Seau in Oakland was can’t miss entertainment
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, May 2nd, 2012 at 11:40 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Some day either there will be a new football stadium in Oakland or the Raiders will leave town, but they’ll never replace the memories that only a few of us in the business had when watching Junior Seau play at the Coliseum.
Say what you will about the crumbling Coliseum, but the best thing about being part of the home team media is that opposing coaches are right next door in what is normally the home radio booth for baseball. A thin sheet of plexiglass is all that separates the visiting coaches from the press.
That was never more advantageous or entertaining than when Seau played against the Raiders in Oakland, which fortunately happened every season. It was one of the first things I thought of today when the news broke that Seau had taken his own life at age 43.
I’ll leave the heartfelt tributes for Seau to guys like Jim Trotter of Sports Illustrated and Mike Silver of Yahoo Sports!, both of whom did him justice Wednesday in a way I never could. Take the time to click on the above links if you want an idea of what Seau was all about.
Everyone has their own way of dealing with bad news, and in this case, I’ll choose to remember the reaction Seau often got from his own coaching staff when facing the Raiders, because it will never fail to make me smile.
Seau played linebacker as if it were a saxophone in a jazz composition. He knew the notes, but was a firm believer in instinct and improvisation.
It drove his coaches nuts on game day. Here they had painstakingly put in a game plan, with every permutation accounted for. Only to have Seau freelance and play from the heart.
“#!%&!$#@ Junior, what the hell are you doing!,” coaches would shriek through into their headsets. “No, no, no no! . . . . Yes, yes, yes, yes!! . . . Great play, Junior!.”
It was incredible theater, listning to his coaches rip Seau for his freelancing and then in the next instant be delighted when he came up with a big play.
We usually got Seau once a year on the conference call the Chargers set up with opposing writers, and he seldom failed to disappoint. He spoke from the heart, his passion for the sport always evident.
I mentioned to Seau the things we’d heard in the press box, how coaches were besides themselves because he’d gone his own way, then ecstatic a moment later when he made a big play.
I thought I’d get at least a chuckle out of it, instead, he seemed a little disgusted.
Seau explained that perhaps the coaches never understood that perhaps his instinct came from extensive study and passion for the game. That maybe he knew what he was doing it was probably time the coaches understood that, although Seau seemed to doubt they ever would.
To be fair, there were games, particularly in the Jon Gruden years, where the Raiders seemed to be able to lure Seau out of position and his impact would be minimal. But those instances were far outweighed by the times Seau was a legitimate force. To my knowledge, there was never a time when anyone associated the Raiders ever looked forward to playing him other than having the opportunity to measure themselves against an all-time great.
There were no mixed emotions in the visiting press box, where the Seau dynamic was as good as it gets.
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May 2nd, 2012 at 11:42 pm
Number one.
May 2nd, 2012 at 11:42 pm
Sad to think the human emotion and psyche is so fragile.
May 2nd, 2012 at 11:50 pm
I never heard too many people say anything bad about Junior Seau during his life. It’s a shame to hear people say bad things about him after his death. Very sad for any person to feel that their best option is to end their own life. The old saying goes “never judge a man until you have walked a mile in his shoes”. Perhaps it should be simplified to just “never judge a man”.
May 2nd, 2012 at 11:51 pm
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May 2nd, 2012 at 11:58 pm
Amy in Charge……
In charge of what; studipity ? You are male or dyke? We’ll either clip ya or snip ya, hopefully eliminate your dna from the pool.
After that we’ll stick a banana between your teeth and let you swing from a tree…..monkey that you are…..while you drip from the private parts.
May 2nd, 2012 at 11:59 pm
Go on now ……to the Elephant Bar…..since an elephant is about all you get…..and I have serious doubts about that.
May 3rd, 2012 at 12:03 am
Whats even sadder than that is the people saying they are glad he killed him self.Just classless people and they are the ones who make this world bad.Thats why kids are so disrespectful these days cause people like that teach it to their kids.
May 3rd, 2012 at 12:59 am
5, imo, youre a jackarse, wtf are you talkin about? Get some help!
May 3rd, 2012 at 1:14 am
Woman gets 2 life terms for raping infant daughter along with former CSU East Bay professor:WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE.THESE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO SHOULD BE KILLING THEIR SELVES.
May 3rd, 2012 at 1:37 am
JFB, youre speaking my language now with Pryor. Showing your intelligence. Nice to see someone’s stance change a lil bit in light of some evidence. Nice work.
May 3rd, 2012 at 3:31 am
Brusci mentioned that the Patriots coaching staff had asked him to talk to seau, because he was arriving at the facilities 4-5 in the morning, which meant they had to come there even earlier. But they didnt dare talk to him, because, it would look crazy that a coach would ask less of a player than he is doing…
some should have made him a coach, since he love the game so much
May 3rd, 2012 at 3:33 am
I’ll just post this here, in case some here hadn’t read it.. its truly a great story
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Saints’ Eric Olsen offers a great Junior Seau memory
Posted by Michael David Smith on May 2, 2012, 6:36 PM EDT
Scores of NFL players have come forward in the hours since Junior Seau died to share their memories of playing with or against Seau, and those memories serve as a stark reminder that Seau — no matter the personal demons that led him to commit suicide — was one of the most respected and beloved players in football.
But the most moving memory of Seau may have been offered by a player who was never Seau’s teammate, didn’t claim to know him well and didn’t make it to the NFL until Seau had already retired: Saints backup center Eric Olsen.
It’s not clear that Seau even knew who Olsen was, but that’s what makes the memory Olsen shared so special: People who had been around Seau said he had the ability to make everyone he encountered feel better about themselves, and that’s what Seau did for Olsen, who shared a great memory of the time he met Seau when Olsen was an adolescent and Seau was a star.
“Wow this is a tough one,” Olsen wrote on his Twitter account when he heard about Seau’s death. “When I was a frosh in HS Junior Seau worked the Jay Fiedler Football camp and at the end of one of the days he challenged anyone to a 1-on-1. Being one of the ‘big’ kids, I was volunteered by my buddies and went up in front of the whole camp to face this monster of a man. Shaking in my cleats, he gave me a wink before a coach gave the cadence. He let me pancake him. And he sold it too. I can’t even tell you how good I felt at that moment; it changed me forever. The whole camp cheered for me, a chubby kid that didn’t know if he even liked football. From then on I was addicted. All thanks to this 10-time all-pro that felt like making some snot-nosed kid’s day. Doesn’t seem like much but it meant a lot to me. Sorry for the essay just had to share. RIP Junior I’ll never forget what you did for me.”
Those who knew him well, those like Olsen who met him briefly and those who only saw him on TV are joined in grief today for a good man whose life came to a shocking end much too soon.
May 3rd, 2012 at 3:35 am
lol. holy crapola, what did I miss today? This is historical:
Just Fire Baby Says:
May 2nd, 2012 at 12:58 pm
Suicide is for attention-seeking diva’s.
Norco Bob has officially possessed Vegas Raider.
May 3rd, 2012 at 3:39 am
I’ll be honest, Seau’s suicide creeps me out. I never even knew he had problems. I’m genuinely disturbed by it.
May 3rd, 2012 at 3:40 am
So much as to where my mascara is dripping from under my Raider eye patch.
May 3rd, 2012 at 5:20 am
plop
May 3rd, 2012 at 5:34 am
So according to the DA, TP is still very raw. Imagine that, who would have thunk it, I mean, its not like anyone was saying that on this blog.
In addition, he also said that he is impressed with the kids drive to become a legitimate QB. From what I gathered in that interview is that TP is doing what it takes so far to be given more time to develop.
This is very good news. Looks like we got another DHB on our hands. Unreal talent, raw, and a lot of work ethic and enthusiasm to be better.
The great thing about guys that have so much work ethic and so much work to do, is that by the time they get to where they want to be, theyve been working hard for so long that they dont know any other way and they continue along the same path. Almost like an insecurity that never goes away no matter how good they are. Reminds me of Jerry Rice and Rich Gannon. Two guys who never really settled for how good they were, they always worked as if they had a long way to go. I think we may have the same types of guys in TP and DHB.
Im not saying we’re going to end up with Rice & Gannon 2.0, Im just saying that the makings are there at this point.
May 3rd, 2012 at 5:40 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
“Wow this is a tough one,” Olsen wrote on his Twitter account when he heard about Seau’s death. “When I was a frosh in HS Junior Seau worked the Jay Fiedler Football camp and at the end of one of the days he challenged anyone to a 1-on-1. Being one of the ‘big’ kids, I was volunteered by my buddies and went up in front of the whole camp to face this monster of a man. Shaking in my cleats, he gave me a wink before a coach gave the cadence. He let me pancake him. And he sold it too. I can’t even tell you how good I felt at that moment; it changed me forever. The whole camp cheered for me, a chubby kid that didn’t know if he even liked football. From then on I was addicted. All thanks to this 10-time all-pro that felt like making some snot-nosed kid’s day. Doesn’t seem like much but it meant a lot to me. Sorry for the essay just had to share. RIP Junior I’ll never forget what you did for me.”
LMN…thanks for that story!
May 3rd, 2012 at 5:50 am
I find it absolutely sickening that Roger Goodell and the media are using the Seau suicide as a way of further pushing his “player saftey” agenda.
Opportunist mother F’er is what Goodell is. He may not be David Stern at this point, but he just might be the second or third worst commissioner in all of sports.
To completely ignore the psychological effects of athlete retirement in cases like this is irresponsible. Sure, most dont commit suicide, but nearly all of them resort to some sort of vice to numb the pain of stepping away from the game, the fame, the limelight, “the life”.
Post retirement depression is a very real thing. Ive watched many of my friends struggle with it. Ive witnessed many athletes succumb to gambling or drug addictions as a way to cope. Suicide really is no different.
Im not saying that the head trauma wasnt a factor. I clearly think it was. But to name it as the only factor would be short sighted. And for Goodell to jump all over this and use it for his agenda is downright sickening.
I hate that MF’er. I love the fact that he gets boo’d at the draft every year. And the very fact that he sits there and acts like it doesnt matter what we think of him just goes to show just what a pompus pile of crap he is. He is cut of the same cloth of the bastards at Goldman Sachs and Washington DC that are crapping all over this world in the name of profit and with no regard for integrity or decency.
F U Goodell!
May 3rd, 2012 at 5:53 am
Shaun Herock, welcome to Oakland !!
May 3rd, 2012 at 5:55 am
@Riff
Goodell is a good dude, better than most.
he brought discipline and player safety (teamed with the NFLPA) to the NFL, which had been sorely lacking from previous years
shut your trap. you don’t know the guy personally
May 3rd, 2012 at 5:58 am
Allen has been steadfast in committing to a 4-3 or a 3-4 as a base, saying only the Raiders would be “multiple’ in scheme.
Tommy Kelly will be the nose tackle should Oakland employ a 3-4 defense.
Kelly has played end and tackle with the Raiders, with the general consensus being he is best suited to the three-technique _ same as Richard Seymour.
Over the past two years, with neither Seymour nor Kelly being the prototypical run-stuffing tackle, the Raiders have suffered against the run.
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Puke !!
May 3rd, 2012 at 5:58 am
Before you rip on Goodell, he has a point. Not disagreeing that steroids is a part of the issue and definitely the psychological effects vs just the physical effects of steroids. But there is another effect from all the trauma players go through playing football. The brain isn’t designed to take the kind of shots that make it bounce around like it does when a player gets concussed. All the headshots lead to very real condition called CTE. Junior probably had some serious CTE as well as psychological trauma from roids. It’s really sad, but he was diseased and needed care but didn’t reach out for it. RIP Junior.
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Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy (CTE) is a progressive degenerative disease of the brain found in athletes (and others) with a history of repetitive brain trauma, including symptomatic concussions as well as asymptomatic subconcussive hits to the head. CTE has been known to affect boxers since the 1920s. However, recent reports have been published of neuropathologically confirmed CTE in retired professional football players and other athletes who have a history of repetitive brain trauma. This trauma triggers progressive degeneration of the brain tissue, including the build-up of an abnormal protein called tau. These changes in the brain can begin months, years, or even decades after the last brain trauma or end of active athletic involvement. The brain degeneration is associated with memory loss, confusion, impaired judgment, impulse control problems, aggression, depression, and, eventually, progressive dementia.
May 3rd, 2012 at 6:07 am
Shaun Herock, welcome to Oakland !!
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Yes! I’m glad to have in S&B. I was very worried Reggie was going to hire his buddy Joey Clinks, but took the guy with a ton of good experience in the organization he was familiar with. Love this hire, and now I’m no longer upset that he hired his bro, Raliegh. For all we know, he could be a Herrera type, fiercely loyal to his twin bro and taco bell-mickey D’s gofer.
May 3rd, 2012 at 6:07 am
And with Junior playing for 20 years, that is probably what happened! I understand all the different views of suicide that popped up in here yesterday, but I have mentioned it here…we don’t know what happened and why! Most of the time, we never do!
May 3rd, 2012 at 6:10 am
Allen said the Raiders signed Matt Leinart because they felt they needed another veteran QB–to help out Carson Palmer, but also to help out Terrelle Pryor, too.
He said Leinart and Pryor (and I guess Rhett Bomar) are all competing for the 2-3 slots behind Palmer.
-Tim Kawakami
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Doesn’t sound like Leinart is going to handed that #2 QB job. He’ll have to compete for it and competition is always a good thing imo
May 3rd, 2012 at 6:11 am
The video of Seau’s mom was heartbreaking. If you are a parent, you totally understand what she’s saying when she grieves. “Take me, not my son God, take me!”
That was very upsetting to watch. Prayers to the Seau family.
May 3rd, 2012 at 6:16 am
POST-26,I AGREE ROCKSTAR.NOT SURE WHY ALL THE MOANING AND GROANING OVER HIS SIGHNING.IF IT WORKS OUT,GOOD IF NOT,MOVE ALONG LEFTY..
May 3rd, 2012 at 6:16 am
I was very worried Reggie was going to hire his buddy Joey Clinks
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@G123
Don’t underestimate Reggie. He could still hire Clinkscales (sp?) and Eliot Wolf for all we know
Reggie isn’t done. Nobody ever said that McKenzie twin & Herock were the replacements for Kingdon & Kebric, did they?
Just that they’ve been added to the scouting dept and those other guys dismissed. More guys will be let go and more guys will be hired. We wont know their job titles until the Raiders issue a public statement to the press
May 3rd, 2012 at 6:16 am
27.guest123 Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 6:11 am
The video of Seau’s mom was heartbreaking. If you are a parent, you totally understand what she’s saying when she grieves. “Take me, not my son God, take me!”
That was very upsetting to watch. Prayers to the Seau family.
Exactly! And only if you are a parent will you truly understand this! Much prayers to the Seau family!
May 3rd, 2012 at 6:17 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 6:10 am
Allen said the Raiders signed Matt Leinart because they felt they needed another veteran QB–to help out Carson Palmer, but also to help out Terrelle Pryor, too.
He said Leinart and Pryor (and I guess Rhett Bomar) are all competing for the 2-3 slots behind Palmer.
-Tim Kawakami
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Doesn’t sound like Leinart is going to handed that #2 QB job. He’ll have to compete for it and competition is always a good thing imo
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@RRS,
Isn’t this what I’ve been saying all along? That having an experienced vet that knows Knapp’s system will do wonders for TP’s development. It’s like a boot camp for him to understand how to train in that environment. Leinart can teach him so many more details than the coaches could ever do. Pryor has someone to mirror himself against and do a self-analysis in real time. The competition is only going to help Pryor accelerate his development and ramp up his schedule to be a starter one day.
It’s a great pickup to get Leinart, especially after all the work he did with CP3 and the receiving crew in the offseason. I don’t personally like this pampered pretty frat boy from the University of Spoiled Children any more than you do, but he’s a means to an end. Go Leinart! Do your thing, help train up Pryor, then get lost!
May 3rd, 2012 at 6:18 am
I gave my two cents about Seau yesterday. done talking about him. done talking about suicide as a topic in general.
sort of a downer, no?
SOOOOOO……………..
Everybody ready to see Tommy Kelly play 3-4 NT ??
May 3rd, 2012 at 6:21 am
LMAO at TK as NT. Allen’s smoking some funny sht.
May 3rd, 2012 at 6:22 am
I don’t personally like this pampered pretty frat boy from the University of Spoiled Children any more than you do, but he’s a means to an end. Go Leinart! Do your thing, help train up Pryor, then get lost!
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LOL!!
G123, you left this blog for probably 3-6 months before. don’t ever do that again. Asset to the AM crew
btw, good morning gents!
Spurs, OKC & Lakers all gonna sweep in RD1?
May 3rd, 2012 at 6:23 am
@G123
Kelly as 3-4 NT is just what McClain needs!!
LOL
May 3rd, 2012 at 6:24 am
Here’s a twitter question I would ask if I was on twitter. Which I’m not.
Who is going to be the last Al Davis player when all is said and done? Kind of like when Howie was the last LA Raider. Who do you think the last AD player will be and why?
May 3rd, 2012 at 6:25 am
I’ve talked to the team a ton about the type of team we’re going to build, being a tough, smart, disciplined football team. – Dennis Allen
I’m already pumped. Ready to read the training camp tweets
May 3rd, 2012 at 6:27 am
Who is going to be the last Al Davis player when all is said and done? Kind of like when Howie was the last LA Raider. Who do you think the last AD player will be and why?
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tough question.
Who ISN’T an Al Davis player would be a much shorter list imo
Reggie couldn’t dump everybody in just one offseason
May 3rd, 2012 at 6:29 am
Well, already Reggie has dumped a number of AD players this offseason. I think he’s going to clean house within 3 years. Last man standing could be Lechler, but I hear that FA punter we signed can boom 70 yarders. Still I’d vote for Lechler, maybe Condo.
May 3rd, 2012 at 6:30 am
That is a good question, Guest! I have this feeling that it’s gonna be DHB because of his work ethic and how he has thanked Mr Davis by giving him a shot in the NFL! Same could probably be said for Pryor, which is still unknown.
Rockstar, I don’t see any sweeps in this round. Maybe Miami, and probably because Amre screwed up and F’d his team the other day!
May 3rd, 2012 at 6:31 am
Here’s what’s struck me about this team a little bit–you kind of have had the picture of the outlaw, renegade Raiders, and that’s not the case.
These are guys that come to work, they’re family men and they come and they do their job. And that’s what you expect.
In that regard, it’s been a little smoother process than maybe I anticipated. -DA
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translation: bad boy imagine is gone. nobody fears the Raiders. we’ve been a doormat the past 9 years. Step 1 is get back to being physical
May 3rd, 2012 at 6:32 am
translation: bad boy imagine is gone. nobody fears the Raiders. we’ve been a doormat the past 9 years. Step 1 is get back to being physical
Oh, but I miss those days! New Era has begun!
May 3rd, 2012 at 6:34 am
I have this feeling that it’s gonna be DHB
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high praise for King Darrius, hwnrdr!!
I would like to say Darren McFadden, but RB’s have a short shelf life in the NFL and he’s already been plagued by injuries
May 3rd, 2012 at 6:36 am
Is Tim K. a Raider hater?
He certainty did not like Al Davis (and vice versa) but the reality is this guy has access to a column in the local News Paper. If you want to get the word out and not have the media angry at you all the time you need to give all the local media some access whether they are fair or not or whether they like you or not. Not access to Jerry and Steve but also to Tim K., Monte and maybe even the one I hate the most Gwyn Knapp.
May 3rd, 2012 at 6:39 am
-Q: You signed Leinart yesterday. Is that mostly about his familiarity with Greg Knapp?
-ALLEN: I think a few things–the quarterback position is such a critical position in the National Football League and you want to make sure that you have quality back-ups.
I think bringing in a guy that has experience, a veteran type of player, two things: No. 1, I think it helps Carson to have that extra set of eyes there, a guy he can communicate with and help him through.
But I also think it helps Terrelle Pryor to have another veteran type of guy in there, a guy that’s come in with a lot of high hopes and expectations and kind of show him the ropes a little bit.
-Q: You probably hear the same things we do–people are fascinated with Pryor. Is the Leinart signing at all an indication that you don’t think Pryor’s a back-up NFL QB?
-ALLEN: Absolutely not. We’re always going to try to make moves to do whatever we feel like is going to make this football team be better. And we’ve brought another quarterback in to compete.
At the end of the day, just like anything else, we’re going to have everybody compete and the best players are going to play and that’s how we’re going to stack the depth chart up.
-Q: What has Pryor shown you in the workouts?
-ALLEN: That he has all kinds of talent. He’s not there from a mental standpoint, from a fundamental standpoint, which is true of 99% of the young quarterbacks that come into this league.
The other thing he’s shown me is, this guy’s a worker. He’s put in relentless hours and effort in preparation. He’s competing.
He’s wants to prove to everybody that he can be a quarterback for us in the National Football League. And we’re going to give him the opportunity to compete, and that’s what it’s all about.
-Q: Is there a chance down the road that you look at another position for Pryor?
-ALLEN: I would never rule anything out. But at this point in time we haven’t considered anything other than quarterback for Terrelle Pryor.
That’s what I want him focusing on–one day at a time, getting better, and trying to become the best quarterback that he can be.
-Q: And Pryor and Leinart are competing for the No. 2 slot?
-ALLEN: Absolutely.
-Q: Leinart doesn’t get the lean as the main back-up due to his experience?
-ALLEN: No, I’m not ready to concede that at all. I think that process will play itself out. I think too many times people try to pin people in and set the depth chart at this time of year.
Until we get a chance to evaluate these players and evaluation takes time, it doesn’t happen over a one mini-camp process, we’re not going to make any decisions on that.
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RRS = money on Pryor take a few days ago.
thoughts AW & Riff ??
May 3rd, 2012 at 6:43 am
@Hwnrdr
Stoudemire said that there’s a “great chance” that he will be available to play in Game 4 against the Heat on Sunday, missing only Game 3, because “I persevere through a lot of injuries. I work hard to recover from injuries.”
On Tuesday, the Knicks officially listed Stoudemire as “doubtful” for Game 4
May 3rd, 2012 at 6:50 am
I’ve got to say … Tim Kawakami asked a lot of questions that I’ve been wanting answers to and Dennis Allen didn’t dance around any topics
I guess the thing with reporters is, you’ve got to ask the right questions!
nice work Tim. Still wish Herrera would have punched you in the face though
May 3rd, 2012 at 6:54 am
47.RaiderRockstar Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 6:50 am
I’ve got to say … Tim Kawakami asked a lot of questions that I’ve been wanting answers to and Dennis Allen didn’t dance around any topics
I guess the thing with reporters is, you’ve got to ask the right questions!
nice work Tim. Still wish Herrera would have punched you in the face though
LOL
May 3rd, 2012 at 6:54 am
Ravens linebacker Terrell Suggs has torn an Achilles tendon.
Vince Young “looked good” at Bills tryout, no deal yet
May 3rd, 2012 at 6:56 am
I think Goodell has to make a public spectacle of the Seau thing, because he is the front man for the league, which is getting sued by all these former players.
If there were no lawsuit, none of these Saints players would be suspended (I still think the staff would have faced penalty just not as severe), and nobody would be using this tragedy to leverage their position in the court of public opinion, but that’s what happens when you slap billion dollar lawsuits around.
May 3rd, 2012 at 6:57 am
LOL @ the DT bashers.
Amazing how so many football professionals say that Kelly and Seymour are THE strength of our defense yet some of the semi’s just REFUSE to accept it.
Same BS you were talking about MONEY Warren, who the Patriots have LOVED to have since we let him go.
SMH
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:01 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 6:54 am
Ravens linebacker Terrell Suggs has torn an Achilles tendon.
Vince Young “looked good” at Bills tryout, no deal yet
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RRS:
Ouch- Suggs likely out for the year. Playing basketball no less.
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:03 am
Amazing how so many football professionals say that Kelly and Seymour are THE strength of our defense yet some of the semi’s just REFUSE to accept it.
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@Jhill
so who is the weak link on defense then?
you claimed it was the DE’s and OLB’s last couple of years. That still the issue?
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:06 am
GOOD MORNING NATION !!
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:06 am
Can anyone provide a DA interview where doesn’t say, “at the end of the day”?
puke! Sick and tired of that cliche he hangs his hat on as an excuse for a pregnant pause.
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:07 am
Chargers drafted someone they knew was going to be out for the season, and still took him in the 5th round. No way Reggie does something like that.
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:11 am
Ouch- Suggs likely out for the year
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@Cake
yup – major blow to the Ravens defense. They also lost Jarrett Johnson in free agency. Reports are Paul Kruger (Bergstrom’s cousin) needs to get better versus the run
hopefully they drafted well. Is Courtney Upshaw a Day 1 starter ??
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:17 am
I hate the “at the end of the day” filler as well.
What happens at the beginning of the day?
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:21 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:11 am
Ouch- Suggs likely out for the year
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@Cake
yup – major blow to the Ravens defense. They also lost Jarrett Johnson in free agency. Reports are Paul Kruger (Bergstrom’s cousin) needs to get better versus the run
hopefully they drafted well. Is Courtney Upshaw a Day 1 starter ??
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RRS:
Looks like it. Funny Upshaw has a rap sheet somewhat like a certain Raider MLB- oh wait- he also went to Alabama
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:21 am
Chargers drafted someone they knew was going to be out for the season, and still took him in the 5th round. No way Reggie does something like that.
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@G123
I would have no problem with this. Al Davis basically did the same thing with Michael Bush.
Good teams plan for the future. Unfortunately, that is a luxury we couldn’t afford this draft. Reggie didn’t have many picks. None in the Top 90
Maybe next year when Reggie has more picks and more cash to spend in free agency. Always a risk taking a player who hasn’t played football in a year though
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:26 am
Agree that it’s not a bad move if you have a boatload of picks. Reggie can’t even afford to do that next year with 2 picks already sold off. We won’t see him truly flex his draft muscles until 2014.
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:27 am
Agree with J Hill, except for Money Warren.
He sucked with us, and his effort was very spotty. The Pats are using him properly, much more limited reps, and get the type of effort you should get for the type of money people have paid that slug.
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:34 am
Is it just me, or do these NBA playoffs like a lot of sizzle so far?
I mean the games have been OK, some close games especially in the West, but man, you couldn’t pay him $50 a hour to watch a Pacers-Magic game.
I would rather watch May baseball.
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:38 am
*lack sizzle*
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:38 am
The playoffs already begun in roundball? I failed to notice. Agreed that baseball in any month is still better than basketball. And Raider football is 1000X better than baseball.
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:39 am
you couldn’t pay him $50 a hour to watch a Pacers-Magic game.
I know right?
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:39 am
Reggie can’t even afford to do that next year with 2 picks already sold off. We won’t see him truly flex his draft muscles until 2014.
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@G123
It’ll be interesting to see what happens next offseason. Reggie had just enough flexibility to get rid of a few starters from last year’s team. A lot of cheap 1-year deals this offseason for vets from other teams as well. I suspect a few more starters whose contracts are up will not be re-signed as well as a few more “surprise” cuts from the Al Davis regime. It’ll be a gradual purge. Also, Reggie & Dennis may be giving a few guys a legitimate shot to redeem themselves with new coaches & scheme. If they fail to impress, will be shown the door. Would not be surprised to see Reggie trade a few picks (or players) in next year’s draft to build up the 2014 one for a major SPLASH
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:40 am
so who is the weak link on defense then?
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Hate to say it, but Al Davis.
The defensive philosophy was outdated, and than hiring hacks like Chuck B just further dug us a hole.
Outside of that, our OLB’s have been hot garbage for years. How many different OLB’s have we had start games in the last 4-5 years?
I would think it might be over a dozen.
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:41 am
63. The nba needs contraction. Reduce the # of teams by 4 and the league would be much stronger.. The W.s, toronto, cleav, sac and washington come to mind..
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:41 am
you couldn’t pay me $50 a hour to watch a Pacers-Magic game.
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major snoozefest!
Also, watching the Lakers play the Nuggets is like watching them play the W’s [no challenge]
Can’t wait until RD 1 is over
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:41 am
RR,
WE WERE right about TP. Don’t forget your VP.
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:42 am
At least the Dubs draw and are profitable.
But yeah, Toronto and Sac should be contracted.
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:43 am
you’re the man, O!
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:43 am
Vegas,
I agree with you about Al hiring bad DCs the last decade, but his scheme/ plan works. Look at the Giants.
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:43 am
Also, watching the Lakers play the Nuggets is like watching them play the W’s [no challenge]
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That’s been kind of the thing.
The games are somewhat close, but yet not really close at all, if that makes sense.
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:45 am
RR,
We told people, but they didn’t listen.
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:45 am
@RRS, not to mention all the dead money that needs to come off the books by 2014. Eventually Reggie will have his guys and all former loyalty will go out the window unless you can prove you belong. There’s going to be some guys who think all is well and expect to make the team, and they are going to be shocked and in awe. “This can’t happen to ME? Mr. Davis loved me. Where’s the loyalty?!?”
I think Reggie cleans house quickly and shows little or no lattitude to the scholarships.
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:46 am
The Lakers pretty much played a bad game Tuesday Night, with only Kobe and Bynum playing well…but Denver never had the lead!
With that said, I expect Denver to come out on fire in Colorado tomorrow night! To anser your question, Rockstar, if Denver fails to get a win tomorrow, The Lakers just may sweep into the second round!
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:46 am
The Giants have had the same DC and HC for years, and have invested heavily in their D-line and secondary.
Yes it is a 4 man rush mostly just like Al, but they sprinkly in a lot of zone on the back line of the D.
It works when you have JPP, Kaiwanuka(sic) and Tuck and Osi, all either 1st, 2nd or 3rd rounders doing it.
We trot out Jarvis Moss, a washed up Seymour, convert Trevor Scott from TE and think it will work.
It doesn’t.
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:46 am
4. Teams need to go.. the W’s are a terrible mess. Cant make an omlet without breaking some eggs.. And baseball is soo boring.. Cant watch till the end. they need contraction too.
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:47 am
And in my honest opinion, that may be a bad thing!
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:47 am
Wouldn’t the Lakers want to lose a game or two, and “waste” Metta’s suspension in the first round?
If they go up 3-0, I would sit Kobe for a night and who cares if they lose.
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:48 am
How many different OLB’s have we had start games in the last 4-5 years?
I would think it might be over a dozen.
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@JFB
Let’s think here. Just off the top of my head:
Aaron Curry
Kam Wimbley
Quinton Groves
Trevor Scott
Ricky Brown
Sam Williams
Robert Thomas
Jon Alston
Thomas Howard
Bruce Davis II & Isaiah Ekejiuba were just ST guys. Hartwell, Kacyvenski, Norris & Sulak never made the 53.
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:49 am
The NBA needs a better commissioner.
Btw RR, I have to agree with Riff on that one. Goodell is an evil monkey, and I think he is focuses too much on money/ profits. Great businessman but bad commissioner.
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:50 am
This is going to be a great baseball season, as was last year.
If your not a baseball fan, I can understand not being interested, but if you are a hardcore fan (like me) the game is REALLY getting better, with better athletes and lots of great young players.
These might be the best 4-5 years for baseball in a long time. No Yankee’s-Sox ad naseum, young stars everywhere, athletes like never before.
Exciting stuff. Bryce Harper is most-see TV right now.
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:50 am
81. Sweeps are good. More rest, and more preperation time..
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:51 am
Jezus I can’t type this morning.
Good thing I don’t type for a living!!!
Raider On fellers
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:52 am
Vegas,
Moss and Seymour were 1st round picks, but I understand your point. The Giants invested more picks in their DL, and they were more flexible in the secondary.
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:53 am
Wont the Lakers play memphis in the 2nd rd?. They dont need metta for them.
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:53 am
85. I would say the same thing about the nba.
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:54 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 5:55 am
@Riff
Goodell is a good dude, better than most.
he brought discipline and player safety (teamed with the NFLPA) to the NFL, which had been sorely lacking from previous years
shut your trap. you don’t know the guy personall
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Goodell is a lying, worthless POS. Not a football guy, just a suit, who’s in it only for the money. He’d fire all of the players and field teams of robots if he could make money off it. You seem to forget that smarmy bastard talking out of both sides of his mouth during the lockout. I haven’t.
He got boos every time he took the stage at the draft because most of us see him for what he is.
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:57 am
I dont like goodel or stern. Greedy.. Taking our games global is dumb..
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:00 am
The Giants have had the same DC and HC for years
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@JFB
NY Giants DC’s
Perry Fewell 2010-Present
Bill Sheridan 2009
Steve Spagnuolo 2007-2008
Tim Lewis 2004-2006
Johnnie Lynn 2002-2003
Tom Coughlin has been the HC since 2004
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:02 am
Terrell Suggs done for the season!!
Good Morning Raider Nation!!
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:04 am
oldschoolraider & Raider O
I don’t expect you to agree with me on Goodell, Seau or anything really. I think Goodell brings accountability and discipline to the NFL, which is needed. I remember what happened during the lockout and I sided with Roger then too!
agree to disagree. next topic!
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:06 am
Lastnite sombody was on cheering for seau’s suicde..
Stay classy nation.
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:06 am
With Suggs out for the season, it’ll be interesting to see how the Ravens align now. I’d bet on Paul Kruger getting bulk of Rover snaps. It could be a big chance for Sergio Kindle, too. Courtney Upshaw is a talented player, but he’s much closer to Jarrett Johnson than Terrell Suggs.
Ravens personnel looks more favorable to 3-4 looks than 4-3. Suggs is what made that team multiple. Huge loss. They may lean more to a 4-3 team with Suggs loss.
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:07 am
82.Just Fire Baby Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:47 am
Wouldn’t the Lakers want to lose a game or two, and “waste” Metta’s suspension in the first round?
If they go up 3-0, I would sit Kobe for a night and who cares if they lose.
Yeah, at least a game 5…
No, I think they play the winner of the OKC/Dallas right?
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:07 am
Nice article on Coach Allen by Tim Kawakami.
I really think we have turned the corner.
I don’t think we will be committing a bunch of stupid penalties next year.
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:09 am
Oh your right.. Okc
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:09 am
“We’re not looking for a team full of choir boys,” Allen said. ”
What he said and what their doing are two different things!
At first I didn’t know what to make of the Kaufman hire…but know it’s beginning to make sense.
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:10 am
RR,
We agree on TP. lol
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:10 am
They could also conceivably run w/ Pernell McPhee LDE and Kruger RDE, use Upshaw as situational player. McClain/Lewis/Ellerbee at backer. That front would limit Sergio Kindle exposure, give Upshaw time to grow and rely heavily on Lewis as the clear centerpiece of the defense.
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:12 am
nice, G123
forgot about McClain & Kindle in Baltimore!!
they’ll be fine as long as Flacco gets his mind right. He’s not a Top 10 QB in football. He still has a long ways to go & a lot to prove imo
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:14 am
Trade Rolando to the Ravens for a 2nd RD pick in next years Draft?
Makes sense with Suggs done for the season!
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:14 am
Id still rather sweep denver. Injuries can come from nowhere. Kobes and old man. He needs his beauty sleep.. Okc will be rested.
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:16 am
I like faith, I think it’s good for people, but I don’t want a team full of choir boys. I miss AL.
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:17 am
Thats interesting, but who plays mlb?
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:18 am
105.
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:22 am
I’d like to see Burris but we also have Goethel and Stupar!
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:22 am
RRS,
I don’t see a weak link this year. From chess players calling the D, to 3 solid LBs plus backups, 2 healthy solid safeties, to the DVDs Chekwa’s.
Im excited about the defense as a whole for the first time in a while.
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:22 am
RRS,
How you going to claim “money” on your TP assessment? DA said exactly what me and AW have been saying. He doesnt have it mentally yet but he’s working hard.
TP isnt even close. But he’s showing the work ethic that will encourage DA to keep him around and further develop him.
He wont be beating out Leinart for the #2 spot. Not a chance. But that is ok IMO. It’s the other people that say that if he cant win the #2 spot then he is junk. Ive never said that about TP. My expectations of the kid are high and growing by the day, but Im still not expecting anything significant out of him for another 2 years.
As for shutting my mouth about Goodell, hell no! That guy lies through his teeth. Im sick and tired of his politician rhetoric. The way he handled the lockout last year was crap. He sat there and tried to say that fans want a longer season even though in every poll done it was overwhelmingly the fans in support of the players. That hypocrite wants to claim player safety yet he wants to add two more games to the schedule.
I’ll say whatever I want about that clown. He’s fraud and cannot be trusted. His interests are not at all for the integrity of the game. His interests are soley the owners pocket books. Which is fine, that is his job. I just dont appreciate being lied too as if Im stupid. Very few of his decisions are consistent with that of his supposed ideals.
New England got caught CHEATING and they got off easy compared to the Saints.
There is a lot more to this New Orleans story than is being told. Sean Payton and his staff have made a lot of enemies over the years with their style of play and arrogance and now the other owners and the league are getting retribution.
Those in the know, know that the Saints were on the chopping block long before the bounty scandal ever came out. Trust me on that, if the league wants to dish dirt on you , they can and will. It could happen to any team because the Saints werent the only ones doing bounties. But the Saints got shown the hammer for other transgressions that IMO, were just sour grapes by other GMs/coaches/owners.
Dont ever believe what Goodell is saying. He has an agenda just like any other political figurehead.
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:23 am
im sticking with slow.lol
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:24 am
Re: Last Al Davis Raider
Given that last year’s draft was Al’s last, I’m going to bet on Denarius Moore as the last Al Davis Raider.
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:25 am
Raider O,
Dont stress on the “faith” thing. Usually those who are constantly openly preaching their faith are some of the dirtiest mf’ers behind closed doors.
Howie Long was one of those “choir boys” you speak of and he had no problem being a true Raider.
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:25 am
We don’t need Artest to spank OKC.
Durant only shhots jumpers. They have no post game. Ebanks is long and athletic enough to contest Durant jumpers.
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:26 am
Torn achilles are terrible injuries to come back from. Suggs may be a career ender…
But there are 3 guys who have successfully come back:
1)Julian Peterson, 2)Derrick Burgess and 3)Greg Ellis…
Only Ellis at 31 was ever effective again.
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:28 am
To me it sounded like DA took TP to the chalkboard and found out he needs a full time mentor to go with the coaches.. He’s not ready mentally. Or fundamentally.. But the skis the limit.. Invest in our futur by coaching him up.. When he’s ready, he’s ready..
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:30 am
Suggs texted Ravens beat writer that doctor at site felt tendon may only be partially torn. Go-to NFL foot and ankle specialist Dr. Robert Anderson will examine him and make recommendations soon. Suggs is pinning his hopes for a 6 month rehab and return on the partial tear diagnosis.
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:31 am
I don’t want a team full of choir boys.
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Raider O,
Reggie drafted a bunch of players that work hard, love football, produce on the field and are well behaved off the field and in the locker room. I don’t see the issue.
you want more guys with character flaws, like McClain & Underwood?
Tommy Kelly got a DUI a few years back. Khalif Barnes got a speeding ticket and starting shouting “white devil” at the cops in J-Ville his 2nd year in the league.
Cedric Benson wants to be a Raider!!
Seymour is a “choir boy” Bible thumper in his personal life, but one of the league’s dirtiest players on Sundays … plus you’re well aware of Pryor’s past
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:31 am
JFB, oh, so MONEY was being used wrong, eh?
LOL!
To bad we didn’t have chess players caling the D when he was here.
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:31 am
118… exactly.
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:32 am
LDE: Houston, Crawford
DT: Seymour, Bryant
DT: TK, Hamilton
RDE: Shaughnessy, Tollefson , Brodine
SLB: Curry/ Burris
MLB: McClain, Stupar
WLB: Wheeler/ Burris, Goethel
CB: Bartell, Spencer
CB: Chekwa/DVD, ?
SS: Branch, MM
FS: Huff, Gio
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:33 am
Hot Shot Says:
May 2nd, 2012 at 11:16 pm
Wonder if the Raiders will pull out big Wang to play on the line at all.
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3rd string Jumbo TE?
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:34 am
Actually, to be honest, Ive been in so many debates with so many people this past week about Pryor, I dont really remember who’s stance is what on this issue.
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:35 am
Raider O,
Shouldnt Curry stay at Weak side LB? Isnt that where he played well last year?
and if we go 3-4, shouldnt it be Curry and Mclain in the middle with Burris and Wheeler on the outside?
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:38 am
RR,
I like Seymour. I want Nasty players. Who cares what you do off the field, if you play well on the field. Aaaahhhh….. I forgot, R Goodell cares! I hate that evil monkey.
It has nothing to do with faith, but more about the image of the RAIDERS. We are the bad boys of the NFL.
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:38 am
TP isnt even close.
He wont be beating out Leinart for the #2 spot. Not a chance.
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@Riff
your comments contradict those of Dennis Allen
Allen basically states Pryor is a rookie this year. Puts him on the same page as every other rookie QB. That means Luck, RG3 & Tannehill imo
Pretty sure you compared him to a college freshman. Said he might be ready for a backup role in yr #4. Allen says he’s competing for the #2 gig next week
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:39 am
It has nothing to do with faith, but more about the image of the RAIDERS. We are the bad boys of the NFL.
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not anymore according to Dennis Allen. Did you read his latest Q&A with Kawakami?
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:42 am
My take on Pryor is I hope he pans out. Right now, he’s about as green as Kermit’s dick, and I do not want to see him starting any games in the next couple of years.
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:43 am
Riff,
I used a 4-3 base defense. In 3-4, Curry or Wheeler can play ILB, and Wheeler can rush the passer so he can play Outside too. Don’t forget about Shaughnessy. I think he can play OLB too.
Curry was our WLB last season, but I think he is a better fit as a 2 down LB. he can play the run well, but he is a liability in coverage. I like him better as 2 down SLB.
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:43 am
Raider O Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:38 am
RR,
I like Seymour. I want Nasty players. Who cares what you do off the field, if you play well on the field. Aaaahhhh….. I forgot, R Goodell cares! I hate that evil monkey.
It has nothing to do with faith, but more about the image of the RAIDERS. We are the bad boys of the NFL.
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Uh, huh. I would say the Saints are the bad boys of the NFL by a long shot. Who feared the Raiders over the past ten years? Nobody. In fact, the team was becoming a joke, known for it’s eventual self-destruction in games than anything else.
Bring on the new regime.
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:44 am
He’s nowhere near as developed as Luck is.
Granted, I dont expect most college QB’s to be as developed as Luck, but Pryor isnt close to that level.
Currently I put him at a college sophmore (he’s got half a year under his belt with Oakland, when I said freshman I meant that as he came to us from college, he’s obviously been working hard). And considering DA’s comments, I think I may only be off by a year or so but that is largely due to the hard work TP seems to have put in to make up ground. Hard work that I did account for in my stance.
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:45 am
Raider O Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:16 am
I like faith, I think it’s good for people, but I don’t want a team full of choir boys. I miss AL.
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if we get a team full of choir boy, do you think they
will sing the national anthem before games ??
or will they still farm that job out ??
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:45 am
RR,
I did, and that why I posted # 107.
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:45 am
127. Id rather be bad boys on the field.. I dont care what faith they have.. Faith fuels most wars anyway..
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:46 am
Correction. Religion fuels most wars..
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:46 am
I dont see how DA contradicts my stance. He re-inforced it IMO. The kid is raw, but he’s working hard.
If he’s publicly saying that TP is competing for the #2 spot, I think that is only to encourage the kid. They see his work ethic and they like it.
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:47 am
Riff,
I missed post 115. I guess you and RR have a point.
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:47 am
He’s nowhere near as developed as Luck is.
Granted, I dont expect most college QB’s to be as developed as Luck, but Pryor isnt close to that level.
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@Riff
Allen said Pryor was with the 99% of QB’s coming into the league. I guess you’re putting Luck in that 1% ??
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:49 am
ODB,
Make’em sing brother. LOL
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:50 am
Gotcha Raider O.
I simply thought we’d be putting him at ILB if we went that route because he could blitz from there and would have the least amount of coverage duties. The plays would always be in front of him even when he was backing up in a zone style coverage.
I think our outside guys need to be more disciplined than Curry. And if he is the SLB in a 4-3, that means he is responsible for the TE on those 2 downs you speak of. In a passing league where throwing the ball is highly likely on 1st or 2nd down, I dont trust Curry to cover the TE.
I wish we would continue to develop MM34 as a outside LB hybrid that is specifically there to cover the TE in a 3-4 defense. It’s what he does best and I think it really suites his talents.
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:54 am
If he’s publicly saying that TP is competing for the #2 spot, I think that is only to encourage the kid
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@Riff
Reggie & Dennis have stated earlier this offseason that our core values are honesty, discipline, accountability & integrity.
I don’t buy that the coaching staff is just feeding him a line to make him work harder. If they say he’s competing for #2 – that’s exactly what he’s doing. You can’t twist this without calling Allen a liar !!
-Q: You probably hear the same things we do–people are fascinated with Pryor. Is the Leinart signing at all an indication that you don’t think Pryor’s a back-up NFL QB?
-ALLEN: Absolutely not
-Q: And Pryor and Leinart are competing for the No. 2 slot?
-ALLEN: Absolutely.
-Q: Leinart doesn’t get the lean as the main back-up due to his experience?
-ALLEN: No, I’m not ready to concede that at all.
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:55 am
I wish we would continue to develop MM34 as a outside LB hybrid
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LOL!!
Jhill & JFB need to put you thru a film study session
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:57 am
Riff,
That’s the problem with Curry. No one trusts him to cover TEs or any other player. if he plays SLB then he needs help from the SS covering TEs, which may cause problems to the LCB unless he is a beast. I don’t think Bartell is that guy.
I agree with you 100%. I think the best position for Curry is inside in 3-4. I also like MM a lot, and I think him and Huff do well when covering TEs.
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:58 am
The only thing “outside” MM34 needs to be is “outside” the facility.
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:00 am
RRS,
Luck is a very rare case. He’s one of those few guys that you can start right away and let him get experience and get the gameday learning curve over with now. Much like Manning, Elway, or Marino before him. Nothing was to gain by putting those guys on the bench. But those are really rare circumstances.
Marinovich was ready for live fire too but we know how that turned out. (but that’s a rare circumstance in its own right also)
Pryor is not ready for live fire yet.
I think most QB’s coming out of college come from the Aaron Rogers mold. Roger’s was not ready to start or be the backup straight out of college but he was dang close to being a #2. We all see how well that development benefited Rogers before throwing him to the wolves.
Pryor is not as polished as Rogers was coming out. I think that is the 99% DA is talking about. And I think he only said that stuff to encourage TP. The kid is working his butt off apparantly. I think he will get there. I just think he is going to need more time than you do.
But as you can read from my stances on most college QB’s, I think they ALL need more time than they are given.
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:02 am
Not calling Allen a liar. Im calling him a “coach”.
Sometimes you tell a player he’s crap to motivate him. Sometimes you tell him he’s better than he is to encourage him.
They obviously like what theyve seen out of him. Remember, they both scouted him coming out of college. They still know what they thought of him then, and they see the progress he’s made up to this point. They are encouraged so they are stoking that fire that TP has burning inside him. Thats all.
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:02 am
I think he only said that stuff to encourage TP
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AGAIN, see post #143, Riff
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:03 am
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Good story, classy move!
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:07 am
?? didnt we draft a dead guy back in the late 90s ??
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:07 am
RRS,
So if you think Pryor is so ready. Where do you think he got a good football education in being a QB?
He didnt get it at OSU.
He didnt just make up for lost time in the last 9 months. There is no way to cram 3-4 years of college coaching into that timeframe.
Where do you think he just magically became a NFL ready QB at? Or did he go to OSU already knowing how to play the position.
Its no secret his mechanics need work and that OSU did not run an offense that at all prepared him for the NFL. What makes you think he fixed all that stuff in just the short time he’s been with us?
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:07 am
I really like TP, but I don’t want him thrown into the wolves too soon. It could destroy his confidence and development. Even if he’s chomping at the bit to prove himself as a NFL QB, he needs to be brought along slowly. Once the lightswitch goes off, he’ll use all the lessons learned and QB 101 classes to exhibit his superior athletisism. I think a lot of fans are impatient and want to see that happen now or soon. But good things come to those who wait.
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:07 am
Not calling Allen a liar. Im calling him a “coach”.
Sometimes you tell a player he’s crap to motivate him. Sometimes you tell him he’s better than he is to encourage him.
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Lamonte Winston & Napolean Kaufman are here to offer encouragement.
Reggie & Dennis are TP’s bosses. They don’t need to play that role. If they say he’s in the mix for #2QB , he is.
Who are you, to say otherwise?
He hasn’t played in a game since January of 2011. You don’t know what he looks like in May 2012. We won’t know until Preseason
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:10 am
R8ER MIKE Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:07 am
?? didnt we draft a dead guy back in the late 90s ??
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I thought that was the 1st overall selection of the 2007 draft?
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:12 am
lol Hairy.. i didnt mean brain dead.. i mean like dead, daed .
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:14 am
Who am I to say otherwise? Someone that has been paid to play. Someone that has coached and worked closely with pro athletes.
It’s not hard to see when a coach is “coaching a guy up”
Your post 154 is laughable. Youre just being stubborn. I dont see what all these lofty expectations you have on the kid are going to accomplish. CP is our guy for the next 4-5 years. Until then, nothing is gained by rushing TP.
And DA is in fact TP’s coach. If you want to argue semantics about the definition of coach vs boss I’ll let you do that on your own because that is when this debate has lost all its worth and just become dribble.
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:15 am
@Riff #152
Terrelle Pryor isn’t Troy Smith, Craig Krenzel, Joe Germaine, Bobby Hoying or Kent Graham …
get off his back already!!
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:16 am
We drafted that dude in the second round from Wazzou State I believe, that had a seizure and died.
Another brilliant move from our training/health staff.
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:18 am
?? Where the he11 is Wazzou State ??
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:21 am
R8ER MIKE Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:07 am
?? didnt we draft a dead guy back in the late 90s ??
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ROFLMAO
I don’t think he was dead when we drafted him.
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:21 am
#158,
What gives you any reason to believe he’s any different from those guys?
In fact, I liked Troy Smith. He didnt have mechanical issues. Solid QB that I thought should have been given more of an NFL chance. Stupid coaches got too caught up on his height and could never see the simple fact that the guy could play.
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:21 am
Good morning/afternoon peoples!
I’ve already moved on from this Seau talk. Who’s come something interesting to cover besides a guy who passed yesterday and got many people attention?
Kelly as the NT?
Thoughts?
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:21 am
CP is our guy for the next 4-5 years. Until then, nothing is gained by rushing TP
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he’s not being “rushed” into a starting role. he’s competing for the #2 QB job.
Palmer is a good player, but he turns 33 this year and has already retired once. I don’t see him playing until 38, even if he’s healthy enough. 2015 & 2016 are “voidable” contract years by the way
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:22 am
Long Live ODB!!!!
Still LMAO bro.
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:23 am
On NFLN draft show, I thought it was a joke, but they reported that teams verify the pick is breathing before turning the pick in. Now I see it wasn’t a joke.
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:23 am
What gives you any reason to believe he’s any different from those guys?
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@Riff
go ahead and compare all the LSU QB’s to JaWalrus, while you’re at it!!
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:23 am
Not this Troy Smith thing again!!!!!!
Pretty soon, we are going to start up the falsity again that he was going to start for the Ravens before he got tonsilitis in the preseason.
He has been waived by multiple teams, and he is by all accounts a really good dude.
If he weren’t a stand-up guy, he would have been out of the league years ago.
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:24 am
He didnt get it at OSU.
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Riff,
Excuse you! It is THE OSU. lol
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:27 am
Good morning DMAC.
Did you watch Seau’s mother on NFLN?
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:28 am
lol lol lol ..
O, DMAC, whats happin my GREEN PARTY brothers ??
HAPPY THIRSTY THURSDAY !!!!
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:29 am
Washington State
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# R8ER MIKE Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:18 am
?? Where the he11 is Wazzou State ??
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:29 am
One thing is certain, when Pryor is playing the 2nd half of these preseason games, I will be glued to the TV more than any other 2nd halves of preseason games I can remember.
First game is on MNF, so there will be a TON of TP talk that night.
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:29 am
Raider O Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:27 am
Good morning DMAC.
Did you watch Seau’s mother on NFLN?
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What up O Dog
No I did not. Had too much emotions in here yesterday.
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:30 am
R8ER MIKE Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:28 am
lol lol lol ..
O, DMAC, whats happin my GREEN PARTY brothers ??
HAPPY THIRSTY THURSDAY !!!!
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What up Mike and our fellow members of the Green Team!
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:31 am
Sorry Raider O. Im not an anti OSU guy or anything. I just didnt see any progress in the kids development in his time there. Which sucks. But he’s making up for it now so its all good.
RRS,
Who knows how long CP will last. Im inclined to believe that his time away will add time to his knees/shoulder/arm. If we are in contention, he’ll be having fun and wont want to walk away from the game.
I cant see TP being ready by 2016 and us voiding CP’s deal. But then again, TP is an impatient kid and if he thinks he’s ready by then, he might threaten to walk and we’d be forced to choose him over CP after all the years of developing him if indeed, he continues on his trajectory.
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:31 am
thanks Kellygreen.
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:31 am
he’s not being “rushed” into a starting role. he’s competing for the #2 QB job.
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Bingo
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:33 am
I would say he should be “rushed” into the #2 spot though.
I would like someone to find a solid QB that spent his first two years as the #3 QB in the NFL.
I am sure there may be one or two, but I would venture to guess that 97% of QB’s who spend their first 2 years as a #3, end up selling life insurance before they turn 30.
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:35 am
I think TP gets way too much love on these boards. He’s a backup forchrisakes! I don’t remember any previous offseason where the entrenched backup got so much talk.
Why not talk up CP3 for a change? This guy is going to be an absolute beast next year with the new weapons, O-line additions, and first year playing with DMAC. MUP Raider is CP3.
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:35 am
If he’s ready for the #2, he’s ready to start.
He’s not ready to start.
Leinart can start games. TP cannot.
When TP is #3 on the depth chart come the beginning of the season, I want my credit given where it is due.
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:36 am
Mike,
My mother moved back with us yesterday after she lost her job. I’m in a house with 3 females. Mother, Wife, and daughter. I’m thinking about suicide.
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:36 am
TP’s contract expires in 2014, and I would imagine the Raiders would like to know what they have going into his contract year.
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:36 am
Let’s go A’s! Keep it going!
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:36 am
JFB,
how about kurt warner?
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:37 am
DMAC,
She was crying telling the fans how much she appreciates their love and support. It was sad.
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:38 am
I don’t like Leinart as the #2 for his durability issues just as much as his suckiness.
That was my issue with Bruce, who I thought was the perfect backup. But you can’t end up needing your #2 to start 3 games while your starter gets healthy, and than the backup gets hurt almost immediately (like Leinart last year).
You just wasted all that time getting the backup up to speed, and if he gets hurt, than you are down to your #3, you have to make roster moves you may not have wanted to, and it just snowballs.
Leinart HAS to be edged out by TP, if not by the beginning of the season, AT LEAST coming out of the bye week.
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:40 am
Riff,
You don’t have to apologize unless you are a preppie from Mich? I hope not.
I like your logic and how you debate, I don’t always agree with you, but I respect you and your opinions.
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:40 am
I remember that guy that died pryor to the start of the season…
Darrell Russell was tragic as well…I wonder if we had Chaplain Kaufman back then, instead of football player Kaufman…then agian, not sure what could have saved him!
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:41 am
In the meantime, Leinart is the shadowbox practice dummy for TP to sponge off of. Like an active asst. coach. Hopefully the preseason is enough time to declare TP the outright winner of QB2 duties.
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:41 am
187 JFB,
That is a solid argument as to why Leinart is a problem. Our #2 guy should be durable.
Im not going to argue with your reasoning there. I actually agree with it.
I just dont think its realistic to expect TP to be ready by then.
So we are going into the season with our backup QB situation much like our backup runningback situation. Unproven durability.
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:41 am
Warner was cut from his first team the Packers coming out of camp.
Than excelled in the Arena league for 4 years, blowing out almost every QB record there.
#3 in 1998 (technically his rookie year), Super Bowl MVP his 2nd year.
Interesting career path, but not quite what Pryor is looking at.
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:43 am
Nice article and very nice analogy in describing Seau on the field.
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:44 am
I just dont think its realistic to expect TP to be ready by then.
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I don’t think he is the type of QB prospect that many in here seem to think he was coming out of college, but I don’t see why not.
If Tebow can throw for 300 yards in a win in his 2nd career start his rookie year, TP can at least be the #2 coming out of the bye week in his 2nd year.
I think it would be a HUUUUUUUUGE indictment on him if he languished at the #3 spot all year.
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:46 am
Just watching NFL Network, seen that Laurenitis kid for the Rams, would love to have him playing MLB for us. He plays with alot of passion, plus he’s got a mean streak……..Reminds me of the Raiders MLB of Old. No more Slowlando …
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:46 am
Raider O Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:37 am
DMAC,
She was crying telling the fans how much she appreciates their love and support. It was sad.
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A parent should never have to bury their kids. Its always sad, but at the same time, it always happens. Young kids and children get murdered all the time in my city. I feel no sympathy what so ever for someone who takes their life.
I didn’t see anyone here shedding tears for Freddy B.
This guy had his daughter murdered back in 99′ and the killer just sentenced I believe.
Now thats sympathy!
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:47 am
How many 3rd round picks at QB, stay as the #3 for a few years?
Hell, even if they aren’t near ready, you spend that draft pick, you are going to start him at some point in time before he hits his contract year.
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:47 am
Yes, unique career path for sure.
But I think Pryors is pretty unique itself. Sure, the #3 guy usually doesnt end up being a starter but when has a really raw talent ever been given the time to properly develop? This league isnt patient. It’s why #3 guys are often rushed into #2 roles.
The #3 QB is often referred to as the “emergency QB”. Not “developmental QB”
GB was a QB factory throughout the 90s by developing #3 guys. Mark Brunell comes to mind and there were others I think, Aaron Brooks (he was good for the Saints)
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:48 am
129.RaiderRockstar Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:39 am
It has nothing to do with faith, but more about the image of the RAIDERS. We are the bad boys of the NFL.
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not anymore according to Dennis Allen. Did you read his latest Q&A with Kawakami?
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I don’t think that the image won’t change anytime soon.
There’s still tons of people in media who think of Raiders as the team that brings on the “bad boy” players and/or the team that rehashes old probowlers to rehab them…etc. etc.
How often have the Raiders really done that in recent years.
The “bad boy” mystique won’t change as long as they are wearing those uniforms.
It takes decades to change opinions sometimes.
Look at Dallas. They are still “Americas Team” but have won only ONE playoff game in the last 17 yrs.
And Pittsburgh. ESPN/NFLN etc. fall over themselves gushing, fawning and having orgasms over how “classy” their org is and how they don’t tolerate “bad” guys…YET…the guy who has the premier position (QB) is a guy who was reprimanded for a sexual miscue and was lucky not to be in jail for rape. THEN..you’ve got the dirtiest player in the league with Harrison on defense. Yet, Pittsburgh is sooooo classy and wonderful..always doing it the “right way”.
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:50 am
Sure, the #3 guy usually doesnt end up being a starter but when has a really raw talent ever been given the time to properly develop? This league isnt patient
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Agree 110%, and these HS kids should be looking at what school they go to as far as developing QB’s, because I do believe OSU failed TP a little.
I won’t say they stunted his growth, but they definately plateu’d at a level that should be unacceptable for a guy of Pryor’s talents.
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:50 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:47 am
How many 3rd round picks at QB, stay as the #3 for a few years?
Hell, even if they aren’t near ready, you spend that draft pick, you are going to start him at some point in time before he hits his contract year.
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How many 3rd round picks are that raw?
How many teams are that patient as we are trying to be?
How many kids work as hard as TP has given his circumstances?
Your last sentence is a prime example of a major mistake most teams make IMO with the QB. Using draft pick value to determine how soon he should be shoved into live combat is not smart. Once a player is drafted, its over. They are picked, they are just another rookie. Simply holding onto a bust because of his draft status or pushing him because of his draft status is a move made by impatient owners and GMs. Its not sound coaching.
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:51 am
DJ
Don’t forget Hines “Cheap Shot” Ward.
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:52 am
I believe part of why Pittsburgh gets all the love from the media is because the Rooney family are huge donators to Democratic super Pac’s.
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:53 am
DMAC,
A lot of people here were sad and sympathetic to FB and his daughter.
I know you don’t feel like talking about it, so we can move on.
TK at NT?! No thank you!
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:53 am
I cant see TP being ready by 2016
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LOL @ Riff!
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:55 am
Leinart can start games
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@ Riff
and lose 75% of them!!
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:55 am
Why do you always insist on taking words out of context RRS? It only hurts your argument as it makes you look juvenile.
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:55 am
Just watching NFL Network, seen that Laurenitis kid for the Rams, would love to have him playing MLB for us. He plays with alot of passion, plus he’s got a mean streak……..Reminds me of the Raiders MLB of Old. No more Slowlando …
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Another talented player from THEE Ohio State University!!
Damn you Mich!
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:56 am
Raider O Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:53 am
DMAC,
A lot of people here were sad and sympathetic to FB and his daughter.
I know you don’t feel like talking about it, so we can move on.
TK at NT?! No thank you!
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I got a feeling we will be seeing multiple looks on the D. Some schit that is going to have us saying wtf, just because we are so used to that 4-3 man to man.
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:56 am
204.Raider O Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:53 am
DMAC,
A lot of people here were sad and sympathetic to FB and his daughter.
I know you don’t feel like talking about it, so we can move on.
TK at NT?! No thank you!
I was one…but, like many said here…moving on!
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:59 am
202.DMAC Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:51 am
DJ
Don’t forget Hines “Cheap Shot” Ward.
203.Just Fire Baby Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:52 am
I believe part of why Pittsburgh gets all the love from the media is because the Rooney family are huge donators to Democratic super Pac’s
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Some guys have to leave in the middle of a segment talking about pittsburgh so they can go pleasure themselves in the rest room.
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:59 am
Was Laurentis’ old man part of the WWF Legion of Doom guys?
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:01 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:59 am
Was Laurentis’ old man part of the WWF Legion of Doom guys?
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Naw, I think of him more like Vin Diesel’s little brother.
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:01 am
I like everything Reggie and Coach Allen are doing.
I am so sick of seeing us lead the league in stupid penalties.
And Richard Seymour is the worst.
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:03 am
Kirk,
Remember, it always is the league picking on us with their big conspiracy against us as to why we lead the league in stupid penalties.
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:03 am
209.DMAC Says:
May 3rd, 2012
I got a feeling we will be seeing multiple looks on the D. Some schit that is going to have us saying wtf, just because we are so used to that 4-3 man to man.
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Praise Jesus!
We really have been the dumbest team in football.
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:04 am
Why do you always insist on taking words out of context RRS? It only hurts your argument as it makes you look juvenile.
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@Riff
everybody does it, including yourself.
I could bring up 10 points and you would only respond to the ones you felt were worth responding to. just the way it is. get over it
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:04 am
215.Just Fire Baby Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:03 am
Kirk,
Remember, it always is the league picking on us with their big conspiracy against us as to why we lead the league in stupid penalties.
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I assume that is sarcasm.
How can a leader of a team do the stupid stuff that Seymour does is beyond me.
You have to keep your head out there.
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:06 am
Raider O Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:36 am
Mike,
My mother moved back with us yesterday after she lost her job. I’m in a house with 3 females. Mother, Wife, and daughter. I’m thinking about suicide.
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lol lol … oh damn !!sounds like you might want to start drinking heavily !!
but on the bright side, with 3 women in the house , you shouldnt have to cook or clean the house !! lol lol lol….
and make sure to keep plenty of trees on hand for your mental health !!
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:06 am
Good assumption
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:07 am
Riff & Vegas,
College HC(s) need to win games, and not worry about developing talent for the NFL.
They should do the best thing for the team and the program, and not worry about developing future NFL players. How many college players play in the NFL?
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:07 am
212.Just Fire Baby Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:59 am
Was Laurentis’ old man part of the WWF Legion of Doom guys?
I thought I heard that before…you may be right!
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:09 am
JFB,
I know your jesting, but seriously, it’s almost a statistical impossibility for the Raiders to ALWAYS be at the top, or top 3 in penalties year after year decade after decade, with all the different coaches, players, etc. etc. without their being some pre-disposed “leaning” toward penalyzing the Raiders.
I’m not saying it’s an out and out “conspiracy” but I can’t believe there isn’t something going on.
The false starts? That’s on us (Raiders), but it’s common knowledge that “holding” for example, can be called on every single play almost.
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:10 am
@Riff
when TP is ready to be a backup, he’s ready to start. he wont be ready until 2014 or 2015 yesterday. he wont even be ready in 2016 today. nevermind that his contract term’s like 2 years before that. Pryor shouldn’t be RUSHED for a different spot on the bench (#2 qb vs #3 qb).
It’s not about me being juvenile, it’s about you making yourself look stupid.
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:11 am
Mike,
LOL
Speaking of mental health, I think it’s time for a good session.
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:11 am
DJ, our penalties were the natural consequence of bad judgement.
We have been the dumbest team in football for years.
Reggie is changing that.
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:12 am
O,
I think colleges get too hung up on wins and losses, and whether they make the Papa Johns bowl or something stupid like that, that nobody cares about except the ad execs and their already bloated ego.
College teachers, coaches and everybody else’s job that they get paid for BY TAXPAYER DOLLARS BTW, is too grow and groom these men to be ready for their next step in life.
College football needs to get back to the basics IMO.
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:13 am
I dont take words out of context RSS.
I said that TP wouldnt be ready to push CP out of the way by 2016. You made it sound like I said that I didnt think TP wouldnt be up to speed and a solid #2 by then.
It’s not the first time youve done that when quoting me.
I dont change your words to suit my argument. I take your stance for what it is and beat it with sound reasoning and logic. I never resort to juvenile tactics.
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:14 am
its always a good time for a good session !!
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:14 am
Once again, taking my comments out of context I see. #224
Congrats.
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:16 am
#221,
Raider O, I agree and dont necessarily fault college coaches for their tactics. But Tressell was on a long leash. He had time to develop TP into a real QB. He took the easy way out.
Tressell got lazy late in his career with OSU.
And your point is valid, lots of colleges do it, which is even more reason why teams need to be patient. Its why the Steelers are so damn good. They develop their guys and make them always ride the bench at first.
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:17 am
I’m not saying it’s an out and out “conspiracy” but I can’t believe there isn’t something going on.
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Well I definately think the Raiders made their bed, and are suffering from never getting the benefit of the doubt.
But I think this happens in all sports. Kobe is going to get more calls than Brian Cardinal. Greg Maddux is going to get the calls on the corner more than Barry Zito (great job last night Barry, 7 walks in 3 innings; stellar).
They get the calls, because they are consistantly on the right side of it, and will get the benefit of the doubt.
Raiders are on the opposite side of the spectrum.
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:18 am
@DJG
the Raiders have to EARN that “bad boy” image you speak of. You can’t call yourself a bully when you just lost a game due to stupid penalties or turnovers. You can’t call yourself a physical football team when the team against you averages 140-160 rushing yards per game. Last year, OAK couldn’t stuff the run, get after the QB or limit the big passing plays. I expect improvement on defense and it’s because Reggie & Dennis don’t care about a reputation. They want to instill discipline and accountability. Perhaps the “bad boy” imagine returns later, but you can’t have it until you have that other stuff first. fundamentals.
Not everybody wants to play for the Raiders because of the jersey or what happened 25+ years ago. Players want to win. We’ll attract a lot more FA’s that way. Think Peyton Manning would have chosen Denver the year before last? wouldn’t have even considered it!!
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:18 am
Vegas,
Teachers get paid to teach. Coaches get paid to coach and win games. If the program doesn’t win enough games, then it will be hard to get the required funds to run that program.
Who pays/ contributes a lot to these programs, and what do they care about?
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:20 am
Once again, taking my comments out of context I see. #224
Congrats.
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@Riff
if you don’t want to look like a fool, don’t say foolish things!!
Sincerely,
-Common Sense
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:20 am
Watching Barry Zito pitch is almost as agonizing and frustratingly hopeless as watching Jamarcus play QB.
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:20 am
JFB,
Kobe gets the calls because he’s on the Lakers, and the NBA’s ratings depend heavily on the Lakers being in contention.
Maddux is a good example of how ridiculous baseball is. Why have a rulebook if the rules are constantly fluid depending on who is playing. Talk about a sport with a lack of integrity. Theyve fought instant replay and laser strike zones so that games cannot be manipulated for ratings.
And yes, its very clear the league has had a bone to pick with us. Im not even going to start listing examples.
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:21 am
Coaches get paid to coach and win games
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@ Raider O
unless your Lane Kiffin or Bobby Petrino!!
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:22 am
Im not the one saying those things RRS. You are. You are taking words out of context, using incomplete quotes, and misquoting me to suite your agenda.
Anyone reading our exchange can see that.
How JFB has you on his staff is incredible to me. Youre arguing like a 12 year old.
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:24 am
“Im not the one saying those things RRS. You are.”
followed by
“Youre arguing like a 12 year old.”
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pot, meet kettle
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:24 am
Coaches get paid to coach and win games.
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Really? Than why do so many coaches who win a lot like your buddy Tressel get shat-canned?
And is that what these coaches tell these kids and families when they recruit them.
“Well, Mrs. Jones, my job is to win games, so hopefully Johnny can play, because if not, I will sit him on the bench to make sure I win games.”
BS……they tell them everything about how great the school is, how they will treat them like a son, how they will prepare them for their next stage in life, and than flee the next year to some other school for more cash.
College football coaches are the scummiest in the business.
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:25 am
College football coaches are the scummiest in the business.
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don’t listen to them, Tarver!
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:26 am
RR,
The kittin and the liar! Those are not coaches! Those 2 bastards should not be allowed around young men.
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:27 am
Kobe gets the calls because he’s on the Lakers, and the NBA’s ratings depend heavily on the Lakers being in contention.
True to a point…I still think if Kobe left next year to any other team…let’s say teh Kings…I think his super status still gets those calls!
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:27 am
When Pryor is the #3 going into the season, you can have your crow fried or baked or raw. I dont care. Just so much that you take it like a man.
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:27 am
Theyve fought instant replay and laser strike zones so that games cannot be manipulated for ratings.
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They fought it because fans don’t want it.
Instant replay on home runs is OK. Strike zones? Absolutely not, it is part of the game.
Veteran teams know the different umpires, whether they call the high strike or low strike, etc.
It’s all part of the nuances, that make the game so great.
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:28 am
BS is what they tell the kids when they recruit them!
Preppie was fired for covering for his players and because he was going to get suspended, but don’t let the facts interfere with your argument.
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:29 am
This may be the best news i have heard all so far this off season. Pryor is in the mix for the no.2 spot which means he is progressing more quickly then expected. He is working nose to the grind stone, and he is considered a very talented prospect by this regime. I cant wait to see him in this offense in pre season!!!! Maybe by years end or next season he can become our number 1 qb. With his mobility he is a very good fit in a zone based offense. They can be very creative with zone reads ghost motions and so on. anything will be better than those world class losers and turn over machines palmer and lienert.
Allen said the Raiders signed quarterback Matt Leinart this week to be a veteran sounding board for old USC teammate Carson Palmer and also to aid the development of Terrelle Pryor.
And Allen stressed that the Leinart move isn’t a sign
that the Raiders are giving up on Pryor as a QB. In fact, Allen said Pryor will compete with Leinart for the main backup spot.
“He has all kinds of talent,” Allen said of Pryor, who has been working out at the Raiders facility.
“He’s not there from a mental standpoint, from a fundamental standpoint, which is true of 99 percent of the young quarterbacks that come into this league.
“The other thing he’s shown me is, this guy’s a worker. … He’s wants to prove to everybody that he can be a quarterback for us in the National Football League.”
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:29 am
Vegas,
You didn’t answer my question.
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:30 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:20 am
Watching Barry Zito pitch is almost as agonizing and frustratingly hopeless as watching Jamarcus play QB.
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Thanx for taking him across the Bay.
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:30 am
Preppie was fired for covering for his players and because he was going to get suspended, but don’t let the facts interfere with your argument.
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He was fired for being completely self-aborbsed and selfish, as they almost all are.
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:30 am
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/andrew_perloff/05/01/2013.nfl.mock.draft/index.html?sct=nfl_wr_a3
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Tyler Bray, huh?? Palmer better lead this team to more wins than he did the Bengals in 2010 or he’s going to become the dreaded “caretaker” veteran QB.
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:31 am
JFB,
If the ball goes over the plate and is between the knees and the letters, its a strike.
It’s a pretty black and white issue. If you are a fan of a team and you see on a replay that it was a strike, youre mad that the call wasnt made right. Why would anyone argue against having the “right” call? Soccer in Europe has the same issue.
Leaving room for ambiguity leaves room for manipulation. If you think sports arent manipulated you are living a life of bliss and I will let you enjoy it. Just dont ever look behind the scenes, you wont like what you see.
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:32 am
Instant replay on home runs is OK. Strike zones? Absolutely not, it is part of the game.
Veteran teams know the different umpires, whether they call the high strike or low strike, etc.
It’s all part of the nuances, that make the game so great.
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I agree.
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:33 am
3-4 Nose Tackle is Tommy Kelly? Lol Dennis Allen is dumb as hell…..this will be a failure…..Kelly as a NT again? No way…doesn’t play with enough leverage and will be pushed backwards constantly….amazing
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:34 am
Who pays/ contributes a lot to these programs, and what do they care about?
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Of course the donor’s want to win, they are usually alumni. Not saying you don’t try to win, but that is the one thing the kid has the right to ask for. They can’t ask for money and other tangible goods, but they can tell them I want you to develop me for XYZ (be it coaching, playing Pro, working on Wall Street).
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:35 am
LOL @ ROG
I knew you would be pleased to hear we added Leinart and that Kelly is our NT!!
you coming around to Knapp & Palmer yet??
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:38 am
Leaving room for ambiguity leaves room for manipulation. If you think sports arent manipulated you are living a life of bliss and I will let you enjoy it. Just dont ever look behind the scenes, you wont like what you see.
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Listen here Cowboy, I got many behind the scenes look at baseball, my cousin is fairly prominant in the Pro Baseball Media world and I am sure there is a little manipulation here and there. Who doesn’t think there is?
But the ump can’t swing for you, field the ball for you, give 110% effort for you.
Baseball has no clock, so you can’t just let every close foul ball be called fair and see what happens and than review it. Yankee’s-Red Sox games would last 7 hours.
Human-element and error is OK by me. I wish they would get rid of instant replay in football, except for only TD’s.
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:39 am
Vegas,
We just agreed that HC(s) give the kid and his parents a BS session to get their commitment. The kid needs to do his homework, and not depend on what the coaches say/ promise during recruitment.
The money comes mainly from Alumni who are more concerned about winning than producing NFL talent.
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:42 am
Kelly as the nose tackle is fine in the 3-4, if it’s just as an occasional change up to the defense.
You whinny little girls need someone to hold your hand.
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:43 am
The money comes mainly from Alumni who are more concerned about winning than producing NFL talent.
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That’s the problem with alumni, they can’t see the forrest through the tree’s.
They would rather do everything possible to win that last game so they can go to the Weedeater bowl and party in San Antonio or wherever it is, rather than realize that producing top-flght draft picks, will further inhance recruiting, and it can snowball from there, so instead of going to the Weedeater bowl, you are going to the Sugar bowl in the future.
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:43 am
Vegas,
Like you stated before. These kids get paid for their services in the form of scholarships among other things. They get a chance that most of us dream about, so I don’t feel sorry for them. I can’t afford my MBA program, so I have to find an employer willing to pay for it. It’s been almost a year since I graduated, and now I’m willing to work for VZ or SolarT if they are willing tI pay for my MBA. Not an ideal situation for me since I wanted to work in wealth mgmt.
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:45 am
Vegas,
And don’t forget about bragging rights.
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:46 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:18 am
@DJG
the Raiders have to EARN that “bad boy” image you speak of.
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I don’t mean “bad boy” in a good sense, I mean they have the image of the “ne’er do well”, not so much “bad boy” that teams are scared of us.
Back in the 70’s, early 80’s and for a long time after that the “good” part of that bad boy image was in play.
Lately it’s changed to just being “bad boy” in the sense the org isn’t doing the right things.
My point is it takes a while for a teams “image” to change.
Some of these analysts don’t seem to even realize Al is gone yet.
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:46 am
@Kirk
Kelly at 3-4 NT puts McClain in an even bigger position to fail imo
Also, who is the ILB beside him?
the 7th round rookie or oft-injured Travis Goethel?
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:47 am
I don’t feel sorry for the kids either. I guess that sounds like double-talk, I just don’t understand what the hell is the difference from going 7-5 or 9-3 in a college season, unless you are talking about winning the conference.
Otherwise, who the hell cares? I am a Cal Bear fan, I think they went to a bowl game last year, but I really couldn’t tell you who they played and what it was.
It is completely meaningless.
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:47 am
My point is it takes a while for a teams “image” to change.
Some of these analysts don’t seem to even realize Al is gone yet.
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@DJG
in that case, I agree with you
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:49 am
Kelly at 3-4 NT puts McClain in an even bigger position to fail imo
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All right, I got my ready-made excuse for Rolando in 2012 now!!!!
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:51 am
3-4 defense:
LE: Houston/ Bryant
NT: TK, Hamilton
RE: Seymour/ Bryant
OLB: Wheeler/ Burris/ Tollefson
ILB: McClain, Goethel
ILB: Curry, Stupar
OLB: Shaughnessy/ Burris/ Tollefson
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:52 am
All right, I got my ready-made excuse for Rolando in 2012 now!!!!
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LOL @ JFB
watch Kelly be a better 3-4 NT than Kelly Gregg was in Baltimore or Casey Hampton was in Pittsburg.. that’s be funny
ya never know?
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:53 am
put in the rookie from MO!
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:53 am
Whether it is a 3-4, 4-3, 2-4-5 or whatever, I don’t think we will be in ANY standard formation, over 30% of the time.
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:55 am
I don’t think they will relize Al is gone for a long, long time! Until the penalties goes way down, which it can because I remember one game at home where we didn’t get penalized until the 2 minute warning…
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:56 am
When I first heard of Kelly at NT, it sounded nuts. Then I remembered that coach Allen is way smarter than me (and everyone on this blog) when it comes to NFL defense. I’m pretty sure he knows what he’s doing
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:57 am
Who was DC when Kelly was NT?
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:58 am
I think our DC being from Stanford and our HC wearing a dorky visor will lower the penalties in itself by about 2 a game.
Especially compared to a brain dead DC, and a bald-headed loud-mouth we had last year.
Perception is the only reality at times.
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:58 am
RaiderDebo Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:30 am
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/andrew_perloff/05/01/2013.nfl.mock.draft/index.html?sct=nfl_wr_a3
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Tyler Bray, huh?? Palmer better lead this team to more wins than he did the Bengals in 2010 or he’s going to become the dreaded “caretaker” veteran QB.
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dear god no!!!!! palmer must go, but bray is the next rick mirer dan maquire, no thanks
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:59 am
I think we will play 4-3 (50%), and that will be our base defense. We will also play some 3-4 among other formations to confuse the offense, and try to get our players in positions to make more plays.
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:59 am
Bald headed loud mouth from last year…LMAO!!!
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:59 am
odd thing is, having Palmer with a full offseason under his belt along with the youngsters like T Jones & D Moore and the DC being able to do whatever he wants and no lockout … I think could be 12-4 next year
despite losing a few key players like Bush, Boss, Satele on offense. Wimbley, Routt, CJ37 on defense.
despite Reggie not having many picks or cash for FA’s
May 3rd, 2012 at 11:00 am
dear god no!!!!! palmer must go, but bray is the next rick mirer dan maquire, no thanks
Wow, Dan McGuire…forgot about that guy!
May 3rd, 2012 at 11:02 am
And, why does that guy have us picking 4th?
May 3rd, 2012 at 11:02 am
Yeah, not real sold on Tyler Bray. Or the kid from Arkansas either.
But I didn’t see Geno Smith in the first round, and there was 6 QB’s in that mock in the first round.
Kind of suprised by that. I thik Geno would be a 1st/2nd but maybe not.
May 3rd, 2012 at 11:02 am
easy fellas,
Dan McGwire was from SDSU.
Raider O may come out swinging!!
May 3rd, 2012 at 11:04 am
284.RaiderRockstar Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 11:02 am
easy fellas,
Dan McGwire was from SDSU.
Raider O may come out swinging!!
LOL…so did Marshall Faulk
May 3rd, 2012 at 11:06 am
There is a guy actually named “Ray-Ray”?
Parents these days…………
May 3rd, 2012 at 11:06 am
Dan McGwire is currently the president of a vitamin water company in Reno, Nevada. – WIKI
finally we hear of a 1st round bust QB that made something of himself!
Russell, Boller, Losman, Campbell, Leinart taking notes ??
May 3rd, 2012 at 11:07 am
LOL RR
May 3rd, 2012 at 11:08 am
Haha! Russell is taking notes now at LSU!
May 3rd, 2012 at 11:12 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 11:06 am
There is a guy actually named “Ray-Ray”?
Parents these days…………
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my step daughter teaches school.. she has twins in her class named orangejello and lemonjello !! and another kid named lee-a ( she was told the name is leedasha..said the dash isnt silent !!) this is no b.s.
what the he11 are parents thinking ????
May 3rd, 2012 at 11:13 am
What’s up Mike? Orangejello and LemonJello? SERIOUSLY!
May 3rd, 2012 at 11:16 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 11:06 am
There is a guy actually named “Ray-Ray”?
Parents these days…………
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Hey c’mon now….watch it wise guy!
Lol…
May 3rd, 2012 at 11:16 am
my step daughter teaches school.. she has twins in her class named orangejello and lemonjello
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@Mike
thanks for the ideas on #nextkidsnames !!
May 3rd, 2012 at 11:18 am
Here’s something you guys will get a kick out of….
“Hey Justin (Balckmon), it’s Gene Smith with the Jaguars,” said the Jacksonville general manager in a voicemail left on Blackmon’s phone yesterday (Draft Day)afternoon. “We’ve been trying to call you for almost a week now. Don’t know if you’re out of the service area or left your phone on silent, but if you could call us back that’d be great. We got what I hope is good news for you, so please, please, get in touch with us. OK?” Smith paused then added, “Maybe I’ll try back again a bit later,”which Smith did do but was unable to leave a message as Blackmon’s voice mailbox was full.
Not made up…true story!
May 3rd, 2012 at 11:21 am
R8ER MIKE Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 11:12 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 11:06 am
There is a guy actually named “Ray-Ray”?
Parents these days…………
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my step daughter teaches school.. she has twins in her class named orangejello and lemonjello !! and another kid named lee-a ( she was told the name is leedasha..said the dash isnt silent !!) this is no b.s.
what the he11 are parents thinking ????
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Real Talk
Last year I taught a boy named Phuc. Pronounced Fooc.
May 3rd, 2012 at 11:21 am
I’m an Aztec for life.
I love my Buckeyes! They play football like a bully. Over power you at the LOS, run the ball, and play good defense.
I love AL and the Raiders!! Vertical passing attack, run the ball to keep the defense honest, which will create one on one matchups in the passing game, and let our speed kill you. You can teach routes, improve catching, but you can’t teach/ coach speed. On Defense I like it simple, we are going to play man, our players are bigger, stronger, faster, and smarter, and they will win in one on one matchups.
I miss AL!!
May 3rd, 2012 at 11:21 am
@ ray
same thing happened when Reggie tried to contact Tyvon??
May 3rd, 2012 at 11:22 am
Raider O Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 11:21 am
I’m an Aztec for life.
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Yeah me too…I was actually born that way and not by choice!
May 3rd, 2012 at 11:23 am
LMAO ODB.
Funnies guy here…. Print that!!!
Long Live ODB (green part member)!
May 3rd, 2012 at 11:23 am
yeah seriously.. i am not that smart to just make that sh1t up !!! or ang a lo is how you say one and
la mon jalo is the other is said !!!
she was calling lee-a , leea. the mother told her ” the dash dont be silent”
lol lol lol
May 3rd, 2012 at 11:24 am
Went to school with Kandy Kane. Also Miles Standish VIII.
Then there were Griff and Grayle Tully.
My son went to school with twin girls named Saphire and Diamond.
Still think my current fav is Coco Crisp.
May 3rd, 2012 at 11:25 am
R8,
LOL
You must very proud. Great culture.
Go AZTECS!
Btw, I was born an Aztec too. My father was an Aztec, uncle, and 3 cousins, so I didn’t have a choice. lol
May 3rd, 2012 at 11:25 am
My least favorite name is Turdell. I don’t get that at all. This is followed by Hedwig.
May 3rd, 2012 at 11:26 am
Saphire and Diamond?
Hey at least they don’t need a stage name!!!
May 3rd, 2012 at 11:27 am
grew up with a guy named Mark Franscio. named his son Sam. worked with another guy named Matt Adams, named his daughter Samantha, they call her Sam !!!
May 3rd, 2012 at 11:28 am
I think I have a cool name. Thanx granny.
May 3rd, 2012 at 11:28 am
ODB,
-Raiders drafted a dead player.
-Orangejello & Lemonjello.
Still LMAO!
May 3rd, 2012 at 11:28 am
I work for a hospital and we have a Dr. Bonebrake
yikes!!
May 3rd, 2012 at 11:29 am
My cousin is an Aztec, was editor of the sports page of the Daily Aztec, and helped rally up funds for the billboard near the Thomas and Mack this year for the MWC tourney.
About as big an Aztec promoter as there is.
Of course, they lost to the Lobo’s!!!
Woof-Woof MFer!!!
May 3rd, 2012 at 11:29 am
we also have a Dr. Allcock
no joke!!
May 3rd, 2012 at 11:30 am
My pediatrician was named Dr. Bruiser. He was also a surgeon.
May 3rd, 2012 at 11:30 am
I once bowled with a guy named Hung. Whenever he introduced himself he said: “Hi, I’m Hung”. When the waitress looked at us for an explanation, we simply said “He’s Hung”. Always good for a laugh
May 3rd, 2012 at 11:31 am
I once met a chick named Dr. Head.
Naw I just made that up, but…………
May 3rd, 2012 at 11:33 am
Dr. Goodhead was one of the best Bond names
May 3rd, 2012 at 11:34 am
FU & your Lobo’s!
Your cousins is a very smart man.
May 3rd, 2012 at 11:34 am
Cousin*
May 3rd, 2012 at 11:35 am
A friend of mine last name is Abbott. She strongly resisted suggestions to name her two kids Peter or Jennifer.
May 3rd, 2012 at 11:35 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 11:29 am
My cousin is an Aztec, was editor of the sports page of the Daily Aztec, and helped rally up funds for the billboard near the Thomas and Mack this year for the MWC tourney.
About as big an Aztec promoter as there is.
Of course, they lost to the Lobo’s!!!
Woof-Woof MFer!!!
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What’s the 411 on Burris? I’m sure he knows more than the average bear!
And of course, they both lost to the Runnin Rebels!
May 3rd, 2012 at 11:36 am
LOL, in high school, a girl that was 2 years younger than me was named Lea Chee…guess what her sisters name is? Well, if you know what the Korean pickled cabbage is called…
May 3rd, 2012 at 11:36 am
I don’t understand the Aztecs football program. They get talent, but they don’t win enough games.
May 3rd, 2012 at 11:38 am
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May 3rd, 2012 at 11:39 am
I always felt when naming your kids, it is good to remember they will grow up and be able to get even one day.
May 3rd, 2012 at 11:41 am
Didn’t Michigan’s current coach come from SDSU? Problem down there is probably that they can’t afford a big-time coach
May 3rd, 2012 at 11:44 am
The problem w/ SD State is that O Dog is getting high w/ most players before their home games.
lol
May 3rd, 2012 at 11:44 am
I remember when SDSU was in the WAC. When Faulk was there, they used to win the WAC off and on with BYU (who are now both in the Mountain West, I believe)…not sure what happened after!
May 3rd, 2012 at 11:47 am
322.qodrn1 Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 11:39 am
I always felt when naming your kids, it is good to remember they will grow up and be able to get even one day.
Agreed!
May 3rd, 2012 at 11:56 am
cuts today:
CB Drew Coleman (Jags)
WR Tiquan Underwood (Pats)
May 3rd, 2012 at 12:00 pm
DMAC,
LOL
Never. I was the teachers’ pet.
May 3rd, 2012 at 12:01 pm
Sex pet?
May 3rd, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Can’t believe EJ Henderson is still a FA. I like is game at MLB. Is he still injured or his legs gone now after his severe injury?
May 3rd, 2012 at 12:05 pm
#290 – LMAO! Serious?
May 3rd, 2012 at 12:07 pm
Hwnrdr,
Boise is going back to the WAC. BYU is the MWC.
May 3rd, 2012 at 12:08 pm
Raider O Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 12:00 pm
DMAC,
LOL
Never. I was the teachers’ pet.
DMAC Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 12:01 pm
Sex pet?
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when i was in school all the teachers were all old and stuff.
lol just the way i like em now !!!
May 3rd, 2012 at 12:12 pm
Good hire by McK to hire Herock as his new college scouting director.
Let much needed house cleaning continue!
May 3rd, 2012 at 12:13 pm
DMAC,
NO!! They were mainly men, and the women were old or ugly. The girls at campus were good enough for me. lol
May 3rd, 2012 at 12:16 pm
Gilfs need love 2 right Mikey?
May 3rd, 2012 at 12:17 pm
Kingdon and other employees that were with org for 30 plus years is a damn good run.
Nothing to be ashamed of. Change was needed folks.
May 3rd, 2012 at 12:17 pm
ODB loves his hummer gummers!
LMAO
Long Live ODB!
May 3rd, 2012 at 12:18 pm
ODB
May I ask how young you are in years?
May 3rd, 2012 at 12:20 pm
I like the signing of Wang for depth purposes.
May 3rd, 2012 at 12:21 pm
i am 49 DMAC
May 3rd, 2012 at 12:21 pm
lol lol
dont knock it till you try it O !!
May 3rd, 2012 at 12:21 pm
Later gents.
May 3rd, 2012 at 12:22 pm
R8ER MIKE Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 12:21 pm
i am 49 DMAC
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And all this time, I thought you were a young gun, like myself.
lol
May 3rd, 2012 at 12:22 pm
Peace O Dog
Be safe carnal!
May 3rd, 2012 at 12:23 pm
have a good day O !
May 3rd, 2012 at 12:23 pm
Never ODB!! I like’em with teeth. They look before and after.
Later Bro, I have to go teach math for about an hour.
May 3rd, 2012 at 12:24 pm
A quick glance, then, at the names of the players claiming to have been signed by the Raiders as UDFA’s before the Raiders actually announce the signings…
Fort Valley State punter Marquette King
Wisconsin safety Aaron Henry
Beloit receiver Derek Carrier
Pittsburgh guard Lucas Nix
Utah cornerback Conroy Black
Penn State defensive back Chaz Powell
USC receiver Brandon Carswell
California (PA) Thomas Mayo
UNR defensive end Kaelin Burnett
Missouri defensive lineman Dominique Hamilton
Kansas State defensive tackle Raphael Guidry
Arizona State offensive lineman Dan Knapp
Temple receiver Rod Streater
San Diego State linebacker Mario Kurn
San Jose State running back Brandon Rutley
May 3rd, 2012 at 12:24 pm
nope DMAC.. think O hit it on the head when he named me ODB !! lol lol lol
May 3rd, 2012 at 12:25 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:59 am
Was Laurentis’ old man part of the WWF Legion of Doom guys?====================================================-No it was his brother that was.
May 3rd, 2012 at 12:32 pm
Peace!
I’m ghost.
Ya’ll players be safe.
May 3rd, 2012 at 12:33 pm
have a good one too DMAC !!
green party rules !!
May 3rd, 2012 at 12:33 pm
I see people talking about funny names on here earlier.I know a lady named Juanita Bohner!!!LOL.
May 3rd, 2012 at 12:37 pm
Leinart as the nbr 2 QB is a complete and utter waste of time.
The idea that Matt Lice is going to win games if needed, or serve as a mentor for TP, or the ‘eyes’ for CP is absurd.
For better or worse, the days where NFL franchises draft a QB and sit him for 3 years in a developmental process are long gone.
If CP goes down, Matt Lice’s pop-gun arm and helium ball throws will NOT win games for the Raids.
Ready or not, the correct thing to do would be to insert Pryor and go with the ‘trial by fire’ approach.
His career will not be ruined even if he’s not an immediate success.
At some point you’ve got to find out how he’ll respond when the real bullets are being fired.
The coaches have to see him play in an actual contest and they’ve got to make the determination of whether TP has a future as a QB or not.
Yeah, they can get an idea from practice, but there’s only one way to really KNOW.
Leinart is a stiff, and quite frankly I’m unhappy that there’s even a chance he’ll be the primary backup.
Leinart isn’t going to win games, he’s never going to develop into a capable starter.
Why waste time on Matty Lice ?
It’ll be a good sign if Leinart isn’t even on the roster when the 2012 season commences.
May 3rd, 2012 at 12:54 pm
Hot Shot Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 12:33 pm
I see people talking about funny names on here earlier.I know a lady named Juanita Bohner!!!LOL.
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lol .. Bohner, i hardly know her !!!
May 3rd, 2012 at 12:56 pm
Ok tired seeing same crap on here.TP and Leinart are both on the team.They will compete weather anyone likes it or not.Its sounds like a broken record in here.Talk about something else already.The QB situation is better than we have had it in a few years.They are both on the team already and we know there is a mixed reaction.But let the coaches on the field make the call.Coach will put the best Player back up or 3rd string.Case closed now move on.
May 3rd, 2012 at 12:58 pm
R8ER MIKE Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 12:54 pm
Hot Shot Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 12:33 pm
I see people talking about funny names on here earlier.I know a lady named Juanita Bohner!!!LOL.
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lol .. Bohner, i hardly know her !!!
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May 3rd, 2012 at 12:54 pm
Hot Shot Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 12:33 pm
I see people talking about funny names on here earlier.I know a lady named Juanita Bohner!!!LOL.
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lol .. Bohner, i hardly know her !!!
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May 3rd, 2012 at 12:54 pm
Hot Shot Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 12:33 pm
I see people talking about funny names on here earlier.I know a lady named Juanita Bohner!!!LOL.
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lol .. Bohner, i hardly know her !!!
——————————————————–Funny thing is that is a real persons name no BS.
May 3rd, 2012 at 12:59 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:12 am
O,
I think colleges get too hung up on wins and losses, and whether they make the Papa Johns bowl or something stupid like that, that nobody cares about except the ad execs and their already bloated ego.
College teachers, coaches and everybody else’s job that they get paid for BY TAXPAYER DOLLARS BTW, is too grow and groom these men to be ready for their next step in life.
College football needs to get back to the basics IMO.
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This is one of the most hilariously cynical things I’ve read on here. Good one.
May 3rd, 2012 at 1:00 pm
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/03/lions-make-an-offer-to-ryan-grant/
one less RB on the market?
May 3rd, 2012 at 1:01 pm
Damn it hate my key board is missing a y button Have to copy and paste one.I forget when I copy something to go back and copy a y.Time for a new Laptop!!!
May 3rd, 2012 at 1:03 pm
anybody think former Packers safety Nick Collins will be 100% by September??
maybe he’s played his last down, like Darren Sharper?
May 3rd, 2012 at 1:07 pm
Everybody feel good about Jones & Goodson backing up DMAC ??
no rookie RB’s added, drafted or undrafted
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/oakland-raiders-reportedly-looking-running-backs-ryan-grant-185100945–nfl.html
if we can’t get Benson, I’ll take Tomlinson
May 3rd, 2012 at 1:09 pm
for the love of God i hope we dont take Tomlinson.
just cant stand the little cry baby.
May 3rd, 2012 at 1:09 pm
According to Steve Corkran, NFL writer for the Contra Costa Times, he believes the Raiders are more interested in Grant than Benson, although Benson has expressed a serious interest in joining Oakland.
Lol..really?
May 3rd, 2012 at 1:10 pm
you thing our new OG will Wang Chung tonight!!!!LOL
May 3rd, 2012 at 1:11 pm
did we sign this kid ??
http://www.sjsuspartans.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=5600&ATCLID=1551264
May 3rd, 2012 at 1:12 pm
WIKI has Brandon Rutley (RB) on our roster…
just posted his bio.
Guessing the Raiders haven’t confirmed anything??
May 3rd, 2012 at 1:14 pm
Lonyae Miller, Rashawn Jackson & Brandon Rutley fighting for a roster spot?
We need 4 RB’s on the roster with the injury concerns & fumble concorns on all 3 of our top backs!!
May 3rd, 2012 at 1:14 pm
Kirk….spare the little girl comment….we have multiple years of proof that Kelly isn’t up to be a run stuffer….occassional? No we are transitioning to a 3-4 eventually…can’t you see that? Kelly doesn’t deserve to be on this team ever again. He isn’t even good as a 4-3 UT…..reggie and allen fu–in up big time
RRS….not warming up toknapp or palmer….I want to win so ill hope for the best since Palmer gets a full year but I don’t like qbs like him and I hate the wco
May 3rd, 2012 at 1:17 pm
All rbs we are looking at suck….benson sucks….grant sucks….come on reggie!
May 3rd, 2012 at 1:17 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 1:12 pm
WIKI has Brandon Rutley (RB) on our roster…
just posted his bio.
Guessing the Raiders haven’t confirmed anything??
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May 3rd, 2012 at 1:18 pm
B-dogg, what up mayne?
How you do?
May 3rd, 2012 at 1:26 pm
?? mayne?? see that in here a lot. is it a west coast thing or just some you young people say these days ??
please to enlighten me
May 3rd, 2012 at 1:27 pm
Some decent backs should get cut too.
May 3rd, 2012 at 1:27 pm
Who needs a NT?
Teams are going to throw it waaaaay more than any other year in NFL history, it is going to be ridiculous.
NT’s are a dying breed, along with the “true” FB.
Useful at times and more so on certain weekends, but than there are games when they are basically useless and don’t see the field.
Besides, “true” NT rarely play on any special teams units except for maybe FG blocks, so the roster spot doesn’t produce ANYTHING, if they don’t excel at stopping some running plays.
May 3rd, 2012 at 1:28 pm
All rbs we are looking at suck….benson sucks….grant sucks….come on reggie!
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@ROG
would you rather have Thomas Jones or Lady Tomlinson??
May 3rd, 2012 at 1:29 pm
Hey Mike, you are right near the Beltway for two first place baseball teams!!
Who would have ever thought that huh?
May 3rd, 2012 at 1:32 pm
we have multiple years of proof that Kelly isn’t up to be a run stuffer….occassional? No we are transitioning to a 3-4 eventually…can’t you see that? Kelly doesn’t deserve to be on this team ever again. He isn’t even good as a 4-3 UT…..reggie and allen fu–in up big time
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@ROG
my point exactly.
if Kelly doesn’t dominate 1 O-Lineman, how do you expect him to dominate 2?
he’s more of a get after the QB type of guy, isn’t he?
I mean, Kelly joined us in 2004 and our run defense sucks no matter where he’s lined up, seems like.
he’s been 3-4 DE as a rookie. 4-3 UT next to Sapp, Warren & Sands. 4-3 NT next to Seymour.
May 3rd, 2012 at 1:33 pm
Lonyae all day.. Its Miller time! Go Raiders!
May 3rd, 2012 at 1:38 pm
Unless Taiwan or Goodson can play CB, we don’t need anymore RBs!
May 3rd, 2012 at 1:38 pm
The only reason Kelly got any sacks cause he was next to Seymour.
May 3rd, 2012 at 1:38 pm
Our biggest help to our run defense, will be the opposing QB and OC not knowing what type of defense he is going to see on Sunday, by Wednesday.
We have completely let the opposing teams dictate tempo and not have to think a whole lot offensively for quite sometime now.
May 3rd, 2012 at 1:40 pm
WANGSANITY!
May 3rd, 2012 at 1:44 pm
Houston would be a better NT then Kelly.
May 3rd, 2012 at 1:44 pm
Methods right, we can’t be contenders if we can’t stop the run. Personnel wise we haven’t done anything to improve the run D except for replacing Wimbley and adding lb depth meanwhile Henderson is gone. DA has his hands full
May 3rd, 2012 at 1:48 pm
Personnel wise we got rid of Chuck B and added a rising up and coming DC, along with a similarly rising defensive-minded HC.
May 3rd, 2012 at 1:48 pm
#385,
Have faith in Miles Burris.
We all know Clay Mathews is merely the “poor mans Miles Burris”.
But seriously, I think this Burris kid is gonna be special.
Then again, i’m the eternal optimist.
May 3rd, 2012 at 1:49 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 1:29 pm
Hey Mike, you are right near the Beltway for two first place baseball teams!!
Who would have ever thought that huh?
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ya can you belive it !! sorry to say it wont last long.
seems like they both start out great then just when you get your hopes up they both start to suck !!
May 3rd, 2012 at 1:53 pm
The O’s will fall off, but I think the Nats are for real.
The Nationals have given up 6 home runs, all year as a staff!!!
Tim Lincecum has given up 5, lol.
May 3rd, 2012 at 1:54 pm
Tonga is from San Mateo (went to BYU)
Miller is from Fontana (went to Fresno State)
Jones is from San Francisco (went to Eastern Washington)
Rutley is from Martinez (went to San Jose State)
lot of local boys in our backfield!!
May 3rd, 2012 at 1:54 pm
Stopping a passing game is more important in todays game than stopping the run game to game.Look at the teams that win the SB.They are better pass defensive teams than run stopping teams.Kelly is a very good linemen and those that say he isn’t shouldn’t comment on the subject because either they don’t have a clue or they just hate on players they dislike.Brien is great at that.He starts disliking a player and will spend hours on here hating on the guy even if it isn’t warranted.
May 3rd, 2012 at 2:00 pm
Our biggest help to our run defense, will be the opposing QB and OC not knowing what type of defense he is going to see on Sunday, by Wednesday.
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100% correct. Imagine the opposing QB having to guess where the opposing players are vs knowing exactly they will turn tails and run downfield.
May 3rd, 2012 at 2:02 pm
Houston will be better inside.Hes Absent at pass rush but is a better run stuffer.
May 3rd, 2012 at 2:05 pm
Houston is a classic tweener. Quick for the inside but too slow for the outside. I say put a big ugly next to him on the inside and allow him to get up field for a sack. He reminds me of Sapp in some ways.
May 3rd, 2012 at 2:06 pm
You pick:
A) “The Raiders lost game breaker and NFL leading rusher Darren McFadden more than half way thru the season. He’s back. Also, former 2 time pro bowler Carson Palmer, who came off the couch to play in a rushed situation, will be back, and if the end of the season is any indication, he’s coming back better than ever, and with a full off season to work out the kinks with his receivers… should be a weapon at QB. The O-Line, which was already fairly solid, has been improved with the addition of a veteran lineman in the person of Mike Brisiel from the Texans.
The defense, which was the achilles heel of the Raiders in 2011, and cost them a playoff spot at the very least, should be improved with the departure of Chuck Bresnahan in addition to the arrival of a defensive minded HC in Dennis Allen; who’s work with the Denver D is widely considered more of a factor in Denver’s success than the contribution of Tim Tebow…despite any late game heroics he may have enjoyed. With all that taken into consideration, the 8-8 season the Raiders achieved ahould be vastly improved upon in 2012.”.
…or
“The Raiders will be hard pressed to improve upon their 8-8 record given the departure of veteran DC Chuck Bresnahan and the implementation of a new defensive scheme in 2012. The loss of Kamerion Wimbley and veteran CB Stanford Routt will only serve to make the Raiders 29th ranked defense even worse in 2012.
On offense, Carson Palmer is fading..despite coming on strong at the end of 2011, and no one knows if McFadden will even see the field in 2012.
The loss of Chaz Schilens and Kevin Boss will further hamper a somewhat effective offense.
With an inexperienced coaching staff and without the leadership of NFL legend Al Davis…2012 looks to be a season when the Raiders will be lucky to win more than 2 games.”
May 3rd, 2012 at 2:07 pm
I never quite understood the logic of drafting Houston in the 2nd round, than using him to “Beat up tight ends” on the end of the LOS.
Really, that’s what you use a 2nd rounder for? You can’t find a guy in the 6th or 7th round who can do that?
I would think an early 2nd rounder should be used to make an impact, but hey that is just me.
May 3rd, 2012 at 2:08 pm
I agree with post 396.
May 3rd, 2012 at 2:08 pm
2 games?????
LMAO at that one.
Haven’t we won in BOTH KC and Denver 5 years in a row?
May 3rd, 2012 at 2:09 pm
BLOG BRAHS, DWEEBS, GOOBS AND KRAPPYRAT
Huge shout out from the Official Boy Band of the Blog, 2 Kewl 4 Skool!
The grassroots write in campaign to get 2K4S to play the halftime show of the Raider’s home opener is going hella great
But we’re not booked yet, so keep those emails to Alameda coming
So you know, we’ve been washing, styling and gelling our pubes extra hard this week in anticipation. Plus we practiced for over 35 minutes last night, setting a new rehearsal record by over 20 minutes
2K4S is going to straight kill it at the O, word
Now all we gotta do is actually write some songs and music. I’ve got some sweet lyrics, but we’ve been practicing our moves to a drum machine and don’t even know if any of us can sing yet
But if that Mountain Dew Code Red sponsorship comes through, none of that will matter anyway
Keep up the good work and don’t forget to register for your Kewl Kidz Klub Kard so we can get our hands on your credit card #’s
FREE WEED UP IN THIS MOFO, SQWIZZLE
May 3rd, 2012 at 2:10 pm
-ALLEN: Here’s what I think, I think we’re going to take into account football character and off-field character. We want good guys on this team, all right?
Now, we’re not looking for a team full of choir boys. But we are looking for guys that are going to be dependable on the field and that we can also depend on off the field, that aren’t going to be involved in a lot of personal issues and a lot of personal trouble.
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Slow is on notice.
May 3rd, 2012 at 2:10 pm
Imagine the opposing QB having to guess where the opposing players are vs knowing exactly they will turn tails and run downfield.
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I honestly think it will take Rivers and some of the other players in our division a second to get used to it and will provide us with a slight advantage right out the box.
May 3rd, 2012 at 2:14 pm
Stopping a passing game is more important in todays game than stopping the run game to game. Look at the teams that win the SB. They are better pass defensive teams than run stopping teams.
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@Lefty
if that was true, Al Davis was WWWWAAAAAYYYYY ahead of the curve. He’s always built a defense from the outside-in. Back 4 always more of a priority than Front 7. As evidence by the free agents he pursued & draft picks he used. Also money he spent.
Result = teams run all over us and have no need to pass. control the clock, dominate TOP and keep our offense off the field. too many losses to count.
May 3rd, 2012 at 2:19 pm
JFB,
1 sec is 30% of the time it took from the snap to releasing the football on a 3 step drop. 1 second is an eternity between the snap and the release imho.
May 3rd, 2012 at 2:24 pm
Great article Jerry, well done.
May 3rd, 2012 at 2:24 pm
Yo, after a hard day macking on all you can eat soup, salad and breadsticks at Olive Garden, The Beeech Diggity is going to reward himself with a tanning session on the balcony
Cut out a little strip on my trunks right above my weiner so my pubes can get some natural bleaching
This should look great on stage, especially with some crazy strobe lights, holla
First gotta break for a massive duece, after all that Italian dressing this one will probably slide right out
May 3rd, 2012 at 2:26 pm
Stopping a passing game is more important in todays game than stopping the run game to game. Look at the teams that win the SB. They are better pass defensive teams than run stopping teams.
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OK, let’s assume this is true.
How do you think the Raiders will fare against the pass this year ?
Any stand out pass rusher ?
Confident in our CB situation ?
We’re all hoping and assuming that better scheming and coaching offers the prospect of improvement.
How realistic is this expectation ?
I know it’s easy to say the defense couldn’t get any worse than last year.
I’m not convinced that’s the case.
May 3rd, 2012 at 2:27 pm
All the DT that Reggie and DA are bringing in so far seem to be in the mold of a Tommy Kelly. Christo and Hamilton. Here is a vid of Hamilton, reminds me alot of Kelly.
http://www.raiders1.ninjagoro.com/blog/
May 3rd, 2012 at 2:27 pm
It doesn’t appears Reggie & Dennis are all that concerned about the “trend” in the NFL these days.
We hired Knapp as OC, the most run-oriented play caller of this decade. McFadden wasn’t traded. In fact, Reggie traded for Goodson. Routt & CJ37 out. Sheppard, Boyd & Eugene out. Rod Woodson & Kevin Ross out.
Bartell played in 1 game before the season ending neck injury. Spencer was a backup for SF. [nobody wanted either player] no DB’s drafted. 4 front 7 defensive players drafted. Tollefson added [4 or 5 teams interested in him]
May 3rd, 2012 at 2:31 pm
Heart, intelligence and creativity.
That is the key to our 2012 defense, and 3 majorly missing ingredients over the years.
Sheppard, Wimbley, Routt, CJ37, Rod Wood………….all easily replacable.
May 3rd, 2012 at 2:35 pm
How realistic is this expectation ?
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Very!
With the season on the line, we had a man affectionaly named “Slow” covering the most freakish athlete the NFL has ever seen at WR, 50 yards down the field.
Than we topped it off, by single covering the same man throughout the whole drive.
May 3rd, 2012 at 2:40 pm
Hot Shot #356 and RR #402 – nice posts.
May 3rd, 2012 at 2:52 pm
Great news, blog brahs
Just rubbed a little 5 Hour Energy into my pubes and they’ve quickly tanned to a rich brown hue
Which inspired my to smoke a huge doobie, get a sloppy BJ from this baked surfer chick who’s crashing on my bean bag, and write some dope Rasta Ganja lyrics
This one is called “Brunch with Bob (Marley)”, all about how we’re best buds in this world and the next
Hey Mon, table for 2, yo we ain’t fakin
Me and Bob Marley want some sausage and bacon
Eggs Benedict and waffles, yah we be jammin’
How ’bout another Mimosa and some fresh smoked salmon?
SHOUT OUT TO MY BROTHAS IN KINGSTON TOWN
May 3rd, 2012 at 2:56 pm
Where did this whole LA Football Lakers meme come from?
May 3rd, 2012 at 3:01 pm
Sheppard, Wimbley, Routt, CJ37, Rod Wood………….all easily replacable.
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I know Routt had a bad year. Way too many burns and penalties.
But there were also moments that showed he could be a playmaker. His pick against KC was one of the few game altering defensive plays the Raids had last year.
His athleticism and physicality aren’t going to be replaced so easily.
Wimbley gets bashed for only having an impact in the first SD game. While there is some credence to this – it must be noted that he DID have a huge impact that game. Anyone else currently on the roster that you feel good about getting to Rivers like Kam did that night ?
Think Wimbley was our best pass rusher, despite the inconsistency. He got plenty of pressures and I seem to recall an impact intercept and return against the Bears.
I wholeheartedly agree Lito and Rod W. are easily replaceable.
I think the departure of Routt and Wimbley is more significant than we’d like to believe.
Not convinced Wheeler and Bartell are the ‘easy replacements’ to fill their void.
May 3rd, 2012 at 3:05 pm
Jaguars released a cornerback, Drew Coleman. Might be worth checking into, although the team only has $50K in salary cap space.
May 3rd, 2012 at 3:05 pm
http://www.profootballweekly.com/2012/05/02/insider-cousins-could-be-steal-for-skins
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PFW is very entertaining! I hate the “unnamed scout” angle, but even they’re made up, these comments are all thought provoking.
May 3rd, 2012 at 3:07 pm
Benson using twitter to try to get in Raider Nation….
I hope Reggie doesn’t bite….Benson arrested 3 of last 4 years…
Goes against everything they claim to be building…
Just Sayin’
May 3rd, 2012 at 3:07 pm
I’m pretty sure the Raids will easily find a replacement for Slow in 2013.
Might even happen in 2012.
May 3rd, 2012 at 3:07 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 3:01 pm
Sheppard, Wimbley, Routt, CJ37, Rod Wood………….all easily replacable.
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I know Routt had a bad year. Way too many burns and penalties.
But there were also moments that showed he could be a playmaker. His pick against KC was one of the few game altering defensive plays the Raids had last year.
His athleticism and physicality aren’t going to be replaced so easily.
Wimbley gets bashed for only having an impact in the first SD game. While there is some credence to this – it must be noted that he DID have a huge impact that game. Anyone else currently on the roster that you feel good about getting to Rivers like Kam did that night ?
Think Wimbley was our best pass rusher, despite the inconsistency. He got plenty of pressures and I seem to recall an impact intercept and return against the Bears.
I wholeheartedly agree Lito and Rod W. are easily replaceable.
I think the departure of Routt and Wimbley is more significant than we’d like to believe.
Not convinced Wheeler and Bartell are the ‘easy replacements’ to fill their void.
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Agreed.
May 3rd, 2012 at 3:10 pm
http://www.profootballweekly.com/2012/05/02/pressure-rises-in-afc-west
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Perfect summation of the AFC West in 2012. Couldn’t have said it better myself.
May 3rd, 2012 at 3:10 pm
Wimbly was replaced by Burris ez and routte was decent but overpaid and the way bartell tackles and hits I think its an even exchange, plus with the emergence of dvd and chekwa well be ok. I like the Lee pickup too. No worries Raidernation if we can survive the loss of namdi we can live with routte gone .
May 3rd, 2012 at 3:13 pm
“http://www.profootballweekly.com/2012/05/02/pressure-rises-in-afc-west
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Perfect summation of the AFC West in 2012. Couldn’t have said it better myself.”
Must be a Jamarcus Russell come back into our division link to get Debo all excited.
May 3rd, 2012 at 3:13 pm
DEATHROW 55 Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 3:10 pm
Wimbly was replaced by Burris ez and routte was decent but overpaid and the way bartell tackles and hits I think its an even exchange, plus with the emergence of dvd and chekwa well be ok. I like the Lee pickup too. No worries Raidernation if we can survive the loss of namdi we can live with routte gone .
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Um, since when did we survive without Nnamdi?
May 3rd, 2012 at 3:13 pm
Burris already made me forget about Wimbly !!!!!!! Well draft a bad azz cb next yr if all fails.
May 3rd, 2012 at 3:15 pm
Raiderdeebo We were 8-8 with him and 8-8 with out him what the fugg u call that
May 3rd, 2012 at 3:21 pm
DEATHROW 55 Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 3:15 pm
Raiderdeebo We were 8-8 with him and 8-8 with out him what the fugg u call that
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I call that 8-8 team 10-6 or 11-5 with a few more stops. Wouldn’t you have loved to see Aso out there in the Detroit and SD games to end the season? I made the same mistake thinking we were fine without the guy, but our D didn’t survive sht!!
May 3rd, 2012 at 3:36 pm
Vegas Raider…..Pats don’t use a Nt?….How bout Buffalo? Bmore?How bout Pitt? SF? Miami? Jets?GB? Dallas? Houston? KC? How about SD? AZ is a 3-4 team think a NT isn’t useful? Dying out? Wrong aghain
FB dying out? Total lie again lol….do I need to mention the teams still using a FB? We running wco a purer version at that….you think knapp ain’t using a true FB? Lol…come on you’re wrong bruh
May 3rd, 2012 at 3:38 pm
R8eray…..nada big bruh…B@uce stay chillin…seeing ya Dodgers and Lakers making noise in Socal…..hope all is well….can’t wait to start season in august mayne
May 3rd, 2012 at 3:40 pm
Debo….nnamdi is gone…please don’t do the what if scenarios……we saw how well he played in philly….guy is getting up their in age anyway….and with that wack ass dline we still woulda been 8-8
May 3rd, 2012 at 3:48 pm
Damn shame in post 406…I actually agree with the old dude……realistic expectations with no fierce RDE or LOLB coming off the edge to harrass the Qb’s blinside or run stuffing DTs to stop us from giving up 150 yards a game and no good cbs to really stop dope WRs…….we need to be real with ourselves
May 3rd, 2012 at 3:55 pm
We have three HUGE defensive advantages over recent years:
1) We no longer have a defensive gameplan consisting, week in and week out, of 1970s-style man coverage with little blitzing.
2) We have defensive minds in Allen and Tarver who can create and utilize unique schemes to get the best out of our personnel.
3) We now have accountability. Penalty machines and toast factories will find themselves benched in short order.
May 3rd, 2012 at 4:01 pm
OAKLAND RAIDERS @RAIDERS
@MattLeinartQB to wear jersey 7, @thenastynate34 – 54, @MilesBurris – 56, @JbamaCriner82 – 84, @Sack_Religious – 91 Christo Bilukidi – 96
May 3rd, 2012 at 4:04 pm
Hurd now wears #78.
May 3rd, 2012 at 4:06 pm
What’s up there Method?
Asked a? earlier. What or who is “mayne ”
See people in here use it and I am clueless.
Help a brother out here please.
May 3rd, 2012 at 4:11 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 3:55 pm
We have three HUGE defensive advantages over recent years:
1) We no longer have a defensive gameplan consisting, week in and week out, of 1970s-style man coverage with little blitzing.
2) We have defensive minds in Allen and Tarver who can create and utilize unique schemes to get the best out of our personnel.
3) We now have accountability. Penalty machines and toast factories will find themselves benched in short order.
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Blah blah blah blah blah. Show me!
May 3rd, 2012 at 4:14 pm
<——-watching Bryce Harper and some team called the Nats.
I agree with Vegas. Great things happening in baseball but I doubt if there are 1,000 people there
May 3rd, 2012 at 4:26 pm
Asked a? earlier. What or who is “mayne ”
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Slang or derivative of “Man”
May 3rd, 2012 at 4:33 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 3:07 pm
I’m pretty sure the Raids will easily find a replacement for Slow in 2013.
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Burris may be that guy
May 3rd, 2012 at 4:35 pm
B,
Didn’t say there was ZERO use for a NT, just the role is seemingly being diminshed more and more each growing year.
I am much more worried, like you, about an edge speed rusher, and also some quality DB’s, than some fat slug, 15 play a game NT.
Could we use one? Absolutely. Is it a dire need? Not IMO, or the staff’s it seems.
May 3rd, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Thanks Len.
Must be a west coast thing
never heard it here on the east coast. lol.
May 3rd, 2012 at 4:41 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 4:35 pm
B,
Didn’t say there was ZERO use for a NT, just the role is seemingly being diminshed more and more each growing year.
I am much more worried, like you, about an edge speed rusher, and also some quality DB’s, than some fat slug, 15 play a game NT.
Could we use one? Absolutely. Is it a dire need? Not IMO, or the staff’s it seems.
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What up JFB?
Agree. I want the fat slug in my tool box.
I have to have the unblockable beast of the edge.
May 3rd, 2012 at 4:43 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 4:11 pm
Blah blah blah blah blah. Show me!
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Says the person who’s waiting for the “JaMarcus Russell bidding war” (still can’t type that without chuckling) to start…
May 3rd, 2012 at 4:43 pm
R8ER MIKE Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Thanks Len.
Must be a west coast thing
never heard it here on the east coast. lol.
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That’s how it is. lol
Regional shiiite.
May 3rd, 2012 at 4:45 pm
That’s because the Nats play in D.C.
not much of a baseball town. Unless they are winning.
A 1000 people sounds like for them!! lol lol
May 3rd, 2012 at 4:47 pm
LA KING FANS STAND UP N REPRESENT
Yo, the Silver & Black on Ice return to Staples tonight and your boy Beeeech Diggity will be getting wizzle in the Lexus luxury box
Pre party at Trader Vics in Nokia Live, stop off at Spearmint Rhino for a few free hand jiggidies, smoke out in the limo, then party serious on major margs
Tonight we’re gonna “Make the Blues Lose” (patent pending) and go up 3-0 in the series
Picking out jock straps and condoms now, probably got with classic XXXL and classic black Magnums for her pleasure
May 3rd, 2012 at 4:53 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 4:11 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 3:55 pm
We have three HUGE defensive advantages over recent years:
1) We no longer have a defensive gameplan consisting, week in and week out, of 1970s-style man coverage with little blitzing.
2) We have defensive minds in Allen and Tarver who can create and utilize unique schemes to get the best out of our personnel.
3) We now have accountability. Penalty machines and toast factories will find themselves benched in short order.
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Blah blah blah blah blah. Show me!
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As far as the coaching goes, I am more elated that we are going to have new offensive play callers. When I look at a game last year like the one versus the Chicago Bears, I see Hue’s ineffectiveness in the red zone. Janikosky had six, SIX, FG’s in that game. The defense actually played fairly well. I look forward to seeing an offense that is limited by Jackson’s weak play calling.
May 3rd, 2012 at 4:54 pm
Move Big Wang to NT hes a huge guy.That is if he could tackle.
May 3rd, 2012 at 4:54 pm
I look forward to seeing an offense that is limited by Jackson’s weak play calling.
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Sorry, is NOT limited, by Jackson.
May 3rd, 2012 at 4:55 pm
Hot Shot Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 4:54 pm
Move Big Wang to NT hes a huge guy.That is if he could tackle.
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May 3rd, 2012 at 4:56 pm
As far as the coaching goes, I am more elated that we are going to have new offensive play callers. When I look at a game last year like the one versus the Chicago Bears, I see Hue’s ineffectiveness in the red zone. Janikosky had six, SIX, FG’s in that game. The defense actually played fairly well. I look forward to seeing an offense that is limited by Jackson’s weak play calling.
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Hue seemed allergic to using the TE.
I liked some of the stuff he dialed up, but after the loss of DMAC, he wasn’t able to adjust to the personnel at hand. Marcell Reeece should have been a much larger part of the mix, imo
May 3rd, 2012 at 5:00 pm
RaiderLen Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 4:56 pm
I liked some of the stuff he dialed up, but after the loss of DMAC, he wasn’t able to adjust to the personnel at hand. Marcell Reeece should have been a much larger part of the mix, imo
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Another part of the problem was Michael Bush. When we needed him to carry the load like the feature back he thinks he is, he came up very, very small.
May 3rd, 2012 at 5:02 pm
JFB,
Young B is trying to keep that old Raider D alive and kickin in Davis’ memory.
He doesn’t want to hear about 2 and 3 man lines with different LB looks.
He thinks its. Going to be the same ole Raider playbook.
May 3rd, 2012 at 5:03 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 5:00 pm
RaiderLen Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 4:56 pm
I liked some of the stuff he dialed up, but after the loss of DMAC, he wasn’t able to adjust to the personnel at hand. Marcell Reeece should have been a much larger part of the mix, imo
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Another part of the problem was Michael Bush. When we needed him to carry the load like the feature back he thinks he is, he came up very, very small.
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100%. Bush had the stage all to Himself and blew it.
Twinkle Toes off to Chicago.
I wonder how that act will play there.
May 3rd, 2012 at 5:06 pm
I’ll be willing to bet 50k that Junior Seau was on Psychiatric antidepresent “medication”.
It’s a trend now. It was always a violent sport. Never had psychiatric “advice” in the sport until fairly recently. Now suddenly everyone is experiencing “trauma” from the sport. And, for the first time, those who are taking these unproven drugs are actually becoming suicidal just like the label warns about.
May 3rd, 2012 at 5:07 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 4:54 pm
I look forward to seeing an offense that is limited by Jackson’s weak play calling.
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Sorry, is NOT limited, by Jackson.
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Ha ha ha! Knapp the creative play caller you mean?
May 3rd, 2012 at 5:08 pm
Bush was twinkle toes like Fred Flintstone.
May 3rd, 2012 at 5:09 pm
J Hill Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 5:02 pm
JFB,
Young B is trying to keep that old Raider D alive and kickin in Davis’ memory.
He doesn’t want to hear about 2 and 3 man lines with different LB looks.
He thinks its. Going to be the same ole Raider playbook.
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I’d like nothing more than for the “Old ways” to be able to Kick Ass and take names..but it’s not reality in today’s NFL.
Can’t wait to see what DA and Tarver dial up.
Schemes?….Nice!
May 3rd, 2012 at 5:10 pm
Hot Shot Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 5:08 pm
Bush was twinkle toes like Fred Flintstone.
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Used to imitate Fred at the bowling alley as a kid.
May 3rd, 2012 at 5:11 pm
guest123 Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 6:21 am
LMAO at TK as NT. Allen’s smoking some funny sht.
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If TK’s the NT in August be very, very concerned.
May 3rd, 2012 at 5:12 pm
454.raiderzmaverick Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 5:06 pm
I’ll be willing to bet 50k that Junior Seau was on Psychiatric antidepresent “medication”.
It’s a trend now. It was always a violent sport. Never had psychiatric “advice” in the sport until fairly recently. Now suddenly everyone is experiencing “trauma” from the sport. And, for the first time, those who are taking these unproven drugs are actually becoming suicidal just like the label warns about.
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So the label on a drug designed to prevent you from being depressed, has a warning that it may cause you to wanna commit suicide?
Geez.
May 3rd, 2012 at 5:14 pm
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Ha ha ha! Knapp the creative play caller you mean?
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No. Play calling by committee between Knapp, Saunders, DeFillipo, Palmer and Leinert.
May 3rd, 2012 at 5:15 pm
Government approved pharmiceuticals should come with a warning label. “This crap will kill you!”
May 3rd, 2012 at 5:18 pm
Raidernationdave Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 5:11 pm
guest123 Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 6:21 am
LMAO at TK as NT. Allen’s smoking some funny sht.
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If TK’s the NT in August be very, very concerned.
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It’s doable.
DA says to Tommy…”Tommy, I need you to get back on the chilllea dog “diet”.
TK…Yesss!
DA…when you get to 350 I’m gonna park you over the Center in the 3-4 and all you have to do is hold your ground. No running, no down field pursuit.
DA…can you eat up food AND space?
TK…Ya coach. I’ll do it for the chillea dogs, and the Team.
May 3rd, 2012 at 5:18 pm
The bucs will have a good pass Rusher.He will run over everyone with his wheel chair and run over QBs.But it is a nice thing they did for that kid.
May 3rd, 2012 at 5:18 pm
437.RaiderLen Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 4:26 pm
Asked a? earlier. What or who is “mayne ”
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Slang or derivative of “Man”
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Popularized in the movie “Scarface” due to its frequent use by Tony Montana’s erstwhile partner “Manny” and occasionally by Mr. Montana himself.
Right?
May 3rd, 2012 at 5:19 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 5:12 pm
454.raiderzmaverick Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 5:06 pm
I’ll be willing to bet 50k that Junior Seau was on Psychiatric antidepresent “medication”.
It’s a trend now. It was always a violent sport. Never had psychiatric “advice” in the sport until fairly recently. Now suddenly everyone is experiencing “trauma” from the sport. And, for the first time, those who are taking these unproven drugs are actually becoming suicidal just like the label warns about.
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So the label on a drug designed to prevent you from being depressed, has a warning that it may cause you to wanna commit suicide?
Geez.
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Yup, and people taking it about 8-10x more actually do. Notice suicide rates etc. are going up instead of down with more people on the medications?
May 3rd, 2012 at 5:22 pm
Post 458 I bet he did.LOL!!!
May 3rd, 2012 at 5:23 pm
Government should come with a warning label: “Do what we say or you will be killed.” Of course even if you do what they say, you will be killed anyway.
May 3rd, 2012 at 5:24 pm
Im more concerned with our 3rd down defense than Tommy Kelly at DT
May 3rd, 2012 at 5:25 pm
Government don,t care.Its all about the money.
May 3rd, 2012 at 5:26 pm
J Hill Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 5:24 pm
Im more concerned with our 3rd down defense than Tommy Kelly at DT
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Word.
It’s been a problem for years.
May 3rd, 2012 at 5:27 pm
Imagine a world without government, war, taxes and politicians.
Heaven on earth!
May 3rd, 2012 at 5:28 pm
DK Johnny, just look into the statistics. Places with major increase of “antidepressent” medication has major increases of suicides and things like these “mass shootings”.
Never heard about all these school shootings 20 years ago when there were hardely any teens on psychological drugs. Now each and every one of them is taking these mind-altering drugs.
Why is the whole world suddenly “mentally unbalanced”? We’re more advanced not less. Why is there so much more “stress” in the world with advanced transport, 9-5 jobs, 3 coffee breaks etc.
May 3rd, 2012 at 5:29 pm
Twocents Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 5:27 pm
Imagine a world without government, war, taxes and politicians.
Heaven on earth!
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Assuming all of the inhabitants were pacifists.
Good luck with that.
May 3rd, 2012 at 5:30 pm
Twocents= Jon Lennon? Lol
May 3rd, 2012 at 5:32 pm
Oh now….the Real Lensanity has started…..Len!
May 3rd, 2012 at 5:32 pm
Pacifist that respect property rights and defend them. Is that really that hard to grasp?
May 3rd, 2012 at 5:32 pm
End the Fed and abolish Taxes and wants to live By the constitution Ron Paul has my vote for 2012.
May 3rd, 2012 at 5:35 pm
Hot Shot, me too.
May 3rd, 2012 at 5:36 pm
Twocents Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 5:32 pm
Pacifist that respect property rights and defend them. Is that really that hard to grasp?
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No grasping here.
You are leaving out the fact that some persons are greedy.
Greed is not pacifist.
May 3rd, 2012 at 5:38 pm
Jhill…not true….while I do favor 4 man fronts I didn’t dig the personnel that Al had on our dline nor the LBs…..I don’t mind something new granted we have the guys for it….and we know Kelly ain’t it….its bad enough we keeping seymour….we had a different playbook as soon as Al died so what is it you are saying bruh?
Funny you not worry bout Tommy Kelly and more about 3rd down….how will you feel when a team drives on us for a TD in 6 plays with no rrd down to speak of? Football is 4 downs bruh
May 3rd, 2012 at 5:38 pm
I wonder when football first started with the leather helmets if those guys after they retired killed their selves due to brain injuries.
May 3rd, 2012 at 5:40 pm
Greedy, incompetent people get jobs with the government. Without government, greedy corporations would be at the mercy of the consumer.
May 3rd, 2012 at 5:40 pm
Vegas I beg ya to tell me how their role diminishes in a 3-4 at NT…..I don’t see your angle….but we eye to eye on the blinside of qb….that has to be upgraded if we wanna be a title team…..I felt this is one of the things that Al neglected for so long
May 3rd, 2012 at 5:45 pm
#472 – I always thought heaven had rules, perhaps even different levels of power and authority, such as the choirs of angels and such. Seems to me this is government….
May 3rd, 2012 at 5:46 pm
RaiderLen, your rulers are not greedy? They produce nothing but manage to make themselves rich. Wake up.
May 3rd, 2012 at 5:47 pm
So we have discussed enough in depth about about the DT/NT spot….what about our WR unit?
I’m very curious to see what sort of routes will be the primary basis for our offense. With Palmer’s arm do you do a bunch of short routes and are our WRs as a unit capable of such?
DHB,Moore,Ford,Murphy and rookie Criner seem to be top 5 for now. Judging by my eye in that group I only see Criner as a real legit poss wr. Could be wrong but I can’t see the other guys as such. But I do believe as far as blocking goes in the run game I think we should be very solid
May 3rd, 2012 at 5:51 pm
Method, John Lennon here. Are you still laughing? Where do you stand?
May 3rd, 2012 at 5:52 pm
@ # Hot Shot Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 1:01 pm
Damn it hate my key board is missing a y button Have to copy and paste one.I forget when I copy something to go back and copy a y.Time for a new Laptop!!!
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plug a working keyboard into the jack in your laptop
May 3rd, 2012 at 5:57 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 5:32 pm
Oh now….the Real Lensanity has started…..Len!
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What is up B!
May 3rd, 2012 at 5:57 pm
Just got home. Was at the office.
May 3rd, 2012 at 6:01 pm
There used to be a bar in SF called “The Office”. You could tell your wife that you were still at the office.
May 3rd, 2012 at 6:04 pm
Twocents Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 6:01 pm
There used to be a bar in SF called “The Office”. You could tell your wife that you were still at the office.
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LOL, there was one in Fremont as well.
It’s now called Mojos and is owned by the older brother of a guy I went to school with.
May 3rd, 2012 at 6:12 pm
Sorry, I can’t tell you exactly why the role of NT, or run stuffing DT, in the NFL, is diminished, but the decision makers in the NFL tell me that–see recent NFL draft, NFL DL personnel, free agent signings, tell me it is diminished.
Most blog Semi’s can’t tell either, because we’ve been indoctrinated in a 40 year old defensive philosophy coming down from AD to puppet defensive coordinators.
One person who can tell us I think is Dennis Allen. Very cutting edge on NFL defensive schemes and personnel needed to implement them.
I usually think Tim Kawakami is an inflammatory schmuck but that interview he did with Dennis Allen is very good. Best thing to do is read it
One thing he does say is that the multiple defense he will run will include a few versatile personnel that can play different positions. That includes coming out of the huddle and playing in a different position than the offense expects (something Raider Nation is unfamiliar with).
Also there will be a lot of defensive movement before the snap. The first DL to line up at NT may not be the NT at the time the ball is snapped. Or whatever
Also, you may note that the primary NT in Denver’s 4-3 hybrid last year, Broderick Bunkley, did not always sit at the line and eat up blockers. He was also used on the move, penetrating gaps, etc. Formerly a 1st round disappointment, he had a career year in his first year under Allen last year.
# Method To My Madness Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 5:40 pm
Vegas I beg ya to tell me how their role diminishes in a 3-4 at NT…..I don’t see your angle….but we eye to eye on the blinside of qb….that has to be upgraded if we wanna be a title team…..I felt this is one of the things that Al neglected for so long
May 3rd, 2012 at 6:12 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 5:47 pm
So we have discussed enough in depth about about the DT/NT spot….what about our WR unit?
I’m very curious to see what sort of routes will be the primary basis for our offense. With Palmer’s arm do you do a bunch of short routes and are our WRs as a unit capable of such?
DHB,Moore,Ford,Murphy and rookie Criner seem to be top 5 for now. Judging by my eye in that group I only see Criner as a real legit poss wr. Could be wrong but I can’t see the other guys as such. But I do believe as far as blocking goes in the run game I think we should be very solid
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I think the run game will be solid as well.
I like lil Wiz moving to C. Like Breisel.
Criner fits the bill as the Possession receiver.
Lots of weapons on the O. Knapp needs to fine tune the mix for every game.
May 3rd, 2012 at 6:13 pm
Thanks alzadoX Forgot about that.
May 3rd, 2012 at 6:16 pm
Props to Semi Bob Marley for informative posts yesterday that got forgotten due to Seau story etc.
Heard there is a great new movie out about the original Bob Marley
May 3rd, 2012 at 6:26 pm
Have you guys seen Kate Upton do the Cat Daddy?
*MUST SEE VIDEO
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You guys could thank me later!
May 3rd, 2012 at 6:27 pm
RaiderLen, haha. You mentioned Mojos, when the Shuttle was closed down in UC, many started going to Mojos, some good times, for sure.I still say Im at Mojos, goin have one mo, be home soon.
May 3rd, 2012 at 6:30 pm
Re: “Who is going to be the last Al Davis player left on the team?”
first of all, I don’t see the new Reggime as mindlessly dumping “Al Davis guys”. It seems the new Reggime is pretty circumspect when making personnel decisions so far, and there has been a really good reason for all of the guys let go. Reggie said he was going to straighten out the problem with out of whack contracts, and he has, to the extent Raiders can withstand salary cap acceleration hits.
Compare Raiders alleged “bloodletting” to “super bowl contender” Texans. And they don’t even have a new coach, regime, or 10 year history of never finishing above 8-8. In his later years, Al Davis thought almost any player he paid could do no wrong.
The only players on the team that were NOT Al Davis players when the new Reggime took over were CP3, Houshmandzadeh, Curry, and a few of the late season/ practice squad additions. So anyone the new Reggime let go was almost certain to be an “Al Davis player”
That said, the most likely of the Al Davis players to stick around a long time:
1. Jared Veldheer. Top flight Left tackles don’t move much
2. Stefen Wisniewski. If his uncle stays, he’ll stay. If his uncle leaves, he’ll stay to prove he doesn’t need his uncle to succeed. He can play 3 positions too. Don’t expect him to leave soon.
May 3rd, 2012 at 6:34 pm
I agree on post 500 Wiz or Velvadeer.Those guys will be around a awhile.
May 3rd, 2012 at 6:35 pm
RaiderLen Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 5:29 pm
Twocents Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 5:27 pm
Imagine a world without government, war, taxes and politicians.
Heaven on earth!
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Assuming all of the inhabitants were pacifists.
Good luck with that.
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Exactly. You can go to that place right now. It’s called the Sudan.
May 3rd, 2012 at 6:37 pm
d To My Madness Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 5:38 pm
Jhill…not true….while I do favor 4 man fronts I didn’t dig the personnel that Al had on our dline nor the LBs…..I don’t mind something new granted we have the guys for it….and we know Kelly ain’t it….its bad enough we keeping seymour….we had a different playbook as soon as Al died so what is it you are saying bruh?
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Bri, you’re take on the FB and the NT are must read for football fans. If you want to know how the 1966 Green Bay Packers won.
May 3rd, 2012 at 6:43 pm
Seymour, you can’t be serious. You are saying that the Sudan lacks a totaltarian regime?
May 3rd, 2012 at 6:48 pm
Twocents Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 6:43 pm
Seymour, you can’t be serious. You are saying that the Sudan lacks a totaltarian regime?
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You are thinking about South Sudan.
May 3rd, 2012 at 6:52 pm
In a survey of 650 chief executives from across the country, the state of California has been named the worst state in the country for business for the 8th consecutive year. The survey by Chief Executive magazine was based on states’ business taxation and regulation, workforce quality, and living environment.
May 3rd, 2012 at 6:54 pm
What is a “traditional” fullback anyway. It seems when most people talk about that, they talk about one of these pumped up “lead blocking specialists” who are so stiff and tightly wound that they can’t even adjust in space and belly flop whiff and miss their blocks on a moving target as often as they blow up the defender. They can’t run worth a damn and they usually can’t catch a cold. They were around from the 1990s thru a few still left. How traditional are they?
10 years ago the traditional FB was like Larry Centers a guy who couldn’t run too well from scrimmage except for short yardage but caught like 100 passes a year.
in the 1970s-80s we had a traditional FB named Mark van Eeghen who could run inside for short yardage, catch, and block like hell.
in the early-mid 1970s we had a “traditional FB” named Marv Hubbard who could run over DLs, block, fumble, and “run the league’s most humorous pass routes” but not catch passes
in the late 60s early 70s we had a “traditional FB” named Hewritt Dixon who was a converted TE slowish but athletic great receiver who could pound the ball on the ground and block
now we have “new weapon” FB Marcel Reece who can run some, is a mismatch weapon who makes the great catch and run downfield, is the only lead blocker fast enough to get out in front of impatient D-Mac but not a very physical blocker, and still hasn’t learned how to help a QB who’s under pressure out as a receiver. Many expect that the new coaching staff will coach him up on being more “QB friendly” he’ll start catching hella passes and become the “traditional FB of the future”
At least that’s what we hope
May 3rd, 2012 at 6:55 pm
Well Seymour, what is your plan for saving them? Let’s send a bunch of drones over there and bomb them into Democracy.
May 3rd, 2012 at 6:56 pm
Seymour, you save the world like old people fck.
May 3rd, 2012 at 6:58 pm
RaiderMaverick,
I don’t doubt you I just find it weird that they would warn you about suicidal thoughts for taking something that’s designed to alleviate stuff like that.
It’s like all the disclaimers for Celebrex and stuff like that…with all the side effects it seems it should scare anyone away.
But “don’t forget to ask your doctor”.
May 3rd, 2012 at 6:59 pm
Two cents There is one person on earth that believes what you believe. I think they called him the unabomber.
May 3rd, 2012 at 6:59 pm
Seymour, I know I have said this before, but you are living off your connection to the state, like a good Nazi. You do not give a damn about freedom or liberty, just so long as you get your paycheck. May you rot in hell.
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:01 pm
Twocents Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 6:55 pm
Well Seymour, what is your plan for saving them? Let’s send a bunch of drones over there and bomb them into Democracy.
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Actually twocents, most people on the left don’t want our military used for these missions only in obvious national defense. You are confusing me and the left with yourself and the right. Which means you are incredibly confused.
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:06 pm
Oakland business leaders step up to keep A’s in Oakland – Inside Bay Area
http://www.insidebayarea.com
Clorox CEO Don Knauss says corporate Oakland wants to work with John Fisher and Lew Wolff but there are investors ready to buy the As.
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:07 pm
Twocents you can’t argue, you just spew slogans, and you rant and rave. Do the names Himler, Eichmann, and Rudolf Hess mean anything to you? They should.
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:09 pm
Wolff and Fischer should sell the A’s. They have little choice. They have done a terrible job managing the franchise and have painted themselves into a corner. It’s a shame the franchise is worth a ton more than when they bought it even with their incredible mismanagement.
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:13 pm
The pisses me off Because every time they get a good player they always trade them.I never know whos on the team so I quit watching them.
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:14 pm
The As
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:14 pm
Seymour, Himler, Eichmann and Rudolf Hess were statist, just like you. You make no sense. Have you invented a benevolent state?
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:16 pm
Man the Knicks blow.
You telling me that was a playoff team? JR Smith running the point, lol, with Novack at the 4?
I love hoops, but man the NBA does not make it easy sometimes.
That was painful to watch!!!
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:18 pm
For you A’s guys, I was watching my Giants choke again today, when some big dude named Webb came in from the Marlins.
6′4, 250, throws 96 with some wicked action.
With Kuiper adding after a batter or two “the A’s gave up on Webb a few years ago…..and I am not sure why”.
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:20 pm
The idea of a traditional FB is a matter of opinion as you state. Before Al Davis started utilizing the FB in the passing game he was just a blocking back an extra OG in the Backfield. But Mr Davis started swinging him out into the flat and running him down the seam of the defense and throwing to him. It took a decade before defenses could stop it. Hewritt Dixon, Marv Hubbard and Mark Van Eeghan were used similar to how Hue used Reece. Except he actually flanked Reece out on DB’s a mismatch that was devastating. Reece not being your typical meathead is of the old Al Davis mold which is prominent feature in the WCO as well the TE which started in the early 70’s. The old AFL used the TE ’s more than the established NFLguys like Ozzie Newsom and many others were tough matchups. Because they ran really well like Raymond Chester they had to put safeties on them. Which were too small LB’s too slow. A David Ausberry can be a huge advantage in the middle of a defense. Look at the kid the 49ers have running a 4.4 40 @245lbs. no one can cover him. The same can be true with Ausberry. If you put DA at TE and Reece at FB with DMC or TJ at HB it’s impossible to stop because of the matchup issue. There aren’t enough Patrick Willis types in the league to handle that.
If DHB, Moore, Ford, Murphy and Co. stay healthy this team can put up 24 pts. by halftime. Then it’s a matter of stopping the opponent. It’s not rocket science but it has an aeronautic effect. Speed is a commodity you cannot substitute you have to match speed with speed and if you can’t it’s 6 pts…………period
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:22 pm
My gut tells me that Aaron Curry’s best position is “move” ILB in a 3-4. Strong indicator to my gut: he’s a fast reacting aggressive instinct player who is better when the play is in front of him. I think he can improve as a pass defender at least to the point where he’s competent. Note: he was a bust at SSLB on Seahawks. However, some have questioned whether they used him correctly.
Re: MM34 playing some LB, Allen did use a smaller guy, Wesley Woodyard, as a “nickel cover” LB in Denver, at least that is my understanding. I have no idea how the two compare. MM34 didn’t impress when lined up at LB for us in the past, but consider the coaching.
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:31 pm
Twocents Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:14 pm
Seymour, Himler, Eichmann and Rudolf Hess were statist, just like you. You make no sense. Have you invented a benevolent state?
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Yes, and they spewed simple slogans so simple minded individuals would follow them off a cliff into an abyss. Sounds like you doesn’t it?
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:33 pm
I was watching WWE wrestling.That Wrestler Kofi Kingston would make one hell of a WR in the NFL.Hes fast good size and he can jump like no other.If he can catch that guy would be a dangerous WR.
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:34 pm
#523 Aaron Curry came in and played well for us the last half of the season. Mitchell did not. Bresnahan was using MM to spy on running Q’s. He really wasn’t even good at that. How can you not tackle a QB if you are a safety?
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:34 pm
Guys I know the DC was garbage no argument here. But we also had a ton of injuries he had to deal with and that changes the dynamics of any team. Injuries are the biggest factor in who ultimately wins, because it doesn’t matter what kind of team you have if the key components are in the tub instead of on the field.
When you lose guys like Shonasty and his backup and lose McClains backup before the season starts. Then the safety is playing hurt and the corners are hurt and the MLB is playing hurt you cannot dismiss that and say we have no talent. Not to mention Seymour was playing hurt. Playing MLB in this league on two legs is extremely tough now try it on one leg. We lost 3 corners all at the same time and a safety and the depth in the front7. THat will affect any team I don’t care how talented they are.
The team that stays the healthiest is always almongst the best in the league year in year out. But it is the most underemphasized factor in sports. Look what happened when Peyton went down as well as Cutler. Injuries weigh heavily in the final analysis.
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:38 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 6:58 pm
RaiderMaverick,
I don’t doubt you I just find it weird that they would warn you about suicidal thoughts for taking something that’s designed to alleviate stuff like that.
It’s like all the disclaimers for Celebrex and stuff like that…with all the side effects it seems it should scare anyone away.
But “don’t forget to ask your doctor”.
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Yeah, at least if it were a valid form of therapy you’d think there would be tests to see which drug correct the right “imbalance”.
I mean each one supposedly “treats” a specific chemical imbalance.
But, they don’t even have a medical test to see any chemical imbalance which they claim to be the cause of these “depressions” etc.
If it were the case, don’t you think they’d take a sample and see “aah, you have too little of xy chemical in your brain”. We’ll balance it with a little Fryax.
The fact being that these drugs haven’t cured a single person of their imbalances, and have had on many a negative side-effect. With all the money going into the pharmecudical industry, you’d think they could find something workable.
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:39 pm
Seymour, you are so arrogant and such a statist that I guess you are employed as a postal worker, school administrator or some low level bureaucrat whose only goal is to make life miserable for ordinary people.
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:40 pm
priesttj Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:34 pm
Guys I know the DC was garbage no argument here. But we also had a ton of injuries he had to deal with and that changes the dynamics of any team. Injuries are the biggest factor in who ultimately wins, because it doesn’t matter what kind of team you have if the key components are in the tub instead of on the field.
When you lose guys like Shonasty and his backup and lose McClains backup before the season starts. Then the safety is playing hurt and the corners are hurt and the MLB is playing hurt you cannot dismiss that and say we have no talent. Not to mention Seymour was playing hurt. Playing MLB in this league on two legs is extremely tough now try it on one leg. We lost 3 corners all at the same time and a safety and the depth in the front7. THat will affect any team I don’t care how talented they are.
The team that stays the healthiest is always almongst the best in the league year in year out. But it is the most underemphasized factor in sports. Look what happened when Peyton went down as well as Cutler. Injuries weigh heavily in the final analysis.
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Priesttj, we had just as many injuries on offense, but still managed to maintain a pretty solid offense.
Our starting QB, RB and top two WRs were out much of the year. Our starting TE also.
Our Defensive leadership and planning was just horrible.
If we brought in someone descent to coach the defense last year I’m sure we coudl’ve adapted and made the playoffs.
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:40 pm
Injuires; The 49ers lost their starting PR in Ginn and it cost them a SB birth.
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:41 pm
priesttj Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:20 pm
The idea of a traditional FB is a matter of opinion as you state. Before Al Davis started utilizing the FB in the passing game he was just a blocking back an extra OG in the Backfield.
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Al Davis in his younger days was very innovative, but invent the “Non-meathead” FB–give me a break
Jim Brown, FB Browns late 50-s mid 60s, awesome athleticism and great speed esp. for his size, dominant runner, good receiver, criticized for not blocking. Before my time, but that’s his rep. All these guys were before my time and before Hewritt Dixon’s prime
Jim Taylor, FB 1960s Packers (Hornung was HB) rep as very tough runner and blocker + receiver; one year ran for over 1400 yards in a 12 game season I believe
Marion Motley, 1950s FB-MLB Cleveland Browns reputedly a great athlete with great speed for his size run block catch tackle you name it. Still holds NFL record 5.7 yards per carry in career. Meathead my ass
Bronko Nagurski 1930s Bears extreme power runner and blocker, LB on D, returned during WWII as OT
etc etc. all before AD came to the Raiders
also note that Marv Hubbard was nearly as big as the DL he ran over. In the 1970s most DTs 245-290 lbs, typical around 265; DE 230-280 lbs, typical 245-260 range Hubbard 240 lbs and used lineman’s shoulder pads. Anyway, he couldn’t get any separation as a receiver and was rarely thrown to–few catches. Could fit “meathead” description. He was one of my favorite players very predictable and one dimensional though as pure inside power runner. Similar to Larry Csonka but Marv fumbled more often unfortunately. Al Davis tried to trade him for young John Riggins but Jets wouldn’t go for it
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:43 pm
I think MM is scared he will get flagged hitting people like he use to.These rules make it hard for these players to go all out and go 100% is slows them down and they second guess their selves so they tend to mess up more.Its has an effect on young players coming into the league but this year is MM last chance probably to prove him self.
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:43 pm
Seymour Pension, at the expense of the poor slobs that pay taxes.
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:43 pm
BHP,
What do you think of Criner and Burris (my fav picks this draft)?
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:43 pm
If we had those players we may have been able to score 30+ pts. a game. Taking a lot of pressure off the defense. Injuries impact the game tremendously
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:44 pm
twocents do you live in a unabomber style cabin? Writing a 40,000 word unabomber style manifesto? That no one will read?
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:44 pm
# Seymour Bush Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:34 pm
#523 Aaron Curry came in and played well for us the last half of the season. Mitchell did not. Bresnahan was using MM to spy on running Q’s. He really wasn’t even good at that. How can you not tackle a QB if you are a safety?
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agree. MM34 hasn’t shown he can do much more than cover the TE and/or blow coverages, and play decent but unspectacular kick coverage
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:46 pm
Why aren’t you a marxist two cents? Marx advocated the withering away of the state? Problem is you adhere to right wing idiocy.
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:46 pm
if we had a healthy DMC teh last game sof the year I think we win that division going away…………period
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:46 pm
postal worker, school administrator or some low level bureaucrat whose only goal is to make life miserable for ordinary people.
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Don’t forget the DMV.
LMAO
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:46 pm
The last 5 games of the year***
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:47 pm
Your “public servants” demand more than they are worth even though they do not serve the public and they are worth nothing. Right Seymour Bush? Even your handle suggest what you really want.
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:49 pm
What happend to the Raider tradition of great TE’s?
Cannon, Moore, Casper, Chester, and Christensen.
This is a tradition McK needs to bring back!
I can not name a TE after TC in the 80’s. The guy two years ago was looking good….but he left. I can not remember his name either.
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:51 pm
Criner is a guy who helps balance the WR corp. Nothing more….Burris has to be utilized right. He’s a guy who will struggle in coverage IMO but you can use him similar to Terrrell Suggs. Simplify the game for Burris send him 80% of the time make them check it down. It’s easy to see we will go with the pressure packages try to speed up the clock for QB’s.
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:51 pm
Had miller and he was a good TE but got rid of him.
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:52 pm
Seymour State, You are deluded, Marxism, centrally plannig and controlling production by a bunch of state workers, like you, is insanity.
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:52 pm
im of the opinion that Burris will be a nickel pass rusher at first … and a gunner type on special teams …
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:53 pm
Twocents is a complete dupe of the right wing. That’s it twocents, if you want to vilify someone in America vilify the teachers cashing those fat teacher paychecks. Man, yesterday, I saw this 29 year old teacher driving a brand new Maserati on her way to cash her paycheck. And fukk the firemen. What have THEY done for us lately?
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:54 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:46 pm
Why aren’t you a marxist two cents? Marx advocated the withering away of the state? Problem is you adhere to right wing idiocy.
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Marx advocated the withering away of the state? Where did you get that? The income tax, inheritance tax etc. are as marxist as you can get. Did you ever read Das Kapital?
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:54 pm
Twocents Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 5:23 pm
Government should come with a warning label: “Do what we say or you will be killed.” Of course even if you do what they say, you will be killed anyway.
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Maybe you can find another blog for your paranoia fantasies?
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:55 pm
BHP,
I appreciate your opinion.
I agree with you about Burris, and he should improve his coverage skills with good coaching.
I think Criner will be a starter in this league. The kid catches everything in his radius/ zone. He lacks speed, but he makes up for it with size, body control, and great hands.
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:56 pm
Can any of you experts define the word “Marxism” you throw around so much? And, give an example of it here?
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:57 pm
Seymour, read carefully you ignorant fool, I said school administrators.
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:58 pm
UNCLE TOOZ Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:49 pm
What happend to the Raider tradition of great TE’s?
Cannon, Casper, Chester, and Christensen.
This is a tradition McK needs to bring back!
I can not name a TE after TC in the 80’s. The guy two years ago was looking good….but he left. I can not remember his name either.
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We just need to bring in a TE with a “C” last name…I’m sure they’ll become successful…
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:58 pm
Politics always create arguments LOL!!!!
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:00 pm
544.
it will come, just not this year unless they get lucky with Ausberry, Hardy, Gordon… or on a very, very longshot… Brandon Myers.
the system Knapp runs requires it
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:01 pm
Raider O I’m not saying he wont start I don’t know. I’m just telling you he has no outstanding qualities. His hands are good and he runs decent routes with good body control. So how does that make him special??
Those guys are a dime a dozen. I like him in the redzone and over the middle but like I say nothing special.
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:02 pm
Bob Moore…………should be added to the list.
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:04 pm
KoolKell, why do you need a definition, you know what it is. The state controls production, it decides what and how much of all commodities are to be produced. Ask a Russian, who stood in line for hours for toilet paper, how that works.
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:06 pm
BHP,
He is not special. He is no Calvin Johnson, Andre Johnson, or Larry Fitz, but he is a good WR who runs good routes, has good hands, and great body control. We need a WR with that kind of talent IMO. We will find out what he can do.
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:07 pm
I know the anti-Al crowd will take exception to that critigue, but let me tell you speed is a much desired quality in this league. Because guys who cannot run are evrywhere. Guys who have special athletic talent always are more desired than those who do not. DMoore is a game breaker same with Ford and DHB contrary to popular opinion. Because of their rare athleticism and SPEED.
Criner and guys like him can be had all day on the waiver wire. He has no explosion even though he does get open and get a 1st down. That’s why Crabtree has been a flop so far he’s SLOW!………..period
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:09 pm
That’s why I said he balances out the WR corp……….we agree.
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:09 pm
The means of production in the hands of the state. What US industry is that?
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:09 pm
I think we have enough speed with Moore, DHB, Ford, and Murphy, and what we need is a WR with great hands.
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:10 pm
Priesttj Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:09 pm
That’s why I said he balances out the WR corp……….we agree.
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Absolutely.
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:10 pm
Marx advocated the withering away of the state? Where did you get that?
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It is safe to say that of this argument of Engels’, which is so remarkably rich in ideas, only one point has become an integral part of socialist thought among modern socialist parties, namely, that according to Marx that state “withers away” — as distinct from the anarchist doctrine of the “abolition” of the state.
From “the state and revolution” Lenin
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:10 pm
If Criner ran a 4.4 40 he would’ve been darfted in the 1st 15 picks overall. He was shunned because he cannot run………….period
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:10 pm
KoolKell, I know you sht a lot, stock up.
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:12 pm
Sometimes a guy can be slow but he better make it up in route running like Jerry Rice did.
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:13 pm
BHP,
Speed is great but you need size and body control when the field gets shorter (red zone) like you said.
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:14 pm
Also some Guys are faster when they are in the game.Rather than running at the combine.
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:14 pm
I thought he looked faster than 4.67. He says he has football speed.
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:14 pm
BTW Raider O his hands are no better than DMoore’s or Ford’s and only slightly better than DHB and Murphy. He drops a few but he’s big huge target with good hands and can get open. Otherwise maybe he doesn’t even get drafted.
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:16 pm
Hot Shot Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:12 pm
Sometimes a guy can be slow but he better make it up in route running like Jerry Rice did.
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Scouts often talk about guys that are fast, and guys that are “quick”. There’s a difference. Criner apparently is quick not fast.
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:16 pm
I would take Chaz over him in a second if he could stay healthy.
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:16 pm
Running with pads (equipment) is different than running a straight line in shorts and no pads.
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:16 pm
Twocents, it would be nice if you presented some facts for once. I like to discuss politics & history. but with you there’s no there, there. Just weird Unabomber crap.
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:16 pm
Oh well ILL take Criner over Fragile Chaz any day.He gets hurt just putting on his uniform.
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:17 pm
Chaz was a freak but he couldn’t stay healthy. 6′4, 220, and runs a sub 4.4.
Go Aztecs!!!
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:19 pm
I think players should run the 40 with pads and a helmet.
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:19 pm
Quick for his sizewhich is how he gets open then he wards off with his arms and body. He’s smart and I like him but he runs like a TE. Reece has better hands size and athleticism.
As i said I like him but I don’t love him.
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:20 pm
KoolKell Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:16 pm
Twocents, it would be nice if you presented some facts for once. I like to discuss politics & history. but with you there’s no there, there. Just weird Unabomber crap.
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Right now twocents probably came down out the hills from his unabomber style shack to get on the internet and rail against the state. From the local public library. Or a school.
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:20 pm
priesttj Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:34 pm
Guys I know the DC was garbage no argument here. But we also had a ton of injuries
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It went way beyond injuries and bad coaching, our defensive personnel sucked in preseason and little was done to address it until Hue signed Aaron Curry. We already had a lot of injuries DURING PRESEASON and not a damn thing to do to compensate. Also, many other teams had more injuries than we did, and our offense had more key injuries than our defense as noted.
I mean after we lost Nnamdi then CJ37 has surgery on same part of body that was hurt the year before, 2nd year players McFadden and Jeremy Ware stink it up right from the beginning of preseason and they don’t even try Sterling Moore against anything but 3rd & 4th string scrubs cuz he doesn’t run an AD type 40, Chewka’s bad shoulder pops out during training camp, 40 yard dash specialist/CB-ST man Joe (?) Porter is hurt most of preseason, DVD is a raw rookie. Obviously Raiders lack personnel to put two decent CBs on field not to mention a nickel CB who is for practical purposes a starter in today’s NFL, and who do they bring in to compete at CB? Nobody but over the hill Lito Sheppard, then they cut him before re-signing him mid season. Compare to OL where we brought in competition, let them battle it out, and ended up having the most productive OL we have had in years.
Now LB. For christ sakes, our STARTING WSLB is Quentin Groves!!!! Groves specializes in slow processing of plays and then slipping to turf. Goethel lost for season after like 2nd preseason game. For what it’s worth Bruce Davis III gets hurt preseason too. Who do we bring in to compete? Bresnahan uses his mojo to bring the great Darryl Blackstock with him from the USFL or whatever it’s called. Wow. Davis and Blackstock do little to impress in pre-season, yet make the final cut.
Players like Joe (?) Porter, the “great” Jerome Boyd, LB Bruce Davis III, Darryl Blackstock, etc. make the opening day roster. Now how can you have good defensive personnel if guys that lousy make your opening day roster?
The great personnel expert Vittorio Tafur of the Chronicle raves about Jerome Boyd all preseason, saying he is a near lock to make roster and likely to become a great role/niche player for the Raiders.
Priesttj, you try to say how you make recommendations to the scouts and they train you what to look for in DBs, did they teach to to look for guys like Jerome Boyd? Jerome Boyd was pretty bad in the first 2 preseason games before improving in the last two, but overall shows he can barely cover kicks without stumbling when he turns/ changes directions, let alone when he transitions from backpedal to open stride in coverage. Now I don’t know who taught you scouting, but I have done a little myself, and anyone who knows DBs knows that’s a red flag right there, that someone with no fluidity on his turn is gonna get lit up all game vs TEs with enough speed to bust a deep seam route, which includes most of them now playing in NFL. The new Reggime thinks so highly of Boyd that he is the only eligible player that they didn’t even offer a tender to.
ANYONE WHO THINKS WE HAD GOOD, OR EVEN ADEQUATE, DEFENSIVE PERSONNEL LAST YEAR IS NUTS
and we’re not there yet for this year either I probably. I don’t see any impact players or even many potential difference makers on our D myself, do you?
Hope Sho’Nasty can take it to the next level, and Bartell is a really good one if healthy, Tyvon Branch has potential
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:20 pm
I love him!!
Go Criner!!!
LOL
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:21 pm
KoolKell, where have I ever advocated violence except in self defense? If you would like me to suggest a reading list, I would be happy to do so.
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:22 pm
Raider O Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:17 pm
Chaz was a freak but he couldn’t stay healthy. 6′4, 220, and runs a sub 4.4.
Go Aztecs!!!
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Shilens is a good player. He made some big catches for us. But hopefully we can find someone who spends more time on the field and less with the trainers.
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:23 pm
Daaaaaang! You beyotches have been busy! Racked up some posts in the time it took to sell a car!
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:24 pm
Another car salesman.
LOL
I sold cars for over a decade.
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:25 pm
I thought he looked faster than 4.67. He says he has football speed.
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He does, I call it functional speed . Football speed is relative to what reference? He does carry his pads well that’s why I have no beef with the pick but he doesn’t run with the ball well or make WOW plays. His ahnds aren’t exceptional their just good. Like I said he’s a guy we need but I don’t see bigplay in him like I do some possession guys.
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:27 pm
Could Criner gain some weight and become a starting TE?
survey says?
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:28 pm
We need a endzone WR period and good TE in the game.They just had to many time where we get down to the endzone and stall out due to play calling penalties and no big endzone threats.Thats going to change this year.Oh yeah Barns caused us how many TDs with his Penalties.
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:30 pm
It will be nice when we get down there to score and have Ausberry and Criner in the game.
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:30 pm
I like Criner as a WR.
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:31 pm
591.xraided Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:27 pm
Could Criner gain some weight and become a starting TE?
survey says?
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No. Rather see him at WR.
I hope they go with Ausberry at TE.
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:33 pm
Most of our TE’s are faster than he is. Except one.
He can help us where he is it’s not a bad pick I’m just syaiung we could’ve got a guy just as good and big who ran a lot faster, even later than we got him.
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:33 pm
589.Raider O Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:24 pm
Another car salesman.
LOL
I sold cars for over a decade.
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Really? I just bought a car at an auction for 620.00. It was from a guy who got a DUI and couldn’t afford to pay the impound fees.
2001 Toyota Corolla 99,000 miles.
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:34 pm
yes, i would agree.
It would be tremendous if someone like Hardy become the next Jimmy Graham.. or anywhere close to that. b-ball players know how to get in open spaces and are very shifty… the man is huge and can catch …
you just never know.
hopefully Ausberry becomes a good safety valve… although his blocking leaves a lot to be desired, unless he’s vastly improved that is.
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:35 pm
I said it before the draft we should’ve taken Gerrel Robinson in the 7th same size good hands from the Ariz St. same player just faster.
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:36 pm
Seymour State, I know you will agree with this. Either you are with the state or you are against it.
You have cast your lot with the state, the fact that you can’t even imagine what is is like to be under their boot is very revealing.
I know that you and your ilk are winning now, but you will have your day in the gallows.
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:37 pm
Hot Shot Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:28 pm
We need a endzone WR period and good TE in the game.They just had to many time where we get down to the endzone and stall out due to play calling penalties and no big endzone threats.Thats going to change this year.Oh yeah Barns caused us how many TDs with his Penalties.
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This is true. Hue Jackson relied on Janikowsky waaay too much. If he didn’t have Seabass, the Raiders would have scored about 26 points last year under Jackson’s playcalling.
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:40 pm
Has there ever been a better receiving core than Branch, Biletnikoff and Casper?
I think speed is very important, but what about craft and just plain out-smarting people.
I think you need a good mix or balance. Not just all speed.
Branch was even faster with pads!
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:41 pm
Twocents Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:36 pm
Seymour State, I know you will agree with this. Either you are with the state or you are against it.
You have cast your lot with the state, the fact that you can’t even imagine what is is like to be under their boot is very revealing.
I know that you and your ilk are winning now, but you will have your day in the gallows.
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I do agree with it. Twocents what is funny is I agree with your posts more than you realize. The difference between you and I is you demonize the state. I realize the state is just an agent for corporate interests who are the real demons. Societal institutions like roads, schools, courts, laws, are not in and of themselves bad. But most corporations now rape and exhort those institutions.
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:42 pm
Remember that great play where Shane threw that TD and Barns got that Penalty.That did it for me.Can,t stand that guy.
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:48 pm
Hot Shot Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:42 pm
Remember that great play where Shane threw that TD and Barns got that Penalty.That did it for me.Can,t stand that guy.
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KC. Once again Jackson could only get us points from trickery.
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:52 pm
and getting up field with a lot of comeback routes from DHB …
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:52 pm
DJ,
Great purchase. You can’t go wrong with 2000+ Toyota corolla for under 1000.
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:53 pm
With low miles too.
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:54 pm
I don,t like Huh but ill give him credit for that play.Even though we should score without having to do that.
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:55 pm
# priesttj Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:25 pm
I thought he looked faster than 4.67. He says he has football speed.
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He does, I call it functional speed . Football speed is relative to what reference? He does carry his pads well that’s why I have no beef with the pick but he doesn’t run with the ball well or make WOW plays. His ahnds aren’t exceptional their just good. Like I said he’s a guy we need but I don’t see bigplay in him like I do some possession guys.
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I don’t watch college games but I did watch youtube highlights of the guys we drafted for what they are worth.
I think Criner is NOT a TE. As far as the comparisons to TE or Schilens, I don’t see him as quite like that. This guy can go up for the catch in a crowd and take the ball away from DB and makes excellent last adjustments and get physical and snatch the ball. However, unlike a TE or Schilens, the guy is more “geyser” than “rebounder” when he goes up for the ball (acrobatic, goes up with body long, but doesn’t bring his knees or use his elbows, etc) , at least on downfield passes, he doesn’t use his body position before the catch to shield/ get position/ box-out like a TE or even Schilens did. Now the highlights mainly showed big plays/ TDs and didn’t show him much on short underneath routes that were supposedly his bread and butter so maybe he uses position/ box out technique more than I can tell. He’s pretty long, about 6-2 1/2 but not real long. I’m sure they’ll coach him up on positioning.
I do think he looks like an excellent 5th round pick but don’t think he is likely better than a typical 4th rounder. He has potential as a red zone and possession WR so I basically agree with Priesttj on this one — but we need a Red Zone/ Possession WR.
But this guy is not fast, and he isn’t quick either by NFL standards, imo; of course he’s gonna say he is in interviews. The concern that he will not be able to separate from NFL CBs is legit imo since he appears to be a one-speed one-gear runner with average speed little acceleration nor, and more importantly, not much burst out of his breaks. Most of his catches in highlight reel were contested–and of course he won. The highlight reel also didn’t show him being going against any press coverage where he would have to beat the jam off the line, or blocking.
I think he does have excellent hands -big, quick and soft. He also is a good weaving runner after the catch with vision/instincts toughness power and lean.
But another thing I saw is this guy is NOT that great at “making catches look easy” though his QB is not very good at ball placement either. He doesn’t seem to “run through the ball” very much, not great at judging flight, though he is good and doesn’t lose the ball over his shoulder, good tracking ball not great. He caught a lot of bad balls and made his QB look good imo. He has excellent body control going up for pass, twisting and positioning in air, and laying out horizontally and can make the great catch.
We need a guy like this–we have plenty of speed receivers.
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:08 pm
AlzadoX Pull up Gerrell Robinson higlight reel and tel me who would you draft in that spot?
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:13 pm
riesttj Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:19 pm
Quick for his sizewhich is how he gets open then he wards off with his arms and body. He’s smart and I like him but he runs like a TE. Reece has better hands size and athleticism.
As i said I like him but I don’t love him.
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so did you watch Criner in real games and see him use body position/shield/ box-out/ “ward off”? didn’t see much of that in you-tube highlights.
Reece definitely better straight line speed and burst too. But Criner is much more agile and changes direction better than Reece, but Reece weighs almost 250 so you can’t compare. Criner is a WR not a TE imo., and weighs about 220 much lighter than Reece though probably taller. Reece has a big butt and a classic FB body. Different type of athlete. Reece is a great athlete for a big wide shouldered/butt guy, Criner a more ordinary athlete but good possession WR. We need possession and red zone WR, have speed guys. Criner fills a need
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:13 pm
Fred Belitnikoff lacked break away speed but held numerous receiving records for which he was inducted in the HOF.
“Biletnikoff missed only eight games because of injury in 14 seasons. Biletnikoff, a native of Erie, PA, reached the zenith of a career filled with outstanding achievements when he caught four passes for 79 yards to set up three Oakland scores in the Raiders’ 32-14 victory in Super Bowl XI. He was named the game’s Most Valuable Player.” (Pro Football Hall of Fame)
Speed cannot replace talent: AD’s scholarship draftees have proven that. Victor Cruz had a 4.47 40 yd dash time which is very quick. Yet his hallmark catch, in which he essentially caught Manning’s pass out-of-bounds yet stayed in bounds had nothing to do with speed, only skill. Of course, Cruz was a walk-on undrafted free agent last year for the Giants.
Criner had a 4.67 time in the 40 yd dash. He will get his chance. I hope he pans out.
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:21 pm
I was watching some of Terrell Pryor work at OSU on YouTube.
Could one of the coaches here tell me why Hue didn’t use this guy as a change of pace wild cat QB in some select situations last year? He’s crazy fast almost as fast if not faster than Cam Newton. And he’s a play maker which we sorely missed having on this team. Let him get a few first downs w his leg and confuse and tire the heck out of the opposing defenses.
Why was he not used other than that ONE failed attempt against KC? Why?
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:22 pm
Yeah I’ve seen Criner for the last 3 years in maybe 7-10 games. At first I thought he was going to be bigtime. He just did anything that grabbed me. He’s had huge games #’s wise but still just nothing that I thought was memorable. Gerell Robinson is still unpolished and drops a few but I think he just brings mor eto the table in terms of bigplay ability. However I saw him asa 7th rndr 6th at best.
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:22 pm
WR G Robinson ran a 4.62, and Criner had better college production.
I think Criner is better.
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:28 pm
Dude TP is a nightmare the kid is so freakin gifted it’s scarry. He’s only played QB 6 years starting from his soph year in highschool I think. Yet he waqs the highest rated recruit in the nation. THis kid is still getting the fundamentals of the game down but what he can now is better than a lot guys in #2 positions and some starters. He’s just that talented.Just wait until he puts it together 6′6″ 240 runs a legitimate 4.4 40 with an gun an dhe’s accurate. But he needs to be coached up like any other rookie QB. He’s not as far along as Cam but he has that same ability to make plays with his arm and feet.
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:31 pm
TP will be our future QB book that!!!!
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:35 pm
yea i’ll take Criner. he’s not going to be depended on at all, unless of course there’s multiple injuries to our WR’s (happened last year) … if he gets a few 3rd down grabs and has a few TD’s, i’ll be happy with that production in his first year.
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:37 pm
Criner had a much better QB but like I said we took Criner in the 5th I would’ve waited and taken Robinson in the 7th. Then coach him up.
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:37 pm
Pryor has a great shot and opportunity to learn… his feet with DMC, Moore, Ford, DHB runnin around?
this is way Palmer loves his new playbook.
Palmer will be calling plays at the LOS starting week 1… PRINT IT!
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:39 pm
Christo. Bilukidi I think this guv will be good.Hes a smart guy and he learns fast and hes got speed for a big man.
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:40 pm
# priesttj Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:22 pm
Yeah I’ve seen Criner for the last 3 years in maybe 7-10 games. At first I thought he was going to be bigtime. He just did anything that grabbed me. He’s had huge games #’s wise but still just nothing that I thought was memorable. Gerell Robinson is still unpolished and drops a few but I think he just brings mor eto the table in terms of bigplay ability. However I saw him asa 7th rndr 6th at best.
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When you saw Criner did his QB always throw off target? That QB didn’t look very accurate on the Criner highlights, but was drafted. Looked like Criner can make last second adjustments to catch poorly thrown pass but doesn’t judge flight and “run through the ball” smoothly but the QB’s passes looked pretty bad.
Criner had great red-zone production 32 TD catches, and like 23 in last 2 years alone.
I’m a Raider fan. I watched you tube of Raider draftees. I used to do a little scouting but I’m “retired” from “semi-pro” scouting the Division II/ Division 1AA/sticks in San Luis Obispo for a guy who wrote a draft guide (and died 9 years ago, Joel Buchsbaum, most recently of PFW). Can’t watch all the prospects and highlights/you tube really doesn’t give you the whole story anyway. Does let you know their style of play and ability somewhat.
I watch the Raider preseason games–CLOSELY and repeatedly on tape; and of course the regular season games.
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:40 pm
agreed post 621.
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:41 pm
However I have no beef with Criner I think he helps he brings something we neeeded. I’m just not crazy about him.
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:43 pm
That Qb that threw to Criner threw some crapy passes.That QB was beyond garbage.Palmer will throw way better than that lame.
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:43 pm
Why was he not used other than that ONE failed attempt against KC? Why?
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Because that one failed attempt took us from a 3rd and 1 to a 3rd and 6, which on the next play Boller got picked and got taken to the house, we got blown out and Jackson got fired. That’s why.
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:44 pm
yea Priest. who can be excited about any of these guys we drafted, or even Pryor for that matter! yes they’re all great PROSPECTS, but that’s it so far.
we will see what they’re all made of this year… if some struggle, they won’t be written off..
HEY, if DHB can do it… anyone can!
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:44 pm
Joel was my inspration for doing the same. He was one of kind exceptional. Best scout I ever saw bar none. Mr Davis had high respect for Joel. He just wasn’t good for TV Mel Kiper stole his position at ESPN.
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:46 pm
626. truth!
CP is an accurate passer, especially when he can place the ball where only Criner can snag it!
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:55 pm
Those TV guys who work in the NFL are stupid as hell.They counter dict them selves all year long.Everyone they picked to win the superbowl lost and most of the ones they picked didnt even make the playoffs.Then they jump ship and act like they have been going for a different team all along.Most of those guy are a tool and I cant stand listening to their garbage.They don,t know Jack S—.
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:57 pm
alzadoX Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:40 pm
I watch the Raider preseason games–CLOSELY and repeatedly on tape; and of course the regular season games.
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Alzado, did u think we ran “vanilla” D schemes in the preseason last yr. In other words how different were the D schemes from preseason to reg.?
I watch the preseason closely as well and almost everything I saw on D…all the bad…AND good translated to reg. season.
Alot of guys here were saying “don’t worry, it’s preseason..we’ll be fine” etc. etc. etc.
Guess what? We were’nt.
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:01 pm
UCLA Raiders, #614
That’s simple UCLA, Hue was an idiot! Pryor could have been used many ways and put in the game. How about the last half-quarter of the GB game.
Hue, was in way over his head.
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:02 pm
also those TV guys also will talk down on a player then that player will have a good game and they praise that guy and are all on his nuts after they trashed him an hour before that.
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:03 pm
DJ Johnny,
I knew our D was screwed during the SF game in preseason. They just ran right through us. You just don’t “fix” something like that. It takes a few years.
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:03 pm
It’s a great time to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?!
Criner IS slow…just like Anquan Boldin, or Terrell Owens is slow.
Let’s see…Juron Criner, since becoming a starter halfway through his Sophomore year:
CAUGHT 202 PASSES IN 2 1/2 SEASONS…for 2,771 Yards.
That wasn’t against Miami of Ohio or the Akron Zips…it was against big-time, top recruits and some of the best football programs in the Country.
Juron Criner can play ball.
202 Passes for 2,771 Yds…in 2 1/2 seasons as a starter in the Pac-10/12. He’s not THAT slow…and he has GREAT hands (and ballz).
I say Criner at least makes the Practice Squad…and will go so far as to say he could be this year’s late-round WR find, just like DMoore was last year.
A great, low-risk-high-reward draft pick.
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:06 pm
you catch 202 balls in 2 years on any level, you can GET OPEN and catch it all day long. he’s at least as good as CRAPTREE of the niners. what was Craptree’s 40 time again? OH YEA HE DIDNT HAVE ONE! of course Craptree sucks, but the comparison is there because he’s also slow with “great hands” coming out of college. they played against similar competition, and Criner’s numbers weren’t inflated like a MF because of a gimmick 5 WR set offense 100% of the time.
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:06 pm
like post 636 he did all that with a garbage QB.To me thats impressive.
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:07 pm
Craptree sucks as a top 10 pick that is…
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:08 pm
DHB won on whos better him or Craptree.Craptree was the bust.
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:09 pm
Nick Foles isn’t exactly a garbage QB…he can easily be a #2 QB as early as this year, and has a good chance to develop his many talents into a great QB down the road.
That said…Foles was a lucky man to have Juron Criner to throw to.
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:09 pm
The Blues are done. Kings Juggernaut!
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:09 pm
Re: LB #4 pick Burris I watched you tube highlights and this guy an aggressive instinctive player. Think LB version of Sho’Nasty. True he doesn’t look very smooth in reverse on one or two clips of him dropping vs. pass, but Allen Carver et al will use his strengths.
Productive and playmaker in college, looks like he has enough athletic ability to play well in NFL and I’m excited to see him in training camp preseason regular season playoffs championship game super bowl etc.
Blog Semi’s already comparing Matthews to him…
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:14 pm
xraided Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:07 pm
Craptree sucks as a top 10 pick that is…
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It’s kinda payback for Al when everybody thought he was reachin’ for DHB. It made turn out that DHB shines for the next 3-4 years.
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:15 pm
Crabtree’s far from a bust. But, not THAT far.
Healthy wheels would help him…but he’ll never live up to the hype many (not all) people heaped on him. Counter Crabtree with DHB…and see a guy who is showing ALL his doubters (and believers) that hard work and dedication to craft can pay-off. DHB can be a steady 60-80 catch per year WR for the rest of his career.
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:18 pm
632. Damn sad about Seau. Even worse how some tried to usurp the tragedy by making it about the Leagues brain trauma lawsuit by slimeballs “Dignity after football/baseball/basketball ect ect.”
100s of millions on the line and its runing the game. Soon, pro football will no longer be a contact sport.
Seau had problems. That much is clear. Spousal abuse, drove off a cliff.
Its no massive leap to think Seau abused substances including steroids and its likely any brain trauma(Seau never “officially” suffered a concusion while playing pro ball)may have been from those as much as any big hits on field.
Sad none the less but not a cause celeb to be co-opted by those looking to further their own agenda.
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:20 pm
I have to admit I was one those that Al was taking a huge risk especially since JaWalus was kind’a throwin’ to DHB.
This kid may take off under a polished QB like CP3.
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:21 pm
DHB was the better pick because He has more size.Better work ethic and way better attitude.So glad we did not get Craptree He would have flopped on the Raiders.Got to give DHB credit for surviving all the harsh critics and crapy QBs.
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:24 pm
also DHB had to deal with switching coaches every year.
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:25 pm
I am watching last years Cleveland game and we need some work. I think I thought this team wasmbett than it was. Dennis needs to tighten some stuff up. It was more than loosing Campbell and run dmc…the team just wasn’t tight like good teams are.
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:27 pm
645. Now that hes deed Davis may actually get some pity concession from his detractors. IF Bey can have another productive year (could’ve broke 1,000 had Hue not inexplicably benched him) and Crabs peters out people will hav eot admit maybe the old man wasn’t completely senile after all.
Sure some of his decidions busted big time but in the long run, alot of his haters had to eat crow.
Taking Guy? A punter with a busted foot? J Kow “over drafted” with a 1st rounder? Now the leading scorer in Raider history.Hewritt Dixon. Marcel Reece’s conversion from Wr to FB. Asomugha’s transition from Safety to CB and so many many others
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:28 pm
Post 650.Thats because of those Crap coaches we had and predictable D they were running.
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:31 pm
The Oakland Raiders
Raiders draft choice jersey number assignments: OL Tony Bergstrom #70, LB Miles Burris #56, DE Jack Crawford #91, WR Juron Criner #84, DT Christo Bilukidi #96, LB Nathan Stupar #54
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:33 pm
I’m kind’a stoked to see what DHB may become this season.
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:39 pm
we will have a top 3 offense this year.I dont think we will stall out on drives that much like we did last year.Also I think we will see more big Plays Due to Palmer loving the play book.Its nice to finally have a leader as a QB.
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:40 pm
Raider guy Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:25 pm
I am watching last years Cleveland game and we need some work. I think I thought this team wasmbett than it was. Dennis needs to tighten some stuff up. It was more than loosing Campbell and run dmc…the team just wasn’t tight like good teams are.
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True but it was Hue’s rookie yr as HC and only 2nd yr with the team. Alot of injuries at key positions had chemistry un balanced. Defense? That was part devasted secondary and DC…
Should be better this yr fingers crossed!
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:41 pm
635.Hardline Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:03 pm
DJ Johnny,
I knew our D was screwed during the SF game in preseason. They just ran right through us. You just don’t “fix” something like that. It takes a few years.
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Yeah. Guys say not to worry about preseason and I don’t….not about the score…I worry when I see teams like Sf as u mentioned do what they did to the Raiders.
I have to admit that I was ticked a bit that we lost that game..preseason or not.
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:43 pm
Falls like a cheap suit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6kK73wpGNM&feature=related
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:49 pm
658,
You know what’s interesting? He gets up afterword looking to the sideline for the next play…and it’s 4th down.
Talk about NOT being into the game whatsoever…My goodness.
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:49 pm
Yo just got back from Staples, King fever in the hizzy whut whut?
Busted a legendary BJ in the limo on the way home with this slightly overweight stripper from Fresno
Gonna have to soak my tongue in a frozen margarita and drop a massive turd pie
So what’s happening here in the blog, for realz
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:51 pm
# DJ Johnny Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:57 pm
alzadoX Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 9:40 pm
I watch the Raider preseason games–CLOSELY and repeatedly on tape; and of course the regular season games.
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Alzado, did u think we ran “vanilla” D schemes in the preseason last yr. In other words how different were the D schemes from preseason to reg.?
I watch the preseason closely as well and almost everything I saw on D…all the bad…AND good translated to reg. season.
Alot of guys here were saying “don’t worry, it’s preseason..we’ll be fine” etc. etc. etc.
Guess what? We were’nt.
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I think the D was more vanilla in preseason, but part of Bres’ problem is that he made it too complicated.
Aside from an executive def coordinator who was on his last breath and a puppet def coord that was out of the league for years and was really lame, OUR DEFENSIVE PERSONNEL SUCKED (see my long post around 8pm above) and also affected the play calling and crazy complex schemes Bres used to try to cover for lousy personnel.
For example, WSLB Quentin Groves was so lame against the pass that Bres took him out of game in passing situations and went with 5 DL and left us one man short on coverage with LBs who couldn’t handle coverage too well even if they weren’t shorthanded.
For example, the Buffalo game, famous game ender
4DB, 2 LB, 5 DL yet one of them isn’t Wimbley–Wimbley is in at LB, and he’s only played LB for a little over a year at that point. The Bills put their little RB in the slot, the big WR who caught the TD out fairly wide at flanker, then he went in motion to inside and CB Chris Johnson followed the motion (ie, m/m coverage). Kam Wimbley just freezes and doesn’t move at all, his eyes transfixed on big RB in backfield thinking it was gonna be a run. Trouble was, Kam was frozen in the position Johnson needed to get to to square up with the flanker. Wimbley doesn’t even bump the flanker, giving him a clean release, then Kam follows the little slotback running underneath route. Johnson ends up following little slotback too. Flanker runs a drive route and is wide open for TD. Then Tommy Kelly tells press after game “if that is your man, cover him to the bathroom” referring to CJ37, who knew he was gonna get beat cuz Kam was in his damn way the whole play (Kam also picked CJ37 after snap) but it was kind of look selfish by CJ37 looked like he didn’t want to look responsible knowing he would get beat cause he had no chance with Kam in his way.
The reason I know this is from a combo of TV and NFL website, which showed aerial view on “play of the day”. By seeing jersey numbers on TV before snap, then watching aerial view on nfl I know who was who. Wimbley was trying to cover that little slotback and Romac actually had good position the whole time on TE running slant in the back of the end zone far deeper behind where slotback ran, but Kam and Romac were off screen on TV as play unfolded and announcers had them mixed up
This is no excuse for Romac’s quitting after whiffed tackles in pursuit, repeatedly being out of position not maintaining gap discipline and stupid stuff off the field, but Romac did not blow that particular play. There are plenty of others to blame Romac for.
Then of course you could go on all day about Bresnahan using LBs to cover Megatron and other WR downfield.
But as I posted earlier, our D personnel sucked no depth either except DL and they did nothing to bring in preseason competition at CB and LB and the results were predictable coming out of the preseason
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:54 pm
Yo DJ, did get some work in on 2K4S’s hot new jam D.O.A.L. (duece of a lifetime)
Thinking the video will basically be me singing while I drop a DOAL, the rest of the band grooving in the shower, and an ape doing a massive drum solo
Check this flow
Bout to set a record girl, know what I mean?
Cause this log I’m gonna drop be totally obscene
Yo, you know I love you ’cause you’re mighty fine
But this legendary duece gonna blow your mind
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:55 pm
Post 658.Jamarcus looked like GEEEE BOSS what do I do.What a moron.
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:57 pm
Good stuff Alzado. Thanks.
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:58 pm
652. Lot of people say that because they think “oh ole man Davis and his dated scheme!” but actually we ran and have run as diverse schemes as most other teams.
4-3, 3-4, 5-2, big nickle, dime, tampa 2-3 and I wouldn’t swear it but think there might’ve been a 4-3 flex thrown in there too…
May 3rd, 2012 at 11:01 pm
Beech,
Awesome. Do u think it’d be too much to have her pretend to take a bite of the DOAL and then fool the audience when she holds up a Snickers bar…? (like Caddyshack).
Could tie in to the comedy routine angle too.
May 3rd, 2012 at 11:05 pm
The coaches Did not prepare the D and it showed when they played.There also was no real leader on D.MCclain was lost due to being young and not knowing how to read offenses right and not lining people up in the right spots.
May 3rd, 2012 at 11:11 pm
Foreign aid is taking money from poor people in a rich country and giving it to rich people in a poor country. —Ron Paul
May 3rd, 2012 at 11:12 pm
“I share our Founders’ belief that in a free society each citizen must have the right to keep and bear arms…” — Ron Paul
May 3rd, 2012 at 11:13 pm
“I lean toward a flat tax. But I want to make it real flat, like ZERO.” — Ron Paul
May 3rd, 2012 at 11:16 pm
Salary of the US President… $400,000. Salary of retired US Presidents… $180,000. Salary of House/Senate… $174,000. Salary of Speaker of house… $223,500. Salary of Majority/Minority Leaders… $193,400. Average US Salary… $33,000 to $77,000.
May 3rd, 2012 at 11:21 pm
DJ it’s ideas like that which will make the 2K4S Official Fan Club the coolest in the 7 – 14 age demographic
Snickers will be dying to sponsor us, which will mean way more weed than we ever dreamed
Plus think of the cameos – Chevy Chase can be the “crazy janitor” who dances in the aisles while we rock then eventually slips on my banana peel gag
So excited I just ordered another box of Magnums on Amazon
May 3rd, 2012 at 11:25 pm
# Hot Shot Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 11:05 pm
The coaches Did not prepare the D and it showed when they played.There also was no real leader on D.MCclain was lost due to being young and not knowing how to read offenses right and not lining people up in the right spots.
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no doubt, but even if they line up right, if you have LBs trying to cover Megatron 30 yards downfield.
But especially vs. no huddle offenses esp. they had trouble lining up before the snap and it got worse as the play went on.
Bresnahan is like the Rube Goldberg of defensive coordinators–overly complex schemes to accomplish what? What MLB could get the guys lined up right?
And since they only practiced vanilla in preseason games, that didn’t make the transition to Rube Goldberg in regular season any easier
As far as having multiple defensive sets, how many of them did they set right?
May 3rd, 2012 at 11:47 pm
The last thing big government proponents want is for peace to break out in the world” — Ron Paul
May 3rd, 2012 at 11:54 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:49 pm
658,
You know what’s interesting? He gets up afterword looking to the sideline for the next play…and it’s 4th down.
Talk about NOT being into the game whatsoever…My goodness.
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Purple drank.
May 4th, 2012 at 12:01 am
One thing I think the defensive coaches, or someone with the Raiders, is good at is duping the beat writers.
I mean last year Vittorio Tafur of the Chronicle/SF Gate blog is talking up Jerome Boyd as a near lock to make the team and about his potential and all the possible exotic specialty and niche roles he could fill for the Raiders. Now anybody who has passed scouting 101 can tell you a strong safety who can barely turn his hips 90 degrees on kick coverage without stumbling and loses two steps on the receiver every time he transitions from backpedal to open stride is going to get lit up all day by any TE who can halfway get deep, and get beat by any TE who can run any decent route. That is a red flag right there. The new Reggime didn’t even offer him a tender, the only guy eligible who didn’t get tendered, after he bounced between roster and practice squad.
Now if Jerome Boyd is anywhere near a lock to make an NFL team, the story the beat writers should be on top of is why the hell the personnel department is not bringing in talent to compete, not trying to figure out fancy ways Jerome Boyd can be used.
Players like CB Joe (?) Porter, the “great” Jerome Boyd, LB Bruce Davis III, Darryl Blackstock, etc. make the opening day roster. Now how can you have good defensive personnel if that many lousy players make your opening day roster? Blackstock is a good special teams player, but if you need LBs he’s not gonna help much.
THE RAIDERS DEFENSIVE PERSONNEL SUCKED IN 2011. It still sucks, but the new Reggime is working on it, unlike last year.
Last year our defensive personnel sucked in preseason and little was done to address it until Hue signed Aaron Curry. We already had a lot of injuries DURING PRESEASON and not a damn thing to do to compensate. Also, many other teams had more injuries than we did, and our offense had more key injuries than our defense as noted.
I mean after we lost Nnamdi then CJ37 has surgery on same part of body that was hurt the year before, 2nd year players McFadden and Jeremy Ware stink it up right from the beginning of preseason and they don’t even try Sterling Moore against anything but 3rd & 4th string scrubs cuz he doesn’t run an AD type 40, Chewka’s bad shoulder pops out during training camp, 40 yard dash specialist/CB-ST man Joe (?) Porter is hurt most of preseason, DVD is a raw rookie. Obviously Raiders lack personnel to put two decent CBs on field not to mention a nickel CB who is for practical purposes a starter in today’s NFL, and who do they bring in to compete at CB? Nobody but over the hill Lito Sheppard, then they cut him before re-signing him mid season. Compare to OL where we brought in competition, let them battle it out, and ended up having the most productive OL we have had in years.
Now LB. For christ sakes, our STARTING WSLB is Quentin Groves!!!! Groves specializes in slow processing of plays and then slipping to turf. Goethel lost for season after like 2nd preseason game. For what it’s worth Bruce Davis III gets hurt preseason too. Who do we bring in to compete? Bresnahan uses his mojo to bring the great Darryl Blackstock with him from the USFL or whatever it’s called. Wow. Davis and Blackstock do little to impress in pre-season, yet make the final cut.
May 4th, 2012 at 12:03 am
“I am just absolutely convinced that the best formula for giving us peace and preserving the American way of life is freedom, limited government, and minding our own business overseas.” — Ron Paul
May 4th, 2012 at 12:07 am
“The moral and constitutional obligations of our representatives in Washington are to protect our liberty, not coddle the world, precipitating no-win wars, while bringing bankruptcy and economic turmoil to our people.” ~Congressman Ron Paul
May 4th, 2012 at 1:12 am
13 (148) Detroit Lions (from Oakland): CB Chris Greenwood, Albion (Mich.)
The small-school prospect has a very intriguing size-speed combination and caught fire, posting a 43-inch vertical jump at his pro day. Revisiting his tape showed a lot of reasons to be excited, as he made plays on the ball and he could be a diamond in the rough. He is a smart pick for GM Martin Mayhew.
31 (166) Cincinnati Bengals (from New England): WR Marv Jones, California
Jones warranted some third-round grades from evaluators and could develop into a solid No. 4 or No. 5 receiver, though he does not have great upside. He could be a very good fit in Jay Gruden’s offense.
I believe Greenwood has the skill set of the long sought “playmaker” for the Raider “D.” I think Jones has been sold short by the so-called talent evaluators due to the lack of a competent QB @ Cal (my alma mater, so I am entitled to my criticism) & with the addition of a little upper body muscle & professional coaching can be a effective #2 WR, or a fine #3 wideout. However, if Keenen Allen were available to the silver & black in next year’s draft I would be all kinds of giddy. . .
Just want to go on record regarding my favs from the 2012 draft. My #1 candidate for next year remains Billy Turner, OT from North Dakota State. . .mark it (the aforementioned K. Allen intrigues me as well but he’s currently on everyone’s radar. . .)
33 (168) Oakland Raiders (compensatory selection): WR Juron Criner, Arizona
Criner is a long-limbed, heavy-footed receiver who ran slow at his pro day and at the Combine, clocking in the low 4.7s. He’s a vertical jump-ball catcher with good leaping ability who will have to contend for a No. 4 or No. 5 job.
I like Criner in college but the proof is in the pudding. Perhaps he will consult a “speed” coach or change his workout regimen to accentuate upon “fast twitch” exercises to compensate (see Murphy, Louis, Viagra traffic stop) for his “slow footed lack of speed.”
May 4th, 2012 at 1:16 am
Guest123 Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:06 am
Can anyone provide a DA interview where doesn’t say, “at the end of the day”?
puke! Sick and tired of that cliche he hangs his hat on as an excuse for a pregnant pause.
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Yeah, especially the one quote; “At the end of the day Guest123 is the biggest puke on this freaking board”
im especially sick of that one…i mean , WE KNOW THAT ALREADY.
May 4th, 2012 at 1:19 am
The Beeech Dawg Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 10:49 pm
Yo just got back from Staples, King fever in the hizzy whut whut?
Busted a legendary BJ in the limo on the way home with this slightly overweight stripper from Fresno
Gonna have to soak my tongue in a frozen margarita and drop a massive turd pie
So what’s happening here in the blog, for realz
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Just chillin, waiting for wack emcees to join, here.
May 4th, 2012 at 1:38 am
antispy3 Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 1:12 am
Re: Criner
He’s a vertical jump-ball catcher with good leaping ability who will have to contend for a No. 4 or No. 5 job.
Perhaps he will consult a “speed” coach or change his workout regimen to accentuate upon “fast twitch” exercises to compensate (see Murphy, Louis, Viagra traffic stop) for his “slow footed lack of speed.”
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does “vertical” refer to running downfield vertical routes or “vertical jump ball catcher” refer to what I said earlier where he seems more “geyser” than “rebounder” going up for the ball–acrobatic and long reach up and pluck it guy rather than bringing his knees and elbows to keep defender away from ball type ?
As I mentioned earlier, don’t think he’s a TE.
As far as getting quicker, losing a few pounds may help, or maybe not. He’s certainly not fat or anything. Pretty lanky looking, but I would think if anything he should lose weight to get quicker rather than gain weight to get bigger. But what do I know.
May 4th, 2012 at 2:12 am
AlzadoX Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 1:38 am
antispy3 Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 1:12 am
Re: Criner
He’s a vertical jump-ball catcher with good leaping ability who will have to contend for a No. 4 or No. 5 job.
Perhaps he will consult a “speed” coach or change his workout regimen to accentuate upon “fast twitch” exercises to compensate (see Murphy, Louis, Viagra traffic stop) for his “slow footed lack of speed.”
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does “vertical” refer to running downfield vertical routes or “vertical jump ball catcher” refer to what I said earlier where he seems more “geyser” than “rebounder” going up for the ball–acrobatic and long reach up and pluck it guy rather than bringing his knees and elbows to keep defender away from ball type ?
As I mentioned earlier, don’t think he’s a TE.
As far as getting quicker, losing a few pounds may help, or maybe not. He’s certainly not fat or anything. Pretty lanky looking, but I would think if anything he should lose weight to get quicker rather than gain weight to get bigger. But what do I know.
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“He’s a talent, there is no doubt about that. However, the key in determining his draft stock is where he’s at mentally and physically. If he checks out in both areas he could develop into a starting caliber wide out. But looks more like a sub-package guy. ”
“For his size does a nice job showing good change of direction skills and balance on sharply breaking routes. Runs routes at full speed, keeps his feet under him and can create a burst/separation out of his breaks. Tends to round off his angles a bit, but uses his body to box out defenders and isn’t afraid to pluck the football away from his frame in traffic. Exhibits good body control and coordination when asked to adjust. Uses his big, strong hands well to pluck off his frame and is a threat in jump ball situations”
-Wes Bunting, National Football Post
AlzadoX, antispy3 you are right on point
this guy replaces Chaz Schillens, and hopefully he’s durable, can pick up the system quickly and get the occasional first down or red zone TD
May 4th, 2012 at 3:04 am
@AlzadoX
Excellent analysis on Criner! Since you don’t see him becoming a tight end, what do you think of Ausberry’s potential? Have you seen film of him from USC? Also, keep in mind that Ted Gilmore is the new WR coach.
May 4th, 2012 at 3:17 am
[...] Seau in Oakland was can’t miss entertainment Some day either there will be a new football stadium in Oakland or the Raiders will leave town, but they’ll never replace the memories that only a few of us in the business had when watching Junior Seau play at the Coliseum. [...]
May 4th, 2012 at 5:05 am
It’s to early to be up!
May 4th, 2012 at 5:07 am
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May 4th, 2012 at 5:22 am
Anyone need to kill some time, I found this story pretty weird and bizarre, and worth the 15-20 minute read:
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/eticket/story?page=Guerdwich-Montimere
May 4th, 2012 at 5:41 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Happy Aloha Friday! Also…Happy Pre-Cinco de Mayo!!!
May 4th, 2012 at 5:42 am
My boss just passed away unexpectedly last night. It feels like a shock. I just spoke with him yesterday.
Best boss I ever had…I’m going to miss him. Hard to think about anything else. I guess this is grief. I didn’t have a personal relationship or friendship with him, just respect as a boss and he was a fair man who rewarded my work and respected my family. He was only in his late 50’s. Far too young to die.
Makes me wonder how much any of us has on this earth. I heard him say he was going to work just one more year, and then he would enjoy 20 years of retirement. That’s a damn crying shame.
May 4th, 2012 at 5:43 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 5:22 am
Anyone need to kill some time, I found this story pretty weird and bizarre, and worth the 15-20 minute read:
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/eticket/story?page=Guerdwich-Montimere
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Co-sign. Very odd story. Thank you very much for sharing.
May 4th, 2012 at 6:00 am
guest123 Says:
Well, already Reggie has dumped a number of AD players this offseason. I think he’s going to clean house within 3 years. Last man standing could be Lechler, but I hear that FA punter we signed can boom 70 yarders. Still I’d vote for Lechler, maybe Condo.
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Really?.
I’d wait on that, Reggie certainly did.
If Reggie wanted to clean house, he could have.
This would have been the year to do it, get rid of players who “can’t play” a large number from what we read here and trade those with some value to grab more draft picks this year and next.
He could have just sacrificed 2012 by taking the cap hits and trading anyone with value in order to set us up for the future.
That’s usually what new GM’s do, blow up their roster and stack them with their guys, right?.
Why wait and thread water next year with a roster full of “AD’s crap” then? wouldn’t that be a stupid move?.
Cut Seymour, Kelly and maybe McClain, take the cap hit this year and free up space for 2013.
Let Branch walk, save more money and get a comp pick next year.
Hell, he could have dumped Carson Palmer and signed Matt Flynn as his QB.
McFadden could have gotten him a 2nd and a 4th, maybe a couple 3rds.
DHB, Moore, Ford, McClain and a number of other young players could have fetched him lower round picks that you guys seem to believe Reggie undoubtedly hit on, as if he’s some sort of Draft magician.
I think that Reggie, contrary to popular belief, at least in here, feels a lot of the guys currently on the roster can play and Dennis Allen who played us twice last year, watched a ton of film on the Raiders and saw them up close, probably agreed.
Not to say some players are facing make or break years, but it looks like Reggie and DA have a lot more faith on this roster than guys in here.
Otherwise, why give them a chance next year when you could have started the “clean house” movement inmediately instead of wasting a year?.
May 4th, 2012 at 6:01 am
Guest123.
RIP your boss.
May 4th, 2012 at 6:11 am
@G123
sorry for your loss, bro.
May 4th, 2012 at 6:13 am
As far as Tommy Kelly playing some NT and the DL in generaL
I think, for the last few years, they were asked to fire off the snap, penetrate and disrupt, if you happen to meet the ball-carrier on your way upfield, then tackle him, that’s why we have so many off-sides, they were always trying to get a jump on the OL.
That’s one way to play, but other prefer the DL to read and react, occupy blockers and let the back-end of the D make the plays.
We havent’s seen our guys play that way, except for Seymour in NE but he was so good he often ended up making plays as well.
Point is, they will be asked to do stuff differently now, mix things up more and the people in charge seem to think it’s gonna make a difference.
May 4th, 2012 at 6:15 am
At the end of the day Guest123 is the biggest puke on this freaking board
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@G123
I didn’t know you and Sam had some sort of beef??
May 4th, 2012 at 6:17 am
Later.
May 4th, 2012 at 6:22 am
why give them a chance next year when you could have started the “clean house” movement inmediately instead of wasting a year?
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@Marley
we couldn’t afford to take cap hits for everybody. not with the excellerated bonuses coming due. You’ve got to also consider the cost of replacements. Then ask if you’ve got the cash to get in a bidding war with other teams for the good players in free agency. It’s not all as easy as you make it sound. Also, in trading players you have to have a trading partner. then what are these teams offering? is it worth it?
Reggie & Dennis aren’t gonna chop everybody who was drafted by Al just for the sake of doing it. I do think, however, that this team will look much different next year than it does today because Reggie will have more picks and he’ll have some cap wiggle room. Two things he really didn’t have much of in his first year as GM
May 4th, 2012 at 6:23 am
5 minutes late on Marley, it seems.
oh well
good morning AM crew !!
May 4th, 2012 at 6:24 am
691.John David Booty Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 5:43 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 5:22 am
Anyone need to kill some time, I found this story pretty weird and bizarre, and worth the 15-20 minute read:
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/eticket/story?page=Guerdwich-Montimere
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Co-sign. Very odd story. Thank you very much for sharing.
I agree! Very weird story! Who is he?
Anyways, thanks!
May 4th, 2012 at 6:32 am
Thanks RRS, Marley
I appreciate the sentiments.
May 4th, 2012 at 6:36 am
Heat & Thunder win again, advance to 3-0
May 4th, 2012 at 6:36 am
I didn’t know you and Sam had some sort of beef??
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dunno who he is or what beef he has with me. I got no beef with anyone.
also as a sidenote,
Don’t take life for granted. Don’t waste time with petty quarrels with your loved ones. Don’t expect things not to change.
May 4th, 2012 at 6:39 am
Wow, go LA Kings!
May 4th, 2012 at 6:41 am
I see a lot of my clients work 28 years, finally retire, kids are out of the house, time to enjoy life……and than bam, they die a couple of years into what should have been a great 15-20 years of a successful retirement.
May 4th, 2012 at 6:42 am
I agree! Very weird story! Who is he?
Anyways, thanks!
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What was with the creepy tattoo at the end of the story?
Voodoo!!!!
May 4th, 2012 at 6:44 am
Saints WR Nick Toon will wear number 88, just like his father [Al Toon] did as a Jets receiver.
New Orleans Top 3 WR’s are Colston, Henderson & Moore.
add in TE’s Jimmy Graham & David Thomas.
add in scat back Darren Sproles.
N.O. is not going to miss Robert Meachem and his 40 catches…
May 4th, 2012 at 6:45 am
I see a lot of my clients work 28 years, finally retire, kids are out of the house, time to enjoy life……and than bam, they die a couple of years into what should have been a great 15-20 years of a successful retirement.
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yup, my boss left behind two college aged kids…he always talked about how he was going to relax and enjoy life at 60+ years.
He mentioned at lunch yesterday twice how he felt like going home and taking a nap ~ felt tired. I’ve never heard him talk like that. And then he collapsed in the parking lot. Just like that, life over.
May 4th, 2012 at 6:49 am
I always liked Al Toon, wished he was a Raider..
kid was even a track star in high school!!
how did Al Davis miss this guy?
May 4th, 2012 at 6:54 am
Robert Meachem was a product of having Drew Brees at QB and so much talent around him at RB, WR & TE. Excellent coaching, as well.
coming off of injury, with a brand new team and a FAT contract trying to replace V-Jax as the #1 WR ??
I predict a huge flop.
Malcom Floyd, Vincent Brown & Eddie Royal better step it up
May 4th, 2012 at 6:54 am
Unemployment going the wrong way on our fearless leader.
I warned people about them hanging their hat on the unemployment numbers, when 9 out of 10 years it rallies Nov-Mar, and than slides in the summer.
You would think these people would know the cyclical trends.
May 4th, 2012 at 6:56 am
JFB,
do you see the unemployment trend continuing on thru the election, or will be some sort of political stimulus to prop up the numbers till then?
May 4th, 2012 at 6:59 am
Nice job beaking down that game ending play in Buffalo, Alzado X.
CJ37 peeling off on the RB was unacceptable!
May 4th, 2012 at 7:01 am
708.guest123 Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 6:45 am
I see a lot of my clients work 28 years, finally retire, kids are out of the house, time to enjoy life……and than bam, they die a couple of years into what should have been a great 15-20 years of a successful retirement.
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yup, my boss left behind two college aged kids…he always talked about how he was going to relax and enjoy life at 60+ years.
He mentioned at lunch yesterday twice how he felt like going home and taking a nap ~ felt tired. I’ve never heard him talk like that. And then he collapsed in the parking lot. Just like that, life over.
Very sad to hear that! You know, HE has a plan for all of us! It was his time…sorry for your loss!
May 4th, 2012 at 7:01 am
They won’t get any stimulus through the House, so you can scratch that.
It’s just a typical summer cooling off period. Happens all the time. People will make way to big of a deal about it, on both sides.
They always say the stock market and unemployment go opposite of the weather. It gets cold, they heat up and vice versa.
May 4th, 2012 at 7:01 am
706.Just Fire Baby Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 6:42 am
I agree! Very weird story! Who is he?
Anyways, thanks!
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What was with the creepy tattoo at the end of the story?
Voodoo!!!!
I know right? Creepy/scary
May 4th, 2012 at 7:02 am
I honestly could care less about the Saints and this whole “bounty” thing. I’m rooting for them to make the playoffs and Drew Brees to sign a monster contract to finish his career there.
Even with Loomis, Payton & Vitt suspended … They’ve still got Aaron Kromer, Pete Carmichael, Jr. & Joe Lombardi coaching the offense and Steve Spagnuolo, Bill Johnson & Ken Flajole coaching the defense.
All the players that were suspended have already been replaced. They are in good shape imo
I hope we beat the crap out of them on 11/18 though !!!!
May 4th, 2012 at 7:03 am
Buffalo, SMH.
What an epic disaster that was!!!
And it was about the only time Soup was forcing the issue down the field, and he had probably his best game as a Raider.
After that, it was back to shaky Soupy, and check downs.
May 4th, 2012 at 7:03 am
That story kinda reminded me of that movie, The Serpent and The Rainbow!
May 4th, 2012 at 7:03 am
thanks Hwnrdr
May 4th, 2012 at 7:04 am
GOOD MORNING NATION !!!!
May 4th, 2012 at 7:05 am
Rolando had a pick in his hands too, if he turns his head around a FRACTION of a second earlier, I don’t think it handcuffs him as much.
Man that was agony to watch the end of that game, because we all knew it was probably coming. Just such a helpless feeling.
May 4th, 2012 at 7:05 am
Guest123.. sorry for your loss brother.
May 4th, 2012 at 7:08 am
Alzado X did a nice job in breaking down that Buffalo play. But what it illustrates more than lack of quality depth (which is a valid point), but the clueless coaching of the defense. I think any change has to be 100% better.
May 4th, 2012 at 7:08 am
thanks Mike
May 4th, 2012 at 7:11 am
Injuries happen to every team, so it’s no excuse. After week 1, pretty much nobody is 100% healthy. That’s why you need depth. It’s so underrated, but we just didn’t have any last year. Boyd and Blackstock weren’t quality grade fill-ins, merely ST players. I think/hope? that this draft corrected this.
May 4th, 2012 at 7:11 am
I also agree with Alzado X on the issue of pre season LACK of addressing personnel.
May 4th, 2012 at 7:12 am
That Buffalo game also illustrated our dire need for an edge pass rusher.
Where was Kam that whole 2nd half with his vaunted pass rush?
May 4th, 2012 at 7:13 am
Taking the kid to the circus tonight, then the wife and I are headed to Denver to watch the Braves-Rockies tomorrow night…….she likes the Braves.
I will try and injure Manning if I see him in Denver.
May 4th, 2012 at 7:17 am
I remember watching Braves-Rockies at Mile High Stadium back in the inaugural season back in 94?
Greg Maddux blanked them 1-0. You couldn’t see the players – looked like ants from the nose-bleed seats. I was too drunk to care. The new Rockies baseball Field is so much better venue to watch baseball.
May 4th, 2012 at 7:20 am
Coors field is pretty great. I have been to Oakland, Minnesota and Wrigley…..I love Wrigley due to my love of the Cubs, but Coors field is a better place to watch baseball.
May 4th, 2012 at 7:24 am
I agree, there is no bad seat at Coors Field. I’ve sat in just about every section when I lived there in CO. Great stadium. Denver is really a beautiful city. I don’t hold a grudge even though I hate their team. I’ve been to Candlestick, Oakland, Tropicana Field, and the new Cincinnati ballpark. I like Coors field the best.
May 4th, 2012 at 7:34 am
Damn shame for Mo Rivera.
He was one of the most unique super-star athletes of this generation. When I say unique, I mean that his skill set was so unique from everyone else. He was rail-thin, and he never got hurt, threw one pitch for 15 years and nobody could hit it.
I would also put in Dwayne Wade, maybe Rajon Rondo, Troy P and Barry Sanders in that type of category. Not only could people not do what they do, nobody would be foolish to even attempt to try.
May 4th, 2012 at 7:53 am
I watched the the game when marcus allen came back to the coliseum with the cheifs from the nosebleeds.. Seemed like I was sitting a mile high.
May 4th, 2012 at 7:53 am
whats up fellas… What I miss being in the hospital all week with pneumonia?
I actually have a prescription for purple drank now! I can be just like Jamarcus. LOL
May 4th, 2012 at 7:54 am
728.Just Fire Baby Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 7:12 am
That Buffalo game also illustrated our dire need for an edge pass rusher.
Where was Kam that whole 2nd half with his vaunted pass rush?
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Fitzpatrick had the ball out of his hands in 4 seconds or less. He had a better handle on our defense than we did and just picked it apart.
May 4th, 2012 at 7:58 am
Fitzpatrick is decent, but when he is picking you apart, that was a pretty good bit of forshadowing for the rest of the season.
May 4th, 2012 at 8:01 am
not much. We got wang
May 4th, 2012 at 8:03 am
Damn you Chucky!! A good DC puts his players in a position to make plays. McClain (MLB) and Boyd (Backup S) covering Calvin Johnson (one of the best WRs in the League)?!?!
May 4th, 2012 at 8:04 am
The epic tale of the mighty los angeles lakers continues tonight
May 4th, 2012 at 8:04 am
Good Day Nation.
Long Live ODB!!!
May 4th, 2012 at 8:06 am
Bcz,
I hope you feeling better, and I wish you a quick/ full recovery.
We need our cap expert.
May 4th, 2012 at 8:23 am
Thanks O. I am back to work today, against the wishes of my doc. I feel like I was used as a tackling dummy by Ray Lewis. I already missed 2.5 days this week, and I was going insane. Had to get back. Hopefully I will be better come Monday though, I have the weekend to recover
May 4th, 2012 at 8:26 am
I notice you didn’t use Michael Huff in your tackling dummy analogy.
May 4th, 2012 at 8:27 am
I noticed a bunch of teams started mini camps…when does ours start?
May 4th, 2012 at 8:36 am
Raider O Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 8:03 am
Damn you Chucky!! A good DC puts his players in a position to make plays. McClain (MLB) and Boyd (Backup S) covering Calvin Johnson (one of the best WRs in the League)?!?!
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It was the right defense. We were in a two deep. Linehan moved CJ around so he could get the right matchup. Classic modern day football. We were in the right defense, they adjusted, and their players made the play. Our guys didn’t.
May 4th, 2012 at 8:38 am
Johnson ran past Jerome Boyd like he was in quick sand.
Megatron was pretty damn impressive that drive. The catch on the sidelines, just having an extra gear over our safeties, and than stopping and making the catch.
May 4th, 2012 at 8:41 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 8:38 am
Johnson ran past Jerome Boyd like he was in quick sand.
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I think he also ran right past Mike Mitchell on their lst TD if I remember right.
May 4th, 2012 at 8:43 am
It wasn’t the right defense! Offensive players move around?! You can move around on defense too, and you can always call a TO (can’t remember if we had one).
May 4th, 2012 at 8:44 am
The right defense would have been routt on cj with zone help
May 4th, 2012 at 8:49 am
Marks Hair Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 8:44 am
The right defense would have been routt on cj with zone help
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That’s what I said. They were, And then they moved CJ. You can’t move zone players around at the snap. They’re in a zone. Get it.
May 4th, 2012 at 8:54 am
Calvin Johnson had 217 yards that game. Should we blame the players, or the DC that can’t stop one player!!!
May 4th, 2012 at 8:54 am
Marks Hair Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 8:44 am
The right defense would have been routt on cj with zone help
$$$$$$$$$
Thank you!
May 4th, 2012 at 8:56 am
He said zone HELP, and I’m Assuming he was talking about the Ss.
May 4th, 2012 at 8:57 am
Double team the guy that has 200 yards!!
May 4th, 2012 at 9:00 am
If your DC knows Calvin is their best player (same with Welker and the Pats), and you still allow that player to have a great game, then you are a moron.
Chucky = Moron = drunk nudist monkey.
May 4th, 2012 at 9:00 am
Double team the guy that has 200 yards!!
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Agreed….make someone else beat you.
May 4th, 2012 at 9:01 am
Damn You Chucky!
May 4th, 2012 at 9:04 am
Raiders signed Cedric Benson.
May 4th, 2012 at 9:07 am
Can you provide a link Dakota?
May 4th, 2012 at 9:10 am
760.Raider O Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 9:07 am
Can you provide a link Dakota?
LOL…
May 4th, 2012 at 9:10 am
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/oakland-raiders-sign-cedric-benson-185100945–nfl.html
May 4th, 2012 at 9:12 am
LOL
I admire your effort, but I was talking about a real link.
May 4th, 2012 at 9:14 am
Do we have a missing link here?
May 4th, 2012 at 9:18 am
Bills CB Florence was released.
May 4th, 2012 at 9:19 am
I could never figure out the appeal of “reporting” bogus news and posting fake links.
Is it just the thrill of manipulating people, or is it something else?
May 4th, 2012 at 9:22 am
At this point I think Ryan Grant is much more likely than Ced Benson, although I think Benson is the better compliment to DMAC
May 4th, 2012 at 9:22 am
A White Man Manipulating people with lies!! No… That never happened.
May 4th, 2012 at 9:25 am
I don’t want either Grant or Benson. We have enough RB’s on the roster. Let’s see what we got in Goodman or else why did we bother trading for him in the first place?
May 4th, 2012 at 9:27 am
Raider O Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 9:22 am
A White Man Manipulating people with lies!! No… That never happened.
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Oh, jeez. Here we go…
May 4th, 2012 at 9:29 am
Wait, wait WAIT!
Dakota is white?
May 4th, 2012 at 9:30 am
Damn you Gen. Custer!
May 4th, 2012 at 9:35 am
Trade Pryor for a drunk nudist monkey!
May 4th, 2012 at 9:37 am
Let’s see what we got in Goodman or else why did we bother trading for him in the first place?
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@G123
Goodson is a fumbling injury-proned menace to victory
sound familiar, BSJ?
May 4th, 2012 at 9:38 am
769.guest123 Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 9:25 am
I don’t want either Grant or Benson. We have enough RB’s on the roster. Let’s see what we got in Goodman or else why did we bother trading for him in the first place?
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We have DMac. Goodson, and TJones. We know about DMac and his injury potential, and TJones proved not to be able to stay healthy and didn’t contribute anything when he made it on the field. Goodson is another small quick back like TJones. The other RBs on the roster are camp fodder, nothing more. Benson or Grant would be very valuable to us, especially if McFadden gets knicked up again
May 4th, 2012 at 9:40 am
Good Morning Raider Nation!
May 4th, 2012 at 9:41 am
Afternoon Ray
May 4th, 2012 at 9:41 am
Good Morning.
“Let’s see what we got in Goodman or else why did we bother trading for him in the first place?”
-we gave up very little in that trade.
May 4th, 2012 at 9:43 am
Benson or Grant would be very valuable to us, especially if McFadden gets knicked up again
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co-signed, Bcz!
Lions made an offer to Grant yesterday – per pft
Benson is begging for us to sign him on twitter, I guess (don’t have an acct)
If we can’t get one of these guys, I’ll take Thomas Jones or Lady Tomlinson. However, the zbs is VERY rb friendly
I wouldn’t be a bit surprised to see Lonyae Miller, Brandon Rutley or Rashawn Jackson get an opportunity and make the most of it!!
May 4th, 2012 at 9:44 am
I’m joking with Dakota.
May 4th, 2012 at 9:44 am
-we gave up very little in that trade.
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Lets be honest, we traded a guy who had little to no realistic shot to even make the roster for a guy who will actually produce in games, at the very least Goodson will be productive in the return game. He is a lot better than “an injury prone, fumbling menace to victory” that Rock called him. 6 of his 7 career fumbles came in one season, everyone knows that is a mental thing. Besides, 2 years ago DMac was considered a fumbling machine too, he seems to have cured himself of this.
May 4th, 2012 at 9:45 am
Rockstar, I thought you had a twitter? Did you close it?
May 4th, 2012 at 9:47 am
I would love to sign Tomlinson, if for nothing else, than to see him run roughshod on the chargers. That dude is a great locker room guy, and would work wonders with young guys like jones and goodson.
May 4th, 2012 at 9:48 am
Bruce Campbell was going to get axed anyway. kid is a physical speciman, but not a football player. otherwise Reggie would have kept him [was making peanuts and we needed O-Liners]
Goodson was basically our replacement for Cartwright. a ST guy
May 4th, 2012 at 9:50 am
Rockstar, I thought you had a twitter? Did you close it?
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@hwnrdr
I had an acct for about 2 weeks, before I lost interest and closed it
May 4th, 2012 at 9:52 am
RG Mike Brisiel was Reggie’s prized FA signing of the offseason, if you think about it.
then his first draft pick was used on OL Bergstrom.
both guys well versed in the zbs
Reggie wouldn’t have traded BCamp if he was even worthy of a backup role imo
May 4th, 2012 at 9:52 am
Yes familiar to me RRS. Stick to quoting me if yo want to appear lucid.
May 4th, 2012 at 9:53 am
I liked B Campbell. He is a freak, and I would have liked us to spend more time trying to develop him.
May 4th, 2012 at 9:55 am
Stick to quoting me if yo want to appear lucid
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“Prez B.O. sucks, I’m voting for Romney”
-Bo Schembechler Jackson
May 4th, 2012 at 9:56 am
We traded away Bruce Campbell, than promptly used our first of limited draft picks on the position he played.
Tells you exactly how the organization viewed his supposed “potential”.
May 4th, 2012 at 9:57 am
Besides, 2 years ago DMac was considered a fumbling machine too, he seems to have cured himself of this.
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Strange how a permanent walking boot and a fear of needles can keep a guy from coughing up the pelota.
May 4th, 2012 at 9:58 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 9:55 am
Stick to quoting me if yo want to appear lucid
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“Prez B.O. sucks, I’m voting for Romney”
-Bo Schembechler Jackson
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Wish sandwich.
May 4th, 2012 at 9:58 am
785.RaiderRockstar Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 9:50 am
Rockstar, I thought you had a twitter? Did you close it?
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@hwnrdr
I had an acct for about 2 weeks, before I lost interest and closed it
Gotcha!
May 4th, 2012 at 10:02 am
I never got the whole “potential” thing for Bruce Campbell.
He wasn’t very good at college. Not even honorable mention ACC, which would have meant he was one of the best 5 tackles out of 12 teams. He wasn’t.
He played in the preseason, against teams 3rd and 4th stringers, and was awful. He had 3 penalties on one drive against Seattle’s scrubs in a preseason game.
Where was the potential? Because he won the underwear Olympics, he had football potential?
It was a tad absurd, the whole Bruce Campbell hype.
May 4th, 2012 at 10:03 am
RR,
I don’t like twitter or Facebook.
May 4th, 2012 at 10:05 am
795.Raider O Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 10:03 am
RR,
I don’t like twitter or Facebook.
I hardly do anything on Twitter and not as active as I used to be on FB…but on there to keep in touch with Family…Phillipines, Hawaii, etc…
May 4th, 2012 at 10:08 am
“I don’t like twitter or Facebook.”
Me either waste of time and basically its for 13 year old girls.
Nothing is gayer than hearing about what an athlete tweeted!
May 4th, 2012 at 10:08 am
B Campbell was very athletic for his size, but he needed time to learn the position. He played DT in HS as I remember.
The kid had potential, but he needed someone to develop him. He was raw.
He was a Freak with Potential….period. Get over it!
May 4th, 2012 at 10:11 am
I am addicted to Twitter for the breaking news. Everything happens on Twitter first.
May 4th, 2012 at 10:11 am
Hwnrdr,
You have to stay in touch with the family. like to use emails, phones, and Skype.
May 4th, 2012 at 10:12 am
I read twitter, but I don’t have an account. I don’t like being that exposed.
May 4th, 2012 at 10:13 am
He was a Freak with Potential….period. Get over it!
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I have to disagree. Campbell had 0 potential. He won’t make Carolina’s roster either. He will be camp fodder.
Tom Cable is considered one of the best ZBS coaches, and look what Wylie did for the rest of our line last year, and neither of those guys would give Campbell even the opportunity to suit up on game day.
May 4th, 2012 at 10:14 am
Hwnrdr,
I love me some Lumpia!! With some sweet sauce!
May 4th, 2012 at 10:15 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 10:02 am
I never got the whole “potential” thing for Bruce Campbell.
He wasn’t very good at college. Not even honorable mention ACC, which would have meant he was one of the best 5 tackles out of 12 teams. He wasn’t.
He played in the preseason, against teams 3rd and 4th stringers, and was awful. He had 3 penalties on one drive against Seattle’s scrubs in a preseason game.
Where was the potential? Because he won the underwear Olympics, he had football potential?
It was a tad absurd, the whole Bruce Campbell hype.
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It’s because some 2010 mocks had us picking him in Round 1, so we got the idea we were getting a Round 1 talent in Round 4.
In reality, he had the body of a #1 overall draft pick and the football ability of…you or I, actually.
May 4th, 2012 at 10:15 am
RRS sticks to myspace, so I’m told.
lol
May 4th, 2012 at 10:17 am
Raider O Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 10:12 am
I don’t like being that exposed.
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No worries Mustafa. You one hairy monkey!
May 4th, 2012 at 10:19 am
I’m with you guys on not being down with Facebook and Twitter.
Folks really have too much time on their hands, I guess.
What’s funny is when someone you’re with – whether at a gathering or lunch meeting, whatever – takes time out to ‘update’ or post to their Facebook account. Makes me want to grab their phone and shove it down their throat.
Folks have become so digital that actual meaningful relationships no longer have a place in their lives. Sad.
May 4th, 2012 at 10:19 am
BTW, you guys see me dominate the last chat?
Stevie pretty much confirmed he thought the Seymour deal was a huge brainfart.
And I did get in a Free Beeecham.
Who trolled KK though?
May 4th, 2012 at 10:19 am
RRS sticks to myspace, so I’m told
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Link? Source?
May 4th, 2012 at 10:20 am
I love me some Lumpia!!
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Boy Howdy!
May 4th, 2012 at 10:20 am
Potential is a figment of imagination.
Either you can play or you can’t.
May 4th, 2012 at 10:20 am
766.RaiderDuck Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 9:19 am
I could never figure out the appeal of “reporting” bogus news and posting fake links.
Is it just the thrill of manipulating people, or is it something else?
768.Raider O Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 9:22 am
A White Man Manipulating people with lies!! No… That never happened.
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Yes.
May 4th, 2012 at 10:21 am
Bcz,
He is not ready to suit up on game day. He needs to be developed. He was raw.
May 4th, 2012 at 10:22 am
LMAO Preppie. That’s true!
May 4th, 2012 at 10:22 am
800.Raider O Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 10:11 am
Hwnrdr,
You have to stay in touch with the family. like to use emails, phones, and Skype.
Yeah but when time is pressed…I guess that way I know they are alive and vice versa
And Lumpia…YES!!! If you come up for a game this year, every game, I bring at least 2 bags of lumpia! Always a good treat!
May 4th, 2012 at 10:22 am
The wife and I share a FB page, but I never go on there.
Someone sends you a message, you feel obliged to respond back, but you take a day or two because it AIN’T that important, and before you can log off after replying, they already fired one back to you.
I can see twitter for the news angle aspect though.
May 4th, 2012 at 10:24 am
I am pretty much done with work today! What can we talk about?
Politics?
NBA Basketball?
May 4th, 2012 at 10:25 am
RIP MCA from the Beastie Boys!
May 4th, 2012 at 10:25 am
Good column Jerry.
May 4th, 2012 at 10:25 am
Ditto, JFB.
same here
May 4th, 2012 at 10:26 am
so we all agree, Nuggets by 4 tonight?
May 4th, 2012 at 10:26 am
Hwnrdr Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 10:25 am
RIP MCA from the Beastie Boys!
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So sad dude. Grew up listening to the Beastie Boys. Still liked their stuff. Legend.
May 4th, 2012 at 10:27 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 10:20 am
Potential is a figment of imagination.
Either you can play or you can’t.
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Interesting. Can you explain why there are so many coaches in the NFL and sports in general, and what do we need do many if they are useless?
May 4th, 2012 at 10:28 am
Celtics & Bulls need a statement win tonight.
otherwise these series might go to 7 games and they’ll get trucked in RD2
May 4th, 2012 at 10:28 am
Why* do we need so* many…
May 4th, 2012 at 10:28 am
Beastie Boys music = always been gey
sucks that dude passed though
May 4th, 2012 at 10:28 am
HELL YEAH!!!!! YOU OUT OF TOWNERS ARE TAKING A ONE WAY BEATING THIS MORNING!!!!! YOU SAID IT COULD NOT BE DONE, YOU WERE WRONG!!! MY BELOVED GREEN AND GOLD WILL REMAIN WHERE THEY BELONG IN OAKLAND!!!!!!
lets recap
1.) The new coliseum city plan is unveiled & receives major support from our city council.
2.)HKS ( major player in building state of the art sports & entertainment districts and complexes, built lucas oil for iny, and texas stadium for the cow pies) jumps on board to begin studying feasibility and putting together designs……
And now this, readm’ and weep everything is falling into place.
http://www.insidebayarea.com/oakland-tribune/ci_20542663/oakland-business-leaders-step-up-keep-oakland
May 4th, 2012 at 10:29 am
Coaches jobs are too improve the players. Everyone can improve, just like Bruce Campbell.
But while we ask guys like Briesel, and Carlisle to improve, they are improving as NFL starters.
We were asking Cambpell to improve from basically a guy that is not even wanted on gameday.
So thus, his potential to me, was vastly overrated.
May 4th, 2012 at 10:31 am
821.RaiderRockstar Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 10:26 am
so we all agree, Nuggets by 4 tonight?
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Lakers by 13.
May 4th, 2012 at 10:33 am
The A’s may stay in Oakland, but they should send half the players back to Sacramento.
And of course, you can’t force Wolf to sell, unless he goes through some Dodgers type bankruptcy thing (not happening).
He said he is “not a seller”. We shall see.
May 4th, 2012 at 10:33 am
if you’re a 23 year old dude who is 6′6″ 315 lbs drafted in RD4 out of Maryland heading into your 3rd NFL season … you’re gonna be expected to know how to play football
even as a backup, Bruce Campbell had no value to Reggie [who has the reputation of an excellent talent evaluator]
May 4th, 2012 at 10:34 am
R.I.P. Adam Yauch
from the Beastie Boys…apparently died of cancer. Tragedies really do happen in 2’s (first Junior Seau)
May 4th, 2012 at 10:37 am
Vegas,
How many players are you allowed to have on your final roster? How many can suit up on game day? Also, don’t forget about the PS.
May 4th, 2012 at 10:38 am
813.Raider O Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 10:21 am
Bcz,
He is not ready to suit up on game day. He needs to be developed. He was raw.
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We just agree to disagree I suppose.
May 4th, 2012 at 10:39 am
Hwnrdr,
You are a very kind man sir, and I appreciate your offer. Thank you, and I will do my best to make it up north for a home game. Part of me wants to stay unemployed, so I can have time to make the trip. lol
May 4th, 2012 at 10:39 am
Final roster is 53 I believe, and you can have 45 on gameday.
Someone will clean that up if need be.
May 4th, 2012 at 10:39 am
@831
RRS, the eye in the sky don’t lie. Reggie McK saw Beast’s game and made quick work of shipping him outta Oakland STAT. Of course Carolina saw the same film, but figured he’s a project that can be coached up if put back in as a tackle.
Goodson/Campbell is a decent gamble both ways imo.
If they sign Benson or Grant or some other FA RB, it’s pretty telling of what they think of Goodson. But if they stand pat, Goodson’s the man.
May 4th, 2012 at 10:40 am
I would have liked to have kept Bruce Campbell to see what the new coaching staff could make of him. Thought we could pick up a RB at any time.
Oh well. I won’t agree with everything Reggie does, just most of it!
May 4th, 2012 at 10:41 am
I guess we are not one of the teams wit rookie camp starting today?
May 4th, 2012 at 10:42 am
835.Raider O Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 10:39 am
Hwnrdr,
You are a very kind man sir, and I appreciate your offer. Thank you, and I will do my best to make it up north for a home game. Part of me wants to stay unemployed, so I can have time to make the trip. lol
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You could always become a professional protester and Pelosi will pay you under the table! Just refrain from taking a shower for a month, grow out your beard, and say some crazy stuff….I am sure that would come natural to you as a sleeper cell operative!
May 4th, 2012 at 10:42 am
Bcz & Vegas,
I’m not trying to argue, but why have the PS and the extra space on the roster, if we are not going to develop Raw players?
May 4th, 2012 at 10:44 am
Going back to yesterday’s strange names stuff, here is an article about some interesting town names.
I guess the favorite is Intercourse, PA although the town of Hell sounds like fun.
http://mediagallery.usatoday.com/Peculiar+places+in+the+USA/G3807
Hey, its not my fault it is off season.
May 4th, 2012 at 10:44 am
I’m not trying to argue, but why have the PS and the extra space on the roster, if we are not going to develop Raw players?
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I guess there are different levels of rawness, and probabilities attached to one’s ability to reach his potential.
Lochness Campbell was at the bottom end of these levels apparentely.
May 4th, 2012 at 10:47 am
The best part of the Bruce Campbell hysteria, is when he finally made it back to practice last year around mid-season, and it was during the media window.
So Jerry was tweeting that he got some run with the 1’s, and he blocked well on one play and so on. This place was jumping “Beast Campbell!!!”, here he comes.
Thaaaaaan…….about 5 minutes into it, he leaves the field with a pinky injury, lol. About sums up the Bruce Campbell era to me.
May 4th, 2012 at 10:48 am
Does the NFL have some sort of outreach program where these former troubled players can go for help when they are messed up? You would think that the NFL was aware that Junior might have attempted suicide when he drove his vehicle off a cliff, and should have reached out to him to provide support.
Not that I am blaming the NFL of course, ultimately no one can prevent a person who is intent on killing themselves from doing so, but I wonder if the attempt was made?
May 4th, 2012 at 10:48 am
White Devil,
If you are going to use stereotypes, why focus on just the extreme/ negative? Try liquor store owner, used car salesman, or military advisor/ translator.
May 4th, 2012 at 10:50 am
Does the NFL have some sort of outreach program where these former troubled players can go for help when they are messed up?
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It’s called lifetime health insurance and go call your fkn doctor like everyone else in the world.
May 4th, 2012 at 10:51 am
846.Raider O Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 10:48 am
White Devil,
If you are going to use stereotypes, why focus on just the extreme/ negative? Try liquor store owner, used car salesman, or military advisor/ translator.
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LOL, that why you are the man RaiderO! You can take a joke.
May 4th, 2012 at 10:51 am
I forgot to add can driver.
May 4th, 2012 at 10:52 am
If they sign Benson or Grant or some other FA RB, it’s pretty telling of what they think of Goodson. But if they stand pat, Goodson’s the man.
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@G123
I’m not so sure. I think Goodson would be the favorite for #3RB, but as stated earlier:
I wouldn’t be a bit surprised to see Lonyae Miller, Brandon Rutley or Rashawn Jackson get an opportunity and make the most of it!!
it’s an open competition. no scholarships. he’s not going to be assured of anything
May 4th, 2012 at 10:52 am
849.Raider O Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 10:51 am
I forgot to add can driver.
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I know some of you are small, but really?
May 4th, 2012 at 10:53 am
LOL
May 4th, 2012 at 10:54 am
R.I.P MCA!!!!!!!! The Bestie boys are the only white rappers I have ever liked or respected. Simply because they had their own flavor and were not trying to be anything other than what they are, unlike emm, and others. “my name is MCA i got a license to kill, i think you know what time it is its time to get ill’ – MCA circa 1986
http://youtu.be/tEM3dW2oWW4
May 4th, 2012 at 10:54 am
LOL @ Raider O calling people “White Devil” !!
O = Khalif Barnes?
May 4th, 2012 at 10:54 am
I wouldn’t be a bit surprised to see Lonyae Miller, Brandon Rutley or Rashawn Jackson get an opportunity and make the most of it!!
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Huh? Who? Is this a boy band or something?
May 4th, 2012 at 10:55 am
I am sure Junior Seau had access to the best physcological evaluators, and mental health experts if not in the state, in the country.
These guys just have to much pride to sit in the leather chair and let some pip-squeek dork psycho-analyze them.
May 4th, 2012 at 10:55 am
821.RaiderRockstar Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 10:26 am
so we all agree, Nuggets by 4 tonight?
I can see Denver playing really hard for their home crowd tonight…but, we’ll see…which Bynum shows up tonight!
May 4th, 2012 at 10:56 am
Palestinians, Syrians, and Egyptians are not small. People from Arabia (desert areas mainly) tend to be smaller, but that’s due to their environment.
May 4th, 2012 at 10:57 am
853.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 10:54 am
R.I.P MCA!!!!!!!! The Bestie boys are the only white rappers I have ever liked or respected. Simply because they had their own flavor and were not trying to be anything other than what they are, unlike emm, and others. “my name is MCA i got a license to kill, i think you know what time it is its time to get ill’ – MCA circa 1986
http://youtu.be/tEM3dW2oWW4
Yup, that’s it right there Mistic…Paul Revere was the sh*t…in fact, classic album…Licensed to Ill!!!
May 4th, 2012 at 10:58 am
O, no problem bro…you make it up here, we got the lumpia…along with many other things…DMAC, B, Dirt Lot, etc…you just never know!
May 4th, 2012 at 10:58 am
RR,
Calling Dakota not people. I don’t think you are a devil. I think the White Devil is sticking it to you as much as he is sticking it to the rest of us.
May 4th, 2012 at 10:58 am
I can see Denver playing really hard for their home crowd tonight…but, we’ll see…which Bynum shows up tonight!
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@ Hwnrdr
I didn’t think Denver had any fans left after they pitched Iverson, Melo, K-Mart, Nene, JR Smith & Billups ??
I think there might be more Laker fans in Denver tonight than Nugget fans. You guys could sit Kobe tonight and still win imo
May 4th, 2012 at 11:00 am
Calling Dakota not people. I don’t think you are a devil. I think the White Devil is sticking it to you as much as he is sticking it to the rest of us.
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Attn: Raider O
‘White Devil’ has plenty of access to guns at the pawn shop and it’s a down economy. I’d just leave the man alone
May 4th, 2012 at 11:00 am
862.RaiderRockstar Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 10:58 am
I can see Denver playing really hard for their home crowd tonight…but, we’ll see…which Bynum shows up tonight!
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@ Hwnrdr
I didn’t think Denver had any fans left after they pitched Iverson, Melo, K-Mart, Nene, JR Smith & Billups ??
I think there might be more Laker fans in Denver tonight than Nugget fans. You guys could sit Kobe tonight and still win imo
LOL, well, aren’t they the highest scoring team in the NBA? If not, one of the top? I think maybe…they will sit Kobe if Lakers win tonight!
May 4th, 2012 at 11:02 am
Sounds Great Hwnrdr. Great people, great food, and I know DMAC will share his trees with his brother and party member.
May 4th, 2012 at 11:03 am
LOL RR. He is also an ex CIA agent.
May 4th, 2012 at 11:04 am
865.Raider O Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 11:02 am
Sounds Great Hwnrdr. Great people, great food, and I know DMAC will share his trees with his brother and party member.
LOL, that is pretty much guaranteed! If not him, one of my tailgaters always has greenery!
May 4th, 2012 at 11:05 am
@ RRS,
I seriously doubt any of those stiffs could make it on an active NFL roster. Goodson is a pedigree apart from them. Just as DMC is a pedigree apart from Goodson. If they bring in another vet, Goodson will be a longshot to make it out of camp. Not that competition is a bad thing. It’s just that if they want Goodson to compete with Grant or Benson, he’s probably just camp fodder.
I have high hopes for Goodson, but if they bring in a vet, I think he becomes a darkhorse immediately.
May 4th, 2012 at 11:05 am
aren’t they the highest scoring team in the NBA? If not, one of the top?
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Denver is?
Really?
May 4th, 2012 at 11:08 am
I work with a few people in Denver, and they really like this team now that they got rid of the all the thugs they had for years.
Speaking of which, I got to do my favorite NBA pasttime yesterday, pause the game when a player is on the free-throw line and read his neck tattoo’s.
JR Smith apparently gave himself (never a good idea) the nickname “Young Money”. So he also created an insigna for Young Money, a YM that looks similar to the NY hats for the Yankee’s. That logo is tattoo’d in red right over his throat. He has Young Money in curvise written around it. On one side under his ear, he has two different YM’s, and on the other side he has two different money symbols.
I am sure it will look real smoove when he is 45 and broke, lol.
May 4th, 2012 at 11:09 am
LOL Hwnrdr, and that’s why I can’t leave CA.
May 4th, 2012 at 11:12 am
869.RaiderRockstar Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 11:05 am
aren’t they the highest scoring team in the NBA? If not, one of the top?
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Denver is?
Really?
I believe so…they averaged 104 points a game in the regular season…
May 4th, 2012 at 11:13 am
871.Raider O Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 11:09 am
LOL Hwnrdr, and that’s why I can’t leave CA.
Well, you can…just go to Hawaii! My brother ALWAYS has it on him!!! Seriously!
May 4th, 2012 at 11:14 am
I’d take Benson over Grant any day. Benson has rushed for over 1000 yrs. the last 3 seasons. Perfect replacement for bush and said he would take the league minimum to be a raider.
May 4th, 2012 at 11:16 am
#827,
From your link:
“But if the co-owners can’t commit to Oakland or don’t want to, he continued, a group of investors from the Bay Area and elsewhere in California are willing to buy the A’s to keep the team here. It was not clear how much the potential buyers would be willing to pay for a new ballpark. And Knauss declined to discuss details, saying the preference is to work with the current owners before revealing specifics about possible investors.”
As a life-long A’s fan, I’ve heard this song before. The team has twice been sold to owners who wanted to keep the team in Oakland, the first as a matter of civic pride (the Levi Strauss family, the best owners any team in America could hope to have), the second, investors who thought a young winning team would bring both fans and the city around.
Uh huh. Well, the city did come around. It built Mt. Davis, and turned a football stadium that was once a serviceable, even attractive place for baseball (recall the springtime/summer landscaping in the outfield? The engaged, joyous bleacher bums? The drum-banging– “Te-ja-da, Te-ja-da,Te-ja-da”) into an ugly spectre.
Oh, and the City of Oakland? Never has the city ever committed, I mean really committed to building a real baseball park. Furthermore, it’s beyond my reason to conclude the City *can* contribute anything to this process other than stalling, waiting for some savior.(What do they have to contribute? What does any city in American have to contribute? They’re broke. Further, why should non-sports fans have any of their tax dollars go to such endeavors when the last 30 years of studies have shown that revenues from well-attended sports complexes do not replace the taxpayer/government investments? It’s a myth that they do, a mythical talking point.
Any buyers who, as did the Strauss family, believe they can turn things around if only the city will be a willing partner, are crazy.
They’ll buy. Things will be hunky dory for a time, then the same cycle will repeat itself.
It will make it harder for me to travel to see them, but San Jose really is the place for the A’s.
It would be a m
May 4th, 2012 at 11:18 am
833.Raider O Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 10:37 am
Vegas,
How many players are you allowed to have on your final roster? How many can suit up on game day? Also, don’t forget about the PS.
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53 on the final roster, 46 can suit on game day (only 7 offensive lineman can suit) and 8 PS guys, I don’t think BC was eligible for the PS anymore, but he may have been.
May 4th, 2012 at 11:23 am
“Sad to think the human emotion and psyche is so fragile.”
Depression is the result of biochemical reactions just as is the narrowing of arteries. We’ve come to understand that, for the most part, emotions (or “the psyche”, if you prefer) are the result of those physiological reactions, not the cause of them.
May 4th, 2012 at 11:25 am
I’d take Benson over Grant any day. Benson has rushed for over 1000 yrs. the last 3 seasons. Perfect replacement for bush and said he would take the league minimum to be a raider.
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co-signed, IRJ!
May 4th, 2012 at 11:29 am
The question is…do we even have enough money to pay vet minimum? I hear we are about $50k under the cap as of now. Tell me I heard this wrong please.
May 4th, 2012 at 11:29 am
I don’t think BC was eligible for the PS anymore, but he may have been.
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@bcz
Both rookies and young veterans are eligible for the practice squad. However, a player cannot participate on the practice squad for more than three seasons, or if he has accrued a year of NFL experience (six or more games on a club’s 53-man active roster or official Injured Reserve list.) If the player was on the active list for fewer than 9 games during their “only Accrued Season(s)”, he maintains his eligibility for the practice squad. Games in which a player is listed as the third-string quarterback (a designation that has been abolished as of 2011) do not count as being on the active list.
Practice squad players practice alongside regular roster players during the week, but they are not allowed to play in actual games. They can be paid considerably less than active squad players: The minimum salary from 2008 to 2010 is $5,200 per week (2008-2010) for 17 weeks, or $88,400 per season, in comparison to the NFL minimum rookie salary of $285,000. Some practice squad players are paid considerably more, however. In 2006, the New England Patriots paid third-year player Billy Yates the full $425,000 he would have earned on the active roster.
Players can be promoted to the active roster of their current team or to that of any other team. They have free agent status and can sign with any team they wish without compensation to the original team, if they are released from the practice squad. Additionally, the NFL has a program through which foreign players may be assigned to teams’ practice squads, called the International Practice Squad Program – WIKI
May 4th, 2012 at 11:30 am
Benson would be a much better “big” back than twinkle toes.
But he wouldn’t rip off some of the big gainers that Bush did.
May 4th, 2012 at 11:32 am
BCZ POST-876.I THOUGHT THEY EXPANDED THE ROSTERS STARTING THIS YEAR..I MAY HAVE MIS READ THOUGH..
May 4th, 2012 at 11:34 am
607.Raider O Says:
May 3rd, 2012 at 8:52 pm
DJ,
Great purchase. You can’t go wrong with 2000+ Toyota corolla for under 1000.
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Thx. I just re-sold it for 2,800.
May 4th, 2012 at 11:34 am
LMAO Hwnrdr. Hawaii is in the list for sure.
May 4th, 2012 at 11:34 am
do we even have enough money to pay vet minimum?
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@G123
only your highest paid 51 players count against the cap right now, so I’m guessing none of the rookies or undrafted kids will count
I don’t think anybody from last year’s draft class will count either – except maybe Wiz II
Palmer, Curry, Seymour & Huff all restructured.. so it’s guys like McClain, Kelly, McFadden & Heyward-Bey killing our ability to sign anybody right now. Branch holding out also doesn’t help. When he comes to terms with Reggie on a long-term deal, it’ll help.
Seabass & Shane should also be restructured & extended!
May 4th, 2012 at 11:36 am
Anyone else getting the Money Mayweather fight tomorrow?
What’s up in Vegas Ray? What is the line on Floyd too if you know?
May 4th, 2012 at 11:36 am
Kinda of dead in here. Heres some Q&A on Crawford are No. 158 Overall.
The Raiders selected Penn State defensive end Jack Crawford in the fifth round of the NFL draft, No. 158 overall. Following is the transcript of his conference call with Bay Area reporters from just after his selection on Saturday…
Question: Did you know the Raiders were interested in you?
Answer: Yeah, the Raiders were one of the teams I was close to from the beginning, since the Combine. It was good to see them come through and give me an opportunity like this.
Q: Did they have you out here for a visit?
A: No.
Q: Have you taken a moment to reflect how unlikely this is, given how long and how far you’ve come?
A: It’s crazy. It’s a little emotional right now, everybody is crying. It’s so unlikely. I told myself coming into this situation that I wasn’t going to get upset if I didn’t get drafted. I have come so far already. I am just so happy. This is one of the best days of my life.
Q: You worked out with Tre Thomas. How much did that help you?
A: Yeah. He is just so insightful and he has so much experience. It was good to see things from an offensive tackle’s perspective. It helped me out so much. He told me things that I didn’t know. The small things that you don’t recognize in a game. Helped me mentally a lot.
Q: How soon before you reach out to Stefen Wisniewski and ask about the Raiders?
A: I was just living with Stef Wisniewski at the offseason training up at Penn State. I stayed with him, and I was asking him about the Raiders. He had nothing but good things to say, and now I can be his teammate again. It’s a good feeling.
Q: You had a dip in production your junior year. What happened there?
A: I got hurt. I sprained a ligament in my right foot and it was just hard, because instead of having the surgery, I decided to let it heal a little bit and try and come back. I didn’t give myself enough time to heal up and I could never play up to my full potential.
Q: When did you make the transition in your mind from basketball player to football player?
A: It was the first year I played. Stepping on that football field for the first time, it was a feeling I never had before. I liked how it was a physical game. I grew up playing rugby and stepping on the football field, there was just a lot more excitement. When I started to get more of a feel for the game, I became more and more intrigued by it.
Q: Did you watch football growing up?
A: A little bit. Not so much. I couldn’t really follow it like you can in America.
Q: Because you haven’t played a lot, do you feel like you have a lot of room to grow?
A: That’s the one thing about me, I always feel like I have room to improve. That’s my mindset. And that’s what’s gotten me to where I am now.
Q: How did you discover football? What was the reason you played for the first time?
A: Just watching a game in high school, it looked fun. I liked the contact, the physical part of it, that’s what brought me over to the sport.
Q: How does a guy go from not playing football to being recruited by Penn State in two years?
A: (Laughs) That’s crazy, man. My high school coach told me, when I stepped on the field, just told me a little bit about the positions I’d be playing, defensive end and wide receiver and then he just told me, on defense, just go get the ball. And that’s what I did for him. Every play I lined up, I took off and tried to get back to the running back as much as possible. And one thing I think helped me was just my work ethic. I used to always do the extra part just to try to get better.
Q: What did the Raiders coaches say to you when they got you on the phone?
A: They said, congratulations. They said, We expect you to keep showing us the motor that you showed on the tape. Keep working harder now you’re here because this is about football now; celebrate with your family for tonight and then get ready for mini-camp when it starts because it’s about football.
Q: What were you trying to prove to scouts and coaches through this process?
A: I think the biggest thing I’m trying to show is that, I think physically I’m just as able as any other defensive end in the draft and I think that whatever they need me to do, whatever they want me to do, I’m not going to stop working until I get to that point where they’re satisfied and I’m satisfied with my performance. I really want to bring a lot to the table and I think that I’m happy that I got drafted, but for me this is the beginning. This is where I have to improve myself so I can help the Raiders and hopefully help us win the Super Bowl.
Q: Preparing to not get drafted, what’s this process been like for you?
A: It’s crazy, it’s weird because I don’t know what the coaches think. I don’t know how people rank different players and stuff and I don’t know what different coaches want. I talk to different teams with different rankings and you just never know. So a lot of these mock drafts, I don’t like to look at them, but a lot of them had me going undrafted or sixth round, seventh round, and I just kind of been hoping for the best the whole time, kind of prayed and hoped everything went well. But when I finally got the call, the waiting was hard…my while family was here, I had to watch it. But when I got that phone call it was just a relief. Now I really get an opportunity to showcase what I have.
Q: Where are you right now?
A: I’m at my family’s place in New Jersey, my host family, in Atlantic City, New Jersey.
Q: Did your whole family move to America from England?
A: My real family still lives in London. They still live there and I keep in contact with them, closely. Ever since I’ve lived in America I’ve lived with a host family, like a big Italian family and they treat me like their family, they treat me like real family out there so I feel lucky. I feel blessed to be with them and for them, they support me and treat me like their son.
Q: What’s the name of that family?
A: Dandrea family. D-A-N-D-R-E-A.
Q: You grew up in London, Arsenal supporter?
A: Yeah, yeah (laughs).
Q: Thank you, congratulations.
A: Thank you so much, man.
May 4th, 2012 at 11:37 am
Wat up Beyotches!!!!!
May 4th, 2012 at 11:38 am
881.Just Fire Baby Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 11:30 am
Benson would be a much better “big” back than twinkle toes.
But he wouldn’t rip off some of the big gainers that Bush did.
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I don’t know. Seems like the big runs Bush had were running through a huge, gaping opening untouched.
I’ve seen Benson when he’s in a groove hit it for 12-13 yd. pops, mixed in with no gainers and 1 yd. plunges. Haven’t seen him break the long one though.
May 4th, 2012 at 11:39 am
I think Grant fits our ZBS better than Benson. He’d fit a need and be a complementary back to DMC. A good one cut and go runner.
Benson has a history of getting arrested every season. He’s trouble waiting to happen. Last time it was because he beat up his livein boyfriend. I just don’t want that dude in S&B.
Give my Grant please.
May 4th, 2012 at 11:39 am
I think BSJ will get his wish very soon, as we will find someone other than Condo who can snap, for less pay.
And when he fires one over Shane’s head, we can all line up and give BSJ a group noogie.
May 4th, 2012 at 11:41 am
891.Just Fire Baby Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 11:39 am
I think BSJ will get his wish very soon, as we will find someone other than Condo who can snap, for less pay.
And when he fires one over Shane’s head, we can all line up and give BSJ a group noogie.
LOL
May 4th, 2012 at 11:42 am
six or more games on a club’s 53-man active roster or official Injured Reserve list.)
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Bruce was on our active 53 man roster for both years on the squad, therefore was not eligible for the PS
May 4th, 2012 at 11:43 am
I am not expecting much from the Limey in the draft.
Sounds like he has some John Amaechi too him.
I have more expectations from the African dude.
May 4th, 2012 at 11:43 am
882.DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 11:32 am
BCZ POST-876.I THOUGHT THEY EXPANDED THE ROSTERS STARTING THIS YEAR..I MAY HAVE MIS READ THOUGH..
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negative. The camp rosters were expanded to 90 men (previously 80) but that happened in last years cba.
May 4th, 2012 at 11:44 am
DJ,
I have been trying to convince J to start selling cars on the side for extra income. Smart man. Keep up the good work.
May 4th, 2012 at 11:44 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 11:39 am
I think BSJ will get his wish very soon, as we will find someone other than Condo who can snap, for less pay.
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Nope. Best long snapper in the game, he will be here as long as Shane and Seabass are here.
May 4th, 2012 at 11:46 am
886.Just Fire Baby Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 11:36 am
Anyone else getting the Money Mayweather fight tomorrow?
What’s up in Vegas Ray? What is the line on Floyd too if you know?
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tvembed dot eu watch it free partner.
May 4th, 2012 at 11:46 am
Give Preppie a group noogie!
May 4th, 2012 at 11:47 am
Branch is officially the NFL’s first player accused of being a hold out in May.
May 4th, 2012 at 11:50 am
I use those free things for preseason games and stuff that is not that important, but I do enjoy my 60′ LED for big events.
I do have a google TV thing I guess I could use for those preseason games in the future.
May 4th, 2012 at 11:50 am
No noogies! Cut Condo!
May 4th, 2012 at 11:51 am
Vegas, u remember Treu blowing snaps?
GTFOH!
May 4th, 2012 at 11:52 am
Nope. Best long snapper in the game, he will be here as long as Shane and Seabass are here
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
You are the expert, so how much are we paying all 3?
May 4th, 2012 at 11:53 am
I’m not in to boxing enough for it to be worth $70 to watch it in HD.
May 4th, 2012 at 11:53 am
And BSJ continues his bizarre tirade against the team’s long-snapper, of all people…
May 4th, 2012 at 11:54 am
…and I hook my laptop up to my 55″ Bravia and watch it on there anyways. My “lap”top spends more time connected to my tv than on my lap. LOL
May 4th, 2012 at 11:54 am
I like all 3, and I don’t mind paying them, as long as it doesn’t count against the cap. I rather get a good CB or DE for around $10 million against the cap.
May 4th, 2012 at 11:55 am
Condo sux on coverage and everything else except bending over. Waste of a spot on the active 46.
May 4th, 2012 at 11:56 am
I do think Condo is the best in the biz, but if The Reggie is looking at “out-of-whack” contracts, that may be the whackiest.
I don’t pretend to know who the 2nd best long-snapper is, but I would be willing to bet he doesn’t make half of what Jonny Long-Hair makes.
May 4th, 2012 at 11:57 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 11:55 am
Condo sux on coverage and everything else except bending over. Waste of a spot on the active 46.
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So how many other team’s long snappers do ANYTHING but long-snap? I’m guessing less than half.
May 4th, 2012 at 11:58 am
$70 is crazy, but I got to watch my boy Money.
If he ever gets down with Manny, I am sure they will ask for over $100.
May 4th, 2012 at 11:59 am
…and I hook my laptop up to my 55″ Bravia and watch it on there anyways.
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Is it clear?
When I use the Google TV thing for Netflix or youtube, the pic quality blows.
May 4th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
Condo counts 1.175 against the cap this year, and 1.2 next year
Lechler is in the final year of his deal and counts 5.65
Seabass counts 1.7 this year and 3.8 next year
(*all these figures are in millions)
Figure on at least Lechler doing a new deal, and probably Janikowski. Condo just got his deal, and it is barely above league minimum for a vet player.
May 4th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
I rather watch the fight next week for free on HBO.
May 4th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
Raiders don’t retire numbers, so if there are 90 camp bodies, they barely have enough selection.
Question?
What about the teams that retire numbers like the Donkey’s? How do they have enough jersey numbers for camp?
May 4th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
bcz24 Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
Condo counts 1.175 against the cap this year, and 1.2 next year
Lechler is in the final year of his deal and counts 5.65
Seabass counts 1.7 this year and 3.8 next year
(*all these figures are in millions)
Figure on at least Lechler doing a new deal, and probably Janikowski. Condo just got his deal, and it is barely above league minimum for a vet player.
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A proverbial bargan at twice the price
May 4th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
Branch is officially the NFL’s first player accused of being a hold out in May.
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LOL!
consider the source, Bcz.
Anyways, have you noticed that other tagged players have signed the tender and went to work, leaving the long-term deal discussions to their agents??
May 4th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
I see they gave M. Leinart #7 jersey. That just makes it easier to hate him having Elway’s old number. lol
May 4th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
Is it clear?
When I use the Google TV thing for Netflix or youtube, the pic quality blows.
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All the movies I download are either in 720p or 1080p (depends on the movie, most movies are visually worth the space a 1080p movie takes up). I can also download 3D movies, but I dont have a 3D tv. The ability is there though
Netflix streams at the highest quality possible, most things on there are HD (720p), and rarely I find something in 480p… the key with netflix is wait about 10 minutes into the movie for it to fully buffer the HD stream
The events I watch through various p2p streaming sites are rarely better than standard definition, and mostly arent even that good, but it beats paying 60-70$ per event.
Anything on my computer (ie web browsing, games, programs) all appears on my tv in full 1080P
May 4th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
I see they gave M. Leinart #7 jersey. That just makes it easier to hate him having Elway’s old number.
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@G123
he wore #7 in Arizona, too.
was #11 at USC & Houston Texans – just FYI. Seabass wears that here
May 4th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
@ shutdown
#827,
From your link:
“But if the co-owners can’t commit to Oakland or don’t want to, he continued, a group of investors from the Bay Area and elsewhere in California are willing to buy the A’s to keep the team here. It was not clear how much the potential buyers would be willing to pay for a new ballpark. And Knauss declined to discuss details, saying the preference is to work with the current owners before revealing specifics about possible investors.”
As a life-long A’s fan, I’ve heard this song before. The team has twice been sold to owners who wanted to keep the team in Oakland, the first as a matter of civic pride (the Levi Strauss family, the best owners any team in America could hope to have), the second, investors who thought a young winning team would bring both fans and the city around.
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Not so fast, you have to take into account that the Coliseum city is a complete entertainment district along with new sports complex. There has never been a plan like this with previous ownership. The influx of money will not be solely dependent on the teams ability to draw fans. There will be crossover instead, people that go to the entertainment district that happen to end up at the games and vice versa. To reduce the idea of the project as just being dependent on sports fans to make it fly wouldn’t be an accurate portrayal of what it is truly about. the district will attract tourist as well as sports enthusiast, and bay area residents looking for a good time in general…..
damn copy and paste messed that all up
May 4th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
Anyways, have you noticed that other tagged players have signed the tender and went to work, leaving the long-term deal discussions to their agents??
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Less than half of all tagged players have signed their tenders at this point.
May 4th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
Not so fast, you have to take into account that the Coliseum city is a complete entertainment district along with new sports complex. There has never been a plan like this with previous ownership. The influx of money will not be solely dependent on the teams ability to draw fans. There will be crossover instead, people that go to the entertainment district that happen to end up at the games and vice versa. To reduce the idea of the project as just being dependent on sports fans to make it fly wouldn’t be an accurate portrayal of what it is truly about. the district will attract tourist as well as sports enthusiast, and bay area residents looking for a good time in general…..
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Well said mistic. I am obviously not an Oakland native, but you guys have my full support lol.
May 4th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
I hope Oakland does build some type of cool, entertainment complex.
But they never did it when things were thriving, so what makes anyone think they will do it with this economy, with the A’s playing decent ball, but being really being the children of the poor in baseball?
I think there is a much better chance the Raiders get a stadium and the A’s go elsewhere. Looks like a better investment from where I am sitting.
May 4th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
Guest123 Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
Raiders don’t retire numbers, so if there are 90 camp bodies, they barely have enough selection.
Question?
What about the teams that retire numbers like the Donkey’s? How do they have enough jersey numbers for camp?
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They either have some players wearing weird numbers for their positions, or the NFL may allow multiple players with the same number in preseason as long as they’re not on the field at the same time (the NCAA has a similar rule).
May 4th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
Anyways, off to go swing the sticks……
May 4th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
Thanks Duck!
May 4th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
900.bcz24 Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 11:47 am
Branch is officially the NFL’s first player accused of being a hold out in May.
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Geez. How good does this guy really think he is?
May 4th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
I think it’s really cool that the Raiders are contributing 10% to the local school district. Not that Al Davis wasn’t a philanthropist in his day. But the timing of the announcement is critical to gather support for Coliseum City. It’s similar to the ownership that the Packers fans have in Green Bay. If they support the franchise, it all comes full circle.
win/win
May 4th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
Less than half of all tagged players have signed their tenders at this point
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@bcz
he could be a little more professional, like Anthony Spencer & Brent Grimes is all i’m saying
especially with a new DC & new DB coaches as well as whole new defensive scheme & philosophy. Guessing it wouldn’t hurt him to work with new CB’s Bartell, Spencer, Lee & Underwood either!!
May 4th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
I came here hoping for a new exciting post…
C’mon Reggie do something so we have something to talk about.
May 4th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
Bcz,
I don’t like paying 3 STs players $8.55 when I can get a PB CB for that king of money. Asante Samuel signed a 3 year $18 million contract.
Restructure or get released. Maybe that’s why we gave the rookie punter a 3 year contract (just in case).
May 4th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
communication & camaraderie is uber important in the secondary imo.
that way everybody is on the same page and knows their assignment.
Hate it when a huge passing play happens or there is a missed/blown assignment, then we see finger pointing or looks of disgust at their own teammates
May 4th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
Hate it when a huge passing play happens or there is a missed/blown assignment, then we see finger pointing or looks of disgust at their own teammates
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finger pointing in any organization is the product of bad management. That all points directly to Chuck B. If accountability measures are in place, guys catch on real fast.
May 4th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
I can’t wait to play the Lions again on 08/25 (Preseason)
watch Tarver have Calvin Johnson doubled by McClain & Branch, then Megatron make a big play.
everybody gonna call for Jason’s head??
May 4th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
accountability wasn’t required under Al Davis.
unfortunately, Hue Jackson couldn’t change that in short order.
May 4th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
Guest,Leinart is now a Raider.Shouldn’t you be rooting for him since he is now on the team you root for instead of hating him?Why do fans hate and root against players that play for their team?
May 4th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
I can’t wait to play the Lions again on 08/25 (Preseason)
watch Tarver have Calvin Johnson doubled by McClain & Branch, then Megatron make a big play.
everybody gonna call for Jason’s head??
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More like Bartell in the short zone, and Huff deep.
May 4th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
http://tfdssports.com/2012-articles/may/play-action-2009-seattle-seahawks.html
In an effort to understand what the Raiders are likely to do on offense this year I took a look at Seattle Seahawks games from 2009. Seattle in 2009 was the last year that Raiders new OC Greg Knapp was an offensive coordinator. He served as QB coach in Houston in both 2010 and 2011 before returning to Oakland for this next season.
Knapp was previously designated offensive coordinator for the Raiders under Lane Kiffin but it was Kiffin’s offense and Kiffin also called the plays, so that may not be representative of Knapp’s style.
I looked at two games from 2009 – week 1 Seahawks vs Rams and week 4 Seahawks vs Colts.
There were a number of things that jumped out at me. First, Raiders fans who are big fans of Hue Jackson’s dynamic offense may be dissapointed. Knapp clearly runs his offense different. Depending on the quarterback, he seemed to run things slightly different but he was substantially more conservative in his play calling.
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May 4th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
Yo MCA – keep chasing that shining start up in Hip Hop Heaven, my bratha
One love, peace out Brooklyn style, big ups to Central Park
May 4th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
@Duck
Nate Burleson, Titus Young, Brandon Pettigrew &
Tony Scheffler don’t concern you??
these guys will be singled or uncovered in your scenario…
Lions are pass happy, have no running game. They will run 3 or 4 wide.
May 4th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
Raiders fans who are big fans of Hue Jackson’s dynamic offense may be dissapointed. Knapp clearly runs his offense different. Depending on the quarterback, he seemed to run things slightly different but he was substantially more conservative in his play calling.
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@ GG
Everybody knows Knapp’s offense will be run-run-pass!
we’re gonna run to set up the big passing plays. Palmer even said as much.
All the more reason to sign another quality running back imo
May 4th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
Guest,Leinart is now a Raider.Shouldn’t you be rooting for him since he is now on the team you root for instead of hating him?Why do fans hate and root against players that play for their team?
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Lefty, I have been on the “sign Leinart train” ever since it was rumored he could be coming here. That doesn’t mean I beleive he’s the long term answer. It only means I think he’s the best candidate to be Pryor’s coaching buddy on the second unit. I fully support Leinart, but hope he never gets the chance to take over for CP3. Hopefully Pryor is ready by the time CP3 goes down to injury.
May 4th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
just glanced at the Lions roster and saw ex-Raiders Dylan Gandy & Slade Norris on there, LOL
didn’t realize these guys were even still in the NFL!!
May 4th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
Guest123 Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
finger pointing in any organization is the product of bad management. That all points directly to Chuck B. If accountability measures are in place, guys catch on real fast.
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True. You don’t see the Pats or the Pack pointing fingers publicly. We did it all the time.
May 4th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
Does anybody know where Wiley, our former O-line coach, ended up? I remember thinking it sucked to let him go but if we’re really going to run the ZBS then it makes sense.
May 4th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
Hopefully Pryor is ready by the time CP3 goes down to injury
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@G123
revised:
“Hopefully Pryor is ready by the time CP3 decides to retire”
btw Lefty, G123 wanted Leinart since the beginning – I remember because I argued with him against it!! haha
now that he’s a Raider I’ll just say competition is always a good thing. Pryor beating out Bomar wouldn’t be much of an accomplishment. Pryor beating out a former 1st rounder with 2 years in Knapp’s offense who is Palmer’s BFF would leave me satisfied with his progression up to this point
May 4th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
@Duck
Nate Burleson, Titus Young, Brandon Pettigrew &
Tony Scheffler don’t concern you??
these guys will be singled or uncovered in your scenario…
Lions are pass happy, have no running game. They will run 3 or 4 wide.
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So if you have four wideouts, you have some of the LBs covering them close before releasing them to the deep DBs.
Part of the strength of zone coverage is its ability to deal with multiple WRs much better than man coverage.
Tarver and Allen have been around zones for years. I’m sure they’ll figure it out.
May 4th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
Does anybody know where Wiley, our former O-line coach, ended up?
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@tiger
unemployment line, along with Greg Biekert & Kevin Ross
May 4th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
I didn’t say he was a long term answer.I was just asking why do fans hate players on their team instead of rooting for those players?I hated Alzado until he became a Raider,then I loved the guy.Same with Romo.About the only guy I didn’t accept was Rice because while wearing the Silver and Black he stated he’d always be a whiner.But,I still hoped he’d make plays for us even though deep inside my attitude was F**k You.
May 4th, 2012 at 1:06 pm
So if you have four wideouts, you have some of the LBs covering them close before releasing them to the deep DBs
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@Duck
Guess you wont complain when you see Slowlando dusted on a crossing route singled on Burleson, eh?
2 other Lions WR’s blocking downfield, plus maybe a RB or TE. Nate breaks one tackle and thats 6 points
Linehan isn’t Tom Walsh, buddy
May 4th, 2012 at 1:06 pm
Branch is trippin he needs to just sign and play he is our staring ss and is already behind I hope missle Mike Mitchell takes his spot. He is bigger and hits harder they both are liable in coverage at times but maybe with new scheme and better coaching mm34 can be everything we wanted him to be.
May 4th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 1:06 pm
So if you have four wideouts, you have some of the LBs covering them close before releasing them to the deep DBs
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@Duck
Guess you wont complain when you see Slowlando dusted on a crossing route singled on Burleson, eh?
2 other Lions WR’s blocking downfield, plus maybe a RB or TE. Nate breaks one tackle and thats 6 points
Linehan isn’t Tom Walsh, buddy
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Again, Allen and Tarver have plenty of experience with these schemes. If the Lions do line up in a 4-receiver set, we’ll probably only have 1 LB in (and it’ll be someone who can cover).
We’ll have a heck of a lot better results than taking our 4th-best cover guy and putting him on a WR man-to-man. Relax. We’ll be fine.
May 4th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
Yo, Branch is straight up wizzle if he doesn’t sign that tender soon
Me and my boy MCA would lyrically destroy the suckah, check out this hot flow
Yo Branch, sign your tender, don’t be wack
What a girly-man, just grow a sack
You better get it done before I finish this song
Or I’ll smack you in the head with my Long Duck Dong*
*this is a reference to my huge weiner
BEEECH DIGGITY FEELIN’ THE RAP HEAT, BOOYAH
May 4th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
#919-I see they gave Leinart #7-that makes it easier to hate him.
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That is the statement I was referring too.
May 4th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
Branch is trippin he needs to just sign and play he is our staring ss and is already behind I hope missle Mike Mitchell takes his spot. He is bigger and hits harder they both are liable in coverage at times but maybe with new scheme and better coaching mm34 can be everything we wanted him to be
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@DR55
we are in agreement on this. Branch looks better than Mitchell on paper, because he has more starts. more starts = more tackles. a bunch of tackles from a SS don’t impress me. Might as well be Gibril Wilson out there. Give me some tackles behind the LOS, forced fumbles or INT’s.
He may just end up playing his 1-year on the tag without a long term deal. who knows? that would surprise me, but it wouldn’t be a stupid move on Reggie’s end. Certainly possible Branch could fall flat on his face in a new defense coached by somebody other than Chuck & Rod. the longer Tyvon holds out, the further ahead Mitch is going to get. I’d like to see that guy get an opportunity. He wasn’t swept out the way that Bruce Campbell was and Allen & Tarver are both former DB’s – so there must be something there
May 4th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
If the Lions do line up in a 4-receiver set, we’ll probably only have 1 LB in (and it’ll be someone who can cover).
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@Duck
who is our best cover linebacker?
I don’t see that as McClain or Curry’s strong suit.
maybe Burris or Wheeler will become that guy, you think?
May 4th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
49ers & Dolphins announced all their undrafted free agent signings …
when are the Raiders going to do that??
May 4th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
If the Lions do line up in a 4-receiver set, we’ll probably only have 1 LB in (and it’ll be someone who can cover).
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@Duck
who is our best cover linebacker?
I don’t see that as McClain or Curry’s strong suit.
maybe Burris or Wheeler will become that guy, you think?
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McClain’s cover skills are mediocre at best, and Curry’s a hot mess in coverage.
I’m thinking Wheeler or Burris on obvious passing downs.
May 4th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
did you guys see Jets HC Rex Ryan compare rookie Demario Davis to Ray Lewis ??
wow – high praise. I know a bunch of semi pro’s fell in love with this kid, too.
May 4th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
Yo, Branch is straight up wizzle if he doesn’t sign that tender soon
Me and my boy MCA would lyrically destroy the suckah, check out this hot flow
Yo Branch, sign your tender, don’t be wack
What a girly-man, just grow a sack
You better get it done before I finish this song
Or I’ll smack you in the head with my Long Duck Dong*
*this is a reference to my huge weiner
BEEECH DIGGITY FEELIN’ THE RAP HEAT, BOOYAH
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You should do an MCA tribute show.
2K4S could do Fight for Your Right and Sure Shot.
Rasta Ganja could do Sabotage, Gratitude and Brass Monkey.
I’ll run the sound board for you.
May 4th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
Texas A&M receiver Jeff Fuller (undrafted) inked by the Dolphins.
didn’t this guy come in for a pre-draft visit and a few semi pro’s thought he was worth looking into as a late rounder or UDFA??
May 4th, 2012 at 1:31 pm
leaving early today..
have a great weekend, gents!
hoping to talk about Benson and/or Branch signing when I return on Monday
May 4th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
That’s a very interesting idea, MC Duck
I’ll have the Certified Platinum Posse hit up the classy seafood restaurant in San Diego, they’d be a great venue.
The salad bar has been fixed since our bass player broke it stage diving and the daily specials will satisfy our fan’s picky palates
It could also be the perfect spot for some of my hot new stand up comedy, I’ve decided on the stage name Insane in the Beeech Brain
I could open with this:
Hey folks, glad you made it out to the MCA tribute show. I just flew in from Milwaukee and boy is my weiner tired. Why’s it so tired? Because I got 16 bjs on the plane! (rim shot)
You know that’s a hot comedy gem
May 4th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
“Fishing is like sex
The less you get
The more you lie”.
May 4th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
Well Nation…have a good Cinco de mayo weekend!
Check in with you all laters!
Peace Out!
May 4th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
lefty12 Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
“Fishing is like sex
The less you get
The more you lie”.
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That sums it up then! LOL!
May 4th, 2012 at 1:48 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
McClain’s cover skills are mediocre at best, and Curry’s a hot mess in coverage.
I’m thinking Wheeler or Burris on obvious passing downs.
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McClown needs to grow the F up before he begins to be a professional anything let alone a linebacker for the Raiders.
May 4th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
Can I get a wat, wat Mo Fo’s?
May 4th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
McClain is actually decent in coverage.His haters just throw crap out there and unfortunately some of it sticks.But I have to agree he needs to grow up and get his sh!t together.Hopefully he does before he ends up like Taylor.
May 4th, 2012 at 1:55 pm
Benson arrested in 08, 10, & 11. If anyone is paying attention both Reggie and Coach Allen said they wanted quality people..
Benson beat up a family member in 2011….
Safe to say they are not considering him….if they are…are completely going against what they said…
Just Sayin’
May 4th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
Our best linebacker is Aaron Curry.
He is still improving but he is the best on our team IMO.
His strengths are his preparation, tackling, reliability, and toughness.
He weaknesses are his lateral hips in pass coverage, GAP accountability (at times), and lack of experience.
May 4th, 2012 at 2:01 pm
Lefty12 McClain certainly has skills, no question, and that’s why I haven’t picked on him much regard his on field work. Off the field is another story.
Some of the crap he pulled has been a huge indicator of the type of dude Al got outside of his physical tools. Hope he stays. Hope he grows up. We shall see.
May 4th, 2012 at 2:03 pm
Another thing about Curry is he lacks true football instincts such as tackling dudes 15 fricken yards out of bounds!
May 4th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
I agree Dave…although that isn’t instinct…that is discipline..but I agree 100%
May 4th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
BTW Pryor is playing on the BigTenNetwork vs Oregon right now. Just in case people want to see the kid in an entire game.
May 4th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
Love sporting My Raiders gear in Tampa.Raiders are the real pirates.They are butt pirates!!!LOL
May 4th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
Dave,we can only hope he straightens out.He is pretty talented and it would be a shame if he wasted it.Maybe the discipline we should get with the new staff will have a positive affect on him.
May 4th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
Hot Shot, the best way to phrase your joke is -
Hey folks, what a great crowd, thanks for coming out tonight. Hey – any of you hear that the entire Bucs team was caught having homosexual intercourse with one another? That’s because they’re butt pirates. Get it?
Remember, it’s all in the delivery, use heavy emphasis on “Get it?!?!”
- Insane in the Beeech Brain
May 4th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
Curry hits the hardest for sure out of all our backers. Burris prob not to far behind in that department
May 4th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
Come on Priest let it go.No need to come here everyday and blow his horn.He’ll get his chance to show if he deserves a job.What he did in college doesn’t matter,just as it doesn’t matter what any other prospect did in his past.It will be what he does in the future that decides his fate.
May 4th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
Raidernationdave Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
lefty12 Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
“Fishing is like sex
The less you get
The more you lie”.
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That sums it up then! LOL!
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True, or maybe, lame ass wannabe crying for attention is like a toilet. Just sitting there crying for attention until someone shi** in it’s face.
May 4th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
Hot Shot, the best way to phrase your joke is -
Hey folks, what a great crowd, thanks for coming out tonight. Hey – any of you hear that the entire Bucs team was caught having homosexual intercourse with one another? That’s because they’re butt pirates. Get it?
Remember, it’s all in the delivery, use heavy emphasis on “Get it?!?!”
- Insane in the Beeech Brain
LOL!!!!!!!
May 4th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
I’m not getting into the Pryor argument til after pre season.
He will get some time to prove people right or wrong at that time.
Should be interesting.
The kid has talent….rarely is that enough in this league…but we will see….
May 4th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
I think Curry can be an All Pro Linebacker…but they might want to consider him playing Mike, at least some of the time….
If and when we do adjust to a 3/4 for certain snaps….both will be playing inside anyways….
Lets look at it…
Pro’s….
-Curry is a better A and B Gap defender than McClain….
-Curry is a better Tackler than McClain
-McClain is the better blitzer and would have more success from the outside.
-McClain is a better pass defender, does than mean he should play the middle since there is more space to cover or lock up one side in the flat…???
Con’s
-(People might say)McClain would not be in the Middle and could not make the defensive checks and adjustments….
May 4th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
But what do I know?
May 4th, 2012 at 2:28 pm
That kid Burris.The thing I liked about him watching his film tape is his vision and smarts.He always around the ball and he stuffs people behind the line.He reads offenses good.He will be a great LB.
May 4th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
3/4 of the people on here think they know more than the coaching staff and GM.
May 4th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
Curry is not cerebral enough to play mike
May 4th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
lefty12 Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
3/4 of the people on here think they know more than the coaching staff and GM.
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I will give the semi’s credit. They do bring a lot of good intel however, they are no match for the professionals.
May 4th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
Thec Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
Curry is not cerebral enough to play mike
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Maybe if they change the defensive terminology to scripture………..
May 4th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
@990
You may be correct. But I’ll bet you Curry would disagree!
May 4th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
KoolKell Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
Thec Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
Curry is not cerebral enough to play mike
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Maybe if they change the defensive terminology to scripture………..
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hahahaha…Good one Bruh…
Thou shalt be a leader of men.
Thou shalt get the D aliged properly.
Thou shalt not commit dumb penalties.
May 4th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
What Curry believes doesn’t matter.What the coaches believe do.
May 4th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
One could argue McClain is not cerebral enough to stay out of trouble…
May 4th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
lefty12 Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
What Curry believes doesn’t matter.What the coaches believe do.
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Amen
May 4th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
Backstageatapuppetshow Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
One could argue McClain is not cerebral enough to stay out of trouble…
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At this point that might be a correct statement.
May 4th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
Thec Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
Curry is not cerebral enough to play mike
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I don’t know if that is true. AC played very well for us and very instinctual. That’s all you need from the mike. Curry probably isn’t going to win a Rhodes scholarship tho you are right there.
May 4th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
No disagreement with regards to McClain….
May 4th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
AC played very well for us and very instinctual. That’s all you need from the mike.
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Truth however, based on some of his own comments as to why he left the sea he likes it simple, attack, and hit.
May 4th, 2012 at 2:45 pm
Curry is an outside LBer.That is where he belongs.Instead of trying to put a round peg into a square hole go get a square peg.
May 4th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
Positions are just labels anyways…if we are multiple…it won’t matter.
I just like that Coach Allen said he wants to be multiple…that way players can change responsibilities every so often…if we have McClain and Curry on the field….and the Mike in the scheme is the blitzer on a play and the Sam is in coverage…it would make sense to send Curry and let McClain cover….
A defense with options is better than one with too many rules….the Ravens Defense gets it…they change it up…
We will be similar to that in time….but even better!
May 4th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
KrappyRat, the best way to tell that joke is:
Ladies and Gents, thanks so much for coming out tonight. Looking forward to making you all laugh and laugh!
Speaking of laughing, have you heard how religious Raider linebacker Aaron Curry is? He’d probably play harder if you changed the defensive terminology to scripture! GET IT?
And then shoot one of those guns that rolls out a little flag that says BANG! for extra effect
- Insane in the Beeech Brain
May 4th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
There has to be SOMETHING going on at Alameda today right???
If Jason Carver has bathroom problems I wanna know about it.
If Reggie’s afro is leaning three inches to the left I WANNA KNOW ABOUt IT.
If Amy Trask is changing into a saucy nightgown I…..(never mind).
May 4th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
I’d like to know how we’re supposed to tell Reggie and Raleigh apart.
May 4th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
Beeech,
You need your own HBO special.
Have you thought about trying the old hand buzzer gag?
May 4th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
The Gong show would be more appropriate.
May 4th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
Beeech,
You need your own HBO special.
Have you thought about trying the old hand buzzer gag?
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Thought about it? I tried it on my nads today in the shower and almost passed out giggling
May 4th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
- Insane in the Beeech Brain
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That’s another song right there.
If Insane Clown Posse sends us a ‘cease and desist’ we’ll forward their request to an obscure PO box address in Argentina and leave a number where they can reach us…the fat chick hotline of course…at 30.00 a minute (price went up).
May 4th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
One could argue McClain is not cerebral enough to stay out of trouble.
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After the stunt he pulled, you can certainly make that argument. Dumb move all the way around.
May 4th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
1008.lefty12 Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
The Gong show would be more appropriate.
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Awww. c’mon man…
May 4th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
3/4 of the people on here think they know more than the coaching staff and GM.
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Is that all? Heck, some of the semis went as far as creating their own pseudo organization. Lots of geniuses in here.
May 4th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
All this talk of 3/4 and 4/3 is really an outdated argument as well…
Week to week if we aren’t PREPARING a customized Defensive scheme and plan to account for each specific team based on their strengths, weaknesses, and injuries then we are preparing to lose.
If a team has trouble with an ODD, then they should see an ODD. If they have trouble with an EVEN, they should see an EVEN.
We MUST be able to run each effectively.
All these years we hear talk of scripting the first 20+ plays on Offense…but we need to be scripting a defensive plan.
The defensive game plan needs to have 3 parts.
A plan that accounts for tendencies inside of any and all personnel groups and areas of the field and can earn us an advantage in the first half.
A separate plan following halftime to account for the adjustments of the opposing coordinator will implement when the plan in the first half is effective.
3rd plan is to do the usual….just play it straight up…read your keys…cover your man…play the called defense and assignment…
May 4th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
Yo DJ and the rest of 2 Kewl 4 Skool Nation -
I was working all morning – while I soaked my nads in a cool glass of ginger ale – on the chorus to D.O.A.L. (Duece of a Lifteime) and came up with a real winner
This will need extreme bass playing in the background and a flute to echo/enhance the melody line
Trust me, this jam will sound epic when the whole crowd at the Raider’s home opener is singing along at half time, holding hands -
Just dropped the Duece of a Lifetime
I’m dreaming the impossible dream
Just dropped the Duece of a Lifetime
This was exactly … what I need
Then a nearby space shuttle blasts off and drops Starbursts all over the field as the Raiders bust out of the tunnel
May 4th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
Later boys!
May 4th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
I’m cool with Beeech. He adds some much needed humor to this blog.
May 4th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
…in reference to post 1008
May 4th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
Big Banana, the best way to present that joke is:
Hey folks, what a great crowd, glad you all made it out tonight. Man, have you heard about that cool dude The Beeech Dawg? Man, he’s so funny and talented, all the bloggers simply can’t get enough. He’s obviously destined for comedic super stardom.
And then immediately sit on a whoopie cushion so they forget you aren’t really telling a joke after all
May 4th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
The nature and functionality of Curry cerebelum has zero to do with his ability to play mike. MLB has to be instinctive at this level. The guy could be a rocket scientist have all the athleticism in the world but yet not have the instincts to play there as well as others. Football instinct is not just read and react it’s anticipate what you know will happen based on film study. Some are great at it some good some bad. Curry is very stiff hipped very muscular he cannot open his hips turn and run.
As for TP Lefty12 there are those who haven’t seen a lot of him because they don’t watch College Football I was simply making them aware of the opportunity.
Personally I don’t care what people say about the kid because they don’t determine what will happen. I merely come in here for the beenefit of those who don’t know one way or the other and would like another opinion.
I only get upset when those who get paid to know say things that are way off the deep end where he’s concerned. Otherwise I’m very secure in who this kid is and what he can do.
May 4th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
Are we approaching the record on comments for one posting yet?
May 4th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
I find it hard to blame the players for the abysmal Raiders Defense, because it’s been the same way for years, despite the comings and goings of many different players.
Can’t wait to see what it looks like this year, under the New Regime. “Multiple”
May 4th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
To reach the 8-8 level of last year, with a “harder” schedule, the Raiders need to be better than they were. Not sure yet if players that left have been replaced by better or even the same level of players.
Also will be very glad when Al’s last personal pick gets on the field and shows he has or he doesn’t. We won’t know until then.
May 4th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
I find myself with a smile when ever I read about the Raiders using multiple defenses. Last year, they couldn’t master even one. Of course, with a couple less penalties, the Raiders might have made it to the playoffs last year. Which would have meant that maybe Hue would still be here.
Still would have wanted to go to the playoffs.
May 4th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
The Raiders, “dabbled” in multiple defenses in the past, but were never any good at them because, Al wasn’t into it.
-God Bless. ok?
May 4th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
priesttj Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
BTW Pryor is playing on the BigTenNetwork vs Oregon right now. Just in case people want to see the kid in an entire game.
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Priesttj,
welcome back bra. i have changed my stance on pryor. i did not think he would fit into the hue jackson up tempo offense that JC led so well. However I do think he is a very good fit for knapps zone based offense. in fact I think he is a far better fit than palmer and lienert, and only needs reps and game experience. i am truly excited to see what he brings to the table this offense, and i hope he can be our qb of the future. we have no future with palmer and lienert
May 4th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
Maybe Tiger should take the season off. Not only did he play awful golf, someone stole his golf ball on the course.
May 4th, 2012 at 3:29 pm
Coco Crisp is on the disabled list. How not to get over sinus infection (which is in an area that is difficult to treat):
Fly around the country and stop it up further.
Play in ice cold weather which stops things up more. Frankly, if baseball players have to wear diving and ski masks to play, I think the game should be called.
Hope they send Coco back to Oakland on a train.
May 4th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
priesttj Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
BTW Pryor is playing on the BigTenNetwork vs Oregon right now. Just in case people want to see the kid in an entire game.
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Priesttj,
welcome back bra. i have changed my stance on pryor. i did not think he would fit into the hue jackson up tempo offense that JC led so well. However I do think he is a very good fit for knapps zone based offense. in fact I think he is a far better fit than palmer and lienert, and only needs reps and game experience. i am truly excited to see what he brings to the table this offense, and i hope he can be our qb of the future. we have no future with palmer and lienert
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I’d like nothing more than for TP to be the Raiders QB for 10 yrs.
It’s on Him to earn it.
May 4th, 2012 at 3:35 pm
qodrn1 Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 3:29 pm
Coco Crisp is on the disabled list. How not to get over sinus infection (which is in an area that is difficult to treat):
Fly around the country and stop it up further.
Play in ice cold weather which stops things up more. Frankly, if baseball players have to wear diving and ski masks to play, I think the game should be called.
Hope they send Coco back to Oakland on a train
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Who cares about coco puffs anyway. im glad that micheal Taylor will get a look, and i hope he sticks and gets an extended look this time.
May 4th, 2012 at 3:35 pm
Aaron Curry.
Simple things for simple minds.
May 4th, 2012 at 3:37 pm
Paul Guttierez has got to be the thinnest skin writer in the Bay Area. Dude just blocked me on this FB post because I told him his QA posting of our draft picks are like a week late. What a loser. Steve and Jerry, thank you for having this blog.
May 4th, 2012 at 3:40 pm
Raidernationdave Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 3:35 pm
Aaron Curry.
Simple things for simple minds.
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lol
I respect Curry for His devotion to Life… which seems to encompass the Bible and the Raiders.
Find a way to best utilize his skill set and we will have a dedicated productive player for several years.
May 4th, 2012 at 3:40 pm
Hope TP dose good and I know he has the skills.Lets hope the leadership comes with that.Palmer should help him alot in that department showing him how to lead the team and run the offense calling his own plays when he sees a match up he likes.
May 4th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
Aig-Raiders Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 3:37 pm
Paul Guttierez has got to be the thinnest skin writer in the Bay Area. Dude just blocked me on this FB post because I told him his QA posting of our draft picks are like a week late. What a loser. Steve and Jerry, thank you for having this blog.
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He might have been feeling “crampy”
May 4th, 2012 at 3:45 pm
Mistic1 I appreciate your insightful thought on tghe kid. I too think once he gets the WCO down he will benefit. Everyone who’s a decent QB does if they have the athleticism to do so. It makes QB’s look good who have average arms because it ask you to take what the D gives you. It’s a high completion % high TD ratio offense which bolsters QBR’s. I just hope he will allow the kid to be himself a bit and stretch the field sometimes. Tressell to hogtied the kid wouldn’t let him play yet he still performed the game I told people about earlier. The kid makes one of the most difficult throws late in the 4th to beat a great Ore. team knowing if it got picked Tressell would have a heartattack. And it would cost them the game.
May 4th, 2012 at 3:48 pm
However Mistic1 I have to say give CP3 some room to prove you wrong again. The only question with him is he has be more patient with the football. This offense doesn’t fit him well he struggled in it at USC under Hackett. But maybe now he’s more ready to allow the offense to put points up instead of forcing things so much. Because he going to throw a ton of checkdowns something he hates.
May 4th, 2012 at 3:51 pm
@ Preist 1036
Winners make the plays when everything is on the line.
By definition.
Tressell and the heart attack is overly dramatic. lol
May 4th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
priesttj Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 3:48 pm
However Mistic1 I have to say give CP3 some room to prove you wrong again. The only question with him is he has be more patient with the football. This offense doesn’t fit him well he struggled in it at USC under Hackett. But maybe now he’s more ready to allow the offense to put points up instead of forcing things so much. Because he going to throw a ton of checkdowns something he hates.
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Lets hope so folks, at the very least he cant have another god awful year like last year. I will not blast him any further until he has a chance to show what he can do this year.
I am reluctantly giving the benefit of the doubt
May 4th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
Priesttj Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 3:48 pm
However Mistic1 I have to say give CP3 some room to prove you wrong again. The only question with him is he has be more patient with the football. This offense doesn’t fit him well he struggled in it at USC under Hackett. But maybe now he’s more ready to allow the offense to put points up instead of forcing things so much. Because he going to throw a ton of checkdowns something he hates.
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Palmer wants to win.
He’ll be fine.
A good running game allows for all kinds of opportunity to stretch the field.
May 4th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
TP is young.The game will slow down for him when he gets some playing time and will make better choices with the football.QBs play better when they get a little older cause they know the game.Guys like Brees Gannon Steve young ETC.
May 4th, 2012 at 4:00 pm
Hot Shot Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
TP is young.The game will slow down for him when he gets some playing time and will make better choices with the football.QBs play better when they get a little older cause they know the game.Guys like Brees Gannon Steve young ETC.
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I hope TP gets heavy minutes come Pre Season.
Huge opportunity to get His feet wet.
May 4th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
@ shutdown
#827,
From your link:
As a life-long A’s fan, I’ve heard this song before. The team has twice been sold to owners who wanted to keep the team in Oakland, the first as a matter of civic pride (the Levi Strauss family, the best owners any team in America could hope to have), the second, investors who thought a young winning team would bring both fans and the city around.
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Not so fast, you have to take into account that the Coliseum city is a complete entertainment district along with new sports complex. There has never been a plan like this with previous ownership. The influx of money will not be solely dependent on the teams ability to draw fans.
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Oakland native and still in the Bay Area. My biggest concern about this whole ambitious plan, and we can all agree for Oakland, this is EXTREMELY ambitious, is the fact that earlier reports said that financing was predicated upon foreign investments. I posted an open blog letter to Jean Quan stating how I used to think how important it was for Oakland to maintain the local pro-sports team to remain and now the priority is to feel safe to be in Oakland. No point in keeping sports teams if the fans aren’t safe. I also stated that if foreign investments are imperative for such a project then the Oakland INTERNATIONAL Airport needs to have international flights aside to/from Mexico.
Don’t be surprised that even if they’re able to pull off such a project, because of the foreign investments, those building components will be foreign made. Has anyone seen the Coliseum City plans? I noticed and I could be looking too much into this, the “football-only” stadium is “FOOTBALL” alright…a SOCCER field. Though the NFL is being marketed worldwide now, it’s not to the point that foreign investors would catch a game. Raiders maybe sharing a stadium with a MLS team.
May 4th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
If it requires foreign investment to keep the A’s in Oakland, then Oakland isn’t the place for the A’s.
I did read today however that the CEO of Clorox and others are working the problem.
Where have they been all this time?
May 4th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
Oh, and I forgot, if they decide to build an arena, I made a suggestion to Quan to build one and negotiate with the Sacto Kings, and not the Dubs. They been in Oakland for 40 years and still refuse to acknowledge that. Impractical to build them anything while they eye SF. Kept “Golden State” this whole time, openly look for locations in SF, and wear “throwback” unis with San Francisco reference while playing in Oakland.
Option 2 would be knowing that Mark Davis was eying Dublin, rebuild a football only stadium in Oakland, let the Warriors go, and build the A’s stadium at the Dublin area. Weather’s nicer there anyways.
May 4th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
RaiderLen Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
If it requires foreign investment to keep the A’s in Oakland, then Oakland isn’t the place for the A’s.
I did read today however that the CEO of Clorox and others are working the problem.
Where have they been all this time?
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Assessing property damage and dealing with the Occupy B.S.
May 4th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
Clorox isnt a foreign investor
May 4th, 2012 at 4:10 pm
Freezetag168 Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
RaiderLen Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
If it requires foreign investment to keep the A’s in Oakland, then Oakland isn’t the place for the A’s.
I did read today however that the CEO of Clorox and others are working the problem.
Where have they been all this time?
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Assessing property damage and dealing with the Occupy B.S.
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LOL
May 4th, 2012 at 4:11 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
Clorox isnt a foreign investor
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Correct.
They are based in Oakland.
They now come forward, where have they been?
May 4th, 2012 at 4:13 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
Clorox isnt a foreign investor
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I know. They mentored me ages ago while I was a snot-nose student-punk. I’ll look for the article on the foreign investment part. It was back in Oct/Nov 2011
May 4th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
Post 1042.I agree.I wanted to see him in some games last year but only came in 1 time.I thought we should of used him in some wild cat plays but Huh sucks!!!!!
May 4th, 2012 at 4:16 pm
http://www.immigrateme.com/city-of-oakland-looking-into-eb-5-program-to-finance-new-ballpark-for-oakland-as/
May 4th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
freezetag168 Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 4:16 pm
http://www.immigrateme.com/city-of-oakland-looking-into-eb-5-program-to-finance-new-ballpark-for-oakland-as/
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I remember this as well, but the news on the clorox group was just published in todays oakland tribune. The clorox group is the latest buzz
May 4th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
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I remember this as well, but the news on the clorox group was just published in todays oakland tribune. The clorox group is the latest buzz
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Yeah I understand about the recent rumblings from Clorox. They would not step forward unless they received some sort of verification and/or assurance. We’re talking about a $1-3 billion investment INTO OAKLAND here. Also keep in mind other things that happened recently: AIG taking over Coliseum operations and losing bidders on the Dodgers inquiring about purchasing other MLB franchises. Add to that the recent publicity of the Raiders reaching out to Oakland more so than any other time since they returned from L.A.
Where there’s smoke, there’s SOMETHING burning.
May 4th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
Too bad there’s not a good location closer to downtown oakland where there are already restaurants and bars, etc.
If they rebuild the col then where do the raiders play in the meantime? Stanford?
May 4th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
Hot Shot Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
Post 1042.I agree.I wanted to see him in some games last year but only came in 1 time.I thought we should of used him in some wild cat plays but Huh sucks!!!!!
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The wild cat stuff would have been cool, but I’m more interested in seeing TP PLAY QB without “gimmicks”
Lets see what the young buck can do with all of that athleticism and good coaching.
If he can break through we are golden.
May 4th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
No Mas Diamante Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
Too bad there’s not a good location closer to downtown oakland where there are already restaurants and bars, etc.
If they rebuild the col then where do the raiders play in the meantime? Stanford?
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Either that, or Cal’s stadium, or we share Candlesuck.
May 4th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
No Mas Diamante Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
Too bad there’s not a good location closer to downtown oakland where there are already restaurants and bars, etc.
If they rebuild the col then where do the raiders play in the meantime? Stanford?
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Either that, or Cal’s stadium, or we share Candlesuck.
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If they Build a new Raider Stadium on the existing site there is enough room to buil the new one and still play in the old one.
if the do the “Oakland Live” thing with an arena for the Warriors and possibly a Ball Park for the A’s I’m not sure how the land and space requirements will work out.
I know that if they do the “Live” deal additional lands surrounding then existing complex will be acquired.
May 4th, 2012 at 4:38 pm
No Mas Diamante Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
Too bad there’s not a good location closer to downtown oakland where there are already restaurants and bars, etc.
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You can thank your current Cali gov’r for that one. He put a priority on his ambitious 10K Downtown Oakland move-in campaign at the expense of the rest of the city as well as the pro-sports team.
As for where the Raiders would play during construction, there are choices: Candlestick, share Santa Clara for a season or two, Cal’s newly built Memorial Stadium, Stanford, and even AT&T. Unlikely the local Pac-12 locations as they’re too close to upscale neighborhoods who’d protest the games away. Candlestick or AT&T most likely.
May 4th, 2012 at 4:40 pm
@ 1058….Fat finger typing…lol
May 4th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
The reason I know this is from a combo of TV and NFL website, which showed aerial view on “play of the day”. By seeing jersey numbers on TV before snap, then watching aerial view on nfl I know who was who. Wimbley was trying to cover that little slotback and Romac actually had good position the whole time on TE running slant in the back of the end zone far deeper behind where slotback ran, but Kam and Romac were off screen on TV as play unfolded and announcers had them mixed up
This is no excuse for Romac’s quitting after whiffed tackles in pursuit, repeatedly being out of position not maintaining gap discipline and stupid stuff off the field, but Romac did not blow that particular play. There are plenty of others to blame Romac for.
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AlzadoX,
That’s NOT the way I remember the play.
Doing this from memory only, but I was pretty certain that Slow moved up and to his right towards CJ and the initial motion, vacating the middle. I didn’t think Slow was anywhere near the back of the end zone.
Since JHILL praised your breakdown of the play, I’ll defer to you guys.
I think Slow stinks but I don’t like unneccessary criticism of him. People like to critique his coverage, but I think that’s one area he’s pretty adept at. Not that he has good footspeed, but he uses his length to maximum advantage and seems to have a knack for being around the ball on some shorter routes.
He probably should have picked Fitzpatrick a few plays before the last Buff TD.
I know you’ll relate when I say Jerry Robinson would have ended the game right there.
May 4th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
“Win, lose or tie…Raidernation ’til you die.”
Beyotches!
I’ll be stoned in a few hours! Getting warmed up!
May 4th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
LOL!
i’ve been ripped off some OG Kush since NOON …
RAAAAAAIIIDDDEERRRRSSSSS
May 4th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
we’ll see what AIG has planned with O.co … hopefully the Coliseum City idea comes to life … 3 places built at the same time. it would be incredible.
May 4th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
1057.RaiderDuck Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
No Mas Diamante Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
Too bad there’s not a good location closer to downtown oakland where there are already restaurants and bars, etc.
If they rebuild the col then where do the raiders play in the meantime? Stanford?
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Either that, or Cal’s stadium, or we share Candlesuck.
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Probably share Cal’s new Memorial Stadium, while the new stadium is being built.
May 4th, 2012 at 5:42 pm
1064.xraided Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
we’ll see what AIG has planned with O.co … hopefully the Coliseum City idea comes to life … 3 places built at the same time. it would be incredible.
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The new potential A’s investors headed by the CEO of Clorox, said today that the Coliseum City plan is least attractive to the “investment group or new potential ownership group”.
He would rather have Howard St or Victory Court.
I say, him and the other investors shouldn’t be picky. If they succeed and if Coliseum City is built with all three new venues, him and the others should accept it.
May 4th, 2012 at 5:58 pm
Dkinight I see you post on newbllpark the other day…..good stuff bruh….goooood stuff
May 4th, 2012 at 6:01 pm
Anyhow….today is Oakland’s birthday….I hear its already packed and lively downtown and you know your main mayne B@uce is in like a dirty shirt! Over at Oaklandish off broadway between 14th and 15th they will be giving free beer and wine with a DJ and all….I’ll be there….come on thru if ya nearby…holla at th B@uce or hell even Jean Quan…she was there last month
May 4th, 2012 at 6:12 pm
DKNIGHT007 POST-1066,IT’S THERE $$$ AND A LOT OF IT,WHY SHOULDNT THEY BE PICKY? GOOD EVENING BY THE WAY..
May 4th, 2012 at 6:29 pm
For the love of God, Jerry or Steve! GIVE US A NEW POST!!
This is madness
May 4th, 2012 at 6:35 pm
I wonder if Pryor ever thinks “I am Al’s last draft pick, I need to prove that the ‘old man was right”
RIP AD, I got my fingers crossed on this one.
May 4th, 2012 at 6:41 pm
xraided Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
LOL!
i’ve been ripped off some OG Kush since NOON …
RAAAAAAIIIDDDEERRRRSSSSS
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Don’t get high at work so I gotta wait!!
May 4th, 2012 at 6:45 pm
What’s up Jerry and Cork? It’s Friday and you guys still haven’t busted out with a missive or two ’bout the Silver & Black?
You guys could’a done so much!
“RMac dropped a huge fricken deuce this morning”
“TKelly in mist of training for new job as NT. At Carl’s Jr. as we speak”
“DVD putting on more weight. He’s up to 186″
Etc., etc.
May 4th, 2012 at 6:50 pm
Allen needs to roll tape on Kelly getting double teamed last year.
Its obvious he hasn’t if hes thinking TK can play NT in a 3-4.
3-4 yds is how far Kelly gets blown off the ball when DT’ed.
May 4th, 2012 at 6:52 pm
DVD puttin on weight is good but still have to see if he attacks ball carriers.
No exageration to say he was a worse tackler than DeAngelo Hall or Deion.
Embarrassing and worse, costly.
May 4th, 2012 at 7:01 pm
Have no illusions, this draft would’ve been she-reh-ded had it been Davis pulling the trigger.
So much for Reggie nailing “starters” with his draft picks.
Berg? Maybe and who knows? Maybe they can use their specific strengths within the system and it’ll work ala Green Bay, NE ect but man, thats alot of projects…2 of em’ are basketball players.
Davis must be smirking from the beyond
May 4th, 2012 at 7:06 pm
Nnamdi21 Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 7:01 pm
Have no illusions, this draft would’ve been she-reh-ded had it been Davis pulling the trigger.
So much for Reggie nailing “starters” with his draft picks.
Berg? Maybe and who knows? Maybe they can use their specific strengths within the system and it’ll work ala Green Bay, NE ect but man, thats alot of projects…2 of em’ are basketball players.
Davis must be smirking from the beyond.
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Al would probably have drafted Vontaze Burfict with our first pick, then gone with pure speed/size demons who never even started. Oh, and he would have traded our 2013 first-rounder and third-rounders for the right to take Dontari Poe.
May 4th, 2012 at 7:12 pm
1076. Agree. Think writers are taking a wait and see cuz we really don’t know yet but on paper, its a massive down grade and a very poor draft traditionally.
If it is indeed some form of analytics mixed with Reggie’s gut it could be a very good thing. Green Bay was built this way but whether Ted Tolner deserves the lions share of credit or if Reggie was the architect of a perrenial Packer play off team reamins to be seen.
May 4th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
1077. Don’t know about that but Davis did have a blind spot for character cases in later years. In the old days these guys may have been “bad” but they took pride in their work.
Just glad Burfict was man enough or foolish enuff to show his hand before signing a big contract and f’ing over a team. Some guys work hard for a good combine score and then coast. Play hard in their contract year and then coast.
Reggie swears he’ll fix that and with Davis gone just might happen…
May 4th, 2012 at 7:20 pm
One thing I immediately noticed: other than Crawford (who Reggie must have had a hunch about), everybody we drafted dominated at their respective levels: lots and lots of first team all-conference selections.
May 4th, 2012 at 7:47 pm
I like the potential of some these undrafted free agents who the Raiders signed, specifically Hamilton, Black, Henry, Burnett and Nix.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/oakland-raiders-undrafted-free-agent-signings-diamonds-rough-184600762–nfl.html
May 4th, 2012 at 8:03 pm
1080. Thats true but the level of competition they faced…
Personally, I love the picks. I love the gambles. They’re more Davis than Davis would’ve dared.
If Reggie pulls out a play off team with no ones and scrubs it’ll be pretty cool and mean Oakland can start to plug in system fits and not have to search high and low for big ticket specialty players.
May 4th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
#1043 & 1045
“Raiders maybe sharing a stadium with a MLS team.”
That won’t do.
As for the Warriors versus the Kings—agreed. What nerve that the W’s wear those ugly The City (soooo pretentious)jerseys while in Oakland.
May 4th, 2012 at 8:27 pm
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 6:12 pm
DKNIGHT007 POST-1066,IT’S THERE $$$ AND A LOT OF IT,WHY SHOULDNT THEY BE PICKY? GOOD EVENING BY THE WAY..
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Agreed. It is their money and they can be picky, but it will just be more time and money spent and wasted if they are not on the same page with Alameda County/Oakland on a site for the A’s.
Personally, I would rather see Coliseum City just be set for the Warriors and Raiders and A’s get a new ballpark in SJ or near Jack London Square.
May 4th, 2012 at 8:29 pm
The problem with the marina/harbor sites for an A’s ballpark, is BART access would be more problematic, when it comes to infrastructure costs.
May 4th, 2012 at 8:35 pm
Berg? Maybe and who knows? Maybe they can use their specific strengths within the system and it’ll work ala Green Bay, NE ect but man, thats alot of projects…2 of em’ are basketball players.
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What projects are you thinking of? 5th and 6th rounds? Isnt that where you take projects anyways? We’re not talking taking projects in the first 4 rounds. BTW, the majority of the players chosen are all 4 year players and most of them had production in college vs someone like Dontari Poe with KC.
May 4th, 2012 at 8:37 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 7:20 pm
One thing I immediately noticed: other than Crawford (who Reggie must have had a hunch about), everybody we drafted dominated at their respective levels: lots and lots of first team all-conference selections.
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100% correct. On top of that, I believe all were seniors and no head cases either.
May 4th, 2012 at 8:43 pm
Keep in mind that although GB was built with a lot of “no names” (with Reggie’s assistance), they still have a few huuuuge money guys like Rodgers and Mathews they have to pay.
Reggie will have to fork it out for at least a few in Oakland.
May 4th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
Reggie will have to fork it out for at least a few in Oakland.
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I think he will. It just that he dont think he believes in paying a lot to snappers or punters. Right now, he has no cap but I am 99% sure he will deal with Condo, Lechler and Seabass’ cap hits as soon as he can.
May 4th, 2012 at 9:08 pm
Our mega $$$ guys now are Palmer, Seymour and…who else?
We definitely could do without paying a dinosaur like Seymour.
Blame Al…whatever, but it is a bummer.
May 4th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 9:08 pm
Our mega $$$ guys now are Palmer, Seymour and…who else?
We definitely could do without paying a dinosaur like Seymour.
Blame Al…whatever, but it is a bummer.
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Seymour still has some gas left in the tank, he can set an example for others, and he can provide a respected veteran for DA to yell at to show the newbies that nobody’s immune; Terry Cummings performed a similar function for Larry Brown’s San Antonio Spurs a generation ago.
Everything I’ve read suggests that DA’s going to have Belichick-level discipline on the new Raiders. Who better to have as a starter for one or two more years than one of Bill’s top guys?
May 4th, 2012 at 9:20 pm
KoolKell Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
I find it hard to blame the players for the abysmal Raiders Defense, because it’s been the same way for years, despite the comings and goings of many different players.
Can’t wait to see what it looks like this year, under the New Regime. “Multiple”
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A little passive/aggressive dig and the master mind of the the Raiders himself, eh? We all know what the story is or was. Let Coach rest in peace. We’re at the doorstep of a new era. Second generation now.
Code Black!
May 4th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-draft/09000d5d828e0b92/AFC-West-draft-grades?module=HP11_content_stream
May 4th, 2012 at 9:27 pm
Sapp spent most of the piece ripping on Dontari Poe, and spent the rest of it hurling a few cheap shots at us (although he seemed to approve of the Palmer trade). Whatever.
On the Dan Pastorini Bitter Ex-Jock scale, I’d give Sapp a 7.5.
May 4th, 2012 at 9:35 pm
corks been such a baby since his buds in the scouting department got fired he’s gone completely MIA on us. i fully expect a huge article in a matter of days telling us all how those scouts were amazing but al davis held them back. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
May 4th, 2012 at 9:36 pm
I thought the NFL Network took Sapp off the air. I saw him on there tonight. Did they feel bad for his financial woes and let him back on?
May 4th, 2012 at 9:43 pm
Sapp is an idiot. He is loud and ignorant. I hope he gets fired. I like the NFLN, but I can’t tolerate Sapp. I like most of the guys they have, but my favorites are R Eisen and J Dukes.
May 4th, 2012 at 9:48 pm
Too bad Eisen is from Mich.
May 4th, 2012 at 9:58 pm
LAKE SHOW HOMIES STAND UP N REPRESENT
Big 4th quarter comeback is on, grab a cold margarita, get a quick BJ from the nearest stripper and get ready for the Purple & Gold Attack
I’m going to polish off this Slim Jim while they “Fugg the Nugg” (patent pending)
May 4th, 2012 at 9:59 pm
Corks reaction was out of his ordinary for a guy who always professes objectivity. Just like they had to let hue go…they may have had to let the scouts who learned under al. We now consider receivers that run over a 4.5 because they can straight play.
May 4th, 2012 at 10:08 pm
As I have been watching the games from last season some things come up. Our secondary was awful though huff and branch are pretty solid. Mike bush, loved the dude but with our line, he may have seemed better than he is. Bresnahan was a terrible d coordinator and slow in adjustments. But, and I liked hue, he was so hot and cold with his play calling. Tons of yards/points in one qtr, then nothing for the other two three…the put pressure on a d coordinator who wasn’t very good, had pretty terrible corner play playing man to man with little front line talent much less depth….I hope the return to the zbs doesn’t take away from a pretty impressive o line.
May 4th, 2012 at 10:12 pm
Seymour: after this season he will be released. He did little last year except march us backward down the field with stupid unsportsman like conduct penalties.
TK: he’ll be around for 2 more yrs by virtue of his contract.
McClain: he’ll be retained, but barely. Serial underperformance and more cute tricks playing “thug in the ghetto” may get him released this year. The problem with McClain is we’ll take a bath on his guaranteed salary if we release him this season.
May 4th, 2012 at 10:14 pm
Corky defended Hue several time until he was fired, and now won’t even hear his name. That is true for many of the posters in here. I couldn’t stand Hue from the start – just a straight up pimp who missed his true calling.
May 4th, 2012 at 10:29 pm
Hue is an egomanical idiot who totally lost it in his last press conference asking for more power in the final say of hiring a GM, etc., etc.
Hue failed on a basic level: how could our CB’s run next to their opponent and almost never turn their heads and stick up a hand to try to make a play ???
Some blame flows back to Rod Woodsen but the buck ultimately stopped with Hue. As I watched us get torched by the pass time and time and time again in total disregard by our CB’s, I just wanted to punch Hue out – confront him as he came out of the Raider’s facility.
The question I ask is how can Gio gain 5 INT’s as a back up safety and our CB’s come up with goose eggs.
A more pertinent issue is that for the past 10 yrs the Raiders have not known how to play defense. How can Nnamdi, a “no shut down” shut down corner, be named a “shut down corner”? Nnamdi is a joke and has everyone fooled. Nnamdi has 11 INT’s in his career while Gio had 5 last year.
The Raiders due to AD’s folly forgot how to play, and had no personnel to teach them.
May 4th, 2012 at 10:36 pm
I’ll admit, Hue had me fooled for a little while. Up until the Texan game after Al’s passing. The crocodile tears started it off. Then we saw him start to bask in the spotlight. The Irish coffees, the pedicures, cutting Hagan, bringing in Housh, neglecting DHB, play calling, the trade ( I actually liked this one) etc. I would like to say his passion is for real, but quotes from his colleagues don’t cast a very good light on him.
All I can say is that I am more comfortable having a new captain at the ship at this point and time.
May 4th, 2012 at 10:39 pm
oh, and I almost forgot, that damned “Build a bully” slogan. For the love of god. Thanks for that one.
May 4th, 2012 at 10:46 pm
Morilla,
It doesn’t take long for pimps to show their true colors. Same with Hue, didn’t take him long either.
I don’t want to dwell on him, but am thankful he is gone. I think Mark and Reggie were saddled with a very difficult re-organization and have done the best they can.
I have done work for corporations and engineered board take-overs, assisted in ousting CEO’s, officers, board of directors and also done reorganization. Although the Raiders are a general partnership they were run almost like a closed corporation in which Al’s corporation “Raider’s Football” was the majority shareholder with exclusive management powers.
When someone like AD is ensconched in an entity like the Raiders for 50 yrs, and that entity passes the point of diminishing returns due to conduct of the Executive, the road to redemption becomes rocky.
Thankfully now we are on a new road.
May 4th, 2012 at 10:51 pm
Morilla,
I always had trouble with Hue’s statement, “We’re building a bully.” It was symptimatic of his lack of intelligence. A bully is a person who can’t back up their own claims. A bully causes trouble he/she cannot handle, then runs like the yellow dog he/she is. That was the Raiders problem last year: we came out swingin with a loud holler, all front and no behind, and couldn’t close the game.
May 4th, 2012 at 11:10 pm
Some nice posts hardline. I enjoy you and some of the new folks on here.
May 4th, 2012 at 11:18 pm
Hardline Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 10:51 pm
all front and no behind.
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That’s the definition of last years season.
May 4th, 2012 at 11:19 pm
Raider O Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 9:43 pm
Sapp is an idiot. He is loud and ignorant. I hope he gets fired. I like the NFLN, but I can’t tolerate Sapp. I like most of the guys they have, but my favorites are R Eisen and J Dukes.
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Sapp is a hypocritical idiot. Don’t know why NFLN hasn’t fired him yet.
May 4th, 2012 at 11:20 pm
I have done work for corporations and engineered board take-overs, assisted in ousting CEO’s, officers, board of directors and also done reorganization…ensconched?
May 4th, 2012 at 11:22 pm
Intrepid Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 11:20 pm
I have done work for corporations and engineered board take-overs, assisted in ousting CEO’s, officers, board of directors and also done reorganization…ensconched?
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Ahh…the snake evil dirty work.
May 4th, 2012 at 11:24 pm
I thought Sapp was fired. Oh well, I thought koolkell was banned. Guess not !
May 4th, 2012 at 11:37 pm
Yo Hardliggity, just got back from partying serious at Jer Ne @The Ritz and wrote this brand new sweet hip hop jam
It’s about the jets in my hot tub going out and having to take my bizzies out for fast food. It’s called “Double Double Trouble”
Imagine I’m rocking these lyrics over a crazy drum rhythm and Eddie Van Halen is finger tapping his brains out:
Yo ladies my tub ain’t got no bubbles
But there’s 2 of you, that equals double trouble
Let’s get freaky, make you scream n shout
But first I need an animal-style from In n Out
TAKIN THIS JAM ALL THE WAY TO NOKIA LIVE
May 4th, 2012 at 11:42 pm
Hardline Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 11:24 pm
I thought koolkell was banned.
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He was. He either weaseled his way back in under a different account or sent Steve a love poem.
May 4th, 2012 at 11:44 pm
I bet Hue Jack would kill it as a car salesman.
May 4th, 2012 at 11:51 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
Priesttj,
welcome back bra. i have changed my stance on pryor.
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Of course you’ve changed your stance on him. He’s the only back QB left on the roster.
May 4th, 2012 at 11:58 pm
Hue Jackson made some bold personnel decisions, most of which were understandable considering the not so great team he inherited from Al Davis. But Hue a pimp? A pimp? Something tells me this term wouldn’t be used to describe Shannahan or Gruden when they lobbied for more control. Racism just sours every discussion.
May 5th, 2012 at 12:00 am
If Palmer has an excellent year, Hue Jackson is as much to credit as anybody.
May 5th, 2012 at 12:03 am
Beachy, Eddie Van Halen played my guitar, wanted to buy it. Played in my backyard party. Long time ago. I’m Pasadena born and raised. Also met Jim Otto at llama shows in Quincy, Ca. Why am I telling you this; I have no idea. I’m drunk and talking to other idiots.
May 5th, 2012 at 12:09 am
If Palmer has an excellent year, Hue Jackson is as much to credit as anybody.
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If you’re referring to the trade, sure. Palmer wouldn’t be here without the trade Hue orchestrated. If, however, you’re referring to Hue having a hand in preparing or grooming him, LOL. Asking a guy just a few days removed from the couch to step in at halftime in a hopeless game to win it for us is not exactly the work of a genius, or anyone remotely lucid.
May 5th, 2012 at 12:19 am
The Beeech Dawg Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
Beeech,
You need your own HBO special.
Have you thought about trying the old hand buzzer gag?
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Thought about it? I tried it on my nads today in the shower and almost passed out giggling
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How about KRS-One school of rapping?
Beech has less entertainment value than Tyler the Creator. LOL
May 5th, 2012 at 12:22 am
DKnight007 Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 11:19 pm
Raider O Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 9:43 pm
Sapp is an idiot. He is loud and ignorant. I hope he gets fired. I like the NFLN, but I can’t tolerate Sapp. I like most of the guys they have, but my favorites are R Eisen and J Dukes.
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Sapp is a hypocritical idiot. Don’t know why NFLN hasn’t fired him yet.
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Sapp won’t be renewed after his contract runs out. He falsely linked Jeremy Shockey as the source of the bounty scandal – Shockey will sue…. The U is in full free-fall dysfunction these days…then that Florida Land scandal involving ex-Canes William Joseph ….
May 5th, 2012 at 12:29 am
Sapp…here’s a guy that has 240 pairs of Jordans, lost his SB ring, is in debt for back child support and alimony, and has filed for bankruptcy. Real stand-up guy there.
May 5th, 2012 at 12:33 am
Sleep now, little angels, we will all feel better on cinco de mayo. Maybe not so much come the seis de mayo.
May 5th, 2012 at 12:53 am
According to Sapp our 2nd this year wasn’t used towards Taiwan Jones nor Joe Barksdale, our first and second were used to get Palmer. Criner also went to Arizona State, not Arizona. Why is this guy still on TV?
May 5th, 2012 at 1:27 am
Ah, 1127, Criner did go to Arizona, not Az. State. But you’re right on the nature of the second round pick (went to new England. All one had to do is review the draft 7 see “new England from Oakland 2 the #2 in question).
May 5th, 2012 at 1:53 am
Ah, 1127, Criner did go to Arizona, not Az. State. But you’re right on the nature of the second round pick (went to new England. All one had to do is review the draft & see “new England from Oakland 2 the #2 in question).
May 5th, 2012 at 2:09 am
I believe he was saying Sapp said he went to Ariz.St. not Arizona.
May 5th, 2012 at 2:52 am
For all on here worried about Lechler losing his job to an UDFA punter. According to the new CBA all undrafted rookies are signed to a 3 year deal. I wouldn’t read into it at all. Just an extra camp leg.
May 5th, 2012 at 3:24 am
Raiders need to take advantage of Baltimore losing Suggs and trade McClain for a 2nd rounder in 2013.
May 5th, 2012 at 3:41 am
You have to fight…..for your right…..to paaaaaaarteee.
May 5th, 2012 at 4:43 am
but no more…
May 5th, 2012 at 5:13 am
Good luck today LMN.
May 5th, 2012 at 5:33 am
Try Some Reality Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 11:51 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
Priesttj,
welcome back bra. i have changed my stance on pryor.
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Of course you’ve changed your stance on him. He’s the only back QB left on the roster.
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That is hilarious.
May 5th, 2012 at 6:02 am
neilb Says:
May 5th, 2012 at 5:13 am
Good luck today LMN.
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Neilb,
Liverpool-chelsea ? yeah, well another season down the drain..
whats your thoughts about your new National team coach?
May 5th, 2012 at 7:54 am
The NFL should take a look at the hand to helmet slapping and head butting during celebrations to help reduce head trama. No fines or discipline just a friendly reminder. Some of head blows by the actions mentioned above appear to do more damage than a head on tackle. You got to remember the brain is absorbing the impact of all blows and cannot differentiate a friendly head slap from a helmet to helmet tackle.
May 5th, 2012 at 7:58 am
1123.RaiderSam Says:
May 5th, 2012 at 12:19 am
The Beeech Dawg Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
Beeech,
You need your own HBO special.
Have you thought about trying the old hand buzzer gag?
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Thought about it? I tried it on my nads today in the shower and almost passed out giggling
==========j
How about KRS-One school of rapping?
Beech has less entertainment value than Tyler the Creator. LOL
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I like u Raider Sam, but remember everybody has their own sense of humor.
I used to be one of those “Morning Zoo” type of radio hosts and Beech’s weird, wacky stuff is exactly what we’d look for. I got sooooo sick of lame “peniz jokes”. Just say the word “boobs” and you’d get laughs. It’s what every morning guy would do to avoid the effort of creating anything truly humorous.
Humor is in the eye of the beholder. Some just love Chris Rock’s schtick…I can’t stand it. His voice, his jokes, his face, EVERYTHING…but some just love him. I liked R. Pryor…alot of guys hate him.
I can tell Beech is a smart guy and his humor isn’t for everyone, but I think there are more than a few that find him pretty funny.
May 5th, 2012 at 8:17 am
but I think there are more than a few that find him pretty funny.
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I doubt there is more than 5 people who actually read his entire posts.
May 5th, 2012 at 8:21 am
whats the opposite to a oxymoran?
I think its pretty weird ‘Giro d’italia’ started today, of all places in Denmark!?!??!
May 5th, 2012 at 8:39 am
^^^actualy is somewhat of a oxymoron
May 5th, 2012 at 8:49 am
Not long till kick-off LMN.2 Cup finals a poor season?
A lot of respect for Roy.He’s been there and done it.
May 5th, 2012 at 9:04 am
Try Some Reality Says:
May 5th, 2012 at 12:29 am
Sapp…here’s a guy that has 240 pairs of Jordans, lost his SB ring, is in debt for back child support and alimony, and has filed for bankruptcy. Real stand-up guy there.
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Yep! Sapp is a an utter joke with zero credibility.
NLFN needs to let him go…ASAPP!! haha
May 5th, 2012 at 9:05 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
May 5th, 2012 at 8:17 am
but I think there are more than a few that find him pretty funny.
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I doubt there is more than 5 people who actually read his entire posts.
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Um, even that’s a stretch.
May 5th, 2012 at 9:06 am
Are Jerry & Cork on spring break?
May 5th, 2012 at 9:12 am
NavyRaider Says:
May 5th, 2012 at 2:52 am
For all on here worried about Lechler losing his job to an UDFA punter. According to the new CBA all undrafted rookies are signed to a 3 year deal. I wouldn’t read into it at all. Just an extra camp leg.
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Marquette King is there to simulate the crappy punting of the rest of the league because only the Raiders have Lechler.
May 5th, 2012 at 9:17 am
I like The Beeech!
May 5th, 2012 at 9:23 am
NavyRaider Says:
For all on here worried about Lechler losing his job to an UDFA punter. According to the new CBA all undrafted rookies are signed to a 3 year deal. I wouldn’t read into it at all. Just an extra camp leg.
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Raidernationdave Says:
Marquette King is there to simulate the crappy punting of the rest of the league because only the Raiders have Lechler.
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Yeah, over the last couple of years I’ve watched too many teams in the 4th quarter of a tight game, after a drive stalled, at say their own 38, try to play field position only to have some lousy Punter come in and shank a 20 yarder.
We don’t need that.
May 5th, 2012 at 9:28 am
In a game of inches, a Punter can make a big contribution, hell the Jaguars just drafted one in the 3rd round, crazy move if you ask me, but this is what HC Mike Mularkey said:
“He can change the field position in this league and put your defense in a much better place, which eventually will put your offense in a better place,” Mularkey said.
“He is really for all three phases, but he really does make a difference for both sides of the ball.”
The Jags rookie still has to come out and actually perform, Shane Lechler has been doing it for years.
May 5th, 2012 at 9:37 am
Is a punter worth $5.65 million? Who can have a bigger impact on a team, a punter or a CB who gets INTs?
May 5th, 2012 at 9:39 am
Q&A WITH RAIDERS DRAFT PICK BILUKIDI
Friday, May 04, 2012, 11:44am
The Raiders selected Georgia State defensive lineman Christo Bilukidi in the sixth round of the NFL draft, No. 189 overall. Following is the transcript of his conference call with Bay Area reporters from just after his selection on Saturday…
Question: The pick surprised the so-called draft experts, did it surprise you?
Answer: Kind of…it really didn’t because up from the All-Star game I really did what I needed to do to show a lot of these scouts that I can play at a higher level. From my pro day, all my measurables that I tested were really good. All these teams already were calling me and I had a really good feeling about it. It wasn’t a big surprise to me.
Q: Did you have a lot of contact with the Raiders?
A: I went on a visit, they brought me on a visit. They were calling me, D-line coach was talking to me. I had a lot of contacts with them.
Q: Any idea whether they plan to keep you inside or more on the outside?
A: I’ll play anywhere. They haven’t really specified where I would be playing as a tackle or end. I told them, like in college I’ve been playing everywhere from zero technique all the way wide nine technique. I’ll play anywhere.
Q: What got you started playing football?
A: It was actually one of my best friends back here in Ottawa. He played actually in the CFL for the Toronto Argonauts. I was always a basketball player and he asked me if I wanted to play football my senior year in high school. I started playing and started liking it.
Q: What do you like about it?
A: Contact. It’s not like basketball. Basketball is physical but football is just another game and it’s more physical. The whole contact about it, just hitting people, that’s what I like to do.
Q: Who is your friend?
A: Djems Kouame.
Q: Which parts of your game do you need to work on right now?
A: Staying low. Obviously, a tall guy like me, about 6-4½, playing on the D-line, just being as low as I can, because it’s always like every coach says, ‘lowest man wins.’ So that’s really the only aspect I think I need to work on, and obviously with coaches like on the Raiders, with so much experience, they’ll teach me how to play low and get leverage on people and just dominate.
Q: Is your father still a diplomat for Angola?
A: I don’t have contact with him, so I can’t even tell you.
Q: Was it difficult to move from place to place so often, and how did it shape your character?
A: It made me cultured because I lived in so many different cities and countries and stuff. So definitely just opens my mind more, because I learn more about different people, and just makes me more humble, and makes me appreciate people far more than if someone just lived in like a little small city and didn’t know what was going on around the world, so yeah.
Q: How challenging will the upgrade in talent be at this level?
A: It’s going to be a challenge, just like for everybody else that’s come into the NFL. It’s not college, and it’s not high school anymore. Like one coach told me, you’ve got to throw away everything you learned in college and then come and grasp everything you learn in the NFL. So it’s going to be difficult these couple, few weeks, because I’ve just got to adjust to it. But after that, I’m a smart person, I’m very bright, I learn very fast, so I’m not too worried about the whole transition to the NFL.
Q: So you don’t feel behind?
A: See, I would say that would be the case, because I went to a small school, Georgia State, and it’s a brand-new program. So our coaching staff was very young, as compared with an SEC program where they have coaches that have long experience. But to me, because of my athleticism and my height and my size, I’ll be able to do whatever anybody else on the D-line is doing, because like I said, I’m a fast learner and I’m athletic at the same time.
Q: You’re the first player from Georgia State to ever be drafted into the NFL, yes?
A: First Georgia State ever to be drafted, yessir.
Q: How does that feel?
A: Feels great. Like, I’ve been on-line with you guys, my coach has been calling me. Waiting for an answer, but I bet they’re real proud of me. Definitely feels really good.
May 5th, 2012 at 9:39 am
NavyRaider Says:
May 5th, 2012 at 2:52 am
For all on here worried about Lechler losing his job to an UDFA punter. According to the new CBA all undrafted rookies are signed to a 3 year deal. I wouldn’t read into it at all. Just an extra camp leg.
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Thanks for the info! That also explains why Andre Hardy (who’s a guaranteed PS guy this year) got a three-year deal as well.
May 5th, 2012 at 9:41 am
Lechler is the best punter in the league, but I don’t think the best punter in the game should make as much as a PB CB.
May 5th, 2012 at 9:55 am
For the last 12 years the one thing that has stood out the most the Oakland has been the kicking game. Sea-Bass, Lechler and Condo have been the best in the league for years.
Too bad the team has really let them go to waste.
Lechler punts have consistently pinned the opposition deep only to have Raider defenses collapse time and again.
Better take advantage while you can Oakland.
May 5th, 2012 at 9:59 am
O.
The going rate for a Pro Bowl CB is about 10 million a year, right?.
Nnamdi, Revis, Champ, Woodson, Jonathan Joseph, Finnegann, Brent Grimes, Brandon Carr, that’s the average on their deals.
Even a 2nd tier CB like Carlos Rogers got 7.3 a year in average salary.
May 5th, 2012 at 10:02 am
Lechler’s deal averaged 4 million a year, that’s nowhere near what top CB’s make.
May 5th, 2012 at 10:02 am
Bob,
I was thinking about Asante Samuel to be honest with you when I wrote that post. Falcons signed him to a 3 year deal worth around $18 million.
May 5th, 2012 at 10:03 am
Lechler’s salary for this year is $5.65 million according to Bcz (our cap expert).
May 5th, 2012 at 10:10 am
I dont think RM and Co. believe in paying 5.65 mil per year for a punter.
May 5th, 2012 at 10:21 am
“Average” salary. Get it?
May 5th, 2012 at 10:22 am
A lot of fazoles for a punter.
May 5th, 2012 at 10:23 am
Asante Samuel got a 3 year $18 million deal. I was talking about him. Get it?
May 5th, 2012 at 10:26 am
Try Some Reality Says:
May 5th, 2012 at 10:22 am
A lot of fazoles for a punter.
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Lechler ain’t your “average” punter.
May 5th, 2012 at 10:27 am
Raider O Says:
Lechler’s salary for this year is $5.65 million according to Bcz (our cap expert).
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It is for 2012, he signed a 4 year deal worth 16 million with a signig bonus (already paid) of 4.4 million, 9 million in salary over the 4 years and 3 million in incntives he’s collected every year.
So his real money salary for 2012 is 3,8 in salary,and 750,000 in incentives for a total of 4.55, but when you factor in the prorated yearly amount of the 4.4 million bonus he received for signing (1.1 million), it jumps to 5.65.
May 5th, 2012 at 10:27 am
Who cares about avg salary? The guy is making $5.65 million this year!
May 5th, 2012 at 10:30 am
As much as I like Lechler, the last ten years have shown that having the best punter ever doesn’t really mean that much. Still, I don’t see him going anywhere, ridiculous salary or not
May 5th, 2012 at 10:30 am
It counts as $5.65 million against the cap this season. What I’m saying is I rather have a PB CB like Samuel for around the same salary against the cap.
May 5th, 2012 at 10:36 am
Raider O Says:
May 5th, 2012 at 10:30 am
It counts as $5.65 million against the cap this season. What I’m saying is I rather have a PB CB like Samuel for around the same salary against the cap.
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You’re not going to start acting like BSJ, who apparently thinks we’ll go undefeated for the next decade if we cut Jon Condo?
May 5th, 2012 at 10:39 am
LOL Duck. I hope not. Preppie had a point. We are paying 3 STs players $8.55 million.
May 5th, 2012 at 10:39 am
Has* a point.
May 5th, 2012 at 10:43 am
OK, lemme see if I get this straight O. You want to dump an all-pro punter, a dude that has been money for 11 years, in favor of an unproven rookie from Bumb-fck-Egypt State so the Raiders cab go get Carne Asada Samuels?
Absolutely stunning.
Reg, are you listening?
May 5th, 2012 at 10:45 am
Carne Asada” = Meat.
Which is what could classify Samuels deteriorating cover skills.
Can you say Stanford Routt?
May 5th, 2012 at 10:50 am
You don’t have it straight. Can you read English, or do you need a translator? You need to work on your reading (and writing) skills. I never said we should dump him.
May 5th, 2012 at 10:50 am
If Asante Samuel is so great, why couldn’t the Eagles get anything more than a 7th-rounder?
May 5th, 2012 at 10:51 am
Speaking of Carne Asada, I could really go for some carne asada fries, the way they make’em in San Diego. That would hit the spot!
May 5th, 2012 at 10:52 am
Lechler’s in the final year of his deal, IIRC. We could restructure and extend him now and lessen this year’s cap hit. He’ll probably play at this level until the middle of the decade, if not a bit longer.
Then again, maybe Reggie’s already doing this.
May 5th, 2012 at 10:54 am
Because of his prev salary, and teams knew he would get released if the Eagles were not able to trade him. That decreased his trade value
May 5th, 2012 at 10:54 am
Alberto’s in Orange County makes the best carne asada fries.
Jerry and Steve, please give us a new post! It can be on Tommy Kelly’s favorite color–anything, just give us a Raiders post STAT!
May 5th, 2012 at 10:55 am
SR Raider Says:
May 5th, 2012 at 10:51 am
Speaking of Carne Asada, I could really go for some carne asada fries, the way they make’em in San Diego. That would hit the spot!
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I already celebrated Cinco De Mayo today by purchasing authentic taquitos from a local carneceria (Quik Trip).
May 5th, 2012 at 10:57 am
They don’t even serve carne asada fries in the bay area. Why? Best hangover food ever
May 5th, 2012 at 11:15 am
I just Carne Asasda Fries on Thursday out in Milpitas…. There’s a cople places out in the Bay that has Carne Asada Fries
May 5th, 2012 at 11:23 am
*had
May 5th, 2012 at 11:24 am
Neil B…
I feel suckerpunched!
Thats no where allright! effing zebras!
Grrrrr! more beers please!
May 5th, 2012 at 11:31 am
We got a place here in the Ville that makes the sickest Carne Asasda fires. Instant heart attack.
May 5th, 2012 at 11:32 am
Anyone see the article about the convicted sex offender and Ohio State recruits?Looks as if we might have another Penn State story brewing.
May 5th, 2012 at 11:33 am
1119.Sullivan44 Says:
May 4th, 2012 at 11:58 pm
Hue Jackson made some bold personnel decisions, most of which were understandable considering the not so great team he inherited from Al Davis. But Hue a pimp? A pimp? Something tells me this term wouldn’t be used to describe Shannahan or Gruden when they lobbied for more control. Racism just sours every discussion.
1120.Sullivan44 Says:
May 5th, 2012 at 12:00 am
If Palmer has an excellent year, Hue Jackson is as much to credit as anybody.
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I personally am tired of “racism”, and in the case of Sullivan44, “reverse racism.” This is my post to which he is referring. First of all, IMO, being a pimp is HueJack’s true calling. Why does that translate to racism ? There are white and black pimps in this world. Secondly, I can’t stand Shanahan; most posters in here call him Shanarat. Are those posters who call Shanahan, “Shanarat”, rat racists?? Rats have their place in this world, since they rid our environment of refuse.
And Gruden, he’s just a simple white boy, who after riding out his Raider’s tenure, won a Superbowl with the Bucs because of his inside knowledge of our club. I think Gruden was a good, but not a great coach. My question is, how does that translate to racism in identifying Hue’s natural calling: pimp???
In defending Terrel Pryor time and again, I commonly attack the ” the white boy”, Andrew Luck. I just don’t see it in Luck, the talent or eliteness, and I demonstrated that with both TP and Luck’s stats playing the Oregon Ducks. Because I criticize both whites and blacks does it mean I am prejudice against whites and blacks; or maybe I am prejudiced against everyone?
Since the NFL, including staff and players, is nearly 70% black it’s almost impossible not to conjure racist imagery in the minds of reverse racists like Sullivan44.
Sullivan44 needs to remove his racial blinders and get on with the task, analyzing the Raiders.
May 5th, 2012 at 11:33 am
Raider O Says:
May 5th, 2012 at 10:50 am
You don’t have it straight. Can you read English, or do you need a translator? You need to work on your reading (and writing) skills. I never said we should dump him.
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OK, then I don’t get it. What are you advocating? Asking Shane to take less money or what? If he don’t take a pay cut then what? All for a kid from Bum-fck-Egypt State?
May 5th, 2012 at 11:35 am
RaiderDuck Says:
May 5th, 2012 at 10:52 am
Lechler’s in the final year of his deal, IIRC. We could restructure and extend him now and lessen this year’s cap hit. He’ll probably play at this level until the middle of the decade, if not a bit longer.
Then again, maybe Reggie’s already doing this.
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let us really, really hope so. Lechler has proven year in and year out that he at least gives our crappy D’s over the years a chance for a long field. the hang time is very unreal, and any group of nobodys on special teams can look like they’re studs with Shane booting the ball.
yes he he needs a new contract. no other team will pay a punter that much. let us hope he gives tribute to Al Davis, and by selecting him in the 5th round, LOL
May 5th, 2012 at 11:43 am
PARTYDUDE 8000 IN FULL EFFECT
Yo, the Beeech Diggity’s 20th Annual Cinco De Mayo Jammy JAM is already in full effect, me and the Certified Platinum Posse were up till 4am oiling and shining the PARTYDUDE
The strippers have already filled up the jacuzzi and there’s some sweet lezbo action going on all over the bean bags
Don’t worry, I already covered them all with bear skin rugs to protect against crabs
Yo, Rasta Ganja is setting up and will be rocking the smooth island jams, then I’ll be doing a bit of hilarious stand up comedy, then perhaps a surprise song from 2 Kewl 4 Skool depending on how tired my weiner is from all the stripper BJs
Please don’t tell TMZ
But don’t worry Nerds, I’ll give the blog updates so you don’t feel too left out
BRINGING THE MARIACHI TO MY HIBACHI, PENTHOUSE WIZZLE
May 5th, 2012 at 11:45 am
Shane won’t take a paycut, but more money stretched out overall. BigMac will comply, simply because he’s a seasoned veteran with long standing ties here in the Bay area… and not to mention he fuggin deserves it 100%(how many miffed punts have you seen from him?)
May 5th, 2012 at 11:49 am
Beeech Dawg,
Dawg says:
“The strippers have already filled up the jacuzzi and there’s some sweet lezbo action going on all over the bean bags
Don’t worry, I already covered them all with bear skin rugs to protect against crabs”
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Yo Dawg,
What’s going on over there? How will bear skin rugs protect against crabs ???? YIKES!!
May 5th, 2012 at 11:52 am
Dave,
Read posts 1151 and 1154.
May 5th, 2012 at 11:55 am
Lechler guarantees a BOOMER everytime his foot touches the football… he’s worth some good money over the next 6 years or so. GET IT DONE BIGMAC!
once he and Branch are done, i suspect he’ll get in the hunt for the UDFA pool … and not to mention the UFA pool… EJ Henderson anyone?
May 5th, 2012 at 11:56 am
OH also Franklin! get him on the cheap-cheap loaded with incentives. maybe the big slug will actually play this season!
May 5th, 2012 at 11:56 am
Some of Beech’s tranny coke whorres don’t shave their man muffs.
May 5th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
Yo Hardline
The bear skin rugs are just a precaution. I hose every stripper’s privates down with Brazilian tanning spray when they enter the penthouse, but the boyz in the Certified Platinum Posse still like to go bareback
Last time I caught crabs from a Spearmint Rhino babe I wrote this sweet song for Rasta Ganja, which we’ll be performing acoustic (with steel drums, natch) in just a few minutes
It’s called “Dang, My Nads Itch, Mon”
Shout out to Kingston Town
When Bob (Marley) and I hang, we never frown
We smoke the doobie and get very Irie
But these crabs from the strippers make me balls feel fiery
BEEECH DAWG CINCO DE MAYO JAM IN FULL EFFECT
May 5th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
My “racial blinders” removed, I still don’t see where Hue Jackson is a “pimp”. A shrewd, power hungry NFL football coach? Check. But a pimp? No. And I do believe the label of “pimp” is thinly veiled racism today, as the term “thug”. These terms are almost always applied to blacks.
May 5th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Let me ask you this, Hardline.
What about Hue Jackson’s personality, demeanor, or appearance would indicate he’s more of a “pimp” than any other power hungry NFL coach?
May 5th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
he will be known for the GREATEST TRADE IN NFL HISTORY … that’s about it … LOL
i still think it’ll benefit this team this season. would you rather want Campbell or Flynn? geeeeshh… or wait a minute, how about drafting Tannehill or Weeden ?!
May 5th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
If Palmer has a good year, Jackson is as much to credit as anyone. He’s not a Raider if not for Jackson. And the irony in it all will be that Jackson was fired in part for his shrewd personnel moves. If those moves pan out, the Raiders are going to have some pie on their faces.
May 5th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
yes they will.
this year and beyond. i’d say pending any major injuries, Palmer will last another good 4 years of consistent play …
the INT’s will go down this year… the man has a chance to step back and learn this thing. plus with this bootleg system, he’ll have to take less shots down field, thus lessening his chances for int’s … am i wrong?
May 5th, 2012 at 12:53 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
May 5th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
My “racial blinders” removed, I still don’t see where Hue Jackson is a “pimp”. A shrewd, power hungry NFL football coach? Check. But a pimp? No. And I do believe the label of “pimp” is thinly veiled racism today, as the term “thug”. These terms are almost always applied to blacks.
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Hmm, have you ever thought your approximation of these terms is in direct relation to the concurance in your specific sphere of experience?
May 5th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
Code fn Black we need a new Post!
May 5th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
May 5th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
If Palmer has a good year, Jackson is as much to credit as anyone. He’s not a Raider if not for Jackson. And the irony in it all will be that Jackson was fired in part for his shrewd personnel moves. If those moves pan out, the Raiders are going to have some pie on their faces.
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It doesn’t take a shrewd personal man to Identify the problem we were facing, and determine the solution. This team, as well as most all others, was not going anywhere it wants to be without a well above average starting QB. Hue merely did what needed to be done in order to secure one.
Let me simplify for you.
No TOP QB = No Superbowl.
May 5th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
Raider O Says:
May 5th, 2012 at 11:52 am
Dave,
Read posts 1151 and 1154.
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Those posts don’t answer my question.
What do you advocate doing with SL?
May 5th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
Do you want him to restructure his contract?
What do you propose?
May 5th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
What’s a beautiful day in God’s Country aka Bay Area!…..Downtown Oakland was super smackin last night as the B@uce was staggerin and swaggerin all night!
As for the Coliseum City thing or specifically the A’s…only better news keeps going. Dknight sorry bruh but I’m not with a SJ move ever. No knock on the 408 but that is a joke of a baseball town in all seriousness for the A’s. SJ is super in the red and Giants will never go for it knowing that 35 pct of their money comes from the area and they have their minor league team there. Be serious now….the Giants broadcast their games on NBC bay area which is located in…..ding ding San Jose!….You think they gonna lose out on that cash? Never
May 5th, 2012 at 1:28 pm
The A’s belong in OAKLAND as do the Raiders..
EASTBAY PRIDE
May 5th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
As for the Warriors….it is pitiful anyone ever sports any fkin SF or the City logo bs……That energy you have at regular homes when we have stunk will dwarf any energy you see in SF. SF ain’t a basketball town and never will be! Those lame liberal arts going latte sipping queens don’t give a damn about hoop. Oakland is a proven basketball city and SF will embarrass the nba. When Coliseum City is built or plan financed….Lacob and Gruber will want to stay…..A’s were the key in all of this and Warriors will not go to lame ass SF
May 5th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
Sullivan44,
Let’s examine Hue’s pimping behavior:
1. Undue Influence of the Susceptible: Jackson took advantage of a dying and mentally incompetent old man, in the throes of dementia, to gain his post and have Cable fired. Corky claims that is a well known fact inside the organization that Jackson manipulated AD over his hiring. In the end Hue did no better than Cable, for whom he ousted.
2. Breach of Agent’s Fiduciary Duty: Jackson, simply put, under the law was an agent of AD and also the Raiders’ organization, a general partnership. Hue claimed we would win the division, for which he had inside knowledge, and also claimed he would fix the “D”. Jackson did neither, while secretly working toward his own advantage which he proved in his last press conference. Hue stated he wanted more power to control the club, even though he was incompetent. In that last press conference Hue admitted he had lied to the Nation and knew after the loss of the Buffalo game we would not be making the playoffs.
3. Breach of Agent’s Loyalty to His/Her Principal: Hue “let it all hang out” in that last presser, could not control his mouth. He portrayed himself as a power hunger egomaniac, disparaged players, organization and ownership, when in actuality the responsibility for the failed season was Hue’s and Hue’s alone.
4. Agent’s Failure of Duty of Competency: Hue failed to perform in a competent manner, while holding out that he was an “expert” in his field, with bold claims of “building a bully.” Hue fired Hagan, force fed DHB and brought in Hous, all to the detriment of the club. Hue’s game management was horrible, his prosecution of the defense was horrible (just left it to an incompetent DC, even after AD’s passing essentially leaving control of all to Hue), and his use of players was terrible: after DMAC went down and AD passed, we turned into a one dementional team which our opponents rolled over.
5. Agent’s Negligent or Intentional Misrepresentation (McClain): Hue sung the praises of McClain, exhorting that McClain was of such talent and brilliance he would remain as the Captain of the D and standout performer for years to come. Even after McClain’s gunplay incident Hue did not discipline McClain in any manner. Hue it seems purposefully misrepresented material facts regarding McClain and McClain’s abilities, or unintentionally mispresented same facts: in either case it is misrepresentation, and it damaged our club.
6. Agent’s Incompetency in CP Trade: Jackson gave away the house for CP. CP is our QB this season; I won’t challenge that. Just like I claimed numerous, numerous and numerous times that JC was strictly backup material (for which I was proven correct) I claimed and continue to claim CP’s performance last year is the best we’ll see from him: good passing stats, high INT’s, good but not great performance. CP is past his prime and Hue’s giving what he gave to get him was past the market rate. If it wasn’t past the market rate why did CP sit on his own couch in SD until the Raiders called? Another thing is that Hue is employed by the Bengals, a telling effigy to conflict of interest in the CP trade.
Now I could continue here regarding Agency but I have accounted enough that Hue’s behavior mocked that of a pimp: using others for his own benefit with no regard to the greater good. Pimp occupation is easier to explain than Agency to the posters here. IMO they understand it better.
Of course Reggie saw right through Hue, saw the pimp behavior.
I ask you Sullivan44, in what I have described above, how can you demonstrate I am a racist? BTW, I am not interested in your opinion, but only interested in facts proving my material is racist and degrades the blog.
May 5th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
As for the Raiders…they going nowhere…at worst with all r teams the Raiders will stay put. Al already knew he messed up leaving and that’s why he came back. I already got wind of something will be announced during preseason or early September on that…..as said before Candlesh!t or Cal’s stadium is where we would play….I’m bettin Cal since Raiders did that in the 70s….its where Dolphins streak ended! Of course the family was there
Oakland Athletics
Oakland Raiders
And we will petiont after Coliseum City goes down for the Oakland Warriors!
510 baby!
Respect it or Check it cuz ya sho ain’t gonna check it
May 5th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
Roger Gordell whats next on rule changes.Are you going to start making these guys play flag football.These guys know the risk of playing football and they get paid big bucks to do what they do.I miss smash mouth football and the game needs it.If players don,t want to get hurt than don,t play the game.This is tackle football for goodness sakes.
May 5th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
And big shoutout to my Mexican Raider La Familia! Happy Cinco de Mayo! A bortha like myself loves my mexican raider cats! Tecates and Tequila only for me today!
May 5th, 2012 at 1:41 pm
B.
Got a question.
Does the city council still seem serious. What’s the mood like with them?
May 5th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
I cant wait for the Monday Nite game…. New Jack Tatum jersey on Order…. Cant wait to party it up
May 5th, 2012 at 1:44 pm
Brien Dixon, it’s nice to see you back to the blog.
May 5th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
I was going to order a Miles Burris Jersey but I also did that with a Chaz Schilens Jersey on his rookie year and we seen how that turned out… No more rookie jersey’s for me again
May 5th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
Bullsh*t. Jerry U should be ashamed you let your name get attached to this pile.
Players take drugs. Players abuse their bodies. Players are prone to come from bad backgrounds in many cases which makes them violent and volatile sometimes. Sometimes they kill themselves.
Given the number of players in and out of the NFL of course a few of them are going to commit suicide.
Are there any studies even saying the rate is signigficantly higher for NFLers? Are there any studies proving its collisions causing brain damage and not genetic predispostion and or abusive use of pharamaceuticlas? I’ll wager NOT.
Listen, I worked at Dominos back in the day. They make Millions now. Doesn’t mean because I wrecked my car 20 yrs ago I can sue them because my back hurts now.
Complete and hinky BS going on with this crap. “Dignity after Football” is going to RUIN contact sports.
http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders/ci_20556636/seaus-death-sobering-wake-up-call-former-nfl
May 5th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
I’m going to get a Marquette King jersey.
May 5th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
May 5th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
I’m going to get a Marquette King jersey.
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LOL!
May 5th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
Raidernationdave Says:
May 5th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
Raider O Says:
May 5th, 2012 at 11:52 am
Dave,
Read posts 1151 and 1154.
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Those posts don’t answer my question.
What do you advocate doing with SL?
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Hello? Is anybody out there?
May 5th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
RM: OK, here’s the plan fellas
The Fellas: Yeah!
RM: What we’re gonna do is ask Shane Lechler, who’s been with the team for, like, ever to restructure his contract so we can save a couple mil a year.
The Fellas: Sounds good Reg. What if he says no?
RM: Well then we’ll just cut him and sign the new kid Margarine King!
The Fellas: Damn Reg you’re fcking brilliant!
May 5th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
“Reggie, Reggie he’s our man! If he don’t cut ‘em no one can!”
May 5th, 2012 at 2:00 pm
Who would ever name their kid Margarine?
May 5th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
Raidernationdave Says:
May 5th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
Raidernationdave Says:
May 5th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
Raider O Says:
May 5th, 2012 at 11:52 am
Dave,
Read posts 1151 and 1154.
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Those posts don’t answer my question.
What do you advocate doing with SL?
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Hello? Is anybody out there?
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I’m lost here. What does my posting about potential new venues in Oakland have to do with Shane Lechler?
May 5th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
May 5th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
I’m going to get a Marquette King jersey.
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I’ll assume you’re joking. It’ll have only a slightly longer useful life than your Stryker Sulak one.
May 5th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
I give Marquette King a %40 chance of making the team. Won’t be surprised if Reggie keeps him since Lechler’s contract expires after this year.
May 5th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
Don’t forget about Slade Norris. I really wish Stryker and Slade would have made the team.
May 5th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
freezetag168 Says:
May 5th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
Raidernationdave Says:
May 5th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
Raidernationdave Says:
May 5th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
Raider O Says:
May 5th, 2012 at 11:52 am
Dave,
Read posts 1151 and 1154.
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Those posts don’t answer my question.
What do you advocate doing with SL?
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Hello? Is anybody out there?
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I’m lost here. What does my posting about potential new venues in Oakland have to do with Shane Lechler?
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Dude, I wasn’t addressing you. I was addressing Raider O.
May 5th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
May 5th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
I give Marquette King a %40 chance of making the team. Won’t be surprised if Reggie keeps him since Lechler’s contract expires after this year.
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OK, I wont be surprised. More like shocked and in utter disbelief.
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
May 5th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
Don’t forget about Slade Norris. I really wish Stryker and Slade would have made the team.
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Why? Gotta be able to play with a cool name.
May 5th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
Stryker and Slade could have been the name of a 80s cop movie.
May 5th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
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I’m lost here. What does my posting about potential new venues in Oakland have to do with Shane Lechler?
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Dude, I wasn’t addressing you. I was addressing Raider O.
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OK, it was just that Raider O quoted my post to respond to yours. That’s what I was unclear about. Has to be a typo then.
May 5th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
May 5th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
Stryker and Slade could have been the name of a 80s cop movie.
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LOL! No doubt!
May 5th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
Dave,
I like SL, he is the best punter in the game, but a great punter at $5.65 million is a luxury that we can’t afford at this time IMHO. I think we should restructure his contract, give him a long term deal (retire a Raider), and make it cap friendly.
May 5th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
Margarine! You go booooooooooooooy!
May 5th, 2012 at 3:01 pm
OK, it was just that Raider O quoted my post to respond to yours. That’s what I was unclear about. Has to be a typo then.
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I think you are confused. I don’t see any posts from you between 1150-1160.
May 5th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
Raider O Says:
May 5th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
Dave,
I like SL, he is the best punter in the game, but a great punter at $5.65 million is a luxury that we can’t afford at this time IMHO. I think we should restructure his contract, give him a long term deal (retire a Raider), and make it cap friendly.
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I say bite the bullet and pay the dude! Sh*t the dude’s been the most stable fricken thing in the franchise the last 12 years.
Shane’s money. Pay the man.
May 5th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
Anybody who thinks we should cut Shane loose doesn’t remember the horrid punting we had post-Stan Talley.
Keep Lechler and make sure the ONLY two pro unis he ever wears are the Raiders’ and the AFC Pro Bowl squad.
May 5th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
1239. word. some gettin spoiled. takin the best kicking game in the history of the League for granted. Eh, cut him. Hes JUST a punter!
Just the greatest punter in the history of football ya knot heads!
May 5th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
1238. SOMEONE will…
May 5th, 2012 at 3:34 pm
A lot of good players get released due to their salaries and cap management.
May 5th, 2012 at 3:38 pm
P Manning got released! You People are funny.
May 5th, 2012 at 3:45 pm
Raider O Says:
May 5th, 2012 at 3:38 pm
P Manning got released! You People are funny.
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Right. In favor of the “next” Peyton Manning we’re told. If the Raiders had drafted the “next” Ray ‘Fricken’ Guy then you might have a point. The Raiders didn’t draft a punter but rather signed a kid named “Margarine” as an UDFA to be punter in camp.
Anything short of another Ray Guy and blowing out SL makes no sense.
May 5th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
May 5th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
Anybody who thinks we should cut Shane loose doesn’t remember the horrid punting we had post-Stan Talley.
Keep Lechler and make sure the ONLY two pro unis he ever wears are the Raiders’ and the AFC Pro Bowl squad.
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Thanks for that point…it makes sense.
May 5th, 2012 at 3:48 pm
Raider O Says:
May 5th, 2012 at 3:38 pm
P Manning got released! You People are funny.
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Peyton was released because, coming off neck surgery, the Colts had to pay him a $28 million bonus, and Luck was there for the taking.
If Peyton hadn’t had neck surgery, the Colts would have finished 10-6 at worst, and he’d still be there.
If the Polians hadn’t stupidly agreed to that bonus, he’d still be there.
If Luck (or at least Griffin) hadn’t been there for the taking, Peyton would still be there.
Peyton’s leaving was a once-in-a-generation happenstance that cannot be used a parallel for SL in any way, shape or form.
May 5th, 2012 at 4:03 pm
Come on Raiders, make a move. The blog is lagging!
May 5th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
Are there rules for a MUP? Or, how much rating does it take for a nobody to become rated?
May 5th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
Guy Fieri @GuyFieri
it is hot at the 138th Derby. Hangin with my bro Marcel from the Raiders @celreece45. Gonna be a great race http://pic.twitter.com/2c9HAEzl
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Didn’t know that douche was a Raider fan.
May 5th, 2012 at 4:44 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
May 5th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
Guy Fieri @GuyFieri
it is hot at the 138th Derby. Hangin with my bro Marcel from the Raiders @celreece45. Gonna be a great race http://pic.twitter.com/2c9HAEzl
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Didn’t know that douche was a Raider fan.
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That douche is from No. Cal! LOL!
May 5th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
The Angels have their million dollar player riding the pine today.
May 5th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
Dickey Crappe
5′10 190 DB Austin Peay
Positives: Appears faster than his 4.90 40 time might seem to indicate. Fair to below average lateral movement. Made two interceptions in game against SE MO. St.in 2011.
Negatives: Slow 40 time, sub par tackler who seems to shy away from contact. Appears to be afraid of the game of football. The two interceptions he made were from balls thrown directly at him, due to the fact he was out of position. Character concerns due to his pending 2nd degree murder charges stemming from incident when he allegedly assaulted and killed an 82 yr. old woman with a tire iron after her motorized cart went out of control in a busy intersection and struck the vehicle he was driving; which was a stolen 92 Pontiac Grand Am.
He pled guilty to felony posession of a stolen vehicle and his trial is pending for the murder charge.
This incident was in addition to a prior conviction his sophmore year for robbing, at gunpoint, a “Kwik Trip” convenience store in Pulaski, Tn. as well as a conviction his junior year for posession with intent to deliver over 2 kilos of cocaine when another stolen vehicle he was driving was stopped for weaving into the opposite lane of interstate 75 in Georgia and striking the arresting officer in the head with a half empty bottle of vodka. In addition to the cocaine found during the search of his vehicle a loaded AK47 was found under the front seat.
Summary: With slow foot speed and what appears to be a predisposition and outright apprehension to engage in physical contact on the football field, small size and character issues, Crappe appears to be a longshot for the 2012 NFL draft.
May 5th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
I agree Lechler should be kept.. The same goes for SeaBass… the man is going to kick a 65 yarder and needs to do so as an Oakland Raider.
May 5th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
qodrn1 Says:
May 5th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
The Angels have their million dollar player riding the pine today.
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The Angels suck.
May 5th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
If you ever need some good sausages to grill up, and you see the Guy Fieri brand…get something else. His food sucks.
May 5th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
The Angels have their million dollar player riding the pine today.
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I guess $240 million just doesn’t get you what it used to.
Seriously, in 9 years, he will be 42 years old…….and $24 million dollars for salary.
LMAO………Angels just screwed themselves.
May 5th, 2012 at 5:45 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
May 5th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
If you ever need some good sausages to grill up, and you see the Guy Fieri brand…get something else. His food sucks.
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LMFAO!
May 5th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
The Puljols deal is the kind of signing that could leave the Angels in a hole for years to come.
Good for the Angels. They suck.
May 5th, 2012 at 6:51 pm
And when the sucking sets in fans will stay away from the park compounding the problem with that big ball park. Good for Angels, good for baseball!
Fk baseball, Fk B Beane and the A’s too.
May 5th, 2012 at 7:27 pm
1258.Raidernationdave Says:
May 5th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
The Puljols deal is the kind of signing that could leave the Angels in a hole for years to come.
Good for the Angels. They suck.
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Pujols will start hitting soon I think.
I don’t know what’s wrong with him.
May 5th, 2012 at 7:29 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
May 5th, 2012 at 7:27 pm
I don’t know what’s wrong with him.
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He signed a huge fricken contract that made “working” unnecessary. Typical of any baseball free agent.
May 5th, 2012 at 7:36 pm
He signed a huge fricken contract that made “working” unnecessary. Typical of any baseball free agent.
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You know I can’t think of ANY baseball FA who got a monster contract performing up to it.
How many times have we seen this with the Raiders too?
Some guys say different, but imo Seymour fits this bill too. 15 million??? I can think of at least 10 other dlinemen who are better than him right now. AT LEAST.
May 5th, 2012 at 7:38 pm
Seymour’s saving grace…with me at least, was when he blocked those fg’s against KC last yr.
That was nice. Made it FIVE ina row at Arrowhead for the SandB.
May 5th, 2012 at 7:41 pm
I’d better bail outta here before I look like the only loser who has nothing better to do than be on a sports blog on a Saturday night.
May 5th, 2012 at 7:44 pm
One last thing.
To the powers that be, there aren’t almost 13 hundred entries on this post because we were all huge Junior Seau fans.
Make something up if you have to.
May 5th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
And the A’s go to the bottom of the 11th….
May 5th, 2012 at 7:59 pm
MLB’s Gamecast on ESPN really needs some work. A player got called out for interference and the whole thing paniced and froze for two outs.
May 5th, 2012 at 8:01 pm
Rays just tried to bunt home a guy on third. Don’t quite know what I think about that.
May 5th, 2012 at 8:03 pm
On to the 12th.
May 5th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
Yay. The A’s hit a home run. Way to go Gomes.
May 5th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
My son cut off my Gamecast. Sigh.
May 5th, 2012 at 8:17 pm
Household:
Husband: Collasped
Son No. 2: Watching A’s and doing homework.
Son No. 1: Doing homework watching Top Gear.
Wife: Gamecast. Looking for ear plugs due to party across street.
May 5th, 2012 at 8:21 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
May 5th, 2012 at 7:44 pm
One last thing.
To the powers that be, there aren’t almost 13 hundred entries on this post because we were all huge Junior Seau fans.
Make something up if you have to.
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Exactly!
May 5th, 2012 at 8:21 pm
No! Not Balfour! Trade him to the Rangers!
A hit!
Oh no!
May 5th, 2012 at 8:24 pm
I mentioned i think like a week or two ago on this same thread that it would be nice to have an additional missive or two about the Raiders from Steve or Cork.
Must be nice.
May 5th, 2012 at 8:26 pm
Double Play! A’s Win in 12. Wow! Rays six game winning streak is no more!
May 5th, 2012 at 8:28 pm
Man that was tough to watch Sugar Shane got pummeled like that.
Please hang them up Shane.
May 5th, 2012 at 8:30 pm
Bumgarner for Cy Young!!!!
May 5th, 2012 at 8:38 pm
The A’s are hanging in there around .500 so far . we’re 4.5 games behind Texas anybody thinks we can win the Division?
May 5th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
The Kentucky Derby is the Super Bowl for horse players.
I left Bodemeister out of my exacta box, I thought the pace would do him in.
I’m going to be eating left-overs and crying in my cheap beer for a few days.
May 5th, 2012 at 9:30 pm
http://blogs.nfl.com/2012/05/05/cowboys-dc-rob-ryan-35-pounds-lighter-says-i-did-it-for-health-not-for-beauty/?module=HP11_content_stream
Dude, like, whens it due?
May 5th, 2012 at 9:34 pm
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d828e43e1/article/oakland-raiders-matt-leinart-still-wants-to-start-in-the-nfl?module=HP11_headline_stack
Not this year dude. You were brought in to be a back up. Get ova it.
May 5th, 2012 at 9:42 pm
Why are all my comments not appearing? Blog patrol must be out in full force tonight.
May 5th, 2012 at 9:48 pm
Heck with you guys. If you can’t post my comments after some of the tripe I’ve seen in here, especially the last week, then forget it. I’m outta here.
May 5th, 2012 at 9:51 pm
May 5th, 2012 at 10:05 pm
Money Mayweather = G.O.A.T.
May 5th, 2012 at 10:15 pm
Hey Burton Guster glad you posted a link or two help keep things lively. Place has been abandoned!
May 5th, 2012 at 10:18 pm
Brahs, I bet the Certified Platinum Posse that I could doggy-style this stripper for the entire Mayweather fight and I won!
By the 10th round my slim jim needed a little pump me up, so I pounded a Sierra Mist and ate a McRib
Suddenly Mr. McStiffy was back in the house
Y’all know what I’m talking bout
May 5th, 2012 at 10:20 pm
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May 5th, 2012 at 10:32 pm
Yeah, I hit 300.00 with I’ll Have a Another!
May 5th, 2012 at 10:42 pm
Anyone who thinks Shane Lechler is expendable needs to pull it out and see the light.
May 5th, 2012 at 10:44 pm
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d828dc4e1/article/afc-west-holes-to-fill-health-will-be-chiefs-biggest-concern?module=HP11_hot_topics
Whatever dude….
May 6th, 2012 at 1:53 am
Burton Guster Says:
May 5th, 2012 at 10:42 pm
Anyone who thinks Shane Lechler is expendable needs to pull it out and see the light.
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I dont think the new regime is big on high priced kickers.
May 6th, 2012 at 3:06 am
Reggies official band of the Raiders?
Stryper
May 6th, 2012 at 3:35 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5S9LWzYvLw
May 6th, 2012 at 3:38 am
Nnamdi21 Says:
May 6th, 2012 at 3:06 am
Reggies official band of the Raiders?
Stryper
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“To hell with the Devil”
what a smash hit by Stryper!!!
May 6th, 2012 at 3:39 am
Mcfadden20. Says:
May 5th, 2012 at 8:38 pm
The A’s are hanging in there around .500 so far . we’re 4.5 games behind Texas anybody thinks we can win the Division?
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Uh, no..and HELL NO.
but Cepedes may make an all-star bid..excited for this kid….
May 6th, 2012 at 3:55 am
Nevermind LMN.
There’s always next season.Hope your head’s not too bad.
May 6th, 2012 at 3:57 am
Might get that put on my grave stone.
“There’s always next season”.
May 6th, 2012 at 3:59 am
Just one more post – so I can be 1300th.
Enjoy the long weekend Nation!!
May 6th, 2012 at 5:01 am
Im fine, actually better than last night =)
May 6th, 2012 at 5:02 am
seems like mini-wolf is out of reach
May 6th, 2012 at 7:58 am
I wonder if “Burton Guster” is related to that “Granitobustiocor” dude who went around posting about how Reggie wasn’t going to fire anyone his first year on the job…
May 6th, 2012 at 10:02 am
125.RaiderRockstar Says:
May 2nd, 2012 at 5:57 am
raiderrockhead b!tch, FUGG YOU!! i saw your little dumbazz hue reference towards me when jfb mentioned my name last month. i havent made a comment about you in quite sometime so just be easy. you dont even want to get me started with your azz. askin people for their draft picks like some little snot nose girl askin for valentines in elementary school. soft azz beezie
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LOL @ Armond!!
surprised you’re still alive. glad to see you haven’t changed
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glad to see youre the same ol biatch youve always been.
May 6th, 2012 at 10:22 am
Burton Guster …..I like the Psych Reference
May 6th, 2012 at 10:50 am
4 days and nothing to report on????
May 6th, 2012 at 10:53 am
Aaron Curry @AaronCurry51
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Probably true.
May 6th, 2012 at 11:14 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
May 6th, 2012 at 10:53 am
Aaron Curry @AaronCurry51
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Probably true.
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Probably???
May 6th, 2012 at 11:16 am
Didn’t realize that the Raiders want Stupar to play inside or middle. Interesting.
May 6th, 2012 at 11:28 am
Raiders for life Says:
May 6th, 2012 at 11:16 am
Didn’t realize that the Raiders want Stupar to play inside or middle. Interesting.
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I wouldn’t be surprised to see Burris in the middle either. Kid is a sideline to sideline instinctual player with optimal size and mental ability. Looks like McLame might be on the way out.
May 6th, 2012 at 11:32 am
I do appreciate that we get these blog posts for free, but as a writer for the premiere blog covering a particular NFL team, wouldn’t you be more or less compelled to post something every day? There needn’t be any real news to report—there are always grades, predictions, Q&As, etc.
May 6th, 2012 at 11:38 am
kidseven Says:
May 6th, 2012 at 11:32 am
I do appreciate that we get these blog posts for free, but as a writer for the premiere blog covering a particular NFL team, wouldn’t you be more or less compelled to post something every day? There needn’t be any real news to report—there are always grades, predictions, Q&As, etc.
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LMFAO !!! this is Jerry and Steve you are talking about.
May 6th, 2012 at 11:39 am
check back late Monday when they have time to sober up after the weekend !!!
May 6th, 2012 at 11:52 am
I think Reggie is taking a big gamble if he plans on going into the season with Jones and Goodson as #2 guys. IMO we need a reliable, dependable back to replace Bush in case Mcfadden goes down. Goodson was buried on the depth chart for a reason and Jones hasn’t shown much of anything.
Also i can’t picture Palmer running bootlegs in Knapps O. I’m willing to bet Wiz has more speed and a bootleg would be as affective as Chaz running a reverse. Palmer is going to need a lot of time for a bootleg to develope.
May 6th, 2012 at 11:56 am
Deja Vu Says:
May 6th, 2012 at 11:52 am
I think Reggie is taking a big gamble if he plans on going into the season with Jones and Goodson as #2 guys. IMO we need a reliable, dependable back to replace Bush in case Mcfadden goes down. Goodson was buried on the depth chart for a reason and Jones hasn’t shown much of anything.
Also i can’t picture Palmer running bootlegs in Knapps O. I’m willing to bet Wiz has more speed and a bootleg would be as affective as Chaz running a reverse. Palmer is going to need a lot of time for a bootleg to develope.
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Palmer is just as athletic is not more athletic than Schaub is. Palmer will be fine, he just needs concentrate on not turning the ball over.
May 6th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
Deja vu Says:
May 6th, 2012 at 11:52 am
I think Reggie is taking a big gamble if he plans on going into the season with Jones and Goodson as #2 guys.
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Goodson was caught behind Jon Stewart and DeAngelo Williams. Not really his fault. When he got his chance he played well.
May 6th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
Palmer is just as athletic is not more athletic than Schaub is. Palmer will be fine, he just needs concentrate on not turning the ball over.
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Exactly.
May 6th, 2012 at 2:00 pm
Wut up Nation! Bunch of Beyotches!!!
May 6th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
1317.Seymour Bush Says:
May 6th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
Palmer is just as athletic is not more athletic than Schaub is. Palmer will be fine, he just needs concentrate on not turning the ball over.
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Exactly.
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That’s why Palmer is so excited about this new offense imo. He can do what he does best and he knows this offense is gonna cut down on his int’s too.
May 6th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
Aaron Curry @AaronCurry51
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It should affect his. He’s getting paid MILLIONS to do a JOB.
If I have a bad business day with my job i take it home…same with a good day. Of course it will stay with u a bit.
I don’t wanna hear “what a great day” after losing to Detroit like that.
May 6th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
Rainbow Bridge featuring Jimi Hendrix is a masterpiece when watched with the right frame of mind. I have been to the mountaintop, my brothers. And it is beautiful.
May 6th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
This is disappointing first morning coffee with no new news now evening buzz with no ne news.
May 6th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
LA KING HOMIES STAND UP N REPRESENT
Yo, that game was straight up WIZZLE FRESH. Time to finish the job we started in ‘92 whut whut
J Quick is my homeboy, he’ll be coming to the afterparty at my crib. Got a whole mess of Spearmint Rhino babes already partying in the hot tub and the bathtub is packed with Moet Chandon and Haagen Daz bars
Gonna smoke this blunt then slip into my XXL jock strap for her pleasure
Hope my nads are up for multiple jizzy-jizz eruptions or the Beeech Diggity is in major trouble
May 6th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
May 6th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
LA KING HOMIES STAND UP N REPRESENT
Yo, that game was straight up WIZZLE FRESH. Time to finish the job we started in ‘92 whut whut
J Quick is my homeboy, he’ll be coming to the afterparty at my crib. Got a whole mess of Spearmint Rhino babes already partying in the hot tub and the bathtub is packed with Moet Chandon and Haagen Daz bars
Gonna smoke this blunt then slip into my XXL jock strap for her pleasure
Hope my nads are up for multiple jizzy-jizz eruptions or the Beeech Diggity is in major trouble
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Your rap is worse
then a freakin curse
put your head
back in reverse
wizzle fresh
back in the fetal depth
rhyme so inept
i cant accept
but regret
the day of lyrical dis
when you step to this.
yeah, fool…B-tron, biotch
May 6th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
Kings are definitely the shiz nizzie! Straight up makin’ the Canucks and Blues look like a bunch of beyotches!
May 6th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
SamBorg the Uber Goober
Love when you dare step into my lyrical blog octagon for yet another lesson in getting roasted hip hop style
Hope you’re wearing a triple ply diaper and not drinking a Super Big Gulp cause you’re gonna straight wet yourself
Yo yo yo, holla back Run DMC
Smacking SamBorg is easy money
Dropping hip hop bombs on you is simple, whut whut
So take a good lick of deez nutz (aka my nads)
Yo Sam, now how you feelin’?
Getting dissed so hard you must be illin’
Now dry those tears as I finish my song
Cause I’ve also got a superior ding dong*
*i’m referring to both mass and length
Better check your grill, cause you just got BBQd
AH YEAH DOWNTOWN JULIE BROWN REPRESENT
May 6th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
“*i’m referring to both mass….”
I think the medically acceptable term is girth.
May 6th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
Wut up Beyotches!
May 6th, 2012 at 4:33 pm
No news is good news…..I think.
May 6th, 2012 at 4:40 pm
Damn no news, but you can best believe that Cork is working 24 hours doing investigative journalism. He’s trakcing down leads, he’s going deep into the background of our current players, he’s pouring over scouting reports to evalute the teams strengths and weaknesses, he’s consulting with agents and attorneys to determine who our new undrafted free agents are and how much their salaries will affect the salary cap, he’s consulting with medical experts to find out the nature of Darren McFadden and McClain’s injuries and the hopes of recovery, he’s looking at all of the passoble scenarios of where the Raiders might play in the years to come, what kind of stadium improvements and or relcation deals the team can get, he’s busy looking into the competition at camp and which starting spots pose the most significant stories…
He’s, he’s he’s….probably hungover somewhere…
The next post is gonna be good, yup just you wait…
May 6th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
I think Cork took the week off to attend the Kentucky Derby and drink Mint Julips. More power to him.
May 6th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
I must add that Mint Julips are a disgusting waste of good bourbon.
May 6th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
What’s up out there. I just ran into Tyvon Branch and Michael Huff at Jamba Juice in Alameda.
May 6th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
Twocents Says:
May 6th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
I must add that Mint Julips are a disgusting waste of good bourbon.
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Cough syrup tasting bourbon…LOL!
May 6th, 2012 at 5:37 pm
Alameda Lee Says:
May 6th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
What’s up out there. I just ran into Tyvon Branch and Michael Huff at Jamba Juice in Alameda.
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I hope the right receiver got their order. If Huffy was there you know he didn’t provide much of a disruption!
May 6th, 2012 at 5:42 pm
Cork and Jerry aren’t dead, are they?
May 6th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
They’ve probably gone on a hunger strike until Jon Kingdon is re-hired or something…
May 6th, 2012 at 6:02 pm
Roflmfao RaiderDuck it could be true
May 6th, 2012 at 6:09 pm
Can’t wait to get off work yo! Got some good sh*t at the house that’s just waitin for me!
May 6th, 2012 at 6:49 pm
Could be that The Contra Costa Times is declaring bankruptcy. No surprise there.
May 6th, 2012 at 6:55 pm
When the world is going to hell, you have to stop and ask yourself, what do I really know and what can I really do to survive.
Hard times ahead.
May 6th, 2012 at 7:07 pm
About what might happen to football–from economist Tyler Cowen. It really is something that’s possible in spite of the sport’s popularity.
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7559458/cte-concussion-crisis-economic-look-end-football
May 6th, 2012 at 7:15 pm
Criner is going to be big…
May 6th, 2012 at 7:23 pm
the next new post will be “live chat Tuesday at noon”, which is actually 2 for me.
How hard is it to slap something together?
May 6th, 2012 at 7:49 pm
raiderjhawk Says:
May 6th, 2012 at 7:23 pm
How hard is it to slap something together?
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Evidently extremely difficult
May 6th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
Do you meatheads realize there is nothing to report ?
Rhetorical question…
May 6th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
There’s ALWAYS something to report.
They could run the Leinart interview if they wanted to which is more Raiders related than a story about Junior Seau being a cut-up at the Coliseum.
I’m not coming here anymore looking for the latest news on the Raiders as there are better places for that. Maybe they don’t care if we rely on them for the latest news. Maybe they don’t even want the responsibility or pressure of being a main source.
This place is what it is; a place to talk Raider football, NOT where a fan looking for the latest breaking Raider news should rely.
May 6th, 2012 at 8:21 pm
@1320….DJ Johnny
I agree 100%
May 6th, 2012 at 8:27 pm
MistaBrown Says:
May 6th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
Do you meatheads realize there is nothing to report ?
Rhetorical question…
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Reggie pinched a huge loaf this morning is something to report.
May 6th, 2012 at 8:28 pm
1348,
Thanks. I really wish it were that easy to walk away from watching that Detroit game and just say “Aww shucks. Would’ve been nice to get that one, but heck they tried. We’ll get ‘em next time and if we don’t…who cares”.
I know that I care much more than alot of the players whether Raiders lose or not.
I’m just so happy for Curry that he wasn’t bothered at all about the Detroit or SD games.
That’s awesome.
May 6th, 2012 at 8:49 pm
Reggie pinched a huge, nasty-azz turd this morning – film at 11:00!
May 6th, 2012 at 8:50 pm
So…did anybody else see the Avengers this weekend?
May 6th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
1352.papertiger418 Says:
May 6th, 2012 at 8:50 pm
So…did anybody else see the Avengers this weekend?
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No, but I laid on the couch and looked on as my wife watched “Daddy don’t let me dance with danger” on Lifetime.
May 6th, 2012 at 8:57 pm
Papertiger,
Was it any good?
May 6th, 2012 at 8:57 pm
1342, Yea I read that earlier, if lib writers keep stirring it up, could be a short term problem. Anyone see the fight last night? Both fighters took blows to the Head, cant remember a boxer taking his life, can You. NHL players, taking blows, cant recall a player taking his life, can You? Next thing will be, a Baseball pitcher who throws 95, nope, 75 is MAX,a Player may be hurt. Life is a risk,and they get paid well.IMO,take youre concern to the wounded in the military, they could use the support $$$$$
May 6th, 2012 at 9:04 pm
Oh come on DJ- you know you were glued to that lifetime movie! Go ahead admit it!
May 6th, 2012 at 9:04 pm
Yeah, it was awesome. Exactly what you want out of a superhero movie. They did a great job with the Hulk (allowing him to smash a bunch of different things), and Scarlett Johannsen looked amazing as the Black Widow, and plenty of well-staged action. The way one reviewer put it, Avengers is like Transformers with a heart, a brain, and a working sense of humor.
@DJ
My girlfriend was watching “Mother, may I please sleep with danger?”, starring Tori Spelling, on Lifetime the other day. Do you think it’s like a sequel or something to “Daddy don’t let me dance with danger?”
May 6th, 2012 at 9:04 pm
Curious how others would rank their favorite “lay on the couch on a Sunday afternoon” movies.
-The Firm
-SCYFY “gore” movies
-John Hughes flicks
-Back to the Future (1,2 and 3)
…not ranked becuz of quality but more cuz they aren’t challenging and allow me to muse about other things at the same time i’m watching them.
May 6th, 2012 at 9:06 pm
NEW!~ 05-06-12: REGGIEBALL NO SAFE BET…
There are some who rejoice that the evil Al Davis has finally released his iron grip over all things Raider With that freedom comes change but change alone doesn’t guarantee success.
http://www.raidernationstation.com/raider_huddle
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I think alot of Raider fans realize it could / should be a building project, maybe a 3-5 yr plan even.
Others will blame it all on Davis mortgaging the future but its really just a new Owner, GM, HC and DC implementing a new system and dragging the Raiders into the computer age.
May 6th, 2012 at 9:07 pm
“Looking on while my wife watched…..” Ha ha yeah right. You could probably give a brief review of the movie!!
May 6th, 2012 at 9:08 pm
I would put Tombstone on the top of my “lay on the couch” list of movies. Or It’s Always Sunny in Philly for my list of shows.
May 6th, 2012 at 9:11 pm
Yo, fresh off the Kings punching their ticket to the conference finals, my lyrical blog destruction of SamBorg and the Lake Show rapping up another sweet win, time for the Beeech Dawg to get serious and work on some jokes
Check this one about the Avengers, might use it tomorrow when I practice my routine on my parents -
Hey mom, have you heard about that dorky superhero movie?
No son, praytell, what is the title?
The Avengnerds. Get it?
I can already see the Improv rolling after that one and a bunch of chicks buying me cold margaritas
May 6th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
Might get that put on my grave stone.
“There’s always next season”.———————————-I’ve already had it engraved. But I’m not dying anytime soon, so go ahead and use it!
May 6th, 2012 at 9:13 pm
Probably could give a brief review
May 6th, 2012 at 9:14 pm
Seriously, we need a new post. It doesn’t have to be anything groundbreaking, it could even be a review of the draft picks of other AFC West teams and how it affects the Raiders, or a quick evaluation of some area of need by the team, like LBs. Just something besides this macabre Seau headline.
Still, Jerry and Steve have been doing a great job lately. I’ll forgive them for taking the weekend off.
May 6th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
neilb Says:
May 6th, 2012 at 3:57 am
Might get that put on my grave stone.
“There’s always next season”.
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May 6th, 2012 at 9:17 pm
Hey Beech, how about Game of Thrones? That’s cool right?
May 6th, 2012 at 9:28 pm
1360.arkraider Says:
May 6th, 2012 at 9:07 pm
“Looking on while my wife watched…..” Ha ha yeah right. You could probably give a brief review of the movie!!
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Yeah. That girl should’ve never got involved with that guy…I could tell he was bad news from the start.
May 6th, 2012 at 9:30 pm
Game of Thrones is pretty dope, I usually get a decent semi during the whorehouse scenes
I’d let that dragon queen tramp slob my nob but only after a medieval sponge bath
Chick is normally 105lbs but 110lbs with all that desert dust in her hoo-ha
May 6th, 2012 at 9:32 pm
1361.papertiger418 Says:
May 6th, 2012 at 9:08 pm
I would put Tombstone on the top of my “lay on the couch” list of movies. Or It’s Always Sunny in Philly for my list of shows.
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Tombstone is a good choice for me too.
May 6th, 2012 at 9:35 pm
hendu Says:
May 6th, 2012 at 8:57 pm
1342, Yea I read that earlier, if lib writers keep stirring it up, could be a short term problem. Anyone see the fight last night? Both fighters took blows to the Head, cant remember a boxer taking his life, can You. NHL players, taking blows, cant recall a player taking his life, can You? Next thing will be, a Baseball pitcher who throws 95, nope, 75 is MAX,a Player may be hurt. Life is a risk,and they get paid well.IMO,take youre concern to the wounded in the military, they could use the support $$$$$
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The problem with the military, teachers, cops and firedudes is nobody pays to watch them work.
May 6th, 2012 at 9:37 pm
1357.papertiger418 Says:
May 6th, 2012 at 9:04 pm
Yeah, it was awesome. Exactly what you want out of a superhero movie. They did a great job with the Hulk (allowing him to smash a bunch of different things), and Scarlett Johannsen looked amazing as the Black Widow, and plenty of well-staged action. The way one reviewer put it, Avengers is like Transformers with a heart, a brain, and a working sense of humor.
@DJ
My girlfriend was watching “Mother, may I please sleep with danger?”, starring Tori Spelling, on Lifetime the other day. Do you think it’s like a sequel or something to “Daddy don’t let me dance with danger?”
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That’s it. Got the title mixed up. Ha.
May 6th, 2012 at 9:37 pm
Wow. Sam kicked biachi’s ass in the rap off. RIP biachi
May 6th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
May 6th, 2012 at 9:04 pm
Curious how others would rank their favorite “lay on the couch on a Sunday afternoon” movies.
-The Firm
-SCYFY “gore” movies
-John Hughes flicks
-Back to the Future (1,2 and 3)
…not ranked becuz of quality but more cuz they aren’t challenging and allow me to muse about other things at the same time i’m watching them.
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How ’bout “A Few Good Men”? I swear every time I see Demi Moore in that movie I sport wood for two weeks!
May 6th, 2012 at 9:40 pm
1369.The Beeech Dawg Says:
May 6th, 2012 at 9:30 pm
Game of Thrones is pretty dope, I usually get a decent semi during the whorehouse scenes
I’d let that dragon queen tramp slob my nob but only after a medieval sponge bath
Chick is normally 105lbs but 110lbs with all that desert dust in her hoo-ha
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It’d be great if you could find a spot in 2Kewl4Skewl for that little dwarf from Game of Thrones. The guy is dope.
May 6th, 2012 at 9:42 pm
RaiderDave,
I love when Tom Cruise tells off Col. Jessup at the end. Classic.
May 6th, 2012 at 9:43 pm
Bust, you’ve ran away in tears from every blog rap battle challenge I’ve ever graciously thrown your way
Actually you pull a KrappyRat, which is instantly disappear, then reappear meekly a few hours later on the blog hoping everyone forgot
The Certified Platinum Posse just revoked your voting card, sorry sister
May 6th, 2012 at 9:49 pm
The forty ounce is already on the curb for you biach.
May 6th, 2012 at 9:52 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
May 6th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
SamBorg the Uber Goober
Love when you dare step into my lyrical blog octagon for yet another lesson in getting roasted hip hop style
Hope you’re wearing a triple ply diaper and not drinking a Super Big Gulp cause you’re gonna straight wet yourself
Yo yo yo, holla back Run DMC
Smacking SamBorg is easy money
Dropping hip hop bombs on you is simple, whut whut
So take a good lick of deez nutz (aka my nads)
Yo Sam, now how you feelin’?
Getting dissed so hard you must be illin’
Now dry those tears as I finish my song
Cause I’ve also got a superior ding dong*
*i’m referring to both mass and length
Better check your grill, cause you just got BBQd
AH YEAH DOWNTOWN JULIE BROWN REPRESENT
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aw you done did it, now…
This dude is back every week….
OK you wanna talk words and verse, your face is distracting
so ugly it bugs me
i heard that mess so sweep it under the rug please
so trust me, you’re only taking matters from bad to worse
the only solution is turn around in reverse
(ohhhhhhhhhhh…..crowd gasps)
May 6th, 2012 at 9:54 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
May 6th, 2012 at 9:11 pm
Yo, fresh off the Kings punching their ticket to the conference finals, my lyrical blog destruction of SamBorg and the Lake Show rapping up another sweet win, time for the Beeech Dawg to get serious and work on some jokes
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Beech if you destroy me in a dream, you better wake me up and apologize….
May 6th, 2012 at 9:54 pm
DJ, that little dude is a favorite here at the Penthouse, he has the best roasts
re 2K4S, I’ve been trying to employ KrappyRat to wander on stage in the middle of our performance like an old homeless weirdo and spray him into the 40th row with smelly green slime
the midget is the man to hold the slime hose
Of course first we’d need his credit card # to buy more weed and lap dances
May 6th, 2012 at 9:55 pm
I wonder how much Reggie really had to do with building that GB team?
They were just talking about John Kuhn on NFLN’s “Top 100 of 2011″ and what a stud he is. He was an UDFA.
Wonder if Reggie was the one who helped bring him in.
May 6th, 2012 at 9:55 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
May 6th, 2012 at 9:42 pm
RaiderDave,
I love when Tom Cruise tells off Col. Jessup at the end. Classic.
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I love that scene where Demi and me embrace in a wild, passionate kiss, and then I rip off her blouse and start munchin’ on here huge, juicy……
Sorry I was dreamin’
May 6th, 2012 at 10:00 pm
Beech,
I’d bet that little oompa loompa has alot of coin.
He could say a little rap himself:
“If it please your grace I will shoot gooey slime in this homeless weirdo’s face”.
I love it.
May 6th, 2012 at 10:07 pm
I love that scene where Demi and me embrace in a wild, passionate kiss, and then I rip off her blouse and start munchin’ on here huge, juicy……
Sorry I was dreamin’
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Ha. Didn’t she have short hair in that one or am I thinking of something else?
May 6th, 2012 at 10:09 pm
Samborg the Uber Goober
You’ve been licking your wounds all afternoon, spent the whole night working on a comeback rap, and that’s what you return with?
Obviously you’ve never listened to Kool Moe Dee.
Yo, check it as I slam dunk you with a sweet cross over rhyme into a fade away diss
Mo wizzle to the tizzle, I gots to represent
For his wack rap, SamBorg the Uber Goober must repent
You’d have more luck on the corner selling ties
Or throwing down salt on Jack N the Box curly fries
Sorry little Nerd, but I gotta smoke my stash
If I dawg you any more you’ll get itchy diaper rash
Like a funny little puppet, I can always make you dance
Or dip your hand in warm water until you pee pee in your pants
YO BLOWIN’ SMOKE OFF MY SMOKIN’ GUN
May 6th, 2012 at 10:10 pm
Speaking of Oompa Loompas I used to have it bad for the chick who played Veruca Salt in the Willy Wonka movie.
I was a weird kid. Nothings changed there.
May 6th, 2012 at 10:15 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
May 6th, 2012 at 10:00 pm
Beech,
I’d bet that little oompa loompa has alot of coin.
He could say a little rap himself:
“If it please your grace I will shoot gooey slime in this homeless weirdo’s face”.
I love it.
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Yes, I’ll have the Certified Platinum Posse call him tomorrow with a tempting offer
The real trick will be snapping KrappyRat’s hip back into place after his hilarious slime blast in time for the next gig
May 6th, 2012 at 10:20 pm
Rap Quiz, Beech: who wrote these lyrics?
Stimulant and sedative
Original repetitive
Violently competitive
A school unaccredited
May 6th, 2012 at 10:27 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
May 6th, 2012 at 10:07 pm
Ha. Didn’t she have short hair in that one or am I thinking of something else?
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My ex had short hair at the time like Demi – I think it was the style at the time – she was f’ricken hot. She always joked that I liked that ’cause it made her look like a boy!! Hey, whatever works!
May 6th, 2012 at 10:32 pm
Raiderdave,
LMAO.
I have to say though that Demi does NOT look like a boy.
May 6th, 2012 at 10:33 pm
Short hair can look great on women, but they have to have the right look for it. Even attractive women can’t pull it off if they don’t have the right look, ie: Nicole Kidman in the horror film “Birth”
May 6th, 2012 at 10:33 pm
Yo El Tigre, even though all the members of 2 Kewl 4 Skool know that’s MD, any blog Goob can google those lyrics and look edumacated
Brah, you seem like you got some swag, get an application from DJ John for membership in the 2K4S Super Cool Fan Club
All we need is your credit card # and you’ll receive your Kewl Kidz Klub Kard in the mail in 18 – 36 weeks
May 6th, 2012 at 10:36 pm
Your invitation is greatly appreciated Beech, but I stopped joining fanclubs after NKOTB broke up
May 6th, 2012 at 10:43 pm
papertiger418 Says:
May 6th, 2012 at 10:36 pm
Your invitation is greatly appreciated Beech, but I stopped joining fanclubs after NKOTB broke up
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Well, I think a little jam called D.O.A.L. (Duece of a Lifetime) just might change your mind
Imagine this while we’re all doing scissor kicks and the bass player is doing a legendary solo:
We’re having the duece of a lifetime
We’re dreaming the impossible dream
We’re pushing the duece of a lifetime
This is exactly what our bowels need
May 6th, 2012 at 10:52 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
May 6th, 2012 at 10:32 pm
Raiderdave,
LMAO.
I have to say though that Demi does NOT look like a boy.
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I’d lay face down in her dirty bathwater all damn day!!
May 6th, 2012 at 10:54 pm
papertiger418 Says:
May 6th, 2012 at 10:33 pm
Short hair can look great on women, but they have to have the right look for it. Even attractive women can’t pull it off if they don’t have the right look, ie: Nicole Kidman in the horror film “Birth”
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NK would be good for a night or two but after a while a man that eats steak every night looks for a hamburger now and then.
May 6th, 2012 at 11:02 pm
need…new…post…can’t…go…on
May 7th, 2012 at 12:19 am
can we get a new thread please..
May 7th, 2012 at 1:50 am
Though sad, Junior will be missed. Now for spuds. This team will be in last place in the division with Palmer as the Q?B of the team! So let’s be quite frank. Spuds let this organization down from the start. Like Hue, Spuds will be a goner after this season of failed offers. For Mark, how can this be? Look at the moves after spuds showed up. JC, Rock, and other players left a sinking ship quickly to other teams. For my beloved Raiders to make a 180 to the bottom of the AC west will be there for a long time!
May 7th, 2012 at 4:49 am
All right all you Dodger fans, reality is about to hit you in the face the next few days.
May 7th, 2012 at 5:20 am
Damn!!
Just missed being the 1400th post!
May 7th, 2012 at 5:42 am
Once again, seems like the Semi’s are going to have to hold the water on here.
May 7th, 2012 at 5:44 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
JFB…why you say that? Is teh Giants playing the Doders for the first time this year?
May 7th, 2012 at 5:50 am
Anyways…seriously? No new post? You mean…NOTHING happened over the weekend?
Heck, post about The Avengers being a bad a** movie…anything will do…
May 7th, 2012 at 5:50 am
Did I actually just read that someone things Reggie will be fired at the end of the year? LOL… this team could go 0-16 and Reggie would not get fired after 1 year.
May 7th, 2012 at 5:52 am
*thinks too…
May 7th, 2012 at 5:54 am
glad to see youre the same ol biatch youve always been.
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@ Armond
kick rocks, clown
May 7th, 2012 at 5:55 am
Did I actually just read that someone thinks Reggie will be fired at the end of the year?
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@bcz
somebody must be sleep-typing!
May 7th, 2012 at 5:58 am
How about using this as a new thread?
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/06/ravens-meet-with-jacoby-jones/
receiver & return man Jacoby Jones knows Knapp, Pollack & Leinart well from thier time together in Houston.
Jacoby Ford is a oft-injured smurf who runs bad routes and has too many drops & fumbles for my liking..
no more scholarships!!
May 7th, 2012 at 6:00 am
5% chance Lady Tomlinson lands in Oakland this season
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/06/tomlinson-says-hes-95-percent-retired/
May 7th, 2012 at 6:01 am
Patriots signed ex-Colt RB Joseph Addai ??
May 7th, 2012 at 6:02 am
Is teh Giants playing the Doders for the first time this year?
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Yessir!!!!
May 7th, 2012 at 6:04 am
anybody think Matt Simms will beat out Greg McElroy and G.J. Kinne to capture the #3 QB spot on the Jets roster??
sorry – slow news day!
May 7th, 2012 at 6:09 am
1413.Just Fire Baby Says:
May 7th, 2012 at 6:02 am
Is teh Giants playing the Doders for the first time this year?
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Yessir!!!!
You know, it could be a reality check on both sides…just saying…
Don’t really follow baseball untill September…
May 7th, 2012 at 6:12 am
doesn’t sound like this kid will be joining Oakland any time soon..
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/06/eliot-wolf-rising-in-packers-front-office/
Now the question becomes, did Ron Wolf turn Mark Davis on to Reggie McKenzie in Oakland so that his son could get promoted to Reggie’s old job in Green Bay ??
May 7th, 2012 at 6:14 am
I think you may be right, Rockstar! That was probably the only way Eliot Wolf gets promoted, right? And possibly to succeed Ted Thompson?
May 7th, 2012 at 6:15 am
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/05/cox-thomas-facing-civil-suit-over-alleged-rape/
Broncos receiver Demaryius Thomas in trouble??
May 7th, 2012 at 6:15 am
Now the question becomes, did Ron Wolf turn Mark Davis on to Reggie McKenzie in Oakland so that his son could get promoted to Reggie’s old job in Green Bay ??
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I believe that was the dream scenario for all parties involved.
May 7th, 2012 at 6:23 am
OK,ON TO JFK & 911 SINCE WE R TALKING CONSPIRACY’S..
May 7th, 2012 at 6:26 am
@ Dirt Lot
what about Jimmy Hoffa?
May 7th, 2012 at 6:29 am
JIMMY HOFFA LIVES ACROSS THE STREET FROM ME..
May 7th, 2012 at 6:35 am
Lakers & Heat actually dropped a game over the weekend (3-1) ??
Spurs should be able to wrap things up tonight and sweep like OKC did
May 7th, 2012 at 6:36 am
1422.DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
May 7th, 2012 at 6:29 am
JIMMY HOFFA LIVES ACROSS THE STREET FROM ME..
LOL, Pat Morita lived across me also…and he had a fishing boat!
May 7th, 2012 at 6:38 am
RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO ELVIS !!
May 7th, 2012 at 6:39 am
The Knicks actually beat the Heat? Were they resting LeBron, Wade and Bosh? I know Bosh had a baby, but played that game right?
May 7th, 2012 at 6:41 am
Wade went 9/18
James went 9/21
and the Heat only lost by 2 ??
bwahahahahahaha!!
the Knicks are hot garbage.
just an off-night for the boys in black
May 7th, 2012 at 6:47 am
when does Artest come back?
Game 6 or 7 versus Denver ???
May 7th, 2012 at 6:48 am
Good Morning A.M. Crew!
May 7th, 2012 at 6:51 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
May 7th, 2012 at 6:47 am
when does Artest come back?
Game 6 or 7 versus Denver ???
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Naw man…it aint going to 6 or 7! He’ll be back the 2nd game vs the Thunder to elbow that biatch one more time!
May 7th, 2012 at 6:54 am
Jacoby Ford is a oft-injured smurf who runs bad routes and has too many drops & fumbles for my liking..
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And you want Jacoby Jones? LOL… (he has 8 fumbles as a returner, and 2 as a receiver, very similar to Ford)
Jacoby Ford has too many drops for your liking? Yet you call DHB “King Darius”.
Ford has 6 fumbles in his career, 4 of which came on KoR, I guess we should have him stop doing that and just be a receiver. (little dudes fumble when the get smeared)
Not for nothing, but there is a reason the receiver needy Texans let Jones walk. He is definitely not better than Ford. If anything they are almost clones of each other.
May 7th, 2012 at 7:00 am
1430.r8eray Says:
May 7th, 2012 at 6:51 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
May 7th, 2012 at 6:47 am
when does Artest come back?
Game 6 or 7 versus Denver ???
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Naw man…it aint going to 6 or 7! He’ll be back the 2nd game vs the Thunder to elbow that biatch one more time!
Yup, because LA SHOULD close out Denver at home in 5…then it will be game 2 versus OKC in Oklahoma where he can come back. get a steal there coming back home COULD spell trouble for the rest of the league! But, Bynum has to keep playing and no more blow ups like in game 3 (even though Sessions made the put back…)
May 7th, 2012 at 7:01 am
However, since you’re asking…IF it did go to 7, that is when Artest will be back!
May 7th, 2012 at 7:10 am
How about a new post? You could title it..”here’s a new post.”
May 7th, 2012 at 7:13 am
lol.. the new post will say “Live Chat on Tuesday” !!
May 7th, 2012 at 7:14 am
1435.R8ER MIKE Says:
May 7th, 2012 at 7:13 am
lol.. the new post will say “Live Chat on Tuesday” !!
LOL, that is probably true, Mike!
May 7th, 2012 at 7:20 am
And you want Jacoby Jones? LOL… (he has 8 fumbles as a returner, and 2 as a receiver, very similar to Ford)
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@bcz
I’ll admit, I don’t know much about JJones. I just know that he’s available and he’s familiar with our offense (like Leinart). He’s probably cheap & young enough. WR corps is far from being set or we would not have drafted Criner imo. Even better that this kid has value on returns. Outside of Higgins, Ford & Justin Miller – our return game has been non-existant for 10 years!
just something to talk about man. I’m not going to write you a 5-page essay of why this dude should be a Raider
May 7th, 2012 at 7:23 am
Im hearing alot of complaints about how boring the nba playoffs have been, but the games ive watched have been pretty close with some great player preformances..
May 7th, 2012 at 7:27 am
I think the only real boring one so far is the Indiana/Orlando one…
May 7th, 2012 at 7:32 am
Marks Hair Says:
May 7th, 2012 at 7:10 am
How about a new post? You could title it..”here’s a new post.”
R8ER MIKE Says:
May 7th, 2012 at 7:13 am
lol.. the new post will say “Live Chat on Tuesday” !!
Hwnrdr Says:
May 7th, 2012 at 7:14 am
1435.R8ER MIKE Says:
May 7th, 2012 at 7:13 am
lol.. the new post will say “Live Chat on Tuesday” !!
LOL, that is probably true, Mike!
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I got a c-note on that!
I appreciate the time and effort it takes to write a new post, I’m sure Jerry and Steve are working hard at it!
May 7th, 2012 at 7:36 am
From Peter King’s “10 Things I Think I Think:”
5. I think I like several of new Oakland GM Reggie McKenzie’s signings of free agent marginalia. Ron Bartell may resuscitate a flagging career and could still be an effective cornerback, for instance. But the signing that may pay off most handsomely is bringing in Matt Leinart. Ask the Texans: He was just getting it, just turning around his disappointing career, when he got hurt in midseason last fall. I can tell you coach Gary Kubiak thought the Texans would be able to be offensively explosive after losing Matt Schaub, because he knew what he had in Leinart. Now Leinart will back up Carson Palmer, and though Leinart shouldn’t count on playing unless Palmer gets hurt, I count Leinart as one of the best insurance policies in the NFL. Some day he’ll get another chance, and I think he’ll be ready.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/peter_king/05/06/mmqb/index.html#ixzz1uC8I5tJw
May 7th, 2012 at 7:38 am
Jacoby Ford has too many drops for your liking? Yet you call DHB “King Darius”.
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@bcz
Ford has drops & fumbles in crucial moments of the game. bad routes, too. It’s like he’s in his own head.
Against SF in ‘10. JCamp hits Ford on a crossing route in the 4th qtr. We were down 8 points. It’s 3rd down. Pass hits Ford on the numbers. bounces off his chest. punt
Against J-Ville in ‘10. game was tied in the closing minutes. Ford fumbles the return and they get it at our 20 yard line
Last year in WK17, Palmer throws to Ford (WTF was he thinking?) rewatch the play… with 4 minutes left in the game. Cason gets the pick. thats the ballgame.
now show me some examples of DHB doing the same thing during key moments (4th qtr, 3rd down, etc)
May 7th, 2012 at 7:42 am
the signing that may pay off most handsomely is bringing in Matt Leinart. Ask the Texans: He was just getting it, just turning around his disappointing career, when he got hurt in midseason last fall. I can tell you coach Gary Kubiak thought the Texans would be able to be offensively explosive after losing Matt Schaub, because he knew what he had in Leinart. Now Leinart will back up Carson Palmer, and though Leinart shouldn’t count on playing unless Palmer gets hurt, I count Leinart as one of the best insurance policies in the NFL. Some day he’ll get another chance, and I think he’ll be ready.
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@ Peter King
then why didn’t they re-sign him?
why didn’t any other NFL teams even bring him in for a visit?
May 7th, 2012 at 7:44 am
Steve & Jerry are still mourning the loss of Junior Seau
you fellas are some cold hearted bastards!!
We’ll get a new post when camp opens later this week
May 7th, 2012 at 7:48 am
check this play out
http://sportshl.com/football/Palmer_intercepted/1118368
May 7th, 2012 at 7:53 am
check out this video: Terrelle Pryor is a freakin’ beast!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLb3HwGHwlg
May 7th, 2012 at 7:55 am
Why did you make me watch that play again Rockstar?
May 7th, 2012 at 7:55 am
I dont need anything new to read. I just want anew post so my phone will work faster.
May 7th, 2012 at 7:55 am
I’ll admit, I don’t know much about JJones. I just know that he’s available and he’s familiar with our offense (like Leinart). He’s probably cheap & young enough. WR corps is far from being set or we would not have drafted Criner imo. Even better that this kid has value on returns. Outside of Higgins, Ford & Justin Miller – our return game has been non-existant for 10 years!
just something to talk about man. I’m not going to write you a 5-page essay of why this dude should be a Raider
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I agree that we still need some help on WR, I was just pointing out the facts about Jacoby Jones. Trust me when I tell you, he is at BEST a clone of Ford (no where near as explosive in the return game, or rushing the ball)
DHB doesn’t have drops at crucial times? How about the fumble late in the Detroit game last year. Everyone points to the defensive let downs that game, myself included, but if DHB doesn’t cough that ball up we ice that game right there and the defense doesn’t matter… and lets be honest, before last season’s improvements DHB would never even be looked at in a crucial moment. Ford is still young, has a ton of upside (yeah he was oft injured last year, but who the heck wasn’t… he didn’t miss any games his rookie year). You were adamant that we give DHB at least 3 years to develop… shouldn’t Ford at least be given the same?
May 7th, 2012 at 7:56 am
Matt Leinart??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5prn6rBHi0
May 7th, 2012 at 7:58 am
Cubs win!
LA Kings win!
Lakers win!
Yesterday was a good day.
May 7th, 2012 at 8:00 am
Peter King needs to read this:
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/13887396/arizona-bust-leinart-may-be-pretty-similar-to-kournikova
May 7th, 2012 at 8:02 am
I e-mailed Jon Becker, I am sure he will have a new post up soon.
May 7th, 2012 at 8:05 am
–”Raiders signed franchise player SS Tyvon Branch to a one-year, $6.22 million contract. According to NFL.com’s Jason La Canfora, Branch is still “very much seeking a long-term deal,” so it’s unclear if he’ll report for the Raiders’ mandatory June minicamp. The Raiders are still up against the salary cap, and would benefit from getting Branch signed to a long-term pact and lowering his 2012 cap number. The sides have until July 16 to reach a long-term agreement”–
May 7th, 2012 at 8:05 am
DHB doesn’t have drops at crucial times? How about the fumble late in the Detroit game last year. Everyone points to the defensive let downs that game, myself included, but if DHB doesn’t cough that ball up we ice that game right there and the defense doesn’t matter… and lets be honest, before last season’s improvements DHB would never even be looked at in a crucial moment.
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@bcz
you mean the game where Heyward-Bey had 8 catches for 155 yards and a TD?? that fumble happened in the 3rd qtr (nice try) I asked for 3rd down or 4th qtr
how about the pass off Chaz Schilens’ hands with 2:32 left ??
May 7th, 2012 at 8:06 am
You never know….Jon, Steve and Jerry might be off on one of those company imposed unpaid furloughs…..
May 7th, 2012 at 8:08 am
glad to see Tyvon signed before the mandatory camp this week. I rescind that comment about him being a greedy douche
May 7th, 2012 at 8:08 am
Gasol needs to get agressive, he’s not drawing a double and hes normally bigger than his defender.
May 7th, 2012 at 8:11 am
new post
May 7th, 2012 at 8:12 am
Branch seems like a good egg. I think we’re becoming a high caracter team..
May 7th, 2012 at 8:13 am
If he wants a longer contract, then Branch needs to show up and prove to the new coaching staff that he is more than just the guy who compiles lots of tackle numbers 10 yards down field, or the guy that is toasted for TDs and then looks around the end zone with a confused look on his face like it was someone else’s fault the opposition just scored ANOTHER TD through the air.
May 7th, 2012 at 8:16 am
La Milicia Negra Says:
May 7th, 2012 at 8:05 am
–”Raiders signed franchise player SS Tyvon Branch to a one-year, $6.22 million contract. According to NFL.com’s Jason La Canfora, Branch is still “very much seeking a long-term deal,” so it’s unclear if he’ll report for the Raiders’ mandatory June minicamp. The Raiders are still up against the salary cap, and would benefit from getting Branch signed to a long-term pact and lowering his 2012 cap number. The sides have until July 16 to reach a long-term agreement”–
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I’m sure Jerry or Steve (Jerry before Steve) will have something typed up within the next 4-6 hours!
Thanks LMN!
May 7th, 2012 at 8:25 am
@bcz
you mean the game where Heyward-Bey had 8 catches for 155 yards and a TD?? that fumble happened in the 3rd qtr (nice try) I asked for 3rd down or 4th qtr
how about the pass off Chaz Schilens’ hands with 2:32 left ??
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Oh, it was 3rd quarter so it doesn’t matter. I see…
I agree 100% about the schilens play… remember when you were hating on Hue for the play call I brought that up.
I gotcha though. DHB can do no wrong since he made his way into the ‘Rockstar scholarship program’… but Ford, he just sucks.
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