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Raiders part ways with four player-personnel employees

By Steve Corkran
Tuesday, May 8th, 2012 at 1:46 pm in Oakland Raiders.

The Raiders just announced that they are moving forward without long-time scouts Jon Kingdon, Bruce Kebric and Kent McCloughan, as well as George Karras.
The news of Kingdon’s dismissal leaked a week or so ago. He spent 33 years with the Raiders. Kebric logged 31 years, McCloughan 40. That trio represented three-eighths of the scouting department.
Raiders general manager Reggie McKenzie already has hired Shaun Herock and Raleigh McKenzie, Reggie’s twin brother, to help offset the losses.
“This was a very difficult decision because these individuals have been part of this organization for all or parts of four decades,” Reggie McKenzie said in a press release. “We’re grateful for their dedicated service to the Raiders.”
The release states that Kingdon and Kebric were “relieved of their duties,” while Karras and McCloughan opted to retire.
McKenzie is slated to announce the restructuring of the team’s player-personnel department later this month, the release added.
McCloughan wanted to retire earlier than now. However, former owner Al Davis talked him into returning for several more yeras.
“I had talked to Al Davis when I turned 65,” said McCloughan in the release — he joined the Raiders in the mid-1960s as a cornerback, “and he said, ‘Listen, young man: You’re not quitting before I do.’ I owe him a lot. He was so nice to my family and me.
“We had some great years, including when Ron Wolf was with us. We won a lot of games. I had the opportunity to work 47 years with one team. I enjoyed it so much. I thought Al Davis was an outstanding person and boss. I enjoyed the scouting department, the coaches and players I had the opportunity to work with, and I’ll always be a Raider. I’m going out about as good as a person can go out. You couldn’t have written a better story for me.”
Davis, of course, passed away last October.

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400 Responses to “Raiders part ways with four player-personnel employees”

  1. Raider J Says:

    1st

  2. Raider J Says:

    Thanks for all of the great players, guys.

  3. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Davis, of course, passed away last October

    ***

    you serious !?!?!?

  4. YoungAmerican Says:

    Glad to see that Calvin Branch is staying.

  5. KoolKell Says:

    Wow. I wonder if Reggie McKenzie ripped up the carpets too?

  6. cfrylopez Says:

    Calvin Branch & Zack Crocket are still Oakland Raiders Scouts!

  7. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    YO THE BEEECH DAWG PARTY TRAIN IN FULL EFFECT

    Just landed at the Catamaran Mission Beach with the Certified Platinum Posse and my all star reggae side project Rasta Ganja

    Got meetings this afternoon with high powered promoters, will probably get a few sweet gigs

    First gots to get way high and play a little beach volleyball. The Beeech Diggity always pulls hizzies when he throws down his patent “Dawg Spike”

    Yo, still throwin’ shout outs to my homeboy MCA, peace be to my Brooklyn homies and Central Park Renegades

    HOLLA

  8. hwnrdr Says:

    5.KoolKell Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
    Wow. I wonder if Reggie McKenzie ripped up the carpets too?

    Yup, and tiled it!

  9. DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:

    47 years doing the coolest job ever. With the Raiders!

  10. Raidergil650 Says:

    IN REGGIE I TRUST! DOING IT BIG!

  11. KoolKell Says:

    Boy, I can’t be on this blog for 2 minutes, before Dumb Beech shows up. Amazing.

  12. HayesDaze37 Says:

    I’d say 40, 33, and 31-years spent scouting has earned them great kudos and thanks. Most people never want, or have the chance, to work for one company for 30-years…and these guys did it willingly. Yes, Al’s loyalty got in the way of some better decisions sometimes…but it’s easier to appreciate when you read statements like the one by McCoughan.

    I salute and appreciate their hard work and loyalty to the Raiders!

  13. Area man Says:

    The carpets had to be changed, they got water damage when the overhead projector shorted out and caught fire.

  14. cfrylopez Says:

    Was it Reggie or was it really Mark th@ dissmissed the Scouts? Only Al knows, who of course, passed away last October!

  15. RaiderRockstar Says:

    They have been replaced in the scouting dept by Chuck Bresnahan, Kevin Ross, Greg Biekert & Rickey Hunley

  16. Tex Says:

    It is sad but I guess part of the business. I wonder how big the department will be.

  17. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Only Al knows, who of course, passed away last October!

    ***

    Link? Source?

  18. Goldie7 Says:

    Sad Day in the Black Hole. Darn I’m feeling bad. Anyway Thank you Jon Kingdon, Bruce Kebric, Kent McCloughan, and George Karras for all your Phenomenal and Outstanding work. Thanks for your Long Dedication. Thank you for the SuperBowl wins! Thanks for being an Oak/LA Raider! Thanks for the info Mr. Cork.

  19. Marks hair Says:

    Omg your so old. Get the fk out..

  20. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    KrappyRat, you just love to imagine I’m stalking you. Poor old fool

    My awesome post had nothing to do with you, yet you’re wishing so bad it did

    Before you send your next tattletale email off to your gal pal Becker, post it on the blog first so we can all have a good laugh

  21. Thec Says:

    Thank you, Jon Kingdon, Bruce Kebric, Kent McCloughan, and George Karras for all the hard work and dedication to the NATION.

  22. Thec Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 2:00 pm
    They have been replaced in the scouting dept by Chuck Bresnahan

    +++++
    I don not want this guy even living in Alameda…

    Blackstock…nuff said.

  23. Thec Says:

    1 NATION

  24. KoolKell Says:

    Generational change in Alameda.

  25. SR Raider Says:

    Had to happen. I hear they use computers now

  26. RaiderDuck Says:

    Interesting how three of the four guys we’re keeping are all former players (Branch, Crockett and Marvin).

  27. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    Brahs, just pulled this smokin’ hot beach volleyball groupie back to our suite for a little shower make out action

    My Dawg Spikes were on today, basically won 3 games all with my patent move

    Got a few industry execs showing up in the suite pretty soon, gotta smoke some more of the ganja then change into my silk jammies

    Never take a business meeting without my PJs, word

  28. hwnrdr Says:

    21.Thec Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
    Thank you, Jon Kingdon, Bruce Kebric, Kent McCloughan, and George Karras for all the hard work and dedication to the NATION.

    AMEN!

  29. HairyBush Says:

    YoungAmerican Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
    Glad to see that Calvin Branch is staying.
    ————–
    for now anyways

  30. RaidaVic69 Says:

    This really is a NEW Era in Raiders football. Along will Al’s passing also followed by the passing of the men that stood by his side through the Glory Days and the Dark Ones. These men help built the Raiders legacy and we shall forever be thankful.

    Nevertheless, change is inevitable and I couldn’t be happier with the the way BigMac is running the show. The NEW ERA or Raider Football is here Fellas, and its time to regain our rightful place amongst the elite in the football world.

    Go Raiders!!

  31. Marks hair Says:

    Yeah.. 65.. Retire!!

  32. Marks hair Says:

    Its kind of obvious why we’ve been behind the times for soo long.. Dead men walking..

  33. Marks hair Says:

    Those guys were older than my hairstyle..

  34. KoolKell Says:

    Pretty sad, T.O. appearing on Dr Phil.

  35. HairyBush Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
    Pretty sad, T.O. appearing on Dr Phil.
    ——————
    Looks like he will do anything to get back into the NFL. Did you see him tear up and everything. Dr. Phil definetley coached him. He will be an Oakland Raider this season-book it.

  36. Marks hair Says:

    You picked a kicker in the 1st rd.. Get the fk out..

  37. KoolKell Says:

    But for a guy who claims to continue to hold out hope for playing in the NFL, why is he going on a show like Dr. Phil’s? It won’t help persuade a team to sign Owens; it will if anything have only the opposite effect.

    Owens’ willingness to appear on the program possibly arises from his desire to find a way, no matter how desperate or sad or ill-advised, to remain in the spotlight. And that’s all the more reason for the NFL to find a way to help its players transition to a post-football existence that ordinarily entails far less cash — and even farther less fame.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/08/for-t-o-path-to-nfl-surely-doesnt-go-through-dr-phil/

  38. HairyBush Says:

    Marks hair Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
    Those guys were older than my hairstyle..
    ——————-
    Not so sure the words hair and style should even be used in the same sentence in this case…seriously lol

  39. Marks hair Says:

    37. Exactly.. Stunts like that are the reason why reg wont even look at him..

  40. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    KrappyRat, another afternoon spent at home watching daytime tv, huh?

    No worries old dude, I just slid into my silk PJs and am about to take an extremely important business meeting.

    Rasta Ganja should have a few huge gigs lined up by happy hour

    Then it’ll be time for a poolside jam, there’s a hot babe in a white bikini who’s giving the Beeech Diggity serious wood

    Like to bag THAT before the Lake Show tips off

    HOLLA BACK SISTER SLEDGE

  41. wasbanned Says:

    Thank you for your contributions to a team who hasn’t won a championship since 1983.

    You won’t be missed. Get your sh*t and get out!

    Go Reggie go!

  42. HairyBush Says:

    T.O. will be added late. maybe 2nd or 3rd preseason game

  43. ELWAYs TEETH Says:

    And as parting gifts, they all get to keep their polaroid cameras, mini casette tape recorders, IBM typewiters, and film projectors.

  44. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    Sorry to see the old time scouts dismissed.

    The Raids deserve to be criticized for whiffing on so many early round picks, but I think the Raids have done pretty well with late round selections and would guess these scouts played a role in that.

    Hope their replacements are ready to go.

    Most of you guys are too young to remember the days of BLESTO.

    There was actually a time where NFL clubs used shared scouting services like BLESTO to obtain info on prospects, and some didn’t even maintain their own scouting departments.

    There was a time when only two teams did not subscribe to BLESTO.

    Of course, the Raids were one of them.

    Al insisted on his own network of scouts and player evaluation and adamantly refused to participate in the sharing of information or resources.

    The maverick at his best.

  45. Marks hair Says:

    Many ppl have rocked the bowlcut.. Moe, Opee, hitler..

  46. HairyBush Says:

    Marks hair Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
    Many ppl have rocked the bowlcut.. Moe, Opee, hitler..
    —————–
    that’s quite a collection

  47. Marks hair Says:

    43. Dont let them forget their dentures, depends and pills.. They forget those pills everywhere..

  48. Just Win Baby Says:

    Terrell Owens is on Dr Phil as we speak. What a tool.

  49. ELWAYs TEETH Says:

    Marks Hair: Those pills are Geritol………..Performance Enhancing Drugs?

  50. Marks hair Says:

    I heard one of our scouts was aboard the titanic

  51. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Pretty sad, T.O. appearing on Dr Phil.

    ***

    Agreed

    I wanted the Raiders to sign him, but this is getting pathetic. Just play football and keep your mouth shut, man!

  52. The Big Banana Says:

    TO has to be getting paid for that…right?

  53. MistaBrown Says:

    So where are all the lugnuts that wanted us to sign T.O?

    KK, you are one of those nuts, ya ?

  54. RaiderSam Says:

    Thec Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
    Thank you, Jon Kingdon, Bruce Kebric, Kent McCloughan, and George Karras for all the hard work and dedication to the NATION.

    ========

    bump

    GOLF WANG

    Trolls…KILL THEM ALL!

  55. RaiderSam Says:

    RAIDERMAN99 Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
    Sorry to see the old time scouts dismissed.

    The Raids deserve to be criticized for whiffing on so many early round picks, but I think the Raids have done pretty well with late round selections and would guess these scouts played a role in that.

    Hope their replacements are ready to go.

    Most of you guys are too young to remember the days of BLESTO.

    There was actually a time where NFL clubs used shared scouting services like BLESTO to obtain info on prospects, and some didn’t even maintain their own scouting departments.

    There was a time when only two teams did not subscribe to BLESTO.

    Of course, the Raids were one of them.

    Al insisted on his own network of scouts and player evaluation and adamantly refused to participate in the sharing of information or resources.

    The maverick at his best.

    ======

    It was time to move on…different scouts bring different perceptions on how players fit….R.McKenzie didnt do it, too soon….

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
    Pretty sad, T.O. appearing on Dr Phil.

    —————-

    Very sad…cannot believe this guy…gets bad towards the end, doesn’t it?

  56. RaiderSam Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 2:00 pm
    They have been replaced in the scouting dept by Chuck Bresnahan, Kevin Ross, Greg Biekert & Rickey Hunley

    =======

    If a team struggled like ours did, why even be sarcastic.

    Are our expectations diminished that much…how freaking far have we fallen as fans?

  57. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    SamBorg the Uber Goober

    Remember that day I dissed you so hard you were left stumbling around the blog, babbling to yourself in Klingon?

    That was pretty hilarious, huh dude? Great memories.

  58. KoolKell Says:

    Presibent 0bama to be re-elected President in 2012

    59.1%
    CHANCE
    Last prediction was: $5.91 / share
    Today’s Change: -$0.05 (-0.8%)

    http://www.intrade.com/v4/markets/contract/?contractId=743474

  59. KoolKell Says:

    President 0bama to be re-elected President in 2012* Lol.

    59.1%
    CHANCE
    Last prediction was: $5.91 / share
    Today’s Change: -$0.05 (-0.8%)

    http://www.intrade.com/v4/markets/contract/?contractId=743474

  60. M Lonetree Says:

    78% of NFLers have blown their money (no matter how much they’ve earned) within 2 years of retirement.

    wonder if there’s a Wonderlic question addressing the issue?

  61. KoolKell Says:

    M Lonetree Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 3:30 pm

    78% of NFLers have blown their money (no matter how much they’ve earned) within 2 years of retirement.

    wonder if there’s a Wonderlic question addressing the issue?
    ————————————–
    Do you have a link to substantiate that?

  62. M Lonetree Says:

    Sports Illustrated and CNN reports the findings. Look it up.

  63. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “wonder if there’s a Wonderlic question addressing the issue?”

    LMAO that’s funny

  64. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Here is what that Wonderlic question would look like:

    You just signed a 10 million dollar contract what is the first thing you do:

    A. Buy your posse gold necklaces
    B. Impregnate 4 women that will eventually sue you for all you are worth
    C. Buy 3 Mercedes worth 500K each
    D. Buy millions of dollars worth of jewelry
    E. Make some bad real estate investments
    F All of the above

  65. KoolKell Says:

    By the time they have been retired for two years, 78% of former NFL players have gone bankrupt or are under financial stress because of joblessness or divorce.

    • Within five years of retirement, an estimated 60% of former NBA players are broke.

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1153364

  66. Just Win Baby Says:

    The first thing a rookies agent should do is take him to the fertility bank and have his specimens frozen for future use. The next thing he should do is take him to a urologist for a vasectomy. These morons will give all their money to baby mama if you let them.

  67. Twocents Says:

    KoolKell loves his leader but does he have a clue about where he is leading us?
    I just can’t believe that some people think that more government is the answer.

  68. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “I just can’t believe that some people think that more government is the answer.”

    More government is NOT the answer the problem is that both parties will posture and lie to your face and say they are for less government when in reality they are not.

    The dem’s want to spend on social programs to help the needy. The republicans want to spend on Homeland security and wars.

    Both equal more government.

  69. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Any one of you that think somehow the president can have an effect on the economy are wrong.

    When the economy is good everyone is happy and that president will stay in office. When the economy is bad a president will get voted out of office because everyone votes according to their own pocketbook.

    If Presidents could change the economy they WOULD just to keep their jobs.

    All you have to do is look at Wall Street and the FOREX market to see where investor confidence is and where the dollar is at.

    Right now the S&P500 and the dollar are at a 4 year high this has nothing to do with the current administration if it was down it would also have nothing to do with the current administration.

    People who invest in the market understand this.

  70. KoolKell Says:

    Let Detroit Go Bankrupt

    By MITT ROMNEY
    Published: November 18, 2008

    IF General Motors, Ford and Chrysler get the bailout that their chief executives asked for yesterday, you can kiss the American automotive industry goodbye. It won’t go overnight, but its demise will be virtually guaranteed.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/19/opinion/19romney.html

  71. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    Pretty sad, T.O. appearing on Dr Phil.

    “““““““““““““““““““““““““““`
    I, for one wont be shedding any tears for that jacka$$.

    Dude literally pi$$ed away $80 MILLION USD.

    He’ll soon be on the “celebrity” boxing circuit with Jose Canseco, and that figure skating skank that had her competitor’s kneecap whacked..

    Or, even worse. T.O. will end up being Octomom’s co-star in her porno, she’s thinking of making to keep a roof over all those kids heads…..

    Any of YOU PEOPLE who want Reggie to sign this d-bag, needs to put the crack pipe down, and take five giant steps away from the bar….

  72. Twocents Says:

    Politicians have been in control of this country for longer than I have been alive, always promising that peace and prosperity is just around the corner.
    It has only gotten worse.

  73. MistaBrown Says:

    KK seeing the writing on the wall. His beloved marxist hero is going to lose in a landslide so floods a sports blog with political links.

    Way to go CooCooMunster!

    hope & change

    lol

  74. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    2cents, when’s the last time you had a cool margarita and let a ho massage your nads?

    Dude you’re the most depressed blogger this side of KrappyWife. If she was a blogger.

    Try cranking a little reggae music, smoke a spliff and treat yourself to a few lap dances

    That’s how the Beeech Diggity rolls and my abs have never looked so good

  75. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “Let Detroit Go Bankrupt

    By MITT ROMNEY
    Published: November 18, 2008

    IF General Motors, Ford and Chrysler get the bailout that their chief executives asked for yesterday, you can kiss the American automotive industry goodbye. It won’t go overnight, but its demise will be virtually guaranteed.”

    AND right now Chrysler is the top selling and grossing company in the automobile industry not to mention back on the fortune 500 top 10 list!

  76. M Lonetree Says:

    Triple6,

    the way the Guv’mint works looks like its hired 78% of former NFLers and 60% of former NBAers to run its programs.

    Vegas,

    I thought of the vasectomy angle to minimize the damage but I realize most people wish to self-relpicate at some point…you’re clever to point out the sperm bank nuance.

  77. chuck Says:

    I don’t care what anyone says,Reggie can’t fire someone who has been with us this long.mark seems to be a lot like his dad and is using Reggie as the front man.

  78. Twocents Says:

    The American auto industry was finished long ago. It is still around because taxpayers subsidize it.
    Let’s bail out some more failures until we run out of money.

  79. MistaBrown Says:

    0hbhama has sunk billions into the green industry with not a single job to show for it. By the way we are already out of money. We borrow .40 for every dollar we spend.

    hope & change
    _____

    Twocents Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 4:00 pm

    The American auto industry was finished long ago. It is still around because taxpayers subsidize it.
    Let’s bail out some more failures until we run out of money.

  80. RAIDER NATION STATION http://www.raidernationstation.com/ Says:

    New Owner, New GM, New system, new scouting department. Makes sense…

    Have a great night nation!~

  81. KoolKell Says:

    Twocents Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 4:00 pm

    The American auto industry was finished long ago. It is still around because taxpayers subsidize it.
    ——————————————-
    If you could only get one fact right………Lol, Jeezus.

  82. RaiderLen Says:

    Chuck Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
    I don’t care what anyone says,Reggie can’t fire someone who has been with us this long.mark seems to be a lot like his dad and is using Reggie as the front man.
    ——————————-
    Reggie CAN and HE did.

  83. Twocents Says:

    Beeech Dawg, actually I’m doing fine. I love liberty and am just trying to point out the absurdity of statist propaganda.

  84. Twocents Says:

    KoolKell, where is the link?

  85. RaiderLen Says:

    Twocents Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 4:00 pm
    The American auto industry was finished long ago. It is still around because taxpayers subsidize it.
    Let’s bail out some more failures until we run out of money.
    ——————————-
    We’ll never run out of Money. The Fed owns a printing press, has the ink, and the plates.

    Right?

  86. MistaBrown Says:

    KKMunster, do you ever get tired of hearing the pres blame others and repeat class warfare garbage over & over?

    Never gets tiring does it?

  87. MistaBrown Says:

    After 3.5 years of this incompetent mess you either have to be retarded or hate your country to support our marxist in chief.

    KK, which is it?

  88. Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:

    Moe is their leader.

    Reg is our leader.

    McCloughan and Kingdom both voted for Taft.

    Change is good, unless of course it’s spare change circa 2008-2012.

  89. M Lonetree Says:

    Chuck,

    I watched as a fan in the stands when Kent McCloughan was a DB. 47 years later he retires from the org. and you think that’s wrong?

    3.4 years avg. career in the NFL.

  90. KoolKell Says:

    Bin-Laden Dead, GM Alive, Job Growth 26 straight months, New Raider General Manager, ok?

    The only class warfare I see, is the one waged by Republicans, against people like you, BrownStains.

  91. M Lonetree Says:

    In reality folks the empire has crumbled and your debates of GOPs and Dems are as nonsensical as wondering who could’ve been a better leader for the Hittites or the Anasazi.
    dust to dust.

  92. DKnight007 Says:

    Thanks for your decades of service to the former scouts of the Raiders.

    Change has been LONG overdue within the Raider organization however, especially when it comes to the player personnel and general manager side of things.

    Keep doing what needs to be done Reggie to turn this franchise around.

  93. DKnight007 Says:

    87.MistaBrown Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 4:08 pm
    After 3.5 years of this incompetent mess you either have to be retarded or hate your country to support our marxist in chief.

    KK, which is it?

    ^^^^^^^^
    A retard calling somebody else a retard??

    Go away ya moron!

  94. MistaBrown Says:

    KKMunster, job growth ?

    The longest stretch of unemployment for 36 straight months over 8%. The only time unemployment goes down is when thousands drop off the unemployment radar when their benefits expire.

    Wakeup Munster you effing tard!

  95. MistaBrown Says:

    DiKnight, the dimwitted draft buffoon are you still licking J Lin’s sack ?

    lmfao

  96. MistaBrown Says:

    CooCooKell thinks cash for clunkers = job growth

  97. Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:

    Class warfare rookies.

    Repubs are class warfare rookies…they are so weak and mamby pamby on the much needed class warfare that has laid siege to the USA.

    Only when they bifurcate Republic and allow free enterprise for the workers and forced indentured servitude on bloody poor people making a way of life on the govt. dole, will there be true class warfare….and it’s about time.

    Miller vs. Parsons is the battle to follow in camp.

  98. RaiderDuck Says:

    Chuck Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
    I don’t care what anyone says,Reggie can’t fire someone who has been with us this long.mark seems to be a lot like his dad and is using Reggie as the front man.

    ==========================================

    Reggie was given total control over football operations. Amy Trask and co. are out of his reach (not that he would care about the non-football end, anyway), but everything and everybody football-related is his domain. And that’s as it should be.

  99. Just Fire Baby Says:

    That trio represented three-eighths of the scouting department.

    ***************************

    Is Priest 1/8th of it?

  100. KoolKell Says:

    Now, less than three years later, G.M. and Chrysler have markedly exceeded our expectations. Just a few days ago, G.M. reported an annual profit of $7.6 billion, and Chrysler is in the black as well. Both companies have increased their sales sharply, in part by making appealing new models.

    And they are hiring new workers for the first time in many years. Michigan’s unemployment rate has dropped far faster than the national average, though it is still painfully high.

    All of this was accomplished at relatively low cost; taxpayers will receive back the vast preponderance of the $82 billion that was invested.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/24/opinion/delusions-about-the-detroit-bailout.html

  101. Twocents Says:

    The patron saint of statists, Benito Mussilini.
    And liberals, who love an all powerful state, call other people fascist, what a joke.

  102. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Last night the 2011 San Diego State bowl game was on one of the ESPN channels.

    I tried to watch for a few minutes for our guy we drafted to make a play and stand out, but after 20 minutes I didn’t hear his name and changed the channel, lol.

  103. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Dick Morris thinks it will be a Romn-dawg landslide.

  104. Twocents Says:

    KoolKell, leave it to you to quote the NY Times, the mouth piece for the state.

  105. KoolKell Says:

    Mitt Romney wrongly claimed deficits “multiplied … by a factor of four or five” under President 0bama. He also incorrectly stated that auto companies have repaid only a “small” share of the government bailout money.

    The deficit was already running at $1.2 trillion when 0bama took office, and it grew to more than $1.4 trillion during his administration — an increase of far less than 400 percent to 500 percent. As for the auto bailout money, nearly 50 percent of the roughly $80 billion has been paid back. By any reasonable measure, half is not “a small share.”

    http://www.factcheck.org/2011/06/romney-wrong-on-deficits-auto-bailout/

  106. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    disgusting whhat this fool is doing to the raiders…kinda like the ex dodgers owner.

  107. MistaBrown Says:

    Munster see’s the writing on the wall and is in full panic mode.

    CooCooKell,
    Jimmy carter lowered the bar VERY low but pres purp lips managed to go underneath it. He will be justly fired in Nov, deal with it.

    :)

  108. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    jfb…all the players they drafted are non-factors.

  109. Twocents Says:

    KoolKell, you actually believe this crp. You are a tool that would have been quite at home in Nazi Germany.

  110. MistaBrown Says:

    KKMunster, we just need more govt to fix what govt breaks, right?

    #nimrod

  111. KoolKell Says:

    0bama to be re-elected President in 2012

    59.7%

    CHANCE
    Last prediction was: $5.97 / share
    Today’s Change: +$0.01 (+0.2%)
    Contract Type: 0-100

    http://www.intrade.com/v4/markets/contract/?contractId=743474

  112. MistaBrown Says:

    KK, usually people get wiser with age.What happened to you?

    Just a bitter old man after your white wife left you years ago?

  113. Twocents Says:

    KoolKell, I know that your man is going to be re-elected. I just can’t understand why you are so happy about it.

  114. R8ER MIKE Says:

    DMAC for prez…RaiderO for v.p.

  115. MistaBrown Says:

    Beyond California and Oregon how many other states are dumb enough to vote for this incompetent?

    Should be a landslide for Romney.
    _____

    Twocents Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 4:39 pm

    KoolKell, I know that your man is going to be re-elected. I just can’t understand why you are so happy about it.

  116. KoolKell Says:

    Because the last time Republicans were in office, the Trade Centers came down. 2 Wars were started off budget. The Financial System collapsed (Loose regs) Auto Industry went bankrupt. Losing jobs at a rate of 750,000 per month, what else………..

    When Clinton was in charge there was prosperity, simple as that.

  117. Twocents Says:

    By the way, if Ron Paul runs on the Libertarian ticket he will get 20% of the vote. That will mean that the two statists will not have a majority. The beginning of the end for the sham that is called Democracy.

  118. Area man Says:

    Only political post I will make on this blog.
    The republicans say they are against deficits. The democrats say they are against deficits. They are lying. If both major parties are against deficits, why is there a deficit? It goes on and on, worse and worse.
    Government – if you think the problems we create are bad, just wait until you see our solutions!

  119. RaiderDuck Says:

    Al_is_theraiders Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
    jfb…all the players they drafted are non-factors.

    =====================================

    Wrong. By 2013, two or three of the class will be starting, with two or three more either starting or getting big minutes by 2014. Not bad for no first or second-round picks.

  120. Twocents Says:

    Why anyone would believe a politician just shows how ignorant the majority is.
    Democracy is a failure.

  121. Seymour Bush Says:

    By Martin Crutsinger

    WASHINGTON — U.S. companies in March posted the highest number of job openings in nearly four years, a sign that hiring could strengthen in the coming months after slowing this spring.

    The Labor Department said Tuesday that employers advertised 3.74 million job openings in March. That’s up from a revised 3.57 million in February. The March figure was the highest since July 2008, just before the financial crisis erupted that fall.

  122. R8ER MIKE Says:

    So what’s the answer then twocents?

  123. R8ER MIKE Says:

    Or is just all gloom and doom with you?

  124. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    duck if non-talented undersized and slow players are starting for this team, then there are bigger problems in the world than midwest and east coast raider fans!

  125. RaiderDuck Says:

    Al_is_theraiders Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
    duck if non-talented undersized and slow players are starting for this team, then there are bigger problems in the world than midwest and east coast raider fans!

    =======================================

    Non-talented? I must be imagining all those first and second-team All Conference honors our draftees had.

  126. Twocents Says:

    The answer is liberty.
    Sound money, freedom and property rights.
    Do not aggress others, but defend what is yours.

  127. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    great…in college…no potential in nfl, they are topped out.

  128. RaiderDuck Says:

    Al_is_theraiders Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
    great…in college…no potential in nfl, they are topped out.

    ========================================

    And your source for this is…?

  129. Seymour Bush Says:

    MistaBrown Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 4:42 pm

    Beyond California and Oregon how many other states are dumb enough to vote for this incompetent?

    Should be a landslide for Romney.
    ==========================================

    Actually, early projections have it almost 2 to 1 the President over Romney. Romney is going to get thumped. Wrong again. As usual. Maybe he can get Newt as his running mate and really embarrass himself.

  130. RAIDER NATION STATION http://www.raidernationstation.com/ Says:

    Twocents Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
    Why anyone would believe a politician just shows how ignorant the majority is.
    Democracy is a failure.

    ————————

    Democracy may not be perfect but it is one of the best systems in the history of civilization. Its the criminal Corporations and gangster bankers we let slip into. There in lies the problem.

    Have a good night all!

  131. Seymour Bush Says:

    Al_is_theraiders Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 4:55 pm

    duck if non-talented undersized and slow players are starting for this team, then there are bigger problems in the world than midwest and east coast raider fans!
    ========================================

    Huh?

  132. Twocents Says:

    What difference does it really make if it is Obam or Rummy.
    Both are beholden to the ruling class.
    How does the average man benefit in either scenario?

  133. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    you cant teach speed…you cant grow bigger at 21 and if your lifting great, youre behind the naturally bigger guys who are also lifting…effort is great but this us the nfl, you need more.

  134. Twocents Says:

    The gangster bankers are the Federal Reserve. They rule the world. Our Democracy created them. WTF?

  135. KoolKell Says:

    Twocents Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 4:59 pm

    The answer is liberty.
    Sound money, freedom and property rights.
    Do not aggress others, but defend what is yours.
    ———————————-
    What do all those platitudes mean in the here & now?

    Yeah, everybody loves “Liberty & Freedom”, well after 1862, anyways ;-)

    What’s your point? As usual you never have one.

  136. KoolKell Says:

    Twocents Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 5:08 pm

    What difference does it really make if it is Obam or Rummy.
    Both are beholden to the ruling class.
    How does the average man benefit in either scenario?
    ———————————————
    Education is the vehicle for lower and middle class. Republicans want to cut it. Democrats want to expand it.

    Lord knows we need it. Lmao.

  137. Twocents Says:

    KoolKell, is freedom a platitude? Do you even know what it means. You have sold yourself into slavery to the state and you don’t even realize it.

  138. KoolKell Says:

    Twocents Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 5:15 pm

    KoolKell, is freedom a platitude? Do you even know what it means. You have sold yourself into slavery to the state and you don’t even realize it.
    ————————————–
    What are you talking about?????????

  139. Twocents Says:

    KoolKell, education by the state is your major problem.
    You believe all the myths your masters have taught you.

  140. KoolKell Says:

    Because the last time Republicans were in office, the World Trade Centers came tumbling down. 2 Wars were started off Budget. The Financial System Collapsed (Loose regs) Auto Industry went Bankrupt. Economy Losing jobs at a rate of 750,000 per month, what else………..

    When Clinton was in charge there was peace & prosperity, simple as that.

  141. KoolKell Says:

    Twocents Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 5:19 pm

    KoolKell, education by the state is your major problem.
    ———————————-
    Wtf are you talking about???????

  142. Twocents Says:

    KoolKell, all your sources are statist propaganda. Have you ever considered that?

  143. RaiderDuck Says:

    Al_is_theraiders Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
    you cant teach speed…you cant grow bigger at 21 and if your lifting great, youre behind the naturally bigger guys who are also lifting…effort is great but this us the nfl, you need more.

    ======================================

    I respectfully disagree. Recent NFL history is full of players who were judged too small and/or too slow during the Underwear Olympics and went on to have great NFL careers. Tom Brady, Zach Thomas and Wes Welker are only a few of those.

    In order to succeed without those traits, you need smarts, guts and a huge work ethic. Guess what every guy Reggie just picked has in SPADES?

  144. KoolKell Says:

    Twocents Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 5:21 pm

    KoolKell, all your sources are statist propaganda. Have you ever considered that?
    ————————————
    What are your sources?

  145. RaiderLen Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 5:20 pm
    Twocents Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 5:19 pm

    KoolKell, education by the state is your major problem.
    ———————————-
    Wtf are you talking about???????
    ———————————
    “education” provided by a large political Body with the interests of the state and it’s message, above all else.

  146. chuck Says:

    time will they about Reggie,I am raider fan so I hope he is as good as raiderduck think he is.one thing I do know is just because Reggie picks a player he is not a lock for the hall of fame.

  147. DKnight007 Says:

    140.KoolKell Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 5:20 pm
    Because the last time Republicans were in office, the World Trade Centers came tumbling down. 2 Wars were started off Budget. The Financial System Collapsed (Loose regs) Auto Industry went Bankrupt. Economy Losing jobs at a rate of 750,000 per month, what else………..

    When Clinton was in charge there was peace & prosperity, simple as that.

    ^^^^^^^^
    Your forgot to also mention Bush and his evil cronies caused the Real Estate economic meltdown by allowing lenders/brokers/appraisers go unchecked.

  148. KoolKell Says:

    RaiderLen Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 5:27 pm

    “education” provided by a large political Body with the interests of the state and it’s message, above all else.
    ———————————
    Really? You mean science and evolution, things like that? Taught by communists Teacher’s Unions?

  149. KoolKell Says:

    Dknight, I tried to reference that by the “Loose regs) comment.

  150. DKnight007 Says:

    Twocents Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
    Why anyone would believe a politician just shows how ignorant the majority is.
    Democracy is a failure

    ^^^^^^^
    Agreed…but it is Capitalism or should I say Vulturism that is a sham.

  151. RaiderLen Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 5:30 pm
    RaiderLen Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 5:27 pm

    “education” provided by a large political Body with the interests of the state and it’s message, above all else.
    ———————————
    Really? You mean science and evolution, things like that? Taught by communists Teacher’s Unions?
    —————————————————-
    Just pointing out where he is coming from.

    Public education in reading, writing, math, science..etc and it’s quality, is as good as the commitment of the Teacher(s), Parents, and Student.

  152. KoolKell Says:

    After Decades of Outsourcing, Manufacturing Jobs Coming Home to US

    http://www.cnbc.com/id/47323840/

  153. Twocents Says:

    Capitalism is someone who saves enough money to buy a tractor rather than buying more shovels.

  154. downsouthraider Says:

    Kell take all that political schit to the Communist News Network blog! We’re here to talk Raider football

  155. DKnight007 Says:

    41.wasbanned Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
    Thank you for your contributions to a team who hasn’t won a championship since 1983.

    You won’t be missed. Get your sh*t and get out!

    Go Reggie go!

    ^^^^^^^
    Yup. That’s the bottom line.

  156. DKnight007 Says:

    152.KoolKell Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
    After Decades of Outsourcing, Manufacturing Jobs Coming Home to US

    http://www.cnbc.com/id/47323840/

    ^^^^^^
    The way this country is going to turn it around is by keeping manufacturing jobs here in the U.S.

  157. DKnight007 Says:

    12.HayesDaze37 Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 1:58 pm
    I’d say 40, 33, and 31-years spent scouting has earned them great kudos and thanks. Most people never want, or have the chance, to work for one company for 30-years…and these guys did it willingly. Yes, Al’s loyalty got in the way of some better decisions sometimes…but it’s easier to appreciate when you read statements like the one by McCoughan.

    I salute and appreciate their hard work and loyalty to the Raiders!

    ^^^^^^^
    No shame for being let go respectfully or retiring for these long time scouts/employees. Working for that long is a heck of a achievement.

    Time for a change and it’s just business.

  158. DKnight007 Says:

    If the Warriors lose coach Malone, this team will have a huge hole to fill.

    Warriors need to do whatever it takes to keep Malone around.

    A player the Warriors should be scouting hard right now to draft is Vanderbilt swingman 6’7, 227 pound Jeffrey Taylor.

    Good defensive player with big time athletic skills, who has a solid slashing offensive game with decent outside jumper that he is still developing. He can be plugged in at the 3 spot and do well and even spell Thompson at the 2 when needed.

  159. Twocents Says:

    Now how in the hell are we going to keep more manufacturing jobs in this country if people demand to be paid more than they are worth.
    It is a global competition.

  160. RaiderLen Says:

    @156…

    When I was in school they were selling the notion of a ” service” economy, that WE as a Nation had risen above the notion of making things here.

    I thought it was stupid then, and even more so now.

    Manufacturing, exports, Jobs = Growth = Wealth.

  161. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    WERE IS JIM OTTO THESE DAY’S ?

  162. Twocents Says:

    DKnight007, do you think that because you are American that you deserve some special priviledge?

  163. RaiderLen Says:

    Twocents Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 5:58 pm
    Now how in the hell are we going to keep more manufacturing jobs in this country if people demand to be paid more than they are worth.
    It is a global competition.
    ————————–
    The post WWII boom has long since past.

    Labor unions and the strength derived from it, are now changed.

    The expectation level of Factory workers in America have changed.

    How couldn’t they?

    We can make things here, better, and for profit.

    It can be done.

  164. RaiderLen Says:

    DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
    WERE IS JIM OTTO THESE DAY’S ?
    —————————————-
    He’s sitting in a Tub of ice reliving the glory days.

  165. Raidernationdave Says:

    Times in Raiderland under Reggie they are a’changin’!

  166. RaiderLen Says:

    Raidernationdave Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 6:07 pm
    Times in Raiderland under Reggie they are a’changin’!
    ————————
    F…ing A

    Real curious to see how the mix looks in year one.

    Reggie will get it right…in that I have faith.

  167. Raidernationdave Says:

    I just thumbed through the thread a bit a see it’s mainly you beyotches talkin’ politics.

    What a waste.

  168. Raider O Says:

    Politics?!?
    You People…..

  169. RaiderLen Says:

    Raidernationdave Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 6:10 pm
    I just thumbed through the thread a bit a see it’s mainly you beyotches talkin’ politics.

    What a waste.
    ——————————————-
    It’s the dog days of off season….shiit happens…lol

  170. Raider O Says:

    Later Nation. You too Monkeys.

  171. RaiderLen Says:

    Raider O Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 6:12 pm
    Politics?!?
    You People…
    ———————-
    Hey…O!

    You callin MY people YOU people?! lol

    Legalize weed.

    There, that’s a political statement…You OK with that…right?

  172. Raidernationdave Says:

    RaiderLen I think in 5 years people will either call Reggie a total genius or a total waste – the fact remains he is getting comfortable and putting in place people he wants working for him – the buck stops with Reggie and I for one am glad to see it.

  173. JLofty Says:

    Thanks for the years of service, enjoy your retirement! Wish I could retire…

  174. Twocents Says:

    I wish I had that much faith in Americans. Quite frankly I just don’t see it. Americans, the old Americans that believed in responsibilty and freedom are long gone.
    Now we have a nation that believes in entitlement. A bunch of drones that think they are better than the scum that occupies the rest of the world and are willing to kill them to advance the Empire.
    Anything so that they don’t have to actually do any real work to advancce themselves.

  175. RaiderLen Says:

    Raidernationdave Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 6:15 pm
    RaiderLen I think in 5 years people will either call Reggie a total genius or a total waste – the fact remains he is getting comfortable and putting in place people he wants working for him – the buck stops with Reggie and I for one am glad to see it.
    —————————————-
    Agree Dave,

    Reggie has the keys. It’s ALL on Him.

    He gets it. I think playoffs are in the near future.

    SB take’s a little luck.

  176. Raider O Says:

    Len,

    LOL
    Legalize it!!!
    Enjoy the show.

  177. Intrepid Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 1:53 pm

    Wow. I wonder if Reggie McKenzie ripped up the carpets too?
    ———————————————————-Here’s the part you missed, KooKoo.————–I thought Al Davis was an outstanding person and boss. I enjoyed the scouting department, the coaches and players I had the opportunity to work with, and I’ll always be a Raider. I’m going out about as good as a person can go out. You couldn’t have written a better story for me.”

  178. RaiderLen Says:

    Raider O Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
    Len,

    LOL
    Legalize it!!!
    Enjoy the show.
    ————————–
    Peace Brother

  179. Raidernationdave Says:

    Oh, and BTW if you think I let Bergstrom’s Mormonism get in the way of me being a fan of his or the Silver & Black think again.

    The religious views of a player have nothing to do with his ability to play. It’s about the team and nothing else.

    “Win, lose or tie…Raider Nation til you die.”

  180. RaiderLen Says:

    Raidernationdave Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 6:24 pm
    Oh, and BTW if you think I let Bergstrom’s Mormonism get in the way of me being a fan of his or the Silver & Black think again.

    The religious views of a player have nothing to do with his ability to play. It’s about the team and nothing else.

    “Win, lose or tie…Raider Nation til you die.”
    ———————————–
    You know what would make for great theater?

    A top 10 NFL player that claimed He owed all of His success to the Devil.

    You know, I sold my sole and look at me now biatches.

    LOL

    How would the NFL handle that circumstance?

  181. Hardline Says:

    Last night a reporter asked Warren Buffet when our economy would improve. Buttet answered when housing comes back after we work through the upside down market. For a man worth $40B it was a fallacious, incomplete and lame contention.

    Housing can only come back when the middle class have money to purchase homes, which won’t be happening any time soon, en masse, since well paying jobs are far and few between: most of those jobs are now parked in 3rd world countries due to corporate malfeasance and corruption of our politicians, for allowing it.

    For example, concensus opinion is that Steve Jobs was a brilliant entrepeneur, revolutionizing the personal computer business while amassing $60B for Apple.

    I say Jobs was a traitor and maker of children’s communicative trinkets, brainwashing Apple’s customers to believe they couldn’t live without same trinkets, which didn’t revolutionize anything except promote idling and nonsense among the people .

    I say Jobs was a destroyer of our middle class who outsourced 1.2M jobs to the Chinese, the employees working in slave like conditions. I say Jobs was a slave master especially when he declared he needed Chinese factories since he could never get the same deal, and employees willing to work in America like the Chinese.

    Of course Apple lobbyists would demand fair and equal “globalized” trade with China, while China cheated and hornswaggled its grip, choking out the U.S. market and our jobs here.

    Apple is analogous to most U.S. companies, pays almost no income tax and does whatever it wants.

    When will we get a President who says “Enough”, and tells China and the corporate players ‘for every dollar that goes out, one must come in, otherwise you can’t do business here.

    I personally was not sorry to see Steve Jobs go; he deserved what he got.

  182. Intrepid Says:

    WERE IS JIM OTTO THESE DAY’S ?—————————
    Raising llamas. Really

  183. joker94583 Says:

    More Al scholarship employees shown the door. Nice work Reggie! Keep spraying that Febreze to rid that place of the Al stank! There’s a new sheriff in town and he ain’t playing. Go Reggie!

  184. Raidernationdave Says:

    One thing that’s always cracked me up is when an athlete scores a touchdown, hits a homer, , etc., and they point to the sky like they’re saying, “This one’s for you God.” Yet the never do it after they fumble, or strikeout as if God only get’s credit when things go good.

    God doesn’t care about the outcome of football games just the out come of football players.

  185. Raidernationdave Says:

    Jersery 3-1

  186. Raidernationdave Says:

    Jersey 3-1

  187. Hardline Says:

    Way to go Reggie: Attenuate the Taint!

  188. Twocents Says:

    Hardline, that is just so much crp, I am stunned. Are you fck’n insane?
    A capitalist that wants to deliver a product to the consumer is going to take the path that makes his product the cheapest. Why do you have a problem with that?

  189. 8RaiderReign8 Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
    Any one of you that think somehow the president can have an effect on the economy are wrong.

    When the economy is good everyone is happy and that president will stay in office. When the economy is bad a president will get voted out of office because everyone votes according to their own pocketbook.

    If Presidents could change the economy they WOULD just to keep their jobs.

    All you have to do is look at Wall Street and the FOREX market to see where investor confidence is and where the dollar is at.

    Right now the S&P500 and the dollar are at a 4 year high this has nothing to do with the current administration if it was down it would also have nothing to do with the current administration.

    People who invest in the market understand this.
    ______________________________

    POST OF THE DAY!!!!!!!

  190. KoolKell Says:

    A home in San Ramon listed at 565,000, got 40 offers yesterday.

  191. Raidernationdave Says:

    Another thing that cracks me up is when a player, especially a football player, makes a mistake and drops a pass he should’a caught, fumbles a ball, and points at himself like he’s going “my bad.”

    No sch**t Sherlock we know it was “your bad”! Everybody in the stadium and those watching at home all know at this moment in time you suck.

  192. YoungAmerican Says:

    Eddie Borsilli ‏ @Borsilli

    Wheeler says he has been playing all over the field at every LB position. Says the Raiders are playing a hybrid 4-3 3-4 type of D

  193. RaiderLen Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 6:43 pm
    A home in San Ramon listed at 565,000, got 40 offers yesterday.
    ——————————–
    What was it “worth” in 2008?

  194. RaiderDuck Says:

    YoungAmerican Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 6:45 pm
    Eddie Borsilli ‏ @Borsilli

    Wheeler says he has been playing all over the field at every LB position. Says the Raiders are playing a hybrid 4-3 3-4 type of D

    =============================================

    That hasn’t been said about us in…well, ever.

  195. RaiderLen Says:

    Raidernationdave Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 6:44 pm
    Another thing that cracks me up is when a player, especially a football player, makes a mistake and drops a pass he should’a caught, fumbles a ball, and points at himself like he’s going “my bad.”

    No sch**t Sherlock we know it was “your bad”! Everybody in the stadium and those watching at home all know at this moment in time you suck.
    —————————————
    LOL!

    Hey personal responsibility when everyone is looking is a step in the right direction.

    They need to work on the “when nobody is looking” part.

  196. RaiderLen Says:

    YoungAmerican Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 6:45 pm
    Eddie Borsilli ‏ @Borsilli

    Wheeler says he has been playing all over the field at every LB position. Says the Raiders are playing a hybrid 4-3 3-4 type of D
    ——————————-
    Yessss!

  197. RaiderLen Says:

    RaiderDuck Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 6:50 pm
    YoungAmerican Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 6:45 pm
    Eddie Borsilli ‏ @Borsilli

    Wheeler says he has been playing all over the field at every LB position. Says the Raiders are playing a hybrid 4-3 3-4 type of D

    =============================================

    That hasn’t been said about us in…well, ever.
    ———————————
    It’s weird in that we won some SB’s running 3-4, yet AL ran from it at just about any chance.

  198. Hot Shot Says:

    Raiders o line should be stout this year.They did a good job last year but will be much improved this year.Palmer should get some time to throw the ball this year.Running game should be better as well if we keep D-Mac healthy.

  199. Hardline Says:

    188.Twocents Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 6:42 pm
    Hardline, that is just so much crp, I am stunned. Are you fck’n insane?
    A capitalist that wants to deliver a product to the consumer is going to take the path that makes his product the cheapest. Why do you have a problem with that?
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    towcents,

    I do have a problem with it twocents, when there is an unequal playing field and national security is at stake. Your theory is too old; the capitalists used it to justify taking manufacturing overseas, saying we were transitioning into a “service economy” as an earlier poster mentioned. Now look at us. The best thing America produces is debt. We can’t produce anything contructive anymore so we sell risk and trade in debt.

    The state of American is tantamount to an old weathly family whose 2nd and 3rd generations have squandered its wealth. We are now crack addict family members and there is nothing left; we are scouring the house for hidden jewels and old furniture to sell to the pawn shop. Essentially we are consuming ourselves from the inside out.

    There is no doubt about that.

  200. Hardline Says:

    190.KoolKell Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 6:43 pm
    A home in San Ramon listed at 565,000, got 40 offers yesterday.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    I believe you are lying KK. If you are not lying 40 offers is an anomoly due to some very unique market forces at work.

  201. RaiderLen Says:

    Hot Shot Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 6:55 pm
    Raiders o line should be stout this year.They did a good job last year but will be much improved this year.Palmer should get some time to throw the ball this year.Running game should be better as well if we keep D-Mac healthy.
    —————————-
    I think most in here would agree that we are LOADED on Offense provided health is not an issue.

    I’m very curious as to how the D plays out.

    Should be lot’s to chop up and argue about…lol

  202. Twocents Says:

    KoolKell is bragging that higher prices are a sign of recovery. Who in the hell wants higher prices? The sign of a vibrant, succesful economy is lower prices.

  203. Hardline Says:

    What is hilarious here is that recently, Sullivan44 accused me of “taking marching orders from Rush Limbaugh.”

    Funny…….

  204. Hardline Says:

    202.Twocents Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 6:59 pm
    KoolKell is bragging that higher prices are a sign of recovery. Who in the hell wants higher prices? The sign of a vibrant, succesful economy is lower prices.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    That’s true Twocents, KK is bragging that higher prices are a sign of a strengthing economy on the upswing.

    I don’t believe that at all

  205. RaiderLen Says:

    Twocents Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 6:59 pm
    KoolKell is bragging that higher prices are a sign of recovery. Who in the hell wants higher prices? The sign of a vibrant, succesful economy is lower prices.
    ———————————–
    565,000 in San Ramon would be cheap.

    40 offers is a sign that the seller is an idiot or desperate.

  206. Seymour Bush Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
    Any one of you that think somehow the president can have an effect on the economy are wrong.

    When the economy is good everyone is happy and that president will stay in office. When the economy is bad a president will get voted out of office because everyone votes according to their own pocketbook.

    If Presidents could change the economy they WOULD just to keep their jobs.

    All you have to do is look at Wall Street and the FOREX market to see where investor confidence is and where the dollar is at.

    Right now the S&P500 and the dollar are at a 4 year high this has nothing to do with the current administration if it was down it would also have nothing to do with the current administration.

    People who invest in the market understand this.
    ============================================

    I would disagree. The President controls an enormous amount of discretionary spending. Look at the prior Bush administrations and their militarism. That direct targeted militarism was a huge waste of enormous amounts of money that did not flow back through the economy, and was an absent driver in tanking the economy. Also, economic confidence is a huge indicator of current and future consumer spending. If citizens do not have confidence in the direction the president provides it will have a quick and direct effect on their spending and economy as a whole.

    As for the S&P and Forex markets, people no longer “invest” in those markets. They are flat out gambling in those markets trying to make fast, high returns. Just watch the “Facebook” initial offering for proof.

  207. Twocents Says:

    Hardline, when you say national security is at stake, you really are saying the interests of the ruling class. I could give a sht about the interests of the thieves that rule us.

  208. Hot Shot Says:

    On D we need to get more turnovers.We have been lacking in that area forced fumbles and INTs.If they can create more turnovers they will win more games.

  209. Seymour Bush Says:

    Twocents Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 6:59 pm

    Who in the hell wants higher prices? The sign of a vibrant, succesful economy is lower prices.
    ===============================================

    Lower prices would be the result more often than not of a lack of demand for certain items. Lack of demand does not equate with economic vibrancy. Higher prices are not the sole issue, the issue is do incomes keep up and adjust with prices? If not, standards of living fall. (See America, 21st century).

  210. KoolKell Says:

    There was a house here in Alameda last week that got 18 offers. Yeah, there’s an anomaly going on. there’s very few homes on the market right now. Nice well-priced homes are flying off the rack in Oakland, Alameda, Castro Valley and San Ramon that I know of.

    Multiple offere are the rule right now in the Bay Area.

  211. Seymour Bush Says:

    40 offers is a sign that the seller is an idiot or desperate.
    ========================================

    40 offers is a sign that the “realtor” did a very poor job of pricing the property.

  212. Hardline Says:

    207.Twocents Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 7:06 pm
    Hardline, when you say national security is at stake, you really are saying the interests of the ruling class. I could give a sht about the interests of the thieves that rule us.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Twocents,

    I could care less about the rich and the poor. I am talking about the destruction of the middle class and the helpless.

    IMO there is a big difference between poor and the helpless. The will always survive in this country using a little ingenuity. The helpless they are at our mercy – the middle class – which has suffered possible irredeemable setbacks.

  213. 8RaiderReign8 Says:

    The state of American is tantamount to an old weathly family whose 2nd and 3rd generations have squandered its wealth.
    _________________________

    When talking American economics it’s really as simple as this…

    Slave trade propped up America’s economy and we’ve been slowly gliding down ever since…

    Then World War II came along and all of Europe was destroyed so once again our economy was propoed up to the number one… But it’s been slowly declining & only the emergence of the computer industry has helped our economy since

  214. RaiderLen Says:

    People with gain full employment that can meet their obligations consistently over months and years is a true indicator of “consumer confidence”

    Some A hole on TV can’t tell me what’s in my bank account or how “confident” I feel.

    Industry and how THEY react to the A hole in charge, and his relation to the FED, does effect capital expenditure, and investment, therefore affecting the job market, short and longer term.

  215. Twocents Says:

    Seymour, are you saying that only fools would invest their money in the stock market without insider information?
    Your beloved politicians are exempt from the rules that prohibit making a profit on insider information.

  216. Hardline Says:

    210.KoolKell Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 7:09 pm
    There was a house here in Alameda last week that got 18 offers. Yeah, there’s an anomaly going on. there’s very few homes on the market right now. Nice well-priced homes are flying off the rack in Oakland, Alameda, Castro Valley and San Ramon that I know of.

    Multiple offere are the rule right now in the Bay Area.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    KK,

    I live on the Westside in LA. Lowest prices and interest rates have converged here too, so that a good deal will get multiple offers: just not 40 offers.

    It’s a niche in the market right now. Afterall, there are still people who have money and afford 20% down taking documented non-liar loans.

  217. RaiderLen Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
    Twocents Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 6:59 pm

    Who in the hell wants higher prices? The sign of a vibrant, succesful economy is lower prices.
    ===============================================

    Lower prices would be the result more often than not of a lack of demand for certain items. Lack of demand does not equate with economic vibrancy. Higher prices are not the sole issue, the issue is do incomes keep up and adjust with prices? If not, standards of living fall. (See America, 21st century).
    ——————————–
    It’s called inflation which is the by product of fiat currency, and then supply and demand.

  218. RaiderLen Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 7:09 pm
    There was a house here in Alameda last week that got 18 offers. Yeah, there’s an anomaly going on. there’s very few homes on the market right now. Nice well-priced homes are flying off the rack in Oakland, Alameda, Castro Valley and San Ramon that I know of.

    Multiple offere are the rule right now in the Bay Area.
    ——————————————-
    What were these homes market value 3 years ago Kell?

  219. Seymour Bush Says:

    Twocents Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 7:13 pm

    Seymour, are you saying that only fools would invest their money in the stock market without insider information?
    Your beloved politicians are exempt from the rules that prohibit making a profit on insider information.
    =============================================

    I know this. I hate politicians. YOU sound like a politician.

  220. Twocents Says:

    RaiderLen, do you know anybody that doesn’t have a demand for more goods? Quit this Keynesian nonesense.

  221. Oakland Raiders Links That You’ll Want To See May 8, 2012 | Raiders Central | Oakland Raiders Blog Says:

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  222. KoolKell Says:

    Pricing a property a little low is a strategy by some Realtors in markets like this, to stimulate offers, providing competition, and an auction environment. The Sellers make out well, which is the Listing Agents fiduciary duty.

  223. RaiderLen Says:

    Twocents Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 7:16 pm
    RaiderLen, do you know anybody that doesn’t have a demand for more goods? Quit this Keynesian nonesense.
    ————————————
    Ask the builders of homes if they know of anyone that has less demand for their product.

  224. Hardline Says:

    During the Korean War U.S. steel companies conspired to monopolize the price of steel, with the argument they had to raise prices since demand for the War was at its highest and therefore supply was low.

    President Truman thereby declared emergency price freezes and attempted to bludgeon down prices with coercive procedures.

    Steel Companies sued, lost with the case making its way to the Supreme Court, which with 9 separate opinions ruled in favor of the Steel companies.

    Truman’s price freezes were enjoined; although the Executive lost the case, Truman became a figurehead as to the power of the Executive Branch’s power to overturn unfair practices of the ruling class.

    Today’s Presidents should take a lesson from it.

  225. papertiger418 Says:

    Ravens signed Jacoby Jones to a 3yr/$7 mil. deal.

    Ridiculous!!

  226. KoolKell Says:

    Twocents, demand is the ability to purchase, not just desire.

  227. papertiger418 Says:

    Sorry, didn’t mean to interrupt your real estate discussion…

  228. papertiger418 Says:

    I’ll head over to the Economist boards and post this right now.

  229. Raidernationdave Says:

    papertiger418 Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 7:22 pm

    I’ll head over to the Economist boards and post this right now.
    +++++++++++++++++++++

    LOL!

    Scrimps fo’ ev’y one!

  230. RaiderLen Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 7:21 pm
    Twocents, demand is the ability to purchase, not just desire.
    ——————————–
    Well said Kell!

  231. Seymour Bush Says:

    It’s called inflation which is the by product of fiat currency, and then supply and demand.
    ===============================================

    Inflation is not necessarily the product of fiat currencies. There have been inflationary cycles in economies that were not based on fiat money systems.

  232. RaiderLen Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
    It’s called inflation which is the by product of fiat currency, and then supply and demand.
    ===============================================

    Inflation is not necessarily the product of fiat currencies. There have been inflationary cycles in economies that were not based on fiat money systems.
    ——————————-
    OK, lets just say they’re guaranteed with fiat.

  233. Twocents Says:

    RaiderLen, people want housing. If they can’t afford it, houses do not sell. You are putting the cart before the horse. You want the government to stimulate demand by using other peoples money. I will buy a million dollar estate if Warren Buffet pays 90% of what it is worth.

  234. Twocents Says:

    So KoolKell, the ability to purchase is decided by the government?

  235. KoolKell Says:

    Wtf are you talking about Twocents?

  236. RaiderLen Says:

    Twocents Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 7:27 pm
    RaiderLen, people want housing. If they can’t afford it, houses do not sell. You are putting the cart before the horse. You want the government to stimulate demand by using other peoples money. I will buy a million dollar estate if Warren Buffet pays 90% of what it is worth.
    ———————–
    You might be confusing me with someone else.

    I don’t want the government to stimulate anything.

    The lending “practices” legislated by our government led to the housing bubble, and the mess we are in now.

    As Kell said, demand is the ability to purchase.

    Well our government provided the ability to purchase to many who were not financially qualified under traditional lending practices.

    So now here we are.

  237. Raidernationdave Says:

    Twocents Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 7:27 pm

    RaiderLen, people want housing. If they can’t afford it, houses do not sell. You are putting the cart before the horse. You want the government to stimulate demand by using other peoples money. I will buy a million dollar estate if Warren Buffet pays 90% of what it is worth.
    +++++++++++++++++

    People want scrimps. If they can’t afford them scrimps then people that got the scrimps ain’t gonna be able to sell them damn scrimps.

    Scrimps fo ev’y one.

  238. Seymour Bush Says:

    Inflation is not necessarily the product of fiat currencies. There have been inflationary cycles in economies that were not based on fiat money systems.
    ——————————-
    OK, lets just say they’re guaranteed with fiat.
    =================================================

    Limited inflation is not in and of itself a bad thing. Rampant deflation is. If a consumer feels the price of an item is going to be cheaper tomorrow he will not buy it causing more and more economic agony. (See Japan 1980-present). Again, the issue to me at least is more about rising incomes, more than rising prices.

  239. RaiderLen Says:

    Raidernationdave Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 7:33 pm
    Twocents Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 7:27 pm

    RaiderLen, people want housing. If they can’t afford it, houses do not sell. You are putting the cart before the horse. You want the government to stimulate demand by using other peoples money. I will buy a million dollar estate if Warren Buffet pays 90% of what it is worth.
    +++++++++++++++++

    People want scrimps. If they can’t afford them scrimps then people that got the scrimps ain’t gonna be able to sell them damn scrimps.

    Scrimps fo ev’y one.
    ——————————-
    lol….what the Fuuuuck is a scrimp?

  240. KoolKell Says:

    RaiderLen the Republicans lessened the regulation on the Banking Industry, that allowed financial institutions to gamble the worthless mortgages they were writing.

  241. Just Win Baby Says:

    Boy, it sure will be nice when the impending apocalypse weeds out some of the riff-raff on this planet. Can I get a witness?!

  242. Twocents Says:

    KoolKell, the government decides who shall get loans and guarantees them with taxpayer money.

  243. SR Raider Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 7:35 pm
    RaiderLen the Republicans lessened the regulation on the Banking Industry, that allowed financial institutions to gamble the worthless mortgages they were writing.
    ==========
    ALL of Washington and Sacramento was in on that one. Lots of palms got greased

  244. KoolKell Says:

    Banks decide who get’s loans, not the Govt.

  245. Twocents Says:

    KoolKell, and what has your leader done about it. Absolutely nothing. He knows where his bread is buttered.

  246. Raidernationdave Says:

    Scrimps RaiderLen is what they put in scrimp cocktails.

  247. Twocents Says:

    The Federal Reserve are the banks and they are the government.

  248. Just Win Baby Says:

    It wasn’t Sacramento, It was Fresno. It rocked the financial world.

  249. SR Raider Says:

    Always knew those California Raisins were a bad bunch

  250. KoolKell Says:

    The Federal Reserve dictates base interest rates.

  251. SR Raider Says:

    Right, so the government provides cheap money and backs the banks when loans go bad. Who takes the risk? Normal taxpayers

  252. Twocents Says:

    The Federal Reserve runs the country. Banksters that were put in charge in 1913. How have things gone since then?

  253. Raidernationdave Says:

    Twocents Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 7:39 pm

    The Federal Reserve are the banks and they are the government.
    ++++++++++++++++++++

    Actually the Federal Reserve is a private banking concern that is not part of the gubmint.

  254. KoolKell Says:

    0bama re-regulated the Industry so that Banks & Lenders can’t do that anymore.

  255. Hot Shot Says:

    Tired of hearing about this concussion crap.If you dont want one dont play the game.Thats what these guys get paid millions of dollars to do.Boxing hockey NFL UFC.Cant take the heat then get out of the Kitchen.

  256. Twocents Says:

    Raidernationdave, if you actually believe that, you have been duped.

  257. Seymour Bush Says:

    Twocents Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 7:36 pm

    KoolKell, the government decides who shall get loans and guarantees them with taxpayer money.
    =========================================

    Huh?

  258. Raidernationdave Says:

    Twocents Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 7:45 pm

    Raidernationdave, if you actually believe that, you have been duped.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++

    The FRB loans the Federal Government money. You’re just playing the game with their money.

  259. KoolKell Says:

    I thought the conspiracy freaks were convinced the Catholic Illuminatti we’re running the world, no?

  260. RaiderLen Says:

    Raidernationdave Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 7:39 pm
    Scrimps RaiderLen is what they put in scrimp cocktails.
    ————————
    lol Thanks Dave.

  261. Twocents Says:

    KoolKell, why do you put out this crp, do you really think it is in your best interests to screw the average man?

  262. Hot Shot Says:

    The Banks run the world period!!!!!

  263. RaiderLen Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 7:38 pm
    Banks decide who get’s loans, not the Govt.
    ——————————
    Based on Government rules and regulations.

    You said so yourself. But blamed it on one side of the isle. Research the whole deal.

  264. RaiderLen Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 7:41 pm
    The Federal Reserve dictates base interest rates.
    ————————–
    Yep, and who are “they”

  265. Raidernationdave Says:

    What to do? I’m torn between gettin’ ripped with some nasty bong hit hits or payin’ bills….what do I do?

  266. Twocents Says:

    Raidernationdave, how am I playing a game with the governments fiat currency. WTF?

  267. RaiderLen Says:

    SR Raider Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 7:43 pm
    Right, so the government provides cheap money and backs the banks when loans go bad. Who takes the risk? Normal taxpayers
    ———————————-
    Yep

  268. Raidernationdave Says:

    Mind you I am going to pay my bills with money backed by air. The remarkable thing is there is someone willing to take it.

    America…what a country!

  269. Raidernationdave Says:

    Twocents Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 7:52 pm

    Raidernationdave, how am I playing a game with the governments fiat currency. WTF?

    ++++++++++++++++++

    You’re probably one of those dumb-asses that actual thinks the “money” in your wallet belongs to you.

  270. SR Raider Says:

    Raidernationdave Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
    Mind you I am going to pay my bills with money backed by air. The remarkable thing is there is someone willing to take it.
    ===========

    Bought my 2003 Superbowl ticket that way. Money for nothing

  271. Twocents Says:

    As I get older I am moving to a place that I call no pity. I have no pity for myself and I have no pity for my fellow man. We all deserve what we get.

  272. Raidernationdave Says:

    Quick…what does the fiat currency in the US represent?

  273. RaiderLen Says:

    Raidernationdave Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
    Mind you I am going to pay my bills with money backed by air. The remarkable thing is there is someone willing to take it.

    America…what a country!
    ———————————
    Our currency is a “promise to pay”.. a form of debt.

  274. Hot Shot Says:

    http://youtu.be/NevmB7QuqCU Watch this video on the federal Reserve.

  275. SR Raider Says:

    Raidernationdave Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
    Quick…what does the fiat currency in the US represent?
    ==========

    It represents that we’re going to kick your @$$ if you don’t take this paper and give us what we want

  276. Raidernationdave Says:

    RaiderLen Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 7:58 pm

    Our currency is a “promise to pay”.. a form of debt.

    +++++++++++++++++++++

    Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding!

    That right RaiderLen.

    Don Pardo tell Raider Len what he’s won!

  277. Hardline Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 7:35 pm
    RaiderLen the Republicans lessened the regulation on the Banking Industry, that allowed financial institutions to gamble the worthless mortgages they were writing.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Democrats and Republicans alike since the Ronald Reagan presidency contributed equally to lessening of banking regulations that led to the recent downturn in housing.

    One, by 2001 most of our good manufacturing jobs and gone overseas; few people could afford to purchase a home under the regular 20% down full documented loan scenario.

    Two, the banks then got together, and decided that since number of loans were on the decline a new scheme to make more money needed to be made. Because of liberal and conservative lobbyists, Congress passed law that allowed for 0% down, no doc liar loans (know as green slime in the industry) which got the ball rolling again. Most of these loans were prefaced with a 3 yr teaser rate which didn’t cover interest on the loan amounts, and so principal actually rose for first few years of the loan.

    Three, this set up the housing boom, upon which the young turks at Lehman Brothers, at a convention at a resort in the Caribbean decided more money should be made on this green slime and therefore dreamed up and created the credit default swap instrument.

    Four, once the green slime was bundled and sold worldwide as securities, Lehman sold the risk of these bundled securities, and a new phase was entered – credit default swaps, which was entirely unregulated by any banking law in any country.

    Five, once borrowers began to default in expondential proportion on their teaser loans, those who bought the risk of same loans under credit default instruments began to lose billions then trillions of dollars worldwide.

    Hence, they became 3rd generation family members of a formerly weathly clan, crack addicts, scrounging the floorboards in the old family home for something to sell.

    America’s cash machine is defunct, its motor blown up. The jobs and cash have gone away, overseas; there is nothing to replace it. Until something comes along acting as a new motor for our cash machine, mainly manufacturing based on a total and unexpected technology with jobs staying in this country, American will be on the brink of insolvency.

  278. Raidernationdave Says:

    Ya gotta admit it’s a pretty cool system where the bank loans the govt. money and the the “people” are those one’s responsible for paying back the note.

    If that $5 bill in your pocket ain’t got your name on it then it ain’t yours dumb-ass.

  279. RaiderLen Says:

    Raidernationdave Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 8:02 pm
    Ya gotta admit it’s a pretty cool system where the bank loans the govt. money and the the “people” are those one’s responsible for paying back the note.

    If that $5 bill in your pocket ain’t got your name on it then it ain’t yours dumb-ass.
    ————————–
    The Rothschild Business model is quite the success.

    With interest. :)

  280. Raidernationdave Says:

    Hardline Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 8:01 pm

    American will be on the brink of insolvency.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++

    The US was declared insolvent with the passing of the Emergency Banking Act of 1933.

  281. Raidernationdave Says:

    RaiderLen Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 8:04 pm

    Raidernationdave Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 8:02 pm
    Ya gotta admit it’s a pretty cool system where the bank loans the govt. money and the the “people” are those one’s responsible for paying back the note.

    If that $5 bill in your pocket ain’t got your name on it then it ain’t yours dumb-ass.
    ————————–
    The Rothschild Business model is quite the success.

    With interest. :)
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Helluva gig if you can get it! The 13th Amendment got rid of “forced servitude” and in it’s place they gave the US “voluntary servitude” instead.

  282. SR Raider Says:

    The euro will crash, the dollar will wobble, and Chinese labor will become more expensive. There will be hell to pay, but the U.S. will not see the worst of it

  283. Raidernationdave Says:

    OK, I decided…..bong hits!

  284. RaiderLen Says:

    Hardline Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 8:01 pm
    KoolKell Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 7:35 pm
    RaiderLen the Republicans lessened the regulation on the Banking Industry, that allowed financial institutions to gamble the worthless mortgages they were writing.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Democrats and Republicans alike since the Ronald Reagan presidency contributed equally to lessening of banking regulations that led to the recent downturn in housing.

    One, by 2001 most of our good manufacturing jobs and gone overseas; few people could afford to purchase a home under the regular 20% down full documented loan scenario.

    Two, the banks then got together, and decided that since number of loans were on the decline a new scheme to make more money needed to be made. Because of liberal and conservative lobbyists, Congress passed law that allowed for 0% down, no doc liar loans (know as green slime in the industry) which got the ball rolling again. Most of these loans were prefaced with a 3 yr teaser rate which didn’t cover interest on the loan amounts, and so principal actually rose for first few years of the loan.

    Three, this set up the housing boom, upon which the young turks at Lehman Brothers, at a convention at a resort in the Caribbean decided more money should be made on this green slime and therefore dreamed up and created the credit default swap instrument.

    Four, once the green slime was bundled and sold worldwide as securities, Lehman sold the risk of these bundled securities, and a new phase was entered – credit default swaps, which was entirely unregulated by any banking law in any country.

    Five, once borrowers began to default in expondential proportion on their teaser loans, those who bought the risk of same loans under credit default instruments began to lose billions then trillions of dollars worldwide.

    Hence, they became 3rd generation family members of a formerly weathly clan, crack addicts, scrounging the floorboards in the old family home for something to sell.

    America’s cash machine is defunct, its motor blown up. The jobs and cash have gone away, overseas; there is nothing to replace it. Until something comes along acting as a new motor for our cash machine, mainly manufacturing based on a total and unexpected technology with jobs staying in this country, American will be on the brink of insolvency.
    —————————————————-
    Thanks for doing all the heavy lifting.

    Accurate imo.

  285. Hardline Says:

    278.Raidernationdave Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 8:02 pm
    Ya gotta admit it’s a pretty cool system where the bank loans the govt. money and the the “people” are those one’s responsible for paying back the note.

    If that $5 bill in your pocket ain’t got your name on it then it ain’t yours dumb-ass.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    RaiderDave,

    What is better is that the Federal Reserve loans private entities money, which belongs to the people, after the same private entities have created great harm to the people who have saved them.

    BTW, economic de-regulation has not changed with a war raging between lobbyists and congress members to further deregulate. No telling what they’ll think up next. They still tearing up the floorboards of the old family house looking for something to sell that slipped through the cracks.

  286. Raidernationdave Says:

    People that talk about “taxpayer dollars” or “taxpayer money” are complete idiots and know nothing about the monetary system of the United States.

    They’re like those idiots that demand their “constitutional rights!”

  287. Hot Shot Says:

    http://youtu.be/NwHdSl1ASbA Ron Paul end the fed video!!!

  288. Raidernationdave Says:

    Hardline their is nothing the Federal Reserve Bank owns that belongs to “the people.”

    “They” (the people) were just enlisted to hold the bag.

  289. Hardline Says:

    288.Raidernationdave Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 8:15 pm
    Hardline their is nothing the Federal Reserve Bank owns that belongs to “the people.”

    “They” (the people) were just enlisted to hold the bag.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Lol, true. I was speaking figuratively.

  290. RaiderLen Says:

    Raidernationdave Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 8:15 pm
    Hardline their is nothing the Federal Reserve Bank owns that belongs to “the people.”

    “They” (the people) were just enlisted to hold the bag.
    ———————————
    lol….fuuuuck…true.

    Kennedy wanted Congress to coin money, we know how that ended.

  291. KoolKell Says:

    Does the U.S Gubmit run the Oakland Raiders, too? Is that why they’ve declined over the years?

  292. RaiderLen Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 8:21 pm
    Does the U.S Gubmit run the Oakland Raiders, too? Is that why they’ve declined over the years?
    ——————————————-
    They’ve been “De Regulated”

    New Sheriff in Town and His name is REGGIE HAMMONDS….er McKENZIE!

  293. Sullivan44 Says:

    Great news. Nothing against these scouts personally, but anyone who’s been with this organization over the past decade was either part of the problem, or didn’t do enough to change it. Clean out your desks, gentlemen.

  294. Raidernationdave Says:

    RaiderLen Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 8:18 pm

    Kennedy wanted Congress to coin money, we know how that ended.
    +++++++++++++++++++

    His brains were splattered, (shoo bee, shattered, shoo bee) splattered all over Dallas, uh huh!

  295. MikieG Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 3:39 pm
    Here is what that Wonderlic question would look like:

    You just signed a 10 million dollar contract what is the first thing you do:

    A. Buy your posse gold necklaces
    B. Impregnate 4 women that will eventually sue you for all you are worth
    C. Buy 3 Mercedes worth 500K each
    D. Buy millions of dollars worth of jewelry
    E. Make some bad real estate investments
    F All of the above
    +++++++++++++++++++++

    Dear God! Funniest sh!t I have read all day!!!

  296. SR Raider Says:

    C, definitely

  297. Raidernationdave Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 8:24 pm

    Great news. Nothing against these scouts personally, but anyone who’s been with this organization over the past decade was either part of the problem, or didn’t do enough to change it. Clean out your desks, gentlemen.

    ++++++++++++++++++++

    True dat!

  298. YoungAmerican Says:

    Adam Schefter ‏ @AdamSchefter

    Former Jets VP of college scouting Joey Clinkscales is leaving New York to take a prominent front-office position with the Oakland Raiders.

  299. Sullivan44 Says:

    I’m more afraid of the Wall Street banks than the FED.

  300. Raidernationdave Says:

    Hey anybody ever watch Hardcore Pawn?

    Oh, Lord that show is fricken hilarious!

  301. Hot Shot Says:

    Ron Paul Incredible Video Twice Removed YouTube
    http://youtu.be/rH1FaLdABFM good video

  302. MikieG Says:

    Why are we getting Jets personnel? We have been whooping that a$$ for DECADES…

  303. Sullivan44 Says:

    Not only is Reggie cleaning out Davis’s henchmen, he’s pilfering scouts from the better teams in the league.

  304. Sullivan44 Says:

    Mikie G,

    The Jets have been significantly better than us in recent years.

  305. Sullivan44 Says:

    Dave, I like the old guy on Hard Core Pawn, but I think most of its staged. Just can’t buy a lot of the customer altercations. Too animated. And notice punches never actually get thrown.

  306. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I’d take Ty Lawson as a DB prospect if he wanted to give it a whurl.

    He has a gear maybe nobody else has in the NBA.

  307. Hot Shot Says:

    Ron Paul’s Greatest Debate Performance Ever http://youtu.be/1YjBoHAzhiU

  308. Sullivan44 Says:

    Hot Shot,

    At this point in time, how would a Ron Paul video be any more relevant than, say, a Newt Gingrich video?

  309. MistaBrown Says:

    And 5 years ago the same house was probably worth 800k.

    CooCooKK, you are a horses a$s.
    ______

    KoolKell Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 6:43 pm

    A home in San Ramon listed at 565,000, got 40 offers yesterday.

  310. Raidernationdave Says:

    The sch*t between the two kids is annoying but for the most part.

  311. MistaBrown Says:

    MR, did you see we foiled a plot to blow up a airliner.

    What happened to the middle east respecting pres purp lips? All that appeasement and bowing like a moron didn’t help 1 bit.

    mope & change

  312. Hot Shot Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 8:43 pm

    Hot Shot,

    At this point in time, how would a Ron Paul video be any more relevant than, say, a Newt Gingrich video?
    ==========================================================Ron Paul is for the people not for Government.

  313. Sullivan44 Says:

    Hmm, did I say that nobody would ever again try to attack America because Obbama is president?

  314. MistaBrown Says:

    Romney is going to blowout the purple lip monster like Reagan did Carter & Mondale.

    MR, you and KK can spoon as many days necessary to take the sting off.

    :)

  315. Sullivan44 Says:

    Hot Shot,

    Paul is irrelevant. He has no chance of winning the Republican primary. He’s irrelevant to the 2012 presidential election.

  316. MistaBrown Says:

    Thats exactly what you said.

    So you agree all that appeasement and bowing like a spineless pu$$y got him nowhere.

    At least we finally agree on something, ha ha
    _____

    Sullivan44 Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 8:47 pm

    Hmm, did I say that nobody would ever again try to attack America because Obbama is president?

  317. Sullivan44 Says:

    MB,

    It’s you who’ll need someone to spoon with when you realize in November that Barrack Obbama is not Jimmy Carter or Walter Mondale, and Mitt Romney is not Ronald Reagan.

  318. MistaBrown Says:

    MR, you been asking me for 2 years what Rep is going to beat purp lips. Now you have your answer.

    Pres elect Romney. Go kill yourself!
    :)

  319. Hot Shot Says:

    Open your eyes there a reason why the Government hides Ron Paul hes the only one who speaks the truth.They dont want us to have a person as president who wants to give us our rights back.

  320. Sullivan44 Says:

    Well, first off, I never said Obbama was spineless or a coward. He did kill Bin Laden, after all. I said that his race and name could build bridges to cultures in the middle east that past presidents have not been able to. I still believe that. Obbama can be tough on terrorism, which he’s proven to be, and be someone that muslim middle easterners can be less contentious to at the same time.

  321. Sullivan44 Says:

    MB, was Romney your first choice out of the Republican field?

  322. Sullivan44 Says:

    Hot Shot,

    Explain to me just how the “government hides Ron Paul”. Ron Paul is not hidden. He’s nationally known, he’s been on national television several times. Despite being known from coast to coast, and by just about everyone who will vote in this election, he didn’t crack a dent in the Republican primary. He’s irrelevant now.

  323. KoolKell Says:

    Mitt Romney, Really?

  324. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Gallup has it 47-44 Romney, as of today.

    Every poll has it one way or another within the margin of victory, with anywhere from 6-12% undecided.

    It is a toss-up presently, but plenty of time for either camp to screw it up.

  325. Sullivan44 Says:

    Heck, Ron Paul was well known in 2008! Government hides Ron Paul… lol.

  326. Hot Shot Says:

    Romney will tell you anything you want to hear to get elected.He would sell us out at the drop of a dime.Ron Paul Wants the government out of our lives and dont think they need to be running it.He wants to get rid of taxes the FED and big government and to live by the constitution if you dont want that what the hell is wrong with you.

  327. KoolKell Says:

    Ron Paul has a loyal kook following. he just doesn’t appeal outside of that.

  328. Sullivan44 Says:

    Reagan, Clinton, GW Bush, all down at one time or another in head to head polls against their eventual opponents. For all of the fake outrage cooked up by Obbama’s opposition, American voters still relate to him more than they do Romney.

  329. Sullivan44 Says:

    Hot Shot,

    Ron Paul will tell you anything you want to hear to get elected, too.

  330. Hot Shot Says:

    They keep Ron Paul out of news papers and CNN cuts out his speeches and erases youtube videos of his speeches.I know alot about this guy and the Government dont care for him.

  331. KoolKell Says:

    Romney won’t win Michagan voters. ;-)

  332. Hot Shot Says:

    Ron Paul is in it to save our rights as people.If you watch his videos thats all hes about.

  333. Just Fire Baby Says:

    It’s all going to come down to 3 states, Pennsylvania, Ohio and Florida.

    Whoever can win 2 out of those 3, will probably win the electoral.

  334. KoolKell Says:

    Watch Ron Paul videos in the dark and smoke a …………..?

  335. Sullivan44 Says:

    Hot Shot,

    Ron Paul is not “out of newspapers”. He’s in newspapers all of the time. I’ve read several articles about Ron Paul over the last 4 years, in newspapers.

  336. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Swing states will be the election. BO has a two point lead in swing states right now, again right in the margin of error, with 8% undecided.

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/election.aspx

  337. Hot Shot Says:

    Ron Paul has got way more followers than you guys think.you will see trust me.Thats why over 80% of our Military are voting Ron Paul cause they know what hes about.

  338. KoolKell Says:

    I watch Intrade odds. They have him at 59%

  339. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Thats why over 80% of our Military are voting Ron Paul cause they know what hes about.

    ****************************

    LMAO!!!!

    I will gladly make a friendly wager that he does not get 8% of the military vote, better yet 80%.

  340. KoolKell Says:

    Bank accounts in the Caymans,

  341. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Intrade odds, lol.

    That is not polling, it is wagering, and mostly European wagering at that.

  342. Sullivan44 Says:

    Hot Shot,

    Ron Paul’s no longer “in it”. He’s not “in it” to save anything at this point, other than that new found celebrity he’s enjoyed with his tea party following.

  343. Hardline Says:

    MistaBrown Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 8:48 pm
    Romney is going to blowout the purple lip monster like Reagan did Carter & Mondale.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Mista,

    So a return to primitivism will right this sinking ship, huh ?

    Romney, an equity capitalist of the worst kind, rode his father’s shirttails into corporate raiding, breaking up “inefficient” companies, selling of assests piece by piece: another 3rd generation family member from the financially ruined big house, prying up the floorboards searching for something to sell.

    Supports the war against women, scrapping the EPA, militarizing further the middle east, staying in Afghanistan, loves big government (though he pretends not)since he has been running for president forever, and is generally part of the fixture that put the country on the brink where it now stands.

    How will he save us Mista? BTW, Romney continues to say he will put us right financially but he’s never stated his plan.

    Would like to see it.

  344. Hot Shot Says:

    Sullivan44 you our the reason we get stuck with F-cked up presidents.you like giving your pay check up and seeing guys die in these bogus wars.Also why do you think we took out Sadam H gee could be all the Lithium that we took from them.Go ahead and vote for crooks.They like taking our money.

  345. KoolKell Says:

    I don’t think the Country is ready to go back to Republican economics that brought the world down, under G. Bush.

  346. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    KrappyRat, how would you know how many offers a listing gets? You haven’t stepped foot in the office in 5 years

    Silly old fool

    btw Brahs, I threw down 1.7 mil cash for the Beeech Diggity penthouse back in ‘02. Now its worth around 4. Throw in my 87 inch plasma, around 4.3.

    That’s how you represent mo money

  347. Sullivan44 Says:

    JFB,

    Reagan, Clinton, GWB, all down in head on polls against eventual opponents, at one point or another in their respective election years. The polls being close at this point only favors the incumbent, if history tells us anything.

  348. Hot Shot Says:

    Wrong!!!!Rons in it thats what the media wants you to think so you dont vote for him.Hes got more voters than the news says.

  349. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Intrade frequently got the GOP primary wrong, state-by-state.

  350. Sullivan44 Says:

    Well, Hot Shot,

    Ron Paul’s silent majority should have showed up to the primaries.

  351. Hardline Says:

    And Mista,

    Please use facts in your arguments. This is a sophisticated posting group way beyond accepting conclusionary allegations, and the use of derogatory names.

    Show us some respect, please.

  352. Sullivan44 Says:

    And, Hot Shot,

    How are you saving us from the trend of bad presidents by wasting your vote on someone who has no chance of winning?

  353. Just Fire Baby Says:

    The polls being close at this point only favors the incumbent, if history tells us anything.

    ****************************

    Wrong!!!! History says that the undecided’s rarely vote for the incumbent.

    It is a pretty well known rule, called the “Incumbent Rule”, that Bill Clinton thrived on when he won.

    http://www.pollingreport.com/incumbent.htm

  354. KoolKell Says:

    Bin Laden is Dead, General Moters is alive. The Prez will clean his clock in the debates, as well, dude’s way kool.

  355. Hot Shot Says:

    Post 352 it will in the president election not that many people vote in the primaries.

  356. Sullivan44 Says:

    Oh, I see, Ron Paul actually does have enough votes to still have a chance to be the nomination, but the media just isn’t reporting it. ok..

  357. Just Fire Baby Says:

    The polls being close at this point only favors the incumbent, if history tells us anything.

    ************************

    Do you mind referencing what history you are speaking of, or did you just make this up?

  358. Hardline Says:

    And Mista,

    BTW, ole Purple Lips, as you call him, pressed Congress to pass law to help borrowers in exchange for TARP monies receive, which Bush instituted. Under new fannie-mae rules lenders are required to offer their borrowers new and improved re-fi’s, if same borrower has no lates, good credit etc.

    Whereupon, Chase Bank, offered me a re-fi on my personal residence, 10 yr fixed at 2.8% apr fixed, with no costs, documentation, appraisal, or 1003 loan application. Of course I took it.

    Now under Romeny’s theory I should be left to rot while Romney and cronies get tax breaks, which will inspire them to create jobs.

    My question is, create jobs where ? in China ?

  359. Hot Shot Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 9:23 pm

    Oh, I see, Ron Paul actually does have enough votes to still have a chance to be the nomination, but the media just isn’t reporting it. ok.. ==========================================================Duh yeah open your ears and eyes they dont want him to win.

  360. Hardline Says:

    I am waiting for your FACTUAL answers Mista……

  361. RaiderDuck Says:

    A big problem of Romney’s is that his entire platform is “I am not 0bama.” He offers no vision and no reason to vote for him, other than he’s not the incumbent. In other words, he’s the 2012 version of John Kerry or Bob Dole.

    The only time a candidate this bland has won a general election in the media age was Bush Sr. in 1988, and HE was essentially running as Reagan’s third term.

  362. KoolKell Says:

    0bama walked into that G.I Gym in Afghanistan, pulled off his coat at hit the 3. lmao.
    He hit that Al Green tune, right on the money.
    Then he hit Bin-Laden.

    Dude’s a star.

  363. Hot Shot Says:

    Look They dont want to have to do another guy in like they did Kennedy.Ron Paul is from the same mold.Thats why they dont want him to win there will be alot Rip off artists out of work.No more fed and no more Government power over us get it now!!!

  364. Just Fire Baby Says:

    The country is about to vote on his star status, and my money says he is in for a major wake-up call.

  365. PlunkforHOF Says:

    Well, that was certainly a waste of scrolling time.. Does anyone know of any Raider blogs I might read?

  366. RaiderDuck Says:

    Hot Shot Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 9:32 pm
    Look They dont want to have to do another guy in like they did Kennedy.Ron Paul is from the same mold.Thats why they dont want him to win there will be alot Rip off artists out of work.No more fed and no more Government power over us get it now!!!

    ===============================================

    As a Progressive Libertarian myself: dude, chill. Ron Paul is NOT getting the GOP nomination. Now his son Rand might have a shot in 2016, if the social conservative nutbars can be shuffled off to the side. If you’re voting Libertarian, it’s gonna be Gary Johnson this year.

  367. Hot Shot Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 9:30 pm

    0bama walked into that G.I Gym in Afghanistan, pulled off his coat at hit the 3. lmao.
    He hit that Al Green tune, right on the money.
    Then he hit Bin-Laden.

    Dude’s a star.
    ==========================================================yeah what about the trillions of dollars he added to our national Debt that we have to pay for hes garbage.He has not done a damn thing.

  368. backstageatapuppetshow Says:

    The only thing worse than discussing politics is discussing religion….

    I though many of you were smarter than this….

    Goodnight!

  369. RaiderDuck Says:

    From Twitter:

    Adam Schefter
    Former Jets VP of college scouting Joey Clinkscales is leaving New York to take a prominent front-office position with the Oakland Raiders.

  370. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Do you think we will get any Raider players to make any type of political point/stance for the prez election?

    You got to think with the Twitter world, someone is going to make an azz of themselves.

    Maybe Veldheer, since he went to the preimminent Right-wingnut college in the country.

  371. RaiderDuck Says:

    So I’m guessing Clinkscales for Player/Personnel?

  372. Hot Shot Says:

    Anyways how about those Raiders!!!!

  373. Hot Shot Says:

    O line will be big and stout without a doubt!!!!

  374. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Now that these guys have retired, maybe we can get a quote on what they thought about the biggest draft waste in NFL history, Jamarcus Russell, before we drafted him.

    What do you think Jerry?

  375. RaiderDuck Says:

    Hot Shot Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 9:40 pm
    Anyways how about those Raiders!!!!

    Kingdon, Kebric, Karras and the elder McCloughan out.

    Clinkscales, Herock, and the younger (by 3 minutes or whatever) McKenzie in.

  376. Hot Shot Says:

    Needed to get rid of the old in with the new!!!

  377. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    LAKE SHOW HOMIES STAND UP N REPRESENT

    Got a big 4th quarter coming up, gotta “Slug the Nug” (patent pending) and move on to the next round.

    Continue the march to our next ring, wizzle fresh

    Yo, here’s a question for the blog – would you pay $2000 for a mid-level seat to a 2 Kewl 4 Skool concert IF you got a free balloon upon admittance?

    Trying to figure out a way to buy more glitter for our back stage stripper’s golden triangles

  378. Hot Shot Says:

    What up Beech Dizawg!!

  379. J R Myers Says:

    Backstageatapuppetshow Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 9:37 pm
    The only thing worse than discussing politics is discussing religion….

    I though many of you were smarter than this….

    Goodnight!
    %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%

    Yep, both are based on perception and opinion, and fuled by class desire.

    Well one difference is at least Politics deal with real issues and not folk lore and urban myths.

  380. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    Yo Hot Miggity, just chillin’ in San Diego watching the Lake Show in our suite

    Had some huge Rasta Ganja meetings today in my silk jammies that secured us some sold out shows

    Gonna head over to Moray’s Lounge soon to pull skanks, already took a Drakar Noir shower. Hope my weiner is up for going all night long

  381. Hot Shot Says:

    The Beeech Dawg Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 9:52 pm

    Yo Hot Miggity, just chillin’ in San Diego watching the Lake Show in our suite

    Had some huge Rasta Ganja meetings today in my silk jammies that secured us some sold out shows

    Gonna head over to Moray’s Lounge soon to pull skanks, already took a Drakar Noir shower. Hope my weiner is up for going all night long===============Have a great time Dizawg im out for the night.Good night Raider nation,

  382. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Anybody ever watch the Javele McGee youtube TV shows?

    Dude is pretty funny. Supposedly his younger sister is in HS and is the next Britney Griner, but even taller.

  383. RaiderDuck Says:

    Cork just gone done (I think) with an impromptu Twitter chat. He must have been friends with the scouts that got canned, because he is SERIOUSLY sore about it.

  384. Kirk Says:

    OTAs are unofficial offseason workouts for NFL players that are used as the bridge between NFL training camp and the previous season. There are usually up to a dozen OTAs for each football team. The Oakland Raiders announced that this year’s OTAs will take place on over several weeks, starting with the week of May 14th-15th, continuing on through May 17th, moving on to May 21st and 22nd, then a break again before starting up on May 24th, then concluding on June 4th, 5th, 6th, and 7th.

    The Raiders will also have their minicamps taking place during this time, with one for the rookies and another for everyone. The rookie minicamp takes place during a three-day span of May 11th, 12th and 13th; the next minicamp takes place on June 12th, 13th and 14th.

  385. aig-raiders Says:

    RaiderDuck Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 9:30 pm

    A big problem of Romney’s is that his entire platform is “I am not 0bama.” He offers no vision and no reason to vote for him, other than he’s not the incumbent. In other words, he’s the 2012 version of John Kerry or Bob Dole.

    The only time a candidate this bland has won a general election in the media age was Bush Sr. in 1988, and HE was essentially running as Reagan’s third term.
    ————-
    This blogger knows his stuff. Romney = John Kerry’s Mass twin.

  386. aig-raiders Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 7:09 pm
    Multiple offere are the rule right now in the Bay Area.
    ————-
    In San Jose, all the homes we were going after had 30+ offers. We know from first hand experience of trying to buy a home as we move back now. A lot of people are pooling their money into one big pot to buy homes for cash and flipping it. Damn investors killing the market again. It’s cheaper to buy vs renting now.

  387. aig-raiders Says:

    Jeez guys,
    We’re 5 months out and you guys worry about polls. 5 months is an eternity in politics. When you’re 1 month out, that’s when polls matter, especially after debates. The negative advertising season hasnt even started yet.

  388. J-Raider Says:

    i swear.. some of you actually think you know more than anybody else about government, politics, and being the PRESIDENT OF THE FREAKING USA??? if you guys know soooooo much more than anyone else, then why arent you in a completely different blog site for politics talk only??

    i have always read from this site for info on my favorite team, but lately you d bags are more interested in talking about the NBA or the elections rather than the waaaaay more important topic.. THE RAIDERS.

    Jerry, or Cork, if your reading this please ban EVERYONE who is waaaay off topic in this comment section. they are all clearly in the wrong website, thanks!!!! :)

  389. Hardline Says:

    388.J-Raider Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 11:04 pm
    i swear.. some of you actually think you know more than anybody else about government, politics, and being the PRESIDENT OF THE FREAKING USA??? if you guys know soooooo much more than anyone else, then why arent you in a completely different blog site for politics talk only??

    i have always read from this site for info on my favorite team, but lately you d bags are more interested in talking about the NBA or the elections rather than the waaaaay more important topic.. THE RAIDERS.

    Jerry, or Cork, if your reading this please ban EVERYONE who is waaaay off topic in this comment section. they are all clearly in the wrong website, thanks!!!!
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    J-Raider,

    Sometimes we do get off-topic. But with articles that seems sparse – a single article having over 1400 comments – sometimes we get bored. Afterall, you can’t talk Raider football 24/7/365.

    That’s the beauty of this blog.

  390. Hardline Says:

    And actually J, I never have seen a poster who thinks he/she knows “more than anybody else about government, politics, and being the PRESIDENT OF THE FREAKING USA.”

    Then again politicians aren’t the smartest guys around so it possible some of us do know more than them.

  391. RaiderSam Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 3:39 pm
    Here is what that Wonderlic question would look like:

    You just signed a 10 million dollar contract what is the first thing you do:

    A. Buy your posse gold necklaces
    B. Impregnate 4 women that will eventually sue you for all you are worth
    C. Buy 3 Mercedes worth 500K each
    D. Buy millions of dollars worth of jewelry
    E. Make some bad real estate investments
    F All of the above

    =============

    A. Listen to blogs that say i’m overrated or my team front office doesnt no crap.
    B. Laugh at rival fans go back and forth like they actually play the game.
    C. Really laugh at arm chair GM’s that rate players like they are actually scouts.
    D. Get really annoyed at people who overvalue this b.s. wonderlic test that doesnt test heart, instinct or big play timing.
    E. listen to 20 or 30 people who swear their my friends and I owe them something.

  392. RaiderSam Says:

    RaiderSam Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 11:34 pm
    Silverandblack666 Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 3:39 pm
    Here is what that Wonderlic question would look like:

    You just signed a 10 million dollar contract what is the first thing you do:

    A. Buy your posse gold necklaces
    B. Impregnate 4 women that will eventually sue you for all you are worth
    C. Buy 3 Mercedes worth 500K each
    D. Buy millions of dollars worth of jewelry
    E. Make some bad real estate investments
    F All of the above
    ===========================
    A. Listen to blogs that say i’m overrated or my team front office doesnt know crap.
    F. Listen to these wanna be’s who couldnt get to first base with women, and actually have some, none of whom would sue, because i’m not like every other man-child playing football.
    G. All of the above

  393. papertiger418 Says:

    I don’t mind if you guys go on a tirade like this on an essentially dead thread–like the one we had over the weekend. Still, we get two posts today and suddenly I’m reading a Hardball transcript.

    If you’re going to talk off-topic, at least choose entertaining subject matter. No political diatribes, please.

  394. RaiderSam Says:

    Hot Shot Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 9:36 pm
    KoolKell Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 9:30 pm

    0bama walked into that G.I Gym in Afghanistan, pulled off his coat at hit the 3. lmao.
    He hit that Al Green tune, right on the money.
    Then he hit Bin-Laden.

    Dude’s a star.
    ==========================================================yeah what about the trillions of dollars he added to our national Debt that we have to pay for hes garbage.He has not done a damn thing.

    =======================

    Hilarious that people still buy that “he got Bin Laden” line. They pulled that idiocy the same time the Birth Certificate fraud came out…then that corny ass picture of them “watching” the action when the Seal Team was operating without cameras…..some fake – ass wanna be Tom Clancy, NATO IMF/Debt pushing geo-cons…..

    Benazir Bhutto said Bin Laden was dead in 2007, then she got offed later in a car bombing

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDTEEXG3ge8

  395. RaiderSam Says:

    Papertiger418 Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 11:41 pm
    I don’t mind if you guys go on a tirade like this on an essentially dead thread–like the one we had over the weekend. Still, we get two posts today and suddenly I’m reading a Hardball transcript.

    If you’re going to talk off-topic, at least choose entertaining subject matter. No political diatribes, please.
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    I will put out some football – which rookie or 2nd year player do you think will have the most impact?
    RB Taiwan Jones
    LB Miles Burris
    CB Chemdi Chekwa
    WR Juron Criner
    DT/DE Christo Bilukidi
    S Aaron Henry (UDFA)
    LB Aaron Curry
    LB Nate Stubpar

  396. chargerschoke Says:

    Hope Joey finds us another Revis !

  397. Dakota Says:

    Zzzz

  398. ohioraider Says:

    Hardline Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 7:02 pm

    202.Twocents Says:
    May 8th, 2012 at 6:59 pm
    KoolKell is bragging that higher prices are a sign of recovery. Who in the hell wants higher prices? The sign of a vibrant, succesful economy is lower prices.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    That’s true Twocents, KK is bragging that higher prices are a sign of a strengthing economy on the upswing.

    I don’t believe that at all
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    Sons, you need to stick to posting about football. You’re embarrassing yourselves with this nonsense. Lower prices, or deflation, would lead to a massive depression. You need small incremental increases in prices to support things like, oh, raises. Increased worker productivity–which is key in capitalism–invariably leads to increases in wages and, hence, prices.

    Go and vote for Ron Paul or whomever but give it up.

  399. ohioraider Says:

    You should give it up too, Raider Sam. You’ve been mesmerized by talk radio. Read a book. Get some help.

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