Report: Raiders hire one of Jets top college scouts
By Steve Corkran
Tuesday, May 8th, 2012 at 11:49 pm in Oakland Raiders.
On the same day the Raiders announced the departure of four long-time employees in the player-personnel department, ESPN reported that Joey Clinkscales is leaving the New York Jets for a front-office position with the Raiders.
Clinkscales was the Jets’ vice president of college scouting. He coordinated their draft efforts since 2008. He is expected to work under first-year Raiders general manager Reggie McKenzie in a prominent position.
Clinkscales and McKenzie and long-time friends. He is the latest in a series of moves by McKenzie designed to overhaul the Raiders player-personnel department.
Shaun Herock came over from the Green Bay Packers. Raleigh McKenzie, Reggie’s twin brother, also was brought aboard.
Interestingly, Clinkscales said late last month that he had no intention of joining the Raiders.
“I expect to be here,” Clinkscales said in response to an ESPN.com report. “My job is a talent evaluator. I understand where the connection comes in, to be honest with you. Reggie and I have played high school and college ball together. We were in each other’s weddings. I’ve known Reggie forever. But this is where I started and this is where I plan on being.”
Clinkscales was reponsible for such draft picks as quarterback Mark Sanchez and Vernon Gholston. Last month, the Jets used a first-round pick on defensive end Quinton Coples and a second-rounder on wide receiver Stephen Hill.
The Raiders have not confirmed Clinkscales’ hire.
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May 8th, 2012 at 11:56 pm
Sanchez….Gholstons…not good.
May 9th, 2012 at 12:11 am
Hopefully, Reggie can weed out any mistakes in judgement made by Clink.
May 9th, 2012 at 12:19 am
More nepotism.
Not an upgrade over the people he’s replacing IMO.
May 9th, 2012 at 12:45 am
Raider Riff Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 12:19 am
More nepotism.
Not an upgrade over the people he’s replacing IMO.
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Except Clinkscales isn’t replacing any of those guys. He’s probably coming in as the Player Personnel Director, which we didn’t even have.
It’s just another step in becoming a normal NFL organization.
May 9th, 2012 at 12:59 am
Exactly, Duck. This is just another step in becoming a modern team. Nepotism would be Reggie hiring Winston Moss right off the bat as HC instead of going through an extended evaluation of all likely candidates.
Reggie’s not a snake-oil salesman. We can still criticize his moves but we should never mistake his intention.
May 9th, 2012 at 1:15 am
Papertiger,
Why the need to say Reggie isn’t a snake-oil salesaman?
Who implied that?
Since you seem to know so much, what is his intention?
Be careful that you are not hurting that which you seem to be attempting to protect….
May 9th, 2012 at 1:36 am
I’m referencing a recently-fired coach who wasn’t exactly the most credible of people in order to establish a much-needed contrast with our current GM.
As for my knowledge about his intentions, I trust Reggie’s motives because I believe in his character, which has been vouched for by any number of former Raiders and pretty much everyone he’s worked with in his professional career.
There’s a difference between being critical and being suspicious, between questioning Reggie’s judgement and questioning his character. Nepotism implies the latter, which would be valid when applied to someone like our former head coach or Lance. Reggie is made of sterner stuff.
May 9th, 2012 at 1:52 am
Fair enough. Well said.
May 9th, 2012 at 2:33 am
On the same day the Raiders announced the departure of four long-time employees in the player-personnel department, ESPN reported that Joey Clinkscales is leaving the New York Jets for a front-office position with the Raiders.
Clinkscales was the Jets’ vice president of college scouting. He coordinated their draft efforts since 2008. He is expected to work under first-year Raiders general manager Reggie McKenzie in a prominent position.
Clinkscales and McKenzie and long-time friends. He is the latest in a series of moves by McKenzie designed to overhaul the Raiders player-personnel department.
Shaun Herock came over from the Green Bay Packers. Raleigh McKenzie, Reggie’s twin brother, also was brought aboard.
Interestingly, Clinkscales said late last month that he had no intention of joining the Raiders.
“I expect to be here,” Clinkscales said in response to an ESPN.com report. “My job is a talent evaluator. I understand where the connection comes in, to be honest with you. Reggie and I have played high school and college ball together. We were in each other’s weddings. I’ve known Reggie forever. But this is where I started and this is where I plan on being.”
Clinkscales was reponsible for such draft picks as quarterback Mark Sanchez and Vernon Gholston. Last month, the Jets used a first-round pick on defensive end Quinton Coples and a second-rounder on wide receiver Stephen Hill.
The Raiders have not confirmed Clinkscales’ hire.
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really dude? really? thats cool. i been sayin since sanchez was eatin that dog, lets get him. this is the first step. a trio of usc qbs’ means a decade of lombardis’. i’ve told ya’ll this for years. get ova it.
May 9th, 2012 at 2:35 am
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d828f4208/article/oakland-raiders-part-ways-with-four-longtime-staff-members?module=HP11_headline_stack
May 9th, 2012 at 2:39 am
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d828f3c19/article/draft-duds-saints-rams-raiders-among-poorly-graded-teams?module=HP11_cp
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what? raidhas had a better draft grade than a c. who says that? what? cp3 and tp and the like. raidahs have a draft grade of an a. just wait, just watch, just win baby.
May 9th, 2012 at 2:43 am
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d828f712b/article/warren-sapp-ndamukong-suh-to-appear-on-new-dating-show
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a comedy dating show? really? awesome. who wants to bet it doesn’t make it past the pilot? are we really hurting this much that we need more mind pollution like this? apparently. dig it, get ova it.
May 9th, 2012 at 2:50 am
just ate my first quarter pounder. unreal. went back for three more and cant wait for the upgrade version. quarter pounder is tops on my list. anyone know if they sell quarterpounders at the oakland-alemeda coliseum? if they don’t, they should. gonna make my first appearance there this fall.
May 9th, 2012 at 2:57 am
Look at the Jets Drafts before 09 when he took over and since then. They’ve really failed a lot of draft picks over the years since he took over.
Before that they had a lot of probowl picks.
I think choosing your friends to work with you isn’t the best way to do it.
May 9th, 2012 at 5:08 am
Is it just me, or does Reggie really like white offensive lineman and linebackers? Green Bay has plenty too.
May 9th, 2012 at 5:09 am
Joey Clinks has no business being any kind of “talent evaluator” after recommending the drafts of Mark Sanchez and Vernon Gholston. Such a keen eye for talent deserves to be out of work or scouting for the UFL.
I only hope that he is put in some sort of lackey position subordinate to Shaun Herock. Nepotism, whether bro or friend rarely works for the best in business situations.
May 9th, 2012 at 5:10 am
A lot of teams would have drafted Sacnchez and Gholston.
May 9th, 2012 at 5:11 am
Scouts should be judged by their later round picks. First rounders are usually no brainers.
May 9th, 2012 at 5:13 am
We had the same guys for 40 years, that is about as much of a lackey situation to can find.
I am sure the guys were sufficient in their job, but they were also probably the biggest kiss azzes in the organization.
I don’t care if they hired Joey from the Clink, new faces were needed.
Besides, Mark Sanchez is infinitely times better than Jamarcus Russell, so that is a +1 in my eyes for Clink over the previous regime.
May 9th, 2012 at 5:14 am
The link grading the drafts on NFL.com, consistantly referred to Bergstrom as a physical, road-grader type.
I thought he was more of the athletic ZBS guy, but we shall see.
May 9th, 2012 at 5:15 am
I feel like Steve isn’t being honest in his reporting on the scouts being fired. He keeps talking about loyalty, but I get the feeling his friend or source was fired.
May 9th, 2012 at 5:29 am
If Mark Davis were to keep around his DADS guys, AGAINST the wishes of his new GM, THAT WOULD BE nepotism.
This is just cleaning house and getting some fresh minds and voices in the room.
May 9th, 2012 at 5:30 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
May 9th, 2012 at 5:30 am
Raider Riff Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 12:19 am
More nepotism.
Not an upgrade over the people he’s replacing IMO.
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Wont be able to tell for a few seasons, guys.
Could they be any worse – did you see the record from 2003-2007 – may have been the worst stretch of football in league history, and definitely in Raider History.
GOT NO PROBLEM AT ALL with the Changes….NOT ANY…I would distance myself as far away from them as possible. (you dont know about Gholston or Sanchez , was it Tannenbaum that signed off on them or Clinkscales?)
for every Gholston, there was a Darrelle Revis, Jim Leonhard, and a number of players that were very effective for the Jets. (you dont get to two AFC title games without decent players you’ve scouted) – what was our record during that stretch?
Yeah, i thought so.
May 9th, 2012 at 5:32 am
Didn’t he keep some of the scouts onboard (Crockett, etc.)?
Kept the younger guys, and sent the Medicare eligible into the sunset.
Besides, these guys operated ONE WAY for 40 years. What kind of value would they have brought to the table as a 65 year old scout, asked to do different things for the first time?
May 9th, 2012 at 5:34 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 5:08 am
Is it just me, or does Reggie really like white offensive lineman and linebackers? Green Bay has plenty too.
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Uh, its just you. Hello? Desmond Bishop, Nick Barnett, Marshall Newhouse?
c’mon, dude. just happens to be who we picked and what was available…..
May 9th, 2012 at 5:37 am
Raiderzmaverick Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 2:57 am
Look at the Jets Drafts before 09 when he took over and since then. They’ve really failed a lot of draft picks over the years since he took over.
Before that they had a lot of probowl picks.
I think choosing your friends to work with you isn’t the best way to do it.
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I just saw them kicking a$% and taking names for that 2 year stretch..and punking the Pats while doing it….
before that, they werent in any AFC playoff games under Eric Mangini…just the occasional upset of the Pats…
look for one other thing..if Rex Ryan flames out, in N.Y., he will be Oakland’s next d-coordinator……despite the foot fetish crap and goofy antics, he is a defensive mastermind.
May 9th, 2012 at 5:40 am
With DA being a defensive guy, I don’t think he would want a big personality, look at me guy as his DC like Rex Ryan.
May 9th, 2012 at 5:42 am
Last month at the pro football focus site they evaluated Draft classes from 2008 to 2010 for every team.
According to Jerry it was 2008 when Joey Clinkscales started coordinating their drafts, so he was in charge of their Scouting for those.
Here’s how the NYJ have done:
“Draft Grader: New York Jets.
Up next in our Draft Grader series are the New York Jets as we examine the job Mike Tannenbaum has done over the past four years when it comes to giving his coaches talent to work with. The Jets may be widely accepted as having one of the best rosters in the league, but has the draft been their vehicle for creating it?.
We give each pick from the 2008 and 2010 draft classes a grade between +2.0 and -2.0 (in 0.5 increments) that depends upon:
• Where they were drafted
• Their performance
• Their contribution (how many snaps their team got out of them)
• Other factors such as unforeseen injuries and conditions that could not have been accounted for
Let’s take a look at how the Jets drafted.
+2.0: You’ve just found Tom Brady in the 6th round:
They may have got better play out of a sixth-rounder than what they have from their first.
+1.5: Getting much more than you bargained for!.
They wish.
+1.0: The scouts nailed it!
Heck, they’d settle for some of these.
+0.5: Never hurts to find a solid contributor.
Dwight Lowery, S (113th overall pick in 2008): Excelled as a rookie, and while he found it hard to get on the field in year No. 2, always put forth strong performances. Rex Ryan never quite seemed sure if Lowery was a cornerback or safety, and despite playing well at both spots, he found himself traded away.
Shonn Greene, RB (65th overall pick in 2009): A tad one dimensional (okay, more than a tad), Greene has looked a talent running the ball, but struggles in all elements of the passing game. Pick would probably look better if the Jets had done a better job finding a back who truly complements him.
Matt Slauson, G (193rd overall pick in 2009): He’ll never be one of the best guards in the league, but he is a good enough player that he can start without you having to overly worry about it. Great value in the sixth.
Joe McKnight, RB (112th overall pick in 2010): While his contribution on offense (and defense) hasn’t exactly wowed us, McKnight is one of the league’s better kick returners.
John Conner, FB (139th overall pick in 2010): The Terminator had a good year with his lead blocking in 2011 and looks like a solid replacement for the Jets’ version of Tony Richardson. If you’re going to draft a fullback, that’s what he needs to be.
0.0: It could have been worse
Erik Ainge, QB (162nd overall pick in 2008): You can’t fault the jets for the multitude of personal problems that Ainge entered the league with.
Marcus Henry, WR (171st overall pick in 2008): The former sixth round pick lasted a year before being waived.
Nate Garner, G (211th overall pick in 2008): Didn’t get a chance to clear waivers and hit the Jets’ practice squad as a rookie before the Dolphins picked him up.
-0.5: That pick was not put to good use
Dustin Keller, TE (30th overall pick in 2008): If you’re going to pick up a tight end in the first, they need to be either a difference-making receiver, or the kind of complete player that can play every down. Keller isn’t either, being one of the worst blocking tight ends in the league and not becoming the reliable safety net the top tight ends are for their quarterbacks. He has upside on any given play, but spends too much time not doing anything overly constructive.
Kyle Wilson, CB (29th overall pick in 2010): Did the Jets draft Wilson to replace Antonio Cromartie or to match up with the multiple receiver sets they were facing the AFC East by putting him in the slot? Either way, it’s kind of failed in both regards with Wilson looking anything but a first round pick in his first two years in the league.
Vladimir Ducasse, T (61st overall pick in 2010): How telling is it that this former second round pick was unable to beat out the awful Wayne Hunter for the vacant right tackle spot. That’s like the Jets saying that right now Ducasse is a worse player than Hunter and that is quite scary.
-1.0: What a waste!
Mark Sanchez, QB (5th overall pick in 2009): The 2009 class was always going to depend on Sanchez and how he played and, unfortunately, he just hasn’t cut the mustard. Saving your better performances (which generally involve just avoiding mistakes rather than making a lot of plays) for the playoffs should not give Sanchez a pass as he fails to improve as a quarterback. The recent signing of Tim Tebow should indicate just how much of a flop the Sanchize has been, while his new deal simply serves to make it easier to cut him in a couple of years. The clock is ticking.
-1.5: The scouts/ coaches failed, big time!.
Not in this regard but …
-2.0: You just drafted the love child of Jamarcus Russell and Ryan Leaf!.
Vernon Gholston, DE (6th overall pick in 2008): What can you really say about this? Looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane, as Gholston earned a -12.2 grade while playing just 629 career snaps as a Jet. He is the dictionary definition of a bust.
Summary:
With just 13 picks over three years, when you don’t hit on them it really stands out.
The selections made from 2008 to 2010 are a real dark age of scouting and development as the Jets look like they’ve fluffed on all of their Day 1 picks and got minimal returns from the remains of each draft.
Though, while the Jets have done little with their drafts in recent history, earlier classes are still producing and they’ve done a good job of bringing in free agents. It’s just a shame that the one pick they really needed to hit on (Sanchez) hasn’t been able to take advantage of that.”
May 9th, 2012 at 5:44 am
RaiderSam Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 5:34 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 5:08 am
Is it just me, or does Reggie really like white offensive lineman and linebackers? Green Bay has plenty too.
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Uh, its just you. Hello? Desmond Bishop, Nick Barnett, Marshall Newhouse?
c’mon, dude. just happens to be who we picked and what was available…..
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Reggie likes hard working character guys. It would make sense that he tends to select more white players.
May 9th, 2012 at 5:46 am
Here’s the same evaluation for the Raiders (2008-2010 Drafts).
“Let’s take a look at how the Raiders drafted.
+2.0: You’ve just found Tom Brady in the 6th round.
If they had, they wouldn’t have given up the first and conditional second for Carson Palmer.
+1.5: Getting much more than you bargained for!.
They wish.
+1.0: The scouts nailed it!
Tyvon Branch, S (100th overall pick in 2008): The versatile Branch got his opportunity to start in 2009 and hasn’t looked back, picking up twice as many snaps as anyone else from the 2008 draft class. Coming off his best year where he improved his run defense while expanding his responsibilities to play in the slot, helping the Raiders’ cope with a lack of cornerbacks.
Matt Shaughnessy, DE (71st overall pick in 2009): After a good rookie year, Shaughnessy really broke out with an extremely impressive 2010 campaign. A true every-down defensive end, it was his work in run defense (which earned him the fifth-highest grade of all defensive ends) that really stood out to us. A complete DE, only injury (which curtailed his 2011) has slowed him down.
Lamarr Houston, DE (44th overall pick in 2010): Great work in the second round to find a player like Houston, plug him in at DLE and watch him wreak havoc. While he may not be a stud pass rusher, his work in run defense is stellar, ranking fifth in 2011 of all 4-3 DE’s.
Jared Veldheer, T (69th overall pick in 2010): A tough rookie year (which involved playing at center at points) led into a real breakout sophomore season where Veldheer proved he could go up against some of the best pass rushers in the league and neutralize them. Sure he got an absolute roasting by Julius Peppers, but Veldheer looks the long term solution to the Raiders’ left tackles woes.
+0.5: Never hurts to find a solid contributor.
Trevor Scott, DE (169th overall pick in 2008): After a five-sack rookie year, there was understandable excitement about Scott, though wise folks would have recognized that with just nine further hurries he wasn’t exactly generating an awful lot of pressure. Still Scott went onto get more pressure over the next two years and was actually at his most destructive when he only put in a one-sack 2010 that (because of his three hits and 19 hurries) earned him a positive grade. Coming back from injury in 2011, he didn’t look like the same player, but considering the production the Raiders got out of him, this was a win for them.
Chaz Schillens, WR (226th overall pick in 2008): Getting 1,386 snaps out of a seventh round pick over four years isn’t bad value. It’s just something of a shame Schillens always seemed to be battling injuries, but they got something from him.
Rolando McClain, LB (8th overall pick in 2010): You worry about him in coverage as he can get a bit lost, and there are some questionable off the field behaviors to concern yourself with, but McClain has made some plays for the Raiders. A good downhill player who is an effective blitzer at times, he’s not perfect but better than a lot of middle linebackers in this league.
Jacoby Ford, WR (108th overall pick in 2010): Yet to consistently show it as a receiver, Ford is the kind of kick returner that scares teams. Plenty of untapped upside to him, and he’s a unique weapon on offense because of what he can do on end arounds with a creative offensive play caller.
0.0: It could have been worse.
Darren McFadden, RB (4th overall pick in 2008): McFadden is obviously extremely talented, but the Raiders just simply haven’t seen enough of him to warrant the fourth overall pick in the draft. Capable of changing a game, McFadden is the kind of back who can turn nothing into something with his breakaway speed.
Louis Murphy, WR (124th overall pick in2009): You can’t say Murphy hasn’t been given the opportunity to succeed, but he just hasn’t done a great job of taking it with both hands.
Brandon Myers, TE (202nd overall pick in 2009): More was asked of Myers in 2011, but his poor run blocking was something of a disappointment, only overshadowed by how much of a letdown Kevin Boss proved to be.
Walter McFadden, CB (138th overall pick in 2010): Looked lost on the field as a rookie (in just 50 snaps) and was then cut a year after being drafted.
Travis Goethel, LB (190th overall pick in 2010): Had an encouraging 90-snap rookie season, but missed all of 2011 after tearing a knee ligament. Tough break.
Jeremy Ware, CB (215th overall pick in 2010): Got on the field for 118 snaps as a rookie before being cut.
Stevie Brown, S (251st overall pick in 2010): 13 special teams tackles (as well as playing on defense) wasn’t enough to ensure Brown remained on the roster a year later.
-0.5: That pick was not put to good use
Arman Shields, WR (125th overall pick in 2008): After injury problems in college, the Raiders took a flyer on him on the back of a strong combine, but all they got was a season on Injured Reserve before cutting him.
Darrius Heyward-Bey, WR (7th overall pick in 2009): Viewed as a reach at the time, DHB had two terrible years as he struggled to cope with life in the NFL. He took a big step forward in 2011, but not enough to either make you forget the early struggles or suggest he’ll ever live up to being the seventh overall pick of any draft.
Michael Mitchell, S (47th overall pick in 2009): Some players look better the more they play, some don’t. Mitchell was viewed as a massive reach at the time and after surprising everyone with an effective 217-snap contribution as a rookie (where we gave him a +8.4 grade), he’s been exposed the more he played. This culminated with a -10.4 grade in 2011 with him nowhere near cracking the starting lineup.
Slade Norris, DE (126th overall pick in 2009): A former fourth round pick, he ended up making it onto the Raiders’ practice squad as a rookie after being cut and passing through waivers. You expect more than a tackle (and two assists) on special teams for a guy drafted where he was.
Stryker Sulak, DE (199th overall pick in 2009): Being the owner of a cool name doesn’t get him a bump on his grade in the same way it didn’t stop the Raiders not signing this sixth round pick.
Bruce Campbell, T (106th overall pick in 2010): No longer with the team after being traded away, we wonder if Campbell will remember his 10 snaps on offense in Oakland fondly.
-1.0: What a waste!.
For all the criticism the Raiders get, none here.
-1.5: The scouts/ coaches failed, big time!.
… nor any here.
-2.0: You just drafted the love child of Jamarcus Russell and Ryan Leaf!
The Raiders didn’t land themselves anything resembling Russell since they actually drafted Russell.
- Summary
It’s kind of been fun over the years to laugh at the Raiders and their drafting.
But it should be noted that while they haven’t done a particularly great job with their first round picks, they’ve managed to find a number of starters who have outperformed where they were drafted.
Furthermore, you have to admire their ability to call a spade, a spade. While other teams are attached (in an almost egotistical fashion) to their draft picks, if Oakland doesn’t think the player is the best option for the club, they move on.
Of course, a new regime may change that, but it should be noted Oakland hasn’t done nearly as bad as people like to make out.”
May 9th, 2012 at 5:47 am
Sanches is clearly regressing, but he did go to two AFC championship games.
And while clearly the rest of his team carried him into the playoffs, he has played REALLY well in his playoff career.
Over 60% completion, 9-3 TD to INT ratio, 94 QB rating, 4-2 career record, ALL ROAD GAMES.
Pretty damn impressive if you ask me.
May 9th, 2012 at 5:50 am
With just 13 picks over three years, when you don’t hit on them it really stands out.
The selections made from 2008 to 2010 are a real dark age of scouting and development as the Jets look like they’ve fluffed on all of their Day 1 picks and got minimal returns from the remains of each draft.
Bob Marley Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 5:42 am
Though, while the Jets have done little with their drafts in recent history, earlier classes are still producing and they’ve done a good job of bringing in free agents. It’s just a shame that the one pick they really needed to hit on (Sanchez) hasn’t been able to take advantage of that.”
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Summary; always liked Kent McCloughan. He was a cornerback for the Raiders in the mid-60s. Awesome player. Very loyal. But these guys were also part of an organization that hasn’t had a winning season in 10 years so the status quo is not an option. I like what Reggie is doing. We need change. Keep it coming…Clinkscale, WHOEVER. McKenzie trusts the guy and lets face it, Seems like a good idea for a team that hands over their draft picks like someone handing out candy on Halloween.
May 9th, 2012 at 5:50 am
How did Walter McFadden get a 0.0?
He was awful the one game he played in, got picked on at almost a historically level for a quarter of a game, and than was cut.
May 9th, 2012 at 5:50 am
Tebow will be starting by week 6 in New York. Sanchez is going to have to open up a taco stand in Times Square.
May 9th, 2012 at 5:51 am
I’d disagree with PFF about DHB and Walter McFadden, they should have flipped spots, McFadden should have been put in the “that pick was not put to good use” category” and DHB on “it could have been worse”.
May 9th, 2012 at 5:55 am
Raider Ray Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 5:44 am
RaiderSam Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 5:34 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 5:08 am
Is it just me, or does Reggie really like white offensive lineman and linebackers? Green Bay has plenty too.
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Uh, its just you. Hello? Desmond Bishop, Nick Barnett, Marshall Newhouse?
c’mon, dude. just happens to be who we picked and what was available…..
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Reggie likes hard working character guys. It would make sense that he tends to select more white players.
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uh, yeah we picked white players, too. – you remember Stuart Schweigert, right?
where are you going with this….who was GB defensive player of the year again? CHARLES WOODSON. and before we do this “character guy crap” lest we forget off field transgressions of Johnny Jolly, AND our recently selected Pack DB Brandon Underwood……
Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, countless black character guys….lets not open that can of worms, please.
FAIL
“Al was saying….Let it go, man! Your holding back the game!”
-Eldridge Dickey (speaking on Al Davis commitment to minority players)
May 9th, 2012 at 5:57 am
Kind of funny that you are calling Ray Lewis a character guy. Didn’t he have someone murdered?
May 9th, 2012 at 5:57 am
Raider Ray Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 5:50 am
Tebow will be starting by week 6 in New York. Sanchez is going to have to open up a taco stand in Times Square.
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“Over 60% completion, 9-3 TD to INT ratio, 94 QB rating, 4-2 career record, ALL ROAD GAMES”
You saw what the Patriots did to Tebow.
EXPOSED as the fraud QB that he is…the Jets are finished…they will use Tebow like the Dolphins did Jim Jensen and the Steelers used Slash Kordell Stewart.
It WILL NOT GO DOWN like it did in Denver. Two completely different situations…Broncos had nothing to lose. This move was made to light a fire under Sanchez.
May 9th, 2012 at 5:58 am
Raider Ray Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 5:57 am
Kind of funny that you are calling Ray Lewis a character guy. Didn’t he have someone murdered?
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Kind of funny he is the greatest defensive player of this generation
and Bush had a lot of Iraqi’s murdered.
everything’s relative.
May 9th, 2012 at 5:59 am
The fact is a lot more black players get in trouble with the law than white players.
May 9th, 2012 at 5:59 am
The Raiders have not confirmed Clinkscales’ hire
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who is the guy we hired to replace John Herrera?
I sort of miss the Raiders denial to every possible rumor floated, then no response when it actually comes to fruition
May 9th, 2012 at 6:01 am
I heard Herrara is being replaced by Mark Chmura.
May 9th, 2012 at 6:03 am
Finally, they rated the Top 10 draft classes between 2008 and 2010, they have a summary for each class but I just pasted ours:
“10. Green Bay Packers (2008)
Starters Found: Jordy Nelson (WR), Jermichael Finley (TE) and Josh Sitton (G)
Contributions From: Matt Flynn (QB)
Best Pick: Josh Sitton
9. Carolina Panthers (2008)
Starters Found: Jonathan Stewart (RB), Jeff Otah (T), Charles Godfrey (S), Dan Connor (LB), Geoff Schwartz (G) and Mackenzy Bernadeau (G)
Contributions From: Gary Barnidge (TE) and Nick Hayden (DT)
Best Pick: Jonathan Stewart
8. Seattle Seahawks (2010)
Starters Found: Russell Okung (T), Earl Thomas (S), Golden Tate (WR) and Kam Chancellor (S)
Contributions From: Walter Thurmond (CB) and Anthony McCoy (TE)
Best Pick: Kam Chancellor.
7. Tennessee Titans (2009)
Starters Found: Kenny Britt (WR), Sen Derrick Marks (DT), Jared Cook (TE), Gerald McRath (LB) and Jason McCourty (CB)
Contributions From: Javon Ringer (RB)
Best Pick: Jason McCourty
6. Oakland Raiders (2010)
Starters Found: Rolando McClain (LB), Lamarr Houston (DE) and Jared Veldheer (T)
Contributions From: Jacoby Ford (WR) and Stevie Brown (S)
Best Pick: Jared Veldheer
Summary: McClain hasn’t always impressed Raider Nation, but he’s performed well enough to be a success without having the kind of impact you might want from a Top 10 overall pick. The real stars of this class come later: Veldheer proving an absolute steal in the third and Houston being a constant producer since Day 1. While Brown wasn’t a stud and was eventually released, Ford has brought with him playmaking on special teams and offense that has made a real difference.
5. Kansas City Chiefs (2010)
Starters Found: Eric Berry (S), Jon Asamoah (G), Tony Moeaki (TE) and Kendrick Lewis (S)
Contributions From: Dexter McCluster (WR) and Javier Arenas (CB)
Best Pick: Eric Berry
4. Houston Texans (2009)
Starters Found: Brian Cushing (LB), Connor Barwin (LB) and Glover Quin (S)
Contributions From: Antoine Caldwell (G), James Casey (TE), Brice McCain (CB) and Troy Nolan (S)
Best Pick: Brian Cushing
3. Kansas City Chiefs (2008)
Starters Found: Glenn Dorsey (DE), Branden Albert (T), Brandon Flowers (CB), Jamaal Charles (RB), Brandon Carr (CB) and Barry Richardson (T)
Contributions From: Brad Cottam (TE) and Will Franklin (WR)
Best Pick: Jamaal Charles.
2. New England Patriots (2010)
Starters Found: Devin McCourty (CB), Rob Gronkowski (TE), Jermaine Cunningham (DE/ OLB), Brandon Spikes (LB), Aaron Hernandez (TE) and Brandon Deadrick (DE)
Contributions From: Zoltan Mesko (P)
Best Pick: Rob Gronkowski (TE)
1. Atlanta Falcons (2008)
Starters Found: Matt Ryan (QB), Sam Baker (LT), Curtis Lofton (LB), Thomas Decoud (S) and Kroy Biermann (DE)
Contributions From: Harry Douglas (WR) and Chevis Jackson (CB).”
Best Pick: Matt Ryan
Summary: When your team isn’t very good, you need an almighty draft to turn it around. So it proved for Atlanta who went from worst in their division to the playoffs on the back of one incredible draft class that defined the Dimitroff regime. Matt Ryan being the player Atlanta hoped he would be from the outset made this class, but finding a quarterback on defense (Lofton), a solid safety (Decoud), and a man who could generate constant pressure (Biermann) all helped Atlanta have four winning seasons on the bounce.”
May 9th, 2012 at 6:04 am
And I missed erasing the Falcons summary to…
May 9th, 2012 at 6:04 am
Raider Ray Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 5:59 am
The fact is a lot more black players get in trouble with the law than white players.
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The fact is a lot of trolls spout a lot of garbage instead of backing their teams, on a Raiders board, incurring the wrath of people, and an obvious multicultural pioneering type team like the Raiders in a multi-cultural area like the Eastbay.
Cmon, lets adjust to our surroundings, lad.
I give a f$%k about some statistics, if he’s hiring white players GOOD FOR HIM. La-de-da
as long as they win.
RAIDER NATION! *AHMD
(all haters must die)
May 9th, 2012 at 6:07 am
People put too much emphasis on off-the-field stuff as it pertains to one’s “high-character” status a player.
I think it is more of lockerroom character. Ray Lewis was a thug, who used his vehicle as the getaway for his buddies who just killed someone, than lied to the police. Scumbag moves. But never was his committment to his teammates and lockerroom ever in question.
Compare that to Stan Routt, who by all accounts is a clean-cut, never in trouble dude. The Reggie had no place for him, because while he may be “high-character” off-the-field, he didn’t seem to fit into The Reggie’s “high-character, football loving” lockerroom.
May 9th, 2012 at 6:08 am
all haters must die
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@ Sam
I live in Missouri, am surrounded by Raider haters (Chief fans)
plenty of them in my wife’s family. plus a lot of my good friends. you gotta realize this is a friggin SPORT
there are more important things in life. calm down a bit, k?
May 9th, 2012 at 6:09 am
Summary: When your team isn’t very good, you need an almighty draft to turn it around. So it proved for Atlanta who went from worst in their division to the playoffs on the back of one incredible draft class that defined the Dimitroff regime. Matt Ryan being the player Atlanta hoped he would be from the outset made this class, but finding a quarterback on defense (Lofton), a solid safety (Decoud), and a man who could generate constant pressure (Biermann) all helped Atlanta have four winning seasons on the bounce.”
Hindsight is 20-20
the factors involving ultimate success have ALWAYS BEEN
Quarterback first – Rothlisberger, Brady all have multiple rings
Defense second – Steelers among the top defenses
look at the Patriot drafts – they never really hit, but they were able to get servicable players that the team dynamic
the Steelers were able to get clear, defensive gems, but had one of the greatest defensive minds of this generation; Dick LeBeau, with the perfect picks to execute that defense.
Raiders are pretty much thrown together (led by free agent QBs Brees-Warner) the way the Saints of 2008 were (primarily an offensive team) or the Cardinals of 2009 (primarily an offensive team) – both teams had to take chances and play on the edge and have a little luck to win out and both teams were 1-0 and 0-1 in their SB appearanes
May 9th, 2012 at 6:10 am
Contributions from Stevie Brown???
I do enjoy their lofty praise of Rolando though!!!
May 9th, 2012 at 6:12 am
Also, my best friend growing up in Cali is a Charger fan.
makes for good trash talk. that is all
some folks act like this is WW2 or something.
we are fans. gimme a break
May 9th, 2012 at 6:15 am
How about Javele McGee??
LMAO….you Laker fans let a guy whose only tattoo is a fake mustache on the inside of his finger (so he can put over his lip for humor sake) dominate you on your homecourt, and have to use more minutes on those old knee’s of yours.
Javele fkn McGee……too funny
May 9th, 2012 at 6:15 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 6:07 am
People put too much emphasis on off-the-field stuff as it pertains to one’s “high-character” status a player.
But never was his committment to his teammates and lockerroom ever in question.
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EXACTLY. I mean, if there was a way to channel that dynamic and leadership and physicality and football instinct of him and Ed Reed into McClain and Huff, we’d be in the top 6 in defense every freaking year
you watch this video and tell me if this isnt a freaking force of nature….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_2aFfsPPhg
simply magnificent…glorious player playing the game like the dreams of conquerers and despots…. I look back in those years of losses as the worst and lowest point in Raiders history….it was a shame.
May 9th, 2012 at 6:16 am
I heard Herrara is being replaced by Mark Chmura.
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@ Ray
On April 8, 2000 Chmura was accused of sexually assaulting the Waukesha Catholic Memorial High School-attending, 17-year-old babysitter of his children. Chmura was tried but found not guilty of all charges. Two days after being acquitted of child enticement and third-degree sexual assault, Chmura acknowledged that his behavior at a post-prom party “wasn’t something a married man should do.”
Chmura doesn’t sound like a “choir boy” – doubt Reggie is interested
May 9th, 2012 at 6:17 am
By the way, I’m ok with letting the older scouts go, maybe we’ll get better people, maybe not, but that’s Reggie’s call now, he’s going to live or die with his decisions so he might as well bring in the guys he shares a vision with, at least I suppose he does.
But for what it’s worth, I would like to thank those scouts for their contributions.
May 9th, 2012 at 6:18 am
Wait, JFB…how do we as fans let someone dominate? Upset as I was, well…at least we get Artest back for game one which will be huge!
May 9th, 2012 at 6:18 am
simply magnificent…glorious player playing the game like the dreams of conquerers and despots….
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I can’t clink the link on work laptop.
Is it a clip of Jamarcus Russell?
May 9th, 2012 at 6:19 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 6:12 am
Also, my best friend growing up in Cali is a Charger fan.
makes for good trash talk. that is all
some folks act like this is WW2 or something.
we are fans. gimme a break
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No worries, we go back and forth all the time…it gets hectic, but no harm no foul. WW2? You might want to update, that!!! LOL … try “Modern Warfare; Call of Duty”
We just have fun with it, but this thing gets serious at times….we got Charger fans and Raider fan buddies down in LaJolla…its all good….until game day. LOL
May 9th, 2012 at 6:19 am
…how do we as fans let someone dominate?
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Relatively speaking, that is.
May 9th, 2012 at 6:20 am
Spurs & Thunder swept the competition.
Lakers have already dropped 2 to the Nuggets??
Me thinks the Lakers will win tomorrow night, but not by much. Then get swept in RD2
May 9th, 2012 at 6:21 am
60.RaiderRockstar Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 6:20 am
Spurs & Thunder swept the competition.
Lakers have already dropped 2 to the Nuggets??
Me thinks the Lakers will win tomorrow night, but not by much. Then get swept in RD2
Maybe, but give LA some credit…with Artest back, it will go to 6!
May 9th, 2012 at 6:22 am
hopefully the Clippers & Heat will wrap things up tonight.
May 9th, 2012 at 6:24 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
Contributions from Stevie Brown???
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How many 7th rounders make a Roster and actually see the field? Brown did play some and provided ST’s help, isn’t that what most 7th round picks are expected to do? he’s still in the League and played 8 games for Indy last year, now he’s with the NYG.
May 9th, 2012 at 6:25 am
Hwnrdr Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 6:21 am
60.RaiderRockstar Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 6:20 am
Spurs & Thunder swept the competition.
Lakers have already dropped 2 to the Nuggets??
Me thinks the Lakers will win tomorrow night, but not by much. Then get swept in RD2
Maybe, but give LA some credit…with Artest back, it will go to 6!
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My prediction is Thunder v. Heat in the finals…Lakers will not make it out…they are not in championship mode and their outside shooting is horrible.
May 9th, 2012 at 6:27 am
with Artest back, it will go to 6!
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Artest is perhaps the most OVERRATED defensive player in the NBA.
I’d say he’s good (not great) defensively and average offensively – still one of the Lake Show’s better players, but has no discipline
boneheaded fouls & cheap shots hurt his own team more than the opponents. If he’s guarding me, i’m doing everything I can to get in that guy’s head. short fuse. another one of those athlete’s with a 2 cent brain, like Vince Young
May 9th, 2012 at 6:31 am
Yes, but you can’t deny that he had a good year this year! Not the best, but good.
And as a Laker fan, yes, I agree, it will tough for them to make it to the Finals, and I wasn’t expecting much this year. However, I wasn’t especting Bynum to go beast mode either! We shall see! Like I said before, I’m with them until their final buzzer!
May 9th, 2012 at 6:36 am
Anyways…props to Brandon Inge!
Grand Slam in the 9th to win the game 7-3!!!
May 9th, 2012 at 6:36 am
Hwnrdr Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 6:31 am
Yes, but you can’t deny that he had a good year this year! Not the best, but good.
And as a Laker fan, yes, I agree, it will tough for them to make it to the Finals, and I wasn’t expecting much this year. However, I wasn’t especting Bynum to go beast mode either! We shall see! Like I said before, I’m with them until their final buzzer!
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Hwnrdr, did you think Stern just gave the Clips the division when he broke up that initial trade that wouldve sent Chris Paul to the Lakers? Imagine Paul-Bryant-Gasol-Bynum i mean, that was it, it came down to that dude. As it is now, the Lakers better get ready to pony up to get Dwight Howard in free agency next season…
May 9th, 2012 at 6:37 am
next year will be Bynum’s last with the Lakers [if they pick up his team option, they'll have to pay him over $16 million]
2013/2014 = UFA
May 9th, 2012 at 6:46 am
Joey Clinkscales, Shaun Herock & Raleigh McKenzie
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Am I the only one who thinks these were good hires?
May 9th, 2012 at 6:50 am
Sam…that was one of those WTF things in the offseason…however, Cuban cried and Stern acted on it. It is what it is, but yeah…with Paul in the lineup, it probably would have been hard to stop!
May 9th, 2012 at 6:53 am
Calvin Branch
Zack Crockett
Mickey Marvin
David McCloughan
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I wouldn’t be upset if Reggie told these other 4 scouts to kick rocks
I think Marvin has the best chance to stick, as he played college ball at Tennessee (like Reggie) and was actually Reggie’s LA Raider teammate for 3 seasons 85′ – 88′ .
May 9th, 2012 at 7:03 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
Joey Clinkscales, Shaun Herock & Raleigh McKenzie
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Am I the only one who thinks these were good hires?
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Herock and Clinkscales are very solid, they have been scouting for at least 15 years with GB and NYJ, they’ll hit and miss like everyone else but at least they’re Pros and know what they are doing.
Raleigh is unknown, no previous experience so no one can tell about him.
May 9th, 2012 at 7:04 am
Well, Branch gets credited for DWow! But, if he cleans house, it’s Reggie’s era!
May 9th, 2012 at 7:04 am
Does anyone know what the twin will be?
May 9th, 2012 at 7:05 am
GOOD MORNING NATION !!!!
May 9th, 2012 at 7:08 am
hwnrdr Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 7:04 am
Does anyone know what the twin will be?
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used for re-placement parts ???
May 9th, 2012 at 7:11 am
77.R8ER MIKE Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 7:08 am
hwnrdr Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 7:04 am
Does anyone know what the twin will be?
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used for re-placement parts ???
LMAO! That’s sick, Mike…but still funny!
May 9th, 2012 at 7:12 am
Why is everyone reading this and automatically assume that 1. Clink was totally in charge of every player the Jets drafted and 2. that he will be totally in charge of every player WE draft? Someone said this is a downgrade from our scouting department… the same scouting department that drafted gems like Russell, Gallery, McClain and DHB in the top 10. Sure Al Davis made the calls, but don’t you think its possible that OTHER people in the Jets organization overrode Clinks opinion on certain players and took them anyways?
Cork has been whining for days on Twitter about loyalty being dead in this org because we got rid of the scouting department (which pretty much EVERY new regime does fyi). Who cares about loyalty. Loyalty has gotten us to being one of the laughing stocks of the league for the better part of the last 30 years. Why SHOULD Reggie keep anyone involved in the organization that has been reduced to nothing more than a perennial joke.
May 9th, 2012 at 7:12 am
DMo17 had 33 catches in 13 games [10 starts] last year.
Good for 618 yards & 5 TD’s
not bad for any rookie, especially a 5th rounder
However – I’m not gonna sit here and say this kid will be a Pro Bowler or even #1 WR in 2012. the jury is still out, but he was a welcome surprise
Hope we got another late round steal in Criner!!
May 9th, 2012 at 7:12 am
I’m all for bringing in new scouts. But hiring his twin brother is pure nepotism. And then he hires his longtime friend, and let’s face it the jets don’t blow my socks with personnel decisions they have made.
May 9th, 2012 at 7:15 am
I know it’s early, but i’m going to go ahead and nominate bcz’s comment #79 for POST OF THE DAY !!!
see, we don’t disagree on everything
May 9th, 2012 at 7:15 am
A look at the NYJ draft team where Clinkscales comes from:
“Inside the New York Jets’ draft war room with GM Mike Tannenbaum & his inner circle.
BY MANISH MEHTA
DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER
Saturday, April 23, 2011
Inside a second-floor, windowless room, Mike Tannenbaum turned to the men at the white conference table for help.
On a Sunday afternoon two years ago, the Jets general manager was stumped. When Gang Green was on the clock in the sixth round of the 2009 NFL draft, a place typically filled with spirited debate fell silent.
Five minutes. That’s all the Jets had. Five minutes to punctuate a draft that had already included monster trades for quarterback Mark Sanchez and running back Shonn Greene.
The small group inside the war room decided to take a hurried look at video clips of three players.
The first guy we looked at was awful,” Tannenbaum remembers. “The second guy we looked at was worse.”
The final player’s video package never made it into the DVD player.
“The reason we took the third guy is that we didn’t have enough time to watch the tape,” Tannenbaum admits.
Two years later, Matt Slauson, the 193rd pick of the draft, is a starter for one of the best offensive lines in the league.
Through a little bit of luck and plenty of preparation, the Jets have become one of the elite drafting teams in the NFL.
For all of Gang Green’s bravado on the field, the difference makers on draft day have been unflashy for the better part of a decade, stars in the shadows for a franchise that has thrust itself into the spotlight.
They are Tannenbaum’s inner circle, five former college and NFL players with defined roles, who have anonymously helped stockpile talent for a team that has reached two consecutive AFC Championship Games.
From the methodical point man who runs 12-hour meetings from sunrise to sunset to the experienced voice of reason with a closet filled with five-subject spiral notebooks, they are the heartbeat of the Jets’ war room: vice president of college scouting Joey Clinkscales, senior personnel executive (and former GM) Terry Bradway, assistant GM Scott Cohen, assistant director of player personnel JoJo Wooden and assistant director of college scouting Michael Davis.
They struck gold with Darrelle Revis, D’Brickashaw Ferguson, Nick Mangold, David Harris and Sanchez.
They struck out with Vernon Gholston.
“We’ve all been right and we’ve all been wrong,” Tannenbaum says.
“Everybody’s DNA is on all the player reports. There’s no I-told-you-so’s or second guessing.”
The path to the draft begins at a country-club resort outside of Naples, Fla., in late May, where Wooden, the soft-spoken former Syracuse linebacker who didn’t make it out of the Cardinals’ training camp in 1993, has a penchant for showing up at just the right moment.
“We’ll see JoJo when it’s time to golf,” Clinkscales cracks.
Less than a month after the 2010 draft, Tannenbaum’s team started preparations for the draft that begins Thursday night.
The Jets, who have six picks beginning with the 30th overall, rely on National Football Scouting, an information exchange service that shares preliminary reports on players entering their senior season with 19 NFL clubs.
Clinkscales, whose three-year NFL career as a wide receiver for the Steelers and Buccaneers in the late ’80s was curtailed by injuries, started with a database of 1,259 college players before beginning his trimming process. He gave the NFS reports to the Jets’ eight regional scouts in May for further evaluations that are due after the college season.
By December, the Jets streamline the list to 500 players. Clinkscales, 47, also set up a cross-check system by position for players he believes will be drafted in the first three rounds. Cohen, a former wide receiver and pitcher at Division III Dickinson College in Pennsylvania, is a cross-check staple for skill positions.
In the past 11 months, the scouting department interviewed more than 300 players and produced 5,552 reports from 253 schools that include detailed breakdowns in 12 categories.
It’s a meticulous set of standards for an organization that has made an NFL-low 17 draft picks in the past four years. After the draft, the information will be transferred to the pro personnel department to keep in a database for two years.
“Although we’re evaluating guys who likely won’t be drafted by us,” Wooden, 41, says, “it doesn’t mean they won’t be here at the start of the season, during the season or after the season.”
In December, Clinkscales cuts the 500-player draft board in half. One half is called the “Back Board,” a list of approximately 250 players the Jets won’t target in the draft. Tannenbaum and Rex Ryan will likely never see that board.
Long after Davis starred as the only wideout in Division II Virginia State’s Wing-T offense in the mid-’80s, the head of the talent-rich Southeast region has provided Clinkscales with thorough background information for years on prospects to give a fuller picture. He’s thrived with a keen eye from the day Bill Parcells hired him 15 years ago and sent him on a three-week initiation roadtrip through seven states with one clear task: “Find me some players.”
“They pay us for our opinion and our opinion only,” says Davis, the ultimate straight shooter. “You can only speak for what you see.”
The copious note taker is the compass.
Bradway, who preceded Tannenbaum as Jets GM from 2001-05, has chronicled his 26 years of draft experience in more than 60 spiral notebooks. When the inner circle gathered in Florham Park in February a week after the Jets’ AFC Championship Game loss, Bradway made sure the organization’s draft philosophy wasn’t lost during the initial stacking of the board.
Clinkscales began his February meeting at 7 a.m. sharp before the draft team left for the scouting combine in Indianapolis. For 12 hours, they ranked players based on the Jets’ alphanumerical grading system compiled in the scouts’ reports.
For example, if a player has a medical issue or is projected to switch positions, he would recieve a corresponding letter (though the Jets would not reveal what those letters are) followed by a numerical ranking based on their football skill set on a scale of 1 to 9. The Jets rarely give out anything above a 7.99. They’ll eventually set two draft boards to be used in the war room on draft day: 1) Positional and 2) Round-by-Round, which is divided into 1, 1-2, 2, 2-3, 3, 3-4, 4, 4-5 and 6-7.
Before the combine, each draftable player had five or six reports. Early-round targets have as many as nine evaluations apiece after the combine, pro-day workouts and individual meetings, including 30 allowable out-of-town visits in the first week in April.
The February draft board included reports only from area scouts, cross-checks and Senior Bowl/East-West game reports. The pre-combine grades won’t be radically different from the adjusted grades in April.
“The (pre-combine score) is the purest grade you could have, because it’s the grade of him playing football,” the 55-year-old Bradway says. “No workouts, no interviews, no medical.”
Cohen and Wooden spend the bulk of their time on advance scouting of opponents during the Jets’ season before assuming larger draft roles in February. Cohen’s responsibility involves gathering as much intelligence on teams’ needs and interests to determine whether the Jets can navigate up or down the draft order.
He’ll track private workouts by teams and dissect rosters before offering scenarios and suggestions to Tannenbaum to gauge how many slots he can safely move for draft-day trades.
“A lot of teams will put smoke screens out there and are harder to read than others,” Cohen says.
Wooden, the “most pure and natural evaluator,” according to Tannenbaum, links a current NFL player to each prospect to give the brain trust an idea of what the college player could become in the years to come.
We do a lot of great things, but until you win the championship, you can’t write the book,” Bradway says. “Our book’s pretty good, but maybe we can’t publish it yet.”
Tannenbaum asks every prospect he meets the same question: Tell me something good you’ve done for someone else in the last seven days.
He asks his draft team that question too at random moments. He swears it came in handy two years ago when he landed his franchise quarterback.
The night before the 2009 draft, Tannenbaum had the framework in place for a trade with the Browns that would move the Jets up to the No. 5 pick to get Sanchez. After the Chiefs selected defensive end Tyson Jackson with the No. 3 pick, only the Seahawks stood in the way.
“I was scared to death that Seattle was going to take Sanchez,” Tannenbaum says.
So, the superstitious man in charge issued a directive to his inner circle: “Wherever you were standing when Kansas City made the pick, stand in that exact same spot!” Tannenbaum told everyone in the war room that day. “And think of something good you’ve done for someone else.”
Clinkscales, Bradway, Cohen, Wooden and Davis froze for 10 minutes. When the Seahawks chose linebacker Aaron Curry, they exhaled and executed the blockbuster deal.
It highlighted the organization’s quality-over-quanity mind-set that has given them a smaller margin for error than rivals such as the Patriots, who routinely stockpile draft choices.
“You try to find the true difference-makers in our sport,” Tannenbaum says. “You can find replaceable parts throughout the year, but true difference-makers are tremendous nuggets. If you have that opportunity, go get one.”
They invest countless hours each year only to make a handful of picks. The brain trust will spend the next few days fine-tuning the boards with three reviews with coach Ryan.
But the discussion never really stops.
“I want good debate,” Tannenbaum says of having relatively few people in the war room. “I trust the people in there. I don’t want ancillary B.S. that’s not going to get us to where we need to go.”
When the final boards are set Wednesday afternoon, Tannenbaum will work the phones for a few more hours. “You know me,” he says. “I’m a dealmaker by nature. I’ll certainly look into that. I promise you.”
In the end, he knows he’ll be perceived as the genius or the fool even though the efforts by the five people he trusts the most make all the difference.
They’ve shared his successes and failures for the better part of a decade. They’re all husbands and fathers like him. Their fingerprints on every draft are everywhere. They all work too hard.”
May 9th, 2012 at 7:15 am
80.RaiderRockstar Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 7:12 am
DMo17 had 33 catches in 13 games [10 starts] last year.
Good for 618 yards & 5 TD’s
not bad for any rookie, especially a 5th rounder
However – I’m not gonna sit here and say this kid will be a Pro Bowler or even #1 WR in 2012. the jury is still out, but he was a welcome surprise
Hope we got another late round steal in Criner!!
That is what I am banking on, Rockstar! I guess a poosible good replacement for Hagan…uggghh! Darn you Hue!
May 9th, 2012 at 7:16 am
82.RaiderRockstar Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 7:15 am
I know it’s early, but i’m going to go ahead and nominate bcz’s comment #79 for POST OF THE DAY !!!
see, we don’t disagree on everything
Co-sign!
May 9th, 2012 at 7:23 am
At least Clinky received consideration for a GM spot back in January:
“The Jets have granted permission to the St. Louis Rams to interview Vice President of College Scouting Joey Clinkscales for their vacant general manager job, a source confirmed.
Clinkscales finished his 17th season with the Jets and fourth as the VP of College Scouting.
Clinkscales oversees the organization’s scouting operation. All regional scouts report to him as the Jets prepare their annual draft plan.”
May 9th, 2012 at 7:23 am
funny that everybody harps on Criner due to lack of speed. I don’t care about 40 times, have you seen this kid play?
He has football speed, which is all that matters. He’s not going to be caught from behind by D-Liners or LB’s!
RRS requirements for WR: can you catch? run crisp routes? secure the football? shy away from contact?
As long as he catches everything thrown his way, runs good routes and doesn’t have alligater arms i’m good.
drops, fumbles & route miscues are inexcusable. Little room for error there. speed is the least of my concerns
May 9th, 2012 at 7:24 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 7:23 am
funny that everybody harps on Criner due to lack of speed. I don’t care about 40 times, have you seen this kid play?
He has football speed, which is all that matters. He’s not going to be caught from behind by D-Liners or LB’s!
RRS requirements for WR: can you catch? run crisp routes? secure the football? shy away from contact?
As long as he catches everything thrown his way, runs good routes and doesn’t have alligater arms i’m good.
drops, fumbles & route miscues are inexcusable. Little room for error there. speed is the least of my concerns
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Looks like a Marques Colston-type receiver…
May 9th, 2012 at 7:26 am
After reading about Clinkscales and how close he was with NYJ Management, it’s kind of weird that he’s making a lateral move to Oakland, maybe Tannenbaum is feeling the heat for their bad drafting lately and decided to sacrifice Clink.
May 9th, 2012 at 7:27 am
WTF Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 7:12 am
I’m all for bringing in new scouts. But hiring his twin brother is pure nepotism. And then he hires his longtime friend, and let’s face it the jets don’t blow my socks with personnel decisions they have made.
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Did Al Davis blow your socks off with the personnel decisions he made? that Gruden to the Bucs one was pretty awesome?
How about Randy Moss?
Warren Sapp?
and of course MeAngelo Hall for a 2nd rounder, then dealing him away right during the season when the accelerators in his contract became guaranteed….
May 9th, 2012 at 7:28 am
You know, through life, there is always people that you have to say goodbye to, and that doesn’t necessarily mean a permanant goodbye! As you go through your own journey of climbing your own ladder of success, there will be a few people that you MUST part ways with, but can always keep them in the back burner. Loyal or not, not everyone is going to make you successful. They could have been in the past, but may not be moving forward! We always thank them and move on!
This is what Reggie is doing as he moves forward with what he thinks will make the Raiders successful again! It may succeed, it may fail, the thing is, you have to stick by your decisions in life and not look back! In Reggie I will trust until said so otherwise! And even then, at least he is NOT unfireable!
May 9th, 2012 at 7:29 am
Let’s be fair here, Herock and Clinkscales are qualified people in the scouting world.
May 9th, 2012 at 7:30 am
Later.
May 9th, 2012 at 7:34 am
and let’s face it the jets don’t blow my socks with personnel decisions they have made.
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Clink was in charge of COLLEGE scouting. He had no hand in any other personal acquisitions. That was Tannenbaum and Rex.
The Jets went to 2 consecutive championship games, and had a mediocre season last year, which had a lot more to do with the questionable free agent acquisitions and lack of team chemistry than how they drafted.
May 9th, 2012 at 7:37 am
And so what if Reggie hired his brother. It isn’t as if Raleigh isn’t qualified, he played NFL ball for 15 years. He also worked in the personal department for the Redskins. Nepotism to me would be hiring his brother who was an out of work construction worker or something. Rallo has plenty of experience in the NFL to be able to do the job, and if he has the character of Reg why WOULDN’T you want to bring a guy like that in?
May 9th, 2012 at 7:41 am
@ hwnrdr
If i’m Mark Davis, I’m not firing Reggie at all. It’s not even a thought in my mind, unless he harps on Davis himself or possibly Trask. He signed a 5-year contract, right?
It will probably be 3 years before we really get to see Reggie’s team. he inherited a mess. Had almost no draft picks and no cash for FA’s as a ROOKIE GM. Had to release a few starters just to get under the cap and restructure a few other key players. bringing in vets at a 1-year bargain rate. most of the draft is just depth or system fits.
Hired a ROOKIE HC & DC. We may not be Super Bowl champs in 2012, lets be honest. For the most part, this is still Al Davis’ team being managed & coached up by a different staff. Not every player will make a successful transition. I expect heavy casualties next offseason and we’re already down 2 draft picks.
Reggie gets a free pass for 2 years, as long as there isn’t some scandal or personality disorder. It would have to be something major, like Bountygate. I think it helps to surround himself with qualified scouts like Joey Clinkscales, Shaun Herock, etc. They will help him build this team and set us up for future success
May 9th, 2012 at 7:44 am
I agree with Bcz about Raleigh.
It’s not like he is Billy Carter or Roger Clinton here.
May 9th, 2012 at 7:45 am
Yes, that is what I am saying…give him 3 years to see where this team goes! Like someone posted here before, by 2013, we may not know who the players are anymore…but if it works, i’m all for it!
May 9th, 2012 at 7:51 am
Get those old fks to the home. Its bingo nite. Time for new blood
May 9th, 2012 at 7:52 am
@ bcz
Reggie’s bro is WAY more qualified to be a part of our scouting staff than guys like Calvin Branch & Zack Crockett when Al Davis hired them. Now Raider fans would p1ss & moan if those two are shown the door. It’s the nature of this business. You hire guys that you trust and get along with. Guys who have been there, done that. Raleigh being in the league 17 years as a former Super Bowl champ and was a high school coach. People just see special ed teacher and jump to conclusions. My mom was a Special Ed Teacher and let me tell you that is no easy task. Takes a patient, caring individual to take that job and it pays basically nothing
May 9th, 2012 at 7:53 am
96. Agreed. The world will end long before we’re contenders..
May 9th, 2012 at 7:59 am
The world will end long before we’re contenders
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@Mark
the Raiders will win another championship before the Lakers do
May 9th, 2012 at 7:59 am
Marks Hair Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 7:53 am
96. Agreed. The world will end long before we’re contenders..
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Well, start making plans, packing bags and making peace with your God, because Dennis Allen is building a winner here in Oakland.
May 9th, 2012 at 8:00 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 7:59 am
The world will end long before we’re contenders
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That’s the Golden State Warriors line…..
May 9th, 2012 at 8:00 am
Change is good, it is apperant that RM is bringing in “HIS” guys. My main concern, and time will tell, is that he seems to be bringing in too many “CHUMMIE BUDDIES” from his “BOYHOOD” like he is “taking care of them” as opposed going out and getting the very best he can get, including keeping some of the employees that have done a good job for years. Some things have become obvious. I just hope it works out.
May 9th, 2012 at 8:00 am
great the guy that picked mark sanchez…
May 9th, 2012 at 8:01 am
102.RaiderRockstar Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 7:59 am
The world will end long before we’re contenders
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@Mark
the Raiders will win another championship before the Lakers do
Wow…I say it will be consecutive!
May 9th, 2012 at 8:02 am
People forget that Davis didn’t always own the Raiders. At one time he was the new GM here and about 4 decades ago he brought his own guys in just like Reggie is doing because that’s what GMs do. The fact that those guys he brought in 40 years ago were still here when Reg got here may have been part of the overall problem in Oakland. Get over it.
May 9th, 2012 at 8:04 am
Raleigh McKenzie played 17 seasons in the NFL, including 10 years with the Washington Redskins, and won two Super Bowl rings. He works as an elementary school special education teacher as well as a high school football coach in Herndon, Va.
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Heard he’s gonna be coaching Raiders Pee-Wee league and will also be a finals judge for the Raiderette’s auditions!!
May 9th, 2012 at 8:08 am
Teaching special Ed requires uncanny patience.
Not sure how that helps a whole lot but, Mr. Raleigh McKenzie sounds like a standup dude that is probably a quality hire for just about any organization in any industry.
May 9th, 2012 at 8:17 am
106.Al_is_theraiders Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 8:00 am
great the guy that picked mark sanchez…
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How do you know? Did you read his scouting report on Sanchez? How do you know he didn’t give Sanchez a negative grade, but Tannenbaum and Ryan picked him anyways. Besides, he is replacing the guy that picked Jamarcus Russell… I call that an upgrade.
May 9th, 2012 at 8:22 am
Chargers General Manager A.J. Smith says that while the money for rookies has changed, “I don’t believe anything on our end will be different regarding contracts. We offer outstanding contracts and always have. Some agents, I know, don’t particularly like our structure in contracts. We are very consistent in what we do and will continue that way. I hope all our players are in on time.”
May AJ Smith remain the Chargers GM for many more years.
May 9th, 2012 at 8:28 am
I see a lot of uninformed posters with negative feedback on Clinkscales. Dont know where youre getting the info from, but Clink actually made his name building through the draft. It was the 06 draft that was the foundation for the current Jets run, and he played a major hand in that draft, which prompted Tannenbaum to promote him. The Jets have drafted a lot of their starters. Clinkscales, to me, is a lesser version of McKenzie. Lets say Reggie was to Ted Thompson as Clink was to Tannenbaum. I think this is a huge addition and cant wait to see how next years draft plays out, with more picks available. Reggie is already a master drafter and it only helps having Clinks along.
May 9th, 2012 at 8:28 am
I think you will see these teams owners and GM’s stick to a simple slotting contract talks, that they are effectively trying to rid rookies of needing agents.
Basically, any guy that isn’t a top 20 pick, especially a mid round pick, can pay legal zoom about $50 and not need an agent.
May 9th, 2012 at 8:31 am
I don’t see the beef about Mark Sanchez. I don’t think he’s a bad player. Certainly better than anything we’ve had as a starting QB for the past 10 years since Rich Gannon (2002) or perhaps Carson Palmer (2012)
May 9th, 2012 at 8:33 am
There will always be the “Oh no, the world is ending” guys in here…..but that is what makes it fun!
JDB, I agree…let’s sit and watch what happens next year! Marley posted about the Jets warroom, and all the reports they have…I think Clinks is a good hire!
May 9th, 2012 at 8:36 am
51 INT’s and 28 fumbles in 3 seasons is alarming for Mark Sanchez … but he also has 55 passing TD’s & 12 rushing TD’s.
been to the playoffs 2 out of 3 seasons. He’s only 25 years old.
Has a better QB Rating & completion percentage in the postseason than regular season.
May 9th, 2012 at 8:40 am
I was speaking of the myan calander and us not being contenders this tr..
May 9th, 2012 at 8:40 am
I like all reggies cuts
May 9th, 2012 at 8:41 am
come on guys, maybe he chose to leave because his scouting rapports to the jets was ignored, and they picked players he warned about…none here knows anything so stop moaning about sanchez
May 9th, 2012 at 8:42 am
118.Marks hair Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 8:40 am
I was speaking of the myan calander and us not being contenders this tr..
you know, that will suck if 12-21-12 happens whether or not we are contenders or not
May 9th, 2012 at 8:43 am
And the lakers are light years closer to another championship than the raiders. Get real..
May 9th, 2012 at 8:44 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 8:31 am
I don’t see the beef about Mark Sanchez. I don’t think he’s a bad player. Certainly better than anything we’ve had as a starting QB for the past 10 years since Rich Gannon (2002) or perhaps Carson Palmer (2012)
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+1
Sanchez has WON GAMES.
The national consensus on Sanchez has basically come from the NY media.
The fact is, he came in as a day one starter and has shown a lot of poise. Hes made some mistakes, like all young players, but hes going into his 4th season as a full time starter, with playoff experience. I predict a breakout season for Sanchez.
May 9th, 2012 at 8:48 am
Sanchez’ numbers haven’t been great. He has experienced some growing pains, but look at the offense around him. He has had very little support from the running game, and hell look at the receivers he has had to deal with in Braylon Edwards, Santonio Holmes and and Plaxico Burress. Sure they are talented guys, but their egos outweigh their performance and I’m sure if you watch them, their route running is lazy. He also had very little college experience before moving to the NFL. Who knows what he turns in to, but he certainly isn’t the worst starting QB in the NFL.
May 9th, 2012 at 8:49 am
The white soup
May 9th, 2012 at 8:50 am
Agreed!
May 9th, 2012 at 8:50 am
Er brownish..
May 9th, 2012 at 9:03 am
22. JFB,
Fresh eyes and voices in the room would inherently have happened anyways with Al gone.
It’s not like Al was known for having incompetent people around him. He was very demanding and was always checking to see who was thorough with their work. Al’s problem was that in order for anyone to influence him, they had to have more than just sound intelligence on a matter, they also had to convince Al to change his own mind which wasnt easy to do.
Our drafts have been good as of late, since Al wasnt at the combines and since his staff was able to rig the information Al was given.
I dont think these moves have anything to do with these former employees abilities, I think it just has to do with Reggie getting his guys for the sake of getting his own guys. Which I dont agree with.
Though, I will say this, it seems like a few of these guys wanted to take a break anyways, such as Herrera and these scouts. They were ready for retirement.
Herrock was a good hire IMO, Clinks was not, and hiring the twin was questionable. And I dont want to believe it but it does seem rather convenient that Wolf’s kid is now moving up the ranks thanks to Reggies departure in GB.
Im still a loyal supporter of the Gut. Im just not sold on a few of these moves. But for the most part, I agree with everything he’s been doing.
May 9th, 2012 at 9:03 am
I just think it’s funny that people would actually be mad at what Reggie is doing (especially Cork who has said repeatedly that he isn’t a Raiders fan). For any business to be succesful you have to surround yourself with people that you trust and feel comfortable with. Reggie is building a regime and he has every right to do so. He’s bringing our beloved franchise into the 21st century and I’m glad.
Stupidity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results, and I for one am done with the last 12 years of borderline pathetic Raiders teams, I’m ready for us to be perenial contenders again and I trust the Reggie knows what he’s doing.
May 9th, 2012 at 9:06 am
Paul Gutierrez, the Raiders Insider for CSN Bay Area, will also be on the show. We’ll hear about the shakeup in the team’s scouting department as well as how Dennis Allen is doing during his first offseason as the team’s head coach.
You can watch it all live at noon ET.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/09/pft-live-tom-heckert-and-raiders-talk-with-paul-gutierrez/
May 9th, 2012 at 9:06 am
Just about anything is an upgrade from our previous scouts. That being said, the Jets have been significantly better than the Raiders in recent years, so I think hiring anyone with the Jets is a clear upgrade. Mark Sanchez vs. Kerry Colllins/Aaron Brooks/Andrew Walter/JaMarcus Russel/Jason Campbell? Advantage: Jets.
May 9th, 2012 at 9:07 am
23., RaiderSam,
You are right. We dont know exactly who signed off on Gholston or Sanchez. That very well could have been a Tannebaum or Rex Ryan override of what the scouting reports said.
But no matter how crappy the 2003-2007 seasons were, we were never short on talent. Our coaching and schemes and dysfunctionality from within the org was what made us so pathetic on the field of play. Talent was never our issue.
May 9th, 2012 at 9:12 am
Morning/afternoon peoples!
Go A’s!
May 9th, 2012 at 9:15 am
Yes, we hired someone partly responsible for Mark Sanchez. He’s replacing someone partly responsible for JaMarcus Russell. You tell me who we should go with.
May 9th, 2012 at 9:17 am
I’m taking the (Mystic) approach towards Mark Sanchez. He’s a Mexican American, so am I. I want him to play well.
lol
May 9th, 2012 at 9:17 am
If Sanchez is a Latino version of Soup, can we call him menudo?
May 9th, 2012 at 9:18 am
133.DMAC Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 9:12 am
Morning/afternoon peoples!
Go A’s!
That was a thing of beauty last night with Inge blasting that ball out for a grand slam!
May 9th, 2012 at 9:18 am
And if there’s any Peruvian American players in the league, I want them to play well.
lol
May 9th, 2012 at 9:19 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 9:17 am
If Sanchez is a Latino version of Soup, can we call him menudo?
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More like posole.
May 9th, 2012 at 9:20 am
Anyways, 3 more months til tailgating season begins again!
May 9th, 2012 at 9:21 am
Posole looks like a mix of two English words…
May 9th, 2012 at 9:22 am
hwnrdr Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 9:18 am
133.DMAC Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 9:12 am
Morning/afternoon peoples!
Go A’s!
That was a thing of beauty last night with Inge blasting that ball out for a grand slam!
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I guess Billy Beane reads this blog 2.
I told his ass to sign Brandon Inge as soon as he was released, to take over third base.
May 9th, 2012 at 9:23 am
I hope DMAC doesn’t reinjure his posole this season.
May 9th, 2012 at 9:27 am
Jimmy Carter is a posole
May 9th, 2012 at 9:34 am
Bears contemplate bringing Tommie Harris back
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are the Raiders set with Christo Bilukidi, Travis Ivey, Jamie Cumbie, Dominique Hamilton & Raphael Guidry competing for the 4th DT spot behind Seymour, Kelly & Bryant ??
May 9th, 2012 at 9:34 am
Posole sucks!!!
They love that ish out here, I can’t handle it.
Maybe Sanchez is more akin to albondigas.
May 9th, 2012 at 9:35 am
Brandon Inge had a nice moment last night, and is decent with the glove, but he is basically a .215 hitter these days with some pop, with a major propensity to ground into double plays.
May 9th, 2012 at 9:35 am
Interesting that you don’t see a lot of Mexican-American support for Mark Sanchez. Maybe it was his dad pulling him out of Pico Rivera and moving him to Rancho Santa Margarita, in lily white Orange County.
May 9th, 2012 at 9:36 am
Harris was a beast when healthy.
I think the family issues took the sting out of his game though.
May 9th, 2012 at 9:36 am
#135, DMAC. Lol, but you’re gonna have to do better than that to be on Misty’s level. It goes well beyond ‘wanting’ him to play well. You have to spew propaganda to convince us all that he’s the best thing since sliced bread and an up and coming legend.
You do have a leg up on Misty though. The Jets passed on what would have been a cheaper option in Soup for your boy Sanchez.
May 9th, 2012 at 9:37 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 9:35 am
Brandon Inge had a nice moment last night, and is decent with the glove, but he is basically a .215 hitter these days with some pop, with a major propensity to ground into double plays.
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I’ll take Inge over all those wannabe 3rd basemen the A’s were platooning at 3rd. His glove is pretty good. Anything he gives on offense is a plus.
May 9th, 2012 at 9:38 am
The Big Banana Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 9:36 am
#135, DMAC. Lol, but you’re gonna have to do better than that to be on Misty’s level. It goes well beyond ‘wanting’ him to play well. You have to spew propaganda to convince us all that he’s the best thing since sliced bread and an up and coming legend.
You do have a leg up on Misty though. The Jets passed on what would have been a cheaper option in Soup for your boy Sanchez.
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lol
CP3 is my boy!
May 9th, 2012 at 9:39 am
I’ll take Inge over all those wannabe 3rd basemen the A’s were platooning at 3rd.
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Who is the dude with the Nap Dynamite dorky glasses, who was hitting about .180?
May 9th, 2012 at 9:40 am
I assume that Shaughnessy, Houston & Tollefson are our Top 3 DE’s.
I guess that means Jack Crawford is competing with Hall Davis, Mason Brodine & Kaelin Burnett for the 4th DE spot, right?
May 9th, 2012 at 9:40 am
Why and the hell did Sugar Shane jump into the ring w/ Canelo?
Dude must be dead broke after his divorce.
I kind of feel for the guy.
He really needs to retire, but he is in need of some serious $$$.
May 9th, 2012 at 9:41 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 9:39 am
I’ll take Inge over all those wannabe 3rd basemen the A’s were platooning at 3rd.
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Who is the dude with the Nap Dynamite dorky glasses, who was hitting about .180?
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Eric Sogard = infield utility guy
May 9th, 2012 at 9:43 am
Sogard stinks.
I watched him get a few at-bats, and teams were just challenging him 1-0, 2-0, with belt high fastballs.
And he would ground out weakly. Same thing with Brandon Crawford for the Giants.
You can tell how good a guy is, by how teams try to pitch them.
May 9th, 2012 at 9:46 am
It was pretty sad for Sugar Shane on Saturday. You can tell he has no real interest in fighting, anytime he got punched, he wanted to stop and give the guy a glove tap and atta-boy, rather than a counterpunch. After getting beat on every round, he made sure he gave the guy props before he returned to the corner.
Just pathetic. And he only got 600K for the fight, so not like he is making any real money anyways.
And if he fights again, it will be for even less pay after his last two stinkers.
May 9th, 2012 at 9:46 am
Is there a signal for hey, this guy sucks…throw anything at him?
May 9th, 2012 at 9:47 am
Why did it look like Money’s girl bleached her skin for the fight?
Mrs. Jackson looked like Mrs. Nordgren. Lilly white.
And Beiber holding the belts behind Floyd was pretty comical.
May 9th, 2012 at 9:47 am
Just heard Clinkscales will be the next Assistant General Manager and that all official changes will be announced at the end of the month!
Funny how the Raiders are more fourthcoming about changes in the organization…
May 9th, 2012 at 9:48 am
I had high hopes for Brandon Crawford, being a local guy and pretty slick defensively.
But he can’t hit at the MLB level. Middle-in, he is awful.
May 9th, 2012 at 9:50 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 9:47 am
Why did it look like Money’s girl bleached her skin for the fight?
Mrs. Jackson looked like Mrs. Nordgren. Lilly white.
And Beiber holding the belts behind Floyd was pretty comical.
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I was waiting for someone to run out on the ring and knock Beiber out w/ a jab.
lol
I got a good laugh w/ $$$$’s entourage.
May 9th, 2012 at 9:51 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 9:48 am
I had high hopes for Brandon Crawford, being a local guy and pretty slick defensively.
But he can’t hit at the MLB level. Middle-in, he is awful.
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He may not be ready for the big dogs. Send him back to the minors for some serious fine tuning.
May 9th, 2012 at 9:51 am
Is there a signal for hey, this guy sucks…throw anything at him?
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Rich Gannon used to have a signal for hey, this guy sucks…DON’T throw anything at him!
it was a middle finger in the direction of Marcus Knight & Roland Williams !!
May 9th, 2012 at 9:54 am
Floyd is awesome.
Got so many Vegas stories with him from living there for years.
I am sure R8eray has some too.
Good one was stumbling home one day on the strip around 3am, and seeing this huge entourage.
Floyd was training. By running the strip at 3am, lol. Being followed by a car wrapped with a Filthy Rich records (his label) wrapping and blaring their music. And of course, a police escort the whole time.
Quite the sight.
May 9th, 2012 at 9:56 am
Why did Mayweather bring Bieber as part of his entourage? Everyone’s talking about it. That’s one reason. It’s show business. Also, he’s about to go to jail for domestic abuse. Having Bieber with him gives the impression he’s harmless, that he’s a family man, etc. Almost gives the impression that he’s been wrongly convicted. He’ll come out of jail looking like a teddy bear instead of a hardened criminal. Good business acumen, or at least someone in his circle has it.
May 9th, 2012 at 9:58 am
He used to go to the Friday Night fights at The Orleans all the time, and was notorious for dropping major coin at the Sports Book.
But weird bets, especially 1st halve wagers in the NBA.
And not big teams, big games. Like Pistons +3 at the half to Atlanta………….I’ll put 150K on the Hawks.
All cash to.
May 9th, 2012 at 9:59 am
Floyd probably had the Biebs around, because he is one of the few public celebrities on his level financially.
May 9th, 2012 at 10:01 am
Mayweather brings Game and Snoop Dogg into the ring with him, he’s a thug. He brings Bieber, he’s a geek. Can’t win. It’s like Ice Cube. He makes a family movie, people say he’s lost his street cred. Had he never made Are We There Yet, he would still just be that angry rapper that promotes gang violence and hates America. See the trap?
May 9th, 2012 at 10:02 am
Rich Gannon used to have a signal for hey, this guy sucks…DON’T throw anything at him!
it was a middle finger in the direction of James Jett & Jeremy Brigham !!
May 9th, 2012 at 10:03 am
160.Just Fire Baby Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 9:47 am
Why did it look like Money’s girl bleached her skin for the fight?
Mrs. Jackson looked like Mrs. Nordgren. Lilly white.
And Beiber holding the belts behind Floyd was pretty comical.
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It was even funnier to see Triple H from the WWE holding up some of his belts…
May 9th, 2012 at 10:04 am
Mayweather brings Game and Snoop Dogg into the ring with him, he’s a thug. He brings Bieber, he’s a geek. Can’t win. It’s like Ice Cube. He makes a family movie, people say he’s lost his street cred. Had he never made Are We There Yet, he would still just be that angry rapper that promotes gang violence and hates America. See the trap?
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Actually his entourage for this fight included Bieber, The Game, 50 Cent, Triple H… and about 20 other guys i didn’t recognize.
May 9th, 2012 at 10:04 am
Raiders Team Report
USA Today
Matt Leinart found a new team, but one with a high degree of familiarity.
The former Heisman Trophy winning quarterback signed with the Raiders, who were in the market for a veteran in case second-year player Terrelle Pryor isn’t ready to be next man up in the even of an injury to starter Carson Palmer.
It isn’t the first time Leinart has backed up Palmer. He also did at USC when Palmer won the Heisman Trophy. Two years later Leinart won his own Heisman while compiling a 37-2 record which made him one of the biggest winners in college football history.
Leinart will come in with somewhat of a working knowledge of the Raiders offense, given his relationship with offensive coordinator Greg Knapp. Knapp was the quarterbacks coach for the Houston Texans the past two seasons, with Leinart on the roster.
Much of the West Coast style offense the Raiders will implement was imported by Knapp from Houston.
“I think bringing in a guy that has experience, a veteran type of player, does two things,” Raiders coach Dennis Allen told the San Jose Mercury News. “No. 1, I think it helps Carson to have that extra set of eyes there, a guy he can communicate with and help him through.
“But I also think it helps Terrelle Pryor to have another veteran type of guy in there, a guy that’s come in with a lot of high hopes and expectations and kind of show him the ropes a little bit.”
Leinart struggled in Arizona after getting substantial playing time as a rookie taken with the No. 10 overall pick in the draft.
However, veteran Kurt Warner, brought in to be the backup, staged a career revival and Leinart was eventually released and signed with the Texans to back up Matt Schaub.
Ironically, the Raiders had some draft room discussion about drafting Leinart with the No. 7 overall pick in 2006 before owner Al Davis instead opted for safety Michael Huff.
In his first start last season, after Schaub was lost for the season due to injury, Leinart suffered a broken left clavicle and was placed on injured reserve.
General manager Reggie McKenzie said going into the first voluntary minicamp the Raiders wanted to see where Pryor was and if he was a viable option to be the backup quarterback.
Leinart’s signing in some quarters was seen as an immediate referendum on that notion. Pryor arrived in Napa on the final day of training camp last season and then had to sit out a five-game suspension.
In year two, Pryor has had to learn an entirely new offense, and is also hamstring by a new CBA which limits one-on-one competition.
“He has all kinds of talent,” Allen said. “He’s not there from a mental standpoint, from a fundamental standpoint, which is true of 99 percent of the young quarterbacks that come into this league.
“The other thing he’s shown me is he’s a worker. He’s put in relentless hours and effort in preparation. He’s competing. He wants to prove to everybody he can be a quarterback for us in the NFL. And we’re going oto give him that opportunity, and that’s what it’s all about.”
Allen said there has been no discussion about moving Pryor to a position other than quarterback such as tight end or slot receiver.
NOTES, QUOTES
—General manager Reggie McKenzie immediately began restructuring the scouting department following the draft.
The first official move was to release Jon Kingdon, a respected 33-year veteran of the staff.
The Raiders reportedly also let go 31-year veteran Bruce Kebric.
Among the newcomers was Shaun Herock, a 19-year veteran of the Green Bay Packers and the son of Ken Herock, a former Raiders player and executive who assisted the team following the death of Al Davis on Oct. 8. Herock was the Packers assistant director of college scouting.
Also arriving soon will be Raleigh McKenzie, the twin brother of Reggie and a 17-year NFL veteran, including 10 years and two Super Bowl rings as a guard for the Washington Redskins.
An elementary school teacher and high school football coach in Herndon, Va., Raleigh McKenzie accompanied his brother for at least part of the NFL scouting combine.
—The player coach Dennis Allen named to the San Jose Mercury News as having the qualities of someone he is looking for as an Oakland Raider was once available to the club in free agency.
Instead, Drew Brees went to the New Orleans Saints, and it helped Allen, a defensive backs coach in New Orleans, get a Super Bowl ring.
“Here’s a guy that might not be, when you look at height, weight and speed, the most impressive,” Allen said. “But what they guy is, he’s a tough, smart competitive instinctive football player.
“He understands how to play the game and it’s important to him. I think a lot of times you find guys and they play the game off their athleticism, but they haven’t put the study time in learning how to be a real pro.”
—When the Raiders talk about being “global,” it’s no idle boast this season.
Their most recent addition, offensive lineman Ed Wang, was the first Chinese-American player drafted into the NFL by Buffalo in 2012. He’ll compete to be a backup on both sides.
During the draft, the Raiders selected defensive end Jack Crawford in the fifth round (No. 158 overall) and a short time later used their sixth round pick (No. 168) on Christo Bilukidi of Georgia State.
Crawford was born in London, moving to the United States with a host family to play basketball.
Bilukidi was born in Angola, the son of a diplomat, and lived in Brazil and France before settling in Ottawa.
QUOTE TO NOTE: “I would say these guys are eager, they’re eager for change, they’re eager for getting an opportunity to get started, they’re looking forward to a clean slate, and I’ve been pleased with their eagerness to work.” — Raiders coach Dennis Allen on his impressions during the club’s offseason program and first voluntary minicamp.
STRATEGY AND PERSONNEL
The Raiders continue to be coy about whether their base defensive alignment will be a 4-3 or a 3-4 defense, with Allen only committing to a “multiple scheme.”
Oakland did not make a move to draft a true nose tackle in the draft suitable for a 3-4. Allen said in an interview that should Oakland go to a 3-4 on occasion, he has one on the roster — veteran defensive tackle Tommy Kelly.
Kelly was originally the three-technique tackle replacing Warren Sapp, with Richard Seymour eventually arriving by trade and working alongside him after being moved from end.
Kelly has also played defensive end. Just last season Kelly dropped nearly 30 pounds for enhanced quickness. His 14.5 sacks over the past two seasons suggest more of a penetrator than a classic nose.
Although Kelly and Seymour have been well regarded as a tandem in pushing the pocket, the fact is the Raiders have ranked near the bottom of the NFL in run defense for several seasons.
MEDICAL WATCH
—RB Darren McFadden, who missed the last nine games with severe mid-foot sprain, is expected to participate fully in both the mandatory minicamp and OTAs.
FRANCHISE PLAYER: FS Tyvon Branch (tendered at $6.212 million; signed May 7).
TRANSITION PLAYER: None.
UNRESTRICTED FREE AGENTS
—LB Darryl Blackstock was a backup middle linebacker brought aboard because of his familiarity with defensive coordinator Chuck Bresnahan, who is no longer on staff.
—QB Kyle Boller flamed out in his only start before Carson Palmer was acquired and is not a fit for offensive coordinator Greg Knapp’s offense.
—LB Quentin Groves, replaced by Aaron Curry early in the season, threw himself into special teams work and is hoping to return.
—OT Stephon Heyer was a reserve at tackle and guard at a high salary, would have to take less and fit in to a zone blocking scheme.
—WR T.J. Housmandzadeh was brought aboard by Hue Jackson, looked a step slow and likely isn’t in the plans of the new regime.
—DE Jarvis Moss was injury prone last season and was a favorite of the late owner Al Davis, meaning he could be looking for work.
—CB Lito Sheppard was signed early in the season and immediately moved ahead of rookies Chimdi Chekwa and DeMarcus Van Dyke, but struggled at the end of the season.
UNRESTRICTED FREE AGENTS (not tendered offers)
—SS Jerome Boyd (not tendered as ERFA) is a special teams performer who struggles in coverage and has been working out at the team facility, hoping to be part of the new regime.
RESTRICTED FREE AGENTS
—DT Desmond Bryant (tendered at $1.927M with second-round pick as compensation) is a promising, versatile lineman who can play inside, outside and might be the strongest on the team at the point of attack.
EXCLUSIVE RIGHTS FREE AGENTS
—FB Marcel Reece is one of the most versatile players at his position in the NFL and is unlikely to get a chance to play anywhere else.
PLAYERS RE-SIGNED
—OT Khalif Barnes: UFA; $2M/1 yr.
—S Tyvon Branch: Franchise FA; $6.212M/ 1 yr.
—OG Cooper Carlisle: FA; (had been released by Raiders); 1 yr, terms unknown).
—S Matt Giordano: UFA; terms unknown.
—CB Bryan McCann: ERFA; terms unknown.
PLAYERS ACQUIRED
—CB Ron Bartell: FA Rams; $3M/1 yr.
—QB Rhett Bomar: FA; terms unknown.
—OG Mike Brisiel: UFA Texans; $20M/5 yrs.
—RB Mike Goodson (trade Panthers).
—CB Pat Lee: UFA Packers; 1 yr, terms unknown.
—QB Matt Leinart: FA Texans; terms unknown.
—CB Shawntae Spencer: FA 49ers; 1 yr, terms unknown.
—DE Dave Tollefson: UFA Giants; $2.4M/2 yrs, $1.25M guaranteed.
—CB Brandon Underwood: FA; terms unknown.
—OT Ed Wang: FA; terms unknown.
—LB Philip Wheeler: UFA Colts; 1 yr, terms unknown.
PLAYERS LOST
—TE Kevin Boss (released/post-June 1 designation).
—RB Michael Bush: UFA Bears; $14M/4 yrs, $7M guaranteed.
—G/T Bruce Campbell (traded Raiders).
—QB Jason Campbell: UFA Bears; $3.5M/1 yr, $2M SB.
—RB Rock Cartwright: UFA 49ers; 1 yr, terms unknown.
—S Hiram Eugene (released (failed physical).
—DT John Henderson (released/failed physical).
—CB Chris Johnson (released).
—RB James McCluskey (released).
—CB Stanford Routt (released)
—C Samson Satele: UFA Colts; $10.8/3 yrs, $5M guaranteed.
—WR Chaz Schilens: UFA Jets; $765,000/1 yr, $500,000 guaranteed.
—DL Trevor Scott: UFA Patriots; $1.150M/1 yr, $250,000 SB.
—LB Kamerion Wimbley (released).
May 9th, 2012 at 10:08 am
I didn’t see the Game w/ $$$$.
May 9th, 2012 at 10:08 am
Floyd and 50 are around together almost 24/7.
50 just bought Floyd a 500K batman like car for his B-day.
May 9th, 2012 at 10:08 am
Showbiz. Showbiz. Showbiz. Part of Mayweather’s image is outrageous ring entrances. Just about every one of them is talked about for days following the fight.
May 9th, 2012 at 10:12 am
i guess its bought and sold reggie will go down as one of the best gms ever…oh wait, he hasnt won here yet….show me first.
May 9th, 2012 at 10:12 am
Remember Hector Camacho’s Darth Vadar helmet? It’s all about creating a lasting buzz. What about that Prince Naseem?
May 9th, 2012 at 10:13 am
The best one was when he fought De La Hoya on Cinco De Mayo, and came into the ring with every type of negative Hispanic stereoype he could drum up.
Over the top Mexican music, mexican flag draped over him, gigantic sombrero, etc.
May 9th, 2012 at 10:13 am
RM has done a good job as GM. common sense, pragmatic approach.this team will be improved on both sides of the ball this year.Raiders should be able to challenge Denver for the division.
May 9th, 2012 at 10:15 am
Raiders Team Report
USA Today
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thanks, joe.
but thats old news!
May 9th, 2012 at 10:15 am
Did anyone say Reggie will go down as one of the best GM’s ever? I know I didn’t. So far, however, I do believe his decisions have been far better than the decisions of previous management in recent years. You’re right, there are no results to base this on. But in the case of previous management, we do have results. We were statistically one of the worst teams in football over the last decade. It’s basically a case of something we know sucks vs. something we’re not sure of yet. You seem to be in favor of something that we know sucks.
May 9th, 2012 at 10:16 am
$$$ was clearly trying to fix his image in his interview after the fight, because he knows he is hated by many boxing fans.
May 9th, 2012 at 10:17 am
Floyd is an all time great But he ducked MP. Mayweather will fight him now since MP has slowed down a bit. Mayweather wanted nothing to do with him 3 years ago. just my 2 cents. MP should be the one wearing a sombrero and a mexican flag, would be funny because hes the mexican killer.
May 9th, 2012 at 10:18 am
Vegas,
Do you know when Berto’s next fight is?
May 9th, 2012 at 10:19 am
Mayweather’s entrance vs. De La Hoya, just as well. Showbiz. Note that there wasn’t much of a backlash from Latinos, either. Seems they understood what he was doing, too.
May 9th, 2012 at 10:19 am
Camecho could fight though, Prince couldn’t.
Barrera beat Prince into retirement.
May 9th, 2012 at 10:19 am
Did anyone say Reggie will go down as one of the best GM’s ever? I know I didn’t. So far, however, I do believe his decisions have been far better than the decisions of previous management in recent years. You’re right, there are no results to base this on. But in the case of previous management, we do have results. We were statistically one of the worst teams in football over the last decade. It’s basically a case of something we know sucks vs. something we’re not sure of yet. You seem to be in favor of something that we know sucks.
… was that directed at me? cant tell. RM is a legit GM, we’re just not used to it. this is an actual Football organization now and is run like one. Raiders have entered the modern era.
May 9th, 2012 at 10:20 am
Raiders should be able to challenge Denver for the division.
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@ mauler
I think the Raiders will challenge the Chiefs for the division. Raiders win the AFC West. KC makes it in as a wildcard. SD finishes 8-8. Denver 6-10
write that down
May 9th, 2012 at 10:20 am
Wut up Raider Beyotches!!
May 9th, 2012 at 10:21 am
I don’t know when Berto fights next.
Did you see Andre Ward getting some mic time during the Shane fight? Who should he fight next?
May 9th, 2012 at 10:21 am
First time I been on today – I see the morning crew is hoppin’ already.
May 9th, 2012 at 10:22 am
Raiders win the AFC West. KC makes it in as a wildcard. SD finishes 8-8. Denver 6-10
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Interesting.
I hope not, I am all-in on planning to go to that Denver game week 14.
Will take some of the sting out of it if the Donks are 5-8 at the time.
May 9th, 2012 at 10:22 am
Long overdue. The previous regime was there for more years than most of us have been alive . Al people, yes men. Way too long to be in those positions. Change is good and Reggie is bringing it. I hope more personnel changes happen. Reggie is spraying that Febreze! Get rid of the stank Big Reggie!
May 9th, 2012 at 10:24 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 10:20 am
Raiders should be able to challenge Denver for the division.
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@ mauler
I think the Raiders will challenge the Chiefs for the division. Raiders win the AFC West. KC makes it in as a wildcard. SD finishes 8-8. Denver 6-10
write that down
… i cant see Denver being THAT bad. i see it more like: Raiders 10-6, Broncos 10-6, Queefs 9-7, Chargers 7-9. peyton manning even at 80% good enough for 10 wins.
May 9th, 2012 at 10:24 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 10:21 am
I don’t know when Berto fights next.
Did you see Andre Ward getting some mic time during the Shane fight? Who should he fight next?
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Who there for him to fight?
May 9th, 2012 at 10:25 am
The Queefs will be better than the overhyped Donks.
May 9th, 2012 at 10:25 am
raiderjhawk Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 9:03 am
I just think it’s funny that people would actually be mad at what Reggie is doing (especially Cork who has said repeatedly that he isn’t a Raiders fan). For any business to be succesful you have to surround yourself with people that you trust and feel comfortable with. Reggie is building a regime and he has every right to do so. He’s bringing our beloved franchise into the 21st century and I’m glad.
Stupidity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results, and I for one am done with the last 12 years of borderline pathetic Raiders teams, I’m ready for us to be perenial contenders again and I trust the Reggie knows what he’s doing.
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Some people know what’s up and are anticipating what the Raiders will look like as a professional football team – “In Reggie we trust” should be on every Raider fan’s lips.
May 9th, 2012 at 10:26 am
Even if The Reggie wanted to keep these guys, sounds like a few wanted to leave ANYWAYS, and whose to say that asking a 30 year vet, 60 year old scout to adapt a little to the new regime would have worked at all?
Too much risk without much reward, IMO. thank you for your services, bring in the new guys.
May 9th, 2012 at 10:27 am
Who there for him to fight?
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Will probably need to be a little creative with the weight to get a mega-money fight.
May 9th, 2012 at 10:27 am
The Queefs will be better than the overhyped Donks.
queefs are usually decent BUT i dont really the broncos as overhyped. Manning IS that good, if we had him we’d all be talking about going 14-2. but he is getting old and hopefully it takes 4-5 reg season games for him to settle in. Raiders better start the season out 4-4, build a lead over denver and hold it.
May 9th, 2012 at 10:28 am
Boxing needs Pacquiao/Mayweather. The last thing close to a super fight was Mayweather/ De La Hoya. Huge events like this, which draw people who don’t even normally watch the sport, alas the Super Bowl, NCAA national championship, etc, are too few and far between anymore in boxing. It’s killing the sport. Meanwhile every UFC ppv event is a smash hit.
May 9th, 2012 at 10:28 am
Perhaps Reggie hired Colonel Clink as a QA analyst.
Based on Sanchez and Gholston, Col. Clink can be used a s a filter.
If Clink thinks highly of a player, you pass on that player. And the inverse for other players he doesn’t like: you draft them.
May 9th, 2012 at 10:28 am
DMAC Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 10:25 am
The Queefs will be better than the overhyped Donks.
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Not under Romeo Crennel they won’t be. Dude ain’t a head coach.
May 9th, 2012 at 10:29 am
Are we sure Clink was responsible for Gholston?
May 9th, 2012 at 10:31 am
Sullivan44 Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 10:28 am
Boxing needs Pacquiao/Mayweather. The last thing close to a super fight was Mayweather/ De La Hoya. Huge events like this, which draw people who don’t even normally watch the sport, alas the Super Bowl, NCAA national championship, etc, are too few and far between anymore in boxing. It’s killing the sport. Meanwhile every UFC ppv event is a smash hit.
it should have happened 3 years ago, when they were both at their best. who cares now. Pacquiao isn’t as fast anymore. Mayweather ducked him 3 years ago. Pacquiao was as fast as mayweather and could HIT so mayweather ducked him. Now Manny is slower and hittable so mayweather calls him out. not as bad as when Roy Jones Jr. said holyfield ducked him even though RJJ wanted 80% of the fight money. classic
May 9th, 2012 at 10:33 am
Good day Nation.
Green Party Rules!!
Long Live ODB!
May 9th, 2012 at 10:34 am
Hate to say this, but I think the Queefs might have the best D in the AFC West.
May 9th, 2012 at 10:35 am
UFC’s ratings on Saturday Night on Fox were off-the-charts awful.
Doubt they will get any more Sat night events.
It was the least watched Fox Primetime Saturday night show in years.
May 9th, 2012 at 10:36 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 10:27 am
Who there for him to fight?
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Will probably need to be a little creative with the weight to get a mega-money fight.
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Hopkins-Ward fight would be interesting.
May 9th, 2012 at 10:36 am
Sullivan44 Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 9:35 am
Interesting that you don’t see a lot of Mexican-American support for Mark Sanchez. Maybe it was his dad pulling him out of Pico Rivera and moving him to Rancho Santa Margarita, in lily white Orange County.
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This has some truth to it. I remember a small window of time when he was at SC where the LA media tried to sell Sanchez as the “Mexican QB” to get some local support from the Hispanic base, but it didnt work. Sanchez is pretty far removed from his Mexican roots, and the fans saw right through it. And yeah, being from OC and not LA didnt help either. So I think the lack of support for Sanchez from Mexican-Americans is that hes viewed as “a guy whos last name happens to be Sanchez”.
All that aside, I will always love how he torched Penn State in the Rose Bowl. Great game.
May 9th, 2012 at 10:36 am
Raider O Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 10:33 am
Good day Nation.
Green Party Rules!!
Long Live ODB!
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Lighters out!
May 9th, 2012 at 10:37 am
In fact, more people watched the PPV Mayweather fight on Saturday, than people watched the free UFC stuff on Fox the same night.
May 9th, 2012 at 10:37 am
Vegas,
Money M is avoiding Pacquiao. I’m done hearing his excuses. He wanted a blood test for roids, and now he wants a 60/40 purse split.
I will pay to see Pacquiao kick his a$$. It should be 50/50.
May 9th, 2012 at 10:38 am
I just like the name “Clinkscales” doesn’t matter if he can coach or not.
Welcome aboard Clink!
May 9th, 2012 at 10:39 am
DMAC,
Our slogan: P^3
Puff
Puff
Pass
May 9th, 2012 at 10:40 am
Why should it be 50/50?
Floyd is CLEARLY the bigger draw and has never lost. His PPV numbers are way higher than Manny’s, so he is the one driving the revenue, and Manny has multiple losses in his career.
And Cotto had no issue with the blood testing, so why should Manny?
May 9th, 2012 at 10:40 am
Raider O Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 10:39 am
DMAC,
Our slogan: P^3
Puff
Puff
Pass
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Haven’t heard from ODB 2day. Maybe he’s working on the campaign free testers.
Green Party rules!
lol
May 9th, 2012 at 10:41 am
I hope not, I am all-in on planning to go to that Denver game week 14.
Will take some of the sting out of it if the Donks are 5-8 at the time.
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@JFB
everbody loves a good Donkey Stomp!!
wasn’t Dakota there when we whipped’em 59-10 ?
May 9th, 2012 at 10:41 am
May up Money May!
May 9th, 2012 at 10:41 am
Man*
May 9th, 2012 at 10:42 am
Fights are NEVER 50/50 splits.
Don King and Tyson made guys take 15-30% while he was the champ.
May 9th, 2012 at 10:42 am
MP has def. lost a bit of speed on his punches. Let’s throw my boy Canelo out there w/ $$$ for next years 5 de Mayo.
May 9th, 2012 at 10:43 am
LOL DMAC. I hope all is well with ODB. He is one funny dude.
May 9th, 2012 at 10:45 am
The Queefs will be better than the overhyped Donks.
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Not under Romeo Crennel they won’t be. Dude ain’t a head coach.
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@Dave
It’s hard to justify saying a guy can’t coach or play based upon what they accomplished with the Cleveland Browns {see Bill Belichick}
May 9th, 2012 at 10:45 am
Here’s a classic play by Romo against the Donkeys, when he covered horseface all the way down the field, like a shadow, one of my all time favorites.
He grabbed Sharp’s arm and held it across his body while he drove him to the ground on top of the arm.Look at it in slow motion, great stuff.
That Donkey was nowhere to be seen for 6-8 weeks.
You go, Romo!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqrIsekRIXc
May 9th, 2012 at 10:45 am
I think Bradley is going to give Manny a helluva a fight, and may floor Manny.
May 9th, 2012 at 10:48 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 10:41 am
I hope not, I am all-in on planning to go to that Denver game week 14.
Will take some of the sting out of it if the Donks are 5-8 at the time.
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@JFB
everbody loves a good Donkey Stomp!!
wasn’t Dakota there when we whipped’em 59-10 ?
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that 59-14 thrashing was a thing of beauty!
May 9th, 2012 at 10:48 am
Manny has no issues with a blood test, but he wants a 50/50 split. I think he has a point. Money May has his fans that are willing to pay to watch every fight, but Boxing fans like me are not willing to pay to watch Money fight Cotto. I will pay more to watch Manny kick his punk a$$. I like warriors in the ring! Bring back young Iron Mike. He gave other fighters 15-30% because they didn’t last past the 6th round.
Cotto?! Really?
May 9th, 2012 at 10:49 am
that 59-14 thrashing was a thing of beauty!
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@hb 59-14 ??
SORRY. thanks for the correction
May 9th, 2012 at 10:50 am
218.Just Fire Baby Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 10:40 am
Why should it be 50/50?
Floyd is CLEARLY the bigger draw and has never lost. His PPV numbers are way higher than Manny’s, so he is the one driving the revenue, and Manny has multiple losses in his career.
And Cotto had no issue with the blood testing, so why should Manny?
Thank you! I like Pacquiao but right there questioned it…if I was a fighter and I believed I was the best, I would do anything to get that fight…when he turned it down, well that is my opinion of course. I watched him when he was a fly weight, but I will tell you this…
All of his recent fights, except for Cotto…was all past their prime! Not putting down Pac Man, but, it makes you wonder!
Of course, same can be said about Floyd, but….
May 9th, 2012 at 10:52 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 10:49 am
that 59-14 thrashing was a thing of beauty!
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@hb 59-14 ??
SORRY. thanks for the correction
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That was one of those games worth remembering if you know what I mean. I look foward to the days in the future when we not only win but have a few blowouts to enjoy every season! It wasn’t good for my blood pressure in the past with to many nail biters.
May 9th, 2012 at 10:53 am
Prez. DMAC
V.P. Raider O
whats happening my Green Party brothers ??
been a little busy at work today, but not to
busy to spread the Green Party words !! P^3
lol only problem is i went to lunch by myself..
noboby to pass to. more like puff puff puff puff…….
May 9th, 2012 at 10:53 am
That thrashing a couple years ago was something to enjoy!!!
May 9th, 2012 at 10:54 am
234.R8ER MIKE Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 10:53 am
Prez. DMAC
V.P. Raider O
whats happening my Green Party brothers ??
been a little busy at work today, but not to
busy to spread the Green Party words !! P^3
lol only problem is i went to lunch by myself..
noboby to pass to. more like puff puff puff puff…….
That’s when you pass to that little green man! LOL
May 9th, 2012 at 10:54 am
yeah, HB
I hate beating a 2-win team by 3 points with 5 seconds left in the game in the month of December as well
also tired of beating a good team, then reverting back to turd status and losing what should be considered an “easy win” the next week … especially if it’s a win that would make or break our playoff chances!!
May 9th, 2012 at 10:57 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 10:54 am
yeah, HB
I hate beating a 2-win team by 3 points with 5 seconds left in the game in the month of December as well
also tired of beating a good team, then reverting back to turd status and losing what should be considered an “easy win” the next week … especially if it’s a win that would make or break our playoff chances!!
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Life as a modern day Raider fan is about to change.
I’m pyched to tell all these Pats fans here in Ma. there time is done. The rise of the Raiders has begun!
May 9th, 2012 at 10:58 am
LOL Hwnrdr..
probably should have, way to high now to be trying to work !! lol lol lol.
but ya gotta do what ya gotta do !!
May 9th, 2012 at 10:58 am
214.Just Fire Baby Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 10:37 am
In fact, more people watched the PPV Mayweather fight on Saturday, than people watched the free UFC stuff on Fox the same night.
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I watched both, people just have a bad taste in their mouth about the free MMA events after the Kimbo Slice EXC debacle, and the first UFC free event on Fox where Dos Santos won in like 30 seconds.
May 9th, 2012 at 10:59 am
would love to see Mayweather beaten but sadly must admit he’s the best fighter I’ve ever seen. Interesting that after the last Marquez Pacquiao bout Floyd has been much more interested in fighting Pacquiao which is of course because Pacquiao displayed he’s lost a step. Floyd however showed his vulnerability vs Cotto so the fight once again would be a great one, whereas after Marquez v Manny I thought it would be a cake walk
May 9th, 2012 at 10:59 am
239.R8ER MIKE Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 10:58 am
LOL Hwnrdr..
probably should have, way to high now to be trying to work !! lol lol lol.
but ya gotta do what ya gotta do !!
Oh I feel ya! LOL
Don’t do greenery anymore, but I remember when I used to take my dinner breaks at the bar and then try to come back…LOL
May 9th, 2012 at 11:00 am
ODB,
Nothing wrong with that. thats our other slogan: P^-
Puff
Puff
Puff
Puff
Puff
……
May 9th, 2012 at 11:02 am
sweet that works for me O !
May 9th, 2012 at 11:03 am
baseball, boxing & smot poking = ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzz
RRS out!
May 9th, 2012 at 11:03 am
hwnrdr Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 10:54 am
234.R8ER MIKE Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 10:53 am
Prez. DMAC
V.P. Raider O
whats happening my Green Party brothers ??
been a little busy at work today, but not to
busy to spread the Green Party words !! P^3
lol only problem is i went to lunch by myself..
noboby to pass to. more like puff puff puff puff…….
That’s when you pass to that little green man! LOL
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Don’t forget to pass it to the guy on the couch.
lol
May 9th, 2012 at 11:04 am
ODB,
Nonsense. You can never be too high at work especially at a dealership. I used to be so high answering sales calls, I start imagining cars that don’t exist on the lot. Just ask for Steve. Who is Steve?!
May 9th, 2012 at 11:05 am
RR,
Come back. We can talk politics too.
May 9th, 2012 at 11:09 am
lol .. very true O. not like its a job that you have to concentrate a lot. answer the phone, give out prices and send out parts.if the $hit is wrong.. oh well try again. My car runs just fine !!
May 9th, 2012 at 11:10 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 11:03 am
baseball, boxing & smot poking = ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzz
RRS out!
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Don’t let the door hit you on the way brother.
May 9th, 2012 at 11:11 am
Raider O Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 11:05 am
RR,
Come back. We can talk politics too.
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lol lol .. i think its the “weed” talk he doesnt like.
May 9th, 2012 at 11:11 am
Raider O Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 11:04 am
ODB,
Nonsense. You can never be too high at work especially at a dealership. I used to be so high answering sales calls, I start imagining cars that don’t exist on the lot. Just ask for Steve. Who is Steve?!
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lol
May 9th, 2012 at 11:12 am
people just have a bad taste in their mouth about the free MMA events after the Kimbo Slice EXC debacle, and the first UFC free event on Fox where Dos Santos won in like 30 seconds.
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Interesting, being that those two were the most viewed of all the free UFC stuff.
1st UFC free one is still the highest viewed, with Kimbo getting run over by the dude in the pink hair #2.
May 9th, 2012 at 11:12 am
247.Raider O Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 11:04 am
ODB,
Nonsense. You can never be too high at work especially at a dealership. I used to be so high answering sales calls, I start imagining cars that don’t exist on the lot. Just ask for Steve. Who is Steve?!
Hey Dave’s not here, man! … whoops, yeah, who’s Steve? LOL
May 9th, 2012 at 11:13 am
LMAO ODB. Now I know why we couldn’t the right parts.
May 9th, 2012 at 11:15 am
233.HairyBush Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 10:52 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 10:49 am
that 59-14 thrashing was a thing of beauty!
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@hb 59-14 ??
SORRY. thanks for the correction
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That was one of those games worth remembering if you know what I mean. I look foward to the days in the future when we not only win but have a few blowouts to enjoy every season! It wasn’t good for my blood pressure in the past with to many nail biters.
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Yes and who was our coach that game? Tom Cable. We all like to make fun of him for whatever reason but the guy took over a messy situation and an 5-11 record and got us back to .500…sweeping the AFC West in the process.
You can say how much he sucked as a coach or throw in a few fat jokes and say how “it’s a new era” and how we’re gonna be a “real” organization now but given the situation Cable was in what coach, GM, whatever would have done better? We’ll never know, but we can talk all day about how things are so much better now and how things are changing so much for the better now that “the stink of Al” is gone, but Reggie and DA haven’t won jack yet.
As optimistic as I am about what’s going on, i won’t believe diddly squat until I see WINS on the field.
When that happens, then we can legitimately talk about what buffoons Cable and HueJack were.
May 9th, 2012 at 11:16 am
It’s a slow offseason. Some people like to talk politics among other things. I rather talk about weed (Legal in Cali), and talk about other sports.
May 9th, 2012 at 11:17 am
Raider O Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 11:16 am
It’s a slow offseason. Some people like to talk politics among other things. I rather talk about weed (Legal in Cali), and talk about other sports.
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co-sign
May 9th, 2012 at 11:17 am
Johnny, one thing I will give Cable…he was a better motivator than Hue Jack City was! Who was the last coach that swept the AFC West? I know, I know…we are the only team that swept the division and still missed the playoffs, but that right there was an accomplishment!
May 9th, 2012 at 11:18 am
257.Raider O Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 11:16 am
It’s a slow offseason. Some people like to talk politics among other things. I rather talk about weed (Legal in Cali), and talk about other sports.
Legal in Hawaii also…well…
May 9th, 2012 at 11:19 am
Cable would have had a chance to work under The Reggie.
But he has no use for selfish clowns like Hue Jackson.
May 9th, 2012 at 11:20 am
Hwnrdr,
After I imagined a car that doesn’t exist on my lot, gave info about that car, I had to create a salesman that doesn’t exist on my lot. We didn’t have a Steve in our sales department. Bait and switch!
What did Steve tell you? I’m sorry sir, but we don’t have a Steve in the sales department, let me show this other car, and I will give you a good price to make you forget about Steve and his mistake.
May 9th, 2012 at 11:21 am
Good move Reggie,
Its always good to hire someone you trust
And its good to get talent from rival teams
I’ll take Mark Sanchez 8 days out of the week over JaMarcus
May 9th, 2012 at 11:23 am
RASTA FARI 420 EVERYDAY BRADAH
Yo, The Beeech Diggity and Certified Platinum Posse just chillin out by the pool here at the Catamaran Mission Beach, getting our tan on
Just snuck a few tokes off my pipe in the game room, whuddup?
Got no important business meetings today, so takin’ a much needed day off. Went 15 rounds with a beach volleyball groupie last night and my nads and weiner-dog need some major jacuzzi action
Probably bust out some lyrics for all my blog brahs, stay tuned and stay IRIE, mon
BEEECH LIGGITY IN FULL EFFECT, POWER TO THE GANJ
May 9th, 2012 at 11:23 am
Raider O Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 11:13 am
LMAO ODB. Now I know why we couldn’t the right parts.
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that why you gotta order your parts after the wake and bake wears off and before the lunch time bump !!! lol lol lol
May 9th, 2012 at 11:24 am
Hwnrdr,
LOL
Legal for your brother.
May 9th, 2012 at 11:29 am
Raider O Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 11:20 am
Hwnrdr,
After I imagined a car that doesn’t exist on my lot, gave info about that car, I had to create a salesman that doesn’t exist on my lot. We didn’t have a Steve in our sales department. Bait and switch!
What did Steve tell you? I’m sorry sir, but we don’t have a Steve in the sales department, let me show this other car, and I will give you a good price to make you forget about Steve and his mistake.
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LMFAO !!! when i answer the phone i give my name, after taking an order or answering the customers question, if they ask for my name again i will tell them its George !!
May 9th, 2012 at 11:29 am
The Fat Monkey had to go. He started Fargas over DMAC and Bush, and he wanted to convert our best OL and LT to a C.
May 9th, 2012 at 11:29 am
DJ Johnny Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 11:15 am
233.HairyBush Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 10:52 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 10:49 am
that 59-14 thrashing was a thing of beauty!
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@hb 59-14 ??
SORRY. thanks for the correction
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That was one of those games worth remembering if you know what I mean. I look foward to the days in the future when we not only win but have a few blowouts to enjoy every season! It wasn’t good for my blood pressure in the past with to many nail biters.
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Yes and who was our coach that game? Tom Cable. We all like to make fun of him for whatever reason but the guy took over a messy situation and an 5-11 record and got us back to .500…sweeping the AFC West in the process.
You can say how much he sucked as a coach or throw in a few fat jokes and say how “it’s a new era” and how we’re gonna be a “real” organization now but given the situation Cable was in what coach, GM, whatever would have done better? We’ll never know, but we can talk all day about how things are so much better now and how things are changing so much for the better now that “the stink of Al” is gone, but Reggie and DA haven’t won jack yet.
As optimistic as I am about what’s going on, i won’t believe diddly squat until I see WINS on the field.
When that happens, then we can legitimately talk about what buffoons Cable and HueJack were.
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Not sure who you are directing this at but I never talked badly about Cable except his lame play calling. He had the guys motivated for the most part in his 8-8 season. I still defend Hue to this day. Yes, He was self serving but I liked his bravado amongst other things. I never spoke of getting rid of the stench of Al. Al is the Raiders. I do think there is reason for optimism in Oaktown. This upcoming year I am going to curb my enthusiasm but I do believe in year 3 and 4 of the Reggie regime there is some genuine hope. I do agree that if all these changes don’t translate into wins, who cares. Go Raiders.
May 9th, 2012 at 11:31 am
Pass that schit Goerge!
May 9th, 2012 at 11:31 am
Or George
lol
May 9th, 2012 at 11:32 am
ROFLMAO ODB.
I wonder why?
Still LMAO.
May 9th, 2012 at 11:38 am
slow day, so here we go
Cris Carter admits to bounties
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7907610/cris-carter-formerly-minnesota-vikings-admits-authorizing-bounties
May 9th, 2012 at 11:38 am
Btw, what was the purse for the Money/ Cotto fight?
May 9th, 2012 at 11:40 am
Romanowski Responds To Carter
May 9th, 2012 at 11:44 am
Heard C. Carter talking about that on sirius radio this morning.
May 9th, 2012 at 11:44 am
I’m sure it was under $60 million. Money vs. PAC will be close to $100.
May 9th, 2012 at 11:44 am
just cant remember what he said !! lol lol lol
May 9th, 2012 at 11:47 am
According to an article I just read. It was $40, $32 to Money, and $8 to Cotto.
It was 80/20!
May 9th, 2012 at 11:47 am
C Carter is a douche bag!
May 9th, 2012 at 11:49 am
262.Raider O Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 11:20 am
Hwnrdr,
After I imagined a car that doesn’t exist on my lot, gave info about that car, I had to create a salesman that doesn’t exist on my lot. We didn’t have a Steve in our sales department. Bait and switch!
What did Steve tell you? I’m sorry sir, but we don’t have a Steve in the sales department, let me show this other car, and I will give you a good price to make you forget about Steve and his mistake.
Hey, I remember doing that too! LOL
May 9th, 2012 at 11:52 am
A $100 million purse will be a new record, so split it 50/50, take the money, and box!
He is still bitter about his share from the Oscar fight.
May 9th, 2012 at 11:53 am
I bet you had a long list of “be backs”. “Hey, where’d your customer go?” …….”Oh, he’ll be back”.
May 9th, 2012 at 11:54 am
I will stick fight anyone in this blog for fifty thousand dollars.
May 9th, 2012 at 11:55 am
I hope you are not talking about me. I’m a closer. I didn’t make my money from having Be Backs!
May 9th, 2012 at 11:56 am
Pass that schit Goerge!
Or George
lol
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High azz MFer
May 9th, 2012 at 11:57 am
I also had the highest profit %.
May 9th, 2012 at 11:59 am
Btw, I never used a log book. If I can’t sell them, you can have them!
May 9th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
284.Just Win Baby Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 11:54 am
I will stick fight anyone in this blog for fifty thousand dollars.
Escrima?
May 9th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Vegas,
I’ll bet you when Canelo fights $$$$.
May 9th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
I remember when I started, I had a family that told me they were very interested, buy they had to think about it, so they will contact me later. I was do pumped, I ran to my manager’s office and told him the story (everybody was there), he called me an idiot, and they all started laughing. lol I learned my lesson that day, and the customer came back and bought the car.
May 9th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
Golden Boy promotions said he isn’t ready yet.
If he isn’t, he isn’t far away. That dudes body blow game is fierce!!!
May 9th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
Golden Boy promotions said he isn’t ready yet.
If he isn’t, he isn’t far away. That dudes body blow game is fierce!!!
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Maybe in a year
May 9th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
I forgot to add, my manager made me turn it to another salesman to make sure I learned me lesson. My 1st sale was 1/2 a car. lol
May 9th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
O Dog
You can sale cars, but can you sale ice to an Eskimo at a high price?
May 9th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
Who knows a website besides Ebay to find some nice shoes at a low price?
May 9th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
I sell at a dealership – internet sales – there’s some things that shouldn’t be done stoned.
May 9th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
I can SALE anything you can think of. “SALE”ing is a skill, but having a product that people need is always a plus.
May 9th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
What about Eastbay?
I am out the shoe game loop though, so they could be out of business these days for all I know.
If they don’t got black loafers or brown wingtips, I’m not interested, lol.
Eastbay did sell some Sean John dress shoes, lol.
May 9th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
Raider O Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
I remember when I started, I had a family that told me they were very interested, buy they had to think about it, so they will contact me later. I was do pumped, I ran to my manager’s office and told him the story (everybody was there), he called me an idiot, and they all started laughing. lol I learned my lesson that day, and the customer came back and bought the car.
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Not everybody rides the “be back” bus. Tough way to make a living.
May 9th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
Dave,
Like what?
May 9th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
What about Eastbay?
I am out the shoe game loop though, so they could be out of business these days for all I know.
If they don’t got black loafers or brown wingtips, I’m not interested, lol.
Eastbay did sell some Sean John dress shoes, lol.
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I still be rockin’ my wallabees, just like my pops.
lol
May 9th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
My buddy makes some good bread doing the internet sales thing for Toyota in Portland.
May 9th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
Raider O I imagine the story you told just now had to do with when you were a dumb-azz green pea. If you’ve been in the business more than 15 mins. we all have dumb-azz green pea stories.
May 9th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
My buddy makes some good bread doing the internet sales thing for Toyota in Portland.
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I do OK selling Kia’s in the ‘Ville. Great gig actually. Beats being on the point calling cars like the other folks.
May 9th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
YO LA RAIDERS COMING BACK HOME
Yo, check some tight 3D action of the Raider’s future home back in LA
http://espn.go.com/blog/los-angeles/nfl/post/_/id/820/aeg-releases-3d-video-of-farmers-field
Luckily I’ve already got my luxury box reserved, with special modifications to accommodate the PARTYDUDE 8000.
I’ll be sending out invites to Ice Cube when they announce the home opener
May 9th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
Dave,
Raider O Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
I forgot to add, my manager made me turn it to another salesman to make sure I learned me lesson. My 1st sale was 1/2 a car. lol
May 9th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
DMAC Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
Who knows a website besides Ebay to find some nice shoes at a low price?
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Try going to Rue La La they got good ish at good price!
May 9th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
r8eray Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
DMAC Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
Who knows a website besides Ebay to find some nice shoes at a low price?
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Try going to Rue La La they got good ish at good price!
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Is that a real place or are u just fk’n w/ me R8e?
lol
May 9th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
Raider O Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
Dave,
Raider O Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
I forgot to add, my manager made me turn it to another salesman to make sure I learned me lesson. My 1st sale was 1/2 a car. lol
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My first sales was to a dude that completely got hosed on a truck, like a 1990 Chevy with a 454. I walked the dude out of the store while my manager was trying to sell the dude the truck!!
I didn’t even realize I had done it! Guy bought the truck the next day but I certainly learned my lesson.
May 9th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
Anyone read the Pryor article on SI? Kind of makes you look at the kid in a different light…
I for one hope he makes it in the NFL. Hopefully with the Raiders!
May 9th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
You car salesmen are a shifty bunch, I must say.
May 9th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
Anyone read the Pryor article on SI?
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NO, is it in this week’s issue?
It comes in the mail on Thursday.
May 9th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
You car salesmen are a shifty bunch, I must say.
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LOL LOL.. wonder what that says about me. I sell cars one piece at a time !!
May 9th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
I’m glad this guy is going to be on the pro personnel side, not the college side.
May 9th, 2012 at 12:59 pm
I sell cars one piece at a time !!
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No offense, but I hate you guys.
Being a financial sales guy, I am pretty adapt at figuring what another salesman is trying to do, and am usually one step ahead of them.
But since I know squat about under the hood, I can never get a read on YOU PEOPLE!!
May 9th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/jim_trotter/05/09/terrelle.pryor/
May 9th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
Not sure I am buying the pay the house bills thing for 3K.
He could have taken a student loan at any time to do that if needed.
May 9th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
I cant believe the fat wannabee has a job.
Cable can coach circles around him
Cowboys defensive coordinator Rob Ryan blames himself for some of the struggles of the Dallas defense last season, saying that when he got to work after the lockout, he threw the whole defense at his team at once, instead of giving his players the time to slowly pick up the playbook.
Ryan, who was hired by the Cowboys last year, told Ian Rapoport of NFL.com that if he had it to do all over again, he’d just introduce basic concepts at first and expand as the season went on.
“When we look back at ourselves, reevaluate, I think I started too fast,” Ryan said. “I put in the accelerated program without English 101, which I always struggled with. You have to have a foundation. . . . It’s like getting a tutor. My kid gets a tutor, he gets 90s in math. He doesn’t? Forties. We need 90s or 100s.”
The Cowboys’ defense got better with the arrival of Ryan last season, and he’s confident that the defense will continue to improve with an offseason of installing the defense the way he wants.
“It just takes time to re-teach everything, get the fundamentals,” Ryan said. “We’re going to teach at a slower pace so we can actually learn. We tried to slow it down [in 2011], and it was a little tough for us. I got to look in the mirror, and that’s on me. I’m a better teacher than that. We come back to square one, and it’s gonna be great.”
May 9th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
Fourties in a Math class?
Man the Ryan’s are a stupid, rock-headed bunch.
May 9th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
Thanks for posting the link YA, I thought it was a great article. Considering he sold his britches for 3 grand to pay his moms heat bill and rent I have a hard time for faulting him for that.
May 9th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
Not sure I am buying the pay the house bills thing for 3K.
He could have taken a student loan at any time to do that if needed.
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Athletes on scholarship aren’t allowed to take student loans dude. Against NCAA rules…
May 9th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
Thx for the article YA.
I love the experience that TP has gone through. Its really showing what he is made of. I love the determination and work ethic he is showing. This experience will greatly help his career down the road.
May 9th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
I love what TP says about honoring AD’s final pick. Im rooting for the kid more and more every day.
May 9th, 2012 at 1:28 pm
this clinkscales guy also drafted dustin keller in the first round in 2008 at the 30th spot. not sure if thats a good thing or not. i reviewed all the jets first round draft picks since 1996 and they were all pretty good picks up until 2008 when they selected vernon gholsten (clinkscales first year there as talent evaluater).. their 2007 selection was derell revis. even so, im pretty interested to see what this guy brings to the table for us.
May 9th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
ok guys, who do you think will be carson palmers #1 go to guy this season? in other words, who do you see getting the most receptions/yards/tds?? my money is on DHB. i never thought i would be saying this but i actually think DHB has a chance to go to the pro bowl this season. 95-rec 1475-yds 12-tds
1-DHB
2-D Moore
3-D MAC
4-J Criner
5-D Ausberry
6-J Ford
7-L Murphy
May 9th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
YA I don’t know how you found that article but I’m very grateful you did. People have constantly tried to demonize this kid and say all kinds of crap about his abilities to play the position. But i studied this kid like no one else I’ve ever studied and he has everything you need to play that position at a highlevel. His talent is off the charts and his drive to be the best is on par with anyones.
Yet you have these haters who want to see the kid fail so they can throw more mud on MR Davis. Even if it hurts the team they’re only objective is to smear Mr Davis’ name. If what he says is true I beleive it is this kid did what any respectable kid would do if their family was suffering.
OSU made a ton of money off this kid and when things went sour they spit on him and blamed him for everything. I don’t blame the entire Uni. but the spin doctors responsible. Pryor won on the field was respectable in the classroom and what he got for that. Thrown out of school demonized and then victimized by the NFL to boot. And people wonder why I dispise the whole NCAA rackett.
I’m going to support this kid with every fiber of my being to be treated fairly. I’ve seen this crap damage so many young men like this kid I cannot find words to express my indignation. He deserve every right to fail at that position that everyone else has been afforded without the biased opinions of a slanted group robbing him of it.
YA thank you man I really appreciate. I’ll write Jim Trotter and express my apprecition to him as well. Since our own beat writers and blogger didn’t see the need to make this effort. Thanks again!!
May 9th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
Athletes on scholarship aren’t allowed to take student loans dude. Against NCAA rules…
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I just spent 20 minutes googling this and researching it, and did not find any evidence to support your claim.
If you got a link, I would love to read it.
May 9th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
J-Raider Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
ok guys, who do you think will be carson palmers #1 go to guy this season? in other words, who do you see getting the most receptions/yards/tds?? my money is on DHB. i never thought i would be saying this but i actually think DHB has a chance to go to the pro bowl this season. 95-rec 1475-yds 12-tds
1-DHB
2-D Moore
3-D MAC
4-J Criner
5-D Ausberry
6-J Ford
7-L Murphy
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DHB before DMO?
Criner before Ford???
Murphy won’t even be on the roster, T.O. will replace him.
Raider O must have hooked you up with some good stuff because your not thinking staight right now.
May 9th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
*straight
May 9th, 2012 at 1:48 pm
I’ll tell you what. There are some valid criticisms of Terrell Pryor – but work ethic isn’t one of them. If that kid ever gets a firm grasp of the mental aspects of the game (which is something most young quarterbacks struggle with), he’s going to be something special.
The best thing about the Pryor pick is that he’s in the perfect situation. Great support system in Carson Palmer, Matt Leinart, Greg Knapp, Al Saunders, etc.. No pressure to perform right away. He can sit and learn, which is a luxury that very few young QBs in this league get.
May 9th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
269.HairyBush Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 11:29 am
Not sure who you are directing this at but I never talked badly about Cable except his lame play calling.
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Not directed at you at all, just a general comment in regard to guys saying how things are so much better now that “the stench of Al” is gone.
I am glass full that we will be really good, but am cautious in my exuberance until I actually see this team play….and win.
I bring up Cable just cuz it never seemed like he got enough credit for the stuff he did do.
May 9th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
There are some valid criticisms of Terrell Pryor – but work ethic isn’t one of them.
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All starts there. Work ethic + ability. Let the coaches groom the rest.
May 9th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
Yo, just got super baked and watched The Descendants in the suite
That movie is straight off the chain
The Cloon-Dawg laid down his chops for real, and the older daughter is kind of babe the Beeech Diggity might consider dating
Gots to book a Kauai trip hella soon, word
May 9th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
HairyBush Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
J-Raider Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
ok guys, who do you think will be carson palmers #1 go to guy this season? in other words, who do you see getting the most receptions/yards/tds?? my money is on DHB. i never thought i would be saying this but i actually think DHB has a chance to go to the pro bowl this season. 95-rec 1475-yds 12-tds
1-DHB
2-D Moore
3-D MAC
4-J Criner
5-D Ausberry
6-J Ford
7-L Murphy
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DHB before DMO?
Criner before Ford???
Murphy won’t even be on the roster, T.O. will replace him.
Raider O must have hooked you up with some good stuff because your not thinking staight right now.
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Actually, say what you want about DHB, the dude came into his own with Palmer at the helm. Finally someone to get him the ball.
That being said, I can see DMoore easily being the go-to guy. Between him and DHB, imo.
May 9th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
269.HairyBush Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 11:29 am
Not sure who you are directing this at but I never talked badly about Cable except his lame play calling.
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Not directed at you at all, just a general comment in regard to guys saying how things are so much better now that “the stench of Al” is gone.
I am glass full that we will be really good, but am cautious in my exuberance until I actually see this team play….and win.
I bring up Cable just cuz it never seemed like he got enough credit for the stuff he did do.
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Makes you wonder what a lot of the coaches could have done here in the last decade had they been given a longer leash. (except for the bed n breakfast year, that had to be ended immedietley)
May 9th, 2012 at 1:55 pm
Priest, Jerry tweeted it this morning…but good article!
May 9th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
The Big Banana Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
HairyBush Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
J-Raider Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
ok guys, who do you think will be carson palmers #1 go to guy this season? in other words, who do you see getting the most receptions/yards/tds?? my money is on DHB. i never thought i would be saying this but i actually think DHB has a chance to go to the pro bowl this season. 95-rec 1475-yds 12-tds
1-DHB
2-D Moore
3-D MAC
4-J Criner
5-D Ausberry
6-J Ford
7-L Murphy
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DHB before DMO?
Criner before Ford???
Murphy won’t even be on the roster, T.O. will replace him.
Raider O must have hooked you up with some good stuff because your not thinking staight right now.
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Actually, say what you want about DHB, the dude came into his own with Palmer at the helm. Finally someone to get him the ball.
That being said, I can see DMoore easily being the go-to guy. Between him and DHB, imo.
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trust me I’m not hating on DHB at all. I think he will have a great year, just a little short of DMO.
May 9th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
except for the bed n breakfast year
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Easily the lowest point for all of us as Raider fans. That was paper-bag-over-your-head worthy.
May 9th, 2012 at 1:58 pm
The Big Banana Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
except for the bed n breakfast year
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Easily the lowest point for all of us as Raider fans. That was paper-bag-over-your-head worthy.
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we had like 3 primetime games that year and we got destroyed in every one! SD, SEA, and BAL I believe.
May 9th, 2012 at 2:00 pm
340.HairyBush Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 1:58 pm
The Big Banana Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
except for the bed n breakfast year
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Easily the lowest point for all of us as Raider fans. That was paper-bag-over-your-head worthy.
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we had like 3 primetime games that year and we got destroyed in every one! SD, SEA, and BAL I believe.
Didn’t we get blanked in all 3? I know SD was 27-0 (Rivers first start in the post Brees era), Seattle I believe was 12-0 or 13-0….not sure about BALT
May 9th, 2012 at 2:00 pm
On Phillip Wheeler – would be VERY interested to see this kid take the starting WLB/ROLB spot.
Dude has a lot of untapped potential as a pass rusher. Colts didn’t use their LBs to rush the passer very often because that was Mathis and Freeney’s job.
Better in coverage than Wimbley and Curry, good range v.s. the run… of all the bargain bin pickups this season, this is the one dude I could see getting a contract extension after the season.
3-4 looks could be intimidating with McClain and Curry at ILB and Wheeler and Burris at OLB.
May 9th, 2012 at 2:01 pm
That Seattle game was the infamous Tyler Brayton knee to the balls to Jeremy Stephen’s ba**s game!
May 9th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
LO, sorry for the redundancy!
May 9th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
Ugh, don’t remind me. The image of Shell Part II walking the sidelines with his clipboard on primetime TV is very troubling.
Press – ‘Art, what do you write on your clipboard?’
Shell – ‘Oh different observations. Like today I wrote that we need to run more screen plays’
LOL!
May 9th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
TP’s as talented as he needs to be and then some, Palmer himself is working on his game. There’s no shame in his shortcomings there’s only shame if he doesn’t work on them. When people sya this kid isn’ty accurate, they don’t know what their talking about. That’s not his issuehe’s just underdeveloped in terms of throwing MOTION not accuracy. Throwing mechanics helps you with consistency game in game out. Speeding up his game is just reps for better timing and getting comfortable with NFL defenses reading and anticipating. That can only get better with reps. As a prostect he’s right there with RGIII and Luck they’re just much further along because of teh way they were used. 2-3 years from now that will be unrecognizable………….period
May 9th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
I just read that Jerry Rice is saying that we should sign T.O.
May 9th, 2012 at 2:08 pm
Just wait until you see this kid after a couple of offseasons and training camps. You’ll be demanding he play then.
May 9th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
I agree that his accuracy is not the problem. Like Palmer, his problem is decision-making. His completion % is solid, but a few times a game he would just make dumb throws. Could be not looking off the safety, or making the wrong read, or simply trying too hard to make things happen. If he can iron out those inconsistencies in him game? He’ll be the QB of the Future. That’s easier said than done, though.
May 9th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
@342,
as we say in German: Wort.
May 9th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
Yo, getting set up for Rasta Ganja rehearsal, got a new jam inspired by The Descendants
It’s called “Gettin’ HIGHwaii” (get it, like getting baked in hawaii but it’s all one word)
This jam will feature smooth bass and acoustic guitar and our drummer will use chopsticks to express extra special emotions
Clooney, Mon, you know you be stylin’
Chaka Brah, represent the Big Island
Yo let’s get hella high and hit the waves on our board
Straight up, this flick shoulda won da Academy Award*
*although it did win a best adapted screenplay award, it lost in the main category to the artist
May 9th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
As far as DHB goes I told you guys 2 years ago by year 4 this kid would be lethal. You think you saw something last year……..LOL
You haven’t seen NUTTIN yet he’s just now figuring it all out. When he’s no longer thinking just playing and his physical and mental become natural. Then you’ll see what that kid is capable of. Last year he just scratched the surface.
May 9th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
YA nothing worth while is easy, this is the NFL only the dogged determined survive. TP aint no joke just let me say that. It’ll be 4-5 years from before he’s where he’s using his instincts and playing the way he will throughout his career. He started late but he’ll take that job a lot sooner than most people think.
May 9th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
priesttj Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
I’m going to support this kid with every fiber of my being.
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No, please don’t. Pryor has enough to handle without an Al Davis succubus giving him head trips. We don’t need another Arman Shields.
May 9th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
He may be figuring some things out, but the QB position also held him back. Notice the timing of his increased production last year. Tough to do anything when the ball’s sailing out of bounds. Kid can go as far as he wants now.
May 9th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
349.YoungAmerican Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
I agree that his accuracy is not the problem. Like Palmer, his problem is decision-making. His completion % is solid, but a few times a game he would just make dumb throws. Could be not looking off the safety, or making the wrong read, or simply trying too hard to make things happen. If he can iron out those inconsistencies in him game? He’ll be the QB of the Future. That’s easier said than done, though.
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I like Carson Palmer ALOT but the first time i admit i started doubting him was that GB game.
We were moving the ball on that first possession and he tossed up that lame int. Then…he threw that bad int. in the endzone before half.
Not to say that now i’m a “doubter”, but that game was really disappointing for him…and all of us i guess.
May 9th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
You car salesmen are a shifty bunch, I must say.
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Not all of us! Some are actually straightforward and quite honest. I love telling the most arrogant *uck that get’s in my face about he wants “this price” and “this payment” to go *uck himself because with your credit you couldn’t finance the steam off a cheeseburger!
May 9th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
Not to happy about this scouting department RM is putting together…
I mean, the recent jets draft have been average at least…. why hire a guy from there?
why not a baltimore or steeler scout?…
Not impressed at all. Reggie hiring his brother?…
The scouts Al Davis had were really good…
May 9th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
If TP does not become an All-Pro, Priest is gonna blame Reggie. Watch.
May 9th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
Trade DMAC for the steam off a cheeseburger!
May 9th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
Pryor 2016. He’ll peak just as CP is slowing down. Right on time to continue the oncoming dynasty.
May 9th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
353.priesttj Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
YA nothing worth while is easy, this is the NFL only the dogged determined survive. TP aint no joke just let me say that. It’ll be 4-5 years from before he’s where he’s using his instincts and playing the way he will throughout his career. He started late but he’ll take that job a lot sooner than most people think.
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I read that article and here is a guy working out 6 days a week. Tremendous attitude. He really wants it.
A shame a guy like that doesn’t get a chance but a guy like Russell has it all handed to him on a silver platter and pizzes it all away.
Pryor WILL get his shot though. He knows it. He’s not going to leave this league without at least getting a chance to show something in a game situation.
Let’s hope when it does come he can handle the jitters. That’s alot of pressure knowing “if i screw this up i’m probably done”.
May 9th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
I’m quite sure that one cannot “finance” a 458 Spyder…Least to God, I pray you can’t.
Finally some attention to the LB Corps…
Sign Sam Sword and it is on!
May 9th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
Guys let me say this, Reggie aint stupid. Neither is DA when a kid goes about his work like this kid is with that kind of talent. Reggie knows the only thing athat can hold him back is coaching. I gaurantee you guys and I said the the minute Reggie commented on Pryor publicly. DA has his marching orders and so do the rest of these coaches Reggie LIKES TP……….I know you don’t believe me but I’m telling he liked TP before he EVER took this job……………period
May 9th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
priesttj Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
You haven’t seen NUTTIN yet he’s just now figuring it all out. When he’s no longer thinking just playing and his physical and mental become natural. Then you’ll see what that kid is capable of. Last year he just scratched the surface
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I became a believer in DHB last year. He’s got the will, and he’s finally developing the ability. Should be a very good #2 for years
May 9th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
JT Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
Not to happy about this scouting department RM is putting together…
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scouts go out & get what the GM wants. who knows what regg mac wants better than his bro & high school friend? I hope they stick together for 30+ yrs too. Just Win Baby!
May 9th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
what an idiotic statement by Corkran ‘Clinkscales was responsible for Sanchez, Gholston…’
Joey wasn’t GM or HC or Owner. Clinkscales didn’t choose anybody. For all Corkran knows Joey might’ve said “these guys suck”.
More’n likely he gave an opinion. If the owner or GM or HC wanted an “upside” he could tell them what he thought.
“Downside” as well.
Get a grip Corky. Journalism doesn’t have to equate with Jerry Springer.
May 9th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
Michele Bachmann, Swiss Miss
BY CELESTE KATZ
Rep. Michele Bachmann has been granted dual citizenship in Switzerland, which makes her eligible to seek political office there, spox Becky Rogness confirmed.
Our Aliyah Shahid reports:
The former GOP presidential hopeful qualified for citizenship because of her marriage to Marcus Bachmann, who is of Swiss descent.
Rogness told Minnesota Public Radio that some of the lawmaker’s children wanted to apply for dual citizenship, so they went through the process as a family.
Bachmann is seeking her fourth term in Congress.
The Tea Party favorite dropped out of the presidential race in January after a sixth-place performance in the Iowa caucuses.
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Look at that Socialist thing.
May 9th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
Coaching is not what will hold back Pryor.
The kid’s ability to mature and change his game to suit the NFL is the key.
May 9th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
369. As long as CP stays healthy and plays well, Pryor has time to grow.
May 9th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
BoSJack,
the “steam off a cheeseburger” is too much to ask.
that has a degree of etheric substance.
May 9th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
KrappyRat, The Troll King
Me and my blog brahs were having a great time gettin’ high and rapping until you waddled in with another lame cut and paste job
Why don’t you and your boyfriend Becker trot on over to the “Overweight Idiots Talkin’ Politics” blog and lay a steamy duece over there
Get it together, old fool
May 9th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
Michele Bachmann’s Swiss citizenship:
The former presidential candidate, Tea Party favorite, and socialism-hater is officially a European — triggering a celebration in irony land
http://theweek.com/article/index/227790/michele-bachmanns-swiss-citizenship-the-best-jokes
May 9th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
Come the third week of December Bolon Yokte will be quarterbacking the come what may.
May 9th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
M Lonetree Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
BoSJack,
the “steam off a cheeseburger” is too much to ask.
that has a degree of etheric substance.
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Perhaps, but I find a certain aptness in the comparison…as in, a whiff of something promising.
Synonym: wish sandwich
May 9th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
A blow to freedom lovers
Don’t tell Bachmann, but “all Swiss citizens are required to purchase basic health insurance” under the the country’s tyrannical health care system, says Noah Kristula-Green at The Daily Beast. Worse still, the system “has transparent costs, it is consumer driven, and it provides near universal coverage.”
http://theweek.com/article/index/227790/michele-bachmanns-swiss-citizenship-the-best-jokes
May 9th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
Ha ha, calm down KrappyRat!
You’re going to sprain your finger cut and pasting so fast, then how are you going prepare KrappyWife’s dinner?
Please don’t overheat while trolling, it’ll just make us laugh harder
May 9th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
Michele Bachmann’s Swiss citizenship:
The former presidential candidate, Tea Party favorite, and socialism-hater is officially a European — triggering a celebration in irony land
http://theweek.com/article/index/227790/michele-bachmanns-swiss-citizenship-the-best-jokes
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Boy, those people continue to impress. Lmao.
May 9th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
Still looking for something, ANYTHING, that says NCAA scholarship athletes can’t take student loans.
Not finding anything that even hints at it.
May 9th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
JFB
Post #378, is rich, no?
May 9th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
KrappyRat, kinda sad that no one has responded to your 3 identical cut and paste jobs. Even sadder that you’re now begging for attention.
Don’t you have any actual friends you can troll politics with?
May 9th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
Aha…..I think I finally found it.
“NCAA scholarship athletes MAY NOT take a student loan that exceeds 20K, however this is only applied to student-athletes that had qualified for the NCAA’s disability insurance for elite student-athletes. Currently, that would apply to student-athletes who are projected to be drafted in the first round of the NBA, MLB, or WNBA Draft or first three rounds of the NFL or NHL Draft.”
May 9th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
Hehehe, too funny. JFB.
May 9th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
So not sure if TP qualified for the disability insurance (and applied for it) as a Freshman, but chances are he could have taken a student loan and easily paid off Mom’s bills without breaking any NCAA violations.
May 9th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
Bachman is a religous fanatic, extremist, wing-nut.
We are throwing out all extremists wing-nuts, starting in November.
May 9th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
Bachman is a religous fanatic, extremist, wing-nut.
We are throwing out all extremists wing-nuts, starting in November.
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Does that include friends of the “dirt route” lobby”? Just askin’
May 9th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
Yo, just kicked this verse with Rasta Ganja for our newest jam “Hot Babes Give Me Wood”
This song is about contemplating the existence of the human soul in relation to one’s previous dismissal of existential possibilities
And about getting way laid by chicks with huge racks
When my willy gets excited, girl,
You’ll get invited
To view my increase in size
You’ll be pleasantly surprised
Now stop wasting time
And hop in your Camaro
I’m sporting full wood
Yeah girl, it’s as straight as an arrow
RUFFLES DO IN FACT HAVE RIDGES
May 9th, 2012 at 3:29 pm
Dawg,
If your pecker looks anything like a Ruffles potato chip I’d have that looked at.
May 9th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
Let’s see if the Knicks can keep it entertaining tonight.
I am not too confident.
May 9th, 2012 at 3:40 pm
J-Raider Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 1:28 pm
this clinkscales guy also drafted dustin keller in the first round in 2008 at the 30th spot. not sure if thats a good thing or not. i reviewed all the jets first round draft picks since 1996 and they were all pretty good picks up until 2008 when they selected vernon gholsten (clinkscales first year there as talent evaluater).. their 2007 selection was derell revis. even so, im pretty interested to see what this guy brings to the table for us.
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Don’t know what to make of personnel department moves yet, time will tell.
Reggie Mac bringing in his former teammate and twin and even his co-worker from Green Bay to replace the longtime senior scouts certainly could draw some legitimate criticism or at least questions.
Apparently, Clinkscales was with the Jets many years and they have had some success in personnel and the draft and have made some blunders. Given the need for a top QB it’s hard to fault taking calculated risk high in the draft. On the surface it looks like Clinkscales record is not good enough to get hired as GM but maybe well qualified for a slightly lower position; we’ll see what his role is and how he does
Herock’s record in Green Bay seems to qualify him for the position he was hired for
Raleigh McKenzie’s 17 years in the NFL probably compares favorably to most scouts’ qualifications, but he’s been away from pro football for years, though he has coached high school football. Hard to believe he would have been hired to scout if his brother weren’t GM. He’s a good body double. We’ll see how he does as a scout
I believe there are no restrictions on NFL front office personnel under contract with one team from being offered a job with another team, in which case Reggie Mac could hire anyone. Does anyone know if there are restrictions here?
May 9th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
Too bad Penn State stunk so bad last year we don’t get any ESPN8 or whatever replays of some of their games last year (since we drafted two of their players).
Saw some of SDSU’s bowl game, and couldn’t even find the LB we drafted. I watched a whole quarter and his name was never called, couldn’t tell which one he was, and the D was getting scorched.
Utah…..prob not either. Same goes for Georgia State.
Guess it is youtube clips, lol
May 9th, 2012 at 3:45 pm
Apparently Clinkscales was with Jets as talent evaluator for many years and then promoted to VP of College Scouting in 2008. Not sure of his contribution to / final decisionmaking authority on Jets draft picks before and after becoming VP
what I meant to say but somehow wrote several paragraphs in last post without saying
May 9th, 2012 at 3:54 pm
I just wanna hear Colonel Clink say: “Hogannnnnnnnnnnn”.
May 9th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
I wanna hear General Burkhalter say…”Cliink…You Idiot!” lol
May 9th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
RaiderLen,
That was good, you are formidable.
May 9th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
RaiderLen,
That was good, you are formidable.
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If by formidable, you mean old, then I would have to agree. lol
May 9th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
Joey Clinks sounds like a good mafia name.
I like Michelle Bachman. Anyone that’s adopted as many kids as she has, has a good heart.
I don’t know if TP will pan out as an NFL QB, but I do think the 3rd round pick expended on him was a very good gamble.
He’s got the size and speed to excel as a TE or even as a WR if he doesn’t pan out at QB.
Lots of talk that drafting TP with a 3rd was a ‘reach’.
I think Al’s final pick will prove to be a very wise one.
May 9th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
I’m a bit tepid on the Raleigh, Herrock, and Clinksdale hiring’s but understand why Reggie brought these guys in.
Chemistry and familiarity.
None of these guys can blow smoke up Reggie’s arse and Reggie knows he’ll get unvarnished opinions.
May 9th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
I’m in the TP corner for the long haul.
The Raiders Need a 10 yr franchise QB.
For Him, and us as fans, I want Him to succeed.
May 9th, 2012 at 4:44 pm
Brahs, heading back from the pool after a long day of gently massaging my dode and nut sack under the jacuzzi jets
Totally sunburned my abs, only used a few sprays of African Volcanic Tanning Cream
Time to shower up, pop on a bow tie and head out for Mai Tai’s and milf hunting
Problem is there’s only 1 Magnum left, will have to wash it out a few times and rotate if it’s going to last the night
YOU KNOW HOW THEM BIG DAWGS BARK
May 9th, 2012 at 4:59 pm
I think it shows you the disarray Republicans are in. Their voters haven’t given up on their first choices. That’s why Bachman’s still a story. They don’t like Romney. They’re not excited about him. They’re not inspired by him. They hardly mention his name. Romney does not have the GOP base. Let Ron Paul run as an independent, it’s a wrap. Split conservative vote. Democrats can save their war chest for Hillary in 2016.
May 9th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
The Raiders Need a 10 yr franchise QB.
For Him, and us as fans, I want Him to succeed.
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Absolutely.
Pryor emerging as a Pro Bowl QB, would be the best thing to happen to this franchise in 10 maybe 25 years.
May 9th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
The Raiders Need a 10 yr franchise QB.
For Him, and us as fans, I want Him to succeed.
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Absolutely.
Pryor emerging as a Pro Bowl QB, would be the best thing to happen to this franchise in 10 maybe 25 years.
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Alright JFB…I’d say 25 years….Stabler was the last.
You left out the 1st part of my comment…long haul…
Ya gotta commit to TP as you have with “Savage”..lol
May 9th, 2012 at 5:21 pm
No dis respect to Mr Plunkett by the way.
Just looking at it from the draft/develop point of view.
May 9th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
Ya gotta commit to TP as you have with “Savage”..lol
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Savage was an unquestioned starter from day 1.
Tough curve to grade TP on
May 9th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
Unfortunately, there is no “long haul” for teams anymore with QB’s.
People talking 4-5 years for Pryor are crazy. His contract is up after 2014, he will certainly get some starts before than, and it don’t matter if it is 5 games ,if he plays well he will get resigned and given the starting job, if he doesn’t he will be canned and sent out of town.
Nobody gets 35-45 games to figure it out.
May 9th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
Ya gotta commit to TP as you have with “Savage”..lol
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Savage was an unquestioned starter from day 1.
Tough curve to grade TP on
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True.
As much as I hate on “Savage” he has managed to stick around.
Just for less now. lol
May 9th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
Just for less now. lol
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A testament to his character, IMO.
Don’t fret though, as the charter member of the Savage fan club, I get unfettered access to our boy, and I am almost positive he will retire at the end of this season.
May 9th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
It will be tough to say goodbye to Savage at the end of the year.
I may drink a 14 pack of Rolling Rocks and play Free Bird 20 times in a row and pretend I am not crying.
May 9th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
Unfortunately, there is no “long haul” for teams anymore with QB’s.
People talking 4-5 years for Pryor are crazy. His contract is up after 2014, he will certainly get some starts before than, and it don’t matter if it is 5 games ,if he plays well he will get resigned and given the starting job, if he doesn’t he will be canned and sent out of town.
Nobody gets 35-45 games to figure it out.
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Pryor can certainly get 3 to 4 considering Palmer and his age, but I agree that patience is limited by shortened tenures of coaches and front offices.
Winning allows for longer term projects.
May 9th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
A testament to his character, IMO.
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I could interpret it that way.
May 9th, 2012 at 5:42 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
It will be tough to say goodbye to Savage at the end of the year.
I may drink a 14 pack of Rolling Rocks and play Free Bird 20 times in a row and pretend I am not crying.
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LOL!
“If I leave here tomorrow, will you still remember me”, “for I must be travelin on now…”
Make sure you’ve got the Bic lighter and are in a darkened room. lol
May 9th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
Anyone complaining about some old dudes leaving are probably as old or older!!
Get rid of the past!
What about those Nuggets last night? Kobe played the entire 2nd half. Nuggets bringing it back to Smogville!!!
May 9th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
303Raider Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
Anyone complaining about some old dudes leaving are probably as old or older!!
Get rid of the past!
What about those Nuggets last night? Kobe played the entire 2nd half. Nuggets bringing it back to Smogville!!!
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Nothing wrong with a spring cleaning.
I haven’t heard that Mickey Marvin or Calvin Branch have been given pink slips, so it appears as though Reggie is discriminate in wielding the ax.
May 9th, 2012 at 6:08 pm
Really starting to like some of the things I hear from and about Pryor. Working 6 days a week in the offseason is exactly what he needs to be doing.
“I feel like if I take a day off, somebody is outworking me and I’m losing an opportunity to get a percentage point better”
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/jim_trotter/05/09/terrelle.pryor/index.html#ixzz1uQNdG1Wb
May 9th, 2012 at 6:13 pm
Hope Colonel Clinkscales picks winners…
Go Raiders!~
May 9th, 2012 at 6:14 pm
TP sold his pants to keep a roof over his mother and isters head and the electric on during the winter…monster…
If Reggie’s serious about hard working character guys I hope Pryor makes the cut.
May 9th, 2012 at 6:16 pm
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d828f8974/article/rob-ryan-expects-more-from-dallas-cowboys-defense-in-2012?module=HP11_content_stream
Rob is explaining his knocked up version of defense. No due date has been set, but expect something premature perhaps. Yes, we may have a winner.
May 9th, 2012 at 6:16 pm
Except that Aaron Rodgers dude and that Rich Gannon guy. Jebuz, didn’t it take him like 17 yrs to get it rollin’? lol!
May 9th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
2 hours and 45 mins. away from from nasty bong hits.
May 9th, 2012 at 6:24 pm
Lol beat ya to em Dave!!
May 9th, 2012 at 6:27 pm
So what are the go to munchies these days?
Haven’t smoked for 40yrs…lol
Used to like BBQ chips and McDonalds filet o fish, and peanut M&M’s.
May 9th, 2012 at 6:28 pm
30 years….I must be high….lol
May 9th, 2012 at 6:28 pm
R8ER MIKE Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 6:24 pm
Lol beat ya to em Dave!!
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F’you Mike!!!! I’m still working!!!!
May 9th, 2012 at 6:29 pm
Zzzzzzzzzzz wake me at training camp
May 9th, 2012 at 6:30 pm
RaiderLen Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 6:27 pm
So what are the go to munchies these days?
Haven’t smoked for 40yrs…lol
Used to like BBQ chips and McDonalds filet o fish, and peanut M&M’s.
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I don’t get the munchies RaiderLen. I eat a meal before getting high!
May 9th, 2012 at 6:34 pm
I don’t get the munchies RaiderLen. I eat a meal before getting high!
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I remember food tasting better after the fact. lol
May 9th, 2012 at 6:34 pm
Cinnanom Melts from Mickey D’s was a prayer sent from Stoner heaven.
May 9th, 2012 at 6:35 pm
Dakota Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 6:29 pm
Zzzzzzzzzzz wake me at training camp
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Hibernation mode for Dakota.
May 9th, 2012 at 6:35 pm
Len and Dave I am a old east coast stoner. And Len those munchies still work!!!! lol lol
And go CAPS!!!!!
May 9th, 2012 at 6:36 pm
Green Party rules!!!!
May 9th, 2012 at 6:42 pm
Oh damnable talking weed and hockey. Hope RRS isn’t around!!!
May 9th, 2012 at 6:44 pm
I think some of you boys need to put down the pipe, and pickup a newspaper, or an elementary school book.
May 9th, 2012 at 6:49 pm
go Raiders!
May 9th, 2012 at 7:07 pm
KK maybe you should pick up the pipe and stop being such a yuppie d!ck head fck.!!
May 9th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
Caps win!!!
May 9th, 2012 at 7:13 pm
Whats up raider brethren. Man,you guys need to stop with the weed talk. Its been 4 years for me since I stop due to loss of connection and can’t seem to find one anywhere. Being in socal OC you would think it be pretty easy to find one. Lol…
Help anyone? Lol….
May 9th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
[...] Report: Raiders hire one of Jets top college scouts On the same day the Raiders announced the departure of four long-time employees in the player-personnel department, ESPN reported that Joey Clinkscales is leaving the New York Jets for a front-office position with the Raiders. Clinkscales was the Jet… [...]
May 9th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
LMAO!!!
That Rays guy just hit a 3 run homer in the 9th, all the while rolling his ankle while swinging.
Got to say, I am not sure I have ever seen that, and I watch an unhealthy amount of baseball.
That is going to be shown forever!!!
May 9th, 2012 at 7:21 pm
RaiderRumor: Rihanna and Run DMC caught kisses in Hawaii..
May 9th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
Here is something to read other than the policial crap that’s been going on in here.
Here’s how you know Darren McFadden is officially an NFL superstar. TMZ reports that pop sensation Rihanna is denying rumors that she is dating Run DMC. Apparently there is talk that the two were seen making out in Hawaii just a few weeks back.
But you don’t reach TMZ status by scamming with pop stars alone. Lots of folks do that. Hell, for most bartenders on the Sunset strip that’s just a typical Saturday night. You’d think there would be more to this story…right?
You’d be correct.
The report goes on to claim that McFadden met Rihanna in Honolulu where he introduced himself to her with his girl standing right there with him. Next thing you know the happy trio was said to have enjoyed drinks on the beach courtesy of Rihanna who was in the Hi-State on business prompting her new flick Battleship.
While Rihanna is claiming she’s just friends with McFadden she was sporting a silver and black jersey in a NYC strip club last week. I guess that’s just coincidence. Far be it for me to intimate McFadden is stiff arming his girl to make an open field run for Rihanna’s goalposts. Could just be that Rihanna is working her way north through Cali having had a brief fling L.A. Dodger Matt Kemp not too long ago.
May 9th, 2012 at 7:33 pm
Oye……Rihanna….blah…burned out lil skank; bubble butt and a face that is ugly as the day is long.
She just nasty, and the people she hangs with – nasty too.
I don’t blame her X-BF, that spoiled dumb kid for knocking her around. I am sure she has a real garbage mouth and uses it badly.
Thumbs down, McFadden. Find another, cleaner skank.
May 9th, 2012 at 7:34 pm
There’s absolutely no reason for Raider fans to accept a 3-5 yr. rebuild scenario.
Carolina Panthers went to the NFC Championship THEIR 2ND YR. OF EXISTENCE…
Raiders are coming off of 2 consecutive 8-8 seasons and are for the most part a young team with crafty veterans in the positions that there should be crafty veterans.
This IS NOT an expansion team.
To be accepting of a 3-5 yr. rebuild is ridiculous.
If Reggie needs that much time to win with this team than he wasn’t the right guy in the first place.
I don’t care how much of “the stank of Al” has to be removed.
Al built a .500 team.
Reggie has not been handed an over the hill 2-14 team.
Lets expect big things.
May 9th, 2012 at 7:34 pm
McFadden is going to get played like a fool.
Ri-Ri??? Really?
She ain’t even that hot!!!
May 9th, 2012 at 7:36 pm
To be accepting of a 3-5 yr. rebuild is ridiculous.
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I am not accepting anything close to that.
I think the only people looking at 3-5 year rebuild as acceptable are the “I hate Carson Palmer and love Terrell Pryor” group.
May 9th, 2012 at 7:36 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 7:34 pm,
I don’t care how much of “the stank of Al” has to be removed.
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Lol, watch it Johnny. Using that sort of language could resusitate AL D. Davis, at any time.
May 9th, 2012 at 7:39 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 7:36 pm
“I hate Carson Palmer and love Terrell Pryor”
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Fire,
Come on man, who could love Terrell Pryor at this point when he has only played a single down in the NFL??
May 9th, 2012 at 7:41 pm
Oh they are out there.
I am certainly looking forward to seeing him play in the preseason though.
May 9th, 2012 at 7:45 pm
446.Hardline Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 7:36 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 7:34 pm,
I don’t care how much of “the stank of Al” has to be removed.
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Lol, watch it Johnny. Using that sort of language could resusitate AL D. Davis, at any time.
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Did I get the “stank of Al” thing from one of your posts? I know i read it somewhere lol.
May 9th, 2012 at 7:52 pm
DJ,
You didn’t get it from Hardline, but AL D. Davis, before banishment, lol. AL D. Davis was famous for phrases like stank AL, the stank of AL, attenuate the taint, cue ball bald pate (Hue’s head), Hue the Pimpin Magnificient, ax handle welcome – tarred and feathered, run out of town, snipped at the city limits (what Hue should have done to our CB crew and poorly performing defensivemen.)
Watch out AL D. Davis is still there and waiting…..
May 9th, 2012 at 7:59 pm
I miss good ole Al D. Davis.
He was/is a caring nurturer.
May 9th, 2012 at 8:06 pm
448.Just Fire Baby Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 7:41 pm
Oh they are out there.
I am certainly looking forward to seeing him play in the preseason though.
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Just,
For some reason I doubt Pryor gets much playing time in preseason. It’s just a feeling I have. He should have been put in games we were losing last season, in which CP blew with INT’s.
GB is a prime example of that: if were HC I would have benched CP at halftime and handed the ball to Pryor. I would have told him we’ll call what plays you know, but what I want you to do is just run, and pass on the run to any open receiver…..just be spontaneous and get the ball down the field.
I believe he would have had success. Plays Hue called were lame and made us one dimentional. Bush up the middle for no gain; Bush again up the middle for no gain; GB blitz, CP throws and INT, GB’s ball.
Hue was an idiot and in the words of the infamous AL D. Davis, had an 8 ball, bald pate, 3 inches thick like Cro-Magnon Man. Unwieldly stubbord with a lack of intelligence. The guy was incapable of operating a wheelbarrel, let alone an NFL team.
Let’s hope DA doesn’t make the same mistake with Pryor. There is a certain point where Pryor preparation has to lead to playing.
I hope when Pryor does play he just chucks the playbook runs and passes like the wind on his on accord.
May 9th, 2012 at 8:07 pm
Hey. We’re coming up on 12 weeks away from our first preseason game.
May 9th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
451.DJ Johnny Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 7:59 pm
I miss good ole Al D. Davis.
He was/is a caring nurturer.
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Johnny,
Now don’t go soft on us. I miss Al in his early and middle years. The later years…..weren’t so keen.
May 9th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
Hardline,
I was talking about the banned poster Al D. Davis. I know you two are very close pals.
I didn’t always agree with him…but I understood where he was coming from.
May 9th, 2012 at 8:14 pm
Cantor Gaming releases point spreads for weeks 1-16…
Raiders favored against Jags, Bucs, Browns, and 2nd Chiefs game.
Place your bets now brothers. Raiders will shock the world.
May 9th, 2012 at 8:17 pm
I used to go to Raider games at the Colisium in LA. Specifically I kept my eyes on Bo Jackson. Bo was unbelievable. You could almost see the energy pulsating out of his body. He stayed right next to HC Flores. Before every new play Bo would be engaging Flores verbally. One knew he was trying to talk himself into the play.
Every play Bo was in there was an excruciating anticipation he would take it to the house. I knew Bo didn’t care about the play called at all. When he got the ball, he ran where ever he could, one cut and he was out of the house.
I really doubt Bo followed any playbook. With so much talent all he needed was the ball. The rest he could do himself. Truly, if one never saw Bo and Marcus tandem, you missed one of sports greatest shows.
May 9th, 2012 at 8:18 pm
455.DJ Johnny Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
Hardline,
I was talking about the banned poster Al D. Davis. I know you two are very close pals.
I didn’t always agree with him…but I understood where he was coming from.
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Sorry Johnny,
Misunderstood. I knew you were one of the people who knew my true intent.
Thanks
May 9th, 2012 at 8:29 pm
Cross-Posters = The Defeated.
May 9th, 2012 at 8:39 pm
459.KoolKell Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 8:29 pm
Cross-Posters = The Defeated.
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That’s true RMR.
May 9th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
It’s all good Hardline.
May 9th, 2012 at 9:00 pm
RaiderSam Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 7:27 am
WTF Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 7:12 am
I’m all for bringing in new scouts. But hiring his twin brother is pure nepotism. And then he hires his longtime friend, and let’s face it the jets don’t blow my socks with personnel decisions they have made.
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Did Al Davis blow your socks off with the personnel decisions he made? that Gruden to the Bucs one was pretty awesome?
How about Randy Moss?
Warren Sapp?
and of course MeAngelo Hall for a 2nd rounder, then dealing him away right during the season when the accelerators in his contract became guaranteed
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RaiderSam
Did you even read my post or did you just not understand it. First sentence “I’m all for bringing in new scouts.” When did I say anything about previous regime (either praise or criticize)? I was just pointing out that hiring a longtime friend after hiring twin brother didn’t sound like a good idea. So I guess your argument is that Reggie can fill out personnel staff with friends and family and it’s alright because they can’t do any worse than the previous regime. Nice, aim high
May 9th, 2012 at 9:03 pm
I’m no draft guru, but I recall when the Jets took Mark Sanchez saying, “No, a big mistake.” And it has been. He’s nothing more than a mediocre player.
May 9th, 2012 at 9:07 pm
R8ER MIKE Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 7:07 pm
KK maybe you should pick up the pipe and stop being such a yuppie d!ck head fck.!!
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Too damn funny!
May 9th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
Raider2DaHeart Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
Here is something to read other than the policial crap that’s been going on in here.
Here’s how you know Darren McFadden is officially an NFL superstar. TMZ reports that pop sensation Rihanna is denying rumors that she is dating Run DMC. Apparently there is talk that the two were seen making out in Hawaii just a few weeks back.
But you don’t reach TMZ status by scamming with pop stars alone. Lots of folks do that. Hell, for most bartenders on the Sunset strip that’s just a typical Saturday night. You’d think there would be more to this story…right?
You’d be correct.
The report goes on to claim that McFadden met Rihanna in Honolulu where he introduced himself to her with his girl standing right there with him. Next thing you know the happy trio was said to have enjoyed drinks on the beach courtesy of Rihanna who was in the Hi-State on business prompting her new flick Battleship.
While Rihanna is claiming she’s just friends with McFadden she was sporting a silver and black jersey in a NYC strip club last week. I guess that’s just coincidence. Far be it for me to intimate McFadden is stiff arming his girl to make an open field run for Rihanna’s goalposts. Could just be that Rihanna is working her way north through Cali having had a brief fling L.A. Dodger Matt Kemp not too long ago.
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I didn’t know Rihanna was retarded.
May 9th, 2012 at 10:06 pm
462. Gruden to the Bucs was genius. Until it blew up in his face.
Gruden and Allen resurredcted Allen’s fathers old system, a revised “over hill gang” strategy with old timers running the show. Gannon, Rice Brown ect ect
The major draw back with this war plan is you mortgage your future for older veteran players with tread on the tire in exchange for future draft picks which means an all or nothing run of 3-4 yrs then a major fall off for years.
Davis negated this drawback by making an unprecedented and afterward illegal trade for Chucky that reaped a bounty of picks and cash with which to purchase them…
And then squandered the new stake…
Brilliant move but after having CHukcy in charge for a while the aging Davis got used to it and let the reigns slip and bad picks and decisions sunk the franchise into a historic losing streak.
From which we will emerge…
May 9th, 2012 at 10:14 pm
There’s a lot I want to say about Chucky but I’ll refrain…*uck You Chucky!
May 9th, 2012 at 10:24 pm
Hardline Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 8:17 pm
Truly, if one never saw Bo and Marcus tandem, you missed one of sports greatest shows.
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One of the big reasons I became a fan.
May 9th, 2012 at 10:30 pm
It wasn’t until I saw the video where his leg gets ripped outta his hip but then I knew Bo was totally jacked up. That was one serious injury.
May 9th, 2012 at 10:30 pm
Ri-Ri??? Really?
She ain’t even that hot!!!
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Agree with this. Take a look at her before fame or without makeup pix. Just like anyone else, Dmac is infactuated with the fame more than anything.
May 9th, 2012 at 10:39 pm
SR Raider Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 6:08 pm
Really starting to like some of the things I hear from and about Pryor. Working 6 days a week in the offseason is exactly what he needs to be doing.
“I feel like if I take a day off, somebody is outworking me and I’m losing an opportunity to get a percentage point better”
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/jim_trotter/05/09/terrelle.pryor/index.html#ixzz1uQNdG1Wb
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Good read. I LOVE Pryor’s attitude!
May 9th, 2012 at 10:43 pm
Fire,
Come on man, who could love Terrell Pryor at this point when he has only played a single down in the NFL??
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Actually, there was a delay of game penalty so the ball was never snapped. Pryor was then yanked. So, in reality, Pryor has not played one down in the league.
May 9th, 2012 at 11:04 pm
The NFL strikes back…
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7905891/nfl-says-study-shows-retired-players-longer-lives
Give all players a huge disclaimer listing the health drawbacks of playing professional football and I bet most – if not all – still jump at the opportunity to play in the NFL.
May 9th, 2012 at 11:26 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 11:04 pm
The NFL strikes back…
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7905891/nfl-says-study-shows-retired-players-longer-lives
Give all players a huge disclaimer listing the health drawbacks of playing professional football and I bet most – if not all – still jump at the opportunity to play in the NFL.
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It’s hard not to know, at any age of playing football – from pee wee and beyond – that football does certain things to the human body.
I hate to be so callous sounding but for a man who voluntarily strapped up for a paycheck to later claim that somehow no one told him of the dangers of playing football seems extremely lame.
However, another thing equally, if not even more egregious is the NFL’s treatment of those who have sacrificed their bodies for pay. The NFL knows that most of these dudes careers are 3 years or under and makes -zero- provision for these people.
May 9th, 2012 at 11:35 pm
466.RAIDER NATION STATION http://www.raidernationstation.com/ Says:
May 9th, 2012 at 10:06 pm
462. Gruden to the Bucs was genius. Until it blew up in his face.
Gruden and Allen resurredcted Allen’s fathers old system, a revised “over hill gang” strategy with old timers running the show. Gannon, Rice Brown ect ect
The major draw back with this war plan is you mortgage your future for older veteran players with tread on the tire in exchange for future draft picks which means an all or nothing run of 3-4 yrs then a major fall off for years.
Davis negated this drawback by making an unprecedented and afterward illegal trade for Chucky that reaped a bounty of picks and cash with which to purchase them…
And then squandered the new stake…
Brilliant move but after having CHukcy in charge for a while the aging Davis got used to it and let the reigns slip and bad picks and decisions sunk the franchise into a historic losing streak.
From which we will emerge…
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Station,
If your theory is true, then AD didn’t calculate the variable that he might face Gruden in the Superbowl the following year. Of course Gruden knew the system he installed there inside and out, which led to the Raiders defeat.
That seemed to stun AD, rendering him impotent. Then the decline came and he operated the club in the throes of dementia and an expondential body decline, from which the club is now emerging.
May 10th, 2012 at 12:17 am
Gruden was the perfect coach for us. He brought a level of intensity and discipline to the team that nearly won us a Super Bowl. Probably would have if Al hadn’t traded him.
May 10th, 2012 at 12:20 am
If Palmer doesn’t look for real by mid season, we should start whoever plays better between Pryor and Leinert in pre season. Both Leinert and Pryor should be given some tosses with the first string so they’re evaluated equally. Make sure they both get the same opportunity to be Palmer’s eventual replacement when he turns into, well, Carson Palmer.
May 10th, 2012 at 12:24 am
Giving both Leinert and Pryor the equal opportunity would be the perfect litmus test for both of them. They’ve both had issues with professionalism. It’s a competitive league and you can’t keep everyone. One of these men will be Palmer’s backup, the other will be relegated to the 3rd string, possibly released. Man if I’m either Pryor or Leinert I’ve in bed early every night, up early every morning, training my ass off with the Rocky theme song in my head. I’m taking no chances.
May 10th, 2012 at 5:33 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
It’s Thirsty Thursday!!!!
May 10th, 2012 at 5:33 am
I wonder if the NCAA and/or OSU will make any statement to refute TP’s recent quotes.
I for one, don’t believe him. Why wait until you write “your book” (nice bit of grandiosity there) to show the reciept. Why not show it to the NCAA, tweet it out, SHOW IT NOW?
He could have got student loans at any time his freshman year. With a single mom not working, he would have qualifited for the Federal Pelle grant, and the NCAA allows for a seperate “extreme hardship” grant from the University for 2K extra.
When I went to Chico State, I had split parents so I qualified using my mom’s income (maybe 40K a year) and got over $7,000 a year, free, from the Pelle Grant. I am sure he got more, and he was on full scholarship, where he didn’t have to pay for room and board, school or food.
How much is a gas bill for a few months? $300? Maybe $500?
I call baloney.
May 10th, 2012 at 5:36 am
It’s posts like that, JFB, that make me call baloney on your claim of hoping Pryor succeeds.
May 10th, 2012 at 5:46 am
Hey I like boloney…wait, wrong kind…bologna! LOL
Anyways, don’t really care about that, as long as he can produce!
May 10th, 2012 at 5:51 am
I guess all the rookies report on Monday…I see a lot of tweets from them that they are headed to the Bay!
May 10th, 2012 at 5:52 am
Actually, there was a delay of game penalty so the ball was never snapped. Pryor was then yanked. So, in reality, Pryor has not played one down in the league.
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Not true. The ball was snapped, Pryor dove forward for the first down. The penalty called was a false start on Pryor for not being set for 1 full second after motioning under center.
May 10th, 2012 at 5:52 am
483.hwnrdr Says:
May 10th, 2012 at 5:51 am
I guess all the rookies report on Monday…I see a lot of tweets from them that they are headed to the Bay!
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Rookie mini-camp opens tomorrow.
May 10th, 2012 at 5:53 am
I’m not a softie J, I don’t just immediately believe the sob story.
TP has gotten in trouble with bending the truth before, so I am not overly trusting.
Besides, though, that has nothing to do with his potential success or not in the NFL. I want to see him play, I am more eager to see him play in the preseason than anybody in awhile for us.
I just don’t believe this story as 100% factual.
May 10th, 2012 at 5:57 am
484.bcz24 Says:
May 10th, 2012 at 5:52 am
Actually, there was a delay of game penalty so the ball was never snapped. Pryor was then yanked. So, in reality, Pryor has not played one down in the league.
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Not true. The ball was snapped, Pryor dove forward for the first down. The penalty called was a false start on Pryor for not being set for 1 full second after motioning under center.
Do you think that was the right call? Everytime I see that, I believe he was pasused for a sec…
However, I don’t think that was the right time to use that play, but who am I?
May 10th, 2012 at 5:57 am
485.bcz24 Says:
May 10th, 2012 at 5:52 am
483.hwnrdr Says:
May 10th, 2012 at 5:51 am
I guess all the rookies report on Monday…I see a lot of tweets from them that they are headed to the Bay!
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Rookie mini-camp opens tomorrow.
Thanks, Bcz…~
May 10th, 2012 at 5:59 am
Do you think that was the right call? Everytime I see that, I believe he was pasused for a sec…
However, I don’t think that was the right time to use that play, but who am I?
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I don’t think it was the right call. Pryor had a cadence. He motioned under center, got set, called his cadence and took the snap. It was a bs call.
May 10th, 2012 at 5:59 am
Besides, you can’t bust my ballz today, it’s my B-day and I am sitting in a Hamptonn Inn in Clovis, NM (just as big of a dump as Clovis, CA).
May 10th, 2012 at 6:01 am
Wassup Hwn and Bcz!
May 10th, 2012 at 6:02 am
TP was a rookie on the field for the very first time.
Officials in ANY SPORT are going to make the rookie first timer hold his set longer than what normal passes. Rookie pitchers aren’t going to get the call on the black, NBA Centers are going to get called for touch fouls for awhile.
I think Palmer would have gotten away with what Pryor did, being a savy vet. A green rookie? Can’t cut the corner.
May 10th, 2012 at 6:02 am
Happy B Day!
May 10th, 2012 at 6:04 am
What’s up J Hill? Lakers better close tonight…oh well…
Happy Birthday, JFB!!!
May 10th, 2012 at 6:06 am
I just think it’s interesting how big of a subject Pryor has been in here.
I wonder if Matt Flynn got this kind of run of the cheese head blog?
May 10th, 2012 at 6:09 am
I REALLY want TP to be the #2. I do not want to see Matt Leinart as the primary backup all year.
Palmer is a little older, and given the state of the NFL these days, pretty good chance we are going to need our backup to start a game or 3 this season. Hopefully not, but probably fairly likely.
Leinart stinks, but he has played before. I would be OK with him being the #2 to come in THE MIDDLE of a game for a hurt CP, and be able to run the game plan and what not.
But with a week to install the game plan, and run with the 1’s all week in practice, give me Pryor RIGHT NOW over Leinart, without having ever seen him throw an NFL pass.
May 10th, 2012 at 6:09 am
Bynum needs more than 8 shots, Hwn.
McGhee will be in foul trouble trying to play Bynum.
Kobe did that on purpose so he could get Artest back for game 1 against Durant.
May 10th, 2012 at 6:11 am
32 years young!!!!
Already got the cholestrol and heartburn scripts, I guess viagara and blood pressure one’s are around the corner, lol.
May 10th, 2012 at 6:11 am
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That’s not really a Pryor endorsement.
May 10th, 2012 at 6:12 am
Yeah but didn’t Kobe close with what? 4 3’s? I didn’t watch the game, just going off what I heard! And yes, Artest back for game 1 is huge!!!
May 10th, 2012 at 6:13 am
You’re only 32????????
I thought you were older than me when I saw you a few years back, and I’m 42, lol.
May 10th, 2012 at 6:14 am
Ahh….yuck….yuck….yuck
It’s the Silver and Black hair isn’t it?
May 10th, 2012 at 6:14 am
498.Just Fire Baby Says:
May 10th, 2012 at 6:11 am
32 years young!!!!
Already got the cholestrol and heartburn scripts, I guess viagara and blood pressure one’s are around the corner, lol.
32, that was my transition year from Hawaii to The Bay!
Enjoy when you can…everything (kinda) slowed down for me in my 30’s…when you hit your 40’s, there are many things that you will not be able to do anymore. Well, you can, just not as much as when you were in your 20’s. But I’m sure you know that!!!
May 10th, 2012 at 6:15 am
501.J Hill Says:
May 10th, 2012 at 6:13 am
You’re only 32????????
I thought you were older than me when I saw you a few years back, and I’m 42, lol.
Did you turn 42 this year or are you becoming 43?
May 10th, 2012 at 6:16 am
Wasn’t just Kobe.
That bum Sessions just would feed the post. None of them did.
Kobe, being the leader of that team, could have easily directed his players to feed Bynum. Same with Brown. It was so obviously avoided by everyone, that it makes me say it was intentional to get Artest back.
May 10th, 2012 at 6:17 am
Damn, forgot I recently had a Bday, lol.
43 this year, Hwn.
May 10th, 2012 at 6:18 am
506.J Hill Says:
May 10th, 2012 at 6:17 am
Damn, forgot I recently had a Bday, lol.
43 this year, Hwn.
Hey me too! “We haven’t had that spirit here since, 1969!”
May 10th, 2012 at 6:19 am
Ex-punter Jim Arnold sues NFL, says he had “several concussions”??????
WTF….this getting ridiculous!!! Out of control…ridiculous!
Good Morning Raider Nation!
May 10th, 2012 at 6:22 am
Armond is starring in those Golden Corrall commercials now so he doesn’t have time to hollar at the homies anymore.
I see how it is!
May 10th, 2012 at 6:22 am
GUESS I’M THE ONLY 1 HERE GETTING YOUNGER & BETTER LOOKING EVERY DAY !!!
May 10th, 2012 at 6:26 am
Happy B-Day New Mexico!! I’m going to go celebrate for you later on today…going to the San Gennaro Festival!!!
May 10th, 2012 at 6:28 am
Already got the cholestrol and heartburn scripts, I guess viagara and blood pressure one’s are around the corner, lol.
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Happy Birthday brother, I just turned 31 a few months ago, and Im a big ogre but I got good cholesteral and my blood pressure is quote “great, even for a normal sized person” LOL… I hear ya on the heartburn. I take 1 omeprazol every morning to control it, and have a bottle of Zantac 250 every where i go for flare ups!
May 10th, 2012 at 6:29 am
Well, you can, just not as much as when you were in your 20’s. But I’m sure you know that!!!
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It has been pretty humbling, not able to play sports as much.
Hell, I am having a hard time walking 18 these days, with this plantar facisitis thing. Tried to play hardball in Vegas a few years ago, pulled my groin immediately, lol.
Siiiigghhhh…….I guess that’s why we do full-contact blogging.
May 10th, 2012 at 6:29 am
Oh, and Viagra SUCKS! I tried that shiz once for sh1ts and giggles, I couldn’t finish… besides no matter how hard a chick breaks your chops about finishing to quickly, she doesnt wanna get plowed for 2 hours either!
May 10th, 2012 at 6:30 am
Omeprazol is my life saver.
It literally has improved my life, especially the day after a Raider game (eat like crap, drink too much on gamedays).
May 10th, 2012 at 6:32 am
San Gennaro.MMMMMMMMM.
Get a bag of Zeppole’s for me!!!!
May 10th, 2012 at 6:32 am
515.Just Fire Baby Says:
May 10th, 2012 at 6:30 am
Omeprazol is my life saver.
It literally has improved my life, especially the day after a Raider game (eat like crap, drink too much on gamedays).
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100% agreed!
May 10th, 2012 at 6:41 am
So J, what would an “endorsement” of TP sound like?
I mean, he hasn’t thrown a NFL pass yet, anything anyways says is just opinion and speculation.
I just want him to easily win the #2 gig by some time this season, look good in the preseason, and maybe push Carson in 2013.
I think it is feasible, and would be ideal for the organization.
But spare me the “Mom’s is heating the house with the oven” routine. Nobody gives a $hat Terrelle.
May 10th, 2012 at 6:55 am
509.J Hill Says:
May 10th, 2012 at 6:22 am
Armond is starring in those Golden Corrall commercials now so he doesn’t have time to hollar at the homies anymore.
I see how it is!
LOL, I’m not sharing my appetizers!
May 10th, 2012 at 6:56 am
Good Morning Dirt Lot!!!
May 10th, 2012 at 6:56 am
513.Just Fire Baby Says:
May 10th, 2012 at 6:29 am
Well, you can, just not as much as when you were in your 20’s. But I’m sure you know that!!!
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It has been pretty humbling, not able to play sports as much.
Hell, I am having a hard time walking 18 these days, with this plantar facisitis thing. Tried to play hardball in Vegas a few years ago, pulled my groin immediately, lol.
Siiiigghhhh…….I guess that’s why we do full-contact blogging.
I feel ya!
May 10th, 2012 at 7:04 am
I highly doubt, barring injury of course, that Pryor sees the field in the next two years. Perhaps, once Palmer’s contract expires, his prospects may brighten. However, I would not be surprised if Reggie opts to place his wagers on a new pony before Pryor is ever given the chance to prove himself.
May 10th, 2012 at 7:06 am
Hwnrdr, aging is a c*cksucker.
May 10th, 2012 at 7:06 am
Raider Ray you have a point worth considering.
May 10th, 2012 at 7:06 am
Wut up Raider beyotches!
May 10th, 2012 at 7:06 am
It’s more about the digs you take at him, JFB.
You are not usually critical of players you support.
May 10th, 2012 at 7:18 am
I guess Steve and Jerry don’t have anything to report about Raiders rookie mini-camp this weekend?
May 10th, 2012 at 7:21 am
Steve and Jerry are too busy shining each other’s poles to perform their civic duties.
May 10th, 2012 at 7:24 am
JFB, happy birthday brother !!
i will fire up a fatty in your honor tonight sir !!
May 10th, 2012 at 7:26 am
r8eray Says:
May 10th, 2012 at 7:18 am
I guess Steve and Jerry don’t have anything to report about Raiders rookie mini-camp this weekend?
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??? maybe the Raiders “fired” his inside source???
May 10th, 2012 at 7:29 am
R8ER MIKE Says:
May 10th, 2012 at 7:26 am
r8eray Says:
May 10th, 2012 at 7:18 am
I guess Steve and Jerry don’t have anything to report about Raiders rookie mini-camp this weekend?
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??? maybe the Raiders “fired” his inside source???
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Lol…I wouldn’t doubt that!
Wait a minute…I thought John Herrera was fired a couple of months ago??
May 10th, 2012 at 7:30 am
Rookie camp begins today.
I hope we get some reports.
May 10th, 2012 at 7:30 am
It’s more about the digs you take at him, JFB.
You are not usually critical of players you support.
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I guess you know me to well, lol
May 10th, 2012 at 7:31 am
Roddey White says on Twitter, “It’s crazy how football players are killing our game you signed up to play a violent game and made a lot of money now u talk bad about #how.”
Look, no one had to tell any of these ex-NFL’ers that strapping on a helmet could possibly lead to injuries. Now they want to whine about the game? Nuts.
May 10th, 2012 at 7:34 am
The game as we knew it, as we all loved it will probably be gone in a few years! Player safety is their number one concern, as it should, but…the shot heard around teh NFL world is the shot that Seau used to kill himself!
May 10th, 2012 at 7:40 am
Joey Clinkscales!!!
May 10th, 2012 at 7:43 am
glad to the the Pacers & Heat take care of business in 5 games …
Nuggets & Bulls gonna even the series tonight!!
not sure about ATL
May 10th, 2012 at 7:45 am
Reggie isn’t the only one!
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/10/rams-shake-up-their-scouting-and-personnel-departments/
May 10th, 2012 at 7:47 am
You are not usually critical of players you support.
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I wouldn’t use the word “Support” but of course, we all have our favorites.
And there is nothing wrong with that. I like Rolando, some here hate him. I hated Jamarcus, some here supported him until the bitter end.
Either way, we were all cheering for them on Sunday.
May 10th, 2012 at 7:52 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
May 10th, 2012 at 7:45 am
Reggie isn’t the only one!
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/10/rams-shake-up-their-scouting-and-personnel-departments/
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Yup. Reggie’s doing exactly what most GMs do when they come in; clean house and install the people they know and trust.
May 10th, 2012 at 7:52 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
May 10th, 2012 at 7:47 am
You are not usually critical of players you support.
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I wouldn’t use the word “Support” but of course, we all have our favorites.
And there is nothing wrong with that. I like Rolando, some here hate him. I hated Jamarcus, some here supported him until the bitter end.
Either way, we were all cheering for them on Sunday.
********************well said !! agree 100%
May 10th, 2012 at 7:54 am
The game has completely changed already.
May 10th, 2012 at 8:14 am
I hated Jamarcus, some here supported him until the bitter end.
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Only 1 dumbass… and he STILL supports him.
May 10th, 2012 at 8:21 am
I wouldn’t use the word “Support” but of course, we all have our favorites.
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@JFB
re-sign JLH!
trade Slowlando & Lou Murphy to Buffalo for Kirk Morrison & Derek Hagan!!
May 10th, 2012 at 8:24 am
I heard on Sirius NFL radio testerday that we are going to have to cut more players because we are over the salary cap again.
any truth to this or are they wrong ?
it not like they are ever wrong !! lol lol lol
May 10th, 2012 at 8:26 am
*yesterday
May 10th, 2012 at 8:27 am
I heard on Sirius NFL radio yesterday that we are going to have to cut more players because we are over the salary cap again.
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@Mike
well Branch didn’t count against the cap until he signed the franchise tag, right?
if we were right up against the cap before, I’m sure we are quite a bit over now. Hopefully a long-term deal is in the works.
If it isn’t, i’m sure a few other cats would be willing to restructure.
May 10th, 2012 at 8:28 am
Good morning Nation!~
May 10th, 2012 at 8:36 am
hwnrdr Says:
May 10th, 2012 at 7:34 am
The game as we knew it, as we all loved it will probably be gone in a few years! Player safety is their number one concern, as it should, but…the shot heard around teh NFL world is the shot that Seau used to kill himself!
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Of course player safety should be top concern. But it takes a high profile case like Seau to break thru the dated NFL propoganda and dogma to do anything about it. The league is going to make changes now that they can’t avoid the subject any longer.
The whole Saints bountygate feels like a dog & pony show to wrap the entire thing up into one tidy little issue. Culprits penalized and new rules. Problem solved.
It’s all hypocritical at this point for the league to finally take action. If money wasn’t at stake, they’d continue the status quo.
May 10th, 2012 at 8:38 am
That is true, Guest! Maybe a little too late!
What about all that Chris Carter ramblings about how he ahd bounties…and the funny Romonowski answer back…LOL
May 10th, 2012 at 8:38 am
You People are talking about BBall and age?! You People….
Happy Birthday Vegas.
J, you are old bro. Now I understand why you think golf is a sport.
Long Live ODB!!
May 10th, 2012 at 8:38 am
Regarding the scouting change.
For 30+ years our scouts have been on the same page as Al, finding players that they think would fit his system. He liked “speed” guys, DB’s, big fast WR’s, etc.. Hard to change one from old habits.
Now not saying Reggie doesn’t like speed guys, just he has a different outlook and vision on players fitting his system. He’s noted he wants football players, not so much the track stars. So he’s hired guys that will be on the same page as himself, in HIS vision of forming a team.
May 10th, 2012 at 8:39 am
Don’t let the door hit you on the way brother.
Come back. We can talk politics too
talking weed and hockey. Hope RRS isn’t around!!!
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I show up and everybody leaves… LOL
I guess that is the general consensus on the blog, anyways
those comments from Raider O, Mike & DMAC above were from yesterday.
Nobody wants to sign Cedric Benson due to character issues, but would LOVE chatting with the guy on this blog.. haha
May 10th, 2012 at 8:43 am
who cares about desean Jackson??? -We got HAyward Bay!!!
May 10th, 2012 at 8:43 am
Nobody wants to sign Cedric Benson due to character issues, but would LOVE chatting with the guy on this blog.. haha
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Truth. I only have one question for Benson on a chat. Why’d you b..c.h slap your live in boy friend Cedric?
May 10th, 2012 at 8:43 am
I like Benson, and I do think we should add a big power back to complement the RBs on our roster.
May 10th, 2012 at 8:45 am
We have real scouts now.. picking from combine numbers is not scouting
May 10th, 2012 at 8:45 am
whats up there O ??
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Nobody wants to sign Cedric Benson due to character issues, but would LOVE chatting with the guy on this blog.. haha
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would love to chat with this guy on the blog or just go out and burn a few trees with him !!!
May 10th, 2012 at 8:45 am
who cares about desean Jackson??? -We got HAyward Bay!!!
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Seriously?
Coulda had: Maclin, Harvin, Nicks, Britt, or Wallace, even Craptree.
May 10th, 2012 at 8:46 am
Why’d you b..c.h slap your live in boy friend Cedric?
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LOL @ G123!
thats cruel, man.
May 10th, 2012 at 8:51 am
ODB,
Did you read a newspaper? lol
I don’t get it. People talk about drinking 40’s of Malt liquor, but they get bothered when you talk about trees?!
May 10th, 2012 at 8:51 am
I disagree with the perception that we have “real scouts” now. As oppossed to what? Go and look at the later rounds, that’s where scouts make their hay. Go and criticize the later round values we the Raiders have drafted in recent years. The early round busts are not indicative of poor scouting, that’s about Al Davis. I’m sure if you asked the scouts, they’d have advised Al to steer clear of J. Russell, MM34, DHB, others. But it’s not their fault that their opinions don’t count on draft day #1.
May 10th, 2012 at 8:54 am
??? dont know O, doesnt make and sence to me either !!
May 10th, 2012 at 8:56 am
MM34……….anyone read Bob Marley’s aricle/thing on grading our draft picks?
Mitchell’s sophmore year was one of the worst in the NFL for any safety, according to their calculations.
Gawd he is awful.
May 10th, 2012 at 8:57 am
Per PFT: Pryor considered quitting football during ‘11 season.
“It was extremely hard considering the circumstances,” Pryor recently told SI.com. “I couldn’t be outside with the team, I couldn’t meet with the team, I couldn’t even get paid by the team during the suspension. It was hard. . . . When I was finally cleared, I didn’t want to bother the coaches because they were trying to get ready for games. It was kind of hard asking them for help, because I saw how stressed out they were during the season, which I totally understand. But it just killed me that I didn’t know the stuff that I was supposed to know. That was the worst part. I also couldn’t compete. That’s what really killed me.
“There was a point — and I know it seems crazy — but there was a point I was asking myself if I really loved this game anymore. That’s where I was at [emotionally]. Throughout the whole season I wasn’t playing, I wasn’t getting no love toward me. I just felt some type of way. I started questioning myself, even though I shouldn’t have. I was like, ‘Do I even love this game? Do I want to play this game? Is this what I want to do?’”
May 10th, 2012 at 9:00 am
@Mike
well Branch didn’t count against the cap until he signed the franchise tag, right?
if we were right up against the cap before, I’m sure we are quite a bit over now. Hopefully a long-term deal is in the works.
If it isn’t, i’m sure a few other cats would be willing to restructure.
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Not true. I listened to Tim and Pat last night too when they said that. Tried calling but I couldn’t get through. Tyvon has counted against the cap since we tendered him, for reporting purposes. Him signing didn’t put us 6 mill over, that was already figured in.
We are fine cap wise, Branch is not going to play on the tag, and if we need more space we can do a new deal with a number of guys to reduce their cap hits (Lechler, Kelly, DMAC etc)
May 10th, 2012 at 9:00 am
Gawd (MM34) he is awful.
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agreed. horrible AD pick and a caution of scouting using youtube videos.
May 10th, 2012 at 9:01 am
564.Just Fire Baby Says:
May 10th, 2012 at 8:56 am
MM34……….anyone read Bob Marley’s aricle/thing on grading our draft picks?
Mitchell’s sophmore year was one of the worst in the NFL for any safety, according to their calculations.
Gawd he is awful.
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Hey, Rock thinks he is a suitable replacement for Branch. You better watch what you say! LOL
May 10th, 2012 at 9:01 am
They were ancient AL D puppets in a time of robots.
The last 25 drafts have told me that its time for change.
May 10th, 2012 at 9:02 am
I couldn’t even get paid by the team during the suspension.
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SMH
May 10th, 2012 at 9:03 am
Seriously?
Coulda had: Maclin, Harvin, Nicks, Britt, or Wallace, even Craptree.
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@G123
I don’t think it’s really even a fair comparison.
#1 Al Davis reach for Heyward-Bey, there’s no question. He probably would have went at the end of RD1 or top of RD2. not DHB’s fault Al Davis overdrafted (hence overpaid) him! Everybody knew that he would be a project. Almost along the lines of Pryor. very raw. needed to be coached up & developed. drafted for NFL potential rather than college production. Then you look at the QB’s he’s had and all the coaching turnover. HC went from Cable to Jackson to Allen. OC’s Hackett/Tollner to Jackson to Saunders to Knapp. his position coach [Sanjay Lal] was a guy just promoted from quality control, with on the job training. Now replaced by Gilmore. QB’s have been Russell, Gradkowski, Campbell, Boller and then Palmer off the couch with no offseason or grasp of the offense.
yes, Heyward-Bey could use some improvement. He’ll be the first one to admit that. He’s a hard worker and he’s getting better. YR4 I expect him to shine. Most college kids start to “get it” in YR3. That was DHB last season. Now we expect him to take the next step. With a legit GM, HC, OC & QB I suspect he will.
King Darrius!!
May 10th, 2012 at 9:03 am
Thakns Bcz.
i knew you be the man in the know !!
just didnt want to see us cutting any more players before camp even starts.
May 10th, 2012 at 9:03 am
That was just another instance of the media making fire out of nothing… those guys are usually pretty good about not doing that too, but they don’t often say anything positive about the Raiders.
May 10th, 2012 at 9:05 am
Why are you SYH Birthday Boy? He comes from a poor family, and he needs money to support himself and his family.
May 10th, 2012 at 9:07 am
i thought there was a rumor Al “reached” for MM34 because he thought Chicago was going to draft him ??
May 10th, 2012 at 9:07 am
Because I am sure Rosenhaus would have floated him 50K if need be.
You couldn’t “even” get paid, because you were suspended. Every suspended player doesn’t get paid.
I would prefer TP continue to work his azz off like he does, and stay away from the press. Not media savy at all, and lots of me, me, me, I, I , I.
May 10th, 2012 at 9:08 am
At least Al did trade down a few spots before he took MM34.
Not sure who we got with the additional 6th rounder or whatever we got to slide back a few spots.
May 10th, 2012 at 9:10 am
Morning/afternoon peoples!
It’s DMAC’s 31st B-Day!
Get the lighters out and the tequila bottles.
I’m grateful and truly blessed to be alive.
May 10th, 2012 at 9:10 am
Rock thinks he is a suitable replacement for Branch. You better watch what you say!
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@bcz
I said that he should be given the opportunity to compete for the job. Also said that given the same opportunity he’d probably have the same stats. A bunch of tackles, excels in run support. Not the greatest cover guy.
why is that funny?
I see the similaries in their games. There were a few games where you guys praised MM34 and a few where you threw your arms up and said “WTF!?!” … just like TB
I never said that we should cut bait with Branch, because Mitch will be an excellent SS in the league. If you recall, I want Branch resigned to a reasonable long-term deal. If that happens, I fully expect Branch to retain his starting job. Still think he has a lot to prove. Not going to debate this all day with you, but your comment required correction. If you’re going to speak for me, please do it accurately. thank you
May 10th, 2012 at 9:10 am
“It was extremely hard considering the circumstances,” Pryor recently told SI.com. “I couldn’t be outside with the team, I couldn’t meet with the team, I couldn’t even get paid by the team during the suspension. It was hard. . . . When I was finally cleared, I didn’t want to bother the coaches because they were trying to get ready for games. It was kind of hard asking them for help, because I saw how stressed out they were during the season, which I totally understand. But it just killed me that I didn’t know the stuff that I was supposed to know. That was the worst part. I also couldn’t compete. That’s what really killed me.
“There was a point — and I know it seems crazy — but there was a point I was asking myself if I really loved this game anymore. That’s where I was at [emotionally]. Throughout the whole season I wasn’t playing, I wasn’t getting no love toward me. I just felt some type of way. I started questioning myself, even though I shouldn’t have. I was like, ‘Do I even love this game? Do I want to play this game? Is this what I want to do?’”
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23 “I’s”, in that quote. About 2-3 per sentence.
Continue to work young man, and don’t talk to the press.
May 10th, 2012 at 9:11 am
@Just Fire Baby
Happy birthday!
May 10th, 2012 at 9:12 am
Why should he borrow money from his agent? He is a 3rd round pick who was suspended for what he did in college.
May 10th, 2012 at 9:12 am
D-Mac, your B-day too?
I was born on Mothers day in 1980.
May 10th, 2012 at 9:12 am
Why should he borrow money from his agent?
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Because he was complaining about not getting paid?
May 10th, 2012 at 9:13 am
Not surprised Pryor haters didn’t post the second half of that PFT article:
Pryor sees an opening, and he’s working hard to make an impression. “He certainly has been here and putting in some hours to make sure that he’s getting better,” Allen said. “The thing that I’ve been impressed with is, Terrelle is very, very eager to learn. That’s what you look for in a young guy like that. He’s hungry for it, and he’s working. It’s obvious he’s got great physical talents. I was out there and they were throwing, and just looking at him he’s really impressive. But like any young player he’s got to develop a full understanding of the game, because it’s more complex than it is in college. The thing that I talk to him about is, don’t worry about anything other than you just working to get better every single day, in the meeting rooms, on the field, everything you do. At the end of the day the results will take care of themselves.”
Though some think Pryor’s hard work eventually will result in the player being moved to a new position (like tight end), he’s still not listening.
“That talk doesn’t bother me, because every day I’m getting taught at the same rate as Carson Palmer at the quarterback position,” Pryor said. “People say that because I do have blazing speed. I do have to work a little bit on my accuracy, but who doesn’t have to work on something? If you didn’t have to work on something, you’d be the best there is or you’d be starting. But what if I didn’t have to work on that? I’d be the perfect quarterback. Well, I don’t know of anyone to be perfect but the Lord. And until I see someone perfect, I’m going to keep on working.”
Posted by Mike Florio
May 10th, 2012 at 9:13 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
May 10th, 2012 at 9:12 am
D-Mac, your B-day too?
I was born on Mothers day in 1980.
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Yes sir, me 2
Happy B-Day dude
May 10th, 2012 at 9:14 am
Happy Birthday DMAC!!
DMAC and Vegas have the same Birthday?
May 10th, 2012 at 9:15 am
I never said that we should cut bait with Branch, because Mitch will be an excellent SS in the league. If you recall, I want Branch resigned to a reasonable long-term deal. If that happens, I fully expect Branch to retain his starting job. Still think he has a lot to prove. Not going to debate this all day with you, but your comment required correction. If you’re going to speak for me, please do it accurately. thank you
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Dude you CLEARLY have no ability to recognize sarcasm… that why I put the damn LOL there. Relax. I wasn’t ’speaking for you’ at all.
May 10th, 2012 at 9:15 am
Thats crazy huh, O Dog
Thanx for the shout out
May 10th, 2012 at 9:16 am
I don’t know of anyone to be perfect but the Lord
-Pryor
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glad to see Reggie, Dennis & Napolean converted him already!!
May 10th, 2012 at 9:16 am
I hope your B-Day is going to be more exciting than mine.
Working all day, than have a 4 hour drive home.
I think the highlight will be a pack of sour gummi worms and a snapple, while listening to the NBA games on the drive home, lol.
May 10th, 2012 at 9:17 am
bcz24 Says:
May 10th, 2012 at 9:03 am
That was just another instance of the media making fire out of nothing… those guys are usually pretty good about not doing that too, but they don’t often say anything positive about the Raiders.
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seems like the only one that talks good about the Raiders is Gil Bryant. guess thats because of his friendship with Al.
May 10th, 2012 at 9:18 am
582.Raider O Says:
May 10th, 2012 at 9:12 am
Why should he borrow money from his agent? He is a 3rd round pick who was suspended for what he did in college.
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He was NOT suspended for what he did in college. He was suspended for deliberatly manipulating the system to avoid a college penalty. Had he entered last years regular draft like every other player, the NFL would have never suspended him.
May 10th, 2012 at 9:18 am
Is anyone even looking forward to watching Leinart play?
Obviously TP is going to be a lightning rod for us Semi’s this preseason.
Hell, I think I am more interested in watching Rhett Bomar sling it, than Matt frkn Leinart.
May 10th, 2012 at 9:18 am
DMAC… HAPPY F’in BIRTHDAY brother !!
May 10th, 2012 at 9:20 am
Vegas,
No B-day Blunt? You are getting old.
May 10th, 2012 at 9:20 am
Happy B-Day to you too, DMAC!
May 10th, 2012 at 9:21 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
May 10th, 2012 at 9:16 am
I hope your B-Day is going to be more exciting than mine.
Working all day, than have a 4 hour drive home.
I think the highlight will be a pack of sour gummi worms and a snapple, while listening to the NBA games on the drive home, lol.
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Not really. At least not 2day. I do look forward to my softball game 2night. The whole team is on fire!
May 10th, 2012 at 9:21 am
Bcz,
I blame his preppie HC. He convinced him to come back. Btw, I still don’t agree with his suspension.
May 10th, 2012 at 9:22 am
No B-day anything.
My buddy is coming in next week, so I will have my blunt than.
Stopped fkn with the Spyce stuff. Rocket fuel and battery acid probably aren’t to be smoked.
May 10th, 2012 at 9:22 am
Thanx for the shout outs mi familia
May 10th, 2012 at 9:23 am
Is anyone even looking forward to watching Leinart play?
Obviously TP is going to be a lightning rod for us Semi’s this preseason.
Hell, I think I am more interested in watching Rhett Bomar sling it, than Matt frkn Leinart.
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Exactly, JFB.
you already know what you’re getting in Leinart. a system fit that you can’t count on to win games if called upon. Basically the 2012 version of Kyle Boller.
Jackson to Boller is like Knapp to Leinart.
After this comment I suspect we’ll get a bunch of those “he played great for Houston!” responses, when he only attempted 13 friggin passes in the past 2 years under our new OC
May 10th, 2012 at 9:24 am
We’re getting closer to that Thunder-Heat battle.
May 10th, 2012 at 9:25 am
578.DMAC Says:
May 10th, 2012 at 9:10 am
Morning/afternoon peoples!
It’s DMAC’s 31st B-Day!
Get the lighters out and the tequila bottles.
I’m grateful and truly blessed to be alive.
Happy birthday, DMAC!!! Have a good one, but don’t forget to pass…lol…hey even to your dog!
May 10th, 2012 at 9:25 am
Fa’sho
Lighters out!
May 10th, 2012 at 9:26 am
Vegas,
You can’t find a plug in NM?
May 10th, 2012 at 9:26 am
We’re getting closer to that Thunder-Heat battle
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Agreed
btw, Happy Birthday Hippie!!
May 10th, 2012 at 9:27 am
Thanx bro
May 10th, 2012 at 9:29 am
DMAC,JFB. it lunch time here. think i will go out and celerbrate your birthday the only way i know how !!!
May 10th, 2012 at 9:30 am
Wish I could of rode by bike to work 2day, but that fk’n hard ass seat be killing my gluteus maximus.
May 10th, 2012 at 9:30 am
You can’t find a plug in NM?
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I have one, but can’t really flaunt being high around the wifey and explain it by saying Cashmere hooked me up at the club.
May 10th, 2012 at 9:30 am
think i will go out and celerbrate your birthday the only way i know how !!!
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Cough up a lung for me!!!!
May 10th, 2012 at 9:32 am
Vegas,
Get high with the wifey, they don’t ague as much after smoking, and they cook more and better.
May 10th, 2012 at 9:32 am
@JFB
Happy Birthday, blog GM!
still waiting for the paycheck on that pre-draft & post-draft work I did…
please don’t “Mike Lombardi” me
I told you that I’d work in exchange for a hunting lease on your property or an autographed Higgins poster
May 10th, 2012 at 9:33 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
May 10th, 2012 at 9:03 am
yes, Heyward-Bey could use some improvement. He’ll be the first one to admit that. He’s a hard worker and he’s getting better. YR4 I expect him to shine. Most college kids start to “get it” in YR3. That was DHB last season. Now we expect him to take the next step. With a legit GM, HC, OC & QB I suspect he will.
King Darrius!!
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I fully expect DHB will have what might be considered a “breakout” year.
May 10th, 2012 at 9:34 am
still waiting for the paycheck on that pre-draft & post-draft work I did…
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It’s all pro bono around these parts, partner.
Didn’t I explain this in the interview?
May 10th, 2012 at 9:35 am
Liono is a personal tutor for tp. One less guy for knapp to worry about.
May 10th, 2012 at 9:37 am
The year 3 thing for WR’s is very, very true.
However on the flip side, usually the production in year 3 is about what they cap at.
So this is DHB’s almost peak, which 70 catches for 1,000 yards and 6-7 TD’s is perfectly acceptable.
May 10th, 2012 at 9:38 am
80 catches for dhb this yr
May 10th, 2012 at 9:39 am
RR,
You did a great job this draft. Great work ethic!
May 10th, 2012 at 9:39 am
Its kind of fked up that all of TP’s friends at Ohio stopped answering his calls, because they all felt he had snitched on them.
(Heard it from Jim Trotter this morning on the radio)
May 10th, 2012 at 9:41 am
I fully expect DHB will have what might be considered a “breakout” year
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@Dave
I bet DHB, Moore & Ford have all upped thier games over the offseason. Palmer gets a full offseason. Legit coaching staff. Might have a late-round steal in Criner.
If our WR corps remain mostly healthy, I like Heyward-Bey will be lethal. If DMo17 is a baller and uncontested #1 WR he will be doubled and DHB will have his way singled up on 2nd or 3rd CB’s.
He had 64 catches for 975 yards & 4 TD’s last season. 15+ ypc
My projection is 80 catches for 1200 yards & 8 TD’s in 2012
May 10th, 2012 at 9:41 am
I predict 60-70 catches.
Moore: 70+
May 10th, 2012 at 9:43 am
People always referenced Cliff Branch, as a guy who took 3 years to emerge to compare to DHB.
This is absolutely correct. But year 3, was Branch’s best year production wise.
May 10th, 2012 at 9:44 am
It’s all pro bono around these parts, partner.
Didn’t I explain this in the interview?
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Oof!
not even a cup of coffee, eh?
cold mcdonalds cheeseburger & kfc coleslaw, perhaps?
BREAK A LEG!!! on the golf course, sucka
May 10th, 2012 at 9:45 am
My projection is 80 catches for 1200 yards & 8 TD’s in 2012
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That would be awesome, earn him a trip to Hawaii, and earn Al a much deserved “F off” to the draft pundits.
May 10th, 2012 at 9:45 am
618.Just Fire Baby Says:
May 10th, 2012 at 9:37 am
The year 3 thing for WR’s is very, very true.
However on the flip side, usually the production in year 3 is about what they cap at.
So this is DHB’s almost peak, which 70 catches for 1,000 yards and 6-7 TD’s is perfectly acceptable.
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I don’t want to feel this way, but I do; everytime a ball is thrown to DHB i get a panicked feeling in the pit of my stomach…”Is he gonna catch it? Please catch it”.
Like I said, i don’t say this cuz i don’t like him it’s just i still don’t trust him.
I liked the catch he made against KC to basically win the game in OT, and there’s no doubt he makes a good effort most of the time, i would just prefer good hands that you can count on over ANYTHING else…imo.
That’s why i’m excited about Criner.
May 10th, 2012 at 9:46 am
not even a cup of coffee, eh?
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It’s like being on a board of directors.
You get the prestige and clout, and can utilize it to land a cushy 6 figure consulting gig somewhere later.
But little to no pay for it currently.
May 10th, 2012 at 9:47 am
earn him a trip to Hawaii
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Well, actually, no it won’t. The NFL has suspended the Pro Bowl indefinitely. The voting will still occur and teams will be announced, but the game will no longer be played.
May 10th, 2012 at 9:50 am
629. Good.. Nba needs to try it too.
May 10th, 2012 at 9:50 am
Why do people worry so much about how a player catches the football? I can give a damn if he catches it w/ his face mask. Just catch the damn ball and run up field.
May 10th, 2012 at 9:52 am
True probowlers. Not just guys who are healthy and feel like a trip to the island..
May 10th, 2012 at 9:54 am
What would you rather have a guy w/ good hands who will struggle to get open or a guy w/ so so hands who will get open and catch some and make plays and also, drop some balls?
I’ll take DHB
May 10th, 2012 at 9:55 am
every year that DHB is in the league, he will become more natural catching the football and making plays after the catch. he hasn’t lost any size or speed.
he’s got a better position coach and QB.
same supporting cast really, unless you think Criner & McGee(?) will contribute WAY more than Schilens & Housh did last season in limited roles ..
May 10th, 2012 at 9:56 am
Sometimes a great work ethic beats out talent.
May 10th, 2012 at 9:56 am
Criner might never play a game.. pretty late pick.
May 10th, 2012 at 9:57 am
he’s got a better position coach
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Long-live Sanjay!!!
May 10th, 2012 at 9:57 am
Bcz24 Says:
May 10th, 2012 at 9:47 am
earn him a trip to Hawaii
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Well, actually, no it won’t. The NFL has suspended the Pro Bowl indefinitely. The voting will still occur and teams will be announced, but the game will no longer be played.
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Good. All-Star games are never that great, but the Pro Bowl annually redefined “boring.”
May 10th, 2012 at 9:57 am
Marks hair Says:
May 10th, 2012 at 9:56 am
Criner might never play a game.. pretty late pick.
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He’ll def. get a shot in preseason to see what he has.
May 10th, 2012 at 9:57 am
DMAC Says:
May 10th, 2012 at 9:30 am
Wish I could of rode by bike to work 2day, but that fk’n hard ass seat be killing my gluteus maximus.
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what kinda bike you ride ?
i got a 04 softail springer. want to sell it and move up to a ultraclassic. lol lol not a kid antmore, want something with a radio and a windshield !!!!
May 10th, 2012 at 9:58 am
RR,
Criner is our J Nelson. He will play.
May 10th, 2012 at 9:59 am
Good morning fellas.
Happy Birthday Vegas and DMAC! Hope it’s a good one.
Vegas, you’re just a lil whippersnapper. 32..damn.lol.
I’m the same age as J Hill and Hwnrdr. Born in the summer of ‘69. August to be exact. Man just landed on the moon. The Hippies were wallowing in the mud at Woodstock. Manson family running wild in LA. Must’ve been some crazy times.
May 10th, 2012 at 9:59 am
Sometimes a great work ethic beats out talent.
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@DMAC
I think DHB has both. Also think we’ll start to see that talent lend it’s way on the football field in the form of plays made
he’ll still have the occasional boneheaded drop, as will Moore & Ford. Overall I think our WR corps will be a strength in ‘12, not a weakness.
May 10th, 2012 at 10:01 am
R8ER MIKE Says:
May 10th, 2012 at 9:57 am
DMAC Says:
May 10th, 2012 at 9:30 am
Wish I could of rode by bike to work 2day, but that fk’n hard ass seat be killing my gluteus maximus.
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what kinda bike you ride ?
i got a 04 softail springer. want to sell it and move up to a ultraclassic. lol lol not a kid antmore, want something with a radio and a windshield !!!!
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A 2000 and something Mongoose mountain bike.
lmao
I do want to get a Harley Road King. All my buddies are getting bikes and they’re trying to convince to get one. Maybe next year, when the $$$ is right.
May 10th, 2012 at 10:01 am
I used to have a dirt bike. 89 Yamaha 650XT. I had to sell it before our daughter was born. I crash a lot.
May 10th, 2012 at 10:02 am
Nelson was a beast in college. I wanted to pick him.
May 10th, 2012 at 10:02 am
Buckeye,
Glad to see you posting again. Leos rule!
May 10th, 2012 at 10:02 am
Thanx Buckeye
May 10th, 2012 at 10:04 am
Raider O Says:
May 10th, 2012 at 10:01 am
I used to have a dirt bike. 89 Yamaha 650XT. I had to sell it before our daughter was born. I crash a lot.
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Man I loved my little 80. Fun as hell.
May 10th, 2012 at 10:06 am
642.Buckeyeraider Says:
May 10th, 2012 at 9:59 am
Good morning fellas.
Happy Birthday Vegas and DMAC! Hope it’s a good one.
Vegas, you’re just a lil whippersnapper. 32..damn.lol.
I’m the same age as J Hill and Hwnrdr. Born in the summer of ‘69. August to be exact. Man just landed on the moon. The Hippies were wallowing in the mud at Woodstock. Manson family running wild in LA. Must’ve been some crazy times.
Great year! Of course, from what I’ve seen and been told! 70’s were a crazy time…looking back at old elementary pics…wtf? Who let us out of the house looking like that? LOL
May 10th, 2012 at 10:07 am
Criners no better than 6th or 7th on the depth chart. He shouldnt really play much at wr. Maybe he can play some sp teams?
May 10th, 2012 at 10:08 am
DMAC,
80s are fun. What year was it?
May 10th, 2012 at 10:11 am
Raider O Says:
May 10th, 2012 at 10:08 am
DMAC,
80s are fun. What year was it?
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I think a 2000
May 10th, 2012 at 10:15 am
651.Marks hair Says:
May 10th, 2012 at 10:07 am
Criners no better than 6th or 7th on the depth chart. He shouldnt really play much at wr. Maybe he can play some sp teams?
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Really. Please name 6 wrs on the roster that are better than Criner… please be sure to incude your reasoning with examples on how you feel that eddie mcgee and duke calhoun are better than Criner.
May 10th, 2012 at 10:16 am
Ok, according to PG…about a dozen vets will take part in the Rookie mini camp, but was told that Pryor will not be one of them! Well…I guess he really wants to prove himself…come on TP!
May 10th, 2012 at 10:16 am
If Duke Calhoun makes the team, I’m calling him Bugsy
May 10th, 2012 at 10:16 am
Remember that DMo17 was a 5th round pick too… by your logic that cat should have been 6th or 7th on the chart last year. He then proceeded to show that when 100% healthy he is the most talented WR on the roster…
May 10th, 2012 at 10:18 am
DMAC,
What happened to the bike?
May 10th, 2012 at 10:20 am
Happy birthday, DMAC!
May 10th, 2012 at 10:20 am
lol Hwnrdr
May 10th, 2012 at 10:21 am
Thanx tiger
May 10th, 2012 at 10:22 am
Raider O Says:
May 10th, 2012 at 10:18 am
DMAC,
What happened to the bike?
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Sold it to my patna for about $300.
I regret it.
May 10th, 2012 at 10:27 am
Birthdays, ay? Happy Birthday, fellas. Congrats on being 1 year wiser.
May 10th, 2012 at 10:28 am
‘Sup O.
Nice article on Buckeye football in SI a couple of weeks ago. Hope you caught it. Another Urban Renewal. Meyer will have OSU playing for another Nat’l Championship in another year or two.
I hope BSJ and other Meeeeshigan fans enjoyed last years once-in-a-decade victory. It’ll be awhile before they see another.
I can’t wait to watch Pryor this preseason against pro athletes. There were times in college where he just looked like a man amongst boys. Great athlete. Deceptive long strides. Pulled away from people and just seemed to be gliding. Punishing stiff arm.
He’s just going to have to learn how to read pro defenses….like most young quarterbacks.
He should get most of the snaps vs Dallas in that MNF opener. Can’t wait.
May 10th, 2012 at 10:28 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
May 10th, 2012 at 9:12 am
D-Mac, your B-day too?
I was born on Mothers day in 1980.
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happy friggin mothers day mom! lol
May 10th, 2012 at 10:29 am
663
thanx
May 10th, 2012 at 10:31 am
hwnrdr Says:
May 10th, 2012 at 10:16 am
Ok, according to PG…about a dozen vets will take part in the Rookie mini camp, but was told that Pryor will not be one of them! Well…I guess he really wants to prove himself…come on TP!
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Is he even allowed to attend?
May 10th, 2012 at 10:31 am
May 10th, 2012 at 10:31 am
hwnrdr Says:
May 10th, 2012 at 10:16 am
Ok, according to PG…about a dozen vets will take part in the Rookie mini camp, but was told that Pryor will not be one of them! Well…I guess he really wants to prove himself…come on TP!
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Is he even allowed to attend?
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sorry nevermind
May 10th, 2012 at 10:31 am
667.HairyBush Says:
May 10th, 2012 at 10:31 am
hwnrdr Says:
May 10th, 2012 at 10:16 am
Ok, according to PG…about a dozen vets will take part in the Rookie mini camp, but was told that Pryor will not be one of them! Well…I guess he really wants to prove himself…come on TP!
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Is he even allowed to attend?
I believe he can…
May 10th, 2012 at 10:37 am
hwnrdr Says:
May 10th, 2012 at 10:31 am
667.HairyBush Says:
May 10th, 2012 at 10:31 am
hwnrdr Says:
May 10th, 2012 at 10:16 am
Ok, according to PG…about a dozen vets will take part in the Rookie mini camp, but was told that Pryor will not be one of them! Well…I guess he really wants to prove himself…come on TP!
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Is he even allowed to attend?
I believe he can…
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I didn’t realize you had said a dozen vets will take part. I thought It was only rookies for some reason.
May 10th, 2012 at 10:38 am
I know, I saw your answer back post after I posted that…it’s all good!
May 10th, 2012 at 10:42 am
Hwnrdr,
LOL. Everybody has some of those pics. The ’70s. Bad clothes, bad hair.
Used to get the packs of tube socks with colored stripes, pulled up to the knees, no less. Cut-off jean shorts. Big, wide collars. Ugh.
I have a JR High yearbook picture, that my buddy still tries to blackmail me with and threatens to show my wife. Early ’80s Big Hair. LOL. I had a white dude Afro. Thick, long wavy hair. It’s Hilarious.
I’m like WTF was I thinking?
May 10th, 2012 at 10:48 am
LOL, I still have my state ID taken when I was 18…I was almost 70 pounds skinnier and my hair was past my shoulders
May 10th, 2012 at 10:50 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
May 10th, 2012 at 9:41 am
I fully expect DHB will have what might be considered a “breakout” year
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@Dave
I bet DHB, Moore & Ford have all upped thier games over the offseason. Palmer gets a full offseason. Legit coaching staff. Might have a late-round steal in Criner.
If our WR corps remain mostly healthy, I like Heyward-Bey will be lethal. If DMo17 is a baller and uncontested #1 WR he will be doubled and DHB will have his way singled up on 2nd or 3rd CB’s.
He had 64 catches for 975 yards & 4 TD’s last season. 15+ ypc
My projection is 80 catches for 1200 yards & 8 TD’s in 2012
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I’ll take that! I’d be happy with 75 catches and 1,000 yds. The kid is certainly capable. He can catch now where as before he could barely catch a cold.
May 10th, 2012 at 10:51 am
Mgee has more time with cp3 and in the nfl.
Calhoun beat out hagen. Hagen was better than murphy..
May 10th, 2012 at 10:53 am
Oh thats was for 654.
May 10th, 2012 at 10:59 am
I really don’t care who the 5th & 6th WR’s are.
hopefully our Top 4 WR’s are healthy throughout the season and these other kids won’t be forced onto the field
May 10th, 2012 at 10:59 am
Buckeye,
I told Preppie to enjoy that win (we almost won the game), because UM and THE OSU Buckeyes are going to destroy Mich.
I hope the new coaching staff is capable of developing young talented QBs. I like what Knapp did with Yates, and I hope he can do the same with TP.
May 10th, 2012 at 11:05 am
Buckeye,
Did you attend HS in Ohio. I’m a Northland Viking.
May 10th, 2012 at 11:19 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
May 10th, 2012 at 10:59 am
I really don’t care who the 5th & 6th WR’s are.
hopefully our Top 4 WR’s are healthy throughout the season and these other kids won’t be forced onto the field
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Sorry, but I gotta disagree with you here. In the old Al Davis days, we had scrubs at the 5th and 6th WR spots – mainly scholarship burners with no instincts and who couldn’t be relied on if the first unit got injured. In today’s pass crazy game, you need capable WR’s down to your last man. Injuries are something to count on, competition is always good for the entire group, and the top 4 guys have to feel the heat if they are underperforming. This is the new way hopefully that Reggie implements. Gone are the days of wasted roster spots for Al’s pets.
May 10th, 2012 at 11:19 am
O,
Yeah, I lived in Ohio my whole life ’til this Jan. I grew up in the south suburbs of Dayton, Oh.
Our big rival in football was a school called Centerville. They were the bullies on the block and had an excellent football program. They also had a pipeline to Ohio State.
Kirk Herbstreidt, the BSPN college football analyst is from C-Ville/OSU. As a matter of fact, that’s my buddies Al Bundy HS football moment of glory. Grabbing Herbies facemask and ripping off his helmet.
AJ Hawk, and Bengals kicker Mike Nugent are from there also. Jets C Nick Mangold is from the Catholic school in my hometown.
Good HS football played in Ohio.
May 10th, 2012 at 11:21 am
My projection is 80 catches for 1200 yards & 8 TD’s in 2012
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If you average out DHB’s numbers from games in which he and Palmer both started and finished the game, then multiply by 16 games, you get 84 catches for 1200+ yards and 7 TDs, do that prediction is not off base at all. In fact, these numbers could get better in a year in which DHB and Palmer go through a preseason together.
May 10th, 2012 at 11:22 am
*so instead of do
May 10th, 2012 at 11:25 am
Predict what you want for DHB. There’s no more Hue to force feed the ball to DHB. Palmer loves to throw to guys who can actually catch the ball. DMoore17 is a good bet for 84/1200+/7+. I think even Criner has a chance to have better numbers than DHB.
May 10th, 2012 at 11:26 am
The Raiders will work out free agent OT Kevin Haslam this weekend.
Haslam will attend rookie minicamp on a tryout basis. The 25-year-old was waived in March by the Jaguars, who have some of the poorest offensive line depth in the league. Haslam is a former undrafted free agent from Rutgers.
Free agent TE Joey Haynos will try out for the Raiders this weekend.
He’ll participate in Oakland’s rookie minicamp. Haynos, a 6-foot-8, 270-pound blocking specialist, was out of the NFL last year after the Jags waived him.
May 10th, 2012 at 11:31 am
Maybe it’s a sign that I’m getting old. I don’t get the player interviews with the UDFA’s and the question of what’s their XBOX “handle”. I honestly don’t know WTF that is and don’t care.
To me, these kids are little babies if they are still playing video games instead of committing themselves 100% to the game of football. That’s one of the real reasons I was sad to see a true pro like Derek Hagan go. We need more like him, and the “XBOX handle” question should be a trick question to determine who really wants it and who needs to go back to being a couch potato.
May 10th, 2012 at 11:33 am
My Xbox handle? “NONE”
May 10th, 2012 at 11:34 am
hwnrdr Says:
May 10th, 2012 at 11:33 am
My Xbox handle? “NONE”
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sign him up!
May 10th, 2012 at 11:36 am
Maybe it’s a sign that I’m getting old. I don’t get the player interviews with the UDFA’s and the question of what’s their XBOX “handle”. I honestly don’t know WTF that is and don’t care.
*****************************i am so old i thought a Xbox was a Scion XB !!!
May 10th, 2012 at 11:37 am
I miss OHIO! I will be back.
May 10th, 2012 at 11:39 am
LMAO ODB!
May 10th, 2012 at 11:41 am
R8ER MIKE Says:
May 10th, 2012 at 11:36 am
Maybe it’s a sign that I’m getting old. I don’t get the player interviews with the UDFA’s and the question of what’s their XBOX “handle”. I honestly don’t know WTF that is and don’t care.
*****************************i am so old i thought a Xbox was a Scion XB !!!
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So whats your take on a play station?
lol
May 10th, 2012 at 11:46 am
So whats your take on a play station?
lol
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Thats one of them things like an atari game ?? right ??
May 10th, 2012 at 11:47 am
I’d love it if Dennis Allen brought an XBOX to the training room and took a sledgehammer to it in front of everyone. Just vent his disgust at the time wasted exercising thumbs instead of getting ripped in the gym. Send a message to those who aren’t sure yet about their committment to excellence.
May 10th, 2012 at 11:47 am
So what’s new? We sign Cedrick the Troublemaker Benson yet?
May 10th, 2012 at 11:48 am
R8ER MIKE Says:
May 10th, 2012 at 11:46 am
So whats your take on a play station?
lol
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Thats one of them things like an atari game ?? right ??
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Nooooooooo
Its a place where you hook up w/ gilfs and have a good time.
lol
May 10th, 2012 at 11:48 am
LOL
Long Live ODB!!
May 10th, 2012 at 11:51 am
Cedric*
May 10th, 2012 at 11:55 am
don’t want cedric* the batterer
May 10th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
Scintillating conversation.
May 10th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
A little update for YOU Laker fans
Kobe Bryant (gastroenteritis) did not participate in Thursday morning’s shootaround.
Gastroenteritis is a fancy word for a stomach bug. The Lakers aren’t commenting on Bryant’s status for Thursday night’s Game 6 in Denver, only saying they’ll update his status at roughly 9 p.m. ET. However, it would be an absolute shock if Bryant misses a playoff game. He’s played through much, much worse.
Source: Scott Howard-Cooper on Twitter
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Kobe’s got the B-gizzles!
LMAO
May 10th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
There were times in college where he just looked like a man amongst boys. Great athlete. Deceptive long strides. Pulled away from people and just seemed to be gliding.
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Buck,
I agree with the above. When I watched Pryor leave the pocket in college, it looked like he was jogging some times, yet nobody would catch him and he would angle off towards the sidelines for the easiest 18 yards you ever seen.
May 10th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
A little Pepto Bismol will clear that up in no time! Comforting to know Kobe gets the sh*ts once in a while!
I wonder if he splattered his azz with a bunch of diarrhea or if he was smart enough to flush just as he was peeing out of his butt.
May 10th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
Two guys I’d like to see us pick up are
Aubrayo Franklin
&
Tim Hightower
Hightower can be that Zack Crockett type.
Whats the knock on Franklin? Anyones thoughts?
May 10th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
I wonder if a Mexican restaurant in Denver was the culprit!?
May 10th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
Raidernationdave Says:
May 10th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
A little Pepto Bismol will clear that up in no time! Comforting to know Kobe gets the sh*ts once in a while!
I wonder if he splattered his azz with a bunch of diarrhea or if he was smart enough to flush just as he was peeing out of his butt.
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Thanx for fking up my delicious lunch Dave.
lol
May 10th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
Raider Riff Says:
May 10th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
Two guys I’d like to see us pick up are
Aubrayo Franklin
&
Tim Hightower
Hightower can be that Zack Crockett type.
Whats the knock on Franklin? Anyones thoughts?
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Is Hightower still a FA?
I thought he got signed.
May 10th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
What does Mitt Romney’s bullying tell us?
By Greg Sargent
The story of the morning is that 18-year-old Mitt Romney and a bunch of prep school buds bullied John Lauber, who had bleached blond hair that covered one eye and was relentlessly teased for his “nonconformity and presumed homosexuality,” as today’s Post puts it.
Romney and his pals held Lauber down and Romney clipped the kid’s hair as he teared up and yelled for help. One former classmate called the episode “vicious.”
Today, Romney apologized, though he didn’t cop to the actual episode:
“Back in high school, I did some dumb things, and if anybody was hurt by that or offended, obviously I apologize for that…I participated in a lot of hijinks and pranks during high school, and some might have gone too far, and for that I apologize.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/post/what-does-mitt-romneys-bullying-tell-us/2012/05/10/gIQAeAuyFU_blog.html
May 10th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
Whats the knock on Franklin? Anyones thoughts?
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He’s a NT, and teams are having less and less of a need for a run-stuffer, when a lot of teams (including the best one’s) toss the ball 45 times a game.
May 10th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
DMAC Says:
May 10th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
Thanx for fking up my delicious lunch Dave.
lol
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I feel a little like Forrest Gump at the “Black Panther Party! “Sorry I talked about Kobe’s sh*t in the middle of your lunch DMAC.”
Happy B-Day BTW!
May 10th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
That just made me like Romney even more.
May 10th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
Nooooooooo
Its a place where you hook up w/ gilfs and have a good time.
lol
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the best place for that is in the super market.
just hang out in the polly-grip isle !!
May 10th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
Franklin played well w/ the Whiners as a 3-4 nose. Didn’t to schit and kind of dissapeared in that 4-3 w/ the Saints.
May 10th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
Buckeyeraider Says:
May 10th, 2012 at 10:28 am
I hope BSJ and other Meeeeshigan fans enjoyed last years once-in-a-decade victory.
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Much respect for the Bob Ufer reference.
http://bentley.umich.edu/athdept/stadium/stadtext/ufer.htm
That said, THE Suckeye University would have to win for several decades just to even the score with the winningest program in NCAA history.
It MIGHT help if you and Mustafa belt out a rousing chorus of “I wish I was an Urban Meyer Weiner!”
May 10th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
Thanx
May 10th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
Pryor doubting his love of the game is concerning. If he’s that fragile up in the head, that disconnected from his former gig as BMOC, if he can’t live without being the center of attention of the coaching staff…maybe he’s just not tough enough mentally to make it.
I’m dissapointed with his candid admission of mental weakness. He should have kept that to himself. No one’s going to look out for him to be the superstar he thinks he is, so he’s going to have to take it by force. This is a mans league, nobody is volunteering to be TP’s wet nurse.
Pryor’s gotta suck it up and stop talking this nonsense. Shut all the doubters up with his play on the field, and put away the violins for his heat deprived mom who couldn’t pay her bills. Whatever he did good or bad is passed him now. Time to step up his game. It’s all that matters.
May 10th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
Trade Terrile Pryer for a case of the B-gizzles!
May 10th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
R8ER MIKE Says:
May 10th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
Nooooooooo
Its a place where you hook up w/ gilfs and have a good time.
lol
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the best place for that is in the super market.
just hang out in the polly-grip isle !!
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lol
I thought they were on the isle where the mexican products are looking for chorizo.
May 10th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AT3XVnKcl2Y
Kobe on the way to the game with Blakey, Pol, and Andrew
May 10th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
McFadden nailing Rihanna? McFadden is going to have to knock Chris Brown out when he starts stalking them to restaurants!
May 10th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
Dakota Says:
May 10th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
McFadden nailing Rihanna? McFadden is going to have to knock Chris Brown out when he starts stalking them to restaurants!
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Is this true or is it another lie Dakota?
May 10th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
Did John Travolta make a big donation to the Prez recently?
May 10th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
Never mind. I found this.
Rihanna — I’m NOT Dating Raiders RB Darren McFadden
Rihanna is adamant … she’s NOT dating Raiders running back Darren McFadden — despite reports the two were spotted making out in Hawaii a couple weeks ago.Sources close to Rihanna tell us, the singer did meet Darren last month in Honolulu — while she was promoting her new film “Battleship” — but they kept things strictly platonic.We’re told Darren — who was WITH HIS GIRLFRIEND — introduced himself to Rihanna as a fan … and Rihanna bought Darren and his GF drinks on the beach. That’s it.But that doesn’t mean Rihanna can’t support her new pal — which might explain why the singer wore a Raiders jersey to a New York strip club last week.
May 10th, 2012 at 12:25 pm
DMAC better watch out for me, when Rihanna shows up at the coliseum. I might even snatch from him.
May 10th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
721.DMAC Says:
May 10th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
Dakota Says:
May 10th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
McFadden nailing Rihanna? McFadden is going to have to knock Chris Brown out when he starts stalking them to restaurants!
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Is this true or is it another lie Dakota?
SOmeone tweeted that they lke how Matt Kemp faired after Rhianna and was hoping the same for McFadden!
May 10th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
724.DMAC Says:
May 10th, 2012 at 12:25 pm
DMAC better watch out for me, when Rihanna shows up at the coliseum. I might even snatch from him.
LOL
May 10th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
Rihanna?
Hope she don’t smash his glass legs doin the reverse cowgirl…
May 10th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
May 10th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
Rihanna?
Hope she don’t smash his glass legs doin the reverse cowgirl…
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lol
Nice 1 BO
May 10th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
Peace out ya’ll.
I’m gone.
Be safe players.
May 10th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
enjoy your special day, hippie!
May 10th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
DMAC Says:
May 10th, 2012 at 12:25 pm
DMAC better watch out for me, when Rihanna shows up at the coliseum. I might even snatch from him.
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lol lol DMAC snatchs kisses and vice versa !!! lol lol
May 10th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
have a good you DMAC..
and happy birthday my Green Party brother !!
May 10th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
Mitt Romney is such a charismatic fellow, isn’t he?
May 10th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
*day
May 10th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
KoolKell Says:
May 10th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
Mitt Romney is such a charismatic fellow, isn’t he?
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Now don’t start chasing him around the Safeway lot, Chocula.
May 10th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
No worries Boo, he won’t show up here in Alameda. He’ll be trying to shizzle you people in Ohio, though.
May 10th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
Mitt Romney is such a charismatic fellow, isn’t he?
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Apparently more so than this Leuber fellow.
May 10th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
Raiders’ Heyward-Bey charged with drunk driving…SF Gate
Will he get suspended by the league if convicted?
May 10th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
DHB got a DUI? I would much rather have these players playing a little XBOX or Playstation in there off time than getting caught up. If they do go out for a few atleast pay for driver, I think they can afford it.
May 10th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
How Bad Was Mitt Romney’s Prep School Bullying?
In a must-read piece today, the Washington Post’s Jason Horowitz reports that Mitt Romney was a prep school meanie. The story, which Horowitz got independently from five of Romney’s former classmates, is that after spring break in 1965, Romney came back to Cranbrook, his all-male private school in Michigan, and noticed that John Lauber, a new student a year younger than him, was wearing his hair bleached blond and hanging down over one eye. Lauber generally got teased for looking different and seeming gay, though he was not out. Romney’s friend at the time, Matthew Friedemann, recalls that Romney said of Lauber, “He can’t look like that. That’s wrong. Just look at him!” Romney kept complaining, and a few days later led a “prep school posse” that “came upon Lauber, tackled him and pinned him to the ground.”
Here’s the clincher: “As Lauber, his eyes filling with tears, screamed for help, Romney repeatedly clipped his hair with a pair of scissors.”
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/bulle/2012/05/romney_s_bullying_how_bad_was_the_vicious_incident_reported_by_the_washington_post_.html
May 10th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
http://www.tmz.com/2012/05/09/rihanna-darren-mcfadden-dating/
Damn she looks good in silver and black
May 10th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
May 10th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
That just made me like Romney even more.
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No doubt, but “you people” are being rapidly out-numbered. As proven by the election of 0bama.
May 10th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
738.DutchRaider77 Says:
May 10th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
Raiders’ Heyward-Bey charged with drunk driving…SF Gate
Will he get suspended by the league if convicted?
I swear…hey if I can go to SF with a designated driver…I’m pretty sure these guys can too!
May 10th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
Bush didn’t get suspended, so DHB should be all right.
1 game at worst (unless we found out he was going 115 miles with a bag of coke on him or something).
May 10th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
Right there should be s new story for a new post…let’s see….
May 10th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
What will be higher, DHB’s BAC or career YPC?
May 10th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
How’s the gang?…
May 10th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
727.Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
May 10th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
Rihanna?
Hope she don’t smash his glass legs doin the reverse cowgirl…
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lol
May 10th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
I am shocked that DHB was busted for DUI!!!!! I mean, how the hell does he hold a mug of beer with those stone hands of his?
May 10th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
Darrius Heyward-Bey was charged with DUI Thursday following an arrest last month on the Bay Bridge.
The arrest occurred at 2 a.m. on April 7 when Heyward-Bey was spotted speeding and weaving in his lane. Although Heyward-Bey was “very cooperative” with officers, he failed a field sobriety test at the scene. The Raiders leading receiver last season, Heyward-Bey does not have a history of legal troubles.
Source: San Francisco Chronicle
May 10th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
Viqueens have almost secured a new stadium agreement with Minny…..Jags new owner committed to staying in Jax….looks like LA will be pushing hard for the Oakland Raiders to move to LA!
May 10th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
new post
May 10th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
I wouldn’t bone Rihanna with 7 Magnums and an inside out Dorito bag rubber banned around my ding dong
That ho has been passed around more times than a bag of gummy bears at a Faith Hill concert
Yo, I might let the Certified Platinum Posse take their turn with that skank but only if they sanitized their junk afterward in a tub of Listerine
STRAIGHT UP BALLIN’
May 10th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
May 10th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
I wouldn’t bone Rihanna with 7 Magnums and an inside out Dorito bag rubber banned around my ding dong
That ho has been passed around more times than a bag of gummy bears at a Faith Hill concert
Yo, I might let the Certified Platinum Posse take their turn with that skank but only if they sanitized their junk afterward in a tub of Listerine
STRAIGHT UP BALLIN’
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Can I get a whoop, whoop! Too damn funny Dawg! I know I shouldn’t encourage you any. My bad.
May 10th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
Dakota Says:
May 10th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
Viqueens have almost secured a new stadium agreement with Minny…..Jags new owner committed to staying in Jax….looks like LA will be pushing hard for the Oakland Raiders to move to LA!
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It’s enviable that Oaktown’s moving back to Hollyweird