Raiders announce revamped personnel department

Posted on May 15, 2012 by Steve Corkran

Jon Kingdon, Bruce Kebric, Kent McCloughan and George Karras either were fired from or retired earlier this month from the Raiders personnl department. As promised, general manager Reggie McKenzie has succeeded in restructuring the department.

A few minutes ago, the Raiders announced the names and roles of those in their revamped personnel department:

Teddy Atlas, scouting coordinator
Calvin Branch, college scout
Joey Clinkscales, director – player personnel
Zack Crockett, college scout
Tom Delaney, director – football administration
Shaun Herock, director – college scouting
Von Hutchins, pro scout
Brad Kaplan, college scout
Larry Marmie, pro scout
Mickey Marvin, college scout
David McCloughan, college scout
Raleigh McKenzie, college scout
Trey Scott, college scout
Dane Vandernat, pro scout

Steve Corkran

Try Some Reality

#196 – Great point, DJ.
DJ Johnny

Even after Dan Patrick’s interview w/ Carson he mentioned how much we gave up for Palmer…said he thought it was too much but also said it was an understandable move given the circumstances.

Is Cutler better than Palmer? I don’t think so, but the Bears gave up more than we did to get him.

I’m out here in Chicago and I never even hear the local guys out here mention what they gave up. They all love the deal. I don’t even think anyone out here knows…or cares.
realtruraider

#188

Im not sure why the Eagles didn’t bring back Schmitt, I read some Eagle fans comments and they really liked him kinda like the Giants fans liked Tollefson. These are two guys who aren’t very flashy or nothing, but they get love from there ex teams fans. I put some weight in that. I believe there could be a place for Owen here, even with Reece.
http://www.raiders.com Raider O

I watch to ESPN and NFLN to get football news, but I’m not interested in their opinions.
DJ Johnny

Thx Reality. I know i’m beating this to death but given the circumstances the Palmer deal for us made a heck of alot more sense than Cutler.

Bears not only gave up the 2 1st rounders and the 3rd but a bonafide healthy starter in Kyle Orton.

We replaced Kyle Boller. What makes more sense?
http://www.raiders.com Raider O

Cutler is younger than Palmer, and he was in his prime when the Bears traded for him.
Hardline

I am not worried about the # 2 QB controversy. What I do wonder is , what about the D??

Seems Corko was way silent on it today, saying that there were few notable plays or play makers coming to the fore and that Sho-Nasty is still recovering from surgery, and “should be ready” for training camp.

When I posed the question in the live chat earlier, asking Corky how did the CB’s look, he didn’t reply. With my question I made the comment that last year the CB’s almost never turned their heads when the ball came in, and put a hand in an attempt to make a play. I then asked Corky have they changed that flawed procedure at this OTA?

There was no answer.
http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

I think the NFL World will be watching the Raiders this year. Noting the differences of past to present. Maybe even pulling for them.
http://www.raiders.com Raider O

We did pay a lot for a guy who was out of football for half a season, his old team drafted a QB to replce him who played well, and he was 31-32 YO.
http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

Hard to judge Defense when there’s no contact allowed.
Try Some Reality

Raider O Says:
May 15th, 2012 at 10:43 pm

I watch to ESPN and NFLN to get football news, but I’m not interested in their opinions.

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Berman (for highlights) & Clayton. The rest can take a hike.
http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

Sure , unless they say something good.
http://www.raiders.com Raider O

Don’t forget the fact that Palmer refused to play for Cincinnati, and he was ready to retire.
http://www.raiders.com Raider O

TSR,

I forgot about that. Thank you. I also like Game replay on NFLN.
Hardline

DJ Johnny,

Look to the suspicious nature of the transaction and not so much the price we paid for CP. The trade was put together by Hue the Pimpin Magnificent under exigent circumstances (or so says Hue) in order that the Raiders make it to the playoffs, which Hue later admitted at his exit presser, he knew would never happen.

Frankly speaking I would have offered the couch potato CP $2M up front, back loaded with incentives. I would have told to Bengals to go kick rocks regarding any draft choices.

But, that is who I am, I won’t pay full price for anything, especially if it is on the downward maintanence curve.

Of course, any thing the Pimpin Magnificent had his hand in, the posters veiw as suspect.
Hardline

KoolKell Says:
May 15th, 2012 at 10:50 pm
Hard to judge Defense when there’s no contact allowed.
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No contact is allowed in OTA’s?
http://www.raiders.com Raider O

No contact in OTAs.
http://www.raiders.com Raider O

I happy that we traded for Palmer, but u do think we overplayed for him, but no one will care after we win a SB!
http://www.raiders.com Raider O

I’m
http://www.raiders.com Raider O

Raider O Says:
May 15th, 2012 at 11:00 pm
I happy that we traded for Palmer, but u do think we overplayed for him, but no one will care after we win a SB!
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Who let Monkey O out of its cage?

I’m happy that we traded for Palmer, but I do think we overpaid for him, but no one will care after we win a SB.
Try Some Reality

High price? Sure. But let’s face it folks, good QBs that can make the throws Palmer can just don’t grow on trees. How many #1s have been wasted on crap QBs? Hello Russell and countless others. You pay a high price for good QBs in this league.

And you have to admit, the ceiling was low with Campbell. Get to the playoffs, and good teams merely need to stack the box to stop our running game. Force him to win it with his arm. He was happy to sign on as Cutler’s backup. What does that tell you?

You’re right O, nobody will care if we win.
http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

IF WE WIN
DJ Johnny

Hardline and Raider O, Good points but my beef is that Palmers name can’t be mentioned w/o talking about how much was given up when many other questionable deals with teams giving up a ton gets a pass…ala Cuter.

Last I checked Cutler might be the 3rd best in his own division.
http://www.raiders.com Raider O

I agree with Vegas about Palmer, he needs to be more careful with the ball. He trusts his arm too much.
RaiderDebo

DJ Johnny Says:
May 15th, 2012 at 10:29 pm
I realize Raiders gave up alot to get Palmer but it seems his name can’t come up without mentioning what we gave up to get him.

Do you guys EVER hear mention of what Chicago gave up to get Cutler?

-TWO 1st round picks (non conditional) AND a 3rd rounder PLUS Kyle Orton.

I NEVER hear anyone talk about the pressure on the Bears to win a Super Bowl becuz of that trade…NEVER.

Noone ever talks about what they gave up.

I guess with Buffalo paying Fitzpatrick 55 million they’d better win one as well, and how much time do we allow Washington before they MUST win a SB for what they gave up for RGiii?
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Simple answer: Cutler is a damn good QB who was coming off an all-world season. Palmer sucks and was sitting on the couch after tossing 20 ints and leading his team to a 4-12 record.
Try Some Reality

Yeah, a little too Favre-like in that regard. Needs to work on that.
Try Some Reality

Debo – sit back and enjoy as Palmer outplays Cutler this year.
http://www.raiders.com Raider O

DJ,

Cutler was 26 when the Bears traded for him. Palmer was 32, he was retired, and Cinci moved forward with a rookie QB who was playing at a high level.
http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

Should Hue Jacskon have folded tent when Jason Cambell went down? Tough spot.
Hardline

Try Some Reality,

CP is worth it if he wins.

BTW, I was unmercifully hammered by dozens of posters who were JC worshippers, for stating during the season that JC was a second, nothing less and nothing more. That AD operated in a state of dementia was evidenced by the fact that AD claimed JC was the next “Jim Plunkett.”

When a QB trips on his bottom lip that remains unfurled past his knees, it’s hard to get past the image of him being a back-up, notwithstanding the fact that JC had no fire and couldn’t make the throws.

I still remember in one of his final games the INT he threw right to an inside linebacker opponent who was standing still: the ball wasn’t tipped, batted up into the air. JC flat misidentified the other side’s linebacker; and BTW the linebacker looked shocked too. TV announcers tried to explain it away and couldn’t. It was a very awkward moment.

Of course those same JC worshippers are now eating crow, and big helpings of it, when JC signed as a back-up merely 24 hrs after hitting FA.
RaiderDebo

Try Some Reality Says:
May 15th, 2012 at 11:21 pm

Debo – sit back and enjoy as Palmer outplays Cutler this year.

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Love the name man, but you should really take your own advice. Why in the hell would I ever believe that Carson Palmer will outplay Jay Cutler??? Give me the choice between Cutler and Palmer and I’ll take Cutler 11 times out of 10.
http://www.raiders.com Raider O

TSR,

I like our offense, but you have to admit, the Bears have a good offense too.
QB: Cutler, Campbell
RB: Forte, Bush
WR: Brandon Marhall, Knox, and Hester
Hardline

Culter is an excellent talent. However his greatest attribute is laying an egg when it comes down to it. Culter is nothing now, and will be nothing in the future. He is a 2nd stringer too.

Champions find a way to win…..not to lose.
http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

Hardline

You were hammered by JC worshippers? Really? I’ve only seen the Hardlind handle in the last couple of weeks.
Try Some Reality

Hardline – I think I know who you speak of. It’s mainly one delusional cat in here that would have everyone thinking JC was a legend in the making, and a few of his minions. Clearly, the guy had an agenda. Funny thing is that clown came in here the other day to call others imposters. After all that crap he painted these blog walls with, we’re the imposters? LOL. Guy doesn’t know his pie hole from his dookie maker.
Hardline

KoolKell Says:
May 15th, 2012 at 11:31 pm
Hardline

You were hammered by JC worshippers? Really? I’ve only seen the Hardlind handle in the last couple of weeks.
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KK,

yes I was, not that it affected me, because I knew I was right.
Hardline

JC overall is probably better than Cutler, since at least JC is steady. He is not flashy, but probably wouldn’t roll over like Cutler in critical games.
Try Some Reality

RaiderDebo Says:
May 15th, 2012 at 11:25 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
May 15th, 2012 at 11:21 pm

Debo – sit back and enjoy as Palmer outplays Cutler this year.

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Love the name man, but you should really take your own advice. Why in the hell would I ever believe that Carson Palmer will outplay Jay Cutler??? Give me the choice between Cutler and Palmer and I’ll take Cutler 11 times out of 10.

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Really? Interesting. Especially considering that Palmer really came into his own towards the end there. In fact, why yes, compare the last 3 games played by both QBs and guess which one outplayed the other in every single one of them? That’s right, your Oakland Raiders starting QB. Be happy about it. And quit p1ssing in the kool-aid.
http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

We’re getting closer day by day, to seeing how this all plays out.

Gnite Gents.