Raiders add veteran fullback
By Steve Corkran
Wednesday, May 16th, 2012 at 12:03 am in Oakland Raiders.
The Raiders concluded a busy day Tuesday by signing veteran fullback Owen Schmitt.
Schmitt, 27, spent the past two seasons with the Philadelphia Eagles after a two-year stint with the Seattle Seahawks. He appeared in 61 games during his first four NFL seasons.
Schmitt, 6-feet-2 and 245 pounds, is a punishing blocker, especially in the run game. The Raiders currently have Marcel Reece and Manase Tonga at fullback on their roster.
However, it’s conceivable that Schmitt could force out Tonga at some point, given he has more experience.
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May 16th, 2012 at 12:05 am
Punish ‘em!
May 16th, 2012 at 12:07 am
Steve burning the midnight oil. Love that dedication!
May 16th, 2012 at 12:07 am
1st!!!!
May 16th, 2012 at 1:01 am
where is Tonga anyway? Not at OTA. Tonga is old too even though he’s only played 1 year in NFL, 2 incl. practice squad.
May 16th, 2012 at 1:53 am
Its so early but just the way the organization and trial of players using all avenues. I cant contain my enthusiasm for this team and organization. Once again its great to be a raiderfan. Things are gonna change for the better. I ll be even more excited once we get that franchise Qb down the road. Go raiders forever
May 16th, 2012 at 2:04 am
Awesome signing. It’s about time we had a proper fullback. Who was the last one with potential, Oren O’Neal? This guy’s going to leave a helmet-print on Chargers, Broncos, and Chiefs all year long. Booyah!
May 16th, 2012 at 3:17 am
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May 16th, 2012 at 4:30 am
Sullivan!! With lures and bait
May 16th, 2012 at 4:58 am
to early
May 16th, 2012 at 5:36 am
Reggie living up to his promise of every day adding good or better players to every position on the roster for competition to raise the overall standard of each depth chart.
May 16th, 2012 at 5:38 am
Makes sense to go after Schmitt considering he played under Greg Knapp for the Seahawks in ‘09. He’s started more games for them (30)than Reece has for us (26). He’s also been a very good special teams player so that’s a bonus. Tonga may be on his way out if he can’t step up his game.
May 16th, 2012 at 5:41 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
It will be an interesting battle for FB opposite Reece…or maybe, if Reece doesn’t sign. You never know!
May 16th, 2012 at 5:44 am
I can also see what the Raiders offense is gonna be like with this signing.
All about subterfuge. Having Scmitt in on say 1st and 2nd down, or on 3rd and short, double TE set from the singleback, or a straight-up I-formation, obvious run situation, play-action fake to McFadden, springs Denarius Moore or David Ausberry deep like that Texans TD they did on us last season.
Then other times having Reece in, giving the impression of a pass play, but running the ball with Reece blocking.
All mixed in with times when Schmitt bludgeons open holes for Dmac, and times when Reece motions out to the slot or from the FB position runs out to the flats in the redzone for an easy reception TD in the corner.
May 16th, 2012 at 5:46 am
Training camp Fullback crew:
Owen Schmitt
Manasa Tonga
Treshawn Robinson
Marcel Reece
Reece is a lock once he finally signs his tender. I think Schmitt pushes Tonga and Robinson off the roster. I hear he’s a tough guy, and we’ve needed someone like that especially now that we are going back to the WCO offense with zone blocking.
May 16th, 2012 at 5:47 am
Raiders roster is gonna be fun on Madden 13 btw. Naturally, Pryor at QB.
May 16th, 2012 at 5:52 am
Should be an interesting year! Glad to see McFadden at what he says is full strength! Now, if we can keep that guy off the injury list…
May 16th, 2012 at 6:05 am
It’s good that we are kicking tires on a Fullback but Schmitt may not be all that good.
In 4 years he has started 2 games for Seattle and 10 for Philly.
Some stuff from the web:
“The former Seahawks and Eagles lead blocker was rated as one of the league’s least effective fullbacks in 2011 by Pro Football Focus.”
“Consider this (per Pro Football Focus): In 2010, Owen Schmitt played in 33 percent of the team’s offensive snaps. In 2011, that number dwindled down to just 16 percent.”
From a Seattle blog:
“Outlook: Schmitt is nearing the dangerous place in an athlete’s career where they are as much mascot as player. That’s no good. It’s not good for Owen and it’s not good for Seattle…
Schmitt should have spent last season taking his lumps and learning his trade, but with Greg Knapp came Justin Griffith, and with Griffith came a sham preseason competition decided in Griffith’s favor.
So Schmitt spent much of the season playing special teams and seeing only occasional snaps. Schmitt seemed very much the same player at the end of the season as he was at the beginning: tough, quick, punishing and not ready for Sunday at fullback.
He needs work pass blocking and pass receiving. He needs to be targeted in traffic and show the same kind of poise facing imminent contact an NFL defenders as he does facing imminent bashing of his skull with a helmet.
Schmitt has the potential to be a great run blocker, but he doesn’t see holes particularly well, especially compared to Justin Griffith, and he needs experience to learn. Most important and most glaring, Schmitt needs to recognize a free pass rusher and prove he can hit and sustain.
Schmitt is just 25. He isn’t expensive. He does enough on special teams to continue in a reduced role. But he hasn’t grown much since being drafted and he hasn’t won over any coach or proven he can play fullback at the NFL level.
That is a bad mixture for a rough, not terribly athletic player. I think Schmitt has the will and fight to stick in the NFL, but where and doing what?.”
May 16th, 2012 at 6:08 am
Thanks Bob! May the best FB win!
May 16th, 2012 at 6:08 am
from sfgate….
Here is the group interview with Carson Palmer after the organized team workout on Tuesday:
Q: What stood out to you today?
A: It’s just the second OTA but just a really good chance for us to
come out and work on all the little things we’ve been working on in
the meetings and the playbooks. Just a chance to really get on the
field and run around and make some plays. The good thing is there
weren’t a lot of false starts or silly penalties and that’s something
that Coach came in from the first day and really harped on was we’re
not going to beat ourselves, we’re not going to give up the yardage
we’ve given up in the past. It’s good to see that we’re changing up
snap counts and doing different looks and formations. Penalty-free day
and that’s always good. But a lot of football to go, a lot of OTAs
left and a lot of work today.
Q: You joined the team in the middle of the year last year. How
important is it to you to get this full offseason and training camp?
A: It’s great. It’s great. Just getting a chance to know the playbook,
one, and get really comfortable wit the playbook in a practice
environment, in a non-live environment. But also getting used to the
personnel, the new personnel, the personnel that’s been here for a
while and getting used to guys running different routes and guys’ body
language, knowing certain routes guys like and where they like to
catch the ball on certain routes. It’s been great to train and get the
offseason training in, but also get to get out on the field and run
around and put the offense to work.
Q: What’s it like to have McFadden out there?
A: Awesome. He caught a screen today and did something that probably
not many players in the league can do. You get kind of, you can’t
watch him at my position. You’ve got to go through your progression,
you’ve got to go through your footwork, your hand placement, and then
do the bootlegs and not turn around to see what he does. That’s the
hardest thing for me right now is you want to watch him cause he’s so
electrifying and he can do so many different things. But I have a job
on bootlegs and things like that and I have to make sure I get him the
ball and then boot, but getting him on the field is just something the
defense has to key on and really focus on and it’s been great to work
with.
Q: How different is bootlegs and all that stuff for you to do? How
different is this from what you’ve run in the past and how are you
adjusting?
A: I haven’t done a lot, didn’t do much of it last year and a couple
years before that, but have done a ton of it in my career early on and
in college, did a ton of different nakeds and keepers and boots and
stuff like that. It really suits me well, it suits our personnel well
with some of the guys we have on the outside. They’re not stopping and
starting. They’re just putting their foot in the ground and going in a
certain direction and using their speed, and we’re exploiting their
speed with some of that stuff. It’s going to be really exciting and
when you’ve got McFadden back there and you’ve got to worry about him
actually getting the ball in the running game and all of a sudden you
realize it’s a pass after a play action, it puts a lot of stress on
the defense.
Q: Speaking of college, Matt Leinart. No getting away from him huh?
A: Yeah, yeah. Just got here last week. It’s been great to have him.
He’s been in this offense I think going on three years now so he knows
it inside and out, he’s been with Coach Knapp before and he’s been
great for Terrelle Pryor and I to kind of ask questions here and there
and ask him how he reads things. It’s one thing for a coach to tell
you something and a coach to coach you up on something but when
there’s a guy that has done the reps before and execute a play a
certain way, being a player it hits you a little bit different when
you get coached up from another player.
Q: What did you like that you saw from Criner today?
A: Made a couple great catches. And I think he proved that if you give
him a chance he’ll go up and get it. So he’s an exciting young guy,
Streater’s another exciting young guy. You don’t get a ton of draft
picks but there’s a lot of rookies here that are trying to figure
things out and when you stick out like that being a young guy and
you’re kind of the guy everybody’s talking about who made the most
plays, it gets guys excited, it makes other guys at the same position
realize there’s going to be a lot of competition there, so the thing
he has to do is continue that carry that through the rest of this
OTAs.
Q: Speaking of that competition, Bush is gone and you’re looking at
McFadden and who else can step up in that role. What are you seeing so
far?
A: It’s going to be a battle. That one’s going to go well into
training camp. You got Taiwan, who has shown tons of explosiveness and
done a lot of great things, Mike Goodson’s been making plays. There’s
a lot of guys that want to be McFadden’s backup, there’s a lot of guys
that are fighting for that job so that’s going to be an important
thing for us once we get into the third, fourth preseason game and
figure out who’s going to be in the roster and who’s going to be the
backup.
Q: Carson you spent a lot of time in Cincinnati and been here less
than a year. How’s your comfort level here in Oakland?
A: Very comfortable. Just getting comfortable with the playbook is one
thing but as far as being an Oakland resident, very comfortable, very
happy. It’s been great.
Q: How’s Terrelle developed with having a full offsesason?
A: He was in a tough spot last year. He kind of got robbed of an
offseason. That’s really when young guys develop is this time of year
and without all the OTAs and mini-camps and training camps, this is
really his rookie year. And he can’t look at it that way and he and I
have talked about that, but he just wants to get better every day and
he wants to improve every little thing he can. He’s got the perfect
mindset to be a young guy that’s learning a new offense. He
understands that there is a lot of room for improvement, and he’s
willing and wants to hear any criticism he can because he just wants
to get better every day. It’s fun to be around a young guy like that
that’s champing at the bit to get in there and get reps and wants to
steal your reps and wants to get in there and compete, but it’s been
great to be around.
Q: What kind of weapon do you think you’ll have in Denarius Moore?
A: I think Denarius is just going to build on last year and that’s
what he needs to do. He made spectacular plays, he made tough plays,
he made easy plays, plays in the return game, plays in the running
game on blocking but also in reverses. He kind of did a little bit of
everything. I think this year he can kind of really put it all
together and kind of be a complete player. He’s so explosive and can
do so many things down the field, but for him to take that next step
he needs to get more balls that aren’t deep balls or big posts down
the field for touchdowns. He needs to catch slants and curls and digs
and things like that. And the way things are lined up he’s the guy.
He’s our X receiver and I’m excited for him. I know he’s excited about
this year and he’s got a lot to prove.
May 16th, 2012 at 6:12 am
Schmitt = Guy willing to run through a brick wall to make the team and start.
Reece = “WHAAAAH! THEY’RE NOT PAYING ME ENOUGH!”
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LOL @ Duck!
I love it, and agree
May 16th, 2012 at 6:13 am
If they were both in camp right now, then I would agree with you. Reece > Schmitt. But Schmitt’s here, and Reece isn’t, and Reggie Mac doesn’t give a DAMN what Al thought of Reece or any promises he may have made to open the team’s pocketbook.
Reece needs to sign his ERFA tender and get his entitled @ss in here immediately.
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keeping score of this debate, so far
Duck 2
Mark 0
May 16th, 2012 at 6:16 am
Schmitt is a camp body
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@Mark
“He appeared in 61 games during his first four NFL seasons.
Schmitt, 6-feet-2 and 245 pounds, is a punishing blocker, especially in the run game.” – Steve Corkran
you might be wrong!!
May 16th, 2012 at 6:17 am
The Seattle stuff was after his first 2 seasons, their Coaching Staff apaprently agreed with the blog guys because they did not brought him back for 2010.
In 2010 he had his best year, Philly’s # 1 FB Leonard Weaver was lot in week 1 and they picked up Schmitt, but the Eagles don’t use the FB much.
So in fairness to Schmitt, he was denied a chance in Seattle or was beaten by an older Justin Griffith and in Philliy they didn’t have much use for him.
Maybe he caught a break here because we will use a FB most of the time, it’s his chance to show he can play.
But remember the role of a Fullback in the ZBS is different than in other schemes, it’s not just hammering heads with LB’s, you need to read the blocking like the Half Back does and then clear the way, athleticism and smarts are the key elements.
May 16th, 2012 at 6:19 am
I don’t see the point in bashing Marcel Reece. It’s inevitable that he signs his tender. You may not like his attitude now, but once he signs he’s going to be the same matchup nightmare he’s always been and will be a big part of this offense.
Why Reece is refusing to sign makes no sense to me other than a few more vacation days. But it won’t matter once the season starts.
May 16th, 2012 at 6:20 am
IF U COULD SOMEHOW COMBINE THE SCHMITT MENTALITY WITH REECE’S TALENT…ALL-PRO
May 16th, 2012 at 6:21 am
Pacers & 76ers evened the series at 1-1.
Miami & Boston still the favorites imo
will the Lakers do the same tonight??
May 16th, 2012 at 6:21 am
That is true, Dirt Lot!
May 16th, 2012 at 6:21 am
@Dirt Lot
you don’t know Schmitt!!
May 16th, 2012 at 6:22 am
Philly doesn’t really use their FB’s anyway. It’s doubtful that Scmitt or Griffith was a big deal to them.
Schmitt is 27 yo now, and two years have passed since that scouting report/blog. It takes some guys years to learn how to be an effective blocker.
May 16th, 2012 at 6:22 am
I think the Lakers will come out with a better fight than on Monday night! I believe that the Thunder are the best in the NBA right now, but anything can happen!
May 16th, 2012 at 6:23 am
And LeBron was LeBron last night….missing FTs! But Wade missing a layup?
May 16th, 2012 at 6:24 am
Whether or not Schmitt sticks or not, you can’t help but like to see Reggie bring in competition at all the positions. Everyone is trying out for their jobs. Competition makes everything better.
May 16th, 2012 at 6:25 am
AND I’M UGLY TO..
May 16th, 2012 at 6:31 am
Training camp Fullback crew:
Owen Schmitt
Manasa Tonga
Treshawn Robinson
Marcel Reece
Reece is a lock once he finally signs his tender. I think Schmitt pushes Tonga and Robinson off the roster. I hear he’s a tough guy, and we’ve needed someone like that especially now that we are going back to the WCO offense with zone blocking.
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co-signed, G123
May 16th, 2012 at 6:37 am
@GG
Thanks for those 2 articles.
May 16th, 2012 at 6:38 am
FB Treshawn Robinson played LB for 4 years in college, right?
May 16th, 2012 at 6:41 am
WHAT’S THE OVER/UNDER ON GAMES PLAY’D BY MCFADDEN IN 2012 ? 9-1/2 ?
May 16th, 2012 at 6:43 am
He needs work pass blocking and pass receiving
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@Marley
I think Schmitt trumps Reece in the blocking department
not surprised Reece is a better receiver, didn’t he play WR for the Washington Huskies??
he was an all-world WR in high school, too
maybe the traditional FB beastly run blocker is being phased out?
May 16th, 2012 at 6:44 am
At least we have one of the best ZBS Fullbacks to play the game in Justin Griffith as Quality Control Coach, he’s not RB’s Coach but he was out there on the field during minicamps giving pointers so he should be very helpful in turning Reece or Schmitt into good ZBS blockers.
“In Knapp’s offense, the fullback must think like a tailback just to block the right defensive player. Instead of being assigned a specific player to block, the fullback must read the defense and react on the fly. It’s not an easy task.
“It’s really important with our outside zone run game, where he is the lead guy,” Knapp said of the fullback.
“We teach our fullbacks to read it like the halfback. There are certain indicators based on the run call that’s being made. He has to see it the same way we want the halfback to see it, so he’ll lead that halfback to the right hole. He is kind of that floating guy, where if the defense overflows, he can cut back and clean up the backside.
“If they try to stunt inside, he makes that read and bounces it out and the running back follows him. So there’s a lot of burden on him in identifying what’s the correct path in the run game.”
May 16th, 2012 at 6:46 am
Schmitt has a few screws loose. Busted up his forehead with his own helmet. Broke a dozen or so facemasks in college too. Nice to see that kind of crazy streak in a FB. Reminds me a little of Jon Ritchie and his blood dripping off his nose. We could use that kind of psycho blowing up LB’s.
May 16th, 2012 at 6:48 am
I see Carson Palmer mentioned UDFA WR Rod Streater and Dennis Allen has praised him as well as a “stand out”. I wonder why Cork doesn’t talk about him?
May 16th, 2012 at 6:49 am
http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders/ci_20630369/raiders-backup-quarterback-terrelle-pryor-looks-sharp-practice
Pryor = stud
May 16th, 2012 at 6:49 am
Rockstar.
I think Schmitt trumps Reece in the blocking department.
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Based on what?.
“The former Seahawks and Eagles lead blocker was rated as one of the league’s least effective fullbacks in 2011 by Pro Football Focus.”
I don’t have the info on Reece but we were one of the top rushing teams last year, I’m guessing Reece had something to with it.
Anyway, the role of the FB will change now that Knapp is here, see post # 39 and the following Justin Griffith quote:
“I’m not a throwback guy at all,” Griffith says. “I’ve been fortunate and blessed to be a part of this offense most of my career. It doesn’t beat you up. There aren’t a lot of isolations, power blocking and all that kind of stuff. We’re a zone-scheming team. And I get to catch the ball, too.”
May 16th, 2012 at 6:49 am
#35…
Your welcome HairyBush.
May 16th, 2012 at 6:52 am
But Knapp did coach Schmitt before, even if Griffith beat him out of the starting job back then, Knapp must have seen something he liked, otherwise he would have probably told Reggie and DA that Schmitt could not play here.
May 16th, 2012 at 6:52 am
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 6:41 am
WHAT’S THE OVER/UNDER ON GAMES PLAY’D BY MCFADDEN IN 2012 ? 9-1/2 ?
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over (I think 12 games)
May 16th, 2012 at 6:52 am
guest123 Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 6:48 am
I see Carson Palmer mentioned UDFA WR Rod Streater and Dennis Allen has praised him as well as a “stand out”. I wonder why Cork doesn’t talk about him?
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Remember, Steve’s hit-rate with predictions and assessments is pretty wayward :p
May 16th, 2012 at 6:54 am
Coach Dennis Allen mentioned two Raiders rookies who have stood out so far at mini-camp: Temple receiver Rod Streater and Nevada linebacker Kaelin Burnett — “he can put his hand on ground and rush on third downs”
May 16th, 2012 at 6:55 am
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 6:41 am
WHAT’S THE OVER/UNDER ON GAMES PLAY’D BY MCFADDEN IN 2012 ? 9-1/2 ?
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I’ll say neither under nor over. But exactly 9 1/2 games, halfway thru that 10th game he’ll come off with some foot injury that doesn’t see him return….until the playoffs
May 16th, 2012 at 6:55 am
Remember, Steve’s hit-rate with predictions and assessments is pretty wayward :p
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I still remember how confident Steve was about us blowing SD out last game of the season. Steve- “they have nothing to play for”
We all know how that worked out.
May 16th, 2012 at 6:55 am
I see Carson Palmer mentioned UDFA WR Rod Streater and Dennis Allen has praised him as well as a “stand out”. I wonder why Cork doesn’t talk about him?
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@G123
coaches & teammates give praise where it’s due.
reporters always aim for the biggest stories, which appeared to be Criner, Curry & Pryor imo
nobody is itching to write a full article on some kid that MIGHT make the practice squad
May 16th, 2012 at 6:59 am
#50…Steve wont live that one down anytime soon. Basically, Hue Jackson rode Steve’s prediction into the team meetings and didn’t prepare. Probably another reason why Steve hates Hue lol.
Some other Steve moments….didnt think much of DHB last season tho DHB was the most prolific and consistently healthy receiver. For a long while too he really disliked Pryor too. Always putting him down abruptly whenever anyone asked about him in the chats.
There’s probably more Steve moments I can’t think of right now.
May 16th, 2012 at 6:59 am
To be fair, the media doesn’t get to see everything the players and coaches see. But I agree, they are shooting for the bigger stories.
I still wanna know about even the practice squad hopefulls because things can change in a hurry.
May 16th, 2012 at 7:00 am
By the way, not much “clean house” on the scouting deparment after all, 8 of the 14 people listed are returning from the previous staff.
Teddy Atlas, scouting coordinator—holdover.
Calvin Branch, college scout—holdover.
Joey Clinkscales, director – player personnel—new
Zack Crockett, college scout—holdover.
Tom Delaney, director – football admin.—holdover.
Shaun Herock, director – college scouting—-new.
Von Hutchins, pro scout—new.
Brad Kaplan, college scout—holdover.
Larry Marmie, pro scout—new.
Mickey Marvin, college scout—holdover.
David McCloughan, college scout—holdover.
Raleigh McKenzie, college scout—new.
Trey Scott, college scout—new.
Dane Vandernat, pro scout—holdover.
But the men in charge certainly have changed, obviously Reggie is the man and 2nd in command would appear to be Clinkscales, followed by Herock.
May 16th, 2012 at 7:01 am
A future Steve moment: Leinart > Pryor and it’s Leinart’s job to lose.
May 16th, 2012 at 7:03 am
#50…Steve wont live that one down anytime soon. Basically, Hue Jackson rode Steve’s prediction into the team meetings and didn’t prepare. Probably another reason why Steve hates Hue lol.
Some other Steve moments….didnt think much of DHB last season tho DHB was the most prolific and consistently healthy receiver. For a long while too he really disliked Pryor too. Always putting him down abruptly whenever anyone asked about him in the chats.
There’s probably more Steve moments I can’t think of right now.
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Yeah that is probaly why he hates Hue lol
There are definetley a few more Steve “predictions” that I’m sure he would rather forget.
May 16th, 2012 at 7:04 am
Reggie is the man and 2nd in command would appear to be Clinkscales, followed by Herock.
^^^^^^^^
I think Clinksdales is more like the executive VP, a stand in for Reggie, while the true day-to-day operations manager is Herock. At least that’s what it looks like or maybe just hoping.
May 16th, 2012 at 7:05 am
#55…
lol, OTAs/camp is gonna be a great database of ’steve moments’
May 16th, 2012 at 7:05 am
I still remember how confident Steve was about us blowing SD out last game of the season. Steve- “they have nothing to play for”
We all know how that worked out.
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@HB
I was pretty confident about that too.
Palmer, DHB, Moore, Murphy, Boss, Reece & Janikowski were all studs in WK17
Mike Bush ran 19 times for 66 yards (3.4 ypc) and Ford effed us by running a crappy route, resulting in a Palmer interception
Giordano got an INT. otherwise defense forced ZERO punts and got ZERO sacks on Rivers. Once again, McClain & Branch racked up a bunch of tackles … but no impact plays
May 16th, 2012 at 7:05 am
guest123 Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 7:04 am
Reggie is the man and 2nd in command would appear to be Clinkscales, followed by Herock.
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I think Clinksdales is more like the executive VP, a stand in for Reggie, while the true day-to-day operations manager is Herock. At least that’s what it looks like or maybe just hoping.
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AKA you don’t want another Gholston/Sanchez moment lol
May 16th, 2012 at 7:08 am
#56
Before each week’s games, Steve should post his weekly tips, so we can all bet heavy on all the teams he tipped to lose and rake in the money.
May 16th, 2012 at 7:09 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 7:05 am
I still remember how confident Steve was about us blowing SD out last game of the season. Steve- “they have nothing to play for”
We all know how that worked out.
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@HB
I was pretty confident about that too.
Palmer, DHB, Moore, Murphy, Boss, Reece & Janikowski were all studs in WK17
Mike Bush ran 19 times for 66 yards (3.4 ypc) and Ford effed us by running a crappy route, resulting in a Palmer interception
Giordano got an INT. otherwise defense forced ZERO punts and got ZERO sacks on Rivers. Once again, McClain & Branch racked up a bunch of tackles … but no impact plays
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I thought we had a good shot to win. My point is Steve made the statements on SEVERAL occasions to say it was going to be a blowout. My question to Steve would be…Have you watched many Raider games in the last decade? How many games are we in that are blowouts? (when we are the winner that is lol)
May 16th, 2012 at 7:12 am
The 2 young WRs are going to help immensely.
Chalk it up to injuries, short season, or whatever……
All I know is we only had 2 WRs we could count on for most of the season. DHB and D Moore.
May 16th, 2012 at 7:12 am
Basically, Hue Jackson rode Steve’s prediction into the team meetings and didn’t prepare
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huh?
Steve is a writer. if a Head Coach takes something from a journalist as a reason or whether or not to prepare for a ballgame, that falls on the doofus HC!
Steve calls it like he sees it. If he called DHB the 4th WR in camp last year, it’s probably because 3 other guys looked better than him at the time. Jerry Mac always called Chaz the unquestionned #1 WR in camp, so I’m guessing Chaz, Jacoby & Denarius played better in OTA’s & camp , but DHB produced during the regular season (when it matters). so what?
Jerry Mac also loved him some Nick Miller, if I recall. Said Tommy Kelly has never played in a 3-4 defense. constantly posts links for us to read from his rival newspaper journalists. There is a reason he got demoted from blog pimp. I don’t miss him.
Keep up the good work, Steve!
May 16th, 2012 at 7:13 am
#62
We lost so many games the last few years that were winnable, 7 pts or less. 8-8 both last two seasons, would’ve made the playoffs. Even that year we went 5-11 with Fargas as RB, we lost like 5-6 games by 7 or less by memory.
Only blowout wins we’ve had recently was that run of a few games in 2010 with Cable HC Hue OC. But they dried up after that.
Our biggest win last year I think was the Jets win with Dmac running wild. Won by only 10-14.
May 16th, 2012 at 7:14 am
#64, i was being facetious
May 16th, 2012 at 7:16 am
guest123 Says:
I think Clinksdales is more like the executive VP, a stand in for Reggie, while the true day-to-day operations manager is Herock. At least that’s what it looks like or maybe just hoping.
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Well,there are 3 Directors listed:
Clinkscales is Director of Football Operations, seems like he oversees everything.
Herock is Director of College Scouting, this guy seems limited to the scouting side.
Tom Delaney is Director of Football Administration, I guess this position is more involved with contracts since DA said previously he was working with Delaney on the nuances of the new CBA.
May 16th, 2012 at 7:17 am
Raider O
I had forgotten all about being soccer ambassador for the blog : )
May 16th, 2012 at 7:19 am
I thought we had a good shot to win. My point is Steve made the statements on SEVERAL occasions to say it was going to be a blowout. My question to Steve would be…Have you watched many Raider games in the last decade? How many games are we in that are blowouts? (when we are the winner that is lol)
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@HB
Steve was offered his readers hope. he was being optimistic. would you rather he have said “expect the Raiders to crumble, as always” or “prepare for another 8-8 year watching the playoffs from the couch” ??
then if the Raiders win that game he looks like a total hater!! Raiders were 3-0 against the Chargers before the Week 17 loss. That was with a couple of knucklehead DC’s like Marshall & Bresnahan. It was a game we should have won, but lost. Blame Hue Jackson for that – not Steve Corkran
May 16th, 2012 at 7:20 am
GG Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 7:13 am
#62
We lost so many games the last few years that were winnable, 7 pts or less. 8-8 both last two seasons, would’ve made the playoffs. Even that year we went 5-11 with Fargas as RB, we lost like 5-6 games by 7 or less by memory.
Only blowout wins we’ve had recently was that run of a few games in 2010 with Cable HC Hue OC. But they dried up after that.
Our biggest win last year I think was the Jets win with Dmac running wild. Won by only 10-14.
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Yup, It was Denver then Seattle that we beat pretty good in 2010. The only game I can remember us having a pretty good handle on before that was the Miami game when Kiffin was the coach. I believe Lamont Jordan and fargas played pretty well. It’s been slim picking when we talk about Raider blowouts.
May 16th, 2012 at 7:20 am
I had forgotten all about being soccer ambassador for the blog
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go Liverpool!
May 16th, 2012 at 7:21 am
Ford fell down on that one, didn’t he? I don’t think it would have mattered. I think the game changer would have been if the KO resulted in a safety instead of a half yard line that the next play was ran for 40 yards!
May 16th, 2012 at 7:23 am
I like to see some of the moves Reggie is making and compare to what they did in GB.
Maybe Owen Schmitt is Reggie’s John Kuhn; the big hammerhead white guy he ikes to have.
May 16th, 2012 at 7:24 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 7:19 am
I thought we had a good shot to win. My point is Steve made the statements on SEVERAL occasions to say it was going to be a blowout. My question to Steve would be…Have you watched many Raider games in the last decade? How many games are we in that are blowouts? (when we are the winner that is lol)
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@HB
Steve was offered his readers hope. he was being optimistic. would you rather he have said “expect the Raiders to crumble, as always” or “prepare for another 8-8 year watching the playoffs from the couch” ??
then if the Raiders win that game he looks like a total hater!! Raiders were 3-0 against the Chargers before the Week 17 loss. That was with a couple of knucklehead DC’s like Marshall & Bresnahan. It was a game we should have won, but lost. Blame Hue Jackson for that – not Steve Corkran
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It doesn’t make you a hater if you don’t predict a blowout. He could have just said I can see the Raiders winning.
May 16th, 2012 at 7:26 am
#70, yeah remember that Miami game now, Culpepper’s revenge. Had his moment, his big game, then did his head-gasket.
May 16th, 2012 at 7:26 am
It’s a new year, and it was a very different Terrelle Pryor we saw Tuesday at the Raiders’ first public organized team activities — and afterward.
First, Pryor looked pretty sharp during the practice and seemed very comfortable in quarterback drills alongside Carson Palmer and Matt Leinart . . . particularly Palmer.
Then Pryor stepped out for the media availability period and talked calmly, confidently, clearly and with more detail than he ever has during his brief Raiders career.
He acknowledged he was sort of a ghost as a rookie last year — showing up late as a supplemental draft pick, then having to serve his NFL-mandated five-game suspension, then having to play catch up as he dealt with the cacophony of the Raiders’ 2011 late-season.
Some highlights . . .
Pryor clearly embraces the presence of Palmer as a mentor and of quarterbacks coach John DeFilippo as a hands-on instructor.
Palmer is a constant and helpful resource, Pryor said, and DeFilippo has worked on his footwork and body position — with noticeable results.
Yep, last year the Raiders didn’t have a quarterback coach.
“I mean, I never heard of that before,” Pryor said with a smile. “I didn’t know what I was getting into coming in here. It’s definitely great that Mr. McKenzie got a quarterback coach because I’m learning a lot.”
May 16th, 2012 at 7:27 am
Liverpool?
What is that? A danish dish?
Save me some room on the TP bandwagon. I am about to jump on.
May 16th, 2012 at 7:29 am
I’m not comparing Aaron Rodgers to Carson Palmer..Rodgers has proved he’s at a higher level RIGHT NOW for sure but looking at what GB has done over the yrs. i think Reggie realizes you can build a team with quality ‘no names’ etc. who are “football players” but he knows you gotta have those big timers in the key positions..such as QB and on the d line.
GB doesn’t win the SB w/o Reggie White..and they paid him big $$$. Also the QB position..most important in sports. Hence Favre and Rodgers…and now…Palmer, who he hopes can be that QB stud until he’s not.
May 16th, 2012 at 7:29 am
I had forgotten all about being soccer ambassador for the blog : )
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Not very ambassador-ish
May 16th, 2012 at 7:30 am
I’m glad that someone is there to teach Pryor! He will be a great pick, the last pick of the late Al Davis!
May 16th, 2012 at 7:31 am
It doesn’t make you a hater if you don’t predict a blowout. He could have just said I can see the Raiders winning.
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@HB
no offense – don’t take this personal. It’s not directed at only you, but Steve Corkran critics in general ..
I don’t think it matters. I think a lot of you Steve haters are just grasping at straws here. Arguing about him saying win versus blowout in a live chat?
that doesn’t make somebody a lowsy journalist, man. how many writers even have a blog and/or live chat?
Jerry started this beast. Steve made it better
be thankful for what you have, instead of complaining about what you don’t have!!
May 16th, 2012 at 7:31 am
…I meant big timers on D in general..not necessarily Dline but Reggie knows he needs to put pressure on the opposing QB. Hence Clay Mathews.
I’d love to see Seymour step up this yr. as would all of us i’m sure.
May 16th, 2012 at 7:32 am
I have been growing trees fulltime for a year which means I have been smoking dank 24/7 for almost year now which means I forgot about the SA
May 16th, 2012 at 7:32 am
Bye bye tonga.. You looked like a fb but played like a girl..
May 16th, 2012 at 7:34 am
I’ve always been a Pryor fan since Ohio days, and that he also turned out to be Al’s last pick makes him even more of a potential fan favorite hopeful perennial pro-bowler. It’s also an on-going pleasure reading all these quotes from Pryor and his teammates and coaches that show how dedicated he is etc.
Loved that quote he made a week or so ago where he expressly mentioned that he is Al’s last pick and he wants to be great also because of that, to honor Al and the Raiders etc.
May 16th, 2012 at 7:35 am
RaiderRockstar….we just teasing Steve, not seriously hating on him.
May 16th, 2012 at 7:35 am
I forgot we had no qb coach last yr.. Fking retarded..smh
May 16th, 2012 at 7:36 am
Plunketthead = my hero !!!
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I have been growing trees fulltime for a year which means I have been smoking dank 24/7 for almost year now which means I forgot about the SA
May 16th, 2012 at 7:38 am
I was always under the impression that Al Saunders was supposed to be working with the QB’s , since he wasn’t the play caller and Hue Jackson had his plate full ???
Doesn’t sound like that was happening. No wonder Pryor was attached to Palmer’s hip last year (and this offseason)
May 16th, 2012 at 7:39 am
The coaching upgrades should be good for 4 wins, If DMAC & Palmer stay healthy we can easily win the division.
May 16th, 2012 at 7:39 am
Reece av 6.6 yds a carry last yr.. Schmitt could give us a nice goaline tandem.
May 16th, 2012 at 7:41 am
Hydro or outdoor. I grew several outdoors last season..
May 16th, 2012 at 7:42 am
I’ve been growing tree’s/gardens myself.
Two Aristcrat Pear tree’s, and a bad-azz Rose Garden.
May 16th, 2012 at 7:42 am
saw the Schmitt vs Kuhn comparison. You could hear the crowd all yell “COOOON” when he ran it in or got a swing pass on the goalline.
It’d be funny if Schmitt got the same kind of love from raider nation.
May 16th, 2012 at 7:43 am
Reece should get more carries, IMO.
May 16th, 2012 at 7:44 am
I got my eye’s on these Betty-Boop hybrids this dude grows.
Pretty expensive though.
May 16th, 2012 at 7:45 am
More TP articles…
http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2012/5/15/3022988/oakland-raiders-terrelle-pryor-is-not-planning-to-be-the-backup
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Second-year quarterback Terrelle Pryor is in his first OTA’s for the Raiders. He is out to prove not only that he can play quarterback in the NFL but that he deserves playing time for the Raiders. This is a tough, and could be futile, task for the young quarterback. Carson Palmer is the unquestioned starter and at this point, Pryor is behind Matt Leinart in the depth chart.
Pryor is not letting that dampen his belief that his playing time is directly attributed to how hard to works. He even deflected any discussion about his recent interview with Sports Illustrated, saying “I’m not going to talk about that. That’s in the past.”
Putting that stuff in the past is a wise move for Pryor. His focus should be on what is happening now and how it affects his future. In the realm of the present and future, Pryor’s statement is simply “I’m competing to play.”
Star-divide
Most will say that his only role on this team would involve his legs but he insists he is not just a specialty package type quarterback and should be thought of with the same passing skills as Carson Palmer and Matt Leinart… and more.
“I got a big arm too,” said an adamant Pryor. “A big arm. I just happen to be able to run and that just adds onto my arsenal. If you go throughout the reads and do the right progression and throw the ball to the right spot where you want it to be, and if nothing’s there and I take off, then that’s a plus.”
But even with the vast skill set Pryor claims to have, he still has an uphill battle.
“Carson is the starter and he’s going to be the starter. But I don’t put myself as I’m going to be back-up. I mean, I don’t sit around saying, ‘I want to be a back-up, that’s what I want to be.’ That’s not how I operate. That’s not how I want to be. I’m going to work to play. And Carson’s always played well and always will. Whenever the opportunity comes for me to play, I’ll play. But I’m not planning to be a back-up. Get that correct.”
That certainly is the right attitude when it comes to playing. Too many times in the NFL the starter goes down and the backup isn’t ready. It happened last season with Kyle Boller and the result was a disaster. Even with Leinart as the projected number two quarterback and is running with the second team, if Pryor can instill some confidence in his coaches that he gives the team a better chance to win, he will be given the chance to prove it.
“You need a quarterback to know what’s going on and be able to lead the team,” said Pryor. “I’m not discouraged at all that Matt [Leinart] is here. Matt’s a great guy and I’m going to go about my business getting better and working hard and no one out-working me. That’s how I live and that’s how I do things every day, and it won’t change.”
Pryor got a boost in confidence earlier this week when the team released Rhett Bomar. Head coach Dennis Allen said Tuesday that Bomar was released because he was just not going to see the reps with the Raiders that he had hoped.
So while the team may feel more comfortable with Leinart as the number two, they clearly have laid it out that Pryor is going to be a member of this team. Pryor’s outlook seems to improve almost daily and is a far cry from what it was last season. It has been a long hard road for him of which he said has left him “humbled” and now in a far better place.
“Big big huge improvement,” said Pryor of the results of his offseason work. “Really just footwork and having a chance to learn the offense. I didn’t know anything last year, nothing at all. I knew some of the stuff going into games and stuff like that but starting from Day 1 here right now when the new coaches came in. On the other hand I came in last year at the end of camp and everything was already put in. I couldn’t ask the coach, the offensive coordinator. We didn’t even have a quarterbacks coach so I couldn’t even learn anything from that standpoint.
“I [have] spent a lot of time with Coach DiFilipio and I cleaned up the footwork, taking my feet in my progression and nothing but good results.
“Big time in terms of footwork, confidence, believing in myself. All of that stuff is miles ahead with more great things to come.”
Though Pryor had just one unofficial snap in the NFL last season, he is technically a second-year player. And according to him, that is not just a technicality. He doesn’t feel like a rookie.
“What I can say about last year is I learned the speed of the corners, I learned what the NFL is, in terms of, you have to get back and get rid of the ball. The rush is between the D-linemen getting to you, nothing else… So I learned the speed of the D-linemen, you’ve got to get the ball out fast because of them. You’ve got to throw at different angles.
“I’d say this is my second year. Because I learned an awful lot by taking snaps against the first team in… the practice-role doing the scout team. I learned a lot in terms of physical stuff like that.”
As far as Pryor’s work in practice, he is much improved from what limited looks we had of him last season, but he has a long way to go.
The “big arm” he touts is fine but it is rarely ever just about how far a quarterback can throw it. It is about touch and accuracy which are both areas he still has much room to improve. His passes still flutter some and it is easy to see that he doesn’t trust his short passes. They usually either have nothing behind them or they are ankle biters.
His footwork and stance have improved greatly and it has shown in his passes. While it used to be a case of the rare tight spiral or the rare on-target pass, they are more 50-50 now. And there was one particular long pass that led Juron Criner perfectly for a would-be touchdown.
For now, however, he has impressed his offensive coordinator and head coach enough with his work ethic and improvement to give him sole possession of the number three job with an opportunity to earn more.
That is “competing to play” and that is all he can ask for at this point.
May 16th, 2012 at 7:47 am
Indoor soil. I am getting burned out. I tried to go back to work at the Kwik e Mart but I would wake/bake and space work completly so I got fired again.
May 16th, 2012 at 7:48 am
Nice to see that even though Reggie hired his brother, he is only a scout, not the head of the scouting department or anything like that.
Nepotism light.
May 16th, 2012 at 7:51 am
A real blocking FB might make it easier for us to convert on a 3rd and long 2. Of the backs likely to make the team (McFadden, Jones and Goodson) McFadden should get all of the carries inside the red zone and in short yardage situations. He is our most powerful back, and has been for years despite the coaching staff giving the rock to Twinkle Toes Bush simply because he was fat the past few seasons.
May 16th, 2012 at 7:53 am
Pictures from OTAs are up…
http://www.raiders.com/media-vault/photo-gallery/Organized-Team-Activities/e04d01df-0a05-4ba0-9ed9-ad862432154a#5c9add84-a0f9-4d36-acaa-ab5d20b98b71
May 16th, 2012 at 7:54 am
Lol
May 16th, 2012 at 7:55 am
Bush has that same move Lamont Jordon used so ineffectivly at the end of his carrer.
Run up to the line, run in place untill tackled
May 16th, 2012 at 7:57 am
100. I was thinking reece might take on some goaline carrys. He runs a good ypc and he has pretty good ballsecurity
May 16th, 2012 at 7:57 am
At least Fargas hit that hole like he meant to hurt someone
May 16th, 2012 at 7:59 am
Happy to hear tp has improved his feet quite a bit.. I saw that as his biggest flaw in college.
May 16th, 2012 at 8:00 am
105.Plunketthead Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 7:57 am
At least Fargas hit that hole like he meant to hurt someone
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He was scrappy….but then again he always seemed to bounce off an invisible wall at the goal line. The Elephant Man scored more than Justin Fargas.
May 16th, 2012 at 8:01 am
We need that oline to move forward one yard in order to get that third and 2 or goal line stands.
Dmac will take it from there.
I sure hope he stays healthy. The lamestream media will be talking up Manny & mules and we want to be kicking donkey butt.
I can picture dmac/cp/dhd parading the VL
best year ever!!
May 16th, 2012 at 8:02 am
If Moore is our X receiver, then who is our Z receiver? DHB?
Good day nation.
May 16th, 2012 at 8:05 am
I’d like to see what Criner can do at the Z opposite Moore.
May 16th, 2012 at 8:06 am
109. Yes, but it might be criner by the end of the yr..
May 16th, 2012 at 8:08 am
Did they ever report if tj or dvd bulked up?
May 16th, 2012 at 8:09 am
I can’t wait to see TP, Criner, Chekwa/ DVD, and Burris play in the preseason.
I think Criner will be a starter by the end of the year.
May 16th, 2012 at 8:12 am
I think DVD added 10 pounds, but I can’t remember where I read that.
May 16th, 2012 at 8:13 am
I have high hopes for bergs too.. If he gets going early our o-line could be a powerhouse.
May 16th, 2012 at 8:15 am
Burris will be our best defensive player by week 6.
Print that!
May 16th, 2012 at 8:17 am
Better than Seymour, Houston, TK, Shaughnessy, Bryant, McClain, Curry, Branch, and Huff?
May 16th, 2012 at 8:18 am
I can’t wait to see TP, Criner, Chekwa/ DVD, and Burris play in the preseason.
I think Criner will be a starter by the end of the year.
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I’ll say week 2.
May 16th, 2012 at 8:20 am
95.Just Fire Baby Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 7:43 am
Reece should get more carries, IMO.
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I would like him to sign and get it over with and get to camp if that’s what he’s gonna do.
If not…then move on w/o him.
I don’t understand the waiting game with this.
May 16th, 2012 at 8:21 am
Out starting LBs:
OLB: Curry
MLB: McClain
OLB: Burris
Smallest LB is 6′2 246. Bring the pain!
May 16th, 2012 at 8:21 am
117.Raider O Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 8:17 am
Better than Seymour, Houston, TK, Shaughnessy, Bryant, McClain, Curry, Branch, and Huff?
yes yes yes yes yes certainly certainly certainly certainly
May 16th, 2012 at 8:22 am
103.Plunketthead Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 7:55 am
Bush has that same move Lamont Jordon used so ineffectivly at the end of his carrer.
Run up to the line, run in place untill tackled
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Ha. I hate that move. Lol.
May 16th, 2012 at 8:22 am
Fast too! our slowest LB runs a 4.68 40.
All we need is a NT. I’m not sold on Ivey.
May 16th, 2012 at 8:23 am
120.Raider O Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 8:21 am
Out starting LBs:
OLB: Curry
MLB: McClain
OLB: Burris
Smallest LB is 6′2 246. Bring the pain!
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Wheeler will have the confidence of the coaching staff over Curry…..and Burris will be moved to MLB and take out Slowlando, which will save Curry a starting spot.
Curry OLB
Burris MLB
Wheeler OLB
May 16th, 2012 at 8:24 am
Why not Dakota.
Go Aztecs!
May 16th, 2012 at 8:24 am
LOL at an LB that includes McClain that “brings the pain!”
May 16th, 2012 at 8:25 am
O whats the good word my Green Party brother ?
May 16th, 2012 at 8:25 am
Wheeler over McPain?!
I don’t think so. McPain is going to be our MLB.
May 16th, 2012 at 8:27 am
ODB,
Bird is the word! LOL I like family guy.
Long Live ODB!
May 16th, 2012 at 8:27 am
119.DJ Johnny Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 8:20 am
95.Just Fire Baby Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 7:43 am
Reece should get more carries, IMO.
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I would like him to sign and get it over with and get to camp if that’s what he’s gonna do.
If not…then move on w/o him.
I don’t understand the waiting game with this.
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Reece was a pro bowl alternative! He doesn’t want to play for $540k in 2012 and risk getting injured and then have to work at KFC to support his family for the rest of his life! He wants some security! Throw the man a 3 year $6 million dollar deal Reggie!
May 16th, 2012 at 8:27 am
Bird
Bird
Bird
Bird is the word……
May 16th, 2012 at 8:28 am
I think this signing of Schmidt doesnt bode well for Manase Tonga, since he hasn’t been present at OTAs
May 16th, 2012 at 8:29 am
Curry restructured and added more years to his contract. Wheeler got a 1 year deal for the vets min, and McClain is our 1st round pick 2 years ago.
McPain and Curry are starters this season, and Burris will compete with Wheeler.
May 16th, 2012 at 8:30 am
128.Raider O Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 8:25 am
Wheeler over McPain?!
I don’t think so. McPain is going to be our MLB.
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I didn’t say that, I said Burris over Slowlando at MLB! Slowlando can then get some target practice in while the real football players suit up on Sundays!
May 16th, 2012 at 8:30 am
lol lol O
May 16th, 2012 at 8:31 am
133.Raider O Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 8:29 am
Curry restructured and added more years to his contract. Wheeler got a 1 year deal for the vets min, and McClain is our 1st round pick 2 years ago.
McPain and Curry are starters this season, and Burris will compete with Wheeler.
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The era of players getting playing time due to draft position and contract status is over. Allen will put the best players in the game…..Curry and Slowlando are fktards.
May 16th, 2012 at 8:31 am
camp body….
May 16th, 2012 at 8:32 am
130. Thank you, exactly..
May 16th, 2012 at 8:32 am
Reece has no leverage. That’s what happens when you sign a UDFA contract. He signs the tender or loses a year of eligibility and comes back next year for the same $540K. If you’re smart with your money, you can make that go a long way. It sure beats working at KFC.
May 16th, 2012 at 8:33 am
Just like any normal business, if you want to know the future of the co/ org, look at their fin statements and how/ what they spend money on.
Curry and McPain are starters IMO based on their contacts and performance.
May 16th, 2012 at 8:33 am
I hope at the middle of the season, we as fans can finally say…
“We have waited far too long for this moment to arrive…there’s no stopping us!”
May 16th, 2012 at 8:34 am
Reece was a pro bowl alternative! He doesn’t want to play for $540k in 2012 and risk getting injured and then have to work at KFC to support his family for the rest of his life! He wants some security! Throw the man a 3 year $6 million dollar deal Reggie!
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Excellent post. Well said.
May 16th, 2012 at 8:34 am
Tongas a paper tiger.. he’s gonzo
May 16th, 2012 at 8:35 am
Guest,
Would you work for $5/ hour?
May 16th, 2012 at 8:36 am
Sign the tender, play the deal, and if you perform you WILL have the leverage for more money. Reece’s problem is that, no matter how explosive he can be, he isn’t a natural fit at any position. To big for WR, can’t block well enough for TE/FB. I think he is closest to a natural RB2, but I don’t know that he can carry an extended load of 20 times a game.
May 16th, 2012 at 8:38 am
He blocked well enough for dmac to lead the nfl in rushing..
May 16th, 2012 at 8:40 am
Trade He Hate Me McFelldown!
May 16th, 2012 at 8:40 am
Guest,
Would you work for $5/ hour?
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If that was my only lot in life, I guess I would. I’m guess I’m lucky that’s about 5 minutes for me, but I’d love to make $540K a year. I think most of us would.
May 16th, 2012 at 8:41 am
there’s a lot of things that darren sproles cant do either. But he has plenty of value.. Reece is a great young Raider.. give him some yrs reg..
May 16th, 2012 at 8:41 am
BAC choppy today…time to short
May 16th, 2012 at 8:43 am
Dakota….post 130, well said…..Reece outperformed his deal and played for peanuts the last 2 years, he has earned it.
May 16th, 2012 at 8:43 am
Is it really wasted time if your wasted all the time ??
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May 16th, 2012 at 8:44 am
Bcz,
I’m sure D Brees agrees with you. What happened to him when he was tagged in SD?
May 16th, 2012 at 8:44 am
Reece has been explosive in very limited duty. You cant compare that to Sproles. Reece aint Sproles by a country mile.
I like Reece a lot, but to throw a few million dollars at what amounts to a gimmick player is how Al Davis ran the show, not how I want Reg to run the show.
May 16th, 2012 at 8:46 am
Stanford throws to the fb as its 1st option on like 35% of there pass plays.. we could truly have too many weapons on the field with reece out there.. Schmitts just a small guard.
May 16th, 2012 at 8:46 am
Guest,
It’s a business. Are you welling to work for less than Min wage? It’s below market value, and the same can be said for Reeve.
You People can’t understand the business side of football. It’s not about loyalty and honor. It’s about MONEY!
May 16th, 2012 at 8:47 am
I’m sure D Brees agrees with you. What happened to him when he was tagged in SD?
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He got paid 12+ million dollars, tore his shoulder up, went on to NO, got himself a very nice contract and a super bowl ring, and is now lined up to get a deal that is going to average 20 million a year.
If you get hurt on your tender, it sucks, but if you are a performer it wont stop you from getting paid.
Leon Washington gambled on himself in the final year of his deal, we broke his leg (pretty brutally)… he still got a job in seattle making decent coin.
May 16th, 2012 at 8:47 am
You will have a harder time getting paid if you refuse to sign your tender and sit out a year, than if you sign it, perform on it and get hurt.
May 16th, 2012 at 8:49 am
I’m not hating on Reece for not showing up now anyways… he better be there bright eyed and bushy tailed for training camp though.
May 16th, 2012 at 8:50 am
just hope Reece doesnt hurt himself before he signs the tender ..like T. Suggs in Baltimore …
May 16th, 2012 at 8:51 am
Reece has extended drives with amazing catches and tuff runs. He won a game with a great catch.. He was a probowl alternate.. This is not a gimic player..
May 16th, 2012 at 8:51 am
158.bcz24 Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 8:47 am
You will have a harder time getting paid if you refuse to sign your tender and sit out a year, than if you sign it, perform on it and get hurt.
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No, he does not have a lot of leverage. But I can’t fault him for using what little leverage he has to try and get a new deal. Of course when push comes to shove, he is going to sign it and play in 2012 at $540k. It will just be a matter of how much reggie values him long-term.
He may be the best backup RB to McFadden we have on the roster!
May 16th, 2012 at 8:51 am
158.bcz24 Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 8:47 am
You will have a harder time getting paid if you refuse to sign your tender and sit out a year, than if you sign it, perform on it and get hurt.
Exactly!
May 16th, 2012 at 8:51 am
139.guest123 Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 8:32 am
Reece has no leverage. That’s what happens when you sign a UDFA contract. He signs the tender or loses a year of eligibility and comes back next year for the same $540K. If you’re smart with your money, you can make that go a long way. It sure beats working at KFC.
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Linking an african american player to fried chicken?
(btw im just kidding).
May 16th, 2012 at 8:52 am
GOOOOOOO LA KINGS!!!!!
May 16th, 2012 at 8:52 am
159. I agree
May 16th, 2012 at 8:52 am
Reece did make great jumps over defenders to extend drives/yardage!
May 16th, 2012 at 8:54 am
Reece was a Pro Bowl alternate…those are chosen by the coaches if I’m not mistaken, he has earned a fair deal after proving himself, definitely not a minimum salary guy.
May 16th, 2012 at 8:55 am
If Reece doesn’t like his options, then tough. The union that represents him negotiated a CBA wherein players finishing their third year are ERFAs and cannot test the free market.
For a fullback who’s an average blocker (at best) and has yet to gain 900 yards from scrimmage IN HIS ENTIRE CAREER, $540K for one year is fine. He needs to sign it and get in here. After the season’s over, he can walk if he feels so incredibly disrespected.
May 16th, 2012 at 8:57 am
@Raider O:
$540K is still better than $7.51/hr last I checked. And the idea of taking less money than market value is not a novel concept. People take less money/benefits all the time in exchange for better job security.
Reece has a chance here to take the sure money and live to play for another day and another contract.
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It’s a business. Are you welling to work for less than Min wage? It’s below market value, and the same can be said for Reeve.
You People can’t understand the business side of football. It’s not about loyalty and honor. It’s about MONEY!
May 16th, 2012 at 8:57 am
Reece was a Pro Bowl alternate…those are chosen by the coaches if I’m not mistaken, he has earned a fair deal after proving himself, definitely not a minimum salary guy.
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I know the NFL is a business, but Reece was an Al Davis project/schlorship player, may not have still been in the league if the Raiders did not convert him from WR to FB. Raiders showed a lot of patience in delvoping him. Still would like to see the Raiders offer him a contract…
May 16th, 2012 at 8:59 am
“..a punishing blocker in the run game.”?
That’s an understatement about this guy.
McKenzie seems to building something solid.
When the season starts it’s going to be a relief not to have Hollywood Hue around.
May 16th, 2012 at 8:59 am
I don’t know if anyone has posted this yet but here it is…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YYTDHHHRrc
This FB we signed seems like he’s one crazy mofo, and he loves hitting people and playing football. I could actually see him sticking with the team as long as he’s coachable.
May 16th, 2012 at 8:59 am
Romac = Camp Body
May 16th, 2012 at 9:00 am
I think out Offense is going to dominate teams this year… at least I hope so.
May 16th, 2012 at 9:02 am
Kinda funny this morning watching CNN, must have been a slow NFL day b/c on the ticker the only NFL story was “Raiders sign fullback Owen Schmitt.”
May 16th, 2012 at 9:02 am
If you get hurt on your tender, it sucks, but if you are a performer it wont stop you from getting paid.
$$$$$$$$$
Unless its a career ending injury!
May 16th, 2012 at 9:02 am
Morning/afternoon peoples!
Schmitt brought in. Interesting.
No more Tonga?
I wonder what my playa patna, B thinks about it?
May 16th, 2012 at 9:04 am
Reece to play some TE possibly?
May 16th, 2012 at 9:05 am
Guest,
540k is better than min wage, but what kind of logic is that? CEOs shouldn’t ask for more money because their salaries are better than min wage?
That makes no sense! It’s about performance and skills, and Reece out performed his contract.
May 16th, 2012 at 9:05 am
DMAC and Goodson
Meet your new best friend.
May 16th, 2012 at 9:07 am
Unless its a career ending injury
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If you get a career ending injury, chances are you aint getting paid anyways! These NFL contracts are rarely guaranteed for injury. Reece isn’t the type of player that will get a huge signing bonus.
May 16th, 2012 at 9:07 am
Preppie,
Do you work for BAC?
May 16th, 2012 at 9:07 am
I got a chance to meet Reece a 2 years ago. He’s a good dude and plays hard. Like my brother from another mother said, he outperformed his contract.
May 16th, 2012 at 9:08 am
@ Raider O,
Like Duck said, the union who negotiated the last CBA should be where Reece should take his frustration out on. CEO’s of corporations are free agents who jump ship for megabucks after a good quarter. They don’t have the same constraints.
But having said all that, I feel for Reece. He has outperformed his contract. But still there isn’t any guarantee that he’ll be as big a factor as was under Hue. The new system may not be a fit for him. It goes both ways.
May 16th, 2012 at 9:09 am
The guaranteed portion of the contract has nothing to do with injury. Look at PM.
May 16th, 2012 at 9:10 am
DMAC.. good day my Green Party brother !!
and btw… Bird is the word !!
May 16th, 2012 at 9:10 am
I def. know I outperformed at work.
I wish I could hold out from work, but it will never happen.
They would just replace me.
May 16th, 2012 at 9:10 am
DMAC Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 9:04 am
Reece to play some TE possibly?
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Small for a tight end. I was wondering that myself though. I really want to see this guy play more since he’s got good receiver skills.
May 16th, 2012 at 9:11 am
CEO’s of corporations are free agents who jump ship for megabucks after a good quarter.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Reece is a FA!!!!!
May 16th, 2012 at 9:11 am
R8ER MIKE Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 9:10 am
DMAC.. good day my Green Party brother !!
and btw… Bird is the word !!
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The bird,bird,bird. The bird is da word.
What up brotherrrr?! (hulk hogan voice)
May 16th, 2012 at 9:12 am
Just out of curiousity. Why do you guys think the offer extended to Reece was only for $540k? I can’t seem to locate a hard number for an ERFA tender, but the minimum on any other tender is $1.01 million
May 16th, 2012 at 9:12 am
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 9:10 am
DMAC Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 9:04 am
Reece to play some TE possibly?
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Small for a tight end. I was wondering that myself though. I really want to see this guy play more since he’s got good receiver skills.
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He’s got to hit the field more often. He can make plays for us.
May 16th, 2012 at 9:12 am
I know I said Reggie should throw Reece a bone and give him a small deal, but ultimately I am with Reggie in whatever he decides is best with Reece. If Reggie wants to go with a more traditional blocking FB in Schmitt, I am all for that. I have wanted a good FB in here since we lost one of our best young draft pick Orenthal O’Neal!
Losing that dude was a much larger blow to the Raiders than many realize. He was the real deal. What a shame.
So, if Reggie doesn’t think Reece will fit in with what we are doing, then I am cool with that…..but I still think he might be our best bet to backup McFadden.
May 16th, 2012 at 9:12 am
Facts:
Reece is a FA
He is not under any contract.
He didn’t sign his tender.
May 16th, 2012 at 9:13 am
Tender = NEW 1 year contract.
May 16th, 2012 at 9:14 am
Orenthal
————-
classic name!
May 16th, 2012 at 9:14 am
Reece is a FA!!!!!
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No he isn’t. You have to have 4 years of accrued service in an active roster to be considered a FA. 3 years makes you a restricted FA (like Mike Wallace for example, or Mike Bush for us last year). Reece only has TWO YEARS of active service (his time prior to that was spent on the practice squad). He does not qualify for free agency
May 16th, 2012 at 9:14 am
Fact: ERFA is not the same as UFA
May 16th, 2012 at 9:14 am
DMAC,
I held out for more money, and the dealership gave me a raise.
May 16th, 2012 at 9:15 am
178.DMAC Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 9:02 am
Morning/afternoon peoples!
Schmitt brought in. Interesting.
No more Tonga?
I wonder what my playa patna, B thinks about it?
I think possibly that Schmidt (sp?) was brought in for insurance in case Reece doesn’t sign! But if he is a crazy mofo that bangs his head on his helmet, maybe that is someone that we need…if Tonga is expendable because of this guy, and we win with him, then be it! No hard feelings!
May 16th, 2012 at 9:15 am
Restricted What?!?!
Restricted FREE AGENT!! He is not under contract, sp he is a FA.
May 16th, 2012 at 9:16 am
Facts:
Reece is a FA
He is not under any contract.
He didn’t sign his tender.
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This is patently incorrect. A free agent implies he is free to sign with another team. Reece is not, and in fact if he were to talk to another team that would be tampering. The Raiders own his rights whether he signs or not.
May 16th, 2012 at 9:16 am
@bcz24
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/oakland-raiders/marcel-reece/
May 16th, 2012 at 9:16 am
Palmer said T.O. is a good influence on Raider WRs:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/16/carson-palmer-t-o-is-a-good-influence-for-raiders-receivers/
May 16th, 2012 at 9:16 am
Raider O Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 9:14 am
DMAC,
I held out for more money, and the dealership gave me a raise.
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Your lucky, because when you work for the Oakland Unified School District it doesn’t quite work like that.
They show you the door.
May 16th, 2012 at 9:16 am
So*
May 16th, 2012 at 9:17 am
Sorry O. You are wrong. If Reece doesn’t sign his deal, than he cant play in the NFL, and the fact is, even if he plays on his 1 year deal, the Raiders will own his rights as a restricted Free Agent next year as well.
May 16th, 2012 at 9:17 am
DMAC, when you work for Bank of the West, unless you are THAT good, they will do the same!
May 16th, 2012 at 9:18 am
Is he under contract? No. He is a Free Agent (Restricted)
May 16th, 2012 at 9:19 am
Bcz,
It’s ok. It will not be the 1st time. lol
Agree to disagree I guess.
May 16th, 2012 at 9:19 am
Is he under contract? No. He is a Free Agent (Restricted)
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Is he free to sign anywhere else?
May 16th, 2012 at 9:19 am
hwnrdr Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 9:15 am
178.DMAC Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 9:02 am
Morning/afternoon peoples!
Schmitt brought in. Interesting.
No more Tonga?
I wonder what my playa patna, B thinks about it?
I think possibly that Schmidt (sp?) was brought in for insurance in case Reece doesn’t sign! But if he is a crazy mofo that bangs his head on his helmet, maybe that is someone that we need…if Tonga is expendable because of this guy, and we win with him, then be it! No hard feelings!
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I think it was a great move to bring in Schmitt. He’s a true FB. Unfortunately, I don’t see Tonga making the squad though. DMAC and Goodson is going to love this guy.
May 16th, 2012 at 9:20 am
bcz24 Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 9:17 am
Sorry O. You are wrong. If Reece doesn’t sign his deal, than he cant play in the NFL, and the fact is, even if he plays on his 1 year deal, the Raiders will own his rights as a restricted Free Agent next year as well.
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True dat
May 16th, 2012 at 9:20 am
Hwnrdr & DMAC,
You People need to establish dependency which will give you more power.
May 16th, 2012 at 9:20 am
Today’s work environment has changed. Employers are quick to throw you out for anything. I have a buddy who manages a FedEx shipping service branch. They have everyone on GPS and if you are one minute late, they call you out on it, or if you stop by an adress that’s not on your route, you can be fired. Just like that. New employees don’t want to think about taking a sick day in their first year, they’d be thrown out..just that quick.
Times have changed.
May 16th, 2012 at 9:21 am
Agreed DMAC…and Tonga is now ineligble for the PS!
May 16th, 2012 at 9:21 am
BCZ, found this to backup the link Dutch posted, which is also the link I found when I originally stated Reece would get $540k.
“TAMPA, Fla. — Running back LeGarrette Blount and receiver Preston Parker have signed exclusive-rights tender offers from the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
The third-year pros will earn about $540,000 next season. Meanwhile, the Bucs announced third-string quarterback Rudy Carpenter was waived on Wednesday.
Blount led Tampa Bay in rushing the past two seasons, gaining 1,007 yards as a rookie in 2010 and finishing with 781 yards and five touchdowns last year.
Parker had 40 catches for 554 yards and three TDs in 2011.”
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7775706/legarrette-blount-preston-parker-tampa-bay-buccaneers-sign-exclusive-rights-tenders
May 16th, 2012 at 9:22 am
If Reese doesn’t sign, he still owes us a year, that is a fact, he can sit out this season but he still owes us a year. He can’t sign with another team just because he doesn’t sign his tender, hence he’s not a FA.
May 16th, 2012 at 9:22 am
215.Raider O Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 9:20 am
Hwnrdr & DMAC,
You People need to establish dependency which will give you more power.
One of these days bro, I’ll have to get with you on that!
May 16th, 2012 at 9:22 am
After 4 years in the NFL Schmitt is mostly known for cracking his skull with his own helmet….that should tell us something.
May 16th, 2012 at 9:23 am
parker-tampa-bay-buccaneers-sign-exclusive-rights-tenders
219.raiderjhawk Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 9:22 am
If Reese doesn’t sign, he still owes us a year, that is a fact, he can sit out this season but he still owes us a year. He can’t sign with another team just because he doesn’t sign his tender, hence he’s not a FA.
That right there will mean that he will sign when needed! I can’t see myself owing anyone a year even if I am unhappy!
May 16th, 2012 at 9:24 am
221.Bob Marley Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 9:22 am
After 4 years in the NFL Schmitt is mostly known for cracking his skull with his own helmet….that should tell us something.
That he likes to hit his head! That may not be good, but…
May 16th, 2012 at 9:24 am
Gotta admit it might be a good sign we are talking about a player the Raiders have by the B@lls, underpaying him, usually we are all gripping about the Raiders overpaying players…
May 16th, 2012 at 9:24 am
216.guest123 Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 9:20 am
Today’s work environment has changed. Employers are quick to throw you out for anything. I have a buddy who manages a FedEx shipping service branch. They have everyone on GPS and if you are one minute late, they call you out on it, or if you stop by an adress that’s not on your route, you can be fired. Just like that. New employees don’t want to think about taking a sick day in their first year, they’d be thrown out..just that quick.
Times have changed.
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As they need to. There are far too many people out ther looking for a way to scam the system, or get over on their boss any way they can. As a hiring manager I see it all the time man. I have seasonal help that will go to the emergency room and get a doctors not for a hangover so they dont have to work… They dont pay the bill anyways. I fired a kid yesterday for that very reason.
May 16th, 2012 at 9:25 am
Schmitt is supposed to be a good blocker.
May 16th, 2012 at 9:25 am
Preston Parker and certainly LeGarrette Blount were more productive than Marcel Reece and they signed their tenders. Reece isn’t any unusual contract who overperforms and signs his tender. It’s all pretty routine stuff.
May 16th, 2012 at 9:26 am
There is no such thing as job security. Anyone who takes a pay cut in mind that it brings them more job security has been fooled.
May 16th, 2012 at 9:26 am
Hwnrdr,
Any time bro.
May 16th, 2012 at 9:26 am
I fired a kid yesterday for that very reason.
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Whoa!
Bcz don’t play that schit!
May 16th, 2012 at 9:26 am
Of course Reece will sign and play for $540k….he made like $200K last season, he can’t afford not to sign and play, but he damn well knows he needs to hold out for as long as he can and hope Reggie gives him a longer deal with more $$$$.
Probably will not happen, but it is something he has to do.
May 16th, 2012 at 9:27 am
Bcz, I know many young peopel who call in sick because they drank too much! My dad taught me very early that if you play, you have to pay…and that is either going to work, or getting a slap across your head for not going to work! LOL, I rather go to work!
May 16th, 2012 at 9:27 am
DutchRaider77 Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 9:24 am
Gotta admit it might be a good sign we are talking about a player the Raiders have by the B@lls, underpaying him, usually we are all gripping about the Raiders overpaying players…
$$$$$$$$$$$$
LOL
That’s true.
May 16th, 2012 at 9:28 am
Bye,bye Tonganator.
May 16th, 2012 at 9:29 am
Sign Reece for a year and see what he does in the new system. He was underused last year. I don’t know if we even need him.
May 16th, 2012 at 9:29 am
Bcz,
How do you know he wasn’t really sick?
May 16th, 2012 at 9:30 am
I don’t know about managers who talk about firing people. Seems like something they should keep to themselves, or to their management circle.
May 16th, 2012 at 9:32 am
@ Hwnrdr,
My dad was a heavy drinker, never missed a day of work despite how he looked or felt in the morning. Basically said the same thing to me. He was no hypocrite.
One day I came home at the crack of dawn, still buzzing from partying and on the cusp of a massive hangover. He didn’t scold me, just smiled and had me put in the hardest day of work I’d ever put in. I didn’t complain, so everything was cool. It wouldn’t have helped to complain anyway. lol
May 16th, 2012 at 9:32 am
Fire ‘em all BCZ!
They will just go get $$ from Nancy Pelosi to sit around schyyyting on themselves and eating their boogies in some park somewhere as professional protesters while collecting unemployment.
May 16th, 2012 at 9:33 am
Raider O Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 9:14 am
DMAC,
I held out for more money, and the dealership gave me a raise
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I asked for a raise and was told “if you want to make mode money, sell more parts ” !!!!
May 16th, 2012 at 9:33 am
Dakota,
WTF is Boogies?
May 16th, 2012 at 9:34 am
236.Raider O Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 9:29 am
Bcz,
How do you know he wasn’t really sick?
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I don’t care if he was really sick or not. I hire seasonal help to be here, and that was the 5th sick day he tried taking in 6 weeks.
May 16th, 2012 at 9:35 am
Dakota,
Is it true you cut off your mullett?
May 16th, 2012 at 9:35 am
They will just go get $$ from Nancy Pelosi to sit around schyyyting on themselves and eating their boogies in some park somewhere as professional protesters while collecting unemployment.
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He doesn’t have the necessary weeks of service to collect unemployment.
May 16th, 2012 at 9:35 am
I used to fire people all the time. It was never something that came easier or became second nature. Really it sucks to tell people they have to go and their income source just dried up. There is no feeling of vindication even if their firing is justified. It’s always a feeling of guilt and remorse. But, it’s something that has to be done every so often. Just like in nature when you prune dead wood from a tree, and the tree blossoms and produces good fruit.
May 16th, 2012 at 9:35 am
“Fire ‘em all”.
The politics of hate.
May 16th, 2012 at 9:36 am
Bcz, it’s not up to you or your company who gets unemployment benefits. It’s up to a judge.
May 16th, 2012 at 9:37 am
ODB,
LOL
May 16th, 2012 at 9:37 am
243.DMAC Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 9:35 am
Dakota,
Is it true you cut off your mullett?
____________________
In 1991.
May 16th, 2012 at 9:38 am
238.guest123 Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 9:32 am
@ Hwnrdr,
My dad was a heavy drinker, never missed a day of work despite how he looked or felt in the morning. Basically said the same thing to me. He was no hypocrite.
One day I came home at the crack of dawn, still buzzing from partying and on the cusp of a massive hangover. He didn’t scold me, just smiled and had me put in the hardest day of work I’d ever put in. I didn’t complain, so everything was cool. It wouldn’t have helped to complain anyway. lol
Yup! My dad a few times went to the bar downstairs from his work…went upstairs to sleep, then woke up and went right into the office!
May 16th, 2012 at 9:38 am
Raider O….Boogers man, come on! Boogies!
May 16th, 2012 at 9:38 am
237.Sullivan44 Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 9:30 am
I don’t know about managers who talk about firing people. Seems like something they should keep to themselves, or to their management circle.
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Why. Do ANY of you, know what company I work for, what city I am in, or any pertinant information about the employee?
May 16th, 2012 at 9:38 am
Dakota Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 9:37 am
243.DMAC Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 9:35 am
Dakota,
Is it true you cut off your mullett?
____________________
In 1991.
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So what are you sporting now? The Chris Mullin high top fade?
May 16th, 2012 at 9:39 am
I’ve had several friends in management. Some were the types that boasted of firing people, some were the types that avoided talking about it all costs. The latter are a much better class of people.
May 16th, 2012 at 9:41 am
There is nothing wrong with saying that you had to fire someone, if it came up in conversation…as long as you don’t release the person’s name…just my opinion! Bcz did nothing wrong here…I hear it all the time. I just tune certain things out!
May 16th, 2012 at 9:42 am
253.DMAC Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 9:38 am
Dakota Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 9:37 am
243.DMAC Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 9:35 am
Dakota,
Is it true you cut off your mullett?
____________________
In 1991.
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So what are you sporting now? The Chris Mullin high top fade?
+++++++++++++
I am sporting the parallel retreat of my frontage and the clear-cut hole in the top look.
May 16th, 2012 at 9:42 am
247.Sullivan44 Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 9:36 am
Bcz, it’s not up to you or your company who gets unemployment benefits. It’s up to a judge.
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You don’t know the circumstances so shut your mouth. The kid worked for 6 weeks, and he also has another job working part time at Home Depot.
If you know the rules of collecting unemployment (which I do, it is my job) you would know that 1. You cant collect unemployment if you have another job, and 2. there is a minimum number of service weeks required to collect unemployment… and just to add insult to injury, I have plenty of documentation to back up his termination. I didn’t just decide yesterday to let him go. He is NOT eligible for unemployment. He won’t even be eligible to file and get his case heard by a judge.
May 16th, 2012 at 9:42 am
LMAO Dakota. Im glad you told me. There was no way I was going to fugue it out.
WOW.
May 16th, 2012 at 9:42 am
Also: A lot of companies today have reduced their middle management position to cheap labor, just like the rest of the workforce. The manager might get a few cents more per hour, but basically the real perk is just getting to boss people around. They purposely hire the type of people that would find joy in just being the boss of their peers, and who really have no other skill or intelligence.
May 16th, 2012 at 9:43 am
Now it would be different if that kid was on this blog…
May 16th, 2012 at 9:43 am
MR,
How many times have you been fired from the basement, garage, closet, backyard and dungeon?
May 16th, 2012 at 9:44 am
You cant collect unemployment if you have another job,
$$$$$$$$$
I didn’t know that.
May 16th, 2012 at 9:44 am
Bcz, it’s not up to you or your company who gets unemployment. It’s up to a judge. If you don’t even understand that, you’re the one who needs to shut your mouth. You don’t even understand labor laws. Typical for today’s middle management. That, and boasting of firing people. Whoo, you’re so tough.
May 16th, 2012 at 9:45 am
Dakota Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 9:42 am
253.DMAC Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 9:38 am
Dakota Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 9:37 am
243.DMAC Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 9:35 am
Dakota,
Is it true you cut off your mullett?
____________________
In 1991.
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So what are you sporting now? The Chris Mullin high top fade?
+++++++++++++
I am sporting the parallel retreat of my frontage and the clear-cut hole in the top look.
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Thats fk’n awesome!
Can’t wait to meet you at one of the games this season.
After you smoke some of the schit I got, it might blow your top off!
May 16th, 2012 at 9:45 am
Bcz, actually in California, you can collect a part time unemployment but you’re right, it has to be longer than 6 weeks, and he got “let go” because of attendance! Very hard to fight that!
May 16th, 2012 at 9:45 am
254.Sullivan44 Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 9:39 am
I’ve had several friends in management. Some were the types that boasted of firing people, some were the types that avoided talking about it all costs. The latter are a much better class of people.
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Who ‘boasted’ about it? I can’t believe I let him suck me in to the troll vortex….
May 16th, 2012 at 9:47 am
DMAC, I work a decent pay job, have been with the company almost 20 years. My third job overall. I’ve never been fired in my life.
May 16th, 2012 at 9:47 am
Wait sorry…that is if you only get a part time job! Sorry…but they also do not have to give it to you!
May 16th, 2012 at 9:49 am
Only a judge ultimately decides who is eligible for unemployment, not the company that terminated the employee. The so called “rules” regarding who is eligible are guidelines, nothing more.
May 16th, 2012 at 9:49 am
Thats me… a “middle management simpleton” LOL. I have the IQ of a thimble and work for $1.24 per hour.
May 16th, 2012 at 9:49 am
Sullivan44 Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 9:47 am
DMAC, I work a decent pay job, have been with the company almost 20 years. My third job overall. I’ve never been fired in my life.
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What about that time at Taco Bell?
lol
Naw, I’m just fk’n w/ you MR.
Good for you, that you have a job.
May 16th, 2012 at 9:51 am
269.Sullivan44 Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 9:49 am
Only a judge ultimately decides who is eligible for unemployment, not the company that terminated the employee. The so called “rules” regarding who is eligible are guidelines, nothing more.
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Yep. Judges are very keen about handing out unemployment to people who only have 6 accrued weeks of service AND failed to at any time in those 6 weeks, work the hours provided.
May 16th, 2012 at 9:51 am
Thats me… a “middle management simpleton” LOL. I have the IQ of a thimble and work for $1.24 per hour.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Why so much?
LOL
May 16th, 2012 at 9:51 am
bcz24 Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 9:49 am
Thats me… a “middle management simpleton” LOL. I have the IQ of a thimble and work for $1.24 per hour.
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no sh1t, you work for a car dealership and sell auto parts too ??
May 16th, 2012 at 9:52 am
DMac,
Carl’s Jr., and a mom and pops pizzeria in high school. That pizza job was the funnest time in my life. It was near sac state, all my co-workers were frats and sorors, it was a party around the clock.
May 16th, 2012 at 9:53 am
Anyways….reports coming out of OTAs are positive…but that is every year right? I think that the new regime will turn things around but I don’t see an immediate success story! Maybe, like some say, by weeks 4-6
May 16th, 2012 at 9:53 am
DMAC is going to have a monster year, if he can give us at least 12-13 games this season.
May 16th, 2012 at 9:54 am
Bcz, ultimately, it’s up to a judge, not the company, who gets unemployment. If you don’t understand that, you have no idea what you’re talking about.
May 16th, 2012 at 9:54 am
Here’s hoping for a full season out of him! The good thing about him is that he never had the same injury, correct?
May 16th, 2012 at 9:55 am
Sullivan44 Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 9:52 am
DMac,
Carl’s Jr., and a mom and pops pizzeria in high school. That pizza job was the funnest time in my life. It was near sac state, all my co-workers were frats and sorors, it was a party around the clock.
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I had a great time working at Dollar rent a Car, back in days. I’m talking about some nice memories man.
May 16th, 2012 at 9:56 am
yes
May 16th, 2012 at 9:56 am
278.Sullivan44 Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 9:54 am
Bcz, ultimately, it’s up to a judge, not the company, who gets unemployment. If you don’t understand that, you have no idea what you’re talking about.
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Please do me a favor and post the quote where I said it was up to my companies discretion on whether or not the terminated employee qualified for unemployment benefits? Go ahead. Ill wait.
May 16th, 2012 at 9:57 am
Hwnrdr,
I’ve heard Bill Belicheck regarding OTA’s…really only good for teaching rather than evaluating. Stars in OTA’s sometimes never carry thru to preseason and stars in preseason never make it to reg season. It’s really early, and as fans we all want some sort of feedback, but we all need to be patient.
May 16th, 2012 at 9:58 am
Bcz, you implied several times that it was up to your company who gets unemployment, right alongside your boasts of terminating employees. That’s why I corrected you in the first place. I wouldn’t have brought it up otherwise. And, you even tried to argue against it a couple of times. Now you’re doing the whole, “Show me where I said” thing. Hilarious.
May 16th, 2012 at 10:01 am
The judge doesn’t decide who gets UE. 1st you apply, they qualify you, and if you don’t qualify, then you can have a judge hear your case (Hearing). Employer has the right to fight it too.
May 16th, 2012 at 10:03 am
Bcz,
Do you really have to argue with it? Why bother bro. Let’s talk more about Reece being a Free Agent.
May 16th, 2012 at 10:03 am
boast:
verb (used without object)
1. to speak with exaggeration and excessive pride, especially about oneself.
2. to speak with pride (often followed by of ): He boasted of his family’s wealth.
3. to speak of with excessive pride or vanity: He boasts himself a genius.
4. to be proud in the possession of: The town boasts a new school.
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I don’t think Bcz did anything at all resembling “boasting” about firing anyone. Ridiculous accusation.
May 16th, 2012 at 10:04 am
Reece = Free Agent (restricted)
Is he free to sign with another team? No
Is he under contract? No
Can he demand a LT contract? Yes
May 16th, 2012 at 10:05 am
Bcz, you implied several times that it was up to your company who gets unemployment, right alongside your boasts of terminating employees. That’s why I corrected you in the first place. I wouldn’t have brought it up otherwise. And, you even tried to argue against it a couple of times. Now you’re doing the whole, “Show me where I said” thing. Hilarious.
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Again you are wrong. Bcz/company can appeal the ruling of the administrator who reviews the case and deems that the fired individual is able to receive unemployment benefits.
•A person who quits work or is fired from work will be scheduled to a telephone interview because there is a separation issue that must be resolved.
The Department interviewer obtains and documents information about the separation from the employer and claimant and decides, according to law and regulations, if the person is eligible to collect benefits. The Department mails a notice to the claimant who is not eligible for benefits. The Department mails a notice to the employer who responded timely to the notice of claim filed. The notice advises the employer about whether the claimant is eligible or not, and whether the employer’s account will be charged for benefits paid to the former employee. Either party can disagree with an unfavorable decision and file an appeal.
May 16th, 2012 at 10:05 am
No. I gave you the reasons why he wouldn’t qualify. I never said that my company determined his eligiblity, you just inferred that, as you infer a lot of things when you go trolling. I also never ‘boasted’ about firing him, I mearly mentioned it since it was a fitting point to the conversation I was having.
To recap, the terminated employee does not meet the NYS minimum requirements for unemployment, I have proper documentation for his termination and his employed by another business as well. Were he to apply for unemployment, his claim will quickly be denied by the NYS labor board, however IF he so chooses, he has the legal right to file an appeal of the labor boards decision, in which case a judge will review the information provided, and ultimately deny his claim for the reasons I have already stated. Thanks for playing troll.
May 16th, 2012 at 10:07 am
Thanks guys, for being rational intelligent people, I apologize for your involvement in my momentary lapse of reason regard the rules of troll feeding. It won’t happen again.
May 16th, 2012 at 10:08 am
Raider O Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 10:01 am
The judge doesn’t decide who gets UE. 1st you apply, they qualify you, and if you don’t qualify, then you can have a judge hear your case (Hearing). Employer has the right to fight it too.
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Bingo!
I know because I try every year in the summer.
May 16th, 2012 at 10:08 am
What happened to Eddie Murphy? He used to be so funny. RAW was great.
Um fufu the Bush Biotch wants Half!!
May 16th, 2012 at 10:09 am
Raider O,
You don’t even make sense. You contradicted yourself. First you say that a judge doesn’t decide, then you say that they do in the appeal process. Duh, what do you think an appeal is? That’s part of the process. Everyone that gets rejected for unemployment appeals right way, then, again, a judge decides.
The firing company does not ultimately decide who gets unemployment, only a judge does. So it’s stupid for someone who represents a company to say who will or won’t get unemployment. Unless they have a judge in their pocket, they have no say in it. They’re talking out of their ass.
May 16th, 2012 at 10:11 am
Raider O Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 10:08 am
What happened to Eddie Murphy? He used to be so funny. RAW was great.
Um fufu the Bush Biotch wants Half!!
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Maybe all that pounding to the arsenal has taken his toll on him.
May 16th, 2012 at 10:11 am
DMAC,
I try too, but you can’t fire yourself from your own business and collect benefits.
May 16th, 2012 at 10:12 am
Bcz, you implied several times that it was your company who decided who gets unemployment. I wouldn’t have brought up how the process actually works otherwise. It was to correct your uninformed view. You were a little too sure of yourself, while being clearly wrong. Couldn’t sit back and watch.
May 16th, 2012 at 10:13 am
Raider O Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 10:11 am
DMAC,
I try too, but you can’t fire yourself from your own business and collect benefits.
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Well guess what?
I’m the new sherrif in town.
YOUR FIRED!!!
May 16th, 2012 at 10:15 am
ODB!
WTF dude!
I’ve been waiting for over a hour on that alternator.
lol
May 16th, 2012 at 10:15 am
Dutch, why are you doing this to yourself? Anyone can appeal unemployment benefits, either side. Judge ultimately presides over appeals. It will all come down to appeals, despite the requirements. The requirements are guidelines, nothing more. Unless the applicant becomes overwhelmed and just gives up before the appeal process plays out, a judge and a judge only is all who can reject someone’s unemployment benefits.
May 16th, 2012 at 10:16 am
MR
روح نام مع بنت عمك!
May 16th, 2012 at 10:17 am
And here’s a video of our favorite MLB Rolando McChump grieving his “dead grandfather.”
http://www.waaytv.com/news/local/story/Video-of-Rolando-McClain-incident-surfaces/qAtHCmZ5MU6HGPhnzwWa_A.cspx
BTW, did we ever get any confirmation on where this “dead grandfather” even existed?
May 16th, 2012 at 10:18 am
*whether
May 16th, 2012 at 10:18 am
lol DMAC !!
May 16th, 2012 at 10:18 am
Raider O Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 10:16 am
MR
روح نام مع بنت عمك!
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O Dog
You gotta teach me that dude.
May 16th, 2012 at 10:18 am
Again, if you don’t qualify, you can appeal! That’s what Dutch and Bcz clearly don’t understand. The rejection of the application is the beginning of the process. These companies always love to get all macho mouth about who gets unemployment, it’s a tactic which discourages people from applying for benefits. That’s what BCz and Dutch are doing right now. Understand, that you can appeal your rejection, appeal a decision by a judge to cancel benefits, and honestly, I’m not even sure there’s a limit to appeals. It would just take so much time, all the while you’re not getting any money. But nonetheless, the appeal process is open to both sides at all times, and a judge ultimately makes the decision in the appeals process.
May 16th, 2012 at 10:18 am
Sign the tender, play the deal, and if you perform you WILL have the leverage for more money. Reece’s problem is that, no matter how explosive he can be, he isn’t a natural fit at any position. To big for WR, can’t block well enough for TE/FB. I think he is closest to a natural RB2, but I don’t know that he can carry an extended load of 20 times a game.
I’m not hating on Reece for not showing up now anyways… he better be there bright eyed and bushy tailed for training camp though.
If Reece doesn’t like his options, then tough. The union that represents him negotiated a CBA wherein players finishing their third year are ERFAs and cannot test the free market.
For a fullback who’s an average blocker (at best) and has yet to gain 900 yards from scrimmage IN HIS ENTIRE CAREER, $540K for one year is fine. He needs to sign it and get in here. After the season’s over, he can walk if he feels so incredibly disrespected.
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co-signed with Bcz & Duck !!!
May 16th, 2012 at 10:19 am
Raider O Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 10:16 am
MR
روح نام مع بنت عمك!
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cool, how did you get pubic hair on the screen like that ??
May 16th, 2012 at 10:20 am
DMac
You go to babel fish, just type in a phrase and select which language you want it translated in, and then copy and paste it. Did you think Raider O was really educated in multiple languages? He’s barely grasped English.
May 16th, 2012 at 10:24 am
308.R8ER MIKE Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 10:19 am
Raider O Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 10:16 am
MR
روح نام مع بنت عمك!
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cool, how did you get pubic hair on the screen like that ??
LOL, even a scanner wouldn’t make it look that nice!
May 16th, 2012 at 10:25 am
DMAC,
روح نام مع بنت عمك = go sleep with your cousin.
May 16th, 2012 at 10:26 am
When you’re out of intelligent arguments, make insults. Typical.
May 16th, 2012 at 10:26 am
Thanx for the footage Duck
May 16th, 2012 at 10:27 am
LMAO ODB.
Long Live ODB.
May 16th, 2012 at 10:28 am
Sullivan44 Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 10:20 am
DMac
You go to babel fish, just type in a phrase and select which language you want it translated in, and then copy and paste it. Did you think Raider O was really educated in multiple languages? He’s barely grasped English.
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O Dog seems like a sharp educated dude. So yes I did think so.
May 16th, 2012 at 10:29 am
Palmer suggested that there’s just not room on the Raiders’ depth chart for Owens.
“I love the guys we have,” Palmer said. “I don’t know where the spots are to be had. You can only carry so many receivers. . . . Training camp, at that position, is going to be really interesting because there’s a lot of guys. There’s too many guys.”
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good read @ PFT.
big ups to Paul G for that Palmer interview!
May 16th, 2012 at 10:29 am
Well, I guess to someone who dropped out of kindergarten, Raider O would seem intelligent.
May 16th, 2012 at 10:30 am
روح نام مع بنت عمك
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?? 2KOOL4SKOOL pubic gel hair styling ??
May 16th, 2012 at 10:32 am
DMAC,
Thank you sir. I appreciate the kind words.
A lot people in this country are bilingual especially in CA. I was born abroad and lived abroad for 15 years, so you learn a few things. Has nothing to do with education or intellect. Even a dumb bastard can learn a few words in 15 years.
May 16th, 2012 at 10:32 am
316. None of them a proven X but T.O. has proven over and over and over and over hes a cancer. Being broke certainly isn;t going to change that. If anything, you’d think his attitude would be worse. He was a tool when he was rich. Being poor usually doesn’t make people happier and we have some talent at WR. Young, unproven but worth seeing without exposing them to Mr. Bad Influence.
Go Raiders!~
May 16th, 2012 at 10:32 am
14 Duke Calhoun
89 Derek Carrier
13 Brandon Carswell
84 Juron Criner
12 Jacoby Ford
85 Darrius Heyward-Bey
19 Thomas Mayo
16 Eddie McGee
17 Denarius Moore
18 Louis Murphy
87 Travionte Session
80 Rod Streater
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Palmer likes these guys, so who sticks?
DHB, Moore, Ford, Criner & Murphy.
anybody have a favorite for 6th WR?
I’ve heard good things about McGee, Calhoun & Streater!
May 16th, 2012 at 10:32 am
Even a dumb bastard can copy and paste from yahoo babelfish, which is what you did.
May 16th, 2012 at 10:32 am
Isn’t that right Dakota?
May 16th, 2012 at 10:33 am
319. Seek Knowlege. Always a good thing. Closed minds are often in conflict.
Have a great day Nation!~
May 16th, 2012 at 10:33 am
The film looks like they had a little beef w/ their friend and settled it w/ a one on one fight, which isn’t 2 bad, but the edited sound is a def. a head scratcher.
May 16th, 2012 at 10:34 am
Alright, got to run. And in case Dutch or Bcz try to come back and post a bunch of huge copy and paste requirements for unemployment, remember, anyone can appeal the process at any time, and a judge ultimately decides! Don’t let them mislead you. Good day.
May 16th, 2012 at 10:34 am
321. Calhoun has the advantage
May 16th, 2012 at 10:35 am
Sullivan44 seems to know an awful lot about unemployment.
anybody surprised?
May 16th, 2012 at 10:37 am
lol RRS. no surprise at all !!
May 16th, 2012 at 10:37 am
322.Sullivan44 Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 10:32 am
Even a dumb bastard can copy and paste from yahoo babelfish, which is what you did.
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C’mon Sully. Be the caring nurturer we all know you to be.
May 16th, 2012 at 10:37 am
293.Raider O Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 10:08 am
What happened to Eddie Murphy? He used to be so funny. RAW was great.
Um fufu the Bush Biotch wants Half!!
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Eddie Murphy Delirious was MUCH funnier than Raw in my opinion. Check it out if you haven’t seen it.
May 16th, 2012 at 10:38 am
ODB,
Always thinking of pubes, hummer gummers, and B White and the golden girls.
Long Live The ODB!
May 16th, 2012 at 10:39 am
Bcz,
What was he wearing?
He was wearing a purple leather suit for Raw.
May 16th, 2012 at 10:39 am
C’mon Sully. Be the caring nurturer we all know you to be
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@DJG
yeah – when I think of him, I think about compassion.
I bet he’s a hospice nurse
May 16th, 2012 at 10:40 am
lol O .. you know i love me some Golden Girls !!!
May 16th, 2012 at 10:41 am
O Dog
There shouldn’t be any excuses for you to not head up north this season and kick at the coliseum for a game.
We’ll have a blast w/ everyone.
May 16th, 2012 at 10:41 am
Just because AEG signed a “no poaching” clause, all that means is the Raiders won’t move to Farmers Field. The COI is still a possibility and AEG isn’t the only player. Oo coliseum lost $17 million last year and with the A’s moving to a new park, it will only get worse. Once this lease is up, Mark Davis is going to have his new stadium one way or the other, you can count on that, in Oakland or LA.
May 16th, 2012 at 10:41 am
Red leather suit for delirious.
ICE CREAM! I got some ice cream and you aint got none, you cant afford it cuz you on welfare… *plop*
You dropped your ice cream now you aint got none…
lol funniest sh1t ever man
May 16th, 2012 at 10:41 am
RR,
I hope not. Can you imagine him arguing with those poor patients. I imagine patients will start pulling their own plugs to stop the arguing.
MR = Wife?
May 16th, 2012 at 10:42 am
And La Canfora’s reporting that Reece now has CJ37’s agent. Wonderful.
May 16th, 2012 at 10:42 am
I agree w/ Bcz. Delirious was better. That the one w/ the red leather suit.
May 16th, 2012 at 10:44 am
Alright, got to run. And in case Dutch or Bcz try to come back and post a bunch of huge copy and paste requirements for unemployment, remember, anyone can appeal the process at any time, and a judge ultimately decides! Don’t let them mislead you. Good day.
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Actually, you only have 20 days from the EDD decision to file your 1st appeal.
May 16th, 2012 at 10:44 am
La Canfora’s reporting that Reece now has CJ37’s agent. Wonderful
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@Duck
name of the agent, please?
as long as it isn’t Drew Rosenhaus we should be fine.
May 16th, 2012 at 10:45 am
I suggest YOU Laker fans smoke a whole lot before 2nights game to ease some of the pain Durantula and Harden are going to apply.
May 16th, 2012 at 10:45 am
Golden Girls?
I always marvelled at why Rue McClanahan thought she was so hot. Gross.
But Bea Arthur? I’m sorry but that big ole battleaxe was funny.
May 16th, 2012 at 10:45 am
DMAC,
I will try bro. I want to meet you, Hwnrdr, Dirt Lot, Dell, B, and more.
Maybe ODB can meet us there too.
May 16th, 2012 at 10:46 am
Raider O Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 10:45 am
DMAC,
I will try bro. I want to meet you, Hwnrdr, Dirt Lot, Dell, B, and more.
Maybe ODB can meet us there too.
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That would be DOPE!
May 16th, 2012 at 10:47 am
Bcz,
I remember the red suit, but I can’t remember the show. I need to watch it again. They used to show all that stuff on HBO. Eddie, C Rock, etc…
May 16th, 2012 at 10:48 am
Raider O Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 10:45 am
DMAC,
I will try bro. I want to meet you, Hwnrdr, Dirt Lot, Dell, B, and more.
Maybe ODB can meet us there too.
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thought you guys were making the road thip east to catch the Raider/Raven game ??
May 16th, 2012 at 10:48 am
344.DMAC Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 10:45 am
I suggest YOU Laker fans smoke a whole lot before 2nights game to ease some of the pain Durantula and Harden are going to apply.
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I would think that LA would show up better than last game.
At least not lose by 30 pts.
May 16th, 2012 at 10:49 am
45 minutes until lunch.
all I brought was a turkey sandwich, but nachos sound SOOO good right now!
May 16th, 2012 at 10:50 am
Has anyone ever been to Mile high or KC to check out a game?
May 16th, 2012 at 10:50 am
The Fakers and Clippers are done.
Fire Del Negro!
May 16th, 2012 at 10:50 am
?? you got the munchies RRS?
May 16th, 2012 at 10:51 am
331.bcz24 Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 10:37 am
293.Raider O Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 10:08 am
What happened to Eddie Murphy? He used to be so funny. RAW was great.
Um fufu the Bush Biotch wants Half!!
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Eddie Murphy Delirious was MUCH funnier than Raw in my opinion. Check it out if you haven’t seen it.
Yes, Delirious ws the red suit and Raw was purple. There were a few funny moments in Raw, but in Delirious, he was more Raw…still one of my funniest of all time videos!
May 16th, 2012 at 10:52 am
346.Raider O Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 10:45 am
DMAC,
I will try bro. I want to meet you, Hwnrdr, Dirt Lot, Dell, B, and more.
Maybe ODB can meet us there too.
Do it and let us know! Always a pleasure to meet people on here!
May 16th, 2012 at 10:53 am
Has anyone ever been to Mile high or KC to check out a game?
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@hippie
I’ll probably go to Arrowhead to see the Raiders play, eventually. probably not this year
10/28 is my wife’s birthday!
that would be more of a present to me
May 16th, 2012 at 10:53 am
nachos sound SOOO good right now!
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and a beer!
May 16th, 2012 at 10:53 am
344.DMAC Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 10:45 am
I suggest YOU Laker fans smoke a whole lot before 2nights game to ease some of the pain Durantula and Harden are going to apply.
Sorry DMAC, is that what you Warriors fans do all season? LOL…couldn’t resist, sorry
Anyways, I just won’t watch! I’ll be like Dakota and fly stuff around the house!
May 16th, 2012 at 10:54 am
ODB,
Not me bro. I don’t travel east of Ohio (unless I’m traveling abroad).
May 16th, 2012 at 10:55 am
I was glad to see that Pryor looked sharp in practice.
His college stats were very close to Cam Newton’s.
May 16th, 2012 at 10:55 am
@G123
make mine a root beer and you’re on!
May 16th, 2012 at 10:57 am
I have to watch it again. I thought Raw was great.
Still LMAO at UmFufu the Bush Biotch!
May 16th, 2012 at 10:57 am
349.R8ER MIKE Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 10:48 am
Raider O Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 10:45 am
DMAC,
I will try bro. I want to meet you, Hwnrdr, Dirt Lot, Dell, B, and more.
Maybe ODB can meet us there too.
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thought you guys were making the road thip east to catch the Raider/Raven game ??
I’m still working on that!
May 16th, 2012 at 10:57 am
hwnrdr Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 10:53 am
344.DMAC Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 10:45 am
I suggest YOU Laker fans smoke a whole lot before 2nights game to ease some of the pain Durantula and Harden are going to apply.
Sorry DMAC, is that what you Warriors fans do all season? LOL…couldn’t resist, sorry
Anyways, I just won’t watch! I’ll be like Dakota and fly stuff around the house!
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No, but I do have to talk a little schit, because some people on here like to bash my team. (not you of course)
May 16th, 2012 at 10:58 am
I’m still working on that!
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@hwnrdr
translation: let me check with the wifey to see if I can ditch the family for the weekend. she may have other plans
LOL
May 16th, 2012 at 10:58 am
363.Raider O Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 10:57 am
I have to watch it again. I thought Raw was great.
Still LMAO at UmFufu the Bush Biotch!
That part was funny! I want half Mr F you man!!! LOL
May 16th, 2012 at 10:58 am
RRS. are you in a band or play an instrument ??
May 16th, 2012 at 10:59 am
LOL, its all good DMAC! Like I said, I like to see the Warriors do good!
May 16th, 2012 at 10:59 am
are you in a band or play an instrument ??
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@Mike
does air guitar count?
May 16th, 2012 at 10:59 am
cool that will work Hwnrdr.
May 16th, 2012 at 10:59 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 10:53 am
Has anyone ever been to Mile high or KC to check out a game?
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@hippie
I’ll probably go to Arrowhead to see the Raiders play, eventually. probably not this year
10/28 is my wife’s birthday!
that would be more of a present to me
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I want to go to sooooo fk’n bad all Raidered out. Maybe we can hook up one day RaiderWabbit.
May 16th, 2012 at 11:00 am
366.RaiderRockstar Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 10:58 am
I’m still working on that!
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@hwnrdr
translation: let me check with the wifey to see if I can ditch the family for the weekend. she may have other plans
LOL
LOL< actually I am talking with her to make it a family trip! I mean, it will be educational (somewhat) for the kids…just not sure about the situation back home!
May 16th, 2012 at 11:01 am
ROFLMAO Hwnrdr!
May 16th, 2012 at 11:01 am
Raider O Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 10:54 am
ODB,
Not me bro. I don’t travel east of Ohio (unless I’m traveling abroad).
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only a couple more hours drive east and you can hang out at the compound !!!
May 16th, 2012 at 11:01 am
375.R8ER MIKE Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 11:01 am
Raider O Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 10:54 am
ODB,
Not me bro. I don’t travel east of Ohio (unless I’m traveling abroad).
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only a couple more hours drive east and you can hang out at the compound !!!
WACO? Oh, you said East…lol
May 16th, 2012 at 11:02 am
I am talking with her to make it a family trip! I mean, it will be educational (somewhat) for the kids…just not sure about the situation back home!
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thats cool man. I was just busting your chops
May 16th, 2012 at 11:02 am
hwnrdr Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 10:59 am
LOL, its all good DMAC! Like I said, I like to see the Warriors do good!
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I always root for the west coast team anyday, but like I said a lot of peoples like to talk schit here, so I’m just returning the favor.
I was a big Shawn Kemp and the “glove” fan growing up though. The Supersonics were kind of my second team growing up as a youngster.
May 16th, 2012 at 11:02 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 10:44 am
La Canfora’s reporting that Reece now has CJ37’s agent. Wonderful
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@Duck
name of the agent, please?
as long as it isn’t Drew Rosenhaus we should be fine.
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Joel Segal.
May 16th, 2012 at 11:05 am
Shawn Kemp and the Glove were amazing to watch! Just like the others though…Barkley, Stockton, Malone…they ran into Jordan!
May 16th, 2012 at 11:05 am
LOL< actually I am talking with her to make it a family trip! I mean, it will be educational (somewhat) for the kids…just not sure about the situation back home!
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if thats a fact you gotta check out the Baltimore aquarium. place is bad azz !! and you dont have to be stoned to enjoy it !!
May 16th, 2012 at 11:05 am
RaiderDuck Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 11:02 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 10:44 am
La Canfora’s reporting that Reece now has CJ37’s agent. Wonderful
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@Duck
name of the agent, please?
as long as it isn’t Drew Rosenhaus we should be fine.
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Joel Segal.
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Steven Segal’s brother?
May 16th, 2012 at 11:05 am
I want to go to sooooo fk’n bad all Raidered out. Maybe we can hook up one day RaiderWabbit.
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that would be cool, DMAC.
I have a bunch of friends that try to get me to go with them to the Raider/Chiefs game in KC. They are fans of the squaws, naturally. They say, make sure you get all decked out in Raider gear… but if you get into a fight, we don’t know you!
haha, wusses
May 16th, 2012 at 11:06 am
hwnrdr Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 11:05 am
Shawn Kemp and the Glove were amazing to watch! Just like the others though…Barkley, Stockton, Malone…they ran into Jordan!
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Yeah that was def. nice to watch back then.
May 16th, 2012 at 11:06 am
RaiderDuck Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 10:42 am
And La Canfora’s reporting that Reece now has CJ37’s agent. Wonderful.
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RNS reported this weeks ago. Did he change agents again?!
May 16th, 2012 at 11:07 am
381.R8ER MIKE Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 11:05 am
LOL< actually I am talking with her to make it a family trip! I mean, it will be educational (somewhat) for the kids…just not sure about the situation back home!
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if thats a fact you gotta check out the Baltimore aquarium. place is bad azz !! and you dont have to be stoned to enjoy it !!
Also, I heard Philly and DC aint too far from there.
May 16th, 2012 at 11:08 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 10:59 am
are you in a band or play an instrument ??
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@Mike
does air guitar count?
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lol RRS.. dont think so.
reason i asked is my kid plays guitar and
wants to start a band. thought you might have some insite.
May 16th, 2012 at 11:08 am
ODB,
I love Ohio. CA is home, but Ohio is special. I enjoyed living/ being there more than CA, ME, and Europe.
O
H
I
O
OHIO!
May 16th, 2012 at 11:09 am
Mike, the compound would be educational right? You know, earth science?
May 16th, 2012 at 11:09 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 11:05 am
I want to go to sooooo fk’n bad all Raidered out. Maybe we can hook up one day RaiderWabbit.
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that would be cool, DMAC.
I have a bunch of friends that try to get me to go with them to the Raider/Chiefs game in KC. They are fans of the squaws, naturally. They say, make sure you get all decked out in Raider gear… but if you get into a fight, we don’t know you!
haha, wusses
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Yeah
I may need a little back-up w/ me for them drunk ass fools.
May 16th, 2012 at 11:12 am
I also lived in KY, I like it, but I love Ohio. I like the weather in CA, but I’m more comfortable in Ohio and the MW.
May 16th, 2012 at 11:12 am
I only lived in 3 places all my life…Hawaii, San Diego and the Bay!
May 16th, 2012 at 11:13 am
my kid plays guitar and
wants to start a band. thought you might have some insite
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@Mike
you might check with snb triple 6
I think Dell may also be involved in the music industry, as a side interest
thought DMAC & perhaps Beeeecham were in the hip hop arena
May 16th, 2012 at 11:14 am
So is PlunkettforHOF…he is up North in Reno!
May 16th, 2012 at 11:15 am
ODB,
Next time I visit Ohio, I will try to come see you and the compound, but I’m not watching the Golden Girls with you. LOL
May 16th, 2012 at 11:15 am
I also lived in KY, I like it
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O,
LOL! I knew you had a little redneck in ya
still planning a trip to MO, to plant & harvest some “crops” on my property down by the river?
May 16th, 2012 at 11:16 am
Good luck to all A’s pitchers.
Josh Hamilton is putting up unreal #’s right now.
Lets get em’.
May 16th, 2012 at 11:18 am
hwnrdr Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 11:12 am
I only lived in 3 places all my life…Hawaii, San Diego and the Bay!
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Nice!
May 16th, 2012 at 11:18 am
I’ve lived in all 4 time zones
May 16th, 2012 at 11:19 am
Quarterback Carson Palmer said both sides won when the Cincinnati Bengals traded him to the Oakland Raiders last season.
PalmerNot sure whether we should file this under “What did you really expect him to say” or “Players are sometimes delusional about their own situation.” Palmer made this comment when asked if he needed to patch things up with his former team.
“It was time to move on and it was time for them to move on,” Palmer said Monday on the Dan Patrick Show, “and they’re in a better place and I’m definitely in a better place.”
Palmer added, “I think in the years to come both organizations will look back and say this thing was the best thing to happen.”
It’s fair to say that Palmer’s time with the Bengals had run its course. But it’s inaccurate to say both organizations are happy with the results, at least based on last season.
The Bengals went to the playoffs with new quarterback Andy Dalton and received two additional draft picks (including cornerback Dre Kirkpatrick in the first round this year) in the deal with Oakland. Palmer ended up going 4-5 as the Raiders’ starter and lost the head coach (Hue Jackson) who spearheaded the move to get him to Oakland. The Bengals even ended up with Jackson as an assistant. Not sure how Palmer is counting, but this was a win-win-win for Cincinnati.
For Palmer to justify Oakland giving up a first-round pick in 2012 and a second-rounder in 2013, he has to do more than lead the Raiders to the playoffs. He has to win postseason games and a good number of them. Some might say Palmer would have to guide Oakland to the Super Bowl to validate what the Raiders gave up for him.
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Thoughts?
May 16th, 2012 at 11:20 am
Raider O Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 11:15 am
ODB,
Next time I visit Ohio, I will try to come see you and the compound, but I’m not watching the Golden Girls with you. LOL
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damn skippy you wont !! thats my private time !!!
lol lol lol lol
May 16th, 2012 at 11:21 am
Hwnrdr,
Can you live more inland, or do you need to be around the ocean? I like Mediterranean climate, so SD (depends where you live) and CA is perfect for me.
May 16th, 2012 at 11:21 am
and you are correct Hwnrdr, both D.C. and Philly are close enough to drive to.
May 16th, 2012 at 11:25 am
I lived in Oakland, Oakland, and Oakland.
May 16th, 2012 at 11:25 am
RR,
LOL
I like trucks, I used to hunt, I love guns, and I don’t like uninvited people on my property.
The Podunk Farms Project! lol
May 16th, 2012 at 11:26 am
O, I think I can adapt if needed, but being around the scenerey of the ocean all of my life, I can’t see living in the Mid West!
May 16th, 2012 at 11:27 am
Did Burris participate in the OTAs yesterday? I didn’t hear/ read anything about him.
May 16th, 2012 at 11:27 am
399.guest123 Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 11:18 am
I’ve lived in all 4 time zones
Cool! So Hawaiian, Pacific, Mountain, and Eastern?
May 16th, 2012 at 11:29 am
For Palmer to justify Oakland giving up a first-round pick in 2012 and a second-rounder in 2013, he has to do more than lead the Raiders to the playoffs. He has to win postseason games and a good number of them. Some might say Palmer would have to guide Oakland to the Super Bowl to validate what the Raiders gave up for him.
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@DMN
I would love to have Palmer lead us to a SB victory, as any Raider fan would. Is that a realistic expectation based upon our record the past 9 years? especially with a brand spanking new GM, HC & DC? I don’t think so. I’ll be pleased if we make the playoffs this year & next. 2014 we can hopefully make that leap. It’ll take Reggie a while to form “his team” , purging the dead weight, acquiring talent, developing players and getting the cap in order. Looking at the QB play we’ve had since Rich Gannon, I’ll gladly make that trade to Cincy again. You can’t win without a QB. Plus the Raiders haven’t hit on many 1st rounders in the past anyways.
May 16th, 2012 at 11:30 am
Hwnrdr,
People (in general) are more down to earth, friendly, polite, and no Fakers. Hard working and honest people.
Go Buckeyes!
May 16th, 2012 at 11:33 am
LOL, O, you had to throw that in, huh? Like I said, I could adapt if needed…I have family that live in Ohio. They got mad at me when I asked them if they were Bengals fans! But I know they are OSU fans as well! I also have a frined in Dayton! Pretty hot Asian living in the midwest I say!
May 16th, 2012 at 11:34 am
Don,
I’d like to hear more analysis of the Cutler deal as compared to Palmer.
TWO 1st. rounders, a 3rd AND a bonafide starter in Kyle Orton.
How many SB’s has Cutler won with the Bears so far?
Palmer has played half a season so far. Maybe he should be given a little more rope and see how it plays out over a period of time.
May 16th, 2012 at 11:36 am
Merrill Hoge is the 1st analyst i’ve heard predict the Raiders to win the west.
Maybe they will, maybe not, but a case can certainly be made.
May 16th, 2012 at 11:37 am
Lol, I’m hater Bro.
May 16th, 2012 at 11:40 am
I don’t think the two trades are similar, and that’s why people don’t talk about Cutler.
Cutler was 26 (in his prime), and Palmer was 32, retired, and his team moved forward with a new and capable QB.
May 16th, 2012 at 11:40 am
LOL, they also cursed me on FB when I posted about Michigan beating OSU…or when the Raiders beat the Browns last year!
May 16th, 2012 at 11:41 am
412.DJ Johnny Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 11:34 am
Don,
I’d like to hear more analysis of the Cutler deal as compared to Palmer.
TWO 1st. rounders, a 3rd AND a bonafide starter in Kyle Orton.
How many SB’s has Cutler won with the Bears so far?
Palmer has played half a season so far. Maybe he should be given a little more rope and see how it plays out over a period of time.
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Nice response.
May 16th, 2012 at 11:42 am
Why would you do that?
Damn you Mich!!!!!
May 16th, 2012 at 11:42 am
Ritchie’s ba-aack!!!
May 16th, 2012 at 11:43 am
418.Raider O Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 11:42 am
Why would you do that?
Damn you Mich!!!!!
Just to mess with them…or pay them back! LOL
May 16th, 2012 at 11:44 am
HEY HWNRDR,DID NOT GET TIX 4 A’S YANKS..IS THERE STIL A CHANCE U WILL GO? I MAY BUY IF SO..
May 16th, 2012 at 11:44 am
I don’t like the Browns’ draft. I like the RB, but I’m not sold on the 27/28 YO Rookie QB. The Browns are Ohio’s pro football team. The team can leave the citu/ state, but The Browns belong to Ohio.
May 16th, 2012 at 11:45 am
421.DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 11:44 am
HEY HWNRDR,DID NOT GET TIX 4 A’S YANKS..IS THERE STIL A CHANCE U WILL GO? I MAY BUY IF SO..
I still might…what day? Sunday, or Saturday? I have a feeling that Sunday I have already pre-planned stuff to do! When do you think the tickets will sell out?
May 16th, 2012 at 11:46 am
That is true, O! That is why it is always fun to watch the Browns/Ravens games!
May 16th, 2012 at 11:47 am
City*
How do you make wolverine Cookies? You put them in a bowl and beat them for 3 hours!
May 16th, 2012 at 11:48 am
THATS MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND..ANOTHER WEEKEND WOULD BE BETTER 4 ME.GRADUATION PARTY’S 2 ATTEND THAT WEEKKEND..
May 16th, 2012 at 11:50 am
LOL, O…I know you say that to Bo all the time. He is more of a fan of Mich then I am. I started liking them in the 80’s and really when C Wood was there. When he won the Heisman, I was hoping for Al to draft him. Anyways, I still follow them and always pray they have a good year, but will not get mad if they don’t! But for some reason, I do get upset when friggen Mich St wins!
May 16th, 2012 at 11:50 am
426.DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 11:48 am
THATS MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND..ANOTHER WEEKEND WOULD BE BETTER 4 ME.GRADUATION PARTY’S 2 ATTEND THAT WEEKKEND..
I know…when does Manny come back? I heard he’s going to the Minors for 10 days?
May 16th, 2012 at 11:51 am
I don’t like the Browns’ draft. I like the RB, but I’m not sold on the 27/28 YO Rookie QB. The Browns are Ohio’s pro football team. The team can leave the citu/ state, but The Browns belong to Ohio.
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Do you remember the Snickers’ commercial right after the Browns moved to Balitmore? Two dudes on the fifty yard line with an empty stadium and one friend asks the other friend how he got the tickets?
May 16th, 2012 at 11:52 am
Yo Nizzles
Got up nice and early today (10 mins ago) and got right to work on a serious PUMP UP jam for tonight’s Lake Show game vs The Drizzle
Check it -
Man, that last game was wack, The Beeech couldn’t bear it
Why is Perkin’s dome shaped like a carrot?
Are Westbrook and Durant gay, you got to wonder
Either way we gots to “Make the Thunder Blunder”*
*patent pending, you know how we do
May 16th, 2012 at 11:54 am
Manny is elgible to come back May 30
May 16th, 2012 at 11:56 am
Dutch,
No, remind me please. The only snickers’ commercial I remember is from a SB. The guy gets hit, goes the SL, and now he thinks he is Batman. lol
May 16th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
DHB regrets drunk-driving arrest
Speaking to the media for the first time since his drunk-driving arrest, Raiders wide receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey expressed remorse and regretted letting down his fans.
“I just kind of regret bringing bad attention to the team, for the most part. Want to let the fans know that I’m here, working hard, trying to get on the same page with Carson and looking forward to the season.”
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If I had a million bucks to spend, I would bet that DHB never makes the same mistake again ever.
May 16th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
I wanted us to draft Woodson too. Imagine of he went to the OSU. Him on Defense and David Boston on offense.
May 16th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
Lake Show needs to show up tonight
Cant go fishing with Golden State Flubs
May 16th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
Dutch,
No, remind me please. The only snickers’ commercial I remember is from a SB. The guy gets hit, goes the SL, and now he thinks he is Batman. lol
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In 1996, Snickers rolled out is “Not Going Anywhere for a While?” campaign including a spot featuring two bewildered football fans gazing out from their seats at an empty stadium. As the camera panned to the end zone, viewers see “Cleveland Browns” painted in orange and brown on the grass. Browns owner Art Modell, of course, had just relocated the team to Baltimore in one of the bitterest sports controversies in recent history. As it turned out, those Snickers-eating Browns fans would have four years on their hands.
May 16th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
Raiders in a 3-4? Kelly would accept NT
ALAMEDA — Stories of the Raiders switching things up defensively and moving to a 3-4 base have been floating since Dennis Allen was hired as head coach in January.
So when Allen intimated recently that veteran defensive tackle Tommy Kelly could be the nose tackle in such a scheme, such a possibility raised eyebrows. None more than on Kelly himself.
“If he sees (me being) a 3-4 nose, I ain’t trying to get that big,” Kelly said following the Raiders’ OTA practice on Tuesday. “I ain’t trying to gain all that weight. I’ve done went through that, being 340, 350 pounds. That really ain’t my cup of tea. I ain’t trying to gain all that weight.”
Two years ago, Kelly dropped upwards of 35 pounds and the weight loss, along with the 2009 arrival of Richard Seymour, hastened Kelly’s maturation. And while Seymour has been named to the past two Pro Bowls, many observers feel as though Kelly, who is now listed at 6-foot-6, 300 pounds, has actually outplayed his defensive line mate. Kelly has 14 1/2 sacks the past two seasons combined, with an interception and fumble recovery last year.
In fact, both players have the same number of sacks — 15 1/2 — since Seymour arrived in Oakland.
Kelly has played for almost as many head coaches in Oakland since catching on as an undrafted free agent out of Mississippi State in 2004 in Norv Turner, Art Shell, Lane Kiffin, Tom Cable, Hue Jackson and now, Allen.
It’s a new era with the passing last October of Al Davis and a new general manager in Reggie McKenzie.
“It’s different,” Kelly said. “Al D. was almost hands on with everything. He was very involved with every decision and now it’s a chain of command. Coach Allen, I think will be good for us to have a defensive head coach. He’s going to pay attention to us and he’s going to make sure defense is almost the first priority.
“Our offense is pretty much set. We (are the) side of the ball that probably needs the most work.”
Which brings us full circle to the possibility of Kelly lining up at nose tackle in a 3-4 scheme.
“It ain’t about what I think,” he said, backing off a but from his initial semi-protest. “It’s whatever they pay me to do at the time. I will do it to the best of my ability. I played nose when (Warren) Sapp was here. It ain’t nothing. When you play defensive tackle, ain’t really no difference between the nose and the three-technique. You both getting double-teamed. (Shoot), we’re getting the same blocks so it really don’t matter.”
Still, many players blanch at the idea of moving to nose.
“Because they probably ain’t that physical, mentally,” Kelly said. “You know what I am saying? To play D-tackle, you have to be a little crazy, because you’re going to get hit. It’s different than playing outside where you might get a little air and have some freedom to do something. You don’t got no freedom when you’re inside. You’re always going to get hit. Somebody’s going to hit you from the right side, or from the left side, or down the middle. Every play.
“So you really have to have your mind frame right and tell yourself that you have to put your body on everything moving. As long as you have the mentality, you’ll be all right.”
Now Kelly was rolling. Asked if he was a good crazy or bad crazy, Kelly smiled.
“Good crazy,” he said. “Crazy like a fox.”
Fair enough, so who’s bad crazy?
“Ron Artest,” Kelly said of the Los Angeles Lakers’ Metta World Peace. “I ain’t trying to kill nobody, but I am definitely trying to make my presence felt out there.”
Especially if he has to play a little nose tackle.
May 16th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
Dutch,
LOL
I like their commercials.
May 16th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
Yo Bros, huge day for my hot new boy band, 2 Kewl 4 Skool
The Certified Platinum Posse flew in Yamasuki, a legendary hairdressing guru from Japan, to style our pubes using the latest techniques from The Orient
When he’s done we’ll do some pube press photos and send them off to the major magazines and news outlets around the globe
This will assure us some huge dates on our world tour. Now all my super group needs is some actual music, wizzle
May 16th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
“If he sees (me being) a 3-4 nose, I ain’t trying to get that big,” Kelly said following the Raiders’ OTA practice on Tuesday. “I ain’t trying to gain all that weight. I’ve done went through that, being 340, 350 pounds. That really ain’t my cup of tea. I ain’t trying to gain all that weight.”
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Kelly doesn’t want to be a 3-4 NT, eh?
sounds like Albert Haynesworth!
May 16th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
Vittorio Tafur @VittorioTafur
Video of Rolando McClain incident surfaces http://bit.ly/L7itj6
May 16th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
Nice post DMac…as usual.
May 16th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
RaiderWabbit
He also said “It ain’t about what I think,” he said, backing off a but from his initial semi-protest. “It’s whatever they pay me to do at the time. I will do it to the best of my ability.”
May 16th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
Anytime man
May 16th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
“It’s whatever they pay me to do at the time. I will do it to the best of my ability. I played nose when (Warren) Sapp was here. It ain’t nothing. When you play defensive tackle, ain’t really no difference between the nose and the three-technique. You both getting double-teamed. (Shoot), we’re getting the same blocks so it really don’t matter.” – TK
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no difference between 4-3 UT & NT, eh?
ROG may have something to say about this!
May 16th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
So Beetch, how do the Lackers respond from a 30 point drubbing by OKC? Rather if you are going to be that dominated and humiliated, what exactly is the strategy to come back with?
May 16th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
no matter what happens tonight, if the Lakers fall to 0-2 in the series … you can bet on Brown & Bryant calling out somebody
either Blake & Sessions, or Bynum & Gasol.
Heck, maybe all 4 of them!!
Lakers aren’t a team. they like to throw people under the bus & point fingers, which spreads dysfunction & animosity like wildfire
May 16th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
Are there any OTAs today?
May 16th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
@hippie
I don’t like Kelly’s attitude, saying “I don’t want to play nose … but I’ll do it as long as they are paying me”
sounds like a check casher to me. doesn’t sound like a guy who will lose any sleep if a team runs for 150+ against us.
May 16th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
the vids of the McClain incident leak out, wow…
http://www.decaturdaily.com/stories/Video-of-McClain-incident-surfaces,95862
May 16th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
JLofty Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
So Beetch, how do the Lackers respond from a 30 point drubbing by OKC? Rather if you are going to be that dominated and humiliated, what exactly is the strategy to come back with?
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Yo, the Purple & Gold gots to go with match ups, can’t be successful against their athleticism
Gasol v Ibaka – Gasol works him inside and in the post for 18 and 8
Bynum v Perkins – If Bynum doesn’t discover his dominance we’re finished. Needs 24 and 14
Kobe v Anyone – Kobe doesn’t need 40, but must dominate the 2nd going into halftime and the 4th to close it out
Artest keep Durant under 30 and somehow Sessions and Blake contain Westbrook, although we don’t really have anyone who can stop him
This season the Lake Show has been successful late in games V the Drizzle, so gots to keep it close into the 4th
BRINGING SHOWTIME BACK HOME TIED 1-1 WIZZLE
May 16th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
@hippie
I don’t like Kelly’s attitude, saying “I don’t want to play nose … but I’ll do it as long as they are paying me”
sounds like a check casher to me. doesn’t sound like a guy who will lose any sleep if a team runs for 150+ against us.
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I agree
May 16th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
May 16th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
@hippie
I don’t like Kelly’s attitude, saying “I don’t want to play nose … but I’ll do it as long as they are paying me”
sounds like a check casher to me. doesn’t sound like a guy who will lose any sleep if a team runs for 150+ against us.
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Have to agree with this. He mentions money first and not the success of the team. Great point, RR.
May 16th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
I agree with RR. TK doesn’t want to play NT.
May 16th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
new post