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Judge: McClain guilty on all counts; sentenced to 180 days in jail

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, May 17th, 2012 at 1:13 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Raiders middle linebacker Rolando McClain was found guilty Thursday of assault, reckless endangerment, menacing and wrongful discharge of a firearm by a Decatur (Ala.) Municipal Court judge, the television station WHNT-19 reported.

McClain was sentenced to 180 days in jail. It’s unclear how much of that time he actually will serve in jail. He was released on bond and will appeal the ruling, according to his lawyer.

The Raiders issued the following statement, in a press release:

“The Raiders are well aware of the proceedings in the Alabama courts today. The team will continue to closely monitor the legal process, understanding that when appropriate the NFL will review the situation under its personal conduct policy.”

Earlier in the day, Jaradious Williams, the co-defendant along with McClain in the case, pleaded guilty to 90 days in jail and approximately $300 in fines and testified against McClain.

McClain can appeal the verdict to a Circuit Court, which would include a jury trial.

McClain’s lawyer, Harvey Steinberg said of the ruling, “This is meaningless. We get a jury trial. Most lawyers say, ‘Let’s stipulate and start all over.’ I wanted to put this on so we could show how ridiculous this entire situation is. It truly is. There’s no basis for it.

“Our feeling was that we should go through it so we could put out there that Rolando did very little, if anything, wrong. He certainly didn’t do anything criminal. He ceertainly didn’t do anything wrong. This was the only procedure we had to follow other than doing the stipulation so we could get a trial to a jury. By doing it this way, we wanted to put out there the fact that this is a case we would humbly suggest is much ado about nothing.”

The conviction stems from an incident Nov. 30, with the victim, Rishard Tapscott, the victim of an alleged assault. Tapscott said McClain threatened to kill him and put a gun next to his ear and fired it.

McClain was in Alabama at the time attending the funeral of a relative.

He could also face discipline from the NFL and the Raiders for violation of the league’s personal conduct policy.

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1,350 Responses to “Judge: McClain guilty on all counts; sentenced to 180 days in jail”

  1. guest123 Says:

    Cut him!

  2. hwnrdr Says:

    Oh well

  3. John David Booty Says:

    All McClain got was 180 days. Half a year for firing a gun near a mans head. I got people in prison doing far longer for lesser crimes. Not complaining, Im well aware of how the game works. Just still never fails to amaze me how things operate.

  4. RaiderDuck Says:

    50-50 that Reggie’s got people looking at McBusto’s contract right now, seeing if we can cut him “for cause” and thus not take any cap hit.

  5. KoolKell Says:

    Ghetto Gravity is hard to escape.

  6. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Raiders’ Hue Jackson supports Rolando McClain

    Based on the information he has on linebacker Rolando McClain’s arrest in Alabama last week, Raiders head coach Hue Jackson said Monday that he didn’t think a suspension by the NFL would be justified.

    Jackson admitted his decision to let McClain play Sunday in the Raiders’ 34-14 loss in Miami was “a close call for me. Very close.”

    The NFL is conducting an investigation of Wednesday’s incident in which McClain allegedly put a gun to a former high school basketball teammate’s head and fired a shot past his ear. The linebacker was arrested Thursday on misdemeanor assault, firearms and other charges in his hometown of Decatur, Ala. McClain declined to comment Monday.

    Jackson and several players said McClain’s troubles were not a distraction for the team and had nothing to do with the one-sided loss to the Dolphins. Miami had a 34-0 lead before the Raiders scored two touchdowns in the fourth quarter.

    When all the facts in the case are known, Jackson said, “I think maybe … we’ll all feel different about it.”

    Initially, Jackson had expressed disappointment in McClain’s conduct, but after talking to him and conducting his own “fact-finding,” he said he thought McClain was caught in the wrong place “at the wrong time.”

    If the NFL suspends the second-year linebacker, who played on Alabama’s 2009 national championship team and was the eighth pick in the 2010 draft, Jackson said he would “come down hard” on him because “that would mean that someone’s not being truthful.”

    In the meantime, he said, “I’m taking a stand behind my player.”

    There’s no telling how soon the NFL will rule on McClain. In an e-mail, league spokesman Greg Aiello said, “We are monitoring the law enforcement investigation. Our timetable will depend on the outcome of that.”

    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/12/05/SPV71M8NDE.DTL

  7. hwnrdr Says:

    Pretty sad that he is still a youngster and pretty much ruined his life! But, it is what it is!

  8. Seymour Bush Says:

    davidon Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 1:15 pm

    They should put a jail clause in contracts..
    =============================

    I am sure there already is. If McLain cannot perform on his contractual duties, I am sure the Raiders are not going to pay him. Nor have to. And I do not think this will count against the cap.

  9. realtruraider Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 1:03 pm
    @Bcz

    got that list of available MLB’s ??

    Keith Brooking would be a good fit imo.

    Dennis Allen knows him from Atlanta!
    —————————————————

    Whats his age? I wonder if he has anything left

  10. M Lonetree Says:

    send McWorthless to Huebris and Burfict for a steam tray of 3-way Cincinnati chili.

  11. hwnrdr Says:

    Good point Seymour!

  12. guest123 Says:

    Hue: Rolando McClain is no longer your concern. Shagging practice balls and shuttling water buckets for the Bengals secondary is your priority.

  13. ELWAYs TEETH Says:

    Another great opportunity for Reggie to purge this team of all the Dumbasses. Get rid of this loser, he’s just too stupid to play for The Oakland Raiders. Good Riddance Thug Boy.

  14. KoolKell Says:

    He’ll probably appeal, and be available. But, he’ll get a NFL suspension anyway.

  15. realtruraider Says:

    I don’t think Reggie and DA are happy about this, they now have to find a starting MLB

  16. SR Raider Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
    If McLain cannot perform on his contractual duties, I am sure the Raiders are not going to pay him. Nor have to. And I do not think this will count against the cap.
    ================

    Good point. This could actually turn out for the best, by allowing the Raiders to bring in some new LB’s. Defense can’t be much worse than last year regardless

  17. RaiderRockstar Says:

    If the NFL suspends the second-year linebacker, Jackson said he would “come down hard” on him because “that would mean that someone’s not being truthful.”

    ***

    I don’t think McGunshots is getting a Christmas card from Hue Jax this year!

  18. HonkeyT Says:

    I would like to think he would learn from this and not only be a good Football player but person as well. I just don’t think it happens and IMO he needs to go.

  19. guest123 Says:

    Ball’s in Reggie’s court. If he does the right thing, we’ve seen the last of Rolando McClain in silver & black. Even if we take a cap hit, the morale would skyrocket.

  20. M Lonetree Says:

    It wasn’t exactly as if McGuilty provided any game-winning plays for the Raiders.
    He has been more often than not in the “menace to victory” category.

  21. RaiderRockstar Says:

    if McClain lied to Hue Jackson about what happened, don’t you think he probably lied to Reggie McKenzie & Dennis Allen about it, too ??

  22. davidon Says:

    I don’t think Reggie and DA are happy about this, they now have to find a starting MLB

    *********************************************

    At least it did’nt happen in the middle of the season..they have time to adjust/plan

  23. McFaddens_Sneakers Says:

    Why does everybody in here acts like they never been pushed to the edge and snapped. dud got an ass whopping he probably deserved we dont know the story behind the crime. Its just messed up that his homie is testifying agains him just to cut his sentence in half. Give rolando a chance this coaching staff might get the best out of him.

  24. hwnrdr Says:

    And again, funny how one person threatens a guys life, even firing a “warning shot” if you may, gets 180 days in jail, while a dog fighter gets 18 months! Sometimes I wonder what the law protects more…animals or humans?
    Just saying!

  25. RaiderRockstar Says:

    He has been more often than not in the “menace to victory” category

    ***

    M Lonetree = money !!

  26. davidon Says:

    JUN cuts coming up as well

  27. joker94583 Says:

    Al is gone but his decisions will continue to haunt the Raiders. No matter what happens I assume Reggie and D.A. will cut this punk ass loser. Hopefully, anyway. The need regime ain’t playing and besides there is always PHI, CIN and DAL. They love them some thugs. Buh bye Slow-lando. Enjoy Al’s money. What a waste of human flesh.

  28. guest123 Says:

    McClain’s not a very good liar. Or a good criminal. He should consider another line of work he is actually good at.

  29. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Sometimes I wonder what the law protects more…animals or humans?

    ***

    @hwnrdr

    we agree on this!

  30. davidon Says:

    McClain’s not a very good liar. Or a good criminal. He should consider another line of work he is actually good at.
    ******************************************

    He can open a nail salon w Hue

  31. RaidingTexas Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:

    I am sure there already is. If McLain cannot perform on his contractual duties, I am sure the Raiders are not going to pay him. Nor have to. And I do not think this will count against the cap.

    ———————————–

    I think you’re correct on that. Let’s hope he loses any appeals and is sitting behind bars by week 1. I’d rather the Raiders not pay 1st round salary for 5th round talent.

  32. RaiderRockstar Says:

    McClain’s not a very good liar. Or a good criminal. He should consider another line of work he is actually good at

    ***

    @G123

    the whole football thing didn’t work out so well for him, either. at least he got paid!!

    another 1st round bust, courtesy of Al Davis

  33. guest123 Says:

    So, Burris or Goethel? I got my dough riding on Burris. Huge learning curve at this level, but his motor will make up for a lot.

  34. guest123 Says:

    RRS, agreed. Now in retrospect I understand Reggies rush to purge the coaching staff. Heads had to roll for this. Reggie knew this was going to happen.

  35. RaiderRockstar Says:

    cough cough

    we could have just kept Kirk Morrison, traded down and drafted NT Dan Williams (Tennessee)

    run = stuffed

  36. SR Raider Says:

    Raiders gotta bring at least one more body in for competition. Not sure who will become available, but Reggie will be looking

  37. John David Booty Says:

    I think the only way we even consider not cutting McClain is if he was a good player for us. He was not even close. Hope he gets his head and life together, as a human being, but as a football player, I already barely wanted him on my team just due to his performance. Its unfortunate that we wasted another 1st round pick, but its not like its going to be hard to replace his production. We thought we might be getting a Patrick Willis type defensive anchor,instead, we got Napolean Harris. Time to move on and see who our MLB will be this season.

  38. Breaking_Black Says:

    hwnrdr Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 1:24 pm

    And again, funny how one person threatens a guys life, even firing a “warning shot” if you may, gets 180 days in jail, while a dog fighter gets 18 months! Sometimes I wonder what the law protects more…animals or humans?
    Just saying

    ————
    Animals obviously. That’s why they only gave it 180 days.

  39. RaiderRockstar Says:

    This will really test Reggie & Dennis, who have made the Raiders new motto “honesty, trust and accountability”. We drafted a bunch of choir boys.

    What kind of message does that send to the team, if you don’t practice what you preach?

    I think the Raiders need to make an example of McClain …

    I’m willing to bet he lied to them, like he lied to Hue Jackson and they backed him (like Hue did) assuming he was telling the truth – which obviously he wasn’t

  40. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Where do I go to snitch on DMAC and Condo?

  41. RaiderRockstar Says:

    We thought we might be getting a Patrick Willis type defensive anchor,instead, we got Napolean Harris

    ***

    @JDB

    we needed a Ray Lewis, but we got a black Ricky Brown!

  42. guest123 Says:

    Don’t underestimate the power of the SPCA, turtle society, audubon society, etc. You got some serious wackos with politcal clout and torturing/killing animals is 10 times worse than offenses against humans. In that sense RoMac got lucky.

  43. DutchRaider77 Says:

    McClain’s attorney, Harvey Steinberg, said McClain has filed a request for a jury trial and now, under state law, “the process starts all over again.”

    Steinberg said he and McClain will be notified at a later date as to when the jury trial will begin.

  44. HairyBush Says:

    I rememeber McClains college coach going on and on how smart Rolando is. Well, If that is a smart guy I hate to see stupid.

  45. M Lonetree Says:

    who knew that a local judge in Alabama would be a Raider fan?
    after watching #55 continually shoot the wrong gap while defending any running play for Oaktown, the judge could only conclude that McUseless actually intended to shoot his victim but he failed as miserably as he would any given Sunday.

  46. guest123 Says:

    Wonder if McClain is actually stupid enough to go after his homies who betrayed him in court. Will he seek retribution, consequences be damned?

  47. crister Says:

    Wow, so I guess coach jackson is finally going to come down really hard on him huh?

    Oh wait… Never mind…

  48. Seymour Bush Says:

    Breaking_Black Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 1:32 pm

    hwnrdr Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 1:24 pm

    And again, funny how one person threatens a guys life, even firing a “warning shot” if you may, gets 180 days in jail, while a dog fighter gets 18 months! Sometimes I wonder what the law protects more…animals or humans?
    Just saying

    ————
    Animals obviously. That’s why they only gave it 180 days.
    ====================================================

    The issue with Vick was not only cruelty to animals but he was running a criminal enterprise which included gambling and money laundering. That’s why the hefty sentence.

  49. RaiderDuck Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 1:35 pm
    We thought we might be getting a Patrick Willis type defensive anchor,instead, we got Napolean Harris

    ***

    @JDB

    we needed a Ray Lewis, but we got a black Ricky Brown!

    =============================================

    We needed Ray Lewis but got Brian Bosworth, only with even worse character.

  50. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    The first good Alabaman Raider will be our last.

    Not that the Snake wasn’t human….

  51. hwnrdr Says:

    Yeah true, Guest…however, let one of those fairies get attacked by a pitbull and see how fast they change their opinion!

  52. R8ER MIKE Says:

    LMFAO M Lonetree !!!

  53. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I think Reggie might just dump #55 and pull off some crazy trade (not including draft picks) to get a new starting MLB.

    It seems we have a plethora of good WR’s – still wouldn’t surprise me to see Ford and/or Murphy traded with the emergence of guys like Criner, McGee, Calhoun & Streater.

  54. guest123 Says:

    lol @45. yes, I can see that conclusion too.

  55. SR Raider Says:

    Vick was also interstate organized crime over a long period of time. Big difference

  56. nycraider Says:

    Jerry, remember how you were on the Roslugo train before the draft . bet you wont write about that..

  57. hwnrdr Says:

    43.DutchRaider77 Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 1:36 pm
    McClain’s attorney, Harvey Steinberg, said McClain has filed a request for a jury trial and now, under state law, “the process starts all over again.”

    Steinberg said he and McClain will be notified at a later date as to when the jury trial will begin.

    Oh oh…My Cousin Vinny comes to mind!

  58. R8ER MIKE Says:

    HairyBush Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
    I rememeber McClains college coach going on and on how smart Rolando is. Well, If that is a smart guy I hate to see stupid.

    ****************
    uummm i think we drafted that guy in the first round too. only he was from LSU !!

  59. RaiderRockstar Says:

    where are Jhill & JFB?

    I thought they were going to greet us with a fresh pitcher of Kool-Aid following the judges ruling ???

  60. RaiderDuck Says:

    Hwnrdr Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
    43.DutchRaider77 Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 1:36 pm
    McClain’s attorney, Harvey Steinberg, said McClain has filed a request for a jury trial and now, under state law, “the process starts all over again.”

    Steinberg said he and McClain will be notified at a later date as to when the jury trial will begin.

    Oh oh…My Cousin Vinny comes to mind!

    =============================================

    I’m sure the two yutes will be the star witnesses again…

  61. nycraider Says:

    Rolando should have had his mom represent him. according to her he’s never done anything wrong

  62. hwnrdr Says:

    “Everything that guy just said was bullsh__!” LOL

  63. HairyBush Says:

    R8ER MIKE Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 1:41 pm
    HairyBush Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
    I rememeber McClains college coach going on and on how smart Rolando is. Well, If that is a smart guy I hate to see stupid.

    ****************
    uummm i think we drafted that guy in the first round too. only he was from LSU !!
    —————–
    that sounds about right!

  64. MikieG Says:

    I don’t think his career is over, however, there is quite a bit of tape on this guy now, and he ain’t lookin as good as he did when he was playing with Bama’….
    Somebody will give him another shot after he gets cut by us for cause, and it will be for the minimum..
    What an incredibly stupid idiot…
    Its one thing to beat the crap out of someone if they deserve it…quite another to bring lethal force to the party and expect people to turn a blind eye to it..
    We have all done stupid things at the age of 22 or 23, but this is beyond stupid…it shows an utter lack of self awareness.

  65. RaiderRockstar Says:

    McClain just got a call from the UFL.

  66. hwnrdr Says:

    60.RaiderDuck Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
    Hwnrdr Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
    43.DutchRaider77 Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 1:36 pm
    McClain’s attorney, Harvey Steinberg, said McClain has filed a request for a jury trial and now, under state law, “the process starts all over again.”

    Steinberg said he and McClain will be notified at a later date as to when the jury trial will begin.

    Oh oh…My Cousin Vinny comes to mind!

    =============================================

    I’m sure the two yutes will be the star witnesses again…

    Ahhh, what is a yute? LOL

  67. KoolKell Says:

    The age of 22 is no excuse, particularly when guns are involved.

  68. M Lonetree Says:

    watching McFailure close one on one with an RB catching a pass in the flat was kinda like watching Ben Wallace shoot a free throw.
    you could hope it might catch a bit of the rim, or brush the net, but an air ball was most likely and it sure as hell wasn’t gonna be good.

  69. Breaking_Black Says:

    HairyBush Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 1:37 pm

    I rememeber McClains college coach going on and on how smart Rolando is. Well, If that is a smart guy I hate to see stupid
    ——

    The crimson tide measure players’ intelligence on a scale of 1 to Alabama.

  70. RaiderDoc Says:

    Not a “PETA” guy by any measure but for all the animal vs human commenters I might remind you the dogS are dead, the human in this case at least mearly gained a pair of brown pants. Just sayin’

  71. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Down the Crimson Tydee Bowl…

  72. DutchRaider77 Says:

    The issue with Vick was not only cruelty to animals but he was running a criminal enterprise which included gambling and money laundering. That’s why the hefty sentence.

    __________________________________________________

    I have no hard feelings against Vick, paid for the crime he committed and do feel he was made an example of.

    But he was pretty stupid! Supposedly Tagliabue, the NFL commisioner told Vick he heard that he was fighting dogs. Vick said he didn’t do that anymore. That would be my wake-up call that everyone knows you are fighting dogs and you are going to get busted!

  73. guest123 Says:

    Give Burris #55 jersey and assign McClain a camp body number.

  74. YoungAmerican Says:

    I wish I could remember who it was who told me there was “no way” McClain was going to see any time in jail.

  75. guest123 Says:

    The good news for Raider fans is that it’s not like McClain’s level of play can’t be easily replaced. If his play last year set the bar, pretty much any street free agent will do.

  76. M Lonetree Says:

    BoSJack,

    no more McMenacestovictory.

  77. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    KrappyRat, in related news

    A dude in Michigan found a finger in his Arby’s sandwich! Guess you’ll have to find a new joint to take KrappyWife for your next anniversary

    Ah, I forgot, you’ll be spending it blogging

    Sweeeet!

  78. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Give Burris #55 jersey and assign McClain a camp body number

    ***

    @G123

    re-sign Sam Williams and give him #55

    you won’t even notice McClain is missing!

  79. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Appeal it, and do the time next offseason.

    The court will have to work it in around our playoff schedule!!!

  80. M Lonetree Says:

    Guest123,

    you nailed it.

  81. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Put Condo at mlb, duh. Guy is a “pro bowler”

    Hahahahahahahaha

  82. RaiderRockstar Says:

    The good news for Raider fans is that it’s not like McClain’s level of play can’t be easily replaced. If his play last year set the bar, pretty much any street free agent will do.

    ***

    but but but

    he was injured last year and he was still better than Blackstock!!

    WHHHAAAA WHHHAAA WWWHHHHAAAA !!!!!!!!!!!

  83. John David Booty Says:

    I think its safe to say that Jamarcus ended up being more productive than McClain. McClain never showed anything to really get excited about, aside from an occasional tipped pass. I propose that if healthy, Goethel could have had comparable production to McClain over the last 2 seasons. I also propose that you may be able to stick a 7th rounder, ie Nathan Stupar, in McClains place, and still get comparable, if not better, production.

    And for the record, Morrison was MILES better on the field than McClain. Its not even debatable. McClains best season is still not up to par with Morrisons least productive season in Oakland.

  84. SR Raider Says:

    No mo slo ro

  85. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Who would have thought it would be McClain’s inability to keep his hanger-oners in check that would be his demise?

    Fire Jaradious!!!!

  86. LBRAIDERS Says:

    I have a MacDumf— kids jersey for sale free

  87. YoungAmerican Says:

    Curry at WLB, Wheeler at ILB, Burris at SLB?

  88. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Put Condo at mlb

    ***

    he has drawn comparisons to Brian Urlacher

  89. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Yeah but Kirk would ENJOY prison, if u get my drift…

  90. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Source?

  91. Just Fire Baby Says:

    My last two Raider jerseys:

    -Jabustus
    -McBustus

    I never thought after the Jamarcus debacle, that any other jersey I purchased would find a way to one-up the Chosen One.

    But never underestimate Al’s ability to take a flyer on a complete headcase I guess.

    You win Rolando. Well played.

  92. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I think its safe to say that Jamarcus ended up being more productive than McClain

    ***

    Ouch, JDB!!

    any response JFB ?

  93. KoolKell Says:

    McClain pulled a gun, and fired next to someone’s head, and half the people in here a whining about snitches.

    Then wonder why black kids are shooting each other to pieces every damned day in Oakland.

  94. RaiderRockstar Says:

    for the record, Morrison was MILES better on the field than McClain. Its not even debatable. McClains best season is still not up to par with Morrisons least productive season in Oakland

    ***

    thank you!!

    I said this BEFORE we drafted #55

  95. guest123 Says:

    @JFB

    Please keep us posted on the next S&B jersey you buy. TIA

  96. Hot Shot Says:

    How much of a cap hit is it to cut MCcstupid.We don,t need punks like that on the team.Thats why Reggie picks football players with value not people who want to act like punks.People like that hurt your football team.Cut Him.

  97. DutchRaider77 Says:

    @Just Fire Baby
    Yeah, maybe you should just buy a throwback Jersey this year…

  98. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    My last jersey was Southwick.

    Battin 1000!

  99. RaiderRockstar Says:

    wonder why black kids are shooting each other to pieces every damned day in Oakland.

    ***

    just black kids, Kell?

    thats pretty stereotypical.. come on now

  100. RaiderDoc Says:

    @justfire. Lol. Yeah a, got my wife a number 2… And my most recent is an (Aso 21, still love him, but sucks)… So for now on I am sticking to old school… Waste of money these days to buy a current player even if you think it’s a franchise lifer.

  101. guest123 Says:

    Ya know, the reason they had a lockout and created war last year was because of headcase Guaranteed contracts like McFckup.

  102. RaiderRockstar Says:

    @JFB

    steer clear of Palmer, McFadden & DHB jerseys

    please & thank you!!

  103. jraider Says:

    cut him!

  104. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    Rolando came to a Beeech Diggity Penthouse Jammy Jam when he first got drafted and made a fool of himself

    Got wasted on Bud Light, ate 3lbs of cole slaw then tried to make love to one of my bean bags

    Ended up taking the beanbag to Tijuana where they unofficially tied the knot, gots to keep it real

  105. LBRAIDERS Says:

    He just requested a jury trial he’s going to take it to the box….

  106. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    KK, snitching on an anonymous commenter who called your wife Aunt Esther ain’t gonna clean up the streets of Alamedaville.

  107. realtruraider Says:

    McClain pulled a gun, and fired next to someone’s head, and half the people in here a whining about snitches.

    Then wonder why black kids are shooting each other to pieces every damned day in Oakland.
    ——————————————————-

    Its more about who snitched and why, but you obviously won’t ever understand that

  108. KoolKell Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 1:58 pm

    wonder why black kids are shooting each other to pieces every damned day in Oakland.

    ***

    just black kids, Kell?

    thats pretty stereotypical.. come on now
    ———————————————–
    Ghetto Gravity, similar to Podunk Gravity.

  109. guest123 Says:

    Another first round bust and the talking breathing mouths at BSPN are going to have a field day laughing at the Raiders.

  110. KoolKell Says:

    Realtruraider Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 2:02 pm

    McClain pulled a gun, and fired next to someone’s head, and half the people in here a whining about snitches.

    Then wonder why black kids are shooting each other to pieces every damned day in Oakland.
    ——————————————————-

    Its more about who snitched and why, but you obviously won’t ever understand that
    ==========================================
    BS, it’s about criminal assault.

  111. guest123 Says:

    When they do their preseason predictions for the AFC West, they won’t mention the developing WR corps, CP3 fresh, DMC healthy, new disciplined coaching staff.

    They are going to focus all their attention to guys like Rolando McClain and talk about Raider dysfunction. Rebuilding disaster year ahead. That’s what you can expect.

  112. RaiderRockstar Says:

    He just requested a jury trial he’s going to take it to the box

    ***

    Anybody think Reggie & Dennis will give him a pass until this final decision has been made?

  113. Thec Says:

    BRL > McCheese….At least BRL kept himself out of jail.

    McCheese = currently dumbest professional athelete

  114. Thec Says:

    guest123 Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
    When they do their preseason predictions for the AFC West, they won’t mention the developing WR corps, CP3 fresh, DMC healthy, new disciplined coaching staff.

    They are going to focus all their attention to guys like Rolando McClain and talk about Raider dysfunction. Rebuilding disaster year ahead. That’s what you can expect.

    ++++++

    colin cowherd said today that only 2 bad teams in the NFL, browns and RAIDERS.

  115. DMAC Says:

    Reggie,

    Get on the phone and see whats up w/ EJ Henderson.
    Isn’t he still a FA? Is he hurt?

  116. KoolKell Says:

    Anybody think Reggie & Dennis will give him a pass until this final decision has been made?
    —————————————
    The NFL won’t.

  117. DMAC Says:

    So when will Romac be eligible to come back and play for the Bungholes?

  118. realtruraider Says:

    guest123 Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 2:03 pm
    Another first round bust and the talking breathing mouths at BSPN are going to have a field day laughing at the Raiders.
    ——————————————————-

    Haven’t heard anything yet, kinda surprised

  119. Thec Says:

    DMAC Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 2:08 pm
    So when will Romac be eligible to come back and play for the Bungholes?

    +++++++++

    2013

  120. DMAC Says:

    Thec Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 2:09 pm

    DMAC Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 2:08 pm
    So when will Romac be eligible to come back and play for the Bungholes?

    +++++++++

    2013
    ============

    That seems just about right.

  121. Plunketthead Says:

    firebaby

    Do like me and get a TP jersey. The next great Raider

    They should release a Al Davis jersey, maybe #1

  122. jraider Says:

    I like the Reggie includes personality traits on/off the field when evaluating talent – when Al could care less.
    Goofs like this, and Jamarcus, could have been avoided!
    He’s just another guy that got his payday, and shut it down.

    I say trade him for a bag of new footballs, and show the team he means what he says.

  123. guest123 Says:

    Thec,

    It sucks to have to hear it. We know this is a team capable of winning the AFC West, but the pundits are rolling their eyes at us. We are looked at as the same old Raiders. Nothing changed. Respect level if anything has dropped from the days of Hue Jackson. That’s so twisted, I know. So wrong in so many ways. But it’s reality.

  124. Thec Says:

    JFB, do not get a TP jersey…. We all know what happens when you get a jersey.

  125. realtruraider Says:

    Thec

    Cowherd’s boyfriend is Lance, so he loves getting us Raider fans blood boiling

  126. DutchRaider77 Says:

    CBS Thinks…

    If MLB Rolando McClain, who was sentenced to 180 days in jail on Thursday and fined $2,000 by a municipal court judge in Decatur, Ala., misses part or all of the upcoming season, then Travis Goethel will likely get the first crack at replacing him in the starting lineup. Goethel, who missed last season with a knee injury, worked with the first team this week during OTAs. Rookie LB Nathan Stupar, a seventh-round pick from Penn State, is also working inside. McClain was found guilty on all charges stemming from an altercation in November.

  127. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Get on the phone and see whats up w/ EJ Henderson.
    Isn’t he still a FA? Is he hurt?

    ***

    @DMAC

    http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/1177/ej-henderson

    31 years old. 109 tackles last year with 2 sacks, 3 passes defensed & 3 forced fumbles

    active in all 16 games last year, starting 14 of them

  128. toolnutz Says:

    guest123 Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 1:25 pm

    McClain’s not a very good liar. Or a good criminal. He should consider another line of work he is actually good at.

    ================================

    And he’s a mediocre MLB

  129. John David Booty Says:

    Our starting MLB this season will be:

    A) Travis Goethel
    B) Nathan Stupar
    C) Miles Burris
    D) Not yet on team

  130. da trinity Says:

    No fair, I didn’t get an invitation to the Mclain Roast.

  131. Thec Says:

    guest123,

    the great thing about that reality is most wil buy it.
    Then when we crack heads it will be like OH, we did not see that coming….

  132. DMAC Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 2:11 pm

    Get on the phone and see whats up w/ EJ Henderson.
    Isn’t he still a FA? Is he hurt?

    ***

    @DMAC

    http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/1177/ej-henderson

    31 years old. 109 tackles last year with 2 sacks, 3 passes defensed & 3 forced fumbles

    active in all 16 games last year, starting 14 of them
    =============

    Why is he still a FA?

  133. guest123 Says:

    I’m pulling for Burris to take the MLB spot by force of action.

  134. DMAC Says:

    toolnutz Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 2:11 pm

    guest123 Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 1:25 pm

    McClain’s not a very good liar. Or a good criminal. He should consider another line of work he is actually good at.

    ================================

    And he’s a mediocre MLB
    ===========

    Would you like fries w/ that?

  135. Area man Says:

    I don’t mind a thug and a criminal playing mlb for us. If he can actually play. Hope romac can get his act together for him and his family’s sake. That photo of him smiling while getting stuffed into the police car was just freaky weird.

  136. Thec Says:

    realtruraider Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
    Thec

    Cowherd’s boyfriend is Lance, so he loves getting us Raider fans blood boiling

    ++++++++

    fk coward, and lace… and I am a USC fan.

  137. guest123 Says:

    Thec,

    I know. We are going to surprise everyone this year. They won’t see it coming. But we need to purge #55 from the roster if only to set him as an example to the others.

  138. YoungAmerican Says:

    Wheeler has played MLB in the 4-3 before. Wasn’t spectacular at it, but is also better in coverage than Curry and at this point more polished than Burris.

    I wouldn’t rule out the Raiders signing a player like Brackett, Henderson, or McIntosh for depth at MLB (or WLB in the case of McIntosh, with Wheeler possibly moving inside).

  139. Thec Says:

    guest123 Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
    I’m pulling for Burris to take the MLB spot by force of action.

    +++++++++++

    Amen…He says he can play all LB spots…

  140. RAIDER NATION STATION http://www.raidernationstation.com/ Says:

    6. You’re right! We should fire Hue! Oh wait…

  141. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Why is he still a FA?

    ***

    @DMAC

    read this!

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1085518-free-agency-isnt-free-what-the-vikings-lose-by-letting-ej-henderson-walk

  142. Thec Says:

    But we need to purge #55 from the roster if only to set him as an example to the others.

    ++++++++++

    As far as I am concerned McCheese was on a very short leash.

    He had the preseason, and the first 2 live bullets to prove his worth….

    He has made this all too easy….

  143. Hot Shot Says:

    About the snitching got to take the late great Bernie Mac approach.Im not serving time for any of you Mo Fos.Ill be in court raising my hands.your Honor he killed that Mo Fo shot him 4 times I tried to call you but the line was bizzy!!!!LOL

  144. RAIDER NATION STATION http://www.raidernationstation.com/ Says:

    McClain’s lawyers will appeal, go for a jury trial and he’ll play all of this season..barring injury or killing someone in his spare time…

  145. RaiderRockstar Says:

    @ YA

    Rocky McIntosh, yes. forgot about him!

  146. DMAC Says:

    Bring him in. I’m cool w/ Brackett also.

  147. Raider J Says:

    Inside Linebackers

    Reggie Torbor – BUF
    Andra Davis – BUF
    Titus Brown – CLE (R)
    Keith Brooking – DAL
    DeAndre Levy – DET (R)
    Darryl Blackstock – OAK
    Gary Brackett – IND
    E.J. Henderson – MIN
    Niko Koutouvides – NE
    Ramon Humber – NO (R)
    James Farrior – PIT
    Na’il Diggs – SD
    Stephen Cooper – SD
    Keyaron Fox – WAS

  148. guest123 Says:

    I’m willing to allow Burris to be no better than McPain was last year. Seems only fair. And I for one won’t complain. Seems like not a lot to expect. No pressure.

  149. guest123 Says:

    If cut now, his cap hit goes from $4.6M to $13.8M. Ouch!

  150. jraider Says:

    HairyBush Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
    I rememeber McClains college coach going on and on how smart Rolando is. Well, If that is a smart guy I hate to see stupid.

    ********************************

    good stuff. ha!

  151. John David Booty Says:

    YoungAmerican Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
    Wheeler has played MLB in the 4-3 before. Wasn’t spectacular at it, but is also better in coverage than Curry and at this point more polished than Burris.

    I wouldn’t rule out the Raiders signing a player like Brackett, Henderson, or McIntosh for depth at MLB (or WLB in the case of McIntosh, with Wheeler possibly moving inside).
    ———————————————
    Maybe not the best fit in terms of what you typically want an MLB to be, physically, BUT I will agree that right now, Wheeler may be the most “prepared” right now to come in and QB a defense. But then, Im only basing that off of experience, not just at MLB, but in the NFL in general. Would probably have an issue shedding blocks, but I can see him getting MLB action on passing downs.

    The proposition of Wheeler has merit, in that SOMEONE is gonna take it upon themselves to seize the opportunity that McClain left open.

  152. guest123 Says:

    It sucks, but it looks like we are stuck with him.

  153. Raider J Says:

    Curry, Aaron
    Burnett, Kaelin
    Burris, Miles
    Stupar, Nathan
    Goethel, Travis
    Wheeler, Philip

  154. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    KrappyRat, you must feel an instant connection with the dude who ratted our McClain, huh?

    Wonder if he also wrote a sob story email to Becker that didn’t work

    Hilarious

  155. KoolKell Says:

    RAIDER NATION STATION Http://Www.Raidernationstation.Com/ Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 2:17 pm

    McClain’s lawyers will appeal, go for a jury trial and he’ll play all of this season..barring injury or killing someone in his spare time…
    ===========================================
    Don’t think so. The NFL will now suspend him.

  156. RaiderRockstar Says:

    @ Raider J

    I think Rocky McIntosh, Omar Gaither & Clark Haggans are available too … Right??

  157. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Xaiver Adibi & Isaiah Ekejiuba are UFA’s as well

  158. DMAC Says:

    In Cali, assault, reckless endangerment, menacing and wrongful discharge of a firearm would probably send you azz to the pin for at least 3 years.
    Romac should consider himself lucky.

  159. DMAC Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 2:28 pm

    Xaiver Adibi & Isaiah Ekejiuba are UFA’s as well
    ===========

    So is Ricky Brown
    lol

  160. The Big Banana Says:

    McLame put his boys over the team…and they repaid him in kind by snitching. That is some ish right there.

  161. DMAC Says:

    Raider J Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 2:18 pm

    Inside Linebackers

    Reggie Torbor – BUF
    Andra Davis – BUF
    Titus Brown – CLE (R)
    Keith Brooking – DAL
    DeAndre Levy – DET (R)
    Darryl Blackstock – OAK
    Gary Brackett – IND
    E.J. Henderson – MIN
    Niko Koutouvides – NE
    Ramon Humber – NO (R)
    James Farrior – PIT
    Na’il Diggs – SD
    Stephen Cooper – SD
    Keyaron Fox – WAS
    ===========

    I thought Brackett played fairly well in the middle of that 4-3 in Indy. I also wouldn’t mind Henderson.

  162. RaiderRockstar Says:

    LOL @ DMAC

    Ricky Brown
    Sam Williams
    Bruce Davis II
    Isaiah Ekejiuba
    Darryl Blackstock

    pick one, Reggie!!

  163. DMAC Says:

    Who’s got Biekert’s #?

  164. The Big Banana Says:

    DMAC Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 2:28 pm
    In Cali, assault, reckless endangerment, menacing and wrongful discharge of a firearm would probably send you azz to the pin for at least 3 years.
    Romac should consider himself lucky.

    —————————

    And don’t think for a second that Goodell won’t consider this. Alabama slap thugs on the wrist but that doesn’t mean he will.

  165. DMAC Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 2:31 pm

    LOL @ DMAC

    Ricky Brown
    Sam Williams
    Bruce Davis II
    Isaiah Ekejiuba
    Darryl Blackstock

    pick one, Reggie!
    ==========

    If you asked me, you know I gotta go w/ the fan favorite Blackstock.

  166. DMAC Says:

    A one legged EJ Henderson > Romac

  167. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I thought Brackett played fairly well in the middle of that 4-3 in Indy. I also wouldn’t mind Henderson.

    ***

    In all seriousness?

    I would take Henderson, Brooking, Brackett or McIntosh on a cheap 1-year deal. any of those 4 would please me.

    Heck, Andra Davis & James Farrior would probably give us at least what #55 did!

    Then have the wiley ole vet we add compete with Goethel & Stupar for the job. no scholarships!

  168. RaiderFanFromJersey Says:

    I don’t want this to sound like a justification for his stupid actions but consider this. He was in Alabama then because of the loss of his grandfather, I believe. If I recall the reports, they were pretty close. So emotions were running high to begin with. None of us know what led to the young man being beaten up but a young man (McClain) already emotional over the passing of his relative gets pushed too far and over-reacts.
    That being said, he should be cut. Reggie must wish him well personally and turn his back on him professionally. Like has been said already, his production was already below his paycheck but after this, he must go. Good luck with the rest of your career and life Rolando…

  169. DMAC Says:

    I rather go w/ the MLB’s who played in a 4-3.

  170. DMAC Says:

    I knew we should of went after Conner.

  171. realtruraider Says:

    Bill Romanowski‏@billromanowski

    “@NONAMESHOW: @billromanowski if you could say three words to McClain today – what would they be?” don’t die stupid
    ——————————————————-

    LOL, sign Romo

  172. RaiderRockstar Says:

    sounds like Reggie & Dennis need to have another massive tryout!!

    this time for a new MLB ..

    invite 10 players

    Henderson
    Brooking
    Brackett
    McIntosh
    Davis
    Farrior
    Diggs
    Gaither
    Torbor
    Adibi

  173. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Plug in Condo! Or Jano on run downs lol.

  174. Raider J Says:

    Raider Reg may send an in house message & cut him loose. It wouldn’t make $$$$$ sense so, I doubt that will happen. Get an additional ILB regardless.

    I’d rather see him give Ro a chance at redemption.

    This admin and Nap Kaufmann may be have the best environment for 55 to straighten up.

  175. bcz24 Says:

    19.guest123 Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
    Ball’s in Reggie’s court. If he does the right thing, we’ve seen the last of Rolando McClain in silver & black. Even if we take a cap hit, the morale would skyrocket.
    ***************
    its not that simple my friend. The cap hit to cut McClain is so severe we simply cant afford it. I don’t have the exacts in front of me but if memory serves me it would cost us an ADDITIONAL 4 million dollars in cap space to cut him because of the acceleration of his signing bonus, plus whatever it costs to sign his replacement. Sticky spot the Raiders are in on this one.

  176. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Rolando McCondo, there’s the door…

  177. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I knew we should of went after Conner.

    ***

    @DMAC

    odd thing is, a bunch of Raider fans (myself included) thought we should have traded a 5th to the Texans for DeMeco Ryans!

    but then we wouldn’t have been able to draft Criner :(

  178. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Recoup some bonus cash ala Vick bcz?

  179. Thec Says:

    its not that simple my friend. The cap hit to cut McClain is so severe we simply cant afford it. I don’t have the exacts in front of me but if memory serves me it would cost us an ADDITIONAL 4 million dollars in cap space to cut him because of the acceleration of his signing bonus, plus whatever it costs to sign his replacement. Sticky spot the Raiders are in on this one.

    +++++++++++
    I am not advocating cutting McChesse just yet however, we can’t get a cap exception?

    Like this guy is a fck up, and fcking up the NFL and the NATION brand.

    In the best interest of BOTH parties we need to get rid of hiz azz.

  180. RaiderRockstar Says:

    it would cost us an ADDITIONAL 4 million dollars in cap space to cut him because of the acceleration of his signing bonus, plus whatever it costs to sign his replacement

    ***

    @bcz

    we’ve talked about this before. couldn’t the Raiders just dump him and then restructure a few more contracts to be under the cap again?

  181. realtruraider Says:

    Rock

    we got Criner with the 5th rd comp pick.

  182. Method To My Madness Says:

    Aks win again!….after a bad call leading to manager bob melvin gettin tossed…the green and gold still win in extra innings to go back over 500….my main man from the 808 Killa Kaiuhe base kncoks a run in and we take it………let’s go Oakland!

    Also at mlb owners meeting Selig does squat on A’s so called SJ move lol….he will side with Giants….sj deal is dead….huah! Rozzzzaaaaaayyyy!

  183. Method To My Madness Says:

    A’s*

  184. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    It would be up to the commish to determine whether McClain had violated morals clauses in the contract. Then he could determine cap relief.

  185. Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:

    And I thought the best part of waking up was Folgers in my cup. This is even better!

    McClain = Inmate

    The sign at Raiders HQ reads: Wanted Middle Linebacker.

  186. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Travis Goethel this is your opportunity to start at MLB for us PLEASE stay healthy!!!!

  187. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Imagine how buffed up he will be after lifting all those prison weights.

  188. RaiderRockstar Says:

    It would be up to the commish to determine whether McClain had violated morals clauses in the contract. Then he could determine cap relief

    ***

    @Exla

    I think that would be up to Mark, Reggie and the Raiders attorneys to determine whether or not there is bail-out language in the terms of the contract McClain signed. We could always file the suit. Doesn’t mean we would win and be able to recoup any of that money already paid to him or withold guaranteed money he is currently “due”

    only thing the Commish will do is review the facts, speak with McClain and then dish out the suspension he feels is appropriate. if Pryor got 5 games, McClain will probably get the entire season off …

  189. RaiderRockstar Says:

    nite, gents.

    Go Heat!!

  190. JB Says:

    Looks like Curry better start practicing in the middle.

  191. Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:

    Who’s been holding the fort at the Mike since Romac has been gone?

    Rolando won’t have to learn the playbook but he will have to learn “Welcome to Waffle Barn, may I help you?”

  192. J Hill Says:

    Told you we should have drafted the guy who did the incredible back flips.

  193. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    It’s Goethel’s time to shine now.

  194. ottocrat Says:

    Happy trails loser! I hope you clean up your act…Actually, I really don’t care. Do whatever you want, as long as you’re not a Raider. Quite frankly, even if you weren’t in trouble I’d still demote you. I’d rather have anybody else in your position. I’d rather have Lester Green play MLB. (If you understand that reference, you’re cool. And you deserve a Mai Tai at the silver palace in The Town)

  195. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Well, it’s look like McClain won’t be our linebacker for a while, if ever again. This may be a good thing for the Raiders. Al’s legacy soured once again. Let’s hope Pryor pans out.

  196. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    There must be some out in a players contract if they go to jail, right?

  197. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    Yo, my Blog Homies getting ready for LA Kings action?

    Hells yeah, you is. The Beeech Diggity is straight getting fizzle on some 69 action with this ho from subway.

    Not the sandwich shop, but some full figured momma the Certified Platinum Posse picked up on the Blue Line.

    That ticket ’bout to get punched, holla back

    Tonight we bring the Silver & Black on Ice back to the ice hockey mecca, Staples Center! Yo, our boys be ready to turn the lights out QUICK on the coyotes.

    The only thing easier than this victory is giving KrappyRat a diaper wedgie

    WIZ DIZ FIZZLE BOO YAH BRAH

  198. Method To My Madness Says:

    Travis Ivey….us Raider men need you to be ready to be our Nt…you are our only hope at stopping run

  199. J Hill Says:

    Your nuts if you think McClain is headed out of the league behind this, lol.

    An Alabama jury is going to convict him?

    More likely, he’ll settle, serve a 4 game suspension or so, and be playing again.

    You guys really want to see Belecheat pick up 55 too?

  200. Method To My Madness Says:

    Goethel? I dunno…I bet romac starts serving sentence feb of 2013

  201. J Hill Says:

    Goethel at MLB?

    He’ll, why not bring back Ricky Brown or Blackstock?

    Anyone but 55, right?

    SMH!

  202. Raidernationdave Says:

    Gotta take them pleas when they be dishin’ em out.

  203. Method To My Madness Says:

    Romac will get a 4 gamer no doubt…..expect him after the bye…would be nice to have him vs SD but that ship has sailed

  204. JB Says:

    Blackstock, NEVER!

  205. Method To My Madness Says:

    Goethel is coming off an acl injury right? Come on guys…takes 2 years to even be 100 pct from that injury

  206. Raidernationdave Says:

    Everyone on this blog should know HueJax is a huge douche by now. Besides who gives a rip what he thinks.

    Now go get your toes done beyotch.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 1:17 pm

    Raiders’ Hue Jackson supports Rolando McClain

    Based on the information he has on linebacker Rolando McClain’s arrest in Alabama last week, Raiders head coach Hue Jackson said Monday that he didn’t think a suspension by the NFL would be justified.

    Jackson admitted his decision to let McClain play Sunday in the Raiders’ 34-14 loss in Miami was “a close call for me. Very close.”

    The NFL is conducting an investigation of Wednesday’s incident in which McClain allegedly put a gun to a former high school basketball teammate’s head and fired a shot past his ear. The linebacker was arrested Thursday on misdemeanor assault, firearms and other charges in his hometown of Decatur, Ala. McClain declined to comment Monday.

    Jackson and several players said McClain’s troubles were not a distraction for the team and had nothing to do with the one-sided loss to the Dolphins. Miami had a 34-0 lead before the Raiders scored two touchdowns in the fourth quarter.

    When all the facts in the case are known, Jackson said, “I think maybe … we’ll all feel different about it.”

    Initially, Jackson had expressed disappointment in McClain’s conduct, but after talking to him and conducting his own “fact-finding,” he said he thought McClain was caught in the wrong place “at the wrong time.”

    If the NFL suspends the second-year linebacker, who played on Alabama’s 2009 national championship team and was the eighth pick in the 2010 draft, Jackson said he would “come down hard” on him because “that would mean that someone’s not being truthful.”

    In the meantime, he said, “I’m taking a stand behind my player.”

    There’s no telling how soon the NFL will rule on McClain. In an e-mail, league spokesman Greg Aiello said, “We are monitoring the law enforcement investigation. Our timetable will depend on the outcome of that.”

    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/12/05/SPV71M8NDE.DTL

  207. Hot Shot Says:

    This is why Reggie says its important to get players who are great on the field and off the field and it shows.This kind of stuff can hurt your team and also the money they get paid.Get rid of trouble makers.Rolando has alot of growing up to do and he wont be a good complete player until that happens.

  208. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Romac isn’t going to play for the Raiders again. Reggie’s not going to tolerate this sh*t. Plus, the way Goodel hands out suspensions, it is possible Rolando is going to have to serve a year suspension plus jail time.

  209. Raider E Says:

    I willing to bet at least half that sentence is suspended or commuted to community service. First offenders usually dont go to jail. Especially misdeameanors.

  210. Silverandblack666 Says:

    The only reason I say Goethel is because who else is there?

    Are there any viable free agent MLB’s out there?

    If so do we have any money to sign them?

  211. Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:

    Ivey has indisputable size.

    Now he has to get the playbook down. He can’t be acting confused and hesitant once the hitting starts: he has to plug the line and hold his own.

  212. beach Says:

    Get out of the contract, Reggie. Let the low-life die in Alabama. He ruined our 2011 season.

  213. KoolKell Says:

    Raidernationdave Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 3:11 pm

    Everyone on this blog should know HueJax is a huge douche by now.
    ———————————————
    I wouldn’t say that.

  214. J Hill Says:

    It seems like folks would want the best players on the field, B.

    Can we at least get a better player at MLB before we send 55 packing?

    He’ll, I wanted Jason Pieere Paul, but you don’t see me here wishing a scrub player to take the field instead of 55.

    Aren’t we trying to win?

  215. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Neil Young was right about Alabama. A state full of losers.

  216. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    He’ll, I wanted Jason Pieere Paul, but you don’t see me here wishing a scrub player to take the field instead of 55.
    ————
    I haven’t seen any indication that #55 isn’t a scrub.

  217. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Reggie is trying to change the attitude in the Raider’s locker room. The best thing he could do is cut RoMac.

  218. backstageatapuppetshow Says:

    Cut him immediately Reggie….make a statement to the TEAM and the LEAGUE….

  219. ottocrat Says:

    I saw RoMarcus at a Warriors game once. He looks too lanky to be an effective MLB. He’s almost like a tall safety.

  220. Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:

    Tollefson to man the Mike?

    Still cringing at Tyler Brayton at OLB….

  221. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    alright so whe did we let t.scott go i loved his skills at lb thnk he would get some playing time anyone know if hes on another team trevor scott that is

  222. Plunketthead Says:

    Rolando won’t have to learn the playbook but he will have to learn “Welcome to Waffle Barn, may I help you?”

    Rolly looks more like corndog on a stick kind of guy. Who could resist that humongous smile wearing one of those fancy caps

  223. ottocrat Says:

    I wonder if he’s gonna flash that winning smile while he’s getting plugged by his celly.

  224. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Bill Romanowski ‏@billromanowski

    “@NONAMESHOW: @billromanowski if you could say three words to McClain today – what would they be?” don’t die stupid
    Expand

  225. Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:

    Romac redefining the phrase “don’t shoot your mouth off”…

  226. YoungAmerican Says:

    Cutting McClain would also help the Raiders financially. According to figures obtained by CSNCalifornia.com, Oakland would save $1.22 million against the cap this season but absorb a $7.26-million cap hit in 2013. Sounds like a lot, but McClain is already due to have a cap number of $6.675 million next year, so it would only be $585,000 more in dead money. Beyond that, the Raiders would be free from paying him a combined $13.445 million in base salaries through 2015 ($970,000 this season, $4.005 million in 2013, $5.805 million in 2014, $2.665 million in 2015).

    Per Paul Gutierrez.

  227. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    I expect to see Hue Jack outside the courthouse if front of the cameras like Al Sharpton.

  228. Hot Shot Says:

    What has Rolando done for this team.He played below average and is replaceable.Cut him and start fresh.We need complete football players not thugs who do their job Half A$$ed and get in trouble.Showed to me hes not smart enough to be MLB.

  229. DutchRaider77 Says:

    alright so whe did we let t.scott go i loved his skills at lb thnk he would get some playing time anyone know if hes on another team trevor scott that is

    _____________________________________________________

    pats…

  230. Plunketthead Says:

    YA

    Nice find

    Goodbye Rolly it was a shame

  231. KoolKell Says:

    Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 3:26 pm

    I expect to see Hue Jack outside the courthouse if front of the cameras like Al Sharpton.
    ———————————–
    Really?

  232. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    damn you patsies thanks dutch

  233. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Rolando should have hired one of Al Davis’ lawyers. Those guys never lose.

  234. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    bill douchebag always snags the good players

  235. KoolKell Says:

    Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 3:28 pm

    Rolando should have hired one of Al Davis’ lawyers. Those guys never lose.
    —————————————
    No?

  236. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    he would have hired those lawyers buthe spent his rookie contract chillin at jawalrus sippin purple drank shooting guns

  237. HGDaddy Says:

    John Dickinson ‏@JDJohnDickinson
    Rolando McClain’s attorney said McClain has filed request for jury trial & under state law in Alabama, “the process starts all over again.”

  238. LBRAIDERS Says:

    Relax people he’s probably not going to do a day in jail though he’ll probably be on probation for 5 to 10 years probably a four-game suspension I don’t think seriously are Raiders will let him go and walk too much invested and lots of potential that’s all we need is him to go to Cincinnati New England or Philly he’s not going anywhere Mark my words…….

  239. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 3:30 pm

    Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 3:28 pm

    Rolando should have hired one of Al Davis’ lawyers. Those guys never lose.
    —————————————
    No?
    ———
    No

  240. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    for some reason dont know why i think he will do time in jail not much im thinking like 30 days

  241. ottocrat Says:

    Fresh, young, millionaire meat for those lifers to feast on. Bunch of very angry dudes with nothing to lose. To qoute Jerry Seinfeld: “Good luck with all that!”

  242. KoolKell Says:

    Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
    KoolKell Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 3:30 pm

    Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 3:28 pm

    Rolando should have hired one of Al Davis’ lawyers. Those guys never lose.
    —————————————
    No?
    ———
    No
    ===========================
    Wrong.

  243. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 3:32 pm

    Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
    KoolKell Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 3:30 pm

    Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 3:28 pm

    Rolando should have hired one of Al Davis’ lawyers. Those guys never lose.
    —————————————
    No?
    ———
    No
    ===========================
    Wrong.
    ———-
    Wrong.

  244. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    The only case I remember Al losing was when he sued the Panther and Buccaneers over their uniforms.

  245. KoolKell Says:

    In 1995 Davis moved the team back to Oakland. Davis then sued the NFL, claiming the league sabotaged the team’s effort to build a stadium at Hollywood Park in Inglewood by not doing enough to help the team move from the antiquated Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum to a new stadium complete with luxury suites. The NFL won a 9–3 verdict in 2001,

  246. J Hill Says:

    The process starts all over again, huh?

    Jury trial this time instead of Jeb the Judge out of the back of his general store?

    Looks like he will be starting against SD, B.

  247. KoolKell Says:

    In the mid-1990s, Davis sued the NFL on behalf of the Raiders, claiming the Raiders had exclusive rights to the LA market, even though the Raiders were in Oakland. Davis and the Raiders lost the lawsuit.

  248. beach Says:

    The first 4 games defines the season. I don’t want to ever see this clown as a Raider again!

  249. Kirk Says:

    Cut this guy.

    He can’t play worth sh…

  250. beach Says:

    In other news: the Oakland A’s won in Texas today! :)

  251. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    Wow! The wheels of justice roll pretty swift in Bama..

    If he pulled this in Cali, they’d still be going through all the pre-trial motion(s) b.s…

    I’m far from an expert on this, but IF did do this in Cali. Roslow would be looking at a much more severe sentence.. 3-5 years, maybe more..

    Hopefully, this will wake his dumbass up….

  252. Kirk Says:

    I will never forget Mclain backing off and letting a 180 lb defense back hit a runner after Mclain got there first.

    It was pathetic.

  253. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Lots of folks drifted the idea of Curry playing in the middle before all of this, but I don’t think the staff will give it much consideration.

    If we had any depth at the LB spot, we might have already released Rolando.

    But we are so thin there, we kind of have to wait to see what the league does before we make a move, IMO.

  254. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    guest123 Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
    Hue: Rolando McClain is no longer your concern. Shagging practice balls and shuttling water buckets for the Bengals secondary is your priority.

    “““““““““““““““““““““““““““
    Yeah, I did laugh out loud at this one…

  255. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 3:37 pm

    In the mid-1990s, Davis sued the NFL on behalf of the Raiders, claiming the Raiders had exclusive rights to the LA market, even though the Raiders were in Oakland. Davis and the Raiders lost the lawsuit.

    ——
    Shut up Mr. Literal.

  256. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    EJ Henderson.

    Rocky McIntosh.

    Tires.

    Kick.

  257. J Hill Says:

    The CB from Tampa has had much more serious charges pending for over a year and have they cut him?

    Teams aren’t so quick to give up in guys THEY think can play.

    ESPECIALLY, when there isn’t a better player on the roster.

  258. Raidernationdave Says:

    Of course not!

    ++++++++++++

    KoolKell Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 3:15 pm

    Raidernationdave Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 3:11 pm

    Everyone on this blog should know HueJax is a huge douche by now.
    ———————————————
    I wouldn’t say that.

  259. guest123 Says:

    Big difference in caliber of play between an Aqib Talib and a Rolando McClain. Talib is borderline elite right now. McClain was nothing but a disappointment on and off the field.

  260. Raidernationdave Says:

    Me too!

    +++++++++

    909RaiderLifer Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 3:43 pm

    guest123 Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
    Hue: Rolando McClain is no longer your concern. Shagging practice balls and shuttling water buckets for the Bengals secondary is your priority.

    “““““““““““““““““““““““““““
    Yeah, I did laugh out loud at this one…

  261. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    guest123 Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 3:49 pm
    Big difference in caliber of play between an Aqib Talib and a Rolando McClain. Talib is borderline elite right now. McClain was nothing but a disappointment on and off the field.

    —-

    I wouldnt say Talib is borderline elite.

    He has flashed. But hasnt lived up totally to his draft slot.

  262. Kirk Says:

    McClain can’t play.

    Cut him and use the money for someone else.

  263. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Anywho, its May.

    WAY too early to make permanent decisions.

  264. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter

    NYC police will not bring charges against Bears WR Brandon Marshall for a melee at a nightclub in March, said his attorney Harvey Steinberg.
    Expand
    ————-
    Looks like Harvey is batting .500 today.

  265. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    And the thing with McClain hasnt been ability, its been motivation.

    He CAN play. Doesnt always look like he wants to.

  266. guest123 Says:

    Talib’s draft slot was in the mid twenties. McClain was #8 overall. That’s a huge gap in perceived talent level and pay. And you really can’t begin to compare their relative contributions to their respective teams.

  267. morilla Says:

    Dont kid yourselves. You honestly think Reggie and DA want to put up with this BS? This is the “New Era” of the Raiders.

    Rolando is gone.

  268. ottocrat Says:

    Jaradious? Jeez, can someone spell that one out phonetically for me?

  269. guest123 Says:

    Rolando McClain has gotten on the Raider Nation’s last nerve.

  270. Dan78 Says:

    What a waste!

  271. Marks hair Says:

    Bet he’s not smiling the next time they put him in cuffs

  272. Hardline Says:

    Well……stupid is as stupid does.

    If I were Reggie and Mark I wouldn’t cut Rolando.

    Hopefully, he’ll be put on one of the old fashioned deep south chain gangs making little rocks out of big rocks. Hopefully, he’ll be challenged and have to fight everyday. Hopefully that will toughen him up getting his ass kicked day in and day out by big, nasty cons. When it’s all over hopefully he’ll lose the jelly off his azz and thighs. Hopefully he will learned how to run…very fast…..

    Only then, with the beat downs, and attitude changers will the self-enabled idiot become a man, and act like one too.

    Possibly, if he actually has the talent, he can fulfill it.

    Have fun in the hooze-gow, jackazz……lol!!

  273. R8ER MIKE Says:

    Wonder how long it will take for shop N.F.L.com to put his jerseys on sale for $10.00

  274. Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:

    The Raiders had an impressive turnout for the mini-camp and, now, OTAs. “Mostly everybody was here for mini-camps, and OTAs it was pretty good to have everybody here,” said Van Dyke. “It means everybody is buying into what Coach Allen has to say.”

    Everybody but Romac…

  275. Marks hair Says:

    Hue suspended him for 1 whole snap..
    Hmm, I wonder why we were so undisciplined last yr..

  276. Dan78 Says:

    Over/Under games suspended @ 6

  277. Hardline Says:

    Don’t worry about cap room my friends. McClain’s contract has an escape clause provision in it. Do you actually think the Raider’s are liable for McClain’s money on the balance of the contract, upon conviction of a crime and prison time ??

    If AD fired “Lance” and refused to perform further on the contract, (refusing to pay the balance of salary due on the contract) which was upheld by an arbitrator, I am sure they can do the same thing with McClain.

  278. guest123 Says:

    I say that one way or the other, it’s the last time we see him actually play for Oakland. Whether they negotiate a termination settlement with cause or carry him as a healthy scratch. McClain’s not playing again at least for us.

  279. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    NFLN just said Roslow, was the Raiders 2nd. leading tackler last season…

    Since when has the NFL begun giving credit for tackling thin air?…..

  280. guest123 Says:

    It’s never a good thing for your safety to be the team lead in tackles. Only other team that did that was the Colts.

  281. Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:

    So instead of being at the OTAs and learning [h]is new playbook, Romac was in Alabama brushing up on Criminal Law 101.

    35 years of being a Raider fan under Al has me fearing Big Mac and DA are gonna slap him on the wrist…but it is not to be.

    Romac is the last of “outta whack” contracts (with the debatable exception being TK), and was already on thin ice.

    Missing the first OTAs and getting jail time to boot should send him plunging through the ice.

    A new dawn has risen on the Raider Nation.

    Bring in the FA MLBs.

  282. guest123 Says:

    Tafur is tweeting that the Raiders are looking into the NFL’s personal conduct policy. It looks like they are already getting the gears turning and are looking for any legal way to get out of McClain’s contract cap hit.

  283. chet_gordon Says:

    How can firing a gun next to someone’s head be a misdemeanor?

  284. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    Marks hair Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
    Hue suspended him for 1 whole snap..
    Hmm, I wonder why we were so undisciplined last yr..

    “““““““““““““““““““““““““““`
    Excellent point….”Snap count? I dont need to know any stinking snap count!”

  285. Marks hair Says:

    This is a problem.. The middle of our defense is an open wound.. Maybe tarver can play dt and da can play mlb..

  286. Raidernationdave Says:

    The next time Raider fan hears about Slowlando it will be on an episode of BSPN’s E=60 where we learn all about Slow’s struggles coming out of prison after such a promising future coming out of Alabama.

  287. Dan78 Says:

    I think Reg will drop the axe on this fool.

  288. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    How can firing a gun next to someone’s head be a misdemeanor?
    “““““““““““““““““““““““““““
    Two words: Ala Bama….

  289. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Maybe Hue can convince Bengals to trade the 2nd round pick back to Raiders for McClain.

  290. Raider O Says:

    Romac is the last of “outta whack” contracts (with the debatable exception being TK), and was already on thin ice.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Don’t forget our punter who has a $5.65 million cap
    Hit.

  291. Dan78 Says:

    Hue is busy handing out towels

  292. realtruraider Says:

    I don’t think McClains play was as bad as most on here seem to think, he was the best LB on the team and thats with playing on a bum knee and ankle. He did look slow at times but now knowing what he was playing through shows to me he wanted to be out there trying to help this team.

    I had high hopes for McClain this season with the new coaches and scheme etc, I believe Reggie and DA know that he has alot of talent and could be a big part of this defense, but I have a feeling they might want to use this situation to send a message to the team and the rest of the league, that no matter where you got drafted and how talented you are we will not put up with this type of schit. Its a new regime, so I can see them wanting to send that message early on in the regime change.

  293. Raidernationdave Says:

    There could be no more perfect scenario for continuing the new direction and progress of the new Raider’s regime of RMac and DA than to show this dumbass kid the door.

    Who give’s a rip what his “potential” is, or what he could become after this episode when the iron is hot right now to solidify this new direction and cutting this stupid MoFo!

    Here’s to the “New” Raider’s.

    I want my Silver & Black MoJo back!

  294. Dan78 Says:

    Hue is busy mixing the Gatorade

  295. Raidernationdave Says:

    Oy Vey!

    +++++++++++++

    Raider O Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 4:28 pm

    Romac is the last of “outta whack” contracts (with the debatable exception being TK), and was already on thin ice.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Don’t forget our punter who has a $5.65 million cap
    Hit.

  296. DutchRaider77 Says:

    How can firing a gun next to someone’s head be a misdemeanor?
    “““““““““““““““““““““““““““
    Two words: Ala Bama….

    ______________________________________________________

    Incestuous marriages are legal.

    Woot-Woot Sully!

    http://www.dumblaws.com/laws/united-states/alabama

  297. YoungAmerican Says:

    http://draftbreakdown.com/keith-price-vs-washington-state

  298. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Goethel and Stupar will be more productive than McClain has.

  299. Hardline Says:

    Again, guys, release of further responsibility for McClain’s contract is inevitably written into an escape clause.

    Also under common law a legal theory under contract exists called “Anticipatory Repudiation”. This is when one party to the contract meets circumstances that may cause future non-performance. Once the other party to the contract perceives such circumstances, that party can demand assurance of performance, or suspend his/her performance, declare material breach and sue for damages.

    There is no way the Raiders will ever fulfill the balance of McStupid’s contract…..never….ever….never.

  300. realtruraider Says:

    I think we will have to add a new LB, Goethel sounds like he has all the tools, but he can not stay healthy enough to even make through training camp. Man Im worried about our LB alot more than I was yesterday

  301. chet_gordon Says:

    Do the pick-ups of Philip Wheeler and Miles Burris make up for the loss of McClain (assuming he gets cut)?

  302. Dan78 Says:

    Next Man Up

  303. J Hill Says:

    Why are you guys overlooking the FACT that today never really happened as far as McClain is concerned?

    The process is starting over and he’s going to get a jury trial.

    What if a jury finds him not guilty?

  304. R8ER MIKE Says:

    O dog. What’s the good word?

  305. Raiders for life Says:

    J Hill,
    I was going to ask the same question. If he is cleared on all charges…do you still cut him.

  306. Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:

    Yeah, and none of the publicity happened either.

    Nor the video.

    Nor the fact that he missed the OTA and new playbook.

    Like the episode of Dallas where Bobby was still alive: it was just a dream.

  307. big pep Says:

    I for one am tired of hearing stories like this from any N.F.L. player. but it really pisses me off when its an oakland player, cause you know they are gonna rip us a new one in the national media. when are these stupid ghetto asss kids and their parents gonna learn that they have a chance in a lifetime to change the course of their life for the better. instead they go out and buy cars and “jewry”

  308. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Cut him for being a dumb ass and a sh*tty player.

  309. Hardline Says:

    J Hill Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 4:44 pm
    Why are you guys overlooking the FACT that today never really happened as far as McClain is concerned?

    The process is starting over and he’s going to get a jury trial.

    What if a jury finds him not guilty?
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    J Hill,

    Of course today never really happened as far as McClain is concerned because he can’t face reality. His lawyer put such a happy spin on today’s outcome, essentially saying, “it aint nothin.”

    I seriously doubt that’s the case. What if when McClain’s case goes to appeal the Appeal Courts rules against him??? Normally regarding a misdemeanor conviction, defendant is out of gas with no further appeals.

    Also in case McClain does get a jury trial, the fact that the co-perpetrator of the caper rolled on Rolando and testified against, for leniency in sentencing, plays a heavy role.

    Rolando baby should just man up and do his time; he would miss this season but could be available for 2013.

  310. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    Incestuous marriages are legal.

    Woot-Woot Sully!

    http://www.dumblaws.com/laws/united-states/alabama

    “““““““““““““““““““““““““““

    My ribs hurt..ROLMFAO!……

  311. Hardline Says:

    big pep Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
    I for one am tired of hearing stories like this from any N.F.L. player. but it really pisses me off when its an oakland player, cause you know they are gonna rip us a new one in the national media. when are these stupid ghetto asss kids and their parents gonna learn that they have a chance in a lifetime to change the course of their life for the better. instead they go out and buy cars and “jewry”
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    BigPep,

    And make plenny a ladies their “baby’s Momma” at a cost of about $50K per month, just like TO.

    Low life idiots!

  312. Raiders for life Says:

    I wanted to see if Rolo would improve in his 3rd year and live up to expectations. Stupid kid.

  313. raidertalk Says:

    This is nothing compared to what the Raiders of Olde would worry about; 180 days, misdemeanor, I mean didn’t Ray Lewis kill a dude, Didn’t that running back from the eagles run someone over.

    On the other hand Roland is no Ray Lewis, nor as dominant as the olde pirates…
    Makes a hella of lot more money than the Raider rebels of yesteryear made tho

  314. J Hill Says:

    HL,

    I’m hardly familiar with the Alabama court processes, but it seems like a denial of the appeals process is not likely.

    Man up and do 90 days??????

    How is going go jail manning up?

    Do you think there is a good chance a jury of Alabamans are going to send him to jail?

  315. DutchRaider77 Says:

    big pep Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
    I for one am tired of hearing stories like this from any N.F.L. player. but it really pisses me off when its an oakland player, cause you know they are gonna rip us a new one in the national media. when are these stupid ghetto asss kids and their parents gonna learn that they have a chance in a lifetime to change the course of their life for the better. instead they go out and buy cars and “jewry”
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    BigPep,

    And make plenny a ladies their “baby’s Momma” at a cost of about $50K per month, just like TO.

    Low life idiots!

    ___________________________________________________

    Surprising that the NFL personel conduct policy does not cover failing to pay child support…

  316. Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:

    Re the appeal, there is no telling Romac will have to wait for that trial.

    In the meantime, Romac comes back and is “technically” a free man and Big Reg just pretends the case isn’t hanging over Romac like the Sword of Damocles?

  317. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    This is nothing compared to what the Raiders of Olde would worry about; 180 days
    ——–
    That’s a myth. Raiders of old partied hard and probably broke laws. But, they never did jail time.

  318. Raider O Says:

    ODB,

    B
    I
    R
    D
    Bird
    Bird
    Bird
    Bird is the word!

  319. MistaBrown Says:

    Racist bigot.
    _____

    KoolKell Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 1:16 pm

    Ghetto Gravity is hard to escape.

  320. big pep Says:

    @hardline: agree, till there old and broke. then its to late, no game,money or an education, that would have been free for them because of there athletic ability unlike the rest of us normals.

  321. MistaBrown Says:

    JaMarcus McClain.

    It’s been very nice knowing you, good luck!

  322. J Hill Says:

    Is the an example of an NFL team cutting their 1st rd pick after being convicted of a misdemeanor?

  323. Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:

    Romac’s future will be fine, he’ll open a Clown College.

  324. zopi Says:

    Either that judge in Alabama is soft, or that state’s judicial system is whacked. 180 days for that? McClain got away easy, no offense, but his high-priced lawyer is fighting like crazy to get him off even easier.

    However, Mark Davis and RegMac shouldn’t put up with this knuclehead. HueSux covered for this loser, but RegMac must get rid of this garbage asap. Damn the cap hit, if indeed the house is getting major remodeling, McClain must go now. It’s not like their losing a solid player. Cut your losses, Reg.

  325. MistaBrown Says:

    Racist.
    ____

    Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 4:50 pm

    Cut him for being a dumb ass and a sh*tty player.

  326. big pep Says:

    good night, RAIDER NATION

  327. antispy3 Says:

    Wow; the opposite of double jeopardy; a mellonhead can afford to the opportunity to stay outta prison TWICE on an assault charge.

    Talk about two strikes; oh well, the way he’s going he’ll soon deplete his resources & will have to go to gang banging full time; won’t have the advantages of a first round NFL draft pick’s (temporary) riches.

    Just cut him; rid yourselves of the problem. It will only have an adverse effect on the team. . .

  328. DutchRaider77 Says:

    Is the an example of an NFL team cutting their 1st rd pick after being convicted of a misdemeanor?

    _________________________________________________

    Yeah even Pac-man wasn’t cut…

  329. DKnight007 Says:

    McClain won’t serve those 180 days. There will be an appeal and jury trial and probably a plea bargain eventually and a deal worked out with the DA.

  330. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    Raider O….

    I see a small window here, where maybe we can explore opening a dialogue for a “Midwest Peace Talk”. With BSJ, and yourself….

    BSJ, wants to cut Condo. You, want to cut Shane…

    That is some common ground here, between you two..

    Not much, I will admit. But, it is a start…

  331. Hardline Says:

    J Hill Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
    HL,

    I’m hardly familiar with the Alabama court processes, but it seems like a denial of the appeals process is not likely.

    Man up and do 90 days??????

    How is going go jail manning up?

    Do you think there is a good chance a jury of Alabamans are going to send him to jail?
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    J Hill,

    I am not fully up to speed on Alabama Civil Procedure either. In most jurisdictions however, defendants convicted of a misdemeanor have but one appeal. If that defendant receives an unfavorable ruling, then the appeal process is exhausted. Appeals systems favor those convicted of felonies, carrying very long prison sentences, or possible capital punishment.

    Bench trials are staged, at least in CA, because defendant fears being tried in front of a jury.

    Also, McClain was sentenced to 180 days. If he began serving his sentence today he would be out mid-November. “Manning up” to his crimes and serving his term now would also project an attitude of repetentance that would favor him, either with the Raiders or if he is released, with another team.

  332. raidertalk Says:

    Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 4:59 pm
    This is nothing compared to what the Raiders of Olde would worry about; 180 days
    ——–
    That’s a myth. Raiders of old partied hard and probably broke laws. But, they never did jail time.
    ————————————————–
    True, I guess the law was more lenient, back then.
    And those olde raids didn’t make nearly what Mclain-types make nowadays

    With more money and fame comes more scrutiny

  333. raidertalk Says:

    We need to keep lawyers employed anyway we can in this economy

  334. Seymour Bush Says:

    DKnight007 Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 5:09 pm

    McClain won’t serve those 180 days. There will be an appeal and jury trial and probably a plea bargain eventually and a deal worked out with the DA.
    =====================================

    You’ve never been in the south have you? It ain’t like here. These are law and order states, and if you fukk up, you are going to jail.

  335. J Hill Says:

    HL,

    As opposed to him being out of jail, in camp learning the defense, and possibly beating these charges?

    No offense, but he’s probably glad you are not his lawyer, lol.

  336. guest123 Says:

    I agree with post 334.

    I lived in Alabama six years and it’s pretty much hardline law.

  337. J Hill Says:

    So do you guys think any of these LBs we signed can really step in and play MLB for us?

    Is this even more reason to play a 3-4 if we have to so called choose between Goethel and Curry?

    Can Curry and Goethel get it done as an ILB tandem behind big Travis Ivey?

  338. Twocents Says:

    Rolando McClain, the last 1st round pick of the late Al Davis.

  339. Seymour Bush Says:

    J Hill Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 5:21 pm

    So do you guys think any of these LBs we signed can really step in and play MLB for us?
    ========================================

    Goethel is the next guy up. He can handle it.

  340. Raider O Says:

    Ivey?!?
    Let’s see if he can make the roster 1st.

  341. Hardline Says:

    J Hill Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
    HL,

    As opposed to him being out of jail, in camp learning the defense, and possibly beating these charges?

    No offense, but he’s probably glad you are not his lawyer, lol.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    J Hill,

    Lol….of course an attorney owes a client a duty of competency in order to prosecute the client’s case in the highest and best manner.

    But an attorney also owes a client a duty of honesty, and McClain’s attorney is making it sound like this will be a cake walk, McClain will win his appeal and prevail in the inevitable jury trial.

    The DA in Decatur probably offered McClain a deal, to plead for a 30 day suspended sentence and probation. Meanwhile McClain’s attorney could have dealt with the Raiders for a second chance including salary reduction.

    This all could have been done months ago and most likely McClain would be practicing at the current OTA.
    A good attorney doesn’t put his famous client on trial in the public eye and drag out misdemeanor convictions.

    You get it over with and swept under the rug!

  342. Raider O Says:

    Goethel needs to prove that he can stay healthy, and then he needs to prove that he can play.

  343. Raiders for life Says:

    Goethel is the next guy up. He can handle it.

    #########################

    Let’s hope so. Goethel has had more surgeries than Frankenstien. I’m rooting for the kid to play good and stay healthy, but I’m not gonna get to excited about him just yet.

  344. Hardline Says:

    If McClain is released, and the Raiders under the escape clause in the contract defer his remaining salary of about $30M, they can hire the best MLB on the market.

  345. DJ Johnny Says:

    I don’t recall media calling the Giants dysfunctional when Burress did time. Or Atlanta w/ Vick, and they certainy didn’t disparage the wonderful Steelers for Roethlisberger’s accused infractions.

    I don’t know why they would rip on us for what McClain did.

    Rip on McClain not the Raiders.

  346. realtruraider Says:

    Either that judge in Alabama is soft, or that state’s judicial system is whacked. 180 days for that? McClain got away easy, no offense, but his high-priced lawyer is fighting like crazy to get him off even easier.
    ——————————————————-

    I believe he got the max for each charge, 45 days for each

  347. J Hill Says:

    Who is the best MLB on the market?

    Is that guy even better than Goethel or any of the rookies we have?

  348. DJ Johnny Says:

    338.Twocents Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
    Rolando McClain, the last 1st round pick of the late Al Davis.

    C’mon. That is a total stretch to somehow blame Al for this which is what everybody inevitably gets around to.

    I fault Al for a lot of stuff but can’t we give it a rest already?

    I’m sure everyone could come up with reasons why the Vick thing was Al’s fault too.

    “Well Al Davis set the pattern of tolerating players who do bad things so really what was Vick supposed to think? He thought he could get away with his crimes because Al Davis set the pattern of tolerance for evil acts.”

    There ya go. That was easy.

  349. Twocents Says:

    Al never talked to McClain, knew him only by his tape and what scouts probably told him. He made the pick, who else is to blame?

  350. Seymour Bush Says:

    Goethel was playing well when he got hurt last season. Can he come in and play in the middle? I would bet yes.

  351. Raider O Says:

    Twocents,

    I blame the government.

  352. Seymour Bush Says:

    I blame the Federal Reserve. If they weren’t just a printing press of money, McClain wouldn’t have missed all those tackles. Right two cents?

  353. RaiderTW Says:

    Anyone see this! I’m offended!
    At least we’ren’t in the top 5.
    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8292b47e/article/cowboys-raiders-tebow-fans-rated-most-delusional

  354. Raider O Says:

    LOL

  355. J Hill Says:

    Well we certainly are in a better position at LB no matter what.

    Last year, Groves was literally our 3rd best LB when we started the season.

  356. Raider O Says:

    TW,

    Where have you been man? I hope all is well with you and your brother? Are you healthy enough to smoke? lol

  357. DJ Johnny Says:

    349.Twocents Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
    Al never talked to McClain, knew him only by his tape and what scouts probably told him. He made the pick, who else is to blame?

    McClain is.

    We needed a inebacker in a bad way. McClain won every accolade they can give out in college; Butkus award, SEC defensive player of the year, etc. etc. etc.

    I don’t exonerate Al entirely as you’re right..he DID make the pick but he also picked DMoore and Jared Veldheer.

    As I said, i’m disappointed in aot of the moves Al made…especially the past decade but I don’t think he’s responsible when guys screw up on their own volition.

  358. RaiderTW Says:

    Doin fine, smokin now. Always helps.

  359. RaiderTW Says:

    How’s things on your end? Read that Tebow fans are the most delusional?

  360. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Pacers up by 14 going into 4th quarter!!!

  361. bcz24 Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 5:48 pm

    Goethel was playing well when he got hurt last season. Can he come in and play in the middle? I would bet yes.
    *****************
    Not to be a d1ck, but how would you know how Goethel is playing? He got hurt in either the first or second preseason game, and the only thing I remember of his play was that it wasn’t good at all. Not to mention the guy makes McFadden seem downright invincible. I wouldn’t count on a UDFA to be the captain of my defense.

  362. Bob Marley Says:

    McClain will got to trial and the truth will come out, at least the “legal truth” which is what each side is able to prove.

    McClain is already guilty of being inmature, that much is certain, but he’s not a criminal, this wasn’t gang or drug related violence, the guys hanging out at that place had been friends since junior high, things got out of hand.

    By the way, Donte Stallworth killed a man while driving drunk, he got suspended 1 season, the NFL won’t suspend McClain for more than 4 games, my guess would be 2 games at the most, McClain didn’t injure anyone and it remains to be proven if he did anything wrong at all.

  363. DJ Johnny Says:

    I hope Reggie has his egal “people” looking into every possible angle to see if he can release this doofus and not pay him for the privilage.

  364. bcz24 Says:

    Just read Paul G’s article on Romac. According to him, the 8 million dollar cap hit due to the acceleration of 55’s signing bonus wont actually hit us until next season, seems we CAN actually cut him. This is good news IMO. I would sign EJ Henderson for a year to run the defense while some of these younger guys get up to speed, or until we can get a stud MLB next year.

  365. bcz24 Says:

    By the way, Donte Stallworth killed a man while driving drunk, he got suspended 1 season, the NFL won’t suspend McClain for more than 4 games, my guess would be 2 games at the most, McClain didn’t injure anyone and it remains to be proven if he did anything wrong at all.
    **********
    I said pretty much the same thing, but it doesn’t change my opinion that he can be suspended from some other teams roster.

  366. L.A. Raider Dave Says:

    IF there is a way to get the money back, do it. If not trade him to the Bengals.

  367. bcz24 Says:

    No one is going to trade for this guy, if we were to attempt to put him on the block it would be clear to everyone that we were moving on, and they would just wait for his release.

  368. Raider O Says:

    TW,

    All is well here. Are you coming thus year?

  369. Bob Marley Says:

    If McClain is not here, the guy who replaces him will have an easier job than Rolando.

    The new Coaches won’t likely ask Kelly, Seymour and the rest of the inside players to fire off the ball towards the backfield as often which made it difficult for the MLB to properly read anything and protect himself from blockers.

    A more disciplined approach on Defense, specially the DL, which I expect from DA, will make the Raiders MLB job easier than it has been in a while, probably since the Greg Biekert days.

  370. RaiderTW Says:

    If I do it will be late August. Whatz goin on in SD? Wished I’d a seen the Frazeta show there last summer.

  371. bcz24 Says:

    EJ Henderson should be on a plane to oakland right now.

  372. Raider O Says:

    Tebow’s fans ate crazy. The guy is a RB pretending to be a QB. cows!

  373. morilla Says:

    Guest123 Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 4:19 pm
    Tafur is tweeting that the Raiders are looking into the NFL’s personal conduct policy. It looks like they are already getting the gears turning and are looking for any legal way to get out of McClain’s contract cap hit.
    —————

    If this is true, expect Reggie to announce his release in the next couple of days.

  374. Seymour Bush Says:

    bcz24 Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 6:09 pm

    Seymour Bush Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 5:48 pm

    Goethel was playing well when he got hurt last season. Can he come in and play in the middle? I would bet yes.
    *****************
    Not to be a d1ck, but how would you know how Goethel is playing? He got hurt in either the first or second preseason game, and the only thing I remember of his play was that it wasn’t good at all. Not to mention the guy makes McFadden seem downright invincible. I wouldn’t count on a UDFA to be the captain of my defense.
    ================================================

    Goethel was actually a 6th rounder who was playing very well in camp when he got hurt in 2010. Last year the staff wanted him to be the starter on the outside and he got hurt again. Goethel was primarily thought of as an inside player, but the defensive staff wanted him to start on the outside last year. Let’s see what happens this year.

  375. Raider O Says:

    The Dalai lama was here. Titanic 100th anniversary and the Horse at SDNHM.

  376. Seymour Bush Says:

    Bob Marley Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 6:10 pm

    McClain will got to trial and the truth will come out, at least the “legal truth” which is what each side is able to prove.

    McClain is already guilty of being inmature, that much is certain, but he’s not a criminal, this wasn’t gang or drug related violence, the guys hanging out at that place had been friends since junior high, things got out of hand.

    By the way, Donte Stallworth killed a man while driving drunk, he got suspended 1 season, the NFL won’t suspend McClain for more than 4 games, my guess would be 2 games at the most, McClain didn’t injure anyone and it remains to be proven if he did anything wrong at all.
    =============================================

    I don’t know if I would say McClain wasn’t proven to do nothing wrong. This was more than a preliminary hearing and McClain did take a conviction. He took a criminal conviction on a couple of counts. He did have a defense and proper legal counsel. Will his conviction be over turned on appeal? That, is what we will find out.

  377. Seymour Bush Says:

    morilla Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 6:32 pm

    Guest123 Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 4:19 pm
    Tafur is tweeting that the Raiders are looking into the NFL’s personal conduct policy. It looks like they are already getting the gears turning and are looking for any legal way to get out of McClain’s contract cap hit.
    —————

    If this is true, expect Reggie to announce his release in the next couple of days.
    ==============================================

    McClain being outrighted would not surprise me at all.

  378. J Hill Says:

    I think it’s safe to assume that FAs still on the market are mediocre at best.

    I’d rather see Goethel or one of the rookies getna shot.

    Agree with Bob that the LBs jobs are going to be a lot easier.

  379. bcz24 Says:

    I would say EJ Henderson is better than ‘mediocre’, although I will agree he is getting up there in age. His veteran leadership could go a long way at helping these young dudes bridge the gap to being able to start in the NFL.

  380. Bob Marley Says:

    The one reason I would cut McClain is not on-field or off-field related.

    On the field, it remains to be seen how good can McClain be under the direction of a top flight Defensive Staff (I hope), he had mediocre Marshall as a rookie and the infamous Chuck B as a sophomore, I’d love to see what DA, Tarver and Holland could do with this kid.

    Off the field, like I said, the kid is not engaged in criminal activities, he has a temper and is inmature, but he’s also 22, Ray Lewis and his gang killed 2 people at 25, give Romac a chance to redeem himself, everyone deserves a second chance.

    But….

    The financial situation makes it very tempting to cut McClain.

    If indeed we save 1.2 million this year, are on the hook for about 6 million next year anyway and the net “loss” of 2013 cap space for cutting him is only 600 K more….leading to future savings of 13 million over the next what? 3-4 years, you almost have to do it.

    That contract Rolando got was back when rookie salaries were crazy deals, that kind of money needs to be earned in today’s league and 4-3 MLB’s just won’t get that kind of coin anymore in the open market, unless they’re elite players and difference makers, say Brian Urlacher.

    Reggie and DA must have had high hopes for McClain, they chose to keep him and his salary, this far anyway, when they had a way out of an outdated contract that’s not in line with the new salary structure.

    I guess we’ll see if they lost hope or are willing to gamble on the kid.

  381. Dakota Says:

    So now Slowlando gets a jury trial? So really this was much to do about nothing? I wonder how long he can put off the jury trial?

  382. realtruraider Says:

    Vittorio Tafur
    Judge Cook said the evidence that convinced him to find McClain guilty was the man who called 911 that night. The man testified he was at home across the street on Nov. 30 when he saw and heard a gun fired, but didn’t know who did it and called 911
    ——————————————————–

    Really? This is why he found McClain guilty?

    I think its safe to say he will be found not guilty in the jury trial

  383. realtruraider Says:

    Vittorio Tafur
    There were a couple of surprising developments in the Rolando McClain trial. Judge Bill Cook refused to allow the cell phone video and then co-defendant Jarodiaus Willingham didn’t testify. This after Willingham pleaded guilty and got a 90-day sentence for agreeing to testify against his friend.
    ——————————————————-

    Interesting

  384. DJ Johnny Says:

    371.bcz24 Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 6:26 pm
    EJ Henderson should be on a plane to oakland right now.

    He should already be going over the defensive schemes with Jason Tarver and just wrapping up his interviw on “Behind the Shield”.

  385. DJ Johnny Says:

    May 17th, 2012 at 6:48 pm
    371.bcz24 Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 6:26 pm
    EJ Henderson should be on a plane to oakland right now.

    He should already be going over the defensive schemes with Jason Tarver and just wrapping up his interviw on “Behind the Shield”.
    —-
    Janitorial staff should already be cleaning up the press room after his introductory press conference.

  386. Dakota Says:

    The victim went to the car to get a box cutter before going back in the home..,.hmmmm

  387. KoolKell Says:

    I hope “you people” are enjoying yourselves, it must be gratifying to be right about people all the time.

  388. RaiderTW Says:

    O, that reminds me of a line in a movie “I’ll make the Dalai Lama was never reborn!”
    don’t remember what movie.

  389. bcz24 Says:

    I don’t care if McClain is completely exonerated of all charges, if the Raiders can get rid of him, they should.

  390. DJ Johnny Says:

    Colin Cowherd said “I’d say the Raider fans are sixth. They haven’t been to the playoffs in 10 yrs. Not trying to rile up Raider fans but you just aren’t that formidable of a franchise…right now.”

    -Cowherd on his list of the top 10 most delusional fan bases.

  391. Dakota Says:

    Bcc, why is mcclains cut number so low? Did it have something to do with the uncapped year?

  392. Bob Marley Says:

    bcz24

    I don’t care if McClain is completely exonerated of all charges, if the Raiders can get rid of him, they should.

    —————————————————

    They can get rid of him, incident or no incident, at least it certainly looks that way, you take a big cap hit next year but overall save millions over the next 3-4 years.

    The question is, why didn’t Reggie and DA do it?.

    Maybe it’s because they think he can play, as opposed to most people in here.

  393. Just Fire Baby Says:

    What an embarrassment the Heat are.

    They put up about as much of a fight as this Tapscott feller.

    One big hay-maker, than curl up in the fetal position.

    Maybe Lebron should get a mouthpiece with a 6 or 7 roman numeral instead of his 16.

  394. Raider O Says:

    Lol TW.
    What do you think we should with McClain?

  395. Raider O Says:

    Speaking of the fetal position, do you guys remember Seymour slapping big Ben?
    Still LMAO.

  396. RaiderTW Says:

    DO?
    Get outta his contract & the Cheifs will take him like the other scrubs like Quinn.

  397. Raider O Says:

    Bob Marley,

    I agree with your posts about McClain.

  398. downsouthraider Says:

    Colin Cowherd said “I’d say the Raider fans are sixth. They haven’t been to the playoffs in 10 yrs. Not trying to rile up Raider fans but you just aren’t that formidable of a franchise…right now.”

    -Cowherd on his list of the top 10 most delusional fan bases.
    ————————————————————-
    Cowherd has the intelligence of a gnat.

  399. R8derdiehard Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 7:00 pm
    What an embarrassment the Heat are.

    They put up about as much of a fight as this Tapscott feller.

    One big hay-maker, than curl up in the fetal position.

    Maybe Lebron should get a mouthpiece with a 6 or 7 roman numeral instead of his 16.
    …………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………

    LOL’! Now that’s funny

  400. DJ Johnny Says:

    398.downsouthraider Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 7:04 pm
    Colin Cowherd said “I’d say the Raider fans are sixth. They haven’t been to the playoffs in 10 yrs. Not trying to rile up Raider fans but you just aren’t that formidable of a franchise…right now.”

    -Cowherd on his list of the top 10 most delusional fan bases.
    ————————————————————-
    Cowherd has the intelligence of a gnat.

    I agree. He’s a dork. He has that dorky looking face. The kind of face that irritates me with its advanced dorkiness.

    He really didn’t come off like he was diparaging the Raider fans.

    It came off more as we as Raider fans acting like we’re perennial contenders and we haven’t done much lately.

  401. Oakland Raiders Links That You’ll Want To See May 17, 2012 | Raiders Central | Oakland Raiders Blog Says:

    [...] Judge: McClain guilty on all counts; sentenced to 180 days in jail Raiders middle linebacker Rolando McClain was found guilty Thursday of assault, reckless endangerment, menacing and wrongful discharge of a firearm by a Decatur (Ala.) Municipal Court judge, the television station WHNT-19 reported. [...]

  402. RAIDER NATION STATION http://www.raidernationstation.com/ Says:

    Sux about McClain.

    Have a good night Nation!~

  403. Raider O Says:

    TW,

    I’m not ready to give up on him.

  404. Dakota Says:

    Vegas,

    Lexi!!!

  405. DJ Johnny Says:

    403.Raider O Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 7:28 pm
    TW,

    I’m not ready to give up on him.

    Me either but he’s a distraction and a problem right now.

    Maybe he can stil play this yr. but we can’t afford to wait around hoping he doesn’t get suspended and have all this uncertainty.

  406. DJ Johnny Says:

    One thing that worries me about this season is Palmer going down…then what? I think they (defenses) will go after him…much like KC did.

    Me personally? I’d rather see Pryor come in and save the day.

    We’re hearing some good things about him.

    6′6 245 lbs.? Big dude and fast. He’s getting better with his passing technique from what we hear.

    Can’t wait to see him in preseason. In my mind, Leinart has had his chance.

  407. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I am recording it right now.

    I told you Kepner was warming up to me!!!!

  408. Raidernationdave Says:

    F*ck you Collin!

    ___________________

    DJ Johnny Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 7:15 pm

    398.downsouthraider Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 7:04 pm
    Colin Cowherd said “I’d say the Raider fans are sixth. They haven’t been to the playoffs in 10 yrs. Not trying to rile up Raider fans but you just aren’t that formidable of a franchise…right now.”

    -Cowherd on his list of the top 10 most delusional fan bases.
    ————————————————————-
    Cowherd has the intelligence of a gnat.

    I agree. He’s a dork. He has that dorky looking face. The kind of face that irritates me with its advanced dorkiness.

    He really didn’t come off like he was diparaging the Raider fans.

    It came off more as we as Raider fans acting like we’re perennial contenders and we haven’t done much lately.

  409. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Sold BO told his old literary agency he was born in Kenya to sell books.

    What a tool

  410. wasbanned Says:

    DJ Johnny Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 7:15 pm

    398.downsouthraider Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 7:04 pm
    Colin Cowherd said “I’d say the Raider fans are sixth. They haven’t been to the playoffs in 10 yrs. Not trying to rile up Raider fans but you just aren’t that formidable of a franchise…right now.”

    -Cowherd on his list of the top 10 most delusional fan bases.
    ————————————————————-
    Cowherd has the intelligence of a gnat.

    I agree. He’s a dork. He has that dorky looking face. The kind of face that irritates me with its advanced dorkiness.

    He really didn’t come off like he was diparaging the Raider fans.

    It came off more as we as Raider fans acting like we’re perennial contenders and we haven’t done much lately.
    …..

    Cowherd came up in Seattle. He got to see the Raiders beat down his Seachickens every year.

    Now he’s a Brady home and thinks because the Patriots are good he can dis other franchises.

    He will never give the Raiders love though due to his Seattle upbringing.

  411. Raider O Says:

    Clippers!!!

  412. wasbanned Says:

    McClain will be suspended 4-8 games at least by the NFL. If he doesn’t get his sentence reduced or suspended at jury trial he will miss 2012 because he’s in jail and 1/4 to 1/2 of 2013 serving his league suspension.

    What a waste.

  413. RaiderDuck Says:

    Anybody else think the Raiders’ official McClain statement was a masterpiece of “No, we’re absolutely NOT standing behind him, ThankYouVeryMuch”?

    I hope we cut him sooner rather than later.

  414. KoolKell Says:

    What statements?

  415. Dakota Says:

    I am so bummed.

  416. Raider O Says:

    Clippers have no chance.

  417. Raider O Says:

    Fire Del Negro now!

  418. J Hill Says:

    And hire who, O?

    What is going to be that new coaches answer for teams throwing a bigger player on Paul and taking him out of the game?

    Will that new coach bench Jordan and his 20% FT shootin arsse?

  419. Raider O Says:

    They need to add more talent, but Del Negro is not ready to be a HC for a POs team IMO.
    They should hire the BCA.

  420. Raider O Says:

    You should be more concerned about your fakers. You guys need a new HC, and your talent is getting old.

  421. RaiderTW Says:

    409- yeah Breitbart & Drudge are as reliable as book cover blurbs.

  422. Dakota Says:

    Go pacers!

  423. DJ Johnny Says:

    You know how some people have the kind of face you just wanna punch.

    Cowherd has such a face.

    Elway had it. Shanahan has it. Kerry Collins had it. Every time he’d throw a pick they’d zero in on his half open mouth and that dork-like expressionless ‘duhhh’ look on his face.

    Then at the end of last yr. he says “i’m not gonna work for peanuts”.

  424. DJ Johnny Says:

    I can’t adequately express how sweet it would be if Indiana sent Miami home for the remainder of the playoffs.

  425. DJ Johnny Says:

    Is it just me or is Michelle Beadle one of the hottest chicks in sports media?

  426. Dakota Says:

    She’s nice looking.

  427. DJ Johnny Says:

    #426,

    Yeah “hot” might not be the best adjective to describe her.

    Not overtly sexy in a super model sort of way but just really really “cute” for lack of a better word…and sexy in her own kind of “girl next door” way.

  428. Thec Says:

    Michelle Beadle is a BW…..Basic Woman

  429. DJ Johnny Says:

    Miami losing to the Pacers and going home almost seems too good to be true.

  430. Thec Says:

    Good article, Palmer and Ford beleive we are set at Wr….

    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2012/05/16/SPHQ1OIVR3.DTL

  431. J Hill Says:

    I’ll worry about the lakers tmw.

    They are done.

    Right now, we are watching the Slippers get spanked and one of their fans blaming the coach.

  432. DJ Johnny Says:

    428.Thec Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 8:49 pm
    Michelle Beadle is a BW…..Basic Woman

    You mean “average”?

  433. Thec Says:

    DJ Johnny Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
    428.Thec Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 8:49 pm
    Michelle Beadle is a BW…..Basic Woman

    You mean “average”?

    +++++++

    No I meant BW…She is basic, nothing exciting.
    Basic Rack
    Basic Face
    Basic Azz

  434. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Damn Grey’s Anatomy, your going to do me like that after all these years??

    Tear-jerker!!!

  435. lefty12 Says:

    DJ-comment 348-Nice job.

  436. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Beadle’s best quality is her sense of humor.

    Needs some fakies before she can holler though.

  437. DJ Johnny Says:

    Thec,

    Well…to each his own. Something about her does it for me. I like her sense of humor too but I can do w/o the ‘fakies’. Again…to each his own.

  438. DJ Johnny Says:

    Thanks Lefty. I assume you’re one of those who doesn’t blame the ‘Dark Lord’ for global warming either?

  439. wasbanned Says:

    lol… Spurs rollin

  440. Raider O Says:

    LOL J.
    Enjoy the show.
    Fire Del Negro!

  441. DJ Johnny Says:

    I wonder what Wade was yelling at Spoelstra about?
    That Heat Pacer series is really getting interesting.

    Seeing the Heat lose is one of the great joys in life.

  442. DJ Johnny Says:

    “not one championship, not two, not three, not four, not five, six seven…..”

  443. DJ Johnny Says:

    Well, the McClain conviction isn’t even one of the top football stories of the day.

    One of those times when it’s nice that the Raiders fly under the radar.

  444. beach Says:

    Nice way to show gratitude for your grandfather’s life, you horse’s a _ _ McClain!

  445. beach Says:

    442. Exactly. ZERO championships are in LeBron’s future, as long as Spoelstra and no center are in Miami.

  446. cool cat on a hot tin roof Says:

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8292b47e/article/cowboys-raiders-tebow-fans-rated-most-delusional?module=HP11_headline_stack

    whut?

  447. cool cat on a hot tin roof Says:

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8292b10e/article/former-jets-punter-mark-sanchez-hasnt-developed

    whut?

    sanchez will be a raidah before you know it.

  448. cool cat on a hot tin roof Says:

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8292a667/article/rolando-mcclain-sentenced-to-180-days-in-jail?module=HP11_headline_stack

    whut? not good.

  449. Raider E Says:

    McClain was sentenced to 45 days on each charge. Now these sentences usually run concurrent meaning that with good time he will be out in 30 days. Anybody ever think of that?

  450. Raidernationdave Says:

    DJ Johnny Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 8:44 pm

    #426,

    Yeah “hot” might not be the best adjective to describe her.

    Not overtly sexy in a super model sort of way but just really really “cute” for lack of a better word…and sexy in her own kind of “girl next door” way.
    _________________________

    C’mon dudes…you know these are the BEST women to have and to be around!

    Most can suck start a John Deere tractor that’s been dead twenty years and they’ll kiss you when their done and do your f*ckin’ laundry for you all in the same day!

    Let’s hear it for the “plain Jane’s” of the world!!

  451. DJ Johnny Says:

    There ya go Raiderdave.

    Plus, Michelle will sit and watch the game with ya.

  452. royal odor Says:

    Raiders still gonna win the Lomabardi this year and bring it back to Oakland.

  453. raiderk Says:

    bet he’s not smiling now. Raiders should cut their loses now. Not pay him a dime.

  454. J-Raider Says:

    if rolando doesnt get to practice or play a majority of this season, im betting the reggie trades him the first day of next years draft.. he could possibly get a 4th for him since he is still young. then our draft next year should go something like:

    round 1-QB
    round 3-LB
    round 4-RB
    round 4-DB
    round 5-DT
    round 6-LB
    round 7-DE

  455. captain carpet cleaner Says:

    McClain was sentenced to 180 days in jail. It’s unclear how much of that time he actually will serve in jail. He was released on bond and will appeal the ruling, according to his lawyer.

    ——————————————————

    Since he is out on bond, can he leave the state of bama and fly to oakland to go to work? Do the raiders even want him at camp or can he leave the state of bama?

  456. J-Raider Says:

    raiderk,

    we gotta pay him this year regardless.. he wont be a contributer this season now, allen and reggie know it. just a waste really. but like i said, we keep him and let him play when he comes back from jail/suspension, then trade him when teams make stupid decisions right before the draft to get more value out of him. maybe get a 3rd but seems more like a 4th unless he plays lights out when he comes back.

  457. J-Raider Says:

    if he bonded out, he most likely cant leave the state.. especially since this is an assalt case(potential threat)

  458. DJ Johnny Says:

    #435,

    Good question.

    He’s probably hiding behind a tree waving a gun in the air, stalking the guy who agreed to testify against him.

    What’s sad is he really could be doing that.

  459. Raider E Says:

    Im telling you guys, if Mcclain does any time it will be 30 days period. Multiple sentences always run concurrent. You guys are crazy with your notions of 180 days.

  460. J-Raider Says:

    just really pi$$es me off when guys like rolando waste thier god given talent, when there are other guys that love the game and would do anything to have talent like him. he isnt a raider in my book.

  461. Raider E Says:

    You fellas just go on and keep avoiding the obvious. He will be out in 30 if he even does 1 day.

  462. hendu Says:

    IMO, one pulls out a gun in self defense, the home, family, country, or the range. That said, I hope they keep McClain, period. If He gets a jury trial, who knows what will happen. Let things play out.

  463. DJ Johnny Says:

    Raider E,

    Ok, so he serves the 30 days but what about Goodell and what he has to say?

  464. J-Raider Says:

    raider e,

    hes probably going to get a suspension from goodell regardless of how many days hes in jail. jail time = suspension. and this is a new regime that has zero ties to a waste of talent like mcclain. hes gone after this season unless he blows everyone away with awe inspiring plays this year(which will not happen of course)

  465. KoolKell Says:

    Well , he’s convicted, so the NFL will suspend him. Maybe for a year.

  466. J-Raider Says:

    hendu,

    i hear what your sayin man, but seriously? we shouldnt have to deal with this kind of stuff from a “cant miss prospect” out of college. getting a dui is different from running around with thugs and shootin a couple rounds off next to a guys ear, ya know what i mean?? he is a freak athlete and im sure everyone in here thought he was gonna be ALOT better than he is so far, and now this crap? this new regime might not let this pass.

  467. J-Raider Says:

    not a year, more like 4 games. look at the bounty gate going on with the saints, and only vilma got a 1 year suspension. this isnt comparable to what he did.

  468. J-Raider Says:

    at least kirk stayed out of trouble, and he actually loved this team. too bad he didnt pan out..

  469. Raider E Says:

    Johnny,

    I say Goodell puts the fist down at around 4-6 games.

  470. JB Says:

    mcskinnnylegs Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 3:21 pm

    alright so whe did we let t.scott go i loved his skills at lb thnk he would get some playing time anyone know if hes on another team trevor scott that is
    ********************

    He never really recovered from that knee injury. That’s why he’s gone.

  471. DJ Johnny Says:

    E,

    4-6? Seems about what he might do.

    It’ll be ineteresting to see what Reggie does about this. Especially finding out if there’s an escape clause that could save the $$$ they have in for him.

  472. SouthTexasRaider Says:

    Its time for his replacement to start stepping up. A real big spot will be opening up soon…

    RAIDER FAHQIN NATION BABY!

  473. Raider E Says:

    Johnny,

    I dont think McClain is gonna last long in the starting line up anyway even with a full training camp. For lack of a better analysis, DUDE SUCKS….

  474. J-Raider Says:

    t scott is a phuckin patriot now..

  475. Hardline Says:

    Raider E Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 10:25 pm
    Im telling you guys, if Mcclain does any time it will be 30 days period. Multiple sentences always run concurrent. You guys are crazy with your notions of 180 days.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Raider E,

    Thanks for the legal advice. However Judge Cook sentenced McClain to 180 days, not to run concurrently.

    Now if McGenius had pleaded out to a single count and not gone to trial, he probably would have received 30 days or less, and maybe just probation.

  476. Hardline Says:

    DJ Johnny Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 10:21 pm
    #435,

    Good question.

    He’s probably hiding behind a tree waving a gun in the air, stalking the guy who agreed to testify against him.

    What’s sad is he really could be doing that.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    DJ Johnny,

    Good point: maybe he is creeping around right now, in the ghetto looking for his best X-friend, who turned over on him. I hope he doesn’t catch one between the eyes; in that case the Raiders might be on the hook to McClain’s estate for the balance of his contract money.

  477. J-Raider Says:

    i say he gets traded next years draft.. value is higher at that point.

  478. Raider E Says:

    Raider E Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 10:25 pm
    Im telling you guys, if Mcclain does any time it will be 30 days period. Multiple sentences always run concurrent. You guys are crazy with your notions of 180 days.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Raider E,

    Thanks for the legal advice. However Judge Cook sentenced McClain to 180 days, not to run concurrently.

    Now if McGenius had pleaded out to a single count and not gone to trial, he probably would have received 30 days or less, and maybe just probation.

    —————————

    Hardline,

    Where do get this info. cause I have not read any thing like that, where you there?

  479. DJ Johnny Says:

    E,

    Lol. I like the way you put that.

    Some guys here like him and think he’s ok.

    He lost me at the “Stafford Whiff”…but I was willing to give him another chance with different (hopefully better) coaching.

    Maybe we see Burris alot sooner, and in a lot bigger role than we thought.

  480. J-Raider Says:

    burris= clay mathews

    reggie knew what he was doing when he drafted that guy :)

  481. Hardline Says:

    Raider E,

    “McClain was sentenced to 180 days in jail. It’s unclear how much of that time he actually will serve in jail.”

    It doesn’t say that McClain got 45days/count, the 4 counts to run concurrently. The presumption then is that he got a straight up 180 days.

    On appeal he’ll probably lose, but if he prevails and gets a jury trail, possibly he’ll get a full year per count.

    Now then, if in the great southern tradition McClain serves his time on a chain gang making little rocks out of big ones, he’ll come out a lot tougher and in a lot better shape. Also, he’ll get his azz kicked at least once a day by big, nasty cons: this will also do him good.

    Actually, I wouldn’t fire him just yet. See what he’s like after he does his time and comes out. Maybe he’ll be a chieseled out Mofo, tough and bad as nails, fast and nimble as a deer due to running from those cons.

  482. DJ Johnny Says:

    Hardline,

    You really think McClain will be running from anybody?

    He’s a pretty big dude himself.

  483. Hardline Says:

    DJ,

    As an alternative to jail time I think the Nation needs to set up a gauntlet, comprised of two parallel lines of fans maybe 50 yds in length. The fans would be equipped with light weight paddles and McClain would have to make it through the gauntlet while being “thwacked” all the way in and out.

    Who knows….hope springs eternal, lol !

  484. Hardline Says:

    DJ Johnny Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 11:12 pm
    Hardline,

    You really think McClain will be running from anybody?

    He’s a pretty big dude himself.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    DJ,

    He’ll be running like hell. You’ll see that jelly rolling and throbbing as he went. Remember, one-on-one in prison isn’t the standard. Normally it’s a group beat down.

  485. DJ Johnny Says:

    Hardline,

    I like it.

    I’m in.

  486. Hardline Says:

    DJ,

    Did you ever see “Stir Crazy?” Pryor and Wilder are in the tank upon first being arrested, and one guy takes a swing at Wilder. Wilder ducks and the punch catches the buffed out black guy wearing a cowboy hat right in the jaw – and doesn’t even phase him.

    I can see McClain doing that with the same result behind bars. Except at that time it will be on, and yeah, McClain will be running.

  487. DJ Johnny Says:

    Shoot. I’m falling asleep.

    Into the arms of Morpheus I go.

    Nite yall.

  488. DJ Johnny Says:

    Hardline,

    Ha. I remember that scene. One of the funniest of that movie and there were a alot of ‘em.

    Gene Wilder was hilarious.

  489. backstageatapuppetshow Says:

    You mean the WACO KID?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8RbYqZnFvE

  490. Hardline Says:

    Backstage,

    No, it was “Stir Crazy” where Pryor and Wilder were framed for a bank robbery in AZ and got 60 yrs a piece.

  491. Try Some Reality Says:

    Guilty on all counts, eh? What a shame. Goodell will not be lenient with this. Firing a gun next to someone’s head may be a misdemeanor in bass ackwwards Alabama, but I can assure you it’s much more serious in Goodell’s book.

  492. antispy3 Says:

    Shouldn’t Philadelphia fans in general be somewhere in the top 10 of delusional fans? Seems to me, outside of the Flyers the Philadelphia teams are bested by the cheesesteak sandwich. . .

    Who would be the Gene Wilder to McClain’s Richard Pryor?

    And who would be their roommate they “tamed?”

    Finally, pretty scary when anyone has first hand knowledge of what goes down in prison. . .I’ve lived a relatively sheltered life in that regard. . .TMI for my virgin ears. . .LOL

  493. Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:

    This place is sad.

    Just Win Baby.

  494. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 4:29 am

    This place is sad.

    Just Win Baby.
    _________________________________________________________

    Heaven? or Hell?

  495. oldschoolraider Says:

    In most criminal cases the sentences run concurrent.
    If the judge specifically requests consecutive sentences hes trying to make an example of the defendent.
    The most McClain can hope for on appeal is a sentence reduction. 45 days instead of 180.

  496. guest123 Says:

    Bob Marley Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 6:58 pm
    bcz24

    I don’t care if McClain is completely exonerated of all charges, if the Raiders can get rid of him, they should.

    —————————————————

    They can get rid of him, incident or no incident, at least it certainly looks that way, you take a big cap hit next year but overall save millions over the next 3-4 years.

    The question is, why didn’t Reggie and DA do it?.

    Maybe it’s because they think he can play, as opposed to most people in here.

    **********

    Headscratching that Reggie didn’t move on McClain earlier. He’s certainly another of the “outta wack” contracts, even before this incident and guilty verdict. Seems like a no-brainer to me to cut him and reap a huge amount of savings down the road. Next year, Reggie can worry about the cap hit by restructuring and cutting. Just lance the wound already.

  497. guest123 Says:

    oldschoolraider Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 4:47 am
    In most criminal cases the sentences run concurrent.
    If the judge specifically requests consecutive sentences hes trying to make an example of the defendent.
    The most McClain can hope for on appeal is a sentence reduction. 45 days instead of 180.

    *******

    Not in Alabama.

  498. JLofty Says:

    Why so sad DHST?

  499. guest123 Says:

    What’s crazy is that as others have mentioned, if the same actions were done in California, he’d be looking at least 2 years in lockup. 180 days is a slap on the wrist, so he shouldn’t complain.

  500. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Reggie should just let Mayor McCheese go. He can’t play anyways.

  501. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Was listening to Michael Lombardy on B.S. report. He was talking about the time he and Bellicheck met Jerry West. West told them to always save your cap room and look to the future not the present. Too bad Al wasn’t there also.

  502. guest123 Says:

    Well in fairness to Al, when you are pushing into your 80’s, it’s kind of hard to think about the future. The point is to win before you die.

  503. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Guest, look where that got him.

  504. guest123 Says:

    Not saying it was right to mortgage the future to win now. But Al’s ego was always bigger than the team itself. It’s that ego that made the franchise great, but the flip side is the dark end of a desperate man trying to will himself another title regardless of future consequences. Could we have expected anything less of a man who built a team he loved so much for over 50 years?

  505. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Probably not, but it just shows how much Al needed to hire a GM. He had been mortgaging the future for 20 years to try and get that ring.

  506. guest123 Says:

    We all know what Al should have done. It’s all hindsight now. Remember, Al was like that garage computer nerd that experimented and ended up with a corporation like Apple. He was a pioneer who did it for the love of the game and to win. When the money got big, the whole thing became corporate and he was out of his element, and outgunned. Everyone revered him openly, but behind the scenes were easily outfoxing him using a corporate structure that has been proven to work better than a monarchist style of management.

  507. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Al ran the Raiders like Bush ran the country. He left his successor with a train wreck.

  508. hwnrdr Says:

    Good Morning Nation!!!

  509. raiderjhawk Says:

    post 507… agreed.

  510. RaiderRockstar Says:

    The financial situation makes it very tempting to cut McClain.

    If indeed we save 1.2 million this year, are on the hook for about 6 million next year anyway and the net “loss” of 2013 cap space for cutting him is only 600 K more….leading to future savings of 13 million over the next what? 3-4 years, you almost have to do it.

    Just read Paul G’s article on Romac. According to him, the 8 million dollar cap hit due to the acceleration of 55’s signing bonus wont actually hit us until next season, seems we CAN actually cut him. This is good news IMO. I would sign EJ Henderson for a year to run the defense while some of these younger guys get up to speed, or until we can get a stud MLB next year.

    I don’t care if McClain is completely exonerated of all charges, if the Raiders can get rid of him, they should

    ***

    co-signed Marley & Bcz !!!

  511. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Shane Battier & Dexter Pittman in the starting five ??

    result = combined 0-9 and zero points in 26 minutes

    Dwade was really off his game. Bosh was out

    LeBron can’t do it all!

  512. RaiderDuck Says:

    Paul G. posted yesterday that if Reggie were to cut McClain before the season starts, it would be a cap savings of $1.2 mil this year and a cap hit of $500,000 next year (his cap number would be $7.1 mil, as opposed to the $6.6 mil it would be if he’s still on the roster).

  513. RaiderDuck Says:

    And RRS and I once again post something at almost the same time. :-P

  514. RaiderRockstar Says:

    good morning, Duck!

  515. RaiderRockstar Says:

    the way the Heat played last night, they should have got beat by 40 points.

    the Pacers just aren’t that good imo

    Miami will win Game 4 on Sunday … 76ers & Lakers may win tonight

  516. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Lebron is struggling to outplay Danny Granger.

    I guess winning not four, or five or six titles, takes a little more work than beating Milwaukee in February, wearing a cool mouthpiece that has the number of playoff wins needed to win the title, and throwing a victory parade before playing a game.

    Who knew????

  517. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Mayor McCheese needs to go.

  518. RaiderRockstar Says:

    @JFB

    LeBron is 0-2 since winning the MVP

    if that doesn’t serve as a wake up call, I don’t know what possibly could.

    just win, baby!

  519. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Eventually you are going to find a team that is going to punch you in the mouth and see if you respond.

    Lebron’s response is too flop, not fight back.

    You see that elbow that West barely caught Lebron with, and he flops and gets no call. He got up in shock that there wasn’t a call, like someone stole his binky.

    David West is an amateur boxer. He will continue to fight, battle, scratch and claw, and get in the Heats face at every turn.

    They don’t want none of it.

  520. RaiderDuck Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 6:11 am
    good morning, Duck!

    ============================================

    Morning, good sir.

  521. RaiderRockstar Says:

    as much as I think I know Reggie & Dennis, I really don’t…

    it wouldn’t surprise me to see this whole thing blow over. McClain found innocent in the jury trial, gets a few game suspension by the league, continues to start at MLB for the Raiders

    that would be unfortunate. I think there’s a 50-50 chance thats the way it goes down though

  522. hwnrdr Says:

    If the Heat don’t pull it off, I can see Indiana taking Boston to 6! Could get interesting…in teh West, the way the Spurs are playing, I can’t see them not taking it all! If you think about it, they took the Grizzlies lightly last year! I think they shoudl have been going for the repeat this year! But, that is why they play the game!!!

  523. Just Fire Baby Says:

    If Rolando were a WR, he would be cut already.

    We are just so thin at LB, you got to at least kick around the idea of seeing how this plays out and keeping him around for at least one more year.

  524. hwnrdr Says:

    I can see that as well! Can he come back until the trial? We’ll see what happens!

  525. RaiderRockstar Says:

    OKC/Spurs is going to be great to watch in a fight for the West …

    Boston & Miami have a chance, but I don’t think the Pacers or 76ers could make any noise in the Finals if they make it that far – could get swept (not enough star power)

  526. RaiderDuck Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 6:18 am
    as much as I think I know Reggie & Dennis, I really don’t…

    it wouldn’t surprise me to see this whole thing blow over. McClain found innocent in the jury trial, gets a few game suspension by the league, continues to start at MLB for the Raiders

    that would be unfortunate. I think there’s a 50-50 chance thats the way it goes down though

    ============================================

    If they keep him at this point, it’s because they believe he still has potential to become a quality MLB.

    It’s simply a matter of whether or not the potential outweighs the headaches.

  527. guest123 Says:

    While it’s true we are very thin at LB, McClain offers no quality depth worth concerning ourselves over. Maybe he could have revived his career under Allen/Tarver. But with his season in doubt, it’s time to move on and cut him now. He’s of no use to us as depth if he’s not available anyway.

  528. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Pacers are as good of team as any, IMO.

    They are exceptionally long and athletic, AT EVERY POSITION, and off the bench.

    George, Granger, West, Hibbert are all very cerebral players, who make the pass and play great defense and team basketball.

    They had the 5th best record in the entire NBA this season and one of the best road records (defense travels as the saying goes).

  529. hwnrdr Says:

    Oh, and go A’s! Hey JFB, isn’t it A’s/Giants this weekend?

  530. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    It’s going to be OKC or Spurs winning it all.

  531. J Hill Says:

    Hard to argue with the chance to dump the last of those bad rookie contracts, Bob.

    But if 55 is the best LB on the team at the end of camp, do you still make that move?

  532. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    I kind of want another Lakers and Celtics finals. Probably aint going to happen, though.

  533. guest123 Says:

    If they keep him at this point, it’s because they believe he still has potential to become a quality MLB.

    ********

    I think they did see the potential. But Reggie’s been harping about “accountability” in the new reggime. Time to put words into actions and practice what you preach.

  534. bcz24 Says:

    I think if the Reggieme can find a suitable replacement, NOT Travis Goethel, McClain could be gone. As I said last night I really think EJ Henderson would be a very good bridge for 1 year until either one of our young guys steps up or we can draft a new mlb next season.

  535. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    J Hill Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 6:27 am
    Hard to argue with the chance to dump the last of those bad rookie contracts, Bob.

    But if 55 is the best LB on the team at the end of camp, do you still make that move?
    ———
    If 55 is the best LB at the end of camp, we are screwed anyways.

  536. Just Fire Baby Says:

    With George, Granger and Hibbert, the Pacers go into almost EVERY game with a size advantage at the 2,3 and 5 spots.

    And it’s not like West and Hill are smurfs either.

    That is tough to deal with in a 7 game series, and has clearly thrown Wade and Bron-Bron off their games.

  537. guest123 Says:

    535. you just typed what I was thinking. lol

  538. bcz24 Says:

    But if 55 is the best LB on the team at the end of camp, do you still make that move?
    ************
    I would be very surprised if they make the move after camp. If they intend to replace McClain they have to do it before camp opens, so the new guy can get as much run with 1’s and calling the defense as possible.

  539. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Oh, and go A’s! Hey JFB, isn’t it A’s/Giants this weekend?

    *************************

    Bet your azz, we get the express delight of watching Zito tonight!!!

    He has pitched OK this year, but the A’s lineup is the type to give him fits.

  540. hwnrdr Says:

    539.Just Fire Baby Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 6:30 am
    Oh, and go A’s! Hey JFB, isn’t it A’s/Giants this weekend?

    *************************

    Bet your azz, we get the express delight of watching Zito tonight!!!

    He has pitched OK this year, but the A’s lineup is the type to give him fits.

    I think Zito only beat his old team once, and that was last year right? Anyways, for the last few years it was always a sweep for the home team!

  541. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I think if the Reggieme can find a suitable replacement, NOT Travis Goethel, McClain could be gone. As I said last night I really think EJ Henderson would be a very good bridge for 1 year until either one of our young guys steps up or we can draft a new mlb next season.

    I would be very surprised if they make the move after camp. If they intend to replace McClain they have to do it before camp opens, so the new guy can get as much run with 1’s and calling the defense as possible.

    ***

    Bcz = right again

    he’s usually in a good mood on Fridays. So far he’s 10/10 in free throws too

  542. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Oakland is the land of opportunity & competition

    you HAVE TO let Goethel & Stupar compete for the MLB job, don’t you?

    I mean, how fair is that to sign a guy off the street and name him the starter before he even learns the defense??

  543. DJ Johnny Says:

    533.guest123 Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 6:27 am
    If they keep him at this point, it’s because they believe he still has potential to become a quality MLB.

    ********

    I think they did see the potential. But Reggie’s been harping about “accountability” in the new reggime. Time to put words into actions and practice what you preach.

    But Reggie would have an “out” card in the sense that McClain did this deed BEFORE Reggie came on board.

    Keep in mind he’s already brought in a ‘questionable’ guy in Brandon Underwood…who by the way I have not heard one mention of since these camps started.

  544. neilb Says:

    Been working solid the last couple of days so I’ve just got the McClain news.

    Reggie and Dirty Den must be pulling their hair out right now.First DHB now this.

  545. guest123 Says:

    I agree with bringing in a vet LB and getting him cranked up to start calling signals ASAP. Relying on Travis Goethel as the starting MLB is like having Denarius Moore or DHB go down and proclaim Chaz Schilens to be your new #1 WR.

  546. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I think the question is, what starting calibur player can we get for 1.2 million this year ??

    sounds like Reggie & Dennis need to have another massive tryout!!

    this time for a new MLB ..

    invite 10 players

    Henderson
    Brooking
    Brackett
    McIntosh
    Davis
    Farrior
    Diggs
    Gaither
    Torbor
    Adibi

  547. J Hill Says:

    G123 and ABP,

    I understand that the 2 of you don’t like 55 and would have shipped him out of town last season. At least G123 acknowledges the GM and HC think 55 can play.

    There is no arguing that 55 was our best LB last year.

    Are you really telling me we all of a sudden have 3 LBs better than 55?

    Who?

  548. JT Says:

    with apropiate coaching #55 is our best LB, he has potential, he’s the type of player that will get a second chance and mau flourish.

    did not ray lewis go to jail?

    I see the pats picking #55 if he gets cut.

  549. DJ Johnny Says:

    I think so much depends on if Reggie can get rid of McClain w/o paying him. The NFLPA wouldn’t like that one bit and wold certainly fight it but i’m sure he’s looking into the possibility.

    Sad that we’re down to EJ Henderson as the best FA agent “stud” we could possibly bring in.

  550. neilb Says:

    I just keep seeing that stupid smile before got put in the police car.

  551. DJ Johnny Says:

    548.JT Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 6:40 am
    with apropiate coaching #55 is our best LB, he has potential, he’s the type of player that will get a second chance and mau flourish.

    did not ray lewis go to jail?

    I see the pats picking #55 if he gets cut.

    He’s probably watching film with Belichik at the Decatur Super 8 as we speak.

  552. bcz24 Says:

    I mean, how fair is that to sign a guy off the street and name him the starter before he even learns the defense??
    *********************
    I don’t think fair matters. You are bringing in an established vet to help these young guys (a 6th and a 7th round pick in Goethel and Stupar)learn the role for a year. You dont have to be fair, you have to do whats best for the organization.

    Gary Brackett is another vet mlb out there, not a great player, but a good solid vet that can teach these young kids the ropes.

  553. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Reggie would have an “out” card in the sense that McClain did this deed BEFORE Reggie came on board

    ***

    @DJG

    I agree, however – don’t you think Reggie & Dennis would have questionned him about this as soon as they came to work in Oakland? They knew he had a 05/17 court date and what it was for. Why would they openly support a player that would eventually face 6 months jail time and then draft a bunch of choir boys??

    I think if Rolando had the balls to lie to Hue Jackson about this, he probably lied to Reggie & Dennis as well. As G123 points out; honor, trust, character, integrity & accountability are the new slogans in Oakland. Allen dismissed the notion of being “bad boys” and admitted he doesn’t want that reputation. He wants to be disciplined.

    McClain has NOTHING Reggie & Dennis are looking for in a young man on this football team. Whether or not they think the football player can be salvaged may be another story!

  554. Thec Says:

    What up NATION?

  555. Thec Says:

    neilb Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 6:40 am
    I just keep seeing that stupid smile before got put in the police car.

    +++++++++

    Makes you wonder what he was on…He sure is dumb though.

  556. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I don’t think fair matters. You are bringing in an established vet to help these young guys (a 6th and a 7th round pick in Goethel and Stupar)learn the role for a year. You dont have to be fair, you have to do whats best for the organization.

    ***

    I agree with this, Bcz.

    but Pryor gets to compete with Leinart!

    why couldn’t Goethel & Stupar compete with Henderson, Brackett or some other vet??

    I’m not against bringing in a talented vet, just think he should have to compete for a job like everybody else. no more scholarships!

  557. Thec Says:

    Fair competition all around. while you are at it throw MBURRIS in the mix. He has the instincts and motor.

    He also says he can play ALL LB positions…

    Which ever direction we go i will trust the org.

  558. Thec Says:

    honor, trust, character, integrity & accountability

    ++++++++=

    So McCheese is not a stand up guy.

  559. Just Fire Baby Says:

    For this fragile defense from last year, starting some rookies and unprovens at LB, especially MLB, just doesn’t strike me as a recipe for success.

    I realize that McClain made his bed and now must lay in it, but I hate on the job training, and asking Burris or Goethel to go start week 1 at MLB, and yeah, watch out for that Manning guy as well, seems like a 40 point night waiting to happen.

  560. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Fair competition all around. while you are at it throw MBURRIS in the mix. He has the instincts and motor.

    He also says he can play ALL LB positions…

    Which ever direction we go i will trust the org.

    ***

    @Thec

    you’re right. Burris could seize a starting job, be it MLB or OLB (if Curry gets moved inside)

  561. DJ Johnny Says:

    I see McClain as a guy who for the first time in nhis life had to leave his home in Alabama…where he was comfortable and among friends and family who probably worshipped him. The fighting, thuggery etc. were what he and his friends did growing up apparently.

    Now, he’s got all this money and it’s no fun if you cant go home and show off for your all your old friends. He probably just doesn’t wanna grow up so he goes back to doing the same stuff he and his pals used to do. What we see on that tape is a peek into what his life was probably like as a teenager…guys being gangsta wannabees etc.

    McClain doesn’t strike me as having a good upbringing. I could be wrong, but I hear no mention of any father figure type guy in his life.

    We all saw how Jamarcus went down the tubes when his uncle passed.

    It’s too bad, but he’s got millions he can live on for awhile at least…maybe.

  562. Thec Says:

    McCheese in NOT a leader of men.

  563. RaiderRockstar Says:

    @DJG

    Poor Rolando.

  564. Thec Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 6:59 am
    For this fragile defense from last year, starting some rookies and unprovens at LB, especially MLB, just doesn’t strike me as a recipe for success.

    I realize that McClain made his bed and now must lay in it, but I hate on the job training, and asking Burris or Goethel to go start week 1 at MLB, and yeah, watch out for that Manning guy as well, seems like a 40 point night waiting to happen.

    +++++=

    I disagree…We gave McCheese the job of mike and jettisoned a vet in the process to do it. This was supposed to fix our run game.

  565. guest123 Says:

    McClain is just a bad seed. And I think he always will be. I predict this 6 month stretch is just the first bit of time he’ll do in his life.

  566. Thec Says:

    MBURRIS > McCheese

  567. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I think the first thing Rolando can do to clean up his life is stay away from his siblings.

    Tequilla and Mychal McClain are major, major trouble.

  568. neilb Says:

    Any word from the league yet?

  569. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I disagree…We gave McCheese the job of mike and jettisoned a vet in the process to do it. This was supposed to fix our run game

    *************************

    Well, we did shave off 20 ypg rushing since the 2009 season!!!!

  570. bcz24 Says:

    I disagree…We gave McCheese the job of mike and jettisoned a vet in the process to do it. This was supposed to fix our run game.
    ***********
    …and that hasn’t exactly paid huge dividends. I used to be one of McClains strongest supporters, too, but the conglomeration of his less than stellar play, his attitude, and just down right stupidity has converted me. That and RRS said he’d give me $5 if I would join him on the hate McClain bandwagon.

  571. DJ Johnny Says:

    Al wasn’t a guy who made a habit of admitting his faults but he DID acknowledge that not looking into the character and background of his draftees was one of them. Actually it’s the only time I recall him admitting a flaw…that and firing Art Shell the first time around. Maybe there were other instances but that’s all I can recall at the moment.

    It’s come back to bite us on this one.

  572. guest123 Says:

    I hope that all the scouts responsible for McClain have been run out of town in Reggie’s recent scouting purge. You can’t draft a guy at #8 overall without turning over every stone. Do a FBI type background investigation for any and all red flags. This was one huge scouting fail.

  573. RaiderRockstar Says:

    @JFB

    McClain is part of the problem, not part of the solution.

    Peyton Manning putting up 40+ against our defense wouldn’t change whether or not #55 is in the lineup

    We’re gonna need our secondary to step up during that game!

    that “turd sandwich” you speak of

    McClain hasn’t made an impact in the run game or the pass game imo. Year #3 you guys told me that was about to change with proper coaching & scheme. now that guy is going to jail

    He hasn’t proven he’s worth hanging on to and it would save us money to part ways with him. Kick rocks, McRussell!

  574. guest123 Says:

    Hey RRS, where’s my $5?!?!?!?! for hating McClain?

  575. Dakota Says:

    434.Just Fire Baby Says:
    May 17th, 2012 at 8:59 pm
    Damn Grey’s Anatomy, your going to do me like that after all these years??

    +++++++++++++++++++++++

    I know, I know man, how could they do this to us?

    SMH

  576. neilb Says:

    What’s $5 in English pounds?

    I don’t hate 55.I’m just sick of ejits especially when they’re on the team I love.

  577. DJ Johnny Says:

    563.RaiderRockstar Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 7:02 am
    @DJG

    Poor Rolando.

    I know. Lol.

    It’s no excuse. We can all come up with reasons for our screw ups if we want. Pass the buck of blame.

    One guy here already blamed the evil white man and slavery for his transgressions.

  578. RaiderRockstar Says:

    RRS said he’d give me $5 if I would join him on the hate McClain bandwagon.

    ***

    LOL!

    money well spent, Bcz.

    you make a compelling argument :)

  579. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Year #3 you guys told me that was about to change with proper coaching & scheme. now that guy is going to jail

    ****************************

    Poor Rolando.

    The poor coaching made him spazz out.

  580. Dakota Says:

    Rolando will certainly get his jury trial, but he will probably enter a guilty plea as part of a deal and get some jail time.

    But then the Sheriff Goodell is going to drop the hammer big-time. He can’t let his players run around discharging guns at people to scare them…..I can definitely see a 1 year suspension.

  581. neilb Says:

    Excuses and blame – check the bloke in the mirror.

  582. Thec Says:

    McCheese was only going to get 2 live games to prove himself to me. after that he was going to get bus thrown…

  583. Dakota Says:

    GOOOOOO LA KINGS!

  584. Thec Says:

    GOOOOO OKC

  585. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Hey RRS, where’s my $5?!?!?!?! for hating McClain?

    ***

    @G123

    I’ve got an autographed Jerry Porter football and a JaMarcus Russell t-shirt in the closet for you and Dakota

    Thec hated on him and even gave him the nickname “McRussell” but then changed his tune and supported him for a while. Sound slike he’s come back to his senses, but I don’t kow what the prize should be for flip floppers?

    buy you a Mountain Dew at the next Raider game I attend ??

  586. Dakota Says:

    581.neilb Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 7:14 am
    Excuses and blame – check the bloke in the mirror.
    +++++++++++

    Yep, you tell the President!

  587. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I don’t see a one year suspension.

    First time running on the wrong side of the personal conduct policy, so he will fall in the 4-6 range.

    Just as long as he is honest with Goodell. That’s where these guys like Vick and the Saints get in such trouble, you can’t look the heffe in the eye and lie to him and have him catch you.

  588. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I gave away my Jamarcus jersy on here for free after I was sick of him.

    I think I will hold onto my #55 though, as it my be a collector’s item after he gets a life sentence for a double-murder in 5 years.

  589. Dakota Says:

    I don’t know JFB….gunplay? I think the Sheriff is going to take him behind the O.K. Corral and give him a good beat down.

  590. hwnrdr Says:

    584.Thec Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 7:16 am
    GOOOOO OKC

    LOL, HATER!!!

    Just kidding…what’s up Thec?

  591. Thec Says:

    Thec hated on him and even gave him the nickname “McRussell” but then changed his tune and supported him for a while. Sound slike he’s come back to his senses, but I don’t kow what the prize should be for flip floppers?

    +++++++++

    Damn Rock, you make me sound like a politician.
    Only reason i gave Mayor McCheese a chance was the
    fact that he manned up, played hurt in the houston game.

    That said i was giving him the presea, and 2 live bullets to show and prove.

    I guess i will now run for Mayor…

  592. Raider O Says:

    McClain will play this season, and he will be our starting MLB. If Reggie wanted to release him, he would have done it already.

  593. hwnrdr Says:

    588.Just Fire Baby Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 7:20 am
    I gave away my Jamarcus jersy on here for free after I was sick of him.

    I think I will hold onto my #55 though, as it my be a collector’s item after he gets a life sentence for a double-murder in 5 years.

    LOL…I have my 55 hanging in the closet! Only 2 jerseys I got rid of, and there were both my sons! #2, #18 (not Murph)!

  594. HGDaddy Says:

    Vittorio Tafur ‏@VittorioTafur
    There were a couple of surprising developments in the Rolando McClain trial. Judge Bill Cook refused to allow the cell phone video and then co-defendant Jarodiaus Willingham didn’t testify. This after Willingham pleaded guilty and got a 90-day sentence for agreeing to testify against his friend.

  595. Dakota Says:

    D. Wade and Kobe Bryant both have bad games, and all of the sudden they suck? I am no Heat fan, but come on now!

    The media are crazy.

  596. Thec Says:

    LOL, HATER!!!

    Just kidding…what’s up Thec?

    +++++=

    Whats up Bruh?

  597. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Dakota,

    Goodell has given more leniant suspensions to guys with gun charges than guys who lied to him, or were multiple offenders.

    Pacman actually paralyzed a guy with his bullet, and it was like his 5th offense, and he just got a year.

  598. RaiderRockstar Says:

    The poor coaching made him spazz out.

    ***

    @JFB

    there are probably only about 10 of you McClain supporters left on this blog (you & Jhill being the most outspoken)

    coaching is certainly the top thing you guys should use for an argument. Tom Cable & Hue Jackson were his HC’s. John Marshall & Chuck Bresnahan were his DC’s. Mike Haluchak & Greg Biekert were his LB coaches.

    Cable is back to being an O-Line coach. Jackson is asst ST coach in Cincy. those other 4 guys aren’t even coaches in the NFL any longer!!

  599. Raider O Says:

    Fakers Suck!
    Clippers Suck!
    Lebron = Pu$$y

  600. bcz24 Says:

    But then the Sheriff Goodell is going to drop the hammer big-time. He can’t let his players run around discharging guns at people to scare them…..I can definitely see a 1 year suspension.

    I don’t see a one year suspension.

    First time running on the wrong side of the personal conduct policy, so he will fall in the 4-6 range.

    Just as long as he is honest with Goodell. That’s where these guys like Vick and the Saints get in such trouble, you can’t look the heffe in the eye and lie to him and have him catch you.
    **********************
    Well, he told the Raiders AND the league that he did nothing wrong, and then was convicted. So he DID lie (at least in the eyes of Terminator Goodell), lets not discount the fact that, because of the lax laws in Alabama 55 got 6 months, where as if he were in NY when that happened we would have gotten at least 18 months (look at Plax, and Plax didn’t assault anyone but his damn self) and when you factor in the assault and menacing charges RoMac could have been looking at over 2 years in jail. I wouldn’t at all be surprised to see a 1 year ban.

  601. guest123 Says:

    A stadium Mountain Dew? I’ll take it. But I’ll admit I had high hopes that McClain was just misunderstood, maybe just intense and didn’t want to be treated like a rookie. A little bit too much pride, but as long as he played like an all-pro, I could forgive his aloofness and attitude.

    But his lack of dedication showed on the field, and the a$$hole persona got old really quick. You can’t be bullied on the field and then come off an act like a bully. That’s weak sauce.

  602. Thec Says:

    Not sure what goddell is going to do. Remember, plex was suspended indefinetly…

  603. Dakota Says:

    Vittorio Tafur ‏@VittorioTafur
    There were a couple of surprising developments in the Rolando McClain trial. Judge Bill Cook refused to allow the cell phone video and then co-defendant Jarodiaus Willingham didn’t testify. This after Willingham pleaded guilty and got a 90-day sentence for agreeing to testify against his friend.

    +++++++++++++++++

    Watching Law and Order, I think they did not have the foundation to enter the video into evidence…..they needed the person who took the video to testify…..and as to Willingham, the defense is entitle to a certain amount of notice when there is a new witness….maybe that is what prevented him from testifying the same day he snitched?

  604. neilb Says:

    I think I will hold onto my #55 though, as it my be a collector’s item after he gets a life sentence for a double-murder in 5 years.

    —————————————————–

    I’m keeping my Moss 18 for the same reason.

  605. bcz24 Says:

    597.Just Fire Baby Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 7:24 am
    Dakota,

    Goodell has given more leniant suspensions to guys with gun charges than guys who lied to him, or were multiple offenders.

    Pacman actually paralyzed a guy with his bullet, and it was like his 5th offense, and he just got a year.
    *******************
    Goodell has gotten much more severe throughout his tenure. That whole PacMan situation was kind of the beginning of the ‘Personal Conduct Policy’

  606. HGDaddy Says:

    Vittorio Tafur ‏@VittorioTafur
    Judge Cook said the evidence that convinced him to find McClain guilty was the man who called 911 that night. The man testified he was at home across the street on Nov. 30 when he saw and heard a gun fired, but didn’t know who did it and called 911.

    *******************************************************

    I don’t see how this is the evidence that convinced the Judge to find McClain guilty?

  607. neilb Says:

    Things to do.

    Have a great Friday everyone.

  608. Thec Says:

    RAIDER NATION have a great day….

  609. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Watching Law and Order,

    *************************

    Not sure if you are watching the new season, but Rolando should have hired that black dude from this season that keeps getting all these guys off by claiming racism and police profiling and the like.

    That guy is good!!!!

  610. hwnrdr Says:

    606.HGDaddy Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 7:29 am
    Vittorio Tafur ‏@VittorioTafur
    Judge Cook said the evidence that convinced him to find McClain guilty was the man who called 911 that night. The man testified he was at home across the street on Nov. 30 when he saw and heard a gun fired, but didn’t know who did it and called 911.

    *******************************************************

    I don’t see how this is the evidence that convinced the Judge to find McClain guilty?

    I agree! He didn’t know who did it, so find McClain guilty?

  611. Bob Marley Says:

    Keep things in perspective Donte Stallworth KILLED a man while driving drunk and was suspended 1 season…….McClain fought his junior high buddies and things got out of hand, not nearly the same.

  612. RaiderRockstar Says:

    @ HGDaddy

    any chance McClain gets cleared of all 4 charges, faces no jail time and receives no suspension from the NFL ??

  613. J Hill Says:

    I just hope some of you semis don’t end up looking as bad as the DHB bashers last offseason with all this 55 bashing.

    The new Reggime CLEARLY came in and got rid of players they thought weren’t any good.

    55 was not one of those players.

    Hilarious that you think we should ignore the legal process of him possibly being found not guilty by a jury. Yeah, that doesn’t matter.

  614. hwnrdr Says:

    I doubt it Rockstar, about the no suspension I mean. Him being there and involved goes against the conduct policy, right?

  615. ColoradoRaider970 Says:

    Thec Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 7:27 am
    Not sure what goddell is going to do. Remember, plex was suspended indefinetly

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I see where you’re making the connection, but Plex was in NY where the gun laws are pretty strict to say the least. Down south in ALA, I’m not for certain, but the laws are probably a little less strict. Goodell will ultimately suspend him just from the video evidence alone

  616. morilla Says:

    That video was shot by McClains buddy. It was severely edited together and has parts missing. You think Rilando’s friend would keep the part with him firing the gun? That’s why the video wasn’t allowed as evidence.

    McClains lawyer might have made a huge mistake. In the next trial they will see all of the evidence they have against him. If he is found guilty again, the sentence will probably be more than what he already received.

  617. HGDaddy Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 7:33 am

    @ HGDaddy

    any chance McClain gets cleared of all 4 charges, faces no jail time and receives no suspension from the NFL ??

    ********************************************

    don’t know. I’m probably one of the few who would like to see that. not a fan of his off-field stuff but I would definitely like to see what he can do on-field with this coaching staff.

  618. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Team statement: “The Raiders are well aware of proceedings in Alabama courts today. The team will continue 2 closely monitor the legal process, understanding that when appropriate the NFL will review the situation under its personal conduct policy.”

    ***

    Doesn’t sound like the Raiders are in a hurry to find a replacement for McClain!?

  619. GG Says:

    *update: The team just issued this statement: “The Raiders are well aware of the proceedings in the Alabama courts today. The team will continue to closely monitor the legal process, understanding that when appropriate the NFL will review the situation under its personal conduct policy.”

  620. GG Says:

    It probably wasn’t ‘just’ the testimony of the eye-witness, and of the victim. Remember, Willingham testified against McClain.

    “McClain’s co-defendant, Jaradious Willingham, was sentenced to 90 days in jail and agreed to testify against McClain earlier today.”

  621. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Doesn’t sound the NFL is in a hurry either to make a decision.

    They usually wait until everything has settled, which it clearly hasn’t as of yet.

    Your week 1 starter at MLB: RoChubby McLackofpassion

  622. RaiderRockstar Says:

    to me it sounds like the Raiders will wait to find out what the punishment is from the NFL, before making any rushed decisions.

    and the NFL will probably wait until after the jury trial determination.

    us Raider fans could be dangling in the wind for a while, I think.

    Anybody know when the trial begins??

    theres a good chance McClain is our starting MLB on Week 1. problem is I would hate to see him locked up and/or suspended mid-season, leaving us with squat for replacements

    and if McClain is reaking havoc … then disappears, that would be a HUGE team distraction and sink team morale & confidence.

  623. GG Says:

    On Thursday, Raiders middle linebacker Rolando McClain went to court to find out his fate on several criminal charges stemming from an incident late last year in his hometown of Decatur Alabama. The charges were assault, reckless endangerment, unlawful discharging a firearm of a firearm in city limits, and menacing. In these matters, the judgment was swift– he was found guilty on all accounts.

    Each count carried with it 45 days in jail totaling a prison sentence of 180 days. Immediately following the judgment and sentence, McClain’s lawyer requested a trial by jury which essentially starts the entire process over again.

    Star-divide

    The Raiders, in the meantime, have released a statement on the matter:

    “The Raiders are well aware of the proceedings in the Alabama courts today. The team will continue to closely monitor the legal process, understanding that when appropriate the NFL will review the situation under its personal conduct policy.”

    If McClain were to serve his 180 day sentence, he would be out of prison in mid-November. He would get out of prison halfway through the season and most likely have a league suspension waiting for him that would have him missing the rest of the 2012 season.

    With the trial by jury request, there is no telling how long this will drag out. NFL Commissioner, Roger Goodell, will not wait for the trial result before he hands down his suspension. If McClain’s case is still pending, he will very likely suspend him preemptively. The suspension is expected to be between eight games and an entire season.

    Once his sentence and/or suspension is up, McClain wouldn’t simply suit up and take the field either. The Raiders have instituted a new, complicated defensive scheme that he won’t be able just jump into.

    This means that whether or not McClain serves his entire 180 days in prison or is eventually acquitted of his charges by a jury, he will most likely be out of football for all of 2012 anyway.

    New head coach Dennis Allen had said that he thinks McClain is very talented and had hoped to see if he could put it all together on the field. He will now not get that chance. At least not any time soon.

    The Raiders can’t just sit around and wait for McClain to come back. They may not even want him back. They will need to either convert one of their current linebackers to middle linebacker or begin searching for McClain’s replacement in free agency or via trade.

    The draft picks this team had this year all had one thing in common– they were high character guys. That is a heavy emphasis of the new regime in Oakland and Rolando McClain does not jibe with that ideal.

    Even in a football sense, if McClain had shown himself to be a great player who is worth a team’s effort in waiting for his return, this would be another story. But he has been a mediocre player on the field, a complete non-leader in the locker room, and a complacent enigma in the public eye. He just isn’t worth all the bother.

    The Raiders will realize once he is gone and they have to find a replacement that they really don’t need McClain and his baggage and immaturity. That is, of course, if they don’t simply decide to cut him well before any of that.

    Reggie McKenzie was an NFL linebacker himself and as part of the Packers front office for 18 seasons, was responsible for bringing in many fine linebackers into that team. McClain’s play, demeanor, and off-field antics fly in the face of the position McKenzie, as well as defensive coordinator Jason Tarver– a former linebackers coach–, hold in the highest regard.

    McClain will either serve time or at very least a long court battle as well as a long suspension. If he comes out of it with an improved perspective, great. He can take that perspective to a prospective team. But that team won’t be the Raiders.

  624. guest123 Says:

    Why bother waiting on NFL’s timeline for punishment and the inevitable mid-season suspension? Why jeapardize the in-season morale and momentum as we compete for the AFC West crown?

    Better to be proactive and take our medicine now, bite the bullet, cut McClain. Move on for better or for worse. At least it will be on our terms.

  625. Just Fire Baby Says:

    With the trial by jury request, there is no telling how long this will drag out. NFL Commissioner, Roger Goodell, will not wait for the trial result before he hands down his suspension. If McClain’s case is still pending, he will very likely suspend him preemptively. The suspension is expected to be between eight games and an entire season.

    ********************************

    Whoever wrote that will be wrong, IMO.

    Goodell will wait for the jury trial to finish before handing down his sentence.

    What is going to do, suspend him, than what happens if he is found not guilty on all charges?

    He would be looking at another lawsuit.

  626. DJ Johnny Says:

    MLB is the “quarterback” of the defense. I don’t see how they go forward with all the uncertainty surrounding McClain. Will he go to jail? Will he be suspended for a few games? a year???

    Too much up in the air with this that I can’t see Reggie and DA wanting to deal with that.

    If it’s McClain starting at MLB then fine..go with it, but if there’s so much uncertainty they should either bring in another MLB or go with one of the rookies so they have that position stabilized, but I think they’ll need to make a decision soon on which way they’re going.

    You don’t wanna have “Well IF Rolando gets things straightened out he’ll be our MLB, but we are kind of in a holding pattern till we see how this all plays out”.

  627. Marks hair Says:

    No mlb. No nt.. Branch leads the team in tacs again… Sigh..

  628. R8ER MIKE Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 7:20 am
    I gave away my Jamarcus jersy on here for free after I was sick of him.

    I think I will hold onto my #55 though, as it my be a collector’s item after he gets a life sentence for a double-murder in 5 years.

    ***********************************
    LOL your luck is like mine when it comes to picking jerseys !!!
    i am trying to break my curse so i went out and got a good ole 00 Jim Otto jersey !!!

  629. R8ER MIKE Says:

    oh yeah… GOOD MORNING NATION !!!!

  630. GG Says:

    Another reason why I think Reggie will cut McClain soon, is because the Raiders (the org and the on-field team) will not want to have that circus playing out and dragging on thru camp, and the regular season, detracting media/team focus from football itself.

  631. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I have a Stabler jersey, but while it has all the Mitchell and Ness stuff and “authenticity” I bought at it the New Mexico State fair for $40, so I doubt it is authentic, and I rarely wear it.

  632. Marks hair Says:

    He’s going to jail in 2 weeks. He wont know the defense when he gets back. Its a mess

  633. ColoradoRaider970 Says:

    R8ER MIKE Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 7:59 am
    Just Fire Baby Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 7:20 am
    I gave away my Jamarcus jersy on here for free after I was sick of him.

    I think I will hold onto my #55 though, as it my be a collector’s item after he gets a life sentence for a double-murder in 5 years.

    ***********************************
    LOL your luck is like mine when it comes to picking jerseys !!!
    i am trying to break my curse so i went out and got a good ole 00 Jim Otto jersey !!!
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I’m in the same boat, Russell, Moss, McClain…I’m moving towards a Jano, or Lechler jersey LMAO. Might just go throwback and pick up Howie’s

  634. GG Says:

    The Raiders don’t have to make any big decisions on this right away. It’s very likely there will be no announcements on the NFL status of Rolando McClain, not immediately.

    It was only today that the Raiders middle linebacker was found guilty of several gun-related charges and hit with a 180-day sentence in Alabama.

    McClain will appeal the verdict, his lawyer says, and it’s unclear how many days he’d have to serve of this sentence, anyway.

    It’s also unclear how many games McClain might miss, either via the jail sentence or subsequent NFL suspension for straying away from the code of conduct.

    But if we go by what new GM Reggie McKenzie and new coach Dennis Allen have consistently said since arriving here as the faces and voices of the new Raiders, the ultimate decision seems clear:

    McClain actions and his spotty play so far have shown that he’s the polar opposite of the kinds of players McKenzie and Allen want in their locker room, and McClain should be gone from this team before the start of the 2012 season.

    Maybe it’ll happen in training camp, when the Raiders know they have replacements ready to go.

    Maybe it’ll happen before that. Somewhere in there, unless this incident immediately sets McClain on a clean new path–and there is evidence of this–McClain should be an ex-Raider.

    Because this is a new Raiders team, not the old one… which lost a lot of games because the players were undisciplined and lacked chemistry, leadership and accountability.

    If you’re looking to re-establish those things, how does McClain fit into that? He doesn’t.

    The Raiders can do better than McClain–there are players who can play that position, who don’t get into trouble off the field, and who may not be as talented as McClain, but who are more reliable and productive.

    Maybe the Raiders used to think they had to marry themselves to raw talent, no matter the inconsistencies, the price tag and the character issues.

    Remember, Hue Jackson (acting unilaterally as the chief of football operations at the time) decided to let McClain play days after the incident last year.

    That can’t be the case now.

    I’m not saying McClain is a terrible person. I don’t know if he is or isn’t. I’m saying that a person who gets into this kind of trouble–and plays as erratically as he has in his Raiders career–is not someone who has proven he can be counted on.

    In the NFL, the good players are the accountable players.

    McClain just hasn’t been a very good player–or citizen–and certainly seems replaceable in the near and distant future.

    If you’re counting on players like McClain, you’re asking for errors and defeats.

    –This is how Comcast’s Paul Gutierrez put it: It’s time for the Raiders to move on from their 2010 No. 1 draft pick.

    –This is Monte Poole’s take on the issues facing the Raiders and McClain.

    –And this is Dennis Allen speaking to me a few weeks ago on the importance of faith and high character in what he and McKenzie are building:

    “Here’s what I think, I think we’re going to take into account football character and off-field character. We want good guys on this team, all right?

    Now, we’re not looking for a team full of choir boys. But we are looking for guys that are going to be dependable on the field and that we can also depend on off the field, that aren’t going to be involved in a lot of personal issues and a lot of personal trouble.

    I think that kind of goes hand in hand. Usually guys of good character, there’s a faith-based background to the way they were brought up.”

  635. RaiderRockstar Says:

    With the trial by jury request, there is no telling how long this will drag out. NFL Commissioner, Roger Goodell, will not wait for the trial result before he hands down his suspension. If McClain’s case is still pending, he will very likely suspend him preemptively. The suspension is expected to be between eight games and an entire season.

    ***

    @GG

    thats news to me. Care to share the link or source to this information?

    please & thank you

  636. Marks hair Says:

    Its clear that he went as far as tossing his teams season & possibly his career & freedom to publicly beat & threaten some nobody who “dissed” him at a party..
    He is lucky its only 180 days & he’ll loose his appeal.
    His crime was waay worse than plax shooting himself by axcident..

  637. GG Says:

    First link…

    http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2012/5/17/3027641/mcclain-legal-matters-far-from-over-his-raider-career-could-be

  638. GG Says:

    Second link…

    http://blogs.mercurynews.com/kawakami/2012/05/17/rolando-mcclain-guilty-sentenced-and-probably-not-a-fit-for-the-new-raiders/

  639. Marks hair Says:

    The suspension will cost him the yr. At least.

  640. RaiderRockstar Says:

    –This is Monte Poole’s take on the issues facing the Raiders and McClain.

    –And this is Dennis Allen speaking to me a few weeks ago on the importance of faith and high character in what he and McKenzie are building:

    “Here’s what I think, I think we’re going to take into account football character and off-field character. We want good guys on this team, all right?

    Now, we’re not looking for a team full of choir boys. But we are looking for guys that are going to be dependable on the field and that we can also depend on off the field, that aren’t going to be involved in a lot of personal issues and a lot of personal trouble.

    I think that kind of goes hand in hand. Usually guys of good character, there’s a faith-based background to the way they were brought up.”

    ***

    thanks GG. words without action are meaningless. Let’s see if he makes good on those statements. I think DHB will avoid suspension from the league, but the Raiders should suspend him for 2 games anyways. McClain, if it’s decided he’s a player we can’t live without should get suspended 4 games from Reggie & Dennis imo

  641. Just Fire Baby Says:

    The suspension will cost him the yr. At least.

    *****************************

    I will place the over/under at 9 games, and will be the house for any wagers on the over.

  642. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Tank Johnson in similar situation: Suspended 8 games. 6 after reduction.

  643. Marks hair Says:

    Who can we pick up? FAs?

  644. Raider O Says:

    Goodell is not going to suspend McClain now. Period!

  645. Marks hair Says:

    What did tank do again?

  646. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Marks hair Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 8:15 am
    What did tank do again?

    —-

    Gun charge, sentenced to 120 days..

  647. RaiderRockstar Says:

    @ GG

    Levi Damien at silverandblackpride.com isn’t gospel

    his opinions are about as valid as ours.

    I’ll read McDonald, Corkran, Tafur or Gutierrez (those guys actually have media access and can interview Reggie, the coaches & the players)

  648. bcz24 Says:

    606.HGDaddy Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 7:29 am
    Vittorio Tafur ‏@VittorioTafur
    Judge Cook said the evidence that convinced him to find McClain guilty was the man who called 911 that night. The man testified he was at home across the street on Nov. 30 when he saw and heard a gun fired, but didn’t know who did it and called 911.

    *******************************************************

    I don’t see how this is the evidence that convinced the Judge to find McClain guilty?
    **************************
    A party, with no connection to either the defendant or the victim, called 911 to report a gunshot in the area. That is corroborating evidence (albiet circumstantial) to the victims testimony that a fire arm (later found in McClains posession) was indeed discharged. The judge, nor a prosector could secure a convinction based SOLELY on that 911 call, however it is compelling enough, when combined with the victims testimony, and the weapon found in McClains posession that was missing a round to secure the conviction.

  649. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Aqib Talib STILL has an assualt with a deadly weapon (actual felonies) hanging over his head. Previous to this he got in a fight at the rookie symposium and also was arrested and found guilty of punching a cabbie and getting a simple assault conviction.

    Not one game has he been suspended.

  650. Marks hair Says:

    How can his suspension be shorter than plaxico or vilma? Really?

  651. R8ER MIKE Says:

    O. whats the good WORD my Green Party brother ??

  652. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Tank is a multiple offender.

    Before his gun charge that landed his suspension he had a previous gun charge and assault conviction.

    Also, he was busted in a FEDERAL raid, and found with an artillery with children in the house, and pounds of grass as well.

    Not quite the same, and again, only 6 games.

  653. Marks hair Says:

    Thats crazy stuff.. All those charges and short suspensions..

  654. bcz24 Says:

    642.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 8:13 am
    Tank Johnson in similar situation: Suspended 8 games. 6 after reduction.
    ***************
    Tank Johnson’s charges were just weapons posession charges, he did not have the accompanying Assault, menacing and reckless endangerment charges as well.

  655. guest123 Says:

    The fights and cabbie incident weren’t felony gun incidents. The upcoming court date is surely going to trigger a suspension for Talib. It’s hard to correlate this case to McClain until after Goodell finally does suspend Talib (which is inevitable).

  656. bcz24 Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 8:17 am
    Aqib Talib STILL has an assualt with a deadly weapon (actual felonies) hanging over his head. Previous to this he got in a fight at the rookie symposium and also was arrested and found guilty of punching a cabbie and getting a simple assault conviction.
    ***************
    Talib will get a hefty suspension once the legalities have run their course.

  657. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    bcz24 Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 8:23 am
    642.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 8:13 am
    Tank Johnson in similar situation: Suspended 8 games. 6 after reduction.
    ***************
    Tank Johnson’s charges were just weapons posession charges, he did not have the accompanying Assault, menacing and reckless endangerment charges as well.

    —-

    Hard to figure out who’s charges were worse, McClain or Tank.

    And Tank was a multiple offender.

  658. Seymour Bush Says:

    Because this is a new Raiders team, not the old one… which lost a lot of games because the players were undisciplined and lacked chemistry, leadership and accountability.

    If you’re looking to re-establish those things, how does McClain fit into that? He doesn’t.

    The Raiders can do better than McClain–there are players who can play that position, who don’t get into trouble off the field, and who may not be as talented as McClain, but who are more reliable and productive.
    ==========================================

    This is exactly right.

  659. GG Says:

    I know Levi Damien isn’t gospel, just posting relevant info on the topic in case anyone hadn’t read those sites.

    For what it’s worth, I do think the odds are against McClain being a Raider this season because of the factors mentioned…

    1) He’ll be spending all his time in court (all over his dumb decision-making selfishness putting football last on his priorities at the time), with his lawyer, in Alabama, not in OTAs/camp, and the football program must go full steam ahead.

    2) With the NFL suspension to come, the legal battle to come, the possible jail sentence to come, he’ll lose a lot of time if not the whole season, and the Raiders can’t afford that, useless quarterback of the defense there, wasted roster spot.

    3) The financial incentive to Reggie to cut McClain now or at least this season, to avoid the cap hits in future, and the possible getting out of his future guaranteed money.

    4) Cutting McClain now, not later, is feasible given the Raiders need a MLB to become the quarterback of the defense NOW, learn the program in OTAs/camp, they have a chance now to do that and be done with him and not have the whole circus be a distraction to the progress being made.

    5) Reggie could also feasibly hold onto McClain between now and trade deadline, hoping on some sort of trade compensation at least, knowing he can still cut him by trade deadline to save the future cap dollars.

  660. bcz24 Says:

    Tank Johnson’s charges were just weapons posession charges, he did not have the accompanying Assault, menacing and reckless endangerment charges as well.
    *****************
    I should have said, the charges that got him suspended.

    He was NOT charged with marijuanna posession in that raid, only his bodyguard was. He was just charged with more weapons posessions while on probation from the first charge.

  661. Marks hair Says:

    Id suspend him a game just for going to the party during the season.. Total disreguard for his teamates, coaches & owner..

  662. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I think McClain will get 6-8 games suspension courtesy of Goodell, which he will appeal thru the NFLPA and get a 2-game reduction.

    biggest questions are:

    what Reggie & Dennis plan to do

    let the legal process run it’s course or cut him now?

    if they opt to keep him, do they tack thier own suspension onto the NFL’s?

    Do they bring in a vet MLB now, in the event RoMac gets locked up and/or suspended midseason?

  663. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Two weapon charges and an assualt charge for Tank, mixed with the whole kids at the house with dope and assualt rifles, only resulted in 6 games.

    McClain may get 2-3 games based upon that sliding scale.

  664. RaiderRockstar Says:

    For what it’s worth, I do think the odds are against McClain being a Raider this season because of the factors mentioned…

    ***

    @GG # 659

    solid post. agreed 110%

  665. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Point on Talib, is that these charges (on a guy that has been looked at under the Personal Conduct Policy before) were levied on him going into last season, and he played the whole year without ANY threat of suspension.

    Until this legal course plays out, there will be no suspensions for McLain as well.

  666. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    I say he ends up getting nothing.

    He’s going to go to trial, and like his lawyer said, there is no evidence that puts him with a gun in his hand at all.

    Im not saying he didnt do anything, im saying legally he will get off.

    This lawyer knows what he’s doing.

    Goodell cant legally suspend someone for being found not guilty of something.

  667. GG Says:

    The problem with predicting how many games the NFL will suspend him for is that Goodell’s suspension decisions are entirely arbitrary. He could on one hand suspend Roethlisberger for 6 weeks tho not convicted (guilty but legally it was settled outside court), or dish out the bounty suspensions to players tho potentially it was fabricated, then on the other hand give a few weeks suspension to more severe cases like Tank, Talib, etc.

  668. bcz24 Says:

    He’s going to go to trial, and like his lawyer said, there is no evidence that puts him with a gun in his hand at all.
    ***************
    uhhh, except for the weapon registered to him, in his posession on the night in question, missing a round, with the corroborating evidence of the neighbor calling 911 to report the gun being fired.

  669. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Goodell cant legally suspend someone for being found not guilty of something.

    ***************************

    He did it to Big Ben, who was never even charged or asked to step foot in a court room.

  670. weaselbit Says:

    The evidence against Rapistburger was astounding.
    Girl didn’t want to testify because of what they would put her through.
    second alleged incident.
    Obviously there was a pattern.
    May not be in jail but belongs there.

  671. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Until this legal course plays out, there will be no suspension for McLain

    ***

    @JFB

    I agree, unfortunately. That puts Reggie & Dennis in an awkward position because of all the comments they’ve made so far this offseaon about the type of people and players they are looking for, which McClain certainly doesn’t mesh with. What if we dump him now and save some coin, then he signs somewhere else for the vet minimum? Then he plays the entire season and is found not guilty in Feb 2013 or something? would be awkward. Do we get any of that guaranteed money back? Can we withold any of it and avoid the huge cap hit next offseason? Gotta be some type of clause in that contract. think Reggie or Dennis would even consider dumping a player “for cause” , I mean that really sounds like something Al Davis would do and it seems we are doing things completely opposite of that now

  672. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Someone obviously shot a gun, and it is beyond pathetic that Rolando couldn’t have bartered with this Jadarious dude to take the gun rap and 180 day jail sentence.

    No couth among posse members these days, a true microcosm of what is going wrong with this country.

  673. bcz24 Says:

    GG Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 8:33 am
    The problem with predicting how many games the NFL will suspend him for is that Goodell’s suspension decisions are entirely arbitrary. He could on one hand suspend Roethlisberger for 6 weeks tho not convicted (guilty but legally it was settled outside court), or dish out the bounty suspensions to players tho potentially it was fabricated, then on the other hand give a few weeks suspension to more severe cases like Tank, Talib, etc
    *************************
    Agreed. There doesn’t seem to be any scale for suspension. Goodell takes each case as it comes, and uses no precedence for deciding the punishment.

  674. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    bcz24 Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 8:34 am
    He’s going to go to trial, and like his lawyer said, there is no evidence that puts him with a gun in his hand at all.
    ***************
    uhhh, except for the weapon registered to him, in his posession on the night in question, missing a round, with the corroborating evidence of the neighbor calling 911 to report the gun being fired.

    —-

    Link?

    Sounds like barber shop talk.

    Yes he had a gun registered to him. Theres is NO evidence that has him with a gun in his hand or firing it.

    A gun was fired, yes. Nothing tracing it to McClain.

    Im talking legally in a court case. What you can and cannot prove.

  675. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 8:34 am
    Goodell cant legally suspend someone for being found not guilty of something.

    ***************************

    He did it to Big Ben, who was never even charged or asked to step foot in a court room.

    —-

    Multiple offender.. But good point.

  676. Just Fire Baby Says:

    The evidence against Rapistburger was astounding.

    ***********************

    Really?

    No charges ever filed. How is that civil trial going from the last incident?

    Oh yeah, there is none.

    The first chick was an obvious money-grab as well.

  677. weaselbit Says:

    quit going easy on McClain.

    He skips out of team activity to go to a funeral and he’s out there thugging it up.
    Evidence, witnesses, video, what the hell more do you want.

    Raiders need to get rid of no-character players.

    Cut the cord!

    McClains play wasn’t exactly blowing anybodys skirt up.

    Raiders can do better!

  678. R8ER MIKE Says:

    could they and shouldnt they have done a powder residue test to see if he fired the weapon ??

  679. bcz24 Says:

    weaselbit Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 8:37 am
    The evidence against Rapistburger was astounding.
    Girl didn’t want to testify because of what they would put her through.
    second alleged incident.
    Obviously there was a pattern.
    May not be in jail but belongs there
    ****************
    Uhhh, you dont see a pattern of violence with McClain? He was in court for running a classmate over (he paid the guy off to drop it), he was shot at in the offseason (doubt as if that was random) and now this whole situation. That is MORE damning than 2 seperate woman claiming they were raped by a very rich man and taking a pay day not to press charges (the character of the first victim was VERY questionable, part of the reason the prosecutor didn’t proceed)

  680. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    R8ER MIKE Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 8:41 am
    could they and shouldnt they have done a powder residue test to see if he fired the weapon ??

    —-

    Exactly.

    No evidence.

  681. bcz24 Says:

    Link?

    Sounds like barber shop talk.

    Yes he had a gun registered to him. Theres is NO evidence that has him with a gun in his hand or firing it.

    A gun was fired, yes. Nothing tracing it to McClain.

    Im talking legally in a court case. What you can and cannot prove.
    *************
    It was in the original police report.

  682. GG Says:

    #673…

    yep, lol, it’s like goodell hands out bigger suspensions to who pisses him off the most personally, like lying to him or if they’re the face of a team, high-profile, or if he has some agenda, or with the whole bountygate thing, it’s revenge on the saints/payton for them getting away with that drug scandal.

  683. weaselbit Says:

    676
    You don’t know what you’re talking about.
    But you’re defending a probable rapist.
    Shows character.

    You must love McClain.

  684. Marks hair Says:

    I thought his buddys testimony put the gun in romacs hand?

  685. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 8:41 am
    The evidence against Rapistburger was astounding.

    ***********************

    Really?

    No charges ever filed. How is that civil trial going from the last incident?

    Oh yeah, there is none.

    The first chick was an obvious money-grab as well.

    —-

    I agree, I think both cases were money grabs.

    Ben put himself in a bad spot.

    Goodell is really out of control.

    And who do you appeal a suspension to? Goodell.

    System is flawed big time.

  686. bcz24 Says:

    680.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 8:42 am
    R8ER MIKE Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 8:41 am
    could they and shouldnt they have done a powder residue test to see if he fired the weapon ??

    —-

    Exactly.

    No evidence.
    ****************
    McClain wasn’t arrested until the following day, he could easily have gotten the residue off his hands.

  687. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Marks hair Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 8:44 am
    I thought his buddys testimony put the gun in romacs hand?

    —-

    Never testified. Cell footage, never used.

    And nobody knows what the guy who turned is gonna say.

  688. GG Says:

    I don’t think McClain will fare much better in front of a jury of his alabama-peers. He has a bad reputation among his local community. Seem to remember a poster from there talking about how the principal of his local school has banned him from school grounds for some incident during a school basketball game that he was there watching.

    Can’t say all this is true, but Im sure there are people out there who post here that are aware of more McClain incidents and the general like/dislike of him among the community.

  689. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    bcz24 Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 8:45 am
    680.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 8:42 am
    R8ER MIKE Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 8:41 am
    could they and shouldnt they have done a powder residue test to see if he fired the weapon ??

    —-

    Exactly.

    No evidence.
    ****************
    McClain wasn’t arrested until the following day, he could easily have gotten the residue off his hands.

    —-

    Not that easy.

    Quick google search will tell you how almost impossible it is to get rid of. Hands, clothes, nostrils etc.

  690. RaiderRockstar Says:

    you’re defending a probable rapist.
    Shows character.

    You must love McClain

    ***

    @Weasel

    JFB & Jhill think a little differently than most of us, which isn’t always a bad thing. I think they tend to look at both sides of every argument, where as most of us (myself included) think the player sucks, has no character and we could save money by chopping him. Think Reggie & Dennis would be sending the wrong message to this team if they leave it in the hands of the jury & NFL, where it probably belongs honestly …

  691. r8eray Says:

    Trade Rolando before trade deadline for a 2nd-3rd round in the 2013 Draft and be done with it!!

    Next?

  692. Marks hair Says:

    You cant let gangs of thugs do things like that.. 180’s a nice #. He doesnt need to play next yr.. Maybe football will be more important to him after staring at a wall for a bit..

  693. weaselbit Says:

    odd that is was only Rapistburger w multiple accusations of rape.
    Why him?
    Why isnt this happening to other players?
    I admit the evidence sounded fishy in the first accusation.
    But not the second.

  694. RAIDER NATION STATION http://www.raidernationstation.com/ Says:

    Raider Nation-Station

    NEW!~ 05-17-12: McCLAIN A PAIN BUT IS HE STAYIN’?
    Ditch him, keep him, re-trial, suspensions and a woeful lack of character judgement by Raiders past…

    http://www.raidernationstation.com/raider_war_room

  695. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    r8eray Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 8:49 am
    Trade Rolando before trade deadline for a 2nd-3rd round in the 2013 Draft and be done with it!!

    Next?

    —-

    If Demeco Ryans only cost a 5th rounder, theres no way in hell were getting a 2nd or 3rd.

    Come on dude.

  696. bcz24 Says:

    Sorry, upon further review, the investigator said the weapon was not recovered, I read somewhere that it was. I stand corrected on this point.

  697. weaselbit Says:

    Cant see Mack keeping this guy.
    Although, first offense as far as I know.
    Maybe it’ll be a wake-up call.

  698. Marks hair Says:

    687. Obviously the da & judge know what the snitch will say..

  699. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    bcz24 Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 8:51 am
    Sorry, upon further review, the investigator said the weapon was not recovered, I read somewhere that it was. I stand corrected on this point.

    —-

    Understandable.

  700. Just Fire Baby Says:

    could they and shouldnt they have done a powder residue test to see if he fired the weapon ??

    ********************************

    Have a sneaking suspicion that the crime lab in Decatur, Alabama might be a little backed up for the processing of misdeamenors.

  701. SouthTexasRaider Says:

    *****************just a chime in***********************

    0-2 fakers…..fixing to go 0-3 after tonight…..OUCH!

    SPURS BABY!
    RAIDER FAHQIN NATION!

  702. RaiderRockstar Says:

    2 questions:

    when does the trial start?
    and
    where will it be held?

    The last state to end slavery (also the first to use it, beginning in 1846) was Alabama … still plenty of racists in ‘Bama

    when you think of racial profiling, then see McClain smiling while being cuffed & stuffed.. I don’t think it bodes well for him

  703. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Marks hair Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 8:53 am
    687. Obviously the da & judge know what the snitch will say..

    —-

    There’s no way McClain’s lawyer wants to take this before a jury and face worse punishment if he did not know something.

    Let’s use a little logic here people.

    Cant make assumptions to back our opinions.

  704. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I admit the evidence sounded fishy in the first accusation.
    But not the second.

    ******************************

    A drunk college chick is wearing a shirt talking about getting banged that night, goes into the bathroom stall with a grown man, and than later recants all her original police statements, and that doesn’t sound fishy to you?

    She should be the one getting sued for slander!!!!

  705. GG Says:

    Bengals would be interested in a trade imo.

  706. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    And I wouldnt be shocked if the trial was postponed until after the season..

  707. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    GG Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 8:58 am
    Bengals would be interested in a trade imo.

    —-

    Is that a joke?

  708. bcz24 Says:

    Not that easy.

    Quick google search will tell you how almost impossible it is to get rid of. Hands, clothes, nostrils etc.
    *****************
    I did a quick google search before I even commented, zinc-based soap quote ‘drastically reduces the time powder residue with remain on a surface’, almost ALL dandruff shampoo is zinc based. The dude could get the residue off with Head and Shoulders, hard to say its impossible.

  709. GG Says:

    #707…

    not a joke. why wouldn’t they be interested?

  710. Twocents Says:

    I wonder if Mrs. McClain has access to a 9 iron?

  711. bcz24 Says:

    709.GG Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 9:00 am
    #707…

    not a joke. why wouldn’t they be interested?
    *****************
    First and foremost, they have a VERY good MLB in Rey Mauauluga

  712. weaselbit Says:

    The arrest rate in the deep South for African Americans is really high. Louisiana has an incarceration rate highest in the world. 9 times that of Iran. 7 times China. one of every 14 African American males in louisiana are incarcerated. Mostly in private corporation-run prisons. Alabama probably not much better. Should’ve just attended the funeral and got the hell out of Alabama.

  713. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    bcz24 Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 8:59 am
    Not that easy.

    Quick google search will tell you how almost impossible it is to get rid of. Hands, clothes, nostrils etc.
    *****************
    I did a quick google search before I even commented, zinc-based soap quote ‘drastically reduces the time powder residue with remain on a surface’, almost ALL dandruff shampoo is zinc based. The dude could get the residue off with Head and Shoulders, hard to say its impossible.

    —-

    I said get rid of. Not reduce time it remains on surface. LOL..

    You should watch CSI dude.

  714. r8eray Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 8:51 am
    r8eray Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 8:49 am
    Trade Rolando before trade deadline for a 2nd-3rd round in the 2013 Draft and be done with it!!

    Next?

    —-

    If Demeco Ryans only cost a 5th rounder, theres no way in hell were getting a 2nd or 3rd.

    Come on dude.

    ============

    Would we get more trade value for him if we trade for a player straight up?

  715. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    bcz24 Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 9:02 am
    709.GG Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 9:00 am
    #707…

    not a joke. why wouldn’t they be interested?
    *****************
    First and foremost, they have a VERY good MLB in Rey Mauauluga

    —-

    This.

    Their whole LB core is set, young & GOOD.

  716. bcz24 Says:

    I said get rid of. Not reduce time it remains on surface. LOL..

    You should watch CSI dude.
    **************
    Uhhh if he reduced the time significatly enough, then by the time he was arrested and processed and they decided to collect the residue evidence it would be significantly reduced to the point of a negative test.

  717. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    r8eray Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 9:04 am
    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 8:51 am
    r8eray Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 8:49 am
    Trade Rolando before trade deadline for a 2nd-3rd round in the 2013 Draft and be done with it!!

    Next?

    —-

    If Demeco Ryans only cost a 5th rounder, theres no way in hell were getting a 2nd or 3rd.

    Come on dude.

    ============

    Would we get more trade value for him if we trade for a player straight up?

    —-

    I dont think we get any value on him in a trade. Big contract, bad character & the Legal problems… Oh yeah and he hasnt performed..

    conditonal 7th rounder?..

  718. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    bcz24 Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 9:05 am
    I said get rid of. Not reduce time it remains on surface. LOL..

    You should watch CSI dude.
    **************
    Uhhh if he reduced the time significatly enough, then by the time he was arrested and processed and they decided to collect the residue evidence it would be significantly reduced to the point of a negative test.

    —-

    Regardless its Alabama, and none of this is happening.

  719. bcz24 Says:

    Would we get more trade value for him if we trade for a player straight up?
    ***************
    McClain would have next to no trade value. He is mediocre at best ON the field, and with his off field issues who is going to pay anything for him, not to mention the blatant red flag of us offering him on the trade block being a clear indicator that we have chosen to move on and will likely cut him.

  720. bcz24 Says:

    Regardless its Alabama, and none of this is happening.
    ************
    And like JLB said, it isn’t likely that their forensics team is spending a lot of time investigating misdemeanors.

  721. RaiderRockstar Says:

    GG is correct, relax folks

    everybody knows that Cincy loves them some thuggish players. players with character flaws in general. Don’t think they’d trade for McClain, but I’m sure they’d be hot after him on a cheap 1-year deal after we axe him – regardless of the other players they’ve got on the roster

  722. weaselbit Says:

    Just fire704-What a unique sexist point of view you have. I’ve never heard the facts of Rapisterburger case mis-stated in such a way. guess from your point of view she was asking for it. God help you if you ever have any daughters. I could recant the facts of the case but why? stupid is as stupid does.

  723. guest123 Says:

    Having lived in Alabama, there is a lot of racism you see everywhere. It’s a shame and some of the rules are silly. Like bussing inner city blacks to white suburb schools and bussing white kids to the inner city ghetto to barbed wire fenced magnet schools. Of course, there is a lot of resentment and hostility by both whites and blacks when the education system sets up whites to enjoy A+ rated public schools and black dominated schools are C rated. Who is to blame? Apparently they like to point fingers instead of attempt to break down barriers. It’s always been that way in Alabama and always will.

  724. RaiderDuck Says:

    Weaselbit Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 9:03 am
    Should’ve just attended the funeral and got the hell out of Alabama.

    ==========================================

    You’re assuming there even WAS a “dead grandfather” in the first place…

  725. R8ER MIKE Says:

    I did a quick google search before I even commented, zinc-based soap quote ‘drastically reduces the time powder residue with remain on a surface’, almost ALL dandruff shampoo is zinc based. The dude could get the residue off with Head and Shoulders, hard to say its impossible
    ***************************************************
    lol lol lol .. and you think he is SMART enough to know or do this ??

  726. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    bcz24 Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 9:08 am
    Regardless its Alabama, and none of this is happening.
    ************
    And like JLB said, it isn’t likely that their forensics team is spending a lot of time investigating misdemeanors.

    —-

    Exactly.

    I can see a scenario where they just settle out of court, no need to spend tax payers $ on a trial that doesnt have much evidence.

    Then there will be a civil suit, and McClain will pay the guy off like his college case.

    He’ll have a ‘meeting’ with Goodell that involves a threat from Goodell and be on with football.

    No jail time, No suspension.

  727. GG Says:

    Maualuga has his own pending NFL suspension coming and is off-contract end of this season.

    Behind him there isn’t much depth. They added Burfict to that MLB depth which says they’re still looking to upgrade or sure it up.

    If Burfict bombs, or doesn’t make the team, and McClain ends up with say a 2 game NFL suspension and say only 90 days in jail or no jail time, i dont think they’d NOT be interested.

    Plus, the Bengals never care about off-field and character issues. Just look at their entire roster right now. And, Hue is there and probably thinks well of McClain’s abilities too. And probably will enjoy a chance at ‘fleecing’ the Raiders again after his demise here.

  728. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 9:09 am
    GG is correct, relax folks

    everybody knows that Cincy loves them some thuggish players. players with character flaws in general. Don’t think they’d trade for McClain, but I’m sure they’d be hot after him on a cheap 1-year deal after we axe him – regardless of the other players they’ve got on the roster

    —-

    You could say the same about the other 31 teams in the NFL.

    So to single out the Bengals is the pointless part. Thats all.

  729. guest123 Says:

    I think McClain is certainly looking at a suspension. Regardless of whatever court maneuverings he’s got in the hopper. 4 games minimum to 8 games max.

  730. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    They added an undrafted Rookie FA, and thats a sign they are trying to upgrade the position??

    STOP THE PRESSES!!

    I guess Lechler better be on his game this off-season..

  731. guest123 Says:

    If McClain somehow flourishes on a new team, I won’t be bitter about it. If he turns his life around, good for him. I just don’t care to see it happen as a Raider.

  732. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    guest123 Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 9:13 am
    I think McClain is certainly looking at a suspension. Regardless of whatever court maneuverings he’s got in the hopper. 4 games minimum to 8 games max.

    —-

    You understand the precedent Goodell would be setting by suspending a first time offender found not-guilty?

    And a big LOL if you think the NFLPA would let this come close to happening.

  733. RaiderRockstar Says:

    to single out the Bengals is the pointless part. Thats all

    ***

    @DAV

    you’re pretty fiesty today, aren’t ya?

    nobody goes after troubled athletes like Cincy does. it’s well documented. look it up. I bet GG’s point was partially sarcastic anyways. just let it go.

  734. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 9:16 am
    to single out the Bengals is the pointless part. Thats all

    ***

    @DAV

    you’re pretty fiesty today, aren’t ya?

    nobody goes after troubled athletes like Cincy does. it’s well documented. look it up. I bet GG’s point was partially sarcastic anyways. just let it go.

    —-

    Ya, had to come into work an hour early.

    :)

  735. Silverandblack666 Says:

    RR

    Did you have a friend that needed some guitar lessons?

  736. RaiderRockstar Says:

    when you get arrested, you tarnish the shield.

    playing in the NFL is a priviledge, not a right.

    regardless of the outcome of this trial .. McClain wasn’t completely innocent of everything

    as a first time offender of the NFL’s personal conduct policy, his punishment will be minimal – but there will be punishment

  737. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Weasel,

    There was no rape, no charges, no civil case, no evidence.

    Just stupidity on both parties.

    How is that sexist? I believe in our judicial system and police, if they feel there isn’t enough evidence to even take it to a court hearing, than that’s what I will believe.

    Not some 22 year old drunk college girl.

  738. RaiderRockstar Says:

    @silver

    R8ER MIKE

  739. R8ER MIKE Says:

    Thats my son Silver… he know how to play and has started a band.
    just wanted some advice as to how to book gigs and what to look out for.

  740. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 9:21 am
    when you get arrested, you tarnish the shield.

    playing in the NFL is a priviledge, not a right.

    regardless of the outcome of this trial .. McClain wasn’t completely innocent of everything

    as a first time offender of the NFL’s personal conduct policy, his punishment will be minimal – but there will be punishment

    —-

    My thing is how can you be told you violated the personal conduct policy if you are found not guilty?

    NFLPA will have none of this.

  741. manassamauler Says:

    so RM will miss games. 1st rd Draft pick or not, Mcclain isn’t worth the trouble. If this were Ray Lewis or Patrick Willis I’d say to keep him unless the team was hurt by it.Mcclain can be replaced easily. very expendable, Raiders dont need stupid distractions like this, they should TRY to get somebody to give them a 3rd or 4th draft pick for him. If not, just cut him.

  742. RaiderRockstar Says:

    @JFB

    I heard you were pretty popular among 22 year old drunk college girls in the Chico area once upon a time..

    they will be upset at your stance on this.

    I think you might score some points with the nurse wifey though!

  743. RAIDER NATION STATION http://www.raidernationstation.com/ Says:

    So many questions now that 3rd year Oakland MLB Rolando McClain has been found guilty on all charges relating to a fight which involved gun play attributed to McClain.

    Will he stay?

    Will he play?

    Its too early to tell if the bell tolls for McClain’s career in Oakland but his alledged victim isn’t the only one with a runging in his ears.

    DITCHING AND OPTION?

    Of course some came out calling for McClain’s head or at least a one way ticket out of town.

    In case you were wondering if that was even a possibility.

    It is.

    Paul Guiterrez of CSNbayarea.com:

    “According to figures obtained by CSNCalifornia.com, Oakland would save $1.22 million against the cap this season but absorb a $7.26-million cap hit in 2013. Sounds like a lot, but McClain is already due to have a cap number of $6.675 million next year, so it would only be $585,000 more in dead money. Beyond that, the Raiders would be free from paying him a combined $13.445 million in base salaries through 2015 ($970,000 this season, $4.005 million in 2013, $5.805 million in 2014, $2.665 million in 2015).

    In theory, in the long run, you save money, but theres no denying the massive over sight TWICE by the recently dismissed Raider scouting department.

    Granted, Mr. Davis pulled the trigger and inked the deals but the glaring character whiff on Jamarcus Russell should’ve served as a warning but the fact McClain’s mother was diagnosed with a severe mental disorder, threatened to kill him and has been arrested several times did not take McClain off Oaklands wish list.

    Nor did the fact McClain’s father has an arrest record as well.

    Nor did the fact Oakland probably knew about the assault case McClain was involved in while at Alabama. (A case he recently settled for reportedly $70,000.)

    None of these red flags deterred Davis from using the Raiders 2010 8th overall pick on the checkered but promising 6-4, 255 lb Crimson tide thumper.

    McClain’s been blasted for his under productive career so far, over running plays, shooting the wrong gap, giving up too easily on plays and yes, he hasn’t been the dynamic game changing force Oakland envisioned when they gave him a $40 million dollar contract but he has been hampered by a bad knee since his rookie year and a twice twisted ankle last season he played on.

    INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY…AGAIN

    The plan now is for McClain to go to jury trial and try to over turn his 180 jail sentence.

    A jury trial could mean a rescheduling after the season is over which could in turn mean McClain would still be presumed innocent until proven guilty. That doesn’t necessarily mean McClain is free from League or even Oakland sanction.

    According to the new CBA the maximum McClain could be banned would be four games but again, would McClain be punished for charges he is contesting?

    One thing is clear, McClain’s mess isn’t going anywhere any time soon. Even after the eventual trial outcome, civil litigation could take years.

    Not exactly the new era player new GM Reggie McKenzie had in mind but if McClain stays and plays on can only hope hes healthy, focused and unarmed.

    http://www.raidernationstation.com/raider_war_room

  744. manassamauler Says:

    Weaselbit Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 8:37 am
    The evidence against Rapistburger was astounding.
    Girl didn’t want to testify because of what they would put her through.
    second alleged incident.
    Obviously there was a pattern.
    May not be in jail but belongs there.

    _
    Yep he is a rapist or at least a molester and will always be known as one. What McClain did wasn’t as bad as what BR did IMO. But the Raiders still cant have dumbasses as starting MLBs. and this in no way compares to a supposed DUI on DHB. in case somebody brought that up

  745. GG Says:

    Reggie’s obviously big on long-timer vets who come cheap and even with injury/etc uncertainties around them, but who can step right in, provide leadership, are workmanlike, absorb all the cerebral complexities of the schemes and plays.

    Schmitt, Bartell, etc.

    I don’t think it’s a reach at all that Reggie could be eyeing these vet MLB FAs right now in anticipation of.

  746. Bob Marley Says:

    Some of you guys seem to wish the worst for McClain, let’s hope you or your kids never make a mistake and get the kind of biased, uninformed judgment Rolando is getting here……I’m with 55 as long as he’s a Raider.

  747. weaselbit Says:

    &37 Just fire- What part of they didn’t prosecute only because she didn’t want to testify do you not understand? There were also multiple witnesses. not to mention the 2 off duty PA State Patrolmen who prevented anyone from going down that hallway and getting her out of there until Seth Rogen’s twin was done.

    “Some 22 year old drunk college girl”? Naw, you don’t sound backwards or sexist at all.

    Bottom line here, why are you so adamantly defending a Steeler? There are teams that as a Raider fan should always be on the fecal roster. Yellow and black would be one of them. I didn’t like Bradshaw but I at least respected him. Not Rapistburger. Steaming piece of cr@p. These are not the Steelers of the 70’s.

  748. RaiderRockstar Says:

    My thing is how can you be told you violated the personal conduct policy if you are found not guilty?

    NFLPA will have none of this

    ***

    you have portrayed the NFL in a negative light thru the media. My wife already thinks the Raiders should dump McClain and the NFL should suspend him based upon his “alleged” actions. I don’t think she’s even seen him play and I haven’t told her her what a sack of crap he is on the field!

    you see what i’m saying?

    you tarnish the shield and send the wrong message to fellow NFL players and future potential NFL ballers.

  749. Just Fire Baby Says:

    RR,

    22 year old drunk college chicks used to get down with my fat slob, 300 pound roommate.

    To think that Ben would rape (or have to) one in the bathroom at the happening college bar does not even cross my mind as a consideration.

    Besides, the police agreed.

  750. RaiderRockstar Says:

    INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY…AGAIN

    The plan now is for McClain to go to jury trial and try to over turn his 180 jail sentence.

    A jury trial could mean a rescheduling after the season is over which could in turn mean McClain would still be presumed innocent until proven guilty. That doesn’t necessarily mean McClain is free from League or even Oakland sanction.

    According to the new CBA the maximum McClain could be banned would be four games but again, would McClain be punished for charges he is contesting?

    One thing is clear, McClain’s mess isn’t going anywhere any time soon. Even after the eventual trial outcome, civil litigation could take years.

    Not exactly the new era player new GM Reggie McKenzie had in mind

    ***

    Agreed, RNS.

    co-signed even!

  751. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 9:33 am
    My thing is how can you be told you violated the personal conduct policy if you are found not guilty?

    NFLPA will have none of this

    ***

    you have portrayed the NFL in a negative light thru the media. My wife already thinks the Raiders should dump McClain and the NFL should suspend him based upon his “alleged” actions. I don’t think she’s even seen him play and I haven’t told her her what a sack of crap he is on the field!

    you see what i’m saying?

    you tarnish the shield and send the wrong message to fellow NFL players and future potential NFL ballers.

    —-

    I understand that part.

    Im just trying to view this from a legal stance.

    And legally he looks very good right now.

    I really think he can turn it around on the field with our new staff too.

    We’ll see what happens.

  752. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Bottom line here, why are you so adamantly defending a Steeler?

    **********************

    Exactly what I thought from you.

    Who it was is clouding your judgement.

    What, the only rape convictions come from when the victim testifies? NOT AT ALL, most victims don’t testify in court, but can give a sworn testimony that can be heard in court.

    With a sworn testimony and “multiple witnesses”, it would have went to court. It didn’t, because there wasn’t.

  753. RaiderRockstar Says:

    22 year old drunk college chicks used to get down with my fat slob, 300 pound roommate.

    ***

    Sully just sent you a private msg asking for some phone #’s

  754. guest123 Says:

    I don’t wish the worst for McClain. I wish for justice. We all make mistakes and so will our kids. But if even they destroy the public peace, they deserve the hand of justice. That serves the rights of everyone in a free society in my opinion.

    Now, I do not stand with McClain because he flies in the face of what Reggie Mck said he wanted the franchise model to be. And since he can’t be a part of that model, I have no interest in his ability or desire to atone. Sometimes there are times when it’s best for everyone that a relationship end. This is one of those cases. I sincerely hope he turns his life around and goes on to be an all-pro with some other team, provided he turns his life around.

  755. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    And I understand what Reggie is doing here also, and like JerryMac said, coaches cant stop talking about how much film work and things McClain does.

    So IDK if its as easy as saying he isnt the type of player Reggie wants.

    He isnt a problem on the field [not talking about performance] or the locker room.

    Cant just say he’s a typical knucklehead.

    Our past regime wasnt good for players of his mentality.

  756. weaselbit Says:

    I don’t wish the worst for McClain. Just the opposite. But if what he is doing tarnishes the image of the Raiders that has to be considered.

    Raider Nation is HUGE! lots of haters tho. Winning nest season will make all the difference. McClain has mad potential. Time to grow up and reach it. If he needs extra counseling I’m sure Mack will get it for him if he decides he’s worth it.

  757. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Im just trying to view this from a legal stance.

    And legally he looks very good right now.

    ***

    @DAV

    we have no idea what will happen in the trial, or what statements, facts & evidence will be presented.

    it’s all pure speculation right now among Raider fans.

    I wouldn’t say he looks “very good” legally right now, since the judge just found him guilty of all 4 charges yesterday. Must have been a reason for that imo. We weren’t in the courtroom and we’re just trying to peice together the puzzle from random quotes & articles. How many times has the media been wrong or twisted the truth in matters concerning the Raiders over the past 20 years??

    time will tell.

  758. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Raider Mike

    email me

    info@cosmicdanceband.com

  759. weaselbit Says:

    You should move to Pittsburg Justfire. Then you can snuggle up to rapist Ben and route for the team you defend…

    2 accusations is a pattern. Period. had it not been for the suspension there would have been more.

    Go ahead, defend your idol some more.

  760. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I believe Rolando will be starting week 1 at MLB.

    Going out on a limb, but I think they will stick with him until the court stuff is settled, and that may take awhile.

  761. Raider O Says:

    Vegas,

    Rape is not about someone’s inability to get laid. According to law & order, it’s about display of power & control.

  762. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Courts will determine if McClain is ultimately guilty of charges. Appears to be guilty of bad judgment for being in wrong place, wrong time.

    Keep in mind McClain matter will be reviewed under NFL personal conduct policy when legal process is finished.

    McClain’s attorney calls verdict `meaningless’ and looks forward to appeal. Doubt Roger Goodell would agree . .

    Looks like Travis Goethel is Raiders MLB for the time being. Curious to see how Raiders handle the time while McClain awaits appeal

    Interesting reading all the tweets about what Raiders should do with RoMac. No precedent with new regime.

    Raiders’ McClain may ultimately prevail in jury trial, but his mere presence on Nov. 30 stands agains everything new regime stands for.

    Interesting thing about Raiders’ RoMac . . . film addict, coaches swear by his preparation. Off field, like he’s character on `The Wire’

    What seems clear about Raiders’ RoMac — twice within a year, guns have gone off in his presence in Decatur. Time to rethink home base.

    -Jerry McDonald (twitter)

  763. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Can’t win the argument attack the arguer.

    Seen that coming from a mile away.

    Why don’t you move to Georgia, so you can snuggle up with some college girls who will lead you into a bathroom than try to lead you into handcuffs?

  764. weaselbit Says:

    Don’t really understand why any Raiders fan would defend Rapistburger.

    Weird.

  765. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Rape is not about someone’s inability to get laid. According to law & order, it’s about display of power & control.

    *************************

    Rape is defined by the court system, IMO.

  766. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Don’t really understand why any Raiders fan would defend Rapistburger.

    ***************************

    Uhh….because I have the ability to look at the situation of the human, and not what uniform they wear.

    I think Ben got rail-roaded by Goodell. Just my opinion; I still can feel that way and root for him to lose on Sunday.

  767. Twocents Says:

    So it boils down to keeping McClain or saving 13.5 mil. over the next 4 years.
    I’d keep the money, wish Rolando well and move on.

  768. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Off field, like he’s character on `The Wire’

    *********************

    Tequilla = Snoop

    Rolando = We-Bey

  769. weaselbit Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 9:50 am

    Can’t win the argument attack the arguer.

    Seen that coming from a mile away.

    Why don’t you move to Georgia, so you can snuggle up with some college girls who will lead you into a bathroom than try to lead you into handcuffs?

    Weasel:
    You poor baby. Everybody’s out to get you.

  770. Just Fire Baby Says:

    ???????????????????

  771. CanuckRaider Says:

    Just another fine example of “Stupid is as stupid does”…At this point I couldn’t care less if the Raiders keep McClain or cut his stupid, immature butt…Things will be fine with or without him.

  772. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Through his first two seasons in Oakland, the middle linebacker — the team’s first-round pick in 2010, taken eighth overall — has shown a low aptitude for leadership and been mostly unproductive.

    He’s often out of position, usually invisible at key moments and generally unwilling to publicly hold himself accountable. He has exhibited many of the characteristics new Raiders management — general manager Reggie McKenzie and coach Dennis Allen — have made clear are unwelcome.

    Considering his pedigree as a megastar at Alabama, in the frequently glorified Southeastern Conference, McClain has been a $40 million ($23 mil guaranteed) bust.

    -Monte Poole

    ***

    thoughts JFB & Jhill ??

  773. Just Fire Baby Says:

    He’s often out of position, usually invisible at key moments and generally unwilling to publicly hold himself accountable.

    ************************

    I would agree that his lack of accountability was shocking last year, although vet “leaders” like Stan Routt and TK were strumming the same song as well.

  774. weaselbit Says:

    Never wrestle w a pig. You both get muddy and the pig likes it.

    I’m out.

  775. CanuckRaider Says:

    Freeing up his contract money will only add to what could be a free agent bonanza next year.

  776. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    People never remember that McClain was a 3-4 ILB playing out of position in an ineffective and outdated scheme.

    I guess its easier to ignorantly bash..

  777. hwnrdr Says:

    until Seth Rogen’s twin was done.

    Now that is funny!

  778. RaiderRockstar Says:

    impossible for a 3-4 ILB who was a Top 10 draft pick and the most NFL ready of anybody in the draft, the smartest player Nick Saban ever coached, film room junkie … to make the transition to 4-3 MLB in two years ??

  779. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Never wrestle w a pig. You both get muddy and the pig likes it.

    ***********************

    LOL

    All I was doing was arguing the case and the preceeding suspension, your the one who started getting personal and throwing out the “mud”

    Clown

  780. CanuckRaider Says:

    #776: It’s the combination of not playing up to expectations and boorish off-field behavior that posters are mostly bashing…While he does still have “potential” it’s not like we’d be losing Ray Lewis or anything.

  781. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Seth Rogen’s twin = JFB ??

  782. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    McCondo = menace to excellence

  783. CanuckRaider Says:

    When Romac gets out of jail perhaps he can get a job as Sacha Cohen’s bodyguard.

  784. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 10:06 am
    impossible for a 3-4 ILB who was a Top 10 draft pick and the most NFL ready of anybody in the draft, the smartest player Nick Saban ever coached, film room junkie … to make the transition to 4-3 MLB in two years ??

    —-

    An immature 20 year old going into a organization with no structure, no accountability, transition into a in-effective scheme.. IDK..Dont think there are many players that can.

  785. RaiderRockstar Says:

    @Canuck

    exactly!!

    people are trying to compare McClain to Lewis so hard it’s funny… hoping we’ll ignore the fact that Lewis was a 4x Pro Bowler fresh off of a Super Bowl victory.

    the Ravens sticking by him would be MUCH different than the Raiders sticking by McClain [read Poole's comment 772]

    Lewis wasn’t even a Top 25 pick! McClain was Top 10.

    McClain is heading towards bust status, while Lewis was heading towards a HOF career. no comparison

  786. bcz24 Says:

    759.weaselbit Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 9:47 am
    You should move to Pittsburg Justfire. Then you can snuggle up to rapist Ben and route for the team you defend…

    2 accusations is a pattern. Period. had it not been for the suspension there would have been more.

    Go ahead, defend your idol some more.
    **********************
    You keep saying 2 accusations is a pattern, but defend Rolando McClain who clearly (by your definition) has a pattern of violence and ‘thuggish behavior’. You are being very hypocritical right now.

  787. CanuckRaider Says:

    #785: Agreed…We’d be just fine without him…Better if he doesn’t straighten his act out.

  788. RaiderRockstar Says:

    @DAV

    Greg Biekert, Danny Clark, Napolean Harris & Kirk Morrison were all better than Rolando McClain with the same issues you described in #784

  789. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    I can probably put together an argument for McClain’s performance if he were on the Ravens being better than his here…That D was stacked.

    So those comparisons on ability are invalid.

  790. CanuckRaider Says:

    Now the Ravens losing Suggs for the year is a big loss…Us losing Romac?…not even close.

  791. The Big Banana Says:

    What’s the word, Nation?

  792. CanuckRaider Says:

    #788: Clark or Biekert in the middle with the outside speed we now have would be very effective indeed.

  793. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I can probably put together an argument for McClain’s performance if he were on the Ravens being better than his here…That D was stacked.

    So those comparisons on ability are invalid.

    ***

    @DAV

    McClain’s supporting cast is 10x better than Morrisons was, as I have pointed out many times and those comments usually fall on deaf ears

    If I don’t get to use that, neither do you

  794. Marks hair Says:

    He was found guilty.. He’ll be suspended.

  795. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 10:13 am
    @DAV

    Greg Biekert, Danny Clark, Napolean Harris & Kirk Morrison were all better than Rolando McClain with the same issues you described in #784

    —-

    Oh yea? They all were playing out of position? Were immature? 20-21 years old? Me thinks not.

    Performance wise i’ll give you Biek. Maybe Clark.

  796. The Big Banana Says:

    Can Biekert still run and tackle?

  797. RAIDER NATION STATION http://www.raidernationstation.com/ Says:

    762. Flippin love Jerry Mac…

    Go Nation!~

  798. hwnrdr Says:

    Rockstar…lol, no i think Weasel used that comparison to Big Ben!

  799. Just Fire Baby Says:

    When Ray Lewis was going through his trial, he had never even led his team to the playoffs yet, and his teams record through 4 years was 24-39-1

  800. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 10:20 am
    When Ray Lewis was going through his trial, he had never even led his team to the playoffs yet, and his teams record through 4 years was 24-39-1

    —-

    Thats what I thought..

    I thought I remembered it happening before the SB..

  801. CanuckRaider Says:

    Well, time to start my payday doings…Think this is going to be a weird day…I actually found an earlier post by Kell to be bang on.

  802. DKnight007 Says:

    776.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 10:02 am
    People never remember that McClain was a 3-4 ILB playing out of position in an ineffective and outdated scheme.

    I guess its easier to ignorantly bash..

    ^^^^^^^^
    Yep. Old Al and his puppett D Coordinators always trying to put square pegs into round holes in an archaic one dimensional defensive scheme that sucked.

  803. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 10:18 am
    RaiderRockstar Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 10:13 am
    @DAV

    Greg Biekert, Danny Clark, Napolean Harris & Kirk Morrison were all better than Rolando McClain with the same issues you described in #784

    —-

    Oh yea? They all were playing out of position? Were immature? 20-21 years old? Me thinks not.

    Performance wise i’ll give you Biek. Maybe Clark.

    —-

    None of em (outside of Harris)were first round picks either.. They didnt have that pressure.

  804. RAIDER NATION STATION http://www.raidernationstation.com/ Says:

    I would absolutely love to see McClain, after all his struggles, with family, with the law, fighting, would love to see him grow into the Pro Bowl caliber, team leader he could / should be but ultimately you cannot help someone who doesn’t want help.

    Not religious per se’ but wonder if a visit to Pastor Kaufmann with Reggie Mac in tow might not be in order?

    Gotta get right and all that pain, negativity? Ain’t goin’ anywhere. Might as well focus and channel it into the gifts God bestowed upon you right?

    Curry / McClain. The God Squad delivering righteous thunder every Sunday…

    Just a thought…

  805. DKnight007 Says:

    McK should try and sign a vet MLB/ILB who can teach these other young LB’s how to play and be pros.

  806. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Following a Super Bowl XXXIV party in Atlanta on January 31, 2000, a fight broke out between Lewis and his companions and another group of people, resulting in the stabbing deaths of Jacinth Baker and Richard Lollar. Lewis and two companions, Reginald Oakley and Joseph Sweeting, were questioned by Atlanta police, and eleven days later the three men were indicted on murder and aggravated assault charges. -WIKI

    ***

    dead wrong fellas!

  807. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Now Ray was making Pro Bowls and was an impact player already, but the Ravens rushing defense after his 3rd year was 18th in the league.

    That is very do-able for the Raiders and Rolando this season, IMO.

  808. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 10:24 am
    Following a Super Bowl XXXIV party in Atlanta on January 31, 2000, a fight broke out between Lewis and his companions and another group of people, resulting in the stabbing deaths of Jacinth Baker and Richard Lollar. Lewis and two companions, Reginald Oakley and Joseph Sweeting, were questioned by Atlanta police, and eleven days later the three men were indicted on murder and aggravated assault charges. -WIKI

    ***

    dead wrong fellas!

    —-

    yea, just read that..

  809. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Rockstar,

    I know they teach math a little differently in Lodi, but that arrest came in Jan ‘00, basically after the ‘99 season.

    They won the Super Bowl in the ‘00 season, with the Super Bowl in Jan ‘01. Remember, we actually were part of that playoff bracket?

  810. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Ray was making Pro Bowls and was an impact player already, but the Ravens rushing defense after his 3rd year was 18th in the league

    ***

    @JFB

    well I guess that blows a hole in DAV’s “supporting cast” theory

  811. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    WAIT!! That super bowl party wasnt the Ravens party lol…

  812. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Dude it is like two paragraphs below the one you quoted on Wiki:

    The following year, Lewis was named Super Bowl XXXV MVP. However, the signature phrase “I’m going to Disney World!” was given instead to quarterback Trent Dilfer.

  813. The Big Banana Says:

    I know they teach math a little differently in Lodi, but…

    —————————

    Dam! Spicy in here this morning.

  814. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Although the thought of a guy winning Super Bowl MVP, than being involved in a double-murder, all in about a 12 hour span sounds riveting, it didn’t happen.

  815. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 10:26 am
    Ray was making Pro Bowls and was an impact player already, but the Ravens rushing defense after his 3rd year was 18th in the league

    ***

    @JFB

    well I guess that blows a hole in DAV’s “supporting cast” theory

    —-

    Umm. It was the same team.. they just got better, right?…

  816. RAIDER NATION STATION http://www.raidernationstation.com/ Says:

    DKnight007 Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 10:23 am
    776.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 10:02 am
    People never remember that McClain was a 3-4 ILB playing out of position in an ineffective and outdated scheme.

    I guess its easier to ignorantly bash..

    ^^^^^^^^
    Yep. Old Al and his puppett D Coordinators always trying to put square pegs into round holes in an archaic one dimensional defensive scheme that sucked.

    ==========

    False.

    Sucked? Yes. Especially last year but one dimensional? Untrue.

    5-2, 3-4, Tampa 2-3, Wolverine, Nickle, Dime, Big Nick, Psycho package ect ect.

    Davis was always light years ahead even when he was behind.

    Teams like the Super bowl Giants, Green Bay and Patriots all know Al’s “natural pressure” 4 man rush defense without regard to stats is where its at.

    He was right except we don’t have D play makers. nGreen Bay fieled one of the statistically worst defenses in the League but picked off like 30 passes and won all but 1 game in the regs.

    GB, NE, NYG all know what Davis knew all along. It just took banks of computers and massive amounts of analytic data crunching to convince them.

  817. RaiderRockstar Says:

    @JFB

    after the Rams/Titans super bowl party … gotcha

    thought it was the Giants/Ravens SB partay!!

    need to retake the roman numerals exam. looked the same to me

    anyways, doesnt change the fact that he was a 3x Pro Bowler before this happened as opposed to a 2x scrub

  818. DKnight007 Says:

    Free Agent vet LB’s the Raiders should look to sign that I think would be great fits for this young LB corp to learn from and they would provide a great vet presence in the locker room and provide valuable leadership:

    MLB Gary Brackett, formerly of the Colts
    ILB Rocky McIntosh, formerly of Skins
    MLB EJ Henderson, formerly of Vikes

  819. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    I called for McIntosh & EJ yesterday, Ill pass on Brackett.

  820. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Who are some MLB’s who came in and were great right away?

  821. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I am the only one left for you guys to argue with ??

  822. DKnight007 Says:

    816.RAIDER NATION STATION http://www.raidernationstation.com/ Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 10:31 am
    DKnight007 Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 10:23 am
    776.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 10:02 am
    People never remember that McClain was a 3-4 ILB playing out of position in an ineffective and outdated scheme.

    I guess its easier to ignorantly bash..

    ^^^^^^^^
    Yep. Old Al and his puppett D Coordinators always trying to put square pegs into round holes in an archaic one dimensional defensive scheme that sucked.

    ==========

    False.

    Sucked? Yes. Especially last year but one dimensional? Untrue.

    5-2, 3-4, Tampa 2-3, Wolverine, Nickle, Dime, Big Nick, Psycho package ect ect.

    Davis was always light years ahead even when he was behind.

    Teams like the Super bowl Giants, Green Bay and Patriots all know Al’s “natural pressure” 4 man rush defense without regard to stats is where its at.

    He was right except we don’t have D play makers. nGreen Bay fieled one of the statistically worst defenses in the League but picked off like 30 passes and won all but 1 game in the regs.

    GB, NE, NYG all know what Davis knew all along. It just took banks of computers and massive amounts of analytic data crunching to convince them.

    ^^^^^^^^
    The Raiders were a two or three dimensional defensive team last year under Chucku B?? hahaha don’t make me laugh

    At least the year before under Marshall, he was trying to make them more into a two dimensional defensive team.

    NY Giants are a 2 dimensional 4-3 team that don’t try to fit square pegs into round holes and they make adjustments on the fly.

  823. DMAC Says:

    Morning/afternoon peoples!

    Go A’s!

  824. Just Fire Baby Says:

    anyways, doesnt change the fact that he was a 3x Pro Bowler before this happened as opposed to a 2x scrub

    **********************

    This is fact.

    Just saying, when Ray Lewis was in that courtroom, it was nowhere near the “Ray Lewis” we think of today.

    He was basically a young stud on a crappy team, that a lot of people really never watched or seen much of.

  825. DKnight007 Says:

    Free Agent vet LB’s the Raiders should look to sign that I think would be great fits for this young LB corp to learn from and they would provide a great vet presence in the locker room and provide valuable leadership:

    MLB Gary Brackett, formerly of the Colts
    ILB Rocky McIntosh, formerly of Skins
    MLB EJ Henderson, formerly of Vikes

  826. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Sean Lee would be pretty nice to have right about now..

  827. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Teams like the Super bowl Giants, Green Bay and Patriots all know Al’s “natural pressure” 4 man rush defense without regard to stats is where its at.

    **************************

    When the Packers won the Super Bowl that year, they aligned in a 2-4-5 over 60% of the time all year.

  828. DKnight007 Says:

    819.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 10:33 am
    I called for McIntosh & EJ yesterday, Ill pass on Brackett.

    ^^^^^^^^^
    Let’s hope Reggie gets on the phone with either EJ or Rocky.

    They would be solid fits with the Raiders. Especially now.

  829. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Who are some MLB’s who came in and were great right away?

    ***

    @DAV

    Napoleon Harris wasn’t great, but he was good enough (as a rookie in Chuck B’s defense) to get us to the Super Bowl.

    he made Pro Football Weekly All-Rookie team and was a huge bargaining chip in getting the highly coveted Randy Moss in ‘05

  830. hwnrdr Says:

    LOL, I’m here, but don’t really feel like arguing today!

  831. Raider O Says:

    LOL Hwnrdr. Same here.

  832. hwnrdr Says:

    Anyways, why is EJ Henderson still out there? Not dogging the player, but I heard his name mentioned by a few in here months ago!

  833. DMAC Says:

    Vegas,

    Prepare for a giants beat down!
    You guys get to see a young stud in the makings w/ Parker going 2night.

  834. hwnrdr Says:

    Parker is starting tonight? Hmmm…Do we have Cespedis back?

  835. Raider O Says:

    Rocky McIntoch is not an ILB or MLB (I know he played ILB for wash). He is a WLB in 4-3 scheme.

  836. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Likewise D-Mac, you get to see an old stud in Barry Zito!!!

  837. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Nappy Harris is the owner of two Beggars Pizza locations and is currently the Democratic Party’s nominee for the Illinois State Senate’s 15th district.

    http://harrisforilsenate.com/

    did you vote for him, BSJ ??

  838. DMAC Says:

    hwnrdr Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 10:39 am

    Anyways, why is EJ Henderson still out there? Not dogging the player, but I heard his name mentioned by a few in here months ago!
    ==========

    Good question?
    I wanted him as soon as I found out he was a FA a few months ago. Def. a head scratcher as to why he’s still available. Maybe past injuries are a major concern for teams passing on him.

  839. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 10:38 am
    Who are some MLB’s who came in and were great right away?

    ***

    @DAV

    Napoleon Harris wasn’t great, but he was good enough (as a rookie in Chuck B’s defense) to get us to the Super Bowl.

    he made Pro Football Weekly All-Rookie team and was a huge bargaining chip in getting the highly coveted Randy Moss in ‘05

    —-

    LOL! There’s no way your not joking right??…Right?!!?!

    1. HE didnt get us anywhere, HE happened to play with a bunch of studs that were already on the way to the Super Bowl when he got drafted.

    2. That #7 overall pick was the HUGE bargaining chip to get the “Cancerious, ship him out fast” Randy Moss. Harris was a throw in.

  840. DMAC Says:

    hwnrdr Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 10:41 am

    Parker is starting tonight? Hmmm…Do we have Cespedis back?
    =========

    Not yet, but soon

  841. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Crawford has been swinging the bat well, look for him to stay at the top of the lineup and make things happen.

  842. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    hwnrdr Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 10:39 am
    Anyways, why is EJ Henderson still out there? Not dogging the player, but I heard his name mentioned by a few in here months ago!

    —-

    Injuries..

  843. hwnrdr Says:

    Dam, Deuce is vicious this morning!

  844. Just Fire Baby Says:

    BTW, I knew after Pujols went 3-4 with 2 RBI’s and never hit it out of the infield, that was the proverbial “slumpbuster”.

    Look for him to take off now.

  845. RaiderRockstar Says:

    already on the way to the Super Bowl when he got drafted

    ***

    @DAV

    if you can win games without a starting MLB, why the heck are we even talking about McClain ??

  846. hwnrdr Says:

    Liek I said…both teams over the last few years have swept each other at home, so…keeping true to my stance…not arguing this morning!

  847. DMAC Says:

    Vegas,

    Your boy the “freak” played a nice role in The Avengers.

  848. DMAC Says:

    Maybe he should stick to acting.

  849. hwnrdr Says:

    847.DMAC Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 10:45 am
    Vegas,

    Your boy the “freak” played a nice role in The Avengers.

    848.DMAC Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 10:46 am
    Maybe he should stick to acting.

    LOL, OUCH! Someone mentioned that in here on Monday I believe…funny sh*t!

  850. DMAC Says:

    Me
    lol

  851. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Not my district RRS but I would…ironic his site does not mention the Raiders

  852. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Not my district RRS but I would

    ***

    @BSJ

    ever been to Beggars Pizza ??

    I heard if you request the pizza “Condo style” they give you extra toppings for free!

  853. DKnight007 Says:

    DMAC Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 10:45 am
    Vegas,

    Your boy the “freak” played a nice role in The Avengers

    ^^^^^^^
    Avengers= OVERRATED!

  854. DMAC Says:

    DKnight007 Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 10:54 am

    DMAC Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 10:45 am
    Vegas,

    Your boy the “freak” played a nice role in The Avengers

    ^^^^^^^
    Avengers= OVERRATED!
    ===========

    Not in my book. Actually a good film.

  855. RAIDER NATION STATION http://www.raidernationstation.com/ Says:

    Enjoy the afternoon Nation!~ Gonna go see the Avengers in a little while…Scar Jo…

  856. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Timmy will be fine.

    Pressing a little, and getting beat when he is up in the count actually, trying to strike everyone out instead of getting them to chase a pitch and beat it into the ground.

    I have no concerns there. Posey and Belt are actually concerning me more. Not driving the ball at all, settling for lots of dinky little singles.

  857. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 10:44 am
    already on the way to the Super Bowl when he got drafted

    ***

    @DAV

    if you can win games without a starting MLB, why the heck are we even talking about McClain ??

    —-

    The Giants just won the Super Bowl with Chase Blackburn as their MLB.

    You said Harris ‘got us to the super bowl’

  858. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    CHASE BLACKBURN!!!

    And how did they do that?!?!?!?!

    With a good scheme and players that fit it!!!!!!!

  859. DKnight007 Says:

    Love the way Melvin has this A’s team scrapping for wins.

    Reddick is the man and Cook will be the closer by the end of the year, if not sooner.

    This team still needs to improve on situational hitting and I would like to see Melvin bunt more and manufacture runs when someone lousy is at bat (like Barton)

    When is Selig going to get his head out of his azz and put replay in baseball? That non sense yesterday, almost cost the A’s a win.

    Give managers two chances to challenge a play/foul call/home run call (no challenges on balls and strikes obviously) if they miss on the first challenege, they lose the opportunity to challenge the rest of the game.

    It’s simple. Baseball needds to get out of the stone age.

  860. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Chase Blackburn > McRussell

    print it

  861. DKnight007 Says:

    854.DMAC Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 10:55 am
    DKnight007 Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 10:54 am

    DMAC Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 10:45 am
    Vegas,

    Your boy the “freak” played a nice role in The Avengers

    ^^^^^^^
    Avengers= OVERRATED!
    ===========

    Not in my book. Actually a good film.

    ^^^^^^^^
    Too much non sense going on for me and not enough heart. An overhyped and overrated film that doesn’t live up to the hype.

    The 3D conversion was terrible as well.

  862. Raider J Says:

    good action in avengers.

    Better fight scene

    Hulk vs. Loki
    or
    McClain’s homeboys?

  863. DMAC Says:

    This team still needs to improve on situational hitting and I would like to see Melvin bunt more and manufacture runs when someone lousy is at bat (like Barton)
    ==========

    Still wondering why the hell this scrub is still on the team?
    Billy Beane must really love this guy. I’m done w/ him. He’s gotten at least 4 years at 1st and hasn’t shown a damn thing.
    Time to move on and go w/ the Kilamonster!

    Barton = Beane scholarship

  864. DMAC Says:

    DKnight007 Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 11:00 am

    854.DMAC Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 10:55 am
    DKnight007 Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 10:54 am

    DMAC Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 10:45 am
    Vegas,

    Your boy the “freak” played a nice role in The Avengers

    ^^^^^^^
    Avengers= OVERRATED!
    ===========

    Not in my book. Actually a good film.

    ^^^^^^^^
    Too much non sense going on for me and not enough heart. An overhyped and overrated film that doesn’t live up to the hype.

    The 3D conversion was terrible as well.
    ==========

    IMO all 3D movies suck.
    Go watch the regular one.

  865. hwnrdr Says:

    When is Selig going to get his head out of his azz and put replay in baseball? That non sense yesterday, almost cost the A’s a win.

    That is true! Thank goodness for Reddick and Kila Ka’aihue!

  866. Just Fire Baby Says:

    No to baseball replay!!!

    Except for home run plays, I vote no.

  867. hwnrdr Says:

    862.Raider J Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 11:01 am
    good action in avengers.

    Better fight scene

    Hulk vs. Loki
    or
    McClain’s homeboys?

    Buwahahaha! Hulk smashed little man!

  868. raidermarty Says:

    What a freakin idiot!Gotta say i’m extremely dissapointed with McClain. I know everyone makes mistakes and deserves a second chance but he has been neither likeable nor productive since he’s been here so why should we keep him around? Especially since we are all about high character guys now. I think he’s gotta prove that he wants to be here now-

  869. DKnight007 Says:

    The “comedy” in Avengers seemed forced at times as well.

    No need to Black Widow or Hawk to be in the film and Cap Americas character didn’t seem like he had much to do. Evans is terrible also.

    Sam Jackson is a caricature if himself. Can’t take him seriously as an actor anymore.

    Loki is weak azz villian overall IMO.

  870. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 11:00 am
    Chase Blackburn > McRussell

    print it

    —-

    He’s no Napolean Harris..:)

  871. RaiderRockstar Says:

    @DK007

    just two questions: why was the Hulk going bananas uncontrollable in the beginning, then was suddenly a helpful team member when they got to facing the bad guys?

    Also, why did it take so long for Hawkeye to run out of arrows? how many were in that case, man? didn’t look like a big case! haha

    otherwise, pretty good flick. clean family film with plenty of action and actually quite funny

  872. DMAC Says:

    Yes to replay, but it has to be fast. The game is slow as it is, but time after time we keep seeing these old ass farts make the wrong calls. Something has got to change.

  873. DKnight007 Says:

    866.Just Fire Baby Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 11:04 am
    No to baseball replay!!!

    Except for home run plays, I vote no.

    ^^^^^^^^^
    I want every call to be right. Bad calls have a direct effect of the game.

    No excuse in this day and age of hi tech to not have replay in baseball. It cost the kid from Colorado a no hitter last year becausae of a umpires idiotic bad call.

    Baseball needs to get out of the stone age.

  874. Marks hair Says:

    We are so soft up the middle.. Branch will lead all safties in tacs.

  875. DMAC Says:

    Its a movie.
    Movie.
    Why so many ?????

  876. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    DMAC Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 11:06 am
    Yes to replay, but it has to be fast. The game is slow as it is, but time after time we keep seeing these old ass farts make the wrong calls. Something has got to change.

    —-

    How bout 1 umpire who’s ONLY job is to be in the clubhouse with a TV for replays. Like a booth review..

  877. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Bad calls are part of baseball.

    Didn’t the Cardinals get screwed out of a WS in the 80’s on a bad call?

    It happens. Concerning yourself over a call in the 7th inning of a day game in May, is completely overanalyzing things.

    Fans at the game don’t want replays, and they love watching coaches fight with umpires.

    I would be for the removal of instant replay in football (aside from two minute situations) as well.

    Just play on, it all evens out in the end typically.

  878. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Loki is weak azz villian overall

    ***

    Hollywood going for the brainy trickeration guys you can’t trust these days.

    is Hue Jackson featured in a comic book, yet?

  879. hwnrdr Says:

    871.RaiderRockstar Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 11:05 am
    @DK007

    just two questions: why was the Hulk going bananas uncontrollable in the beginning, then was suddenly a helpful team member when they got to facing the bad guys?

    Also, why did it take so long for Hawkeye to run out of arrows? how many were in that case, man? didn’t look like a big case! haha

    otherwise, pretty good flick. clean family film with plenty of action and actually quite funny

    You know, it was better than I expected. Its hard already to combine a bunch of superheroes in one movie! It actually worked (for me)!
    As for Hulk, didn’t he say that His secret is that he’s always angry? Also, didn’t Loki make him fly off of the ship?

  880. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 11:05 am
    @DK007

    just two questions: why was the Hulk going bananas uncontrollable in the beginning, then was suddenly a helpful team member when they got to facing the bad guys?

    Also, why did it take so long for Hawkeye to run out of arrows? how many were in that case, man? didn’t look like a big case! haha

    otherwise, pretty good flick. clean family film with plenty of action and actually quite funny

    —-

    LOL!! Perfect analysis..

    I thought the same things man..

  881. DMAC Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 11:08 am

    DMAC Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 11:06 am
    Yes to replay, but it has to be fast. The game is slow as it is, but time after time we keep seeing these old ass farts make the wrong calls. Something has got to change.

    —-

    How bout 1 umpire who’s ONLY job is to be in the clubhouse with a TV for replays. Like a booth review..
    ===========

    Sure, but its gotta be quick.

  882. HairyBush Says:

    I thought when Al passed on so would the off season drama. nope.

  883. DKnight007 Says:

    871.RaiderRockstar Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 11:05 am
    @DK007

    just two questions: why was the Hulk going bananas uncontrollable in the beginning, then was suddenly a helpful team member when they got to facing the bad guys?

    Also, why did it take so long for Hawkeye to run out of arrows? how many were in that case, man? didn’t look like a big case! haha

    otherwise, pretty good flick. clean family film with plenty of action and actually quite funny

    ^^^^^^^^
    Another one of the question marks….why Hulk went crazy at first going to kill everyone and then is helpful and able to talk later??

    That was bad.

    The Hawk character guy was a waste of time and the film just had a lack of heart. It could have had more heart, but the director chose to dumbing it down with adding more CGI effects crap.

    Good film…I guess…just an overhyped film, that is not great by any means and is currently overrated IMO.

  884. DMAC Says:

    Hulk is a nut case. He’s one of those type of friends, where you need to be alert at all times, because you can end up fighting him by the end of the night.

  885. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    HairyBush Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 11:10 am
    I thought when Al passed on so would the off season drama. nope.

    —-

    Aftershocks, mere aftershocks..

  886. Just Fire Baby Says:

    It cost the kid from Colorado a no hitter last year becausae of a umpires idiotic bad call.

    ***********************

    Galarage for the Tigers lost a perfect game on a bad call, and everyone else seemed more upset than him.

    It happens, I like my baseball entrenched firmly in the stone age.

    All the unwritten rules, drilling people, managers fighting with umps, questionable calls. I love it all.

    Can we leave the twitter-verse, computer enhanced replay, and digital age out of ONE sport please!!!!

  887. RaiderDuck Says:

    HairyBush Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 11:10 am
    I thought when Al passed on so would the off season drama. nope.

    ==========================================

    McClain’s kind of the last gasp for that behavior, unless SeaBass falls off the wagon again…

  888. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    BATMAN > Any other Comic Movies.

  889. DMAC Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 11:08 am

    Bad calls are part of baseball.

    Didn’t the Cardinals get screwed out of a WS in the 80’s on a bad call?
    =========

    Exactly!
    C’mon Vegas, that the 80’s dog.
    It’s now 2012!

  890. DKnight007 Says:

    877.Just Fire Baby Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 11:08 am
    Bad calls are part of baseball.

    Didn’t the Cardinals get screwed out of a WS in the 80’s on a bad call?

    It happens. Concerning yourself over a call in the 7th inning of a day game in May, is completely overanalyzing things.

    Fans at the game don’t want replays, and they love watching coaches fight with umpires.

    I would be for the removal of instant replay in football (aside from two minute situations) as well.

    Just play on, it all evens out in the end typically.

    ^^^^^^^^
    So since bad calls are part of baseball, that means it is okay and people should expect it?

    Huh?? That is an outdated and archaic way of thinking buddy.

  891. HairyBush Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 11:11 am
    HairyBush Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 11:10 am
    I thought when Al passed on so would the off season drama. nope.

    —-

    Aftershocks, mere aftershocks..
    ——————
    yeah, probaly.

  892. RaiderRockstar Says:

    McClain’s kind of the last gasp for that behavior, unless SeaBass falls off the wagon again…

    ***

    LOL, true Duck

    and Seabass always looks like he has a few beers in him

  893. HairyBush Says:

    RaiderDuck Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 11:12 am
    HairyBush Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 11:10 am
    I thought when Al passed on so would the off season drama. nope.

    ==========================================

    McClain’s kind of the last gasp for that behavior, unless SeaBass falls off the wagon again…
    —————–
    I was surprised DHB got himself into a little trouble.

  894. DMAC Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 11:12 am

    BATMAN > Any other Comic Movies.
    =========

    Not the latest ones, w/ that muthaphucka playing Batman who mumbles and can’t understand schit he’s saying.

  895. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Condo style pizza = wish sandwich

  896. RaiderRockstar Says:

    anybody looking forward to the new Spider-Man movie with all new cast ??

    Mike will be pleased with Sally Field playing Aunt May!

  897. Marks hair Says:

    Loki was the original villan who brought the avengers together in the comics.. They tried to stay true..

  898. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    DMAC Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 11:14 am
    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 11:12 am

    BATMAN > Any other Comic Movies.
    =========

    Not the latest ones, w/ that muthaphucka playing Batman who mumbles and can’t understand schit he’s saying.

    —-

    All the ones before the past 3 have been CRAP.

    The one’s with Bale have been GOLD.

    You are high as a kite if you dont like them..lol

  899. DMAC Says:

    The only thing I want to stay the same are the umps calling balls and strikes, because each ump is unique in their strike zone. Everything else should be able to be replayed or challenged.

  900. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    BTW, what is this “Hulk”? I thought Bixby was dead…

  901. Just Fire Baby Says:

    So since bad calls are part of baseball, that means it is okay and people should expect it?

    *******************

    Yes.

    Look at football, they tweak the replay rules, have every angle in HD and yet there are still bad/controversial calls every weekend.

    Baseball is not made for replay. Lots of times, players are out on the basepaths when the ball beats them to the bag, even though the tag me be a little high and the in theory he got his foot in slightly ahead of the tag.

    Yet, the players never complain about it. So why should the fans?

  902. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I guess if your going that direction, might as well get rid of the umpires on the bases and just go to a tennis-style sensor system.

    Puke

  903. DMAC Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 11:17 am

    DMAC Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 11:14 am
    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 11:12 am

    BATMAN > Any other Comic Movies.
    =========

    Not the latest ones, w/ that muthaphucka playing Batman who mumbles and can’t understand schit he’s saying.

    —-

    All the ones before the past 3 have been CRAP.

    The one’s with Bale have been GOLD.

    You are high as a kite if you dont like them..lol
    ========

    I like the action in all, but that Batman dude sucks. Maybe it’s just me, but I can’t understand a fking word that tries to come out of his mouth.

  904. Marks hair Says:

    If banner focuses his rage on an enemy before he changes he’s not as confused with who he’s supposed to smash.

  905. DMAC Says:

    Yet, the players never complain about it. So why should the fans?
    ======

    Game results should never be determined by the umps.

  906. hwnrdr Says:

    884.DMAC Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 11:11 am
    Hulk is a nut case. He’s one of those type of friends, where you need to be alert at all times, because you can end up fighting him by the end of the night.

    In the comics, they kind of get away from Hulk becuase of his unexpectedness! And yes, Loki was the original villain and they did stay true to that, but Capt America wasn’t found in the ice until #4!

  907. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    DMAC Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 11:19 am
    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 11:17 am

    DMAC Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 11:14 am
    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 11:12 am

    BATMAN > Any other Comic Movies.
    =========

    Not the latest ones, w/ that muthaphucka playing Batman who mumbles and can’t understand schit he’s saying.

    —-

    All the ones before the past 3 have been CRAP.

    The one’s with Bale have been GOLD.

    You are high as a kite if you dont like them..lol
    ========

    I like the action in all, but that Batman dude sucks. Maybe it’s just me, but I can’t understand a fking word that tries to come out of his mouth.

    —-

    Ya, But that’s the essence of it, your not supposed to recognize his voice.

  908. hwnrdr Says:

    904.Marks hair Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 11:20 am
    If banner focuses his rage on an enemy before he changes he’s not as confused with who he’s supposed to smash.

    Bingo!

  909. DKnight007 Says:

    904.Marks hair Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 11:20 am
    If banner focuses his rage on an enemy before he changes he’s not as confused with who he’s supposed to smash.

    ^^^^^^^^
    Whatever. It’s lame.

  910. DMAC Says:

    Yet, the players never complain about it. So why should the fans?
    ======

    Game results should never be determined by the umps fk-ups.
    Heard on the radio that 20% of calls made are fk ups.
    No excuses man!

  911. hwnrdr Says:

    DMAC, deuce is right! And Christopher Nolan made it the right way! Bat Man is a very dark character! The next one is supposed to end the trilogy! But Bane is in there! Bane is the one who breaks Bat Man’s back…how will they end this one? But I tell you what…Anne Hathaway looks pretty darn good as Cat Woman!

  912. DMAC Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 11:21 am

    DMAC Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 11:19 am
    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 11:17 am

    DMAC Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 11:14 am
    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 11:12 am

    BATMAN > Any other Comic Movies.
    =========

    Not the latest ones, w/ that muthaphucka playing Batman who mumbles and can’t understand schit he’s saying.

    —-

    All the ones before the past 3 have been CRAP.

    The one’s with Bale have been GOLD.

    You are high as a kite if you dont like them..lol
    ========

    I like the action in all, but that Batman dude sucks. Maybe it’s just me, but I can’t understand a fking word that tries to come out of his mouth.

    —-

    Ya, But that’s the essence of it, your not supposed to recognize his voice.
    =========

    The new Batman is annoying to me.

  913. Raider O Says:

    Spiderman & The Hulk > Batman

  914. DMAC Says:

    hwnrdr Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 11:23 am

    DMAC, deuce is right! And Christopher Nolan made it the right way! Bat Man is a very dark character! The next one is supposed to end the trilogy! But Bane is in there! Bane is the one who breaks Bat Man’s back…how will they end this one? But I tell you what…Anne Hathaway looks pretty darn good as Cat Woman!
    ===========

    I still can’t understand schit he says. It annoys the hell out of me. I tell my wife that all the time.
    Thats just me though.

  915. hwnrdr Says:

    LOL, O…Bat Man does know 14 different Martial Arts, but what good are they if the Hulk just smashes!

  916. DKnight007 Says:

    901.Just Fire Baby Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 11:17 am
    So since bad calls are part of baseball, that means it is okay and people should expect it?

    *******************

    Yes.

    Look at football, they tweak the replay rules, have every angle in HD and yet there are still bad/controversial calls every weekend.

    Baseball is not made for replay. Lots of times, players are out on the basepaths when the ball beats them to the bag, even though the tag me be a little high and the in theory he got his foot in slightly ahead of the tag.

    Yet, the players never complain about it. So why should the fans?

    ^^^^^^^^
    Like I said, limit the replay opportunities and it would be just fine.

    Give managers two challenges a game. On close on base plays, home runs, foul balls. If they lose on the first challenge, they can’t use their 2nd challenge.

    Quick and simple. The key is getting the call right.

  917. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Raider O Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 11:24 am
    Spiderman & The Hulk > Batman

    —-

    You have lost ALL credibility if you actually think that either of The Hulk’s were good.

    First 2 Spider-Man’s were cool, thats all.

  918. hwnrdr Says:

    DAMC, I understand…trust me, at home, I always have to keep playing with the volume! LOL

  919. Raider O Says:

    X-MEN were me favorite, but the movie(s) wasn’t that good IMO.

  920. DKnight007 Says:

    917.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 11:26 am
    Raider O Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 11:24 am
    Spiderman & The Hulk > Batman

    —-

    You have lost ALL credibility if you actually think that either of The Hulk’s were good.

    First 2 Spider-Man’s were cool, thats all.

    ^^^^^^^^
    Exactly!

  921. hwnrdr Says:

    Ok, didn’t want to argue but my beef with the Sam Raimi Spidermans was that there is no way in friggen he!! I woudl have casted Tobey Mcfriggenguire as Peter Parker! And don’t get me started on Mary Jane!!! LOL

  922. Raider O Says:

    You are High!!!
    The Hulk 1 was great!

  923. DMAC Says:

    The Hulk movie was boring until the end. Fk’n dialogue was blahblahblahblaha through out the whole movie.

  924. DKnight007 Says:

    914.DMAC Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 11:25 am
    hwnrdr Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 11:23 am

    DMAC, deuce is right! And Christopher Nolan made it the right way! Bat Man is a very dark character! The next one is supposed to end the trilogy! But Bane is in there! Bane is the one who breaks Bat Man’s back…how will they end this one? But I tell you what…Anne Hathaway looks pretty darn good as Cat Woman!
    ===========

    I still can’t understand schit he says. It annoys the hell out of me. I tell my wife that all the time.
    Thats just me though.

    ^^^^^^^^
    Are you deaf?

  925. DKnight007 Says:

    901.Just Fire Baby Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 11:17 am
    So since bad calls are part of baseball, that means it is okay and people should expect it?

    *******************

    Yes.

    Look at football, they tweak the replay rules, have every angle in HD and yet there are still bad/controversial calls every weekend.

    Baseball is not made for replay. Lots of times, players are out on the basepaths when the ball beats them to the bag, even though the tag me be a little high and the in theory he got his foot in slightly ahead of the tag.

    Yet, the players never complain about it. So why should the fans?

    ^^^^^^^^
    Like I said, limit the replay opportunities and it would be just fine.

    Give managers two challenges a game. On close on base plays, home runs, foul balls. If they lose on the first challenge, they can’t use their 2nd challenge.

    Quick and simple. The key is getting the call right.

  926. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Raider O Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 11:28 am
    You are High!!!
    The Hulk 1 was great!

    —-

    So great they had to act like it didnt happen and make another one. Yep.

  927. Raider O Says:

    The Hulk 2 was good, but I like the 1st one more.

  928. DMAC Says:

    And don’t get me started on Mary Jane!!! LOL
    ============

    Mary Jane is great!
    Right, Green Party?

  929. GodsKilla27 Says:

    ROCK THE BELLS 2012!!!!!!!!!

  930. DKnight007 Says:

    I thought Cap America movie was boring, Thor was lame, the Hulf movies sucked. The 3rd Spider Man sucked, Fantastic Four movies sucked, Ghost Rider sucked, Daredevil sucked, Elektra sucked. Iron Man 2 sucked.

    The only Marvel movies I liked were the first Iron Man and first two Spidey films and X Men part 2 and X Men First Class.

  931. hwnrdr Says:

    To me, Hulk (2003) was friggen terrible! The Incredilble Hulk, with Ed Norton was decent, but way better than the previous ones! And in The Avengers, I’m sorry but, Mark Ruffalo or whatever his name is…is too big to be Bruce Banner!

  932. Raider O Says:

    Hulk rules!! And he is Green!!
    Green Party Rules!!

  933. DMAC Says:

    DKnight007 Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 11:28 am

    914.DMAC Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 11:25 am
    hwnrdr Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 11:23 am

    DMAC, deuce is right! And Christopher Nolan made it the right way! Bat Man is a very dark character! The next one is supposed to end the trilogy! But Bane is in there! Bane is the one who breaks Bat Man’s back…how will they end this one? But I tell you what…Anne Hathaway looks pretty darn good as Cat Woman!
    ===========

    I still can’t understand schit he says. It annoys the hell out of me. I tell my wife that all the time.
    Thats just me though.

    ^^^^^^^^
    Are you deaf?
    =========

    No.
    Are you Rodger Ebert?

  934. hwnrdr Says:

    928.DMAC Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 11:30 am
    And don’t get me started on Mary Jane!!! LOL
    ============

    Mary Jane is great!
    Right, Green Party?

    LOL, you know what I’m talking about!!! :)

  935. Marks hair Says:

    The hulk 1?? Where he grew like godzilla? Fking stupid..

  936. Raider O Says:

    That’s it!! You are done!
    Capt America was great, and I don’t like the comic or the character.

  937. HairyBush Says:

    I’m hoping they do a Justice league movie. I loved all the classic villians. Sinestro, Grod the gorilla, Toy man, Sulamangrundy (Sp?), Capt freeze, Braniac, Black Manta, Cheeta, Luthor, Scarecrow.

    That would be sweet!

  938. Raider O Says:

    LMAO Hwnrdr.
    Green Party Rules!

  939. bcz24 Says:

    921.hwnrdr Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 11:27 am
    Ok, didn’t want to argue but my beef with the Sam Raimi Spidermans was that there is no way in friggen he!! I woudl have casted Tobey Mcfriggenguire as Peter Parker! And don’t get me started on Mary Jane!!! LOL
    *********************
    Kirstin Dunst was a big star at the time he cast that trilogy.

  940. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Raider O Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 11:32 am
    That’s it!! You are done!
    Capt America was great, and I don’t like the comic or the character.

    —-

    You must not like quality movies, acting, plot or storytelling either..

  941. Raider J Says:

    “ There are young guys out there showing that they deserve to be up here, guys like [Juron] Criner and Chaz Powell, so it’s a good week for us.” -DVD

    Glad to hear Chaz is standing out. DB depth is necessary.

  942. Marks hair Says:

    Im writing a movie where batman is a mexican woman.. Maybe the director of hulk 1 can do it too..

  943. Raidernationdave Says:

    Wut up Beyotches!

  944. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    ROLANDO MCCLAIN AS A SOCIAL WORKER IS BETTER THAN CHRISTIAN BALE ACTING,OR TRY’N TO ACT..

  945. hwnrdr Says:

    I know, Bcz…but, come on now…Mary Jane at least should be a natural red headed beauty! LOL

  946. bcz24 Says:

    935.Marks hair Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 11:32 am
    The hulk 1?? Where he grew like godzilla? Fking stupid..
    *************
    According to the mythos there really was no limit to the size and strength the Hulk could generate, the angry he got the bigger and stronger he got.

  947. DMAC Says:

    Raidernationdave Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 11:34 am

    Wut up Beyotches!
    ==========

    Nothing much hoe!

  948. Raider O Says:

    You must not like quality movies, acting, plot or storytelling either..
    $$$$$$$$$

    lol
    You must not like comic books and cartoons.

  949. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Home runs are already reviewed.

    Foul balls? So what should the umps do, call everything close fair, so they can play on and than review it?

    You can’t call it foul, have everyone stop, than review it and call it fair. What do you do than, give them a ground-rule double?

    Again, like I said, lots of unwritten rules in baseball. When you turn the double-play, you don’t have to technically be on the second base bag when you catch it. Runners are out if the throw beats them, even if the tag is a little high and they are not in theory out.

    Replay would completely change the way the game is played and umped, IMO.

  950. Raider J Says:

    I’m hoping The Avengers bring in my all time favorite comic hero, Vision. He fits in with the intergalactic war they seem to be setting up.

  951. bcz24 Says:

    Can we PLEASE stop with the Avengers spoilers! I haven’t seen it yet dammit!

  952. Raidernationdave Says:

    LMAO!

    ==============

    DMAC Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 11:36 am

    Raidernationdave Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 11:34 am

    Wut up Beyotches!
    ==========

    Nothing much hoe!

  953. DMAC Says:

    Raidernationdave Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 11:39 am

    LMAO!

    ==============

    DMAC Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 11:36 am

    Raidernationdave Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 11:34 am

    Wut up Beyotches!
    ==========

    Nothing much hoe!
    =========

    TGIF brother

  954. Raidernationdave Says:

    The butler did it!

    +++++++++++++++++++

    bcz24 Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 11:38 am

    Can we PLEASE stop with the Avengers spoilers! I haven’t seen it yet dammit!

  955. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 11:35 am
    ROLANDO MCCLAIN AS A SOCIAL WORKER IS BETTER THAN CHRISTIAN BALE ACTING,OR TRY’N TO ACT..

    —-

    1.5/10 for that ‘joke’.

  956. Raidernationdave Says:

    DMAC Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 11:40 am

    TGIF brother

    ==============

    I’m off at 5. Bong hits commencing shortly thereafter.

  957. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Raider O Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 11:36 am
    You must not like quality movies, acting, plot or storytelling either..
    $$$$$$$$$

    lol
    You must not like comic books and cartoons.

    —-

    LOL…Touche’

  958. RaiderTW Says:

    It’s hard to argue opinion but $300 million in 3 days puts Avengers on track to wipe Titanic and Avatar off the map!
    Avengers 2′ I’d like to see the Vision and Black Panther maybe Yellow Jacket.

  959. Method To My Madness Says:

    Vegas….u will need to revew this ass whippin by the A’s on the Giants this weekend at GayT&T park

  960. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    RaiderTW Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 11:45 am
    It’s hard to argue opinion but $300 million in 3 days puts Avengers on track to wipe Titanic and Avatar off the map!
    Avengers 2′ I’d like to see the Vision and Black Panther maybe Yellow Jacket.

    —-

    Avatar was crap too.

  961. GodsKilla27 Says:

    TGIMMF! HYFHR! YKWIM!

  962. hwnrdr Says:

    I think they were talking of putting Hank Pym and his “wife” in the next one! I think Jan was in Iron Man 2? I think…

  963. hwnrdr Says:

    959.Method To My Madness Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 11:46 am
    Vegas….u will need to revew this ass whippin by the A’s on the Giants this weekend at GayT&T park

    GayT&T…lol, good one!

  964. Method To My Madness Says:

    Bcz….I got a spolier for ya….this weekend Lakers get broomed the fk outta the playoffs

  965. hwnrdr Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 11:49 am
    Bcz….I got a spolier for ya….this weekend Lakers get broomed the fk outta the playoffs

    NOPE!

  966. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I am going to see Manny tomorrow at Isotopes Park, lol.

  967. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    I cant wait to take my Purple & Yellow colored broom to work!!

  968. Method To My Madness Says:

    Yeah I know vegas…that’s cool…don’t pass him no herbals

  969. Marks hair Says:

    Hulk gets stronger not bigger. The “mythos” didnt write hulk.. He’s never grown big in a comic book..

  970. Method To My Madness Says:

    Hwnrdr…you doin the Jessie Jackass Jackson= Keep Hope Alive

  971. hwnrdr Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
    Hwnrdr…you doin the Jessie Jackass Jackson= Keep Hope Alive

    That’s right! LOL

  972. Thec Says:

    HairyBush Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 11:33 am
    I’m hoping they do a Justice league movie. I loved all the classic villians. Sinestro, Grod the gorilla, Toy man, Sulamangrundy (Sp?), Capt freeze, Braniac, Black Manta, Cheeta, Luthor, Scarecrow.

    That would be sweet!

    +++++++

    Truth…

    The Legion of Doom would be top notch.

  973. Method To My Madness Says:

    Watch when Lakers lose….Kobe will grow so bald he will make Jhill look like he has an afro

  974. Thec Says:

    Jessie Jackass Jackson

    ++++++++++++

    hahahahahahahaha….Too many J’s….

  975. hwnrdr Says:

    B, not sure if I can make it next week! The A’s/Giants is in a couple weeks right? At home?
    Anyways, what time you all heading out to the lot?

  976. Thec Says:

    my No.1, she is a fakers fan…My hope is that they get blown out the rest of the way, and they run bynum outta towm for howard…

    Bynum > howard

  977. Thec Says:

    I’m hoping they do a Justice league movie. I loved all the classic villians. Sinestro, Grod the gorilla, Toy man, Sulamangrundy (Sp?), Capt freeze, Braniac, Black Manta, Cheeta, Luthor, Scarecrow, and Bizzaro

    +++++++++++

    Greatest assembly of villians since the ruling class families…

  978. Method To My Madness Says:

    We talking comic books? Fritz the Cat

  979. Thec Says:

    Time to check out….

    1 NATION

  980. Method To My Madness Says:

    Justice League? Oh hell yeah! They need to do that….just don’t cast garbage actors and actresses in it is all I ask

  981. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I got a spolier for ya….this weekend Lakers get broomed the fk outta the playoffs

    ***

    ROG = money!!

  982. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Thec Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
    my No.1, she is a fakers fan…My hope is that they get blown out the rest of the way, and they run bynum outta towm for howard…

    Bynum > howard

    —-

    Not sure you have your little arrow thing correct there buddy..

  983. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Im still waiting for them to make a Gambit movie..

    Gambit >

  984. Method To My Madness Says:

    For Yankees game? Gonna be difficult…mom flying in from Fla

  985. Sullivan44 Says:

    As much as I enjoyed the Lakers loosing the other night, I don’t know about OKC’s fans and the color coordinated t shirts. Looked like a Duke/UNC game in that crowd. Some things are for the young. Seriously. There has to be some separation between college and pro sports.

  986. Method To My Madness Says:

    Dwight Howard just like Lebron James are not basketball players…just athletes

  987. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Eric Bana
    Edward Norton
    Mark Ruffalo

    who was the Best “recent” Hulk ??

  988. Sullivan44 Says:

    As much as I want to see the Lakers loose, Lakers in 7. Let’s be honest.

  989. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Dwight Howard just like Lebron James are not basketball players…just athletes

    ***

    Ouch!

    hatin’ on James for Wade being a flaming pile of poo last night?

  990. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Dwight & Lebron together = Rings.

  991. bcz24 Says:

    964.Method To My Madness Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 11:49 am
    Bcz….I got a spolier for ya….this weekend Lakers get broomed the fk outta the playoffs
    *************
    I care as much about the Lakers as I do about what McClain is going to eat on his first day as a member of the Alabama Department of Corrections.

  992. Method To My Madness Says:

    MR….I agreennnnit looked lightweight lame….but crowds in LA are lamer

  993. hwnrdr Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
    Eric Bana
    Edward Norton
    Mark Ruffalo

    who was the Best “recent” Hulk ??

    Edward Norton, in my opinion…well, you mean the best Banner, right?

  994. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    Hey Brahs, Nerds, Zeros and GooberGays

    The LA King Penthouse Victory Jam is still going strong from last night, finishing up my final 69 session of the day with this MiLF from Irvine

    Gonna have to soak my tongue in a strawberry daiquiri until Sunday to loosen up the muscles

    Yo, that victory was HELLA SWEET, your boy Beeech Diggity gettin’ ready for the East Coast Showdown 4 Da Cup. Gonna bring the West/East coast border wars back strong, shout out to my boy Snoop

    First up on my hit list is Billy Joel, gonna destroy that fool in a classic diss rap. Gonna pay for recording We Didn’t Start the Fire

    STRAIGHT UP WRECKS N EFFECT

  995. Sullivan44 Says:

    Brien, I was thinking, at least Laker fans don’t do that color coordinate crap. When Laker fans outclass you…

    I just think NBA fans wearing the same color shirts look ridiculous. I don’t know why. They look like they’re going to rush a frat after the game. They’re 40.

  996. RaiderRockstar Says:

    @DAV

    has LeBron ever had a talented Center to work with?

    Ilgauskaus & Anthony don’t count. neither does a 45 year old Shaq with bad knees & back

  997. Dakota Says:

    Saw the Avengers this past Monday….I liked it. I thought RD jr. and Mark Girraffilo or whatever his name is carried it.

    Why does Samuel L. Jackson keep getting roles? smh

  998. hwnrdr Says:

    D wade was off the last two games, but LBJ still hasn’t taken over that series! In my opinion, that team goes as Wade goes!

  999. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I care as much about the Lakers as I do about what McClain is going to eat on his first day as a member of the Alabama Department of Corrections.

    ***

    LOL!!

    speaking of Ed Norton, somebody needs to make McClain “bite the curb” imo

  1000. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 12:25 pm
    @DAV

    has LeBron ever had a talented Center to work with?

    Ilgauskaus & Anthony don’t count. neither does a 45 year old Shaq with bad knees & back

    —-

    No sir, and Dwight has never had a guy who could slash & create his own shot.

    Sometimes I dont understand what players think, like if I was Lebron, why not sign in Orlando?..

  1001. hwnrdr Says:

    First up on my hit list is Billy Joel, gonna destroy that fool in a classic diss rap. Gonna pay for recording We Didn’t Start the Fire

    STRAIGHT UP WRECKS N EFFECT

    Now that was funnY!

  1002. hwnrdr Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
    I care as much about the Lakers as I do about what McClain is going to eat on his first day as a member of the Alabama Department of Corrections.

    ***

    LOL!!

    speaking of Ed Norton, somebody needs to make McClain “bite the curb” imo

    OUCH! Good movie, though!

  1003. Marks hair Says:

    The only thing worse than super grow hulk was spiderman dancing like john travolta & crying all the time..

  1004. bcz24 Says:

    997.Dakota Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
    Saw the Avengers this past Monday….I liked it. I thought RD jr. and Mark Girraffilo or whatever his name is carried it.

    Why does Samuel L. Jackson keep getting roles? smh
    ***************
    I have only seen the trailer, and in my honest opinion, Scarlett Johansens breasticles carry the movie.

  1005. Sullivan44 Says:

    Imagine an usher at Staples telling Jack Nicholson and that cool looking old dude always sitting next to him with the long gray hair and dark stunners to put on their gold t shirts. He’d get thrown out the door head first by their bodyguards.

  1006. bcz24 Says:

    speaking of Ed Norton, somebody needs to make McClain “bite the curb” imo
    *************
    Eeesh… and Debo calls ME a racist!

    For the record, it is an amusing comment.

  1007. RaiderRockstar Says:

    LBJ still hasn’t taken over that series!

    ***

    James can’t do it all. He carried Cleveland for years, but they played more team basketball and Brown is a better coach than Spoelstra.

    if Bosh is out, Wade needs to step it up. Can’t count on bigs like Turiaf, Haslem, Pittman & Anthony imo

    Wade is a fearless guard. He ain’t afraid to drive to the hoop. attack the rim and get fouled, like my boy Iverson used to! can’t have any more games as bad as last nite was

  1008. Dakota Says:

    1004.bcz24 Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
    997.Dakota Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
    Saw the Avengers this past Monday….I liked it. I thought RD jr. and Mark Girraffilo or whatever his name is carried it.

    Why does Samuel L. Jackson keep getting roles? smh
    ***************
    I have only seen the trailer, and in my honest opinion, Scarlett Johansens breasticles carry the movie.

    +++++++++++++++++

    Actually, her azz is more featured in the movie than the twins. And she had it looking good….unless it was a butt double….

  1009. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Scarlett Johansen = overrated

  1010. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
    Scarlett Johansen = overrated

    —-

    Thank you.

  1011. hwnrdr Says:

    Wade is a fearless guard. He ain’t afraid to drive to the hoop. attack the rim and get fouled, like my boy Iverson used to! can’t have any more games as bad as last nite was

    Agreed!

  1012. guest123 Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
    Scarlett Johansen = overrated

    **********

    No!!! Man!!

    love me some ScarJo

  1013. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    hwnrdr Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
    Wade is a fearless guard. He ain’t afraid to drive to the hoop. attack the rim and get fouled, like my boy Iverson used to! can’t have any more games as bad as last nite was

    Agreed!

    —-

    Wade has been getting carried by the refs for too long.

    His baby act is wearing thin.

  1014. bcz24 Says:

    Overrated???

    Overrated how? Are you saying she is ugly? You would kick her out of your bed? I mean come on. I’m not mentioning her acting skills, but she is a beautiful girl…

  1015. Dakota Says:

    1010.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
    RaiderRockstar Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
    Scarlett Johansen = overrated

    —-

    Thank you.

    +++++++++++

    Like either of you would kick her out of bed for eating cookies.

    Come on now.

  1016. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Debo calls ME a racist!

    ***

    @bcz

    I think you’re about as racist as OSU LB Tyler Moeller

  1017. RaiderRockstar Says:

    kick somebody out of bed?

    what?

    eating cookies?

    i’m confused.

    you dudes are kinky!!

  1018. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    bcz24 Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
    Overrated???

    Overrated how? Are you saying she is ugly? You would kick her out of your bed? I mean come on. I’m not mentioning her acting skills, but she is a beautiful girl…

    —-

    Compared to other women in the industry.

    Not saying she’s ugly, I wouldnt, yucky etc…

  1019. Marks hair Says:

    Samuel l jackson was the original insperation for the new black nick fury.. They stole his image in the 90s. Truth. The least they could do was let him play himself..

  1020. Dakota Says:

    The Heat have given up. They cancelled practice today. Next, they will send in their official forfeit form to David Stern.

    Maybe next year you puzzies! You need ANOTHER superstar to win a title? Kobe won 2 with one other dude who is about 3/4th a star, and you puzzies need Steve Nash to win a title now?

    Sad.

  1021. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    Once humped this wasted stripper who looked just like Scarlet Johansen but taller, prettier, bigger lips and with a much larger natural rack

    I let her service the Beeech Lawg, then we made a few shrimp Cup ‘o Noodles and played X Box

    Had to draw the line when she started begging to audition for Rasta Ganja. Typical starlet trying to move up the ladder too quick, word

  1022. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Compared to other women in the industry.

    Not saying she’s ugly

    ***

    exactly, DAV.

    slightly above average.

    perhaps she falls in the “good, but not great” category

  1023. Method To My Madness Says:

    Bcz lmao good one

  1024. Dakota Says:

    Heard Scarlett is going to buy the Raiders and move them to LA.

  1025. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I’ve dated at least 4 chicks hotter than Scarlett Johansen …

    in all fairness they didn’t double as actresses, though.

  1026. Dakota Says:

    1025.RaiderRockstar Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
    I’ve dated at least 4 chicks hotter than Scarlett Johansen …

    in all fairness they didn’t double as actresses, though.
    ++++++++++++++++

    LMAO

    Can you say BEER GOGGLES?

  1027. Method To My Madness Says:

    Beecher….no shoutout to your luxury box at staples for the lakers and clippers sweeps this weekend? Funky Fresh in the place to be buddy

  1028. RaiderRockstar Says:

    LOL @ Dakota

    I don’t drink, man.

    I’ve probably only been drunk less than 10 times in my life

  1029. Dakota Says:

    LA KINGS are about to explode onto the scene, the Lakers will always be contenders (unlike the Warriors), Dodgers doing well…..time to move the Raiders back to a city that will draw some quality young free agents.

  1030. Dakota Says:

    1028.RaiderRockstar Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
    LOL @ Dakota

    I don’t drink, man.

    I’ve probably only been drunk less than 10 times in my life

    +++++++++++++++

    Hey, some guys have that problem, I am not judging you for only taking 10 minutes total with 4 women!

  1031. R8ER MIKE Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
    LOL @ Dakota

    I don’t drink, man.

    I’ve probably only been drunk less than 10 times in my life

    *****************************************
    LOL LOL . i have been drunk 10 times in the last 20 days !!!!

  1032. guest123 Says:

    LA can have the Lambs back, leave the Raiders alone!

  1033. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I am not judging you for only taking 10 minutes total with 4 women!

    ***

    haha

    my wife knows if she wants to get something out of it, she better keep it coming on the regular!!

  1034. hwnrdr Says:

    guest123 Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
    LA can have the Lambs back, leave the Raiders alone!

    I thought I read somewhere that St Louis and the Rams just signed an agreement to upgrade their dome? I could be wrong…

  1035. Dakota Says:

    My bad Rockstar, 10 times, not 10 minutes!

  1036. RaiderRockstar Says:

    LA can have the Lambs back, leave the Raiders alone!

    ***

    I’m rooting for the Jags or Vikings to be relocated, if an NFL team ends up back in L.A.

  1037. Dakota Says:

    1033.RaiderRockstar Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
    I am not judging you for only taking 10 minutes total with 4 women!

    ***

    haha

    my wife knows if she wants to get something out of it, she better keep it coming on the regular!!
    ++++++++++

    Lol, I hear ya.

  1038. DutchRaider77 Says:

    Monte Poole rips on McClain…

    Through his first two seasons in Oakland, the middle linebacker – the team’s first-round pick in 2010, taken eighth overall – has shown a low aptitude for leadership and been mostly unproductive.

    He’s often out of position, usually invisible at key moments and generally unwilling to publicly hold himself accountable. He has exhibited many of the characteristics new Raiders management – general manager Reggie McKenzie and coach Dennis Allen – have made clear are unwelcome.

    Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/2012/05/18/4498961/monte-poole-rolando-mcclain-puts.html#storylink=cpy

  1039. r8eray Says:

    Guest123 Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
    RaiderRockstar Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
    Scarlett Johansen = overrated

    **********

    No!!! Man!!

    love me some ScarJo

    ========

    Here is someone not overrated if you ask me!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCUnWIs88CQ

  1040. Marks hair Says:

    Raiders might be better off in LA. Theres more money..

  1041. guest123 Says:

    I thought I read somewhere that St Louis and the Rams just signed an agreement to upgrade their dome? I could be wrong…

    ********

    No, they are at odds. Rams want the city to build them $700M in improvements and a retractable roof. City wants to invest $124M and have the Rams pay $64 of that. Rams can break the lease in 2015.

  1042. Dakota Says:

    LA RAAAAAAIDERS!
    LA LAAAAAAAKERS!
    LA KIIIIIIIINGS!

    Get back to the winning ways!

  1043. guest123 Says:

    I’m rooting for the Jags or Vikings to be relocated, if an NFL team ends up back in L.A.

    ******

    RRS,

    Vikes have already agreed to a stadium deal to stay. And the Jags owner just invested $160M to attract new business to Jacksonville.

  1044. guest123 Says:

    Raiders and Chargers are the teams that keep coming up as possible relocates to LA.

  1045. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Vikes have already agreed to a stadium deal to stay. And the Jags owner just invested $160M to attract new business to Jacksonville

    ***

    @G123

    doesn’t sound like there are many options for an NFL team in L.A. then!

    Mark Davis has uhhhhh… hired a GM to replace his dad?

  1046. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Chargers belong in L.A.

    pansies

  1047. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    Brian the Genital, when the Raiders move into their new home at Farmer’s Field, I will actually extend an invite to you and your grandpa KrappyRat for the home opener

    I’m not sure I can let you near my collection of Spearmint Rhino babes, but I will seat you near the PARTYDUDE 8000 Margarita Machine and let you share a commemorative Beeeech Diggity Party Mug

    Of course you’ll owe $39.95 for it when the game’s over and if I see KrappyRat’s hands in the nacho cheese I’ll sue you both for cause

  1048. Sullivan44 Says:

    Dakota’s fascination with LA has always amused me. I could just see him and his wife in their little camper with South Dakota plates, just putting down the 10 freeway at 40 mph, everyone passing them, yelling and flipping them off. “we’re here, babe! we’re in paradise!” Like the Beverly Hillbillies.

  1049. Sullivan44 Says:

    The Raiders left LA in ‘95 for a reason.

  1050. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Dakota’s fascination with LA has always amused me. I could just see him and his wife in their little camper with South Dakota plates, just putting down the 10 freeway at 40 mph, everyone passing them, yelling and flipping them off. “we’re here, babe! we’re in paradise!” Like the Beverly Hillbillies.

    ***

    LOL!

    Sully actually made a funny?

  1051. Sullivan44 Says:

    Same Beverly Hillbilly scenario with Rockstar and his family.

  1052. Marks hair Says:

    If we move to LA we’ll have a new stadium, new gm, new stratigies and more money.. We’ll get on t.v more too. It doesnt sound too bad.

  1053. Dakota Says:

    Camper?

    I wish….we just have an old truck with a topper and some sleeping bags!

  1054. Marks hair Says:

    1049. Things have changed

  1055. Dakota Says:

    http://www.sleddogcentral.com/features/trucks/Photos/desotelle.jpg

    LA here we come!

  1056. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Dallas Clark visited Patriots on Tuesday

  1057. Sullivan44 Says:

    I have an idea. Every team in the league should move to LA. Those that can’t get into LA, move to Chicago or New York. 12 or so teams in each of the 3 cities. Why not? I mean, it makes good business sense.

  1058. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Same Beverly Hillbilly scenario with Rockstar and his family

    ***

    I lived in Cali for 25 years, numbnuts

  1059. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Jets sign Yeremiah Bell to one-year, $1.4 million deal

  1060. Dakota Says:

    Sacramento can’t even come up with the $$ for a b-ball stadium and you guys think Oakland is going to build a football stadium, new arena for the Warriors and a new baseball field?

    LMAO

    They will leave the Raiders hanging without a stadium because Al Davis already screwed them over once.

  1061. Sullivan44 Says:

    Imagine if every owner in the league decided they wanted to move to LA. Who gets dibs? Why would the Raiders be in the front running? Because they already played in LA, and screwed over LA’s city council and tax payers time and time again over 15 years? Sure…

  1062. Sullivan44 Says:

    Yeah, Rockstar, your personality just says “cali”, all the way.

  1063. RaiderRockstar Says:

    They will leave the Raiders hanging without a stadium because Al Davis already screwed them over once.

    ***

    @Dakota

    BREAKING NEWS!

    Al Davis is dead

  1064. Sullivan44 Says:

    Every team in the league should move to LA. Why not? I mean look what you have. You have a huge t.v. market. The ability to attract free agents would be endless. I mean, you have Hollywood right down the freeway. The endorsements, just huge. It makes perfect business sense, in every capacity. So I would recommend that all 32 NFL teams move to LA. They could all benefit.

  1065. Dakota Says:

    1063.RaiderRockstar Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
    They will leave the Raiders hanging without a stadium because Al Davis already screwed them over once.

    ***

    @Dakota

    BREAKING NEWS!

    Al Davis is dead

    +++++++++++++++

    People have long memories, and Oakland won’t lift a finger for the team that ditched them years ago….especially when the product they returned with was crap.

  1066. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Yeah, Rockstar, your personality just says “cali”, all the way

    ***

    @Sully

    each state has one set personality?

    who knew??

    and how does that explain you, with multiple personalities?

  1067. r8eray Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
    Dakota’s fascination with LA has always amused me. I could just see him and his wife in their little camper with South Dakota plates, just putting down the 10 freeway at 40 mph, everyone passing them, yelling and flipping them off. “we’re here, babe! we’re in paradise!” Like the Beverly Hillbillies.

    ***

    LOL!

    Sully actually made a funny?

    Sullivan44 Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
    Same Beverly Hillbilly scenario with Rockstar and his family.

    =========

    LMFAO!!!

  1068. Sullivan44 Says:

    Imagine if all 32 teams really did move to LA.

    Patriots would be in Beverly Hills.

    Giants in Bel Air.

    Packers in Pacific Palisades.

    Lions? Inglewood.

    Raiders? Comp TON!! Of course 2 games a year in East Los.

    49ers? West Hollywood.

  1069. RaiderDuck Says:

    Dakota Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 1:23 pm

    People have long memories, and Oakland won’t lift a finger for the team that ditched them years ago….especially when the product they returned with was crap.

    ==========================================

    If Oakland won’t get a stadium built, then the Raiders will leave, either for another spot in the bay area or LA.

  1070. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Oakland won’t lift a finger for the team that ditched them years ago….especially when the product they returned with was crap.

    ***

    @Dakota

    they’d probably try to sneak some “only if you re-hire Jon Gruden” lingo in the contract

  1071. Sullivan44 Says:

    Rockstar,

    Cali has several personalities. You exemplify none of them. Unless you’re talking about deep in the mountains near the Oregon border. I suppose you could fit in up there.

  1072. R8ER MIKE Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
    Yeah, Rockstar, your personality just says “cali”, all the way

    ***

    @Sully

    each state has one set personality?

    who knew??

    and how does that explain you, with multiple personalities?

    ***************************
    LMFAO !!!!
    post of the day !!!!!!

  1073. bcz24 Says:

    @bcz

    I think you’re about as racist as OSU LB Tyler Moeller
    *********
    I don’t know who that is…

  1074. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Cali has several personalities

    ***

    @Sully

    list them…

  1075. Sullivan44 Says:

    Seriously, guys. Why shouldn’t every owner in the league try to move to LA, if it’s as great as you guys say it is from a business standpoint?

  1076. Nnamdi21 Says:

    1065. lmao!

    “Davis is dead” Tell that to Monte Poole and Tim “Asian Judas” Kawakami. They still can’t help raking him over the coals!

    Kawakami’s Ghost Pryor article as an example. Emphasis on no QB coach to help Pryor last year. He did mention Pryor was a supplemental suspended for 5 games right? But fact is Pryor can’t have been surprised at how little help he got once he FINALLY came on board.

    We lost Jason Campbell soon after remember and then had to tailor a game toward Palmer all while dealing with a decimated WR corps.

    Sorry if no one could hold his hand. Welcome to the NFL. Our owner died and our ROOKIE Head Coach was in over his head. Then their was McClain…

    Anyway, Pryor’s hard work and dedication will hopefully pay off but he needs to STOP seeing himself as victim and be damn glad ANYONE chose him to be one of about 1,800 a year who ever get the chance.

  1077. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I don’t know who that is…

    ***

    @bcz

    well, if you don’t care to google him, let’s just say I don’t think you’re racist. closer to be the victim of racism

  1078. RaiderRockstar Says:

    @N21

    Tim Kawakami = Asian Judas?

    LOL!!

  1079. Sullivan44 Says:

    Well, Rockstar,

    you have your bay area personality. liberal, elitist in the sense that they know they’re better than rednecks, have a compassion for the streets, mistrust of law enforcement. Not you.

    You have your LA personality. Looking cool, acting cool. NOT you.

    Then you have your mountain Sierra grizzled loner personality. Now this is certainly your fit.

  1080. Nnamdi21 Says:

    1078. His words. Not mine. Swear…

  1081. Nnamdi21 Says:

    1079. U forgot the plastics and the beautiful people, the beautiful people

  1082. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    Yo, gettin’ my diss raps ready to renew the West/East Coast Border Wars when the Kings go for the Cup

    This is called “Billy Joel, Come Lick My Nads” and should get P Diddy all hella pissed

    Billy Joel, your career blows, egads
    So come to LA so you can lick my nads
    I’m dissin’ NY, naw, I ain’t no liar
    Stop cryin’ sweetheart, cause you didn’t start the fire

    AWWW YEAH TAKIN’ DOWN WALLS STREET ONE STOCK AT A TIME

  1083. RaiderRockstar Says:

    “Cali has several personalities, like me” – RMR

  1084. Sullivan44 Says:

    Nnamdi, it’s a general list. Just summarizing. I don’t think Rockstar would enjoy the more sophisticated regions of California. I see him as the type who would live in one of those shacks you see deep in the woods on the way to Kirkwood ski resort.

  1085. Sullivan44 Says:

    Rockstar would fit in just fine in Podunk, Ca. lol.

  1086. Raidernationdave Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 1:34 pm

    Well, Rockstar,

    you have your bay area personality. liberal, elitist in the sense that they know they’re better than rednecks, have a compassion for the streets, mistrust of law enforcement. Not you.

    You have your LA personality. Looking cool, acting cool. NOT you.

    Then you have your mountain Sierra grizzled loner personality. Now this is certainly your fit.
    +++++++++++++++++
    The favorite cologne of these folks is “poop” by Giorgio.

  1087. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I don’t think Rockstar would enjoy the more sophisticated regions of California.

    ***

    @Sully

    such as??

  1088. RaiderRockstar Says:

    RMR,

    I wouldn’t hang out with a much of homo or metrosexuals, like you & your friends, if thats what you’re asking …

  1089. DJ Johnny Says:

    1078.RaiderRockstar Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
    @N21

    Tim Kawakami = Asian Judas?

    LOL!!

    To be a “Judas” implies that he was once on the Raiders side and then turned traitor.

    I think he’s always been an “enemy of the state”.

  1090. RaiderRockstar Says:

    bunch*

  1091. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I would love to hear of RMR “sophistication”.

    Being able to use big words on a blog doesn’t count.

  1092. R8ER MIKE Says:

    LOL LOL RRS..
    i am a redneck and to me sophistication= indoor plumbing!!

  1093. DJ Johnny Says:

    1021.The Beeech Dawg Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
    Once humped this wasted stripper who looked just like Scarlet Johansen but taller, prettier, bigger lips and with a much larger natural rack

    I let her service the Beeech Lawg, then we made a few shrimp Cup ‘o Noodles and played X Box

    Had to draw the line when she started begging to audition for Rasta Ganja. Typical starlet trying to move up the ladder too quick, word

    Yeah. You gotta keep those high tone wenches in their place.

    Next thing you know they’ll be expecting you to call them or something outrageous.

  1094. Breaking_Black Says:

    http://youtube.com/watch?gl=US&hl=en&client=mv-google&v=vFyFCuBgRTA

    Someone let me know if this link works. Its a corny video bringing Farmers Field to life. Pretty effin sweet bro.

  1095. Just Fire Baby Says:

    LOL…..crazy azz SMIB’s

  1096. R8ER MIKE Says:

    yes i am JFB !!!

  1097. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    Yo DJ whens your next radio show?

    Gotta throw a shout out at 2K4S, we’re going to break all boy band boundaries and enter into a renewed Border War with the East Coast when the Kings go for the Cup

    No doubt Bummer Summer and Cafeteria Crush will diss P Diddity and Woody Allen so hard they’ll surrender live to us on David Letterman

    And if the lyrical missles don’t destroy NY, we’ll simply out fashion them in an epic Pube Style Off

  1098. RaiderRockstar Says:

    as we type, RMR is frantically scouring the web searching for “the more sophisticated regions of California”

  1099. RaiderRockstar Says:

    i am a redneck and to me sophistication= indoor plumbing!!

    ***

    @Mike

    for McClain?

    sophistication = 3 hots and a cot

  1100. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    My Updated 53 man roster:

    QB – Carson Palmer
    - Matt Leinart
    - Terrelle Pryor
    RB – Darren McFadden
    - Mike Goodson
    - Taiwan Jones
    FB – Marcel Reece
    - Owen Schmitt
    WR – Denarius Moore
    WR – Darrius Heyward-Bey
    - Jacoby Ford
    - Louis Murphy
    - Juron Criner
    - Duke Calhoun
    TE – Brandon Meyers
    - David Ausberry
    - Richard Gordon
    -
    LT – Jared Veldheer
    LG – Tony Bergstrom
    C – Stephen Wisniewski
    RG – Mike Brisiel
    RT – Khalif Barnes
    - Joseph Barksdale
    - Cooper Carlisle
    - Alex Parsons
    - Lucas Nix
    DE – Matt Shaughnessy
    DT – Richard Seymour
    DT/NT – Tommy Kelly
    DE – Lamar Houston
    - Desmond Bryant
    - Dave Tollefson
    - Jack Crawford
    - Christo Bilukidi
    - Kaelin Burnett
    OLB – Phillip Wheeler
    MLB – Rolondo McClain
    OLB – Aaron Curry
    - Miles Burris
    - Nathan Stupar
    - Travis Goethel
    CB – Ron Bartell
    CB – Shawntae Spencer
    FS – Michael Huff
    SS – Tyvon Branch
    - Demarcus Van Dyke
    - Chimdi Chekwa
    - Mike Mitchell
    - Pat Lee
    - Aaron Henry
    P – Shane Lechler
    K – Sebastian Janikowski
    LS – Jon Condo

  1101. Plunketthead Says:

    If any team goes to LA it should be the Rams.
    Bring back those blue & white unis and the fearsome foursome

    Interesting link I found

    4. Los Angeles is a Raiders town, they would be a better fit in L.A.

    This could not be a bigger lie. During their short stint in Los Angeles, the Raiders were the distant second team to the Rams. Even after winning the Super Bowl in the City of Angels, the Raiders could not draw well because no one was going to abandon their Rams and join up with the infamous “Raider Nation.” The Raiders would often average crowds in the low 40,000s only reaching the 80,000/90,000 mark when teams like the 49ers, Chargers, and Rams came to the Coliseum. During those games, at least half of the fans were cheering for the “visiting” team. The NFL tried to stop the Raiders from moving, but it is nearly impossible to stop Al Davis. The silver and black never belonged in Los Angeles and the fans here do not want that team to bring its owner and all of its problems to Southern California. Also, the Raiders DO NOT still own the Los Angeles market no matter what Al Davis tries to say.

    http://losangelesrams.org/myths.html

    Keep the Raiders in Oakland

  1102. RaiderRockstar Says:

    nice work, DAV

    still too early to call imo

  1103. Plunketthead Says:

    RMR = gay? Who knew?

    What do you call a man who has never slept with a women but has lost his butt cherry a couple hundred times?

  1104. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
    nice work, DAV

    still too early to call imo

    —-

    Ya, there will be some changes with camp battles and what not..

  1105. RaiderDuck Says:

    My 53 man roster (differences from DAV’s in caps):

    QB – Carson Palmer
    - Matt Leinart
    - Terrelle Pryor
    RB – Darren McFadden
    - Mike Goodson
    - Taiwan Jones
    FB – Marcel Reece
    - Owen Schmitt
    WR – Denarius Moore
    WR – Darrius Heyward-Bey
    - Jacoby Ford
    - EDDIE MCGEE
    - Juron Criner
    - Duke Calhoun
    TE – Brandon Meyers
    - David Ausberry
    - Richard Gordon
    LT – Jared Veldheer
    LG – Tony Bergstrom
    C – Stephen Wisniewski
    RG – Mike Brisiel
    RT – JOSEPH BARKSDALE
    - KHALIF BARNES
    - Cooper Carlisle
    - COLIN MILLER
    - Lucas Nix
    DE – Matt Shaughnessy
    DT – Richard Seymour
    DT/NT – Tommy Kelly
    DE – Lamar Houston
    - Desmond Bryant
    - Dave Tollefson
    - Jack Crawford
    - Christo Bilukidi
    - TRAVIS IVEY
    OLB – Phillip Wheeler
    MLB – AARON CURRY
    OLB – MILES BURRIS
    - Nathan Stupar
    - Travis Goethel
    - KAELIN BURNETT
    CB – Ron Bartell
    CB – CHIMDI CHEKWA
    FS – Michael Huff
    SS – Tyvon Branch
    - SHAWNTAE SPENCER
    - Demarcus Van Dyke
    - Mike Mitchell
    - Pat Lee
    - Aaron Henry
    P – Shane Lechler
    K – Sebastian Janikowski
    LS – Jon Condo

  1106. RaiderDuck Says:

    On mine, I’m assuming McClain will be suspended by season’s start.

    I’m also projecting McGee being kept over an underwhelming Murphy.

  1107. RaiderRockstar Says:

    both of you guys have us keeping WR Duke Calhoun and all 3 project TE’s, huh?

    interesting!

  1108. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Nice, RaiderDuck.

    I struggled with Ivey. I see him working his way on.

  1109. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
    both of you guys have us keeping WR Duke Calhoun and all 3 project TE’s, huh?

    interesting!

    —-

    Well Meyers isnt a project, Gordon is what he is. Ausberry is the wild card, if he plays as good as Palmer and company have said he’s been practicing..

  1110. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Lucas Nix
    Pat Lee
    Aaron Henry
    Owen Schmitt

    both of you guys also have these dudes as MAKERS, eh?

    cool..

  1111. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Calhoun is an intriguing WR. Tall, lanky, plays ST.

    I want to put McGee & Ivey on mine, gotta figure out who they replace.

  1112. Raidernationdave Says:

    Sounds like sour fk’ing grapes if you ask me.

    ___________________

    Plunketthead Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 2:19 pm

    If any team goes to LA it should be the Rams.
    Bring back those blue & white unis and the fearsome foursome

    Interesting link I found

    4. Los Angeles is a Raiders town, they would be a better fit in L.A.

    This could not be a bigger lie. During their short stint in Los Angeles, the Raiders were the distant second team to the Rams. Even after winning the Super Bowl in the City of Angels, the Raiders could not draw well because no one was going to abandon their Rams and join up with the infamous “Raider Nation.” The Raiders would often average crowds in the low 40,000s only reaching the 80,000/90,000 mark when teams like the 49ers, Chargers, and Rams came to the Coliseum. During those games, at least half of the fans were cheering for the “visiting” team. The NFL tried to stop the Raiders from moving, but it is nearly impossible to stop Al Davis. The silver and black never belonged in Los Angeles and the fans here do not want that team to bring its owner and all of its problems to Southern California. Also, the Raiders DO NOT still own the Los Angeles market no matter what Al Davis tries to say.

    http://losangelesrams.org/myths.html

    Keep the Raiders in Oakland

  1113. Hot Shot Says:

    I dont know but Palmer says that Rod Streater is impressive so he might have a shot of making the team.

  1114. Raidernationdave Says:

    So why did Georgia bolt for St. Louie? Must’a been tough for a “sell out” to walk-a-way from all those “sell outs” at the baseball formerly known as Angels Stadium.

  1115. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 2:40 pm
    Lucas Nix
    Pat Lee
    Aaron Henry
    Owen Schmitt

    both of you guys also have these dudes as MAKERS, eh?

    cool..

    —-

    Nix plays G/C
    Lee is a solid ST/Backup
    Henry should open some eyes
    Schmitt will fill the role they had Gordon in, lets Gordon polish his TE skills.

    IMO of course..

    I could see Underwood taking Lee’s spot tho too..

  1116. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Hot Shot Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
    I dont know but Palmer says that Rod Streater is impressive so he might have a shot of making the team.

    —-

    True, I just think he’s behind Calhoun & McGee

  1117. Hot Shot Says:

    If you watch Rod Streaters Highlights he catches good and makes Catches like Criner and Moore.

  1118. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Hot Shot Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
    If you watch Rod Streaters Highlights he catches good and makes Catches like Criner and Moore.

    —-

    That’s the thing, he’s like them.

    Calhoun & McGee bring something we dont have to the WR core..

    I have Streater on the PS.

  1119. Hot Shot Says:

    also the DBs on here im not sold on.If we lose I think thats the down fall.Hopefully im wrong but time will tell.

  1120. Sullivan44 Says:

    Sophisticated parts of California:

    Bay area, LA, inner Sacramento (not the outskirts), etc., you know, areas where RRS, Plunkethead and Just Fire Baby are intellectually overwhelmed by people who are capable of reading more than the sports page, the funnies, Guns&Ammo, and dumbed down versions of the bible that come with crayons.

  1121. RaiderDuck Says:

    Of course, that Rams booster never stops to think that part of the reason we never drew terribly well in LA was that the Coliseum was a complete dump, in a lousy part of town. That won’t be a problem with either Farmer’s Field or COI.

  1122. RaiderDuck Says:

    Streater, Dorsey and Efaw are all PS candidates.

  1123. RaiderRockstar Says:

    @Sully

    I thought it was just Dakota & I?

    now you lumped Plunk & JFB in there too?

    LOL – based on what?

    pretty soon everybody who disagrees with you will be a redneck!

  1124. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Streater, Dorsey and Efaw are all PS candidates

    ***

    I agree with this, Duck

  1125. Hot Shot Says:

    They will Probably pick WRs that palmer likes to throw to and are comfortable with.

  1126. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I think G123, Raccoon & HairyBush are closer to being “redneck” than Vegas/ABQ..

    Mike even admitted to being one. Raider O has Kentucky roots. still think it’s funny he refers to Dakota as “White Devil” though

    haha

    you guys be cool. have a great weekend

    Go Heat!!

    Go OKC !!

  1127. Sullivan44 Says:

    RRS, there are a lot unsophisticated rednecks in here. You said it, not me.

  1128. Sullivan44 Says:

    Vegas is from Tracy, Ca, a tiny cow town full of rednecks, and he basically hates everything and everyone except for white, christian males. I don’t know what would differentiate him from a redneck, but whatever. He can call himself whatever he wants.

  1129. Marks hair Says:

    Sophisticated regions lol..

  1130. Hot Shot Says:

    Sully you are the biggest racist on here.your ignorant.

  1131. Dakota Says:

    MaddenRaider,

    Did you read the copy of Sophistication for Idiots your mom had boxed up in her basement where you live when your dial-up internet was down or something? Is that why you are acting so uppity today?

    Or are you just off your meds again?

  1132. Sullivan44 Says:

    Is it all too advanced for you guys to understand that the bay area and LA are sophisticated, while trailer parks around Tulare county are not? Is it that you’re in denial?

  1133. Sullivan44 Says:

    What word would you guys like me to replace sophisticated with?

    Educated?

    Civilized?

    Bathed?

    Just give me the word, I’ll use it. If “sophisticated” really rattles your nerves that much. I think you guys know what I’m talking about. This is a game of wordplay. If you want me to call people from Rockstar’s neck of the woods unbathed slobs, I can. I figured unsophisticated would just be nicer. But have it your way.

  1134. papertiger418 Says:

    Avengers > Dark Knight Rises

  1135. Sullivan44 Says:

    Hot Shot,

    Racist? I suppose according to some muddled right wing definition of the word, sure, I can be considered reverse racist, or whatever. But since I’m white, I guess it would be double reverse reverse racism? Whatever. But I’m no white supremacist. That I can confidently say. Rockstar is.

  1136. Raidernationdave Says:

    I for one would love to see Oakland get a new stadium in Oakland. I like going there foe games a whole lot more than I did the Coliseum.

    The fact remains that Oakland is run by a total bunch of douche bags that wouldn’t know a good deal if it walked up to them and punched them in the face.

    That said the new LA stadium wouldn’t be the Coliseum and they are ready to build.

  1137. Dakota Says:

    MaddenRaider’s idea of sophistication is the leopard print throw he has on the cement floor of his mom’s basement, and the boring screenwriting facts he throws around at his job slinging fries at Carl’s, Jr.

  1138. Hot Shot Says:

    Post 1137 thats funny!!

  1139. Raider O Says:

    I didn’t know they had PREPPIES in Sacramento.

  1140. Nnamdi21 Says:

    RMR baiting himself again.

    Yawn…song remains the same

    So…

    As always, two seperate faction to the nation. This time the “keep” McClain vs the “ditch” McClain constitchee-ints

    He’ll probably stay but pretty short leash one would imagine. Eddie Anderson’s his new roomie.

  1141. Sullivan44 Says:

    Dakota, your idea of sophistication is shaving your favorite sheep down with a 2 clipper instead of a 3.

  1142. Hot Shot Says:

    We will just call him basement boy from now on.!!!LOL

  1143. Raider O Says:

    I didn’t know lusting after cousins and aunts counts as Sophistication.

  1144. Nnamdi21 Says:

    1137. You shouldn’t insult the fryolator operator at Carl’s Junior’s. That guys the next El Spielbergo!

  1145. Sullivan44 Says:

    Raider O,

    Inner Sacramento is like the bay area and LA. Civilized, educated, sensible, sophisticated (dreaded word, oh well). Outer Sacramento is kind of like Podunk. Uneducated. Dirty. Hateful. Spiteful. Racist.

  1146. Nnamdi21 Says:

    1141. Disturbing familiarity with clippers…

  1147. Raider O Says:

    RR,

    Btw, I have White relatives from Tenn. I never called them White Devils. Dakota is special.

  1148. Sullivan44 Says:

    Yeah, Nnamdi, I gave myself up with my knowledge of clippers. I’ve been to a barber shop…

  1149. Hot Shot Says:

    Uneducated. Dirty. Hateful. Spiteful. Racist.So Thats you.you described yourself good there.

  1150. Dakota Says:

    MaddenRaider thinks fantasizing about his cousin isn’t abnormal, it is just sophisticated and the rest of us just wouldn’t understand!

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    June 1st, 2010 at 11:57 am

    Save it. Mark it. I’ve got a few fine cousins, only my generation or older, though. If they would, I would. Hell yes. Sorry. My junk has a mind of its own.

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    June 1st, 2010 at 12:06 pm

    What hole am I in? Is there something wrong with wanting to do your cousins? Is that taboo? If so, Sorry. Don’t know what to say. I have two cousins, both older, I would do in a heartbeat. Wanted to do them since I was a teenager. You guys can bring it up every day.

  1151. papertiger418 Says:

    Sacramento is the kind of town where fans use COWBELLS to show support. Cosmpodunkan.

  1152. Sullivan44 Says:

    Hot shot, you can twist the definition of racism all you want to. You know what I’m talking about.

  1153. papertiger418 Says:

    Also, driving on the 80 outside of Sac-Town, I saw a billboard that sternly reminded people: DON’T SHAKE YOUR BABY!! Apparently that’s a real big problem there.

  1154. Sullivan44 Says:

    Wow. Dakota saved the link to a page where someone was posting under my name. Really puts this argument to rest…

  1155. Sullivan44 Says:

    tiger,

    the cowbell thing is a joke. It’s a play on what people think of Sacramento. The real cowbell folks on the outskirts of Sacramento don’t even watch basketball. It’s too advanced for them.

  1156. Raider O Says:

    RMR,

    I thought sophistication comes from good background, education, culture, but I don’t think it has anything to do with location.

  1157. Sullivan44 Says:

    tiger,

    you said it. In I-80, outside of Sac Town. Didn’t I say from the first post that outer Sacramento is different than inner Sacramento? Orangevale and Rosevill are just as redneck ass backward as podunk.

  1158. Hot Shot Says:

    What im talking about is just because your white dose not mean your a racist.Same with black mexican japs and ETC.There is crap in all Race and see it everyday.

  1159. Dakota Says:

    I gotta run.

    MR, take your meds please, you are getting delusional again. And for god’s sake, do some dishes and take out the garbage for your mom! It is the least you can do! When you wrote your mom the letter asking if you could come home for just a little while until you got back on your feet, she certainly didn’t think it would take this long…..the letter was dated February 17, 1987!

  1160. Sullivan44 Says:

    O,

    people who are sophisticated tend to live around sophisticated people. That’s why sophisticated people live in places like LA and the bay area, and why people like RRS live in the swampland he lives in.

  1161. Silverandblack666 Says:

    There is nothing sophisticated about California anymore. This place where I have lived all of my life has turned into a bankrupt filthy dump.

    What used to be a great place to live is now overrun by illegals and that has drained our resource and turned San Jose into a dump. The streets where I live have broken appliances and worn out furniture on the sidewalks, the parking lot of the 7-11 by my house looks like a garbage dump with all the trash in the street.

    This was not the case 20 years ago and its sad that San Jose now feels and looks like Tijuana.

  1162. Marks hair Says:

    Ive spent time in La sac & the bey. Idiots live everywhere..

  1163. Raider O Says:

    ROFLMAO “White Devil”.
    That’s why you don’t mess with the White Devil. He has posts saved on everyone.

  1164. Sullivan44 Says:

    Dakota, all of this talk about moms and sex is not helping your cause.

  1165. Sullivan44 Says:

    666,

    I seem to remember Mexicans being in San Jose since, I dunno, FOREVER?

  1166. RaiderDuck Says:

    Why exactly are we dragging up necroposts from two years ago?

  1167. Sullivan44 Says:

    Cesar Chavez was from San Jose, the neighborhood is called Sal Se Puedes, based on United Farm Workers’ slogan. Yeah, sounds like those Mexicans just showed up in San Jose out of nowhere, 666.

  1168. Sullivan44 Says:

    Showing NASCAR thug behavior on ESPN.

  1169. Silverandblack666 Says:

    If you cant see the effect of the last 10 years of millions of illegals coming to California then you are beyond help.

  1170. Raider O Says:

    I agree MH.

  1171. Silverandblack666 Says:

    I was born and lived in San Jose my whole life I know what it was and what it is now.

    You on the other hand are the biggest idiot on the planet, hand down.

  1172. Raider O Says:

    666,

    I didn’t know illegals qualified for government assistance.

  1173. Sullivan44 Says:

    666,

    It’s common knowledge the South Bay, i.e., San Jose, Morgan Hill, Gilroy, etc has been N. California’s “Little Mexico” for over a half century, probably longer, possibly going back to the Mexican-American war. There has always been a huge Mexican population there. If you can’t see that, you’re beyond help. Who the hell lives in San Jose, CA while having a problem with Mexicans? lol.

  1174. Sullivan44 Says:

    “I hate Mexicans, I think I’ll move to San Jose” – 666.

    Talk about retarded.

  1175. anallpro24 Says:

    I hate Mexicans, I think I’ll move to San Jose” – 666.

    Talk about retarded.

  1176. Nnamdi21 Says:

    1172. 2/3rds of all illegals pay more taxes than General Electric

  1177. Raider O Says:

    Those illegals, they come here and they do jobs that most Americans don’t want to work, they are hard workers, but they are draining our resources?!

  1178. Sullivan44 Says:

    I have no problem with someone coming to this country to work. Mexicans emigrating to the US should be allowed to claim political asylum with the chaos in that country, between the corrupted govt. and the cartels. Of course the US is careful to pretend everything is hunky dory in Mexico to prevent Mexican immigrants from claiming political asylum. They have no choice but to cross illegally. Morality trumps law, in my view. Throw me in prison, I don’t care. I support undocumented Mexican immigrants.

  1179. Raider O Says:

    Morality trumps law,
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$

    RMR = David Henry Thoreau?

  1180. Hot Shot Says:

    The ones that piss me off is the ones who come here and litter and make dope and throw that Garbage in our oceans lakes and streams.

  1181. Silverandblack666 Says:

    You don’t live here so how can you make any assumptions on this area. That has to be the single most ignorant thing I have ever read.

    You do know that over the last 10-20 years millions of illegals have came to the US.

    You must have heard this on some news outlet somewhere unless you live under a rock.

  1182. Sullivan44 Says:

    Yeah, Hot Shot, America was drug free until Mexicans got here…

  1183. Sullivan44 Says:

    666,

    Anyone who hates Mexicans and lives in San Jose is retarded. End of story.

  1184. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Those jobs existed before we had illegals here you do realize that don’t you?

    Or did these jobs just somehow suddenly appear one day?

    I never said anything about hating or disliking any group of people I was just pointing out the facts, sorry that is so hard for you to comprehend I know that facts are difficult for people like yourself to process.

  1185. Raider O Says:

    May 18th, 2012 at 3:54 pm
    666,

    Anyone who hates Mexicans and lives in The South West is retarded. End of story.

    Better.

  1186. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Sandusky44

    You are a misguided delusional individual.

    You have absolutely no intellect at all.

    I was not talking to you so why are you talking to me?

  1187. KoolKell Says:

    More than half of all babies born last year were members of minority groups, the first time in U.S. history. It’s a sign of how swiftly the USA is becoming a nation of younger minorities and older whites.

    Hispanics, blacks, Asians and other minorities in 2011 accounted for 50.4% of births, 49.7% of all children under 5 and slightly more than half of the 4 million kids under 1, the Census Bureau reports today.

    The nation’s growing diversity has huge implications for education, economics and politics. “Children are in the vanguard of this transition,” says Kenneth Johnson, a demographer at the University of New Hampshire’s Carsey Institute.
    ——————————————-
    Read’em and weep, you true, red-blooded Americans.

  1188. Hot Shot Says:

    Did not say that Sully.Im talking about the litter.I went fishing and seen them dumping trash in the river and Seen it more than once.They also make dope and dump left over pill bottles and chemicals too.

  1189. Sullivan44 Says:

    666,

    You also realize there is no way of knowing how many illegal immigrants there are in the US, don’t you? Anyone insisting on a given number is talking out of their ass. Bottom line is, if you don’t like Mexicans, stay away from LA, the south bay area, Most of the central valley along hwy.99, most of the central coast, basically most of California, Arizona, N.M., Texas, because you know, those regions were once part of Mexico, and there’s a ton of Mexicans there. You’d have to be a retard to live in these places while not liking Mexicans. A flat out retard. Move if you don’t like it. And San Jose’s not getting any cheaper. You’re choosing to pay a higher cost of living just to be around people you don’t like. No wonder you’re miserable.

  1190. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Putting words in peoples mouths is even more retarded it shows your lack of intellect and ability to converse in a peaceful manner.

    Name calling usually happens when you have lost the intellectual part of the argument. Which in this case you have.

  1191. Seymour Bush Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 3:50 pm

    I have no problem with someone coming to this country to work.
    ===============================================

    The problem with mass immigration is it forces the price of labour down. And it forces the price of everything else, like rent, food, gasoline, power, up. When wages go down, and prices go up, standards of living go off the cliff. Welcome to America, 1985-present.

  1192. papertiger418 Says:

    Hey! Can we start talking about how awesome the Avengers is again? I missed the original discussion.

  1193. Silverandblack666 Says:

    No one said I don’t like Mexicans those are your words.

    AGAIN….putting words into peoples mouths is a sign of your ineptness.

    I said I did not like the trash in my streets. Period!

  1194. Raider O Says:

    Those jobs existed before we had illegals here you do realize that don’t you?
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$
    Other jobs also existed like textile work, more farming jobs, etc.., but things change.

    Or did these jobs just somehow suddenly appear one day?
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
    Jobs are lost and created Based on demand and culture.

  1195. The Realist Dirty Raccoon Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
    I have no problem with someone coming to this country to work. Mexicans emigrating to the US should be allowed to claim political asylum with the chaos in that country, between the corrupted govt. and the cartels. Of course the US is careful to pretend everything is hunky dory in Mexico to prevent Mexican immigrants from claiming political asylum. They have no choice but to cross illegally. Morality trumps law, in my view. Throw me in prison, I don’t care. I support undocumented Mexican immigrants.

    ::::::::::

    Me thinks you don’t support undocumented Mexican immigrants, I think you purposefully take the side of the issue that is most controversial to create as much drama and entertainment for yourself as possible. I knew a girl , Waterberry was her last name, that was that way in highschool.

    Not all that uncommon, it really shows who is well educated, and those whom are merely well Seminared.

  1196. Sullivan44 Says:

    Seymour,

    Mexican immigrants don’t have the luxury to weight out all of those economic figures. They have no choice. They’re dead in Mexico. They don’t have the money or resources for revolution, partly thanks to wealthy countries like us gutting them through programs like NAFTA. They’re broke, powerless, and just waiting to be killed by cartels. And there is no work. They have no choice but to come here. You can break down the negative economic effect all you want to. They’re coming, and they’ll risk death doing it, because they’re dead if they stay anyway. It’s a real world out there.

  1197. Raider O Says:

    The problem with mass immigration is it forces the price of labour down. And it forces the price of everything else, like rent, food, gasoline, power, up. When wages go down, and prices go up, standards of living go off the cliff. Welcome to America, 1985-present.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    That’s not completely true.
    The old theory is more people = more demand (increas prices) = more people competing for the SAME jobs = less wages.
    What is true? More people = more demand for products and services = more jobs = more products and services produced = better incomes!

  1198. Seymour Bush Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 4:04 pm

    Seymour,

    Mexican immigrants don’t have the luxury to weight out all of those economic figures. They have no choice.
    ===================================

    You can say that about any country on earth. Look at the Greeks right now. They don’t want austerity measures. They want the Germans to go fukk themselves. Should the Greeks come here lounge around and drink ouzo? Should Serbian females be allowed to come here because their country is effed? How about El Salvador? My point is if everyone comes here, it will just gut this society, which is already happening at an alarming rate.

  1199. papertiger418 Says:

    And so, like the tides, does the blog shift into its daily political/social discourse…

  1200. Sullivan44 Says:

    Seymour,

    yes, you can say that about any country on earth, including Mexico. It is what it is. They’re coming. Put a million border patrol agents on the border with automatic rifles. They’re still coming. That won’t happen anyway because their labor is too valuable to businesses. Immigration debate is political theater, nothing more. They’re needed, and, considering the history of this country, letting them in is the right thing to do.

  1201. Plunketthead Says:

    Nascar thug behavior?
    Those good old boys rarely if ever get in trouble, a speeding ticket now and then, maybe.

    And for 36 weekends of the year Nascar fans meet up all around the country. They camp out together all weekend, getting drunk and hating on other drivers

    But theres no knife fights, no drive bys, no gunshootings, (even though all those rednecks are packing enough to supply a small army)

    If you want to put rednecks down, you better find another way

  1202. Sullivan44 Says:

    Notice the immigration debate didn’t really get heated until 2006? That was when it hit every cable news channel, everyone had to take a side, etc.

    2006 = election year.

    Nuff said.

  1203. Raider O Says:

    Long Live Rednecks!!

  1204. Sullivan44 Says:

    A lot of NASCAR drivers are violent today. It’s part of a redneck thug tradition, the KKK, etc. They’re thugs.

  1205. KoolKell Says:

    Black Metrosexual Abe Lincoln Being Awesome

    A Super PAC’s scheme to depict President 0bama as a “black, metrosexual Abe Lincoln” in a GOP ad campaign was discovered by the New York Times today. Here’s a Photoshop rendering of how literally cool Metro Abe would look.

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/mikehayes/black-metrosexual-abe-lincoln-being-awesome
    ——————————–
    Wow. Lol.

  1206. Seymour Bush Says:

    Raider O Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 4:07 pm

    The problem with mass immigration is it forces the price of labour down. And it forces the price of everything else, like rent, food, gasoline, power, up. When wages go down, and prices go up, standards of living go off the cliff. Welcome to America, 1985-present.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    That’s not completely true.
    The old theory is more people = more demand (increas prices) = more people competing for the SAME jobs = less wages.
    What is true? More people = more demand for products and services = more jobs = more products and services produced = better incomes!
    ==============================================

    No. Sorry. More people = more demand for products, means products go UP in price. Econ 101. If wages do not keep up, or exceeds prices, which since more labor is coming in, by definition it won’t, then standards of living fall. And that is what CLEARLY has happened in this country. Unless you came from a dirt floor hut in Quetzalpa or Shintao. Then coming here you are living large.

  1207. Raider O Says:

    Tyson Chicken in N Carolina hires illegal immigrants to work. That’s a fact.

  1208. Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:

    Ranking QBs 1-32 by Jason Smith @ NFL.com

    20) Carson Palmer, Oakland Raiders: His best days are behind him (bad). But now he has a whole offseason with the team’s playbook (good). But he’s still throwing to DHB and a bunch of no-names he can’t make better (bad).

  1209. Seymour Bush Says:

    They’re needed, and, considering the history of this country, letting them in is the right thing to do.
    =========================================

    There’s not question it is the right thing to do for them, the question is, is it the right thing to do for those barely making it in our society. And when I mean those barely making it, I mean the middle class of American society.

  1210. Sullivan44 Says:

    2006, election year, immigration debate heats up. hmmm.

    Right after Obamma wins election, tea party emerges. hmmm.

    Before 2006 there was hardly any immigration news.

    Before 2008 election you heard nothing of the tea party.

    Just notice the timing of these fads.

  1211. Raider O Says:

    Please don’t talk about economics. I get insulted when you People talk economics. How many of you studied economics?
    Best example is Europe, open borders, create more jobs, produce more goods and services, etc…
    Let’s not talk economics. Please!

  1212. Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:

    D. Moore is a no name.

    Ford is a no name.

    Only hope Criner becomes a no name.

  1213. Seymour Bush Says:

    Sorry O I have an advanced degree in economics. And the European model proves my point.

  1214. Plunketthead Says:

    2007 sully trolls Raiderblog
    2008 sully trolls Raiderblog
    2009 sully trolls Raiderblog
    2010 sully trolls Raiderblog
    2011 sully trolls Raiderblog
    2012 same scat

    Thats weird when someone gets off starting arguements on a blog

  1215. Seymour Bush Says:

    Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 4:16 pm

    Ranking QBs 1-32 by Jason Smith @ NFL.com

    20) Carson Palmer, Oakland Raiders: His best days are behind him (bad). But now he has a whole offseason with the team’s playbook (good). But he’s still throwing to DHB and a bunch of no-names he can’t make better (bad).
    ==========================================

    I saw that and they have Andrew Luck who has never taken a snap in the NFL rated higher than Palmer. Along with Cam Newton, Andy Dalton, and a couple of other head scratchers.

  1216. Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:

    Sad.

  1217. Raider O Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 4:19 pm
    Sorry O I have an advanced degree in economics. And the European model proves my point.
    $$$$$$$$$$$

    LOL
    You should ask for a refund. (I’m joking)

  1218. Seymour Bush Says:

    And anyone who actually watched Palmer play last year, I have a hard time believing his best years are behind him.

  1219. Plunketthead Says:

    Moore may be one of the few players who can get our second round pick back next year.

  1220. Seymour Bush Says:

    Raider O Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 4:22 pm

    Seymour Bush Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 4:19 pm
    Sorry O I have an advanced degree in economics. And the European model proves my point.
    $$$$$$$$$$$

    LOL
    You should ask for a refund. (I’m joking)
    ==========================================

    I’m not insulted. Believe me, there is a lot about the European model I like, more than here, but the fact they opened their borders and it has cause their economy to boom, I have to disagree.

  1221. wasbanned Says:

    Fat Sapp says Allen is the new coach in the best position to win NOW.

    Says things are going to be exciting in the Bay this season.

    strange to get love from him on nfln…

  1222. Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:

    Can’t wait for the 20th ranked QB (according to some bozo) to lite up the NFL with some no names.

  1223. Raider O Says:

    How many immigrants moved to Germany since WW2? Why is Germany doing so well?

  1224. Plunketthead Says:

    Sapp is looking for a paycheck. The fish eyed fool will lick the buttcrack of anyone willing to hire his worthless butt

  1225. Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:

    zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz on the econ/history lessons, that was bad enough the first time through.

    Palmer’s command of the no huddle was amazing…haven’t seen leadership like that since Gannon/Plunket

  1226. Raider O Says:

    SB,

    I hope not. I was joking.
    Look at Countries with resources like Germany and France, and don’t focus on Greece.

  1227. Plunketthead Says:

    Since you want to talk about economics, Heres a serious question for all you educated economic nerds

    If the Raiders moved to Greece, would that be enough to save the country from the coming famine/depression/war?

  1228. Seymour Bush Says:

    Raider O Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 4:25 pm

    How many immigrants moved to Germany since WW2? Why is Germany doing so well?
    ==============================================

    A lot of reasons. The Germans have always done well. They have a very hard working citizenry, good social programs and a solid eduction system that sends some to higher education and some to vocations. When the German economy tanked at the end of WWI because of the Weimar sanctions it took the entire continent with it. Germany is an open society in Europe but it is hard to believe the reason the German economy has been doing so well for so long is because of immigration. It has more to do with the other reasons I stated.

  1229. Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:

    Economist are people didn’t have enough personality to become accountants…I’m in danger in getting whiplash from yawning so damn hard.

    Aside from the battle to replace #55, I’m looking forward to the battle @ LG and RT. Not as riveting as discussing economics, but then, I’m easily satiated.

  1230. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    Peemore Bust has an advanced degree in economics! Funniest thing I’ve heard all year

    And I’ve watched Juwanna Man like 5 times

  1231. KoolKell Says:

    Plunketthead Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 4:30 pm

    Since you want to talk about economics, Heres a serious question for all you educated economic nerds
    ——————————–
    Funny how Republicans have been brain-washed to think of education as some kind of Liberal indoctrination. Not really.

  1232. Raider O Says:

    Soccer Ambassador,

    LOL
    Their main source of revenue is tourism. They are done.

  1233. Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:

    Swing and miss Kell:

    Robert Smalls (April 5 , 1839–February 23, 1915) was an enslaved African American who, eventually became a politician, serving in the South Carolina State legislature and the United States House of Representatives. During his career, Smalls authored state legislation that gave South Carolina the first free and compulsory public school system in the United States, founded the Republican Party of South Carolina.

    Oh, and the battle for Back up Center has me up late at nights.

  1234. Sullivan44 Says:

    pfft. censorship…

  1235. Raider O Says:

    A lot of reasons. The Germans have always done well. They have a very hard working citizenry, good social programs and a solid eduction system that sends some to higher education and some to vocations. When the German economy tanked at the end of WWI because of the Weimar sanctions it took the entire continent with it. Germany is an open society in Europe but it is hard to believe the reason the German economy has been doing so well for so long is because of immigration. It has more to do with the other reasons I stated.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Thank you. That’s exactly my point. So immigration since WW2 didn’t have a negative effect on their economy?

  1236. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    Immigration is for Nerds

    You blog goobers need to focus more on partying and getting fizzle with baked honies

    Then you won’t pee your Underoos every time a woman comes within 20 ft of your weiner

    This cool island jam from Rasta Ganja should help you get the Beeeech Diggity vibe flowin’, it’s called “Makin’ Hot Love Wit Hos, Mon”

    When I get IRIE reggae music makes me dance
    Den I find a ho and she massage the gopher in me pants
    We drink the margarita and sing Bob Marley song
    The ho pull out the ruler measure me dode 1 ft long

    KINGSTON TOWN REPRESENT BEEEECH DIGGITY FAMILY STYLE

  1237. Sullivan44 Says:

    Raiders.

  1238. Sullivan44 Says:

    Anyone have a list of words that are censored?

  1239. KoolKell Says:

    Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 4:38 pm
    Swing and miss Kell:

    Robert Smalls (April 5 , 1839–February 23, 1915) was an enslaved African American who, eventually became a politician, serving in the South Carolina State legislature and the United States House of Representatives. During his career, Smalls authored state legislation that gave South Carolina the first free and compulsory public school system in the United States, founded the Republican Party of South Carolina.
    ———————————-
    The Republican Party completely changed during the Civil Rights era, smart ass. Lol.

  1240. Raider O Says:

    This guy complains about economics but he is talking about race and politics.
    Economics is boring for people that can’t understand it.

  1241. Sullivan44 Says:

    Mexicans.

  1242. Sullivan44 Says:

    Unionized.

  1243. Sullivan44 Says:

    Hmm. What gives, mods? Tell me what I’m doing wrong?

  1244. Method To My Madness Says:

    MR…you are having me die laughing today

    Beecher and Dumbkota and any other LA hack…..damn the money…that isn’t a Raider town….too many transplants….Take your rams or chargers back….end of story

    You guys are disrespectful to all the legends and all the other ppl who helped build this thing….after 83 season it went to schit in LA. You guys really act like Oakland is Oklahoma….people will come here no doubt. I dunno why you guys think everyone wants LA. Not all like that sort of life…..you guys like to steal and not earn. LA has shown they don’t deserve a team

  1245. Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:

    Beeeech Dawg,

    How about a song about a Rastafarian super hero called “Iron Mon’”…???

    No joking, show some love as only you can.

  1246. Raider O Says:

    Beeech,

    I’m a nerd bro. I can’t help it, but I do like smoking Ganja.

  1247. KoolKell Says:

    Lowdown,

    Abraham Lincoln a Republican signed the Emancipation Proclamation, too, ok?

  1248. Sullivan44 Says:

    These mods are making no sense at all today. Why can’t they just give us a list of banned words? I’m going right down the list here.

  1249. Sullivan44 Says:

    Weird. Oh well, guess certain people can say whatever they want and certain people can’t respond. Must be a buddy system. What can you do?

  1250. Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:

    MTMM,

    Over and under till his next meltdown??

    LA can secede from the Raider Nation for all I care.

  1251. Method To My Madness Says:

    MR your comedy ensues….I’m dying at all your comments today….you on the war path

  1252. papertiger418 Says:

    Beech, if you were forced to emigrate to another country, which one would you pick and why?

  1253. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 4:43 pm

    Beeeech Dawg,

    How about a song about a Rastafarian super hero called “Iron Mon’”…???

    No joking, show some love as only you can.

    ———————-

    LiB – you’re in lucky – I brought the laptop into the head while I squeeze out a fresh but watery duece and luckily I was able to push out these lyrics also

    Obviously they’d be sung over a chill drum beat with lots of rim shots, pumping bass, and Jamaican chicks with big melons chanting “Ooooo La La LaLa”

    Yo, the Iron Mon is here to bust an Iron Mon load
    Dem ladies like to worship my indestructible dode
    Try to ride my pony, girl, you like how it feel
    Now come and lick dem balls, dey both made out of steal

  1254. Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:

    Kell,

    Why the wide brush pal?

    Stepping over to you old stomping grounds in a week before Tokyo gets too hot, I’ll be on the look out for any progeny you may have contributed.

    Miller v. Parsons: The fate of Second Place is at Stake!

  1255. Method To My Madness Says:

    Lowdown….I won’t do the seceding of LA thing cuz there are some cool LA cats who dig Raiders and believe the belong here

    Next meltdown?…..in 5,4,3,2…….

  1256. Sullivan44 Says:

    Modern day politics.

    Immigration – started in 2006, election year.

    tea party – started as soon as Obamma won election in ‘08

  1257. JLofty Says:

    I worked for a nascar team on the west coast and am a motorsports fan in general.
    True they are MUCH better behaved than urban bangers, but i had my nose broke by some drunk dude at Sears Point in 1990. Its not all peace and love. Never seen a gun at a race though…

  1258. Sullivan44 Says:

    Every NFL team should move to LA. All 32 of them. Why not? I mean, huge t.v. market, endorsements, access to hollywood helps attract free agents. Why should only the Raiders be interested? Sounds as if it would be beneficial to every team.

  1259. Method To My Madness Says:

    Beecher should emigrate to North Korea….let’s see if that dictator can get wit his “rap style”….or even better if he hates it…which is for sure….we can never hear from Beecher again

  1260. Sullivan44 Says:

    Lofty, if there were shootings at NASCAR events, you’d just chalk up to the 2nd amendment rights. There is nothing that could happen at a NASCAR event that you’d chalk up to thug culture, unless it were committed by blacks.

  1261. Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:

    MTMM,

    Yes, I was rather rash in my condemnation of the Southern Raider Nation.

    LA is home to many of my favorite Rockabilly bands and venues.

    Still the rest of the clowns deserve the Dodgers and nothing more.

    Beeech Dawg….sweet, I am an insect in your presence.

  1262. Raider O Says:

    Seymour Bush,

    You didn’t answer my question. Any response to post 1235?

  1263. KoolKell Says:

    Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
    Kell,

    Why the wide brush pal?

    Stepping over to you old stomping grounds in a week before Tokyo gets too hot, I’ll be on the look out for any progeny you may have contributed.
    —————————————–
    Wonder if Mugens is still open in Akasaka? or the Soul Embassy in Roppongi?

  1264. JLofty Says:

    Hey B,
    Speakin of nba fans in colored shirts, i remeber my gold “we believe” shirt was pretty common at the Oakland Alameda county arena a few years back. Whole crowd had em on for months.
    Should be fun to watch the Okies crush the Flakers in LaLa….

  1265. Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:

    I fear Seymour may have died of not giving a f\/ck Raider O.

    Miller v Parsons: Battle of the Bench 2012.

  1266. Sullivan44 Says:

    If the OMalley’s hadn’t sold the team to Murdoch (Fox), the Dodgers and the Yankess would have played in at least 5 World Series in the past decade. Dodgers were on the cusp of blowing up, they’d had the best scouts in baseball, lineup was filled with ROYs. They were right there. Then Murdoch bought the team and had a garage sale, just like Wall Street vultures, got rid of everyone. OMalley tried to buy the team back once he realized what Murdoch was doing. Too late.

  1267. Method To My Madness Says:

    Lol….MR I like the. Sarcasm in that….I think folks don’t understand why LA will never work….well Rams would in LA. It is amazing that ppl can be that selfish and greedy to take what isn’t theirs. Top free agents wanna g to LA…not to play football for damn sure….Some folks need to talk to Rod Martin

  1268. Plunketthead Says:

    MRsully

    Heres the list of censored words

    Good luck

  1269. Sullivan44 Says:

    Dodgers have been in disarray ever since.

  1270. Hot Shot Says:

    Why dont you guys open your own politics blog and go talk on that.This is a Raiders football blog.Please change the subject.Its getting old.

  1271. Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:

    Shudder…Roppongi district…I’d love to have seen it in your day, but now it’s seedy in a commercialized kinda way…with ex war criminals from Ghana running the doors…most disconcerting.

    Mugens? I’ll let you know…I usually don’t remember much after a night out in Akasaka, but I will try.

    Bench Battles heating up in Oakland!

  1272. Method To My Madness Says:

    JL…I remember….I couldn’t do it tho…maybe cuz I love being the oddball lol

    Yes Lakers bout to get scraped

  1273. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    Brian the Genital, you and grandpa Krappy will have a great time in my luxury box at Farmer’s Field at the Raider’s LA home opener

    I’m telling you, if KrappyRat sticks his paws in the fresh nacho cheese you’ll both get sued for cause, plus all access to the PARTYDUDE 8000 will be revoked.

    The old fool must be kept in check. And no diaper changing near the buffet station.

  1274. Sullivan44 Says:

    The arguments to move to LA just crack me up, because every team could be lured by such arguments. What makes the Raiders so special? Why are they at the forefront of the LA sweepstakes? Because they’ve been there before? They left for a reason, and I’m sure the city council of whatever burb they try to move into down there will look into it. I see pretty much ANY team being a better candidate than the Raiders. Fanfare? Come on. Whatever team moves down there, or whatever expansion team is built, LA is going to support them. Raiders, or anyone else.

  1275. Raider O Says:

    LiB,

    Maybe. You can’t/ shouldn’t judge people based on yourself. Some people are capable of understanding economics, and enjoy talking about it.
    If we all had the same capabilities, we wouldn’t have janitors, housekeepers, etc…

  1276. Method To My Madness Says:

    Mr…you are very rough onn whites today…what’s the deal? Everything copasetic in Sac?

  1277. Sullivan44 Says:

    I’ll tell you right now. Whoever moves to LA, Raiders or otherwise, there will be a price. What do you think LA is, a cow town desperate for a sports team? They’re holding all the cards. They would tax the Raiders to the tilt. Maybe your Packers, G-men or Patriots cold hold LA’s balls to the fire. Any other team? Including the Raiders? Other way around.

  1278. Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:

    Hasta gents, it’s Saturday here and I’m off to the market before it reaches 95F.

    This years hot color is white.

    The most fashionable way for the girls to wear this color is on anything very short, very thin and damn near transparent.

    And four inch pumps.

  1279. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Man I was scared when I first read KoolKell’s post, than I realized it meant ALL minoriites together equal just more than 50% of new babies.

    If you would have asked me, I would thought that this was true starting about 15 years ago!!!

    That’s like finding a twenty in an old pair of jeans!!!

  1280. Raidernationdave Says:

    Nnamdi21 Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 3:47 pm

    1172. 2/3rds of all illegals pay more taxes than General Electric
    +++++++++++++++++++
    No body “pays” taxes! All they do is get further in ‘debt’ playing with phoney fiat currency.

    BTW, how do think that whole RoMac thing will play out?

  1281. Sullivan44 Says:

    Why should the city council of LA or any suburb down there accept any less of perks from the Raiders than what they would get from owners of another team or an expansion team? Some Raider fans act like moving to LA is as easy as getting your old job back at your dad’s shop. Raiders really have two options:

    1) Stay in Oakland. Develop, build that coliseum city or whatever.

    2) Move to some small city desperate for a sports team. the Des Moines Raiders. Good luck.

  1282. Sullivan44 Says:

    Mark Davis will have to get a few winning seasons under his belt, probably a SB, before he can start going around putting the Raiders on the market. These cities will want to know for sure that Mark’s not his old man. Because every single resemblance to his old man is one huge red flag to these cities.

  1283. JLofty Says:

    damn near transparent.

    And four inch pumps.

    -I love spring/summer.

  1284. GG Says:

    1174 and 1175 RMR gets confused again which alias to post under

  1285. Seymour Bush Says:

    @ raider O

    Iff you look closely at my statement ii said “mass immigration.” Immigration in and of itself is not bad. Shoot, America has made a living brain draining other countries. In fact if we did not “import” those German nuclear scientists we wouldn’t have won WWII. But that is different from masses of poor who come here with nothing including no education.

  1286. alzadoX Says:

    a question I have re: Romac trial

    is the first trial in Alabama like a preliminary hearing in California before a judge? Or did McClain through his lawyer waive his right (US Constitution) to a jury trial and agree to a trial by judge? Or stipulate to try this first with guaranteed appeal? If the former, maybe his lawyer is right that this doesn’t mean much. (Not that I personally believe he’s not guilty, nor do I believe he’s guilty as charged. I think he should have his right to have a jury determine innocence or guilt)

    Would like clarification on judicial process in criminal court in Decatur Alabama as it applies to Romac case

  1287. Hot Shot Says:

    Three women left separately after a very late night out drinking Guinness until the early hours. They met the next day for an early pint, and compared notes about who had been the most drunk.

    The first gal claims that she was the drunkest, saying, “I drove straight home, walked into the house, and as soon as I got through the door, I blew chunks”.

    To which the second gal replied, “You think that was drunk? I got in my car, drove out of the parking lot, and wrapped my car around the first tree I saw. I don’t even have insurance!”

    And the third proclaimed, “I was by far the most drunk. I got home, I go in a big fight with my husband, knocked a candle over and burned the whole house down!”

    They all looked at each other for a moment. Then the first gal says: “Ladies, I don’t think you understand. Chunks is my dog.”!!!!!LOL

  1288. RaiderDuck Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 5:13 pm

    2) Move to some small city desperate for a sports team. the Des Moines Raiders. Good luck.

    ===========================================

    Speaking of which, they still sell “Irwindale Raiders” memorabilia on eBay.

  1289. iowaraider Says:

    I’d like to have the Raiders here!

  1290. JLofty Says:

    Thanks for the laugh hot shot!

    Have a great weekend NATION!

    I am going to think about Asian ladies in white and pumps….;-)

  1291. Sullivan44 Says:

    Doesn’t Irwindale still have that hole in the ground?

  1292. alzadoX Says:

    Vittorio Tafur
    Also in Oakland Raiders

    Judge Cook said the evidence that convinced him to find McClain guilty was the man who called 911 that night. The man testified he was at home across the street on Nov. 30 when he saw and heard a gun fired, but didn’t know who did it and called 911.

    ****

    interesting (also in articles). So evidence of someone not knowing who fired a shot alone convinced judge that it had to have been McClain, even though witness who called 911 didn’t know who it was? Hmmm

  1293. RaiderLen Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 3:57 pm
    More than half of all babies born last year were members of minority groups, the first time in U.S. history. It’s a sign of how swiftly the USA is becoming a nation of younger minorities and older whites.

    Hispanics, blacks, Asians and other minorities in 2011 accounted for 50.4% of births, 49.7% of all children under 5 and slightly more than half of the 4 million kids under 1, the Census Bureau reports today.

    The nation’s growing diversity has huge implications for education, economics and politics. “Children are in the vanguard of this transition,” says Kenneth Johnson, a demographer at the University of New Hampshire’s Carsey Institute.
    ——————————————-
    Read’em and weep, you true, red-blooded Americans.
    —————————————
    Yawn…

    “Pollocks”, “Chinks”,”Micks”, “Waps”, Jews etc…were all minorities, or considered as such, at one time or another.

    The 2nd generation of all immigrants become “Americanized” and behave according to the social options available.

    It’s meaningless.

  1294. Hot Shot Says:

    A guy walks into a bar and orders a drink. After a few more he needs to go to the can. He doesn’t want anyone to steal his drink so he puts a sign on it saying, “I spat in this beer, do not drink!”. After a few minutes he returns and there is another sign next to his beer saying, “So did I!”

  1295. RaiderLen Says:

    Hot Shot Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
    A guy walks into a bar and orders a drink. After a few more he needs to go to the can. He doesn’t want anyone to steal his drink so he puts a sign on it saying, “I spat in this beer, do not drink!”. After a few minutes he returns and there is another sign next to his beer saying, “So did I!”
    —————————–
    LOL! Clever.

  1296. Hot Shot Says:

    Three men were sitting in a bar talking about how whipped they had their wives.

    The first two kept bragging about how they could get their wives to do anything.

    They looked at the third man and he said, “I have my wife so whipped that the other day I had her crawling towards me on her hands and knees.”

    Both of the other men were very impressed and asked him how he had managed that.

    The man replied, “Well, I was lying under the bed and she crawled over and said, “Come out and fight like a man!”.

  1297. alzadoX Says:

    Vittorio Tafur ‏@VittorioTafur

    “There’s no evidence that Rolando McClain had a gun,” his attorney, Harvey Steinberg, said outside the courtroom.
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    Anybody with familiarity of attorneys knows “there’s no evidence” means there’s no evidence they want to acknowledge. The reason they don’t want to acknowledge it can be because it really doesn’t exist, but also could mean they know it exists but don’t want to acknowledge it exists because that would hurt their client, or some variation of that, or some other reason.

  1298. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I would have never thought I would turn to the MLB mix page, and immediately see Orioles and Nationals and tune in.

    Beltway baseball….feel the excitement!!!

  1299. Plunketthead Says:

    Oakglen Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 5:20 pm
    In fact if we did not “import” those German nuclear scientists we wouldn’t have won WWII.
    #####################

    lol we did not “import” them untill after we won WWII.

  1300. RaiderLen Says:

    Plunketthead Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
    Oakglen Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 5:20 pm
    In fact if we did not “import” those German nuclear scientists we wouldn’t have won WWII.
    #####################

    lol we did not “import” them untill after we won WWII.
    ———————————————-
    Project Paper Clip.

    Responsible for our “American Space Program.”

    Some German Jew Scientists mat have fled prior to WWII to the States. Einstein?

  1301. R8ER MIKE Says:

    Am I a redneck because I cut my own hair with dog clippers.?
    thank Gawd that I am southern Maryland redneck and not a
    SOPHISTICATED d!ck head fck like you Sully

  1302. Hot Shot Says:

    A drunk phoned police to report that thieves had been in his car.

    “They’ve stolen the dashboard, the steering wheel, the brake pedal, even the accelerator!” he cried out.

    However, before the police investigation could start, the phone rang a second time with the same voice came over the line.

    “Never mind,” he said with a hiccup, “I got in the back seat by mistake.”

  1303. alzadoX Says:

    if in California or most other states and alleged to have committed the crimes McClain has been “convicted” of, McClain would have faced (at least one) felony charge probably multiple felony charges. But in Alabama, while charged with misdemeanors, he is considered a “convict” after a trial by a judge who says evidence of someone telling 911 that he doesn’t know who fired a gun convinced judge McClain fired the gun.

    And based on this “conviction” Goodell/NFL may take disciplinary action on McClain before McClain has his constitutional right to a jury trial? Can Goodell/NFL take disciplinary action after just an arrest? I guess Big Ben Roethlisberger wasn’t even charged but was disciplined, but I believed that was based on specific conduct against NFL personal conduct policy. (?)

    Need clarification on NFL disciplinary policy as it applies to this case

    Not to say that a jury trial will be more fair, it’s entirely possible that a jury will let him off or hang because he’s a hometown football hero even if evidence is against him. But Romac still has a right to a jury trial before facing jail time, under US Constitution, as I understand it, only instance where someone is supposed to not have right to jury is if maximum penalty cannot include jail/prison time

  1304. Plunketthead Says:

    I took “import” to mean the ones we “imported” after WWII

    It still does not make sense. The war was pretty much over by the time we dropped nukes.
    Germany had surrendered and Japan was not operating anywhere but home.

  1305. Hot Shot Says:

    A man walks into a bar and says to the bartender, “I bet you fifty dollars that I can bite my right eye.” The bartender says, “Yeah, right! I’ve never seen anyone do that!” So the man takes out his glass eye and bites it.

    The angry bartender pays the man his fifty dollars and the man walks away. He comes back half an hour later and says, “I bet you fifty dollars I can bite my left eye.” Now the bartender becomes really skeptical. She says, “I just saw you walk in here — you can’t be blind!” So he takes out his fake teeth and bites his left eye. The bartender pays him his money and he walks away.

  1306. RaiderDuck Says:

    Raidersblog speculated earlier today that Reggie’s probably calling the league offices, asking for the likely length of McClain’s suspension so he can plan for it.

  1307. RaiderLen Says:

    R8ER MIKE Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
    Am I a redneck because I cut my own hair with dog clippers.?
    thank Gawd that I am southern Maryland redneck and not a
    SOPHISTICATED d!ck head fck like you Sully
    —————————————
    Mike, You’re not Socially sophisticated.

    You must go to a hair salon and pay money to have your hair cut.

    It’s your duty as a public servant to be “sophisticated” as opposed to self reliant.

  1308. Raider O Says:

    Seymour Bush,

    Almost 20% of Germans are immigrants.

    According to Wiki, In 2008 18.4% of Germans of any age group and 30% of German children had at least one parent born abroad. Median age for Germans with at least one parent born abroad was 33.8 years, while that for Germans, who had two parents born in Germany was 44.6 years.[24]

  1309. RaiderLen Says:

    Plunketthead Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 5:45 pm
    I took “import” to mean the ones we “imported” after WWII

    It still does not make sense. The war was pretty much over by the time we dropped nukes.
    Germany had surrendered and Japan was not operating anywhere but home.
    ————————
    Plunketthead,

    Sorry for not being more precise.

    Project “Paper Clip” DID take place after WWII was decided.

    Those German Scientists, including Van Braughn, were responsible for our space program.

    Einstein, I believe, fled Germany as hostilities escalated, and helped the US develope the Bomb.

  1310. Raider O Says:

    Long Live ODB.

  1311. RaiderDuck Says:

    Plunketthead Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 5:45 pm
    I took “import” to mean the ones we “imported” after WWII

    It still does not make sense. The war was pretty much over by the time we dropped nukes.
    Germany had surrendered and Japan was not operating anywhere but home.

    =============================================

    The best intel Truman had speculated that an invasion of Japan (”X Day”) would have resulted in between 100,000 and ONE MILLION allied casualties. I saw a BBC special on Hiroshima where they interviewed Japanese doctors who had been trained to strap on explosives and throw themselves under tanks. Students were trained in how to use sharpened bamboo poles against our men. Dropping the two atomic bombs prevented an even bigger catastrophe.

  1312. Raider O Says:

    ODB,

    If you are not paying $20+ for a haircut, then you are not sophisticated.
    If you drink beer, you are not sophisticated.
    If you drive a truck, you are not sophisticated.

    If you want to have a 3some with your cousin and aunt, you are Sophisticated.
    If you like to argue for attention, you are sophisticated.

  1313. KoolKell Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 5:10 pm

    Man I was scared when I first read KoolKell’s post, than I realized it meant ALL minoriites together equal just more than 50% of new babies.
    —————————————
    Hehehe. I’ll remember that! Lol.

  1314. RaiderLen Says:

    RaiderDuck Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 5:48 pm
    Raidersblog speculated earlier today that Reggie’s probably calling the league offices, asking for the likely length of McClain’s suspension so he can plan for it.
    ——————————–
    Due diligence.

  1315. R8ER MIKE Says:

    To quote the movie Strips. Were all mutts.

  1316. Raider O Says:

    I’m not a mutt. I’m a purebred!
    You mutts are not sophisticated enough to understand that.

  1317. RaiderLen Says:

    Raider O Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 6:05 pm
    I’m not a mutt. I’m a purebred!
    You mutts are not sophisticated enough to understand that.
    ————————————–
    Raider O,

    Wasn’t your native land overrun throughout History?

    If so, there might be a few “discrepancies” in that DNA. lol

  1318. Just Fire Baby Says:

    And where was that great bomb made??

    New Mexico!!!!!

  1319. Just Fire Baby Says:

    This is what is great about the MLB baseball package. Hear Verlander is throwing a no-no, and get to flip it over for some great action.

    Dude is throwing 99mph in the 8th innning. Just insane.

    Top 10 most dominant athlete in ANY sport right now.

  1320. Raider O Says:

    lol
    Yes, but my ancestors were special.
    No Romans
    No Egyptians
    No Turks
    No English and French
    No Arabs

  1321. R8ER MIKE Says:

    LMFAO O!!!
    at least we know the Green Party is well rounded!!!

  1322. Raider O Says:

    Purebred Palestinians?!
    I can’t say that with a straight face. LOL

    I’m a Mutt!

  1323. Raider O Says:

    LOL ODB.
    People here are crazy. They judge/ discriminate against people based on color/race and ethnicity. That’s wrong and ignorant.
    If you are going to hate and discriminate, then you need valid reasons like faith/ religion, land, history, property, etc… lol
    You People have much to learn.

  1324. RaiderLen Says:

    Raider O Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 6:16 pm
    Purebred Palestinians?!
    I can’t say that with a straight face. LOL

    I’m a Mutt!
    ———————————-
    Mutts are smart!

  1325. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Here we go Verlander, 3 more outs to go.

    I never thought someone would give Nolan Ryan a run for his 7 no hitters but this guy may to do it.

  1326. Raider O Says:

    Len,

    And they usually live longer due to good health unless the are married.

  1327. R8ER MIKE Says:

    Mutts are loyal.

  1328. RaiderLen Says:

    Raider O Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 6:24 pm
    Len,

    And they usually live longer due to good health unless the are married.
    ——————————–
    LOL

    I’m a Mutt, but I’m married…I guess I’m half screwed. lol

  1329. R8ER MIKE Says:

    Don’t understand why some of YOU PEOPLE have a problem with mutts!!!

  1330. RaiderLen Says:

    R8ER MIKE Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 6:24 pm
    Mutts are loyal.
    ——————————
    Haha,

    Once you’ve won a mutt over, you have a friend for life. lol

  1331. Just Fire Baby Says:

    DAMNIT!!!!

    Great AB from that Pirate guy broke it up.

  1332. Raider O Says:

    LMAO Len.

  1333. R8ER MIKE Says:

    lol…I am a ODB redneck mutt!!!!
    LIVIN LARGE!!!
    ok it 2xl!! yeah I am a fat bastard too!

  1334. Just Fire Baby Says:

    2 XL ain’t even big anymore the ways these kids wear there shirts so tight these days.

    XL’s are like a shmedium for me now, and I am your typical average size dude.

  1335. R8ER MIKE Says:

    Whoops forgot I’m a hippie too!! Lol lol

  1336. Raider O Says:

    ODB = Green Party Member!

    Long Live The ODB.

  1337. R8ER MIKE Says:

    Battle of the beltways all tied up JFB.

  1338. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I’m on it, Harper is up next.

  1339. Raider O Says:

    Later Gents.
    Green Party Rules!
    Long Live The ODB!

  1340. J Hill Says:

    I just don’t get why some people always seems to root against our 1st rd picks. Its not always the same people each year, but be it McFadden, DHB, or now McClain. How does it help the team if our first rd picks aren’t even on the team?

  1341. Breaking_Black Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 4:43 pm

    MR…you are having me die laughing today

    Beecher and Dumbkota and any other LA hack…..damn the money…that isn’t a Raider town….too many transplants….Take your rams or chargers back….end of story

    You guys are disrespectful to all the legends and all the other ppl who helped build this thing….after 83 season it went to schit in LA. You guys really act like Oakland is Oklahoma….people will come here no doubt. I dunno why you guys think everyone wants LA. Not all like that sort of life…..you guys like to steal and not earn. LA has shown they don’t deserve a team

    ———

    Lol, why does everybody refer to LA as “you guys”. The people of LA CANNOT STEAL AN NFL TEAM FROM ANYBODY. IF THAT WAS POSSIBLE WE WOULD HAVE TOOK THE RAIDERS AWAY FROM OAKLAND ALREADY.

    We don’t “like to steal”. We just love football and want to have a team here.

    And to Sullivan, you keep repeating crap about every team moving to LA. Every organization hasn’t sucked for the past decade and had trouble selling out the games in which they have an awesome team like The Raiders PLAYING ON A BASEBALL FIELD. The reason teams end up on a list of possible teams to move is because of problems getting a new stadium. And that’s why LA lost their teams. Because nobody stepped up to build a new NFL stadium. The people of Oakland and St. Louis didn’t take The Raiders and Rams. LA lost them. And now the same thing may happen to Oakland if someone doesn’t step up and give The Raiders what they deserve.

  1342. R8ER MIKE Says:

    O peace out my GREEN PARTY brother

  1343. J Hill Says:

    Where are the foil hats?????

    You mean to tell me you wont be screaming Raider bias if Goodell even thinks about suspending a RAIDER before a jury renders a verdict?

  1344. R8ER MIKE Says:

    BB well said sir.

  1345. Hardline Says:

    Alabama Rules of Criminal Procedure

    Rule 18. Trial by jury; waiver; selection and preparation of petit jurors.

    Rule 18.1. Trial by jury.
    (a) RIGHT TO TRIAL BY JURY. Defendants in all criminal cases shall have the
    right to be tried by a jury. In cases triable in the first instance in district or
    municipal courts, the defendant shall have the right to trial by jury only on
    demand upon appeal to the circuit court for trial de novo as provided in Rule 31.1.

    30.1. Upon conviction in municipal or district court,
    the defendant shall be
    advised of the right to appeal for trial de novo and to demand a jury trial.

    Under this rule, the defendant cannot avoid being tried in the district or
    municipal court and cannot go directly to the circuit court for trial by jury in the
    first instance other than by simply not contesting the issue and appealing the
    result. Of course, in most instances the defendant will want both chances at an
    acquittal and would not elect to remove his case if he could.

    Alabama Rules of Criminal Procedure

    Rule 30. Appeals from municipal and district courts.

    Rule 30.1. Right to appeal.

    (a) TRIAL DE NOVO. A defendant convicted of an offense in a municipal
    court or a district court shall have the right to appeal the judgment, within
    fourteen (14) days of the date of the judgment or the denial of a timely filed postjudgment
    motion, to the circuit court for a trial de novo.

  1346. R8ER MIKE Says:

    JHill yes we all will. Why? because we are all Raider fans and it matters to us.
    We are all passionate about our team. He!! I have my right arm tattooed from my elbow to over my shoulder

  1347. RaiderDuck Says:

    New post.

  1348. R8ER MIKE Says:

    * with the Raider shield

  1349. alzadoX Says:

    Hardline Says:
    May 18th, 2012 at 7:01 pm

    Alabama Rules of Criminal Procedure

    Rule 18. Trial by jury; waiver; selection and preparation of petit jurors.

    Rule 18.1. Trial by jury.
    (a) RIGHT TO TRIAL BY JURY. Defendants in all criminal cases shall have the
    right to be tried by a jury. In cases triable in the first instance in district or
    municipal courts, the defendant shall have the right to trial by jury only on
    demand upon appeal to the circuit court for trial de novo as provided in Rule 31.1.

    ****

    thanks for info Hardline

  1350. thanh lap cong ty Says:

    thanh lap cong ty…

    [...]Judge: McClain guilty on all counts; sentenced to 180 days in jail – Inside the Oakland Raiders – A look inside the world of the highly classified Oakland Raiders from the writers of Bay Area News Group[...]…

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