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Raiders assistant trainer Chris Cortez is a hero

By Jon Becker
Friday, June 22nd, 2012 at 4:24 pm in Oakland Raiders.

A great story emerged from a potentially tragic one Saturday when Raiders assistant trainer Chris Cortez helped pull a woman out of a sinking car in the Oakland estuary.

Here’s a link to the story on our website, where we re-tell the story Cortez relayed to Jeanette Thompson from Raiders.com in the latest installment of their “Behind the Shield” video show.

Here’s a video from the story that aired on NBC BayArea:

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822 Responses to “Raiders assistant trainer Chris Cortez is a hero”

  1. Sullivan44 Says:

    god’s a myth.

  2. TxRaider210 Says:

    Way to go Chris, a true Raider!

  3. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Way to go Mr. Cortez!!!!

    God certainly blessed him and this lady

  4. PlunkforHOF Says:

    Good on you Chris..

  5. Sullivan44 Says:

    Haha. JFB took the bait. No will power.

  6. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Brad Roll would have hurt himself trying to pull this off!!

  7. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Just for you Sully….

  8. PlunkforHOF Says:

    MR.. your mom is gonna be so mad when she finds out you’re on another crank runner down in the basement!

  9. TxRaider210 Says:

    Kelly Skipper may have had issues also.lol

  10. TxRaider210 Says:

    PlunkforHOF Says:
    June 22nd, 2012 at 4:39 pm
    MR.. your mom is gonna be so mad when she finds out you’re on another crank runner down in the basement!
    ————————-
    LMAO @ crank runner

  11. Sullivan44 Says:

    Crank? I’m not a redneck.

  12. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Let’s GO Gi–Ants!!! clap, clap, clap-clap-clap
    Let’s GO Gi–Ants!!! clap, clap, clap-clap-clap
    Let’s GO Gi–Ants!!! clap, clap, clap-clap-clap

  13. PlunkforHOF Says:

    You do claim to live in Sacramento, the methamphetamine center of the U.S..

    BTW, still waiting for your proof that I have claimed to be a Republican.

  14. Sullivan44 Says:

    JFB, you’re acting like the Giants are the Yankees or something. Nobody cares about the Giants.

  15. Sullivan44 Says:

    Yeah, plunkforbrains, just because a certain city has more users of a given drug than other cities, it’s automatic proof that the MAJORITY of people in that city use that drug. Brilliant, buddy. How many lines of crank did you snort toda?

  16. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Nobody cares about the Giants.

    *************************

    I do, and I AM somebody, unlike yourself

  17. Sullivan44 Says:

    Even in Sac, Crank is a redneck drug. I’m no redneck. Most people in Sac aren’t. It’s the outskirts where all of the redneck tweekers are. The heavily Republican areas, actually.

  18. TxRaider210 Says:

    ufc fight on free on first row sports gents..

  19. Sullivan44 Says:

    You sell bogus health insurance, JFB. You’re somebody like a carny is somebody.

  20. PlunkforHOF Says:

    Just sayin, MethMouth.. BTW how many teeth you got left?

  21. TxRaider210 Says:

    lots of pop ups but only at the start

  22. Sullivan44 Says:

    Methmouth?

    Dork.

  23. Sullivan44 Says:

    Goodbye redneck bible freaks. Have sophisticated things to do, with sophisticated people. :)

  24. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Have sophisticated things to do, with sophisticated people.

    *************************

    Yup, Mums is about to throw in a TV dinner after she finishes off her 750ML of Old Crow

  25. PlunkforHOF Says:

    That glass pipe is calling your name again huh? Mom is gonna be SO pissed.

  26. KoolKell Says:

    TxRaider210 Says:
    June 22nd, 2012 at 4:51 pm

    lots of pop ups but only at the start
    ————————
    Who’s fighting?

  27. TxRaider210 Says:

    Geez the Hooters commercials that say “you deserve more than a mouth-ful”lol

  28. TxRaider210 Says:

    Guida vs. Maynard

  29. SR Raider Says:

    Hooters vs my mouth

  30. Raidernationdave Says:

    Real Men Were Black!

  31. Raidernationdave Says:

    I love your mum! Lampshades ain’t got nuttin’ on her!

    +++++++++++++++++++++

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    June 22nd, 2012 at 4:54 pm

    Have sophisticated things to do, with sophisticated people.

    *************************

    Yup, Mums is about to throw in a TV dinner after she finishes off her 750ML of Old Crow

  32. Raidernationdave Says:

    Prove it!

    ++++++++++++++++

    Sullivan44 Says:
    June 22nd, 2012 at 4:26 pm

    god’s a myth.

  33. Plunketthead Says:

    Firebaby!!

    Intentional Talk is my new favorite show.
    I wish the Espn game would be someone else besides boston and NY

  34. Plunketthead Says:

    I would rather see Mike Trout or Bryce Harper and Strausberg

  35. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Boston vs NY is so 2004, lol.

    Nats are the “It” team right now.

  36. Hardline Says:

    To take up the discussion from yesterday: our presumptive candidate claims austerity will do the trick and jumpstart the economy. This has been proven wrong in Europe. The problem is when the money quits flowing main street starves to death.

    The pres should start with the pentagon and military budgets and cut them 30%. That will eliminate the graft and corruption and still allow for normal operations.

    He should then cut entitlements 30%, welfare, disability etc. Also anyone who has not paid into the system like anchor babies, parents of naturalized citizens who were brought here to be placed on the public dole, should be denied all benefits.

    Then, we should take over the oilfields in Iraq. The main beneficiary of our efforts there were the Chinese who ended up with contracts to purchase 80% of the Iraqi oil.

  37. DKnight007 Says:

    If the W’s draft Zeller or Drummond or any other Center with that pick at #7 it would be utterly stupid.

    There will be plenty big stiff backup Center types with their #30 pick and their two picks in Round 2.

    Get the best player available who has a chance to become a star with that #7 pick!

    Otherwise they should trade that #7 pick to Bulls for Luol Deng.

    Deng would pay immediate dividends for the W’s at the 3 spot. Deng is better than any other player they would pick at #7 as well!

  38. DKnight007 Says:

    Spurs or Lakers would have NEVER let Miami dictate tempo like OKC allowed the Heat to do in the finals.

    What a terrible series. OKC still too young.

  39. DKnight007 Says:

    Fremont Hooters was off the hook last night, even though the game sucked. Lots of eye candy up in that one! haha

  40. Raidernationdave Says:

    The problem is too much “debt” not enough money. Money represents debt.

    +++++++++++++++++++++

    Hardline Says:
    June 22nd, 2012 at 5:37 pm

    The problem is when the money quits flowing main street starves to death.

  41. Raidernationdave Says:

    One of the most iconic post here:

    ++++++++++++

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    June 22nd, 2012 at 4:54 pm

    Have sophisticated things to do, with sophisticated people.

    *************************

    Yup, Mums is about to throw in a TV dinner after she finishes off her 750ML of Old Crow

  42. morilla Says:

    The problem is Americas manufacturing infrastructure has been shipped overseas by corporations and fatcat billionaires. These folks who run this country vote for the right. Why? Because the right promises less regulation for their sacred cow called “capitalism”.

  43. Plunketthead Says:

    Gold is the money of kings
    Silver is the money of gentlemen
    Barter is the money of Peasants
    and Debt is the money of slaves

  44. Plunketthead Says:

    I am suprised more people do not take a serious look at what the Bible says.
    After all the predictions made over 2,000 years ago are coming true as we sit and blog

  45. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Need to move Social Security to a Defined Benefit plan, and you no longer have future obligations that are crippling our deficit.

    Obviously grandfather in people at some age, and then the US should send the Social Security plan out to bid.

    Nothing wrong with forcing people to save for retirement, so keep SS as a current payroll “tax”, just shift the obligation to the individual.

    Problem solved.

  46. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Defined “contribution”, excuse me.

    Getting a little lather going here pre-game (hiccup)

  47. DKnight007 Says:

    Morilla Says:
    June 22nd, 2012 at 6:03 pm
    The problem is Americas manufacturing infrastructure has been shipped overseas by corporations and fatcat billionaires. These folks who run this country vote for the right. Why? Because the right promises less regulation for their sacred cow called “capitalism”.

    ^^^^^^^^
    Exactly!

  48. DKnight007 Says:

    Good work Chris Cortez!

  49. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    JFB, saw your post about finally getting to watch the Lion game again – and your ‘quick hits’.

    Good stuff.

    Watching Hue trying to explain/justify not going for two was indeed comical.

    Sure you didn’t miss Stafford’s comment about the ‘whiff’.

    That was almost as funny.

    I’ll paraphrase -

    ‘All I had to do was get past big number 55, which is never easy to do’.

    Almost burst my spleen laughing at that one.

    Sure made it look easy.

    Hey, if you’re going to credit Slow for playing well in the first half and being instrumental in ‘turning it over’ in the 3rd quarter, I’m wondering how you could fail to comment on him failing to END the game when all that was required was a simple, unblocked tackle on the QB.

    No close, Slowlando McSnail.

  50. mcfadden20. Says:

    TIme for the Oakland A’s to get another sweep lets sweep those Midgets….

  51. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Rolando did make a nice tackle, right before the “Whiff” closing out on Pettigrew on a short pass and forcing the 4th and 3.

    Really, in the Lions game he looked inspired, at least for Slow, seemed to be invested in the game, hustled, didn’t miss tackles and really did not make any big mistakes other than that last play.

    Hue was the one who littered the field with mistakes. Not taking the 3 points earlier, not going for two, not running the ball down to the 2 minute warning our last drive.

  52. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Gosh darn it DirectTV, you are going to do me like this and not give me the option of listening to the Giants telecast?

    As if having 4 or 5 rum and cokes before the first pitch didn’t assure me of passing out before the 7th inning stretch, having to listen to Ray Fosse certainly will.

  53. Oakland Raiders Links That You’ll Want To See June 22, 2012 | Raiders Central | Oakland Raiders Blog Says:

    [...] Raiders assistant trainer Chris Cortez is a hero A great story emerged from a potentially tragic one Saturday when Raiders assistant trainer Chris Cortez helped pull a woman out of a sinking car in the Oakland estuary. Here’s a link to the story on our website, where we re-tell the story Cort… [...]

  54. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    The DHB fumble really hurt too.

    Palmer could have sealed the deal by hitting a wide open Schillens. Question Hue consistently trying to close games with pretty difficult completions late – but the play WAS there. Very poor toss by Palmer.

    On the second watch, also noticed that Boss had two successful receptions when the Raids were attempting to run it out.

    A game of missed opportunity that more than any other doomed the 2011 Raider season.

    Even after the GB and Miami debacles, it was STILL there for the taking.

    Sad.

  55. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    Sandusky GUILTY.

    Won’t last long in the joint.

  56. JB Says:

    Sandusky guilty on 45 of 48 counts. He’s going to spend the rest of his life in the slammer. Couldn’t be happening to a more deserving individual.

    He better get a lifetime supply of KY Jelly. He’s going to be needing it. Only problem for him is that he’s going to be on the receiving end. It will bring new meaning to the saying become a Man’s man. My guess, if he’s out on bail is that he will off himself as opposed to the jail sentence where he no doubt be abused on a daily basis. This guy deserves all he gets.

  57. R8ER MIKE Says:

    GOOD EVENING NATION!!!
    and my GreenParty brothers!!!!

  58. R8ER MIKE Says:

    UFC main event ready to start on FX

  59. jesusraiderjim Says:

    What up R8ER Mike. Glad Sandusky is off the street. Maybe he can get a cannibal for a cellie.

  60. R8ER MIKE Says:

    One can only hope Jim!!

  61. . Says:

    JB Says:
    June 22nd, 2012 at 7:27 pm
    Sandusky guilty on 45 of 48 counts. He’s going to spend the rest of his life in the slammer. Couldn’t be happening to a more deserving individual.

    He better get a lifetime supply of KY Jelly. He’s going to be needing it. Only problem for him is that he’s going to be on the receiving end. It will bring new meaning to the saying become a Man’s man. My guess, if he’s out on bail is that he will off himself as opposed to the jail sentence where he no doubt be abused on a daily basis. This guy deserves all he gets.
    **********************************************

    Maybe he’ll get a clearer picture of what an ass is really meant for.

  62. . Says:

    My guess is he’ll be cornholed so bad he’ll be walking with a limp.

  63. JB Says:

    Let him herewith be known as Mr. Cornholio. Thank you B&B for that label.

  64. . Says:

    ŸØ

  65. car wash dude Says:

    cars go in dirty, come out clean. breathtaking!

  66. ♪♫♪♫♪♫♪♫♪♫♪♫♪♫♪ Says:

    testing 1 2 3

  67. ♪♫♪♫♪♫♪♫♪♫♪♫♪♫♪ Says:

    Oh thats to funny!

  68. ☺☻☺☻☺☻☺☻ Says:

    testing 1 2 3 test

  69. ♫ Mr BoJangles ♫ Says:

    http://www.raiders.com/

  70. Raidernationdave Says:

    Classic post!

    +++++++++++++++++++++

    RAIDERMAN99 Says:
    June 22nd, 2012 at 6:35 pm

    JFB, saw your post about finally getting to watch the Lion game again – and your ‘quick hits’.

    Good stuff.

    Watching Hue trying to explain/justify not going for two was indeed comical.

    Sure you didn’t miss Stafford’s comment about the ‘whiff’.

    That was almost as funny.

    I’ll paraphrase -

    ‘All I had to do was get past big number 55, which is never easy to do’.

    Almost burst my spleen laughing at that one.

    Sure made it look easy.

    Hey, if you’re going to credit Slow for playing well in the first half and being instrumental in ‘turning it over’ in the 3rd quarter, I’m wondering how you could fail to comment on him failing to END the game when all that was required was a simple, unblocked tackle on the QB.

    No close, Slowlando McSnail.

  71. Plunketthead Says:

    Team-by-team cap space as of June 22
    Posted by Mike Florio on June 22, 2012, 8:02 PM EDT
    Jaguars: $25.1 million.

    Titans: $19.97 million.

    Eagles: $18.02 million.

    Browns: $17.7 million.

    Bengals: $16.58 million.

    Chiefs: $16.54 million.

    Buccaneers: $15.74 million.

    Colts: $14.59 million.

    Packers: $11.25 million.

    Patriots: $10.93 million.

    Broncos: $10.87 million.

    Vikings: $10.59 million.

    Panthers: $8.76 million.

    Seahawks: $7.47 million.

    Bills: $7.38 million.

    Cowboys: $7.18 million.

    Redskins: $6.97 million.

    Jets: $6.04 million.

    Cardinals: $4.55 million.

    Dolphins: $4.45 million.

    49ers: $4.19 million.

    Texans: $4.05 million.

    Bears: $3.97 million.

    Lions: $3.77 million.

    Rams: $3.60 million.

    Steelers: $3.58 million.

    Giants: $3.11 million.

    Chargers: $2.86 million.

    Falcons: $2.83 million.

    Saints: $2.27 million.

    Raiders: $1.34 million.

    Ravens: $606,000.

  72. raidertbone Says:

    Put Sandusky and O.J. in a cell together.

  73. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    I like to imagine that most of the regulars on this blog look like one of the characters from Trailer Park Boys.

  74. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    Plunketthead Says:
    June 23rd, 2012 at 4:38 am
    Team-by-team cap space as of June 22
    Posted by Mike Florio on June 22, 2012, 8:02 PM EDT
    Jaguars: $25.1 million.

    Titans: $19.97 million.

    Eagles: $18.02 million.

    Browns: $17.7 million.

    Bengals: $16.58 million.

    Chiefs: $16.54 million.

    Buccaneers: $15.74 million.

    Colts: $14.59 million.

    Packers: $11.25 million.

    Patriots: $10.93 million.

    Broncos: $10.87 million.

    Vikings: $10.59 million.

    Panthers: $8.76 million.

    Seahawks: $7.47 million.

    Bills: $7.38 million.

    Cowboys: $7.18 million.

    Redskins: $6.97 million.

    Jets: $6.04 million.

    Cardinals: $4.55 million.

    Dolphins: $4.45 million.

    49ers: $4.19 million.

    Texans: $4.05 million.

    Bears: $3.97 million.

    Lions: $3.77 million.

    Rams: $3.60 million.

    Steelers: $3.58 million.

    Giants: $3.11 million.

    Chargers: $2.86 million.

    Falcons: $2.83 million.

    Saints: $2.27 million.

    Raiders: $1.34 million.

    Ravens: $606,000.
    ——————-
    What is the date for teams to reach the cap “minimum”?
    Teams like the Jags still have a lot of $$ to spend.

  75. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    From Thursday’s Wall Street Journal,
    10 Brands that will disappear in 2013:

    8. The Oakland Raiders

    The Raiders will play in the NFL next year. They just will not play in Oakland. The team, founded in 1960, was one of the original members of the AFL and joined the NFL when the leagues merged in 1970. The Raiders won the Super Bowl in 1976, 1980 and 1983. The team’s track record has been poor over the past decade. The Raiders left Oakland once before, when the franchise worked out a better stadium deal in Los Angeles from 1983 to 1994. Oakland lured the team back with an agreement to add $220 million in improvements to the stadium where the team would play. One reason the team will leave Oakland again is the financial plans of the new owners. Al Davis had controlling ownership of the team from the 1960s until he died last year. His heirs and several smaller shareholders now control the team. Current team managing owner Mark Davis already has said he may move the Raiders back to LA to get a better stadium deal. The current Oakland stadium contract expires next year. Davis recently told the San Francisco Chronicle, “Yeah, Los Angeles is a possibility. Wherever’s a possibility. We need a stadium.”

  76. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Just to stir the pot. lol. Good Morning Raider Nation.

  77. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    By the way, coffee’s on me. By the way, how’s breakfast Jerry Sandusky. Hope they put you in the general population for 1 hour. That should be enough. Where’s Lorena Bobbitt when you need her.

  78. Bob Marley Says:

    Morning…

  79. ▌BREAKING NEWS ▌ Says:

    ► Chris Cortez is the man ◄

    [ sandusky better purchase a butt plug ]

    in other news: [it continues to rain in Seattle] [Seahawks considering logo name change to Seattle Soaked Rats]

    ███ code black ███

    :mrgreen:

  80. Just Fire Baby Says:

    1 down, 2 to go for some sweep action.

    Nice of the A’s closer to walk the two batters in the 9th inning. It is almost impossible to walk Pablo Sandoval, he will swing at pitches over his head, but they found a way.

  81. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Jaws had Carson as the #21 QB, today he did his feature on Hassleback at #18 (LOL at that, he won’t even start more than a handful of games if that) so I would imagine his piece on Carson is coming up in the next few days.

  82. TxRaider210 Says:

    Clay Guida should be banned from MMA, maybe all sports, for life after his cowardly performance last night!

  83. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I’d rather pay $65 to watch a boxing match, than watch a UFC “event” for free.

  84. RaiderSam Says:

    Exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
    June 23rd, 2012 at 6:29 am
    From Thursday’s Wall Street Journal,
    10 Brands that will disappear in 2013:

    8. The Oakland Raiders

    The Raiders will play in the NFL next year. They just will not play in Oakland. The team, founded in 1960, was one of the original members of the AFL and joined the NFL when the leagues merged in 1970. The Raiders won the Super Bowl in 1976, 1980 and 1983. The team’s track record has been poor over the past decade. The Raiders left Oakland once before, when the franchise worked out a better stadium deal in Los Angeles from 1983 to 1994. Oakland lured the team back with an agreement to add $220 million in improvements to the stadium where the team would play. One reason the team will leave Oakland again is the financial plans of the new owners. Al Davis had controlling ownership of the team from the 1960s until he died last year. His heirs and several smaller shareholders now control the team. Current team managing owner Mark Davis already has said he may move the Raiders back to LA to get a better stadium deal. The current Oakland stadium contract expires next year. Davis recently told the San Francisco Chronicle, “Yeah, Los Angeles is a possibility. Wherever’s a possibility. We need a stadium.”

    ====================================

    I will guarantee you that is a definite possibility. AEG has purchased the naming rights, only problem is the estate tax Mark has to pay, and the team is in Carol’s name, not Mark’s. That being said, his appearance at the Clippers playoff game should give people cause for more than a little concern…writing’s on the wall. Warriors gone, A’s possibly gone…but until GROUND IS BROKEN – NOTHING IS CERTAIN.

  85. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Most ideal situation is to have the stadium rebuilt right where they are it.

    However, the least ideal situation is to continue playing in a stadium that was a piece of crap in 1998.

    Something has to budge.

  86. TxRaider210 Says:

    I’d never pay a penny, especially for boxing, but it’s free ppv on the site I use either way.

  87. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Don’t support bootlegged business.

    That’s how you end up with China as the world’s largest economy.

  88. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Sometimes it is unavoidable of course, like trying to watch preseason games, lol.

    But knock-off golf clubs and things like that, it just pisses me off that so many people use that all to save a few bucks.

    Sorry wasn’t trying to lecture you 210. I always thought Guida was some crazy animal in the ring.

  89. TxRaider210 Says:

    Guida is a straight coward who wouldn’t fight last night. I’d gladly drop 20 lbs and throw with that weasel.lol

  90. TxRaider210 Says:

    It’s all good JFB, I only use bootleg schit cause a dude’s on a budget.lol

  91. Just Fire Baby Says:

    There is an SI piece ( a long one, 8 something pages) on the Albuquerque MMA training facility that I guess is top-notch.

    The only thing holding MMA back from going REALLY bigtime, is the lack of big rivaliries, IMO. Tough to create those in such a brutal sport, but until there is some type of “team” or matchups with some history behind them, it will never enter anywhere near the top 3 sports, and will be stuck trying to gain leverage over Hockey, Soccer and boxing.

  92. TxRaider210 Says:

    The Bears are such tards for not signing Forte. Bush is their new savior, please.lol

  93. TxRaider210 Says:

    Yeah man Albuquerque is big in MMA, lots of guys train there just like here in SA. The fighting schools here are popular and popping up everywhere, along with soccer fields all over the place. You ever watched the Motocross over in Moriarty JFB?

  94. Just Fire Baby Says:

    People watch Raiders-Chiefs, no matter if both teams stink, because there is a huge rivalry and history there. We play every year and have memories of great games between the two in the past.

    Superstars bring in the casual fan. Most watched NFL games are those with Brady or Peyton in them (or strangely last year with Tebow).

    Who is the superstar and who are the rivals in MMA?

    Boxing has two superstars left (Manny and Money) and once they hang them up, boxing might just cease to exist.

  95. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Nope on the Motocross.

    I watched the Nascar race in Vegas once, and that’s about it for my experience in live events for things with engines.

  96. YoungAmerican Says:

    Not sure if anyone has posted this yet, but here’s a good write-up on Tyvon Branch v.s. Rob Gronkowski:

    http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/06/23/countering-the-trend-how-branch-shut-down-gronkowski/

  97. Just Fire Baby Says:

    YA!!!!

    Where you been at man? AFter logging in the long hours for the draft, you just high-tail it out of town, lol

  98. TxRaider210 Says:

    Lol Just asking man, I broke a few bones out there. Raced mx from about 92-97 and went there from EP each month or so.

  99. YoungAmerican Says:

    Haha my laptop took a s***, my job starting moving my hours around, and then I went to NYC for a week. So between all that I’ve been scarce around here.

    Plus this is the slow point in the year, so I’ve been trying to curb my addiction to this place. But I should be coming around more frequently again soon.

    How y’all been? What did I miss?

  100. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Racing those things had to be hot as hell in the summer!!!

  101. Just Fire Baby Says:

    What did I miss?

    **************************

    Nothing, lol.

    The daily gyrations that make this place a necesary evil for some of us.

  102. TxRaider210 Says:

    Yep it sure is, and cold in the winter.lol

  103. Just Fire Baby Says:

    The Pats game was very winnable, IMO, but the moment got too big for Soup and he shat the bed.

    I got much more confidence in Carson trying to stand and trade blows with some top-flight teams than Soup’s pissing myself demeanor in the same situations.

  104. YoungAmerican Says:

    JC’s picks in that game were absolute back-breakers. One was a severely underthrown ball that he claims he meant to throw out the back of the endzone… that killed a sure scoring drive. Then the pick to Wilfork was just bewildering. JC had some good games as a Raider, but that sure wasn’t one of them.

  105. Just Fire Baby Says:

    JC had some good games as a Raider, but that sure wasn’t one of them.

    ****************************

    He played great against the AFC West, the Jets and Seattle, but other than that he had mostly stinkers.

  106. Plunketthead Says:

    I watched the fight but not the decision. I take it Clay won?

    If opie wanted to fight so bad, why didnt he take Clay down when he figured out he was never gonna hit Clay with his slow hands.

  107. TxRaider210 Says:

    He kneed Clay at the end and had more cage aggression the whole fight. Seemed he didn’t want to engage and lost fair and square.imo

  108. TxRaider210 Says:

    So now that Ochocinco is engaged, will he change his name back so his wife doesn’t get that corny azz name?

  109. TxRaider210 Says:

    That UFC fight was one of the worst I’ve ever seen. One guy dancing around like a boxer doing jack, and the other wanting to fight and square up. The ref should have made Guida fight after the 1st round, but waited til the last minute to warn him.

  110. TxRaider210 Says:

    If I’d had paid to see it in person, I’d have demanded a refund. Then probably arrested or tased and kicked out.lol

  111. Raidernationdave Says:

    Espana beyotches!

  112. Raidernationdave Says:

    Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than Front Row.

    http://www.vipbox.tv/

  113. Raidernationdave Says:

    Got my smoked salmon with a bottle of genuine horseradish and my computer and my phone. Ready to ride the Korean metal machine!

  114. Plunketthead Says:

    YA nice post

  115. TxRaider210 Says:

    Schit Dave you da Man! Never used that one before.

  116. Raidernationdave Says:

    Once ya get the popups that come up first knocked down it’s smooth sailin’

  117. Raidernationdave Says:

    Now ya just need some salmon and horseradish Tx!

  118. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    He played great against the AFC West, the Jets and Seattle, but other than that he had mostly stinkers.
    ===========================================
    ‘Great’ is an overstatement. ‘Stinkers’ is an understatement.

    At his best, Jason was a capable game manager that avoided turnovers and wouldn’t lose the game for you. But if you were looking for Jason to carry the team, forget about it.

    At his worst, his play was was unwatchable.

    His debut against Tenn was embarrassing.

    Followed by the unbelievably poor effort against the Rams which got him benched.

    Pissed his pants against the Steelers.

    Couldn’t have been worse against the Niners.

    We’re talking off the charts lousy.

    JFB, I know you hate Huey – but there is one thing that Hue got right.

    He knew the Raids had to move past Jason.

    Credit Campbell for at least being a dedicated professional and a good teammate. It was Campbell’s presence that allowed the Raids to kick JaMoron to the curb.

    For that we should be grateful, but the truth is he’s a lousy QB. Jason knows his limitations. He didn’t evolve into ‘Captain Checkdown’ by accident. That’s who Jason is. Which is why he was content to immediately grab Chicago’s offer to hold a clipboard.

  119. Seymour Bush Says:

    YoungAmerican Says:
    June 23rd, 2012 at 10:08 am

    How y’all been? What did I miss?
    ==================================

    From Yesterday:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    June 22nd, 2012 at 4:09 pm

    For those of you just getting here, how’s about some highlights???
    =================================================
    Method To My Madness Says: Kell your woman is white and you call me a TOM?

    Sullivan44 Says: A wigger hurts no one.

    KoolKell Says: You’re an ignorant dumbass.

    Method To My Madness Says: Nice response DichNose…now clean the cum out of your snosauge

    Sullivan44 Says: Plunkethead, tell us about your spying on your kid while trimmed his pubes.

    KoolKell Says: You’re the one frontin on the blog ALL DAY, you Uncle Tom, Pos.
    ==================================

    This about how the last five weeks have gone.

  120. TxRaider210 Says:

    Dave I’ll eat salmon until I can’t move bro, luv that stuff!

  121. YoungAmerican Says:

    Great recap, SB.

  122. TxRaider210 Says:

    I think I’ll head to the Pub about a block away and have some margaritas on the cheap. They only charged me 1.50/ea last week and strong as schit!lol

  123. ohioraider Says:

    Raidernationdave Says:
    June 22nd, 2012 at 5:25 pm

    Real Men Were Black!
    ————————————————–
    Interesting historical theory. Very Afro-Centric and quite provocative if I may say so.

  124. TxRaider210 Says:

    121
    That recap was only a small highlight reel, it got pretty hairy at times.lol

  125. Plunketthead Says:

    Thats no fair repeating MR’s lie about me being a pube spy.

  126. Plunketthead Says:

    Afterall, I dont give you a hard time. Just MR and the old fish eyed bigot.

    And LMN a little bit, speaking of the danish devil, he must still be in the pschyco ward after the thumpings Denmark got

  127. TxRaider210 Says:

    Plunketthead
    Will you wait until we win the division to post under Palmerhead?lol

  128. Plunketthead Says:

    So time for some Soccer Ambassador duties.
    When they swap shirts after the match, what is done with the shirts?
    Do they take them home and frame them on the wall like big game hunters?

  129. Plunketthead Says:

    TX I already changed my name once after my boy Andrew was ate up by the NFL, so I better stay as Plunkhead but I have no doubts that CP will tear it up. Top ten QB, maybe pro bowler if the WR’s ball hard all year

  130. Raidernationdave Says:

    You’re a tool so why should I be surprised?

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++

    ohioraider Says:
    June 23rd, 2012 at 11:38 am

    Raidernationdave Says:
    June 22nd, 2012 at 5:25 pm

    Real Men Were Black!
    ————————————————–
    Interesting historical theory. Very Afro-Centric and quite provocative if I may say so.

  131. Plunketthead Says:

    Escargot 5
    Worlds greatest gold thieves 1

  132. Plunketthead Says:

    Opps that should have been the other way around

  133. TxRaider210 Says:

    Plunketthead Says:
    June 23rd, 2012 at 11:48 am
    TX I already changed my name once after my boy Andrew was ate up by the NFL, so I better stay as Plunkhead but I have no doubts that CP will tear it up. Top ten QB, maybe pro bowler if the WR’s ball hard all year
    —————-
    I’m hoping for top 10, he has the ability and should have some chemistry with the route running of these guys. Many people seem to agree that the culture change from the top should help the team a lot.

  134. Plunketthead Says:

    Lets talk about goalies.
    I take it they are able to wear whatever getup they want. Why is that?

    Sometimes they run up and kick the ball and other times they pick itup, run around and dropkick the ball.
    Cant they make up their minds and just do which ever goes the furthest?

  135. TxRaider210 Says:

    Should be more fun to punt the schit out of the ball. Guess some of their targets are covered..idk jack about soccer.

  136. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    Soccer is a great cure for insomnia.

  137. Plunketthead Says:

    CP will really shine now that he is away from the bungles. The Bungles are right there with the browns,lions,cowpiles and others as far as dysfunctional franchises go.

    Hard to believe dumber by the day sports talking heads are picking us for last.

    This is the year the chicken chockers take a huge fall. All new WR’s and a shaky oline combined with a so so D and terrible special teams and NORV = last place

    unless the milelow mules wrestle them out of it.
    They were headed to a top 5 pick in the draft before Tebow caught fire. Look for Peyton’s skills to have diminshed and working with a new Oline combine for bad news

    Its the fat red army and us and the squaws may win 9 games.
    We win 10 and CP leads us to the AFC Title

    Best year ever

  138. Plunketthead Says:

    I hear Vegas use to play semi pro soccer. :smile: maybe he can answer

  139. SR Raider Says:

    I think they give you a badge if you can stay awake for a whole soccer match

  140. Raider Riff Says:

    Raiders assistant saves woman? Nice story.

    I cant wait to here how the Raider-hating media try and spin it in a negative fashion. Cue ESPN and Peter King.

  141. raiderfankirk Says:

    I read all the time and post very few times. It’s sad the three dic faces ( Masterbater, Mr, and kkk kell) . My suggestion is if you all must reply to them simply as ” stfu dic face “

  142. raiderfankirk Says:

    * goat you all in.

  143. ▌BREAKING NEWS ▌ Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    June 23rd, 2012 at 11:32 am
    YoungAmerican Says:
    June 23rd, 2012 at 10:08 am

    How y’all been? What did I miss?
    ==================================

    From Yesterday:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    June 22nd, 2012 at 4:09 pm

    For those of you just getting here, how’s about some highlights???
    =================================================
    Method To My Madness Says: Kell your woman is white and you call me a TOM?

    Sullivan44 Says: A wigger hurts no one.

    KoolKell Says: You’re an ignorant dumbass.

    Method To My Madness Says: Nice response DichNose…now clean the cum out of your snosauge

    Sullivan44 Says: Plunkethead, tell us about your spying on your kid while trimmed his pubes.

    KoolKell Says: You’re the one frontin on the blog ALL DAY, you Uncle Tom, Pos.
    ==================================

    This about how the last five weeks have gone
    llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

    :lol:
    :lol:
    :lol: :P :P :P :D :lol: :lol: :shock: :lol:

  144. ▌BREAKING NEWS ▌ Says:

    raiderfankirk Says:
    June 23rd, 2012 at 12:58 pm
    I read all the time and post very few times. It’s sad the three dic faces ( Masterbater, Mr, and kkk kell) . My suggestion is if you all must reply to them simply as ” stfu dic face “
    lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

    :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

  145. raiderfankirk Says:

    LMFAO. I know. No response to dic faces is got to be the best way. Responding if one must, needs not recognize anything they say.

  146. alf_capone Says:

    why is soccer being brought up on a raiders blog? lets talk about justin bieber next

  147. alf_capone Says:

    i forgot to ask why the giants and dodgers suck. padres suck too. love my raiders tho

  148. Plunketthead Says:

    Tomorrow is the game I have been waiting for.
    Vegas, you wanna make a side bet? Something to make the game interesting

    I will bet a hundred dollars and if I win then I will give you many chances at double or nothing but the double up bet will get tougher and tougher.

    Thats how I roll,,,, on the internets

  149. Plunketthead Says:

    Rolando McClain continues to be on the receiving end of high praise from his teammates for his on-field acumen.

    Even as the middle linebacker’s future in Oakland is murky in the wake of his being convicted last month of third-degree assault, menacing, discharging a handgun in city limits and reckless endangerment, with his 180-day sentence under appeal.

    “Rolando, man, he’s the biggest linebacker that can move as fast as he can,” new Raiders strongside linebacker Philip Wheeler said following Wednesday’s OTA practice. “I’ve never seen anybody that big, that can run that fast and move how he moves. He moves almost like me and he’s like maybe 20 pounds heavier than me, I don’t know.”

    Fellow linebackers Travis Goethel and Miles Burris have also spoken about McClain’s on-field ethic.

    “He’s amazing, man,” Wheeler said. “I’m looking forward to seeing him on the film after the game, watching him play, too.”

    Listed at 6-foot-2 and 240 pounds, Wheeler signed with the Raiders as a free agent on March 30 after four years in Indianapolis. He also praised McClain for his work in the film room, even if McClain’s on-field play has been spotty in his first two NFL seasons.

    Scheme? Injury? One thing that has never been questioned, though, is McClain’s film work.

    “Yeah, man,” Wheeler said. “Once we put a defense in, he has it. I don’t know how he does it. He catches on very quickly. He helps us out on the field and I think he’s growing, man….I think he’s growing a lot.”

    And according to Wheeler, McClain’s off-field issues have not had a negative effect on him thus far in the offseason. Of course, McClain missed the first week of OTA’s as he was back in Alabama preparing for his court case.

    “Once he’s on the field, it’s like it’s his sanctuary, some people say that,” Wheeler said. “And I think that’s how it applies to him. I think he just blocks everything out and plays football and it’s working for him.”

    At least, until he either goes to a jury trial and/or NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell issues a suspension.

  150. Raidernationdave Says:

    Spain beyotches!

  151. Plunketthead Says:

    New Raiders general manager Reggie McKenzie had a gameplan in mind when Mark Davis hired him to completely take over the team’s football operations.

    So after a voluntary veterans minicamp, the draft, a rookie minicamp, three weeks of OTAs and a mandatory minicamp and with 89 of the 90 roster spots spoken for, where are the Raiders in McKenzie’s mind?

    “I personally think we’re further along than I thought we would (be),” McKenzie said in an intimate 31-minute roundtable discussion with a handful of beat reporters Thursday. “I knew they were going to throw in a lot on both sides of the ball. But it was good to see things going right a whole lot more than wrong, as far as coaches yelling and screaming, running a play over and over again. Every day you didn’t hear a lot of that. That’s a good indication that players are getting it and coaches are coaching it.

    “But hopefully, (come) training camp they digest it even more and we become more complete. It’s still Year One. I don’t think we’re looking for a situation where players are going to act like they’ve been here for five years in one system, playing with each other and they know each other like the back of their hand. I don’t see that, but I do see guys working very well together and getting it right. I feel good about it.”

    McKenzie also oversaw the Raiders update their in-house computer systems — software and hardware — to accommodate his restructured scouting staff.

    “It made it more conducive,” McKenzie said. “It was needed. It was to definitely improve not only the team concept of what we’re trying to get done, but the efficiency in getting it done and trying to get it done right. It aided in that. Yes, it was needed.”

    As was McKenzie getting those ubiquitous “out-of-whack” contracts under control.

    “Yes, we don’t want to continue to be in cap jail forever,” McKenzie said. “So yeah, the plan was to improve our outlook for the future.”

    McKenzie was also asked about other topics…

    On if there has been any progress on securing a long-term deal with the franchise-tagged strong safety Tyvon Branch: “It’s been good communication. Nobody’s slamming the phone on each other, so that’s positive.”

    On his overall impressions of project quarterback Terrelle Pryor: “You know, that’s one thing that jumps out. The guy wants to be good. And he wants to do well, he wants to play. So his effort and how he’s going about his business has been great. Now, he’s improved with his technique and his fundamentals and all the little idiosyncrasies of what they want from a quarterback, he’s improved since April when they first got him on the field. So they’ve seen some progress there. Now it’s going to be up to him to dive into that playbook and know it when he comes back and so he don’t have to think plays, technique work, and you know, it’s a whole going through his style of quarterback. His history has not been as indepth as the other guys so he’s learning the whole gamut. I’m ecstatic on how he’s going about his business here. But time will tell when we put him in preseason games. See how he does.”

    On if the newness of the situation has started to dwindle because since 1963 the organization has had one name, one face associated with it, and now McKenzie is in charge: “The newness has started to dwindle, but every day is something, and I think that’s going to be for a little while, at least into the season because what you just said, things have been done a certain way for so long. It’s just the way it is. Still, stuff with the building, trying to adjust. To me, changes are going to continue to be made through this time next year because you can’t build Rome overnight, so certain things will stay status quo until we can jump on it during the offseason. But yes, it’s starting to sink in, but there’s still stuff that goes on daily that needs to be addressed.”

    On free safety Michael Huff’s quote that the Raiders will be playing in a “real” defense in the wake of Davis’ death: “It was important for me — I’m a defensive-minded person — but going out to specifically say I’m going to hire a defensive coach, was not the case. But going out wanting to make sure I interviewed defensive coaches and hopefully liking one, I really wanted that. Because I really, truly believe defense wins championships. But, you know, to Huff’s quote, I do think we’ve got some real defensive coaches, a real coordinator. I’m glad he feels that way that we got some good coaches and we’ve got a good defense. I’m kind of anxious to see it play itself out in games, but more importantly I’m anxious to see how the players respond and play within that scheme.”

  152. Plunketthead Says:

    I hear they make a wonderful sangria as well as a nifty tomato soup

  153. Plunketthead Says:

    Quarterback Carson Palmer, playing on the other side of the field, sees from his vantage point that the 2012 Raiders defense under coach Dennis Allen and defensive coordinator Jason Tarver is an entirely different animal.

    The days of predominantly four-man rush with infrequent blitzing and almost exclusively man-to-man coverage are over.

    “Our defense has everything—every possible coverage, every alignment,” Palmer said. “It’s (difficult just getting to know our offense and how to execute against every look in the book, every look you could possibly see from every defense in the entire NFL. Our defense does a lot.”

    Defensive end Dave Tollefson wasn’t involved in the Raiders’ record-setting penalty season, setting NFL marks for both penalties and yards penalized.

    But there is no mistaking the way the Allen’s staff is dealing with the issue—right down to using slides as a visual aide.

    “To give it lip service doesn’t do it justice,” Tollefson said. “The number of penalties this team had was unreal. To go 8-8 on top of that, it’s kind of impressive.”

    Fullback Owen Schmitt has been getting first-team reps as late arrival Marcel Reece, who waited to sign his exclusive rights tender, gets up to speed on the new offensive system.

    Reece has unique skills in that he is a 6-2, 250 pound player with the skills of a wide receiver, making him adept at helping to create mismatches. Schmitt is more of a conventional throwback style of fullback.

    “I’m a people mover. That’s what I do best,” Schmitt said. “I don’t know what they have in mind for me, but I think maybe I could do like a third-down blocking type thing and maybe a short-yardage deal. Who knows?”

    Schmitt said he learned from his grandfather a long time ago how he could become an important player.

    “He said, `If you want to be a football player, you’ve got to learn to block first. That’s 100 percent of the game,’” Schmitt said. “When you’re young, you’re like, `Man, I don’t want to block, I want to run the ball.’ Then you realize you’re not the fastest guy out there and you’ve got to become good at something else.”

    Shane Lechler, the Raiders’ punter since 2000, is used to a lot of turnover, having played for the Jon Gruden, Bill Callahan, Norv Turner, Art Shell, Tom Cable and Hue Jackson coaching staffs.

    But even he sees this season as extreme.

    “I don’t know if I’ve ever been around this much turnover as much as staff and players,” Lechler said. “From what I see it looks like everything is running pretty smooth and up-tempo. I’ve been through different coaching staffs. This one has a different vibe than all of them.”

    Tight end Brandon Myers has checked the stats, and he realizes his position will be much more of a factor under Greg Knapp than it was under Hue Jackson.

    Knapp’s offense utilizes tight ends—sometimes two or three at a time—on schemes that include lots of bootlegs and passes to the position.

    “It’s different. We were kind of non-existent last year,” Myers said. “You look at the track record with Houston and previous places coach has been, tight ends are a focal point of the schemes on the outside of the nakeds and stuff like that. It’s on us to make plays for them and trust us on third down to make those plays.”

    Quote To Note:

    “You never want to be pigeonholed as a lineman, a writer, or anything else. But I do like the zone scheme. I’m comfortable with it. I think the production speaks for itself in the zone and I’m very familiar with it.”

    —Raiders guard Cooper Carlisle, who for the last two years played in schemes other than zone blocking for the first time in his career.

  154. Plunketthead Says:

    The Raiders adjourned following their mandatory minicamp with everyone saying the right things about the new direction of the franchise under general manager Reggie McKenzie and coach Dennis Allen.

    Except for unsupervised voluntary weight workouts and those who are rehabbing injuries, their Harbor Bay Parkway complex in Alameda will be a ghost town when it comes to players, who won’t be together again until they report to training camp in Napa on July 29 with the first practice the next morning.

    “It’s always an ongoing process, but for the most part we’ve installed who we are and what we are,” Allen said.

    Although Allen said things are proceeding according to schedule, McKenzie was pleasantly surprised with the progress.

    “I personally think we’re farther along than I thought we would be,” McKenzie said. “I knew they were going to throw a lot at them on both sides of the ball. But was good to see things going right a lot more than wrong as far as coaches yelling, screaming and running a play over again.

    “There wasn’t a lot of that. That’s a good indication that the players are getting it and the coaches are coaching it.”

    McKenzie stressed that the Raiders have a long way to go, but he likes the road they’re on.

    “I don’t think you’re looking for a situation where players are going to act like they’ve been five years in one system, playing with each other and knowing each other like the back of their hand,” McKenzie said. “But I do see guys working very well together and getting it right.”

    For quarterback Carson Palmer, it’s been exhilarating to assume control of an entirely new system of offense — particularly since last year’s chaotic trade that thrust him from the couch into the starting lineup after Jason Campbell went down with a broken collarbone.

    “It’s a completely new offense, there’s really no similarities to anything I’ve done before, but I love all the boots and play-actions and the nakeds and the keepers,” Palmer said. “I’m excited to do that, and all those things are really going to help the running game, and the more we move the chains, the better everyone else is on th team.”

    Like McKenzie, Palmer considers the Raiders ahead of schedule.

    “I can’t wait for camp,” Palmer said. “We got a lot of good work in, and you never know what to expect as you’re coming out of minicamps and OTAs. I can’t speak for everybody, but I’m definitely pleasantly surprised with where we are.”
    Quarterback Carson Palmer, playing on the other side of the field, sees from his vantage point that the 2012 Raiders defense under coach Dennis Allen and defensive coordinator Jason Tarver is an entirely different animal.

    The days of predominantly four-man rush with infrequent blitzing and almost exclusively man-to-man coverage are over.

    “Our defense has everything—every possible coverage, every alignment,” Palmer said. “It’s (difficult just getting to know our offense and how to execute against every look in the book, every look you could possibly see from every defense in the entire NFL. Our defense does a lot.”

    Defensive end Dave Tollefson wasn’t involved in the Raiders’ record-setting penalty season, setting NFL marks for both penalties and yards penalized.

    But there is no mistaking the way the Allen’s staff is dealing with the issue—right down to using slides as a visual aide.

    “To give it lip service doesn’t do it justice,” Tollefson said. “The number of penalties this team had was unreal. To go 8-8 on top of that, it’s kind of impressive.”

    Fullback Owen Schmitt has been getting first-team reps as late arrival Marcel Reece, who waited to sign his exclusive rights tender, gets up to speed on the new offensive system.

    Reece has unique skills in that he is a 6-2, 250 pound player with the skills of a wide receiver, making him adept at helping to create mismatches. Schmitt is more of a conventional throwback style of fullback.

    “I’m a people mover. That’s what I do best,” Schmitt said. “I don’t know what they have in mind for me, but I think maybe I could do like a third-down blocking type thing and maybe a short-yardage deal. Who knows?”

    Schmitt said he learned from his grandfather a long time ago how he could become an important player.

    “He said, `If you want to be a football player, you’ve got to learn to block first. That’s 100 percent of the game,’” Schmitt said. “When you’re young, you’re like, `Man, I don’t want to block, I want to run the ball.’ Then you realize you’re not the fastest guy out there and you’ve got to become good at something else.”

    Shane Lechler, the Raiders’ punter since 2000, is used to a lot of turnover, having played for the Jon Gruden, Bill Callahan, Norv Turner, Art Shell, Tom Cable and Hue Jackson coaching staffs.

    But even he sees this season as extreme.

    “I don’t know if I’ve ever been around this much turnover as much as staff and players,” Lechler said. “From what I see it looks like everything is running pretty smooth and up-tempo. I’ve been through different coaching staffs. This one has a different vibe than all of them.”

    Tight end Brandon Myers has checked the stats, and he realizes his position will be much more of a factor under Greg Knapp than it was under Hue Jackson.

    Knapp’s offense utilizes tight ends—sometimes two or three at a time—on schemes that include lots of bootlegs and passes to the position.

    “It’s different. We were kind of non-existent last year,” Myers said. “You look at the track record with Houston and previous places coach has been, tight ends are a focal point of the schemes on the outside of the nakeds and stuff like that. It’s on us to make plays for them and trust us on third down to make those plays.”

    Quote To Note:

    “You never want to be pigeonholed as a lineman, a writer, or anything else. But I do like the zone scheme. I’m comfortable with it. I think the production speaks for itself in the zone and I’m very familiar with it.”

    —Raiders guard Cooper Carlisle, who for the last two years played in schemes other than zone blocking for the first time in his career. Interesting to note there was no variation in terms of the offensive first-team offensive line from the first OTA through the mandatory minicamp.

    The Raiders lined up with Jared Veldheer at left tackle, Cooper Carlisle at left guard, Alex Parsons at center, Mike Brisiel at right guard and Khalif Barnes at right tackle at every practice except when Brisiel missed time with a hamstring strain.

    Parsons will be moved aside in favor of Stefen Wisniewski, a left guard last season, when training camp begins. It does afford Parsons, however, the chance of making the 53-man roster as he is currently the lone backup center.

    The two players most likely to have a chance to compete for a starting spot when camp begins are rookie third-round pick Tony Bergstrom at Carlisle’s left guard spot and second-year player Joe Barksdale at right tackle against Barnes.

    Medical Watch

    WR Denarius Moore suffered a right hamstring strain and missed the last two days of the mandatory minicamp. He is expected to return for training camp.

    DT Travis Ivey sustained a concussion during a weight lifting session when his head hit the bar and missed time during the mandatory minicamp. He is expected to return for training camp.

    SS Mike Mitchell did not participate in the mandatory minicamp while rehabbing a knee injury but is expected back for training camp.

    C Stefen Wisniewski did not participate in the mandatory minicamp or OTAs while rehabbing following shoulder surgery but is expected back for training camp.

    FB Manase Tonga missed OTAs and mandatory minicamp following a knee procedure, but is expected to return for training camp where competition will be fierce with Owen Schmitt and Marcel Reece.

    LB Aaron Curry practiced on the first day of the mandatory minicamp then sat out the next two with sore knees as a precautionary measure, according to coach Dennis Allen.

    TE Brandon Myers missed the last minicamp practice with a hamstring strain and is expected back by training camp.

    WR Eddie McGee missed the last hamstring pull with a hamstring strain and is expected back for training camp.

  155. Plunketthead Says:

    Franchise Player:

    FS Tyvon Branch (tendered at $6.212 million; signed May 7).

    Transition Player:

    None.

    Unrestricted Free Agents

    (not tendered offers)

    LB Darryl Blackstock (not tendered as UFA).

    QB Kyle Boller (not tendered as UFA).

    SS Jerome Boyd (not tendered as ERFA).

    WR T.J. Housmandzadeh (not tendered as UFA).

    DE Jarvis Moss (not tendered as UFA).

    CB Lito Sheppard (not tendered as UFA).

    Restricted Free Agents:

    None.

    Exclusive Rights Free Agents:

    None.

    Draft Choices Signed

    LB Miles Burris (4/129): 4 yrs, terms unknown.

    DE Jack Crawford (5/158): 4 yrs, terms unknown.

    DT Christo Bilukidi (6/189): 4 yrs, terms unknown.

    LB Nathan Stupar (7/230): 4 yrs, terms unknown.

    Players Re-signed

    OT Khalif Barnes: UFA; $2M/1 yr.

    S Tyvon Branch: Franchise FA; $6.212M/ 1 yr.

    DT Desmond Bryant: RFA tendered at $1.927M with second-round pick as compensation; $1.927M/1 yr.

    OG Cooper Carlisle: FA; (had been released by Raiders); 1 yr, terms unknown).

    S Matt Giordano: UFA; terms unknown.

    CB Bryan McCann: ERFA; terms unknown.

    FB Marcel Reece: ERFA; $540,000/1 yr.

    Players Acquired

    CB Ron Bartell: FA Rams; $3M/1 yr.

    QB Rhett Bomar: FA; terms unknown; subsequently released.

    OG Mike Brisiel: UFA Texans; $20M/5 yrs.

    RB Mike Goodson (trade Panthers).

    TE Tory Humphrey: Not tendered as UFA by Saints; $615,000/1 yr.

    CB Pat Lee: UFA Packers; 1 yr, terms unknown.

    QB Matt Leinart: FA Texans; terms unknown.

    FB Owen Schmitt: UFA Eagles; terms unknown.

    CB Shawntae Spencer: FA 49ers; 1 yr, terms unknown.

    DE Dave Tollefson: UFA Giants; $2.4M/2 yrs, $1.25M guaranteed.

    CB Brandon Underwood: FA; terms unknown.

    OT Ed Wang: FA; terms unknown.

    LB Philip Wheeler: UFA Colts; 1 yr, terms unknown.

    Players Lost

    TE Kevin Boss (released/post-June 1 designation).

    RB Michael Bush: UFA Bears; $14M/4 yrs, $7M guaranteed.

    G/T Bruce Campbell (traded Raiders).

    QB Jason Campbell: UFA Bears; $3.5M/1 yr, $2M SB.

    RB Rock Cartwright: UFA 49ers; 1 yr, terms unknown.

    S Hiram Eugene (released (failed physical).

    LB Quentin Groves: UFA Cardinals; terms unknown.

    DT John Henderson (released/failed physical).

    OT Stephon Heyer: UFA Jets; $700,000/1 yr.

    CB Chris Johnson (released).

    RB James McCluskey (released).

    CB Stanford Routt (released)

    C Samson Satele: UFA Colts; $10.8/3 yrs, $5M guaranteed.

    WR Chaz Schilens: UFA Jets; $765,000/1 yr, $500,000 guaranteed.

    DL Trevor Scott: UFA Patriots; $1.150M/1 yr, $250,000 SB.

    LB Kamerion Wimbley (released).

  156. Plunketthead Says:

    LT rubbing it in, I guess he earned the right to do it.

    Shortly after signing a ceremonial contract with the Chargers and announcing his retirement in San Diego, LaDainian Tomlinson has revealed that he also considered signing an actual contract with the Broncos and playing this season in Denver.

    Tomlinson told U-T San Diego that he had offers to keep playing if he had wanted to this season, and that the one offer that appealed to him was playing for the Broncos, where he could have been teammates with Peyton Manning.

    “The only team I really gave a thought to was the Broncos, because of Peyton,” Tomlinson said. “We talked. . . . It made me pause a little (and think), ‘Was this what I really want to do?’ … I said, ‘They got Peyton, they have a good defense already; they went deep in the playoffs with Tim Tebow, what are they going to do with Peyton?’ I seriously thought about it.”

    Chargers fans surely wouldn’t have enjoyed the sight of Tomlinson in an orange uniform, playing against the Chargers twice a season. Tomlinson said that was one of the things he considered when he decided to retire as a Charger rather than keep playing — he couldn’t picture himself in orange, or in silver and black, for that matter.

    “At the end of the day I was thinking, ‘I can’t do that,’” Tomlinson said. “It’s not as bad as being a Raider — but almost.”

    Seeing Tomlinson in a Raiders uniform would have been a strange sight. Almost as strange as seeing Manning in a Broncos uniform.

  157. alf_capone Says:

    “At the end of the day I was thinking, ‘I can’t do that,’” Tomlinson said. “It’s not as bad as being a Raider — but almost.”

    reggie jackson said they dont boo nobodies. raiders are the most hated in the division because we are historically the best in the division.

  158. Plunketthead Says:

    General Manager Reggie McKenzie spoke to the Rotary Club of Oakland during its weekly Thursday afternoon lunch meeting in Oakland, Calif. Members of the Raiders staff, including Chief Executive Amy Trask, were also in attendance. “We were delighted to participate in the Oakland Rotary luncheon – we always enjoy opportunities to interact with Oakland businesses and to support the community,” said Trask.

    According to the Rotary Club of Oakland website, the club “is a diverse service club of over 340 professionals, businesspersons, and other community leaders dedicated to fighting hunger and disease, and promoting health, education and other humanitarian causes in Oakland and around the world.”

    Current Rotary Club of Oakland president Lornia Padia Markus described the Rotary Club in more detail. “Rotary International is a membership of 1.2 million people across the world,” said Padia Markus. “It’s 106 years old and it’s two-fold – One, is we do community service throughout the world. One of our biggest initiatives is eradicating polio. It’s also a collaboration of civic, business and non-profit organizations to work together to network, to improve their leadership qualities and to have opportunities to really be leaders in the community.”

    The weekly meetings often have special guests and Rotary Club of Oakland was excited to have McKenzie as their guest speaker. “This was awesome,” said Rotary member Luther Jessie, who invited McKenzie to the meeting. “I mean, how many times do you get the general manager of any sports franchise to come and speak to you or to your organization? I think it’s just a wonderful thing.”

    Padia Markus also recognized the significance of having McKenzie visit the club. “It was tremendous,” said Padia Markus. “This is Oakland so having Reggie here as a speaker today really validates the connections that we have in the community in Oakland. There’s a ton of Oakland Raiders fans in the room.”

    McKenzie was happy to come out and meet the Rotary members and have a chance to speak about the progress of the Raiders. “It was a great time for me to come out,” said McKenzie. “I just talked to these guys about being out in the community and also a little bit about the Oakland Raiders.”

    McKenzie also shared his vision for the team.” We feel like we’ve made great strides in our personnel department as far as the players on the field,” McKenzie explained. “We feel good about the outlook of this team as well as this organization. I want to talk to you about our vision. Mr. Davis had a vision to win Super Bowls. He won three. That goal will not change. Winning is everything and we’re going to do everything in our power to get that thing done. We want to bring the trophy back to Oakland.”

    The new Raiders general manager finished his talk with a message for the members. “Get on board right now because we’re going places as a team,” said McKenzie. “So please continue to root for the Raiders because we will be worth rooting for this year.”

    McKenzie left the meeting encouraged by his time spent with the Rotary Club. “The one thing I found out is this Rotary Club loves the Oakland Raiders and they support us,” said McKenzie.

  159. Raidernationdave Says:

    hey also play some sick ass futbol Plunk!

    +++++++++++++++++++++++

    Plunketthead Says:
    June 23rd, 2012 at 2:43 pm

    I hear they make a wonderful sangria as well as a nifty tomato soup

  160. ▌BREAKING NEWS ▌ Says:

    [NFL's butt ugliest uniforms]

    Seahawks
    Ravens
    Broncos
    Vikings (with those ass ungly purple pants)

    The Best Without Even A Close Second:

    The Oakland Raidahs

    A distant second:

    Packers
    Redskins

    Funniest looking uniforms:

    The Chargers after the have pissed and soiled their pants.

  161. ▌BREAKING NEWS ▌ Says:

    My Super Bowl prediction in Norleens:

    Raidahs 31
    Giants 16

  162. Plunketthead Says:

    They sure do Dave. They made France look like Blog semi pros

  163. Raidernationdave Says:

    I picked Spain from the get go to win Europe. The only teams I think that stand a chance with them are Brazil and Argentina.

    Messi’s the sickest dude in the world right now.

  164. Plunketthead Says:

    I thought that little convict look a like from france was gonna pull out a shank and gig someone

  165. Chakka24 (knockin at your door) Says:

    Wassup all my Raider peeps. Long time no see. Good to see the Raiders gettin after it. Wish there was some live cam goin on at HQ so we could get some feed of the new brass in action. Can’t get enough info to keep me satisfied. But I am juiced and primed for training camp.

  166. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    ANYBODY SEE THE ARTICAL ON YAHOO FINANCE BY A GUY NAMED DOUGLAS A. MCINTYRE.HAS A LIST OF 10 BRAND NAMES/ COMPANY’S THAT WILL DISAPPEAR IN THE NEXT YEAR.THE OAKLAND RAIDERS R ON HIS LIST ALONG WITH AMERICAN AIRLINES & OTHERS.SAY’S MOVE TO LA IS ON THE WAY..INTERESTING READ ANYHOW..

  167. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    IDIOT MENTIONS & QUOTES CURRENT OWNER “MIKE DAVIS”.GUESS THAT SAYS ALL U NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THE AUTHER..

  168. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Godspeed Mr. Cortez, you are the man!

  169. RaiderRetribution Says:

    DVD’s tweet on Sandusky is funny as hell,

    Meet Bubba, you new shower partner.

  170. Plunketthead Says:

    Does Dakota know that the Cubs are in last place? Not just in their division, but last place in MLB

  171. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Cubs are in the major league?

  172. TxRaider210 Says:

    No that, was a hell of a pre-fight!

  173. jesusraiderjim Says:

    Nice contribution Plunketthead

    Thanks

  174. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Sometimes they run up and kick the ball and other times they pick itup, run around and dropkick the ball.
    Cant they make up their minds and just do which ever goes the furthest?

    **********************************

    Doesn’t it have something to do with if one of their teammates passed it back to them or not?

    Something has to be up, because one guy from the other team always goes running up, and never really does anything though.

    Must be European tradition, to run up on another man with no intentions of doing anything.

  175. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Does Dakota know that the Cubs are in last place? Not just in their division, but last place in MLB

    *************************

    Next year they are still on the books for close to $30 million for Soriano, Big Z and Aramis Ramirez.

    And BTW, I do a great Harry Caray impersonation!! Better than Will Ferrell’s (voice wise).

  176. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Plunk challenging me to take action on a soccer game.

    I don’t know man, I would be willing to bet on if you can throw this here rock in that garbage can from 25 feet……but futbol?

  177. TxRaider210 Says:

    Almost all Brazilian fighters on this card tonight, dudes are wreckin schit.

  178. TxRaider210 Says:

    Thanks again for the link Dave, hasn’t buffered yet!

  179. fingers Says:

    The Raiders defense…. A new Animal ….

    Even heard Jamie Dukes giving the Raiders props yesterday….

  180. Smuckers Says:

    Raider nation poll:

    Who would you rather see in Silver and Black?

    Reggie Bush or Michael Bush

  181. Cranberry Says:

    http://www.freepriesttjnow.org

    Com’on back buddy.

  182. Plunketthead Says:

    Doesn’t it have something to do with if one of their teammates passed it back to them or not?

    Something has to be up, because one guy from the other team always goes running up, and never really does anything though.

    Must be European tradition, to run up on another man with no intentions of doing anything.
    &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&

    Too bad whatever happened to LMN. He says he knows everything about the sport. He might be able to answer the question

  183. Plunketthead Says:

    Plunk challenging me to take action on a soccer game.
    ************************

    I thought you would want to defend the honor of the home country.
    I am going all out for four flags

  184. buttercup Says:

    Now Sandusky gets to play with men. :shock:

  185. Plunketthead Says:

    Two old arse men fighting.
    I will take helono? in the red trunks

  186. Plunketthead Says:

    So much for that.

    Is anyone else watching the fights?

  187. Says Says:

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    {Raiders assistant trainer Chris Cortez is a hero}

    By Jon Becker
    Friday, June 22nd, 2012 at 4:24 pm in Oakland Raiders.

    A great story emerged from a potentially tragic one Saturday when Raiders assistant trainer Chris Cortez helped pull a woman out of a sinking car in the Oakland estuary.

    Here’s a link to the story on our website, where we re-tell the story Cortez relayed to Jeanette Thompson from Raiders.com in the latest installment of their “Behind the Shield” video show.

    http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2012/06/22/raiders-assistant-trainer-chris-cortez-is-a-hero/

  188. ▐▐▀α▄▌▐Γßα▀▐▌▄▌▌▌K○○○○○○l Says:

    Dude!

  189. ████████████████████████ Says:

    Awesome!

  190. ████████████████████████ Says:

    Somebody has been swiping my handle so now it looks like I’ll be incognito for awhile.

  191. ████████████████████████ Says:

    Plunketthead Says:
    June 23rd, 2012 at 6:14 pm
    So much for that.

    Is anyone else watching the fights?
    _______________________________________________________

    Nope. Sorry bud.

  192. jesusraiderjim Says:

    Must be European tradition, to run up on another man with no intentions of doing anything

    from reading this blog (according to Brien) I thought this was a KK tradition.
    Don’t know why I said that I am just inviting worthless, racist drivel that I reall am not missing at the moment! oops!

  193. Raidernationdave Says:

    3 cars today gents!

  194. jesusraiderjim Says:

    way to sling em Dave

  195. Plunketthead Says:

    Buying or stealing?

  196. Breaking_Black Says:

    My friend who just moved to Toledo, OH said he’s at a bar that Bruce Gradkowski is at. Then he finds out that he part-owns the place. Lol

    Bruce mustve really took a liking to Ohio.

    That’s my great story for the night.

  197. Raidernationdave Says:

    Had a family come in today that my internet padhner had been working. The dad passed and left some scratch. Bought a car for the daughter, the wife and the dude that died his sister, Aunt Pat!

    Livin’ large in the HD tonight!

    I’ll be firing up some bud fo shizzle and might even see about a bottle of Vodka for tonight!!!

  198. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I heart you Brandon Moss.

    That was some stellar work over there.

  199. ████████████ Says:

    FYI, I am working on getting the Raider logo in the comment box. Very difficult thing to do that is, but rest assured I won’t rest til it’s a go. Nor will I give up.

    Code Black ya’ll.

    ██████████████████

  200. Random Drug Tester Says:

    Raidernationdave Says:
    June 23rd, 2012 at 3:33 pm
    I picked Spain from the get go to win Europe. The only teams I think that stand a chance with them are Brazil and Argentina.

    Messi’s the sickest dude in the world right now.
    ========================================
    the hardest part for them (Brazil, Argentina) is to get into the Euro’s

  201. Random Drug Tester Says:

    Go Germany!!!

  202. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Neil B..

    good luck, kick those cheaters home tonight!

    btw, do you think Mark Davis and Wayne Rooney has the same hairdresser?

  203. La Milicia Negra Says:

    I dont know if you guys have read this one, but its ok…

    http://bayarea.sbnation.com/oakland-raiders/2012/6/19/3095472/oakland-raiders-position-battles-linebacker-rolando-mcclain-miles-burris-aaron-curry

  204. ▬▬▬▬▬▬ Says:

    http://www.sfgate.com/raiders/article/Richard-Seymour-enthused-about-Raiders-prospects-3631366.php

    This article wants me to think Seymour is going to have a big year. Seems he’s going to be a little more committed and focussed.

  205. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Crazy that Goethel gets so much love in here and in that article, for a guy who has been inactive TWICE as many weeks as he has career tackles, in two years.

    That article says he is fast, can tackle and has great vision, lol.

    Based on what? Not saying he may not turn into those characteristics, but come on already.

    Let the man play well in, I don’t know, maybe a divisional road game before we have any take on his play.

    For now, he is a late round draft pick who can’t stay healthy in shorts and shells.

  206. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Did you know that Forbes list came out with the top 100 highest earning athletes, and two players from our great defensive unit made the list.

    Seymour was the 51st highest paid player in all of sports last year.

    Rolando McClain (lol at all this) actually was 99th on the list, and he actually earned more endorsement money than the following players who ranked higher than him:

    Jonathan Joseph, Haloti Ngata, Logan Mankins, Deangelo WIlliams, Jon Beason, Robert Mathis and Darnell Dockett.

    Questions is, who the F is paying Rolando McClain to endorse their product?

  207. Raider O Says:

    Cheaters?!?

    LMN is still bitter. lol
    I would be too, especially when my team loses and the team I was dissing advances. I would be bitter too if I talked a lot of crap, told people I know what I’m talking about since I watch more games, and I was wrong.

    Oleeeeee
    Ole
    Ole
    Oleeee
    Oleee
    Oleee

    Italya!!

  208. alf_capone Says:

    Questions is, who the F is paying Rolando McClain to endorse their product?

    ———————————————————

    Charter Arms?

  209. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Charter Arms?

    ***********************

    I left that one open for some comedic lines for sure.

    Scopes for guns (since he missed)
    jogging pants
    3 hour energy
    legalzoom

    And so on…………….

  210. alf_capone Says:

    anyone heard anything recent about the raiders and cedric benson. i think i want it to happen. y not right?

  211. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Raider O..

    you DO know that italy isnt portugal right?, and England plays Italy tonight, so obvious im talking about italy.

    secondly, Olé is a spanish cheer, not italian..

    and lastly, its Italy not Italya..

    Bitter? No! but I DO think you act like a teenage girl. Denmark lost a close game to portugal, had that been a draw, portugal would have gone home.. simple as that.

    Had Bento (the Portuguese coach) been coach in Holland, in stead of Marwijk Holland would clearly had done a better job. Marwijk did a terrible job. that said Portugal never won anything, lets see if its not the same thing again this time.

    yup portugal have Christina, she is great baller no doubt. But Holland has the top scorer from both Bundes league AND Premier League. Some of the best wings as well. So yeah Holland went home, but still the better team.

    regarding my cheater comment, Italy cheats always has, but this matchfixing thing is just the worst thing one ever can do to a sport.. so yeah italy needs to be send home put to bed.

    lastly I root WITH AND FOR my fellow raiders fans’ nations, so yeah neil b and england has my support. people here supported Denmark when they played and I appreciate that very much, but you rather see a fellow raider fan lose, just so you can gloat.. some would see that as petty and classless

  212. Raider O Says:

    Noooo really? You were talking about Italya? The team that plays England today?! No?! , its Italya, and Ole is a soccer chant. A lot of counties and fans use it, but I don’t expect you to know that.
    You need to watch more games, 250 is not enough!
    LOL

  213. Raider O Says:

    You are acting like a bitter loser by creating excuses.
    You lost!
    You are not good enough!
    You were wrong about Portugal among other things!
    You claimed to know more than me since you watched more games and you were wrong!

    Get over it!!!

  214. alf_capone Says:

    whats with all the soccer talk? who wants to watch a bunch of guys run around for what seems like an eternity and have the game end in a nothing nothing tie. soccer is completely boring. if they make it legal for them to tackle each other it might be worth watching. they show the most exciting parts on sportscenter and im still sitting there watching it thinking okay get this crap off my screen and show me the yankees highlights. please.

  215. Raider O Says:

    You do know Holland is out and Portugal is still playing! Maybe you should pay more attention.
    Go watch more games!

  216. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Raider O Says:
    June 24th, 2012 at 10:50 am

    Noooo really? You were talking about Italya? The team that plays England today?! No?! , its Italya, and Ole is a soccer chant. A lot of counties and fans use it, but I don’t expect you to know that.
    You need to watch more games, 250 is not enough!
    LOL
    ________________________________________________________

    well again you are totally wrong, no italian fan cheers Olé, no british, no german, no french. ONLY spanish speaking fans! its origin in sports is from bullfighting..

  217. Raider O Says:

    I can’t believe you are so ignorant you didn’t know it’s called Italya/ italia.
    Where do you live again?
    LOL

  218. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I actually think soccer is going to take off here in the US, but not US soccer leagues, but interest in the World Cup, Euro League stuff, and maybe our America’s tournament as well. The past mens and womens World Cups had off the charts ratings.

    SI did a study, and that black participation on D-I soccer teams used to be like 3% 15 years ago, and is almost 10% now.

    Much more extreme for females, where it jumped from something like 5% to over 25%.

    Better athletes will generate more interest.

  219. Raider O Says:

    My Italian friend does!
    Maybe you need to watch more games, or you can ask the experts at FIFA.
    LOL

  220. Raider O Says:

    LMN,

    When I want your opinions about soccer, I will go to FIFA.com.

  221. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Italia is what is used to be called under the Roman Empire. It changed later to Italy.

    Not sure why someone would call it that. Maybe they are like the people that still have the confederate flag or something.

  222. Raider O Says:

    Vegas,

    If you took a trip to Italia, you would hear a lot more people call it that, but I’m sure you are not going to find those people in NM.

  223. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Raider O Says:
    June 24th, 2012 at 10:53 am

    You are acting like a bitter loser by creating excuses.
    You lost!
    You are not good enough!
    You were wrong about Portugal among other things!
    You claimed to know more than me since you watched more games and you were wrong!

    Get over it!!!
    ______________________________________________________

    you were right, that portugal went to the finals, well even a broken clock is right twice a day..

    Had Portugal gone home no-one in the world of soccer would had thought about it, well only Madrid fans with the hots for Christina. well the thing is the teams still playing arent necessary the better teams. But you have so high thoughts about your own assessments of the teams that highly paid experts thoughts arent valid in your view, somewhat ignorant, they just work with this all year and all their life, have played the game, have played against the current players and so on, but of course you know better… yeah right..

    Does Portugal win over Spain, I will admit I might rethink my stand. but until then, they are hugely overrated… they got Christina, one of the best girls ever to play the game, and a good caoch and I like Contraõ a lot, but thats it..

  224. Raider O Says:

    You people…..
    Just because we call countries Italy, Jordan, etc.. In English it doesn’t mean that’s the actual name people use there.
    Jordan: Ordun
    Italy: Italya/ Italia

  225. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Raider O Says:
    June 24th, 2012 at 10:59 am

    My Italian friend does!

    _________________________________________________________

    Bwahahahaaha yeah one friend of yours thats your source? pathetic, my guess an american italian, right? or someone that grew up in the states?

  226. Raider O Says:

    More overrated than Holland? The 2nd best team in the world that’s out of the CS?!

  227. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Well when you go to the South you see confederate flags as well.

    BTW, Rio Rancho New Mexico has one of the higher Italian-American populations on this side of the Mississippi (over 15%). My in-laws street, in old Rio Rancho, is probably half tranplanted East Coast Italians.

    BTW, San Diego’s % is under 5%.

  228. Raider O Says:

    What’s your source? FIFA?
    Italians chant OLE and you ate wrong AGAIN just like you were wrong about Holland and Portugal.
    You should stop before embarrassing yourself.
    Go watch 250 more games, and maybe you will notice Italians chanting ole.
    Btw, my friend is from Italia. Try again loser.

  229. Plunketthead Says:

    Its days like this I wish I got paid more at the kwik e mart so I could afford another TV.

    Nascar and soccer are on at the same time.

  230. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Raider O Says:
    June 24th, 2012 at 11:12 am

    You people…..
    Just because we call countries Italy, Jordan, etc.. In English it doesn’t mean that’s the actual name people use there.
    Jordan: Ordun
    Italy: Italya/ Italia
    ________________________________________________________

    true, but italya is just wrong, simple as that, i believe in Greek, they write it as italya, but thats it i think, anyhoo no italian would write it like that.. but since this is a english speaking blog, why not just admit to write it in proper english?

    would make any sense if I said: I dont think Italien will win tonight and I hope the final will be between tyskland og spanien…

    RIGHT?

  231. Raider O Says:

    Btw, I was chanting OLE before I met the guy, and I Hearn many Italians use the same chant.
    How does it feel to be wrong so many times about a topic you claim to be an expert in since you watch 250 games/ year?

  232. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Raider O..

    fine, I will just try to ignore you. but your olé lie, is just crazy..

    I heard a Japanese samurai once killed a man and yelled Olé too, so Olé is actually Japanese… LOL…

    have a nice game teenage girl..

  233. Plunketthead Says:

    England but not Ireland or Scotland 5
    Romans who shout OLE!!! 1

  234. Raider O Says:

    Heard*

  235. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Bigger question, is why does every team chant that White Stripes song whenever they score over there?

    Shouldn’t they be chanting Oasis or Coldplay songs or something?

  236. Raider O Says:

    Keep crying bitter loser. What did you say about Holland and Portugal?
    LMAO
    Enjoy the game.

  237. Raider O Says:

    Oleeee
    Ole
    Ole
    Oleeee
    Oleeee

    Italya!!!!

  238. Plunketthead Says:

    Bigger question is why dont goalies wear those giant mitts anymore? And if they can wear anything they want, why hasnt someone dressed up as a zombie?

    That would scare girlie men like rolando and they would be scoreless

  239. Hardline Says:

    “Italia” is the Italian word for Italy. Italy, as a unified nation, was created in 1849 through the Italian revolution led by General Giuseppe Garibaldi. Before the unification, what we know of as Italy, was a carved-up conglomeration of city-states, principalities, dutchies, etc. with the Catholic Church and the Kingdom of Two Scilies exerting the most influence over the penninsula.

    From approximately 250 AD, Rome came into prominence in the Italian penninsula as a dominant city-state and had its own independent culture and language (latin), and as we know became one the greatest world empires.

    Throughout Rome’s existence, the Italian tribes existing throughout Italy competed with, or fell under sumbission to Rome.

    Rome didn’t comprise Italy and Italy didn’t comprise Rome; they were all separate and independent states.

  240. Raider O Says:

    The word “olé” itself, being a Spanish interjection of Arabic origin related mostly with bullfighting, but also with sports.[2] It was chanted when individuals seemed to rise above themselves in performance.

    The chant is used frequently in football games around the world, and can be heard in Montreal Canadiens hockey games when the team is winning.[3] It is also used by supporters of the University of California, Santa Barbara’s Gaucho intercollegiate sports teams, particularly the basketball and soccer programs, and led to the creation of a mascot, simply named Olé.[4]

    According to Wiki.
    “The chant is used frequently in football games around the world” your ignorance is amazing!!

  241. Plunketthead Says:

    I think Italys Mario is related to Worf.
    I never knew Italians were klingons

  242. Raider O Says:

    What?!?
    What did you say??
    You need to watch more games?!

    Ignorant loser!
    Be a man, but that is hard especially for you.

  243. Just Fire Baby Says:

    At least we didn’t chant Ole in the last World Cup.

  244. La Milicia Negra Says:

    JFB..

    yup rather weird thing, but only girls and sissy boyfriends like coldplay, and they kinda could care less about soccer.. and Oasis, well been there done that =)

    White stripes was actually huge in europe..

  245. Seymour Bush Says:

    Questions is, who the F is paying Rolando McClain to endorse their product?
    ==========================================

    Foolish Grin Bail Bonds??

  246. Just Fire Baby Says:

    The Stripes are awesome, but they are from Detroit.

    Most Euro soccer hooligans seem to be anti-US things, so I find it odd damn near the whole continent takes it up in soccer matches.

    Coldplay was a backhanded compliment, lol.

  247. La Milicia Negra Says:

    The word “olé” itself, being a Spanish interjection of Arabic origin related mostly with bullfighting, but also with sports.[2] It was chanted when individuals seemed to rise above themselves in performance.

    The chant is used frequently in football games around the world, and can be heard in Montreal Canadiens hockey games when the team is winning.[3] It is also used by supporters of the University of California, Santa Barbara’s Gaucho intercollegiate sports teams, particularly the basketball and soccer programs, and led to the creation of a mascot, simply named Olé.[4]

    According to Wiki.
    “The chant is used frequently in football games around the world” your ignorance is amazing!!

    _______________________________________________________

    since you wont ignore me, and keep up your troll-like fashion, I better comment on this one..

    as I said, it was spanish, its origin was from bullfighting and that no-one in italy will chant Olé..

    I never said Ireland didnt or that no other than spanish fans chant it, becuase we in Denmark even use the chant, because of the heroic status Denmark got when they played in Mexico ‘86..

  248. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    June 24th, 2012 at 11:36 am

    The Stripes are awesome, but they are from Detroit.

    Most Euro soccer hooligans seem to be anti-US things, so I find it odd damn near the whole continent takes it up in soccer matches.

    Coldplay was a backhanded compliment, lol.
    ________________________________________________________

    I disagree, there are no anti-american thing in soccer what ever..

  249. Plunketthead Says:

    Sounds like the story is cahnging

  250. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Hardline Says:
    June 24th, 2012 at 11:29 am

    “Italia” is the Italian word for Italy. Italy, as a unified nation, was created in 1849 through the Italian revolution led by General Giuseppe Garibaldi. Before the unification, what we know of as Italy, was a carved-up conglomeration of city-states, principalities, dutchies, etc. with the Catholic Church and the Kingdom of Two Scilies exerting the most influence over the penninsula.

    From approximately 250 AD, Rome came into prominence in the Italian penninsula as a dominant city-state and had its own independent culture and language (latin), and as we know became one the greatest world empires.

    Throughout Rome’s existence, the Italian tribes existing throughout Italy competed with, or fell under sumbission to Rome.

    Rome didn’t comprise Italy and Italy didn’t comprise Rome; they were all separate and independent states.
    _______________________________________________________

    exactly, no such thing as italya…

  251. Plunketthead Says:

    All those soccer hoodlums wear american football shirts and drink american beer

  252. Raider O Says:

    Arabic origin.

  253. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I disagree, there are no anti-american thing in soccer what ever..

    ****************************

    Not buying it

  254. Plunketthead Says:

    Matt barkley in goal? dude has mad skills

  255. Raider O Says:

    “Italia” is the Italian word for Italy
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    LMN and Vegas don’t agree! lol

  256. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    June 24th, 2012 at 11:44 am

    I disagree, there are no anti-american thing in soccer what ever..

    ****************************

    Not buying it
    ________________________________________________________

    fair enough, I can only speak of how I see it of course.. I think there is more anti-soccer thing in US than there are a anti-americanism in soccer.. =)

  257. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Raider O Says:
    June 24th, 2012 at 11:46 am

    “Italia” is the Italian word for Italy
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    LMN and Vegas don’t agree! lol
    ________________________________________________________

    now you are more stup!d that I thought… I totally agree!

    but you write Italya… thats not a italian word..

  258. Just Fire Baby Says:

    On another note, reading these articles about our DB’s and LB’s, we don’t have any depth or quality experience there really.

    This defensive resurgence may take a moment…..or a year.

    Carson Palmer + Pro Bowl = playoffs
    Carson Palmer + No Pro Bowl = No playoffs

  259. La Milicia Negra Says:

    jfb…

    yup!

  260. Raider O Says:

    Raider O Says:
    June 24th, 2012 at 10:57 am
    I can’t believe you are so ignorant you didn’t know it’s called Italya/ italia.
    Where do you live again?
    LOL
    $$$$$$$$$$$

    Raider O Says:
    June 24th, 2012 at 11:12 am
    You people…..
    Just because we call countries Italy, Jordan, etc.. In English it doesn’t mean that’s the actual name people use there.
    Jordan: Ordun
    Italy: Italya/ Italia
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Try again ignorant euro trash.

  261. Seymour Bush Says:

    La Milicia Negra Says:
    June 24th, 2012 at 11:39 am

    The word “olé” itself, being a Spanish interjection of Arabic origin
    ==================================

    Yeah, but didn’t the original Arabic words mean, “we give up, don’t hurt us”…

  262. Raider O Says:

    I’m not rying to get you started again, but Spain was occupied by Arab/ Muslims.

  263. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I don’t think this is the road we want to go, lol

    Anyone else watch the replay of the Lions game last week?

    Worst position on the field = HC

  264. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Ah, see us I-ties got a brother on the team.

    Anyone want to bet he is from Sicily?

    Just saying.

  265. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Couldn’t resist…

    Raider On

  266. Garbonzo Says:

    Raider O Says:
    June 24th, 2012 at 11:55 am
    Raider O Says:
    June 24th, 2012 at 10:57 am
    I can’t believe you are so ignorant you didn’t know it’s called Italya/ italia.
    Where do you live again?
    LOL
    $$$$$$$$$$$

    Raider O Says:
    June 24th, 2012 at 11:12 am
    You people…..
    Just because we call countries Italy, Jordan, etc.. In English it doesn’t mean that’s the actual name people use there.
    Jordan: Ordun
    Italy: Italya/ Italia
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Try again ignorant euro trash.
    *******************************************************

    ?????

  267. Waffle Iron 3000 Says:

    Wassup?

  268. Raider O Says:

    Chico,

    LOL
    My 2 favorite soccer teams are Argentina and Italya/ Italia. I grew up watching Maradona and Roberto Baggio.

  269. Try Some Reality Says:

    La Milicia Negra Says:
    June 24th, 2012 at 11:11 am
    Raider O Says:
    June 24th, 2012 at 10:53 am

    You are acting like a bitter loser by creating excuses.
    You lost!
    You are not good enough!
    You were wrong about Portugal among other things!
    You claimed to know more than me since you watched more games and you were wrong!

    Get over it!!!
    ______________________________________________________

    you were right, that portugal went to the finals, well even a broken clock is right twice a day..

    Had Portugal gone home no-one in the world of soccer would had thought about it, well only Madrid fans with the hots for Christina. well the thing is the teams still playing arent necessary the better teams. But you have so high thoughts about your own assessments of the teams that highly paid experts thoughts arent valid in your view, somewhat ignorant, they just work with this all year and all their life, have played the game, have played against the current players and so on, but of course you know better… yeah right..

    Does Portugal win over Spain, I will admit I might rethink my stand. but until then, they are hugely overrated… they got Christina, one of the best girls ever to play the game, and a good caoch and I like Contraõ a lot, but thats it..

    ———————–

    My goodness, talk about bitter apples. Funny you should call out Christiano as a girl when your being just that about your team’s loss. Netherlands and Denmrak were completely outdone by Germany and Portugal. Give them credit, grab a tissue, and put away those Pom poms till next time.

  270. Raider O Says:

    LMN,

    I apologize for saying “euro trash”, I’m sorry bro, but you are too condesending about when it comes to soccer, and I don’t like it (been watching soccer for a long time (Maradona & Baggio). You were wrong, admit it and move on.
    Btw, my cousin is married to an Italian guy, my uncle lived in Italya/ Italia, and my father lived there before he moved back to the states.

  271. Try Some Reality Says:

    The teams playing aren’t necessarily the better teams? Lol. Then what, pray tell, is the purpose of the tournament. To determine the luckiest team? Geez, guess Portugal has had 270+ minutes of luck so far. That’s a lot of luck.

  272. Raider O Says:

    Btw, Ronaldo is The reason Portugal is still playing in the CS. Who scored The only 2 goals in their last game?
    Ronaldo.

  273. lefty12 Says:

    LMN,don’t let the hothead get to you.

  274. Raider O Says:

    Correction: the game before that.

    Raider O Says:
    June 24th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
    Btw, Ronaldo is The reason Portugal is still playing in the CS. Who scored The only 2 goals in their last game?
    Ronaldo.

  275. Try Some Reality Says:

    O, they had 1 goal in their last game, but he has scored the last 3 goals, accounting for all goals in their last two games, so point taken.

  276. lefty12 Says:

    TSR,do you believe the donkeys were a better team than the Raiders were last year?We all know the best teams don’t always win.

  277. Raider O Says:

    Who did he score two goals on LMN? I can’t remember. lol

  278. Seymour Bush Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    June 24th, 2012 at 12:03 pm

    Anyone else watch the replay of the Lions game last week?

    Worst position on the field = HC
    ===================================

    If you are talking about Hue Jackson’s decisions in that game I could not agree more. The second the season ended I was calling for his ouster and it boggled my mind that a very large majority of posters here thought I was crazy. But looking back on the season, Jackson couldn’t coach a Pop Warner team that had Andrew Luck on it.

  279. Try Some Reality Says:

    Yes, they were. All that matters is the standings, Left. They won, so they were the better team. Whether that be a result of coaching or what have you. We choked.

  280. Raider O Says:

    TSR,

    I understand that he plays better for RM, and who knows why? Talent around him, Coaching, presure of playing for your country, etc…, but he is still a great players and one of the best in the world. He is an elite player, but Messi is still the best player IMO.

  281. Try Some Reality Says:

    Ask 100 non-partisan fans who was the better team last year between Donkeys and Raiders and I’d be surprised if 10 say Raiders. Only Raider fans will make excuses. Well not this one. Donkeys were better. Believe what you want if it makes you feel better.

  282. Try Some Reality Says:

    Yeah, it’s good to see him finally put in some good play for his country. If he can continue dialing it in, I believe they have a chance to take it.

  283. TxRaider210 Says:

    I believe the Donks were better defensively and had a better coach. Our offense had more promise than theirs did though.

  284. lefty12 Says:

    Were they better coached than we were-absolutely.But their talent wasn’t better.Using them might have been a bad example.Were the Pats better during the ‘tuck’ year?Would you say that TB was a better team or did they win because their coach knew our plays and out-coached our coaches?Was the USA hockey team better than the Soviet team when they won the gold?In all 3 instances the better team lost for one reason or another.

  285. Seymour Bush Says:

    Try Some Reality Says:
    June 24th, 2012 at 12:38 pm

    Ask 100 non-partisan fans who was the better team last year between Donkeys and Raiders and I’d be surprised if 10 say Raiders. Only Raider fans will make excuses. Well not this one. Donkeys were better. Believe what you want if it makes you feel better.
    ====================================

    While I probably will agree with you, the question is was Dungver a better team, or did they use a gimmick offense that no one could figure out how to stop? I would say the latter, and once the league figured it out, Dungver became, well, Dungver. We were the lst stop in the Teblow’s High School Offense train. It’s not that McCoy had Teblow running a college offense, he had Teblow running a HIGH SCHOOL offense. The league really was not prepared for that, and to McCoy’s credit, football 101 is run a play until the opponent stops it. For five straight weeks no one could stop it. They won the sixth week, but by that time teams, (in that case Chicago) figured out a way to stop it. After that, they lost four out of five games, the lone win being against Pittsburgh in the playoffs. But the emperor had no clothes and Teblow is now with the Jets. Summary of all of this, I don’t know if I would say Dungver was the better team. Dungver just had a better run than we did.

  286. lefty12 Says:

    I’m not trying to argue,just pointing out the ‘best’ teams don’t always win,IMO.

  287. Raidernationdave Says:

    Spain beyotches! It’s gonna be Spain!

  288. Waffle Iron 3000 Says:

    Wassup? Wassup!

  289. Try Some Reality Says:

    IMO, you have to judge better as applied to the team as a whole. If coaching is what puts them over the top or strategy, they are still better. Would we have beat TB if not for the Gruden advantage? Of course, but you can’t just give them an asterisk because of that. In the end, they paid handsomely for Gruden and it paid off. They won, fair and square. Not only that, they waxed the floor with our asses.

    Now the tuck rule is a different animal entirely. That was just a BS call that got used against us by the refs and the league. I think that wanted the pats to win, as that was the year of 9/11.

    Were there questionable calls in Portugal’s victories?

    As for your post Seymour, gimmick offense or not, they won with it while playing within the rules of the game. Until they measure the standings based on talent and potential, I’m not interested. AD said it best, just win baby, pretty or not.

  290. Try Some Reality Says:

    Considering the way some of our teams in the past, I’m surprised any of you are even trying to argue this.

  291. Try Some Reality Says:

    The only situations where I’m willing to consider the better team losing is where significant injuries to key players on the losing side and/or significant cheating is involved.

    Siragusa swan dive comes to mind, and the tuck game.

  292. Raider O Says:

    I agree TSR.

  293. Raidernationdave Says:

    Time for orange slices and Capri Sun!

  294. Seymour Bush Says:

    As for your post Seymour, gimmick offense or not, they won with it while playing within the rules of the game. Until they measure the standings based on talent and potential, I’m not interested. AD said it best, just win baby, pretty or not.
    ========================================

    It’s kind of hard to argue against the end result. That being said was Buster Douglas really a better fighter than Mike Tyson? Or the 1969 NY Mets a better team the the Baltimore Orioles? Doubtful. Sometimes the better team doesn’t win. It’s just that simple.

  295. Raider O Says:

    Gooooooaaaaaaaaalllllllll

    Italya!!!! (that’s how Arabs and Turks among others spell it to educate a few).

  296. Raider O Says:

    Nooooo!!!

  297. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    HAPPENS IN SPORTS A LOT.DONT THINK THE “80″ RAIDERS WERE THE BEST TEAM THAT YEAR.TEAM CAN GET HOT IN POST SEASON AND WIN IT ALL.

  298. Raidernationdave Says:

    Penalty kicks beyotches!

  299. Raider O Says:

    Cmon ITALYA!!!!!
    Yes!!!!!!

  300. Raider O Says:

    Yes!!!!!!

  301. Raidernationdave Says:

    England sucks!

  302. Raider O Says:

    Oleeeeeeeee
    Ole
    Ole
    Oleeee
    Oleeee

    ITALYA!!!!!
    Where are the haters now?! Cheaters win!!!
    LMAO

  303. Raidernationdave Says:

    Another wasted effort!

  304. Raidernationdave Says:

    England gets punked by Italy again! Film at 11!

  305. Raidernationdave Says:

    Bunch’a wankers

  306. alf_capone Says:

    id rather watch the wnba than soccer

  307. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Know that it is a greater sin to mention soccer on a Raider blog than to request the Raiders resign both Marinovich and Russell.

  308. alf_capone Says:

    France is successful at participating at soccer. That should say something

  309. alf_capone Says:

    Soccer fans justify the activity based entirely on its popularity. Not only are the reasons why soccer is popular an argument against soccer, but it really shows how pathetic said activity is when that is the only argument soccer fans come up with

  310. Seymour Bush Says:

    RaiderRetribution Says:
    June 24th, 2012 at 2:40 pm
    Know that it is a greater sin to mention soccer on a Raider blog than to request the Raiders resign both Marinovich and Russell.
    =====================================

    Those posters couldn’t make it to the Pride Parade so they talk about the next best thing: soccer.

  311. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    It’s kind of hard to argue against the end result. That being said was Buster Douglas really a better fighter than Mike Tyson? Or the 1969 NY Mets a better team the the Baltimore Orioles? Doubtful. Sometimes the better team doesn’t win. It’s just that simple.
    ================================================
    69 Mets were an outstanding team.

    Top to bottom they could not match the Orioles offensively.

    But if they played multiple 7 games series, I’d wager the Mets would win more than half of them.

    Why ? They had great pitching and were superb up the middle on defense.

    Seaver and Koosman were the stalwarts of an imposing staff that made them an extremely dangerous playoff team.

    They were not a fluke.

    Douglas was a journeyman fighter that was in the right place at the right time. Exposed a quickly fading, vastly overrated Tyson.

    I think you’re right that the better team doesn’t ALWAYS win. However, I think they USUALLY do.

    Of course, at the end of the day only one thing matters: SCOREBOARD.

  312. Seymour Bush Says:

    Well Said Raiderman99.

  313. Waffle Iron 3000 Says:

    Try Some Reality Says:
    June 24th, 2012 at 1:30 pm
    The only situations where I’m willing to consider the better team losing is where significant injuries to key players on the losing side and/or significant cheating is involved.

    Siragusa swan dive comes to mind, and the tuck game.
    ………………………………………….

    What was salt in the wound was the fact saragooseschitt didn’t even get flagged. The tuck rule. The thought ‘conspiracy’ come to mind? And then there are countless other flags anyone keeping track of would have a field day with.

  314. Waffle Iron 3000 Says:

    Try Some Reality Says:
    June 24th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
    Ask 100 non-partisan fans who was the better team last year between Donkeys and Raiders and I’d be surprised if 10 say Raiders. Only Raider fans will make excuses. Well not this one. Donkeys were better. Believe what you want if it makes you feel better.
    …………………………………………

    Ironic that Denvers D was waaaaaaaay better than the chuck b magnificent D and now we have their DC. And with the jury still out on manning, I’m not so sure he will be an upgrade over Tebow. Say what you want about Tebow, the dude won games, with the help of Allens D of course, but they won games. This years new and improves Raiders will have the broncos begging for more up the ol’ cornhole.

  315. Seymour Bush Says:

    The “Snow Job” was the last game Gruden coached for the Raiders. If any of you remember that game, the forecast was for a bad storm, but it started snowing right as the game began so we all knew early points would be at a premium. Gruden won the toss and correctly opted to take the rock. The Raiders were driving well on their lst drive. They got to midfield and had a third and 7. Easy pitch and catch to Tim Brown for the lst down. Problem was the refs never gave him his forward progress and they called it a 5 yard completion. We were all outraged. Gruden, again, correctly challenged. The refs moved the ball up one yard, but still not enough for the lst down, forcing the Raiders to punt. Right then I knew we were in trouble. Then later in the game came the “tuck”.

    After the game Gruden told the players in the locker room, “they are not going to allow you to win here”. Everyone thinks Al traded Jon Gruden, but Gruden thought he had to get out of here to really win. Davis obliged him.

  316. Plunketthead Says:

    LOL
    poor wankers
    I would be madder then hell if I was a big fan and the wankers penalty kicked like high school girls

  317. Plunketthead Says:

    Dern it, another yankee game tonight.
    BUT HOORAHH
    Get to watch RJ Dickey baffle alexa and derika with the knuckleball

    I would pay just to watvh Dickey pitch

  318. alf_capone Says:

    its ra dickey and dream on. why hate the yanks?

  319. alf_capone Says:

    dickey will do what the muts have and always will do and thats flop. he will finish the season with like a 14-10 record at best. watch us bronx bomb ‘em

  320. Raider O Says:

    http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=7&ved=0CFYQtwIwBg&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DkDOwZIRl7cY&ei=gZznT5nWBOrU2AWoi9DZCQ&usg=AFQjCNEgEN4ZgKKTDbfuk31zas4j80npQQ
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Italians chanting OLE!!!
    Another thing LMN was wrong about.
    Do you really watch soccer?

    Vegas doesn’t know any better, but when you claim to know a lot since you watch 260 games, you should know this crap.

    Your ignorance is amazing.

  321. alf_capone Says:

    you people are kinda sad arguing over who does and who doesnt chant ole. its bad enough to talk soccer on a raider blog but this crap is childish

  322. Raider O Says:

    Not trying to argue, but I can’t tolerate ignorance.

  323. Raider O Says:

    Italians don’t chant OLE.
    Holland being better than Portugal.
    Holland is the 2nd best team in the world.

    Anything else LMN?

    LOL

  324. alf_capone Says:

    this was on wikipedia about “ole, ole, ole”

    The chant is used frequently in football games around the world, and can be heard in Montreal Canadiens hockey games when the team is winning.[3] It is also used by supporters of the University of California, Santa Barbara’s Gaucho intercollegiate sports teams, particularly the basketball and soccer programs, and led to the creation of a mascot, simply named Olé.[4]
    It is also used by the supporters of the Republic of Ireland national football team,[5][6] especially in the song “Put ‘Em Under Pressure”.
    In Argentina, sometimes the name of a person the people could be cheering to is added at the end; e.g.: “Olé, olé olé ole, Die-go, Die-go! (referring to Diego Armando Maradona).

  325. Raider O Says:

    If people can talk about baseball, basketball, politics, etc, then I’m sure we can talk about soccer. I know it’s not as popular here, but we do have a team and a league, so why can’t we talk about it?

  326. Raidernationdave Says:

    That was another pathetic effort on the part of the Limeies. Thank God I’m Scottish!

    ++++++++++++++++++++

    Plunketthead Says:
    June 24th, 2012 at 3:15 pm

    LOL
    poor wankers
    I would be madder then hell if I was a big fan and the wankers penalty kicked like high school girls

  327. alf_capone Says:

    cuz soccer sucks and it’s boring.

    hank hill: ” Soccer was invented by European ladies to keep them busy while their husbands did the cooking.”

    that is why it should not be spoken about. talking about it on a raider blog makes it that much worse

  328. Raidernationdave Says:

    “O” don’t engage ‘em cause you just give the trolls, er tools what they want.

    You got Italy over Germany?

  329. Raider O Says:

    Thank you, and I did post the same thing earlier.
    Btw, I’m done taking about it. I posted a link with Italians chanting ole, and I have met many Italians who use the same chant.
    I like it, and I was introduced to the great chant by an Italian friend when I was younger and living abroad (so it wasn’t an Italian/ American LMN lol).

  330. Raider O Says:

    Dave,

    I’ll remember that.

    I’m a fan bro but I’m not crazy. Germany is the best team IMO.

  331. Plunketthead Says:

    Alf
    You just need to catch world cup fever. I suggest you learn to appreciate making fun of the match, the people playing, the way they talk and everything else about the game.

    Thats what I did. then after watching a few games I came to like it,,,,,,, a little bit. :smile:
    Country vrs country is more fun for me

    After the elites turn american football into a bisexual friendly game of hugsomeone, all we will have left is the greatest game ever and soccer.

    And everyone will be on the soccer bandwagon before you

  332. Plunketthead Says:

    Raidernationdave Says:
    June 24th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
    “O” don’t engage ‘em cause you just give the trolls, er tools what they want.
    *******************************

    Yes and I am starting to get a tiny bit upset at O

  333. Plunketthead Says:

    He knows dern good and well that it is my job as SA to pester LMN. Not only is it disrespectful to throw more stones at LMN then I do, but it causes a great envy to swell up insdie of me

  334. Breaking_Black Says:

    Just to end the “Ole” argument, It actually originates from Staples Center. Back in 2008, after the Lakers beat the Timberwolves, 3 guys and a girl started the chant. Ever since then it has taken a life of its own aaalll around the globe. Cheers mates.

  335. Raider O Says:

    LOL
    Forgive me Soccer Ambassador.

  336. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Outstanding job sir. AND he saved us from another 2,000 + long post during the off season…

  337. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Question: Which receiver will lead the Raiders at the end of the season?

    Me? Criner…

  338. Raidernationdave Says:

    Thinking of heading over to England to watch West Brom play

  339. Raidernationdave Says:

    Everyone knows the chant “ole” started from the first time I busted my ex in her keister!

  340. Plunketthead Says:

    The trolls or troll must have spent the weekend in jail. Its been too quite.

    Hmmmm,, maybe sully really is sandusky

  341. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Raider O Says:
    June 24th, 2012 at 4:20 pm

    Italians don’t chant OLE.
    Holland being better than Portugal.
    Holland is the 2nd best team in the world.

    Anything else LMN?

    LOL
    _____________________________________________________

    Its either italy in english or italia in italian, italya isnt a word, if you were dyslexic it would be okay though..

    Real italians, who live in italy would never chant Olé, it would be like me saying that USA and Canada is the same thing. An Italian would chant Forza 3 times…

    Holland has a better team, I still stand by that. Portugal has Ronaldo and not much more.

    Ronaldo, Top Scorer in La Liga. a total of 60 goals in La Liga, Cope del rey, super cup and Champions leage… I believe its a record, I may be wrong.

    Klaas Jan Huntelaar, Top Scorer in Bundes League. 48 total

    Robin Van Persie, Top Scorer in Premier League. 37 total

    problem was Hollands coach never had them on the field at same time, as everybody else would have..

    lastly, I NEVER EVER SAID HOLLAND WAS 2ND BEST IN THE WORLD, it would suit you if you stopped lying! I havent even said 2nd in Europe.. I said 2nd in group B

    anyhoo, Spain has a walkover Portugal, and Germany has a walkover Germany and we have my dream finale!

  342. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Raidernationdave Says:
    June 24th, 2012 at 5:35 pm

    Thinking of heading over to England to watch West Brom play
    _________________________________________________________

    WHY?!?!?

  343. Raidernationdave Says:

    Cause I can?

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++

    La Milicia Negra Says:
    June 24th, 2012 at 6:08 pm

    Raidernationdave Says:
    June 24th, 2012 at 5:35 pm

    Thinking of heading over to England to watch West Brom play
    _________________________________________________________

    WHY?!?!?

  344. La Milicia Negra Says:

    =)

    thats your team, then I guess?

  345. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    The “Snow Job” was the last game Gruden coached for the Raiders. If any of you remember that game, the forecast was for a bad storm, but it started snowing right as the game began so we all knew early points would be at a premium. Gruden won the toss and correctly opted to take the rock. The Raiders were driving well on their lst drive. They got to midfield and had a third and 7. Easy pitch and catch to Tim Brown for the lst down. Problem was the refs never gave him his forward progress and they called it a 5 yard completion. We were all outraged. Gruden, again, correctly challenged. The refs moved the ball up one yard, but still not enough for the lst down, forcing the Raiders to punt. Right then I knew we were in trouble. Then later in the game came the “tuck”.

    ====================================================
    I remember that. Refs screwed the Raids on that one. Gruden won the challenge, but still didn’t get the first down.

    The mechanism for determining where to place the ball on a ’spot’ challenge is extremely murky and problematic.

    I mean, think about it. Coach challenges the spot. Ref goes to the hood and watches the available replays. From that he can make a determination to move the ball one inch forward or backward.

    Sometimes it’s clear cut that the new placement should result in a first down. Other times it’s not so clear. Often we’re dealing with a situation where moving the ball an inch or two in either direction can have a huge impact on the game.

    Especially troubling are the instances where the challenge isn’t made by a coach, but instead comes within the last two minutes and is mandated by the replay booth upstairs.

    How the hell can that work correctly ? The booth official does what ? Watches the replay and then radios down to the ref to move the ball. How far ? 3 inches, 8.5 inches, a half yard ?

    It’s inexact bullcrap where exactitude is demanded.

    This is a problem area that needs to be thought over and a better methodology advented.

  346. raidertbone Says:

    It’s funny how the league desperately wants the Raiders to be both successful and relevant, while the majority of the bandwagon fans of other teams (and that no-good, deadbeat Warren Sapp) LOVE the Raiders to be whipping-boys!

  347. Raidernationdave Says:

    Indeed! Baggies all the waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay! “Win, lose or tie Baggie Nation til you die” just doesn’t have the same ring to it!!

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    La Milicia Negra Says:
    June 24th, 2012 at 6:45 pm

    =)

    thats your team, then I guess?

  348. Raidernationdave Says:

    That’s what it means to be a Raider fan.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++

    raidertbone Says:
    June 24th, 2012 at 7:20 pm

    It’s funny how the league desperately wants the Raiders to be both successful and relevant, while the majority of the bandwagon fans of other teams (and that no-good, deadbeat Warren Sapp) LOVE the Raiders to be whipping-boys!

  349. Raider O Says:

    I see LMN decided to continue being a bitter loser.
    1- there is a link posted with Italians chanting OLE. Stop being such an idiot!
    2- Google Italya. Real word. Arabs and Turks among others spell that way, but you wouldn’t know because you are ignorant.
    3- you stand by your statement about Holland being better Portugal because you don’t know soccer, and you depend on FIFA to tell you what to think.
    Tool!

  350. Raider O Says:

    http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=7&ved=0CFYQtwIwBg&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DkDOwZIRl7cY&ei=gZznT5nWBOrU2AWoi9DZCQ&usg=AFQjCNEgEN4ZgKKTDbfuk31zas4j80npQQ
    $$$$$$$$$$$

    You do know what the Italian flag looks like right LMN?
    What a tool!

  351. Raider O Says:

    Its either italy in english or italia in italian, italya isnt a word, if you were dyslexic it would be okay though..
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    true, but italya is just wrong, simple as that, i believe in Greek, they write it as italya, but thats it i think
    $$$$$$$$$

    You are such a little liar!
    You thought Greeks use it, but now it’s a word.
    Let me educate you AGAIN:
    http://tr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/İtalya

    Tool!

  352. Raider O Says:

    You are such a little liar!
    You thought Greeks use it, but now it’s not a word?!
    Let me educate you AGAIN:
    http://tr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/İtalya

    Tool!

    Stop embarrassing yourself.

  353. SR Raider Says:

    Viva Italia! Except the part about every game they are in being 0-0. Fricking boring

  354. Try Some Reality Says:

    Portugal v Spain should be interesting in a rematch of the World Cup 0-1 game 2 years ago.

  355. Try Some Reality Says:

    Interested to see what our Raider defense will look like this year. Anxious to see the “multiple” alignments. Players seem excited.

  356. SR Raider Says:

    The new defense should be worth 2 extra wins this year. It really was as bad as it can get with Bresny in charge

  357. Try Some Reality Says:

    Agree, Bresh’s D was terrible; especially to close out the year. Have high hopes for this season. A defense with much better coaching + healthy DMAC + full offseason for Palmer.

  358. Raidernationdave Says:

    Check this.

    5 appts. today. 4 Show. 4 test drive. 3 are written up. 1 can’t agree. 1 is wrong 4K in his trade. 1 is burning petrol!

    I love the car biz!

  359. Raidernationdave Says:

    Spain & Germany. Spain.

  360. Party Dude 80000 Says:

    :P

  361. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Raider O Says:
    June 24th, 2012 at 4:08 pm

    http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=7&ved=0CFYQtwIwBg&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DkDOwZIRl7cY&ei=gZznT5nWBOrU2AWoi9DZCQ&usg=AFQjCNEgEN4ZgKKTDbfuk31zas4j80npQQ
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Italians chanting OLE!!!
    Another thing LMN was wrong about.
    Do you really watch soccer?

    Vegas doesn’t know any better, but when you claim to know a lot since you watch 260 games, you should know this crap.

    Your ignorance is amazing.
    _____________________________________________________

    hey smartipants.. its not real italians, they are from toronto, probably even call the game soccer..

    read at the comments below, they to say Olé isnt a italian chant.

  362. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Raider O Says:
    June 24th, 2012 at 8:19 pm

    Its either italy in english or italia in italian, italya isnt a word, if you were dyslexic it would be okay though..
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    true, but italya is just wrong, simple as that, i believe in Greek, they write it as italya, but thats it i think
    $$$$$$$$$

    You are such a little liar!
    You thought Greeks use it, but now it’s a word.
    Let me educate you AGAIN:
    http://tr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/İtalya

    Tool!
    _____________________________________________________

    hey smartipants, so now you going to speak turkish and/or greek on this site? whats the point of that?

    so to sum up, a spanish chant for italy that you spell in a turkish kinda way?

    oh yeah thats skizo, I think I would dump the pipe for a month or two. and seek professional help..

  363. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Raidernationdave Says:
    June 24th, 2012 at 7:20 pm

    Indeed! Baggies all the waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay! “Win, lose or tie Baggie Nation til you die” just doesn’t have the same ring to it!!

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    La Milicia Negra Says:
    June 24th, 2012 at 6:45 pm

    =)

    thats your team, then I guess?
    _____________________________________________________

    good for you, we have had several danes playing in WBA, but none at the moment. I hope you will end up having a lovely day in the Midlands..

    btw, howcome did you become a baggie-fan?

  364. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Neil B..

    I guess it was a tough loss, my thoughts goes to you and your people!

  365. guest123 Says:

    Good morning Raider Nation!

  366. hwnrdr Says:

    Good Morning Nation!!!
    Amazing story!

  367. guest123 Says:

    Good morning Hwnrdr,

    I agree! Nice to see this story get some publicity. Proper hero work here.

  368. guest123 Says:

    Probably not a news item in California, but we are getting drenched with rain over here in Florida. TS Debbie is dumping buckets and it’s taking its time toward landfall. 5 inches last night alone. Some streets are completely flooded, & parking lots taped off. And we got another 4 solid days of this weather.

  369. Plunketthead Says:

    lol lmn

    You ask for it constantly and when it is dished out you allways make a larger imbecile of yourself. Your interests would be better served if you learned how to walk away instead of trying to impose your superiour intellect on all the non enlightened danes.

  370. Plunketthead Says:

    But I did not understand the baggie thing when Dave first brought it up and now that it has irked you I am more confused.

  371. Plunketthead Says:

    Morning Guest, Hwnrdr. I dunno about Florida but lots of the USA can really use it. Which way is it headed?

  372. hwnrdr Says:

    OUCH! Guest…I hope everything is alright where you are! And you’re right Plunket…we could use it! In California, from the first day of Summer…it’s been cold as heck! It’s like the earth switched poles on us!

  373. TxRaider210 Says:

    Good Morning Nation! Texas needs that rain..gonna be about 102 here all week:(

  374. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Man, one strike away from heckling the crap out of you A’s fans this morning!!!

    Great series though, every game came down to the final pitch.

  375. guest123 Says:

    TS Debbie is literally parked in the gulf and going nowhere. It’s not expected to make landfall until at least Friday. Spaghetti models have it projected to hit east of Panama City FL, maybe out to Apalachicola. It’s center isn’t moving, but the outer bands are throwing out storm bands that are drenching the west coast of Florida.

  376. Just Fire Baby Says:

    New Mexico has got 2.5 inches of rain……all year.

    My roses need to be watered almost twice a day, and my new tree’s are getting sun-burnt.

    Heck with the rain, I’ll just take some clouds, lol

  377. guest123 Says:

    Yeah, it’s kind of funny, a few weeks ago we were officially under drought status. Which meant we could only irrigate our lawns once a week with reclaimed water. But this is too much water. Storm drains are covered in standing water now.

  378. Bob Marley Says:

    Nice article on Tyvon Branch and his matchup with Ron Gronkowski last year, from pff.com:

    “How Branch shut down Gronkowski.

    Rob Gronkowski’s 2011 performance set all-time NFL records for a tight end for yardage (1,327) and touchdowns (17). He was one of the league’s most dominant forces and had such an impressive season that he ranked sixth in the PFF Top 101 players list.

    When he played the Oakland Raiders in Week 4 he was held to a single catch for 15 yards largely by the work of Tyvon Branch, who shut Gronkowski down like nobody else was able to manage all season.

    We took a look at Branch in a recent Secret Superstar article and noted how well he had played Gronkowski as well as other receiving tight ends, and decided to investigate further. So, just how did he do it?.

    The Raiders played almost exclusively man coverage in this game, which is obviously what they do best, but also an extremely gutsy thing to do against the Patriots who have a series of players built to destroy that strategy.

    Nevertheless, the Raiders are the only team all season to really shut down Gronkowski, and that is what we are going to look at.

    The majority of the work was done by Tyvon Branch, though the Raiders did occasionally replace him in coverage against Gronkowski with Joe Porter and Jerome Boyd. Whoever was over him, the game plan was the same: aggressive man coverage, engaging as soon as possible at the line.

    In essence, Branch was left on his own against Gronkowski most of the game, and simply beat him one-on-one, but there were some schematic quirks that the Raiders employed to help Branch out at times.

    When Gronkowski lined up in tight to the line, the Raiders often aligned their defensive end wide, essentially funneling Gronkowski’s release directly ahead between the defensive end and the defensive tackle on that side of the formation. This meant that he had to release into a channel and right into Branch, who would stack the gap and ensure that he could get his hands on the big tight end almost immediately.

    Branch is one of the few defensive backs in the league that is strong enough to deal with Gronkowsi coming straight at him, and this alignment meant that he didn’t have to contend with any fakes or sidesteps in the release.

    From that point, Branch could simply ride Gronkowski down the field as he tried to run his route. Safeties tracking big tight ends over the middle will get away with a lot more contact than corners out on the edge against wide receivers, and there were several plays in the course of this game that could easily have been penalties for the contact involved, and surely would have been had it been corner on receiver.

    The Patriots were obviously well aware of how effective the Raiders were at taking away Gronkowski, because they were quick to go to him if he was ever left open.

    With 1:22 to go in the first quarter, the Raiders started to do something a little different. They had Branch in man coverage with BenJarvus Green-Ellis out of the backfield, on the far side of the formation from Gronkowski. Instead of putting Porter or Boyd on him as they would opt to do elsewhere, they left Rolando McClain with the task of covering him.

    That was all Tom Brady needed to see, and he immediately went deep to Gronkowski up the seam. To McClain’s credit, he was in good position all the way through and made a solid play on the ball to deflect it away, but the job Oakland was doing on Gronkowski was clear, and any time Branch was not on him, Brady was going to try and get him the ball.

    His only reception of the game came with three seconds to go in the first quarter. Gronkowski was split out in the slot on the left of the formation and Tyvon Branch was once again in coverage, but this time playing off-man rather than press coverage at the line. The Patriots threw a quick out to the tight end and Branch had just left himself too much real estate to make up to stop the play.

    The reason Gronkowski was so unstoppable last season is because teams didn’t have players that could match up with him reliably and take him out of the game. He is also too big a target–and Brady too accurate a passer–to contain with zone coverage. He is a savvy enough receiver that he can attack the space between zones and Brady can get the football into those spaces, or high enough that only Gronkowski can come down with it, removing any chance the zone coverage has of stopping the plays.

    Oakland went a different route. They eschewed zone schemes in favor of their usual aggressive man coverage, and found a guy who could live with Gronkowski both athletically and physically at the line.

    In a league where players like Gronkowski and Jimmy Graham are becoming unstoppable forces as teams struggle to match up with them, everybody is looking for a safety with the kind of coverage skills to be matched up one-on-one and win.

    It turns out the Raiders have exactly what everybody is looking for in the shape of Tyvon Branch, who just might be the best man-coverage safety in the league.”

  379. guest123 Says:

    http://philliesnation.com/archives/2012/06/clearwater-facilities-flooded-by-storm/

    Here is a link to the Phillies minor league baseball team. The stadium is only a few miles from my home. It’s completly underwater now.

  380. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I should say ABQ has 2.5 inches of rain.

    The Northern part of the state, while mostly on fire right now, gets more rain and snow.

  381. hwnrdr Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 6:14 am
    Man, one strike away from heckling the crap out of you A’s fans this morning!!!

    Great series though, every game came down to the final pitch.

    Yeah, I heard the Coliseum got loud with one strike left, and then…
    I still scratch my head on how they win one with Cain pitching but lose on a night where Timmy F’d up again!

  382. Just Fire Baby Says:

    To McClain’s credit, he was in good position all the way through and made a solid play on the ball to deflect it away,

    *********************************

    Baller!!!!!

  383. guest123 Says:

    I watched “Moneyball” for the first time last night. I got goosebumps when they showed the walkway to OA Coliseum and the Raiders Shield Banner. Great movie!

  384. JR Says:

    Some of the guys on here argue about stupid stuff that has nothing to do with the Raiders at all.

    It is still a good blog though, and a lot of the comments are pretty funny.

    That being said, let’s see if the men in black can produce on the field.

  385. hwnrdr Says:

    Brien was saying that there were a lot of “Bay Area” fans there on Saturday…people wearing A’s jerseys adn Giants caps…and vice versa!

  386. Bob Marley Says:

    The final part of the article points out why Branch has a ton of value in this League:

    “In a league where players like Gronkowski and Jimmy Graham are becoming unstoppable forces as teams struggle to match up with them, everybody is looking for a safety with the kind of coverage skills to be matched up one-on-one and win.

    It turns out the Raiders have exactly what everybody is looking for in the shape of Tyvon Branch, who just might be the best man-coverage safety in the league.”

  387. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Titans hired former Raiders D-Line Coach Keith Millard [2005-2008]

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/06/25/titans-trying-to-teach-pass-rush-from-the-ground-up/

  388. JR Says:

    Branch is solid.

  389. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Timmy was lights out after the Belt screwup.

    His walks were bad, but really only one guy hit the ball well that inning. Crisp hit a seeing eyed ground ball, Weeks had the one solid hit, Reddick got it off the end of the bat, and than Belt screwed up the ground ball.

    Then he got like 18 of the next 21 batters out with 9 K’s.

    It might have been the best he looked all year!!!

  390. guest123 Says:

    When Gronkowski lined up in tight to the line, the Raiders often aligned their defensive end wide, essentially funneling Gronkowski’s release directly ahead between the defensive end and the defensive tackle on that side of the formation. This meant that he had to release into a channel and right into Branch, who would stack the gap and ensure that he could get his hands on the big tight end almost immediately.

    Branch is one of the few defensive backs in the league that is strong enough to deal with Gronkowsi coming straight at him, and this alignment meant that he didn’t have to contend with any fakes or sidesteps in the release.

    From that point, Branch could simply ride Gronkowski down the field as he tried to run his route.

    ***********

    At least some of the credit has to go to Chuck B and Al Davis for this.

  391. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Brien was saying that there were a lot of “Bay Area” fans there on Saturday…people wearing A’s jerseys adn Giants caps…and vice versa!

    ****************************

    Loud crowds for sure, and I would say on Sunday it seemed like more Giants fans.

    I know he probably hates that stuff, but it is good for baseball and the venue, to have a solid crowd on hand, even if both sides are representating.

    We can leave all the hooliganism to the Ole’ chanting soccer buffoons.

  392. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Mark Cuban schooled Skip Bayless..

    AWESOME!!

  393. hwnrdr Says:

    We can leave all the hooliganism to the Ole’ chanting soccer buffoons.

    LOL!

  394. Just Fire Baby Says:

    It turns out the Raiders have exactly what everybody is looking for in the shape of Tyvon Branch, who just might be the best man-coverage safety in the league.”

    **************************

    Hey just don’t ask him to sit in a zone, or else you get the Branch routine of gettting roasted, than turning and pointing fingers as the guy crosses the goalline.

  395. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    ASHAMED TO SAY I DO NOT MAKE AS MANY A’S GAMES AS I SHOULD..RAIDER TIX EAT UP MY ENTERTAINMENT BUDGET.WILL MAKE AT LEAST 2 THIS YEAR THOUGH. GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY..

  396. guest123 Says:

    Amazing that Skip Baseless even has a job. That he actually earned money to put food on his family’s table to spout crappy comments based on ignorance is a miracle. We should all switch the channel anytime he comes on. It would be like America summarily firing him. He’s not worthy of being called a suckwad. He’s not worthy of having his name mentioned at all.

  397. Just Fire Baby Says:

    The easiest position in baseball to fill is first base, yet the A’s don’t have anybody who can either field or hit over there.

    That Moss guy went 0 for 11 with 6 K’s, and had three errors in one inning.

    It was almost painful to watch.

  398. guest123 Says:

    I never really liked Mark Cuban, but he’s growing on me. At least he doesn’t pretend to be what he’s not. Maybe it’s just being asked to debate that dooshbag Bayless, who can make anyone look awesome.

  399. RaiderRockstar Says:

    here is all you need to know about Tyvon Branch:

    Based upon this article, it looks like Branch will be asking for something in the 7-8 million per year range:

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/06/20/michael-griffin-deal-a-blueprint-for-dashon-goldson/

    he’s average against both the run & pass. 1 or 2 games in 4 years don’t prove otherwise. but hey, he makes a bunch of tackles!!

    Gibril Wilson 2.0 will play out this season on the tag …

  400. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I like Stephen A though, so he makes that segment with Skip watchable.

    But yeah, when you play one side of the argument just to think your some type of contrarian, after awhile you become a caricature of yourself and lose all credibility.

    I think he has reached that fork in the road. Not sure there is enough good sports over the next few months to keep his job until he can start ranting about Tebow again.

  401. guest123 Says:

    There is no shame in “not having enough money” to go to sports events. And anyone who could find fault for that isn’t a friend. It doesn’t make you a bandwagon fan. Please don’t feel “shame” for anyone.

  402. hwnrdr Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 6:42 am
    The easiest position in baseball to fill is first base, yet the A’s don’t have anybody who can either field or hit over there.

    That Moss guy went 0 for 11 with 6 K’s, and had three errors in one inning.

    It was almost painful to watch.

    Moss, Barton…whatevers with those gys!
    Kila should have never been let go! And because his wife was having twins??? F Brad Pitt, ummm, I mean Billy Beane!

  403. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Cuban is awesome on Shark Tank!!

    That’s a pretty cool show, I might add.

  404. hwnrdr Says:

    guest123 Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 6:44 am
    There is no shame in “not having enough money” to go to sports events. And anyone who could find fault for that isn’t a friend. It doesn’t make you a bandwagon fan. Please don’t feel “shame” for anyone.

    AMEN!
    Dirt Lot, I feel ya! I haven’t been to an A’s game since 2001! And I barely remember that game! LOL
    I even been to a Warriors/Carlos Boozer led Utah Jazz game a few years ago…but I beleieve those tix wee free though, so couldn’t complain!

  405. RaiderRockstar Says:

    At least some of the credit has to go to Chuck B and Al Davis for this

    ***

    @G123

    Branch was truly awful before Chuck Bresnahan got a hold of him. Chuck B should get $3 million of what Branch makes on that tag this year imo.

    for all we know, he could revert back to turd status!?

  406. guest123 Says:

    F Brad Pitt, ummm, I mean Billy Beane!

    ************

    I liked the last few words of his daughters song in the movie Moneyball (closing credits). “You’re a loser dad, you’re a loser dad….”

  407. Bob Marley Says:

    JFB.

    Hey just don’t ask him to sit in a zone, or else you get the Branch routine of gettting roasted, than turning and pointing fingers as the guy crosses the goalline.
    ————————————————–

    I’m guessing that will change as DA and Tarver get the whole Defense used to playing more zone coverages and with an entire training camp to practice them, Bresnahan started playing more zone after Al died and the players looked like they didn’t really knew what they were doing, it’s hard to revamp things on the fly.

  408. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I’m cool with Branch, but I am not going to pretend like he is some elite Safety, at least yet.

    Good, yes. Maybe even one notch below Pro Bowl, I could listen to that argument.

    But he gives up big plays, doesn’t make too many big plays, and yet even though he doesn’t make many big plays, he still has a rehearsed Chi-Chi Rodriguez type celebration dance that bugs the piss out of me.

  409. RaiderRockstar Says:

    so far I can only remember 2 tweets about Branch at OTA’s

    #1 McFadden broke his ankles on a screen pass and make him look as clumsy as a D-Liner

    #2 Heyward-Bey dusted him for six and started dancing

    in all fairness, DMAC & King Darrius are going to do that to everyone in 2012 !!!

  410. hwnrdr Says:

    guest123 Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 6:48 am
    F Brad Pitt, ummm, I mean Billy Beane!

    ************

    I liked the last few words of his daughters song in the movie Moneyball (closing credits). “You’re a loser dad, you’re a loser dad….”

    LOL…you know, I refused to watch Moneyball because I never understood why they will make a movie on him when he has won NOTHING. But I probably will because everyone has told me…even a Giants fan, that the movie was worth seeing!

  411. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I haven’t been to an A’s game since 2001!

    ****************************

    The last A’s game I went to, was when Giambi pinch-hit a gamewinning HR against the Yankee’s in extra’s.

    I was drinking beer, so it had to have been between 01-03 (before I moved to Vegas).

  412. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    I HEAR U HWNRDR.DID NOT MAKE A GAME AT ALL LAST YEAR.

  413. RaiderRockstar Says:

    he gives up big plays, doesn’t make too many big plays

    ***

    thank you, JFB

    that sums up Ty Branch perfectly. Hopefully Year #5 he makes some huge transformation, like you guys are predicting

  414. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Read the book Hwnrdr, don’t give in too Hollywood’s nonsense reenactment.

  415. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Do you think we will have Branch return kicks??

    (Sorry, had to get my morning shot in at Hue)

  416. guest123 Says:

    Perhaps the best argument that I can make for signing Tyvon Branch long term is that whatever he is right now, probowl level or just a rung below, he’s a rare commodity in the NFL right now. It’s like Moneyball. You don’t just replace a Branch on the open market like you do Bartell and Spencer. The safety position is become the most important position on the field to have locked down secure. And there’s only so many good ones in the league. So by that measure, better to pay the man than tinker and experiment with used spare parts and pray that the parade of 5000 yard passing QB’s doesn’t burn us time and time again.

  417. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I haven’t been to an A’s game in like 7 or 8 years (more recently than Hwnrdr, and I live in Podunk!)

    I think it was like $5 for a ticket in the nosebleeds. It was boring as heck. I can’t even remember who they were playing against or if they won!

    It was a good time with friends though… all that matters

  418. hwnrdr Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 6:55 am
    Read the book Hwnrdr, don’t give in too Hollywood’s nonsense reenactment.

    Yeah I heard the book was better! Well, it always is right? I did hear that they got the scores in the outfield correct and that one lady holding the sign “We will never lose again” was actually real footage! I mean, yeah, that year was amazing when the A’s won 20 in a row, but like the Spurs this year…means nothing!!!

  419. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I would rather pay Asomugha $15 million per year than Branch $8 million per year …

  420. guest123 Says:

    LOL…you know, I refused to watch Moneyball because I never understood why they will make a movie on him when he has won NOTHING. But I probably will because everyone has told me…even a Giants fan, that the movie was worth seeing!

    ********

    Hwnrdr,

    You really do need to see it. Billy Beane (Brad Pitt) was offered $12.5M to be the Red Sux GM and he turned it down. Because he said the only game worth winning is the last game of the World Series. He said he hated losing more than he loved winning, (and he said there was a difference). I love Billy Beane’s style. You have to watch this movie. They detail the A’s 20 game win streak in 2002 and Scott Hatteburg’s walkoff homer to win the 20th game. It was a good movie, a little long, but a good flick.

  421. hwnrdr Says:

    LOL, ok…thanks Rockstar! You just made me fee bad…lol!

  422. hwnrdr Says:

    Guest, I probably will! Just at the time, I was like, huh? Why not make a movie on Al? At least he won 3… :)

  423. Just Fire Baby Says:

    The safety position is become the most important position on the field to have locked down secure.

    *************************

    Really?

    I don’t think I could name more than one of the starting safeties for the Pats and Giants.

    D-line is most important part of defense right now, IMO. You give any QB 3-4 seconds in a clean pocket, you can have Ed Reed and Jack Tatum back there, you will still get roasted.

  424. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Do you think we will have Branch return kicks??

    ***

    if sleepy dwarf #12 doesn’t wake the heck up and hold on to the football – yes. JFORD will be surpassed by Criner this year and some Raider fans [JFB] think Lou Murphy is better. Ford probably won’t win the PR job is he’s muffing punts like crazy at non-contact OTA’s

    best case scenario I think for him is 3rd WR, KR specialist.
    worst case 5th WR and trade bait next offseason

  425. guest123 Says:

    I would rather pay Asomugha $15 million per year than Branch $8 million per year …

    *******

    really? what plays does Aso ever make to deserve that kind of scratch?

  426. Marks hair Says:

    We need a passrushing end..

  427. RaiderRockstar Says:

    The safety position is become the most important position on the field to have locked down secure.

    ***

    Gibril Wilson won a Super Bowl with the Giants, is that why you think Tyvon Branch can win one with the Raiders ??

  428. Just Fire Baby Says:

    We need a passrushing end..

    *************************

    Yup, and that may have to wait until next year.

    I think our pass-rushing “end” is going to be someone blitzing from the back 7 this year.

  429. Marks hair Says:

    Our D will struggle unless nasty & houston have breakout yrs as pass rushers..

  430. RaiderRockstar Says:

    what plays does Aso ever make to deserve that kind of scratch?

    ***

    @G123

    #21 shuts down one half of the field.

    #33 shuts down the dance clubs with those Chi-Chi Rodriguez dancing moves!!

  431. Just Fire Baby Says:

    It’s not about hitting the QB from the edge, it’s about disrupting rhythm, be it by getting your hands up quickly and in the passing windows, or flying by the QB fast enough to force him to move his feet a little.

    You can’t be like Wimbley and either get a quick sack, or get shoved right out of the play and be a non-factor. You have to have some action in between all that.

  432. guest123 Says:

    To say that one position is more important doesn’t give a pass to the other 10 players on the field. It’s a team sport, and so if you have a weak DL the other team will be sure to exploit that. All good offensive coordinators pick on the weakness. Just saying that Branch is a strength on the defense and allows us to focus in on weaker components like the DL and QB pressure and improve there without worrying about safety.

  433. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I think our pass-rushing “end” is going to be someone blitzing from the back 7 this year.

    ***

    @JFB

    Wheeler says #55 is flying all over the field like a speed demon.

    pass rusher = McGunshots ??

  434. TxRaider210 Says:

    guest123 Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 7:03 am
    I would rather pay Asomugha $15 million per year than Branch $8 million per year …

    *******

    really? what plays does Aso ever make to deserve that kind of scratch?

    —————————-
    Aso was getting burned left and right in Philly’s defensive scheme last year. Did you hear him bashing the receiver position saying it was the easiest in football? Bet he doesn’t have the stones to cross the middle and catch a ball..

  435. guest123 Says:

    We need a passrushing end..

    ***********

    Lamarr Houston, to the white courtesy phone.

  436. Marks hair Says:

    You cant blitz all the time. Last yr, over and over the line needed a pass rush to give us the win, but no.. Same line, same problems..

  437. TxRaider210 Says:

    I believe Shonasty, Wheeler, Bryant and Burris will fix our pass rushing issues this season..imo

  438. RaiderRockstar Says:

    All good offensive coordinators pick on the weakness. Just saying that Branch is a strength on the defense and allows us to focus in on weaker components like the DL and QB pressure and improve there without worrying about safety.

    ***

    @G123

    Chuck B made Tyvon Branch what he is today [whatever that is]. He elevated his game to average

    Still – I would venture to guess that he personally gave up 30 passing TD’s in his first 4 seasons

    no QB in the league is going to avoid Tyvon Branch, unless he’s coming on a safety blitz!

  439. Just Fire Baby Says:

    pass rusher = McGunshots ??

    *************************

    In the Lions game they just re-aired, he was EXTREMELY effective blitzing.

    Got one sack and just missed another when Stafford threw it away.

  440. guest123 Says:

    A healthy Shaughnessy at RDE and a focused, recommitted Lamarr Houston at LDE sprinkled with Tollefson/Crawford on passing downs is going to make life in the pocket a dangerous place for opposing QB’s. They won’t get 3.5 to 4 seconds to make their reads. They’re going to have to settle for 2.5 to 3 seconds.

  441. Marks hair Says:

    Actually, blitzing has been the only thing romac has been good at so far.. They should have sent him more. Stupid brez..

  442. RaiderRockstar Says:

    @JFB

    if we’re going OPERATION NECK-SNAPPER on Peyton Manning, I vote for #55 to be the blitz guy more than once

  443. guest123 Says:

    Aso was getting burned left and right in Philly’s defensive scheme last year. Did you hear him bashing the receiver position saying it was the easiest in football? Bet he doesn’t have the stones to cross the middle and catch a ball..

    *********

    Remember Julio Jones personally made Aso his biatch in that one game last year. Aso isn’t shutting down even his own man anymore. But feel free to overpay the man.

  444. Thec Says:

    if sleepy dwarf #12 doesn’t wake the heck up and hold on to the football – yes. JFORD will be surpassed by Criner this year and some Raider fans [JFB] think Lou Murphy is better. Ford probably won’t win the PR job is he’s muffing punts like crazy at non-contact OTA’s

    best case scenario I think for him is 3rd WR, KR specialist.
    worst case 5th WR and trade bait next offseason

    ++++++++++

    The moment we drafted Criner, JFORD was relegated to #3 status…

    1A. DMO
    1B. CRI
    3. JFORD
    4. DHB
    5. LMURPHY

  445. TxRaider210 Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 7:15 am
    @JFB

    if we’re going OPERATION NECK-SNAPPER on Peyton Manning, I vote for #55 to be the blitz guy more than once

    ——————————-
    I think Miles Burris will be the star of OPERATION NECK-SNAPPER, coming off the edge behind Shonasty.imo

  446. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Rolando lead the league in sacks for a MLB, and was like 3rd or 4th amongst all “ILB”.

  447. Just Fire Baby Says:

    DHB #4 Thec?

    I have flip-flopped on DHB more than a weak presidential candidate, but I think he will lead our team in catches and yards recieving this year.

  448. Bob Marley Says:

    Really?

    I don’t think I could name more than one of the starting safeties for the Pats and Giants.

    —————————————————

    The Giants have two 1st round picks as their starting Safeties in Kenny Phillips who they drafted and Antrel Rolle who they signed to a five-year, $37 million contract with $15 million guaranteed back in 2010.

    And the Pats have Patrick Chung, a 2nd round pick (34th) in 2009 and I’m not sure who starts opposite him.

    Rolle, Phillips and Chung are all pretty good.

  449. RaiderRockstar Says:

    you’re right G-Money

    #21 was only useful in an Al Davis man2man defense

    zone ?? fuggitaboutit!!

  450. MistaBrown Says:

    If Criner turns out to be a gem we could have the deepest WR crew in a LONG time. When 1 guy goes down we are no longer “screwed”.

    #depth

  451. guest123 Says:

    I don’t see DHB leading the team in catches, yardage, or anything (maybe dropped passes). If he can’t execute the route tree with precision and correct hand placement and in-air ball adjustment, he’ll dissapear on the depth chart.

  452. Marks hair Says:

    But blitzing aside, it will come down to the d-line play, and im worried about having runstopping ends & passrushing tackles. Again..

  453. MistaBrown Says:

    Murphy and his alligator arms can’t hit the road…

  454. RaiderRockstar Says:

    3. JFORD
    4. DHB

    ***

    @Thec

    ford > heyward bey – LOL!!

    King Darrius = #1 WR

  455. RaiderRockstar Says:

    went to see Snow White & the Huntsman yesterday …

    Good Movie !!

    no filth, family friendly

  456. guest123 Says:

    The hard part of preseason is that there is no tape of Criner “in a Raider uniform”. What little tape of him is his college tape and it’s not THAT impressive. But I don’t care about that college tape anyway. If Cork and Jerry are excited about Criner, so am I. But I’m not ready to shuffle the depth chart to him as the #2 wideout. I got to see it to believe it. But Criner sure looks like he could be as special as DMo17.

  457. Marks hair Says:

    DHB can get off the line at yhe snap. His db usually plays waay off.. 7-10 yds most of the time.. Criner hasnt faced contact yet.. Lets not get too crazy about criners hof career yet.

  458. guest123 Says:

    Murphy and his alligator arms can’t hit the road…

    ******

    or rather CAN hit the road….

    Murph will no longer be a Raider by the end of preseason week #3. That’s my prediction.

    Streater should be a lock, and someone with a healthy groin/hammy will take the WR#6 spot

  459. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Bob,

    I knew of Rolle, who is very good.

    Pat Chung is OK I would say, only started half their games last year, better on teams and in the run game.

  460. guest123 Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 7:28 am
    went to see Snow White & the Huntsman yesterday …

    Good Movie !!

    no filth, family friendly

    **********

    Really? that’s surprising. the trailer was too scary to allow my kids to watch. But they did watch all the Harry Potter films. Thanks for the report.

  461. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Murphy will have more recieving yards and TD’s than Jacoby Ford this season, and Rod Streeter?

    Come on man!!! He will be lucky to make the 53 unless he can play a lot of special teams.

    Practice squad fodder

  462. Marks hair Says:

    Streater is ahead of criner acording to allen.

  463. RaiderRockstar Says:

    @G123

    no swearing, sexual innuendos or anything

    family man with swagger gots to go see Snow White & the Huntsman !

    Harry Potter films are for guys like Cedric Benson :P

  464. Thec Says:

    Marks hair Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 7:29 am
    DHB can get off the line at yhe snap. His db usually plays waay off.. 7-10 yds most of the time.. Criner hasnt faced contact yet.. Lets not get too crazy about criners hof career yet.

    ++++++++

    Who said HOf????

    I call them like i see them.
    Called DMO
    Called JFORD
    Now calling Criner.

    How about you call something, and see if it comes to true???

  465. guest123 Says:

    But blitzing aside, it will come down to the d-line play, and im worried about having runstopping ends & passrushing tackles. Again..

    ********

    Again, healthy Shonasty on one side, and a rotation of Houston, Tollefson/Crawford on the other. And lots of exotic blitz packages. This won’t be like your typical Al Davis Raiders. Oughta be fun.

  466. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Rod Streeter?

    Come on man!!! He will be lucky to make the 53 unless he can play a lot of special teams.

    Practice squad fodder

    ***

    @JFB

    Streater = Will Buchanon?

  467. Thec Says:

    Marks hair Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 7:34 am
    Streater is ahead of criner acording to allen.

    ++++++

    Is this an acutal quote, or intepretation on what has happened in camp?

    was Criner EVER getting 1st team reps?

  468. Marks hair Says:

    They asked allen why is streater getting snaps with the 1st team over criner. He said he earned it.

  469. guest123 Says:

    Harry Potter films are for guys like Cedric Benson

    *******

    Hey! I liked those movies. My 9 yr old (at the time) read each book and then got to see the last movie last summer in the theater. I have to agree with you though, some of the Harry Potter fans have something in common with your boy Cedric. LOL

  470. Thec Says:

    Marks hair Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 7:38 am
    They asked allen why is streater getting snaps with the 1st team over criner. He said he earned it.

    +++++++

    Was criner EVER getting 1st team reps???

    How about you put your neck on the line call a player, say he will be good then see what happens???

  471. Thec Says:

    Murph will no longer be a Raider by the end of preseason week #3. That’s my prediction.

    +++++++

    LMURPHY has NFL experience… He will not get replaced by a Ps player…

  472. Marks hair Says:

    464. I’ll call cp3 has his best #s as a pro this yr..

  473. Thec Says:

    Marks hair Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 7:41 am
    464. I’ll call cp3 has his best #s as a pro this yr..

    ++++++

    wow, thats going out on a limb…lol

  474. Marks hair Says:

    I dont have the actual quote. I think it was a tales from the darkside post.

  475. Marks hair Says:

    Lol. He’s had good yrs..

  476. guest123 Says:

    LMURPHY has NFL experience… He will not get replaced by a Ps player…

    ******

    Lotta dudes have NFL experience and are cut to make room for UDFA type players. Happens every year on every team.

  477. Just Fire Baby Says:

    How about you call something, and see if it comes to true???

    ***********************

    Zingeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!

  478. RaiderRockstar Says:

    cp3 has his best #s as a pro this yr..

    ***

    Palmer’s best year was 2005, when he threw for 3836 yards, 32 TD’s and just 12 INT’s. QB Rating of 101. completed 67.8 % of his passes. even had a rushing TD!

    made the Pro Bowl. Cincy went 11-5 & won that division

  479. RaiderRockstar Says:

    On January 8, 2006, the Bengals met their division rival Pittsburgh in the first round of the AFC playoffs at Paul Brown Stadium in Cincinnati.

    On the Bengals’ first pass play, Carson Palmer threw a 66-yard pass to rookie receiver Chris Henry. It was the longest completion in Bengals playoff history. After Palmer released the pass, Steelers defensive tackle Kimo von Oelhoffen dove at Palmer’s left leg, violently wrenching Palmer’s knee, and he was forced to leave the game. A magnetic resonance imaging test revealed a severe knee injury, thought to be career-threatening at the time; Palmer had tears of both the anterior cruciate and medial collateral ligaments as well as cartilage and meniscus damage. Coincidentally, Henry himself suffered a knee injury on the same play, though far less severe. Having knocked Palmer out of the game the Steelers went on to win 31–17.

    During the off-season, the league’s Rules Committee modified the rule regarding low hits on quarterbacks. The new rule prohibited defenders from hitting a passer at or below the knee unless they are blocked into him. The so-called “Oelhoffen Rule” now requires that defenders take every opportunity to avoid hitting a quarterback at or below the knees when the quarterback is in a defenseless position looking to throw with both feet on the ground

  480. Marks hair Says:

    I dont know about the award or the team record. But I think cp can beat those #s..

  481. Thec Says:

    guest123 Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 7:47 am
    LMURPHY has NFL experience… He will not get replaced by a Ps player…

    ******

    Lotta dudes have NFL experience and are cut to make room for UDFA type players. Happens every year on every team.

    +++++++++

    If you beleive so strongly lay it down…
    LMUPHRY was injured, and played well when he was in.
    He adds good depth to the WR position…

  482. Just Fire Baby Says:

    As good as Jacoby looked in 2010, and as bad as Lou looked in 2011, Murphy still has more catches and recieving yards in the 2 years combined, and actually has a higher yards per carry average.

  483. Thec Says:

    Not sure where the LMUPRHY getting cut is intel is coming from.

    This may just be something else for us to argue about…

  484. guest123 Says:

    If you beleive so strongly lay it down…
    LMUPHRY was injured, and played well when he was in.
    He adds good depth to the WR position…

    ********

    I thought I did lay it down. I can be quoted saying I don’t think Murph makes the cut. And I don’t disagree that he provides good EXPERIENCED depth at the position. It’s just that the WR group as a whole is as strong as a Raider WR group has been in ages. It’s not that Murph wouldn’t be a lock in any other year when the competition was wide open. But now the crew is so strong….

    I expect there to be so many stepping up their game that there won’t be room for a depth wideout like Murphy, but if he’s healthy and can contribute to ST’s, then he can make the team based on that alone. But he’s got less upside than some of the other “PS” type players who are younger and less banged up.

  485. Thec Says:

    All the competition at WR, and all the positions for that matter should in fact raise the level of performance for the NATION.

    We need some competition at MLB…

  486. Just Fire Baby Says:

    We need some competition at MLB…

    **********************

    Well we do have some level of competition.

    Rolando’s inner-demons competes for his sanity, lol.

  487. guest123 Says:

    Not sure where the LMUPRHY getting cut is intel is coming from.

    *********

    It’s not INTEL, just a WAG.

  488. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Rolando’s inner-demons competes for his sanity

    ***

    LOL!!

  489. Thec Says:

    I thought I did lay it down.

    +++++++++

    lay down some coin…
    Examples;
    $25 gift certificate to Ralphs
    $50 Seattle’s best card
    Jcriner Authentic jersey
    Bottle of your favorite booze

  490. guest123 Says:

    Whatever plan we have for MLB, I hope they don’t include any heavy doses of Goethal or Curry. I’d like to see what this Burris kid has in him. Agreed that the LB crew is wide open and probably need to carry extra LB’s this yr.

  491. Thec Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 8:07 am
    Rolando’s inner-demons competes for his sanity

    ++++++++++

    ROFLMAO…..Clean up on aile 7, coffee in keyboard…

  492. RaiderRockstar Says:

    @Thec

    G123 has not been shy on his Murph prediction. thinks he’s a goner this offseason

    I think it depends on a few things, gator arms not included:

    #1 his health
    #2 health of the other WR’s
    #3 how many WR’s are we keeping on the roster?

  493. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Clean up on aile 7, coffee in keyboard

    ***

    @Thec

    a bunch of other semi pro’s have sticky keyboards for different reasons!!

    right Mike?

    that Betty White screensaver is a killer every time

  494. Thec Says:

    I’d like to see what this Burris kid has in him.

    +++++++

    I agree with ya here Bruh…This young man has the “IT” factor…

    3 guys we drafted have the “IT” factor…

    CRINER
    BURRIS
    CHRISTO

    All 3 will be Impactors…

  495. TxRaider210 Says:

    I believe if Murph is healthy and still a ST contributor, he will make the roster some how. Dude plays with passion when healthy and on the field.imo

  496. TxRaider210 Says:

    Thec Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 8:11 am
    I’d like to see what this Burris kid has in him.

    +++++++

    I agree with ya here Bruh…This young man has the “IT” factor…

    3 guys we drafted have the “IT” factor…

    CRINER
    BURRIS
    CHRISTO

    All 3 will be Impactors…

    ————————–
    Agreed, but I think Crawford will see more time than Christo.

  497. Just Fire Baby Says:

    $50 Seattle’s best card

    ***********************

    Damn brother you need to lay off the caffeine!!!

    50 smacks at the coffee house?

  498. Thec Says:

    I think it depends on a few things, gator arms not included:

    #1 his health
    #2 health of the other WR’s
    #3 how many WR’s are we keeping on the roster?

    ++++++++

    I think we keep 6 however, 7 would not be a bad idea if guys like Streat, Gee, & Cal can play special….

  499. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Wouldn’t it be funny to see 3 AFC West QB’s in the Pro Bowl?

    Palmer, Rivers & Manning?

    then Tom Brady gets left out :)

  500. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I think Crawford will be the lemon of the draft.

    A little too much John Amaechi in him for my liking.

  501. guest123 Says:

    @ Rockstar post 492,

    Correct on all counts. I’ve got nothing personally against Murph. Seems like a decent fellow. It’s just that right now WR’s we got are ballers with limited room for ‘depth’ guys anymore.

  502. Thec Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 8:13 am
    $50 Seattle’s best card

    ***********************

    Damn brother you need to lay off the caffeine!!!

    50 smacks at the coffee house?

    ++++++++

    hahahahahaha…

    Seattles best is the best commerical coffee IMO…
    It is taking over Cali through the gas stations.

    $50 dollar card would last 1.5 months…

  503. TxRaider210 Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 8:14 am
    I think Crawford will be the lemon of the draft.

    A little too much John Amaechi in him for my liking.

    ———————————
    I just give him the edge because he played tougher competition in college than Bilukidi did..

  504. guest123 Says:

    I think Crawford is going to surprise you. He’s going to provide the pressure off the line that Houston could not. Limited rotational pressure. Crawford is gonna stick.

  505. RaiderRockstar Says:

    7 would not be a bad idea if guys like Streat, Gee, & Cal can play special….

    ***

    @Thec

    I think these 3 guys are competing for 1 roster spot.

    other 2 guys may be stashed away on the practice squad, if deemed worthy

  506. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Damn brother you need to lay off the caffeine!!!

    50 smacks at the coffee house?

    ***

    @JFB

    at Starbucks that would be like 10 days worth, 5 if you brought your spouse

    RRS = Folgers guy

  507. guest123 Says:

    If it’s anyone I don’t feel as good about (at least for now) it’s Bilukidi. He’s not faced this type of competition and has a deer-in-the-headlights look to him (from his interviews). It’s early. I hope he proves himself. But I just don’t see this small school kid making it.

  508. Just Fire Baby Says:

    He didn’t make much of an impact at Penn State.

    Seems to have been an “upside” pick.

    I like the Georgia State kid, but in all seriousness I and probably most of everyone here, didn’t see much of either play.

    Just a hunch.

  509. Just Fire Baby Says:

    You will laugh, but I drink decaffeinated tea in the AM.

    Warms up the pipes and gives me the placebo effect, without the 11am crash.

  510. TxRaider210 Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 8:19 am
    Damn brother you need to lay off the caffeine!!!

    50 smacks at the coffee house?

    ***

    @JFB

    at Starbucks that would be like 10 days worth, 5 if you brought your spouse

    RRS = Folgers guy

    ———————
    Lol I’m lucky enough to get a Seattle’s best and a banana for $1.25 every morning. The perks of working in a huge Army hospital.

  511. guest123 Says:

    RRS = Folgers guy

    *********

    G123 = Maxwell House (community coffee in the break room) that costs $1 per week. Tastes crappy, but what can you expect with public restroom spigot water?

  512. Thec Says:

    other 2 guys may be stashed away on the practice squad, if deemed worthy

    +++++++++

    I hope we can keep then hidden from the vultures…
    Good to have guys that can play however, something tells me we wont be having the injury bug we had last year. The lockout hurt the NFL as a whole.

  513. RaiderRockstar Says:

    How much better is Jack Crawford than guys like Mason Brodine, Hall Davis & Wayne Dorsey ??

    How much better is Christo Bilukidi than guys like Travis Ivey, Jamie Cumbie & Dominique Hamilton ??

    Are Crawford & Bilukidi considered “locks” just because they were drafted by Reggie?

    no more scholarships! may the best man win!

  514. TxRaider210 Says:

    guest123 Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 8:19 am
    If it’s anyone I don’t feel as good about (at least for now) it’s Bilukidi. He’s not faced this type of competition and has a deer-in-the-headlights look to him (from his interviews). It’s early. I hope he proves himself. But I just don’t see this small school kid making it.

    ————————-
    I think Reggie expects all of the picks this year to stick…I thought I read that he locked them in(except Criner) to 4 yrs contracts..

  515. Thec Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 8:21 am
    You will laugh, but I drink decaffeinated tea in the AM.

    Warms up the pipes and gives me the placebo effect, without the 11am crash.

    +++++++++

    that is a shock to me… I see you as a triple expresso kinda guy.

  516. Thec Says:

    Lol I’m lucky enough to get a Seattle’s best and a banana for $1.25 every morning. The perks of working in a huge Army hospital.

    +++++++++

    Free seattles best? You are very fortunate.

  517. Just Fire Baby Says:

    that is a shock to me… I see you as a triple expresso kinda guy.

    ************************

    Not to get too deep here, but sobriety has unleashed the inner triple expresso in me.

  518. R8ER MIKE Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 8:11 am
    Clean up on aile 7, coffee in keyboard

    ***

    @Thec

    a bunch of other semi pro’s have sticky keyboards for different reasons!!

    right Mike?

    that Betty White screensaver is a killer every time

    ********************************
    LMAO !!!
    good thing i cover the keyboard in plastic !!!

  519. Thec Says:

    no more scholarships! may the best man win!

    +++++++++++

    The mediots are going to have a hard time with this concept. Most of them have ZERO idea of what is goiong on with the NATION.

  520. RaiderRockstar Says:

    G123 = Maxwell House (community coffee in the break room) that costs $1 per week. Tastes crappy, but what can you expect with public restroom spigot water?

    ***

    seriously LOL, G123

    community coffee in the break room @ my work = Rituals South American Blend or something like that. probably the cheapest crap they could find. tastes like dirt. I brew my own at home and bring it with me to work every day

  521. RaiderRockstar Says:

    sobriety has unleashed the inner triple expresso in me.

    ***

    @JFB

    tell your boy McCrohns to sober up! we need him!

  522. Thec Says:

    LMAO !!!
    good thing i cover the keyboard in plastic !!!

    ++++++

    I need to invest in one… I have blown coffee on a few keyboards reading this blog.

  523. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Sometimes I soak the water I am going to use for my tea the night before in cinnamon sticks.

    Passionate about decaf tea, love my rose garden, have a 8 pound dog……I am the biggest Right-wing hippy you will ever meet!!

  524. guest123 Says:

    There’s a starbucks drivethru on the way to work and another one building over. But I’m too cheap to pay $2+ a cup for coffee. I’ve ruined my tastebuds enough to grind thru the Maxwell House and spit out the coffee grounds at the bottom of my cup.

  525. guest123 Says:

    I am the biggest Right-wing hippy you will ever meet!!

    ********

    What a paradox. I’m probably the biggest left-wing conservative you will ever meet!!

  526. RaiderRockstar Says:

    by the way, kudos and much props for conquering your inner demons, Vegas…

    Congrats to Mrs. Fire Baby as well for sticking with you and slapping some sense into ya!

    you say your wife is slowly becoming a football fan. I would encourage her to watch some Youtube clips of a guy named ‘Johnnie Lee Higgins’ to see what wide receiver & punt return excellence looks like, thank you

  527. guest123 Says:

    Youtube search: Johnnie Lee Higgins + Eric Weddle

  528. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Youtube search: Johnnie Lee Higgins + Eric Weddle

    ***

    G123 = SD fan ??

  529. Method To My Madness Says:

    Vegas…fk you and your g@y ass Giants…be happy Bob Melvin is the idiot manager he was in Az…was at game Saturday and it was truly embarrassing to watch them let another one get away….dont matter becuz both teams will be giving congrats to the WS champ come October

    Beane please step down
    Fire Melvin
    send Tyson Ross to bullpen
    release Blevins
    and Lew Wolff kick the can like FailKell should

  530. RaiderRockstar Says:

    JLH would be a Pro Bowler if he could ever get signed by another NFL team, lol

    DMAC reports he runs a successful ice cream truck business though …

  531. Method To My Madness Says:

    499.RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 8:14 am
    Wouldn’t it be funny to see 3 AFC West QB’s in the Pro Bowl?

    Palmer, Rivers & Manning?

    then Tom Brady gets left out

    ****************

    Brady would have to get injured like 2008 season for him to be left out….Palmer’s days as a pro bowler have come and gone…be serious

  532. guest123 Says:

    Manning won’t see another probowl in his lifetime. The Broncos career nuggett will be like trying to remember Joe Namath as an LA Ram. He’s done and he doesn’t know it yet.

  533. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I would encourage her to watch some Youtube clips of a guy named ‘Johnnie Lee Higgins’ to see what wide receiver & punt return excellence looks like, thank you

    **************************

    The wifey remembers JLH, and was a fan of the endzone celebrations.

  534. theghostronin79 Says:

    It’s all good because Palmer doesn’t HAVE to be a Pro Bowler. He just has to be good enough to support the Run, and move the chains when he needs to. Keep the Defense honest with some deep strikes now and then, and don’t turn it over. That’s all we need out of Palmer.

  535. TxRaider210 Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 8:35 am
    by the way, kudos and much props for conquering your inner demons, Vegas…

    Congrats to Mrs. Fire Baby as well for sticking with you and slapping some sense into ya!

    you say your wife is slowly becoming a football fan. I would encourage her to watch some Youtube clips of a guy named ‘Johnnie Lee Higgins’ to see what wide receiver & punt return excellence looks like, thank you

    ——————–
    Hilarious! Higgins can teach em how to stanky leg too!

  536. Raider O Says:

    hey smartipants, so now you going to speak turkish and/or greek on this site? whats the point of that?

    so to sum up, a spanish chant for italy that you spell in a turkish kinda way?

    oh yeah thats skizo, I think I would dump the pipe for a month or two. and seek professional help..
    $$$$$$$$

    What a tool!
    Learn to admit when you are wrong, and go educate yourself. Your ignorance is embarrassing.
    I posted links showing Italians chanting Ole and Italya as a real word.
    You are an ignorant bitter loser.

  537. Just Fire Baby Says:

    dont matter becuz both teams will be giving congrats to the WS champ come October

    ***************************

    We will be playing meaningful ball in October, and with our staff, we always have a chance.

    The pen will be our downfall, as I said the moment The Beard went down.

    WE won the Series, because we turned the game into a 7 inning game. Lopez, Affledt and others in the 8th, Willy in the 9th, and it was game over 100% of the time.

    Casilla isn’t ready for the moment. I think we will trade for an ex-closer type for the stretch run.

  538. guest123 Says:

    I’m also in the camp we don’t need or want CP3 to be a probowl QB. What we need is for DMAC to be the starting RB of the AFC probowl team. And CP3 to be top 10 statistically.

  539. MistaBrown Says:

    *can
    That was an obvious typo.
    _____

    guest123 Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 7:31 am

    Murphy and his alligator arms can’t hit the road…

    ******

    or rather CAN hit the road….

    Murph will no longer be a Raider by the end of preseason week #3. That’s my prediction.

  540. Raider O Says:

    hey smartipants.. its not real italians, they are from toronto, probably even call the game soccer..
    $$$$$$$$

    Real Italians?!?!
    Tool!

  541. Method To My Madness Says:

    534.theghostronin79 Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 8:46 am
    It’s all good because Palmer doesn’t HAVE to be a Pro Bowler. He just has to be good enough to support the Run, and move the chains when he needs to. Keep the Defense honest with some deep strikes now and then, and don’t turn it over. That’s all we need out of Palmer.

    *****************

    Exactly!…that’s all I need…but this notion that he is a top 10 qb or a pro bowl qb needs to stop…he isnt the stud he was back in 05-06 but i think he can play solid granted he plays within himself

    Having a healthy DMAC is obviously a plus but I truly believe Juron Criner will play a big role in giving Carson the big target he needs to move the chains.

    I’m just heavily concerned about our RT spot…Barnes is a loser and Wang is really an unknown for us

  542. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Palmer gives us a chance to win those tight games where we need to generate points in about 50 seconds.

    Between Jamarcus, Walter, The Bruce, Soup……that was never an option.

    It was basically wait for the inevitable sack/fumble, and then watch people blame the O-line, lol.

  543. Method To My Madness Says:

    537.Just Fire Baby Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 8:48 am
    dont matter becuz both teams will be giving congrats to the WS champ come October

    ***************************

    We will be playing meaningful ball in October, and with our staff, we always have a chance.

    The pen will be our downfall, as I said the moment The Beard went down.

    WE won the Series, because we turned the game into a 7 inning game. Lopez, Affledt and others in the 8th, Willy in the 9th, and it was game over 100% of the time.

    Casilla isn’t ready for the moment. I think we will trade for an ex-closer type for the stretch run.

    ******************

    Giants defense sucks…you will only get into playoffs because you will prolly get last wildcard…but then again…2nd place is last place in pro sports…Giants aint winning anyone’s world series again…but you Giant fans were sure juiced after your win heading home on bart to participate inyour ANNUAL PRIDE parade…was funny this one Giant fan would shut up and got slepted by this bad ass tatted us Mexican cat who was from the Murder Dubs

  544. Method To My Madness Says:

    542.Just Fire Baby Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 8:52 am
    Palmer gives us a chance to win those tight games where we need to generate points in about 50 seconds.

    Between Jamarcus, Walter, The Bruce, Soup……that was never an option.

    It was basically wait for the inevitable sack/fumble, and then watch people blame the O-line, lol.

    ************************

    Hell when? I dont see that guy at all….2 minutes I’ll give ya…under a minute we are chalked with that lead foot guy

  545. guest123 Says:

    I’m just heavily concerned about our RT spot…Barnes is a loser and Wang is really an unknown for us

    *********

    your concern is valid. Barnes issues are mental. That can be corrected with coaching. Also Barksdale will be working to take his spot. I seriously doubt Wang makes the final 53.

  546. Method To My Madness Says:

    Murphy= please leave

  547. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Seems like the ship has sailed on Barksdale as well as a RT.

    I told YOU PEOPLE when we drafted him, Kwame Harris 2.0!!!!

    Sometimes these super-smart dudes just don’t have the gumption to kick azz on the field. They would rather play the game, stay healthy, than go read some 1890’s French literature.

    Kam Wimbley was the same way. Not boar-hunters.

  548. RaiderRockstar Says:

    the Top 3 QB’s in the AFC with the most passing yards were Brady, Rivers & Roethlisberger [in that order] and they all passed for more than 4,000 yards last season.

    the Top 3 QB’s in the AFC with the most passing TD’s were Brady, Rivers & Sanchez [in that order] and they all passed for more than 25 TD’s last season.

    Fitzpatrick had 24. Roethlisberger had 21

    so in order for Carson Palmer to be considered an “elite” QB in the AFC, he’s going to have to surpass 4,000 yards & 25 TD’s.

    He has surpassed that yardage mark twice and the TD mark four times.

    Can McFadden and the young wides stay healthy? Can somebody emerge at TE? is Barnes gonna get it done at RT?

    all the stars need to align in order for Palmer to join the AFC’s elite imo

  549. guest123 Says:

    Palmer does give us the chance to win the last minute contests, but he also has the tendency to try to force plays like Bret Favre did, and cost us some games playing the hero. It’s a double edge knife.

  550. guest123 Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 8:54 am
    Murphy= please leave

    ********

    and thank you.

  551. Method To My Madness Says:

    545.guest123 Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 8:53 am
    I’m just heavily concerned about our RT spot…Barnes is a loser and Wang is really an unknown for us

    *********

    your concern is valid. Barnes issues are mental. That can be corrected with coaching. Also Barksdale will be working to take his spot. I seriously doubt Wang makes the final 53.
    ***************************

    Coaching cant help Barnes at all…he flat out sucks. I wanted Barksdale to handle the spot but it aint happened yet….again Wang is unknown but McRibzie signed him for a reason…let’s hope he sticks and Barnes is cut

  552. Method To My Madness Says:

    547.Just Fire Baby Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 8:54 am
    Seems like the ship has sailed on Barksdale as well as a RT.

    I told YOU PEOPLE when we drafted him, Kwame Harris 2.0!!!!

    Sometimes these super-smart dudes just don’t have the gumption to kick azz on the field. They would rather play the game, stay healthy, than go read some 1890’s French literature.

    Kam Wimbley was the same way. Not boar-hunters.

    **********************

    I feel ya…certain guys dont have enough dog in their soul

  553. theghostronin79 Says:

    June 25th, 2012 at 8:48 am
    I’m also in the camp we don’t need or want CP3 to be a probowl QB. What we need is for DMAC to be the starting RB of the AFC probowl team. And CP3 to be top 10 statistically.

    ================================

    Yeah I know. Folks get too wrapped up in CP3 not being what he used to be. Of course he’s not, but so what. Are we Indy, NE, GB, or New Orleans? HELL NO…. We’re built on a punishing RUN first style. All we ever needed was a QB that could complete some passes and protect the football…..Support the run and that’s it.

  554. guest123 Says:

    Seems like the ship has sailed on Barksdale as well as a RT.

    I told YOU PEOPLE when we drafted him, Kwame Harris 2.0!!!!

    ********

    Why are you closing the books on him already? SMH

    I’m not yet ready to bury a mid round draft pick from a year ago. Not yet anywway.

  555. Method To My Madness Says:

    all the stars need to align in order for Palmer to join the AFC’s elite imo

    ***************

    No…just like inthe movies…Carson will need to sell his soul to devil for him to be elite

  556. Just Fire Baby Says:

    you will only get into playoffs because you will prolly get last wildcard

    *********************

    Right now we got the 1st WC spot, which = home game which = win.

    And we may be in first place come the end of this week!!!

    Defense is a concern though, esecially at SS. Outfield is solid though, and all have above-average arms.

  557. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Seems like the ship has sailed on Barksdale as well as a RT.

    I told YOU PEOPLE when we drafted him, Kwame Harris 2.0!!!!

    Sometimes these super-smart dudes just don’t have the gumption to kick azz on the field. They would rather play the game, stay healthy, than go read some 1890’s French literature.

    ***

    Yes, JFB called it early.

    I remember that as soon as we drafted him

  558. Method To My Madness Says:

    553.theghostronin79 Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 8:56 am
    June 25th, 2012 at 8:48 am
    I’m also in the camp we don’t need or want CP3 to be a probowl QB. What we need is for DMAC to be the starting RB of the AFC probowl team. And CP3 to be top 10 statistically.

    ================================

    Yeah I know. Folks get too wrapped up in CP3 not being what he used to be. Of course he’s not, but so what. Are we Indy, NE, GB, or New Orleans? HELL NO…. We’re built on a punishing RUN first style. All we ever needed was a QB that could complete some passes and protect the football…..Support the run and that’s it.

    ***************

    Well bruh my thing is people need to quit touting him as a pro bowl qb as if we are in 2005 and 2006…thats my issue becuz we wont see it ever again….he can throw the ball but his fastball use to be 97 mph now its about 91….still good but not spectacular

  559. guest123 Says:

    553. Yup

  560. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I’m not yet ready to bury a mid round draft pick from a year ago. Not yet anywway.

    *******************************

    But you are ready to bury a mid round draft pick from 3 years ago, who has made more clutch catches than any other player on our roster?

  561. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Why are you closing the books on him already? SMH

    I’m not yet ready to bury a mid round draft pick from a year ago. Not yet anywway.

    ***

    @G123

    I should ask you the same about Terrelle Pryor!

  562. Method To My Madness Says:

    556.Just Fire Baby Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 8:57 am
    you will only get into playoffs because you will prolly get last wildcard

    *********************

    Right now we got the 1st WC spot, which = home game which = win.

    And we may be in first place come the end of this week!!!

    Defense is a concern though, esecially at SS. Outfield is solid though, and all have above-average arms.

    ***************

    No the great DODGER franchise will win the NL West…you wont get fist wildcard…you will travel to NY and play the mets…Johan Santana will shut the lame Giants bats down and the SF Midgets will go back to loserville

  563. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Carson definitely needs to chill out on thinking he can convert every 3rd and 13.

    There is a time and place to take those chances, but not in the first half of a home game we have a lead in (like the Bears as an example).

  564. RaiderRockstar Says:

    @JFB

    have you ever thought that just maybe your boy Gradkowski made Murphy look good?

    he wasn’t the same before, or since

  565. Just Fire Baby Says:

    SMH at a hardcore NorCal guy heaping love on a LA team.

    Boo this man!!!!!

  566. guest123 Says:

    I should ask you the same about Terrelle Pryor!

    *********

    bury him?

    not yet…

  567. Method To My Madness Says:

    563.Just Fire Baby Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 9:01 am
    Carson definitely needs to chill out on thinking he can convert every 3rd and 13.

    There is a time and place to take those chances, but not in the first half of a home game we have a lead in (like the Bears as an example).

    *****************

    There ya go…and stop thinking he can needle pass it between 3-4 defenders….that schit needs to stop…the NFL dbs too good for that

  568. theghostronin79 Says:

    Yeah, I think folks are just excited cause Palmer is the best we’ve had in here since Gannaon. Can’t deny that. So we want to put him on a pedestal as our savior. But he never had to be. Consistency is all we need / not so much greatness.

  569. RaiderRockstar Says:

    hey fellas, it is what it is.

    Palmer is a gunslinger.

    he might have 30 TD’s and 20 INT’s this year !!

  570. Just Fire Baby Says:

    have you ever thought that just maybe your boy Gradkowski made Murphy look good?

    *****************************

    The Bruce rose the level of play for everyone.

    I just always liked that Lou played his best ball deep in the 4th quarter of games.

    No fumbles down the stretch like DHB, no wrong routes like Jacoby, no off the fingertip misses like Chaz.

    Just big-boy plays, at big-boy moments.

  571. Method To My Madness Says:

    565.Just Fire Baby Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 9:02 am
    SMH at a hardcore NorCal guy heaping love on a LA team.

    Boo this man!!!!!

    *****************

    East Bay guy hating on SF….get that right…and when have I ever dissed the Dodgers? You wont ever find that post…Dodgers=Jackie Robinson and then are the Giants master while we,the A’s, are your daddy

    I been to Dodger games at Chavez Revine…..way better and cooler than Candleschit or GayT&T park

  572. Just Fire Baby Says:

    and stop thinking he can needle pass it between 3-4 defenders….

    **********************

    Down the sidelines that can be OK (like the TD pass to Ford last year along the sideline they always show on the DirectTV commercials).

    But not in the middle of the field, like some of those tosses in the Denver game.

  573. Method To My Madness Says:

    The Bruce rose the level of play for everyone.

    ***********************

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA…has he ever won back to back games in his career? LOL

  574. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I hate the Dodgers more than the Lakers.

    If you told me right now Tommy Lasorda got a stray bullet in the leg and lived, I would probably laugh.

  575. Method To My Madness Says:

    572.Just Fire Baby Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 9:05 am
    and stop thinking he can needle pass it between 3-4 defenders….

    **********************

    Down the sidelines that can be OK (like the TD pass to Ford last year along the sideline they always show on the DirectTV commercials).

    But not in the middle of the field, like some of those tosses in the Denver game.

    ********************************

    That was a lucky pass…I remember it well….yeah i feel ya on the other passes…it was very embarrassing becuz we lost the division that day to Tim Teblow of all people

  576. Method To My Madness Says:

    574.Just Fire Baby Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 9:06 am
    I hate the Dodgers more than the Lakers.

    If you told me right now Tommy Lasorda got a stray bullet in the leg and lived, I would probably laugh.

    *************************
    Funny I feel the same way about Willie McCovey and former manager Roger Craig…toss in JT Snow and Barry BeefRoids Bonds

  577. Method To My Madness Says:

    Dodgers are cool….Midgets are not…damn SF

  578. guest123 Says:

    The SF Giant I hated growing up (and I really hated SF) was Jack Clark. I went to Candleschit to boo his azz from the 3rd base line.

  579. Raidernationdave Says:

    During the late 60’s the only EPL action (any soccer) on TV was on Public Broadcasting and WBA was doing fairly well back then. Jumped on the bandwagon and never got off I guess!

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    La Milicia Negra Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 3:29 am

    good for you, we have had several danes playing in WBA, but none at the moment. I hope you will end up having a lovely day in the Midlands..

    btw, howcome did you become a baggie-fan?

  580. guest123 Says:

    I used to love the Dodgers growing up too. But now I kinda have no love or hate for either the Dodgers or Giants. It’s all about Yankees and Red Sux hate.

  581. Method To My Madness Says:

    MLB playoffs for 2012

    AL Wildcard= Rays at Angels….Rays win

    NL Wildcard=Giants at Mets…..Mets win

    AL First Round= Texas vs Tampa
    Al First round= Yankees vs Detroit

    NL First Round= Dodgers vs Mets
    NL First Round= Nats vs Cardinals

    ALCS= Texas vs Yankees
    NLCS= Dodgers vs Cardinals

    World Series= Texas vs Dodgers

    Texas wins its first World Series with the guy who should have been our manager Ron Washington!…Thanks billy Beane for nothing

  582. Method To My Madness Says:

    580.guest123 Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 9:12 am
    I used to love the Dodgers growing up too. But now I kinda have no love or hate for either the Dodgers or Giants. It’s all about Yankees and Red Sux hate.

    ******************

    Giants and Yankees hate for me…..if SF played NYY in world series..I’m going for Yankees…yeah I said it!

  583. guest123 Says:

    post 581. Solid prediction.

    Texas always seems to have the Rays number. Rays have a boatload of injuries and will have to be on their game just to make the postseason. Dodgers could easily represent the NL. But it’s a long season to go.

  584. Raidernationdave Says:

    The Dodger bats won’t hold up without Kemp in the line-up MTMM.

  585. RaiderRockstar Says:

    so nobody even blinked about the article I posted where Branch and his agent are probably asking for $7-8 million per season [as I predicted before Reggie tagged him] … just a bunch of praise for the player and lofty expectations

    so i’m assuming YOU PEOPLE think he’s worth that much coin?

  586. R8ER MIKE Says:

    Method.. no love for my Nationals ??

  587. Just Fire Baby Says:

    How could you say that about Stretch? The dude doesn’t even have functinoing legs anymore!!!!

    But JT pissed me off as well. Having a slick-fielding first baseman is like having a great blocking WR.

    Who the F cares, that’s not what you get paid for!!!

  588. guest123 Says:

    I’m a Rays fan. Get it, Rays and Raiders? Anyway, Trop Field is only 10 minutes away and yet I hardly even go to games anymore.

  589. Method To My Madness Says:

    583.guest123 Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 9:17 am
    post 581. Solid prediction.

    Texas always seems to have the Rays number. Rays have a boatload of injuries and will have to be on their game just to make the postseason. Dodgers could easily represent the NL. But it’s a long season to go.

    *************************

    All I know is LA Live is making a bunch of money in 2012…between the NCAA tourney, NBA playoffs,NHL playoffs and MLB playoffs someone is eating fat like

    Time for Oakland to get it popping and stop the BS…move on the new wave of future dammit. We got the space and land for such a venture…City Hall ran by morons

  590. Just Fire Baby Says:

    The SF Giant I hated growing up (and I really hated SF) was Jack Clark.

    *************************

    The Ripper never saw a curve-ball in the dirt he didn’t think he could hit.

    He was the first of guys who struck out 150 times a year.

    I think he passed the batone to Rob Deer.

  591. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Damn shame nobody goes to Rays games.

    That is a bad azz, and fun to watch team, that is extremely well-coached in an old school hardball type of way.

  592. guest123 Says:

    so i’m assuming YOU PEOPLE think he’s worth that much coin?

    *****

    If PFF has Branch rated as their #1 available safety (prior to his franchise tag), that and other articles saying the same thing is good enough for me to pay the man. I’m sure Reggie is negotiating to bring the contract value down some. In the end, Reggie will get his deal. I don’t think it will be $7/$8M.

  593. Raidernationdave Says:

    Oh, and by the way…….

    Whut up Beyotches!

  594. Method To My Madness Says:

    586.R8ER MIKE Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 9:18 am
    Method.. no love for my Nationals ??

    **************

    How is Gio Gonzalez working out for ya? Wish we had him still

    Nats are cool..I like them as a young team but just think it may not be there time…but ya know if they play CARDS first round they may beat em becuz people have a bit of extra something for the defending champs in any sport

  595. Method To My Madness Says:

    584.Raidernationdave Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 9:17 am
    The Dodger bats won’t hold up without Kemp in the line-up MTMM.

    *************

    Dont need to becuz the Giants wont catch them…get in playoffs and hitting is more about timely hitting….even the 2010 Giants proved that….in baseball playoffs pitching and defense always wins out….and dodgers have that

  596. Raidernationdave Says:

    For what he does and the way he produces I’d say the Raiders could do a lot worse.

    +++++++++++++++++

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 9:17 am

    so nobody even blinked about the article I posted where Branch and his agent are probably asking for $7-8 million per season [as I predicted before Reggie tagged him] … just a bunch of praise for the player and lofty expectations

    so i’m assuming YOU PEOPLE think he’s worth that much coin?

  597. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I think the Indians win the AL Central, and the Braves pass the Mets for the 2nd WC.

    And the Nats and Giants battle it out for a World Series birth.

  598. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Danny Ferry = Hawks GM?

    wow

  599. Method To My Madness Says:

    591.Just Fire Baby Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 9:22 am
    Damn shame nobody goes to Rays games.

    That is a bad azz, and fun to watch team, that is extremely well-coached in an old school hardball type of way.

    **********

    Agreed very fun team to watch

  600. guest123 Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 9:22 am
    Damn shame nobody goes to Rays games.

    That is a bad azz, and fun to watch team, that is extremely well-coached in an old school hardball type of way.

    *******

    Agreed. Problem is Trop Field is on the Pinellas Side of the Bay and the real money is over in Tampa across the bridge. If they ever move the team to a real enclosed stadium (Trop Field is a dingy circus tent), they’d sellout the field a lot more.

    Also, it sucks, but the sellouts happen when the Yanks or Red Sux come to town. All the northerers come to the games and wear their hometown colors to spite the Rays fans. They bring the numbers. It’s embarrassing and I am embarrased for them making themselves look like spectacles. Bunch of morons those Yank and Redsucks fans!

  601. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Who will Heat target in free agency? Just about everyone.

    By Kurt Helin
    Jun 25, 2012, 10:25 AM EDT

    They likely will have five or six roster spots to fill for next season with guys like Ronny Turiaf, Dexter Pittman and others becoming free agents (I do not think Mike Miller is going to retire and leave $13 million on the table). Tweaking the roster starts with the draft on Thursday (No. 27 pick) and then their real work beings when free agency opens on Sunday.

    Who are the Heat expected to target in free agency? Just about everyone, especially centers and knockdown shooters.

    You know they will approach Ray Allen and Jason Terry. The Heat want a more traditional point guard so Steve Nash and Andre Miller will get a call. They need a big and Chris Kaman and Jermaine O’Neal are out there. They’ll probably even call Grant Hill.

    But it comes with a catch — Miami has the mini mid-level of $3 million for one of those guys and after that it’s veteran minimum deals.

    So, who wants to take a big pay cut to chase a ring? Shane Battier did that last year and after a lackluster season he stepped up big in the finals.

    Nash has talked about wanting a ring, would he go to Miami… where they already have a couple serious ball handlers in LeBron James and Dwyane Wade? Would Allen become Public Enemy No. 1 in Boston and jump to the Heat? Not sure I see either of those, and the buzz is Andre Miller wants to get paid. You can question everyone on that list.

    But know that Pat Riley is going to use his “come win a ring” sales pitch on everyone he thinks could help. And someone key is going to say yes.

  602. Method To My Madness Says:

    597.Just Fire Baby Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 9:26 am
    I think the Indians win the AL Central, and the Braves pass the Mets for the 2nd WC.

    And the Nats and Giants battle it out for a World Series birth.

    *************

    You are nuts…Giants wont make it out ofthe wildcard game…those btches are going down…not like they have any objection to it as well

  603. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Dodgers aren’t a very good fielding team either. I think Dee Gordon leads baseball in errors committed. Abreau, Hairston and Gwynn Jr are all below average defensively in the OF.

    These next 3 games will be a great indicator of what’s to come in the division.

  604. Raidernationdave Says:

    The dude is a tackling machine! I’m still trying to figure out if Huff has even hit anyone yet! Branch signed his tender for 6.2 mil

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    guest123 Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 9:23 am

    so i’m assuming YOU PEOPLE think he’s worth that much coin?

    *****

    If PFF has Branch rated as their #1 available safety (prior to his franchise tag), that and other articles saying the same thing is good enough for me to pay the man. I’m sure Reggie is negotiating to bring the contract value down some. In the end, Reggie will get his deal. I don’t think it will be $7/$8M.

  605. Method To My Madness Says:

    601.RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 9:28 am
    Who will Heat target in free agency? Just about everyone.

    By Kurt Helin
    Jun 25, 2012, 10:25 AM EDT

    They likely will have five or six roster spots to fill for next season with guys like Ronny Turiaf, Dexter Pittman and others becoming free agents (I do not think Mike Miller is going to retire and leave $13 million on the table). Tweaking the roster starts with the draft on Thursday (No. 27 pick) and then their real work beings when free agency opens on Sunday.

    Who are the Heat expected to target in free agency? Just about everyone, especially centers and knockdown shooters.

    You know they will approach Ray Allen and Jason Terry. The Heat want a more traditional point guard so Steve Nash and Andre Miller will get a call. They need a big and Chris Kaman and Jermaine O’Neal are out there. They’ll probably even call Grant Hill.

    But it comes with a catch — Miami has the mini mid-level of $3 million for one of those guys and after that it’s veteran minimum deals.

    So, who wants to take a big pay cut to chase a ring? Shane Battier did that last year and after a lackluster season he stepped up big in the finals.

    Nash has talked about wanting a ring, would he go to Miami… where they already have a couple serious ball handlers in LeBron James and Dwyane Wade? Would Allen become Public Enemy No. 1 in Boston and jump to the Heat? Not sure I see either of those, and the buzz is Andre Miller wants to get paid. You can question everyone on that list.

    But know that Pat Riley is going to use his “come win a ring” sales pitch on everyone he thinks could help. And someone key is going to say yes.

    ********************

    Nash is one i thought they were gonna get if they won it or not….geez they get him just dont know how you bneat em becuz he wont turn it over and he will make every open jimmy from the outside

  606. Method To My Madness Says:

    603.Just Fire Baby Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 9:30 am
    Dodgers aren’t a very good fielding team either. I think Dee Gordon leads baseball in errors committed. Abreau, Hairston and Gwynn Jr are all below average defensively in the OF.

    These next 3 games will be a great indicator of what’s to come in the division.

    *************************

    And Giants are horrible period fielding….Dodgers sweep the phag Giants right in AIDS park

  607. The Big Banana Says:

    7-8 mill for Branch? Nope. I’d give him 5-6.

  608. guest123 Says:

    The Big Banana Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 9:32 am
    7-8 mill for Branch? Nope. I’d give him 5-6.

    ********

    bingo!

  609. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Report: Deron Williams will only choose between Dallas and Brooklyn

    http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/06/24/report-deron-williams-will-only-choose-between-dallas-and-brooklyn/

    sorry Laker fans!!

  610. The Big Banana Says:

    .Dodgers sweep the phag Giants right in AIDS park

    ———————

    Like the Giants that much? Lol. Jeez, Method.

  611. Method To My Madness Says:

    610.The Big Banana Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 9:34 am
    .Dodgers sweep the phag Giants right in AIDS park

    ———————

    Like the Giants that much? Lol. Jeez, Method.

    ********************************

    SF is trash

  612. Method To My Madness Says:

    609.RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 9:33 am
    Report: Deron Williams will only choose between Dallas and Brooklyn

    http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/06/24/report-deron-williams-will-only-choose-between-dallas-and-brooklyn/

    sorry Laker fans!!

    ********************

    Homeboy is from Dallas too…but a chance to be a face of a franchise in Brooklyn may be too much to turn down…who knows

  613. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Warriors’ latest small forward star target: Luol Deng

    http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/06/23/warriors-latest-small-forward-star-target-luol-deng/

    Report: Bulls considering moving Joakim Noah or Luol Deng for pick and cap exception

    ***

    old news ??

  614. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Andre Miller would be a much better fit than Nash for the Heat.

    Nash is awful defensively, and I am not sure he can be resigned to a catch and shoot guy in the halfcourt.

    Miller is perfect for them, and would ensure at least 1 more title IMO.

  615. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Report: Ray Allen interested in joining Miami Heat

    http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/06/25/report-ray-allen-interested-in-joining-miami-heat/

    well, that didn’t take long.. LOL!

  616. Method To My Madness Says:

    613.RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 9:36 am
    Warriors’ latest small forward star target: Luol Deng

    http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/06/23/warriors-latest-small-forward-star-target-luol-deng/

    Report: Bulls considering moving Joakim Noah or Luol Deng for pick and cap exception

    ***

    old news ??

    ****************

    Naw i’ll tell you a better move for the Dubs

  617. Just Fire Baby Says:

    The SI Mock draft came out last week (I think they polled it a tad too early because they have the Dubs taking Sullinger at 7 lol).

    Also has the Kings taking Drummond, which would be awesome. They can have two of the craziest Mofo’s in the league in the middle.

    Other notes, PJ III is slated as going #15, with the write-up on him as a “top 5 talent with 2nd round pick production. Fab Melo going to the Celtics, Tyshawn Taylor going to us at #30, two spots behind Draymond Green, who would be a steal IMO at #28.

  618. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Can we trade Steph and the #7 for Jimmer and the #5?

    I’d do it, Jimmer is going to be an elite bench scorer in this league.

  619. Method To My Madness Says:

    614.Just Fire Baby Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 9:36 am
    Andre Miller would be a much better fit than Nash for the Heat.

    Nash is awful defensively, and I am not sure he can be resigned to a catch and shoot guy in the halfcourt.

    Miller is perfect for them, and would ensure at least 1 more title IMO.

    *******************

    no player is perfect but miami’s defense behind nash would be so stellar he wouldnt have to be lockdown…plus its balances out becuz he is a floor general with high bball IQ

    And miller is cool but what happens when teams make him have to hit a 17 foot elbow jumper? Playoff basketball does that to ya

  620. guest123 Says:

    I used to be a big Sac Kings fan. But the Maloofs have gutted that team and it’s inevitable they move one day soon. I stopped caring about them long ago. But I still somehow watch the NBA mock draft out of old habit.

  621. Raider O Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 9:17 am

    so nobody even blinked about the article I posted where Branch and his agent are probably asking for $7-8 million per season [as I predicted before Reggie tagged him] … just a bunch of praise for the player and lofty expectations

    so i’m assuming YOU PEOPLE think he’s worth that much coin?
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    I think he is a good safety but I wouldn’t pay him $7-8 million. I would pay him $6.

  622. RaiderRockstar Says:

    he is a floor general with high bball IQ

    ***

    Steve Nash can’t have sissy boy long hair, if he plays for Miami … shave your head & play for peanuts Steve-O !!

  623. Method To My Madness Says:

    Warriors need to let me be the general manager dammit

    Trade down to 17…Mavs can get 7th pick

    They will draft Andre Drummond and we have our shot at Harkless,Moultrie or Royce White…all the athletic forwards that the Dubs truly need

    Also in that throw in Dorrell Wright and a 2nd for Lamar Unhappy Odom…he will love the Bay Area with all the tree to burn and he aint far from LA

    This is best for Warriors…get a smart championship vet who is versatile as well as get you some young high flying athletic demon

  624. Method To My Madness Says:

    622.RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 9:46 am
    he is a floor general with high bball IQ

    ***

    Steve Nash can’t have sissy boy long hair, if he plays for Miami … shave your head & play for peanuts Steve-O !!

    ***********

    Maybe you havent seen Mike Miller’s Ace of Base haircut this past season

  625. Method To My Madness Says:

    http://www.businessweek.com/ap/2012-06-25/county-pulls-30-million-in-49ers-stadium-funding
    **************************

    How awesome

  626. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Why does everybody assume Branch will play for $5 or $6 million per season??

    Raiders haven’t won more than 8 games in a season. He’s on his 3rd HC, DC & DB Coach in 5 years.

    he’s an East Coast guy, so he’s not giving us a “hometown discount” just because Reggie says he can’t afford it, when he has the option to restructure the contracts of other players to make it work

  627. RaiderRockstar Says:

    @ROG

    Ace of Base haircut ??

    http://rantsports.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/courtcrusades/files/2012/06/mike-miller-denies-retirement-report.jpg

    LOL!

  628. Method To My Madness Says:

    627.RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 9:51 am
    @ROG

    Ace of Base haircut ??

    http://rantsports.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/courtcrusades/files/2012/06/mike-miller-denies-retirement-report.jpg

    LOL!
    ********************

    Guess he saw the sign and opened up his eyes and hit some 3 pt shots

  629. The Big Banana Says:

    I don’t assume he will play for that, RRS. That’s just what I’d offer. Take it or play out the tender.

  630. Just Fire Baby Says:

    How awesome

    *********************

    I got a kick out of that to

  631. Method To My Madness Says:

    630.Just Fire Baby Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 9:55 am
    How awesome

    *********************

    I got a kick out of that to

    ******************************

    Yeah thats funny…..let’s see what else they run into lol….gonna keep having issues just you watch….they may be at Candleschit in 2014 still

  632. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “I think he is a good safety but I wouldn’t pay him $7-8 million. I would pay him $6.”

    Cosigned!

  633. Just Fire Baby Says:

    RR,

    Look, The Reggie has spoken on the Branch situation, basically take the franchise for a year, or get paid what Rockstar is offering for you over in the semi-pro purchasing department.

    You win!

  634. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I don’t assume he will play for that, RRS. That’s just what I’d offer. Take it or play out the tender.

    ***

    fair enough, Banana!

  635. The Big Banana Says:

    Everyone seems to be in agreement on Branch’s contract. Big Mac – you paying attention?

  636. guest123 Says:

    The bad news for the 49ers is that their share of the $850M loan (the $400M part) is the subordinate share, meaning they wont get paid back until the principal lender (Banking syndicate, Goldman Sachs, etc) gets paid. How bizzare to front the city $30M for site development and then get punk’d like that? I smell a lawsuit.

  637. guest123 Says:

    Everyone is in agreement that Branch should be paid $6. Tough crowd. That’s not enough to purchase the #1 value meal with a small coke.

  638. hwnrdr Says:

    Too dam funny! SF getting punked already with their new home???

  639. Raider O Says:

    LOL B.
    Ace of Base!
    Still LOL

  640. RaiderRockstar Says:

    RR,

    Look, The Reggie has spoken on the Branch situation, basically take the franchise for a year, or get paid what Rockstar is offering for you over in the semi-pro purchasing department.

    You win!

    ***

    @JFB

    McKenzie was asked if there has been any progress on securing a long-term deal with the franchise-tagged strong safety Tyvon Branch: “It’s been good communication. Nobody’s slamming the phone on each other, so that’s positive.”

    Branch (tendered at $6.212 million; signed May 7).

    Gibril Wilson got 6-years $39 million ($16 million guaranteed) from Al Davis. Thats gonna be my highest offer to Tyvon Branch. Exact same thing. Thats pretty doggone generous imo

    Start with a lowball offer of 5-years $25 mil [$8 mil guaranteed] and go from there

  641. guest123 Says:

    Ranking the AFC West defensive backs

    June, 25, 2012 Jun 2511:00AM ETBy Bill Williamson | ESPN.com

    1. Champ Bailey, Denver: The future Hall of Famer continues to play at a high level.

    2. Eric Berry, Kansas City: I expect him to be a star after injuring his knee in Week 1 last year.

    3. Eric Weddle, San Diego: Weddle is becoming a premier playmaker.

    4. Brandon Flowers, Kansas City: One of the better cornerbacks in the NFL. An unheralded standout.

    5. Tyvon Branch, Oakland: He is a tackle machine. The Raiders will do what it takes to keep him for the long run.

    6. Stanford Routt, Kansas City: Now that he is a No. 2 cornerback again, expect his play to increase.

    7. Tracy Porter, Denver: The Broncos think they got a steal in free agency.

    8. Quentin Jammer, San Diego: The Chargers need a bounce-back season from Jammer.

    9. Michael Huff, Oakland: He makes a lot of plays and he gives up a lot of plays.

    10. Antoine Cason, San Diego: A solid No. 2 corner.

    11. Kendrick Lewis, Kansas City: Many scouts think he has a real future.

    12. Michael Adams, Denver: He should be a solid addition to a solid secondary.

    13. Ronald Bartell, Oakland: The Raiders have to hope his neck issues are a thing of the past.

    14. Atari Bigby, San Diego: The Chargers like what they see from this veteran so far.

    15. Drayton Florence, Denver: He brings solid experience to the nickel position.

    16. Shawntae Spencer, Oakland: Let’s see if he can fend off the youngsters for the starting gig.

    17. Quinton Carter, Denver: I think the safety has a real future.

    18. Javier Arenas, Kansas City: There’s a place in this terrific secondary for Arenas.

    19. Chris Harris, Denver: The undrafted free-agent find in 2011 is a fine player.

    20. Matt Giordano, Oakland: He’s limited, but he can make some plays in a pinch.

    21. Mike Mitchell, Oakland: I would like to see this former second-round pick make more of an impact.

    22. Brandon Taylor, San Diego: The Chargers may have something in this third-round pick.

    23. Rahim Moore, Denver: He has to regain his confidence after a shaky rookie year.

    24. Marcus Gilchrist, San Diego: He has potential, but he’s still learning.

    25. Darrell Stuckey, San Diego: He will have to compete for playing time.

    26. Chimdi Chekwa, Oakland: I think he could push Spencer for a starting spot.

    27. Jalil Brown, Kansas City: He has some potential.

    28. DeMarcus Van Dyke, Oakland: he has to show he is more than just fast.

    29. DeQuan Menzie, Kansas City: Late-round pick knows how to play the game.

    ***********

    Damn, our backfield looks like crap according to BSPN

  642. TxRaider210 Says:

    The Big Banana Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 9:32 am
    7-8 mill for Branch? Nope. I’d give him 5-6.

    ——————-
    I think that’s a fair price for Tyvon. I wouldn’t give him more than 25 mil over 4 years..just don’t think he is an elite SS yet.

  643. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Everyone is in agreement that Branch should be paid $6. Tough crowd. That’s not enough to purchase the #1 value meal with a small coke

    ***

    @G123

    6 bucks?

    I’ll go 600k, haha

  644. TxRaider210 Says:

    @641 I think Weddle, Routt and Jammer will all stink it up this year..not a big DVD fan either.

  645. RaiderRockstar Says:

    our backfield looks like crap according to BSPN

    ***

    @G123

    surprised?

    even blog gm JFB called it a collective turd sandwich!

  646. Raidernationdave Says:

    Right now the guy is on the verge of being considered one of the top 10 safeties in the game, he’s a Raider and he’s under contract. I’d drop 7-8 mil on Branch before I’d drop any scratch on Huff.

  647. guest123 Says:

    From Paul G:

    According to our corporate cousins at Pro Football Talk, the Raiders had $1.34 million in salary cap space on Friday. Only the Baltimore Ravens had less money with which to play, at a relatively measly $606,000.

    As PFT points out, “for now, the cap space is determined by the top 51 contracts on the roster.”

    The Raiders currently have 88 players on their roster, having waived defensive back LeQuan Lewis on Friday.

    *******

    $1.34 million?

    Plenty of money left to spend. You may get your boy Cedric after all…

  648. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Reggie has to give himself an “out” with Branch’s contract in case he plays like he did the first 3 years.

    Routt & Huff got PAID in a contract year too. one player gets the axe following offseason. the other is forced to restructure and take the vet minimum

    maybe eventually Branch will follow Chuck B to the UFL?

  649. TxRaider210 Says:

    Raidernationdave Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 10:25 am
    Right now the guy is on the verge of being considered one of the top 10 safeties in the game, he’s a Raider and he’s under contract. I’d drop 7-8 mil on Branch before I’d drop any scratch on Huff.

    ——————
    I’d go a million less, but yeah Branch before Huff all day long.

  650. guest123 Says:

    surprised?

    even blog gm JFB called it a collective turd sandwich!

    ******

    @ Rockstar,

    No not really surprised. What’s the coach speak for turd sandwich? “It is what it is” ….and “at the end of the day”

  651. Raider O Says:

    Raidernationdave Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 10:25 am
    Right now the guy is on the verge of being considered one of the top 10 safeties in the game, he’s a Raider and he’s under contract. I’d drop 7-8 mil on Branch before I’d drop any scratch on Huff.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    I agree 100%.

  652. RaiderRockstar Says:

    $1.34 million?

    Plenty of money left to spend. You may get your boy Cedric after all

    ***

    @G123

    sign Benson & dump Murphy!

    then we’re both happy :P

  653. The Big Banana Says:

    Lol. County didn’t like that Niners wanted to install TVs on backs of seats so they seized the money. Too funny. May end up costing them (err…taxpayers) in the longrun if SF files suit and wins.

  654. RaiderRockstar Says:

    What’s the coach speak for turd sandwich? “It is what it is” ….and “at the end of the day”

    ***

    I think so, GMoney

    if rookies Criner & Streater are making starting vet CB’s Bartell & Spencer look like clowns in training camp like they did in OTA’s, I think it’s fair to be concerned

  655. Method To My Madness Says:

    646.Raidernationdave Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 10:25 am
    Right now the guy is on the verge of being considered one of the top 10 safeties in the game, he’s a Raider and he’s under contract. I’d drop 7-8 mil on Branch before I’d drop any scratch on Huff.

    *******

    doesnt seem like a playmaker but i like the dude playing tho…7-8 millies is alot

  656. guest123 Says:

    I don’t see how the Niners don’t win that lawsuit. At the very least, the city of Santa Clara is going to have to pay pack the $30M with interest, and costs for delays of that site development. The original loan of $850 million is probably going to be over $1 billion because of the delay to schedule and the ripple effect down the line.

  657. Method To My Madness Says:

    638.hwnrdr Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 10:10 am
    Too dam funny! SF getting punked already with their new home???

    *********************

    Shoulda saw vision like Giants did in China Basin and built stadium there…woulda made more money there plus been in area where rich folks are living…how stupid?

    A Super Bowl in Santa Clara or one in SF? Its a damn shame..and i hate SF but im disgusted with the move

  658. guest123 Says:

    I won’t be unhappy if we go after a vet TE like Shiancoe or somebody with a pulse. Our TE corps is really not a threat and if we can’t get some proven production or the threat of production, it makes the job so much easier for the opposing DC’s to stop us.

    Just say no to Benson and TO,

    But, say yes to Schainco.

  659. Method To My Madness Says:

    656.guest123 Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 10:34 am
    I don’t see how the Niners don’t win that lawsuit. At the very least, the city of Santa Clara is going to have to pay pack the $30M with interest, and costs for delays of that site development. The original loan of $850 million is probably going to be over $1 billion because of the delay to schedule and the ripple effect down the line.

    ***************

    Its a damn joke man….never shoulda left SF for SC back in the 80s…players have no connection witht he city now….sad

  660. guest123 Says:

    A Super Bowl in Santa Clara or one in SF? Its a damn shame..and i hate SF but im disgusted with the move

    *********

    Money is already drying up. Watch this deal fall through. Niners aren’t going anywhere.

  661. Method To My Madness Says:

    658.guest123 Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 10:39 am
    I won’t be unhappy if we go after a vet TE like Shiancoe or somebody with a pulse. Our TE corps is really not a threat and if we can’t get some proven production or the threat of production, it makes the job so much easier for the opposing DC’s to stop us.

    Just say no to Benson and TO,

    But, say yes to Schainco.
    ***************

    Hmmmmmmmm maybe…not like we have a qb who really looks to TE

  662. Method To My Madness Says:

    660.guest123 Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 10:40 am
    A Super Bowl in Santa Clara or one in SF? Its a damn shame..and i hate SF but im disgusted with the move

    *********

    Money is already drying up. Watch this deal fall through. Niners aren’t going anywhere.

    ***********

    But they already broke ground

  663. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    654.RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 10:31 am
    What’s the coach speak for turd sandwich? “It is what it is” ….and “at the end of the day”

    ***

    I think so, GMoney

    if rookies Criner & Streater are making starting vet CB’s Bartell & Spencer look like clowns in training camp like they did in OTA’s, I think it’s fair to be concerned

    —————————————
    I was thinking the same thing RR, but we will really know when the pads go on and they start poping and cracking each other!!!

    It is easy to look good as a WR when your muscles don’t feel a little jelly like after being knocked around.

    Our DBs are a little suspect still. It will be interesting to see what they look like not going man to man almost every down.

    Your boy Huff seems pumped up for this year.

  664. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    I bet if Al was alive he would have struck a deal with Jerry Jones and got Mike Jenkins in Oaktown. CB position much bigger concer than TE position.

  665. Method To My Madness Says:

    664.Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 10:43 am
    I bet if Al was alive he would have struck a deal with Jerry Jones and got Mike Jenkins in Oaktown. CB position much bigger concer than TE position.

    *************

    Someone hire HairyBush please!…I’m with this move

  666. Silverandblack666 Says:

    666

  667. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    BTW I’m hungry, Anyone want to fix me a turd sandwich?

  668. guest123 Says:

    But they already broke ground

    **********

    That doesn’t mean anything if they don’t have the site development plan all lined up and ready to execute. These big projects are all about sequence. One event follows another, literally depends on it. $30 mill is small money and they can probably work around the details, but at some point there will be a jackknife of the schedule and the contractors will be screaming mad when they don’t get paid.

  669. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Matt Miller @ bleacher report breaks down Top 32 SS’s [least to greatest] on 03/23/12 :

    Antrel Rolle
    Dawan Landry
    James Ihedigbo
    Jordan Babineaux
    Mistral Raymond
    Chris Crocker
    Sean Jones
    Laron Landry
    Major Wright
    Charles Godfrey
    Chris Harris
    T.J. Ward
    Charlie Peprah
    Louis Delmas
    Yeremiah Bell
    Deon Grant
    Steve Gregory
    Bernard Pollard
    Kurt Coleman
    William Moore
    Antoine Bethea
    Brian Dawkins
    Roman Harper
    Craig Steltz
    Quintin Mikell
    Gerald Sensabaugh
    Donte Whitner
    Kam Chancellor
    Tyvon Branch
    Adrian Wilson
    George Wilson
    Troy Polamalu

  670. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    Hmmmmmmmm maybe…not like we have a qb who really looks to TE
    ————————————-
    Exactly. Get a guy who can block at tight end (Meyers may be that guy)and let our Wr’s and backs take care of the recieving.

  671. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 10:46 am
    Matt Miller @ bleacher report breaks down Top 32 SS’s [least to greatest] on 03/23/12 :

    Antrel Rolle
    Dawan Landry
    James Ihedigbo
    Jordan Babineaux
    Mistral Raymond
    Chris Crocker
    Sean Jones
    Laron Landry
    Major Wright
    Charles Godfrey
    Chris Harris
    T.J. Ward
    Charlie Peprah
    Louis Delmas
    Yeremiah Bell
    Deon Grant
    Steve Gregory
    Bernard Pollard
    Kurt Coleman
    William Moore
    Antoine Bethea
    Brian Dawkins
    Roman Harper
    Craig Steltz
    Quintin Mikell
    Gerald Sensabaugh
    Donte Whitner
    Kam Chancellor
    Tyvon Branch
    Adrian Wilson
    George Wilson
    Troy Polamalu
    ———-
    Surprised Rolle was the worst

  672. Method To My Madness Says:

    Your boy Huff seems pumped up for this year.

    ***********

    Huff blows

  673. Method To My Madness Says:

    668.guest123 Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 10:46 am
    But they already broke ground

    **********

    That doesn’t mean anything if they don’t have the site development plan all lined up and ready to execute. These big projects are all about sequence. One event follows another, literally depends on it. $30 mill is small money and they can probably work around the details, but at some point there will be a jackknife of the schedule and the contractors will be screaming mad when they don’t get paid.

    &****************

    Santa Clara County should never have any pro sports teams…at least the major 3 in the USA

  674. guest123 Says:

    What bothers me most about the DB rankings isn’t that the Raiders are all mostly in the bottom half of the rankings. It’s being in the bottom half of the AFC WEST rankings. I don’t want to imagine where’d they rank in the NFL rankings.

  675. guest123 Says:

    Santa Clara County should never have any pro sports teams…at least the major 3 in the USA

    *********

    Agreed, and I used to live in Santa Clara when I took a break from college in the 80’s. I know that place well. Not a pro sports city.

  676. Method To My Madness Says:

    670.Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 10:47 am
    Hmmmmmmmm maybe…not like we have a qb who really looks to TE
    ————————————-
    Exactly. Get a guy who can block at tight end (Meyers may be that guy)and let our Wr’s and backs take care of the recieving.

    ******************

    I say start Myers…he can catch decent enough…dont want a 50-60 catch TE

  677. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Matt Miller @ bleacher report breaks down Top 32 SS’s [least to greatest] on 03/23/12 :

    Tyvon Branch = 4th best SS in the league, but some of these comments concern me …

    “needs to improve his tackling in the open field”

    “Allows a fair amount of completions”

    “Will make a big play one game, but may disappear for a few after that.

    “Not great at anticipating and getting there ahead of the ball”

    “plenty of room to grow”

    Overall rating 79.5 (C+)

    Also states “Much better in a zone than man on man” when PFF calls Branch “best man-coverage safety in the league”

    thoughts ???

  678. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Magic get: Kevin Martin, Samuel Dalembert, 2012 #5 Pick, 2012 #8 Pick.

    Rockets get: Dwight Howard, Hedo Turkoglu

    Yes please.

  679. MistaBrown Says:

    When KK and MR are absent the troll activity and hostile BS is nonexistent.

    The end

  680. guest123 Says:

    We keep talking about being multiple. Multiple on defense, multiple on offense.

    To be multiple on offense, we need every skill position on the field to be a threat to take it to the house on any play. But problem is we have a gaping hole at TE position. We need to fix that either internally or going out to free agents. We need to make it our focus to cause opposing defensive coordinators to have Saturday evening panic attacks and Sunday morning migraines.

    Guys, we need a legit TE on the field in the worst way. I don’t have much confidence in the TE crew as assembled.

  681. RaiderRockstar Says:

    so Branch doesn’t even get a B rating and we’re thinking about throwing $7-8 million annually at the guy?

    by the way,

    I usually think bleacher report is crap, but that analysis was spot on!

  682. guest123 Says:

    thoughts ???

    *********

    Thoughts are Bleacher report is a spam link I don’t trust and are full of hackjob writers with less credibility than Skip Baseless, while PFF is a legit source for all things football.

  683. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Magic get: Kevin Martin, Samuel Dalembert, 2012 #5 Pick, 2012 #8 Pick.

    Rockets get: Dwight Howard, Hedo Turkoglu

    ***

    @DAV

    this will never happen

  684. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    I refuse to worry about Branch on June 25th.

    If you dont like him, so be it.

    They didnt like DMC either.

    I trust Reggie McKenzie’s eye for talent WAY more than an opinion from this blog lol..

  685. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:00 am
    Magic get: Kevin Martin, Samuel Dalembert, 2012 #5 Pick, 2012 #8 Pick.

    Rockets get: Dwight Howard, Hedo Turkoglu

    ***

    @DAV

    this will never happen

    —-

    Until it does.

    Rockets are pushing to make it happen as you read in disbelief.

  686. theghostronin79 Says:

    Just wait for camp. Ausburry never got a chance to shine. He was #3 last year. Hell, give them a preseason. Trust me, TE will not SUCK next year. Ausburry will be our guy I think.

  687. guest123 Says:

    I usually think bleacher report is crap, but that analysis was spot on!

    ********

    Thanks for the qualifying remark. When a source is crap, it’s crap all the time.

  688. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Bleacher report is a spam link I don’t trust and are full of hackjob writers with less credibility than Skip Baseless

    ***

    @G123

    I thought ranking him the 4th best SS was pretty generous, looking at that list!

    I would say Top 10 strong safety, but definately not Top 10 overall safety!!

  689. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    theghostronin79 Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:01 am
    Just wait for camp. Ausburry never got a chance to shine. He was #3 last year. Hell, give them a preseason. Trust me, TE will not SUCK next year. Ausburry will be our guy I think.

    —-

    Agreed.

    The weakness at TE & CB is a little overblown. IMO

  690. Method To My Madness Says:

    675.guest123 Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 10:52 am
    Santa Clara County should never have any pro sports teams…at least the major 3 in the USA

    *********

    Agreed, and I used to live in Santa Clara when I took a break from college in the 80’s. I know that place well. Not a pro sports city.

    ****************************

    No offense to SJ area but come on…not a sports town at all…they got the Sharks or whatever cool………..but thats where it needs to stop

  691. guest123 Says:

    Just wait for camp. Ausburry never got a chance to shine. He was #3 last year. Hell, give them a preseason. Trust me, TE will not SUCK next year. Ausburry will be our guy I think.

    **********

    I want to be optimistic too. I want to sip the koolaid. But Ausberry and Gordon and Myers produced a whopping 19 catches last year. That isn’t going to get it done. Not asking for a Jimmy Graham 100 catch TE either. Just someone that legitimizes the position and has to be gameplanned for.

  692. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I refuse to worry about Branch on June 25th.

    ***

    @DAV

    how about Sept thru Dec?

    will you worry about him then?

  693. Method To My Madness Says:

    679.MistaBrown Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 10:57 am
    When KK and MR are absent the troll activity and hostile BS is nonexistent.

    The end

    *************

    Management

  694. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:04 am
    I refuse to worry about Branch on June 25th.

    ***

    @DAV

    how about Sept thru Dec?

    will you worry about him then?

    —-

    Havent yet.

  695. RaiderRockstar Says:

    @DAV

    do you think your Magic can get it done without Dwight Howard & Hedo Turkoglu ??

    Playoffs!?!

  696. Method To My Madness Says:

    689.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:03 am
    theghostronin79 Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:01 am
    Just wait for camp. Ausburry never got a chance to shine. He was #3 last year. Hell, give them a preseason. Trust me, TE will not SUCK next year. Ausburry will be our guy I think.

    —-

    Agreed.

    The weakness at TE & CB is a little overblown. IMO

    **************

    This i agree with except…shawntgay spencer can go to hell…he sucks

  697. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:06 am
    @DAV

    do you think your Magic can get it done without Dwight Howard & Hedo Turkoglu ??

    Playoffs!?!

    —-

    Dont care about the next 2 years.

    2 top 10 picks this year + 19 this year..

    Most likely Lottery next year…

    BOOM! We’re back in 3 years, when convieniently the Heat are losing steam.

  698. theghostronin79 Says:

    Just wait for camp. Ausburry never got a chance to shine. He was #3 last year. Hell, give them a preseason. Trust me, TE will not SUCK next year. Ausburry will be our guy I think.

    **********

    I want to be optimistic too. I want to sip the koolaid. But Ausberry and Gordon and Myers produced a whopping 19 catches last year. That isn’t going to get it done. Not asking for a Jimmy Graham 100 catch TE either. Just someone that legitimizes the position and has to be gameplanned for.

    ============================

    I hear what you’re sayin. But it’s not like they were targeted much and clanked everything that came their way. They were “Under” utilized. That’s it. I think Ausburry will do just fine. He saw the field with USC as a reciever and you gotta have SOME skills for that. You know the Trojans are like 25 deep at every position. We all miss Zach but, I’m honestly not worried about TE….

  699. RaiderRockstar Says:

    When a source is crap, it’s crap all the time

    ***

    @G123

    how would that explain all the Steve Corkran bashers in here, who complain about him daily, but hang on to every tweet and participate in every live chat?

  700. Method To My Madness Says:

    I dont miss Zach Miller at all

  701. raidertbone Says:

    I’ll start mixin’ up the koolaid once training camp starts – won’t start sipping’ on it though until Week 2 of the regular season!

  702. RaiderRockstar Says:

    BOOM! We’re back in 3 years, when convieniently the Heat are losing steam

    ***

    @DAV

    is that how we should approach the Raiders?

    other Magic fans would slap you around for those comments!

  703. guest123 Says:

    I’m not trying to make this into a discussion about Cedric Benson, but the money they are considering giving him, they should be committing to a legit FA TE who can at least bring something to a position of need. We’re already locked and loaded at RB. We don’t need anymore. But we got 3 TE’s that all have holes in their game. If you could take the best of all 3 and fabricate one TE, you’d have something there. But it’s not Frankenstein’s lab here, we need one legit TE talent to secure the position, or at least push and raise the level of competition in camp.

  704. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:12 am
    BOOM! We’re back in 3 years, when convieniently the Heat are losing steam

    ***

    @DAV

    is that how we should approach the Raiders?

    other Magic fans would slap you around for those comments!

    —-

    Not realistic Magic fans, or the ones I know.

    If thats not how you approach the Raiders now, theres no point in talking to be honest..

    To quote Reggie, Rome wasnt built in a year.

  705. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    guest123 Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:14 am
    I’m not trying to make this into a discussion about Cedric Benson, but the money they are considering giving him, they should be committing to a legit FA TE who can at least bring something to a position of need. We’re already locked and loaded at RB. We don’t need anymore. But we got 3 TE’s that all have holes in their game. If you could take the best of all 3 and fabricate one TE, you’d have something there. But it’s not Frankenstein’s lab here, we need one legit TE talent to secure the position, or at least push and raise the level of competition in camp.

    —-

    THERE IS NO LEGIT FA TE!!!!!

    You got to be kidding me.

  706. Method To My Madness Says:

    704.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:15 am
    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:12 am
    BOOM! We’re back in 3 years, when convieniently the Heat are losing steam

    ***

    @DAV

    is that how we should approach the Raiders?

    other Magic fans would slap you around for those comments!

    —-

    Not realistic Magic fans, or the ones I know.

    If thats not how you approach the Raiders now, theres no point in talking to be honest..

    To quote Reggie, Rome wasnt built in a year.

    ********************

    Rome went down fast too

  707. guest123 Says:

    how would that explain all the Steve Corkran bashers in here, who complain about him daily, but hang on to every tweet and participate in every live chat?

    ********

    Well, I don’t personally bash Cork. I think he does a stellar job most of the time. But I think his personal gut feel on some of his takes in the chats are off-base sometimes. He trusts his instincts and I respect that, but sometimes is out of touch with what the Raiders braintrust is really up to. Hey, nobody’s perfect. He does his best. About all I can ask for.

  708. Method To My Madness Says:

    705.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:16 am
    guest123 Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:14 am
    I’m not trying to make this into a discussion about Cedric Benson, but the money they are considering giving him, they should be committing to a legit FA TE who can at least bring something to a position of need. We’re already locked and loaded at RB. We don’t need anymore. But we got 3 TE’s that all have holes in their game. If you could take the best of all 3 and fabricate one TE, you’d have something there. But it’s not Frankenstein’s lab here, we need one legit TE talent to secure the position, or at least push and raise the level of competition in camp.

    —-

    THERE IS NO LEGIT FA TE!!!!!

    You got to be kidding me.

    **************

    Agreed…and Benson isnt a legit RB

  709. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:10 am
    When a source is crap, it’s crap all the time

    ***

    @G123

    how would that explain all the Steve Corkran bashers in here, who complain about him daily, but hang on to every tweet and participate in every live chat?

    —-

    Difference would be Cork is a credited reporter.. right?

  710. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    dont want a 50-60 catch TE
    ——————
    don’t want and don’t need.

    Yes, the Raiders are going to try and be “multiple” on both offense and defense. The only thing is, Palmer has not really given the TE position much love through out his career. I don’t see him changing regardless of what is in Knapp’s new scheme.

  711. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:17 am
    704.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:15 am
    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:12 am
    BOOM! We’re back in 3 years, when convieniently the Heat are losing steam

    ***

    @DAV

    is that how we should approach the Raiders?

    other Magic fans would slap you around for those comments!

    —-

    Not realistic Magic fans, or the ones I know.

    If thats not how you approach the Raiders now, theres no point in talking to be honest..

    To quote Reggie, Rome wasnt built in a year.

    ********************

    Rome went down fast too

    —-

    They had a nice run though right?..

  712. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:18 am
    705.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:16 am
    guest123 Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:14 am
    I’m not trying to make this into a discussion about Cedric Benson, but the money they are considering giving him, they should be committing to a legit FA TE who can at least bring something to a position of need. We’re already locked and loaded at RB. We don’t need anymore. But we got 3 TE’s that all have holes in their game. If you could take the best of all 3 and fabricate one TE, you’d have something there. But it’s not Frankenstein’s lab here, we need one legit TE talent to secure the position, or at least push and raise the level of competition in camp.

    —-

    THERE IS NO LEGIT FA TE!!!!!

    You got to be kidding me.

    **************

    Agreed…and Benson isnt a legit RB

    —-

    He’s more legit than any other RB or TE available. Whatever that means.

  713. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:18 am
    dont want a 50-60 catch TE
    ——————
    don’t want and don’t need.

    Yes, the Raiders are going to try and be “multiple” on both offense and defense. The only thing is, Palmer has not really given the TE position much love through out his career. I don’t see him changing regardless of what is in Knapp’s new scheme.

    —-

    If Knapp calls it, and the plays are designed to get the ball to the TE, guess what.

    The TE is getting the ball bub.

  714. Method To My Madness Says:

    711.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:19 am
    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:17 am
    704.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:15 am
    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:12 am
    BOOM! We’re back in 3 years, when convieniently the Heat are losing steam

    ***

    @DAV

    is that how we should approach the Raiders?

    other Magic fans would slap you around for those comments!

    —-

    Not realistic Magic fans, or the ones I know.

    If thats not how you approach the Raiders now, theres no point in talking to be honest..

    To quote Reggie, Rome wasnt built in a year.

    ********************

    Rome went down fast too

    —-

    They had a nice run though right?..

    ****************

    Bestiality and homosexuality ran rampant…no they didnt

  715. RaiderRockstar Says:

    @G123

    We have 5 TE’s on the roster: Myers, Gordon, Ausberry, Efaw & Humphrey

    We have 5 RB’s not named McFadden: Jones, Goodson, Miller, Jackson & Reece

    obviously McKenzie, Allen & Knapp want to see what happens in training camp. Hoping somebody steps up and seizes the role. Wouldn’t mind some cheap homegrown production from an unfamiliar face. I don’t see this as an issue. If there isn’t enough talent, smarts or desire – you can bet changes will be made. Right now we’re taking the wait & see approach. There are 2 or 3 crusty old vets at TE who could step in and play tomorrow. Same thing at RB. No rush to sign these guys. Teams aren’t exactly beating down thier doors

  716. theghostronin79 Says:

    dont want a 50-60 catch TE
    ——————
    don’t want and don’t need.

    Yes, the Raiders are going to try and be “multiple” on both offense and defense. The only thing is, Palmer has not really given the TE position much love through out his career. I don’t see him changing regardless of what is in Knapp’s new scheme.

    ===============================

    Agree there. That’s why I’m not worried. I think Ausburry will be a plesant surprise. Remember his corner of the endzone TD catch last preseason? I think he was only targeted twice last season, with 2 catches. Just give the guy a chance.

  717. Method To My Madness Says:

    713.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:20 am
    Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:18 am
    dont want a 50-60 catch TE
    ——————
    don’t want and don’t need.

    Yes, the Raiders are going to try and be “multiple” on both offense and defense. The only thing is, Palmer has not really given the TE position much love through out his career. I don’t see him changing regardless of what is in Knapp’s new scheme.

    —-

    If Knapp calls it, and the plays are designed to get the ball to the TE, guess what.

    The TE is getting the ball bub.

    ******************

    Please be serious…you know better…Palmer not good at passing to TE

  718. Method To My Madness Says:

    715.RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:21 am
    @G123

    We have 5 TE’s on the roster: Myers, Gordon, Ausberry, Efaw & Humphrey

    We have 5 RB’s not named McFadden: Jones, Goodson, Miller, Jackson & Reece

    obviously McKenzie, Allen & Knapp want to see what happens in training camp. Hoping somebody steps up and seizes the role. Wouldn’t mind some cheap homegrown production from an unfamiliar face. I don’t see this as an issue. If there isn’t enough talent, smarts or desire – you can bet changes will be made. Right now we’re taking the wait & see approach. There are 2 or 3 crusty old vets at TE who could step in and play tomorrow. Same thing at RB. No rush to sign these guys. Teams aren’t exactly beating down thier doors

    ***********

    B auce!

  719. guest123 Says:

    @RRS,

    I hear you man. It’s still almost a month away and I look at this team with much anticipation and hope. It’s tough not to look at the holes even its only perception. I guess we can always sign a crusty old vet like Schianco or Scaife. But it’s not like they are going to be available for long either. Someone’s going to get them.

  720. theghostronin79 Says:

    I think Ausburry will lock down our TE spot by years end, just like I forsee Juron Criner cememting himself as our #1 reciever by years end as well.

  721. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:20 am
    Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:18 am
    dont want a 50-60 catch TE
    ——————
    don’t want and don’t need.

    Yes, the Raiders are going to try and be “multiple” on both offense and defense. The only thing is, Palmer has not really given the TE position much love through out his career. I don’t see him changing regardless of what is in Knapp’s new scheme.

    —-

    If Knapp calls it, and the plays are designed to get the ball to the TE, guess what.

    The TE is getting the ball bub.
    —————
    I think Palmer has warranted enough respect from the coaching staff that if he said I really want to see certain guys be the focal point, the OC and head coach would oblige him. You disagree?

    I can’t envision any tight end on our current roster (or one added for that matter) catching more than 30 balls tops. DMoore, DHB, & DMAC will combine for about 200 receptions.

  722. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:23 am
    713.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:20 am
    Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:18 am
    dont want a 50-60 catch TE
    ——————
    don’t want and don’t need.

    Yes, the Raiders are going to try and be “multiple” on both offense and defense. The only thing is, Palmer has not really given the TE position much love through out his career. I don’t see him changing regardless of what is in Knapp’s new scheme.

    —-

    If Knapp calls it, and the plays are designed to get the ball to the TE, guess what.

    The TE is getting the ball bub.

    ******************

    Please be serious…you know better…Palmer not good at passing to TE

    —-

    When has he ever had 1?..

  723. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:21 am
    711.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:19 am
    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:17 am
    704.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:15 am
    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:12 am
    BOOM! We’re back in 3 years, when convieniently the Heat are losing steam

    ***

    @DAV

    is that how we should approach the Raiders?

    other Magic fans would slap you around for those comments!

    —-

    Not realistic Magic fans, or the ones I know.

    If thats not how you approach the Raiders now, theres no point in talking to be honest..

    To quote Reggie, Rome wasnt built in a year.

    ********************

    Rome went down fast too

    —-

    They had a nice run though right?..

    ****************

    Bestiality and homosexuality ran rampant…no they didnt

    —-

    Well the Niners had a good year despite those issues.

  724. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    Well the Niners had a good year despite those issues.
    ———————-
    lol

  725. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I guess we can always sign a crusty old vet like Schianco or Scaife. But it’s not like they are going to be available for long either. Someone’s going to get them.

    ***

    @G123

    I think Shaincoe, Shockey & Scaife will be around until a #1 or #2 TE [that is heavily relied upon] gets a season-ending injury in camp or preseason

    All 3 could be signed a week into training camp or all 3 could still be waiting for a phone call at midseason. you just never know

  726. guest123 Says:

    I don’t see Ausberry getting any more opportunities than last year honestly. All I’ve heard about the TE position is Palmer talking up Myers as the starter. Now that says to me that Myers is still way ahead of Ausberry (maybe on par with Gordon) as far as blocking. The ability to block is what’s going to command starters reps at the TE position regardless in the WCO. If you can’t block, it don’t matter if you have velvety soft hands. You don’t play. I don’t see that Ausberry breakout year, not until or unless I hear some reports out of camp that say otherwise.

  727. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Honestly, i’d rather give Ausberry & Gordon a shot before signing Shaincoe, Shockey or Scaife.

    Were not a TE away from a Super Bowl run. No need to stunt a young players growth.

  728. Method To My Madness Says:

    722.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:27 am
    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:23 am
    713.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:20 am
    Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:18 am
    dont want a 50-60 catch TE
    ——————
    don’t want and don’t need.

    Yes, the Raiders are going to try and be “multiple” on both offense and defense. The only thing is, Palmer has not really given the TE position much love through out his career. I don’t see him changing regardless of what is in Knapp’s new scheme.

    —-

    If Knapp calls it, and the plays are designed to get the ball to the TE, guess what.

    The TE is getting the ball bub.

    ******************

    Please be serious…you know better…Palmer not good at passing to TE

    —-

    When has he ever had 1?..

    *****************************

    Hell you dont need a good TE..you still have to show ability to pass to one and he just doesnt trust himself doing it…never has…cant excuse these USC qbs for sucking…no wonder none has ever won a SB title

  729. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Palmer not good at passing to TE

    When has he ever had 1?..

    ***

    DAV & ROG

    2010 Carson Palmer had a rookie TE in Cincy named Jermaine Gresham and he got plenty of looks

    can’t blame Palmer for avoiding guys like Reggie Kelly & Tony Stewart at TE. They sucked. we know first hand with T-Stew from his Oakland days!!

  730. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    guest123 Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:31 am
    I don’t see Ausberry getting any more opportunities than last year honestly. All I’ve heard about the TE position is Palmer talking up Myers as the starter. Now that says to me that Myers is still way ahead of Ausberry (maybe on par with Gordon) as far as blocking. The ability to block is what’s going to command starters reps at the TE position regardless in the WCO. If you can’t block, it don’t matter if you have velvety soft hands. You don’t play. I don’t see that Ausberry breakout year, not until or unless I hear some reports out of camp that say otherwise.

    —-

    You must have missed the CP3 interviews about how Ausberry is beasting, and them working out together..

  731. guest123 Says:

    I think Shaincoe, Shockey & Scaife will be around until a #1 or #2 TE [that is heavily relied upon] gets a season-ending injury in camp or preseason

    All 3 could be signed a week into training camp or all 3 could still be waiting for a phone call at midseason. you just never know

    ********

    I agree with you about the uncertainty. So why wait? Why not scoop them one of them up now (Reggie’s choice) with the remaining $1.3M and call it a day? & Let other teams twist in the wind when their TE1’s go down to torn ACL’s.

  732. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:33 am
    722.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:27 am
    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:23 am
    713.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:20 am
    Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:18 am
    dont want a 50-60 catch TE
    ——————
    don’t want and don’t need.

    Yes, the Raiders are going to try and be “multiple” on both offense and defense. The only thing is, Palmer has not really given the TE position much love through out his career. I don’t see him changing regardless of what is in Knapp’s new scheme.

    —-

    If Knapp calls it, and the plays are designed to get the ball to the TE, guess what.

    The TE is getting the ball bub.

    ******************

    Please be serious…you know better…Palmer not good at passing to TE

    —-

    When has he ever had 1?..

    *****************************

    Hell you dont need a good TE..you still have to show ability to pass to one and he just doesnt trust himself doing it…never has…cant excuse these USC qbs for sucking…no wonder none has ever won a SB title

    —-

    Extreme opinion. But your allowed to have that if you like.

    Doesnt make you wrong, or right.

  733. Raider O Says:

    I know some here are concerned about a few positions on offense like TE, Blocking FB, backup RB, RT, but I worry about our defense and especially our secondary.
    A good point was made earlier today about how our young and inexperienced WRs are playing better than our vet secondary which should be a concern even if there is no contact and pads.

  734. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    Does anyone know what date teams have to meet the salary cap minimum by? Teams like Jax are way under the cap. Maybe that guy with the weird mustache can share some of his $$ with us.

  735. Method To My Madness Says:

    723.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:29 am
    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:21 am
    711.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:19 am
    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:17 am
    704.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:15 am
    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:12 am
    BOOM! We’re back in 3 years, when convieniently the Heat are losing steam

    ***

    @DAV

    is that how we should approach the Raiders?

    other Magic fans would slap you around for those comments!

    —-

    Not realistic Magic fans, or the ones I know.

    If thats not how you approach the Raiders now, theres no point in talking to be honest..

    To quote Reggie, Rome wasnt built in a year.

    ********************

    Rome went down fast too

    —-

    They had a nice run though right?..

    ****************

    Bestiality and homosexuality ran rampant…no they didnt

    —-

    Well the Niners had a good year despite those issues.

    *****************

    haha good one Duece

  736. guest123 Says:

    You must have missed the CP3 interviews about how Ausberry is beasting, and them working out together..

    *******

    DAV,

    I think I remember that report, but it was from February or March. The last time I heard Carson talk about his tight ends, he more or less annointed Brandon Myers the starting role.

  737. R8ER MIKE Says:

    whats up O ??
    how was the weekend??
    any sign of our Prez??

  738. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Im not stressing about the D at all until pre-season games.. MAYBE.

    Im just thankful that we will be playing a modern style scheme.

    1st year, actually 1st off-season into a new GM/Rookie HC isnt the time to expect a Super Bowl run lol..

  739. RaiderRockstar Says:

    A good point was made earlier today about how our young and inexperienced WRs are playing better than our vet secondary which should be a concern even if there is no contact and pads.

    ***

    thanks O!

    not bad for a Podunker, eh?

  740. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    guest123 Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:36 am
    You must have missed the CP3 interviews about how Ausberry is beasting, and them working out together..

    *******

    DAV,

    I think I remember that report, but it was from February or March. The last time I heard Carson talk about his tight ends, he more or less annointed Brandon Myers the starting role.

    —-

    Politics, you dont bench a player verbally to the media in the off-season bro.

    You need all of their psyche’s to be high.

  741. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:37 am
    Im not stressing about the D at all until pre-season games.. MAYBE.

    Im just thankful that we will be playing a modern style scheme.

    1st year, actually 1st off-season into a new GM/Rookie HC isnt the time to expect a Super Bowl run lol..
    ——————–
    Can’t help but to wonder what a couple CB’s we used to employ would have done on our team in a “modern scheme”.

  742. guest123 Says:

    Waiting for the preseason to figure out if your defense is any good is like waiting till the dress rehearsal the night before the performance to see if you can actually pull off the show. By the time the dress rehearsal is over and it’s apparent that the show stinks, it’s too late.

  743. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    Good day of football talk on this blog today, pleasent surprise lol

  744. Silverandblack666 Says:

    49 days until the first pre-season game!!!!

  745. Method To My Madness Says:

    732.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:35 am
    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:33 am
    722.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:27 am
    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:23 am
    713.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:20 am
    Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:18 am
    dont want a 50-60 catch TE
    ——————
    don’t want and don’t need.

    Yes, the Raiders are going to try and be “multiple” on both offense and defense. The only thing is, Palmer has not really given the TE position much love through out his career. I don’t see him changing regardless of what is in Knapp’s new scheme.

    —-

    If Knapp calls it, and the plays are designed to get the ball to the TE, guess what.

    The TE is getting the ball bub.

    ******************

    Please be serious…you know better…Palmer not good at passing to TE

    —-

    When has he ever had 1?..

    *****************************

    Hell you dont need a good TE..you still have to show ability to pass to one and he just doesnt trust himself doing it…never has…cant excuse these USC qbs for sucking…no wonder none has ever won a SB title

    —-

    Extreme opinion. But your allowed to have that if you like.

    Doesnt make you wrong, or right.

    ******************

    Fair enough but am I right on USC qbs tho? Yes I am

  746. Method To My Madness Says:

    744.Silverandblack666 Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:42 am
    49 days until the first pre-season game!!!!

    ***********

    that number doesnt exist

  747. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    Was Vince Evans a USC product?

  748. RaiderRockstar Says:

    During the last week of OTA’s, Reggie & Dennis were both encouraged by the progress made of all the young TE’s …

    didn’t specify who had the early lead, but Myers was getting all the 1st team reps

    anything besides that and you’re just speculating

  749. Method To My Madness Says:

    743.Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:41 am
    Good day of football talk on this blog today, pleasent surprise lol

    **********

    As MistaBrown mentioned earlier…No MR or Kell…even no Beecher…so its not surprising

  750. guest123 Says:

    Myers is out front right? And it may be speculating about Gordon and Ausberry, but I know what Myers is all about. He’s garbage at TE, below avg at everything. Only redeeming quality is above avg special teams play. If Myers > Ausberry and Gordon at the break of OTA’s, yeah I’m worried about the TE position.

  751. Method To My Madness Says:

    747.Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:44 am
    Was Vince Evans a USC product?

    ***************

    My point is well taken then lmao

  752. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Waiting for the preseason to figure out if your defense is any good is like waiting till the dress rehearsal the night before the performance to see if you can actually pull off the show. By the time the dress rehearsal is over and it’s apparent that the show stinks, it’s too late

    ***

    @G123

    you practice how you play. obviously they weren’t bad enough in OTA’s to warrant dumping players and signing others. We’ll see what happens in camp. Wouldn’t be surprised to see a few roster moves on both sides of the ball. Reggie & Dennis are both rookies, remember?

  753. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:45 am
    743.Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:41 am
    Good day of football talk on this blog today, pleasent surprise lol

    **********

    As MistaBrown mentioned earlier…No MR or Kell…even no Beecher…so its not surprising
    ——————-
    although I am guitly from time to time in making Akeem “the african dream” references lol

  754. Silverandblack666 Says:

    48 days and a bunch of hours until our first pre-season game.

    Is that better B?

  755. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    MAD MAN,1ST 10 BEER’S R ON U AT THE OPENER VS. SAN DIEGO.I GOT THE REST..

  756. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:46 am
    747.Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:44 am
    Was Vince Evans a USC product?

    ***************

    My point is well taken then lmao
    —————
    poor vince, He did manage to stay in the league for quite a while though.
    I will say this- Vince Evans>Jay Schroeder

  757. JR Says:

    Raider O Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:35 am

    I know some here are concerned about a few positions on offense like TE, Blocking FB, backup RB, RT, but I worry about our defense and especially our secondary.

    ———————————————————
    TE: ??
    FB: What about SCHMITT?
    RT: Bring back Mario Williams??
    D: Geriatric CB’s and overpaid safeties PLUS “Mike the Missile”

    PROBLEMS SOLVED.

  758. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    Anyone going to the Baltimore or Carolina road games???

  759. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I know what Myers is all about. He’s garbage at TE, below avg at everything. Only redeeming quality is above avg special teams play

    ***

    @G123

    Myers has 12 career starts.

    Branch got better in his 4th year, didn’t he?

    Who says BM can’t do the same??

    his playing time, catches & yards increase every year.
    He’s only 26 years old

  760. Method To My Madness Says:

    753.Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:47 am
    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:45 am
    743.Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:41 am
    Good day of football talk on this blog today, pleasent surprise lol

    **********

    As MistaBrown mentioned earlier…No MR or Kell…even no Beecher…so its not surprising
    ——————-
    although I am guitly from time to time in making Akeem “the african dream” references lol

    *************

    youre a jive soul bro!

  761. Method To My Madness Says:

    755.DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:49 am
    MAD MAN,1ST 10 BEER’S R ON U AT THE OPENER VS. SAN DIEGO.I GOT THE REST..

    **************************

    Oh yes…30 pack is a coming that night!

  762. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    Who says BM can’t do the same??
    ———————–
    Well… the initials BM are usually a red flag for a turd sandwich lol

  763. Sullivan44 Says:

    Hey racist jerk offs,

    looks like the key provisions of your dikhead racist laws in Arizona were struck down!

    WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    F ### YOU!!!!!

  764. Method To My Madness Says:

    754.Silverandblack666 Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:48 am
    48 days and a bunch of hours until our first pre-season game.

    Is that better B?

    **************

    how many more days til you smack MR to the pavement?

  765. RaiderRockstar Says:

    RT: Bring back Mario Williams??

    ***

    @JR

    I’m sure you meant Mario Henderson, but he signed with SD this offseason

    RT = Barnes/Barks (possibly Bergs?)

  766. lefty12 Says:

    Myers has outlasted Miller and Boss.To say he is below average at everything would be a mistake.If he were that bad he wouldn’t still be around.

  767. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:52 am
    755.DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:49 am
    MAD MAN,1ST 10 BEER’S R ON U AT THE OPENER VS. SAN DIEGO.I GOT THE REST..

    **************************

    Oh yes…30 pack is a coming that night!
    ———————
    now if they only put good beer in 30 pack form…

  768. guest123 Says:

    Myers has 12 career starts.

    Branch got better in his 4th year, didn’t he?

    Who says BM can’t do the same??

    his playing time, catches & yards increase every year.
    He’s only 26 years old

    **********

    lol

    Seriously, you must have seen him play. Stiff as a board and runs ugly routes to gaps and catches easy softball pitches and immediately looks for a patch of grass to fall down. Routine is run to space, catch, wince then fall down. every friggin time.

  769. Method To My Madness Says:

    763.Sullivan44 Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:53 am
    Hey racist jerk offs,

    looks like the key provisions of your dikhead racist laws in Arizona were struck down!

    WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    F ### YOU!!!!!

    ****************

    Right on cue….he couldnt resist….

  770. Method To My Madness Says:

    How was the weekend in Sac, MR?

  771. JLofty Says:

    Met Jeff Barnes #56 in SF this weekend. Nice guy. He was raising $$ for the March of Dimes. Let me wear his ‘83 SupaBo ring while we hammed it up for a pic.
    Shared a laugh over the greatness of David Humm…

  772. Method To My Madness Says:

    766.lefty12 Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:54 am
    Myers has outlasted Miller and Boss.To say he is below average at everything would be a mistake.If he were that bad he wouldn’t still be around.

    ************

    i agree with ya OG

  773. Method To My Madness Says:

    771.JLofty Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:55 am
    Met Jeff Barnes #56 in SF this weekend. Nice guy. He was raising $$ for the March of Dimes. Let me wear his ‘83 SupaBo ring while we hammed it up for a pic.
    Shared a laugh over the greatness of David Humm…

    *****************

    At Pier 39? I met him there last Spring as well…he was hella cool

  774. Sullivan44 Says:

    I haven’t been here for two days. I log on, you guys are talking about me. Jesus christ. Who’s your daddy?

  775. Method To My Madness Says:

    762.Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:52 am
    Who says BM can’t do the same??
    ———————–
    Well… the initials BM are usually a red flag for a turd sandwich lol

    ***************

    If Kell has a good BM he wont show up

  776. Sullivan44 Says:

    How about that Derek Norris yesterday? F ### the SF midgets!

  777. JLofty Says:

    Yeah B, at that second floor shop. He was hella cool, nice guy.

  778. Raider O Says:

    ODB,

    Stressful weekend bro. My wife made me clean the carage which used to be my man cave. She wants space for her new car. That used to be my office/ man cave.
    How was your weekend bro?

    Where is our Prez? He is MIA.
    I hope all is well with my brother from another mother.

  779. Sullivan44 Says:

    That’s how things are going in sac, Brien. Derek Norris. We’re celebrating sending another f’n crusher to Oakland.

  780. Method To My Madness Says:

    774.Sullivan44 Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:57 am
    I haven’t been here for two days. I log on, you guys are talking about me. Jesus christ. Who’s your daddy?

    *****************

    Well people were noticing how peaceful it is without you adn Kell around

  781. Method To My Madness Says:

    779.Sullivan44 Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:59 am
    That’s how things are going in sac, Brien. Derek Norris. We’re celebrating sending another f’n crusher to Oakland.

    **************

    That’s a good thing to celebrate….did you mack any ladies that would make Beecher proud?

  782. R8ER MIKE Says:

    Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:50 am
    Anyone going to the Baltimore or Carolina road games???

    ******************************
    i will be at the Baltimore game !!
    and hwnrdr is trying to go to it too.

  783. Method To My Madness Says:

    777.JLofty Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:58 am
    Yeah B, at that second floor shop. He was hella cool, nice guy.

    ***************

    Hell yeah the sports store thats been there forever….cool stuff

  784. R8ER MIKE Says:

    lol lol.. burned down a forest looking for he this weekend. sorry to say,no luck !!!

  785. Raider O Says:

    Podunker,

    LOL
    You have your moments.
    I miss the daily articles you used to post (second time I tell you that, so get to work and earn your stay lol), and articles from BR don’t count.

  786. R8ER MIKE Says:

    *him

  787. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    R8ER MIKE Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
    Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:50 am
    Anyone going to the Baltimore or Carolina road games???

    ******************************
    i will be at the Baltimore game !!
    and hwnrdr is trying to go to it too.
    ————————
    would love to see a victory, lat time I was in Baltimore it was 98′ we lost. Man time flies!

  788. Method To My Madness Says:

    787.Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
    R8ER MIKE Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
    Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:50 am
    Anyone going to the Baltimore or Carolina road games???

    ******************************
    i will be at the Baltimore game !!
    and hwnrdr is trying to go to it too.
    ————————
    would love to see a victory, lat time I was in Baltimore it was 98′ we lost. Man time flies!

    *************

    we never won there vs ravens

  789. Sullivan44 Says:

    Brien, this is not the first time I’ve logged on after days away from here, and you ladies are discussing daddy. I complete you.

  790. R8ER MIKE Says:

    if you make it out this year, we will have to hook up for a few cold beers and a tree or two !!

  791. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    *last

  792. JR Says:

    Thanks for the correction.

    Yeah, I meant Henderson (tongue-in-cheek), but I think the guys there now are just as good. I’d like to see Barksdale take it from Barnes.

    Some of the other stuff I wrote was in jest, and injuries will hurt this team if the CBs get hurt.

    That being said, all of the teams have issues, and will be hurt by injuries in key places…

    I saw that the ESPN guy predicted 5-11 for the Raiders. I see 7-9 to 9-7.
    —————————————————
    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:53 am

    RT: Bring back Mario Williams??

    ***

    @JR

    I’m sure you meant Mario Henderson, but he signed with SD this offseason

    RT = Barnes/Barks (possibly Bergs?)

  793. Method To My Madness Says:

    789.Sullivan44 Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
    Brien, this is not the first time I’ve logged on after days away from here, and you ladies are discussing daddy. I complete you.

    ********************

    yeah now let me pull up all the times you talked about me when i havent been around for months!….nice try SullyMR…you cant live without us…but im glad for one weekend you finally left the blog alone…you must be coming close to scoring a date…congrats!

  794. Sullivan44 Says:

    brien you work fast food and you think you’re rich.

  795. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    R8ER MIKE Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
    if you make it out this year, we will have to hook up for a few cold beers and a tree or two !!
    —————————–
    I think if I can get out there I am going to have to get a hotel because driving 6ish hours after tailgating may not be in my best interest. I figure 1 of 2 things are going to happen after the game.

    1) I get FK’d up because we are celebrating a victory!

    2) I’m mourning a loss and get FK’d up.

  796. Method To My Madness Says:

    794.Sullivan44 Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
    brien you work fast food and you think you’re rich.

    ***************

    LOL….hey its the least you can do to help out mom with the bills MR

    Fast food industry? Naw…someone like me would get fired cuz id cook burgers and fries for myself…fk those customers

  797. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    anyone who enjoys life is rich in my opinion.
    It’s not about $$

  798. Raider O Says:

    ODB,

    Good for you!
    I destroyed my man cave/ office, and then I had to clean the garage.

  799. Method To My Madness Says:

    MR…come to a game this year…stop by the tailgate man

  800. Sullivan44 Says:

    good grief brien you didn’t even get it. Of course you’re not really from Oakland you’re from Hayward.

  801. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “brien you work fast food and you think you’re rich.”

    There he goes again saying things about people that he thought up and HE thinks is true but in reality he is wrong again.

    Stop lying about people here and you might get a warmer welcome to the blog!

  802. guest123 Says:

    RT = Barnes/Barks (possibly Bergs?)

    Scratching my head…..yeah we’re pretty much screwed at RT.

  803. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    Raider O Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
    ODB,

    Good for you!
    I destroyed my man cave/ office, and then I had to clean the garage.
    —————-
    my garage is my mantown. Silver and black of course. I also resided my house silver and black!

  804. guest123 Says:

    anyone who enjoys life is rich in my opinion.
    It’s not about $$

    ******

    truth

  805. Method To My Madness Says:

    800.Sullivan44 Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
    good grief brien you didn’t even get it. Of course you’re not really from Oakland you’re from Hayward.

    ***************

    I dont even live in Hayward anymore MR…i moved to Alameda a few months back…thanks for your concern…whats crackin in sac?

  806. Sullivan44 Says:

    *sound of an ’80s bay reference going right over brien’s head

  807. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “Of course you’re not really from Oakland you’re from Hayward.”

    And again he thinks he knows where you live because he has some kind of crystal ball or something?

    And here comes the negative attention he desires….

  808. Raidernationdave Says:

    I’m with you DAV.

    TBranch quietly does his job, makes all the tackles that Huffy refuses to attempt and fields his position well enough that he isn’t referred to as “toast” everyday like a certain CB that was just released was affectionately referred to.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 11:00 am

    I refuse to worry about Branch on June 25th.

    If you dont like him, so be it.

    They didnt like DMC either.

    I trust Reggie McKenzie’s eye for talent WAY more than an opinion from this blog lol..

  809. theghostronin79 Says:

    I think it’s a good day when we’re speculating about TE’s. We’re not sitting here going

    “MAN, we need a top shelf Running back”
    “Damn, we need some receivers.”
    “Man we gotta fix that O-Line.”
    “We need a legit QB fellas.”

    NOPE, we’re talking about TE’s……….It is a GOOD DAY in the Nation.

  810. Method To My Madness Says:

    806.Sullivan44 Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
    *sound of an ’80s bay reference going right over brien’s head

    ***********************

    Dummy you putting my name in that jcat schit…nada went over my head…dont act liek youre being friendly and trying to chum it up with me

  811. Sullivan44 Says:

    Brien,

    3:38 of this video:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMIwBdOHuHc

  812. Raider O Says:

    HB,

    Great!
    I feel much better now about destroying my man cave/ office. You are so helpful.

  813. guest123 Says:

    … we’re talking about TE’s……….It is a GOOD DAY in the Nation.

    *******

    YUP

  814. Method To My Madness Says:

    MR…it would be one thing if ya just did the quote by itself…but throwing my name up in there? come on bruh

    and this idiot said a bay reference? hayward aint in the bay lol…so stupid

    So when you gonna organize the Sacramento Chapter of the Black Panther party

  815. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    Raider O Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
    HB,

    Great!
    I feel much better now about destroying my man cave/ office. You are so helpful.
    ——————
    Well, If you ever come to the east coast to watch a game at least you can crash in it!

  816. Raidernationdave Says:

    I think you are right on with that comment. I think even the TE position will be awaken under GK’s offense. It’s not as if we have -0- TE’s that can’t play.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++

    theghostronin79 Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 12:16 pm

    I think it’s a good day when we’re speculating about TE’s. We’re not sitting here going

    “MAN, we need a top shelf Running back”
    “Damn, we need some receivers.”
    “Man we gotta fix that O-Line.”
    “We need a legit QB fellas.”

    NOPE, we’re talking about TE’s……….It is a GOOD DAY in the Nation.

  817. Method To My Madness Says:

    Duh MR…jacka a few bay cats did a remake of it in like 2006….you are saying nada new…they also were playing that schit ni the Too Short tribute dvd that came out inthe bay about 6-7 years ago….yawwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnnnnn

  818. Sullivan44 Says:

    Might be some old Panther affiliates in Oak Park and Del Paso Heights, Brien. You should come down here and meet them.

  819. Sullivan44 Says:

    Brien, admit it. It wen’t over your head. I know you. You would have called it from the get go had you got it. You never let a hip hop reference get by. You’re just young and not up on that too short game like me.

  820. Raider O Says:

    HB,

    Thx bro. lol

  821. Raidernationdave Says:

    PMPP rules…..

    Green Party Rules.

  822. RaiderRockstar Says:

    new post

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