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Live chat: Inside the Oakland Raiders, Tuesday, noon

By Jon Becker
Monday, June 25th, 2012 at 12:20 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Steve Corkran will answer your Raiders questions Tuesday at noon during a live chat.

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  1. Method To My Madness Says:

    Duh MR…jacka a few bay cats did a remake of it in like 2006….you are saying nada new…they also were playing that schit ni the Too Short tribute dvd that came out inthe bay about 6-7 years ago….yawwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnnnnn

  2. Method To My Madness Says:

    818.Sullivan44 Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
    Might be some old Panther affiliates in Oak Park and Del Paso Heights, Brien. You should come down here and meet them.

    ******************

    I’m sure a down wigger such as yourself knows eh White Mike?

  3. Method To My Madness Says:

    819.Sullivan44 Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
    Brien, admit it. It wen’t over your head. I know you. You would have called it from the get go had you got it. You never let a hip hop reference get by. You’re just young and not up on that too short game like me.

    **************

    Jcat….you were using that as a diss on me…hence using Brien first…moron

  4. Sullivan44 Says:

    I don’t know, Brien. That’s why I said there might be. Cornell West is from Del Paso Heights. He was on t.v. once talking about some of the racial issues in Sacramento in the 50s and 60s. It was a few years back. Wish I could find the transcripts.

  5. Method To My Madness Says:

    Ha MR…you will never know more Too Short than me lol

  6. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    yo

  7. Method To My Madness Says:

    Its bad when you have a white guy try this hard to be black….bet your family bought you a doo rag for xmas in 87 huh?

  8. Method To My Madness Says:

    4.Sullivan44 Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
    I don’t know, Brien. That’s why I said there might be. Cornell West is from Del Paso Heights. He was on t.v. once talking about some of the racial issues in Sacramento in the 50s and 60s. It was a few years back. Wish I could find the transcripts.

    *************

    Rally the old crew up MR and take down the man again

  9. Method To My Madness Says:

    As George Carlin said…”sit your white ass down and listen to some rock music” lol

  10. Raidernationdave Says:

    It’s pretty bad when the Live Chat notice comes a day in advance

  11. JLofty Says:

    Corky gunna be back from the vaca in time?

  12. Method To My Madness Says:

    10.Raidernationdave Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
    It’s pretty bad when the Live Chat notice comes a day in advance

    ********

    yea

  13. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “Its bad when you have a white guy try this hard to be black….bet your family bought you a doo rag for xmas in 87 huh?”

    And a pack of Newports!

  14. Method To My Madness Says:

    be back later

  15. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    Alive with pleasure!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  16. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Do people still go to his chats?

  17. JLofty Says:

    It will be interesting to see how some of the youths develop in the next few years.
    That was one thing I think really hurt the Raiders was the disconnect between Al and the constantly changing coaching staff. Al was picking these youngsters, many with good upside but I am not so sure the revolving door coaches always got them coached up properly. The coaches knew they had to win now, and that doesn’t lend itself to developing young raw talent.
    I think the REG and new staff have a longer more sustainable leash and plan to create a team that can win for a while not just the win before I die plan of recent years…

  18. Silverandblack666 Says:

    I go to the chats but he will only answer your question if its one that has been asked and answered 100 times so strange how that works but yeah I will be there.

  19. JLofty Says:

    And thusly, JLofty is now hopeful that David Ausberry can turn into a dangerous weapon maybe sorta like Marcel Reece is becoming….

  20. joker94583 Says:

    Live chat tomorrow! My week just got better!

  21. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    18.Silverandblack666 Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
    I go to the chats but he will only answer your question if its one that has been asked and answered 100 times so strange how that works but yeah I will be there.

    ————————
    Steve definetley majored in “how to answer 1 question a million ways in college! LOL clearly he got an A in that course. Steve don’t be shy, answer some of the tough questions. They can’t all be softballs!

  22. DutchRaider77 Says:

    How many times will Cork field the, “Why did we cut Micahel Bush (And or Jason Campbell)” question.

  23. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    He never answered my ?’s about Giordano, so Istopped going :)

  24. R8ER MIKE Says:

    ?? HB. where on the east coast are you ??

  25. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    R8ER MIKE Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
    ?? HB. where on the east coast are you ??
    ——————
    western mass

  26. RaiderRockstar Says:

    RT = Barnes/Barks (possibly Bergs?)

    Scratching my head…..yeah we’re pretty much screwed at RT.

    ***

    @G123

    Barnes had 11 penalties for 70 yards last year. 6 false starts, 3 holding calls, 3.5 sacks allowed

    http://www.profootballweekly.com/players/khalif-barnes-148729/

    Super Bowl Giants OT Will Beatty had 3 holding calls and 3.5 sacks allowed in only 10 games last year. if Barnes can quit with the false starts he’ll be fine at RT imo

  27. RaiderRockstar Says:

    last time I complained about Steve ignoring my questions in the live chat, he answered like 4 out of 5!

    you guys are on the right track :)

  28. guest123 Says:

    @Rockstar,

    yeahup, I still say we’re screwed @ RT.

  29. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    guest123 Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
    @Rockstar,

    yeahup, I still say we’re screwed @ RT.

    —-

    Steelers & Packers have 2 of the worst OLs year in & out..

    Just sayin..

  30. guest123 Says:

    Cork sees the questions and answers spit fire fast in the chats. But he will see a question repeated 3 or 4 times and skip it if he doesn’t like it. It could be a very fair question, but there are places Cork won’t go. Still, he’s pretty candid with the response he does decide to answer.

  31. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Tyvon Branch only has 3 forced fumbles, 3 INT’s & 15 passes defensed in 4 years with Oakland …

    Michael Griffin (Titans) who also received the franchise tag this offseason and was just rewarded with a 5-year $35 million contract ** that Branch wants to match ** had 6 forced fumbles, 14 INT’s & 37 passes defensed in 4 years with Tennessee

    Source: http://www.profootballweekly.com

  32. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “Michael Griffin (Titans) who also received the franchise tag this offseason and was just rewarded with a 5-year $35 million contract ** that Branch wants to match ** had 6 forced fumbles, 14 INT’s & 37 passes defensed in 4 years with Tennessee”

    Thus giving credence to what we have been saying in here all off season that he is not as good as Griffin and should not be paid similarly.

  33. RaiderRockstar Says:

    sorry, those stats were only from Griffin’s past 4 years with the Titans. he’s actually a 5-year vet

    stats @ same date span though (2008-2011) for both players

  34. RaiderRockstar Says:

    exactly, silver.

    Branch is not a playmaker.. but hey!!

    he makes a lot of tackles

  35. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
    sorry, those stats were only from Griffin’s past 4 years with the Titans. he’s actually a 5-year vet

    stats @ same date span though (2008-2011) for both players

    —-

    If only we could see Griffin’s stats if they swapped teams..

  36. Dakota Says:

    Branch is OVERRATED!!!!!

    boom boom
    boom boom boom

  37. theghostronin79 Says:

    There are alot of irrelivent questions on these chats…

    “How’s the defense looking?”….Well, they ain’t got pads on yet so, uh, we don’t know.

    “Lets cut Lechler for cap space.”…..F-ing Retard.

    “Why did Hue Jackson say blah, blah, blah?”….Shut up about Jackson already.

    SMH…..I show up anyway, and he answers my questions once in awhile.

  38. Sullivan44 Says:

    Brien,

    George Carlin:

    “Another thing that gets on my nerves is white people who try to act black. White people, listen to me, you will never be as cool as black people. Not going to happen. Doesn’t matter what dance or funny little hand shake you learn. You will never be as cool as black people. You know why? Because you’re white, and you’re lame!”

  39. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    I love how nobody remembers how outdated and ineffective our scheme on D was..

    Oh well.

    There’s a horse, who is dead. And they are beating it..

  40. guest123 Says:

    Branch is OVERRATED!!!!!

    boom boom
    boom boom boom

    ********

    LMAO!!

    Nice way to head out the door. Later.

  41. Sullivan44 Says:

    666,

    Why would you say Newports? What is that supposed to mean?

  42. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Tyvon Branch only has 3 forced fumbles, 3 INT’s & 15 passes defensed in 4 years with Oakland …

    Michael Griffin (Titans) who also received the franchise tag this offseason and was just rewarded with a 5-year $35 million contract ** that Branch wants to match ** had 6 forced fumbles, 14 INT’s & 37 passes defensed in his last 4 years with Tennessee

    old man Adrian Wilson had 4 forced fumbles, 10 INT’s & 41 passes defensed in his last 4 years with Arizona Cards

    Source: http://www.profootballweekly.com

  43. Sullivan44 Says:

    Ah, are the Davis minions still in a hissy fit over Huff calling out Al Davis’s horribly outdated defense?

  44. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    Cyrax wins

  45. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    I’ll join in on the ignorance..

    That Lamar Houston better not want any money either, boy does he suck..

    *looks up stats that are irrelevant*

  46. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “Why would you say Newports? What is that supposed to mean?”

    Its a secret code B and I use to mock you….it means when are you coming to my front door to slap like you said 40 times you would right here on this blog?

  47. lefty12 Says:

    DAV is one of the few who really gets it.

  48. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “Ah, are the Davis minions still in a hissy fit over Huff calling out Al Davis’s horribly outdated defense?”

    You mean the exact defense that Tom Coughlin installed in NY where they just won a SUPER BOWL!!!

    Its not the X’s and the O’s its the willies and the Joe’s.

    A poor craftsman always blames his tools!

  49. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Tyvon Branch only has 3 forced fumbles, 3 INT’s & 15 passes defensed in 4 years with Oakland …

    Mike Huff had 3 forced fumbles, 8 INT’s & 30 passes defensed in his last 4 years with Oakland …

    “7/31/2011: Signed a four-year, $32 million contract. The deal contains $16 million guaranteed”

    Can we afford to pay both safeties a combined $16 million?

    Huff has clearly outplayed Branch in the same defense!

  50. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    lefty12 Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
    DAV is one of the few who really gets it.

    —-

    Appreciate that Lefty.

  51. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    If you guys play your cards right you may just have a chance to watch the Octomom porn! lol

  52. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Tom Coughlin installed a simliar D concept to Al’s.

    He didnt install THAT exact defense.

    He also has the D-Lineman to get pressure so his weak secondary doesnt stand out.

  53. Silverandblack666 Says:

    I seriously doubt there is a scheme out there that allows #55 to jog slowly behind runners or allows for his sloppy tackling or his inability to shed blocks. Let me know if you find one.

  54. RaiderRockstar Says:

    @DAV

    Lamarr Houston is under contract for the next 2 years.
    2014 free agent. his body of work is half the size of Branch’s. [2 years verses 4 years] pick somebody else

  55. Dakota Says:

    53.Silverandblack666 Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
    I seriously doubt there is a scheme out there that allows #55 to jog slowly behind runners or allows for his sloppy tackling or his inability to shed blocks. Let me know if you find one.
    +++++++++

    Don’t forget, he had an injury, I think it was a pulled v@gina, for his first two seasons!

  56. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “Tom Coughlin installed a simliar D concept to Al’s.

    He didnt install THAT exact defense.

    He also has the D-Lineman to get pressure so his weak secondary doesnt stand out.”

    So you admit that was the case and you admit that they won a Super Bowl with that defense. Sure he has a great front 4 but that’s part of the scheme.

    Just admit it, guys whiffing and playing at half speed will not be fixed by a magical scheme.

  57. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
    @DAV

    Lamarr Houston is under contract for the next 2 years.
    2014 free agent. his body of work is half the size of Branch’s. [2 years verses 4 years] pick somebody else

    —-

    I think you missed the point.

  58. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “He didnt install THAT exact defense.”

    If not exact pretty damn close or a slight variation.

    Cant argue with a Super Bowl win.

    One last time for the reading impaired…..its not the X’s and O’s its the players. If it was you could take a team of scrubs and non drafted free agents and beat everyone with your magic scheme.

  59. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
    “Tom Coughlin installed a simliar D concept to Al’s.

    He didnt install THAT exact defense.

    He also has the D-Lineman to get pressure so his weak secondary doesnt stand out.”

    So you admit that was the case and you admit that they won a Super Bowl with that defense. Sure he has a great front 4 but that’s part of the scheme.

    Just admit it, guys whiffing and playing at half speed will not be fixed by a magical scheme.

    —-

    No thats not what I said, please re-read before you put words onto my keyboard.

  60. KoolKell Says:

    You can’t compare the stats of players in two different schemes, without comparing the schemes, which I doubt anybody here is capable of.

  61. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “Don’t forget, he had an injury, I think it was a pulled v@gina, for his first two seasons!”

    Wiz played injured and his play did not drop off nor did he use his injury as an excuse.

    Just saying!

  62. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    So this masterful Al Davis scheme doesnt need the right coach to call the right plays, all it needs is the right players.

    Got it.

  63. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “No thats not what I said, please re-read before you put words onto my keyboard.”

    The NY Giants use the same scheme as we do with a slight variation. They won the Super Bowl. There is no denying those facts.

    One last time! A new scheme is not going to fix players not giving full effort or help them shed blocks or help them be better tacklers.

  64. Sullivan44 Says:

    666,

    For some reason Huff doesn’t believe the Raiders have been using Tom Coughlin’s defense. Maybe you can explain it to him. Surely you’ve played in the NFL.

  65. KoolKell Says:

    I have to go with the new regime, and their analysis.

  66. Sullivan44 Says:

    DennisAllensVisor,

    Forget it, man. I mean, what does Huff know? He’s only played in the NFL. Been on that field on sundays, crossed the white line, and has been in NFL huddles and team meetings. What would he know? Surely he needs a fanboy like 666 to explain NFL f’n defenses to him.

  67. JLofty Says:

    “I think you missed the point.”
    - or “whiffed” the point as the case may be…

  68. TxRaider210 Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
    “No thats not what I said, please re-read before you put words onto my keyboard.”

    The NY Giants use the same scheme as we do with a slight variation. They won the Super Bowl. There is no denying those facts.

    One last time! A new scheme is not going to fix players not giving full effort or help them shed blocks or help them be better tacklers.

    ———————–
    Maybe the scheme won’t bro, but I doubt RM or DA will allow any slackin off in general..

  69. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
    “No thats not what I said, please re-read before you put words onto my keyboard.”

    The NY Giants use the same scheme as we do with a slight variation. They won the Super Bowl. There is no denying those facts.

    One last time! A new scheme is not going to fix players not giving full effort or help them shed blocks or help them be better tacklers.

    —-

    Its not about just SCHEME.

    Coaching, scheme & players coming together gets you the desired outcome.

  70. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Wiz played injured and his play did not drop off nor did he use his injury as an excuse.

    Just saying!

    ***

    @silver

    Wiz II was a rookie. We have no idea what he would be capable of if healthy last season, but what we got from him as a rookie last year playing all 16 games with a torn labrum was nothing short of amazing, considering the circumstances. I think we would have beat out Satele for the Center job, but then who would have played LG? Heyer?

  71. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Lombardi ran the sweep 25-30 times a game everyone knew it was coming the challenge was stopping it.

    No fancy scheme just pure execution.

    How you can argue that or the fact that the NY Giants won the Super Bowl is beyond me.

    Scheme is not going to help guy shed blocks or tackle better. I am not sure why everyone thinks there is some magical scheme out there that is going to solve these basic issues. Working hard in camp on fundamentals is the only way to solve it.

  72. Sullivan44 Says:

    666, a f’n player who played in the defense for the past 6 years f’n said it’s the worst f’n defense in football!!!! We’re going to believe you over him?

  73. JLofty Says:

    “guys whiffing and playing at half speed will not be fixed by a magical scheme.”
    -No it will be corrected by a general manager who will get rid of players doing that. It will be corrected by a GM who enables his coach to sit/play ANYONE who needs a lesson in accountability.
    THAT will fix it! A few new wrinkles won’t hurt either…

  74. RaiderRockstar Says:

    @DAV

    so whats your point then, if I missed it?

    make it clear for us Podunkers

  75. Sullivan44 Says:

    And Huff isn’t the first.

    Sapp.

    Schweigert.

    Gannon has alluded to it several times. Gannon was an MVP so pleas F ### off!

  76. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Toronto about to send the #8 pick to Houston for Lowry.

    Guess that MAGIC/ROCKETS trade wasnt too far fetched huh :)

  77. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “Maybe the scheme won’t bro, but I doubt RM or DA will allow any slackin off in general..”

    Being held accountable will be the underlying reason we have success next year. This is a product of RM and DA and the structure they are implementing now.

    Yes I agree with you.

  78. Sullivan44 Says:

    What did Sapp say?

    Coach would have a defense in? Al would say nope, tear it up, make them play his defense.

    Deny that 666 you f’n fanboy.

  79. JLofty Says:

    The number one change on Defense will be ACCOUNTIBILITY.
    Crucial to TEAM defense schemes and straegies. ANY scheme needs to start and end with the players being accountable…

  80. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
    @DAV

    so whats your point then, if I missed it?

    make it clear for us Podunkers

    —-

    Your too infatuated with stats from players who were week in & week out put in situations to fail.

    Remove yourself from the detail and look at the big picture of it bro.

    What your trying to say, just isnt there.

  81. Sullivan44 Says:

    It goes back to the god damned 80s!

    Kool Kell, do you still have the link to that old SI article?

  82. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Huff is a player who has struggled and not lived up to his expectations of a 1st round draft pick.

    Instead of shouldering the blame he chose to put it on Al Davis and his outdated 2012 Super Bowl winning scheme.

    Huff needs to be quiet and get to work and show us he is worth the money AL paid him to bad mouth him after he passed on.

  83. JLofty Says:

    @82: true dat. It’a been a whole lot classier to just talk up the new coach/scheme, no need to bring up what everyone knew to be true…

  84. Sullivan44 Says:

    666 f ### you!! Huff has played the game. You haven’t. End of story. If he hadn’t said this, you’d be telling us that none of the players have criticized Al’s defense. Well, hell, one did. Now what? And he isn’t the first. Schweigert, Sapp… Go ahead, smear them now too. Politics as usual. Al was using a 50 year old defense in Oakland and the whole league knew it.

  85. TxRaider210 Says:

    JLofty Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 1:25 pm
    The number one change on Defense will be ACCOUNTIBILITY.
    Crucial to TEAM defense schemes and straegies. ANY scheme needs to start and end with the players being accountable…

    -00———-
    Precisely…putting the best guys on the field means guys who don’t take plays off and always work.

  86. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Yeah Sapp there is a source for information didn’t he just do a back pedal on the Jeremy Shocky thing.

    In fact didn’t that almost cost him his job.

    yeah great resource for anything Warren Sapp!!

    LMFAO your such a tool!

    Its too bad Coughlin won that Super Bowl it shows how ignorant you are.

  87. Dakota Says:

    GOOOOOOO RAAAAAAAIDERS!

  88. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Your too infatuated with stats from players who were week in & week out put in situations to fail.

    ***

    @DAV

    so Giordano was “put in situations to fail” ??

    holy cow! he’s gonna go to the Pro Bowl this year! Huff too!

    both players made more plays than Branch. is there now hope for Mike Mitchell, too?

  89. KoolKell Says:

    Ray Lewis pitched a btch when his nose tackle was having contract troubles. Ngola keeps him free, and protected to make plays. Nobody keeps Guards off McClain, scheme wise.

  90. Sullivan44 Says:

    And this is just the beginning. Al hasn’t been dead a year yet. Everyone plays nice immediately after the death but now that Al’s not here to sue every single critic he can for slander, I have feeling that the gloves are coming off some of those people he’s done wrong in the pass, via tell all books.

  91. Sullivan44 Says:

    Ha, I f’n knew it! You’re going after Sapp’s credibility now, too.

    3, moron. 3.

    Sapp.

    Schweigert.

    now Huff.

    And that’s not even counting everything Gannon has said about this place.

  92. Dakota Says:

    We may not be great next season, or even in the next couple of seasons, but at least we have a 21st century organization now, with a chance to compete.

    Makes me smile every time I think about it.

  93. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “JLofty Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 1:25 pm
    The number one change on Defense will be ACCOUNTIBILITY.
    Crucial to TEAM defense schemes and straegies. ANY scheme needs to start and end with the players being accountable…

    -00———-
    Precisely…putting the best guys on the field means guys who don’t take plays off and always work.”

    This is so true I agree 100% accountability will be the difference this year!

    I blame Al for that he never allowed the coaches to authority to enforce their agenda or rules.

  94. RaiderRockstar Says:

    The number one change on Defense will be ACCOUNTIBILITY.
    Crucial to TEAM defense schemes and straegies. ANY scheme needs to start and end with the players being accountable…

    ***

    @JLofty

    since BCZ isn’t here to defend himself…

    what did you want Hue Jackson to do? yell louder?

  95. Sullivan44 Says:

    How many f’n teams in the league have 3 people who played there in the past 5 years that have come out and said that the owner simply would not let coaches adapt the defense to modern times? Only one. This is not normal. It was a disaster in Oakland.

  96. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
    And this is just the beginning. Al hasn’t been dead a year yet. Everyone plays nice immediately after the death but now that Al’s not here to sue every single critic he can for slander, I have feeling that the gloves are coming off some of those people he’s done wrong in the pass, via tell all books.
    ——————-
    there is still far more people/families that he has taken care of.

  97. Marks hair Says:

    92. Thats how I see it too.

  98. theghostronin79 Says:

    We may not be great next season, or even in the next couple of seasons, but at least we have a 21st century organization now, with a chance to compete.

    Makes me smile every time I think about it.

    ============================

    True story….

  99. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
    Your too infatuated with stats from players who were week in & week out put in situations to fail.

    ***

    @DAV

    so Giordano was “put in situations to fail” ??

    holy cow! he’s gonna go to the Pro Bowl this year! Huff too!

    both players made more plays than Branch. is there now hope for Mike Mitchell, too?

    —-

    Yes they all were. And they all failed.

    Giordano caught 5 errant passes. Cool. He accounted for more TDs given up with angles, missed tackles, gettting flat out run by, running into a blocker instead of around. etc.

    Your point is very weak. With all due respect.

  100. Sullivan44 Says:

    And, btw, the fact that it’s now beyond any sane person’s reasonable doubt that Al tainted the defense, that pretty much vindicates every offensive coach here too. What can you expect them to do when you have a defense using a half century old scheme? Hue. Cable Kiffin. Shell. Norv. Gruden. All of them. VINDICATED!!!

  101. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 1:30 pm
    Ha, I f’n knew it! You’re going after Sapp’s credibility now, too.

    3, moron. 3.

    Sapp.

    Schweigert.

    now Huff.

    And that’s not even counting everything Gannon has said about this place.
    ———————–
    Hmmm… And those former players all have an axe to grind too. How convenient.

  102. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Dakota Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 1:30 pm
    We may not be great next season, or even in the next couple of seasons, but at least we have a 21st century organization now, with a chance to compete.

    Makes me smile every time I think about it.

    —-

    Well said.

  103. Marks hair Says:

    91. Dont forget namdi

  104. TxRaider210 Says:

    The Raiders will silence crowds like Rich Franklin silenced that crowd in Brazil this past weekend! You could have heard a fart in that place when he won.

  105. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Yes, if im Michael Huff, I have a HUGE axe to grind.

    Being told to play an outdated scheme by an incompetent coach, costing us games. Yes.

  106. RaiderRockstar Says:

    @Kell

    you’re right, but Ngata isn’t a NT. Kelly Gregg was in Baltimore prior to joining KC last offseason.

    Ngata = 3-4 DE

    not sure who filled the NT role last year, Terrence Cody ?

    this offseason they added vets Ma’ake Kemoeatu & Ryan McBean in free agency and acquired Nick Jean-Baptiste [undrafted]

    it is clearly a position they are trying to fix. same thing in Pittsburgh. both physical defenses

  107. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    VINDICATED!!!
    —————-
    nothing vindicates some of those knuckleheads!

  108. purvisman Says:

    Everybody btchin’ about Cork answering the same old questions on live chat. Start posting your questions right now. We get a list going to refer to tomorrow, adjusting the order between now and then, and we can bombard him with the questions we want answered.

  109. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Ok Sandusky44 calm down your blood pressure is rising again.

    So 3 people have spoken out about AL’s defense those are pretty good numbers seeing how he must have had 1,000 players play in his defense over the years and to find that there are 3 who are unhappy with it certainly proves your point!

    Lets look at who those 3 are:

    Sapp: Loud mouth no credibility did nothing here but collect a check and you take his word as biblical.

    Schweigert: yeah there is a future Hall of famer! How many of us could not wait to ship that guy out of town.

    Huff: Still has not lived up to his draft status so he blames a dead guy…CLASSY all the way!

    The other 997 players who played in that defense are all quiet so you are at .03% WOW lets all get on that band wagon!

    LMAO tool!

  110. theghostronin79 Says:

    LMAO…..I figured Rich would win that one, but I didn’t get to watch it.

  111. Sullivan44 Says:

    You can pull the disgruntled card when one guy comes out and bashes the system. Maybe two. But 3 is starting to get beyond reasonable doubt. Then add Gannon’s input, which says Al was f’n everything up from one end of the building to the next.

  112. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 1:35 pm
    Yes, if im Michael Huff, I have a HUGE axe to grind.

    Being told to play an outdated scheme by an incompetent coach, costing us games. Yes.
    —————
    Why say it though???? How about just go out this year and play like a high number 1 pick is expected to!

  113. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Giordano caught 5 errant passes

    ***

    @DAV

    how many did Branch catch?

    nevermind.

  114. purvisman Says:

    I,m going to ask him how he feels about us hijacking the blog last week to escape the 3,000 post fiasco.

  115. Sullivan44 Says:

    Like I said, 666. What other team in the past 5 years has had 3, count it, 3 players come out and criticize the system and scheme? None. Just the Raiders. It’s not normal. It’s not just the way former players are disgruntled. It’s exclusive to the Raiders! So stop being full of s###!!!

  116. Marks hair Says:

    109. Namdi was pretty credible, and he brought up our dumb D scheme all the time.. I wonder why we didnt resign him hmmmm….

  117. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Welcome to the new democracy where .03% is a majority that is correct and the other 997 are wrong!

    This is the Sandusky44 perception!

    You are reaching.

  118. TxRaider210 Says:

    theghostronin79 Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 1:36 pm
    LMAO…..I figured Rich would win that one, but I didn’t get to watch it.

    ——————-
    It was a decent fight bro, Rich was saved by the bell in the 2nd and Silva saved by the bell in the 3rd, with Rich hanging on for the decision.

  119. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “Yes, if im Michael Huff, I have a HUGE axe to grind.

    Being told to play an outdated scheme by an incompetent coach, costing us games. Yes.”

    Huff should be a good enough athlete to play in any scheme and excel in it for the amount of money we have paid that guy.

  120. TxRaider210 Says:

    purvisman Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
    I,m going to ask him how he feels about us hijacking the blog last week to escape the 3,000 post fiasco.

    ——————–
    Tell him we have the Somali-pirate mind-set, and we will hi-jack his blog again!lol

  121. Sullivan44 Says:

    Sapp
    Schweigert
    Huff
    Gannon

    …and that’s just this era.

    Then you have Marcus Allen speaking of the ’80s (he’s a hall of famer)

    Shannahan (2 Super Bowl victories, probably in the hall)

    Stabler …a drunk, indeed, but no reason to lie about this.

  122. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Did Routt bad mouth us on the way out the door?

    Did Namdi?

    They had a better reason to than Huff?

    A poor craftsman always blames his tools. Huff blames scheme that won a Super Bowl.

    The facts are there you are choosing to ignore them.

  123. Marks hair Says:

    119. Right. Money & draft status makes you learn, fit in and play well.. Why even have coaches?

  124. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Ok so 4 people out of the thousands that have played for us complained about being here.

    WOW you got a case call Gloria Albright!!

  125. theghostronin79 Says:

    Cool… I’m gonna check out the Sonnen Silva fight in a couple weeks.

  126. Marks hair Says:

    122. Namdi complained about the D every time they put a camera on him.. It why we didnt even talk to his agent..

  127. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Again.

    Coaching AND scheme AND players…(repeat)

  128. Sullivan44 Says:

    666,

    There was never a vote. You’re tallying expressed opinions, which is not a scientific way of determining public opinion.

    How about an election with all former Raiders employees and players, as to whether or not a)Al meddled in defense, and b) it cost a lot of games.

    Private ballots! Everything anonymous. Each player/ former employee shows up, checks their name off, gives a folded secret ballot, ballots are counted by a third party.

    The results go 90/10 that Al just ruined their defenses, and you know it.

  129. Marks hair Says:

    122. The craftsman is AL. The tools are his players. Not the other way around..

  130. Sullivan44 Says:

    666, you’re not even worth it fanboy!!

    Give me one reason why I should believe you over 3 players that have played in the league? Dips#it.

  131. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “119. Right. Money & draft status makes you learn, fit in and play well.. Why even have coaches?”

    You know its so funny how much credence people put into a scheme but you still have to execute!

    Sure our defensive scheme was out of date we all know that but it can work as the Giants showed us with the proper PLAYERS!

    The thing that Huff and everyone else should be talking about is ACCOUNTABILITY this is what has changed since Al is gone that is going to have the biggest impact on how we play not scheme.

  132. TxRaider210 Says:

    theghostronin79 Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 1:44 pm
    Cool… I’m gonna check out the Sonnen Silva fight in a couple weeks.

    ———————————

    That should be a good one man, Silva is pinpoint accurate with strikes.

  133. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Polamalu only had 2 INTS

    Giordano had 5.

    #Playmaker

  134. TxRaider210 Says:

    I’m out of this crap-hole called work, holla from the casa gents.

  135. purvisman Says:

    Silverandblack666 Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) DutchRaider77 `DennisAllensVisor RaiderRockstar guest123 theghostronin79 Everybody btchin’ about Cork answering the same old questions on live chat. Start posting your questions right now. We get a list going to refer to tomorrow, adjusting the order between now and then, and we can bombard him with the questions we want answered.

  136. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “Coaching AND scheme AND players…(repeat)”

    I disagree

    Good Players then good coaching then scheme in that order.

  137. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 1:48 pm
    “Coaching AND scheme AND players…(repeat)”

    I disagree

    Good Players then good coaching then scheme in that order.

    —-

    Your really reaching arent ya.

    I said AND.

    not THEN.

    There is no order. You need them all to come together period.

  138. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Money & draft status makes you learn, fit in and play well.. Why even have coaches?

    ***

    Ouch!

    Marks Hair wins.

  139. theghostronin79 Says:

    theghostronin79 Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 1:44 pm
    Cool… I’m gonna check out the Sonnen Silva fight in a couple weeks.

    ———————————

    That should be a good one man, Silva is pinpoint accurate with strikes
    ====================================

    Oh yeah, I think he’s got a point to prove this time. I saw all of Anderson’s fights so far. Remember what he did to Belfort? Anderson ain’t playin anymore. Shael been talkin too much crap.

  140. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Sonnen will win.

  141. theghostronin79 Says:

    Think so DAV?….I don’t know man. Last time, I swear, Anderson looked up at the clock and slapped that Triangle in to finish. Like he “Decided” to end it. He didn’t even celebrate. He just got up and walked away.

    I would LOVE to see Silva vs “Bones” Jones but, that’ll probably never happen. Anderson got nothin’ to gain by going up to 205.

  142. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    theghostronin79 Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 1:55 pm
    Think so DAV?….I don’t know man. Last time, I swear, Anderson looked up at the clock and slapped that Triangle in to finish. Like he “Decided” to end it. He didn’t even celebrate. He just got up and walked away.

    I would LOVE to see Silva vs “Bones” Jones but, that’ll probably never happen. Anderson got nothin’ to gain by going up to 205.

    —-

    Thats cuz he was getting beat up for 4 1/2 rounds before that..lol he had no energy.

    Jones would kill Silva.

    Jones walks around at as small HW bro, Silva couldnt handle him.

  143. Dakota Says:

    I still remember the Patriots coming out and saying it took them all of 15 minutes to break down our defensive scheme in the film room.

    RIP Al Davis.

  144. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “—-

    Your really reaching arent ya.

    I said AND.

    not THEN.

    There is no order. You need them all to come together period.”

    You are really missing the point here maybe it’s a communication thing but seriously come one man your telling us that players and coaches and scheme have to all be on the same page to win.

    Isn’t that like saying grass is green and the sky is blue and Sandusky44 is has mental illness. These are things we all know they are very elementary so not sure why you are trying to argue with me over such a simple topic.

    I am sure we can all agree that those three things must work together in order to have a winning team so one more time please try again to explain how a new scheme changes things in so called evaluation of players coaches scheme.

  145. ohioraider Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 1:13 pm

    “He didnt install THAT exact defense.”

    If not exact pretty damn close or a slight variation.

    Cant argue with a Super Bowl win.

    One last time for the reading impaired…..its not the X’s and O’s its the players. If it was you could take a team of scrubs and non drafted free agents and beat everyone with your magic scheme.
    ==================================================
    Eh, it’s all of the above. Players, scheme, coaching, culture, attitude. But you need to fit the scheme to your talent, not the other way around, which is what Al kept doing, quite futilely over the past decade. So ask yourself, why are Allen and McKenzie overhauling the schemes? Because they want to put the players in the best position to succeed, not stack the odds against them.

  146. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “I still remember the Patriots coming out and saying it took them all of 15 minutes to break down our defensive scheme in the film room.

    RIP Al Davis.”

    It would take even less time to break down Lombardi’s sweep he is going to run 30 times a game.

    Its called EXECUTION!

    You see execution trumps scheme every time!

  147. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    S&B6, I dont even remember the original point man.

    No big deal.

  148. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
    “I still remember the Patriots coming out and saying it took them all of 15 minutes to break down our defensive scheme in the film room.

    RIP Al Davis.”

    It would take even less time to break down Lombardi’s sweep he is going to run 30 times a game.

    Its called EXECUTION!

    You see execution trumps scheme every time!

    —-

    Yea, and players dont execute on their own. Theyre coached to that level.

  149. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “Eh, it’s all of the above. Players, scheme, coaching, culture, attitude. But you need to fit the scheme to your talent, not the other way around, which is what Al kept doing, quite futilely over the past decade. So ask yourself, why are Allen and McKenzie overhauling the schemes? Because they want to put the players in the best position to succeed, not stack the odds against them.”

    Nice post and I will say it again for the 10th time today….. ACCOUNTABILITY is what RM and DA are installing that will be the single biggest reason we will improvement over last year. Yes I am talking about Al Davis the man I worshiped my whole life downfall. he did not hold people accountable he did not allow his coaches to enforce their own agenda or set of rules. I blame Al for this.

  150. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “Yea, and players dont execute on their own. Theyre coached to that level”

    Yes and now we are in agreement. You need players that will buy into a scheme and are wiling to be held accountable. Good coaches will implement that and let go of guys who are not willing to be held accountable.

  151. Raidernationdave Says:

    I think Branch’s play was a result of the defense’s he was in and not his ability.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 12:59 pm

    Tyvon Branch only has 3 forced fumbles, 3 INT’s & 15 passes defensed in 4 years with Oakland …

    Michael Griffin (Titans) who also received the franchise tag this offseason and was just rewarded with a 5-year $35 million contract ** that Branch wants to match ** had 6 forced fumbles, 14 INT’s & 37 passes defensed in his last 4 years with Tennessee

    old man Adrian Wilson had 4 forced fumbles, 10 INT’s & 41 passes defensed in his last 4 years with Arizona Cards

    Source: http://www.profootballweekly.com

  152. Raidernationdave Says:

    How about Nmamdi?

    ++++++++++++++

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 1:37 pm

    Giordano caught 5 errant passes

    ***

    @DAV

    how many did Branch catch?

    nevermind.

  153. Silverandblack666 Says:

    I agree that our scheme was outdated and some guys (DeAngelo Hall) just cannot play in that kind of scheme.

    But you have to be committed to it as an athlete you have to find a way to make it work for you because they are paying you a ton of money!

    Look at Denver last year they ran a college offense and won with it. Talk about outdated scheme but the players bought into it and they own the division and even a playoff game with their outdated college running game scheme.

  154. Silverandblack666 Says:

    ” they won the division and even a playoff game with their outdated college running game scheme.”

    bad grammer

  155. RaiderRockstar Says:

    check out these instincts by Tyvon Branch!!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=henR7xoZHgk

    CJ37 breaks up the pass from Tony Romo. Branch & Scott crash into eachother. then fan favorite Sam Williams tries to make the diving interception, LOL

    blame that on Al Davis, right?

  156. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Denver ran that 1950’s college option last year and won with it.

    The players bought into it.

    It worked for a little while probably would not work again if they did it next year but this is what I am talking about.

  157. Silverandblack666 Says:

    DennisAllensVisor

    we can have a friendly debate and not call each other names you folks see how that was done?

    We are cool man you had a valid point!

  158. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
    DennisAllensVisor

    we can have a friendly debate and not call each other names you folks see how that was done?

    We are cool man you had a valid point!

    —-

    Exactly. As do you.

    I think were both on the right track with it.

  159. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Al Davis was a man who loved football more than most and gave his all down to his last breath to the success of this franchise.

    He is a Hall of Fame inductee and has won 3 Super Bowls as an owner.

    He was by no means perfect and his last 20 years he struggled to bring us back to greatness and I am sure that it hurt him more than any of us.

    Yes he was a meddling owner and yes he hung on too long but he cared deeply for this franchise and all he ever wanted was to return to greatness.

    Whats wrong with that?

  160. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “I think were both on the right track with it.”

    It might have been one of things where we were both saying the same thing but differently and in the end we both have similar goals…..seeing this team win the division!

  161. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
    “I think were both on the right track with it.”

    It might have been one of things where we were both saying the same thing but differently and in the end we both have similar goals…..seeing this team win the division!

    —-

    Exactly man.

  162. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    RIP Al Davis.

    Regardless of scheme, winning will keep his memory alive.

    Let get it going Reggie.

  163. theghostronin79 Says:

    Jones would kill Silva.

    Jones walks around at as small HW bro, Silva couldnt handle him.

    =============================
    Jones is a flat out Beast of a creation. I see a long reign for that man. Like I said, Silva would have nothing to gain by fighting him.

  164. theghostronin79 Says:

    Plus, I’m not expecting our boys to Shock the WORLD this year. But I’ve said before, the road to greatness begins in 2012. This is thier foundation year. No Kool-Aid B.S.

    They’re legit, they got the management, they got the vision, and eventually they’ll get the all the right players. I still think they’ll make an unexpected splash this year and turn some heads. But they will go, up, and up, and up after this year.

  165. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    theghostronin79 Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
    Jones would kill Silva.

    Jones walks around at as small HW bro, Silva couldnt handle him.

    =============================
    Jones is a flat out Beast of a creation. I see a long reign for that man. Like I said, Silva would have nothing to gain by fighting him.

    —-

    Ya, I cant stand Jones either. Sell out.

    Only way I see him losing is in the HW division to JDS

  166. Marks hair Says:

    I havent seen anybody run the lombardi sweep 30 times a game in a while.. Out of date maybe?? Just like AL..

  167. Marks hair Says:

    Devers option is kinda new for the nfl.. Nobody had practiced against it as a pro. It will die out once a star qb breaks a collarbone..

  168. theghostronin79 Says:

    Only way I see him losing is in the HW division to JDS

    ===============================

    LOL……JDS….That guy is a murderer. He should be locked up. I thought Cain was gonna give him a good scrap. NOPE…Dos Santos B-Slapped Valasquez. My mouth was hangin open.

  169. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    theghostronin79 Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
    Only way I see him losing is in the HW division to JDS

    ===============================

    LOL……JDS….That guy is a murderer. He should be locked up. I thought Cain was gonna give him a good scrap. NOPE…Dos Santos B-Slapped Valasquez. My mouth was hangin open.

    —-

    Yep. His hands are deadly.

  170. Raidernationdave Says:

    Tipped balls have nothing to do with scheme or situational play. A tipped ball is just that, a tipped ball.

    This video speaks to nothing more than what can happen with a tipped ball.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 2:14 pm

    check out these instincts by Tyvon Branch!!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=henR7xoZHgk

    CJ37 breaks up the pass from Tony Romo. Branch & Scott crash into eachother. then fan favorite Sam Williams tries to make the diving interception, LOL

    blame that on Al Davis, right?

  171. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “Devers option is kinda new for the nfl.. Nobody had practiced against it as a pro. It will die out once a star qb breaks a collarbone..”

    But it worked didn’t it?

    They took a 1950’s college option scheme and won a division with it because the players bought into it.

    You are correct that it wont work for long eventually teams will get wise but I made my point and I have moved on.

  172. lefty12 Says:

    Davis loved the team and did everything he could to bring it back to glory but his problem was he couldn’t let go.His coaches weren’t given the freedom to properly do their jobs.Some players took advantage of the fact he valued them over the coaches,proving even though they were adults they needed someone to kick them in the a$$ when it was required and that was something Davis didn’t like.In essence he let the inmates run the asylum.

  173. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Have you ever seen Wladimir Klitschko fight?

    I have not which is why I am asking….

  174. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “Davis loved the team and did everything he could to bring it back to glory but his problem was he couldn’t let go.His coaches weren’t given the freedom to properly do their jobs.Some players took advantage of the fact he valued them over the coaches,proving even though they were adults they needed someone to kick them in the a$$ when it was required and that was something Davis didn’t like.In essence he let the inmates run the asylum.”

    This is a great post and the reason why accountability will the buzz word next year.

  175. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
    Have you ever seen Wladimir Klitschko fight?

    I have not which is why I am asking….

    —-

    Cant say I have, boxing really lost me for the most part a long time ago.

  176. theghostronin79 Says:

    This WILL be a different conversation after the season. Either we’ll be saying that the “Antique” scheme was the problem cause we’re Badass now,

    Or that Maybe it was the players after all….Either way, THIS question WILL be answered in a few months.

  177. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “Cant say I have, boxing really lost me for the most part a long time ago.”

    Yeah me too and I wonder if MMA has killed boxing or lack of talent or both.

  178. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
    “Cant say I have, boxing really lost me for the most part a long time ago.”

    Yeah me too and I wonder if MMA has killed boxing or lack of talent or both.

    —-

    Good mix of both.

    Although MMA, well UFC has started to fudge things up too.

  179. purvisman Says:

    we can have a friendly debate and not call each other names you folks see how that was done?/////////////////////////////////////////////////////Amateurs and newcomers. You’ll never attain semi-pro status with that kind of civil attitude.

  180. TxRaider210 Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
    “Cant say I have, boxing really lost me for the most part a long time ago.”

    Yeah me too and I wonder if MMA has killed boxing or lack of talent or both.
    ————————-
    Probably that and people see that some fights area rigged…the last Manny fight..

  181. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Steelers release Troy Smith

    ***

    bye Matt Leinart!

  182. Just Fire Baby Says:

    You can call it scheme all you want, but when I watch a guy run right past Branch or Huff for a TD, how can anyone blame anyone but them?

    Defensive scheme will help the pass-rush and run defense, but covering a man is covering a man. Making a play on the ball is making a play on the ball.

  183. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “You’ll never attain semi-pro status with that kind of civil attitude.”

    Wanting to attain semi-pro status is that kind of like having lowered expectations like striving to be an assistant manager?

  184. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “Steelers release Troy Smith

    ***

    bye Matt Leinart!”

    Where is Mystic1 this is one of his favorite players.

  185. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Denver actually ran the option less than 20% of the plays last year.

    That was a run-first, play-action offense, from the Shotgun formation. Not a whole lot different than the I formation, only it allowed for another blocker (the RB) on the Tebow carries.

    I believe it will continue to be effective at times, until he isn’t as athletic.

    People were like “just stack the box with 8″. Well when your QB is a designed runner, that allows 8 people to block (O-Line, TE, RB, FB) so you actually had to have 9 in the box to have the same effect, which left single-coverage on both WR’s.

    If Tebow were half as effective throwing the ball as running it, I think he could be an NFL MVP in that type of offense.

  186. TxRaider210 Says:

    Anyone think Reggie brings Smith in over Leinart? My gut tells me he won’t…

  187. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Where is Mystic1 this is one of his favorite players.

    *************************

    Ol’ Misty was a little too quick to claim victory sometimes.

    I have the thread saved where he tells us that the upcoming Raiders-Steelers game and I think 49ers-Bucs game, was going to be the best QB’ing the Bay Area had seen in awhile.

    Well Soup got benched at halftime with a 40 QB rating, and Troy Smith didn’t score a point, lol.

  188. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
    Denver actually ran the option less than 20% of the plays last year.

    That was a run-first, play-action offense, from the Shotgun formation. Not a whole lot different than the I formation, only it allowed for another blocker (the RB) on the Tebow carries.

    I believe it will continue to be effective at times, until he isn’t as athletic.

    People were like “just stack the box with 8″. Well when your QB is a designed runner, that allows 8 people to block (O-Line, TE, RB, FB) so you actually had to have 9 in the box to have the same effect, which left single-coverage on both WR’s.

    If Tebow were half as effective throwing the ball as running it, I think he could be an NFL MVP in that type of offense.

    —-

    Solid post.

    If Tebow had better accuracy/touch/mechanics he would be deadly, yes.

  189. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Bad news Troy Smith fans.

    He is worse than Leinart.

  190. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    TxRaider210 Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
    Anyone think Reggie brings Smith in over Leinart? My gut tells me he won’t…

    —-

    My paycheck, house, car, everything tells me he wont.

  191. Just Fire Baby Says:

    A lot of that stuff you saw with Tebow, was just nonsense after the play, like Favre and Brady faking throwing passes after they handed it off, only Tebow faked running it (Vick does it a lot too).

    But when you get down to it, it was just a designed run to the RB, no different than much everything else.

  192. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Leinart is here because he knows the offense and ran it in Texas.

  193. Raidernationdave Says:

    I’d bet your paycheck, house, car, everything too! Troy Smith won’t be a Raider.

    Ohio Sate Sucks!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zJOF7MT2o4

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 3:10 pm

    TxRaider210 Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
    Anyone think Reggie brings Smith in over Leinart? My gut tells me he won’t…

    —-

    My paycheck, house, car, everything tells me he wont.

  194. Raidernationdave Says:

    *State

  195. TxRaider210 Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 3:10 pm
    TxRaider210 Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
    Anyone think Reggie brings Smith in over Leinart? My gut tells me he won’t…

    —-

    My paycheck, house, car, everything tells me he wont.
    —————-
    Yeah no kidding..he’s been with so many teams, maybe he can’t get playbooks down.

  196. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I know as much about MMA as I do futbol, but when I read Jones’ interviews, he seems like he is on a much different level then the rest of the fighters mentally.

    Studies scheme’s, and opponent’s breathing patterns, and is all Zen-ish.

  197. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    TxRaider210 Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 3:10 pm
    TxRaider210 Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
    Anyone think Reggie brings Smith in over Leinart? My gut tells me he won’t…

    —-

    My paycheck, house, car, everything tells me he wont.
    —————-
    Yeah no kidding..he’s been with so many teams, maybe he can’t get playbooks down.

    —-

    Ya, he was backing up Masoli in the arena league.

    Not a good sign.

  198. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
    I know as much about MMA as I do futbol, but when I read Jones’ interviews, he seems like he is on a much different level then the rest of the fighters mentally.

    Studies scheme’s, and opponent’s breathing patterns, and is all Zen-ish.

    —-

    And being freakishly athletic, bigger, faster than everyone else helps too. lol..

    I dont think he’s even really had to try hard yet. Scary.

  199. TxRaider210 Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
    I know as much about MMA as I do futbol, but when I read Jones’ interviews, he seems like he is on a much different level then the rest of the fighters mentally.

    Studies scheme’s, and opponent’s breathing patterns, and is all Zen-ish.
    ——————————–
    Yep, and with his size and reach it would suck to fight a Muay Thai guy that good.

  200. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    I think Leinart is the ideal backup.

    Has a decent level of ability. Knows the playbook.

    Could buy you a few weeks in case of emergency.

  201. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Jon Jones is the anti BJ Penn.

    All the talent WITH drive, hard work, physical attributes etc..

  202. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Another key to being a quality backup, is understanding just that, you are the backup.

    I think Troy Smith struggles with this, and part of the reason we had to tell The Bruce to leave as well.

  203. TxRaider210 Says:

    I always tell friends that Muay Thai is the best thing a lanky person can use. How bout Jones ability to throw elbow punches?lol

  204. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
    Another key to being a quality backup, is understanding just that, you are the backup.

    I think Troy Smith struggles with this, and part of the reason we had to tell The Bruce to leave as well.

    —-

    Bruce Giordano?? :)

  205. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    TxRaider210 Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
    I always tell friends that Muay Thai is the best thing a lanky person can use. How bout Jones ability to throw elbow punches?lol

    —-

    Yeah those elbows are like crowbars.

  206. TxRaider210 Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 3:25 pm
    TxRaider210 Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
    I always tell friends that Muay Thai is the best thing a lanky person can use. How bout Jones ability to throw elbow punches?lol

    —-

    Yeah those elbows are like crowbars.
    —–
    Sure are, and if he gets the clench here come some nasty knees, the baseball bats.lol

  207. Raidernationdave Says:

    I wasn’t comfortable at first with the Leinart move but it really does make sense. It’s only one year and the dude has gotten progressively better especially after taking the NFL a little more seriously.

  208. TxRaider210 Says:

    You’re right Dave. I like to have guys that still have room to improve, and haven’t played their best ball.imo

  209. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Leinart sucks, but he is ideal for this situation in that he can teach the offense to both the starter and the future backup, and is pretty comfy earning a paycheck and not having to work on the weekends.

    If Palmer gets hurt, we are screwed either way.

  210. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Raidernationdave Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 3:30 pm
    I wasn’t comfortable at first with the Leinart move but it really does make sense. It’s only one year and the dude has gotten progressively better especially after taking the NFL a little more seriously.

    —-

    I think he’s comfortable.

    Back in Cali. No pressure.

  211. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 3:34 pm
    Leinart sucks, but he is ideal for this situation in that he can teach the offense to both the starter and the future backup, and is pretty comfy earning a paycheck and not having to work on the weekends.

    If Palmer gets hurt, we are screwed either way.

    —-

    Yea, well there arent too many teams who wouldnt be screwed if the QB went down for an extended time.

  212. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    As long as Matt can turn around and hand it to a healthy DMC, and convert a 3rd & 5ish on occasion we should be able to survive a few.

  213. TxRaider210 Says:

    If DMac stays healthy we’re good imo, but if Palmer and him go down watch out.

  214. TxRaider210 Says:

    Beat me to it lol

  215. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Well guys, its quittin time.

    Raider on & God Bless.

    OUT.

  216. TxRaider210 Says:

    Peace out.

  217. Raidernationdave Says:

    If DMAC stays healthy……

    That one mighty big fricken “if” ain’t it!?

  218. Raidernationdave Says:

    Quittin’ time’s at 9…..bud’s to follow!

  219. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Yea, well there arent too many teams who wouldnt be screwed if the QB went down for an extended time.

    ***********************

    True, but some situations are worse than others.

    BTW, in Leinart’s last 8 games he played in, he has managed to have 3 season-ending injuries, lol.

    Chances of him keeping the peace for a month are slim to none.

  220. TxRaider210 Says:

    Which QB has the most to prove this year? Palmer, Romo, Peyton, Rivers, Ryan, Schaub..etc

  221. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I say Matty Ice, only because he has been pushed into an upper echelon that he can’t hold onto if he is going to be the Alex Rodriquez of QB’s.

  222. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Peyton doesn’t need to prove anything. He can get hurt in camp, call it quits and ride off into the sunset as a first-ballot HOFer.

    Rivers and Romo maybe, only because they are also considered tier 2 guys, but I think they have earned it, even without winning a bowl.

    Matt Schaub….that ship sailed. They didn’t seem all that more worse with a 6th round rookie at the helm.

  223. TxRaider210 Says:

    Yeah I’d agree with that, but think Peyton has to show he’s worth the money at least to satisfy the fans. I work with lots of Cowboys fans and their about through with Romo.lol

  224. TxRaider210 Says:

    they’re*

  225. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I don’t think Palmer has to “prove” anything, mostly because most casual fans and media-ites have basically given up on him.

    Anything close to Pro Bowl level play and a playoff berth will come out of leftfield to the majority of the country and be house money in a sense.

  226. TxRaider210 Says:

    Very true most have counted Palmer out, except the people who know he can play. I also think Ryan is a victim of horrible play calling in the playoffs, almost every time.lol

  227. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I hate Realtors. This client is taking a distribution for a down payment it seems, and this snotty azzed Realtor lady calls me at 4:55, wanting me to fax in all these documents to her by 5pm.

    Guess what, not happening. How’s 5:15 grab you?

  228. Just Fire Baby Says:

    As they say, a lack of planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part.

    I’m having an important convo with TxRaider210 right now, lol.

  229. KoolKell Says:

    My cousins in Texas, huge Cowboy fans, think Jerry Jones needs to hire a GM, sound familiar? Lol.

    Not big fans of Romo either.

  230. TxRaider210 Says:

    LMAO “Yes, please tell your client they get the paperwork tomorrow, or the Nation will hi jack her favorite blog.”

  231. TxRaider210 Says:

    KK
    I hear the same on the daily, they hate Jerry and his $75 parking.

  232. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Lots of Cowboys fans out here, but the overall football IQ is a tad lower around these parts, so I take it all with a grain of salt.

    Romo is a good QB, just not great. Until you can get a great QB, that’s what you got.

  233. TxRaider210 Says:

    Yep, I’ve always told them he doesn’t have the team enough to win a SB, could be wrong, but I think his better days are behind him.

  234. Just Fire Baby Says:

    but I think his better days are behind him.

    *********************

    Absolutely, he was at his best sometimes ab-libing and running around.

    Not doing that anymore unless he wants to drink out of a sippycup in a few years.

  235. TxRaider210 Says:

    What’s going to be great this year, opposing offenses really won’t know what to expect from DA and Tarver. I think they surprise people and send the house.

  236. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Jamal Anderson busted again.

    My ex-stripper roommate in Vegas shacked up with him, got him some snifty, went to the hotel room while his wife was out gambling, and than laughed at him and took his cash after his dirty bird had some issues.

    Ahhh…..Vegas stories. Love to tell them.

  237. Just Fire Baby Says:

    What’s going to be great this year, opposing offenses really won’t know what to expect from DA and Tarver. I think they surprise people and send the house.

    ***********************

    We will definitely morph into an exotic blitz type of team, be it this year or the years ahead.

  238. Raider O Says:

    LOL Chico.

  239. TxRaider210 Says:

    Haha funny Vegas news! Yeah I just feel relieved that we shouldn’t have to worry about coaching and management decisions; I trust RM.

  240. TxRaider210 Says:

    Jamal must be drankin that lean with Jawalrus and made his peter lean and not salute!

  241. DutchRaider77 Says:

    Vittorio Tafur
    ‏@VittorioTafur
    “@oakland510: when and if are they gonna sign Benson?” >> solid chance. Next couple of weeks

  242. Plunketthead Says:

    Whos watching the CWS?

    Its the greatest gameever but I hate that dam ping instead of a crack

  243. Plunketthead Says:

    I am a homer so I want the wildcats to win but its hard to root against a great mascot like the Gamecock

  244. Raidernationdave Says:

    @#236

    LMFAO!

    “…after his dirty bird had some issues…”

    Issues with rising and falling I assume and not issues of “drainage and drip-page”.

  245. Oakland Raiders Links That You’ll Want To See June 25, 2012 | Raiders Central | Oakland Raiders Blog Says:

    [...] Live chat: Inside the Oakland Raiders, Tuesday, noon Steve Corkran will answer your Raiders questions Tuesday at noon during a live chat…. [...]

  246. Plunketthead Says:

    Did you notice the last blog was by Becker?
    Why does management do that to our blog pimps?

  247. toolnutz Says:

    This site says the Raiders may leave Oakland for LA or Santa Clara in 2013.

    http://247wallst.com/2012/06/21/247-wall-st-10-brands-that-will-disappear-in-2013/2/

  248. Just Fire Baby Says:

    LOL at B telling me the Dodgers play good defense.

    They are ranked 27th in fielding %, have noodle arms everywhere, and Gordon is a complete hack at SS.

    Los Gigantes will have the division lead by the All-Star break, and never relinquish it all of the 2nd half.

  249. KoolKell Says:

    My cousin in Tucson died last week, diehard Raider Fan. After the funeral a lady presented the family with a silver & black Raider cake. It was perfect, the shield was perfect. Nice.

  250. KoolKell Says:

    Vegas, have you been to AT&T park?

  251. Sullivan44 Says:

    My condolences, Kell.

  252. Sullivan44 Says:

    defense = football, basketball, hockey

    fielding = baseball

    I hate the fact that even sportscaster now use the term defense in baseball. And it’s “hitting”. Not “offense”. Giants have good offense? Who’s leading off, Joe Montana?

  253. KoolKell Says:

    It’s nice catching the Ferry from Alameda to AT&T park, even though I’m not a Giants fan.

  254. Sullivan44 Says:

    24/7 wall street article doesn’t say jack. The only quote he has is Mark saying LA is possible, and that they need a stadium. All speculation.

  255. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I went to 3Comblestick more, but yeah maybe 5-6 times.

    Took my dad on a Saturday before Fathers day to see A’s-Giants, and sat 3 rows up behind the dugout and roasted in the sun.

  256. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Look at you two flirting on the blog. You would make a perfect couple Sully44 and KK riding off in the sunset, a two troll bromance built on hate for Al Davis and lying about people on the Blog.

    Sully44 could finally get the street cred he so desperately desires from black guys in Oakland for dating KK even if he is older than dirt.

    KK can have someone to changes his diapers makes sure he takes his Metamucil everyday and give him sponge baths. You two are perfect for each other.

  257. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I had a Raider shield wedding cake (the grooms cake).

    Got the pics on FB.

  258. Silverandblack666 Says:

    JFB

    You a A’s or Giants fan?

  259. Just Fire Baby Says:

    So is Stockton going to go officially bankrupt tonight?

    Will be big news even down on Wall Street in the morning if so.

  260. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Giants

    My older brother and I decided to roll with the Giants at a young age and buck the family trend.

    National league baseball is sooooo much more enjoyable to be a fan of.

  261. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “Will be big news even down on Wall Street in the morning if so.”

    The European banks they are moving the market right now everyone is waiting to see if there is a QE3 from Bernake.

  262. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Bernake already said he isn’t doing QE3, or that it isn’t “likely”.

  263. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Anyways, I got a 4:30 wakeup call, so hasta manana

  264. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “Bernake already said he isn’t doing QE3, or that it isn’t “likely”.”

    Yeah I know but as soon as things in Europe start looking shaky everyone starts talking about it.

  265. DKnight007 Says:

    MKG slipping to W’s at #7 is not going to happen. Matter of fact MKG should be picked before T-Rob IMO.

    MKG is 2nd best player in this draft!

  266. DKnight007 Says:

    Raiders running an archaic D scheme with a crappy DC, was about the 80% of the problem last year on defense.

  267. Gomer Says:

    Arizona Wildcats win College World Series. That is good for Pac12 baseball. Hell yeah.

  268. jesusraiderjim Says:

    Well I aint heard from Beech all night so hope the PMPP is spending some greeenbacks at Olive Garden to keep them from going broke. revenue was down 1.8% due to all the Beech Dogs comps. Holla!!

  269. Raidernationdave Says:

    Whut up PMPP Beyotches!!!!

    Just like what happens to Kooky Kell with wife more often than not, I struck out today in the great Korean Iron Swing Fest today! Bummer.

    Givin’ up a day to ‘Zero the hero’ pisses me off especially since I’ve got two days off. Of course the memory of my 4 car weekend will linger longer than the scratch I made. Holla!

  270. Raidernationdave Says:

    5 bong tokes and the Hanger 24 Pale Ale’s are hittin’ the spot. Whut up to the PMPP crew and the interested bystanders and onlookers!

  271. Raidernationdave Says:

    I don’t know what you dude’s like but some of the best things in life are red.

    http://ali-williams.webs.com/photos/undefined/Ali-5777.jpg

    Holla!

  272. Raidernationdave Says:

    Spoken like a true scholar!

    Put players in consistently bad situations. Can be great in the wrong D.

    +++++++++++++++

    DKnight007 Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 9:22 pm

    Raiders running an archaic D scheme with a crappy DC, was about the 80% of the problem last year on defense.

  273. Raidernationdave Says:

    *can’t

  274. Plunketthead Says:

    Today is “Return Of The Blog Pimps Day”
    Peve/Scary better have stayed active in the off season.. I expect them to report to Blog Camp in Mid season shape.

    We know that Scary reports to Blog Camp overweight and stressed out but he shakes it off in a hurry.
    On the other hand we have never seen Peve go through a forced vacation. How will he react is the big question.

    No Knuckleheads

  275. Plunketthead Says:

    Good morning, semi pros and knuckleheads

  276. hwnrdr Says:

    Good Morning Nation!!!

  277. TxRaider210 Says:

    Someone say semi-pro? Oh, good morning Nation.

  278. Plunketthead Says:

    Ten pounds lighter, a year older and invigorated about a new coaching staff, Richard Seymour promises the 2012 Raiders are going to be more disciplined.

    Raider Nation has heard that refrain before. Meanwhile, the team has led the NFL in penalties in each of the past two seasons and has regularly finished among the most flagged teams since its 2002 Super Bowl season.

    “We’re definitely going to be disciplined, for sure,” the 32-year-old defensive tackle said Tuesday during the first day of a three-day minicamp. “We don’t want to lead the league in penalties or anything like that. But we definitely want to be aggressive.”

    It’s de rigueur for players under new coaching staffs to talk boldly of new directions and new levels of achievement. And Seymour is sure talking a good game.

    “I think our fans have a lot to be excited about,” he said. “We’re headed in the right direction. We’re trying to build a smart, tough, disciplined football team, and everyone’s preaching the same message. That’s come across very clear.”

    Although Seymour’s 29 tackles in 2011 were the second fewest of his 11-year pro career, he had six sacks – his third highest total – and was named to his seventh Pro Bowl.

    That selection was to be expected of a player who, at $15 million per season, is the highest-paid defensive player in the NFL.

    As Seymour is well aware, the Raiders’ defense hasn’t been a force in quite a while. Last year it was 29th in total defense, 31st against the pass and 27th against the run. The rushing defense has been atrocious for the past nine years, never better than 22nd.

    Part of the problem in 2011 was the loss of defensive end Matt Shaughnessy to a shoulder injury against the Jets in Week 3.

    “In terms of the run, I’d put Shaughnessy up there with anybody,” Seymour said. “He’s developing into a complete player. It was a big blow for us when he went down. It messed up our rotation a lot. With him back healthy this year, it’s going to be big for us.”

    Going into his fourth year in Oakland, Seymour had skipped the voluntary organized team activities, so Tuesday was the first time new head coach Dennis Allen had seen him in action, and vice versa.

    Having a head coach with a defensive background is “obviously a good thing,” Seymour said, but he added with a smile, “If you mess up, they know what you did wrong as well.”

    In the offseason, Seymour lost a former Patriots teammate and a dear friend in Junior Seau. “He was one of the best men I knew,” he said. “I think everyone knows what he’s done on the field. But off the field, he was a giving guy, one of the best guys you could be around, one of the best teammates I’ve ever had.”

    Briefly: The Raiders signed tight end Tory Humphrey, who has played in 31 career games with nine starts with the Saints and Packers in five seasons over seven years. … Offensive lineman Stefen Wisniewski (shoulder), safety Mike Mitchell (knee) and fullback Manase Tonga (knee) are all out until training camp starts in late July, although Allen said Tonga is “further along” than the others. … Receiver Denarius Moore hobbled off with a pulled hamstring. There was no immediate word on how long he’ll be out.

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    Raiders general manager Reggie McKenzie liked the tempo of the team’s three-day minicamp, which concluded Thursday and signaled the end of the team’s organized offseason workouts.

    “I knew they were going to throw in a lot on both sides of the ball,” McKenzie said. “But it was good to see things going right a whole lot more than wrong, as far as coaches yelling and screaming, running a play over and over again. You didn’t hear a lot of that.”

    The Raiders installed 90 percent of the new offense during the offseason workouts, and new offensive coordinator Greg Knapp said there is a good reason.

    “There has to be a sense of urgency now,” Knapp said. “When the new (collective bargaining agreement) got done, with less practice time, less practices, yet the expectations are the same, to win.

    “The players need to feel in May and June that we’ve got to learn this now, we can’t wait until training camp. I hope they felt my urgency in my voice, and the way I coached on the field.”

    The next time the players will hear Knapp and coach Dennis Allen’s voices is July 29, when camp opens in Napa.

    No big backs: McKenzie admits that he hasn’t found a replacement for Michael Bush, the 6-foot-1, 245-pound back who handled short-distance duties and filled in for the injured Darren McFadden last year.

    “We don’t have that big back, but we’ve got a couple of backs that are playing fullback for us that can be that guy,” McKenzie said. “We feel good about the versatility of Marcel (Reece), and all our fullbacks have the ability to run it. (Owen) Schmitt can run it, short yardage. We got some guys that can, I’m kind of anxious to see them in preseason.”

    Comfort with McClain: McKenzie echoed Allen’s earlier comments and said he is “comfortable” with the Rolando McClain situation. “Since we’ve been here, he’s been great,” McKenzie said. “I’m not going to hold anything over his head about what he’s done in the past.”

    McClain was sentenced to 180 days in jail after being found guilty of third-degree assault, menacing, discharging a handgun in city limits and reckless endangerment in Alabama. He is appealing the verdict

  280. Plunketthead Says:

    If anyone has time to listen to the entire interview, let us know if theres something yummy in there.

    This week’s KNBR Conversation is an edited excerpt from an interview of former Raiders coach John Madden by Tom Tolbert on Wednesday:

    Tolbert: What do you think (Raiders quarterback) Carson Palmer has left in the tank?

    Madden: I think they have to take a little pressure off him. If he has (running back Darren) McFadden for the whole year, obviously that’s gonna help him. I just felt, Palmer came in late, didn’t have a training camp – well, no one had a training camp, but he didn’t even have preseason – and came in and had to do it. And then when McFadden got hurt, there was too much on his shoulders. I just felt that you have to back him off a little, and just let him have some running game, a better defense, better special teams, just improve all your other areas, and I think that will really help Carson Palmer.

    Tolbert: McFadden’s the key, isn’t he?

    Madden: Well, yeah he is. You hate to say it, but he has to stay healthy. You can say that about anyone, but if he doesn’t stay healthy, they still have to have a good running game. You have to be able to do that. Then you can play-action pass, and then stay out of really long yardage, and stop the stupid penalties.

    Tolbert: I think the 49ers are going to be better this year, but the schedule is gonna be tougher. How do they maneuver those obstacles?

    Madden: Well I think (49ers head coach) Jim Harbaugh, last year, did one of the greatest coaching jobs not only of the year, but in the history of the NFL. To do that with a new coaching staff, no OTAs, no minicamps – just had to go into training camp and start doing that, and get all that stuff installed. I thought he did a great job. … I think they’re going to be a good team with Jim Harbaugh for a long time, but I think they’ll have a tough time matching the record they had last year.

    The KNBR Conversation is a weekly interview culled from the archives of KNBR 680/1050 AM.

  281. guest123 Says:

    Hey all!

  282. Plunketthead Says:

    This is my lead pipe Plunkdiction
    Richard Seymour will make the pro bowl this year

  283. TxRaider210 Says:

    I’d have to agree Plunk, also think Branch will make the PB.

  284. JR Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    June 25th, 2012 at 8:27 pm

    24/7 wall street article doesn’t say jack. The only quote he has is Mark saying LA is possible, and that they need a stadium. All speculation.
    ——————————–
    Hi Sean/Shaun,

    I didn’t know that you were a Raiders fan. I thought you liked the Giants/Jets.

    Please keep the political debates and bickering to a minimum if you can, and cut down on the vulgarities.

    Sincerely,

    Your Mother’s Basement

  285. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Leinart sucks, but he is ideal for this situation in that he can teach the offense to both the starter and the future backup, and is pretty comfy earning a paycheck and not having to work on the weekends.

    ***

    JFB = money!

  286. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I had a Raider shield wedding cake (the grooms cake).

    ***

    me too, Vegas!

    my Podunk wife and her KC fan family didn’t even ask me, they just knew it was what I would have wanted, LOL

    one of these days when I kick the bucket, I’ll probably have a Raiders casket too

  287. TxRaider210 Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 6:21 am
    I had a Raider shield wedding cake (the grooms cake).

    ***

    me too, Vegas!

    my Podunk wife and her KC fan family didn’t even ask me, they just knew it was what I would have wanted, LOL

    one of these days when I kick the bucket, I’ll probably have a Raiders casket too

    —————————
    RR, have them bury you under the 50 yard line!lol

  288. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Richard Seymour at $15 million per season, is the highest-paid defensive player in the NFL.

    the Raiders’ defense hasn’t been a force in quite a while. Last year it was 29th in total defense, 31st against the pass and 27th against the run. The rushing defense has been atrocious for the past nine years, never better than 22nd.

    ***

    @Plunk

    come on bro, not the way I wanted to start my Tuesday… with piss in my coffee!

  289. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    JUST BURY ME NEXT TO AL..

  290. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    mornin raider nation

  291. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    btw why the f did we keep seymour?

  292. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    plunk you got a link to that mcfadden convo

  293. RaiderRockstar Says:

    This week’s KNBR Conversation is an edited excerpt from an interview of former Raiders coach John Madden by Tom Tolbert on Wednesday:

    Tolbert: What do you think (Raiders quarterback) Carson Palmer has left in the tank?

    Madden: I think they have to take a little pressure off him. If he has (running back Darren) McFadden for the whole year, obviously that’s gonna help him. I just felt, Palmer came in late, didn’t have a training camp – well, no one had a training camp, but he didn’t even have preseason – and came in and had to do it. And then when McFadden got hurt, there was too much on his shoulders. I just felt that you have to back him off a little, and just let him have some running game, a better defense, better special teams, just improve all your other areas, and I think that will really help Carson Palmer.

    Tolbert: McFadden’s the key, isn’t he?

    Madden: Well, yeah he is. You hate to say it, but he has to stay healthy. You can say that about anyone, but if he doesn’t stay healthy, they still have to have a good running game. You have to be able to do that. Then you can play-action pass, and then stay out of really long yardage, and stop the stupid penalties.

    ***

    I think Madden is right when he puts Palmer’s success dependent upon the running game. I realize that McFadden is our best runner, but I don’t see any reason to think Palmer will sink if DMAC gets hurt. another RB or perhaps a committee approach has to step up and deliver. Palmer also has a terrible RT and no-named TE’s. A bunch of young oft-injured unproven WR’s. A brand new offense & coaching staff.

    If McFadden is only good for 8 games, I say we keep him on the shelf until December!

  294. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    sign c benson now

  295. RaiderRockstar Says:

    why the f did we keep seymour?

    ***

    Pay $15 mil to keep him or $7.5 mil to have him walk the plank. tough call.

    I don’t think we would have seen a huge dropoff from Seymour to Desmond Bryant.

  296. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Quote for Today…

    “Ability is what you’re capable of doing. Motivation determines what you do. Attitude determines how well you do it.” ― Lou Holtz

  297. TxRaider210 Says:

    I read something on Pro sports daily about the Raiders not having the cap space to add Benson..idk how true that is..

  298. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    what if they got a branch deal done that should free up enough i cant imagine him signing for all that much

  299. Plunketthead Says:

    Thats not piss, Its lemon flavored kool aid

  300. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    @RR i think seymour has been bringing us down we’ve all worked with that miserable old goat that no one wants to be around i can see seymour being that guy

  301. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    u sure?

  302. MistaBrown Says:

    I just sprayed coffee allover my laptop.

    Good one Plunk!
    _______

    Plunketthead Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 5:58 am

    This is my lead pipe Plunkdiction
    Richard Seymour will make the pro bowl this year

  303. Plunketthead Says:

    http://www.sfgate.com/raiders/

  304. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    mb lmao i did to.pro bowl is a sham seymour makes it and he was a bum last year

  305. MistaBrown Says:

    The NFL pro bowl is the most insignificant meaningless game in all of sports.

  306. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    yea it is pretty lame they just said recently they WILL have one I was hoping theyd stop it for a year or two to make players want to comepete in it

  307. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    off topic can you tell me why tyvon branch is sooooooo good aside from a pick in the end zone i cant remember him making plays why is this guy so heralded as such a good ball player

  308. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    o and the lucky fumble recovery that put us over sd.p.rivers what a biooootch

  309. theghostronin79 Says:

    @RR i think seymour has been bringing us down we’ve all worked with that miserable old goat that no one wants to be around i can see seymour being that guy

    ===============================

    Not sure I agree with all that. I mean he is old yes, approaching “Goat” status, but he is NOT Sapp, NOT Moss, NOT a disgruntled guy who’s gonna sit there and bad mouth the coaches and get the locker room in revolt.

    The guy rode the bus to get the rookies two years ago, when the lockout was in affect, he personally funded a mini camp for the players who showed. He got their airfare, lodging, and fed them….He’s got 3 damn Rings. He’s been to the show and danced the big dance. I think he’s a fantastic mentor for our young D-Line guys. Sure he’s slower off the ball and can’t shed blocks as well but, he still draws double teams, and he has that big “C” patch on his jersey for a reason.
    I don’t think he’s bringing us down man. I really don’t.

  310. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    okay and for the ejections

  311. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    not what u wanna show rookies. he rode that but cuz nobody wanted to hear his stories about his hayday in ne

  312. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    trust me i live in n.e even when he was here he was waaayyy overrated

  313. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    just saying i’d perfer to see the youth movement toward a 3-4

  314. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    with mclain watchin from a full priced ticket in row 125

  315. Plunketthead Says:

    I liked it when they had the pros vrs college all stars at soldier field

  316. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    c.benson & d.mcfadden i like that better than last year the thought makes me wanna go play madden

  317. RaiderRockstar Says:

    what if they got a branch deal done that should free up enough i cant imagine him signing for all that much

    can you tell me why tyvon branch is sooooooo good aside from a pick in the end zone i cant remember him making plays why is this guy so heralded as such a good ball player

    o and the lucky fumble recovery that put us over sd.p.rivers what a biooootch

    ***

    @skinnnylegs

    that SD play, Huff stripped Rivers & CJ37 absolutely leveled the SD player who was about to recover it. Branch just scooped it up and ran for the score. If the first two players don’t do what they did – Branch is sitting around on that play picking his nose.

    I just watched a bunch of Youtube clips on Branch yesterday where he makes a big hit on a player AFTER the first down marker, or he’s running players down from behind. He makes a few plays at or near the line of scrimmage [more than McClain actually]. good blitz guy. He wants $7-8 million per season. I compared him to a few other safeties in the league yesterday and all the semi pro’s could muster up in response was “you can’t compare them to guys in an Al Davis defense!” Well, how are you gonna pay a player $35+ million based upon what he accomplished in that same defense? You’re right. Branch isn’t a playmaker. If you give him a fat contract based upon what he did in a “contract year” and then he reverts back to turd status we’re screwed. You’re paying for potential, not production. Nnamdi Asomugha failed when he got outside of the Al Davis defense. Who says Branch wont do the same?

  318. Plunketthead Says:

    The college kids were playing hard as they could, playing for a contract, maybe a big one is very motivating.

    And the pros may have been casual about it but when they got pucnched in the face by a kid, they got mad and started playing hard as well. Made for a great game.

  319. Marks hair Says:

    Tony Parker almost lost his eye.. Maybe dont hang out with wild thugs huh?

  320. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    RR glad you agree but im just @ a loss why everyone from hue jax to reg mckz saying how good this guy is I dont think he should get that huge contract and also wasnt that great of a year for a contract year agree?

  321. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    yea always around the ball but a day late and a dollar short

  322. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Did safeties Stuart Schweigert, Derrick Gibson & Gibril Wilson have amazing success after leaving the Al Davis defense?

    last I checked nobody wants free agents Lito Sheppard, CJ37, Boyd or Eugene either. I guess no other NFL teams feel as if they were just “stunted”

    KC obviously feels Stan Routt was pretty doggone good in Oakland’s defense. Same with Philly/Asomugha.

    so spare me all the crap about nobody being able to produce in Oakland’s defense and we can’t compare our players to anybody elses.

  323. Marks hair Says:

    We should have traded branch last yr. Maybe sombody really belives he’s a star..

  324. Plunketthead Says:

    Deangelo was a strange case. Very good before and after but lit up in Oakland. He may have gotten the hang of it if given more time.

    Al sure did some whacked out stuff trying to make a SB run

  325. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    yea we shoulda traded him now were gonna give hima contract we cant offload and not to mention hes a little guy and how many good footballers came from freaking uconn wtf div is that?div3 peeewee

  326. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    hall didnt wannna play there for the check

  327. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    hes a bum in was to

  328. Marks hair Says:

    Haha..i dont care about his school, he’s a proven guy. But he’s proven that he’s not a ballhawk or a dominant player the offense has to gameplan for.. 7-8 mil is way too much. He needs a fair deal.

  329. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I dont think he should get that huge contract and also wasnt that great of a year for a contract year agree?

    ***

    @skinnnylegs

    No, he doesn’t deserve that monster contract, but McKenzie put himself in this position by placing the franchise tag on him. In other words saying, “you’re a player we can’t live without and you’ll be one of the highest paid at your position”. Nobody’s agent accepts a reasonable prove your worth type of contract after being tagged. Reggie lost all his leverage. Should have let Tyvon test the waters in free agency. Make him a solid take it or leave it offer. If Reggie wants to match his highest offer & TB wants to stay in Oakland? fine.

    I do think his contract year was much better than his first 3 seasons. Chuck Bresnahan & Rod Woodson get all the credit for this imo. Branch was an absolute turd under DC John Marshall [and DB Coach Lionel Washington] who many feel was a better DC than Chuck. I think Tyvon Branch has potential and I think the entire defense will be better under Allen & Tarver. However, I don’t think anybody from the 2011 defense should break the bank. I think Branch might just play out this season on the tag. That would be the smart move for Reggie at this point. If he becomes a star, he’ll get paid like one. Right now? You don’t give an Eric Weddle contract to a player like Gibril Wilson 2.0.

    make him EARN it!

  330. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    ya hes proven hes not a playmaker.bring rod woodson back

  331. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    well said rr

  332. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    or how about this tb plays this year on the tag next year we draft or free agency to replace him if new deal cant get done

  333. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    gives you 1 year to see if he can be a start in allens d

  334. Marks hair Says:

    Well its too late to trade him now. You let him have another contract yr & see what he earns..

  335. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    i hate campaign ads

  336. RaiderRockstar Says:

    We should have traded branch last yr. Maybe sombody really belives he’s a star..

    i dont care about his school, he’s a proven guy. But he’s proven that he’s not a ballhawk or a dominant player the offense has to gameplan for.. 7-8 mil is way too much. He needs a fair deal

    yea we shoulda traded him now were gonna give hima contract we cant offload

    ***

    Branch signed his tag. We can trade him anytime we like!

    Any team that trades for him, would likely give him a long-term deal. Question is, what is he worth via trade?

    If we can get a 2nd & 5th for him, pull the trigger. That gives us our draft picks back from the Palmer & Curry trades.

    Mike Mitchell & Curtis Taylor can play SS this season. They could make as many plays as Branch did, if given the same opportunity!

  337. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    arizona what a joke.cop pulls you over

    “license,registration,and greencard please”

  338. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    I thought if your tagged you have to get two 1st rd picks

  339. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    not sure if i wanna see mm starting

  340. Marks hair Says:

    We cant go with our backups.. No way..

  341. RaiderRockstar Says:

    trade deadline is like mid-October, right?

    plenty of time to evaluate Branch … would be safer to trade him now though while everybody thinks he’s the cream of the crop!

    if he flops in this new defense, his trade value goes in the toilet and we get no draft picks for BigMac to use next draft

  342. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    who remembers the javon walker deal omg getting mad just thinking about that bum

  343. Marks hair Says:

    Branch is our most consistant defender and we have no replacment. We have to let him play & sign him after the season. Just not to a monster deal.

  344. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I thought if your tagged you have to get two 1st rd picks

    ***

    nope, Atlanta traded Matt Schaub to Houston for two 3rd rounders

    remember?

  345. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    hope sho-nasty stays healthy

  346. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    no i dont but thanks for the info

  347. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    perfect example watch shonasty play he makes you say WOW i dont see that with branch

  348. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    you guys gonna be in the chat later lets think of a great ?

  349. Marks hair Says:

    I hope nasty can hit the qb more often than before he got hurt..

  350. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    hows this ?

    do you think theres a chance branch plays all year on the tag and no deal gets done

  351. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    sho is more of a run stuffer which is great for a de in a 3-4 where the pass rush comes from the olb

  352. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    we need a clay matthews on our team

  353. Marks hair Says:

    350. He loves those.
    A chance? Yes.
    How could he answer wrong?

  354. Marks hair Says:

    Thats our problem. We have de’s fit for 3-4. Dt’s fit for a 4-3. Lbs fit for a 4-3 and a weak secondary that cant get ints..

  355. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    yea were all fd up with our personel but hey they all got speed lol glad those days are over.i see your point about my ? well help me out you gonna be on the chat later

  356. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    cant wait till the 1st p.i routt gives us ima be soooo happy

  357. MistaBrown Says:

    Trade R Seymour for a 3rd pick in 2022

  358. Marks hair Says:

    Na ill be at work. Ask him if/when we will get a player interview? I dont wanna wait till camp. Tell cork to call up a rook..

  359. Marks hair Says:

    Im out

  360. RaiderRockstar Says:

    some guys don’t care about winning. it’s all about money and individual awards

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/06/26/tomlinson-would-take-the-hall-of-fame-over-a-super-bowl-ring/

    Lady Tomlinson = qu33r

  361. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    he always says camp time but i will tell these rooks gotta pay there dues u know

  362. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    later dude

  363. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    I read that to RR

  364. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “Lady Tomlinson = qu33r”

    I hope that little turd is not inducted into the HOF!

  365. guest123 Says:

    First ballot HOFer for sure.

    But he’s a punk to value insignificant trinkets like HOF plaques as consolation of a career full of failure. He doesn’t have the luxury of distancing himself from his scrub teammates and playoff meltdowns. Winning super bowls is the only reason to play this game. If you aren’t putting that as the #1 priority, you’re nothing but a shill hore. Hope LT trips on the steps going to get his plaque and falls flat on his azz.

  366. hwnrdr Says:

    I was laughing when LT lost his cool when the Pats were dancing on the bolt! LOL…

  367. The Big Banana Says:

    Topic this morning is trading Branch? I’m ok with that. Yes, Big Mac lost his leverage with the tag but he could maybe fool another team into thinking they’re getting more that they really are in a trade.

  368. The Big Banana Says:

    LT is a doodoo butt chump.

  369. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    In March 2007, the Houston Texans acquired Schaub from the Falcons for second round picks in 2007 and 2008. As part of the deal, the teams also swapped first round picks in 2007, exchanging the Falcons’ 10th pick with the Texans’ 8th pick

  370. The Big Banana Says:

    Rivers’ and Gates’ comments were interesting after LT left.

  371. guest123 Says:

    “The only team I really gave a thought to was the Broncos, because of Peyton,” Tomlinson said Saturday. “We talked. Tom (Condon, Tomlinson’s agent) talked with them … It made me pause a little (and think), ‘Was this what I really want to do?’

    “I said, ‘They got Peyton, they have a good defense already. They went deep in the playoffs with Tim Tebow. What are they going to do with Peyton?’ I seriously thought about it.”

    Tomlinson said he would not have left San Diego for the New York Jets if the Chargers had won a Super Bowl after the 2009 season. The Chargers had a 13-3 record that season despite Tomlinson playing through an ankle injury. They lost in the AFC divisional playoffs.

    “If we would have won the Super Bowl after nine years,” he said, “I would have retired a Charger. Then I wouldn’t even have gone to New York.”

    He said he signed as free agent with the Jets to pursue a Super Bowl ring. It was the same reason he nearly signed with the Broncos before deciding to retire.

    “That was the only reason I considered Denver,” he said. “At the same time, I thought, ‘How much is a Super Bowl ring really going to do for you at this point?’ Because it’s not with the team I really wanted to do it with.”

    ***********

    What a punk B*TCh loser LT2 is. First he craps all over his former SD teammates, and then talks about not wanting to win without them. Everything about this dude is full on gey.

  372. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Yea we should totally trade Branch.

    Gradkowski, I mean Giordano is totally better.. He had 5 more INTS than him, and everyone knows that means he’s a playmaker!

    #ItsTooEarlyForThisIgnorance

  373. boss01 Says:

    LT is a chump, always was, but Phillis Rivers is even a bigger chump, all that swag he exhibits and how many SB’s has he won? At least LT is an overachiever, anybody from Rosebud, TX who makes it to the NFL is, no matter how big a P@$$y they are.

  374. guest123 Says:

    The Big Banana Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 9:23 am
    Rivers’ and Gates’ comments were interesting after LT left.

    *******

    What’d they say?

  375. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Latest Trade Offer:

    Kings get: Kyle Lowry, Pick 14&16

    Rockets get: Tyreke Evans, Pick 5

    THEN:

    Magic get: Tyreke Evans, Kevin Martin, Pick 5&18

    Rockets get: Dwight Howard

  376. The Big Banana Says:

    Guest123 Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 9:25 am
    The Big Banana Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 9:23 am
    Rivers’ and Gates’ comments were interesting after LT left.

    *******

    What’d they say?

    ————–

    Essentially said that LT thought/acted like he was bigger than the team. They were actually relieved to be moving on without him.

  377. The Big Banana Says:

    #371 – funny to see LT waffle back and forth. He’s delusional if he thinks he would have helped the Donks this year.

  378. guest123 Says:

    Just what I thought. I bet they were happy sending his 50″ visio shillin azz off to NYC to be a scrub backup. Probably laughing at the idea of him playing with Mark Sanchez. Served him right. San Diego got better the day he left. Unfortuntely for them, they got the Norv. Can’t ever win anything with that dud. One less team to worry about in the division.

  379. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Lakers are shopping Artest in hopes of getting a late 1st round pick.

  380. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Lakers to offer Pau Gasol to the Wizards for the #3 pick if Beal is taken #2.

  381. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Houston’s plan is to acquire Dwight Howard & Sign Deron Williams.

  382. The Big Banana Says:

    Rivers – maybe it was a bit of a relief. Maybe it was a feeling of ‘I can do a little more without wondering what he thinks’

    Gates – sometimes you would get the sense that people felt bigger than the team. Not to say it was an issue, but we know it’s not an issue for sure now.

    Hardwick – it’s exciting. We’re going to have to come up with our own identity…things are going to start to emerge and develop.

  383. Method To My Madness Says:

    Can Dwight Howard finally be the best player in the nba as he should be?

  384. guest123 Says:

    Sounds like comments someone would say about Dwight Howard.

  385. Method To My Madness Says:

    381.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 9:47 am
    Houston’s plan is to acquire Dwight Howard & Sign Deron Williams.

    **********

    Good…he can be in Houston where Hakeem lives and actually havea real post game…maybe he can average 28pts and 15 reb…stop being a dancing fool and be a ball player

  386. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    guest123 Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 9:50 am
    Sounds like comments someone would say about Dwight Howard.

    —-

    Tell me about it.

  387. guest123 Says:

    Dwight Howard should be the best player in the NBA, but he’s got a fragile ego and a soft puxxy when the chips are down.

  388. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Cute that the Lakers think Artest can get them a late 1st rounder.

  389. Method To My Madness Says:

    387.guest123 Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 9:52 am
    Dwight Howard should be the best player in the NBA, but he’s got a fragile ego and a soft puxxy when the chips are down.

    *************

    the exact reason vegas raider still owes me 100 bucks from 2010 east finals lol

  390. Method To My Madness Says:

    388.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 9:54 am
    Cute that the Lakers think Artest can get them a late 1st rounder.

    ************

    its sad

  391. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Dwight has always played big in the the big games.

    His immaturity off the court & latest ‘heel’ turn has been his downfall.

  392. The Big Banana Says:

    I hope they examine his playoff stats when HOF voting comes around for him – 10 career playoff games – averaged under 50 yards. When the pressure was on, LT folded.

  393. Method To My Madness Says:

    391.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 9:56 am
    Dwight has always played big in the the big games.

    His immaturity off the court & latest ‘heel’ turn has been his downfall.

    **************

    No he hasnt…thats a lie…only one game i truly saw dominance in a big game…game 6 east finals 2009…besides that he has been a chump…dont get me started on 2009 finals…he is soft

  394. Method To My Madness Says:

    392.The Big Banana Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 9:59 am
    I hope they examine his playoff stats when HOF voting comes around for him – 10 career playoff games – averaged under 50 yards. When the pressure was on, LT folded.

    *********

    Lawrence Taylor never folded…what are you talking about?

  395. Method To My Madness Says:

    Duece…i hate dwight howard becuz he is a waste of talent…seriously…how is he not avg 28ppg 15 rebs and 3 blocks constantly?

  396. The Big Banana Says:

    You’re right, Method. He doesn’t deserve those initials. Lady Tomlinson. Excuse me.

  397. guest123 Says:

    Yeah, the playoff meltdowns are what LT2 should be remembered for. Come January, having him on your team meant for nothing. But the HOF is all about compiled stats, and not so much about post-season acheivements. When they run the highlight reel for his induction ceremony, all they will be running are September and October game footage. What will be his career signature play or moment? That he went a decade plus never really caring if he won a superbowl?

    It’ll be a damn shame to see him inducted. He’s already asking for his but-buddy Lorenzo Neal to give the induction speach. Way to put the cart before the horse there LT. lol

  398. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Dwight is far from soft.

    Immature, yes. Soft, no.

  399. hwnrdr Says:

    You Haters still crack me up!!! LOL

  400. guest123 Says:

    Lady QU33R Tomlinson

  401. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 10:07 am
    Duece…i hate dwight howard becuz he is a waste of talent…seriously…how is he not avg 28ppg 15 rebs and 3 blocks constantly?

    —-

    I agree, I think it has a lot to do with teammates also.

    Redick & Courtney Lee were the only guys we’ve had that could execute a simple entry pass into the post..

  402. guest123 Says:

    I think it’s funny and somehow interconnected that we’re mixing the topics of Lady Tomlinson and Dwight Howard. Nice segway to and from each topic.

  403. Raidernationdave Says:

    That headcase ain’t worth the trouble. A first round pick? Mitch id delusional.

    +++++++++++

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 9:54 am

    Cute that the Lakers think Artest can get them a late 1st rounder.

  404. Method To My Madness Says:

    397.guest123 Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 10:07 am
    Yeah, the playoff meltdowns are what LT2 should be remembered for. Come January, having him on your team meant for nothing. But the HOF is all about compiled stats, and not so much about post-season acheivements. When they run the highlight reel for his induction ceremony, all they will be running are September and October game footage. What will be his career signature play or moment? That he went a decade plus never really caring if he won a superbowl?

    It’ll be a damn shame to see him inducted. He’s already asking for his but-buddy Lorenzo Neal to give the induction speach. Way to put the cart before the horse there LT. lol

    **********

    LT=Lawrence Taylor….stop disrespecting the great 2 time SB champ please

  405. Method To My Madness Says:

    398.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 10:07 am
    Dwight is far from soft.

    Immature, yes. Soft, no.

    ****************

    SOFT=Dwight Howard….does all that silly ass dancing and playing like a cartoon character…he has been getting punked…only time he punked someone was Big Z in 2009…a guy that has nada in his legs at that. He is pitiful to watch

  406. Method To My Madness Says:

    402.guest123 Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 10:12 am
    I think it’s funny and somehow interconnected that we’re mixing the topics of Lady Tomlinson and Dwight Howard. Nice segway to and from each topic.

    ************

    Soft poodles who arent champions

  407. guest123 Says:

    Sorry b@uce. my bad. I meant Lady T. Lawrence Taylor NY Giants has my full respect.

  408. DutchRaider77 Says:

    Anybody here about Thomas Mayo at camp? Competition looks pretty tough at WR.

    After a great week at the East/West Shrine game in Florida, NFL scouts left talking about a small school wide receiver. In just a few days, Thomas Mayo was showing NFL scouts, why he deserved a chance to be on the football field at the next level. Thomas Mayo was one of the most explosive wide receivers in the history of Division II amassing 4,000 plus receiving yards. I have done interviews with Thomas in the past, and can’t wait to see how he has been in Oakland after surviving his first OTA’s as a Raider.

    http://www.mockingthedraft.com/2012/6/23/3111529/camp-keepers-thomas-mayo-wr-oakland-raiders

  409. SR Raider Says:

    Tomlinson, Howard, Artest…must be losers day on the Raider blog

  410. Method To My Madness Says:

    401.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 10:09 am
    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 10:07 am
    Duece…i hate dwight howard becuz he is a waste of talent…seriously…how is he not avg 28ppg 15 rebs and 3 blocks constantly?

    —-

    I agree, I think it has a lot to do with teammates also.

    Redick & Courtney Lee were the only guys we’ve had that could execute a simple entry pass into the post..

    ******************

    That’s an excuse….Howard was drafted number 1…alot like Palmer…when you are drafted that high…the WORLD is expected of ya…you dont want that pressure? Then dont accept your draft status…its that simple…number 1 draft picks are MVPs,constantly 1st all NBA, Finals MVPs…World title Winners!

  411. Method To My Madness Says:

    409.SR Raider Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 10:21 am
    Tomlinson, Howard, Artest…must be losers day on the Raider blog

    ****************

    HAHAHAHA…awesome SR

  412. SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:

    Waddup Nation… Long time no holler…

    Rack ‘em

  413. Method To My Madness Says:

    407.guest123 Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 10:21 am
    Sorry b@uce. my bad. I meant Lady T. Lawrence Taylor NY Giants has my full respect.

    *********

    Not your fault…the dumbass media created that bullschit…if I was dope smoking ass LT I’d be pissed they give my nickname to a guy who is soft as medicated cotton and who wont lay it all onthe line for his teammates and who cant even get tothe big game

  414. Method To My Madness Says:

    412.SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 10:23 am
    Waddup Nation… Long time no holler…

    Rack ‘em

    *********************

    M-I-Z….S-E-C!

  415. DutchRaider77 Says:

    @Meth
    Do you hate on Spencer cause he ex-fairy-niner or b/c you think he sucks? (I suppose it could be both?) Personally I am puling for the guy, love to rub it in my friends nose if they let him walk to the Raiders.

  416. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 10:22 am
    401.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 10:09 am
    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 10:07 am
    Duece…i hate dwight howard becuz he is a waste of talent…seriously…how is he not avg 28ppg 15 rebs and 3 blocks constantly?

    —-

    I agree, I think it has a lot to do with teammates also.

    Redick & Courtney Lee were the only guys we’ve had that could execute a simple entry pass into the post..

    ******************

    That’s an excuse….Howard was drafted number 1…alot like Palmer…when you are drafted that high…the WORLD is expected of ya…you dont want that pressure? Then dont accept your draft status…its that simple…number 1 draft picks are MVPs,constantly 1st all NBA, Finals MVPs…World title Winners!

    —-

    IDK, cant bunch everyone up id say.

    Cuz I cant remember how good Kwame Brown played in his first Finals?..

    Dwight will put it all together, wont be in a Magic uniform though.

  417. guest123 Says:

    Not a lot of talk about Mayo during OTA’s. I guess he’ll get a chance to show his stuff in training camp, but if we haven’t heard anything of note, he’s probably not going to stick. It’s important to note who is running with the one’s and Mayo wasn’t anywhere near them.

  418. Method To My Madness Says:

    So we got about a month left gentlemen until Napa….gonna be a long month….baseball just not that interesting enough to go in depth on or hit the bars up to watch the games….i will be watching alot of NFL Network….i need July to fly fast and i mean at Olympic speed

  419. guest123 Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 10:23 am
    409.SR Raider Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 10:21 am
    Tomlinson, Howard, Artest…must be losers day on the Raider blog

    ****************

    HAHAHAHA…awesome SR

    *******

    Isn’t Sandusky in the news a lot today too?

  420. Method To My Madness Says:

    416.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 10:25 am
    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 10:22 am
    401.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 10:09 am
    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 10:07 am
    Duece…i hate dwight howard becuz he is a waste of talent…seriously…how is he not avg 28ppg 15 rebs and 3 blocks constantly?

    —-

    I agree, I think it has a lot to do with teammates also.

    Redick & Courtney Lee were the only guys we’ve had that could execute a simple entry pass into the post..

    ******************

    That’s an excuse….Howard was drafted number 1…alot like Palmer…when you are drafted that high…the WORLD is expected of ya…you dont want that pressure? Then dont accept your draft status…its that simple…number 1 draft picks are MVPs,constantly 1st all NBA, Finals MVPs…World title Winners!

    —-

    IDK, cant bunch everyone up id say.

    Cuz I cant remember how good Kwame Brown played in his first Finals?..

    Dwight will put it all together, wont be in a Magic uniform though.

    **********

    You can thank you Bulls Mascot Michael Overrated Jordan for ruining Kwame Brown

    We will see if Dwight can put it all together because so far he has fallen short but he can shut it all up like Lebron did or like Coach scumbag Calipari did

    In the last decade of sports alot of guys have got the monkey off their back

  421. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    I hope Spencer pans out for us.

    I could care less where he played last.

  422. Method To My Madness Says:

    419.guest123 Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 10:27 am
    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 10:23 am
    409.SR Raider Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 10:21 am
    Tomlinson, Howard, Artest…must be losers day on the Raider blog

    ****************

    HAHAHAHA…awesome SR

    *******

    Isn’t Sandusky in the news a lot today too?

    ************

    Cant get juiced about his conviction…he is like 70 fkin years old and lived the good life while ruining young boys lives…its just sad

  423. SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:

    414.Method To My Madness Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 10:24 am
    412.SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 10:23 am
    Waddup Nation… Long time no holler…

    Rack ‘em

    *********************

    M-I-Z….S-E-C!

    ———————-

    Waddup homie!…..it’s been a grip. Hope you liked how my Cards finished the year out. Gave KY the best game honestly; and it still wasn’t enough..gotta tip my hat to ‘em….we should be preseason #1 this year though… but yea; I see ya’ll making moves…gonna be brutal for their football team; but at least KY will have to worry about another team besides Florida in bball

  424. Method To My Madness Says:

    415.DutchRaider77 Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 10:25 am
    @Meth
    Do you hate on Spencer cause he ex-fairy-niner or b/c you think he sucks? (I suppose it could be both?) Personally I am puling for the guy, love to rub it in my friends nose if they let him walk to the Raiders.

    *****************

    49ers=must die a slow and painful death or denounced the 49ers and bow to Al Davis in heaven…thanks

  425. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 10:27 am
    416.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 10:25 am
    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 10:22 am
    401.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 10:09 am
    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 10:07 am
    Duece…i hate dwight howard becuz he is a waste of talent…seriously…how is he not avg 28ppg 15 rebs and 3 blocks constantly?

    —-

    I agree, I think it has a lot to do with teammates also.

    Redick & Courtney Lee were the only guys we’ve had that could execute a simple entry pass into the post..

    ******************

    That’s an excuse….Howard was drafted number 1…alot like Palmer…when you are drafted that high…the WORLD is expected of ya…you dont want that pressure? Then dont accept your draft status…its that simple…number 1 draft picks are MVPs,constantly 1st all NBA, Finals MVPs…World title Winners!

    —-

    IDK, cant bunch everyone up id say.

    Cuz I cant remember how good Kwame Brown played in his first Finals?..

    Dwight will put it all together, wont be in a Magic uniform though.

    **********

    You can thank you Bulls Mascot Michael Overrated Jordan for ruining Kwame Brown

    We will see if Dwight can put it all together because so far he has fallen short but he can shut it all up like Lebron did or like Coach scumbag Calipari did

    In the last decade of sports alot of guys have got the monkey off their back

    —-

    Very true.

    Im starting to hate the perception of blaming individual players for not winning it all..

    Its a team game.

  426. guest123 Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 10:28 am
    I hope Spencer pans out for us.

    I could care less where he played last.

    **********
    I like his attitude. But I don’t see us carrying 2 AARP member corners. I don’t think he sticks, I could see Bartell. But if you read his bio and his burn rate, that pretty much tells you what he is.

  427. SR Raider Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 10:28 am

    Cant get juiced about his conviction…he is like 70 fkin years old and lived the good life while ruining young boys lives…its just sad
    =======

    Agreed. Too bad they won’t put him in general populace. Wouldn’t last a day in there

  428. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    guest123 Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 10:30 am
    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 10:28 am
    I hope Spencer pans out for us.

    I could care less where he played last.

    **********
    I like his attitude. But I don’t see us carrying 2 AARP member corners. I don’t think he sticks, I could see Bartell. But if you read his bio and his burn rate, that pretty much tells you what he is.

    —-

    Outside of Champ Bailey, Allen has turned a lot of chicken crap into chicken salad..

  429. Method To My Madness Says:

    423.SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 10:29 am
    414.Method To My Madness Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 10:24 am
    412.SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 10:23 am
    Waddup Nation… Long time no holler…

    Rack ‘em

    *********************

    M-I-Z….S-E-C!

    ———————-

    Waddup homie!…..it’s been a grip. Hope you liked how my Cards finished the year out. Gave KY the best game honestly; and it still wasn’t enough..gotta tip my hat to ‘em….we should be preseason #1 this year though… but yea; I see ya’ll making moves…gonna be brutal for their football team; but at least KY will have to worry about another team besides Florida in bball

    *************************

    I bet ya Mizzou gets 9 wins in football…Mizzou got a good damn team trust that and that WR they got coming in is Randy Moss/Young TO combined…they gonna rock a few people’s melons this year

    Lville played great…UK just had too much for everyone this season

    but yes UK will have Mizzou to deal with…Mizzou just gotta get the chemistry down with all the new guys coming in…but by January they will be top 5 again no doubt..more size and depth plus dixon is starting at SG! Yes!

  430. Method To My Madness Says:

    428.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 10:32 am
    guest123 Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 10:30 am
    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 10:28 am
    I hope Spencer pans out for us.

    I could care less where he played last.

    **********
    I like his attitude. But I don’t see us carrying 2 AARP member corners. I don’t think he sticks, I could see Bartell. But if you read his bio and his burn rate, that pretty much tells you what he is.

    —-

    Outside of Champ Bailey, Allen has turned a lot of chicken crap into chicken salad..

    ********

    Duece we need it now more than ever!

  431. guest123 Says:

    Is that what the 2012 Raiders D gonna be known as?

    The chicken salad defense?

  432. SR Raider Says:

    123 – where do you see us picking up another corner, if Spencer fails? FA market not looking good

  433. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    guest123 Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 10:35 am
    Is that what the 2012 Raiders D gonna be known as?

    The chicken salad defense?

    —-

    It all boils down to how much pressure we can generate.

    Spencer & Bartell will look golden if we can pressure the QB consistently..

  434. Method To My Madness Says:

    431.guest123 Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 10:35 am
    Is that what the 2012 Raiders D gonna be known as?

    The chicken salad defense?

    ***************

    How bout middle of the pack? Thats a start compared to last decade

  435. guest123 Says:

    SR, I dunno, we’re kinda screwed at corner especially if we get hit with injuries. The FA cupboard is bare and Reggies got lint in his pockets.

    Crossing my fingers and praying for Checkwa. I do not believe in Demarcus Van Dyke. Not rooting against anyone who dresses out in the S&B though.

  436. Method To My Madness Says:

    433.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 10:36 am
    guest123 Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 10:35 am
    Is that what the 2012 Raiders D gonna be known as?

    The chicken salad defense?

    —-

    It all boils down to how much pressure we can generate.

    Spencer & Bartell will look golden if we can pressure the QB consistently..

    *************

    Totally…..but houston and shaughnessy your base ends? woooooi dunno

  437. SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:

    That’s a good look for your cuz. We both know how talented he is; and the masses will be enlightened this year. Hope he does well…don’t know if you know or not; but they’re gonna be in the same early season tourney as the Ville in the Bahamas (that Atlantis classic they started last year)…Duke, Mizzu, the Ville, Minnesota, Memphis, Stanford, VCU, & UNI….should be a good one. Wish I could go; but the tourney is thanksgiving weekend; and bread is always tight with Christmas right around the corner…

  438. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    A lot of people blame CJ37 & Routt..

    The lack of pressure did them in more time than not.

    Thats why the “Branch isnt that good argument is so weak”

    Our secondary was put out to dry by bad scheme and no pressure every other play.

  439. Method To My Madness Says:

    435.guest123 Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 10:37 am
    SR, I dunno, we’re kinda screwed at corner especially if we get hit with injuries. The FA cupboard is bare and Reggies got lint in his pockets.

    Crossing my fingers and praying for Checkwa. I do not believe in Demarcus Van Dyke. Not rooting against anyone who dresses out in the S&B though.

    ************

    DVD sucks and isnt a true Raider…he likes the lifestyle and party life….Chekwa is cool…i want Chekwa and Bartell as my starters

  440. Raidernationdave Says:

    Might wanna look at it this way naysayers:

    A year off for Spencer and Bartel might just be the restart they both for their careers. Oakland needs discipline and stability at CB not necessarily game changers.

  441. Method To My Madness Says:

    437.SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 10:38 am
    That’s a good look for your cuz. We both know how talented he is; and the masses will be enlightened this year. Hope he does well…don’t know if you know or not; but they’re gonna be in the same early season tourney as the Ville in the Bahamas (that Atlantis classic they started last year)…Duke, Mizzu, the Ville, Minnesota, Memphis, Stanford, VCU, & UNI….should be a good one. Wish I could go; but the tourney is thanksgiving weekend; and bread is always tight with Christmas right around the corner…

    *******************

    I’m more than likely going!…cant wait to see Mr Siva again..he was mad cool

  442. guest123 Says:

    It all boils down to how much pressure we can generate.

    Spencer & Bartell will look golden if we can pressure the QB consistently..

    *********

    Who is going to replace the constant pressure that Kam Wimbley brought that led to sacks and hurries? And consider that with our new look CB’s, we need to amp that pressure up at least 50% to be effective. Who’s bringing the heat?

  443. Method To My Madness Says:

    flip pressey vs peyton siva pg matchup will be fun i say

  444. guest123 Says:

    DVD sucks and isnt a true Raider…he likes the lifestyle and party life….Chekwa is cool…i want Chekwa and Bartell as my starters

    *********

    yeah, that’s exactly what I want too.

  445. Method To My Madness Says:

    Raiders have no person who can get them 12 sacks…this is a problem….Let’s hope this blitzing of lbs helps

  446. SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:

    I like Chekwa too…long as he can stay on the field; he looks like he might be the real deal

  447. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    guest123 Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 10:40 am
    It all boils down to how much pressure we can generate.

    Spencer & Bartell will look golden if we can pressure the QB consistently..

    *********

    Who is going to replace the constant pressure that Kam Wimbley brought that led to sacks and hurries? And consider that with our new look CB’s, we need to amp that pressure up at least 50% to be effective. Who’s bringing the heat?

    —-

    Whoever is called upon by Tarver.

    We will get scheme pressure finally instead of relying on the DE’s or occasional S blitz.

    McClain looked like a great inside blitzer too..

  448. Method To My Madness Says:

    Watch how much you guys die laughing when they interview Spencer…he sounds like a country geek

  449. SR Raider Says:

    The heat will come from everywhere. The one good thing we have going on D is that we will have a modern defense for the first time. It may take half a season to gel, but in the end, DA will have that side of the ball playing at least NFL-average

  450. Method To My Madness Says:

    McClain looked like a great inside blitzer too..

    ***********

    yeah he sure “shoots” the gap well

  451. Method To My Madness Says:

    449.SR Raider Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 10:42 am
    The heat will come from everywhere. The one good thing we have going on D is that we will have a modern defense for the first time. It may take half a season to gel, but in the end, DA will have that side of the ball playing at least NFL-average

    ************

    i expect growing pains by most defenses catch up by november in the nfl

  452. SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    *******************

    I’m more than likely going!…cant wait to see Mr Siva again..he was mad cool

    ————————

    Man; you’re real for making that trip; that’ll be dope….if I fall into some bread in the next few months; I might have to make that hike; but I doubt it. and yea; this is Siva’s year that he’s gotta prove he can nail that mid-range consistently…if he can; he’ll be first round. Blackshear, Dieng and Behanan are gonna have monster years though. The transfer Hancock too. I’d be surprised if they weren’t #1 to open up the year in all polls.

    Speaking of Mizzu; they’re disrespecting English…no way he should drop to the 2nd round of the draft; but that’s what I’m reading on the mocks….whoever lands him late is getting a certified steal…He’d be huge for someone like Chicago

  453. DutchRaider77 Says:

    A lot of people blame CJ37 & Routt..

    The lack of pressure did them in more time than not.

    Thats why the “Branch isnt that good argument is so weak”

    Our secondary was put out to dry by bad scheme and no pressure every other play.

    __________________________________________________

    Also, coaching is going to have a huge impact. Seemed like our secondary was confused a lot of time and pointing fingers. I am also leaning on Rod Woodson’s comments that players were not coached up with Hue in charge.

    Think Houston will have a surprise year. Didn’t he have the second most holding penalities against him in the league (i.e he was held)?

  454. guest123 Says:

    It may take half a season to gel, but in the end, DA will have that side of the ball playing at least NFL-average

    **********

    SR,

    That’s code for starting the season 2-6, improving to a 6-10 or 7-9 finish. Mad Scientist Tarver and DA have to get the pressure early and often if they want to give us a chance to finish strong. This is like moneyball. Trying to plug in has beens and wannabees into specific situations to manufacture stats.

  455. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 10:43 am
    McClain looked like a great inside blitzer too..

    ***********

    yeah he sure “shoots” the gap well

    —-

    Nice!..

  456. guest123 Says:

    Think Houston will have a surprise year. Didn’t he have the second most holding penalities against him in the league (i.e he was held)?

    **********

    That all depends on Lamarr’s “want to”. Does he “want to”? Man, he can be a beast at times, but other times he checks out and his backside pursuit is on par with Romac’s. If had half the motor of Shonasty, with his tools, he’d be special. Just a matter of “want to”.

  457. SR Raider Says:

    123 – don’t discount the offense at the start of the season. They have the potential to be top-10, which will win a few games early (before DMAC gets hurt)

  458. DutchRaider77 Says:

    Who is going to replace the constant pressure that Kam Wimbley brought that led to sacks and hurries? And consider that with our new look CB’s, we need to amp that pressure up at least 50% to be effective. Who’s bringing the heat?

    ____________________________________________________

    How about Wheeler and Tollefson? Also, no more Gio blitzes!

  459. RaiderRockstar Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 9:25 am
    Yea we should totally trade Branch.

    ***

    printed, thanks DAV!

  460. The Big Banana Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 10:42 am
    Watch how much you guys die laughing when they interview Spencer…he sounds like a country geek

    —————

    Already seen it. Watched the Raider Nation video the team released last week. He was wearing a cap that looked 4 sizes too big.

  461. Method To My Madness Says:

    452.SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 10:45 am
    Method To My Madness Says:
    *******************

    I’m more than likely going!…cant wait to see Mr Siva again..he was mad cool

    ————————

    Man; you’re real for making that trip; that’ll be dope….if I fall into some bread in the next few months; I might have to make that hike; but I doubt it. and yea; this is Siva’s year that he’s gotta prove he can nail that mid-range consistently…if he can; he’ll be first round. Blackshear, Dieng and Behanan are gonna have monster years though. The transfer Hancock too. I’d be surprised if they weren’t #1 to open up the year in all polls.

    Speaking of Mizzu; they’re disrespecting English…no way he should drop to the 2nd round of the draft; but that’s what I’m reading on the mocks….whoever lands him late is getting a certified steal…He’d be huge for someone like Chicago

    *******

    yes…kimmie is top 5 SG in this draft…great size and defense..leadership…needs better ball handling but chitown needs a SG…rose cant be leading scorer

  462. guest123 Says:

    SR,

    I agree with you about the offense. I’m still very concerned with the right tackle position which sucks. But theoretically we should win a few shootouts early. But add in the injuries which are bound to happen and guess what….no more shootouts, but blowouts instead. If DA and Mad Scientist Tarver don’t cook up some special chicken salad recipe.

  463. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Lakers are shopping Artest in hopes of getting a late 1st round pick.

    Lakers to offer Pau Gasol to the Wizards for the #3 pick if Beal is taken #2.

    ***

    LOL @ Laker fans trying to get rid of their best 2 role players for KB outside of oft-injured Bynum!

  464. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 10:51 am
    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 9:25 am
    Yea we should totally trade Branch.

    ***

    printed, thanks DAV!

    —-

    LOL.

  465. guest123 Says:

    Who’s bringing the heat?

    ____________________________________________________

    How about Wheeler and Tollefson? Also, no more Gio blitzes!

    *******

    My “moneyball” calculator says that doesn’t compute. Still in the negative.

  466. Method To My Madness Says:

    460.The Big Banana Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 10:51 am
    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 10:42 am
    Watch how much you guys die laughing when they interview Spencer…he sounds like a country geek

    —————

    Already seen it. Watched the Raider Nation video the team released last week. He was wearing a cap that looked 4 sizes too big.

    **************

    He seems like a tard to me…seriously…i hate that dumb look on his face

  467. SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:

    yes…kimmie is top 5 SG in this draft…great size and defense..leadership…needs better ball handling but chitown needs a SG…rose cant be leading scorer

    ————-

    EXACTLY…they don’t need a great on the bounce 2 guard; just a decent one who can get his own shot with size and a nice stroke…Chicago would love him… I was thinking the Thunder might take him too ’cause they’re gonna be hard pressed to keep that team together with Harden due for more dough and they know they’re gonna keep Ibaka…

  468. Method To My Madness Says:

    467.SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 10:56 am
    yes…kimmie is top 5 SG in this draft…great size and defense..leadership…needs better ball handling but chitown needs a SG…rose cant be leading scorer

    ————-

    EXACTLY…they don’t need a great on the bounce 2 guard; just a decent one who can get his own shot with size and a nice stroke…Chicago would love him… I was thinking the Thunder might take him too ’cause they’re gonna be hard pressed to keep that team together with Harden due for more dough and they know they’re gonna keep Ibaka…

    ************

    even better okieville may get him

  469. hwnrdr Says:

    Wait, Rockstar…
    how is it that the Laker Fans are getting rid of Artest and Gasol??? If I had that much power, I tell you…lol

  470. Method To My Madness Says:

    brb

  471. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Outside of Champ Bailey, Allen has turned a lot of chicken crap into chicken salad..

    ***

    False.

    did the 2010 Donkeys DC have Dumervil (I.R.) or Miller (rookie) ?

    did he have a legit defensive-minded HC like John Fox is & a big man in the middle like Bunkley?

    poor Don Martindale!!

  472. SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:

    Why are the Lakers even crying about making moves? …..As much as I hate the Lakers, and I HATE the Lakers; they low-key gave away the OKC series with Kobe leading the way shooting as many difficult jumpers as he possibly could late in two of the games they should’ve won by closing the game out at the foul-line….if they blow that team up; they’ll regret it…..

  473. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 10:58 am
    Outside of Champ Bailey, Allen has turned a lot of chicken crap into chicken salad..

    ***

    False.

    did the 2010 Donkeys DC have Dumervil (I.R.) or Miller (rookie) ?

    did he have a legit defensive-minded HC like John Fox is & a big man in the middle like Bunkley?

    poor Don Martindale!!

    —-

    This quote was in reference to the DBs he has worked with.

  474. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    So. True. lol..

    If there is a gun you seem to jump it. lol..

  475. RaiderRockstar Says:

    KB24 turns 34 before the season starts. Lakers are trying to rebuild around him. LOL!!

    please get rid of Artest & Gasol for a few rookies

    trade Bynum to OKC for Perkins & Collison while you’re at it

    check this out:

    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/five-reasons-kobe-bryant-less-money-los-angeles-132200937–nba.html

  476. SR Raider Says:

    The Lakers have the cash, popularity and experience to rebuild a championship team pretty much every year. I don’t think the current group has the youth to get it done again. Time for a change

  477. theghostronin79 Says:

    *********

    Who is going to replace the constant pressure that Kam Wimbley brought that led to sacks and hurries? And consider that with our new look CB’s, we need to amp that pressure up at least 50% to be effective. Who’s bringing the heat?

    ===================================

    I believe that will likely be Mr. Burris…..Plus, Nasty will have that pocket collapsing with regularity.

  478. SR Raider Says:

    Don’t forget Shonasty. He’ll be there game 1 in force

  479. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    SR Raider Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 11:03 am
    The Lakers have the cash, popularity and experience to rebuild a championship team pretty much every year. I don’t think the current group has the youth to get it done again. Time for a change

    —-

    Actually cash means nothing, its the cap space they dont have.

  480. guest123 Says:

    Who’s bringing the heat?

    ===================================

    I believe that will likely be Mr. Burris…..Plus, Nasty will have that pocket collapsing with regularity.

    *********

    again, moneyball computations don’t add up. Sho is hurt all the time and his beastly play makes him likely to miss more time in the future. And Burris is a skinny white kid from a small kid who was drafted with a late pick. These two are going to bring the heat? I’m not saying they won’t be part of the solution, but still not replacing Kam and the added needed pressure to mask the weak secondary.

  481. alf_capone Says:

    does any new information come out of these live chats? is it worth my time?

  482. The Beeech Dawg Says:

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    Blog Brahs, the Beeech Diggity is back in FULL EFFECT, word ups to the sticky green ganja

    Yo, been getting wined and dined by TV execs all week over the pilot for my hot new concept Goober Blog Beatdown. Getting offered 7 figures plus licensing, holla

    Will probably be displaying my talents for the execs with some standard Brian the Genital / Peemore Bust beatdowns.

    Gotta choose some of my easier targets to warm up with to lock this deal up, supa fly fresh

    Ahhhh yeah, the new era of Beeeech Diggity World Domination has arrived, snap into a Slim Jim and get ready to salute the USA

    BRINGIN’ IT HOME THEN GOIN’ BACK TO ROME

  483. DutchRaider77 Says:

    *********

    Who is going to replace the constant pressure that Kam Wimbley brought that led to sacks and hurries? And consider that with our new look CB’s, we need to amp that pressure up at least 50% to be effective. Who’s bringing the heat?

    ===================================

    I believe that will likely be Mr. Burris…..Plus, Nasty will have that pocket collapsing with regularity.

    ________________________________________________

    Love the Bryant-ShoNasty twist!

  484. SR Raider Says:

    DAV – being able to draw quality FA’s to your team is a huge deal. Even more so in the NBA. LA is one of those places good players want to go. That is huge, cap or no cap.

    Hopefully the cap works and one or two great players make their way to Oakland instead.

  485. theghostronin79 Says:

    *********

    again, moneyball computations don’t add up. Sho is hurt all the time and his beastly play makes him likely to miss more time in the future. And Burris is a skinny white kid from a small kid who was drafted with a late pick. These two are going to bring the heat? I’m not saying they won’t be part of the solution, but still not replacing Kam and the added needed pressure to mask the weak secondary.

    =======================================

    It’s all speculation. Always is…..Who’s gonna be hurt, who’s gonna break out, who’s gonna tank, who’s gonna be our difference maker?

    Nasty is healthy right now….he brings the heat until he ain’t. Kam Wimbley’s contributions went largely unsung, I’ll give you that. He was creating ruckous and got MAD QB knock-downs. Burris is a Rookie, but skinny? He’s lighter than Kam by what 10-15 lbs? Did you see any of his highlights? He’s got a target lock on the football and shed’s blockers like they’re children.

  486. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Outside of Champ Bailey, Allen has turned a lot of chicken crap into chicken salad..

    This quote was in reference to the DBs he has worked with

    ***

    @DAV

    Malcolm Jenkins, Jabari Greer, Tracy Porter & Roman Harper aren’t scrubs.

    Brian Dawkins, Andre Goodman, Chris Harris & Quinton Carter aren’t either

  487. guest123 Says:

    The defense sucked last year.

    Blanket statement that we all can agree on right?

  488. SR Raider Says:

    Agree that Burris looked great slashing through blockers on his higlight reel

  489. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 11:16 am
    Outside of Champ Bailey, Allen has turned a lot of chicken crap into chicken salad..

    This quote was in reference to the DBs he has worked with

    ***

    @DAV

    Malcolm Jenkins, Jabari Greer, Tracy Porter & Roman Harper aren’t scrubs.

    Brian Dawkins, Andre Goodman, Chris Harris & Quinton Carter aren’t either

    —-

    LOL!..

  490. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Rahim Moore & David Bruton are pretty decent safeties for the Donks as well

    I think they kicked Cassius Vaughn & Jonathan Wilhite to the curb. Dawkins retired

  491. RaiderRockstar Says:

    being wrong is funny, DAV?

  492. theghostronin79 Says:

    The defense sucked last year.

    Blanket statement that we all can agree on right?

    =============================

    Why would it be 3rd and 19….and I’m pacing the living room and have ZERO confidence that the D can get off the field?…….and they WOULDN’T. So yes, I can agree to that.

  493. RaiderRockstar Says:

    did Branch get a 5-year $40 million contract yet ??

  494. alf_capone Says:

    The defense sucked last year.

    #############################################################################

    Understatement.

  495. horrordude0215 Says:

    theghostronin79 Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 11:21 am
    The defense sucked last year.

    Blanket statement that we all can agree on right?

    =============================

    Why would it be 3rd and 19….and I’m pacing the living room and have ZERO confidence that the D can get off the field?…….and they WOULDN’T. So yes, I can agree to that.
    =============================

    This. For God’s sake, I was worried that we were going to let the Browns do something hard as hell and recover that onside kick. Thank God they didn’t.

    Oh, wait. Nevermind.

    The Defense was a joke last year, and as much as I respected Al, Huff was right when he said he was ready to play for a “Real Defense”. Having Palmer and McFadden on the field at the same time will be effective, because if things get as bad as last year we’ll have to be equipped to winning shootouts.

  496. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Dennis Allen didn’t do jack squat in Denver.

    I’m glad that he’s our HC anyways. bright young mind. disciplined. up & comer. meshes with what Reggie wants to do. glad we didn’t go for a loser retread or retain Hueball

    DA will do big things in Oakland

  497. guest123 Says:

    So if we can agree that the defense sucked, and it’s a game of numbers (playing moneyball here)…

    Adding a new rookie DC from college and a one year wonder DC who salvaged a bad defense to mediocre as the new HC is supposed to close the gap to mediocity on defense?

    What playmakers have they brought to the table? What’s in the plus column and what’s in the minus?

    If anything, we added and lost and the sum of the components is a wash, even with Shonasty healthy. I’m not seeing a reason to believe in improvement, just on the assumption that DA and mad scientist Tarver are going to “modernize” the post AD defense. Sorry, but I am just not feeling that gullible today.

  498. theghostronin79 Says:

    I don’t think they’re gonna be Baltimore or anything…I think they’ll be better than last year. Even if it’s barely noticable. I DOUBT seriously that they’ll be worse. Maybe stay even but, I doubt that too. They will push off the bottom of the pool this year and start climbing. I look to see improvement and I think I will. I think we’ll all feel better once this year kicks off but, I’ll be the first to eat my turd sandwhich if they still suck.

  499. guest123 Says:

    Dennis Allen didn’t do jack squat in Denver.

    ************

    And yet you are glad he’s our HC because of what is not as opposed to what he is.

    wat?

  500. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 11:20 am
    being wrong is funny, DAV?

    —-

    Dude. Opinions cant be wrong, their opinions.

    Now when you said the Texans traded two 3’s for Schaub, and I pointed out it was false info, those are facts that are wrong..

    You keep convincing yourself that list of players are good.

  501. The Big Banana Says:

    Sorry, but I am just not feeling that gullible today.

    ————

    Lol. You people need to sweeten up the Koolaid for Guest.

  502. guest123 Says:

    I DOUBT seriously that they’ll be worse. Maybe stay even but, I doubt that too. They will push off the bottom of the pool this year and start climbing.

    *********

    Can’t go lower than zero, so I agree. What are we talking about here? A 30th ranked defense? Shoot for the stars?

  503. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Malcolm Jenkins, Jabari Greer, Tracy Porter & Roman Harper aren’t scrubs.

    Brian Dawkins, Andre Goodman, Chris Harris & Quinton Carter aren’t either

    —-

    Roman Harper the most blitzes as a safety, CUZ HE CANT COVER.

    Brian Dawkins, hasnt been a factor since Philly.

    Jenkins is an borderline disapointment.

    Everyone else on that list isnt worth metnioning.

    Chicken crap.

  504. alf_capone Says:

    I don’t think its gullible to assume our defense will be better because we have better schemes. now we can disguise our defense and qb’s won’t know instantly what we are doing. I think our d will improve.

  505. guest123 Says:

    Lol. You people need to sweeten up the Koolaid for Guest.

    ********

    I just a grapefruit, sorry people.

  506. The Big Banana Says:

    Can’t be worse than last year. Defense threw a wet blanket on the whole thing. Setting a record for penalties didn’t help either.

  507. SaintKaufman Says:

    Guest,
    Even my lazy eyes could call what play was coming when the defense was on the field.

    Expect a totally different look this year from anything we’ve seen in the past 5 years.

  508. guest123 Says:

    I don’t think its gullible to assume our defense will be better because we have better schemes. now we can disguise our defense and qb’s won’t know instantly what we are doing. I think our d will improve.

    *******

    Yeah, I keep hearing this scheme change as a reason for optimism. No more meddling of the long bony hands of old Al Davis to worry about anymore. It’s a little exagerated, don’t you think? It makes it look like Chuck Bresnahan was recruited right off the short bus. Like we were playing with one hand and foot tied behind our back.

    Bottom line is: players have to make plays. The DC can’t do this for them. It’s on them, or it should be. Guys like Huff can run their mouths all they want, but they were the ones not giving max effort out there. And if they deny it, they are lying to themselves and Raider Nation.

  509. alf_capone Says:

    also i dont know if these new guys are gonna be much better but now on those 3rd and 20 plays the qb cant just look for the guy stanford rout is covering and throw the ball right at him. wont miss that guy

  510. TxRaider210 Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 11:36 am
    Malcolm Jenkins, Jabari Greer, Tracy Porter & Roman Harper aren’t scrubs.

    Brian Dawkins, Andre Goodman, Chris Harris & Quinton Carter aren’t either

    —-

    Roman Harper the most blitzes as a safety, CUZ HE CANT COVER.

    Brian Dawkins, hasnt been a factor since Philly.

    Jenkins is an borderline disapointment.

    Everyone else on that list isnt worth metnioning.

    Chicken crap.

    —————————
    I do think Dawkins leadership had a lot to do with Dungver’s success last season.jmo

  511. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    guest123 Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 11:42 am
    I don’t think its gullible to assume our defense will be better because we have better schemes. now we can disguise our defense and qb’s won’t know instantly what we are doing. I think our d will improve.

    *******

    Yeah, I keep hearing this scheme change as a reason for optimism. No more meddling of the long bony hands of old Al Davis to worry about anymore. It’s a little exagerated, don’t you think? It makes it look like Chuck Bresnahan was recruited right off the short bus. Like we were playing with one hand and foot tied behind our back.

    Bottom line is: players have to make plays. The DC can’t do this for them. It’s on them, or it should be. Guys like Huff can run their mouths all they want, but they were the ones not giving max effort out there. And if they deny it, they are lying to themselves and Raider Nation.

    —-

    If you look into Bresnahans eyes and dont see a tard, IDK what to say lol..

  512. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    TxRaider210 Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 11:42 am
    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 11:36 am
    Malcolm Jenkins, Jabari Greer, Tracy Porter & Roman Harper aren’t scrubs.

    Brian Dawkins, Andre Goodman, Chris Harris & Quinton Carter aren’t either

    —-

    Roman Harper the most blitzes as a safety, CUZ HE CANT COVER.

    Brian Dawkins, hasnt been a factor since Philly.

    Jenkins is an borderline disapointment.

    Everyone else on that list isnt worth metnioning.

    Chicken crap.

    —————————
    I do think Dawkins leadership had a lot to do with Dungver’s success last season.jmo

    —-

    For sure.

    That being said, as a player he was what he was. Washed up.

  513. alf_capone Says:

    Bottom line is: players have to make plays. The DC can’t do this for them.

    ———————————————————

    you’re right but i think they will be in better position to make plays now. maybe im just wishful thinking

  514. TxRaider210 Says:

    LOL@512
    He had lost a step in Dungver, but if the tackle was in front of him, watch out.

  515. guest123 Says:

    I think we’re all in some sort of “wishful thinking” mode. Hoping to be pleasantly surprised at some point in the preseason. I count myself as well. Then again, we all may be delusional.

  516. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    TxRaider210 Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 11:45 am
    LOL@512
    He had lost a step in Dungver, but if the tackle was in front of him, watch out.

    —-

    Yeah, problem is it just wasnt in front of him that often. lol..

    His mind was doing all the work but his body couldnt respond.

  517. DutchRaider77 Says:

    Happy Birthday to Jon Condo!

  518. theghostronin79 Says:

    Bottom line is: players have to make plays. The DC can’t do this for them. It’s on them, or it should be. Guys like Huff can run their mouths all they want, but they were the ones not giving max effort out there. And if they deny it, they are lying to themselves and Raider Nation.

    ========================================

    100%

    But Maybe, just maybe, the players are actually Excited about this defense. Maybe they “FEEL” like the shackles have come off. That is going to be Key in how they perform. If each player feels like “OK, now it’s my time to shine.” then that’s what we’re after. The attitude will dictate performance I think. It could be rejuvinating to the vets just thinking that we’re bringing an arsenal this year.

    Positive change = Better attitude
    Better attitude = MORE effort
    MORE effort = More Plays being made

  519. hwnrdr Says:

    DutchRaider77 Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 11:49 am
    Happy Birthday to Jon Condo!

    yup, Happy Birthday!
    Where’s Bo…buwahahaha!

  520. guest123 Says:

    100%

    But Maybe, just maybe, the players are actually Excited about this defense. Maybe they “FEEL” like the shackles have come off. That is going to be Key in how they perform. If each player feels like “OK, now it’s my time to shine.” then that’s what we’re after. The attitude will dictate performance I think. It could be rejuvinating to the vets just thinking that we’re bringing an arsenal this year.

    Positive change = Better attitude
    Better attitude = MORE effort
    MORE effort = More Plays being made

    ***********

    Oh hell yeah! Some sugar cubes for my koolaid!

    Thanks, I needed that!

    Still gonna hope to be pleasantly surprised.

  521. theghostronin79 Says:

    It’s all we CAN do Bro.

  522. TxRaider210 Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 11:48 am
    TxRaider210 Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 11:45 am
    LOL@512
    He had lost a step in Dungver, but if the tackle was in front of him, watch out.

    —-

    Yeah, problem is it just wasnt in front of him that often. lol..

    His mind was doing all the work but his body couldnt respond.

    —————-
    Yeah I heard that bro, just doubt they go 8-8 without him and think they may miss him this year, just a feelin.

  523. guest123 Says:

    I especially like the part about “rejuvinating of vets”, because if you look at the good teams, the older guys are giving it max effort cuz they are leading the way for the young guys and building a franchise for the long haul. Pretty soon, free agents start whispering among themselves and talking about where they want to play. That’s how it used to be in Oakland. It used to be a sought after location to play football. Then it become the place only money could lure good players. For the team to build on 2012, the culture of the vets has to change for the better.

  524. SR Raider Says:

    This is the time to be optimistic. No injuries, new scheme, new coaches, the sky is the limit!

  525. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    SR Raider Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
    This is the time to be optimistic. No injuries, new scheme, new coaches, the sky is the limit!

    —-

    Word to Biggie?..

  526. Dakota Says:

    They do have plenty of cash and cap space is tight, but for years they have been trading away 1st round draft pick in order to pay less under the luxury tax, and now their old roster is paying for it. Some fans like Jhill were in denial that the trade deadline moves made by the Lakers where they gave away two first round draft picks were to make the team better, when in fact it was to acquire players whose contracts were either up, or unlikely to re-sign and dump some other contracts.

    The Lakers just signed a billion dollar TV deal, but now they are crying poor due to revenue sharing. Only idiots are buying that line.

    It will take the season ticket holders waking up before Jim Buss will be stopped.

  527. Marks hair Says:

    That chat is nonsense.. Call a few rooks cork. Do an interview..

  528. Marks hair Says:

    How does the D look cork? Uh, havent seen it… How good are the new players? Uh, havent seen them practice or play… Hows the weather then?

  529. alf_capone Says:

    chat is kinda boring

  530. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Oh thats where everyone is.. the “chat”..

  531. Method To My Madness Says:

    526.Dakota Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
    They do have plenty of cash and cap space is tight, but for years they have been trading away 1st round draft pick in order to pay less under the luxury tax, and now their old roster is paying for it. Some fans like Jhill were in denial that the trade deadline moves made by the Lakers where they gave away two first round draft picks were to make the team better, when in fact it was to acquire players whose contracts were either up, or unlikely to re-sign and dump some other contracts.

    The Lakers just signed a billion dollar TV deal, but now they are crying poor due to revenue sharing. Only idiots are buying that line.

    It will take the season ticket holders waking up before Jim Buss will be stopped.

    *******

    Damn

  532. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Q: do you think Richard Gordon has any shot to claim that starting TE spot?

    A: Not much of a chance to be the starter. He lacks the speed and the pass-catching ability to be an every-down TE.

    ***

    thoughts, Jhill?

  533. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Q: I think Ron Bartell is as good Routt if he bounces back. Your thoughts?

    A: Ron Bartell looked very, very good in the mini camps. Not worried about how he holds up at all.

    Q: Who will have a bigger breakout year: Huff or Branch?

    A: Michael Huff. He will be used more appropriately, in a manner that better fits his skills.

    ***

    BAM!!

    eat that haters :)

  534. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Q: Steve, do you think Branch is worth $7-8 million per season ??

    A: If he plays the way he did the first 3/4 of last season, yes.

    ***

    Oof! Cork answered my question too

  535. Dakota Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
    Q: Who will have a bigger breakout year: Huff or Branch?

    A: Michael Huff. He will be used more appropriately, in a manner that better fits his skills.
    +++++++++++++++++

    Is Michael Huff now the water boy?

  536. Raider J Says:

    I want to see someone step up and clearly become the #1 wr. I have some concerns about D-Wow’s hamstring, DHB’s hands, V12 Ford’s durability, Murph’s ability to beat bump & run coverage, and Criner/Streater’s inexperience.

  537. guest123 Says:

    If Gordon lacks the speed and pass catching ability and the bar is Brandon Myers, cut him already. He’s a damn stiff.

  538. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    guest123 Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
    If Gordon lacks the speed and pass catching ability and the bar is Brandon Myers, cut him already. He’s a damn stiff.

    —-

    Makes up for it in strength, blocking & ST’s.

    Also his speed & catch ability mean little as a FB.

    He can do both IMO.

  539. RaiderRockstar Says:

    next question to SC in live chat:

    I think Branch needs to make more plays to be considered a top safety in the NFL. Can I get some forced fumbles, INT’s , passes defensed & tackles for a loss? or do we pay top dollar for 100+ tackle seasons like Gibril Wilson ???

  540. guest123 Says:

    Is Michael Huff now the water boy?

    ********

    that’s what I was thinking. Go fetch that pail Huff, for real players to spit in. Tyvon, fresh bucket for you.

  541. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Also, would be a sad day that were cutting players because Steve Corkran doesnt think they are fast or can catch. lol..

  542. Raider O Says:

    LOL @ Preppie.

  543. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Q: I think Branch needs to make more plays to be considered a top safety in the NFL. Can I get some forced fumbles, INT’s , passes defensed & tackles for a loss? or do we pay top dollar for 100+ tackle seasons like Gibril Wilson ???

    A: Agreed. Ouch, don’t mention Gibril Wilson in these parts.

    ***

    LOL!!

  544. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Q: If McClain gets suspended during the season, do you think LB or secondary is our weakest area?

    A: Heck, you might make the case that the Raiders could be improved at linebacker with McClain out of the equation.

    ***

    Steve is awesome.

    JFB wont like this comment though!

  545. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Also, would be a sad day that were cutting players because Steve Corkran doesnt think they are fast or can catch.

    ***

    @DAV

    don’t you dare question Coach Corkran [aka blog pimp] !!

  546. RaiderRockstar Says:

    this live chat by Steve is quite juicy …

  547. guest123 Says:

    don’t you dare question Coach Corkran [aka blog pimp] !!

    *********

    I value his direct reports on what he sees, but his opinions are unreliable. Remember when he had DHB as the 6th best WR out of camp last year? Not that I disagree, but DHB made him eat his words with a ~1000 yard season.

  548. Method To My Madness Says:

    533.RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
    Q: I think Ron Bartell is as good Routt if he bounces back. Your thoughts?

    A: Ron Bartell looked very, very good in the mini camps. Not worried about how he holds up at all.

    Q: Who will have a bigger breakout year: Huff or Branch?

    A: Michael Huff. He will be used more appropriately, in a manner that better fits his skills.

    ***

    BAM!!

    eat that haters

    **************

    That wont happen…Huff still sucks and has given up big play after big play year after year

  549. RaiderRockstar Says:

    next question to SC:

    what have you seen from TE’s Kyle Efaw & Tory Humphrey ??

  550. Method To My Madness Says:

    537.guest123 Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
    If Gordon lacks the speed and pass catching ability and the bar is Brandon Myers, cut him already. He’s a damn stiff.

    ****************

    Myers is cool to me….dont know why so many on here hate on the guy…he will be a great blocker and surprise people with some big catches i believe this season

  551. RaiderRockstar Says:

    next question to SC:

    what have you seen from OLB’s Kaelin Burnett & Mario Kurn ??

  552. Method To My Madness Says:

    510.TxRaider210 Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 11:42 am
    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 11:36 am
    Malcolm Jenkins, Jabari Greer, Tracy Porter & Roman Harper aren’t scrubs.

    Brian Dawkins, Andre Goodman, Chris Harris & Quinton Carter aren’t either

    —-

    Roman Harper the most blitzes as a safety, CUZ HE CANT COVER.

    Brian Dawkins, hasnt been a factor since Philly.

    Jenkins is an borderline disapointment.

    Everyone else on that list isnt worth metnioning.

    Chicken crap.

    —————————
    I do think Dawkins leadership had a lot to do with Dungver’s success last season.jmo

    ***************

    how about luck and the fact the Raiders blew it big time….denver aint schit

  553. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Q: Will CP toss 35 TDs this season?

    A: I say more than that.

    ***

    Dang !!

  554. Method To My Madness Says:

    553.RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
    Q: Will CP toss 35 TDs this season?

    A: I say more than that.

    ***

    Dang !!

    ****************

    He will throw for 35 tds knowing he never has in his career? Trash answer and very irresponsible

    Carson will throw 35 TDs when Kell sells a house

  555. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
    Also, would be a sad day that were cutting players because Steve Corkran doesnt think they are fast or can catch.

    ***

    @DAV

    don’t you dare question Coach Corkran [aka blog pimp] !!

    —-

    lol, my bad.

  556. Method To My Madness Says:

    Ask will Carson Palmer throw more than 20 INTS this season?

    A: More

  557. guest123 Says:

    Myers is cool to me….dont know why so many on here hate on the guy…he will be a great blocker and surprise people with some big catches i believe this season

    **********

    Don’t get me wrong. I WANT Brandon Myers on the team. As the backup TE. And he’s a very good special teams player. Hope he makes the team. But he’s not a legit threat as a starting TE. He’s stiff, robotic, lead footed, and has no YAC ability.

  558. guest123 Says:

    Carson will throw 35 TDs when Kell sells a house

    _________

    :)

  559. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Q: does mike mitchell make the team this year alot of new saftys in camp’

    A: He will be on the team this season. He’s too versatile and plays special teams. Oh, and he doesn’t cost much.

    ***

    Branch = Gibril Wilson
    Mitchell = Derrick Gibson

    Go Raiders !!

  560. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Watching Matt Giordano play gives me yac(k) ability..

  561. guest123 Says:

    If Carson Palmer throws 35 TD’s, we are looking at 4-12 or 5-11. That’s not the recipe for success. That means he’s throwing for 20+ Int’s as well. Some of those will be 4th qtr backbreakers.

  562. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    Yo Brahs, just dropped off a 5lb turd pie and lost my lunch in the shower. At the same time.

    The Certified Platinum Posse were chillin’ in my living room watching the new Octomom vid on the 91′ plasma, and I happened to walk by while I was taking a bite of a tuna melt sub

    Barely made it to the head before I yacked in the bathtub, then started squirting hershey’s syrup all over the vanity

    Just put on some Baha Men to try and chill out, but got the shivers and started barfing all over again, this time in my magazine rack

    Doubt I’ll ever recover from the Octo Attack, brahs. Give a shout out to rasta brah Bob Marley in the Beeech Dawg’s name, holla

  563. Method To My Madness Says:

    557.guest123 Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
    Myers is cool to me….dont know why so many on here hate on the guy…he will be a great blocker and surprise people with some big catches i believe this season

    **********

    Don’t get me wrong. I WANT Brandon Myers on the team. As the backup TE. And he’s a very good special teams player. Hope he makes the team. But he’s not a legit threat as a starting TE. He’s stiff, robotic, lead footed, and has no YAC ability.

    *********************

    I’m sorry but i disagree…believe he is the best TE on roster and he is not lead footed thats not true at all

  564. Method To My Madness Says:

    561.guest123 Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
    If Carson Palmer throws 35 TD’s, we are looking at 4-12 or 5-11. That’s not the recipe for success. That means he’s throwing for 20+ Int’s as well. Some of those will be 4th qtr backbreakers.

    ****************

    25 tds 13 ints

  565. KoolKell Says:

    Every year, numerous time. Huff just said what most people felt.
    by scorkran 12:49 PM

    Steve, Huff spoke out last week about his happiness to play in a “real defense”. Have you heard similar sentiments from other players or coaches over the years? Probably off-record?
    by Ieyasu 12:48 PM

  566. TxRaider210 Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
    561.guest123 Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
    If Carson Palmer throws 35 TD’s, we are looking at 4-12 or 5-11. That’s not the recipe for success. That means he’s throwing for 20+ Int’s as well. Some of those will be 4th qtr backbreakers.

    ****************

    25 tds 13 ints

    —————-
    I’d say that sounds fair

  567. MistaBrown Says:

    Ask Cork if KK calls him a cracker when he emails him whining about other posters.

  568. Method To My Madness Says:

    565.KoolKell Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
    Every year, numerous time. Huff just said what most people felt.
    by scorkran 12:49 PM

    Steve, Huff spoke out last week about his happiness to play in a “real defense”. Have you heard similar sentiments from other players or coaches over the years? Probably off-record?
    by Ieyasu 12:48 PM
    *************

    Mr Hanky speaks again

  569. Method To My Madness Says:

    567.MistaBrown Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
    Ask Cork if KK calls him a cracker when he emails him whining about other posters.

    **********

    youre racist

  570. Method To My Madness Says:

    566.TxRaider210 Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
    561.guest123 Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
    If Carson Palmer throws 35 TD’s, we are looking at 4-12 or 5-11. That’s not the recipe for success. That means he’s throwing for 20+ Int’s as well. Some of those will be 4th qtr backbreakers.

    ****************

    25 tds 13 ints

    —————-
    I’d say that sounds fair

    **************

    yeah thats all he needs

  571. Seymour Bush Says:

    Carson will throw 35 TDs when Kell sells a house
    ======================================

    Palmer threw 32 TDs against 12 picks his 3rd year in the league with not a lot of talent around him. Kell will sell a house when, uh, well, uh, OK, kell will never sell a house.

  572. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Q: does Mike Mitchell remind you of Derrick Gibson ??

    A: No, he’s better than Gibson.

    ***

    oh snap!

    Gibson started 32 games for us.
    Mitchell has only started 7 games thus far!

  573. KoolKell Says:

    Steve, Huff spoke out last week about his happiness to play in a “real defense”. Have you heard similar sentiments from other players or coaches over the years? Probably off-record?

    by Ieyasu 12:48 PM
    ——————————————-
    Every year, numerous time. Huff just said what most people felt.
    by scorkran 12:49 PM

  574. DutchRaider77 Says:

    Good story on Raiders.com on UDFA A. Henry.

    http://www.raiders.com/news/article-1/Player-Profile-S-Aaron-Henry/a8e84235-a526-4c37-8d6c-da81f489234e

  575. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    Wondering what KrappyRat thinks of the Octomom video

    I can see the old fool wetting himself a few times during the scene where she dances in front of the fountain, then swallowing his dentures when she reveals her saggy fun bags

    I bet when he was a lady’s man back in the 1940’s he scored cattle like Octo all the time

  576. horrordude0215 Says:

    ^I asked a similar question earlier in the chat (Raider Philip). He agreed that what Huff said was candid, but he wasn’t saying anything other than what everyone already knew.

  577. KoolKell Says:

    Horrordude0215 Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 1:17 pm

    ^I asked a similar question earlier in the chat (Raider Philip). He agreed that what Huff said was candid, but he wasn’t saying anything other than what everyone already knew.
    ————————————–
    There’s a lot of bloggers in here who would disagree. (not me)

  578. Seymour Bush Says:

    The Beeech Dawg Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
    Wondering what KrappyRat thinks of the Octomom video
    ========================================

    He’ll have to wait until Jamista Clown brings it back from the library.

  579. Method To My Madness Says:

    571.Seymour Bush Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
    Carson will throw 35 TDs when Kell sells a house
    ======================================

    Palmer threw 32 TDs against 12 picks his 3rd year in the league with not a lot of talent around him. Kell will sell a house when, uh, well, uh, OK, kell will never sell a house.

    *****************************

    Stop now….please stop….really just stop now

  580. Method To My Madness Says:

    Glenn said…chad tj and henry werent alot of talent for carson lol..did you watch 2005?

  581. Method To My Madness Says:

    577.KoolKell Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
    Horrordude0215 Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 1:17 pm

    ^I asked a similar question earlier in the chat (Raider Philip). He agreed that what Huff said was candid, but he wasn’t saying anything other than what everyone already knew.
    ————————————–
    There’s a lot of bloggers in here who would disagree. (not me)

    ***********

    Yeah excuse Huff for not doing this pop warner kids can do…like tackle

  582. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
    Glenn said…chad tj and henry werent alot of talent for carson lol..did you watch 2005?

    —-

    LOL!

    RIP Henry.

  583. MistaBrown Says:

    As we all know Glenn is a certified derelict. Under which alias did he say this ?
    _______

    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 1:23 pm

    Glenn said…chad tj and henry werent alot of talent for carson lol..did you watch 2005?

  584. Seymour Bush Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 1:23 pm

    Glenn said…chad tj and henry werent alot of talent for carson lol..did you watch 2005?
    =====================================

    Maybe it was Carson that made those players. 85 hasn’t done squat without him, and Housh really didn’t either a year removed from catching 90+ balls from Palmer. Chris Henry was always a journeyman receiver that never reached his full potential.

  585. Seymour Bush Says:

    MistaBrown Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 1:31 pm

    As we all know Glenn is a certified derelict. Under which alias did he say this ?
    ======================================

    Did you bump your head again Jamista Clown?

  586. MistaBrown Says:

    Yes I bumped my head on your moms chin and dislocated her jaw, so what ?
    ______

    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 1:23 pm

    Glenn said…chad tj and henry werent alot of talent for carson lol..did you watch 2005?

  587. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    I’m pretty sure KrappyRat already has a crush on the Octomom

    He probably thinks he’s still got his lady’s man charm and she’d find him irresistible.

    After all, what porn babe wouldn’t love an old, broke, unemployed realtor who hangs out on a football blog

    But hey, if his weak old game worked with a sow with a bowl cut, why wouldn’t it work on a pale nut job with 18 kids

  588. MistaBrown Says:

    See post 586.
    lol sorry B
    ______

    Seymour Bush Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 1:33 pm

    Did you bump your head again Jamista Clown?

  589. DutchRaider77 Says:

    @Seymour Bush

    What do you think Palmer’s problem was two years ago? Looked like crap, especially the thanksgiving game! Think the receivers were running their own routes? Seemed like he got better when Ocho and Ownens were not playing?

  590. Seymour Bush Says:

    MistaBrown Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 1:35 pm
    Yes I bumped my head on your moms chin and dislocated her jaw, so what ?
    ==================================

    At least you admit it. But what really happened is one of those elderly Vietnamese ladies hit you over the head with a bottle and took your cans again. Another $1.70 down the drain. You could have almost gotten a forty ouncer for that.

  591. Seymour Bush Says:

    DutchRaider77 Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
    @Seymour Bush

    What do you think Palmer’s problem was two years ago?
    ===========================================

    Honestly, I think he tired of Mike Brown and the Bungholes promising to bring guys in and then not delivering. All the good players over there like 85, or Justin Smith or Palmer for that matter they don’t keep. Sure the new kids came in and played well last year, but they will learn soon enough that Mike Brown does not give a crap about winning and losing. He only cares about how much money HE personally makes off the team. And those players will sour and Cinncy will go back to being awful like they have been for 20 years.

  592. MistaBrown Says:

    PeyMour shouldn’t you be helping KK sweep the barbershop?

  593. TxRaider210 Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
    DutchRaider77 Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
    @Seymour Bush

    What do you think Palmer’s problem was two years ago?
    ===========================================

    Honestly, I think he tired of Mike Brown and the Bungholes promising to bring guys in and then not delivering. All the good players over there like 85, or Justin Smith or Palmer for that matter they don’t keep. Sure the new kids came in and played well last year, but they will learn soon enough that Mike Brown does not give a crap about winning and losing. He only cares about how much money HE personally makes off the team. And those players will sour and Cinncy will go back to being awful like they have been for 20 years.

    ———————–
    Agreed. Dalton, Green and a few other good players will see, in time, that the bungholes are who we thought they were.

  594. Method To My Madness Says:

    584.Seymour Bush Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 1:23 pm

    Glenn said…chad tj and henry werent alot of talent for carson lol..did you watch 2005?
    =====================================

    Maybe it was Carson that made those players. 85 hasn’t done squat without him, and Housh really didn’t either a year removed from catching 90+ balls from Palmer. Chris Henry was always a journeyman receiver that never reached his full potential.

    ***************

    Henry played for one team and died lol…..so those guys didnt make carson? puhleeze….you are stating false stuff man

  595. Seymour Bush Says:

    Henry played for one team and died lol…..so those guys didnt make carson? puhleeze….you are stating false stuff man
    ==========================================

    Henry’s numbers were always pedestrian at best. 85 has done nothing and Housh had one good year without Palmer. Reggie Kelly? Rudi Johnson? No one on D? What does that tell you?

  596. The Big Banana Says:

    I value his direct reports on what he sees, but his opinions are unreliable. Remember when he had DHB as the 6th best WR out of camp last year? Not that I disagree, but DHB made him eat his words with a ~1000 yard season.

    ____________

    Or when he said Boss would catch more passes than Zach?

  597. KoolKell Says:

    Who will have a bigger breakout year: Huff or Branch?
    by AJ 12:11 PM
    ——————————————
    Michael Huff. He will be used more appropriately, in a manner that better fits his skills.
    by scorkran 12:12 PM

  598. Method To My Madness Says:

    595.Seymour Bush Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
    Henry played for one team and died lol…..so those guys didnt make carson? puhleeze….you are stating false stuff man
    ==========================================

    Henry’s numbers were always pedestrian at best. 85 has done nothing and Housh had one good year without Palmer. Reggie Kelly? Rudi Johnson? No one on D? What does that tell you?

    the fk has carson done without them? pedestrian as a 3rd WR while playing behind two pro bowl WRs? Amazing Glenny

    No we go to the D? Be serious please now you are reaching man

    Why mention Reggie Kelly? Carson can have Kellen Winslow and still wont pass to a TE

    you will never be able to answer what carson has done without those WRs ever

  599. DKnight007 Says:

    W’s should pick Waiters or Lillard at #7, since they will be the best players available and then try and trade up in the first round from their #30 pick to snatch Vandy SF Jeff Taylor!

  600. Method To My Madness Says:

    Henry’s problems were outside of the stadium….glenny you saying that about him shows you are off on this one my man

  601. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    Good to see KrappyRat is closely following the chat then cut and pasting Q&A to the blog

    Thankfully he doesn’t have any important realtor work to attend to at 2pm on a Tuesday

    Keep acting the fool, old nerd!

  602. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Well for never practicing with & no training camp with any of the WRs, Carson came in off his couch and performed pretty decent in my book.

    That’s impressive to me.

    28/43 for 417 yards, 2 TD, 1 INT in the last game. Finished strong.

  603. Method To My Madness Says:

    599.DKnight007 Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
    W’s should pick Waiters or Lillard at #7, since they will be the best players available and then try and trade up in the first round from their #30 pick to snatch Vandy SF Jeff Taylor!

    ******************

    No…Waiters sucks man…Klay is at SG…the James Harden sixth man schit is garbage….your best 5 start…fk we need Waiters for?

    Warriors need to trade down if they cant get a vet SF….draft Harkless,Moultrie or Royce white…we need above the rim players

  604. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Palmer is going to be fine in this system with a fresh start and fast WR’s.

    Stop bashing him give the guy a chance to redeem himself with a full off season with his WR’s he will be fine.

    He is our QB so I don’t see why we cant all have high hopes about what he is going to do next year.

  605. Method To My Madness Says:

    597.KoolKell Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 1:55 pm
    Who will have a bigger breakout year: Huff or Branch?
    by AJ 12:11 PM
    ——————————————
    Michael Huff. He will be used more appropriately, in a manner that better fits his skills.
    by scorkran 12:12 PM

    *****************

    Informative Diaper Dandy…what else you gotta tell us that we dont know? That you’re an awful real estate big wig?

  606. Method To My Madness Says:

    602.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 2:00 pm
    Well for never practicing with & no training camp with any of the WRs, Carson came in off his couch and performed pretty decent in my book.

    That’s impressive to me.

    28/43 for 417 yards, 2 TD, 1 INT in the last game. Finished strong.

    ******************

    Win or loss?

  607. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    W’s need to continue to build thru the draft or blow the whole roster up.

    Curry’s ankle really scares me.

    Them, Houston & Portland are at a crossroads. All 3 have to consider trading for Dwight.

    They either get lucky & he stays, or they get rid of contracts in the end.

  608. MistaBrown Says:

    KK Munster, when the Supreme Court throws out 0hbhama care this week dont go slicing your wrist, unless you put it on youtube.

  609. Method To My Madness Says:

    604.Silverandblack666 Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
    Palmer is going to be fine in this system with a fresh start and fast WR’s.

    Stop bashing him give the guy a chance to redeem himself with a full off season with his WR’s he will be fine.

    He is our QB so I don’t see why we cant all have high hopes about what he is going to do next year.

    ***************

    Its realistic for me….he is not elite at all…he can be solid is all…he hasnt been dope in 6 years

  610. Method To My Madness Says:

    607.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
    W’s need to continue to build thru the draft or blow the whole roster up.

    Curry’s ankle really scares me.

    Them, Houston & Portland are at a crossroads. All 3 have to consider trading for Dwight.

    They either get lucky & he stays, or they get rid of contracts in the end.

    *******************

    They keep curry for this last year and he cant cut it theyll draft a replacement next draft……..I got an idea of who lol…but im bias

  611. MistaBrown Says:

    I refuse to mention the SF Warriors.

  612. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    I’m sure you’ve all heard by now that the Warriors will be moving to the Honda Center in Anaheim

    We didn’t have room for them in LA – especially not with the Raiders moving back home to Farmer’s Field – so OC is going to pull the trigger

    I’m sure I’ll check out some games but I’m not a huge development league fan

    Just keeping it real

  613. Method To My Madness Says:

    608.MistaBrown Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
    KK Munster, when the Supreme Court throws out 0hbhama care this week dont go slicing your wrist, unless you put it on youtube.

    ****************

    hahahahahahahahahahahahaha…progressive?

  614. Method To My Madness Says:

    612.The Beeech Dawg Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
    I’m sure you’ve all heard by now that the Warriors will be moving to the Honda Center in Anaheim

    We didn’t have room for them in LA – especially not with the Raiders moving back home to Farmer’s Field – so OC is going to pull the trigger

    I’m sure I’ll check out some games but I’m not a huge development league fan

    Just keeping it real

    *************

    This post makes zero sense…consider the source

  615. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
    607.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
    W’s need to continue to build thru the draft or blow the whole roster up.

    Curry’s ankle really scares me.

    Them, Houston & Portland are at a crossroads. All 3 have to consider trading for Dwight.

    They either get lucky & he stays, or they get rid of contracts in the end.

    *******************

    They keep curry for this last year and he cant cut it theyll draft a replacement next draft……..I got an idea of who lol…but im bias

    —-

    Smart money says to get something for him now before his stock drops any further..

    The new owners are gamblers, they are rumored to make a run at Dwight too..

    who knows though..

  616. Method To My Madness Says:

    611.MistaBrown Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
    I refuse to mention the SF Warriors.

    ************

    It wont even happen…theyll crawl back to Oakland and beg…its gonna be funny..the pier wont happen and Baer will punk them bad if they go by china basehead basin

  617. MistaBrown Says:

    B, how can a alleged law attorney spend 1/3 of his failed presidency on HC law that is “unconstitutional” ?

  618. McFaddens_Sneakers Says:

    What sort of improvements will AEG bring to the Coliseum.

    Someone ask this question on the chat not sure if its related to AEG but i went to the A’s game this weekend and saw a bunch of posters hang all around the coliseum raiders and A’s posters. also notice a big improvement on the beer lots of new choices. looks cool

  619. Method To My Madness Says:

    615.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 2:08 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
    607.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
    W’s need to continue to build thru the draft or blow the whole roster up.

    Curry’s ankle really scares me.

    Them, Houston & Portland are at a crossroads. All 3 have to consider trading for Dwight.

    They either get lucky & he stays, or they get rid of contracts in the end.

    *******************

    They keep curry for this last year and he cant cut it theyll draft a replacement next draft……..I got an idea of who lol…but im bias

    —-

    Smart money says to get something for him now before his stock drops any further..

    The new owners are gamblers, they are rumored to make a run at Dwight too..

    who knows though..

    **************

    New owners are idiots and big talkers with nada to show for it

  620. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Yea but if you can shed contracts and generate revenue for a year with the slight chance of convincing Dwight to stay.. Why not.

  621. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    *************

    This post makes zero sense…consider the source

    ———-

    Genital, you doubt the Certified Platinum Posse?

    That’s like saying the Mexican Mafia are a bunch of Broadway showgirls

  622. Method To My Madness Says:

    617.MistaBrown Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 2:08 pm
    B, how can a alleged law attorney spend 1/3 of his failed presidency on HC law that is “unconstitutional” ?

    ******************

    I dunno but he can dance and shoot hoops

  623. Method To My Madness Says:

    621.The Beeech Dawg Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
    *************

    This post makes zero sense…consider the source

    ———-

    Genital, you doubt the Certified Platinum Posse?

    That’s like saying the Mexican Mafia are a bunch of Broadway showgirls

    *********************

    Yeah they are…I said it…anyone that does what they do are Broadway showgirls…they terrorize folks and hurt their own

  624. Method To My Madness Says:

    618.McFaddens_Sneakers Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
    What sort of improvements will AEG bring to the Coliseum.

    Someone ask this question on the chat not sure if its related to AEG but i went to the A’s game this weekend and saw a bunch of posters hang all around the coliseum raiders and A’s posters. also notice a big improvement on the beer lots of new choices. looks cool

    *************

    I was there Saturday…Fat Tires all day!

    But I dont think AEG takes over until the first of july

  625. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Anyone playing in a 10 team fantasy football league this year?..

  626. Method To My Madness Says:

    620.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
    Yea but if you can shed contracts and generate revenue for a year with the slight chance of convincing Dwight to stay.. Why not.

    *******************

    Damn Howard in Oakland…..he can go stink it up in Houston for all I care…if he was a man he would take on the challenge of being a face for the Nets in Brooklyn

  627. Method To My Madness Says:

    Mista….Bush did it! Odumba cant do nada because of Bush..you know the retard? The Prez cant do better than a coked out drunk thrown in eh?

  628. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “Mista….Bush did it! Odumba cant do nada because of Bush..you know the retard? The Prez cant do better than a coked out drunk thrown in eh?”

    I hate both parties all they do is argue point fingers and play the blame game. Meanwhile nothing gets done in Washington and we all suffer because of it.

    Both parties over the last 60-80 years have got us into this debt and I just don’t see either party too concerned about getting us out of debt if you ask me!

  629. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    Genital, you know the Beeech Diggity used to roll with all kinds of Mexican Mafia homeboys

    I’ll send a few over to Cousin the Genital’s next game in the Bahamas, they can try out your cooking

    They like their eggs runny and toast extra dry, don’t get it wrong or you’ll be in a world of hurt

  630. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
    620.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
    Yea but if you can shed contracts and generate revenue for a year with the slight chance of convincing Dwight to stay.. Why not.

    *******************

    Damn Howard in Oakland…..he can go stink it up in Houston for all I care…if he was a man he would take on the challenge of being a face for the Nets in Brooklyn

    —-

    Pshh.. If he was a man he would stay in Orlando.

  631. Method To My Madness Says:

    629.The Beeech Dawg Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 2:24 pm
    Genital, you know the Beeech Diggity used to roll with all kinds of Mexican Mafia homeboys

    I’ll send a few over to Cousin the Genital’s next game in the Bahamas, they can try out your cooking

    They like their eggs runny and toast extra dry, don’t get it wrong or you’ll be in a world of hurt

    ***************

    Hmm seems like you know what the Mexican Mafia likes cooked….speaking from experience eh Beecher? Being their bottom bunk buddy had it perks huh closet guy?

  632. Method To My Madness Says:

    630.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
    620.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
    Yea but if you can shed contracts and generate revenue for a year with the slight chance of convincing Dwight to stay.. Why not.

    *******************

    Damn Howard in Oakland…..he can go stink it up in Houston for all I care…if he was a man he would take on the challenge of being a face for the Nets in Brooklyn

    —-

    Pshh.. If he was a man he would stay in Orlando.

    ********************

    Yeah that too but if he wants a huge market dont go to LA or beg for that…be face of Nets with Deron Williams

  633. KoolKell Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 2:03 pm
    *****************

    Informative Diaper Dandy…what else you gotta tell us that we dont know? That you’re an awful real estate big wig?
    ——————————————
    What kind of work do you do? Lol.

  634. Method To My Madness Says:

    628.Silverandblack666 Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 2:24 pm
    “Mista….Bush did it! Odumba cant do nada because of Bush..you know the retard? The Prez cant do better than a coked out drunk thrown in eh?”

    I hate both parties all they do is argue point fingers and play the blame game. Meanwhile nothing gets done in Washington and we all suffer because of it.

    Both parties over the last 60-80 years have got us into this debt and I just don’t see either party too concerned about getting us out of debt if you ask me!

    *********

    yeah but one party is painted as the good guys when that iant the truth..thats my problem…and many blacks or sellouts like kell under illusion they care

  635. Method To My Madness Says:

    633.KoolKell Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 2:28 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 2:03 pm
    *****************

    Informative Diaper Dandy…what else you gotta tell us that we dont know? That you’re an awful real estate big wig?
    ——————————————
    What kind of work do you do? Lol.
    *******************

    Something way more productive that not getting deals year after year at K&A

  636. Silverandblack666 Says:

    The old president wanted to start a war and the opposing party was against it so they fought about it for a few years and nothing got done in Washington.

    The new president wanted everyone to have health care the opposing party wants nothing to do with it except to fight it so they spend a few years fighting about it and again nothing gets done in Washington.

    Meanwhile a sh!tload of people are out of work and no one in Washington cares.

    People need to wake up the Democrats and Republicans do not care about you they care about their party, elections and making sure the other party looks bad.

  637. KoolKell Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 2:03 pm
    *****************

    Informative Diaper Dandy…what else you gotta tell us that we dont know? That you’re an awful real estate big wig?
    ——————————————
    What kind of work do you do? Brien

  638. Method To My Madness Says:

    than*

  639. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
    630.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
    620.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
    Yea but if you can shed contracts and generate revenue for a year with the slight chance of convincing Dwight to stay.. Why not.

    *******************

    Damn Howard in Oakland…..he can go stink it up in Houston for all I care…if he was a man he would take on the challenge of being a face for the Nets in Brooklyn

    —-

    Pshh.. If he was a man he would stay in Orlando.

    ********************

    Yeah that too but if he wants a huge market dont go to LA or beg for that…be face of Nets with Deron Williams

    —-

    Market size is overrated.

    He has the #5 selling jersey in the WORLD while in Orlando.

    #1 arena in the NBA. Owner with infinite pockets. No state taxes.

    He is just taking the coward way out. Miami is making all these stars want it the easy way.

  640. Method To My Madness Says:

    Kell i just have a regular desk job…im a regular guy…i havent went all over the world and denied my blackness becuz i sold a few houses with my white wife’s help of course

  641. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “Informative Diaper Dandy”

    LMFAO right now about that!

  642. Method To My Madness Says:

    639.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
    630.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
    620.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
    Yea but if you can shed contracts and generate revenue for a year with the slight chance of convincing Dwight to stay.. Why not.

    *******************

    Damn Howard in Oakland…..he can go stink it up in Houston for all I care…if he was a man he would take on the challenge of being a face for the Nets in Brooklyn

    —-

    Pshh.. If he was a man he would stay in Orlando.

    ********************

    Yeah that too but if he wants a huge market dont go to LA or beg for that…be face of Nets with Deron Williams

    —-

    Market size is overrated.

    He has the #5 selling jersey in the WORLD while in Orlando.

    #1 arena in the NBA. Owner with infinite pockets. No state taxes.

    He is just taking the coward way out. Miami is making all these stars want it the easy way.

    ************

    Wasnt easy for Miami…..but these guys want something bigger than orlando..eventho ithink orlando is cool

  643. KoolKell Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 2:30 pm

    Kell i just have a regular desk job…im a regular guy…i havent went all over the world and denied my blackness becuz i sold a few houses with my white wife’s help of course
    ————————————
    So you’re at work right now? What kind of work?

  644. Method To My Madness Says:

    641.Silverandblack666 Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
    “Informative Diaper Dandy”

    LMFAO right now about that!

    ****************

    Mr Hanky aka UnKoolFailKell

  645. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
    639.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
    630.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
    620.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
    Yea but if you can shed contracts and generate revenue for a year with the slight chance of convincing Dwight to stay.. Why not.

    *******************

    Damn Howard in Oakland…..he can go stink it up in Houston for all I care…if he was a man he would take on the challenge of being a face for the Nets in Brooklyn

    —-

    Pshh.. If he was a man he would stay in Orlando.

    ********************

    Yeah that too but if he wants a huge market dont go to LA or beg for that…be face of Nets with Deron Williams

    —-

    Market size is overrated.

    He has the #5 selling jersey in the WORLD while in Orlando.

    #1 arena in the NBA. Owner with infinite pockets. No state taxes.

    He is just taking the coward way out. Miami is making all these stars want it the easy way.

    ************

    Wasnt easy for Miami…..but these guys want something bigger than orlando..eventho ithink orlando is cool

    —-

    Meh.. It will get easier when they get Ray Allen & Andre Miller this off-season..

  646. Method To My Madness Says:

    643.KoolKell Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 2:30 pm

    Kell i just have a regular desk job…im a regular guy…i havent went all over the world and denied my blackness becuz i sold a few houses with my white wife’s help of course
    ————————————
    So you’re at work right now? What kind of work?
    ***********************

    I sell dime bags as you said years ago….i hustle nickel bags in parking lots

  647. KoolKell Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 2:30 pm

    Kell i just have a regular desk job…im a regular guy…i havent went all over the world and denied my blackness becuz i sold a few houses with my white wife’s help of course
    ————————————
    So you’re at work right now eh? What kind of work?

  648. Method To My Madness Says:

    But Kell question is…when is the last time you have worked? We’re waiting

  649. KoolKell Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 2:30 pm

    Kell i just have a regular desk job…im a regular guy…i havent went all over the world and denied my blackness becuz i sold a few houses with my white wife’s help of course
    ————————————
    So you’re at work right now eh? What kind of work. Pootbutt?

  650. Method To My Madness Says:

    Kell you must wanna hire me…..so can i be your protege at K&A…where I’ll be doing um say NOTHING like you?

  651. Method To My Madness Says:

    Kell i have put on here numerous times…yet you dismiss it…for real man come on…do you harrass Chris Ransom like this when he beats you to another deal?

  652. KoolKell Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 2:37 pm

    Kell you must wanna hire me…..so can i be your protege at K&A…where I’ll be doing um say NOTHING like you?
    ————————————
    You’re always talking about my work. Just wondering what you do for a living, do tell.

  653. Method To My Madness Says:

    652.KoolKell Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 2:37 pm

    Kell you must wanna hire me…..so can i be your protege at K&A…where I’ll be doing um say NOTHING like you?
    ————————————
    You’re always talking about my work. Just wondering what you do for a living, do tell.

    ********************

    Well you dont work Kell thats the thing…we talk about your former occupation before heading into Signature Living in alameda

  654. KoolKell Says:

    Alrighty then, I guess you don’t work, because you post on here on avg of every 2 minutes all day. Never mind.

  655. Method To My Madness Says:

    And Kell you never seen me bragging about my work and how i am better than others becuz of making hella money or flying on the Concorde to England like you have

  656. Method To My Madness Says:

    654.KoolKell Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
    Alrighty then, I guess you don’t work, because you post on here on avg of every 2 minutes all day. Never mind.

    ***************

    all day? lol…yeah sure kell…its typical office work in the IT field ya get it….ever heard of multitasking? no multiple tasking isnt being able to slide your bvd’s down and wipe you old ass correctly Kell

  657. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Outro.

  658. Method To My Madness Says:

    Kell how many times you see me here on weekend? night time? We always see you Mr Rich man

  659. KoolKell Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 2:43 pm

    And Kell you never seen me bragging about my work and how i am better than others becuz of making hella money or flying on the Concorde to England like you have
    ——————————-
    You talk about my work and travels more than I do. I know it gets to you and Beecham, sorry man.

  660. Method To My Madness Says:

    peace Duecer

  661. Silverandblack666 Says:

    I am a lowly janitor I clean the toilets at the Taco Bell I aspire to one day be an assistant manager. This may seem like menial labor to most of you.

    BUT compared to Sandusky44 I am a successful business man with a bright future!

  662. KoolKell Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 2:45 pm

    Kell how many times you see me here on weekend? night time? We always see you Mr Rich man
    ——————————-
    Oh, so you work nights and weekends?

  663. Method To My Madness Says:

    659.KoolKell Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 2:43 pm

    And Kell you never seen me bragging about my work and how i am better than others becuz of making hella money or flying on the Concorde to England like you have
    ——————————-
    You talk about my work and travels more than I do. I know it gets to you and Beecham, sorry man.
    *************

    Actually if you have traveled I’m not even upset becuz everyone should have that chance…my issue is your constant negativity and how you bring this site down. You’re a miserable old man and you show your elitist step n fetch negro attitude on here as if you are someone important.

    You hurl accusations at others when they arent on here yet you cry when its done to you

    I called you on the phone and you cried like a whiny btch who lost her tampon

    Get over yourself

  664. Method To My Madness Says:

    662.KoolKell Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 2:45 pm

    Kell how many times you see me here on weekend? night time? We always see you Mr Rich man
    ——————————-
    Oh, so you work nights and weekends?

    **********************

    Moronic fool lol…..is that what you got out of that?

  665. TxRaider210 Says:

    I’m glad Cork thinks Bartell will be a good player this year. Dude seems to tackle well, jump routes and play physical.

  666. Method To My Madness Says:

    661.Silverandblack666 Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
    I am a lowly janitor I clean the toilets at the Taco Bell I aspire to one day be an assistant manager. This may seem like menial labor to most of you.

    BUT compared to Sandusky44 I am a successful business man with a bright future!

    *************

    hahahahaha

  667. Method To My Madness Says:

    665.TxRaider210 Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
    I’m glad Cork thinks Bartell will be a good player this year. Dude seems to tackle well, jump routes and play physical.

    888888888888888888

    me too mayne

  668. Silverandblack666 Says:

    667
    Neighbor of the beast!

  669. KoolKell Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 2:50 pm

    Actually if you have traveled I’m not even upset becuz everyone should have that chance…my issue is your constant negativity and how you bring this site down. You’re a miserable old man and you show your elitist step n fetch negro attitude on here as if you are someone important.

    You hurl accusations at others when they arent on here yet you cry when its done to you

    I called you on the phone and you cried like a whiny btch who lost her tampon

    Get over yourself
    ———————————-
    Really, you talk about me all day, while I’m not here. You’re lying dude.

  670. Method To My Madness Says:

    Kell…i have stuff to do on nights and weekends…i work weekdays…ya know the normal like most people in corp america

  671. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “You hurl accusations at others when they arent on here yet you cry when its done to you”

    This is so true its almost like you and Sully44 are twins…..in an arnold schwarzenegger-Danny Divito kind of way

  672. Method To My Madness Says:

    669.KoolKell Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 2:50 pm

    Actually if you have traveled I’m not even upset becuz everyone should have that chance…my issue is your constant negativity and how you bring this site down. You’re a miserable old man and you show your elitist step n fetch negro attitude on here as if you are someone important.

    You hurl accusations at others when they arent on here yet you cry when its done to you

    I called you on the phone and you cried like a whiny btch who lost her tampon

    Get over yourself
    ———————————-
    Really, you talk about me all day, while I’m not here. You’re lying dude.

    *********************

    All day? You are such a liar…remember you said naacp wasnt started by white ppl? lol

    they got hella posts where u mention me?….remember 2010 you said your sources said i was in jail?

  673. TxRaider210 Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
    665.TxRaider210 Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
    I’m glad Cork thinks Bartell will be a good player this year. Dude seems to tackle well, jump routes and play physical.

    888888888888888888

    me too mayne
    ——————-
    I really look forward to the game in ATL, since he played those guys a lot. Maybe he’ll run Turner down and rake the ball out again.lol

  674. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Last night KK and Sandusky44 were flirting with each other on the blog.

  675. KoolKell Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 2:53 pm

    Kell…i have stuff to do on nights and weekends…i work weekdays…ya know the normal like most people in corp america
    ————————————
    Doing what. What could you possibly be doing at work right now?

  676. Method To My Madness Says:

    671.Silverandblack666 Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 2:53 pm
    “You hurl accusations at others when they arent on here yet you cry when its done to you”

    This is so true its almost like you and Sully44 are twins…..in an arnold schwarzenegger-Danny Divito kind of way

    ************

    roast!

  677. Method To My Madness Says:

    675.KoolKell Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 2:53 pm

    Kell…i have stuff to do on nights and weekends…i work weekdays…ya know the normal like most people in corp america
    ————————————
    Doing what. What could you possibly be doing at work right now?
    ****************

    IT related stuff…put it this way I do a job your old bad bowels couldnt handle

  678. KoolKell Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 2:53 pm

    Kell…i have stuff to do on nights and weekends…i work weekdays…ya know the normal like most people in corp america
    ————————————
    Doing what. What could you possibly be doing at work right now, Brien?

  679. Method To My Madness Says:

    kell i have period throughout year when im on hella much and then im nowhere to be found…ya know people have that ability right?

  680. Method To My Madness Says:

    stop reposting failkell…its sad

  681. Silverandblack666 Says:

    B

    This is what I posted last night when I was KK and Sully44 holding hands under the blog light night:

    Look at you two flirting on the blog. You would make a perfect couple Sully44 and KK riding off in the sunset, a two troll bromance built on hate for Al Davis and lying about people on the Blog.

    Sully44 could finally get the street cred he so desperately desires from black guys in Oakland for dating KK even if he is older than dirt.

    KK can have someone to changes his diapers makes sure he takes his Metamucil everyday and give him sponge baths. You two are perfect for each other.

  682. Silverandblack666 Says:

    I work in Hi-Tech and it is acceptable to chat as most use it as a means of interoffice communication.

    Posting on a Blog is not frowned upon here or most Hi-Tech work environments.

  683. Silverandblack666 Says:

    This is what I posted last night when I saw*

  684. Method To My Madness Says:

    Kell this is why you are really mad………..

    In 2008 I tore your lil playhouse down in here…I’m a young black guy that thinks for himself and doesnt kiss your wrinkled old ass on many topics including Al Davis and things related to politics and black people in general

    You had a free run saying what you wanted and then got checked on it.

    You hate the fact I actually go to games and show my face and have some people onthe blog that enjoy my posts while they hate yours

    I’m not a black progressive and that makes you house nggas mad

    It further infuriates you that I dont support that dummy in the White House and can see thru his BS…you no different than the stooge negroes like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackass who pretend they are about the biz but really arent….just double agents

  685. Method To My Madness Says:

    682.Silverandblack666 Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
    I work in Hi-Tech and it is acceptable to chat as most use it as a means of interoffice communication.

    Posting on a Blog is not frowned upon here or most Hi-Tech work environments.

    ******************

    Kell doesnt believe you can post on blog and get your work done at same time…..50s mode of thinking

  686. KoolKell Says:

    Whatever dudette.

  687. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “For the sixth time this year, a Detroit Lion has been arrested.”

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/06/26/lions-aaron-berry-arrested-for-dui/

    So glad this is not us the media would have a field day!

  688. Method To My Madness Says:

    Kell….why dont we have a test?….let’s you and me both not post until the final rosters are set for the Raiders 2012 season

    Wonder how many people will be happy to see you back versus me

    Deal or no deal?

  689. KoolKell Says:

    Kell doesnt believe you can post on blog and get your work done at same time…..50s mode of thinking
    —————————————
    Ne Way in Hell, you can blog all day and work for a corporation. No Way In Hell.

    But keep frontin, if thats what you need to do.

  690. KoolKell Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 3:06 pm

    Kell….why dont we have a test?….let’s you and me both not post until the final rosters are set for the Raiders 2012 season

    Wonder how many people will be happy to see you back versus me

    Deal or no deal?
    —————————————–
    I gradusted from high school a loooooong time ago, Brien.

  691. Method To My Madness Says:

    686.KoolKell Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
    Whatever dudette.

    *************

    To translate for everyone…Kell is admitting defeat again and getting hammered by the B auce….new thinking young black people such as myself scare the living schit outta your old dated crony upper crust ass kissing Toms

    You talk racism on others yet hurl racist things to Raider O and MistaBrown

    You said we were jealous of that pudgy smelly ex wife of yours becuz she was white when no one gives a schit what color she was…all we know is she has bad taste in men becuz you sir are the biggest truck of horse schit we have ever encountered on the net

    You were so bitter than when everyone was having fun with Code Black you went negative then your dumbass said….”For what it is worth…CODE Black”

    Tell me I’m lying you old phaggot?

  692. KoolKell Says:

    * I graduated from high school a loooooong time ago, Brien.

  693. Method To My Madness Says:

    689.KoolKell Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
    Kell doesnt believe you can post on blog and get your work done at same time…..50s mode of thinking
    —————————————
    Ne Way in Hell, you can blog all day and work for a corporation. No Way In Hell.

    But keep frontin, if thats what you need to do.

    ****************

    You outdated way of thinking is exactly why we all hate your guts and cant wait for you to kick the can….Al Davis shoulda have been allowed to live just a few more years and you should have been the one to take the dirt nap

  694. Method To My Madness Says:

    690.KoolKell Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 3:06 pm

    Kell….why dont we have a test?….let’s you and me both not post until the final rosters are set for the Raiders 2012 season

    Wonder how many people will be happy to see you back versus me

    Deal or no deal?
    —————————————–
    I gradusted from high school a loooooong time ago, Brien.

    **************************

    Class of 33

  695. KoolKell Says:

    Lol.

  696. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “I gradusted from high school a loooooong time ago, Brien.”

    LMAO I cant be the only one who caught this?

  697. Method To My Madness Says:

    Kell any words for lying about your sources saying I was in jail in 2010?

    Notice you cant speak up for that

    You have selective amnesia…typical btch move with your high pitched voice…remember you saying..”your not black motherfker, youre a stalker btch”? Yeah

    And on top remember when I offered a truce? What did ya two 24 hours later after agreeing? Thanks you lil moist snatch of a man

  698. Method To My Madness Says:

    696.Silverandblack666 Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
    “I gradusted from high school a loooooong time ago, Brien.”

    LMAO I cant be the only one who caught this?

    *******************

    Yeah they had 10 ppl in his graduating class from the special ed dept

  699. Method To My Madness Says:

    anyhow…ill be right back

  700. KoolKell Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 3:16 pm

    anyhow…ill be right back
    ——————————
    Important business meeting, I suppose. Lmao.

  701. KoolKell Says:

    666, are you hiding until Brien comes back?

  702. Silverandblack666 Says:

    No I am here

    Did you miss the attention do you need me to reel off a few diaper jokes for you?

  703. KoolKell Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 3:28 pm

    No I am here

    Did you miss the attention do you need me to reel off a few diaper jokes for you?
    ————————————–
    Sure, let’s hear em. ;-)

  704. TxRaider210 Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 3:34 pm
    Silverandblack666 Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 3:28 pm

    No I am here

    Did you miss the attention do you need me to reel off a few diaper jokes for you?
    ————————————–
    Sure, let’s hear em.
    —————–
    KK’s diaper is a dual purpose necessity for him, as it keeps his turds in a bundle and his nads off the ground.:)

  705. KoolKell Says:

    KK’s diaper is a dual purpose necessity for him, as it keeps his turds in a bundle and his nads off the ground.:)
    ————————————-
    Whohoho Hahahaha Lololol. That was a good one.

  706. Silverandblack666 Says:

    What kind of underwear do senior citizens wear?

    Depends.

    What’s the manliest diaper you could wear?

    Thuggies.

    Why didn’t the nurse change the old mans diapers for a week?

    Because the text on the diapers package said ‘18-40 lbs’.

    How many NASA engineers does it take to change a light bulb?

    None, light bulbs don’t wear diapers

    Politicians are like diapers. They should be changed often and for the same reason.

  707. Sullivan44 Says:

    Code Black was retarded. Slogans don’t win football games. Well organized teams with solid football players (not track stars) do.

  708. KoolKell Says:

    :-(

  709. Silverandblack666 Says:

    MR you should write a movie script about Blog bullies and the effect it has on their victims personal lives.

    I feel you could really connect with this subject matter and give us an inside look into the pain Blog bullies cause people like you.

  710. KoolKell Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 3:49 pm

    MR you should write a movie script about Blog bullies and the effect it has on their victims personal lives.

    I feel you could really connect with this subject matter and give us an inside look into the pain Blog bullies cause people like you.
    ———————————
    Did he make any personal comments about you, for the record?

  711. TxRaider210 Says:

    Was Cork able to answer some of yall’s questions today? I got a couple in..

  712. MistaBrown Says:

    Nailed it.
    _____

    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 3:03 pm

    Kell this is why you are really mad………..

    In 2008 I tore your lil playhouse down in here…I’m a young black guy that thinks for himself and doesnt kiss your wrinkled old ass on many topics including Al Davis and things related to politics and black people in general

    You had a free run saying what you wanted and then got checked on it.

    You hate the fact I actually go to games and show my face and have some people onthe blog that enjoy my posts while they hate yours

    I’m not a black progressive and that makes you house nggas mad

    It further infuriates you that I dont support that dummy in the White House and can see thru his BS…you no different than the stooge negroes like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackass who pretend they are about the biz but really arent….just double agents

  713. KoolKell Says:

    666, he was talking football and your dumbass chimes in with a personal attack, for the record.

    So, let’s be fair.

  714. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “Did he make any personal comments about you, for the record?”

    Every single day weather I am here or not!

  715. KoolKell Says:

    Later Gents.

  716. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Ok

    So I am willing to be nice and bury the hatchet if you are.

    Are you calling a truce?

  717. MistaBrown Says:

    KK, finish your can of pork n beans and comeback with a netter attitude, if possible.

    666, did you notice KK only fights with you on this alias? When you are on your SeymourBush alias you guys are spooning buddies.

  718. MistaBrown Says:

    *better

  719. TxRaider210 Says:

    Pork n beans, a side of Vienna sausages and old skool apple juice(peel off lid) spiked with a serving of metamucil. mmmm mm

  720. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    did I read the Q&A correctly? does ESPN expect Oak’s D to be worse than last year (wooooow!)and their reason behind this is because Routt left?

    these people are ignorant beyond humor.

  721. TxRaider210 Says:

    Bartell>Routt all day!

  722. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    man, Routt’s only shout to fame is the STATS inc numbers Al’s cronies pimped to the press…Routt will follow the Jerry Porter route, 1 year on another team then out of the league.

  723. MistaBrown Says:

    For the first time in 25 years or more our defense will be led by 1 voice and be on the same page since day 1. I expect a huge improvement, the sky is the limit.

    With all due respect to AL and his legacy but our defense was a debacle because he meddled too damn much.

  724. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    Tommy Kelly knows the Jerry Porter route, that’s why he is hoping against hope he doesn’t get cut this training camp… Reggie Mac will cut the fat!

  725. The Big Banana Says:

    Routt thinks there’s a Chiefs Nation. Lol

  726. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    We can blame Al all you want. But just not having Chuky B will improve our D… you could have Slowlando calling the plays last year and the D would not have sucked as much.

  727. Plunketthead Says:

    643.KoolKell Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
    ————————————
    So you’re at work right now? What kind of work?

    I realize you are not talking to me however you might find it interesting that I work at the Kwik E Mart.
    If you are ever in Peehoe Arizona, stop in and I can sell you a 18 pack of PBR at 12 pack prices.

    Because thats how I roll

  728. TxRaider210 Says:

    Routt will be burned several times by DMoore and others this year imo.

  729. Seymour Bush Says:

    MistaBrown Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
    KK, finish your can of pork n beans and comeback with a netter attitude,
    ==========================

    Maybe you could stop huffin’ the bag of glue long enough to let the fumes eke out your dome.

  730. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    if defensive coaches were cars, Bellicheat would be a 2012 Ferrari, Chuky B would be a little hot wheels stuck in the toilet full of crap!

  731. TxRaider210 Says:

    Seems that Routt thinks he’s a SS or LB, if the WR gets a step he hangs on for the ride, and penalty.

  732. Sullivan44 Says:

    666, are you asking me for a truce? My answer would be no. I like you as an enemy. I CHOOSE you as an enemy. I see it as sparring practice for more worthy competitors.

  733. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    before the snap Routt likes to look around, raise his hands and ask his teammates wtf he should do. after the snap he likes to run toward the RB once he knows he is toast, this way the STATS inc mathematicians can’s blame him for the WRs catch…. Routt wil get burned routinely, should be 4th string by week 9.

  734. Seymour Bush Says:

    TxRaider210 Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 4:23 pm

    Seems that Routt thinks he’s a SS or LB, if the WR gets a step he hangs on for the ride, and penalty.
    ======================================

    I was going to say, Routt sure doesn’t tackle like a SS or LB. In fact, he doesn’t tackle anyone.

  735. Sullivan44 Says:

    Al not at fault for D, huh?

    Schweigert
    Sapp
    now Huff, all saying otherwise.

    And Gannon, a league MVP, has said as much.

    Name any other team that’s had this many players all attest to a chaotic and outdated system.

  736. Sullivan44 Says:

    And this is just the modern era.

    You have Marcus Allen, team trainer Dr. Huzienga, and Mike Shannahan attesting to the same meddling by Al in the ’80s.

  737. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    Hey, Al wasnt there for the second half of last season…and I agree, Al was responsible for the D’s decades of poor play, but just not having Chuky B will improve this D immensely.

  738. TxRaider210 Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
    TxRaider210 Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 4:23 pm

    Seems that Routt thinks he’s a SS or LB, if the WR gets a step he hangs on for the ride, and penalty.
    ======================================

    I was going to say, Routt sure doesn’t tackle like a SS or LB. In fact, he doesn’t tackle anyone.
    ———————
    I meant he “thinks” he is, but fails miserably.lol

  739. Sullivan44 Says:

    You can try to discredit Schweigert, Sapp, Huff, and Rich Gannon all you want to. Just name one other team in the league where this many former players have come out and said the SAME THING about the owner meddling and screwing up game plans and schemes.

    Calling b.s. when one guy claims it? Fine.

    When two guys claim it? You’re slipping into denial.

    three? You’re a shill.

    Four? You’re retarded.

  740. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    who the hell are you talking to Sully?

  741. Sullivan44 Says:

    And, btw, 666 fits into the latter category, re: post 739

  742. TxRaider210 Says:

    I don;t believe anything Sapp says, but Cork did mention players talking about it every year.

  743. TxRaider210 Says:

    don’t*

  744. Sullivan44 Says:

    Who are you talking to, Randy?

  745. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    I talking to you, hence your name on the sentence.

  746. Sullivan44 Says:

    Tx,

    Denying one player’s claims is fine.

    two players claims? you’re in denial.

    three player’s claims? you’re a shill for the team.

    four? You’re a retard. Period.

  747. Sullivan44 Says:

    Yeah, you’re talking to me. Because clearly what I’m saying is relevant and significant. Otherwise you wouldn’t bother.

  748. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    Very significant and dire indeed.

  749. DutchRaider77 Says:

    Not disagreeing about the ramifications of Al Davis input into the D, but Schweigert blamed the scheme as to why he looked so bad. Left the Raiders, joined the Redskins and still looked bad in their scheme and then retired.

  750. Sullivan44 Says:

    Dutch, like I said, it’s one thing to question the credibility of one player. But when 4 guys say the same thing, one of them a flippin’ league MVP, it’s you who’s full of crap, not them.

  751. TxRaider210 Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
    Tx,

    Denying one player’s claims is fine.

    two players claims? you’re in denial.

    three player’s claims? you’re a shill for the team.

    four? You’re a retard. Period.
    —————————
    I’m not denying anything, I said that Cork mentioned players have griped about it for years.

  752. Sullivan44 Says:

    Gannon’s credibility is impeccable.

  753. TxRaider210 Says:

    So what exactly is Saunder’s duty, if Knapp has the wheel on offense?

  754. Raidernationdave Says:

    I missed this afternoon’s love fest with Steve. How’d it go Beyotches!

    Whut up PMPP.

  755. TxRaider210 Says:

    Went decent..said he likes Bartell, Burris , Stupar and of course Criner.

  756. Raidernationdave Says:

    Watchin’ “World’s Dumbest” on TruTV right now. Gearing up for the premiere of “Hardcore Porn” tonight at 9.

    Bong hits, Beers, and the boob tube. America, what a country!

    Holla!

  757. Sullivan44 Says:

    Denying the claims of several people making the same charge is borderline immoral. It’s hostile. It goes beyond mere stubbornness.

  758. TxRaider210 Says:

    Cork still doesn’t see Spencer as the answer, said we may add a DB after cuts.

  759. Sullivan44 Says:

    Hardcore “Pawn”. Unless of course we have a Freudian slip.

  760. Sullivan44 Says:

    I like the old dude on Hardcore Pawn. Hard core Detroiter. But I think a lot of it’s staged. Some of the fights are Jerry Springer ridiculous. No real punches thrown, just the “hold me back” stuff.

  761. Raidernationdave Says:

    Freudian type.

    +++++++++++++++

    Sullivan44 Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 4:51 pm

    Hardcore “Pawn”. Unless of course we have a Freudian slip.

  762. Raidernationdave Says:

    Definitely it’s staged. You can almost see them cracking up in some of the takes before the shizzie hits the nizzie! It wouldn’t surprise me though one bit if the place actually has some fricken knuckleheads showin’ up and causin’ a major ruckus; actin’ like a fool up in there, yo!

    Holla!

  763. Plunketthead Says:

    hahaha funny you mention hardcore pawn. I am watching it for the second time.
    The daughter is one mean twat. Fugly too, uber fugly.
    She is so fat her face is disappearing.

    At first you think its staged but I have seen people act like this.

  764. Plunketthead Says:

    Now that one looked staged, the crazy women before that did not.
    The family is the worse part of the show. That has to be fake otherwise the old man would kick seth in the balls

  765. Sullivan44 Says:

    I like it when they stage the person who can’t wait in line because they’re in a hurry. Those are the phoniest ones.

  766. Sullivan44 Says:

    lap top with no power chord. lol. “it came like that”

  767. Plunketthead Says:

    Dam, the entire show is mean spirited. Everyone is giving each other dirty looks. They all hate each other.

    I think the family really is like that.

  768. Plunketthead Says:

    I will take pawn stars over this any day, wont you Sully?

    Chumlee cracks me up

  769. Sullivan44 Says:

    Anyone forcing you here by gunpoint?

  770. Sullivan44 Says:

    Some of you are hilarious. You have this bizarre, possessive attitude toward a blog that’s open to the public.

  771. DKnight007 Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 2:18 pm

    Anyone playing in a 10 team fantasy football league this year?..

    ^^^^^^^^
    Not yet. I’m in 4 12 team leagues. I’m looking to drop one and add a 10 teamer.

  772. Plunketthead Says:

    Sully
    When you talk to yourself on the blog, do you hear voices?

  773. Plunketthead Says:

    lol from hardcore

    This is the best three hundred dollars I ever spunt.

  774. Marks hair Says:

    And subway delivers me another sad sandwich.. Buy some fresh ripe veggies di(ks!!

  775. Raidernationdave Says:

    LMAO!

    ++++++++++++++

    Plunketthead Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 6:57 pm

    Sully
    When you talk to yourself on the blog, do you hear voices?

  776. Raidernationdave Says:

    Sucking down one of my favorite beers of all time, Anchor Steam. It’s one of the few good things about San Francisco.

  777. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Happy B’day Prince Valiant.

    Cut Jonny Condo!!!!!!!!!!!!

  778. KoolKell Says:

    Who else are you sucking, Dave Dumbass?

  779. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    You hamburger heads have neither class nor taste. Turn off the reality treacle (look it up)

  780. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    I owned the chat today… No one else dared mention IBA hosing this blog…or Dmacs injury

  781. Raidernationdave Says:

    I never kiss and tell Kooky Kell!

    Besides Kell, remember that time when you told your wife that you were gonna go out and look for some “new” pus8y?

    Remember what she said to you Sparky?

    “If ya’ had two mo’ inches of dick mther fcker you’d find some new pus8y right here……………beyotch!”

    Stay in your lane you fcken kook.

    +++++++++++++++++

    KoolKell Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 8:16 pm

    Who else are you sucking, Dave Dumbass?

  782. KoolKell Says:

    Lol, DaveDumbass, you’re such a bottom feeder.

  783. Raidernationdave Says:

    Then what does that make you, considering you came on up in here and started swinggin’ at me?

    Kell can I axe you a question, you Kooky Kid you?

    Have you ever had a man gently, slowly and tenderly kiss you behind the ears and around the back of your neck?

  784. KoolKell Says:

    Have you DaveDumbass?

  785. Raidernationdave Says:

    Have I what Kooky Kell?

  786. R8ER MIKE Says:

    GOOD MORNING NATION !!!
    and my GreenParty brothers !!

  787. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Watching Matt Giordano play gives me yac(k) ability..

    ***

    @DAV

    Matt Giordano = John Lynch

    get over it!

  788. hwnrdr Says:

    Good Morning Nation!!!
    Mike…what’s going on bro?
    Made a decision last night to help me get closer to making that trip up North East! Hopefully all goes well!

  789. R8ER MIKE Says:

    that will work hwnrdr ! hope to see you at the game !!
    good morning RRS.

  790. TxRaider210 Says:

    Good morning Nation! Hey JFB, Jamal Anderson busted for a DUI..didn’t you say he had a stripper “incident” the other night?lol

  791. guest123 Says:

    lol @ Matt Gio giving DAV yack ability

    I didn’t know Gio had that kind of power!

  792. guest123 Says:

    Good Morning everyone

  793. RaiderRockstar Says:

    *** Live Chat highlights ***

    Q: Will CP toss 35 TDs this season?

    A: I say more than that.

    Q: do you think Richard Gordon has any shot to claim that starting TE spot?

    A: Not much of a chance to be the starter. He lacks the speed and the pass-catching ability to be an every-down TE.

    Q: If McClain gets suspended during the season, do you think LB or secondary is our weakest area?

    A: Heck, you might make the case that the Raiders could be improved at linebacker with McClain out of the equation.

    Q: does mike mitchell make the team this year alot of new saftys in camp’

    A: He will be on the team this season. He’s too versatile and plays special teams. Oh, and he doesn’t cost much.

    Q: does Mike Mitchell remind you of Derrick Gibson ??

    A: No, he’s better than Gibson.

    Q: Steve, do you think Branch is worth $7-8 million per season ??

    A: If he plays the way he did the first 3/4 of last season, yes.

    Q: I think Branch needs to make more plays to be considered a top safety in the NFL. Can I get some forced fumbles, INT’s , passes defensed & tackles for a loss? or do we pay top dollar for 100+ tackle seasons like Gibril Wilson ???

    A: Agreed. Ouch, don’t mention Gibril Wilson in these parts.

    Q: Who will have a bigger breakout year: Huff or Branch?

    A: Michael Huff. He will be used more appropriately, in a manner that better fits his skills.

    Q: I think Ron Bartell is as good Routt if he bounces back. Your thoughts?

    A: Ron Bartell looked very, very good in the mini camps. Not worried about how he holds up at all.

  794. guest123 Says:

    Heard some talk yesterday about wildfires, and I kinda dismissed it. But Colorado Springs area is getting torched right now. Very bad news is the 55 MPH hour winds that are blowing over the high plains. I used to live there, and it’s like a tinderbox right now. Thoughts and prayers to Co. Springs.

  795. guest123 Says:

    Q: Will CP toss 35 TDs this season?

    A: I say more than that.

    *******

    I’ll take the under.

  796. guest123 Says:

    Q: do you think Richard Gordon has any shot to claim that starting TE spot?

    A: Not much of a chance to be the starter. He lacks the speed and the pass-catching ability to be an every-down TE.

    *********

    Follow up Q: Why not cut him then? If the starter is incumbent Brandon Myers and he’s slower and pass catching ability doesn’t meet Myers level, what’s the point in keeping him?

  797. guest123 Says:

    Q: If McClain gets suspended during the season, do you think LB or secondary is our weakest area?

    A: Heck, you might make the case that the Raiders could be improved at linebacker with McClain out of the equation.

    *****

    While it would great to cut McClain for his on-field play and off-field antics, we aren’t in a position to move on with him under the current salary cap constraints.

  798. guest123 Says:

    Q: does mike mitchell make the team this year alot of new saftys in camp’

    A: He will be on the team this season. He’s too versatile and plays special teams. Oh, and he doesn’t cost much.

    ********

    Go back and look at the tape of MM34. Cheap doesn’t equal valuable. Cut him.

  799. guest123 Says:

    Q: does Mike Mitchell remind you of Derrick Gibson ??

    A: No, he’s better than Gibson.

    *****

    yeah yeah…cut him.

  800. RaiderRockstar Says:

    @G123

    Rick Gordon is mean as an axe murderer and blocks better than our starting right tackle. He might be useful, since TE’s are required to block in the zbs

    not everybody has to be a clone of Ausberry, who does have “the speed and the pass-catching ability to be an every-down TE”

  801. TxRaider210 Says:

    Mitchell tends to want the big hits and over-pursue tackles imo, but his special teams play may be his only ticket to the roster.

  802. guest123 Says:

    Q: Steve, do you think Branch is worth $7-8 million per season ??

    A: If he plays the way he did the first 3/4 of last season, yes.

    **********

    So break the stalemate and sign him to a 4-5 year deal at $6M per. I think this is consensus blog opinion minus a few Branch bashers who compare him to Gibril Wilson.

  803. hwnrdr Says:

    guest123 Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 6:11 am
    Heard some talk yesterday about wildfires, and I kinda dismissed it. But Colorado Springs area is getting torched right now. Very bad news is the 55 MPH hour winds that are blowing over the high plains. I used to live there, and it’s like a tinderbox right now. Thoughts and prayers to Co. Springs.

    And apparently still burning!
    Thoughts and Prayers their way!

  804. guest123 Says:

    Q: I think Branch needs to make more plays to be considered a top safety in the NFL. Can I get some forced fumbles, INT’s , passes defensed & tackles for a loss? or do we pay top dollar for 100+ tackle seasons like Gibril Wilson ???

    A: Agreed. Ouch, don’t mention Gibril Wilson in these parts.

    *******

    Cork and Raiderrockstar the same person? This is eerie. Regardless, I disagree with both.

  805. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    POST-795.IF-IF-IF.O-LINE AND RECIEVERS AND MCFADDEN ALL STAY HEALTHY,CAN SEE THAT # REACHED.

  806. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I think this is consensus blog opinion minus a few Branch bashers who compare him to Gibril Wilson.

    ***

    LOL @ G123

    Steve agreed with that assessment!!

  807. guest123 Says:

    Q: I think Ron Bartell is as good Routt if he bounces back. Your thoughts?

    A: Ron Bartell looked very, very good in the mini camps. Not worried about how he holds up at all.

    *******

    agree with Cork here, and later Cork went on to lend zero support for Shawntae Spencer, who could be nothing but a camp body. Which is fine by me.

  808. guest123 Says:

    Post 805 – I don’t think it’s in the Raiders best interest for Carson Palmer to throw for 35+ TD’s. He’d also have at least 20+ int’s with that production. But more importantly, it would signal that the ground attack is not working because the defense has failed miserably, and CP3 is heaving the ball playing catchup. It’s not the Raiders MO to be pass heavy.

    Greg Knapp needs to continue a 55/45 run/pass split and ball control offense to eat clock and keep the defense fresh. I don’t see great QB stats as a good thing for the teams overall record.

  809. guest123 Says:

    Rick Gordon is mean as an axe murderer and blocks better than our starting right tackle. He might be useful, since TE’s are required to block in the zbs

    not everybody has to be a clone of Ausberry, who does have “the speed and the pass-catching ability to be an every-down TE”

    *********

    So you’re telling me he’s an upgrade to Barnes? Fair enough, but if you need a big ugly at the end of the line, Barnes is there and not occupying a roster spot.

  810. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Cork and Raiderrockstar the same person? This is eerie.

    ***

    Steve is money with most of his takes, unlike Jerry.

    Steve takes a lot of heat for saying that DHB was like the 5th WR in OTA’s last offseason. Thats probably because he was! Schilens, Hagan, Ford, Moore & Murphy all outshined him during the offseason. probably because DHB was battling thru injury. but guess what? Heyward-Bey got better. first 3 weeks of the season he was basically a no-show. then he the light bulb comes on and he’s a BEAST … nobody predicted that, except for RRS. Jhill was on board for a while, but last year changed his mind before the reg season started. instead of giving Cork blame , how about you give King Darrius some credit ??

  811. guest123 Says:

    instead of giving Cork blame , how about you give King Darrius some credit ??

    *********

    Yeah, will do, when pigs fly and/or Bey starts to run routes without that hitch and squareup to the QB consistently. or hell freezes.

  812. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I’m honored that you think i’m Steve Corkran, G123.

    he’s a stand up guy. However – I think he’s a Bears fan

    favorite player growing up was Gale Sayers I beleive

    he reports what he sees on the field and I appreciate the hard work & dedication he puts in. this is the best sports blog ever – period!

  813. RaiderRockstar Says:

    when pigs fly and/or Bey starts to run routes without that hitch and squareup to the QB consistently

    ***

    King Darrius may have an unconventional way of doing things, but if he’s catching passes & making plays, why do you give a crap?

    would you care if Palmer had an awkward release or throwing motion?? or would you just be pleased that he’s completing passes and winning games?

    thanks for playing, hater

  814. guest123 Says:

    would you care if Palmer had an awkward release or throwing motion?? or would you just be pleased that he’s completing passes and winning games?

    ********

    The law of averages catches up. You can’t be that technically unsound and devoid of instincts and stick the numbers out consistently. It’s butt ugly to watch. I guess I hate that too.

  815. hwnrdr Says:

    You know, the old saying goes…a Win is a Win…no matter how ugly! I agree though, it gives me heart attcks :)

  816. guest123 Says:

    peace RRS, I apologize for ripping your boy Bey this early in the AM. I’m in too good a mood to argue. You win!

  817. Plunketthead Says:

    RR

    I beg your pardon but I have been on the DHB bandwagon since draft day

  818. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I apologize for ripping your boy Bey this early in the AM

    ***

    @G123

    we’re cool bro

    Heyward-Bey = #1 WR

    he will produce in YR4 and you will be pleased when he’s helping us win games. winning cures all that ails ya

    you’re entitled to your opinions and I’m glad you share them on a regular basis. Just felt the need to shower the AM crew with some Kool-Aid

  819. theghostronin79 Says:

    No worries guys….

    I see Criner as being our work-horse, possession receiver, go to guy, red zone target, chain mover and TD machine.

    Moore is gonna be the DEEP strike threat and field stretcher, also a TD Machine.

    DHB is going to be exactly what we need him to be. A short route -just get him the ball-, physical as hell, fight for yardage, change up. He probably won’t be a TD Machine, and probably won’t be a chain mover consistantly. But he’ll get the yards, and score some TD’s. Forget his draft status. Let him do what he’s good at. He has a desireble contribution.

    I didn’t forget Ford, but we already know what he brings to the table.

  820. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I have been on the DHB bandwagon since draft day

    ***

    @Plunk

    Thats impressive, because I wasn’t!

    you are one of the few. I wanted Crabtree.

    hindsight is 20/20. Al Davis got this one right :)

  821. guest123 Says:

    I didn’t forget Ford, but we already know what he brings to the table.

    *********

    Glad that you didn’t forget him. I think he’s going to surprise a lot of people sleeping on him. He was hurt last year, but get him healthy on the field with Carson’s deep throw, and he’s going to have safeties crapping their pants guessing which way he is going to break. No way Carson doesn’t see the consistent separation little #12 is going to provide. Deep threat and take-it-to-the-house scoring threat.

  822. guest123 Says:

    I wanted Crabtree.

    hindsight is 20/20. Al Davis got this one right

    ******

    What? Really?? With Hakeem Nicks, Jeremy Maclin, Percy Harvin, Kenny Britt and Mike Wallace still on the board at pick #7. Really do you believe Al got this pick right?

  823. theghostronin79 Says:

    I didn’t forget Ford, but we already know what he brings to the table.

    *********

    Glad that you didn’t forget him. I think he’s going to surprise a lot of people sleeping on him. He was hurt last year, but get him healthy on the field with Carson’s deep throw, and he’s going to have safeties crapping their pants guessing which way he is going to break. No way Carson doesn’t see the consistent separation little #12 is going to provide. Deep threat and take-it-to-the-house scoring threat.

    ======================================

    I just remember how extatic I was during that K.C. game his rookie year. He was making some F-ing spectacular catches DEEP downfield. He fights for the football and yeah, his speed is top shelf. I don’t know if it was injury combined with scheme or play calling but, he seemed underutilized, and kind of vanished at times. Obviously his Kick return skills are Un-matched on the team.

  824. hwnrdr Says:

    Well, I think the whole thing on draft day was for the Raiders to pick Crabtree! Based on his “sigh” after he wasn’t picked, I’m glad we didn’t! So…since Al picked DHB, it’s the whole Crabtree vs DHB thing. Based on those 2, I believe Al got it right!

  825. RaiderRockstar Says:

    DHB is going to be exactly what we need him to be. A short route -just get him the ball-, physical as hell, fight for yardage, change up. He probably won’t be a TD Machine, and probably won’t be a chain mover consistantly. But he’ll get the yards, and score some TD’s. Forget his draft status. Let him do what he’s good at. He has a desireble contribution

    ***

    79,

    King Darrius will reign supreme in 2012.

    I don’t know about “TD machine” either, but I think he’ll get 80 catches & 1200 yards

  826. guest123 Says:

    I remember the draft pundits saying it was Crabtree or Maclin at #7 all the way to the draft. It was only on the day of the draft when whispers around Bey being drafted arose. And those were all with sideways glances and giggles. No way the Raider were going to reach for Bey, were they?

    Honestly the pick floored me. I was expecting Crabtree or Maclin, and Harvin wouldn’t have surprised me with his Raider speed. But Bey was a shocker!

  827. RaiderRockstar Says:

    With Hakeem Nicks, Jeremy Maclin, Percy Harvin, Kenny Britt and Mike Wallace still on the board at pick #7. Really do you believe Al got this pick right?

    ***

    @G123

    we could do this with every draft pick, every year.

    not going down that road.

    Like you said earlier “I’m in too good a mood to argue”

  828. theghostronin79 Says:

    @ RR,

    I’d love it if that happened. I really, really like DHB as a person and a player. I feel proud to say he’s a Raider. I never ever bashed the kid, even when he was doing terrible. He just lowered MY personal expectations of him……But after last year…..He got me excited again. Now I think he might be onto something, and really make a solid contribution next year.

  829. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Well, I think the whole thing on draft day was for the Raiders to pick Crabtree! Based on his “sigh” after he wasn’t picked, I’m glad we didn’t! So…since Al picked DHB, it’s the whole Crabtree vs DHB thing. Based on those 2, I believe Al got it right!

    ***

    Hwnrdr understands what I was talking about. Wasn’t saying DHB was the best player on the board at #7. Just saying i’m glad we picked him instead of Crabs

  830. RaiderRockstar Says:

    @G123

    Mayock & Lombardi both predicted Heyward-Bey to the Raiders at #7

  831. hwnrdr Says:

    guest123 Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 7:38 am
    I remember the draft pundits saying it was Crabtree or Maclin at #7 all the way to the draft. It was only on the day of the draft when whispers around Bey being drafted arose. And those were all with sideways glances and giggles. No way the Raider were going to reach for Bey, were they?

    Honestly the pick floored me. I was expecting Crabtree or Maclin, and Harvin wouldn’t have surprised me with his Raider speed. But Bey was a shocker!

    Yeah, I forgot Maclin was mentioned…one thing I will give DHB…he has the work ethic to succeed and I think he is proving that. A little unorthodox here and there which could go either way, but just his desire to be the best he could be, I’ll take that and hopefully it will continue to rub off on the rest of the team!

  832. Plunketthead Says:

    I was not on Bey before the draft. Just from the moment Al drafted him.
    However in all fairness I bandwagon all Raider draftees and seldom give up on them as long as they are good guys and not knuckleheads

  833. RaiderRockstar Says:

    DHB certainly hasn’t been the best WR of that draft class, the past 3 years.

    Doesn’t mean he won’t be for the next 5!

  834. hwnrdr Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 7:42 am
    @G123

    Mayock & Lombardi both predicted Heyward-Bey to the Raiders at #7

    they did? Sorry, I as at Target at the time of the pick. Got a phone call right after DHB’s name was called…with the 7th pick…

  835. Marks hair Says:

    I like Dhb, jano too. Still bad picks because they could have been taken a full round later..

  836. guest123 Says:

    Mayock & Lombardi both predicted Heyward-Bey to the Raiders at #7

    *********

    unless I misremember, they didn’t come forward with talk about Bey until the day of or maybe day prior to the draft. Bey was starting to creep into mock drafts for the Raiders at #7. But all of the month of March and most of April, it was all a discussion of choosing between Jeremy Maclin and Michael Crabtree. Heyward Bey was not in the discussion as anything but a darkhorse.

  837. hwnrdr Says:

    Marks hair Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 7:47 am
    I like Dhb, jano too. Still bad picks because they could have been taken a full round later..

    Agreed! But I believe we will no longer see those reaches! However, glad to have them as Raiders!

  838. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I as at Target at the time of the pick. Got a phone call right after DHB’s name was called…with the 7th pick

    ***

    @Hwnrdr

    I was at home, watching BSPN on the big screen.

    I remember because I just about threw a frosty mug of rootbeer at the TV!

  839. Marks hair Says:

    Lombardi had us taking dhb as a height weight speed guy as soon as he gave a mock of the top 10. He knew al pretty well.

  840. Plunketthead Says:

    Five game ticket plan at Raiders.com for 155.00

    Get yourcredit card out!!!!!

  841. theghostronin79 Says:

    I was not on Bey before the draft. Just from the moment Al drafted him.
    However in all fairness I bandwagon all Raider draftees and seldom give up on them as long as they are good guys and not knuckleheads

    ====================

    How can you NOT do that and be a true fan. Same exact thing for me. When they called DHB’s name at the podium,
    I stood there stunned as hell, W.T.F.? What the hell did they just do?
    Alright then, Come on Heyward-Bey, you’re my boy, let’s gettir.

    And I’d cheered for him ever since. He coulda cried in his Cheerios about how bad he sucked his rookie year…..NOPE…..He went out on that field and practiced all off season. Did he get better? Not a whole lot. So he practiced more, and more with such a great positive attitude. You gotta love that kid. NOW he’s producing which is fantastic.

  842. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Heyward-Bey played on teams that ran more than passed.

    “Here’s the conundrum with him: big, fast guy whose track speed translates to the football field. With the ball in his hands, he’s deadly,” says Mike Mayock. NFL Network draft analyst.

    “But the key is you’ve got to get the ball in his hands first.”

    Mayock says he’s found it difficult to evaluate Heyward-Bey’s route running and hands on game tapes because Maryland’s passing game was “sporadic.” His conclusion is that he has “pretty good” but not “great”‘ hands.

    “So he’s a little bit of a puzzle,” says Mayock.

    http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/2009-04-19-usat-wide-receivers_N.htm

    04/20/2009

  843. Marks hair Says:

    I wanted the Lt. I think the kid from the blind side was still on the board.

  844. guest123 Says:

    For all the crap I give Bey, I love his work ethic. If we had another 52 like him, in that respect, we’d have a championship roster. It’s really his best attribute.

  845. Plunketthead Says:

    Three years ago the Oline and the WR were our weakest positions. Now they are our strengths. Almost any team would be thankful to be in our shoes. We have some NFL proven WR’s and they are young, very young.

    Ford and Murph have proven themselves already. They just have to be healthy. Moore may be our best WR. This year will tell more. Throw Criner and Streater in the mix and break out perinnial pro bowler Bey and the Raiders are set at WR (barring injury) for years to come.

    Nice job AL

  846. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Mike Mayock Reports Darrius Heyward Bey’s Stock is Climbing–Maybe Up to Oakland’s #7 Pick

    April 14th, 2009

    I guess his 40 time of 4.3 and his 38″ vertical leap has finally awoke some of the NFL teams besides the Ravens. It seems the Ravens won’t get lucky and have DHB slip down to 26th. The Oakland Raiders were impressed with his workout and now the New York Jets are entering the picture. The next few weeks should be exciting for the McDonogh lad.

    http://www.terptalk.com/2009/04/14/mike-mayock-reports-darrius-heyward-beys-stock-is-climbing-maybe-up-to-oaklands-7-pick/

  847. hwnrdr Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 7:49 am
    I as at Target at the time of the pick. Got a phone call right after DHB’s name was called…with the 7th pick

    ***

    @Hwnrdr

    I was at home, watching BSPN on the big screen.

    I remember because I just about threw a frosty mug of rootbeer at the TV!

    LOL, I think I let out a big… ‘FAAAACCCCKKKKKK’ when my friend called! My phone at the time (Blackberry I believe) wasn’t updating fast enough!!!

  848. guest123 Says:

    That 2009 draft class was very deep at WR. So I wanted Al to draft one. But if he wasn’t convinced on which one, I was hoping for BJ Raji.

  849. hwnrdr Says:

    Marks hair Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 7:55 am
    I wanted the Lt. I think the kid from the blind side was still on the board.

    Michael oher…yeah, that would have been a great pick up!

  850. RaiderRockstar Says:

    ” Wow this is pretty interesting here, Mike Mayock has Al Davis drafting Darrius Heyward-Bey because of his 4.3 speed. I’ll be so pissed if we drafted him at #7. ”

    http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=314653

    04/04/2009

    *** that video of Mayock on NFL.com is no longer available ***

  851. Plunketthead Says:

    How can you NOT do that and be a true fan. Same exact thing for me.
    &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&

    You are new here, arent you?

  852. Marks hair Says:

    After the pick my friends immediately started the the raiders will never win a superbowl until al davis dies talk. Again..

  853. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Mayock’s top prospects at each position

    http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/09000d5d80dff358/article/mayocks-top-prospects-at-each-position

    04/24/2009

    Has DHB ranked the 4th best WR [ahead of guys like Hakeem Nicks, Kenny Britt & Mike Wallace]

    thoughts?

  854. hwnrdr Says:

    Yeah, but they all saw him unleash last year while Al was still alive (briefly)…Haters will always hate, but unfortunately, the Al thing became true! RIP Al and God Bless him!

  855. guest123 Says:

    I was relaxing in the pool when the Heyward Bey pick was announced. I’d been hushing my kids from all the splashing. I was in a really good mood, sipping a beer. Life was good. Pick comes in. Heyward Bey slaps on a Raiders cap with his entourage. I winced. I don’t remember what I said but it was bad. Very very bad words not to be repeated in front of the kids. I think I may have yelled them out. My head was pulsing and eyes watering and on fire. I had to bribe the kids with ice cream not to tell on me to their mama. 5 minutes later, I switched the channel to spongebob squarepants and felt like crying in my beer.

  856. Marks hair Says:

    Yea bj raji was there too. I had him pegged wrong though. I thought bj would be lazy.

  857. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I was hoping for BJ Raji

    ***

    @G123

    so was Dakota!

    I thought for sure we’d take one of the three:

    Eugene Monroe, B. J. Raji or Michael Crabtree

  858. guest123 Says:

    RIP Al and God Bless him!

    *****

    RIP

  859. Marks hair Says:

    Al had his time. But I wanna watch the raiders win a superbowl before I die. So yeah rip..

  860. hwnrdr Says:

    LOL, I think gone are the days where my tv will look like a broken beer dispenser! :)

  861. theghostronin79 Says:

    My last comment says “Awaiting mediation” does that mean I got too many naughty words in it?

  862. RaiderRockstar Says:

    KC ready to rumble in the AFC West

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/06/27/matt-cassel-says-expectations-are-very-high-in-kansas-city/

    ***

    I think they’ll take 2nd, behind Oakland

  863. guest123 Says:

    Don’t worry about it 79, it’s automatic if you use a political candidates name, but I saw nothing to get riled about in your post.

  864. Raidernationdave Says:

    There’s something about women with big breasts and sticks in they’re hand that makes me want to watch women’s tennis.

  865. guest123 Says:

    Realistically, KC is the strongest team in the division. Their achilles heel is they are the only team without a franchise QB in the division. But that team is loaded for bear.

  866. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “My last comment says “Awaiting mediation” does that mean I got too many naughty words in it?”

    Yes but there are also words that are not forbidden that are not naughty like j3w or 0bama that are not allowed for some strange reason.

  867. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “There’s something about women with big breasts and sticks in they’re hand that makes me want to watch women’s tennis.”

    Or trampoline jumping!

    It should be an Olympic sport if you ask me

  868. Silverandblack666 Says:

    I wrote that wrong.

    #866 there are words that are not swear words that are forbidden

  869. RaiderRockstar Says:

    ESPN has announced that Chris Berman and Trent Dilfer will call the second game of the season-opening Monday Night Football doubleheader, when the Raiders host the Chargers.

    Per ESPN, Berman will host Sunday NFL Countdown on Week One, then fly to Oakland to prepare for the Monday night game. There’s no specific word yet on who will replace Berman for The Blitz, Berman’s SportsCenter-embedded review of game highlights with Tom Jackson.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/06/27/berman-heads-to-the-monday-night-booth/

  870. guest123 Says:

    add oil wrestling in plastic kiddie pool vats to the discussion of much needed Olympic sports.

  871. theghostronin79 Says:

    Realistically, KC is the strongest team in the division. Their achilles heel is they are the only team without a franchise QB in the division. But that team is loaded for bear.

    ============================
    I like the thought of the AFC WEST being a factor again. Sure it’s harder to win your division, but I’d rather every team be good, and battle each other and have our division games be MORE than just the rivalry for rivalry’s sake. Have something at stake for both teams when they play. I wanna be back in the playoffs So Effing bad but, can’t say I’d feel too good about it if they were like Seahawks. YAAAYYY, we’re the best of the worst, goin to the post season at 7-9.
    Yeah yeah, they beat the Saints……I think you know what I’m sayin though.

  872. Raidernationdave Says:

    Am I the only one that thinks Berman’s schtick is tired n’ played? His crap with saying the Raiders name makes me want to trash my TV every time I see it.

  873. guest123 Says:

    I hate Trent Dilfer. Remember him and Suzy Colber laughing it up and clowning on DHB shortly after he was picked? I’ll never forget the classless act that they called an interview. His family was watching and it was a proud moment to be on National TV and he was the butt of BSPN’s joke.

  874. Raidernationdave Says:

    Excuse me for a few minutes folks….

    I need to contemplate something.

    +++++++++++++++++

    guest123 Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 8:20 am

    add oil wrestling in plastic kiddie pool vats to the discussion of much needed Olympic sports.

  875. guest123 Says:

    Chris Berman and Trent Dilfer

    ________________

    Bottom of the barrel announcing crew. Trent should take Berman to Applebees and call it a night, and get Papa to announce the game instead.

  876. theghostronin79 Says:

    I hate Trent Dilfer. Remember him and Suzy Colber laughing it up and clowning on DHB shortly after he was picked? I’ll never forget the classless act that they called an interview. His family was watching and it was a proud moment to be on National TV and he was the butt of BSPN’s joke.

    =====================================

    Word, Word, and WOOORRD………”F” Dilfer

  877. alf_capone Says:

    espn does seem to enjoy ripping on the raiders but damnit do i love espn for providing me with not stop sports entertainment. love hate relationship

  878. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Realistically, KC is the strongest team in the division. Their achilles heel is they are the only team without a franchise QB in the division. But that team is loaded for bear.

    ***

    @G123

    Matt Cassel threw for 3100+ yards & 27 TD’s in 2010. Had a QB Rating of 93. Won the division & went to the Pro Bowl

    only started the first 9 games last season and was on pace to throw for 3000 yards & 18 TD’s (even without Charles & Moeaki) certainly would have won the AFC West again

    this year they add Hillis, Boss & Winston to the offense. plus another year of experience for star WR Jonathan Baldwin

    I hate KC more than any other football team, but they are stacked. I hope Cassel gets hurt again. If he doesn’t they will make the postseason

  879. theghostronin79 Says:

    I’m ansy as hell…..Come on Camp.
    I’m ready for that Charger showdown. I feel like that game is going to be really telling. Mabye not…..But it feels like a MUST WIN, and it’s only game 1.

  880. Method To My Madness Says:

    869.RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 8:18 am
    ESPN has announced that Chris Berman and Trent Dilfer will call the second game of the season-opening Monday Night Football doubleheader, when the Raiders host the Chargers.

    Per ESPN, Berman will host Sunday NFL Countdown on Week One, then fly to Oakland to prepare for the Monday night game. There’s no specific word yet on who will replace Berman for The Blitz, Berman’s SportsCenter-embedded review of game highlights with Tom Jackson.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/06/27/berman-heads-to-the-monday-night-booth/

    ***********************

    Thank god I’ll be at game…that combo sucks

  881. hwnrdr Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 8:46 am
    869.RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 8:18 am
    ESPN has announced that Chris Berman and Trent Dilfer will call the second game of the season-opening Monday Night Football doubleheader, when the Raiders host the Chargers.

    Per ESPN, Berman will host Sunday NFL Countdown on Week One, then fly to Oakland to prepare for the Monday night game. There’s no specific word yet on who will replace Berman for The Blitz, Berman’s SportsCenter-embedded review of game highlights with Tom Jackson.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/06/27/berman-heads-to-the-monday-night-booth/

    ***********************

    Thank god I’ll be at game…that combo sucks

    Right???

  882. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I’m probably the only Raider fan that likes Chris Berman …

    Trent Dilfer is a Raider hater for sure, but thats because he wanted to play for us in 2008 after his 2-year stint with San Fran.

    Al Davis & Lane Kiffin said “no thanks”

    [even though Kiff & Dilf both went to Fresno State]

  883. hwnrdr Says:

    I don’t mind Chris Berman, always loved his NFL Prime Time…but as an announcer? Dilfer is terrible as well!

  884. Method To My Madness Says:

    781.Raidernationdave Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 8:27 pm
    I never kiss and tell Kooky Kell!

    Besides Kell, remember that time when you told your wife that you were gonna go out and look for some “new” pus8y?

    Remember what she said to you Sparky?

    “If ya’ had two mo’ inches of dick mther fcker you’d find some new pus8y right here……………beyotch!”

    Stay in your lane you fcken kook.

    +++++++++++++++++

    KoolKell Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 8:16 pm

    Who else are you sucking, Dave Dumbass?

    **********************

    HAHAHAHAHA

  885. guest123 Says:

    Dilfer is right there in any discussion of the worst Super Bowl winning QB ever. You can’t not say his name.

  886. Method To My Madness Says:

    Berman is a 49er ass kisser….damn him

  887. theghostronin79 Says:

    I think the only thing I enjoyed about Berman was his “Fastest 2 minutes” Sunday in review. WWWHHAAAP ! ! ! Guys running in fast forward.

  888. guest123 Says:

    I went to school at Fresno about the same time as Dilfer was there. He may have graduated a year or two after me. Always blowout wins, but even then he was an azzclown.

  889. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Chris Berman is an upper east coast guy all the way.

    hails from Greenwich, Connecticut. went to Brown Univ

    hardcore Bills fan.

    works for ESPN in Bristol, Connecticut.

    ***

    I wonder what Bcz thinks about him ??

  890. guest123 Says:

    Most Raider fans I know up in the Northeast are typically the “anti-homer” fans. They like nothing more than the local teams to fall flat on their face.

  891. Raidernationdave Says:

    Don’t hold back baby tell us how you really feel!

    Quite frankly between “Diddle her Fur” and Curt Schilling I can’t decide who comes off as the biggest fckn “know it all.” They are both smarmy, arrogant, douche bags that make me turn the tube off every time.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++

    theghostronin79 Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 8:25 am

    Word, Word, and WOOORRD………”F” Dilfer

  892. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Berman is a 49er ass kisser

    I went to school at Fresno about the same time as Dilfer was there. He may have graduated a year or two after me. Always blowout wins, but even then he was an azzclown.

    ***

    @ROG – no, he isn’t

    @G123 – Dilfer was a changed man after his son died

  893. Method To My Madness Says:

    892.RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 9:02 am
    Berman is a 49er ass kisser

    I went to school at Fresno about the same time as Dilfer was there. He may have graduated a year or two after me. Always blowout wins, but even then he was an azzclown.

    ***

    @ROG – no, he isn’t

    @G123 – Dilfer was a changed man after his son died

    **************

    Bullschit he always has been

  894. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Mike Tirico, Mike Greenberg and Mike Golic = beyond pathetic

    I’ll take Chris Berman any friggin day!

  895. guest123 Says:

    Dilfer was a changed man after his son died

    ****

    I didn’t know about that and sorry to hear that. But it doesn’t change the memories I have of him and what I heard of him indirectly. Big fish in a little pond type stuff. Annoyed me more than anything, since I could care less about Fresno St football.

  896. RaiderRockstar Says:

    @ROG

    Berman always roots for Philly in the NFC.

    look it up, it’s well documented

  897. Method To My Madness Says:

    “You get to hit somebody every play. That’s the best part. It sums it up. You get to hit somebody every play at middle linebacker. It’s like you’re the quarterback of the defense and you have control. And I like to be in control as far as lining everybody up and getting everybody going. I like that and I embrace that role.”

    Who said this? Million Dollar question

  898. guest123 Says:

    Bullschit he always has been

    *****

    I agree with ROG here. I know some people who hung out with Berman in SF bars. He loves SF and pisses on the East Bay. Laughing it up with all the prissy yuppie types. That’s first hand knowledge.

  899. Method To My Madness Says:

    896.RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 9:06 am
    @ROG

    Berman always roots for Philly in the NFC.

    look it up, it’s well documented

    **************

    throughout 90s he picked bills vs 49ers in sb…he said it was his dream….wish 49erhaters.com site was still up you would be proven wrong

  900. guest123 Says:

    Mike Tirico, Mike Greenberg and Mike Golic = beyond pathetic

    I’ll take Chris Berman any friggin day!

    ********

    That’s a tough one. tough decision. Deep thought to consider. Right there with would I like my execution be to the heart or the head.

  901. RaiderRockstar Says:

    “You get to hit somebody every play. That’s the best part. It sums it up. You get to hit somebody every play at middle linebacker. It’s like you’re the quarterback of the defense and you have control. And I like to be in control as far as lining everybody up and getting everybody going. I like that and I embrace that role.”

    Who said this? Million Dollar question

    ***

    Kirk Morrison!

  902. Method To My Madness Says:

    898.guest123 Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 9:08 am
    Bullschit he always has been

    *****

    I agree with ROG here. I know some people who hung out with Berman in SF bars. He loves SF and pisses on the East Bay. Laughing it up with all the prissy yuppie types. That’s first hand knowledge.

    ***********

    Connecticut rich boy

  903. Method To My Madness Says:

    Remember when Berman wanted to help buy the Rams and move them to the Yale Bowl? LOL

  904. RaiderRockstar Says:

    throughout 90s he picked bills vs 49ers in sb…he said it was his dream….wish 49erhaters.com site was still up you would be proven wrong

    I agree with ROG here. I know some people who hung out with Berman in SF bars. He loves SF and pisses on the East Bay. Laughing it up with all the prissy yuppie types. That’s first hand knowledge.

    ***

    alright fellers – RRS is wrong

    guess I was busy chillin in the 209 too much instead of hanging out in SF gey bars

  905. Method To My Madness Says:

    901.RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 9:10 am
    “You get to hit somebody every play. That’s the best part. It sums it up. You get to hit somebody every play at middle linebacker. It’s like you’re the quarterback of the defense and you have control. And I like to be in control as far as lining everybody up and getting everybody going. I like that and I embrace that role.”

    Who said this? Million Dollar question

    ***

    Kirk Morrison!

    ************

    Comedy Central by RRS today i see

  906. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Wilson Chandler to the W’s for the #7 pick?.. Interesting.

  907. Method To My Madness Says:

    904.RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 9:13 am
    throughout 90s he picked bills vs 49ers in sb…he said it was his dream….wish 49erhaters.com site was still up you would be proven wrong

    I agree with ROG here. I know some people who hung out with Berman in SF bars. He loves SF and pisses on the East Bay. Laughing it up with all the prissy yuppie types. That’s first hand knowledge.

    ***

    alright fellers – RRS is wrong

    guess I was busy chillin in the 209 too much instead of hanging out in SF gey bars

    *************

    well then you sir are the winner! 209>415

  908. RaiderRockstar Says:

    “You get to hit somebody every play. That’s the best part. It sums it up. You get to hit somebody every play at middle linebacker. It’s like you’re the quarterback of the defense and you have control. And I like to be in control as far as lining everybody up and getting everybody going. I like that and I embrace that role.” – Travis Goethel

  909. Method To My Madness Says:

    906.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 9:15 am
    Wilson Chandler to the W’s for the #7 pick?.. Interesting.

    ****

    Dont like it

  910. Method To My Madness Says:

    908.RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 9:16 am
    “You get to hit somebody every play. That’s the best part. It sums it up. You get to hit somebody every play at middle linebacker. It’s like you’re the quarterback of the defense and you have control. And I like to be in control as far as lining everybody up and getting everybody going. I like that and I embrace that role.” – Travis Goethel

    ************

    Thug life McClain

  911. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 9:20 am
    906.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 9:15 am
    Wilson Chandler to the W’s for the #7 pick?.. Interesting.

    ****

    Dont like it

    —-

    No one there @7 that is, or most likely will be better than Chandler.

    He’s Carmelo Anthony-Lite.

  912. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Curry
    Thompson
    Chandler
    Lee
    Bogut

    Rush
    Robinson

    Thats a pretty good rotation.

  913. theghostronin79 Says:

    “You get to hit somebody every play. That’s the best part. It sums it up. You get to hit somebody every play at middle linebacker. It’s like you’re the quarterback of the defense and you have control. And I like to be in control as far as lining everybody up and getting everybody going. I like that and I embrace that role.”

    Who said this? Million Dollar question

    ============

    Kinda sounds like Urlacher

  914. DJ Johnny Says:

    I was down on Tennessee for a few days, was driving around and picked up some ESPN radio station and heard some “analysis” of the Raiders for this season and it seems they are picking us to be bad becuz they just think we will be; no in depth reasons really; new HC, lost Bush, new direction of org…etc. It seems they think it’s rebuilding era and we’re just gonna be bad while we rebuild and eventually we’ll get better..They mentioned other teams in the Afc West got better and we are rebuilding so they don’t see us doing anything.

    Like I said. no REAL analysis or an effort to really break everything down…more of a general feeling.

  915. RaiderRockstar Says:

    “I think subconsciously, I understood that being gay — the way I was raised — was wrong,” McClain told Amy K. Nelson of SB Nation. “And there was no way that my family, at least, in my mind, would accept me. And also that my football family would accept me. Just because of the perception of being gay meant that you were less masculine.”

    McClain, now 22, told Nelson of the friendships he developed with Stanford Routt, Quentin Groves and Darryl Blackstock in Oakland more than a year ago, but he kept his secret in a league that has never had an openly gay player. He told of a moment with the Raiders in 2010, when another player was “perceived to be different,” and was warned not to do something that could lead to not making the roster. Confronted by that reality, McClain kept quiet, spending thousands at strip clubs to fool his teammates.

    “You just want to be one of the guys, and you don’t want to lose that sense of family,” McClain told OutSports.com. “Your biggest fear is that you’ll lose that camaraderie and family. I think about how close I was with Branch and Kelly. It’s not like they’d like me less, it’s that they have to protect their own brand.”

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8299c838/article/gay-hopes-nfl-has-changed

  916. Raidernationdave Says:

    LOL!

    MTMM I always look at things this way, especially when it comes to doofuses like Kooky Kell.

    He’s free to call me anything he wants. Anyone is.

    If he called me a “pickle” there’s no way I could get upset cuz I know I’m not a “pickle.” Right!? By the same token if he called me “gay” any other slur I can’t get upset, right?

    Kell’s a tool. Everyone knows he’s a tool. Hell, he knows he’s a tool!

    He’s also a kook.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 8:52 am

    781.Raidernationdave Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 8:27 pm
    I never kiss and tell Kooky Kell!

    Besides Kell, remember that time when you told your wife that you were gonna go out and look for some “new” pus8y?

    Remember what she said to you Sparky?

    “If ya’ had two mo’ inches of dick mther fcker you’d find some new pus8y right here……………beyotch!”

    Stay in your lane you fcken kook.

    +++++++++++++++++

    KoolKell Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 8:16 pm

    Who else are you sucking, Dave Dumbass?

    **********************

    HAHAHAHAHA

  917. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    RUMOR:

    Bynum to 76ers for Iguodala, Holiday, 15th pick?..

  918. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Bynum to 76ers for Iguodala, Holiday, 15th pick?..

    ***

    do it Philly!

  919. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Just goes to show you that its easy to talk up a good game but once you are on the field it takes a special breed to play MLB.

    Tackling is a state of mind you have to WANT to hit someone and and you have to have the desire to bring them down to the ground and hard.

    I am not sure #55 has that mentality.

  920. hwnrdr Says:

    Rockstar, too funny! I read that article myself…it’s not Rolando…LOL!

  921. DJ Johnny Says:

    I never hated Chris Berman or his “raiiiiiiiiduuuuuhs” thing, which I always took as an attempt at an Al Davis impersonation and trying to be “cute” or “funny”.

    Actually the “Raiiiiiiduuuuuhs” thing is something a friend of mine always does if we win and it’s kind of a salute he does to me…not a making fun of kind of thing.

    He doesn’t come off though as a Raider lover that’s for sure.

  922. Silverandblack666 Says:

    LMFAO at 915

  923. RaiderRockstar Says:

    @silver

    Rolando World Peace is all talk, like Hue Jackson

  924. Raidernationdave Says:

    And here you thought you were having a bad day…..

    http://theurbandaily.com/1928203/terrell-owens-sex-photos-being-shopped/

    Terrell Owens Sex Photos Being Shopped

    As if you didn’t already know, former NFL star Terrell Owens loves himself. He loves himself so much, he pleasures himself on camera and the photos are being shopped to various media outlets.

    A woman is trying to sell photos of Terrell Owens pleasuring himself to any media publication who’s interested. The woman, who remains unidentified at this time, claims she met the former football player on Twitter and began a series of conversations. Once the two were comfortable enough with each other, they took their exchanges to Skype. Owens and the woman’s conversations turned sexual and they began a cyber-sex relationship. During a time they were engaged in cyber-sex, she snapped a few photos of Owens touching himself.

  925. guest123 Says:

    LMFAO at 915

    *******

    that would explain a lot of things. Like that jellyazz.

  926. Method To My Madness Says:

    911.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 9:22 am
    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 9:20 am
    906.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 9:15 am
    Wilson Chandler to the W’s for the #7 pick?.. Interesting.

    ****

    Dont like it

    —-

    No one there @7 that is, or most likely will be better than Chandler.

    He’s Carmelo Anthony-Lite.

    *************

    So he isnt a winning player

  927. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 9:39 am
    911.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 9:22 am
    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 9:20 am
    906.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 9:15 am
    Wilson Chandler to the W’s for the #7 pick?.. Interesting.

    ****

    Dont like it

    —-

    No one there @7 that is, or most likely will be better than Chandler.

    He’s Carmelo Anthony-Lite.

    *************

    So he isnt a winning player

    —-

    Nationl Champioinship as a freshmen would like to speak with you in the kitchen.

  928. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Lakers trying to trade Gasol, make big move, but no takers yet

    The Lakers need to make changes. Well, unless you think Kobe Bryant and the Lakers fan base sits well with second round exits. Los Angeles needs to bring in more talent to help them win now around Kobe, Andrew Bynum and Pau Gasol.

    The Lakers management also sees the looming luxury tax increase they would face if they don’t lower their payroll — last year they had $86 million in salary, paying a $16 million tax, but if this were 2015 that same payroll would lead to a $52 million tax. That would be in addition to their increased revenue sharing checks.

    That is the crossroads the Lakers find themselves at — needing upgrades to win now but not having a lot of resources to bring in more talent, plus the cost of what they do bring in goes up exponentially in coming years. Rock, meet hard place.

    The Lakers have been rumored to be talking to teams in the 20s about moving into the first round of the NBA Draft (there are a lot of teams shopping picks in that range). Which is nice. With a pick in the 20s they can get a guy that in a couple years may be a solid rotation player.

    But we all know the Lakers need to make a bigger move — and they are open to it, but there are no nibbles tweets Marc Spears at Yahoo Sports.

    The Lakers are very open to trade talk in regards to forward Pau Gasol, but nothing is imminent, according to two NBA sources.
    If the Lakers make a bold move, don’t expect it to be around the draft. Owner Jim Buss said not to expect one at all, and maybe that’s the case. But more likely the Lakers are looking for a big move that is a win for them and being patient. They have always been a patient franchise (just with an impatient fan base). They will try to jump in the Dwight Howard sweepstakes when that ramps up again.

    But they are not looking to give projects big minutes, which is why you shouldn’t be expected a draft-day move.

    http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/06/27/lakers-trying-to-trade-gasol-make-big-move-but-no-takers-yet/

  929. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I am not a huge fan of this draft pool, but you got to do better than Wilson Chandler at #7, especially when you factor in he probably earns 2-3X’s what we would pay the rookie.

    Is that just a rumor or did we do this?

  930. Method To My Madness Says:

    924.Raidernationdave Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 9:37 am
    And here you thought you were having a bad day…..

    http://theurbandaily.com/1928203/terrell-owens-sex-photos-being-shopped/

    Terrell Owens Sex Photos Being Shopped

    As if you didn’t already know, former NFL star Terrell Owens loves himself. He loves himself so much, he pleasures himself on camera and the photos are being shopped to various media outlets.

    A woman is trying to sell photos of Terrell Owens pleasuring himself to any media publication who’s interested. The woman, who remains unidentified at this time, claims she met the former football player on Twitter and began a series of conversations. Once the two were comfortable enough with each other, they took their exchanges to Skype. Owens and the woman’s conversations turned sexual and they began a cyber-sex relationship. During a time they were engaged in cyber-sex, she snapped a few photos of Owens touching himself.

    *************

    TO doesnt look like he is even into chicks

  931. Dakota Says:

    #915….someone is going to be served with a lawsuit….or a gun shot!

  932. Method To My Madness Says:

    927.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 9:41 am
    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 9:39 am
    911.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 9:22 am
    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 9:20 am
    906.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 9:15 am
    Wilson Chandler to the W’s for the #7 pick?.. Interesting.

    ****

    Dont like it

    —-

    No one there @7 that is, or most likely will be better than Chandler.

    He’s Carmelo Anthony-Lite.

    *************

    So he isnt a winning player

    —-

    Nationl Champioinship as a freshmen would like to speak with you in the kitchen.

    *********

    We talking nba or ncaa…cuz mateen cleaves is coming to meet us inthe kitchen bruh

  933. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 9:44 am
    I am not a huge fan of this draft pool, but you got to do better than Wilson Chandler at #7, especially when you factor in he probably earns 2-3X’s what we would pay the rookie.

    Is that just a rumor or did we do this?

    —-

    He is a RFA I believe…

    And this draft is the deepest in years actually.

    Just a deal on the table at this point.

  934. DJ Johnny Says:

    I think of a team like Cleveland for instance. Even if they picked up every top FA available and looked on paper to be loaded…and nobody could make a case that they shouyldn’t win the division at least, or even go deep in the playoffs, hardly anybody would pick them to do anything more than 8-8. Why? We are all just so used to them being bad or average at best and you just can’t picture them as really doing anything.

    Too much losing the past decade and choking away big chances (see SD game last yr.) and it’s hard to go out and say “These guys are gonna be really good this yr” when talking about the Raiders. We’re gonna have to prove it on the field before anyone will take us seriously…especially with the new regime.

    Conversely, if the Steelers were to lose every key player they have, they have such a history of consistently winning that everyone would still pick them to win.

  935. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Report: Clippers, Mavericks talking Lamar Odom trade

    Pistons trade Ben Gordon to Bobcats for Corey Maggette

    It’s official: Deron Williams did not pick up option, still wants to stay with Nets

  936. Method To My Madness Says:

    The Warriors will draft Terrence Ross if Drummond or Barnes is off the board

  937. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 9:46 am
    927.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 9:41 am
    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 9:39 am
    911.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 9:22 am
    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 9:20 am
    906.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 9:15 am
    Wilson Chandler to the W’s for the #7 pick?.. Interesting.

    ****

    Dont like it

    —-

    No one there @7 that is, or most likely will be better than Chandler.

    He’s Carmelo Anthony-Lite.

    *************

    So he isnt a winning player

    —-

    Nationl Champioinship as a freshmen would like to speak with you in the kitchen.

    *********

    We talking nba or ncaa…cuz mateen cleaves is coming to meet us inthe kitchen bruh

    —-

    Thats a kinda weak stance to take both ways.

    Then were saying what about Durant, he didnt win one lol.

    Team sport.

    Regardless of wins & losses Carmelo Anthony is one of the best in the NBA. So a player of similar skill/potential is pretty decent.

  938. The Big Banana Says:

    Mike and Mike are awful.

  939. Method To My Madness Says:

    Vegas….we takingTerrence Ross….pac 12 player with length athleticism and defense to match with klay at the wing…bank on it if barnes and drummond are gone

  940. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Jaworski just lost all credibility in his QB rankings.

    Stafford @15. LOL!

  941. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Also, off topic, but interesting that Taylor Mays is a starting S for the Bengals. A lot of people had him on his way out of the league by this point..

    Somewhere Al is smiling?..

  942. alf_capone Says:

    whoever cared what jaworski thinks? and i dont blame him for ranking palmer where he ranked him but i honestly never cared. its just another guy with an opinion

  943. theghostronin79 Says:

    Too much losing the past decade and choking away big chances (see SD game last yr.) and it’s hard to go out and say “These guys are gonna be really good this yr” when talking about the Raiders. We’re gonna have to prove it on the field before anyone will take us seriously…especially with the new regime.

    ===========

    That’s why I can’t say they will be “really Good” this year. I do expect them to be better than last year, and continue on that up swing until they become perennial. Their reign will return and the rise to domination “Begins” 2012.

  944. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    LOL, Ford just mentioned the Lakers trading Kobe for Anthony Davis..

    Hornest finally get Kobe back?..

    Chad Ford. lol..

  945. Method To My Madness Says:

    937.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 9:52 am
    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 9:46 am
    927.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 9:41 am
    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 9:39 am
    911.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 9:22 am
    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 9:20 am
    906.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 9:15 am
    Wilson Chandler to the W’s for the #7 pick?.. Interesting.

    ****

    Dont like it

    —-

    No one there @7 that is, or most likely will be better than Chandler.

    He’s Carmelo Anthony-Lite.

    *************

    So he isnt a winning player

    —-

    Nationl Champioinship as a freshmen would like to speak with you in the kitchen.

    *********

    We talking nba or ncaa…cuz mateen cleaves is coming to meet us inthe kitchen bruh

    —-

    Thats a kinda weak stance to take both ways.

    Then were saying what about Durant, he didnt win one lol.

    Team sport.

    Regardless of wins & losses Carmelo Anthony is one of the best in the NBA. So a player of similar skill/potential is pretty decent.

    ************

    Durant is a winning type player period….great attiude and work ethic…im talking a winning type player in nba…thats the point Duece…I’ve never liked Melo…high volume shooter and cant play D at all…I mean that guy cant guard you or me!

    Melo is a good player but great? No way since his teams havent got out of first round except once

    Chandler isnt the guy….you may as well pick Terrence ross

  946. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I think of a team like Cleveland for instance. Even if they picked up every top FA available and looked on paper to be loaded…and nobody could make a case that they shouyldn’t win the division at least, or even go deep in the playoffs, hardly anybody would pick them to do anything more than 8-8. Why? We are all just so used to them being bad or average at best and you just can’t picture them as really doing anything.

    ***

    @DJG

    Mike Holmgren & Tom Heckert should have went on a spending spree this offseason. Cleveland needs a qb & Brandon Weeden isn’t it. They should have made a run at Peyton Manning, Matt Flynn & RGIII. Even Chad Henne or Tim Tebow!

    Brownies O-Line & Defense are just fine, but they entered this offseason with NOBODY at QB, RB & WR.

    Trent Richardson can’t do it all. I like him though

  947. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Also, the Hornets about to buy out Rashard Lewis, saving around 13 million..

    Drew Brees will get that money.

  948. Dakota Says:

    944.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 10:03 am
    LOL, Ford just mentioned the Lakers trading Kobe for Anthony Davis..

    Hornest finally get Kobe back?..

    Chad Ford. lol..

    +++++++++++

    Done deal!

  949. Method To My Madness Says:

    Stafford at 15? Uh Idunno…after the top 10 who really gives a damn…Carson aint in top 10 so just leave it at that

  950. guest123 Says:

    I agree that Cleveland really dropped the ball reaching on Brandon Weedon in the first round. He’s got a big arm, but at 28 yo, how long does he have to ramp up to be the franchise QB? It’s more likely the Brownies are spending another high first rounder on a QB next year.

  951. RaiderRockstar Says:

    LOL, Chad Ford just mentioned the Lakers trading Kobe for Anthony Davis..

    Hornets finally get Kobe back?

    ***

    @DAV

    that would be a smart move, but KB24 has a no-trade clause in his contract. They are stuck with him until 2014-2015

    2 more full seasons!

  952. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 10:04 am
    937.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 9:52 am
    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 9:46 am
    927.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 9:41 am
    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 9:39 am
    911.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 9:22 am
    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 9:20 am
    906.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 9:15 am
    Wilson Chandler to the W’s for the #7 pick?.. Interesting.

    ****

    Dont like it

    —-

    No one there @7 that is, or most likely will be better than Chandler.

    He’s Carmelo Anthony-Lite.

    *************

    So he isnt a winning player

    —-

    Nationl Champioinship as a freshmen would like to speak with you in the kitchen.

    *********

    We talking nba or ncaa…cuz mateen cleaves is coming to meet us inthe kitchen bruh

    —-

    Thats a kinda weak stance to take both ways.

    Then were saying what about Durant, he didnt win one lol.

    Team sport.

    Regardless of wins & losses Carmelo Anthony is one of the best in the NBA. So a player of similar skill/potential is pretty decent.

    ************

    Durant is a winning type player period….great attiude and work ethic…im talking a winning type player in nba…thats the point Duece…I’ve never liked Melo…high volume shooter and cant play D at all…I mean that guy cant guard you or me!

    Melo is a good player but great? No way since his teams havent got out of first round except once

    Chandler isnt the guy….you may as well pick Terrence ross

    —-

    The only winners are the ones with rings.

    Everyone else cant be called a winner. Period.

    Carmelo Anthony can play lock down D when he wants, he has only wanted to 1 year in his pro career.

    I never really cared for Melo either, but I dont let my feelings get in the way of reality.

    TEAM SPORT.

  953. Method To My Madness Says:

    947.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 10:05 am
    Also, the Hornets about to buy out Rashard Lewis, saving around 13 million..

    Drew Brees will get that money.

    *********

    HAHAHAHAHA

  954. hwnrdr Says:

    Dakota Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 10:05 am
    944.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 10:03 am
    LOL, Ford just mentioned the Lakers trading Kobe for Anthony Davis..

    Hornest finally get Kobe back?..

    Chad Ford. lol..

    +++++++++++

    Done deal!

    WHAT? That better be all rumors! :)

  955. hwnrdr Says:

    Oh yeah, forgot about the no trade clause…

  956. Sullivan44 Says:

    Why are Mike and Mike so bad? Because they didn’t talk about the greatness of the Raiders throughout the MNF games they covered in recent years, even though the Raiders had been one of the worst teams in football? What were they supposed to say when Denver was just destroying us in the 2008 MNF opener? “Any second now Al is going to bring out the secret weapons and the Raiders will be back in this!”?

  957. Method To My Madness Says:

    952.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 10:08 am
    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 10:04 am
    937.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 9:52 am
    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 9:46 am
    927.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 9:41 am
    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 9:39 am
    911.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 9:22 am
    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 9:20 am
    906.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 9:15 am
    Wilson Chandler to the W’s for the #7 pick?.. Interesting.

    ****

    Dont like it

    —-

    No one there @7 that is, or most likely will be better than Chandler.

    He’s Carmelo Anthony-Lite.

    *************

    So he isnt a winning player

    —-

    Nationl Champioinship as a freshmen would like to speak with you in the kitchen.

    *********

    We talking nba or ncaa…cuz mateen cleaves is coming to meet us inthe kitchen bruh

    —-

    Thats a kinda weak stance to take both ways.

    Then were saying what about Durant, he didnt win one lol.

    Team sport.

    Regardless of wins & losses Carmelo Anthony is one of the best in the NBA. So a player of similar skill/potential is pretty decent.

    ************

    Durant is a winning type player period….great attiude and work ethic…im talking a winning type player in nba…thats the point Duece…I’ve never liked Melo…high volume shooter and cant play D at all…I mean that guy cant guard you or me!

    Melo is a good player but great? No way since his teams havent got out of first round except once

    Chandler isnt the guy….you may as well pick Terrence ross

    —-

    The only winners are the ones with rings.

    Everyone else cant be called a winner. Period.

    Carmelo Anthony can play lock down D when he wants, he has only wanted to 1 year in his pro career.

    I never really cared for Melo either, but I dont let my feelings get in the way of reality.

    TEAM SPORT.

    ********************

    Defense is always about wanting it…and homeboy doesnt want it enough…he enjoys the lifestyle thats it

    Team sport? Sure it is but the premise if the number 7 pick and Chandler aint enuff of a difference maker for a young W’s squad trying to get to a be a consistent postseason team

    As I said draft Terrence Ross…he can play better D than chandler and provides the above the rim athleticism this team has been lacking at the SF spot

  958. Sullivan44 Says:

    I think the media has actually been too kind to the Raiders. I actually think they were afraid Al would sue them. They should have been much more harsh between 2003 and 2009.

  959. Method To My Madness Says:

    956.Sullivan44 Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 10:09 am
    Why are Mike and Mike so bad? Because they didn’t talk about the greatness of the Raiders throughout the MNF games they covered in recent years, even though the Raiders had been one of the worst teams in football? What were they supposed to say when Denver was just destroying us in the 2008 MNF opener? “Any second now Al is going to bring out the secret weapons and the Raiders will be back in this!”?

    *************

    No…MR they are just boring to listen to…I’m not excited ever listening to them regardless of who is on playing…Golic i can take more than NY boy Greenberg

  960. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    Even though Mike Holmgren will forget more football than I will ever know, I dont understand drafting a RB in the top 10.

    If this offseason taught us anything is that RBs are not as valuable as they were. TDs are scored by QBs & WRs, RB by committee is the trend, and the leagues best backs are out there getting franchise tagged cause nobody wants to give them the big bucks….

    Bad move drafting Richardson

  961. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    IDK about Ross playing better D than Chandler. Possibly, but I just know Ross hasnt checked anyone in the NBA yet.

    I’ll give it a few years.

  962. The Big Banana Says:

    Why are Mike and Mike so bad?

    —————–

    Because they are constantly inventing new ways to see just how far they can stick their heads up their asses.

  963. Dakota Says:

    For me, the low point of the last days of Al was during the Kiffin debacle and the hiring of the Wife Beating Buffoon.

    My friends who are Broncos’ fans, simply stopped even making fun of the Raiders, they just felt sorry for me.

    That was far far worse than getting ridiculed….when the team fell into the pity position.

    But those times are OVER! Long Live Reggie (well, I will give you 3-4 years unless you start acting the fool)!

  964. Method To My Madness Says:

    958.Sullivan44 Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 10:11 am
    I think the media has actually been too kind to the Raiders. I actually think they were afraid Al would sue them. They should have been much more harsh between 2003 and 2009.

    ********

    Whatever…the Raiders got super clowned SullyMR

  965. Method To My Madness Says:

    961.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 10:14 am
    IDK about Ross playing better D than Chandler. Possibly, but I just know Ross hasnt checked anyone in the NBA yet.

    I’ll give it a few years.

    *******************

    Chandler hasnt checked anyone inthe nba himself lmao

  966. Method To My Madness Says:

    963.Dakota Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 10:15 am
    For me, the low point of the last days of Al was during the Kiffin debacle and the hiring of the Wife Beating Buffoon.

    My friends who are Broncos’ fans, simply stopped even making fun of the Raiders, they just felt sorry for me.

    That was far far worse than getting ridiculed….when the team fell into the pity position.

    But those times are OVER! Long Live Reggie (well, I will give you 3-4 years unless you start acting the fool)!

    *********************

    To me the Russell thing pissed me off cuz even Helen Keller could see that guy cant play QB in the nfl…but i love Al but nada made me more pissed than the 49er bs from 2001…his health deteriorated from that point on

  967. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 10:16 am
    961.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 10:14 am
    IDK about Ross playing better D than Chandler. Possibly, but I just know Ross hasnt checked anyone in the NBA yet.

    I’ll give it a few years.

    *******************

    Chandler hasnt checked anyone inthe nba himself lmao

    —-

    I have a buddy who is a Knicks fan, watched a lot of Chandler with him.

    Your off bruh.

  968. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Bad move drafting Richardson

    ***

    @ Randy Savage

    Montario Hardesty, Brandon Jackson & Chris Ogbonnaya = last place in rushing yards & TD’s

    if you don’t have a BALANCED attack, teams can just blitz every down and harrass your QB – forcing sacks, fumbles & INT’s. turnovers = losses

  969. Raidernationdave Says:

    You just noticed?

    ++++++++++++++++++

    The Big Banana Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 9:52 am

    Mike and Mike are awful.

  970. Sullivan44 Says:

    A lot of the media tried to pass off bizarre Raider antics as normal because they didn’t want to get in Al’s doghouse. The Raiders deserved zero respect, zero leeway from the media between the Super Bowl loss and 2009.

  971. hwnrdr Says:

    To me the Russell thing pissed me off cuz even Helen Keller could see that guy cant play QB in the nfl…but i love Al but nada made me more pissed than the 49er bs from 2001…his health deteriorated from that point on

    LOL, Al tried with that one! Loved the big arm, long bomb!

  972. Dakota Says:

    The fall of the Lakers is taking place right now. Jim Buss is intent on running the Lakers under the luxury cap and has been cutting away at the roster while crying poor about the luxary tax and the revenue sharing. Total BS when you are making nearly $200 million a year on a local TV deal that pays all of your expenses before you get a dime from the NBA TV deals, ticket sales and consessions.

    The Lakers have always managed to get a good product on the floor….even after Magic and Worthy retires, the days of Nick the Quick, Eddie Jones, Eldon, Vlade, Cedric….those were fun teams to watch.

    I don’t see the Lakers just re-loading this time. Partly because the owner’s son is running it, and partly because the other owners are tired of the Lakers taking all of the rings.

  973. The Big Banana Says:

    Raidernationdave Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 10:20 am
    You just noticed?

    ++++++++++++++++++

    The Big Banana Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 9:52 am

    Mike and Mike are awful.

    ————

    Noticed long ago and haven’t paid them any attention since. Was just adding my 2 cents to the comment by RRS above. Late to the discussion.

  974. RaiderRockstar Says:

    To me the Russell thing pissed me off cuz even Helen Keller could see that guy cant play QB in the nfl

    ***

    @ROG

    Tom Cable is the guy who gets credit for ousting JaWalrus imo.

    but to be fair, Kiffin made it clear to Davis before the draft that he didn’t want him in the first place!

    poor Greg Knapp

  975. hwnrdr Says:

    Dakota, you’re right though! Buss’ son is running it to the ground! Bring back Jeannie!

  976. 808R8ER Says:

    I believe someone raised the question of Al Saunders’ role in the organization. We know that the Raiders kept him as he was on contract and money would have gone to waste. New regime in; they bring back Knapp. Knapp appears to have control by and large of the offense. I envision Saunders in the booth surveying the battlefield and relaying the information to Knapp on the sideline. Having that tome Saunders brings to the table, can’t hurt either. I’m sure he will have influence, but will go largely unnoticed. At least on the D side of things Bresh set the bar low with his signature dog$#!t defense, so the HC can focus in on, and as a result, become a miracle worker. So be it, time for the Raiders to Reign! Oh and if McClain breaks Peyton’s neck, all will be forgiven.

  977. Dakota Says:

    I forget, which NBA team selected Todd Fuller over Kobe Bryant and Steve Nash?

  978. Method To My Madness Says:

    967.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 10:19 am
    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 10:16 am
    961.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 10:14 am
    IDK about Ross playing better D than Chandler. Possibly, but I just know Ross hasnt checked anyone in the NBA yet.

    I’ll give it a few years.

    *******************

    Chandler hasnt checked anyone inthe nba himself lmao

    —-

    I have a buddy who is a Knicks fan, watched a lot of Chandler with him.

    Your off bruh.

    *******************

    Yeah well I have family members who are Knicks fans…your point? I’m not off at all…he isnt a lockdown defender at all…team defender he is decent but for real lockdown? Never

  979. Method To My Madness Says:

    977.Dakota Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 10:27 am
    I forget, which NBA team selected Todd Fuller over Kobe Bryant and Steve Nash?

    ***********

    I didnt…was truly embarrassing for W’s

  980. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 10:28 am
    967.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 10:19 am
    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 10:16 am
    961.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 10:14 am
    IDK about Ross playing better D than Chandler. Possibly, but I just know Ross hasnt checked anyone in the NBA yet.

    I’ll give it a few years.

    *******************

    Chandler hasnt checked anyone inthe nba himself lmao

    —-

    I have a buddy who is a Knicks fan, watched a lot of Chandler with him.

    Your off bruh.

    *******************

    Yeah well I have family members who are Knicks fans…your point? I’m not off at all…he isnt a lockdown defender at all…team defender he is decent but for real lockdown? Never

    —-

    Who said lockdown?

    Ross isnt a lockdown NBA defender either.

    And im sorry your family are Knick fans.

  981. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 10:28 am
    977.Dakota Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 10:27 am
    I forget, which NBA team selected Todd Fuller over Kobe Bryant and Steve Nash?

    ***********

    I didnt…was truly embarrassing for W’s

    —-

    And traded Penny Hardaway & 3 ist round picks for Chris Webber.

  982. Method To My Madness Says:

    970.Sullivan44 Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 10:21 am
    A lot of the media tried to pass off bizarre Raider antics as normal because they didn’t want to get in Al’s doghouse. The Raiders deserved zero respect, zero leeway from the media between the Super Bowl loss and 2009.

    ***********

    Ok great stuff MR….its 2012…Al Davis has left this realm….move on please…in time all your wounds will heal lil fella

  983. Raidernationdave Says:

    You’re cool bro. I saw that and I was kinda thinking about how those two ever got their radio gigs if for no other reason than the name was catchy.

    The talent level for the both of them amounts to nil. Golic is a buffoon and Greenberg is simply a whiny biatch.

    ++++++++++++++++++

    The Big Banana Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 10:23 am

    Noticed long ago and haven’t paid them any attention since. Was just adding my 2 cents to the comment by RRS above. Late to the discussion.

  984. RaiderRockstar Says:

    @Dakota

    are the Lakers going to trade Bynum, Gasol & Artest away for a bunch of draft picks or what??

    NBA draft lottery takes place tomorrow night, right?

  985. Method To My Madness Says:

    980.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 10:29 am
    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 10:28 am
    967.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 10:19 am
    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 10:16 am
    961.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 10:14 am
    IDK about Ross playing better D than Chandler. Possibly, but I just know Ross hasnt checked anyone in the NBA yet.

    I’ll give it a few years.

    *******************

    Chandler hasnt checked anyone inthe nba himself lmao

    —-

    I have a buddy who is a Knicks fan, watched a lot of Chandler with him.

    Your off bruh.

    *******************

    Yeah well I have family members who are Knicks fans…your point? I’m not off at all…he isnt a lockdown defender at all…team defender he is decent but for real lockdown? Never

    —-

    Who said lockdown?

    Ross isnt a lockdown NBA defender either.

    And im sorry your family are Knick fans.

    **********

    Yeah I am sorry they are as well

    Ross isnt a lockdown defender? puhleeze know what you talking about bruh

  986. Dakota Says:

    984.RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 10:31 am
    @Dakota

    are the Lakers going to trade Bynum, Gasol & Artest away for a bunch of draft picks or what??

    NBA draft lottery takes place tomorrow night, right?

    ++++++++++++

    I wish they could trade Kobe for a pick just to get his cap nemuber off our books. Thanks for the memories Kobe….but it is time to move on!

  987. Method To My Madness Says:

    Duece you can have your view but Ross is totally viewed as a lockdown type of defender…especially on the wing and W’s need that bad

  988. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 10:32 am
    980.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 10:29 am
    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 10:28 am
    967.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 10:19 am
    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 10:16 am
    961.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 10:14 am
    IDK about Ross playing better D than Chandler. Possibly, but I just know Ross hasnt checked anyone in the NBA yet.

    I’ll give it a few years.

    *******************

    Chandler hasnt checked anyone inthe nba himself lmao

    —-

    I have a buddy who is a Knicks fan, watched a lot of Chandler with him.

    Your off bruh.

    *******************

    Yeah well I have family members who are Knicks fans…your point? I’m not off at all…he isnt a lockdown defender at all…team defender he is decent but for real lockdown? Never

    —-

    Who said lockdown?

    Ross isnt a lockdown NBA defender either.

    And im sorry your family are Knick fans.

    **********

    Yeah I am sorry they are as well

    Ross isnt a lockdown defender? puhleeze know what you talking about bruh

    —-

    lLckdown ‘NBA’ defender. No.

    He cant be due to the fact he isnt in the NBA yet.

    Come on Meth..

  989. Dakota Says:

    number* Dayyyyum….3 hours of sleep catching up to me.

  990. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Matt Barnes is a lockdown wing defender.

    Petrius too.

    Problem is there isnt a lockdown wing defender in the NBA who matters against Kobe, Lebron, Durant etc..

  991. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Love the fact that Miami picks 27th & Lake Show is 60th!!

  992. Method To My Madness Says:

    988.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 10:34 am
    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 10:32 am
    980.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 10:29 am
    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 10:28 am
    967.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 10:19 am
    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 10:16 am
    961.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 10:14 am
    IDK about Ross playing better D than Chandler. Possibly, but I just know Ross hasnt checked anyone in the NBA yet.

    I’ll give it a few years.

    *******************

    Chandler hasnt checked anyone inthe nba himself lmao

    —-

    I have a buddy who is a Knicks fan, watched a lot of Chandler with him.

    Your off bruh.

    *******************

    Yeah well I have family members who are Knicks fans…your point? I’m not off at all…he isnt a lockdown defender at all…team defender he is decent but for real lockdown? Never

    —-

    Who said lockdown?

    Ross isnt a lockdown NBA defender either.

    And im sorry your family are Knick fans.

    **********

    Yeah I am sorry they are as well

    Ross isnt a lockdown defender? puhleeze know what you talking about bruh

    —-

    lLckdown ‘NBA’ defender. No.

    He cant be due to the fact he isnt in the NBA yet.

    Come on Meth..

    **************

    OK see your point…but reason why he is being talked so highly is becuz of length athleticism and his potential to be a lockdown defender…thats what im getting at

  993. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 10:36 am
    Love the fact that Miami picks 27th & Lake Show is 60th!!

    —-

    When did you become a Heat fan?

  994. Method To My Madness Says:

    990.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 10:36 am
    Matt Barnes is a lockdown wing defender.

    Petrius too.

    Problem is there isnt a lockdown wing defender in the NBA who matters against Kobe, Lebron, Durant etc..

    *******

    Matt Barnes is not lockdown…he ia good defender tho

  995. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 10:37 am
    988.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 10:34 am
    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 10:32 am
    980.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 10:29 am
    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 10:28 am
    967.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 10:19 am
    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 10:16 am
    961.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 10:14 am
    IDK about Ross playing better D than Chandler. Possibly, but I just know Ross hasnt checked anyone in the NBA yet.

    I’ll give it a few years.

    *******************

    Chandler hasnt checked anyone inthe nba himself lmao

    —-

    I have a buddy who is a Knicks fan, watched a lot of Chandler with him.

    Your off bruh.

    *******************

    Yeah well I have family members who are Knicks fans…your point? I’m not off at all…he isnt a lockdown defender at all…team defender he is decent but for real lockdown? Never

    —-

    Who said lockdown?

    Ross isnt a lockdown NBA defender either.

    And im sorry your family are Knick fans.

    **********

    Yeah I am sorry they are as well

    Ross isnt a lockdown defender? puhleeze know what you talking about bruh

    —-

    lLckdown ‘NBA’ defender. No.

    He cant be due to the fact he isnt in the NBA yet.

    Come on Meth..

    **************

    OK see your point…but reason why he is being talked so highly is becuz of length athleticism and his potential to be a lockdown defender…thats what im getting at

    —-

    Totally agree.

    I like Ross.

  996. RaiderRockstar Says:

    When did you become a Heat fan?

    ***

    @DAV

    when they united the “Big 3″

  997. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 10:37 am
    990.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 10:36 am
    Matt Barnes is a lockdown wing defender.

    Petrius too.

    Problem is there isnt a lockdown wing defender in the NBA who matters against Kobe, Lebron, Durant etc..

    *******

    Matt Barnes is not lockdown…he ia good defender tho

    —-

    I should say ‘was’. The 1 year with us he locked everything down.

    Like Artest WAS..

  998. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “Ok great stuff MR….its 2012…Al Davis has left this realm….move on please…in time all your wounds will heal lil fella”

    Whats so funny is that little troll was trying so hard to get a reaction from his anti-Raider rants but everyone just completely ignored him that must make him so angry.

  999. Dakota Says:

    996.RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 10:38 am
    When did you become a Heat fan?

    ***

    @DAV

    when they united the “Big 3″

    +++++++++++

    Rockstar is a mercenary NBA fan…whichever team wants his services he accommodates….like a fan prostitute or something lol.

  1000. hwnrdr Says:

    Dakota Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 10:27 am
    I forget, which NBA team selected Todd Fuller over Kobe Bryant and Steve Nash?

    OUCH!

  1001. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 10:38 am
    When did you become a Heat fan?

    ***

    @DAV

    when they united the “Big 3″

    —-

    WOW.

    That’s embarassing man lol..

  1002. Sullivan44 Says:

    I love it when people say they’re ignoring you as they respond to you. Only here.

  1003. Sullivan44 Says:

    666…is basically a guy who follows you everywhere you go, and yells in your face, “I’m ignoring you! I’m ignoring you!”

  1004. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    Anyone see a big trade in 2013?
    Or will the every other year blockbuster trade be done with?

    05′ Moss
    07′Hall
    09′Seymour
    11′Palmer
    13′…

  1005. DJ Johnny Says:

    970.Sullivan44 Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 10:21 am
    A lot of the media tried to pass off bizarre Raider antics as normal because they didn’t want to get in Al’s doghouse. The Raiders deserved zero respect, zero leeway from the media between the Super Bowl loss and 2009.

    I don’t know man. It seemed to me the media ripped on the Raiders every chance they got.

    I guess it depends on who it is doing the “critique’s”.

    My opinion is the Raiders being good is good for the league.

    I never got the feeling in the last decade that the media was going easy on us though.

    None of us really know how good we’ll be this yr.

    On paper, it makes sense to me how we SHOULD be 10-6, 11-5…something like that, but you just never know till you play the games.

  1006. RaiderRockstar Says:

    NBA Draft 2012:

    5 Rookies Who Can Help Miami Heat Defend Their Title

    1. Festus Ezeli
    2. Draymond Green
    3. Jeff Taylor
    4. Miles Plumlee
    5. Will Barton

    By Jeremy Fuchs (06/26/12)

  1007. Silverandblack666 Says:

    LOL now the little troll is getting mad.

    He gets so frustrated when we don’t play his game.

    Poor little guy someone please feed the troll he is so hungry!

  1008. Method To My Madness Says:

    997.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 10:38 am
    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 10:37 am
    990.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 10:36 am
    Matt Barnes is a lockdown wing defender.

    Petrius too.

    Problem is there isnt a lockdown wing defender in the NBA who matters against Kobe, Lebron, Durant etc..

    *******

    Matt Barnes is not lockdown…he ia good defender tho

    —-

    I should say ‘was’. The 1 year with us he locked everything down.

    Like Artest WAS..

    **************

    Tough when you get in your 30s….i feel lakers need some athletic people at the PF,SF and PG spots

  1009. Method To My Madness Says:

    1006.RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 10:47 am
    NBA Draft 2012:

    5 Rookies Who Can Help Miami Heat Defend Their Title

    1. Festus Ezeli
    2. Draymond Green
    3. Jeff Taylor
    4. Miles Plumlee
    5. Will Barton

    By Jeremy Fuchs (06/26/12)

    ******

    they get Ezeli and no one is driving tothe cup on them at all

  1010. hwnrdr Says:

    Tough when you get in your 30s….i feel lakers need some athletic people at the PF,SF and PG spots

    Yup! Age and experience will only last so long!

  1011. The Big Banana Says:

    Raidernationdave Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 10:30 am
    You’re cool bro. I saw that and I was kinda thinking about how those two ever got their radio gigs if for no other reason than the name was catchy.

    The talent level for the both of them amounts to nil. Golic is a buffoon and Greenberg is simply a whiny biatch.

    ++++++++++++++++++

    The Big Banana Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 10:23 am

    Noticed long ago and haven’t paid them any attention since. Was just adding my 2 cents to the comment by RRS above. Late to the discussion.

    ———————

    Greenberg, especially. Guy’s a certified loon. Was too embarrassed for him to be able to stomach much of his schtick.

  1012. Method To My Madness Says:

    MR…let it go bruh…at least focus all your hate towards trask or reggie…if not then shut the fk up man

  1013. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Rockstar is a mercenary NBA fan…whichever team wants his services he accommodates….like a fan prostitute or something

    WOW.

    That’s embarassing man

    ***

    @Dakota – the Lakers have been begging for my support for years. Same with the Kings, Warriors & Clippers. Pass!

    @DAV – why? I’m a fan of James, Bosh & Wade. Makes sense to root for the Heat. LeBron is my favorite player since Iverson exited the NBA.

    I rooted for AI in Philly, Denver, Detroit & Memphis.
    Get off my nuts!

  1014. Method To My Madness Says:

    hwnrdr…lakers need a rugged PF if they cant get an athletic one….need a high flyer at SF to match with kobe on wing….and a fleet foot matchup nightmare at PG…..keep bynum tho…build your best get rid of that trash they have

  1015. Sullivan44 Says:

    Johnny, you think the media ripped on the Raiders every chance they got because you’re a fan boy who takes every hint of criticism personally. I was a fan but at the same time knew that Davis was destroying the team. And I’m telling you, the media walked on egg shells. That run between 2003 and 2009 is one of the worst of any sports teams ever. And really, the Raiders only made the news when something big happened. The media should have given that team no respect.

  1016. JR Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 10:42 am

    666…is basically a guy who follows you everywhere you go, and yells in your face, “I’m ignoring you! I’m ignoring you!”
    ————————————————-
    Hi Sean,

    How are your brothers?

    I’m sorry to hear about the trouble that you are having.

    Some cooperation would be appreciated.

    Anyway, back to Raider talk.

    How do you feel about Reggie McKenzie’s twin brother?

  1017. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 10:52 am
    Rockstar is a mercenary NBA fan…whichever team wants his services he accommodates….like a fan prostitute or something

    WOW.

    That’s embarassing man

    ***

    @Dakota – the Lakers have been begging for my support for years. Same with the Kings, Warriors & Clippers. Pass!

    @DAV – why? I’m a fan of James, Bosh & Wade. Makes sense to root for the Heat. LeBron is my favorite player since Iverson exited the NBA.

    I rooted for AI in Philly, Denver, Detroit & Memphis.
    Get off my nuts!

    —-

    You cant claim to have nuts, and be a bandwagon fan.

    Just like I told my co-worker who was a “Iverson Fan”, grow a pair and pick a team, stick with them.

    Just like all the “Jordan fans” who were really BUlls fans til they sucked.

  1018. Method To My Madness Says:

    RRS…get ya Warrior jersey on bruh!

  1019. Sullivan44 Says:

    Brien,

    Why would I hate Reggie McKenzie? I’ve been a supporter of his since day one.

  1020. Silverandblack666 Says:

    B@uce ripped him I ignored him so he is desperately seeking attention from Johnny.

    Johnny do NOT take the bait!

  1021. Method To My Madness Says:

    1016.JR Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 10:54 am
    Sullivan44 Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 10:42 am

    666…is basically a guy who follows you everywhere you go, and yells in your face, “I’m ignoring you! I’m ignoring you!”
    ————————————————-
    Hi Sean,

    How are your brothers?

    I’m sorry to hear about the trouble that you are having.

    Some cooperation would be appreciated.

    Anyway, back to Raider talk.

    How do you feel about Reggie McKenzie’s twin brother?

    *********

    Dont know yet…lets hope they got a great plan to get us back into deep january runs again

  1022. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    But I imagine that’s what makes up a good 60-70% of all Heat fans, people like that.

  1023. Method To My Madness Says:

    1019.Sullivan44 Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 10:55 am
    Brien,

    Why would I hate Reggie McKenzie? I’ve been a supporter of his since day one.

    ********

    Pick someone who is alive at least…Al is gone and not coming back…id think you would be more positive but you got worse man…must be the 49er in you

  1024. Sullivan44 Says:

    Yeah, Johnny, don’t take the bait. Just respond to me vicariously in 3rd person, and pretend you’re ignoring me, like 666.

  1025. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Its like all the guys who PC up in prison making a gang. That’s the Heat fans.

  1026. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    Whatever happened to loyalty???

  1027. Method To My Madness Says:

    I hated the Bulls and MJ….made me sick all of the bandwagoning with that

  1028. RaiderRockstar Says:

    You cant claim to have nuts, and be a bandwagon fan

    ***

    @DAV

    why? who says? does Missouri have an NBA team?

    since i’m from the 209 it’s automatic I should be a Kings or Warriors fan ??

    get the heck outta here with that

  1029. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 10:57 am
    I hated the Bulls and MJ….made me sick all of the bandwagoning with that

    —-

    The Nick Anderson steal in the ECF was one of my favorite memories asa Magic fan..

  1030. Method To My Madness Says:

    1026.Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 10:57 am
    Whatever happened to loyalty???

    *****************

    What is that?

  1031. Method To My Madness Says:

    1029.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 10:58 am
    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 10:57 am
    I hated the Bulls and MJ….made me sick all of the bandwagoning with that

    —-

    The Nick Anderson steal in the ECF was one of my favorite memories asa Magic fan..
    *********

    I remember that game like it was yesterday…was on a Sunday…made me go to the park right afterwards and work on my game

  1032. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 10:58 am
    You cant claim to have nuts, and be a bandwagon fan

    ***

    @DAV

    why? who says? does Missouri have an NBA team?

    since i’m from the 209 it’s automatic I should be a Kings or Warriors fan ??

    get the heck outta here with that

    —-

    Im from Central California.

    Been a Magic fan since they were created.

    Anti-bandwagon.

  1033. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “Pick someone who is alive at least…Al is gone and not coming back…id think you would be more positive but you got worse man…must be the 49er in you”

    The little troll seems to hate Amy Trask as she is a successful business woman who is in charge of one of the greatest sports franchises to ever exist and to a little demented virgin troll that has never even smelt a fur pie that must be intimidating.

    I agree with you B@uce its very pathetic to kick dirt on a dead man and shows what kind of low class person you really are.

  1034. Method To My Madness Says:

    1028.RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 10:58 am
    You cant claim to have nuts, and be a bandwagon fan

    ***

    @DAV

    why? who says? does Missouri have an NBA team?

    since i’m from the 209 it’s automatic I should be a Kings or Warriors fan ??

    get the heck outta here with that

    *********

    Thunder should be playing at Sprint Center…until then the Mizzou Tigers are the nba team!

  1035. hwnrdr Says:

    Probably a Kings fan since 209 is closer to Sac then Oakland, I believe!
    Hey I admit, I was an MJ fan, in his prime!
    Was very torn in 91! He was fun to watch!

  1036. RaiderRockstar Says:

    people like that.

    Whatever happened to loyalty???

    ***

    @DAV – people like what?

    @HB – it’s not like I had a favorite NBA team and abandoned them because they sucked. If that were the case, how could I be a Raider fan? They haven’t won a ring since I was like 6 months old. I’m 29 now. don’t question my loyalty. I live in MO and I’m surrounded by KC fans daily, thanks

  1037. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Looks like the Cavs are closing in on the #2 pick..

    Bobcats asked for Varajeo & 2 #1’s..

  1038. Method To My Madness Says:

    http://www.slamonline.com/online/college-hs/college/2012/06/nike-skills-recap/

    Michael Dixon, 6-1, Senior, Missouri

    With the eligibility of Marcus Denmon and Kim English exhausted, Dixon should go from sixth man to primary perimeter option for the Tigers and he looked ready for the job, as he was extremely vocal and knocked down long-distance jumpers.

    B@uce!…Rozzzzzzzzay!

  1039. Sullivan44 Says:

    Nothing wrong with being a sports fan but “loyalty” is kind of deep, isn’t it? If some teams ownership pisses you off to the point to where they’re unwatchable, you’re not obligated to continue throwing your money at them. People who think you are must be brainwashed clowns.

  1040. JR Says:

    If I had a twin brother, I’d probably hire him too.

  1041. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Im from Central California.

    Been a Magic fan since they were created.

    Anti-bandwagon.

    ***

    so if I’m not like you, I don’t have nuts?

    LOL!

    that would be like me calling you nutless for being anti-Giordano because I don’t agree with it

  1042. hwnrdr Says:

    Actually if you think about it, loyalty is very non-existant today! Look at the Niner fans…when they were losing, and again when they lost in the NFC title game….did you see many of their jerseys around?

  1043. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    @RRS.. umm people like you..

    Who have been a Heat fan for as long as my 1 1/2 year old daughter has been alive..

    Not a dig at you personally. Just at your fanhood.

  1044. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Probably a Kings fan since 209 is closer to Sac then Oakland, I believe!

    ***

    @Hwnrdr

    you’re correct.
    Sac was 45 minutes away. Oak was 2 hours away

    Again, i’m not into the geographical area stuff or I would have converted to being a KC Chefs fan 6 years ago

  1045. hwnrdr Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 11:07 am
    Probably a Kings fan since 209 is closer to Sac then Oakland, I believe!

    ***

    @Hwnrdr

    you’re correct.
    Sac was 45 minutes away. Oak was 2 hours away

    Again, i’m not into the geographical area stuff or I would have converted to being a KC Chefs fan 6 years ago

    True…!

  1046. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Not a dig at you personally. Just at your fanhood

    ***

    @DAV

    that is a dig at me!

    go jump in the lake

  1047. Sullivan44 Says:

    “loyalty”….kind of a deep term for sports. It’s entertainment, dude. Nothing wrong with a favorite team. But loyalty? I dunno.

  1048. Method To My Madness Says:

    1044.RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 11:07 am
    Probably a Kings fan since 209 is closer to Sac then Oakland, I believe!

    ***

    @Hwnrdr

    you’re correct.
    Sac was 45 minutes away. Oak was 2 hours away

    Again, i’m not into the geographical area stuff or I would have converted to being a KC Chefs fan 6 years ago

    *******************

    Geographical…key word GRAPHIC lol..is definitely me

  1049. Method To My Madness Says:

    1047.Sullivan44 Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 11:10 am
    “loyalty”….kind of a deep term for sports. It’s entertainment, dude. Nothing wrong with a favorite team. But loyalty? I dunno.

    ******

    So nada wrong with your 49er fanhood eh?

  1050. hwnrdr Says:

    Supporting your team doesn’t mean dishing out cash just to do so. Hats are like what? $18 bucks? I guess loyalty means that you will never have another team that you’re heart belongs to!

  1051. Method To My Madness Says:

    1050.hwnrdr Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 11:11 am
    Supporting your team doesn’t mean dishing out cash just to do so. Hats are like what? $18 bucks? I guess loyalty means that you will never have another team that you’re heart belongs to!

    ******************

    MR’s belongs to SF

  1052. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 11:05 am
    Im from Central California.

    Been a Magic fan since they were created.

    Anti-bandwagon.

    ***

    so if I’m not like you, I don’t have nuts?

    LOL!

    that would be like me calling you nutless for being anti-Giordano because I don’t agree with it

    —-

    Not even close.

    Were talking teams here.

    WAY deeper than players.

  1053. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 11:09 am
    Not a dig at you personally. Just at your fanhood

    ***

    @DAV

    that is a dig at me!

    go jump in the lake

    —-

    Not a bad idea with the weather..

  1054. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 11:02 am
    people like that.

    Whatever happened to loyalty???

    ***

    @DAV – people like what?

    @HB – it’s not like I had a favorite NBA team and abandoned them because they sucked. If that were the case, how could I be a Raider fan? They haven’t won a ring since I was like 6 months old. I’m 29 now. don’t question my loyalty. I live in MO and I’m surrounded by KC fans daily, thanks
    ——————
    That comment wasn’t directed at you.
    I was making a general statement.

    For example, when it comes to players sticking with the team that gave them a chance and drafted them to people jumping from job to job after an employer took a shot on a them as a kid fresh out of school.

    Back in the day a lot of people would have been more apt to stay with the team/employer who believed in them because they felt it was the right thing. Now it’s show me the $$ more often than not.

    Loyalty is valued just about as highly as marriage nowadays, unfortunetley. (Yes, I’m aware your happily married, So once again not directed at you) Just making a point.

    That being said, I don’t agree with team jumping because you like a player. Pick a team for whatever reason you believe is right and stick with them thru thick and thin. Is it possible you try to follow a winning team in B-ball because our beloved Raiders have been less than spectcular?

    Al Davis’s loyalty and doing things his way were 2 of the biggest reasons I became a Raiders fan.
    Oh yeah, and kick ass uniforms lol

  1055. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    You CANNOT jump from team to team because of a player.

    Cant. Not at all. No exceptions.

  1056. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Were talking teams here.

    WAY deeper than players.

    ***

    Again, who cares about that? throw that mindset out the window. where were you when all these Laker fans in here were rooting for OKC against Miami because their team was out of it?

    seen plenty of comments about Durant, Westbrook, Harden, etc in here from non-OKC fans.

    you just can’t stand it when somebody doesn’t think or act like you. get over yourself, u judgemental pile of crap

  1057. Method To My Madness Says:

    you just can’t stand it when somebody doesn’t think or act like you. get over yourself, u judgemental pile of crap

    *********

    LOL…sounds like someone we all know on this blog

  1058. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 11:19 am
    Were talking teams here.

    WAY deeper than players.

    ***

    Again, who cares about that? throw that mindset out the window. where were you when all these Laker fans in here were rooting for OKC against Miami because their team was out of it?

    seen plenty of comments about Durant, Westbrook, Harden, etc in here from non-OKC fans.

    you just can’t stand it when somebody doesn’t think or act like you. get over yourself, u judgemental pile of crap

    —-

    I have no problem if people think different.

    Im calling you out on FANdom 101.

    Your a team hopper. Period.

    Just take it. Dont make an excuse or take the MR route and insult, Man up and own it.

  1059. Sullivan44 Says:

    loyalty to sports teams has a 3rd world ring to it. All I can think of are soccer riots in poverty torn countries. Don’t think it’s a good direction to head in. All of this overdone loyalty to sports teams in America, kind of creepy.

  1060. RaiderRockstar Says:

    You CANNOT jump from team to team because of a player.

    Cant. Not at all. No exceptions.

    ***

    see? DAV thinks he makes up the rules.

    sorry. not submitting to your self-proclaimed authority

    guess what jackwad? I’m sure I bunch of guys converted to RAIDER FANS due to the players we had in the 70’s & early 80’s

  1061. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    I liked Asomugha and could care less about the Eagles.
    If I am watching a game that has a player that I used to like from the Raiders I may watch him just to see if he is succeeding/failing but have no alegience to the team what so ever.

    Charles Woodson is another example

  1062. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 11:25 am
    I liked Asomugha and could care less about the Eagles.
    If I am watching a game that has a player that I used to like from the Raiders I may watch him just to see if he is succeeding/failing but have no alegience to the team what so ever.

    Charles Woodson is another example

    —-

    THIS.

  1063. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Im calling you out on FANdom 101.

    Your a team hopper. Period.

    Just take it. Dont make an excuse or take the MR route and insult, Man up and own it.

    ***

    i’m defending myself because I disagree with the label you’re trying to pin on me.

    I think you’re keeping at it, because you’re trying to get under my skin. you enjoy it, like Sully

    perhaps you’re not worth it.
    Unfortunate, because I usually only ignore the trolls

  1064. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 11:23 am
    You CANNOT jump from team to team because of a player.

    Cant. Not at all. No exceptions.

    ***

    see? DAV thinks he makes up the rules.

    sorry. not submitting to your self-proclaimed authority

    guess what jackwad? I’m sure I bunch of guys converted to RAIDER FANS due to the players we had in the 70’s & early 80’s

    —-

    I didnt make that up.

    That IS the rule. Always has been, always will be.

    That’s why the term bandwagon was used in the first place.

  1065. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    RRS, not even close.

    Im not trying to get under your skin, get you mad, talk down to you etc… NOTHING.

    Im just saying how it is and always has been.

    And, no I didnt make the rule.

  1066. Sullivan44 Says:

    Yes, you CAN jump from team to team because of a player. Who the hell says you can’t?

  1067. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “you just can’t stand it when somebody doesn’t think or act like you. get over yourself, u judgemental pile of crap

    *********

    LOL…sounds like someone we all know on this blog”

    Yes I think I know what you are saying…..

  1068. alf_capone Says:

    real fans dont jump from team to team

  1069. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Rooting for the Thunder to beat the Heat does not make someone a Thunder fan.

    If that was the case im a fan of every NBA team the plays the Lakers.

  1070. RaiderRockstar Says:

    im a fan of every NBA team that plays the Lakers

    ***

    me too!

  1071. hwnrdr Says:

    Actually I have two friends, one male, one female who likes The Lakers because of Kobe Bryant. Both of them said that if Kobe switched teams, they woudl follow him. Actually the guy said that he would just be a fan of the NBA when Kobe leaves/retires! I have no problem with that! I always have to set people straight though…I am a Laker fan, not a Kobe fan! And speaking of bandwagons…yes, I became a fan because of the original Lakeshow….SHOWTIME! That was 79, 80…stuck with them since! Almost as long as I was a Raider/A’s fan! Have the shirt to prove it also! :)

  1072. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “I think you’re keeping at it, because you’re trying to get under my skin. you enjoy it, like Sully

    perhaps you’re not worth it.
    Unfortunate, because I usually only ignore the trolls”

    Yes I think I know what you are saying…..

  1073. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 11:29 am
    Yes, you CAN jump from team to team because of a player. Who the hell says you can’t?

    —-

    :)

    If I was a real Heat fan from day 1, I would be PISSED off that a guy is trying to join in on the celebration because he became a fan a year and a half ago.

    THAT guy says you cant.

    If you werent there when they were losing dont try to be there when they are winning.

  1074. lefty12 Says:

    You are 100% correct DAV.There are numerous instances where players who Raider fans probably hated on other teams became Raiders and we fans rooted for them.Romo and Alzado are 2 that come to mind.The only one I can think of who I personally could NEVER root for was fairy Rice.Yet when a player leaves you can follow the player,still like him,but you should never root for his new team,ie. Stabler to Houston or Flores to KC.

  1075. alf_capone Says:

    If you werent there when they were losing dont try to be there when they are winning.

    =========================================================

    exactly. well said. discussion over.

  1076. Sullivan44 Says:

    A “real fan” can do whatever they want, even jump team to team. You can be a fan of a player. There’s nothing wrong with that. Shoe me a law that says you can’t. Who dictates this stuff?

  1077. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Nice post Lefty but Flores went to Seattle remember?

  1078. hwnrdr Says:

    Ahhh, DAV…
    The old Will Smith saying…
    If you weren’t here for my struggles, then I don’t want you here for my success! I kind of agree with that, but not gonna get down on anyone that just doesn’t have a team!
    I do get both sides of this!
    I cheer for the W’s because they are my home team and I would love to see them do good, just not against the Lakers…like I hardly watch hockey, but became a Kings fan when The Great One arrived in LA (and then the color change)…root for the Sharks because they are the home team. Like I said, doesn’t bother me…

  1079. RaiderRockstar Says:

    If you werent there when they were losing dont try to be there when they are winning.

    ***

    @DAV

    so anybody that decides to become an NBA or NFL fan, should automatically pick a losing team or they are considered “bandwagon” and have no nuts? Gotcha

    I bet that describes 90% of the Raider fans on this blog, myself excluded

  1080. Sullivan44 Says:

    Could this overdone loyalty to sports team be part of America’s decline into a 3rd world country? Think we might see a riot in America like those European soccer riots? What happened at the stick last year was close. Shots were fired.

  1081. alf_capone Says:

    its an unwritten rule. if u are gonna jump from team to team you are not a “real fan”. you cant be a true supporter of a team if you are just going to jump to the next team a yr or two later.

  1082. lefty12 Says:

    666-as a player he went to KC and was their BU QB when they won their only SB I believe.

  1083. Silverandblack666 Says:

    I seriously doubt that anyone here would take advice on fan loyalty from the blog troll who’s loyalty is feeding his insecurities while kicking dirt on dead men.

  1084. hwnrdr Says:

    And guys, I’m not chooing sides, just putting my opinion out there…
    and to add to that, I am from Hawaii! The last semi pro team there was The Hawaii Islanders…I think it was the Padre’s farm team???

  1085. Sullivan44 Says:

    An unwritten rule by whom?

    I flat out object to your definition of a “real fan”. A free American citizen has every right to be a fan of a particular pro athlete instead of a sports team. Who are you to say otherwise?

  1086. alf_capone Says:

    Could this overdone loyalty to sports team be part of America’s decline into a 3rd world country?

    ———————————————————

    wait are you just saying dumb sh#t to get a response from people. i get it now

  1087. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    If I was a real Heat fan from day 1, I would be PISSED off that a guy is trying to join in on the celebration because he became a fan a year and a half ago.

    THAT guy says you cant.

    If you werent there when they were losing dont try to be there when they are winning.
    ———————
    Being a displaced Raiders fan, I take ALOT of crap from all the Patriots fans I am surrounded by.

    BUT…The one thing they all agree on is when the Raiders return to glory (and they will) They can’t say I’m a frontrunner. They all tell me “man you are definetley not a bandwagon fan!”
    I personally take a lot of pride in that. I believe you enjoy the good times even more when you go thru the tough times. I can’t tell you the last time I missed a Raider game. I go whenever they are within a reasonable distance of my area. I scheduled my daughters baptism around the Raider bye week!!! MY House is silver and black!

  1088. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “666-as a player he went to KC and was their BU QB when they won their only SB I believe.”

    Now I see where you were going with that thanks for clearing that up. You are right when Stabler went to Houston it was tough to watch.

  1089. Sullivan44 Says:

    This loyalty stuff is a marketing gimmick anyway. It’s how they keep fans buying season tickets even when the team sucks.

  1090. hwnrdr Says:

    Don’t forget when The ghost went there, as well as Tatum!

  1091. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 11:38 am
    If you werent there when they were losing dont try to be there when they are winning.

    ***

    @DAV

    so anybody that decides to become an NBA or NFL fan, should automatically pick a losing team or they are considered “bandwagon” and have no nuts? Gotcha

    I bet that describes 90% of the Raider fans on this blog, myself excluded

    —-

    No, if your new to the sport, have never liked a team, of course you pick a team. AND STICK TO THEM.

    Thats usually what happens with kids though, not adults.

    You stated that you followed Iverson around etc..

    You obviously followed the game enough..

  1092. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “wait are you just saying dumb sh#t to get a response from people. i get it now”

    Now you see how his game is played! Well done Alf Capone you caught on fast.

    Its called trolling!

  1093. Sullivan44 Says:

    If Raider fans weren’t so loyal, Al would have had two options:

    1) hire a GM

    2) Sell the team.

    Because no city was going to take him, not after the LA/Oakland fiasco.

    You can thank this Raider loyalty for the fact that the team sucked for so long. Al played on it. You idiots.

  1094. Method To My Madness Says:

    The only one I can think of who I personally could NEVER root for was fairy Rice.
    *****************

    Leftster this is why I always appreciate you even when you get pissed at me…more should have took on this attitude like we did

  1095. hwnrdr Says:

    Closing in on 1100…why not a post about Burris’ birthday today? Better than nothing…oh well!

  1096. Method To My Madness Says:

    1093.Sullivan44 Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 11:44 am
    If Raider fans weren’t so loyal, Al would have had two options:

    1) hire a GM

    2) Sell the team.

    Because no city was going to take him, not after the LA/Oakland fiasco.

    You can thank this Raider loyalty for the fact that the team sucked for so long. Al played on it. You idiots.

    ********

    Let it go MR

  1097. Sullivan44 Says:

    Loyalty should always be a two way street. With Davis, it was one way and one way only. Davis screwed you guys left and right, and you took it. Out of loyalty. Shameful.

  1098. alf_capone Says:

    so anybody that decides to become an NBA or NFL fan, should automatically pick a losing team or they are considered “bandwagon” and have no nuts
    ———————————————————

    its not the same if youre a new fan. just as long as you dont go from one team to another.

  1099. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    If someone came in here that was a Browns fan, and we just won the Super Bowl, Im sure all of you would just welcome him with open arms.

    #SARCASM

  1100. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Alf just don’t talk directly to it, it feeds on your posts.

    Ignore it and our overall IQ on this blog will increase by 20 points!

  1101. hwnrdr Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 11:44 am
    The only one I can think of who I personally could NEVER root for was fairy Rice.
    *****************

    Leftster this is why I always appreciate you even when you get pissed at me…more should have took on this attitude like we did

    Remember all those fans with the half and half Rice jerseys? I remember saying, WTF was that!?

  1102. Method To My Madness Says:

    1101.hwnrdr Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 11:46 am
    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 11:44 am
    The only one I can think of who I personally could NEVER root for was fairy Rice.
    *****************

    Leftster this is why I always appreciate you even when you get pissed at me…more should have took on this attitude like we did

    Remember all those fans with the half and half Rice jerseys? I remember saying, WTF was that!?

    *****************

    punks

  1103. hwnrdr Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 11:45 am
    If someone came in here that was a Browns fan, and we just won the Super Bowl, Im sure all of you would just welcome him with open arms.

    #SARCASM

    Actually, I would say welcome to the darkside, but not with open arms! If he stayed with the team after that, through good and bad, then…well, you know what I’m saying!

  1104. lefty12 Says:

    B,I may get pissed,but I always appreciate the passion for the S&B.I know your heart is in the right place and there is nothing wrong with disagreeing.

  1105. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “Remember all those fans with the half and half Rice jerseys? I remember saying, WTF was that!?”

    Yeah like those tards during the 1989 world series with half Giants half A’s hats. WTF was that?

  1106. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Last year I was a Giants fan, cuz I like Eli..

    Before that I liked New Orleans, cuz of Brees…

    Before that….

    See where this is going lol

  1107. hwnrdr Says:

    LOL…Brien said he seen that this past Saturday!

  1108. RaiderRockstar Says:

    if your new to the sport, have never liked a team, of course you pick a team. AND STICK TO THEM.

    Thats usually what happens with kids though, not adults.

    You stated that you followed Iverson around etc..

    You obviously followed the game enough..

    ***

    “have never liked a team” ??

    I just told you I don’t have an NBA team. I follow players. I already pointed out that I wasn’t just a fan of a certain team and then ditched them because they sucked.

    I like Miami because of LeBron. People liked Chicago because of Jordan. I liked Philly because of Iverson. People liked the Lakers because of Magic. People liked the Celtics because of Bird. People like OKC because of Durant

    so what the heck is your problem, again?

  1109. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    Remember all those fans with the half and half Rice jerseys? I remember saying, WTF was that!?
    —————
    When you say half and half, Do you mean literally half 9ers half Raiders?

  1110. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    hwnrdr Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 11:48 am
    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 11:45 am
    If someone came in here that was a Browns fan, and we just won the Super Bowl, Im sure all of you would just welcome him with open arms.

    #SARCASM

    Actually, I would say welcome to the darkside, but not with open arms! If he stayed with the team after that, through good and bad, then…well, you know what I’m saying!

    —-

    Not me.

    To quote KOBE “You werent in the gym shooting jumpers with me”… :)

  1111. hwnrdr Says:

    I guess that is why I could never bring myself to buying a Rice jersey! I do have an autographed Rice pic showing him scoring a TD over a Donkey…it was given to me for my birthday in 2003!

  1112. RaiderRockstar Says:

    If someone came in here that was a Browns fan, and we just won the Super Bowl, Im sure all of you would just welcome him with open arms.

    #SARCASM

    ***

    @DAV

    did LeBron win a trophy the day he signed with Miami?

    stupid comparison

  1113. Plunketthead Says:

    Woohoo!!! what are we debating today?

    Which one of these teams will play the huns for the title?

    Spain 5
    Portugal 1

  1114. hwnrdr Says:

    Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 11:50 am
    Remember all those fans with the half and half Rice jerseys? I remember saying, WTF was that!?
    —————
    When you say half and half, Do you mean literally half 9ers half Raiders?

    Yup! I had to shake my head and walk away from that one!

  1115. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    You have not team? That’s what I was asking you when you said this.. –>

    When did you become a Heat fan?

    ***
    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 10:38 am

    @DAV

    when they united the “Big 3″

    —–

    Is there a misunderstanding??

  1116. hwnrdr Says:

    DAV, not disagreeing with you, just saying what I think…that’s all!

  1117. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Most of us here were born Raider fans it was breed into us and our parents were Raider fans so its a family thing as well above and beyond being just a fan of football its a life choice or a life style.

    One unique thing about Raider fans is we will see another Raider fan we don’t know stranger on the street and we will shout RAIDERS!!!!

    Its a beautiful part in my life that will never change.

  1118. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 11:52 am
    If someone came in here that was a Browns fan, and we just won the Super Bowl, Im sure all of you would just welcome him with open arms.

    #SARCASM

    ***

    @DAV

    did LeBron win a trophy the day he signed with Miami?

    stupid comparison

    —-

    Yea, basically. He did. Yep.

    And everyone knew it.

  1119. Plunketthead Says:

    Theres still 4 players missing from Dells world Famous Raider Fantasy Football League

    Who is missing?

  1120. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Yea, basically. He did. Yep.

    And everyone knew it.

    ***

    “thats why they play the games” – Hwnrdr

  1121. JR Says:

    Don’t try to make anybody feel guilty/bad about being a Raiders fan.

    You must be a real jerk to do that.

  1122. Plunketthead Says:

    Too bad the competition is so weak in pro basketball.
    I would like to see Lebron and the heat play a dam good team.

  1123. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Plunketthead Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 11:54 am
    Theres still 4 players missing from Dells world Famous Raider Fantasy Football League

    Who is missing?

    —-

    Me, due to not getting an invite.

    I probably wont because RRS is mad that I pointed out the bandwagon thing :(

  1124. hwnrdr Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 11:54 am
    Most of us here were born Raider fans it was breed into us and our parents were Raider fans so its a family thing as well above and beyond being just a fan of football its a life choice or a life style.

    One unique thing about Raider fans is we will see another Raider fan we don’t know stranger on the street and we will shout RAIDERS!!!!

    Its a beautiful part in my life that will never change.

    Agreed! Unfortunately I am first generation Raider Fan in my family! But my kids are following suit, making daddy proud! :)

  1125. Method To My Madness Says:

    1104.lefty12 Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 11:48 am
    B,I may get pissed,but I always appreciate the passion for the S&B.I know your heart is in the right place and there is nothing wrong with disagreeing.

    ***********

    Solid

  1126. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 11:56 am
    Yea, basically. He did. Yep.

    And everyone knew it.

    ***

    “thats why they play the games” – Hwnrdr

    —-

    LOL…Rrrriiiiiggghhtt…

    2 years, 2 Finals appearances, 1 title..

    They got Eddy Curry a freakin ring.

  1127. alf_capone Says:

    my dad made me a raiders fan and he became one when he was a kid watching the heidi game

  1128. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Is there a misunderstanding??

    ***

    I guess so, DAV.

    I’m not going to Heat games or buying Heat gear. I’m rooting for them to win though, because I like LeBron.

    does that make me a “Heat fan” ?

    I guess so, as long as he’s playing for them!

    he wins = they win. rooting for the player, not the team.

    If he got traded to the Nets tomorrow, I guess you could call me a “Nets fan”

  1129. Method To My Madness Says:

    B@uce<——–Papa Dixon was a first game in 1960 at Kezar and I was at last Raider game in Oakland…..its a family AFFAIR!

  1130. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 11:59 am
    Is there a misunderstanding??

    ***

    I guess so, DAV.

    I’m not going to Heat games or buying Heat gear. I’m rooting for them to win though, because I like LeBron.

    does that make me a “Heat fan” ?

    I guess so, as long as he’s playing for them!

    he wins = they win. rooting for the player, not the team.

    If he got traded to the Nets tomorrow, I guess you could call me a “Nets fan”

    —-

    Man. Just cant get with that.

    Would you follow your favorite Raider to another team?

  1131. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    I guess it would be better if you just say your a casual NBA fan?? And that you dont follow the sport closely??..

  1132. Silverandblack666 Says:

    I would say that the Raider fan base is the most loyal and passionate of any sports team in america.

    Sure we have a few dingle berries clinging to ass of our organization but that’s part of the way things are.

  1133. Plunketthead Says:

    DAV

    You did not play last year did you?

  1134. lefty12 Says:

    Yeh,Rock,if Branch signs with another team will you join their bandwagon?LOL

  1135. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Plunketthead Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
    DAV

    You did not play last year did you?

    —-

    No sir.

  1136. hwnrdr Says:

    Hey, Raider til I die! We all give each other crap over who our NBA, or even MLB team is! But the one thing we all have in common is we are all part of “ONE NATION”!
    To say something I couldn’t fathom was how the heck were there Raider fans who were also Giants fans or vice versa! First time I heard that, I had to scratch my head! Now its like, ahhh, whatevers….the one I don’t like is people who tell me that they were Raider fans until they moved to LA! Now they are Niner fans…I always tell them that they were never Raider fans to begin with!
    And with that I know that they are many who will disagree with me on this!

  1137. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    lefty12 Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
    Yeh,Rock,if Branch signs with another team will you join their bandwagon?LOL

    —-

    LOL..

    Wait a miniute….RRS….Did you follow Giordano here from New Orleans?!?!?!?!

  1138. hwnrdr Says:

    OUCH DAV! Now that was a shot…

  1139. Method To My Madness Says:

    1126.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 11:58 am
    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 11:56 am
    Yea, basically. He did. Yep.

    And everyone knew it.

    ***

    “thats why they play the games” – Hwnrdr

    —-

    LOL…Rrrriiiiiggghhtt…

    2 years, 2 Finals appearances, 1 title..

    They got Eddy Curry a freakin ring.

    *******

    Who’s Eddy Curry? lol

  1140. hwnrdr Says:

    LOL, and Juwan Howard!

  1141. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    The Fab 5 finally got one!! lol

  1142. Method To My Madness Says:

    yall lay off my dawg RRS…he is a Raider to the core at least just like my dude Hwnrdr and R8eray,,,them cats love the Lakers liek Jhill and Dakota…but they rolling with the silver and black

  1143. Method To My Madness Says:

    1140.hwnrdr Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
    LOL, and Juwan Howard!

    1141.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
    The Fab 5 finally got one!! lol

    **********

    Mthfka was in Hoop Dreams….cant believe that schit

  1144. Sullivan44 Says:

    Brien, as you grow more mature and wiser you’re going to learn not to categorize people so much.

  1145. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
    yall lay off my dawg RRS…he is a Raider to the core at least just like my dude Hwnrdr and R8eray,,,them cats love the Lakers liek Jhill and Dakota…but they rolling with the silver and black

    —-

    And I know you totaly agree with the bandwagon thing, thats why you havent spoke up on it. Out of not wanting to go against him.

    There’s blog factions. I guess im a loner. Cares. lol..

  1146. Silverandblack666 Says:

    I have to step in here and get RR back.

    The guy is as solid of a Raiders fan as they come.

    Lighten up on the dude he is real!

  1147. hwnrdr Says:

    Wasn’t he the last of teh Fab Five to enter and the last one standing? Or was it Jalen Rose?

  1148. Sullivan44 Says:

    1142. I mean, what is that? That sounds like a prison conversation about who’s claiming what gang. Just disturbing.

  1149. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    This blog is WWE..lol

    I’ll be Punk.

  1150. Sullivan44 Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 12:05 pm

    I would say that the Raider fan base is the most loyal and passionate of any sports team in america.

    ……….

    And it means nothing in the long run, other than that Raider fans are an easier consumer base to dupe.

  1151. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Are you duping them if regardless of Ws & Ls they still want to cheer and wear the gear of their favorite team?

    NOPE.

  1152. Method To My Madness Says:

    1145.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
    yall lay off my dawg RRS…he is a Raider to the core at least just like my dude Hwnrdr and R8eray,,,them cats love the Lakers liek Jhill and Dakota…but they rolling with the silver and black

    —-

    And I know you totaly agree with the bandwagon thing, thats why you havent spoke up on it. Out of not wanting to go against him.

    There’s blog factions. I guess im a loner. Cares. lol..

    **************

    RRS does it as an antagonizing thing I think on Laker fans….which by all means is cool with me

  1153. Sullivan44 Says:

    Yes, you are. Is that “gear” free?

  1154. Plunketthead Says:

    Thats cool DAV as long as you are down with a few things.

    Did they tell you that the league cracked Yahoos top 5% league toughness rankings last year? We dont mess around, no knuckleheads or quitters, especially quitters. You have to play till the last game and work that wire to improve.

    We could use another smack talker and we lost our punching bag the year before last.

    Dont be fooled by Dell. He is a swell guy but you dont want to cross his path when it comes to his FFL. I would rather fight a salt gath addicted bear then tell Dell theres something wrong.

    Good luck untill you are accepted, then you become the enemy

  1155. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    OAKLAND RAIDERS @RAIDERS 1d
    #RaiderNation, help us wish Raiders two-time Pro Bowl long snapper Jon Condo a very happy birthday!
    “““““““““““““““““““““““““““`
    Did BSJ send a card? Perhaps, flowers too?…..

  1156. Silverandblack666 Says:

    How funny the demented little troll is taking back handed shots at the B@uce……I have a feeling he will get his ass handed to him shortly……sits back, pops popcorn, waits for the troll to get spanked.

  1157. lefty12 Says:

    I like Rock as a Raider fan even though he has a problem with me.My last comment was a joke knowing how much he likes Branch as a player.LOL

  1158. Method To My Madness Says:

    1149.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
    This blog is WWE..lol

    I’ll be Punk.

    *********

    I’m Daniel Bryan then

    Am I the dopest poster? YES

    Are the Raiders the greatest thing since the invention of the wheel? YES

    YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES

  1159. Method To My Madness Says:

    1155.909RaiderLifer Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
    OAKLAND RAIDERS @RAIDERS 1d
    #RaiderNation, help us wish Raiders two-time Pro Bowl long snapper Jon Condo a very happy birthday!
    “““““““““““““““““““““““““““`
    Did BSJ send a card? Perhaps, flowers too?…..

    *********

    YES!

  1160. Method To My Madness Says:

    1144.Sullivan44 Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
    Brien, as you grow more mature and wiser you’re going to learn not to categorize people so much.

    *********

    Wiser and mature men have had sex….whats your excuse?

  1161. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Plunketthead Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
    Thats cool DAV as long as you are down with a few things.

    Did they tell you that the league cracked Yahoos top 5% league toughness rankings last year? We dont mess around, no knuckleheads or quitters, especially quitters. You have to play till the last game and work that wire to improve.

    We could use another smack talker and we lost our punching bag the year before last.

    Dont be fooled by Dell. He is a swell guy but you dont want to cross his path when it comes to his FFL. I would rather fight a salt gath addicted bear then tell Dell theres something wrong.

    Good luck untill you are accepted, then you become the enemy

    —-

    My family suffers during Fantasy Football season, dont worry about me. LOL.

    But seriously, none of what you said intimidates me. I know my FF.

  1162. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Who cares which NBA or NHL team you root for or which homosexual ice skater you want to win the gold medal.

    In here we are all Raider fans….except for that one little troll who tries desperately to get anyone to talk to him.

  1163. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
    1149.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
    This blog is WWE..lol

    I’ll be Punk.

    *********

    I’m Daniel Bryan then

    Am I the dopest poster? YES

    Are the Raiders the greatest thing since the invention of the wheel? YES

    YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES

    —-

    Well played.

  1164. J Hill Says:

    What’s happenin’ good peoples!

    Congrats to LeBron and the Heatles.

    Durant and dem OKC boys are a legit team that faced a starving LeBron at the wrong time.

    Plenty of comp in the NBA for the Heatles. Its going to be fun!

    DAMN I can’t wait to see the Raiders SMASH this season. LMFAO at the haters talking about 5 wins.

  1165. Method To My Madness Says:

    1148.Sullivan44 Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
    1142. I mean, what is that? That sounds like a prison conversation about who’s claiming what gang. Just disturbing.

    *******

    You not making sense again Skip Bayless…you arguing for the sake of arguing…very female like tendencies

    RRS is a Raider…while your team is the 49ers….btch

  1166. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “Wiser and mature men have had sex….whats your excuse?”

    Classic!

    and funny!

  1167. Method To My Madness Says:

    1164.J Hill Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
    What’s happenin’ good peoples!

    Congrats to LeBron and the Heatles.

    Durant and dem OKC boys are a legit team that faced a starving LeBron at the wrong time.

    Plenty of comp in the NBA for the Heatles. Its going to be fun!

    DAMN I can’t wait to see the Raiders SMASH this season. LMFAO at the haters talking about 5 wins.

    *********

    Jheezles…whats good my OG henny sippin playa? You still double bogey on the par 3 or what?

  1168. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “You not making sense again Skip Bayless…you arguing for the sake of arguing…very female like tendencies

    RRS is a Raider…while your team is the 49ers….btch”

    And another fine post by the B@uce!

    Cosigned.

  1169. RaiderRockstar Says:

    if Branch signs with another team will you join their bandwagon?LOL

    Wait a miniute….RRS….Did you follow Giordano here from New Orleans?!?!?!?!

    ***

    Alright, Alright

    everybody chime in here and tell us what year you became a Raider fan and why. and how old you were.

    DAV will decide if you are a bandwagon Raiders fan or not

    I’ll start. 1988 Raiders finished 7-9 under Mike Shanahan
    I was 5 years old. biggest influence was my brother [9 years older than me] loved the colors, nasty nature & they were my team in Tecmo Bowl

    who’s next?

  1170. Method To My Madness Says:

    1163.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
    1149.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
    This blog is WWE..lol

    I’ll be Punk.

    *********

    I’m Daniel Bryan then

    Am I the dopest poster? YES

    Are the Raiders the greatest thing since the invention of the wheel? YES

    YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES

    —-

    Well played.

    *********

    Back in ROH days Bryan Danielson ruled….I HAVE UNTIL 5!

  1171. Method To My Madness Says:

    be back in a minute

  1172. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    I would like to start a live auction league for fantasy football with a bunch of people on this blog. When I strike it rich I will fly you all out to my mancave. I think it would be pretty amusing to say the least. Sh1t talking, booze and I’ll cook up some good eats!

  1173. Plunketthead Says:

    But seriously, none of what you said intimidates me. I know my FF.
    **********************

    lol, I was just joking. Intimidating you was the furthest thought from my mind.
    You may take things to seriously for us.

  1174. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    W’s trying to move Dorrell Wright “really hard, to anyone”

  1175. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I like Rock as a Raider fan even though he has a problem with me

    Me, due to not getting an invite.

    I probably wont because RRS is mad that I pointed out the bandwagon thing

    ***

    @Lefty – I knew you were joking. I got no probs with you as long as we’re talking Raiders football. politics & religion = different story

    @DAV – I talked you up to Dell. I’m not going to talk you down to him now. He’s the commish and it’s his decision to make. I trust you won’t act like a tool during the FF season. today was a complete turnaround for you imo. Everybody is entitled to bad days though. we’re good. just think it’s funny you can sit here and question a Raider fan’s “fanhood” that lives in Missouri surrounded by KC fans and has endured 9 straight years of losing. #odd

  1176. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Plunketthead Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
    But seriously, none of what you said intimidates me. I know my FF.
    **********************

    lol, I was just joking. Intimidating you was the furthest thought from my mind.
    You may take things to seriously for us.

    —-

    I was saying it in the fat guy from Hangover way lol.. Zach Gal…..yep.

  1177. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
    I like Rock as a Raider fan even though he has a problem with me

    Me, due to not getting an invite.

    I probably wont because RRS is mad that I pointed out the bandwagon thing

    ***

    @Lefty – I knew you were joking. I got no probs with you as long as we’re talking Raiders football. politics & religion = different story

    @DAV – I talked you up to Dell. I’m not going to talk you down to him now. He’s the commish and it’s his decision to make. I trust you won’t act like a tool during the FF season. today was a complete turnaround for you imo. Everybody is entitled to bad days though. we’re good. just think it’s funny you can sit here and question a Raider fan’s “fanhood” that lives in Missouri surrounded by KC fans and has endured 9 straight years of losing. #odd

    —–

    Never questioned your Raider fanhood.

    Today is no different than any other day for me..

  1178. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “who’s next?”

    My parents were Raider fans. One day I meet the doctor who delivered me and he said when I was born my moms placenta was silver and black and shaped like a football he has never seen any thing like that since.

  1179. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Hawks pursuing Pau Gasol, Josh Smith would be involved.

  1180. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Raidernationdave Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 9:36 pm

    Then what does that make you, considering you came on up in here and started swinggin’ at me?

    Kell can I axe you a question, you Kooky Kid you?

    Have you ever had a man gently, slowly and tenderly kiss you behind the ears and around the back of your neck?

    784.KoolKell Says:
    June 26th, 2012 at 10:08 pm
    Have you DaveDumbass?

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    So Dave is MR/Sullivan/ad nauseum?

  1181. theghostronin79 Says:

    Alright, Alright

    everybody chime in here and tell us what year you became a Raider fan and why. and how old you were.

    DAV will decide if you are a bandwagon Raiders fan or not

    I’ll start. 1988 Raiders finished 7-9 under Mike Shanahan
    I was 5 years old. biggest influence was my brother [9 years older than me] loved the colors, nasty nature & they were my team in Tecmo Bowl

    who’s next?

    ==================

    Anyone from Cali? I lived at Travis AFB, Vacaville, then Santa Rosa 6 years. Always liked Radiers over 9ers.
    Didn’t really get hard core into football until I was in High School 96,97 time frame. Crossed over from casual fan to True Nation Brother about 2000. Saw brief glory in the beginning, and lots of heartache since. Many A Sunday spent at sports bar being the ONLY Raider fan in the joint and listening to everyone elses laughter when Raiders made bonehead play after bonehead play. Every F-ing Sunday I was there, getting snickers when I walked in with my Raider apparel. Now fans are coming outta the woodwork. I look at them and go, “Where the F were you?” I’d stay till the end, even when they were getting dominated. Payed my tab, and drug my feet out the door with my head down.

    I know that was long winded but, there it is.

  1182. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Never questioned your Raider fanhood

    ***

    ” Did you follow Giordano here from New Orleans?!?!?!?! ”

    no ??

  1183. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Dalembert & 14th pick top Bucks for 12th pick, Brockman & Leurer

  1184. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    to* the Bucks. Done deal.

  1185. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
    Never questioned your Raider fanhood

    ***

    ” Did you follow Giordano here from New Orleans?!?!?!?! ”

    no ??

    —-

    If you cant see the humor in that joke IDK what to tell you man..

  1186. Raidernationdave Says:

    Sasha Vujacic is one lucky mther fcker.

  1187. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Shaun Livingston also to Houston in that deal.

  1188. Method To My Madness Says:

    1179.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
    Hawks pursuing Pau Gasol, Josh Smith would be involved.

    *******

    Now thats a good trade for Lakers….athletic guy they need

  1189. hwnrdr Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
    “who’s next?”

    My parents were Raider fans. One day I meet the doctor who delivered me and he said when I was born my moms placenta was silver and black and shaped like a football he has never seen any thing like that since.

    Black was always my color (even though many argue that its not). 1974, watched football with my dad and the Raiders were on tv! I asked my dad what was this game about and he told me and told me to pick a team. I immediately told him that team in black! He looked at me and said, ummm…ok! LOL
    Since then, it was Maddens teams, and then I heard about Al! That is why I stayed a fan of The S&B till this day!

  1190. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
    1179.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
    Hawks pursuing Pau Gasol, Josh Smith would be involved.

    *******

    Now thats a good trade for Lakers….athletic guy they need

    —-

    Josh has the basketball IQ of a peanut, but yes, very athletic.

  1191. Sullivan44 Says:

    Brien, you responded the way I expected you would. Do you realize a 14 year old would say something like that? Almost everything you say in here, a 14 year old could say. Rarely do you show any signs of being an adult. If ever. Anyone of your comments can be attributed to a pre-teen.

  1192. R8ER MIKE Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 11:54 am
    Most of us here were born Raider fans it was breed into us and our parents were Raider fans so its a family thing as well above and beyond being just a fan of football its a life choice or a life style.

    One unique thing about Raider fans is we will see another Raider fan we don’t know stranger on the street and we will shout RAIDERS!!!!

    Its a beautiful part in my life that will never change.

    *********************i am a first generation Raider fan.
    family lived in western Maryland and most of them are Steeler fans.
    i was just a little kid at the time and couldnt figure out why they were
    Steeler fans when Oakland was the nearest town to us. like i said i was a little kid and
    had no idea the Raiders played in California !!! lol lol lol
    **

  1193. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Anyone from Cali? I lived at Travis AFB, Vacaville, then Santa Rosa 6 years

    ***

    79,

    I was actually born in Santa Rosa!

    lived in the 209 for 23 years, so I’m very familiar with Vacaville. dated this hot chick for 2 years whose step dad worked at Travis AFB. some sort of sergeant. total d1ckhead

  1194. hwnrdr Says:

    Good One Mike!

  1195. JR Says:

    Okay,

    Back to MOM’s basement.

    See ya Sean.

  1196. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    I lived in Fairfield while I was stationed at Travis..

  1197. SaintKaufman Says:

    1975, my big brother tells me The Oakland Raiders are the baddest team in football and all of the other teams are afraid to play them. He points out the pirate shield and tells me they’ll take my lunch money and laugh about it.

    That was that!

  1198. Sullivan44 Says:

    I’m a Raider fan because my father and grandfather were. But I’m not “loyal”. I’m only loyal to my immediate family. Everything else is conditional. And why shouldn’t it be that way? Why should I be loyal to a company in the sports entertainment industry, which is what the NFL is? What have Raiders management done for me? Heck they wouldn’t even recognize me if I saw them on the street. And If I tried to approach them, I’d be carried off head first by security. I’m supposed to be loyal to that? Sorry, I’m not retarded.

  1199. Plunketthead Says:

    England, I dont quite understand however one thing is for sure

    MR has more then a handful of troll names

  1200. hwnrdr Says:

    1200

  1201. theghostronin79 Says:

    79,

    I was actually born in Santa Rosa!

    lived in the 209 for 23 years, so I’m very familiar with Vacaville. dated this hot chick for 2 years whose step dad worked at Travis AFB. some sort of sergeant. total d1ckhead

    ===============

    LOL, right on man. I lived next to the old “El Rancho” hotel In S.R. that is now Target. First job was at Target. Graduated USMC Bootcamp and folks got me tickets to Oak / Den. Donks were undefeated, Raiders beat them that day, it was sweetness. Back in Oct 97

  1202. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    LAKE SHOW FANS STAND UP N REPRESENT

    Yo, time to rebuild the Purple & Gold into Champs, not Chumps (probably get a patent on that sweet saying for mo money)

    First we trade Gasol for an all star and a few draft picks. Then move Bynum and Blake for Howard and that chubby point guard.

    That dude could easily wax Cousin the Genital in a game of Around the World, word

    After that, maybe we trade Kobe to Atlanta (shout out to all my fine ladies in the clubs, whut) for Smith, Horford, Joe Johnson and #23.

    Then we get a case of Moet Chandon and hella high with some ladies with low self esteem

    PMPP IN FULL EFFECT

  1203. theghostronin79 Says:

    I lived in Fairfield while I was stationed at Travis..

    ========

    I attended good old “Scandia Elementary School”.

  1204. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    theghostronin79 Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
    I lived in Fairfield while I was stationed at Travis..

    ========

    I attended good old “Scandia Elementary School”.

    —-

    Nice..

  1205. Method To My Madness Says:

    1190.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
    1179.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
    Hawks pursuing Pau Gasol, Josh Smith would be involved.

    *******

    Now thats a good trade for Lakers….athletic guy they need

    —-

    Josh has the basketball IQ of a peanut, but yes, very athletic.

    *******

    Cant have it all bruh lol

  1206. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I lived in Fairfield while I was stationed at Travis..

    ***

    whew

    for a minute there I thought you were my ex-gf’s dad , DAV

    I was kinda wreckless 10 years ago. I was tempted to beat that guy to within an inch of his life!

    he lived in Woodbridge though …

  1207. Method To My Madness Says:

    1191.Sullivan44 Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
    Brien, you responded the way I expected you would. Do you realize a 14 year old would say something like that? Almost everything you say in here, a 14 year old could say. Rarely do you show any signs of being an adult. If ever. Anyone of your comments can be attributed to a pre-teen.

    ***********

    Yet picking an argument and inciting people on here is mature MR? Shut up you moron….I have killed you in here countless times….only person who has been more embarrassed than you on this blog has been Kell

    How about your fight with 666 you scheduled? That is sure so adult like lol

  1208. Method To My Madness Says:

    1198.Sullivan44 Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
    I’m a Raider fan because my father and grandfather were. But I’m not “loyal”. I’m only loyal to my immediate family. Everything else is conditional. And why shouldn’t it be that way? Why should I be loyal to a company in the sports entertainment industry, which is what the NFL is? What have Raiders management done for me? Heck they wouldn’t even recognize me if I saw them on the street. And If I tried to approach them, I’d be carried off head first by security. I’m supposed to be loyal to that? Sorry, I’m not retarded.

    **********

    All lies…his folks were 49er fans that is why is he one

  1209. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Josh Smith, uncanny athletic ability, jumps out of the gym… his go to move?…19 foot jumper that he shoots 20% on.. lol..

    I read a tweet that said almost all GMs the guy spoke with wouldnt even touch him.

    Personally I love his Defense..

  1210. Method To My Madness Says:

    That dude could easily wax Cousin the Genital in a game of Around the World, word

    ***********

    Jameer Nelson? LMAO…never

  1211. Method To My Madness Says:

    1209.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 1:03 pm
    Josh Smith, uncanny athletic ability, jumps out of the gym… his go to move?…19 foot jumper that he shoots 20% on.. lol..

    I read a tweet that said almost all GMs the guy spoke with wouldnt even touch him.

    Personally I love his Defense..

    *******

    Gotta be more athletic to deal with OKC and Clippers will get another wing player eventually

  1212. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 1:03 pm
    I lived in Fairfield while I was stationed at Travis..

    ***

    whew

    for a minute there I thought you were my ex-gf’s dad , DAV

    I was kinda wreckless 10 years ago. I was tempted to beat that guy to within an inch of his life!

    he lived in Woodbridge though …

    —-

    Unless your ex-gf was 1 years old, and her dad was 22, Im not a possibility lol

  1213. theghostronin79 Says:

    I live in Oregon now, which kinda sucks cause it’s crawling with Seattle fans. I love going to visit my Dad in Petaluma cause I fly into Oak-Town. Get off the plane, “Yeah Baby, I’m home.” See Silver and Black everywhere…. It warms my heart. Drive past the stadium on the way to his house. I need some Nation Brotha’s up here. I’m reppin’ in No man’s Land.

  1214. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    theghostronin79 Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 12:41 pm

    Anyone from Cali? I lived at Travis AFB, Vacaville, then Santa Rosa 6 years. Always liked Radiers over 9ers.
    Didn’t really get hard core into football until I was in High School 96,97 time frame. Crossed over from casual fan to True Nation Brother about 2000. Saw brief glory in the beginning, and lots of heartache since. Many A Sunday spent at sports bar being the ONLY Raider fan in the joint and listening to everyone elses laughter when Raiders made bonehead play after bonehead play. Every F-ing Sunday I was there, getting snickers when I walked in with my Raider apparel. Now fans are coming outta the woodwork. I look at them and go, “Where the F were you?” I’d stay till the end, even when they were getting dominated. Payed my tab, and drug my feet out the door with my head down.

    I know that was long winded but, there it is.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Interesting.

    I was at Travis for awhile when I came back and that was where I got to like the Raiders.
    We’ve got something in common brother Raider.

    I’ve got two questions:
    1. What did you do when they snickered because you were rooting for the Raiders?
    2. Why the fuk did you walk out with your head down?

  1215. lefty12 Says:

    I 1st saw the Raiders play in 1960.Our Boy Scout troop went to 2 games @ kezar.We went again the following year to Candlestick to see them.But it wasn’t until 1962 when they moved to Frank Youell field that I became a true Raider.A friend’s dad had season tickets and us kids got in for a buck and we’d sit in the endzone.Fun times and kids were allowed to be kids.I’ve watched this team go from being the worst team in the league to the best and back to the worst.Hopefully I’ll be able to see them become the best again.

  1216. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “Yet picking an argument and inciting people on here is mature MR? Shut up you moron….I have killed you in here countless times….only person who has been more embarrassed than you on this blog has been Kell

    How about your fight with 666 you scheduled? That is sure so adult like lol”

    Yes I think I know what you are saying……

  1217. theghostronin79 Says:

    Interesting.

    I was at Travis for awhile when I came back and that was where I got to like the Raiders.
    We’ve got something in common brother Raider.

    I’ve got two questions:
    1. What did you do when they snickered because you were rooting for the Raiders?
    2. Why the fuk did you walk out with your head down?

    ===========================

    I’d just nod my head and go “Yeah, I’m here ain’t I?”
    Exchanged words with plenty of folks. It’s like everyone else in there was a Hater. Well I guess they are. You’re part of the Nation, or a Hater. No grey area.

    The head down part was mainly for my boys. I was feeling their dissappointment, and bit of hopelessness. I wasn’t gonna turn my back on them though.

  1218. Method To My Madness Says:

    1215.lefty12 Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
    I 1st saw the Raiders play in 1960.Our Boy Scout troop went to 2 games @ kezar.We went again the following year to Candlestick to see them.But it wasn’t until 1962 when they moved to Frank Youell field that I became a true Raider.A friend’s dad had season tickets and us kids got in for a buck and we’d sit in the endzone.Fun times and kids were allowed to be kids.I’ve watched this team go from being the worst team in the league to the best and back to the worst.Hopefully I’ll be able to see them become the best again.

    ***********
    you seen it all…and thats why i respect ya

  1219. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    I’d just nod my head and go “Yeah, I’m here ain’t I?”
    Exchanged words with plenty of folks. It’s like everyone else in there was a Hater. Well I guess they are. You’re part of the Nation, or a Hater. No grey area.

    The head down part was mainly for my boys. I was feeling their dissappointment, and bit of hopelessness. I wasn’t gonna turn my back on them though.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Got it Theg.

  1220. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    Yo, Laker starting 5 will look like this, word

    PG: Mo Williams
    SG: Kobe
    SF: Josh Smith
    PF: Al Horford
    C: Dwight

    Yo, Mo could bust Cousin the Genital’s knees with his double dutch treat

    BRINGING BACK KING FLAVA

  1221. Silverandblack666 Says:

    This is MR when he comes into the blog.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNCl4C8woLg

    South Park reference:

  1222. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    lefty12 Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
    I 1st saw the Raiders play in 1960
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Man, even Al was young then.

    I’m going to go and watch Lefty’s, and Brien’s favorite baseball team beat the crap out of the L.A.

    GO GIANTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    BEAT LA! BEAT LA!

  1223. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    lefty12 Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 1:12 pm

    I 1st saw the Raiders play in 1960.Our Boy Scout troop went to 2 games @ kezar.We went again the following year to Candlestick to see them.But it wasn’t until 1962 when they moved to Frank Youell field that I became a true Raider.A friend’s dad had season tickets and us kids got in for a buck and we’d sit in the endzone.Fun times and kids were allowed to be kids.I’ve watched this team go from being the worst team in the league to the best and back to the worst.Hopefully I’ll be able to see them become the best again.

    ————

    HA HA LeftNut was a Girl Scout

    Lame but makes perfect sense

  1224. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Lakers interested in Kentucky’s Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, would be open to trading Pau for Top-5 pick and right package o’ players

  1225. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Gasol is not the only guy the Lakers are shopping, but it might not work. From ESPN.

    The Lakers might have an even tougher sell with Metta World Peace, who also has been shopped in order to gauge his trade value. While the Lakers would be looking for considerably less, such as a late first-round pick or perhaps some cap relief, World Peace’s contract obligations (two years, $15 million remaining on his deal) — combined with a 15 percent trade kicker — might prove too much for another team to bear

  1226. raidertbone Says:

    Lakers will re-tool and the Raiders will soon make it back to playoff land, baby!

  1227. lefty12 Says:

    Englander-that’s blasphemy!LOL

  1228. raidertbone Says:

    Meta World Peace is already starting to focus on his new career as a weather forecaster – lol!

  1229. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    RR, I just busted this dope Laker rap while I was pushing out my mid-afternoon duece

    It’s called “We Ain’t Foolin’, We is Retoolin’”

    Would definitely be rapped over pumping jazz bass, snare drum rolls and a monster bass solo that is almost off key (to keep the audience awake)

    Yo Kobe, you must be droolin’
    The Lakes ain’t foolin’, they just be retoolin’
    So get yo azz ready for the new Lake Show
    While I get a bj from this wasted Mexican ho

    FO SHIZZLE

  1230. raidertbone Says:

    Kobe and crew gonna leave Lebron
    Cryin’ just outside the john;
    Heat ain’t gonna win next year
    And Spoelstra will get it in the rear!

  1231. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    FO SHIZZLE
    raidertbone Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 1:48 pm

    Kobe and crew gonna leave Lebron
    Cryin’ just outside the john;
    Heat ain’t gonna win next year
    And Spoelstra will get it in the rear!

    ——————-

    Sweet flow, T Bone.
    That’s some hella tight blog rap

    Extra points for that hardcore diss on Spoelstra
    You KNOW he be feeling that burn, word

  1232. hwnrdr Says:

    LOL!

  1233. Method To My Madness Says:

    1220.The Beeech Dawg Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
    Yo, Laker starting 5 will look like this, word

    PG: Mo Williams
    SG: Kobe
    SF: Josh Smith
    PF: Al Horford
    C: Dwight

    Yo, Mo could bust Cousin the Genital’s knees with his double dutch treat

    BRINGING BACK KING FLAVA

    ***********

    Yawwwwwwwnnnnn please stop boring us

  1234. Method To My Madness Says:

    1227.lefty12 Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 1:39 pm
    Englander-that’s blasphemy!LOL

    ************

    Big time!

    Dodgers are the Giants master and A’s are their Daddy

  1235. Method To My Madness Says:

    1229.The Beeech Dawg Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 1:43 pm
    RR, I just busted this dope Laker rap while I was pushing out my mid-afternoon duece

    It’s called “We Ain’t Foolin’, We is Retoolin’”

    Would definitely be rapped over pumping jazz bass, snare drum rolls and a monster bass solo that is almost off key (to keep the audience awake)

    Yo Kobe, you must be droolin’
    The Lakes ain’t foolin’, they just be retoolin’
    So get yo azz ready for the new Lake Show
    While I get a bj from this wasted Mexican ho

    FO SHIZZLE

    *********

    BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

  1236. Method To My Madness Says:

    Big ups to G123…it looks like Santa clara and the 49ers bout to have some serious issues

  1237. Dakota Says:

    YOU PEOPLE!

  1238. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Trade Metta Won’t Play!

    That’s DMAC yo.

  1239. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    Genital, don’t be jealous of my dope blog raps just because you’re scared to lay down some weak flow

    But please try, me and my Blog Brahs could use a good laugh

  1240. Method To My Madness Says:

    1239.The Beeech Dawg Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
    Genital, don’t be jealous of my dope blog raps just because you’re scared to lay down some weak flow

    But please try, me and my Blog Brahs could use a good laugh

    ******************

    Get a real mic jcat…step up and be a real MC…blog rappers=fake….but doesnt surprise me

  1241. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Is you is or is you ain’t a Raider
    Dmacs legs as soft as mashed taters
    Al blew that pick, musta smoked a fatty
    Coulda set the Oline with Big Ryan Clady

    NO HITTIN THE ROCK WHILE ON DA CLOCK

  1242. Method To My Madness Says:

    Beecher you dont even know how to be a lyricist at all

  1243. Method To My Madness Says:

    1241.Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
    Is you is or is you ain’t a Raider
    Dmacs legs as soft as mashed taters
    Al blew that pick, musta smoked a fatty
    Coulda set the Oline with Big Ryan Clady

    NO HITTIN THE ROCK WHILE ON DA CLOCK

    *******

    Stick to singing SOS Band’s greatest hits “quaf” man

  1244. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 2:26 pm

    Is you is or is you ain’t a Raider
    Dmacs legs as soft as mashed taters
    Al blew that pick, musta smoked a fatty
    Coulda set the Oline with Big Ryan Clady

    NO HITTIN THE ROCK WHILE ON DA CLOCK

    ————–

    Yo PMPP in the HIZZY

    Bo knocking that fly rap outta the park

  1245. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    Interesting how the PMPP is laying down dope blog raps, and only Brian the Genital is whining and crying

    Guess its pretty clear who has no lyrical skill*

    *that would be Brian the Genital

  1246. Method To My Madness Says:

    1245.The Beeech Dawg Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
    Interesting how the PMPP is laying down dope blog raps, and only Brian the Genital is whining and crying

    Guess its pretty clear who has no lyrical skill*

    *that would be Brian the Genital

    *************

    please your lil stubby ass couldnt wrap a xmas gift let alone rap for real…stop fakin and frontin Beecher…..put up 16 bars of heat and someone may take you serious

  1247. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    Yo, this fresh rap props up the greatness of the Lake Show AND my weiner while magically dissing Brian the Genital, the wannabee

    Yo, this flow will feel like 2lbs of hot lasagna in your gym shorts

    Laker flow, getting hella tight, makin’ me glad
    Ha, take a look a Brian the Genital’s small nads
    Grillin’ thick bacon, stackin’ mad cheese
    Now lick my weiner, ho, get down on them knees

    DOWNTOWN BEEECH DIGGITY BROWN

  1248. Method To My Madness Says:

    1247.The Beeech Dawg Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
    Yo, this fresh rap props up the greatness of the Lake Show AND my weiner while magically dissing Brian the Genital, the wannabee

    Yo, this flow will feel like 2lbs of hot lasagna in your gym shorts

    Laker flow, getting hella tight, makin’ me glad
    Ha, take a look a Brian the Genital’s small nads
    Grillin’ thick bacon, stackin’ mad cheese
    Now lick my weiner, ho, get down on them knees

    DOWNTOWN BEEECH DIGGITY BROWN

    ******************

    the homosexual stench on this post is so bad even Liberace would be appauled

  1249. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    This is a classic Genital beatdown

    I’ve been blog rapping circles around the poor nerd, he’s been crying and whining, and can’t even lay down one line

    Genital, I bet your grandpappy KrappyRat could out rap you in his Underoos

  1250. Method To My Madness Says:

    1249.The Beeech Dawg Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
    This is a classic Genital beatdown

    I’ve been blog rapping circles around the poor nerd, he’s been crying and whining, and can’t even lay down one line

    Genital, I bet your grandpappy KrappyRat could out rap you in his Underoos

    *******

    You need a mic or people need to hear your voice when battle rapping…that way they can hear your delivery…until then you havent dropped one line Beecher

  1251. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    Yo, this Victory Blog Rap declares my ongoing supremacy over Brian the Genital while also describing how much hot stripper action my weiner gets

    I know, RUN DMC is hella proud

    Yo, 5 years running of owning the blog
    That’s what you get with the Beeech Diggity Dawg
    The strippers gettin’ loose on my 10 inch dong
    Brian the Genital gettin’ rolled in this song
    (like a marijuana joint)

    PMPP IN FULL EFFECT, WIZZLE

  1252. alf_capone Says:

    blog rapping? really? well that’s just ….well….gay

  1253. MistaBrown Says:

    Obviously.
    _____

    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 2:50 pm

    1249.The Beeech Dawg Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 2:48 pm

    This is a classic Genital beatdown

    I’ve been blog rapping circles around the poor nerd, he’s been crying and whining, and can’t even lay down one line

    Genital, I bet your grandpappy KrappyRat could out rap you in his Underoos

    *******

    You need a mic or people need to hear your voice when battle rapping…that way they can hear your delivery…until then you havent dropped one line Beecher

  1254. theghostronin79 Says:

    It’s only been a few days since mini camp, and we’re already outta stuff to talk about.

  1255. TxRaider210 Says:

    Come on Reggie, sign Branch to a deal and Ryan Grant!

  1256. theghostronin79 Says:

    OH CRAPPER…..It’s Tx.

  1257. TxRaider210 Says:

    Whut up Nation? Hope wherever you’re at it’s not 105 outside.

  1258. theghostronin79 Says:

    Haven’t seen you all day

  1259. KoolKell Says:

    My first game was 1964 at Frank Youell Field. Al Davis was Head Coach. Clem Daniels, Cotton Davidson, Bo Robertson, Art Powell! Fred the Hammer Williamson

  1260. alf_capone Says:

    @TxRaider210

    you prefer grant over benson. i could go either way i think. as long as we pick up one or the other ill be happy

  1261. TxRaider210 Says:

    Theghostronin79 Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
    OH CRAPPER…..It’s Tx.
    ————–
    Whut up bro, no Raider news today eh?

  1262. DJ Johnny Says:

    1259.KoolKell Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
    My first game was 1964 at Frank Youell Field. Al Davis was Head Coach. Clem Daniels, Cotton Davidson, Bo Robertson, Art Powell! Fred the Hammer Williamson

    Fred Williamson= Great actor.

  1263. theghostronin79 Says:

    No news….Little Wide Receiver talk, and a whole lotta Crank Waiving

  1264. TxRaider210 Says:

    Theghostronin79 Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
    Haven’t seen you all day
    ———————
    I busted my azz at work today, for a change.lol

  1265. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 3:12 pm

    My first game was 1964 at Frank Youell Field. Al Davis was Head Coach. Clem Daniels, Cotton Davidson, Bo Robertson, Art Powell! Fred the Hammer Williamson

    ————–

    And now you’re an unemployed, overweight, whiny blog Troll. Congrats

  1266. TxRaider210 Says:

    Alf
    I’d take Grant because RM knows him and Benson’s attitude.imo

  1267. MistaBrown Says:

    KK Munster, thanks for taking a walk down memory lane but nobody asked you a damn thing.

    Sit down & STFU.
    _____

    KoolKell Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 3:12 pm

    My first game was 1964 at Frank Youell Field. Al Davis was Head Coach. Clem Daniels, Cotton Davidson, Bo Robertson, Art Powell! Fred the Hammer Williamson

  1268. Plunketthead Says:

    http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2012/6/26/3117953/oakland-raiders-carson-palmer-getting-no-love-in-2012-nfl-quarterback-rankings

    With the offseason in full swing, the sports media outlets are coming out with their player rankings. The general consensus among the rankings is that Carson Palmer is a bottom tier quarterback. I have yet to see a single list that has him cracking the top 20. This seems a bit low for a two time Pro Bowler and franchise quarterback so I thought I would poke around and see why that might be.

    Not all of these lists have the same quarterbacks ahead or behind Palmer on their rankings. And yet they all have him hovering around the 20-25 range. Is the man who was part of what Hue Jackson called “the greatest trade in football” really deserving of such little respect and low expectations?

    Let’s break this down…

    The top few quarterbacks are simple. They are made up of some obvious top tier quarterbacks who have won one or more Super Bowls. However you choose to order them, they are as follows

    The top few quarterbacks are simple. They are made up of some obvious top tier quarterbacks who have won one or more Super Bowls. However you choose to order them, they are as follows

    1. Aaron Rodgers
    2. Eli Manning
    3. Tom Brady
    4. Peyton Manning
    5. Drew Brees
    6. Ben Roethlisberger

    This is where the “everyone else” part of the list begins. And it is also where it is far less certain as to who deserves to be considered a upper tier quarterback.

    The lists across the board seem to blur the line between those ranked based upon past achievements or potential. The next group of quarterbacks who fall in this mid-range category go something like this:

    7. Philip Rivers, San Diego Chargers
    8. Matt Ryan, Atlanta Falcons
    9. Michael Vick, Philadelphia Eagles
    10. Matthew Stafford, Detroit Lions
    11. Cam Newton, Carolina Panthers
    12. Joe Flacco, Baltimore Ravens
    13. Tony Romo, Dallas Cowboys
    14. Jay Cutler, Chicago Bears
    15. Matt Schaub, Houston Texans

    Whatever order this group is listed, they are all here in this range– and Carson Palmer is never among them or immediately following.

    I saw lists where Palmer was ranked below Andrew Luck, who is a rookie on a rebuilding Colts team. Even Peyton Manning was a disaster in that situation in Indy when he was a rookie. I have seen lists in which Palmer is below the likes of Alex Smith, Mark Sanchez, Josh Freeman, and Ryan Fitzpatrick– all of whom have career quarterback ratings in the 70’s (Palmer’s career QB rating is 86.3).

    Typically, he lands as low as possible among those who are actually considered sure starters next season. He barely tops guys like Matt Flynn, Robert Griffin III, and Jake Locker– none of whom have proven anything on the NFL level and may not even start this season.

    I would be the first to tell you that rankings don’t mean anything and are nothing to get worked up about. Stats are also not the be all end all. Even wins and losses are not always a good judge of a quarterback’s greatness.

    There are many situations in which a team is built to win through its defense. The Ravens and 49ers were two such teams last season. Although I do give Joe Flacco and Alex Smith a lot of credit for not making any big mistakes, playing within the system, and allowing their defense to do their job. But playing not to lose does not a great quarterback make.

    I won’t say Flacco and Smith don’t deserve to be among the top 15 quarterbacks in the NFL because they were able to execute their respective offenses to conference championships and nearly going to the Super Bowl. They deserve to be recognized for that. Although, not near as much as the defense.

    Defense and the wins that come with it have never been a luxury of which Palmer was afforded. His career record is 50-56, due in large part to the fact that during his eight seasons in the NFL, his team only once had a defense ranked among the top 16 (2009, went 10-6). Outside of that one season, his team has had an average defensive rank of 23, which has led to many uphill battles and a lot of desperation moments for Palmer over the years. Interceptions are a byproduct of that desperation.

    Just so you know, all the lists also have Palmer’s replacement in Cincinnati, Andy Dalton, ranked ahead of him. Dalton enjoyed a resurgent Bengals defense last season which ranked ninth in the league. Dalton led them to a 9-7 record with a not-so-great QB rating of 80.4.

    To best judge Palmer based upon statistics, you must stick to the five seasons in which he played in all 16 games. He has been in the NFL for eight seasons but three of them were partial seasons– one was his rookie season and another was last season.

    In those five seasons he averaged 3813 passing yards, 27 touchdowns, and 16 interceptions. He also had a completion percentage of 63 and an 89.5 quarterback rating. His win/loss record improves here too to an even 40-40 record over that time.

    Those numbers are pretty impressive. The 89.5 quarterback rating and 63% passing puts him squarely among the 10-15 ranking range. His 27 passing touchdown average is a number that Jay Cutler, Michael Vick, Joe Flacco, Mark Sanchez, and Josh Freeman have never surpassed. And of this group, only Jay Cutler has surpassed Palmer’s 3813 average– once.

    So, yeah, the analysts as a whole may just be underestimating the level of quarterback Carson Palmer is and will be. At this point, he should be considered a second tier, above average quarterback, but instead he is currently rated just slightly above terrible.

    I don’t think there is any way Palmer plays down to the level of those who would judge him from an outsider’s perspective. He has a renewed passion for football in an offense that will not be relying heavily on this arm as well as an improved defense.

    With the new offense, his passing numbers won’t be as gaudy because the team will focus on the run. This will have his interceptions down and his completion percentage go up.

    An improved defense, solid run game, and more efficient quarterback play is what generates wins. So while rankings in June are just about meaningless, the ones in January will mean a lot more. That is where I expect to see Palmer right around the 10-15 range.

  1269. theghostronin79 Says:

    Theghostronin79 Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
    Haven’t seen you all day
    ———————
    I busted my azz at work today, for a change.lol

    ==========
    Tha’ts cool man
    It’s been opposite for me. Slow day……Blog has been Bunk too.

  1270. TxRaider210 Says:

    Theghostronin79 Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
    No news….Little Wide Receiver talk, and a whole lotta Crank Waiving
    —————–
    Yeah I wouldn’t mind Plax trying out for a shot, but I think maybe they wait til roster cuts to move..

  1271. alf_capone Says:

    good points Tx

  1272. theghostronin79 Says:

    Yeah, I suppose it wouldn’t hurt to have Burress. But I think our guys got it locked down pretty good right now…..Actually

  1273. TxRaider210 Says:

    Theghostronin79 Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
    Theghostronin79 Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
    Haven’t seen you all day
    ———————
    I busted my azz at work today, for a change.lol

    ==========
    Tha’ts cool man
    It’s been opposite for me. Slow day……Blog has been Bunk too.
    ——————————
    Yeah my job is weird man, logistics crap can move in in tidal waves, no work or lots of it.lol

  1274. theghostronin79 Says:

    I dunno. I guess I’m a fan of strong youth. I’m always a little scared of big name FA’s. Member what happened with Haynesworth?

  1275. Plunketthead Says:

    Another lead pipe Plunkdiction
    Palmer will make the pro bowl
    Palmer & Seymour = Oaklands dynamic duo

    You know you wish you were a Palmerhead

    Best year ever!!

  1276. TxRaider210 Says:

    Theghostronin79 Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 3:25 pm
    I dunno. I guess I’m a fan of strong youth. I’m always a little scared of big name FA’s. Member what happened with Haynesworth?
    ———————-
    Yeah I know right, the young guys are hungrier and want to make a mark. I think Grant would be great if RM gets him cheap.

  1277. theghostronin79 Says:

    Another lead pipe Plunkdiction
    Palmer will make the pro bowl
    Palmer & Seymour = Oaklands dynamic duo

    You know you wish you were a Palmerhead

    Best year ever!!

    ==========

    It COULD happen. Hope it does.

  1278. TxRaider210 Says:

    @1268 Good read Plunk

  1279. TxRaider210 Says:

    I just am not satisfied thinking Palmer has played his best ball. This year could be his prime time with the solid line they have.

  1280. theghostronin79 Says:

    Theghostronin79 Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 3:25 pm
    I dunno. I guess I’m a fan of strong youth. I’m always a little scared of big name FA’s. Member what happened with Haynesworth?
    ———————-
    Yeah I know right, the young guys are hungrier and want to make a mark. I think Grant would be great if RM gets him cheap.

    ==========

    Could be REAL nice. He’s solid. Rather have him than Benson anyway.

    DAYUM….This page takin’ 10 years to load now.

  1281. TxRaider210 Says:

    Either my internet sucks or it cause we’re on post 1279

  1282. TxRaider210 Says:

    Theghostronin79 Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
    Theghostronin79 Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 3:25 pm
    I dunno. I guess I’m a fan of strong youth. I’m always a little scared of big name FA’s. Member what happened with Haynesworth?
    ———————-
    Yeah I know right, the young guys are hungrier and want to make a mark. I think Grant would be great if RM gets him cheap.

    ==========

    Could be REAL nice. He’s solid. Rather have him than Benson anyway.

    DAYUM….This page takin’ 10 years to load now.
    —————
    Grant, from what I’ve seen runs hard, could be a nice duo with DMac and him..

  1283. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “Another lead pipe Plunkdiction
    Palmer will make the pro bowl
    Palmer & Seymour = Oaklands dynamic duo

    You know you wish you were a Palmerhead

    Best year ever!!”

    I like it!

  1284. TxRaider210 Says:

    Maybe Grant has an underlying health issue that the teams know of, but haven’t released..idk

  1285. Plunketthead Says:

    Anthony Davis and Co trademarked “the brow”

  1286. Method To My Madness Says:

    1267.MistaBrown Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
    KK Munster, thanks for taking a walk down memory lane but nobody asked you a damn thing.

    Sit down & STFU.
    _____

    KoolKell Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 3:12 pm

    My first game was 1964 at Frank Youell Field. Al Davis was Head Coach. Clem Daniels, Cotton Davidson, Bo Robertson, Art Powell! Fred the Hammer Williamson

    ************

    YES!

  1287. Method To My Madness Says:

    Kell no one gives a damn about when you came to a game….we all know youre a bitter soul and we all despise you….now go and die you POS

  1288. Method To My Madness Says:

    1285.Plunketthead Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
    Anthony Davis and Co trademarked “the brow”

    *********

    Not good idea…sick

  1289. Plunketthead Says:

    I agree, B.
    “uber brow” or “the bat” or my favorite “the handlebrow” would be a better idea

  1290. Plunketthead Says:

    Hey dude, how can I grow a handlebrow like that?
    Do chicks dig it? Do you wax it or just feed it rogaine?

  1291. TxRaider210 Says:

    Plunk
    You must wax the handlebrow, next apply Tres Flores, guaranteed to hold strong.

  1292. Method To My Madness Says:

    plunkett…i say the idea of any of it is bad…that looks disgusting…he will get clowned so bad by it by nba people eventually he gonna cut it

  1293. KoolKell Says:

    It does make you wonder why Palmer is ranked so low, in every list Ive seen this year.

  1294. Plunketthead Says:

    I hear you B.
    Come to think of it in the same piece Davis was asked who his favorite player to emulate was and he said Garnett because of his D and he is a great taunter (trash talker) so Davis knows what is coming.

  1295. TxRaider210 Says:

    Some may think Palmer’s better days are done, I think he will re-emerge for sure, nothin fancy but solid.

  1296. Plunketthead Says:

    Palmer & Raiders are hated because the hate for Al is strong. While he lived the forces aligned against him were restrained by Al’s strong pimp hand.

    Now the full force has been unleashed. It will take decades for the fools who hate Al to pass into history, their names never again to be mentioned unlike the great Al Davis

  1297. KoolKell Says:

    TxRaider210 Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 4:10 pm

    Some may think Palmer’s better days are done, I think he will re-emerge for sure, nothin fancy but solid.
    ———————————-
    Me too, I just wonder what all these NFL people are looking at.

  1298. KoolKell Says:

    Plunketthead Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 4:13 pm

    Palmer & Raiders are hated because the hate for Al is strong. While he lived the forces aligned against him were restrained by Al’s strong pimp hand.
    ———————————
    I don’t believe the NFL is still hating on Al Davis.

  1299. DutchRaider77 Says:

    John Clayton’s 2011 QB rankings

    33. Andy Dalton, Cincinnati Bengals

    Analysis: Carson Palmer gave his heart, soul and body to make the Bengals a winning franchise. After two playoff losses and years of enduring frustration, Palmer gave up. Now it’s Dalton’s turn to try to do the same with a smaller body and not as strong an arm.

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/preview11/story/_/id/6898795/from-tom-brady-andy-dalton-espn-john-clayton-ranks-nfl-starting-qbs

  1300. KoolKell Says:

    Maybe it has something to do with Palmer/Cincy situation, and his replacement leading them to a 9-7 record.

  1301. TxRaider210 Says:

    OMG Clayton is a tard!

  1302. backstageatapuppetshow Says:

    Palmer has the ability and capability to be a top QB in the NFL….

    The thing is….he hasn’t been allowed to run the show the way other QB’s have….

    He needs to realize that he is smarter than our coaching staff….simply because he is the player who gets to know all the unknown variables that exist just prior to the snap.

    Carson has the mental ability to be great…it just comes down to installing a system which will allow him to take advantage of it….

    The question is….do the Raider coaching realize this?

  1303. Method To My Madness Says:

    1293.KoolKell Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
    It does make you wonder why Palmer is ranked so low, in every list Ive seen this year.

    *************

    Um maybe quitting and never winning a playoff game while tossing more picks than TDs has alot to do with it

  1304. Method To My Madness Says:

    Palmer gave up
    ************

    And some wonder why people are doubting him?

  1305. Method To My Madness Says:

    Palmer has the ability and capability to be a top QB in the NFL….

    ********

    He is 33? Come on the top qb days sailed him long ago….solid would be cool tho

  1306. backstageatapuppetshow Says:

    Doesn’t matter what people think…only thing that matters is what Carson thinks….

  1307. backstageatapuppetshow Says:

    33 means he has the experience to lead this team…this organization….

    The team will go as far as Carson takes it….if ONE player is most important to this team….it is Carson Palmer….

  1308. TxRaider210 Says:

    Well after he playing for the Bungholes for years, maybe some players do give up, but I think they give up on the organization.imo

  1309. KoolKell Says:

    I think Palmer has the passing skills, the reading skills. Don’t know about the bootleg, rollout, mobility skills, which seem to be coming to this offense.

  1310. Method To My Madness Says:

    http://www.network54.com/Forum/90650/thread/1321048252/last-1325523051/Carson+Palmer+Sucks!!!!

    Look at how Bengals fans roast homeboy

  1311. Method To My Madness Says:

    1306.backstageatapuppetshow Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
    Doesn’t matter what people think…only thing that matters is what Carson thinks….

    *******

    Huh? lol

  1312. backstageatapuppetshow Says:

    Koolkell….great post…I agree 100%

  1313. Method To My Madness Says:

    1309.KoolKell Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
    I think Palmer has the passing skills, the reading skills. Don’t know about the bootleg, rollout, mobility skills, which seem to be coming to this offense.

    ***********

    With no winning skills so far…he needs to go above and beyond to change that

  1314. backstageatapuppetshow Says:

    I don’t know about this Offense for Carson either….

    With our personnel…I would use 3 and 4 WR sets all day…forcing teams to use Nickle and Dime personnel packages…spread teams out….allow McFadden to beat up defenses…

  1315. TxRaider210 Says:

    But he still throws for 26-13 right Method? I’ll take solid any day and a run game.imo

  1316. Method To My Madness Says:

    1307.backstageatapuppetshow Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
    33 means he has the experience to lead this team…this organization….

    The team will go as far as Carson takes it….if ONE player is most important to this team….it is Carson Palmer….

    ********

    Dmac and Shaughnessy injuries hurt us more than anything last year…I mean at least this is what I was told from a player

    DMAC is our best offensive weapon and Matt played cool at RDE and could hold the edge

    But Palmer’s play is crucial nonetheless..we just need him solid while those two we need pro bowl level of play

  1317. TxRaider210 Says:

    Backstageatapuppetshow Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
    I don’t know about this Offense for Carson either….

    With our personnel…I would use 3 and 4 WR sets all day…forcing teams to use Nickle and Dime personnel packages…spread teams out….allow McFadden to beat up defenses…
    ———————-
    Yeah he sure would beat up D’s on the outside, or pretty much anywhere you line him up.

  1318. Method To My Madness Says:

    1315.TxRaider210 Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
    But he still throws for 26-13 right Method? I’ll take solid any day and a run game.imo

    ********

    25-13….ill take solid for sure with dmac,jones goodson and reece doing his thang

  1319. TxRaider210 Says:

    1316 Agreed, main reason why Grant would work just in case.

  1320. Method To My Madness Says:

    1314.backstageatapuppetshow Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
    I don’t know about this Offense for Carson either….

    With our personnel…I would use 3 and 4 WR sets all day…forcing teams to use Nickle and Dime personnel packages…spread teams out….allow McFadden to beat up defenses…

    ********

    4 WR sets with KNapp? Doubt it…3wr i can see…well he gonna be forced to

  1321. TxRaider210 Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
    1315.TxRaider210 Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
    But he still throws for 26-13 right Method? I’ll take solid any day and a run game.imo

    ********

    25-13….ill take solid for sure with dmac,jones goodson and reece doing his thang
    ———————
    Yeah Reece needs more touches, dude can flat out play football.

  1322. Method To My Madness Says:

    the things i really wanna see is opening drives for TDs and coach making halftime adjustments and scoring on first possession of 2nd half witha TD…sick of the FGs…eventho I love my boy Jano…but TDs win these games

  1323. Method To My Madness Says:

    1321.TxRaider210 Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 4:44 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
    1315.TxRaider210 Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
    But he still throws for 26-13 right Method? I’ll take solid any day and a run game.imo

    ********

    25-13….ill take solid for sure with dmac,jones goodson and reece doing his thang
    ———————
    Yeah Reece needs more touches, dude can flat out play football.

    ********

    Utility player…will catch and run for us this year as well as be a decoy and scare the schit outta defenses

  1324. TxRaider210 Says:

    Yes TD’s win, bottom line.

  1325. KoolKell Says:

    Backstageatapuppetshow Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 4:39 pm

    I don’t know about this Offense for Carson either….

    With our personnel…I would use 3 and 4 WR sets all day…forcing teams to use Nickle and Dime personnel packages…spread teams out….allow McFadden to beat up defenses…
    —————————————-
    Yep, but Palmer says he loves the new system. I guess what else is he supposed to say.

  1326. Method To My Madness Says:

    I still need the D to cause fear in the QB….need 3 and outs more and difficulty for offenses to cross the 50….when the defense is playing ferocious the coliseum crowd is the most rowdy in the NFL

  1327. Method To My Madness Says:

    anyhow raider brothers…be cool…at ya later…time to check out the office

  1328. TxRaider210 Says:

    peace out mayne

  1329. backstageatapuppetshow Says:

    To win the Super Bowl in this league “WE” must be able to pass when they know we will pass….and stop the pass when we know they will pass….

    The running game is obsolete….it will win you games….won’t win us a trophy…

    This is why Carson is so valuable!

  1330. The Big Banana Says:

    Teams will have to respect Carson’s arm and DMAC’s legs. Biggest threat to our success is injuries.

  1331. KoolKell Says:

    2012 Oakland Raiders Schedule and Intangibles:

    Continuity is key in the NFL. Think about which teams have been most successful over the years. The Patriots, Steelers, Eagles, Giants, among others have consistently made the playoffs because they’ve kept the same coaching staffs for a long time. The Raiders, meanwhile, seem to switch coaches every single year. They’ve had Bill Callahan, Norv Turner, Art Shell, Lane Kiffin, Tom Cable, Hue Jackson and now Dennis Allen patrolling the sidelines since 2003. That’s ridiculous. It’s unclear why Jackson was let go, but the front office needs to learn to make up its mind when it comes to maintaining a coaching staff.

    Speaking of coaches, it seems like none of those men have been able to do anything about Oakland’s penalty problem. Calling it a “problem” is a bit of an understatement. The Raiders committed 283 infractions in 2011, which led the NFL by a wide margin. Consider how the other AFC West squads performed in comparison. The Chiefs had 218 penalties. The Broncos were guilty of 200, while the Chargers were whistled for only 183. Penalties cost the Raiders several wins last season. Allen must fix this issue. If he doesn’t, his team has no chance of making the playoffs.

    The Black Hole seems like an intimidating place to play, but the Raiders are a sub-.500 team (63-73) as hosts since 1995. They were 3-5 at home last year, with four of the defeats being by double digits.

    Sebastian Janikowski signed a 4-year, $16 million contract two offseasons ago and definitely lived up to it, hitting 31-of-35 attempts in 2011, including 7-of-10 from 50-plus.

    Though former teammate Terdell Sands punched him in the face, Shane Lechler is the best punter in the NFL. He averaged an unbelievable 50.8 yards per kick, which is even more impressive because it includes 27-of-78 punts inside the opponents’ 20.

    Jacoby Ford was banged up last year, so he didn’t contribute as much as the Raiders wanted him to on special teams. He did manage to return a kickoff for six though. Unfortunately, Oakland surrendered three special-teams scores.

    The Raiders have a chance to start 2-0. They host the Chargers on Monday Night Football and then travel to Miami six days later. It gets tough after that though. Four of the next five opponents are the Steelers (home), Broncos (road), Falcons (road) and Chiefs (road). Oakland could be out of it if it doesn’t take advantage of its winnable games.

  1332. Plunketthead Says:

    Palmer may not be perfect in all ways but when was the last time the Raiders had a QB who goes three hundred plus yards almost all the time and 400 now and then. He is capable of putting the team on his back and leading us to wins.

    Im a Palmerhead
    whats your excuse

  1333. KoolKell Says:

    2012 Oakland Raiders Analysis: The Raiders have lost too much personnel, both in the front office and on the field, to contend for the divisional crown in 2012. In fact, they could have one of the worst records in the league if Carson Palmer regresses and Darren McFadden spends most of the year on the sidelines.

    The future is much more important for the Raiders than the present. For Oakland to make the playoffs for the first time since 2002, it’ll have to rebuild wisely and maintain some continuity. Thus, unless he proves himself to be completely inept, Dennis Allen should be given a chance even if he has two consecutive bad seasons. The Raiders need stability more than anything.

  1334. The Big Banana Says:

    Glad the talking heads expect crap from this year’s Raiders.

  1335. DJ Johnny Says:

    It has occured to me that when u look at MLB’s who are really good-great you kind of know it right away.

    You can have effective MLB’s and ones who get better over time but it seems they all have a certain something that is evident by almost everybody early on.

    People saw it with Ray Lewis, Urlacher, and Patrick Willis right away…we don’t see it with Rolando McClain. He doesn’t have ….”IT”.

    Can he get better? Of course…but i think if we are gonna see greatness…we should have already seen a little evidence of it.

    Hopefully he can better…

    We can’t blame everything on Al Davis’s outdated schemes.

  1336. The Big Banana Says:

    McClain is too slow and gets negated too easy to have greatness in him. Best we can hope for us solid or above average, which is still possible.

  1337. TxRaider210 Says:

    KK
    I can agree with that

  1338. TxRaider210 Says:

    But any team is “iffy” if the QB and RB go down huh?

  1339. KoolKell Says:

    Somebody is seriously confused. Either it’s us The Raider Nation, or NFL media. Cause WalterFootball has us ranked #29 this year. (The mods here won’t let me post the link)

    I don’t see it, but it is worrying me.

  1340. DJ Johnny Says:

    1336.The Big Banana Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
    McClain is too slow and gets negated too easy to have greatness in him. Best we can hope for us solid or above average, which is still possible.

    …or maybe he’ll turn out to be one of the rare ones who all of a sudden the switch turns on…doubtful but like u said…above average-solid? I can see it.

    No matter how outdated Al’s schemes were they never negated an individuals ability to shine and make plays. In fact one could say the whole “man against man” foundation of defensive theory actually encouraged greatness to emerge.

    I’ve heard some use it as an excuse to defer player responsibility by saying “well how can u expect anyone to succeed under Al’s antiquated system”?

    One might respond to that by asking “So Ray Lewis and Urlacher would not have succeeded with Al’s defense”?

  1341. The Big Banana Says:

    How can we possibly be 29th after last year? We lost Routt (bum – wont miss the penalties and TDs), Wimbley, and Bush. Wimbley and a backup RB averaging less than 4 ypc that big a loss? Not buying it…

    Throw in the fact that Palmer and DMAC will play together, which we didn’t get to see last year. I call BS.

  1342. KoolKell Says:

    Oakland Raiders

    Power ranking: 26

    My range: 17-19

    Comment: The key in Oakland will be strong play by Carson Palmer and health on both sides of the ball.

    Espn.

  1343. DJ Johnny Says:

    1339.KoolKell Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
    Somebody is seriously confused. Either it’s us The Raider Nation, or NFL media. Cause WalterFootball has us ranked #29 this year. (The mods here won’t let me post the link)

    I don’t see it, but it is worrying me.

    …but read the reasons they are basing it on. I saw where they were saying it’s cuz we lost so many defensive guys and they joked about us changing coaches every year. Didn’t they say “Is Art Shell still the coach”? Huhhuhhuh…sooooo funny those guys.

    Their “assessment” is not based on any intensive analysis that I saw.

    I’m still waiting for some by the way by these national hacks.

  1344. The Big Banana Says:

    Agree DJ. If anything, his basic scheme exposed players lacking in talent. See MeAngelo Hall. Which also meant it often required A LOT of talent in order to succeed.

  1345. KoolKell Says:

    #20 Oakland Raiders

    Key Additions: Mike Brisiel, Shawntae Spencer, Ron Bartell, Matt Leinart

    Key Losses: Michael Bush, Kamerion Wimbley, Samson Satele, Rock Cartwright

    Oh, that AFC West, so hard to handicap. Neither of the four teams is a bottom-feeder, neither (seemingly) a Super Bowl threat.

    But as tight as that division should be, the Raiders seem to be the one with the least promising 2012. And not just because they are the only one employing a brand-new, first-time head coach.

    Carson Palmer struggled mightily down the stretch, Darren McFadden has been unable to stay healthy, and they lost any established backup running game plan when Michael Bush left town for Chicago. And even if he wasn’t a Pro Bowler, Samson Satele, who signed with the Colts, was a five-year starter on an offense that relied heavily on the run.

    The addition of Mike Brisiel and the collection of extremely fast, young wide receivers does suggest the Raiders have the ability to put up points. Protecting any lead they may gain, however, will be the greatest question mark.

    Kamerion Wimbley and Stanford Routt were quality starters who they cut, leaving even greater holes on a defense that was equally porous against both the run (27th in the NFL) and the pass (27th). Dennis Allen may try to install the same kind of scheme that was so successful last season in Denver, but other than Richard Seymour, he does not have the front four personnel or a Champ Bailey in the secondary.

    Bleacher Report, shhs

  1346. DJ Johnny Says:

    “Carson Palmer struggled mightily down the stretch”.

    He did? Down the stretch he was clutch in the hostile environs of Arrowhead with a long lazer pass to DHB in OT for a dramatic OT victory. Then…to cap off the season he throws for 417 yds. and a pair of TD’s against SD in a loss that was far from his fault. That’s “struggling mightily down the stretch”? Please.

    But if Palmer’s “struggles” are indeed one of the reasons the Raiders will be bad in 2012, why do they admittedly add:

    “Raiders have the ability to put up points”.?

    Ok Bleacher Report…which is it?

  1347. KoolKell Says:

    Well, when the Raider were good, they had HOF’s all over the field.

  1348. DJ Johnny Says:

    It’s no conspiracy for media outlets to pick on the the Raiders, but it’ kinda weird when all we’ve been hearing for yrs. is how ‘When Al dies the Raider will finally move forward’.

    Al is gone, and now a team that was already a defensive stop away from winning the division is left to the management of a new regime that is NOT Al Davis…and yet everyone says we are basically garbage and worse off than we we were with Al for the last two yrs.

    I’m not saying it is, but does this have anything to do with the person who takes over for Al?

    Apparently the whole world is not as enamored with Reggie McKenzie as Mark Davis and most of us are.

    Reggie is not taking over an expansion team that went 3-13 the past two yrs. He’s taking over a club that is actually in the upper half of the league in terms of regular season wins over that time period and is NOT old or on their last legs…THIS is a relatively young team.

    I’m starting to wonder whether something else is hidden a little bit under the surface in regard to the esteem of Reggie McKenzie around the league.

  1349. Plunketthead Says:

    Dont forget how terrible the pundits said we would be last year after losing Aso, Miller and Gallery

  1350. KoolKell Says:

    Reggie comes with the blessings of Ron Wolf and John Madden, beloved by the NFL…..losses of Whimbley, Routt, and no certain backups there. Mike Bush if Dmac goes down, and a rookie Head Coach?

    There also seems to be a lot of doubt in Palmer around the league……..

  1351. Gomer Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
    Somebody is seriously confused. Either it’s us The Raider Nation, or NFL media. Cause WalterFootball has us ranked #29 this year. (The mods here won’t let me post the link)

    I don’t see it, but it is worrying me.
    *********************************************************

    I wouldn’t worry about it. People were saying the Rays were gonna finish last the year they won the WS. The talk will be on the field between the lines. Fck walter foooootball.

  1352. Gomer Says:

    We’ve upgraded the coaching staff. That a big step from last year with Chuck B and the brutal D.

  1353. Gomer Says:

    DJ Johnny Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 6:41 pm
    It’s no conspiracy for media outlets to pick on the the Raiders, but it’ kinda weird when all we’ve been hearing for yrs. is how ‘When Al dies the Raider will finally move forward’.

    Al is gone, and now a team that was already a defensive stop away from winning the division is left to the management of a new regime that is NOT Al Davis…and yet everyone says we are basically garbage and worse off than we we were with Al for the last two yrs.

    I’m not saying it is, but does this have anything to do with the person who takes over for Al?

    Apparently the whole world is not as enamored with Reggie McKenzie as Mark Davis and most of us are.

    Reggie is not taking over an expansion team that went 3-13 the past two yrs. He’s taking over a club that is actually in the upper half of the league in terms of regular season wins over that time period and is NOT old or on their last legs…THIS is a relatively young team.

    I’m starting to wonder whether something else is hidden a little bit under the surface in regard to the esteem of Reggie McKenzie around the league.

    *****************************************************

    Thats a good post. I always belive the media needs to feel ‘important’ or ‘comical’, they are like the flip side of the coin of a politician. Fck them. I say the Raiders are goin to New Orleans this year and winning it all.

  1354. Gomer Says:

    DJ Johnny Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 6:22 pm
    “Carson Palmer struggled mightily down the stretch”.

    He did? Down the stretch he was clutch in the hostile environs of Arrowhead with a long lazer pass to DHB in OT for a dramatic OT victory. Then…to cap off the season he throws for 417 yds. and a pair of TD’s against SD in a loss that was far from his fault. That’s “struggling mightily down the stretch”? Please.

    But if Palmer’s “struggles” are indeed one of the reasons the Raiders will be bad in 2012, why do they admittedly add:

    “Raiders have the ability to put up points”.?

    Ok Bleacher Report…which is it?

    *******************************************

    Fck bleacher report. They belch to much.

  1355. The Big Banana Says:

    Neither of the 4 teams? Nice work, Bleacher report. Stopped reading right there.

  1356. Hardline Says:

    Remember one thing: the difference between good and great is the will to win. With Reggie his will to win is paramount to all else. In his later years AD had the will to win, but not the means: he operated in the throes of dementia and was a wasted shell of himself. Now we have a GM and HC who will do anything to win, and who have the means to do it.

    Remember a substantial part of the Raiders’ woes the past 12 yrs were caused by bad staff hirings, the subjects of which didn’t know how professional football was currently played, including AD. This caused a cascading effect making us the laughing stock of the league.

    That is gone now; ultimate victory is close. We’ll be back in the playoffs soon then into the Superbowl.

  1357. backstageatapuppetshow Says:

    A wasted shell of himself is a bit harsh.

    Ultimate victory? Let’s start by not leading the history of the NFL in penalties…

  1358. backstageatapuppetshow Says:

    And the difference between good and great is not the will to WIN…

    It is the WILL to prepare to win…that has to come first.

  1359. KoolKell Says:

    When was the last time the Raiders had a dominant MLB? Could it be the defensive scheme?

    I’ve read where Ray Lewis demands to be covered by a Nose Tackle, to keep O-lineman off of him.

    The Raider front 4 has always been all pass rush.

    Let’s see McClain play in this new defense.

  1360. DJ Johnny Says:

    Some might rightfully say “But Reggie was given Al’s team and it’ll take awhile to build it up. Give Reggie time to fix things”. Again, this IS NOT an expansion team. This was a team a stop away from the division…probably beating a beat up Pitt. team at home and playing a prime time 2nd rd. game at N.E…which we would’ve lot…maybe big but the point is this was/is a team on the rise imo….and basically young.

    To me, these analysts are not giving Reggie any respect. Reggie was the one who failed to re-sign those “quality starters” Routt and Wimbley. He could’ve got those done if he really wanted to, so when they blast the Raiders for losing those guys they’re blasting Reggie…HE was the one who didn’t re-sign them.

    I believe Reggie made the right moves NOT keeping them, i;m just saying…

    Yes. Reggie comes with the blessings of Ron Wolf and Madden…that means alot to ME and many others here but apparently doesn’t mean much to the others.

  1361. backstageatapuppetshow Says:

    Why the need to share the opinions (blessings) of others on the matter DJ Johnny….isn’t your view of the situation strong enough on its own?

    The future will hold the answer to your question.

    Here are some words I live by:

    “In any conversation, argument, or debate….the need to reference another viewpoint only serves to weaken your opinion”

  1362. DJ Johnny Says:

    Guys could just as easily say:

    With simply just below average defensive play the Raiders would have easily won the Afc West in 2011.

    Carson Palmer came on strong the final two games and will only get better with a full off season to work with a potentially potent offense. With a solid o-line and their best player Darren McFadden back from his foot injury, as well as a solid young core of receivers, the Raiders are poised a strong offensive force.

    Defensively, a porous defense will be improved with the addition of a defensive minded HC in Dennis Allen and less predictible schemes the defense would be hard pressed to do any worse than in 2011.

    Without the meddling of long time owner Al Davis in the day to day minutae of the team, the Raiders are poised to be a serious threat in the AFC.

    Joe Optimist (AP).

  1363. backstageatapuppetshow Says:

    Nice Post Johnny!

    ;)

  1364. backstageatapuppetshow Says:

    Our only weakness at this point IMO is at the corner positions.

    I’m not sold on anyone besides Bartell at this point….and this is a huge mistake IMO….

    With the QBs we have in our division and the increased number of times we will have nickle and dime DB’s on the field….looking at our roster….we are in trouble!

  1365. DJ Johnny Says:

    1361,

    Backstage, I don’t have a problem with the analysts and their predictions necessarily, it does bug me when these analysts are mailing it in when it comes to their breakdowns.

    Maybe it comes from being part of the media myself that it bugs me even more…the failure of these diks to any real analysis of some teams…in this case the Raiders.

    As a Raider fan of many yrs. i am very used to the criticism and unfair analysis…sometimes it’s warranted. The last 9 yrs. it cetainly has been.

    Maybe it’s the way that they present it..in their smarmy, “know it all but they really don’t” style.

    I’m still waiting for some REAL analysis.

    I realize I sound overly sensitive, but i’m cool with and used to the bashing…i would prefer it be based on some real work being done by these nerds.

  1366. backstageatapuppetshow Says:

    Fair enough….I get what you are saying…but if you allow it to bug you then part of you must agree to some extent with their projections.

    The media’s job is simply to create an EMOTIONAL response and little more….I wouldn’t let it bother you.

    I usually am more concerned with WHY they share their views on certain subjects then with what they are actually saying….

    They know that the Raider Nation is emotional and is in need of a winner…and are just playing with their emotions…

    The truth of the matter is, the media and the NFL knows this organization is a SLEEPING GIANT….and that when WE wake up….are going to wreck shop!

  1367. KoolKell Says:

    I think the NFL would love to see the Raiders return to the top tiers.

  1368. DJ Johnny Says:

    1364.backstageatapuppetshow Says:
    June 27th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
    Our only weakness at this point IMO is at the corner positions.

    I’m not sold on anyone besides Bartell at this point….and this is a huge mistake IMO….

    With the QBs we have in our division and the increased number of times we will have nickle and dime DB’s on the field….looking at our roster….we are in trouble!

    I know.

    This is one of those things where I hope Reggie knows what he’s doing.

    Reggie was in GB last yr. when his GB secondary gave up most yards in NFL HISTORY.

    That wouldn’t be his “strategy” would it? After all they finished 15-1 despite that fact.

    I think GB led league in forcing turnovers though…i’m not sure; i know they forced alot of them.

  1369. backstageatapuppetshow Says:

    GB’s defense has the luxury of having a great Offense on their team and was usually ahead in games creating huge opportunities for their defense….

    Reggie may not have been able to make too many moves for our secondary through free agency…but he did have an opportunity to get someone in the draft….and he did not.

    The kid I liked got picked by Carolina…and from what I’ve read…is tearing it up so far against Steve Smith….it’s only OTA’s, so that doesn’t mean too much..but at this point….I wish we had him….

  1370. DJ Johnny Says:

    Backstage,

    Yes. I’ll own up to it. I think it’s more me being worried there is the possibility it turns out as they say.

    I do not have the cocky confidence of my own analysis becuz I know it’s partly based on what I WANT to happen and the fact i’ve thought Raiders would do very well and did not.

    I never thought Al would let them be as bad as they were for as long as they were.

    I still maintain that most of these hacks have not put in the proper work. Lol.

  1371. backstageatapuppetshow Says:

    They haven’t put in work….and why should they? They are not held accountable to their opinions. They have a 50-50 chance of being right every time….

    The thing about AL is that his INTENTION was genuine…I could care little about his recent results….

    He cared about his team….his creation…he guarded it from the corporate thieves…

    I for one appreciate the effort…..because his INTENTION was there….just didn’t trust anyone but himself to make the decisions….I can relate with that!

  1372. backstageatapuppetshow Says:

    AL was the Howard Roark of our time….

    It was his team to do with as he pleased….

    If this organization was ran any other way….it wouldn’t be THE RAIDERS….the best DAM organization in Professional Sports…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zc7oZ9yWqO4

  1373. KoolKell Says:

    The thing about AL is that his INTENTION was genuine…I could care little about his recent results….
    ————————
    His intentions were to prove himself right. Results are everything in Sports.

  1374. backstageatapuppetshow Says:

    His intention was to WIN…the only way he knew how. The thing is, the game has changed and he didn’t….and thank God that he didn’t…

    Results are not everything in sports. They might be everything in business, but not sports.

    Have you participated in sports?

    Have you felt the pride that comes from being part of a team?

    What is important is the SPORT itself..and Mr. Davis protected it better than anyone…

  1375. DJ Johnny Says:

    I agree that Al’s intentions were genuine…no doubt about it. I also agree that Al was the one who created the brand, team…the whole Raider “thing” that I became such a rabid fan of.

    He made some bad decisions; especially those final years imo. I think he should’ve trusted a GM…hand picked by the Grand Master himself to run things on the day to day.

    IMO he did not change enough with the times…held stubbornly to outdated philosophies that what worked in the past would still work well in an evolving league.

    That being said, he might have been a weird uncle in the guest room to alot of people, but he was MY weird uncle and any reasonable person cannot disparage what he meant to the league or the accomplshments he had.

  1376. backstageatapuppetshow Says:

    Who intends to prove themselves wrong?

  1377. KoolKell Says:

    I care a lot more about winning on Sundays, than intentions. I’m sure Chuck Bresnahan had honorable intentions too.

  1378. backstageatapuppetshow Says:

    He made some bad decisions; especially those final years imo. I think he should’ve trusted a GM…hand picked by the Grand Master himself to run things on the day to day.

    Maybe he DID!

  1379. KoolKell Says:

    When you put your ego over winning, it’s a problem for everybody.

  1380. backstageatapuppetshow Says:

    Maybe…but don’t you think the two go hand in hand?

  1381. KoolKell Says:

    When one is not getting it done, over a long period of time, it takes someone to put his ego away, for the good of the whole.

  1382. raiderlization Says:

    haters will always hate we use to bust their teams up!Now winning is the only way to get the respect back!

  1383. backstageatapuppetshow Says:

    This is the whole altruistic argument in a nutshell, isn’t it?

    Spock always said, “the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the one, or the few”

    Guess what? I disagree.

    Without the one, the many can not exist.

    By Spock and Your logic….the many are all that matter…this is backwards…

  1384. backstageatapuppetshow Says:

    Koolkell….we agree on the Raiders….and for that I am thankful….

    I appreciate your passion where Mr. Davis is concerned….it is needed.

    I hope we get where we both desire to be…even if we disagree on how we get there!

  1385. KoolKell Says:

    The needs of the team outweigh the needs of one. Put it that way. No need to bring Mr Spock into it. lol.

  1386. backstageatapuppetshow Says:

    Spock is generally considered to be pretty smart..don’t you think? Even if he is a movie character.

    LOL.

    The needs of the team can only be met one player at a time.

    The team is not paid as a whole, but by singular interactions with ONE.

  1387. backstageatapuppetshow Says:

    I’m simply making a point.

    The EGO is something to be used…not to be used by…

    Look at me, I just called out Spock….I must be friggin nuts!

  1388. backstageatapuppetshow Says:

    Koolkell, you and I agree much more than we disagree….and have much in common….but we ALL like to disagree here on the BLOGs as a way of distinguishing ourselves and appeasing our EGOs…..mainly out of the mind and its need to interact in order to learn more about itself…

    We are ALL one…and in order to take care of the whole….or the TEAM as you put it….we must take care of the ONE…

    Good Talk’

  1389. KoolKell Says:

    I agree with much of what you said, about us needing to distinguish ourselves for ego reasons. Yeah good talk.

    Gnite Gents.

  1390. Mr Green Says:

    :mrgreen:

  1391. Mr Green Says:

    :mrgreen:

    Sent from my iPhone.
    All incoming and outgoing free of malicious content.

  1392. Hardline Says:

    I have seen it time and again; there are certain people within organizations whose character,
    perspicacity, and ambition – the will to win – binds the organization together, moves it forward to reach its ultimate goal. Without this individual, the organization is lost.

    One might say it’s the power of soul with which anything is possible. This was the power of AD, unquenchable and unstoppable, in his early and middle years.

    As an elderly man broken physically, and for the most, part mentally, the torch must be passed.

    Leaders are never made. Any “leader” I have ever met can do the job when others can’t. A leader sees things the others can’t. Mainly a leader possesses common sense, seeing things others can’t, and so he does those things others can’t do. The result of this is commonly known as “success.” This quality combined with the will to win at all costs produces championships.

    Because AD never passed the torch, and soon there were few Raider staff or players who knew how to play NFL calibre football, of course the Raiders fell to the lowest of the low.

    What I see in Reggie is overriding common sense, and the ability to see the obvious – what others can’t see.

    If he has the overarching drive and ambition, we will win.

  1393. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:

    June 27th, 2012 at 4:28 pm
    Palmer has the ability and capability to be a top QB in the NFL….

    ********

    He is 33? Come on the top qb days sailed him long ago….solid would be cool tho

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Bullsh£t!

    How is a quarterback over-the-hill because of age necessarily?
    Tom Brady is 37! He does fair to middling.
    Palmer is younger than Rich Gannon when he first came to the Raider.

    Palmer was put in a game after being here for all of three games by Hue Nails Jackson last year with the inevitable consequence of interceptions.

    On top of that he arrived directly from his couch and a bag of Doritos where he’d been retired and had no real familiarity with the playbook.

    You can’t tell how he’ll do this year because we’re re-building yet again with a new head coach and a new system that doesn’t really suit Palmer’s talents.

    Palmer is still the best quarterback we’ve had since Gannon.

    Take a look at that list of quarterbacks between Gannon and Palmer–

    Tuiasosopo/Collins/Brooks/Walter/McCown/Culpepper/Russe
    ll/Gradowski/Frye/Campbell/Boller

    –and you’ll appreciate Palmer a little more.

  1394. guest123 Says:

    Good morning Nation! Rise and shine

  1395. TxRaider210 Says:

    Good morning Nation! Dungver pledged a whopping 50K to help fight the fire..cheap bastards

  1396. hwnrdr Says:

    Good Morning Nation!
    I guess this will be another 1800+ post thread?

  1397. RaiderRockstar Says:

    DHB’s lawyer sees procedural problems with DUI arrest

    Posted by Mike Florio on June 28, 2012, 7:19 AM EDT

    The case against Raiders receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey continues to work its way through the California court system. And his lawyer thinks that there may be a way to avoid a conviction.

    Arrested for DUI on April 7, Heyward-Bey was arraigned on May 31. Now, a pre-trial conference will be conducted.

    The fourth-year receiver wasn’t required to attend the arraignment. He has been ordered by Judge Donna Little to appear in court on Thursday.

    According to the Bay City News Service, lawyer Ivan Golde believes that there could be procedural issues with the traffic stop and eventual arrest, which came after a pair of breath tests should DHB’s blood-alcohol content at 0.12 percent and 0.13 percent. (The legal limit is 0.08 percent.)

    “After investigating all the procedures and all the chain of events it appears not everything was done according to the rule of law, and there may be some questions that need to go before a jury,” Golde said.

    That’s a common approach in DUI cases. With a laundry list of technical requirements, lawyers for persons accused of drunk driving have plenty of potential questions to raise.

    It doesn’t mean the defendant wasn’t driving drunk. It means that the defendant may get away with doing so, thanks to mistakes made by the arresting officer.

  1398. hwnrdr Says:

    LOL, King Darrius! Procedural stops for someone that blew a .13? Wow!

  1399. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    WILL SPEND MORE MONEY IN LAWYER & COURT FEES..SHOULD JUST MAN UP,PAY THE FINES AND GET ON WITH IT.HOPE HE LEARNED SOMETHING.

  1400. RaiderRockstar Says:

    no new NBA news, since I clocked out yesterday … it appears

    :(

    I thought for sure the Heat were going to trade Curry, Pittman, Turiaf & Anthony to the Lakers for Andrew Bynum!!

  1401. hwnrdr Says:

    Well, today should be big news right? NBA Draft!

  1402. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Lakers get:

    Terrel Harris, James Jones, Juwan Howard & Udonis Haslem

    Heat get:

    Pau Gasol

    ***

    everybody cool with it?

  1403. Bob Marley Says:

    Congratultions to Mile Burris on turning 24 yesterday… I expect this guy to turn into a Teddy Bruschi type of all-around Linebacker.

  1404. RaiderRockstar Says:

    @Marley

    Burris = Bruschi ??

    hot dang!

    thats high praise. I worked with the mother of a chick that was Teddy Bruschi’s highschool sweetheart

  1405. RaiderRockstar Says:

    What is the Cedric Benson delay?
    June, 28, 2012
    By Bill Williamson | ESPN.com

    A lot of Oakland Raiders’ fans ask me what is going on with the team’s pursuit of free-agent running back Cedric Benson.

    BensonBuckle in, it could take some time. There are no indications his signing with any team is imminent. Benson has been available since free agency began in March, and there has been no market for him despite his experience and success.

    Last week, ESPN’s Adam Schefter reported the Raiders were among the teams that have been monitoring and showing the most interest in Benson.

    Oakland’s potential pursuit makes sense. Starter Darren McFadden has had durability issues and he’s coming off a season in which he missed the final nine games with a foot injury. Oakland’s current backup running backs Mike Goodson and Taiwan Jones are unproven.

    There is likely a place for Benson with the Raiders, but Oakland has salary cap and money issues and it has two draft picks to sign. So, Oakland may have it do some maneuvering to sign Benson, and that could take time.

    There is a risk involved. While the market has been slow for Benson, interest could pick up during training camp time. So, while the Raiders’ interest in Benson continues, there are no guarantees he’ll end up wearing silver and black.

  1406. theghostronin79 Says:

    Burris has a rare skill. His Senior highlights are 10 minutes long. He puts a target lock on the football pre-snap. Then he flies like a missle shedding blocks with relative ease. He seems to always take the right angles, and he’s got a motor for DAYYYYS. People wanna knock him for the conference he comes from, but remember, Urlacher came from New Mexico state, as well as Zack Thomas I beleive.

  1407. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Also, there is this old man at church that lost both his legs in the war. good friend of my wife’s grandparents. we’ve played cards together for years. He saw me wearing a Raiders shirt one day and asked if I was a fan. I said yes and his wife was p1ssed (hardcore KC fan, naturally). Anyways, he told me that he actually met Al Davis a long time ago. back when he was an asst coach at Adelphi !!

    said he was a confident (almost cocky) fiery guy with a lot of energy & passion. remembers the slick black hair & Brooklyn accent

    small world, eh?

  1408. guest123 Says:

    There is a risk involved. While the market has been slow for Benson, interest could pick up during training camp time. So, while the Raiders’ interest in Benson continues, there are no guarantees he’ll end up wearing silver and black.

    **********

    Thanks for the shot of kool aid Bro!

  1409. guest123 Says:

    Cool story. You wear your Raiders gear to Church? Hardcore man.

  1410. RaiderRockstar Says:

    no probs G123 and good morning!

  1411. theghostronin79 Says:

    Who’s gonna be our surprise roster cut?

    Slowlando?
    MM34? (wouldn’t be a surprise really)
    Spencer?
    DVD?

  1412. RaiderRockstar Says:

    You wear your Raiders gear to Church? Hardcore man

    ***

    @G123

    not on Sunday mornings!

    Sunday nights & Wednesday nights are pretty casual

    was wearing the Raiders gear at my wife’s grandparents house playing cards with the old man and his wife. We used to play Rook & Pinochle quite a bit before her grandpa passed away

  1413. KoolKell Says:

    0bama Care upheld by the Supreme Court!

  1414. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Who’s gonna be our surprise roster cut?

    Slowlando?
    MM34? (wouldn’t be a surprise really)
    Spencer?
    DVD?

    ***

    great question, 79!

    none of the above. I’ll get back to you on this

  1415. hwnrdr Says:

    Besides surprise roster cut, how about surprise roster fill?

  1416. guest123 Says:

    Won’t be cutting Slo, there’s too much money involved there. I think if it weren’t for the cap, he’d be gone though.

  1417. guest123 Says:

    I definitely see MM34 being cut, I could see Spencer cut, they won’t give up on DVD only because there’s only so many DB’s you can cut. I think Louis Murphy is cut too. Travis Ivey to the PS.

  1418. guest123 Says:

    Besides surprise roster cut, how about surprise roster fill?

    *****

    I’d love a surprise roster fill to be a capable veteran TE like Shiancoe or Scaife.

  1419. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I think the only “surprise” roster cuts will be rookies.

    undrafted guys who have been shining in OTA’s or late round draft picks by Reggie.

    Bergstrom, Burris & Criner are probably locks.

    I don’t think Crawford, Bilukidi & Stupar are assured of anything. gonna have to earn it

    Also, even though Streater has been a beast … we hear about these guys all the time that fail to make the 53 & land on the practice squad

  1420. guest123 Says:

    Another surprise cut is Goethal.

  1421. guest123 Says:

    Streater = lock, sorry RRS

    Steater is “beasting”

    Agreed that Crawford, Bilukidi and Stupar are going to have to earn it, but the incumbent crew is nothing special and they have the inside track of being “Reggie’s” picks. That counts for something.

    Besides, if you read Reggie’s transcript, he says as much about the new guys and rooks stepping up and into some slots this year.

    Personally, I think all the draft picks make it, and some mainstays like Goethal get cut.

  1422. guest123 Says:

    Can I suggest Curry as a surprise cut?

  1423. Dakota Says:

    lol, Ob@macare upheld….according to a recent AP poll, 79% of independants wanted the law struck down in whole or in part. This could be very bad news for the President.

  1424. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I personally hope that Reggie cares more about production on the football field than cutting draft picks because it might make him look bad. that was the old Al Davis way

    no more scholarships!

  1425. RaiderRockstar Says:

    14 Duke Calhoun
    89 Derek Carrier
    13 Brandon Carswell
    19 Thomas Mayo
    16 Eddie McGee
    87 Travionte Session

    ***

    stiff competition for Rod Streater to be #6 WR during training camp & preseason.

    Besides, who says we even keep a 6th wideout?

  1426. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Trade Dmac for John Roberts!

  1427. theghostronin79 Says:

    I was gonna add Goethel to the cut list, and maybe murphy, Bilukidi…

    I could see Ivey sticking as our 3-4 Nose. I got a wierd feeling about Streeter too; he could be the one that gives Murphy the bump.

  1428. RaiderRockstar Says:

    everybody seems to be penciling in Myers, Gordon & Ausberry as the 3 TE’s to make the 53 man roster.

    one of them could easily be a “surprise” cut if Kyle Efaw or Tory Humphrey step it up in training camp & preseason!

    Again, i’m not even convinced we’ll keep 3 TE’s

    utility player Reece can line up there if we ever need him to

  1429. Marks hair Says:

    I wouldnt be surprized by any cut to that sad defense..

  1430. guest123 Says:

    stiff competition for Rod Streater to be #6 WR during training camp & preseason.

    ***********

    First, who are your top 5? (and yes we most def need to keep 6 WRs)

    My WR crew:

    Bey
    Moore
    Ford
    Criner
    Streater
    McGee or Calhoun, (Murphy if he can return healthy to training camp and show up on ST’s)

  1431. theghostronin79 Says:

    Curry WOULD be a surprise. He’d have to be outshined by Burris, Wheeler, Stupar for that to happen I think.

  1432. guest123 Says:

    I don’t see Ivey sticking on the roster. He’s PS eligible right? He brings nothing that D. Bryant doesn’t offer, and to keep an extra DL, have to sacrifice another position.

  1433. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Christo Bilukidi has to beat out Ivey, Cumbie & Hamilton

    Jack Crawford has to beat out Brodine, Davis & Dorsey

  1434. guest123 Says:

    Curry WOULD be a surprise. He’d have to be outshined by Burris, Wheeler, Stupar for that to happen I think.

    *********

    Don’t forget about Kaelin Burnett. I think he’s got a real chance to prove himself in TC. It’ll be tough, but the incumbent LB crew is not that special to begin with. It’s not like this the Ravens defense.

  1435. Marks hair Says:

    I dont understand why ppl say reece cant block but he can play te..

  1436. guest123 Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 7:47 am
    Christo Bilukidi has to beat out Ivey, Cumbie & Hamilton

    Jack Crawford has to beat out Brodine, Davis & Dorsey

    *********
    Consider those two scenarios done and done.

  1437. theghostronin79 Says:

    everybody seems to be penciling in Myers, Gordon & Ausberry as the 3 TE’s to make the 53 man roster.

    =======

    Very good point. I wanted to name a TE for cutting but, couldn’t make my case. They’re ALL suspect at this point.

  1438. RaiderRockstar Says:

    First, who are your top 5? (and yes we most def need to keep 6 WRs)

    My WR crew:

    Bey
    Moore
    Ford
    Criner
    Streater
    McGee or Calhoun

    ***

    5 locks = King Darrius, DMo17, sleepy dwarf #12, Shiner & Gator arms

    if we keep a 6th, it’ll be a battle between the rest of those guys (comment 1425). Streater stole the show in OTA’s. Doesn’t mean he will do the same in camp & preseason

  1439. hwnrdr Says:

    Someone who is definitely WAY outta touch (to quote an old Hall & Oates song) tod me last week that The Raiders were looking at Peyton Manning! That guy actually had the nerve to ask “when?” after I laughed and told him that he was signed by Denver!

  1440. Marks hair Says:

    I think our d-line picks go strait to the ps.

  1441. guest123 Says:

    everybody seems to be penciling in Myers, Gordon & Ausberry as the 3 TE’s to make the 53 man roster.

    ************

    I think by process of elimination you have to pencil in those 3. But it’s not anything anyone feels good about. We all want Ausberry and his bulked up frame and top speed to grab the position, but he has to block better to keep the field. In this ball control WCO, blocking TE’s are more important than catching TEs. Preferably we have the package in Ausberry, but if doesn’t show it in camp, its back to Myers and hope for the best.

  1442. theghostronin79 Says:

    No matter what happens though, I DO beleive the scholorships ARE over. Whatever 53 men Reggie/DA choose, will be the best of the crop, and they’ll roll with what they got

  1443. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Christo Bilukidi has to beat out Ivey, Cumbie & Hamilton

    Jack Crawford has to beat out Brodine, Davis & Dorsey

    “Consider those two scenarios done and done.”

    ***

    @G123

    I haven’t seen ANY of these eight guys play football. Have you?

  1444. guest123 Says:

    Streater stole the show in OTA’s. Doesn’t mean he will do the same in camp & preseason

    ***********

    tough critic. not a believer. ok, fair nuff.

    Strater is gonna steal the show in the 3rd and 4th quarters of preseason games this August, you’ll see.

  1445. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    RR love the tb ? with gibril stevie said “ouch” lmao

  1446. guest123 Says:

    haven’t seen ANY of these eight guys play football. Have you?

    ***********

    Nope, but call it a hunch that Reggie is gonna protect his few draft picks from his first year on the job. All else being equal.

  1447. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    mornin nation !

  1448. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Streater is gonna steal the show in the 3rd and 4th quarters of preseason games this August, you’ll see

    ***

    @G123

    only if Pryor is his QB !!

  1449. theghostronin79 Says:

    We all want Ausberry and his bulked up frame and top speed to grab the position, but he has to block better to keep the field.
    ========

    Yes indeed. Get some Young Blood. I’d love nothing more than for Ausburry to become the Veldheer of TE’s for us, and lock it down for a decade.

  1450. guest123 Says:

    post 1442, yes agreed that scholarships are done.

  1451. Marks hair Says:

    Thats alot of dline… Those guys wont make it..

  1452. guest123 Says:

    only if Pryor is his QB !!

    ************

    lol

    I hope so…..hope so

    lol

  1453. guest123 Says:

    Marks hair Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 7:57 am
    Thats alot of dline… Those guys wont make it..

    *****

    We should carry 9 DL

  1454. theghostronin79 Says:

    We all want Ausberry and his bulked up frame and top speed to grab the position, but he has to block better to keep the field.
    ========

    Yes indeed. Get some Young Blood. I’d love nothing more than for Ausburry to become the Veldheer of TE’s for us, and lock it down for a decade.

    …..Well, there is ONE thing I’d love more. DMAC finish a season, get 1800+ yds, pro bowl…….Which one is more realistic?

  1455. RaiderRockstar Says:

    @skinnnylegs

    yeah, Corkran agreed that Tyvon Branch = Gibril Wilson

    Raider fans didn’t like that. truth hurts

    was pleased to see that he thinks Mitchell > Gibson

    MM34 needs an opportunity to showcase his skills in a legit defense. hopefully that knee is 100% by training camp

    7 starts from him isn’t enough for me to write off a guy heading into Year #4

  1456. guest123 Says:

    MM34 needs an opportunity to showcase his skills in a legit defense. hopefully that knee is 100% by training camp

    7 starts from him isn’t enough for me to write off a guy heading into Year #4

    *********

    really? Go back and look at the tape, he flat out sucks and there’s no place to hide him on the defense.

  1457. theghostronin79 Says:

    Nope, but call it a hunch that Reggie is gonna protect his few draft picks from his first year on the job. All else being equal.

    ===========

    I don’t know man. I want to agree with you but, I just can’t. I think Reggie cares more about the end result than he cares about how he looks to others. Dude doesn’t stress about much it sounds like. I doubt he’s worried about his image that much.

  1458. guest123 Says:

    Corkran agreed that Tyvon Branch = Gibril Wilson

    *********
    disagree with Corkran, and made me wonder if RaiderRockstar isn’t Cork himself moonlighting as a semi. Cork, you are blowing your cover!

  1459. Marks hair Says:

    If the aliens dont harvest us for our sweet tastey souls this dec, 2013 might be our yr..

  1460. theghostronin79 Says:

    LOL….I wondered if Corky was ever sleuthing around in here causing a ruckous. He’s probably Sully44 actually.

  1461. guest123 Says:

    If the aliens dont harvest us for our sweet tastey souls this dec, 2013 might be our yr..

    ********

    God I hope not, it would be just my luck. My last mortgage payment is due Jan 1, 2013. I was hoping to celebrate then and have a loan paper burn party.

  1462. guest123 Says:

    We got an overload at FS and not so much at SS. Who is going to be Branch’s backup?

    FS is Huff/Gio but at backup SS we got a battle with Taylor, Powell or Henry. Any way you look at it, MM34 has been consistently unhealthy and can’t show on the field. Time to move on bring in new blood.

  1463. MistaBrown Says:

    Now govt can force you to buy health insurance. Whats next? The Unites States is officially a socialist/marxist toilet.

    G’bye America

  1464. theghostronin79 Says:

    Did you read that crap about Clayton’s prediction of Raiders 5-11 record, AND that it was the favorate vote by folks as most likely to happen?

    That’s just “F”ing Stupid. REALLY?……… “F”ing ignorant.

  1465. guest123 Says:

    What’s wrong with obligating people to pay for their health insurance? The same people who are crying about are complaining about the “nanny state”. Well think about all the irresponsible people who go without it and can afford it, but choose to stretch their budget on crap they don’t need only to expect the US Gov’t to be their safety net. Well times have changed, the Gov’t is broke if you haven’t heard. Time for folks to pull their own weight.

  1466. KoolKell Says:

    MistaBrown Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 8:15 am

    Now govt can force you to buy health insurance. Whats next? The Unites States is officially a socialist/marxist toilet.

    G’bye America
    ——————————–
    Nonsense. But don’t let the door hit you in the arse on your way out.

  1467. Marks hair Says:

    Yeah, I think mm gets cut. Guys need to get healthy for camp.. AL is gonzo

  1468. guest123 Says:

    Did you read that crap about Clayton’s prediction of Raiders 5-11 record, AND that it was the favorate vote by folks as most likely to happen?

    That’s just “F”ing Stupid. REALLY?……… “F”ing ignorant.

    ********

    haters gotta hate. let them.

  1469. hwnrdr Says:

    MistaBrown Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 8:15 am
    Now govt can force you to buy health insurance. Whats next? The Unites States is officially a socialist/marxist toilet.

    G’bye America

    Yeah, what was it? 1% of your income in fines if you’re caught without insurance?

  1470. hwnrdr Says:

    guest123 Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 8:18 am
    What’s wrong with obligating people to pay for their health insurance? The same people who are crying about are complaining about the “nanny state”. Well think about all the irresponsible people who go without it and can afford it, but choose to stretch their budget on crap they don’t need only to expect the US Gov’t to be their safety net. Well times have changed, the Gov’t is broke if you haven’t heard. Time for folks to pull their own weight.

    Good Point!

  1471. Marks hair Says:

    1464. New O. New D. No defensive stars. And an oft injured mvp rb.. Alot of ppl are going to have us under 500.. Get used to it..

  1472. guest123 Says:

    Here’s some koolaid for Rockstar:

    Source: ESPN

    Gary Horton of Scouts Inc. listed Raiders WR Darrius Heyward-Bey as the #7 breakout player in the AFC: “Until last season, he looked like an NFL bust, with vertical speed as his only real attribute. However, he made an impressive turnaround with 64 catches for 975 yards and four TDs, and now he looks like a different player. While playing outside is still his strength, he showed a toughness that we had never seen before, he caught the ball in traffic and his consistency at holding on to the ball dramatically improved.”

  1473. RaiderRockstar Says:

    thanks, G123

    Gary Horton of Scouts Inc. obviously sees the greatness in King Darrius!

  1474. MistaBrown Says:

    Hwn, who cares about the fines. The question is what will the govt be dictating next?

    You obviously dont get it but maybe 5 years from now when its way too late you might.

  1475. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    Tyvon = Gibril? hmmm, never though of it like that, but why not, Tyvon has done very little to be compared with the likes of Palomalu, maybe he is just another Gibril.

  1476. RaiderRockstar Says:

    @ Randy Savage

    from the Live Chat

    Q: I think Branch needs to make more plays to be considered a top safety in the NFL. Can I get some forced fumbles, INT’s , passes defensed & tackles for a loss? or do we pay top dollar for 100+ tackle seasons like Gibril Wilson ???

    A: Agreed. Ouch, don’t mention Gibril Wilson in these parts.

  1477. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    So. could somebody explain the Healthcare issue to me in kindergarten wording, I really am clueless on the topic. are there two sides?

  1478. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Tyvon Branch only has 3 forced fumbles, 3 INT’s & 15 passes defensed in 4 years with Oakland …

    Michael Griffin (Titans) who also received the franchise tag this offseason and was just rewarded with a 5-year $35 million contract ** that Branch wants to match ** had 6 forced fumbles, 14 INT’s & 37 passes defensed in his last 4 years with Tennessee

    Source: http://www.profootballweekly.com

  1479. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Tyvon Branch only has 3 forced fumbles, 3 INT’s & 15 passes defensed in 4 years with Oakland …

    Michael Huff had 3 forced fumbles, 8 INT’s & 30 passes defensed in his last 4 years with Oakland …

    “7/31/2011: Signed a four-year, $32 million contract. The deal contains $16 million guaranteed”

    Can we afford to pay both safeties a combined $16 million?

    Huff has clearly outplayed Branch in the same defense!

  1480. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    how can you franchise tag in 2012 a safety that has only palyed in Disco Era Defenses?…Reggie Mac is the man, but I was really surprised by the franchise tag.

  1481. MistaBrown Says:

    First of all its not about HC it’s about Govt forcing its will on the people (you).
    Second, there is now nothing the govt cannnot force you to buy.

    Your liberty and the constitution just went out the window. Go celebrate with Hwn & KK.
    ______

    Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 8:39 am

    So. could somebody explain the Healthcare issue to me in kindergarten wording, I really am clueless on the topic. are there two sides?

  1482. RaiderRockstar Says:

    @ Randy Savage

    mo govt , mo problems

  1483. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Your liberty and the constitution just went out the window. Go celebrate with Hwn & KK.

    ***

    @ Mr Brown

    Hwnrdr = pro_bama ?

  1484. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    saw last night the NFL’s 100 greatest players… had brady at 4 and Megatron at 3…. if all the players in the NFL were free agents and you had a draft, I would bet my left nut that Brady would be drafted ahead of Megatron. The NFL Network need to hire me to explain this things to them.

  1485. hwnrdr Says:

    MistaBrown Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 8:34 am
    Hwn, who cares about the fines. The question is what will the govt be dictating next?

    You obviously dont get it but maybe 5 years from now when its way too late you might.

    Come on MB, i do get it! Getting fined is also a way that they impose their will on you! I was a big X-file fan in the 90’s…Trust no one! And at one point, I was thinking about leaving the country for a bit! However, that is still a long shot! many more countries out there that are worse!

  1486. MistaBrown Says:

    RRS, its only a 1% fine.
    _____

    hwnrdr Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 8:20 am

    Yeah, what was it? 1% of your income in fines if you’re caught without insurance?

  1487. hwnrdr Says:

    On average, people make what? 30-40K a year? 1% is still a hefty fine. Then what about 2nd offense?

  1488. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “Now govt can force you to buy health insurance.”

    Not sure why anyone is surprised by this the government already makes us wear seat belts motor cycle helmets. they make you buy car insurance and they make you pay for tabs for your car they make you pay for SS which will not be there when most of us retire.

    Reagan and Judge Rehnquist wiped their ass with the constitution and did away with our 4th amendment rights all in the name of the war on drugs. It used to be that your property was yours and law enforcement needed a warrant to search your private property not any more thanks to those 2 losers.

    So you see its no different weather you vote Democrat or Republican they both allow government to dig deeper into you lives and they both take more of your money than is necessary.

    We need another party that can stand up for us and say no more!!!!

  1489. MistaBrown Says:

    Hwn, if you “get it” you wouldn’t be pointing out its only a 1% tax or other countries are worse. If this doesn’t get repealed by Romney this country will never recover. Next it will be YOU can only drive a electric car or you can ONLY use so much energy in your home.

    Wake the FK up.

  1490. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    Lets see. The constitutionality of the health-care law was upheld. Hospital Operators stocks are up big, and there are people in the streets….I think I get it.

  1491. guest123 Says:

    many more countries out there that are worse!

    *******

    damn skippy!

    you don’t like ‘merica….do us a favor and leave. Hate on us all you want from offshore. hate on our first world standard of living. go out and see how they live and then come back and complain.

  1492. hwnrdr Says:

    Reading the news, Prez could be in trouble because of this! Well, we the people, for the people…I think that went out the door a long time ago!

  1493. DJ Johnny Says:

    1484.Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 8:44 am
    saw last night the NFL’s 100 greatest players… had brady at 4 and Megatron at 3…. if all the players in the NFL were free agents and you had a draft, I would bet my left nut that Brady would be drafted ahead of Megatron. The NFL Network need to hire me to explain this things to them.

    Did you notice they said Megatron “can’t be stopped even when a team’s entire game plan is geared to stop him”.? Then they showed film of him catching passes against the Raiders.

    Was Raiders game plan geared up specifically stop him in that game?

    I know they didn’t stop him, but was that the specific goal of Bresnahan’s D?

  1494. hwnrdr Says:

    MistaBrown Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 8:48 am
    Hwn, if you “get it” you wouldn’t be pointing out its only a 1% tax or other countries are worse. If this doesn’t get repealed by Romney this country will never recover. Next it will be YOU can only drive a electric car or you can ONLY use so much energy in your home.

    Wake the FK up.

    I never said ONLY 1% bro!

  1495. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “Your liberty and the constitution just went out the window.”

    As it did with the post 911 laws.

    As it did when Reagan and Rehnquist took our 4th amendment rights away to help enforce the war on drugs.

    As it did when they made it law to have car insurance.

    The list goes on and on!

    You see its OK for them to wipe their ass with the constitution but YOU better not do it!

  1496. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “Lets see. The constitutionality of the health-care law was upheld. Hospital Operators stocks are up big, and there are people in the streets….I think I get it.”

    WRONG!

    Wall street is down today there is a negative reaction to this financially.

    No one wins when the government makes new regulations!

  1497. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Yeah, what was it? 1% of your income in fines if you’re caught without insurance?

    ***

    @Hwnrdr

    “caught” without insurance? I work for the largest hospital chain in Missouri and some folks simply elect to go self pay. others that don’t have it can apply for a grant. We have a sign in the urgent care that states we’re not allowed to turn you away if you don’t have insurance and [by law] we have to treat you the same as everybody else. My brother-n-law is self employed and the only reason they signed up for insurance was because my sis got pregnant and it was cheaper for them to have it versus paying out of pocket for everything. Before that they had nothing. there is no penalty for not having health insurance, in Missouri anyway. it’s up the the health care facility what forms of payment are acceptable.

  1498. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    Was Raiders game plan geared up specifically stop him in that game?

    I know they didn’t stop him, but was that the specific goal of Bresnahan’s D?
    ++++++++++++++++++

    With Chuky B you never know. But its not a good example cause Chuky B defenses are not NFL defenses. Anyways, its easier to stop Megatron than Brady.

  1499. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    “Lets see. The constitutionality of the health-care law was upheld. Hospital Operators stocks are up big, and there are people in the streets….I think I get it.”

    WRONG!
    +++++++
    WRONG?
    HCA Holdings, HCA +9.55% THC Healthcare THC +8.03% and Community Health Systems CYH +9.75% all gained.

  1500. hwnrdr Says:

    Ok, maybe I read wrong, but I understood that the 1% of total income yearly could be the fine! Yea, I know its not that way now! What Mista was saying was that this is the first of what’s to come.

  1501. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Did you notice they said Megatron “can’t be stopped even when a team’s entire game plan is geared to stop him”.? Then they showed film of him catching passes against the Raiders.

    Was Raiders game plan geared up specifically stop him in that game?

    I know they didn’t stop him, but was that the specific goal of Bresnahan’s D?

    ***

    @DJG

    Yes!!

    http://blog.sfgate.com/raiders/2011/12/22/q-and-a-with-chuck-bresnahan/

  1502. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Not sure why everyone is so up in arms about this as this is a pattern we have seen many times in our lives with regards to government raping us and our civil liberties thrown out the door in the name of regulation or oversight.

    This to me is typical government BS that both parties have forced on us.

    We need a new party!

  1503. Silverandblack666 Says:

    S&P
    1,318.16003
    -13.69
    -1.03%

    Nasdaq
    2,834.22
    -41.10
    -1.43%

    Dow
    12,491.38
    -135.63
    -1.07%

    10-Year Bond
    1.58
    -0.05
    -2.84%

    Gold
    1,554.30
    -24.10
    -1.53%

    This is Wall Streets reaction to the Supreme courts decision. Sure a few health care stocks are up but in general what you see above is Wall Streets reaction to this.

  1504. MistaBrown Says:

    Bingo!
    ____

    hwnrdr Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 8:57 am

    What Mista was saying was that this is the first of what’s to come.

  1505. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “HCA Holdings, HCA +9.55% THC Healthcare THC +8.03% and Community Health Systems CYH +9.75% all gained.”

    Yes you are correct about these few stocks but I was talking about Wall Street in general not a few select stocks.

    I must have misunderstood your earlier post Sorry Macho Man Randy Savage I apologize.

  1506. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Hospital Operators stocks are up big, and there are people in the streets

    ***

    False!

    hospital is losing money big time. Medicare & Medicaid (Medi-cal in CA) are slashing reimbursement like crazy and half the time it doesn’t even cover the cost of our drugs & supplies. We end up treating the patients anyway and losing money in the process. We can’t fault the patients for having a crappy pay source. We’re taking care of them because nobody else will and we’re going friggin bankrupt, having to cut down employees. increase the cost of our insurance, retirement, etc

    insurance = crooks. they give you a Prior Authorization for treatment, you provide the service, then they deny it as not medically necessary. you reviewed the medical records and the patient’s policy before we even freaking treated Mr. Smith. Even gave us this nice letter that says it’ll be covered at 100%. you’d be amazed the stories I hear in the beancounters office!!

  1507. guest123 Says:

    insurance = crooks.

    ****

    yes

  1508. MistaBrown Says:

    And purp lips raided how much from medicare/medicaid to help pay for this garbage, 500 mil ?
    _______

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 9:05 am

    hospital is losing money big time. Medicare & Medicaid (Medi-cal in CA) are slashing reimbursement like crazy

  1509. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    This is Wall Streets reaction to the Supreme courts decision. Sure a few health care stocks are up but in general what you see above is Wall Streets reaction to this.
    +++++++++

    So you think this ruling has a major impact on the future of the economy? I understand the impact on Hospital Operators and Insurance Co.s…hmmm,how?

  1510. hwnrdr Says:

    Agreed Rockstar! Insurance Companies are the biggest crooks! And we need them? Crazy, yes!

  1511. Sullivan44 Says:

    Mitt Romney was just on CNN giving his November concession speech!

  1512. Method To My Madness Says:

    SullyMR to the rescue!…hows Sac treatin ya?

  1513. Raider O Says:

    Hwnrdr talking politics?!
    You People are a bad influence.

  1514. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “So you think this ruling has a major impact on the future of the economy? ”

    Not exactly just that the DOW and S&P usually take a dump when regulation like this is introduced by government.

    The long term effects of this are hard to predict.

  1515. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Example:

    Oil is down from $110 a barrel in March to $79 a barrel today.

    Yet we are still paying over $3.50 a gallon for gas.

    WHY?

    Government regulation and California State taxes THAT’S WHY!

  1516. Dakota Says:

    1512.Sullivan44 Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 9:10 am
    Mitt Romney was just on CNN giving his November concession speech!
    ++++++++

    The 79% of independants that want Ob@macare overturned in whole or in part are about to kick the Prez out of the White House.

  1517. Sullivan44 Says:

    The President on now. He looks a lot better today than he has in recent weeks. He looks like his 2008 self. The wind in his back. And right on time, too.

  1518. Dakota Says:

    independents@

  1519. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Hwnrdr talking politics?!
    You People are a bad influence.

    ***

    Agreed, O

    AM crew semi pro’s should be left alone.
    they keep this blog alive!

    I worked in the soup kitchen this past weekend and saw Shane Lechler and his family lined up. He smelled bad, looked like he hadn’t showered in weeks. Was showing some of the other homeless guys how far he could kick a trash can

    thought you might like an update, since you kicked him to the curb. I tried to lift his spirits, showing him a picture of Terdell Sands cleaning restrooms in the mall. didn’t even crack a smile

  1520. Method To My Madness Says:

    1517.Sullivan44 Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 9:19 am
    The President on now. He looks a lot better today than he has in recent weeks. He looks like his 2008 self. The wind in his back. And right on time, too.

    *********

    LOL comedy

  1521. RaiderRockstar Says:

    we are still paying over $3.50 a gallon for gas

    ***

    @silver

    $3.19 in Podunk today

    whoop whoop!!

  1522. JR Says:

    How ya doin’ Sean,

    Will this new health care plan cover retired NFL players too?

    Go Knights!

    ————————————————
    Sullivan44 Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 9:19 am

    The President on now. He looks a lot better today than he has in recent weeks. He looks like his 2008 self. The wind in his back. And right on time, too.

  1523. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Great read on how TYVON BRANCH shut down the great Rob Gronkowski, he finished with 1 catch for 15 yards.

    http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/06/23/countering-the-trend-how-branch-shut-down-gronkowski/

  1524. Sullivan44 Says:

    Dakota, Mitt Romney is an unappealing candidate who just got less appealing today. Did you see him speak today? He gave his November concession speech for crying out loud. Looking like he wanted to cry, vowing to “fight on”. lol. That’s what every election loser says.

  1525. Method To My Madness Says:

    1523.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 9:22 am
    Great read on how TYVON BRANCH shut down the great Rob Gronkowski, he finished with 1 catch for 15 yards.

    http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/06/23/countering-the-trend-how-branch-shut-down-gronkowski/

    *****************

    We got whipped still that day

  1526. RaiderRockstar Says:

    He looks a lot better today than he has in recent weeks. He looks like his 2008 self

    ***

    Prez BO quit smoking and his wife is the new Richard Simmons

    so he should probably look better now than he did back then!

  1527. Sullivan44 Says:

    Looks like JR’s on to something!

  1528. Sullivan44 Says:

    Being president’s a tough job, RRS. Puts some years on you. That’s why Romney will look the same age 4 years from now as he does today.

  1529. Method To My Madness Says:

    Well Sully black power is in full effect aint it? You gonna have a bean pie rally in celebration for it or what?

  1530. Method To My Madness Says:

    1528.Sullivan44 Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 9:25 am
    Being president’s a tough job, RRS. Puts some years on you. That’s why Romney will look the same age 4 years from now as he does today.

    ********

    Must be real tough doing nothing as Odumba has done the last 3.5 years

  1531. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 9:23 am
    1523.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 9:22 am
    Great read on how TYVON BRANCH shut down the great Rob Gronkowski, he finished with 1 catch for 15 yards.

    http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/06/23/countering-the-trend-how-branch-shut-down-gronkowski/

    *****************

    We got whipped still that day

    —-

    Doesnt diminish what he did.

    But that’s what I expect to hear from the anti-Branch crowd.

  1532. Raider O Says:

    LOL RR.
    I bet he can kick the crap out of that can.
    Poor lechler?! What did he do with all the money Al gave him?

  1533. theghostronin79 Says:

    Thanks for trying DAV

  1534. Method To My Madness Says:

    1531.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 9:27 am
    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 9:23 am
    1523.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 9:22 am
    Great read on how TYVON BRANCH shut down the great Rob Gronkowski, he finished with 1 catch for 15 yards.

    http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/06/23/countering-the-trend-how-branch-shut-down-gronkowski/

    *****************

    We got whipped still that day

    —-

    Doesnt diminish what he did.

    But that’s what I expect to hear from the anti-Branch crowd.

    *******

    When have I ever said I was anti branch? You wont see that ever

  1535. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “Well Sully black power is in full effect aint it? You gonna have a bean pie rally in celebration for it or what?”

    LMFAO damn that’s funny!

    Here is a clip for you:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPxs0Qh72kY

  1536. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    theghostronin79 Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 9:28 am
    Thanks for trying DAV

    —-

    Trying what?

  1537. Raidernationdave Says:

    Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaang O!

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Raider O Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 9:27 am

    LOL RR.
    I bet he can kick the crap out of that can.
    Poor lechler?! What did he do with all the money Al gave him?

  1538. Sullivan44 Says:

    I think all of these rural right wingers are just mad today because now they’re going to have doctors. That means some elite city slicker telling them they need to lose a couple hundred pounds, and that eating at Arby’s 5 times a day is not good for them.

  1539. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 9:28 am
    1531.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 9:27 am
    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 9:23 am
    1523.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 9:22 am
    Great read on how TYVON BRANCH shut down the great Rob Gronkowski, he finished with 1 catch for 15 yards.

    http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/06/23/countering-the-trend-how-branch-shut-down-gronkowski/

    *****************

    We got whipped still that day

    —-

    Doesnt diminish what he did.

    But that’s what I expect to hear from the anti-Branch crowd.

    *******

    When have I ever said I was anti branch? You wont see that ever

    —-

    No, I didnt say you, I mean thats the response I expect to hear from that crowd.

  1540. theghostronin79 Says:

    I agree that Branch needs to make more “Impact” plays, turnovers and whatnot. But I love his attitude and tackling ability, plus he never gives up on plays. We could do alot worse. Who really cares WHAT he’s asking for contract wise? Sheeeit, it ain’t my money.

  1541. RaiderRockstar Says:

    TYVON BRANCH shut down the great Rob Gronkowski, he finished with 1 catch for 15 yards

    ***

    Reality call and he wants to talk to you!

    McClain called the Pats a “finesse” team in an interview a few days prior to this game.

    Pats then promptly rushed for 185 yards & 2 TD’s on 28 carries.

    Brady hit Welker 9 times for 158 yards and another score.

    Rob Gronkowski wasn’t even needed. they could have lined up 42 year old Ben Coates out there and got the same result

  1542. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    Gotta love Slowlando calling them a finesse team and then getting his fat ax run over…typical Slowlando.

  1543. Sullivan44 Says:

    Yeah, Brien, the president’s done nothing…except of course killing Bin Laden and making health care affordable to the poor. Not bad for a first term, really. Especially considering the catastrophe he inherited, both domestically and on the war front.

  1544. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 9:32 am
    TYVON BRANCH shut down the great Rob Gronkowski, he finished with 1 catch for 15 yards

    ***

    Reality call and he wants to talk to you!

    McClain called the Pats a “finesse” team in an interview a few days prior to this game.

    Pats then promptly rushed for 185 yards & 2 TD’s on 28 carries.

    Brady hit Welker 9 times for 158 yards and another score.

    Rob Gronkowski wasn’t even needed. they could have lined up 42 year old Ben Coates out there and got the same result

    —-

    They did that to everyone, every game, with Gronkowski putting up his usual #s.

    Didnt happen against us. Because Branch shut him down.

  1545. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    T’Wolves offered the W’s Derrick Williams for the #7 pick.

  1546. theghostronin79 Says:

    Yes, it was embarrassing

  1547. RaiderRockstar Says:

    McClain called the Pats a “finesse” team in an interview a few days prior to this game.

    Pats then promptly rushed for 185 yards & 2 TD’s on 28 carries.

    response = “They did that to everyone, every game”

    ***

    LOL!! they entered the game DEAD LAST in rushing.

    Pats weren’t running on anybody, except us.
    Same with Ryan Grant [Packers]. look it up!

  1548. Method To My Madness Says:

    1539.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 9:30 am
    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 9:28 am
    1531.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 9:27 am
    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 9:23 am
    1523.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 9:22 am
    Great read on how TYVON BRANCH shut down the great Rob Gronkowski, he finished with 1 catch for 15 yards.

    http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/06/23/countering-the-trend-how-branch-shut-down-gronkowski/

    *****************

    We got whipped still that day

    —-

    Doesnt diminish what he did.

    But that’s what I expect to hear from the anti-Branch crowd.

    *******

    When have I ever said I was anti branch? You wont see that ever

    —-

    No, I didnt say you, I mean thats the response I expect to hear from that crowd.

    ********

    for the record…i like Tyvon….he has improved every year and makes some plays….hard hitter and never gives up on a play…big and fast just like an Al Davis player…glad he is on our team but 8 mil? woooooooo i dunno but 2012 he will play well again

  1549. R8ER MIKE Says:

    O.. Whats good WORD today my GreenParty brother ??

  1550. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “Pats then promptly rushed for 185 yards & 2 TD’s on 28 carries.

    Brady hit Welker 9 times for 158 yards and another score.”

    That does not sound like anyone shut anyone down if you ask me that was a flat out ass whippin!

    Who cares if one of their receivers had bad game they pounded our whole team!!!

  1551. Method To My Madness Says:

    1545.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 9:36 am
    T’Wolves offered the W’s Derrick Williams for the #7 pick.

    ********

    YES YES YES YES YES YES YES

  1552. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    DJ Sulli = StrahanManNY?

  1553. theghostronin79 Says:

    Not to mention the Detroit and Buffalo fiasco

  1554. Method To My Madness Says:

    1543.Sullivan44 Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 9:35 am
    Yeah, Brien, the president’s done nothing…except of course killing Bin Laden and making health care affordable to the poor. Not bad for a first term, really. Especially considering the catastrophe he inherited, both domestically and on the war front.

    **************

    Ooooh he killed an old guy who was already dead basically lol…good job odumba you finally found a 6′8 guy attached to a machine…..health care plan is a joke from him…….ooh the blame game on Bush….typical cowardly response from Odumba ppl

  1555. Method To My Madness Says:

    1552.Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 9:40 am
    DJ Sulli = StrahanManNY?

    *************

    LOL….he gonna act like you spoke a different language to him

  1556. Sullivan44 Says:

    I hear Rush Limbaugh’s bashing the SCOTUS now. That’s great. Didn’t he praise the court after Citizens United?

  1557. Method To My Madness Says:

    1553.theghostronin79 Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 9:41 am
    Not to mention the Detroit and Buffalo fiasco

    ***********

    oh god….dont remind us….10-6 if we wrapped those up…sickening but Det loss was worse cuz I had to sit through that madness….i watched grown men with tears in their eyes…I was just in complete shock and went to Hilton and drunk myself to insanity

  1558. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Chad Ochocinco had 2 catches for 26 yards.
    Deion Branch had 1 catch for 4 yards.

    great job Joe Porter & Chimdi Chekwa !!

  1559. Method To My Madness Says:

    SullyMR….Rush Limbaugh is a Raider fan? What do you think he thinks of our team in 2012…any thoughts?

  1560. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Google Sean Sullivan Sacramento lol or djsulli.com

  1561. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Mike Mitchell was the only guy to sack Tom Brady too.

    missed all preseason & first 3 games of regular season due to injury

    MM34 = beast, lol

    Seymour, Kelly & Wimbley kept Brady’s jersey pretty clean that day

  1562. Method To My Madness Says:

    1560.Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 9:47 am
    Google Sean Sullivan Sacramento lol or djsulli.com

    (((((((((((((((((((((

    LOL cool site…..Sulli be mixing it up I bet

  1563. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Gronkowski had at least 4 catches 50 yards & a TD against everyone but 2 teams.

    Jets & Raiders.

    Yea Brady just decided not to throw to him those days.

  1564. Sullivan44 Says:

    Brien, Bin Laden got a free pass for 6 years as Bush wasted trillions of tax payer dollars on his own personal crusade in Iraq, resulting in thousands of young American soldiers and innocent Iraqis dying for absolutely nothing. In January of 2009, that changed. We had a new sheriff in town who promised to end the Iraq War, put the pursuit back on Bin Laden, and “kill him”. Done, done, and done.

  1565. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    And Gronkowski’s 1 catch for 15 yards came on a play Branch wasnt covering him.

  1566. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    ‘…we’re going friggin bankrupt, having to cut down employees.’
    ==============================================
    Pretty ironic, isn’t it ?

    This comment comes from a hospital employee that’s here all day, every day, BLOGGING.

    Makes you wonder, doesn’t it ?

  1567. RaiderDuck Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 9:50 am
    Brien, Bin Laden got a free pass for 6 years as Bush wasted trillions of tax payer dollars on his own personal crusade in Iraq, resulting in thousands of young American soldiers and innocent Iraqis dying for absolutely nothing. In January of 2009, that changed. We had a new sheriff in town who promised to end the Iraq War, put the pursuit back on Bin Laden, and “kill him”. Done, done, and done.

    ==============================================

    And don’t forget that a Romney win this November would result in a shooting war with Iran. Mittens has to pay back his defense contractor contributors, after all.

  1568. theghostronin79 Says:

    Seymour, Kelly & Wimbley kept Brady’s jersey pretty clean that day

    ===========

    And what the hell happened against SD in final game? Rivers was in the pocket texting his Momma and smoking a cigar.
    In the first meeting he was picking himself up off the ground on every other play.

  1569. Method To My Madness Says:

    1564.Sullivan44 Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 9:50 am
    Brien, Bin Laden got a free pass for 6 years as Bush wasted trillions of tax payer dollars on his own personal crusade in Iraq, resulting in thousands of young American soldiers and innocent Iraqis dying for absolutely nothing. In January of 2009, that changed. We had a new sheriff in town who promised to end the Iraq War, put the pursuit back on Bin Laden, and “kill him”. Done, done, and done.

    **********

    Nevermind that…who is a better DJ you or Odumba

  1570. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Gronkowski had at least 4 catches 50 yards & a TD against everyone but 2 teams.

    Jets & Raiders

    ***

    thanks for the sidebar and attempt to spin the convo in a different direction.

    hey McClain had 5 tackles that day. I know you guys are enamored with tackle #’s … should I submit an article to PFF about the greatness of McClain?

    I’ll need some help from Jhill & JFB writing it, without laughing.

  1571. Just Fire Baby Says:

    This is actually the worst thing for the Prez.

    With the uncertainity of the new healthcare laws fully intact, hiring will go on a freeze, and you will see unemployment over 8.5% by the dabates.

    And the market is tumbling outside of health insurance companies, public enemy no #1 on this whole debate.

  1572. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/06/04/secret-superstar-tyvon-branch-ss-oakland-raiders/

  1573. Raider O Says:

    ODB,

    Haven’t you hear?!
    Bird!!!
    Bird, bird, bird! Bird is the word? lol

    Getting ready to start a huge forset fire. Smokey the bear is in trouble.

  1574. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Gronkowski’s 1 catch for 15 yards came on a play Branch wasnt covering him.

    ***

    let me guess, DAV.

    Giordano?

  1575. guest123 Says:

    And what the hell happened against SD in final game? Rivers was in the pocket texting his Momma and smoking a cigar.
    In the first meeting he was picking himself up off the ground on every other play.
    *********

    Wimbley got 4 sacks in the first game going up against the Chargers 3rd string tackle. That swim move that day was money. Didn’t work so well against the starter though.

  1576. Sullivan44 Says:

    Vegas, if there’s business out there looking to sabotage the president, as you seem to be implying, they would do it no matter how the courts ruled today.

  1577. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 9:54 am
    Gronkowski had at least 4 catches 50 yards & a TD against everyone but 2 teams.

    Jets & Raiders

    ***

    thanks for the sidebar and attempt to spin the convo in a different direction.

    hey McClain had 5 tackles that day. I know you guys are enamored with tackle #’s … should I submit an article to PFF about the greatness of McClain?

    I’ll need some help from Jhill & JFB writing it, without laughing.

    —-

    Different direction?

    Men & women lie, #s dont.

    Branch shut him down.

    Sorry that doesnt make your viewpoint on Branch seem credible.

    Thing is, it isnt.

  1578. Sullivan44 Says:

    *businesses*

  1579. Raider O Says:

    Heard*

  1580. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 9:55 am
    Gronkowski’s 1 catch for 15 yards came on a play Branch wasnt covering him.

    ***

    let me guess, DAV.

    Giordano?

    —-

    Dont know, dont care who it was.

    Thats not my point.

    You seem to have a hard time staying on point.

  1581. RaiderRockstar Says:

    the Patriots game is the perfect summary of Jacoby Ford.

    zero catches, but 1 reverse for 30 yards.

    2 kickoff returns:
    one for 27 yards. the other for negative 5

    LOL!!

  1582. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    I appreciate guys like RRS who dont just believe what they are told, but there comes a time where facts are in front of your face and you just look foolish discrediting them.

  1583. Method To My Madness Says:

    1576.Sullivan44 Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 9:57 am
    Vegas, if there’s business out there looking to sabotage the president, as you seem to be implying, they would do it no matter how the courts ruled today.

    **************

    You should be in Juice 2 co-starring with Omar Epps

  1584. R8ER MIKE Says:

    Raider O Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 9:55 am
    ODB,

    Haven’t you hear?!
    Bird!!!
    Bird, bird, bird! Bird is the word? lol

    Getting ready to start a huge forset fire. Smokey the bear is in trouble.

    ***************************
    LMAO !!
    you lucky ba$tard.. have to wait till 5:00 to
    start a fire here !!

  1585. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 9:58 am
    the Patriots game is the perfect summary of Jacoby Ford.

    zero catches, but 1 reverse for 30 yards.

    2 kickoff returns:
    one for 27 yards. the other for negative 5

    LOL!!

    —-

    Your not helping yourself man.

  1586. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Men & women lie, #s dont

    ***

    @DAV

    ok, so what about the lack of numbers [besides tackles, naturally] for Branch I posted earlier about his lack of playmaking ability ??

    those didn’t lie, either?

    Al Davis’ defense made Branch the player we’ve all seen. Yet you blame it for his lack of production. Then say he should be paid top dollar. seems a bit odd

  1587. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Vegas, if there’s business out there looking to sabotage the president, as you seem to be implying, they would do it no matter how the courts ruled today.

    *****************

    Nobody is trying to sabotage anybody, facts are, this may be the gretest Healtchcare bill ever, but the Prez has done a piss-poor job convincing employers to get over the their fears, and hiring will freeae until he does some convincing.

    Of course, actually having ANY of the bill take place in the fisrt few years of it would have helped, but since not, we have to go off his words.

  1588. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 9:39 am
    1545.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 9:36 am
    T’Wolves offered the W’s Derrick Williams for the #7 pick.

    ********

    YES YES YES YES YES YES YES

    —-

    Amnesty Lee?..

  1589. Method To My Madness Says:

    1588.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 10:02 am
    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 9:39 am
    1545.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 9:36 am
    T’Wolves offered the W’s Derrick Williams for the #7 pick.

    ********

    YES YES YES YES YES YES YES

    —-

    Amnesty Lee?..

    *******************

    YES YES YES YES

  1590. Sullivan44 Says:

    Brien, your references to hip hop culture aren’t that impressive. So far you’ve demonstrated your overall grasp of it to be right there with the average suburban white guy’s. References to 90’s movies that everyone and their mothers, of every race, have seen.

  1591. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 10:02 am
    Men & women lie, #s dont

    ***

    @DAV

    ok, so what about the lack of numbers [besides tackles, naturally] for Branch I posted earlier about his lack of playmaking ability ??

    those didn’t lie, either?

    Al Davis’ defense made Branch the player we’ve all seen. Yet you blame it for his lack of production. Then say he should be paid top dollar. seems a bit odd

    —-

    Al Davis’ scheme had nothing to do with Tyvon Branch lining up with the best TE in the NFL, who’s QB threw to him succesfully no matter what all year long, and shutting him down. Period.

    DeAngelo Hall is your favorite CB by the playmaking logic you seem to live & die by.

  1592. Method To My Madness Says:

    DjSulli….can i come to your next gig and see you spin the record like Pauly D?

  1593. RaiderRockstar Says:

    “Your not helping yourself man.”

    ***

    I wasn’t talking to you, DAV. That had nothing to do with Gronk or Branch.

    That was mainly for JFB, who always points out that Murphy > Ford. Gave him some ammo for that running debate he has going with Thec & others

  1594. Method To My Madness Says:

    1590.Sullivan44 Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 10:04 am
    Brien, your references to hip hop culture aren’t that impressive. So far you’ve demonstrated your overall grasp of it to be right there with the average suburban white guy’s. References to 90’s movies that everyone and their mothers, of every race, have seen.

    *********

    Juice was a dope ass movie….I wanna see you go up against GQ in the finals…let’s see who is local and who is internationally known

    Yeah yeah MR….let us all know how black you are again…we all believe ya know DJSulli

  1595. RaiderRockstar Says:

    DeAngelo Hall is your favorite CB by the playmaking logic you seem to live & die by.

    ***

    more spin.

    you also admit you don’t know who the heck gave up a reception to Gronk, but it couldn’t have been Branch who was responsible for “shutting him down” LOL

  1596. Sullivan44 Says:

    Vegas, you know what you were implying. And this has been one of the war cries from the sore losers on the right since 2008. That businesses are going to sock their money away and freeze hiring until the president is out of the white house. What kind of president would govern under such a threat? Do the police throw a million dollars to a mad gunman because he demands it?

  1597. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 10:05 am
    “Your not helping yourself man.”

    ***

    I wasn’t talking to you, DAV. That had nothing to do with Gronk or Branch.

    That was mainly for JFB, who always points out that Murphy > Ford. Gave him some ammo for that running debate he has going with Thec & others

    —-

    Murph better than Ford?

    Interesting.

  1598. Sullivan44 Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 10:07 am

    Juice was a dope ass movie

    ………..

    Now nothing says street cred like that.

  1599. Method To My Madness Says:

    1598.Sullivan44 Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 10:08 am
    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 10:07 am

    Juice was a dope ass movie

    ………..

    Now nothing says street cred like that.

    ******

    Come on DjSulli…as a black man you should dig Juice…its a classic amongst our people

  1600. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 10:07 am
    DeAngelo Hall is your favorite CB by the playmaking logic you seem to live & die by.

    ***

    more spin.

    you also admit you don’t know who the heck gave up a reception to Gronk, but it couldn’t have been Branch who was responsible for “shutting him down” LOL

    —-

    IDK who it was because the article doesnt mention who it was, it just says it wasnt Branch.

    Cause I read the article, I just didnt see it and make a poopy face because it goes against something I have said.

  1601. Sullivan44 Says:

    “Juice was a dope ass movie”

    Only Jamie Kennedy in Malibu’s Most Wanted could have put it better.

  1602. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Giordano at one safety, DeAngelo Hall at one CB spot…

    RRS… “playmakuhs”… Get the checkbook out boys.

  1603. Sullivan44 Says:

    If I’m ever stranded in the hood, I’m just going to say,

    “Juice is a dope ass movie!”

    Instant street cred.

  1604. Method To My Madness Says:

    1601.Sullivan44 Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 10:10 am
    “Juice was a dope ass movie”

    Only Jamie Kennedy in Malibu’s Most Wanted could have put it better.

    *******

    Never seen it…enlighten me my brotha

  1605. Method To My Madness Says:

    1603.Sullivan44 Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 10:11 am
    If I’m ever stranded in the hood, I’m just going to say,

    “Juice is a dope ass movie!”

    Instant street cred.

    *********

    Naw…i got a better suggestion….just break out the tables and get the spinnin my brotha

  1606. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Al Davis’ scheme had nothing to do with Tyvon Branch lining up with the best TE in the NFL, who’s QB threw to him succesfully no matter what all year long, and shutting him down. Period.

    ***

    Ok, DAV. yesterday you blamed the Al Davis defense. Today you don’t. Lets review the past 4 years of Tyvon Branch. You tell us which games to blame on Al Davis and which ones not to. fair enough?

    by the way, I know Branch had 4 tackles that Sunday against N.E. but he only had 1 pass defensed [stats courtesy of NFL.com] but how many times did Brady throw to Gronk? twice?

    one ball he batted down, if we’re assuming he was covering Gronk on the play

    the other a completion, when somebody else was covering him

    that it?

    if you can’t answer these questions and try to spin it again, i’m just going to assume you dont know what the heck you’re talking about and basing 100% of your opinion off of that PFF article written by Branch’s agent

  1607. Method To My Madness Says:

    DjSulli…now that we do know you are a DJ, cuz i can admit you know music pretty well…will you go up against Beecher and a UltraTrannynetic Crew in a showdown?

  1608. Sullivan44 Says:

    Brien, I know why you’re so pleasant. You were an Al Davis loyalist and you’re a political conservative. It’s a recipe for happiness, isn’t it?

  1609. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Celtics trying to get into top 14… Rivers going after Rivers?..

  1610. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I appreciate guys like RRS who dont just believe what they are told

    IDK who it was because the article doesnt mention who it was, it just says it wasnt Branch.

    ***

    DAV strikes out

  1611. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Branch topic is dead.

    who’s next?

  1612. Method To My Madness Says:

    1608.Sullivan44 Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 10:14 am
    Brien, I know why you’re so pleasant. You were an Al Davis loyalist and you’re a political conservative. It’s a recipe for happiness, isn’t it?

    *************

    Al Davis loyalist for sure….political conservo? Naw…I just dont follow everything the liberals want…especially older black ones like Kell

    But hey instead of battling Beecher why dont you spin some records for him and let him drop some funky fresh flows over them?

    you guys can be like Rakim and Eric B……Dj Premier and Guru…hell KRS-one and DJ Scott La Rock!

  1613. theghostronin79 Says:

    Everything works together really. You could make the case that with better D-line pressure, our DB’s wouldn’t have to chase receivers all over the damn field with their backs to the QB. Not to mention stopping the run would have made teams 1 dimentional and made opposing QB’s force more throws. It’s all a viscious circle that could make everyone look great, or like a giant TURD.

  1614. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 10:13 am
    Al Davis’ scheme had nothing to do with Tyvon Branch lining up with the best TE in the NFL, who’s QB threw to him succesfully no matter what all year long, and shutting him down. Period.

    ***

    Ok, DAV. yesterday you blamed the Al Davis defense. Today you don’t. Lets review the past 4 years of Tyvon Branch. You tell us which games to blame on Al Davis and which ones not to. fair enough?

    by the way, I know Branch had 4 tackles that Sunday against N.E. but he only had 1 pass defensed [stats courtesy of NFL.com] but how many times did Brady throw to Gronk? twice?

    one ball he batted down, if we’re assuming he was covering Gronk on the play

    the other a completion, when somebody else was covering him

    that it?

    if you can’t answer these questions and try to spin it again, i’m just going to assume you dont know what the heck you’re talking about and basing 100% of your opinion off of that PFF article written by Branch’s agent

    —-

    Blamed the Al Davis defense?

    Yet fail to mention why I blamed it?.. Nice touch.

    It failed because we didnt have the personnel/coaches to run it.

    Passes defended are like INT’s they mean you werent covering him good enough that the QB couldnt even attempt a pass.

    Thats FOOTBALL 101 for you junior.

    If you actually read the article it talks about Branch taking Gronk out of the game, he wasnt an option.

    You sonning yourself with your new found obsession with trying to ‘out-wit’ me.

    God Bless.

  1615. RaiderRockstar Says:

    props to Rob Ryan?

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/06/28/demarcus-ware-cowboys-have-a-totally-different-much-better-defense/

    LOL!

  1616. Sullivan44 Says:

    Brien, you don’t follow everything the liberals want?

    Name one single thing you’ve ever agreed with liberals about.

  1617. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 10:15 am
    I appreciate guys like RRS who dont just believe what they are told

    IDK who it was because the article doesnt mention who it was, it just says it wasnt Branch.

    ***

    DAV strikes out

    —-

    Ahh.. the King of taking lines out of context to make himself look good.

    Well played.

  1618. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I appreciate guys like RRS who dont just believe what they are told

    IDK who it was because the article doesnt mention who it was, it just says it wasnt Branch.

    If you actually read the article it talks about Branch taking Gronk out of the game, he wasnt an option.

    ***

    strike 4.

    by the way, I watched the game. I didn’t need to read that article you wrote

  1619. Method To My Madness Says:

    1616.Sullivan44 Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 10:19 am
    Brien, you don’t follow everything the liberals want?

    Name one single thing you’ve ever agreed with liberals about.

    *******

    The bridge is ova the bridge is ova

  1620. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Jason Richardson might end up in Houston in a trade unrelated to Dwight Howard.

  1621. Sullivan44 Says:

    Like I said, Brien. Being a political conservative and someone who blindly followed Al Davis, it’s no wonder you’re such a pleasant person.

  1622. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 10:21 am
    I appreciate guys like RRS who dont just believe what they are told

    IDK who it was because the article doesnt mention who it was, it just says it wasnt Branch.

    If you actually read the article it talks about Branch taking Gronk out of the game, he wasnt an option.

    ***

    strike 4.

    by the way, I watched the game. I didn’t need to read that article you wrote

    —-

    Thats cool. I didnt write it.

    If you dont respect PFF thats cool too.

    God Bless.

  1623. DutchRaider77 Says:

    @DennisAllens
    Pats Game, made sense to put Branch on Gronk. But why the heck didn’t we have Routt on Welker all game or double cover him all game.

  1624. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Caplan says in regards to Raiders 2012 record: 8-8 is possible if Palmer has a good year, defense has issues.

  1625. Method To My Madness Says:

    1621.Sullivan44 Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 10:23 am
    Like I said, Brien. Being a political conservative and someone who blindly followed Al Davis, it’s no wonder you’re such a pleasant person.

    ***************

    Manhattan keeps makin it
    Brooklyn keeps on takin it
    Bronx keeps creatin it
    And Sac keeps on fakin it

  1626. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    DutchRaider77 Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 10:24 am
    @DennisAllens
    Pats Game, made sense to put Branch on Gronk. But why the heck didn’t we have Routt on Welker all game or double cover him all game.

    —-

    IDK man, probably better asking RRS.

    *confetti falls from ceiling, clown rides tricycle into room*

  1627. Raider O Says:

    ODB,

    LOL
    Lucky?!
    I had to destroy my man cave, and then I was forced to clean the mess.
    Yeah MFer. I’m still bitter about that one.

  1628. Method To My Madness Says:

    Go Sulli….that’s my DJ

    Say go Sulli that’s my DJ

  1629. RaiderRockstar Says:

    DAV = one of MR’s trolls?

    yesterday attacks me for being a LeBron/Heat “fan”

    first comment today is some article about Branch that has been re-posted 100 times on here while i’m having a convo with somebody else about him, just because he wants attention and an argument

  1630. Silverandblack666 Says:

    DJ’s are the lowly talent less scrubs residing in the underbelly of the music world.

    They have nothing to offer as they are merely button pushers and care takers of old vinyl records.

    A nutless baby monkey could do what they do.

    Sure if you a 15 year old doing X for the first time the pounding beats feel good and the glow sticks look cool.

    But other than that DJ’s serve no purpose other than to be button pushers.

    A DJ who thinks of himself as a musician is like a janitor who thinks he is an executive in the company.

    Bottom feeders and simpletons if you ask me.

  1631. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 10:28 am
    Go Sulli….that’s my DJ

    Say go Sulli that’s my DJ

    —-

    One of the last decent songs by Wayne until he completely became fake.

  1632. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Ahhh yes, if someone doesnt agree with you, said person is a troll.

  1633. RaiderRockstar Says:

    why the heck didn’t we have Routt on Welker all game or double cover him all game

    ***

    @Dutch

    because Routt sucks in the slot. We’ve known this forever

  1634. Raider O Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 10:16 am
    Branch topic is dead.

    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Finally!!
    You have been talking about him for a long time.
    We get it! You don’t like Branch and 55, so move on.

  1635. Sullivan44 Says:

    Rockstar,

    Don’t forget, Rich Gannon and Marcus Allen are also MR’s clones. MR possesses them. Speaks in their bodies. Same with Mark Davis. MR possessed the soul of Mark Davis, and had him clean out the entire Raiders’ headquarters of Al’s henchmen and their overall stench.

  1636. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Anyone else playing Fantasy Baseball? If so how’s your season going?..

  1637. Method To My Madness Says:

    1635.Sullivan44 Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 10:32 am
    Rockstar,

    Don’t forget, Rich Gannon and Marcus Allen are also MR’s clones. MR possesses them. Speaks in their bodies. Same with Mark Davis. MR possessed the soul of Mark Davis, and had him clean out the entire Raiders’ headquarters of Al’s henchmen and their overall stench.

    ******************

    “Last night a DJ saved my life”

  1638. Sullivan44 Says:

    Oh, and MR also possessed the supreme court today. Every single opinion you disagree with, they’re all MR the troll. He’s the only person in the world who disagrees with you.

  1639. Silverandblack666 Says:

    We will surely find out who sucks and who doesn’t this year as there will be no scheme to blame and no Al Davis to blame.

  1640. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Rich Gannon and Marcus Allen are also MR’s clones

    ***

    thanks for the laugh Sandusky!

  1641. R8ER MIKE Says:

    Damn O sorry to hear about the ManCave brother.
    will burn a tree in its honor sir !!!

  1642. Sullivan44 Says:

    I demand that Michael Huff use the words rather and whether in a sentence, now! We’re going to get to the bottom of this. It’s like the movie The Thing.

  1643. theghostronin79 Says:

    We will surely find out who sucks and who doesn’t this year as there will be no scheme to blame and no Al Davis to blame.

    ========
    Truth

  1644. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 10:34 am
    We will surely find out who sucks and who doesn’t this year as there will be no scheme to blame and no Al Davis to blame.

    —-

    Well, the next 3 years to be fair. But yea..

  1645. Method To My Madness Says:

    1631.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 10:29 am
    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 10:28 am
    Go Sulli….that’s my DJ

    Say go Sulli that’s my DJ

    —-

    One of the last decent songs by Wayne until he completely became fake.

    ******

    Sulli is Fre’ fresh err fresh
    Fre’ fresh err fresh
    Fre’ fresh err fresh
    Fre’ fresh err fresh

  1646. JR Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 10:31 am

    why the heck didn’t we have Routt on Welker all game or double cover him all game

    ***

    @Dutch

    because Routt sucks in the slot. We’ve known this forever

    ———————————————–

    EDIT: because Routt sucks

  1647. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “thanks for the laugh Sandusky!”

    Seems to happen every day in here the makes a buffoonish statement then falls back into the steaming pile of horse sh!t he created.

  1648. DutchRaider77 Says:

    Oh, and MR also possessed the supreme court today. Every single opinion you disagree with, they’re all MR the troll. He’s the only person in the world who disagrees with you.

    _______________________________________________________

    Wow, that is a lot of people who practice incest…

  1649. Sullivan44 Says:

    Here you go, Republicans. Someone finally speaking for you!

    http://www.theonion.com/articles/i-dont-want-health-care-if-just-anyone-can-have-it,11294/

  1650. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    JR Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 10:37 am
    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 10:31 am

    why the heck didn’t we have Routt on Welker all game or double cover him all game

    ***

    @Dutch

    because Routt sucks in the slot. We’ve known this forever

    ———————————————–

    EDIT: because Routt sucks

    —-

    But, but… Routt had 15 passes defended last year?!?!?

    and 4 INT’s!!!! He’s a ‘playmakuh’ alright!!!

  1651. Raider O Says:

    8-8 if CP stays healthy?!
    WTF is wrong with these people? We were 8-8 the last 2 years. Last year we finished 8-8 with one of the worst defenses in Raiders History, we led the league in penalties, our starting QB and RB were injured most of the season, and we lost 4 of the last 5 games.

  1652. JR Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 10:38 am

    JR Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 10:37 am
    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 10:31 am

    why the heck didn’t we have Routt on Welker all game or double cover him all game

    ***

    @Dutch

    because Routt sucks in the slot. We’ve known this forever

    ———————————————–

    EDIT: because Routt sucks

    —-

    But, but… Routt had 15 passes defended last year?!?!?

    and 4 INT’s!!!! He’s a ‘playmakuh’ alright!!!
    ——————————————–
    True playmakers defend more passes than the personal fouls that they commit.

  1653. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Adam Caplan:

    “And for those who think im off on Dennis Allen: do you recall the negativity when Mike McCarthy was named Packers head coach in 2006? Do you recall how bad the 49ers offense was the 1 season he was their OC? They ranked dead last on offense. You can only control so much. Cant blame him or Allen for personnel decisions.”

  1654. hwnrdr Says:

    Wow…over a 1000 more posts since I left? Maybe, maybe not!

  1655. Sullivan44 Says:

    “Can’t blame Al Davis if things go wrong this year” = “Can’t blame Bush. He’s not president anymore”

  1656. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Routt had 15 passes defended last year?!?!?

    and 4 INT’s!!!! He’s a ‘playmakuh’ alright!!!

    ***

    spin & sarcasm at the same time?

    man you have the maturity level of a 5 year old. Congrats

  1657. theghostronin79 Says:

    8-8 if CP stays healthy?!
    WTF is wrong with these people? We were 8-8 the last 2 years. Last year we finished 8-8 with one of the worst defenses in Raiders History, we led the league in penalties, our starting QB and RB were injured most of the season, and we lost 4 of the last 5 games.

    =======

    Tha’ts exactly what I been sayin man….”F”ing Retarted

  1658. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “Wow, that is a lot of people who practice incest…”

    LMFAO good one!

  1659. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    W’s coach Mark Jackson being blackmailed by ex-stripper with nude photos.

  1660. Sullivan44 Says:

    Memo to the Davis loyal:

    If things go bad this year, be sure to say repeatedly that Al is gone, so he can’t be blamed. But feel free to blame past coaches!

  1661. Method To My Madness Says:

    1648.DutchRaider77 Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 10:37 am
    Oh, and MR also possessed the supreme court today. Every single opinion you disagree with, they’re all MR the troll. He’s the only person in the world who disagrees with you.

    _______________________________________________________

    Wow, that is a lot of people who practice incest…

    *******

    And who DJ

  1662. Sullivan44 Says:

    Can’t blame Al if things go bad this year, he’s not there. Has nothing to do with him. But you can blame Hue Jackson! That’s fine.

  1663. hwnrdr Says:

    Wow, the last hour reminds me of 311…All mixed Up! What’s going on in here???

  1664. Method To My Madness Says:

    1659.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 10:43 am
    W’s coach Mark Jackson being blackmailed by ex-stripper with nude photos.

    ******

    at least it wasnt his cousin

  1665. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 10:46 am
    1659.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 10:43 am
    W’s coach Mark Jackson being blackmailed by ex-stripper with nude photos.

    ******

    at least it wasnt his cousin

    —-

    The affair happened 6 years ago, FBI stopped attempted extortion recently.

  1666. Method To My Madness Says:

    1662.Sullivan44 Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 10:44 am
    Can’t blame Al if things go bad this year, he’s not there. Has nothing to do with him. But you can blame Hue Jackson! That’s fine.

    ******

    like you blame Bush? Get em DJ SulliFresh

  1667. R8ER MIKE Says:

    hwnrdr Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 10:45 am
    Wow, the last hour reminds me of 311…All mixed Up! What’s going on in here???

    **********************************
    lol hwnrdr !! you started this by talking politics !!

  1668. Raider O Says:

    ODB,

    Thx bro. I appreciate that.

  1669. Sullivan44 Says:

    311. lol. A ’90s dub ska alt rock reference. Refreshing. Heard Sublime “pawn shop” on the radio yesterday. One of their few songs I liked. Good remake of Wailing Souls.

  1670. alf_capone Says:

    politics suck. both parties are useless. they both are part of the get nothing done agenda because they care more about parties than our country. why fight about it?

  1671. hwnrdr Says:

    R8ER MIKE Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 10:47 am
    hwnrdr Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 10:45 am
    Wow, the last hour reminds me of 311…All mixed Up! What’s going on in here???

    **********************************
    lol hwnrdr !! you started this by talking politics !!

    LOL, ok, ok…I got sucked in! :)

  1672. RaiderRockstar Says:

    @Sully

    I’ll take the bait, but I can’t argue with you all day about it. I consider myself “Davis loyal” but I realize what a mess he left Reggie. You can’t clean all that up in just one offseason. I don’t think we’ll see 100% “Reggie guys” until 2014 when we have some big contracts coming off the books, some cash to use for free agents & a full aresenal of draft picks at his disposal

  1673. Method To My Madness Says:

    1658.Silverandblack666 Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 10:42 am
    “Wow, that is a lot of people who practice incest…”

    LMFAO good one!

    ********

    Schit what u talkin bout..i be tellin my mam djsullifresh be dj’ing and packin why u hatin mama?

  1674. TxRaider210 Says:

    I will not be participating in mandatory health care, or any Orwellian type schit this guy passes. Welcome to a facist dictatorship, that has been long in the making.

  1675. RaiderRockstar Says:

    @ROG

    whats up, fellow Davis bootlicker?

  1676. Method To My Madness Says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LFGYX8NR3I

    Look at MR get down…go white boy go white boy

  1677. Thec Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 10:26 am
    1621.Sullivan44 Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 10:23 am
    Like I said, Brien. Being a political conservative and someone who blindly followed Al Davis, it’s no wonder you’re such a pleasant person.

    ***************

    Manhattan keeps makin it
    Brooklyn keeps on takin it
    Bronx keeps creatin it
    And Sac keeps on fakin it

    ++++++++++

    hahahahahha…

    BDP Blast from the past…ROFLMAO…

  1678. RaiderRockstar Says:

    new post!!

  1679. Sullivan44 Says:

    Tx, if you have a job, it will be required for your employer to provide health care. I suppose you could decline it. You’ll change your mind when you or someone in your family needs medical attention. Reality tends to catch up with idealists like you.

  1680. alf_capone Says:

    Brooklyn keeps on takin it…………world wide we’re known for that

  1681. Raidernationdave Says:

    The word of today boys and girls is: Pootbutt.

  1682. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “politics suck. both parties are useless. they both are part of the get nothing done agenda because they care more about parties than our country. why fight about it?”

    Great point!!

    I have been saying this for so long and find it funny that most people just do not want to face the facts that both parties got us into this debt and government over regulation.

  1683. Raidernationdave Says:

    Most folks don’t realize they function within a “debt based” economy.

    ++++++++++++++++++++

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    June 28th, 2012 at 10:56 am

    Great point!!

    I have been saying this for so long and find it funny that most people just do not want to face the facts that both parties got us into this debt and government over regulation.

  1684. TxRaider210 Says:

    I’m not an idealist Sully, just know a corrupt govt. when I see one. Ever read Orwell’s 1984? k thanks

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