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Raiders live chat coming up Tuesday at noon

By Jon Becker
Saturday, June 30th, 2012 at 11:44 am in Oakland Raiders.

Steve Corkran will conduct another Raiders live chat on Tuesday, July 3 at noon PDT as he assesses the team before camp begins at the end of the month.

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  1. Raidernationdave Says:

    Woe. Scheisse. Things must really be bad when you advertise live chat 4 days in advance.

  2. Raidernationdave Says:

    2nd

  3. Raidernationdave Says:

    3rd

  4. Raidernationdave Says:

    4th

  5. Raidernationdave Says:

    5th

  6. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    HA HA KrappyRat posted at 2:20am last night

    Must’ve been his anniversary

  7. Raidernationdave Says:

    6th

  8. Raidernationdave Says:

    LMAO!

    ++++++++++++++

    The Beeech Dawg Says:
    June 30th, 2012 at 11:46 am

    HA HA KrappyRat posted at 2:20am last night

    Must’ve been his anniversary

  9. Raidernationdave Says:

    Whut up Beeechy?

  10. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    Yo Dave, sorry I jacked your blog countdown flow

    Just keeping it real, hooked up with this Rachel McAdam look alike last night but with a huge fake rack and a tramp stamp

    We got down all night long and my weiner is now looking like a Jimmy Dean hot link

    Gonna kick it old school in my home-studio and work on some dope raps today, you know how them playas play

    WIZZLE

  11. Raidernationdave Says:

    Yo da shiizle Beeechy, no worries! Hey, if that tramp said, “Eat at Joe’s” I’da moved on but hey, that’s just me.

  12. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    I did munch a little corn hole last night night, but that was after we watched Juwanna Mann

    Trust me brah, there’s not enough Chapstick in North America to fix these lips

  13. Plunketthead Says:

    The blog sinks to a new low.
    Becker for blog pimp!!

  14. Intrepid Says:

    Raidernationdave Says:
    June 30th, 2012 at 11:45 am

    Woe. Scheisse. Things must really be bad when you advertise live chat 4 days in advance.
    /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////I think our pleas were heard and Becker is trying to keep the posts to a manageable number. No more than 1500 would be nice. Thanks, Becker.

  15. Raidernationdave Says:

    I think the inmates are now running the asylum.

  16. DJ Johnny Says:

    1431.DJ Johnny Says:
    June 30th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
    1428.Raiders for life Says:
    June 30th, 2012 at 11:26 am
    I didn’t realize that Conroy Black runs a 4.3 40. Hope the dude is coachable, Raiders could use the help at CB.

    Is he on our team? Forgive my ignorance.

  17. DJ Johnny Says:

    10.The Beeech Dawg Says:
    June 30th, 2012 at 11:50 am
    Yo Dave, sorry I jacked your blog countdown flow

    Just keeping it real, hooked up with this Rachel McAdam look alike last night but with a huge fake rack and a tramp stamp

    We got down all night long and my weiner is now looking like a Jimmy Dean hot link

    Gonna kick it old school in my home-studio and work on some dope raps today, you know how them playas play

    WIZZLE

    I’m in good company then. Mine looks like a curly fry from Arby’s.

  18. Raidernationdave Says:

    2 sold before 1 o’clock on the last day of the month!
    How play’s is that?

  19. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Assess away Corkran!!

  20. alf_capone Says:

    Things must really be bad when you advertise live chat 4 days in advance.

    ——————————————————–

    thought that was kinda weird myself.

    Alf Gang or find your girlfriends number in your fathers phone

  21. DJ Johnny Says:

    I was watching tape of Miles Burris again and one thing I noticed that i didn’t the first time is how often guys that he hits..appear injured afterword.

    He looks like he gives that extra “jolt” when he hits guys.

    You see guys getting hit by him and then just lay there.

    Hope he does that to Peyton Manning. Ha.

  22. Seymour Bush Says:

    alf_capone Says:
    June 30th, 2012 at 12:56 pm

    Things must really be bad when you advertise live chat 4 days in advance.

    ——————————————————–

    thought that was kinda weird myself.
    =========================================

    Especially when idiots like Jamista Clown can’t even count to four.

  23. alf_capone Says:

    I was watching tape of Miles Burris again and one thing I noticed that i didn’t the first time is how often guys that he hits..appear injured afterword.

    ———————————————————

    just watched footage of him for the first time after reading ur post and he seems to be good at blitzing. i like

  24. DJ Johnny Says:

    It appears Conroy Black has got raw potential.

    Fast as heck.

    Coaching will be huuuge for the young UDFA’s and those “raw” players.

    Of course we’re not even sure he makes the final 53, but this kid is Al Davis style fast.

  25. DJ Johnny Says:

    23.alf_capone Says:
    June 30th, 2012 at 1:03 pm
    I was watching tape of Miles Burris again and one thing I noticed that i didn’t the first time is how often guys that he hits..appear injured afterword.

    ———————————————————

    just watched footage of him for the first time after reading ur post and he seems to be good at blitzing. i like

    I’m trying to contain my enthusiasm, and I know it’s a highlight reel but you see the plays he made against Denard Robinson of Mich.?…or his relentlessness?

    As I said, he seems to kind of lunge with a final punishing “force” right on contact.

    And the blitzing you mentioned.

  26. alf_capone Says:

    I was watching tape of Miles Burris again and one thing I noticed that i didn’t the first time is how often guys that he hits..appear injured afterword.

    ———————————————————

    just watched footage of him for the first time after reading ur post and he seems to be good at blitzing. i like

    ______________________________________

    one more thing. i love, love, love the highlight where he chased down denard robinson. speed. i love it

  27. alf_capone Says:

    hahaha yup sure did

  28. DJ Johnny Says:

    We were thinking same thing about Robinson at the same time. Ha.

  29. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    Yo DJ

    Been working on this new 2 Kewl 4 Skool jam about getting your package sunburned while doing homework by your girlfriend’s parent’s pool

    It’s called “Sunday Sun Tan”, I figure the endorsement $ will start rolling in once we get a meeting with Coppertone

    Darn I got another pimple, gotta clean my pores
    Ma – I’m going to Susie’s! It’s too hot to study indoors
    Whoa, step back, my girl’s gotta tight belly
    Time to ditch these trunks and study a little anatomy

    PMPP IN FULL EFFECT

  30. alf_capone Says:

    kinda like this guy we got from ga st. too. big guy with speed. still kinda hard to judge him tho with the talent he is facing in these highlights

    Alf Gang or smoke with amy winehouse

  31. Raiders for life Says:

    I’m trying to not get too excited about the rookies or UDFA’s. Last year my MUP pick was Stevie Brown and then he was released. Then I picked Jerome Boyd and he was a flop.
    I don’t want to jinx anyone this year but Burris looks like a fkn stud in those Youtube highlights.

  32. Thec Says:

    Burris > McCheese

  33. Raidernationdave Says:

    3 before 3!!!!

  34. DJ Johnny Says:

    29.The Beeech Dawg Says:
    June 30th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
    Yo DJ

    Been working on this new 2 Kewl 4 Skool jam about getting your package sunburned while doing homework by your girlfriend’s parent’s pool

    It’s called “Sunday Sun Tan”, I figure the endorsement $ will start rolling in once we get a meeting with Coppertone

    Darn I got another pimple, gotta clean my pores
    Ma – I’m going to Susie’s! It’s too hot to study indoors
    Whoa, step back, my girl’s gotta tight belly
    Time to ditch these trunks and study a little anatomy

    PMPP IN FULL EFFECT

    You’ve done it again.

    Music that speaks to the very heart of who we are as a nation.

    We all owe you a debt of gratitude.

  35. 8RaiderReign8 Says:

    Raidernationdave Says:
    June 30th, 2012 at 11:45 am
    Woe. Scheisse. Things must really be bad when you advertise live chat 4 days in advance.
    ___________________

    Pretty Much.

  36. CanuckRaider Says:

    Y’all be careful now…They’s a big ol’ gatah right unner that there porch…Someone call the nuisance guy.

  37. mr green Says:

    :mrgreen:
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    Code Black Ya’ll
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  38. 8RaiderReign8 Says:

    I’m looking forward to more open preseason practices now that we have a new regime and new owner

  39. mr green Says:

    :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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    man that hurt my eyes :???:

  40. mr green Says:

    stare at that for 30 minutes and tell me what you see

    :shock:

  41. mr green Says:

    i stare at it for 5 seconds and i get dizzy, wtf you talkin about :eek:

  42. mr green Says:

    :mrgreen:

    meet my two new friends ☺ ☻

  43. raiderfankirk Says:

    At plunk. Pretty sure it sunk with Masterbater and mr. Masterbater. Multiple personality disorder. LMFAO poor guys. Only here to aggravate and when they can’t. They talk to them selves. F’n LMFAO at these cheese diks

  44. raiderfankirk Says:

    Rfl, quit jinksing us. Two really bad picks. This years pick is a good one.

  45. mr green Says:

    RAIDAHS :mrgreen: OH YEAH

  46. raiderfankirk Says:

    Think I’d still like to have Stevie over Matt. Similar but Stevie has better tackling skills.

  47. raiderfankirk Says:

    Anyone know if Stevie still has a job?

  48. mr green Says:

    raiderfankirk Says:
    June 30th, 2012 at 4:18 pm
    At plunk. Pretty sure it sunk with Masterbater and mr. Masterbater. Multiple personality disorder. LMFAO poor guys. Only here to aggravate and when they can’t. They talk to them selves. F’n LMFAO at these cheese diks
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    Mr Green :mrgreen: is NOT Masterbater/MR. I trust you were not referring that comment to the happy nature of Mr Green :mrgreen: , as we do not talk filth (that is rampant in here) nor do we engage in the cat fights and name calling that pretty much rules the day in here. Mr Green :mrgreen: and all his friends are happy good natured people who can’t wait for Raidah football to begin and once that happens, we are making plans to head on out to Nawleens. Mr Green :mrgreen: is good everyday people.

    :mrgreen:

  49. raiderfankirk Says:

    Never said that.

  50. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Aldon Smith playing gangster on the other side of the bay.

    He will be a tragic tale of what could have been soon enough, as most people knew would ultimately happen to him when he came into the league.

  51. raiderfankirk Says:

    Understood and would love to see it that way. At the same time its hard to take anyone serious posting with green Smiley faces.

  52. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Backstageatapuppetshow Says:
    June 29th, 2012 at 9:50 pm
    Huff will get hurt or beat out by Giordano

    ***

    thoughts DAV ??

  53. raiderfankirk Says:

    Forgive my ignorance. Who is aldon Smith?

  54. RaiderRockstar Says:

    playing catch-up

    @Tx

    Ryan Grant sucks!

    he only had 2 TD’s in 14 games last year and they both against Oakland [not a big accomplishment]

    hasn’t rushed for over 100 yards in a game since like December of 2009. plus he overvalues himself, if he opted not to play for Detroit @ vet minimum this offseason

  55. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Getting to know Conroy Black

    BY ASHER MATHEWS | 04 MAY 2012

    http://tfdssports.com/2012-articles/may/getting-to-know-conroy-black.html

  56. mr green Says:

    raiderfankirk Says:
    June 30th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
    Understood and would love to see it that way. At the same time its hard to take anyone serious posting with green Smiley faces.
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    We cool. :cool: It’s all good :!:

  57. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Notes:
    The Jamaican also lettered in track as a Florida prep. Headed to Fullerton (Calif.) College for two years, where he was the team captain in 2008 and posted 20 tackles, one pass breakup and one interception with one tackle for loss and a blocked kick in eight games. Was an all-conference selection in track after running the 100 meters in 10.3 seconds and was clocked at 20.98 seconds in the 200 meters. Signed with Utah and redshirted in ’09. Was the primary nickel back in ’10 when he played all 13 games (one start) and registered 19-3-1 with one tackle for loss and one sack. Started 12-of-13 games played in ‘11 and logged 39-4-4 in ‘11. Had a 67-yard interception return for a score against UCLA.

    Summary:
    A raw, developmental man-cover corner, Black looks the part with a lean, athletic build and long arms combined with big-time track speed (has run the 100 meters in 10.3 seconds). Is relatively inexperienced and positional instincts and playmaking ability do not run parallel with his athletic ability, but has moldable tools and upside. Needs to get stronger.

    http://www.profootballweekly.com/prospects/player/conroy-black-9/

  58. mr green Says:

    raiderfankirk Says:
    June 30th, 2012 at 4:44 pm
    Forgive my ignorance. Who is aldon Smith?
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    http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8117350/san-francisco-49ers-aldon-smith-suffers-minor-injuries-stab-wounds-says-report

  59. RaiderRockstar Says:

    COLLEGE: Played two years at Utah after transferring from Fullerton College…Played in 26 career games at Utah with 13 starts…Totaled 58 tackles, five interceptions, seven passes defensed and one sack…Earned honorable mention all‐Pac‐12 honors as a senior…Started all 13 games, recording four interceptions…Interception total tied for most in the conference and tied for 22nd in the nation…Also tied for fourth in the conference and 38th nationally in interceptions per game with .31…Posted 39 tackles and four passes defensed…Named National Defensive Player of the Week by the College Football Performance Awards after recording two interceptions including returned 67-yards touchdown against UCLA…Played in all 13 games as a redshirt junior…Posted 19 tackles, one sack, one interception and three passes defensed…Served as team captain at Fullerton College…Posted 17 solo tackles…Returned an interception for a touchdown and had three passes defensed in 2008…Also an all‐conference selection in track, competing in the 100m and 200m…Studied human development and family studies.

    PERSONAL: Attended Everglades (Miramar, Fla.) High School…Named second team all‐state by the Sun-Sentinel and the Miami Herald…Recorded 13 interceptions in three years including five in both his sophomore and junior seasons…Helped Everglades win the 6A District II championship in 2005…Also lettered in track.

    http://www.raiders.com/team/roster/Conroy-Black/4f2134b0-6f04-4c53-9470-3be973a2ce35

  60. raiderfankirk Says:

    Cool. Someone, could’a should’a would’a?

  61. raiderfankirk Says:

    Worried about oline more than anything. I hope changing oline and scheme when it wasn’t broke worries me?

  62. raiderfankirk Says:

    * drunk you know what I mean.

  63. raiderfankirk Says:

    Dam. Quite place without the trolls. Hmmmmmmm.

  64. mr green Says:

    raiderfankirk Says:
    June 30th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
    Dam. Quite place without the trolls. Hmmmmmmm.
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    Maybe me and all my smiley friends will drop in later when the party gets roasting and we will liven this place up. But the guests won’t arrive for another couple of hours. We got shrimp and lobster, steak and steak fries. We are going to eat well tonight, and talk of making plans for Nawleens.

    :mrgreen:

  65. mr green Says:

    In the meantime, please enjoy this website.

    http://www.trolls.com

  66. Raidernationdave Says:

    Dam(n). Qui(e)t place without the trolls. Hmmmmmmm.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    raiderfankirk Says:
    June 30th, 2012 at 5:34 pm

    Dam. Quite place without the trolls. Hmmmmmmm.

  67. Oakland Raiders Links That You’ll Want To See June 30, 2012 | Raiders Central | Oakland Raiders Blog Says:

    [...] Raiders live chat coming up Tuesday at noon Steve Corkran will conduct another Raiders live chat on Tuesday, July 3 at noon PDT as he assesses the team before camp begins at the end of the month…. [...]

  68. Hardline Says:

    “San Francisco 49ers linebacker Aldon Smith is recovering from minor injuries suffered when he was stabbed on Friday night.”

    What will it take for blacks and black athletes to recognise that when too many mass together, someone will be killed or injured ??

    Why the madness, and why do black athletes put themselves at risk by their own people and culture?

  69. RaiderRockstar Says:

    LA Chargers?

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/06/30/if-l-a-move-will-happen-in-2013-chargers-are-the-most-likely-to-go/

    all you Laker fans, please feel free to jump ship!!

  70. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Report: Heat to make very hard push to get Ray Allen

    Suns & Celtics want him, too.

    I’ll pass. Hope he demands more than $3 mil and the Heat tell him to kick rocks!!

  71. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Dwight Howard to Houston!

    Orlando gets Luis Scola, Kyle Lowry and Kevin Martin

    sweet deal. Congrats DeuceDeuce

  72. Raidernationdave Says:

    No matter where they play the Chargers will always suck.

    ++++++++++++++++

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 30th, 2012 at 7:19 pm

    LA Chargers?

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/06/30/if-l-a-move-will-happen-in-2013-chargers-are-the-most-likely-to-go/

    all you Laker fans, please feel free to jump ship!!

  73. Raidernationdave Says:

    Hat trick bonus today beyotches!

    With the weekend bonus and HT bonus along with my commissions it’s been a great weekend so far.

  74. mr green Says:

    :mrgreen: viva la Raidahs

  75. raiderfankirk Says:

    Thanks for confirming shrimp cocktails. LMFAO posser.

  76. raiderfankirk Says:

    And then there were people whom talk raider ball. Which you are incapableLllmf

  77. raiderfankirk Says:

    LMFAO

  78. raiderfankirk Says:

    Watching Warren sapp talk about eagles being built on speed and praising, them. Al paid his ass. Loyalty is dead.

  79. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    YO PM PARTY PATROL IN FULL EFFECT

    The Beeech Dawg here, checking in after getting my pubes washed, styled and professionally gelled for 2K4S rehearsal tomorrow

    Yo, we’ve been working hard on our pube ‘dos, pretty sure we can put One Direction to shame, word

    Dang, Dodgers blanked again. What up with that?

    Lake show waiting until midnight to start the free agent onslaught. Yo, that Devin Eubanks signing is going to be straight up HUGE

    FIZZLE FRESH

  80. Dakota Says:

    Go laaaaaakers!

  81. Dakota Says:

    Dwight Howard claiming The magic blackmailed him into picking up his option last year by threatening to send him to the lakers.

    The dude is clearly a retard.

  82. Dakota Says:

    Warriors just agreed to a 8 year $120 million dollar deal with Greg oden. He will save u!

  83. KoolKell Says:

    I met Bubba Paris today at the Alameda County Fair.

  84. Raidernationdave Says:

    I’ll leave it to others to drive in the winning runs….

    +++++++++++++++

    KoolKell Says:
    June 30th, 2012 at 9:19 pm

    I met Bubba Paris today at the Alameda County Fair.

  85. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    Bubba Paris was like, “Why did the peanut vendor try to tell me about his trip to Copenhagen?”

  86. Raidernationdave Says:

    LMFAO!!!!!!

    +++++++++++++++++++

    The Beeech Dawg Says:
    June 30th, 2012 at 9:24 pm

    Bubba Paris was like, “Why did the peanut vendor try to tell me about his trip to Copenhagen?”

  87. Raidernationdave Says:

    I wonder if Bubba offered a reach around.

  88. KoolKell Says:

    He asked me if I was a 49er fan, I said no, Raider fan. he was done with me. Lol.

  89. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    June 30th, 2012 at 9:28 pm

    He asked me if I was a 49er fan, I said no, Raider fan. he was done with me. Lol.

    ————————-

    You should’ve called him a pootbutt. He would’ve found you irresistable

  90. KoolKell Says:

    Dumb Beech, he’s not a Pootbutt, you are though. You must be awfully lonely.

  91. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    Krappy I bet Bubba would’ve fallen in love with you if you had directed him to a few of your favorite links

  92. KoolKell Says:

    Dumb Beech, all alone tonite? Lol.

  93. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    Krappy I spent all last night making passionate love to a sensual stripper

    Gotta give my dode a rest, mackin’ on some sour cream n onion Pringles and checking out BigFoot on SYFY

    Did Bubba think it was weird that you pitched a tent when you were talking to him?

  94. KoolKell Says:

    The Beeech Dawg Says:
    June 30th, 2012 at 9:50 pm

    Krappy I spent all last night making passionate love to a sensual stripper
    ————————
    Sure, in your troll dreams. Too funny

    Get a life dude.

  95. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    Krappy don’t be so jealous. There’s gotta be an upside to making love to your wife & her bowl cut for the last 50 years

    I just can’t think of one, holla

  96. KoolKell Says:

    Jealous???? Not hardly. Get a life you pathetic thing.

  97. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    Ha, don’t get so worked up, Krapster.

    You gotta learn how to party on Sat nights instead of stalking retired players at amusement parks

    Kinda creepy, old troll. Just keeping it real.

  98. KoolKell Says:

    Oh yeah, I went to the fair to stalk Bubba Smith.

    Get a life you pathetic thing.

  99. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    Bigfoot is hella sweet

    I’d still let Sherilyn Fenn ride the world famous Beeech Lawg, but homegirl needs to drop a few lbs

    And get a new agent, holla

    She’s definitely not representin’ in those mom jeans

  100. Missus Beeechams Girlfriend Says:

    Just want to let you dudes know I too can roll a duece like never before. 32 inches 9 and a half pounds, dropped center mark on the kitchen table while hangin from the light. Its a thing of wonder. Missus B taught me we aint got nothing to hide.

  101. Raidernationdave Says:

    I just re-read this post again. Classic Top 10 in my book.

    ++++++++++++++++++

    Intrepid Says:
    June 30th, 2012 at 12:09 pm

    Raidernationdave Says:
    June 30th, 2012 at 11:45 am

    Woe. Scheisse. Things must really be bad when you advertise live chat 4 days in advance.
    /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////I think our pleas were heard and Becker is trying to keep the posts to a manageable number. No more than 1500 would be nice. Thanks, Becker.

  102. Raidernationdave Says:

    Beechy…..the bat was sizzlin’ again tonight Holmes! Simply blazin’! Too Playa’!

    Kooky Kell’s pitching staff kept lobbin’ dem dere tater’s at ya & ya kept bustin’ dem outta da park. He didn’t even make one & a third.

    I’ll betcha dollars to donuts Mr. and Mrs. Kooky Kell have the same bowl cut.

    Holla.

  103. Raidernationdave Says:

    I’ve seen a baby being born and quite frankly I have no desire to see it again. Ever.

  104. Raidernationdave Says:

    After a hard day of selling three brand spanking new vehicles a man’s gotta unwind a little – a little green bud, a little UFO crankin’on Rhapsody, some Hanger 24 Chocolate Porter. Aaaah! Good stuff!

    The hoe’s wanted to hang but I had to say no. Like all good prize fighters gotta have that discipline to say no right before a big fight. Gotta rest up for tomorrow. I gotta big day.

    Drop one shiny piece of hardware and the bone is half a geezie. Two? seven-fitty.

  105. DJ Johnny Says:

    UFO?

    I played “Lights out” today.

    It was a request.

    They’re on tour in Europe right now..just wrapped up a stint on the ‘Monsters of Rock’ Cruise.

  106. DJ Johnny Says:

    dave,

    You could always use the old popsicle and rubberband trick.

  107. Raidernationdave Says:

    So what’s the topic of this post? Oh yeah, an “upcoming chat” with Stevie.

    So are you guys excited about the upcoming chat with Stevie? I love talking Raider football with the plethora of interesting posts I find at this particular stop in cyber-space.

    Spain.

    Holla.

  108. Raidernationdave Says:

    Sweet. I’m total 70’s obscure-ish rock bands. I think I was listening to Cheap Trick looooooong before anyone knew about them.

  109. DJ Johnny Says:

    Cool. Good music is good music no matter what era, although stuff from the 60’s sounds too tinny for my tastes.

  110. DJ Johnny Says:

    Barring any last minute Cedric Benson signing, the Raiders kind of are what they are with who they’ve got.

    I’m still mad about the defense bending over and taking it up the keyster like they did against SD.

    Just ONE DAMN STOP when SD was back on their half yd. line and Palmer engineers a final TD drive on a short field and we’re talking about how we lost a close one to New England in the 2nd rd.

    It irritates me to even see Seymour smiling in the interview he did on Raiders.com and acting cocky with that host.

    Somebody…ANYBODY..needed to step up and say “Not today beyotches”..”Not in our house with the division on the line”.

    But no. Instead they let Mike freaking Tolbert run for 42 yds. and Rivers do whatever the he!! he wanted.

    I’m still smarting over all that and it worries me that most of the guys that were responsible are still gonna be there this yr.

    Maybe i’ll get over it someday…like when they finally figure out how to make a stop in clutch time.

  111. DJ Johnny Says:

    New guys like Bartell and Spencer and maybe even Burris will make things different I hope. And Schaughnessy of course. And the new DC and HC.

    I do have hope.

  112. Raidernationdave Says:

    Got Jaco Pastorius going on Rhapsody to mello me out…an “ear massage” if you will.

    I’m in the zone.

    Thinkin’ two baby!

  113. DJ Johnny Says:

    People say “what do u expect Seymour to say? U expect him to cry about last yr. and shoot himself”?

    No, but i wouldn’t mind hearing “What happened last yr. especially in that last game was inexcusable. That schytt will NOT happen again”.

    Okay. Vent over.

  114. Raidernationdave Says:

    DJJ….dude, let’s move forward! Nothing about last year, or for that matter the last 50 years, makes any difference right now. I’m dying to see the Silver & Black hoist the Lombardi a couple two, three, fourr more times before I depart but we gotta be patient and be ready to go one step at a time.

    In RMac we trust has got to be in our minds. Let’s support DA and see what he can do before we sch8tt on ourselves. Dude may be the next fckn Harbaugh. We don’t know but…..

    Let’s move forward!

  115. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    The Dodgers are giving up a prime, ranked, pitching prospect in Gould just to get an overweight, 36-year-old hitter in Lee.

    He’s hitting .287 now but wait til he gets to L.A.

    The Gaylos are making the same mistake that the Giants did last year.

  116. RaiderSam Says:

    LOL, now San Diego is the likely candidate to move to L.A.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/06/30/if-l-a-move-will-happen-in-2013-chargers-are-the-most-likely-to-go/

  117. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Bubba’s ex-wife lived right next door to one my best friends in high school out in Tracy.

    Wayne (who played two years at Air Force) was in my age group, and I watched Courtney and David grow up before they moved to Modesto.

  118. Just Fire Baby Says:

    England,

    The Dodgers are desperate for a bat, being that I think they were outscored by Italy this week.

  119. Just Fire Baby Says:

    This week Italy has scored two goals in one game and the Dodgers have scored 2 runs in 6 games, lol.

    That is pretty bad.

  120. TxRaider210 Says:

    JFB
    The Euro finals are today right?

  121. Plunketthead Says:

    Yes they are and that is why the blog is closed for all chat except soccer chat.

    I think I will root for the worlds greatest floppers. I dont like them and I dont like that klingon but I admire their hustle and tenacity, something the wankers dont have.

    Floppers 5
    Sangria 1

  122. Plunketthead Says:

    If the wankers had half the heart of italy players they would have beat the floppers the other day

  123. Plunketthead Says:

    What happened to the group of death? They must have all died.

  124. TxRaider210 Says:

    Yeah Plunk I turned on the game last week..first one I watched in years, and decided to pull for the under-dog. We all saw how that went and I proved to myself I still don’t know crap about futbol.lol

  125. Just Fire Baby Says:

    What happened to the group of death? They must have all died.

    **************************

    LOL!!!

  126. Raidernationdave Says:

    Whut up Beyotches!

    Called from the start. Spain Beyotches!

  127. Plunketthead Says:

    Mario Balotelli = Terrell Owens
    look for him to defeat the worlds greatest gold thieves all by himself as long as his meds are working today

  128. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Plunkethead..

    yeah, Italya (pun intended with superzkitzomario looks strong, for the first time i many years they are attacking and not just waiting..

    I still root for spain though, even though their game is getting a bit too conservative.

    anyhoo, great final.

  129. La Milicia Negra Says:

    La Milicia Negra Says:
    July 1st, 2012 at 8:36 am

    Plunkethead..

    yeah, Italya (pun intended) with superzkitzomario looks strong, for the first time i many years they are attacking and not just waiting..

    I still root for spain though, even though their game is getting a bit too conservative.

    anyhoo, great final.

    even =)

  130. Raider O Says:

    Plunketthead Says:
    July 1st, 2012 at 7:52 am
    What happened to the group of death? They must have all died.
    $$$$$$$$$$$
    LMAO soccer ambassador!

  131. cfrylopez Says:

    Keep the Raiders in Oakland! SAVE OAKLAND SPORTS!

    http://www.facebook.com/pages/Save-Oakland-Sports/313792838683682

    ttp://saveoaklandsports.org/

  132. cfrylopez Says:

    Save Oakland Sports
    http://saveoaklandsports.org/

  133. Raider O Says:

    Oleeeeee
    Ole
    Ole
    Oleeee
    Olee
    Ole

    ITALYA (real word for you ignorant monkeys that don’t know any better).

  134. Dakota Says:

    Big day! Start of free agency! NHL free agency! Come to la Zach!

  135. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Was anyone else shocked that Balotelli is Sicilian?

    I wasn’t, lol.

    I think Palermo is geographically closer to Sudan than Tuscany.

  136. Raider O Says:

    Arabs ruled that area for a few centuries.

    Btw JFB, are you talking about Algeria or Tunisia? Sudan is south of Egypt.

  137. Raidernationdave Says:

    Jaws has Tony Romo as his 10th rated QB.

    Jaws is delusional.

  138. Raider O Says:

    You People…..

  139. Raidernationdave Says:

    You tool! Hahaha!

    ++++++++++++++++

    Raider O Says:
    July 1st, 2012 at 9:08 am

    Oleeeeee
    Ole
    Ole
    Oleeee
    Olee
    Ole

    ITALYA (real word for you ignorant monkeys that don’t know any better).

  140. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I am saying from the island of the Ginzo’s, they are closer to desert Africans than Italian countryside folk.

  141. Raider O Says:

    LOL Dave.

  142. CanuckRaider Says:

    I did find one aspect of Euro 2012 interesting…The lovely Ukrainian ladies in the stands at the England/Ukraine game…The rest of it is a great cure for insomnia.

  143. CanuckRaider Says:

    The Beeech Dawg sure made mincemeat of Kell on that Bubba Paris thing last night…When will Kooky learn?…LMAO.

  144. Raider O Says:

    Mario’s parents are from Ghana!
    I didn’t know north africa (Tunisia, Algeria, Egypt) was considered a desert.

  145. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Raidernationdave Says:
    July 1st, 2012 at 9:26 am

    You tool! Hahaha!

    ++++++++++++++++

    Raider O Says:
    July 1st, 2012 at 9:08 am

    Oleeeeee
    Ole
    Ole
    Oleeee
    Olee
    Ole

    ITALYA (real word for you ignorant monkeys that don’t know any better).
    _______________________________________________________

    yeah great job, a spanish chant for italy, spelled in turkish..

    had the the referees been turks, it would actually had been rather profound…

  146. CanuckRaider Says:

    Time to go clean the BBQ grill…Canada Day today…Fridge is stocked and tree is rolled…Have a great one Nation.

  147. Raider O Says:

    Maybe you were thinking of Libya?

  148. Raidernationdave Says:

    Just for that I’ll puff a few BH’s after work in Canada’s honor Canuck!

  149. Raider O Says:

    The bitter ignorant loser doesn’t learn!

    LOL

  150. Raider O Says:

    So you admit you are ignorant and that Italya is a real
    Word?
    Tool!
    LOL

  151. Raider O Says:

    Did you enjoy that video of Italians chanting OLE?
    Tool!!

    What did you say? They are not real Italians?
    You know they didn’t come from Italy?
    Tool!

  152. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I don’t think you are getting it.

    Sicily is a LOOOOOOONG ways away from the Italian countryside, and it don’t matter if it is Northern Africa or Sudan or the freaking Sahara desert, it is roughly the same geographic distance to Tuscany.

  153. La Milicia Negra Says:

    raider o..

    have admitted that all the time, but in greek and turkish, and I pointed out it would be rather stupid to NOT use names for a certain country in its native tongue or english..

    if you insist to use the turkish way to write it, why dont you write everything in turkish?

    and to use a spanish chant for a country with strong feelings against spain is kinda weird…

    but of course you can make a paella in italy, but to call it an italian dish is kinda stretch..

    so the tool is clearly you..

  154. Raider O Says:

    I don’t think you own a world globe? lol

  155. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Raider O Says:
    July 1st, 2012 at 9:42 am

    Did you enjoy that video of Italians chanting OLE?
    Tool!!

    What did you say? They are not real Italians?
    You know they didn’t come from Italy?
    Tool!
    _________________________________________________________

    it was canadians…

  156. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Raider O Says:
    July 1st, 2012 at 9:39 am

    The bitter ignorant loser doesn’t learn!

    LOL
    _______________________________________________________

    when you point more fingers point back at your self..

  157. Plunketthead Says:

    Those humans in that part of the world have been enslaving and loving and fighting and trading for a few thousand years. I am suprised theres any white folks left

  158. Raider O Says:

    LMN,

    I’m done with you bro. God knows I tried. I told you from exp and you didn’t believe me, so I posted a link showing Italians doing it, and now you are saying they were not real Italians.

  159. Raider O Says:

    LMN,

    “When you point 1 finger, 3 point back at you”

    You are welcome.

  160. Just Fire Baby Says:

    According to the Google, Sicily to Tuscany is 866 miles, and the Southern point of Sicily to Sudan is 1,043 miles.

    So take your World Map and shove it!!!!

    But I know, you lived there 25 years ago so you know better right?

  161. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Raider O Says:
    July 1st, 2012 at 9:52 am

    LMN,

    I’m done with you bro. God knows I tried. I told you from exp and you didn’t believe me, so I posted a link showing Italians doing it, and now you are saying they were not real Italians.
    ________________________________________________________

    well, when you some day go to italy, I suggest you chant Olé, lets see how that works out =)

  162. La Milicia Negra Says:

    JFB…

    Raider Oh-no knows better all the time =)

  163. Raider O Says:

    You do realize that 866 < 1043, correct?

  164. Just Fire Baby Says:

    It is pretty well known that Sicily is about as close to African desert areas, be it Northen African or whatever you call it, than it is to the heart of Italy.

    And Northern Italy like Milan and stuff? Forget about it, Sudan is DEFINITELY closer.

  165. Raider O Says:

    Btw, I never lived in Africa. Jordan is in Asia.

  166. Just Fire Baby Says:

    150 miles???

    LOL…I said roughly closer. What is that off by 15% of the total distance?

  167. Raider O Says:

    LMAO @ the bitter ignorant loser.
    You are so bitter, it’s funny.

  168. Raider O Says:

    Chico,

    LOL
    I like messing with you.

  169. Just Fire Baby Says:

    No worries, just wanted to get a laugh in at the expense of my Sicilians co-horts.

    My father-in-law is part Sicilian and so is my wife (tiny bit Sicilian and Ukranian), so I love bagging on them too.

  170. Raider O Says:

    LMN,

    You lost and Italya can win it all.
    Get over it!

  171. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Romo as the 10th ranked QB is pretty fair and probably spot-on, IMO.

    If it is too high, it is only by a few spots.

    The 10th ranked QB is not even a Pro Bowl QB.

  172. Mr Green Says:

    Lean On Me

    Sometimes in our lives, we all have pain, we all have sorrow.
    But if we are wise, we know that there’s always tomorrow.
    Lean on me, when you’re not strong and I’ll be your friend.
    I’ll help you carry on, for it won’t be long ’til I’m gonna need somebody to lean on.

    Please swallow your pride, if i have things you need to borrow.
    For no one can fill those of your needs that you won’t let show.

    You just call on me brother when you need a hand.
    We all need somebody to lean on.
    I just might have a problem that you’ll understand.
    We all need somebody to lean on.

    Lean on me when you’re not strong, and I’ll be your friend.
    I’ll help you carry on, for it won’t be long ’til I’m gonna’ need somebody to lean on.

    You just call on me brother,hey, if you need a friend.
    We all need somebody to lean on.
    I just might have a problem that you’ll understand.
    We all need somebody to lean on.x2
    Lean on me!
    If there is a load you have to bear that you can’t carry.
    I’m right up the road, I’ll share your load if you just call me.
    call me.(call me)
    call me
    Call me (when you need a friend)
    Call me
    call me
    call me
    call me
    it won’t be long till i am gonna need somebody to lean on lean on lean on lean on
    lean lean on me
    i am gonna need somebody lean on
    i am gonna need somebody to lean on lean on

    *Bill Withers

    People, no more bickering and cat fighting. We all need to just get along. We all Raidah fans first and foremost. Lookin forward to the day when the Kool can sit with the Dawg at the dinner table and share some apple pie for dessert, and talk about television shows and house cleaning products. Com’on now people.

    :mrgreen:

  173. Raider O Says:

    Vegas,

    His parents are from Ghana.
    You I Talians are funny. You remind me of arabs without the drinking and sex.

  174. La Milicia Negra Says:

    If italy wins like they did over germany, they will be the rightful winners..

  175. Raider O Says:

    I think Romo is underrated.
    He can throw, he can run, and he has good pocket awareness.

  176. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Romo is the most overrated QB besides Tebow..

    He’ll never win a SB

  177. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Romo has just fell apart in the postseason at times.

    As far as a regular season QB, he was probably in the 6-8th range in all honesty.

  178. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Tony Romo has the 2nd highest regular season QB rating IN NFL HISTORY.

    NO matter how you slice that, it is pretty impressive.

  179. Raider O Says:

    La Milicia Negra Says:
    July 1st, 2012 at 10:16 am
    Romo is the most overrated QB besides Tebow..

    He’ll never win a SB
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    How do you know? I watch a lot of football (250 games/ year NFL, College, UFL, CFL, Arena, and HS) and I’m telling you Romo is underrated.
    LOL.

  180. La Milicia Negra Says:

    JFB..

    yeah, great numbers, but he will never win a SB, ha cant handle the pressure..

  181. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Raider O Says:
    July 1st, 2012 at 10:20 am

    La Milicia Negra Says:
    July 1st, 2012 at 10:16 am
    Romo is the most overrated QB besides Tebow..

    He’ll never win a SB
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    How do you know?
    ___________________________________________________

    gut feeling, now that Ryan is D-coord, the D will look good and fail as well..

    if Romo ever iwns a SB I will be the first to say sorry for my doubts…

  182. Just Fire Baby Says:

    A lot of guys won’t win the Super Bowl who are probably considered top 10 QB’s.

    I don’t think you can be a top 5 QB and not have a ring, but the 8th,9th,10th, 11th..etc, QB’s probably ALL don’t have rings currently or possess much hope to win one in the future.

  183. La Milicia Negra Says:

    JFB..

    true.. but Romo, sanchez and others I just dont feel the fuzz. but maybe its more feelings than sports..

  184. Plunketthead Says:

    174.La Milicia Negra Says:
    July 1st, 2012 at 10:12 am
    If italy wins like they did over germany, they will be the rightful winners..
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    What if they win unlike they did against the huns?
    You make some incrediably stupid comments for an enlightened Dane

  185. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Sanchez isn’t even in the same planet as Romo.

    Romo has won all kinds of games where he was the best player on the field that day. Probably 20-30 of them, including a playoff game.

    Sanchez HAS NEVER been the best player on the field for even a half of football, better yet 20 something games.

  186. Raider O Says:

    LMN,

    What about Dan Marino? Was he overrated too?
    Not trying to compare Romo to Marino, but making a point about winning a SB.

  187. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I will give credit to Sanchez, in that he may have played his best ball in some of those playoff wins, but he is often the ball and chain for those Jets teams, for weeks on end.

  188. Raider O Says:

    Wow!
    Sanchez and Romo?

    If the jets had Romo, I’m sure they would have a ring by now.

  189. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Not sure why people give Marino such a pass.

    Go look at his playoff game numbers, he had some awful stinkers, and some of them at home.

  190. Plunketthead Says:

    Theres another great match today we have not discussed

    The return of the Tigger

    He will be wearing red and going for blood

  191. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Plunketthead Says:
    July 1st, 2012 at 10:28 am

    174.La Milicia Negra Says:
    July 1st, 2012 at 10:12 am
    If italy wins like they did over germany, they will be the rightful winners..
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    What if they win unlike they did against the huns?
    You make some incrediably stupid comments for an enlightened Dane
    _______________________________________________________

    if they win on a defensive gameplan that they used have since the 60 adn forward and win, I will be upset.

    if their gameplan is offensive like its been the last few games, I will celebrate their win.

    that said I still root for spain..

  192. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Raider O Says:
    July 1st, 2012 at 10:34 am

    Wow!
    Sanchez and Romo?

    If the jets had Romo, I’m sure they would have a ring by now.
    _________________________________________________________

    he cant win the big games, so I dont think so..

  193. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Since it isn’t a major, Tiger will probably be in the thick of things.

    He just isn’t good enough to win any Majors but the Masters moving forward.

    I give him one more Masters, maybe a British (or a runner-up out there), and mostly comical weekends at the Open like a few weeks ago.

  194. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    yawn

  195. La Milicia Negra Says:

    on another note, third time a Dane has been in the polka-dotted tricot..

  196. Raider O Says:

    Italya will always play more defense and use counter attack to score their goals. Last game Mario was on fire. He scored both goals.

  197. Raidernationdave Says:

    Spain beyotches! Spain!

  198. Plunketthead Says:

    Thats what I hope to view today is comical Tigger. Maybe he will toss a club in a lake. I love when they do that

  199. Raider O Says:

    Btw LMN, the teams with Roberto Baggio played like they did against Germany.

  200. Raider O Says:

    Italya beyotches! Italya!

  201. Plunketthead Says:

    Too Bad Lance is not riding this year. The TDF was a lot more watchable when he was kicking butt and taking names.

    No polka dots for Lance. Man wears the winners jersey

  202. Raidernationdave Says:

    It should be a great game. Spain’s speed and finese vs, Italy’s flops. Epic.

    Spain in PK’s

  203. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Baggio was pure Gold!

    well im out, have nice game =)

  204. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Plunketthead Says:
    July 1st, 2012 at 11:00 am

    Too Bad Lance is not riding this year. The TDF was a lot more watchable when he was kicking butt and taking names.

    No polka dots for Lance. Man wears the winners jersey
    ________________________________________________________

    yeah it was fun when Mr Doping was cheating his way to the yellow!

  205. Plunketthead Says:

    So what about Spain’s game makes it so much better that they have won three straight of these Euro cups.

    Sounds like they spend a lot of time playing together. More so then the other teams.

    Maybe the other team players are too busy playing for Euro notes and making commercials and modeling the latest gaywear

  206. Plunketthead Says:

    Mister doping?
    How dare you, numbnuts.
    The man was tested more times then any human on the face of the earth.

    You Euros are just mad because an American came to your house and made love to your daughters and wiped his wang on your drapes while making your wives run up your credit cards buying toys for Lance

  207. Buckeyeraider Says:

    test

  208. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Buckeye!!!

    Told you Matt Latos is a good power arm, with serious downward action on his ball.

    We can’t hit that guy!!!!

  209. Raider O Says:

    Spain has a great league and a good farm team system. They also have great talent.

  210. Raider O Says:

    Buckeye brother,

    How are you? I hope all is well with you and yours.

  211. Buckeyeraider Says:

    G’mornin fellas…Vegas, Raider O

    Been having some computer issues. password wouldn’t work, had to get a new one and it still keeps booting me off. Aggravating as hell.

    Don’t care much for soccer, so….

    Vegas, How ’bout Mat Latos and those F’n Reds? lol.

    Post season preview I hope. SI predicted Cincy and SF to win their div, and meet in 2nd rd.

    BSPN the Rag predicted both to finish 2nd and miss the playoffs. Both wildcards from the NL East. Go figure

    Typical BSPN east coast bias. I don’t think they realize in Bristol that baseball is played west of the Bronx.

    Nine out of ten nat’l broadcast involves the Yankees. I understand TV ratings and market size, but damn..it gets old. Especially now that I can’t listen to my boys on the radio.

  212. Raider O Says:

    LOL soccer ambassador.

  213. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Both the Reds and Giants will win the division, IMO.

    Reds will have a tougher road to hoe, and I think the Pirates can compete, especially if the pick up a bat at the trade deadline.

    The Dodgers lineup these days makes the 2007 Pirates look like the ‘27 Yankee’s. They’ve scored 2 runs ALL WEEK!!!!

    I hope we don’t meet in the first round, I would be happy to let you guys and the Nats beat each other up in the first round, lol.

  214. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Bummer about Joey Votto getting “nicked” yesterday. I was suprised to see it was a knee issue, seemed like his back locked up on the swing before the injury.

    I get the MLB extra innings package, and Joey Votto is one of those guys that you keep an eye on his game, just so you can tune in when he hits.

    Not too many of those dudes in the league. Votto, Bryce Harper, Joey Bats (Bautista), Josh Hamilton, this Trout kid is in the mix now.

  215. Plunketthead Says:

    I would love to see some new blood in the playoffs like the Pirates and the Nats

  216. Plunketthead Says:

    firebaby
    I think you are right about the Giants not worrying about the Dodgers but the Dbacks might sneak up on the league like they did last year.

    That dancing babe was smoking
    Dude has a flare in the street. That would get you sent right to the local jail here in America

  217. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Pirates are a damn good ball club that nobody is paying attention to. Can pitch, play defense, run, etc. Just a little light at the bottom of that lineup.

    McCutcheon is a top 15 position player in the game, and if this Alvarez kid can start banging home runs like they expected when they drafted him #2 overall or whatever, they can really cause teams some fits.

  218. Just Fire Baby Says:

    D’Backs are making a run, and we haven’t won a game in AZ in like our last 10 tries.

    I can certainly see them passing the Dodgers here shortly.

  219. Plunketthead Says:

    Whats the story behind having kids come out for the intros?

  220. alf_capone Says:

    McCutcheon is a top 15 position player in the game

    ———————————————————

    id even go as high as top 5. hes still no curtis granderson tho.

    Alf Gang or sleep with lebron james mom

  221. Plunketthead Says:

    That fella in the stands looks just like Mario

  222. Just Fire Baby Says:

    3 Giants starting the All-Star game BTW.

    Not sure how Panda made it over David Wright, but I’ll take it!!

  223. mcthompso Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    July 1st, 2012 at 11:31 am
    Bummer about Joey Votto getting “nicked” yesterday. I was suprised to see it was a knee issue, seemed like his back locked up on the swing before the injury.

    I get the MLB extra innings package, and Joey Votto is one of those guys that you keep an eye on his game, just so you can tune in when he hits.

    Not too many of those dudes in the league. Votto, Bryce Harper, Joey Bats (Bautista), Josh Hamilton, this Trout kid is in the mix now

    ———————————————–

    If Votto(matic) spends much time on the DL, it is game over for the good guys. He carries the Reds.

    I’m with you guys, the Pirates are fun to watch…they’re a game back from the Reds, so I’ve been paying attention to them, and although I don’t root for them…I kinda like them. I can handle them winning way more than I can those whiny little b!tches in St. Louis.

  224. Plunketthead Says:

    The flopper goalie better hope Americans dont see him putting hairpins before the big match.

    Most Americans think Soccer is a girlie sport. No use giving fuel for the stereotype

  225. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Ohhh…..I’d definitely debate that Granderson thing with you.

    Curtis is the benefactor of that short porch in Yankee stadium, and Andrew is CLEARLY a better defensive CF.

    And Granderson is not even hitting .250 right now.

  226. Just Fire Baby Says:

    LOL…..I saw that too Plunk.

    YIKES!!!

  227. alf_capone Says:

    chavez just hit a 2 run hr to tie the yanks with the white sox. y isnt he with the a’s any more? i love it when he comes in the game for us. even if it means arod isnt goin to be in the line up. anyone know y he left or y the a’s got rid of him?

  228. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Chago shoulder was supposedly shot and couldn’t throw anymore.

    That was the rationale the A’s gave I believe, besides the fact they were paying him close to $10 million per and he couldn’t hit over .240

  229. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Was that Eddie Vedder?

  230. alf_capone Says:

    good for us then i guess. i like him alot. seems like he gets alotta big hits when hes in the game and isnt bad in the field.

  231. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Chavez is having a great year.

    Probably will earn a few comeback POY votes.

  232. alf_capone Says:

    Andrew is CLEARLY a better defensive CF.

    ———————————————————

    dont know how clear that is. i def. disagree with you 100 percent but thats just my opinion. i bet most ppl would agree with me tho. granderson drives in alotta runs, you can say its cuz of the stadium he is in but it is what it is. and it IS alotta runs

  233. Buckeyeraider Says:

    The pirates are defenitely a team to watch. It started last year. They got off to a hot start, were in 1st place mid year and then faded badly down the stretch.

    Another young team that needs to learn how to win.

    For years that org traded away it’s “best” veteran players for prospects. Now those minor league prospects are arriving on the scene at the same time. Mixed in with some high draft picks and Pittsburgh’s going to be a team to reckon with for awhile.

    At least until they have to start paying these guys.

  234. alf_capone Says:

    grandersons fielding percentage is even higher. just looked it up

  235. Just Fire Baby Says:

    McCutchen has more RBI’s right now, with a vastly inferior lineup around him.

    Dude is almost hitting 100 point higher than Granderson!!!

  236. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I don’t think you will see Curtis win a gold glove in his career. Maybe 1, because he is solid defensively.

    McCutchen will win at least 4 or 5 in his career.

    My opinion, we will see what the scribes do.

  237. alf_capone Says:

    right now he does. last yr he didnt or the yr b4 that or b4 that.

  238. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I like Granderson though, he is a good dude and solid all the way around.

    Just those 40 home run seasons WOULD NEVER HAPPEN in any other stadium.

  239. alf_capone Says:

    u know i didnt realize granderson hasnt won a gold glove yet.

  240. alf_capone Says:

    cano just hit ANOTHER hr. dude is on fire. guess it wasnt just a june thing

  241. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Compare their first 4 years in RBI totals.

    I believe Andrew has him beat.

    But it is not an apples to oranges debate. Andrew hits 3rd or 4th and Curtis leads off a lot.

  242. alf_capone Says:

    they are both good. i guess anyone could go either way. i just happen to prefer granderson. i also happen to be a yankees fan

  243. Just Fire Baby Says:

    just happen to prefer granderson. i also happen to be a yankees fan

    *************************

    LOL

    Well there it is!!

    Granderson could have won the MVP last year, IMO, but outside of big flies, he is struggling a little this year.

  244. Buckeyeraider Says:

    I HAVE been reading along, even though I haven’t been able to post in awhile.

    Like a lot of posters I was kinda surprised and disapointed with Jaws’ ranking. Oh well. I thought Carson was pretty impressive for somebody fresh off his sofa with a new team, thrust into a starting role with no practice, etc.

    I think this will just add to his motivation. Carson has a lot to prove. I look for a big year for him, working with Oakland’s exciting young WR’s.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s comeback POY. Especially if DMAC stays relatively healthy.

    On that note…I would like to see the Raiders sign C Benson. Why Not?. DMac staying healthy is a BIG if.

    Taiwon Jones, as exciting as his potential is…hasn’t proven anything. Least of all that he can stay healthy.

    Not sure I want to put all of my eggs in Goodsons basket. He’s kind of an unkown commodity as well. He could be great and just stuck behind two other RB’s in Carolina. Who knows?

    Let him compete against Benson in preseason. We need a quality backup.

    Benson has run for over 1,000 yds 3 of last 4 years. In a division that includes Pitt and Baltimore.

    Guy runs hard. Could be a nice compliment to McFadden and a proven backup, IMO.

  245. alf_capone Says:

    he is struggling a little this year.

    —————————————————

    he still gets it done in the field, on the base paths, and puts up runs with the stick. if this is him struggling i cant wait to see him when he gets it going.

  246. Raidernationdave Says:

    Told you O dog….Spain!

  247. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I think Goodson has more value for this team on special teams units, where supposedly he is pretty good.

    Someone has to replace Rock Cartwright on those teams.

  248. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I am sure Granderson would admit he needs to hit better than .246.

    That would be the 2nd worst total for his career.

    Down year so far.

  249. alf_capone Says:

    batting average isnt the best hes had but he is still getting it done at an all star caliber. i mean last yr he only hit 262 and he still finished what 3rd in the al mvp voting

  250. Just Fire Baby Says:

    No doubt, All-Star player

  251. Raider O Says:

    Dave,

    Spain has a great team, but it’s not over.

    Italya!!!!

  252. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Spain might outscore the Dodgers for the week!!!

  253. Raidernationdave Says:

    Told you O – Spain all the way.

    Ole this Italy!

  254. Raider O Says:

    Dave,

    LOL

    You were right. It’s over.

  255. Just Fire Baby Says:

    New Movie called “Savages”

    I heard Cooper Carlisle has a guest appearance

  256. Plunketthead Says:

    Thats what the goalie gets for being a girl

    Ole!!!

  257. Plunketthead Says:

    I am watching Tigger & Poppingfresh battle it out.

    Much more exciting

    Congrats Dave and SPAIN= OLE!!!
    There is a good reason why Spain is the greatest gold thieves in the universe. It does not suprise me a bit that they are the best footballers.

  258. Raider O Says:

    OLE Dave.

  259. Raider O Says:

    I wonder who is going to be your next overachiever?
    Myers?

  260. Raidernationdave Says:

    Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaang! That’s some ass-whoopin’ Spain is giving Italy!

    Ole’!

  261. Raidernationdave Says:

    OMG this is now embarrassing.

  262. Raidernationdave Says:

    I expected PK’s not an annihilation.

  263. Buckeyeraider Says:

    One last thing before I gotta go. I saw Dave and DJ Johnny talking about UFO last night. I got a kick out of that. One of my faves.

    In fact, I just let a guy I work with borrow my live Strangers in the Night CD. The guy plays guitar…he’s pretty good too.

    Wanted to see what he thought of Schenker’s guitar work on that one.

    They are one of the best lil bands hardly anybody’s ever heard of, IMO.

    Although a couple of years ago NorcoBob mentioned he liked to play some UFO at his rocking tailgates. lol.

    You guys enjoy the rest of your weekend. Preseason can’t get here soon enough. Can’t wait.

  264. Raidernationdave Says:

    Rock Bottom live is the shiz.

    ++++++++++++++++

    Buckeyeraider Says:
    July 1st, 2012 at 1:34 pm

    One last thing before I gotta go. I saw Dave and DJ Johnny talking about UFO last night. I got a kick out of that. One of my faves.

    In fact, I just let a guy I work with borrow my live Strangers in the Night CD. The guy plays guitar…he’s pretty good too.

    Wanted to see what he thought of Schenker’s guitar work on that one.

    They are one of the best lil bands hardly anybody’s ever heard of, IMO.

    Although a couple of years ago NorcoBob mentioned he liked to play some UFO at his rocking tailgates. lol.

    You guys enjoy the rest of your weekend. Preseason can’t get here soon enough. Can’t wait.

  265. Raidernationdave Says:

    I can’t believe Italy got their assess handed to ‘em like that.

  266. Plunketthead Says:

    Tigger leading and still acting like a immature drunk at the local muni

  267. DJ Johnny Says:

    Next time somebody tries to give u crap about Carson Palmer being a “quitter” make sure u mention the multitude of guys who held out and refused to play due to not enuff money.

    Guys like:

    -Emmitt Smith (missed 1st two games of 95 season in contract dispute).

    -Marshall Faulk…(refused to play for St. Louis for many games until they ponied up).

    That’s two hall of famers right there and there are MANY, MANY others.

    Which is worse? Palmer did not quit midseason on Bengals…he hung in there until season was over and it had NOTHING to do with $$$. He was willing to retire rather than continue to play for that org. but he gave them plenty of time to get their act together and find a replacement.

    Anyway, just something to keep in mind.

  268. DJ Johnny Says:

    …also, didn’t the great SB winning QB Eli Manning refuse to play for SD?

    Is that correct?

  269. Seymour Bush Says:

    DJ Johnny Says:
    July 1st, 2012 at 1:50 pm

    Next time somebody tries to give u crap about Carson Palmer being a “quitter” make sure u mention the multitude of guys who held out and refused to play due to not enuff money.
    ====================================

    Exactly. Anyone who calls Palmer a quitter is out of their mind. it’s actually Mike Brown who continually quits on his franchise in a multitude of ways. But if you have any doubts about Palmer, just put in the 2nd half of either the Green Bay game or the Miami Game and you see Palmer just getting his ass KICKED and he stays in and finishes. That’s Not the trait of a quitter in my mind.

  270. DJ Johnny Says:

    Let’s not forget another Hall of Famer who gets nothing but praise by everyone who speaks his name.

    “John Riggins was one of the biggest characters to ever play football and rarely one to take himself too seriously – except when he wanted to renegotiate his contract in 1980. Riggins was making $300,000 a year and was seeking a raise up to $500,000, but the Redskins refused to budge. In response, Riggins left training camp and the Redskins proceeded to put him on the left camp-retired list, making him ineligible to play for any other team.

    Riggins sat out the entire season, spending it on his farm in Kansas. At the age of 31, everyone had assumed he was done for good, but one should never make assumptions about John Riggins.

    In 1981, newly hired coach Joe Gibbs made his way up to Riggins’ farm to try to convince him to come back to the team. Riggins let Gibbs talk for a while before telling him, “You need to get me back there. I’ll make you famous.” Two months later Riggins showed up to camp, telling the media, “I’m bored, I’m broke, I’m back.”

    I know I may be beating a dead horse but you don’t have to look to hard to find other so called “quitters” whose situation was much more “greedy” or selfish.

  271. Raidernationdave Says:

    Spot on DJJ!

  272. DJ Johnny Says:

    The thing I admire (among many) about Palmer is the guy doesn’t give a red rats rip what anyone says about him.

    He was willing to walk away from millions of dollars and “retire” rather than be miserable playing for an org that refused to acquire the muscle to really make a serious run at the SB.

    There’s a reason Cincy made the playoffs those two yrs. and it’s name is Carson Palmer.

    Palmer WANTS to play for the S and B. If nothing else than the fact he gets to wear a cool looking uniform and not some clown outfit (lol), But seriously, you can tell the guy loves being a Raider…probably loves working closer to home in Cali too.

    I love the guys demeanor…win or lose…he’s gonna give his all.

  273. DJ Johnny Says:

    271.Raidernationdave Says:
    July 1st, 2012 at 2:09 pm
    Spot on DJJ!

    Thx. By the way, congrats on a killer wknd. at the shop.

  274. Raidernationdave Says:

    Thanks dude! I need one today for a 5 car weekend. The bonus is 1/2 a geezie!

  275. Seymour Bush Says:

    “John Riggins was one of the biggest characters to ever play football and rarely one to take himself too seriously
    =======================================

    One of the great moments in all of humanity was when the Redskins were invited to a state dinner at the White House and a drunk Riggins passed out in his plate of spaghetti right next to Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O’Conner. Riggins awoke to find O’Conner aghast at which he replied, “lighten up Sandy baby…”

  276. Raidernationdave Says:

    Spain beat Italy like a rented mule. Holla.

    Spain has to be one of, if not ‘the’, favorite to win the ‘14 WC.

    I got Spain beyotches!

    Of course, if they meet Argentina and Messi I could be persuaded to change my mind.

    Lionel Messi is the shiznizzie at the moment.

  277. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    July 1st, 2012 at 6:32 am
    England,

    The Dodgers are desperate for a bat, being that I think they were outscored by Italy this week.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    LOL.

  278. Plunketthead Says:

    Tigger is in trouble! Good match. The entire golf industry is much better when Tigger is on the leader board

  279. Plunketthead Says:

    Dave I will be taking one of the southern hemisphere teams. Probaly Messi or one of the Guay’s

    Dang, anyone see Tiggers last shot? That would have been something else

  280. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Raider O Says:
    July 1st, 2012 at 9:08 am
    Oleeeeee
    Ole
    Ole
    Oleeee
    Olee
    Ole

    ITALYA (real word for you ignorant monkeys that don’t know any better).

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Hey O!

    LOL.

    You either need to go on a vacation or you should go back to selling cars.

  281. Plunketthead Says:

    lol England.

    So what is the word on Rooney and the rest of the team. I dont read anything but I was wondering who got the blame for the loss? Was everyone “happy” for the most part about how wellthe team did and what is gonna be done for the future.

    England is my team now.

  282. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Plunk:

    The England/Italy game was pretty well played by both sides but they were both far too hesitant to be aggressive.
    Both of them were afraid of making a mistake but both teams played well.

    And then it came down to a fuk’n shootout!
    The shootout is absolutely a stupid innovation.
    It’s all about luck or some stupid azz goalie.

    Man that took a long time for the smoke to stop coming out of my head!

    In Italy v. Spain I was pulling for Italy but then I have Italians who are friends of mine.

  283. Raidernationdave Says:

    Uruguay could certainly be one of the sleepers and maybe even make the round of 8 but I don’t know that I’d pick ‘em to win it.

    +++++++++++

    Plunketthead Says:
    July 1st, 2012 at 2:56 pm

    Dave I will be taking one of the southern hemisphere teams. Probaly Messi or one of the Guay’s

    Dang, anyone see Tiggers last shot? That would have been something else

  284. Raidernationdave Says:

    Hate to be the one to say it but it never should have gone to PK’s. England was the better team but they just got outplayed down the stretch.

    ++++++++++++++++++

    ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
    July 1st, 2012 at 3:13 pm

    Plunk:

    The England/Italy game was pretty well played by both sides but they were both far too hesitant to be aggressive.
    Both of them were afraid of making a mistake but both teams played well.

    And then it came down to a fuk’n shootout!
    The shootout is absolutely a stupid innovation.
    It’s all about luck or some stupid azz goalie.

    Man that took a long time for the smoke to stop coming out of my head!

    In Italy v. Spain I was pulling for Italy but then I have Italians who are friends of mine.

  285. Plunketthead Says:

    England

    The shootout blows especially if your men kick like high schoolers.

    I think they were too tuckered out to make strong, accurate, kicks.

    So Queen & Country were happy?

  286. Plunketthead Says:

    Dave, I think it was Uraguay that made a strong run last year and they have a fantastic National Anthem. Thats why I pulled for them last WC

  287. Raidernationdave Says:

    That putting politely Plunk…..

    England choked.

  288. Plunketthead Says:

    Yeah but I want to be careful not to offend my European friends here that are not lmn.

  289. Raidernationdave Says:

    I think Uruguay has a fairly strong team Plunk for sure and I wouldn’t be surprised if they made the round of 8 again but making the semi’s again….IDK – going to tough

  290. Raidernationdave Says:

    If your Euro friends were honest they’d say the same thing! How the fck do you loose when you’re up 2 to 1 in PK’s after two rounds.

    In-fckn-excusable.

  291. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Plunketthead Says:
    July 1st, 2012 at 3:43 pm
    England

    The shootout blows especially if your men kick like high schoolers.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Too true.

    If I wasn’t pulling for England, I would have really enjoyed that chip-shot by Andrea Pirlo down the middle.

    That was a calm and cool effort by Signori Pirlo.
    Smooth and effortless like Snake Stabler.

  292. Raidernationdave Says:

    OK, dudes, I hate to brag and toot my own horn but it has been a few months since I had a weekend like this.

    Got number 5 just a bit ago! Dude I sold a car to in September and one to his sis in December came in an upgraded a vehicle for his wife’s b-day manana.

    Frankly, I lucked out – wasn’t no skill involved here.

    Who cares though, right? 5 car bonus for this weekend is $500 and I’ll take it!

    Holla!

  293. RaiderDebo Says:

    DJ Johnny Says:
    July 1st, 2012 at 2:10 pm

    There’s a reason Cincy made the playoffs those two yrs. and it’s name is Carson Palmer.

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Is that right? Then I guess he’s the reason they didn’t make it the other SEVEN years, right? And by the way, why did the Bengals make the playoffs in 2011? Better yet, why didn’t we?

  294. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Dusty walks Sandoval to get to Pagan and Angel makes ‘em pay!!!

    That said, the Giants may well be meeting the Reds in the playoffs.

    For all you Gaylo fans…you’re going to have to watch from home.

  295. Shibummi Munchateetee Says:

    We didn’t make the playoffs last year cuz we had sh¡t for defense

    ======================

    RaiderDebo Says:
    July 1st, 2012 at 4:24 pm
    DJ Johnny Says:
    July 1st, 2012 at 2:10 pm

    There’s a reason Cincy made the playoffs those two yrs. and it’s name is Carson Palmer.

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Is that right? Then I guess he’s the reason they didn’t make it the other SEVEN years, right? And by the way, why did the Bengals make the playoffs in 2011? Better yet, why didn’t we?

  296. ████████████ Says:

    ӨӨӨӨӨӨӨӨӨӨӨӨӨӨӨӨӨӨӨӨӨӨӨ
    Keepin it real :cool:
    ӨӨӨӨӨӨӨӨӨӨӨӨӨӨӨӨӨӨӨӨӨӨӨ

  297. Raidernationdave Says:

    Thanks to Slowlando McLame.

    +++++++++++++++++++++

    Shibummi Munchateetee Says:
    July 1st, 2012 at 4:38 pm

    We didn’t make the playoffs last year cuz we had sh¡t for defense

  298. Raiders for life Says:

    Debo, I guess the Raiders didn’t make it into post season because J. Russ was released and Soup got hurt. Yeah, thats it.

  299. KoolKell Says:

    The Raiders are below. 500% since 1989. So quit hatin on players

  300. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Great Night!

  301. backstageatapuppetshow Says:

    ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
    July 1st, 2012 at 4:37 pm

    Dusty walks Sandoval to get to Pagan and Angel makes ‘em pay!!!

    __________________________________________

    LOL…What game were you watching?

    Bruce dropped an EASY fly ball…..99 out of 100 over 40 league softball players could have caught that ball…

    LOL…Giants Fans…WOW!

  302. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    Thanks to Slowlando McLame.

    +++++++++++++++++++++

    Shibummi Munchateetee Says:
    July 1st, 2012 at 4:38 pm

    We didn’t make the playoffs last year cuz we had sh¡t for defense

    =============================================
    Well, then we better hope that coaching and scheme have a huge impact on how the D performs bcz Slow is still there and it’s hard for me to see where there’s been definite upgrades anywhere else.

    This isn’t a revelation – but teams with really bad defenses will consistently lose. Teams with really bad defenses that also turn the ball over on offense will get BLOWN OUT.

    Don’t want to piss in the Kool-aid, but for the Raids to have a shot at the playoffs – DA and Tarver are going to have to work some magic and Palmer is going to have to eliminate his turnovers.

    Both can happen, although I’m not confident either will.

    Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.

  303. ████████████ Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    July 1st, 2012 at 6:06 pm
    The Raiders are below. 500% since 1989. So quit hatin on players
    ============================================
    I be hatin on the players cuz Coach Davis brought in and drafted good athletes who were more content to take his money than play. And the coaches he hired didn’t have the nuts to straighten them up. Your given the chance to coach an NFL team and you just stand on the sidelines. No wonder Coach Davis fired them. I woulda too. Todays players are not your fathers Raiders, or in the older gentlemens case, not the Raiders you grew up on. It’s bullsh-t gettin paid before you earn your keep. Where’s the f-cking incentive?

  304. KoolKell Says:

    He drafted track stars, not football players.

  305. KoolKell Says:

    Al drafted speed, because you can’t teach that. But those track stars didn’t t like contact either.

  306. ████████████ Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    July 1st, 2012 at 6:31 pm
    He drafted track stars, not football players.
    ==========================================

    He drafted Bo Jackson, MAllen, Howie Long, procured Plunkett, Nap, Denarius Moore, just to name a few. He drafted football players. Granted a speedster here and there, but I’d say quite a few HOFers’ were drafted by Coach.

  307. KoolKell Says:

    Yes, all those HOF’rs were drafted when Ron Wolf was there.

  308. ████████████ Says:

    True, those few track stars did not like contact. But he had the eye for football players too. Some of the coaches I’d say were suspect tho, but Madden, Florres and Gruden were genius.

  309. ████████████ Says:

    Coach also had an eye for guys like Wolf too.

  310. KoolKell Says:

    When Ron Wolf left the Raiders went down, the Green Bay Packers went up.

  311. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Yeah that’s right Al Davis the meddling owner who has such a large ego that he had to have his hands in everything just sat back and let Ron Wolfe build the team.

    Get a clue, we already had this argument 100 times and every time someone has to post the Ron Wolfe interview where he says that he learned everything he knows about football from Al Davis.

    Stop your spin cycle KK

  312. KoolKell Says:

    666, you don’t know jack schit about Raider history. I was there.

  313. mcfadden20. Says:

    Lets GO RAIDERS !!!!!!!! FInally the month of july is here , can’t wait to see the training camp battles

  314. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “I was there.”

    You were where exactly?

    In the war room with Ron Wolfe and Al Davis?

    In the coaches or owners meetings or front office meetings with Ron Wolfe and Al Davis?

    Did you work in the Raiders front office as Amy Trask’s secretary?

    Unless the answer is yes to any of those questions your just a balling old goat who needs his diaper changed.

  315. DJ Johnny Says:

    311.Silverandblack666 Says:
    July 1st, 2012 at 6:48 pm
    Yeah that’s right Al Davis the meddling owner who has such a large ego that he had to have his hands in everything just sat back and let Ron Wolfe build the team.

    Get a clue, we already had this argument 100 times and every time someone has to post the Ron Wolfe interview where he says that he learned everything he knows about football from Al Davis.

    Stop your spin cycle KK

    U might need to break that artice out again cuz apparently guys are not getting it.

    Either Al Davis was NOT the meddling ego maniac everyone says he was, OR he was a sniveling yes man who gave the keys to Ron Wolf to run the organization.

    You can’t have it both ways.

    IN HIS OWN WORDS we know what Wolf said. The response from those who refuse to give Al any credit for anything say that Wolf was afraid he’d be assassinated by Al’s hitmen if he didn’t lie about his true feelings about Al, or that Wolf was making it up for some other reason which makes no sense…why would he willingly give credit to someone else for his own accomplishments?

    I think Wolf was a genius and I think Al was smart to hire him.

    Why is that so difficult?

    Can’t we let Al Davis rest in peace already?

  316. DJ Johnny Says:

    Al Davis was a controlling, dictator, megalomaniac.

    EXCEPT when it came to Ron Wolf.

    He cowered under the weight of Wolf’s presence and deferred to anything Wolf wanted, but Wolf was the ony person Al would let run things his own way.

    Ok. I got it now.

    Makes total sense.

  317. backstageatapuppetshow Says:

    The New Raider Organizational Model:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qp0HIF3SfI4

  318. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “Al Davis was a controlling, dictator, megalomaniac.

    EXCEPT when it came to Ron Wolf.

    He cowered under the weight of Wolf’s presence and deferred to anything Wolf wanted, but Wolf was the ony person Al would let run things his own way.

    Ok. I got it now.

    Makes total sense.”

    I had this conversation with Sandusky44 100 times and you said the exact thing that I have said many times in here like Al took orders from people he just rolled over like a dog.m COME ON MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  319. Silverandblack666 Says:

    This should end the debate once and for all:

    “Davis coached Wolf on what he was looking for in young prospects — desirable qualities for each position. The mission for every Raiders employee was clearly defined: Make Oakland a better football team, piece by piece.”

    http://www.profootballweekly.com/2011/10/14/wolf-davis-part-of-nfls-elite

  320. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Another quote from Ron Wolfe in the article I just posted.

    “What the Raiders built in the 1960s cannot be overstated, and Wolf says Davis had an enormous impact on every decision that was made within the organization. He was the last of pro football’s do-it-all men. “”

  321. Smuckers Says:

    Todays Raider Nation Poll:

    Who would you rather see in Silver and Black:

    Donavan McNabb or Matt Hassleback

  322. Smuckers Says:

    Who would you rather see wearing Silver and Black if you could sign one of them right now:

    tackle Anthony Davis or safety Sabby Piscitelli

  323. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    This should end the debate once and for all…
    ======================================
    Rest assured, it won’t.

    At his peak, Davis was the best there was.

    Davis was the iconic renegade that did things his way and built a dominant team and brand.

    Problem is, Davis faltered badly towards the end.

    There were some lean years before a resurgence during the Gruden era, but the Raids were ALWAYS relevant til that point. No longer a dominant team, but you always felt they were close and that Davis would get it done somehow.

    Then came the horrific string of first round busts and horrible free agent signings and poor trades.

    The Raids were no longer relevant. Heck, they became a laughing stock and were abysmal bottom feeders that set a record for futility.

    Thus, the door was opened to question Al’s legacy.

    Wolf was an important part of the organization that Al built. But it’s revisionist history to give Wolf the lion’s share of credit for the glory years and to diminish Davis’ contribution. Davis was always the captain of the ship.

    Al was a legend that deserves the bulk of the credit for making the Raiders what they once were. He also deserves severe criticism for what they became.

    For me, it ain’t the same without Al. I’ll always be a Raider fan, but not getting to see the Old Man hoist a 4th Lombardi – and prove all the naysayers wrong a final time – takes just a little luster and enthusiasm away from the enterprise.

    RIP AL.

  324. Plunketthead Says:

    Alyssa Milano

  325. DJ Johnny Says:

    320.Silverandblack666 Says:
    July 1st, 2012 at 8:17 pm
    Another quote from Ron Wolfe in the article I just posted.

    “What the Raiders built in the 1960s cannot be overstated, and Wolf says Davis had an enormous impact on every decision that was made within the organization. He was the last of pro football’s do-it-all men. “”

    Belichik didn’t do squat in Cleveland. He didn’t win until he worked with Kraft. Belichik sucks.

    Jordan didn’t win squat w/o Pippen. Pippen was the true great one.

    I don’t see how it can’t be that Al Davis and Ron Wolf worked great together. There collective success does not have to take away from there individual successes.

    Ron Wolf didn’t win jack w/o Al Davis and Ted Thompson. Wolf was a failure in his short stint in Tampa. W/O Al Davis and Ted Thompson he was a failure.

  326. Raidernationdave Says:

    Who would you rather see wearing the Silver and Black of the Raiderettes if you could sign one of them right now:

    Maria Sharapova vs. That chick in the Fiat 500 commercial with Charlie Sheen?

  327. Thec Says:

    Raidernationdave Says:
    July 1st, 2012 at 9:31 pm
    Who would you rather see wearing the Silver and Black of the Raiderettes if you could sign one of them right now:

    +++++++++++++

    Kenya Moore

  328. Raidernationdave Says:

    Guru 99 there are several things that give me hope that things can and will turn around rather quickly for the boys in S&B.

    One of the things that I’m certain will happen is that the defense is being “modernized” as we speak. JT knows that the old Raider D way of rarely blitz, rush four, man everywhere is dated. The team has to take advantage of the athletes they do have and play to their strengths.

    What I we hopefully might see is a Raider team that is “updated” through scheme and game management on both sides of the ball. Gotta admit with HueJaxCity it was always run, run, pass. Now the Raider O has speed and size with the WR’s & that should open up with a re-write of the playbook.

    Lastly the Raiders have Reggie McKenzie. This guy was with Ron Wolf for 26 years. Ron was extremely instrumental in the success of the Raiders under AD’s leadership during the 70’s. I’m certain Reggie picked up an awful lot of knowledge off of Wolf. Plus he has Raider bloodlines so the desire to rebuild the Raiders to greatness is there. On paper the Raider O matches up with those the the West. There’s a lot to look forward to.
    ++++++++++++++++++
    RAIDERMAN99 Says:
    July 1st, 2012 at 6:19 pm

    Well, then we better hope that coaching and scheme have a huge impact on how the D performs bcz Slow is still there and it’s hard for me to see where there’s been definite upgrades anywhere else.

    This isn’t a revelation – but teams with really bad defenses will consistently lose. Teams with really bad defenses that also turn the ball over on offense will get BLOWN OUT.

    Don’t want to piss in the Kool-aid, but for the Raids to have a shot at the playoffs – DA and Tarver are going to have to work some magic and Palmer is going to have to eliminate his turnovers.

    Both can happen, although I’m not confident either will.

    Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.

  329. Raider guy Says:

    Remember we set a record for penalties and our d was TERRIBLE. It is impressive we were as close as we were…I think we are closer than people think. Watching last years games again…we would have won if we had a half way decent d and/or middle of the pack penalties. Last year was more frustrating than the 2 win or 4 win seasons because we beat ourselves silly. But maybe that means we are close?

  330. Shibummi Munchateetee Says:

    Raider guy Says:
    July 1st, 2012 at 10:45 pm
    Remember we set a record for penalties and our d was TERRIBLE. It is impressive we were as close as we were…I think we are closer than people think. Watching last years games again…we would have won if we had a half way decent d and/or middle of the pack penalties. Last year was more frustrating than the 2 win or 4 win seasons because we beat ourselves silly. But maybe that means we are close?
    ****************************************************

    Our D was raunch covered with skank. Can you imagine if the D squad was only like 10% less worse we’d of made the post season. We were closer than most people realize or we got credit for. But when you give up 99 and 99 1/2 yard drives when everyone knows you couldn’t stop it anyway, you know the D is all ass. Funky crusty mud butt ass. But all that is going to be different now. We’ll be in the top 10. Book it.

  331. Seymour Bush Says:

    RaiderDebo Says:
    July 1st, 2012 at 4:24 pm

    Is that right?
    ===============================

    All anyone needs to know is you have been defending Jamarcus Russell and bashing Carson Palmer non stop. Now, you might think you have a point, but every single person that actually works in the NFL would think you are a bona fide idiot. Enuff said.

  332. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I think last year we were a lot closer to 6-10 than 10-6.

    We won a lot of nail-biters, then got pulverized in a lot of losses.

  333. guest123 Says:

    That may be true that we were closer to being a 6-10 team, but it’s human nature to ask the “what if” questions. It didnt’ take more than a smidge more luck and the Raiders would have made the playoffs.

    Of course, the way they played so erratically and the defense as bad as it was, it was only going to be inevitable that they were going to be one and done in the playoffs anyway.

  334. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Seymour doesn’t block that FG in KC, and we lose our last 5 games down the stretch last season.

    Not the sign of a team a smidge away, but since the rest of the division shat the bed as well we still had a chance.

  335. Just Fire Baby Says:

    And Top of the Muffin to you sir!!

  336. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Carson Palmer could be a better NFL QB when he is 52 years old then when Jamarcus was 22 years old.

  337. Raider O Says:

    The Raiders are below. 500% since 1989. So quit hatin on players
    $$$$$$$$$$$$

    .500%?!?!?!
    Your ignorance is amazing KK!

  338. hwnrdr Says:

    Good Morning Nation!!! The 4th creeping around the corner….

  339. guest123 Says:

    Good morning all. Hope you had a great weekend. How many more weeks till camp?

  340. Violent Hands Says:

    “get that guy away from me,get him away from me,i cant concentrate,tell that guy to just shut-up“

    “Phil thats your boss“

    “Omg thats my boss Mr.Davis,i didnt know that“

    nobody tells em like Mr.V

  341. Just Fire Baby Says:

    T-minus 4 weeks I believe, before one of the better times in here.

    The minute-by-minute overreaction to our fearless leaders tweets from practice.

    I.E

    “DVD makes play on ball and INT”
    Reaction: DVD is going to ball, you idiots said he could never play, he will probably start

    “DVD beat deep by Murphy for TD”
    Reaction: Can we cut this guy…..he stinks and will never be any good….time to look for my depth

    “DVD leaves field with what looks to be cramps”
    Reaction: This guy can never stay healthy…..what a vag…….If only he could stay healthy he could be a Pro Bowler

    Great times!!!!

  342. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    THAT JUST ABOUT COVERS IT JFB.GOOD MORNING TO ALL.

  343. guest123 Says:

    I might be able to catch “Raider Nation Celebration” on August 12. I have a last minute travel to San Jose around that time. I’d love to be able to catch that Cowboys game.

  344. guest123 Says:

    Any advice on getting a ticket or attending the “celebration” is appreciated.

  345. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    I CAN COVER U ON THAT GUEST.I THINK IT’S FREE THOUGH.GO TO RAIDER WEB-SITE.IF NOT,I GOT U.

  346. Violent Hands Says:

    When a guy is quiet like DMO things going on that nobody knows about,he def no gym rat…Palmers quotes like“he can go all the way ,if he wants it bad enough“, also reveals my point,this kid is so talented i fear he dont prepare like he should do,he dosent look any bigger or stronger from last season,i tell you now we gotta be real careful with this kid

  347. guest123 Says:

    Thanks for the info Dirt-Lot. Glad it’s free! I’m traveling alone this time, I’ll check out Raiders.com. Would be nice to say hello!

  348. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    @GUEST,THE TICKET HOLDERS GET PASSES.I NEVER SEEM TO FIND THE TIME.IF U WANT EM,U GOT EM..

  349. hwnrdr Says:

    Do we still get passes for that? I thought it stopped a year ago because it became free. Wasn’t it $5 before, with the season ticket holders being free with the pass? I don’t know, the only time I went was the dreadful 2006 season. it was cool, but now they make it on days where I can’t seem to get there!

  350. guest123 Says:

    Thanks Dirt-Lot. Will u be attending? Hwnrdr? Like I said, it would be nice to shake your hand in person. I don’t really know if I’m going to make it, I’m being flown on somebody else dollar. More business than anything, but it will be nice to visit my brother and sister. The last time I visited California was in 2009 when my mother passed.

  351. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    U MAY BE CORRECT HWNRDR..

  352. hwnrdr Says:

    Not sure if I will go to that one, but the day after is the Monday nighter against Dallas. I will go to that one! But you never know. Keep us in the loop…its always nice to put a face to the name on here!

  353. guest123 Says:

    Yeah, that would be nice! Don’t know yet what my travel plans are. Just know I’m going for a couple, maybe 3 days and then I’m sent back home. Not my arrangements, but it’s all free with per diem at least!

  354. theghostronin79 Says:

    That may be true that we were closer to being a 6-10 team, but it’s human nature to ask the “what if” questions. It didnt’ take more than a smidge more luck and the Raiders would have made the playoffs.

    Of course, the way they played so erratically and the defense as bad as it was, it was only going to be inevitable that they were going to be one and done in the playoffs anyway.

    =====================================

    Yeah, true story….I’m a Palmer over Campbell fan, but I can’t deny how much improved Jason started out his second season with us. I was not “Blown away” but I was impressed. I think everyone let out a collective “BIG DEGECTED SIGH” when DMAC went out of the game, then when Jason went down with the collar bone…..I personally felt like the season might be a wash after that. The fact that Carson came in and had some good victories was encouraging, and Bush did well out of the gates. I think that picked our heads up and made us think we could pull a rabbit out of this one.
    It just gets so hard to go into a season HOPING for luck, and breaks, and for other teams to crap the bed vs, KNOWING you have a good team and feeling confident in their capabilities.

  355. guest123 Says:

    It just gets so hard to go into a season HOPING for luck, and breaks, and for other teams to crap the bed vs, KNOWING you have a good team and feeling confident in their capabilities.

    *********

    Which is why if you believe that Dennis Allen and Mad Scientist Tarver bring the discipline that previous regimes didn’t have because of lack of authority, then you no longer have to hope for LUCK.

    With a well disciplined team, we can sit back and execute and make the other team make the mental errors that kill them. Turn the tables on what we were, and put the pressure on the other guys to implode. That’s what strikes me about Reggies, “aw shucks”, laid back demeanor. He doesn’t stress, he’s going to emphasize success through repitition and precision and let other teams make the critical mistakes.

  356. Raider O Says:

    We gave the division away the last 2 seasons:
    10: we go 6-0 in the division, but only manage to win 2/10 games outside it.
    11: we lost 4 of our last 5 games.

    Anything less than 8-8/ 9-7 people should get fired (DC, OC, or HC).

  357. Raider O Says:

    If we had any kind of defense last year, we win 2 more games.
    - Bills and Lions!

  358. guest123 Says:

    I always appreciated Soup too. He worked his tail off to get this team ready last year. He overacheived if anything. But the minute you saw a Carson Palmer throw go deep downfield on a perfect arc, trajectory, timing, and touch.

    The Thursday Night game against San Diego was all anyone needed to see to flip the switch and see the difference from Soup to CP3. It was a huge difference, and once you get a taste for elite throwing skills and mechanics, it’s hard to remember that Soup was ever a part of this team’s long term plans. The difference was night and day. I give mad props to Soup for bringing his lunch pail every day, but he’s not in the same league as CP3.

  359. Raider O Says:

    -We led the league in penalties.
    -Had one of the worst defenses in Raiders’ history.
    -Hue was our HC and Chucky was the DC.
    -We lost our starting QB and RB due to injuries.

    We were 8-8.

    I expect us to do better this season.

  360. Raider O Says:

    Soup was too conservative. You need a good defense, and great players on offense (DMAC) for him to be able to have any success as a starter IMO.

  361. guest123 Says:

    Soup was too conservative because he knew his own limitations. He knew his deep ball was a risky proposition and tried to cut down on the turnovers.

    The deep ball is a combination of talent and balls. You need mad talent and brass balls. Soup had neither.

  362. theghostronin79 Says:

    The Thursday Night game against San Diego was all anyone needed to see to flip the switch and see the difference from Soup to CP3
    ===========================
    That game was a glimpse of what we “COULD” be. That is what I hung onto in my mind, heading into the offseason. Carson gets a full offseason and training camp. Come on baby, gimmie more of that SD game.

    I also feel confident in RM, DA, and Tarver. Just like you mentioned. Reggie don’t stress, and you shouldn’t. I had a coach once tell me that stress on game day comes from lack of preparation. You could relate that to a job interview or anything else. No stress = piles of preparation and doing things the right way.

  363. hwnrdr Says:

    Raider O Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 7:26 am
    Soup was too conservative. You need a good defense, and great players on offense (DMAC) for him to be able to have any success as a starter IMO.

    I agree with this…put it this way, we probably should have been 6-0 out the gates if we had at least a decent defense last year. And probably 7-1 (that game against KC was a wash with everyone down and Boller in there, ugghh!) before the bye week!

  364. hwnrdr Says:

    Well, we did have NE wondering until that throw in the endzone to a wide open Patrick Chung!

  365. Raider O Says:

    Hwnrdr,

    If we had any kind of defense, we win 2 more games (bills and Lions) and the division.
    Too bad our HC was more interested in gaining more power and getting Manicures & Pedicures.

  366. Raider O Says:

    Since when do bullies get Manicures and pedicures?

  367. Raider O Says:

    Plunk,

    What the Italian Goalie did was nothing compared to a HC in the NFL getting Manicures and pedicures.

  368. guest123 Says:

    I can forgive Hue his habit of keeping his nails clean and shiny. He could have painted them cherry red and worn mascara for all I care. What is unforgivable is losing the team after Soup went down. No forgiveness for losing the season. Would not have been a story had Hue won.

  369. Raider O Says:

    Guest,

    That’s the point!

  370. Raidernationdave Says:

    Mornin’ ma Beyotches!

    I had a great weekend!

    +++++++++++++++++++++

    guest123 Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 6:01 am

    Good morning all. Hope you had a great weekend. How many more weeks till camp?

  371. guest123 Says:

    That game was a glimpse of what we “COULD” be. That is what I hung onto in my mind, heading into the offseason. Carson gets a full offseason and training camp. Come on baby, gimmie more of that SD game.

    ***************

    Exactly right. What the Raiders could be. How many years have we been watching our games and then flipping the channel to the primetime games with Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers and see the discrepnacy in the QB position? Compared to the leagues elites, we were always fielding either stiffs or journeymen at the most important position.

    That SD game was like “Wow, this is what good QB looks like?” It’s like we got teased there. It becomes addicting to look forward to elite NFL QB play. Especially the deep accurate touch throw. It pulls in all the POTENTIAL of our young stud WR’s, who were being held back because of inconsistent QB play. I want to see what CP3 does with a full offseason under his belt and a healthy explosive young WR corps. This should be awesome to witness.

  372. Raidernationdave Says:

    I’m hurt, sad, and depressed….

    Maria Sharapova got absolutely murdered by Sabine Lisicki.

  373. Raider O Says:

    Dave,

    I bet. 5 cars out, 5 car bonus, and you had fun doing it.
    Maybe England is right, I should go back to the car business.

  374. guest123 Says:

    Well at least is Sabine Lisicki as hot as her name?

  375. Raidernationdave Says:

    I agree.

    When was the last time you saw pics of Mike Tomlin getting a pedi?

    FU Hue.

  376. DJ Johnny Says:

    Raider O Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 7:45 am
    Hwnrdr,

    If we had any kind of defense, we win 2 more games (bills and Lions) and the division.
    Too bad our HC was more interested in gaining more power and getting Manicures & Pedicures

    Don’t forget SD game.

    If we were able to hold SD at their own 1/2 yd. line we would’ve been down only 5 with a short field to score a TD and win the division EVEN WITH losing to Buffalo and Detroit previously.

    Some say Raiders could’ve just as easily been 6-10 with the close games we won but u can also rightly say should’ve been at least 11-5 if we had just a below average D…not the horrendous one we did have.

    IMO, yes…the D was THAT bad.

  377. Raidernationdave Says:

    O that’s right….1 on Friday, 3 on Saturday, 1 on Sunday. 5 car bonus, Fast-Finish Bonus were sick, I gotta buy my manager lunch on Wednesday!

  378. Raidernationdave Says:

    Very pretty girl no doubt. I would love to MS toe jam one day.

    +++++++++++++++

    guest123 Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 8:04 am

    Well at least is Sabine Lisicki as hot as her name?

  379. Raidernationdave Says:

    O c’mon back baby the water is warm!

  380. Raider O Says:

    DJ,

    You are right. I forgot that game.

  381. hwnrdr Says:

    Raidernationdave Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 8:09 am
    Very pretty girl no doubt. I would love to MS toe jam one day.

    +++++++++++++++

    guest123 Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 8:04 am

    Well at least is Sabine Lisicki as hot as her name?

    Pretty, yes…to go with young, but no Maria!

  382. DJ Johnny Says:

    371.guest123 Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 8:02 am
    That game was a glimpse of what we “COULD” be. That is what I hung onto in my mind, heading into the offseason. Carson gets a full offseason and training camp. Come on baby, gimmie more of that SD game.

    ***************

    Exactly right. What the Raiders could be. How many years have we been watching our games and then flipping the channel to the primetime games with Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers and see the discrepnacy in the QB position? Compared to the leagues elites, we were always fielding either stiffs or journeymen at the most important position.

    That SD game was like “Wow, this is what good QB looks like?” It’s like we got teased there. It becomes addicting to look forward to elite NFL QB play. Especially the deep accurate touch throw. It pulls in all the POTENTIAL of our young stud WR’s, who were being held back because of inconsistent QB play. I want to see what CP3 does with a full offseason under his belt and a healthy explosive young WR corps. This should be awesome to witness.

    …and yet Bleacher Report says Carson “struggled mightily” towards end of the season.

    He’s clutch in a hostile environment at Arrowhead in a rivalry game on the road and then follows up with 417 yds. and 2 td’s against SD in the finale and he “struggled mightily”?

  383. hwnrdr Says:

    Or, remember Gabrielle Sabatini?

  384. Raider O Says:

    Dave,

    I used to buy that MFer lunch everyday, but I was a spoon boy so I couldn’t complain.
    Feed Me!!!
    lol

  385. DJ Johnny Says:

    JC seemed like he always played “not to lose”.

  386. guest123 Says:

    Bleacher Report is garbage. They usually don’t know what they are talking about, and I wonder if they even watch the games, or just follow someone else’s opinion and calls it good.

  387. guest123 Says:

    JC seemed like he always played “not to lose”.

    ************

    yeah, that’s exactly how he played. I’m a little fearful that that is the kind of QB that Greg Knapp is going to try to turn CP3 into to fit his conservative WCO.

  388. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Good Morning brethren..

  389. Raidernationdave Says:

    First bong hit: 8:22am

  390. Raidernationdave Says:

    I buy the receptionist lunch and she just happens to “transfer” sales calls to me.

    Gotta have an angle.

    +++++++++++++++++++

    Raider O Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 8:13 am

    Dave,

    I used to buy that MFer lunch everyday, but I was a spoon boy so I couldn’t complain.
    Feed Me!!!
    lol

  391. Raidernationdave Says:

    Plus I give good phone!

  392. guest123 Says:

    Plus I give good phone!

    ***********

    wat?

  393. DJ Johnny Says:

    387.guest123 Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 8:18 am
    JC seemed like he always played “not to lose”.

    ************

    yeah, that’s exactly how he played. I’m a little fearful that that is the kind of QB that Greg Knapp is going to try to turn CP3 into to fit his conservative WCO.

    If so then it would get interesting. Palmer does not strike me as they type of guy that will sit idly by and smile if he sees opportunities downfield that Knapp tells him not to take.

    I juts don’t see it.

    I would hope Knapp will tell him “If u see it…take it man.”

  394. Raider O Says:

    LOL Dave.You are crazy.

  395. DJ Johnny Says:

    391.Raidernationdave Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 8:25 am
    Plus I give good phone!

    Raiderdave, I have a friend in Cali. who is hiring people to sell TV show time to high end businesses.

    The phone sales guy would call up the top business in any field like “Best Restaurant” for example and call up and tell them that they have “won” the distinction…The “cost” to the business to be featured on the show (that airs on Discovery Channel as well as prime time on the local network affiliate) is very minimal and is pitched to be the just the cost of production of the 2 minute video piece and air-time costs.

    He tells me it’s an easy “sale” he just can’t find good people that wanna work at it.

  396. Raidernationdave Says:

    Soup played, and has always played, like a guy just never quite sure of himself, his offense, or coaching staff.

  397. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Raidernationdave Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 8:37 am
    Soup played, and has always played, like a guy just never quite sure of himself, his offense, or coaching staff.

    —-

    Which is understandable

  398. Raidernationdave Says:

    Victoria Azarenka vs. Ana Ivanovic on BSPN right now.

    And yes you do….

    http://images.askmen.com/celebs/women/models_400/417_ana_ivanoviclarge_image-1.jpg

  399. Raidernationdave Says:

    Yeah DAV because Soup had how O coordinators in his life? 658? The dude has offenses constantly changed on him. If Soup had a consistent group for several years he might have been something else.

  400. DJ Johnny Says:

    Someday JC will get another shot to show what he’s all about.

    It may be sooner than later in Chi.

    I did get some crap from one of my Bear fan friends out here cuz I was talking up Soup as an underrated QB (when things were good). And then JC trips over himself scurrying off to Chi. to be Cutler’s backup.

    It seems JC and his agent panicked like “You’d better take this man. It might be your only chance.”

  401. Raidernationdave Says:

    *had

  402. Method To My Madness Says:

    Go for it….go for it….tell her something good and hope she go for it…go for it…go for it…so much waves in my bed i need a surfboard…go for it…go for it

  403. Raidernationdave Says:

    DJJ, I think time has run out for Soup in that regard. He’ll always be someone’s back-up from now on.

  404. Method To My Madness Says:

    JC did cool in his time here but its up….now time for Carson to show same dominance JC did over the AFC West

  405. Method To My Madness Says:

    If Cutler fks up or gets hurt JC will be starting again…you can bet ya bank roll on that

  406. Raidernationdave Says:

    Ivanovic’s is getting murdered as we speak.

  407. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Raidernationdave Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 8:41 am
    Yeah DAV because Soup had how O coordinators in his life? 658? The dude has offenses constantly changed on him. If Soup had a consistent group for several years he might have been something else.

    —-

    Agreed.

  408. DJ Johnny Says:

    Method,

    You get my message?

  409. Method To My Madness Says:

    DJ Johnny…..no i didnt…you emailed me?

  410. Dakota Says:

    A C-130 crashed in my neck of the woods fighting a fire last night. I hear 4 of the 6 crew members died.

    All heroes.

    RIP

  411. DJ Johnny Says:

    409.Method To My Madness Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 8:50 am
    DJ Johnny…..no i didnt…you emailed me?

    Yep. On fb.

  412. Raidernationdave Says:

    MTMM Cutler is a overrated puss in my opinion.

  413. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Raidernationdave Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 8:53 am
    MTMM Cutler is a overrated puss in my opinion.

    —-

    Disagree.

  414. theghostronin79 Says:

    It’s good to have some Monday morning football chatter. It’s what I needed.

  415. Raidernationdave Says:

    I dig women’s tennis.

    http://www.obsessedwithsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Ana-Ivanovic-7.jpg

  416. theghostronin79 Says:

    I hope it works out that you can go to the game
    “Guest123″. I’m jealous as hell. Better believe I’ll be bustin your chops when you return. I’ll want details, details.

  417. Method To My Madness Says:

    412.Raidernationdave Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 8:53 am
    MTMM Cutler is a overrated puss in my opinion.

    ****************

    I never liked him….douchebag central but has a live arm

  418. Raidernationdave Says:

    A lot!

    http://www.celebritywallpaperbase.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/ana_ivanovic_wallpaper1.jpg

  419. Method To My Madness Says:

    411.DJ Johnny Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 8:51 am
    409.Method To My Madness Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 8:50 am
    DJ Johnny…..no i didnt…you emailed me?

    Yep. On fb.

    *************

    let me check it

  420. Method To My Madness Says:

    ok Johnny i got it bruh

  421. Marks hair Says:

    Cutler should have a big yr.

  422. Method To My Madness Says:

    http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-the-dagger/michael-jordan-younger-son-arrested-incident-omaha-hotel-135221373–ncaab.html
    ***************************

    Really? This guy is crazy man

  423. Marks hair Says:

    I dig hot screaming grunting teenage girls too

  424. Method To My Madness Says:

    These young dudes trippin now man…Aldon Dumbass Smith, Rolando Revolver McClain and now Marcus Jordan…..these mthfkas just refuse to learn from mistakes past of others before them….just sad

  425. Method To My Madness Says:

    423.Marks hair Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 9:01 am
    I dig hot screaming grunting teenage girls too

    *********************

    8-teen and 9-teen im hoping you mean

  426. Raidernationdave Says:

    I don’t ever recall seeing “douchebag” and “live arm” in the same sentence but very appropriate regarding Cutler. Well played.

  427. Marks hair Says:

    425. I was refering to raidernationdaves womens tennis comment.. Not girls tennis..

  428. Method To My Madness Says:

    426.Raidernationdave Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 9:04 am
    I don’t ever recall seeing “douchebag” and “live arm” in the same sentence but very appropriate regarding Cutler. Well played.

    *****************************

    Should I add pssy and tap out artist? We still never forgetting 2010 nfc title game at home

    Lovie Smith= a coach who should have had a SB win….but his qbs of choice were Rex Grossman and Jay Cutler lol

  429. Method To My Madness Says:

    427.Marks hair Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 9:05 am
    425. I was refering to raidernationdaves womens tennis comment.. Not girls tennis..

    **********

    fa sho bruh

  430. Method To My Madness Says:

    1417.ohioraider Says:
    June 30th, 2012 at 8:43 am
    Sullivan44 Says:
    June 30th, 2012 at 12:07 am

    Being better than the San Francisco team is the business model for professional sports in Oakland. Prove me otherwise, or just shut up and take that to the bank. No Oakland sports team has succeeded long term without being dominant over the SF team in their sport. NO ONE!!!!!! EVER!!!
    ————————————————
    Dude, I think the onus is on you to prove your point, which strikes me as a little off the wall. You got some secret documents stashed somewhere? Otherwise, all you’re doing is citing some historical data which may be entirely coincidental–to wit, that when one franchise is up the other is down. Are wins and success in the Bay Area a zero sum game? In other words, is there a finite amount of success in the region? That would be truly remarkable.

    There’s also an implication in your rather strained perspective that Oakland teams try to mimic/copy/benchmark? the SF teams. But with McKenzie’s ascendancy–and his clear intention to emulate the Packers–that theory is easily disproven.

    So back to the drawing board for you I’m afraid.

    **********************

    Kill shot to the dome!

    Ohioraider is a guy i have disagreed with alot and he ranks on Al tough…but he totally set MR straight here

  431. Marks hair Says:

    Wow, that we have to be better than sf rant started way back on friday..

  432. Method To My Madness Says:

    431.Marks hair Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 9:14 am
    Wow, that we have to be better than sf rant started way back on friday..

    *********************

    Yes it did…but look at the time it did…i wasnt on becuz hell it was the weekend

  433. Marks hair Says:

    I loved that AL would never settle for just being better than sf.. If sf is 4-12 and we are 8-8 who gives a shlt? I want titles.. You dont get rings for being better than a team that isnt even in our division..

  434. Raider O Says:

    I don’t even know why you guys read his posts and bother to respond.

  435. Raider O Says:

    Who cares about SF? They are not in our division or conference.

  436. Method To My Madness Says:

    434.Raider O Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 9:22 am
    I don’t even know why you guys read his posts and bother to respond.

    *************

    Becuz DJ SulliFresh is pure entertainment…cant you see that?

    Its almost as entertaining as reading a term paper from an Ohio St Football player lol

  437. Method To My Madness Says:

    435.Raider O Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 9:25 am
    Who cares about SF? They are not in our division or conference.

    ******************

    Whoa there buddy….ease up on that…SF is the devil

  438. Method To My Madness Says:

    Raider O….you gotta be from up here to understand

  439. Raider O Says:

    Try again B.
    The Ohio State Univetsity is one of the best schools in the nation.
    You are just mad because they didn’t recruit your cousin. lol

  440. Raider O Says:

    I guess you are right. I don’t like the whiners, but I don’t hate them like SD.

  441. Method To My Madness Says:

    439.Raider O Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 9:29 am
    Try again B.
    The Ohio State Univetsity is one of the best schools in the nation.
    You are just mad because they didn’t recruit your cousin. lol

    ***********************

    I never said it wasnt…im talking about your football players actually writing an essay

    And Ohio St tried to recruit my cousin…Thad Matta wanted him there and all…but big 10 basketball is beyond boring…..i hope osu runs into Mike in the tournament…he will lock Kraft’s overrated ass

  442. Method To My Madness Says:

    440.Raider O Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 9:30 am
    I guess you are right. I don’t like the whiners, but I don’t hate them like SD.

    ***********

    why hate SD? They hate themselves and soon will be the LA Chargers….believe that

  443. Marks hair Says:

    LA is a tittle town, I hope sd doesnt move there.

  444. Plunketthead Says:

    367.Raider O Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 7:48 am
    Plunk,

    What the Italian Goalie did was nothing compared to a HC in the NFL getting Manicures and pedicures.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Except the goalie did it 10 seconds before the start of the most important game in his life with about 200 million people watching. He might as well have picked his nose and ate a booger in front of the crowd.

    Besides, Hue is a pimp. not a NFL head coach. :smile:

  445. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “Becuz DJ SulliFresh is pure entertainment…cant you see that?

    Its almost as entertaining as reading a term paper from an Ohio St Football player lol”

    LMAO good one!

    We all know that without the legendary Ron Wolfe Al Davis was nothing.

  446. Method To My Madness Says:

    443.Marks hair Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 9:35 am
    LA is a tittle town, I hope sd doesnt move there.

    ********************

    It is a tittie town…..sd will move there becuz the stadium situation in SD is all bad….LA Live will be smackin…..because two teams will be there by 2015….yep the return of the LA Chargers and LA Rams…chargers will be at LA Coliseum in 2013 or 2014…Rams coming to LA fa sho fa sho in 2015 becuz they bouncing outta STL

  447. Raider O Says:

    B,

    You have to live here to understand.
    They had Go Bucs billboards during our SB, they made a 3 game pack to avoid selling single raider tickets, and they hate the Raiders more than they love their own team.

    I hate the chargers and their bandwagon fans!

  448. Plunketthead Says:

    He should have manned up and worn a aviation helmet.
    Hairpins?

  449. Method To My Madness Says:

    445.Silverandblack666 Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 9:35 am
    “Becuz DJ SulliFresh is pure entertainment…cant you see that?

    Its almost as entertaining as reading a term paper from an Ohio St Football player lol”

    LMAO good one!

    We all know that without the legendary Ron Wolfe Al Davis was nothing.

    *******************

    Oh yeah even when Wolfe is quoted saying otherwise Kell adn SulliFresh try to refuse this info

  450. Raider O Says:

    I never said it wasnt…im talking about your football players actually writing an essay
    $$$$$$$$$$$

    LOL
    I’m sure our football team can write an essay.

  451. Raider O Says:

    LOL plunk. Good points.

  452. Method To My Madness Says:

    447.Raider O Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 9:39 am
    B,

    You have to live here to understand.
    They had Go Bucs billboards during our SB, they made a 3 game pack to avoid selling single raider tickets, and they hate the Raiders more than they love their own team.

    I hate the chargers and their bandwagon fans!

    ************

    Been to SD more times than you can imagine bruh…i know the level of hate they have for us…doesnt matter to me…I use to walk into Seau’s restuarant by Mission Valley all the time with my Raider gear on…and would pull the sexy waitresses all the fkin time….damn SD and their soft fans….I might go to end of the year game there becuz it will prolly be the last NFL in SD lol…and the Raiders will win that…and with all those sexy bzies who go to the games I SHALL UPDATE MY BLOCK REPORT

  453. Raider O Says:

    LMAO at Herman Cain on the The Daily Show.

  454. Method To My Madness Says:

    450.Raider O Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 9:41 am
    I never said it wasnt…im talking about your football players actually writing an essay
    $$$$$$$$$$$

    LOL
    I’m sure our football team can write an essay.

    ***********************

    HAHAHAHA OHIO St players actually pay attention in school instead of paying folks to write their essays

    Come on be real…this is d1 sports at a powerhouse school

  455. DJ Johnny Says:

    445.Silverandblack666 Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 9:35 am
    “Becuz DJ SulliFresh is pure entertainment…cant you see that?

    Its almost as entertaining as reading a term paper from an Ohio St Football player lol”

    LMAO good one!

    We all know that without the legendary Ron Wolfe Al Davis was nothing.

    Ron Wolf gave birth to Al Davis and raised him as his own.

  456. Raider O Says:

    B,

    Bring some N Cal trees with you.

  457. Method To My Madness Says:

    455.DJ Johnny Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 9:47 am
    445.Silverandblack666 Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 9:35 am
    “Becuz DJ SulliFresh is pure entertainment…cant you see that?

    Its almost as entertaining as reading a term paper from an Ohio St Football player lol”

    LMAO good one!

    We all know that without the legendary Ron Wolfe Al Davis was nothing.

    Ron Wolf gave birth to Al Davis and raised him as his own.

    *****************

    Taught him to read and count…as well as potty train him

  458. Method To My Madness Says:

    456.Raider O Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 9:47 am
    B,

    Bring some N Cal trees with you.

    **************

    If I drive down…i like flying….southwest stewardess bzies be looking solid and be ready to be lambo’d fa sho tho

  459. Raider O Says:

    B,

    That’s an issue with most schools and not just The Ohio State University. I heard ND is different, but I’m not sure.

  460. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “Oh yeah even when Wolfe is quoted saying otherwise Kell adn SulliFresh try to refuse this info”

    Yeah I had to dig up and old article last night and post it for those slow simpletons.

  461. Raider O Says:

    Mail it.
    I miss you Sophia!

  462. Silverandblack666 Says:

    To think that Al Davis rolled over like a dog for anyone is laughable.

    Can you imagine Al as a puppet?

    Yes Al was a weak minded man who let people run him over he never fought back or stood up for himself.

    Where do they come up with this stuff its like I am watching Comedy central or on a bad acid trip.

  463. DJ Johnny Says:

    460.Silverandblack666 Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 9:50 am
    “Oh yeah even when Wolfe is quoted saying otherwise Kell adn SulliFresh try to refuse this info”

    Yeah I had to dig up and old article last night and post it for those slow simpletons.

    Remember the only reason Wolf said what he said is becuz he was afraid Al was gonna have one of his hitmen kill him if he didn’t.

  464. The Big Banana Says:

    They had Go Bucs billboards during our SB

    ———————-

    Seriously? You’d think you wouldn’t have to say this considering all the sun, beach, and beautiful ladies but….get a life.

  465. DJ Johnny Says:

    In school, Al paid others to take tests for him. He threatened Wayne Valley at knifepoint to steal interest in team.

    The three SB’s were exclusively Ron Wolf and the “comeback years” in late 90’s early 2000’s were all Gruden.

    You see, Al handed over the draft to Gruden and all the important decisions and Al deferred to Bruce Allen on anything important.

    Al had no input those yrs. at all. Heck, he didn’t even hire Gruden…Ron Wolf did…or was it Wayne Valley?

  466. Raider O Says:

    The Big Banana Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 9:58 am
    They had Go Bucs billboards during our SB

    ———————-

    Seriously? You’d think you wouldn’t have to say this considering all the sun, beach, and beautiful ladies but….get a life.
    $$$$$$$$$

    We were talking about football. It’s a great place to live, but that has nothing to do with our conversation.
    You should take your own advice and get a life.

  467. The Big Banana Says:

    Lol. Raider O. Chill out, homie. I was saying that in the direction of whomever was responsible for those billboards.

  468. Raider O Says:

    LOL
    My bad.

  469. DJ Johnny Says:

    If I can find the link i’ll post it, but sometimes there are two sides to a story.

    Remember the infamous “incident” when Al supposedly came in the Raider lockerrom…dropped a towell and waited for someone to clean his shoes? The “real” story was it was a joke..a gag…

    Al had made a bet with one of the coaches about coverages or something and Al won the “bet”. Apparently Al said to the coach “If i’m right, you’re gonna shine my shoes after the game”.

    Hence…the “incident”.

  470. Raidernationdave Says:

    Ana got smoked 6-1, 6-0.

    http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/pr/subs/swimsuit/images/10_ana-ivanovic_02.jpg

  471. Raider O Says:

    I don’t like the beaches in SD especially PB. Get that seaweed off the beach.

  472. R8ER MIKE Says:

    GOOD MORNING/AFTERNOON NATION !!
    and my GreenParty brothers !!

  473. Raidernationdave Says:

    Gonna do my first skydive on the 20th with a bunch of folks from my HS. It’s reunion weekend in the Nard, good times comin’

  474. Raidernationdave Says:

    Miiiiiiiiiiiike! Whut up beyotch!

    +++++++++

    R8ER MIKE Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 10:16 am

    GOOD MORNING/AFTERNOON NATION !!
    and my GreenParty brothers !!

  475. Raider O Says:

    Long Live The ODB!

  476. Raidernationdave Says:

    DJJ don’t be a tool.

    +++++++++++++++++++

    DJ Johnny Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 10:00 am

    In school, Al paid others to take tests for him. He threatened Wayne Valley at knifepoint to steal interest in team.

    The three SB’s were exclusively Ron Wolf and the “comeback years” in late 90’s early 2000’s were all Gruden.

    You see, Al handed over the draft to Gruden and all the important decisions and Al deferred to Bruce Allen on anything important.

    Al had no input those yrs. at all. Heck, he didn’t even hire Gruden…Ron Wolf did…or was it Wayne Valley?

  477. DJ Johnny Says:

    Less than 4 wks. till training camp.

    Is Benson coming here or not?

  478. R8ER MIKE Says:

    what up hoe ?? and O !!!
    how was the weekend ??

  479. DJ Johnny Says:

    Raidernationdave Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 10:24 am
    DJJ don’t be a tool.

    +++++++++++++++++++

    You know I was kidding right?

  480. Raidernationdave Says:

    Good times and High Times forever!

  481. Method To My Madness Says:

    477.DJ Johnny Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 10:24 am
    Less than 4 wks. till training camp.

    Is Benson coming here or not?

    **************

    Let’s keep our fingers crossed

  482. Method To My Madness Says:

    481.Method To My Madness Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 10:27 am
    477.DJ Johnny Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 10:24 am
    Less than 4 wks. till training camp.

    Is Benson coming here or not?

    **************

    Let’s keep our fingers crossed
    **************

    meaning i hope he never comes to Napa

  483. DJ Johnny Says:

    I’m glad you clarified. Not much Benson love on the blog for sure.

  484. Raidernationdave Says:

    I didn’t. Thanx for the clarification. I though you was trippin’ for a second!

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    DJ Johnny Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 10:25 am

    Raidernationdave Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 10:24 am
    DJJ don’t be a tool.

    +++++++++++++++++++

    You know I was kidding right?

  485. Raider O Says:

    I don’t see the problem in giving Benson a 1 yr deal for the Vets min. We can always cut him before the regular season starts, if he we have better options or if he can’t play.

  486. Raidernationdave Says:

    A dude (A Sri Lankan that DJ’s hip-hop mind you) I work with told me this:

    A zebra dies and goes to Heaven. Zebra axes God, “Am I a white Zebra with black strips or a black Zebra with white stripes?”

    And God says…..

    “You is what you is.”

  487. Silverandblack666 Says:

    NO Benson!

    NO!

    NO!

  488. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    Raidernationdave Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 10:17 am
    Gonna do my first skydive on the 20th with a bunch of folks from my HS. It’s reunion weekend in the Nard, good times comin’
    —————–
    Just went zip lining, It was awesome. I’m not brave enough just yet to go sky diving. Have fun.

  489. DJ Johnny Says:

    Raidernationdave, I’m not saying Al was a guy who could never do no wrong…in fact, i think he made some real bad decisions especially toward the end…but I also don’t think he was Satan incarnate and everything he did was based on the evil inherent in his soul.

    Some guys refuse to give him ANY credit for ANYTHING…past or present.

    I’m not one of those guys.

  490. Raider O Says:

    Skydiving is too extreme for me at this age. I wanted to do it when I was younger (15-25), but I’m not welling to jump from an airplane for fun at my age.

  491. DJ Johnny Says:

    485.Raider O Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 10:33 am
    I don’t see the problem in giving Benson a 1 yr deal for the Vets min. We can always cut him before the regular season starts, if he we have better options or if he can’t play.

    I don’t think we can get him for that even if we wanted him.

  492. KoolKell Says:

    DJ Johnny Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 10:41 am
    Raidernationdave, I’m not saying Al was a guy who could never do no wrong…in fact, i think he made some real bad decisions especially toward the end…but I also don’t think he was Satan incarnate and everything he did was based on the evil inherent in his soul.

    Some guys refuse to give him ANY credit for ANYTHING…past or present.

    I’m not one of those guys.
    ————-_____
    I don’t think anybody thinks he was evil, except maybe MR.

  493. JR Says:

    Why the freak would rat in DC ship out JC to Oakland in order to replace him with a washed-up McNabb?

    Campbell very well could take the reins in Chi-town this year. It only takes one injury to rat’s other handpicked QB savior.

    Did you see how tight Shanny’s skin is stretched across his face these days? He has either been under the knife a few times, or is shriveling up due to old age.

    Let’s see what ratty guru can do with RG3.

  494. Method To My Madness Says:

    492.KoolKell Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 11:29 am
    DJ Johnny Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 10:41 am
    Raidernationdave, I’m not saying Al was a guy who could never do no wrong…in fact, i think he made some real bad decisions especially toward the end…but I also don’t think he was Satan incarnate and everything he did was based on the evil inherent in his soul.

    Some guys refuse to give him ANY credit for ANYTHING…past or present.

    I’m not one of those guys.
    ————-_____
    I don’t think anybody thinks he was evil, except maybe MR.

    *************

    Oh shut up…the way you lamblast Al even while he is buried in the ground is sickening man

    You even had the nerve to make fun of his last appearance we seen of Al after week 3 of the preseason vs the Saints….remember? You picked about his hat cover the oozing scabs? Dont act brand new to this…you’re total trash Kell of the most rancid variety

  495. Method To My Madness Says:

    493.JR Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 11:44 am
    Why the freak would rat in DC ship out JC to Oakland in order to replace him with a washed-up McNabb?

    Campbell very well could take the reins in Chi-town this year. It only takes one injury to rat’s other handpicked QB savior.

    Did you see how tight Shanny’s skin is stretched across his face these days? He has either been under the knife a few times, or is shriveling up due to old age.

    Let’s see what ratty guru can do with RG3.

    ************************

    RG3 will be ruined if shanny stays past this season

  496. Raidernationdave Says:

    OK, DJJ that’s cool. Look, I’m not a fan of a lot of what AD did with the team especially in his later “Crypt Keeper” days but did know a good football player when he saw one. The thing I’m sad for with AD’s legacy is JaBustus ‘The Walrus’ Russell.

    AD was always a fiery, controversial dude and fiery, controversial dude’s are even that way in death.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    DJ Johnny Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 10:41 am

    Raidernationdave, I’m not saying Al was a guy who could never do no wrong…in fact, i think he made some real bad decisions especially toward the end…but I also don’t think he was Satan incarnate and everything he did was based on the evil inherent in his soul.

    Some guys refuse to give him ANY credit for ANYTHING…past or present.

    I’m not one of those guys.

  497. KoolKell Says:

    There no personal animosity towards Al Davis. Just football, and winning on Sundays. If he had did that, I would have been fine with his leadership

  498. Raidernationdave Says:

    Shannarat is an idiot for drafting RGIII and Kirk Cousins and then telling everyone it won’t be a problem.

    +++++++++++++++++

    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 12:04 pm

    RG3 will be ruined if shanny stays past this season

  499. Raidernationdave Says:

    Every time I think about it my balls whind up in my throat but I don’t want be a puss, both my ex-wife and daughter have done it! I don’t wanna be the biatch!

    One of the guys jumping is a former paratrooper who’s seen time in Iraq with multiple tours so that’s cool he’s going. A dude I work with that used jump in the Army said the very first jump is a very surreal experience. I like surreal.

  500. Raidernationdave Says:

    Forgot to my “cut n’ paste”. I’m high.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Raidernationdave Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 12:36 pm

    Every time I think about it my balls whind up in my throat but I don’t want be a puss, both my ex-wife and daughter have done it! I don’t wanna be the biatch!

    One of the guys jumping is a former paratrooper who’s seen time in Iraq with multiple tours so that’s cool he’s going. A dude I work with that used jump in the Army said the very first jump is a very surreal experience. I like surreal.

    Raider O Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 10:44 am

    Skydiving is too extreme for me at this age. I wanted to do it when I was younger (15-25), but I’m not welling to jump from an airplane for fun at my age.

  501. R8ER MIKE Says:

    LMAO Dave !!

  502. Method To My Madness Says:

    497.KoolKell Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 12:24 pm
    There no personal animosity towards Al Davis. Just football, and winning on Sundays. If he had did that, I would have been fine with his leadership

    ************

    We dont believe you

  503. Method To My Madness Says:

    498.Raidernationdave Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 12:27 pm
    Shannarat is an idiot for drafting RGIII and Kirk Cousins and then telling everyone it won’t be a problem.

    +++++++++++++++++

    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 12:04 pm

    RG3 will be ruined if shanny stays past this season
    ************************

    Loser coach who cheated to get 2 SBs…denver has zero titles as far as I’m concerned

  504. Method To My Madness Says:

    http://bayarea.sbnation.com/golden-state-warriors/2012/7/2/3132469/golden-state-warriors-offseason-could-sign-jj-hickson-according-to-report
    ***************************************

    YES YES YES YES….time to Amnesty Lee or find a sucker in a trade….time to have some gritty tough defenders for our team…new day in the bay ara hoop scene

  505. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    Just rewatched the Raids and Vikes from last year. I couldn’t help but laugh every time Solomon Wilcots refered to one of our offensive players as a “weapon of mass destuction” lol Is that a line that Hue told him to use? lol

  506. raiderfankirk Says:

    Yes! Benson!
    Yes!
    Yes!

  507. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “YES YES YES YES….time to Amnesty Lee or find a sucker in a trade….time to have some gritty tough defenders for our team…new day in the bay ara hoop scene”

    I think I know what you are saying…..

  508. Method To My Madness Says:

    well Hickson isnt the best defender but i dont want Lee out there anymore…..not gonna work with Bogut

  509. raiderfankirk Says:

    Right now we only have two complete backs and one is a FB. Schmidt. Would love to see Taiwan be the other guy, but what’s wrong with the insurance. If I’m building a team I gotta have two Hb’s I know that can pass protect. Not saying I’m right, IMO. Benson >Bush. Football and contract.

  510. KoolKell Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 1:00 pm

    497.KoolKell Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 12:24 pm

    There no personal animosity towards Al Davis. Just football, and winning on Sundays. If he had did that, I would have been fine with his leadership

    ************

    We dont believe you
    ———————————-
    Who cares what you believe, you Bootlicking dumbass. Geez.

  511. The Big Banana Says:

    Anyone here have parking passes to go with their season tix? Are they worthwhile? Any savings involved with getting a pass?

  512. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Party sure died out..

  513. Plunketthead Says:

    503.Method To My Madness Says:

    Loser coach who cheated to get 2 SBs…denver has zero titles as far as I’m concerned
    ________+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Bigtime loser who would be holding a clipboard for Hue Jackson if the mules had not stole Elway and scatrat almost screwed that up

  514. theghostronin79 Says:

    Been crickets all day DAV……sheesh….No fun.

  515. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    So Joe Johnson aka the most untradeable contract in the NBA just got traded.

  516. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Anthony Morrow, Jordan Farmar, Jordan Williams, Johan Petro, Deshawn Stevenson & 2013 1st round pick

    for

    Joe Johnson

  517. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Rashard Lewis & Joe Johnson traded in the same off-season..lol..

    NO CONTRACT IS UNTRADEABLE.

  518. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Nets banking on

    PG – Deron Williams
    SG – Joe Johnson / Marshon Brooks
    SF – Gerald Wallace
    PF – Vacant
    C – Vacant

  519. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Dwight Coward is also screwed.

    Now the Nets dont have any $ to give him next season

  520. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    The Atlanta Hawks will now have 2 of Dwight Howards best friends, Anthony Morrow & Josh Smith.

    They also will have lots of $ next off-season.

    Dwight is from Atlanta. Well played Atlanta. Well played.

  521. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Farmar will be bought out.

    Lakers seem like his landing spot.

  522. Method To My Madness Says:

    510.KoolKell Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 1:53 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 1:00 pm

    497.KoolKell Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 12:24 pm

    There no personal animosity towards Al Davis. Just football, and winning on Sundays. If he had did that, I would have been fine with his leadership

    ************

    We dont believe you
    ———————————-
    Who cares what you believe, you Bootlicking dumbass. Geez.

    ******************

    Alot do Kell as well your punk ass…you live for this blog and especially live to comment on my posts…its why you are up late into night shooting off drunken posts about nothing

  523. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Nets planning on this lineup:

    Deron Williams / Jason Kidd
    Joe Johnson / Marsho Brooks
    Gerald Wallace / Gerald Green

    Brook Lopez

  524. Method To My Madness Says:

    Howard does suck…good draft Orlando getting Nicholson and OQuinn…long guys who can defend and score….screw Howard…those two twin towers will do some damage and really take a leap when Shaq buys them!

  525. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    HEY CORKRAN, JERRYMAC, AND BECKER WTF? OVER!

    Your competition is kicking your ass again, in reporting what little Raider news there is during these dog days off the off season.

    1.) Al’s friends getting together in Vegas, for a memorial on the 4th.

    2.) Date for supplemental draft date announced.

    3.) Emperor Goodell’s letter to all 32 teams, outlining all the red tape needed to get through IF you want to relocate to LA…

    I’m sure there is more stories other than the one I listed..

    WAKE THE UFCK UP!……

  526. Method To My Madness Says:

    523.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 2:48 pm
    Nets planning on this lineup:

    Deron Williams / Jason Kidd
    Joe Johnson / Marsho Brooks
    Gerald Wallace / Gerald Green

    Brook Lopez

    ************

    No Kris Humphries?

  527. Method To My Madness Says:

    525.909RaiderLifer Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 2:49 pm
    HEY CORKRAN, JERRYMAC, AND BECKER WTF? OVER!

    Your competition is kicking your ass again, in reporting what little Raider news there is during these dog days off the off season.

    1.) Al’s friends getting together in Vegas, for a memorial on the 4th.

    2.) Date for supplemental draft date announced.

    3.) Emperor Goodell’s letter to all 32 teams, outlining all the red tape needed to get through IF you want to relocate to LA…

    I’m sure there is more stories other than the one I listed..

    WAKE THE UFCK UP!……

    *************

    LMAO…Inland Empire champion always killing

  528. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 2:48 pm
    Howard does suck…good draft Orlando getting Nicholson and OQuinn…long guys who can defend and score….screw Howard…those two twin towers will do some damage and really take a leap when Shaq buys them!

    —-

    Word.

    Hennigan impressed me with his 1st draft.

    Now if we can get Lowry/Scola/Martin from Rockets, im good.

  529. theghostronin79 Says:

    You crack me up Method

  530. Method To My Madness Says:

    520.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 2:27 pm
    The Atlanta Hawks will now have 2 of Dwight Howards best friends, Anthony Morrow & Josh Smith.

    They also will have lots of $ next off-season.

    Dwight is from Atlanta. Well played Atlanta. Well played.

    **********

    So he can still stay being the lovable southern smiling step n fetch it clown fool as before…..yeah that will work out lol

  531. Method To My Madness Says:

    529.theghostronin79 Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 2:51 pm
    You crack me up Method

    ***********

    LOL i try

  532. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 2:50 pm
    523.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 2:48 pm
    Nets planning on this lineup:

    Deron Williams / Jason Kidd
    Joe Johnson / Marsho Brooks
    Gerald Wallace / Gerald Green

    Brook Lopez

    ************

    No Kris Humphries?

    —-

    Last I heard he priced himself out of Brooklyn..

    Illyosova is who Id go after if I were the Nets. 3/4 who can do it all.

  533. Method To My Madness Says:

    JULY<—–worse sports month of year

  534. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    **ARE** more stories. Dohhhh!…

  535. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 2:51 pm
    520.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 2:27 pm
    The Atlanta Hawks will now have 2 of Dwight Howards best friends, Anthony Morrow & Josh Smith.

    They also will have lots of $ next off-season.

    Dwight is from Atlanta. Well played Atlanta. Well played.

    **********

    So he can still stay being the lovable southern smiling step n fetch it clown fool as before…..yeah that will work out lol

    —-

    Exactly.

  536. Method To My Madness Says:

    532.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 2:52 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 2:50 pm
    523.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 2:48 pm
    Nets planning on this lineup:

    Deron Williams / Jason Kidd
    Joe Johnson / Marsho Brooks
    Gerald Wallace / Gerald Green

    Brook Lopez

    ************

    No Kris Humphries?

    —-

    Last I heard he priced himself out of Brooklyn..

    Illyosova is who Id go after if I were the Nets. 3/4 who can do it all.

    **********

    So where does Dumbphries land?…i’ll take him in Oakland

  537. theghostronin79 Says:

    I thought about emailing that “DJ” the other day. Gonna ask if he wanted to come to Napa Marriot with me and get some players to sign our cranks…..Or sneak into equipment room and sniff some jock straps….. Then the Feds would be all over me…BAWWW HAHH HAA

  538. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 2:53 pm
    532.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 2:52 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 2:50 pm
    523.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 2:48 pm
    Nets planning on this lineup:

    Deron Williams / Jason Kidd
    Joe Johnson / Marsho Brooks
    Gerald Wallace / Gerald Green

    Brook Lopez

    ************

    No Kris Humphries?

    —-

    Last I heard he priced himself out of Brooklyn..

    Illyosova is who Id go after if I were the Nets. 3/4 who can do it all.

    **********

    So where does Dumbphries land?…i’ll take him in Oakland

    —-

    Id take him over Lee & Hickson thats for sure.

    But I have no clue where Kris is looking..

    I wonder if AK47 would be interested in the W’s..

  539. Method To My Madness Says:

    B@uce<—-would rather be in Orlando,FL than Atlanta overrated ass Georgia anyday

  540. Method To My Madness Says:

    538.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 2:55 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 2:53 pm
    532.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 2:52 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 2:50 pm
    523.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 2:48 pm
    Nets planning on this lineup:

    Deron Williams / Jason Kidd
    Joe Johnson / Marsho Brooks
    Gerald Wallace / Gerald Green

    Brook Lopez

    ************

    No Kris Humphries?

    —-

    Last I heard he priced himself out of Brooklyn..

    Illyosova is who Id go after if I were the Nets. 3/4 who can do it all.

    **********

    So where does Dumbphries land?…i’ll take him in Oakland

    —-

    Id take him over Lee & Hickson thats for sure.

    But I have no clue where Kris is looking..

    I wonder if AK47 would be interested in the W’s..

    *******************

    Woooooooooooo Ak47 would be a great player to add…he can play defense plus he has all around game with awesome haircuts to boot

  541. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Guys Im going after if im a GM:

    Kirk Heinrich
    Andrei Kirilenko
    Ersan Ilyasova

  542. Method To My Madness Says:

    541.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 2:58 pm
    Guys Im going after if im a GM:

    Kirk Heinrich
    Andrei Kirilenko
    Ersan Ilyasova

    ***********************

    Hell yeah to Hinrich as backup to Curry…ive always liked him since college…you can see he was a pro…funny he is last white american i think to make all nba defense…..hell good enough for me!

  543. RaiderDuck Says:

    The NFL Supplemental Draft will be July 12. Anybody think Reggie should maybe put a 7th-round bid on Carson-Newman LB Larry Lumpkin? He had 94 tackles last season, and hit double-digits in Tackles for Loss.

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/rob-rang/19464355/eight-prospects-eligible-for-nfl-supplemental-draft

  544. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    Jeez man I can’t type for schmeet today. Not that I ever was good at it…

    Hey Bri3n! Still keepin things loose here, I see. The 29th. can’t get here soon enough..

  545. theghostronin79 Says:

    Nope, we got no material that hasn’t been beaten to death. Just rehashing last years stuff.

  546. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    The Knicks want a sign & trade with the Suns for Nash.

    Nash for Fields, Douglas, Gadzuric, Picks.

    Makes no sense for the Suns.

  547. The Big Banana Says:

    3 Niners made sportsline’s top 10 players to regress next year. Hope so. Have a bet with the neighbor.

  548. Method To My Madness Says:

    544.909RaiderLifer Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 3:08 pm
    Jeez man I can’t type for schmeet today. Not that I ever was good at it…

    Hey Bri3n! Still keepin things loose here, I see. The 29th. can’t get here soon enough..

    *****************

    yeah man…schit damn all days in between..its football time dammit!

  549. Method To My Madness Says:

    546.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 3:12 pm
    The Knicks want a sign & trade with the Suns for Nash.

    Nash for Fields, Douglas, Gadzuric, Picks.

    Makes no sense for the Suns.

    *******************

    what? knicks are fools

  550. Method To My Madness Says:

    547.The Big Banana Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 3:13 pm
    3 Niners made sportsline’s top 10 players to regress next year. Hope so. Have a bet with the neighbor.

    ******************

    aw schit really? loves it

  551. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Have to wonder what the landscape of the NBA would look like right now if the CP3 to Lakers deal actually went through..

  552. theghostronin79 Says:

    At least we’re “IN” the month that camp starts….just a few weeks away. Once camp gets goin, it’s ON….Preseason baby, Gitter gitter.

  553. Method To My Madness Says:

    551.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 3:20 pm
    Have to wonder what the landscape of the NBA would look like right now if the CP3 to Lakers deal actually went through..

    *************************

    Lakers still wouldnt be a title team lol…but LA Live loses a few bucks becuz clippers wouldnt have been as good

  554. The Big Banana Says:

    Loser flies the other team’s flag from front of house. Schit, I hope I don’t lose.

  555. Method To My Madness Says:

    552.theghostronin79 Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 3:20 pm
    At least we’re “IN” the month that camp starts….just a few weeks away. Once camp gets goin, it’s ON….Preseason baby, Gitter gitter.

    **************

    yeah man…once that jumps off everything will be everything my bruh

  556. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Im literally laughin out loud at Dwight Howard right now.

    Rob Hennigan basically squashed his little Brooklyn dream.

    Nets officials were ‘baffled’ Hennigan refused to work on a trade..lol.

    So they had to move on.

  557. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    In 13-14 Joe Johnson will make 25 million dollars.

    Let that sink in.

    He cant be amnestied. He will see it all.

  558. Method To My Madness Says:

    556.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 3:27 pm
    Im literally laughin out loud at Dwight Howard right now.

    Rob Hennigan basically squashed his little Brooklyn dream.

    Nets officials were ‘baffled’ Hennigan refused to work on a trade..lol.

    So they had to move on.
    *****

    I’m a hater on Dwight so i definitely am with you on this

  559. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    If Hennigan can get Evan Turner & Iguodala from the Sixers.. Me rikey.

    And its not looking to far fetched either.

  560. Method To My Madness Says:

    557.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 3:28 pm
    In 13-14 Joe Johnson will make 25 million dollars.

    Let that sink in.

    He cant be amnestied. He will see it all.

    *************

    25 large for him?

  561. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    W’s front runner to get JJ Hickson at this point.

  562. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 3:31 pm
    557.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 3:28 pm
    In 13-14 Joe Johnson will make 25 million dollars.

    Let that sink in.

    He cant be amnestied. He will see it all.

    *************

    25 large for him?

    —-

    That’s why he was considered un-tradeable..

  563. Method To My Madness Says:

    561.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 3:32 pm
    W’s front runner to get JJ Hickson at this point.

    ****************

    I’ll take him…i dont like david lee…he avg 20 and 9 but doesnt make a real fking difference since he gives up 30 pts on defense consistently

  564. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 3:33 pm
    561.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 3:32 pm
    W’s front runner to get JJ Hickson at this point.

    ****************

    I’ll take him…i dont like david lee…he avg 20 and 9 but doesnt make a real fking difference since he gives up 30 pts on defense consistently

    —-

    If you cut Lee’s contract in half he is gold.

    Fantasy Basketball star at this point.

  565. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    If Amare Stoudemire ever gets traded I will faint..

    lol..

  566. Method To My Madness Says:

    564.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 3:34 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 3:33 pm
    561.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 3:32 pm
    W’s front runner to get JJ Hickson at this point.

    ****************

    I’ll take him…i dont like david lee…he avg 20 and 9 but doesnt make a real fking difference since he gives up 30 pts on defense consistently

    —-

    If you cut Lee’s contract in half he is gold.

    Fantasy Basketball star at this point.

    **************************

    Yeah not a winning player…hickson defense needs to step up but at PF he is a difference maker with Bogut on the floor

  567. Method To My Madness Says:

    565.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 3:35 pm
    If Amare Stoudemire ever gets traded I will faint..

    lol..

    **************

    He dont wanna play with Melo….schit I’ll take him in Oakland lol…he is a real PF who can also hit a 15-18ft jumper and play above thge rim

  568. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    The W’s will make noise this year.

    Curry
    Klay
    Barnes
    Lee/Hickson
    Bogut

    Need a wing defender and a big.. Kwame?.. :)

  569. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 3:37 pm
    565.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 3:35 pm
    If Amare Stoudemire ever gets traded I will faint..

    lol..

    **************

    He dont wanna play with Melo….schit I’ll take him in Oakland lol…he is a real PF who can also hit a 15-18ft jumper and play above thge rim

    —-

    He is Antonio McDyess 2.0 at this point.

    Hasnt played above the rim much the past 2 years.. Settles for jumpers. No defense.

    ESPN highlights of blocks makes it seem like he can play D.

    HUGE contract with NO INSURANCE due to knees..

  570. Method To My Madness Says:

    569.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 3:39 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 3:37 pm
    565.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 3:35 pm
    If Amare Stoudemire ever gets traded I will faint..

    lol..

    **************

    He dont wanna play with Melo….schit I’ll take him in Oakland lol…he is a real PF who can also hit a 15-18ft jumper and play above thge rim

    —-

    He is Antonio McDyess 2.0 at this point.

    Hasnt played above the rim much the past 2 years.. Settles for jumpers. No defense.

    ESPN highlights of blocks makes it seem like he can play D.

    HUGE contract with NO INSURANCE due to knees..

    *************

    And still makes the warriors much better

  571. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Who would you rather have in deal for Dwight Howard, Bynum or Horford?

    Prominent GM:

    “Horford, at least you know he is gonna play every night”

  572. Method To My Madness Says:

    568.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 3:38 pm
    The W’s will make noise this year.

    Curry
    Klay
    Barnes
    Lee/Hickson
    Bogut

    Need a wing defender and a big.. Kwame?..
    **************************

    Dominic McGuire should be brought back to backup Barnes….we drafted Festus Ezeli 6′11 260 lbs as backup center and he was personally picked by Jerry West

    Yes Oracle Arena shall be off the hook this year…..Klay Thompson bout to surprise many but not me

  573. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 3:41 pm
    569.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 3:39 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 3:37 pm
    565.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 3:35 pm
    If Amare Stoudemire ever gets traded I will faint..

    lol..

    **************

    He dont wanna play with Melo….schit I’ll take him in Oakland lol…he is a real PF who can also hit a 15-18ft jumper and play above thge rim

    —-

    He is Antonio McDyess 2.0 at this point.

    Hasnt played above the rim much the past 2 years.. Settles for jumpers. No defense.

    ESPN highlights of blocks makes it seem like he can play D.

    HUGE contract with NO INSURANCE due to knees..

    *************

    And still makes the warriors much better

    —-

    Hickson can provide anything Stat can at this point, and for a whole lot cheaper.

  574. Method To My Madness Says:

    571.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 3:42 pm
    Who would you rather have in deal for Dwight Howard, Bynum or Horford?

    Prominent GM:

    “Horford, at least you know he is gonna play every night”

    *****************

    HaHAHA lol…ouch

  575. Method To My Madness Says:

    573.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 3:43 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 3:41 pm
    569.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 3:39 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 3:37 pm
    565.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 3:35 pm
    If Amare Stoudemire ever gets traded I will faint..

    lol..

    **************

    He dont wanna play with Melo….schit I’ll take him in Oakland lol…he is a real PF who can also hit a 15-18ft jumper and play above thge rim

    —-

    He is Antonio McDyess 2.0 at this point.

    Hasnt played above the rim much the past 2 years.. Settles for jumpers. No defense.

    ESPN highlights of blocks makes it seem like he can play D.

    HUGE contract with NO INSURANCE due to knees..

    *************

    And still makes the warriors much better

    —-

    Hickson can provide anything Stat can at this point, and for a whole lot cheaper.

    *************

    I’ll take hickson hell illl take Amare…just sick of looking at David Lee

  576. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Well, im out fellas.

    See you in the morning..

    Deuces..

  577. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    before I go.. funny tweet from fake Nets owner account:

    gotta say it in a Russian accent..

    “If you are good with basketball and have interest in play with this Joe Johnson, Nets are have tryout for fans to fill roster”..

    lol

  578. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Did we trade DMAC yet?

  579. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Nets trade for rights to Michael Cage…

  580. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    zzzzzzzzzz…

  581. SR Raider Says:

    581st! woohoo

  582. Violent Hands Says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSe7d0t_XKo

  583. fingers Says:

    Raider times coming…….

  584. xraided Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 3:44 pm
    573.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 3:43 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 3:41 pm
    569.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 3:39 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 3:37 pm
    565.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 3:35 pm
    If Amare Stoudemire ever gets traded I will faint..

    lol..

    **************

    He dont wanna play with Melo….schit I’ll take him in Oakland lol…he is a real PF who can also hit a 15-18ft jumper and play above thge rim

    —-

    He is Antonio McDyess 2.0 at this point.

    Hasnt played above the rim much the past 2 years.. Settles for jumpers. No defense.

    ESPN highlights of blocks makes it seem like he can play D.

    HUGE contract with NO INSURANCE due to knees..

    *************

    And still makes the warriors much better

    —-

    Hickson can provide anything Stat can at this point, and for a whole lot cheaper.

    *************

    I’ll take hickson hell illl take Amare…just sick of looking at David Lee

    __________________________________

    if they could swing hickson, he would solidfy the bench at very least .. i could see him starting over Barnes… it’s the same with Azeli backing up Bogut… let the new beasty draft class sit behind the starters.. then when the dead weight contracts are up, these will be the guys to hopefully replace a few guys like Lee and Bogut …

    and to me, the biggest hurtle for this ballclub is the same as the THE OTHER TWO TEAMS 50-FT AWAY FROM THEM ARENA–there’s currently a great core of players on all 3 teams, yet they CANNOT EVER STAY HEALTHY in and year out–that’s the first thing both Raiders and W’s need to overcome this upcoming season. if this can finally be achieved, then we really have something here.

  585. Just Fire Baby Says:

    The biggest issue for the Dubs is their inability to guard ANYONE on the perimeter.

    Our PG defense is beyond awful, so teams either run ISO up top on our PG, or some type of pick-and-roll, and our defense just breaks down immediately.

    Guys are rotating over to pick up help, and some guy is either wide open in the corner or breaks free on the baseline. And it also leads to guys out of position to finish the defensive possession and grab the board.

    Until we fix this, we will continue to be on the wrong side of .500

  586. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Pretty slick play from Pennington there……

  587. xraided Says:

    yea there’s a bunch of bench players that could play D for us when we have to.. plus i think Bogut’s stellar D will help a lot in the paint .. even last year we kept many games throughout the year VERY close, and we owned the Lakers time and time again … and that’s a playoff team.

    with this current team healthy, they could make some noise on defense and score A LOT of points..

    with that said, Jackson better improve defense at both our Guard positions, or life will definitely be hard on Bogut and he’ll just foul out every game… then we have Beistench 2.0

  588. FEATURED ARTICLE: Raiders live chat coming up Tuesday at noon | Raiders Central | Oakland Raiders Blog Says:

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  589. xraided Says:

    yea Pennington’s D is solid … that’s about it.. sick of suzuki as well

  590. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Agreed that Bogut will help, but also agree that if you are continually letting guards keep their dribble alive 10 feet from the tin, he will be in foul trouble more often than not.

  591. KoolKell Says:

    Guys are breaking Curry’s ankles every game.

  592. Raidernationdave Says:

    Everybody warmin’ up for Stevie boy manana? Got all you questions lined up? I wonder if a lot of his answers will be, “I don’t know I’ve been on vacation.”

  593. Missus Beeecham Says:

    Whem me and my girlfriend aren’t droppin dueces and namin little masters, we entertaining guests and serving Gallo wine. Got 8 gallons of gallo in the cellar. We ain’t got nothin to hide, we let it all out.

  594. xraided Says:

    Kell, not necessarily … he lands wrong more often than getting stepped on. that’s why Myers and West are pinning their hopes on he and Bogut to be over their “freak” accidents and are 100% healed… that way they will give them at 85% of the season each… that’s the hope anyway.

  595. xraided Says:

    JFB, yea can’t give up easy lanes. i know people dog Lee’s defense, but i’ve seen him clog up lanes, forcing outside shots .. i’m tellin ya.. everyone is up to Bogut to run the defense properly… it relieves pressure off Lee and he snags rebounds like no one’s business.

    Hickson would be a very welcomed addition. i say use everything on him or maybe they could just backload two contracts for Brandon and Hickson. that would be solid because “IF” Roy stayed healthy, he’s a good defender and would be great off the bench.

  596. DJ Johnny Says:

    U guys are talkin’ basketball?

    Ok.

  597. DJ Johnny Says:

    583.fingers Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 6:22 pm
    Raider times coming…….

    I love fingers..he hops on with a positive little blurb and moves on.

    Viva La Fingers.

  598. xraided Says:

    why not … dead time for football … pretty sure we’ve covered everything .. can’t say much more without them actually hitting each other… it’s actually exciting in Warrior land for the first time in a while. they got a revamped ownership/GM/Staff overhaul as well like the Raiders. positive vibes all around!

  599. xraided Says:

    BTW, they had not better trade everyone for a rental D12 … i will literally never watch them a again because there’s NO WAY they’d keep him after the 1 year. he wants to be a JayZ guy … and become a billionaire in the process… that’s why Howard will only sign a long term deal with them.

  600. DJ Johnny Says:

    It’s all good.

    Better than politics.

  601. xraided Says:

    yea really though .. FREE HEALTH CARE RULES .. oops did i spark it?

  602. blackandsilverside Says:

    xraided Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 9:54 pm
    yea really though .. FREE HEALTH CARE RULES .. oops did i spark it?
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    ditto that Xraided

  603. DJ Johnny Says:

    How come head coaches in the NFL don’t wear suits with ties anymore?

    Madden used to wear a tie…Hank Stram, Tom Landry…

    File this in the “who gives a crap” section.

  604. blackandsilverside Says:

    Conservative block of the Supreme Court had Justice Roberts fall on his for this decision:

    I can hear them all huddled up:

    “Okay boys, now we stole the election in Florida in the year 2000 and gave it to GW. Since then almost every decision has gone against the people. We passed America United so that SuperPacs can raise as much money as they they can from the plutocracy running this country, with no disclosure whatsoever.

    We need to break the peasants off something and health care might as well be it.

    Hopefully Mitty will be elected and we can throw democracy down the tubes, stage all out war 365 24/7, steal mainstreet’s money, while creating plenty of jobs…in China. And none of us will have to ever pay taxes again.

    So we’ll give them this, and then we can wring every last penny out of them. Afterall, we wouldn’t want to see them riot in the street; we may lose out jobs too.”

  605. Bad News Dude Says:

    DJ Johnny Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 10:29 pm

    How come head coaches in the NFL don’t wear suits with ties anymore?

    Madden used to wear a tie…Hank Stram, Tom Landry…

    File this in the “who gives a crap” section.

    ……………….

    Because it’s uncomfortable as $hit and they probably felt it created a barrier between coach and players.

    When Nolan did it, he looked removed from the rest of the team somehow.

  606. blackandsilverside Says:

    fall on his sword*** for this one….

  607. blackandsilverside Says:

    DJ,

    Coaches should wear suit and ties at game time. Look at Belichick; he’s a slob.

  608. Bad News Dude Says:

    blackandsilverside Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 10:36 pm

    DJ,

    Coaches should wear suit and ties at game time. Look at Belichick; he’s a slob.

    …..

    Dam, so true. Bill looks like yesterday’s trash.

  609. blackandsilverside Says:

    Bet he smells bad too, especially that scraggly hair.

  610. DJ Johnny Says:

    592.Raidernationdave Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 8:50 pm
    Everybody warmin’ up for Stevie boy manana? Got all you questions lined up? I wonder if a lot of his answers will be, “I don’t know I’ve been on vacation.”

    This will most likely be the most boring chat in the history of chats.

    Thery’ll be the obligatory kiss up to Cork followed by a mundane ? that has been answered a milion times already. Something like… “Hey Cork. You do a great job with the chats. Do you think Raiders run the 4-3 or the 3-4 this yr.?” Cork will respond with “They will run multiple schemes according to DA and Tarver”.

    Then he’ll say “Ok guys, thanks for joining me, bye.”

  611. DJ Johnny Says:

    …wait. Thery’ll be TWO questions. The other one will be: “Hey Cork. Thanks for everything you do. Do you think Raiders sign Cedric Benson”?

    Cork will respond “Not sure. There was a report that the Raiders are looking at him but I haven’t heard anything that’s been verified”.

    THEN he’ll say; “Thanks guys.”

  612. blackandsilverside Says:

    DJ,

    It will be the most boring chat in history. I think I will just put this blog in mothballs until our first pre-season game. Really, it’s a waste of time till then.

  613. Missus Beeecham Says:

    Ususally dudes smell bad cuz they carryin a duece in the drawers. I know cuz I had a dude who stank all the time til one day we was at taco bell and my girlfriend ate a dozen tacos, talk about a duecer, momma. When we have guest over for wine and entertainment, sometime I break out the mad train ‘guarenteed headache’ wine, so we have a lot of folks sleepin on the floor. We ain’t got nothin to hide. We don’t embarass easily, if at all.

    HOLLA FO THE WINE FO A DOLLA MUZZLE GUZZLE

  614. Missus Beeecham Says:

    My girlfriend really likes dudes that smell bad, thats why I dont bath often, if ever.

  615. DJ Johnny Says:

    I forgot that Nolan wore the shirt and tie. He’s gotta be the last of the mohicans on that one.

    You guys are right about Belichik. That does look ike some stinky, greasy hair; but for some reason he has the rep as a womanizer who gets all the ladies.

  616. DJ Johnny Says:

    612.blackandsilverside Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 10:46 pm
    DJ,

    It will be the most boring chat in history. I think I will just put this blog in mothballs until our first pre-season game. Really, it’s a waste of time till then.

    That’s not a bad idea. I remember when I used to able to tune football out in the offseason after the SB. I’d follow the draft and look forward to fun surprises from Al…..big FA pickups etc. but then tune it out till the first preseason game would all of a sudden sneak up on me and i’d be like “wow…football’s back…cool”. Then the 1st preseason game i’d see SF beating us 55-6 or something and get demoralized until we’d beat Arizona 15-14…THEN i’d be back with high hopes.

  617. . Says:

    Man, it is slowsville in here tonight. :cool: I can here the crickets chirpin and the rats pitter-patting thru the kitchen. Screech owls are a screechin and hoot owls are a hootin. And off in the distance a lonely coyote is yippin.

  618. ~ Says:

    testing 1 2 3 4

  619. DJ Johnny Says:

    …actually we never played SF in the 1st preseason game did we?

    Anyway, baseball used to take alot of my interest up so that I could football on the backburner but last few yrs. it’s been football 365 days a year basically.

    I don’t think i’m the only one, as evidenced by the popularity of NFL Network for instance..even in offseason.

    NFL has taken over the sports world big time.

    I’d bet that soon a preseason game featuring Tebow against Aaron Rodgers for instance (if only for a quarter) will pull better numbers than a World Series game.

  620. Bad News Dude Says:

    I’m the same way, DJ. Used to be interested in baseball. Not so much now.

  621. Says:

    test 1 2 3 and 4

  622. Says:

    test

  623. sloppy joe beene Says:

    It’s been great. Catch you all in the A.M.

  624. DJ Johnny Says:

    Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 11:03 pm
    Man, it is slowsville in here tonight. I can here the crickets chirpin and the rats pitter-patting thru the kitchen. Screech owls are a screechin and hoot owls are a hootin. And off in the distance a lonely coyote is yippin.

    Lol. Good stuff.

  625. HayesDaze37 Says:

    It’s a great summer to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?!

    C’mon Jer…Cork?

    I’ve been in the mountains and on the ocean so far this summer…out of internet and phone coverage a number of times…and then I check in here.

    Where’s all the (any) news??

    There’s got to be something going on, even in the summer. Yeah, yeah, yeah…you guys were humping during minicamp. But, ummm…that was a vacation ago.

    There’s got to be some trivia, or Player bios, or something else Raiders-related that can be written or reported on.

    You guys are awesome when you’re on…but, unless you’re working as school teachers, I don’t think you should be taking the summer off (the tea-baggers in here would agree with that statement).

    C’mon, Jer/Cork — Give us something Raiders/sports-related to discuss in here. Puh-leeeze.

    Something like this maybe:

    BLACKOUT POLICY RELAXED!!

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/eye-on-football/19464104/nfl-relaxes-local-blackout-rules-for-2012-season

  626. DJ Johnny Says:

    Bad News, it’s tuff to stay riveted to commentary like: “You see he’s trying to stay ahead of hitters with his slider. He’s throwing second pitch curveballs against lefties and he’s working the zone in on right handed hitters. You see as we go thru the pitch sequence of the last 15 hitters, that his knuckleball is working a bit outside when he’s getting behind on batters when there’s less than two outs and the score is either tied or there’s someone on base and it’s past the 7th inning or before the 5th inning if the batter before him draws a walk”.

    Ok. I just bored myself to sleep.

  627. Raider O Says:

    Good morning nation.

  628. R8ER MIKE Says:

    GOOD MORNING NATION !!
    and my GreenParty brothers !!

  629. DJ Johnny Says:

    Wow. This is the slowest i’ve seen it in here in a long time.

    Mornin’ everybody.

  630. SR Raider Says:

    No news is good news this time of year. Studying the playbook and preparing for the season is what’s up. It’s exciting to think that some players are improving rapidly right now and will come to camp ready to go. Others are firing up the BBQ

  631. SR Raider Says:

    Btw great news with the blackout policy. Good job NFL

  632. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    ??

  633. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    Maybe Cork can do a story on how Loius Murphy’s sex life is going lol

  634. jesusraiderjim Says:

    What up nation? Just wanted it to be official that I found my Nation Brothers. Where is the rest of the Semis? Gonna go read about the Nfl blackout news. Later.

  635. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Janikowski’s four-year, $16 million contract carries $9 million in guarantees.

    02/17/2010

    ***

    Matt Prater Contract: Broncos Kicker signs 4-year deal for $13 Million With $3 Million Bonus

    dang, restructure Seabass!

  636. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Dwight Howard and maybe Hedo Turkoglu to Brooklyn for Brook Lopez, Kris Humphries, MarShon Brooks and some first round picks

    http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/03/dwight-howard-to-nets-it-can-happen-but-is-it-likely/

  637. realtruraider Says:

    Dwight Howard is a Raider fan? I just saw a clip of that fool on ESPN and he was wearing a Raider hat. Where is he from?

  638. DEATHROW 55 Says:

    The nets will be like the Knicks big names but no chemistry, lol. Howard is a loser and I am curious how his back will feal jumping and landing night in night out. Glad the lakeshow didn’t trade Bynum for his biccyhhh azz.

  639. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Dwight Howard is from ATL

    …surprised he doesn’t want to be a Hawk!

  640. RaiderRockstar Says:

    How Nets could deal for Dwight Howard (UPDATED)

    http://nba-point-forward.si.com/2012/07/03/nets-magic-dwight-howard/

  641. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    Rockstar, since it is a slow time with Raider news I have to ask if you’ve done any fishing or spear fishing?
    I just got the biggest perch of my life.

  642. RaiderRockstar Says:

    67 minutes until the Live Chat. will it be as dead as this blog??

    If so, i’m finally gonna get some questions answered. woohoo!

  643. RaiderRockstar Says:

    spear fishing?

    ***

    is this the same as fish gigging?

    If so, you can only do it at night during the winter months with a boat & flashlight.

    I have only been once, but it was a blast!

    frog gigging opened 07/01. I’m going out this friday night with 10 or 12 redneck buddies from church

  644. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 3rd, 2012 at 10:56 am
    spear fishing?

    ***

    is this the same as fish gigging?

    If so, you can only do it at night during the winter months with a boat & flashlight.

    I have only been once, but it was a blast!

    frog gigging opened 07/01. I’m going out this friday night with 10 or 12 redneck buddies from church
    ————–
    yeah, it’s the same as gigging. I still haven’t tried it. Look foward to it though. I want to eat fried frog legs.

    Hopefully in the next week I will learn how to shoot my new muzzleloader.

  645. RaiderRockstar Says:

    we fish for perch, but only to use as bait for trot lines & limb lines to catch bigger catfish.

    I like to use live black perch or dead minnows (salted)

    don’t know the technical term for fishing for perch like we do. we just call it “perch jerkin”

    lol

  646. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 3rd, 2012 at 10:59 am
    we fish for perch, but only to use as bait for trot lines & limb lines to catch bigger catfish.

    I like to use live black perch or dead minnows (salted)

    don’t know the technical term for fishing for perch like we do. we just call it “perch jerkin”

    lol
    ——————-
    If your using perch for bait, those catfish must be large!

    I’ve never seen a black perch. We usually fish for yellow and white perch. they are delicious!

    I’m hoping my family and I spend a good portion of the holiday trying for bass at a local pond. I’m teaching my 4 year old girl how to fish, she is doing great, quite fearless!

  647. SouthTexasRaider Says:

    R.I.P.
    Jim Morrison
    a.k.a. Mr. MojoRisin, Lizard King

    hopefully i can post, havent been able to post for weeks and i dont even know what i said for that to happen. talk about some bullschit!

    RAIDER FAHQIN NATION BABY!

  648. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I’m teaching my 4 year old girl how to fish, she is doing great, quite fearless!

    ***

    Congrats man. family time = priceless

    cant wait until my 19 month old boy gets a little older and I can take him on outdoor adventures as well

  649. RaiderRockstar Says:

    @STR

    is that the dude that sings “Brown Eyed Girl” ??

  650. DKnight007 Says:

    485.Raider O Says:
    July 2nd, 2012 at 10:33 am
    I don’t see the problem in giving Benson a 1 yr deal for the Vets min. We can always cut him before the regular season starts, if he we have better options or if he can’t play.

    ^^^^^^^
    Exactly. I would still like to see another vet MLB added to the roster as well.

  651. jesusraiderjim Says:

    RRS I’m pretty sure Van Morrison sings “Brown Eyed Girl” do not know about that other dude.

  652. jesusraiderjim Says:

    I do know about him let me regress he was the Doors lead man but I do not know why Str brought it up. Probably having some kinda flashback LOL

  653. RaiderRockstar Says:

    he was the Doors lead man

    ***

    thanks, JRJ

    pot smokin’ hippie, in other words

    not surprised he kicked the bucket at age 27

    dude has been dead 41 years (as of today)

  654. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 3rd, 2012 at 11:24 am
    I’m teaching my 4 year old girl how to fish, she is doing great, quite fearless!

    ***

    Congrats man. family time = priceless

    cant wait until my 19 month old boy gets a little older and I can take him on outdoor adventures as well
    ——————
    no doubt!

  655. R8ER MIKE Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 3rd, 2012 at 11:45 am
    he was the Doors lead man

    ***

    thanks, JRJ

    pot smokin’ hippie, in other words

    **********************
    @RRS
    lol you say pot smokin hippie like its a bad thing !!

  656. RaiderRockstar Says:

    you say pot smokin hippie like its a bad thing !!

    ***

    @Mike

    been there, done that. cant remember a darn thing!

  657. R8ER MIKE Says:

    LMAO RRS !!!

  658. R8ER MIKE Says:

    GREEN PARTY RULES !!!!
    **********************

  659. Dan78 Says:

    Thanks Dj Johhny I just copy and paste my question and he answered.

  660. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Raiders legend Ben Davidson passed away

    ***

    Live Chat ended early

    prayers out to the Davidson family

  661. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Steve, King Darrius = #1 WR in 2012. 80 catches & 1200 yards. you heard it here first

    Corkran: Out on a limb, eh? Be careful out there.

    ***

    LOL!!

  662. Dan78 Says:

    My prayers go to his family

  663. RaiderRockstar Says:

    45 mins left on lunch break. now what am I gonna do?

    politics & racism debate, anyone?

  664. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Jason Terry near deal with Boston Celtics

    Jeff Green is healthy, will re-sign with Celtics

  665. Dan78 Says:

    RR I copied and pasted a question that DJ Johhny thought Cork would answer and behold, it was the second question answered. funny

  666. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Lakers are prepared to offer the Andrew Bynum and Metta World Peace to the Magic for Dwight Howard provided Howard signs extension… I’m told the Magic will include Jason Richardson in any deal for Dwight Howard

    http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/03/report-lakers-willing-to-offer-bynum-world-peace-for-howard-if-he-will-stay-in-l-a/

    ***

    thoughts, DAV?

  667. jesusraiderjim Says:

    “Big Ben” used to have a bar in Hayward when I was a young lad. Never went there cause 6 yr olds weren’t allowed but man I used to love watching that guy especially against the Chiefs back in the day. Ben would go upside your head that is for sure.

  668. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Raiders ticket promotion yields $54,000 for Oakland schools

    Posted by Mike Florio on July 3, 2012, 1:34 PM EDT

    In one of the more unique charitable gestures we can remember, the Raiders officially have raised more than $54,000 for Oakland schools.

    The Raiders accomplished that feat by carving out 10 percent of the gross proceeds for all season tickets sold between May 1 and June 30.

    It also means that the Raiders sold more than $540,000 in season tickets during that two-month window.

    We hope more teams will look for creative, win-win ways to do business. For the Raiders, they found a way both to move merchandise and raise money for a good cause.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/03/raiders-ticket-promotion-yields-54000-for-oakland-schools/

  669. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Ben Davidson was 72 years old

    played for the Raiders from 1964-1971

    He played a convict football player in the movie ‘Necessary Roughness’

  670. R8ER MIKE Says:

    Wasnt Ben Davidson in the movie M.A.S.H. ??
    Think he was the guy how spits water into Radars ear !!

  671. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I used to love watching that guy especially against the Chiefs back in the day

    ***

    @JRJ

    yeah, Len Dawson remembers him well!

  672. RaiderRockstar Says:

    According to John Madden, Ben Davidson died of prostate cancer

  673. Intrepid Says:

    Comments in live chat are cut off on the right side and no scroll bar visible on this site. Everything looks ok on live chat at the contracostatimes.com site( linked from corks’ twitter). Firefox browser. Anybody else have this problem?

  674. RaiderRockstar Says:

    dang, Andy Griffith died today too!

  675. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Firefox browser. Anybody else have this problem?

    ***

    @ Intrepid

    yes – i’m using IE. same problem

  676. RaiderDuck Says:

    Same thing in Chrome. HOWEVER, if you highlight some text and then move the cursor to the right, it will scroll the entire mini-window; the avatars won’t be visible, but at least you’ll be able to read everything.

  677. RaiderRockstar Says:

    whats up Duck!!??

  678. RaiderDuck Says:

    Hey, RRS!

  679. RaiderRockstar Says:

    according to Vittorio Tafur (on twitter) the deadline to get Tyvon Branch inked to a long-term deal is July 16

    Corkran in the live chat says “theres still time”

    less than 2 weeks isn’t much time imo

  680. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Seymour’s 29 tackles in 2011 were the second fewest of his 11-year pro career

    at $15 million per season, Big Rich is the highest-paid defensive player in the NFL.

    ***

    could Branch please let him borrow a few tackles?

    Raider fans love that tackle stat!

  681. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Don’t expect big free-agent splash for Warriors

    http://www.sfgate.com/warriors/article/Don-t-expect-big-free-agent-splash-for-Warriors-3680149.php

  682. Buckeyeraider Says:

    G’afternoon fellas.

    Sorry to hear about Big Ben. Sympathies to the Davidson family.

    If Phil V is the spokesman for Madden’s ’70s Raiders, then Ben was the face of the late ’60s.

    With his trademark handlebar mustache and dirty play he symbolized the Raiders “Hell’s Angels in Shoulder pads” image.

    A lil before my time, but I love the old NFL Films of him starting that infamous brawl vs the Chiefs and the classic Bill King call…”And here come all the Raiders. Holy Toledo”.

    RIP Mr. Davidson.

  683. RaiderRockstar Says:

    The Boston Celtics’ hopes of keeping Ray Allen will have to wait a few days.

    The 36-year-old free-agent guard will visit the Miami Heat on Thursday and the Los Angeles Clippers on Friday, according to a source, and listen to their pitches.

  684. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Steve Nash:

    Raptors, Suns, Knicks, Nets or Mavericks?

  685. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Cavaliers interested in Brandon Roy

    ***

    thoughts, Raider O?

  686. RaiderRockstar Says:

    back to work. this blog is dead anyways

    later gents!

  687. KoolKell Says:

    Aw damn, RIP Big Ben Davidson. I wonder if he and Ike Lassiter ever settled on who broke Joe Namath’s jaw.

  688. DJ Johnny Says:

    665.Dan78 Says:
    July 3rd, 2012 at 12:18 pm
    RR I copied and pasted a question that DJ Johhny thought Cork would answer and behold, it was the second question answered. funny

    Haah. I saw that Dan. He didn’t answer it exactly as I predicted but that was funny.

    Thanks.

  689. DJ Johnny Says:

    687.KoolKell Says:
    July 3rd, 2012 at 1:41 pm
    Aw damn, RIP Big Ben Davidson. I wonder if he and Ike Lassiter ever settled on who broke Joe Namath’s jaw.

    That pic. of him with his arms wrapped around the Miami QB’s neck is scary.

    I look at that and I can’t imagine that guys neck not being broken. Was it Earl Morrall? Griese?

  690. JB Says:

    Big Ben was BIG back then. Not so much by today’s standards. He was 6′8″ & about a lean 250#. His claim to fame was the amount of time he played AFTER the whistle blew. He wouldn’t have even made the squad based on his size, ability & rules change. I think one of his more famous plays was when he speared KC Chief’s QB Len Dawson while he was on the ground well after the whistle. This promptly started a brawl and caused many flags to be thrown from all directions. He single handedly helped take a loss and extend the game where the Raiders were able to come back & win the game. I think it was in 67 or 68.

    I met him at training camp one ear in Santa Rosa. what was so surprising was just how thin & lean he really was. He would have been killed by today’s O-Linemen – just a size mismatch.

    RIP Big Ben. Thanks for all the great thrills you provided back in the day.

  691. KoolKell Says:

    JB Says:
    July 3rd, 2012 at 4:18 pm

    I think one of his more famous plays was when he speared KC Chief’s QB Len Dawson while he was on the ground well after the whistle. This promptly started a brawl and caused many flags to be thrown from all directions. He single handedly helped take a loss and extend the game where the Raiders were able to come back & win the game. I think it was in 67 or 68.
    —————————————–
    One of the biggest plays in Raider History, AND a play where the Ref’s didn’t fk them. Well, Otis Taylor jumped on Davidson, and the play was cancelled out.

  692. KoolKell Says:

    I bet that play would have gone against the Raiders today.

  693. M Lonetree Says:

    RIP the original Big Ben.
    Keating and Davidson riding the outback of Baja each offseason forever.

  694. 2romes Says:

    You will be missed but not forgotten. RIP.

  695. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Anyone else having issues trying to load this site?

    My laptop and home PC both get redirected to some registry site, and can only access this from my GoogleTV by going to an old thread and reloading.

    Can’t google “Ibabuzz” or go to my old links to the site.

    Hmmmmm………….

  696. KoolKell Says:

    No problems with my IPad. Getting on.

  697. JB Says:

    #695
    If you are on some type of router, check you DNS I.P. addresses. If you don’t know what they should be use Google Open DNS IP addresses which are 8.8.8.8 & 8.8.4.4

    If you have Comcast for your ISP, they’ve been screwing with the DNS server addresses.

  698. Raidernationdave Says:

    Couldn’t get on for the longest time today….

    I missed you guys!!!!

  699. KoolKell Says:

    KoolKell Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation.
    July 3rd, 2012 at 8:28 pm
    July 3, 2012, 7:57 PMJuly 3: No Polling Fireworks on Eve of Holiday | 

    Tuesday is often a busy day for polling, but the volume was relatively light on the eve of the July 4 holiday. On the plus side for President 0bama: a poll from a Republican-leaning firm that put him up by a point in Florida, and encouraging reports on factory orders and auto sales. Favoring Mr. Romney were a North Carolina poll that put him 5 points ahead, and national tracking polls that moved a point toward him. Overall, the FiveThirtyEight forecast was essentially unchanged, with Mr. 0bama given a 68.3 percent chance of winning the Electoral College.

    FiveThirtyEight.com

  700. DT42 Says:

    “What went through my mind was, maybe I can break Lenny Dawson’s ribs and he won’t be able to play next week. Maybe they’ll lose and we’ll be back in first place.”
    ~ Ben Davidson

    RIP Ben!

  701. KoolKell Says:

    DT42 Says:
    July 3rd, 2012 at 9:26 pm

    “What went through my mind was, maybe I can break Lenny Dawson’s ribs and he won’t be able to play next week. Maybe they’ll lose and we’ll be back in first place.”
    ~ Ben Davidson

    RIP Ben!
    ———————————
    As I remember that was the game for the division, before wild cards. Dawson had picked up the clinching first Down on a scramble to the right side. The Game & Season was over.
    The only thing I can think of, was baiting a KC player to retaliate. Otis Taylor did. Off-setting penalties. KC 1st down negated, Raiders stopped the next play.

  702. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Happy birthday to Todd Marinovich and Al Davis.

  703. Mr.LesterHayes Says:

    All we need is one pin, Rodney.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pStfv9cjJt0&feature=related

  704. Raiders for life Says:

    YEAH the blog is back. Couldn’t access the site all day yesterday. Sheew, I didn’t realize how addicting this dang blog is.

  705. raiderfankirk Says:

    Couldn’t access it yesterday. Anyone know what’s up with the live chat format their using now. I used to be able to hit replay on my phone and read through it, but now I can’t.

  706. bunk moorland Says:

    ok blog, guick poll. who eats more today at coney island? i say joey chesnut eats 92 dogs and kells wife swallows 91 dawgs.

  707. sloppy joe beene Says:

    raiderfankirk Says:
    July 4th, 2012 at 7:35 am
    Couldn’t access it yesterday. Anyone know what’s up with the live chat format their using now. I used to be able to hit replay on my phone and read through it, but now I can’t.
    ******************************************************
    Gotcha. Yesterday was like the blog design was weird with no blog. I thought that was the end of this. Becker must of had enough and switched the web page provider. But it pops up today. Amazing.

  708. DJ Johnny Says:

    Amazing that we’re almost a month away from the Raiders taking the field for the first time in an actual game and the blog has slowed down to a crawl.

    Well, it IS a holiday after all.

    My excuse is i’m working today.

  709. Raider O Says:

    RIP AL.

  710. Raidernationdave Says:

    What is up with getting on this blog anymore?

  711. Intrepid Says:

    raiderfankirk, try( http://www.contracostatimes.com/raiders/ci_20979450/live-chat-inside-oakland-raiders-tuesday-noon?source=rss )Live chat on this site was wonky on Firefox, IE, and Chrome, but @contracostatimes everything was cool. Only lasted ten minutes anyway, ’cause Steve split on Ben Davidson news. Happy birthday, Al and 4th to everyone else.

  712. Raider O Says:

    DJ,

    What do you want to talk about?
    Branch worth a big contract?
    Benson?
    McClain’s legal issues?
    Criner is a stud?
    lol

  713. Charlie Says:

    Saddened to see Big Ben has passed.
    Reminds me of when the Raiders played defense.
    DJ+Kell; Lassiter broke the jaw and it was Griese getting sacked.

    If the Raiders D improves this year it is because of steadier corner play and the addition of Shaugnessy/Tollefson.
    All of this nonsense about scheme and Huff’s comments about how playing in a real defense will help makes me sick.

    Did Mr. Davis tell KELLY to jump offsides on 3rd and 4?
    Did he tell SEYMOUR to get thrown out of a game before halftime because he was being embarrassed?
    Did he tell HUFF to clutch and grab and get called for holding on a 3rd and 15?
    Did he tell McCLAIN to take a bad angle and miss another tackle?

    O’Steen, Kinlaw, Villapiano, Lassiter, Rowe, Martin, Conners, Biekert, Sistrunk, Davis etc. were not gifted. They are simply examples of guys who knew the system, played hard and made big plays when it counted.
    Maybe today’s Raiders ought to report to camp in shape (KELLY) ready to play and stop blaming coaches or the scheme.
    Don’t be surprised to see some more “names” get cut in camp.

  714. DJ Johnny Says:

    # Raider O Says:
    July 4th, 2012 at 10:25 am

    DJ,

    What do you want to talk about?
    Branch worth a big contract?
    Benson?
    McClain’s legal issues?
    Criner is a stud?
    lol

    How about whether Raiders go to 3-4 or 4-3?

    lol.

  715. DJ Johnny Says:

    Charlie,

    Yeah. The cuts we see in camp will be interesting to see no doubt.

    Did I read correctly that Seymour is the highest paid defensive player in the league?

    C’mon.

  716. SR Raider Says:

    RIP Ben, and Mr. D. The Raider Nation will miss you

  717. backstageatapuppetshow Says:

    @713 Exactly!

    Great Post

  718. PlunkforHOF Says:

    I was having the same problems logging in here for the past day and a half as you other guys.. Thought I got banned for no reason.

  719. Smiley Face Says:

    :D The blog is working :!:
    :mrgreen: Yeah, the blog is back
    :P Hooooooooray
    :cool: Cool man :P :P :P :D :D :P :D :lol: :mrgreen:
    :) there goes the fireworks cuzz the buzz is back
    :mrgreen: oh happy day

  720. Just Fire Baby Says:

    This thing is weird.

    I can only access using my google TV and IPOD.

    Both PC and laptop does not access it. Even if I go to the Trib webpage, then the Raiders page, the link to this site, has a message from Network Solutions, saying link is unavailable.

    Wonder if it is a sign to chill for a minute and focus on work?

  721. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    YO SHOUT OUT TO UNCLE SAM, STARS N STRIPES, WORD

    In the immortal words of the Beeech Diggity Dawg, let freedom ring, y’all

    Getting straight silly with some July 4th BBQ / Bikini action in the penthouse

    My almost-chart topping boy band 2 Kewl 4 Skool is set to play a little later, got some patriotic pube ‘dos that will rock American style

    Gonna unleash a new jam about how great this country is and about how long my ding dong is after I drop a hella watery duece bomb

    Seriously nerds, this thing has been itchin’ to get out since the French and Indian War

    BEEECH DAWG POWER ON THE MAYFLOWER

  722. Just Fire Baby Says:

    A ha!!

    Just shut everything done, unplugged the router, plugged it back in and reset it and we are back in action.

    That ish was weird!!!

  723. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Did Mr. Davis tell KELLY to jump offsides on 3rd and 4?
    Did he tell SEYMOUR to get thrown out of a game before halftime because he was being embarrassed?
    Did he tell HUFF to clutch and grab and get called for holding on a 3rd and 15?
    Did he tell McCLAIN to take a bad angle and miss another tackle?

    ***************************

    -Did you ever see TK benched for leading the league in jumping offsides?
    -Did you see any internal discipline on Seymour?
    -Al’s hand-picked DB coach Willie Brown, actually DID tell people to do that, according to Chris Johnson last year. I believe the quote was “just go up and grab him by the neck”; that’s what Raiders coaches taught.

  724. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Don’t be surprised to see some more “names” get cut in camp.

    ***************************

    I agree……..because *AHEM* we have new eyes at the top.

  725. Raidernationdave Says:

    My mother passed away about 4 years ago. Both my mom and AD were born on 7/4/1929.

    I was “born” to be a Raider!

  726. Charlie Says:

    My point is that the Raiders are weak because our players are weak. NOT because of scheme or coaching.
    We have had some of the most overrated and overpaid slobs the game has had to offer (Warren, Moss, Sapp etc.)
    To that end Mr. Davis should take the blame. He was loyal to a fault when it came to today’s players. He was used to character guys like Banaszak, Hubbard, Otto, Villapiano,Plunkett etc. who were thankful for the opportunity to play a kids game and get paid well for their efforts.

    Thankfully we do have new eyes to see the frauds like Johnson and Routt.
    If players do not execute we lose. It is that simple. The system, the ownwer, the GM, the fans and the cheerleaders don’t mean jack without talent on the field.

  727. backstageatapuppetshow Says:

    Charlie, If I agreed with you this time we would both be wrong!

    Our Coaches have been weak for over 10 years….with the exception of a quality position Coach here and there….

    The men who call the game…the guys who have to make the split decisions and halftime adjustments….have been WEAK…

    I can give example if you have the rest of the day to discuss it!

  728. Charlie Says:

    Backstage;
    Marshall,Bresnahan,Cable,Jackson,Kiffin,Callahan, Saunders, Shell etc. have all had substantial success in other locations and in a variety of various capacities OTHER THAN OAKLAND. Bresnahan and Shell even had success in Oakland. They simply had better football players the first time around.

    Bottom line is we have tried different schemes, different systems, different attitudes and on and on and it has not worked because we overpaid for weak talent.
    What we have not done is draft enough lineman (especially dline) in the first two rounds in the last ten years.

    Spencer, Bartell, Wheeler, Tollefson, Shaugnessy will hopefully help out. If they don’t you can go “multiple” and blitz as often as you like and we will get our b*tts kicked.
    You have to regularly be able to pressure with four and stop the run with your front seven or you will fail as a defense. Our dfensive line has been pathetic for years and no scheme will fix that. Only better players.

  729. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    YO BIG UPS TO DEM STARS N STRIPES

    Blog Brahs, here’s the jam you’ve been waiting your whole life to rock out to

    It’s so patriotic John Cougar just jammed a fiddle up his corn hole because he wishes he wrote it

    It makes Born in the USA sound like a Spice Girls single

    Calling it “Fightin’ 4 Freedom … With my Weiner”, goes great with a few asian porn stars and a huge pile of cheeseburgers

    Wish I hadn’t just humped that ‘ho
    Better bow down to Mount Rushmo’
    The USA making the Beeech Dawg proud
    Girl, when you lick my dode, don’t be so loud
    Gotta respect Lady Liberty
    Dang, that STD makes it hurt to pee
    Now hop along, shortie, make like a frog
    And use that tongue on the mighty Beeech Lawg

    HIGH FIVIN’ THE FOUNDING FATHERS

  730. KoolKell Says:

    Charlie, the Raiders have lost more than-they’ve won since the advent of Free Agency in 1989. That’s the Fact.

    All Teams have the same access to the same player pool. Blaming players is illogical.

  731. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    Krappy, you planning on chasing Bubba Paris around the amusement park again today?

  732. CanuckRaider Says:

    Wishing a happy 4th of July to the Nation! Play hard but safe brothers and sisters.
    That was some righteous 4th of July rap Beeech Dawg…Hope you’re getting jiggy with some bootylicious strippers right now.
    RIP Big Ben…the real Big Ben.

  733. CanuckRaider Says:

    #731: He’s probably lighting bombers through his Bermudas for the kids…Saves on fireworks and he just jumps in the kiddie pool if things get out of hand.

  734. KoolKell Says:

    The Beeech Dawg Says:
    July 4th, 2012 at 3:34 pm

    Krappy, you planning on chasing Bubba Paris around the amusement park again today?
    —————-
    Get a life Beecham,

  735. Charlie Says:

    Blaming players is illogical?
    Mr Davis bears the responsibility of getting the wrong players, NO DOUBT. But players need to play.
    Are you saying all teams are equal in talent and it is only coaching that makes a difference?
    Why didn’t the Rams magically become a defensive force like the Giants when they got Spagnuolo? He got fired because his players s*cked and they went 2-14.

    Were Wisnieski and Shell supposed to block as coaches?
    Is Saunders supposed to throw?
    Was Lal supposed to catch?
    Was Biekert supposed to tackle?

    That is absurd. Players need to execute. All of the coaching changes and new systems have not worked because our players are bad. ESPECIALLY on the line of scrimmage. (JR was a fat, lazy, overpaid jerk as well)

    Fotunately Mckenzie is overhauling our roster to get better players whose production will match their compensation. Players are 80% of the game. If they are bad your team will be bad. With or without good coaching.

  736. Smiley Face Says:

    :mrgreen: Listen everybody, playahs need to play. period. Mr D brought in talent and the playahs crapped the bed. :mad: Deo Hall, JaMar to name a few. Took Mr Ds’ money.
    :x Playahs need to play. period. The league is less interesting without Mr D. :sad: anybody who thinks Mr D wasn’t a great man can suck it. perod :shock:

  737. Raiders for life Says:

    Charlie I do agree with you on some points. Over payed players that can’t perform have been the norm.
    Nothing can replace solid coaching though. A good example is Chris Peterson from Boise ST. They get bottom of the barrel players and turn them into BCS contenders.

  738. KoolKell Says:

    * I’m saying all teams have the same access to the same player pool

  739. KoolKell Says:

    Why didn’t the Rams magically become a defensive force like the Giants when they got Spagnuolo? He got fired because his players s*cked and they went 2-14.
    ————–
    .???

  740. KoolKell Says:

    Great Chef’s make better use of the ingredients than poor Chef’s.

  741. CanuckRaider Says:

    #736: Right on “Smiley Face”…Happy 83rd Al…RIP.

  742. KoolKell Says:

    The league is less interesting without Mr D. anybody who thinks Mr D wasn’t a great man can suck it. perod
    ——————
    Nothing personal, he just wasn’t winning any more.

  743. CanuckRaider Says:

    #742: True Kell…He did hang on for too long but the team was his life…Who is anybody to say he should have packed it in?

  744. KoolKell Says:

    CanuckRaider Says:
    July 4th, 2012 at 4:24 pm

    #742: True Kell…He did hang on for too long but the team was his life…Who is anybody to say he should have packed it in?
    —————-
    It would have been nice if he did.

  745. CanuckRaider Says:

    In a perfect world…

  746. KoolKell Says:

    I would have loved Al turning over the football operations to Reggie Mack 5-10 years ago, and having success and amplifying his legacy even more.

  747. Just Fire Baby Says:

    We have had plenty of underperforming players leave the Raiders and go excel elsewhere.

    Can’t remember any defensive coaches doing the same other than maybe John Fox.

    Our players may have sucked, but our staff and scheme sucked more.

  748. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “I would have loved Al turning over the football operations to Reggie Mack 5-10 years ago, and having success and amplifying his legacy even more.”

    Who cares what you would have liked to see happen it is NOT your team it was Al Davis choice not yours.

    Stop being so barrow minded and self centered like the world should work the way you want it to what are you 6 years old.

    Al Davis wanted to win more than you ever will or ever know or could experience in any way and it was his decision to run his team the way he wanted to and its his legacy not yours.

    He earned the right to hold on to it so closely in the end and he passed the team on to his son the way he saw fit.

    Its over shut up about it move on this is a new era let the man rest in peace you imbecile!

  749. Marks hair Says:

    LAKERS!!

  750. Marks hair Says:

    Showtimes back! Muuuthafuukkas!

  751. Marks hair Says:

    Here comes another banner

  752. Smiley Face Says:

    :mrgreen: its all cool :cool: Kool. I just feel offended :eek: and hurt :sad: when people diss on Mr D, specially on his b-day. :D I always felt close to Mr D, even in hard times. We roll with the high and roll with the low. We are not fair weather fans. period.
    :mrgreen:

  753. xraided Says:

    is Steve Nash in his prime still? he didn’t do so hot last year i thought … still, with Kobe, it’s a scary thought. hopefully the dubs get rid of Wright and make room for Roy and JJ Hickson … then we can be competitive again, finally!

  754. xraided Says:

    yea 12.5 ppg pretty awful … but 10.5 apg … that’s just craziness! with Gasol and Bynum under the basket, i’m sure they will get fed a lot by Nash … we’ll see

  755. J Hill Says:

    Dakota,

    Trade exception used to get Nash, eh?

    Go Buss Jr.!

  756. J Hill Says:

    10.5 assts per game AND the best 3 point shooter in the league.

    LOL at Ramon Sessions. Ariza situation all over again. What a dumbarsse!

    Hope Farmar gets bought out and he comes back to lead the bench mob!

  757. Coach Elkins Says:

    Happy Birthday Mr. Davis, you did it YOUR WAY!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWWpSsT-_R4&feature=g-upl

  758. J Hill Says:

    Looks like Grant Hill is coming to the Lakers too?

    By Artest.

  759. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I could score on Steve Nash; he helps the Lakers nada.

    Those Suns teams folded down the stretch, with Nash usually getting abused by Tony Parker and willingly defering to guys like Boris Diaw offensively in crucial moments.

  760. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I can’t wait for Russell Westbrook to average the easiest looking 37 points per game in the first round sweep of the 8th seeded Lake Show next year.

    Can’t wait!!!!

  761. Moderator Says:

    Gentlemen:

    Please put the kibosh on the basketball chat. This is a Raider blog for Raider discussion. If the basketball chat continues, I will be forced to call the internet police and have citation warnings be issued. Thank You in advance for your co-operation. Now lets get back to Raider football.

  762. Marks hair Says:

    Hahahahaha!! Championship!! Woooooooo!

  763. Marks hair Says:

    Banner # 16

  764. Marks hair Says:

    The Lakers will be a relentless monster.. Sorry everyone else..

  765. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    LAKER HOMIES STAND UP N REPRESENT

    Straight up NASH Style, whutwhat?!

    Yo, bringing home another banner, biggest day since we drafted Von Wafer

    On the realz, Kobe, Gasol, Nash and Howard – er, I mean Bynum gettin’ fizzle on the West. Then showin’ Bron Bron how to ball proper

    Just wait y’all – Magic Man Kup’s got his fingers on a few more magic touches

    Yo – you KNOW the next trophy gotta run by Staples, holla back to the Big Mo Dee

    SHOWTIME BE BACK

  766. Marks hair Says:

    Best offense in the nba next yr..

  767. Marks hair Says:

    S H O W T I M E ! ! ! ! !

  768. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    Yo – Showtime is now comin’ atcha in:

    BLACK (kobe, bynum/howard)

    and

    WHITE (gasol, nash)

    get it? totally hilarious play on words, huh dudes

  769. Moderator Says:

    Cork and Jer have asked that the basketball yak please stop. Gentlemen, this is a fcking Raider blog and the basketball sh!t must stop. Please get rid of the ass odor.

    Sent from my iPhone.

  770. Moderator Says:

    Who passed the gas in here? Place smells.

    Sent from my iPhone again.

  771. Moderator Says:

    It’s midnight in Podunk and all the fireworks are done. Nighty night and don’t let the bed bugs bite.

    Sent from my iOpener.

  772. arkraider Says:

    Moderate this!!

  773. Man there sure are a lot of fireworks goin off and some of them got some pretty colors I never seen before but they are loud Says:

    -

  774. Man there sure are a lot of fireworks goin off and some of them got some pretty colors I never seen before but they are loud Says:

    Man there sure are a lot of fireworks goin off and some of them got some pretty colors I never seen before but they are loud

  775. Born in the USA i was born in the USA i was born in the USA iwas born in the USA yes i was iwas born in the USA i was born in the USA yes i was i was born in the USA i was born in the USA yes i was i was born in the USA i was born in the USA yes i wa Says:

    Born down in a dead man town
    The first kick I took was when I hit the ground
    You end up like a dog that’s been beat too much
    Till you spend half your life just covering up

    Born in the u.s.a., I was born in the u.s.a.
    I was born in the u.s.a., born in the u.s.a.

    Got in a little hometown jam
    So they put a rifle in my hand
    Sent me off to a foreign land
    To go and kill the yellow man

    Born in the U.S.A…

    Come back home to the refinery
    Hiring man said son if it was up to me
    Went down to see my v.a. man
    He said son, don’t you understand

    I had a brother at Khe Sahn
    Fighting off the Viet Cong
    They’re still there, he’s all gone

    He had a woman he loved in Saigon
    I got a picture of him in her arms now

    Down in the shadow of the penitentiary
    Out by the gas fires of the refinery
    I’m ten years burning down the road
    Nowhere to run aint got nowhere to go

    Born in the u.s.a., I was born in the u.s.a.
    Born in the u.s.a., I’m a long gone daddy in the u.s.a.
    Born in the u.s.a., born in the u.s.a.
    Born in the u.s.a., I’m a cool rocking daddy in the u.s.a.

  776. Yes i was i was i was born in the US of A yes i was i was i was i was i was yes i was i was born in the US of A i was i was yes i was born in the US of A the US of A i was iwas yes i was born i was i was born in the US of A yes i was i was born in t Says:

    Born down in a dead man town
    The first kick I took was when I hit the ground
    You end up like a dog that’s been beat too much
    Till you spend half your life just covering up

    Born in the u.s.a., I was born in the u.s.a.
    I was born in the u.s.a., born in the u.s.a.

    Got in a little hometown jam
    So they put a rifle in my hand
    Sent me off to a foreign land
    To go and kill the yellow man

    Born in the U.S.A…
    [ Lyrics from: http://www.lyricsfreak.com/b/bruce+springsteen/born+in+the+u+s+a_20024969.html ]
    Come back home to the refinery
    Hiring man said son if it was up to me
    Went down to see my v.a. man
    He said son, don’t you understand

    I had a brother at Khe Sahn
    Fighting off the Viet Cong
    They’re still there, he’s all gone

    He had a woman he loved in Saigon
    I got a picture of him in her arms now

    Down in the shadow of the penitentiary
    Out by the gas fires of the refinery
    I’m ten years burning down the road
    Nowhere to run aint got nowhere to go

    Born in the u.s.a., I was born in the u.s.a.
    Born in the u.s.a., I’m a long gone daddy in the u.s.a.
    Born in the u.s.a., born in the u.s.a.
    Born in the u.s.a., I’m a cool rocking daddy in the u.s.a.
    -bruce (the boss) and his band

  777. . Says:

    777

  778. arkraider Says:

    Moderate that!

  779. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    Didn’t get to see much of Ben Davidson’s play but have seen the footage of him spearing Len Dawson numerous times.

    That kind of personal foul would definitely earn a suspension these days.

    The athletes are bigger, faster and stronger today but I think in many ways the game was tougher back when Davidson played.

    Hard to believe Atkinson’s near decapitation of Lynn Swann was perfectly legal back in the day.

    Kind of amazing that there weren’t more serious injuries or fatalities back when there weren’t as many rules in place to safeguard the players.

    The really amazing thing is that a large portion of the players were getting paid chump change and worked other jobs in the off-season to survive.

    Man, how times have changed.

  780. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    By the way, have been unable to access this site for the past two days.

    Can’t do it using an outdated version of Internet Explorer. Firefox is hit and miss, and can only get here by accessing an old thread first and then loading this current page. If I just try to come in through the usual Ibabuzz channels I get redirected to a domain site. If I try to refresh the current page, the same redirect happens.

    Figure it’ll take the crack IT staff a few months to resolve this.

  781. Just Fire Baby Says:

    RM99,

    I had the same thing with the domain site. I am not a big tech guy, but I shut everything down, and unplugged my router and went through the resetup process and now we are firing on all cylinders.

  782. hwnrdr Says:

    Good Morning Nation!
    What happened to this site the last couple days…I couldn’t get to it because it said it was unavailable, check back later…oh well!

  783. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Nash a Laker?

    bwahahahhaa!

    traded a bunch of draft picks for one last ditch effort at another ring for Kobe, eh?

    Bynum, Gasol, Artest, Bryant & Nash = wow

    what will be the excuse for not getting past Spurs or Thunder next postseason?

    Lakers trying to win now, like Al Davis used to. Giving up high picks for an over-the-hill vet with maybe 1 or 2 years left

  784. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I could score on Steve Nash; he helps the Lakers nada.

    Those Suns teams folded down the stretch, with Nash usually getting abused by Tony Parker and willingly defering to guys like Boris Diaw offensively in crucial moments.

    I can’t wait for Russell Westbrook to average the easiest looking 37 points per game in the first round sweep of the 8th seeded Lake Show next year.

    ***

    LOL @ JFB. couldnt agree more!

  785. RaiderRockstar Says:

    http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/05/will-grant-hill-join-steve-nash-in-los-angeles/

    pathetic

  786. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Grant Hill needs to retire already, but he was a beast … when I was in middle school

  787. hwnrdr Says:

    Yeah…picking up Nash made me wanna drink last night…lol

  788. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    WONDER HOW THE AL DAVIS THING IN VEGAS WENT THE LAST COUPLE DAYS..

  789. J Hill Says:

    LOL @ the W’s fan in ABQ that knows NADA about basketball. David Lee is better than Bynum, eh?

    So you’re telling me that replacing Sessions with Nash makes them a worse team than last year?

    8th place and first rd exit?????

    LMFAO!

  790. J Hill Says:

    And the cosigning Podunkian?????

    Told you all along that all the Lakers needed was a PG with some balls. And they get arguably the best 3 point shooter in the league???

    Nash getting that corner 3 instead of Blake?

    Nash has GaSTUD to run pick and roll with instead of Gortat????

    Agree with the CAN’T WAIT part of your statement.

  791. J Hill Says:

    Nash has NEVER had weapons like this to play with.

    THREE all stars??????

    Nash will lead the league in assts by a wide margin.

  792. J Hill Says:

    How about those first place Dodgers?????

    Limping into the All star break, but the big doggs will be back in the line up sooner than later.

    Giants might not make the playoffs.

  793. guest123 Says:

    Just heard about Big Ben Davidson’s demise. RIP.

    He was a little before my time, but I remember the old photos of him with the big Rollie Fingers type stache. The man was a giant and one of the pioneers of the Raiders aura of intimidation.

  794. hwnrdr Says:

    I know, that was sad…and too young! RIP Ben Davidson!

  795. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Giants might not make the playoffs.

    ****************

    LMAO!!

    We are in a stretch of playing the Dodgers, Reds, Nats and Pirates, 4 of the top 12 records in baseball.

    And so far, we have a winning record in this swing.

  796. Just Fire Baby Says:

    So you’re telling me that replacing Sessions with Nash makes them a worse team than last year?

    **************************

    Defensively yes, and everyone else got older on the team.

    8th seed and first round exit.

    Print it!!

  797. J Hill Says:

    8th seed and first round exit.

    ———————————————————-

    Got it.

    Will file that right next to David Lee is better that Andrew Bynum.

  798. hwnrdr Says:

    J Hill Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 7:12 am
    8th seed and first round exit.

    ———————————————————-

    Got it.

    Will file that right next to David Lee is better that Andrew Bynum.

    LOL

  799. J Hill Says:

    How is the league going to stop Nash and his pure jumper from anywhere on the court from running the pick and roll game?

    Trap him and leave the bigs?

    Stay with the bigs and give him the 10 foot jumper?

    LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

  800. Just Fire Baby Says:

    How is the league going to stop Nash and his pure jumper from anywhere on the court from running the pick and roll game?

    *************************

    The same way they have the last 17 years??

    Let him shoot his jumpers and then abuse him defensively.

  801. Marks hair Says:

    L A K E R S ! ! !

  802. J Hill Says:

    Jeremy Lin got 8 million a year offer from the Rockets????

    Nash at 8 million is a BARGAIN!

  803. Marks hair Says:

    Hahahaha!!! Woooooooo!!!!

  804. Marks hair Says:

    Championship!!

  805. Just Fire Baby Says:

    What’s the great Steve Nash playoff moment?

    Getting shoved into the scorer’s table against the Spurs, and then wilting the next two games?

    I’m with Zeke Thomas on this one, Nash only won MVP’s because he is a goofy-looking white dude.

    The guys has made the playoffs 10 times, and lost in either 4 or 5 games in the first round HALF THE TIME!!

    First round exit extradionare!!!!!

  806. J Hill Says:

    Let him shoot his jumpers and then abuse him defensively.

    ———————————————————–

    Are you forgetting about the 2 7 footers Nash has behind him?

    We’re not talking about Amare or Gortat guarding the basket, my friend.

  807. Marks hair Says:

    Th e reason the suns never advanced is because they had to play LA.. But steve is with a championship franchise. Winning!!! Wooooooo!z

  808. J Hill Says:

    Nash is a PIECE, for crying out loud.

    This isn’t going to be the Steve Nash Show.

    What are you talking about?

    They still have 2 other top 10 playersin the league in Kobe and Bynum, and a top 20 player in Gasol.

    Nash is just going to be the straw that stirs the drink mayne.

  809. Marks hair Says:

    Fisher never played good D. And he won 5 titles.. Nash is a hofer and an all star this season… Hahahahaha!!

  810. J Hill Says:

    I do agree that the Nash MVP’s were ridiculousness.

    Has nothing to do with this conversation though.

  811. Raider O Says:

    Fakers chat?!

    Whats next? Heat chat?

    I rather chat about Branch with his number 1 hater aka RR.

  812. Marks hair Says:

    S H O W T I M E ! ! ! !

  813. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Are you forgetting about the 2 7 footers Nash has behind him?

    ************************

    How’d they do the last few years in the postseason?

    I seem to remember guards getting in their bizness early and often.

  814. Marks hair Says:

    the offense will be unstoppable

  815. Marks hair Says:

    813. I seem to remember them winning a championship in the last few yrs.. Dont you?

  816. Baker Laker Says:

    Ya’ll I’m a goin to shout out fo the Lakahs
    Big boys on the block now with all the playahs
    We pick we roll we shoot we score
    Then we gonna meltdown and be all butt sore

  817. Marks hair Says:

    If only the Raiders would come thru for me the way the Lakers always do..

  818. Baker Laker Says:

    K-O-B-E Yeah baby da man
    Dont matter cuz the Heat know they can
    Look out fo Oklahoma too
    Lakahs gonna be nuttin but poo.

  819. Marks hair Says:

    S H O W T I M E ! !

  820. J Hill Says:

    There is no “stopping” guys like Westbrook, Durant, CP3, Tony Parker, Nash, etc.

    If you can’t understand the difference between Bynum and a guy like Amare defensively then I don’t know what to say.

    Lakers offense will avg more than 100 a game.

    They are CLEARLY in the conversation as a title contender.

  821. Marks hair Says:

    Hahahaha go back to sleep nba fans, its laker time again!!

  822. hwnrdr Says:

    Marks hair Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 7:37 am
    If only the Raiders would come thru for me the way the Lakers always do..

    That is what I keep saying…you know, at least the Lakers have won it 10 times since I’ve been a fan. Yes, over 30+ years, but no other team of mines have done that! Will tehy do it again with Nash? Remains to be seen. Just like will the Raiders do it with Allen/Tarver/Knapp…with CP3 with a host of wr’s and a training camp? Remains to be seen!

  823. Baker Laker Says:

    Big laker fan here as u can see
    big laker fan as in b f d
    All about da money buyin da ring
    aint gonna happen fo da preety boys thing

    Lakahs = no way
    take it to the bank and make it pay
    Lakah fan says no way
    Lakah meltdown just like yestaday

  824. hwnrdr Says:

    After all, they did only really need a point guard! Yes, Nash is up there in age, but…like I said, I’ll wait til October!

  825. Marks hair Says:

    Poor thunder, oh well they had their chance..

  826. Baker Laker Says:

    Lahahs = use to be’s
    big lakah fan can see that abc’s
    so they buy nash and them cats
    now go and put on yo lakah hat
    and get on back to Raidah chat

  827. J Hill Says:

    Yeah, the Heat are in the conversation. Should be the favorites.

    OKC is in the conversation. Are they going to keep Harden and Ibaka?

    I like Boston in the conversation if Allen returns.

    I like the Clippers if Allen signs there.

  828. Baker Laker Says:

    LA Lahahs = 2 and a BBQ

  829. Marks hair Says:

    Exactly.. 10 titles in my lifetime.. lol at anybody who tells me my Lakers suck.. Hahaha
    Showtimes back!!

  830. Baker Laker Says:

    Jordan gonna turn around them Bobcats
    Bank it. Charlotte gonna stun the NBA next sean. As a Lahah fan, I dont wanna see it but what the hey, Charlotte Bobcats gonna be legit as it gits. Jordan aint gonna take losin anymore. Lahahs = use to be’s. Bobcats gonna flex it. Bank it for three.

  831. Baker Laker Says:

    Lahah show is gonna be aint no mo
    The past dont last
    Lahah = use to be’s
    da Heat, Bobcats, Clippers u gonna see.

  832. Marks hair Says:

    The lakers gave away 2 games to the thunder because of a stalled offense.. Not anymore.. Its OVER Jonny! ITS OVER!!!

  833. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Nash will have his moments, and he is hella fun to watch, but there is no ignoring that he has and always was a better regular season player then a postseason player, and it continues to exacerbates with each year.

    The guy has won 3 playoff series in the last 7 years.

    He is at his best running up and down the floor in Mid-January, not grinding it out in the halfcourt in May.

  834. J Hill Says:

    JFB,

    I’ll kind of concede the Dodger argument for this season as I really think we are a corner bat away from title contention.

    I’m really looking forward to next year though!

    How are you going to deal with …

    Kershaw
    Hamels
    Capuano

    ????????????

    Three LEFTY aces????

  835. J Hill Says:

    Either needs to be at 1st base!

    Cuban stud in left, Kemp in Right, Gwynn Jr in CF.

    With those 3 lefty aces throwing the pelota?????

    Like I said, enjoy your time on top now b/c this is it!

  836. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Capuano???

    LOL

    He has a career losing record.

    Don’t be fooled by this first half.

  837. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Either is on the mend again I believe, he needs to stay at 1B.

    I was amazed how bad he looked defensively this year, he use to be solid, now he is a hack with no arm.

    Maybe it was due to injury.

  838. J Hill Says:

    He is at his best running up and down the floor in Mid-January, not grinding it out in the halfcourt in May.

    ———————————————————–

    The 2 7 footers will do the gringing. They just needed someone to pass them the ball.

  839. Marks hair Says:

    Nash never played with a superstar with the suns.. He carried those teams. All he has to do in LA is stir the drink.

  840. Just Fire Baby Says:

    They just needed someone to pass them the ball.

    *************************

    I think they need someone who can spread the floor more, which Nash can do if he can shoot better than the last two years.

    You know, he shot over 40% from 3 for 12 straight years…….until the last two years.

  841. RaiderSam Says:

    Marks Hair Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 8:02 am
    Nash never played with a superstar with the suns.. He carried those teams. All he has to do in LA is stir the drink.

    ————-

    still to old to run with the Thunder, though….a few more deals probably in the works, Houston going for D.Howard

  842. J Hill Says:

    He has a career losing record.

    Don’t be fooled by this first half.

    ———————————————————–

    Dodger stadium effect????

    I take it you agree on Hamels and Kershaw though, right?

  843. RaiderSam Says:

    Marks Hair Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 7:48 am
    Exactly.. 10 titles in my lifetime.. lol at anybody who tells me my Lakers suck.. Hahaha
    Showtimes back!!

    ===========

    yeah, just like when Malone and Payton tried to hitch themselves up for one last ride….its all good though, it was cool just seeing another team, but those Finals have to go 6 or 7 to be truly memorable. Just wasn’t the same drama without Kobe and last minute shots, etc. Heat won in lockout shortened season….

  844. J Hill Says:

    Nash will have his best shooting year ever this year.

    He will have more open shots than ever before.

  845. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Kershaw is a beast, top 5 pitcher.

    Am I missing something on Hamels? I know his a SoCal guy, but the Phillies will throw a ton of money at him and so might the Angels.

    And he isn’t THAT THAT great. Good not great, not a power pitcher.

  846. Marks hair Says:

    841. that’s ridiculous

  847. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Fakers chat?!

    Whats next? Heat chat?

    I rather chat about Branch with his number 1 hater aka RR.

    ***

    whats up Kentucky?

    you rang?

  848. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Ever?

    He shot 45% from 3 one year, that will be tough to duplicate.

  849. RaiderRockstar Says:

    the Lakers needed to get younger, not older imo

  850. Marks hair Says:

    844. Right?? The best 3 point shooting pg in the nba just got WIDE open…

  851. J Hill Says:

    still to old to run with the Thunder, though

    ———————————————————–

    Thunder will be taking the ball out from under the basket after Laker buckets.

    Nash won’t be fumbling the ball around like Fisher and Sessions.

    Exactly when do you see them “running”?

  852. Plunketthead Says:

    With Jim Otto as the visage behind the helmeted logo and Al Davis firmly in place as the franchise icon, the Oakland Raiders of the 1960s needed only a memorable image to properly construct a renegade identity.

    Ben Davidson delivered.

    The punishing defensive end brought the requisite imposing size, standing 6-foot-8 and weighing 275 pounds. He brought the commanding voice, a growling baritone that rumbled like thunder. He could play a bit, too, playing in three AFL All-Star games.

    But it was Davidson’s devil-may-care attitude and rugged, biker gang-member look that really brought it home. His handlebar mustache, which appeared to be made from barbed wire, put the finishing touch on the villainous persona befitting the Raiders.

    Davidson died Monday night near San Diego. He had prostate cancer. He was 72.

    With AFL owners resorting to tricks and stunts in an effort to establish their upstart league against the long-standing NFL, Davidson was among those cast as promotional vehicles. He conveyed the appearance of anti-establishment, talking loud and often. His approach was, in a way, like that of a professional wrestler.

    Davidson’s bristling mustache was featured in “The Autumn Wind,” the poem, recited by John Facenda, that over the years has become synonymous with the Raiders. He parlayed his marketable talents into TV and movie roles. He also was a regular in Miller Lite ads on TV and in magazines, appearing in more than two dozen of them.

    Davidson also starred in one of the most famous photographs in football history, shown roaring past New York Jets quarterback Joe Namath, having decked the star with such force it sent Namath’s helmet flying from his head.

    That was the play on which it was initially thought Namath’s jaw was broken, with Davidson getting the credit/blame. Namath’s jaw actually was fractured on another play, when he was hit by Raiders defensive end Ike Lassiter.

    Davidson, generally good-natured and quick with a quip, still got the credit/blame — even though he often conceded he shouldn’t have.

    “Isaac did it, but I got all the publicity,” Davidson told the Seattle Post-Intelligencer in 2006. “Isaac figured if the stupid reporters had got it right, he would have been doing the Miller Lite commercials, not me.”

    Davidson was born in Los Angeles and spent most of his formative years playing basketball. The son of a police officer, he didn’t participate in football until he reached junior college, after which he played well enough to earn a scholarship to the University of Washington.

    Davidson came to the Raiders after being cut at least twice by other organizations. He spent eight seasons in Oakland and never regretted it.

    “Playing for the Raiders was pretty safe,” he once said with a twinkle in his eye. “People knew if they did something to you, something might happen to them.”

    Contact Monte Poole at mpoole@bayareanewsgroup.com. Follow him at Twitter.com/1montepoole.

  853. J Hill Says:

    the Lakers needed to get younger, not older imo

    ———————————————————

    Actually, they needed to get BETTER.

    Nash is BETTER than Sessions. BY FAR!!!!!

  854. Marks hair Says:

    kobe, nash, gas = basketball smart…

  855. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Bynum, Gasol, Artest, Bryant & Nash = wow

    anybody remember Allen Iverson’s supporting cast in Philly?

    whats the excuse going to be if the Lake Show doesn’t win it all???

  856. Marks hair Says:

    851. Exactly..

  857. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Newsflash Lakers fans.

    Nash shot 39% from 3, good for 33th in the league amongst all guards.

    Worse than PG’s Jordan Farmar, Kyrie Irving, Ramon Sessions, John Lucas, Boobie Gibson, Steph Curry, Jerryd Bayless, Gary Neal and a whole host of others.

  858. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    J Hill Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 8:12 am
    the Lakers needed to get younger, not older imo

    ———————————————————

    Actually, they needed to get BETTER.

    Nash is BETTER than Sessions. BY FAR!!!!!

    —-

    Lakers now NEED Dwight Howard to cover up the defensive holes of the rest of the lineup.

  859. Raider O Says:

    RR,

    lol
    Do you think Reggie will give Branch a LT deal, or do you think he is going to wait till next year?

  860. Marks hair Says:

    855. The lakers dont make excuses.. You just cant win a tittle every yr.. But the odds just went WAY up.

  861. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Artest wont be on that team in 2 months.

  862. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Artest’s money will & should go to Grant Hill & Rashard Lewis

  863. Marks hair Says:

    Hahahaha lolo… Weeeeee!!!

  864. Just Fire Baby Says:

    2 seasons ago, he was 32nd in the league.

    So you got the 30th best 3 point shooting guard in the league who can’t guard a chair, has a bad back (those things always go away for 38 year olds right?) and flops in the playoffs.

    Good luck with that.

  865. J Hill Says:

    whats the excuse going to be if the Lake Show doesn’t win it all???

    ———————————————————-

    None!

    They will deserve all the bashing they get.

  866. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I think the Lakers have a good excuse.

    Their GM overpaid for an overrated PG.

  867. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Now the Lakers can use Sessions in a sign & trade with Bynum for Dwight Howard.

  868. Marks hair Says:

    The magic need the lakers, the lakers dont need howard..

  869. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Calling Steve Nash overrated is really off.

    Shock statement at best, if you dont like him…cool.

    I dont like Kobe for nothing, doesnt mean I cant see his ability.

  870. RaiderSam Says:

    Marks Hair Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 8:17 am
    855. The lakers dont make excuses.. You just cant win a tittle every yr.. But the odds just went WAY up.

    ============

    Not if the Thunder actually play defense. Nucleus is there, but just ran out of gas….had they won game 2, would’ve been a different series. But thats woulda shoulda coulda talk.

    Hail King James.

  871. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Marks hair Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 8:21 am
    The magic need the lakers, the lakers dont need howard..

    —-

    Negative.

  872. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Avg age of Lakers lineup : 32

    Thunder: 24

  873. RaiderRockstar Says:

    for all the whining & complaining I see about them, the Lakers brass has been doing an excellent job of putting talent around KB24 every year … only to watch the “best player in the league” choke when it counts

  874. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Nash IS overrated.

    Should have never won those MVP’s.

    At this stage in his career, he MIGHT be in the top 15 as a PG.

    Ramon Sessions in 2012 might realistically be a better all around player.

    Shoots a higher % from 3, much better defensively.

    Those are facts.

  875. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 8:26 am
    Nash IS overrated.

    Should have never won those MVP’s.

    At this stage in his career, he MIGHT be in the top 15 as a PG.

    Ramon Sessions in 2012 might realistically be a better all around player.

    Shoots a higher % from 3, much better defensively.

    Those are facts.

    —-

    But you only keep bringing up shooting %’s.. That’s fine. But Nash is a top 5 POINT GUARD. Passing, getting in lanes, setting up players..

    Why dont you mention the Assists per game the past 5 years??.. weird.

  876. Marks hair Says:

    874. Have you ever watched nash play? He makes his teamates better. A rare gift. He’s a hof er all the way..

  877. hwnrdr Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 8:25 am
    for all the whining & complaining I see about them, the Lakers brass has been doing an excellent job of putting talent around KB24 every year … only to watch the “best player in the league” choke when it counts

    Really? Please guys…I don’t care you hate the Lakers, it’s actually kind of fun, but…come on now!

  878. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Nash is maybe the best in the league at running the break, no doubt.

    But what else does he do better than Ramon Sessions? Dribble? OK. Shoot FT’s? Yes.

    But….

    Play Defense? LOL
    Rebound? Still laughing
    Control the ball? Actually Nash has a higher turnover ratio per 48 minutes.
    Shoot the 3? Nope, Sessions was top 10 in the league.
    Log more minutes? Nope.

  879. Marks hair Says:

    How often do teams with the av age of 24 win championships..? None of my laker champion teams have been that young..

  880. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Assists go to the guy with the ball all the time.

    Westbrook, John Wall and Derrick Rose have all been top 10 in assists the last two years.

    Neither one is a good passer.

  881. Marks hair Says:

    878. You clearly dont watch many games….

  882. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Marks hair Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 8:34 am
    How often do teams with the av age of 24 win championships..? None of my laker champion teams have been that young..

    —-

    That statement might mean something if the team with the avg age of 24 wasnt just in the Finals lol..

  883. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 8:34 am
    Assists go to the guy with the ball all the time.

    Westbrook, John Wall and Derrick Rose have all been top 10 in assists the last two years.

    Neither one is a good passer.

    —-

    John Wall isnt a good passer?… wow.

    Next topic.

  884. J Hill Says:

    Shoot the 3? Nope, Sessions was top 10 in the league.

    ———————————————————–

    Can’t believe that.

    What were the attempts???

    Sessions had about a 4 game stretch where he couldn’t miss from 3. Was awful after that and stopped shooting.

    You won’t find one person to jump on your Ramon Sessions is a better shooter than Nash propoganda.

    LMFAO!

  885. Marks hair Says:

    C H A M P I O N S H I P ! ! !

  886. boss01 Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 8:29 am
    Just Fire Baby Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 8:26 am
    Nash IS overrated.

    Should have never won those MVP’s.

    At this stage in his career, he MIGHT be in the top 15 as a PG.

    Ramon Sessions in 2012 might realistically be a better all around player.

    Shoots a higher % from 3, much better defensively.

    Those are facts.

    ————————

    Nash is not a 3 point shooter, he shot over 53% from the field, that is tops in the NBA for guards, add to that 10.7 assists per game, Sessions couldnt even start in Cleveland, he was a backup, wow

  887. Marks hair Says:

    The thunder just lost to a very incomplete heat team…

  888. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Looking at Nash & Sessions stats…

    With all due respect, you either are jaded by some sort of hate towards Nash or you have no clue what your talking about.

    The best argurment you can come up with is Sessions has a better 3 point %….WOW..

  889. J Hill Says:

    So…

    Dwight Howard to the Lakers for Bynum and Artest???

    Is that going to happen, DAV?

  890. RaiderRockstar Says:

    @Kentucky

    Branch will play out this season on the tag.

    According to Vit Tafur, the deadline to sign him long term is July 16th … I don’t think BigMac is giving him a Weddle/Griffith type contract

    heck, even the old contract Gibril Wilson got from Al Davis (6.5 mil per season) would be too rich imo

  891. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Marks hair Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 8:39 am
    The thunder just lost to a very incomplete heat team…

    —-

    Very incomplete..lol..

    That’s a huge overstatment to make your point a little prettier..

  892. Marks hair Says:

    Hahahahaha!! You poor ba$tards! Hahaha! CHAMPIONSHIP!!

  893. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    J Hill Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 8:41 am
    So…

    Dwight Howard to the Lakers for Bynum and Artest???

    Is that going to happen, DAV?

    —-

    Possible..

    Was more possible before the Lakers used the Odom exemption.

    We just re-signed Jameer Nelson so IDK whats gonna happen.

  894. J Hill Says:

    I think I might consider the Hawks offer for Howard for Bynum.

    Horford, Teague, and a #1 for Bynum???

    I really like Horford.

  895. Marks hair Says:

    Nobody covers sessions. Nash was the suns.. His job just got WAY easier..

  896. boss01 Says:

    The Lakers had the worst point guard play in the league last year, couldnt get the ball to Bynum or Gasol in the paint, now with Nash, finally the bigs will be fed, that spells championship, with or without Howard, dont even matter

  897. J Hill Says:

    Branch will cave and take the Reggime’s offer. If not, he’ll be free to go his way next year and make half as much for the Donkeys.

  898. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    J Hill Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 8:44 am
    I think I might consider the Hawks offer for Howard for Bynum.

    Horford, Teague, and a #1 for Bynum???

    I really like Horford.

    —-

    I like that deal for Howard too.

  899. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Lakers are definately the favorites in the West now

    the are stacked (on paper) , but I think JFB is correct in saying that they will exit in RD1 of the playoffs

    remember when Dan Snyder tried to buy a championship for the Redskins with Norv Turner as HC?

    brought a bunch of big named vets past their primes. result = flop!!

  900. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    boss01 Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 8:46 am
    The Lakers had the worst point guard play in the league last year, couldnt get the ball to Bynum or Gasol in the paint, now with Nash, finally the bigs will be fed, that spells championship, with or without Howard, dont even matter

    —-

    Well hold on there feller… You have to play defense still.

  901. Marks hair Says:

    The magic missed their window for teams that have something to give.. Dallas or houston maybe?

  902. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    No way Lakers are the favorites in the West.

    Thunder still have the edge at the same positions as last year.

  903. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Branch will cave and take the Reggime’s offer. If not, he’ll be free to go his way next year and make half as much for the Donkeys.

    ***

    agreed, Jhill

    and Palmer would abuse him – as he’s done at OTA’s

  904. Marks hair Says:

    The lakers have had a good defender at the point when??

  905. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Marks hair Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 8:47 am
    The magic missed their window for teams that have something to give.. Dallas or houston maybe?

    —-

    False.

    The deals get better the further into July we get.

    The more cap the Nets use, the better for us.

  906. boss01 Says:

    boss01 Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 8:46 am
    The Lakers had the worst point guard play in the league last year, couldnt get the ball to Bynum or Gasol in the paint, now with Nash, finally the bigs will be fed, that spells championship, with or without Howard, dont even matter

    —-

    Well hold on there feller… You have to play defense still.

    —————–

    Mike Brown is a defensive coach, with an offensive coordinator in Nash in place, now he can concentrate solely on defense, you got 2 7 footers, u got Artest, Kobe, defense wasnt a problem last year, it was the offense that sucked

  907. RaiderRockstar Says:

    the Nets are stupid. thats WAY too much coin for G-Wallace

    I dont think they want D-Howard bad enough. He wants to go there more than they want to bring him on board imo. I don’t think they’re going to sucker Orlando into taking useless scraps in exchange for him

  908. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    boss01 Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 8:50 am
    boss01 Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 8:46 am
    The Lakers had the worst point guard play in the league last year, couldnt get the ball to Bynum or Gasol in the paint, now with Nash, finally the bigs will be fed, that spells championship, with or without Howard, dont even matter

    —-

    Well hold on there feller… You have to play defense still.

    —————–

    Mike Brown is a defensive coach, with an offensive coordinator in Nash in place, now he can concentrate solely on defense, you got 2 7 footers, u got Artest, Kobe, defense wasnt a problem last year, it was the offense that sucked

    —-

    Ahh.. the Urban Legend that Artest can still play defense.

    You have Kobe who can play decent D still.

    Bynum can defend the post.

    Thats it.

    Sorry bub.

    And Mike Brown? Child Please.

  909. Raider O Says:

    I agree guys. I don’t think Reggie is going to give him the contract he is asking for, but I don’t think we are going to allow him to be a FA next year.
    He is a top 5 SS, and s top 10 S IMO.

  910. RaiderRockstar Says:

    all I’ve heard from Laker fans the past 2 months is that they need Howard at C & Williams at PG to compete …

    now they acquire old man Nash and dump a bunch of draft picks in doing so, and we’re told “CHAMPIONSHIP!!”

    too funny :P

  911. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Raider O Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 8:54 am
    I agree guys. I don’t think Reggie is going to give him the contract he is asking for, but I don’t think we are going to allow him to be a FA next year.
    He is a top 5 SS, and s top 10 S IMO.

    —-

    Tread lightly.. Branch haters are lurking.. :)

  912. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    4 years 30 million for Lin.. crazy what 30 games can do for you.

    Tim Thomas anyone?..

  913. hwnrdr Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 8:53 am
    boss01 Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 8:50 am
    boss01 Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 8:46 am
    The Lakers had the worst point guard play in the league last year, couldnt get the ball to Bynum or Gasol in the paint, now with Nash, finally the bigs will be fed, that spells championship, with or without Howard, dont even matter

    —-

    Well hold on there feller… You have to play defense still.

    —————–

    Mike Brown is a defensive coach, with an offensive coordinator in Nash in place, now he can concentrate solely on defense, you got 2 7 footers, u got Artest, Kobe, defense wasnt a problem last year, it was the offense that sucked

    —-

    Ahh.. the Urban Legend that Artest can still play defense.

    You have Kobe who can play decent D still.

    Bynum can defend the post.

    Thats it.

    Sorry bub.

    And Mike Brown? Child Please.

    When do you think that Artest lost his D edge?

  914. Method To My Madness Says:

    I love Nash as a point guard…he is an obvious HOF…but how does this help LA?

    He gonna guard CP3 and Westbrook? How about Tony Parker?…Mike Conley? Ty Lawson?….even rookie and Oakland Native Damian Lillard?

    And how about the main issue for LA named Kobe Bryant?
    You think he gonna change being the selfish d–k he has always been?

    LA will not win a title in the NBA…better pray the Dodgers win in MLB

  915. boss01 Says:

    Ahh.. the Urban Legend that Artest can still play defense.

    You have Kobe who can play decent D still.

    Bynum can defend the post.

    Thats it.

    Sorry bub.

    And Mike Brown? Child Please.

    —————————-

    You’re just a hater, Sessions is better than Nash? Child Please? Kiss the baby? bub? kick rocks

    BTW I’m not sure if Artest will be a Laker, I hope he is trade bait, Is Mike Brown not a defensive coach? I’m not sold on him either, but he is the Lakers coach, and he did take a Cavs roster with Lebron and a bunch of no names to the finals

  916. Marks hair Says:

    Wooooooo!!!

  917. Method To My Madness Says:

    What’s the over/under on the number of games it takes before Mike Brown loses the locker room and get canned?

    The B@uce will visit Staples this year in his Warriors gear as the Dubs clean the Lakers clock….then I’ma see what this LA Live this is all about….see if I can update my block report

  918. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    @ hwnrdr

    When he lost his ability to move his feet.

    He can guard the scrubs & slower guys.

    But the elite wingmen he used to own, not anymore

  919. Method To My Madness Says:

    After the smoke clears…..OKC vs Miami again in the finals…..only way that can be derailed is injury or if the Clippers get them an actual true to life swingman who is the go to guy….dont see that happening this season

  920. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    boss01 Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 9:01 am
    Ahh.. the Urban Legend that Artest can still play defense.

    You have Kobe who can play decent D still.

    Bynum can defend the post.

    Thats it.

    Sorry bub.

    And Mike Brown? Child Please.

    —————————-

    You’re just a hater, Sessions is better than Nash? Child Please? Kiss the baby? bub? kick rocks

    BTW I’m not sure if Artest will be a Laker, I hope he is trade bait, Is Mike Brown not a defensive coach? I’m not sold on him either, but he is the Lakers coach, and he did take a Cavs roster with Lebron and a bunch of no names to the finals

    —-

    I never said Sessions was better than Nash. I said the opposite.

    And please, dont resort to the ‘hater’ defense.

  921. boss01 Says:

    What’s the over/under on the number of games it takes before Mike Brown loses the locker room and get canned?

    —————–

    I hope he gets canned, that just increases the chances for a championship, especially if they bring back Phil, or even bring in Mike D’Antoni

  922. Raider O Says:

    RR,

    Branch was abused in OTAs? Maybe you are right, but I can’t remember.
    Link/ source please and Dont give me the ” I don’t want to argue/ you twist facts” crap.

  923. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    The Lakers lack the 2 most important things to defeat the Thunder or Heat.

    Defense on the wings & Defense at the rim.

  924. Method To My Madness Says:

    Look Laker fans….you lucked out winning the NBA finals in 09 and 2010 due to Celtics being injured….be happy with that and realize its over mayne. Kobe wont allow you guys to win a title with his selfish play….forget about it

  925. Method To My Madness Says:

    921.boss01 Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 9:06 am
    What’s the over/under on the number of games it takes before Mike Brown loses the locker room and get canned?

    —————–

    I hope he gets canned, that just increases the chances for a championship, especially if they bring back Phil, or even bring in Mike D’Antoni

    ********************

    Mike D’Antoni? LOL yes please get him…I need a good laugh at the needle threaded heart of a coach who preaches no D tries to win a title

  926. Raider O Says:

    Go Cavs!
    Go Clippers!
    Go Aztecs!
    Go Buckeyes!
    Go Italya!
    Go Argentina!

    Go Raiders!!!!!!
    Oleeeee
    Ole
    Ole
    Oleeeee
    Oleeee
    Oleee
    RAIDERS!

  927. Method To My Madness Says:

    923.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 9:07 am
    The Lakers lack the 2 most important things to defeat the Thunder or Heat.

    Defense on the wings & Defense at the rim.

    ****************

    And you forget their superstars will share…Kobe? Not so much

  928. Method To My Madness Says:

    926.Raider O Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 9:10 am
    Go Cavs!
    Go Clippers!
    Go Aztecs!
    Go Buckeyes!

    Go Raiders!!!!!!
    Oleeeee
    Ole
    Ole
    Oleeeee
    Oleeee
    Oleee
    RAIDERS!

    **************

    Much better….no lame soccer to drown everyone’s spirits

  929. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Statistically speaking, Kobe Bryant is now the 4th most efficient scorer in the Lakers lineup.

    THATS a problem.

  930. Method To My Madness Says:

    And how bout dem A’s? Only 4 out of Wildcard midseason….not bad…Lew Wolff sell dammit…get out of baseball cuz you are bad for the game

  931. hwnrdr Says:

    Crazy days ahead…looking forward to Aug 13th!

  932. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 9:12 am
    And how bout dem A’s? Only 4 out of Wildcard midseason….not bad…Lew Wolff sell dammit…get out of baseball cuz you are bad for the game

    —-

    I’d be mortally shocked if they finished higher than 3rd place.

  933. Method To My Madness Says:

    929.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 9:11 am
    Statistically speaking, Kobe Bryant is now the 4th most efficient scorer in the Lakers lineup.

    THATS a problem.

    *********************

    Dude is the 3rd best player on the team….Laker fans wont admit this…the two 7 ft guys ar the best players…Kobe knows it and wont give it up

  934. J Hill Says:

    Are you cats assuming OKC is bringing Ibaka and Harden back?

    Or do you have them winning the West even with one of them leaving?

  935. Raider O Says:

    B,

    don’t worry bro, next huge soccer event is in 2014.
    WC in Brazil and Argentina wins!

  936. Method To My Madness Says:

    932.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 9:13 am
    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 9:12 am
    And how bout dem A’s? Only 4 out of Wildcard midseason….not bad…Lew Wolff sell dammit…get out of baseball cuz you are bad for the game

    —-

    I’d be mortally shocked if they finished higher than 3rd place.

    ************

    They wont finish higher than 3rd…remember baseball now has two wildcards…we 4 games out..so we can finish 3rd and still get in

  937. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    J Hill Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 9:15 am
    Are you cats assuming OKC is bringing Ibaka and Harden back?

    Or do you have them winning the West even with one of them leaving?

    —-

    Ibaka & Harden arent FA’s until next off-season..

    Meow..

  938. Method To My Madness Says:

    935.Raider O Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 9:15 am
    B,

    don’t worry bro, next huge soccer event is in 2014.
    WC in Brazil and Argentina wins!

    **************

    Cuz its in Brazil I’ll pay attention lol…for obvious reasons

  939. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 9:16 am
    932.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 9:13 am
    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 9:12 am
    And how bout dem A’s? Only 4 out of Wildcard midseason….not bad…Lew Wolff sell dammit…get out of baseball cuz you are bad for the game

    —-

    I’d be mortally shocked if they finished higher than 3rd place.

    ************

    They wont finish higher than 3rd…remember baseball now has two wildcards…we 4 games out..so we can finish 3rd and still get in

    —-

    I meant 3rd in the AL West..

  940. Method To My Madness Says:

    937.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 9:16 am
    J Hill Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 9:15 am
    Are you cats assuming OKC is bringing Ibaka and Harden back?

    Or do you have them winning the West even with one of them leaving?

    —-

    Ibaka & Harden arent FA’s until next off-season..

    Meow..

    ************

    Jhill’s heart just sunk to his purple and yellow boots lol

  941. Method To My Madness Says:

    939.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 9:18 am
    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 9:16 am
    932.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 9:13 am
    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 9:12 am
    And how bout dem A’s? Only 4 out of Wildcard midseason….not bad…Lew Wolff sell dammit…get out of baseball cuz you are bad for the game

    —-

    I’d be mortally shocked if they finished higher than 3rd place.

    ************

    They wont finish higher than 3rd…remember baseball now has two wildcards…we 4 games out..so we can finish 3rd and still get in

    —-

    I meant 3rd in the AL West..

    ***********************

    Texas=division winner
    Angels= first WC
    A’s= 2nd WC

  942. guest123 Says:

    basketball?

    baseball?

    what other non-Oakland Raiders talk is out there?

    new thoughts?

  943. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 9:19 am
    939.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 9:18 am
    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 9:16 am
    932.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 9:13 am
    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 9:12 am
    And how bout dem A’s? Only 4 out of Wildcard midseason….not bad…Lew Wolff sell dammit…get out of baseball cuz you are bad for the game

    —-

    I’d be mortally shocked if they finished higher than 3rd place.

    ************

    They wont finish higher than 3rd…remember baseball now has two wildcards…we 4 games out..so we can finish 3rd and still get in

    —-

    I meant 3rd in the AL West..

    ***********************

    Texas=division winner
    Angels= first WC
    A’s= 2nd WC

    —-

    Yea I know, but 5 teams ahead of you for that last spot right now.

    Thats a lot of traffic to get through.

  944. J Hill Says:

    Dude is the 3rd best player on the team….Laker fans wont admit this…the two 7 ft guys ar the best players

    ———————————————————–

    Kobe played with Fisher and an outta shape Artest on the perimeter. OF COURSE he went into gunner mode with those dudes throwing up brick after brick.

    So you’re sitting there with a straight face telling me that Nash is going to ignore Gasol and Bynum and only pass to Kobe?

    LOL!

  945. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    guest123 Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 9:20 am
    basketball?

    baseball?

    what other non-Oakland Raiders talk is out there?

    new thoughts?

    —-

    Would you like to contribute?

  946. boss01 Says:

    923.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 9:07 am
    The Lakers lack the 2 most important things to defeat the Thunder or Heat.

    Defense on the wings & Defense at the rim.

    ****************

    And you forget their superstars will share…Kobe? Not so much
    ———————-

    I recall 2 championships with relatively the same roster, they had D Fish as the point guard who couldnt guard his own shadow, I recall Kobe sharing enough to win 5 championships total, and now he has the ultimate sharer as his point guard

  947. DutchRaider77 Says:

    My buddy’s brother in law is David Freeze, need help stuffing the ballot box for him. Please vote Freeze! I understand you can tell me to Phuck off!

    http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/events/all_star/y2012/fv/ballot.jsp

  948. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    boss01 Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 9:23 am
    923.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 9:07 am
    The Lakers lack the 2 most important things to defeat the Thunder or Heat.

    Defense on the wings & Defense at the rim.

    ****************

    And you forget their superstars will share…Kobe? Not so much
    ———————-

    I recall 2 championships with relatively the same roster, they had D Fish as the point guard who couldnt guard his own shadow, I recall Kobe sharing enough to win 5 championships total, and now he has the ultimate sharer as his point guard

    —-

    I dont recall the Thunder or Heat being there.

    I do recall Shaq being there though..

  949. J Hill Says:

    Ibaka & Harden arent FA’s until next off-season..

    ———————————————————-

    What question were you trying to answer?

    You know OKC was talking about trading Harden for the #2 pick, right?

    You know both Ibaka and Harden want extensions NOW, right?

    Does OKC let them get to UFA and risk losing them for nothing?

  950. Method To My Madness Says:

    942.guest123 Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 9:20 am
    basketball?

    baseball?

    what other non-Oakland Raiders talk is out there?

    new thoughts?

    ************

    End of July

  951. RaiderRockstar Says:

    @Kentucky

    I don’t need to convert you to Branch realism

    look at the stats. watch a few games

    belief is growing in some NFL circles that he was just a product of the Davis/Bresnahan/Woodson/Ross coaching scheme in a contract year with not much to show outside of a bloated tackle #’s and that he’ll flop under Allen/Tarver/Lynn/Lopez in 2012 if he gets paid big money

    I don’t want to piss in your kool-aid , so lets just say “wait & see” in regards to Gibril Wilson 2.0

    cool, brosama?

  952. Method To My Madness Says:

    949.J Hill Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 9:24 am
    Ibaka & Harden arent FA’s until next off-season..

    ———————————————————-

    What question were you trying to answer?

    You know OKC was talking about trading Harden for the #2 pick, right?

    You know both Ibaka and Harden want extensions NOW, right?

    Does OKC let them get to UFA and risk losing them for nothing?

    ****************

    They’ll keep them more than likely…even if one leaves they still way better than lakers…getting perry jones sealed it in the west

  953. Raider O Says:

    Lol B. Soccer will be a lot more interesting in Brazil.

  954. Method To My Madness Says:

    946.boss01 Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 9:23 am
    923.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 9:07 am
    The Lakers lack the 2 most important things to defeat the Thunder or Heat.

    Defense on the wings & Defense at the rim.

    ****************

    And you forget their superstars will share…Kobe? Not so much
    ———————-

    I recall 2 championships with relatively the same roster, they had D Fish as the point guard who couldnt guard his own shadow, I recall Kobe sharing enough to win 5 championships total, and now he has the ultimate sharer as his point guard

    **************

    Typical Laker fan……..same roster? Fisher gone…ariza gone…sacha gone…farmar gone…odom gone

    Kobe was young with SHAQ on those first 3 and becuz of his selfishness he blew the 4th and 5th with Shaq in 2003 and 2004

  955. hellsbells Says:

    Haters come out and play

    Kobe has many rings, choker he is not.

    RR hater/bandwagon heat fan.

    the end

  956. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    J Hill Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 9:24 am
    Ibaka & Harden arent FA’s until next off-season..

    ———————————————————-

    What question were you trying to answer?

    You know OKC was talking about trading Harden for the #2 pick, right?

    You know both Ibaka and Harden want extensions NOW, right?

    Does OKC let them get to UFA and risk losing them for nothing?

    —-

    I was just answering your question…? lol..

    But ya, They amnesty Perkins & the problem is solved.

  957. Method To My Madness Says:

    Boss01….you Laker fans are embarrassing in LA…that smug attitude permeates in evert facet of life for you guys especially with the Lakers and USC

  958. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    hellsbells Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 9:29 am

    Kobe has many rings, choker he is not.

    —-

    lol.. Yoda???

  959. Method To My Madness Says:

    955.hellsbells Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 9:29 am
    Haters come out and play

    Kobe has many rings, choker he is not.

    RR hater/bandwagon heat fan.

    the end

    **********

    So fuggin what he has rings…point is his selfish ass aint winning anymore and the Nash deal does nada to bring them to beating OKC

  960. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    But if the Thunder were smart they would ship Harden & Ibaka to Orlando for Dwight.

    THAT would be the real big 3.

    Westbrook / Durant / Howard

  961. Method To My Madness Says:

    956.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 9:29 am
    J Hill Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 9:24 am
    Ibaka & Harden arent FA’s until next off-season..

    ———————————————————-

    What question were you trying to answer?

    You know OKC was talking about trading Harden for the #2 pick, right?

    You know both Ibaka and Harden want extensions NOW, right?

    Does OKC let them get to UFA and risk losing them for nothing?

    —-

    I was just answering your question…? lol..

    But ya, They amnesty Perkins & the problem is solved.

    **********************

    Yeah Perkins needs to go period…no lift and not enough of a threat under the bucket when needed..it was obvious in the finals

  962. Raider O Says:

    So he wasn’t abused in OTAs?
    Got it Scottie!

  963. Method To My Madness Says:

    960.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 9:32 am
    But if the Thunder were smart they would ship Harden & Ibaka to Orlando for Dwight.

    THAT would be the real big 3.

    Westbrook / Durant / Howard

    *************

    Step n Fetch It doesnt wanna play in middle America

  964. hwnrdr Says:

    LOL, Kobe won his 4th and 5th because he learned to be a team player. I agree, 2003 and 2004, yes, his selfishness killed it. And Boston getting hurt….well, maybe 2009. 2010, yes, Perkins went out with a back injury, but they still could have won it in game 7. That was a brick that Rondo threw up!

    As for the A’s…they are playing better than anyone could have thought they would at this point! You never know!

  965. Oakland Raiders - Inside the Oakland Raiders - A look inside the world of the highly classified Oakland Raiders from the writers of the Bay Area News Group... Says:

    And a bunch of other crap, too.

  966. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Jameer Nelson – 6.5/yr

    Great value signing by Hennigan.

  967. Method To My Madness Says:

    964.hwnrdr Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 9:35 am
    LOL, Kobe won his 4th and 5th because he learned to be a team player. I agree, 2003 and 2004, yes, his selfishness killed it. And Boston getting hurt….well, maybe 2009. 2010, yes, Perkins went out with a back injury, but they still could have won it in game 7. That was a brick that Rondo threw up!

    As for the A’s…they are playing better than anyone could have thought they would at this point! You never know!
    *******************************

    KG hurt for 09 playoffs…Perkins blew out his ACL game 6 2010 finals…Kobe played less selfish and then went right back to after winning becuz he felt he was closing in on overrated ass MJ

    A’s rule

  968. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    hwnrdr Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 9:35 am
    LOL, Kobe won his 4th and 5th because he learned to be a team player. I agree, 2003 and 2004, yes, his selfishness killed it. And Boston getting hurt….well, maybe 2009. 2010, yes, Perkins went out with a back injury, but they still could have won it in game 7. That was a brick that Rondo threw up!

    As for the A’s…they are playing better than anyone could have thought they would at this point! You never know!

    —-

    I though Perk blew his ACL??..

  969. hwnrdr Says:

    Step n Fetch It doesnt wanna play in middle America

    Good one B!

  970. J Hill Says:

    Who’s guarding Bynum if they Amnesty Perkins?

  971. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Sox rule.

  972. DJ Johnny Says:

    I used to look at the pre-season (football) as kind of a throw-away and unimportant until last yr. when almost every flaw we saw from the Raiders in the preseason came to fruition in reg. season.

    They showed very early they couldn’t stop the run, the offense would be decent, penalties would be a problem, and certain players were not going to be good.

    “They’re playing their vanilla defense schemes…they’ll be fine” some said. Problem is there was absolutely no evidence shown in preseason that would be the case.

    I believe (after last preseason) that when teams get hammered (like Raiders did) in 2nd half of preseason games it suggests a lack of depth; that proved true last reg. season as well.

    I’ll be watching the preseason games closely…looking for signs that this team is gonna be something.

    Final score of those games doesn’t matter, but you see stuff in those games that eneds up being important and translating over to reg. season.

  973. hwnrdr Says:

    Ok, you’re right, Perkins blew his ACL…who had the back injury? Bynum?

  974. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    J Hill Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 9:37 am
    Who’s guarding Bynum if they Amnesty Perkins?

    —-

    He probably wont have the ball, but Ibaka would be guarding him. Along with Thabeet & Nazr..

  975. Method To My Madness Says:

    971.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 9:37 am
    Sox rule.

    ***********

    Broomed

  976. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 9:39 am
    971.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 9:37 am
    Sox rule.

    ***********

    Broomed

    —-

    WHITE SOX

  977. Method To My Madness Says:

    974.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 9:39 am
    J Hill Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 9:37 am
    Who’s guarding Bynum if they Amnesty Perkins?

    —-

    He probably wont have the ball, but Ibaka would be guarding him. Along with Thabeet & Nazr..

    *******

    LOL Thabeet thats funny..Bynum would kill him…but kobe wont pass it to him enough lol

  978. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    3 year 9 million for Kidd to stay in Dallas.

    Takes him to age 42..

  979. Method To My Madness Says:

    976.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 9:40 am
    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 9:39 am
    971.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 9:37 am
    Sox rule.

    ***********

    Broomed

    —-

    WHITE SOX

    ***********

    oh the second known sox…ok…no prob with them at all….better than the cubs

  980. hwnrdr Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 9:41 am
    3 year 9 million for Kidd to stay in Dallas.

    Takes him to age 42..

    Interesting!

  981. Method To My Madness Says:

    978.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 9:41 am
    3 year 9 million for Kidd to stay in Dallas.

    Takes him to age 42..

    **********

    He needs to sit down

  982. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Kidd & that contract can still play, but it only makes sense on a contendor.. the Mavs are far from that.

  983. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Brees, Palmer & Boller working out together in LA today..

    TO catching passes from them.

  984. DJ Johnny Says:

    The fact the lockout happened before preseason may have played into the teams flaws being carried over a bit.

    As far as final score of those games..yeah they don’t mean squat normally. 85 Bears were 0-4 in preseason and u can cite many other examples. Heck…we were 0-4 and then won our 1st game on the road at Denver…but I wonder if some teams need preseason wins more than others.

    Teams who know they’re good don’t care, but I wonder if some teams need ANY kind of win to help their psyche’s…tema who aren’t sure who they are yet. Just a thought.

    Traditionally though, preseason wins haven’t meant jack.

  985. hwnrdr Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 9:44 am
    Brees, Palmer & Boller working out together in LA today..

    TO catching passes from them.

    OK, you lost me at Boller! :)

  986. Method To My Madness Says:

    982.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 9:43 am
    Kidd & that contract can still play, but it only makes sense on a contendor.. the Mavs are far from that.

    *********

    “All you old rappers trying to advance its all over now take it like a man”

  987. Method To My Madness Says:

    983.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 9:44 am
    Brees, Palmer & Boller working out together in LA today..

    TO catching passes from them.

    ************

    Boller must be working on his shoeshining skills….Brees is laughing at Palmer like yeah right as if you will ever be elite again

    TO needs to catch a life first

  988. DJ Johnny Says:

    Is Kyle Boller on an nfl team right now?

  989. Method To My Madness Says:

    984.DJ Johnny Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 9:45 am
    The fact the lockout happened before preseason may have played into the teams flaws being carried over a bit.

    As far as final score of those games..yeah they don’t mean squat normally. 85 Bears were 0-4 in preseason and u can cite many other examples. Heck…we were 0-4 and then won our 1st game on the road at Denver…but I wonder if some teams need preseason wins more than others.

    Teams who know they’re good don’t care, but I wonder if some teams need ANY kind of win to help their psyche’s…tema who aren’t sure who they are yet. Just a thought.

    Traditionally though, preseason wins haven’t meant jack.

    ********

    But preseason play does matter…need to see we have depth

  990. Method To My Madness Says:

    988.DJ Johnny Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 9:47 am
    Is Kyle Boller on an nfl team right now?

    *****************

    He would get cut at the local Flag Football league

  991. DJ Johnny Says:

    987.Method To My Madness Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 9:47 am
    983.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 9:44 am
    Brees, Palmer & Boller working out together in LA today..

    TO catching passes from them.

    ************

    Boller must be working on his shoeshining skills….Brees is laughing at Palmer like yeah right as if you will ever be elite again

    TO needs to catch a life first

    And Palmer is looking down on Brees saying “laff in my face beyotch”.

  992. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Did Hue Jackson have a hand in the trade for Nash. 2 1’s and 2′2’s for a 38 yr old point guard. 5 yrs ago would have made sense but the Sun’s got to be putting away the KY.

  993. Method To My Madness Says:

    991.DJ Johnny Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 9:49 am
    987.Method To My Madness Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 9:47 am
    983.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 9:44 am
    Brees, Palmer & Boller working out together in LA today..

    TO catching passes from them.

    ************

    Boller must be working on his shoeshining skills….Brees is laughing at Palmer like yeah right as if you will ever be elite again

    TO needs to catch a life first

    And Palmer is looking down on Brees saying “laff in my face beyotch”.

    ***********

    LOL good one

  994. Method To My Madness Says:

    992.exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 9:50 am
    Did Hue Jackson have a hand in the trade for Nash. 2 1’s and 2′2’s for a 38 yr old point guard. 5 yrs ago would have made sense but the Sun’s got to be putting away the KY.

    ************

    ouch!

  995. DJ Johnny Says:

    Method, I thought you were a Palmer guy…sort of.

  996. Method To My Madness Says:

    995.DJ Johnny Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 9:56 am
    Method, I thought you were a Palmer guy…sort of.

    **************************

    All I’ll say to that is look at USC Qbs in the nfl and their track record and see if im a Palmer guy

  997. hwnrdr Says:

    Yes, but one could argue that had Palmer not get rolled on by Kimo von Oerfen (SP?) then maybe that could hav been there year as well! :)

  998. Marks hair Says:

    Hahahahahahaha!!!! Woooooo!! Another Laker title team! Su(k it! Hahahahaha!

  999. DJ Johnny Says:

    996.Method To My Madness Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 9:58 am
    995.DJ Johnny Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 9:56 am
    Method, I thought you were a Palmer guy…sort of.

    **************************

    All I’ll say to that is look at USC Qbs in the nfl and their track record and see if im a Palmer guy

    Damn…you had to play the “former USC QB’s in the NFL” card on me…

    What about Marinovich, or Leinart, or….never mind.

  1000. Method To My Madness Says:

    997.hwnrdr Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 10:00 am
    Yes, but one could argue that had Palmer not get rolled on by Kimo von Oerfen (SP?) then maybe that could hav been there year as well!

    ************

    Champions come back from adverse conditions

  1001. Method To My Madness Says:

    998.Marks hair Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 10:00 am
    Hahahahahahaha!!!! Woooooo!! Another Laker title team! Su(k it! Hahahahaha!

    *************************

    Nash is 38 and you guys dont have the athletes to beat out OKC…hell LAC will be better t6han Lakers this year

  1002. MistaBrown Says:

    Nash is old & washed up.

    Enjoy!

  1003. Method To My Madness Says:

    999.DJ Johnny Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 10:01 am
    996.Method To My Madness Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 9:58 am
    995.DJ Johnny Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 9:56 am
    Method, I thought you were a Palmer guy…sort of.

    **************************

    All I’ll say to that is look at USC Qbs in the nfl and their track record and see if im a Palmer guy

    Damn…you had to play the “former USC QB’s in the NFL” card on me…

    What about Marinovich, or Leinart, or….never mind.

    **************

    USC Qbs dont win SBs lmao

  1004. Marks hair Says:

    Bynum gas & nash = playoffs + kobe = championship
    Hahaha you poor ba$tards.. Hahaha

  1005. DJ Johnny Says:

    I’m on board with Palmer… i’m a card carrying fan…always liked him. Love those lazers he throws and his “gutsiness” to take a shot. He has good leadership by all appearences and i think he did a good job in Cincy with an overall sub par team.

    That being said, i can understand some of the nay-saying.

  1006. Method To My Madness Says:

    1002.MistaBrown Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 10:04 am
    Nash is old & washed up.

    Enjoy!

    ***********

    Laker fans are entitled lol

  1007. Marks hair Says:

    Washed up 2012 all star hahaha funny stuff..

  1008. Silverandblack666 Says:

    I am a huge Palmer fan!

  1009. Method To My Madness Says:

    1004.Marks hair Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 10:05 am
    Bynum gas & nash = playoffs + kobe = championship
    Hahaha you poor ba$tards.. Hahaha

    *************

    Yeah sure Nash not enough to help Lakers win schit….Kobe is the deciding factor on why you wont win…Bynum doesnt even wanna be near Kobe

  1010. Method To My Madness Says:

    Laker fans…live in reality….you not beating OKC at all

  1011. Marks hair Says:

    The lakers have been in the final almost half of my life! The gold standard..

  1012. Method To My Madness Says:

    So when Lakers play OKC….who guards Westbrook? LOL

  1013. Method To My Madness Says:

    1011.Marks hair Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 10:08 am
    The lakers have been in the final almost half of my life! The gold standard..

    ************************

    Yeah we figured you were about 13 or 14

  1014. MistaBrown Says:

    Nash is good for 18 mins a night as long as your not on a back 2 back and then its prob 15

    lol

  1015. MistaBrown Says:

    I think the W’s will edge out LA for the 8th seed.

    haha

  1016. Method To My Madness Says:

    Mista….in west playoffs Nash gonna lock down CP3 or Westbrook?

  1017. Method To My Madness Says:

    1015.MistaBrown Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 10:09 am
    I think the W’s will edge out LA for the 8th seed.

    haha

    ****************

    Warriors= 6th seed

  1018. Method To My Madness Says:

    OKC=1st
    LAC=2nd
    Spurs=3rd
    Lakers=4th
    Jazz=5th
    Warriors=6th
    Blazers 7th
    Wolves=8th

  1019. Marks hair Says:

    Try 34 lame.. Thats 10 titles.. A W fan or clipper boy wouldnt know what a championship roster looks like.. LAKERS!!!

  1020. MistaBrown Says:

    He will lock down neither and even Steph Curry can defend Nash these days.
    ______

    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 10:10 am

    Mista….in west playoffs Nash gonna lock down CP3 or Westbrook?

  1021. Method To My Madness Says:

    yep…i dont have grizzlies in playoffs this year…injuries and loss of Mayo will hurt more than most will know this season…team bout to be broken up

  1022. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Raider = 1st

    Screw the rest!

  1023. MistaBrown Says:

    The W’s have indeed won a championship.
    ______

    Marks hair Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 10:16 am

    Try 34 lame.. Thats 10 titles.. A W fan or clipper boy wouldnt know what a championship roster looks like.. LAKERS!!!

  1024. Method To My Madness Says:

    1019.Marks hair Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 10:16 am
    Try 34 lame.. Thats 10 titles.. A W fan or clipper boy wouldnt know what a championship roster looks like.. LAKERS!!!

    ******************

    Yeah sure Lakerphag…you are faker than Jerry Buss’ hair

    W’s fans=way more knowledgable about the game than Laker fans

  1025. Method To My Madness Says:

    MistaBrown Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 10:16 am
    He will lock down neither and even Steph Curry can defend Nash these days.
    ______

    *************

    Gonna be funny watching Curry abuse Nash this season

  1026. Silverandblack666 Says:

    I wonder if we can get Dj Sullie Fresh to spin a few poorly sampled, off key, out of date beats at the half time show during a Warriors game?

  1027. Method To My Madness Says:

    Laker fans celebrating getting older while OKC is a juggernaut who just added more talent to their roster….Clippers are a young team that you barely edged out for Pacific div crown…..you guys never can be serious with yourselves

  1028. Method To My Madness Says:

    1026.Silverandblack666 Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 10:20 am
    I wonder if we can get Dj Sullie Fresh to spin a few poorly sampled, off key, out of date beats at the half time show during a Warriors game?

    *************

    Felony?

  1029. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “The W’s have indeed won a championship.”

    Guessing during the Rick Berry era 1970’s as I am not a basketball fan and would not know the answer.

  1030. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “Felony?”

    Yes indeed and I am convinced that the FBI, CIA, and Secret Service have started many files because of this blog and the digital threats DJ Sullie Fresh receives every day.

    I wonder if he could get on the Dr Phil show with his anti-email bully campaign?

    I am sure all the profits from his DJ’ing go to his anti bully fund.

  1031. DJ Johnny Says:

    1029.Silverandblack666 Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 10:22 am
    “The W’s have indeed won a championship.”

    Guessing during the Rick Berry era 1970’s as I am not a basketball fan and would not know the answer.

    Yes. The Al Attles coached Warriors with Rick Barry and Nate Thurmond leading the way.

    My dad has told me the story how they beat Chicago (Van Lier, Bob Love, Chet Walker, Jerry Sloan) in the conf. finals in 76?

    Bulls were up 15 in 2nd half at Oakland in game 7 and W’s came back to beat ‘em.

  1032. DJ Johnny Says:

    When u think about it, what a great decade for Oakland sports in the 70’s.

    A’s, Raiders, W’s all perennial contenders with 5 major sports championships before it was all said and done.

    I’f i’m not mistaken, i think even the Golden Seals had a decent run.

  1033. Method To My Madness Says:

    1032.DJ Johnny Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 10:30 am
    When u think about it, what a great decade for Oakland sports in the 70’s.

    A’s, Raiders, W’s all perennial contenders with 5 major sports championships before it was all said and done.

    I’f i’m not mistaken, i think even the Golden Seals had a decent run.

    **************

    And we will be back to that…stay tuned

  1034. DJ Johnny Says:

    Talk about flamboyant owners….Charlie Finley and Al Davis…?

    Joe Rudi, Sal Bando, Reggie Jackson, Vida Blue, Ken Holtzman???

    Didn’t A’s win 3 in a row?

  1035. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “When u think about it, what a great decade for Oakland sports in the 70’s.

    A’s, Raiders, W’s all perennial contenders with 5 major sports championships before it was all said and done.

    I’f i’m not mistaken, i think even the Golden Seals had a decent run.”

    Reggie Jackson said if they would have kept that 73 A’s team together they would have won 5 more world series.

  1036. boss01 Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 9:29 am
    Boss01….you Laker fans are embarrassing in LA…that smug attitude permeates in evert facet of life for you guys especially with the Lakers and USC
    ————-

    Yeah 16 championships tends to create or permeate a little swag…..tell u what’s embarrassing is being a dubs fan openly, now that’s laughable

  1037. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Mavs going after Sessions..

    Crawford leaning towards Clips..

  1038. boss01 Says:

    How many rings does OKC have again?

  1039. Method To My Madness Says:

    1036.boss01 Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 10:34 am
    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 9:29 am
    Boss01….you Laker fans are embarrassing in LA…that smug attitude permeates in evert facet of life for you guys especially with the Lakers and USC
    ————-

    Yeah 16 championships tends to create or permeate a little swag…..tell u what’s embarrassing is being a dubs fan openly, now that’s laughable

    ******************

    actually….those titles in Minny do not count…so cowardly of you countin them…LA Lakers have 11…stop riding the next city’s d–k

    I’m from Oakland and rep my team…I’m no bandwagon guy at all…its called being a man

  1040. hwnrdr Says:

    DJ Johnny Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 10:32 am
    Talk about flamboyant owners….Charlie Finley and Al Davis…?

    Joe Rudi, Sal Bando, Reggie Jackson, Vida Blue, Ken Holtzman???

    Didn’t A’s win 3 in a row?

    Yes! 71-73? or 72-74? memory is shot!

  1041. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    boss01 Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 10:37 am
    How many rings does OKC have again?

    —-

    1

  1042. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    I have no clue what that has to do with the current Lakers & Thunder teams but…ya..

  1043. Method To My Madness Says:

    1038.boss01 Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 10:37 am
    How many rings does OKC have again?

    *************

    OKC has none as they have only been in OKC a few years moron…if it were time to be a coward one can say they have a title…Sonics won in 79 and that is the same franchise but they are in a different city

    But what does that have to do with OKC currently being better than the Lakers? Typical Lakerphag from LA….cant accept reality

  1044. hwnrdr Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 10:39 am
    boss01 Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 10:37 am
    How many rings does OKC have again?

    —-

    1

    LOL, I guess, same franchise!

  1045. Method To My Madness Says:

    1042.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 10:39 am
    I have no clue what that has to do with the current Lakers & Thunder teams but…ya..

    **********

    Only 5 pct of Laker fans are smart…Boss01 is from the 95 percentile of morons

  1046. boss01 Says:

    That’s still 11 more than the dubs, OKC and 9 more than the Heat, and I’m from LA so I’m not a bandwagon guy either

  1047. hwnrdr Says:

    you mean 10 more

  1048. boss01 Says:

    So by all accounts then the LA Raiders have 3 rings?

  1049. Method To My Madness Says:

    1048.boss01 Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 10:43 am
    So by all accounts then the LA Raiders have 3 rings?

    ******************

    OAKLAND RAIDERS have 3….not LA’s team…it was proven time and time again….prepare for the Rams and Chargers in LA

  1050. Method To My Madness Says:

    1046.boss01 Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 10:40 am
    That’s still 11 more than the dubs, OKC and 9 more than the Heat, and I’m from LA so I’m not a bandwagon guy either

    **********

    you from LA? Yeah we see the lack of brains…dont make it too obvious next time

    Warriors have one title…do you not know nba history?

  1051. boss01 Says:

    Love the HATE towards LA, keep that hate coming, and its gonna be a USC Trojan leading the Raiders to the playoffs this year

  1052. DJ Johnny Says:

    Anybody who’s been on this blog living and dying with the Raiders on a regular basis deserves ‘non bandwagon” status for at least that.

    When we get really good again, the bandwaggoners will show their colors.

  1053. Method To My Madness Says:

    1051.boss01 Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 10:45 am
    Love the HATE towards LA, keep that hate coming, and its gonna be a USC Trojan leading the Raiders to the playoffs this year

    *********

    And like all USC qbs in NFL they dont win SBs

  1054. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    I dont care where the Raiders play.

    We have 3 rings, period.

  1055. Method To My Madness Says:

    1052.DJ Johnny Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 10:45 am
    Anybody who’s been on this blog living and dying with the Raiders on a regular basis deserves ‘non bandwagon” status for at least that.

    When we get really good again, the bandwaggoners will show their colors.

    ***********

    Im at every game….someone from my bloodline has been at every game in the bay area since 1960….from day one so we know where i stand…i go to every game for damn sure

  1056. DJ Johnny Says:

    1053.Method To My Madness Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 10:46 am
    1051.boss01 Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 10:45 am
    Love the HATE towards LA, keep that hate coming, and its gonna be a USC Trojan leading the Raiders to the playoffs this year

    *********

    And like all USC qbs in NFL they dont win SBs

    I think Palmer’s a guy who can get it done though.

  1057. hwnrdr Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 10:47 am
    I dont care where the Raiders play.

    We have 3 rings, period.

    AMEN!

  1058. Method To My Madness Says:

    1054.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 10:47 am
    I dont care where the Raiders play.

    We have 3 rings, period.
    ***********

    ZZZZZZZZZZZ Duece…Oakland is their home and only place they belong…LA move damn near ruined franchise…spare me that i dont care where they play garbage

  1059. boss01 Says:

    Ok can’t blame me since I wasn’t even born the last time the warriors won a championship, what was it in75? With Rick Barry right? That was a long time ago

  1060. Method To My Madness Says:

    Oakland<——-synonomous with the Raiders….point blank with no substitutes…LA was a road trip….put on your Rams and Charger jerseys

  1061. Method To My Madness Says:

    1059.boss01 Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 10:49 am
    Ok can’t blame me since I wasn’t even born the last time the warriors won a championship, what was it in75? With Rick Barry right? That was a long time ago

    ***********

    What does that Larry Bird commercial say? THIS IS PERMANENT….next

  1062. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    Was it two firsts and seconds for Nash ?

    If so, Lakers don’t have much draft pick ammo left to be used in trades.

    Course, they still might be able to package their big men in an attempt to get Howard.

    In the NBA, you’ve got to have a superstar to win the title.

    Howard is a superstar I wouldn’t give a plugged nickle for. Good shot blocker and decent rebounder, needs work on his offensive game. Wouldn’t want him due to his ’should I stay or should I go’ antics and back issues. Predict any team paying a ransom for him will ultimately be very disappointed.

    Think Nash trade helps Lakers short term and for them it’s all about getting another title before Kobe is done.

    One other Bball prediction – Derrick Rose will only be a shell of himself and never be a top flight player again. Too bad, because his athleticism, leaping ability and willingness to take it inside against the Redwoods made him exciting to watch.

    I’m ready for some football.

  1063. boss01 Says:

    Yeah Larry Bird has 3 rings , 2 more than the dubs and OKC

  1064. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Toronto Raiders? still a fan.

    Japan Raiders? still a fan.

    New Mexico Raiders? still a fan.

    Merced Raiders? STILL THE RAIDERS.

    PERIOD.

  1065. boss01 Says:

    Let’s not forget that according to Al Davis himself, the 83 LA Raiders were the greatest team ever assembled

  1066. Method To My Madness Says:

    1064.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 10:53 am
    Toronto Raiders? still a fan.

    Japan Raiders? still a fan.

    New Mexico Raiders? still a fan.

    Merced Raiders? STILL THE RAIDERS.

    PERIOD.
    ************

    And I’m not a fan

    The attitude and mystique comes from Oakland…all that you follow was becuz of the area they are from….the Raiders werent the Raiders in LA…it was counterfeit…why the fk do you think Al came home?

  1067. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Dwight Howard is a decent rebounder?..lol..

    That’s like saying Kevin Durant is a decent scorer.

  1068. DJ Johnny Says:

    1055.Method To My Madness Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 10:47 am
    1052.DJ Johnny Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 10:45 am
    Anybody who’s been on this blog living and dying with the Raiders on a regular basis deserves ‘non bandwagon” status for at least that.

    When we get really good again, the bandwaggoners will show their colors.

    ***********

    Im at every game….someone from my bloodline has been at every game in the bay area since 1960….from day one so we know where i stand…i go to every game for damn sure

    I’ve been to (2) Raider games in my life…both in Chicago.

    I did “represent” with Raider colors of course.

    They won both games.

    The worst one was when Raiders had the game locked up. Myself and a few other Raider fans were whooping it up when we were up 15-6 late in the 4th.

    Raiders gave up the obligatory late “garbage” TD ..don’t they always do that? Anyway, it’s 15-13 now with just over a minute left and Bears do an onside kick…and RECOVER and drive the field easily to the point where Butler has a 28 yarder to inexplicably win a game they had no business winning.

    He misses it left and the Raiders escape.

    Unbelieveable.

  1069. Method To My Madness Says:

    1065.boss01 Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 10:54 am
    Let’s not forget that according to Al Davis himself, the 83 LA Raiders were the greatest team ever assembled

    **********

    76 Raiders were by far the best team ever assembled for us

  1070. Method To My Madness Says:

    83 Raiders were 90 pct of the 80 team that won the title fkin idiot…and what happened after 83 title? Went Hollywood…hence went LA and it went downhill and we still stuck becuz of that…Al knew he fked up…had he stayed in Oakland…we have 5-6 titles period

    Rod Martin is from LA and said they didnt belong there…so shut the fk up dummy

  1071. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Im saying, me personally, I am a Raider fan wherever they are, have been, or will go.

    You guys are all entitled to your own opinion.

  1072. boss01 Says:

    76 Raiders were by far the best team ever assembled for us

    ———–

    Yeah u know more than Al Davis about the raiders I’m sure

  1073. Method To My Madness Says:

    Duece people like you use that i dont care where they play tag are cowards…its a damn shame anyone says that knowing how the move almost killed the franchise

  1074. Marks hair Says:

    S H O W T I M E ! ! !

  1075. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 10:58 am
    Duece people like you use that i dont care where they play tag are cowards…its a damn shame anyone says that knowing how the move almost killed the franchise

    —-

    Im a coward cuz I will follow my team wherever they go?

    Hmm.. interesting theory.

  1076. Method To My Madness Says:

    1072.boss01 Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 10:57 am
    76 Raiders were by far the best team ever assembled for us

    ———–

    Yeah u know more than Al Davis about the raiders I’m sure

    ******************

    Other Raider players sure say so…lost one game had greatest oline ever….see oline is hearbeat of a team with Kenny Stabler the best Raider qb ever along with best raider WRs freddie b and cliff….sit down you lose….LOSER

  1077. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Marks hair Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 10:59 am
    S H O W T I M E ! ! !

    —-

    S L O W T I M E…

  1078. Method To My Madness Says:

    1075.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 10:59 am
    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 10:58 am
    Duece people like you use that i dont care where they play tag are cowards…its a damn shame anyone says that knowing how the move almost killed the franchise

    —-

    Im a coward cuz I will follow my team wherever they go?

    Hmm.. interesting theory.

    *********

    It is very cowardly Duece because you saying it doesnt make a difference when we already fkin seen it make a big difference….such a fool

    thats just like saying crack doesnt change someone

  1079. Method To My Madness Says:

    As soon as all the players who started off in Oakland left the team choas ensued and the Raiders became soft

  1080. boss01 Says:

    http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F&gl=US#/watch?v=RvfAVtOhH7k

    Here it is in black and white Al saying the 83 raidahs are the greatest raider team ever

  1081. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 11:00 am
    1075.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 10:59 am
    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 10:58 am
    Duece people like you use that i dont care where they play tag are cowards…its a damn shame anyone says that knowing how the move almost killed the franchise

    —-

    Im a coward cuz I will follow my team wherever they go?

    Hmm.. interesting theory.

    *********

    It is very cowardly Duece because you saying it doesnt make a difference when we already fkin seen it make a big difference….such a fool

    thats just like saying crack doesnt change someone

    —-

    The location of the team has nothing to do with the play though.

    We have been in our worst stretch as a franchise while in Oakland too.. so what does that mean? Nothing.

    Coward and my name dont go in the same sentence.

  1082. Method To My Madness Says:

    Duece its disrespectful on all levels…its bigger than football with the Raiders up here and you refuse to get it man

  1083. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 11:02 am
    Duece its disrespectful on all levels…its bigger than football with the Raiders up here and you refuse to get it man

    —-

    Thats fine.

    But that has nothing to do with you calling me a coward for following my team wherever they go. It makes no sense and is disrespectful to me.

  1084. Method To My Madness Says:

    1080.boss01 Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 11:01 am
    http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F&gl=US#/watch?v=RvfAVtOhH7k

    Here it is in black and white Al saying the 83 raidahs are the greatest raider team ever

    ************

    And its team were over 90 pct of the team that fkin won it in 1980…hence an Oakland title….no LA btch made influence happened yet…Hollywood didnt touch that team and they werent soft yet

    Typical of LA people…wanting to cling on to something that isnt original to your area lol

  1085. Marks hair Says:

    W’ s fans have tears in their eyes during the playoffs… They dont know what champions look like..

  1086. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Front loaded offer from the Kings coming for Ryan Anderson..

  1087. Method To My Madness Says:

    And Al only saying that becuz the victory symbolized his ass kicking to Pete Rozelle especially after he fked us on John Elway….see Boss01 you just not smart enough to read between the lines

  1088. RaiderRockstar Says:

    so Laker fans …

    Kobe Bryant is the best player in the league, but he needs an All-Star at every position to get past RD1 in the playoffs?

    I’ll humor you and say they make the Finals, then what?

    Wade & Bosh at 100% this time around ??

    Lakers = swept

  1089. Marks hair Says:

    LA will have the best offense in the nba. And another tittle.. Hahaha

  1090. boss01 Says:

    Umm I don’t think the 80 team had Marcus Allen, sorry, but that’s a major piece right there, and where did Marcus go to school? Thank u

  1091. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Kings think Ryno can play some 3.. thats a mistake.

  1092. Method To My Madness Says:

    1083.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 11:03 am
    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 11:02 am
    Duece its disrespectful on all levels…its bigger than football with the Raiders up here and you refuse to get it man

    —-

    Thats fine.

    But that has nothing to do with you calling me a coward for following my team wherever they go. It makes no sense and is disrespectful to me.

    *********

    You started it by disrespecting the old folks who layed the ground work for what you love today…people such as my grandfather who went to the first games ever before Al arrived…you dont go with this it dont matter where they play…bullschit do you know how that 82 move hurt people here?

  1093. Marks hair Says:

    I guss lebrin will cover bynum & gasol…

  1094. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 11:07 am
    1083.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 11:03 am
    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 11:02 am
    Duece its disrespectful on all levels…its bigger than football with the Raiders up here and you refuse to get it man

    —-

    Thats fine.

    But that has nothing to do with you calling me a coward for following my team wherever they go. It makes no sense and is disrespectful to me.

    *********

    You started it by disrespecting the old folks who layed the ground work for what you love today…people such as my grandfather who went to the first games ever before Al arrived…you dont go with this it dont matter where they play…bullschit do you know how that 82 move hurt people here?

    —-

    For sure. And that sucks.

    BUT like I said. That situation has no bearing on me liking the Raiders, no matter where they play.

    Calling someone you dont know, on the internet, a coward for that doesnt do anything.

    Im a RAIDER.

  1095. Method To My Madness Says:

    You dont get it Duece….the Raiders arent the same any place else….just counterfeit schit…nada better than the Fox crew in 96 at the end of the Det vs Oak game where we won 37-21….commentator said…”It just feels natural and right they are back in Oakland, this is where they belong and LA wasnt right for the Raiders”

  1096. Method To My Madness Says:

    1094.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 11:10 am
    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 11:07 am
    1083.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 11:03 am
    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 11:02 am
    Duece its disrespectful on all levels…its bigger than football with the Raiders up here and you refuse to get it man

    —-

    Thats fine.

    But that has nothing to do with you calling me a coward for following my team wherever they go. It makes no sense and is disrespectful to me.

    *********

    You started it by disrespecting the old folks who layed the ground work for what you love today…people such as my grandfather who went to the first games ever before Al arrived…you dont go with this it dont matter where they play…bullschit do you know how that 82 move hurt people here?

    —-

    For sure. And that sucks.

    BUT like I said. That situation has no bearing on me liking the Raiders, no matter where they play.

    Calling someone you dont know, on the internet, a coward for that doesnt do anything.

    Im a RAIDER.

    ********

    No you’re a fan…see I’m not a fan….that flies above your head Duecey

    See it seems you only like the colors and how cool the Raiders make you feel….guys like me are quite different….they rep my area and where im from….see thats what teams do ….hence the name of the team!

  1097. Method To My Madness Says:

    You would never hear a Packers fan say it doesnt matter…you would never hear a Cowboys fan say that….nor a Giants,Eagles or skins fan….the area they play in sure as fk matters

  1098. Method To My Madness Says:

    anyhow done on the topic becuz ppl who exalt counterfeit schit is saying alot about their character

  1099. Method To My Madness Says:

    1091.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 11:07 am
    Kings think Ryno can play some 3.. thats a mistake.

    *********

    Ryan vs Durant? Ryan Vs Barnes? Next

  1100. Marks hair Says:

    Barnes who? The skinny rook?lol maybe next next yr W’s….

  1101. Marks hair Says:

    Maybe next next next yr…

  1102. Marks hair Says:

    There’s always next next next next yr…

  1103. hwnrdr Says:

    DAV, I agree with you on one point. I followed my team from Oakland to LA and then back. However, B is right on that it could only be The Oakland Raiders! That is where they rightfully belong!

  1104. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Clips get Billups & Crawford

  1105. RaiderRockstar Says:

    pretty sad when Yahoo! breaks this story before IBA

    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/former-raider-ben-davidson-dies-221247683–nfl.html

  1106. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    hwnrdr Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 11:34 am
    DAV, I agree with you on one point. I followed my team from Oakland to LA and then back. However, B is right on that it could only be The Oakland Raiders! That is where they rightfully belong!

    —-

    Agreed on all points.

    No one is wrong, They are the Raiders wherever they go, but they belong in Oakland.

    I never debated that.

  1107. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    4/24 for Crawford… wow.

  1108. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Clips get Billups & Crawford

    ***

    @DAV

    is it too late for me to jump on the bandwagon?

    lol, j/k

  1109. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Lowry to the Raptors for a future 1st.

    Thats why the Rockets wont ever compete. Turrible.

  1110. RaiderRockstar Says:

    LOL @ Plunk talking trash in Dell’s FFL 50 days before the draft !!

  1111. hwnrdr Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 11:35 am
    hwnrdr Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 11:34 am
    DAV, I agree with you on one point. I followed my team from Oakland to LA and then back. However, B is right on that it could only be The Oakland Raiders! That is where they rightfully belong!

    —-

    Agreed on all points.

    No one is wrong, They are the Raiders wherever they go, but they belong in Oakland.

    I never debated that.

    I know

  1112. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Nets & Magic talking again.

    Unless a 3rd team is involved, IDK how they can make a decent offer.

  1113. hwnrdr Says:

    I thought Billups was already with the Clips last year?

  1114. hwnrdr Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 11:35 am
    pretty sad when Yahoo! breaks this story before IBA

    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/former-raider-ben-davidson-dies-221247683–nfl.html

    Agreed! I heard it on twitter!

  1115. hellsbells Says:

    I am not claiming a champioship.
    Session could not guard/shoot/or pass.
    Upgrade in two out of three in that shill set.

    Curry is such a good defender.

  1116. hellsbells Says:

    skill set

  1117. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    hwnrdr Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 11:40 am
    I thought Billups was already with the Clips last year?

    —-

    He was a FA..

  1118. hellsbells Says:

    What is the 30th pick in the NBA any way let alone a second round. This is not the NFL draft. Rarely any depth.

  1119. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Nets get: Dwight Howard, Ron Artest

    Lakers get: Brook Lopez, Ryan Anderson, JJ Redick

    Magic get: Andrew Bynum, MarShon Brooks, Kris Humphries

  1120. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    If I was a GM..

  1121. hwnrdr Says:

    BTW: Where’s O at? What happened last night in San Diego that their fireworks all went off at once?

  1122. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Nets get: Dwight Howard, Ron Artest

    Lakers get: Brook Lopez, Ryan Anderson, JJ Redick

    Magic get: Andrew Bynum, MarShon Brooks, Kris Humphries

    ***

    LOL!!

    are you trying to get Laker fans all riled up?

    this would be a HORRIBLE deal for them.

    by the way, I don’t think the Nets could afford Howard & Artest both. maybe not even 1 of them!

  1123. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 11:53 am
    Nets get: Dwight Howard, Ron Artest

    Lakers get: Brook Lopez, Ryan Anderson, JJ Redick

    Magic get: Andrew Bynum, MarShon Brooks, Kris Humphries

    ***

    LOL!!

    are you trying to get Laker fans all riled up?

    this would be a HORRIBLE deal for them.

    by the way, I don’t think the Nets could afford Howard & Artest both. maybe not even 1 of them
    —-

    How is it a horrible deal?..

    The Nets can afford as much of the luxury tax the Russian billionaire is willing to pay.

  1124. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Matt Leinart listed amoung NFL draft busts, but JaMarcus Russell isn’t. lol

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/05/troy-smith-isnt-giving-up-on-his-nfl-future/

    did Debo write this ??

    re-sign Boller!

  1125. DKnight007 Says:

    Lakers get one of the best PG’s ever in Nash!

    Nash still has 3 more good years as a facilatator, passer and leader who can still shoot.

  1126. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Mario Henderson aka “Super Mario” looking to best Richard Seymour (again) ??

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/05/mario-henderson-has-lost-more-than-50-pounds-in-three-months/

  1127. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    DKnight007 Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 11:57 am
    Lakers get one of the best PG’s ever in Nash!

    Nash still has 3 more good years as a facilatator, passer and leader who can still shoot.

    —-

    I agree mostly..

    Their strategy better be to outscore everyone though..

  1128. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Louis Murphy in danger of not making Oakland Raiders

    By Gregg Rosenthal
    Around The League editor
    Published: July 5, 2012

    The Oakland Raiders’ wide receiver depth chart was one of the thinnest in the NFL not so long ago. Now you could argue it’s one of the deepest, even if we don’t know how it will shake out.

    Consider Louis Murphy. He led the Raiders’ receiving corps with 41 catches and 609 yards as a 23-year-old in 2010. Now he could be fighting just to make the team.

    Steve Corkran of the Contra Costa Times believes Murphy is in a battle just to make the roster because of buzzy rookies Juron Criner and Rod Streater. Criner has looked the part all offseason despite his status as a fifth-round draft pick. Streater, an undrafted rookie, took some snaps with the Raiders’ first-team offense last month.

    The Raiders’ top three wideouts this year figure to be breakout choice Denarius Moore, an improved Darrius Heyward-Bey and Jacoby Ford. That is an explosive group; all three players can take any play the distance.

    While there isn’t a lot of experience or variety with this Oakland receiver collection, they will present a lot of problems for defenses. It’s an Al Davis kind of group.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82a57486/article/louis-murphy-in-danger-of-not-making-oakland-raiders?module=HP11_content_stream

  1129. RaiderDebo Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 9:25 am
    @Kentucky

    I don’t need to convert you to Branch realism

    look at the stats. watch a few games

    belief is growing in some NFL circles that he was just a product of the Davis/Bresnahan/Woodson/Ross coaching scheme in a contract year with not much to show outside of a bloated tackle #’s and that he’ll flop under Allen/Tarver/Lynn/Lopez in 2012 if he gets paid big money

    I don’t want to piss in your kool-aid , so lets just say “wait & see” in regards to Gibril Wilson 2.0

    cool, brosama?
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Agreed. Branch is OK, but I can’t believe the hype he’s getting. Not the best safety on the team in my opinion.

  1130. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Nets changing Mirza Teletović’s contract to the mini-mid level exception, so they can exceed the luxury tax.

  1131. Marks hair Says:

    You poor fu(ks… Hahahaha! Showtime

  1132. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    RaiderDebo Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 12:06 pm

    Agreed. Branch is OK, but I can’t believe the hype he’s getting. Not the best safety on the team in my opinion.

    —-

    So, umm.. Could you rank the Raiders safeties for me please..

  1133. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Branch is OK, but I can’t believe the hype he’s getting. Not the best safety on the team in my opinion

    ***

    Debo = money!!

  1134. RaiderDebo Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
    RaiderDebo Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 12:06 pm

    Agreed. Branch is OK, but I can’t believe the hype he’s getting. Not the best safety on the team in my opinion.

    —-

    So, umm.. Could you rank the Raiders safeties for me please..
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Huff is #1 by KO. Branch is #2 over Giordano by decision.

  1135. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Could you rank the Raiders safeties for me please

    ***

    I’ll do it!

    1 – Huff
    2 – Branch
    3 – Giordano
    4 – Mitchell
    5 – Taylor

  1136. Marks hair Says:

    The magic should have moved howard while the season was in .. Nobody needs him now.. Not bad enough to give the magic a good deal.

  1137. RaiderRockstar Says:

    The magic should have moved howard while the season was in .. Nobody needs him now.. Not bad enough to give the magic a good deal.

    ***

    @Marks Hair

    he’ll net more than the Suns did for Nash!

  1138. Marks hair Says:

    news flash the raiders don’t have a good safety

  1139. RaiderRockstar Says:

    with Nash in the fold, does Denver still take the Lakers to 7 games??

    lol

  1140. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Marks hair Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
    The magic should have moved howard while the season was in .. Nobody needs him now.. Not bad enough to give the magic a good deal.

    —-

    Not really very accurate.

  1141. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
    with Nash in the fold, does Denver still take the Lakers to 7 games??

    lol

    —-

    They still dont have anyone to defend Lawson lol..

  1142. Marks hair Says:

    1137. Your right about that.. Our rivals just did us a favor..

  1143. RaiderDebo Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 11:59 am
    Mario Henderson aka “Super Mario” looking to best Richard Seymour (again) ??

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/05/mario-henderson-has-lost-more-than-50-pounds-in-three-months/

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Never even heard this guy had been signed by the Chargers. Henderson at LT and rookies DHB and Louis Murphy as the starting WRS with Fred “wife beating” Flintstone, Buddy Whackit and Tollner running the O. Poor JaMarcus!

  1144. DKnight007 Says:

    1141.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
    RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
    with Nash in the fold, does Denver still take the Lakers to 7 games??

    lol

    —-

    They still dont have anyone to defend Lawson lol..

    ^^^^^^^^
    Lawso is the least of the Lakers worries. Lakers need to worry about OKC and Spurs if they want to get back to the Finals.

    They need to get Bynum and Gasol to play more consistent.

  1145. Marks hair Says:

    Who cares about defense at the point? The lakers won 5 titles with NO defense at the point… The heat won 2 rings with no D at the point. The spurs…..

  1146. DKnight007 Says:

    1128.RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
    Louis Murphy in danger of not making Oakland Raiders

    By Gregg Rosenthal
    Around The League editor
    Published: July 5, 2012

    The Oakland Raiders’ wide receiver depth chart was one of the thinnest in the NFL not so long ago. Now you could argue it’s one of the deepest, even if we don’t know how it will shake out.

    Consider Louis Murphy. He led the Raiders’ receiving corps with 41 catches and 609 yards as a 23-year-old in 2010. Now he could be fighting just to make the team.

    Steve Corkran of the Contra Costa Times believes Murphy is in a battle just to make the roster because of buzzy rookies Juron Criner and Rod Streater. Criner has looked the part all offseason despite his status as a fifth-round draft pick. Streater, an undrafted rookie, took some snaps with the Raiders’ first-team offense last month.

    The Raiders’ top three wideouts this year figure to be breakout choice Denarius Moore, an improved Darrius Heyward-Bey and Jacoby Ford. That is an explosive group; all three players can take any play the distance.

    While there isn’t a lot of experience or variety with this Oakland receiver collection, they will present a lot of problems for defenses. It’s an Al Davis kind of group.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82a57486/article/louis-murphy-in-danger-of-not-making-oakland-raiders?module=HP11_content_stream

    ^^^^^^^
    They should try and trade Murph for a 5th round pick to some team who needs some WR depth.

  1147. Marks hair Says:

    You cant defend a point guard 1 on 1 in the playoffs . All they do is pick & roll. It takes 2 defenders at least..

  1148. DKnight007 Says:

    The Lakers need to play better team defense. It’s not just about one on one match ups.

    They need to rotate better and not over commit when a PG is driving to the basket.

    They over converge on a penetrating PG and then he dishes out to someone wide open for easy buckets.

  1149. Marks hair Says:

    Bynum & Gasol just got waay better…

  1150. DKnight007 Says:

    1147.Marks hair Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
    You cant defend a point guard 1 on 1 in the playoffs . All they do is pick & roll. It takes 2 defenders at least..

    ^^^^^^^^
    EXACTLY!

  1151. RaiderRockstar Says:

    DKnight007,

    Murphy, Mitchell & McClain to the Bears in exchange for old man Urlacher!

  1152. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Marks hair Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
    You cant defend a point guard 1 on 1 in the playoffs . All they do is pick & roll. It takes 2 defenders at least..

    —-

    Exactly why Nash & Bynum are a terrible fit. Thanks for pointing that out.

    Bynum is on of the worst, if not the worst P&R defenders in the NBA. Nash is right there with him.

  1153. Marks hair Says:

    If only my Raiders would treat me like the Lakers do..

  1154. RaiderDebo Says:

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/04/jaws-thinks-joe-flacco-has-best-arm-in-the-league/

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    I’m sharing a brain with Jaworski on this one. Great article for you sheep that really believe that arm strength is overrated. And to think that we had the stongest arm in the history of the game of football and cut him because of a bunch of short-sighted fans and members of the media makes me sick to my stomach!

  1155. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    DKnight007 Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
    The Lakers need to play better team defense. It’s not just about one on one match ups.

    They need to rotate better and not over commit when a PG is driving to the basket.

    They over converge on a penetrating PG and then he dishes out to someone wide open for easy buckets.

    —-

    Dwight Howard.

    The only guy in the NBA who’s defensive play is so good he makes up for all the other 4 guys mistakes.

    Literally.

    Nelson, Turkoglu, Ryan Anderson, Redick. We had a top defense with these guys.

    Come on.

    He is head & shoulders above Bynum.

  1156. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    How do the Lakers defend the Thunder when they go:

    PG – Harden
    SG – Westbrook
    SF – Durant
    PF – Jones III
    C – Ibaka

  1157. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    With Dwight Howard, that’s how.

  1158. Marks hair Says:

    Bynum plays it well when he tries.. But his effort is the only reason for a Howard trade..

  1159. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Marks hair Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
    Bynum plays it well when he tries.. But his effort is the only reason for a Howard trade..

    —-

    He physically cant, when he tries he still lacks the foot speed and hip movement.

    It’s just not possible.

  1160. RaiderRockstar Says:

    we had the stongest arm in the history of the game of football and cut him because of a bunch of short-sighted fans and members of the media

    ***

    @Debo

    Hue Jackson was hired in Jan 2010.
    Russell was axed in May 2010.

    dont blame the fans or media for this. Blame hueball!

  1161. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Same reason why Shaq never defended the pick & roll. He couldnt so he just didnt show.

  1162. Marks hair Says:

    1154. Thats pretty funny man.. Jafatso haha..

  1163. Thec Says:

    Flacco = 6′6″ 245
    BRL = 6′6′ 320

    320 Says a lot about BRL’s commitment to excellence.

  1164. MiamiRaider78 Says:

    Good afternoon Raider Nation!

    Although the acquisition of Steve Nash will help the Lakers out on offense, there is still a need for some help on the bench. The pick and roll with Nash and Gasol will be fun to watch and double teaming our bigs should free up Kobe or Nash for open jumpshots. Def doesn’t mean we are a lock for a championship though, the west is LOADED will talent.

  1165. Marks hair Says:

    Of couse its possible.. He has 2 rings… Been there done that.. Wheres Howards ring? Oh, he’s not an elite center.. Better join kobe..

  1166. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I hope the Suns owner comes out and says the same thing the Cavs owner did when LeBron James bolted for Miami …

    “the Suns will win an NBA Championship before Steve Nash does!”

  1167. DKnight007 Says:

    RIP BIG BEN DAVIDSON

    Another Raiders Legend!

  1168. DKnight007 Says:

    Nobody says by adding Nash, the Lakers will win a title.

    It makes them a better TEAM though.

  1169. Thec Says:

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82a57486/article/louis-murphy-in-danger-of-not-making-oakland-raiders?module=HP11_content_stream

    ++++++++++++++

    Good to see someone outside of the NATION get it for a change.

    WR corp is deep, and LMURPHY will be on the roster.

  1170. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Marks hair Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
    Of couse its possible.. He has 2 rings… Been there done that.. Wheres Howards ring? Oh, he’s not an elite center.. Better join kobe..

    —-

    Bynum can defend the pick & roll cuz he has 2 rings.. And Howard isnt elite cuz he doesnt have a ring….

    got it.

  1171. RaiderDebo Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
    we had the stongest arm in the history of the game of football and cut him because of a bunch of short-sighted fans and members of the media

    ***

    @Debo

    Hue Jackson was hired in Jan 2010.
    Russell was axed in May 2010.

    dont blame the fans or media for this. Blame hueball!

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Doubt very much that was Hue’s call. Al carved to fans like the clowns who burned JR’s jersey in the parking lot and threatened not to renew season ticks. And those sheep were so heavily influenced by the talking heads that semed determined to drive the guy out of the league. JR would have done great in Hue’s offense. He got off to a great start in that 1st minicamp under Hue.

  1172. Marks hair Says:

    Yeah it worked out well for cleveland…

  1173. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    DKnight007 Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
    Nobody says by adding Nash, the Lakers will win a title.

    It makes them a better TEAM though.

    —-

    Especially if Nash can get Kobe to play as a TEAM..

  1174. DKnight007 Says:

    1156.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
    How do the Lakers defend the Thunder when they go:

    PG – Harden
    SG – Westbrook
    SF – Durant
    PF – Jones III
    C – Ibaka

    ^^^^^^^^
    Jones 3 is NOT PF. He is more of a SF.

    Double Durant and make the inconsistent Harden and erratic Westbrook take outside jumpers.

  1175. hwnrdr Says:

    WOW!

  1176. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Just like Raider fans, Laker fans, there are a select few of you who are mentally retarted. And who use little to no logic when talking about the team. They give all the normal ones a really bad name.

    Carry on..

  1177. RaiderDebo Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
    we had the stongest arm in the history of the game of football and cut him because of a bunch of short-sighted fans and members of the media

    ***

    @Debo

    Hue Jackson was hired in Jan 2010.
    Russell was axed in May 2010.

    dont blame the fans or media for this. Blame hueball!

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    When the hell did JR ever weigh in at 320? Please have a proof source before responding.

  1178. DKnight007 Says:

    The Heat OKC by completely dictating the tempo, and driving to the basket consistently and forcing Westbrook and Harden to take bad shots.

  1179. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    DKnight007 Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
    1156.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
    How do the Lakers defend the Thunder when they go:

    PG – Harden
    SG – Westbrook
    SF – Durant
    PF – Jones III
    C – Ibaka

    ^^^^^^^^
    Jones 3 is NOT PF. He is more of a SF.

    Double Durant and make the inconsistent Harden and erratic Westbrook take outside jumpers.

    —-

    PJ3 will play PF in this rotation, I wasnt meaning this as a starting lineup or anything.

    This is the lineup they will “run” with.

  1180. Thec Says:

    Doubt very much that was Hue’s call. Al carved to fans like the clowns who burned JR’s jersey in the parking lot and threatened not to renew season ticks.

    +++++++++

    Come on mayne…While he was on this plane, Mr. Davis NEVER caved to anyone, including fans…

    That was NEVER his Modis O….

  1181. DKnight007 Says:

    Go A’s…love them sweeping the hated Red Sucks!

    hahaha

    Beane needs to sign Josh Reddick to a 4 year deal now!

  1182. Marks hair Says:

    Howard doesnt have a ring because he’s not elite.. Elite bigs can score.. Shaq would have embarrassed howard…

  1183. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    @DKNIGHT007

    And why would Harden or Westbrook settle for jumpers when they can just go to the rim every time, especially if you are doubling Durant…?

  1184. RaiderRockstar Says:

    @Debo

    Hue Jax was calling the shots, even when he was just OC. remember him taking the credit/blame for benching Jason Campbell in favor of Bruce Gradkowski ??

    Hueball had Al Davis on speed-dial and persuaded him to bring in former 1st round bust Kyle Boller instead. who did Boller have Baltimore ties to? Hue Jackson!

  1185. Thec Says:

    When the hell did JR ever weigh in at 320? Please have a proof source before responding.

    +++++++++++

    hahaha, so you saying that BRL was never at 300lbs?

    So all the reports about hi coming into camp at 300 lbs is false????

  1186. hwnrdr Says:

    Thec Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
    Doubt very much that was Hue’s call. Al carved to fans like the clowns who burned JR’s jersey in the parking lot and threatened not to renew season ticks.

    +++++++++

    Come on mayne…While he was on this plane, Mr. Davis NEVER caved to anyone, including fans…

    That was NEVER his Modis O….

    Exactly! What’s up Thec?

  1187. Marks hair Says:

    the thunder still need a post scorer.. Cant win shooting all day. Wont get the calls all day.. Wont get a ring the way they are now..

  1188. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Marks hair Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
    Howard doesnt have a ring because he’s not elite.. Elite bigs can score.. Shaq would have embarrassed howard…

    —-

    *Sigh*..

    I guess Patrick Ewing just wasnt elite enough.. lol

  1189. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Ibaka is 22 years old.

    The Thunder will be fine in the post.

  1190. DKnight007 Says:

    1183.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
    @DKNIGHT007

    And why would Harden or Westbrook settle for jumpers when they can just go to the rim every time, especially if you are doubling Durant…?

    ^^^^^^^^
    Watch how the Heat played D versus OKC and completely dictated tempo.

    The Spurs and Lakers will watch that tape.

    It’s about pressure and playing DISCIPLINED stay at home defense when the drive to basket and keeping the feet and legs and moving and hands up.

  1191. theghostronin79 Says:

    Not sure it was scheme that caused Russell to over throw a simple “wheel route” or have his signature move be a “sack fumble”. Not even a blind side sack either.

  1192. Marks hair Says:

    Jafatso. Jamarcus the hut.. Thank god your times over..

  1193. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Shaq would have embarrassed howard…

    ***

    @Marks Hair

    Shaq clowned everybody that went up against him, his first 15 years in the league. 1992-2007

    Suns, Cavs & Celtics got a shell of his former self.

    Kinda like Favre playing for the Jets & Vikings!

  1194. DKnight007 Says:

    Nobody is saying the Thunder won’t be fine….but they can be beaten in a series.

    The Heat completely dismantled them!

  1195. Marks hair Says:

    1190. Right

  1196. RaiderRockstar Says:

    @DAV

    I would like to see OKC acquire Dwight Howard.

    possible?

  1197. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    DKnight007 Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
    1183.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
    @DKNIGHT007

    And why would Harden or Westbrook settle for jumpers when they can just go to the rim every time, especially if you are doubling Durant…?

    ^^^^^^^^
    Watch how the Heat played D versus OKC and completely dictated tempo.

    The Spurs and Lakers will watch that tape.

    It’s about pressure and playing DISCIPLINED stay at home defense when the drive to basket and keeping the feet and legs and moving and hands up.

    —-

    The Spurs & Lakers dont have Lebron & Wade.

    And that same game tape is available to the Thunder..

  1198. Thec Says:

    Exactly! What’s up Thec?

    ++

    All is well, whats good Brother???

  1199. DJ Johnny Says:

    1193.RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
    Shaq would have embarrassed howard…

    ***

    @Marks Hair

    Shaq clowned everybody that went up against him, his first 15 years in the league. 1992-2007

    Suns, Cavs & Celtics got a shell of his former self.

    Kinda like Favre playing for the Jets & Vikings!

    Except Favres’ 1st yr. in Minnesota was probably his best in his career. Jets??? Not so much as well as Favre’s 2nd yr. in Minn.

  1200. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    DKnight007 Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
    Nobody is saying the Thunder won’t be fine….but they can be beaten in a series.

    The Heat completely dismantled them!

    —-

    Won game 2 by 4

    game 3 by 6

    game 4 by 6…

    Id hate to hear what you think winning by double digits is!!!!!

  1201. hwnrdr Says:

    Thec Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
    Exactly! What’s up Thec?

    ++

    All is well, whats good Brother???

    Oh, you know…waiting for August 13th! Other than that, all is good!

  1202. Marks hair Says:

    1193 I was only compairing an elite center like shaq to a great center like howard..

  1203. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
    @DAV

    I would like to see OKC acquire Dwight Howard.

    possible?

    —-

    Our new GM Hennigan is from OKC.. Maybe?

    I think Harden/Perkins/Maynor or Harden/Ibaka would be good for both sides..

  1204. MiamiRaider78 Says:

    Heat role players did an outstanding job in hitting big shots. All great teams have those important role players. If they acquire Ray Allen, I might have to move out of Miami, can’t stand the amount of people hopping on the bandwagon…lol

  1205. Marks hair Says:

    Im sure okc like what they have.. No on howard..

  1206. theghostronin79 Says:

    Doubt very much that was Hue’s call. Al carved to fans like the clowns who burned JR’s jersey in the parking lot and threatened not to renew season ticks. And those sheep were so heavily influenced by the talking heads that semed determined to drive the guy out of the league. JR would have done great in Hue’s offense. He got off to a great start in that 1st minicamp under Hue.

    =================

    Not sure it was scheme that caused Russell to over throw a simple “wheel route” or have his signature move be a “sack fumble”. Not even a blind side sack either.

  1207. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Our new GM Hennigan is from OKC.. Maybe?

    I think Harden/Perkins/Maynor or Harden/Ibaka would be good for both sides..

    ***

    sweet

    OKC big 3 of Howard/Durant/Westbrook would be tough!!

  1208. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    There isnt a team in the NBA who can NOT use Dwight Howard. LOL..

    If you think otherwise you are probably suspect..or concerned about driving your own opinion

  1209. Thec Says:

    If BRL was a NFL QB, he would be in the league plain and simple.

  1210. Marks hair Says:

    Ewing was a scorer.. And a defender.

    Howard needs moves, or a shot.. He’s a giant dennis rodman..

  1211. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
    Our new GM Hennigan is from OKC.. Maybe?

    I think Harden/Perkins/Maynor or Harden/Ibaka would be good for both sides..

    ***

    sweet

    OKC big 3 of Howard/Durant/Westbrook would be tough!!

    —-

    Arguably the best player at each level..

    But the Thunder dont usually do business like that..

  1212. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Marks hair Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 12:53 pm
    Ewing was a scorer.. And a defender.

    Howard needs moves, or a shot.. He’s a giant dennis rodman..

    —-

    *hand jacking off motion*

    Watch a game.

  1213. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    # RaiderDebo Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 12:24 pm

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/04/jaws-thinks-joe-flacco-has-best-arm-in-the-league/

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    I’m sharing a brain with Jaworski on this one. Great article for you sheep that really believe that arm strength is overrated. And to think that we had the stongest arm in the history of the game of football and cut him because of a bunch of short-sighted fans and members of the media makes me sick to my stomach!
    ================================================
    Ummm, who is the strongest arm in the history of football playing for now ?

    Answer: No one.

    Reason: He’s too stupid.

    Even if the fans and media being short-sighted is true, how do you account for the fact that there hasn’t been any reported interest in JaMoron by NFL GMs that are paid millions to make personnel assessments ?

    Or are you still holding your breath anticipating the return of JaMoron ?

    Here’s the thing – JaMoron’s arm strength and size made him an intriguing prospect. His lack of accuracy, dedication, substance abuse and pea brain made him the all-time NFL washout.

    Poor JaMoron.

  1214. Marks hair Says:

    1208. I just dont think they’ll cange their team and pay like the lakers do for a big move.. They will stick with the guys they have..

  1215. MiamiRaider78 Says:

    Marks Hair-

    Do you think Devin Ebanks could turn out to be an effective player for us? He has a nice shot and (when he played) did a decent job staying in front of Durant on defense. I hope he could be Ariza pt.II!

  1216. Marks hair Says:

    Dav watch hakim O play.. Then d. Howard. One of them is elite… Get some shots or some moves…

  1217. DKnight007 Says:

    1206.theghostronin79 Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
    Doubt very much that was Hue’s call. Al carved to fans like the clowns who burned JR’s jersey in the parking lot and threatened not to renew season ticks. And those sheep were so heavily influenced by the talking heads that semed determined to drive the guy out of the league. JR would have done great in Hue’s offense. He got off to a great start in that 1st minicamp under Hue.

    =================

    Not sure it was scheme that caused Russell to over throw a simple “wheel route” or have his signature move be a “sack fumble”. Not even a blind side sack either.

    ^^^^^^^^
    It was the sizzerup and lack of work ethic.

    Don’t know how Al Davis screwed that pick up by taking Russell over Megatron.

    Especially after screwing up and taking Gallery over Fitz!

    Ugh

  1218. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    RIP Ben Davidson. A Raider’s Raider.

    Back when he was pitching Miller Lite , I saw him at the Winternationals drag race in Pomona. He was hanging around the pits with the Miller Lite dragster team. (driven by Don Pruedhomme I belive.) Signing autographs, and drinking Miller Lite 16oz. cans..

    Sadly, the autograph I got form him was lost during a move. But, I’ll never forget meeting him, hearing his thunderous laugh that you could hear over all the noise that there is at a drag race. And lastly how small a 16oz. beer can looked in his massive hand. Looked like one of those small V-8 cans, instead of a tall boy..

    Tell, Al and all our other lost Raiders we miss them..

    Thoughts and prayers go out to Mr. Davidson’s family, and loved ones…..

  1219. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    I like Devin Ebanks. He’s got a good future.

  1220. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    “Dwight Howard doesnt have any post moves, sincerely the year 2009″

  1221. KoolKell Says:

    There always seems to be a player/players that attract hate. I guess it’s Dwight Howard’s turn, I really don’t know why.

  1222. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
    There always seems to be a player/players that attract hate. I guess it’s Dwight Howard’s turn, I really don’t know why.

    —-

    A real 180 too.. Was the opposite 2 years ago.

  1223. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    In other news, thanks Red Sox for giving us Youk lol..

    YYOUUUKKK!!!…

  1224. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Brandon “black hole” Bass re-signed with Celtics

  1225. KoolKell Says:

    What did he do, what crime did he commit?

  1226. Thec Says:

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/05/t-o-drew-brees-part-of-group-working-out-in-san-diego/

    +++++++++++

    Palmer putting in work…

  1227. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
    What did he do, what crime did he commit?

    —-

    He apparently missed the whole LeBron James fiasco lol..

  1228. MiamiRaider78 Says:

    Celtics are going to give the Heat fits in the playoffs, yet again.

    @DAV,
    Def agree that Ebanks has potential, hopefully Coach Brown has enough trust in him and gives him more minutes this upcoming season.

  1229. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Swept the Rangers…

    Your welcome A’s fans.

  1230. Marks hair Says:

    I likeebanks gowdlock & morris. The lakers just dont have room for rooks most yrs..

  1231. Marks hair Says:

    Ill thank you if you can make thr A’s a decent team with a good owner..

  1232. MiamiRaider78 Says:

    Palmer perfecting his craft…always good to know. Big year for Palmer!

  1233. KoolKell Says:

    Yeah, Palmer’s showing a lot of leadership.

  1234. Marks hair Says:

    Yay practice!

  1235. Method To My Madness Says:

    1221.KoolKell Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
    There always seems to be a player/players that attract hate. I guess it’s Dwight Howard’s turn, I really don’t know why.

    *******

    Becuz he is a number 1 pick who lacks a dominant game when he should be best player in nba….he dances and smiles too much like a fkin clown when he needs to man the fk up

  1236. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    I’m sharing a brain with Jaworski on this one. Great article for you sheep that really believe that arm strength is overrated. And to think that we had the stongest arm in the history of the game of football and cut him because of a bunch of short-sighted fans and members of the media makes me sick to my stomach!

    “““““““““““““““““““““““““““`
    You are talking about when Al went with Stabler over the Mad Bomber, correct?… I was a little bent about that one also. But in the end, Stabler turned out to be pretty damn good. Guess Al was lucky on that one and got it right…

    Wait.. you’re still stuck in myopia with #2? The only things he strong armed was his paycheck, and a fork…

  1237. Method To My Madness Says:

    1229.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
    Swept the Rangers…

    Your welcome A’s fans.

    ********

    WE not catching Rangers…beat the tigers and indians and we are in biz….thanks though for trying to help….white sox are cool….Comiskey not Us Cellular

  1238. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Kidd backs out of Mavs deal, signs with Knicks. Makes a little more sense.

  1239. Marks hair Says:

    Not to mention he screwed over orlando.. He knows he needs a batman for him to sidekick..

  1240. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
    1229.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
    Swept the Rangers…

    Your welcome A’s fans.

    ********

    WE not catching Rangers…beat the tigers and indians and we are in biz….thanks though for trying to help….white sox are cool….Comiskey not Us Cellular

    —-

    They did the Cell nice though.. classy.

    Either or, 1st place is always nice.

  1241. Method To My Madness Says:

    Dwight Howard makes me sick!…have no clue how anyone can defend this trash….mvps arent enoug nor are all star games or defensive player of year awards….you drafted number 1 overall out of HS…where are the rings man? You cry and wanna be traded out of a good city like Orlando…well fkin win you pssy!

  1242. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Marks hair Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
    Not to mention he screwed over orlando.. He knows he needs a batman for him to sidekick..

    —-

    There hasnt been 1 player that didnt need someone, and won it all themselves.

    He did screw us over though.

  1243. Marks hair Says:

    Jafat

  1244. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 1:48 pm
    Dwight Howard makes me sick!…have no clue how anyone can defend this trash….mvps arent enoug nor are all star games or defensive player of year awards….you drafted number 1 overall out of HS…where are the rings man? You cry and wanna be traded out of a good city like Orlando…well fkin win you pssy!

    —-

    Please stop, your gonna make me get all teary eyed lol..

  1245. Method To My Madness Says:

    1240.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
    1229.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
    Swept the Rangers…

    Your welcome A’s fans.

    ********

    WE not catching Rangers…beat the tigers and indians and we are in biz….thanks though for trying to help….white sox are cool….Comiskey not Us Cellular

    —-

    They did the Cell nice though.. classy.

    Either or, 1st place is always nice.

    *******

    All I say is you rule over Dakota’s lovely care bear cubs aka sports biggest joke

    Comiskey near the cool real folks in Chicago…at least Odumba got it right dissing Cubs fans lol

  1246. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Ya, great thing about being a White Sox fan…you always have the Cubs to kick around..

  1247. J Hill Says:

    DAV,

    There are 3 sides to every story.

    You have to understand how ridiculous you sound discounting the Lakers past success.

    It simply means that they know what they are doing. They know how to construct a championship team.

    And Laker fans being along for the ride also know what a championship team looks like.

    For the next 3 years, the Lakers are set up to be ONE of the better teams in the NBA. There is no arguing that.

  1248. Method To My Madness Says:

    Naw Duece…fk that clown…he owes the city especially after missing 4 out of 5 FTs down stratch vs lakers in game 4 when it maybe could have change tide of series

    Orlando is tight…love that city…dumb atl fool

  1249. Marks hair Says:

    1242. Right.. But he should do less tv and more work on his offense.. Ppl will go to orlando if howard acts like a franchise player..

  1250. MiamiRaider78 Says:

    What’s up Method!?!

    I have a friend of mine that lives out in the Bay and I was wondering if you could do me a favor? lol He’s a 9′er fan but his cousins love the Raiders. Whenever his primo’s get tickets, they invite him and he goes to the games and actually puts on a Raider jersey…If I can send you a picture of him, could you kick him in the nuts and tell him who it’s from? That m’fcker posts pics on my wall and rubs it in, knowing that I know that he’s not a fan! LOL or can you just beat him up? He’s a Dj, Dj Sully…jk, but i’m serious!

  1251. Plunketthead Says:

    Laugh it up now Podunker. I fixed my mistake from last year. Ccome to think of it why should I trash talk you?. I better save my good stuff for formidable foes like that pesky Marley and that insurance saleman who cannot stop gloating.

  1252. Method To My Madness Says:

    1247.J Hill Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
    DAV,

    There are 3 sides to every story.

    You have to understand how ridiculous you sound discounting the Lakers past success.

    It simply means that they know what they are doing. They know how to construct a championship team.

    And Laker fans being along for the ride also know what a championship team looks like.

    For the next 3 years, the Lakers are set up to be ONE of the better teams in the NBA. There is no arguing that.

    **********

    Better teams? As far as what? Not elite Jhill…no you are not…stop lying to yourselves

  1253. Method To My Madness Says:

    1250.MiamiRaider78 Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
    What’s up Method!?!

    I have a friend of mine that lives out in the Bay and I was wondering if you could do me a favor? lol He’s a 9′er fan but his cousins love the Raiders. Whenever his primo’s get tickets, they invite him and he goes to the games and actually puts on a Raider jersey…If I can send you a picture of him, could you kick him in the nuts and tell him who it’s from? That m’fcker posts pics on my wall and rubs it in, knowing that I know that he’s not a fan! LOL or can you just beat him up? He’s a Dj, Dj Sully…jk, but i’m serious!

    *********

    yeah we can just dump some beer all over him make him look pitiful…thats better than kickin him in the nuts lol

  1254. MistaBrown Says:

    No KK.
    No MR.
    No SeymourBush.

    =No trolling

    The end

  1255. Method To My Madness Says:

    Funny how Laker fans would ever want Dwight Howard…you guys have won hella titles and have had great centers…you want that fraud? Please Bynum is way better

  1256. Marks hair Says:

    1252. Lol hahaha sour grapes taste soo good… Feed me your no championship ever tears of bitter sadness..

  1257. Plunketthead Says:

    MB

    Every since they lead Sandusky away in chains.
    Hmmmm. MR might not be Sandusky hisself but he may still be in mourning

  1258. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    How did I discount the Lakers past?

    I said them winning in 2009 has nothing to do with the current fact that the Thunder & Heat are the earmark everyone has to be measured by..

    That’s just the truth.

  1259. Method To My Madness Says:

    1254.MistaBrown Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
    No KK.
    No MR.
    No SeymourBush.

    =No trolling

    The end

    ************

    HAHAHA…Kell is lurking…trust that…here comes the link about how great democrats are

  1260. MiamiRaider78 Says:

    haha Thanks. I hate that fool for doing that but he’s a good friend of mine.

  1261. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 1:58 pm
    Funny how Laker fans would ever want Dwight Howard…you guys have won hella titles and have had great centers…you want that fraud? Please Bynum is way better

    —-

    I hate Dwight Howard, but this statement isnt true.

  1262. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Laugh it up now Podunker. I fixed my mistake from last year. Ccome to think of it why should I trash talk you?. I better save my good stuff for formidable foes like that pesky Marley and that insurance saleman who cannot stop gloating.

    ***

    @Plunk

    Marley is formidable and i’m not?

    I went 3-0 against him last season, booted him from postseason glory

    I made the playoffs both years in Dell’s league. Still haven’t beat JFB yet though. I think i’m 0-5 against him in 2 years playing!!

    I can’t remember a single meaningful game against your squad. should rename your team the “doormats”

  1263. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Magic will pick up 6 mil. option on JJ Redick..

  1264. Marks hair Says:

    Bynum is not better than howard.. But he works harder on his game. Bynum might pass him up.

  1265. Method To My Madness Says:

    1264.Marks hair Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
    Bynum is not better than howard.. But he works harder on his game. Bynum might pass him up.

    ***************

    Howard is the go to guy….Bynum would avg 25 and 12 if Kobe realized Bynum was best player on floor

  1266. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Marks hair Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
    Bynum is not better than howard.. But he works harder on his game. Bynum might pass him up.

    —-

    Probably due to Howard being so physically gifted.

    Pretty accurate statement.

    Howard’s ceiling is about 10 stories higher than Bynum’s though.

  1267. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Bynum is the Chaz Schilens of basketball.
    Bryant is the Phyllis Rivers..

    NEXT

  1268. Method To My Madness Says:

    1256.Marks hair Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 1:58 pm
    1252. Lol hahaha sour grapes taste soo good… Feed me your no championship ever tears of bitter sadness..

    ***********

    Idiot the Warriors have a title….at least have your info together moron….you still cant deny you arent elite anymore

  1269. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    But would he be getting those #’s while getting double & triple teamed liked Dwight is?

    Nope. Dwight doesnt have a Kobe or Gasol to stretch the Defense..

  1270. Plunketthead Says:

    Dwight is a dim bulb just like Koby Lowbeam Byrant.
    They fit like corn & butter. I look forward to the two teaming up in cesspool city and disappointing the showtime dreamers.

    Its lowbeam time!!

  1271. Method To My Madness Says:

    1266.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
    Marks hair Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
    Bynum is not better than howard.. But he works harder on his game. Bynum might pass him up.

    —-

    Probably due to Howard being so physically gifted.

    Pretty accurate statement.

    Howard’s ceiling is about 10 stories higher than Bynum’s though.

    ********

    I disagree fully on this…bynum isnt as athletic but basketball wise Bynum is way better….howard is an athlete not a basketball player

  1272. RaiderRockstar Says:

    how many rings would Kobe have if he stayed with the Hornets?

    zero.

    how man rings if he had the same supporting cast as Iverson & James in Philly & Cleveland?

    zero.

    Lakers made him. Lakers brass = studs. hate them

  1273. Method To My Madness Says:

    1269.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
    But would he be getting those #’s while getting double & triple teamed liked Dwight is?

    Nope. Dwight doesnt have a Kobe or Gasol to stretch the Defense..

    *******

    Huh…you seen Dwight’s 3 pt shooters around him? Muthfka had hella space too

  1274. Marks hair Says:

    Sorry forgot you were ws instead of clips..

  1275. Method To My Madness Says:

    Lakers brass…especially jerry west have been stellar…no denying the truth

  1276. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
    how many rings would Kobe have if he stayed with the Hornets?

    zero.

    how man rings if he had the same supporting cast as Iverson & James in Philly & Cleveland?

    zero.

    Lakers made him. Lakers brass = studs. hate them

    —-

    How many rings does Kobe have without Phil Jackson?..

    ZING!..

  1277. Method To My Madness Says:

    Mark…clips will have better record than lakers…let’s bet that right now…clips will win pac div

  1278. Marks hair Says:

    1272. I doubt that.. Wining comes from within.. Ask the greatest coach ever..

  1279. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
    1269.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
    But would he be getting those #’s while getting double & triple teamed liked Dwight is?

    Nope. Dwight doesnt have a Kobe or Gasol to stretch the Defense..

    *******

    Huh…you seen Dwight’s 3 pt shooters around him? Muthfka had hella space too

    —-

    Not come playoff time.

    And if you watch like I think you do, you know this.

    You know playoff bball is a whole different beast.

  1280. Method To My Madness Says:

    Please dont overrate Phil Jackson guys….Kobe is a dkhead but one of the top ten players ever and phil got gift wrapped pau gasol….he also had mj and scottie…..

    Give Phil Jackson 2 of the top 10 current nba players and he will win a title lol

  1281. Method To My Madness Says:

    1279.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
    1269.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
    But would he be getting those #’s while getting double & triple teamed liked Dwight is?

    Nope. Dwight doesnt have a Kobe or Gasol to stretch the Defense..

    *******

    Huh…you seen Dwight’s 3 pt shooters around him? Muthfka had hella space too

    —-

    Not come playoff time.

    And if you watch like I think you do, you know this.

    You know playoff bball is a whole different beast.

    ****************

    LOL and how did they get to east finals, east semis and nba finals? floor was stretched brotha

  1282. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Is Phil Jackson the best ever?

    Or the Most overreated ever?

    He never coached a team that wasnt loaded.. without quitting.

  1283. Marks hair Says:

    1277. Hahaha..lol
    Please

  1284. Plunketthead Says:

    Doormat out back with a Al Davis Cup up front in the trphy case

  1285. Method To My Madness Says:

    1278.Marks hair Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
    1272. I doubt that.. Wining comes from within.. Ask the greatest coach ever..

    *************

    Who Red Aurebach?

  1286. hwnrdr Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
    Please dont overrate Phil Jackson guys….Kobe is a dkhead but one of the top ten players ever and phil got gift wrapped pau gasol….he also had mj and scottie…..

    Give Phil Jackson 2 of the top 10 current nba players and he will win a title lol

    I kinda agree, but same could be said about Red Auerbach!

  1287. Method To My Madness Says:

    Pat Riley= better coach than Phil Jackson

  1288. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
    1279.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
    1269.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
    But would he be getting those #’s while getting double & triple teamed liked Dwight is?

    Nope. Dwight doesnt have a Kobe or Gasol to stretch the Defense..

    *******

    Huh…you seen Dwight’s 3 pt shooters around him? Muthfka had hella space too

    —-

    Not come playoff time.

    And if you watch like I think you do, you know this.

    You know playoff bball is a whole different beast.

    ****************

    LOL and how did they get to east finals, east semis and nba finals? floor was stretched brotha

    —-

    Watch that Finals again.

    Fisher & Ariza were flashing on Dwight the second he touched the ball.

    Lakers rotated to shooters.

    fact is Bynum doesnt see that attention EVER.

  1289. Marks hair Says:

    The lakers made kobe?? Lol ok..

  1290. Method To My Madness Says:

    Red Auerbach= outside of jerry west is best basketball mind ever

  1291. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Jason Kidd shot 28 free throws last year.

    28.

  1292. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    There is no best ever IMO. Best of era? Sure..

  1293. Marks hair Says:

    Pat was a great Laker coach too..

  1294. hwnrdr Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
    Pat Riley= better coach than Phil Jackson

    Pat Riley in his Laker Days, yes! He was bad a**!

  1295. Method To My Madness Says:

    1288.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
    1279.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
    1269.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
    But would he be getting those #’s while getting double & triple teamed liked Dwight is?

    Nope. Dwight doesnt have a Kobe or Gasol to stretch the Defense..

    *******

    Huh…you seen Dwight’s 3 pt shooters around him? Muthfka had hella space too

    —-

    Not come playoff time.

    And if you watch like I think you do, you know this.

    You know playoff bball is a whole different beast.

    ****************

    LOL and how did they get to east finals, east semis and nba finals? floor was stretched brotha

    —-

    Watch that Finals again.

    Fisher & Ariza were flashing on Dwight the second he touched the ball.

    Lakers rotated to shooters.

    fact is Bynum doesnt see that attention EVER.

    ***************

    Becuz Bynum is a great passer out of double teams…they damn sure know better

    And you talking that finals where they could been up 3-2 after leaving Orlando? lol funny as outside shooting wasnt crackin as it was vs clev a series earlier…orlando folded becuz theyre leader was a folder

  1296. Method To My Madness Says:

    1292.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
    There is no best ever IMO. Best of era? Sure..

    *********

    agreeable here….just like no greatest player ever

  1297. Method To My Madness Says:

    Duece…point is in playoffs orlando outside shooters were killin,,,,nba finals not so much becua they were too scared of the moment and SVG made a blunder not playing anthony johnson at all

  1298. RaiderRockstar Says:

    @Plunk

    ah yes, you’re one of those guys bragging about winning Dell’s FFL 5 years ago before the serious players like Bcz and myself arrived

    U still bragging about the Raiders ‘83 Super Bowl win, too?

  1299. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
    Duece…point is in playoffs orlando outside shooters were killin,,,,nba finals not so much becua they were too scared of the moment and SVG made a blunder not playing anthony johnson at all

    —-

    The blunder was benching Skip for a rusty Jameer..

  1300. KoolKell Says:

    Dwight Howard is the best Center in the NBA, no need to get all emotional in your hatred of him, geez.

  1301. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Skip was in his zone that playoffs, and SVG pulled the plug.

  1302. KoolKell Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:10 pm

    Please dont overrate Phil Jackson guys….Kobe is a dkhead but one of the top ten players ever and phil got gift wrapped pau gasol….he also had mj and scottie…..

    Give Phil Jackson 2 of the top 10 current nba players and he will win a title lol
    —————————————
    Now Phil Jackson is overrated? Haters are going to hate.

  1303. J Hill Says:

    Heatles
    OKC
    Lakers
    Boston – IF they bring Allen back

    Clippers will fight Denver for the 5th slot with Denver.

  1304. Method To My Madness Says:

    1293.Marks hair Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
    Pat was a great Laker coach too..

    *************

    Pat rules! Great basketball mind…shoulda beat houston in 94 finals but John Starks has heart of a mouse…Pats win in west and wins in east!…Champion!

    Lakers of 80s woulda fked up Bulls of 90s for sure

  1305. hwnrdr Says:

    you know, I think Orlando would have had another shot at the title, but Penny Hardaway got hurt in the all star game…Shaq bolted for LA. Although, everyone ran into the Bulls during those years, so…maybe not. but since the what if game was brought up…

  1306. Method To My Madness Says:

    1300.KoolKell Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
    Dwight Howard is the best Center in the NBA, no need to get all emotional in your hatred of him, geez.

    *************

    No he is fkin not….Bynum is better and Pau plays power forward in LA but gets much time at Center…i’ll take his soft self over Howard

  1307. Method To My Madness Says:

    Howard i bet doesnt even avg 20 pts for a career and has been the man there from day 1…shut it up Kell

  1308. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Penny’s knee didnt go out in the All Star game.

    But thanks for ripping that scab off.

  1309. J Hill Says:

    I think Bynum is the better basketball player, but Howard would be a better fit with Gasol and Nash.

  1310. Method To My Madness Says:

    Duece……that 09 playoffs the PGs were Skip and johnson….johnson was smart crafty vet who could play D….jaqu##r comes back and no johnson? No wonder nelson let’s fisher bang that 3

  1311. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
    Duece……that 09 playoffs the PGs were Skip and johnson….johnson was smart crafty vet who could play D….jaqu##r comes back and no johnson? No wonder nelson let’s fisher bang that 3

    —-

    Its not Jameer’s fault, its SVG.

    Johnson wasnt needed for D.. Skip was running things major.

    The whole team was thrown off when Skip was sent to the bench.

  1312. hwnrdr Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
    1293.Marks hair Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
    Pat was a great Laker coach too..

    *************

    Pat rules! Great basketball mind…shoulda beat houston in 94 finals but John Starks has heart of a mouse…Pats win in west and wins in east!…Champion!

    Lakers of 80s woulda fked up Bulls of 90s for sure

    Unfortunately, it was the turn of the tide…the 80’s Lakers and The 90’s bulls met in 91! But yeah, in the peak of Showtime…most definitely!

  1313. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    The real loser this off-season is Dirk.

    Poor guy is all by himself.

  1314. Method To My Madness Says:

    1303.J Hill Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
    Heatles
    OKC
    Lakers
    Boston – IF they bring Allen back

    Clippers will fight Denver for the 5th slot with Denver.

    *********

    The effects of yesterday’s Henny is still apparent

  1315. J Hill Says:

    How about some impartial Ws review.

    Curry, Thompson, and Barnes = DYNAMITE perimeter lineup. Only issue is experience/youth.

    Bogut is decent. Not everyone can have Bynum or Howard.

    Should go hard after Kaman.

    Playoff drought should be over.

    Not sold on Marc Jackson as a HC though.

  1316. Method To My Madness Says:

    1312.hwnrdr Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:28 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
    1293.Marks hair Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
    Pat was a great Laker coach too..

    *************

    Pat rules! Great basketball mind…shoulda beat houston in 94 finals but John Starks has heart of a mouse…Pats win in west and wins in east!…Champion!

    Lakers of 80s woulda fked up Bulls of 90s for sure

    Unfortunately, it was the turn of the tide…the 80’s Lakers and The 90’s bulls met in 91! But yeah, in the peak of Showtime…most definitely!

    *********

    Man just wish 97 and 98 Bulls plays Lakers instead of Jazz…Jordan wouldnt have all this great of all time bs attached with him…Lakers woulda gave them the blues!

  1317. Marks hair Says:

    Howard barely got to 20ppg with nobody else demanding shots.. He needs work.. Id only take him if the trade was good..

  1318. Method To My Madness Says:

    1311.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
    Duece……that 09 playoffs the PGs were Skip and johnson….johnson was smart crafty vet who could play D….jaqu##r comes back and no johnson? No wonder nelson let’s fisher bang that 3

    —-

    Its not Jameer’s fault, its SVG.

    Johnson wasnt needed for D.. Skip was running things major.

    The whole team was thrown off when Skip was sent to the bench.

    *********

    wait wait wait……johnson wasnt needed for D when Skip went out of the games? LOL…yeah they storm through east playoffs with him but his play wasnt needed…i guess the air subbed in then

  1319. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    J Hill Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
    How about some impartial Ws review.

    Curry, Thompson, and Barnes = DYNAMITE perimeter lineup. Only issue is experience/youth.

    Bogut is decent. Not everyone can have Bynum or Howard.

    Should go hard after Kaman.

    Playoff drought should be over.

    Not sold on Marc Jackson as a HC though.

    —-

    W’s need to add Heinrich & Jamison.

    Curry / Heinrich
    Klay
    Barnes / Rush / Jefferson
    Jamison / Lee
    Bogut / Festus

  1320. Method To My Madness Says:

    1315.J Hill Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
    How about some impartial Ws review.

    Curry, Thompson, and Barnes = DYNAMITE perimeter lineup. Only issue is experience/youth.

    Bogut is decent. Not everyone can have Bynum or Howard.

    Should go hard after Kaman.

    Playoff drought should be over.

    Not sold on Marc Jackson as a HC though.

    *******

    I am sold he is a two bit jesus pulpit playa lmao

  1321. Method To My Madness Says:

    1319.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
    J Hill Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
    How about some impartial Ws review.

    Curry, Thompson, and Barnes = DYNAMITE perimeter lineup. Only issue is experience/youth.

    Bogut is decent. Not everyone can have Bynum or Howard.

    Should go hard after Kaman.

    Playoff drought should be over.

    Not sold on Marc Jackson as a HC though.

    —-

    W’s need to add Heinrich & Jamison.

    Curry / Heinrich
    Klay
    Barnes / Rush / Jefferson
    Jamison / Lee
    Bogut / Festus

    ********

    No we hate Jamison here….dont ever saythat again

  1322. RaiderRockstar Says:

    The real loser this off-season is Dirk.

    Poor guy is all by himself.

    ***

    D-Howard to Mavs?

  1323. MiamiRaider78 Says:

    My brother just text’d me this-

    Could the Lakers take the Nets offer instead?

    Could that work?

  1324. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Marks hair Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
    Howard barely got to 20ppg with nobody else demanding shots.. He needs work.. Id only take him if the trade was good..

    —-

    Are you high?

    Dwight has barely lead the team in shots lol..

    PLEASE watch Magic games before you comment.

  1325. Method To My Madness Says:

    1313.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:28 pm
    The real loser this off-season is Dirk.

    Poor guy is all by himself.

    *************

    Yep poor Dirk the first ever euro player to be the man and get a finals MVP….yep feel very sorry for him lmao

  1326. KoolKell Says:

    1. Dwight Howard: Orlando Magic

    At this point, nobody knows where Dwight Howard will be playing center in the NBA in 2012. Wherever it will be, Howard will still be the NBA’s best center of 2012. If he does stay with the Magic, Howard is sure to post monster numbers to impress his future NBA suitors. 2012 could be a historic year at center for Dwight Howard.

  1327. Method To My Madness Says:

    Dwight aint schit…number 1 draft pick cant hack it in Orlando after rippin off a Shaq

  1328. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
    1311.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
    Duece……that 09 playoffs the PGs were Skip and johnson….johnson was smart crafty vet who could play D….jaqu##r comes back and no johnson? No wonder nelson let’s fisher bang that 3

    —-

    Its not Jameer’s fault, its SVG.

    Johnson wasnt needed for D.. Skip was running things major.

    The whole team was thrown off when Skip was sent to the bench.

    *********

    wait wait wait……johnson wasnt needed for D when Skip went out of the games? LOL…yeah they storm through east playoffs with him but his play wasnt needed…i guess the air subbed in then

    —-

    Turk & Courtney Lee ran point. Redick went in at 2.

    Johnson got about 12 minutes a game. And it wasnt for D.

  1329. J Hill Says:

    OKC
    Lakers
    Spurs
    Memphis
    Denver
    Clippers
    GSW
    Hornets

  1330. Marks hair Says:

    Try rereading dav…

  1331. Method To My Madness Says:

    1326.KoolKell Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
    1. Dwight Howard: Orlando Magic

    At this point, nobody knows where Dwight Howard will be playing center in the NBA in 2012. Wherever it will be, Howard will still be the NBA’s best center of 2012. If he does stay with the Magic, Howard is sure to post monster numbers to impress his future NBA suitors. 2012 could be a historic year at center for Dwight Howard.

    *****************

    This is pointless….but Kell you wanna go there?

  1332. Method To My Madness Says:

    http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-01-18/sports/os-magic-schmitz-spurs-0119-20120118_1_andrew-bynum-shaq-dwight-howard
    ****************

    Kell….do me a favor and put on the vapor rub and shut up….Shaq ripped him like he needed to be

  1333. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Marks hair Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
    Try rereading dav…

    —-

    YOU re-read lol..

    He barely lead the team in shots because EVERYONE ELSE WAS SHOOTING…

    :)

  1334. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    This is all SVG. Im barely realizing this too.

  1335. Method To My Madness Says:

    1328.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
    1311.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
    Duece……that 09 playoffs the PGs were Skip and johnson….johnson was smart crafty vet who could play D….jaqu##r comes back and no johnson? No wonder nelson let’s fisher bang that 3

    —-

    Its not Jameer’s fault, its SVG.

    Johnson wasnt needed for D.. Skip was running things major.

    The whole team was thrown off when Skip was sent to the bench.

    *********

    wait wait wait……johnson wasnt needed for D when Skip went out of the games? LOL…yeah they storm through east playoffs with him but his play wasnt needed…i guess the air subbed in then

    —-

    Turk & Courtney Lee ran point. Redick went in at 2.

    Johnson got about 12 minutes a game. And it wasnt for D.

    **************

    No way man….Johnson was the backup and played D on the other PGs…..we talked OG triple OG now who will kick yo ass in his Stacy adams…dont believe me? Ask Detroit fans

    Courtney Lee cant run water let alone run point….come on bruh

  1336. KoolKell Says:

    1. Dwight Howard, Orlando Magic (last year: first)

    Dwight Howard pays attention to defense. He runs with a smile on his face and won’t remind you of Elvin Hayes in the low post, but he is a dominant force, an MVP candidate and the best player at his position.
    He also doesn’t turn 25 years until December. Which just doesn’t seem fair, if we’re honest.

  1337. Method To My Madness Says:

    SVG is surely to blame but Howard is a btch ass nga too

  1338. Method To My Madness Says:

    1336.KoolKell Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
    1. Dwight Howard, Orlando Magic (last year: first)

    Dwight Howard pays attention to defense. He runs with a smile on his face and won’t remind you of Elvin Hayes in the low post, but he is a dominant force, an MVP candidate and the best player at his position.
    He also doesn’t turn 25 years until December. Which just doesn’t seem fair, if we’re honest.

    ************

    So excuses eh?

    Lebron was first pick in 2003…guess who was first pick in 2004?….Next

    Those two not even in same galaxy

  1339. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:40 pm
    1328.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
    1311.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
    Duece……that 09 playoffs the PGs were Skip and johnson….johnson was smart crafty vet who could play D….jaqu##r comes back and no johnson? No wonder nelson let’s fisher bang that 3

    —-

    Its not Jameer’s fault, its SVG.

    Johnson wasnt needed for D.. Skip was running things major.

    The whole team was thrown off when Skip was sent to the bench.

    *********

    wait wait wait……johnson wasnt needed for D when Skip went out of the games? LOL…yeah they storm through east playoffs with him but his play wasnt needed…i guess the air subbed in then

    —-

    Turk & Courtney Lee ran point. Redick went in at 2.

    Johnson got about 12 minutes a game. And it wasnt for D.

    **************

    No way man….Johnson was the backup and played D on the other PGs…..we talked OG triple OG now who will kick yo ass in his Stacy adams…dont believe me? Ask Detroit fans

    Courtney Lee cant run water let alone run point….come on bruh

    —-

    Johnson avg’d 14 minutes a game that whole Playoffs.

    When Skip sat, AJ played some the first half. 2nd half Turk ran point. Lee helped out.

    With all due respect to AJ, there werent any PG’s he had to defend that playoff run..

  1340. Method To My Madness Says:

    1336.KoolKell Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
    1. Dwight Howard, Orlando Magic (last year: first)

    Dwight Howard pays attention to defense. He runs with a smile on his face and won’t remind you of Elvin Hayes in the low post, but he is a dominant force, an MVP candidate and the best player at his position.
    He also doesn’t turn 25 years until December. Which just doesn’t seem fair, if we’re honest.

    **********

    Only MVP that matters is finals MVP…dwight got those yet?

    Shaq i refer to when it comes to centers

  1341. Method To My Madness Says:

    1339.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:40 pm
    1328.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
    1311.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
    Duece……that 09 playoffs the PGs were Skip and johnson….johnson was smart crafty vet who could play D….jaqu##r comes back and no johnson? No wonder nelson let’s fisher bang that 3

    —-

    Its not Jameer’s fault, its SVG.

    Johnson wasnt needed for D.. Skip was running things major.

    The whole team was thrown off when Skip was sent to the bench.

    *********

    wait wait wait……johnson wasnt needed for D when Skip went out of the games? LOL…yeah they storm through east playoffs with him but his play wasnt needed…i guess the air subbed in then

    —-

    Turk & Courtney Lee ran point. Redick went in at 2.

    Johnson got about 12 minutes a game. And it wasnt for D.

    **************

    No way man….Johnson was the backup and played D on the other PGs…..we talked OG triple OG now who will kick yo ass in his Stacy adams…dont believe me? Ask Detroit fans

    Courtney Lee cant run water let alone run point….come on bruh

    —-

    Johnson avg’d 14 minutes a game that whole Playoffs.

    When Skip sat, AJ played some the first half. 2nd half Turk ran point. Lee helped out.

    With all due respect to AJ, there werent any PG’s he had to defend that playoff run..

    ***********

    During playoffs minutes thin period…and 14 minutes is nothing to dismiss at all

    And my point was the Skip/AJ combo was doing fine and he fked with it ionthe nba finals

    If you call what Lee was doing as helping out then I got ice to sell you in Alaska

  1342. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    MVP dont meant crap.

    The award hasnt gone to who its supposed to 95% of the time.

  1343. Method To My Madness Says:

    Duece…would Skip or AJ have presence of mind to not let Fisher shoot a game tying 3 off a missed FT to send game to OT?

  1344. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    @Meth

    The point is, putting Jameer in was more the bad thing than sitting AJ. lol..

  1345. Method To My Madness Says:

    1342.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
    MVP dont meant crap.

    The award hasnt gone to who its supposed to 95% of the time.

    **********

    Exactly…fk the MVP…in my mind the MVP of regular season needs to prove it in June….Lebron did so all flack is off the guy

    Howard aint schit until I see a title and him dominating….im sick of these guys get all the accolades and commercials as if they are really handling biz

  1346. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
    Duece…would Skip or AJ have presence of mind to not let Fisher shoot a game tying 3 off a missed FT to send game to OT?

    —-

    For sure. That’s why playing Jameer was the issue.

  1347. Method To My Madness Says:

    1344.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
    @Meth

    The point is, putting Jameer in was more the bad thing than sitting AJ. lol..

    ***************

    Jameer didnt need to fkin play period….skip/aj combo worked just fine for first 3 rounds…did it or did it not?

  1348. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    After all these NBA moves, has anyone got closer to beating the Heat?..

    Only the Thunder.

  1349. KoolKell Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:43 pm

    SVG is surely to blame but Howard is a btch ass nga too
    —————————————
    The KKK leader David Duke couldn’t have said it any better.

  1350. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
    1344.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
    @Meth

    The point is, putting Jameer in was more the bad thing than sitting AJ. lol..

    ***************

    Jameer didnt need to fkin play period….skip/aj combo worked just fine for first 3 rounds…did it or did it not?

    —-

    yes.

    pretty sure were saying the same thing man..lol

  1351. Method To My Madness Says:

    1346.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
    Duece…would Skip or AJ have presence of mind to not let Fisher shoot a game tying 3 off a missed FT to send game to OT?

    —-

    For sure. That’s why playing Jameer was the issue.
    ***********

    Yes yes,…. i never said he was a starter but his vet play was needed…skip was beastin as starter well enough…SVG is a moron…but dwight sucks still

  1352. Method To My Madness Says:

    1349.KoolKell Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:43 pm

    SVG is surely to blame but Howard is a btch ass nga too
    —————————————
    The KKK leader David Duke couldn’t have said it any better.

    *********

    Neither can Henry Gates Louis

  1353. Method To My Madness Says:

    1348.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
    After all these NBA moves, has anyone got closer to beating the Heat?..

    Only the Thunder.

    ********

    Laker fans cant accept that

  1354. Marks hair Says:

    Dav I said he barely lead the team with 20 points per game not he barely lead the team in shots per game

  1355. KoolKell Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:43 pm

    SVG is surely to blame but Howard is a btch ass nga too
    —————————————–
    You self hating Tom.

  1356. Plunketthead Says:

    Wow RR,
    I really got under your skin.

    I won the cup three years ago and there were plenty serious players.

    Its all in my fun, my friend.

  1357. Method To My Madness Says:

    Kell loves running to rescue of his fellow step n fetch c00n nggas….you must have met him at the 2008 DNC huh?

  1358. Method To My Madness Says:

    1355.KoolKell Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:43 pm

    SVG is surely to blame but Howard is a btch ass nga too
    —————————————–
    You self hating Tom.

    ********

    Yes as you walked down the aisle with your soul sister from Mother Africa

  1359. KoolKell Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:43 pm

    SVG is surely to blame but Howard is a btch ass nga too
    —————————————–
    Racist piece of schit.

  1360. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Marks hair Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
    Dav I said he barely lead the team with 20 points per game not he barely lead the team in shots per game

    —-

    You said he did that while no one else demanded any of the shots.

    Which I pointed out was not true.

    :)

  1361. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    And the Heat will add Ray Allen most likely.

    possibly Rashard Lewis too.

  1362. Method To My Madness Says:

    Wow Kell copy same post over and over again and responding to it…Kell you know you can say all that in one post right? Good job

  1363. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Wow RR,
    I really got under your skin.

    ***

    no you didn’t Plunk, just trash talking right back at ya!

  1364. Method To My Madness Says:

    1361.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
    And the Heat will add Ray Allen most likely.

    possibly Rashard Lewis too.

    *******

    Ray and Rashard back together? Wouldnt it be funny if OKC beat miami in next year’s finals with the two former sonics players there? LOL Would be awesome…becuz OKC vs Miami is going down whether you like it or not

  1365. Method To My Madness Says:

    Ha get under RRS’s skin? Good luck with that

  1366. Plunketthead Says:

    OK!!

  1367. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
    1361.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
    And the Heat will add Ray Allen most likely.

    possibly Rashard Lewis too.

    *******

    Ray and Rashard back together? Wouldnt it be funny if OKC beat miami in next year’s finals with the two former sonics players there? LOL Would be awesome…becuz OKC vs Miami is going down whether you like it or not

    —-

    That would be ironic..

    Maybe look up Radmonavich too.. Robert Swift?..

  1368. Method To My Madness Says:

    Kell I love how you call me racist….let’s get a general consensus fro mthe blog who is the bigger racist you or the B@uce…..naw u dont wanna cuz you will lose in a landslide

  1369. Method To My Madness Says:

    Robert Swift? lol…my god i couldnt believe that schit back then

  1370. Dan78 Says:

    Hey whats taking Cork so long on the Davidson story?

  1371. KoolKell Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:43 pm

    SVG is surely to blame but Howard is a btch ass nga too
    ——————————
    Racist, self-hating, ignorant piece of schit.

  1372. Plunketthead Says:

    Scary & Pork are unable or unwilling to throw us a bone so we dont have to chew on old 1,500 post counts.

    Some blog pimps those two are
    I think Becker is the real pimp

  1373. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
    Robert Swift? lol…my god i couldnt believe that schit back then

    —-

    Im 30 minutes away from where he went to High School, dudes around here were punking him in league.

    I LOL’d so hard when I heard his name get called..

  1374. Plunketthead Says:

    KK is more of a bigot then a racist unless you count his hate for black women as being racist

  1375. KoolKell Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 3:04 pm

    Kell I love how you call me racist….let’s get a general consensus fro mthe blog who is the bigger racist you or the B@uce…..naw u dont wanna cuz you will lose in a landslide
    ———————————-
    Uncle Tom piece of schit.

  1376. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    My hope is we can work out a sign & trade with Sacramento.

    Ryan Anderson for Tyreke Evans.

  1377. Marks hair Says:

    who is the big star that demands dwight howard’s shots? Nobody… He doesnt take more cause he doesnt have much game.. my comment was about ppg and who should get the ball..

  1378. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    And hire Brian Shaw..

  1379. TxRaider210 Says:

    Whut up Nation? Big week for basketball fans eh?

  1380. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Marks hair Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 3:10 pm
    who is the big star that demands dwight howard’s shots? Nobody… He doesnt take more cause he doesnt have much game.. my comment was about ppg and who should get the ball..

    —-

    Its painfully obvious you dont know much about the Orlando Magic.

    Its all good bro. Raider on!

  1381. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Its gonna come down to Malone or Shaw..

  1382. KoolKell Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:43 pm

    SVG is surely to blame but Howard is a btch ass nga too
    ————————————–
    Oh yeaah, “they love Da B@uce” in here. You Uncle Tom piece of schit

  1383. Dan78 Says:

    What you talking bout Willis!!!

  1384. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Dan78 Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
    What you talking bout Willis!!!

    —-

    Was that in the asian guy from Hangover voice??..

  1385. Marks hair Says:

    Sorry Dav I just dont agree that howard is a franchise player.. offense just isnt there.. There is nobody on oralando who should take his shots.. 25ppg minimum..
    But go raiders..

  1386. Dan78 Says:

    No it was in the late great Gary Coleman Voice..

  1387. Method To My Madness Says:

    Look at Kell’s meltdown lol….classic…too easy…next he will find me and attack me with his diapers after another “accident”

  1388. KoolKell Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 3:24 pm

    Look at Kell’s meltdown lol….classic…too easy…
    ———————————-
    I’m not meltingdown, you Bootlicking piece of schit.

  1389. Method To My Madness Says:

    1388.KoolKell Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 3:24 pm

    Look at Kell’s meltdown lol….classic…too easy…
    ———————————-
    I’m not meltingdown, you Bootlicking piece of schit.

    **************

    Coming from the guy who kisses democrats ass all day…..a bootlicker is surely higher on the food chain than you are

  1390. KoolKell Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:43 pm

    SVG is surely to blame but Howard is a btch ass nga too
    Look at Kell’s meltdown lol….classic…too easy…
    ————————————
    Bootlickin Troll.

  1391. Method To My Madness Says:

    1385.Marks hair Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 3:19 pm
    Sorry Dav I just dont agree that howard is a franchise player.. offense just isnt there.. There is nobody on oralando who should take his shots.. 25ppg minimum..
    But go raiders..

    ********

    Bucky Larsen…..I agree

  1392. Method To My Madness Says:

    1390.KoolKell Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 3:28 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:43 pm

    SVG is surely to blame but Howard is a btch ass nga too
    Look at Kell’s meltdown lol….classic…too easy…
    ————————————
    Bootlickin Troll.

    ***********

    Ooooh put two posts of mine together….clever…changing it up eh?

  1393. Method To My Madness Says:

    Kell how was your 4th of July…what did you do besides argue with Beecher? lol

  1394. KoolKell Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:43 pm

    SVG is surely to blame but Howard is a btch ass nga too
    ——————————–
    Ignorant piece of schit.

  1395. Method To My Madness Says:

    Kell….you seem to be stuck on the same post….everything ok?

  1396. Method To My Madness Says:

    Kell must have missed his usual afternoon nap…no wonder he is so grumpy

  1397. KoolKell Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:43 pm

    Howard is a btch ass nga too
    ———————————
    Wow.

  1398. KoolKell Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:43 pm

    Howard is a btch ass nga too
    ——————————-
    Bootlicker.

  1399. Method To My Madness Says:

    Michael Kelly is a top notch Real Estate Agent
    ******************

    Wow.

  1400. Method To My Madness Says:

    1398.KoolKell Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 3:40 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 2:43 pm

    Howard is a btch ass nga too
    ——————————-
    Bootlicker.

    *****************

    House negga

  1401. Dan78 Says:

    copy and paste coming up………

  1402. Method To My Madness Says:

    lol Dan…you havent flown all over the world nor have you made millions like Kell…you are a bootlicker

  1403. Dan78 Says:

    hey i’m just styling and profiling
    Woooooooooo….

  1404. KoolKell Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 3:40 pm

    House negga
    ——————————–
    Must be talking about your fatt-azzed greasy daddy. I guess that’s where you got that Bootlickin attitude.

  1405. Dan78 Says:

    In a coked out Rodney King voice..
    Cant we ummmmm
    Cant we all just get along

  1406. Method To My Madness Says:

    1404.KoolKell Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 3:40 pm

    House negga
    ——————————–
    Must be talking about your fatt-azzed greasy daddy. I guess that’s where you got that Bootlickin attitude.

    ***********

    Yeah yeah Kell…as we know you wont say this to anyone’s face especially Pops…nice try Kellout

  1407. Method To My Madness Says:

    1403.Dan78 Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
    hey i’m just styling and profiling
    Woooooooooo….

    ********

    To be the man…you got to beat the man!

  1408. Method To My Madness Says:

    Anyhow its beena blast as usual….hopefully we get some news since its July about our rookies signing since it wont be a problem cuz we got 3rd-7th rounders

  1409. Dan78 Says:

    “I’m a limousine ridin’, jet flyin’, kiss stealin’, wheelin’ dealin’ son of a gun. Woooooo!!”

  1410. TxRaider210 Says:

    Dan78 Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 3:54 pm
    “I’m a limousine ridin’, jet flyin’, kiss stealin’, wheelin’ dealin’ son of a gun. Woooooo!!”
    —————-
    That’s the real deal man, party on and grab a few chunky ones for me!!

  1411. Seymour Bush Says:

    you wonder why MNG did not renew their domain name and let it go back to Network Associates until you come here and start reading the comments…..

  1412. TxRaider210 Says:

    Nothing worse than getting a phone interview while you’re half drunk, at least she only offered 9 bucks an hour. pphheewww

  1413. Silverandblack666 Says:

    One of my fondest memories of attending Raiders game is walking through the tunnel and everyone is yelling

    RRRRAAIIIDDDDEERRRRRSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I cant wait I am so pumped up to be in that Colosseum 39 days from now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  1414. TxRaider210 Says:

    Raiders will put the hurt on opposing teams this year, I will drink the Kool-aid this time around.

  1415. Marks hair Says:

    I gues anthony smith is charged with yet another murder. #4 I think.. Way to go ex raider..

  1416. KoolKell Says:

    Yeah yeah Kell…as we know you wont say this to anyone’s face especially Pops…nice try Kellout
    ———————-
    Yeah like you’re going to call Dwight Howard a btch n-word to HIS face.

  1417. TxRaider210 Says:

    Anthony Smith = Wack-job. can’t fix that sometimes I’d guess..

  1418. Seymour Bush Says:

    TxRaider210 Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 4:48 pm

    Anthony Smith = Wack-job. can’t fix that sometimes I’d guess..
    =================================

    Kind of amazing to think that the 95 Raider defensive line:

    Chet McGlockton: dead
    Darrel Russell: dead
    Anthony Smith: four others dead

  1419. TxRaider210 Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 4:54 pm
    TxRaider210 Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 4:48 pm

    Anthony Smith = Wack-job. can’t fix that sometimes I’d guess..
    =================================

    Kind of amazing to think that the 95 Raider defensive line:

    Chet McGlockton: dead
    Darrel Russell: dead
    Anthony Smith: four others dead
    —————-
    Yeah man very sad to see that stuff, glad we have Napoleon to help players make adult decisions and be pros.

  1420. Seymour Bush Says:

    And Eric Turner is no longer alive from that team. Kind of amazing really.

  1421. TxRaider210 Says:

    It was hard to see Javon Walker’s career end like it did…having his friend die in his arms in denver then to be robbed and beat up in vegas. geez

  1422. Dakota Says:

    I wanted Nash on the lakers at the trade deadline, so I guess I am happy about this.

  1423. Seymour Bush Says:

    Dakota Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 5:05 pm

    I wanted Nash on the lakers at the trade deadline, so I guess I am happy about this.
    ===============================

    Granted, Nash played one of his best seasons but can you really expect much out of a 40 year old point guard?

  1424. Seymour Bush Says:

    especially come playoff time, where opponents are going to start knocking peoples heads off?

  1425. TxRaider210 Says:

    Deron Williams was taken, but props to Lakers for getting Nash, dude is a baller.

  1426. Seymour Bush Says:

    I need to run, folks. Was just informed that Raiders legend Ben Davidson passed away. My editor has instructed me to track down the story. Sorry to end so soon. Will reschedule for tomorrow, if possible.
    =================================

    Translation: dollar taco’s with each shot of tequila at the local sportwriters bar.

  1427. TxRaider210 Says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9EL6VRZ8W0

  1428. . Says:

    :mrgreen: Messy… Oooooooh Yeah All that Laker talk made it get Messy in here. Football baby!
    The RAIDAHS. Fck the rest…….

  1429. . Says:

    TxRaider210 Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
    Raiders will put the hurt on opposing teams this year, I will drink the Kool-aid this time around.
    …………………………………………

    :mrgreen: Oh Yeah they will. Code Raidah!

  1430. Hippity Jigs Says:

    Hello

  1431. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    Saw some discussion in here about great NBA coaches.

    Jackson, Auerbach, Riley. Obviously, those names come up because of the number of championships they won.

    When I watch games on the tube and the HC is wired for sound, I can’t help but notice how little actual tactical coaching goes on during time outs.

    Seems like there’s a lot of generalities, like ‘we need stops’, ‘keep playing solid defense’, ‘keep playing hard’.

    Lots of general ‘rah rah’ stuff. Not as much tactical ‘zone up’, ‘full court press’, ‘immediate foul’ coaching as one would think.

    I think NBA coaches generally make their money by installing systems that best fit their squads, running good practices and managing the players.

    During the Laker ’showtime’ era of Magic, Kareem, Worthy and Coop had the good fortune to sit courtside immediately next to the Laker bench for a half dozen games.

    Usually sat right next to Kurt Rambis and got to listen in and observe what went on during time-outs and huddles.

    If it was a Laker possession and points were needed towards the end of a game, Riley would call the same play every single time.

    All Riley would say is ‘two man game’ and who was in-bounding (usually Magic).

    The Lakers would then isolate Worthy and Kareem on one side. The Lakers would get the ball into Worthy’s hands and he’d either take his man to the hole or dish it to KAJ. Worked every time too.

    Worthy had one of the best first steps I’ve ever seen. Greased lightning. KAJ could get his shot off whenever he wanted it.

    Was Riley a genius ? I don’t know. But I do know he had a play that worked and wasn’t scared of ‘going to the well’ too often with it. It was like clockwork.

    Having players that can execute sure makes it easier to be a good coach.

  1432. Seymour Bush Says:

    Was Riley a genius ? I don’t know.
    ======================================

    Having Worthy and Magic Johnson certainly would make anyone smarter. And the best basketball player I have ever seen was Kareem Abdul Jabbar. By Far. All that being said 99, that is an excellent post. Where Riley might have been a “genius” is “Coaching 101″. If a play works use it until they figure out how to stop it. That was something that Jon Gruden NEVER learned.

  1433. Los mal ojos Says:

    Intrepid Says:
    June 30th, 2012 at 12:09 pm

    Raidernationdave Says:
    June 30th, 2012 at 11:45 am

    Woe. Scheisse. Things must really be bad when you advertise live chat 4 days in advance.
    /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////I think our pleas were heard and Becker is trying to keep the posts to a manageable number. No more than 1500 would be nice. Thanks, Becker.
    //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////Clock’s ticking, Becker. Or odometer.

  1434. KoolKell Says:

    Well Phil Jackson won12? Using a system nobody else uses, the Triangle……with less talent than Magic, Worthy and Kareem.

  1435. Raiders for life Says:

    I sent Steve an E-mail the other day asking about the blog. His reply was pretty straight forward.

    ————

    Been asked by our editors to use all our vacation time, which means we either work for free or do as asked. We’ll be back soon. Not much fresh to write about right now anyway, which works out well. Thanks for checking

  1436. DJ Johnny Says:

    The players in the NFL on one hand are always complaining about safety with former players going so far as to pursue a class action lawsuit against the league.

    On the other hand they decide to sue the league for doing something to try and protect their long term health and safety by enforcing the “bounty rule”.

    What a bunch of idiots.

  1437. Hippity Jigs Says:

    DJ Johnny Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 10:16 pm
    The players in the NFL on one hand are always complaining about safety with former players going so far as to pursue a class action lawsuit against the league.

    On the other hand they decide to sue the league for doing something to try and protect their long term health and safety by enforcing the “bounty rule”.

    What a bunch of idiots.
    ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

    Pretty soon all the teams will become generic and sterile and parity will be so common place that they’ll be forced to have a twenty eight team playoff format like the nba. Everybody wins because contact will be illegal and the fans will like it to because their team made the playoffs. Soccer will be the new contact sport but rugby will be legit. Those dudes drink a lot of beer during the game and feel no pain til they wake up the next day. Hollywood will take over what we call the nfl today and they will take the glamourization to another level like they’ve done to the super bowl half time.

  1438. DJ Johnny Says:

    Gee….I wonder why CB Chris Johnson has not hooked up with another team yet?

    With all respect and condolences to CJ’s family for that tragedy last yr…Hue would not have given him the rest of the season off if he didn’t suck as a cornerback.

    That sounded harsh didn’t it?

    I’m just sayin’.

  1439. Sullivan44 Says:

    Seymour Bush,

    Jon Gruden is the best coach we’ve had going back to Tom Flores.

  1440. raiderzmaverick Says:

    Raiders for life Says:
    June 30th, 2012 at 1:38 pm

    I’m trying to not get too excited about the rookies or UDFA’s. Last year my MUP pick was Stevie Brown and then he was released.
    ============================
    Stevie Brown could’ve won – he played pretty damned well after being picked up by NE.

  1441. raiderzmaverick Says:

    Hippity Jigs Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 10:33 pm

    DJ Johnny Says:
    July 5th, 2012 at 10:16 pm
    The players in the NFL on one hand are always complaining about safety with former players going so far as to pursue a class action lawsuit against the league.

    On the other hand they decide to sue the league for doing something to try and protect their long term health and safety by enforcing the “bounty rule”.

    What a bunch of idiots.
    ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

    Pretty soon all the teams will become generic and sterile and parity will be so common place that they’ll be forced to have a twenty eight team playoff format like the nba. Everybody wins because contact will be illegal and the fans will like it to because their team made the playoffs. Soccer will be the new contact sport but rugby will be legit. Those dudes drink a lot of beer during the game and feel no pain til they wake up the next day. Hollywood will take over what we call the nfl today and they will take the glamourization to another level like they’ve done to the super bowl half time.
    ===================
    All could become real….except soccer will never become the contact sport. Any time those guys run into each other at least one of them falls pretending to whine in agony until they realize the ref didn’t call a foul.

  1442. hwnrdr Says:

    Wow…wasn’t this chat thing last week? So what, a week and a half of nothing???
    With that said:
    Good Morning Nation!

  1443. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    GOOD DAY HWNRDR.A POST ABOVE SAY’S THEY R ON VACATION..

  1444. hwnrdr Says:

    I should have taken vacation also! My bossess all took off from yesterday,and now, the person I work with for testing purposes is off today! It’s gonna be a sit here and twiddle my thumbs kind of day!

  1445. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Gee….I wonder why CB Chris Johnson has not hooked up with another team yet?

    ***

    @DJG

    CJ37 was a good player for us. Al Davis milked more out of him than anybody else could have.

    7th round pick in 2003 by the Packers. Traded after 2 seasons on the practice squad to the Rams and started 1 game for them in 2005. Spent the 2006 offseason with KC, but failed to crack the 53 man roster. 2006 = out of football. Al Davis signs him in March of 2007, no doubt due to his blazing 40 time. was pretty crappy for us as a reserve & special teamer in ‘07 as I recall. 2008 he bursts on the scene and replaces DeAngelo Hall at midseason and cashes in during the ‘09 offseason. 2010 offseason, Routt finally beats him out and starts opposite Nnamdi. CJ37 regains the starting role in ‘11 after Nnamdi bolts for Philly and gets injured right away. Then the family tragedy. His heart just isn’t in it anymore. Considering the fact that he was basically trash for his first 3 NFL teams and spend a year out of football before we signed him, CJ37 was a solid role player for us and a class act. I thank him for his contributions to the silver & black

  1446. hwnrdr Says:

    Well said Rockstar!

  1447. RaiderRockstar Says:

    by the way, saw some guys mention Raiders that passed away WAY too soon …

    I would like to add Leon Bender & Marquis Cooper to that list

    thank you

  1448. guest123 Says:

    LM on the roster bubble?

    By Gregg Rosenthal
    Around The League editor

    The Oakland Raiders’ wide receiver depth chart was one of the thinnest in the league not so long ago. Now you could argue that it’s one of the deepest, even if we don’t know how it will shake out.

    Consider Louis Murphy. He led the team’s wideout group with 41 catches and 609 yards as a 23-year-old in 2010. Now he could be fighting just to make the team.

    Steve Corkran of the Contra Costa Times believes that Murphy is in a battle just to make the roster because of buzzy rookies Juron Criner and Rod Streater. Criner has looked the part all offseason despite his status as a fifth-round draft pick. Streater, an undrafted rookie, took some snaps with Oakland’s first team last month.

    The top three wideouts in Oakland this year figure to be our breakout choice Denarius Moore, an improved Darrius Heyward-Bey and Jacoby Ford. That is an explosive group; all three players can take any play the distance.

    While there isn’t a lot of experience or variety with this Oakland receiver collection, they will present a lot of problems for defenses. It’s an Al Davis kind of group.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82a57486/article/louis-murphy-in-danger-of-not-making-raiders

  1449. RaiderRockstar Says:

    CJ37 should have been one of those guys playing in the UFL. first 4 years in the league were pathetic. 3 teams said “no thanks” and he was just a 7th rounder to begin with.

    5 years as an Oakland Raider

    he was a WAY better nickel corner than Routt!

    you could even make a case that he was a better man2man starting CB [when healthy]

    problem is, he’s always hurt & turns 33 in September. plus the family tragedy. as JFB said earlier this offseason, I wouldn’t be upset if Reggie gave him a cheap 1-year deal.

    If that were to happen, he might just beat out everybody and be named the starter though!

  1450. guest123 Says:

    http://nfl.si.com/2012/07/02/offseason-breakdown-oakland-raiders/?sct=nfl_bf3_a3

    Offseason Breakdown: Oakland Raiders
    Oakland Raiders, Offseason Breakdown | Comments

    After a midseason trade to the Raiders in 2011, Carson Palmer finished with a 4-3 record. Can he step it up in 2012? (ABACAUSA.COM)

    With NFL training camps just around the corner, we’re taking a team-by-team look at how the offseason played out and what you can expect in 2012. Click here to read them all.

    Chalk up 2011 as a year of missed opportunities for the Raiders. Despite a flawed roster and a coaching staff led by Hue Jackson that would find itself searching for work after the year ended, Oakland sat at 7-4 at the end of November and was in firm command of the AFC West.

    Three straight losses over the next three weeks — including a crushing 28-27 setback to the Lions, in which Oakland coughed up a 13-point fourth-quarter lead at home — changed all that. The Raiders still had a shot to steal the AFC West in Week 17, as Denver lost, but they could not get the win they needed against San Diego.

    Jackson’s out as head coach now and ex-Broncos defensive coordinator Dennis Allen is in. As such, this figures to be a year of transition in Oakland, especially since the Raiders franchise is entering its first full season without the late Al Davis overseeing things since 1963.

    2011 Record: 8-8 (t-first in AFC East; missed playoffs on tiebreaker)

    Key Additions: CB Ronald Bartel, OL Tony Bergstrom, G Mike Brisiel, RB Mike Goodson, QB Matt Leinart, DE Dave Tollefson, LB Philip Wheeler
    Key Subtractions: RB Michael Bush, TE Kevin Boss, OL Bruce Campbell, QB Jason Campbell, DT John Henderson, CB Chris Johnson, CB Stanford Routt, C Samson Satele, DE Trevor Scott, DE/LB Kamerion Wimbley

    Team Strengths: RB, G, DT, S

    Team Weaknesses: WR, TE, CB

    ************

    Notice CNNSI thinks the top weakness of the Raiders is at WR. Really? Who are the dopes that write for them?

  1451. J Hill Says:

    Go Dodgers!

  1452. RaiderRockstar Says:

    @G123

    welcome back!

    on that note, unfortunately it’s time to get some work done. be back around lunch

  1453. guest123 Says:

    Sorry, but no thanks to signing CJ37 again. It’s time to make the youngsters sink or swim. Think forward and don’t look back.

  1454. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    I CAN CATCH AND I RUN GOOD PATTERNS,BUT MY 40 TIME SUX…

  1455. hwnrdr Says:

    DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 6:20 am
    I CAN CATCH AND I RUN GOOD PATTERNS,BUT MY 40 TIME SUX…

    LOL, I liked Pastor Napolean’s tweet when someone asked him what is his 40 time now. He said 7.2…haha!

  1456. J Hill Says:

    Would be surprised to see Lou Murphy cut.

  1457. hwnrdr Says:

    So Jason Kidd going to New York to possible mentor Jeremy Lin…but wait, there’s a report that he may sign with Houston. So…???

  1458. J Hill Says:

    Bartell
    DVD
    Chekwa
    Spencer

    Is that all we have at corner?

    We still have Huff comparing his impact to C Wood, so will he play some corner this season too?

    I still think the kid from GB has a shot. Played well in place of C Wood in the SB, I believe.

  1459. J Hill Says:

    NY can match any offer

  1460. guest123 Says:

    Juron Criner can catch and run good patterns too and his 40 SUX as well,

    so Don’t feel bad about yout 40

  1461. guest123 Says:

    J Hill Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 6:31 am
    Bartell
    DVD
    Chekwa
    Spencer

    Is that all we have at corner?

    *****

    Don’t forget about Underwood and Lee, and only Bartell looks like a sure fire starter of this group. If he goes down to injury, we are going to be hurting.

  1462. J Hill Says:

    i thought DVD and Chekwa looked good when they started last year. Only thing that tripped them up was the injury bug.

  1463. raiderzmaverick Says:

    guest123 Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 6:12 am

    ************

    Notice CNNSI thinks the top weakness of the Raiders is at WR. Really? Who are the dopes that write for them?
    ============
    That’s because none of our WRs are proven. DHB got some stats, but is inconsitent, catching balls that are thrown low or the shorter type routes, but still having a load of trouble adjusting to balls thrown over his head or not on target. Once he catches short-to-mid passes he’s pretty dangerous with size and speed, but wouldn’t be a #1 on any other team. Ford and Moore showed potential, but haven’t put it together for a season consistantly. Aside from DHB, none of our guys have caught over 50 passes in a season. It’s a unit that has a ton of potential, but is all hype until they really produce consistantly.

    I personally DO think they can amount to be a pretty powerful group, but that’s based on potential and glimpses of what they could be capable of.

  1464. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Team Strengths: RB, G, DT, S

    ********************

    Savage!!!!

  1465. Raider O Says:

    I think DVD or Chekwa will start with Bartell. I’m not sold on Spencer.

  1466. theghostronin79 Says:

    Chekwa would be my bet.

  1467. hwnrdr Says:

    Not sold on Spencer either. Don’t care if he knows Tarver from his days in SF.

  1468. Raider O Says:

    According to that burn rate stats, DVD had the lowest burn rate on the team last year.

  1469. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Those burn rates aren’t worth an ear of corn.

    Didn’t CJ37 have the 4th best “burn rate” in 2010?

    Now he is out of the league!!!

  1470. theghostronin79 Says:

    At most positions, size matters. DVD is just too small. Can you see him trying to press Megatron? Get the “F” outta here. Plus he doesn’t like to get in the “Rucous” like Woodson says. He’s usually a spectator when it comes to tackling and trhows a lazy arm out there when a guy blows past him. He’s gotta show me something different.

  1471. guest123 Says:

    Team Weaknesses: WR, TE, CB

    ***********

    Whoever wrote this about the Raiders is far out of touch with the current situation. WR is a strength, and the lack of production historically can be tied to having journeyman QB play of Soup and Gradkowski.

    Since CP3 came off the couch and averaged nearly 300 yards passing in his 9 starts, this is a lethal group. Certainly not a “weakness” of any sort.

    If you want weakness, I’ll give you in no particular order:

    LBs, CBs, TEs

  1472. hwnrdr Says:

    I agree JFB…Routt had the best burn rate in 2010 right? With some justifying the loss of Nnamdi. Yeah, but also the most penalized!

  1473. Raider O Says:

    Stanford Routt — Many fans scratched their heads when Routt was given a three-year, $31.5-million contract, with $20 million guaranteed. Would that not have been a good offer to at least throw at Asomugha? Then, after re-working the deal to clear some cap space, Routt had a five-year, $54.5-million contract, with the same $20 million guaranteed. Yes, that’s No. 1 cornerback money. But did Routt perform like a No. 1 cornerback in his first season without Asomugha on the other side of the field? In 2009, Routt allowed opponents to complete 65.9 percent of their passes thrown at him. In 2010, it dropped to 39.4 percent. This past season — 47.4 percent while giving up eight touchdowns. Plus, he was the most penalized player in the NFL, getting flagged 17 times, including nine in the last three games. So while he started strong, things came unraveled at the end. Not only for him and the secondary, but the entire defense as a unit. Routt did, however, have a career-high four interceptions.

    Lito Sheppard — The two-time Pro Bowler and former All-Pro had seen better days. One of the last players cut by the Raiders in the exhibition season, Sheppard was re-signed on Oct. 31 — it marked his fourth team in four years — and started seven of the nine games in which he appeared. He would have a highlight moment here and there but the 5-foot-9 cornerback was victimized by San Diego’s tall wideouts in the season finale. For the season, Sheppard had a 58.8 percent burn rate and gave up a touchdown.

    DeMarcus Van Dyke — Oakland had high hopes for the lithe Van Dyke, the fastest player at the Combine, in drafting him out of Miami in the third round. Listed generously at 180 pounds, the rookie had trouble with the bigger, more physical receivers in the league. Which is to say, most of them. His lone interception came against Matt Cassel in the Raiders’ 28-0 loss to Kansas City on Oct. 23. Van Dyke surrendered one TD and had a burn rate of 43.8.

    Michael Huff — Coming off a season in which Huff was named second-team All-Pro, Huff cashed in at the bank quite nicely, thank you very much. The free safety inked a four-year, $32-million contract in camp, with $16 million paid up front. His body, though, betrayed him. Having never missed a game in his five-year career, Huff missed four in 2011 with an assortment of ankle and hamstring injuries. He did not have a sack for the first time since 2008, his two interceptions were his fewest in three years, as were his 38 tackles. Huff was charged with giving up two TDs and a 55.3 percent burn rate. There have been rumblings of moving him to cornerback opposite Routt.

    Tyvon Branch — A seeming bright spot in the secondary, Branch was named an alternate to the Pro Bowl after a breakthrough season. He again led the Raiders in tackles, with 109, and his end-zone interception of the New York Jets’ Mark Sanchez in Oakland’s home opener was a thing of beauty. The strong safety’s coverage skills also seemed to improve, even as he had a burn rate of 55.7 percent, while being charged with five TDs. He is a free agent and, along with running back Michael Bush, is the Raiders’ top priority in re-signing for the 2012 season and a new coach.

    Mike Mitchell — After a breakthrough sophomore season in which he was seemingly on the chopping block at the beginning of the year, Mitchell hurt a knee in camp and did not play until Week 4. And while he maintained a certain level of being an emotional leader, the safety-who-sometimes-doubles-as-a-linebacker struggled through an injury-marred season. He had 31 tackles in 13 games with an interception of Aaron Rodgers. His burn rate was 34.6 percent, and he gave up a pair of touchdowns.

    Matt Giordano — One of the last players cut in camp, Giordano was back two days later and immediately made his presence felt in the season opener at Denver with a sideline interception. What the safety might have lacked in tackling skills he made up for as a ballhawk. His career-high five interceptions led the Raiders. And his 70 tackles were also a career high and were third-most on the team. The seven-year vet will also be a free agent. He had a 42.5 percent burn rate and gave up three TDs.

  1474. guest123 Says:

    DVD isn’t too small. But he plays too small.

  1475. hwnrdr Says:

    I think Chekwa will surprise this year! DVD got to step up! I agree, Guest, plays too small!

  1476. Just Fire Baby Says:

    We will see if DVD picked up some in-flight ball skills this offseason.

    I am not sure I seen a DB look so lost with the ball in the air as he did last season, but hopefully it was a rookie, deer-in-the-headlights issue.

  1477. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Also will be interesting to see if he learned to catch.

    After we drafted him, I read one scouting report that said he could have had 20 INT’s in college if he could catch.

    Instead I think he had 5, lol.

  1478. Raider O Says:

    So it’s a coincidence that the best CBs like Revis, Nnamdi, Carr, etc.. have the lowest burn rates?!

  1479. guest123 Says:

    DVD could learn some in flight ball skills from King Darrius!

  1480. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    Man this is painful to read. The Top 10 Raiders who got away. Al was one of the greats but man his later years were sad.

    I think we will be adding Sterling Moore to this list in two more years. They also forgot Warren Sapp -SIKE!!!!

    http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2012/7/6/3140640/top-10-players-the-oakland-raiders-let-get-away#storyjump

  1481. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    I was sick when we let Charles Woodson go. I knew he was going through a dry spell.

  1482. Just Fire Baby Says:

    So it’s a coincidence that the best CBs like Revis, Nnamdi, Carr, etc.. have the lowest burn rates?!

    *************************

    Your list had MM34 with the best burn rate of our secondary, and he is easily one of our worst if not THE worst cover guy.

  1483. hwnrdr Says:

    When Woodson was let go, he was coming off the injury bug 2 years in a row. And also, wasn’t he in a car with a drunk chick? The move was good for him, bad for us!

  1484. Raider O Says:

    Btw, it’s not weird for a player to have one/ few good years in his career like T Scott, CJ, Wimbley, SAVAGE, etc…

  1485. J Hill Says:

    Mike Mithchell was keeoing count on the TEs he “shut down”, right?

    Maybe his burn rate wasn’t that bad.

  1486. hwnrdr Says:

    Could you imagine Woodson still being here when Nnamdi had his break out year? Well, still wouldn’t have mattered considering we had that darn bed and breakfast offense!

  1487. Marks hair Says:

    Routt would have had a bad burn rate if he didnt hold every guy he covered..

  1488. guest123 Says:

    It’s a myth that MM34 could cover TE’s. Branch was the man doing that work, and somehow an urban myth grew out of it that MM34 was somehow responsible.

    Only thing MM34 has to worry about are his arm bruises along his forearms. That’s all he ever does is attempt to bring down players with arm swats. Can’t cover or tackle or do anything well.

  1489. J Hill Says:

    The Polston brothers.

    That’s why C Wood isnt a Raider.

  1490. Just Fire Baby Says:

    The problem with the “burn rate” is that it only factors in completions against and TD’s.

    Well, in my world there is a difference in giving up an 8 yard catch, and a 40 yard catch.

    MM34 may have not had much of a “burn rate” but when he did get burned, it was for huge chunks of yards.

  1491. Marks hair Says:

    Bed and breakfast… Smh.. Rip al..

  1492. guest123 Says:

    Marks hair Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 7:38 am
    Routt would have had a bad burn rate if he didnt hold every guy he covered..

    *********

    good point. Also, we wouldn’t have been setting up first and goal so often as we did if Routt would have kept his hothead temper under control.

  1493. Marks hair Says:

    Its a myth that mm34 is a football player..

  1494. guest123 Says:

    Notice when MM34 and Branch are on the field at the same time… watch Branch’s body language. It’s like “oh no, please Huff get back in here man I need you”.

  1495. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Branch had a burn rate of 55.7 percent, while being charged with five TDs

    Mitchell’s burn rate was 34.6 percent and he’s the emotional leader in the locker room

    trade Gibril Wilson 2.0 !!

  1496. RaiderRockstar Says:

    that article posted by Raider O called Giordano a “ballhawk”

    thoughts, DAV?

  1497. Raider O Says:

    I don’t get all this hate for MM. He is a backup SS!

  1498. guest123 Says:

    I’d much rather roll with one of our UDFA safeties at backup FS to Huff than waste a scholarship urp! roster spot on MM34.

    MM34 = outta the league soon.

  1499. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Missile Mike shut down Antonio Gates before, didn’t he?

    several Raider fans suggest Branch is worth $7-8 mil per season because he “shut down” Gronk when we played the Pats last season

    so what is Mitch worth? $3-4 mil per season?

    LOL!!

  1500. Raider O Says:

    Or the hate for our best safety, Branch.

  1501. hwnrdr Says:

    Guys, I’m willing to give everyone a pass this year, well, I guess through pre-season. If Big Mac and DA feel the need to cut wasted roster spaces (which is their job, right?), then we will roll with what we got! No one is safe, I believe!

  1502. Raider O Says:

    Gio is our backup FS.

  1503. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I’d rather keep Curtis Taylor or re-sign Hiram Eugene (special teams beast) as the 4th safety than pay Tyvon Branch like SD’s Weddle or TEN’s Griffith !!

    TB gets burned more than half the time.

    free Toast Branch!

  1504. J Hill Says:

    So should we ignore guys with a high burn rate, JFB?

    Branch and his 56% burn rate is terrible mayne.

    And for Mitchell, shame on whoever put him as a backen S. He needs to be a traditional SS! Not a hybrid LB, no a Cover 2 S.

  1505. Marks hair Says:

    Its not MMs fault he got drafted 3 rds early and has been kept on scholarship by a crazy old man..

  1506. Kirk Says:

    It is hard to access the Raiders defense until we see them coached in a modern scheme instead of the horse and buggy one employed by Al.

  1507. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Branch and his 56% burn rate is terrible mayne.

    ********************

    I don’t disagree.

    I am on the fence with Branch, he makes plays in the box, and is a solid tackler, but he gets beat over the top waaaaaaay too much for my liking.

    And the celebatory dances and what-not, I can certainly do without.

  1508. guest123 Says:

    Hiram Eugene is another of Al’s guys that needs to put up or shut up. I think it’ll be hard for him to make the club.

  1509. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Hiram was a beast special teamer.

    Him and Hagan were our best gunners we have had in years.

  1510. Raider O Says:

    Huff had a 55% burn rate, but You People think he is the best S on the roster?
    Weird!

  1511. hwnrdr Says:

    guest123 Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 8:05 am
    Hiram Eugene is another of Al’s guys that needs to put up or shut up. I think it’ll be hard for him to make the club.

    I thought he got let go? Did he re-sign?

  1512. RaiderRockstar Says:

    for Mitchell, shame on whoever put him as a backen S. He needs to be a traditional SS! Not a hybrid LB, no a Cover 2 S

    ***

    exactly, Jhill!

    MM34 wouldnt be any worse than Branch given the same opportunity. beastly run stuffer & sure tackler. questionable cover skills.

    Branch would have the advantage as a special teamer though. Perhaps another advantage in durability. Mitch is always “nicked”

  1513. Raider O Says:

    Why is Branch overrated and can’t cover, but Huff who has the same burn rate is great in coverage and he is our best safety?
    You People ……

  1514. guest123 Says:

    I thought he got let go? Did he re-sign?

    ******

    you are right Hwnrdr, I thought he was still on the team recovering from injury.

  1515. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Sam Williams was another ST stud.

    Bruce Davis II & Isaiah Ekejiuba were solid.

    wouldn’t mind guys like this as the 52nd & 53rd guys on the roster for dirt cheap.

    just dont give’em reps on Defense!

    wait, who is the starting MLB again?

    nevermind … we wouldn’t notice a difference :P

  1516. Just Fire Baby Says:

    MM34 is not as good and physical as some people think.

    He runs around a lot of blockers, a total wimp out I quit move, IMO.

    In that KC game on the McCluster screen, he had a chance to make a play, but just ran himself out of the play to avoid any contact with a lineman, and was the main reason McCluster was able to go 0 to 60 so quickly and get down the field.

    Did pretty much the same thing the following week on the kickoff return TD against SD.

    Our season was on the line, and the “Missile” was not willing to lay his body on the line.

    Where is Turd Sands at when you really need him to slap a teammate around???

  1517. TxRaider210 Says:

    Raider O Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 8:10 am
    Why is Branch overrated and can’t cover, but Huff who has the same burn rate is great in coverage and he is our best safety?
    You People ……

    ———————-
    I’d keep Branch anyday over Huff, unless Huff learns how to tackle. Don’t think Branch is great, but is solid and could maybe pull 5-6 mil/yr imo.

  1518. Raider O Says:

    Eugene was released.

  1519. guest123 Says:

    Kirk Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 8:02 am
    It is hard to access the Raiders defense until we see them coached in a modern scheme instead of the horse and buggy one employed by Al.

    **********

    I agree with this. It’s better to take the wait and see approach to this new defense. At least wait till we can see a few games in preseason before we throw the baby out with the bathwater!

  1520. Raider O Says:

    TxRaider210 Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 8:14 am
    Raider O Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 8:10 am
    Why is Branch overrated and can’t cover, but Huff who has the same burn rate is great in coverage and he is our best safety?
    You People ……

    ———————-
    I’d keep Branch anyday over Huff, unless Huff learns how to tackle. Don’t think Branch is great, but is solid and could maybe pull 5-6 mil/yr imo.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Exactly!

  1521. TxRaider210 Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 8:14 am
    MM34 is not as good and physical as some people think.

    He runs around a lot of blockers, a total wimp out I quit move, IMO.

    In that KC game on the McCluster screen, he had a chance to make a play, but just ran himself out of the play to avoid any contact with a lineman, and was the main reason McCluster was able to go 0 to 60 so quickly and get down the field.

    Did pretty much the same thing the following week on the kickoff return TD against SD.

    Our season was on the line, and the “Missile” was not willing to lay his body on the line.

    Where is Turd Sands at when you really need him to slap a teammate around???

    —————–
    Agreed bro…missles are all good, but tend to miss their desired targets a lot.lol

  1522. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I thought he was still on the team recovering from injury

    ***

    @G123

    nah, Hiram Eugene is someplace enjoying that loot from grandpa Davis!

    Raiders released/failed physical S Hiram Eugene.

    Eugene, 31, was due a $2.25 million base salary. The Raiders are slashing costs, and Eugene still wasn’t fully recovered after missing all of last season with a dislocated hip. Eugene is primarily a special teamer, so he’d been vastly overpaid by the old Oakland regime

    March 9, 2012 (roto)

  1523. TxRaider210 Says:

    Raider O Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 8:16 am
    TxRaider210 Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 8:14 am
    Raider O Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 8:10 am
    Why is Branch overrated and can’t cover, but Huff who has the same burn rate is great in coverage and he is our best safety?
    You People ……

    ———————-
    I’d keep Branch anyday over Huff, unless Huff learns how to tackle. Don’t think Branch is great, but is solid and could maybe pull 5-6 mil/yr imo.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Exactly!

    —————
    Either way, I think we see improvement in many players if RM and DA play to their strengths and don’t ask them for miracles.

  1524. RaiderRockstar Says:

    missles are all good, but tend to miss their desired targets a lot

    ***

    Raider O knows a lot about missles, according to BSJ & Dakota!

    MM34 can blow up RB’s & TE’s

  1525. Marks hair Says:

    I see the entire secondary as a weak spot..

  1526. J Hill Says:

    O,

    At some point, you have to go with the eye test. Branch was in a lot of man to man. Huff was a single deep S.

    How do you really compare the 2?

    Branch is a SS. Huff is a FS.

    Let’s see what they do playing their natural positions.

  1527. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I do think MM34 is a very good blitzer, and can be successful in moving the QB’s feet around in the pocket.

    Just don’t ask him to ACTUALLY sack him, because he tends to just fly past him.

    But that is OK sometimes, disrupt the timing, force the QB to move around, and let someone up front clean it up.

    I don’t want MM34 cut, I just don’t think he is much more than a specialist type guy.

    He is like a Steve Novack. Give him one thing to do, and he may do it well. Just don’t ask or expect him to be a solid all-around player.

  1528. RaiderRockstar Says:

    if Branch gets abused at training camp like he did OTA’s , the staff is gonna give MM34 a chance to start.

    hope his knee is 100% by then!

  1529. guest123 Says:

    As missles go, MM34 rates as a SCUD with no heat sinking or smart technology. Easily evaded.

  1530. TxRaider210 Says:

    Marks hair Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 8:19 am
    I see the entire secondary as a weak spot..

    ——————
    I’d say secondary is a question mark, but do think Bartell will hold his own along with Branch, in this new scheme.imo

  1531. Just Fire Baby Says:

    At some point, you have to go with the eye test.

    ***************

    Agreed, and I tend to put a lot of emphasis on the INITIAL, FIRST-IMPRESSION eye test.

    Gives you a non-biased viewpoint on a player when you don’t know anything about him.

    Needless to say, DVD failed this test last year with me,lol.

  1532. KoolKell Says:

    CJ Legend 34 Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 7:28 am

    Man this is painful to read. The Top 10 Raiders who got away. Al was one of the greats but man his later years were sad.

    I think we will be adding Sterling Moore to this list in two more years. They also forgot Warren Sapp -SIKE!!!!

    http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2012/7/6/3140640/top-10-players-the-oakland-raiders-let-get-away#storyjump
    ———————————–
    Interesting read. I hated to see Rod Coleman and Grady Jackson go.

  1533. Marks hair Says:

    Between or secondary and our skinny tall Dts I dont know if tarvers D sceme will be enough to save them..

  1534. Raider O Says:

    J,

    I agree. According to the eye test, I think Huff is overrated.

  1535. RaiderRockstar Says:

    @JFB

    MM34 shows up during blowouts, when the chips are down and everybody else has packed it in

    who got the only sack on Tom Brady last year?

    who forced the only turnover from Aaron Rodgers?

    your boy Derrick Gibson!!

    i mean, Mitchell :P

  1536. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    Routt had a lousy year. Way too many penalties and TD’s allowed.

    He didn’t come close to earning the big bucks he got paid.

    Still, you get the feeling that if he ever puts it all together, he’ll be a real force.

    Definitely the most physical CB the Raids had. Tremendous size and speed. Routt is one of the few guys I saw line up against Megatron that didn’t appear to be completely physically overmatched.

    There was a 2 hand chuck to the chest at the LOS in Houston that Routt got flagged for (erroneously) that was absolutely devastating.

    His pick against KC might have been the best defensive play any of our corners made all of last year.

    KC seems to have a nose for good secondary talent.

    Have seen lots of talk in here about looking forward to burning Routt as if it’s a done deal.

    I’m not so sure that’s going to happen and think that Flowers and Routt are going to be a heckuva tandem and that KC has the best secondary in the division.

  1537. Just Fire Baby Says:

    The timing of the blitz is so important, and both Rolando McClain and M34 seem to be pretty instinctual with it.

    As opposed to STan Routt, who will be setup to blitz and have his head turned at the snap, and his blitz starts at the snap with him flat-footed and pretty much a non-factor.

    He did this often. And Gio would come in on a blitz from 35 yards away, lol.

    Instinctual stuff you can’t teach.

  1538. Seymour Bush Says:

    It’s kind of hard to fault the secondary completely when our dline clearly wore out later in the season. Philly goes with an 8 man rotation to keep guys fresh. We had what, 5 or 6? Guys like Moss and Seymour got pretty worn out.

  1539. Raider O Says:

    Podunker,

    Why would I know a lot about missiles?
    I studied finance, and I have sales exp.

  1540. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    MM on the team does not make you or break you. I wish they would have cut him last year and signed Sterling Moore. I am still pissed we let that guy go!!!

    You find positions for good football players! Thank God there are no more Al Davis scholarships anymore.

  1541. Just Fire Baby Says:

    who forced the only turnover from Aaron Rodgers?

    *****************

    Who sacked him for a safety?

    (And didn’t celebrate it much or tweet about like your boy Missile?

  1542. Seymour Bush Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 8:24 am

    @JFB

    MM34 shows up during blowouts,
    ======================================

    He sure does. In fact most of his missed and blown assignments resulted in games getting out of hand in the lst place…..

  1543. J Hill Says:

    Needless to say, DVD failed this test last year with me,lol.

    ———————————————————–

    I think it’s amazing that you put so much emphasis on Fitz making that SPECTACULAR catch on the rookies FIRST play, but completely discount the very next play where he play everything perfectly.

  1544. guest123 Says:

    CJ Legend 34 Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 8:27 am
    MM on the team does not make you or break you. I wish they would have cut him last year and signed Sterling Moore. I am still pissed we let that guy go!!!

    You find positions for good football players! Thank God there are no more Al Davis scholarships anymore.

    ******

    I was pissed off at the letting go of Sterling Moore too. Good teams find ways of keeping good football players when they stumble upon them. If only RM had come along a year earlier, maybe we would still have Moore.

  1545. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I think it’s amazing that you put so much emphasis on Fitz making that SPECTACULAR catch on the rookies FIRST play, but completely discount the very next play where he play everything perfectly.

    *************************

    1 for 2 for 50 yards is not good for a DB.

    He played everything perfectly pre-toss on both plays, and I am sure if Kolb would have thrown it in the right area code for Fitz, he would have probably schooled him again on the second play.

  1546. RaiderRockstar Says:

    MM on the team does not make you or break you. I wish they would have cut him last year and signed Sterling Moore

    ***

    @CJL

    that was never a competition. Stevie Brown is the guy that almost cost Mitchell his job, if the coaching staff had any power back then

    Sterling Moore lost out to Joe Porter as the 5th CB behind Routt, CJ37, DVD & Chekwa

    then we had a chance to re-sign him later, but opted to go with track star Ron Parker

    then Hue Jax loved him some Sheppard, McCann & Ndukwe. then cut & resigned Jerome Boyd

  1547. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    I hear you and I am not a bg Routt fan at all, but at times he did show some good skills. My issue was giving him that contract in the first place and not signing Nnamdi. If you were going to over pay Routt who has been burned from his rookie season to the present why over pay him for one good season?

    That is where not having consistant leadership hurts the Raider’s franchise. From year to year managment is calling a C Player and A player. And A-B Player C talent that other teams swoop up. I am glad we brought in a guy like Reggie who has a proven track record of evaluating talent.
    ———————-
    RAIDERMAN99 Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 8:24 am
    Routt had a lousy year. Way too many penalties and TD’s allowed.

    He didn’t come close to earning the big bucks he got paid.

    Still, you get the feeling that if he ever puts it all together, he’ll be a real force.

    Definitely the most physical CB the Raids had. Tremendous size and speed. Routt is one of the few guys I saw line up against Megatron that didn’t appear to be completely physically overmatched.

    There was a 2 hand chuck to the chest at the LOS in Houston that Routt got flagged for (erroneously) that was absolutely devastating.

    His pick against KC might have been the best defensive play any of our corners made all of last year.

    KC seems to have a nose for good secondary talent.

    Have seen lots of talk in here about looking forward to burning Routt as if it’s a done deal.

    I’m not so sure that’s going to happen and think that Flowers and Routt are going to be a heckuva tandem and that KC has the best secondary in the division

  1548. J Hill Says:

    Agreed, 99.

    Routt’s contract was out of whack, but he would certainly be the best corner on our roster today.

    Had a bad last 4 weeks penalty wise. Half of those calls were COMPLETE BS!

  1549. Marks hair Says:

    Who got a sack? A fumble?….. Sad measuring sticks for this shltty D..

  1550. guest123 Says:

    Without rooting against any current Raider on the roster, I hope that players who don’t exhibit field instincts are let go this training camp. If that is a high draft pick or a surprise name, so be it. We got no room for project players that have potential. I’d prefer a group of players with lesser physical measurables and finely tuned sixth sense of knowing where the ball and the player is and ability to make plays.

  1551. KoolKell Says:

    It’s just that WR’s would catch balls with Routt draped all over them. No Ball skills.

  1552. J Hill Says:

    He played everything perfectly pre-toss on both plays

    ———————————————————-

    Not bad for a rookie mid round draft pick going against the best WR in the league, wouldn’t you say?

    Your expectation was really for him to come out on his first 2 NFL plays and kick Fitz’s arsse?

    WOW!

  1553. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    RR now all of that just made it worse. How you get rid of a ball player with talent for a stat like best 40 time is beyond me.

    ———————
    1546.RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 8:32 am
    MM on the team does not make you or break you. I wish they would have cut him last year and signed Sterling Moore

    ***

    @CJL

    that was never a competition. Stevie Brown is the guy that almost cost Mitchell his job, if the coaching staff had any power back then

    Sterling Moore lost out to Joe Porter as the 5th CB behind Routt, CJ37, DVD & Chekwa

    then we had a chance to re-sign him later, but opted to go with track star Ron Parker

    then Hue Jax loved him some Sheppard, McCann & Ndukwe. then cut & resigned Jerome Boyd

  1554. Marks hair Says:

    1550. Agreed track stars need not apply..

  1555. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Your expectation was really for him to come out on his first 2 NFL plays and kick Fitz’s arsse?

    ****************

    Fitz ran a half-assed sideline pattern, and just beasted him for the ball.

    It would be different if they gave him like a double-move or something, than I would be more lienant.

    Again, just the eye test. He was clueless with the ball in the air.

  1556. guest123 Says:

    It’s just that WR’s would catch balls with Routt draped all over them. No Ball skills.

    ********

    I disagree. I’ve seen him perfectly play off his man and swat the ball away just in time many times. It’s just when he’s beat and he knows it, he does the stupid arm or jersey pull and gets the flag. That’s got nothing to do with ball skills, it has more to do with his ability to shadow physical recievers who get away with contact that the refs allow WR’s these days.

  1557. Dakota Says:

    Jhill,

    If Jim Buss pulls off the Bynum for Howard trade, and manages to keep Gasol then I will have to admit he is an evil genius.

  1558. Raider O Says:

    Not bad for a rookie mid round draft pick going against the best WR in the league, wouldn’t you say?

    Your expectation was really for him to come out on his first 2 NFL plays and kick Fitz’s arsse?
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
    -not bad at all.
    -Firz makes good PB CBs look bad, and we are complaining about a rookie?

  1559. RaiderRockstar Says:

    How you get rid of a ball player with talent for a stat like best 40 time is beyond me

    ***

    @CJL

    according to Al Davis, you could teach a man to play football, but you couldn’t teach him to run faster than a cheetah

    Routt was a project just like Van Dyke when we drafted him. a track star with “potential” but little football ability

    thats why Stan Routt is finally coming on. it took him 6 or 7 years in the NFL to finally develop, like Brandon Lloyd, Rich Gannon & CJ37

  1560. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I liked Routt’s moxi and thought he really competed at times, when a lot of guys on this team were too willing to lay down.

    But with that said, you can’t get paid big-boy money, and pull off an epic choke job down the stretch of the season with the playoffs in sight.

    He was downright awful the last month.

  1561. Seymour Bush Says:

    The issue with Routt is he would melt down late in games. Opponents would target him and he would not raise his game up. That was the issue with Routt. He would have a really good game til the end and then single handedly give up the game tying and game winning drives.

  1562. hwnrdr Says:

    LOL, he’s just EVIL!

  1563. Raider O Says:

    I hope you people are not going to start talking about the Fakers now. We are having a good chat.

  1564. guest123 Says:

    It wasn’t that DVD got beat on one out of two throws his direction. It was the way he got burnt. He kept perfect coverage man for man, and Kolb throw it in the narrow window anyway. Fitz made a super play, but he’s a superstar so for him that’s like a avg play. But it was embarrasing, because for all DVD shadowed Fitz, he was a harmless as a shadow to him. Completely schooled and helpless, and it began a pattern of plays where he’d shadow stride for stride and only turn his head after the ball was passed his head.

  1565. RaiderRockstar Says:

    track stars need not apply

    ***

    we’re gonna have some projects on the 53 man roster. You can bet on that! half the 53 man roster might be considered “unproven” when it’s all said & done.

    any of these late rounders or undrafted kids will make the team based on what? potential.

    Guys that finished last year as backups for other teams or finished the season on IR. holdovers from the Al Davis regime. BigMac didnt have the funds to shed every overpaid underacheiver this offseason, ya know?

  1566. Method To My Madness Says:

    YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH First Friday in Oakland…downtown…swing by Oaklandish off Broadway….check check check it ouuuuuutttttt!….Huah!

  1567. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Post #1564

    I couldn’t have said it better myself.

    If a guy swings at a curveball that bounces in front of the plate, and missed by 3 feet, it isn’t just a strike, it is a pretty good sign he can’t hit a curveball.

  1568. Dakota Says:

    Routt = huge liability
    Branch = overrated

    I can’t wait for Reggie to get some picks and cap space to re-make the secondary.

  1569. guest123 Says:

    Oaklandish off Broadway

    *******

    chinatown?

  1570. J Hill Says:

    Using that trade exception to get Nash didn’t back you up off of him?

    He’s offered Bynum for Howard already.

  1571. Method To My Madness Says:

    The Issue with Routt really is…he no longer is in Oakland but is now a Bleeding Chef….let’s see Criner and Moore put in work on him this season

  1572. Method To My Madness Says:

    1569.guest123 Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 8:51 am
    Oaklandish off Broadway

    *******

    chinatown?

    **********

    Naw bruh…I mean Chinatown aint nada but hop skip and a jump away…so is Uptown

    But its off broadway in between like 14th and 15th….its gonna be cool at Oaklandish but that aint gonna be the only place people are at….all the way up Telegraph…ppl prolly still partying from the 4th so tonight shouldnt be bad….dammit just think if the A’s had a stadium downtown….super smackin!

  1573. guest123 Says:

    Reggie won’t come out and say it, but I bet his expectations on what is a successful 2012 season are a lot different than ours. He’s building the team over in his image, eventually wiping out the old regime of Al Davis.

    Knowing he’s got job security, come hell or high water, he’s not stressing. He’s enjoying the opportunity of the challenge to figure out how to finagle a playoff team with an arm and a leg tied behind his back. I bet it’s probably the most fun he’ll have in years, especially when expectations rise.

  1574. Method To My Madness Says:

    1559.RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 8:43 am
    How you get rid of a ball player with talent for a stat like best 40 time is beyond me

    ***

    @CJL

    according to Al Davis, you could teach a man to play football, but you couldn’t teach him to run faster than a cheetah

    Routt was a project just like Van Dyke when we drafted him. a track star with “potential” but little football ability

    thats why Stan Routt is finally coming on. it took him 6 or 7 years in the NFL to finally develop, like Brandon Lloyd, Rich Gannon & CJ37

    ************

    Routt actually put in work though…he started in 07 and did well better than Fabian Washington but then we signed DeAngelo Falls and then started CJ37 over him….Routt was cool but not worth 10 mil…he is outta here so he is the enemy

  1575. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Reports: 76ers to amnesty Elton Brand

    ***

    where is he going?

    Cavs?

  1576. J Hill Says:

    it began a pattern of plays where he’d shadow stride for stride and only turn his head after the ball was passed his head.

    ———————————————————–

    My only issue with this argument is ALL of our DBs were doing that.

    Kinda seemed like it was being taught to play the man and try and recognize when to turn around for the ball.

    Larry Fitzgerald “beasting” a ball from a rookie CB should not be held against him. The VERY NEXT PLAY he did EVERYTHING correctly against the same beastly WR.

    I guess we just disagree. I see HUGE potential with DVD. I think our coaches will help him get better technique wise to at least get passes knocked down.

  1577. guest123 Says:

    DMo17 and JFord12 are going to school Flowers/Routt

  1578. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Dwight Howard a Laker?

    http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/06/rumor-lakers-tell-one-player-he-may-be-traded-for-howard/

  1579. Method To My Madness Says:

    1573.guest123 Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 8:56 am
    Reggie won’t come out and say it, but I bet his expectations on what is a successful 2012 season are a lot different than ours. He’s building the team over in his image, eventually wiping out the old regime of Al Davis.

    Knowing he’s got job security, come hell or high water, he’s not stressing. He’s enjoying the opportunity of the challenge to figure out how to finagle a playoff team with an arm and a leg tied behind his back. I bet it’s probably the most fun he’ll have in years, especially when expectations rise.

    ************

    Hmmmm…..maybe

    But I think otherwise. I believe Reggie is inherited a squad that shoulda won the afc west the last two seasons…not like he took on a 3-13 franchise….the Raiders definitely werent the 2003-2009 version so he I believe he expects these guys to come out and be successful this year

    Knowing how he came from a top tier franchise in Green Bay, losing is not something he is gonna accept. 2012 is still an oppurtunity and I’m hoping he is aiming for the big prize. Al is gone but we are still the Raiders. Reggie Understands that Oakland needs a winner and no time like the present

  1580. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    Lots of griping about letting Sterling Moore go.

    I agree, it was a mistake. However, we should keep in mind that he was demoted to NE’s practice squad and no other team claimed him.

    Moore gets credited for knocking what should have been a game winning TD out of the Raven’s WR hands. Truth is, he was burned pretty good on that play and did NOT play well before that.

    My personal opinion is that Moore is a decent player, but is not a front line CB.

    I think if he sticks in the NFL, he is much better suited as a Safety. Appears to have good vision and instincts when facing the ball, but does not impress shadowing WR’s man to man.

  1581. Raider O Says:

    Branch is not going anywhere. Get over it haters! He is a top 5 SS.

  1582. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Larry Fitzgerald “beasting” a ball from a rookie CB should not be held against him.

    **********************

    Come on man, this is the NFL!!!

    What should we do, praise him for trying his best and give him a participation medal?

    Make a fkn play or take a hike!!!!

  1583. guest123 Says:

    Coaches can’t yell at the corner during the play to turn his head. They can’t tell him to count on some count in his head to think of turning his neck. There’s not a cheatsheet for knowing. The good ones just know. They sense the football coming. How they do that I don’t know. It’s just instinct. You are born with it or you are not. It can’t be taught. I don’t see DVD even with coaching ever learning that part of the game. I guess I’ll agree to disagree. I respect your opinion but again don’t agree.

  1584. J Hill Says:

    Reggie won’t come out and say it, but I bet his expectations on what is a successful 2012 season are a lot different than ours.

    ————————————————————–

    How are we not a better team than last year?

    Only thing that derailed a ridiculous run was injury.

    We have a better QB, better WR crew, upgraded D coaches.

    SD lost there best WR and Tolbert.

    How are we not the favorites with a healthy McFadden leading the attack?

  1585. guest123 Says:

    Branch is not going anywhere. Get over it haters! He is a top 5 SS.

    ********

    ya hear!

  1586. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Make a fkn play or take a hike!!!!

    ***

    JFB wants playmakers in the secondary?

    then why the heck would we pay Branch $7-8 mil per season?

    100 tackles = beast?

    trade Lou Murphy to Cincy for Gibril Wilson!

  1587. Dakota Says:

    J Hill Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 8:51 am
    Using that trade exception to get Nash didn’t back you up off of him?

    He’s offered Bynum for Howard already.

    +++++++++++

    4 draft picks for a 38 year old pg who plays no defense and is just a stop gap?

    Not overly impressed.

    Land Dwight Howard and not dump Gasol to save money, then I will be impressed.

  1588. RaiderRockstar Says:

    In 2008, Wilson signed a six-year, $39 million contract with the Oakland Raiders, making him one of the highest paid safeties in NFL history.

    Wilson was released by the Raiders after only one season with the team on February 20, 2009. He finished the season with 129 tackles, 1.5 sacks, and two interceptions.

    -WIKI

  1589. guest123 Says:

    I’m just saying that in the grand scheme of things, RM has big or bigger plans in the pipeline for our Raiders. He’s not had the benefit of a clean salary cap or high draft picks to really flex his GM muscles.

    Sorry, not trying to paint a doom and gloom short term outlook.

  1590. Raider O Says:

    I don’t like the Fakers, but I do respect their fans. They are not bandwagon fans like heat, Pats, and chargers fans.

  1591. J Hill Says:

    Make a fkn play or take a hike!!!!

    ————————————————————

    Made a play the very next time he got challenged, right?

  1592. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I think the goal for this year was to get the financial house in order first and foremost.

    If that means going 7-9 the first year, so be it.

    If the division can be won with 8 or 9 wins again, we should be right in the mix.

    If it will take 11 or 12 wins, I don’t think we have the horses yet to run iwth that.

  1593. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Made a play the very next time he got challenged, right?

    *********************

    He didn’t make a play, Kolb put on his best Soup impersonation and heaved the ball to far and not even in the same area code as where his WR was.

  1594. Method To My Madness Says:

    1590.Raider O Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 9:09 am
    I don’t like the Fakers, but I do respect their fans. They are not bandwagon fans like heat, Pats, and chargers fans.

    *********

    What?

    You must be high

    The three biggest bandwagons go in order like this

    1 Yankees
    2 Lakers
    3. 49ers

  1595. J Hill Says:

    4 draft picks for a 38 year old pg who plays no defense and is just a stop gap?

    Not overly impressed.

    ————————————————————

    You’re still mad at him for leading the Suns back from that 3-1 defecit, huh?

    Or is it that Raja smack he was running?

    Bottom line is you said we wouldn’t use the trade exception, and we did.

    You were right about us not bringing Sessions back though.

  1596. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I don’t like the Fakers, but I do respect their fans. They are not bandwagon fans

    ***

    @Kentucky

    how the heck would you know?

    how long has it been since the Lakers had a dry spell (no playoffs for multiple years) ??

    it’s easy to root for the Lakers.
    I hate them, but they are winners.
    LA brass does a fine job year in & year out

  1597. hwnrdr Says:

    That is why I cannot wait until August 13th! We get to see what we can probably run with!

  1598. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I would vote the Red Sox in that list as well.

    Old school Sox fans would have punched these yuppies singing Sweet Caroline squarely in the face!!!!

  1599. SR Raider Says:

    JFB – that’s exactly what this year is about. New GM, HC, OC, DC. They need to figure out who fits in the system as well as suck up lost draft picks and purge poor contracts. Expectations are right at 8-8.

    On the other hand, it’s summer and the cool-aid is delicious. 10-6 and AFC West winners is doable.

  1600. J Hill Says:

    He didn’t make a play, Kolb put on his best Soup impersonation and heaved the ball to far and not even in the same area code as where his WR was.

    ———————————————————–

    Maybe because the WR was covered and there was nowhere for him to throw the ball?

  1601. Method To My Madness Says:

    1592.Just Fire Baby Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 9:11 am
    I think the goal for this year was to get the financial house in order first and foremost.

    If that means going 7-9 the first year, so be it.

    If the division can be won with 8 or 9 wins again, we should be right in the mix.

    If it will take 11 or 12 wins, I don’t think we have the horses yet to run iwth that.

    *******

    You just never know if that rookie LG is what we need…or if Barksdale or Wang man the RT spot

    What if Ivey and the rookie DT play big or if Shaughnessy stays healthy?

    How bout Dmac getting in 14 games this year and being helathy in january?

    How bout Criner being that poss WR we havent had since tim Brown?

    Stranger schit has happened before…I have my own thoughts of what this season will be like

    Who knows we may have horses to play with those other teams that are seen as elite

  1602. RaiderRockstar Says:

    @Raider O

    if the Lakers went through what the Raiders just did, 9 years of pathetic management, coaching & play … you can bet your life savings some of their fans would root for the next closest winning team in Cali

    Clippers, Warriors or Kings (laughing as I type this)

  1603. hwnrdr Says:

    I don’t get how Laker fans are the 2nd biggest bandwagoners when most of them live in LA! And above the biggest bandwagon family in the world?

  1604. Method To My Madness Says:

    Lakers can get howard and what will that do? Still cant beat OKC

    KOBE IS YOUR FKIN PROBLEM….HE CANT TAKE BEING NOT NUMBER 1 NOT EVEN FOR A SECOND BECAUSE HE SEES DURANT AND LEBRON AS THREATS TO HIM…HE ALSO HATES THE FACT HE AINT THE ONLY STAR IN LA

  1605. Davy Jones Says:

    Ben Davidson dies and four days later, still no post? Not even a cut and paste of someone else’s article.

    Raider Legend!!!! Lazy Bloggers!!!! For shame.

  1606. Method To My Madness Says:

    1603.hwnrdr Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 9:16 am
    I don’t get how Laker fans are the 2nd biggest bandwagoners when most of them live in LA! And above the biggest bandwagon family in the world?

    **********

    lol…go outside of cali and see how many people are laker fans in a market with another team that they were born and raised in….you from Hawaii so you being a Laker fan isnt bandwagon at all cuz that is close proximity to ya

  1607. Method To My Madness Says:

    LA brass does a fine job year in & year out

    *****************

    For last 50 years they damn sure have no doubt

  1608. Raider O Says:

    B,

    1- Yankees
    2- Cowboys
    3- Heat

    Used to be:
    1- Yankees
    2- Cowboys
    3- 49ers

  1609. hwnrdr Says:

    That is true, B! I can’t see when people were born and raised in the Bay, likes Raiders, Niners, A’s, Giants and are Laker fans or anything else! Although, I do know some…lol

  1610. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    Make a fkn play or take a hike!!!!
    =====================================
    You listening, Slowlando ??

    There’s baseball players that WHIFF less frequently than McLame !

  1611. hwnrdr Says:

    Davy Jones Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 9:19 am
    Ben Davidson dies and four days later, still no post? Not even a cut and paste of someone else’s article.

    Raider Legend!!!! Lazy Bloggers!!!! For shame.

    Agreed…what the heck, right?

  1612. guest123 Says:

    If it will take 11 or 12 wins, I don’t think we have the horses yet to run iwth that.

    ********

    agreed

  1613. Method To My Madness Says:

    1605.Davy Jones Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 9:19 am
    Ben Davidson dies and four days later, still no post? Not even a cut and paste of someone else’s article.

    Raider Legend!!!! Lazy Bloggers!!!! For shame.

    ******

    Someone did already…Steve and Fairy Mac need to be on their job

  1614. Method To My Madness Says:

    1608.Raider O Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 9:23 am
    B,

    1- Yankees
    2- Cowboys
    3- Heat

    Used to be:
    1- Yankees
    2- Cowboys
    3- 49ers

    *************

    Is that a shot at my dude RRS? lol

  1615. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Maybe because the WR was covered and there was nowhere for him to throw the ball?

    **********************

    It’s Larry Fitz, you throw it up and let him make a play on the ball.

    Kolb sucks, and threw the ball away in a preseason game, which is completely pointless.

  1616. RaiderRockstar Says:

    @ROG

    Kobe Bryant has a no-trade clause in his contract. Lakers brass screwed themselves with that one. They have the choice to cut a legend, past his prime and get nothing in return … or let him play out his contract and try to build around him for 1 last hurrah before he hits “worthless” status

    I think they are doing the right thing. Lakers fans dont care about the future. they want to win now. thats why they are happy about getting Nash, even though it cost them 4 high draft picks. When KB’s contract is up, he’ll go elsewhere for a year or two and fall flat on his face. then the Lakers can start trying to build a bully again, instead of trying to buy one.

  1617. Raider O Says:

    LOL B.

  1618. Method To My Madness Says:

    1609.hwnrdr Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 9:24 am
    That is true, B! I can’t see when people were born and raised in the Bay, likes Raiders, Niners, A’s, Giants and are Laker fans or anything else! Although, I do know some…lol

    ******

    I know some cats who dont fk with Warriors cuz we havent won hella titles…you got some who like the Lakers….I just shake my head but they say at least its a Cali squad which I hear cuz I know Cali is the best in sports IMO

  1619. guest123 Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 9:15 am
    I would vote the Red Sox in that list as well.

    Old school Sox fans would have punched these yuppies singing Sweet Caroline squarely in the face!!!!

    ********

    What old school Sux fans are you referring to? Jim Rice era of the 70’s? Yeah, they used to draw 7000 fans back in the era they sucked. They were as pathetic as Cubs fans complaining about curses and whatnot. All of Red Sux fanbase are bandwagon since 2004.

  1620. Just Fire Baby Says:

    B,

    Crazy things could happen no doubt, and I have more expectations this year than most years past.

    Got to start 2-0 to have a chacne though, IMO. Need that division home win to start, and then the tough East Coast road win the following week.

    Do that, and EVERYTHING is still on the table.

  1621. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Guest,

    I just know Sox fans were a wild bunch that didn’t seem to be the DRew Barrymore singing a Neil Diamond song type of bunch.

    Ryan Russillo always talks about it, how corporate and fake this new Red Sox “Nation” is.

  1622. J Hill Says:

    even though it cost them 4 high draft picks.

    ———————————————————–

    Pick 26 or lower is not considered a high draft pick mayne.

  1623. Method To My Madness Says:

    1619.guest123 Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 9:28 am
    Just Fire Baby Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 9:15 am
    I would vote the Red Sox in that list as well.

    Old school Sox fans would have punched these yuppies singing Sweet Caroline squarely in the face!!!!

    ********

    What old school Sux fans are you referring to? Jim Rice era of the 70’s? Yeah, they used to draw 7000 fans back in the era they sucked. They were as pathetic as Cubs fans complaining about curses and whatnot. All of Red Sux fanbase are bandwagon since 2004.

    *********

    I’m sorry cant agree wit ya here…Dead Sux have always had a big following becuz that area is hella old and many east coast ppl transplanted in other places. I’m sure there have been some down years as with every franchise but boston games at home or road generally bring big crowds

    But I do agree about the wagon since 04….but whenever someone wins a title those ppl come along

  1624. guest123 Says:

    Ryan Russillo always talks about it, how corporate and fake this new Red Sox “Nation” is.

    *********

    Russillo is right. They somehow adopt the “Nation” moniker is pretentious and phony and I still don’t see them as a “Nation”. Red Sux fans I know are phony, flag waving bandwagoners/blowhards who turn on their team if they go into a losing streak. They suck and their team sucks too. They are Yankee wannabees with no such thing as the proud history they like to think they have. They ain’t fooling anyone.

  1625. RaiderRockstar Says:

    @JFB

    do you think Anthony Smith should get the same excuse as Junior Seau?

    Poor Tony! subjected to this brutal game called football where he took multiple hits to the head in 7 years as a pro. All the pressure of being the 11th overall draft pick married to a pop star named Vanity. He lost his mind like Barret Robbins and nobody offered to help him. Blame the NFL. Blame the coaches & trainers for pushing him too hard. He gave his life to this sport and it caused him to take the lives of a few others.

    Sound good?

  1626. Raider O Says:

    Stop calling other fans a Nation. I’m so sick of that crap. Gator nation, This nation, that nation, etc…
    I’m not talking about you Chico, I’m talking about other fans and the media.

  1627. Method To My Madness Says:

    1620.Just Fire Baby Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 9:28 am
    B,

    Crazy things could happen no doubt, and I have more expectations this year than most years past.

    Got to start 2-0 to have a chacne though, IMO. Need that division home win to start, and then the tough East Coast road win the following week.

    Do that, and EVERYTHING is still on the table.

    ************

    Well i know we all naturally look ahead but those first two games are what I am looking at….remember last year we had a MNF game in denver then on a short week travel to the east coast for a 10am game

    Again the NFL fks us but at least we get Chargers at home but then have to fly all the way to Miami when its gonna be 95 degrees while we wear black jerseys? Bullschit

    But if we do go 2-0 it bodes well and sets us up for a big time matchup at home vs the Rapist….i cant wait til i get to meet him…he wont like what I have to say

  1628. guest123 Says:

    Anyway, sorry for spouting on the Red Sux and Yanks. Ask me how I really feel, eh? lol

  1629. theghostronin79 Says:

    Who knows we may have horses to play with those other teams that are seen as elite

    ==========

    I think that’s what’s killed me the most. I’ve seen “Glimpses” of what this team can be. Players shine like Gold at times. It’s usually at different times, and that’s the problem. They haven’t yet shined ALL together at the same time consistantly. WE GOT the horses. If they figure out how to GEL and get some cohesion -and health of course- I think we’ll witness something pretty spectacular. Mindset is everything. Hope the coaches can lead them well. It starts there.

  1630. guest123 Says:

    Raider O Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 9:36 am
    Stop calling other fans a Nation. I’m so sick of that crap. Gator nation, This nation, that nation, etc…
    I’m not talking about you Chico, I’m talking about other fans and the media.

    **********

    Only one nation.

  1631. Method To My Madness Says:

    1628.guest123 Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 9:38 am
    Anyway, sorry for spouting on the Red Sux and Yanks. Ask me how I really feel, eh? lol

    ***********

    Yankee fans are the worse…thats the biggest bandwagon schit in history of mankind….how someone from California(Jason Giambi) can grow up a Yankees fan is baffling. I hate when I meet someone from Cali who is a Yankees fan

  1632. guest123 Says:

    @1625,

    You didn’t get the memo? Didn’t you hear that the new way is to blame everyone else for your actions and have somebody pay you for your miserable retirement. That’s called entitlement, and it’s part of the new era.

  1633. Method To My Madness Says:

    1629.theghostronin79 Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 9:39 am
    Who knows we may have horses to play with those other teams that are seen as elite

    ==========

    I think that’s what’s killed me the most. I’ve seen “Glimpses” of what this team can be. Players shine like Gold at times. It’s usually at different times, and that’s the problem. They haven’t yet shined ALL together at the same time consistantly. WE GOT the horses. If they figure out how to GEL and get some cohesion -and health of course- I think we’ll witness something pretty spectacular. Mindset is everything. Hope the coaches can lead them well. It starts there.

    *************

    Yea seriously we have seen them look like all world players then look like they couldnt beat the participants in a powder puff game

    Carson being a leader this offseason is a good thing…we gonna need it and some luck with health

  1634. RaiderRockstar Says:

    You didn’t get the memo? Didn’t you hear that the new way is to blame everyone else for your actions and have somebody pay you for your miserable retirement. That’s called entitlement, and it’s part of the new era

    ***

    @G123

    2012 Raiders will not be short any finger pointers with Branch & McClain in the fold!

  1635. guest123 Says:

    I hate when I meet someone from Cali who is a Yankees fan
    **********

    Me too. I’ve known Californians who have never been to NYC and are Yankee fans. I’m thinking why? What’s the appeal? I’ve been to NYC and the people there are actually very nice in comparison to the NYC natives that move to Florida. Still I hate the Yankees and all sports franchise in the Northeast.

  1636. Sullivan44 Says:

    I was driving through Oakland yesterday on the 880 and a dude was driving the wrong way. Got home and checked the news and it turns out he hit someone. Both were ok, thankfully.

  1637. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I hate when I meet someone from Cali who is a Yankees fan

    ***

    yeah I know a few guys from church who are Yankee fans in Podunk

    but most people around here root for the Cardinals or Royals

  1638. Sullivan44 Says:

    Rockstar can it be any more obvious you’ve never played a dangerous sport where you could get a concussion?

  1639. Method To My Madness Says:

    1636.Sullivan44 Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 9:45 am
    I was driving through Oakland yesterday on the 880 and a dude was driving the wrong way. Got home and checked the news and it turns out he hit someone. Both were ok, thankfully.

    *************

    Where we you coming from or going to?

  1640. Sullivan44 Says:

    Rockstar you’re the typical sports fan of today. Never played the game, expect the players to martyr themselves and take head injuries until they’re drooling and don’t even remember where they live. All so you have something to do on Sunday.

  1641. Raider O Says:

    Are you sure that wasn’t you MR? Remember what you did in SD?

  1642. Sullivan44 Says:

    Brien, San Leandro. Helped a friend move a bed and dresser.

  1643. Method To My Madness Says:

    1642.Sullivan44 Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 9:50 am
    Brien, San Leandro. Helped a friend move a bed and dresser.

    *******************

    Shoulda stopped by Jack London my friend so we can squash the beef like you cats do in the hip hop world

  1644. Dakota Says:

    1595.J Hill Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 9:13 am
    4 draft picks for a 38 year old pg who plays no defense and is just a stop gap?

    Not overly impressed.

    ————————————————————

    You’re still mad at him for leading the Suns back from that 3-1 defecit, huh?

    Or is it that Raja smack he was running?

    Bottom line is you said we wouldn’t use the trade exception, and we did.

    You were right about us not bringing Sessions back though.
    ++++++++++++++

    Not mad at Nash….just not psyched about getting a 38 year old PG. Would have been a great move 5 years ago.

    They may have used that trade exemption, but I am still waiting to see if they dump Gasol’s salary to make up for it.

    They need to use the mini-mle to improve the bench.

  1645. Raider O Says:

    You can get a concussion from playing soccer.

  1646. Sullivan44 Says:

    Raider 0, I’m glad you brought up San Diego.

    I was there again about a month ago, and I made extra sure to not misuse those lanes in Mission Beach. Low and behold, everyone freakin’ else was doing it. I was the only one not doing it. I have to say I’m a little vindicated. F@#$ that guy who got mad.

  1647. Sullivan44 Says:

    What do you mean, Brien?

  1648. Sullivan44 Says:

    It’s no wonder pro football players shun fans. Football fans expect the players to kill themselves for their entertainment, when they’ve never even played the sport.

  1649. RaiderRockstar Says:

    anybody seen JB, since he exposed this troll?

  1650. KoolKell Says:

    Guest123 Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 9:04 am

    Coaches can’t yell at the corner during the play to turn his head. They can’t tell him to count on some count in his head to think of turning his neck. There’s not a cheatsheet for knowing. The good ones just know. They sense the football coming. How they do that I don’t know. It’s just instinct. You are born with it or you are not. It can’t be taught. I don’t see DVD even with coaching ever learning that part of the game.
    —————————————
    No, I think it’s coaching, you have to watch the WR’s eyes.

  1651. Just Fire Baby Says:

    My mom is a Yankee fan, but she was born in Staten Island and lived there for about 11 years.

    My in-laws were born and raised in Brooklyn, and they hate the Yankee’s.

  1652. Raider O Says:

    LOL MR.

  1653. guest123 Says:

    No one is pointing a gun to the players head making them play this violent game. They can always take thier talents and college degrees and look for work like everybody else.

    Fortune and fame has a cost. It’s not for free and it comes with sacrifice.

  1654. Sullivan44 Says:

    I thought pass coverage was all about watching the belt buckle? See, I played. Of course, it was JV.

  1655. Just Fire Baby Says:

    do you think Anthony Smith should get the same excuse as Junior Seau?

    *********************

    Excuses are for the weak.

  1656. Sullivan44 Says:

    Notice that only people who are involved with something immoral use the rationale that the people they’re exploiting don’t have “a gun to their head”?

  1657. Raider O Says:

    There is a difference between creating excuses for a behavior and understanding the cause of the behavior.

  1658. Sullivan44 Says:

    All humans are weak, JFB. Go into a cage with a bear and see for yourself.

  1659. TxRaider210 Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 9:45 am
    I was driving through Oakland yesterday on the 880 and a dude was driving the wrong way. Got home and checked the news and it turns out he hit someone. Both were ok, thankfully.

    ———————-
    That schit happens on the regular here in SA…idk how people get so ripped that they get on the freeway going the wrong way. Unfortunately, it always seems to end badly for the people they hit around here.

  1660. Method To My Madness Says:

    1647.Sullivan44 Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 9:52 am
    What do you mean, Brien?

    ************

    LOL DJSulliFresh…..stop by Jack London catch a drink and squash the beef as you do with other DJ’s who may have dissed you…Chicken N waffles is bad nor is Kincaids

  1661. Method To My Madness Says:

    1658.Sullivan44 Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 10:01 am
    All humans are weak, JFB. Go into a cage with a bear and see for yourself.

    ************

    LMAO

  1662. guest123 Says:

    I think this generation has done enough to pusxxify the game. Please count me in the audience of those who think its gone to far and is eventually going to kill this game and render it brutality like cock-fighting or bullfighting. The game is meant to be brutal. It’s meant to be visious. If you don’t like it, go and play or watch bowling.

  1663. TxRaider210 Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 10:01 am
    All humans are weak, JFB. Go into a cage with a bear and see for yourself.

    ———————
    LMAO…nah bro I think bears are just bears

  1664. Method To My Madness Says:

    1659.TxRaider210 Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 10:02 am
    Sullivan44 Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 9:45 am
    I was driving through Oakland yesterday on the 880 and a dude was driving the wrong way. Got home and checked the news and it turns out he hit someone. Both were ok, thankfully.

    ———————-
    That schit happens on the regular here in SA…idk how people get so ripped that they get on the freeway going the wrong way. Unfortunately, it always seems to end badly for the people they hit around here.

    ******

    Yeah, no bueno

  1665. Sullivan44 Says:

    When you lose a child, you cry. The toughest of men would cry. Animals don’t cry. Not like that at least. They yip and holler when injured, but they don’t cry over the loss of close ones. We’re a weak, sensitive species, in comparison to other species on earth. We’re only superior in our ability to rationalize and choose our reactions to stimulus.

  1666. Method To My Madness Says:

    1662.guest123 Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 10:03 am
    I think this generation has done enough to pusxxify the game. Please count me in the audience of those who think its gone to far and is eventually going to kill this game and render it brutality like cock-fighting or bullfighting. The game is meant to be brutal. It’s meant to be visious. If you don’t like it, go and play or watch bowling.

    **********

    Exactly….its not like its unknown about football and i hate Roger Nazi Goodell for implementing the no cussing at stadium schit….we vicariously living through these players and coaches as it is and in a stadium full of people who are just escaping for a few hours you tell them they cant cuss? Especially after a schitty play or bad call? Someone needs ot snip and kill Roger now!

  1667. guest123 Says:

    I once took the 80 split off the 580 to San Rafael and there was an abandoned car dead center of the ramp on the blind curve and it was pitch dark. I came in rolling that 50 mph curve at 60 and barely missed that car. Stuff like that is common in Oakland. Better be prepared.

  1668. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I dont think anybody is surprised to hear that Sully stares at other mens belt buckles … pretty sure everybody doubts he ever played football though (on any level)

  1669. TxRaider210 Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 10:04 am
    When you lose a child, you cry. The toughest of men would cry. Animals don’t cry. Not like that at least. They yip and holler when injured, but they don’t cry over the loss of close ones. We’re a weak, sensitive species, in comparison to other species on earth. We’re only superior in our ability to rationalize and choose our reactions to stimulus.

    ——————————
    So was it wrong of me to give my cat away after failed attempts to teach her to ride a motorcycle?lol

  1670. Sullivan44 Says:

    I was wondering who was going to come up with the belt buckle joke first, and I had it between you and Brien. But they really do teach you that in football, Rockstar. Of course you wouldn’t know.

  1671. Method To My Madness Says:

    1665.Sullivan44 Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 10:04 am
    When you lose a child, you cry. The toughest of men would cry. Animals don’t cry. Not like that at least. They yip and holler when injured, but they don’t cry over the loss of close ones. We’re a weak, sensitive species, in comparison to other species on earth. We’re only superior in our ability to rationalize and choose our reactions to stimulus.

    ********

    So untrue….I got hella family members especially those old men from the South who dont shed tears at all

    And yes animals have cried when loved ones die….you just using a way to justify the fact that you are a toal coward btch…nice try but you cant fool us DjSulliFresh

  1672. Method To My Madness Says:

    1670.Sullivan44 Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 10:08 am
    I was wondering who was going to come up with the belt buckle joke first, and I had it between you and Brien. But they really do teach you that in football, Rockstar. Of course you wouldn’t know.

    ********

    Like in basketball playing defense you look at guys waist not the ball….you learn this before you are 10 lol

  1673. Sullivan44 Says:

    I remember our coach yelling at receivers for just standing at the line of scrimmage looking unmotivated before the snap on running plays. The receiver should act as if the ball’s coming to him, every play. They stand there with there looking bored before the snap, the defense knows it’s a run.

  1674. Just Fire Baby Says:

    All humans are weak, JFB.

    *********************

    I am sure you would say that those Raider fans who made more excuses for Al Davis than others were “weak”.

    Or actually, you will probably argue that for the sake of arguing, lol.

  1675. Sullivan44 Says:

    Brien, you belong to the most emotionally sensitive species on the planet. And believe it or not, you show it frequently.

  1676. guest123 Says:

    Staring at the other dudes crotch is good defense? I guess I’ve heard it all now. What exactly are you looking to happen?

  1677. Just Fire Baby Says:

    What about that Dallas WR in the ice bowl, that would tuck his hands into his pants on running plays?

    I think it was Bullet Hayes.

  1678. Method To My Madness Says:

    1673.Sullivan44 Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 10:11 am
    I remember our coach yelling at receivers for just standing at the line of scrimmage looking unmotivated before the snap on running plays. The receiver should act as if the ball’s coming to him, every play. They stand there with there looking bored before the snap, the defense knows it’s a run.

    *******************

    Yeah you knew that becuz you were watching the football team alot while being the water boy

  1679. Sullivan44 Says:

    You know I was thinking about Al Davis yesterday when in Oakland. I can’t believe I never thought of this, but I think Al’s stubbornness later in his life was more his refusal to adapt to “NFL” style football than senility or power trips. I just got to thinking about the AFL. The style of play in the AFL. More excitement, higher scoring, hitting in the defensive backfield, where as the old NFL (now NFC) is more of a matriculation, smart style of football. Taking 4 yards at a time, controlling the clock, etc. I think Al’s whole thing was AFL vs. NFL more than just controlling the Raiders.

  1680. Method To My Madness Says:

    1675.Sullivan44 Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 10:12 am
    Brien, you belong to the most emotionally sensitive species on the planet. And believe it or not, you show it frequently.

    ********

    Yeah and you are the poster child for the most senstive species on the planet

    plus you lie on the constant…you jsut said animals dont cry and that all men cry when loved ones perish…thats so not true….you wouldnt know that becuz you never were around strong men in your family…thats why you are bleeding pxssy right now

  1681. Sullivan44 Says:

    Nope! Nope, Brien. I played JV year. I was no water boy!

  1682. Method To My Madness Says:

    1679.Sullivan44 Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 10:16 am
    You know I was thinking about Al Davis yesterday when in Oakland. I can’t believe I never thought of this, but I think Al’s stubbornness later in his life was more his refusal to adapt to “NFL” style football than senility or power trips. I just got to thinking about the AFL. The style of play in the AFL. More excitement, higher scoring, hitting in the defensive backfield, where as the old NFL (now NFC) is more of a matriculation, smart style of football. Taking 4 yards at a time, controlling the clock, etc. I think Al’s whole thing was AFL vs. NFL more than just controlling the Raiders.

    **********

    Yeah so this is just justification for your love of that dink and dunk h0m0 offense

  1683. Sullivan44 Says:

    Brien, quit being so sensitive.

  1684. Dakota Says:

    1677.Just Fire Baby Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 10:14 am
    What about that Dallas WR in the ice bowl, that would tuck his hands into his pants on running plays?

    I think it was Bullet Hayes.

    +++++++

    Wow. Too funny!

  1685. Sullivan44 Says:

    I’m for whatever wins, Brien. And we dunked and dinked a lot when under Madden/Stabler, too. Dunk that.

  1686. Method To My Madness Says:

    1681.Sullivan44 Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 10:16 am
    Nope! Nope, Brien. I played JV year. I was no water boy!

    **************

    Mommy actually let you get onthe field and get hit? Sorry we dont believe you….no DJs play football…you sat in the stands with the band during the games

  1687. Sullivan44 Says:

    JFB, I’m telling you. Defenses look for all of that. Especially in the pros. Body language is everything. Go ahead, Rockstar. Drum up a homophobic quip for that.

  1688. Method To My Madness Says:

    1683.Sullivan44 Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 10:18 am
    Brien, quit being so sensitive.

    ******

    Coming from the guy who comes on a site just to argue lol and who also gets riled up against his own white race hahahahaha

  1689. Sullivan44 Says:

    Whatever Brien. The position I actually played was “Anvil Linebacker”. Ha ha. I don’t remember what that meant, but that was the name under our defense. I know I wound up taking the anvil.

  1690. Method To My Madness Says:

    1685.Sullivan44 Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 10:18 am
    I’m for whatever wins, Brien. And we dunked and dinked a lot when under Madden/Stabler, too. Dunk that.

    *********

    More lies as usual for MR…yep in vertical offense we dinked and dunked under Al Davis in the 70s when no team was dinking and dunking…..another lie of DjSulliFresh has been exposed….been doing it for 4 years…so why not stop now? lol

  1691. Method To My Madness Says:

    1689.Sullivan44 Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 10:20 am
    Whatever Brien. The position I actually played was “Anvil Linebacker”. Ha ha. I don’t remember what that meant, but that was the name under our defense. I know I wound up taking the anvil.

    ************

    HAHAHAHA Lucas was on defense LOL

  1692. Sullivan44 Says:

    lol. Lucas. I wasn’t that bad. I recovered a fumble. Of course we were already losing something like 50-0.

  1693. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Body language is everything.

    ***********************

    I don’t know if it is “everything” but yes it is important.

    Look good, feel good, play good

  1694. Method To My Madness Says:

    You know what…everyone dont post for the next ten minutes……..MR please tell us about your playing days in Elk Grove…I wanna hear this

  1695. guest123 Says:

    Stabler era had some short stuff here and there, but Cliff Branch would stretch the field like no one else and Freddy B would dig some post routes up top and burn them downfield a lot. This was about as vertical an offense as anything in the Stabler era.

  1696. Method To My Madness Says:

    1692.Sullivan44 Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 10:22 am
    lol. Lucas. I wasn’t that bad. I recovered a fumble. Of course we were already losing something like 50-0.

    *********

    Ok I wont doubt that you were on the JV team….you were prolly 4th string at a school that let anyone play

    At 125 lbs how tough was it to net a tackle?

  1697. Sullivan44 Says:

    The best play I ever made was a penalty. I lit up a running back who caught a ball in the flat…about a second before the ball got to him. I was pulled out for most of the game.

  1698. Sullivan44 Says:

    From a strategical standpoint, JFB. Not just for self motivation. If the defense sees the receiver taking a nap, they know he’s not getting the ball.

  1699. Method To My Madness Says:

    1697.Sullivan44 Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 10:25 am
    The best play I ever made was a penalty. I lit up a running back who caught a ball in the flat…about a second before the ball got to him. I was pulled out for most of the game.

    ****************

    LMAO…yet you always down folks for “dumb” plays and yet thats your best play ever?

  1700. Method To My Madness Says:

    1698.Sullivan44 Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 10:26 am
    From a strategical standpoint, JFB. Not just for self motivation. If the defense sees the receiver taking a nap, they know he’s not getting the ball.

    ************

    So we know you definitely werent on offense

  1701. Sullivan44 Says:

    Brien, funny you mention Elk Grove. They’re the team that beat us 50-0. They were good. They had a star, wound up playing Pac 10 somewhere. I dont’ even remember his name but he ran or something like 600 yards on us.

  1702. KoolKell Says:

    I don’t know if you’d call it dink & dunk, but the Stabler/Madden offense was a lot different from The Lamonica offense.

    The Fred Bilitenkoff 13 yd in/out was the bread n’ butter play.

    Plus they ran the ball a lot, and utilized Tight Ends a lot.

  1703. Method To My Madness Says:

    My god I’m dying rolling…MR talking about his playing days

    Kell where ya at? Tell us about the old days with leather helmets and no face mask when you would try and tackle Jim Thorpe

  1704. Sullivan44 Says:

    Yeah, Brien, I was 16 years old. What’s a 27 year old NFL player’s excuse?

  1705. Method To My Madness Says:

    1701.Sullivan44 Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 10:28 am
    Brien, funny you mention Elk Grove. They’re the team that beat us 50-0. They were good. They had a star, wound up playing Pac 10 somewhere. I dont’ even remember his name but he ran or something like 600 yards on us.

    *************

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  1706. Method To My Madness Says:

    1704.Sullivan44 Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 10:28 am
    Yeah, Brien, I was 16 years old. What’s a 27 year old NFL player’s excuse?

    ******

    becuz he is emotionally sensitive lol

  1707. Sullivan44 Says:

    Brien, I’m talking about how horrible of a player I was. But I wasn’t as bad as Lucas. Come on. I was 6 ft tall, weighed close to 200 lbs. I was slow and overall lame. But I wasn’t an outcast.

  1708. Method To My Madness Says:

    1702.KoolKell Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 10:28 am
    I don’t know if you’d call it dink & dunk, but the Stabler/Madden offense was a lot different from The Lamonica offense.

    The Fred Bilitenkoff 13 yd in/out was the bread n’ butter play.

    Plus they ran the ball a lot, and utilized Tight Ends a lot.
    ******************

    How was it for you when you played against Slingin Sammy Baugh and Otto Graham?

  1709. Method To My Madness Says:

    1707.Sullivan44 Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 10:30 am
    Brien, I’m talking about how horrible of a player I was. But I wasn’t as bad as Lucas. Come on. I was 6 ft tall, weighed close to 200 lbs. I was slow and overall lame. But I wasn’t an outcast.

    **************

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  1710. Sullivan44 Says:

    Think his name was Kidd, forget his first name. I think James Kidd. I’ll try googling it. He ran right by me at least 20 times. Pretty embarrassing.

  1711. Method To My Madness Says:

    My god MR…thank you for these last few posts….this first friday has already started off with a bang….but Kell is getting ready to add to it any second now……wait for it…wait for it

  1712. Sullivan44 Says:

    Kell, I have the Super Bowl against Minnesota on VHS. The Raiders ran a pretty much short passing offense. That’s the only footage I’ve ever seen of Kenny Stabler live, that isn’t some kind of slow motion NFL films. He might have the greatest touch I’ve ever seen. He was a great QB.

  1713. Method To My Madness Says:

    1710.Sullivan44 Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 10:32 am
    Think his name was Kidd, forget his first name. I think James Kidd. I’ll try googling it. He ran right by me at least 20 times. Pretty embarrassing.

    *******

    Seems like the ladies did the same thing to you in high school and way after

    But props to you for embarrassing yourself and talking about those days….you got alot of guys DjSulliFresh

  1714. Sullivan44 Says:

    No problem, Brien. Any time you want me to elaborate on my pathetic 2 year football career, let me know.

  1715. Method To My Madness Says:

    1712.Sullivan44 Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 10:33 am
    Kell, I have the Super Bowl against Minnesota on VHS. The Raiders ran a pretty much short passing offense. That’s the only footage I’ve ever seen of Kenny Stabler live, that isn’t some kind of slow motion NFL films. He might have the greatest touch I’ve ever seen. He was a great QB.

    ********

    No talk Sac HS football please…no NFL yet MR

  1716. Sullivan44 Says:

    Brien, I had no problem with the ladies when I was younger. I don’t know how to convince you. Wasn’t joking about the Fast Break Girl. Spud Webb tried to call her when I was with her. No joking.

  1717. Sullivan44 Says:

    I surprise myself with how good I did when I was younger. I’d do anything to get a time machine, like Uncle Rico.

  1718. Raidernationdave Says:

    Whut up beyotches!!!!

    I’ve been away a few days cause getting on here the last few days proved to be a hassle not worth having.

    “Win, lose or tie Raider Nation til you die!”

  1719. Sullivan44 Says:

    It’s too bad NFL network doesn’t show more of the ’70s games, or just games from those old eras. It’s not the same watching them on slow motion film. You have to see the live telecasts to see how good some of those QBs really were back then. How relaxed they were in the pocket, even after taking the most vicious hits. They’d have blood on their uniforms. I never realized how good of a passer Stabler was till I got a hold of this tape. His release was like art work.

  1720. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Elk Grove is the only place I sold a muni bond on that defualted.

    Azzholes

  1721. Method To My Madness Says:

    1714.Sullivan44 Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 10:34 am
    No problem, Brien. Any time you want me to elaborate on my pathetic 2 year football career, let me know.

    ********

    Pathetic and you go together well but at leaset i guess you played…Beecher is that guy from the commercial saying he was an athlete due to playing Darts at a dive bar

  1722. Sullivan44 Says:

    JFB,

    Elk Grover is the new Sacramento. lol. Everyone moved either there, or to Roseville. Sac proper is all hipster douche now.

  1723. Just Fire Baby Says:

    The Laguna Ridge project.

    I will never forget that.

  1724. Method To My Madness Says:

    1716.Sullivan44 Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 10:35 am
    Brien, I had no problem with the ladies when I was younger. I don’t know how to convince you. Wasn’t joking about the Fast Break Girl. Spud Webb tried to call her when I was with her. No joking.

    1717.Sullivan44 Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 10:36 am
    I surprise myself with how good I did when I was younger. I’d do anything to get a time machine, like Uncle Rico.

    **************

    So now you not smackin any at 38? Sean, it should be easier as you get older

  1725. Sullivan44 Says:

    “elk grove”. not grover.

  1726. Sullivan44 Says:

    Easier as you get older? lol. What world are you living in, man? If you have money maybe.

  1727. Method To My Madness Says:

    1722.Sullivan44 Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 10:42 am
    JFB,

    Elk Grover is the new Sacramento. lol. Everyone moved either there, or to Roseville. Sac proper is all hipster douche now.

    *******

    Whats crackin wit ya southside fam bam?

  1728. Just Fire Baby Says:

    The developer couldn’t sell the homes, never paid any property tax, and just walked away, and I guess nobody ever paid the tax bill that backed the bond issue.

    I left that side of the business before the final court stuff worked it’s way out. Who knows, maybe everybody got made whole eventually.

  1729. Method To My Madness Says:

    1726.Sullivan44 Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 10:43 am
    Easier as you get older? lol. What world are you living in, man? If you have money maybe.

    *******

    MR no bzies is choosin ya? Come on in Sac? Its too easy to score there…I dont need a fkin dime in my pocket and I can pull

  1730. Sullivan44 Says:

    I’m not from southside, Brien. Nor do I know too many from there. My nearest hood is the P. lol.

  1731. Sullivan44 Says:

    Brien, one thing we can all tell about you now. You are NOT in your late 30s. Getting women easier as you get older? Only a young man would utter those delusional words.

  1732. Method To My Madness Says:

    1730.Sullivan44 Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 10:45 am
    I’m not from southside, Brien. Nor do I know too many from there. My nearest hood is the P. lol.

    ***********

    So the “P” is where you gained your stripes from Black folks in an attempt to stop whitey?

  1733. TxRaider210 Says:

    I love what the Raiderettes tell me with their body language:)

  1734. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Pulling wool without a dime is too much work.

    I’d rather throw a few dimes around and be done with the whole process after about 90 minutes, lol.

  1735. Sullivan44 Says:

    When I was young I thought I’d be like Hugh Hefner, too. Doesn’t happen, Brien. You get fatter, grayer, more tired, can’t stay out late. You’ll see.

  1736. SR Raider Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 10:39 am
    I never realized how good of a passer Stabler was till I got a hold of this tape. His release was like art work.
    =================

    Stabler was the best QB the Raiders ever had. Those days were a ton of fun

  1737. Method To My Madness Says:

    1731.Sullivan44 Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 10:47 am
    Brien, one thing we can all tell about you now. You are NOT in your late 30s. Getting women easier as you get older? Only a young man would utter those delusional words.

    ***********
    Delusional? Man some older playas I know get chose all day….maybe you just blid and cant tell when you gettin riddim from a bz

  1738. Sullivan44 Says:

    No, Brien, I never “gained stripes”. That’s just the one hood where I went to school with a few people. You asked me whats happening on the southside. Couldn’t tell you.

  1739. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Kenny Stabler’s troubles mount, owes IRS $265,000

    Posted by Michael David Smith on July 6, 2012, 6:43 AM EDT

    The troubled life of former Raiders quarterback Kenny Stabler isn’t getting any better.

    Stabler recently lost his home to the IRS, but a federal judge has ruled that wasn’t enough to pay his debts, and he still owes more than $260,000 in unpaid taxes, plus a penalty of more than $5,000, plus interest.

    It sounds as if the government may never get all that money, as Stabler’s monthly payments will be based on his income, and Stabler’s attorney, Robert Galloway, told the Mobile Press-Register that Stabler’s income is limited to occasional appearance fees at NFL events.

    “He’s pretty much retired,” he said.

    Stabler was seen as a colorful character during his playing days, when he was selected to four Pro Bowls in the 1970s, won the 1974 MVP and led the Raiders to the title in Super Bowl XI. But that colorful character has had a sad post-NFL life, with three divorces and three drunk driving arrests, the last of which cost him his job as a commentator on Alabama football broadcasts.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/06/kenny-stablers-troubles-mount-owes-irs-265000/

  1740. Raider O Says:

    What up Ho’?

  1741. Sullivan44 Says:

    Brien, you said it yourself, “some” older playas. Hey, I’m not saying no guy can score with a hottie beyond 40. But most don’t, at least not easily. They need money to even be considered.

  1742. Method To My Madness Says:

    1735.Sullivan44 Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 10:48 am
    When I was young I thought I’d be like Hugh Hefner, too. Doesn’t happen, Brien. You get fatter, grayer, more tired, can’t stay out late. You’ll see.

    *********

    Yeah you talking like a married man who has did his play days to the fullest…MR we know thats not been you at all lol

    I dont stay out as late as i use to…i be kickin it with my main bz alot these days but best believe if i get out there im still gettin checked for…see i still have a young face so it kills the bzies when they find out my age….destroyed by end of the nite

  1743. Method To My Madness Says:

    1738.Sullivan44 Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 10:49 am
    No, Brien, I never “gained stripes”. That’s just the one hood where I went to school with a few people. You asked me whats happening on the southside. Couldn’t tell you.

    *********

    Oh so where di the DJin come into play?

  1744. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I don’t understand how these guys end up owing so much money in taxes.

    How do you owe 260K, when you claim you aren’t even making much money?

    To owe over a quarter million in taxes, you literally had to have close to a million dollars of income you paid zero tax on, and that’s if it is in one year. You talking 5 or 6 years, and that number just goes up.

    Good grief!!

  1745. Method To My Madness Says:

    1741.Sullivan44 Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 10:50 am
    Brien, you said it yourself, “some” older playas. Hey, I’m not saying no guy can score with a hottie beyond 40. But most don’t, at least not easily. They need money to even be considered.

    ******

    Sounds like a guy lacking confidence

  1746. Method To My Madness Says:

    1738.Sullivan44 Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 10:49 am
    No, Brien, I never “gained stripes”. That’s just the one hood where I went to school with a few people. You asked me whats happening on the southside. Couldn’t tell you.

    *******

    sure coulda fooled us lol

  1747. Sullivan44 Says:

    lol. Brien, wait till you get older. That’s all I’m going to say. I was just like you in my 20s. Thought those days were going to last forever. Hugh Hefner was my idol. I swore I was going to be like that when I got older. lol. He still is my idol, but the truth is you just get older and uglier with age, and the attention from the ladies starts to wain.

  1748. Method To My Madness Says:

    1734.Just Fire Baby Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 10:48 am
    Pulling wool without a dime is too much work.

    I’d rather throw a few dimes around and be done with the whole process after about 90 minutes, lol.

    ***********

    Trickin? Not my job bruh….bzies go after what they want

  1749. hwnrdr Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 10:10 am
    1670.Sullivan44 Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 10:08 am
    I was wondering who was going to come up with the belt buckle joke first, and I had it between you and Brien. But they really do teach you that in football, Rockstar. Of course you wouldn’t know.

    ********

    Like in basketball playing defense you look at guys waist not the ball….you learn this before you are 10 lol

    Just like in martial arts, you are taught to watch the guys hips and shoulders! Not stare at it, but use your periphials (SP?)

  1750. Method To My Madness Says:

    1747.Sullivan44 Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 10:54 am
    lol. Brien, wait till you get older. That’s all I’m going to say. I was just like you in my 20s. Thought those days were going to last forever. Hugh Hefner was my idol. I swore I was going to be like that when I got older. lol. He still is my idol, but the truth is you just get older and uglier with age, and the attention from the ladies starts to wain.

    **********

    Your hero is a closet gay man? Wow MR lol

    Sorry MR but I shall never look old…I come from ppl who age very well…no you were not like me at all hahahahahahahahahaha

  1751. Sullivan44 Says:

    Hefner’s gay? Never heard that.

  1752. Sullivan44 Says:

    Congratulations, Brien. The only litmus test is time. We’ll see in 10 years. As far as I can see, only guys over 40 with $$$ get the younger women.

  1753. Method To My Madness Says:

    MR….see in my family the males just have a knack….its in my genes mayne….and its worse when I go outta Cali

    I been chillin these days more so….but stay gettin chose even when Im not even paying it any mind…ya just get use to being chose MR….my run from the bzies wont end until i leave this earth

  1754. DJ Johnny Says:

    1449.RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 6:11 am
    CJ37 should have been one of those guys playing in the UFL. first 4 years in the league were pathetic. 3 teams said “no thanks” and he was just a 7th rounder to begin with.

    5 years as an Oakland Raider

    he was a WAY better nickel corner than Routt!

    you could even make a case that he was a better man2man starting CB [when healthy]

    problem is, he’s always hurt & turns 33 in September. plus the family tragedy. as JFB said earlier this offseason, I wouldn’t be upset if Reggie gave him a cheap 1-year deal.

    If that were to happen, he might just beat out everybody and be named the starter though!

    Each family has their own dynamic and I don’t claim to know what CJ’s is/was, but you’d think his sister would’ve wanted him to go on playing as hard as he could…not quit a once in a lifetime career.

    I’m sure he’s a “good guy” but there’s a reason Hue let him take the rest of the yr. off.

    If Carson Palmer had the same situation do you think Hue would’ve said “It’s ok. Take it easy and be with your family the rest of the yr.”

    I’m just sayin’. I don’t see that happening.

    I was never impressed with CJ. IMO he played exactly like the 7th rounder who couldn’t keep a gig with GB or Stl. but the Raiders thought he was better than what he was for some reason.

    I personally did not see anything in him that suggested he was anything more than what anyone else thought he was before coming to Oakland.

    Apparently some of you did. That’s cool.

  1755. RaiderRockstar Says:

    sounds like Kenny Stabler needs to be more involved with the Raiders organization, in some capacity.

    think Mark Davis will come to the rescue, like his dad would have??

  1756. hwnrdr Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 10:59 am
    Congratulations, Brien. The only litmus test is time. We’ll see in 10 years. As far as I can see, only guys over 40 with $$$ get the younger women.

    Dammit! I better get money soon then…lol
    Ok, just kidding!

  1757. Sullivan44 Says:

    JFB, that’s why I’m glad I’m not a business man.

  1758. Method To My Madness Says:

    1752.Sullivan44 Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 10:59 am
    Congratulations, Brien. The only litmus test is time. We’ll see in 10 years. As far as I can see, only guys over 40 with $$$ get the younger women.

    *********

    Wow MR…..you still got much to learn even at your age

    Its sad you think only money will attract women

    Bzies outnumber us man! Pxssy is always available!

  1759. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Black don’t crack, lol

  1760. Sullivan44 Says:

    Brien, only time will tell. More power to you. I like to see older guys hooking up with younger women. I’m no hater. I find hope in it. lol. I’m just telling you, the only guys I see pulling it off are guys with money.

  1761. Method To My Madness Says:

    1757.Sullivan44 Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 11:00 am
    JFB, that’s why I’m glad I’m not a business man.

    ******

    Dee Jays are business men

  1762. guest123 Says:

    the truth is you just get older and uglier with age, and the attention from the ladies starts to wain.

    ********

    How sad. This is a joke right? No can be that shallow can they? Or clueless of what it is that women really want.

    It’s got nothing to do with money, age, muscles. It’s got everything to do with ‘mojo’. Some have it, and others will never have it. It’s something if you have to ask what it is, then you’ll never know. Sad commentary there. I hope it’s just made up and not real opinion.

  1763. Method To My Madness Says:

    1759.Just Fire Baby Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 11:01 am
    Black don’t crack, lol

    **********

    Well maybe but some sure use it lol

  1764. Sullivan44 Says:

    Brien, guys who talk like you..usually when you see the women they hook up with? ewwww.

  1765. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Rob Gronkowski in hot water with Pats ??

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/06/gronk-surfaces-on-new-dating-show/

  1766. Sullivan44 Says:

    Mojo. Haha. Austin Powers, baby.

  1767. Method To My Madness Says:

    1762.guest123 Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 11:01 am
    the truth is you just get older and uglier with age, and the attention from the ladies starts to wain.

    ********

    How sad. This is a joke right? No can be that shallow can they? Or clueless of what it is that women really want.

    It’s got nothing to do with money, age, muscles. It’s got everything to do with ‘mojo’. Some have it, and others will never have it. It’s something if you have to ask what it is, then you’ll never know. Sad commentary there. I hope it’s just made up and not real opinion.

    *******

    LOL homeboy has no game….he dont understand charisma and confidence goes a long way

  1768. Just Fire Baby Says:

    What about Mistic?

    He walks around in his ginsu Karate outfit, demands to be introduced on a first name basis with his bus-boys and hostesses, and he claims he has a stable of honey’s half his age.

    And as much as I usually disagree with the man, I think there is some truth to it.

  1769. Method To My Madness Says:

    1764.Sullivan44 Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 11:02 am
    Brien, guys who talk like you..usually when you see the women they hook up with? ewwww.

    *******

    MR…you cant even hook up with any woman lol

    BTW…with women it all balances out with them no matter what…that will fly over you head

  1770. TxRaider210 Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 11:01 am
    1752.Sullivan44 Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 10:59 am
    Congratulations, Brien. The only litmus test is time. We’ll see in 10 years. As far as I can see, only guys over 40 with $$$ get the younger women.

    *********

    Wow MR…..you still got much to learn even at your age

    Its sad you think only money will attract women

    Bzies outnumber us man! Pxssy is always available!

    ————–
    It is a fact that guys are visual and ladies are verbal. I’ve known some fat slobs that pull nice lookin chicks, simply by putting the right choice of words on em.

  1771. Sullivan44 Says:

    But you know, I believe that. No doubt about it, you have to have that certain go getter mentality, too. I had that when I was younger. Don’t now. And, I think that’s the case with most guys. Brien insists he’s not one of them. We’ll see. And I’d like to see the women he’s bragging on now.

  1772. DJ Johnny Says:

    1751.Sullivan44 Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 10:57 am
    Hefner’s gay? Never heard that.

    No way. If he is he pulled off the ultimate caper all these yrs. and is a master at covering up his true propensity.

    If he’s not using viagra and still getting busy with the 18 yr. olds he most assuredly is creeping out with his advances…then I wanna know his secrets.

    Mine is a popsicle stick and rubberband unless i’m with my mistresses…(kidding).

  1773. Sullivan44 Says:

    Tx,

    Show me one “fat looking slob” without money that has a good looking chick.

  1774. Method To My Madness Says:

    1768.Just Fire Baby Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 11:04 am
    What about Mistic?

    He walks around in his ginsu Karate outfit, demands to be introduced on a first name basis with his bus-boys and hostesses, and he claims he has a stable of honey’s half his age.

    And as much as I usually disagree with the man, I think there is some truth to it.
    *********

    Lot of cats like that in the east bay…some just got it like that…i cant be mad at mistic

  1775. RaiderRockstar Says:

    anybody seriously taking dating advice or football intel from Sully, should promptly grab a seat @ Dr Phil

  1776. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Well maybe but some sure use it lol

    *****************

    I will freely admit I have taken down a D-blunt or 6 in my time.

    We used to drive from Tracy to somewhere in the 80’s ave’s in Oakland for it.

    Then one year after I graduated, someone from West HIgh ended up in a shallow grave in Hayward.

  1777. Method To My Madness Says:

    1771.Sullivan44 Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 11:05 am
    But you know, I believe that. No doubt about it, you have to have that certain go getter mentality, too. I had that when I was younger. Don’t now. And, I think that’s the case with most guys. Brien insists he’s not one of them. We’ll see. And I’d like to see the women he’s bragging on now.

    **********

    Gosh MR…I’d like to see you hook up with any woman period

    A woman is a woman MR…what about that dont you get?

  1778. Method To My Madness Says:

    1776.Just Fire Baby Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 11:07 am
    Well maybe but some sure use it lol

    *****************

    I will freely admit I have taken down a D-blunt or 6 in my time.

    We used to drive from Tracy to somewhere in the 80’s ave’s in Oakland for it.

    Then one year after I graduated, someone from West HIgh ended up in a shallow grave in Hayward.

    *******

    Damn

  1779. DJ Johnny Says:

    Charisma and money go a long way but I can’t imagine any young ladies wanting some stinky azz, flabby old dude getting on top of them, or below them…or whatever with them.

  1780. Sullivan44 Says:

    Just go by what you see, you guys. Any guy can say that he gets women. I’ve only seen guys over 40 with money pull good looking younger women. I’ve never seen anything to the contrary in real life. Ever.

  1781. TxRaider210 Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 11:05 am
    Tx,

    Show me one “fat looking slob” without money that has a good looking chick.

    —————–
    Well my homie Skip was huge, broke and smelly back in the day, but somehow had a way with words man. I’m just saying sometimes chicks want a dude that’s average or below average looking to make them feel better.lol

  1782. Method To My Madness Says:

    1775.RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 11:07 am
    anybody seriously taking dating advice or football intel from Sully, should promptly grab a seat @ Dr Phil

    ******

    RRS…i had to lead him on to just embarrassing himself…admit that this has been funny

  1783. Sullivan44 Says:

    JFB used to smoke crack? Am I reading this correctly?

  1784. Method To My Madness Says:

    1780.Sullivan44 Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 11:08 am
    Just go by what you see, you guys. Any guy can say that he gets women. I’ve only seen guys over 40 with money pull good looking younger women. I’ve never seen anything to the contrary in real life. Ever.

    ************

    LOL

  1785. Sullivan44 Says:

    Tx…

    “back in the day”. So he was young, right? 20s or 30s?

  1786. guest123 Says:

    You don’t need $$$$ to get women if you are over 40. If anything, by this age, the pool of available women are prolly jaded about finding the perfect man, so their expectations are not the same. This is just a guess as I’ve been married for a while now.

    I will say this though. I’m glad I never made it to 40 a single man. That’s sounds like it would be rough.

  1787. Method To My Madness Says:

    1779.DJ Johnny Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 11:08 am
    Charisma and money go a long way but I can’t imagine any young ladies wanting some stinky azz, flabby old dude getting on top of them, or below them…or whatever with them.

    *******

    I mean you cant look all outta pocket but you can be a regular cat in ya 40s and still lambo a bz…pxssy out here ready to be slammed

  1788. RaiderRockstar Says:

    @Tx & G123

    I was friends with this hot chick who told me that she always dates ugly guys, because she knows they’ll never cheat on her & always treat her right ..

    then the ugly dude that she was with for 3 years, cheated on her with his bosses ugly daughter at work to get a promotion!!

    he actually married that ugly pig, then tried to bring the hot chick back in as a side peice, because he knew she was emotionally invested after being with him for 3 years [and it worked!]

    Cali chicks are dumber than rocks. sorry fellas

  1789. Method To My Madness Says:

    brb

  1790. Sullivan44 Says:

    I respect your guys’ optimism, but I think a lot of you are really in denial. I can see it in your words.

  1791. Sullivan44 Says:

    I’m going by what I see, period.

  1792. TxRaider210 Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 11:10 am
    Tx…

    “back in the day”. So he was young, right? 20s or 30s?

    ———————-
    He was in his late 20’s, but the last guy you’d think would pull younger chicks with no money. Also man, there’s a whole world of women who don’t want a man unless they know he’s gettin booty elsewhere.

  1793. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I put it on a blunt and smoked it.

    Is that the same thing?

    Not too concerned about it.

  1794. Sullivan44 Says:

    Please tell me JFB was joking about hitting the pipe when he was younger. He had to be. Why would you go all the way from Tracy to Oakland? Like Stockton doesn’t have crack? Good one, JFB.

  1795. DJ Johnny Says:

    1773.Sullivan44 Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 11:05 am
    Tx,

    Show me one “fat looking slob” without money that has a good looking chick.

    My aunt is Jehovah Witness and used to bring us to thier conventions and one thing I notice was how many very HOT chicks were with very dorky, bald fat dudes.

    She told me it’s becuz they only “marry in the lord”..which means JW’s only date and marry other JW’s and there is slim pickins for eligible “brothers” for them.

    She tried to set me up with a girl and she was absolutely beautiful but way too religious. The girl said that if I became a “witness” she would consider going out in a group of other JW’s with me…bowling or whatever.

  1796. TxRaider210 Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 11:12 am
    @Tx & G123

    I was friends with this hot chick who told me that she always dates ugly guys, because she knows they’ll never cheat on her & always treat her right ..

    then the ugly dude that she was with for 3 years, cheated on her with his bosses ugly daughter at work to get a promotion!!

    he actually married that ugly pig, then tried to bring the hot chick back in as a side peice, because he knew she was emotionally invested after being with him for 3 years [and it worked!]

    Cali chicks are dumber than rocks. sorry fellas

    —————————
    LOL That was a prime example bro, happens all the time I’m sure.

  1797. guest123 Says:

    1788.

    lol

    Ugly dudes in Cali rule!

    See there Sullivan44, go and do likewise.

  1798. Sullivan44 Says:

    Cholos in Tracy were slinging rocks, too. Come on, JFB. That’s going a long way to lie and kick it.

  1799. theghostronin79 Says:

    The best thing, is runnin into a smokin’ hot Bizzie that winds up lovin you. Then you don’t gotta worry about money, or pullin’, or bein’ out late, or attention from ladies anymore. You get to go home and pile a hottie every night of the week…. Life is good.

  1800. guest123 Says:

    I will say this, it’s not your fault that you get balder as you grow older, maybe grayer and get wrinkles and all that. But there’s zero excuse for letting your body go to pot. Keep eating those Taco Bell late night snack packs and McDouble Cheeseburgers and biggie fries and see what happens. Dudes over 40 can’t eat like that. It’s a choice, women or fast food. Choose wisely.

  1801. Just Fire Baby Says:

    It was funner to drive to Oakland, and I guess we didn’t know the street corners in Stockton that sold it at 1pm on a school day.

    Besides, how much further is it to drive from the West end of Tracy ( in 1995 BTW) to Oakland over STockton?

    Maybe 20-30 minutes difference?

  1802. DJ Johnny Says:

    1787.Method To My Madness Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 11:11 am
    1779.DJ Johnny Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 11:08 am
    Charisma and money go a long way but I can’t imagine any young ladies wanting some stinky azz, flabby old dude getting on top of them, or below them…or whatever with them.

    *******

    I mean you cant look all outta pocket but you can be a regular cat in ya 40s and still lambo a bz…pxssy out here ready to be slammed

    Yeah. I was thinking more Hugh Heffners age.

  1803. Just Fire Baby Says:

    We are talking 1995-98 Tracy.

    There were no chulo’s on street corners selling crack lol.

  1804. guest123 Says:

    @1799.

    high five bro! this is the life and life is good!

  1805. TxRaider210 Says:

    theghostronin79 Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 11:15 am
    The best thing, is runnin into a smokin’ hot Bizzie that winds up lovin you. Then you don’t gotta worry about money, or pullin’, or bein’ out late, or attention from ladies anymore. You get to go home and pile a hottie every night of the week…. Life is good.

    ————
    Endorsed bro! How’s life in Oregon treating you man?

  1806. SR Raider Says:

    TxRaider210 Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 11:13 am

    He was in his late 20’s
    ============

    Lol. Pimp city. At 28 you can get pretty much any woman you want, regardless of how you look or act

    I have to agree that I’ve never actually seen a 40+ guy with no money hook up with a 25- hottie. Maybe because most older people have money

  1807. RaiderRockstar Says:

    every night, 79?

    hot dang man!

    are you guys half-rabbit?

  1808. DJ Johnny Says:

    Off topic, but why are cops raiding pot dispensaries in Cali.?

    I thought it was all legal w/ rx’s…

    I saw online how they raided a place and smashed the survelliance cameras and stepped on a guys head.

  1809. guest123 Says:

    every night would be nice, I admit. always seems to be some distaction or excuse. but its a good goal to work toward.

  1810. Sullivan44 Says:

    JFB smoked crack a few times. wow. What a day it’s been so far.

  1811. guest123 Says:

    And since it is the offseason, it’s the least we can do is try and make up for the late nights up watching football.

  1812. TxRaider210 Says:

    DJ Johnny Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 11:25 am
    Off topic, but why are cops raiding pot dispensaries in Cali.?

    I thought it was all legal w/ rx’s…

    I saw online how they raided a place and smashed the survelliance cameras and stepped on a guys head.

    ———————-
    Because the feds feel the need to over-ride the states authority, as usual. It will never end and probably just get worse, regardless what the states say about it.

  1813. RaiderRockstar Says:

    sorry but if your wife works full-time and has a small child at home, it aint happening EVERY NIGHT

    she wont have the energy or desire.

    perhaps she’ll be willing, because she knows its what YOU want … but I like to make sure my wife is “in the mood” as well

  1814. hwnrdr Says:

    guest123 Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 11:17 am
    I will say this, it’s not your fault that you get balder as you grow older, maybe grayer and get wrinkles and all that. But there’s zero excuse for letting your body go to pot. Keep eating those Taco Bell late night snack packs and McDouble Cheeseburgers and biggie fries and see what happens. Dudes over 40 can’t eat like that. It’s a choice, women or fast food. Choose wisely.

    AGREED!

  1815. Sullivan44 Says:

    JFB, I’m a little ashamed in you. You always talk about Oakland being messed up, the drug, ghetto culture, etc. Now you admit you partook in this culture, going there to buy dope, putting money into it. Be nice if you admitted that from the get go, instead of acting all better than Oakland and downing the place. Talk about throwing stones from a glass house.

  1816. SR Raider Says:

    TxRaider210 Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 11:28 am
    DJ Johnny Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 11:25 am
    Off topic, but why are cops raiding pot dispensaries in Cali.?
    =======

    Because they are paid by cartels to eliminate competition? Nah

  1817. TxRaider210 Says:

    SR Raider Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 11:31 am
    TxRaider210 Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 11:28 am
    DJ Johnny Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 11:25 am
    Off topic, but why are cops raiding pot dispensaries in Cali.?
    =======

    Because they are paid by cartels to eliminate competition? Nah

    —————
    Or politicians have been threatened not to legalize pot, gotta keep those prisons-for-profit bursting at the seams.

  1818. hwnrdr Says:

    Can we hit 2000?

  1819. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Well sorry to disappoint, lol.

    Isn’t it easier to disparage trash when you were once trash yourself?

    And when do I bag on Oakland that much? The stadium absolutely, but I don’t rip the town itself often.

  1820. raiderfankirk Says:

    Anyone look at the roster on raiders.com? Ausberry listed as WR, Huston listed as DT. Kelly And Seymour listed as DE. Ivey NT?

  1821. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Wow really?

    Sounds like a 3-4 alignment.

  1822. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I like the idea of moving to a 3-4 more so, but not so sure of TK and Seymour as DE’s.

    Someone else will have to pick up the pass-rushing slack.

  1823. Plunketthead Says:

    Once you get old it is no longer about pulling X number of women.

    Its about having one real good one or avoiding them alltogether.

  1824. TxRaider210 Says:

    Don’t know the roster you saw, this is from the site:
    86 Ausberry, David TE 6-4 245 24 2 USC
    72 Barksdale, Joseph T 6-4 325 23 2 LSU
    69 Barnes, Khalif T 6-5 325 30 8 Washington
    21 Bartell, Ron CB 6-1 210 30 8 Howard
    70 Bergstrom, Tony OL 6-5 313 25 R Utah
    96 Bilukidi, Christo DT 6-5 311 23 R Georgia State
    37 Black, Conroy CB 6-0 185 23 R Utah
    33 Branch, Tyvon SS 6-0 205 25 5 Connecticut
    65 Brisiel, Mike G 6-5 300 29 5 Colorado State
    95 Brodine, Mason DE 6-7 255 24 1 Nebraska-Kearney
    90 Bryant, Desmond DT 6-5 290 26 4 Harvard
    57 Burnett, Kaelin LB 6-4 234 22 R Nevada
    56 Burris, Miles LB 6-2 236 24 R San Diego State
    14 Calhoun, Duke WR 6-2 200 24 2 Memphis
    66 Carlisle, Cooper G 6-5 295 34 13 Florida
    8 Carmona, Eddy K 5-10 203 23 R Harding
    89 Carrier, Derek WR 6-4 238 21 R Beloit
    13 Carswell, Brandon WR 6-1 201 23 R USC
    35 Chekwa, Chimdi CB 6-0 190 23 2 Ohio State
    59 Condo, Jon LS 6-3 250 30 6 Maryland
    91 Crawford, Jack DE 6-5 274 23 R Penn State
    84 Criner, Juron WR 6-3 221 22 R Arizona
    98 Cumbie, Jamie DT 6-7 291 24 1 Clemson
    51 Curry, Aaron LB 6-2 255 26 4 Wake Forest
    75 Davis, Hall DE 6-6 265 25 1 Louisiana-Lafayette
    94 Dorsey, Wayne DE 6-6 272 21 R Mississippi
    81 Efaw, Kyle TE 6-4 247 24 R Boise State
    12 Ford, Jacoby WR 5-9 185 24 3 Clemson
    27 Giordano, Matt DB 5-11 210 29 8 California
    50 Goethel, Travis LB 6-2 240 24 3 Arizona State
    25 Goodson, Mike RB 6-0 210 25 4 Texas A&M
    82 Gordon, Richard TE 6-4 265 25 2 Miami (Fla.)
    64 Hamilton, Dominique DT 6-5 313 23 R Missouri
    60 Haslam, Kevin T 6-5 304 25 3 Rutgers
    42 Henry, Aaron S 6-0 208 23 R Wisconsin
    85 Heyward-Bey, Darrius WR 6-2 210 25 4 Maryland
    99 Houston, Lamarr DE 6-3 305 25 3 Texas
    62 Howell, Nick OL 6-5 290 25 1 USC
    24 Huff, Michael FS 6-1 205 29 7 Texas
    88 Humphrey, Tory TE 6-2 257 29 5 Central Michigan
    78 Hurd, Zach OL 6-7 316 23 1 Connecticut
    53 Ihenacho, Carl LB 6-2 255 24 1 San Jose State
    97 Ivey, Travis NT 6-4 341 25 1 Maryland
    38 Jackson, Rashawn RB 6-1 239 25 1 Virginia
    11 Janikowski, Sebastian K 6-2 250 34 13 Florida State
    22 Jones, Taiwan RB 6-0 195 23 2 Eastern Washington
    93 Kelly, Tommy DT 6-6 300 31 9 Mississippi State
    2 King, Marquette P 6-0 192 23 R Fort Valley State
    71 Knapp, Dan T 6-5 304 23 R Arizona State
    49 Kurn, Mario LB 6-2 238 22 R San Diego
    31 Lambert, Terrail DB 5-10 188 26 1 Notre Dame
    9 Lechler, Shane P 6-2 225 35 13 Texas A&M
    26 Lee, Pat DB 6-0 195 28 5 Auburn
    7 Leinart, Matt QB 6-5 227 29 7 USC
    19 Mayo, Thomas WR 6-2 205 22 R California (PA)
    29 McCann, Bryan DB 5-10 185 24 3 Southern Methodist
    55 McClain, Rolando LB 6-3 255 22 3 Alabama
    20 McFadden, Darren RB 6-2 210 24 5 Arkansas
    16 McGee, Eddie WR 6-3 210 24 1 Illinois
    74 Miller, Colin C 6-3 300 24 1 Central Michigan
    46 Miller, Lonyae RB 6-0 230 24 1 Fresno State
    34 Mitchell, Mike SS 6-1 220 25 4 Ohio University
    17 Moore, Denarius WR 6-0 195 23 2 Tennessee
    18 Murphy, Louis WR 6-2 200 25 4 Florida
    83 Myers, Brandon TE 6-4 250 26 4 Iowa
    10 Newhall-Caballero, Kyle QB 6-3 214 24 R Brown
    76 Nix, Lucas G 6-5 317 22 R Pittsburgh
    3 Palmer, Carson QB 6-5 235 32 10 USC
    67 Parsons, Alex OL 6-4 316 24 1 USC
    30 Powell, Chaz S 6-1 207 24 R Penn State
    6 Pryor, Terrelle QB 6-6 230 23 2 Ohio State
    45 Reece, Marcel FB 6-2 250 27 3 Washington
    44 Schmitt, Owen RB 6-2 245 27 5 West Virginia
    87 Session, Travionte WR 6-2 191 22 R Nevada
    92 Seymour, Richard DT 6-6 310 32 12 Georgia
    77 Shaughnessy, Matt DE 6-5 270 25 4 Wisconsin
    36 Spencer, Shawntae CB 6-1 190 30 9 Pittsburgh
    80 Streater, Rod WR 6-3 200 24 R Temple
    54 Stupar, Nathan LB 6-2 238 24 R Penn State
    39 Taylor, Curtis DB 6-2 210 26 3 LSU
    58 Tollefson, David DE 6-4 266 29 6 Northwest Missouri State
    41 Tonga, Manase FB 5-11 245 28 2 Brigham Young
    28 Underwood, Brandon DB 6-1 190 26 3 Cincinnati
    23 Van Dyke, DeMarcus CB 6-1 180 23 2 Miami (Fla.)
    68 Veldheer, Jared T/C 6-8 315 25 3 Hillsdale
    73 Wang, Ed OL 6-5 321 25 3 Virginia Tech
    52 Wheeler, Philip LB 6-2 240 27 5 Georgia Tech
    61 Wisniewski, Stefen G 6-3 315 23 2 Penn State

  1825. TxRaider210 Says:

    sorry for the mile long post lol

  1826. guest123 Says:

    Here’s my preliminary cut list: (way too early to project, but I hope it falls out this way)

    37 Black, Conroy CB 6-0 185 23 R Utah
    95 Brodine, Mason DE 6-7 255 24 1 Nebraska-Kearney
    14 Calhoun, Duke WR 6-2 200 24 2 Memphis
    8 Carmona, Eddy K 5-10 203 23 R Harding
    89 Carrier, Derek WR 6-4 238 21 R Beloit
    13 Carswell, Brandon WR 6-1 201 23 R USC
    98 Cumbie, Jamie DT 6-7 291 24 1 Clemson
    75 Davis, Hall DE 6-6 265 25 1 Louisiana-Lafayette
    94 Dorsey, Wayne DE 6-6 272 21 R Mississippi
    81 Efaw, Kyle TE 6-4 247 24 R Boise State
    64 Hamilton, Dominique DT 6-5 313 23 R Missouri
    60 Haslam, Kevin T 6-5 304 25 3 Rutgers
    50 Goethel, Travis LB 6-2 240 24 3 Arizona State
    62 Howell, Nick OL 6-5 290 25 1 USC
    88 Humphrey, Tory TE 6-2 257 29 5 Central Michigan
    78 Hurd, Zach OL 6-7 316 23 1 Connecticut
    53 Ihenacho, Carl LB 6-2 255 24 1 San Jose State
    97 Ivey, Travis NT 6-4 341 25 1 Maryland
    38 Jackson, Rashawn RB 6-1 239 25 1 Virginia
    2 King, Marquette P 6-0 192 23 R Fort Valley State
    71 Knapp, Dan T 6-5 304 23 R Arizona State
    49 Kurn, Mario LB 6-2 238 22 R San Diego
    31 Lambert, Terrail DB 5-10 188 26 1 Notre Dame
    19 Mayo, Thomas WR 6-2 205 22 R California (PA)
    29 McCann, Bryan DB 5-10 185 24 3 Southern Methodist
    16 McGee, Eddie WR 6-3 210 24 1 Illinois
    74 Miller, Colin C 6-3 300 24 1 Central Michigan
    46 Miller, Lonyae RB 6-0 230 24 1 Fresno State
    34 Mitchell, Mike SS 6-1 220 25 4 Ohio University
    10 Newhall-Caballero, Kyle QB 6-3 214 24 R Brown
    76 Nix, Lucas G 6-5 317 22 R Pittsburgh
    87 Session, Travionte WR 6-2 191 22 R Nevada
    36 Spencer, Shawntae CB 6-1 190 30 9 Pittsburgh
    39 Taylor, Curtis DB 6-2 210 26 3 LSU
    41 Tonga, Manase FB 5-11 245 28 2 Brigham Young
    28 Underwood, Brandon DB 6-1 190 26 3 Cincinnati
    73 Wang, Ed OL 6-5 321 25 3 Virginia Tech

  1827. Raider O Says:

    Not true. I just looked at it.

  1828. raiderfankirk Says:

    If they run 3-4.seems like personal packages for front 7 will be almost completely different players. I like Huston inside 4-3. Outside 3-4. Right now the roster is loaded with dline player’s. It will be interesting to see how many they keep.

  1829. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Anyone look at the roster on raiders.com? Ausberry listed as WR, Huston listed as DT. Kelly And Seymour listed as DE. Ivey NT?

    Wow really?

    Sounds like a 3-4 alignment.

    ***

    Relax gents.

    Reggie & Dennis haven’t even seen the players in pads yet

  1830. Raider O Says:

    Maybe RR smoked crack with Vegas.
    LOL

  1831. Raider O Says:

    Sorry RR. I thought you posted it.

  1832. raiderfankirk Says:

    Thats what it shows mobile version. Maybe someone could check on that. Just looked as well ( mobile) .

  1833. RaiderRockstar Says:

    34 Mitchell, Mike SS 6-1 220 25 4 Ohio University
    39 Taylor, Curtis DB 6-2 210 26 3 LSU

    ***

    @G123

    we’re not getting rid of both, sorry!

  1834. Sullivan44 Says:

    JFB, you always rip Oakland, and pontificate as to how much better you are than ghetto culture in general. You are ghetto. You smoked crack and bought it in Oakland. It doesn’t get any more ghetto than that. Just like a Republican. Always look at what Republicans criticize the most..we always find out, that’s what they do in their private life.

  1835. raiderfankirk Says:

    Can someone look on phone for difference?

  1836. theghostronin79 Says:

    We need a new damn post. this crap is taking too long to load.

  1837. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Maybe RR smoked crack with Vegas.

    ***

    @Kentucky

    maybe I should lay off the Morrison, Higgins & Pryor comments if this is the way i’m coming across :(

    perhaps I should lay off the McClain, Branch & Laker comments too. this blog would be a much happier place!

  1838. TxRaider210 Says:

    raiderfankirk Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
    Can someone look on phone for difference?

    ———————
    I’ll check it later Kirk, I got no signal in this damn hospital.lol

  1839. guest123 Says:

    It’s early, and none of us have seen live field level reports of this years defense. It’s too early to judge. I can’t wait to see it for myself and adjust my opinion. I think some guys are going to flourish in Tarvers system and others are going to fade away and for whatever reason fail to adapt.

    If getting rid of MM34 is a tradeoff for keeping Curtis Taylor, I’ll take Taylor.

  1840. KoolKell Says:

    Shows Ausberry as a Tight End.

  1841. Raider O Says:

    RR aka podunker,

    Wow!
    I said I was sorry and it was a joke, so don’t be sensitive. You have your moments, but you are not a crackhead. lol

  1842. TxRaider210 Says:

    guest123 Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
    It’s early, and none of us have seen live field level reports of this years defense. It’s too early to judge. I can’t wait to see it for myself and adjust my opinion. I think some guys are going to flourish in Tarvers system and others are going to fade away and for whatever reason fail to adapt.

    If getting rid of MM34 is a tradeoff for keeping Curtis Taylor, I’ll take Taylor.

    ————————-
    Agreed man, I’d take Taylor over MM as well..haven’t seen enough to be sold on Mitchell imo.

  1843. KoolKell Says:

    I think an aggressive player like Mike Mitchell will fit right into this blitz happy defense.

  1844. DutchRaider77 Says:

    July 6th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
    Anyone look at the roster on raiders.com? Ausberry listed as WR, Huston listed as DT. Kelly And Seymour listed as DE. Ivey NT?

    Wow really?

    Sounds like a 3-4 alignment.

    ***

    Relax gents.

    Reggie & Dennis haven’t even seen the players in pads yet

    __________________

    Looked at the Raiders.com Roster and Seymour and Kelly are still listed as DT and Houston is still listed as a DE? Secret location?

    http://www.raiders.com/team/roster.html

  1845. guest123 Says:

    yeah, maybe I’m off base. prolly am…but I just don’t see MM34 as an “aggressive” player. He runs hard but is out of position to put a clean lick on anyone. Whether its poor angles or overruning the play, he’s always playing catchup on the field and sticks his arms out there to be punished by the ball carrier. He’s like a matador. I don’t get the “missile mike” nickname. Reputation like Tarzan and plays like Jane.

  1846. DutchRaider77 Says:

    @raiderfankirk

    Must be your clairvoyant powers, quick what are my lucky numbers?

  1847. TxRaider210 Says:

    DutchRaider77 Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
    @raiderfankirk

    Must be your clairvoyant powers, quick what are my lucky numbers?

    —————–
    lmao

  1848. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Mike Mitchell gets written off after 7 starts?

    how many has McClain had???

  1849. alf_capone Says:

    Mike Mitchell gets written off after 7 starts?

    ———————————————————

    wait, he didnt get written off when we drafted him?

  1850. theghostronin79 Says:

    yeah, maybe I’m off base. prolly am…but I just don’t see MM34 as an “aggressive” player. He runs hard but is out of position to put a clean lick on anyone. Whether its poor angles or overruning the play, he’s always playing catchup on the field and sticks his arms out there to be punished by the ball carrier. He’s like a matador. I don’t get the “missile mike” nickname. Reputation like Tarzan and plays like Jane.

    =====
    Definately dissappointing. I have seen him lay some slobber-knockers though. Too bad they’re so few and far (with missed tackles) in between.

  1851. TxRaider210 Says:

    theghostronin79 Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
    yeah, maybe I’m off base. prolly am…but I just don’t see MM34 as an “aggressive” player. He runs hard but is out of position to put a clean lick on anyone. Whether its poor angles or overruning the play, he’s always playing catchup on the field and sticks his arms out there to be punished by the ball carrier. He’s like a matador. I don’t get the “missile mike” nickname. Reputation like Tarzan and plays like Jane.

    =====
    Definately dissappointing. I have seen him lay some slobber-knockers though. Too bad they’re so few and far (with missed tackles) in between.

    ——–
    I’m hoping many player’s woes will be helped out by the consistency and discipline that DA and RM teach them. I’ll stop knocking these guys for now, but after next year they’re fair game.

  1852. guest123 Says:

    I’ll stop knocking these guys for now, but after next year they’re fair game.

    **********

    I for one think that they have only training camp and a few quarters of preseason football to take them off the fair game list. Those with a rep for sloppy defense are guilty until proven innocent under the new Reggime. Step up now or be forced outta town.

  1853. Method To My Madness Says:

    Yeah cut Ivey and who plays NT for ya? Tommy Kelly? Fail…Seymour? That was a fail as well

  1854. raiderfankirk Says:

    M/raiders.com David Ausberry WR. Lamar Huston DT . Just looked again. On my droid.

  1855. Seymour Bush Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 11:27 am

    JFB smoked crack a few times. wow. What a day it’s been so far.
    ===========================================

    Hey who hasn’t smoked some rock and then shot at a couple of cops. Just ask the Godfather of Soul James Brown, God rest his soul.

  1856. raiderfankirk Says:

    HTTP://m.raiders.com/s/5992/Roster

  1857. Method To My Madness Says:

    1855.Seymour Bush Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 1:30 pm
    Sullivan44 Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 11:27 am

    JFB smoked crack a few times. wow. What a day it’s been so far.
    ===========================================

    Hey who hasn’t smoked some rock and then shot at a couple of cops. Just ask the Godfather of Soul James Brown, God rest his soul.

    ******

    Better than wanting to get it in with your cousin aint it?

  1858. hwnrdr Says:

    Did everyone run away?

  1859. JB Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 11:50 am

    I like the idea of moving to a 3-4 more so, but not so sure of TK and Seymour as DE’s.

    Someone else will have to pick up the pass-rushing slack.
    *************************

    a 3-4 DE is Seymour’s natural playing position. Can’t say the same for Kelly though. We should also note that 3-4 LB is McClain’s natural position and NOT 4-3 MLB. Maybe he can start playing as we expected him to when drafted. This is his make/break year.

  1860. hwnrdr Says:

    Well, you all have a great weekend! Peace out, Nation!

  1861. Method To My Madness Says:

    1859.JB Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
    Just Fire Baby Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 11:50 am

    I like the idea of moving to a 3-4 more so, but not so sure of TK and Seymour as DE’s.

    Someone else will have to pick up the pass-rushing slack.
    *************************

    a 3-4 DE is Seymour’s natural playing position. Can’t say the same for Kelly though. We should also note that 3-4 LB is McClain’s natural position and NOT 4-3 MLB. Maybe he can start playing as we expected him to when drafted. This is his make/break year.

    ************

    Cut Kelly

  1862. Method To My Madness Says:

    AnDris Biedrins lol…..wait til yall see the new photo of thiscat hahahahahahahahaahahaa….too funny…backseat of the jeep let’s swing an episode hahahaahahaaha too funny

  1863. Method To My Madness Says:

    http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/07/06/andris-biedrins-in-the-backseat-of-a-car-with-a-female-and-a-solo-cup/

  1864. KoolKell Says:

    Tommy Kelly is probably the best Defensive Lineman we have.

  1865. J Hill Says:

    Cut Kelly

    ————————————————————–

    Ridiculousness

  1866. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
    Tommy Kelly is probably the best Defensive Lineman we have
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Probably so swabbY.

    Like so many other Raider defensive players though, he hasn’t-so far-shown the dangerous intent that people like Big Ben and Jack T. showed.

  1867. Seymour Bush Says:

    Kelly and Seymour need some adequate depth behind them. I said that 6 hours ago. If they are fresh they are forces to be reckoned with. Hopefully one or two of the late round or undrafted guys will pan out to go with Desmond and possibly moving Houston inside.

  1868. KoolKell Says:

    3-Technique (4-3 Pass Rush Tackle) – Tommy Kelly

    Probably the most well known of the defensive techniques, the 3-technique lines up shaded to the guard’s outside shoulder, ready to shoot the B-gap on his side of the formation. Various line shifts and defensive schemes have been developed with the express purpose of getting the 3-technique the most beneficial situation possible, which is why guys like Warren Sapp, John Randle, Keith Millard and now Ndamukong Suh have been able to rack-up sack numbers. The 4-3 Under front, discussed in our article on Hybrid defenses, was designed to isolate the weak side guard 1-on-1 with the 3-technique (or under) tackle. This player’s job is to penetrate the line of scrimmage through his B-gap and disrupt plays in the backfield, whether pass or run. Unlike the first two tackle positions, the 3-technique relies far more on speed and agility than brute strength. Oakland’s Tommy Kelly is arguably the NFL’s prototype for the position. At 6’6 and 300lbs he is quick, nimble and has the kind of burst off the ball that can make it tough for a blocker to recover position.

    http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2011/08/12/defensive-line-techniques-the-prototypes/

  1869. Method To My Madness Says:

    1864.KoolKell Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
    Tommy Kelly is probably the best Defensive Lineman we have.

    *********

    No…he cant play the run…he sucks…Shaughnessy is more than likely that guy

  1870. Method To My Madness Says:

    tommy faily….play every position on raiders line yet dline stillsux….time to cut this loser

  1871. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    R.I.P Big Ben Davidson.

    I saw Big Ben once coming down Mission Blvd in Hayward…hanging on his ape hangers…letting people know that a Raider was riding by.

    Davidson was one of the players who helped create that Raider mystique that the whole country latched onto.

    R.I.P. Big Ben and when Namath and Dawson get up there….hit ‘em again.

  1872. TxRaider210 Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
    Kelly and Seymour need some adequate depth behind them. I said that 6 hours ago. If they are fresh they are forces to be reckoned with. Hopefully one or two of the late round or undrafted guys will pan out to go with Desmond and possibly moving Houston inside.
    —————
    Many people have faith in Bilukidi for some reason, I tend to think Crawford may sneak up and surprise a few folks in the rotation. imo

  1873. TxRaider210 Says:

    Tommy Kelly seems like his fat outweighs his athleticism imo, if it were the other way around he may be a better player.

  1874. Method To My Madness Says:

    Faily sucks…he cant play run at all and disappears alot…fugg him

  1875. Seymour Bush Says:

    Paul Posluszny had almost 200 tackles last year as the MLB for Jokesonville. Our guy had half that. Enuff said.

  1876. TxRaider210 Says:

    http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2012/07/amani-toomer-tony-romo-eli-manning/1
    ——————-
    Ok, Toomer must be smokin something good, crunch time is what matters most!

  1877. KoolKell Says:

    I think people who have a problem with Raider DT’s should have taken it up with Al Davis while he was still alive. Four Man pass rushers, not Nose Tackles.

  1878. TxRaider210 Says:

    You think Al would have listened to us man?

  1879. KoolKell Says:

    3-Technique (4-3 Pass Rush Tackle) – Tommy Kelly

    Probably the most well known of the defensive techniques, the 3-technique lines up shaded to the guard’s outside shoulder, ready to shoot the B-gap on his side of the formation. Various line shifts and defensive schemes have been developed with the express purpose of getting the 3-technique the most beneficial situation possible, which is why guys like Warren Sapp, John Randle, Keith Millard and now Ndamukong Suh have been able to rack-up sack numbers. The 4-3 Under front, discussed in our article on Hybrid defenses, was designed to isolate the weak side guard 1-on-1 with the 3-technique (or under) tackle. This player’s job is to penetrate the line of scrimmage through his B-gap and disrupt plays in the backfield, whether pass or run. Unlike the first two tackle positions, the 3-technique relies far more on speed and agility than brute strength. Oakland’s Tommy Kelly is arguably the NFL’s prototype for the position. At 6’6 and 300lbs he is quick, nimble and has the kind of burst off the ball that can make it tough for a blocker to recover position.

    http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2011/08/12/defensive-line-techniques-the-prototypes/
    ——————————-
    The Prototype of what he was asked to play.

  1880. KoolKell Says:

    TxRaider210 Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 3:05 pm

    You think Al would have listened to us man?
    ————————————-
    He didn’t listen to me, but then again I wasn’t a Al Davis bootlicker………..

  1881. Method To My Madness Says:

    Stupid btch since i been on here i been saying i want a real run stffer in the middle and you fkin know it Kell!

  1882. Method To My Madness Says:

    Entire blog knows this true….typical democrat Kell…ignoring the truth

  1883. Seymour Bush Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 3:03 pm

    I think people who have a problem with Raider DT’s should have taken it up with Al Davis while he was still alive. Four Man pass rushers, not Nose Tackles.
    ======================================

    Wrong. The rest of the league is catching up to Davis. Buffalo is shifting out of the three to the four man. The Giants won it all with the four man front, and the standard nose tackle position is going the way of the dodo bird and the newspaper. It’s a passing league and guys get the ball off before DE’s can get to them. You better be getting rush up the gut in this day and age we have two of the best in the league at that.

  1884. KoolKell Says:

    Well stupid btch, Al Davis disagreed.

  1885. KoolKell Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
    KoolKell Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 3:03 pm

    I think people who have a problem with Raider DT’s should have taken it up with Al Davis while he was still alive. Four Man pass rushers, not Nose Tackles.
    ======================================

    Wrong. The rest of the league is catching up to Davis. Buffalo is shifting out of the three to the four man. The Giants won it all with the four man front, and the standard nose tackle position is going the way of the dodo bird and the newspaper. It’s a passing league and guys get the ball off before DE’s can get to them. You better be getting rush up the gut in this day and age we have two of the best in the league at that.
    ————————————–
    Why are you telling me, you afraid to tell it to Brien? Lol.

  1886. Seymour Bush Says:

    Why are you telling me, you afraid to tell it to Brien? Lol.
    =======================================

    The NT position in the league is one of the few things that Bri and I have disagreed with over the last few years. That, and Chokie Lee Higgins. But I do have to say, Phatt Matt’s was TAS-TEEEEEE!!!

  1887. Method To My Madness Says:

    1884.KoolKell Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
    Well stupid btch, Al Davis disagreed.

    ******
    Oh so I disagreed with Al? Wow so much for your bootlicker tag…thanks Kell you walked right into that one….again you contradict yourself as usual….typical dumb demophag POS

  1888. Method To My Madness Says:

    1886.Seymour Bush Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
    Why are you telling me, you afraid to tell it to Brien? Lol.
    =======================================

    The NT position in the league is one of the few things that Bri and I have disagreed with over the last few years. That, and Chokie Lee Higgins. But I do have to say, Phatt Matt’s was TAS-TEEEEEE!!!

    ******

    And Jamarcus and Justin Farglass

    Fat Matt’s?…..B@uce!Huah!

  1889. KoolKell Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
    Why are you telling me, you afraid to tell it to Brien? Lol.
    =======================================

    The NT position in the league is one of the few things that Bri and I have disagreed with over the last few years. That, and Chokie Lee Higgins. But I do have to say, Phatt Matt’s was TAS-TEEEEEE!!!
    —————————————-
    So why don’t you address him on your NT theories?

  1890. raiderfankirk Says:

    Huston / olb in 3-4 ? Athletic natural leverage.

  1891. Method To My Madness Says:

    1889.KoolKell Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
    Seymour Bush Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
    Why are you telling me, you afraid to tell it to Brien? Lol.
    =======================================

    The NT position in the league is one of the few things that Bri and I have disagreed with over the last few years. That, and Chokie Lee Higgins. But I do have to say, Phatt Matt’s was TAS-TEEEEEE!!!
    —————————————-
    So why don’t you address him on your NT theories?

    ********

    Have you not been to school Kell? Can you comprehend the first sentence from Glenn?

    We have went over the NT issues hella times…you dumbfk

  1892. Seymour Bush Says:

    We have went over the NT issues hella times…you dumbfk
    ======================

    True dat

  1893. KoolKell Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
    Seymour Bush Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
    KoolKell Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 3:03 pm

    I think people who have a problem with Raider DT’s should have taken it up with Al Davis while he was still alive. Four Man pass rushers, not Nose Tackles.
    ======================================

    Wrong. The rest of the league is catching up to Davis. Buffalo is shifting out of the three to the four man. The Giants won it all with the four man front, and the standard nose tackle position is going the way of the dodo bird and the newspaper. It’s a passing league and guys get the ball off before DE’s can get to them. You better be getting rush up the gut in this day and age we have two of the best in the league at that.
    ————————————–
    Well then, what am I wrong about, was I advocating a Nose Tackle? Brien was.

    Ah, you had discussions about it before, gotcha.

  1894. Method To My Madness Says:

    Yeah Kell apologize for being the total jackass you usually are…be a man…you havent admitted being wrong SINCE I CHECKED YOUR ASS ABOUT JAMARCUS RUSSELL WHEN YOU SAID I DIDNT KNOW SCHIT…..remember that?

  1895. Method To My Madness Says:

    Seymour and Kelly as a 4-3 DT combo will never stop the run…i been saying it for a few years and im still right….fk what ya heard

  1896. Raidernationdave Says:

    Whut up O?!!

    +++++++++++++

    Raider O Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 10:49 am

    What up Ho’?

  1897. Raidernationdave Says:

    I can tell you the date I became a Raider fan. November 1, 1970.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9PphIJRsbg

    My folks tried to make me a Chiefs fan because my last name (not common) was the same as the Chiefs right guard. My pops said we were related.

    I liked to dudes in Silver & Black!

  1898. Seymour Bush Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 3:44 pm

    Seymour and Kelly as a 4-3 DT combo will never stop the run…i been saying it for a few years and im still right….fk what ya heard
    ========================================

    Their jobs aren’t to stop the run. That’s McLame’s job. Their job is to get after the guy chucking the rock.

  1899. backstageatapuppetshow Says:

    Their jobs are essentially to take up 2 blocks in the run game….and to push the pocket in the passing game…anything on top of that is gravy!

  1900. KoolKell Says:

    Backstageatapuppetshow Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 4:45 pm

    Their jobs are essentially to take up 2 blocks in the run game….and to push the pocket in the passing game…anything on top of that is gravy!
    ——————
    WRONG. Not in Al Davis’ scheme. See above comment.

  1901. backstageatapuppetshow Says:

    A defensive tackles main job is not to rush the passer. It is to take on double teams and not give ground.

    I’m not going to argue with you KoolKell…you obviously don’t know what you are talking about.

    Just because you include an example of the NEW YORK GIANTS Defensive Line and their amazing athletic ability in winning 2 Super Bowls does not prove your point.

  1902. backstageatapuppetshow Says:

    Mr. Davis may have like to have Defensive Tackles who ALSO had the ability to rush the passer…but even he realized that rushing the passer was not their main responsibility.

    Do you recall the week we traded for Seymour?

    It was prior to a San Diego Monday night game. Mr. Davis signed him to help put an end to our pathetic RUSH defense.

    I’d love to agree with you KoolKell, but if I did, we would both be wrong!

  1903. KoolKell Says:

    See post 1880

  1904. KoolKell Says:

    Backstageatapuppetshow Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 5:59 pm

    A defensive tackles main job is not to rush the passer. It is to take on double teams and not give ground.

  1905. KoolKell Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 6:13 pm
    Backstageatapuppetshow Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 5:59 pm

    A defensive tackles main job is not to rush the passer. It is to take on double teams and not give ground.
    —————–
    In most systems, yes. Not Al’s

  1906. backstageatapuppetshow Says:

    If you are attempting to get me to publicly disagree with Mr. Davis, think again. I never had the pleasure of talking with him.

    However:

    If 1 of my defensive tackles gets doubled teamed then the match-up within the rest of the scheme is 10 on 9.

    If 2 of my defensive tackles get double teamed then the match-up within the rest of the scheme is 9 on 7.

    Either way, the defense is at an advantage.

    This is why the Defensive Tackles Main job is to assume a double team.

    Usually, only one player will get double teamed, a 3 technique in a 4-3 and a Nose in a 3-4.

  1907. backstageatapuppetshow Says:

    Koolkell, did you work closely with Mr. Davis?

    How do you know what he thought?

  1908. backstageatapuppetshow Says:

    I know Mr. Davis said that he wanted to pressure the QB with his front 4. I’ve seen the clips on the History of the Raiders DVD.

    This I am not disagreeing with.

    If this is what you are referring to I think we are disagreeing about different things.

    All I’m saying is a Defensive Tackle is in the game to stop the run by assuming a double team and attempting to beat it and make a play.

    In the passing game, if we can get some A and B Gap push with our hands in the air when the ball is thrown then we have a guy who is more then doing his “MAIN” job.

  1909. KoolKell Says:

    Backstageatapuppetshow Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 6:29 pm

    Koolkell, did you work closely with Mr. Davis?

    How do you know what he thought?
    ——————–
    You think I could follow the Raiders for 48 years, and not know his ideologies? they’ve been well documented over the years. Everybody here know, except you, I guess.

    One more time, see posts 1880 & 1899. I’m done.

  1910. backstageatapuppetshow Says:

    Now you’re speaking for everybody?

    Hahahahahahahaha!

  1911. RaiderSam Says:

    Backstageatapuppetshow Says:
    July 6th, 2012 at 5:59 pm
    A defensive tackles main job is not to rush the passer. It is to take on double teams and not give ground.

    I’m not going to argue with you KoolKell…you obviously don’t know what you are talking about.

    Just because you include an example of the NEW YORK GIANTS Defensive Line and their amazing athletic ability in winning 2 Super Bowls does not prove your point.

    ==============

    I’m still wondering why they didnt get Alameda T’amu when he was on the board and went with Bergstrom …. (and he still hasn’t cracked the start)

  1912. personal foul Says:

    Wow, talk about offseason hell.

    First we get four days notice of a live chat. Then Corkran bails while barely into the chat to go jump on a story about the unfortunate and all-too-soon passing of Big Ben.

    And then…..?

    Nothing for four days. I know it’s slow Steve, but WTF? After all this time “researching”, I figure the length of your tribute to Ben Davidson should rival Tolsoy, AT LEAST.

    Don’t be a stranger. Write sometime.

  1913. Raidernationdave Says:

    First off. My hat’s off to those who got the problem fixed gettin on the blog. It’s a great blog.

    I missed the homies!

    The PMPP.

    Party central.

    Green buds & high times forever!

    “Win lose or tie Raider Nation til you die”!

    Jumpin’ outta a plane in two weeks.

    I’ll be geared up of course.

    Got the “Full Package” – video & pics. 1 minute tandem free fall.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/former-oakland-raiders-defensive-end-charged-four-slayings-034909205–nfl.html

    LOS ANGELES (Reuters) – Former Oakland Raiders defensive end Anthony Wayne Smith, whose murder trial stemming from a 2008 shooting death ended in a hung jury, was charged this week with three more Los Angeles County slayings from several years earlier.

    The new criminal complaint, filed on Monday, charges Smith, 43, with a total of four counts of first-degree murder, incorporating the original case against him and the kidnap-killings of three other men – one in 1999 and two in 2001.

    Special allegations listed in the complaint say the three earlier victims were tortured before being killed.

    An arraignment has been set for July 17 on the new charges, and Smith remains held without bond, a spokeswoman for the Los Angeles County District Attorney’s Office, Sandi Gibbons, said on Thursday.

    Smith’s lawyer, Michael Evans, said his client would plead not guilty to all the charges and that the new criminal complaint came as a “surprise to all of us.”

    Smith, a first-round 1990 draft pick of the Raiders, then based in Los Angeles, and an 11th pick overall for the National Football League that year, played all seven seasons of his NFL career for the Raiders, first in Los Angeles and then in Oakland.

    Evans said he was informed of the new charges just 45 minutes before jury selection was set to begin on Monday in the retrial of the original case charging Smith with murder in the October 2008 slaying of an associate named Maurilio Ponce.

    The first jury deadlocked 8-to-4 in favor of a guilty verdict, leading to a mistrial.