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Raiders pass in supplemental draft

By Steve Corkran
Thursday, July 12th, 2012 at 11:53 am in Oakland Raiders.

The Raiders selected quarterback Terrelle Pryor in the 2011 supplemental draft. On Thursday, the Raiders passed on the opportunity to select Baylor wide receiver Josh Gordon, even though they attended his pre-draft workout.
Gordon was selected by the Cleveland Browns in the second round of the supplemental draft, and he was the only player taken.
The Raiders held the 14th pick of the first round and had only one shot at Gordon, as it turned out. The Browns used the No. 2 pick of the second round to nab Gordon.
Raiders general manager Reggie McKenzie has said that he is fond of his draft picks. He, obviously, didn’t feel as if a first-rounder for Gordon was a value pick.
Pryor cost the Raiders their 2012 third-rounder. The Browns now are without their second-round pick for the 2013 NFL draft.
The Raiders apparently are content going into the season with Denarius Moore, Darrius Heyward-Bey, Jacoby Ford, Juron Criner and whoever else emerges from a unit chock full of intriguing prospects.

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  1. hwnrdr Says:

    hwnrdr Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 11:54 am
    Cleveland? WTF! What kid ever dreams about growing up and being the QB for the Cleveland Browns! Totally beneath him…

    Brady Quinn!

  2. DutchRaider77 Says:

    The great J. Russell is waiting until Peyton Manning goes down, Elway has Russell on Speed dial already, so it will be pretty easy.

  3. DutchRaider77 Says:

    @hwnrdr
    Do you remember when they asked Russell if he wanted to play in the UFL? He balked and said no kid ever grows up wanting to play in the UFL…

  4. raidertbone Says:

    And so, the line continues. #2 couldn’t carry Elway’s lunch (unless, of course, we’re talking’ about a whole big bag of In-N-Out greasiness!!!)

  5. JLofty Says:

    Any word (Steve or Jer) about the young wideouts working with Carson Bomber prior to training camp or is it purely vacation time these days?

  6. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    JLofty Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 11:59 am
    Any word (Steve or Jer) about the young wideouts working with Carson Bomber prior to training camp or is it purely vacation time these days?

    —-

    Palmer, Boller & Brees worked out with T.O. a week ago.. bout it.

  7. JLofty Says:

    I would laugh a lung out if the Donkey’s picked up Jamayonnaise. Literally….

  8. raidertbone Says:

    Gordon was intriguing, but I am glad that Reggie didn’t mortgage a future pick — we’ve already got a lot of young talent on the squad — Murphy might not even make the roster TY!

  9. JLofty Says:

    Thanks DAV, that’s not what I was hoping for. TO can retire to the mental ward where he belongs as far I am concerned….
    But if it keeps old Carson’s arm limber than so be it…

  10. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    yo

  11. raidertbone Says:

    Can’t wait for Reggie’s first camp to start — looks like the inmates will no longer be running the asylum!

  12. raidertbone Says:

    I hear that Criner is looking’ pretty good …

  13. RaiderDuck Says:

    DutchRaider77 Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 11:57 am
    @hwnrdr
    Do you remember when they asked Russell if he wanted to play in the UFL? He balked and said no kid ever grows up wanting to play in the UFL

    =============================================

    Actually, it was worse. He said that about the CFL, where Marcus Allen’s brother had a 20-year-career at QB and where Doug Flutie was able to revive his NFL chances quite nicely.

    The article also made it clear JaPaycheck was just sitting at home waiting for team to call instead of improving himself. He could have gone to the UFL last fall, racked up a few 300-yard games, and some NFL team would probably have signed him once the UFL season was oer, a la JP Losman a couple of years ago. Instead, what does he do? Sit around the barbershop with his posse and talk about old times. Whatever.

  14. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    raidertbone Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
    I hear that Criner is looking’ pretty good …

    —-

    Yea, we landed on the moon too!!

    LOL jk man..

  15. hwnrdr Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
    raidertbone Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
    I hear that Criner is looking’ pretty good …

    —-

    Yea, we landed on the moon too!!

    LOL jk man..

    Or…did we???

  16. guest123 Says:

    Gordon wouldn’t crack the top 4 on our roster. Criner as a 5th round pick is better and has none of the red flags as Gordon.

    Add in the fact that the Browns are probably picking at the top of round #2, that pick is going to be like pick #33 or so. That’s a ridiculously high reach for a WR with a 3rd/4th round grade minus the off field issues.

    Also think about the Julio Jones trade, Browns got Phil Taylor, Greg Little and old rookie QB Weeden. That’s a seriously one-sided deal that will sustain Cleveland’s misery for the rest of the decade.

  17. raidertbone Says:

    DAV – whatchoo smokin’ man?!!

  18. raidertbone Says:

    I would sure hate to be Browns fan … they were chosen as the #1 most snakebittten franchise for a reason!

  19. raidertbone Says:

    Moon landing was a giant hoax — secrets revealed in 1971 James Bond movie “Diamonds Are Forever”

  20. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Cleveland? WTF! What kid ever dreams about growing up and being the QB for the Cleveland Browns

    ***

    @Dutch

    Weeden, Wallace, McCoy ??

  21. RaiderRockstar Says:

    @Steve Corkran

    still nothing about Davidson?

  22. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Like to see where Wesley & Lumpkin end up..

  23. RaiderRockstar Says:

    @DAV

    could Oakland use Boise State defensive back Quaylon Ewing ??

  24. RaiderDuck Says:

    Raidertbone Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
    Moon landing was a giant hoax — secrets revealed in 1971 James Bond movie “Diamonds Are Forever”

    ==========================================

    No, it was not. Real mean really landed on the real moon, as proven by photographic evidence of the descent modules, lots of movie film taken by the astronauts, moon rocks brought back, etc, etc, etc.

  25. guest123 Says:

    As a high 2nd round pick, Gordon will make roughly 5M over four years, including a signing bonus of about 2-3M. First two yrs full guarantee

    *********

    Christmas in July for the Gordon household!

  26. guest123 Says:

    I was going to say, the NASA exhibit at the Smithsonian and the Museum in Huntsville sure convinced me.

  27. DutchRaider77 Says:

    July 12th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
    Cleveland? WTF! What kid ever dreams about growing up and being the QB for the Cleveland Browns

    ***

    @Dutch

    Weeden, Wallace, McCoy ??

    ____________________________________________

    Sorry Rockstar, it was just a dig at Russell. Duck actually breaks down the point I was trying to make above.

    XOXO-Dutch

  28. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
    @DAV

    could Oakland use Boise State defensive back Quaylon Ewing ??

    —-

    Meh..

    Gotta see what DVD & Chekwa can do first.

    Lumpkin & Wesley seem more useful to us. IMO

  29. hwnrdr Says:

    I say we did also, but…
    Where did the wind come from? That is the only thing I see that is pro hoax!

  30. guest123 Says:

    The only surprise really was TCU scatback Ed Wesley not getting picked. He’s for sure going to picked up by a RB hungry team.

  31. oldschoolraider Says:

    This is off subject but does anyone have a clue as to what’s holding up the Branch contract? Is branch holding out for Griffin money?

  32. raidertbone Says:

    #24 –
    Raiderduck – can’t believe you actually bit on that one!

  33. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    overpriced bay area.

    4.Coach Elkins Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 1:41 am
    Please share this video with all Raider Fans on all social media websites:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBxTAPgm41k&feature=g-upl

    —————————–
    I have to admit this is pretty good, Can’t wait till the season starts! Hopefully I will be witnessing a victory live in Baltimore!

  34. RaiderRockstar Says:

    does anyone have a clue as to what’s holding up the Branch contract? Is branch holding out for Griffin money?

    ***

    @Ohio

    yes – at least that much. $7 or $8 million per year according to PFT last month

    Reggie’s fault for tagging him. Should have let him test the waters in free agency. Then offer to match his highest bid, unless it was out of our price range.

    Reggie may just be wanting to see what he’s got in Branch though, before breaking the bank on him. This would be a wise move imo

  35. RaiderRockstar Says:

    sorry, not Ohio …

    #34 was directed at Oldschool

  36. guest123 Says:

    I wouldn’t be heartbroken if Reggie lets TB33 play out the year for 6.2M. The silver lining is no free cap space to sign unneeded scrub RB’s like C. Benson. I can live with the tradeoff.

  37. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
    @Steve Corkran

    still nothing about Davidson?
    ————–
    I have been thinking the same thing for days now.

  38. guest123 Says:

    You see Rockstar, I’m coming around to your way of thinking!

    :)

  39. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    guest123 Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
    I wouldn’t be heartbroken if Reggie lets TB33 play out the year for 6.2M. The silver lining is no free cap space to sign unneeded scrub RB’s like C. Benson. I can live with the tradeoff.
    —————-
    We are going to need that “unneeded scrub” at some point this season unless Taiwan really kills it in preseason.

  40. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    Just rewatched last years Chi/Oak game. That game had the potential to be a serious blowout for the Raiders if we could just find the endzone more than once. (6 Jano FG’s)

  41. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    Disappointed I missed out when you guys were talking about Eddie Murray, Robbie Alomar, Rock Raines etc; A time when I actually liked baseball.

  42. raidertbone Says:

    I agree with RockStar. It seems like Reggie is rolling the dice on the franchise tag now, and hopefully we can work out a deal. If he plays well (and if the team does well), I think it can happen. I don’t think Reggie’s going to break the bank on him, however.

  43. DutchRaider77 Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
    @Steve Corkran

    still nothing about Davidson?
    ————–
    I have been thinking the same thing for days now.

    ____________________________________________________

    Guess we just weren’t good enough…(written by Cork)

    http://www.timesheraldonline.com/sports/ci_21004624/ex-raider-davidson-dies-at-age-72

  44. SR Raider Says:

    Too risky to give Branch a big long-term contract. He may not work out in the new scheme. Probably will, but no guarantee

  45. theghostronin79 Says:

    Too risky to give Branch a big long-term contract. He may not work out in the new scheme. Probably will, but no guarantee

    ===================
    Probably explains it all right there.

  46. DutchRaider77 Says:

    Too risky to give Branch a big long-term contract. He may not work out in the new scheme. Probably will, but no guarantee

    ___________________________________________________

    May not be a good comparison, but I was thinking of the Fairey-Niners tagging of Aubrayo Franklin. It worked out well for them.

  47. aig-raiders Says:

    Branch has yet to prove anything for us. If Branch wants to get paid, then perform like an elite safety in this league. Dashon Goldshon (spelling) in SF had more impact plays last season with that D then Branch did. This is why I like Reggie. He is going to hold the line until Branch proves himself with the new regime and scheme this year.

  48. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I wouldn’t be heartbroken if Reggie lets TB33 play out the year for 6.2M. The silver lining is no free cap space to sign unneeded scrub RB’s like C. Benson. I can live with the tradeoff.

    You see Rockstar, I’m coming around to your way of thinking!

    I agree with RockStar. It seems like Reggie is rolling the dice on the franchise tag now, and hopefully we can work out a deal. If he plays well (and if the team does well), I think it can happen. I don’t think Reggie’s going to break the bank on him, however.

    Too risky to give Branch a big long-term contract. He may not work out in the new scheme. Probably will, but no guarantee

    May not be a good comparison, but I was thinking of the Fairey-Niners tagging of Aubrayo Franklin. It worked out well for them.

    ***

    PM crew shows itself well, when the trolls aren’t around!

  49. ohioraider Says:

    raidertbone Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 12:03 pm

    Can’t wait for Reggie’s first camp to start — looks like the inmates will no longer be running the asylum!
    ==============================================
    You got that right. Enough cannot be said about this development. The road back to the Super Bowl begins here.

  50. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Nothing wrong with Reggie taking the cautious “wait & see” approach, especially if we aren’t looking to add anybody in the 2nd wave of free agency next month …

    unfortunately, you can’t predict [training camp & preseason] injuries!

    hopefully Reggie & Dennis are sold on our depth players

  51. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    If Brees is still waiting for a deal, dont see the big deal of Branch waiting.

    Can always tag him again.

    Unless he’s holding up some signings.

  52. RaiderRockstar Says:

    This is why I like Reggie

    ***

    @ AIG

    I think Kell said it best, when he said that Reggie is “smooth as buttermilk”

    LOL

  53. ohioraider Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 12:13 pm

    Cleveland? WTF! What kid ever dreams about growing up and being the QB for the Cleveland Browns

    ***

    @Dutch

    Weeden, Wallace, McCoy ??
    =============================================
    Actually, Bernie Kosar did. Grew up in nearby Boardman and dreamed of playing for the Browns, which he did.

  54. RaiderRockstar Says:

    @Ohio

    I’m a fan of Webster Slaughter. the pride of 209!

  55. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
    @Ohio

    I’m a fan of Webster Slaughter. the pride of 209!
    —————-
    remember wideout Michael Jackson? hehe

  56. Marks hair Says:

    The browns are dlcks…

  57. aig-raiders Says:

    @RRS #52, too funny and true. Reggie is the ultimate dont judge the book by its cover. Dude sounds like a mental disability patient behind the microphone but he sure looks smooth with his decision making process so far. Count me excited. For once, I might buy season tix to nose bleed seats this year.

  58. RaiderRockstar Says:

    remember wideout Michael Jackson?

    ***

    oh yeah, lol

    poor guy – at least MJ was cool back then. before he bleeched himself and started touching little boys

  59. aig-raiders Says:

    I feel sorry for anything out of Ohio and Cleveland, esp in terms of pro franchises. They take the cake for being pissed on by the pros.

  60. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “I feel sorry for anything out of Ohio and Cleveland, esp in terms of pro franchises. They take the cake for being pissed on by the pros.”

    Yeah and their lake even caught on fire poor basturds.

    But the pro football hall of fame is there and so is the rock n roll hall of fame.

  61. aig-raiders Says:

    I have always wondered why they chose Ohio for the rock and football HOF.

  62. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I feel sorry for anything out of Ohio and Cleveland, esp in terms of pro franchises. They take the cake for being pissed on by the pros.

    ***

    I wonder if Dan Gilbert wants to guarantee that the Cavs will win an NBA Championship before LeBron James wins ANOTHER one ??

  63. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I have always wondered why they chose Ohio for the rock and football HOF.

    ***

    Jim Brown & Drew Carey?

  64. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    I wonder if LeBron will make anymore excuses for future life failures..

  65. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    Yo, just pleasured the Beeech Lawg to a little classic Amber Lynn hardcore action on the internet

    There were a couple of shorties in the jacuzzi begging for it, but I was all like – “Nah Shorties, I gots this”

    On the realz, the ESPYS are straight up WACK

    Although I would let Jessica Beal in her little white dress toss my salad

    But the hizzie would probably expect to cuddle and the Beeech Diggity don’t play that unless he’s watching Return of the Jedi

    Ewoks are straight up creepy, word

  66. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Fails to stop at red light… “They didnt surround me with quality brake pads”..

  67. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “Fails to stop at red light… “They didnt surround me with quality brake pads”..

    He could always pull a Huff and blame the scheme.

  68. mcfadden20. Says:

    If it was AD who picked Gordon in 2nd round everybody would jump all over him calling him crazy n stuff but since its some other team , not a big deal

  69. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 2:01 pm
    “Fails to stop at red light… “They didnt surround me with quality brake pads”..

    He could always pull a Huff and blame the scheme.

    —-

    He did.

    He blamed coaches, front office, teammates.. EVERYTHING.

    Then he bailed on the city he guaranteed to bring a Championship.

  70. RaiderRockstar Says:

    trashing the best player in the NBA, fresh off a championship isn’t boldness. it’s ignorance

  71. raider till i die Says:

    No picks good thing can’t wait only a couple more weeks boys then it’s on and cracking man a can’t ffreaking. Wait I really think we have a good team

  72. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
    trashing the best player in the NBA, fresh off a championship isn’t boldness. it’s ignorance

    —-

    Talent doesnt have anything to do with character.

    Considering yourself a Miami Heat fan is more questionable.

  73. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Dont hold superstars accountable, especially ones with rings, because thats just ignorant.

    Interesting.

  74. raider till i die Says:

    Were going undefeated yea hahaha 16-0 yea it’s our year bros

  75. theghostronin79 Says:

    @74 I love it…..

  76. DutchRaider77 Says:

    Were going undefeated yea hahaha 16-0 yea it’s our year bros

    ___________________________________________________

    Not just undefeated, but 16 shut-outs!

  77. The Big Banana Says:

    16-0? All shut-outs? Ok, who laced the koolaid?

  78. The Big Banana Says:

    Aig still here?

  79. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    I like how DJ Williams gave the NFL 3 non human urine samples lol..

  80. theghostronin79 Says:

    16-0? All shut-outs? Ok, who laced the koolaid?

    =======================

    It ain’t koolaid, it’s “Bath Salts”

  81. KoolKell Says:

    The good ole boys, sure protected Sandusky.

  82. bunk moorland Says:

    Whats the differance between acne and Jerry sandusky?

  83. Seymour Bush Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 3:02 pm

    The good ole boys, sure protected Sandusky.
    ===================================

    Something tells me Sandusky was repaying the favor if you know what I mean.

  84. bunk moorland Says:

    acne waits untill your 12 before it comes on your face?

  85. KoolKell Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
    KoolKell Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 3:02 pm

    The good ole boys, sure protected Sandusky.
    ===================================

    Something tells me Sandusky was repaying the favor if you know what I mean.
    ———————————-
    Excuse me, no I don’t?

  86. KoolKell Says:

    But, the good ole boys care about nothing else but the good ole boys. Certainly not the welfare of the people, not even their own children.

  87. bunk moorland Says:

    penn st the only university ware u can major in minors

  88. Sullivan44 Says:

    So, this is where we take all of the Michael Jackson jokes and replace “Michael Jackson” with “Jerry Sandusky”. I see.

    In that case, McDonald’s is coming out with the Sandusky Burger. A 70 year old piece of meat between 12 year old buns.

  89. Raidernationdave Says:

    Wow, good one, pedophile jokes. Molestation victims make the ‘best’ target for jokes.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    bunk moorland Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 3:04 pm

    acne waits untill your 12 before it comes on your face?

  90. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    IDK.

    I think I draw the line at joking about child molestation.

    Sandusky & Michael Jackson are sick.

  91. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    There’s a lot in common between KrappyRat and Sandusky

    They’re both guilty of stalking retired football players at county fairs.

    Oh wait. That’s just KrappyRat.

    My apologies, Mr. Sandusky

  92. Thec Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
    The good ole boys, sure protected Sandusky.

    ++++++++++++

    Truth…

    Makes you wonder why paterno turned a blind eye, as he ran the university.

  93. Sullivan44 Says:

    Kell, it’s insane. All these years people have been watching the guy in the van by the river, so to speak, while it’s the trusted institutions where most of this is going on. Just imagine a few years ago, parents in Pennsylvania getting brochures in the mail for a football camp run by Penn State’s linebacker coach. Who would think anything of it? It’s Penn State! If it’s affordable, why the heck not? This logic has been turned upside down. Jon Ritchie, who played for PSU and Sandusky, said a while back that he will never trust anyone again, anywhere. His entire sense of trust has been warped for good. He’s not alone. Sandusky and Penn State’s victims extend to basically everyone that would otherwise trust a division 1, reputable college school.

  94. Thec Says:

    The Penn st deal was MUCH bigger than just sandusky, tip of the berg….

  95. Thec Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
    I like how DJ Williams gave the NFL 3 non human urine samples lol..

    +++++++++

    Who said dj was human?

  96. Sullivan44 Says:

    Every one of you that has kids that play sports, when the decision to send them to some kind of camp comes up, tell me you’re not going to think of this. That’s the long term effect this has. First the church, now sports. It’s creating a herd cynicism that will change our way of life in this country.

  97. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    Brahs, Sandusky had it exactly right except for 1 small detail -

    Instead of showering with little boys, he should’ve been showering with super wasted strippers with huge fake booblies

    Seriously, that could’ve made all the difference in terms of breaking the law

    Holla

  98. bunk moorland Says:

    The Penn st deal was MUCH bigger than just sandusky, tip of the berg………………………….. im from perry county in pa, you are so right, trustes pimping out kids for donations. give it a month youll hear all about it

  99. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
    Every one of you that has kids that play sports, when the decision to send them to some kind of camp comes up, tell me you’re not going to think of this. That’s the long term effect this has. First the church, now sports. It’s creating a herd cynicism that will change our way of life in this country.

    —-

    That’s because people fail to realize that its everywhere.

    In a culture so relaxed to sexual immorality/permiscuity can people really be surprised??..

  100. Thec Says:

    bunk moorland Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
    The Penn st deal was MUCH bigger than just sandusky, tip of the berg………………………….. im from perry county in pa, you are so right, trustes pimping out kids for donations. give it a month youll hear all about it

    ++++++++++

    I am sure you know waaaaayyyy more about this sitcom than I however, I am not so sure Bruh…

    Most of this schit will be swept away, as some big names are more likely attached to it.

  101. Thec Says:

    Nation training camp in a few weeks…Back to the shadows.

    1 NATION

  102. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    Whenever I’m cruising around town and I see a young boy on one street corner and a wasted stripper on Xstacy on the other, I ALWAYS go hump the stripper

    Life is about choices, brahs. Just follow the Bible of the Beeech Diggity and you’ll spend more time humping, less time going to prison

    USA Rules

  103. Seymour Bush Says:

    Excuse me, no I don’t?
    =============================

    It wouldn’t surprise me if Sandusky was not forwarding some of these kids on to wealthy Penn State “boosters” if you follow me.

  104. bunk moorland Says:

    our gov Tom corbit was the attorny general in 2001, at that time he investigated the recent allagations against sandusky, said there was no evidence to go futher. he was also on the board of trustees

  105. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Houston to amnesty Luis Scola.

  106. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Dwight Howard deal to Houston just took a huge step.

  107. Thec Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 3:28 pm
    Excuse me, no I don’t?
    =============================

    It wouldn’t surprise me if Sandusky was not forwarding some of these kids on to wealthy Penn State “boosters” if you follow me.

    ++++++++++

    Exactly…

  108. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    Usually when I see Peemore Bust trying to seduce a young boy, I head immediately to my nearest Spearmint Rhino to get a free lap dance and an undercover back room BJ

    This is not a joking matter, please make careful choices in life and always remember that USA is #1

  109. Sullivan44 Says:

    Dennis’s visor,

    Are you honestly equating sexual promiscuity amongst consenting adults to a 65 year old man raping children?

  110. Thec Says:

    bunk moorland Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 3:29 pm
    our gov Tom corbit was the attorny general in 2001, at that time he investigated the recent allagations against sandusky, said there was no evidence to go futher. he was also on the board of trustees

    ++++++++++

    They need to peel back the onion on this guy…

    I heard a report/rumor that this was all apart of a giant pedo/sex ring.

  111. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Dont be surprised if Mavericks end up with both Scola & Brand on the amnesty waiver wire.

  112. Thec Says:

    1 NATION

  113. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 3:33 pm
    Dennis’s visor,

    Are you honestly equating sexual promiscuity amongst consenting adults to a 65 year old man raping children?

    —-

    No.

    The mentality about sex in the country now.

    Used to be taboo for High School kids to have sex, now its Junior High… Trending the wrong way.

    Homosexuality, Beastiality, etc.

  114. Seymour Bush Says:

    Speaking of pedo’s, your “step dad” is calling you upstairs biachi.

  115. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    Blog Brahs,

    The last time I saw Peemore Bust teaching a young boy how to ride a tricycle in the nude, I ran straight to the Hustler Club and 69ed a Norwegian stripper in the parking lot

    Doing it the Beeech Dawg way will keep your weiner dog stoked

    Doing it the Bust way will get you sent to the joint and murdered by a vato

    C’mon brahs, you do the math

  116. KoolKell Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 3:33 pm

    Dennis’s visor,

    Are you honestly equating sexual promiscuity amongst consenting adults to a 65 year old man raping children?
    ——————————–
    Making excuses for the good ole boys, sounds like to me.

  117. Sullivan44 Says:

    lol. It hasn’t been taboo for high school kids to have sex in about 60 years.

    I shouldn’t take your bait on the gay/bestiality equation, but just understand that gay players on the Raiders, and there are some, as there are on every pro sports team, very likely do not have sex with animals as well. So your assumption is just off base.

  118. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 3:43 pm
    lol. It hasn’t been taboo for high school kids to have sex in about 60 years.

    I shouldn’t take your bait on the gay/bestiality equation, but just understand that gay players on the Raiders, and there are some, as there are on every pro sports team, very likely do not have sex with animals as well. So your assumption is just off base.

    —-

    All sexual immorality is the same.

    That’s fine if there are gay NFL players, I dont dislike them no more than I dislike the teenagers having pre-marital sex.

  119. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 3:42 pm
    Sullivan44 Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 3:33 pm

    Dennis’s visor,

    Are you honestly equating sexual promiscuity amongst consenting adults to a 65 year old man raping children?
    ——————————–
    Making excuses for the good ole boys, sounds like to me.

    —-

    Who?

  120. FreddieB Says:

    Really, joking about child rape? I don’t know if you could get more inappropriate. Well, I’m sure some of you will try.

  121. Sullivan44 Says:

    I agree with you that all sexual immorality is the same, in your own head. Because your sense of “morality” is your own personal opinion of what’s right or wrong, nothing more.

  122. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Clockin out time.

    Down with [ALL] sexual immorality.

    Deuces.

  123. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    Bro Hams, I’m not saying KrappyRat is a child molester, but he did stalk Bubba Paris at the local county fair

    Again, I’m not saying he’s a child molester

  124. KoolKell Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 3:45 pm
    KoolKell Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 3:42 pm
    Sullivan44 Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 3:33 pm

    Dennis’s visor,

    Are you honestly equating sexual promiscuity amongst consenting adults to a 65 year old man raping children?
    ——————————–
    Making excuses for the good ole boys, sounds like to me.

    —-

    Who?
    ——————–
    You.

  125. Sullivan44 Says:

    If we’ve learned anything in recent history, those the most vehemently against any kind of sexual behavior are typically the ones doing it. Perhaps some insight into Dennis’Visor private life.

  126. bunk moorland Says:

    sandusky defence philosaphy , cover the tight end and get penatration

  127. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 3:48 pm
    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 3:45 pm
    KoolKell Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 3:42 pm
    Sullivan44 Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 3:33 pm

    Dennis’s visor,

    Are you honestly equating sexual promiscuity amongst consenting adults to a 65 year old man raping children?
    ——————————–
    Making excuses for the good ole boys, sounds like to me.

    —-

    Who?
    ——————–
    You.

    —-

    Negative.

  128. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 3:49 pm
    If we’ve learned anything in recent history, those the most vehemently against any kind of sexual behavior are typically the ones doing it. Perhaps some insight into Dennis’Visor private life.

    —-

    God Bless you man.

  129. Sullivan44 Says:

    Hmm. Dennis say’s he’s leaving, comes back to clear things up about his views on sexuality. Another sign…

  130. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    Yo, instead of child molesting you can also write incredible hit songs

    Like this one, celebrating the greatness of the Lakers and my amazing long weiner

    It’s called “GIVE IT UP FOR THE PURPLE N DODE”

    2 Kewl 4 Skool in effect, smoking good hash
    Goin’ for a ring with my homie Steve Nash
    Girl, clear your head, you in a fog
    Now open wide for my mighty Beeeech Lawg

    TAKIN’ IT BACK TO 1983

  131. bunk moorland Says:

    beech who’s your favorite pornstar?

  132. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    70s – connie stevens
    80s – amber lynn
    90s – 00s – jenna jamison
    10s – asa akira

  133. KoolKell Says:

    The Beeech Dawg Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 4:08 pm

    70s – connie stevens
    80s – amber lynn
    90s – 00s – jenna jamison
    10s – asa akira
    —————————-
    Get a life, you masturbatory, boy.

  134. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 4:11 pm

    The Beeech Dawg Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 4:08 pm

    70s – connie stevens
    80s – amber lynn
    90s – 00s – jenna jamison
    10s – asa akira
    —————————-
    Get a life, you masturbatory, boy.

    ——————–

    Like chasing Bubba Paris around the local fair, or dry humping Randy Moss in the Safeway parking lot?

  135. blackandsilverside Says:

    C’mon now, I was born and raised on a ranch. My father made me work for him for free. Of course at that age I wanted to play sports and chase girls and rebelled against forced servitude. At the age of 15, I was strong and tough. My father screamed at me one too many times and I cold cocked him, straight up on the jaw. Took him a few minutes to get up off the ground.

    After that I was free to do what I wanted.

    If Sandusky or JoePa had tried anything on me they would have got the same thing my father got. Everyone, including the parents of the boys, enabled these guys to do what they did.

    When ole JoePa got run down and busted up by a Penn State player, I told my self that old man has had enough.

    To me he was a lot like AD, wasted, demented, and way too old for the job.

    I say, screw them all. I hope Sandusky gets killed in prison.

  136. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    KrappyRat, I respect your decision to make love to the same old bag and her bowl cut for the last 50 years

    But some of us enjoy hot intercourse with amazing strippers and their fake boobs all night long

    I hope you can respect that as well

  137. Seymour Bush Says:

    The Beeech Dawg Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 3:41 pm

    Blog Brahs,

    The last time I saw Peemore Bust teaching a young boy how to ride a tricycle
    ===============================

    Actually biachi, that wasn’t me. That was your “stepdad” and your “Uncle Mike”. Those were the same two guys who told you the stuff coming out of your ass was alfredo sauce. Remember?

  138. KoolKell Says:

    Let’s see what sanctions the NCAA applies to Penn State.

  139. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    Bust, please continue to only cut and paste the part of my post that you’re able to respond to

    We know the rest of it makes you pee your Pampers in fear

    Please keep up the good work Bust, my Blog Brahs and I can’t get enough

  140. MistaBrown Says:

    PeymourGlenn666 king of the trolls, remind us again how we should ignore the trolls and talk football.
    ________

    Seymour Bush Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 4:19 pm

    Actually biachi, that wasn’t me. That was your “stepdad” and your “Uncle Mike”. Those were the same two guys who told you the stuff coming out of your ass was alfredo sauce. Remember?
    ________

    Seymour Bush Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
    Speaking of pedo’s, your “step dad” is calling you upstairs biachi.

  141. blackandsilverside Says:

    hmmmmm……..amazing strippers with big fake boobs.

    Sounds nasty !

    You won’t catch up with many amazing strippers for free, my friend. Bout the only thing you’ll catch is HIV.

  142. MistaBrown Says:

    KK Munster, still no answer from my question yesterday?

  143. Seymour Bush Says:

    It’s OK biachi. all of us here understand what you went thru in light of the Sandusky scandal and why you are attracted sexually to trannies. It all makes sense now.

  144. Seymour Bush Says:

    Jamista Clown!!!! The blog moron! Whitey still keeping you down Jamista?

  145. MistaBrown Says:

    PeymourGlenn666 king of the trolls, remind us again how we should ignore the trolls and talk football.
    ________

    Seymour Bush Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 4:28 pm

    It’s OK biachi. all of us here understand what you went thru in light of the Sandusky scandal and why you are attracted sexually to trannies. It all makes sense now.

  146. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 4:28 pm

    It’s OK biachi. all of us here understand what you went thru in light of the Sandusky scandal and why you are attracted sexually to trannies. It all makes sense now.

    ———

    Gee, Bust – I didn’t mean to make you meltdown so quick! Kinda wanted to string you along for awhile, as usual.

    Ooops

  147. Seymour Bush Says:

    Sure biachi. Don’t cry to “daddy”….

  148. Seymour Bush Says:

    Oh no, now Jamista is just going to keep repeating the same thing over and over. Like KK. And biachi…..is it some type of blog dumb guy disease?

  149. MistaBrown Says:

    PeymourGlenn666 king of the trolls, remind us again how we should ignore the trolls and talk football.
    _______

    Seymour Bush Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 4:36 pm

    Sure biachi. Don’t cry to “daddy”….

  150. Seymour Bush Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 4:37 pm

    Oh no, now Jamista is just going to keep repeating the same thing over and over. Like KK. And biachi…..is it some type of blog dumb guy disease?

  151. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    Peemore Bust just copied and pasted his own post

    Definitely a blog first. Meltdown complete!

  152. Seymour Bush Says:

    Sorry you didn’t understand it, biachi. But humor is a form of intelligence. Now, your “step daddy” and “Uncle Mike” want you back in the basement for a game of “Call of Duty”

  153. MistaBrown Says:

    LOL

    Peymour you pathetic moron!
    haha

  154. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    Brahs, feeling inspired by that hilarious smackdown of Peemore Bust, so I decided to write a dope hip hop jam about my awesome ding dong

    This one is called “USA & My Weiner Are #1″

    Gonna High 5 Uncle Sam
    Between two strippers, what a jam
    Shout out to the Red, White & Blue
    My dode is so awesome, you know dats true

    STRAIGHT PIMPIN’

  155. Raidernationdave Says:

    asa akira

    Great body but has a face only a mother could love

    ++++++++++++++++++

    The Beeech Dawg Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 4:08 pm

    70s – connie stevens
    80s – amber lynn
    90s – 00s – jenna jamison
    10s – asa akira

  156. MistaBrown Says:

    Peymour, when you copy & paste your own comment but forget to log into your alias to give yourself props oyu know you hit a new low.
    _______

    Seymour Bush Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 4:39 pm

    Seymour Bush Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 4:37 pm

    Oh no, now Jamista is just going to keep repeating the same thing over and over. Like KK. And biachi…..is it some type of blog dumb guy disease?

  157. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    “Humor is a form of intelligence”
    - Peemore Bust

    This will go down in the Blog Hall of Shame next to:

    “I’m a lady’s man”
    - KrappyKell

  158. Seymour Bush Says:

    Jamista maybe I can have a three year old explain it to you since you STILL don’t get it. But maybe this will help, we’re not laughing with you, we’re laughing AT you.

  159. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    or 2 thuggin’ black dudes!

    http://www.xvideos.com/video438941/asa_akira_two_black

    ———————–

    Raidernationdave Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 4:48 pm

    asa akira

    Great body but has a face only a mother could love

    ++++++++++++++++++

    The Beeech Dawg Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 4:08 pm

    70s – connie stevens
    80s – amber lynn
    90s – 00s – jenna jamison
    10s – asa akira

  160. Seymour Bush Says:

    And biachi goes riding off into the sunset beaten to a pulp, so he can get ridden off into the sunset by “Step Dad” and “Uncle Mike”. Have fun biachi!

  161. Plunketthead Says:

    It was a little slow but I enjoyed the blog while the trolls and the blog pimps were on forced vacation.

    Funny how everyones vacation time came due at the same time.

  162. Raidernationdave Says:

    Denarius Moore, Darrius Heyward-Bey, Jacoby Ford, Juron Criner – sounds like a line-up that might actually make some shiz happen in the nizzie!

  163. Seymour Bush Says:

    Good. Now that the clowns are gone maybe we can talk some football.

  164. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Raider Nation-Station

    NOW!~ NEW BLOOD pt. 4
    DB Brandon Underwood is the poster child for Oaklands New Era Raiders. Find out why and what his success or failure could mean to the team and our chances for play off glory now, or later…

    http://www.raidernationstation.com/raider_huddle

    ———-

    I’m not sure Undewoods that important but the analytics part makes perfect sense.

    We really are a cutting edge team now! What a drastic change fromn the Davis era!

  165. Nnamdi21 Says:

    162. No doubt! For the first time since Brown and Rice we got WRs AND for the first time since Gannon we got a QB!

  166. KoolKell Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 7:30 pm

    Good. Now that the clowns are gone maybe we can talk some football.
    —————–
    You arnd BrownStains can go on for hours.

  167. Seymour Bush Says:

    Underwood might be OK at the 3rd or 4th spot, but Pat Lee should challenge the starters.

  168. KoolKell Says:

    Just look. Up the board

  169. Seymour Bush Says:

    You arnd BrownStains can go on for hours.
    ==============================

    Yeah, it’s boring too. Jamista is just such a moron on so many levels I just can’t let it go by until I run his fat ass out of here.

  170. xraided Says:

    dave

    no doubt sir. with NAPALMER gunning them on intermediate quick strikes, to short/long cross field routes, and deep track team speed routes for long TDs(something that for some reason went unnoticed by every Raider hater and non-fans alike in the the world)… these receivers will benefit greatly, as he will from them.

    everyone remembers when TO and ochostinko were benched on his own instructions two years go, right? it’s hard for me to forget it since it wasn’t that long ago.

    CP3 rolled with: Shipley, Gresham, Simpson, & Caldwell

    that was his rotation for the last part of the season, which he then started getting win after win with a big arm.

    so that was 2010, and last year we all know what happened. good games, with only a few bad games(that’s what happens when a tard like Hue throws someone in a moving vehicle) … what did people expect him to do?=

    when you throw in the fact that Hue Jackson SUCKED AT PLAY CALLING, and not to mention, were the most penalized team in NFL history(esp. on defense which also killed Palmer’s chances for a playoff birth) … i like the man’s chances in a modern day WCO with these very skilled, young receivers.

    minimizing his INT’s, cutting down on false starts, and getting the ball out quickly before a big hit, will FOR ONCE help a RAIDER QB to be a top 10 talent in the NFL.

  171. KoolKell Says:

    The Raiders are one of the most penalized teams, year in and year out since I was a kid 50 yrs ago.

    Hue Jackson traded for Carson Palmer

    The Raider offense was exciting, even without DMAC

  172. KoolKell Says:

    All the Hue Haters, give Bresnahan a free pass. They don’t want to blame Al Davis’ DC.

  173. Seymour Bush Says:

    One of the more interesting things about this offense is Knapp, Kubiak and Dennison used Schaub much more athletically than you would have thought. And they plan to do the same thing here with Palmer. I think it’s a good idea. Palmer is more athletic than most will give him credit for.

  174. Seymour Bush Says:

    All the Hue Haters, give Bresnahan a free pass.
    =============================

    No, we hold Jackson responsible because he did nothing to help the defense. He just watched it go down the loo while he was getting his nails done.

  175. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    I will tell you another reason why I like this pick up of Underwood. OSU does a good job of developing DBs for the pros. They are fast, they have to cover, but in the Big 10 you have to be physical as well. You better know how to lower your shoulder and make a tackle or you get embarassed guick!!!

    OSU said he was one of the most talented DBs to come through OSU. The down fall is he did not want to be student and flunked out of OSU. So he finished his college career at Cincinnati (6′1, 4.48 40X, 36 1/2 vertical jump. coming out of college).

    Yeah man Reggie does his research! That is why Greenbay picked him up. Small risk, why not?

    ——————————————————–
    164.Nnamdi21 Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 7:37 pm
    Raider Nation-Station

    NOW!~ NEW BLOOD pt. 4
    DB Brandon Underwood is the poster child for Oaklands New Era Raiders. Find out why and what his success or failure could mean to the team and our chances for play off glory now, or later…

    http://www.raidernationstation.com/raider_huddle

    ———-

    I’m not sure Undewoods that important but the analytics part makes perfect sense.

    We really are a cutting edge team now! What a drastic change fromn the Davis era!

  176. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    Brandon Underwood – Greenbay – Draft Pick write up.

    http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/article/20090426/PKR01/90426058/CB-Brandon-Underwood-s-athletic-talent-never-question

  177. xraided Says:

    yes Hue had NO IDEA how defenses worked… it was painfully obvious. that’s not what a true NFL HC is like, is it?

    even better question ….why isn’t he running the show anywhere else ?!

    what’s not his fault was chucky B’s hiring, and he couldn’t very well drop him mid season and get anyone better … he was stuck with the man

    the COMBINATION of that ineptitude between the two now busted down HC’s is why we didn’t make the playoffs like we should have.

    i believe that changes this year. DA, Knapp and Tarver won’t be the best, but they’ll score a lot of points and prevent more big plays than the worst defense of all time did in 2011…

    that much i know.

  178. xraided Says:

    *busted down coaches

    not HC’s

  179. Seymour Bush Says:

    Underwood is a bit of a problem. He got booted out of Ohio State because he couldn’t make grades, and has had more than one run in with the law, at least one charge that was pretty serious. Underwood has to straighten his ass out.

  180. Seymour Bush Says:

    Pat Lee is a high draft choice that had Woodson playing in front of him. He has played well in big games. Lee I think has a chance here.

  181. xraided Says:

    SB,

    we’ve seen jail bird players at least be solid contributors ala Plax and even Simpson(mr. front flip TD) for the Bungholes… just to name a couple

    if he can be a good nickle CB or contribute on ST’s … then so be it.

  182. xraided Says:

    Lee does, i agree. better than Underwood, DVD, or even Spencer at this point. hopefully he’s a good value signing and can contribute solid coverage in any scheme.

    i’m really not worried about Bartell. we will see how he does when he puts his neck into big tackles … if it will hold up or not. barring that train wreck, they may have struck FA gold with him.

  183. Seymour Bush Says:

    Pat Lee has been bit by the injury bug. When he is healthy he plays well. Hopefully Underwood can concentrate on football, and get serious. If so, he can be a very good player.

  184. xraided Says:

    Bartell stayed on Fitzgerald’s hip day in and day out for how many years? Fitz said it himself that Bartell was his most dreaded rival 2 times a year throughout his HOF career.

  185. Sullivan44 Says:

    Al may be gone, but his worshipers are alive and well, and so is the message. Check out the carefully worded comments, blaming Hue Jackson for last year’s defense instead of Al’s guy, Breshnehan, who already dismantled one good Raider’s defense a decade ago.

  186. blackandsilverside Says:

    AD in his latter years was a burned out hack: a shell of a man caught in the NFL the way it was 40 yrs ago. The main problem the past decade, besides AD, with the Raiders is that the staff lacked expertise in the requirements to play football in the NFL.

    For instance, to all the Nnamdi lovers out there: most in this blog, including Corky swore and be damned that Nnamdi was a “shut down” corner. Nnamdi was mediocre at best. Did Nnamdi impact the Raiders whatsoever in his 8 seasons? No. Actually Nnamdi is on the lower tier of CBs and won’t even be remembered after he retires. 11 INT’s in 9 seasons?? Gio had 5 last season as a backup end. The most that can be said about Nnamdi is that he is a “no shut down, shut down” corner.

    Now consider Raw Lewis. He personally, through talent and strength of will to win, pulled the Ravens up by the bootstraps and made them Superbowl contenders every year for the past 12 years. Nnamdi can’t even compare to Ray Lewis in terms of impact, talent, and charisma.

    I believe in Reggie and his staff; I feel they know the level of game, commitment and force of will required to win in the NFL.

    Now we had a pimp last year for HC. The year before that we had a brawler who broke his assistant’s jaw. Before that we had an odd collection of underperforming staff and a fat, dumb, purple drank sipping slug, whose only skill was the ability to throw a football 80 yards in the air.

    Most importantly, we had AD tied around our neck, like a putrifying anchor, totally out of it.

    Have patience friends, the Raiders will be back.

  187. Seymour Bush Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 8:25 pm

    Al may be gone, but his worshipers are alive and well, and so is the message. Check out the carefully worded comments, blaming Hue Jackson for last year’s defense instead of Al’s guy, Breshnehan, who already dismantled one good Raider’s defense a decade ago.
    ==================================

    You blamed Al for years, because he was the head guy. But you don’t want to blame Jackson because he was the head guy. That doesn’t make sense. What are you afraid Al was going to come back from the grave like a zombie looking to munch on brains?

  188. Sullivan44 Says:

    If Hue Jackson were allowed to pick his own staff last year, the defense has to be better, considering the patch work, Davis minion defensive staff he was stuck with. Raiders probably end season 2 games better, which would put them at 10-6.

  189. Sullivan44 Says:

    Al was there for part of the season last year, Seymour. I’d say a GM that has total control of personnel being with a team until October can certainly share some of the blame in them missing the playoffs.

  190. xraided Says:

    it was a combo of everything kept the Raiders out of the playoffs ..

    i’m an Al fan, as any Raider fan should be… it would be idiotic not to be, seeing as the majority of this team that is about to blow it up in 2012 consists of primarily AL DAVIS HAND PICKED PLAYERS ….

    the man IS THE RAIDERS … you don’t have to be a diehard Al lover or even a fan to know this. Haters knew it… and his legend is here and will remain.

    with that said, his selection for our 2011 DC, Chucky B, was a complete bust and cost this team the playoffs. he wasn’t in the league when Al hired him, and isn’t now or ever will be again! that is a fact, whether you hate Al for it or not.

    every owner/GM in any sport makes the same kind of mistakes … so over all Al Davis is a top 3 football mind of all time.

    RIP AL DAVIS

  191. Sullivan44 Says:

    Seymour, nobody was afraid of Al. You poor thing.

  192. Sullivan44 Says:

    xraided,

    Now wait a minute…

    Seymour is saying that Al can’t be blamed for last year’s season because he was dead, and that Hue was the man. Now you’re saying that if we have a good season this year, it’s because of Al?

    This is why you Davis worshipers are just a boat load, man. You guys will contradict each other more often than not. We can just sit back and eat pop corn.

  193. Seymour Bush Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 8:29 pm

    If Hue Jackson were allowed to pick his own staff last year, the defense has to be better,
    ========================================

    That’s the point, the defense continued to get worse and worse. GB could have put up triple digits on us if they didn’t scale back. Miami pasted us. By that time Davis was cold and in the ground. Hard to blame a guy cold and dead for a team getting worse and worse when live coaches are getting their nails done.

  194. xraided Says:

    189.

    it was a mixture of all that.

    that’s what is the encouraging part, is it not?

    this team has stability from blue collar players brought on, mixed with a great core of NFL talent speed demons thanks to the Al Davis … his picks from from the last 3 or 4 drafts will cash in this upcoming season…

    why else do you all think BigMac is savin up money and not free spending? he wants to be able to retain his current BEASTY roster in the near future.

    man i’m goin OFF TONIGHT! STOKED FOR RAIDER FOOTBALL

    JUST WIN BABY!

  195. Seymour Bush Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 8:33 pm

    Seymour, nobody was afraid of Al. You poor thing.
    ===============================

    Huh? You been drinking?

  196. xraided Says:

    and yes .. Hue traded for CP3 .. we will all thank him after this seasons end … BOOK IT

  197. Sullivan44 Says:

    I’ve been a Raider fan since before most people who comment here were born, and I was no fan of Al Davis. The Gruden trade was the dumbest sports related decision ever made by any team’s upper management in the history of professional sports. Notice that it divided the Raider Nation in half. Before Gruden, the nation was never divided. Not over the L.A. move, not over Marcus Allen. Gruden trade was the straw that broke the camel’s back. The loyalist fan boys stood by Al, everyone else couldn’t wait for him to leave. I’d hate to see him leave the way he did, but nonetheless, the organization is far better for it.

  198. Seymour Bush Says:

    Gruden hasn’t been picked up by anyone. What does that tell you? Al was a genius for fleecing the Glazers for that hack. Gruden is better in the MNF booth.

  199. xraided Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 8:35 pm
    Sullivan44 Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 8:29 pm

    If Hue Jackson were allowed to pick his own staff last year, the defense has to be better,
    ========================================

    That’s the point, the defense continued to get worse and worse. GB could have put up triple digits on us if they didn’t scale back. Miami pasted us. By that time Davis was cold and in the ground. Hard to blame a guy cold and dead for a team getting worse and worse when live coaches are getting their nails done.

    _________________________

    yes it’s the truth.

    i was at the DET game when i catched Megatron TROUT DOWN FIELD SLOWLY against a constant out of position defense that couldn’t even get a pick in triple coverage…

    he caught all 3 of his TD’s right in front of me, including the game sealer after that 99 yd drive.

    ITS OKAY THOUGH! why?

    Tarver will blitz a lot like Marshall did… at least we killed our division with all that blitzing… that depends a lot of SHO-nasty, he’s our Aldon Smith here across the bay… we need that man badly just as the Whiners need that stab victim.

  200. xraided Says:

    by Tarver i mean Dennis Allen

  201. Seymour Bush Says:

    And that was ANOTHER of the long line of league rule changes because of Al. Now you can’t trade coaches anymore. Another Hall of Fame fleecing…

  202. Seymour Bush Says:

    Tarver, Allen and McKenzie all realized we needed better play in the secondary. Hue Jackson couldn’t figure that out for some reason.

  203. xraided Says:

    grr catched Megatron? i’m typing too fast

  204. Raidernationdave Says:

    Amen brother, preach it!

    ______________________

    Nnamdi21 Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 7:40 pm

    162. No doubt! For the first time since Brown and Rice we got WRs AND for the first time since Gannon we got a QB!

  205. Seymour Bush Says:

    Expect both Moore and DHB to be better this year.

  206. xraided Says:

    better play calling especially though. Routt would have been much better following the best receiver around all day … him in zone coverage was as bad as DeWAHngelo Hall in press coverage

  207. xraided Says:

    remember that opening MNF game against the Donko’s at home with Hall? that was EVERY GAME last season with our putrid play calling… this secondary will be sound and not allow all the big plays they did last year(#1 in the NFL, right?)

  208. J-Raider Says:

    are any of you guys as worried as i am about our back-up running back position?? i have high doubts that a jones/goodson back-up tandem will be enough if/when dmac gets hurt.. shouldnt we have a guy behind dmac that can pound the rock 20-30 times a game for knapps run first offensive play style????

  209. The Realist Dirty Raccoon Says:

    Good evenin my Raider Brothers.

  210. Seymour Bush Says:

    Goodson is a very solid under the radar signing for us. He has excellent running skills, is a solid receiver and very much understands the game. Do we need one more ball carrier? Sure. And we will find one.

  211. To Yo or not to Yo Says:

    I see today was tag-team wrestling, no doubt. Dry humpin, ho pimpin, yeah this is the Raider blog Jer created for Raider chat. When you got to pick your one eyed trouser snake off the floor, better make sure you dont step on it first.

  212. Thats what she Says:

    Hahahahahahahahahahah

  213. Big bong is a foot long Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 8:41 pm
    Gruden hasn’t been picked up by anyone. What does that tell you? Al was a genius for fleecing the Glazers for that hack. Gruden is better in the MNF booth.
    _________________________________________________

    Gruden woulda been nothin without Al. It is only co-incidence he met Al in the Super Bowl. Gruden took Dungys’ team and got them over the hump. Gruden got lucky, he was in the right place at the right time. Anybody else woulda ate his balls for breakfast, and slurped his bunghole for dessert. Al trusted Callahan way to much.

  214. KoolKell Says:

    Unbelievable, people blaming Hue Jackson for Al Davis’s defense and Al Davis’s Defensive Coordinator.

    As if Hue Jackson was able to re-vamp the Defense mid-season.

  215. xraided Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 8:39 pm
    I’ve been a Raider fan since before most people who comment here were born, and I was no fan of Al Davis. The Gruden trade was the dumbest sports related decision ever made by any team’s upper management in the history of professional sports. Notice that it divided the Raider Nation in half. Before Gruden, the nation was never divided. Not over the L.A. move, not over Marcus Allen. Gruden trade was the straw that broke the camel’s back. The loyalist fan boys stood by Al, everyone else couldn’t wait for him to leave. I’d hate to see him leave the way he did, but nonetheless, the organization is far better for it.

    __________________________

    Gruden told Al he wanted to leave and go home to FL with his family, etc … Al got picks out of him … went to a superbowl anyway without him. Gruden inherited a team NOT BUILT HIMSELF AT ALL(Dungy’s work) … and beat the Raiders with the same playbook.

    what did CHUCKY do since with TB? one playoff appearance in nearly a decade?! he can’t build teams.

    people say he brought in Gannon and Rice … but that was more of Bruce Allen as our GM than anything else.

    all in all, Al gave the man what he wanted and he bit us in the azz. had it been anyone else but Gruden coaching in the SB, we would have a 4th ring.

  216. xraided Says:

    Gannon lived off of short and intermediate throws … we dont have Rice or Brown, but we have players capable of separating in those same kind of routes, and CP3 has quick arm to get it to them on time like Gannon did. MVP? probably not, but top 10′ish stats? hell yes.

    DHB with his hook routes and cross overs, Ford in the slot, Moore streaking down field … throw in Criner over the middle and a combo DMC/Reece out of the backfield, there’s no way our QB will fail.

  217. Big bong is a foot long Says:

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82a818aa/article/carson-palmers-reworked-deal-gives-raiders-cap-help?module=HP11_content_stream

  218. KoolKell Says:

    Why the hell did Davis fire John Marshall?

  219. Big bong is a foot long Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
    Unbelievable, people blaming Hue Jackson for Al Davis’s defense and Al Davis’s Defensive Coordinator.

    As if Hue Jackson was able to re-vamp the Defense mid-season.
    _______________________________

    Coach Davis hired these people to get it done. They did not get it done. Its that simple, end of story. Good nite and dont let the bed bugs bite.

  220. Big bong is a foot long Says:

    Coach Davis drafted great players. The coaches he hired were yes men who took his money and groomed their egos.

  221. DJ Johnny Says:

    209.The Realist Dirty Raccoon Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 9:04 pm
    Good evenin my Raider Brothers.

    Evening RDR.

    What’s goin’ on?

  222. KoolKell Says:

    Big Bong Is A Foot Long Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 9:27 pm
    KoolKell Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
    Unbelievable, people blaming Hue Jackson for Al Davis’s defense and Al Davis’s Defensive Coordinator.

    As if Hue Jackson was able to re-vamp the Defense mid-season.
    _______________________________

    Coach Davis hired these people to get it done. They did not get it done. Its that simple, end of story. Good nite and dont let the bed bugs bite.
    —————-
    He obviously hired the wrong people, you’re right

  223. KoolKell Says:

    Of course Al could only hire people willing to work for him.

  224. Seymour Bush Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 9:27 pm

    Why the hell did Davis fire John Marshall?
    =================================

    Because John Marshall was Tom Cable’s guy.

  225. xraided Says:

    didn’t mean to start a war

    but you guys shouldn’t argue about it…

    he was GOOD AND BAD..just like every owner/GM/HC/position coach in EVERY SPORT!

    he had good qualities, such as DRAFTING, despite popular belief.

    he’s had horrible coaching hires in the past decade… there’s hit pitfalls.

    there, happy everyone?

  226. J-Raider Says:

    my top 5 areas of concern for our team as it stands:

    1. defense/linebackers- mcclain isnt cutting it, curry and wheeler are our best linebackers (thats not a good thing) we have a good up and comer in burris and possibly stupar, but both are raw rookies.

    2. offense/back-up running back- jones is too small to be an every down back although i think he is an excellent change of pace back, goodson is a huge question mark to be trusted as a reliable back-up option(in case of dmac injury)

    3. offense/tight end- myers isnt a bad temporary fix in a pinch, but for the entire season ??? ausberry looks like a vernon davis-type tight end threat, but with only 2 catches for 14 yards to date, he is very raw and unproven.

    4. defense/secondary- although we “shored up” our cornerback position with the additions of spencer and bartell, we dont really have much reliable depth behind them other than the obvious ( dvd, checkwa ) and even they arent completely reliable options to be an every down player in case of an injury. spencer hasnt played well of late and bartell is coming off a neck injry, both could be ok and both could also flop – gio and mitchell are our replacements behind branch and huff (i think they should be fine)

    5. cap space- this is my least area of concern for a reason, reggie! i think we are in good hands and headed in the right direction, but as it stands we arent looking too great (under 1 mil.) we need cap space more than ever right now to bring in depth, but that wont happen unless there are more restructures or branch signs long-term.

  227. KoolKell Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 9:36 pm
    KoolKell Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 9:27 pm

    Why the hell did Davis fire John Marshall?
    =================================

    Because John Marshall was Tom Cable’s guy.
    ——————-
    Oh, that’s a good reason to fire the DC of the #5 Defense in favor of Chuck Bresnahan. NOT

  228. xraided Says:

    Al Davis made a super bowl appearance since the switch to the new century … how many other owners can say that? i’ll give you all a hint, not ANY OF THE 3 teams in our division…

  229. Seymour Bush Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 9:22 pm

    Unbelievable, people blaming Hue Jackson for Al Davis’s defense and Al Davis’s Defensive Coordinator.

    As if Hue Jackson was able to re-vamp the Defense mid-season.
    ============================================

    Mike McCoy and John Fox revamped their offense with a total piece of crap and took a 2-5 team and then went 6-3 and got in the playoffs. It’s what good coaches do.

  230. KoolKell Says:

    Xraided Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 9:37 pm
    didn’t mean to start a war

    but you guys shouldn’t argue about it…

    he was GOOD AND BAD..just like every owner/GM/HC/position coach in EVERY SPORT!

    he had good qualities, such as DRAFTING, despite popular belief.

    he’s had horrible coaching hires in the past decade… there’s hit pitfalls.

    there, happy everyone?
    —————-
    Yeah!

  231. xraided Says:

    #5 def in 2010? our run D was still dead last basically.

    our pass D was very decent, even though the worst run D masked that play, even with Ass-omugha …

    our sack totals were tied for 2nd .. that’s what counted against our division all 6 times … we can match that again with a healthy, blitz happy defense. another thing i’m excited about. our LB and DB play will benefit from it like they did with Marshall.

  232. KoolKell Says:

    #229

    Did they change horses mid stream?

    No.

  233. xraided Says:

    i do hand it to John Fox. kind of scared of that coaching staff now with Jack Del Rio… kinda hard to write off … they will be our competition to the division title in 2012.

    but smart money says Manning’s alien head will be broken off that busted neck of his before they catch any steam. no more Mr. Jesus to help this time…

  234. Seymour Bush Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 9:43 pm

    #229

    Did they change horses mid stream?

    No.
    ===================================

    Of course they did. They changed everything a lot more than we would have had to.

  235. KoolKell Says:

    They didn’t change schemes mid-year.

  236. DJ Johnny Says:

    I realy don’t understand the Hue “hate” on here. What is it about him that elicits such disdain?

    He didn’t win enough games? He took the job held by the beloved Tom Cable? What is it?

    I do not believe he was fake crying after the Houston game, or that everything he did was an act.

    Watch his reaction after Jano hits that game winner against KC. He was emotionally drained.

    He wanted to win more than anybody. He did the best he could.

    It seems everyone wants to villify him cuz as a 1st yr. HC he didn’t win a Super Bowl.

    Yeah he made some questionable decisions…what coach hasn’t?….especially 1st yr. HC’s.?

    I don’t get why guys feel he was a “liar” and a “snake oil salesman”. Is it cuz he said he was gonna fix the penalty ‘issue’ and he didn’t? What coach ever has for the Raiders?

    I feel bad for the guy. He put his heart and soul into the Raiders. I’ll never believe he was “faking” it.

    His Raider tenure was .500. There have been a heck of alot worse for us who get way less “hate” than Hue.

    I don’t buy that he was an insincere “liar” and “charlatan”.

    Most of you disagree with me on that. So be it and we move on.

  237. Seymour Bush Says:

    xraided Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 9:46 pm

    i do hand it to John Fox. kind of scared of that coaching staff now with Jack Del Rio…
    =====================================

    Exactly. Fox put together a tremendous young staff over there. One of the killer moves from Reggie Mac was to raid the Dungver staff of one of their fab young minds. So Fox went out and got someone else super good. Reggie liked Al. Fox hated Al. Game within the game.

  238. Seymour Bush Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 9:52 pm

    They didn’t change schemes mid-year.
    =======================================

    Of course they did. They went from a WCO Orton offense to a read option with Teblow. Completely different offense.

  239. J-Raider Says:

    over/under dmac starts 10 games this year???

  240. blackandsilverside Says:

    DJ,

    Hue wasn’t any of those things you named. He was a pimp!

  241. Seymour Bush Says:

    J-Raider Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 10:04 pm

    over/under dmac starts 10 games this year???
    =================================

    even money right there. I am going with the Dmac starts 11 games in 2012.

  242. blackandsilverside Says:

    Regarding our defense: it takes no genius to know that when corners are running with WR’s, corners are supposed to read WR’s body language as to the incoming pass. All you have to do then, is leverage out position with your body and stick your hand up to knock the ball away.

    We couldn’t even do that! Why do you think Rod Woodson, at season’s end ran like hell with his tail between his legs?

    And as to fat azz Richard Seymour, he did nothing except catch personal fouls, marching us the wrong way down the field.

    Reggie should have held a news conference and canned him the day the season was, in a double up with Hue.

  243. blackandsilverside Says:

    DMAC is out on or before game 8, never to wear a Raiders’ uniform again.

  244. KoolKell Says:

    J-Raider Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 10:04 pm

    over/under dmac starts 10 games this year???
    ——————–
    Over.

  245. KoolKell Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 10:01 pm
    KoolKell Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 9:52 pm

    They didn’t change schemes mid-year.
    =======================================

    Of course they did. They went from a WCO Orton offense to a read option with Teblow. Completely different offense.
    ————————-
    Alrighty then. Tebow ran over the Raider D.

  246. Raider O Says:

    DJ,

    I don’t hate Hue, but he was just as good as cable (8-8). His team led the league in penalties and yards, lost 4 of his last 5 games, had a bad defense that couldnt stop the run or pass (Al died, and they had more than enough time to adjust), and he made a lot of promises with no results.
    You can’t blame the Lions loss im AL when all we had to do is stop one player, and we couldn’t do that. Our MLB and backup SS covering one of the best WRs in the game (6′5, 230, fast, and catches everything in his zone) in the last 2 mins?!?!

  247. Raider O Says:

    On* AL….

  248. KoolKell Says:

    Tom Cable had the # 5 Defense in the league, led by John Marshall,

  249. KoolKell Says:

    Al fired Tom Cable & John Marshall.

  250. KoolKell Says:

    Al was sub .500 since 1989, the first year of Free Agency. All Hue Jackson’s fault.

  251. Try Some Reality Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 10:41 pm

    Al was sub .500 since 1989, the first year of Free Agency. All Hue Jackson’s fault.

    =========================

    LMAO

  252. DJ Johnny Says:

    246.Raider O Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 10:31 pm
    DJ,

    I don’t hate Hue, but he was just as good as cable (8-8). His team led the league in penalties and yards, lost 4 of his last 5 games, had a bad defense that couldnt stop the run or pass (Al died, and they had more than enough time to adjust), and he made a lot of promises with no results.
    You can’t blame the Lions loss im AL when all we had to do is stop one player, and we couldn’t do that. Our MLB and backup SS covering one of the best WRs in the game (6′5, 230, fast, and catches everything in his zone) in the last 2 mins?!?!

    I hear you O. I don’t dispute that he made alot of mistakes that cost the team. Alot of the criticism I’ve heard goes beyond his abilities..or lack thereof as a head coach and into the idea that he’s a bad person…a “liar” and worse.

    Was he self promoting? I guess.

    Let’s face it. All coaches are “liars” to some degree. If a coach says he’s gonna fix something and it turns out he doesn’t…does it make him a liar? I don’t see Hue as being more aggregious than anyone else in that regard.

    I did feel that he wanted it as bad as any of us and did what he felt would get us more wins. He definitely made some wrong decisions, but imo he wasn’t a “bad guy”.

  253. Raider O Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 10:41 pm
    Al was sub .500 since 1989, the first year of Free Agency. All Hue Jackson’s fault.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
    No he wasn’t!
    89: 8-8
    90: 12-4
    91: 9-7
    93: 10-6
    94: 9-7
    95: 8-8
    98: 8-8
    99: 8-8
    00: 12-4
    01: 10-6
    02: 11-5 (SB)
    You do realize that sub .500 is anything below 8-8 (7-8, 6-10, etc..)?

  254. KoolKell Says:

    You do realize that 2002 was 10 years ago, O?

  255. Raider O Says:

    2010: 8-8
    2011: 8-8

  256. Raider O Says:

    I’m not saying he was good the last 2 decades, but he wasn’t “sub .500 since 1989″ as you claim.

  257. KoolKell Says:

    Raider O Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 11:06 pm
    I’m not saying he was good the last 2 decades, but he wasn’t “sub .500 since 1989″ as you claim.
    —————-
    Yes he was. Numbers don’t lie.

  258. Raider O Says:

    DJ,

    Cable was hired as the OL/ assistant HC in Seattle, and Hue is a DB coach in Cinci. Think about it bro.

  259. Raider O Says:

    Raider O Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 11:00 pm
    KoolKell Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 10:41 pm
    Al was sub .500 since 1989, the first year of Free Agency. All Hue Jackson’s fault.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
    No he wasn’t!
    89: 8-8
    90: 12-4
    91: 9-7
    93: 10-6
    94: 9-7
    95: 8-8
    98: 8-8
    99: 8-8
    00: 12-4
    01: 10-6
    02: 11-5 (SB)
    2010: 8-8
    2011: 8-8
    You do realize that sub .500 is anything below 8-8 (7-8, 6-10, etc..)?
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    KoolKell Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 11:07 pm
    Raider O Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 11:06 pm
    I’m not saying he was good the last 2 decades, but he wasn’t “sub .500 since 1989″ as you claim.
    —————-
    Yes he was. Numbers don’t lie.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Can you read?

  260. Try Some Reality Says:

    I’ll admit, I was a big Hue fan. Like what he did with the O. Made a pretty decent Soup with limited ingredients.

    But let’s fact it. The penalties were unacceptable, despite whatever handcuffs Al puts on his coaches. Setting a record in penalties is despicable. Some of his in-game decision making was off and he whipped out his crank a little too often in games. Going for a TD on 4th and goal when a FG will ice the game is ridiculous. The final transgression was that he conducted himself poorly to finish out the year and flexed his muscles a bit much. I think this is what did him in, honestly. Yes, Reggie may have wanted his guy, but had Hue been in good graces with Mark, he may have insisted with the new GM that Hue be given another year or two. Hue saying that he wanted input on selecting the GM and wanted someone in line with his thinking/plan was the nail in the coffin.

    There’s a reason he didn’t get a sniff from other teams and is back with his buds in Cincy, folks.

    Water under the bridge. Let’s move on with DA and Co.

  261. Try Some Reality Says:

    The entire Raider Nation knew Chuck B was bad news from the outset last year. Bad move by Al.

  262. KoolKell Says:

    O, your numbers go from 1989 – 2002 then you skip to 2010. C’mon dude, don’t insult me, asking if I can read.

    Do you really think this is the first time I’ve gone over these numbers?

  263. DJ Johnny Says:

    I agree O. He didn’t get the job done and he’s not considered to be HC material by most. I’m just talking about the perception of him being this lying no good snake oil salesman.

    I think the guy did the best job he could based on his abilities…which apparently wasn’t good enough.

    When I think of ‘bad guy’ Raider HC’s I think of a guy like Lane Kiffin who left the Univ. of Tenn. in shambles…Talk about “snake oil salesman”. You could argue that Cable was a worse guy for hitting Randy Hanson in the face and cheating on his spouse. I say that and I don’t dislike Cable per se.

  264. KoolKell Says:

    Try Some Reality,

    Do you really think 2012 was the first time the Raiders led the League in Penalities?

  265. Try Some Reality Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 11:20 pm
    Try Some Reality,

    Do you really think 2012 was the first time the Raiders led the League in Penalities?

    ================================

    Clearly, not. My point was that it broke the all-time record. One which stood since 1998, when KC committed 158 in a season. That’s quite an accomplishment, even for a Raider team.

  266. Raider O Says:

    I didn’t skip, but I dont have to list every year for you to show that your claim is not true. All I have to do is list the years he was .500 or better and I did.
    He finished 8-8 or better 13/23 years. That’s not “sub .500 since 1989″.

  267. blackandsilverside Says:

    Most don’t understand: AD was demented in his later years. He wouldn’t and couldn’t hire staff who would win. The reason was is that the Raiders were all he had left; if he hired an excellent staff including GM, they would have eclipsed him, and he, deranged as he was, couldn’t stand for that. Why do you think he hired schlub and schlub as HC and DC? It was a matter of control and he could just not give it up. If one cuts off his child’s leg, the child won’t ever leave home and that is exactly what AD wanted.

    This theory is easily demonstrated by what amounted to Jon Gruden’s firing. AD’s all encompassing ego would rather let the ship sink than to give credit to another who would outshine him.

    It was a sick mentality and that God it’s gone.

  268. Raider O Says:

    You can say he was sub .500 from 2003 – 2009 and that would be an accurate statement, but he wasn’t sub .500 since 1989 as you claim..

  269. KoolKell Says:

    Raider O Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 11:24 pm

    I didn’t skip, but I dont have to list every year for you to show that your claim is not true. All I have to do is list the years he was .500 or better and I did.
    He finished 8-8 or better 13/23 years. That’s not “sub .500 since 1989″.
    —————-
    You are a damned liar, you skipped 2002 to 2009.

    Gnite Gents

  270. Raider O Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 11:20 pm
    Try Some Reality,

    Do you really think 2012 was the first time the Raiders led the League in Penalities?
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    They are going to lead the league in penalties again this year?
    lol

  271. KoolKell Says:

    Do the numbers of wins- loses since 1989.

    Gnite

  272. Raider O Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 11:29 pm
    Raider O Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 11:24 pm

    I didn’t skip, but I dont have to list every year for you to show that your claim is not true. All I have to do is list the years he was .500 or better and I did.
    He finished 8-8 or better 13/23 years. That’s not “sub .500 since 1989″.
    —————-
    You are a damned liar, you skipped 2002 to 2009.

    Gnite Gents
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    LMAO
    You need to improve your math skills, and don’e forget to work on your communication skills.
    Still LMAO

  273. Raider O Says:

    1989-2011 is 23 years, I listed all the years he was .500 or better 13, so he is was .500 or better 13/23 years since 1989.
    What is so hard about that?
    Wow!!

  274. Raider O Says:

    He is not as bad as Kiffin and Cable, and that’s why I don’t hate him, but I do think he is a salesman. He will say anything to get what he wants.

  275. Raidernationdave Says:

    I’ll take the over. So will DMAC. Cause if he don’t the only thing he’ll have going for him in his next contract talks are a bunch a should’a, would’a, could’a’s!

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++

    J-Raider Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 10:04 pm

    over/under dmac starts 10 games this year???

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  277. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    Just ordered a Raiders jersey with Gio’s name and # on it!!!! I am pumped up. Yeah!!! Go Raiders!!!! Favorite player on the team.

  278. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    DMAC gets hurt so often I don’t even want to bet on it and hex the team. :)

  279. guest123 Says:

    Good Morning Nation!

    Aloha Friday

    :)

  280. raidertbone Says:

    Good Morning, Guest!

  281. raidertbone Says:

    There was a lot of argument about past Raider records and performances last night. I am trusting in Reggie to move this regime to where it’s actually on-par with the other franchises — without Al, we are truly moving to a higher plateau. The big question I have now is: How long will the Raiders stay in Oakland?

  282. guest123 Says:

    The Raiders are not leaving Oakland. They are going to get a 3 year extension with reasonable short term upgrades, and Coliseum City is going up shortly after that. No one is going to poach away our beloved Raiders. Mark Davis will see to that.

  283. guest123 Says:

    Since it was asked why the Hue hate:

    Here’s my list of reasons

    1. Talked about “building a bully” only to be slapped around on Sundays and being all emotional on the sideline crying like a menopausal woman.

    2. Talked about cleaning up the penalties, and even brought in refs in practices (which worked for awhile) then said to hell with it after Al died.

    3. Needless shook up the WR chemisty bringing in washed up TJ Housh when the young WR corp needed to grow up on the field and needed the extra reps.

    4. Heavyhandedly traded and overspent/mortgaged the Raiders future for Carson Palmer. While I think this may be a very good trade, he shouldn’t have had that kind of authority to make those deals or have that influence.

    But the main reason I hate Hue, (and I’ll not even mention his nail salon visits)…

    5. Classlessly throwing Jason Campbell under the bus with his “now we have a real QB” comment. That was totally uncalled for especially after the leadership role that Campbell had in the unofficial offseason. Soup was a class act and worked all season with Palmer and Boller rehabbing and earning his paycheck when he could have just laid up on the couch.

    All the while Hue was waxing his nails and mugging for the camera, and acting like he was some kind of annointed GOD of the Raiders. His megolomaniac ego was outta control. It felt like a relief to see him go, and I took some vindictive pleasure to see him go back to Cincy to be their waterboy for the secondary. He fell high off his perch and ended up grovelling for an NFL job. That’s what the league thinks of Hue “used car salesman” Jackson.

  284. raidertbone Says:

    Guest:
    I hope you’re right, but the stadium is a mess – especially compared to other cities. The Warriors have already migrated across the Bay, and there’s still the fear of the A’s going south. If the Raiders franchise rises from the ashes (as it will), there is simply too much corporate value to stay in the 0.co, or whatever the hell it’s called now.

  285. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Glad Seymour pointed out to KoolKell the massive shift in philosophy mid-stream for the Bronco’s offense last year.

    Hue could have tried something, HELL ANYTHING, for our defense last year after watching us give 5 consective TD’s to Ryan Fitzpatrick in a half, or the close to 90 points we gave up in back-to-back weeks against GB-MIA.

    The Bronco’s went from throwing 40 passes a game to 15, and ended up leading the NFL in rushing easily, and winning the division.

    Hue could have at least failed trying, and I wouldn’t fault him for that. But doing nothing is/was deplorable.

  286. raidertbone Says:

    It’s really funny how most of the former Raider coaches haven’t really done much, after leaving. Hue and Cable are both toting lunch pails for their respective teams; Norv is – well – Norv; Callahan never could make it in the pros; Shell should have never tried to be the head coach at all (but God, I loved him as a player!), and Kiffin just goes running around, trying to be the BMOC and wrecking everything in his wake. That leaves Gruden, Flores, and Madden as the three stand-alones of excellence.

  287. guest123 Says:

    Hue didn’t have his hands in the defense though. Did he have any authority over Bresnahan on the field? If so, it didn’t feel like it. Bresnahan was overmatched, and it seemed like the offensive coordinator always had the right play call to defeat his scheme. Whatever he was doing, whether it was strict implementation of Al’s defense, or lazy predictable defensive schemes it wasn’t working. The QB under center was probably glancing up over center and smiling a little while he barked out the snap count.

  288. raidertbone Says:

    When I looked back over game tapes, I saw one particular play that stood out. On that last touchdown that the Raiders gave up to the Lions (and this after having them pinned down at their own 2), Stafford’s pass goes right across the middle — and there’s RoMac, WAY out of position to do anything – and he just jumps up and helplessly swats at a ball that he could never get to, even if he had super mad hops. The Raiders season (and #55) could be summed up accordingly — high expectations, underwhelming performances, caught out of place, a step slow, and a touchdown short.

  289. raidertbone Says:

    Bresnahan should have been renamed – Here’s My Hand!

  290. Bob Marley Says:

    Guest.

    * Classlessly throwing Jason Campbell under the bus with his “now we have a real QB” comment.
    —————————————————-

    I think Al Saunders was the one who made that comment, I might be wrong but that’s how I recall it.

  291. hwnrdr Says:

    Good Morning Nation and Happy Friday the 13th!!!

  292. raidertbone Says:

    Friday the 13th – I feel the sweet chill of an Autumn Wind …

  293. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Simple reason for the Hue hate.

    He was full of himself and never took accountability.

    Watch the NFLN replay of the Lions game. After we failed on that 4th and 1 pass to D-Moore they show post-game interviews for Hue and Palmer.

    Hue says the refs missed the call, but it was a great call, and didn’t have an impact on the game, and he would do it again, again because it was such a great call. He had it right, the refs and his players blew it basically.

    Palmer then says it was a tough call for the refs, and takes 100% of the responsibility for not making a good enough throw.

    One quote from a leader, one from a self-serving front runner.

  294. guest123 Says:

    http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/07/13/three-years-of-pass-blocking-efficiency-guards/

    Our very own Cooper Carlisle named worst guard in football in pass blocking efficiency, and 2nd place isn’t even close. Ouch!

  295. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Actually he was 2nd worst in efficiency, lol, but #1 in total hits allowed.

    Hey #2 in hits allowed just signed a 7 year $53 million extension!!!

  296. guest123 Says:

    Palmer then says it was a tough call for the refs, and takes 100% of the responsibility for not making a good enough throw.

    One quote from a leader, one from a self-serving front runner.

    ***********

    The way they reacted to adversity and accounted for themselves showed the younger man by a dozen years or so was much more mature. I have grown to appreciate Carson for that, and became quickly disenfranchised with Hue at the same time.

  297. raidertbone Says:

    Guest:
    I don’t think that is a big shock. If you’ll look at the roster, there’s a lot of young talent along the front line — Cooper can help the young guys develop, but he might not last too much longer in Oak-town.

  298. guest123 Says:

    Hey #2 in hits allowed just signed a 7 year $53 million extension!!!

    *******

    lol @ the Tampa Bucs. Sucker move extending Joseph with that kind of money. His 2011 performance is no doubt what prompted them to go out and get Carl Nicks in free agency. The local sports talking heads are all hoping some sucker will take Joseph in trade.

  299. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    THE OAKLAND RAIDERS NEED A STATE OF THE ART STADIUM TO COMPETE $$ WISE IN TODAY’S SPORT’S WORLD.THAT SAID,AND I MAY BE ALONE ON THIS,I WILL ENJOY THIS OLD “CONCRETE PALACE” UNTIL THE END.THESE NEW ELECTRO-SUPER SCORE BOARD,PLASTIC HOUSES R THE WAY NOW.BEEN TO MORE GAMES THAN I CAN COUNT OVER THE LAST 45 YEARS IN THE COLISEUM.BASEBALL,FOOTBALL.ONE MUST MOVE ON I GUESS,BUT I 4 ONE WILL ENJOY THE OLD BALL YARD AS LONG AS THERE R EVENTS THERE..

  300. guest123 Says:

    Raidertbone,

    I think it’s a given that at his age, Coop is in his last year. It’s possible that he’s overtaken by midseason by rookie 3rd rounder Tony Bergstrom. At least that’s the hope. Coop does run block well, and that’s this teams bread and butter. Bergstrom can certainly learn a few tricks from that old dog.

  301. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Savage has struggled in pass protection, no doubt.

    He tries to even it out by being elite in the screen game, and never getting flagged while being solid in the run game.

    I still think this will be Cooper’s swan song season before he heads off into the retirement sunset, and I would love nothing more then to get my man a playoff start.

  302. hwnrdr Says:

    I agree Dirt Lot!

  303. raidertbone Says:

    I see Cooper coming in as a seasoned backup when one of the starters goes down to injury. Wiz, Veldheer, Barksdale (maybe), Bergstrom, Briesel – these are all guys I’m keeping my eye on.

  304. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Savage is going to start training camp and the first preseason game as the starter.

    From there, it should be open competition, but the youngster will definitely have to beat him out for it.

    Anything close or even a draw, and they will go with the savy vet to at least start the year.

    Can’t have the rookie missing a blitz read, and hurting our QB the first month of the season.

  305. guest123 Says:

    Wow, 45 years of memories!

    I can respect the sentimental value of the concrete palace. But it’s well past it’s useful life now, and was built for a different generation with different needs. The next generation is addicted to high tech toys and gadgets and they need to always be “plugged in” even while watching a live sporting event. The amenities also need to be brought up to date, the same way you move from a 1970’s ranch home to a modern Spanish tile Mediterranean home. It’s past time to put good old OA Coliseum to rest.

  306. hwnrdr Says:

    I just hope I am there for the very last game there….no matter what sport it is!

  307. guest123 Says:

    I like old Coop. I appreciate what he brings every Sunday in terms of his motor. At his age, he brings it consistently. But I definitely am hoping he gets beat out in training camp or early in the season and we can turn the page. I have a feeling old Coop won’t give up his spot without a fight.

  308. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I don’t think Carlisle has missed an offensive snap in 3 years.

  309. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I just hope I am there for the very last game there….no matter what sport it is!

    ************************

    It would be a damn shame if it were a meaningless A’s-Mariners game to end the season.

  310. guest123 Says:

    308. Yes, definitely he’s been an ironman.

  311. hwnrdr Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 6:31 am
    I just hope I am there for the very last game there….no matter what sport it is!

    ************************

    It would be a damn shame if it were a meaningless A’s-Mariners game to end the season.

    True! Hoping its a Raider playoff game!

  312. guest123 Says:

    It would be nice if the last game in old OA Coliseum was a playoff game. Send it out in style!

  313. hwnrdr Says:

    Yeah or an AFC Championship game victory!

  314. J Hill Says:

    Coliseum getting torn down?

  315. J Hill Says:

    Branch is a smart guy.

    He knows he could very well end up being a million dollar a year player if he has a bad season.

    You can look right across the bay at Whitner to see that.

  316. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    JUST THINK THERE IS SOMETHING 2 B SAID FOR “SCARS” AND/OR “HISTORY” IN AN OLD BALL PARK.YEARS DOWN THE ROAD,WHEN A NEW YARD HAS “HISTORY”IT WILL BE CONSIDERD OLD AND A NEW ONE WILL BE BUILT.AND ON IT GOES.

  317. guest123 Says:

    I like TB33. I think he deserves a reasonable extension with some nice guaranteed dough. But Reggie knows what the market value is and is going to stick to his guns. TB33 is probably kicking himself that Al Davis is no longer around. But if he doesn’t cave to the middle on his contract demands, Reggie will pay him his 6 mil and see about next year. It’s really a no lose situation and Reggie’s holding the pair of aces at the table.

  318. hwnrdr Says:

    J Hill Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 6:36 am
    Coliseum getting torn down?

    Not yet! But you know, all the stories of having to build a new one!

    I will happy knowing that I was a part of history of the old Oakland Alameda County Coliseum!

  319. guest123 Says:

    But the reality is life is short and generations pass. What are seen as memorable “scars” by one generation, is seen as ugly defects by the next. Our generation will pass, and the next one will have to deal with the loss of their “scars” just like we do.

  320. ▌▌▌SPECIAL MODERATOR ALERT ▌▌▌ Says:

    Morning gents:

    Last nites pissing match between Raider O and Kool Kell ends in a draw.

    Clarification:

    While Kool Kell disses Coach with his statement:

    “”"KoolKell Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 10:41 pm
    Al was sub .500 since 1989, the first year of Free Agency. All Hue Jackson’s fault.”"”,
    —he is correct if you add up the wins and losses.—

    But Raider Os’ contention:

    “”"Raider O Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 11:13 pm
    Raider O Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 11:00 pm
    KoolKell Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 10:41 pm
    Al was sub .500 since 1989, the first year of Free Agency. All Hue Jackson’s fault.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
    No he wasn’t!
    89: 8-8
    90: 12-4
    91: 9-7
    93: 10-6
    94: 9-7
    95: 8-8
    98: 8-8
    99: 8-8
    00: 12-4
    01: 10-6
    02: 11-5 (SB)
    2010: 8-8
    2011: 8-8
    You do realize that sub .500 is anything below 8-8 (7-8, 6-10, etc..)?
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    KoolKell Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 11:07 pm
    Raider O Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 11:06 pm
    I’m not saying he was good the last 2 decades, but he wasn’t “sub .500 since 1989″ as you claim.
    —————-
    Yes he was. Numbers don’t lie.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Can you read?”"” —is correct too. 13 of 23 years season w/l we are above .500.—

    Bottom line: Please quit dissin on Mr Davis and let the man rest in peace. Congrats to all who try and defend him against the haters and respect him for what he meant to the Raiders and what the Raiders meant to him. Life is to short to be dissin on Coach.

  321. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I don’t believe because a man died that you have to walk on egg-shells all of a sudden as it pertains to his job efficiency.

    Should we let up on Joe Paterno now, because he is dead?

  322. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Shouldn’t be long before Bucher logs in and starts giving us updates on NBA trades that never come to fruition, lol.

  323. J Hill Says:

    I forgot about Toffelsberg.

    That’s a solid addition!

    Goethel is going to be healthy this year too. Can’t be that jinxed.

    Depth was a HUGE issue for us at LB last year.

  324. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    WELL SAID GUEST..

  325. J Hill Says:

    Shouldn’t be long before Bucher logs in and starts giving us updates on NBA trades that never come to fruition, lol.

    ————————————————————-

    LMFAO

  326. J Hill Says:

    I do neep updates on Jordan Farmar and Jordan Hill though.

  327. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I do neep updates on Jordan Farmar and Jordan Hill though.

    *********************

    Here’s your up-to-the minute update.

    They stink.

  328. J Hill Says:

    LOL

    They can’t all be David Lee.

  329. Just Fire Baby Says:

    David Lee = 20 and 9 last year.

    There was only a couple of guys in the world who did that last year.

  330. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Lee and Bynum came into the league the same year.

    Same amount of All-Star games between them.

  331. Just Fire Baby Says:

    So the Clips signed Blake to a big extension and then he hurts his knee the next day, lol.

    How predictable was that?

  332. hwnrdr Says:

    Is Lee a Center?

  333. hwnrdr Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 7:11 am
    So the Clips signed Blake to a big extension and then he hurts his knee the next day, lol.

    How predictable was that?

    I think its the curse of the Clip! Were they ever Championship material?

  334. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Lee can play multiple positions, just don’t ask him to guard any of them, lol.

  335. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Branch is a smart guy.

    He knows he could very well end up being a million dollar a year player if he has a bad season.

    You can look right across the bay at Whitner to see that.

    ***

    Jhill = money !!

  336. RaiderRockstar Says:

    If Reggie is offering $4-5 million per season, Branch should just take it.

    like JFB said a few days ago, he’s a $2-3 million per season player!

    I personally hope he holds out for big money. That way if he blows, BigMac can just go find him a new safety as opposed to being stuck with a guy

  337. RaiderRockstar Says:

    if Reggie wouldn’t have tagged Tyvon Branch, he’d already be in the fold on a 4-year $16 million contract

    being tagged for a young player is like winning the jackpot, unless you’re already established as the top player at your position like Drew Brees

  338. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I said Branch has played like a $2-3 million per so far.

    I know contracts are meant to project into the future the players value, but that is a big leap saying Branch should get his salary quadrupuled, FOR THE NEXT 4-5 YEARS.

  339. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Report: Few deals expected for franchise-tagged players

    Posted by Darin Gantt on July 13, 2012, 10:20 AM EDT

    With the clock ticking on the 14 franchise-tagged players who haven’t signed long-term deals, the prognosis is mixed on whether more than a few will get a contract or play out their one-year tenders.

    Jason LaCanfora of CBSSports.com said “perhaps only three or four deals will actually get struck,” before Monday’s deadline, based on conversations with league sources.

    He counts Drew Brees among the likely to get done, based largely on the fact it’s inconceivable to other general managers that the Saints wouldn’t do what’s necessary to lock him up. Brees himself is optimistic, but it seems like the assumption he’ll be signed is stronger than any evidence of movement.

    LaCanfora also cites Bears running back Matt Forte as likely, claiming “considerable progress,” and mentions Raiders safety Tyvon Branch as “the closest of all this group to a deal.”

    LaCanfora said a source with knowledge of the Patriots talks with wide receiver Wes Welker termed it “50-50” that a deal gets done.

    Otherwise, it sounds like it could be a slow weekend for most of the tagged players.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/13/report-few-deals-expected-for-franchise-tagged-players/

  340. guest123 Says:

    I don’t even think it’s about $$ per season. Makes no difference if we are talking about $2-$3 mil or $4-5 mil. What Branch should be angling for is guaranteed money. He’s got $6 mil gtd on the table. He should look for a deal where he gets about $15 mil gtd over 5 years, knowing the contract could be null by the end of year 3. So he still gets a nice but reasonably lower salary in exchange for career security.

    If he can’t see the tradeoff is worth giving up a few bucks, then pay him for his one year and let him walk. I’d love to have him long term though.

  341. Just Fire Baby Says:

    4 and 16 sounds good to me.

    I just don’t want the 5 and 42-type that Al loved to heap on his players.

  342. RaiderRockstar Says:

    With the clock ticking on the 14 franchise-tagged players who haven’t signed long-term deals, Jason LaCanfora mentions Raiders safety Tyvon Branch as “the closest of all this group to a deal.”

    you reading this, TB lovers?

  343. Raider O Says:

    Yes.

  344. J Hill Says:

    I happen to think that Branch is going to take a huge leap forward this season.

    I think he will be put in a position to do what he does best, and that would be to play a traditional strong S role. Not a backend S, corner, and other crap.

    Give the man one job, and let him develop.

  345. guest123 Says:

    How does LaConfora know about Branch being “closest to a deal” and our own Corkran not have some inside scoop or leak out a little speculative nugget? Why is it always cut and paste from NFL.com?

  346. Raider O Says:

    Hwnrdr Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 7:13 am
    Just Fire Baby Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 7:11 am
    So the Clips signed Blake to a big extension and then he hurts his knee the next day, lol.

    How predictable was that?

    I think its the curse of the Clip! Were they ever Championship material?
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Low blow Fakers Fan!

  347. hwnrdr Says:

    LOL, O! Think about it…everytime they show promise, what happens?

  348. Raider O Says:

    Hwnrdr,

    We can’t all be like The Fakers. Someone needs to lose, and we are really good at it.

  349. Dakota Says:

    Yo!

  350. Dakota Says:

    I hope we don’t come to an agreement with Branch. Let the coaching staff see if they can make something out of him before giving him a big contract.

    The dude has had one decent year in the NFL so far….and I question how good he really even was last year.

  351. Dakota Says:

    Elton Brand would be a nice addition to the Lakers…..when Bynum goes down Gasol can slide into the C position and Brand will start at PF.

  352. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Sources told ESPN.com that the Rockets, should they go ahead with their widely reported plans to release starting power forward Luis Scola via the NBA’s amnesty clause, are prepared to absorb the contracts of Jason Richardson, Glen Davis and Chris Duhon — in addition to sending Orlando multiple future first-round picks and recent draftees — to give the Magic an opportunity to wipe their payroll virtually clean for their post-Howard rebuilding effort….

    Sources say that the Rockets would have to send Kevin Martin, Patrick Patterson, Marcus Morris and Chandler Parsons to the Magic from their current roster to make the salary-cap math work, as well the draft rights to Jeremy Lamb, Royce White and Terrence Jones, all selected in last month’s first round.

    The Rockets, in addition, would also have to waive a handful of players with non-guaranteed contracts (Shaun Livingston, Courtney Fortson, Josh Harrellson, Jerome Jordan, Jon Leuer, Diamon Simpson and Greg Smith) to clear sufficient cap space. But Houston, sources say, is also offering multiple first-round picks to the Magic, including a potential lottery pick acquired this week from Toronto in the Kyle Lowry deal.

    All of that to get Howard, who has said he would not re-sign in Houston and would become a free agent. It likely is a rent-a-Howard situation.

    And it’s a good move — the Rockets have been stuck in the NBA’s safe and comfortable middle ground and need to get out of it. If they get Howard and keep him, they have their star and can build around him. If they fall short or if he comes then leaves, they struggle for a couple years but get high draft picks (not the middle of the road ones they had) and they get a star that way. Either way, they break out of their rut.

    ***

    wow!!

  353. J Hill Says:

    …..when Bynum goes down

    ———————————————————–

    SMH

  354. RaiderRockstar Says:

    is Houston really willing to bend over backwards and take it up the tailpipe, just to get big Dwight ??

  355. J Hill Says:

    That’s a great deal for Orlando.

    Not sure what Houston is thinking.

  356. Dakota Says:

    Houston’s offer is damn good….Dwight will look good in H-Town, and there is no way in heck he is giving up $20+ million to sign with Dallas or Cleveland next summer.

    I think it will work out for Houston.

  357. Dakota Says:

    Last night I had a dream that a grizzly bear was chasing me through my parent’s home. Every door I closed the bear just knocked down. I finally made it into a bathroom and was crawling out of the window when the bear burst through the door and was about to get me and I woke up.

    What does it mean?

  358. hwnrdr Says:

    Dakota Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 8:03 am
    Last night I had a dream that a grizzly bear was chasing me through my parent’s home. Every door I closed the bear just knocked down. I finally made it into a bathroom and was crawling out of the window when the bear burst through the door and was about to get me and I woke up.

    What does it mean?

    LOL, last week I had a dream that I was fighting with a flying ostrich. I was trying to punch it in the face but kept missing. I woke up because I almost punched my son in the face who was sleeping next to me…
    I think the night before we were talking about Chris Bosh…lol

  359. Raider O Says:

    Dakota Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 8:03 am
    Last night I had a dream that a grizzly bear was chasing me through my parent’s home. Every door I closed the bear just knocked down. I finally made it into a bathroom and was crawling out of the window when the bear burst through the door and was about to get me and I woke up.

    What does it mean?
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    It means you shouldn’t eat spicy food before going to bed.

  360. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    LOL, last week I had a dream that I was fighting with a flying ostrich. I was trying to punch it in the face but kept missing. I woke up because I almost punched my son in the face who was sleeping next to me…
    I think the night before we were talking about Chris Bosh…lol
    ————————
    Did you enjoy the game Joust as a kid?

  361. Raider O Says:

    LOL, last week I had a dream that I was fighting with a flying ostrich. I was trying to punch it in the face but kept missing. I woke up because I almost punched my son in the face who was sleeping next to me…
    I think the night before we were talking about Chris Bosh…lol
    $$$$$$$$$$$$

    LMAO

  362. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    OKC Thunder have also jumped into the mix.

    Harden & Ibaka the offer…

    GOOD MORNING FELLAS.

  363. J Hill Says:

    Joust was da shhhhh

  364. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    J Hill Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 7:54 am
    That’s a great deal for Orlando.

    Not sure what Houston is thinking.

    —-

    The same thing the Nets were thinking when they traded for DWill.

  365. J Hill Says:

    Harden & Ibaka the offer

    ————————————————————

    LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

    Mornin, Bucher!

  366. hwnrdr Says:

    Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 8:29 am
    LOL, last week I had a dream that I was fighting with a flying ostrich. I was trying to punch it in the face but kept missing. I woke up because I almost punched my son in the face who was sleeping next to me…
    I think the night before we were talking about Chris Bosh…lol
    ————————
    Did you enjoy the game Joust as a kid?

    LMAO! Yes I did! I still have it also…on my Wii!

  367. J Hill Says:

    I don’t recall the Nets taking a bunch of Utah junk contracts.

  368. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    J Hill Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 8:44 am
    I don’t recall the Nets taking a bunch of Utah junk contracts.

    —-

    That’s the last of the concern.

    Keeping the star is what im refering to.

  369. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    hwnrdr Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 8:44 am
    Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 8:29 am
    LOL, last week I had a dream that I was fighting with a flying ostrich. I was trying to punch it in the face but kept missing. I woke up because I almost punched my son in the face who was sleeping next to me…
    I think the night before we were talking about Chris Bosh…lol
    ————————
    Did you enjoy the game Joust as a kid?

    LMAO! Yes I did! I still have it also…on my Wii!
    ———————–
    Speaking of cool old school games: http://youtu.be/BzRTkWhtDYs

  370. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Branch is close to a deal.

    YES.

  371. J Hill Says:

    Martin, 2 #1s, Chappell, Lamb -ish

    should be able to get it done.

    Howard plus one bad contract.

  372. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    Remember Contra? (Who Doesn’t)

    This is a band playing the music-too cool!

  373. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    Conta-http://youtu.be/vvDGVYTdhrc

  374. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    http://youtu.be/vvDGVYTdhrc

  375. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Regardless of the Harden/Ibaka offer, I still prefer the Houston deal.

    PG – Jameer Nelson / Ish Smith
    SG – JJ Redick / Kevin Martin / Jeremy Lamb
    SF – Hedo Turkoglu / Chandler Parsons / Justin Harper
    PF – Andrew Nicholson / Royce White / Terrance Jones
    C – Kyle O’Quinn / Gustavo Ayon

    Plus Marcus Morris, Patrick Patterson..

  376. hwnrdr Says:

    Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 8:53 am
    Remember Contra? (Who Doesn’t)

    This is a band playing the music-too cool!

    Hey, Contra was bad ass!

  377. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    J Hill Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 8:51 am
    Martin, 2 #1s, Chappell, Lamb -ish

    should be able to get it done.

    Howard plus one bad contract.

    —-

    Who is Chappell??

  378. hwnrdr Says:

    What about Tempest?

  379. J Hill Says:

    Chandler Parsons

    ———————————————————-

    That’s who I meant, not Chappell.

  380. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    J Hill Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 9:00 am
    Chandler Parsons

    ———————————————————-

    That’s who I meant, not Chappell.

    —-

    Oh, I see.

    That actually wont work. Contracts dont match up.

    The reason the Rockets are including so much is to match up.

  381. J Hill Says:

    They don’t match up to all the junk.

    It would match up to Howard and Richardson only.

  382. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    J Hill Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 9:06 am
    They don’t match up to all the junk.

    It would match up to Howard and Richardson only.

    —-

    No. They wont bro.

    Dwight & JRich combine for around 23 million a year.

    K. Martin is at 11. Parsons in non guaranteed. Rookies rights dont carry a cap figure.

    So, no. That doesnt match up.

  383. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Maybe the Rockets can throw in the 95 Title in the deal?…

  384. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 9:10 am
    Maybe the Rockets can throw in the 95 Title in the deal?…
    ———————–
    as well as Kenny Smith and Robert Horry!

  385. Raidernationdave Says:

    My peeps! My beyotches!

    Whut it be like?

  386. R8ER MIKE Says:

    what up HOE !! lol lol lol

  387. The Big Banana Says:

    Some perspective on the penalty issue….Raider opponents ranked 6th in penalties last year. Opponents playing down to their undisciplined competition or flag happy refs?

    That being said, still unacceptable to break the penalty record and that’s on Hue….but just a little interesting tidbit.

  388. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    The Big Banana Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 9:27 am
    Some perspective on the penalty issue….Raider opponents ranked 6th in penalties last year. Opponents playing down to their undisciplined competition or flag happy refs?

    That being said, still unacceptable to break the penalty record and that’s on Hue….but just a little interesting tidbit.

    —-

    Yea, we have to get 100% smarter/disciplined.

  389. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    W’s looking at Kenyon Martin.

  390. Breaking_Black Says:

    Just as a hypothetical..

    Even though a lot of the personnel was affected by letting Nnamdi go, if for some reason everything was the same but we had #21 last year, what do you think our record would have been?

  391. guest123 Says:

    http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/07/11/analysis-notebook-the-best-play-nobody-noticed-in-2011/

    For the Branch haters, you must read this.

  392. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    guest123 Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 9:42 am
    http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/07/11/analysis-notebook-the-best-play-nobody-noticed-in-2011/

    For the Branch haters, you must read this.

    —-

    YES.

    But, I have tried this, was told its not good enough.

    lol..

  393. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    288.raidertbone Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 5:58 am
    When I looked back over game tapes, I saw one particular play that stood out. On that last touchdown that the Raiders gave up to the Lions (and this after having them pinned down at their own 2), Stafford’s pass goes right across the middle — and there’s RoMac, WAY out of position to do anything – and he just jumps up and helplessly swats at a ball that he could never get to, even if he had super mad hops. The Raiders season (and #55) could be summed up accordingly — high expectations, underwhelming performances, caught out of place, a step slow, and a touchdown short.

    —————————————————–
    RB – I know exactly what play you are talking about but at the same time lets talk about scheme. What is the LB doing on Calvin Johnson in the deep thirds of the field in crunch time? Hated he was to stiff to make that play and hated that they put a LB on the best WR in the league during crunch time.

    I hated the defensive play call more than I did the play not being made.

  394. KoolKell Says:

    Anybody know how many games the Raiders have won since 1989?

  395. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 10:00 am
    Anybody know how many games the Raiders have won since 1989?

    —-

    160

  396. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 10:00 am
    Anybody know how many games the Raiders have won since 1989?

    —-

    AVG. of 7 wins per season.

  397. theghostronin79 Says:

    I believe I can sum up the Raiders organization from the Top-Down, through coaching, personell, offseason, and the 2012 season yet to come in ONE word. A word that hasn’t been spoken in regards to this team in a LONG LONG TIME……..

    LEGIT ! ! !

    They may not go to the playoffs, they may not even have a winning record next year (I think they will though), but one thing won’t be deniable. They will are, and will be Legit.

  398. Raiderbuck Says:

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/13/preseason-power-rankings-no-23-oakland-raiders/

    Article in these dry times

  399. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Amazing what losing Kam Wimbley will do to your perception in the media.

  400. guest123 Says:

    “On paper, at least, the Raiders don’t at all resemble a truly bad team.” – PFT

    Nice analysis. No hate there. At least we don’t cause Florio to dry heave.

  401. guest123 Says:

    LEGIT ! ! !

    ************

    Hammer time!

  402. theghostronin79 Says:

    They say #23……I say somewhere in the 13-15 range. That’s no “Fan” speak either. I think they’ll be smack dab in the middle somewhere, or just above.

  403. Raider O Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 10:00 am
    Anybody know how many games the Raiders have won since 1989?
    $$$$$$$

    Still not convinced of what I showed you last night?
    He was .500 or better 13/23 years since 1989.
    Still LOL! Are you going to call me a liar again?

  404. theghostronin79 Says:

    With all this rediculous Manning HYPE and the Super Bowl bound Donkeys, I could actually see them in the AFC West Cellar next year. Them or the Dolts.

    Raiders / Chiefs 1 & 2

    Aaahhh Whatever.

  405. KoolKell Says:

    Last nite I said the Raiders were sub .500 since 1989, the first year of free agency. Raider O accused me of making it up.

    Cmon, you guys who’ve been here awhile, know I’m familiar with these numbers.

    168 wins – 200 loses since 1989. Avg 7.6363636 wins per year.

  406. KoolKell Says:

    Last nite I said the Raiders were sub .500 since 1989, the first year of free agency. Raider O accused me of making it up.

    Cmon, you guys who’ve been here awhile, know I’m familiar with these numbers.

    168 wins – 200 loses since 1989. Avg 7.6363636 wins per year.

    http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/rai/

  407. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Whats the point of all this though?

    Al Davis knock??..

  408. The Big Banana Says:

    Agree that it’ll be a race between our Raiders and the Chefs. Glad the Donks are getting all this love though. Means there fans will suffer from a huge let down. They’re all thinking Super Bowl tight now.

  409. Raider O Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 10:41 pm
    Al was sub .500 since 1989, the first year of Free Agency. All Hue Jackson’s fault.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    You said he was “sub .500 since 1989″, and I told you that he was .500 or better 13/23 seasons since 1989, so why are you so confused?

  410. The Big Banana Says:

    *their

  411. guest123 Says:

    They need to tear down Joe Paterno’s statue **ala** Sadaam Hussein and then drag out it around the town square at Penn St and have a bonfire. Maybe chop the head off right above his flying necktie.

  412. KoolKell Says:

    The point I always made from these numbers, is that Al was great BEFORE the advent of the Free Agency System.

  413. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    guest123 Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 10:24 am
    They need to tear down Joe Paterno’s statue **ala** Sadaam Hussein and then drag out it around the town square at Penn St and have a bonfire. Maybe chop the head off right above his flying necktie.
    —-

    Agreed.

    They need to rid themselves of anything to do with the Paterno era if they want to have a chance at surviving.

  414. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 10:25 am
    The point I always made from these numbers, is that Al was great BEFORE the advent of the Free Agency System.

    —-

    IDK if it is that clear & simple..

    But, interesting debate.

  415. KoolKell Says:

    Raider O Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 10:23 am
    KoolKell Says:
    July 12th, 2012 at 10:41 pm
    Al was sub .500 since 1989, the first year of Free Agency. All Hue Jackson’s fault.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    You said he was “sub .500 since 1989″, and I told you that he was .500 or better 13/23 seasons since 1989, so why are you so confused?
    —————-
    Forget it Raider O.

  416. theghostronin79 Says:

    Glad the Donks are getting all this love though. Means there fans will suffer from a huge let down. They’re all thinking Super Bowl tight now.

    =========================

    Same here. They’re all giggling and high fiving already. There’s not much I love more than Bronco Tears. They make my heart rejoice.

  417. Raider O Says:

    Like I said last night, you can say:
    he was sub .500 from 2003 -2009, or you can say his record since 1989 is sub .500, but you can’t say he was sub .500 since 1989 because it’s not true, and I proved that.

  418. Raider O Says:

    Or you can say his avg record/ season since 1989 is sub .500, but you can’t say he was sub .500 since 1989.

  419. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    168-200 since 1989. Sub .500

    Because of a horrible stretch of seasons.

    But since 1989 more seasons .500 or better than sub .500

    Goes both ways.

  420. guest123 Says:

    I never chose to believe the reports and innuendo that Joe Pa could be directly linked in covering up for Sandusky, but he did more than that. He enabled it to happen, which is disgusting. I can’t fathom being a party to abuse of at-risk disadvantaged children. There’s just no way to excuse that. No way the Paterno family can say “nobody’s perfect”. Any accolade, any library, statue, any scholarship or honor that has anything to do with the Paterno name should be erased from record. Any highlights of Penn St. glory days or Nat’l Championships should be burned. That school should get the death penalty, and it should be for more than just 5 years.

  421. guest123 Says:

    I hope that DHB gets ahold of Eric Wright’s attorney. He just got off with no charges from the DA for his recent DUI.

  422. Raider O Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 10:32 am
    168-200 since 1989. Sub .500

    Because of a horrible stretch of seasons.

    But since 1989 more seasons .500 or better than sub .500

    Goes both ways.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    No it doesn’t!
    he was sub .500 from 2003 -2009, or you can say his record since 1989 is sub .500, Or you can say his avg record/ season since 1989 is sub .500, but you can’t say he was sub .500 since 1989.

  423. theghostronin79 Says:

    You said it G123……. Absolute

  424. guest123 Says:

    Drew Brees just signed a 5 year deal with the Saints for $100 million. $40 mill gtd in year one. $60 mil by year 3.

  425. KoolKell Says:

    I think the NCAA should suspend the Penn State Football program

  426. theghostronin79 Says:

    Holy CRAPPER

  427. The Big Banana Says:

    #420 – co-signed. And any clown that tries to riot in protest, lynch them on the spot.

  428. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Raider O Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 10:35 am
    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 10:32 am
    168-200 since 1989. Sub .500

    Because of a horrible stretch of seasons.

    But since 1989 more seasons .500 or better than sub .500

    Goes both ways.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    No it doesn’t!
    he was sub .500 from 2003 -2009, or you can say his record since 1989 is sub .500, Or you can say his avg record/ season since 1989 is sub .500, but you can’t say he was sub .500 since 1989.

    —-

    The overall record since 1989 is sub .500

    LOL.. honestly reading what you wrote sounds funny.

  429. KoolKell Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 10:32 am
    168-200 since 1989. Sub .500

    Because of a horrible stretch of seasons.

    But since 1989 more seasons .500 or better than sub .500

    Goes both ways.
    ————————————–
    Unfortunately that horrible stretch of seasons IS included in their record since 1989. Where they have averaged 7.6 wins. Which I believe is sub .500.

  430. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    This is a classic case of what happens here on this blog.

    Both sides are basically right.

    But neither will admit someone else is right on a subject.

    LOL.

    All in the name of being “right” on a internet blog.

  431. Raider O Says:

    The overall record since 1989 is sub .500
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Exactly!

  432. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    When will then be now?..

  433. Just Fire Baby Says:

    The PFT report was nonsense, and I would have rather read a write-up from Raiderman99 or something.

    Tyvon Branch, Lamarr Houston and Shonasty are all “difference-makers” apparently, even though they aren’t really.

    It says we won’t struggle to score points, than says we have holes on offense.

    And how can you talk of the Raiders “Strengths” and not mention our bad-azz Pro Bowl special teamers?

    PFT…..stick to catching headlines with links to an ACTUAL writers take.

  434. theghostronin79 Says:

    When will then be now?..

    ============

    SOOOOOON

  435. guest123 Says:

    I can’t say I’m not mildly disappointed with Brees signing. Reports from LaConfora were that TB33 was the “closest” of the franchise players yet to sign and he got beat out by D. Brees.

    C’mon Reggie, make it happen!

  436. Raider O Says:

    Both sides are not right. I know his point, he has been posting the same post for 5 years, so I get it, but Al was not sub .500 since 1989, and I want You People to know that we were .500 or better 13/23 seasons since 1989.

  437. hwnrdr Says:

    With the JoePa statue….would that be up to the school to decide what they want to do with it? Do they honor the man that accomplish so much even though it was marred in the end? Or do they just wipe the slate clean and remove it from site?

  438. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “PFT…..stick to catching headlines with links to an ACTUAL writers take.”

    So true a bunch of Raider haters that know ESPN and the talking heads can get some rating by bashing the Raiders they do the same at PFT little Florio the j3w ex lawyer turned football gossip columnist has short mans complex and a backwoods West Virginia inbreed outlook on the NFL.

    Pathetic!!!!!!!!!!

  439. Just Fire Baby Says:

    How about we just say Al made 4 Super Bowls in 24 years before FA, and 1 in 23 years after?

  440. guest123 Says:

    hwnrdr Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 10:50 am
    With the JoePa statue….would that be up to the school to decide what they want to do with it? Do they honor the man that accomplish so much even though it was marred in the end? Or do they just wipe the slate clean and remove it from site?

    ********

    I think there is no doubt 100% the statue will be removed. I’d bet the farm on margin call.

  441. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Florio is jewish?

    Sure you don’t mean Rosenthal?

  442. Just Fire Baby Says:

    If they try to tear the statue down, there might be 100 people clinging to it reading to die if it means it stays.

    That won’t be as easy as you think.

  443. hwnrdr Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 10:51 am
    How about we just say Al made 4 Super Bowls in 24 years before FA, and 1 in 23 years after?

    and even that, not too many teams matched it!

  444. hwnrdr Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 10:53 am
    If they try to tear the statue down, there might be 100 people clinging to it reading to die if it means it stays.

    That won’t be as easy as you think.

    That is true! Stuck in a rock in a hard place! What do they do?

  445. Raider O Says:

    Al was better before FA, but he wasn’t as bad after FA as some claim. His teams finished .500 or better 13/23 seasons since 1989.

  446. guest123 Says:

    already mentioned earlier, lynch anyone who tries to handcuff themselves to the statue. Show them pictures of the boys and men who are so messed up in the head that they will probably never recover to have a normal life. Split image JoePa/Sandusky on sandwich boards to break their will. People will eventually give up.

  447. RaiderRockstar Says:

    http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/07/11/analysis-notebook-the-best-play-nobody-noticed-in-2011/

    For the Branch haters, you must read this.

    ***

    @G123

    nobody has said Branch doesnt put the work in or hustle. Nobody questions his speed or tackling ability either. You want to pay the man because he kept a 74 yard play from being 79 yards ??

    what was the end result of that drive again?

    Jets TD!

  448. Just Fire Baby Says:

    These town college towns have no perspective bro, when it comes to college football.

    You can show them all the evidence you want, they won’t budge.

  449. hwnrdr Says:

    One could argue though, O, that yes, Al was .500 or better during 13/23 years, however, HIS Committment to Excellence went down hill! With all the $$$ spent, why did we not get there on more than one occasion! Being stiff with the coaches? Whatever it may be, it is now behind us! What will THOSE PEOPLE blame if we have an average year this year! DOn’t matter, I’m looking ahead! And still…RIP Al!

  450. guest123 Says:

    I remember the glory days when the Raiders always had above .500 records. Heck that wasn’t even a topic of discussion. It was how to break thru the AFC Championship games against the Steelers every year. I remember the dominant MNF record we had and how it seemed an automatic win when the silver & black played on Monday Night.

    So hearing about a better than .500 record as the new baseline of success really feels bitter to me now.

  451. hwnrdr Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 10:59 am
    These town college towns have no perspective bro, when it comes to college football.

    You can show them all the evidence you want, they won’t budge.

    Agreed!

  452. Just Fire Baby Says:

    So hearing about a better than .500 record as the new baseline of success really feels bitter to me now.

    ***************************

    Crappy as it is, that is the new reality until otherwise.

  453. hwnrdr Says:

    guest123 Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 11:00 am
    I remember the glory days when the Raiders always had above .500 records. Heck that wasn’t even a topic of discussion. It was how to break thru the AFC Championship games against the Steelers every year. I remember the dominant MNF record we had and how it seemed an automatic win when the silver & black played on Monday Night.

    So hearing about a better than .500 record as the new baseline of success really feels bitter to me now.

    Yup, those were the years! Miss those years, but I feel it will be back!

  454. guest123 Says:

    I agree that Al’s “committment to excellence” slogan took a backseat to him being the prime mover in that process. Al couldn’t take a back seat to anyone, and never evolved with the game to adapt to the new rules, free agency, new schemes. He was a pioneer of the modern game, a maverick. Yet he himself turned into what he hated about the old school GMs.

  455. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Dakota Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 8:03 am
    Last night I had a dream that a grizzly bear was chasing me through my parent’s home. Every door I closed the bear just knocked down. I finally made it into a bathroom and was crawling out of the window when the bear burst through the door and was about to get me and I woke up.

    What does it mean?

    *******************************

    It was a virtual metaphor of Rolando McClain (the grizzly bear) chasing your azz down for being a hater.

  456. guest123 Says:

    nobody has said Branch doesnt put the work in or hustle. Nobody questions his speed or tackling ability either.

    **********

    @Rockstar,

    But don’t you think it’s a bit of an exageration to make a point to label Branch Gibril Wilson 2.0?

    I get that you don’t think he’s elite, but that’s going to far!

  457. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “Florio is jewish?

    Sure you don’t mean Rosenthal?”

    Yes JBF you are correct.

  458. KoolKell Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 10:59 am

    These town college towns have no perspective bro, when it comes to college football.

    You can show them all the evidence you want, they won’t budge.
    ——————————-
    Not just college town people.

  459. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    Yo Brahs, just got hella high on major skunk weed and pleasured my dode for an hour to Asa Akira highlights

    ‘Bout 4 or 5 strippers were in my jacuzzi the whole time begging for it, but I was all like – Yo, the Beeech Diggity gots to roll solo on this one, word

    Today is all about Rasta Ganja on the blog, dweebos.

    I’ll be dropping knowledge reggae style and hitting the bong heavy handed

    First gotta drop a corn cob sized duece, holla. Hold the queso fresco

  460. The Big Banana Says:

    @Hwnrdr – been to the Raider Nation celebrations? Good times?

  461. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Also, DAV criticizes Giordano saying that all his INT’s were thrown right to him …

    Look at the Branch INT of Sanchez (in the endzone)

    Trevor Scott looks like Howie Long on the play, flushing Sancho out of the pocket and levels him right after he gets the ball off. Poor decision by Sanchez, probably was one of the things they saw on film and decided to bring in Tebow for competition

    Also, for all the Chekwa fans out there … him trying to cover Santonio Holmes was a joke. Sanchez would have exposed that all day

    Hagan & Schilens were pretty good downfield blockers that day for McFadden I’ve gotta say!

    in MS’s 1 yard TD scramble look at Branch taking a poor angle and look at the hit Gio puts on him!

    http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2011092508/2011/REG3/jets@raiders#menu=highlights&tab=analyze&analyze=boxscore

  462. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Not just college town people.

    *********************

    Your right, I am sure Berkeley would embrace him and his lifestyle.

  463. RaiderRockstar Says:

    don’t you think it’s a bit of an exageration to make a point to label Branch Gibril Wilson 2.0?

    ***

    nope, call the spade a spade bro!

    hey a bunch of Raider fans loved Gibril … before we cut him

  464. Raider O Says:

    Hwnrdr,

    I agree bro, and I think Al made a lot of mistakes like over spending on avg talent, “being stiff with the coaches”, didn’t hire a GM the last decade when he needed help due to his age and health, etc….
    -Did he make mistakes? Yes, and we can create a bigger list (valuing 40 times/ speed over skill, drafting a lot DBs in the 1st round, etc…)
    -Was he as bad as some here claim? No, and his teams finished .500 or better 13/23 seasons.

  465. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I didn’t think Gibril was that bad, just massively overpaid.

    He certainly looked like the better safety in our backfield, when he was playing along side Huffy.

  466. KoolKell Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 11:13 am

    Not just college town people.

    *********************

    Your right, I am sure Berkeley would embrace him and his lifestyle.
    —————————————
    Oh you’re soooooo right. hahahaha, Hehehehe, Lololololol.
    Sooooooooooooo funny.

  467. The Big Banana Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 11:13 am
    Not just college town people.

    *********************

    Your right, I am sure Berkeley would embrace him and his lifestyle.

    ————-

    Huh? Berkeley likes child molesters?

  468. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Q Groves against the Jets was an absolute disaster in coverage..

  469. Raiderbuck Says:

    Until we implement a normal secondary and put it on the field, it’s going to be hard to judge anyone there. All things are reset this year, thing are like they’ve never been before. So all bets are off.

    Branch appears to be really good, Mitchell appears to be out of position a lot, I think with a modern defense we’ll find out. Won’t know for sure until then.

  470. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I hope everybody is busy watching last year’s Jets/Raiders highlights after using that as an example of the greatness of Branch !!

    LOL

  471. Just Fire Baby Says:

    The California law review at Berkeley believes in rehabilitation of child molestors and has lawyers on staff who have worked pro-bono to have convicted predators removed from Megan’s Law websites.

  472. hwnrdr Says:

    The Big Banana Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 11:10 am
    @Hwnrdr – been to the Raider Nation celebrations? Good times?

    I have been to one in 06, the Art Shell year! That one was held in the coliseum. Good times? I guess what you make of it! At the time I was trying to get through the crowd to get an autographed Moss cap, now that I look back at it, glad I didn’t!
    All in all though, it is an experience! Especially meeting all teh Raiderettes! LOL

  473. The Big Banana Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 11:25 am
    The California law review at Berkeley believes in rehabilitation of child molestors and has lawyers on staff who have worked pro-bono to have convicted predators removed from Megan’s Law websites.

    ————-

    Holy crap.

  474. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    Yo, just watched Brand X, that show straight up BITES

    Russel Brand has always been nipping at the Beeech Dawg’s tails, trying to steal my ladies, but now he’s trying to rip off my comedy magic?

    About time to sick the Certified Platinum Posse on that poser and take administer some old fashioned Inglewood street justice

  475. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I got a 47 page link from the California Law Review titled “The misapplication of Sex-Offender Registration” going on and on about the “infringement of rights” of these predators it if you would like to see it.

  476. hwnrdr Says:

    Don’t like Berkeley, simply because they don’t want to offend any other Nationalities by flying the American Falg. Excuse me? What country is California in again?
    Not sure if that still happens but it wasn’t too long ago…

  477. guest123 Says:

    The only rehabilitation a child molestor should be allowed is good pair of cement shoes in a deep lake!

  478. KoolKell Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 11:25 am

    The California law review at Berkeley believes in rehabilitation of child molestors and has lawyers on staff who have worked pro-bono to have convicted predators removed from Megan’s Law websites.
    ———————————–
    Can you provide a link, I can’t fine one?

  479. guest123 Says:

    Oh come on. For years it’s been known as the “Republic of California”, this is nothing new.

  480. hwnrdr Says:

    Anything done in offense of a child is just darn right sick!

  481. hwnrdr Says:

    guest123 Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 11:31 am
    Oh come on. For years it’s been known as the “Republic of California”, this is nothing new.

    Yeah, I guess!

  482. MistaBrown Says:

    Liberals hard @ work for their constituency.
    No surprise…
    ______

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 11:25 am

    The California law review at Berkeley believes in rehabilitation of child molestors and has lawyers on staff who have worked pro-bono to have convicted predators removed from Megan’s Law websites.

  483. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    theghostronin79 Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 10:45 am
    When will then be now?..

    ============

    SOOOOOON

    —-

    :)

  484. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    HURRY!

    Someone provide KrappyRat with a link!!!!!!!!!!

    The old fool will soil himself in exactly 8 seconds if he doesn’t get a link, any link!!!!!!!!!!!

  485. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Knock yourself out, but I’ll point you to page 3, “this comment argues that Megan’s Laws are an ineffective and INAPPROPRIATE means of preventing violent sexual offenses in general”.

    http://jthomasniu.org/class/781/Assigs/egarf-sexoff3.pdf

  486. guest123 Says:

    Anything done in offense of a child is just darn right sick!

    ********

    1000 % agree. Any society that takes a lenient approach to protecting the children or giving sickos any social privilidges is a cancerous one on the verge of anarchy. I support the death penalty to these creeps on strike one.

  487. KoolKell Says:

    Guest123 Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 11:31 am

    Oh come on. For years it’s been known as the “Republic of California”, this is nothing new.
    ————————————
    So why do YOU FOREIGNERS, go follow the Pennsylvania teams?

  488. guest123 Says:

    So why do YOU FOREIGNERS, go follow the Pennsylvania teams?

    **********

    <— Native Californian

  489. The Big Banana Says:

    Guest123 Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 11:30 am
    The only rehabilitation a child molestor should be allowed is good pair of cement shoes in a deep lake!

    —————

    I support this motion.

  490. TxRaider210 Says:

    Greetings from Cambodia! Ahh crap… no foreigners allowed:(

  491. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    The Big Banana Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 11:37 am
    Guest123 Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 11:30 am
    The only rehabilitation a child molestor should be allowed is good pair of cement shoes in a deep lake!

    —————

    I support this motion.

    —-

    Too fast of a death.

  492. guest123 Says:

    209 represent!

  493. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    KrappyRat is not a child molester

    But he did chase Bubba Paris around the local fair trying to sniff his Fruit of the Looms

    But I repeat – he is NOT a child molester

    MO FRESH SWIZZLE

  494. J-Raider Says:

    my top 5 areas of concern for our team as it stands:

    1. defense/linebackers- mcclain isnt cutting it, curry and wheeler are our best linebackers (thats not a good thing) we have a good up and comer in burris and possibly stupar, but both are raw rookies.

    2. offense/back-up running back- jones is too small to be an every down back although i think he is an excellent change of pace back, goodson is a huge question mark to be trusted as a reliable back-up option(in case of dmac injury)

    3. offense/tight end- myers isnt a bad temporary fix in a pinch, but for the entire season ??? ausberry looks like a vernon davis-type tight end threat, but with only 2 catches for 14 yards to date, he is very raw and unproven.

    4. defense/secondary- although we “shored up” our cornerback position with the additions of spencer and bartell, we dont really have much reliable depth behind them other than the obvious ( dvd, checkwa ) and even they arent completely reliable options to be an every down player in case of an injury. spencer hasnt played well of late and bartell is coming off a neck injry, both could be ok and both could also flop – gio and mitchell are our replacements behind branch and huff (i think they should be fine)

    5. cap space- this is my least area of concern for a reason, reggie! i think we are in good hands and headed in the right direction, but as it stands we arent looking too great (under 1 mil.) we need cap space more than ever right now to bring in depth, but that wont happen unless there are more restructures or branch signs long-term.

  495. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Sorry to take this in that direction.

    That link has some sick crap in it. It actually takes shots at Feinstein for appealing to the media and people’s fears in the Polly Klaas case in the name of getting Megan’s Law inacted. As if there is something wrong with that.

    And these are six figured, tax-payer paid salaried folks.

  496. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Kwame Brown to 76ers. LOL.

  497. KoolKell Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 11:34 am

    Knock yourself out, but I’ll point you to page 3, “this comment argues that Megan’s Laws are an ineffective and INAPPROPRIATE means of preventing violent sexual offenses in general”.

    http://jthomasniu.org/class/781/Assigs/egarf-sexoff3.pdf
    ————————————-
    So that’s to say UC Berkeley embraces child molesters? C’mon dude.

  498. TxRaider210 Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 11:37 am
    The Big Banana Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 11:37 am
    Guest123 Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 11:30 am
    The only rehabilitation a child molestor should be allowed is good pair of cement shoes in a deep lake!

    —————

    I support this motion.

    —-

    Too fast of a death.

    ———
    Throw the sick pervs in general population for life

  499. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    TxRaider210 Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 11:40 am
    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 11:37 am
    The Big Banana Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 11:37 am
    Guest123 Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 11:30 am
    The only rehabilitation a child molestor should be allowed is good pair of cement shoes in a deep lake!

    —————

    I support this motion.

    —-

    Too fast of a death.

    ———
    Throw the sick pervs in general population for life

    —-

    In El Salvador.

  500. KoolKell Says:

    Let me ask you this. Did Jerry Sandusky work at Penn State or UC Berkeley?

  501. Just Fire Baby Says:

    So that’s to say UC Berkeley embraces child molesters? C’mon dude.

    **************************

    They are the most tolerant of them, that’s for sure. Even if it is just a faction, most EVERY OTHER PLACE ON EARTH has no faction of suck sicko’s.

    They take pride in that stance.

  502. The Big Banana Says:

    Hwnrdr Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 11:29 am
    Don’t like Berkeley, simply because they don’t want to offend any other Nationalities by flying the American Falg. Excuse me? What country is California in again?
    Not sure if that still happens but it wasn’t too long ago…

    —————–

    What a truckload of crap. That’s just stupid. Offend other nationalities? Meanwhile other nationalities feel free to fly their flags from their truck beds? Go back to your country if you’re offended at the Anerican flag.

  503. TxRaider210 Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 11:41 am
    TxRaider210 Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 11:40 am
    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 11:37 am
    The Big Banana Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 11:37 am
    Guest123 Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 11:30 am
    The only rehabilitation a child molestor should be allowed is good pair of cement shoes in a deep lake!

    —————

    I support this motion.

    —-

    Too fast of a death.

    ———
    Throw the sick pervs in general population for life

    —-

    In El Salvador.

    ———–
    Yessir, I think it was you who noted that they barbeque their prisoners every couple years lol

  504. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Whatever dude, I am not here to stand up for Penn State or anything. I agree with you, they should be placed on AT LEAST a 5 year suspension of the football program.

    Just made the point about your own backyard, with some facts for you and a link as you requested.

  505. guest123 Says:

    I wish they’d throw Sandusky into general population, but at his age, you just know he’ll get his own private white collar crime cell. Sandusky wouldn’t last 5 minutes in GP.

  506. KoolKell Says:

    Alright, Ok, California or UC Cal embraces child molesters. Next stupid conversation.

  507. KoolKell Says:

    I couldn’t open the link btw.

  508. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Why should the football program be penalized?

    They already are gonna lose their recruits as it is.

    This is beyond football.

    They should come down on the school, not the football program. IMO.

  509. KoolKell Says:

    * Alright, Ok, California or UC Cal embraces child molesters. Next stupid conversation?

  510. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I couldn’t open the link btw.

    ***********************

    Well don’t let your mouse outthink you, lol.

    It works, I just clicked on it.

  511. TxRaider210 Says:

    I still think Tyvon’s best play was the last play against Houston. If he doesn’t recognize Schaub may scramble, and decide to blitz in that split second, Schaub probably makes a better throw and not one right to Huffy.imo

  512. guest123 Says:

    What to me seems unbeleivable is common janitors covered up for Joe Pa and Sandusky fearing for their minimum wage jobs. Really, what people sell out young boys to keep a crap job? It almost makes this whole thing like a conspiracy. Hard to fathom.

  513. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 11:46 am

    Alright, Ok, California or UC Cal embraces child molesters. Next stupid conversation.

    ————–

    Let’s hear about those fabulous new listings you’ve been bragging about. We could use a few good laughs.

  514. RaiderRockstar Says:

    no more Branch comments after you guys saw him on film?

    typical …

  515. TxRaider210 Says:

    RR
    I gave him props on post 511

  516. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Why should the football program be penalized?

    *****************************

    Seriously?

    This whole thing manifested in the football program.

    We aren’t talking about tattoo’s or something here, we are talking about child rape.

    And child rape victims are at a much more higher rate then the rest of society to become a rapist.

    A vicious cycle of ruining lives was hatched in the halls of the football program ONLY.

  517. KoolKell Says:

    Aw geez, Dumb Beech is dying for my attention now.

  518. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 11:51 am
    Why should the football program be penalized?

    *****************************

    Seriously?

    This whole thing manifested in the football program.

    We aren’t talking about tattoo’s or something here, we are talking about child rape.

    And child rape victims are at a much more higher rate then the rest of society to become a rapist.

    A vicious cycle of ruining lives was hatched in the halls of the football program ONLY.

    —-

    Yea, sure. The old program.

    Take away bowl wins, etc.

    But the kids and current staff dont deserve punishment for something they had no involvment in.

  519. RaiderRockstar Says:

    is TB a gazillionaire yet ??

    nobody misses Al Davis more than Tyvon Branch right now…

  520. guest123 Says:

    Branch is also a smart player. I think he is very good at diagnosing a play and making the correct decision on where to break mid play. If our defense was actually good, that would be a common trait. But TB33 can sniff out a play better than his teammates and is usually on the play. And he knows how to bring down the ballcarrier once he’s on him. Tackling is a very underrated talent. Once again comparing and calling out his teammates.

  521. Just Fire Baby Says:

    But the kids and current staff dont deserve punishment for something they had no involvment in.

    ***********************

    Collateral damage. Let the kids transfer without having to sit a year.

    The NCAA has to be EXTREMELY heavy-handed here to send a message.

  522. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 11:53 am
    is TB a gazillionaire yet ??

    nobody misses Al Davis more than Tyvon Branch right now…

    —-

    Do you over exxagerate everything? OR just the things that push your opinion?? lol

  523. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 11:53 am
    But the kids and current staff dont deserve punishment for something they had no involvment in.

    ***********************

    Collateral damage. Let the kids transfer without having to sit a year.

    The NCAA has to be EXTREMELY heavy-handed here to send a message.

    —-

    Ok. Fair enough I guess.

  524. guest123 Says:

    nobody misses Al Davis more than Tyvon Branch right now

    ******

    true that!

    gazilllionaire? Naw, but I think he gets his deal done before the day is out. I’ve been hearing things. Just saying it looks optimistic.

  525. Raiderbuck Says:

    NFL Network showing DMAC’s Rookie year right now.

  526. TxRaider210 Says:

    guest123 Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 11:53 am
    Branch is also a smart player. I think he is very good at diagnosing a play and making the correct decision on where to break mid play. If our defense was actually good, that would be a common trait. But TB33 can sniff out a play better than his teammates and is usually on the play. And he knows how to bring down the ballcarrier once he’s on him. Tackling is a very underrated talent. Once again comparing and calling out his teammates.

    ———–
    Well said man, that’s exactly what he did to Schaub. He saw him looking to possibly run for the TD and decided to rush and get the hands up enough to force a turd of a throw.

  527. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 11:51 am

    Aw geez, Dumb Beech is dying for my attention now.

    —————

    Just having fun bagging on you, pops. Lighten up.

    As usual, we know you can’t come up with a reply. It’s all good brah, Rasta Ganja in full effect

  528. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Raiderbuck Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 11:56 am
    NFL Network showing DMAC’s Rookie year right now.

    —-

    Must be a short show?

  529. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    Dudes, I just got down on this stripper’s clit-o-rama and now I’ve some mean hiccups

    Heading out for some Olive Garden, gonna greenhouse the Party Van on the way over

    You know I’ll be sneaking home some authentic Italiano bread sticks in my swim trunks, holla

  530. guest123 Says:

    Hey guys, I’m steppin….heading out a little early today.

    You all have a happy Friday the 13th. Don’t cross any black cats or step under any ladders, hear!

  531. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Week 2 of D-Mac’s rookie year was his best game ever I believe.

    In Cable’s ZBS scheme BTW.

  532. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Starting to lean towards Taylor taking Mitchell’s roster spot.

  533. hwnrdr Says:

    The Big Banana Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 11:43 am
    Hwnrdr Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 11:29 am
    Don’t like Berkeley, simply because they don’t want to offend any other Nationalities by flying the American Falg. Excuse me? What country is California in again?
    Not sure if that still happens but it wasn’t too long ago…

    —————–

    What a truckload of crap. That’s just stupid. Offend other nationalities? Meanwhile other nationalities feel free to fly their flags from their truck beds? Go back to your country if you’re offended at the Anerican flag.

    Thank You!

  534. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Starting to lean towards Taylor taking Mitchell’s roster spot.

    ***********************

    Don’t know anything about this “Taylor” guy, but as long as he can be servicable on teams units, I am already in support of it.

  535. Just Fire Baby Says:

    People have talked up Tollefson as a DE, but isn’t his biggest impact so far in his career, been done on Special teams?

  536. TxRaider210 Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
    Starting to lean towards Taylor taking Mitchell’s roster spot.

    ***********************

    Don’t know anything about this “Taylor” guy, but as long as he can be servicable on teams units, I am already in support of it.

    ————-
    Agreed, MM34 runs himself out of plays far too frequently imo

  537. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
    People have talked up Tollefson as a DE, but isn’t his biggest impact so far in his career, been done on Special teams?

    —-

    He made his name when Tuck & Osi went down..

    HI ability to play DE,DT & OLB was key too..

  538. TxRaider210 Says:

    I’m looking for intensity to be the key factor on defense this season. The guys who we know should bring it are Branch, Shonasty, Burris and Bartell imo.

  539. RaiderRockstar Says:

    @ Tx

    Houston game??

    lets break down the highlights…

    Arian Foster on 3rd & 1 runs for 30 yards before who pushes him out of bounds? Branch, baby!

    Routt in the slot gets worked over for a TD by Kevin Walter, lol

    Jason Campbell throws a 50 yard bomb down the sideline to a guy that makes no attempt to catch the football or swat it away from the defender who intercepts it: name that receiver … JFORD!

    King Darrius catches the ball, makes one guy miss, breaks two tackles and scores a TD.

    Schaub throws a screen pass to his wide open Fullback who would have scored a sure TD on a clueless Q Groves, 6 yards away

    who busted up Houston’s interior OL and forced Schaub to scramble on the Huff INT to seal it? John Henderson

    Kev Walter makes a beautiful diving catch against my man Huffy

    Q Groves [again] pathetic excuse for an attempted tackle, Foster gets 60 yards on a screen pass.

    John Henderson deflects a Schaub pass and LaMarr Houston makes the INT, MM34 blocking like somethng fierce on the INT return

  540. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    LOL..

    What does all that have to do with Branch making a nice play on the game decider?..

  541. TxRaider210 Says:

    RR,
    I hear what you’re saying, but if Branch doesn’t put the heat on Schaub when he scrambles, I believe Houston scores on that play.jmo

  542. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    :)

  543. RaiderRockstar Says:

    if Branch doesn’t put the heat on Schaub when he scrambles, I believe Houston scores on that play

    ***

    @Tx

    who made “the play” ??

    Huff watching Schaub’s eyes. Branch watching his belt buckle (right Sully? – lol)

    Henderson dismantles the pocket, DE’s coming in from both sides

    you want to give all the credit to TB??

    lol … alright pal

  544. TxRaider210 Says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txaVcYKpEy0
    ————
    If Branch doesn’t adjust on this play and rush Schaub, he’d have ran right to the corner of the goal line for the score.

  545. TxRaider210 Says:

    Not giving Branch all the credit, but if not for his play, it’s a TD walk in for Schaub easily.

  546. theghostronin79 Says:

    When will then be now?..

    ============

    SOOOOOON

    —-

    (Spaceballs?)

  547. RaiderRockstar Says:

    If Branch doesn’t adjust on this play and rush Schaub, he’d have ran right to the corner of the goal line for the score.

    ***

    @ Tx

    and why does Branch have the luxury to freelance and notice that Schaub is scrambling ??

    because every one of his receivers was absolutely blanketed 1-on-1

    I give credit to 10 players. It would be easy to give it all to my man Huff Daddy though, lets be honest, if I was playing the game that you gents are

  548. theghostronin79 Says:

    Not giving Branch all the credit, but if not for his play, it’s a TD walk in for Schaub easily.

    =========

    YUP

  549. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    theghostronin79 Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
    When will then be now?..

    ============

    SOOOOOON

    —-

    (Spaceballs?)

    —-

    Yessir.

  550. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    theghostronin79 Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
    Not giving Branch all the credit, but if not for his play, it’s a TD walk in for Schaub easily.

    =========

    YUP

    —-

    Easy to see.

  551. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Korver traded to Hawks.

  552. TxRaider210 Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
    If Branch doesn’t adjust on this play and rush Schaub, he’d have ran right to the corner of the goal line for the score.

    ***

    @ Tx

    and why does Branch have the luxury to freelance and notice that Schaub is scrambling ??

    because every one of his receivers was absolutely blanketed 1-on-1

    I give credit to 10 players. It would be easy to give it all to my man Huff Daddy though, lets be honest, if I was playing the game that you gents are

    ————–
    You have good points bro, I just think Branch made the best adjustment on that particular play, but yes it is a team sport.

  553. RaiderRockstar Says:

    speaking of this play …

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txaVcYKpEy0

    can anybody tell me what the heck #55 is doing??

    LOL!!

  554. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    We are exactly 1 month away from the 1st Raiders game.

    Monday Night vs the Cowboys.

    :)

  555. TxRaider210 Says:

    I think anyone could have intercepted that girly throw that Schaub was forced to make..jmo

  556. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I think anyone could have intercepted that girly throw that Schaub was forced to make

    ***

    @ Tx

    and any safety in the middle of the field looking for something to do that saw a QB take off, would run after him!

  557. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    I think my favorite INT of the year is between:

    -Huff sealing the win in the ‘Al game’

    -Branch picking off Sanchez in the endzone

    -Giordano’s sideline pick of Orton

  558. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Scola officially amnestied. :)

  559. TxRaider210 Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
    speaking of this play …

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txaVcYKpEy0

    can anybody tell me what the heck #55 is doing??

    LOL!!

    —————–
    Turdlando went to get some Gatorade right quick on that play. lol

  560. TxRaider210 Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
    I think anyone could have intercepted that girly throw that Schaub was forced to make

    ***

    @ Tx

    and any safety in the middle of the field looking for something to do that saw a QB take off, would run after him!

    ————–
    You have a point there, but Branch did come from the end zone and was in Schaub’s grill faster than most SS’s would be imo.

  561. RaiderRockstar Says:

    training camp opens 07/30 , right?

    3 more weeks until we get a legit DAV 53 man roster prediction !!

  562. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
    training camp opens 07/30 , right?

    3 more weeks until we get a legit DAV 53 man roster prediction !!

    —-

    They’re all legit.. too legit.

  563. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Turdlando went to get some Gatorade right quick on that play. lol

    ***

    thats what i’m saying, Tx !!

    with #55 running around like a lost puppy, there was basically just 9 guys on the field that play – even more impressive. Chuck B for MVP

  564. TxRaider210 Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
    Turdlando went to get some Gatorade right quick on that play. lol

    ***

    thats what i’m saying, Tx !!

    with #55 running around like a lost puppy, there was basically just 9 guys on the field that play – even more impressive. Chuck B for MVP

    —————
    I can agree with all of that except the Chuck B part.lol

  565. RaiderRockstar Says:

    @Tx

    against Houston, Rolando World Peace was playing hurt.

    that should win him some sympathy votes when that play is reviewed by McClain apologists !!

  566. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Dwight Howard will be a Rocket the day the Bulls decide to match or not match Asik’s deal.

  567. TxRaider210 Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
    @Tx

    against Houston, Rolando World Peace was playing hurt.

    that should win him some sympathy votes when that play is reviewed by McClain apologists !!

    ————–
    Yep, well regardless if I call him Turdlando now, I’ll still think all these guys should get a chance in a legitimate scheme that isn’t predictable.

  568. TxRaider210 Says:

    Brees signed for 5yr/100 mil, 60 mil guarantee in first 3 yrs with year one to pay 40 mil of it. dang

  569. Just Fire Baby Says:

    can anybody tell me what the heck #55 is doing??

    *********************

    Uhhhh…..shadowing maybe the best RB in the league out of the backfield AND SINGLE-HANDILY taking him out of the play.

  570. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
    can anybody tell me what the heck #55 is doing??

    *********************

    Uhhhh…..shadowing maybe the best RB in the league out of the backfield AND SINGLE-HANDILY taking him out of the play.

    —-

    Darren McFadden was in that play?? For the Texans?? :)

  571. RaiderRockstar Says:

    KC in hot water ??

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/13/chiefs-preached-kill-the-head-and-the-body-will-die-too/

  572. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Larry Lumpkin to the Colts

  573. hwnrdr Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
    KC in hot water ??

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/13/chiefs-preached-kill-the-head-and-the-body-will-die-too/

    Wasn’t the very first play of Carson Palmer in Silver & Black end in Tamba Hali trying to attack the legs/knees of Palmer?

  574. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    Just crapped my entire Taste of Tuscany parmesan crusted chicken into an old Carl’s Jr bag

    We were cruising back to the penthouse in the Beeech Party Van when I felt the poo missile getting ready to launch

    It was either the local library john of the CJ bag

    Brahs, all 7 members of the Certified Platinum Posse barfed at the same time when I unleashed, totally epic

  575. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Lin signs offer sheet. Once Knicks match, Rockets will sign Asik to offer sheet. Once Bulls match, Howard trade will be finalized.

  576. Just Fire Baby Says:

    The Bulls should not match, just to screw everything up and have everything blow up over Omar Asik, lol.

  577. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
    The Bulls should not match, just to screw everything up and have everything blow up over Omar Asik, lol.

    —-

    They already have that planned for too.

    If Bulls let Asik walk, trade has adjusment ready.

  578. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I give credit to the Rockets for trying to do something drastic.

    In the NBA you either want to be at the top or the bottom.

    Being stuck in the middle, does you no good. If they trade everybody for Howard and Howard bolts, then great, hopefully you go 20-62 the next year and win the lottery.

    Beats going 40-42, and drafting Terrence Jones at #16 every year.

  579. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    But Bulls are believed to be matching.

    Brewer & Watson being released, Korver traded points to that too.

  580. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
    I give credit to the Rockets for trying to do something drastic.

    In the NBA you either want to be at the top or the bottom.

    Being stuck in the middle, does you no good. If they trade everybody for Howard and Howard bolts, then great, hopefully you go 20-62 the next year and win the lottery.

    Beats going 40-42, and drafting Terrence Jones at #16 every year.

    —-

    Exactly.

    Worse case is you tried. Sold some jerseys & Tickets.

    Best case is he doesnt want to lose his Bird rights, and stays.

  581. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Also, Rockets believe all else fails they can flip Dwight at the trade deadline too.

  582. Just Fire Baby Says:

    In the NFL you can stay in the middle grounds, hopefully not 2 drafts in a row out of the park, and basically be like the 49ers last year (or something like that).

    Can’t do it in the NBA.

    Look at the Pacers-Heat series. The Pacers have drafted exceptionally well and had the 3rd through probably 7th best players on their team.

    But, they didn’t have the top 2 players, and lost in 6.

    Life in the NBA

  583. Just Fire Baby Says:

    *hopefully KNOCK 2 drafts in a row……..

  584. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    This new Rasta Ganja jam – my all star reggae side project – is seriously off the hizzle

    I’m sure we’ll be performing it live this weekend when we play this romantic seafood restaurant in San Juan Cap

    Nothing like stoney jams about Jamaican mommas and a classy salad bar

    After I wipe my crack I’ll drop a verse, mo swizzle

  585. Just Fire Baby Says:

    That’s why I am so cynical of the Dubs.

    It’s like ohhhh…we got Jarret Jack, and Bogut and Harrison Barnes.

    Those guys are going to go in most nights, and be AT BEST the 3rd best player on the floor.

    As Derrick Coleman so eloquently once stated:

    “Whoop de damn do”

  586. PlunkforHOF Says:

    Drew Bress signed, fine all well and and good… but F@CK YOU! THERE IS NO “WHO DAT NATION”. There is one Nation.. the Raider Nation.. we wear Silver and Black. You can find us in Oakland. Take your “Who Dat” and pound it up your a$$es.

  587. PlunkforHOF Says:

    hwnrdr Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
    RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
    KC in hot water ??

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/13/chiefs-preached-kill-the-head-and-the-body-will-die-too/

    Wasn’t the very first play of Carson Palmer in Silver & Black end in Tamba Hali trying to attack the legs/knees of Palmer?

    %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%

    It was friggin obvious HWN.. The guy should have been tossed from the game.

  588. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    Totally hard to write sweet reggae lyrics when two strippers are 69ing in the kitchen

    I’m all like – what, my bearskin rug isn’t good enough for you hizzies?

    Yo, taking this new jam all the way to the TOP, it’s all about getting stoney, making love to some Jamaican ladies and then taking a relaxing, soft duece

    Trust me, after the poo bomb I laid in the Carl’s Jr bag, that sounds like a Hawaiian vacation

  589. hwnrdr Says:

    PlunkforHOF Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
    Drew Bress signed, fine all well and and good… but F@CK YOU! THERE IS NO “WHO DAT NATION”. There is one Nation.. the Raider Nation.. we wear Silver and Black. You can find us in Oakland. Take your “Who Dat” and pound it up your a$$es.

    LOL, that always makes me laugh!

  590. Raidernationdave Says:

    I remember I chastised Florio once for one of his hater articles on the Raiders. The dude actually called me back to argue his point with me.

    Tool.

    ++++++++++++++++

    guest123 Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 10:10 am

    “On paper, at least, the Raiders don’t at all resemble a truly bad team.” – PFT

    Nice analysis. No hate there. At least we don’t cause Florio to dry heave.

  591. The Big Banana Says:

    Hwnrdr Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 11:25 am
    The Big Banana Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 11:10 am
    @Hwnrdr – been to the Raider Nation celebrations? Good times?

    I have been to one in 06, the Art Shell year! That one was held in the coliseum. Good times? I guess what you make of it! At the time I was trying to get through the crowd to get an autographed Moss cap, now that I look back at it, glad I didn’t!
    All in all though, it is an experience! Especially meeting all teh Raiderettes! LOL

    ———-

    Thanks, Hwnrdr

  592. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Seahawks release Mike Williams.

  593. The Big Banana Says:

    I remember I chastised Florio once for one of his hater articles on the Raiders. The dude actually called me back to argue his point with me.

    ——-

    Lol. Calling a fan? What a mo-ron.

  594. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Only 7 more days till TDKR drops mother f*ckers! Gonna get my bag of Raisinets and and do it up real. You know what I’m sayin?

  595. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
    Only 7 more days till TDKR drops mother f*ckers! Gonna get my bag of Raisinets and and do it up real. You know what I’m sayin?

    —-

    Batman >

  596. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    Is that your lame Genius Gays album?

    Sounds wack, sorry Puss

  597. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    The Beeech Dawg Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
    Is that your lame Genius Gays album?

    Sounds wack, sorry Puss
    ——-
    You one whack mother f*cker. TDKR is Batman biotch.

  598. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    Batman, even worse

    Do you get a Genius Gays gang discount – 1 seat for you and Madden Retard to share? I can see it now

    Puss – You dropped your Milk Dud in my box of Raisinetes

    MR – You dropped your Raisinete in my box of Milk Duds

    Puss – Wait a minute, that’s not a Milk Dud

    MR – Wait a minute, that’s not a Raisinette

    END SCENE

  599. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Elton Brand is officailly a Dallas Maverick.

  600. PlunkforHOF Says:

    Batman? What are you, 12 years old? This is a Raiders blog.

  601. Raidernationdave Says:

    They could’a paid him with donuts!

    ++++++++++++++++++++++

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 1:50 pm

    Seahawks release Mike Williams.

  602. PlunkforHOF Says:

    lol @ Capt Stubing.

  603. KoolKell Says:

    Ahh, Troll feeding time?

  604. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Troll, troll, troll your boat…

  605. hwnrdr Says:

    Have a good weekend Nation! Cleaning up and heading home!!!

  606. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 2:13 pm

    Ahh, Troll feeding time?

    ———

    Guess so. What are you going to eat today, Troll King?

  607. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    Albert Puss, you should take old goat Krappy with you to see Batman

    I’m sure he’ll try to squeeze into his 1950’s Robin costume and get his head stuck in a tub of popcorn

  608. wasbanned Says:

    Tick-tock, tick-tock…

    Get Branch signed already!!!

  609. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Attn: Reggie McKenzie

    let that bum play out the year on the tag please

    don’t fold under pressure. Monday can come and go, we’re still fielding the same team in 2012

  610. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Tyvon Branch is a bum now!?!? LOL.

    Classic RRS.

  611. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Antagonize, antagonize…

    LOL..

  612. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Tyvon Branch

    ***

    Who ???

  613. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
    Tyvon Branch

    ***

    Who ???

    —-

    Mike Jones.

  614. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Clown shoes.

  615. ▌▌▌SPECIAL MODERATOR ALERT ▌▌▌ Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 10:37 am
    I think the NCAA should suspend the Penn State Football program
    ——————————————————-

    Why? Because of one rotten egg you gotta make all the other hard working student/athletes pay for one mans crime? I think they better monitor coaches with a little more scrutiny and discretion and try to weed out the perverts, but don’t make the honest people pay for the sinners disease.

    Penn State is gonna be on the clean up and up now because everyone is gonna be lookin at them and their program real close. Throw the pervert and his accomplices to the wolves, hungry wolves, and let the people continue. I believe the tragedy eventually killed Joe Pa, and hopefully the proverbial sh*t hits the fans with the pedo-ring, and those bastards get drug outta the closet feet first, but again good sir, don’t punish the student/athletes.

  616. KoolKell Says:

    Why? Because of one rotten egg you gotta make all the other hard working student/athletes pay for one mans crime? I think they better monitor coaches with a little more scrutiny and discretion and try to weed out the perverts, but don’t make the honest people pay for the sinners disease.

    Penn State is gonna be on the clean up and up now because everyone is gonna be lookin at them and their program real close. Throw the pervert and his accomplices to the wolves, hungry wolves, and let the people continue. I believe the tragedy eventually killed Joe Pa, and hopefully the proverbial sh*t hits the fans with the pedo-ring, and those bastards get drug outta the closet feet first, but again good sir, don’t punish the student/athletes.
    ———————————–
    Football programs have been suspended for a lot less.

  617. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Everyone have a safe weekend.

    God Bless.

  618. KoolKell Says:

    You too, DAV.

  619. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    Yo, just got a fresh bag of reefer!

    Gonna get hella high and then take a stripper to Joe’s Crab Shack

    Soft shell action all up in here

    BIGGIE REPRESENT

  620. TxRaider210 Says:

    The Beeech Dawg Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 3:41 pm

    Yo, just got a fresh bag of reefer!

    Gonna get hella high and then take a stripper to Joe’s Crab Shack

    Soft shell action all up in here

    BIGGIE REPRESENT
    ——————-
    EEyy Jack, yall got the Joes shack in those parts too? Ditto on the dank, it’s weekend on!

  621. TxRaider210 Says:

    Peace out DAV, enjoy the one day wknd !

  622. TxRaider210 Says:

    Every wknd seems like it’s 1 day, schit just passes way too fast.

  623. TxRaider210 Says:

    Branch = Beast. I will be buying the 33 and 56 maybe 21 jerseys this year.

  624. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    First I get my shack on, then I get loose with dem ladies

    You KNOW them clams are bitin’ back

    TARTAR SAUCE IN THE HOUSE

  625. TxRaider210 Says:

    First got 2 pitchers of Zeigenbocks, lit up the doofer and crankin the boosie n webbie! Where DMAC been?

  626. TxRaider210 Says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g54Fg04llC4
    —————
    Some real schit to get folks ready for some gravy! R.I.P Pimp Chad

  627. Missus Beeecham Says:

    YO YO YO Bizzies

    Me and mt girlfriend are goin high steppin tonite. We goin to Lucies Parlor and then cruisin the strip. You know me and my girlfriend aint got nothin to hide. We havin guest over for some train wrck (guarenteed headache) wine. We let it all hang.

    WIZZLE UP GUZZLE UP SLURP N BURP

  628. Raiders for life Says:

    Too bad the RAIDERS don’t play the bears this season. It would be interesting if Soup and Bush started.

    Hopefully DWOW doesn’t have the injury bug and violates Stan Routt twice this year.

  629. The Big Banana Says:

    Hopefully DWOW doesn’t have the injury bug and violates Stan Routt twice this year.

    ————-

    :shock:

  630. I405Raider Says:

    These lightning storms are intense. Been goin on for almost 24 hours.

  631. Sullivan44 Says:

    When bowl ineligibility and t.v. bans are handed down to schools, innocent players are collateral damage. Yet the punishment remains. To not punish PSU would actually be to make an exception for them. They’ve been punished enough? Heck, I’d say they’ve gotten away with enough. If you’re concerned about the players, perhaps give them the option of transferring without legal consequences stemming from their letters of intent, etc, and pay for their transportation. Everyone else? I’m sorry. Mere livelihoods are not more important than justice. Adults are responsible for themselves, and that includes career risk. Time for them to either punch up their resume`s, or stick it out with the school until the punishment has been served.

  632. KoolKell Says:

    I405Raider Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 6:21 pm

    These lightning storms are intense. Been goin on for almost 24 hours.
    —————
    Where you at?

  633. MistaBrown Says:

    KK Munster, he might be in the 405. What do you think ?________

    KoolKell Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 6:45 pm

    I405Raider Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 6:21 pm

    These lightning storms are intense. Been goin on for almost 24 hours.
    —————
    Where you at?

  634. JB Says:

    A very interesting read from ESPN regarding Joe Paterno & the scandal at Penn State.

    http://espn.go.com/espn/story/_/id/8162972/joe-paterno-true-legacy

  635. raidertbone Says:

    The NCAA should just shut the mutha down for a year or so. If any team deserved a “death penalty” for transgressions, it’s Penn State, right now. Apologies to all those who get caught in the crossfire, but this is WAY worse than what SMU did over twenty years ago, IMO. Let all the recruits transfer out, then they can start all over again in 2014, once they’ve cleaned up their house. I’m not a Penn State hater – but I do think that the kid victims deserve some strong justice.

  636. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Check out Branch’s twitter acct:

    https://twitter.com/tyvonbranch/

    1. wants to go roller skating
    2. into laser tag & Go Karts
    3. wants to see the Abe Lincoln vampire movie
    4. “Just took an amazing dump! It was a good one just felt like I had to share that with yall lol” 07/02/12. TB = Beeech Dawg ??
    5. Podunker ?? listens to Country music (Sugarland), talking about bonfires & bbq. quotes Ricky Bobby

  637. RaiderRockstar Says:

    [HD] Tyvon Branch Ultra Highlights

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWABfIK3w-U

  638. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Tyvon Branch interview

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=097dRhvHsl8

  639. r8eray Says:

    Wow….RRS, joining the P.M. Crew?

  640. Silverandblack666 Says:

    I am joining the PM crew with RR as well.

  641. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    I would rank Branch in the upper echelon of safeties in the NFL. That’s my personal opinion and it’s certainly a debatable contention.

    Is he worthy of a franchise tag ? I’m not sure.

    But I’ll ask again – if you’re not going to completely blow up the Raider defense, if you want to have some semblance of continuity, if you want to retain a young vet that’s played relatively well – if not Branch, then who ?

    I’d say that Branch might be the Raids most dependable defensive asset. I’d rank him as the unit’s best and most reliable tackler. I’d place him as pound for pound the hardest hitter on the defense. Besides Branch, I’d only classify Curry as being a real ‘banger’ on defense – someone that will line you up and knock the snot out of you.

    Branch cartainly has not shown a proclivity for making game changing plays like an Ed Reed or Troy Polamalu, thus far.

    However, Branch brings an element of reliable tackling and physicality. If you’re not going to blow the whole D up and start from scratch, IMO he’s the most viable candidate to build around.

  642. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    DjSandusky44 wants justice lmwao

  643. I405Raider Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 6:45 pm
    I405Raider Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 6:21 pm

    These lightning storms are intense. Been goin on for almost 24 hours.
    —————
    Where you at?
    —————————————————-

    Woodinville, WA

  644. KoolKell Says:

    Nice Post 99. I agree.

  645. KoolKell Says:

    Just north of Seattle……….wow in July?

  646. Raidernationdave Says:

    That’s truly a dude thang. Taking a gigantic turd that’s so fkn big you wondered if it would actually flush and then tellin’ the homies all about it. Those toilet turtles usually come at the worst moments too like when you’re gettin’ ready to get your freak on but that reptile wants to swim. Oh, and those dragons always stink the worst!

    ++++++++++++++++++++++

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 7:25 pm

    4. “Just took an amazing dump! It was a good one just felt like I had to share that with yall lol” 07/02/12. TB = Beeech Dawg ??

  647. Raidernationdave Says:

    Mrs. Shizzlenizzle in da hizzle fo shizzie.

    ++++++++++++++++++

    Missus Beeecham Says:
    July 13th, 2012 at 5:34 pm

    YO YO YO Bizzies

    Me and mt girlfriend are goin high steppin tonite. We goin to Lucies Parlor and then cruisin the strip. You know me and my girlfriend aint got nothin to hide. We havin guest over for some train wrck (guarenteed headache) wine. We let it all hang.

    WIZZLE UP GUZZLE UP SLURP N BURP

  648. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Trade McFizzle!

  649. The Big Banana Says:

    Morning crew representing in the PM. I also took a bodacious dump earlier today. Felt like a new man.

  650. Missus Beeecham Says:

    Me and my girlfriend roll deuces on the kitchen table. We ain’t got nothin to hide. We drink wine, cheap wine, and have guests over for entertainment and serve snacks on paper plates. The we swing on the door. We dry hump the floor. We just have a good time cuz we ain’t ashamed and got nothin to hide. My girlfriend likes me for who I am after that cheating bastard husband of mine came home with crabs. We past that now. We just slurp n burp and lookin forward to some tail gating if you get my drift.

  651. Missus Beeecham Says:

    Just to let all you dudes know, my girlfriend just dropped a two part deuce that would put any deuce roller to shame. She ain’t got nothin to hide. Then we rolled the two part deuce over and named it.

  652. fingers Says:

    Branch…Signed…..

  653. Raiders for life Says:

    Wow…I wasn’t expecting a deal to get done.

  654. Mr Green Says:

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82a8c34e/article/tyvon-branch-oakland-raiders-reach-fouryear-deal?module=HP11_breaking_news

    :mrgreen:

  655. fingers Says:

    Palmer opened up cap room….I got on twitter … 4 yr deal… Good for us….. Raidersssss

  656. Bob Marley Says:

    The deal is worth $26.6 million, $17.1 of which is guaranteed, NFL.com’s Steve Wyche reported.
    ————————————————

    Congratulations to Tyvon Branch.

  657. Mr Green Says:

    http://buzztap.com/link.jsp?id=11810974&cid=28

    Where was Bishop when we REALLY needed him? Better late than never. Bishop, Napolean, I like it!

    :mrgreen:

  658. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Raider Nation-Station

    Congrats to S Tyvon Branch for signing a new 4 yr deal with the Oakland Raiders. We love you Ty!

    RNS FB half an hour ago…

  659. Nnamdi21 Says:

    656. Gr8 job Marley!~ Have a good morning man!

  660. da trinity Says:

    This site sucks, cork and jerry are lame. The only thing that makes this site are the bloggers. Their probably going to take all day before they update the status of branch contract signing. SMH.

  661. Bob Marley Says:

    Good deal both for Branch and the Raiders.

    Branch gets good money and will be a Free Agent again at age 29 with a chance to get another decent deal to finish out his career and the Raiders lock up a pretty good player entering his prime.

  662. da trinity Says:

    @ 658
    Those guys are on it. They take there stuff serious.

  663. xraided Says:

    17 mill guaranteed is NOTHING folks!

    what a great deal for a future great player.
    we’ve talked about it, he has a very slim chance in failing in this new system. he’s had to do so many things and be in the wrong positions over the years, all because of TERRIBLE play calling … now he’s in a traditional SS position on a multi-look defense… it’s going to be exciting folks.

  664. xraided Says:

    plus, here comes Benson! can’t complain about that, as long as he stays away from the DUI’s…

    Monday you will read ‘Benson visits the Raiders’

    we all know what happens to guys take a plane and visits Raider HQ’s, right? dotted lines and ink, baby!

  665. xraided Says:

    Tyvon won’t be a guy that gets paid and stops trying either… this will motivate him more to get a bigger sized contract in a few years, much like Griffin’s.

    another great Al Davis pick.
    Thanks Al.

  666. BewareofRaiders Says:

    Think Benson is next?

  667. xraided Says:

    i know he is.

    watch, ‘Benson visits OAK for a work out’

    i do believe NFLN now that i see they pay more for inside info … seeing as La Canfora was reporting ‘Branch and OAK’s deal is the closest of all of them’ … the fact they reported many times over about ‘Benson wanting to play for the Raiders’ and ‘the only thing is slowing the deal down in money’ from everyone tells me a deal is imminent.

    IF ANYONE CARES: Rice is about to sign as well.
    (yea you don’t want to piss your only offensive weapon off!)

  668. Bob Marley Says:

    Yeah, the Raiders traded up for the 1st pick in the 4th round to get Branch, great pick now validated by Reggie McKenzie and Dennis Allen.

  669. xraided Says:

    as many other Al picks will be coming up in the next couple of years. why do you think he doesn’t want this team to get penalized anymore and go over the cap every year? so he can afford DMC and SHO-nasty when they’re FA”s after this year. both of them will prove to be the best players on the team for their side of the ball… and Reggie knows this.

  670. xraided Says:

    *coming up for new contracts

  671. KoolKell Says:

    Bob Marley Says:
    July 14th, 2012 at 9:11 am

    Yeah, the Raiders traded up for the 1st pick in the 4th round to get Branch, great pick now validated by Reggie McKenzie and Dennis Allen.
    ——————-
    So happy Mr Davis has been vindicated. ;-)

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