Raiders confirm Branch signing
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Saturday, July 14th, 2012 at 7:48 pm in Oakland Raiders.
The Raiders tied up one loose end heading into training camp by agreeing to terms with franchise free agent strong safety Tyvon Branch to a reported four-year deal worth $17.6 million in guaranteed money and a maximum value of $28 million.
The Raiders confirmed the deal Saturday evening, without referring to terms of the contract, after it had been reported earlier by CBS Sports and the NFL Network.
Had Branch not received a multi-year deal by Monday, he would have played for the approximately $6.2 million figure as a franchise free agent and then faced free agency again next year.
According to Scout.com, citing league sources, Branch gets a $5.6 million signing bonus and will be paid $16.1 million over the first two years of the deal.
Branch’s signing will free up money under a tight salary cap for the Raiders to bring in an additional player or players if desired.
They have yet to announce deals with third-round draft pick Tony Bergstrom, a guard out of Utah, or wide receiver Juron Criner, a wide receiver from Arizona, although the Raiders had room to bring in both players whether Branch signed a multi-year deal or not.
With Branch’s deal netting as much as $4 million in cap savings, speculation will immediately turn to veteran running back Cedric Benson. Although unconfirmed by the club, Benson has been speculated as a heavy-legged successor to the departed Michael Bush.
Benson, 29, has gained 3,429 yards over the last three seasons with the Cincinnati Bengals, although he has averaged under 4 yards per carry in each of the last two years.
Entering his fifth season out UConn, Branch, who has at team-high 337 tackles over the past three seasons, was much improved in coverage in 2011 after being occasionally victimized in 2009 and 2010.
Should Branch, 25, blossom in the new defensive system as installed by coach Dennis Allen and defensive coordinator Jason Tarver, Branch will come at a bargain rate considering what he would have been worth a year from now.
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July 14th, 2012 at 8:00 pm
1st yeehaw!
July 14th, 2012 at 8:48 pm
DEUCE
July 14th, 2012 at 8:49 pm
Reggie is a hard-nosed negotiator.
July 14th, 2012 at 8:57 pm
Imagine there’s no countries
It isn’t hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion, too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace
You, you may say I’m a dreamer
But I’m not the only one
I hope someday you will join us
And the world will be as one
Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world
You, you may say I’m a dreamer
But I’m not the only one
I hope someday you will join us
And the world will live as one
July 14th, 2012 at 9:01 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 14th, 2012 at 6:51 pm
The thing is,,that the Raiders had a good o-line last year, probably better this year.
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IMO, no contest. The 2012 O-line will be much stronger. Getting rid of the weak middle, Satele & Carlisle, and replacing them with Wiz 2.0 & Brisel can be nothing but an upgrade. I don’t believe Carlisle will end up starting at OLG. Either Bergstrom, Barksdale, Wang, Hurd or some other newbie will be taking that spot solidifying that O-line as one of the biggest, strongest & most efficient lines in the NFL. They will serve DMac & CP well. Top 5 offense this year.
July 14th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
Who here learned of the murder of John Lennon while watching Monday Night Football and if so can anyone remember who was playing?
July 14th, 2012 at 9:29 pm
Frank Pollack said he can only suit up so many O-linemen. One of the reasons he moved Bergstrom to LG. Said he needs his guys to play any position if needed.
Also, happy to hear the Branch deal is official.
July 14th, 2012 at 9:32 pm
Good deal reg. Well worth the wait.. AL would have offered 3 times as much $$..
July 14th, 2012 at 9:33 pm
Chico,
You like/ liked Tebow and now you think V Miller is great and he is going to have 20 sacks?! What’s up with you and Denver?
July 14th, 2012 at 9:47 pm
Nice thing about the Donks defense…The Raiders head coach knows all about it.
July 14th, 2012 at 10:14 pm
I don’t think their defense is that good. They have a few good players, I think they improved this season, but they were ranked 20th last season. They allowed 24+ points and around 360 yards per game.
July 14th, 2012 at 10:22 pm
What’s crackin Nation? McKenzie thinks Branch is the real deal. I will always root for Al Davis draft picks to succeed. The first off-season without Al, doesn’t feel right.
July 14th, 2012 at 10:28 pm
This is a good/great idea. Inking Branch for the long term is a strong move. I think the kid is really good, hard to judge guys on the Raider D the past decade or so, the whole concept was tainted imo…
July 14th, 2012 at 10:29 pm
Getting rid of the scholarships and getting guys who want to play football will only help the D. NFL D is all about want to…
July 14th, 2012 at 10:35 pm
I can agree with that statement. Now that Al has past away I don’t want to belabor his decisions over the past twenty years. Sometimes you just have to “let it be”
July 14th, 2012 at 10:46 pm
We are traveling in the footsteps
Of those who’ve gone before
But we’ll all be reunited
On a new and sunlit shore (then a new world is in store)
Oh when the saints go marching in
When the saints go marching in
Oh lord I want to be in that number
When the saints go marching in
And when the sun begins to shine
And when the sun begins to shine
Oh lord I want to be in that number
When the saints go marching in
When the moon turns red with blood
When the moon turns red with blood
Oh lord I want to be in that number
When the saints go marching in
On that hallelujah day
On that hallelujah day
Oh lord I want to be in that number
When the saints go marching in
Oh when the trumpet sounds the call
Oh when the trumpet sounds the call
Oh lord I want to be in that number
When the saints go marching in
Some say this world of trouble
Is the only one we need
But I’m waiting for that morning
When the new world is revealed
When the revelation comes
When the revelation comes
Oh lord I want to be in that number
When the saints go marching in
When the rich go out and work
When the rich go out and work
Oh lord I want to be in that number
When the saints go marching in
When the air is pure and clean
When the air is pure and clean
Oh lord I want to be in that number
When the saints go marching in
When we all have food to eat
When we all have food to eat
Oh lord I want to be in that number
When the saints go marching in
When our leaders learn to cry
When our leaders learn to cry
Oh lord I want to be in that number
When the saints go marching in
July 14th, 2012 at 10:50 pm
Raiders for life Says:
July 14th, 2012 at 9:47 pm
Nice thing about the Donks defense…The Raiders head coach knows all about it.
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ReggieMac knew what he was doin
BTW, Ya’ll know I’ve got my ticket and my bags packed for Nawleens
July 14th, 2012 at 10:51 pm
If the Raiders do sign Benson it would almost certainly mean one of Goodson or Jones is on the outer. Most likely Goodson. The Raiders still have some big HBs in Rashawn Jackson and Lonyae Miller, so Benson isn’t necessarily a shoe-in if Reggie/Dennis see serviceability/potential in one of them as the short yardage back.
Taiwan Jones probably is in a good position. He’s putting on a bit of bulk and is actually pretty good between the tackles as well as game-changing breakaway speed on the outside. If Dmac went down, Jones would become the feature back.
July 14th, 2012 at 10:55 pm
Jones is to raw to be the lead back IMO.
July 14th, 2012 at 11:12 pm
Jones can be the featured back if called upon…
July 14th, 2012 at 11:12 pm
We would have seen a TON of TJONES had he not been hurt.
July 14th, 2012 at 11:36 pm
JB Says:
July 14th, 2012 at 9:01 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 14th, 2012 at 6:51 pm
The thing is,,that the Raiders had a good o-line last year, probably better this year.
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IMO, no contest. The 2012 O-line will be much stronger. Getting rid of the weak middle, Satele & Carlisle, and replacing them with Wiz 2.0 & Brisel can be nothing but an upgrade. I don’t believe Carlisle will end up starting at OLG. Either Bergstrom, Barksdale, Wang, Hurd or some other newbie will be taking that spot solidifying that O-line as one of the biggest, strongest & most efficient lines in the NFL. They will serve DMac & CP well. Top 5 offense this year.
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I agree with you JB. It seems that Reggie has done as much as he possibly can to make the “O” superlative next season. I was surprised he took such action to place the biggest and best youngsters there. He has demonstrated that he wants to cement that line for years to come.
The line may just make the top 5.
July 14th, 2012 at 11:37 pm
And btw, such an “O” line will be amenable to any back the Raiders may acquire. DMAC worshippers take notice: DMAC is going down on or before game 8 for the season and will never wear a Raider’s uniform again.
DMAC is too injury prone and fragile for Reggie. More importantly the “worshippers” miss the fact DMAC has averaged only 40 yds rushing against first tier, playoff bound teams. Just because he runs right over the lowest of the low, means little in the long run. DMAC has never had a superlative game against a #1 team.
A great player has to be a play maker against the best teams, not only the worst. Plus Mcfadden can’t catch well.
Compare DMAC to Adrian Peterson or or Arian Foster. They are in a much higher category than DMAC because they have run right over the best defenses of the best teams in football.
Sorry, to throw cold water on ya, worshippers, but those are the facts. Anyway, you guys remind of JC worshippers who claim JC was the re-incarnation of Jim Plunkett.
Fiddlesticks !!!
July 15th, 2012 at 12:08 am
Blackandsilverside,
It’s no secret that McFadden has not been able to stay healthy for an entire season, but your wrong about his ability to catch, dude has hands and has proven it (when called upon).
July 15th, 2012 at 12:45 am
TheGreatness Says:
July 15th, 2012 at 12:08 am
Blackandsilverside,
It’s no secret that McFadden has not been able to stay healthy for an entire season, but your wrong about his ability to catch, dude has hands and has proven it (when called upon).
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Greatness,
You don’t understand what I am saying. DMAC is just not that good. True, he runs right over teams in the cellar, such as his performance first game against Denver last season. But Denver was at its worst. I don’t count games like that.
As described above, DMAC averages less than 40 yds per game against top tier contenders. Anyone can look good competing against talentless loses. Put DMAC in a real ball game, and he looks terrible.
Now then, in 4 seasons of play DMAC has 2627 yds on the ground and 1191 in the air.
On the other hand, in 4 season of play, Micheal Bush, as a back up RB, gained 2642 yds on the ground and 879 in the air.
Many posters here go on and on that Michael Bush is a sclub and that DMAC is a miracle man. That, my friend is simply untrue.
When DMAC goes down for the season with a dinged hangnail on or before game 8, there will be huge hole in the Raiders running game.
Poor skinny legged Taiwan Jones won’t do anything and will go down with an injury. He is at least,or more, fragile than DMAC.
The rest of backs we have are flotsom clanging against the dock.
All you DMAC worshippers out there: he aint that good; he’ll down for the season soon; and, because of that our running game will be nowhere.
Remember my disclaimer, DMAC will always let us down when we need him the most, especially when playing teams like the Patriots, Saints, Green Bay, SF. Simply stated, DMAC is trash….
So worshippers, just remember my words here, so that when I rub your face in them 4 months from now you won’t feel bad.
July 15th, 2012 at 12:52 am
Will you not feel that bad if Mcfadden plays 12-14 games and has a great year? Don’t you want the Raiders to win or do you just care about being right?
July 15th, 2012 at 12:57 am
I root for all players that wear the silver and black, flaws and all. I just want our guys to succeed. That said I totally get baggin on a player who’s not gettin it done. Seems like some would rather be right about someone or something MORE than caring about the Raiders winning!
July 15th, 2012 at 12:59 am
I seem to remember DMAC embarrassing the Jets D. I do think that DMAC is going to hold back just a bit this year though. We can all agree that Reggie isn’t going to break the bank on an injury prone rb, so he wants to reach over a thousand yards but complete the season. Of not, he won’t get paid by any team.
July 15th, 2012 at 2:54 am
Should Branch, 25, blossom in the new defensive system as installed by coach Dennis Allen and defensive coordinator Jason Tarver, Branch will come at a bargain rate considering what he would have been worth a year from now
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The only potential hiccup there is the word “should”.
This seems like a good deal though especially since it frees up some money.
The Offensive line is changing with musical chairs being the game of the day and we need some stability there.
I’d like to see Bergstrom signed soon and we do need a replacement for Bush.
It seems like a sensible contract from McGregor.
July 15th, 2012 at 3:34 am
GG Says:
July 14th, 2012 at 10:51 pm
If the Raiders do sign Benson it would almost certainly mean one of Goodson or Jones is on the outer. Most likely Goodson. The Raiders still have some big HBs in Rashawn Jackson and Lonyae Miller, so Benson isn’t necessarily a shoe-in if Reggie/Dennis see serviceability/potential in one of them as the short yardage back.
Taiwan Jones probably is in a good position. He’s putting on a bit of bulk and is actually pretty good between the tackles as well as game-changing breakaway speed on the outside. If Dmac went down, Jones would become the feature back.
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GG-You must have bumped your head.
Goodson is the backup right now…Jones hasn’t done a thing in the NFL as of yet….
As far as Benson goes…if Reggie goes that route…it will prove to be a major mistake!
July 15th, 2012 at 3:50 am
Jones has only played 10 games in his entire career and has never started or had to carry the load. Only 16 carries last year….and you are already making him McFadden’s backup….
Maybe he will be…if he earns it with a strong camp….
However…when we factor in what Goodson has already done in the NFL:
28 Games
125 Carries
43 Receptions
76 Kick Returns
It is easy to see that Goodson at this point in time is the backup….
I know the knock on Goodson is his fumbles…as he has 5 in his career (his team only lost 3 of them)….but when we factor in the fact that he has 244 touches (kick returns included) in 3 seasons it isn’t as big of an issue as some in here are making it out to be.
If ball security a major issue…HELL YES….and if he even puts it on the ground once in the pre season I’ll be the first on board to kick his ass to the curb…..but for now…this moment…with what WE KNOW…
Mike Goodson is Darren McFaddens backup!
I don’t care how fast Jones is…..he hasn’t shown me a thing….
July 15th, 2012 at 3:52 am
“IS” ball security a major issue…HELL YES…
oops, I fumbled!
July 15th, 2012 at 4:58 am
I’m just speculating backstagepuppetshow that IF we sign Benson, it means one of Goodson or Jones is a goner. And I just don’t see us getting rid of the super-talented and young with plenty of room to grow Taiwan Jones IF Benson is signed. Goodson has been in the league a little longer and also still young etc. But out of Goodson or Jones you take Jones as a project.
Also, we all know Jones is raw etc. But he’s bulking up (like Dmac did his first two years), and that’s what camp and RB coaches are for….to train up a raw project like Jones and see him develop into a feature back should Dmac go down. As Jones has the same kind of game-changing ability as Dmac has.
July 15th, 2012 at 5:21 am
This was taken this week…..
Doesn’t look bulked up to me…..and comparing him to McFadden is laughable on so many levels….
http://twitpic.com/a66t8x
July 15th, 2012 at 5:32 am
Whether y’all like it or not, CP3 and DMAC are the straws that stir the drink for this team this year. With an improved (hopefully!) defense, we can carve out 9 wins because of a very tough schedule and at least make it to the dance. I would be thrilled to get 14 games out of DMAC this year – and if he produces anywhere near to the level where he did previously, people will be asking the question: “Who is Chris Johnson?”
July 15th, 2012 at 5:46 am
I believe Goodsen was brought in to take the place of Rock Cartwright on special teams more than replace Bush as the backup RB.
If we bring in Benson, I doubt it will have much of an impact on Goodsen’s roster spot.
He was brought in as an emergency backup and special teams ace.
July 15th, 2012 at 5:50 am
Wrong
July 15th, 2012 at 6:00 am
Good Morning NATION
and my GreenParty brothers!!!
coffee and donuts are on me.
July 15th, 2012 at 7:13 am
JFB,
I totally agree, Goodson has been a bright spot in the panther’s ST unit. No reason to release him if we sign Benson.
July 15th, 2012 at 7:34 am
Jones isn’t going anywhere. Agree with JFB that Goodson is here more for ST and depth.
July 15th, 2012 at 7:39 am
Goodson may or may not stick, but Jones is too much of a threat to let go.
July 15th, 2012 at 7:54 am
Timberwolves president David Kahn is from Portland and once covered the team as a sportswriter for The Oregonian
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From beat writer to team president????
Cmon Corky, you’re slacking!
July 15th, 2012 at 8:07 am
Thers nothing wrong with having 4 rbs.
July 15th, 2012 at 8:09 am
And the depth chart isnt set. Anybody not named mcfadden could end up being the back up rb. Its a new staff..
July 15th, 2012 at 8:11 am
AL would have gone 5 yrs, 55mil for tyvon…
July 15th, 2012 at 8:28 am
The Branch signing is not a leap of faith, as some seem to think.
He has played well and improved each of the last 3 years, he excells at what SS are supposed to do, which is tackle well and cover TE’s, he can even play a little slot CB as he did last year and blitz as his 4 sacks in 2010 proved (both useful skills when disguising your Defense).
Dennis Allen used to be a Safety himself in college and a Pro DB Coach, he’s an expert at the position, I’m guessing he loves what he’s got in TB.
McKenzie and DA made sure Branch was going nowhere by placing the Franchise Tag and then signig him to a long term deal, that speaks volumes of his value for the team.
July 15th, 2012 at 8:51 am
Woo hoo! We have some cap space!
July 15th, 2012 at 8:57 am
On Mike Goodson.
I think he was brought in to be the back up and to take over if McFadden goes down, with his ST skills an added bonus that Bush didn’t provide.
And so far,it appears that way:
* With Darren McFadden attending a youth football camp, Mike Goodson is getting the bulk of first-team tailback reps at OTA’s this week.
Per beat writer Jerry McDonald, Goodson “got most of the first-team work and continued to impress.”
This is what Reggie and DA have said about Goodson:
“We wanted to acquire another player to compete at the running back position,” McKenzie said.
“He can do a lot of things in our scheme on offense. He’s very versatile, he has natural running skills, he’s a great receiver out of the backfield, and he has kick-return ability. I’m anxious to see if he can put all that together here as a Raider.”
A fourth-round draft pick of the Panthers out of Texas A&M in 2009, Goodson had a breakout second season in 2010, carrying the ball 103 times for 452 yards (a 4.4-yards per carry average) and three touchdowns while catching 40 passes for 310 yards.
“Good athlete,” Raiders rookie coach Dennis Allen said of Goodson.
“Has some speed, some running skill, been really impressed with him. From the mental standpoint, he’s done a nice job. Obviously, I think there’s something to work with with him.”
July 15th, 2012 at 9:41 am
I’m officially awarding the off-season C’mon Man award to Dungver’s D.J. Williams. Not only did his urine come back as non-human(aka synthetic piss) once, but it came back the same the 2nd time around. Oh yeah, and on the 3rd attempt, a worker noticed a container fall from his waist-band. Ey D.J., C’mon Man!!lol
July 15th, 2012 at 9:46 am
Bob Marley
Good read on Goodson man, I think dude has potential, but we shall see.
July 15th, 2012 at 10:04 am
Goodson can certainly play RB in this league. The issue with Goodson is he puts the ball on the ground. If he has those problems solved he can be a VERY productive back.
July 15th, 2012 at 10:14 am
Yep, as long as he doesn’t fumble in the pre-season and beats out Taiwan, let the man run!
July 15th, 2012 at 10:25 am
Bush.
True, I failed to mention his fumbling issue, better get it fixed.
I read that last year he was fumbling in pre-season and lost Ron Rivera’s confidence, then he was lost for the year after 4 games with a severe tear in his leg.
Still, the pff.com site had Goodson pegged for a breakout season last year:
“He had the best yards-per-carry (4.4) of the three (DeAngelo Williams and Jonatahan Stewart) and is PFF’s pick for a breakout season after creating 27 missed tackles on just 139 touches (19.4 percent). That was the fourth-best rate in the league.
An excellent receiver who caught 40 balls, Goodson showed he’s far more than a third-down back with his performances against the Ravens (120 yards rushing, 31 receiving) and Falcons (7.8 ypc).”
Hopefully his predicted breakout season comes here for us.
July 15th, 2012 at 10:32 am
Exactly Bob. And of note is the fact that he had a better YPC average and DeAngelo Williams and Jon Stewart are no slouches either!
July 15th, 2012 at 10:34 am
Kelly has been a VERY good running back coach for us going through a few administrations here. If Kelly can’t get Goodsons fumbling problems solved, no one can. A minor adjustment in the way he carries the rock might just do it.
July 15th, 2012 at 10:42 am
Seymour Bush Says:
July 15th, 2012 at 10:34 am
Kelly has been a VERY good running back coach for us going through a few administrations here. If Kelly can’t get Goodsons fumbling problems solved, no one can. A minor adjustment in the way he carries the rock might just do it.
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Very true man, I’m looking for these RBs and Reece to run all over Dallas next month in the ZBS.
July 15th, 2012 at 10:49 am
raidertbone Says:
July 15th, 2012 at 5:32 am
Whether y’all like it or not, CP3 and DMAC are the straws that stir the drink for this team this year.
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Absolutely!!!! DMoore and Jano and Lechler are the ice cubes and the D is the liquor. Dennis Allen is the bar tender and Big Reg is the bouncer. I like it.
And when we get to Nawleens, it will be drinks on the house.
July 15th, 2012 at 11:21 am
raiderpete Says:
July 15th, 2012 at 12:59 am
I seem to remember DMAC embarrassing the Jets D. I do think that DMAC is going to hold back just a bit this year though. We can all agree that Reggie isn’t going to break the bank on an injury prone rb, so he wants to reach over a thousand yards but complete the season. Of not, he won’t get paid by any team.
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RaiderPete,
DMAC performed very well against the Jets last season; however, the Jets were bottom of the barrel in D when they played the Raiders.
Just like I say, DMAC does wonderful against lower-tier teams, but falls apart against top tier teams.
In week 1, against Denver, DMAC gained 150 yds on 22 carries, which was an excellent performance against one of the worst teams in the NFL, at the time. Denver was in complete disarray, in the cellar, with a pitiful defense.
In week 2 against Buffalo, DMAC gained 72 yds on 20 carries: a relatively mediocre performance against an average team.
In week 3 against against the Jets, DMAC gained 171 yds on 19 carries: a superlative performace against one of the worst defenses in the NFL at the time.
In week 4, against the Patriots, DMAC gained 75 yds on 14 carries: an average performance against a top tier team.
In week 5, against the Texans, DMAC gained 51 yds on 16 carries: an insubstantial performance against a great defense.
In week 6, against the Browns, DMAC gained 91 yds on 20 carries: a good performance against a horrible defense, bottom of rung for decades.
In week 7, against the Chiefs, DMAC gained 4 yds on 2 carries: total non-performance against a bottom rung team, at the time.
Btw, Michael Bush gained 96 yds on 19 carries against Denver, a much improved team, at that time in the season.
Also, when DMAC went down against the Chiefs, Bush gained 99 yds on 17 carries.
IMO, Reggie should have really sucked it up and retained Bush. DMAC should never be the featured back and should remain in a backup position.
Some may ask what happens if DMAC does play between 12 to 14 games this season? My answer to that is he will probably gain nearly 1000 yds. But so what? In the games that are critical against top tier teams, McFadden will always fail, based upon his record.
Face it, we need another Marcus Allen or Bo Jackson who gain on average 1500 yds on the ground and 500 through the air, who come through in the most important games, and not only against riff-raff.
July 15th, 2012 at 11:25 am
Great news… now we need to get some free agents in… more interested in a veteran TE and veteran LB or CB … Benson would be an insurance policy, I guess, but I get a feeling he is not a McKenzie kind of player. I have a feeling a bruiser back, 3-yards- and-a-cloud of dust guy could be had as teams make roster cuts. Rather get more help on D and a TE
July 15th, 2012 at 11:31 am
Kept bush and started him over dmac??? No Way! Crazy talk..
July 15th, 2012 at 11:41 am
Marks hair Says:
July 15th, 2012 at 11:31 am
Kept bush and started him over dmac??? No Way! Crazy talk..
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Marks Hair,
If you check the stats between the two backs, both running for 4 seasons, Bush has more yards on the ground than McFadden.
Think about it: if McFadden got 15 carries behind Bush, DMAC would gain approximately 125 yds per game.
Here is the reasoning: DMAC is fragile, although a slasher who can break away for huge gains. Bush is a formidable performer, especially under a coach who knows how to use him, running behind a superlative line. If Bush pounded the defense initially, and absorbed the bulk of the punishment the “D” meted out, then bring in DMAC.
I submit it’s not crazy talk. With DMAC at the forefront, he’ll go down for the season quickly.
July 15th, 2012 at 11:42 am
Is this DMAC’s contract year?
July 15th, 2012 at 11:54 am
Raiders for life Says:
July 15th, 2012 at 11:42 am
Is this DMAC’s contract year?
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yes, I believe so.
July 15th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
Anyone know anything about maybe Sanchez coming to the Raiders so we can have the USC QB trifecta? That would be so awesome. Tebow will get the job and you know Sanchez wants to be a Raider. Sweet.
July 15th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
Raider Quiche Says:
July 15th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
Anyone know anything about maybe Sanchez coming to the Raiders so we can have the USC QB trifecta? That would be so awesome. Tebow will get the job and you know Sanchez wants to be a Raider. Sweet.
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No chance. The Jets see him as their franchise QB, at least for now.
July 15th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
Dumervil ..another knucklehead …what’s with these guys and guns
July 15th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
Broncos’ Elvis Dumervil arrested on felony charge of aggravated assault with a firearm (twitter)
He must have been hanging with Rolando McClain & picked up his bad habits.
Dumervil icking up a felony is no small deal. After his time in the slammer the commissioner will no doubt slam him too. we may not see one of Denver’s to D people next year. Without Dumervil, Vonn Miller becomes much less of a threat on D. Good for us, bad for them.
July 15th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
Darren McFadden:
6/5/2008: Signed a six-year, $60 million contract. The deal contains $26 million guaranteed, including a $6.4 million “log” bonus and a second-year roster bonus of $5 million. 2012: $5.65 million, 2013: $5,856,250, 2014: Free Agent
-Roto
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no, this is not DMAC’s contract year!!
July 15th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
A 16-game starter each of the past three seasons, Branch has excelled in run support, notching at least 104 tackles every year since 2009. He graded out as Pro Football Focus’ 20th best safety in 2011.
Source: Jason La Canfora on Twitter
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/4871/player?r=1
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is this true??
Reggie is paying the 20th ranked safety $8 million + this year?
July 15th, 2012 at 1:28 pm
Thanks RRS. Guess I coulda looked it up myself.
July 15th, 2012 at 1:28 pm
If so, where is the “value” in that ??
sounds like Reggie got hosed!!
July 15th, 2012 at 1:31 pm
Mornin dudes, me and my girlfriend had a good time last nite. lots of wine. We ain’t got nothin to hide. We know how to have a good time. “when the trailer is rockin, dont come knockin”
You know my ex husband could learn a thing or two from my girlfiend.
July 15th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
Knicks sign-and-trade for Raymond Felton
Knicks do not match offer, Landry Fields is a Raptor
Jason Kidd arrested on DWI charge
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sheesh, any NBA news this weekend NOT Knicks related??
July 15th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
Rockstar, awhile back I thought you posted that you live in Mid Cal?
July 15th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
@ RFL
I lived in CA for 23 years (209, baby!)
moved to Missouri about 6 years ago..
July 15th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
Right on RRS. I live near the beautiful town of Fresno.
July 15th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
Rock,guess you’ll have to continue your hate/smear campaign for another 4years
July 15th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
cool, Life
you gonna make it to any games this year??
season tix holder, perhaps?
July 15th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
Whut up beyotches! Me? I’m busy blankin’
July 15th, 2012 at 1:55 pm
lol @ Lefty
you don’t think Branch will play better for Allen/Tarver than he did last year for Jackson/Bresnahan or Cable/Marshall in ‘09 & ‘10 ??
I dont “hate” Tyvon, just think he still has a ways to go and a lot to prove. At this point, I wouldnt call him great or elite. Right now he’s below good, from what I’ve seen. He’s average, but I admit he’s got loads of potential
July 15th, 2012 at 2:01 pm
I like Branch’s motor & effort. Like his toughness and tackling skill. Like his speed and special teams ability.
what bothers me is he doesn’t make enough plays and he’s not very good in coverage.
Can I get a forced fumble, pass defensed, tackle for a loss, sack or interception ???
or am I getting Gibril Wilson all over again, who will make a ton of tackles after getting WAY overpaid and then be deemed absolutely worthless the following offseason?
for the record, Gibril was loved by many Raider fans as well.
July 15th, 2012 at 2:03 pm
@ RRS,
Naw, no games this year. Last one I went to was in ‘09 and got the privlidge of seeing J. Russell.
Good for you for getting out of here though. It’s not getting any better.
July 15th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
Gibril Wilson:
2005 – 112 tackles in 16 starts
2006 – 100 tackles in 15 starts
2007 – 92 tackles in 13 starts
signs with Oakland
2008 – 129 tackles in 15 starts. 1.5 sacks, 1 safety, 4 passes defensed, 2 INT’s and a forced fumble
season over?? he gets cut and signs with Miami
2009 – 93 tackles in 14 starts
is the tackle stat overrated?
July 15th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
Todays Raider Nation Poll:
Who would you rather see in Silver and Black?
Jay Cutler or Brady Quinn
Jason Campbell or Rex Grossman
Ryan Grant or CJ Spiller
Jason Baben or Collin Jenkins
July 15th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
@Smuckers
none of the above, really
given those choices though?
Cutler, Campbell, Spiller & Jenkins
July 15th, 2012 at 2:24 pm
Todays Raider Nation Poll:
what former Raider and current free agent would you like to see us re-sign prior to training camp??
player must not be employed by another team or over the age of 35
my vote goes to Johnnie Lee Higgins!!
July 15th, 2012 at 2:24 pm
One thing I noticed was the low signing bonus.
That is the type of thing to keep your cap legit.
Good contract for both sides, and Branch will be a lot better in his more condensed role this season.
July 15th, 2012 at 2:28 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 15th, 2012 at 2:24 pm
Todays Raider Nation Poll:
what former Raider and current free agent would you like to see us re-sign prior to training camp??
player must not be employed by another team or over the age of 35
my vote goes to Johnnie Lee Higgins!!
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Napolean Kaufman, probably still has some juice, and Lester Hayes as a coach.
July 15th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
player must not be employed by another team or over the age of 35
my vote goes to Johnnie Lee Higgins!!
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Give Knapp and DeFilpo Jamarcus Russell back.
They loved that guy.
July 15th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
if I could pick 2 more, it would be a pair of 33 year olds …
CJ37 – because we’re paper thin at CB
Doug Jolley – because we got nobody at TE !!
“Jolley is currently a math teacher at Sunset Ridge Middle School in West Jordan, Utah.” – WIKI
lol
July 15th, 2012 at 2:33 pm
@Smuckers
Kaufman is 39, doesnt meet criteria
July 15th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
J Hill Says:
July 15th, 2012 at 2:24 pm
One thing I noticed was the low signing bonus.
That is the type of thing to keep your cap legit.
Good contract for both sides, and Branch will be a lot better in his more condensed role this season.
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Agree. Wonder if this contract essentially amounts to a 3 year 17 million deal with 9 mill or so backloaded to that 4th year, at which point we’d restructure or release if it didn’t pan out.
July 15th, 2012 at 2:40 pm
@Jhill
Russell turns 27 in a few weeks. Wouldnt that be something if the biggest bust in NFL history came back after 2 years out of the league [without having to play for guys like Davis, Kiffin, Cable, Hackett or Tollner] and took the league by storm ??
especially after the Purple Drank arrest, his life coach walking out on him and the rumors of him being over 300 lbs with sleep apnea.
Cant think of a better redemption story. Michael Oher & Michael Vick would have nothing on that!!
July 15th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
Russell’s not interested, as evidenced by his lack of effort and dedication. Be nice if he gave it a good shot, but not happening folks. He’s happy eating himself silly, getting jiggy with the purple drank, and sleeping 12 hours a day. Besides…he has a major flaw….he’s not a leader.
July 15th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
I know there are quite a few Huff haters on this blog, but I dont see anybody begging Reggie to re-sign Schweigert or Eugene.
same with Mike Mitchell at SS. would you guys like to have Derrick Gibson or Marques Anderson back??
Zac Etheridge was a rookie camp sensation last year, remember?
Jerome Boyd is only 26!
July 15th, 2012 at 3:01 pm
and took the league by storm ??
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Easy there greasy, lol.
We’re talking about MAYBE beating out a scrub like Leinart or a project like Pryor.
He would have to be a good soldier holding a clipboard and running scout teams for at least a couple of years before anyone would trust him as a #2 or a starter.
July 15th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
JaFatass Russell has everything he needs and all the Purpledrank he wants.
He has no motivation nor reason to play in the NFL again.
July 15th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
Easy there greasy
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sorry Jhill!
I have a tendency to overreact, lol
July 15th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
RR, first off i hate you for even mentioning his name!
the simple fact is, if JaBackFat wanted to come back, he would have by now. that man is DONT with life in general.
he took his fat guaranteed money and put it away or invested it so he would ensure himself NEVER to play football ever again. he dogged it in practice, preseason, and in the regular season games constantly.
simply put, he won the lottery, and that’s it.
July 15th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
J HIll
JR couldn’t hold a clipboard. he can barely stand on his power for more than a few minutes… before he’d have to sit down and down some skittles. i wouldn’t even trust him to hold a clipboard.
July 15th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
first off i hate you for even mentioning his name!
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X,
Jhill brought him up, I just took his car and drove it off the cliff.
boldness is often mistaken for stupidity, ask my man DAV!
July 15th, 2012 at 3:19 pm
LMAO!
yes well, it does get dry in here at this time of the year…
they need to go ahead and sign Criner&Bergstrom… then Benson & EJ Henderson … then we’re set.
we could afford that being 4+ mill over the cap right?
July 15th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
Skittles are off-limits to backup QB’s ??
what about Mark Sanchez starting for the Jets and eating hotdogs on the sidelines?
If I ever see Matt Leinart with a Snickers bar, he’s dead to me!
the Great Gradkowski would never do such a thing
July 15th, 2012 at 3:25 pm
Jerry states “Branch’s deal netting as much as $4 million in cap savings”
we were already over a million UNDER the cap and had plenty of room to sign the rookies, according to Steve Corkran.
I’d like to think we could get Benson & Henderson for less than $4 million!!
Tollefson has always been a depth player though and he got $2.5 million per season from Reggie. Benson & Henderson are used to starting. Who knows if they are willing to settle for backup gigs or play for the vet minimum at this point in their careers??
July 15th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
yes well, the difference is Sanchez or Leinart weren’t 300 lbs a piece … so they can get away with that.
i’d accept double-bubble gum or a fat dip in a their lip …
July 15th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
JLH was good then he got popped real hard and never was the same after that.
Alligator arms!
July 15th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
good call on Tollefson’s contract. that’s a lot of doe for a roll player, although i expect him to have 6+ sacks and a bunch of tackles this year. he’ll have more of a roll then he did in NY …
EJ Henderson will have a starting gig … by the time McLame comes back, EJ will have already won our hearts..
why?!
because he reads running plays well and clogs lanes. he makes the tackles at the LOS without getting stood up all the time. he had 109 tackles while fighting a sore knee all year, if i’m not mistaken.
he’d be well worth 2.5 mill a year, and give Benson his 1.7-1.9 mill a year, while leaving room for Berg and Criner(those two guys need to sign already, for the normal rate. they haven’t played a down yet, get it done.)
if Reggie wants to cap off this value signing FA period that he put together, he’d make it happen.
July 15th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
yes well, the difference is Sanchez or Leinart weren’t 300 lbs a piece … so they can get away with that.
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fair enough, X
I just think you’ve gotta hold all players to the same standard. Remember when Russell ordered fish for dinner in his pre-draft visit?
ah, the good ole days!
July 15th, 2012 at 3:38 pm
RRS, I think this was more about getting a long term deal rather than clearing cap space.
July 15th, 2012 at 3:38 pm
EJ Henderson will have a starting gig … by the time McLame comes back, EJ will have already won our hearts..
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X,
I wasnt aware youre on the RUE THE DAY #55 list with me and a few others ??
welcome aboard, hopefully he proves us all wrong!
July 15th, 2012 at 3:39 pm
HAHA! yes he wanted to give that skinny, hard working QB that’ll take your team to a SB look … hell, Al still would have drafted the kid had he weighed 300lbs on draft day. his “advisers” would be there to warn him, as i’m told they actually were anyway, but Al saw that cannon arm and fell in love… it was a wrap after that, and we all knew it. makes me cry to think who we could have had.
how many future HOF’ers were top 10 in the 2007 draft? sign… *CRY*
July 15th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
probably so, Banana
you dont see the need for any proven vets though, if we can get them cheap enough??
July 15th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
LOL! yes add me on that list plz, thanks. i believe he CAN just like JaPorkus could have himself, he just has to want to play football. eat breath and sh!t it day in and day out.
to ditch his team and go be a GoodFella back east, and not to mention lie about going to a relatives funeral, it seems like you don’t really care about life in general, doesn’t it? where’s the respect?
yes, he works hard in practice and the coaches praise him thus far after the incident, but i don’t trust he’ll become this run stuffing maniac of a LB. i just can’t buy it.
EJ Henderson is a true professional that keeps his nose clean. plus he’s got a lot of good years under his belt… Wheeler-EJ-Curry , that sounds like a good LB Corp.
with that said, it’s hard to see them signing EJ at this point. Benson should be coming up tomorrow or Tuesday if i had to guess.
BigMac are pitchin a perfect game when it comes to signing guys they bring to our legendary HQ’s, righT?
July 15th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
Maybe a few role playing vets, but anyone we get at this point is a reject and shouldn’t cost much more than the minimum, which would add very little to our cap number.
The only interesting candidate at this stage is Benson. Sign him up and let him spell DMAC/Jones.
July 15th, 2012 at 4:03 pm
not too concerned about any FAs out their right now;
this does give us a little more cap room to pick up a player in a trade though.
July 15th, 2012 at 4:08 pm
Denver just got a little McClain news:
their pro-bowler Dummervil was arrested for aggravated assault involving a firearm.
July 15th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
ohh wowww … SUSPENSION! hurts them a lot more because Dumervil is a stud.. unlike the other guy…
July 15th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
I gotta pinch a nasty turd but a hate droppin’ drawers at work
July 15th, 2012 at 4:17 pm
DMC-Benson-Jones > DMC-Jones-Goodz
Wheeler-EJ-Curry > Wheeler-McClain-Curry
hard to debate that one!
July 15th, 2012 at 4:18 pm
“I gotta pinch a nasty turd but a hate droppin’ drawers at work”
Use the Executive bathroom.
July 15th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
McLain and Dummerville can be cell mates.
July 15th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
their pen names: McLaney & Dumberbish!
July 15th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Anyone who thinks Branch is ranked 20th, is smokin crack imo.
July 15th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
LMAO! not even the pundits at BSPN or NFLN would agree with that ranking… and they hate the Raiders. they rank him top 5.
July 15th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
Anybody think the Raiders got what it takes to mop the field with their oppenents asses this year? I sure do. Not only will they mop the field with some ass, but they’ll be stir fryin some chopped nuts too! Print it.
July 15th, 2012 at 6:01 pm
YO DUDES
Some hussy just tried to swoon my girlfiend at Lucys’ Lounge, but good thing I had my wife beater tank top on cuz I told her we could take it out back and she backed down, so me and my girlfriend left. We aint got nothin to hide. We’re havin guest over later for a deuce droppin contest. My babe can roll with the best. My ex husband could learn a thing or two from my girlfriend.
July 15th, 2012 at 6:10 pm
I just think you’ve gotta hold all players to the same standard. Remember when Russell ordered fish for dinner in his pre-draft visit?
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I heard he ordered a plate of butter, with a side of fish.
July 15th, 2012 at 6:25 pm
Anybody think the Raiders got what it takes to mop the field with their oppenents asses this year?
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Who are we mopping?
We seem to split with KC every year, with the road team winning.
We have finally started to beat SD, but no laughers. Probably not mopping Peyton either.
Maybe Cincy, Cleveland and Carolina, but I would take winnig 2 of those 3 games by 4 points combined.
July 15th, 2012 at 6:30 pm
Year before last we swept the division if I remember correctly.I dont think SD woll be a factor this year. KC will be our toughest opponent in the afc west with denver experiencing some growing pains with Manning. I think we can go 7-1 in the division.
July 15th, 2012 at 6:34 pm
5-1 in the division?
We only play 6 division games.
6-0 two years ago, 3-3 last year.
I am not sold on KC, they have the worst QB in the division by far, and are also probably the youngest team as well.
July 15th, 2012 at 6:50 pm
5-1 in the division sounds about right.
July 15th, 2012 at 7:03 pm
-KC has the best defense in our division IMO, and they can run the ball with JC and Hillis.
-SD has talent, but I’m not sold on them or their coaching staff.
-Denver is overrated. Their defense was ranked 20th last season, allowed 24+ points and around 360 yards per game. Manning is s great QB, but can ge still play at a high level?
Raiders Will Win The West!
We have the best offense IMO (if DMAC stays healthy), and our defense should improve with DA and Tarver. We have as much talent on defense as Denver did last season.
July 15th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
bigsnow81 Says:
July 14th, 2012 at 10:22 pm
What’s crackin Nation? McKenzie thinks Branch is the real deal. I will always root for Al Davis draft picks to succeed. The first off-season without Al, doesn’t feel right.
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Ahhh, it feels beautiful, sane, enlightened…
July 15th, 2012 at 7:18 pm
I say 4-2.
July 15th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
I wonder what season ticket sales look like, now that al is gone. There were a lot of older fans who never forgave him for leaving.
July 15th, 2012 at 7:26 pm
http://www.freepriesttjnow.org
Just my thoughts on JaRu. The dude has suffered enough. We need to leave him alone, no need to dig up the past. Its a new club and a new era. We will win the west.
My smart moneys says big ReggieMac layed down the law with RoMac. Probably explained to him where the bear sh¡ts in the woods. I ain’t worried about it.
July 15th, 2012 at 7:30 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 15th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
I wonder what season ticket sales look like, now that al is gone. There were a lot of older fans who never forgave him for leaving.
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Probably as good as they were last year. Let the man rest in peace. I didn’t care for what he did by leaving but it was his team. And besides, they still wore Silver and Black and they returned to Oakland. We are where we are right now because of Mr Davis. Poised and on the doorstep of greatness.
July 15th, 2012 at 7:30 pm
Why are you always with the negative BS about Al every chance you get.
Come on KK let it go1
July 15th, 2012 at 7:31 pm
I agree. There’s nobody to protect goofballs anymore.
July 15th, 2012 at 7:34 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
July 15th, 2012 at 7:30 pm
Why are you always with the negative BS about Al every chance you get.
Come on KK let it go1
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Stfu troll. I’m a local who’s been following the Raiders for 48 years. I’ll say whatever the fk I like.
July 15th, 2012 at 7:43 pm
Forgave him for what? Relocating HIS BUISNESS?!
July 15th, 2012 at 7:44 pm
Ohioraider Says:
July 15th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
bigsnow81 Says:
July 14th, 2012 at 10:22 pm
What’s crackin Nation? McKenzie thinks Branch is the real deal. I will always root for Al Davis draft picks to succeed. The first off-season without Al, doesn’t feel right.
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Ahhh, it feels beautiful, sane, enlightened…
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It does? Why? Because the HOFer owner/ GM is dead?
You people make me sick.
July 15th, 2012 at 7:45 pm
Al Davis
July 4, 1929 – October 8, 2011
An unyielding total commitment to excellence has marked the three-time World Champion Raiders monumental rise during the last 52 years to the very top of the professional sports world.
In these memorable 52 years, the Raiders have had 28 winning seasons, including 16 in a row from 1965 through the 1980 World Championship season. In 34 of those seasons, the Raiders earned a record of .500 or better.
Al Davis’ six-decade professional football story, from assistant coach of the Chargers, to head coach and general manager of the Raiders, to Commissioner of the American Football League and finally to principal owner and president of the general partner of The Oakland Raiders — is a standard that no one in the history of professional football can match for winning and excellence.
In April 1966, the then 36-year-old Davis, head coach and general manager of the Raiders, became Commissioner of the American Football League. This was a post he accepted reluctantly, for first and foremost, Al Davis was a football coach and knew that assuming the Commissionership would in all probability mean an end to his coaching career.
But AFL owners, in their battle with the rival National Football League, prevailed on Davis to accept the position. He was described by AFL President and Buffalo Bills Owner Ralph Wilson as “a coaching genius and astute administrator.”
Just eight weeks later, when pro football’s two major leagues put an end to their six-year war, Davis was acclaimed nationally as the driving force who brought the leagues to merge. In 1969, he was once again a prime force in the dramatic realignment of professional football when two, 13-team conferences — the AFC and NFC — were formed for 1970.
As a member of the NFL Management Council’s Executive Committee, Davis has been a major factor in achieving collective bargaining agreements with the players.
Al Davis first came to the Raiders in January 1963, dedicated to rescuing the faltering Oakland franchise and building the finest organization in professional sports. Just 33, Davis was the youngest man in pro football to hold the demanding dual positions of head coach and general manager.
But Davis already possessed 14 years coaching experience. He had been tabbed a “young coaching genius” by Sports Illustrated and “the most inventive mind in the country” by Scholastic Coach Magazine.
The Raiders — “picked to finish dead last” — thundered to a 10-4 record and just missed the Division Championship. In 1963, Davis was named Pro Football Coach of the Year.
Perhaps his most singular honor is having made a record nine presentations of inductees to the Pro Football Hall of Fame in Canton, Ohio . The nine great enshrinees to have selected Al Davis to make the presentation speeches on their behalf are Lance Alworth, Jim Otto, George Blanda, Willie Brown, Gene Upshaw, Fred Biletnikoff, Art Shell, Ted Hendricks and John Madden.
Davis himself became enshrined on Aug. 1, 1992 when he was presented for induction into the Pro Football Hall of Fame by Madden. In May of 1991, Al Davis became the very first recipient of the NFL Players Association’s Retired Players Award of Excellence “for his contributions to the men who played the game.” Born July 4, 1929, Al Davis was raised in Brockton, Mass. and moved at an early age to Brooklyn, N .Y. He attended Wittenberg College and Syracuse University, earning a degree in English while participating in football, basketball and baseball. Al Davis received a Letterman of Distinction Award from Syracuse University. In March of 1998, Davis was inducted into the NFL Alumni’s “Order of the Leather Helmet,” presented annually to “Individuals who have made significant contributions to the game of professional football.”
On Dec. 29, 1999, the Oakland Tribune and the Alameda Newspaper Group named Al Davis as the Bay Area’s most significant sports figure of the 20th Century on a list that included such greats as Joe Montana, Willie Mays, Joe DiMaggio and Bill Russell. The Orange Bowl inducted Davis into its Hall of Fame in 2001.
In 1950, Davis was named line coach at Adelphi College in New York. He then went into the Army, being assigned as head football coach at Ft . Belvoir, Va. There he molded a national power service team and capped one season by defeating the University of Maryland, National Collegiate Champions, in a squad game.
Davis next served on the staff of the NFL’s Baltimore Colts in 1954, at age 24, concentrating on player personnel work . During 1955-56, he was line coach and chief recruiter at The Citadel. He then spent three years at the University of Southern California as line coach.
In 1960, Head Coach Sid Gillman hired Davis as offensive end coach of the newly formed Los Angeles Chargers. After two Division Championships in just three years there, it was on to meet the challenges with the Raiders of Oakland in 1963.
Based on personal achievement, team achievement and contributions to the game, no one has had a more profound and lasting impact on professional football. In recognition of his status in pro football annals, NFL Films produced a film entitled, “AL DAVIS, NO. 1 FOR ALL TIME .”
http://www.raiders.com/history/al-davis.html
July 15th, 2012 at 7:45 pm
What’s next? My customers are going to start telling me how to run my business?
July 15th, 2012 at 7:45 pm
Based on personal achievement, team achievement and contributions to the game, no one has had a more profound and lasting impact on professional football. In recognition of his status in pro football annals, NFL Films produced a film entitled, “AL DAVIS, NO. 1 FOR ALL TIME .”
July 15th, 2012 at 7:48 pm
If you don’t like what he was selling, stop complaining, and find a different product/ team.
July 15th, 2012 at 7:50 pm
Raider O Says:
July 15th, 2012 at 7:45 pm
What’s next? My customers are going to start telling me how to run my business?
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Your customers mean nothing to? What customers?
Sure you can run your business anyway you please..
But then he comes crawling back, to years of BLACKOUTS
July 15th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
No Mas Diamante Says:
July 15th, 2012 at 6:30 pm
Year before last we swept the division if I remember correctly.I dont think SD woll be a factor this year. KC will be our toughest opponent in the afc west with denver experiencing some growing pains with Manning. I think we can go 7-1 in the division.
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Sweet, looks like we’re going 2-0 against the SeaChickens.
Evnin Nation.
July 15th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
But, I’m just telling ya, as a local, there’s a lot of people who never forgave him.
When he left, I was disappointed, but my attitude was, whatever is best for the Raiders.
July 15th, 2012 at 7:57 pm
“Stfu troll. I’m a local who’s been following the Raiders for 48 years. I’ll say whatever the fk I like.”
Yes you will even to the extent that you posted his physical address here the day he passed away you low life.
July 15th, 2012 at 7:58 pm
LOL Raccoon.
July 15th, 2012 at 8:02 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
July 15th, 2012 at 7:57 pm
“Stfu troll. I’m a local who’s been following the Raiders for 48 years. I’ll say whatever the fk I like.”
Yes you will even to the extent that you posted his physical address here the day he passed away you low life.
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You lowlife, naaannana
July 15th, 2012 at 8:02 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 15th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
But, I’m just telling ya, as a local, there’s a lot of people who never forgave him.
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The Good Book says to forgive. It’s not that hard to do. We all get butt hurt in this life in one way or another, from time to time. But it is imperative that we learn how to forgive. Relocating your business is a far cry from other atrocities that hace plagued this planet through out its brief history. I rejoiced when they returned.Hey, when they were in that cesspool town of lala land, they were still the Oakland Raiders to me.
July 15th, 2012 at 8:03 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 15th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
I wonder what season ticket sales look like, now that Al is gone. There were a lot of older fans who never forgave him for leaving.
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Right you are. I was one of those. Started buying season tickets in 66 or 67. ad them every year until he left. I was VERY PISSED at AD for abandoning the faithful. I sporadically followed the Raiders while in LA, if it was convenient for me. I followed the team more faithfully when they returned but did NOT buy season tickets until last year. Now I’m back in the fold but I remain pissed for his transgression against his Oakland fans who financially supported the team. I don’t take well to hreats about leaving again for LA. If you are going to go, then go & don’t let the door hit you in the a$$. By leaving for LA, he’ll save me $3800 a year. I’ll simply buy the NFL ticket & a newer bigger Flat screen and be way ahead money-wise. I guess we just get wiser as we get older.
July 15th, 2012 at 8:05 pm
http://www.freepriesttjnow.org
Where’s Priesttj when we need him?
July 15th, 2012 at 8:11 pm
JB
That’s all I’m saying, there were a lot of older fans who never forgave him. Now these little pootbutts are trying to say I’m dissin Al. Just telling the truth. Nothing personal.
July 15th, 2012 at 8:14 pm
I hear that KK.
July 15th, 2012 at 8:16 pm
Civil rights and diversity
Davis breached several civil rights and diversity barriers during his career with the Raiders. In 1963, the Raiders were scheduled to play a preseason game in Mobile, Alabama. In protest of Alabama’s segregation laws, Davis refused to allow the game to be played there and demanded the game be moved to Oakland. He also refused to allow the players to travel to other cities to play games where the black and white players would have to stay in separate hotels.[29]
Davis was the first NFL owner to hire an African American head coach, Art Shell, and a female chief executive, Amy Trask.[1] He also hired Tom Flores, the second Latino head coach in the league
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Davis
July 15th, 2012 at 8:20 pm
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/09/sports/football/al-davis-was-a-maverick-until-his-death.html?_r=2&scp=1&sq=Amy%20Trask&st=cse
July 15th, 2012 at 8:24 pm
Cranberry
When he was an assistant coach a USC, he also organized a boycott on PAC 8 assistant coaches, to allow Black Referees into College Football.
July 15th, 2012 at 8:30 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 15th, 2012 at 8:24 pm
Cranberry
When he was an assistant coach a USC, he also organized a boycott on PAC 8 assistant coaches, to allow Black Referees into College Football.
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As always, great men are ahead of their times. I know haters are going to say he was behind the times this last decade, but he remained true to his vision. Players he had hoped for just weren’t cut from the same cloth that they once were.
July 15th, 2012 at 8:31 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 15th, 2012 at 8:24 pm
Cranberry
When he was an assistant coach a USC, he also organized a boycott OF PAC 8 assistant coaches, to allow Black Referees into College Football.
July 15th, 2012 at 8:34 pm
In Pro Football, you have to win on Sundays. Period. Great Guy, Not so Great Guy. Illustrious past, Not so Illustrius past.
July 15th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
Statistically, DMAC ranked 10th in the league as far as his effectiveness as a receiving RB is concerned.
Bush ranked 7th…Forte was 2nd in the league.
A number of factors go in to the ranking such as catch to drop ratio etc.
Where Bush faltered imo was his poor blocking. Cutler may find that out the hard way.
Bear fans are just going nuts in regard to having Bush on the team.
Bush is ok. 3.8 yds. a carry and under 3 ypc. the last few games is not a slam on the guy…just a statistical fact.
July 15th, 2012 at 9:23 pm
Oh, and Chicago radio was going on about how they now have a guy they can go to when they’re in short yardage situations, especially at the goal line.
I laughed at that one.
Even the Bush lovers (insert joke) admit he wasn’t good in those situations.
Forte has no leverage. He’s gonna play, but Bush will get many touches.
July 15th, 2012 at 9:29 pm
DJ Johnny
How brutal the truth can be. Bush’s recent stats speak volumes as to his being a back-up or starting RB, for any team. His lack of blocking ability or desire will be his undoing. Reggie will see that we can and will do better than Michael Bush as our BU-RB.
July 15th, 2012 at 9:35 pm
I never noticed Bush’s poor blocking ability……….I did notice he came in for an injured DMAC and rushed for near 1000 yds though.
July 15th, 2012 at 9:36 pm
So happy Branch deal got done. Not just to free up cash but becuz I remember how long that drought at safety lasted b 4 him…
July 15th, 2012 at 9:37 pm
166. Bush missed 3 blocks and not really missed, the guys just beat him but that happens. Hes gonna rock for the Bears I guarantee it.
1st round talent all the way.
July 15th, 2012 at 9:40 pm
KK
Poor blocking would have been bad enough. Actually, he was PISS POOR at blocking. Don’t know if it was technique or lack of desire for contact. He is definitely NOT a banger type of a RB. He’s a finesse type runner. His stats in the last 6 games were terrible. He had a couple of good games early on and then ran out of gas. He’ll never live down his famous 3 tries from the 1 yard line and then having to settle for a FG. That really says it all. Bush will be adequate as a BU-RB but will never be a regular FT starter.
July 15th, 2012 at 9:44 pm
what is it? 28 days?
July 15th, 2012 at 9:53 pm
We’ll see. I’m a big Mike Bush fan. Started 6 games last year gained 977 yds
July 15th, 2012 at 9:54 pm
2 weeks, 14 days till camp.
July 15th, 2012 at 10:04 pm
Yu all know we’re makin plans to tailgate. my girlfriend and us bbw’s gonna rock.
July 15th, 2012 at 10:06 pm
YO HO HO
me and my girlfriend and my girlfriends ex girlfriend drinkin some gallo, talkin raider ball. we aint got nothin to hide.
July 15th, 2012 at 10:09 pm
any dudes want to join us at the tailgetin? i’ll be wearin a s&b tank top, lookin to get sloppy. but don’t mess with my girlfriend cuz my ex husband tried that and she said, no way. go dip that thing in some cold water. we let it all hang.
July 15th, 2012 at 10:33 pm
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July 15th, 2012 at 11:00 pm
You can call me bar code.
July 15th, 2012 at 11:05 pm
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July 15th, 2012 at 11:11 pm
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July 15th, 2012 at 11:12 pm
I gotta quit that. It makes me dizzy
July 15th, 2012 at 11:13 pm
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July 15th, 2012 at 11:15 pm
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July 15th, 2012 at 11:20 pm
Bush wasn’t/isn’t bad. He has that other factor of being able to catch a screen pass and run for some yards. He rarely drops passes and one of the best things was his durability.
That being said, we all saw him “tap” his helmet after a few plays and his inability to get a yard on 3rd and 1’s or a couple times on the goal line given 3 chances to pound it in. THAT was disappointing.
If some of you noticed he had almost 1,000 yds. then you noticed also he averaged a paltry 2.9 yds. a carry his last few games and only 3.8 ypc. overall. Anyway you spin it it’s not impressive.
It’s the same reason we don’t get too excited over Benson’s 3.9 ypc. last year despite going for over 1,000 yds. for the 3rd straight season.
Bush brought that other dimension of being solid in his receiving.
I would rank Bush over Benson overall though, but again…that’s not saying much.
Bush WAS a trooper for us and took the rock as asked.
July 15th, 2012 at 11:37 pm
Just means that we’ll see more Reece out of the backfield. Reece seems to do more with the ball when he catches one. Probably just the design of the play but he needs to be more involved with the offense.
July 15th, 2012 at 11:38 pm
I ʜᴀᴛᴇᴅ ᴛᴏ sᴇᴇ Bᴜsʜ ɢᴏ. I ᴛʜᴏᴜɢʜᴛ ʜɪᴍ ᴀɴᴅ Dᴍᴀᴄ ᴡᴏᴜʟᴅ ᴏғ ʙᴇᴇɴ ᴀ ᴛᴇʀʀɪғɪᴄ 1-2 ᴘᴜɴᴄʜ. Bᴜᴛ I ɢᴏᴛ ᴛᴏ ʙᴇʟɪᴇᴠᴇ Rᴇɢɢɪᴇ ᴋɴᴏᴡs ʙᴇsᴛ.
July 16th, 2012 at 1:06 am
154 & 156= the truth
July 16th, 2012 at 3:17 am
[...] Raiders confirm Branch signing The Raiders tied up one loose end heading into training camp by agreeing to terms with franchise free agent strong safety Tyvon Branch to a reported four-year deal worth $17.6 million in guaranteed money and a maximum value of $28 million. The Raider… [...]
July 16th, 2012 at 5:03 am
Good Morning Nation!
Very happy to hear about Branch’s contract extension.
TB33 gets a lot of unfair criticism on this blog for accumulating a bunch of tackles and making no “plays”. I am not going to exaggerate and claim he’s some kind of playmaker along the likes of Polamalu, Reed or Berry. But those elite safeties all got the benefit of quality defensive coordinators allowed to run their schemes outside the meddling hand of their owner. Branch made the plays he could make in the position he was placed by his defensive coordinator. He can’t be held accountable by critical failures of other members of the secondary and linebacking corps. He has proven to be a very effective safety valve for the defense. He’s got blazing speed, good instincts, good football smarts, and can make the open field tackle very well. Hopefully, the new defensive scheme of Tarver under defensive minded head coach Dennis Allen puts Branch in position to make more plays this year.
He certainly has the talent, and at age 25 is coming into the prime of his career. Maybe I’m optimistic, but I think he continues his upward career track and actually improves on his resume with the new regime.
July 16th, 2012 at 5:06 am
Now that we have some cap space, why aren’t we extending a contract offer to free agent TE Visanthe Shianco? According the PFF, he was one of the top blocking TE’s and he’s a decent ball catcher too. Remember how Brett Favre made him a household name for a season or two. He is certainly better than any of our TE’s we are carrying now.
http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/07/15/three-years-of-pass-blocking-efficiency-tight-ends/
July 16th, 2012 at 5:10 am
I’m sure that the talk about Cedric Benson will start to heat up. I’ll stand fast that our RB crew is as good as it needs to be. Just need to let is flourish on its own. We really don’t need another RB in camp even for vet minimum. Better to spend the money on a vet TE, where we are painfully thin at the position.
If we do bring in a running back, I’d much rather have Ryan Grant than Cedric Benson. At least he is a better fit in the ZBS. Benson is a bum.
July 16th, 2012 at 5:50 am
Kind of amazing how many undrafted guys are starting and producing in the league.
Can’t wait to see the Reggime’s late round draft picks and UDFAs in the preseason. Already hearing about Streeter.
July 16th, 2012 at 5:53 am
Yep, The WR crew looks deep. Streater just adds another guy with good hands and instincts to the mix. It’s a young crew, but CP3 will be licking his chops at the options he will have to choose from.
July 16th, 2012 at 5:55 am
I’ll put $ on our current over Shianco.
Probably not better than Meyers at his point in his career. If he was anywhere near the player he was with Farvra, he wouldn’t be unemployed right now.
July 16th, 2012 at 5:57 am
Our TEs were never going to have the stats last year that say a Zack Miller put up with Carson Palmer at QB. That guy doesn’t target the TE much. MIGHT be his 4th read.
July 16th, 2012 at 6:08 am
A’s – Giants World Series??
Come on Brangelina, pull your head out of your azz and make a bold move!!!
July 16th, 2012 at 6:10 am
New Mexico, I’m thinking Angels vs. Dodgers World Series…
July 16th, 2012 at 6:12 am
Good Morning Nation!
July 16th, 2012 at 6:16 am
Our TEs were never going to have the stats last year that say a Zack Miller put up with Carson Palmer at QB. That guy doesn’t target the TE much. MIGHT be his 4th read.
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In my opinion, that doesn’t matter. You have to have a weapon at every skill position to FORCE the defense to GAMEPLAN for every player. This SPREADS OUT the defense and OPENS UP the offense.
Also, our 3 head sack of TE’s don’t collectively block or catch as well as Schiancoe.
July 16th, 2012 at 6:16 am
You are NOT going to the WS, lol.
We just gave you 1st with 8 damn errors in 2 games.
Dodgers will win the West going away!
July 16th, 2012 at 6:16 am
Shianco can block and catch, probably better then any of our guys.
Has the experience in some playoff games, and probably would be very cheap and good VALUE.
2 years, 3.9 million……something along those lines, I am fully on board.
July 16th, 2012 at 6:17 am
Good Morning Hawaiian..how you doing bro?
July 16th, 2012 at 6:17 am
Quote for Today…
“Sometimes the questions are complicated and the answers are simple.”
― Dr. Seuss
July 16th, 2012 at 6:19 am
LOL at the Bums.
San Diego might have the worst lineup in baseball, and they almost swept you at home.
The Melk Man is going to win the batting title, All-Star game MVP, a Gold Glove, NL MVP and maybe a World Series MVP.
Greatest year ever!!!
July 16th, 2012 at 6:19 am
2 years, 3.9 million……something along those lines, I am fully on board.
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co-sign!
July 16th, 2012 at 6:20 am
r8eray Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 6:17 am
Good Morning Hawaiian..how you doing bro?
What’s up Ray? Oh, you know….Monday morning! But I woke up this morning, so i get another chance
What about you?
July 16th, 2012 at 6:21 am
New Mexico, I’m thinking Angels vs. Dodgers World Series…
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LOL……not an LA biased observation is that?
I got the Yankee’s coming out of the AL.
July 16th, 2012 at 6:22 am
I swear JFB…You talk crap about your division, but what happened to LA never seeing first place again? Guess what? They did…so, with still half the season left…I will be quiet at least until end of August! Sorry, bro…that is why I FN HATE SF teams!!! That whole city could dissappear and I would not feel any remorse at all!
July 16th, 2012 at 6:23 am
You’re probably right about the Yanks! But you never know!
July 16th, 2012 at 6:27 am
You never took the lead in the most-important loss category.
Only tied.
My prediction is still alive, lol!!!
July 16th, 2012 at 6:30 am
The Dodgers played 6 weeks of great ball and were 30-13 at one point I believe.
Since then they are like 18-29 or something, kicking around the ball, bullpen blowing games, going a week or so without scoring more than 2-3 runs a game.
They are hanging on by a thread, and that thread is about to break my friends.
July 16th, 2012 at 6:31 am
As a Tampa Rays fan, I think they are done. Time to sell off Shields while he still has value. Longoria is out another 4 to 6 weeks and the bats are all dead.
RIP Tampa Rays 2012. Maybe next year.
July 16th, 2012 at 6:36 am
Never count out the Rays, as far as sneaking into the playoffs.
Maybe the best coached team in baseball.
But seriously, what is up with Rodney’s hat turned so far to the side? Is he just playing gangsta on the mound or is there something to it.
July 16th, 2012 at 6:39 am
Hanging on by a thread????
Cabrera is NOT going to beat out Kemp, bruh.
Too many green chile burritos.
July 16th, 2012 at 6:43 am
Joe Madden is hands down the best manager in baseball no doubt. He plays with lineups the way Tony LaRussa used to do, and pulls games out by putting in some dude who is hitting .188 but Madden knows he bats well against some obscure releiver. Then the .188 guys hits a walk off homer. Unbelievable!
Fernando Rodney can be as gangsta as he wants to be. He’s probably the team MVP so far and reason the Rays are still in it. Also, thank God for the 2nd wildcard or else all hope this season would be gone for the Rays.
July 16th, 2012 at 6:47 am
Anyways…less than a month to go!
July 16th, 2012 at 6:51 am
Two weeks to go!!!
Soon enough, we will start getting practice tweets and football has officially begun.
July 16th, 2012 at 6:53 am
Football has the longest off season I swear…at least it feels that way!
July 16th, 2012 at 6:56 am
LOL Hwnrdr.
My wife would disagree with you. She keeps asking how long till it’s over!
July 16th, 2012 at 6:57 am
Now that we have some cap space, why aren’t we extending a contract offer to free agent TE Visanthe Shianco? According the PFF, he was one of the top blocking TE’s and he’s a decent ball catcher too. Remember how Brett Favre made him a household name for a season or two. He is certainly better than any of our TE’s we are carrying now.
You have to have a weapon at every skill position to FORCE the defense to GAMEPLAN for every player. This SPREADS OUT the defense and OPENS UP the offense.
Also, our 3 head sack of TE’s don’t collectively block or catch as well as Schiancoe
Shianco can block and catch, probably better then any of our guys.
Has the experience in some playoff games, and probably would be very cheap and good VALUE.
2 years, 3.9 million……something along those lines, I am fully on board.
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@ G123 & JFB
McKenzie, Allen & Knapp don’t act or sound overly concerned about the TE position for some reason. Cut Kevin Boss. replaced him with some undrafted kid out of Boise State. signed a 29 year old TE (Humphrey?) with like 3 starts who has been a reserve everywhere he’s been. All that has been said is, the coaching staff wants to see these guys get better every day. Also said at the conclusion of OTA’s that this bunch of unprovens are making strides. Nobody seems to be banging down the door to sign guys like Shaincoe, Shockey or Scaife. Perhaps we should wait and see what our guys have to offer in training camp & preseason before we press the PANIC button ??
July 16th, 2012 at 6:59 am
Perhaps we should wait and see what our guys have to offer in training camp & preseason before we press the PANIC button ??
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co-signed! We are talking about the backup backup RB position right? No Ced Benson? Full agreement there!
July 16th, 2012 at 7:04 am
guest123 Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 6:56 am
LOL Hwnrdr.
My wife would disagree with you. She keeps asking how long till it’s over!
LOL, my wife too! Everytime around this time of year, she always asks me…you’re not going to any games this year, right?
July 16th, 2012 at 7:07 am
I’ll put $ on our current over Shianco.
Probably not better than Meyers at his point in his career. If he was anywhere near the player he was with Farvra, he wouldn’t be unemployed right now.
Our TEs were never going to have the stats last year that say a Zack Miller put up with Carson Palmer at QB. That guy doesn’t target the TE much. MIGHT be his 4th read.
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@Jhill
I dont know if our players are more talented than Shaincoe. I have seriously doubts about that statement.
However, I am in complete agreement that we wont see a TE put up “Miller numbers” and that Favre made everyone around him better.
2012 Raiders TE is clearly not a priority, or so it seems. when you axe Bossman and replace him with a pair of nobodies, you’re basically stating “a monkey can do your job” …
July 16th, 2012 at 7:10 am
Even with Branch’s contract, that only frees up room for one more minor free agent deal.
So the question becomes:
Sign a FA TE to compete for TE1 duty or
Sign a FA RB to competer for RB3 duty
One is a position of glaring weakness with upstarts and neverweres, and the other is chock full of depth.
July 16th, 2012 at 7:11 am
Just another stat supporting the weakness of our Dline.
To have your leading tackler over the past three years be a DB is a huge problem.
That means too many Olinemen are getting to the second level and blocking our linebackers.
You can blame our backers but I blame Seymour, Kelly, Houston and whoever took over for Shaugnessy.
Tollefson and Shaugnessy will help this year but the weakest unit on the Raiders today is our dline.
July 16th, 2012 at 7:13 am
We are talking about the backup backup RB position right? No Ced Benson?
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@G123
False. Wrong.
we’re talking about Terrell Owens being added to the WR corps !!
July 16th, 2012 at 7:15 am
2012 Raiders TE is clearly not a priority, or so it seems. when you axe Bossman and replace him with a pair of nobodies, you’re basically stating “a monkey can do your job” …
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If Reggie is throwing the white towel on fortifying the TE position, or crossing his fingers and hoping, I think it’s a huge flaw that will bite us in the butt later.
You can’t throw out a liability at any position and expect the opposing DC’s not to take advantage of it. The key is to create matchup nightmares at each skill position and force the defense to “pick their poison”. The guys we have at TE don’t put fear into anybody. They are a weakness the defenses will expose.
July 16th, 2012 at 7:17 am
we’re talking about Terrell Owens being added to the WR corps !!
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oh.. ok,
I am in agreement with you on that as well. No to TO!
July 16th, 2012 at 7:21 am
Are the magic really about to hire Jacque Vaughn to be head coach????
July 16th, 2012 at 7:21 am
Letting go of Kevin Boss was no huge loss either. He’s a concussion away from hanging them up and his blocking was considered among the worst of the TE’s listed on that PFF TE Efficiency report.
July 16th, 2012 at 7:23 am
Woohoo!! Just got NFL package and eighteen dollars a month off my 70 dollar package.
July 16th, 2012 at 7:26 am
I think I got it pretty good with wifey as far as football goes. Yesterday she called me from work getting the preseason MN game dates, the date of opening night, making sure to have the day and day after off from her schedule.
She is pretty good talent evaluator as well, it’s always interesting watching games with her, as she has no media bias or preconcieved notions on anybody.
Has been money on QB’s in our time. Always deeply hated Jamarcus, never really understood why I liked Bruce so much, always thought I was a tad harsh on Soup, and now thinks Carson is awesome.
She also had no idea who Dennarius Moore was until the first preseason game, and immediately claimed he was her favorite player.
Watch out McShay!!!
July 16th, 2012 at 7:26 am
You can’t throw out a liability at any position and expect the opposing DC’s not to take advantage of it. The key is to create matchup nightmares at each skill position and force the defense to “pick their poison”. The guys we have at TE don’t put fear into anybody. They are a weakness the defenses will expose.
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@G123
Well, Branch isn’t going to put fear into any opposing QB’s either. OC’s aren’t forced to gameplan around him. Reggie is a rookie GM without any draft picks or cash to spend, man. He inherited a mess from our late beloved owner Al Davis. You can’t expect to field a guy with 10+ starts at every position. There are going to be lots of players on the roster deemed “unproven”, even after Week 1 of the regular season. We’re going to continue to hear the dreaded P word – potential.
July 16th, 2012 at 7:27 am
Just don’t get the concern about the TE position.
Meyers may not be Gates, but he was solid. And he’s our 3rd option.
Gordon is a beastly blocker.
Looking for a pass catching guy for shotgun and 3rd down situations? Ausberry is your guy.
Gates, NO’s TE, Gonzales, etc …. Can’t block for shhh…
What are you guys looking for, Gronkowski?
July 16th, 2012 at 7:29 am
Letting go of Kevin Boss was no huge loss either. He’s a concussion away from hanging them up and his blocking was considered among the worst of the TE’s listed on that PFF TE Efficiency report.
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@G123
see comment #69
PFF also ranked Branch the 20th best safety
July 16th, 2012 at 7:30 am
If we don’t sign anyone, I wouldn’t be suprised if that kid from Boise State catches as many passes as Gordon and Ausberry combined.
Meyers will see the lions share of snaps at TE, with Reece, Gordon, Ausberry and Eflaw all competing for the scraps.
July 16th, 2012 at 7:31 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 7:29 am
Letting go of Kevin Boss was no huge loss either. He’s a concussion away from hanging them up and his blocking was considered among the worst of the TE’s listed on that PFF TE Efficiency report.
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@G123
see comment #69
PFF also ranked Branch the 20th best safety
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Agreed man, any site with Branch ranked 20th have to be flat out dumb, or maybe Dungver fans.
July 16th, 2012 at 7:31 am
Well, Branch isn’t going to put fear into any opposing QB’s either. OC’s aren’t forced to gameplan around him
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I think you have to take into account his new job description. I think his role will be more defined. More of a true SS job description. The HC is a former DB, so I think he will pay a lot of attention to what Huff and Branch are doing all week.
I expect both safeties to have pretty good seasons.
July 16th, 2012 at 7:32 am
Our TE’s blocking has been a major issue for pass-protection going on about 4 years running now.
Have to clean that up.
Boss or Miller or someone else would get worked over for a sack, and people would find ways to blame Satele or Barnes, lol.
July 16th, 2012 at 7:33 am
Well, Branch isn’t going to put fear into any opposing QB’s either. OC’s aren’t forced to gameplan around him. Reggie is a rookie GM without any draft picks or cash to spend, man. He inherited a mess from our late beloved owner Al Davis. You can’t expect to field a guy with 10+ starts at every position. There are going to be lots of players on the roster deemed “unproven”, even after Week 1 of the regular season. We’re going to continue to hear the dreaded P word – potential.
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The 2012 Raiders are all about the P word. Welcome to reality. As far as Branch not putting fear into opposing QB’s, if he’s doing his job and the LB’s and D-line do their jobs, he really shouldn’t be. He’s a complementary player and a major cog in a defense that operates AS A UNIT. No room for individual stars on Allen’s defense. This will be a UNIT where players are ACCOUNTABLE to each other. I know you hate the word POTENTIAL, but it is what it is. There is no getting around that now.
July 16th, 2012 at 7:33 am
I think Meyers is more than capable.
July 16th, 2012 at 7:33 am
Well gents, looks as though I gave the C’mon Man off-season award to DJ Williams a bit too soon. After seeing Dumervil get arrested, I’ll allow them to share the honor since they bothe play for Dungver. Their fans have to be praying every night that Von Miller doesn’t pull some dumb schit.lol
July 16th, 2012 at 7:33 am
Ah, the am crew.. Where the conversations arent so stupid..
July 16th, 2012 at 7:34 am
Boss or Miller or someone else would get worked over for a sack, and people would find ways to blame Satele or Barnes, lol.
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Truth 100
July 16th, 2012 at 7:34 am
The HC is a former DB, so I think he will pay a lot of attention to what Huff and Branch are doing all week.
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Good point.
If Allen is going to really be heavily involved at a certian position at times, you got to think it will be our secondary.
July 16th, 2012 at 7:34 am
Both*
July 16th, 2012 at 7:34 am
Good deal for reg. AL would have paid 5yrs for 55mill..
July 16th, 2012 at 7:35 am
Dumervil was pissed about a parking spot in Miami. Think that dude may be bipolar. It’s good to see Dungver implode right before training camp.
July 16th, 2012 at 7:37 am
With DA being a DB specialist, he must have confidence in Spencer to at least make the team. Should be interesting to see the final depth chart, especially the TE, DB and LB spots.
July 16th, 2012 at 7:38 am
Dumervills on the roids, trying to get healthy..
July 16th, 2012 at 7:38 am
guest123 Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 7:35 am
Dumervil was pissed about a parking spot in Miami. Think that dude may be bipolar. It’s good to see Dungver implode right before training camp.
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Well with Williams out for 6 games and a possible suspension for Dumervil coming, that would be a huge blow to their team. Go Raiders!
July 16th, 2012 at 7:39 am
GOOOOOO LAKERS!
July 16th, 2012 at 7:39 am
The secondary will be bartell spencer huff & branch.. Pretty simple..
July 16th, 2012 at 7:40 am
Here’s some good material on Branch……
http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/07/11/analysis-notebook-the-best-play-nobody-noticed-in-2011/
July 16th, 2012 at 7:40 am
Marks hair Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 7:38 am
Dumervills on the roids, trying to get healthy..
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I’d venture to say that he smokes reefer, like many NFL players do, but is too dumb to cleanse his system right. Looks as though he was using synthetic urine, which should piss off Goodell even more for covering it up.
July 16th, 2012 at 7:41 am
DVD will start week 1.
Print that!
HC, former DB, will have that kid playing at an elite level.
July 16th, 2012 at 7:41 am
Marks hair Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 7:39 am
The secondary will be bartell spencer huff & branch.. Pretty simple..
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Should pan out that way, except maybe Chekwa beats out Spencer but idk..
July 16th, 2012 at 7:42 am
I’m not ready to pencil in Spencer. I don’t even think he’s good enough to make the team.
July 16th, 2012 at 7:42 am
J Hill Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 7:41 am
DVD will start week 1.
Print that!
HC, former DB, will have that kid playing at an elite level.
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Bold prediction, if you’re right I’ll give you props on opening day bro.
July 16th, 2012 at 7:43 am
Not counting on DVD as a starter either.
July 16th, 2012 at 7:44 am
guest123 Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 7:42 am
I’m not ready to pencil in Spencer. I don’t even think he’s good enough to make the team.
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Me neither man, I feel the same way. Almost every Buckeyes fan I’ve talked to thinks Chekwa will emerge this year.
July 16th, 2012 at 7:45 am
Spencer was tarvers best db in sf. He probably has some trust there.. I think spencer starts unless he’s still hurt or something..
July 16th, 2012 at 7:47 am
Marks hair Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 7:45 am
Spencer was tarvers best db in sf. He probably has some trust there.. I think spencer starts unless he’s still hurt or something..
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Yeah Tarver does know him and he may fit the scheme he runs, but it’s nice to know he will be pushed by these young kids.
July 16th, 2012 at 7:48 am
Spencer is 30 and lost his job in SF after getting brutalized. His time is about up. He’s washed up and getting one last chance to prove himself.
Bartell is the exact same age to the same birthday, but he’s a proven corner who never had his ability questioned when playing. Only his neck was an issue. If his health holds up, he’s going to be a very solid corner for us.
One is not like the other regardless of common birthdays.
July 16th, 2012 at 7:51 am
264. Sounds like a raider
July 16th, 2012 at 7:54 am
Lets hope DA and Bartell help Spencer out a bit and get him playing at a high level. I do agree that Bartell should be a beast, not worried about a small fracture from a year ago at all.
July 16th, 2012 at 7:55 am
As far as Branch not putting fear into opposing QB’s, if he’s doing his job and the LB’s and D-line do their jobs, he really shouldn’t be. He’s a complementary player and a major cog in a defense that operates AS A UNIT. No room for individual stars on Allen’s defense. This will be a UNIT where players are ACCOUNTABLE to each other
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@G123
I think thats horse crap. If Branch doesn’t get his job done, he gets to blame the other 10 guys??
being accountable to your teammates is what leads toward animosity and finger pointing.
I want to see players accountable to the GM, HC, OC/DC and position coach. just worry about doing your own job. I’m all about teamwork, working together and helping eachother. Remember that old Cable saying he ripped from the Bible? “iron sharpens iron”
If my co-workers are looking over my shoulder, i’m going to tell them to back the heck off. they are responsible for telling you what to do or how to go about your business.
Like Richard Seymour, if he’s telling guys like Kelly & Bryant to quit taking plays off of causing stupid penalties. hypocrit alert!
July 16th, 2012 at 7:56 am
Im just glad Ii wont be watching the same old boring predictible D this yr..
July 16th, 2012 at 8:00 am
267. I have never hear of a chamionship team whos players werent accountable to each other.. Ever.. Its not a normal job.. Its about sacrafice. Like the army.
July 16th, 2012 at 8:04 am
@RRS,
Nothing personal, but my guess is that what you do as an individual employee isn’t a chokepoint on the work of others. You may think it is, but in reality anybody can reasonably replace you and the world doesn’t stop from spinning. It’s not as interactive or as interconnected as a 11 men playing defense holding each yard of terrain facing the 11 men on offense. When there is a good gameplan, with smart coordination, all 11 men are in good position to negate the options of the offense. I agree that it’s all about teamwork, and iron sharpening iron means to me ACCOUNTABILITY. The fear of letting your teammate down. Not teammates ripping each other. Just knowing that your weakness was the achilles heel that other teams exploited and led to FAILURE. That’s enough to get teammates COMMITTED TO WINNING feeling terrible about losing thier personal battles play to play.
July 16th, 2012 at 8:05 am
269.
I agree 100%
July 16th, 2012 at 8:07 am
Im worried about that whole bunch though. Its not the best d ive ever seen on paper..
July 16th, 2012 at 8:14 am
We should all be worried about the D. It was gawd awful last year. And it’s fair to say it’s in a state of flux. We don’t know what treat we will pull out of that crackerjack box yet. We hope it’s something good.
July 16th, 2012 at 8:17 am
Anyone know if we still have 89 guys on the roster or are we at 90?
July 16th, 2012 at 8:17 am
As long as I dont have to watch us give up g yrs a carry all day ill be ok
July 16th, 2012 at 8:19 am
G yards a carry.. Nice. I meant 6..
July 16th, 2012 at 8:21 am
DVD starting opening night does nothing but give me a feeling of uneasiness.
July 16th, 2012 at 8:25 am
We got too many guys who haven’t sacrificed enough for winning teams.
We got a lot of guys who have won nothing but been paid handsomely, and a lot of youngsters.
Our one “saavy” vet, Seymour, has been the least accountable guy on defense. Stupid penalties, stupid ejections, then he gets a week off practice and doesn’t have to show up for voluntary OTA’s, and cashes the biggest paycheck on the team.
Fiddlesticks!!!
July 16th, 2012 at 8:27 am
Branch.
July 16th, 2012 at 8:28 am
Good D starts with your lineplay.
You can scheme and blitz and go 3-4 and mix man and cover two. You can change coordinators six times in ten years. None of that matters when your DB’s are tackling ball carriers six yards or more down field.
Our Dline gets dominated by good offensive fronts. No double etams are required.
Seymour gets frustrated and gets thrown out of the game in the second quarter. We can’t pressure with four and we blitz so much that we almost single handedly turn Tomlinson into a Hall of Famer. (Yes, we blitz plenty-our guys just get picked up by good Olines.)
Our Dline pads the stats against weak or injured Olines.
We have had plenty of leads late in games that our D can not hold.
The Dline is what has to get better.
July 16th, 2012 at 8:28 am
Yep, Seymour better not get any dumb penalties this year and earn that 15 mil.
July 16th, 2012 at 8:28 am
Sounds like the Warriors are making a run a Dwight Howard.
July 16th, 2012 at 8:29 am
282.Dakota Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 8:28 am
Sounds like the Warriors are making a run a Dwight Howard.
http://www.sfgate.com/sports/article/Warriors-actively-after-Dwight-Howard-report-says-2444715.php
July 16th, 2012 at 8:30 am
Bartell hasn’t won anything. Same with Spencer mostly.
Curry, nada. Same with Huff and Branch, and they keep getting massive pay raises at every turn. TK, little sacrifice other then chili-dogs, but massive pay raise.
Basically we got Wheeler and Seymour who have won in this league defensively, and everything pretending to be something.
Can’t make up that post-Turkey day experience of winning late in the season, in tough road games, bright lights, in the cold when your hurt, etc.
July 16th, 2012 at 8:31 am
Who needs Dwight Howard when you have Andrew Bogut!!!!
July 16th, 2012 at 8:32 am
Fiddlesticks is right!
July 16th, 2012 at 8:33 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 8:30 am
Bartell hasn’t won anything. Same with Spencer mostly.
Curry, nada. Same with Huff and Branch, and they keep getting massive pay raises at every turn. TK, little sacrifice other then chili-dogs, but massive pay raise.
Basically we got Wheeler and Seymour who have won in this league defensively, and everything pretending to be something.
Can’t make up that post-Turkey day experience of winning late in the season, in tough road games, bright lights, in the cold when your hurt, etc.
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Agreed man, if DA can get these guys better prepared for east coast games, that will be huge also. Fix the penalties and don’t stink up the 2nd half during road games out east..seem like discipline issues imo.
July 16th, 2012 at 8:33 am
I feel for TK though, I love me some chili-dogs.
Get a good Hebrew national with some high-quality potato buns, some homemade chili, topped with mozzarella AND some cheddar, colbyjack, mexican mix type cheese and Louisana hot sauce.
Boo-ya!!!!!
July 16th, 2012 at 8:34 am
Bogut
July 16th, 2012 at 8:34 am
And none of this chili out of the can with either no meat or no beans business.
I want some hearty chunks of ground beef and some massive kidney beans in that beyotch!!!!
July 16th, 2012 at 8:36 am
That article is from January 6th.
W’s have been out of the Howard stakes for awhile now..
July 16th, 2012 at 8:36 am
Anyone have the exact breakdown of Branch’s contract yet?
$17 million guaranteed doesn’t sound too bad.
Still not sold on Branch being some great safety.
July 16th, 2012 at 8:36 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 8:33 am
I feel for TK though, I love me some chili-dogs.
Get a good Hebrew national with some high-quality potato buns, some homemade chili, topped with mozzarella AND some cheddar, colbyjack, mexican mix type cheese and Louisana hot sauce.
Boo-ya!!!!!
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Dang that sounds like some good eatin! I’d guess that you prefer fewer, but quality dawgs and TK prefers a schit load of any old type of dawgs..quantity all day!lol
July 16th, 2012 at 8:37 am
Whats up dav, a trade with the w’s sound good to you?
July 16th, 2012 at 8:37 am
291.DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 8:36 am
That article is from January 6th.
W’s have been out of the Howard stakes for awhile now..
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I am just trying to mess with those poor Warrior’s fans out there….both of them!
July 16th, 2012 at 8:37 am
As far as the Dwightmare goes, something from January 6th has about the same value as a story from July 6th in my eyes.
Finnicky-ego-bloated azzhole as he is.
July 16th, 2012 at 8:38 am
Dakota Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 8:36 am
Anyone have the exact breakdown of Branch’s contract yet?
$17 million guaranteed doesn’t sound too bad.
Still not sold on Branch being some great safety.
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Believe it is 4yr/26.5 million..17 guaranteed
July 16th, 2012 at 8:39 am
Oh beeew.. Thought somthing happend when I left for work..
July 16th, 2012 at 8:39 am
Dang that sounds like some good eatin!
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Well the wifey and I crock-potted (new verb) some chili this weekend, and I went to the grocery store yesterday and grabbed some Hebrew’s and said high-quality potato buns, lol.
That may be lunch in a few hours.
July 16th, 2012 at 8:41 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 8:39 am
Dang that sounds like some good eatin!
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Well the wifey and I crock-potted (new verb) some chili this weekend, and I went to the grocery store yesterday and grabbed some Hebrew’s and said high-quality potato buns, lol.
That may be lunch in a few hours.
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Hell yeah..all the food talk got me hungry, I’m out for lunch gonna grab a couple gyros.
July 16th, 2012 at 8:42 am
If I were the Magic, I would pull a Bill Rawls from the Wire and ask him where doesn’t he want to go, and then ship him there.
Like McNulty and the boat, lol.
July 16th, 2012 at 8:42 am
Just read an article about Nash and his affect on Gasol. Personally, I can’t wait to watch the pick and roll between those two…imagine the help D coming off of Bynum trying to stop Nash and then BOOM, lob to Bynum from Nash….it should work to perfection.
Of course, I am not looking forward to Nash and Gasol’s/Bynum’s defense in pick and roll situations.
Oh well.
July 16th, 2012 at 8:43 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 8:42 am
If I were the Magic, I would pull a Bill Rawls from the Wire and ask him where doesn’t he want to go, and then ship him there.
Like McNulty and the boat, lol.
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That would feel the best emotionally lol..
But I want the best package still lol
July 16th, 2012 at 8:43 am
They need to trade him already. Its hard to get on with free agency with howard mucking things up
July 16th, 2012 at 8:47 am
If Orlando turned down the rumored package offered by Houston last week, then they are just idiotic….but I think Houston may be having second thoughts about paying out that much for a potential rental of Dwight Howard, just to watch him sign with Dallas next Summer.
It would be a complete nightmare.
July 16th, 2012 at 8:50 am
He doest want to play there.. I heard lakers cavs magic trade was discussed
July 16th, 2012 at 8:53 am
Crockpotted some chili ay…
NICE! That is how chili is supposed to be made!
July 16th, 2012 at 8:55 am
Signing with houston is about the same as signing with orlando.. A weak team. Plus you have to live in houston..
July 16th, 2012 at 8:55 am
Right now Orlando is acting like that v1rgin chick in high school who will let you take her out to dinner, then a movie, then agree to go hang at the Lake where kids go to get it on, and then at the last minute changes her mind and sends you home with nothing but a bad case of blue balz and an empty wallet.
Orlando may have overplayed their hand.
July 16th, 2012 at 8:58 am
306.Marks hair Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 8:50 am
He doest want to play there.. I heard lakers cavs magic trade was discussed
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Read that it was all a rumor spread by Orlando to try and make Houston add more to the pot. What the fk does Orlando want more of? They want the rights to Galveston too? Maybe Adrian Foster and the rights to Nolan Ryan as well?
July 16th, 2012 at 8:59 am
Anyone have the exact breakdown of Branch’s contract yet?
$17 million guaranteed doesn’t sound too bad.
Still not sold on Branch being some great safety.
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@Dakota
Branch will be paid $16.1 million over the first two years of the deal !!
if he’s not a “great safety” in 2012 & 2013 , thats a ton of cash down the crapper.
July 16th, 2012 at 9:01 am
308.Marks hair Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 8:55 am
Signing with houston is about the same as signing with orlando.. A weak team. Plus you have to live in houston..
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Dwight needs a reality check. He needs to add more teams to his list. Right now he is acting like a spoiled kid who, despite all evidence to the contrary, is still hanging on to some hopeless dream….sorry kid, Brooklyn moved on, time to get the fk over it.
July 16th, 2012 at 9:02 am
Dakota Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 9:01 am
308.Marks hair Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 8:55 am
Signing with houston is about the same as signing with orlando.. A weak team. Plus you have to live in houston..
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Dwight needs a reality check. He needs to add more teams to his list. Right now he is acting like a spoiled kid who, despite all evidence to the contrary, is still hanging on to some hopeless dream….sorry kid, Brooklyn moved on, time to get the fk over it.
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His list means nothing at this point.
Hennigan will trade him wherever he gets the best deal.
a deal with Houston cant even begin to take place until the Lin/Asik deal’s figure themselves out.
July 16th, 2012 at 9:03 am
Dwight has ALWAYS been a spoilt kid. It isn’t just right now. That’s just reality.
July 16th, 2012 at 9:03 am
311.RaiderRockstar Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 8:59 am
Anyone have the exact breakdown of Branch’s contract yet?
$17 million guaranteed doesn’t sound too bad.
Still not sold on Branch being some great safety.
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@Dakota
Branch will be paid $16.1 million over the first two years of the deal !!
if he’s not a “great safety” in 2012 & 2013 , thats a ton of cash down the crapper.
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lol, well, that is questionable move #2 by Reggie (Knapp was #1)….lets hope that One Year Wonder Boy can keep it up after scoring his big pay day. I have my doubts, but they must see something on film….
July 16th, 2012 at 9:06 am
313.DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 9:02 am
His list means nothing at this point.
Hennigan will trade him wherever he gets the best deal.
a deal with Houston cant even begin to take place until the Lin/Asik deal’s figure themselves out.
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You can’t really believe that can you? You don’t think that a team that is making an offer to Orlando doesn’t factor in the potential that he will refuse to sign with them at season’s end? Really? Come on now. Of course it affects what Orlando can get for him.
July 16th, 2012 at 9:07 am
I agree that it’s all about teamwork, and iron sharpening iron means to me ACCOUNTABILITY. The fear of letting your teammate down
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@G123
what player DOES want to let their teammates down or look like a bum on the field when they review film?
thank you capt obvious!
my point was, now that have to be accountable to somebody besides themselves and the owner. perhaps you missed that from my last comment?
“players accountable to the GM, HC, OC/DC and position coach”
no more scholarships!!
July 16th, 2012 at 9:08 am
Dakota Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 9:06 am
313.DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 9:02 am
His list means nothing at this point.
Hennigan will trade him wherever he gets the best deal.
a deal with Houston cant even begin to take place until the Lin/Asik deal’s figure themselves out.
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You can’t really believe that can you? You don’t think that a team that is making an offer to Orlando doesn’t factor in the potential that he will refuse to sign with them at season’s end? Really? Come on now. Of course it affects what Orlando can get for him.
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There are teams willing to trade regardless.
And the Nets have shown teams the blueprint.
No one thought DWill would stay with the Nets when they traded for him. Now look.
No player is going to turn down their bird rights.
Come on..
July 16th, 2012 at 9:11 am
my point was, now that have to be accountable to somebody besides themselves and the owner. perhaps you missed that from my last comment?
“players accountable to the GM, HC, OC/DC and position coach”
no more scholarships!!
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I don’t disagree with that part, only it seemed that the tone of your previous comment that the cap’t obvious statement didn’t matter. That players weren’t accountable to each other. That’s all I was trying to say. That it’s an important part of team accountability as well.
July 16th, 2012 at 9:11 am
FLORIDA:
Dumervil flashes a gun in a road rage incident = Agg Assault = Felony
ALABAMA:
Slowlando McLazy discharges a gun inches away from another human being’s head = Misdemeanor
Think Roger Goodell gives a schyte which is a felony and which is a misdemeanor? I doubt it.
July 16th, 2012 at 9:12 am
AGENDA pushing so early??
July 16th, 2012 at 9:13 am
Wow, the Bengals have 6 former 1st rounders at the CB position.
July 16th, 2012 at 9:14 am
How can you hate on Branch and his contract when you are a fan of Huff?! Didn’t Nnamdi give huff a piggy bank because he was stealing Al’s money.
July 16th, 2012 at 9:14 am
Dwight Howard is getting so much attention, it’s ridiculous.
he’s not winning the NBA Championship next year, even if he gets inked by the Nets or Lakers!
Miami Heat added Allen & Lewis, plus that rookie center (Hamilton?) from LSU and a future 1st rounder from Philly.
who’s next to jump on board the championship express??
I vote for Iverson!
July 16th, 2012 at 9:15 am
318.DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 9:08 am
Dakota Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 9:06 am
313.DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 9:02 am
His list means nothing at this point.
Hennigan will trade him wherever he gets the best deal.
a deal with Houston cant even begin to take place until the Lin/Asik deal’s figure themselves out.
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You can’t really believe that can you? You don’t think that a team that is making an offer to Orlando doesn’t factor in the potential that he will refuse to sign with them at season’s end? Really? Come on now. Of course it affects what Orlando can get for him.
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There are teams willing to trade regardless.
And the Nets have shown teams the blueprint.
No one thought DWill would stay with the Nets when they traded for him. Now look.
No player is going to turn down their bird rights.
Come on..
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If Bird Rights are going to make Dwight stay wherever he is traded, then why is Orlando even considering trading him? Just keep him and dare him to walk away from the extra money.
Obviously there is some risk that Dwight will leave anyhow, and that same risk transfers to his new team if he is unwilling to say that he will re-sign with them at season’s end.
July 16th, 2012 at 9:17 am
Wow, the Bengals have 6 former 1st rounders at the CB position.
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I bet Hue Jackson can teach them a thing or two.
July 16th, 2012 at 9:17 am
Dakota Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 9:15 am
318.DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 9:08 am
Dakota Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 9:06 am
313.DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 9:02 am
His list means nothing at this point.
Hennigan will trade him wherever he gets the best deal.
a deal with Houston cant even begin to take place until the Lin/Asik deal’s figure themselves out.
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You can’t really believe that can you? You don’t think that a team that is making an offer to Orlando doesn’t factor in the potential that he will refuse to sign with them at season’s end? Really? Come on now. Of course it affects what Orlando can get for him.
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There are teams willing to trade regardless.
And the Nets have shown teams the blueprint.
No one thought DWill would stay with the Nets when they traded for him. Now look.
No player is going to turn down their bird rights.
Come on..
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If Bird Rights are going to make Dwight stay wherever he is traded, then why is Orlando even considering trading him? Just keep him and dare him to walk away from the extra money.
Obviously there is some risk that Dwight will leave anyhow, and that same risk transfers to his new team if he is unwilling to say that he will re-sign with them at season’s end.
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IDK if you have seen the news lately, but he doesnt want to be there lol..
And Hennigan wants to re-build the place so.. This is his chance.
Its about the Orlando Magic now, not Dwight.
July 16th, 2012 at 9:18 am
Didn’t Nnamdi give huff a piggy bank because he was stealing Al’s money.
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@Kentucky
and Trent Cole gave #21 a piggy bank for stealing Jeffrey Lurie’s money !!
July 16th, 2012 at 9:18 am
guest123 Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 9:17 am
Wow, the Bengals have 6 former 1st rounders at the CB position.
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I bet Hue Jackson can teach them a thing or two.
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He’s gonna have Gradkowski switch to Safety and wear #27 this season..
July 16th, 2012 at 9:20 am
players weren’t accountable to each other.
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@G123
they weren’t? how the heck would you know?
Link? Source?
color me impressed if you’ve ever been in the Raiders locker room or film room!
July 16th, 2012 at 9:21 am
327.DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 9:17 am
Dakota Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 9:15 am
318.DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 9:08 am
Dakota Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 9:06 am
313.DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 9:02 am
His list means nothing at this point.
Hennigan will trade him wherever he gets the best deal.
a deal with Houston cant even begin to take place until the Lin/Asik deal’s figure themselves out.
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You can’t really believe that can you? You don’t think that a team that is making an offer to Orlando doesn’t factor in the potential that he will refuse to sign with them at season’s end? Really? Come on now. Of course it affects what Orlando can get for him.
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There are teams willing to trade regardless.
And the Nets have shown teams the blueprint.
No one thought DWill would stay with the Nets when they traded for him. Now look.
No player is going to turn down their bird rights.
Come on..
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If Bird Rights are going to make Dwight stay wherever he is traded, then why is Orlando even considering trading him? Just keep him and dare him to walk away from the extra money.
Obviously there is some risk that Dwight will leave anyhow, and that same risk transfers to his new team if he is unwilling to say that he will re-sign with them at season’s end.
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IDK if you have seen the news lately, but he doesnt want to be there lol..
And Hennigan wants to re-build the place so.. This is his chance.
Its about the Orlando Magic now, not Dwight.
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Oh, I see, the Magic can let that talk dictate to them, but other teams should just ignore the fact that Dwight has made it clear there is only one team he would re-sign with if traded, and that he fully intends on exercising his rights as a free agent if not traded to that team. Gotchya. lol
July 16th, 2012 at 9:21 am
He’s gonna have Gradkowski switch to Safety and wear #27 this season
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and he’ll make more plays than #33 in Oakland
July 16th, 2012 at 9:22 am
Dakota Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 9:21 am
327.DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 9:17 am
Dakota Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 9:15 am
318.DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 9:08 am
Dakota Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 9:06 am
313.DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 9:02 am
His list means nothing at this point.
Hennigan will trade him wherever he gets the best deal.
a deal with Houston cant even begin to take place until the Lin/Asik deal’s figure themselves out.
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You can’t really believe that can you? You don’t think that a team that is making an offer to Orlando doesn’t factor in the potential that he will refuse to sign with them at season’s end? Really? Come on now. Of course it affects what Orlando can get for him.
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There are teams willing to trade regardless.
And the Nets have shown teams the blueprint.
No one thought DWill would stay with the Nets when they traded for him. Now look.
No player is going to turn down their bird rights.
Come on..
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If Bird Rights are going to make Dwight stay wherever he is traded, then why is Orlando even considering trading him? Just keep him and dare him to walk away from the extra money.
Obviously there is some risk that Dwight will leave anyhow, and that same risk transfers to his new team if he is unwilling to say that he will re-sign with them at season’s end.
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IDK if you have seen the news lately, but he doesnt want to be there lol..
And Hennigan wants to re-build the place so.. This is his chance.
Its about the Orlando Magic now, not Dwight.
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Oh, I see, the Magic can let that talk dictate to them, but other teams should just ignore the fact that Dwight has made it clear there is only one team he would re-sign with if traded, and that he fully intends on exercising his rights as a free agent if not traded to that team. Gotchya. lol
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He lost all his leverage.
The Nets are out.
See how that works…
July 16th, 2012 at 9:23 am
Dakota,
Also you dont realize that whoever trades for Dwight can trade him again at the deadline..
July 16th, 2012 at 9:24 am
Hennigan wants to re-build the place so.. This is his chance.
Its about the Orlando Magic now, not Dwight
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co-signed, DAV!
July 16th, 2012 at 9:25 am
Dakota Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 9:21 am
327.DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 9:17 am
Dakota Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 9:15 am
318.DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 9:08 am
Dakota Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 9:06 am
313.DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 9:02 am
His list means nothing at this point.
Hennigan will trade him wherever he gets the best deal.
a deal with Houston cant even begin to take place until the Lin/Asik deal’s figure themselves out.
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You can’t really believe that can you? You don’t think that a team that is making an offer to Orlando doesn’t factor in the potential that he will refuse to sign with them at season’s end? Really? Come on now. Of course it affects what Orlando can get for him.
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There are teams willing to trade regardless.
And the Nets have shown teams the blueprint.
No one thought DWill would stay with the Nets when they traded for him. Now look.
No player is going to turn down their bird rights.
Come on..
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If Bird Rights are going to make Dwight stay wherever he is traded, then why is Orlando even considering trading him? Just keep him and dare him to walk away from the extra money.
Obviously there is some risk that Dwight will leave anyhow, and that same risk transfers to his new team if he is unwilling to say that he will re-sign with them at season’s end.
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IDK if you have seen the news lately, but he doesnt want to be there lol..
And Hennigan wants to re-build the place so.. This is his chance.
Its about the Orlando Magic now, not Dwight.
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Oh, I see, the Magic can let that talk dictate to them, but other teams should just ignore the fact that Dwight has made it clear there is only one team he would re-sign with if traded, and that he fully intends on exercising his rights as a free agent if not traded to that team. Gotchya. lol
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He lost all his leverage.
The Nets are out.
See how that works…
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The Nets are out but the Mavs are still there with cap space going into next offseason and they were second on his list of two teams (originally 3 teams until Kobe fked it up)
How can you not see that any team trading for Dwight will have to take that into consideration?
July 16th, 2012 at 9:27 am
334.DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 9:23 am
Dakota,
Also you dont realize that whoever trades for Dwight can trade him again at the deadline..
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Yeah, I am sure that would work out well for whichever team gets him from the Magic lol. Hey we had Dwight for three months, now give us more than what we gave Orlando!
July 16th, 2012 at 9:27 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 9:18 am
Didn’t Nnamdi give huff a piggy bank because he was stealing Al’s money.
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@Kentucky
and Trent Cole gave #21 a piggy bank for stealing Jeffrey Lurie’s money !!
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
That would be funny.
Link/ source?
July 16th, 2012 at 9:28 am
Dakota Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 9:25 am
Dakota Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 9:21 am
327.DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 9:17 am
Dakota Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 9:15 am
318.DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 9:08 am
Dakota Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 9:06 am
313.DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 9:02 am
His list means nothing at this point.
Hennigan will trade him wherever he gets the best deal.
a deal with Houston cant even begin to take place until the Lin/Asik deal’s figure themselves out.
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You can’t really believe that can you? You don’t think that a team that is making an offer to Orlando doesn’t factor in the potential that he will refuse to sign with them at season’s end? Really? Come on now. Of course it affects what Orlando can get for him.
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There are teams willing to trade regardless.
And the Nets have shown teams the blueprint.
No one thought DWill would stay with the Nets when they traded for him. Now look.
No player is going to turn down their bird rights.
Come on..
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If Bird Rights are going to make Dwight stay wherever he is traded, then why is Orlando even considering trading him? Just keep him and dare him to walk away from the extra money.
Obviously there is some risk that Dwight will leave anyhow, and that same risk transfers to his new team if he is unwilling to say that he will re-sign with them at season’s end.
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IDK if you have seen the news lately, but he doesnt want to be there lol..
And Hennigan wants to re-build the place so.. This is his chance.
Its about the Orlando Magic now, not Dwight.
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Oh, I see, the Magic can let that talk dictate to them, but other teams should just ignore the fact that Dwight has made it clear there is only one team he would re-sign with if traded, and that he fully intends on exercising his rights as a free agent if not traded to that team. Gotchya. lol
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He lost all his leverage.
The Nets are out.
See how that works…
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The Nets are out but the Mavs are still there with cap space going into next offseason and they were second on his list of two teams (originally 3 teams until Kobe fked it up)
How can you not see that any team trading for Dwight will have to take that into consideration
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Yes, consideration.
Major factor? No.
That’s why you can trade him at the deadline if you think he will leave..
SEE
July 16th, 2012 at 9:29 am
Dakota Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 8:55 am
Right now Orlando is acting like that v1rgin chick in high school who will let you take her out to dinner, then a movie, then agree to go hang at the Lake where kids go to get it on, and then at the last minute changes her mind and sends you home with nothing but a bad case of blue balz and an empty wallet.
Orlando may have overplayed their hand
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LMFAO!!!! Sounds like my 1st GF. Found out she didn’t want to give it up until marriage. Since I didn’t live in Kentucky and was only 16 and she was 15, that was not going to happen and I was not going to wait.
July 16th, 2012 at 9:30 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 9:14 am
Dwight Howard is getting so much attention, it’s ridiculous.
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He’s certainly getting a lot of attention on this blog.
July 16th, 2012 at 9:30 am
Dakota Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 9:27 am
334.DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 9:23 am
Dakota,
Also you dont realize that whoever trades for Dwight can trade him again at the deadline..
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Yeah, I am sure that would work out well for whichever team gets him from the Magic lol. Hey we had Dwight for three months, now give us more than what we gave Orlando!
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Well if your going by NBA Live ‘12 mentality, yea.
But if you do it right, you can come out ahead.
Its not very hard to get.
July 16th, 2012 at 9:30 am
FLORIDA:
Dumervil flashes a gun in a road rage incident = Agg Assault = Felony
ALABAMA:
Slowlando McLazy discharges a gun inches away from another human being’s head = Misdemeanor
Think Roger Goodell gives a schyte which is a felony and which is a misdemeanor? I doubt it.
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Curious…would we be happy as Raider fans if Dummervil and Rolando were suspended or neither were suspended?
July 16th, 2012 at 9:32 am
@Kell
would you rather see Reggie sign Benson or Shaincoe to add to the offense?
or nobody until we see what we’ve got (or who gets injured) in training camp & preseason ??
July 16th, 2012 at 9:32 am
RRS,
No I wasn’t in the film room or knew an inside source. lol
But isn’t that we have been hearing about the “scholarships”. Is there a link for that term? No. It’s all mentioned in whispers, but we all knew it existed.
July 16th, 2012 at 9:32 am
If Kobe can patch it up with his wife, he can make up with anyone. Just buy Dwight a $3 mill diamond Earring.
July 16th, 2012 at 9:32 am
Yes, consideration.
Major factor? No.
That’s why you can trade him at the deadline if you think he will leave..
SEE
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You really think the car salesman’s pitch of trade-in value is going to make Houston feel better? Any team that trades for him now can’t then turn around in January and tell their fans they are trading Dwight Howard. No team wants to inherit the circus Orlando has had on its hands for the past year. It would be a PR disaster for that team.
July 16th, 2012 at 9:32 am
If your not the Thunder, Heat or Lakers then you are not serious contendors for the Title.
So there isnt a real “risk” involved in trading for Howard. You sell jerseys/tickets. And control his bird rights.
Its not like you were gonna win a title anyway.
This is not hard to get..
July 16th, 2012 at 9:35 am
DAV,
Please give me one example of a team that traded for a disgruntled player in the final year of his contract, and was then able to parlay said player into a better deal at the trade deadline of that same year.
And no, NBA Live deals don’t count.
I can’t think of any examples.
July 16th, 2012 at 9:37 am
@Kell
would you rather see Reggie sign Benson or Shaincoe to add to the offense?
or nobody until we see what we’ve got (or who gets injured) in training camp & preseason ??
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What happened to Shaincoe? Dude was a stud? Too many injuries? Or is he a Doug Jolley, Courtney Anderson type, flashes of potential?
July 16th, 2012 at 9:37 am
348.DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 9:32 am
If your not the Thunder, Heat or Lakers then you are not serious contendors for the Title.
So there isnt a real “risk” involved in trading for Howard. You sell jerseys/tickets. And control his bird rights.
Its not like you were gonna win a title anyway.
This is not hard to get..
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What isn’t hard to get is that a team trading away the package orlando seems to think it deserves for Howard would think twice about losing so many assets and crippling their franchise for years if Howard chooses not to re-sign with them.
July 16th, 2012 at 9:38 am
Branch didn’t get an “Al Davis” contract…..They freed up some cap space, AND it’s cheaper than if he were tagged twice. Hell, he could play better TOO in which case it could be a bargain. What’s the problem? Why always negative?
July 16th, 2012 at 9:39 am
Dakota Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 9:35 am
DAV,
Please give me one example of a team that traded for a disgruntled player in the final year of his contract, and was then able to parlay said player into a better deal at the trade deadline of that same year.
And no, NBA Live deals don’t count.
I can’t think of any examples.
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I never said they can parlay him into a better deal. I said they can trade him at the deadline.
And I’ll find that example right after you find me the example of a superstar being traded and walking out on his bird rights.
July 16th, 2012 at 9:41 am
Dakota Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 9:37 am
348.DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 9:32 am
If your not the Thunder, Heat or Lakers then you are not serious contendors for the Title.
So there isnt a real “risk” involved in trading for Howard. You sell jerseys/tickets. And control his bird rights.
Its not like you were gonna win a title anyway.
This is not hard to get..
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What isn’t hard to get is that a team trading away the package orlando seems to think it deserves for Howard would think twice about losing so many assets and crippling their franchise for years if Howard chooses not to re-sign with them.
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Your not winning a title anyways, if you have a shot to keep Dwight, you take it.
No brainer.
July 16th, 2012 at 9:41 am
theghostronin79 Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 9:38 am
Branch didn’t get an “Al Davis” contract…..They freed up some cap space, AND it’s cheaper than if he were tagged twice. Hell, he could play better TOO in which case it could be a bargain. What’s the problem? Why always negative?
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Agreed! Branch is giving us his “prime” years and still has an opportunity to make bank before he’s 30 yo. That’s a win-win deal imo. Nothing but positivity from Mr. Reggie! It’s gonna be good, you’ll see.
July 16th, 2012 at 9:44 am
Why always negative?
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79,
“I like Branch’s motor & effort. Like his toughness and tackling skill. Like his speed and special teams ability.” – RRS comment #81 (above)
Also, see comments 636-638 on this thread:
http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2012/07/12/raiders-pass-in-supplemental-draft/
July 16th, 2012 at 9:44 am
Favre made Rice and Shaincoe look like studs. That’s why it’s important to have a good QB in this league.
July 16th, 2012 at 9:44 am
I’m banging the TB33 drum for you haters.
TB33’s contract will end up being a bargain, wait and see.
quote me. Mark the date. Highlight and cut and paste for later. July 16, 2012.
July 16th, 2012 at 9:44 am
Gotta run….touche on #353 DAV
July 16th, 2012 at 9:45 am
Branch didn’t get an “Al Davis” contract…..They freed up some cap space, AND it’s cheaper than if he were tagged twice. Hell, he could play better TOO in which case it could be a bargain. What’s the problem? Why always negative?
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Agreed! Branch is giving us his “prime” years and still has an opportunity to make bank before he’s 30 yo. That’s a win-win deal imo. Nothing but positivity from Mr. Reggie! It’s gonna be good, you’ll see.
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Plus, I don’t get the vibe that #33 is a “Well I got my monies now, I ain’t gotta play.” kind of guy. If anything, I think he works harder now. I wouldn’t be surprised to see him with a little white “C” on his jersey next season.
July 16th, 2012 at 9:46 am
Dakota Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 9:44 am
Gotta run….touche on #353 DAV
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Good talkin with ya buddy..
July 16th, 2012 at 9:47 am
360. I agree. He’s got one more contract on his mind. This isn’t his final payday. The next team that signs him will have to deal with any letdown. But TB33 at 25 yo and entering his prime is a good thing to have locked down.
July 16th, 2012 at 9:48 am
Nothing but positivity from Mr. Reggie! It’s gonna be good, you’ll see.
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@G123
didn’t you just tell me “welcome to reality” , earlier?
well please come and join me!
Reggie is a rookie GM and just because he’s a better businessman than Al Davis, doesnt mean he’s gonna strike gold on every draft pick or contract offered. Even the good GM’s swing & miss. Raider fans are so pumped about the new regime that they fail to realize BigMac is just a man like the rest of us and very capable of error.
July 16th, 2012 at 9:49 am
DutchRaider77 Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 9:37 am
@Kell
would you rather see Reggie sign Benson or Shaincoe to add to the offense?
or nobody until we see what we’ve got (or who gets injured) in training camp & preseason ??
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What happened to Dude was a stud? Too many injuries? Or is he a Doug Jolley, Courtney Anderson type, flashes of potential?
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Shaincoe had his best years when Favre was QB otherwise not very speacial.
July 16th, 2012 at 9:51 am
“I like Branch’s motor & effort. Like his toughness and tackling skill. Like his speed and special teams ability.” – RRS comment #81 (above)
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I agree with all those things. But I’m also reading a WHOLE LOT about how Branch is gonna tank next year, and talking about him like he’s some scrub. I’m not certain but I though G. Wilson got quite a bit more than that money wise. Just more negative talk lately, that’s all.
July 16th, 2012 at 9:51 am
Shaincoe had his best years when Favre was QB otherwise not very speacial.
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I beg to differ. See post 190.
July 16th, 2012 at 9:52 am
Kevin Garnett was traded by demand to the Boston Celtics. He had a $126 mill contract with the TWOLVES. He got a 3 yr $60 mil extention with the Celtics. By the hugeness of his last deal, he turned his back on $30-$40 mil more. By the way, Garnett’s wife’s sister Lisa is married to Jimmy Jam.
July 16th, 2012 at 9:54 am
exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 9:52 am
Kevin Garnett was traded by demand to the Boston Celtics. He had a $126 mill contract with the TWOLVES. He got a 3 yr $60 mil extention with the Celtics. By the hugeness of his last deal, he turned his back on $30-$40 mil more. By the way, Garnett’s wife’s sister Lisa is married to Jimmy Jam.
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Kevin Garnett has made more $ off NBA contracts than anyone in NBA history…
Who made that trade by the way??.. Oh thats right, ex-Celtic Kevin McHale.
July 16th, 2012 at 9:55 am
I’m also reading a WHOLE LOT about how Branch is gonna tank next year, and talking about him like he’s some scrub. I’m not certain but I though G. Wilson got quite a bit more than that money wise. Just more negative talk lately, that’s all.
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79,
Wilson got $6.5 million per season, just like Branch.
NOBODY said that #33 is going to tank this year. Just pointed out the obvious that he wasn’t that great in his first 4 seasons. Hopefully he’s a beast under Allen & Tarver. I’m not confident enough (from what i’ve seen in the past) to put all my eggs in that basket though
July 16th, 2012 at 9:56 am
Reggie is a rookie GM and just because he’s a better businessman than Al Davis, doesnt mean he’s gonna strike gold on every draft pick or contract offered. Even the good GM’s swing & miss. Raider fans are so pumped about the new regime that they fail to realize BigMac is just a man like the rest of us and very capable of error.
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I’ve got my opinions like anyone, but I think Reggie knows a lot more than any of us how to run a team. No doubt he’ll make some mistakes along the way. I think even Reggie would accept that. It’s all good though to have a few failures as Reggie is going to weed out the non-performers soon enough and promote “his guys”. I’m all in for this change to an accountable system. The reality is there are going to be a few bad contracts and bad draft picks along the way. I’m cool with that too. As long as the end product is the system is healthy enough to reject and replace non-functioning pieces. I’m down 100 percent with Reggie to turn this thing around.
July 16th, 2012 at 9:57 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 9:55 am
I’m also reading a WHOLE LOT about how Branch is gonna tank next year, and talking about him like he’s some scrub. I’m not certain but I though G. Wilson got quite a bit more than that money wise. Just more negative talk lately, that’s all.
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79,
Wilson got $6.5 million per season, just like Branch.
NOBODY said that #33 is going to tank this year. Just pointed out the obvious that he wasn’t that great in his first 4 seasons. Hopefully he’s a beast under Allen & Tarver. I’m not confident enough (from what i’ve seen in the past) to put all my eggs in that basket though
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How many eggs are you willing to put in said basket?..
And is this out of a dozen, or how many eggs do you have??..
July 16th, 2012 at 9:57 am
guest123 Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 9:51 am
Shaincoe had his best years when Favre was QB otherwise not very speacial.
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I beg to differ. See post 190.
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Don’t we have enough decent blockers? Our guys are younger and cheaper not to mention Carson is not a fan of throwing to TE anyway.I don’t have a problem with Shaincoe but I would rather see a backup RB or a solid CB added. IMO
July 16th, 2012 at 9:58 am
Cmon Man!!
You keep comparing Branch to Wilson who was cut after one season because he couldn’t cover. Branch needs to improve in coverage, bur he is a lot better than G Wilson.
July 16th, 2012 at 9:58 am
No dice on Shiancoe for me.
July 16th, 2012 at 10:00 am
RUMOR: Dwight Howard will “protest” and will choose to sit out the entire season if not traded from Orlando.
Wouldnt that just not count towards his contract & extend it another year??
July 16th, 2012 at 10:01 am
Matt Forte gets his deal.
July 16th, 2012 at 10:01 am
Favre was a Viking in 2009 & 2010.
Visanthe Shiancoe really emerged in 2008, the year before Brett arrived in Minny.
http://www.nfl.com/player/visantheshiancoe/2505561/profile
Still, you look at his last 4 years and we dont have anybody that comes close to that type of NFL production.
to be fair, our guys haven’t had the opportunity either
it would be NEGATIVE to assume that all 5 players competing at TE will sink imo
July 16th, 2012 at 10:02 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 9:32 am
@Kell
would you rather see Reggie sign Benson or Shaincoe to add to the offense?
or nobody until we see what we’ve got (or who gets injured) in training camp & preseason ??
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Neither. I wish we had kept Bush.
July 16th, 2012 at 10:02 am
Don’t we have enough decent blockers? Our guys are younger and cheaper not to mention Carson is not a fan of throwing to TE anyway.I don’t have a problem with Shaincoe but I would rather see a backup RB or a solid CB added. IMO
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We have 3 TE’s that if we could somehow merge into one TE might be pretty good. But each of the young guys are one trick ponies, and the other is a average schlub who would never be considered at starting TE on another roster.
Why do we need another backup RB for? Have you no faith in Goodson and Jones?
July 16th, 2012 at 10:02 am
Holy Crap!!! This is so funny. Raider Fan talking smack in a major way to Colin Cowherd of BSPN, Classic stuff. I LOL So many times after viewing. Raider Nation Rise.
–> http://youtu.be/VHwdbya23fo
July 16th, 2012 at 10:05 am
what player DOES want to let their teammates down or look like a bum on the field when they review film?
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Didn’t seem to bother Slow McLame too much.
Hope you had a nice birthday Slow.
July 16th, 2012 at 10:06 am
@Dakota
Branch will be paid $16.1 million over the first two years of the deal !!
if he’s not a “great safety” in 2012 & 2013 , thats a ton of cash down the crapper
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The good thing about Branch’s deal is it only includes a 5.6 mill signing bonus. Nothing in the NFL is ever really guaranteed. so if Branch flops we eat the remaining 4 mill of his bonus and cut him before any salary comes due. THAT is smart business, and the big difference from the way Al did his deals.
July 16th, 2012 at 10:06 am
Podunker,
I agree about Reggie. He is a rookie GM with a rookie HC, so we should expect a few mistakes, but I dont think Branch is one of them.
Knapp, Tarver, and our 26 YO rookie OL are a different story.
July 16th, 2012 at 10:07 am
guest123 Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 9:51 am
Shaincoe had his best years when Favre was QB otherwise not very speacial.
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I beg to differ. See post 190.
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Don’t we have enough decent blockers? Our guys are younger and cheaper not to mention Carson is not a fan of throwing to TE anyway.I don’t have a problem with Shaincoe but I would rather see a backup RB or a solid CB added. IMO
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Never understood why people think that Carson does not like to throw to the TE? Cincinnati ran a lot of 3 receiver sets and for most of his time they did not have that great of talent at TE. Considering that John Paul Foschi was one of the Bengels good TE in Carson span. Gresham had almost 500 yards his rookie season with Palmer at QB. The team was built around his WRs.
July 16th, 2012 at 10:07 am
I know Branch wasn’t “Great”, he might never be either. I do feel like he’s dependable though, AND durable which might be the most important. I don’t think he’s missed a game yet. On a defense that has “Zero” impact players according to Jerry/Cork, Branch has been a bright spot. I at least, could always count on him to do SOMETHING….Somebody is off to the races, I know Branch is gonna come from somewhere and bring him down. Maybe he got overpaid…We won’t know until the next couple seasons are over, but I think this was the best move.
July 16th, 2012 at 10:08 am
guest123 Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 9:41 am
theghostronin79 Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 9:38 am
Branch didn’t get an “Al Davis” contract…..They freed up some cap space, AND it’s cheaper than if he were tagged twice. Hell, he could play better TOO in which case it could be a bargain. What’s the problem? Why always negative?
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Agreed! Branch is giving us his “prime” years and still has an opportunity to make bank before he’s 30 yo. That’s a win-win deal imo. Nothing but positivity from Mr. Reggie! It’s gonna be good, you’ll see.
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Agreed guys, also I think Branch has yet to play his best ball either and has room to improve.
July 16th, 2012 at 10:08 am
Just a coincidence, both Kevin McHale and Bob Dylan were born in the Iron Range town of Hibbing, Minnesota. I used to go there 3 times a year and their mall is anchored by K-Mart.
July 16th, 2012 at 10:09 am
375. I heard that one too. They were talking as if he would retire, sit a yr, then come back a fa.. Idk if you can do that or not..
July 16th, 2012 at 10:09 am
Benson signed yet?
July 16th, 2012 at 10:10 am
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Agreed guys, also I think Branch has yet to play his best ball either and has room to improve.
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YUP, Captains
Offense
Palmer / McFadden
Defense
Seymour / Branch
July 16th, 2012 at 10:10 am
Al would have paid branch 50 million dollars.. New era
July 16th, 2012 at 10:11 am
Marks hair Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 10:09 am
375. I heard that one too. They were talking as if he would retire, sit a yr, then come back a fa.. Idk if you can do that or not..
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Have to imagine that not counting towards his contract.
Would set a huge negative precedent for other players.
Cant be possible.
July 16th, 2012 at 10:11 am
I know Branch wasn’t “Great”, he might never be either. I do feel like he’s dependable though, AND durable which might be the most important. I don’t think he’s missed a game yet.
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Ooops, I forgot about his rookie season.
July 16th, 2012 at 10:12 am
Agreed guys, also I think Branch has yet to play his best ball either and has room to improve.
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Despite being a contrat year? Interesting…
Unless you’re referring to scheme-based improvement ala Tarver and DA…
July 16th, 2012 at 10:13 am
385.theghostronin79 Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 10:07 am
I know Branch wasn’t “Great”, he might never be either. I do feel like he’s dependable though, AND durable which might be the most important. I don’t think he’s missed a game yet. On a defense that has “Zero” impact players according to Jerry/Cork, Branch has been a bright spot. I at least, could always count on him to do SOMETHING….Somebody is off to the races, I know Branch is gonna come from somewhere and bring him down. Maybe he got overpaid…We won’t know until the next couple seasons are over, but I think this was the best move.
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Branch miss 14 games in his rookie season… hasn’t missed any since though.
Benson wont be signed for a few weeks until we get into camp. No need to now.
July 16th, 2012 at 10:13 am
*contract
July 16th, 2012 at 10:13 am
How many SS in the league are counted on to play man defense on the teams #1 or #2 receiver?
July 16th, 2012 at 10:13 am
guest123 Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 10:02 am
Don’t we have enough decent blockers? Our guys are younger and cheaper not to mention Carson is not a fan of throwing to TE anyway.I don’t have a problem with Shaincoe but I would rather see a backup RB or a solid CB added. IMO
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We have 3 TE’s that if we could somehow merge into one TE might be pretty good. But each of the young guys are one trick ponies, and the other is a average schlub who would never be considered at starting TE on another roster.
Why do we need another backup RB for? Have you no faith in Goodson and Jones?
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I apologize, I didn’t realise you already watched training camp and the preseaason. I must have been on vacation. Let’s see what happens with Ausberry, definate potential. (It’s not like we are a TE away from the superbowl)
Meyers is not a world class TE, but let’s face it, It’s all about our wideouts and backs when it comes to receptions this year. It’s not going to be a year of Jamarcus the hut dumping the ball to his safety blanket Zack Miller. Carson already has legit weapons.
Regarding our RB situation, I like Taiwan-Just not full time if errrr When DMAC goes down. Fast as he11 but too small IMO-Good change of pace guy though.
Goodson has potential, but fumbles really anger me as a fan. Maybe he will correct his fumbling issues maybe he won’t. I’m not a big gambler and don’t like to find things like that out the hard way. Goodson=speacial teams.
July 16th, 2012 at 10:13 am
One thing’s for sure, Gibril Wilson will never have half the skills Branch has, don’t care if he has a ring or not.
July 16th, 2012 at 10:14 am
I know Branch wasn’t “Great”, he might never be either. I do feel like he’s dependable though, AND durable which might be the most important. I don’t think he’s missed a game yet.
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Ooops, I forgot about his rookie season.
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Wasn’t it a broken hand? Doesn’t seem as bad as a knee injury in the long run…
July 16th, 2012 at 10:14 am
Let Benson sign with the Donkeys, they like thugs over there.
July 16th, 2012 at 10:15 am
DutchRaider77 Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 10:14 am
I know Branch wasn’t “Great”, he might never be either. I do feel like he’s dependable though, AND durable which might be the most important. I don’t think he’s missed a game yet.
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Ooops, I forgot about his rookie season.
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Wasn’t it a broken hand? Doesn’t seem as bad as a knee injury in the long run…
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Shoulder.
He played with a cast. But was out once he hurt his shoulder on a kick return..
July 16th, 2012 at 10:16 am
The Big Banana Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 10:12 am
Agreed guys, also I think Branch has yet to play his best ball either and has room to improve.
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Despite being a contrat year? Interesting…
Unless you’re referring to scheme-based improvement ala Tarver and DA…
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I think we see scheme based, as well as individual improvement from a few guys this year.jmo
July 16th, 2012 at 10:16 am
The team was built around his WRs.
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as is ours
July 16th, 2012 at 10:16 am
Regarding our RB situation, I like Taiwan-Just not full time if errrr When DMAC goes down. Fast as he11 but too small IMO-Good change of pace guy though.
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About the same size and height as Chris Johnson TEN, so I don’t buy that argument. He’d be just as special if he hadn’t gotten hurt.
July 16th, 2012 at 10:17 am
Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush)
Yeah, I would rather see more 3 receiver sets and Reece getting the checkdown passes anyways. Though I wonder what kind a player Ausberry will be? What kind of coverage will he dictate?
July 16th, 2012 at 10:17 am
How many eggs are you willing to put in said basket?..
And is this out of a dozen, or how many eggs do you have??..
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LOL @ DAV
great question. I’ve got a dozen eggs [12, for you non-beancounters]
Allen, Tarver, Lynn & Lopez should be able to help Branch along more than guys like Davis, Bresnahan, Woodson & Ross imo
Routt & CJ37 ousted in favor of Bartell & Spencer is a wash, at this point so the whole “supporting cast” theory can be thrown out the window.
I think (hope) we’ll be able to get better production in terms of run defense from the front seven. If that happens, Branch wont have as many tackles and he wont be in the box nearly as often.
Problem is, he’ll be in coverage … which is the aspect of his game I question the most!
Being unsold in this leads me to beleive he’ll be average again, like last year. win a few battles – lose a few others. struggle with consistency. will not join the elite. He’s got great speed & work ethic though, so I’m not writing him off. I like his toughness and tackle ability. He played CB at UConn, so coverage really shouldn’t be a problem – which is why I can see guys making a case for “BLAME THE SCHEME!” . At the same time, his play in that scheme is what resulted in this contract he just signed a few days ago, unless we’re paying for potential. If Reggie is paying for potential, I can understand that … because Branch certainly has loads of it. How often is that potential realized in Oakland? That is why I remain skeptical.
in short, I’d put 6 eggs in the Branch basket. 50%
same chance to sink as swim. If that makes me a “hater” , fine. I prefer to view myself as a realist.
July 16th, 2012 at 10:19 am
Sign Benson and ask Nap Kaufman to room with him during camp.
July 16th, 2012 at 10:21 am
RRS, fair enough.
Although I think its the tone you take and almost a “I hope Branch sucks so Im right” type of thing you pass on with some of your comments that gets people to think your a ‘hater’.. just my opinion.
I know your one of the more solid dudes in here, so I understand your not that guy. Just seems like that from an outside view..
Fair?..
July 16th, 2012 at 10:22 am
Routt & CJ37 ousted in favor of Bartell & Spencer is a wash, at this point so the whole “supporting cast” theory can be thrown out the window.
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Laughable!!!!
Routt is a very good CB!!!! With some disipline he can be elite.
If Bartell can return to pre injury form I have no major complaints.
CJ37 and SPENCER??????? Please, not even worth talking about.
July 16th, 2012 at 10:22 am
Benson is not a thug. lol..
None of his actions have been ‘thuggish’ at all.
July 16th, 2012 at 10:23 am
in short, I’d put 6 eggs in the Branch basket. 50%
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7 eggs for me
July 16th, 2012 at 10:23 am
I wouldn’t mind seeing Branch in coverage, as long as he’s on a tight end and able to play them more physically than an elite WR. Let Branch handle TE’s and average WR’s and Bartell handle the elite WR’s imo.
July 16th, 2012 at 10:23 am
I see your 7 eggs and raise to 8.
July 16th, 2012 at 10:24 am
DutchRaider77 Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 10:17 am
Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush)
Yeah, I would rather see more 3 receiver sets and Reece getting the checkdown passes anyways. Though I wonder what kind a player Ausberry will be? What kind of coverage will he dictate?
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Reece will be used in place of a typical pass catching TE. Love the possible matchups he will bring to the table!
July 16th, 2012 at 10:24 am
Lol
July 16th, 2012 at 10:25 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 10:23 am
I see your 7 eggs and raise to 8.
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Count me in for 8 eggs also
July 16th, 2012 at 10:27 am
12 eggs MFers! I’m all in!
July 16th, 2012 at 10:27 am
I agree about Reggie. He is a rookie GM with a rookie HC, so we should expect a few mistakes, but I dont think Branch is one of them.
Knapp, Tarver, and our 26 YO rookie OL are a different story.
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@Kentucky
both coordinators and his first ever draft pick ??
Ouch!
July 16th, 2012 at 10:29 am
Lol, O!
July 16th, 2012 at 10:30 am
Branch will play a lot more zone, cover TEs, and play in the box IMO. I think he will improve with a new scheme.
July 16th, 2012 at 10:31 am
Raider O Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 10:27 am
12 eggs MFers! I’m all in!
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Yeah what he said!
July 16th, 2012 at 10:33 am
The good thing about Branch’s deal is it only includes a 5.6 mill signing bonus. Nothing in the NFL is ever really guaranteed. so if Branch flops we eat the remaining 4 mill of his bonus and cut him before any salary comes due. THAT is smart business, and the big difference from the way Al did his deals.
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Bcz shows up after a 5-week hiatus to drop a knowledge bomb on us ??
welcome back bro!
July 16th, 2012 at 10:33 am
LOL
July 16th, 2012 at 10:35 am
For now, every move Reggie’s made or going to make is going to get the benefit of the doubt from me. I am confident even the puzzling moves have a rhyme and reason.
But if there are a few moves I’m not very high on it would be:
Knapp as the OC
Underwood as the troubled pre draft street FA
Spencer as the scrub castaway FA signing
The only critical mistake would be Knapp though.
July 16th, 2012 at 10:35 am
1/3 chance he flops, DAV?
I like Raider O’s style. go big or go home, lol
I’ve been that way on a few of my predictions as well.
King Darrius, baby!
July 16th, 2012 at 10:37 am
All 12 eggs in the King Darrius basket?
That’s ballsy
July 16th, 2012 at 10:39 am
What happened to Vic Tafur. His twitter page does not exist anymore.
July 16th, 2012 at 10:40 am
if there are a few moves I’m not very high on it would be:
Knapp as the OC
Underwood as the troubled pre draft street FA
Spencer as the scrub castaway FA signing
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Tarver & Lynn sold Reggie on Spencer!
they both coached him when he was starting in SF and those guys know the defensive system better than BigMac. I know it seems odd that the GM now takes the opinions of his HC, DC and position coaches seriously
Anyways, it was a cheap 1-year deal for a player with a bunch of starting experience who knows the defense and is helping the youngsters along. I’m one of the few who likes this signing.
RRS stamp of approval, Reg.
July 16th, 2012 at 10:42 am
The good thing about Branch’s deal is it only includes a 5.6 mill signing bonus. Nothing in the NFL is ever really guaranteed. so if Branch flops we eat the remaining 4 mill of his bonus and cut him before any salary comes due. THAT is smart business, and the big difference from the way Al did his deals.
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So how is the 17 mill guaranteed? Do the guarantees kick off on specific dates?
July 16th, 2012 at 10:42 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 10:40 am
if there are a few moves I’m not very high on it would be:
Knapp as the OC
Underwood as the troubled pre draft street FA
Spencer as the scrub castaway FA signing
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Tarver & Lynn sold Reggie on Spencer!
they both coached him when he was starting in SF and those guys know the defensive system better than BigMac. I know it seems odd that the GM now takes the opinions of his HC, DC and position coaches seriously
Anyways, it was a cheap 1-year deal for a player with a bunch of starting experience who knows the defense and is helping the youngsters along. I’m one of the few who likes this signing.
RRS stamp of approval, Reg.
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I like the fact of adding veteran depth and letting the young guys pick his brain, but if Chekwa beats him for the job, so be it.
July 16th, 2012 at 10:43 am
RR,
I’m not saying they are not going to do well, but I do think they have a lot to prove.
-Tarver: college DC and a LB coach (SF) in the NFL is not an impressive resume.
-Knapp: after being an OC in SF, ATL, OAK, and Seattle, he was demoted to a QB coach which is not s good sign.
-26 YO rookie OL (who has not been practicing with the 1st unit) over a few good NTs abs pass rushers was a mistake IMO.
July 16th, 2012 at 10:43 am
All 12 eggs in the King Darrius basket?
That’s ballsy
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@G123
not as ballsy as trading McClain & Ford to Buffalo in exchange for Kirk Morrison & Derek Hagan!!
do it McKenzie
July 16th, 2012 at 10:44 am
Anyways, it was a cheap 1-year deal for a player with a bunch of starting experience who knows the defense and is helping the youngsters along.
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This sounds alot like Matt Leinart, no?
July 16th, 2012 at 10:45 am
And* pass ….
I agree about Spencer. I’m not sold on him.
July 16th, 2012 at 10:46 am
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I like the fact of adding veteran depth and letting the young guys pick his brain, but if Chekwa beats him for the job, so be it.
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I agree with that. I think Chekwa was making some good strides and growing into his position at the NFL level. More so than DVD anyway….Then he got hurt. Damned injury bug anyway. It could be a decent tandem
Bartell / Chekwa
July 16th, 2012 at 10:46 am
Grant Hill leaning towards Lakers.
July 16th, 2012 at 10:47 am
I like the fact of adding veteran depth and letting the young guys pick his brain, but if Chekwa beats him for the job, so be it.
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@Tx
Bartell & Spencer have both admitted that it’s an open competition and stated “may the best man win” said that they are tutoring the youngins the same way they were mentored when they first entered the league.
July 16th, 2012 at 10:47 am
I also don’t have a very good feeling about a 26 yo rookie not ready to compete yet with the big boys. I figure if you are taking one in the draft that old, he better be ready to rumble. 26 projects need not apply.
July 16th, 2012 at 10:47 am
Knapp as the OC
Underwood as the troubled pre draft street FA
Spencer as the scrub castaway FA signing
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Underwood was a league minimum camp body/special teamer that he was familiar with.
Spencer was a starter before an injury plagued 2011, he is hardly a “scrub castaway” MUCH better CB than anything we had last season at his position.
July 16th, 2012 at 10:48 am
Anyone here comfortable with counting on McLame this season ?
Even if he manages to avoid suspension, we’re already hearing about stem cell treatments and arthritis.
The funeral/arrest incident raises questions about his commitment.
His jogging, whiffing, play has been suspect to put it mildly.
So if McLame can’t be counted on – what’s left at the LB position ?
Curry and Wheeler. Goethel. Burris. Stupar. And not much else. Gonna move Tollefson ?
Yikes.
If this isn’t the weakest LB corps in the NFL, it’s got to be close.
Relying on McLame to come through and not having a reliable alternative is just asking for trouble.
July 16th, 2012 at 10:48 am
MUCH better CB than anything we had last season at his position.
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Had one of the highest burn rates in the league and was demoted from his starting spot. I’d take CJ37 over him right now.
July 16th, 2012 at 10:49 am
So how is the 17 mill guaranteed? Do the guarantees kick off on specific dates?
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Like any contract in the NFL, it’s never really guaranteed until it’s paid. Think back to Jerry’s article early in the offseason about ‘guaranteed money’
July 16th, 2012 at 10:49 am
Raider O Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 10:30 am
Branch will play a lot more zone, cover TEs, and play in the box IMO. I think he will improve with a new scheme.
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I agree with this 100%! No offense I love the Late and Great Al Davis, but with him gone the defense can now do what they need to do. Scheme alone will make us 50% better than last year.
July 16th, 2012 at 10:49 am
That Hagan release still gets me…and for a last shot redemption for TJ! Still SMH!
July 16th, 2012 at 10:50 am
I’m not comfortable with McCheese ever growing up or into the position. I’ll believe it when I see it, but I’ve got zero eggs in that basket.
July 16th, 2012 at 10:51 am
This sounds alot like Matt Leinart, no?
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@G123
well, Leinart is a Hollywood playboy & 1st round bust. doesnt have a bunch of starting experience and he’s injury proned.
Lionfart isn’t competing for a starting job in Oakland, either.
where is the comparison, GMoney?
that he’s a system fit to Knapp, who you state was a bad hire ??
LOL
July 16th, 2012 at 10:51 am
I leave for a few minutes and were talking about eggs
July 16th, 2012 at 10:52 am
Marks hair Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 10:51 am
I leave for a few minutes and were talking about eggs
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Sorry.
July 16th, 2012 at 10:52 am
Marks hair Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 10:51 am
I leave for a few minutes and were talking about eggs
And Lionfart! There’s your connection! LOL
July 16th, 2012 at 10:53 am
Hope McK signs Benson to a bargain deal.
It would be an important pickup IMO for depth purposes.
Benson would be a solid backup to DMC and the pressure would not be on T Jones or Goodson to perform every week.
T Jones is best served as a change of pace back at this point.
July 16th, 2012 at 10:53 am
Had one of the highest burn rates in the league and was demoted from his starting spot. I’d take CJ37 over him right now.
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Did CJ37 defend one single pass last year in the limited time he played? His burn rate had to be approaching 100%… Lito was pretty awful too, it was pretty obvious why he was cut after just 1 preseason game, and only resigned via necessity. DVD is one of the last of Al’s awful picks based on nothing more than speed… he will be gone in 2 years when his rookie deal is up if not before. Checkwa has potential, but the guy makes Chaz Schilens look durable.
July 16th, 2012 at 10:53 am
I’ve got zero eggs in that basket
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holy smokes, Jimbo!
I thought I was the biggest Rolando World Peace hater on the blog, but even I have 4 eggs in that basket
July 16th, 2012 at 10:53 am
I’m not comfortable with McCheese ever growing up or into the position. I’ll believe it when I see it, but I’ve got zero eggs in that basket.
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Yup….They should put an eyeball on that Kid “Shane Skov” from Stanford. He plays angry and always around the football. Any guy that has a Mohawk has an attitude. That’s what we need on D…a Bad ATTITUDE.
July 16th, 2012 at 10:53 am
I’ll take mine over easy with bacon and hashbrowns.
July 16th, 2012 at 10:54 am
@RR and 79
I guess the true test will be seeing if RM does this how he says he will and puts the best football players on the field. I like CJ37 over Spencer too, but I’m hoping this group of coaches is on to something.
July 16th, 2012 at 10:55 am
Lionfart isn’t competing for a starting job in Oakland, either.
where is the comparison, GMoney?
that he’s a system fit to Knapp, who you state was a bad hire ??
LOL
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LOL
I don’t like the hire of Knapp. I don’t think I’ve ever mentioned it, but if I did I wasn’t very vocal about it. So I like the Matty Lice signing if only as a system fit, correct!
July 16th, 2012 at 10:55 am
Checkwa has potential, but the guy makes Chaz Schilens look durable.
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@Bcz
I encourage you to re-watch the Jets game with Chewy attempting to cover Santonio Holmes. not pretty!
July 16th, 2012 at 10:55 am
This is why DVD and Chekwa need to step it the hell up this year.
July 16th, 2012 at 10:55 am
Marks hair Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 10:53 am
I’ll take mine over easy with bacon and hashbrowns.
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Sunnyside up or die.
July 16th, 2012 at 10:56 am
Lionfart is miles better than Boller, lets just get that straight. He has experience and is in a more mature position with x-teamate Palmer. He can win a game if called upon. If he had to start say 5-6 games he would implode and defenses would crush him, but I think in a game or half of play he can manage a huddle well enough until Pryor make strides mentally in the offense and huddle.
July 16th, 2012 at 10:56 am
451.DKnight007 Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 10:53 am
Hope McK signs Benson to a bargain deal.
It would be an important pickup IMO for depth purposes.
Benson would be a solid backup to DMC and the pressure would not be on T Jones or Goodson to perform every week.
T Jones is best served as a change of pace back at this point.
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I agree about signing Benson, I wanted him all offseason. Who gets cut though
Goodson
TJones
Reece
Schmitt
Tonga
Pick 2… We aren’t carrying 6 active runners.
July 16th, 2012 at 10:57 am
I like the Matty Lice signing if only as a system fit, correct!
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nice, G123
RM99 with another “quote of the day”
July 16th, 2012 at 10:57 am
Just as long as the D doesn’t get stuck into playing a base 4-3 man to on the outside and a center field Huff FS every damn down, then the D will improve.
Hope Allen and Tarver can teach these guys how to play zone and disguise zone coverages and zone blitz with effectively.
July 16th, 2012 at 10:57 am
@Bcz
I encourage you to re-watch the Jets game with Chewy attempting to cover Santonio Holmes. not pretty!
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Just to be fair, nobody really looks pretty trying to cover a Super Bowl MVP winner….. C’mon Mayun
July 16th, 2012 at 10:58 am
3 eggs in the McClain basket, though I hope I am wrong. It is troubling how easy he is eliminated from plays.
July 16th, 2012 at 10:58 am
Tongas gonzo
July 16th, 2012 at 10:58 am
bcz24 Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 10:56 am
451.DKnight007 Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 10:53 am
Hope McK signs Benson to a bargain deal.
It would be an important pickup IMO for depth purposes.
Benson would be a solid backup to DMC and the pressure would not be on T Jones or Goodson to perform every week.
T Jones is best served as a change of pace back at this point.
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I agree about signing Benson, I wanted him all offseason. Who gets cut though
Goodson
TJones
Reece
Schmitt
Tonga
Pick 2… We aren’t carrying 6 active runners.
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Tonga is gone already. That has nothing to do with Benson.
Benson’s spot wont come from the backfield.
July 16th, 2012 at 10:58 am
462.bcz24 Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 10:56 am
451.DKnight007 Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 10:53 am
Hope McK signs Benson to a bargain deal.
It would be an important pickup IMO for depth purposes.
Benson would be a solid backup to DMC and the pressure would not be on T Jones or Goodson to perform every week.
T Jones is best served as a change of pace back at this point.
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I agree about signing Benson, I wanted him all offseason. Who gets cut though
Goodson
TJones
Reece
Schmitt
Tonga
Pick 2… We aren’t carrying 6 active runners.
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Tonga or Schmitty would be bye bye when Benson comes back in Week 4 I believe?
July 16th, 2012 at 10:58 am
We aren’t carrying 6 active runners.
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agree! We already have our 5:
DMC, Jones, Goodson, Schmitt, Reece
We don’t want or need CBenson
July 16th, 2012 at 10:59 am
468.DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 10:58 am
bcz24 Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 10:56 am
451.DKnight007 Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 10:53 am
Hope McK signs Benson to a bargain deal.
It would be an important pickup IMO for depth purposes.
Benson would be a solid backup to DMC and the pressure would not be on T Jones or Goodson to perform every week.
T Jones is best served as a change of pace back at this point.
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I agree about signing Benson, I wanted him all offseason. Who gets cut though
Goodson
TJones
Reece
Schmitt
Tonga
Pick 2… We aren’t carrying 6 active runners.
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Tonga is gone already. That has nothing to do with Benson.
Benson’s spot wont come from the backfield.
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There you go…
July 16th, 2012 at 11:00 am
you fellas dont know Schmitt!!
July 16th, 2012 at 11:00 am
actually, I think a few of you are full of Schmitt!!
July 16th, 2012 at 11:01 am
Lol, RRS
July 16th, 2012 at 11:02 am
Good deal for Branch.
McK knows what he is doing.
Old man Al would have paid double that amount for Branch if not triple. Oooff!
July 16th, 2012 at 11:03 am
theghostronin79 Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 10:57 am
@Bcz
I encourage you to re-watch the Jets game with Chewy attempting to cover Santonio Holmes. not pretty!
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Just to be fair, nobody really looks pretty trying to cover a Super Bowl MVP winner….. C’mon Mayun
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The main concern I have with Chekwa is that his injury last year was the shoulder that he hurt in college, I think. He needs to shake it and get that thing healed, because if he hurts it a 3rd time he’s gone imo.
July 16th, 2012 at 11:07 am
Hey fellas, we still at 89 on the roster?
July 16th, 2012 at 11:12 am
I’m Bout to go shoot 18 fellers…company Golf Tourney.
Nice little half day, with some Raider Talk to get me started. Then home to my ladies….Ya’ll have a great day.
July 16th, 2012 at 11:12 am
I would rather take the chance with our current RBs and get an awesome CB.
July 16th, 2012 at 11:13 am
Have fun 79, on the company dolla!
July 16th, 2012 at 11:14 am
I’m more concerned about ShoNasty’s shoulder, than Chekwa’s.
More concerned about Mitchell’s knee, than Tonga’s.
More concerned about Moore’s hammy, than Murphy or McGee’s.
Palmer’s arm & McFadden’s feet are our keys to the playoffs imo (regardless of what the Defense looks like)
July 16th, 2012 at 11:14 am
Well, if you ask me …. Benson might be brought in only if some injuries occur. At this point there is no rush, he is looking like a verteran minmum 1-year deal at this point. Therefore I bet Reggie will be looking at LB’s, EJ Henderson …. at least he should be …. or possibly sit quiet till players are waived and find some cheap value with his scouting skills.
Reggie traded for Goodson … and Taiwan is intriguing but he is very unproven at this point.
Benson is durable and a downhill runner much like Bush, BUT he is not a character guy that Allen and reggie want.
July 16th, 2012 at 11:15 am
Truth is Owen Schmitt is probably the best blocking FB we have had in 10+ years. He will earn his spot. It really comes down to this, if we sign Benson we cut either Goodson or TJones. This isn’t a guess, we CAN NOT carry 6 RB’s on the 53 man roster.
July 16th, 2012 at 11:15 am
home to my ladies
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79 has multiple wives?
nice work Romney!
July 16th, 2012 at 11:15 am
Raiderbuck Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 11:12 am
I would rather take the chance with our current RBs and get an awesome CB.
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Ahhh the awesome CB who for some reason is a free agent on July 16th lol…
July 16th, 2012 at 11:15 am
Have fun 79, on the company dolla!
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Thanks dude, I’ll catch ya next time.
July 16th, 2012 at 11:16 am
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79 has multiple wives?
nice work Romney!
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LOL……..Wife / Daughter
July 16th, 2012 at 11:16 am
Truth is Owen Schmitt is probably the best blocking FB we have had in 10+ years. He will earn his spot
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@Bcz
run blocking? no question
pass blocking ???
July 16th, 2012 at 11:16 am
bcz24 Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 11:15 am
Truth is Owen Schmitt is probably the best blocking FB we have had in 10+ years. He will earn his spot. It really comes down to this, if we sign Benson we cut either Goodson or TJones. This isn’t a guess, we CAN NOT carry 6 RB’s on the 53 man roster.
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Oren O’Neal wants to see you in the kitchen.
July 16th, 2012 at 11:17 am
just kiddin, 79
have a great day bro!
July 16th, 2012 at 11:18 am
Oren O’Neal wants to see you in the kitchen
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@DAV
OO is currently being served at the soup kitchen. your donations would be much appreciated
July 16th, 2012 at 11:18 am
Schmitt could probably be a better LB than McClain too.
July 16th, 2012 at 11:19 am
@Bcz
run blocking? no question
pass blocking ???
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Reece should be the only FB on the field in passing situations. He is a threat as a receiver and can adequately pick up a blitzer. DMac is a NASTY pass blocker, I dont expect us to be in much 2 RB personal for passing situations anyways. We have some quality receivers we need to get on the field.
July 16th, 2012 at 11:20 am
Terrelle Pryor was going to meet with Rich Gannon sometime between OTA’s & training camp …
Anybody know if this has happened yet?
July 16th, 2012 at 11:20 am
I think most of us are skeptical about McLame. You’d have to be blind and foolish NOT to be.
The point of my post was not to bag on McLame (although that is fun and well deserved).
The issue here is whether Reggie has done nearly enough to bolster the LB corps in the wake of Kam’s departure and the uncertainty revolving around Slowlando.
Was signing Wheeler enough ?
I get that he drafted Burris and Stupar. Hoping for a sizable contribution from either of them this year might be a stretch.
I don’t know if there’s any FA Reggie is interested in right now. I fully expect the Raids to be scouring the waiver wire.
Can’t see the Raids going into 2012 with the LB corps as it is currently comprised.
July 16th, 2012 at 11:22 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 11:20 am
Terrelle Pryor was going to meet with Rich Gannon sometime between OTA’s & training camp …
Anybody know if this has happened yet?
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I heard Gannon gave him a jersey and Pryor hooked em up with a tattoo.
July 16th, 2012 at 11:23 am
I don’t know if there’s any FA Reggie is interested in right now. I fully expect the Raids to be scouring the waiver wire.
Can’t see the Raids going into 2012 with the LB corps as it is currently comprised.
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@ RM99
any suggestions??
July 16th, 2012 at 11:24 am
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 11:20 am
I think most of us are skeptical about McLame. You’d have to be blind and foolish NOT to be.
The point of my post was not to bag on McLame (although that is fun and well deserved).
The issue here is whether Reggie has done nearly enough to bolster the LB corps in the wake of Kam’s departure and the uncertainty revolving around Slowlando.
Was signing Wheeler enough ?
I get that he drafted Burris and Stupar. Hoping for a sizable contribution from either of them this year might be a stretch.
I don’t know if there’s any FA Reggie is interested in right now. I fully expect the Raids to be scouring the waiver wire.
Can’t see the Raids going into 2012 with the LB corps as it is currently comprised.
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EJ Henderson may be a solid pick up on the cheap, just in case Turdlando plays like crap or goes to the big house.
July 16th, 2012 at 11:24 am
479.Raiderbuck Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 11:12 am
I would rather take the chance with our current RBs and get an awesome CB.
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There is no awesome CB out there….gotta find a waiver wire surprise somewhere.
July 16th, 2012 at 11:24 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 11:23 am
I don’t know if there’s any FA Reggie is interested in right now. I fully expect the Raids to be scouring the waiver wire.
Can’t see the Raids going into 2012 with the LB corps as it is currently comprised.
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@ RM99
any suggestions??
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I totally see them going into the season with the current LBs.
Only thing that changes it would be injury.
July 16th, 2012 at 11:25 am
498.TxRaider210 Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 11:24 am
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 11:20 am
I think most of us are skeptical about McLame. You’d have to be blind and foolish NOT to be.
The point of my post was not to bag on McLame (although that is fun and well deserved).
The issue here is whether Reggie has done nearly enough to bolster the LB corps in the wake of Kam’s departure and the uncertainty revolving around Slowlando.
Was signing Wheeler enough ?
I get that he drafted Burris and Stupar. Hoping for a sizable contribution from either of them this year might be a stretch.
I don’t know if there’s any FA Reggie is interested in right now. I fully expect the Raids to be scouring the waiver wire.
Can’t see the Raids going into 2012 with the LB corps as it is currently comprised.
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EJ Henderson may be a solid pick up on the cheap, just in case Turdlando plays like crap or goes to the big house.
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I agree. Sign Benson and EJ Henderson!
July 16th, 2012 at 11:25 am
I heard Gannon gave him a jersey and Pryor hooked em up with a tattoo.
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@ paradise
I hope Pryor tattooed a Tampa Bay Bucs logo on his lower back
tramp stamp!
July 16th, 2012 at 11:26 am
483.bcz24 Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 11:15 am
Truth is Owen Schmitt is probably the best blocking FB we have had in 10+ years. He will earn his spot. It really comes down to this, if we sign Benson we cut either Goodson or TJones. This isn’t a guess, we CAN NOT carry 6 RB’s on the 53 man roster.
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Goodson might be split on KR’s with Ford.
July 16th, 2012 at 11:27 am
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Guest said:
“If Reggie is throwing the white towel on fortifying the TE position, or crossing his fingers and hoping, I think it’s a huge flaw that will bite us in the butt later.
You can’t throw out a liability at any position and expect the opposing DC’s not to take advantage of it. The key is to create matchup nightmares at each skill position and force the defense to “pick their poison”. The guys we have at TE don’t put fear into anybody. They are a weakness the defenses will expose.”
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Knapp has stressed how important the TE position is in his offense so it would be surprising if Reggie is telling him to just deal with what he’s got…IF Knapp is unhappy with the situation.
The fact no moves are being made tells me Knapp himself is confident we can get it done with who we’ve got.
July 16th, 2012 at 11:28 am
raiderinparadise Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 11:14 am
Well, if you ask me …. Benson might be brought in only if some injuries occur. At this point there is no rush, he is looking like a verteran minmum 1-year deal at this point. Therefore I bet Reggie will be looking at LB’s, EJ Henderson …. at least he should be …. or possibly sit quiet till players are waived and find some cheap value with his scouting skills.
Reggie traded for Goodson … and Taiwan is intriguing but he is very unproven at this point.
Benson is durable and a downhill runner much like Bush, BUT he is not a character guy that Allen and reggie want.
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Think you hit the nail on the head there, LB is more of a concern to me than RB, other than the fact that I think Burris will be a flat out beast anytime he takes the field.
July 16th, 2012 at 11:28 am
I totally see them going into the season with the current LBs.
Only thing that changes it would be injury.
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@DAV
I havent seen your 53 man roster in a while. Who do you have as depth behind McClain, Curry & Wheeler [besides Burris!]
Goethel & Stupar? or perhaps a few undrafted kids?
July 16th, 2012 at 11:30 am
I see the attention on Branch in the new scheme but nobody is realizing that Huff can be elite in this shceme. He has proven a knack to make plays on the ball when its in the air and that was in a horrible scheme from the 40’s or something.
I think Huff has a big year as nobody talks about him.
Huff-daddy will get to play to the ball rather than the man in the pass game.
Branch is better gainst the run and blitzing.
July 16th, 2012 at 11:33 am
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TxRaider210 Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 11:28 am
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Thanks. Yes Miles film is impressive, lowly competetion but he is a grinder, I really hope he serves us well asap. Shaugnessy is going to garner a lot of attention healthy with Seymour and Houston and Kelly.
The D could be special overnight if the corners don’t give up the big plays and penalties.
July 16th, 2012 at 11:33 am
I have the LB’s as: Curry McClain Wheeler
Burris Goethel Stupar
July 16th, 2012 at 11:33 am
Guys are talking about rookies and doubting our guys will make an impact first year but I really think they can.
Gone are the days of the dutiful student sitting on the sidelines, learning the craft and “developing” their game.
I was watching NFLN last night about the top rookie seasons and saw how Big Ben has come in and won his first 14 in a row at the most important position on the field.
Eddie George, Curt Warner, Adrian Peterson etc. etc. Heck, Von Miller made a HUGE impact as a rookie.
We don’t know for sure of course, but I think a guy like Burris can come in right away and do some real good things.
No, i don’t have “proof” he will, but let’s not discount the potential of one of our rookies stepping in right away and being studs.
I think Criner is another one.
Yes, i’m drinking the rookie kool aid but u never know.
July 16th, 2012 at 11:33 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 11:28 am
I totally see them going into the season with the current LBs.
Only thing that changes it would be injury.
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@DAV
I havent seen your 53 man roster in a while. Who do you have as depth behind McClain, Curry & Wheeler [besides Burris!]
Goethel & Stupar? or perhaps a few undrafted kids?
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OLB – Phillip Wheeler
MLB – Rolondo McClain
OLB – Aaron Curry
- Miles Burris
- Nathan Stupar
- Travis Goethel
- Kaelin Burnett
Also factor in Tollefson could see time at OLB too.
July 16th, 2012 at 11:34 am
Jaguars beat deadline with deal for Josh Scobee
the 4-year deal is worth $13.8 million total, with $4.75 million guaranteed.
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the Jags locked up their franchise kicker for less than $3.5 million per season!
how much are we paying Seabass, again?
July 16th, 2012 at 11:34 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 11:25 am
I heard Gannon gave him a jersey and Pryor hooked em up with a tattoo.
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@ paradise
I hope Pryor tattooed a Tampa Bay Bucs logo on his lower back
tramp stamp!
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lol.. we call them pull out targets !!!
July 16th, 2012 at 11:35 am
raiderinparadise Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 11:33 am
@
TxRaider210 Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 11:28 am
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Thanks. Yes Miles film is impressive, lowly competetion but he is a grinder, I really hope he serves us well asap. Shaugnessy is going to garner a lot of attention healthy with Seymour and Houston and Kelly.
The D could be special overnight if the corners don’t give up the big plays and penalties.
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Yeah I’d like to see Shonasty, Burris, Bartell and Branch play with high intensity and get these other guys excited and ready to hit someone.
July 16th, 2012 at 11:38 am
Kaelin Burnett makes the 53, DAV?
how did he do at OTA’s ??
got a scouting report on him?
all I know is he’s a tweener from the University of Nevada … what else you got?
July 16th, 2012 at 11:41 am
Knapp has stressed how important the TE position is in his offense so it would be surprising if Reggie is telling him to just deal with what he’s got…IF Knapp is unhappy with the situation.
The fact no moves are being made tells me Knapp himself is confident we can get it done with who we’ve got.
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@ DJ,
Do you really believe that Knapp has full autonomy over the players he coaches? Like any employee, he deals with the hand he’s been given. I bet Knapp would love to have a Graham or Gronkowski, but it’s not up to him who is the starting Raider TE. That’s Reggie’s job.
July 16th, 2012 at 11:41 am
Kaelin Burnett is the younger brother of Dolphins (and formerly Cowboys & Chargers) OLB Kevin Burnett
the cousin of NBA forward Amir Johnson, who currently plays for the Toronto Raptors
July 16th, 2012 at 11:42 am
I believe Kaelin Burnett makes the 53. OTA reports on him have been very good. Have heard nothing but positive things.
July 16th, 2012 at 11:43 am
@ TexRadier210 ……
Shonasty will play elite.
Branch will be solid.
Bartell will be our best leader of the corners.
and Burris is up in the air ….
Greatest thing I look forward to MNF against SD is attacking Rivers and that make-shift o-line.
I will be there!
July 16th, 2012 at 11:46 am
It’s been awhile since I mentioned McCheese, but I’m still upset he’s on the team. I said months ago he should have been cut, and if he’s on the roster today, I am convinced it is only out of his roster cap hit he would cause. If we could release him for free like they do in the NBA, (amnesty clause) I’d think they’d go ahead and do it already. No room on this team for fools like McCheese. He’s dead to me.
July 16th, 2012 at 11:46 am
Kaelin Burnett Q & A
[05/03/12]
http://tfdssports.com/2012-articles/may/getting-to-know-kaelin-burnett.html
July 16th, 2012 at 11:47 am
I think Ausberry can be sloid in the passing game, but each TE is different.
Myers – most experienced and safe pick, good to solid at every phase but not great at any.
Gordon – best blocker of them all by far, but lacks playmaking ability and is slower than most LB’s .. a goaline short yardage TE.
Ausberry – the most natural pass catcher, speedy and atheltic, needs to be a better blocker to play every down. can he get there in 1 off-season?
Reece – expect him to be there at times.
July 16th, 2012 at 11:48 am
Burnett’s bio at Raiders.com
COLLEGE: Played three years at Nevada after transferring from Delta State…Saw action in 38 career games…Posted 93 tackles (41 solo), 10 sacks for 47 yards in losses, three forced fumbles, one fumble recovery and one pass defensed…Converted to defensive end prior to senior season…Played in 13 games, recorded career highs with 51 tackles (20), five sacks and 11 tackles for loss…Saw time in all 13 regular season games the Kraft Fight Hunger Bowl on defense and special teams as a junior…Played both outside linebacker and also as a down lineman…Credited with 30 tackles including 4.5 for a loss of 14 yards…Recorded two sacks against Boston College in the Kraft Fight Hunger Bowl…Played in 11 games as a junior…Recorded 12 tackles including 1.5 sacks for a loss of seven yards…Also posted a forced fumble and a blocked punt…Sat out sophomore year after transferring…At Delta State, played in all 12 games with 20 tackles, one sack for loss and two passes defensed as a freshman…Studied business administration.
PERSONAL: Attended Mayfair (Lakewood, Calif.) High School …A three-year letterman in football…A first-team All-Suburban League selection as a senior in 2006…Also a multi-year letterman in track and field in hurdles and high jump…Brother, Kevin, has played for the Dallas Cowboys, the San Diego Chargers and the Miami Dolphins after playing collegiately at Tennessee.
July 16th, 2012 at 11:49 am
raiderinparadise Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 11:43 am
@ TexRadier210 ……
Shonasty will play elite.
Branch will be solid.
Bartell will be our best leader of the corners.
and Burris is up in the air ….
Greatest thing I look forward to MNF against SD is attacking Rivers and that make-shift o-line.
I will be there!
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That should be an awesome game for sure, with Rivers hitting the turf several times I hope. Teams really won’t know what to expect from Tarver and DA, which could also play to Raider’s advantage.
July 16th, 2012 at 11:52 am
@TxRaider210 …
Good point, the pre-season raiders will be vanilla and show/flirt a few schemes and then MNF they will be linnig up in 3-4’s … 4-3’s … Nickel and dimes with 5 on the 2nd tier … it’ll be fun wathcing our atheletes fly around and make plays for once.
Curry will be playing in a nice situation now too.
July 16th, 2012 at 11:52 am
Kaelin Burnett on twitter:
http://twitter.com/whodatbeezy
July 16th, 2012 at 11:56 am
raiderinparadise Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 11:52 am
@TxRaider210 …
Good point, the pre-season raiders will be vanilla and show/flirt a few schemes and then MNF they will be linnig up in 3-4’s … 4-3’s … Nickel and dimes with 5 on the 2nd tier … it’ll be fun wathcing our atheletes fly around and make plays for once.
Curry will be playing in a nice situation now too.
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Thanks, I think they’ll be a bit vanilla in pre-season also, which should have our division worried. I just hope the new scheme, along with more discipline and fewer penalties, can make this defense solid.
July 16th, 2012 at 11:57 am
@DAV
still nothing on Kaelin Burnett from you?
I posted a few little nuggets about him, from a quick Google search.
July 16th, 2012 at 11:59 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 11:57 am
@DAV
still nothing on Kaelin Burnett from you?
I posted a few little nuggets about him, from a quick Google search.
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Its called lunch time lol..
July 16th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
I did notice during OTA’s that there were quite a few pics of Burnett on the site, maybe he was making plays, or maybe just lucky timing..
July 16th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
Burnett can play DE & OLB.
Huge in the multiple look Allen/Tarver defense.
July 16th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
Anyone who tells you that Ausberry is some great receiver is kidding themselves. The fact is the sample size is much to small to be convinced. He had that one toe tap TD in the preseason last year and 2 regular season catches. I don’t buy the myth that he is the second coming of Hakeem Nicks or Jimmy Graham if only he gets the chance.
I’m not an Ausberry hater, but enough people repeat what everyone else is saying, and soon enough it’s preached like Gospel truth.
We don’t know if Ausberry will ever pan out. He’s not had much experience at the TE position in his life and he’s pretty much a 25 yo rookie.
July 16th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
Its called lunch time
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sorry man, finish your tacos
July 16th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
Myers is a very good special teamer, but below avg at blocking and avg at best at catching. He’s got no ability to gain yards after catch as his MO is to find a soft tuft of grass to fall on after he catches the ball. Myers is a below avg starting TE, and likely the worst of the 32 NFL teams if you were to rank them.
July 16th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
so basically,
Burnett & Tollefson replace Moss & Scott ??
Stupar replaces Blackstock.
Wheeler & Burris replace Wimbley & Groves …
July 16th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Gordon is touted as some kind of “super-blocker”, but that reputation has yet to be tested in combat. Again, I don’t know where the reps get started, but it’s one thing to block well in the preseason and OTA’s and it’s a different thing when you have to do it with live bullets over 16 games.
Gordon’s statistical sample size makes him an unknown, just the same as Ausberry.
July 16th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Anyone have an idea of what will happen to Dumervil after his latest incident? Even if he doesn’t catch a case, it’ll be his 2nd screw-up and could be subject to league discipline. If he does get suspended, Dungver will miss him and Williams.
July 16th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
so basically,
Burnett & Tollefson replace Moss & Scott ??
Stupar replaces Blackstock.
Wheeler & Burris replace Wimbley & Groves …
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not linearly,
but yes.
July 16th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
so basically,
Burnett & Tollefson replace Moss & Scott ??
Stupar replaces Blackstock.
Wheeler & Burris replace Wimbley & Groves …
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Basically.
July 16th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
so basically,
Burnett & Tollefson replace Moss & Scott ??
Stupar replaces Blackstock.
Wheeler & Burris replace Wimbley & Groves …
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Looks that way to me bro, don’t think we’ll miss those guys much at all.
July 16th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
Although Crawford is the Moss replacement..
July 16th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
Gordon – best blocker of them all by far, but lacks playmaking ability and is slower than most LB’s .. a goaline short yardage TE.
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Not disputing…but I had high hopes after the DVD quote of: Impressions of sixth-round pick Richard Gordon of Miami
“Richard Gordon, he’s a freak, man. He reminds me of Antonio Gates. We do one-on-ones, the safeties can’t go against him cause they can’t guard him, so the corners go against him. So he’s a great guy, he’s a good athlete and hard working, so I’m glad he’s on our team.”
July 16th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
Crawford is the Moss replacement..
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Hmmmm, so Burnett replaces those ST guys like Bruce Davis II & Ricky Brown who existed before Hue Jackson took over ??
Hue Jax put ZERO priority on special teams.
Poor Bones Fassel!
July 16th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
I don’t mean to knock Gordon. I haven’t seen enough of his game to really have an opinion one way or the other. But the fact Myer’s in with ones, and I know all I need to know about Myer’s game, makes me wonder if Gordon is ever going to make it. He should be blowing Myers doors off in yr 2.
July 16th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
I thought Gordon was basically a blocker?
July 16th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
If I counted right, we have 90 guys on the roster, 2 being Carmona and King, back-up kickers who won’t make the 53.
July 16th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
Crawford is the Moss replacement..
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Hmmmm, so Burnett replaces those ST guys like Bruce Davis II & Ricky Brown who existed before Hue Jackson took over ??
Hue Jax put ZERO priority on special teams.
Poor Bones Fassel!
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Yea, except Burnett might actually be able to contribute on defense too..
I think Pat Lee has a strong case to make the team too based on ST play..
July 16th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
I know all I need to know about Myer’s game
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@G123
writing Myers off after just 12 starts in 3 seasons?
the most glaring stat to me I think is 32 catches, 1 fumble and ZERO touchdowns. Longest reception of his short career is 24 yards.
He’s only 26 though and has plenty of potential.
Ugh! theres that darn P word again …
July 16th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
Analysis
DEPTH CHARTS FEATURE – What Ourlads NFL Scouting Services said before TYVON BRANCH made the Oakland Raiders’ depth chart: Connecticut, 5113 204 4.34. Two-year starter. Three career interceptions. Rare speed and good athletic ability. Good instincts. Stays tight to receiver in man coverage. Good short area quickness in zone coverage. Plays the ball well in the air. Outstanding range and cross field speed. Good tackler. Not afraid. Will compete. Good sized corner that plays hard. Has experience returning kicks. Looks like a Cover-2 corner. Good football intelligence. Natural athletic ability doesn’t always show, but he has talent, speed, smarts, and tackling ability. Should contribute on special teams coverage. OSR:3/32. BTR:left 4.48, right 4.68. Fourth/fifth round. (A-31, H-8 3/8, SS-4.41, VJ-34).
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Scouting site Ourlads said the above about Tyvon before he was drafted.
July 16th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
per roto world:
15. Carson Palmer
Best Case: Saved from new OC Greg Knapp’s run-heavy system by budding superstar Denarius Moore, Palmer is allowed to let it fly more than anyone predicted during his age-32 campaign. He produces at a high-end QB2 level.
Worst Case: Knapp pounds the ground into the stone age, while Palmer’s arm strength and mobility limitations are more glaring than ever. GM Reggie McKenzie cries himself to sleep every night thinking about the trade Hue Jackson made in October 2011
July 16th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
writing Myers off after just 12 starts in 3 seasons?
the most glaring stat to me I think is 32 catches, 1 fumble and ZERO touchdowns. Longest reception of his short career is 24 yards.
He’s only 26 though and has plenty of potential.
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Myers isn’t NFL Quality starting TE. Sorry. He just doesn’t get promoted because Boss skipped town. He’s a plodder who is a capable catcher and falldown guy. Catches then falls. rinse/repeat. He’s a decent special teamer though. I’ll take him on my 53 because of just that alone. But if it weren’t for that, I’d cut him. He’s nothing special nor will he ever be. 26? might as well be 36.
July 16th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
the Jags locked up their franchise kicker for less than $3.5 million per season!
how much are we paying Seabass, again?
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About the same. We are on the hook for 1.8 this year and 3.8 next. His deal was 4 years 16 mill
July 16th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
bcz24 Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
the Jags locked up their franchise kicker for less than $3.5 million per season!
how much are we paying Seabass, again?
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About the same. We are on the hook for 1.8 this year and 3.8 next. His deal was 4 years 16 mill
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Seabass is still the best in the biz imo
July 16th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
His deal was 4 years 16 mill
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thanks, Bcz. I figured you would know!
July 16th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
Is there anyone NOT picking us to finish last in our division?
Analysts and talking heads spent years making fun of Al Davis, and now that he is gone we are going to take a step back according to those same fools?
fk them! First time in years that there will be accountability on this team….that will more than make up for the loss of some douche bags like Routt and Bush.
10-6!!!!!
July 16th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
Dakota Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
Is there anyone NOT picking us to finish last in our division?
Analysts and talking heads spent years making fun of Al Davis, and now that he is gone we are going to take a step back according to those same fools?
fk them! First time in years that there will be accountability on this team….that will more than make up for the loss of some douche bags like Routt and Bush.
10-6!!!!!
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10-6!! endorsed, we could have easily been 10-6 last year if it weren’t for defensive melt downs.
July 16th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
I wish Google would give us a “Bleacher Report” filter. I am sick of wading through that garbage to get to some news.
July 16th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
Scouting site Ourlads said the above about Tyvon before he was drafted.
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interesting, Tx
they project he’ll play his best in the Zone or Cover 2 – which would never fly under Al Davis
3 INT’s as a 2-year starter in college though??
usually NFL studs are blowing away college kids as competition. Perhaps he doesn’t have good ball skills?
July 16th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
10-6!!!!!
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Beyotches!
July 16th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
Id rather see the passes defended/thrown at stats.
INTs are deceptive.
July 16th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
Scouting site Ourlads said the above about Tyvon before he was drafted.
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interesting, Tx
they project he’ll play his best in the Zone or Cover 2 – which would never fly under Al Davis
3 INT’s as a 2-year starter in college though??
usually NFL studs are blowing away college kids as competition. Perhaps he doesn’t have good ball skills?
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Yeah they wrote that after his pro-day or the combine, I’d assume. I just like when they say “Good tackler. Not afraid. Will compete.” Those are the type of players RM wants imo.
July 16th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
Did that Dude just call Michael Bush a dooche bag?????
July 16th, 2012 at 12:53 pm
Yeah they wrote that after his pro-day or the combine, I’d assume.
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@Tx
I’d say that was pretty accurate. good work by them!!
they probably never would have guessed he’d be converted to SS
please dont post the pre-draft scouting report for JaWalrus or McCrohns. I dont want to yack up my lunch
July 16th, 2012 at 12:53 pm
Bears signed Forte to a 4yr deal making roughly 8 mil/yr.
July 16th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
Did that Dude just call Michael Bush a dooche bag?????
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I guess once you are no longer a Raider, they can be labeled just about whatever you want.
July 16th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 12:53 pm
Yeah they wrote that after his pro-day or the combine, I’d assume.
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@Tx
I’d say that was pretty accurate. good work by them!!
they probably never would have guessed he’d be converted to SS
please dont post the pre-draft scouting report for JaWalrus or McCrohns. I dont want to yack up my lunch
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Lol..yeah man Al saw SS in Branch right away with his size and speed. What’s cool about adding Bartell this year is that he’s about Tyvon’s size and pretty fast too.
July 16th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
Did that Dude just call Michael Bush a dooche bag?????
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@Kell
thats what happens when players refuse to play for the vet minimum or refuse to play fullback in Oakland.
in his final 6 starts of 2011, Bush proved he was not an NFL starting calibur RB. He ran out of gas
not sure why some think he was a d-bag, but Raider fans comments about former players never seem to surprise me. re-sign Johnnie Lee!
July 16th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
Schit, actually Bartell at CB is 6′1 210lbs and Branch 6′0 205lbs. Sounds like we’ll see some hitting Bartell this year also…
July 16th, 2012 at 12:59 pm
Bush could’ve taken back-up pay anywhere, which is appropriate for his skill-set, same for JC imo.
July 16th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
From Bartell*
July 16th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
So the Bears are paying Forte 32 mil/4yrs and Bush 16mil/4yrs? Guess that’s why they’re the Bears..lol
July 16th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
What’s cool about adding Bartell this year is that he’s about Tyvon’s size and pretty fast too
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@Tx
Bartell has “Raider speed” ??
Al Davis picked Fabian Washington at #23 and Stan Routt at #38 in 2005
Ron went 50th overall to St Louis.
Why did Grandpa Davis pass on him? because he’s from Detroit !?!?
July 16th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
bartell is a nice pick-up … spencer is a good mentor but about eqaul to chris johnson in coverage. EEK! so I think DVD and Chewka and conroy black will be fighitng to get snaps from him.
July 16th, 2012 at 1:03 pm
Ray Rice got his deal too.
July 16th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
conroy black my sleeper player in secondary.
July 16th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
Ray Rice deal:
5yrs/$40 mil
$25 mil gtd……..$17 mil in 1st yr
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Wasn’t that the kind of money Bush was going after?
lol
RB’s are the Rodney Dangerfield’s of the NFL
July 16th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
5 years, 40 million, 17 in year 1.. 25 in first 2 years.
Ray Rice.
July 16th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
24 mil gtd for Rice.
July 16th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
amazing these big money deals for guys like Rice & Forte, who aren’t as good as Darren McFadden!
July 16th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
Bush is a doooche.. Wouldnt play fb when we needed help. And he runs soft, teinkle toes.. Not to mention he’d rather move to chi town for the same job.
July 16th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
I think we’ll be fine at TE this year, see what these young guys have got.
Palmer on Ausberry..CBSSports
–Although the Raiders parted with starting tight end Kevin Boss and didn’t get nearly the production they had from Zach Miller, lost in free agency a year ago, quarterback Carson Palmer is expecting big things from second-year man David Ausberry.
Palmer has spent time throwing with Ausberry this offseason and thinks he’ll play a role in the new offense.
“You can run screens with him, you can line him up outside if he’s your tight end in a base personnel group, and I would love to have the matchup with him on a linebacker,” Palmer said. “He’s a great kid, works very hard and he wants it. He’s a special talent and I think once the coaching staff sees him on the field, the way he moves, there’s going to be some special things for him.”
July 16th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
Douche bag might have been a little harsh for Bush….I’ll go with over-hyped.
July 16th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
amazing these big money deals for guys like Rice & Forte, who aren’t as good as Darren McFadden!
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Agreed.
If DMC stays healthy the next 2 years, he’ll get huge money.
July 16th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
he’d rather move to chi town for the same job
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@Marks Hair
who knows what Reggie was offering, if anything ??
July 16th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
What’s cool about adding Bartell this year is that he’s about Tyvon’s size and pretty fast too
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@Tx
Bartell has “Raider speed” ??
Al Davis picked Fabian Washington at #23 and Stan Routt at #38 in 2005
Ron went 50th overall to St Louis.
Why did Grandpa Davis pass on him? because he’s from Detroit !?!?
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Maybe he wasn’t fast enough for what Al liked, but Reggie sure was quick to sign him..dude is a baller.
July 16th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
Jacque Vaughn.
July 16th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
Criner & Bergstrom to get signed this week most likely.
July 16th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
Bartell ran a 4.37 out of college, Branch was a 4.34 I think, with Bartell carrying about 5 more lbs.
July 16th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
RRS we offered him nothing. Cause he’s a dooooche.. He made it pretty obvious he didnt want to play for us..
July 16th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
Marks hair Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
RRS we offered him nothing. Cause he’s a dooooche.. He made it pretty obvious he didnt want to play for us..
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I think maybe Bush was drinking his own kool-aid last year, thinking just because he assumed the starting role for a while, he somehow proved he’s a starter.
July 16th, 2012 at 1:28 pm
Maybe he wasn’t fast enough for what Al liked. Bartell ran a 4.37 out of college
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LOL!!
good point, Tx
July 16th, 2012 at 1:30 pm
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/players.php?genpos=CB&draftyear=2005&sortby=tsxpos&order=ASC&startspot=0
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Doesn’t mean much, but this old draft board has Bartell a few spots behind Washington and a few in front of Routt, 9th of a total 133 prospects.
July 16th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 1:28 pm
Maybe he wasn’t fast enough for what Al liked. Bartell ran a 4.37 out of college
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LOL!!
good point, Tx
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Washington ran a 4.29 and Routt a 4.27, so there ya go, Ron was too slow for Al.LOL
July 16th, 2012 at 1:36 pm
Knapp = this year’s version of Bresnahan. Biggest area of concern in the area of coaching. Though argument can easily be made that having such a green DC is also concerning.
July 16th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
I am surprised that no one seems to remember how easily good teams ran the ball on us last year and how we rarely pressured the opposing QB when trying to stop a comeback.
No DB is covering anyone for five seconds and scheme means crap if you can not pressure with four.
When your leading tackler is a DB you better shore up your dline.
We need more than a scheme change to improve our defense. Tight end, running backs, linebackers and DB talent mean nothing if our dline continues to get blown off the ball.
July 16th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
Knapp = this year’s version of Bresnahan.
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Don’t forget we have A Saunders still on staff. This was a great keep for the NATION, as if the O stalls, Saunders can should will have input…
July 16th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
The Big Banana Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 1:36 pm
Knapp = this year’s version of Bresnahan. Biggest area of concern in the area of coaching. Though argument can easily be made that having such a green DC is also concerning.
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Hopefully DA will monitor these guys and help them adjust on the fly.
July 16th, 2012 at 1:41 pm
Knapp = at least has an identity….
Bresnahan = had sticks…
July 16th, 2012 at 1:43 pm
1 and only NATION
July 16th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
Lakers looking at Brandon Rush.
July 16th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
My work day is over!! Holla from the crib..peace Nation!
July 16th, 2012 at 1:48 pm
Peace.
July 16th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
Lakers looking at Brandon Rush.
???
July 16th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
If you google Lakers, it appears they are looking at EVERYONE!
Grant Hill, Jordan Hill and Jameson would be a nice trio coming off the bench.
July 16th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
Aaron Brooks agrees to deal with Kings.
July 16th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
The Point Guard of course..
July 16th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
The Oakland A’s!….Green and Gold is on fiya!……Big week in Oakland with the Al West leading Rangers and the AL East leading Yankees coming to town….. half a game back of the O’s for last WC spot and 3 back of Angels for top WC spot
July 16th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
With Cespedies back…like you told me yesterday…Bombs away! Also, he made Al player of the week!
July 16th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
You fools better listen to the B@uce!
July 16th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
Warriors have had a excellent summer as you can see Klay Thompson got wetters..BARNES is a nice smooth humper having player…Ezeli is big and can play in the paint….draymon is 6′7 but he be ballin!
A’s are hittin and pitching like a mthfka…plus with MLB’s 10 billion tv deals going down the A’s payroll over the years shall increase….pressure is mounting on Lew Wolff….the better the A’s play the more the Giants make their case for not wanting them in SJ
July 29th Napa is approaching! It’s close to Raider time and us taking our rightful place among the AFC West!
Is Oakland in the house?
YES YES YES YES YES
July 16th, 2012 at 2:24 pm
Less than a month Hwnrdr…..we soon gonna be having good tailgate grub and drank!
MNF preseason in Oakland? Oh hell yeah! Mucho fun for the B@uce and family!
July 16th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 2:24 pm
Less than a month Hwnrdr…..we soon gonna be having good tailgate grub and drank!
MNF preseason in Oakland? Oh hell yeah! Mucho fun for the B@uce and family!
Yup, can’t wait!
July 16th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
For those who have to rep the silver and black outside of the hands of Cali….be ready…be loud and proud..I know your friends and family mocking you and making every joke in the book, but dont trip! When the Nation rolls deep in the midwest, the south and east coast they shall all bow and beg to kiss your silver and black boots!
You can feel the excitement over here in the Bay Area. Everytime I see someone with Raider gear or vice versa nothing but POSITIVITY when discussing our guys. It seems Reggie has the area’s full support.
JULY PLEASE HURRY THE FK ON….WE NEED OUR FOOTBALL BACK!
July 16th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
Hwnrdr Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 2:24 pm
Less than a month Hwnrdr…..we soon gonna be having good tailgate grub and drank!
MNF preseason in Oakland? Oh hell yeah! Mucho fun for the B@uce and family!
Yup, can’t wait!
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My first Napa experience will go down in a few weeks buy no AL DAVIS
This will be our first preseason without our leader
BUT HE IS THERE IN SPIRIT
July 16th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
So is Elvis Dungvervle gonna get suspended for assault with a firearm?
July 16th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
Good afternoon Nation.
July 16th, 2012 at 2:45 pm
Elvis DumberVille lol…..awesome….please suspend this guy for half the season and let him come back in the middle and let the suffering continue lol
July 16th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
Fabian Washington before Aaron Rodgers? I went to the same JC as Rodgers. Baffling it is.
July 16th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
Apparently Dumervil showed a gun, but I haven’t heard if he did anything with it. Any dummy knows to only pull the heat if you absolutely must use it, this retard deserves a hefty suspension.
July 16th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
That’s great TX you advocate killing.
July 16th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 2:45 pm
Elvis DumberVille lol…..awesome….please suspend this guy for half the season and let him come back in the middle and let the suffering continue lol
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You know Manning and the Dungver fans are thinkin, please don’t fck up, Von!lol
July 16th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
bigsnow81 Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
That’s great TX you advocate killing.
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Read the post dude, I said if one absolutely must use the weapon, hoping most would get that it would be if ones life was in immediate danger.
July 16th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
Happiness is a warm gun.
July 16th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
I cant wait til dec 6th on thursday night vs denver….will be my first reg season game on a thursday…as a matter of fact have RAIDERS ever played on thursday in regular season in Oakland? I dont think thats the case so it should be one special night!
July 16th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
Bigsnow81 Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
Happiness is a warm gun.
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As well as seeing peyton manning carted off the Coliseum Field
July 16th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
That’s great TX you advocate killing.
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Read the post dude, I said if one absolutely must use the weapon, hoping most would get that it would be if ones life was in immediate danger.
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TxRaider is right, dudes an idiot! Unless Dumervill is a quickdraw expert, pretty stupid (See Movie Get Shorty)
Sad thing is a lot of people are packing in Florida and cannot imagine that Flashing your gun at someone does not give them provaction under stand your ground law to open up fire at Dumervil.
July 16th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
I can’t see Dumervil feeling threatened at all by some parking attendant, so looks like he got mad and waived a gun around, juvenile judgment if that’s what happened.
July 16th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
That’s great TX you advocate killing.
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Read the post dude, I said if one absolutely must use the weapon, hoping most would get that it would be if ones life was in immediate danger.
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TxRaider is right, dudes an idiot! Unless Dumervill is a quickdraw expert, pretty stupid (See Movie Get Shorty)
Sad thing is a lot of people are packing in Florida and cannot imagine that Flashing your gun at someone does not give them provaction under stand your ground law to open up fire at Dumervil.
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Exactly, flashing it for no real reason puts a person at risk and may turn the tables. Wild Wild West these days lol
July 16th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
Best bet Goodell will take note of the incident, being Dumervil’s second assault related, though the first got thrown out. DJ Williams animal pee doesn’t help his situation much either
July 16th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
Pardon me, synthetic urine lol
July 16th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
27 more days until it begins!
July 16th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
Yeah the Mountain Mules of Columbine are getting what they deserve…I’ll look forward to brooming their my little pony asses this season
July 16th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
27 more days until it begins!
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YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH gingerhead man…can i expect you at a tailgate this year rocking your fellow gingerhead brethren Carson Palmer jersey?
July 16th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
TxRaider210 Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
I can’t see Dumervil feeling threatened at all by some parking attendant, so looks like he got mad and waived a gun around, juvenile judgment if that’s what happened.
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Funny McClain shot a gun past a guys head and its a misdemeanor in Decatur Alabama.
July 16th, 2012 at 3:29 pm
Guns kill people like spoons made Rosie Odonald fat!!!
July 16th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
raiderinparadise Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
TxRaider210 Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
I can’t see Dumervil feeling threatened at all by some parking attendant, so looks like he got mad and waived a gun around, juvenile judgment if that’s what happened.
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Funny McClain shot a gun past a guys head and its a misdemeanor in Decatur Alabama.
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Yeah different laws, but I still have yet to see 55 shoot a gun or hit anyone..saw his buddy whoop some dude that kept wanting more.lol
July 16th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
“YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH gingerhead man…can i expect you at a tailgate this year rocking your fellow gingerhead brethren Carson Palmer jersey?”
So damn funny but yes I do have a Palmer jersey you know us gingers we have to stick together.
Do you know what I am saying…..
July 16th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
R8ER MIKE Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 3:29 pm
Guns kill people like spoons made Rosie Odonald fat!!!
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Fkn Hilarious!! LMAO
July 16th, 2012 at 3:54 pm
Nothing funny about how backwards the south is.
July 16th, 2012 at 3:57 pm
?? Backward??
Please explain.
link/source.???
July 16th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
A vehicle can be a more lethal weapon than a gun, all depends on user and experience.
July 16th, 2012 at 4:00 pm
Louisiana state law, if you get a DUI you must submit a urine test. If you have THC in your system you get another charge.
July 16th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
Jindal can have that law, glad I don’t live there.
July 16th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
No link needed. My observations were made by experience.
July 16th, 2012 at 4:03 pm
STATE OF UTAH .. texting while driving or on cellphone is a DUI charge. No joke, Cali might follow that law too. rumor they trying to pass it.
July 16th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
56 days, 3 hours, 10 minutes till we unleash some nasty on the SD dolts.
July 16th, 2012 at 4:05 pm
Any state that criminalizes marijuana is backwards in my opinion.
July 16th, 2012 at 4:05 pm
http://www.1800dialdui.com/CM/40WaystoBeataDUI/Louisiana-40Ways.asp
July 16th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
647
agreed with that
July 16th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
#646 we better. Palmers career stats are great against the SD chargers. That and I think our D-line will have their way and our 0-line can win the battle all night. Rivers will get his team points tho … so I’m thinking we need about 24 to win. I see a 31 20 win.
July 16th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
Is it cell phone use or texting? A lot of grey area.
July 16th, 2012 at 4:11 pm
Raiders defense should give us a slight preview in the Dallas game against Murray and Felix Jones. If our D can contain those 2 guys, that would be awesome!
July 16th, 2012 at 4:13 pm
@651
That’s the whole problem is that law has lots of grey areas, so people in power can twist any situation right back at an individual.
July 16th, 2012 at 4:16 pm
TX, I agree with your comment on a vehicle being a weapon. People are to complacent while driving.
July 16th, 2012 at 4:18 pm
@654
No kidding, I have a few friends that got hit on their motorcycles, one by a girl texting. Think she got a $500 fine, but almost killed him. crazy stuff
July 16th, 2012 at 4:19 pm
I have been to the new Cowboy’s stadium, serious stadium envy.
July 16th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
I always give bikers a lot of space.
July 16th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
Texting while driving is horrible. A lot of these girls NEVER put that damn phone down!
July 16th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
bigsnow81 Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 4:19 pm
I have been to the new Cowboy’s stadium, serious stadium envy.
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I’ll see it one day..when the Raiders lay the hurt down on em!
July 16th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
Lots of bikers ride like absolute schit too sometimes, I notice because I’ve had them for 20 yrs, but still no excuse for people to get hit at a stop sign by someone texting.
July 16th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
There is a Mal-Wart across the street. I couldn’t refuse a free ticket.
July 16th, 2012 at 4:28 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
Texting while driving is horrible. A lot of these girls NEVER put that damn phone down!
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Sometimes I just pull up next to the texter chicks, look at them, and hit the pipes to like 17k rpm and take off. Normally makes them put the phone down.lol
July 16th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
We’re all guilty of bad driving from time to time.
July 16th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
TX, that’s the sound of wasted horsepower.
July 16th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
bigsnow81 Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
TX, that’s the sound of wasted horsepower.
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Lol, nah it’s the sound of a zx6r..I only make my bike heard if there’s a dumb driver near me who hasn’t noticed I’m there.
July 16th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
Some people can drive crazy and move into a bikers lane, part of playing it safe is making sure you’re seen or heard.
July 16th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
She only packs about 105 horsepower, but only weighs 387lbs plus me.lol
July 16th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kstp8z_2OTI&feature=g-vrec
Just awesome….especially what is said at the end!
July 16th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLvM0uOHYmA&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PL349B029CAFB2977E
Ha! Even Old Man Blanda knows it!…stand down Dakota and Beecher…you not qualified
July 16th, 2012 at 4:59 pm
I was thinking you drove a hog.
July 16th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
Omne review of may positive reviews of The Dark Knight Rises:
Avoid spoilers at all costs before watching the movie!
The Dark Knight Rises (****)
Masterpiece…Simply a masterpiece!
http://www.awardscircuit.com/2012/07/16 … /#comments
July 16th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
13 days till camp.
July 16th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
what up my nation bruthas, almost time for football!!!
RAIDER FAHQIN NATION BABY!!!
July 16th, 2012 at 6:27 pm
Knapp as OC with the Falcons From 04 through 06 had Vick as QB. They went from the 14 th ranked offense to 29th.
July 16th, 2012 at 6:33 pm
In 2009 he was OC for the Seahawks, where the Offense was ranked 25th in points.
July 16th, 2012 at 6:34 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 6:27 pm
Knapp as OC with the Falcons From 04 through 06 had Vick as QB. They went from the 14 th ranked offense to 29th.
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If history repeats itself I would fully expect Dennis Allen or Reggie McKenzie to demote Knapp to Asst. OC and install Al Saunders as the new De facto OC. I personally would feel better if Saunders started as the OC right up front. But, nobody from the new leadership called and asked.
July 16th, 2012 at 6:39 pm
JB
Yeah, I have full confidence in the new regime, but I didn’t want Knapp. we’ll see.
July 16th, 2012 at 6:39 pm
JB Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 6:34 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 6:27 pm
Knapp as OC with the Falcons From 04 through 06 had Vick as QB. They went from the 14 th ranked offense to 29th.
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If history repeats itself I would fully expect Dennis Allen or Reggie McKenzie to demote Knapp to Asst. OC and install Al Saunders as the new De facto OC. I personally would feel better if Saunders started as the OC right up front. But, nobody from the new leadership called and asked.
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This is Knapp’s last shot so he has to come through…..yeah JB logical post here. I’ve always seen Knapp as a qb coach. I’m sure he can teach the fundamentals well but weekly gameplans and game time adjustments from him I’ve never been impressed with
Saunders I think at OC with Knapp as QB coach would serve Palmer the best….but last chances sometimes bring best outta people
July 16th, 2012 at 6:40 pm
SouthTexasRaider Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
what up my nation bruthas, almost time for football!!!
RAIDER FAHQIN NATION BABY!!!
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STR…the man from the Lone Star state giving Cowboys,Oilers and Texans fans hell forever!!!!!!!
July 16th, 2012 at 6:42 pm
Kell……..full confidence?….wooo i have guarded optimism and thats becuz I hate the zbs and wco offense when I feel our parts are geared for power blocking and more vertical type of attack…but hey im not GM or coach
July 16th, 2012 at 6:44 pm
Now I know much has been made about this new multiple front defense….but honestly guys…who are our DE’s who will make life tough on Off Tackles?
As I’ve said many times…I think Shaughnessy is LDE and Houston is a UT
July 16th, 2012 at 6:46 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 6:39 pm
JB Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 6:34 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 6:27 pm
Knapp as OC with the Falcons From 04 through 06 had Vick as QB. They went from the 14 th ranked offense to 29th.
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If history repeats itself I would fully expect Dennis Allen or Reggie McKenzie to demote Knapp to Asst. OC and install Al Saunders as the new De facto OC. I personally would feel better if Saunders started as the OC right up front. But, nobody from the new leadership called and asked.
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This is Knapp’s last shot so he has to come through…..yeah JB logical post here. I’ve always seen Knapp as a qb coach. I’m sure he can teach the fundamentals well but weekly gameplans and game time adjustments from him I’ve never been impressed with
Saunders I think at OC with Knapp as QB coach would serve Palmer the best….but last chances sometimes bring best outta people
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Let’s hope so. We are all there for the same reason and that’s to win.
We should have a dynamite top 5 offense this year. At least that’s what it looks like on paper. I believe the only things that can hold us back are poor play calling and unexpected injuries to key personnel. We had more than our share of that last season. This season is ours for the taking IMO.
July 16th, 2012 at 6:47 pm
I’m not a fan of the Wco either.
July 16th, 2012 at 6:50 pm
WEll JB…Napa is almost here…and those tough summer days of guys fighting for roster spots and starting jobs brings those men closer to a common goal
Yes I hope Napa and preseason nets us good solid looks at our guys without injury
It will be hard pressed to not see explosive plays with these skill position players but we need a middle of the road defense to make this a season where we break the playoff drought
Week 1 vs SD will tell us alot about our upcoming campaign…..win that and the doors are open
July 16th, 2012 at 6:53 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 6:47 pm
I’m not a fan of the Wco either.
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Well Knapp’s version doesnt seem to challenge enough for me…i appreciate the detail to the run game but our passing game needs to suit carson’s strengths…we need deep outs, post corner routes as well as deep ins and comeback routes that arent the 5 yd variety.
Pointless to waste DHB,Dmoore and Ford’s speed witgh dinking and dunking…..Criner and the TEs can do the underneath stuff
July 16th, 2012 at 6:54 pm
:uǝǝᴚƃᴚɯ: ʎɐpuoW ʍoןs ɐ ʇɐɥM
July 16th, 2012 at 6:57 pm
I seriously hope now that Branch has a long term deal we dont think we can sign Benson
I think he a loser plus the 3 gm suspension aint cool. One more time in trouble im sure he gets a year ban….nah we cant take that chance
DMAC hopefully can play 14 games this season and i believe goodson and jones are good enough to still keep defenses honest….reece can play the role of big back…he is an ultimate utility player
Battle with Tonga and Schmitt outta be interesting….we all know i like tonga but if schmitt is better then im fine with it…as long as we have a hammerhead lead blocker for our RBs
July 16th, 2012 at 6:59 pm
Mr Green Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 6:54 pm
:uǝǝᴚƃᴚɯ: ʎɐpuoW ʍoןs ɐ ʇɐɥM
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Greenthumb….its middle of july…of course this monday will be rather slow…dont worry next month mondays will be worth your while
July 16th, 2012 at 6:59 pm
I’d prefer we focus on a 3-4 defense this year. We need to carve out a NT, maybe Bilukidi or Ivey, from the roster but then we’ve got plenty of talent at DE with ShoNasty, Seymour, Bryant, Tollefson, Crawford or Houston. At LB we could look at Wheeler at SSLB and Burris at WSLB pairing up with Curry & McClain at ILB. Branch & Huff at safety and Bartell and Chekwa at CB. Should make for an interesting Defense especially now that Bresnahan is gone. I have high hopes for Tarver at DC.
July 16th, 2012 at 6:59 pm
anyways yall take care…JUST WIN………….CODE BLACK 2012
July 16th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
TxRaider210, With 40 llamas including moms and babies, and chickens, guinea fowl, small dogs, cats, and what not, I often hear odd noises at night while smoking that last one and usually check it out with a regular flashlight, or sometimes just moonlight. My best flashlight is attached to a modest 20 gauge shotgun readily available. When I decide for whatever reason to grab the Remington 870 and scan the grounds with that, it is loaded and I am assuming I’m going to use it. Almost never do, but have to think I might. A couple possums and raccoons died over last five years, but overall they are still ahead(way ahead) in body count totals. Anyway, to back up your point, it’s not in my hands without intent to use it, and even so won’t be used unless necessary. And now returning to the NFL from the NRA hopefully. Who am I kidding, this is the PM crew.
July 16th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
Remember there are differing versions of the West Coast Offense.
Before “hating” on it (and al its aspects), consider the folowing excerpt from an article in the Cleveand Plain Dealer from 2010.
“Five years ago, the Packers hired a young offensive-minded coach in Mike McCarthy, who installed his version of the West Coast offense. Sunday they’re playing the quarterback-destroyer Steelers for the NFL championship.
The Packers are in the Super Bowl for the first time since another West Coast offense-disciple took the cold-hardened team to two Super Bowls and one championship. That was Mike Holmgren.
And now as president of the Browns, Holmgren is trying to replicate what he did in Green Bay in the mid-1990s and what McCarthy currently is doing. He hired Pat Shurmur, an untested, West Coast-offensive coach to inject some life in the Browns and try to loosen Pittsburgh’s powerful vise grip on the AFC North.”
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We need to define what Knapp’s “version” wi entail. I don’t think we’ll know for sure until we see it implemented.
July 16th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
He11, if anybody cares, varmints only got fowl, no crias (baby llamas). That would be coyotes or stray dogs and mama llamas will usually kill them first, or mountain lions,and I’d be real unlikely to catch one of them in the act, and even they have no surety of surviving the attack.
July 16th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
This from a recent article in Bleacher Report in regard to Jordy Nelson of GB and how he benefits from the “McCarthy WCO”:
“In addition to his physical and mental attributes, Nelson also benefits greatly from playing for the Green Bay Packers. The Packers’ West Coast offensive system focuses primarily on moving the chains via short passes with receivers gaining yards after the catch. After drawing the defense in to cover the underneath routes, the offense exploits the defense via the deep routes. The West Coast system is a perfect fit for Nelson as he runs crisp routes and has the speed to get open underneath. By playing in this offensive system that is so pass oriented, Nelson is given plenty of opportunity to accumulate the stats necessary for him to reach an elite level.”
July 16th, 2012 at 7:27 pm
Hell Yeah!!!
visited San Antonios’ Fiesta Texas this weekend sporting my raider gear and to no surprise i was yelled at by 4 different people shouting “RAIDER NATION BABY!”
RAIDER NATION IS EVERYWHERE!
July 16th, 2012 at 7:28 pm
So the McCarthy WCO is a “pass oriented” version of the WCO.
If (as suggested) the “Knapp WCO” is primarily a “run oriented” WCO…I have to admit I don’t know what that’s supposed to look like.
Is it supposed to look like Houston 2011?
I guess there’s worse out there.
July 16th, 2012 at 7:35 pm
Zzzzzzzzz
July 16th, 2012 at 7:38 pm
“The Packers’ West Coast offensive system focuses primarily on moving the chains via short passes with receivers gaining yards after the catch. After drawing the defense in to cover the underneath routes, the offense exploits the defense via the deep routes.”
THAT is the kind of version of the WCO I would like to see with the Raiders. Number 1…it’s more fun and 2….I think it fits better with talent we have and better utilizes the talents of Carson Palmer.
You can’t have Carson Palmer as your QB and not take the deep strike.
If not…then trade him and bring in Caleb Hanie….or whatever.
July 16th, 2012 at 7:39 pm
697.MistaBrown Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 7:35 pm
Zzzzzzzzz
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Awww c’mon man.
July 16th, 2012 at 7:45 pm
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July 16th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
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July 16th, 2012 at 8:06 pm
July 16, 2012, 6:00 PMJuly 16: 0bama Gains Ground From Ohio Poll |
A series of surveys in swing states from the firm Purple Strategies shows relatively little change in the race since its last set of polls five weeks ago. But there is an exception in Ohio, where the poll now shows President 0bama ahead of Mitt Romney by three points — rather than behind by three, as he was in the firm’s survey last month.
No one poll should be overinterpreted, but Purple Strategies had been one of the few firms to show Mr. Romney with a lead in Ohio, making this bad news for him. Mr. 0bama’s chances of winning the Electoral College are now listed at 68.7 percent by the forecast model, up from 67.0 percent on Saturday.
July 16th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
579.RaiderRockstar Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
amazing these big money deals for guys like Rice & Forte, who aren’t as good as Darren McFadden!
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McFadden IS better……when he’s playing.
It’s not his fault neccessarily but it WILL affect his value on the market when it comes time for him to seek the really big bucks.
If he stays healthy this year then he’ll have some leverage
July 16th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
July 16, 2012, 6:00 PMJuly 16: 0bama Gains Ground From Ohio Poll |
A series of surveys in swing states from the firm Purple Strategies shows relatively little change in the race since its last set of polls five weeks ago. But there is an exception in Ohio, where the poll now shows President 0bama ahead of Mitt Romney by three points — rather than behind by three, as he was in the firm’s survey last month.
No one poll should be overinterpreted, but Purple Strategies had been one of the few firms to show Mr. Romney with a lead in Ohio, making this bad news for him. Mr. 0bama’s chances of winning the Electoral College are now listed at 68.7 percent by the forecast model, up from 67.0 percent on Saturday.
July 16th, 2012 at 8:12 pm
By all accounts Knapp wants to mimic the Houston offense from the last few years.
We play the Texans every year, and I don’t remember them as a dink and dunk, QB bootlegging team.
I did see Kevin Walter go deep down the middle on Huff for like 50 yards last year, them go down the field for a ton of yards right before the 10 on 11 INT, saw Schaub waggle out a little on the throwback to the TE for the TD.
When he coached here, did we dink and dunk a lot and bootleg our QB’s? Not really from what I remember.
I think all this concern is a bunch of overkill. I am more worried about Tarver learning on the job the first month of the season to be honest.
July 16th, 2012 at 8:16 pm
Houston was 9th in the league in 40 yard passing plays last year, 17th in 20 yard plays.
2010 they were 14th of 40+ plays, and 5th in the league in 20+ plays.
Not seeing the cause for concern on running some dink and dunk scheme.
July 16th, 2012 at 8:18 pm
They do throw, and same when Knapp was here last time, toss a lot of balls to the FB, RB and TE.
But don’t see much of an issue there for us, FB and RB are play-makers for us.
July 16th, 2012 at 8:18 pm
I’m sick of hearing the term “West Coast Offense” applied to almost every single attack in the NFL.
Look: as “they” say, there are a million ways to skin a cat…and there are many concepts to moving the football….
The Green Bay Packers are not running the West Coast Offense. They might run a few of it’s concepts but they do not run the system that was apparently developed and perfected by Bill Walsh….which is another untruth…..no one truly invented any of the concepts singularly and of themselves….all football schemes we see are a Hodge Podge concepts put together from years through the evolution of the sport….when one man tried to take credit for them he is simply feeding his own ego….and is lying to himself.
I am not trying to take anything away from the great Bill Walsh….who is and will forever be a genius…just saying he gets too much credit for his development of an Offense that was partly built by his predecessors.
The Packers run a variety of concepts to move the football. They have a great attack, but it is not the west coast offense.
The reason for the Packers success is the ability of #12 to manipulate defenses because he knows their rules and can dictate to the defense because of the adaptability of their scheme (Call it what you want) and the communication he has with his WR’s/TE. Make no mistake, their scheme is very effective….but it isn’t the scheme that makes it go…it’s #12. Mike McCarthy himself might say he is running the West Coast Offense…but he isn’t….
Jordy Nelson is a big strong quality player who is lucky enough to have a QB who recognizes when to get him the football. I am pretty sure Nelson did lead the league in yards after the catch…..which…is a credit to him.
The Packers call more concepts than any team in the league. That is to say that they do not usually call a single play….but instead…call an idea and let #12 decide what to do….
As far as Knapp goes, he doesn’t run the West Coast system either…he only runs certain concepts in it. In fact, the Knapp we knew in Oakland a few years ago was very different than the Knapp we will see this year. The Raiders did not utilize the 2 TE look very often when Jamarcus was here….instead…we only used one the majority of the time.
The newer scheme, which Knapp built with his staff and Gary Kubiak at Houston, has many more 2 TE concepts designed to attack either direction and out man the defense at the point of attack.
Houston last season lead the league in Time of Possession. This was based on a number of factors. The number of injuries at the QB position affected the play calling. The fact that the Texans had 3 quality backs being another. Their #1 WR was hurt 1/3 of the year also. But it is all predicated on the fact that the Texans had 3 useful H Back TE’s to use in their Offensive Play Calling.
This is not Knapp’s version of the West Coast. Many of the same terms may be used, but the attack is in no way similar to the True West Coast Offense. Hopefully Coach Knapp will engage his coaching staff and run some even newer concepts this season and continue to evolve in his coaching. I believe he has shown the ability to change in his career and look forward to what he has in store this season.
In season’s past…he has been a play it safe play caller. He has shown himself to be the type who will not make a call which might set himself up to be the one responsible for a lack of success. He usually only takes risks when he has to…although this changed a bit since his stay in Houston…..which..make be due to Coach Kubiak. I hope Knapp continues to take necessary risks in his play calling, which, as I’ve said before….should really just be to give Carson Palmer a concept…and then let Palmer decide what to do next…
As I said, there are many ways to move the football. Calling 75% of them the West Coast Offense is simply somebody trying to sound like they know what they’re talking about when they really don’t……
Gentlemen, as you were.
July 16th, 2012 at 8:19 pm
DJ
That’s one of the exciting things about this season. Nobody knows for sure what we’re going to get.
ZBS looks to be a done deal.
Some variation of the WCO is going to happen.
But….with Saunders still in the picture it could get interesting.
I’ve read good things and bad things about Knapp. I don’t have a clue what he will try and pull off. Hopefully he includes Palmers skill set in his offense.
Defense….I don’t think anyone really knows what’s going happen. All speculation.
July 16th, 2012 at 8:22 pm
JFB,
I share your concern about Tarver and the D.
Until I actually see with my own eyes, a defense that can stop some people…i’ll be skeptical.
It’s one of the reasons i’m looking forward to THIS preseason more so than others.
-It’s the official start of the post Al Davis era.
-What we saw last yr. as far as holes in the team…
were exposed right from the first snap in the first preseason game. Defense couldn’t stop the run…or pass and getting blown out in the 2nd half of those games showed a lack of depth imo.
-It’ll be cool to see this team finally take the field in a somewhat competitive atmosphere…seeing DA stalk the sideline…Tarver yell at the defense and watch Terrell Pryor try and show us he belongs.
Those are a few of the things i’m looking forward to.
July 16th, 2012 at 8:25 pm
Ｃｏｄｅ Ｒａｉｄａｈ !
July 16th, 2012 at 8:31 pm
Knapp was the QB coach in Houston.
July 16th, 2012 at 8:32 pm
Raidersforlife,
Exactly. It’s part of the fun. We just don’t really know.
I have always come into the season thinking I have some idea about the team. This yr.? I have no clue….but….i’m optimistic; if nothing else than for optimisms sake.
July 16th, 2012 at 8:39 pm
Backstage, That was kind of the point of my copy and pasting that stuff; to show that the whole WCO is a term that is attributed to so many team offenses now.
If someone says they don’t like the WCO the next question is “which version”?
It’s become almost a blanket term used to describe almost any offense in the league and as you noted has been used inappropriately if someone implies that it’s the “Bill Walsh WCO” that alot of these teams are using.
July 16th, 2012 at 8:46 pm
I agree Johnny.
Completely.
July 16th, 2012 at 8:50 pm
Knapp was the QB coach in Houston.
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Exactly.
Just like Bellicheck was the LB coach under Parcells.
These staffs around the league are consisted of guys who think exactly alike on their side of the ball.
July 16th, 2012 at 8:53 pm
Put it this way, I don’t like dinky& dunk offenses.
July 16th, 2012 at 8:55 pm
I would like it if we had a staff who disagree in meetings on Monday that comes to a consensus on Tuesday and develops a plan on Wednesday that wins on Sunday!
“If everyone is thinking alike, then somebody isn’t thinking.”
-George S. Patton-
July 16th, 2012 at 8:55 pm
Koolkell, I completely agree…..
July 16th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
Although agreeing is not something I usually like to do!
July 16th, 2012 at 9:00 pm
I dont like the dink and dunk offense either, but I like dunkin donuts.
July 16th, 2012 at 9:03 pm
I don’t like that “dink and dunk” stuff either. If it resulted in wins than I would change my mind but it doesn’t seem to be something that would play to ur strengths. If you’re dinking and dunking in order to draw the D in so you can exploit the intermediate and deep routes than i’m personally all for it.
Whatever Knapp has cooking, Palmer (at least publicly) seems to really like it.
July 16th, 2012 at 9:04 pm
backstageatapuppetshow Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 8:55 pm
I would like it if we had a staff who disagree in meetings on Monday that comes to a consensus on Tuesday and develops a plan on Wednesday that wins on Sunday!
“If everyone is thinking alike, then somebody isn’t thinking.”
-George S. Patton-
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Patton = Greatest US General
DA = Young General Patton
July 16th, 2012 at 9:05 pm
Would you expect Carson to disagree?
That isn’t his job….it’s mine.
July 16th, 2012 at 9:08 pm
Great Speech
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwoXJernqCc&feature=related
July 16th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
Wrong language! LMOL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9b5g1avyCSA&feature=related
July 16th, 2012 at 9:11 pm
A Saumders is still on staff. Although he is not OCO, I would imagine we will utilize him in some capacity.
Would not surprise me if we implement some of his idea’s regarding offense.
The idea for the offense is to use our weopons to create mis matches and utilize the talents of the skill players.
Only concern I have on the O side of the ball, is if DMAC is going to play all 16.
July 16th, 2012 at 9:11 pm
Gruden won here with the dink & dunk, but I didn’t like it.
July 16th, 2012 at 9:13 pm
Al Saunders is a genius….
Bet your ass he will be listened to.
July 16th, 2012 at 9:14 pm
I’ll bet Knapp listens to Saunders as often as he has the opportunity to…
July 16th, 2012 at 9:15 pm
It was cool when Garner would run down the middle of the field on a short “dinker”…or was it a “dunker”?
Yeah. Not the most exciting offensive show.
July 16th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
Coach Saunders seems to have a calming affect about him. I think he will work very well with Carson this season.
He is truly a great coach who doesn’t have the need to see his name associated with an important albeit “unimportant” title.
He knows he commands respect and loves the sport.
July 16th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
backstageatapuppetshow Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 9:08 pm
Great Speech
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwoXJernqCc&feature=related
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Truth….
If we had of listen to Patoon, Russia would be a US suburb.
July 16th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
Backstage, Have u given your take in regard to wins and losses for the beloved this yr.? I know you watch a ton of game tape.
July 16th, 2012 at 9:20 pm
backstageatapuppetshow Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
Coach Saunders seems to have a calming affect about him. I think he will work very well with Carson this season.
He is truly a great coach who doesn’t have the need to see his name associated with an important albeit “unimportant” title.
He knows he commands respect and loves the sport.
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Truth…
A lot of the Semi’s have seem to forgotten that he is still around. Him influincing Knapp is going to be huge, imo…
July 16th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
We will be 1-0.
That is the start and finish of my predictions for this team.
July 16th, 2012 at 9:25 pm
Anyway back to the shadows….NATION have a great night.
RAIDER NATION
July 16th, 2012 at 9:25 pm
Thec Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
backstageatapuppetshow Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 9:08 pm
Great Speech
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwoXJernqCc&feature=related
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Truth….
If we had of listen to Patoon, Russia would be a US suburb.
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Please elaborate.
July 16th, 2012 at 9:31 pm
Problem with the dink and dunk is that it relies too heavily on mistake-free football. Mistakes are always killer, but more so in a dink and dunk offense as you used up 10 friggin minutes to drive down the field only to cough it up. A quick score or 2 by the opponent and you’re out of the game.
July 16th, 2012 at 9:35 pm
So u have us beating SD that first game.
Huge one right from the get-go.
July 16th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
Dink and dunk Offenses are designed to take the responsibility off the play caller who is not trying to necessarily win a game but is more about making sure he doesn’t lose it.
He will only cut it loose when his team is down 2 scores with less than 10:00 to go in the game…
This way, the OC….who truly wants to be a head coach……can alleviate himself of taking ANY responsibility while still have a chance of winning games and THEN taking responsibility…
July 16th, 2012 at 9:39 pm
The problem with San Diego is the addition of the new TE. They now have 3 quality TE’s who can do everything…
This creates problems….
July 16th, 2012 at 9:40 pm
I know Patton put a call into “Ike” saying he had enough able bodied troops in Eastern Germany to take out the “Big Bear” if Eisenhower wished.
Patton didn’t wanna stop apparently.
Russia was depleted and most of their troops were displaced and would’ve had to play catch up to the 3rd Army as Patton rolled deep into the Soviet interior..gaining strength as he went.
July 16th, 2012 at 9:40 pm
But problems can have solutions…
Hopefully with all the talent at TE….Norv Turner will forget that just spreading us out and slinging the ball around is his best option….
July 16th, 2012 at 9:41 pm
Yep…Patton knew we would have to fight em eventually….figured…while I’m here….let me take care of it!
July 16th, 2012 at 9:42 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 9:31 pm
Problem with the dink and dunk is that it relies too heavily on mistake-free football. Mistakes are always killer, but more so in a dink and dunk offense as you used up 10 friggin minutes to drive down the field only to cough it up. A quick score or 2 by the opponent and you’re out of the game.
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Exactly!
July 16th, 2012 at 9:43 pm
Look at what Antonio Gates has to say regarding his new corp of TE’s…
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82a917ef/article/antonio-gates-bullish-on-san-diego-chargers-tight-ends-
July 16th, 2012 at 9:43 pm
I really think we will need to get off to a 2-0 start.
July 16th, 2012 at 9:45 pm
Patton would’ve targeted the Caucusus oil fields and Stalingrad, Moscow and other major cities would’ve been a cake walk.
Key moment in history that could have been seized if U.S would’ve decided to go that route.
On the other hand, the nation was tired of war and wanted their boys back home. Mission was accomplished and besides Russia was our ally at the time of course.
July 16th, 2012 at 9:47 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 9:43 pm
I really think we will need to get off to a 2-0 start.
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Have to be 1-0 first.
July 16th, 2012 at 9:48 pm
The guy who really mind f’d the Russians was Bobby Fischer…
Fischer lost his first 2 matches against Spasskey on purpose….played possum….and proceeded to wreck shop!
July 16th, 2012 at 9:55 pm
When you are so good at your craft that you can choose when and if you want to lose you can truly toy with your opponent…
With the whole world watching…Fischer played Chess with us all!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUI2JoxWNeA
July 16th, 2012 at 9:58 pm
Fischer was never playing Chess against an opponent..he was playing against himself….which later lead to problems in his personal life…but the man was truly the best!
Anyway….back to the Chargers….
I don’t even think I know who we play in week 2…Miami perhaps?….anyhow….all our guys should be thinking about is San Diego!
July 16th, 2012 at 10:04 pm
I’ll have to prepare myself mentally and emotionally for SD game.
I wish I could be more even keeled when it comes to those games.
July 16th, 2012 at 10:10 pm
If both teams play well. We win
If both teams play poorly. We win
If we play well and they do not, We win
If we do not play well and they do, We lose
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Basically, it’s up to us…
July 16th, 2012 at 11:06 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 16th, 2012 at 8:53 pm
Put it this way, I don’t like dinky& dunk offenses.
/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// KooKoo finally came around to BIG ALS Vertical Offensive Philosophy. You never are too old, are you?
July 17th, 2012 at 12:20 am
Nice evening of Raider talk my friends! A good read without scrolling thru tons of trolls. Its what, 4 weeks tonite until the Cowboys? GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CODE BLACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 17th, 2012 at 12:41 am
Carson Palmer is a bum! 6 interceptions in 90 minutes!
First three Int’s, he had been a Raider almost a week! But enough excuses; how do we explain THREE more Int’s after a whole bye week? Meaning, he had been on the team for almost three weeks and threw six 6 six interceptions. That’s inexcusable, the good QB’s don’t report to training camp until week three of pre-season because they don’t need more than three weeks to to get in sync with coaches, players, and schemes and such.
July 17th, 2012 at 4:43 am
I don’t look at the offensive philosophy of an offense as whether I “like it” or not.
I look at how many points they score.
How they go about doing is it up to them.
How could you not like the Gruden offense here? It was our best offense in 20 years for crying out loud!!!!
If you didn’t like the Gruden offense because of some inner philosophy you subscribe to, then you are one of those people that would rather be right on the blog over watching the Raiders win.
Sorry, some good posters talked about this last night, but I’m calling you out.
Just Win Baby was what I was once told, but I guess that takes a back-seat to playing pretty football.
SMH
July 17th, 2012 at 4:54 am
Gregg Knapp has called plays in 5 playoff games, and in 2 of those his team put up huge points.
2002 49ers hung up 39 points, and his 2004 Falcons scored 47 points in a playoff game.
Not sure how pretty it is was, or if he didn’t “cut it loose” until 10 minutes were left, and if it helped him “take off the responsibility” of his play-calling, but it was damn effective.
July 17th, 2012 at 4:55 am
Hey Los Mal …
Lighten up already! Carson Palmer was out of football for almost a year, and was hampered by that SOB Mike Brown as well as the fact that we went through the whole lockout thing and then, the Raiders had the unexpected injury to Soup. Bye or no bye, it takes awhile to get up-to-speed on everything. CP3 showed his skills later in the season – I am confident that with a full training camp, a healthy Dmc, a no-nonsense GM, a new system in place and a group of good, young receivers and O-Line, we’ll be okay this year. Quit your crying about last year, baby!
July 17th, 2012 at 4:56 am
I don’t think any particular offensive philosophy is the “right” or “correct” one. You can win with any philosophy or hybrid of offensive theory that is out there.
What makes a philosophy work is having star playmakers. Those types are few and far between, but they stand out from the others. A good team capable of vying for the playoffs has about 5 of them on both sides of the ball. A championship caliber roster has up to maybe 10 of them. There are 4 or 5 teams like this. The other 43-48 players are interchangeable and can be easily replaced on the open market.
Overall we lack those 10 unreplaceable studs to compete for a super bowl. We have a few, probably enough to compete for the playoffs, but Reggie has to work on getting the necessary talent to take it to the next level.
July 17th, 2012 at 5:03 am
KoolKell rags on Al Davis for not being progressive philosophy wise, for losing too many games and being too stringent in assembling his staff to play AD type of football.
Then when Al gets extremely cutting edge and progressive with Gruden, we win a bunch of games, and Al loosens his deathgrip on the Raiders philosophy, what’s Kool’s take on it?
“I didn’t like it”.
LMAO
July 17th, 2012 at 5:08 am
I remain skeptical of Greg Knapp, mainly because he demoted to QB coach from his previous stint as OC. Why is he suddenly he get credit for Houston’s offensive success? He wasn’t the OC there. He had a rough couple of stints in his last 2 tries as OC with the Raiders and Seahawks. What has he learned from his days coaching QB’s that will put this offense over the top from the high scoring offense of last year?
Greg Knapp feels a lot like the hiring of Chuck Bresnahan last year. A recycled old, known face. I have no interest in being right about him, I hope he does well. Just not feeling this hire.
July 17th, 2012 at 5:21 am
Why is he suddenly he get credit for Houston’s offensive success?
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Because he is the QB coach, and the QB’s played damn well, including a rookie 6th round pick last season.
July 17th, 2012 at 5:29 am
Yes, but as a QB coach, he has limitations on how he can effect the gameplan. He did a good job preparing the backup QB to game manage them into the playoffs on the strength of a strong defense and good run game. But the mediocre QB eventually exposed them in the playoffs. It’s not Knapp’s fault, he did what he could. But this offense is already high powered, and doesn’t need to have training wheels put on.
As long as Knapp lets Carson Palmer turn it loose, I can’t complain. The dink and dunk conservative offense that was discussed ad nauseum last night is not a look that favors this offense.
July 17th, 2012 at 5:35 am
The dink and dunk conservative offense that was discussed ad nauseum last night is not a look that favors this offense.
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Not trying to be a jerk here, but how do you know?
I will trust that whatever Knapp and Saunders come up with, is of NFL quality, and will rely on our guys to make plays within the offense.
I don’t see how doing dink and dink things like getting the FB (Reece) more involved, utilizing the RB out of the backfield more, and getting the ball in space to DHB and Ford in a position for great YAC opportunities is anything but a positive.
July 17th, 2012 at 5:42 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
A better day…of course, not Monday!
July 17th, 2012 at 5:44 am
It’s not that I have a problem with the “style” of the dink and dunk game. It just doesn’t work well in today’s game.
The NFL is now a passing league. All you need is a franchise QB with a cannon arm who can throw for 5000 yards and you have a really good chance to compete for a super bowl.
How does this tie-in to the dink and dunk?
The dink and dunk relies on grinding clock, shortening the game, double digit play drives. Over the course of a drive, any number of things could go wrong that stall it out and create a punt or maybe a FG opportunity. You limit your number of offensive touches and limit your overall scoring as well. It’s not an offense designed to get the quick strike and put points on the board in bunches.
Because of that, you expose the defense to have to protect tenuous leads going into the 4th quarter. The game is shortened to a one possession game late and it’s a coin flip who eventually makes a play and wins the game. 50/50 shot and gut wrenching wins/losses.
Now conversely, the deep strike high ammo passing game of the contenders we see today score quickly and put the pressure on the other team to make mistakes trying to come back. A team that can get up double digits going into the 4th quarter can also survive mistakes and respond to close out games. You stack odds and chance in your favor.
It’s why teams like the 49ers and Ravens were THIS close, but no cigar. They just can’t distance themselves offensively from many teams.
July 17th, 2012 at 5:48 am
The dink and dunk relies on grinding clock, shortening the game, double digit play drives.
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Sounds like the perfect recipe to hide a historically horrendous defense like the one we trotted out last year.
Why are we in such a hurry to turn things over to Rolando McClain?
July 17th, 2012 at 5:51 am
Tie game, 8 minutes to go, do we want to go on a clock-consuming 7:30 minute drive to kick a chip-shot game-winning FG, or score a TD and turn the ball back over to the other team with 3 minutes to go?
I’ll take the FG for the win.
July 17th, 2012 at 5:53 am
Good Mornin’ Nation! Now that #33 is safely tucked away, I wonder how things may (or may not) progress with Cedric Benson.
July 17th, 2012 at 5:54 am
The only thing is the dink and dunk relies on a pretty effective defense. It’s a staple of teams who lack franchise QB’s. Dink and dunk and steallar defenses. If you don’t have a stellar defense, then you are a team a lot like Cleveland. Easily scored upon, and the dink and dunk becomes wild desparation. Asking offensive role players to pull out the impossible.
The defense is another matter entirely. If we lack a good defense, or it is the same as last year, we aren’t making any noise this year regardless.
But to your point, the dink and dunk doesn’t mask defensive weakness. It can only work playing off defensive strength. And it can only get you so far. If making the playoffs is considered a “successful season” and bowing out is considered ok, then go ahead and try that system. Just need to know what to expect.
July 17th, 2012 at 5:54 am
If the Raiders offense stalls this year, it will be for the same reasons as years past.
QB gets banged up and turns it over too much, killer penalties from the RT spot, spotty pass-protection up the gut, D-Mac hurt.
Whether Moore is running 18 yard patterns or 8 yard patterns will have little to do with it.
July 17th, 2012 at 5:55 am
Tie game, 8 minutes to go, do we want to go on a clock-consuming 7:30 minute drive to kick a chip-shot game-winning FG, or score a TD and turn the ball back over to the other team with 3 minutes to go?
I’ll take the FG for the win.
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Nice story. Now think about us getting to the opponents 30 yard line. Yellow flag, “holding, number 69 offense, still 3rd down!
I don’t know about you, but I don’t want to stockpile rolaids this year.
July 17th, 2012 at 5:59 am
Whether Moore is running 18 yard patterns or 8 yard patterns will have little to do with it.
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Not to be a jerk and argue with you. All due respect, but if we can get Moore and other WR’s involved deep, CP3’s YPA goes up and that’s usually a stat that shows up on winning teams. It’s a telling indicator at least. Teams ballsy enough to attack the defense open up the entire field and on at least a few plays the defense will make mistakes such as PI or holding, and the ball will be setup inside the one yard line.
The 11 play drive relies on near flawless execution and that’s tough to do consistently. It’s much easier to have 4 and 5 play drives that hit or miss, consistently that is.
July 17th, 2012 at 6:00 am
But to your point, the dink and dunk doesn’t mask defensive weakness. It can only work playing off defensive strength.
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We are going to have to agree to disagree on this one.
If your defense is awful, or the opposing teams offense is great, you want to control the clock, limit possessions and never let the other team get in a rhythm.
But, I don’t think we are going to be like a Cleveland (LOL at that one) offense. We will push the ball down the field, and utilize our playmakers.
Will we see more ZBS (we have been a ZBS/hybrid blocking team for years now), more crossing patterns, more passes to our talented backfield? Will we see Palmer move the pocket a little on play-action and misdirection?
Yup, and I don’t think it will be a bad thing.
I will take on any action that we will score more points in 2012 then we did in 2011.
July 17th, 2012 at 6:05 am
YPA goes up and that’s usually a stat that shows up on winning teams.
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Houston Texans, 5th in the league in YPA last year, tied with the Raiders.
With a rookie QB getting half the starts.
2010, also 5th in the league for YPA.
Raiders had a worse YPA in 2010 then 2011 but scored 50 more points that year.
Offensive efficiency is key. Long, successful drives chew up clock, tire the defense, keep you in rhythm and with Uncle Mo on your side.
July 17th, 2012 at 6:09 am
If your defense is awful, or the opposing teams offense is great, you want to control the clock, limit possessions and never let the other team get in a rhythm.
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But if as you say your defense is awful, how are you going to limit the other team from trading punches with you blow for blow? Admittedly, you give your team the opportunity to get lucky and have possession late in the game when the game is close. But that relies on little to no error on your offense as well, right? I just think that philosophy cuts the margin of error to close.
We can agree to disagree I guess. I think we have smorgasboard of talent on the offensive side and we need to open it up like last year with creative playcalling and deep strikes. It may lead to shorter drives and less rest for the defense, but those are the gambles you have to take with a suspect defense. If you get out ahead early, you put the defense at a huge advantage to pin their ears back and maul the QB.
July 17th, 2012 at 6:09 am
Good Morning Nation! Dumervil and his buddy apparently got road rage the other day and felt the need to waive a gun at a female driver…what a tough guy Elvis is eh?
July 17th, 2012 at 6:11 am
And as far as Knapp only being the QB coach in Houston, didn’t we bring in Houston’s backup QB last year (Leinart) EXPRESSLY because he knew the offense? Even down to the terminology and has been credited for helping Palmer and Pryor with the installment of it?
Come on people!!!! We will have the same foundation as the Houston offense, with Knapp and Saunders in charge of tinkering with it to best utilize our personnel.
July 17th, 2012 at 6:13 am
Getting one stop out of 7 drives makes a bigger impact than 1 stop out of 8.
That’s all I’m saying. If you control the clock, and the key is obviously to score points on top of it, then that one sack-fumble on defense has more impact on the game.
July 17th, 2012 at 6:13 am
Dumervil waiving a weapon at a woman, Dez Bryant pushing his mom, send these douche bags to play in Canada!
July 17th, 2012 at 6:15 am
Bad news for Marshawn Lynch.
Already in the NFL system, he should be looking at 2-3 game suspension.
IMO, drunk-driving is worse then what McClain did.
McCLain was in control of the situation and only put 1 live at risk. Drunk-driving allows for no-control and you put 100’s of lives at risk.
July 17th, 2012 at 6:15 am
With a rookie QB getting half the starts.
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TJ Yates played in 6 games. Had a 7.08 YPA
M. Schaub played in 10 games. Had a 8.49 YPA
July 17th, 2012 at 6:17 am
Great stories in the Where are they Now piece in SI.
Especially the Earl Campbell and Shawn Kemp.
Earl Campbell lives 5 blocks from campus, has his Heisman trophy sitting on his coffee table, and leaves his doors unlocked all day. No issues. Never hired an agent through his playing years, always just worked with Austin brokers and CPA’s on his own doing.
July 17th, 2012 at 6:18 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 6:15 am
Bad news for Marshawn Lynch.
Already in the NFL system, he should be looking at 2-3 game suspension.
IMO, drunk-driving is worse then what McClain did.
McCLain was in control of the situation and only put 1 live at risk. Drunk-driving allows for no-control and you put 100’s of lives at risk.
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yeah and how bout no video evidence showing 55 do anything that he was originally accused of doing, but you’re right about Lynch exposing more people to danger.
July 17th, 2012 at 6:18 am
M. Schaub played in 10 games. Had a 8.49 YPA
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8.49 would have been 3rd in the league last year, ahead of the Giants and Saints.
July 17th, 2012 at 6:18 am
Getting one stop out of 7 drives makes a bigger impact than 1 stop out of 8.
That’s all I’m saying. If you control the clock, and the key is obviously to score points on top of it, then that one sack-fumble on defense has more impact on the game.
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I agree in principle. But I don’t have much faith that our defense is built to give us that timely sack-fumble when we need it. All I remember of this group is late 4th Qtr meltdowns.
All we can do objectively is hope that Allen and Tarver reshape and fortify the defense so that the defense at least holds its own when the chips are down.
July 17th, 2012 at 6:20 am
So then logically what DHB did is worse than what McCheese did?
July 17th, 2012 at 6:21 am
All we can do objectively is hope that Allen and Tarver reshape and fortify the defense so that the defense at least holds its own when the chips are down.
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Last minute drives are tough in the NFL on defenses.
One PI call, one missed tackle, and you are pretty much toast if they only need a FG.
No doubt, they will be tested in a big moment this season to get that stop. Here’s to hoping someone mans up and makes a friggin play.
July 17th, 2012 at 6:21 am
guest123 Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 6:20 am
So then logically what DHB did is worse than what McCheese did?
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Well he would have put more lives at risk..I just still haven’t seen any real evidence against McClain yet, the video didn’t show him hit or shoot anything.
July 17th, 2012 at 6:23 am
How bout Dez Bryant pushing his mom, of all people, then turning himself in…typical Jerry Jones clowns in Dallas.
July 17th, 2012 at 6:24 am
So then logically what DHB did is worse than what McCheese did?
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I like DHB, and I know it is tough to think of a smiling, always jovial DHB being a bigger azzwipe then the always terse, always a d!ckhead Rolando jumping some dude and putting a gun in his face, but yes, in that one instance.
Just my opinion. I am strongly against Drunk-driving.
July 17th, 2012 at 6:24 am
Last minute drives are tough in the NFL on defenses.
One PI call, one missed tackle, and you are pretty much toast if they only need a FG.
No doubt, they will be tested in a big moment this season to get that stop. Here’s to hoping someone mans up and makes a friggin play.
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Yeah, I’m hoping for that friggin play to happen too. But I’m also not holding my breath. Again, it’s rolaids time all over again. Wouldn’t it be so much easier to put your team offensively ahead by 2 scores in the 4th and put the pressure on the other guys to fail?
Does that not sound appealing to anyone?
July 17th, 2012 at 6:24 am
Next month Burris or Branch will lay the wood on Dez in the pre-season game, and tell him “Respect your Momma Beyotch”lol
July 17th, 2012 at 6:26 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 6:24 am
So then logically what DHB did is worse than what McCheese did?
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I like DHB, and I know it is tough to think of a smiling, always jovial DHB being a bigger azzwipe then the always terse, always a d!ckhead Rolando jumping some dude and putting a gun in his face, but yes, in that one instance.
Just my opinion. I am strongly against Drunk-driving.
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The McClain thing is all accusations, did you see him hit anyone in the video?
July 17th, 2012 at 6:27 am
Wouldn’t it be so much easier to put your team offensively ahead by 2 scores in the 4th and put the pressure on the other guys to fail?
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Detroit game, lol.
Man that defense was bad last year huh!!! Up 2 scores at home to Lions, forcing San Diego to go 99 yards, hanging 35 points on the road in Buffalo, etc.
Our defense snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.
July 17th, 2012 at 6:29 am
The McClain thing is all accusations, did you see him hit anyone in the video?
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I didn’t, and I am not from the hood in the South, but that whole situation was pretty disgusting.
Obviously a former buddy got beat on when he was outnumbered, and people recorded it so they could be on worldstar.
And our struggling MLB was there during the workweek.
Not cool.
July 17th, 2012 at 6:31 am
Our defense snatched themselves – by the nads!
July 17th, 2012 at 6:34 am
I think a good way to mask a weak defense is with a good offense. Statistically the Packers were one of the weakest defenses, except for the all important turnover differential. But I think that was helped in large part by playing against desparate offenses playing catchup and chucking the ball into no mans land. That defense wasn’t good. But the offense made them look good. We have that kind of powerful offense. I just hope that Knapp recognizes it and doesn’t put the training wheels on like he did when JaMarcus was here. I don’t think he will either, but I’d like him to be aggressive as he can be. Line up playmakers at every position, (Yes I mean at TE as well) and make the defense pick its poison. With the team speed we have, we should be executing 2 minute drives on the regular. Lighting up the scoreboard. And then putting the defense in position to clean up and make plays against desparate come-back offenses.
July 17th, 2012 at 6:36 am
our struggling MLB was there during the workweek.
Not cool.
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Not cool at all. Hopefully he fuggs up again and gets suspended by the NFL for a year. Then Reggie can find a way out of salary cap hell and release him.
July 17th, 2012 at 6:38 am
I think Rolando is going to be like adding a first round pick to this team next year.
He will play his azz off and start to emerge as the guy we thought we drafted.
July 17th, 2012 at 6:39 am
With the team speed we have, we should be executing 2 minute drives on the regular. Lighting up the scoreboard.
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As long as they are scoring TD’s instead of FG’s.
Having one play for 45 yards, but a 5 play 49 yard drive for a FG doesn’t really do anybody anygood.
July 17th, 2012 at 6:41 am
As long as they are scoring TD’s instead of FG’s.
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agreed! Go for the jugular.
July 17th, 2012 at 6:41 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 6:15 am
Bad news for Marshawn Lynch.
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In Oakland, no less.
When in Rome . . .
July 17th, 2012 at 6:43 am
I think Rolando is going to be like adding a first round pick to this team next year.
He will play his azz off and start to emerge as the guy we thought we drafted.
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You know, I hate to come off as a hater, but this kid isn’t right in the head, just a bad seed. So no, I hope he fails. I hope for a DUI or a barroom fight or another pistol incident. He’s incorrigible. Can’t wait till he’s in our rear view mirror.
July 17th, 2012 at 6:45 am
It would take a huge “Come to Jesus” makeover of McCheese’s demeanor for me to ever root for him again. Not that I myself am holier than thou, I just dislike him and dislike his game.
July 17th, 2012 at 6:46 am
I completely detest what Rolando has done off the field and even with his handling of the media.
But I guess I am in the minority here, but I think I have seen him make enough plays here and there to warrant the belief that he could emerge as a NFL Quality MLB in the years ahead.
Besides, our LBing depth chart is abysmal, so a barroom shootout from Rolando does us no good in the present sense.
July 17th, 2012 at 6:46 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 6:29 am
The McClain thing is all accusations, did you see him hit anyone in the video?
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I didn’t, and I am not from the hood in the South, but that whole situation was pretty disgusting.
Obviously a former buddy got beat on when he was outnumbered, and people recorded it so they could be on worldstar.
And our struggling MLB was there during the workweek.
Not cool.
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You’re right man, I’ve said that he acted juvenile and shouldn’t have even been there, but the court has to convict him of what he was accused of.
July 17th, 2012 at 6:51 am
Just another kid from Alabama gone wrong,
July 17th, 2012 at 6:51 am
but the court has to convict him of what he was accused of.
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I don’t think they will either.
Sadly, I believe the local DA got hoodwinked by some thugs, when one guy was supposed to snitch, then went on the stand and played dumb.
July 17th, 2012 at 6:57 am
Rolando was already convicted on May 17. It’s now a matter of it being overturned in appeals court. He is guilty until proven otherwise.
July 17th, 2012 at 7:01 am
I had a feeling this six week vacation the players bargained for was going to bite them in the butt. You get all sorts of reports of players getting in trouble with law. Dez Bryant, Marshawn Lynch, DHB, etc….
These fools don’t know how to stay out of trouble for six measley weeks. They need to be stationed in barracks with bed checks to keep them from hurting themselves. They act like children.
Six weeks of rest between OTA and training camp is a bad idea.
July 17th, 2012 at 7:10 am
Yeah it is a shame.
Earl Campbell, who is hired on by Texas as some type of councilor to the football players, talked about how this kids today want more the material stuff then anything else.
Basically said that if you failed in the 70’s and 80’s in the NFL, and had to come back to Austin, you felt shame. Now the kids just brag about there new Escalade they got from the league, and pay no mind that they failed in the NFL and live at home again.
July 17th, 2012 at 7:11 am
Six weeks of rest is actually a good idea – it’s just that SOME of these prima dona million-dollar spoiled brat asswipes can’t handle the pressure or the responsibility to do the right thing – they just want to go to the club and show off … then they end up on the police blotter.
July 17th, 2012 at 7:13 am
Six weeks of rest between OTA and training camp is a bad idea.
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Agree……Not only is it time for idle hands to get into trouble, but it’s just enough time to check out mentally and lose focus. They build all this momentum from OTA’s, then lose it and have to build it back up again; what, 10 days before their 1st game? C’mon MaYne…
July 17th, 2012 at 7:20 am
I now it is talked about all the time, but being a millionaire and getting a DUI is the stupidest thing EVER!!
Who likes driving anyways? Wouldn’t you rather get a limo and get down in the backseat with some groupie? Or maybe throw the keys to Lil Cease and roll up the next blunt?
Like Jason Kidd. Completely hammered, and drives home BY HIMSELF!!! That doesn’t even sound fun, lol.
July 17th, 2012 at 7:26 am
Wasn’t DHB busted on the bridge?
LOL….dude where are you going??
July 17th, 2012 at 7:26 am
There needs to be some news on the Bensen activity. I can’t believe there’s not a peep anywhere.
ESPN is braking down the AFC West today 4PM Eastern. We all need to watch then come back here and hate on all the haters!
July 17th, 2012 at 7:27 am
RaidingTexas Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 6:57 am
Rolando was already convicted on May 17. It’s now a matter of it being overturned in appeals court. He is guilty until proven otherwise.
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Yeah good point there…hope fully the court sees that they got duped by a snitch looking for a payday as JFB mentioned.
July 17th, 2012 at 7:29 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 7:20 am
I now it is talked about all the time, but being a millionaire and getting a DUI is the stupidest thing EVER!!
Who likes driving anyways? Wouldn’t you rather get a limo and get down in the backseat with some groupie? Or maybe throw the keys to Lil Cease and roll up the next blunt?
Like Jason Kidd. Completely hammered, and drives home BY HIMSELF!!! That doesn’t even sound fun, lol.
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LMAO! Yeah any rich athlete can afford a personal driver, and hey maybe they can provide security too so they don’t end up like Javon Walker..
July 17th, 2012 at 7:29 am
You mean they will be breaking down Philisha and Peyton?
They might throw in a sliver that D-Mac is the key to us,
but that will be about it.
July 17th, 2012 at 7:31 am
Hire a personel driver, hell someone like Jason Kidd could probably hire a limo service to use maybe twice a week for somewhere around 25K a year, which is peanuts to him.
July 17th, 2012 at 7:32 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 7:29 am
You mean they will be breaking down Philisha and Peyton?
They might throw in a sliver that D-Mac is the key to us,
but that will be about it.
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Yeah lol, and maybe throw in a quick hit about how great Wimbley was and that we finish last in the division this year.
July 17th, 2012 at 7:34 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 7:31 am
Hire a personel driver, hell someone like Jason Kidd could probably hire a limo service to use maybe twice a week for somewhere around 25K a year, which is peanuts to him.
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That’s where the ego comes in bro…with a personal driver they can’t floss the new whips they buy every month or two.lol
July 17th, 2012 at 7:39 am
Tx, if you don’t think your envy’s showing for rich athletes, it is.
July 17th, 2012 at 7:40 am
Good grief tx, just bitterness toward rich athletes, all morning long. Reading your comments. Enjoy what you have, tx. Don’t be so bitter over what others have.
July 17th, 2012 at 7:41 am
2 pro athletes from bay area get DUIs. DUIs amongst bay area athletes come in tens! So which 8 are next?
July 17th, 2012 at 7:41 am
Sullivan44 Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 7:39 am
Tx, if you don’t think your envy’s showing for rich athletes, it is.
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Please buddy, yeah my envy for rich athletes.lol We’re simply talking about hiring drivers and why some people may not.
July 17th, 2012 at 7:42 am
Hey Sully, go Fk yourself!
July 17th, 2012 at 7:45 am
Sullivan44 Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 7:40 am
Good grief tx, just bitterness toward rich athletes, all morning long. Reading your comments. Enjoy what you have, tx. Don’t be so bitter over what others have.
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All this tough talk from a guy who’s an admitted 9er fan and hates everything about the Raiders.
July 17th, 2012 at 7:47 am
Tx, if you don’t think your envy’s showing for rich athletes, it is.
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And your need for attention is showing even more, lol.
July 17th, 2012 at 7:48 am
Oakland teck football star gets a dui?? Just call him a seahawk azholes.
July 17th, 2012 at 7:48 am
Haha, that’s funny, JFB. My need for attention is showing more. Man, you really put this one to bed.
July 17th, 2012 at 7:49 am
I thought so
July 17th, 2012 at 7:50 am
tx, it’s all supply and demand, buddy. People go to games, buy products that are advertised, players get paid. Don’t know what to tell you. You can let it make you mad, or just enjoy your life and be thankful for what you have. I know that’s hard for bitter old haters like you.
July 17th, 2012 at 7:50 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 7:47 am
Tx, if you don’t think your envy’s showing for rich athletes, it is.
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And your need for attention is showing even more, lol.
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Some folks need their morning trolling like others need coffee.lol
July 17th, 2012 at 7:50 am
“I thought so”
Wow, JFB. Take it easy, seriously. Go easy on me. You’re on fire today.
July 17th, 2012 at 7:51 am
Mornin’ Tx…I see we’re at it again aye? Golf was fun yesterday. MAN, I suck. Still fun though
July 17th, 2012 at 7:51 am
Sullivan44 Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 7:50 am
tx, it’s all supply and demand, buddy. People go to games, buy products that are advertised, players get paid. Don’t know what to tell you. You can let it make you mad, or just enjoy your life and be thankful for what you have. I know that’s hard for bitter old haters like you.
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I’m neither bitter nor old, KK, go change that diaper of yours.
July 17th, 2012 at 7:52 am
How could anybody belive that team usa 2012 could beat the dream team.. Every sports analist that picked team usa should get shlt canned for ignorance..
July 17th, 2012 at 7:52 am
theghostronin79 Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 7:51 am
Mornin’ Tx…I see we’re at it again aye? Golf was fun yesterday. MAN, I suck. Still fun though
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Whut up bro? Hey don’t feel bad one bit man, if I went to a company golf tourney, I’d end up fired or injuring a bystander.lol
July 17th, 2012 at 7:53 am
tx raider, if you don’t want people to think you’re a grouchy old guy, stop complaining about what athletes get paid.
July 17th, 2012 at 7:53 am
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I’m neither bitter nor old, KK, go change that diaper of yours
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Why even respond to that dumb Schyt?
July 17th, 2012 at 7:54 am
Sports media today is all about promoting sports. That’s why they say the current USA team is better than the dream team. They know it’s not true. They just have to say it. They ran out the Howard Cossells, that keep it real. Cossell would do an entire episode of wild world of sports on how bad the current USA team.
July 17th, 2012 at 7:55 am
I love it when people talk about me in third person, and say they’re ignoring me.
July 17th, 2012 at 7:56 am
sports media today is all about protecting the business of sports. You should see kozemor on that comcast shill for the niner stadium. He’ll have a job at foxnews in a few years.
July 17th, 2012 at 7:57 am
Yeah basically this USA team might lose if Lebron has an off night.
The original Dream Team could have it’s whole starting unit have an off night, and still would have slapped around Brazil by 25 last night.
July 17th, 2012 at 7:58 am
theghostronin79 Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 7:53 am
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I’m neither bitter nor old, KK, go change that diaper of yours
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Why even respond to that dumb Schyt?
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It doesn’t bother me one bit, but I should stop feeding the trolls.lol So what’s up with all the recent arrests man? half the nfl may face discipline.lol
July 17th, 2012 at 7:58 am
99% of the tv heads I saw picked the dream team. But the few dorks yhat chose 2012 just blew my mind..your fired.lol
July 17th, 2012 at 8:03 am
Dream team would beat team usa by at Least 25..
July 17th, 2012 at 8:03 am
Anyone have a feeling Nike may screw the fans out of a good jersey line-up this year? Looks as though we’ll have to get some of our favorite jerseys custom..
July 17th, 2012 at 8:05 am
what’s up with all the recent arrests man? half the nfl may face discipline.lol
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Shoot, they may have to just come up with more severe consequences. I didn’t say “Punishment” because they’re different things…..How’s the team gonna fix the penalty problem too?
Consequences my friend. There HAS to be a consequence that puts a little fear in you, or you won’t have the respect.
July 17th, 2012 at 8:09 am
I think its gonna be a custom jersey yr. Im leaning towards wiz or veldeer
July 17th, 2012 at 8:09 am
Anyone have a feeling Nike may screw the fans out of a good jersey line-up this year? Looks as though we’ll have to get some of our favorite jerseys custom..
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Yeah, it’s only 50 bucks more. I mean the replicas are 100 smacks anyway. (Used to be 75).
Might as well just custom one up.
July 17th, 2012 at 8:10 am
theghostronin79 Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 8:05 am
what’s up with all the recent arrests man? half the nfl may face discipline.lol
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Shoot, they may have to just come up with more severe consequences. I didn’t say “Punishment” because they’re different things…..How’s the team gonna fix the penalty problem too?
Consequences my friend. There HAS to be a consequence that puts a little fear in you, or you won’t have the respect.
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Yeah I’d agree 100 percent with that..must be held accountable for their actions. Maybe they will implement a system that requires automatic suspensions per offense, so Goodell won’t have to look at each case so close. Bet that guy has a pile of paperwork 10 ft high on his desk just from player’s issues.
July 17th, 2012 at 8:12 am
theghostronin79 Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 8:09 am
Anyone have a feeling Nike may screw the fans out of a good jersey line-up this year? Looks as though we’ll have to get some of our favorite jerseys custom..
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Yeah, it’s only 50 bucks more. I mean the replicas are 100 smacks anyway. (Used to be 75).
Might as well just custom one up.
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Yeah man, I’ll just do the custom Burris or Bartell before the reg season starts, 50 bucks aint a whole lot these days.
July 17th, 2012 at 8:14 am
Burris or Bartell?? Wow, that is bold my friend.
I can see Burris taking a hot minute to catch up to the new speed and talent of the NFL, and Bartell is coming off breaking his neck (literally).
July 17th, 2012 at 8:15 am
I’m hoping to land this job tomorrow, so I can afford to get to some games this year. My current contract is up in 2 months, but I need that stability.
July 17th, 2012 at 8:15 am
It’s all about money and political pressure. Only reason punishment for DUIs is so severe is because of organizations like MADD. They’ve got a ton of money to bring down any politician that goes against making drunk driving offenses more severe. And look at the results. DUIs just keep increasing. You’ll never stop Americans from drinking and jumping into the machines of their time. Most would rather face jail than stop.
July 17th, 2012 at 8:16 am
The corrupt courts dont punish ppl with money & good lawers.. America is dead. Smoke some weed..
July 17th, 2012 at 8:16 am
Get a job in corrections, Tx Raider. That’s all who’s hiring these days. Or sell dope.
July 17th, 2012 at 8:17 am
Tx Raider,
sell crack to JFB and his friends.
July 17th, 2012 at 8:17 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 8:14 am
Burris or Bartell?? Wow, that is bold my friend.
I can see Burris taking a hot minute to catch up to the new speed and talent of the NFL, and Bartell is coming off breaking his neck (literally).
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LOL that’s right man, I want the jersey that makes people look twice..who the fk is that? I think they’ll both be beasts, and Bartell’s neck was a fracture, nothing like Peyton’s ordeal imo
July 17th, 2012 at 8:19 am
What are you doing buying jerseys when you’re unemployed, tx? Are these authentic jerseys? They’re over a hundred a pop, aren’t they?
July 17th, 2012 at 8:19 am
819.Raiderbuck Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 7:26 am
There needs to be some news on the Bensen activity. I can’t believe there’s not a peep anywhere.
ESPN is braking down the AFC West today 4PM Eastern. We all need to watch then come back here and hate on all the haters!
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Yeah. I don’t recall ever seeing a Raider team predicted to be this bad. Not everybody is saying that but the overwhelming majority thinks we are one of worst teams in NFL. Why?
8-8 two straight yrs. for a basically young team. We lose “key defensive players” like Routt and Wimbley who were irreplacable cogs on our vaunted shut down defense. Whatever.
July 17th, 2012 at 8:20 am
tx, save your money and you might be able to live like rich athletes. Blowing money on authentic jerseys when you’re unemployed, no wonder you hate rich athletes so much.
July 17th, 2012 at 8:21 am
We haven’t had a winning season in almost a decade.
Carson Palmer really never played to his expectation.
we have no sure handed receivers.
Our run defense has been one of the worst in recent memory.
That’ll get you low expectations.
July 17th, 2012 at 8:22 am
LOL Corrections officer or dope dealer..no middle ground at all?
July 17th, 2012 at 8:25 am
For all the talk if how Al was holding us back and “just wait till the old man goes away” talk, now that he’s gone it’s almost like they think Raiders cannot survive without him.
Is that the underlying vibe about this team that nobody is saying out loud?
Even after the 2-14 season with Art we weren’t predicted to be THIS bad. Maybe it has something to do with Al picking up big name FA’s in the offseason of a bad yr. and it appearing as though we were poised to do some things?
We suck cuz of Al holding us back yet now that he’s gone…we suck BECAUSE of it.
July 17th, 2012 at 8:25 am
Corrections are the only people hiring? I thought the public sector was “doing fine”?
What gives?
July 17th, 2012 at 8:26 am
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LOL that’s right man, I want the jersey that makes people look twice..who the fk is that? I think they’ll both be beasts, and Bartell’s neck was a fracture, nothing like Peyton’s ordeal imo
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I really like the Burris #56. I JUUUST may have to get that one myself. I’m also thinking about a Criner #84.
July 17th, 2012 at 8:26 am
866. Theyre just sticking with the trend of raider suck.. The experts dont go out on a limb too often. We havent been winners forever so..
July 17th, 2012 at 8:26 am
corrections officer, dope dealer, or selling bogus retirement plans to law enforcement. That’s about what it boils down to. Take your pick.
July 17th, 2012 at 8:27 am
theghostronin79 Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 8:26 am
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LOL that’s right man, I want the jersey that makes people look twice..who the fk is that? I think they’ll both be beasts, and Bartell’s neck was a fracture, nothing like Peyton’s ordeal imo
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I really like the Burris #56. I JUUUST may have to get that one myself. I’m also thinking about a Criner #84.
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Those would be some good choices imo, but I’ll wait til after camp, just in case one of them changes their number for whatever reason,lol
July 17th, 2012 at 8:28 am
Mark’s hair,
put yourself in their shoes.
Carson Palmer with not one sure handed possession receiver?
One of the worst run defenses in the game?
What should they do, predict us to go 14-2?
July 17th, 2012 at 8:28 am
JFB,
I don’t get the “public sector just doing fine” thing. Is that a joke?
July 17th, 2012 at 8:28 am
Smart move……or gets injured
July 17th, 2012 at 8:28 am
Yes, because you hear about all these law enforcement officers getting stuck with “bogus” retirement plans, lol.
July 17th, 2012 at 8:29 am
I’d say 10-6 would be good, and 9-7 a fair prediction this year. They blew 4th quarter leads like nobody’s biz last year!
July 17th, 2012 at 8:30 am
Mark’s Hair,
You want the media to treat us as if we signed Manning. Our front office has improved tremendously but we still don’t have a good team. It’s going to take a few years. media just doing their jobs.
July 17th, 2012 at 8:30 am
10-6.
lol.
Raiders front office has changed, but not the fans!
July 17th, 2012 at 8:30 am
theghostronin79 Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 8:28 am
Smart move……or gets injured
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Yeah bro, health will be KEY in the Raiders making the playoffs this year. Look at all last years injuries..geez
July 17th, 2012 at 8:30 am
870. I disagree.. AL left us with a decade long losing streak and no fa spending money. Add in new coaches, and nobodys picking us..
July 17th, 2012 at 8:31 am
I dare anyone to make a case as to why the Raiders will be 10-6. I’d like to read this.
July 17th, 2012 at 8:32 am
tx,
make the case as to how the Raiders will be 10-6. Break it down. This ought to be good.
July 17th, 2012 at 8:32 am
They could have easily been 10-6 last year, if not for melt-downs against the Bills and Lions….dur- dur- dur!
July 17th, 2012 at 8:33 am
Talked to this old timer the other day. He said when he was my age, you could walk down the street to any factory, work there for 30 years. Said he felt sorry for us.
July 17th, 2012 at 8:33 am
tx,
coulda woulda shoulda
July 17th, 2012 at 8:33 am
7-1 at home, 3-5 on the road.
Simple as that.
July 17th, 2012 at 8:34 am
Sull I agree with you. You are disagreeing with dj jonny.
July 17th, 2012 at 8:35 am
Come on man lets sign Cedric Benson and get it over with. Maybe he can be the consistant Thunder that Bush never was. Bush has more swivel than Benson but production wise it is about the same.
July 17th, 2012 at 8:35 am
You have to win those dur dur dur games, tx. That’s the difference between the mediocre teams and the good teams. That makes us mediocre, is all that argument does. It’s going to take a couple of years. We have the front office. We have the 3 year plan for a Super bowl now, the Green Bay model, and I’ll take it. Because remember, to an extent its the Ron Wolf model, who was our de facto GM for most of the ’70s and 80s.
July 17th, 2012 at 8:35 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 8:33 am
7-1 at home, 3-5 on the road.
Simple as that.
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Yeah that sums it up…DA should have these guys ready for the east coast trips this year, even if it requires them arriving a day earlier.
July 17th, 2012 at 8:35 am
It seems even the most ill-informed ‘analyst’ should realize that Palmer came off his couch at home to QB a NEW team with a new playbook and teammates with injuries to key players. That’s a tall task for a QB coming back to a team he’s been playing with for yrs.
Expectations were way too high if people expected Palmer to just come in and play at high level right away.
That being said, he came on strong the last couple games with a clutch performance on the road at KC and 417 yds. with 2 td’s in the last one.
They can say whtever they want. It’ll all play out on the field and there’s always the chance they are right about us. I don’t think so, but that’s whay they play the games to quote an overused maxim.
July 17th, 2012 at 8:36 am
Ive already stated many times I dont think we make the playoffs unless dmc has a mvp type season..
July 17th, 2012 at 8:36 am
Raider O Says:
July 15th, 2012 at 7:44 pm
Ohioraider Says:
July 15th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
bigsnow81 Says:
July 14th, 2012 at 10:22 pm
What’s crackin Nation? McKenzie thinks Branch is the real deal. I will always root for Al Davis draft picks to succeed. The first off-season without Al, doesn’t feel right.
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Ahhh, it feels beautiful, sane, enlightened…
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
It does? Why? Because the HOFer owner/ GM is dead?
You people make me sick.
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Yeah, that’s right. I’m tired of losing. And if you dispute the collective sigh of relief coming from just about every corner just look closely at what Mark Davis and Reggie McKenzie are doing the organization from the ground up: it’s called blowing it the f up.
July 17th, 2012 at 8:36 am
I’d say 10-6 would be good, and 9-7 a fair prediction this year. They blew 4th quarter leads like nobody’s biz last year!
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No kidding, they coulda been 10-6 LAST year. Shoulda been anyway. I think the offense is gonna score more points this year. That alone should help get us over the hump. Defense just has to stand pat, but I actually think they’ll be more sound on D this year too.
July 17th, 2012 at 8:37 am
I have faith that fixing even half of the penalty problem, along with a healthy DMac will get us to the playoffs? Anyone feel the same?
July 17th, 2012 at 8:37 am
Al Davis never had the 3 year plan for a Super Bowl. Just the 1 year plan. And you have to have a good team to have a one year plan. And I don’t mean good according to the fans, I mean good as in Roethlisberger, Brees, or Rodgers is your QB.
July 17th, 2012 at 8:39 am
DJ Johnnny,
Palmer has been in the league how long now?
He never really panned out.
Of course we’re hoping for that Jim Plunket, Rich Gannon magic out of him. But you can’t plan for long shots. They just happen when you make the best of what you have. We need to draft a QB. It’s going to be a few years. If Palmer winds up being a Plunkett miracle, we’ll take it. But that can’t be the plan. That’s where Al was so wrong.
July 17th, 2012 at 8:39 am
theghostronin79 Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 8:36 am
I’d say 10-6 would be good, and 9-7 a fair prediction this year. They blew 4th quarter leads like nobody’s biz last year!
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No kidding, they coulda been 10-6 LAST year. Shoulda been anyway. I think the offense is gonna score more points this year. That alone should help get us over the hump. Defense just has to stand pat, but I actually think they’ll be more sound on D this year too.
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Yeah bro, and don’t forget the finale we could have won against SD. I put the late game melt-downs on the coaching staff, and we have a new one now.
July 17th, 2012 at 8:39 am
I’m not predicting 10-6, but it is feasible.
July 17th, 2012 at 8:40 am
I think we SHOULD have been an 8-8 team last year.
We had some tough losses, but also some lucky wins (KC, Houston especially).
It all usually evens itself out in the end.
July 17th, 2012 at 8:41 am
Look at all the teams saying no thanks to palmer before we traded for him. I don’t see where Palmer proved them wrong.
July 17th, 2012 at 8:42 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 8:40 am
I think we SHOULD have been an 8-8 team last year.
We had some tough losses, but also some lucky wins (KC, Houston especially).
It all usually evens itself out in the end.
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Yeah that’s true man, but the one constant was giving up late game leads. I don’t see DA being conservative because he’s up by 7 on a team, like Hue was.
July 17th, 2012 at 8:42 am
You have to be sitting on the top tier of the league to have a one year plan for the SB. Otherwise you’re in the middle of a 3 year plan or starting a 3 year plan. I believe we’re starting a 3 year plan. I really believe in 3 years we’ll be a 12 win team, or more.
July 17th, 2012 at 8:43 am
Can’t wait to see our defense just get better and better the next couple of years. Keeping leads for a change.
July 17th, 2012 at 8:44 am
Sandoval not being charged. Another pro athlete gets away with rape.
July 17th, 2012 at 8:45 am
I will drink the 10-6 Kool-aid !! Speaking of kool-aid, I’m off to lunch.
July 17th, 2012 at 8:46 am
I can make the case for 10-6.
-Palmer plays like the QB he was (or similar) to his pro bowl yrs. Why? A solid young receiver group and a very good running game. He’s not over the hill.
-The NFL’s leading rusher (when he went down) is back and healthy.
-The defense that couldn’t make a clutch stop to save their lives…or the season… improves to just below average status, which would’ve been good enough to win 3 more games (at least) last yr.
W/out extensively analyzing this, if the offense stays the same or gets a little better (Palmer full offseason and DMAC back healthy)we’re fine there.
The defense “improves” to maybe 18th ranked with better coaching and less predictable schemes.
THAT should take an 8-8 team to 10-6.
I don’t see why that would be so far fetched.
But again…we’ll see cuz u never know how other teams on our schedule will be improved as well.
July 17th, 2012 at 8:47 am
We had some tough losses, but also some lucky wins (KC, Houston especially).
It all usually evens itself out in the end.
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True, True…….. Usually tend to forget about the Close victories and remember only the Blown lead giveaways.
July 17th, 2012 at 8:47 am
I think Dennis Allen’s visor, the actually visor not the poster, is going to shave off about 10 yards of penalties per game, just by itself.
Sometimes perception is the only reality. Last year we had a coach who rolled his eyes at refs, talked of building a bully, and was surrounded by grade-A NFL losers on his staff.
Now we got an egghead, wearing a visor, with some Stanford genius-boy next to him.
Perception…..is finally on our side.
July 17th, 2012 at 8:47 am
Marks hair Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 8:36 am
Ive already stated many times I dont think we make the playoffs unless dmc has a mvp type season..
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So basically just stays healthy.
Because last year he was on pace for the MVP.
July 17th, 2012 at 8:51 am
DJ Jonnny,
there’s nothing wrong with you believing that. Yo’ure a fan. But the media’s job is to make a real assessment of the team, and they’d get laughed right out of the studio for predicting this Raiders team to win 10 games. Every fan in the league thinks their team’s a 10 win team right now, Johnny. It’s up to the media to keep it real.
July 17th, 2012 at 8:51 am
# 913
Fantastic point about perception. Agreed
July 17th, 2012 at 8:52 am
Yeah that sums it up…DA should have these guys ready for the east coast trips this year, even if it requires them arriving a day earlier.
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tottaly agree!
July 17th, 2012 at 8:52 am
Dez Bryant slapped his mom in the face, and puller her hair.
July 17th, 2012 at 8:53 am
pulled*
July 17th, 2012 at 8:54 am
Dez Bryant slapped his mom in the face, and puller her hair.
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BullSchyt…..For REAL?
July 17th, 2012 at 8:54 am
Dez is a moron and will be out of money before he is out of the league.
Gottlieb, who went to Okie State and has tons of connections there, constantly tells how this kid is clueless about it all.
July 17th, 2012 at 8:55 am
Supposedly Dez, per Gottlieb, was asking teammates last year for loans on his future paychecks.
Dude is overdrafting his account, living paycheck to paycheck.
That will catch up to you.
July 17th, 2012 at 8:59 am
912.theghostronin79 Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 8:47 am
We had some tough losses, but also some lucky wins (KC, Houston especially).
It all usually evens itself out in the end.
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True, True…….. Usually tend to forget about the Close victories and remember only the Blown lead giveaways.
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But those close victories were games we had dominated for the most part and gave up a lot of scores at the need to make it seem closer.
Even the Houston game. I don’t see how we were lucky to win that. Plus, that was JC at QB. There are alot of close games in the season. Just cuz WE won a few shouldn’t take away from the fact we came out on top in the end.
-Chicago. Raiders dominated. That could’ve easily been a blowout.
-Cleveland. Same thing.
-KC. We were up 13-6 and allowed Orton to drive the field with the obligatory late game TD.
I don’t recall a single game where the Raiders came back to win with the “miracle” late td or fg….we were ahead in those games we won.
July 17th, 2012 at 8:59 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 8:55 am
Supposedly Dez, per Gottlieb, was asking teammates last year for loans on his future paychecks.
Dude is overdrafting his account, living paycheck to paycheck.
That will catch up to you
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The sad part is if someone told him this he would be in total denial. (like half of america)
July 17th, 2012 at 9:02 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 8:52 am
Dez Bryant slapped his mom in the face, and puller her hair.
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She poured the kool-aid down the drain. You’d respond that way too.
July 17th, 2012 at 9:06 am
Here’s another thing.
IF that pathetic defense of ours holds a 27-14 lead late agaisnt Detroit, OR finds a way to keep SD down at THEIR OWN 1/2 YD. LINE and gives the ball back to a QB who was having his best game in yrs. on a short field, we would probably be talking about a Raider team that wins the division, hosts a beat up Pittsburgh team at home in the 1st rd. and possibly plays a 2nd rd. game at New England…which we would lose…perhaps badly.
Then the talk is about how Carson Palmer is the hero who came off the couch to lead the Raiders to their 1st playoff berth in yrs. Not the over the hill “has been” who is beyond his prime.
July 17th, 2012 at 9:15 am
Then the talk is about how Carson Palmer is the hero who came off the couch to lead the Raiders to their 1st playoff berth in yrs. Not the over the hill “has been” who is beyond his prime.
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Great post, DJ. Isn’t it interesting/funny how a play here or there not even necessarily by said player, changes perception of said player. QB gets all the credit and ALL the blame. Fact is Palmer was playing some good ball to close out the year and the D flushed it all down the toilet.
July 17th, 2012 at 9:17 am
Without a proper camp/offseason and without DMAC, yet people wanna hate. Lol. You people.
July 17th, 2012 at 9:20 am
915.Sullivan44 Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 8:51 am
DJ Jonnny,
there’s nothing wrong with you believing that. Yo’ure a fan. But the media’s job is to make a real assessment of the team, and they’d get laughed right out of the studio for predicting this Raiders team to win 10 games. Every fan in the league thinks their team’s a 10 win team right now, Johnny. It’s up to the media to keep it real.
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I agree. But too often there is not any real analysis going on. We listen to some of these guys cuz we expect to hear something we don’t know already about our team and we want to respect what they are saying.
When I see “analysis” like the following I have to wonder if they have even bothered to make the effort.
From Walter Football’s 2012 NFL Power Rankings:
29. Oakland Raiders (8-8) – Previously: 27.
MAY 4 UPDATE: I don’t know what’s going on. Did the Raiders draft without a coach? Or was the cardboard cutout of Al Davis in the war room? I’m so confused about Oakland’s coaching situation.
APRIL 17 UPDATE: I’m still not sure who Oakland’s head coach is. They might as well get a cardboard cutout of Al Davis and put it on the sidelines. What does it matter? The real coach is just going to be fired in a few weeks anyway.
MARCH 9 UPDATE: The Raiders are going to be terrible next year. They’re changing defensive schemes, getting rid of key players and preparing for another season of Carson Palmer. And why do they keep switching coaches every two seconds? I don’t even know who the coach is anymore. Is it still Art Shell?
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I don’t know if this Walter Football is just some guy in his mom’s basement who made a website or what, but for whatever reason it gets referenced as a football site we should pay attention to.
I get the guy is trying to be cute, but c’mon.
July 17th, 2012 at 9:23 am
We’re an average team until proven otherwise.
90% of the teams in the NFL are the same. Its the leadership/training that seperates you.
July 17th, 2012 at 9:25 am
Walter football = bleacher report
Crap > Bleacher report & Walter football
Stop giving them your attention/hits, people.
July 17th, 2012 at 9:27 am
Walter Football is pretty solid on their draft stuff, but it is really not a lot more advanced then what our stud lead scout Young American could do with a little extra time.
July 17th, 2012 at 9:30 am
There is a good 20 posters on here, hell maybe more, that could give you a much more informative and NON-BIASED breakdown of the Raiders upcoming season then most of these suits on TV.
July 17th, 2012 at 9:39 am
Banana, Yeah, a play or two here or there can make a huuuuge difference, and perception and anlysis of a team can go either way.
It seems we could just as easily and perhaps fairly see something like this:
“The common feeling around the league for yrs. is that late owner Al Davis was holding the Raiders back due to his meddling in the day to day on field operation of the team and all it’s activities. Now that Mr. Davis has passed i think it’s fair to presume the Raiders are poised to take the next step.
With consecutive 8-8 seasons and a relatively young team, with one of the best gamebreakers in the leaguee when healthy…and he is, the Raiders are in a great position to make some major noise in the AFC.
Without the meddling of AL Davis and the team in the capable hands of new GM Reggie McKenzie and his strong pedigree and history of success in GB, the Raiders are in an excellent position in 2012.”
-Richard Harton (AP).
July 17th, 2012 at 9:41 am
931.The Big Banana Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 9:25 am
Walter football = bleacher report
Crap > Bleacher report & Walter football
Stop giving them your attention/hits, people.
932.Just Fire Baby Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 9:27 am
Walter Football is pretty solid on their draft stuff, but it is really not a lot more advanced then what our stud lead scout Young American could do with a little extra time.
933.Just Fire Baby Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 9:30 am
There is a good 20 posters on here, hell maybe more, that could give you a much more informative and NON-BIASED breakdown of the Raiders upcoming season then most of these suits on TV.
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That is true. I believe in the analysis here more so than those diks on TV.
I’d really love to puch that nerd John Clayton in his nerdy little face…just becuz.
July 17th, 2012 at 9:44 am
We mention the Lions game and the D, but I can’t stress enough how much Hue’s “bold” play-calling failed us all game.
Before the epic Shane punt, we could have ran the ball and been snapping the punt at the two minute warning;Lions, nada timeouts. Instead deep to Chaz, he can’t catch it, clock stopped.
Accordingly the Lions had it 3rd 3 or 4, at the two minute-warning, and came out of the timeout with two plays called.
6 yard pass, quick snap, 35 yard bomb to Megatron out of bounds. It took 30 seconds, literally.
Hue Jackson = biggest weakness
July 17th, 2012 at 9:45 am
That’s why I gravitate towards analysts like John Clayton, whose analysis is usually void of any bias. But then that type of analysis doesn’t sell like the in-your-face former jocks that make bold/asinine comments.
July 17th, 2012 at 9:47 am
Grant Hill signing with LA.
Clippers.
July 17th, 2012 at 9:49 am
DJ – I haven’t paid much attention to BSPN lately. What did Clayton say to tick you off?
July 17th, 2012 at 9:51 am
The Cleveland game, lol.
If he kicks that FG at the end, I honestly think Cleveland would have gave up.
Not in Hue’s world I guess
July 17th, 2012 at 9:52 am
It’s amazing…the praise you guys expect the media to give to a team that hasn’t had a winning season since 2002.
July 17th, 2012 at 9:53 am
theghostronin79 Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 8:54 am
Dez Bryant slapped his mom in the face, and puller her hair.
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BullSchyt…..For REAL?
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He will pay for this on the field for sure..most of them guys love their momma, I’d hope..
July 17th, 2012 at 9:53 am
JFB – I agree completely. After the Lions game, I was done with Hue. What got me was not going for two when up by 12. The single extra point did absolutely no good. Game, season, and job lost
July 17th, 2012 at 9:53 am
Hue had to call a good game offensively, as was his gig, and put up points to offset all these defeciencies.
He certainly did at times, but not enough for The Reggie to put up with his BS.
July 17th, 2012 at 9:55 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 9:30 am
There is a good 20 posters on here, hell maybe more, that could give you a much more informative and NON-BIASED breakdown of the Raiders upcoming season then most of these suits on TV.
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I say we ditch the main stream media and take over the entire blogosphere!! bwahahaha
July 17th, 2012 at 9:56 am
And they actually called a penalty on Curry for punching the posts, which gave Hue EXTRA TIME to think about it, lol.
Isn’t there some type of chart? Where was Sauders for all this?
Baffling
July 17th, 2012 at 9:57 am
Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 8:52 am
Yeah that sums it up…DA should have these guys ready for the east coast trips this year, even if it requires them arriving a day earlier.
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tottaly agree!
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That seems to be a huge weakness…let these guys take mental reps and study film in the city they play that game, better than leaving last minute and dealing with jet lag imo..
July 17th, 2012 at 9:58 am
The Visor is key in 2012
July 17th, 2012 at 9:59 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 9:58 am
The Visor is key in 2012
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Thank you.
July 17th, 2012 at 10:01 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 9:59 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 9:58 am
The Visor is key in 2012
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Thank you.
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He sure shouldn’t have problems getting more respect than old Hue did from the officials, or players.
July 17th, 2012 at 10:05 am
joining the morning crew late today. busy @ work
missed the last 200 comments.
instead of reading thru them all, can I get a recap?
highlights Chris Berman style ??
July 17th, 2012 at 10:06 am
What do you all think will be the over/under for new notable arrests from now till training camp?
I’ll throw out a number of 3. over/under?
Idle minds are the devils playground indeed.
July 17th, 2012 at 10:09 am
guest123 Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 10:06 am
What do you all think will be the over/under for new notable arrests from now till training camp?
I’ll throw out a number of 3. over/under?
Idle minds are the devils playground indeed.
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With a couple weeks left and the spree they’ve been on, I’ll take the over.
July 17th, 2012 at 10:13 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 10:05 am
joining the morning crew late today. busy @ work
missed the last 200 comments.
instead of reading thru them all, can I get a recap?
highlights Chris Berman style ??
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Seems to be mostly C’mon Maynes lately and not lots of highlights..all these players getting in trouble.
July 17th, 2012 at 10:15 am
Rockstar here you go:
Hue stinks
July 17th, 2012 at 10:18 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 10:15 am
Rockstar here you go:
Hue stinks
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Oh yeah, and Dumervil brandishes weapons at women and Dez Bryant hits his momma
July 17th, 2012 at 10:21 am
I’ll take the over for the rest of the NFL. For the Raiders – zero problems in the next two weeks
July 17th, 2012 at 10:22 am
Would like some news, often and meaty
July 17th, 2012 at 10:23 am
Yep, zero issues for the Raiders I hope.
July 17th, 2012 at 10:24 am
joining the morning crew late today. busy @ work
missed the last 200 comments.
instead of reading thru them all, can I get a recap?
highlights Chris Berman style ??
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Yessir,
Umm….Slowlando sucks, our D cost us games last year
Players get into too many troubles in offseason.
HueJack was a Crank Waiver, and DA should command more respect all around.
And Sully thinks we’re Igner’nt wretches
July 17th, 2012 at 10:26 am
What’s up Rockstar!
No highlights really…just an update on the 2011 Huey Lewis and the Raiders National Tour!
July 17th, 2012 at 10:27 am
Lakers adding Jamison & O’Neal.
July 17th, 2012 at 10:31 am
theghostronin79 Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 10:24 am
joining the morning crew late today. busy @ work
missed the last 200 comments.
instead of reading thru them all, can I get a recap?
highlights Chris Berman style ??
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Yessir,
Umm….Slowlando sucks, our D cost us games last year
Players get into too many troubles in offseason.
HueJack was a Crank Waiver, and DA should command more respect all around.
And Sully thinks we’re Igner’nt wretches
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Heck of a recap bro..couldn’t have put it better myself.lol
July 17th, 2012 at 10:31 am
Hue stinks
Dumervil brandishes weapons at women and Dez Bryant hits his momma
Slowlando sucks, our D cost us games last year
Players get into too many troubles in offseason.
HueJack was a Crank Waiver, and DA should command more respect all around.
And Sully thinks we’re Igner’nt wretches
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wow, guess I didn’t miss much
co-signed everything !!
July 17th, 2012 at 10:35 am
LOL…..Yeah, that’s the daily around here.
Till we get some NEW stuff to chew on. Bring me CAMP BABY…..Bring me DALLAS.
July 17th, 2012 at 10:36 am
Ok guys, so when does the team typically get to an east coast game, Saturday morning..evening? It’d be sweet if they made it Friday morning and used whatever facilities the could imo.
July 17th, 2012 at 10:36 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 10:27 am
Lakers adding Jamison & O’Neal.
Seriously? Oh oh…Jermaine O’neal and Artest back again?
July 17th, 2012 at 10:38 am
Jerry Stackhouse signs deal with Brooklyn Nets
O.J. Mayo announces he will sign with Dallas Mavericks
Kris Humphries reaches deal to remain with Nets
Lakers near deal with Jamison, GM Kupchak denies it
Grant Hill near deal to sign with Clippers
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ZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
July 17th, 2012 at 10:38 am
Street Fighter, NBA 2012 Edition!
July 17th, 2012 at 10:40 am
#961 –
Here’s your update:
While bloggers lament the demise of last season,
They point to ol’ HueJack as the probable reason;
And as they seek a defensive cure,
They don’t slap their mommas, of that you can be sure!
The Nation of Silver and Black is the best,
We’ve withstood the Haters, we’ve weathered each test;
We may talk of the past and make future predictions,
And it will only feed into our blogging addictions.
But fear not, oh warrior, do not be a mourner –
For a new training camp is just around the corner;
And if you need something to provide you with relief,
Just thank God your not a donkey, a bolt, or a chief!
July 17th, 2012 at 10:40 am
theghostronin79 Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 10:35 am
LOL…..Yeah, that’s the daily around here.
Till we get some NEW stuff to chew on. Bring me CAMP BABY…..Bring me DALLAS.
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So who will get the honor of knocking out Dez Bryant? Bartell, Branch, Burris..etc
July 17th, 2012 at 10:40 am
Seriously? Oh oh…Jermaine O’neal and Artest back again?
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@Hwnrdr
Unrestricted free agent Jermaine O’Neal will work out for the Lakers on Tuesday, a source tells Yahoo! Sports.
The Lakers were rumored to have interest in JO for the veteran’s minimum, and we can’t imagine O’Neal getting a better offer than that if Los Angeles is willing to gamble. O’Neal was limited to just 25 games last season with the Celtics and was said to be previously contemplating retirement. It’s possible he could still be effective in a limited role, but his injury history is a major red flag.
Jul. 17 – 9:16 am et
Source: Marc J. Spears on Twitter
July 17th, 2012 at 10:41 am
Keith Bogans to the Nets.
lol..
July 17th, 2012 at 10:42 am
970
last line – “you’re” (sorry about that!)
July 17th, 2012 at 10:42 am
Kris Humphries get 12 million a year for 2 years.
Russian Billionaire cares not what you think.
July 17th, 2012 at 10:42 am
raidertbone Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 10:40 am
#961 –
Here’s your update:
While bloggers lament the demise of last season,
They point to ol’ HueJack as the probable reason;
And as they seek a defensive cure,
They don’t slap their mommas, of that you can be sure!
The Nation of Silver and Black is the best,
We’ve withstood the Haters, we’ve weathered each test;
We may talk of the past and make future predictions,
And it will only feed into our blogging addictions.
But fear not, oh warrior, do not be a mourner –
For a new training camp is just around the corner;
And if you need something to provide you with relief,
Just thank God your not a donkey, a bolt, or a chief!
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Nice! That is the spirit my friend!
July 17th, 2012 at 10:42 am
Just where is DJ Sully Fresh he seems to have gone missing since we outed him and where are the FBI and CIA there were supposed to arrest me for sending emails to the most dysfunctional inbreed DJ of all time.
July 17th, 2012 at 10:44 am
So who will get the honor of knocking out Dez Bryant? Bartell, Branch, Burris..etc
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Maybe MM34……
July 17th, 2012 at 10:44 am
#977 –
No, that would be the dearly departed “Ricky”!!
July 17th, 2012 at 10:45 am
theghostronin79 Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 10:44 am
So who will get the honor of knocking out Dez Bryant? Bartell, Branch, Burris..etc
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Maybe MM34……
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Could be…I’ll go with Bartell since he may have the duty of covering that weasel Dez.
July 17th, 2012 at 10:45 am
Maybe Commissioner Goodell will get the chance to knock out Dez — however, the players don’t usually get up from those!
July 17th, 2012 at 10:50 am
Maybe MM34……
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Could be…I’ll go with Bartell since he may have the duty of covering that weasel Dez.
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Mitchell has been getting his timing down on those crossing routes, lowers the BOOM, and it’s a pretty thing to watch. Whoever it is, they need a good 15 yard sprint before contact.
July 17th, 2012 at 10:52 am
Maybe even Curry….He’s a Momma’s boy, and a Morale Guy. Bet he takes that seriously
July 17th, 2012 at 10:52 am
939.The Big Banana Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 9:49 am
DJ – I haven’t paid much attention to BSPN lately. What did Clayton say to tick you off?
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It’s not one thing, just what I perceive to be hsi general slant against the Raiders.
Actually there was one thing he said that chapped my buttocks but I can’t remember what it was. Must’ve not been a big deal if I can’t remember it..lol.
I just remember wanting to punch him for saying it. Ha.
July 17th, 2012 at 10:55 am
Raidertbone Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 10:42 am
970
last line – “you’re” (sorry about that!)
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No worries. You’re not the first and you’re certainly not the last. Amazing just how often folks in here use ‘your’ in place of ‘you’re’.
July 17th, 2012 at 10:56 am
Branch is making $8 million this season
the only time MM34 sees the field is when #33 needs a breather [or gets injured]
TB is officially one of “Reggie’s guys” now and #34 isn’t. Mitch has to earn everything, if he can get that knee back to 100%
Going “multiple” now, It will be intesting to see if they bring in an occasional 3rd safety to blitz.
Huff, Branch & Mitchell can all get after the QB
July 17th, 2012 at 10:58 am
79,
Curry reminded me of Seymour last season. God fearing men & noted Bible thumpers. Probably the most likely to knock the piss out of an opponent, but very inconsistent !!
July 17th, 2012 at 10:58 am
theghostronin79 Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 10:52 am
Maybe even Curry….He’s a Momma’s boy, and a Morale Guy. Bet he takes that seriously
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You never know, I’d like it to be Burris..seems like a class kid with family values also.
July 17th, 2012 at 11:07 am
I just hope Dallas is dumb enough to leave their starters in the game, just a tad too long. Then they take a shot from a back-up like Burris or MM and feel really dumb the next day. I could see Garrett doing this.lol
July 17th, 2012 at 11:11 am
Schyt fellas, I love my Momma too! Makes me wanna drive to Dallas, kick Dez in the knee and give his momma a hug.lol
July 17th, 2012 at 11:14 am
Dez’s mother quoted as saying “he tried to kill me”..
For what its worth, his mother does have a really shady background I believe.
July 17th, 2012 at 11:18 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 11:14 am
Dez’s mother quoted as saying “he tried to kill me”..
For what its worth, his mother does have a really shady background I believe.
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Yeah I’ve heard some rumors about that, wish this guy would have just left the scene before hurting her though. Dez won’t last very long in this league imo
July 17th, 2012 at 11:21 am
Dez’s mother quoted as saying “he tried to kill me”..
For what its worth, his mother does have a really shady background I believe.
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@DAV
didnt Jeff Ireland get in hot water for asking if his mom was a prostitute ??
July 17th, 2012 at 11:23 am
She must not be the best mom to raise a douche like Dez, but still doesn’t deserve physical abuse.
July 17th, 2012 at 11:27 am
YO LAKER HOMIES STAND UP N REPRESENT
Word up, the Lakes signing Jamison and O’Neal, then locking up Hill to complete the backcourt bench mob-dizzle
Probably nail down Dwight this week according to my sources, championship banner printing better have started yesterday, holla
Yo, the Purple & Gold be throwin’ up banners until 2015, smoke that doobie and turn up some Huey (Lewis, that is)
Just need to send that Krappy look-alike Stu Lance out to pasture. Homie be illin’
Nash
Kobe
Ron Ron
Pau
Dwight Hizzle
Blakey
Jamison
O’Neal
Hill
Eubanks
Goudelock “Sweet Shot”
Morris the clitoris
McRoberts da Bully
COMIN’ ATCH IN FULL HD
July 17th, 2012 at 11:27 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 11:21 am
Dez’s mother quoted as saying “he tried to kill me”..
For what its worth, his mother does have a really shady background I believe.
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@DAV
didnt Jeff Ireland get in hot water for asking if his mom was a prostitute ??
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Yep, I’m more than sure that did happen.
July 17th, 2012 at 11:27 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 11:21 am
Dez’s mother quoted as saying “he tried to kill me”..
For what its worth, his mother does have a really shady background I believe.
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@DAV
didnt Jeff Ireland get in hot water for asking if his mom was a prostitute ??
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Yep
July 17th, 2012 at 11:32 am
boys, I’m receiving conflicting reports …
my man R8ER MIKE confirms Dez’s mom likes to have her hair pulled, but getting slapped by her son was a “no no”
this kid might have a little Antonio Bryant in him!
July 17th, 2012 at 11:33 am
Cedric Benson on why he isnt signed.. “I have no clue”
Said he’s had check ins from GB & Oak…
July 17th, 2012 at 11:33 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 11:32 am
boys, I’m receiving conflicting reports …
my man R8ER MIKE confirms Dez’s mom likes to have her hair pulled, but getting slapped by her son was a “no no”
this kid might have a little Antonio Bryant in him!
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R8ER MIKE confirms..LMAO
July 17th, 2012 at 11:34 am
Dwight Howard to the Lakers, Beeech Dawg ??
what would they give Orlando?
3-team trade, perhaps?
Houston gets Dwightmare, then trades him to the Lakers in exchange for Bynum (and what else?)
July 17th, 2012 at 11:35 am
Marshawm Lynch, at it again.
July 17th, 2012 at 11:35 am
How bout a yes or no count in here on who wants Benson?
I’ll say NO simply because I don’t think we need him yet.
July 17th, 2012 at 11:36 am
Cedric Benson made it pretty clear he wouldnt accept a vet minimum deal.
July 17th, 2012 at 11:37 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 11:36 am
Cedric Benson made it pretty clear he wouldnt accept a vet minimum deal.
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I wouldn’t be against the signing, but if our guys stay healthy we should be ok imo
July 17th, 2012 at 11:40 am
Cedric Benson made it pretty clear he wouldnt accept a vet minimum deal.
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@DAV
to who and when?
I think you’re thinking of Ryan Grant with Lions!
July 17th, 2012 at 11:40 am
Benson just choked up, teared up & got emotional on air..
July 17th, 2012 at 11:41 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 11:40 am
Cedric Benson made it pretty clear he wouldnt accept a vet minimum deal.
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@DAV
to who and when?
I think you’re thinking of Ryan Grant with Lions!
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No.
He’s on the radio right now.
July 17th, 2012 at 11:42 am
Im for Cedric Benson being signed after that interview.
He’s hungry and wants to beast.
With the right contract of course.
July 17th, 2012 at 11:44 am
According to Vittorio Tafur of the San Francisco Chronicle, the Raiders are “not in any rush” to add a veteran running back.
The Raiders have been linked repeatedly to free agent Cedric Benson, but there’s no obvious sense of urgency to sign a player drawing scant interest elsewhere on the market. Oakland could wait a week or two into camp, and Benson might still be available. We still expect this union to ultimately happen.
Jul. 16 – 12:16 am et
Source: Vittorio Tafur on Twitter
July 17th, 2012 at 11:44 am
Yo, Mitch will pull out something freaky, but according to the Certified Platinum Posse, it’ll get done Inglewood style
Already started warming up the PARTYDUDE 8000, gonna fill it full of Moet Chandon for a championship blow out bikini bash
Probably trick some suckers like Cleveland or Atlanta into unloading picks
Or maybe Bynum and Stu Lance for Howard, straight up Forum Club action, holla
July 17th, 2012 at 11:45 am
Best news of the day is Marshawn Lynch getting a DUI. I’m thinking automatic 4 game suspension and Seattle is going to take Cedric Benson off our hands.
Great question, why isn’t Benson signed already? C’mon Seattle!!!
July 17th, 2012 at 11:46 am
According to Vittorio Tafur of the San Francisco Chronicle, the Raiders are “not in any rush” to add a veteran running back.
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Rockstar,
thanks for the splash of koolaid!
July 17th, 2012 at 11:47 am
He’s on the radio right now.
Cedric Benson made it pretty clear he wouldnt accept a vet minimum deal.
Benson just choked up, teared up & got emotional on air..
Im for Cedric Benson being signed after that interview.
He’s hungry and wants to beast.
With the right contract of course.
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@DAV
G123 reports Benson is gey and he doesnt want dudes like that in our locker room. thoughts??
July 17th, 2012 at 11:47 am
guest123 Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 11:45 am
Best news of the day is Marshawn Lynch getting a DUI. I’m thinking automatic 4 game suspension and Seattle is going to take Cedric Benson off our hands.
Great question, why isn’t Benson signed already? C’mon Seattle!!!
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Doubtful.
They have in-house players to handle it.
July 17th, 2012 at 11:49 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 11:47 am
He’s on the radio right now.
Cedric Benson made it pretty clear he wouldnt accept a vet minimum deal.
Benson just choked up, teared up & got emotional on air..
Im for Cedric Benson being signed after that interview.
He’s hungry and wants to beast.
With the right contract of course.
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@DAV
G123 reports Benson is gey and he doesnt want dudes like that in our locker room. thoughts??
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None.
July 17th, 2012 at 11:50 am
Benson just choked up, teared up & got emotional on air..(Butch kweer!)
He’s hungry and wants to spank the beast. (thuglife)
July 17th, 2012 at 11:50 am
@G123
Seattle may not feel the need to add Benson, especially if it’s only a 4-game suspension for Lynch.
they still have Kregg Lumpkin & Leon Washington. Plus they just drafted Robert Turbin (who a bunch of semi pro’s wanted Reggie to draft!)
July 17th, 2012 at 11:51 am
What would Benson be looking to make this year? 2-3 mil perhaps..idk
July 17th, 2012 at 11:52 am
Cedric Benson is 3rd from the bottom of all RB’s since 2004 in yards per carry and the other two behind him are retired. He is a downgrade of downgrades, and nothing he brings to the table can eclipse our current RB’s. The end.
July 17th, 2012 at 11:53 am
Benson turns 30 in December.
Even if a starting RB from another team gets injured, he’s not going to get more than a 1-year $3 million contract imo
July 17th, 2012 at 11:54 am
I don’t want another RB. But if we go out and get one, I hope we get Ryan Grant. He can still get it done in the ZBS system. He has to lower his salary demands though.
July 17th, 2012 at 11:55 am
Raiders should be fine with DMAC, Goodson, Jones, Reece and Schmidtt…Benson will end up being a last resort for a team who loses their featured back.
July 17th, 2012 at 11:56 am
I think they roll with Turbin. If there is any one position built for a breakout rookie, it’s the RB position. They have the fastest learning curve.
July 17th, 2012 at 11:56 am
guest123 Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 11:54 am
I don’t want another RB. But if we go out and get one, I hope we get Ryan Grant. He can still get it done in the ZBS system. He has to lower his salary demands though.
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Agreed Grant>Benson for the right price
July 17th, 2012 at 11:56 am
TxRaider210 Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 11:55 am
Raiders should be fine with DMAC, Goodson, Jones, Reece and Schmidtt…Benson will end up being a last resort for a team who loses their featured back.
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agree 100
July 17th, 2012 at 11:57 am
I like Ryan Grant, just scary to replace an injury prone guy with another injury prone guy..
July 17th, 2012 at 11:57 am
What would Cedric Benson make this year? Probably 6-9 months, with time served for good behavior.
July 17th, 2012 at 11:58 am
I dont think we really NEED anything that is available on the FA market right now.
Now if someone like Greg Jones from JAX gets cut during camp, im all for it.
July 17th, 2012 at 11:59 am
@G123
I haven’t seen Goodson & Jones in a Knapp offense before. Dont know whether or not they’ll be able to stay healthy, secure the football & deliver on Sundays when their #’s are called
DMAC’s health is another question mark.
the Raiders have already confirmed interest in Benson. That will fade away if these other cats rip it up in training camp & preseason (when they put the pads on)
injury happens? fumbles? lack of ability or desire?
Benson will be on the first plane to Oakland..
July 17th, 2012 at 11:59 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 11:57 am
I like Ryan Grant, just scary to replace an injury prone guy with another injury prone guy..
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Maybe Reg has his eyes on someone(any position) that he thinks won’t make another team’s roster. Should be interesting to see the moves from here on out.
July 17th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
I don’t want another RB. But if we go out and get one, I hope we get Ryan Grant
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@G123
Ryan Grant sucks.
he only scored 2 TD’s in 14 games last year (both against Oakland!)
hasn’t rushed for 100 yards in a game since 2009
July 17th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
Grant turns 30 in December, too
July 17th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
The Dallas fans at work laughed when I said letting Laurent Robinson go was dumb…Dez already in trouble, any issues for Austin this year and they’re done imo. Love to watch Jerry Jones do retarted schit year after year.
July 17th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
a RB turning 30 is like a QB turning 40 imo
even the best RB’s in the league get cut when they turn 30 … LaDainian Tomlinson for example
San Diego had no use for him at that stage in his career
July 17th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
he only scored 2 TD’s in 14 games last year (both against Oakland!)
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Maybe it’s only because I only watch Raider games. He made Boyd and CJ37 look silly and McCheese was his usual lost self on the way to the end zone. If you load up his Raider highlights, dude looks like an AllPro!
July 17th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
Retarded= my typing today lol
July 17th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
@Tx
Laurent Robinson didn’t develop until his 5th year in the NFL (with his 4th team)
Maybe there is hope for Louis Murphy after all ??
July 17th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
a RB turning 30 is like a QB turning 40 imo
even the best RB’s in the league get cut when they turn 30 … LaDainian Tomlinson for example
San Diego had no use for him at that stage in his career
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Explain Emmitt Smith, Explain Curtis Martin please
July 17th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
Maybe it’s only because I only watch Raider games. He made Boyd and CJ37 look silly and McCheese was his usual lost self on the way to the end zone. If you load up his Raider highlights, dude looks like an AllPro!
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agreed, G123
remember: the Raiders used to make Ron Dayne look like Earl Campbell and William Green (Cleveland) looked like Jim Brown against us
remember Slaton & Ward (Texans) in 2010?
July 17th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
@Tx
Laurent Robinson didn’t develop until his 5th year in the NFL (with his 4th team)
Maybe there is hope for Louis Murphy after all ??
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I hear ya man, but 11 TD’s for him and led the team, I’d have kept the guy around. Murphy still has game if he stays healthy, wouldn’t mind him making the roster.
July 17th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
Guys, the whole running back issue is moot. DMAC is only 24 yo, coming into his prime. He has no injuries that are chronic in nature. He’s going to have a beastly season with 2000+ total yards from scrimage and 20+ TD’s. Take my word for it. The backups will have to pick wood slivers out of their butts.
DMAC will contend for NFL MVP.
Write It Down!
July 17th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
Trade Murphy to Dallas for Jenkins? lol..
July 17th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
remember Slaton & Ward (Texans) in 2010?
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UGH! Don’t remind me!
July 17th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
guest123 Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
Guys, the whole running back issue is moot. DMAC is only 24 yo, coming into his prime. He has no injuries that are chronic in nature. He’s going to have a beastly season with 2000+ total yards from scrimage and 20+ TD’s. Take my word for it. The backups will have to pick wood slivers out of their butts.
DMAC will contend for NFL MVP.
Write It Down!
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He certainly does have the skills to do so, I’m ready for a great year from DMAC, as is everyone!
July 17th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
Benson: Yeah, making $7M a year and having a roomate, posing with your roomate with bottles of white wine…Don’t care if he is and especially if it gets the Raiders a discount!
http://www.tmz.com/2011/07/21/cincinnati-bengals-running-back-cedric-benson-roommate-fight-beating-attack-clavens-charles-police-report-arrest-bloody-face-photo/
July 17th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
There’s room for 6 WR’s, and I could see Murph making the team for his special teams play alone. But he’s on the roster bubble and needs to get healthy soon or else he could have the decision made for him.
July 17th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
One thing for sure, he’d make instant friends with little #12 if we signed him.
July 17th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
What is Murphy worth? 4th or 5th?
July 17th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
Emmitt Smith was 26 years old when the Cowboys won the Super Bowl versus Pittsburgh Steelers.
stayed in Dallas until age 33.
no Pro Bowls after the age 30, though
after age 30, Smith couldn’t crack 4 yards per carry. barely cracked 1,000 yards once in his last 4 seasons
July 17th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
Benson: Yeah, making $7M a year and having a roomate, posing with your roomate with bottles of white wine…Don’t care if he is and especially if it gets the Raiders a discount!
http://www.tmz.com/2011/07/21/cincinnati-bengals-running-back-cedric-benson-roommate-fight-beating-attack-clavens-charles-police-report-arrest-bloody-face-photo/
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Dang I’ve never seen that picture, with the cheap wine.lol Yeah fk Benson, no wonder nobody wants the guy on their team.
July 17th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
What is Murphy worth? 4th or 5th?
*****
ANS: Realistically nothing. Not to be mean, but other teams know he’s on the bubble, and will wait patiently for waivers if they want him.
July 17th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
@G123
Curtis Martin at 31 years old (2004 season) was a thing of beauty. you got me there!
2005 season he only started 12 games, averaged 3.3 ypc, scored 5 TD’s and then couldn’t survive training camp cuts in 2006, LOL
so what you’re saying is, Benson could potentially give us 2 or 3 great years ??
sign him up, Reggie!
July 17th, 2012 at 12:25 pm
so what you’re saying is, Benson could potentially give us 2 or 3 great years ??
sign him up, Reggie!
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LMAO
July 17th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
What is Murphy worth? 4th or 5th?
*****
ANS: Realistically nothing. Not to be mean, but other teams know he’s on the bubble, and will wait patiently for waivers if they want him.
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Yeah, unless he tears it up in preseason and a team would not be able to get him on waivers. But more than likely, you are right…
July 17th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
G123 made me to all that homework on Martin & Smith, to prove they fell off at 31 years old (instead of 30) and then makes no reply??
YOU PEOPLE!
July 17th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
G123 made me to all that homework on Martin & Smith, to prove they fell off at 31 years old (instead of 30) and then makes no reply??
YOU PEOPLE!
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I should have said all along I agree with you that RB’s after 30 yo are garbage. I was just playing DA and throwing you a curveball. You sliced a double down the line. Good job!
July 17th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
some WR’s are just late bloomers.
Laurent Robinson isn’t the only example. Brandon Lloyd is another guy.
what do they have in common?
they both sucked when they played for the Rams!
July 17th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
So we should sign Danny Amendola next year in free agency?
July 17th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
Reggie basically traded a broken pez dispenser for Mike Goodson.
he’s an average runner & blocker. terrible pass catcher with questionable ball security.
on top of that, he was injured last season.
but hey, since he’s a Raider we all think he’s gonna be great. better than Benson or Bush!
JFB called it from Day 1 – he’s our replacement for Rock Cartwright, not “twinkle toes”
July 17th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
So we should sign Danny Amendola next year in free agency?
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I think he’d pass, if he saw #55 in the hallway on his FA visit
is Nick Miller “White Webster” a FA, yet?
July 17th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
967.hwnrdr Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 10:36 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 10:27 am
Lakers adding Jamison & O’Neal.
Seriously? Oh oh…Jermaine O’neal and Artest back again?
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Just heard that the Lakers are interested in veteran C Ric Smits and veteran G Mark Jackson as well.
July 17th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
Did that Russian billionaire threaten to kill Dwight Howard’s family if he didn’t end up with the Nets or something?
July 17th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
he’s an average runner & blocker. terrible pass catcher with questionable ball security.
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Where’d you get this scouting report? I’ve heard he’s above avg as a runner and receiver. Can be a 3 down back and isn’t a liability blocking. Grades out well at PFF and other sites. Only issue is a big question mark and that is his fumbling.
I think you are way off the mark in your analysis of Goodson.
July 17th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
Dakota Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
Did that Russian billionaire threaten to kill Dwight Howard’s family if he didn’t end up with the Nets or something?
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No that was Alonzo from Training Day.
July 17th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
guest123 Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
he’s an average runner & blocker. terrible pass catcher with questionable ball security.
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Where’d you get this scouting report? I’ve heard he’s above avg as a runner and receiver. Can be a 3 down back and isn’t a liability blocking. Grades out well at PFF and other sites. Only issue is a big question mark and that is his fumbling.
I think you are way off the mark in your analysis of Goodson.
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*Grabs Popcorn*
July 17th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
So if Benson is ____? Wouldn’t that be a good thing for sellouts? Since we are in the Bay Area? We could still have the Black Hole and create a whole new section? The Brown Hole? He would be the Bay Area’s Jeremy Lin? Bunch of Angry Bears running around in Silver and Black?
July 17th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
If it turns out that Andrew Bynum is preventing a deal for the Lakers to get Dwight Howard by being unwilling to re-sign with the Magic, he is going to be hunted down in the streets and beaten by the folks from the upper decks of Staples.
July 17th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
I think he’d pass, if he saw #55 in the hallway on his FA visit
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Oh yeah, those are his two signature plays, eating up skinny white boys on the Rams. That was Hue’s “build a bully” program. #55 kicking arse and taking names.
July 17th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
Dakota Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
If it turns out that Andrew Bynum is preventing a deal for the Lakers to get Dwight Howard by being unwilling to re-sign with the Magic, he is going to be hunted down in the streets and beaten by the folks from the upper decks of Staples.
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That’s where it stands right now.
July 17th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
So if Benson is ____? Wouldn’t that be a good thing for sellouts? Since we are in the Bay Area? We could still have the Black Hole and create a whole new section? The Brown Hole? He would be the Bay Area’s Jeremy Lin? Bunch of Angry Bears running around in Silver and Black?
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Lmao Dutch!
July 17th, 2012 at 12:59 pm
I don’t care if Cedric Benson likes men, as long as he leaves McFadden alone!
Wait….that sounds kind ____ doesn’t it?
July 17th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
Lakers get: Dwight Howard, Glen Davis
Rockets get: Andrew Bynum, Jason Richardson, Chris Duhon, Josh McRoberts
Magic get: Kevin Martin, Devin Ebanks, Jeremy Lamb, Chandler Parsons, Terrence Jones, Royce White TOR & HOU 1st round pick,
July 17th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
Cedric Benson has to be freaking out right now.
If no team picks him up he makes NO $$$.
Nervous times for Mr. Benson.
July 17th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
I’d rather see them pick up a good CB I think. Or a LB.
July 17th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
Cedric Benson has to be freaking out right now.
If no team picks him up he makes NO $$$.
Nervous times for Mr. Benson.
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@DJG
depends on whether or not Benson was wise with his money. If he took the Terrell Owens / Allen Iverson route, he could be playing in the UFL next season. Ryan Grant refusing to play for the Lions @ vet minimum was stupid imo. Play for a playoff team and get 2 revenge games against the team that just cut you!
Both of these guys might be taking handoffs from Daunte Culpepper or JP Losman, lol
if there is an offer on the table – take it!
July 17th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
Cedric Benson has to be freaking out right now.
If no team picks him up he makes NO $$$.
Nervous times for Mr. Benson.
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He may have to kick out the roommate and downgrade to a studio here pretty soon..
July 17th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
Allen Iverson acutally isnt in money problems as reported on BSPN.
He has 60+ million put away in a trust that he gets annual checks on.
He gets it all in lump at a certain age too.
July 17th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
Lin is a Rocket.
July 17th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
@DAV
what do you predict for the Clippers next season?
another 2nd round exit?
reppin’ the West versus Miami in the Finals?
July 17th, 2012 at 1:34 pm
Yo, Dwight should be flying into LB by the end of the week, sizing up beachfront in Hermosa
Word is homie wants a 20 ft jacuzzi with water features. Dem hizzies will get straight up SILLY
Beeeech Dawg sources are reporting it’ll be a 5 year deal, that’s at least 3 rings and 4 MVPs
Nash, Howard, Jamison, O’Neal – best offseason since I smoked a bowl with Kool Moe Dee on South Padre Island, Spring Break ‘87
YOU KNOW THAT’S HOW THEM BIG DAWGS BARK
July 17th, 2012 at 1:34 pm
Lin is a Rocket.
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Does that make it more or less likely Howard will join him in Houston ??
July 17th, 2012 at 1:36 pm
“Allen Iverson acutally isnt in money problems as reported on BSPN.
He has 60+ million put away in a trust that he gets annual checks on.
He gets it all in lump at a certain age too.”
If you believe that I have some Florida swamp land I want to sell you!
July 17th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 1:34 pm
Lin is a Rocket.
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Does that make it more or less likely Howard will join him in Houston ??
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Might effect the pieces involved, but not greatly.
July 17th, 2012 at 1:39 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 1:36 pm
“Allen Iverson acutally isnt in money problems as reported on BSPN.
He has 60+ million put away in a trust that he gets annual checks on.
He gets it all in lump at a certain age too.”
If you believe that I have some Florida swamp land I want to sell you!
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I think you got the point of those sayings wrong..
But anywho..
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/more_sports/iverson_isn_broke_down_o9flvhfTwhRD1lNMWBFuyJ
July 17th, 2012 at 1:41 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
@DAV
what do you predict for the Clippers next season?
another 2nd round exit?
reppin’ the West versus Miami in the Finals?
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3rd in the West most likely..
Although Dallas got younger & better..
Spurs always dangerous, but a year older.
July 17th, 2012 at 1:41 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
So if Benson is ____? Wouldn’t that be a good thing for sellouts? Since we are in the Bay Area? We could still have the Black Hole and create a whole new section? The Brown Hole?
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LMFAO!
July 17th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
and Blatche gets the amnesty.
Birdman possibly next.
July 17th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
So I was right he only has 30 million left not 60 like you said so……you want to buy that swamp land or not?
July 17th, 2012 at 1:44 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
So I was right he only has 30 million left not 60 like you said so……you want to buy that swamp land or not?
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Yea. I saw that.. But you got the point.
July 17th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
But there IS swamp land in Florida…lol..
July 17th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
Brahs just drank a XL cherry slurpee and now my turd pies are bright red
Looks like I just dropped a few radioactive Twinkies in the punch bowl
Had to clean out the pipes, headed to Olive Garden for some Chianti and fresh Italiano linguine and need max capacity.
Had no idea the classic slurpee was better than liquid Drano. This is definitely a 20-wipe job
BIG UPS TO SUGE KNIGHT, REPRESENT
July 17th, 2012 at 1:48 pm
If Kupchak adds Jamison, O’Neal, and Brandon Rush I’d be pretty effin impressed.
July 17th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
J Hill Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 1:48 pm
If Kupchak adds Jamison, O’Neal, and Brandon Rush I’d be pretty effin impressed.
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W’s wont let Rush leave..
July 17th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
“But there IS swamp land in Florida…lol..”
LMAO not sure just being an ass and I know I didn’t even get the saying right so you got me.
July 17th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
“But there IS swamp land in Florida…lol..”
LMAO not sure just being an ass and I know I didn’t even get the saying right so you got me.
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LOL..
Touche my friend..
July 17th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
Tony parker only has 1 eye
July 17th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
Rush is there for the taking if we want ‘em
Gots to bow down to the Purple & Gold flag, pledge your allegiance
Pretty sure we’ll sign the Birdman next, he & Dwight will bring Ho Time back to Show Time
July 17th, 2012 at 1:58 pm
“W’s wont let Rush leave..”
Canada wont let RUSH leave.
Great band!
July 17th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
W’s wont let Rush leave..
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Is he a RFA?
Chatter is a sign and trade.
Jerry West won’t deal with the Lakers?
July 17th, 2012 at 2:00 pm
Doesn’t Birdman have some pending Federal sex charges to deal with?
July 17th, 2012 at 2:01 pm
J Hill Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
W’s wont let Rush leave..
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Is he a RFA?
Chatter is a sign and trade.
Jerry West won’t deal with the Lakers?
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W’s saying they will match any offer. Want to keep him.
July 17th, 2012 at 2:03 pm
Mayo was a good grab
July 17th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
This is our QB making a read at the LOS!
http://mit.zenfs.com/209/2011/10/yahoo_palmer_raiders.jpg
July 17th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
Hells yeah, the Beeech Dawg approves of Mayo
Puttin’ the USC & UCLA boyz in the same back court, So Cal represent Lone Star swizzle
The BirdDawg might have a little Sandusky in him, but as least he’s not a deranged stalker like KrappyRat
Think I saw the old fool chasing Bubba Paris around a Chuck E Cheese last weekend, holla
July 17th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
Great story. Chris Henry’s donated organs save 4 lives.
July 17th, 2012 at 2:33 pm
One problem with Benson is I doubt he is a special teams value/contributor. That’s key when determining roster spots….
July 17th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
JLofty Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 2:33 pm
One problem with Benson is I doubt he is a special teams value/contributor. That’s key when determining roster spots….
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Neither did Bush.
July 17th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
True DAV but when calculating what value you are getting from your 5-6 rbs, one has to consider Goodsen’s ST (if any) vs. Bensons. I know the FB’s are usually on the field in ST….
July 17th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
JLofty Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
True DAV but when calculating what value you are getting from your 5-6 rbs, one has to consider Goodsen’s ST (if any) vs. Bensons. I know the FB’s are usually on the field in ST….
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Yea for sure.
Goodsen & Jones will play STs.. Along with Schmitt
I think Benson wont have to be able to..IMO
July 17th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
But didn’t you say Benson would maybe be competing for Goodsen’s roster spot? I’m guessing they’ll keep Jones around to see what they can do with his speed…
July 17th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
JLofty Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
But didn’t you say Benson would maybe be competing for Goodsen’s roster spot? I’m guessing they’ll keep Jones around to see what they can do with his speed…
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No,
DMC
Benson
Goodsen
Jones
Reece
Schmitt
All make the roster.
July 17th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
Yes, its Goodson..
thought something looked off.
July 17th, 2012 at 2:53 pm
Yeah that looks okay by me. I was starting to wonder who is going to play STs since the receivers are starting to get a little older, more valuable, and haven’t exactly shown resilience in staying on the field. Coupled with the somewhat shortage of LBs and branch now making big $$ thought we might run of special team guys….its July, I am OVERTHINKING it….;-)
July 17th, 2012 at 3:01 pm
Yes it’s July, but less than 2 weeks till camp. This is the worst time for OVER Annalysis…..Everything will change once we start getting camp reports and some preseason footage to pour over.
July 17th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
Orlando’s taking forever.. Just do it. Do it..
July 17th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
Marks hair Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
Orlando’s taking forever.. Just do it. Do it..
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Man I wish this was over already too.
But for my teams sake, have to go thru the process & get the best deal..
July 17th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
Orlando can bite my nads
They’re nothing more than the Laker’s farm team, shout out to SuperBrah Shaq Dawg
Gotta finish this deal up so we can start engraving our next banner.
Thankfully I’ve got a few cases of Moet Chandon and Magnum condoms reserved already at Costco
BEEEECH DIGGITY REPRESENT
July 17th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
We need a new post
July 17th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
Orlando can bite my nads
They’re nothing more than the Laker’s farm team, shout out to SuperBrah Shaq Dawg
Gotta finish this deal up so we can start engraving our next banner.
Thankfully I’ve got a few cases of Moet Chandon and Magnum condoms reserved already at Costco
BEEEECH DIGGITY REPRESENT
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Ohhh… THATS why your breath smells like champagne & latex..
Go Magic.
July 17th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
Screw Cedric Benson.
The only thing Reggie & Company should be doing is getting their hands on the NEW IPAD DIGITAL PLAYBOOKS that 3 NFL teams already currently have ready to go for the season…
The longer we wait the further behind we will be…
July 17th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
Here is the link.
http://www.digitalplaybooks.com/
July 17th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
RAAIIDDEERRRSS!!
July 17th, 2012 at 3:19 pm
Grant hill likes $$ more than titles.. Fk him
July 17th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
Marks hair Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 3:19 pm
Grant hill likes $$ more than titles.. Fk him
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I know, thought he should have signed with Miami or OKC too.
July 17th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
This is killin me. Need to get this party started. Too many 1000+ comment posts.
July 17th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
I think we can learn football without an ipad….
July 17th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
Orlando is acting like a pathetic dude who just found out his girl is way too hot for him….and is desperately trying to woo her into staying with him.
Ain’t going to happen.
Pull the trigger and move on.
July 17th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
Tampa Bay Bucs using IPAD
http://www.tampabay.com/sports/football/bucs/article1187879.ece
July 17th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
Denver Broncos using IPAD PLAYBOOK
http://www.msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/peyton-manning-denver-broncos-embrace-ipad-playbook-070512
July 17th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
Bengals using IPAD
http://www.profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/06/15/bengals-join-the-ipad-playbook-movement/
July 17th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
Make that 4 teams….Dolphins just signed up too!
Miami Dolphins
http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Daily/Issues/2012/06/20/Franchises/Dolphins.aspx
July 17th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
The thunder had their chance, and they let down the west. We are now going back to showtime..
July 17th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
1130.backstageatapuppetshow Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
Denver Broncos using IPAD PLAYBOOK
http://www.msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/peyton-manning-denver-broncos-embrace-ipad-playbook-070512
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Too bad Al isn’t still alive….there is a great etch a sketch joke in there somewhere.
July 17th, 2012 at 3:25 pm
Oh no! Gotta keep up with the dolphins!
July 17th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
Why would the Lakers want Grany Hill with Artest still on the team?
Ebanks is getting minutes this season.
July 17th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
1133.Marks hair Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
The thunder had their chance, and they let down the west. We are now going back to showtime..
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Should have known since the Lakers should have been up 3-1 on them in that series. Thunder let the entire world down by allowing LeBron to get a ring.
July 17th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
1136.J Hill Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
Why would the Lakers want Grany Hill with Artest still on the team?
Ebanks is getting minutes this season.
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We have a 1-2 year windo with Nash and Kobe….not the time to hope Ebanks can step it up. Grant Hill would have been great coming off the bench. Ebanks gave us next to nothing.
July 17th, 2012 at 3:30 pm
Not 1 NBA team has done anything this off-season to dethrone Miami or OKC.
July 17th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
Marks hair Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 3:25 pm
Oh no! Gotta keep up with the dolphins!
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The Dolphins kicked our asses last season….”MARK” my words my friend…this technology will be used by every team in the league with 2 years….
WRITE THAT DOWN
The longer we hold out…the further behind we will be…
July 17th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
People think Houston is going after Dwight Howard to win a title?? NOPE.
They know either way, that they arent winning one. So why not sell tickets and merchandise during the process of NOT winning a title.
July 17th, 2012 at 3:33 pm
The Lakers, Thunder & Nets are the only teams that will win a title with Dwight Howard.
July 17th, 2012 at 3:34 pm
Not 1 NBA team has done anything this off-season to dethrone Miami or OKC.
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Lakers sign Jamison and O’Neal, OKC is out.
July 17th, 2012 at 3:34 pm
@backstageatapuppetshow
When do you think the first instance of someone hacking a IPAD to get an opponents’ playbook will happen? Or allegations of it?
Will it be the Pats?
July 17th, 2012 at 3:34 pm
The Rockets know that if Olajuwan & McHale cant convince Dwight to stay, they can always send him to Brooklyn for Lopez, Humphries & Brooks.
Win-win situation for them.
July 17th, 2012 at 3:35 pm
J Hill Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 3:34 pm
Not 1 NBA team has done anything this off-season to dethrone Miami or OKC.
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Lakers sign Jamison and O’Neal, OKC is out.
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In 2005, yes.
2012-2013, no.
July 17th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
Miami had their way paved to the finals with the Howard and Rose injuries, and still almost lost to an old Celtics team.
OKC should have been down 3-1 in the semi-finals, and then showed they were not ready for the big times in the finals.
Those two teams are not insurmountable.
Smart money is on Miami taking a breath and relaxing after winning a ring, just like they did in 07.
The Bulls, Lakers or Spurs could easily end up in the finals next year.
July 17th, 2012 at 3:37 pm
“Go Magic”
That’s what this wasted stripper said when she was riding the Beeech Lawg
Get it, she was basically saying my weiner is amazing
Honestly though, Brahs, we need Orlando to keep a team in the NBA. Otherwise we won’t have a farm system to keep delivering Hall of Fame centers to the Purple & Gold
Yo, the Lexus Luxury Box will be going OFF this season, my ding dong is already hella pumped
July 17th, 2012 at 3:38 pm
1145.DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 3:34 pm
The Rockets know that if Olajuwan & McHale cant convince Dwight to stay, they can always send him to Brooklyn for Lopez, Humphries & Brooks.
Win-win situation for them.
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Rockets have been looking for a top 20 NBA player for the past three years and you think they will be okay with settling for Lopez, Humphries and Brooks and destroying any chance they have at signing any big name free agent?
July 17th, 2012 at 3:39 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 3:34 pm
@backstageatapuppetshow
When do you think the first instance of someone hacking a IPAD to get an opponents’ playbook will happen? Or allegations of it?
Will it be the Pats?
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If and when it does happen….we heard it from you first Dutch…..
Good Talk
July 17th, 2012 at 3:40 pm
Dakota Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
Miami had their way paved to the finals with the Howard and Rose injuries, and still almost lost to an old Celtics team.
OKC should have been down 3-1 in the semi-finals, and then showed they were not ready for the big times in the finals.
Those two teams are not insurmountable.
Smart money is on Miami taking a breath and relaxing after winning a ring, just like they did in 07.
The Bulls, Lakers or Spurs could easily end up in the finals next year.
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Rose isnt expected to play until the end of the season.
Deng isnt expected back til after the all-star break at the earliest.
Safe to say the Bulls are out next year.
OKC got a years worth of experience. Their core got better.
The Spurs or Lakers havent done anything to beat them.
Laker fans can say they should have been up 3-1 all they want. They werent.
Add Dwight, then we can talk Finals.
July 17th, 2012 at 3:40 pm
Gotta run!
July 17th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
1140. In 2 yrs that technology will be 10 yrs old.. And still over hyped..
July 17th, 2012 at 3:42 pm
Dakota Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 3:38 pm
1145.DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 3:34 pm
The Rockets know that if Olajuwan & McHale cant convince Dwight to stay, they can always send him to Brooklyn for Lopez, Humphries & Brooks.
Win-win situation for them.
++++++++++++
Rockets have been looking for a top 20 NBA player for the past three years and you think they will be okay with settling for Lopez, Humphries and Brooks and destroying any chance they have at signing any big name free agent?
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Can you give me a % on their chances of doing that now?
(signing a big name)
July 17th, 2012 at 3:42 pm
Rose is out that long? Never mind about the Bulls!
July 17th, 2012 at 3:43 pm
The thunder dont impress me.. And the heat shoulnt have even been there..
July 17th, 2012 at 3:43 pm
Just remembered the W’s used their amnesty on Charlie Bell last year. WOW.
Beidrins…
July 17th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
Marks hair Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 3:43 pm
The thunder dont impress me.. And the heat shoulnt have even been there..
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Of course not, your a Laker fan.
July 17th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
“The New York Giants?..not impressed” – Laker fans
July 17th, 2012 at 3:45 pm
“Usain Bolt?…not that fast” – Laker fans
July 17th, 2012 at 3:45 pm
Marks hair Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
1140. In 2 yrs that technology will be 10 yrs old.. And still over hyped..
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True….the IPAD will be out dated….but the software will not….
July 17th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
“Cal Ripken got lucky to play all those games” – Laker fans
July 17th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
By then…they’ll have an APP on their phones for it….
July 17th, 2012 at 3:47 pm
“Kevin Durant?…he’s an OK scorer” – Laker fans
July 17th, 2012 at 3:47 pm
Win a title get respect.. Lose to the lebrons, with an injured dwade. Not so much… I cant think of a recent champ they could beat..
July 17th, 2012 at 3:47 pm
12 mil a year for Kris Humphries????
WOW!
July 17th, 2012 at 3:47 pm
LOL.. ok im out for the day fellas.
Its all jokes homies.
God Bless.
July 17th, 2012 at 3:49 pm
1163 by then hackers will steal your playbooks digitally..
July 17th, 2012 at 3:51 pm
Marks hair Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 3:49 pm
1163 by then hackers will steal your playbooks digitally..
____________________________________________
“Suspicion haunts the guilty mind”
July 17th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
Marks hair Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 3:49 pm
1163 by then hackers will steal your playbooks digitally..
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Could be some crazy schit..or a player leaves the ipad somewhere…ooops
July 17th, 2012 at 3:54 pm
IPAD has the technology built into it to delete files from a remote computer…and a built in GPS into it should a player lose it…
July 17th, 2012 at 3:54 pm
backstageatapuppetshow Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 3:51 pm
Marks hair Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 3:49 pm
1163 by then hackers will steal your playbooks digitally..
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“Suspicion haunts the guilty mind”
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Then Goodell could start fining players for “porn on their pad”
July 17th, 2012 at 4:03 pm
Afternoon Raider fans! Gotta question. A guy I work with, and happens to be a Tampa Bay fan, told me he wants to see the game in Oakland and wanted to know should he sport his Bucs gear or not. This guy is is nice kid, about 23.. a strong Christian and training in MMA.. in other words not one to start trouble, but able to take care of himself.
My answer was if you’re alone, go undercover.. if you’re with Raider fans, you’re our guest go ahead and wear it, but expect some ribbing.
Opinions?
July 17th, 2012 at 4:10 pm
a strong Christian and training in MMA.. in other words not one to start trouble, but able to take care of himself.
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Lol.
July 17th, 2012 at 4:10 pm
but expect some ribbing
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that sounds about fair, after the Raiders whoop TB
July 17th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
Breaking news:
Lodger Goodell
-”If you guys wanna be turds on the field..Fine, just don’t phuk with the Ipads!!”
July 17th, 2012 at 4:28 pm
Per NPR, NBA Players are going to be automatically inroled in Retirement plans this year.
July 17th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
@PlunkforHOF
Also depends on where you are sitting. Highly recommend the club level! For the bathrooms alone, usually no wait! Also the bar area and the couches are pretty cool, you can get updates from the other games.
July 17th, 2012 at 4:33 pm
A “Strong Christian” shouldn’t have trouble sitting anywhere. Lol.
July 17th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
Anyone going to the game in ATL this year? I’m planning that one and maybe a home game, if I’m lucky enough.
July 17th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
I would like to thank god for giving me the strength to bash peoples skulls in. Somehow I think the philosophy is misinterpreted.
July 17th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
I’m a strong Christian, but still don’t know about getting a Bartell jersey for the Atlanta game..ouch!
July 17th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
1173. Kinda dumb.. I saw raider fans savagely strip & beat a kc fan in la.
July 17th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
south oakland was refered to as hell on tv last nite
July 17th, 2012 at 5:02 pm
1173. Kinda dumb.. I saw raider fans savagely strip & beat a kc fan in la.
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They took off his clothes and then beat him up? I could see the beat and strip, just not the strip and beat? Unless it is a The Beeech Dawg post…
July 17th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
Hmm, punch, strip, punch kick, kick kick, punch punch kick.. it was pretty crazy. I was like 13.. He did end up naked & bloody..
July 17th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
But he didnt need a stretcher. So that was good..
July 17th, 2012 at 5:55 pm
The Coli in Oakland isn’t quite like the Coli in Watts circa mid 80s early 90s. Heck it isn’t even like it was in the mid-90s when Da RAIDAHS returned…
Plunk I think he’s probably ok. The trick is no mouthing off and definately be with Raider fans. Who also aren’t prone to mouthing off…
I’ve seen a LOT less trouble at the Coli in recent years. I think the team has done a fine job at removing the bad apples and getting after the ones that pop up suddenly.
July 17th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
south Oakland?
Who let the hipster douche in.
July 17th, 2012 at 7:48 pm
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July 17th, 2012 at 7:51 pm
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July 17th, 2012 at 8:00 pm
I’ll bet u dollars to donuts (love those grandpa sayings) that South side of Chicago is more “hellish” than South Oakland.
Is that a real place?
July 17th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
South Oakland is the water. But I’ll bet some hipster douches renamed some part of East Oakland “south Oakland” while listening to Foster The People.
July 17th, 2012 at 8:14 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 8:00 pm
I’ll bet u dollars to donuts (love those grandpa sayings) that South side of Chicago is more “hellish” than South Oakland.
Is that a real place?
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I know Geno’s Pizza in Downtown Chitown is a for real place. Deep dish pizza there blows the lid right off your can. That pizza there is flat out legit. Just thinkin about that pie makes me feel like eatin the north end of a south bound skunk.
July 17th, 2012 at 8:15 pm
Foster the People has become bigger than I thought…I think first time I heard of them was on NPR.
July 17th, 2012 at 8:17 pm
Thanks Mr. Green.
I was actually asking if South Oakand was a real place.
I agree with you on Geno’s…good stuff.
July 17th, 2012 at 9:27 pm
Speaking of Chicago, their new GM Phil Emory was actually their 3rd (or more) choice. You know what their first was? You guessed it..Reggie McKenzie.
They would never admit that, but he was all the talk on the radio before we snapped him up.
They wanted to “steal” him from GB…at least the wide majority of fans did.
I think if Reggie had wanted to come to Chi. he could have.
Only time will tell whether GB’s success was more Reggie or Ted Thompson; not to suggest the Packers success can be attributed solely to either of them, but we can be fairly certain that GB is an org. which is committed to putting a winning team on the field.
Green Bay Wisconsin is not the most desirable destination..or locale for an aspiring young football player, yet they are able to consistently attract good players. I realize not many actually live there, but they have created an atmosphere where guys wanna come there despite the cold weather and small town atmosphere.
They kept Reggie around all those yrs. for a reason.
July 17th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
If Bears are interested in Reggie McKenzie, they may have to move fast
By Sean Jensen on January 4, 2012 9:03 AM
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Comments:
Papa Bear | January 4, 2012 9:57 AM | Reply
Bring him in, I hate the Packers and this would would up grade our drafts real nice!
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Carl | January 4, 2012 12:45 PM | Reply
Why can’t they hire him now? The packers don’t need him right now.
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Creighton | January 4, 2012 2:15 PM | Reply
I don’t know Sean, Reggie McKenzie would be a good choice but don’t you think he will get a better offer? The GM position for the Bears basically consists of giving Lovie half the GM powers, not bringing in your own coach and basically having little say it what happens with the team. They want a top guy who will find them top talent in the draft but don’t want to give him full GM powers. The most attractive piece in Chicago is Jay Cutler, but Lovie probably will not attract a big name GM or a top talent OC. He has already tossed three of them under the bus and gets no blame for the offensive woes under his regime. Does that seem like a great job not to mention Reggie McKenzie is a Packer he has had a close up look at the Bears, do you think he wants to be stuck in a division competing against the Packers when he would not have full pwer to do what he wants. There are plenty of GM jobs out there where they will get their own coach and full GM powers.
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ryan | January 4, 2012 2:41 PM | Reply
Sounds good to me. Anyone under the Ron Wolf regime has done well with scouting both the draft and free agents.
I hope the Bears go for him.
July 17th, 2012 at 9:41 pm
That’s a wrap for the DJ Johnny show. Thx for joining me. It’s been brought to you by the fine folks at Massengill. Like Mr. T says “I pity the fool who doesn’t use…Massengill. Stay fresh fool”.
July 17th, 2012 at 9:43 pm
mr.green: still working on that Raider logo?
July 17th, 2012 at 10:35 pm
Los mal ojos Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 9:43 pm
mr.green: still working on that Raider logo?
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Yes. A most certainly difficult thing to take to task. ˙ʇı ןןǝɯs uɐɔ I ǝʌǝıןǝq I ʇnq sǝpıᴚʇs ןןɐɯs ƃuıʞɐɯ ɯɐ I ‘ǝǝs uɐɔ noʎ sɐ ʇnq◄
July 17th, 2012 at 11:22 pm
The Dark Knight Rise receiving rave and masterpiece reviews.
Opens this weekend! Yes!
July 18th, 2012 at 3:17 am
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July 18th, 2012 at 5:34 am
LOL at the Dodgers.
6-20 over their last 26 games, worst in baseball.
Toast
July 18th, 2012 at 5:46 am
Not much from the nite crew. My favorite post was the happy face thumbs up code. Yeah! Like that! Nice way to start a day.
Good Morning Nation!
July 18th, 2012 at 5:51 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Nothing new yet huh?
July 18th, 2012 at 5:53 am
GUEST.LESS IS MORE FROM THE NITE CREW SOMETIMES…
July 18th, 2012 at 5:56 am
How much of a bummer is that first day of camp going to be?
We get all revved up, “Camp is here!!!”, then the first day is mostly a dud, with no practice, half the team arriving late and not giving quotes, etc.
Things REALLY get going like 2 weeks from today.
July 18th, 2012 at 5:59 am
Really, the next two weeks excitement is waiting on and crossing fingers that our boys don’t get into off-field trouble like others around the league. It seems quiet time is not a good thing for some less-settled, immature minds.
This whole 6 week on your own hiatus is not a good thing. The players themselves are proving they aren’t mature to handle themselves. They need a drill sargeant to keep them from hurting themselves. Youth of today can’t handle too much liberty with too much money.
July 18th, 2012 at 6:01 am
Dirt-Lot, I agree. Nice peaceful night is good for all.
July 18th, 2012 at 6:01 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 18th, 2012 at 5:56 am
How much of a bummer is that first day of camp going to be?
We get all revved up, “Camp is here!!!”, then the first day is mostly a dud, with no practice, half the team arriving late and not giving quotes, etc.
Things REALLY get going like 2 weeks from today.
Agreed! I guess more will be 26 days from today!
July 18th, 2012 at 6:09 am
Hey Guest, Dirt Lot…I guess we are going to the Raider Nation Celebration! Talked to my friend last night who goes to the games with me and they want to go, so…hope all goes well for you Guest! Would be good to put a face to the name!
July 18th, 2012 at 6:13 am
Thanks Hwnrdr,
It’s frustrating for me that my travel plans aren’t set yet. I’ve only been told that I am to fly to San Jose in the 2nd week of August. All expenses paid, which is nice. I get to visit my brother and sister hopefully. I won’t miss Raider Nation Celebration for anything IF I can make it. I wish I knew.
But when I am finally setup with my itenerary, I’ll post here and let you know. I’d like to see you, Dirt-lot others there. I’ll buy you guys a beer.
July 18th, 2012 at 6:15 am
That would be cool Guest! I heard they’re gonna have us park in lot C, Hegenberger side! And that they will open up the locker room and other places!
July 18th, 2012 at 6:22 am
THAT IS 12-AUG. CORRECT ?
July 18th, 2012 at 6:26 am
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
July 18th, 2012 at 6:22 am
THAT IS 12-AUG. CORRECT ?
Yes Sir!
July 18th, 2012 at 7:20 am
Is there a new post I am NOT seeing or is everyone busy at work? Just checking guys!
July 18th, 2012 at 7:35 am
Dez bryant sounds like a really great son..
July 18th, 2012 at 7:43 am
Whats wrong with the knicks? Never heard of sign & trade?
July 18th, 2012 at 7:44 am
G’mornin fellas
July 18th, 2012 at 7:45 am
Wow, slow humpday..
July 18th, 2012 at 7:48 am
LOL, no news for awhile I guess! I heard somewhere that EJ Henderson may be in the mix?
July 18th, 2012 at 7:49 am
Nice job by espn reporting lakers & magic meeting face to face yesterday. Except that it never happend..
July 18th, 2012 at 8:02 am
Id like to bring in ej. romac needs a push. And a back up.
July 18th, 2012 at 8:03 am
Marks hair Says:
July 18th, 2012 at 8:02 am
Id like to bring in ej. romac needs a push. And a back up.
That’s what i’m saying…
July 18th, 2012 at 8:12 am
1205.guest123 Says:
July 18th, 2012 at 5:46 am
Not much from the nite crew. My favorite post was the happy face thumbs up code. Yeah! Like that! Nice way to start a day.
Good Morning Nation!
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Do you realize how much effort it was to copy and paste that stuff on Reggie and how Chicago was going after him?
Just kidding.
….I tried to get something rolling at least.
July 18th, 2012 at 8:42 am
Marks hair Says:
July 18th, 2012 at 7:43 am
Whats wrong with the knicks? Never heard of sign & trade?
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And get everything back they just traded to the Knicks for Camby?? lol..
July 18th, 2012 at 8:42 am
To the Rockets I meant..
July 18th, 2012 at 8:43 am
EJ Henderson has recently begun circulating word he’s 100% healthy and wants to play.
July 18th, 2012 at 8:44 am
We need something new to feed off of. This is like trying to make small talk with a girl (or guy) you broke up with. Awkward – you can only say “I hope for the best” so many times! Thankfully, training camp is only a week away. In the meantime, maybe I should go smack Dez Bryant’s momma, or something!
July 18th, 2012 at 8:45 am
Maybe Dez Bryant just had some really good BBQ, the kind that makes you wanna smalc yo mama..
July 18th, 2012 at 8:49 am
Do you realize how much effort it was to copy and paste that stuff on Reggie and how Chicago was going after him?
Just kidding.
….I tried to get something rolling at least
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That was some good stuff DJ.
I have a new appreciation for Reggie McK now. Always thought that it was a solid move hiring Reggie.
July 18th, 2012 at 8:59 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 18th, 2012 at 8:45 am
Maybe Dez Bryant just had some really good BBQ, the kind that makes you wanna smalc yo mama..
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Lmao! Or maybe he thinks he’s Top Flight Security of the world and caught momma stealing from his wallet.
July 18th, 2012 at 9:00 am
Good morning fellas. Lol @ #1231
July 18th, 2012 at 9:08 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 18th, 2012 at 8:43 am
EJ Henderson has recently begun circulating word he’s 100% healthy and wants to play.
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Could be a solid addition on the cheap, in case 55 runs in to more legal issues..
July 18th, 2012 at 9:15 am
54 days and 10 hours till we unleash the nasty on SD.
July 18th, 2012 at 9:19 am
Tyvon Branch’s new contract gives us 5.159 million in cap space.
July 18th, 2012 at 9:22 am
Ohioraider Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 8:36 am
Raider O Says:
July 15th, 2012 at 7:44 pm
Ohioraider Says:
July 15th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
bigsnow81 Says:
July 14th, 2012 at 10:22 pm
What’s crackin Nation? McKenzie thinks Branch is the real deal. I will always root for Al Davis draft picks to succeed. The first off-season without Al, doesn’t feel right.
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Ahhh, it feels beautiful, sane, enlightened…
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It does? Why? Because the HOFer owner/ GM is dead?
You people make me sick.
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Yeah, that’s right. I’m tired of losing. And if you dispute the collective sigh of relief coming from just about every corner just look closely at what Mark Davis and Reggie McKenzie are doing the organization from the ground up: it’s called blowing it the f up.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
You are happy/ relieved the owner of a business is dead, so someone else can run his business in a way you can agree with?
Why don’t you create wealth and buy a team and run it the way you want? you can’t!
I’m so sick of these people with a sense of entitlement.
July 18th, 2012 at 9:32 am
54 days and 10 hours till we unleash the nasty on SD.
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Dat’s RIGHT ! ! !
Teams are gonna have to score 30 points at least, to put us away.
If Defense stays the exact same but Offense improves, we should win at least a couple more.
July 18th, 2012 at 9:54 am
I both agree and strongly disagree with reference to dearly departed Al. I hate that he is no longer around – it just won’t seem the same this year. The Raiders were truly his team – he embodied them and they, likewise, embodied him. Age and several really bad decisions took their toll on him — I don’t think he ever recovered from having invested so heavily in JaWalrus, only to have him be the biggest bust of the century.
Now, having said all that, the game really changed too much and he was having a hard time adapting. It was high time that fresh blood and a new sense of accountability came to the organization. Amy Trask has done a fine job, but that’s on the admin side. We needed a true football guy to guide the team. I strongly believe that in Reggie, we have that. There are already fewer and fewer sports writers taking potshots at the Silver and Black, and I see that trend continuing to decline.
By the time DA is done in Oakland (not that I’m wishing him out already, but I’m just saying), the Oakland head coaching job will once again be one that prospective suitors will run toward rather than away from.
Stay the course, Nation – it’s coming – we’re on the way back up!
July 18th, 2012 at 10:02 am
1240 – Straight Up man.
July 18th, 2012 at 10:11 am
O DOG !! whats up my GreenParty brother ??
July 18th, 2012 at 10:13 am
I’m so sick of people with a sense of entitlement.
I’m a citizen, so the gov should support me.
I work at a car factory with no real education or skilled labor, but I want to get paid based on profits from the industry.
I’m a Raiders fan, but I don’t like what Al is doing, so I hope he dies so someone else can run Al’s business in a way that I can agree with.
July 18th, 2012 at 10:16 am
What’s up Mike and O?
Tbone…spot on bro!
July 18th, 2012 at 10:18 am
Hwnrdr.. whats good today brother ??
July 18th, 2012 at 10:19 am
-You want to share profits? Buy stocks!
-you want to influence a football team? buy shares or spend your money on billboards.
July 18th, 2012 at 10:19 am
lol ok. O , now tell us how you really feel !! lol lol lol !
July 18th, 2012 at 10:24 am
ODB,
Had some friends over the last few days, and I’m tired bro.
Long Live The ODB!
July 18th, 2012 at 10:28 am
Good day Hwnrdr.
July 18th, 2012 at 10:28 am
?? party a little to hard sir ??
just hope the boss doesnt give you any flack for
being tired !! lol lol lol
have you heard from our Prez yet ??
and i also agree with you brother. i am smelling what you are stepping in !!
July 18th, 2012 at 10:28 am
R8ER MIKE Says:
July 18th, 2012 at 10:18 am
Hwnrdr.. whats good today brother ??
Oh you know, same ol, same ol! Trying to get through the day!
July 18th, 2012 at 10:34 am
Party like a responsible rockstar!
LOL
July 18th, 2012 at 10:34 am
Tyvon Branch’s new contract gives us 5.159 million in cap space.
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woohoo!
nice work, BigMac
I think Reggie will sit on his hands for a while and wait to see what he has, before rushing out to sign any FA’s
Also – a few more talented players [than whats currently sitting in the FA pool] may be released at 1st or 2nd roster cutdown time, prior to the start of regular season … but those players wont know our offense/defense and would be forced to learn on the fly like Palmer & Curry last season
July 18th, 2012 at 10:35 am
Agreed Rockstar! And you can’t teach talent
July 18th, 2012 at 10:37 am
I’m not saying a worker shouldn’t try to improve his income/ status in the company/ industry, but do it right. Go to school, get certificates, work harder, etc… And then ask for more money.
July 18th, 2012 at 10:40 am
Tyvon Branch’s new contract gives us 5.159 million in cap space.
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woohoo!
nice work, BigMac
I think Reggie will sit on his hands for a while and wait to see what he has, before rushing out to sign any FA’s
Also – a few more talented players [than whats currently sitting in the FA pool] may be released at 1st or 2nd roster cutdown time, prior to the start of regular season … but those players wont know our offense/defense and would be forced to learn on the fly like Palmer & Curry last season
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Yeah, kinda like when Housh got cut from the Seattle Seahawks b/c he refused to take a pay cut and got his guaranteed money and a very small contract from the Ravens.
July 18th, 2012 at 10:53 am
I think Reggie will sit on his hands for a while and wait to see what he has, before rushing out to sign any FA’s
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No doubt. You have to expect injuries in camp. It’s something that is going to happen. To have the ability to sign a late cut that could fill a huge void is something that would be foolish to give away at this point.
July 18th, 2012 at 10:57 am
@Dutch & Hwnrdr
Reggie seems like a responsible guy. I don’t think he’s gonna go all out for big names, just because he has the funds now.
Like a squirrel, he may just stash a few acorns away for later when they are needed.
If an injury occurs, then we’ll be able to get a quality player and not a scrub off of somebody elses practice squad.
July 18th, 2012 at 11:02 am
Like a squirrel, he may just stash a few acorns away for later when they are needed.
Probably best line of the day!
July 18th, 2012 at 11:02 am
Why not sign Visanthe Shiancoe to a minor deal? Reggie’s got the cap space for it easily. Even if he’s the 4th read on any play, he’s un upgrade both blocking and receiving over Myers, Ausberry or Gordon. It’s definitely a glaring weakness that can be solved with the stroke of a pen.
July 18th, 2012 at 11:06 am
We dont need Visante Shiancoe.
July 18th, 2012 at 11:06 am
Why not sign Visanthe Shiancoe to a minor deal?
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@G123
please read my last 2 comments. thank you
July 18th, 2012 at 11:08 am
We dont need Visante Shiancoe.
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Yet we DO NEED a 4th string RB.
July 18th, 2012 at 11:09 am
guest123 Says:
July 18th, 2012 at 11:08 am
We dont need Visante Shiancoe.
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Yet we DO NEED a 4th string RB.
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We MIGHT need an injury-insurance RB, sure.
July 18th, 2012 at 11:10 am
RRS,
Wait and hope is not a plan. Raiding other teams trashbins isn’t a plan. They are evaluated and rejected for a reason. There aren’t any dummy GM’s who throw away good players. Instead of hope and change strategy, why not go after a proven commodity that is sitting out there now. Before someone get hurt in camp and his value goes waaaay up. Time to buy is right now.
July 18th, 2012 at 11:11 am
We MIGHT need an injury-insurance RB, sure.
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So we carry 6 RB’s and 3 TE’s? Knowing that Knapp’s WCO system relies on frequent 2 TE sets?
July 18th, 2012 at 11:16 am
I say we let Bedric Censon go to the Jets..seems he’d be a fine fit there, personality wise.
July 18th, 2012 at 11:16 am
Like a squirrel
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Reggie is a tree rat? Say it ain’t so!
July 18th, 2012 at 11:17 am
guest123 Says:
July 18th, 2012 at 11:11 am
We MIGHT need an injury-insurance RB, sure.
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So we carry 6 RB’s and 3 TE’s? Knowing that Knapp’s WCO system relies on frequent 2 TE sets?
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4 RBs / 2 FBs / 3 TEs
Yes.
July 18th, 2012 at 11:17 am
Knapp’s WCO system relies on frequent 2 TE sets
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@G123
who was the other guy paired with Zach Miller (pass catching TE) in Knapp’s last OC stint here?
Myers. Right?
who says Ausberry/Myers can’t get it done in 2012, just the same?
July 18th, 2012 at 11:21 am
Raiding other teams trashbins isn’t a plan. They are evaluated and rejected for a reason. There aren’t any dummy GM’s who throw away good players. Instead of hope and change strategy, why not go after a proven commodity that is sitting out there now
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@G123
how many PROVEN players has Reggie added this offseason? how many weren’t undrafted, late round picks or rejects from other teams?
we re-signed & restructured a few of our own guys, but outside of that I don’t see many big names.
July 18th, 2012 at 11:29 am
How much would Henderson cost? He made 6 mill last year.
July 18th, 2012 at 11:32 am
The Big Banana Says:
July 18th, 2012 at 11:29 am
How much would Henderson cost? He made 6 mill last year.
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Dont know.. imagine somewhere around 3?..
I want to see what Goethel & Stupar can do before we sign a MLB.
July 18th, 2012 at 11:33 am
Other than the Charles Woodson signing 7 years ago Green Bay is not a “big splash” in free agency type of team. Green Bays has a small market mentality of building through the draft and adding select free agents that are late rounders or undrafted entirely. Expect that here and not trading away draft picks for “Randy Moss” or “Jivin’” Walker type of players that can’t or don’t want to play. Those days are gone.
July 18th, 2012 at 11:35 am
I want to see what Goethel & Stupar can do before we sign a MLB.
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The Raiders were very high on Goethel the last two years before he got hurt. He was a very pleasant surprise. Let’s see how it goes this year.
July 18th, 2012 at 11:36 am
I was thinking around that neighborhood too, DAV. We may have time on that one as it appears he’s looking for substantially more than teams are willing to pay.
July 18th, 2012 at 11:38 am
The two Raiders I’m most anxious to see in pre-season are Taiwan Jones and Pryor.
Jones, because his flash against the Saints last year leads me to believe he’s got off the charts ability and can absolutely be a star in the NFL. Flash in the pan ? Pre-season fluke ? Don’t think so and looking forward to some verification pretty soon.
Pryor, because I really have no idea how his game will translate in the NFL or if he can throw the ball at all. Hopeful that Pryor shows some indication of being close to ready. I’m convinced Matty Lice is a complete scrub and waste of time. I hope Pryor gets substantial work in the pre-season.
July 18th, 2012 at 11:40 am
4-3:
Shaughnessy Curry
Seymour McClain
Kelly Wheeler
Houston
3-4:
Burris
Seymour McClain
Kelly Curry
Houston Goethel/Burnett
July 18th, 2012 at 11:42 am
We really dont have room for a LB, unless an injury occurs. Or 1 of them just really blows.
July 18th, 2012 at 11:42 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 18th, 2012 at 11:40 am
4-3:
Shaughnessy Curry
Seymour McClain
Kelly Wheeler
Houston
3-4:
Burris
Seymour McClain
Kelly Curry
Houston Goethel/Burnett
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Any chance Houston could play the NT position? He is a massive dude at 6′3 305..
July 18th, 2012 at 11:43 am
TxRaider210 Says:
July 18th, 2012 at 11:42 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 18th, 2012 at 11:40 am
4-3:
Shaughnessy Curry
Seymour McClain
Kelly Wheeler
Houston
3-4:
Burris
Seymour McClain
Kelly Curry
Houston Goethel/Burnett
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Any chance Houston could play the NT position? He is a massive dude at 6′3 305..
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For sure, im just going by what DA has said, Kelly is his NT in a 3-4.
That whole DL outside of Shaughnessy is interchangeable.
July 18th, 2012 at 11:46 am
And then you have to factor in Ivey as a NT if he makes the team.
July 18th, 2012 at 11:46 am
DAV
Yeah I hear ya man, DA knows his stuff it seems. Could be sweet to let Houston try the NT position with Seymour and Shonasty either side of him.
July 18th, 2012 at 11:48 am
TxRaider210 Says:
July 18th, 2012 at 11:46 am
DAV
Yeah I hear ya man, DA knows his stuff it seems. Could be sweet to let Houston try the NT position with Seymour and Shonasty either side of him.
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I just dont know if I like Shaughnessy in a 3-4.
Not really an OLB, dont know if he can play DE in it either.
July 18th, 2012 at 11:51 am
3-4
Seymour/Burris
Houston/McClain
Shonasty/Goethel
Wheeler
July 18th, 2012 at 11:51 am
When I think of 3-4 DEs & OLBs I think of Justin Smith & Terrell Suggs…
July 18th, 2012 at 11:51 am
We really dont have room for a LB, unless an injury occurs. Or 1 of them just really blows.
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@DAV
I know that a bunch of Raider fans are high on Burris, Stupar & Burnett – but they are just rookies
I’d be surprised if even one of these kids produces in 2012. Gonna have to contribute on special teams
Heck, the verdict is still out on all 3 starting LB’s!
plus that slow, injury-proned white guy in his 3rd year out of Arizona State
July 18th, 2012 at 11:52 am
DAV
Yeah that would be my question mark on Shonasty also..I’m sure they’ll try a variety of packages during the pre-season.
July 18th, 2012 at 11:53 am
TxRaider210 Says:
July 18th, 2012 at 11:51 am
3-4
Seymour/Burris
Houston/McClain
Shonasty/Goethel
Wheeler
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Wheeler looked too small to play 3-4 OLB, but if he can his speed would be nice.
July 18th, 2012 at 11:55 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 18th, 2012 at 11:51 am
We really dont have room for a LB, unless an injury occurs. Or 1 of them just really blows.
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@DAV
I know that a bunch of Raider fans are high on Burris, Stupar & Burnett – but they are just rookies
I’d be surprised if even one of these kids produces in 2012. Gonna have to contribute on special teams
Heck, the verdict is still out on all 3 starting LB’s!
plus that slow, injury-proned white guy in his 3rd year out of Arizona State
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Yea, I just dont see RM bringing in these youngsters just to sit em in favor of a vet and not see what he has.
The level of talent between them and any available FAs isnt that great to make a move.
July 18th, 2012 at 11:56 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 18th, 2012 at 11:53 am
TxRaider210 Says:
July 18th, 2012 at 11:51 am
3-4
Seymour/Burris
Houston/McClain
Shonasty/Goethel
Wheeler
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Wheeler looked too small to play 3-4 OLB, but if he can his speed would be nice.
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Yeah he is lighter than he’s listed, that’s for sure. I know that Burris is a rookie, but the intensity he plays with, along with his great instincts should make him a solid contributer this season.imo
July 18th, 2012 at 11:57 am
Any chance Houston could play the NT position? He is a massive dude at 6′3 305
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LaMarr is a 4-3 UT , just like Seymour, Kelly & Bryant
July 18th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 18th, 2012 at 11:57 am
Any chance Houston could play the NT position? He is a massive dude at 6′3 305
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LaMarr is a 4-3 UT , just like Seymour, Kelly & Bryant
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Thanks for clearing that up…I don’t know all the little things that coaches see that determine those types of decisions.
July 18th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
RR,
So in our 3-4 formations, will we use TK or Ivey at NT?
July 18th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
By NFL standards, 6′3″ and 305 isn’t exactly massive.
The conventional first impulse when considering a player’s suitability for manning the nose is to go for size. Just makes sense that a behemoth is harder to move and more likely to stuff the run.
That’s why Ivey is a candidate.
However, Reggie Kinlaw proved that massive size isn’t mandatory if you’ve got great strength and quickness.
I think Houston could do the job at NT.
July 18th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
For sure, Houston is one of the strongest guys on the team. Great hands, could see him play NT if needed.
Not everydown, but thrown in, sure.
July 18th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
Yea, I just dont see RM bringing in these youngsters just to sit em in favor of a vet and not see what he has.
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me neither, DAV
thats not what I was suggesting
July 18th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
July 18th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
By NFL standards, 6′3″ and 305 isn’t exactly massive.
The conventional first impulse when considering a player’s suitability for manning the nose is to go for size. Just makes sense that a behemoth is harder to move and more likely to stuff the run.
That’s why Ivey is a candidate.
However, Reggie Kinlaw proved that massive size isn’t mandatory if you’ve got great strength and quickness.
I think Houston could do the job at NT.
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That’s what I started thinking since the guy plays with such leverage. He doesn’t seem to get the sack number off of the edge, so maybe NT or DT is more suitable for him..
July 18th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
numbers*
July 18th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 18th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
Yea, I just dont see RM bringing in these youngsters just to sit em in favor of a vet and not see what he has.
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me neither, DAV
thats not what I was suggesting
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Just dialogue.
I wasnt debating or anything.
July 18th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
So in our 3-4 formations, will we use TK or Ivey at NT?
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according to Dennis Allen, Kelly
but he just said that TK could do it, not that he would. and the staff also seems impressed with Ivey
I think the staff needs to see how both guys play with the pads on in training camp & preseason before making that determination.
I’d like to see what undrafted rookie Dom Hamilton outta Podunk U can do!!
July 18th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
Sixers coach Collins: Kwame Brown is our starting center
Jeremy Lin: “Honestly, I preferred New York”
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LOL!!
July 18th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
Frontrunners for free agent center Darko Milicic are Boston, Brooklyn and LA Clippers
Rajon Rondo: “ I think I’m the best point guard in the league”
July 18th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 18th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
Frontrunners for free agent center Darko Milicic are Boston, Brooklyn and LA Clippers
Rajon Rondo: “ I think I’m the best point guard in the league”
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Bulls & Heat in on Darko too.
July 18th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
I wouldn’t bet the house on Howard in purple and gold. Or even $5.
Bynum and his agent, David Lee, are scheduled to return from an Alaskan fishing vacation Wednesday.
-Kurt Helin (PBT)
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Sorry Beeech Dawg !!
July 18th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 18th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
So in our 3-4 formations, will we use TK or Ivey at NT?
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according to Dennis Allen, Kelly
but he just said that TK could do it, not that he would. and the staff also seems impressed with Ivey
I think the staff needs to see how both guys play with the pads on in training camp & preseason before making that determination.
I’d like to see what undrafted rookie Dom Hamilton outta Podunk U can do!!
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Only time will tell who wins the job..exciting times for the new Raiders.
July 18th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
E.J. Henderson says he’s 100 percent healthy and wants to play
Posted by Josh Alper on July 18, 2012, 3:02 PM EDT
Cedric Benson isn’t the only veteran with extensive starting experience looking for work as the start of training camp draws closer.
Linebacker E.J. Henderson started 105 games for the Vikings over the last nine years, including 14 last year, but the team was content to let him go as a free agent. The team never said never about bringing him back, but Jasper Brinkley’s installed at middle linebacker. Lingering questions about knee and leg injuries and the fact that Henderson’s best suited to a role on the first two downs likely contributed to that decision and to the league’s indifference toward him this offseason.
Tom Pelissero of ESPN1500.c0m reports that Henderson’s stepping up his efforts to find work. Henderson is “circulating word” that he’s 100 percent healthy and ready to get back on the field. Pelissero writes that it is unclear if Henderson would accept a one-year deal near the minimum — his salary last year was $4.7 million — but, like Benson, he probably doesn’t have much of a choice if he wants to keep playing.
Henderson’s limitations in regard to playing in passing situations restrict the number of landing spots for him, although Paul Gutierrez of CSNBayArea.com mentions him as a possible beneficiary of the cap space provided by signing Tyvon Branch to a new deal. Benson also gets mentioned as a possibility for the Raiders, which just underscores how few established players looking to keep playing are still unemployed at this point in time.
July 18th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
Yo just spent the AM humping a few beach volleyball ho’s bareback
Whenever these dirty Brazilians are in town they crash at the Beeeech Pad and take a few amazing rides on the Beeech Lawg
Gonna wash my ding dong off with a few margaritas, only guaranteed way to kill any bacteria, holla
Then it’s time to continue the “Dwight Is Right” (patent pending) party – get it, he’s “right” in coming to the Lake Show, represent
Smoking a bowl and eating a cinnamon roll
THAT’S HOW THEM BIG DAWGS BARK, MEOW
July 18th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
2012 NFL Minimum Base Salary by Years Accrued*
*not include signing bonuses, roster bonuses or any other LTBE (likely to be earned) incentives
Years Accrued : Salary
Rookie : $390,000
1 : $465,000
2 : $540,000
3 – $615,000
4-6 : $700,000
7-9 : $825,000
10+ : $925,000
All base salaries will subsequently rise $15,000 annually through 2014.
July 18th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
the vet minimum for Benson & Henderson is 825k each.
Reggie should making both players a standing offer of one-year $1 million and see what happens
if 1 of our players get hurt, increase the offer to $1.5 million
July 18th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
The bonuses are the only guaranteed money, Rockstar. Players rarely ever end up getting the majority of their base salary.
July 18th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
At least in the NFL, and I believe the NBA as well.
MLB I think is the only sport where the player gets every dime they sign for. Weird how there isn’t as much fan resentment toward that, no matter how bloated the salary. Meanwhile, just outrage over NFL and NBA players regarding money most of them will never get. Weird.
July 18th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
NBA contracts are fully guaranteed.
July 18th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
@Sully
I thought the base salary was guaranteed if they are on the roster past Week 1 of the regular season ??
July 18th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
DJ Sully Fresh where have you been and why has the FBI not called me yet?
July 18th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 18th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
@Sully
I thought the base salary was guaranteed if they are on the roster past Week 1 of the regular season ??
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If they are on the roster DURING week 1.
Thats why vets are cut right before the season starts, then brought back after the first game..
July 18th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
I hope Reggie and Mark are just focused on a couple of winning seasons, something we haven’t seen in over a decade, and perhaps our first Lombardi trophy in 30 years, not finding ways to screw players.
July 18th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
Henderson won’t play for a measly mil. But I agree that Reggie needs to dangle an offer to him and go from there.
July 18th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
A single season salary would be guaranteed, I believe. But not the full contract. Right? correct me if I’m wrong. Baseball, every dime they sign for, they get. Period. Doesn’t matter if they get hurt the first game and never play again.
July 18th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
Raiders seem to have done a great job with season ticket sales. They have released a graphic and a lot of the sections are sold out.. Mount Davis is completely sold out. I got my season tickets and can’t wait for the season to start and it appears we might be headed for another full season sell out.
July 18th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
If they are on the roster DURING week 1.
Thats why vets are cut right before the season starts, then brought back after the first game..
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@DAV
remember Yamon Figurs making the final 53 and Raider fans were pissed? then he fumbled a return or two in Week 1 and the team cut him ??
Does that mean we paid him a year’s salary, DAV?
July 18th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
Henderson won’t play for a measly mil.
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@G123
thats more than Goethel & Stupar are making. It’s more than the vet minimum, too.
what is the UFL offering?
July 18th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 18th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
If they are on the roster DURING week 1.
Thats why vets are cut right before the season starts, then brought back after the first game..
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@DAV
remember Yamon Figurs making the final 53 and Raider fans were pissed? then he fumbled a return or two in Week 1 and the team cut him ??
Does that mean we paid him a year’s salary, DAV?
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I believe its for vets with a certain # of years played.
July 18th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
Lets be clear, the days of Benson & Henderson making $3 million + per season are long gone. This is a young man’s game
July 18th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
good read!
http://www.howstuffworks.com/question644.htm
July 18th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
Lets be clear, the days of Benson & Henderson making $3 million + per season are long gone. This is a young man’s game
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Benson’s not worth $300K. He sucks. Next stop UFL
Please don’t put Benson and Henderson in the same sentence.
July 18th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
RR as soon as Dwight’s presser is over you’re invited to the Beeeech Pad for his Welcome to Showtime Pajama Jammy Jam
Tell your wife I won’t let you near any of my shorties in the jacuzzi, but you’ll be expected to keep the PARTYDUDE 8000 well oiled
I’ll be testing out a some experimental new lube on my wee-wee while I hump hos on the beanbags
Supposed to not only protect against crabs, but will give me an extra 1.5 ft on my pop shot
FIZZLE
July 18th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
guest123 Says:
July 18th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
Lets be clear, the days of Benson & Henderson making $3 million + per season are long gone. This is a young man’s game
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Benson’s not worth $300K. He sucks. Next stop UFL
Please don’t put Benson and Henderson in the same sentence.
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You just did yourself.. HYPOCRITE!!
July 18th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
Q: When we hear about guaranteed money in NFL contracts, is that money paid up front in a lump sum or is it spread out over the length of the contract? Assuming that it is spread out, if a player is cut or traded, does whatever remains of that guaranteed money get paid in a lump sum or in installments?
A: You touch on an important distinction about NFL contracts.
A player’s base salary is usually not guaranteed. The player only makes that money if he’s on a team’s roster for that particular season.
When you see a player sign a five-year or six-year deal, the base salaries are routinely included when the total amount of the deal is discussed. However, unless the player is actually on the roster to start the regular season in that particular year he doesn’t get that money unless it’s been specifically dealt with in the language of the contract.
And that’s rare for a team to guarantee somebody’s base salary over the long term.
Now, if a player is a vested player under the current labor deal (this is the last year of that) – that’s a player with four accrued seasons of service time – their base salaries are guaranteed if they are on a team’s roster for the first game of regular season.
So that’s why you often see older players released the week before the season’s first game and then resigned the next week. Then their base salaries are not guaranteed and they are paid only for the weeks they are on the roster if that’s one or the remaining 15 games.
Players are also paid their base salaries, again unless it has been specifically dealt with in the language of the deal, if they get injured and spend the season on injured reserve. There have been split contracts for younger players at times when those guys have earned less than their scheduled base salary if they had to spend the season on injured reserve.
But guaranteed money, usually in the form of a signing bonus, can be paid out a lot of ways. Sometimes it’s a lump sum, player gets it as soon as he signs the deal.
Or sometimes the team and player will agree to split the payments up over the first two years of the deal and some players have also had money deferred for later years, but there were plenty of rules about that when the salary cap was in place.
And those are some of the many elements the league and the players union have to hash through as they try to construct a new labor deal, all of those details about how contracts can be constructed.
-Jeff Legwold (08/09/2010)
July 18th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
“Now, if a player is a vested player under the current labor deal (this is the last year of that) – that’s a player with four accrued seasons of service time – their base salaries are guaranteed if they are on a team’s roster for the first game of regular season.”
July 18th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
2010 was Yamon’s 4th NFL season, so I guess we didn’t have to pay him …
speaking of, he just got cut by the Edmonton Eskimos in the CFL last month, LOL!
July 18th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
Kokomo Says:
July 18th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
Raiders seem to have done a great job with season ticket sales. They have released a graphic and a lot of the sections are sold out.. Mount Davis is completely sold out. I got my season tickets and can’t wait for the season to start and it appears we might be headed for another full season sell out.
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Interesting graphic. You can see everything that’s available. Well, already have my season tix, so this is good news. Bring on the season!
July 18th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
I propose a new squad be allowed for every team.
The opposite of the Practice Sqaud.
Call it the Geezer squad.
Every team has a 4 man roster of players 32+ of age.
July 18th, 2012 at 12:59 pm
I propose a new squad be allowed for every team.
The opposite of the Practice Sqaud.
Call it the Geezer squad.
Every team has a 4 man roster of players 32+ of age.
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yeah, DAV
then we can FINALLY re-sign Jeff George!!
July 18th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
700k to re-sign Johnnie Lee Higgins, Reggie!!
do it, thats chump change. peanuts I say !!
July 18th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
Marks hair Says:
July 18th, 2012 at 7:35 am
Dez bryant sounds like a really great son..
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yeah a real gem lol
July 18th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
700K is chump change? Man I feel so poor. You high rollers.
SMH
July 18th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 18th, 2012 at 12:59 pm
I propose a new squad be allowed for every team.
The opposite of the Practice Sqaud.
Call it the Geezer squad.
Every team has a 4 man roster of players 32+ of age.
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yeah, DAV
then we can FINALLY re-sign Jeff George!!
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Bring back Terry Mcdaniel!
July 18th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
Bring back Terry Mcdaniel!
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LOL @ HB
Heck, I might settle for Tory James
July 18th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
Plunkett and Grad as #2 would have been better than than anything I’ve seen since ‘02. But we got a new gunslinger now, and I’ve been dying for one since Plunk.
July 18th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
Any of you nerds know how to clean va-jay-jay stains out of a waterbed?
July 18th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
Actualy, Kerry Collins was kind of a gunslinger and was somewhat of a highlight during the dark years.
July 18th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
Bring back Ronald Curry and Lamont Jordan!
July 18th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
July 18th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
Any of you nerds know how to clean va-jay-jay stains out of a waterbed?
////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////Drain the waterbed, take it outside and place it on a sloping piece of your property, refill the waterbed and watch it roll down the hill mowing down all shrubs and small trees in its path until its inglorious end slamming into a late model buick, or whatever ultimately stops your homemade tank.
July 18th, 2012 at 1:28 pm
USDA says 39 more counties are drought disaster areas
The USDA has designated 39 additional counties in eight states as primary natural disaster areas due to damage and losses caused by drought and excessive heat, CNN’s Brianna Keilar reports.
During the 2012 crop year, the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) has designated 1,297 counties across 29 states as disaster areas, making all qualified farm operators in the areas eligible for low-interest emergency loans.
Worst drought since ’50s may cost us all
The U.S. is facing the largest drought since the 1950s, the National Climatic Data Center reported Monday, saying that about 55% of the country was in at least moderate short-term drought in June for the first time since December 1956, when 58% of the country was in a moderate to extreme drought.
The hot, dry weather in June, which ranked as the third-driest month nationally in at least 118 years, according to the center, made the problem worse.
July 18th, 2012 at 1:30 pm
Great to see the old goat is still ONLY talking Raider football, like he promised
Sad, sad old fool
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KoolKell Says:
July 18th, 2012 at 1:28 pm
USDA says 39 more counties are drought disaster areas
The USDA has designated 39 additional counties in eight states as primary natural disaster areas due to damage and losses caused by drought and excessive heat, CNN’s Brianna Keilar reports.
During the 2012 crop year, the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) has designated 1,297 counties across 29 states as disaster areas, making all qualified farm operators in the areas eligible for low-interest emergency loans.
Worst drought since ’50s may cost us all
The U.S. is facing the largest drought since the 1950s, the National Climatic Data Center reported Monday, saying that about 55% of the country was in at least moderate short-term drought in June for the first time since December 1956, when 58% of the country was in a moderate to extreme drought.
The hot, dry weather in June, which ranked as the third-driest month nationally in at least 118 years, according to the center, made the problem worse.
July 18th, 2012 at 1:30 pm
kk, your thoughts on the astroid mining venture.
July 18th, 2012 at 1:31 pm
Not flippant, serious question.
July 18th, 2012 at 1:35 pm
Los Mal Ojos Says:
July 18th, 2012 at 1:30 pm
kk, your thoughts on the astroid mining venture.
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I’m unaware of such venture, your thoughts. Lol.
July 18th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
LMO, you better hurry and provide KrappyRat a link or he’ll soil himself in frustration
Just keeping it real
July 18th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
Yo, the Jamison signing is official just like the Certified Platinum Posse reported last week, holla
Time to get my swerve on with some Bartles & James and a nice phat bowl
Shout out to 2Pac
July 18th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
1287.RaiderRockstar Says:
July 18th, 2012 at 11:51 am
We really dont have room for a LB, unless an injury occurs. Or 1 of them just really blows.
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@DAV
I know that a bunch of Raider fans are high on Burris, Stupar & Burnett – but they are just rookies
I’d be surprised if even one of these kids produces in 2012. Gonna have to contribute on special teams
Heck, the verdict is still out on all 3 starting LB’s!
plus that slow, injury-proned white guy in his 3rd year out of Arizona State
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We’re seeing less and less rookies standing around learning their craft and being brought along slowly IF they are talented guys.
I have a feeling a guy like Burris; with his energy and ability will be one that might get in there right away. Especially since our D was so horrible last yr.
Let’s put it this way- he’s in the right place.
There have been many rookies who have made big impacts their first yr…in various positions. I don’t anyone thought Von Miller would’ve done what he did his first yr. Then you’ve got guys in the most important position of the team like Cam Newton, Big Ben and now RG3 slated to start right away, along with Luck in Indy.
It isn’t like Burris is coming in trying to crack the Ravens starting line up.
I know it’s getting ahead of ourselves to sugggest Burris makes an immediate impact cuz we still have training camp and the preseason etc. but don’t count it out.
July 18th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
There have been many rookies who have made big impacts their first yr…in various positions. I don’t anyone thought Von Miller would’ve done what he did his first yr. Then you’ve got guys in the most important position of the team like Cam Newton, Big Ben and now RG3 slated to start right away, along with Luck in Indy.
It isn’t like Burris is coming in trying to crack the Ravens starting line up.
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@DJG
Von Miller was the 2nd overall pick, Burris went 129th!
[one of the last picks in the 4th round]
Luck, Griffin, Roethlisberger & Newton all 1st rounders as well.
I don’t think that Curry & Wheeler are world-beaters, but I think they’ll have slight edge over a raw player that every team in the league passed up 4 times
July 18th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
Rockstar, Good valid points.
I guess what i’m saying is this Raider D was bad..very bad last yr. and if Burris can prove himself in camp and preseason then I say why not?
DMoore was a 4th or 5th(?) I believe too.
Yes, i’m being optimistic but we’ll just have to see how it plays out.
July 18th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
Giordano was picked 134.
July 18th, 2012 at 2:33 pm
The Raider D caused so much personal pain and anguish last season that i’d be willing to trot out the entire starting D of Alabama in lieu of having that crew take the field again.
I’m still ticked.
July 18th, 2012 at 2:33 pm
Lotta folks passed up on D Moore too. I don’t put a heck of alot of stock in draft “Status” much past the 25th pick or so.
July 18th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
July 18th, 2012 at 2:33 pm
The Raider D caused so much personal pain and anguish last season that i’d be willing to trot out the entire starting D of Alabama in lieu of having that crew take the field again.
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Different scheme, different DC playcaller.
July 18th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
DMoore was a 4th or 5th(?) I believe too.
Yes, i’m being optimistic but we’ll just have to see how it plays out.
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@DJG
I’m not saying it can’t happen. Just stating that it isn’t likely.
July 18th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
Yo Brahs
Getting pumped over the 2012 Showtime Roster, wrote a sweet jam about it
Also included shout outs to Uncle Sam and my incredibly talented ding dong
Sing this one the next time you’re cleaning out your wife’s plumbing (meaning, the next time you’re inserting your weiner dawg into her va-jay-jay)
This one’s called “The American Flag is Purple & Gold and My Weiner is Cool”
Bringing it home, it’s a Lake Show day
Gotta give my props to the U.S. and A
Dwight, Nash and Antawn, uh, that’s not too bad
Now lick my schlong girl and tickle them nads
FREESTYLIN’ AND PROFILIN’
July 18th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
Giordano was picked 134.
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@DAV
that is why he’s been with 4 teams in the past 4 seasons.
Oddly enough, Al Davis passed on Ron Bartell & Matt Giordano in the 2005 draft – only to select Fabian Washington & Stan Routt with his first two picks
8 years later, Reggie makes it right!!
just for laughs, Gio never would have been picked up by Al Davis (even undrafted). he ran a 4.54 forty at the combine!
July 18th, 2012 at 2:40 pm
I would venture to guess that greater than 50% of players drafted after Round 3 never start an NFL game.
July 18th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
Same goes with undrafted kids.
Probably 90% never start an NFL game
July 18th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
We can assume if Burris or one of the other rookies start right away that they earned it.
THAT is a nice departure from having a guy get more time just becuz they’re getting paid alot of $$$.
I think with Reggie and DA that’s the way they intend it to go down.
July 18th, 2012 at 2:45 pm
new post!
July 18th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
Once again you’ve created another chart buster Dawg.
Not sure which format it’ll.
With the patriotic reference they may wanna test it on the Country format.
July 18th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
Can’t type today.
July 18th, 2012 at 3:10 pm
Whut up PM crew? Gettin us some much needed rain here in TX