Branch talks about new contract, future
By Steve Corkran
Wednesday, July 18th, 2012 at 2:41 pm in Oakland Raiders.
The Raiders guaranteed strong safety Tyvon Branch more than $17.1 million by converting his contract from a one-year deal to a four-year pact. On Wednesday, Branch said his peace of mind was just as important as the money.
“It gives you that (comfort) that you’re going to be around for the next couple of years,” Branch said in a conference call. “It definitely gives you a little more peace of mind. It’s just one of those things that you don’t have to worry about anymore. You know where you’re going to be.”
The Raiders placed the franchise tag on Branch early in the offseason. That guaranteed Branch slightly more than $6.2 million, or the average salary of the five highest-paid safeties last season.
That changed Saturday when the Raiders offered Branch a four-year contract, which he accepted and signed.
The transaction freed the Raiders from allotting the $6.2 million for this season’s salary cap and helped them clear almost $4 million in cap room.
Branch has started all 48 regular-season games the past three seasons. He performed at a Pro Bowl-caliber level last season, by some accounts. Even so, he said, he still hasn’t reached his potential.
“The sky’s the limit, as long as you work hard, put forth the effort and you want to become great,” Branch said. “The sky’s the limit. I’m just going to keep working and, hopefully, improve my game.”
Ultimately, Branch said, he is more concerned about helping the Raiders reach the playoffs for the first time in 10 seasons.
“I don’t really have any personal goals,” Branch said. “I just want to win. Whatever it takes to win, I’m all about winning. That’s the most important thing; whatever it’s going to take for us to get in the big dance. We want to be a part of the tournament this year, get into the playoffs.”
In other news, the Raiders still haven’t signed rookies Tony Bergstrom and Juron Criner. Those are at the forefront of general manager Reggie McKenzie’s to-do list now that he has finalized Branch’s contract.
McKenzie likely won’t have any difficulty wrapping up deals for Bergstrom and Criner. He certainly should have both contracts finished in time for the start of training camp July 29.
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July 18th, 2012 at 2:45 pm
Get Criner signed.
July 18th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
We can assume if Burris or one of the other rookies start right away that they earned it.
THAT is a nice departure from having a guy get more time just becuz they’re getting paid alot of $$$.
I think with Reggie and DA that’s the way they intend it to go down.
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Agreed, DJG
no more scholarships!!
July 18th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
Bring back Morant!
July 18th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
1.KoolKell Says:
July 18th, 2012 at 2:45 pm
Get Criner signed.
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He isn’t signed yet?
Yes. Do that..please.
July 18th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
The transaction freed the Raiders from allotting the $6.2 million for this season’s salary cap and helped them clear almost $4 million in cap room.
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almost $4 million, Steve ??
DAV reported $5.1 million in savings earlier today, didn’t he?
July 18th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
Yo Brahs
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Also included shout outs to Uncle Sam and my incredibly talented ding dong
Sing this one the next time you’re cleaning out your wife’s plumbing (meaning, the next time you’re inserting your weiner dawg into her va-jay-jay)
This one’s called “The American Flag is Purple & Gold and My Weiner is Cool”
Bringing it home, it’s a Lake Show day
Gotta give my props to the U.S. and A
Dwight, Nash and Antawn, uh, that’s not too bad
Now lick my schlong girl and tickle them nads
FREESTYLIN’ AND PROFILIN’
July 18th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 18th, 2012 at 9:19 am
Tyvon Branch’s new contract gives us 5.159 million in cap space.
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Hmmmmmm
July 18th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 18th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
The transaction freed the Raiders from allotting the $6.2 million for this season’s salary cap and helped them clear almost $4 million in cap room.
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almost $4 million, Steve ??
DAV reported $5.1 million in savings earlier today, didn’t he?
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That’s what I read. Straight from Paul Guttierez..
July 18th, 2012 at 2:53 pm
I reported lol..
July 18th, 2012 at 2:53 pm
Branch has started all 48 regular-season games the past three seasons. He performed at a Pro Bowl-caliber level last season, by some accounts. Even so, he said, he still hasn’t reached his potential.
“The sky’s the limit, as long as you work hard, put forth the effort and you want to become great,” Branch said. “The sky’s the limit. I’m just going to keep working and, hopefully, improve my game.”
Ultimately, Branch said, he is more concerned about helping the Raiders reach the playoffs for the first time in 10 seasons.
“I don’t really have any personal goals,” Branch said. “I just want to win. Whatever it takes to win, I’m all about winning. That’s the most important thing; whatever it’s going to take for us to get in the big dance. We want to be a part of the tournament this year, get into the playoffs.”
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I like Branch’s attitude!!
Pure comedy from Corkran right here though:
“He performed at a Pro Bowl-caliber level last season”
July 18th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
AGENDA.
July 18th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
sorry for the confusion.
I forgot we already had just over a million in cap space. Add $4 million = 5.159 million in cap space
Corkran & Gutierrez were both right!!
July 18th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
nite gents!!
July 18th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 18th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
sorry for the confusion.
I forgot we already had just over a million in cap space. Add $4 million = 5.159 million in cap space
Corkran & Gutierrez were both right!!
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My “report” was accurate.
July 18th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
PM PARTY POSSE IN FULL EFFECT
Yo DJ, let’s get my new jam on the air this weekend
But first you must announce – “The first 10 listeners to fax their credit card #s into the station will be eligible to win a used Magnum signed by the Beeech Dawg”
I bet I can wrestle one away from a stripper, they think of them as trophies.
I have no doubt we can turn those credit card #s into huge bags of weed in just a few short hours
July 18th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
“I don’t really have any personal goals,” Branch said. “I just want to win. Whatever it takes to win, I’m all about winning. That’s the most important thing; whatever it’s going to take for us to get in the big dance. We want to be a part of the tournament this year, get into the playoffs.”
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You hear that, lady Tomlinson? Winning is most important! Kudos to Tyvon.
July 18th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 18th, 2012 at 2:53 pm
Pure comedy from Corkran right here though:
“He performed at a Pro Bowl-caliber level last season”
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I guess he did, they Franchised him.
July 18th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
I am stoked with the signing. Branch isn’t perfect but he BRINGS it every day every down…
But I am still a little confused about the capology on this one. $28mill by 4 years with only a $5.2mil signing bonus seems like a $5.6 per year salary plus the $1.3 bonus spread over the term of 4 yrs. Sounds like $6.9mil cap number…is it all in incentives? I don’t get it….
July 18th, 2012 at 3:35 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 18th, 2012 at 2:53 pm
Pure comedy from Corkran right here though:
“He performed at a Pro Bowl-caliber level last season”
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I guess he did, they Franchised him.
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Are you saying every player that is Franchised played at a pro-bowl level last year? Not disputng Branch, love the signing.
July 18th, 2012 at 3:45 pm
Branch has it all right, Just Win Baby! Keep the body strong, give every down all you’ve got and you will probably win your match-up the majority of the time.
July 18th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
Any see the Sportcenter Special on the AFC West? They spent half the episode talking about the Chiefs and how they were riddled with injuries and completely ignored the Raiders. It’s not surprising, but I’m still annoyed.
Tentatively love the Branch signing. I can’t wait to see how he responds to the new system.
July 18th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
http://www.raiders.com/news/article-1/Player-Profile-DE-Jack-Crawford/98028d45-4071-4f56-a13e-16d67b91169f
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Most have probably read this, but Crawford seems to be humble and honored to play in the league..kind of guys Reg likes.
July 18th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
@21
Missed that special, but they’ll always hate on the Nation.
July 18th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
Papertiger418 Says:
July 18th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
Any see the Sportcenter Special on the AFC West? They spent half the episode talking about the Chiefs and how they were riddled with injuries and completely ignored the Raiders. It’s not surprising, but I’m still annoyed.
Tentatively love the Branch signing. I can’t wait to see how he responds to the new system.
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TxRaider210 Says:
July 18th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
@21
Missed that special, but they’ll always hate on the Nation.
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Good! It will make victory that much sweeter!
July 18th, 2012 at 4:05 pm
@24 Oh Yeah, gonna be a great year I think!
July 18th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
Any Kell meltdowns lately?
July 18th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
I wonder if the Ref lockout could help the Raiders? I am not saying that the are intentionally biased, but aren’t the refs expecting the Raiders year after year to committ dumb penalities? So they are expecting it and looking for it?
July 18th, 2012 at 4:11 pm
I hope they get all new refs. Could only help the Raiders.
July 18th, 2012 at 4:14 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
July 18th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
I wonder if the Ref lockout could help the Raiders? I am not saying that the are intentionally biased, but aren’t the refs expecting the Raiders year after year to committ dumb penalities? So they are expecting it and looking for it?
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It could end up being a nightmare, but I think it helps the Raiders either way. They should be worried about learning how to ref in the league and not have time to be haters.lol
July 18th, 2012 at 4:17 pm
Have you guys seen this?
Power (Dis)Play? Teams In Black Draw More Penalties
I know, Phukk Hockey!
http://www.npr.org/2012/04/26/151383136/power-dis-play-teams-in-black-draw-more-penalties
July 18th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
Dutch, that’s been a theory for years now. I remember back in the 90s on NBC, Frank Duford had a piece about how the Raiders should change their colors to pink in order to get better calls.
July 18th, 2012 at 4:33 pm
We only wear black half the time…and by your rational….we would be flagged less in white uniforms…we have to take the time to assume some responsibility Dutch
Sell crazy someplace else…educated minds who conduct studies like this are a major problem worldwide!
July 18th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
The strong safety’s new contract is worth $26.6 million with $17.6 million guaranteed, including a $5.6-million signing bonus. But while his deal offers cap relief for this year — dropping from the franchise tag of $6.212 million to the $2.4 million — Branch’s cap number for 2013 jumps to $10.9 million.
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Branch’s cap hit for this year is great, but he better have a great year because I don’t think Reggie will have a problem cutting Branch next year with his cap hit at almost $11 million. That’s a lot of cash for a safety…
July 18th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
Favorite safty( strong or free) scince Eric Turner. Check that Anthony dorrset is up there too.
July 18th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
and stu
July 18th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
We only wear black half the time…and by your rational….we would be flagged less in white uniforms…we have to take the time to assume some responsibility Dutch
Sell crazy someplace else…educated minds who conduct studies like this are a major problem worldwide!
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You got me, I was indirectly advocating for the pink uniforms. You are right, “Crazy” does not belong on a Raider blog site, we are the rational fans!
July 18th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 18th, 2012 at 1:35 pm
Los Mal Ojos Says:
July 18th, 2012 at 1:30 pm
kk, your thoughts on the astroid mining venture.
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I’m unaware of such venture, your thoughts. Lol.
//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////You post items from news sources sll the time, and yet never heard of Camerons’ involvrment in an astroid mining venture?
July 18th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
That should say rationale….not rational…and I’m not calling you out Dutch…I appreciate the comment….just completely disagree with this type of thinking….
July 18th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
“big dance”, “tournament”. Sounds like Tyvon thinks he is a basketball player
July 18th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
AFC West talk going on on NFL live with CC and Marcellus Wiley…CC going on to say that DHB will be the break out receiver in the league this year
July 18th, 2012 at 5:15 pm
ItzSteve Says:
July 18th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
Branch’s cap hit for this year is great, but he better have a great year because I don’t think Reggie will have a problem cutting Branch next year with his cap hit at almost $11 million. That’s a lot of cash for a safety…
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They’ll have to restructure to keep him next year. No way he gets that much unless he’s a pro bowl starter
July 18th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
I can only imagine that the Raiders’ penalty issues have skewed the stats on teams in black uniforms.
New officials would help us, I think. Still, I have this nagging feeling that the Raiders will be the ones who end Manning’s career, which would incur the league’s wrath all over again. Really hope it doesn’t happen that way.
July 18th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
If I was going to buy a new Jersey it definitely would be a ‘Branch’ Jersey..
but I refrain, because each time I buy one, the name on the back suddenly sucks, gets traded or leave Oakland..
July 18th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
I am so hoping that the Raiders are the ones to take out Manning for good. That would be sweeeet
July 18th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
I’m not sure that we’re going to restructure Branch after this year unless he completely underwhelms at the safety position. As far as the cap hit is concerned, I think Reggie’s going to have a lot more room to play with next season, which would make Branch’s contract a non-issue.
July 18th, 2012 at 5:20 pm
I am so hoping that the Raiders are the ones to take out Manning for good. That would be sweeeet//////////////////////////////////////////////////////Without hurting anyone of course.
July 18th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
Manning would be hurting himself. Anyone his age, who is financially secure, should not be attempting to come back from a neck injury as severe as his. Dumb life decision from a guy who is supposed to be smart
July 18th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
I’d love to see the Raiders stick it to Manning; I just don’t want it to backfire on us and ruin our relative credibility with the league.
July 18th, 2012 at 5:30 pm
Manning’s career will be over soon anyway. He is old and slow and the Donkey’s have a crappy OLine….
July 18th, 2012 at 5:30 pm
One good, clean blindside hit and it’s all over. Could happen opening day with their line
July 18th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
I keep thinking about the Brady injury against the Chiefs. It’s going to be like that with Manning.
July 18th, 2012 at 5:42 pm
I don’t want to see Manning carried out. I want the Raiders to be better .
July 18th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 18th, 2012 at 5:42 pm
I don’t want to see Manning carried out. I want the Raiders to be better .
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I agree
July 18th, 2012 at 5:45 pm
Walking off the field with his head hanging down, beaten by a better Raider team.
July 18th, 2012 at 5:49 pm
Keep preachin’
July 18th, 2012 at 5:56 pm
Manning will get injured before he faces the Raiders.
July 18th, 2012 at 5:56 pm
Then the NFL media comes on board.
July 18th, 2012 at 6:01 pm
what a dik
http://deadspin.com/5925209/why-your-team-sucks-2012-oakland-raiders
July 18th, 2012 at 6:01 pm
From an organizational business standpoint I like the NFL Media on board…..from a personal standpoint the NFL media can go f’ itself!
July 18th, 2012 at 6:10 pm
Y’all are hilarious. Since when did the Raiders give a damn about what the rest of the league/country thinks? That’s a core part of what it means to be a Raider
July 18th, 2012 at 6:13 pm
Eggs
July 18th, 2012 at 6:13 pm
C2E Says:
July 18th, 2012 at 6:01 pm
what a dik
http://deadspin.com/5925209/why-your-team-sucks-2012-oakland-raiders
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Damn. LMAO
July 18th, 2012 at 6:13 pm
Eggs=exactly
July 18th, 2012 at 6:18 pm
SR Raider Says:
July 18th, 2012 at 6:10 pm
Y’all are hilarious. Since when did the Raiders give a damn about what the rest of the league/country thinks? That’s a core part of what it means to be a Raider
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Myths, blah blah blah.
July 18th, 2012 at 6:25 pm
MYTH: a traditional or legendary story, usually concerning some being or hero or event, with or without a determinable basis of fact or a natural explanation.
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I agree with you that it is a myth, but I also “feel” it’s a core part of being a Raider….in my estimation.
July 18th, 2012 at 6:31 pm
Let’s Go Oakland!………….Them Swingin A’s with a smooth come back topped off with Brandon Hicks first ever homer!
Them boys from the East Bay aint nuthin to fk with!
Bout to watch these Dubs shoot the lights out in vegas in another hour……..B@uce!
July 18th, 2012 at 6:31 pm
Al Davis was a master of propaganda.
July 18th, 2012 at 6:34 pm
All of the old Raiders will tell you they didn’t care. I know us fans didn’t. Davidson, Matusak, Stabler, Alzado – they all reveled in it. Al regularly stuck his finger out at Roselle whenever he go the chance.
I do see that part of Al’s legacy living on. It’s part of the fabric of propaganda that Al left
July 18th, 2012 at 6:43 pm
I dont remember AL cutting & pasting radical left wing propaganda in a sports blog.
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KoolKell Says:
July 18th, 2012 at 6:31 pm
Al Davis was a master of propaganda.
July 18th, 2012 at 6:47 pm
Al stuck his finger out at Rozelle because they gave Rozelle the commish job instead of Al.
July 18th, 2012 at 6:49 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 18th, 2012 at 6:47 pm
Al stuck his finger out at Rozelle because they gave Rozelle the commish job instead of Al.
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Really
July 18th, 2012 at 6:49 pm
Yeah Al was a rebel. but like Puppet said, from an organizational point of view, it don’t hurt to have support from the NFL media. Maybe even get a the benefit of a call.
July 18th, 2012 at 6:53 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 18th, 2012 at 6:49 pm
Maybe even get a the benefit of a call.
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You mean like the tuck rule? Never going to happen. Team name is the Raiders. Team logo is a pirate who plays football. Team colors, silver and black, are gang and biker colors. You will never get past that symbolism. Better to embrace it and stick it to the man!
July 18th, 2012 at 6:53 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 18th, 2012 at 6:31 pm
Al Davis was a master of propaganda.
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Please do not blaspheme Mr Davis. What you call propaganda I call his Commitment to the Oakland Raiders. What else could the man talk about? He was all Silver and Black and Humanitarian.
We are not fair weather fans. We roll with the high and roll with the low.
Code Raidah
July 18th, 2012 at 6:57 pm
Mr Green Says:
July 18th, 2012 at 6:53 pm
We are not fair weather fans. We roll with the high and roll with the low
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One of the things I appreciate about this blog. We’re all in it through thick and thin
July 18th, 2012 at 7:12 pm
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July 18th, 2012 at 7:13 pm
SR:
You said it, brah — so when the Raiders finally hoist the Super Bowl trophy in a couple of years and Mark and Reggie are bein’ all polite for the cameras and everybody else, we can all just sit back to the rest of the NFL and say “F Y’all!!”
July 18th, 2012 at 7:14 pm
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July 18th, 2012 at 7:16 pm
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July 18th, 2012 at 7:16 pm
Exactly. Particularly if they try to shame us for Manning going down. When in reality it was his fault for playing in the first place
July 18th, 2012 at 7:30 pm
Sweet!
July 18th, 2012 at 7:38 pm
Pretty damn good Mr Green!
July 18th, 2012 at 7:40 pm
The prognosticators are all calling for San Diego to win the West. Last I checked, we’ve beaten them 4 out of the last 6 times (should’ve been 5 wins, but we wuz robbed on a Monday night!)
July 18th, 2012 at 7:41 pm
Hey Mr. Green:
Can you give us a “Just Win Baby!”?
July 18th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 18th, 2012 at 7:38 pm
Pretty damn good Mr Green!
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July 18th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
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July 18th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
I think propaganda would apply more to an individual or entity had no success.
Committment to Excellence meant something and had backing at one time. The last 10 yrs. it may have rung a bit hollow.
“Just Win Baby” is something uniquely Raiders and shouldn’t be dropped just becuz we haven’t lived up to it for awhile now.
“Monsters of the Midway” is the Bears. It will always be the Bears. Should they just abandon it cuz they haven’t won a SB since ‘85?
How over used is the “Terrible Towell”? Or worse yet “America’s Team”? Raiders have won 4 times as many playoff games since 1995 than Dallas and that’s even with Oakland going through the worst dark ages in our history.
I find the angry, smarmy, “i’m too hip for the room” smartalekness of that Deadspin writer to be annoying and classless.
His edgy, hardcore, angry white boy schtick is just that…an act designed to get people talking about him. By getting people to hate him…he’s getting some run for his career like Colin Cowherd.
He’s probably succeeded.
July 18th, 2012 at 8:03 pm
Nice Green! Remember – 8:09 is party time. Jamaican style
July 18th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
I have been drinking, but I think I am hallucinating as I see some pretty weird stuff in here right now.
July 18th, 2012 at 8:11 pm
http://deadspin.com/5925209/why-your-team-sucks-2012-oakland-raiders
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Can’t say I disagree with him on some of the first part. The Palmer trade was stupid as hell. I wish Al could have hung on a little bit longer.
July 18th, 2012 at 8:17 pm
I don’t get all of the negativity from these so called experts. ESPN, NBC, FOX. No one is giving the Raiders a shot at a winning record much less a playoff run. With all their injuries they still went 8-8. Reggie improved the roster and the attitude and DA is no nonsense. I for one tend to go negative but I am stoked about this team and its direction. Can’t wait to silence the haters.
July 18th, 2012 at 8:24 pm
joker94583 Says:
July 18th, 2012 at 8:17 pm
I don’t get all of the negativity from these so called experts. ESPN, NBC, FOX. No one is giving the Raiders a shot at a winning record much less a playoff run. With all their injuries they still went 8-8. Reggie improved the roster and the attitude and DA is no nonsense. I for one tend to go negative but I am stoked about this team and its direction. Can’t wait to silence the haters.
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Not quite sure about the negativity either. The division looks wide open to me. But people are down on Palmer, and rightly so. He has a lot to prove.
July 18th, 2012 at 8:32 pm
1. its raider hate, naturally
2. people think a new regime = rebuilding … this isn’t the case
3. pundits love to emphasize the 16 int’s Carson had last year and they say he’s done because of it.
what they fail to realize he was in a joke trick play gimmick offense that forced him to chuck the ball down field more often than not. he’s now in an efficient WCO that is no BS.
July 18th, 2012 at 8:35 pm
Yeah, Palmers getting very little respect.
July 18th, 2012 at 8:41 pm
oh yea on 95.7 today .. Paul something that founded a fantasy league was citing he ‘hates Palmer because he threw picks and hucked the ball down field’ … FAILED TO MENTION he’s not in that kind of offense anymore. i bursted out laughing.. he’ll make a great fantasy QB this year for someone waiting until the later rounds for a QB. the man will not throw a lot of picks this year, period. especially with a good possession receiver like Criner.
July 18th, 2012 at 8:41 pm
Criner = TJ Housh 2.0 … fitting he’s with Palmer.
July 18th, 2012 at 8:42 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 18th, 2012 at 5:45 pm
Walking off the field with his head hanging down, beaten by a better Raider team.
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Agreed.
July 18th, 2012 at 8:45 pm
As much as I despise the angry, “i’m cool and you’re not” snarkiness of guys like that Deadspin “writer” it is all just a part of his schtick.
There’s an equally disparaging Chargers version of “Why Your Team Sucks” that you guys might find more entertaining.
deadspin.com/…/why-your-team-sucks-2012-san-diego-chargers
Also, this gem from 2009 on the Steelers is pretty good too:
deadspin.com/5354828/why-your-team-sucks-pittsburgh-steelers
Here I am promoting the dikweed.
July 18th, 2012 at 8:46 pm
Sorry. Those links don’t work.
Just google it if you’d like.
It’s funny when it’s someone else.
July 18th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
C2E Says:
July 18th, 2012 at 6:01 pm
what a dik
http://deadspin.com/5925209/why-your-team-sucks-2012-oakland-raiders
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What a classless clown. And using a pic taken of Raider fans bowing their heads in silence. This was probably taken from the Browns game last year. This guy is a lowlife douchebag.
July 18th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
“This guy is a lowlife douchebag.”
I agree 100% and whats even worse is a fat dumb inbreed simpleton named Raiderdebo agreed with the guy and the has the nerve to call himself a Raider fan…
Post # 90
“Can’t say I disagree with him on some of the first part.”
July 18th, 2012 at 9:20 pm
http://deadspin.com/5924462/why-your-team-sucks-2012-san-diego-chargers
Try that.
July 18th, 2012 at 9:55 pm
‘Sup fellas.
Debo…
I don’t get it. I don’t know if anybody, yourself or Priest included, pulled for JaMarcus Russell anymore than I did. Had high hopes for the kid. Unlike most Raider fans, who seemingly want to see him living under a bridge, penniless…I hope he gets his life together and gets another shot with an NFL. Doubt it’s gonna happen however.
I don’t understand your constant bashing of Carson Palmer though. Like AL wouldn’t have gone for that trade.
Quite the contrary, IMO. A former No. 1 overall pick and Heisman trophy winner. A big blonde bomber with nice touch on the deep ball. From USC, no less.
Hell, sounds like Big Al’s wet dream if you ask me.
I though Carson performed quite admiarably under some difficult circumstances last year. Learning on the fly.
With the division title on the line, Palmer throws for 400+.
Did he get the win you once asked? What the hell else was he supposed to do, run out onto the field and tackle Tolbert?
Give me a break.
Look for Carson Palmer to have a big year in 2012.
July 18th, 2012 at 10:05 pm
@ 103
Awesome
July 18th, 2012 at 10:11 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
July 18th, 2012 at 6:31 pm
Let’s Go Seattle!………….Them Swingin GAY’s with a smooth come back topped off with Brandon Pricks first ever homer!
Them boys from the Bay aint nuthin to fk with!
Bout to watch them Seahawks go all the way this year!!
July 18th, 2012 at 10:15 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
July 18th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
“This Raiders Team is a lowlife douchebag.”
I agree 100% and whats even better is I think the Raiders will only win 2 games!!!!
July 18th, 2012 at 10:16 pm
The Big Banana Says:
July 18th, 2012 at 8:42 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 18th, 2012 at 5:45 pm
Walking off the field with his head hanging down, beaten by a better Seahawks team.
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Agreed.
July 18th, 2012 at 10:18 pm
Raidertbone Says:
July 18th, 2012 at 7:40 pm
The prognosticators are all calling for San Diego to win the West. Last I checked, we’ve never beaten them (should’ve been 1 wins, but we wuz robbed on a Monday night!)GOOOO CHARGERS!!!!
July 18th, 2012 at 10:22 pm
You tell ‘em Dvrick.
July 18th, 2012 at 10:27 pm
106.dvrick Says:
July 18th, 2012 at 10:15 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
July 18th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
“This Raiders Team is a lowlife douchebag.”
I agree 100% and whats even better is I think the Raiders will only win 2 games!!!!
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if they’re lucky.
finally someone making some sense around here.
its about time.
July 18th, 2012 at 10:34 pm
@103
Nice Post….
The last game against SD the biggest play occurred on the last play of the first half….
AND AS USUAL….
it was simply a coaching mistake…
We passed the ball to the short left flat and were tackled in bounds on a 3rd and 1 with :11 secs left and no timeouts and failed to get a field goal attempt in a game which we were down 11 points.
This had nothing to do with our players.
This team had to try to win last season in spite of its coaching all year long.
Case in point: We kicked off to start the first and 2nd half in our 1st pre season game last season. How is this not brought up EVERY DAM day? I’ve never seen a team be so ignorant on ANY level of football EVER!
The Coaching has been a huge issue for years…..HUGE!
July 18th, 2012 at 10:35 pm
Diverdick
Hijacked my handle, eh? Lol.
July 18th, 2012 at 10:36 pm
Remains to be seen how this years staff will do….and it doesn’t have anything to do with their coaching ability in camp….
It has everything to do with how they call the game….how they adjust….and how they react to our success or lack of it!
July 18th, 2012 at 10:41 pm
Backstage,
I agree about the coaching mistakes but don’t u think that dang defense should’ve been able to make a darn stop with SD at the 1/2 yd. line?
Seymour? Branch? ANYBODY?
July 18th, 2012 at 10:41 pm
Backstageatapuppetshow,
Thank our darling AD for the coaching problems. It all derived his dementia. The reason he traded away Gruden is that he didn’t want to out shined by Gruden: this holds true for all the HCs and Coordinators since Gruden.
The question I ask is how can a pimp coach a professional football team? And that is all Hue was, a pimp.
July 18th, 2012 at 10:44 pm
Oh yes. Look how Buffalo dismantled us in the 2nd half. Or Denver.. or….too many to mention.
July 18th, 2012 at 10:47 pm
Or Detroit
July 18th, 2012 at 10:50 pm
The 99 yard drive by SD was a product of a number of factors…starting with coaching…ending in denial.
The draw play by Tolbert was a killer….the Kick Off prior to that drive was a safety IMO but that’s just me complaining.
Our staff failed to realize that the Chargers had nothing to lose that day….not a thing…and we played like we had nothing to win….
Our staff did not prepare our team and instead used the same scheme we implemented the 1st game (Thursday Night). The didn’t factor in that Uncle Norv would actually adjust his game plan.
July 18th, 2012 at 10:52 pm
Detroit drove about 90yds on that last drive, too.
July 18th, 2012 at 10:53 pm
We were constantly out coached following half time…
Let me be the first to tell YOU ALL if you do not know….our team is loaded with talent….on OFFENSE, DEFENSE, and SPECIAL TEAMS.
We have a QB.
If we get 12 good starts out of DMAC and just average coaching we make the playoffs without a problem.
If we get great coaching, which we might….we can compete with anyone….
July 18th, 2012 at 10:56 pm
This team has lacked quality coaching for 10 years…that’s a fact.
I am not here to place blame on this fact.
I have said it for years. So have many of you.
This team and organization is a ticking time bomb….just waiting to explode.
July 18th, 2012 at 11:03 pm
Playcalling, adjustments, Rookie Coach…………
July 18th, 2012 at 11:04 pm
Al Saunders.
July 18th, 2012 at 11:05 pm
Backstage, I liketh the words you speaketh.
July 18th, 2012 at 11:07 pm
115,
Hardline. What’s up?
July 18th, 2012 at 11:08 pm
I very seldom take what the talking heads at the different networks seriously.For years when evaluating the Raiders they said the same thing.The team is very talented but the organization will prevent it from succeeding.This year we won’t succeed because we have to ‘rebuild’ a team lacking talent.Which one is it?
July 18th, 2012 at 11:09 pm
112.KoolKell Says:
July 18th, 2012 at 10:35 pm
Diverdick
Hijacked my handle, eh? Lol.
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There really should be something that someone can do about that.
July 18th, 2012 at 11:10 pm
You’d think the talking heads would be all over the Raiders,now that Al is gone…………..
July 18th, 2012 at 11:11 pm
They don’t seem to respect Palmer, or maybe it’s DA?
July 18th, 2012 at 11:13 pm
Or Maybe they just think its going to take time for the Raiders to recover.
July 18th, 2012 at 11:17 pm
Lefty,
For years we’ve been hearing about “wait till Al Davis goes away” etc. etc.
Well…Now that he’s gone suddenly our 8-8 team ( 2yrs. straight) and one of the youngest is all of a sudden gonna be way worse without him?
July 18th, 2012 at 11:17 pm
12 days till the first practice!
Gnite Gents.
July 18th, 2012 at 11:18 pm
128.KoolKell Says:
July 18th, 2012 at 11:10 pm
You’d think the talking heads would be all over the Raiders,now that Al is gone…………..
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You beat me to it.
July 18th, 2012 at 11:21 pm
It’ll all play out on the field.
Concensus from the media is we suck….bad.
Whatever.
July 18th, 2012 at 11:35 pm
Buckeyeraider Says:
July 18th, 2012 at 9:55 pm
‘Sup fellas.
Debo…
I don’t get it. I don’t know if anybody, yourself or Priest included, pulled for JaMarcus Russell anymore than I did. Had high hopes for the kid. Unlike most Raider fans, who seemingly want to see him living under a bridge, penniless…I hope he gets his life together and gets another shot with an NFL. Doubt it’s gonna happen however.
I don’t understand your constant bashing of Carson Palmer though. Like AL wouldn’t have gone for that trade.
Quite the contrary, IMO. A former No. 1 overall pick and Heisman trophy winner. A big blonde bomber with nice touch on the deep ball. From USC, no less.
Hell, sounds like Big Al’s wet dream if you ask me.
I though Carson performed quite admiarably under some difficult circumstances last year. Learning on the fly.
With the division title on the line, Palmer throws for 400+.
Did he get the win you once asked? What the hell else was he supposed to do, run out onto the field and tackle Tolbert?
Give me a break.
Look for Carson Palmer to have a big year in 2012.
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Excellent post, Buckeye.
July 18th, 2012 at 11:37 pm
As long as the media continues to irk some of you cats, they win.
July 18th, 2012 at 11:43 pm
The Nation doesn’t need any media love. In fact, we expect just the opossite. They despise us because of our devotion and wide-ranging global fanbase. Let them eat it and fester in their own stench.
Fans of other teams too. They also love hating on us. Let them wallow in it. Just laugh in their face and say ‘I’d make a comeback, but I haven’t given your team or fans much thought at all. You’re an afterthought. But keep hating on my Raiders if it helps your situation.’
July 18th, 2012 at 11:44 pm
Ask each of the other 3 teams which is their most hated rival and they’ll all give the same answer. That, my friends, is a thing of beauty. Al Davis created that.
July 18th, 2012 at 11:45 pm
that is, each of the other 3 teams *in our division
July 18th, 2012 at 11:48 pm
I love Haters!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRMy-ts1s1Y&feature=related
July 18th, 2012 at 11:51 pm
Backstageatapuppetshow Says:
July 18th, 2012 at 11:48 pm
I love Haters!
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That’s it. Embrace it! It pisses them off.
July 19th, 2012 at 12:47 am
Dang. Despite all the Gloom and Doom, we are STILL undefeated so far this season. How awesome is THAT???
July 19th, 2012 at 12:53 am
The only thing good about losing is that it gets rid of the fair weather fans. Hopefully, the team jells and competes for a playoff spot. Who cares what espn and the like say about our team? How often do their predictions come to fruition?
July 19th, 2012 at 12:59 am
Hey Steve…..We appreciate the new post and all, but WTF ever happened to the story about the late, great #83, Big Ben??? You hauled ass in the midst of a weekly chat to jump on the story….than NADA. C’mon man.
July 19th, 2012 at 1:14 am
WARNING****POLITICAL RANT*******
I wouldn’t do this if I didn’t know how much it bothered some people………….
Anybody watch Leno tonight? Weird how Newt Gingrich got so roundly boo’d while “Snookie” got what sounded like a standing ovation.
Dang. Despite whether you agree or disagree with Newt’s politics, the man presents himself in a pretty educated light. He’s by no means my “savior”, but at least the MF’er has some brains. He got about a 50-50 applause/boo ratio during the introductions, while NY Times “Best-Selling Author’ Snookie got unanimous approval from the studio audience. No wonder the world has so little confidence in the ability of the American people to decide our own fate.
at least I’m old and won’t have to endure too many years of torture.
July 19th, 2012 at 1:17 am
“The transaction freed the Raiders from allotting the $6.2 million for this season’s salary cap and helped them clear almost $4 million in cap room.”
Now maybe “O” will finally cut Shane a break!!!
Love ya “O”
July 19th, 2012 at 1:20 am
Man, even in the good old days of seducing aged alchoholic tramps in the low-end establishments of Atlantic City (pre-gaming days) during my misguided youth, I STILL would have spent the better part of any drunken, testosterone-fueled day of my time on the beach throwing red flags at the hideous apparition known as Snookie.Holy Crap, America. Where’s yer freeking brains?
July 19th, 2012 at 1:27 am
TB up the middle for at least the next four years gives the Raiders something they’ve needed for quite a while. Stability and competence at SS. Big things ahead for TB. Big things.
July 19th, 2012 at 1:31 am
I guess the night-shift is napping.
Time to let Mr. Tanqueray tuck me in.
Good night nation. Sleep Well. Your elected officials might have your back, but the RAIDERS are standing by to slap the snot out of any body who wanders into Oakland wearing the wrong color uniform.
Season ticket holder for life. Bite Me.
July 19th, 2012 at 2:18 am
Newt is a douche bag. He got booed because he is on the left coast, ya heard. Newt take your sorry a$$ back to the bible belt.
July 19th, 2012 at 2:26 am
#151:
News Flash for ya:
If Newt had a big round ass, nice fake boobies and was a trashy slut ho, he also would’ve gotten a standing ovation – this is Hollywood, my man!
July 19th, 2012 at 2:30 am
Always remember this:
AFC West – 6 Super Bowl titles
Raiders – 3
Denver – 2
K.C. – 1
San Diego – 0
Whose the best franchise?
Holla!
July 19th, 2012 at 3:17 am
[...] Branch talks about new contract, future The Raiders guaranteed strong safety Tyvon Branch more than $17.1 million by converting his contract from a one-year deal to a four-year pact. On Wednesday, Branch said his peace of mind was just as important as the money. “It gives you that (comfo… [...]
July 19th, 2012 at 5:53 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Like the attitude! No personal goals but to win and help the team make it back to the playoffs!
Gotta love the team first attitude!
July 19th, 2012 at 5:54 am
Now maybe “O” will finally cut Shane a break!!!
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LOL @ RND
Raider O will not rest until Shane & his family out out on the street, even dispite the cap savings from other players. you know this
same with DAV & Giordano
July 19th, 2012 at 5:59 am
Branch’s cap hit for this year is great, but he better have a great year because I don’t think Reggie will have a problem cutting Branch next year with his cap hit at almost $11 million. That’s a lot of cash for a safety…
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@ Itz
no kidding!
However, you have to count the proration of existing years left on the contract. My man Bcz should have those figures
It probably wont SAVE any money, cutting #33 next offseason if he doesn’t perform this year.
July 19th, 2012 at 6:02 am
My “report” was accurate.
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@DAV
they usually are, unless you’re talking about player evaluation
July 19th, 2012 at 6:03 am
The Cleveland Cavaliers may have inched ahead of the Houston Rockets as a facilitator in a potential trade that would send Orlando Magic center Dwight Howard to the Los Angeles Lakers, sources said Wednesday. One source familiar with the talks, though, cautioned not to make too much of that shift just yet…
The Cavaliers would land Lakers center Andrew Bynum for a package of draft picks and veteran power forward Anderson Varejao, according to one league source. The Lakers would receive Howard for Bynum. Orlando would get Varejao and draft picks. The source said this was merely the framework of a deal being discussed.
Ric Bucher (ESPN)
July 19th, 2012 at 6:04 am
Dwight Howard is ready to join Lakers. If traded to Los Angeles Howard will re-sign long-term with team after 2012-13 season.
Chris Broussard (ESPN)
July 19th, 2012 at 6:05 am
Orlando, while willing to trade Howard, is not in a rush. The Magic will wait until they get a deal they like. The Lakers remained dogged in their pursuit of Howard late into the night Wednesday and plan to continue discussions into Thursday, a league source told ESPNLosAngeles.com, but the longer the process drags on, the more it complicates their other offseason business and forces them to consider moving on.
Ramona Shelburne (ESPN)
July 19th, 2012 at 6:08 am
good morning Hwnrdr & Tbone !!
July 19th, 2012 at 6:09 am
Raiders 2011-12 compared to 2012-13:
GM: Improved
Coaching: Improved
O-Line: Improved
WR: Same to Improved
TE: Same
RB: Same (Lost Bush but McFadden is healthy)
QB: Improved
D-Line: Improved
LB: Same or Improved
S: Same
CB: Same or Not as Good
July 19th, 2012 at 6:10 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 6:08 am
good morning Hwnrdr & Tbone !!
Good Morning Rockstar!
Gabby on vacay?
July 19th, 2012 at 6:10 am
POST-136 IS ON THE MONEY.GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S..
July 19th, 2012 at 6:10 am
JR Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 6:09 am
Raiders 2011-12 compared to 2012-13:
GM: Improved
Coaching: Improved
O-Line: Improved
WR: Same to Improved
TE: Same
RB: Same (Lost Bush but McFadden is healthy)
QB: Improved
D-Line: Improved
LB: Same or Improved
S: Same
CB: Same or Not as Good
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I can agree with this, but think the CB’s will be better than last year.
July 19th, 2012 at 6:10 am
To me CB is biggest question mark, then uncertainty with LB and TE positions.
July 19th, 2012 at 6:10 am
http://www.csnbayarea.com/football-oakland-raiders/raiders-talk/Miles-Burris-a-diamond-in-the-rough?blockID=742467&feedID=2801
News is few and far between,…..
July 19th, 2012 at 6:12 am
Please end the Dwight Howard talks!!!!
This has to be one of the most boring sports “Headlines” right now.
Right up there with college conference alignments, realignments, and alignments of the realignments.
I would also add #1 overall draft pick contract talks. They actually had this as one of the top stories on ESPN last night, Luck’s contract talks.
Basically it was, “he is not signed now, everyone expects him to sign soon, there is no chance of holdout, talks are close and we expect something soon”.
So……..what’s the news in that?
July 19th, 2012 at 6:14 am
Miles Burris wasn’t exactly a can’t miss player in the 2012 NFL Draft. In fact, NFL teams elected to pass on him 128 times.
Greg Cosell thinks they missed something.
The NFL Films and ESPN NFL analyst told Yahoo Sports he considers Burris a “diamond in the rough” and “one of my favorite players.”
The Raiders selected Burris, an outside linebacker from San Diego State, in the fourth round. Burris excelled with the Aztecs last season, leading them with 78 tackles, eight sacks and three fumble recoveries. Burris’ play helped lead San Diego State to an 8-4 record and a berth in the New Orleans Bowl.
Cosell said he likes Burris’ versatility and even thought he could play middle linebacker. However, Cosell admitted Burris will need to adapt one of his greatest strengths at the college level to succeed in the NFL.
“The issue he faces is that he rushed the quarterback a lot, and he did that very well at San Diego State, but he was a relentless kind of rusher who showed some power,” Cosell said. “He wasn’t a bend-the-edge and get low kind of rusher. So I don’t know if he’s a pure pass rusher in the NFL.”
For an example of a successful NFL pass-rushing linebacker, Burris need only look around the locker room. Rolando McClain recorded five sacks for the Raiders last season, just his second in the NFL, and his 99 tackles were second most on the team.
Colin Becht (CSNBayArea.com)
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thanks Buck!!
July 19th, 2012 at 6:15 am
I have CB as my biggest concern (we are seriously about 1-2 injuries away from getting Lito back on the bat phone), then followed by RB depth.
LB is a concern as well, but between Rolando, Curry, Burris and Wheeler, we ought to be able to get AT LEAST two good LB’s out of the that, and figure out the rest.
July 19th, 2012 at 6:16 am
Burris is getting dangerously close to the guy who is considered “underrated” so much, that eventually he becomes overrated.
Let’s all not talk about him for a month and let things and expectations simmer just a tad.
July 19th, 2012 at 6:17 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 6:15 am
I have CB as my biggest concern (we are seriously about 1-2 injuries away from getting Lito back on the bat phone), then followed by RB depth.
LB is a concern as well, but between Rolando, Curry, Burris and Wheeler, we ought to be able to get AT LEAST two good LB’s out of the that, and figure out the rest.
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I have a good feeling about Bartell, think he has a point to prove, like Spencer. Chekwa may be the answer if Spencer doesn’t look like starting material imo.
July 19th, 2012 at 6:18 am
What the heck happened to Louis Rankin? That guy used to play decent in the pre-season, then get placed on the practice squad.
July 19th, 2012 at 6:20 am
To me CB is biggest question mark, then uncertainty with LB and TE positions.
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CB = Bartell, Spencer, DVD, Chekwa
then pick one of:
Conroy Black
Terrail Lambert
Pat Lee
Bryan McCann
Chaz Powell
I’m not the least bit concerned!!
July 19th, 2012 at 6:21 am
Burris is getting dangerously close to the guy who is considered “underrated” so much, that eventually he becomes overrated.
Let’s all not talk about him for a month and let things and expectations simmer just a tad.
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hopes not the same thing as expectations I think
July 19th, 2012 at 6:21 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 6:20 am
To me CB is biggest question mark, then uncertainty with LB and TE positions.
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CB = Bartell, Spencer, DVD, Chekwa
then pick one of:
Conroy Black
Terrail Lambert
Pat Lee
Bryan McCann
Chaz Powell
I’m not the least bit concerned!!
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I’d like to see Powell make the roster..big CB and has played with Wiz, Stupar and Crawford.
July 19th, 2012 at 6:22 am
I watched part of that New Orleans bowl one night on the road right after the draft, and Burris didn’t really stick out.
Not saying he was awful or too put too much stock in that, but basically his last game he played against Louisana-Lafayette, and didn’t make much of an impact.
Tough to expect the kid to play his next game against Phil Rivers and make a bigger impact, but we shall see.
I anticipate Burris cutting his teeth and having a bigger impact on ST’s the first half of 2012 than on defense.
July 19th, 2012 at 6:23 am
CB = Bartell, Spencer, DVD, Chekwa
then pick one of:
Conroy Black
Terrail Lambert
Pat Lee
Bryan McCann
Chaz Powell
I’m not the least bit concerned!!
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my sarcasm detector is off. you are not the LEAST bit concerned???
July 19th, 2012 at 6:24 am
CB = Bartell, Spencer, DVD, Chekwa
then pick one of:
Conroy Black
Terrail Lambert
Pat Lee
Bryan McCann
Chaz Powell
I’m not the least bit concerned!!
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LOL!!!
Would you like a glass of champagne to go with that Poo-poo platter?
If Bartell gets hurts, we are severely screwed.
July 19th, 2012 at 6:25 am
I think the LB wrecking crew has the most question marks.
McClain – 1st round bust at this point
Wheeler – well versed in the Tampa 2 (anything else?) and looks like a safety
Curry – 1st round bust at this point
Burris – rookie late rounder
Stupar – rookie late rounder
Goethel – injury prone slow white guy, who was a late rounder 3 years ago
Burnett, Kurn & Ihenacho = undrafted
Tarver promises that the new defense will showcase the LB’s and put them in a position to make plays. to get after the QB. We’ll see what happens!!
July 19th, 2012 at 6:27 am
Spencer is a bigger, more physical, cover 2 guy, maybe a poor mans Charles Tillman.
He is not a turn and run corner, so if he is a starter, expect him to get picked on A TON.
We need someone else to emerge as a starter (Chekwa/DVD/Lee) and have Spencer come in on packages that cater to his strengths.
July 19th, 2012 at 6:30 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 6:24 am
CB = Bartell, Spencer, DVD, Chekwa
then pick one of:
Conroy Black
Terrail Lambert
Pat Lee
Bryan McCann
Chaz Powell
I’m not the least bit concerned!!
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LOL!!!
Would you like a glass of champagne to go with that Poo-poo platter?
If Bartell gets hurts, we are severely screwed.
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True there, but keep in mind, if any team’s best CB goes down they will struggle on that side more than likely. Health will be key, but Reg should have some decent back-ups in place.
July 19th, 2012 at 6:31 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 6:27 am
Spencer is a bigger, more physical, cover 2 guy, maybe a poor mans Charles Tillman.
He is not a turn and run corner, so if he is a starter, expect him to get picked on A TON.
We need someone else to emerge as a starter (Chekwa/DVD/Lee) and have Spencer come in on packages that cater to his strengths.
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Agreed..Hope Chekwa wins the starting spot and Spencer plays more on running downs.
July 19th, 2012 at 6:34 am
a secondary’s best friend is a pass rush.
you can’t pass rush, if you can’t stuff the run.
take care of these 2 things and nobody will care who is starting at any of the DB spots – print that
July 19th, 2012 at 6:35 am
thats how the Ravens & Steelers do it every year.
oh yeah, and the Super Bowl champion Giants!!
July 19th, 2012 at 6:42 am
My point with the 2011-12 to 2012-13 comparison is that overall the team DOES look improved.
July 19th, 2012 at 6:43 am
Most seem to agree that the D will be a question mark but the O will definitely be improved.
July 19th, 2012 at 6:47 am
Also, with McFadden’s health in question every year … you have to be concerned about your RB depth!
Jones + Goodson = ???
I like the fact that the zbs is so RB friendly, it can take scrubs and make them 1,000 yard rushers.
Still, JonesGood aren’t between the tackle runners. Have fumble & injury concerns of their own.
July 19th, 2012 at 6:50 am
thats how the Ravens & Steelers do it every year.
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Yeah, that plus having one of the best safeties to ever play the game doesn’t hurt either.
July 19th, 2012 at 6:52 am
the O will definitely be improved.
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@ JR
Jason Campbell, Michael Bush, Rock Cartwright, Chaz Schilens, Kevin Boss, Samson Satele, Stephon Heyer & Hue Jackson aren’t addition by subtraction !!
especially when you replace them with Matt Leinart, Mike Goodson, Owen Schmitt, Juron Criner, Kyle Efaw, Mike Brisiel, Tony Bergstrom & Greg Knapp …
July 19th, 2012 at 6:53 am
Post 170, spot on JFB. I agree 100% and concerned as well in that order.
With being close to the cap, the Regg i feel is just plugging in a handful of guys this year. If he wasn’t limited with $, i’m sure Spencer, Bartell and Goodson wouldn’t be his first choices.
However i do think Bartell and Chekwa would make a decent combo, IF they can stay healthy. These 1 year guys ( Bartell and Spencer) are in a show n prove stage at this point, and i hope they pan out.
Goodson scares me with his fumbling issues and TJ with his light frame concerns me. If Darren and TJ go down with injuries again, i’m not confident in Goodson being the man. I know TJ can be affective, but can he take that pounding all year?
July 19th, 2012 at 6:54 am
thats how the Ravens & Steelers do it every year.
Yeah, that plus having one of the best safeties to ever play the game doesn’t hurt either.
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@ JFB
Tyvon Branch ??
July 19th, 2012 at 6:56 am
I would expect to see Reece get some carries, to lighten the load on D-Mac and the loss of Bush.
I have stated many times, that I believe Goodson was brought in more to replace Rock Cartwright more so than Bush.
July 19th, 2012 at 6:59 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 6:56 am
I would expect to see Reece get some carries, to lighten the load on D-Mac and the loss of Bush.
I have stated many times, that I believe Goodson was brought in more to replace Rock Cartwright more so than Bush.
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I think Reece will get some carries for sure, but also think Goodson will win the 2nd RB spot, technically filling the spot Bush had.
July 19th, 2012 at 7:03 am
speaking of “Poo-poo platters” why is everybody so high on Goodson ??
buying what G123 is selling?
Reggie traded that no talent waste of space Bruce Campbell to get another RB in the fold. Now all of a sudden he’s Marcus Allen!!
July 19th, 2012 at 7:04 am
I hope the Regg knows what he’s doing with the RB situation. But most of all, Darren can’t miss a lot of time. We can’t afford to be one dimenssional on O. Not with basically the same D we trotted out as last year.
Here’s to hoping the problem was just scheme on that side of the ball. The 90 + drives HAS to stop! With a tougher schedule and a number of east coast games, we need to come out strong.
July 19th, 2012 at 7:06 am
@JFB
nice job avoiding that last question. Reggie is paying Tyvon Branch like an Ed Reed or Troy Polamalu.
he was reportedly shackled by Al Davis’ archaic predictable defense. Now he’s in a new scheme with new coaches and expected to burst onto the scene to save the defense wearing a cape & tights, right?
we shouldn’t expect top notch safety play ??
July 19th, 2012 at 7:06 am
Anyone see the picture of Jacoby Ford, Mike Mitchell and Marcel Reece modeling the new Raider gear from Raider Image? We all know that Ford is short, but Reece is the biggest one in that picture!
July 19th, 2012 at 7:06 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 7:03 am
speaking of “Poo-poo platters” why is everybody so high on Goodson ??
buying what G123 is selling?
Reggie traded that no talent waste of space Bruce Campbell to get another RB in the fold. Now all of a sudden he’s Marcus Allen!!
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Yeah the trade was brilliant by Reg..getting a possible 2nd string back for basically nothing. Won’t call Goodson Marcus Allen, but sit back and wait for pre-season to judge his skills.
July 19th, 2012 at 7:07 am
Branch getting the same pay as Reed and Polomalu?
July 19th, 2012 at 7:10 am
hwnrdr Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 7:07 am
Branch getting the same pay as Reed and Polomalu?
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That’s fine with me, for the fact that those guys don’t have as much playing time left or room to improve like Branch does. Bottom line is, we can be sure Branch will give it his all and he knows where he needs to get better.
July 19th, 2012 at 7:10 am
Yeah Hwnrdr, i seen that photo yesterday. I was wondering who the bigger guy was, i didn’t recognize Reece at first. He makes Jacoby look like a dwarf.
July 19th, 2012 at 7:14 am
Just came back in. Good mornin’ crew! Good mornin’ Hwnrdr, Rockstar!
July 19th, 2012 at 7:16 am
If Reggie believes that much in TB33, then I believe as well!
July 19th, 2012 at 7:16 am
D-Mac is so important, we should give him the Barry Bonds-Tim Duncan treatments and just give him halves or even games off to rest.
Seriously!!! Tough road game in Atlanta on turf? Sit it out, lol.
July 19th, 2012 at 7:16 am
Ed Reed
6/27/2006: Signed a six-year, $44.4 million contract extension through 2012. The deal contains $15 million guaranteed, including a $7.5 million signing bonus and option bonuses of $6 million and $1.5 million in the second and third years. 2012: $7.2 million, 2013: Free Agent
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/baltimore-ravens/ed-reed/
July 19th, 2012 at 7:17 am
Troy Polamalu
9/10/2011: Signed a four-year, $36.5 million contract. The deal included a $10.55 million signing bonus.
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/pittsburgh-steelers/troy-polamalu/
July 19th, 2012 at 7:17 am
I’m not selling anyone on Goodson being anything more than a backup RB. Even still, I don’t see how that ties into not endorsing the signing of scrub washed up vet RB’s. Especially when we have decent competition already going into training camp.
But our TE situation is horrible by any measure. I can’t think of one team in the NFL with a weaker TE crew. I am in envy of 31 other teams when I think about the TE position.
July 19th, 2012 at 7:17 am
Rock,
Branch is getting paid and hyped up to become ONE of the better safeties in the league.
Ed Reed, IMO, is one of the best 50 players EVER at ANY position, and Troy P is at least one of the best 10 safeties to ever play.
Branch has a tough road to hoe to get in that elite group.
July 19th, 2012 at 7:18 am
Just read that Reed makes 7.20 mil this year and Polamalu makes 6.25 mil. Even at the franchise cost, Tyvon would have been making nearly the same, so why not free up the valuable cap space..
July 19th, 2012 at 7:19 am
@Hwnrdr
Branch will be paid $16.1 million over the first two years of the deal
Troy Polamalu = $6.25 million this year
Ed Reed = $7.2 million this year
July 19th, 2012 at 7:22 am
The TE cupboard is definitely bare, but that is not THAT THAT important of a position for us, and the league.
It is great if you have a Gronk or Graham out there as a weapon, just as it is great to have Seabass and Shane as your kickers.
But not a necessity.
July 19th, 2012 at 7:22 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 7:19 am
@Hwnrdr
Branch will be paid $16.1 million over the first two years of the deal
Troy Polamalu = $6.25 million this year
Ed Reed = $7.2 million this year
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He didn’t get the signing bonus those guys did, but is getting more on the annual salary end of it..sounds fair to me for his, what should be, prime years.
July 19th, 2012 at 7:23 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 7:19 am
@Hwnrdr
Branch will be paid $16.1 million over the first two years of the deal
Troy Polamalu = $6.25 million this year
Ed Reed = $7.2 million this year
Thanks! I didn’t know that Reed and Polomalu only got paid that much!
July 19th, 2012 at 7:24 am
raidertbone Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 7:16 am
If Reggie believes that much in TB33, then I believe as well!
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Endorsed! Big Reg got the job for a reason.
July 19th, 2012 at 7:24 am
So some Penn State students are out protecting the JoePa statue, as I predicted.
I honestly wouldn’t be suprised if there is some type of mini, suburban white kids riot, and one person dies.
Hope not, but those odds are just barely under 50/50 right now.
July 19th, 2012 at 7:25 am
I seriously think Darren should get limited reps in practice and pre-season. Not worth losing him, we already know he can step right in and dominate when the season starts.
Games though…He’s such an asset, in the run game, screens, slot and blocking. Hard to sit him game time, he does his job so well.
July 19th, 2012 at 7:25 am
Jul 30 2010
Eric Berry
Signed a 5 year $60 million contract with Kansas City (KC) with $34 million gtd.
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/kansas-city-chiefs/eric-berry/
July 19th, 2012 at 7:25 am
Speaking of TE, you know we paid Kevin Boss more than Jimmy Graham and Rob Gronkowski COMBINED last year??
Awesome!!!
RIP Mr. Al, but I don’t think I could have taken too many more years of those type of FA moves.
July 19th, 2012 at 7:27 am
If the Nationals can sit out Strasberg the end of this year, still not buying it but they say they are, down the stretch of a possible WS run to stick to their innnings count on him, than sitting Darren on games on turf seems feasible to me.
July 19th, 2012 at 7:28 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 7:25 am
Speaking of TE, you know we paid Kevin Boss more than Jimmy Graham and Rob Gronkowski COMBINED last year??
Awesome!!!
RIP Mr. Al, but I don’t think I could have taken too many more years of those type of FA moves.
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Yeah man no kidding…and then not to even throw the ball his way, WTF?lol
July 19th, 2012 at 7:30 am
Boss certainly was underutilized, and we could have gotten more bang from our buck there, but Al paid him like he was a top 5 NFL TE, and he might have struggled to be a top 5 AFC WEST TE, lol.
July 19th, 2012 at 7:30 am
Deja vu Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 7:25 am
I seriously think Darren should get limited reps in practice and pre-season. Not worth losing him, we already know he can step right in and dominate when the season starts.
Games though…He’s such an asset, in the run game, screens, slot and blocking. Hard to sit him game time, he does his job so well.
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Agreed, if there’s any player we have that shouldn’t need the pre-season reps, I’d think it would be DMAC. I’d be more focused on evaluating the backups imo.
July 19th, 2012 at 7:32 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 7:30 am
Boss certainly was underutilized, and we could have gotten more bang from our buck there, but Al paid him like he was a top 5 NFL TE, and he might have struggled to be a top 5 AFC WEST TE, lol.
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Yeah I’ll admit I was pissed to see him rarely utilized after having high hopes for the guy when we brought him over.
July 19th, 2012 at 7:32 am
I seriously think Darren should get limited reps in practice and pre-season. Not worth losing him, we already know he can step right in and dominate when the season starts.
Games though…He’s such an asset, in the run game, screens, slot and blocking. Hard to sit him game time, he does his job so well.
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@Deja vu
I would keep DMAC on the bench until November!
that way the offense could be the way you guys like it. Air Coryell style, like last year. With Palmer tossing bombs and throwing it up for grabs. We’ll find out soon if Criner & Streater can compete with the bigs, especially if Moore & Murphy can’t get over their strained vags by the bye week.
July 19th, 2012 at 7:33 am
Ed Reed is a free agent next year and will be 35 yo next season. Who knows what his next FA deal will be.
Comparing Reed, Polamalu doesn’t seem to jive with Branch’s deal. Branch is more like Berry and entering his prime. Berry is paid $12M/year.
July 19th, 2012 at 7:36 am
TE position:
It’s sad that after moving into the position of 3rd all-time receiving TE for the Raiders, Zach was sent to the great northwestern tundra, where he got only 25 receptions for 233 yards and 0 TDs. Boss was NOT, and we’re hoping that Ausberry really has a breakout year. Ah, what COULD have been …
July 19th, 2012 at 7:36 am
I’m glad Boss is gone. He was always one hit from retirement. He gave his best years and potential to the Giants. I think this will be his final year in the league playing with KC backing up Moeaki. The TE’s tend to fall off a cliff when the production starts to dip. That’s what makes guys like Gonzales and Gates so impressive. Those are the anomalies.
July 19th, 2012 at 7:38 am
Al Davis proved to be right about Zach Miller. He let him walk because he wasn’t worth $17 million gtd that Seattle paid him. He gets beat up a lot for all the stupid deals, but lets give him some credit for the deals he never made.
July 19th, 2012 at 7:39 am
#228
I really think that Graham is going to prove to be one of the exceptions as well. Gronk is a fine physical specimen, but he may end up being a flash in the pan.
July 19th, 2012 at 7:42 am
Orlando should just go for it and trade for Bynum. Bynum is money hungry, and there is no way in hell he is going to leave $20 million on the table to sign as a free agent somewhere else….especially considering his knee injury history.
Like I have said before, if Bynum is the main focus of an offense he will score 25+ ppg. His offensive game is so much more refined than is Dwight Howard’s.
The Lakers need to make the deal happen by accepting back Turkey’s bad contract in exchange for Metta’s not so bad contract.
July 19th, 2012 at 7:46 am
C’mon Magic – pull the trigger! I would LOVE to see KB and Dwight team up!
July 19th, 2012 at 7:47 am
RR,
Keep DMAC out until November? LOL I’m all for utilizing him during games. With his injury history and importance of his presence game time, i just don’t think it would be wise to use him a lot pre-season.
As far as the air it out game, i would rather have a balanced attack. Good mix of run and pass, to open up play action and the long ball. To heave it deep every other play requires some great route runners and solid protection.
If we have a revolving door for the WR’s again with injuries, it will be tough to build that chemistry and timing.
RT is my main concern as far as the protection goes.
July 19th, 2012 at 7:51 am
@Dakota
Bynum & Artest in exchange for Howard & Turkoglu!!
what else is L.A. giving Orlando?
July 19th, 2012 at 7:52 am
I say give DMac a taste of action with the first team in the opening preseason game; maybe the first two series, then shut him down for awhile.
July 19th, 2012 at 7:53 am
RT is my main concern as far as the protection goes
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Deja,
JFB reports Barnes > Veldheer last year !!
July 19th, 2012 at 7:54 am
Keep DMAC out until November? LOL I’m all for utilizing him during games.
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Me too, but if he’s going to get hurt after 8 or 10 games?
Rather save him for the last 6 reg season games & playoffs
July 19th, 2012 at 7:59 am
Don’t want no babying of DMAC. That was how Lady Tomlinson was treated back in the day. Steel strengthens steel. His injuries were flukes, and I think that attempting to avoid contact is going to cause a freak injury anyway.
DMAC needs to be used and abused for 350 touches this year and the increased workload will only make him stronger. Stop treating him like he’s made of china.
July 19th, 2012 at 8:03 am
Don’t want no babying of DMAC.
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@G123
even if it means an opportunity for Mike Goodson, aka Barry Sanders 2.0. ???
July 19th, 2012 at 8:03 am
RR,
Veldheer gets his fair share of refs attn, but what burns me up is the timing of Barnes meltdowns. Seems to be at critical times or 2 false starts in a row in the oppenents territory to force us to punt.
Still no excuse and both have room to grow, but Veldheer is still young and teachable. Barnes, i’m not convinced.
July 19th, 2012 at 8:04 am
made in china, or made of china ??
lol
July 19th, 2012 at 8:05 am
Darren McFadden is going to play in all 16 regular season games this year.
July 19th, 2012 at 8:07 am
I thought Barnes was just supposed to be a 1-year rental ?? a “cable guy” ??
then he survived Jackson/Saunders/Wylie
and now Allen/Knapp/Pollack
is it due to the drafting of bums like Campbell & Barksdale, perhaps?
July 19th, 2012 at 8:08 am
Me too, but if he’s going to get hurt after 8 or 10 games?
Rather save him for the last 6 reg season games & playoffs
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RR,
It would be huge to have Dmac healthy for the final lap. We shall see my friend, here’s to hoping his feet and hammie hold up!
July 19th, 2012 at 8:09 am
Darren McFadden is going to play in all 16 regular season games this year.
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@Thec
did Goodell officially declare the NFL being converted to 2-hand touch ??
NFLPA passed it, called it a safety measure
July 19th, 2012 at 8:10 am
So Barksdale is a bum now? I’m not going overboard to say he’s not. But we don’t really know enough now do we?
I’m not ready to throw the towel in on a mid round draft pick from last year.
July 19th, 2012 at 8:11 am
Y’all eeb sleeping on Barnes for a minute.
Dude was a starting LEFT tackle for a decent team for years.
Making the switch to right tackle is no big deal.
False starts were his only issue, and he was NOT penalized as much as our beloved LT.
July 19th, 2012 at 8:13 am
Mike Goodson is not Barry Sanders. But I believe that fully healthy, if given a chance, he can be a spot starter if DMAC misses a game or two. If Knapp can manufacture a 1000 yard season out of Justin Fargas, I believe he can do the same for Mike Goodson.
July 19th, 2012 at 8:14 am
I thought Barnes was just supposed to be a 1-year rental ?? a “cable guy” ??
then he survived Jackson/Saunders/Wylie
and now Allen/Knapp/Pollack
is it due to the drafting of bums like Campbell & Barksdale, perhaps?
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I have no idea. I get sick to my stomach just thinking about his meltdowns. I hope Barks steps his game up this year, i really do.
July 19th, 2012 at 8:15 am
I’m not ready to throw the towel in on a mid round draft pick from last year.
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@G123
just Pryor ??
July 19th, 2012 at 8:16 am
Is Barksdale a ZBS fit?
July 19th, 2012 at 8:17 am
If Knapp can manufacture a 1000 yard season out of Justin Fargas, I believe he can do the same for Mike Goodson.
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I like this, G123
Goodson isn’t our replacement for twinkle toes Mike Bush, he’s our replacement for Crash Test Dummy !!
July 19th, 2012 at 8:17 am
Is Barksdale a ZBS fit?
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@Jhill
well, he’s no BEAST Campbell !!
July 19th, 2012 at 8:17 am
Reece and Schmidtt will be our insurance plan for those short yardage situations imo.
July 19th, 2012 at 8:18 am
seriously, does Bergs have any shot at all to unseat Savage at LG ??
I don’t think so.
July 19th, 2012 at 8:20 am
@Tx
if Owen Schmitt doesn’t perform, Raider fans are going to leave out the “M” in his name !!
print that twice
July 19th, 2012 at 8:22 am
just Pryor ??
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No, I haven’t thrown the towel on Pryor…..YET
He’s the definition of a project though. Not a whole lot different than that basketball free agent we signed and then cut when he didn’t work out. And converting basketball players to TE’s is easy work.
Converting Pryor into an NFL quality thrower is going to be quite a learning curve. I only hope that at some point if he fails to progress, they consider switching positions to make something of that 3rd round pick. I don’t see him as the eventual starting QB, but he can be used somewhere with his physical talent.
July 19th, 2012 at 8:22 am
Savage being switched to LG is the biggest issue for me as we start this season.
Not good enough to keep his RG spot but good enough to replace Wiz at LG?
Bergstrom certainly has a shot to start.
July 19th, 2012 at 8:23 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 8:18 am
seriously, does Bergs have any shot at all to unseat Savage at LG ??
I don’t think so.
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Yes, of course he does. I think it will be a battle in training camp. Savage run blocks well, but is a matador in pass pro. If Bergstrom can be avg at pass pro, he’s got a shot in training camp, and certainly by the 1/4 mark of the reg season. Why are you so down on Bergstrom?
July 19th, 2012 at 8:24 am
Sad, sad night.
Makes for a sad day..
And its raining..
July 19th, 2012 at 8:24 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 8:20 am
@Tx
if Owen Schmitt doesn’t perform, Raider fans are going to leave out the “M” in his name !!
print that twice
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LOL Yeah man he’s good for depth imo, but Reece is a true X factor for us and teams should be worried.
July 19th, 2012 at 8:26 am
Old Coop will certainly put up a fight for his job, but he knows the writing is on the wall. If he gets dinged or lets up even a little, he knows that Tony Bergstrom is going to replace him. It’s good to have that competition, but this is Coop’s swan song season. I predict he won’t finish it as a starter.
July 19th, 2012 at 8:26 am
J Hill Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 8:22 am
Savage being switched to LG is the biggest issue for me as we start this season.
Not good enough to keep his RG spot but good enough to replace Wiz at LG?
Bergstrom certainly has a shot to start.
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I trust that Reg saw something beastly in Bergs, and he knows dude is a student of the game.
July 19th, 2012 at 8:28 am
converting basketball players to TE’s is easy work.
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Really, G123?
you cant just manufacture another Antonio Gates or Tony Gonzales in a lab someplace bro. Hardy wasn’t the player we thought he was, it happens.
but b-ballers = good TE’s ??
nah, not dime a dozen man.
July 19th, 2012 at 8:28 am
and Shmitt is our replacement of Jon Ritchie
July 19th, 2012 at 8:29 am
Sad, sad night.
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@DAV
why??
you dont want Howard going to L.A. ?
July 19th, 2012 at 8:29 am
Anyway, I really want to kick the tires on Jim Leonhard..
July 19th, 2012 at 8:30 am
Ravens are optimistic about a Flacco deal soon. I’ll take the heat if wrong, but Romo, Flacco or Sanchez will never wear a superbowl ring.. of their own. Print that!lol
July 19th, 2012 at 8:32 am
Bergstrom/Wiz/Veldheer/Briesel/Barksdale/Savage (hopefully) – good solid corps (I hope!)
July 19th, 2012 at 8:33 am
Why are you so down on Bergstrom?
Bergstrom certainly has a shot to start.
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JWiggle & GMoney,
Bergs is a project player. We’re trying to make him our swing guard to backup both Mike & Cooper. you have only have so many OL active on gameday.
Savage will probably win the LG spot. he’s never shied away from competition. Sort of a scrappy player, like Gradkowski & Giordano … which is probably why he’s a favorite of blog gm JFB
July 19th, 2012 at 8:34 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 8:29 am
Anyway, I really want to kick the tires on Jim Leonhard..
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The Jets think Landry or Bell can fill his shoes..Landry, please.lol
July 19th, 2012 at 8:34 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 8:29 am
Sad, sad night.
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@DAV
why??
you dont want Howard going to L.A. ?
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Not at all.
July 19th, 2012 at 8:35 am
The Jets will not be re-signing free agent S Jim Leonhard before training camp.
Leonhard, coming off a right patella tendon tear, recently declared himself healthy enough to work out for teams. League sources tell Jets beat writer Rich Cimini that Leonhard won’t be resurfacing with New York, though. The 29-year-old Leonhard could make sense for a team like the Colts or Cowboys. He knows the basic terminology of both of those defenses.
Jul 18 – 8:28 PM
Source: ESPN New York
July 19th, 2012 at 8:37 am
Who will be the next player to get suspended for being an obvious roid-head? I called Merriman and Cushing before it happened, I’ll say maybe Landry gets popped for the juice this year.
July 19th, 2012 at 8:37 am
Im late on the Savage thing I guess..
Is that Carlisle?
July 19th, 2012 at 8:37 am
How is Bergstrom a project?
He was drafted right where a LG should have been drafted
July 19th, 2012 at 8:38 am
The 29-year-old Leonhard could make sense for a team like the Colts or Cowboys. He knows the basic terminology of both of those defenses.
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Greg Manusky (who served with Jason Tarver in SF) is Indy’s DC. Rob Ryan (obviously!) is our old DC.
could Jim Leonhard be a fit here too, then?
July 19th, 2012 at 8:38 am
Savage will probably win the LG spot. he’s never shied away from competition. Sort of a scrappy player, like Gradkowski & Giordano … which is probably why he’s a favorite of blog gm JFB
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http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/07/13/three-years-of-pass-blocking-efficiency-guards/
Have you seen this article?
July 19th, 2012 at 8:38 am
Leonhard signing makes McCann more expendable.
Which means a regular defender makes the team.
Leonhard is a solid punt returner..
July 19th, 2012 at 8:39 am
J Hill Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 8:37 am
How is Bergstrom a project?
He was drafted right where a LG should have been drafted
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Wasn’t Bergs a tackle in college? That would mean he’s doing a slight transition by moving to LG right..
July 19th, 2012 at 8:40 am
How is Bergstrom a project?
He was drafted right where a LG should have been drafted
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@Jhill
he played RT at Utah
first time he EVER played guard was at the 2012 Senior Bowl !!
July 19th, 2012 at 8:40 am
Oakland Raiders
Position: Cornerback
The Players: Ron Bartell, Shawntae Spencer, DeMarcus Van Dyke, Chimdi Chekwa amongst others.
The Battle: In the past eighteen months, the Oakland Raiders have completely overhauled their cornerback stable. Since they had to bow out of the race for Nnamdi Asomugha due to the finances, they have set about a major turnover; getting rid of everybody else that was in the group and bringing in a host of young players and a few ageing veterans on the cheap in this year’s free agency. They let go of Stanford Routt to address the crazy contract situation the new regime inherited, and they now have to cobble together a set of corners from the group they have.
Ron Bartell is a quality corner at his best, but he is coming off a serious neck injury and, at 30 years old, with a season away from the game, it’s a big ask to expect him to step right in and perform. Shawntae Spencer is the other player of the group with experience to note, but he tumbled down the 49ers’ depth chart last season and saw just 87 snaps over the year. 2010 was the last year he saw significant action and he allowed 70.1% of the throws into his coverage to be complete, which is far from good.
After that duo, Oakland is hoping someone can step up from the young players and demand playing time. Van Dyke and Chekwa both saw time last season as rookies but neither stood out in a positive way, though Van Dyke certainly flashed some impressive coverage ability. There is talk that Chekwa is better suited for a safety role, but the Raiders have those positions well covered so he will likely be given a chance to earn a spot at corner.
The Verdict: If Bartell can show he is healthy, then even given the time he has missed he should be the class of the group and have one of the starting spots nailed down. The opposite side is not so clear, with the Raiders hoping Van Dyke is the player who can win the job. If he has a strong camp, he could do that and overtake Spencer for the other starting spot.
http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/07/19/training-camp-battles-afc-west/
July 19th, 2012 at 8:41 am
I believe Hardy was released as a result of injury. As much as Reece is a x factor in the pass game he is out of position player, and a liability in pass protection and run blocking. I would much rather See Schmidt in the backfield and Reece lined up where he belongs. On the outside. Pass catching TE.
July 19th, 2012 at 8:41 am
Leonhard is a solid punt returner..
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so is Johnnie Lee!!
and right now we have at least 3 WR’s injured.
July 19th, 2012 at 8:42 am
http://www.csnbayarea.com/football-oakland-raiders/raiders-talk/Super-Bowl-winning-coach-Flores-sounds-o?blockID=741000&feedID=7638
July 19th, 2012 at 8:43 am
Yeah, Tx …
I guess you could say that.
But don’t ZBS coaches like former OTs as their OGs?
July 19th, 2012 at 8:43 am
more evidence that PFF is trash, G123
Bartell & Spencer aren’t going to be the same players they were for STL & SF. DVD & Chekwa aren’t rookies anymore either
July 19th, 2012 at 8:44 am
Now maybe “O” will finally cut Shane a break!!!
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
LOL Dave.
A punter with a $5.75 million cap hit?!
NEVER!!
July 19th, 2012 at 8:44 am
I hardly think a rookie OL moving from the college tackle spot to NFL guard qualifies as some kind of “project”. That’s pretty typical. I believe Veldheer started out that way moving from the inside out.
July 19th, 2012 at 8:45 am
don’t ZBS coaches like former OTs as their OGs?
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@Jhill
are you referring to Robert Gallery?
lol
July 19th, 2012 at 8:45 am
Good day nation.
Green Party Rules!
PMPP is the shiznet!
July 19th, 2012 at 8:46 am
raiderfankirk Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 8:41 am
I believe Hardy was released as a result of injury. As much as Reece is a x factor in the pass game he is out of position player, and a liability in pass protection and run blocking. I would much rather See Schmidt in the backfield and Reece lined up where he belongs. On the outside. Pass catching TE.
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Reece isnt as dangerous as a TE.
His blocking isnt as bad as its made out either.
July 19th, 2012 at 8:46 am
I believe Veldheer started out that way moving from the inside out.
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they tried Veldheer out at Center, lol
one of the dumbest things I’ve seen in a while
Satele must have been REALLY bad …
July 19th, 2012 at 8:46 am
Bartell & Spencer aren’t going to be the same players they were for STL & SF.
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RRS,
How do you know? How does anyone know at this point? And DVD and Chekwa are unkwowns as well. Is there any part of the defensive backfield that is a known? And before you answer, consider the defensive scheme change.
July 19th, 2012 at 8:47 am
J Hill Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 8:43 am
Yeah, Tx …
I guess you could say that.
But don’t ZBS coaches like former OTs as their OGs?
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Yeah, good to know he can play RT well in case Barnes can’t hold it down.
July 19th, 2012 at 8:47 am
PFF is far from trash, RRS.
Just because some of their articles dont defend an opinion of yours doesnt make them trash.
They do great research/work.
Come on bro.
July 19th, 2012 at 8:47 am
“I think he was a disappointment last year,” Flores said of McClain. “One play he’ll look like an All-Pro and then the other play he’ll look just like an average guy. And then the fiasco when he went home for an occasion, that didn’t go over too well. But he’s got to prove himself still, in my opinion. He hasn’t lived up to expectations so I think there’s still some speculation there.”
July 19th, 2012 at 8:47 am
@DAV
Mike Vrabel said it best.
Reece has the hands of a wide receiver, but he blocks like one too!
July 19th, 2012 at 8:48 am
You guys talking about our 1st pick, a 26 YO rookie OL who hasn’t practiced with the 1st unit?
Have fun.
lol
July 19th, 2012 at 8:48 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 8:46 am
I believe Veldheer started out that way moving from the inside out.
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they tried Veldheer out at Center, lol
one of the dumbest things I’ve seen in a while
Satele must have been REALLY bad …
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Wasnt Veldheer quoted saying that his time at Center is the main reason he is good at LT.. and praised Cable too..
July 19th, 2012 at 8:48 am
Gallery, Beast Campbell, Barnes
July 19th, 2012 at 8:49 am
Is there any part of the defensive backfield that is a known?
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@G123
Branch, Top 5 safety in the NFL
right fellas?
July 19th, 2012 at 8:49 am
Moving LT veldeer to C was one of many strange moves that let me know that hue wast ready to be a hc.
July 19th, 2012 at 8:49 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 8:47 am
@DAV
Mike Vrabel said it best.
Reece has the hands of a wide receiver, but he blocks like one too!
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His opinion.. he’s allowed that.
July 19th, 2012 at 8:50 am
Many players don’t return to the NFL after suffering a cracked vertebrae, like Bartell did. The key differences with his injury are that he didn’t leave the field on a cart, and the injury did NOT require surgery.
July 19th, 2012 at 8:50 am
I didn’t know you can call a 26 YO rookie OL a “Project”. When will he start? at 28/29? LOL
July 19th, 2012 at 8:51 am
I mean cable
July 19th, 2012 at 8:51 am
DAV that may be true, but I don’t think Schmidt was brought in to play special teams or be inactive on game days.
July 19th, 2012 at 8:51 am
Wasnt Veldheer quoted saying that his time at Center is the main reason he is good at LT.. and praised Cable too..
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what O-Lineman didn’t praise the Cable guy ??
Also, JFB speculates Veldheer is probably the most overrated player on the team no matter how “good” he thinks he is
July 19th, 2012 at 8:52 am
You guys talking about our 1st pick, a 26 YO rookie OL who hasn’t practiced with the 1st unit?
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Sure. Reggie’s first draft pick. If Reggie was excited about taking him as his first pick over some of the other known names at the end of round 3, I’m willing to give Reggie the benefit of the doubt. He is after all the mastermind of where the franchise is going. If you are excited about the new REGGIME, you have to also be excited that Reggie has a plan and that Bergstrom is a big part of it.
July 19th, 2012 at 8:52 am
Raider O Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 8:50 am
I didn’t know you can call a 26 YO rookie OL a “Project”. When will he start? at 28/29? LOL
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Bergs will start somewhere on the O-line, sometime this season imo.
July 19th, 2012 at 8:53 am
raiderfankirk Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 8:51 am
DAV that may be true, but I don’t think Schmidt was brought in to play special teams or be inactive on game days.
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Schmitt was brought in to give us roster options at RB.
Reece can play both, making a RB signing not a NEED.
July 19th, 2012 at 8:53 am
“I think he was a disappointment last year,” Flores said of McClain. “One play he’ll look like an All-Pro and then the other play he’ll look just like an average guy
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So at worst, he was average?
The guy played at least half the season HURT!
When did he heal up after playing through the injury in the Houston game?
Just kept taking shots and kept playing.
McClain and DVD are going to be significant contributors this season!
July 19th, 2012 at 8:53 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 8:51 am
Wasnt Veldheer quoted saying that his time at Center is the main reason he is good at LT.. and praised Cable too..
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Also, JFB speculates Veldheer is probably the most overrated player on the team no matter how “good” he thinks he is
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Extreme view on this blog??? no way….
July 19th, 2012 at 8:54 am
J Hill
Hope you’re right about 55 and DVD bro, for the Nation!
July 19th, 2012 at 8:55 am
Branch, Top 5 safety in the NFL
right fellas?
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Safety in general, probably not.
As a SS, for our new scheme, can’t think of 4 other guys I’d rather have.
If we were still running the old scheme, different conversation.
July 19th, 2012 at 8:57 am
Extreme view on this blog??? no way….
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@DAV
you certainly have to be included among the extremists!!
can I get an “AGENDA” comment?
July 19th, 2012 at 8:57 am
If you are excited about the new REGGIME, you have to also be excited that Reggie has a plan and that Bergstrom is a big part of it.
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Well said!
July 19th, 2012 at 8:59 am
serious question:
when is the NBA trade deadline??
how long does Orlando have to mull over trade offers, before he is officially stuck in FL for next season?
July 19th, 2012 at 9:00 am
Mid season next year, RRS.
July 19th, 2012 at 9:00 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 8:57 am
Extreme view on this blog??? no way….
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@DAV
you certainly have to be included among the extremists!!
can I get an “AGENDA” comment?
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Im far from extreme on anything..
July 19th, 2012 at 9:01 am
@RaiderRockstar:
Regardless of your feeling about branch you have to admit you liked this comment:“
I don’t really have any personal goals,” Branch said. “I just want to win. Whatever it takes to win, I’m all about winning. That’s the most important thing”
If all the members of the Raiders squad truly feel this way (truly being the key word), it raises my expactations.
July 19th, 2012 at 9:01 am
The nba trade deadine is midseason
July 19th, 2012 at 9:01 am
And you do push an AGENDA lol..
July 19th, 2012 at 9:01 am
I didn’t predict Bergs to flop. Just think he’s a project being a rookie mid-rounder. switching from starting RT, to backing up BOTH guard spots.
maybe Barks should play guard and Bergs should play tackle ??
July 19th, 2012 at 9:01 am
*feelings
July 19th, 2012 at 9:03 am
@HB
this is true. love Branch’s attitude & work ethic
July 19th, 2012 at 9:03 am
Reece had 17 carries and 27 receptions last year. 44 touches in a season does not warrant having him in the backfield. He ran a 4.4 coming out. He is a match up problem where ever he lines up.
July 19th, 2012 at 9:03 am
Howard says he’ll sign a max deal if he’s traded to la. Maybe things will start moving now..
July 19th, 2012 at 9:05 am
raiderfankirk Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 9:03 am
Reece had 17 carries and 27 receptions last year. 44 touches in a season does not warrant having him in the backfield. He ran a 4.4 coming out. He is a match up problem where ever he lines up.
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He isnt a match up nightmare as a TE where a DB is covering him.
He is as a FB where a LB is covering him.
July 19th, 2012 at 9:05 am
Mid season next year, RRS.
The nba trade deadine is midseason
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thanks gents!!
so like, March?
this Dwightmare could drag on for quite a while.
July 19th, 2012 at 9:06 am
Marks hair Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 9:03 am
Howard says he’ll sign a max deal if he’s traded to la. Maybe things will start moving now..
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Yea, none of that makes the Magic move any faster.
Still dependant on Cleveland & Houston putting together the best deal.
July 19th, 2012 at 9:06 am
He [Reece] isnt a match up nightmare as a TE where a DB is covering him.
He is as a FB where a LB is covering him.
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true!
Branch would take him completely out of the ballgame, right bros?
July 19th, 2012 at 9:06 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 9:05 am
Mid season next year, RRS.
The nba trade deadine is midseason
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thanks gents!!
so like, March?
this Dwightmare could drag on for quite a while.
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You wont see him in a Magic jersey again.
It’ll be done by start of training camp..
July 19th, 2012 at 9:06 am
330 exactly
July 19th, 2012 at 9:07 am
So at worst, he was average?
The guy played at least half the season HURT!
When did he heal up after playing through the injury in the Houston game?
Just kept taking shots and kept playing.
McClain and DVD are going to be significant contributors this season!
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Flores just pointed out the obvious.
I applauded mccheese for playing hurt last year he manned up the houston game.
Problem with mccheese is he came from a situation in college, where he was a 3-4 ilb. He was being asked to play mike in a 4-3.
mccheese DOES NOT have the insticts to play mike in a 4-3.
In order to get anything outta this guy you will need to tewak the scheme…Alot.
He has a new schme, new coaches, and hopefully a new out look. He has the first 3 games to prove himself, then better yet I will give him the first 4 games.
If no improvement, run the bum…
July 19th, 2012 at 9:07 am
why the heck would Bynum play for Cleveland, but not Orlando ??
July 19th, 2012 at 9:08 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 9:07 am
why the heck would Bynum play for Cleveland, but not Orlando ??
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Kyrie Irving.
Both of them from New Jersey.
Id rather play for Cleveland too, good young team.
July 19th, 2012 at 9:09 am
You wont see him in a Magic jersey again.
It’ll be done by start of training camp..
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I Dunno. I heard an interview yesterday with a hoops insider local to Orlando, and they think the offers are all pretty lowball right now, and they will sweeten the offers as it gets to the trade deadline. They feel that the bidding war will heat up in January. Almost guarantee he begins the year in a Magic uni.
July 19th, 2012 at 9:09 am
Guest,
It’s hard for me to get excited about a 3rd round 26 YO rookie OL who has not practiced with the 1st unit with Barnes at RT and CC who is 34 at LG for the 1st time in his career.
July 19th, 2012 at 9:10 am
You will like this story about Dennis Rodman meeting his father. I don’t know if my other postings went through as they all were awaiting moderation.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/former-nba-star-dennis-rodman-083359719–nba.html
July 19th, 2012 at 9:11 am
Go Cavs!!
Go Clippers!!
July 19th, 2012 at 9:12 am
guest123 Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 9:09 am
You wont see him in a Magic jersey again.
It’ll be done by start of training camp..
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I Dunno. I heard an interview yesterday with a hoops insider local to Orlando, and they think the offers are all pretty lowball right now, and they will sweeten the offers as it gets to the trade deadline. They feel that the bidding war will heat up in January. Almost guarantee he begins the year in a Magic uni.
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Not a chance.
The latest he gets traded is after Dec 15th when the contracts just signed can be traded.
He wont be in a Magic uniform again either way.
July 19th, 2012 at 9:12 am
Probably cannot leave the Phillipines due to support issues. 29 children by 16 mothers.
July 19th, 2012 at 9:12 am
It’s hard for me to get excited about a 3rd round 26 YO rookie OL who has not practiced with the 1st unit with Barnes at RT and CC who is 34 at LG for the 1st time in his career.
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O,
Thing is, don’t forget he’s a rookie. He’s in the classroom learning how to understand the NFL game. It’s not a position that most rooks just jump into. Give him some time. Shelf life for OL is short anyway, so the 26 yo thing doesn’t bother me. If we get his prime years, it will be a good pick. He’s a smart guy and I think he’ll compete quickly.
July 19th, 2012 at 9:12 am
If no improvement, run the bum…
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Bum???
Ok, so if you take Flores’ take that HALF the time 55 is playing at an all pro level, and the other half he is average, how does that translate to bum?
Who is the player that is going to replace him that will play at an all pro level MORE than half the time?
July 19th, 2012 at 9:13 am
Bynum has said he would go to Cleveland.
July 19th, 2012 at 9:15 am
exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 9:13 am
Bynum has said he would go to Cleveland.
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YOU HEARD IT HEAR FIRST FOLKS!!!
LOL.. JK man.. We know this already
July 19th, 2012 at 9:16 am
Id rather play for Cleveland too, good young team.
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@DAV
but after trading Howard for Bynum & picks, wont Orlando be considered a “good young team” as well?
July 19th, 2012 at 9:17 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 9:16 am
Id rather play for Cleveland too, good young team.
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@DAV
but after trading Howard for Bynum & picks, wont Orlando be considered a “good young team” as well?
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What picks?
July 19th, 2012 at 9:18 am
Bynum doesnt care about the city. He will sign a max deal, period…
July 19th, 2012 at 9:19 am
Branch would take him completely out of the ballgame, right bros?
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No sarcasm there lol
July 19th, 2012 at 9:20 am
@Rockstar:
Do we need to start a rue the day for Branch?
July 19th, 2012 at 9:20 am
@DAV
Magic have like 5 players at or above 30 years old.
Lakers have 6
Heat have 8
July 19th, 2012 at 9:21 am
Hill Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 9:12 am
If no improvement, run the bum…
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Bum???
Ok, so if you take Flores’ take that HALF the time 55 is playing at an all pro level, and the other half he is average, how does that translate to bum?
Who is the player that is going to replace him that will play at an all pro level MORE than half the time?
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I am sure that our GM, and HC have a plan to address the who, what, why, where, when and how question you pose.
I am not sure we have a replacement for him on the roster as of yet.
I will say this, a mlb has to play with insticts, and read and disect quickly, and have a nose for the ball be in attack mode ALL the time. mccheese has shown me non of that.
allthough unproven MBURRIS, has far more insticts and a better aatck mentality than mccheese…
You must have forgotten this is a “blog” opinions vary, and are like aholes…
My opinion is that if he does not show and prove he is a bum, and show him the door….
July 19th, 2012 at 9:21 am
Guest,
IMHO, our 1st pick/ 26 YO rooke OL who played OT in college should be able to get a few snaps at G or RT with the 1st unit especially with guys like Barnes and CC playing.
July 19th, 2012 at 9:21 am
Orlando has waited so long, that nobodys left to bid against the Lakers.. If the lake magic deal doesnt happen they’ll have to wait till mid yr. And that cant be good for moral, or season tix sales.
July 19th, 2012 at 9:22 am
@Rockstar:
Do we need to start a rue the day for Branch?
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LOL @ HB
hey now,
I have very critical of Branch’s past, not his future!
July 19th, 2012 at 9:22 am
Magic should have just accepted the Nets offer…
July 19th, 2012 at 9:23 am
Marks hair Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 9:21 am
Orlando has waited so long, that nobodys left to bid against the Lakers.. If the lake magic deal doesnt happen they’ll have to wait till mid yr. And that cant be good for moral, or season tix sales.
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No way.
Its not about bidding against the Lakers.
Its about the Cavs & Rockets bidding against each other.
July 19th, 2012 at 9:23 am
@Rockstar:
Do we need to start a rue the day for Branch?
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Need to start an unrue the day for mccheese, the anti mlb.
July 19th, 2012 at 9:23 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 9:22 am
Magic should have just accepted the Nets offer…
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LOL!!
That is laughable.
July 19th, 2012 at 9:24 am
Dan Gilbert can pay Bynum a max contract. The NBA does not have the rules on casino ownership that the NFL has and he just opened one of the four in Ohio in Cleveland. Others, Toledo, Columbus and Cincy.
July 19th, 2012 at 9:24 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 9:20 am
@DAV
Magic have like 5 players at or above 30 years old.
Lakers have 6
Heat have 8
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OK..
???
July 19th, 2012 at 9:26 am
one thing about trading Dwight to the Lakers is, at least he’s out of the East.
trading him to the Nets wouldn’t have been a smart move
Houston & L.A. make much more sense.
would Dwight sign an extension with Golden State, Sacramento or New Orleans ??
July 19th, 2012 at 9:27 am
O
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Ohio!!!!
Damn you Mich!!
July 19th, 2012 at 9:28 am
Dwight Howard would sign an extension wherever he’s traded.
He’s not gonna turn down his bird rights and almost 30 million dollars. Just to start this media murder session again.
July 19th, 2012 at 9:28 am
360. The cavs & rockets used to include the nets & the hawks.. Now the lakers dont really have to eat turkalu anymore..
July 19th, 2012 at 9:28 am
Charlotte, Washington & Toronto have no interest in Howard ??
they are content on being bottom feeders?
July 19th, 2012 at 9:30 am
Marks hair Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 9:28 am
360. The cavs & rockets used to include the nets & the hawks.. Now the lakers dont really have to eat turkalu anymore..
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Turkoglu has never been part of any trade talks. They arent trying to move him.
July 19th, 2012 at 9:31 am
Dwight might just wait it out if traded to gs…. Lebron passed on his bird rights
July 19th, 2012 at 9:31 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 9:28 am
Charlotte, Washington & Toronto have no interest in Howard ??
they are content on being bottom feeders?
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Washington made their moves this off-season. Look like a playoff team too.
The Bobcats are in the same division as Orlando, not gonna happen..
Toronto has nothing to offer.
July 19th, 2012 at 9:32 am
IMHO, our 1st pick/ 26 YO rooke OL who played OT in college should be able to get a few snaps at G or RT with the 1st unit especially with guys like Barnes and CC playing.
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I think he will soon. Training camp battle will be a good one, and injuries will arise that will reset the depth chart. Bergstrom will get his opportunity. But he has to cash in on it when it comes to him.
July 19th, 2012 at 9:34 am
Marks hair Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 9:31 am
Dwight might just wait it out if traded to gs…. Lebron passed on his bird rights
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True, but LeBron got a lot of language written into his contract. He can opt out at any time basically.
Kind of unique situation also with what they did in Miami.
Started the bandwagon revolution.
July 19th, 2012 at 9:35 am
On the Raiders’ biggest weakness on defense: “I think most of it came from the linebacker position.
July 19th, 2012 at 9:36 am
Ive heard alot of turk pushing. But thats not the point. Their losing bidders. Its bad for any auction..
July 19th, 2012 at 9:37 am
IMHO, our 1st pick/ 26 YO rooke OL who played OT in college should be able to get a few snaps at G or RT with the 1st unit especially with guys like Barnes and CC playing.
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OTA snaps aren’t very telling. Pryor was connecting with DHB, Lice with Ford, and Palmer to Criner…..They mix and match just for repititions sake. Training camp will be more of a tell tale sign of things to come. Many questions will be answered over the next several weeks.
July 19th, 2012 at 9:38 am
Reece vs SS I would take that match up against almost every team in the league. His size is a match up problem against almost all DB’S and speed vs most lbs. DB or lb pick your poison. 27 catches as FB dbl as TE with good blocking FB. Ask Carson how he feels about it?
July 19th, 2012 at 9:38 am
377. agreed
July 19th, 2012 at 9:38 am
Here you go Marks Hair.
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/19/the-inbounds-hennigans-rainbow/
Like I said, The Magic & Hennigan have the leverage.
July 19th, 2012 at 9:39 am
Not to mention the rockets just spent a bunch on lin.
July 19th, 2012 at 9:41 am
Marks hair Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 9:39 am
Not to mention the rockets just spent a bunch on lin.
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Not til year 3.
They’ll sell more than that in jerseys in China alone.
Oh ya, and Lin will be the starting PG on the All-Star team too.
July 19th, 2012 at 9:41 am
Great points Guest and Theghostronin.
July 19th, 2012 at 9:41 am
forgive my lack of knowledge on this subject but what is “bird rights”?
July 19th, 2012 at 9:42 am
Saints rumored to be trading for Dwight Freeney…
July 19th, 2012 at 9:42 am
Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 9:41 am
forgive my lack of knowledge on this subject but what is “bird rights”?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bird_rights#Larry_Bird_exception
July 19th, 2012 at 9:43 am
I also think we’ll see more of Schmidt in the backfield than Reece. Schmitty LIVES to crush people and could be a fabulous partner for DMAC. We haven’t had a true Hammer-Head lead blocker for awhile. Got a feeling Reece will be used more of a gadget guy, lining up all over the field, as well as the backfield. He really is a matchup nightmare and has fantastic hands. Curious how this one will play out.
July 19th, 2012 at 9:44 am
Don’t know if you guys heard….Howard was in L.A. (2 days ago) at the Dodgers game wearing a Lakers hat, taking pictures with fans.
I’m sure you could google some images…
July 19th, 2012 at 9:45 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 9:42 am
Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 9:41 am
forgive my lack of knowledge on this subject but what is “bird rights”?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bird_rights#Larry_Bird_exception
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thanx, I was pretty sure it had something to with Larry, just wasn’t sure what.
July 19th, 2012 at 9:45 am
234.RaiderRockstar Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 7:51 am
@Dakota
Bynum & Artest in exchange for Howard & Turkoglu!!
what else is L.A. giving Orlando?
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They are giving them the second best center in the NBA and cap relief. Getting the second best center in the NBA is more than any late-round draft pick is going to provide the Magic in some trade with the Nets or Rockets. Maybe the pick from Toronto that the Rockets have might turn into a lottery pick, but even then, the chances of selecting a player with that pick that is better than Bynum are slim to none….the Magic’s owner is 100 years old and doesn’t have time to watch his team suck for the next five years waiting for picks to blossom.
July 19th, 2012 at 9:46 am
r8eray Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 9:44 am
Don’t know if you guys heard….Howard was in L.A. (2 days ago) at the Dodgers game wearing a Lakers hat, taking pictures with fans.
I’m sure you could google some images…
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Dodger hat.
And he took it off once he was put on the big board.
July 19th, 2012 at 9:46 am
388 it was a dodgers hat
July 19th, 2012 at 9:47 am
Dakota Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 9:45 am
234.RaiderRockstar Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 7:51 am
@Dakota
Bynum & Artest in exchange for Howard & Turkoglu!!
what else is L.A. giving Orlando?
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They are giving them the second best center in the NBA and cap relief. Getting the second best center in the NBA is more than any late-round draft pick is going to provide the Magic in some trade with the Nets or Rockets. Maybe the pick from Toronto that the Rockets have might turn into a lottery pick, but even then, the chances of selecting a player with that pick that is better than Bynum are slim to none….the Magic’s owner is 100 years old and doesn’t have time to watch his team suck for the next five years waiting for picks to blossom.
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We’re not interested in Bynum.
Hennigan wants young future all-stars, picks & cap relief..
July 19th, 2012 at 9:49 am
Even your artical mentiond turk.lol
July 19th, 2012 at 9:50 am
Marks hair Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 9:49 am
Even your artical mentiond turk.lol
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Ya lol..
But realistically he’s the last of the bad contracts you want to get rid of.
JRich, Duhon first.
Q Rich & Turk next..
July 19th, 2012 at 9:51 am
I spell so bad when I smoke herb…
July 19th, 2012 at 9:52 am
For those of you who want to add shank:
Patriots to host Visanthe Shiancoe today per Pft
July 19th, 2012 at 9:52 am
Marks hair Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 9:51 am
I spell so bad when I smoke herb
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I spell bad either way lol
July 19th, 2012 at 9:52 am
Marks hair Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 9:51 am
I spell so bad when I smoke herb…
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its all good.. i read bad when i smoke it !!
July 19th, 2012 at 9:53 am
Why can’t it be the Raiders hosting Shaincoe? What do the Patriots need a TE for anyway?
They have too many, and we don’t have a one.
July 19th, 2012 at 9:53 am
Day off! Woo hoo!
July 19th, 2012 at 9:56 am
Are these the lazy days of summer?
July 19th, 2012 at 9:56 am
395. Isnt turk paid the most? With one yr less than the other guys?
July 19th, 2012 at 9:57 am
What do the Patriots need a TE for anyway?
They have too many
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no kidding, G123
Rob Gronkowski & Aaron Hernandez in the house.
plus they just signed Daniel Fells in March & claimed Jake Ballard in June !!
July 19th, 2012 at 9:58 am
393.DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 9:47 am
Dakota Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 9:45 am
234.RaiderRockstar Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 7:51 am
@Dakota
Bynum & Artest in exchange for Howard & Turkoglu!!
what else is L.A. giving Orlando?
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They are giving them the second best center in the NBA and cap relief. Getting the second best center in the NBA is more than any late-round draft pick is going to provide the Magic in some trade with the Nets or Rockets. Maybe the pick from Toronto that the Rockets have might turn into a lottery pick, but even then, the chances of selecting a player with that pick that is better than Bynum are slim to none….the Magic’s owner is 100 years old and doesn’t have time to watch his team suck for the next five years waiting for picks to blossom.
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We’re not interested in Bynum.
Hennigan wants young future all-stars, picks & cap relief..
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Young future all-stars? You mean like 24 year old Andrew Bynum?
Hennigan can hope in one hand and schyt in the other and see which one fills up first. There is only one team that has a young all star player that they are offering and that is LA.
Your GM understands that late first round picks are worthless in the NBA…and that is what you will get if you trade Howard to any team.
July 19th, 2012 at 9:59 am
Marks hair Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 9:56 am
395. Isnt turk paid the most? With one yr less than the other guys?
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JRich, Big Baby just signed 4 year deals.
Duhon & Q Rich have 2 years left.
Turk has 2 years, but only 1 guaranteed..
July 19th, 2012 at 9:59 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 9:57 am
What do the Patriots need a TE for anyway?
They have too many
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no kidding, G123
Rob Gronkowski & Aaron Hernandez in the house.
plus they just signed Daniel Fells in March & claimed Jake Ballard in June !!
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I think they signed Bo Scaife as well, Probaly released already though.
July 19th, 2012 at 10:00 am
@DAV
if the Magic are truly looking to get younger, why aren’t they shopping more than just Dwight Howard for cap relief ??
Duhon, Chris
Nelson, Jameer
Richardson, Jason
Richardson, Quentin
Türkoğlu, Hedo
July 19th, 2012 at 10:01 am
Dakota Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 9:58 am
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Young future all-stars? You mean like 24 year old Andrew Bynum?
Hennigan can hope in one hand and schyt in the other and see which one fills up first. There is only one team that has a young all star player that they are offering and that is LA.
Your GM understands that late first round picks are worthless in the NBA…and that is what you will get if you trade Howard to any team.
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LOL.. What does it matter if we want Bynum or not?
Your getting Howard bro.
Young future star/Picks/Cap relief is better than just Bynum.
July 19th, 2012 at 10:01 am
http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2012/7/17/3165440/oakland-raiders-interested-but-cedric-benson-hedges
He (Benson) said in the interview that he was unwilling to sign a one year deal at veteran minimum which for him would be $810,000. He feels like his production warrants more money and perhaps more commitment.
July 19th, 2012 at 10:02 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 10:00 am
@DAV
if the Magic are truly looking to get younger, why aren’t they shopping more than just Dwight Howard for cap relief ??
Duhon, Chris
Nelson, Jameer
Richardson, Jason
Richardson, Quentin
Türkoğlu, Hedo
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Where have you been??
All those players but Nelson & Turk are on their way out in trade scenarios that have been thrown out there.
July 19th, 2012 at 10:02 am
If lakers get howard.. Its game over.. Lakers would win back to back championships.. Kobe would get 7 rings..
July 19th, 2012 at 10:02 am
We might get back zack miller. He could be cut, the hawks have a few guys.
July 19th, 2012 at 10:02 am
“I think he was a disappointment last year,” Flores said of McClain. “One play he’ll look like an All-Pro and then the other play he’ll look just like an average guy
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McLame looked like an All-Pro one play ?
Which one ?
The Jog behind FJAX in Buff or the Whiff on Stafford ?
Yeah, those were All-Pro caliber plays, alright.
The Jog was an epic display of non-hustle and absolutely disgraceful for anyone calling himself a professional or a Raider. Inexcusable. Disgusting.
The Whiff was an epic display of incompetence and failure to make a play at the most crucial moment, when even an ‘average’ LB delivers. The Whiff, more than any other play, doomed the Raider season and exemplifies not being able to get off the field or stop a drive. Incompetent. Pathetic.
The Funeral Fiasco is an indictment of McLame’s commitment and mindset. Enough said.
As far as playing hurt; that comes with the territory. You’re going to get hurt playing LB in the NFL. If McLame’s ankle was severely injured, credit to him for playing through it. That said, I’m not buying that his ankle severely limited his play. His off season stem cell treatments were for his sore knees which is indicative of a chronic condition – so McLame is going to have to suck it up if he wants to earn his millions.
Or he could fade into the sunset and play thug in Bama.
By the way, you might suspect there’s a problem when a ‘homer’ like Flores offers even a mild criticism of McLame.
‘Look like an All-Pro on one play’, my butt.
Have to fear that McLame will wind up being another ‘addition by subtraction’ bust.
July 19th, 2012 at 10:02 am
guest123 Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 10:01 am
http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2012/7/17/3165440/oakland-raiders-interested-but-cedric-benson-hedges
He (Benson) said in the interview that he was unwilling to sign a one year deal at veteran minimum which for him would be $810,000. He feels like his production warrants more money and perhaps more commitment.
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Memo to Cedric:
Take what you can get fool!
July 19th, 2012 at 10:02 am
Patrick Ewing being considered for Magic HC ??
Patrick Ewing, Jr. = welcome to Orlando!
July 19th, 2012 at 10:03 am
That’s why dealing with the Rockets straight up or in a 3 way trade with the Lakers is the best scenario.
July 19th, 2012 at 10:04 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 10:02 am
Patrick Ewing being considered for Magic HC ??
Patrick Ewing, Jr. = welcome to Orlando!
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No.
Jacque Vaughn, Lindsay Hunter & Michael Curry are the 3 right now..
July 19th, 2012 at 10:04 am
Where have you been??
All those players but Nelson & Turk are on their way out in trade scenarios that have been thrown out there.
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@DAV
most of them involving Dwight Howard. why?
is that the only way a team would accept them with their existing contracts? packaged with the big man?
July 19th, 2012 at 10:05 am
412. We would definately get good odds in vegas..
July 19th, 2012 at 10:06 am
Have to fear that McLame will wind up being another ‘addition by subtraction’ bust.
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I’ve never been one to label any player a “bust” after only two seasons, but I think he knows Reg won’t take his crap if that’s what he produces on the field this year..
July 19th, 2012 at 10:07 am
Speaking of vegas odds, anyone want to put down a small wager on the Raiders winning the Super Bowl this year? You get 66-1 odds.
July 19th, 2012 at 10:07 am
Rockets get: Andrew Bynum, Glen Davis, Chris Duhon, Josh McRoberts
Lakers get: Dwight Howard, Jason Richardson, Quentin Richardson
Magic get: Kevin Martin, Jeremy Lamb, Devin Ebanks, Chandler Parsons, Terrence Jones, Steve Blake TOR 1st rd Pick.
July 19th, 2012 at 10:08 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 10:04 am
Where have you been??
All those players but Nelson & Turk are on their way out in trade scenarios that have been thrown out there.
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@DAV
most of them involving Dwight Howard. why?
is that the only way a team would accept them with their existing contracts? packaged with the big man?
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Yea.
July 19th, 2012 at 10:09 am
Yea.
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cool, thanks for the info DAV
I like your trade scenario #423 btw
July 19th, 2012 at 10:09 am
If houston signs azkis will they have any space left for duhon or davis?
July 19th, 2012 at 10:12 am
Marks hair Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 10:09 am
If houston signs azkis will they have any space left for duhon or davis?
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Yea, remember Asik/Lin’s deals are backloaded..
July 19th, 2012 at 10:13 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 10:09 am
Yea.
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cool, thanks for the info DAV
I like your trade scenario #423 btw
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For sure bro, always like talking sports with you.
July 19th, 2012 at 10:13 am
423. Is ok except for ebanks and one of the richardsons
July 19th, 2012 at 10:15 am
guest123 Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 10:07 am
Speaking of vegas odds, anyone want to put down a small wager on the Raiders winning the Super Bowl this year? You get 66-1 odds.
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I’m gonna do it bro..won’t be betting much but will put something on those odds.lol
July 19th, 2012 at 10:15 am
423.DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 10:07 am
Rockets get: Andrew Bynum, Glen Davis, Chris Duhon, Josh McRoberts
Lakers get: Dwight Howard, Jason Richardson, Quentin Richardson
Magic get: Kevin Martin, Jeremy Lamb, Devin Ebanks, Chandler Parsons, Terrence Jones, Steve Blake TOR 1st rd Pick.
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Is that junk really better than getting a 24 year old center who will give you 25 ppg as the first option on offense?
I don’t care if Bynum goes to Orlando or Cleveland or Houston, but what I don’t understand is that if Houston is willing to trade a huge group of players and picks to Orlando for Howard straight up, why would any deal to get Bynum to Houston somehow result in a better deal for Orlando? Houston isn’t going to offer MORE for Bynum than they would for Howard.
What a mess. Once Bynum bends to the pressure he will agree to sign on with Orlando and that will be the basis of the deal. Just watch and see.
July 19th, 2012 at 10:15 am
Backloaded but guarenteed.. Like bynums max deal.. They might be paying the tax yr 2 & 3.
July 19th, 2012 at 10:16 am
Rock,
I never stated Jared was the “most overrated player on the team”. Overrated, a tad, but nowhere near as much as Seymour and Lamar Houston, in my eyes.
July 19th, 2012 at 10:17 am
My only pre-season Superbowl prediction in recent years was picking the Saints to win it all, after they destroyed us in the pre-season and looked in playoff form from the start. I’m better at picking players who will get caught on the juice.lol
July 19th, 2012 at 10:17 am
Marks hair Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 10:15 am
Backloaded but guarenteed.. Like bynums max deal.. They might be paying the tax yr 2 & 3.
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No.
The only contracts they would have is Lin, Asik, Davis & Bynum. All others would be expired or on rookie pay.
July 19th, 2012 at 10:18 am
No pressure on bynum he just wants a max deal.
July 19th, 2012 at 10:18 am
By the way, you might suspect there’s a problem when a ‘homer’ like Flores offers even a mild criticism of McLame.
‘Look like an All-Pro on one play’, my butt.
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Hammer meet Nail.
July 19th, 2012 at 10:18 am
Where the hell has DJ Sully Fresh been?
Every since we outed him he is not in here as much.
Well I cant complain about that I guess I should feel proud that my consistent beat downs have caused him to stay away.
So funny when he uses the FBI and CIA to threaten us with.
July 19th, 2012 at 10:18 am
http://www.andthevalleyshook.com/2012/7/19/3168624/jamarcus-russell-got-robbed-of-the-2006-heisman-trophy
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A lot of revisionist history by clowns on this board about JR’s college career. This Poseur dude does a nice job of setting the record straight. There’s no way in hell JR should have busted out here. Al drew up the blueprint on how to make sure your #1 overall pick is reviled by the media and the fans, and is ultimately run out of town within three years. Poor JaMarcus.
July 19th, 2012 at 10:20 am
Dakota Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 10:15 am
423.DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 10:07 am
Rockets get: Andrew Bynum, Glen Davis, Chris Duhon, Josh McRoberts
Lakers get: Dwight Howard, Jason Richardson, Quentin Richardson
Magic get: Kevin Martin, Jeremy Lamb, Devin Ebanks, Chandler Parsons, Terrence Jones, Steve Blake TOR 1st rd Pick.
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Is that junk really better than getting a 24 year old center who will give you 25 ppg as the first option on offense?
I don’t care if Bynum goes to Orlando or Cleveland or Houston, but what I don’t understand is that if Houston is willing to trade a huge group of players and picks to Orlando for Howard straight up, why would any deal to get Bynum to Houston somehow result in a better deal for Orlando? Houston isn’t going to offer MORE for Bynum than they would for Howard.
What a mess. Once Bynum bends to the pressure he will agree to sign on with Orlando and that will be the basis of the deal. Just watch and see.
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Junk?
You must not watch much basketball.
And yes, thats better than getting just Bynum. All day, any day.
We’re trying to re-build. Understand that.
July 19th, 2012 at 10:20 am
Rolando looked like a Pro Bowler the first 55 minutes of the Lions game.
Blew up a 3rd down and forced a punt with a PERFECT read on the snapcount for a sack.
Two straight 3rd and 4th and 1 stuffs by our D with RoBeast right in the middle of it.
The next 5 minutes……disaster, lol.
July 19th, 2012 at 10:21 am
http://twitpic.com/8nrg19
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Any takers on this guy being the next busted for roids?lol
July 19th, 2012 at 10:21 am
Bynums been fishisng in alaska so they had to wait on him..
July 19th, 2012 at 10:22 am
Marks hair Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 10:21 am
Bynums been fishisng in alaska so they had to wait on him..
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Also have to wait on the Lin/Asik deals.
Bynum’s agent was fishing with him too, you know he was talking to him about commiting elsewhere.
July 19th, 2012 at 10:22 am
RaiderDebbie LET IT GO!!!
JaMarcus is a worthless POS if he had any self esteem or desire to be something in his life he has not shown it.
Not one team wants his tired lazy ass.
July 19th, 2012 at 10:22 am
436.Marks hair Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 10:18 am
No pressure on bynum he just wants a max deal.
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That’s fine, then come out and say so. Right now it is reported that he would not commit to Orlando.
I know Bynum wants to stay in LA, but if he stays and he was the reason the lakers didn’t get Dwight Howrd, then he isn’t going to be well received in LA anymore, so he might as well understand that it isn’t in his best interest to be the guy who fked up that deal.
It isn’t like becoming a free agent in the NBA is some great deal….you lose money by doing so, so there is no upside for Bynum to cry about which team he is sent to. Everyone knows he is all about the max extension and that is what he would get anywhere, so just suck it up Bynum.
July 19th, 2012 at 10:22 am
Some of these guys were not big losses.
Campbell was playing well last year, but he got hurt and Palmer was acquired. Palmer is replacing Campbell and Leinart is replacing Boller: That’s an improvement.
Michael Bush is a loss but I’m counting on McFadden to stay healthy this year. We may still sign another player to replace Bush, and don’t forget about Jones.
Goodson is Cartwright’s replacement which is about a wash.
Satele, Heyer, Boss AND Jackson were ineffective.
Criner replaces Shielens.
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@ JR
Jason Campbell, Michael Bush, Rock Cartwright, Chaz Schilens, Kevin Boss, Samson Satele, Stephon Heyer & Hue Jackson aren’t addition by subtraction !!
especially when you replace them with Matt Leinart, Mike Goodson, Owen Schmitt, Juron Criner, Kyle Efaw, Mike Brisiel, Tony Bergstrom & Greg Knapp …
July 19th, 2012 at 10:23 am
@JFB
Re: Veldheer , thanks for clearing that up!
LaMarr Houston is overrated ??
I’ve never heard anybody say much about him this offseason. 1 or 2 guys mentioned him as a possible NT yesterday due to his strength, but thats about it. I haven’t heard any bold predictions or Pro Bowl talk. Just that he’s starting this season on most semi pro depth charts I’ve glanced at
July 19th, 2012 at 10:24 am
I think the first commenter on that Jamarcus link states it best.
Troy Smith played great in his big games, Jamarcus like crap.
1 TD 4 picks in the two biggest games that year for the Chosen One.
July 19th, 2012 at 10:24 am
Or he could fade into the sunset and play thug in Bama.
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To me he is approaching BRL status.
Hoping a kic in the azz by YGP will make him see the light.
July 19th, 2012 at 10:26 am
Houston, MM34, Veldheer…..all semi-pro golden boys in my eyes. Zack Miller and Bruce Campbell used to be on this list.
Savage, Barnes, DHB to an extent are the opposite, can’t do no right. Satele and CJ37 used to be on the short list.
Houston = Bobby Hamilton
Look it up.
July 19th, 2012 at 10:26 am
I cant understand how Lamarr Houston can be considered over-rated?..
July 19th, 2012 at 10:28 am
Ok so we are 5 plus million UNDER the cap.
You may as well spend that $$$ right? Am I missing something?
You can’t keep it for next year so what is Reggie gonna do with it?
July 19th, 2012 at 10:28 am
Our first draft pick this year is like 3 years older then McClain still, lol.
Rolando might be the youngest starting MLB in the league again this year, or at least one of them.
He needs to be pushed with extreme discipline, like Saban, and he thrives.
The Hue Jackson laisez-faire attitude mixed with a completely overwhelmed Chuck B wasn’t going to cut it.
July 19th, 2012 at 10:28 am
I’m gonna do it bro..won’t be betting much but will put something on those odds.lol
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You almost have to with those numbers
July 19th, 2012 at 10:28 am
LHOUSTON needs to be moved to the inside…
July 19th, 2012 at 10:28 am
Houston = Bobby Hamilton
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I don’t always agree with JFB, JFB = spot on! But I got into a war the other week for mildly criticising Houston.
He’s not a golden boy in my eyes
July 19th, 2012 at 10:29 am
I cant understand how Lamarr Houston can be considered over-rated?..
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Simple.
People think he was a great draft pick and is a solid starting NFL lineman.
He just may be an average draft pick, with a future career as a rotational guy.
July 19th, 2012 at 10:30 am
you mean in a 3-4 he can potentially thrive.
July 19th, 2012 at 10:30 am
LHOUSTON needs to be moved to the inside…
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disagree!
He may be 305, but he plays with the leverage of an OLB.
July 19th, 2012 at 10:31 am
3-4, 4-3, UT/NT, 0 gap, 3 gap, No gap, ZBS/Power-Blocking, Power-blocking-hybrid-ZBS……I don’t know man, I don’t get into all that stuff.
I think he will play better this year, be it a 4-3, 3-4, or 2-4-5.
Better is just better.
July 19th, 2012 at 10:31 am
Steve Blake, Kevin Martin…..serviceable junk
Jones….might have some upside
Parsons….2nd round pick
Lamb 11 ppg in college
unknown pick from Toronto…
vs 24 year old all star center. Okay then. Good luck with that. lol
July 19th, 2012 at 10:31 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 10:29 am
I cant understand how Lamarr Houston can be considered over-rated?..
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Simple.
People think he was a great draft pick and is a solid starting NFL lineman.
He just may be an average draft pick, with a future career as a rotational guy.
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Or he may not.
lol.. No one has him in the Pro Bowl, so he cant be over rated.
He hasnt been spectacular, but he hasnt sucked either.
You have no ground to have that stand on him.
July 19th, 2012 at 10:32 am
He just may be an average draft pick, with a future career as a rotational guy.
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Realistic to say he’s going to be a rotational guy, but he’ll be in on the majority of snaps and can improve on his game. He’s got some upside. But he’s way overrated in the opinions of the semipros on this blog.
July 19th, 2012 at 10:32 am
disagree!
He may be 305, but he plays with the leverage of an OLB.
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Its a blog right to disagree and be wrong…No worries.
July 19th, 2012 at 10:32 am
L Houston is not overrated.
Bruce and CC are overrated.
July 19th, 2012 at 10:33 am
3-4, 4-3, UT/NT, 0 gap, 3 gap, No gap, ZBS/Power-Blocking, Power-blocking-hybrid-ZBS……I don’t know man, I don’t get into all that stuff.
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hahahahahahahahaha…Ok Bruh.
July 19th, 2012 at 10:33 am
Houston = Bobby Hamilton
Look it up.
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LOL!!
I don’t remember Bobby being all that bad, when we got him in 2004 (reunited with Rob Ryan) from New England.
undrafted in ‘94 , caught on with the Jets in ‘96 and ended up starting 11 games for them that season.
after being dumped by the Jets, Hamilton became a full-time starter at DE from 2000-2005 and helped the Pats win 2 Super Bowls!!
not bad for an undrafted kid, 10+ years in the league
July 19th, 2012 at 10:34 am
Dakota Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 10:31 am
Steve Blake, Kevin Martin…..serviceable junk
Jones….might have some upside
Parsons….2nd round pick
Lamb 11 ppg in college
unknown pick from Toronto…
vs 24 year old all star center. Okay then. Good luck with that. lol
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Plus getting rid of 95% of all our bad contracts??
Thanks!
And out of Kevin Martin & Bynum, 1 has a career avg of 18 ppg… HINT…its not Bynum.
July 19th, 2012 at 10:34 am
Its a blog right to disagree and be wrong…No worries.
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yeah, that’s cool.
July 19th, 2012 at 10:34 am
With this 5 mill. under the cap does it make any sense to stay under it?
Sure, you save 5 mill. for the org but the Raiders (any sports team) makes more money by WINNING than anything else.
Anyone expect some more signings with this 5 mill.?
July 19th, 2012 at 10:36 am
every NBA GM would take Bynum over Kevin Martin….don’t get crazy on us DAV.
July 19th, 2012 at 10:36 am
L Houston, Dez, and Shaughnessy are not overrated. TK is a solid player when he has talent around him, and Seymour is overated IMO.
July 19th, 2012 at 10:36 am
Anyone expect some more signings with this 5 mill.?
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I think everyone expects we sign another backup RB. I hope we sign a legit NFL quality TE.
July 19th, 2012 at 10:36 am
it’s ok to write off Houston (heading into his 3rd season) , but not McClain (heading into his 3rd season) ???
July 19th, 2012 at 10:36 am
I’ll just say I disagree about Lamarr Houston..
I hope he changes your guys mind..
July 19th, 2012 at 10:37 am
Dakota Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 10:36 am
every NBA GM would take Bynum over Kevin Martin….don’t get crazy on us DAV.
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For sure.
But you called Martin garbage.. Just pointing out the facts.
July 19th, 2012 at 10:37 am
LHOUSTON is going to be playing inside this year, and is going to shine.
July 19th, 2012 at 10:38 am
Houston does best coming off the end, either as DE or an OLB. To move him inside would be, I think, a huge mistake.
July 19th, 2012 at 10:39 am
Who is writing off L. Houston???
I think he can improve his game in the right scheme and when rotated with Tollefson. I don’t see him as an every down DE. But he’s a valuable piece to work around. But just not as valuable or studly as many think him to be.
July 19th, 2012 at 10:39 am
RM99 had it right. when a NATION homer like TFLORES goes in on you, we all should be concerned.
July 19th, 2012 at 10:39 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 10:36 am
it’s ok to write off Houston (heading into his 3rd season) , but not McClain (heading into his 3rd season) ???
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If Houston turns out to be Bobby Hamilton, I’ll be thrilled.
July 19th, 2012 at 10:39 am
I’ve never been one to label any player a “bust” after only two seasons, but I think he knows Reg won’t take his crap if that’s what he produces on the field this year..
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Agreed.
McLame has to know he’s skating on very thin ice.
I can deal with a player turning out to be a bust because he’s just not good enough or talented enough to succeed in the NFL.
Organizations are going to whiff when doing player evaluations.
What really sucks is when off-field issues or immaturity, or lack of desire dooms a pick from the start.
JaMoron probably would have been a bust even if he wasn’t a lazy sizzurp slurping blob – he was just too stupid to ever pan out. But he didn’t even give himself a chance. That’s why he’s such a monumental bust.
Hope McLame doesn’t go down the same path.
The Raids will give him every chance to succeed. If he can’t bring it on the field due to lack of talent or ability, fine – it was nice knowing you Slow. Best of luck.
But if he flames out due to lack of desire or being a cornhole off the field then phuck him.
July 19th, 2012 at 10:39 am
JFB’s favorite players are Bruce Garbagekowski and Savage. That should tell you something. lol
July 19th, 2012 at 10:40 am
Lamar Houston was near the top of the NFL in holding penalties drawn.
July 19th, 2012 at 10:40 am
LHOUSTON is going to be playing inside this year, and is going to shine.
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He’s a 3 tech, moving him inside would be a serious mistake.
July 19th, 2012 at 10:40 am
YOU PEOPLE were critical of Al Davis moving Houston to DE, but he played LB in high school and DE for the first two years at Texas …
Raiders already had 2 DT’s in Seymour & Kelly. We didn’t have a base end.
check it out
http://www.raiders.com/news/2010-Draft/article-1/Raiders-Trade-Back-Select-Lamarr-Houston/b61fcf42-ec9d-4743-8fcf-7739f6e1bad9
July 19th, 2012 at 10:41 am
raidertbone Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 10:38 am
Houston does best coming off the end, either as DE or an OLB. To move him inside would be, I think, a huge mistake.
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I have to diagree Brother. He is more disruptive inside.
July 19th, 2012 at 10:41 am
RM99 had it right. when a NATION homer like TFLORES goes in on you, we all should be concerned.
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Thec,
I’m BEYOND concerned. I’m panicked to have #55 as our starting MLB.
July 19th, 2012 at 10:42 am
He needs to be pushed with extreme discipline, like Saban, and he thrives.
The Hue Jackson laisez-faire attitude mixed with a completely overwhelmed Chuck B wasn’t going to cut it.
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I just hope this “extreme discipline” extends to Carson Palmer. Boneheaded picks cannot be tolerated. Until he cleans that part of his game up, he’ll always be a losing QB.
July 19th, 2012 at 10:42 am
Dakota, there’s no way you take Bynum over this:
-Get rid of J Rich, Duhon, Glen Davis & Q Rich’s contracts
-Kevin Martin 12 mil expiring contract
-Jeremy Lamb
-Devin Ebanks
-Chandler Parsons (underrated Orlando native)
-Terrence Jones
-Steve Blake
-TOR lottery pick
July 19th, 2012 at 10:43 am
I guess in hindsight Reggie could’ve kept Bush and paid him, but the only thing is he DIDN’T WANT HIM.
Reggie getting alot of flak from media for letting him go, but the “Packer Way” is you don’t neceessarily NEED the star RB…
I realize each team does things differently based on the talent at their disposal, but each org. also has a vision…a blueprint for what they wanna do. GB hasn’t had a stud RB …or should I say star RB for ages. Closest to it was probably Dorsey Levens who ended up being just a guy when it was all said and done.
Makes me wonder if DMAC gets injured again if Reggie determines..”hey..we’ll be okay without him”.
July 19th, 2012 at 10:43 am
He’s a 3 tech, moving him inside would be a serious mistake.
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@G123
according to some, NT’s are a dying breed – like traditional blocking FB’s
plenty of teams are putting two pass rush artists at DT as it’s becomes more of a passing league
July 19th, 2012 at 10:43 am
You People want Houston to rotate with Tollefson? What has Tollefson done to earn this much respect?
Tollefson is a backup. Period!
July 19th, 2012 at 10:45 am
diagree, means either you cannot spell,or have an issue with the keyboard.
July 19th, 2012 at 10:45 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 10:43 am
He’s a 3 tech, moving him inside would be a serious mistake.
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@G123
according to some, NT’s are a dying breed – like traditional blocking FB’s
plenty of teams are putting two pass rush artists at DT as it’s becomes more of a passing league
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Yep..
QBs, DEs & CBs are the highest paid positions…
Its a passing league.
July 19th, 2012 at 10:45 am
McClain is a badass! I’ll take a guy accused of “menacing” over some choir boy loser (Kirk Morrison)as my MLB any day of the week.
July 19th, 2012 at 10:45 am
485.DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 10:40 am
Lamar Houston was near the top of the NFL in holding penalties drawn.
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Seems strange when anyone talks about penalties that were actually called in Raiders’ favor.
They do that every now and then?
July 19th, 2012 at 10:46 am
Houston has also been utilized on special teams and as a fullback to root out linebackers in short yardage and goalline situations. In 50 games at Texas, he started 33 times, playing with the first unit as a “power” end, “quick” end and right defensive tackle.
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FB issues solved…
July 19th, 2012 at 10:47 am
I just hope this “extreme discipline” extends to Carson Palmer. Boneheaded picks cannot be tolerated. Until he cleans that part of his game up, he’ll always be a losing QB.
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@Debo
thats why we brought in Greg Knapp and his run-oriented offense. We’re going to run, run and then run some more. Then we’re going to throw it over their heads. play action will be very successful, as long as DMAC stays healthy. the days of Palmer tossing bombs and trusting his young wides to go get it are done, I hope. Saunders and his Air Coryell playbook are still on staff though, which has me a bit concerned. Perhaps we’ll be “multiple” on offense, like we will be on defense
July 19th, 2012 at 10:47 am
Thec Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 10:46 am
Houston has also been utilized on special teams and as a fullback to root out linebackers in short yardage and goalline situations. In 50 games at Texas, he started 33 times, playing with the first unit as a “power” end, “quick” end and right defensive tackle.
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FB issues solved…
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Well, he was a high school RB..
July 19th, 2012 at 10:47 am
McClain is a badass!
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yeah, on the streets of Bama, on the football field he is lacking.
July 19th, 2012 at 10:47 am
The value of a good space eating NT can’t be overstated. If he can occupy the space of 2 OL while clogging the middle, he puts the 3 techs and LB’s in space to win one on one battles to take down the RB in the backfield. A good NT is rare, but is a gamechanger. No way they are a dying breed, just endangered species.
July 19th, 2012 at 10:48 am
McClain is a badass! I’ll take a guy accused of “menacing” over some choir boy loser (Kirk Morrison)as my MLB any day of the week.
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Kirk Morrison > Rolando World Peace
24/7
July 19th, 2012 at 10:49 am
“as long as DMAC stays healthy.” – Raiderrockstar
Quote of the year!
July 19th, 2012 at 10:50 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 10:47 am
I just hope this “extreme discipline” extends to Carson Palmer. Boneheaded picks cannot be tolerated. Until he cleans that part of his game up, he’ll always be a losing QB.
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@Debo
thats why we brought in Greg Knapp and his run-oriented offense. We’re going to run, run and then run some more. Then we’re going to throw it over their heads. play action will be very successful, as long as DMAC stays healthy. the days of Palmer tossing bombs and trusting his young wides to go get it are done, I hope. Saunders and his Air Coryell playbook are still on staff though, which has me a bit concerned. Perhaps we’ll be “multiple” on offense, like we will be on defense
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I like this idea. My only issue is that we’re basically asking Palmer to be Jason Campbell. We could have kept him around AND added a starter in the 1st round this year and possibly one in the 2nd next year. Bad, bad deal for Palmer.
July 19th, 2012 at 10:50 am
A good NT is rare, but is a gamechanger. No way they are a dying breed, just endangered species.
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@G123
in a 3-4 defense, having a quality NT is a must.
most 4-3 teams in the league dont give a rip
July 19th, 2012 at 10:51 am
LOL at McCheese being a bada$$
maybe in the streets of Decatur.
July 19th, 2012 at 10:51 am
497.RaiderDebo Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 10:45 am
McClain is a badass! I’ll take a guy accused of “menacing” over some choir boy loser (Kirk Morrison)as my MLB any day of the week.
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“Badass” doesn’t get it done when you whiff on opposing QB’s in critical moments of a season.
It’s very possible if McClain makes that tackle …and he should have…Raiders end up winning the division last yr.
I’m sorry, but I still haven’t gotten over that….and the thought that right now he’s hiding behind a tree somewhere in Alabama waiting to shoot somebody.
July 19th, 2012 at 10:51 am
Saunders and his Air Coryell playbook are still on staff though, which has me a bit concerned. Perhaps we’ll be “multiple” on offense, like we will be on defense
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YES….Most have forgotten about ASAUNDERS.
I beleive the the situation will dictate what type of O we run. Game to game we may see something totally diff from the week before…
My biggest hope is the in game adjustments. Those are the most critical.
July 19th, 2012 at 10:53 am
badass = pat willis
McCheese = Mayor of McDonalds
July 19th, 2012 at 10:54 am
Look at the Super Bowl teams of today. What do they have in common? Franchise QB’s who can make the deep throw into tight windows.
Used to be a day and age when you could win without a franchise QB. But those days are gone. Soup was never going to lead us to the Super Bowl, and he won’t be able to lead Chicago either.
Even if we overpaid for Palmer, it was a very smart trade. We now have a fighting chance to think about the Super Bowl, when before we were just dreaming.
July 19th, 2012 at 10:54 am
and the thought that right now he’s hiding behind a tree somewhere in Alabama waiting to shoot somebody.
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ROFLMAO….Wow
July 19th, 2012 at 10:54 am
theghostronin79 Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 10:28 am
I’m gonna do it bro..won’t be betting much but will put something on those odds.lol
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You almost have to with those numbers
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Yeah no kidding man, and to show that I have faith in RM and the new Raiders!!
July 19th, 2012 at 10:56 am
Even if we overpaid for Palmer, it was a very smart trade. We now have a fighting chance to think about the Super Bowl, when before we were just dreaming.
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Solid point, what is not being reported is CPIII is playing with a chip on his shoulders.
He beleives he is elite, and will be playing with a chip.
CP has something to prove.
July 19th, 2012 at 10:57 am
@Debo
Palmer has playoff experience, Pro Bowls, and many good seasons under his belt. He’s a leader and he’s got a big arm. He knows the offense now and he’s building chemistry with his teammates. Taking Pryor under his wing as well. Restructured to save the team millions in cap space. Right now you couldn’t ask for more out of your starting QB.
Hue Jackson had zero discipline. I don’t think all these INT’s will be tolerated by Dennis Allen. the Raiders didn’t even have a QB Coach last year!
Carson will be the LEAST of our problems in 2012, as long as his O-Line & WR Corps do their jobs [poor JaMarcus]
July 19th, 2012 at 10:57 am
http://www.walldecalsforkidsrooms.co/DarrenMcFaddenStiffArmInYourFaceMural
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This is what DMAC does to juicers like Landry.lol
July 19th, 2012 at 10:58 am
CP has something to prove.
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It sure sounds that way. I hope you are right. But even though I’m 100% convinced in his talent and that he’s elite, he’s kinda flaky and a bit of a goofball. I hope he has a mean streak in there somewhere. Like Gannon did when guys were tired or loafing.
July 19th, 2012 at 10:58 am
512.guest123 Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 10:54 am
Look at the Super Bowl teams of today. What do they have in common? Franchise QB’s who can make the deep throw into tight windows.
Used to be a day and age when you could win without a franchise QB. But those days are gone. Soup was never going to lead us to the Super Bowl, and he won’t be able to lead Chicago either.
Even if we overpaid for Palmer, it was a very smart trade. We now have a fighting chance to think about the Super Bowl, when before we were just dreaming.
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Everytime that is brought up someone will pull Trent Dilfer out of their arse.
Maybe JC gets us to the big game…IF we have a defense like the Ravens had….but it had better be big time dominant.
We don’t have that…yet.
July 19th, 2012 at 10:58 am
I’m not going to compare McClain to Pat Willis (the best LB in the league), I think McClain is solid, but he needs to become an impact player to validate the top 10 selection.
July 19th, 2012 at 10:58 am
Gotta run…You guys have a great day.
Only one sports franchise can claim to be a NATION.
July 19th, 2012 at 10:58 am
Even if we overpaid for Palmer, it was a very smart trade. We now have a fighting chance to think about the Super Bowl, when before we were just dreaming.
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Solid point, what is not being reported is CPIII is playing with a chip on his shoulders.
He beleives he is elite, and will be playing with a chip.
CP has something to prove.
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YUP ! ! !
ALL of it.
July 19th, 2012 at 10:59 am
Who made a comparision to pat willis????
July 19th, 2012 at 11:00 am
Guest,
I think Palmer DOES have that.
I’ve seen no evidence he is anything but a leader with this team.
Why didn’t he win in Cincy? You can’t do it all alone.
July 19th, 2012 at 11:00 am
McCheese couldn’t carry Pat Willis’s jockstrap.
July 19th, 2012 at 11:00 am
John Herrera is gone.
if McClain & Branch don’t play up to their contracts, who is going to escort them out ??
July 19th, 2012 at 11:01 am
guest123 Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 10:54 am
Look at the Super Bowl teams of today. What do they have in common? Franchise QB’s who can make the deep throw into tight windows.
Used to be a day and age when you could win without a franchise QB. But those days are gone. Soup was never going to lead us to the Super Bowl, and he won’t be able to lead Chicago either.
Even if we overpaid for Palmer, it was a very smart trade. We now have a fighting chance to think about the Super Bowl, when before we were just dreaming.
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You’ve got to quit listening to the talking heads that keep repeating the “franchise QB” garbage like a bunch of parrots! When are you going to figure out that winning the SB makes you a franchise QB and not the other way around?? Just last year after the Philly game, NY Giant fans wanted Eli run out of town. They back into the playoffs this year, go on a run and now you’re calling him a franchise QB. Just about any QB in the league can get hot in December and go on a run. At the end of the day though, what make CP more of a franchise QB than JC?
July 19th, 2012 at 11:01 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 11:00 am
John Herrera is gone.
if McClain & Branch don’t play up to their contracts, who is going to escort them out ??
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Won’t be an issue with Branch, but Reg can handle 55 all day bro
July 19th, 2012 at 11:02 am
When asked if he feels the pressure to succeed given all that was given up for him MOST QB’s would say “Nah. I just go out and play and don’t worry about that stuff. I can’t worry about it. I just go out there and do my best”. NO. Palmer says “Yes I realize that and I embrace the pressure”.
July 19th, 2012 at 11:03 am
At the end of the day though, what make CP more of a franchise QB than JC?
1. brass balls
2. ability to throw a deep spiral with perfect trajectory into tight spots
BTW, 2 follows 1 for a reason.
July 19th, 2012 at 11:03 am
McCheese couldn’t carry Pat Willis’s jockstrap.
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maybe that is what #55 uses to conceal & carry ?
July 19th, 2012 at 11:04 am
Spread the defense wide, then gash them up the middle. Bootleg it back to throw to a wide open receiver. Yeah these guys will score some points
July 19th, 2012 at 11:06 am
Palmer is going to rollout wide, then dumpoff to McFadden or Reece with blockers in front of them for 20-30 yards a pop
… like Trent Green used to do with Priest Holmes under Saunders!
July 19th, 2012 at 11:06 am
McCLains facebook page;
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Mayor-McCheese/19727068917
July 19th, 2012 at 11:06 am
guest123 Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 11:03 am
At the end of the day though, what make CP more of a franchise QB than JC?
1. brass balls
2. ability to throw a deep spiral with perfect trajectory into tight spots
BTW, 2 follows 1 for a reason.
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Endorsed! well said
July 19th, 2012 at 11:06 am
SR Raider Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 11:04 am
Spread the defense wide, then gash them up the middle. Bootleg it back to throw to a wide open receiver. Yeah these guys will score some points
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Spot on! But why limit the aerial attack to wideouts? Why not plug in a gifted receiving TE in there and make them defend the entire space of the field?
July 19th, 2012 at 11:08 am
We know better than the talking heads what’s up with this team. We practically live it everyday.
Dummies say “They gave up Routt and Wimbley. Whatever will they do now?” Or they cite Bush and his 3.8 ypc. as something that can’t be overcome.
“Al messes with the team. They’ll never win with him there.” “With a new GM now you can’t expect Raiders to win”.
I’m gonna trust my own analysis and that of guys who know something about this team.
Thank goodness they play the games on the field and not in ESPN meeting rooms.
July 19th, 2012 at 11:08 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 11:06 am
Palmer is going to rollout wide, then dumpoff to McFadden or Reece with blockers in front of them for 20-30 yards a pop
… like Trent Green used to do with Priest Holmes under Saunders!
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This.
Or hit Moore (I.Bruce) DHB (Holt)
July 19th, 2012 at 11:10 am
Raiders are obviously deprioritizing TE in the offense. At least for now. And the RB dumpoff passes will happen all the time – that’ll be meat and potatoes for this offense. But there is a enough WR talent on this team to get open, catch the ball and make big plays. If Moore, Ford, DHB and McFadden all start hitting there stride at the same time, watch out
July 19th, 2012 at 11:10 am
Don’t mean to belabor this but what is Reggie gonna do with that extra 5 mill. he has?
Gotta spend it right?
July 19th, 2012 at 11:12 am
http://news.yahoo.com/ford-recalls-2013-escapes-engines-catch-fire-123203130–finance.html
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Ok, so now it’s time to take the CEO in front of congress and embarrass him like with Toyota right?lol
July 19th, 2012 at 11:12 am
thats why we brought in Greg Knapp and his run-oriented offense. We’re going to run, run and then run some more.
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Maybe. But you’ve got to wonder if that’s a recipe for success in today’s NFL.
AND if that was the plan – retaining Bush might have been a higher priority.
I do think that Knapp’s ‘run, run, and run some more’ mentality should help limiting Palmer’s picks.
I’m just not sure any run first offense is going to put up tons of points these days.
No excuses for pathetic picks from Palmer this season.
Can’t have crap like the first half in GB or the pick in the 2nd half against Denver. Can’t have it.
Just horrible.
Palmer has a lot to prove to me.
This sounds insane now, but hear me out –
If the Raids do go RUN RUN RUN and Palmer is STILL throwing absurd picks –
The Nation will be clamoring for TP !
Can’t wait to see what TP’s got in a few weeks.
July 19th, 2012 at 11:12 am
The mediots talk more head about this team WITHOUT doing any research.
The theads dont cover or know shat about the NATION.
Do not mention the unadultered hate for the NATION.
I would put the knowledge of the Semi’s against any group of theads, or anyone else.
July 19th, 2012 at 11:12 am
Guest,
Remember, Palmer is super high on Ausberry. Given that Knapp has said how important the tight end is to his offense, the fact they have done nothing tells me they may feel the same way about Ausberry.
July 19th, 2012 at 11:13 am
DJ Johnny Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 11:10 am
Don’t mean to belabor this but what is Reggie gonna do with that extra 5 mill. he has?
Gotta spend it right?
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Not that important on July 19th.
July 19th, 2012 at 11:13 am
Or hit Moore (I.Bruce) DHB (Holt)
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@DAV
I was referring to Saunders/Green KC connection
I think they had Morton, Kennison and Hall at WR back then.
July 19th, 2012 at 11:13 am
Raiders are obviously deprioritizing TE in the offense. At least for now. And the RB dumpoff passes will happen all the time – that’ll be meat and potatoes for this offense. But there is a enough WR talent on this team to get open, catch the ball and make big plays. If Moore, Ford, DHB and McFadden all start hitting there stride at the same time, watch out
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This all sounds good, but defense will catch up to what we are doing. I think it will behoove us to develop a TE heavy attack that can be relied upon just in case they choose to gameplan our receivers and shut that down. Not something I think we’ll use often, but a useful tool to have in the arsenal of attack. Keep them guessing. Keep them defending.
July 19th, 2012 at 11:14 am
STFU about Palmer you stupid fat country bumpkin.
Go to the Broncos blog with that shlt you stupid simpleton!
Palmer is our QB and he is going to be great this year top 5 print it!
July 19th, 2012 at 11:15 am
Sorry dudes, not trying to spark a political debate..just posted that FYI in case yall own a 2013 Escape..
July 19th, 2012 at 11:15 am
Remember, Palmer is super high on Ausberry. Given that Knapp has said how important the tight end is to his offense, the fact they have done nothing tells me they may feel the same way about Ausberry.
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I’m not trashing Ausberry, but he’s got 2 catches in his career, and if it’s true he is the sucessor to Boss, at least bring in some proven TE’s to compete with so at the end of camp, you have a fail-safe position.
July 19th, 2012 at 11:15 am
Thec,
Yes. We know this team better than those goofballs.
July 19th, 2012 at 11:16 am
Palmer has to stop the bad picks for sure, unless they are on long bombs and he goes 3 TD 1 INT like Stabler used to do all year long. As long as they grind it out and win in the end, it’s all good
July 19th, 2012 at 11:16 am
Guest,
Then Reggie should take some of that 5 mill. he has and go get one.
July 19th, 2012 at 11:17 am
I agree that he needs to become an impact player, but I don’t think he is as bad as some of you claim.
I agree with Vegas on this one. He just turned 23, that’s 3 years younger than our 1st pick this year (26 YO OL, Reggie’s 1st pick, and a guy some of you like), and that’s the avg age in the draft (22/23).
He is not going anywhere, so get over it.
July 19th, 2012 at 11:20 am
I understand your love for Jason Campbell but he was a stop gap QB that we acquired for a 4th round draft pick and he is now a happy clip board holder!
Palmer is a top 10 possibly higher QB that is way better at making reads at the LOS among other things.
Why the hate for our QB is so hard to understand!
July 19th, 2012 at 11:21 am
Thec Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 10:53 am
badass = pat willis
McCheese = Mayor of McDonalds
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Hilarious !
I’m gonna start calling him Ronaldo.
July 19th, 2012 at 11:21 am
I agree that he needs to become an impact player, but I don’t think he is as bad as some of you claim.
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I assume you are adding TFLORES a RAIDERS insider who has also gone in on McCheese?
Him being younger than berg has shat to do with his instincts, and ability to ATTACK THE BALL ALL PLAYS.
July 19th, 2012 at 11:22 am
It’s a USC thing. Half the people in here support Ohio State. Hard to give up on college loyalties
July 19th, 2012 at 11:23 am
Palmer ought to have his schit together this year and possibly surpass the likes of Romo and Schaub imo.
July 19th, 2012 at 11:23 am
Palmer has 106 career starts in which he has thrown 116 INT’s … although 3 of those INT’s came against KC last year (a game he didn’t start)
on average, Palmer throws about 1 INT per game.
16 INT’s in 2012 wouldn’t be horrible imo – I mean, thats how many he threw last season in just 9.5 games !!
he’s a gunslinger fellas, not a game manager
July 19th, 2012 at 11:25 am
Palmer would need to have at least 25-30 TD’s to justify 16 INT’s though !!
July 19th, 2012 at 11:25 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 11:23 am
Palmer has 106 career starts in which he has thrown 116 INT’s … although 3 of those INT’s came against KC last year (a game he didn’t start)
on average, Palmer throws about 1 INT per game.
16 INT’s in 2012 wouldn’t be horrible imo – I mean, thats how many he threw last season in just 9.5 games !!
he’s a gunslinger fellas, not a game manager
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Yessir, and a gunslinger with a few more targets this year!
July 19th, 2012 at 11:26 am
TxRaider210 Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 11:06 am
guest123 Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 11:03 am
At the end of the day though, what make CP more of a franchise QB than JC?
1. brass balls
2. ability to throw a deep spiral with perfect trajectory into tight spots
BTW, 2 follows 1 for a reason.
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Endorsed! well said
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Brass balls??? Why, because he has no qualms about throwing it to the other team over and over and over?? Nothing about the guy has been clutch here except for maybe the the KC game. But I give the OL and DHB as much credit as Palmer for that play. On the other hand, JC showed me the clutch gene in several games here including SD, KC, J’ville and Buffalo. On the contrary, I think CP needs to grow a pair so he can make winning throws, like the one he missed late against Detroit, late.
July 19th, 2012 at 11:26 am
Palmer just has a lot more natural ability and physical talent than Soup. It’s God given gift. Soup never had it, and never will.
Soup by any defintion has been a failure as an NFL QB. The only thing to his credit is parlaying his overdrafted first round selection into a relatively long career only because he’s a very hard worker.
But that’s where it ends. He doesn’t believe he has the talent to attempt the circus catch throws so he shotputs ducks out of bounds when no one is open. Safe game manager, nothing ventured nothing gained type of guy. Carson will fail at times, but at least he takes his shots, because he has the confidence in his ability.
July 19th, 2012 at 11:26 am
like I said, 3 TD 1 INT is ok with me as long as they are long bombs and not pick 6’s. The gunslinging days were pretty darn good around here
July 19th, 2012 at 11:28 am
Palmer would need to have at least 25-30 TD’s to justify 16 INT’s though !!
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prediction for 2012….
done and done
July 19th, 2012 at 11:29 am
Well JC did go down with a broken collar bone, and CP had been chillin at his pad semi-retired, so it is what it is. Only direction is up for him, after the lack of preparation time last year.
July 19th, 2012 at 11:29 am
My prediction for Palmer: 26 TDs and 14 INTs.
July 19th, 2012 at 11:29 am
Funny – when you go back and look at tape, many of CP’s picks were either deflections off a receiver’s hands or the play followed 1 or 2 plays after one of his receivers dropped a ball. I’m not saying that #3 is void of all blame, I’m just sayin’ it’s not nearly as bad as some of the trolls would want everyone to believe.
July 19th, 2012 at 11:32 am
SR Raider Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 11:26 am
like I said, 3 TD 1 INT is ok with me as long as they are long bombs and not pick 6’s. The gunslinging days were pretty darn good around here
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Eli is a prime example that a gunslinger, who throws a decent amount of picks, can still get it done by fine-tuning their game throughout a FULL season.
July 19th, 2012 at 11:33 am
Campbell is a good quarterback who never got right with a system. When he finally did, he got injured. Palmer, on the other hand, is a Pro Bowl caliber QB that we got lucky on acquiring (despite that it cost a lot!). Now, with a full offseason of conditioning, a new system and a full training camp working with both the system and the receivers, I think you’ll see a big difference. Plus, you get to see a lot of young, hungry players seeking to impress a true football man (Reggie).
July 19th, 2012 at 11:34 am
“Now, with a full offseason of conditioning, a new system and a full training camp working with both the system and the receivers, I think you’ll see a big difference. Plus, you get to see a lot of young, hungry players seeking to impress a true football man (Reggie).”
This is so true!
Nice post
July 19th, 2012 at 11:34 am
@571
Right on point bro!
July 19th, 2012 at 11:36 am
Oh its been so long since the JC CP comparisons! Why did it come up again? JC is in Chicago, backing up Cutler! CP is our starter until further notice! Come on guys!
July 19th, 2012 at 11:36 am
AFC West foes:
Phyllis Rivers has 78 INT’s in 96 starts, even after throwing 20 last year.
Peyton Manning has 198 INT’s in 208 starts, 28 of those coming from his rookie season.
Matt Cassel has 43 INT’s in 54 starts.
Other noted gunslingers:
Jay Cutler with 86 INT’s in 78 starts.
Brett Favre with 336 INT’s in 298 starts.
July 19th, 2012 at 11:37 am
he’s a gunslinger fellas, not a game manager
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Gunslinger in a run, run, run offense huh ?
Might not be a great fit.
We need a gunslinger AND a good game manager.
Sure, CP is light years ahead of a scrub like JC at making LOS reads, running a no huddle, and making a throw…
But it don’t mean shiite if he’s going to piss games away with silly picks.
QUESTION TO THE SEMI’S HERE:
If you had to bet now, what position will the Raids most likely be looking to fill with our 2012 number one ?
Of course, who is available and where we’ll be picking will be a huge determinant – but what position will the Raids be looking to bolster first ?
July 19th, 2012 at 11:38 am
What do these guys have in common?
Daryl Washington
Sean Lee
Brandon Spikes
Pat Angerer
Navorro Bowman
1. They are all L
July 19th, 2012 at 11:39 am
I agree that he needs to become an impact player, but I don’t think he is as bad as some of you claim.
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I assume you are adding TFLORES a RAIDERS insider who has also gone in on McCheese?
Him being younger than berg has shat to do with his instincts, and ability to ATTACK THE BALL ALL PLAYS.
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I dont remember what Flores said about McClain, but I do remember Reggie and AD saying he was very talented and smart.
His age is not a factor for instincts, but it shows that he young enough to develop. Same age as most kids drafted this year.
The heat is killing me bro. It was much better at the beg of the week.
July 19th, 2012 at 11:40 am
What do these guys have in common?
Daryl Washington
Sean Lee
Brandon Spikes
Pat Angerer
Navorro Bowman
1. They are all LB’s.
2. Were drafted in the 2010 draft after McCheese.
3. To date they have ALL outperformed McCheese and are “Impact Players”
July 19th, 2012 at 11:40 am
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 11:37 am
We need a gunslinger AND a good game manager.
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We need a winner. Someone with an arm that can put the team on his back and say “we’re going to win this game”. Eli and Peyton are great examples, as are Stabler and Gannon. Palmer can be that guy if he wakes up
July 19th, 2012 at 11:41 am
The heat is killing me bro. It was much better at the beg of the week.
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The humidity also at times…Weird shat Bruh…
July 19th, 2012 at 11:43 am
oddly enough, Jeff George only had 113 INT’s in 125 starts!!
Kerry Collins had 196 INT’s in 180 starts though ..
July 19th, 2012 at 11:43 am
QUESTION TO THE SEMI’S HERE:
If you had to bet now, what position will the Raids most likely be looking to fill with our 2012 number one ?
Of course, who is available and where we’ll be picking will be a huge determinant – but what position will the Raids be looking to bolster first ?
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You read my mind on this one as i was thinking the same thing earlier.
Best LB on the board
July 19th, 2012 at 11:44 am
raidertbone Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 11:29 am
Funny – when you go back and look at tape, many of CP’s picks were either deflections off a receiver’s hands or the play followed 1 or 2 plays after one of his receivers dropped a ball. I’m not saying that #3 is void of all blame, I’m just sayin’ it’s not nearly as bad as some of the trolls would want everyone to believe.
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You are right on the mark. To put all INT’s on the passer is ridiculous. At a minimum, 50% of most INT’s are a direct result of WR error (i.e. bad hands, running wrong route, not going 100% for the pass, etc.) I’d really like the statisticians to start counting INT-P or INT-R. That would certainly help paint a clearer picture. CP3 is going to have a career best year coming up. I see us with a top 5 offense and that doesn’t happen without a top QB. Acquiring CP3 is probably the best thing that HuJack did while he was here.
July 19th, 2012 at 11:44 am
sign benson damnit
July 19th, 2012 at 11:46 am
LB or CB
July 19th, 2012 at 11:46 am
584 thats what bengals fans used to say to make themselves feel better
July 19th, 2012 at 11:46 am
nobody cares about comparing Palmer to other gunslingers ??
alright. stat research, meet trash bin
July 19th, 2012 at 11:47 am
ill pay for bensons plane ticket if it gets him signed
July 19th, 2012 at 11:48 am
i think palmer should be @ least 5 spots higher on jaws list you guys see that bs
July 19th, 2012 at 11:51 am
Hey Rockstar… I liked that research! Keep the hard work coming!
July 19th, 2012 at 11:52 am
ill pay for bensons plane ticket if it gets him signed
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@ mcskinnny
I think Cedric is waiting for Reggie to up his vet minimum offer by about $1.5 million – which probably wont happen
July 19th, 2012 at 11:52 am
I think Cedric is waiting for Reggie to up his vet minimum offer by about $1.5 million – which probably wont happen
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you trying to put me in a good mood?
July 19th, 2012 at 11:54 am
You read my mind on this one as i was thinking the same thing earlier.
Best LB on the board
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Yep. That would be my guess too.
July 19th, 2012 at 11:54 am
I liked that research! Keep the hard work coming!
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@G123
should be be concerned that Palmer is the only QB in the AFC West with more INT’s than games started ??
July 19th, 2012 at 11:54 am
mcskinnnylegs Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 11:47 am
ill pay for bensons plane ticket if it gets him signed
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No need man, just buy him Sutter Home’s finest white wine.
July 19th, 2012 at 11:57 am
@G123
should be be concerned that Palmer is the only QB in the AFC West with more INT’s than games started ??
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Not worried. He has a strong group of young receivers and a franchise RB to hand off or pitch to. The game is going to slow down for him.
July 19th, 2012 at 11:58 am
If Pryor looks like a project still after 2012, draft Aaron Murray or another young QB in 2013.
July 19th, 2012 at 11:58 am
TxRaider210 Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 11:54 am
mcskinnnylegs Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 11:47 am
ill pay for bensons plane ticket if it gets him signed
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No need man, just buy him Sutter Home’s finest white wine.
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Watch it.. dont wanna end up like his roommate..
http://cdn.wl.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Benson.jpg
July 19th, 2012 at 11:58 am
The Reggie likes finding his gem LB’s later in the rounds, because he feels he can scout them better.
LB will be addressed, just not in the first round.
July 19th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 11:58 am
If Pryor looks like a project still after 2012, draft Aaron Murray or another young QB in 2013.
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@rockstar,
thoughts?
July 19th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 11:58 am
The Reggie likes finding his gem LB’s later in the rounds, because he feels he can scout them better.
LB will be addressed, just not in the first round.
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Spot on.
Except for Matthews.. But they probably didnt envision him dropping all the way to 26th pick..
July 19th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
Remember when Kerry Collins was killing the Raiders with INT’s ??
they told him if your man isn’t open, instead of taking a sack or forcing a throw – just throw it out of bounds.
I remember going to a game in Oakland against the Dolphins [which we lost] and Collins threw what seemed like 10 balls away, lol
I was so pissed, wishing he would have just chucked it to Randy Moss
July 19th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
I hope our first round pick next year is a good corner.
July 19th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
Im a Matt Barkley believer..
July 19th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
wtf was that picture looks like me now just had my wisdom teeth taken out
July 19th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
#1 pick next year should be a NT or ORT if someone doesn’t step up this upcoming season.
July 19th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
so now the consensus is were not going to sign benson.i heard the interview with benson i few days ago he said eventually hes gonna take what he can get
July 19th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
563. Crazy talk…..
July 19th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
he said eventually hes gonna take what he can get
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Benson wont get much, since he turns 30 in December.
July 19th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
Benson wont get much, since he turns 30 in December.
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lol,
for a one year deal, that’s not much of an issue.
July 19th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
we need a de if he’s there for our #1
July 19th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
Lets see who performs or doesn’t perform this year before we try and guess who we need to draft…
July 19th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
Im a Matt Barkley believer..
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I am an SC apologist, I have seen this guy live up close and in person. In my opinion, nothing I have seen suggest his game will translate to the NFL.
July 19th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
The Oakland Raiders have gone nine seasons without a playoff berth.
Under Hue Jackson, the 2011 Raiders believed they were poised to end the drought after a 5-2 start. They lost quarterback Jason Campbell to a broken collarbone in Week Six. Capitalizing on a brief power acquisition following the passing of longtime owner Al Davis, Jackson attempted to save the season by sending first- and second-round draft picks to Cincinnati in exchange for quarterback Carson Palmer. The move backfired miserably as Palmer threw 16 interceptions in ten appearances, and Jackson was fired after the season.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/13/preseason-power-rankings-no-23-oakland-raiders/
July 19th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
Lets see who performs or doesn’t perform this year before we try and guess who we need to draft…
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Exactly!
July 19th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 11:58 am
TxRaider210 Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 11:54 am
mcskinnnylegs Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 11:47 am
ill pay for bensons plane ticket if it gets him signed
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No need man, just buy him Sutter Home’s finest white wine.
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Watch it.. dont wanna end up like his roommate..
http://cdn.wl.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Benson.jpg
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Yeah no schit man..I’d hate to see Benson get ahold of some MD 20/20’s lol
July 19th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
@Kell
that PFT article makes it sound like Palmer got Hue fired, lol
July 19th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
Lets see who performs or doesn’t perform this year before we try and guess who we need to draft…
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Exactly!
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Would rather talk about who shoulds than nba talk any day.
July 19th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
I’d hate to see Benson get ahold of some MD 20/20’s lol
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perro loco veinte veinte!!! aaaaaaahhh uuuuuu!!!
July 19th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
615. That sounds like a pretty stupid article.. Saying a midseason trade backfired? Kinda premature there no? And blaming the trade instead of the loss of dmac?
July 19th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 11:58 am
If Pryor looks like a project still after 2012, draft Aaron Murray or another young QB in 2013.
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Moot, Pryor is going to Stud Out.
July 19th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
Alright, Thec.
I’ll play along …
1st rounder next year will be the CB on the board with the fastest 40 time, in honor of Al Davis
Spencer & Bartell are both on 1-year deals.
July 19th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
Saw a program on the NFL Network recently which really concerned me about CP.
Pretty good segment actually. They’ve got Marvin Lewis wired for sound as well as the OC with a camera inside the OC’s booth.
A play call is made where CP is supposed to hit either the TE or a back that releases after a very short delay and goes upfield about 10 yards a little outside of the right hash.
Problem is, the intended receiver(who would have been wide open) either trips or stumbles and Palmer has to look elsewhere.
He throws a balloon into double coverage in the end zone which is picked off.
Terrible decision bcz the Bungles were in FG position.
Lewis asks the OC what happened ? OC explains that the intended rcvr got tripped up, Palmer saw it and went elsewhere.
The OC correctly states the play was there. It WAS a good call. He laments the rcvr tripping.
What interested and surprised me was that there wasn’t an ounce of criticism from either the OC or Lewis for Palmer not throwing the ball away rather than throwing the pick.
I sure hope our staff holds Palmer more accountable.
July 19th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
guest123 Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
I’d hate to see Benson get ahold of some MD 20/20’s lol
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perro loco veinte veinte!!! aaaaaaahhh uuuuuu!!!
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Ahh the good ole days..cuttin out of high school, grabbin some MD’s and downing those bad boys instead of learning algebra.lol
July 19th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
That actually may have been the most positive article PFT has ever written concerning us.
July 19th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
Thec Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 11:58 am
If Pryor looks like a project still after 2012, draft Aaron Murray or another young QB in 2013.
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Moot, Pryor is going to Stud Out.
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So what do we do with Pryor then? Convert him to WR?
July 19th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
Marvin Lewis=enough said
July 19th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
Running back Darren McFadden has recovered fully from last year’s season-ending Lisfranc sprain and returns as the straw that will stir Oakland’s offensive drink. New playcaller Greg Knapp — who also coordinated the team’s offense in 2007 and 2008 — is installing a zone-blocking scheme up front while bringing a decidedly run-first philosophy to The Black Hole. He’ll lean heavily on McFadden as an offensive centerpiece.
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Thinking about it, a Run Heavy offense around DMAC…….sounds risky. Maybe we do need more RB depth.
July 19th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
Thec Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
Im a Matt Barkley believer..
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I am an SC apologist, I have seen this guy live up close and in person. In my opinion, nothing I have seen suggest his game will translate to the NFL.
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Yea, IDK why. I just think he will be a good one..
July 19th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
16 INT’s in 2012 wouldn’t be horrible imo – I mean, thats how many he threw last season in just 9.5 games !!
he’s a gunslinger fellas, not a game manager
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I’d take a gunslinger any day. It’s a personal preferance of course but, I always enjoyed watching Farve play. Huge Balls on that guy too. I know from experience “Marine Corps” that I felt invincible with a leader that had huge balls. If the leader is tentative, 2nd guessing and doesn’t “GO for it” then it makes the members of their team respond in the same manner. Confidence is more shaky……… Live by the sword and die by the sword. I’d rather Die “Going For it” rather than saying “MAN, Why DIDN’T you go for it?”
July 19th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
So what do we do with Pryor then? Convert him to WR?
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No…He is a Qb and will become a stud QB.
July 19th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
someone please tell me the benson story to lazy to google it
July 19th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
Running back Darren McFadden has recovered fully from last year’s season-ending Lisfranc sprain and returns as the straw that will stir Oakland’s offensive drink. New playcaller Greg Knapp — who also coordinated the team’s offense in 2007 and 2008 — is installing a zone-blocking scheme up front while bringing a decidedly run-first philosophy to The Black Hole. He’ll lean heavily on McFadden as an offensive centerpiece.
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Thinking about it, a Run Heavy offense around DMAC…….sounds risky. Maybe we do need more RB depth.
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Knapp stated that he will have a RB rotation, hopefully DMAC will be phased in more and more as the season progresses, if we can manage late in games with Goodson or Jones.
July 19th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
629. No kidding. We need like 6 backs..
July 19th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
So what do we do with Pryor then? Convert him to WR?
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No clue man……I just know he makes things happen. Seems like a waste of talent and potential to keep him on the bench unless they’re DEAD set on making him the next QB. His preseason will determine whether he’s throwing the ball or catching it but, I think Terrell makes it on the field in one way or another.
July 19th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
David Lee, Andrew Bynum’s agent, said he was baffled by the recent Yahoo! report that listed Cleveland as a potential destination..
July 19th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
That sounds like a pretty stupid article.. Saying a midseason trade backfired? Kinda premature there no? And blaming the trade instead of the loss of dmac?
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@Marks Hair
good point, but not just McFadden either:
DHB & Boss missed Week 9
Moore missed Weeks 12-14
Ford missed Weeks 11-16
TJones missed Weeks 12-16
poor Carson !!
July 19th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
theghostronin79 Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
16 INT’s in 2012 wouldn’t be horrible imo – I mean, thats how many he threw last season in just 9.5 games !!
he’s a gunslinger fellas, not a game manager
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I’d take a gunslinger any day. It’s a personal preferance of course but, I always enjoyed watching Farve play. Huge Balls on that guy too. I know from experience “Marine Corps” that I felt invincible with a leader that had huge balls. If the leader is tentative, 2nd guessing and doesn’t “GO for it” then it makes the members of their team respond in the same manner. Confidence is more shaky……… Live by the sword and die by the sword. I’d rather Die “Going For it” rather than saying “MAN, Why DIDN’T you go for it?”
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Totally agree bro, no looking back and no conservative stuff at the end of games. If the discipline sets in and penalties drop, the league better watch out for the Raiders.
July 19th, 2012 at 12:25 pm
I worry about the the lisfranc injury, even though it’s fully healed and he’s good to go. Is there any medical evidence that since it happened, structurally it won’t reoccur down the line? Not so much a question of is DMAC healthy, but is he going to hold up over an entire season of pounding? Is a higher risk for a future lisfranc?
July 19th, 2012 at 12:25 pm
491.DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 10:42 am
Dakota, there’s no way you take Bynum over this:
-Get rid of J Rich, Duhon, Glen Davis & Q Rich’s contracts
-Kevin Martin 12 mil expiring contract
-Jeremy Lamb
-Devin Ebanks
-Chandler Parsons (underrated Orlando native)
-Terrence Jones
-Steve Blake
-TOR lottery pick
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Lunch break, so just getting back….
Yeah, I would take Andrew Bynum over that package every day of the week…but then again, I have seen what a great center can do for a team….Orlando just sends their’s to us…..
Even lottery picks are a 50-50 gamble if you are lucky, and cap space doesn’t do you much good in this day and age (ask Dallas) as players are enticed into staying with their team.
24 year old center with tons of potential is way better than that package.
July 19th, 2012 at 12:25 pm
“Your comment is awaiting moderation” what the heck never seen that b4
July 19th, 2012 at 12:25 pm
Young receivers Denarius Moore, 23, Darrius Heyward-Bey, 25, and Jacoby Ford, 25, surround Palmer as explosive, big-play threats. 22-year-old rookie Juron Criner gives Oakland more of a physical possession target fitting Knapp’s West Coast-based scheme. With Moore flashing No. 1-caliber receiver tools and Heyward-Bey turning the corner after two miserable seasons to begin his career, the Raiders may quietly boast a top-ten NFL receiver corps.
July 19th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
631. I agree. Thats what I thought was missing in soups game. That and the ability to throw the fking ball inbounds..
July 19th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
David Lee, Andrew Bynum’s agent, said he was baffled by the recent Yahoo! report that listed Cleveland as a potential destination..
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I’m baffled by just about everything I read on Yahoo.lol
July 19th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
Dakota Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 12:25 pm
491.DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 10:42 am
Dakota, there’s no way you take Bynum over this:
-Get rid of J Rich, Duhon, Glen Davis & Q Rich’s contracts
-Kevin Martin 12 mil expiring contract
-Jeremy Lamb
-Devin Ebanks
-Chandler Parsons (underrated Orlando native)
-Terrence Jones
-Steve Blake
-TOR lottery pick
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Lunch break, so just getting back….
Yeah, I would take Andrew Bynum over that package every day of the week…but then again, I have seen what a great center can do for a team….Orlando just sends their’s to us…..
Even lottery picks are a 50-50 gamble if you are lucky, and cap space doesn’t do you much good in this day and age (ask Dallas) as players are enticed into staying with their team.
24 year old center with tons of potential is way better than that package.
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Potential?
Hmm.. You have to take the other side with that too.
Bynum’s knee’s are 85% plastic at this point.
Cap space is huge bro.
And I dont get the Dallas comment??
July 19th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
Thinking about it, a Run Heavy offense around DMAC…….sounds risky. Maybe we do need more RB depth.
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@Kell
Knapp says we have “depth at RB”
perhaps Reece gets more carries in Bush’s absence?
July 19th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
d.moore is a great receiver but i dunno does anyone else get the feeling hes a 1 trick pony cant remember him doing much but the deep ball which is fine i think dhb should be in the slot he a good yac guy
July 19th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
x ford y moore z dhb
July 19th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
637.lol if someone told you that you had to go to cleveland you’d be baffled too..
July 19th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
mcskinnnylegs Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
d.moore is a great receiver but i dunno does anyone else get the feeling hes a 1 trick pony cant remember him doing much but the deep ball which is fine i think dhb should be in the slot he a good yac guy
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Nah, we need a posession WR type in the slot.
July 19th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
mcskinnnylegs Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
someone please tell me the benson story to lazy to google it
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I think Benson and his ex-roommate had a lover’s quarrel after drinking WAY too much Sutter Home wine. However it played out, the other dude ended up looking like a Mac truck hit him.lol
July 19th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
Weaknesses.
Knapp’s West Coast offense historically gets quarterbacks on the move on rollouts and bootlegs. It could be a tough schematic fit for Palmer, who has lost all semblance of mobility nearing age 33. Palmer can still power the football downfield, but it may not end well if the Raiders ask him to fit their scheme, as opposed to adjusting their offense to fit the quarterback.
Knapp is also implementing system change on the offensive line. While his zone-run scheme has a successful track record, projected starting right tackle Khalif Barnes and left guard Cooper Carlisle are potential liabilities. Carlisle will be 35 when the season starts, and is no longer playing at a high level. As a right tackle, Barnes plays a crucial position for a run-first team. And he has never been an effective blocker.
The Raiders will rely on castoff veteran cornerbacks in Ronald Bartell and Shawntae Spencer, who were each released by their former teams this offseason. Bartell has been a strong starter when healthy, but missed all but one game last season with a fractured neck. Spencer has never been very good.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/13/preseason-power-rankings-no-23-oakland-raiders/
July 19th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
Marks hair Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
637.lol if someone told you that you had to go to cleveland you’d be baffled too..
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Possibly lol..
July 19th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
@DAV
I heard that stupid looking goofball clown from the Cavs Andy Verejao (sp?) would be headed to Orlando, if a 3-team trade goes down with the Lakers, Cavs & Magic.
you good with that ??
July 19th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
Germany is cloning bynum new knees on the back of a poor servant boy. He’ll be flying high on his new knees just like kobe!
July 19th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
Marks hair Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
637.lol if someone told you that you had to go to cleveland you’d be baffled too..
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How dare you! Cleveland was the first ever city with electronic stop-lights!lmao
July 19th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
653 thanx 652 i agree i think criner will grow into that role but i think dhb could handle that role 4 the start i dunno i might be crazy
July 19th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
@DAV
I heard that stupid looking goofball clown from the Cavs Andy Verejao (sp?) would be headed to Orlando, if a 3-team trade goes down with the Lakers, Cavs & Magic.
you good with that ??
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No.
Thats why Houston is the best scenario.
Between the Cavs & Lakers, the picks we would get arent gonna be good. Hardly any cap relief either.
Its either HOU & ORL or HOU, LAL & ORL
July 19th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
Taiwan Jones is going to make Goodson a non-factor.
Goody will be pulling bench splinters out of his backside because the Taimonster is going to explode.
If we have another MUP contest this year, Taiwan is my pick.
If given the chance, he’ll also end JFB’s moaning about the Raids having no punt return game.
July 19th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
d.moore is a great receiver but i dunno does anyone else get the feeling hes a 1 trick pony cant remember him doing much but the deep ball which is fine i think dhb should be in the slot he a good yac guy
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He did have that fantastic Reverse where he threaded through defenders and had a great leap, stretching the ball across the goaline. He’s got good vision, and body awareness, as well as speed. We’ll see more this year, I’m sure.
July 19th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
I think Benson and his ex-roommate had a lover’s quarrel after drinking WAY too much Sutter Home wine. However it played out, the other dude ended up looking like a Mac truck hit him.lol
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Reason 198 for not signing Cedric Benson. Not EVER having this type of conversation in this blog.
July 19th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
Chargers to release Luis Castillo, again.
July 19th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
Bynums always said a citys a city.. & that he just wants to play..
July 19th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
yes hes good at the reverses to but mostly a deep ball stud ala randy well u know who dont wanna say his name around here
July 19th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
Chargers to release Luis Castillo, again.
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I hate all chargers…CFL or defunct ufl
July 19th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
I’m down wiht Taiwan as MUP of the offense. He’s got all the size and skill of Chris Johnson TEN. He could be just as great if given the chance. So many are writing him off as only COP potential.
July 19th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
Potential?
Hmm.. You have to take the other side with that too.
Bynum’s knee’s are 85% plastic at this point.
Cap space is huge bro.
And I dont get the Dallas comment??
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Bynum’s knees are the ONLY reason I am okay with swapping out Bynum for Dwight, so I hear ya lol.
Cap space will do Orlando very little good. No superstar free agent is going to sign with them. They will just over-pay some want-to-be superstars and then be a middling team hoping to make the playoffs. Thats what cap space will bring Orlando.
Dallas gutted their roster to sign a big name free agent this offseason….and it landed them Elton Brand and a couple of scraps….even though they have great ownership and another superstar to play with in Dirk…Orlando has neither of those things, so I wouldn’t hold my breath that some superstar is going to give up $20 million to come play for Orlando.
July 19th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
guest123 Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
I think Benson and his ex-roommate had a lover’s quarrel after drinking WAY too much Sutter Home wine. However it played out, the other dude ended up looking like a Mac truck hit him.lol
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Reason 198 for not signing Cedric Benson. Not EVER having this type of conversation in this blog.
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f that reason # 1 is dude drinks sutter home wine what a panzy
July 19th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
if someone told you that you had to go to cleveland you’d be baffled too..
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the Cavs have 1 Division title and 0 Conference titles without LeBron James … since 1970
zero Championships ever
that Division title came in 1976, lol
July 19th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
Taiwan Jones is going to make Goodson a non-factor.
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Some have forgotten about this youngster.
He will maximize his opp, i expect big things from him.
July 19th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
Dakota Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
Potential?
Hmm.. You have to take the other side with that too.
Bynum’s knee’s are 85% plastic at this point.
Cap space is huge bro.
And I dont get the Dallas comment??
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Bynum’s knees are the ONLY reason I am okay with swapping out Bynum for Dwight, so I hear ya lol.
Cap space will do Orlando very little good. No superstar free agent is going to sign with them. They will just over-pay some want-to-be superstars and then be a middling team hoping to make the playoffs. Thats what cap space will bring Orlando.
Dallas gutted their roster to sign a big name free agent this offseason….and it landed them Elton Brand and a couple of scraps….even though they have great ownership and another superstar to play with in Dirk…Orlando has neither of those things, so I wouldn’t hold my breath that some superstar is going to give up $20 million to come play for Orlando.
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Dallas gutted their team for NEXT off-season.
They got better in the mean time.
Collison, OJ Mayo, Kaman & Brand are an upgrade.
And you have no way of saying Orlando wont get any FAs. No history to go off either.
July 19th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
dilante nailed lebrons mamma ha ima tweet him that just to remind him
July 19th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
taiwan is 145 lbs and dislexic doubt hes gonna be a good back
July 19th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
yeah, D.Mo gets Massive amounts of sepparation. We need a legitimate Deep threat anyway. DHB has a role getting physical YAC, and I think Criner will emerge as our Chain Mover, Red Zone Target, and have the most receptions at the end of the year. I didn’t mention Ford but, he’s got ability to do everything vertical. Wouldn’t call him a possession guy though. Gets hurt a bunch too.
July 19th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
Prospects.
On paper, at least, the Raiders don’t at all resemble a truly bad team. They have a game-breaking running back and two-time Pro Bowl quarterback. The receiver corps is very promising. Oakland’s offense should not struggle to score points.
There is talent throughout the defense, particularly in the front four. While the Raiders are a bit makeshift in the back seven, strong line play can make the rest of the defense look better.
The Raiders are still a team in major transition with big question marks on both sides of the football. While there is some potential for Oakland to contend in the wide-open AFC West, we ultimately couldn’t feel comfortable ranking them any higher than 23rd.
July 19th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
Cleveland does have the Rock & Roll HOF!
July 19th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
can see it now cp calls a toss left there goes taiwan to the right and a fumble lol
July 19th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
sorry gents. I’ve been out of the game for a while
what is sutter home wine ??
is that like zima or odouls?
July 19th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
what is sutter home wine ??
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Found at 7-11 next to the Camo Ice, and Steel Reserve 211.
July 19th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
yea ghost i think we should start season with ford and moore on outside with dhb in the middle ima try that on madden lol.
July 19th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
Delonte West, Randy Foye, Willie Green and Marco Belinelli are possible additions for the Bulls, a source tells CSN Chicago.
All four players are unrestricted free agents. We’ve heard that Belinelli is on the Bulls’ radar, but the other three are all new names. Chicago is known to be in the market for another wing, and these guys would represent potential bargains if the team can’t land someone like Courtney Lee.
Jul. 19 – 8:42 am et
Source: CSN Chicago
July 19th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
ghost lmao
July 19th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
Found at 7-11 next to the Camo Ice, and Steel Reserve 211.
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still lost, 79.
thanks for trying
haha
July 19th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
Delonte West, Randy Foye, Willie Green and Marco Belinelli are possible additions for the Bulls, a source tells CSN Chicago.
All four players are unrestricted free agents. We’ve heard that Belinelli is on the Bulls’ radar, but the other three are all new names. Chicago is known to be in the market for another wing, and these guys would represent potential bargains if the team can’t land someone like Courtney Lee.
Jul. 19 – 8:42 am et
Source: CSN Chicago
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I like Bellineli’s game.
July 19th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
theghostronin79 Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
what is sutter home wine ??
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Found at 7-11 next to the Camo Ice, and Steel Reserve 211.
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Hilarious, yet oh so true.lol
July 19th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
i think the bulls are like the raiders its a better league when there good
July 19th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
man soooo many memories of 23 puttin it down remember the finger wag that was awesome
July 19th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
RR
If Sutter Home were a beer, it’d be the beer you see the bums with outside the gas station.
July 19th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
wtf u guys are a trip!
July 19th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
Found at 7-11 next to the Camo Ice, and Steel Reserve 211.
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still lost, 79.
thanks for trying
haha
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LOL….Yeah, it’s top shelf Bro. Sitting in the cooler next to all those High Gravity, $1.29 tall cans that all taste like different flavors of PISS….
July 19th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
Kind of wierd that the Raids have 6 million in cap space. Under Al they seemed to be over the line and then got restructures to make it under.
I wonder if they will let it roll into next season and use it for some marqee Free Agents then.
They don’t need all that space for Benson.
July 19th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
@ mcskinnny
Gloria James is only 43.
you’d probably make a run at her too!
July 19th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
seriously id go for the arbor mist b4 id hit the sutter home lol
July 19th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
Im starting to think the laker magic deal wont happen. Most trades just happen.. And this has been a long lame fu(k around..
July 19th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
@ mcskinnny
Gloria James is only 43.
you’d probably make a run at her too!
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umm what?
July 19th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
651.DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
mcskinnnylegs Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
d.moore is a great receiver but i dunno does anyone else get the feeling hes a 1 trick pony cant remember him doing much but the deep ball which is fine i think dhb should be in the slot he a good yac guy
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Nah, we need a posession WR type in the slot.
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Isn’t DHB a possession receiver now? Plus he is a pretty good blocker? Good for the Slot?
July 19th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
oooo lebrons mama
July 19th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
Hilarious, yet oh so true.lol
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I know you’ve seen it.
July 19th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
mcskinnnylegs Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
seriously id go for the arbor mist b4 id hit the sutter home lol
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All this cheap booz talk’s gonna make me grab a 4locos after work! boooyahh
July 19th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
If Sutter Home were a beer, it’d be the beer you see the bums with outside the gas station.
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@Tx
Natural light ??
July 19th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
651.DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
mcskinnnylegs Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
d.moore is a great receiver but i dunno does anyone else get the feeling hes a 1 trick pony cant remember him doing much but the deep ball which is fine i think dhb should be in the slot he a good yac guy
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Nah, we need a posession WR type in the slot.
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Isn’t DHB a possession receiver now? Plus he is a pretty good blocker? Good for the Slot?
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Think Wes Welker.
July 19th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
hell yea i have no morals
July 19th, 2012 at 12:53 pm
687. Yes exactly! Except Nobody gives a shlt about the bulls.
July 19th, 2012 at 12:53 pm
four loko is fn gross
July 19th, 2012 at 12:53 pm
theghostronin79 Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
Hilarious, yet oh so true.lol
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I know you’ve seen it.
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Yeah man, during hard times that cheap schit tends to be the “featured” beverage of some local stores here.lol
July 19th, 2012 at 12:53 pm
All this cheap booz talk’s gonna make me grab a 4locos after work! boooyahh
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Then watch some Epic Mealtime on Youtube.
July 19th, 2012 at 12:53 pm
mcskinnnylegs Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
can see it now cp calls a toss left there goes taiwan to the right and a fumble lol
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Doubt it…
Your toss on at 6:50
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-_mxXyoTNs
He actually fits in really good with Knapps scheme
July 19th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
Marks hair Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
Im starting to think the laker magic deal wont happen. Most trades just happen.. And this has been a long lame fu(k around..
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It wont happen straight up. Gonna be 3 team.
Hennigan isnt to high on Bynum.
Wants to shed salary & get picks with young talent.
Basically be a young exciting team that gets into the lottery.
Whats the point of just getting Bynum anyway? Not gonna get you to the Finals anyway. Might as well re-build right..
July 19th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
So whats gonna happen with all the Cap space? A Free Agent this season or next?
July 19th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
i really dont either i was just reminising about the bulls of old they were really good too bad my tEAM BACK THEN WAS THE SUPERSONICS. who feels old now
July 19th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
@Thec
nice footage of TJones!
still reminds me of Dexter McCluster in KC…
July 19th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
raidertalk Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
So whats gonna happen with all the Cap space? A Free Agent this season or next?
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We dont need to spend the money if its not necessary.
Thats the reason California is in the money crisis its in.. lol
July 19th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
theghostronin79 Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 12:53 pm
All this cheap booz talk’s gonna make me grab a 4locos after work! boooyahh
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Then watch some Epic Mealtime on Youtube.
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LOL, Nah I’ve only tasted a sip of a 4loko and it is schit. However, I will be drinking my fair share of Miller here in a few hours.
July 19th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
thec really preseason tape with 4th stringers lmao
July 19th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
709. Oh yeah. If it happens it’ll be 3 teams. Im just saying its taking forever..
July 19th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
how is miller high life its like the 1 beer i havent ried
July 19th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
Rue the Day! Taiwan haters Rue the day!
July 19th, 2012 at 12:59 pm
who remembers taiwan in the reg season ooooo thats right i cant either
July 19th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
t.jones another A.D pick
July 19th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
thec really preseason tape with 4th stringers lmao
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@ mcskinnny
hey man, thats how Derek Hagan became a household name !!
July 19th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
mcskinnnylegs Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
how is miller high life its like the 1 beer i havent ried
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Haven’t had it since high school man, I normally go with the good ole Miller Lite
July 19th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
im not hating im just saying i dont think hell be a great back like everyone here is expecting
July 19th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
I like red stripe beer mon!
July 19th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
Marks hair Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
I like red stripe beer mon!
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Hooray!
July 19th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
RR lmao dont even start that in here again remember when he got cut the world was ending in here
July 19th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
BLUE MOON is the best beer on this planet if you havent had you must try
July 19th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
who remembers taiwan in the reg season ooooo thats right i cant either
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16 carries for 73 yards. 2 catches for 25 yards
missed the last 6 games due to injury
July 19th, 2012 at 1:03 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-_mxXyoTNs
Tosses at 1:30 and 2:30 against NO’s 1’s
Wonder what vilma thinks as he had to hold on for dear life???
July 19th, 2012 at 1:03 pm
but im more of a full flavor guy but i hate black beers like guiness
July 19th, 2012 at 1:03 pm
dont even start that in here again remember when he got cut the world was ending in here
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Hagan > Housh. Fire Hue !!
July 19th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
mcskinnnylegs Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
BLUE MOON is the best beer on this planet if you havent had you must try
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Blue Moon Agave blonde ale >
July 19th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
raidertalk Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
So whats gonna happen with all the Cap space? A Free Agent this season or next?
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We dont need to spend the money if its not necessary.
Thats the reason California is in the money crisis its in.. lol
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Yeah,
I think FA season is pretty much over this season, no need to spend on nothing. I guess they are just waiting for next year to make some more moves
There are some holes to fill right now though
July 19th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
July 19th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
who remembers taiwan in the reg season ooooo thats right i cant either
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16 carries for 73 yards. 2 catches for 25 yards
missed the last 6 games due to injury
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nuff said lmao the footage of him jumping out of the pool is pretty impresive though u guys can hang ur hats on that
July 19th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
mcskinnnylegs Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
thec really preseason tape with 4th stringers lmao
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3rd and 4th qtr was against lesser talent agreed however, 12st and 2nd qtr was against No’s 1’s….
July 19th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
” I’ll have a scotch & water, minus the scotch !! ”
-The Waterboy
errr i mean, RRS
July 19th, 2012 at 1:06 pm
733 not sure i understand what u mean
July 19th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
yea thec im not bashing i like the guy im just sayin that was a preseason game no matter how u look at it
July 19th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
733 u recomendind a beer im confused
July 19th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
mcskinnnylegs Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
July 19th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
who remembers taiwan in the reg season ooooo thats right i cant either
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16 carries for 73 yards. 2 catches for 25 yards
missed the last 6 games due to injury
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nuff said lmao the footage of him jumping out of the pool is pretty impresive though u guys can hang ur hats on that
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Or the youtube vid where he jumps up on a dumpster, hope he leaps defenders like that..
July 19th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
post the link tx
July 19th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
mcskinnnylegs Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
733 u recomendind a beer im confused
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Do you mean 732?..
July 19th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
Carson Palmer started 9 games off the couch last season.
McFadden missed all 9, Jones missed 5, Ford missed 6, Moore missed 3.
DHB & Boss missed his first start (against Denver) when we got Tebow’d
July 19th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
mcskinnnylegs Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
BLUE MOON is the best beer on this planet if you havent had you must try
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Blue Moon Agave blonde ale >
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its sayin 733 on mine but yea what were u saying
July 19th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxhTa9FhGnA
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Dude has hops
July 19th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
mcskinnnylegs Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
BLUE MOON is the best beer on this planet if you havent had you must try
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Not sure how you found this out. You must have been board with the usual, and said to yourself, hey mcskin, try the blue moon….
You are correct, best beer by far.
July 19th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
yea wtf is up with all the injuries
July 19th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
mcskinnnylegs Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 1:06 pm
733 not sure i understand what u mean
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I’m just trying to guess what the raiders are gonna do with extra cap-space we got now. I think its 6.5 million. I don’t think all that will go to a Benson-type player.
Wondering if they will let the cap space roll into next year, then wrap up some FAs then
July 19th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
o man thec and its one of the few beers that are even better on tap
July 19th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
thats fn weird our post # are all fd up
July 19th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
Thec Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
mcskinnnylegs Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
BLUE MOON is the best beer on this planet if you havent had you must try
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Not sure how you found this out. You must have been board with the usual, and said to yourself, hey mcskin, try the blue moon….
You are correct, best beer by far.
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Blue Moon is a great beer that men and women can enjoy together(with a slice of orange preferred). I never mind paying good money for a good product.
July 19th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
mcskinnnylegs Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
o man thec and its one of the few beers that are even better on tap
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Truth…
I went to the yardhouse.. 150 bears on tap, tried it hooked…
July 19th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
actually my bro is an active duty travels the world alot and recomended it to me
July 19th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
mcskinnnylegs Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
mcskinnnylegs Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
BLUE MOON is the best beer on this planet if you havent had you must try
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Blue Moon Agave blonde ale >
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its sayin 733 on mine but yea what were u saying
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Yea. The Blue Moon “Agave Blonde Ale”, is really good.
July 19th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
i know now my booze habit is even more expesive than it used to be lol thanks bro
July 19th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
Blue Moon is a great beer that men and women can enjoy together(with a slice of orange preferred). I never mind paying good money for a good product.
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The Semi’s know a lot of shat, including the best beer.
July 19th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
Yea. The Blue Moon “Agave Blonde Ale”, is really good.
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Thanks DAV, I’ll be buying some for the weekend!
July 19th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
agave blond ale is that the type of beer b/c i would like to try others had dogfish or whatever its called wasnt to immpressed
July 19th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
mcskinnnylegs Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
agave blond ale is that the type of beer b/c i would like to try others had dogfish or whatever its called wasnt to immpressed
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Yea its a seasonal flavor that Blue Moon makes..
July 19th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
TxRaider210 Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
Yea. The Blue Moon “Agave Blonde Ale”, is really good.
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Thanks DAV, I’ll be buying some for the weekend!
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Enjoy, responsibly of course
July 19th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
true story the c my old lady hates beer but the only one she will drink is a blue moon
July 19th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
Thec Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
Blue Moon is a great beer that men and women can enjoy together(with a slice of orange preferred). I never mind paying good money for a good product.
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The Semi’s know a lot of shat, including the best beer.
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If you find a beer that the ladies will drink just as much as the guys, better stock up.lol
July 19th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
dav it must be the spring bc i tried that and it was great the fall one sucks though its really dark
July 19th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
Yea its a seasonal flavor that Blue Moon makes..
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Truth
You sound like an addict describing a fine wine…lol.
July 19th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
Looks like Jacque Vaughn will be the next Magic coach.
July 19th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
im gettn thirsty now
July 19th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
mcskinnnylegs Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
true story the c my old lady hates beer but the only one she will drink is a blue moon
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Let me know if you catch a NATION game Bruh, 12 pac on me.
July 19th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
mcskinnnylegs Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
dav it must be the spring bc i tried that and it was great the fall one sucks though its really dark
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Yea I dont like the Dark one..
The Blonde is a light beer.
July 19th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
who has another out of the ordinary beer thats really good
July 19th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
TxRaider210 Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
Yea. The Blue Moon “Agave Blonde Ale”, is really good.
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Thanks DAV, I’ll be buying some for the weekend!
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Enjoy, responsibly of course
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I like a few Shiner and Sam Adams brews, but the Sam Adams IPA is some pretty good schit.
July 19th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
mcskinnnylegs Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
im gettn thirsty now
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Normally dont drink during the week however, a six may be in order right about now…
July 19th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
Tyvon Branch’s contract break down cap #s:
2.4 – 2012
10.9 – 2013
5.4 – 2014
7.9 – 2015
July 19th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
o n btw the orange is for the ladies
July 19th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
thec attaboy lol
July 19th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
11 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxhTa9FhGnA
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Dude has hops
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DANG ! ! !
July 19th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
with 250k for each Pro Bowl..
July 19th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
i live in new england and for some reson just cant get on board with em everyone loves them out here
July 19th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
Remember when Ronnie Lott used to talk about ‘woo’ hits ?
Well, Taiwan Jones can make ‘woo’ runs.
I don’t give a fk if he made the runs against 3’s in the pre-season or lesser talents in college.
Spotting outstanding ability at the RB position is one of the easiest things to do. You can just tell when a guy has ‘it’. Taiwan has off the charts explosiveness.
Besides learning how to block, the RB position is perhaps the easiest transition to make from college to the NFL – provided you’ve got fantastic natural running ability.
In my mind there’s only one question about Taiwan – durability.
If he can stay on the field, he’s going to be a star.
July 19th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
mcskinnnylegs Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
who has another out of the ordinary beer thats really good
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Stella Artois and Shiner Hefeweizen(almost just like blue moon) are pretty good ones also.
July 19th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
police aint catching taiwan
July 19th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
I’m back. lol
July 19th, 2012 at 1:25 pm
first time i tried stella was at fenway park its was pretty good though
July 19th, 2012 at 1:25 pm
My afternoon banning is over. Promise not to mention Rodman again. oops
July 19th, 2012 at 1:25 pm
true story the c my old lady hates beer but the only one she will drink is a blue moon
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If the old lady like Blue Moon, she will surely enjoy Shock-Top or Shiner Hefeweizen, as they’re very similar tasting.
July 19th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
tx just googled the other beer in never seen them b4
July 19th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
i live in new england and for some reson just cant get on board with em everyone loves them out here
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“Tuck-Rule” game made a permanent enemy out of me. I know you shouldn’t hold a grudge but….Any time I see the Pats on TV, I’m like “F” those Piece’s “O” Shizzzt.
July 19th, 2012 at 1:28 pm
thanks man i will def try them asap i had wisdom teeth removed so i have to wait to booze bc antibiotics
July 19th, 2012 at 1:28 pm
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/former-nba-star-dennis-rodman-083359719–nba.html
July 19th, 2012 at 1:28 pm
Tyvon Branch is only the 4th highes paid Safety….in the AFC WEST.
July 19th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
ghost lol i was talking about sam adams its a local beer made in ma but yes the pats are extremly gay and i cant stand tom brady and his gay haircut
July 19th, 2012 at 1:30 pm
mcskinnnylegs Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 1:28 pm
thanks man i will def try them asap i had wisdom teeth removed so i have to wait to booze bc antibiotics
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Yeah man that’s a no no, let those meds work and don’t smoke or use a straw to avoid dry socket.
July 19th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
theghostronin79 Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
i live in new england and for some reson just cant get on board with em everyone loves them out here
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“Tuck-Rule” game made a permanent enemy out of me. I know you shouldn’t hold a grudge but….Any time I see the Pats on TV, I’m like “F” those Piece’s “O” Shizzzt.
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One of the worst calls, if not the worst, since I’ve been watching football. Couldn’t have been a more critical time either.
July 19th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
If you read the story, Dennis is one of 29 children by 16 mothers his dad fathered.
July 19th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
Tyvon Branch’s contract break down cap #s:
2.4 – 2012
10.9 – 2013
5.4 – 2014
7.9 – 2015
with 250k for each Pro Bowl..
Tyvon Branch is only the 4th highes paid Safety….in the AFC WEST.
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thanks for the updates, DAV
2013 looks like the only “out of whack” number
but i’m sure he would restructure next offseason if Reggie asked him to, converting most of that pay into a “bonus”
July 19th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
tx thanks man the pain meds have me typing 100 wpm
July 19th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
ghost lol i was talking about sam adams its a local beer made in ma but yes the pats are extremly gay and i cant stand tom brady and his gay haircut
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Ooops…Guess it doens’t make sense to bring up the Pats when everyone Talkin about BOOZE…..LOL
July 19th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 11:58 am
The Reggie likes finding his gem LB’s later in the rounds, because he feels he can scout them better.
LB will be addressed, just not in the first round.
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Spot on.
Except for Matthews.. But they probably didnt envision him dropping all the way to 26th pick..
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
They drafted AJ Hawk (Go Buckeyes) and Mathews in the 1st round.
July 19th, 2012 at 1:35 pm
yea what most people dont understand about that tuck rule yea the ball was going forward but the ball cleary came past his shoulder and down toward his stomach bc he wasnt going to throw therefore it should have been a fumble they need to look at that rule
July 19th, 2012 at 1:35 pm
“Tuck-Rule” game made a permanent enemy out of me. I know you shouldn’t hold a grudge but….Any time I see the Pats on TV, I’m like “F” those Piece’s “O” Shizzzt.
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One of the worst calls, if not the worst, since I’ve been watching football. Couldn’t have been a more critical time either.
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Stuff like that will stick with you, and create a life long Vendetta. I carry such HATRED for them. For a good year after that game, folks new not to even say the name Brady around me.
July 19th, 2012 at 1:36 pm
mcskinnnylegs Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
tx thanks man the pain meds have me typing 100 wpm
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Yeah man they had to cut my wisdom teeth in half to get them out. I was doped up on laughing gas, watching March of the penguins when it happened.lol
July 19th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
bro try living in new england where im always wearing raider gear i swear i wanna just punch some people out over it when they talk ish but those days are behind me
July 19th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
theghostronin79 Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 1:35 pm
“Tuck-Rule” game made a permanent enemy out of me. I know you shouldn’t hold a grudge but….Any time I see the Pats on TV, I’m like “F” those Piece’s “O” Shizzzt.
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One of the worst calls, if not the worst, since I’ve been watching football. Couldn’t have been a more critical time either.
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Stuff like that will stick with you, and create a life long Vendetta. I carry such HATRED for them. For a good year after that game, folks new not to even say the name Brady around me.
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Yeah no kidding man, people call them the Cheatiots for a good reason. Maybe those days are over with the make-shift officials now..
July 19th, 2012 at 1:39 pm
lol 1 of mine had to get cut but i didnt go to an oral surgeon so i couldnt get the gas bc he was only a dentist just local anesthetics
July 19th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
mcskinnnylegs Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
bro try living in new england where im always wearing raider gear i swear i wanna just punch some people out over it when they talk ish but those days are behind me
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LOL They’re everywhere man..these Boston guys on a softball team were being obnoxious during last years game with Oak, so I promptly told them to STFU!
July 19th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
yup yup it gets very annoying whatever dude tom brady aint gonna last ever and bb has lost his marbles
July 19th, 2012 at 1:43 pm
798.mcskinnnylegs Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 1:35 pm
yea what most people dont understand about that tuck rule yea the ball was going forward but the ball cleary came past his shoulder and down toward his stomach bc he wasnt going to throw therefore it should have been a fumble they need to look at that rule
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That same thing happened to Kurt Warner against Pittsburgh in the SB when AZ was trying to come back in the waning secs.
It was ruled a fumble. Game over.
July 19th, 2012 at 1:43 pm
whatever they put in my mouth tastes like ish!
July 19th, 2012 at 1:43 pm
July 19th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
bro try living in new england where im always wearing raider gear i swear i wanna just punch some people out over it when they talk ish but those days are behind me
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I hear ya man. It’s True that you’re part of the Nation, or you’re a hater. We got no team here in Oregon. It’s a hodgepodge of fans of all teams. I’m constantly getting Shyyt talked by other folks. That’s why I love flying into Oakland to visit my Dad. I’m surrounded by Silver and Black and Nation Brethren. Drive past the Coloseum on the way to his house……Feels like I’m home.
July 19th, 2012 at 1:43 pm
808 i remember i said the same thing when it happened
July 19th, 2012 at 1:43 pm
mcskinnnylegs Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
yup yup it gets very annoying whatever dude tom brady aint gonna last ever and bb has lost his marbles
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Yeah man you can look at BB and tell he’s a snake, and I think you’re right about Brady being like 37 yrs old..
July 19th, 2012 at 1:44 pm
mcskinnnylegs Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 1:39 pm
lol 1 of mine had to get cut but i didnt go to an oral surgeon so i couldnt get the gas bc he was only a dentist just local anesthetics
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I had all 4 taken out at once, knocked out.
July 19th, 2012 at 1:44 pm
thats awesome one day i will be at the colisium
July 19th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
yea i had all 4 taken out to but no gas or iv
July 19th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
704.Marks hair Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 12:53 pm
687. Yes exactly! Except Nobody gives a shlt about the bulls.
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I do. But i’m in Chi.
Bulls have nothing on their roster for next yr. Just biding time until Rose gets back so they can lose to Miami in the conf. finals.
July 19th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
Nice blogging with you gents, but my work day is over! See yall in the PM if you’re here..
July 19th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
my neck is all kinds of swollen how long till i can go back to work?
July 19th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
later tx drive safe
July 19th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
Thanks bro, safety first!
July 19th, 2012 at 1:48 pm
by that i mean watch out for the other db’s on the road lol
July 19th, 2012 at 1:48 pm
Celtics to acquire Courtney Lee in S&T with Houston for JaJuan Johnson..
July 19th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
thats awesome one day i will be at the colisium
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And you’ll never forget it……Wherever we are in the world, we’re just an extension of the Black Hole. Physically being there, is like coming home in a certain way.
July 19th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
Take Care Tx, always a pleasure
July 19th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
Celtics to acquire Courtney Lee
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Boston hasnt been very quiet this offseason, since losing Ray Allen.
July 19th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
i had money put in a saving for that reason but then lost my job so that money was spent on u guessed it bills
July 19th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
Celtics to acquire Courtney Lee
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Boston hasnt been very quiet this offseason, since losing Ray Allen.
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Looks like they upgraded.
Still dont like Jeff Green’s contract though.
July 19th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
f ray allen that little coward
July 19th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
thats like mcfadden leaving the raiders to go to the broncos
July 19th, 2012 at 1:55 pm
i had money put in a saving for that reason but then lost my job so that money was spent on u guessed it bills
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That sucks dude. I PLAN to get there every year, and something comes up….Money ain’t there. This year though, fingers crossed, I’ll be able to hit one.
July 19th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
mcskinnnylegs Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
thats like mcfadden leaving the raiders to go to the broncos
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Meh.
The Celtics were Ray Allens 3rd team..
July 19th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
good luck ghost if u get there dont forget the camera
July 19th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
One of the worst calls, if not the worst, since I’ve been watching football.
Couldn’t have been a more critical time either.
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Yup. Total BS call even if you subscribe to the validity of the tuck rule itself. Brady actually had two hands on the ball a split second before CW stripped him and there was no way his arm was still in a throwing motion.
Worst NFL call I’ve ever seen ?
Also in a Raider game, of course.
Came against the Chargers.
Bolts complete about a 15 yard pass right down the middle of the field for a first down.
Receiver goes down in the process of making the catch and is never touched by a Raider.
He gets up and decides to celebrate his catch by showboating and flipping the ball underhanded a few yards forward.
Raiders realize he was never touched down and pounce on the ball.
Fumble, right ?? Raider ball.
Not so fast.
This is the Raiders.
Refs rule the WR made an illegal forward pass.
No fumble. Charger ball.
Not only that – it was still SD ball, first down – after the penalty for the illegal forward pass was enforced from the spot the WR went down.
Unfkngbelievable.
July 19th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
good point but still f him
July 19th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
remember when luis murphy did something similar and the called it a fumble lol
July 19th, 2012 at 2:01 pm
Looks like they upgraded.
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you’re right DAV.
They might own the Heat again, until postseason!
July 19th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
good luck ghost if u get there dont forget the camera
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Not a chance. I’d take over 100 shots I bet ya.
July 19th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
yea that would be bad ass
July 19th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
dude if i lived in oakland i would def have season tickets
July 19th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
One of the worst calls, if not the worst, since I’ve been watching football.
Couldn’t have been a more critical time either.
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Yup. Total BS call even if you subscribe to the validity of the tuck rule itself. Brady actually had two hands on the ball a split second before CW stripped him and there was no way his arm was still in a throwing motion.
Worst NFL call I’ve ever seen ?
Also in a Raider game, of course.
Came against the Chargers.
Bolts complete about a 15 yard pass right down the middle of the field for a first down.
Receiver goes down in the process of making the catch and is never touched by a Raider.
He gets up and decides to celebrate his catch by showboating and flipping the ball underhanded a few yards forward.
Raiders realize he was never touched down and pounce on the ball.
Fumble, right ?? Raider ball.
Not so fast.
This is the Raiders.
Refs rule the WR made an illegal forward pass.
No fumble. Charger ball.
Not only that – it was still SD ball, first down – after the penalty for the illegal forward pass was enforced from the spot the WR went down.
Unfkngbelievable.
YES I remember that one! We would have won that game had it not been for that call! Wasn’t it Asomugha who jumped on that loose ball!
July 19th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
@hwnrdr
Not that big of a deal, but the Chris Johnson (CB) penality for thanking god after he got a pick. Although the rule states you cannot go down to one knee for celebration, the NFL head of Officiating said that players going down on one knee to thank god would not be a penalized.
July 19th, 2012 at 2:33 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
@hwnrdr
Not that big of a deal, but the Chris Johnson (CB) penality for thanking god after he got a pick. Although the rule states you cannot go down to one knee for celebration, the NFL head of Officiating said that players going down on one knee to thank god would not be a penalized.
Yeah that was ridiculous!
July 19th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
Bet the mortgage that Branch makes the Probowl next season because the Defense will improve spectacularly due to the addition by subtraction of:
1) Chuky B: whose IQ barely qualifies him to ride a tricycle, let alone design and call an NFL game plan.
2) Stanford Routt: Over-paid,over-hyped, decent 3rd CB. Not a top 30 CB in this observer’s opinion.
3) Man 2 Man: See you later 1960’s.
Raiders will be a top 10 D.
July 19th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
Funniest beer to drink is ButtMonkey Chimp Chiller Ale.
The labels are funny, you get the little puzzle under each bottle cap, and the beer is above average.
July 19th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
Rob Lytle fumble in the AFC title game was an absolute robbery too.
Lack of replay saved the Mules.
July 19th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
Sadly, we lost a member of The Nation the other day here in the 505.
Some moron’s decided to hold up a 7-11, and this tweaker ended up shooting the cashier.
His name was Chad Mercer, never knew him, but when the news brought up his pic and bio, his picture was of him in his room and he had Raider wallpaper and they told that he was a former Marine, and loved his Oakland Raiders.
Poor some brew out for our Nation member, Mr. Mercer.
July 19th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
I was in the Hilton sports book during that San Diego non-fumble/forward pass.
No audio, so I was confused as hell. What a crock that was.
July 19th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
yeah I remember the SD fwd pass. think it was vincent jackson….remember one time robert gallery got called for cliping for pushing a DE on the back while the DE was making a spin move…damn
July 19th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
another time a raider safety (anthony dorsette?) intercepted a ball on his own 1 yard line, his momentum took him into the endzone, felldown, got downed by the seahawks player, and got called for a safety? sob!
July 19th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
YES I remember that one! We would have won that game had it not been for that call! Wasn’t it Asomugha who jumped on that loose ball!
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It was Greg Biekert
July 19th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
another time john gruden said during a post-game presser how absurd it was that the raiders got called for 10 penalties while the jets got 0 penalties, specially since you could call PI and holding on every friggin play and the raiders threw like 40 passes….Gruden knew wtf was up
July 19th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
LV Hilton sports book was pretty nice.
I’m sitting there one night and some dude comes in and sits in front of me. Guy looks like he’s chiseled out of granite. I’m talking ripped. Take a closer look at the side of his head and notice some scar tissue around his eye. Figure he’s a fighter, but no one I recognize or know.
Like an idiot, I ask him if he’s a sparring partner.
Cat gets real offended and looks like he wants to kick my azz.
Says “Sparring partner ? No. I’m Charles Williams next light heavy champ.”
Takes a look at the board and he’s fighting Bobby Czyz and he’s +3.50.
Asked him if he was sure he was gonna win and he says he going to demolish Bobby.
And he did.
Course I didn’t bet it. Should have. Dude looked mean and was serious as cancer.
July 19th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
Yeah, no Crap….Raiders even get “OTHER” teams’s penalties.
Pittsburg Vs Baltimore……
Ref goes…..”Illeagal contact, hands to the face, the penalty will be enforced against the Raiders on their opening kick in 3 hours.”
LOL
July 19th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
And I’ve heard some WHACKY A$$ calls too. Stuff I never heard of before.
“Illeagal Proceedure, the Punter kicked the ball higher than the coloseum wall, therefore the ball went out of play and became a Dead ball……Result will be Automatic Toucdown for Kansas City and Free kick by the Raiders.”
Whistle blows….
July 19th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
theghostronin79 Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
Yeah, no Crap….Raiders even get “OTHER” teams’s penalties.
Pittsburg Vs Baltimore……
Ref goes…..”Illeagal contact, hands to the face, the penalty will be enforced against the Raiders on their opening kick in 3 hours.”
LOL
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ROFLMAO….ha thats a great one.
July 19th, 2012 at 3:10 pm
25 days until the first game and I am pumped up for it!
July 19th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
25 days until the first game and I am pumped up for it!
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exciting times…NFL needs to figure out how to stretch the season though.
The offseason without football is painful.
July 19th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
Pittsburg Vs Baltimore……
Ref goes…..”Illeagal contact, hands to the face, the penalty will be enforced against the Raiders on their opening kick in 3 hours.”
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Still laughin at this one…lol
July 19th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
25 days until the first game and I am pumped up for it!
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exciting times…NFL needs to figure out how to stretch the season though.
The offseason without football is painful.
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For Sure. An absolute skull Drag. Especially if you don’t watch any other sports….(LIKE ME)
“F” Baseball, “F” Basketball “F” Hockey….
REALLY PAINFUL
July 19th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
Still laughin at this one…lol
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LOL, Aint’ it though? Look at #852
July 19th, 2012 at 3:19 pm
Pittsburg Vs Baltimore……
Ref goes…..”Illeagal contact, hands to the face, the penalty will be enforced against the Raiders on their opening kick in 3 hours.”
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Still laughin at this one…lol
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Yeah, and Norv Turner watchin on the TV L His AO. Smug TURD.
July 19th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
“25 days until the first game and I am pumped up for it!
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exciting times…NFL needs to figure out how to stretch the season though.
The offseason without football is painful.
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For Sure. An absolute skull Drag. Especially if you don’t watch any other sports….(LIKE ME)
“F” Baseball, “F” Basketball “F” Hockey….
REALLY PAINFUL”
I have that same issue I wish I liked baseball or basketball it sure would make the off season a lot less painful. Kind of difficult being a one sport fan if your sport is football because its the shortest season of all sports.
July 19th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
That’s only my first boxing story at the LV Hilton that night.
Little later me and my brother are walking out the front entrance and see a big white limo parked there.
Look in the back seat and Mike Tyson is sitting there.
Walk over to say hello but he just kind of waves me off and rolls up the window. He clearly doesn’t want to be bothered and looks depressed. This is when he was going through that Robin Givens crap.
But I got to at least shake Mike’s paw.
So I knock on the window and say ‘Cheer up champ or I’m gonna kick your ass’ and then I start doing an Ali shuffle and bolo punch. Got a laugh out of Mike.
A few seconds later there’s a commotion behind me and I turn to see what’s going on.
It’s Don King walking towards the limo and, as usual, talking up a shiit storm.
Unbelievably, King hops into the driver’s seat of the limo and drives away. Guess he was Mike’s chauffeur that night.
July 19th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
“Illeagal Proceedure, the Punter kicked the ball higher than the coloseum wall, therefore the ball went out of play and became a Dead ball……Result will be Automatic Toucdown for Kansas City and Free kick by the Raiders.”
Whistle blows….
ROFLMAO…They also get the automatic 2 point conversion.
July 19th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
For Sure. An absolute skull Drag. Especially if you don’t watch any other sports….(LIKE ME)
“F” Baseball, “F” Basketball “F” Hockey….
REALLY PAINFUL”
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Yeah I hate all those other sports also…
Worse than watching paint dry, or grass growing…
July 19th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
I remember Jerry Rice getting flagged for a tripping call which negated a long Raider TD pass.
Total horsecrap.
July 19th, 2012 at 3:25 pm
‘Sup fellas.
One of the calls that got me was vs the Chefs. It was the game where Vermeil went for it on 4th down, instead of attempting the tying field goal as the clock expired.
The only problem is KC would’ve never been in that position except for a gift call from the refs a minute earlier.
I believe it was Tony Bryant (might’ve been Regan Upshaw) had just sacked Trent Green to seal the deal. It would’ve been about 4th and 24.
Then the refs pulled a yellow hanky outta their arse, ad bailed out the Chefs. They called a tripping penalty on the Raiders.
DT Ed Jasper bull rushed the guard into Greens face. The guy was beaten so badly he just grabbed Jasper and pulled him to te ground on top of him. Shoulda been a blatant HOLDING CALL, if anything.
When Bryant sacked Green they fell over top of Jasper and the aforementioned guard.
Instead of 4th and a country mile, it’s automatic 1st down Kansaaaaas Ciiiiity. A few plays later and Larry Johnson is diving over the goalline for the game winner. Total BS. Never shoulda happened.
The only positive out of the incident occurred a few wes later when CBS’s Jim Nantz was doing another KC game, this time vs Denver. LB Ian Gold stuck his leg out to trip a RB in the open field, and was flagged.
Nantz said…”now that’s a trip. Not like that phantom call a couple of weeks ago against Oakland. Hmmm, imagine that, a contrversial call going against the Raiders.”
God bless Jim Nantz.
July 19th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
It’s Don King walking towards the limo and, as usual, talking up a shiit storm.
Unbelievably, King hops into the driver’s seat of the limo and drives away. Guess he was Mike’s chaufforeur that night.
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With king chauffuering at 100k a night, not surprising.
July 19th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
ROFLMAO…They also get the automatic 2 point conversion
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LMAO No Shyyyt….. On 4th and 25 “Dead Ball, Taunting on # 51. He looks like a Mean MoFo and thereby intimidated the Running Back and made him leave his stance. 1st and goal San Diego.”
July 19th, 2012 at 3:28 pm
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Yeah I hate all those other sports also…
Worse than watching paint dry, or grass growing…
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Soon Gents, we’re almost there. I can taste it now.
July 19th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
I am not one to beleive in the ref’s are against us however, they watch the Raids so close during games, they have to invent shat to call.
The dig deep into the playbooks for some obsure rule, that not even the ref commitee has heard of.
Not to mention how many rules they will make up out of thin air shat they call on us defies logic.
July 19th, 2012 at 3:35 pm
I know right? I’d be in the bar after some bogus call, looking at folks around me for answers. All I get in return is shoulder shrugs and laughter. BUNCH OF B.S. man.
July 19th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
Another day closer to beating the snot outta Philip Rivers and the Chokers….
Raidersssss ….
July 19th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
One consolation.
If it’s true that these BS calls even out in the long run – the Raids should be getting fortunate whistles for about the next 50 years.
July 19th, 2012 at 3:42 pm
Hello Raider Nation!
If we do plan on using multiple fronts on defense, would Luis Castillo be a good pick up for our Raiders? He was released from the Chargirls!
July 19th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
I think the tuck rule was a result of 9/11, “The Red White & Blue Patriots”
July 19th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
I think the tuck rule was a result of 9/11, “The Red White & Blue Patriots”
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I have always said that, no one ever believes me.
July 19th, 2012 at 4:00 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
I think the tuck rule was a result of 9/11, “The Red White & Blue Patriots”
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Truth…I have allways thought this to be the case.
July 19th, 2012 at 4:19 pm
I am not a conspiracy theorist, and the whole Red White and Blue Patriots thing is beyond ridiculous to me.
Not too mention Robert Kraft is a HUUUUUGGGEE Democrat, so I doubt ol’ W would have been pulling any strings on his behalf.
The NFL? Please, they can barely walk and chew gum at the same time, better yet pull off some mass conspiracy and keep it secret.
July 19th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
Kell,
That’s what a friend said to me at the time. “Isn’t it obvious dude? After 9/11…it’s gotta be a Patriotic kinda year. Red, White and Blue”.
Could be something to it. Not only did they get bailed out with “The Tuck” Rule, but then they absolutely mugged The Greatest Show On Turf in the SB.
Watch the official NFL Films highlight from that game. It’s absolutely amazing what the Patriots got away with in that game.
On Ty Laws INT for a TD, Warner gets clubbed in the head. Blatantly. Facemast driven into the bridge of his nose.
Sorry, but that’s a penalty now..it was a penalty then. Hell, it was a penalty during Sugar Bear Hamilton’s day. No Call.
What they did to Marshall Faulk that day was borderline criminal. He tred to get out in pass routes and Patriot LB’s just mauled him. Grabbed him and threw him to the ground.
Refs just sat on their whistles.
Another miracle kick, and the Red, White and Blue confetti littered the field. IDK.
July 19th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
You don’t think Al Davis, and all his conspiracy hysteria and John Herrera with his world is out to get us mentality, wouldn’t have broached the subject AT LEAST once, if there was even an iota of truth to it?
Come on people!!!!
July 19th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
And in the 2001 World Series, the New York Yankees lost to Arizona.
I guess Bud Selig didn’t get the Patriotic-Conspiracy memo, lol.
July 19th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
It doesn’t suprise me that KoolKell would be hanging in the shallow end of the pool on this topic.
But Buckeye, Thec, RaiderBuck???
I am just going to pretend that you just theorize about it, but don’t ACTUALLY believe it.
July 19th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
Fk you Vegas. if you don’t believe it fine. No need to disparage people.
July 19th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
I think the tuck rule was a result of 9/11, “The Red White & Blue Patriots”
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Absolutely. No way they were going to let the “Raiders” beat the “Patriots” in 2001. Too much symbolism. It was a matter of national security
July 19th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
Fk you Vegas. if you don’t believe it fine. No need to disparage people.
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Well, at least I disparage people without cursing at them, lol.
But that’s what we get at the shallow end of the pool right Kool?
July 19th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
I never heard of the tuck rule before, I thought it was either a fumble or a forward pass. But, obviously they had it in the rule book.
July 19th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
I remember when we had this discussion years ago, and someone pointed to the ref not calling Raiders games anymore (which he doesn’t).
Then I posted an ESPN link, where that stuff happens all the time. Ed Hoculli doesn’t do Chargers games, the black dude Caray doesn’t do Eagles games or something like that.
July 19th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
Here you guys go, a little more tongue-in-cheek (and appropriate):
http://www.writersbeat.com/showthread.php?t=19779
July 19th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
Tuck rule = stupid rule, but called correctly
We had plenty of situations to where it would have never even came down to that one play, and we blew it.
Not too mention, if Vinatari is Vanderject, he would have missed by 15 feet and nobody would have ever even remembered it.
July 19th, 2012 at 4:59 pm
Tuck Rule = Convienent Rule.
July 19th, 2012 at 4:59 pm
It’s either a fumble or forward pass.
July 19th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
Raiders allowed the refs to make the difference in that game. They could and should have beaten them anyway. That’s what champions do – win no matter what
July 19th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
It’s either a fumble or forward pass.
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Correct, it was ruled an incomplete forward pass.
July 19th, 2012 at 5:02 pm
Dang, the tuck rule convo snowballed like a MFka!lol
July 19th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
No, they said he was trying to put the ball away. It was not a forward pass.
July 19th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
The most disputed “indisputable evidence” in sports history
July 19th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
If we are going to fancy ourselves as being NFL bad azzes again and making postseason runs, we HAVE TO quit the woe-is-me, everyone is out to get us, oh darn it not again attitude.
July 19th, 2012 at 5:06 pm
Exactly. We have to punch everyone in the face and take what we want. Not all that complicated really. Raider ball
July 19th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
No, they said he was trying to put the ball away. It was not a forward pass.
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Fighting the urge to disparage…..
Umm….yes they did. Listen to the refs explanation (:45 second)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aM-JxUVYDM&feature=related
July 19th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
KoolKell still is confused by it apparently, lol.
It was ruled an imcomplete forward pass, he was still in the act of “tucking” which meant his throwing motion was not complete, therefore incomplete forward pass.
Not too hard, I know you can do it.
July 19th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
Introduced in 1999, it reads:
NFL Rule 3, Section 22, Article 2, Note 2. When [an offensive] player is holding the ball to pass it forward, any intentional forward movement of his arm starts a forward pass, even if the player loses possession of the ball as he is attempting to tuck it back toward his body. Also, if the player has tucked the ball into his body and then loses possession, it is a fumble.[1]
July 19th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
Ummmm…..you realize that makes my point right?
“any intentional movement of his arm starts a forward pass, EVEN IF the player loses possession of the ball as he is attempting to tuck it back toward his body”.
That’s exactly what happened and the official call.
Incomplete pass. That’s what the ref called on the field, that’s what is in the official gamelogs play-by-play.
July 19th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
In the closing moments of the fourth quarter of the game in a snowy Foxboro Stadium, with New England trailing by three points, New England quarterback Tom Brady dropped back to pass. After he had begun a passing motion, Brady apparently ceased his throwing motion, pulled his right hand down below his shoulder and had touched the ball to his left hand when, coming off the strong side corner blitz, Charles Woodson knocked the ball out of Brady’s hands. Raiders middle linebacker Greg Biekert then fell on the loose football. The officials initially called the play a recovered fumble, which would have sealed the victory for the Raiders. But after instant replay, referee Walt Coleman reversed this call, declared the play an incomplete forward pass, and gave possession back to New England. In explaining the reversal to the stadium crowd and the television audience, the referee stated that the ball was moving forward at the time it was dropped.[3] In later interviews, the referee stated that it was his explanation, not the reversal, that was in error; the ball was moving backwards when it was lost, but the tuck rule applied. In any case, Patriots kicker Adam Vinatieri later tied the game with a dramatic 45-yard field goal, and the Patriots took advantage of the momentum they had seized, defeating the Raiders in overtime on another field goal and eliminating them from the playoffs. Two games later, the Patriots won Super Bowl XXXVI.
July 19th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
But after instant replay, referee Walt Coleman reversed this call, declared the play an incomplete forward pass
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What are you doing, just disagreeing just to disagree?
July 19th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
Sounds like a fix to me
July 19th, 2012 at 5:20 pm
While the NFL has defended the call, not everybody has agreed. Bruce Allen, who ran the front office for the Raiders at the time of the game, still believes it was a fumble. “The rule itself doesn’t bother me,” he said. “But the way the rule is written, it was a fumble.”[1] Nevertheless, when the NFL’s Competition Committee re-examined the rule after the 2001-2002 season, they made no changes to the rule; Pereira notes that attempts have been made to revise the rule, but such revisions have always proven to be more difficult to enforce than the current rule.
The tuck rule also was enforced in the NFL playoff game on January 9, 2011 between the Kansas City Chiefs and the Baltimore Ravens. After this game, Mike Pereira, the former NFL vice-president for officiating, stated that he was no longer in support of the tuck rule.[4]
July 19th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
So it was ruled an imcomplete pass, Bruce Allen and others just think it was a bad call (not some elaborate conspiracy) and that play has been called in other playoff games against other teams.
I couldn’t have stated it better myself, thanks Kool!!!
July 19th, 2012 at 5:25 pm
TxRaider210 Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
Sounds like a fix to me
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Sounds fishy to me, too.
July 19th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
It was still clearly not going to be a forward pass by any means, Brady was falling and cradling the ball.
July 19th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
That play would have clinched it for the Raiders, and the Ref goes to the Booth for a conversation upstairs? c’mon
July 19th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
That’s the rule though.
Kool posted the writeup.
*Again*
“any intentional forward movement of his arm starts a forward pass, EVEN IF the player loses possession of the ball as he is attempting to tuck it back toward his body.
The key is *even if*. Why would they use that as a rule is beyond me, but that’s the rule and it was called correctly.
July 19th, 2012 at 5:30 pm
That play would have clinched it for the Raiders, and the Ref goes to the Booth for a conversation upstairs? c’mon
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Under two minutes to go, all close plays reviewed upstairs.
Again, your letting your heart speak for your brain.
They “go to the booth for a conversation upstairs” by rule on that play.
July 19th, 2012 at 5:30 pm
TxRaider210 Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
It was still clearly not going to be a forward pass by any means, Brady was falling and cradling the ball.
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ESPN the Magazine did a short little article on this with drawings and everything last month. Both hands were on the ball and he had completed the tuck. Even ESPN said we got screwed!!
July 19th, 2012 at 5:37 pm
Endorsed Debo and case closed for me, has been for some time.
July 19th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
After this game, Mike Pereira, the former NFL vice-president for officiating, stated that he was no longer in support of the tuck rule.[4]
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Of course. NOW he’s not in support of it. After all it’s already served it’s purpose.
It screwed the Raiders out of a playoff game and jump started the Patriot ‘dynasty’.
Mission accomplished. We don’t need it anymore.
July 19th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
TxRaider210 Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 5:37 pm
Endorsed Debo and case closed for me, has been for some time.
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Still bothers the sht out of me. It would’ve been easier to deal with if they had made the call from the outset. But to overturn a called fumble??? Worst call in the history of sports!!
July 19th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
If they called it an incomplete pass, it would not have been reviewable, per the replay rules back then.
Coleman said, in that same ESPN mag piece, that was part of the reason he called it a fumble, he wasn’t 100% sure so he wanted to make the call that would give him the option of replay.
July 19th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
Yep for sure man.
July 19th, 2012 at 5:51 pm
Wow, Adam Morrison is alive and playing for the Clips?
Who knew???
All right, let’s go team Diabetes!!!!
July 19th, 2012 at 6:04 pm
910.Just Fire Baby Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
That’s the rule though.
Kool posted the writeup.
*Again*
“any intentional forward movement of his arm starts a forward pass, EVEN IF the player loses possession of the ball as he is attempting to tuck it back toward his body.
The key is *even if*. Why would they use that as a rule is beyond me, but that’s the rule and it was called correctly.
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the patriot blog is here:
http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/?
maybe you’d be more at home there.
July 19th, 2012 at 6:15 pm
Guys dont worry….Vegas Raider ossy is still sore from the Braves Tomahwak HR festtoday and the fact the great Dodgers will be getting Ryan Dempster
VR……..if you are agreeing with that dumbass call then you are delusional.
You telling me Brady was doing a two hand fkin pass?
Woodson didnt jar it loose completely….Brady’s left hand did that! Look at how the ball tumble over that hand…be serious man
Still we werent gonna win the SB that year with a hurt Woodson
July 19th, 2012 at 6:15 pm
pssy* and fest today*
July 19th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
That play would have clinched it for the Raiders, and the Ref goes to the Booth for a conversation upstairs? c’mon
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As Al Davis said…the rules state that he has to be conclusive to overturn the play….was that conclusive? Hell no!
Luckett called to Paul Phaglibue red phone like you use to see in the old batman episodes and then followed orders
Jerry Rice that broad along with Gruden had no sack at all post game while Al,Timmy and Woodson talked major schit
Timmy said “You cant tell the situation with Al Davis and the league hasnt spilled over onto the field”
July 19th, 2012 at 7:03 pm
I believe the Tuck rule in itself is severely flawed and allows for calls like the Brady one to be defined under it’s wide scope of “any intentional forward movement of the arm is a forward pass”.
But the ref had it right, by the rule. Just a stupid rule.
July 19th, 2012 at 7:04 pm
Can Ryan Dempster hit or play SS?
If not, he won’t be of much help to them.
July 19th, 2012 at 7:05 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 6:15 pm
Guys dont worry….Vegas Raider ossy is still sore from the Braves Tomahwak HR festtoday and the fact the great Dodgers will be getting Ryan Dempster
VR……..if you are agreeing with that dumbass call then you are delusional.
You telling me Brady was doing a two hand fkin pass?
Woodson didnt jar it loose completely….Brady’s left hand did that! Look at how the ball tumble over that hand…be serious man
Still we werent gonna win the SB that year with a hurt Woodson
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like it matters. Gigante’s don’t need the big name to take down the division! it will be a race for sure though … no doubt.
July 19th, 2012 at 7:09 pm
Giants took 2 out of 3 in ATL as well, and outscored them by close to 15 runs.
Zito pitching shutouts and Crawford jacking homers?
As Priest would say, “Gave Ovah!!!”
July 19th, 2012 at 7:36 pm
LOL yea Crawford fouled a ball straight to the inside of his knee… gets back up, and belts one out. that was impressive. he’s definitely improved… still not that great though.
today they had 10 hits 2 runs… they do that constantly, and might kill them in the end if LA its it on again.
i miss the Beard. watched Castilla for years on the A’s .. he sucks.
July 19th, 2012 at 7:37 pm
I love KoolKell belly-aching that it should have been a fumble or a forward pass.
When I mention that it was ruled a forward pass, he disagrees then recites articles that clearly state, it was a forward pass.
So he makes a point, I agree with it, but then he disagrees with me and his original point, then provides links that shows while he was at first right, now he is refuting his original accuracy with links refuting his refuteness.
That just about sums up our buddy doesn’t it?
July 19th, 2012 at 7:38 pm
*turns it on again
July 19th, 2012 at 7:38 pm
923.Just Fire Baby Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 7:03 pm
I believe the Tuck rule in itself is a great rule and allows for calls like the Brady one to be the one the Raiders deserved under it’s wide scope of “any intentional forward movement of the arm is a forward pass”.
But the ref had it right, by the rule. It’s a great rule.
July 19th, 2012 at 7:39 pm
Casilla is not ready for these lights that are about to shine, and will be our death nail if we don’t get something figured.
Maybe a trade for Myers in Houston or Papelbon in Philly?
But I am not at the least concerned about the Dodgers. They will be lucky to finish over .500.
July 19th, 2012 at 7:39 pm
Seahawks Rule.
Super Bowl baby….whooooo hooooooo.
July 19th, 2012 at 7:40 pm
Crawford should be in the 2-hole, IMO.
Even though he is not great, he seems to hit better up there than when he is down in the 8th spot.
Hitting 8th in the NL is not easy, you don’t get many pitches to hit (if any).
July 19th, 2012 at 7:41 pm
926.Just Fire Baby Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 7:09 pm
Giants took 2 out of 3 in ATL as well, and outscored them by close to 15 runs.
Zito pitching shutouts and Crawford jacking homers?
It doesn’t matter cuz the Mariners are gonna win it all anyway.
July 19th, 2012 at 7:44 pm
YES THE MARINERS! definitely. Ichiro can’t do it by himself.. i happen to also be an A’s fan as well(not the same as football) .. and watching the A’s as we speak, they’re just a homerun hitting machine. Billy Bean may have done it again with scrubs and AAA players!
July 19th, 2012 at 7:45 pm
“refuting his refuteness.”
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Okay. You seriously just made me laugh out loud on that one.
Thanks.
July 19th, 2012 at 7:46 pm
A’s are playing good ball.
Lots of team to compete with for that 2nd WC spot though.
Only a game or so out, but like 6 other teams are right there.
MLB = winning
July 19th, 2012 at 7:47 pm
JFB,
absolutely. whenever he hits in the 2-hole, he lights it up.
Blanco needs to be at the bottom! put Crawford lead off even… he obviously does better at the top of the order.
July 19th, 2012 at 7:47 pm
the way the A’s are playing, they will take the lead over the Angirls.
July 19th, 2012 at 7:48 pm
grr 2nd place i mean.. they wont pass TEX
July 19th, 2012 at 7:51 pm
Blanco is the only “true” leadoff guy though.
Takes lots of pitches, high OBP, steals bases, can bunt.
Whatever, just get dudes on base for El Lechero. That seems to work pretty well, lol.
July 19th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
Basically between the Angels, A’s, Tigers, Indians, Rays, Red Sox and Orioles, only two teams will get in.
Rays, Sox and O’s just may beat up on each other, and leave the Angels-A’s and Tigers-Indians to figure it out.
July 19th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
936.DJ Johnny Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 7:45 pm
“refuting his refuteness.”
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Okay. You seriously just made me realize that i’m rooting for the wrong team.
I have to admit i’m a big Seahawk fan. I need to root for the next super bowl winner…Seahawks baby!
Thanks.
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nice to see some logic in this stinky place.
Petey Carol…All Day and Night baby.
July 19th, 2012 at 7:54 pm
but the A’s pitching is #1 in the AL … BOOOM! that and homerun hitting? 6 years ago this happened… bout time they show life again. lets hope the team sharing their stadium does something similar! they need to play their way out of the Coliseum.
July 19th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
I can’t wait for the preseason to see Tom Cable’s get up again.
Last year, I spotted him on the sidelines in an untucked shirt, diamond earring and pinky ring, lol.
Petey made him clean it up for the regular season.
July 19th, 2012 at 7:58 pm
Wherever the A’s eventually go (please go somewhere) I hope the next stadium has a million miles of foul ground as well.
I love quirky, ballpark things like that!!! Huge RF power ally in San Fran, short porch in Yankee stadium, massive CF to cover in Pitt, The Monster, etc.
July 19th, 2012 at 8:00 pm
yea JFB he’s their only lead off guy … and he’s not bad, especially with credentials like that. he was hitting great earlier, hopefully he can find it again and i eat my words! he is a good all around player.
El Lechro! haha yes it does seem to work nicely.
that does scare me that the have may have to fight it out with the angels … they are worth a dozen freakin A’s organizations for crying out loud.
if they had half the money those teams did, they’d be a championship team.
July 19th, 2012 at 8:02 pm
Blanco no doubt was in a funk and needed the All-Star break more than anybody on the team.
July 19th, 2012 at 8:02 pm
haha! yea that huge foul ball territory plays to their advantage doesnt it?
i say A’s and Raiders share a place for now! until one of them can get their own.. this time removable turf for the Raiders! BOOM! put their money together and get what scraps OAK has to pitch in… and still put your middle finger up to Goodhell and the NFL, AL DAVIS STYLE!
July 19th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
PS screw monster! screw BOSTON!
or how about Houston’s hill in center field? that’s going a little too far
July 19th, 2012 at 8:06 pm
the Gankee’s short wall is complete BS too .. what is it 13ft shorter?
July 19th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
Yeah I left out the hill in Houston (don’t forget the foul pole IN PLAY) because that is a little too gimmicky.
Thankfully it is like 430 feet away so it doesn’t come into play often, but everyone eats shat trying to run up it lol.
July 19th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
4-0 NY CHUMPS!
still don’t hear many A’s fan cheers. about 80% Yankees fans in the crowd.
July 19th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
Yes dvrick. The Seahawks are, in all likelihood, going to win the Super Bowl next year. I can’t encourage you enough to take all the money you have invested in your run down single wide home/meth lab and put it ALL on the hawks. It is probably the big break you have been looking for to get a DOUBLE WIDE rundown home/meth lab.
July 19th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
yea HAHA! it’s going too far… the foul ball in fair play, really?!
July 19th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
Yankee RF is 315 feet and about a 6 foot wall.
As a comparision, RF at West High in Tracy was 330 feet with a 10 foot fence.
July 19th, 2012 at 8:10 pm
*pole
July 19th, 2012 at 8:10 pm
Sorry meant FLAG pole.
It’s at the top of the hill and In play (I don’t think I have ever seen anyone hit it on the fly, but I did see one bounce off it once)
July 19th, 2012 at 8:12 pm
LMAO!
that’s how NY rolls, mo’ money the mo’ they can cheat and pad their stats! the league looks the other way…
July 19th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
I would like to see Pryor in some games. Maybe some wildcat formations and gol line he coul be the cam neuton of our team just have him run it in on some occasions imo
July 19th, 2012 at 8:15 pm
yes it did bounce off of it! it was a highlight on BSPN! you’re right. it was a complete joke.
ok A’s have a big foul ball territory it’s true.. it plays to their advantage. but not nearly as much as other ballparks as we’ve mentioned.
same with the Giro’s… not a hitters ballpark obviously, but they have problems themselves hitting the ball.(again, obviously)
July 19th, 2012 at 8:16 pm
sit down and put another DAP IN YER MOUTH SWISHER SWEET!
July 19th, 2012 at 8:17 pm
I agree in using Pryor, but I think this “Wildcat” thing is like the WCO offense now, where anything remotely close is called a West Coast Offense.
I don’t want Pryor in the “wildcat” at the goalline, in shotgun faking handoffs and all that.
If he is in shotgun, direct snap and plow it in, which is pretty much like the Pro formation, only in shotgun.
Same thing with Tebow last year. People thought he was in some Wildcat, REad option offense. It was basically a power running, play-action offense, just run through shotgun sets mostly.
July 19th, 2012 at 8:17 pm
Speaking of Tom Cable, seeing his name made me think of our old pal Randy Hanson and what he’s been up to:
Randy Hanson Hired as Defensive Secondary Coach at Cal Poly
SAN LUIS OBISPO, Calif. — Randy Hanson, an assistant coach with the United Football League’s Sacramento Mountain Lions last season and a former assistant under head coach Tim Walsh at Portland State, has been hired as an assistant coach at Cal Poly.
July 19th, 2012 at 8:18 pm
Unless you have unwordly strength, AT & T Park will kill you.
400 foot outs all day, lol.
That’s why the Melk is perfect and we need to lock him down for years. He has the perfect hitting stroke for that park.
July 19th, 2012 at 8:19 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 8:17 pm
I agree in using Pryor, but I think this “Wildcat” thing is like the WCO offense now, where anything remotely close is called a West Coast Offense.
I don’t want Pryor in the “wildcat” at the goalline, in shotgun faking handoffs and all that.
If he is in shotgun, direct snap and plow it in, which is pretty much like the Pro formation, only in shotgun.
Same thing with Tebow last year. People thought he was in some Wildcat, REad option offense. It was basically a power running, play-action offense, just run through shotgun sets mostly.
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we wont have to result to that in the redzone. Pryor will ride pine holding the clip board. this isn’t Hue Jack City anymore. you can print it!
July 19th, 2012 at 8:19 pm
Good to see Hanson is still living the dream.
Al would be happy.
July 19th, 2012 at 8:19 pm
-result +resort
July 19th, 2012 at 8:21 pm
Hanson was on Dennis Green’s staff on the Mountain Lions last year. Yes, THAT Dennis Green.
Remember when he was rumored to be the next Raider coach?
July 19th, 2012 at 8:22 pm
Completely against any type of Wildcat.
Implies an inability to pass because it’s more of a non QB takng the snap.
QB out of the shotgun is completely different.
July 19th, 2012 at 8:23 pm
HAHA JFB! Hanson does live the dream.my buddy working a Livermore gas station knew Hanson. the dude would strut in like he was the sh!t every night.
i meant to walk over there when my friend texted me and ask him how’d it feel getting KNOCKED THE FK OUT by Curly!
i guess he lived off of Airway in Livermore(where the gas station is). all that being said though, once that crap went down, apparently he was driving a new Audi or Beamer or something i forgot. Al paid him out, obviously.
July 19th, 2012 at 8:24 pm
Completely against any type of Wildcat.
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You know, it just never took hold here.
Won’t miss it.
In The Bruce’s last game here, we tried a wildcat snap on 1st and 10, and D-Mac just fumbled the snap and lost the ball.
Can’t be too pleased as an organization, when your play-caller FAILS having your star RB taking shotgun snaps handing it off to a FB.
I could just imagine Hue and Cable trying to explain that one to Al on Monday.
July 19th, 2012 at 8:25 pm
thank you J Hill! validates my point! Pryor, ride some pine, meat! that one’s for you JFB!
July 19th, 2012 at 8:25 pm
Airway in Livermore is somewhat by Las Positas golf course right?
My grandma’s house was not too far from there.
July 19th, 2012 at 8:38 pm
Wouldn’t think ole Denny Green would have a good enough resume to keep a gig in the NFL?
I wonder if Hue is headed for the USFL or something.
I bet if he was offered a HC gig there he would take it.
Kinda sad.
I think he deserves a better fate. Yeah, he made some mistakes, but i’ve seen current HC’s screw up worse than him and still be coaching.
Lovie Smith comes to mind.
July 19th, 2012 at 8:41 pm
Hue has never won enough to be afforded a leash on things.
His previous OC stops were one-year disasters, and while he certainly had success calling plays here, both teams were 8-8, and something was never air-tight about them.
July 19th, 2012 at 8:49 pm
Indy signed Andrew Luck for a 4 yr. $22M contract. If any one tries to say our beloved AD wasn’t totally off his rocker to sign JaMarcus to a $54M dollar dear, he/she is just as crazy as AD was.
Poor Hue….The idiot is fit for nothing else save a pimp. REGGIE SHOULD HAVE OFFERED HIM A NEW CADILLACE WITH A FEW WORKING GIRLS INSTEAD OF PAYING OFF HIS CONTRACT
July 19th, 2012 at 8:50 pm
Texiara juuuuust missed that one.
Watching the Yanks feed, and they flashed the stat that the Yanks are worst in MLB with the bases loaded in bat avg and strikeouts, but lead the league in Grand Slams and RBI’s.
The epitome of all or nothing I guess.
July 19th, 2012 at 8:50 pm
Dennis Allen has been with 3 teams in 3 years.
July 19th, 2012 at 8:53 pm
Pryor …
Not sold.
Shouldn’t still be learning how to throw at this level.
Throwing the ball should be the best thing an NFL QB does.
July 19th, 2012 at 8:55 pm
College coaches seem to use Black QB’s differently.
July 19th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
J Hill Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 8:53 pm
Pryor …
Not sold.
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Neither am I. He is working very hard to improve tho, and he wants to be very good. lst step is to see how he plays in a few weeks against some scrubs.
July 19th, 2012 at 8:57 pm
But each year has been a promotion.
July 19th, 2012 at 9:03 pm
# Raider guy Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 8:57 pm
But each year has been a promotion.
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And he has a World Championship ring.
July 19th, 2012 at 9:06 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 8:55 pm
College coaches seem to use Black QB’s differently.
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how so ?
July 19th, 2012 at 9:09 pm
They use them as “Atheletes” not as Passing QB’s. Generally.
July 19th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
I see no reason Hue why won’t get another shot as an OC.
July 19th, 2012 at 9:14 pm
Problem with QBs who can run is they run.
QBs who you see running all over the place have more confidence in their legs than their arm.
I don’t see how the coach factors in to that.
July 19th, 2012 at 9:15 pm
Jason Campbell was a “classic” drop back QB with Auburn, but that’s about all I can think of at the moment.
I suppose Jamarcus was kind of in that general mold as well at LSU.
July 19th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
J Hill Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 9:14 pm
Problem with QBs who can run is they run.
QBs who you see running all over the place have more confidence in their legs than their arm.
I don’t see how the coach factors in to that.
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That’s what the Coaches see.
July 19th, 2012 at 9:17 pm
Hey, I read that somewhere.
July 19th, 2012 at 9:17 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 1:34 pm
Yo, Dwight should be flying into LB by the end of the week, sizing up beachfront in Hermosa
Word is homie wants a 20 ft jacuzzi with water features. Dem hizzies will get straight up SILLY
Beeeech Dawg sources are reporting it’ll be a 5 year deal, that’s at least 3 rings and 4 MVPs
Nash, Howard, Jamison, O’Neal – best offseason since I smoked a bowl with Kool Moe Dee on South Padre Island, Spring Break ‘87
YOU KNOW THAT’S HOW THEM BIG DAWGS BAR
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Ahh yeeeahhhhh! LAKE SHOW BABY!
July 19th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
And, I said generally speaking, before everybody gets insulted.
July 19th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
987.J Hill Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
I see no reason Hue why won’t get another shot as an OC.
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You’d think so…
His stock seems to have plummeted.
July 19th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
The Oakland Raiders have gone nine seasons without a playoff berth.
Under Hue Jackson, the 2011 Raiders believed they were poised to end the drought after a 5-2 start. They lost quarterback Jason Campbell to a broken collarbone in Week Six. Capitalizing on a brief power acquisition following the passing of longtime owner Al Davis, Jackson attempted to save the season by sending first- and second-round draft picks to Cincinnati in exchange for quarterback Carson Palmer. The move backfired miserably as Palmer threw 16 interceptions in ten appearances, and Jackson was fired after the season.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/13/preseason-power-rankings-no-23-oakland-raiders/
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Wrong….it’s more like the Raiders Defense stunk and cost the team critical wins.
July 19th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
You are right that the athletic part of the game is how black qbs are typically used in college…but I see that becoming a part of the pro game now too—Vick and Cunningham were ahead of the curve—but with Cam Newton, RGIII and when Logan Thomas comes up after this year…I think those 3 will be used as a mixture of both drop back passing and playmaking just like how they were in college, and Cam was this past year.
July 19th, 2012 at 9:23 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
987.J Hill Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
I see no reason Hue why won’t get another shot as an OC.
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You’d think so…
His stock seems to have plummeted.
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For now….he will be an OC again within 2 years.
July 19th, 2012 at 9:24 pm
This team needs a vet MLB to help the youngsters in that LB corp and help McClain mature and signing Benson to bargain deal would be a good move IMO.
July 19th, 2012 at 9:30 pm
I think the LB core got what they needed, a new coaching staff.
July 19th, 2012 at 9:31 pm
The move backfired miserably
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See. This is what i’m talking about. Blaming Palmer???
If that horrible defense finds a way to hold SD on their 1/2 yd. line and gives the ball back on a short field, Palmer…who was already hovering at 400 yds. passing and 2 td’s already in the game, gets the ball back and the Raiders win the division.
Now, Palmer is being praised as the hero who came off the couch to lead the Raiders to their first playoff appearence in almost a decade and as division winners we host a beat up Steeler team at home…probably win and play a 2nd rd. game at NE.
I really don’t know how much more stupidity from the national media I can take.
July 19th, 2012 at 9:36 pm
I think the coaches in college are putting the best playmaker on the field in a lot of cases.
Just as hard as it is to find a good QB in the NFL level, it’s much harder for all these college teams to find kids who can throw.
I watched a couple of college games this past season where the QB literally couldn’t hit anyone. Ohio State was one of them. Pathetic passing. PATHETIC!
Onlyoption for a team like that is to come up with gimmic wildcat type offenses.
July 19th, 2012 at 9:50 pm
I guess they prefer Black QB’s for that.
July 19th, 2012 at 9:52 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 8:25 pm
Airway in Livermore is somewhat by Las Positas golf course right?
My grandma’s house was not too far from there.
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yup it is. Hanson lived in the town homes across the street, apparently.
worked and lived in livermore… not anymore though.. small world!
July 19th, 2012 at 9:54 pm
J Hill
Pryor will hold the clipboard and learn the plays. we’ll be able to see the seriousness of wanting to do so early on in games. see what he’s doing on the sidelines… clear indication of what he really wants(as he’s been unsure as of late) … he’s got a while to go before he can throw the ball accurately. that’s why he will RIDE PINE
July 19th, 2012 at 10:13 pm
I understand he will ride the pine.
So is he supposed to learn how to make NFL throws in …How long is he supposed to ride the pine again????
Just not a fan of the running QB. That’s the RBs job!
July 19th, 2012 at 10:18 pm
I watched a couple of college games this past season where the QB literally couldn’t hit anyone. Ohio State was one of them. Pathetic passing. PATHETIC!
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The Ohio State University had a true freshman playing QB, and they didn’t have a good coaching staff. Urban Meyer and Braxton Miller will be fine!
July 19th, 2012 at 10:19 pm
I’m more anxious to see Lienart.
Want to see if he trusts his noodle arm enough to target the WRs.
July 19th, 2012 at 10:21 pm
Not sure what the coaching staff had to do with that kid not being able to hit the side of a barn.
Nothing against OSU either.
I just know his passing was so bad, I turned it to somethig else.
I can’t imagine him progressing to even serviceable in just one offseason.
July 19th, 2012 at 10:22 pm
Every QB prospect has to work on his throwing motion and footwork.
July 19th, 2012 at 10:25 pm
J Hill Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 8:53 pm
Pryor …
Not sold.
Shouldn’t still be learning how to throw at this level.
Throwing the ball should be the best thing an NFL QB does.
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Is it throwing the ball, or a slight mechanical issue that can be fixed?
Is it footwork?
Where are the reports that say he cant throw at an NFL level from the NATION Org?
July 19th, 2012 at 10:33 pm
Braxton Miller:
85/157 (54.1%) for 1159 yards, 13 TDs, 4 INTs, 138.4 QB rating, and 700+ yards rushing as a true freshman.
Not bad for a kid “not being able to hit the side of a barn”.
July 19th, 2012 at 10:33 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2012 at 9:30 pm
I think the LB core got what they needed, a new coaching staff.
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I hope you are right.
My major concern is this group. Do we have all the moving parts to be effective.
What the he11 are we going to get out of McC?
eally
July 19th, 2012 at 10:42 pm
Where are the reports that say he cant throw at an NFL level from the NATION Org?
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Just my opinion.
Footwork???
Mechanics???
Sounds like still learning how to throw.
I’m sure you’ve seen the quotes fom he HC on how far he has to go to be ready to ply QB for us. It’s usually right before he throws out the hard working kid disclaimer.
July 19th, 2012 at 10:44 pm
My major concern are the corners.
July 19th, 2012 at 10:46 pm
Gnite Gents.
July 19th, 2012 at 10:47 pm
I’m far from arguing that 55 is playing like a top 10 pick. Probably could have got someone to do what he’s done in the 3rd rd or so.
Just don’t think playing like a 3rd rd pick should equal getting benched or cut until there is a better option available.
July 19th, 2012 at 10:50 pm
Ltr Kell
July 19th, 2012 at 10:52 pm
Just don’t think playing like a 3rd rd pick should equal getting benched or cut until there is a better option available.
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Would not be wise to get rid of him without having a suitable replacement.
July 19th, 2012 at 10:56 pm
I’m more anxious to see Lienart.
Want to see if he trusts his noodle arm enough to target the WRs.
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Not me. Seen enough of Matty Lice.
And if he trusts his noodle arm enough to target the WRs, so what ? He still can’t get the ball there !
There is absolutely no point in giving Matt extensive time in the pre-season games. He supposedly already knows the system.
This pre-season should be used to allow Pryor to get some experience, learn the system, and most importantly – get an idea if he’s capable of making the throws necessary to be a succesful NFL QB.
I concluded that Leinart couldn’t make the throws even before he lost to Texas in the Fiesta Bowl. No arm strength. Never thought he’d make it big in the NFL.
Unless you think Leinart can be more than a backup in the NFL, it makes no sense to give him pre-season time at the expense of seeing what TP looks like and delaying/hindering his development.
Pre-season should be Pryor time, baby.
July 19th, 2012 at 11:10 pm
Yeah, it’s too early to give up on Mayor Ronaldo McCheese.
Too much invested and who’s the replacement ?
But clearly, Ronaldo is on thin ice and if the Raids are smart, preparing for life without McLame.
Would be nice if there was some Ronaldo redemption, but at this point McLame being a long term centerpiece of the Raider defense – which is what he was drafted for – is a long-shot.
Off to the casinos. Later, gentlemen.
July 19th, 2012 at 11:19 pm
McClain? You have to be joking, fat azz and all. He should just get out of league and retire. However, as dumb as he is, he would end up sleeping his car under an overpass.
July 19th, 2012 at 11:20 pm
dead broke….maybe he and purple drank can be broke roomies in the backseat.
July 20th, 2012 at 3:17 am
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July 20th, 2012 at 4:52 am
At least 14 people were killed and 50 injured early Friday when at least one assailant opened fire during a shootout scene in a midnight screening near Denver of the summer blockbuster “The Dark Knight Rises,” police and witnesses said.
The incident occurred in the Century 16 Movie Theaters at the Aurora Town Center, police told NBC News. Aurora is a suburb less than 10 miles east of downtown Denver.
He was supposedly in all black wearing a bullet-proof vest and gas mask and throwing tear gas or smoke grenades. They are searching his house for explosives and have evacuated the neighborhood.
July 20th, 2012 at 4:54 am
Terrible story. What is the world coming to? I heard that a baby was killed. Why would anyone do this. I can’t begin to get inside the physhcology of understanding this madman. The world seems unsafe now. Thoughts and prayers to the people of Colorado.
July 20th, 2012 at 5:07 am
Damn, that is a horrible story.
Aurora is a nice area too.
July 20th, 2012 at 5:10 am
I know, I used to live in Colorado. Down in Co. Springs. Colorado has had a very rough month what with the firefires down in the springs and now this shooting which is said to be just 20 minutes away from Columbine.
July 20th, 2012 at 5:28 am
Colorado is a beautiful state. I lived there 3 years back in the mid 90s. Very friendly people and perfect climate in the summer. Even as a Raider fan getting a lot of trash talk about it, I have nothing but good memories of it. I’m sad to hear of the what’s gone on there.
The whole midnight showings of big movies is well before my time. I remember when my daughter was excited about the last Harry Potter film, and I thought it was nuts to see a movie at midnight. But it become a big time phenomenom. I just don’t know, maybe it’s overreacting, but I won’t let anyone from family ever attend one of those in the future. Just don’t know what is going on with some people these days. SMH
July 20th, 2012 at 5:52 am
Thoughts and prayers goes out to all those in Colorado that was a victim in this mess! WTF is wrong with people these days???
Good Morning Nation!
July 20th, 2012 at 5:56 am
Good Morning Hwnrdr,
Horrible pointless tragedy. I don’t know WTF is wrong with people to answer your question.
July 20th, 2012 at 6:04 am
And to think, basically it was for nothing? Sorry, don’t know the whole story, but was there any reasoning at all?
I swear, some people should know when not to leave the house!
July 20th, 2012 at 6:11 am
TO MUCH T.V. LIFE HAS NO VALUE TO SOME YOUTH THESE DAYS.
July 20th, 2012 at 6:12 am
And video games! You’re absolutely right Dirt Lot!
July 20th, 2012 at 6:12 am
Heard there was an infant shot.
Not trying to do the blame game thing, but why is an infant at a midnight showing of a movie?
July 20th, 2012 at 6:12 am
They identified the gunman and called his mom who is flying into Colorado. Reports are she seemd to know he was messed up in the head.
Who knows what his motive is? The only thing that makes sense is to get his name up on news bloggers and be a “celebrity” for a few days. Then he’ll be a deathrow celebrity and have his face on the cover of magazines and trashbin digests.
And yes I understand that makes no sense either.
July 20th, 2012 at 6:13 am
G123,
Colorado is beautiful. I do work in the Durango, Pagosa Springs area, and territory HQ’s are in Denver, and I go there about 3 times a year.
Definitely would consider living there.
July 20th, 2012 at 6:16 am
Not trying to do the blame game thing, but why is an infant at a midnight showing of a movie?
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Not the only kid. I heard that there was a six year old as well. They probably didn’t have a babysitter, and really wanted to see the movie. It’s a PG-13 so some people think if the child isn’t old enough, he or she isn’t really watching anyway. It’s just lights and noise. Still exposing that kind of decibels of sound to a 3 mo old should be illegal.
But regardless, the sin of taking a small child or infant to the movies at midnight is a trivial issue compared to the horrible crime.
July 20th, 2012 at 6:18 am
Colorado is beautiful. I do work in the Durango, Pagosa Springs area, and territory HQ’s are in Denver, and I go there about 3 times a year.
Definitely would consider living there.
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Me too. I’d move back if there was an opportunity. I messed up my knee bad the last time I ever skied in Telluride. I hate the fact I never got back on the slope after I tore my meniscus. Durango is beautiful country with all the western wear and western culture. 4 corners area is on my short list of potential retirement spots.
July 20th, 2012 at 6:19 am
But regardless, the sin of taking a small child or infant to the movies at midnight is a trivial issue compared to the horrible crime.
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Absolutely.
I honestly have never seen an infant in ANY movie theater, so it really jumped out to me that there was one at a midnight showing.
Those young parents will be tortured for life.
July 20th, 2012 at 6:20 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 6:12 am
Heard there was an infant shot.
Not trying to do the blame game thing, but why is an infant at a midnight showing of a movie?
I was wondering the same thing! But you’re right, Guest! It is trivial compared to the actual crime!
July 20th, 2012 at 6:24 am
Now they are correcting the earlier report. Thankfully the 3 mo old baby was NOT SHOT and is being released from the hospital.
July 20th, 2012 at 6:25 am
Paris has cancelled the Batman movie premiere.
July 20th, 2012 at 6:32 am
Morning Raider fans. One ONE WEEK left until training camp! The long wait is almost over
July 20th, 2012 at 6:33 am
Why would anyone do this. I can’t begin to get inside the physhcology of understanding this madman.
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What’s to know ?
Almost everytime you hear about a senseless slaughter like this, it’s the work of a mentally deranged/psychotic dirtbag or an Islamic extremist.
Not many exceptions to this general rule.
Prayers and condolences to the victims and their loved ones.
July 20th, 2012 at 6:35 am
HWNRDR,VERY SLIM CHANCE I MAKE THE CELEBRATION.HAD NOT PLANNED ON ATTENDING COWBOY GAME THAT MONDAY BUT NOW WILL BE.SO I WILL BE GETTING MY CHORES DONE SO I CAN BE THERE THE FOLLOWING AFTERNOON/EVENING..
July 20th, 2012 at 6:36 am
guest123 Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 6:24 am
Now they are correcting the earlier report. Thankfully the 3 mo old baby was NOT SHOT and is being released from the hospital.
Oh thank God!
July 20th, 2012 at 6:37 am
I would imagine quite a few theaters are going to be cancelling their planned premiers.
July 20th, 2012 at 6:37 am
I can’t begin to get inside the psychology of understanding this madman
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That’s a good thing. It’s gotta be a dark and twisted place
July 20th, 2012 at 6:38 am
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 6:35 am
HWNRDR,VERY SLIM CHANCE I MAKE THE CELEBRATION.HAD NOT PLANNED ON ATTENDING COWBOY GAME THAT MONDAY BUT NOW WILL BE.SO I WILL BE GETTING MY CHORES DONE SO I CAN BE THERE THE FOLLOWING AFTERNOON/EVENING..
No Problem Dirt Lot! I originally planned on going to the Dallas game, then kind of changed my mind because I have to take some time off to do so. Then my friends say they want to go, so…taking off 3 hours early from work to get there by 1. I think gates open at Noon right?
July 20th, 2012 at 6:41 am
NOT SURE.IF GAME-TIME IS 7PM,GATES SHOULD OPEN 2-ISH I THINK..
July 20th, 2012 at 6:43 am
GAME-TIME IS 5.. UR CORRECT.
July 20th, 2012 at 6:45 am
If this sicko wanted his 15 minutes of fame, why couldn’t he go out and kill some like Sandusky and do us all a favor? Wouldn’t change his situation, but at least his death would have some meaning.
July 20th, 2012 at 7:28 am
Really????
Some dude dressed up like the villian in the batman movie and acted out the scene on the theatre????
SMH!!!
Time to go back to wild west days and everyone walk around with heat on your hip.
July 20th, 2012 at 7:30 am
Little bit surprising that this psycho was apprehended.
They usually have to be shot dead like a rabid dog or off themselves.
July 20th, 2012 at 7:32 am
Won’t be long before we got pics of him, facebook postings and all that stuff, and soon enough someone will try to turn this horrific situation into an opportunity to make some type of political stance.
July 20th, 2012 at 7:40 am
A Raider fan calls his buddy to get the results of the latest game.
He asks ‘How’d the Raiders do today ?
His friend replies ‘They scored 72 points!’
After thinking it over for a few seconds the caller asks ‘Did they win ?’
July 20th, 2012 at 7:41 am
Re LB crew….
We had Quentin Groves starting at OLB
We had Mike Mitchell playing nickel LB
55 played hurt at least half the season
DC and scheme called for Wimbley to cover Gates one on one and 55 covering Megatron 30 yds downfield.
EASILY the unit that WILL show the most improvement this season!
July 20th, 2012 at 7:50 am
Not that I don’t want to be optimistic about the LB crew…
But what about our influx of free agents/draft picks gives us immediate improvement or immunity from being decimated by injury? I don’t see any reason to think it will EASILY be the unit with the most improvement. A lot of things have to happen to expect improvement.
July 20th, 2012 at 7:54 am
Time to go back to wild west days and everyone walk around with heat on your hip
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@Jhill
thats why Podunkers conceal & carry. I guarantee you if some D-Bag walked into our church and tried to shoot up the place there would be at least 50 people gunning for him and he’d die before he got within 10 feet of the pastor
July 20th, 2012 at 7:54 am
139. Really? Because ive NEVER been to a movie at any time of day where some azzhole didnt bring a fking baby…
July 20th, 2012 at 7:57 am
Damn, MH….
It’s not the baby’s fault, lol.
July 20th, 2012 at 7:57 am
It should be leagal to taze or cattle prod shltheads that bring babies to a theater for an adult show..
July 20th, 2012 at 7:59 am
RRS,
I guess I could live in Podunk.
Wifey and I don’t F around mayne!
July 20th, 2012 at 8:00 am
http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_21118201/unknown-number-people-shot-at-aurora-movie-theater
Now it looks as if there was an accomplice. Maybe.
During the opening credits, someone saw someone answer the phone and walk to the emergency door of the theater.
July 20th, 2012 at 8:01 am
Or all 300 people at the movie can take their wasted 20 dollars out of thouse parents car. With a sledg hammer…
July 20th, 2012 at 8:02 am
Re LB crew….
We had Quentin Groves starting at OLB
We had Mike Mitchell playing nickel LB
55 played hurt at least half the season
DC and scheme called for Wimbley to cover Gates one on one and 55 covering Megatron 30 yds downfield.
EASILY the unit that WILL show the most improvement this season!
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@Jhill
you’re money today. on fire this friday!
couldn’t agree more. McClain can’t be any worse than we’ve seen the past 2 seasons. Especially if he’s healthy and he’s got a chip on his shoulder after being placed on the “watch list” from these off-field issues. this offseason, Wheeler said he’s fast as lightning flying around the field. Burris gave him props for helping him along, learn the new defense. McKenzie & Allen are high on him. We’ve yet to hear Tarver & Holland speak – right?
Still, the reviews this offseason have been mainly good … except Ausberry beat him in coverage at OTA’s. But Aus is a former WR, so who knows?
going into his 3rd year, he should start to see signs of a menacing MLB. If we see more of what we’ve seen the past 2 years I think he’s gonna get the axe next offseason. no scholarships.
by the way, Groves was quite possibly the WORST cover linebacker I’ve seen in Oakland. and Mitch as nickel lb was a mistake. Looked like a lost puppy. He’s a traditional head cracking SS with speed
July 20th, 2012 at 8:02 am
G123,
Can’t do anything to guarantee health.
That aside, Curry-55-Wheeler-Burris is a big upgrade over our top 4 guys last year. Goethel can’t be so jinxed that he’ll miss another season.
Also think the scheme will be MUCH more LB friendly.
July 20th, 2012 at 8:03 am
If its not premeditated, murder at the movies should be allowed..
July 20th, 2012 at 8:04 am
At this point in time you’re basically looking at the same starting LB crew that we ended the season with.
Except you’re substituting Wheels for Kam. Not sure that’s an upgrade at all.
You’re counting on Ronaldo to be better – based on improved health – and better scheming to account for any marked improvement.
Could happen.
July 20th, 2012 at 8:06 am
As a parent, I would never bring my young children to a movie theatre unless it was rated G or PG
thats just common sense.
if you cant find a babysitter? dont go!
kids require sacrifice. no big difference seeing a movie 3 days after it came out imo
you adjust YOUR life, not the kids man. take a friggin vacation day at work and see the flick during the day while your kid is in childcare if you have to.
it’s just a movie. in the grand scheme of things, meaningless
July 20th, 2012 at 8:07 am
going into his 3rd year, he should start to see signs of a menacing MLB
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I’m not looking for perfection. After years of underwhelming LB play, I’m thinking we will see solid, not spectacular, LB play.
Pro Bowl LBs?????
Don’t see that.
July 20th, 2012 at 8:08 am
Ive shouted “i hate your baby!’ In a crowded theater before.. And when they shhh me back I yell, ‘just shut the fukk up!!!’ its not a 1st date move…
July 20th, 2012 at 8:10 am
99,
How about a training camp for Curry?
How about having a LB like Wheeler on the field in nickel situations instead of Mitchell?
How about our depth being better?
And yes, 55 and Goethel being healthy will make a difference.
July 20th, 2012 at 8:12 am
I agree Rockstar! When my kids were little, I forgot what a movie theater looked like!
July 20th, 2012 at 8:12 am
For some reason, ppl around me think i’m the one who needs to sacrafice for their kids..
July 20th, 2012 at 8:14 am
LOL!
See what you’ve started MH!!!
ANY form of baby hate is uncalled for.
Totally understand the parent hate though, lol!
I even refuse to take the youngin to kiddie movies with her 7 year old sister. Don’t want the baby acting a fool during Madagascar 3, lol!
July 20th, 2012 at 8:14 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 8:06 am
As a parent, I would never bring my young children to a movie theatre unless it was rated G or PG
thats just common sense.
if you cant find a babysitter? dont go!
kids require sacrifice. no big difference seeing a movie 3 days after it came out imo
you adjust YOUR life, not the kids man. take a friggin vacation day at work and see the flick during the day while your kid is in childcare if you have to.
it’s just a movie. in the grand scheme of things, meaningless
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co-sign! all of it!
July 20th, 2012 at 8:15 am
When my kids were little, I forgot what a movie theater looked like!
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I still remember, except it’s only Pixar movies now.
sigh
July 20th, 2012 at 8:17 am
If this crazy didnt shoot up a theater, you might have read about me giving one of these screaming kids a bain/batman style backbreaker on stage in front of the crowd..
July 20th, 2012 at 8:19 am
What’s next, metal detector tunnels to pass thru as they rip your ticket in half? Is the TSA going to have a subagency for movie theaters? Let’s face it, we can’t control crazy.
July 20th, 2012 at 8:20 am
I have a dark sense of humor…
July 20th, 2012 at 8:20 am
you might have read about me giving one of these screaming kids a bain/batman style backbreaker on stage in front of the crowd..
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And then you would have read about some crazy child abuser getting mauled by a herd of outraged parents!
July 20th, 2012 at 8:21 am
When my kids were little, I forgot what a movie theater looked like!
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@Hwnrdr & G123
My son is 20 months old and since he’s been born we’ve probably seen 2 movies in the theatre. Had my in-laws watch baby Rockstar.
when my wife & I do our Christmas shopping, we send him to the babysitter like a normal workday at 730am and pick him up around 530pm. he doesn’t know the difference and he’s safe. we get to enjoy the day and actually get something accomplished
parenting requires planning imo
July 20th, 2012 at 8:22 am
No way a 3 month old should have been in that theatre.
July 20th, 2012 at 8:24 am
Curry’s already gone through camps before.
They’ll ALL be going through DA and Tarver’s first camp.
They’ll all have to learn a new scheme and probably terminology.
How about the subtraction of Kam’s pressures and sacks ?
McLame might be healthier, that’s not a given. Unrealistic to expect the LB crew to NOT have some injuries.
Plus Ronaldo might miss time due to his legal problems or a suspension.
Depth better ? Maybe. If you want to count on Burris and Stupar being immediate contributors.
July 20th, 2012 at 8:25 am
MSNBC is reporting the shooter was in Medical School. Had dropped out last month. The police and fire department are at the shooters apartment. It is booby trapped. They are removing the windows from the fire truck cranes. What a nut!
July 20th, 2012 at 8:25 am
1082. Totally worth it..
July 20th, 2012 at 8:29 am
1085. I agree.. The lbs, and the d as a whole could be just as bad as last yr. But we are under the cap. And our cap #s will be even better the next 2 yrs..
July 20th, 2012 at 8:29 am
I’m not looking for perfection. After years of underwhelming LB play, I’m thinking we will see solid, not spectacular, LB play.
Pro Bowl LBs?????
Don’t see that.
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@Jhill
McClain going from awful to average isn’t acceptable to me. We already had Kirk Morrison at MLB who was set to make a modest $2.5 million. We drafted a guy who was supposed to be an upgrade and fill the MLB spot for 5-10 years. If he doesn’t start to show signs of the player we thought we were getting, he WILL be ousted. You dont give a player $40 million and expect these results:
QUENTIN CORYATT, 1992, 2nd overall pick
TOM COUSINEAU, 1979, 1st overall
BRIAN BOSWORTH, 1987 (supplemental), first round
WAYMOND BRYANT, 1974, 4th overall
MIKE JUNKIN, 1987, 5th overall pick
VERNON GHOLSTON, 2008, 6th overall pick
July 20th, 2012 at 8:32 am
Kenny Britt arrested for DUI
anybody surprised ??
July 20th, 2012 at 8:33 am
Mclain being a Raider has zero to do with if he was awful or will improve to average. As long as he carries an accelerated cap hit, he’s a Raider. Even if it means carrying him on the bench or inactive. One day, maybe even next year, he’ll be exiled like Jamarcus. He’s another outta wack contract.
July 20th, 2012 at 8:33 am
OK, RRS.
We know how you and 99 feel abot 55.
I’ll be happy with 55 being a solid contributor. Doesn’t have to end up in the HOF for me to appreciate his contributions to the team.
July 20th, 2012 at 8:34 am
Nope. Nfl players need fulltime jobs
July 20th, 2012 at 8:35 am
Kenny Britt arrested for DUI
anybody surprised ??
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nope, the 60 day waiting period is a bad thing. I think I put the over/under at 3 a few days ago. This makes two DUIs since then in about 3 days. I think we are going to hit the over on arrests.
July 20th, 2012 at 8:35 am
Kendrick Perkins has surgery on his wrist, groin
Ryan Hollins agrees to deal with Clippers
Blazers waive Dan Gadzuric
July 20th, 2012 at 8:37 am
McCheese is a POS turd and I can’t wait till they run his sorry arse off the team. Sands of the hourglass.
July 20th, 2012 at 8:37 am
From Jason Lloyd of the Akron Beacon-Journal.
Andrew Bynum’s agent, David Lee, told me he has had zero conversations with #Cavs GM Chris Grant about a possible trade. “I would imagine any team involved in this trade would be smart enough to talk to us,” Lee said, referring to the fact Bynum is entering the final year of his deal.
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/19/andrew-bynums-agent-says-he-has-not-spoken-to-cavaliers-yet/
July 20th, 2012 at 8:37 am
The magic, rockets and cavs are being real shltpipes..
July 20th, 2012 at 8:37 am
“Kenny Britt arrested for DUI
anybody surprised ??”
Not me I knew in the 80’s when they made such a big deal about it that pretty soon everyone would be a criminal. Doctors, lawyers, judges, congressmen etc.
That’s why I support DAMM (drunks against mad mothers)
July 20th, 2012 at 8:38 am
Puhleez. Try to refrain from mentioning the HOF and Ronaldo in the same sentence.
Hall of shame, maybe
July 20th, 2012 at 8:38 am
a story by Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo highlights why this trade is not just going to snap together overnight.
“Cleveland will only do the deal if Bynum extends,” a league official directly involved in the talks told Yahoo! Sports.
Los Angeles wants the structure of a three-team deal agreed in principle before letting Cleveland take that next step to communicate with Bynum and his representatives – and that won’t happen until Orlando makes a decision that it wants to also lock-in the framework of a trade, sources told Y!
So far, Orlando has shown a level of indecisiveness in the talks, sources involved in the negotiations said.
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/19/report-bynum-extension-in-cleveland-shows-challenges-of-howard-trade/
July 20th, 2012 at 8:39 am
It makes no sense for Bynum or Howard to sign an extension with whatever team they end up on.
IDK why people dont get this.
July 20th, 2012 at 8:40 am
Does every vet 7 footer in the nba due at least 10 mil a yr? Even humfries got overpaid..
July 20th, 2012 at 8:41 am
CNN is reporting that US Military troops were part of the casualties.
July 20th, 2012 at 8:41 am
Marks hair Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 8:40 am
Does every vet 7 footer in the nba due at least 10 mil a yr? Even humfries got overpaid..
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Well he’s not 7ft & is a PF, but ya I get your point.
And yes. Most of them do.
July 20th, 2012 at 8:43 am
Paterno statue to come down this weekend.
July 20th, 2012 at 8:43 am
McCheese is a POS turd and I can’t wait till they run his sorry arse off the team. Sands of the hourglass.
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Already putting my eyeballs on some college Studs to replace.
July 20th, 2012 at 8:43 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 8:21 am
When my kids were little, I forgot what a movie theater looked like!
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@Hwnrdr & G123
My son is 20 months old and since he’s been born we’ve probably seen 2 movies in the theatre. Had my in-laws watch baby Rockstar.
when my wife & I do our Christmas shopping, we send him to the babysitter like a normal workday at 730am and pick him up around 530pm. he doesn’t know the difference and he’s safe. we get to enjoy the day and actually get something accomplished
parenting requires planning imo
I hear ya Rockstar! Unfortunately, when my wife’s sister moved back home, there went any family within a 20 mile radius! My son is going on 10 now and he’s ok with staying home with someone else there to watch him but my daughter is too clingy! She won’t stay with anyone but me or mommy!
July 20th, 2012 at 8:45 am
I get it dav.. Its a giant max deal vs a 2 or 3 yr extension.. But you should still call the and see if he’ll resign once he becomes a fa.. Bynum wont pass on the money. But howad has such big endorsment promises, he might walk away from a small city..
July 20th, 2012 at 8:47 am
Mclain being a Raider has zero to do with if he was awful or will improve to average. As long as he carries an accelerated cap hit, he’s a Raider. Even if it means carrying him on the bench or inactive. One day, maybe even next year, he’ll be exiled like Jamarcus. He’s another outta wack contract.
McCheese is a POS turd and I can’t wait till they run his sorry arse off the team. Sands of the hourglass.
Puhleez. Try to refrain from mentioning the HOF and Ronaldo in the same sentence.
Hall of shame, maybe
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Fellas,
2010 & 2011 were putrid for McBosworth. Like I said, he has nowhere to go but up. If he gets in more trouble off the field or re-injured , I think it’s safe to say he’s done.
If he stays clean, works hard and improves his game I’ve got no issue with him being a Raider. It’s not personal. I think he’s got potential, but we just haven’t seen it yet. Year 3 potential should translate into production. If it doesn’t, Reggie will take whatever cap hit necessary to be rid of him. Reggie & Dennis know the importance of a standout MLB, the captain of the defense. You need to win games because of that guy, not dispite him. He has to become an asset rather than a liability …
July 20th, 2012 at 8:47 am
Marks hair Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 8:45 am
I get it dav.. Its a giant max deal vs a 2 or 3 yr extension.. But you should still call the and see if he’ll resign once he becomes a fa.. Bynum wont pass on the money. But howad has such big endorsment promises, he might walk away from a small city..
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For sure.
Although im not sure Howard knows what he wants to do in 5 minutes, let alone a year.
July 20th, 2012 at 8:47 am
1106. Its about time.. Fk paterno.
July 20th, 2012 at 8:49 am
1111. I know, he’s such a spacecadet…
July 20th, 2012 at 8:49 am
Also, last night I read that the Nets were close to a deal with Kirilenko.
That would be HUGE for them.
AK47 is a shutdown wing defender.
July 20th, 2012 at 8:49 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 8:43 am
Paterno statue to come down this weekend.
Penn State really has to move on and wipe their hands clean from all of this! Good move for them!
July 20th, 2012 at 8:50 am
I would think Reggie’s got a good EYE for linebacker talent, considering he used to be one.
July 20th, 2012 at 8:51 am
theghostronin79 Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 8:43 am
McCheese is a POS turd and I can’t wait till they run his sorry arse off the team. Sands of the hourglass.
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Already putting my eyeballs on some college Studs to replace.
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Just thinking back to how I posted my “solid contributor” propoganda on DHB each offseason, lol.
Kept hearing how he was garbage and would be cut.
55 isn’t going anywhere.
July 20th, 2012 at 8:51 am
Mcbosworth…Ha
July 20th, 2012 at 8:53 am
If he stays clean, works hard and improves his game I’ve got no issue with him being a Raider. It’s not personal. I think he’s got potential, but we just haven’t seen it yet. Year 3 potential should translate into production. If it doesn’t, Reggie will take whatever cap hit necessary to be rid of him. Reggie & Dennis know the importance of a standout MLB, the captain of the defense. You need to win games because of that guy, not dispite him. He has to become an asset rather than a liability …
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@ Rockstar,
I trust Reggie on the Slomac issue. Really I’m willing to defer to his knowledge of the problem and how it needs to be corrected. But if we go into the season with this guy as our starting MLB, I have dim hopes for our defense to improve. I don’t believe in his ability or talent or whatever it was that made him a top draft pick. If he proves me wrong, I guess I’ll be happy about it, but maybe it’s a little personal that I kinda hope he fails. He’s not a good sort, and I’m guessing he’s never going to turn it around.
zero eggs in that basket.
July 20th, 2012 at 8:54 am
AK47 to the Nets would be a HUGE move.
Agree 100%.
Russian president speak directly with him you think?
Promised his wife a cabinet post or something?
July 20th, 2012 at 8:54 am
I would think Reggie’s got a good EYE for linebacker talent, considering he used to be one.
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79,
he brought in Wheeler, gave Curry an extension and kept Goethel on the team. drafted Burris & Stupar.
Even if his hands were tied with #55 , we should be able to find out rather quickly if what you’ve stated (above) is true
July 20th, 2012 at 8:55 am
Kenny Britt has 9 arrests since he came into the NFL.
Let that sink in.
July 20th, 2012 at 8:55 am
last night I read that the Nets were close to a deal with Kirilenko.
That would be HUGE for them.
AK47 is a shutdown wing defender
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agreed, as a Heat fan I strongly dislike!!
July 20th, 2012 at 8:56 am
Kept hearing how he was garbage and would be cut.
55 isn’t going anywhere.
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The only difference with me personally, was that I always liked DHB; his attitude and work ethic. Always backed that kid.
Romac kinda turned me off with his cold shoulder to media and percieved arrogance (that wasn’t backed up on the field). Then this whole “Thug” behavior in Alabama has soured me completely. I’m having a real hard time supporting him now. It’s a giant leap from a DUI Imo.
July 20th, 2012 at 8:56 am
J Hill Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 8:54 am
AK47 to the Nets would be a HUGE move.
Agree 100%.
Russian president speak directly with him you think?
Promised his wife a cabinet post or something?
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LOL.
July 20th, 2012 at 8:57 am
Kenny Britt has 9 arrests since he came into the NFL.
Let that sink in.
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@DAV
who are we to judge him? he had a hard life growing up
he’s just misunderstood.
**** sorry, I tried my best to type all that without laughing !! ****
July 20th, 2012 at 8:57 am
Even if his hands were tied with #55 , we should be able to find out rather quickly if what you’ve stated (above) is true
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That’s all I’m sayin. No matter what happens, keep him / cut him, draft another….. I put faith in RM and believe he knows what he’s doing.
July 20th, 2012 at 8:59 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 8:57 am
Kenny Britt has 9 arrests since he came into the NFL.
Let that sink in.
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@DAV
who are we to judge him? he had a hard life growing up
he’s just misunderstood.
**** sorry, I tried my best to type all that without laughing !! ****
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LOL.
Reminds me on “Liar, Liar” when Jim Carrey yells at the guy.. “Stop breaking the law a**hole!!!”
July 20th, 2012 at 9:00 am
I trust Reggie on the Slomac issue. Really I’m willing to defer to his knowledge of the problem and how it needs to be corrected. But if we go into the season with this guy as our starting MLB, I have dim hopes for our defense to improve.
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LOL!
So you really don’t trust The Reggime on the 55 issue.
July 20th, 2012 at 9:01 am
1124.
79, I feel exactly the same way. Though I don’t think of DHB’s DUI as a minor thing. I’m very disappointed with him and it’s completely out of character. But Romac is completely within character acting a fool in his home state of Alabama.
July 20th, 2012 at 9:02 am
Romac kinda turned me off with his cold shoulder to media
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Yeah I get that.
That move didn’t play well with a lot of Raider fans.
July 20th, 2012 at 9:03 am
@Jhill
I just dont agree with your stance on McClain just having to contribute SOMETHING/ANYTHING to the team .. when you get a contract for $40 million as a Top 10 draft pick and you’re position requires leadership, you have to make the guys around you better. you have to rally the troops. you have to make plays. be the example.
average isn’t good enough imo. If he was a 3rd or 4th rounder going into Year #3 making peanuts and had no off-field issues or injury concerns … nobody would say 1 bad word about Rolando World Peace
July 20th, 2012 at 9:03 am
“Kenny Britt has 9 arrests since he came into the NFL.
Let that sink in.
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If that were you or I we would have lost our job after the first arrest!
I just don’t get it.
July 20th, 2012 at 9:04 am
Yeah Guest, I’m not minimizing a DUI, just saying that it’s more bad judgment and irresponsiblility than outright Gansta behavior.
July 20th, 2012 at 9:05 am
Reminds me on “Liar, Liar” when Jim Carrey yells at the guy..
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love that movie, DAV!
one of Carrey’s top 5 movies imo
July 20th, 2012 at 9:05 am
Even though Raider fans are thought of by many in the media as “crazy” with the Darth Raider and other wild getups, I don’t relate to the crazy smile of McClain on his arrest. That’s reality crazy. The kind of crazy I expect to see when I think of movie theatre massacres. That’s the kind of crazy that needs to be slapped upside the head and thrown out the door. I’m not down with THAT kind of crazy.
July 20th, 2012 at 9:09 am
All I have to say about 55 and his off the field immaturity is sometimes you have to give kids a chance to mature.
Strictly speaking off the field, Ray Lewis got a chance to mature and llok how he turned out.
He overcame MURDERS, a bloody suit that was never found, and actual charges related to all that.
Britt and all his antics??? I’ve seen several posts saying we should have taken him over DHB.
Give OUR kids a chance to grow up!
July 20th, 2012 at 9:10 am
here’s the sad truth about McClain. wins cure everything
Reggie & Dennis know this …
if the Raiders start winning games and McClain does his job, Raider fans will support him even if he goes snub the media or have off-field issues
i’m a conservative christian republican guy. most would think i’m the MOST judgemental guy in here.
But as a Raider fan, all I want to see is production.
Just Win, Baby!
July 20th, 2012 at 9:11 am
http://ow.ly/i/MJW0
Here’s your crazy Colorado killer. I don’t see a whole lot of difference in expression from Romac.
July 20th, 2012 at 9:13 am
The shooter was a PhD candidate in neuroscience at the University of Colorado.
He was in the process of withdrawing.
July 20th, 2012 at 9:13 am
6 patients taken in to the children’s hospital. 1 died. “2 or 3 will be released today in “good” condition” this according to a doctor at the children’s hospital.
July 20th, 2012 at 9:14 am
@Jhill
big difference in terms of McClain vs. Lewis
Lewis was drafted in ‘96 and got busted in Jan 2010.
when he got busted, Lewis had already chalked up 4 Pro Bowl seasons … not 2 pathetic ones
production matters!!
July 20th, 2012 at 9:15 am
rr ghost j guest dav whats up fellas n good morning
July 20th, 2012 at 9:15 am
when you get a contract for $40 million as a Top 10 draft pick and you’re position requires leadership, you have to make the guys around you better. you have to rally the troops. you have to make plays. be the example.
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I agree with that.
We differ in opinion on what he’s done for the team. And not making the Pro Bowl or being a solid contributor does not mean he is avg. Was Beikert a pro bowler? He was certainly most of the things you described. If 55 gives us Biekert like performance, I’m cool with that. If The Reggime can find an undrafted LB to do the same thing, I have no problem trading 55 and moving on.
July 20th, 2012 at 9:17 am
here’s the sad truth about McClain. wins cure everything
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I agree that winning would change alot. We could win the SB and I still won’t like Romac unless he shows me something…..Remorse, reflection, attitude shift, and actual repentance from that behavior. He’s not beyond redemption, but he’s gotta earn it. It’s gonna take more than sacks and tackles for loss Imo….
July 20th, 2012 at 9:17 am
mcskinnnylegs Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 9:15 am
rr ghost j guest dav whats up fellas n good morning
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Its a good morning to be alive.
July 20th, 2012 at 9:17 am
Mornin Skinny…..Just BS-ing
July 20th, 2012 at 9:19 am
whats the topic 55?
July 20th, 2012 at 9:19 am
@Jhill
Greg Biekert’s dont grow on trees.
I wish Reggie could find a 10-year starter at MLB from the trash heap of undrafted players !!
July 20th, 2012 at 9:19 am
At the moment yeah
July 20th, 2012 at 9:20 am
I hate no news. Just a big bunch of nothin’ !!
July 20th, 2012 at 9:20 am
good morning mcskinnny !!
July 20th, 2012 at 9:21 am
no news is good news, during the offseason.
I’m sure the Seahawks & Titans would have loved “no news” this past week !!
July 20th, 2012 at 9:23 am
Romac kinda turned me off with his cold shoulder to media
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Yeah I get that.
That move didn’t play well with a lot of Raider fans.
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Ronaldo snubbing the media doesn’t bother me one iota.
I actually think it’s kind of funny when Corky tries to snuggle up to Ronaldo by saying stuff like ‘he’s thoughtful and interesting and I wish he’d speak more often’ – only to have Slow continually snub him.
Screw the media.
That said, Ronaldo has been reported as being dismissive and uncooperatve with fans.
Not cool, but has no real bearing on my distaste for Slow.
I first really soured on Ronaldo after the Jog in Buffalo. That really disgusted me and I blasted RoMac.
Was willing to let that go as long as he hustled the rest of the way.
Gave him credit for manning up after he tweaked his ankle in Houston.
Then came the Funeral Fiasco and you’ve got be wondering WTF is going on with this guy.
Then the Whiff.
Any disgust expressed for Ronaldo is well deserved.
Jogging, Whiffing, Deserting his teammates to play thug – I’d say Ronaldo is lucky he doesn’t get MORE heat from The Nation.
July 20th, 2012 at 9:23 am
gd morning mcskinny
July 20th, 2012 at 9:26 am
ive never been so excited to draft someone only to be let down this badly
July 20th, 2012 at 9:26 am
American Guns & Senseless Violence.
July 20th, 2012 at 9:27 am
@ the time i thought it was a great pick
July 20th, 2012 at 9:27 am
Same here Skinny
July 20th, 2012 at 9:27 am
Guns didn’t do it, a crazy person did.
July 20th, 2012 at 9:27 am
Funeral and 1 missed tackle?????
LMFAO 55.
What about all the plays he DID make against Detroit?
What about him being one of the only players to show up for the season ender????
July 20th, 2012 at 9:28 am
Jogging, Whiffing, Deserting his teammates to play thug – I’d say Ronaldo is lucky he doesn’t get MORE heat from The Nation.
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@RM99
guys like Jhill & JFB are keeping him on life support with the Raider Nation imo
they are waiting for him to wake from his coma
perhaps they just finished watching the movie Face/Off when Caster Troy (Nicholas Cage) wakes up and wreaks havoc ??
July 20th, 2012 at 9:30 am
What about him being one of the only players to show up for the season ender????
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@Jhill
Bush & Ford didn’t!
July 20th, 2012 at 9:30 am
i did hear he was playing injured last year not sure if that is true
July 20th, 2012 at 9:31 am
You People,
Keep your kids at home unless the movie is rated G/ PG. I pay good money to watch the movie, but I don’t want to hear you talking or your kids yelling.
Maybe this will teach you to leave your kids at home. Disgusting!!
MH has every right to be mad. I would too, and that’s why I stopped going. I try to avoid you people as much as possible. lol
July 20th, 2012 at 9:32 am
i’ll bet d.a will have a very short leash for 55
July 20th, 2012 at 9:33 am
cant wait to see burris u guys watch the tape on that kid
July 20th, 2012 at 9:33 am
Ronaldo snubbing the media doesn’t bother me one iota.
I actually think it’s kind of funny when Corky tries to snuggle up to Ronaldo by saying stuff like ‘he’s thoughtful and interesting and I wish he’d speak more often’ – only to have Slow continually snub him.
Screw the media.
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I’m not always a fan of the media, myself, but they are our pipeline to the players and team, so you can’t just say screw the media. The media is the very reason we even have this blog.
And his snubbing if the media was just a glimpse or sign of what was to come. A guy that continually snubs the media doesn’t care for the fans, and he later showed that, as you stated.
Rolando is a clown and he’s got some cleaning up to do. Body slams just don’t cut it.
July 20th, 2012 at 9:33 am
RR is right too. Having kids requires sacrifice and planning.
July 20th, 2012 at 9:35 am
Raiderbuck Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 9:27 am
Guns didn’t do it, a crazy person did.
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Yeah a crazy person with a schit load of guns
July 20th, 2012 at 9:35 am
“Jogging, Whiffing, Deserting his teammates to play thug – I’d say Ronaldo is lucky he doesn’t get MORE heat from The Nation.”
So true!!!!!
July 20th, 2012 at 9:35 am
i’ll bet d.a will have a very short leash for 55
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I want to see his face when Reggie yanks that leash.
July 20th, 2012 at 9:36 am
They should charge those parents with something like endangering the welfare of a minor/ child.
July 20th, 2012 at 9:36 am
You people make me sick, all you fockers can talk about is blaming the mother of the kid
July 20th, 2012 at 9:37 am
guest123 Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 9:35 am
i’ll bet d.a will have a very short leash for 55
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I want to see his face when Reggie yanks that leash.
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and replaces him with the younger burris
July 20th, 2012 at 9:37 am
They should charge those parents with something like endangering the welfare of a minor/ child.
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Come on!?! What kind of a nazi facist state you want us to live in?
July 20th, 2012 at 9:38 am
Raiderbuck Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 9:27 am
Guns didn’t do it, a crazy person did.
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While you are right, guns empowered an otherwise weak little reject that wouldn’t have done squat without them.
July 20th, 2012 at 9:38 am
I want to see his face when Reggie yanks that leash.
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@G123
McClain got paid, just like JaWalrus. he may not give a crap if he rides the pine.
Like Jason Campbell & Mike Bush, he may be comfortable being a backup player for another team next season.
July 20th, 2012 at 9:38 am
Guns don’t kill people.
People kill people!
July 20th, 2012 at 9:38 am
wtf is with all the kids n movie talk lol gotta love the blog
July 20th, 2012 at 9:39 am
As the QB of the defense, 55 should be held accountable and take the brunt of the wrath for a defense that was beyond pathetic.
Al Davis
Chuck B
Seymour
55
Branch
Top 5 culprits for a terrible D last year.
THIS year will be different starting with the HC and DC.
July 20th, 2012 at 9:39 am
Raider O Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 9:36 am
They should charge those parents with something like endangering the welfare of a minor/ child.
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Why? Because you never know when somebody is going to come into a movie theater and start shooting with assault weapons? Sickening.
July 20th, 2012 at 9:39 am
Thing since the Nation has #55 on lifesupport, Burris is the great white hope at MLB. At least that’s how its developing.
July 20th, 2012 at 9:39 am
You people make me sick
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Kell with a “you people” comment ??
nice!!
hopefully he was referring to Marks Hair, who should never reproduce.
July 20th, 2012 at 9:39 am
Guest123 Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 9:37 am
They should charge those parents with something like endangering the welfare of a minor/ child.
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Come on!?! What kind of a nazi facist state you want us to live in?
$$$$$$$$$$$$
CA!!!
lol
July 20th, 2012 at 9:40 am
rr yea i never got that both didnt want to be backups here but they took the same jobs elsewhere
July 20th, 2012 at 9:40 am
McClain got paid, just like JaWalrus. he may not give a crap if he rides the pine.
Like Jason Campbell & Mike Bush, he may be comfortable being a backup player for another team next season.
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Don’t care what he does next season, as long is he’s NOT wearing the SILVER & BLACK!!
July 20th, 2012 at 9:41 am
lol raiders defense gave up 58 1st downs on penalties alone
July 20th, 2012 at 9:41 am
KoolKell Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 9:39 am
Raider O Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 9:36 am
They should charge those parents with something like endangering the welfare of a minor/ child.
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Why? Because you never know when somebody is going to come into a movie theater and start shooting with assault weapons? Sickening.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
No!! Because it’s unhealthy for a kid to be in that environment. It’s late, and it’s movie for adults!
July 20th, 2012 at 9:41 am
Burris is the great white hope
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LOL @ G123
well said.
problem is, we havent seen enough of him yet to determine whther he’s going to be in the mold of Brian Urlacher or Ricky Brown
July 20th, 2012 at 9:42 am
I’m pretty sure a gunman opening fire on several movie goers is a bigger story than a rather ignorant mother who took her baby to a midnight movie. Just saying.
July 20th, 2012 at 9:42 am
g123 u c the tape of burris high motor player unlke 55
July 20th, 2012 at 9:42 am
Some of you people should not have kids!
July 20th, 2012 at 9:43 am
ricky brown wtf lmao
July 20th, 2012 at 9:43 am
Raider O Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 9:38 am
Guns don’t kill people.
People kill people!
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Worn out, tired slogan.
July 20th, 2012 at 9:43 am
KoolKell Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 9:35 am
Raiderbuck Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 9:27 am
Guns didn’t do it, a crazy person did.
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Yeah a crazy person with a schit load of guns
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You’re equating the guns with the crazy person. I have a lot of guns, but I’ll never do anything but hunt game with them. I’m not crazy therefore they are of no consequence. Crazy person doesn’t need guns to kill people.
July 20th, 2012 at 9:43 am
TV report outta Denver had a man weeping, in bad shape confirmed the death of his 7 yo daughter. Divorced wife took his kid to the movie.
July 20th, 2012 at 9:44 am
Funeral and 1 missed tackle?????
LMFAO 55.
What about all the plays he DID make against Detroit?
What about him being one of the only players to show up for the season ender????
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He’s SUPPOSED to make plays.
He was drafted 8th overall and is getting paid millions.
He’s NOT SUPPOSED to Whiff on an easy GAME CLINCHING tackle when the SEASON IS ON THE LINE.
He’s NOT SUPPOSED to JOG and QUIT on any play.
He’s NOT SUPPOSED to be excused from the team for an ENTIRE WEEK to attend a funeral, only to be busted under the most moronic circumstances.
Even if Slow performed BETTER than he has, he’d still be on notice for the instances where he fk’d up royally.
July 20th, 2012 at 9:44 am
link to the story fellas?
July 20th, 2012 at 9:44 am
People never killed other with bombs, knives, swords, etc….. Only guns?!?!
You people……
July 20th, 2012 at 9:45 am
Raider O Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 9:42 am
Some of you people should not have kids!
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Some of you terrorist, should should be hung
July 20th, 2012 at 9:45 am
was 55 injured or not last year does anyone know the truth
July 20th, 2012 at 9:46 am
u c the tape of burris high motor player unlke 55
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@ mcskinny,
Burris sure looks active in the tape, but its not against top schools. I want to believe in the great white hope though.
July 20th, 2012 at 9:46 am
Al Davis
Chuck B
Seymour
55
Branch
Top 5 culprits for a terrible D last year.
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@Jhill
couldn’t agree more!!
Kelly, Houston, Bryant, Curry, Huff, Routt, Wimbley & Sheppard = honorable mention ??
July 20th, 2012 at 9:46 am
KoolKell Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 9:43 am
Raider O Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 9:38 am
Guns don’t kill people.
People kill people!
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Worn out, tired slogan.
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ok how about this one……
guns kill people like spoons made Rosie O’donald fat !!
July 20th, 2012 at 9:47 am
why do we always have to get into some kind of political or civil rights debate wtf can we talk football
July 20th, 2012 at 9:47 am
Well, if you are so ignorant that you have to ask why a mother should not take her kid to an adult movie at midnight, then you are too ignorant to have kids.
July 20th, 2012 at 9:47 am
Here’s my issue…yeah ok, I understand some people especially younger parents want to see the movie….but…
at midnight? you couldn’t wait! You just have to think that the baby’s endangerment ALSO could have been avoided!
July 20th, 2012 at 9:48 am
R8ER MIKE Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 9:46 am
KoolKell Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 9:43 am
Raider O Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 9:38 am
Guns don’t kill people.
People kill people!
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Worn out, tired slogan.
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ok how about this one……
guns kill people like spoons made Rosie O’donald fat !!
LMAO! So that was Rosie’s issue? LOL…
July 20th, 2012 at 9:49 am
id say his school had more comp then uconn and we all love tyvon branch small school players can develop
July 20th, 2012 at 9:49 am
You just have to think that the baby’s endangerment ALSO could have been avoided!
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no doubt it’s also child endangerment. The movie theater reaches 50 DB at times, and that’s no place to take a 3 mo baby and their sensitive eardrums.
July 20th, 2012 at 9:49 am
KoolKell Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 9:45 am
Raider O Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 9:42 am
Some of you people should not have kids!
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Some of you terrorist, should should be hung
$$$$$$$$$$
A Blackman complaining about other minorities and crime?!?!
ROFLMAO
July 20th, 2012 at 9:49 am
why do we always have to get into some kind of political or civil rights debate
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@ mcskinnny
you’re right. maybe we should begin every comment with “WE THE PEOPLE …”
lol
July 20th, 2012 at 9:50 am
guest123 Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 9:49 am
You just have to think that the baby’s endangerment ALSO could have been avoided!
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no doubt it’s also child endangerment. The movie theater reaches 50 DB at times, and that’s no place to take a 3 mo baby and their sensitive eardrums.
THANK YOU!
July 20th, 2012 at 9:50 am
Rosie O’donald is fat?
I thought she was just big boned ??
July 20th, 2012 at 9:50 am
USA = The most violent country in the Western World. The most gun trotting country in the Western World. Mass shooting every damned week
July 20th, 2012 at 9:51 am
A gunman shooting 50+ people in a movie theater is a bigger story than a mother bringing a bay to a midnight movie.
July 20th, 2012 at 9:51 am
What’s next? KK is going to complain about other minorities and drugs?!
July 20th, 2012 at 9:51 am
bay = baby
July 20th, 2012 at 9:52 am
Guns ,Explosives, Gas Masks…………..Middle East?
July 20th, 2012 at 9:52 am
DJ Sully Fresh is back!
Hey DJ I have been expecting a call from the FBI I thought you had some connections with them you were going to sick them on me for emailing you what happened?
Maybe your just as gay as Edgar Hoover!
July 20th, 2012 at 9:52 am
I think people should have to have a mental eval before purchasing a gun, every time.
that way if they shoot up the place, they cannot plead insanity!!
a background check apparently isn’t enough …
July 20th, 2012 at 9:52 am
rr lmao
July 20th, 2012 at 9:53 am
Don’t forget oil, gold, and money.
July 20th, 2012 at 9:53 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 9:52 am
I think people should have to have a mental eval before purchasing a gun, every time.
that way if they shoot up the place, they cannot plead insanity!!
a background check apparently isn’t enough …
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tell that to steve mcnair
July 20th, 2012 at 9:54 am
Sullivan44 Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 9:51 am
A gunman shooting 50+ people in a movie theater is a bigger story than a mother bringing a bay to a midnight movie.
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These sick hateful fkrs don’t see it that way.
July 20th, 2012 at 9:54 am
too soon?
July 20th, 2012 at 9:54 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 9:52 am
I think people should have to have a mental eval before purchasing a gun, every time.
that way if they shoot up the place, they cannot plead insanity!!
a background check apparently isn’t enough …
I thought they were gonna start to do that?
July 20th, 2012 at 9:54 am
Burris is the great white hope at MLB. At least that’s how its developing.
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I know Burris CAN play “Mike” but he looks better suited for “Will”.
@ Guest….I know he comes from a weaker conference, but he had highlights against Boise State and Michigan, neither of which are bad teams.
July 20th, 2012 at 9:55 am
how do all these banned people get back in here
July 20th, 2012 at 9:56 am
ghost isnt wheeler gonna play will i think burris will be strong
July 20th, 2012 at 9:57 am
KoolKell Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 9:52 am
Guns ,Explosives, Gas Masks…………..Middle East?
$$$$$
Should I stereotype you too?
Let’s see:
Guns, drugs, unemployment, and 40’s …………. Black culture?!?
July 20th, 2012 at 9:57 am
i think curry n mcclain are good fit for mlb play is in front of them where they excel and they can just go hit people remember when curry laid out that sd tackle mcneil i think it was
July 20th, 2012 at 9:57 am
Hey DAV, you give us 80,000 updates on player moves and every whisper of a trade scenario, yet no update on Adam Morrison making a comeback with the Clips? Not cool!!
#goteamdiabetes
July 20th, 2012 at 9:58 am
I am surprised that an up and coming DJ would not use this blog as a format to get people to your shows.
Instead you chose to use this blog as a way to create hate, disdain and be an overall butthole to everyone you speak to.
It would have been so much better for you to make friends here so you could promote your crappy wanna be life style.
Must suck for you hiding all the time from people when you could have handled your self in a more mature manner.
July 20th, 2012 at 9:58 am
Hmm…parents are sick hateful fks now, Kell? Come on man, you’re better than that!
July 20th, 2012 at 9:58 am
I forgot to add no education.
July 20th, 2012 at 9:58 am
stop with the sterotypes people its 2012 people died b4 our time so we can enjoy equality get over it people
July 20th, 2012 at 9:58 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 9:57 am
Hey DAV, you give us 80,000 updates on player moves and every whisper of a trade scenario, yet no update on Adam Morrison making a comeback with the Clips? Not cool!!
#goteamdiabetes
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He was on the Nets summer league team in Orlando.
Also, Adam Morrison has more rings than LeBron James.
July 20th, 2012 at 9:59 am
ghost isnt wheeler gonna play will i think burris will be strong
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Yeah I heard that, but Burris’ greatest strength is as a pass rusher “It appears”- have to wait and see. I also heard that Wheeler is versatile enough to play ANY LB position.
July 20th, 2012 at 9:59 am
welcome to the blog, JFB
you picked an odd time to join us.
you sure you want to be a part of this zoo ??
it could use some policing, since Becker doesn’t do it anymore …
July 20th, 2012 at 10:00 am
Rolando is going to ball-out this year.
Very, very confident in this.
Plus, I would like to be able to wear my #55 to the Dec 6th game, lol
July 20th, 2012 at 10:00 am
Adam Morrison has more rings than LeBron James
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@DAV
and Dwight Howard !!
July 20th, 2012 at 10:01 am
mcskinnylegs, who’s been banned?
July 20th, 2012 at 10:02 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 10:00 am
Adam Morrison has more rings than LeBron James
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@DAV
and Dwight Howard !!
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And Barkley, Malone, Stockton…etc etc
LOL.
July 20th, 2012 at 10:02 am
Odd time? 11am is right in my semi-pro wheelhouse!!!!
Not a parent so not going to jump in on that, and as much I want to make fun of KoolKell I will abstain (for now).
July 20th, 2012 at 10:02 am
ghost isnt wheeler gonna play will i think burris will be strong
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Yeah I heard that, but Burris’ greatest strength is as a pass rusher “It appears”- have to wait and see. I also heard that Wheeler is versatile enough to play ANY LB position.
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so we line up wheeler over the t.e and let burris rush from the other side i actually think were going to see all diff formations and looks bout time we joined the rest of the nfl
July 20th, 2012 at 10:02 am
Burris is the great white hope at MLB. At least that’s how its developing.
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WTF does Burris being white have to do with anything ?
July 20th, 2012 at 10:02 am
DJ sully Fresh I want you to know that there is nothing more satisfying than watching you fall backwards into a huge steaming pile of shlt that you yourself created.
July 20th, 2012 at 10:02 am
@JFB
joining this blog right now is like walking into a bathroom stall after a 400 lb man with a newspaper under his arm and ketchup & mustard all over his mouth …
July 20th, 2012 at 10:03 am
Sullivan44 Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 10:01 am
mcskinnylegs, who’s been banned?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
didnt u get banned b4 im not being a douche just asking
July 20th, 2012 at 10:03 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 10:02 am
@JFB
joining this blog right now is like walking into a bathroom stall after a 400 lb man with a newspaper under his arm and ketchup & mustard all over his mouth
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
omg lmao
July 20th, 2012 at 10:03 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 10:02 am
DJ sully Fresh I want you to know that there is nothing more satisfying than watching you fall backwards into a huge steaming pile of shlt that you yourself created.
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Why don’t you get a life, dumbass?
July 20th, 2012 at 10:04 am
LMFAO @ RR
July 20th, 2012 at 10:04 am
ouch jfb u bought a 55 jersey
July 20th, 2012 at 10:04 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 10:02 am
@JFB
joining this blog right now is like walking into a bathroom stall after a 400 lb man with a newspaper under his arm and ketchup & mustard all over his mouth …
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At least you know the seat will be warm !!
July 20th, 2012 at 10:05 am
#55 jersey is going to be new #2 jersey. It won’t be long till they are stomped on and doused with butane, lit up and danced around.
July 20th, 2012 at 10:05 am
“Why don’t you get a life, dumbass?”
Like you? Getting your ass handed to you every day like the blogs whipping boy.
Yeah that’s a good life for you old man but not me.
July 20th, 2012 at 10:06 am
At least you know the seat will be warm !!
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@Mike
and he probably left you a “present”
July 20th, 2012 at 10:06 am
LOL ODB!
Long Live The ODB!
July 20th, 2012 at 10:07 am
you know i never understood what all the stop the blog bullying campaign was all about but shoosh after being in here for a few years i get it now
July 20th, 2012 at 10:07 am
matter of fact, somebody hand JFB a coat hanger …
he’s gonna need to break up a few logs and flush before he gets comfortable!!
July 20th, 2012 at 10:08 am
why hate someone for a difference on opinion thats what makes america great DIVERSITY!
July 20th, 2012 at 10:09 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 10:06 am
At least you know the seat will be warm !!
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@Mike
and he probably left you a “present”
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Its chocolate… the doggie dropped it !!!
July 20th, 2012 at 10:09 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 10:00 am
Rolando is going to ball-out this year.
Very, very confident in this.
Plus, I would like to be able to wear my #55 to the Dec 6th game, lol
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JFB, you used to be my guru after that awesome ‘Grads will start the 2nd half against the Rams’ prediction.
That was awesome.
Now I’m beginning to have my doubts about you.
I’m not giving up on the FireBaby family though.
You’re wife got DMoore correct.
What’s she say about 55 ?
July 20th, 2012 at 10:09 am
Come on Rockstar! I’m trying to finish up my lunch here.
July 20th, 2012 at 10:09 am
KK playing captain save a hoe because his man love Sully has been outed.
It cant get any more pathetic than that can it?
July 20th, 2012 at 10:10 am
i truly hate brett favre though lol
July 20th, 2012 at 10:10 am
were going to see all diff formations and looks bout time we joined the rest of the nfl
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I think any struggles with scheme adjustment will be somewhat “Masked” by the simple fact that we’re giving different looks. Teams have ZERO tape on the Raiders multiple defense. O-Coordinators and QB’s across the league have probably been very comfortable game planning us because, to a degree, they know what they’re gonna see. Just the change of scheme alone should have alot of guys going WTF, and buy us some time to actually grow into perficiancy at it.
July 20th, 2012 at 10:11 am
Come on Rockstar! I’m trying to finish up my lunch here.
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sorry, Jimbo!
easier to stomach the previous conversations??
July 20th, 2012 at 10:12 am
i agree ghost
July 20th, 2012 at 10:13 am
You’re wife got DMoore correct.
What’s she say about 55 ?
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She says that he should have gotten a #17 jersey.
July 20th, 2012 at 10:14 am
The horrific shooting at the screening of The Dark Knight Rises in Colorado late last night bears eerie similarities to a scene in the 1986 comic Batman: The Dark Knight Returns. In the comic, a crazed, gun-toting loner walks into a movie theater and begins shooting it up, killing three in the process. The passage concludes with the media blaming Batman for inspiring the shooting, though he is not involved in the incident at all.
The 1986 comic, written and drawn by Frank Miller, was a key inspiration for the Chris Nolan Batman films. It helped to reimagine the character away from his Saturday morning cartoon image and into a dark, grim avenger. The point of this particular scene in the comic was to show just how far Gotham has fallen since Batman had retired…
July 20th, 2012 at 10:14 am
What’s she say about 55 ?
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Not much other than “where is the guy that your wearing at again?” lol
Life is tough in the Rolando fan club. You got to REALLY pay attention to find some hope.
July 20th, 2012 at 10:14 am
America is sick.
July 20th, 2012 at 10:16 am
You got to REALLY pay attention to find some hope.
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And probably not follow the ball-carrier.
But that is all going to change in 2012.
The Visor will turn around big double-nickel.
July 20th, 2012 at 10:17 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 10:09 am
KK playing captain save a hoe because his man love Sully has been outed.
It cant get any more pathetic than that can it?
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Get a life you dumbschit. There was just a massacre, and all you can think about is Sully. Pathetic
July 20th, 2012 at 10:19 am
17 miles from Columbine………….
July 20th, 2012 at 10:21 am
If I were to have to rank Wifey’s favorite Raiders:
1-D Moore
2 Seabass
3 McFadden
4 Shane
5 hmmm………probably Huffy
She likes Carson, called his on the field presence “cerebral” which I liked, but still thinks he looks like too much of a dork.
July 20th, 2012 at 10:21 am
The Visor will turn around big double-nickel.
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Yes, & on his backside he will look like “SS” for “super sissy”
July 20th, 2012 at 10:22 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 10:21 am
If I were to have to rank Wifey’s favorite Raiders:
1-D Moore
2 Seabass
3 McFadden
4 Shane
5 hmmm………probably Huffy
She likes Carson, called his on the field presence “cerebral” which I liked, but still thinks he looks like too much of a dork.
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Who gives a fk?
July 20th, 2012 at 10:22 am
‘Where’s Ronaldo ?’
‘He’s the one jogging after the ball carrier’
‘Oh’
July 20th, 2012 at 10:23 am
She likes Carson, called his on the field presence “cerebral” which I liked, but still thinks he looks like too much of a dork.
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That’s code for “she thinks he’s cute”. Sorry man.
July 20th, 2012 at 10:23 am
How can you say I shouldnt reproduce Rockstar? Your raising one of my kids..
July 20th, 2012 at 10:24 am
KK,
I was asked about wifey’s diangosis of a player and expanded on the topic.
Don’t like it, go refill your scotch and scroll on!!!
July 20th, 2012 at 10:25 am
‘Which one is Ronaldo’
‘He’s the one that just whiffed. You can’t miss him missing’
July 20th, 2012 at 10:28 am
I know you NRA whores have no civic responsibility, and don t want to talk about what happened today. you’d rather hate on Rolando McClain all day instead.
July 20th, 2012 at 10:28 am
Where has Ed Teach and Armond gone?
Bad hires for the blog staff!!!!
I might need to hire a consultant to help with the replacement selections.
July 20th, 2012 at 10:28 am
‘Which one is Ronaldo’
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He’s the one on the wrong side of the field away from the play straying from where he was SUPPOSED to be to have stopped the play. That’s him jogging behind the player scoring the TD.
July 20th, 2012 at 10:28 am
Don’t like it, go refill your scotch and scroll on!!!
$$$$$$$$$$$$
Scotch?!?
I didn’t know they sold 40’s of scotch.
July 20th, 2012 at 10:29 am
‘Hey hon, wanna see a pic of 55 out of his uniform ?’
‘Wow. Great smile. Nice shirt and belt too. Who’s the guy holding the handcuffs ?’
July 20th, 2012 at 10:29 am
We talked about the topic all morning, and than astonishingly once you started chiming in everyone lost interest.
Amazing how that ALWAYS happens, no?
July 20th, 2012 at 10:31 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 10:29 am
We talked about the topic all morning, and than astonishingly once you started chiming in everyone lost interest.
Amazing how that ALWAYS happens, no?
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Yeah, you sick fkrs blamed baby momma all morning.
July 20th, 2012 at 10:31 am
Nice shirt and belt too
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That was my biggest beef with his arrest.
Our young MLB is playing gangster? Ok fine.
Our young MLB hangs with killers? Ahhh…fine I guess
Our young MLB messes with the police? Ok
But our young MLB wears skinny jeans with designer belts???
Not good!!!!
July 20th, 2012 at 10:32 am
“America is sick.”
Whats sick is when a legend passes away and people like you still kicking dirt on his grave!
July 20th, 2012 at 10:34 am
damn KK you are just full of hate today.
whats wrong brother ? they run out of 40s of olde english 800 again ??
July 20th, 2012 at 10:34 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 10:32 am
“America is sick.”
Whats sick is when a legend passes away and people like you still kicking dirt on his grave!
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Yeah, nice comparison you sick fk
July 20th, 2012 at 10:35 am
well fellas im out blog is getting rediculous now
July 20th, 2012 at 10:36 am
R8ER MIKE Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 10:34 am
damn KK you are just full of hate today.
whats wrong brother ? they run out of 40s of olde english 800 again ??
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Because of the massacre in Colorado, you sick schit
July 20th, 2012 at 10:37 am
NFL Total Access, earlier this morning:
-not hatin’ on the Raiders (for a change);
simply stated — DMAC must have an injury-free year this year in order for them to compete;
also mention of how much better Carson Palmer should be this year;
refreshing to NOT hear a bunch of Haters!
July 20th, 2012 at 10:38 am
catch ya later Skinny
July 20th, 2012 at 10:39 am
No one said we should blame the parents for what happened, but most of us agree that patents should be more responsible with their kids.
An adult movie at midnight is not a safe/ Healthy environment for a kid.
If you are too ignorant to understand that, then you are too ignorant to have kids.
July 20th, 2012 at 10:41 am
ODB,
Stop being a sick FK. Start race baiting, talk crap about a dead man, and then seek attention in a blog, and maybe then you can be as Kool as Kell.
July 20th, 2012 at 10:41 am
That was my biggest beef with his arrest.
Our young MLB is playing gangster? Ok fine.
Our young MLB hangs with killers? Ahhh…fine I guess
Our young MLB messes with the police? Ok
But our young MLB wears skinny jeans with designer belts???
Not good!!!!
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Funny stuff.
Besides the goofy grin and attire, I was surprised that Ronaldo looked kind of thin and lanky in his street clothes.
Looks alot thicker on the field.
Or maybe that just an optical illusion due to him moving in slow motion.
July 20th, 2012 at 10:41 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 10:31 am
Nice shirt and belt too
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That was my biggest beef with his arrest.
Our young MLB is playing gangster? Ok fine.
Our young MLB hangs with killers? Ahhh…fine I guess
Our young MLB messes with the police? Ok
But our young MLB wears skinny jeans with designer belts???
Not good!!!!
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His outfit is what bothered you most? C’mon bro.
July 20th, 2012 at 10:42 am
If you are too ignorant to understand that, then you are too ignorant to have kids.
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Un-true. If there were criteria of any kind that limited ignorance from being a qualifier, the worlds population would fall back to 1970’s levels.
July 20th, 2012 at 10:42 am
Sorry ODB. I mean sick schit.
July 20th, 2012 at 10:42 am
Glad we have Carson.
While he is not as complete of a QB as I would like, he possesses some serious fire-power, and can hang for a weekend with the Peyton’s and River’s of the world.
Before, we were bringing a knife to a gun fight, as far as QB play.
July 20th, 2012 at 10:42 am
KK is getting all emotional about the Colorado shootings like we are all supposed to bow our heads in a moment of silence or something.
Sorry to inform you old man but this kind of retardation happens all over the country all the time. Just because the media wants to make a big deal out of you are such a sheep you respond.
There are loads of injustices that happen to innocent citizens all across this great country of ours every day.
We can debate this all day long but that wont change anything. Sure we are all affected by these kinds of things and we all feel pain and sorrow for the innocent.
But this is a Raiders blog so unless those shot were Raider fans I really don’t want to hear about it anymore and if I did I could turn on my TV and sheepishly follow the media band wagon like you are doing.
July 20th, 2012 at 10:43 am
Raider fans taking issue with their MLB’s outfits. Never thought I’d see the day…
July 20th, 2012 at 10:44 am
“Un-true. If there were criteria of any kind that limited ignorance from being a qualifier, the worlds population would fall back to 1970’s levels.”
Yeah any retard can reproduce!
July 20th, 2012 at 10:45 am
Guest,
It should be. lol
July 20th, 2012 at 10:45 am
His outfit is what bothered you most? C’mon bro.
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Other than pissing on his teammates, yes.
Don’t care about the other gangster stuff. There was probably 20% of the leauge THAT NIGHT doing stupid shat that could have run them afoul from the law.
In all honesty, I have a bigger problem with DHB drunk-driving then some misdeamenor gang-banging accusastions.
Gangsters kill gangsters. Drunk-drivers kill families.
July 20th, 2012 at 10:46 am
1160.Raiderbuck Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 9:27 am
Guns didn’t do it, a crazy person did.
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65,000,000 registered gun owners did not walk into a theater and kill anyone last night.
July 20th, 2012 at 10:47 am
Before, we were bringing a knife to a gun fight, as far as QB play.
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Soup = water pistol.
CP3 = nine milimeter. Upgrade, but still not equal footing, but I agree we got a fighting chance!
July 20th, 2012 at 10:49 am
These sick fkrs can go on all day about McClains brush with the law. But a massacre by a white boy, is a non factor.
July 20th, 2012 at 10:50 am
Upgrade, but still not equal footing, but I agree we got a fighting chance!
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We got a fighting chance from game to game.
On a macro level, looking at a whole season or maybe a 4-5 year run, absolutely not equal footing.
But if we need to hang up 24 points in a half, we CAN do that now, and not have to be piss-drunk to even consider it a possible reality.
July 20th, 2012 at 10:51 am
Baby momma fault.
July 20th, 2012 at 10:51 am
Gangsters kill gangsters. Drunk-drivers kill families.
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Sorry, but I have to disagree. I don’t live in the ghetto, but I hear stories in the local paper all the time of innocent children shot up with stray drive by bullets. Those kids committed no crime other than to be borne to poor folk.
July 20th, 2012 at 10:51 am
OK, who had KoolKell as the first to turn today’s tragic events into a racial/political debate in the office pool?
Please step forward to claim your prize……..
July 20th, 2012 at 10:52 am
KoolKell Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 10:51 am
Baby momma fault.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
LOL
July 20th, 2012 at 10:53 am
KoolKell Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 10:49 am
These sick fkrs can go on all day about McClains brush with the law. But a massacre by a white boy, is a non factor. Don’t wanna talk about it.
July 20th, 2012 at 10:53 am
Well sure, there is situations of innocent bystanders.
We should pay for these hood folk to take shooting lessons, so they can hit the intended targets and leave the kids to be.
July 20th, 2012 at 10:53 am
Gangsters kill gangsters. Drunk-drivers kill families.
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Not always. I grew up around stories of senseless violence on innocent citizens by gangsters. One such story had a gangster walking up to an innocent good kid at a park and asking him ‘what you claim?’, then shooting/killing him afterwards.
Gangsters recruit other gangsters (your kids),and sometimes attack innocent folks.
July 20th, 2012 at 10:57 am
71 people shot!!!
July 20th, 2012 at 10:57 am
Most of gangster murders don’t involve innocent citizen.
All of drunk-driving deaths MURDER innocent citizens.
That was my point.
July 20th, 2012 at 10:59 am
71 people shot. The U S Army don’t shoot that many people at one time, in Afghanisthan
July 20th, 2012 at 11:02 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 10:57 am
Most of gangster murders don’t involve innocent citizen.
All of drunk-driving deaths MURDER innocent citizens.
That was my point.
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It’s sad pieces of schit like you would try to justify by making stupid comparisons. Wft. It’s ok because gangsters shoot people too?
America is sick.
July 20th, 2012 at 11:04 am
Most of gangster murders don’t involve innocent citizen.
All of drunk-driving deaths MURDER innocent citizens.
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Not too sure, about most gangster murders involving innocents. That all depends on what is considered innocent. A lot of kin who have nothing to do with gangsta business get shot for instance. I consider them innocent.
And I think it’s a stretch to say ALL drunk driving deaths murder innocents. Certainly the people behind the wheel who die aren’t innocent.
July 20th, 2012 at 11:04 am
Hey, black gangsters shot people too
-sick
July 20th, 2012 at 11:05 am
Yes that was a tragedy and my heart still goes out to victims and their families! Unfortunately, that is the biggest news today! Sad that it had to be something like that. I agree, that does make me sick! But it could have been anyone besides a white man shooting all those movie patrons and it would have been just as sick!
July 20th, 2012 at 11:06 am
Raider O Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 10:41 am
ODB,
Stop being a sick FK. Start race baiting, talk crap about a dead man, and then seek attention in a blog, and maybe then you can be as Kool as Kell.
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this sir will never happen !!
i will forever be a sick FK !! lol lol lol
and if being a yuppie di*khead fuk makes you
as Kool as Kell, i will never be Kool !!
July 20th, 2012 at 11:06 am
71 people shot. The U S Army don’t shoot that many people at one time, in Afghanisthan
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not surprising. I understand that people in adjacent theatres were shot as well with stray bullets.
July 20th, 2012 at 11:07 am
guest123 Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 11:06 am
71 people shot. The U S Army don’t shoot that many people at one time, in Afghanisthan
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not surprising. I understand that people in adjacent theatres were shot as well with stray bullets.
Yup!
July 20th, 2012 at 11:09 am
1331. Hwnrdr, well said.
July 20th, 2012 at 11:13 am
Plenty of gangster related deaths involving innocent people, whether from stray bullets, mistaken identity, family retaliation, or otherwise.
Neither DUI nor gangster behavior is acceptable.
July 20th, 2012 at 11:14 am
Bulletproof Vest, Ballistic Helment, Throat Protector, Groin Protector.
July 20th, 2012 at 11:16 am
The Big Banana Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 11:13 am
Plenty of gangster related deaths involving innocent people, whether from stray bullets, mistaken identity, family retaliation, or otherwise.
Neither DUI nor gangster behavior is acceptable.
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Exactly
July 20th, 2012 at 11:17 am
Michael Vick = Dispicable (race has nothing to do with it)
O.J. = Guilty as hell (race has nothing to do with it)
Whitney Houston = Crackhead (race has nothing to do with it)
The two Columbine kids, the kid from Kentucky, the dude in Arizona who shot Gabby, John Lennon’s killer and the shooter today = all sick f#$%s who deserve a fate worse than hell itself (race has nothing to do with it)
July 20th, 2012 at 11:18 am
CNBC just reported that Breitbart news has reported that the shooter was a registered Democrat.
Watch both sides of the national media, turn this tragedy into some type of political talking point.
Sad.
July 20th, 2012 at 11:21 am
Don’t forget the DC sniper.
July 20th, 2012 at 11:22 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 11:18 am
CNBC just reported that Breitbart news has reported that the shooter was a registered Democrat.
Watch both sides of the national media, turn this tragedy into some type of political talking point.
Sad.
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You just did
July 20th, 2012 at 11:22 am
Tampa already is working their rookies at One Buc Place ahead of the Veterans who report late next week. The Raiders don’t have anyone report until the 29th of July. Bucs have a coaching turnover and so do the Raiders. Why didn’t the Raiders opt for an earlier report date for rooks and vets?
With the 6 weeks of repeated arrests/DUI’s around the league, we should be reeling in them sooner if only to keep them from hurting themselves.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/eye-on-football/19542837/nfl-announces-2012-training-camp-dates-locations
July 20th, 2012 at 11:22 am
If you want to really mourn something, consider that this country loses an estimated one military veteran per day, to suicide. We don’t do enough or say enough for these brave men and women who gave their all. As tragic and random as today’s events were, the saga with our veterans goes on and on …
July 20th, 2012 at 11:22 am
Chargers sign Aubrayo Franklin
July 20th, 2012 at 11:23 am
Colorado shooter painted his hair red, called himself The Joker.
Sick.
July 20th, 2012 at 11:24 am
KoolKell –
I think the D.C. sniper was truly the devil reincarnated!!
July 20th, 2012 at 11:26 am
1344. All gave some and some gave all.
July 20th, 2012 at 11:26 am
#1346:
He got the last three letters of his name correct;
the first three letters, however, are: F-u-c
July 20th, 2012 at 11:28 am
“The world is a ghetto- Get Boys
Truest statement ever…and very sad
I feel sad for those people for that to even happen. Yes the moms shouldnt have young children out at midnite but do they deserve harm?
Every time a child is hurt I cant but help tear up. Call me a softy if you want but Children didnt ask to be here
July 20th, 2012 at 11:30 am
Well it seems things are picking up fast on Earth….eventhough sports isnt top priority let’s hope it softens some of these blows us in society keep taking
July 20th, 2012 at 11:30 am
You just did
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Nope, I just reported FACTS.
July 20th, 2012 at 11:34 am
Every time a child is hurt I cant but help tear up. Call me a softy if you want but Children didnt ask to be here
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You aren’t alone. I swear to God it gets me when I hear about children getting hurt. When they reported that the 3 mo baby was unharmed after previously reported killed, I literally cried tears of joy. Break out the kleenex. I’m a softee.
July 20th, 2012 at 11:36 am
Good for you Tbone.
My wife works at the VA, and it is pretty sad the mental state of some of our troops past and present.
The accepts volunteers to work and help out, push patients around to go outside, etc, and almost nobody does sadly.
July 20th, 2012 at 11:36 am
This is a very saddening incident and I feel for all who died and were exposed to this, just keep in mind that this will be used by the powers-to-be to demonize weapons even more, as the U.S. is set to sign a U.N. Gun Treaty
next Friday. Just saying…
July 20th, 2012 at 11:36 am
I feel sad for those people for that to even happen. Yes the moms shouldnt have young children out at midnite but do they deserve harm?
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Agree with this. Dumb to have kids out that late for various reasons, but last I checked getting shot by a crazed rifle toting lunatic wasn’t one of them.
July 20th, 2012 at 11:38 am
But some uplifting news…..those Swingin A’s doin it again!
Huah!
Big win vs white hot Yankees….need another excellent pitching gem from Milone tonight
July 20th, 2012 at 11:40 am
G123….wow youre human! It’s a crime you know? lol
July 20th, 2012 at 11:40 am
Sorry, I should state that at the ABQ VA, rarely anybody volunteers.
Don’t know the situation in other area’s and I shouldn’t speak on that, but hopefully it is better.
When I go to give my wife lunch sometimes, she will point me out to some old dude that is a sports fan and try to talk shop with him for 10-15 minutes.
The least I can do, and should honestly do way more.
July 20th, 2012 at 11:41 am
VR…………say all you want but Dodgers will be active over the next ten days or so…and guess what they will overtake the Giants in the NL West next month….just watch….you sissies will be crying wishing the Baja Men were still doing performances at the game
July 20th, 2012 at 11:44 am
Gentlemen get it excited….next monday thru friday is our last week of talking aimlessly about nada because Napa is almost here! YES YES YES and we will have much to discuss….im sure all rooks will be signed!
I’m pumped but cautious this time around…Knapp,ZBS and Dline concern me
July 20th, 2012 at 11:45 am
LOL at the Dodgers.
7-20 over the last month, and just went 2-4 AT HOME to two last placed teams.
Under .500 by the end of August.
Print that!!!
July 20th, 2012 at 11:45 am
be back later fellas
July 20th, 2012 at 11:45 am
raidertbone Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 11:22 am
If you want to really mourn something, consider that this country loses an estimated one military veteran per day, to suicide. We don’t do enough or say enough for these brave men and women who gave their all. As tragic and random as today’s events were, the saga with our veterans goes on and on …
Agreed!
July 20th, 2012 at 11:46 am
So I shouldn’t order my custom superbowl party poppers yet?:(
July 20th, 2012 at 11:46 am
The division is so far in our rear-view mirror, I am not really thinking on that.
Trying to get ahead of Pitt/Cincy division winner for home field in that round (WC will play the Nats).
If you can’t beat out the Dodgers, you aren’t going anywhere anyways (as they aren’t).
July 20th, 2012 at 11:47 am
LOL, can’t argue with a Giants fan. But oh boy, I mentioned them getting eliminated last year and I’m a hater and was told to blow smoke out of my a**! Too friggen funny!
July 20th, 2012 at 11:47 am
hwnrdr Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 11:45 am
raidertbone Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 11:22 am
If you want to really mourn something, consider that this country loses an estimated one military veteran per day, to suicide. We don’t do enough or say enough for these brave men and women who gave their all. As tragic and random as today’s events were, the saga with our veterans goes on and on …
Agreed!
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Very sad, don’t forget the epidemic of active duty who are doing the same..all time highs I believe.
July 20th, 2012 at 11:48 am
JFB.. how about dem Nats !!!
July 20th, 2012 at 11:49 am
R8ER MIKE Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 11:48 am
JFB.. how about dem Nats !!!
Bryce Parkersanity!
July 20th, 2012 at 11:49 am
Nats are awesome man!!!
I still am hoping the Orioles can hang in there as well, but they seem to be treading water at best.
July 20th, 2012 at 11:49 am
On a happier note, Tiger is really bringing his A game to the course today!
July 20th, 2012 at 11:53 am
It’s been almost 10 years since I lived in Cali, and after that time, the hatred for the local rivals (A’s, 49ers, Stanford) has dropped off dramatically.
I basically hate all LA teams and my division rivals.
Also, 7 years of desensitizing myself to sports rivalaries by gambling daily killed it as well.
So you A’s guys can hate on the Giants and the fans, and call us all kinds of names but I will kill you with kindness, straight Gandhi-style and root on the A’s, lol.
July 20th, 2012 at 11:55 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 11:53 am
It’s been almost 10 years since I lived in Cali, and after that time, the hatred for the local rivals (A’s, 49ers, Stanford) has dropped off dramatically.
I basically hate all LA teams and my division rivals.
Also, 7 years of desensitizing myself to sports rivalaries by gambling daily killed it as well.
So you A’s guys can hate on the Giants and the fans, and call us all kinds of names but I will kill you with kindness, straight Gandhi-style and root on the A’s, lol.
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Happiness is when what you think, what you say and what you do are in harmony.lol
July 20th, 2012 at 11:56 am
Chargers sign Aubrayo Franklin
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seriously??
puke!
I wanted him ..
July 20th, 2012 at 11:57 am
I won’t root for the 49ers though.
Although I don’t really root against them, not passionately at least.
Growing up as a kid, I almost enjoyed rooting against the 49ers more than rooting for the Raiders.
July 20th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
Rockstar,
Think about it this way. The Chargers in their wisdom think the NORV is head coaching material, and Reggie passed on Aubrayo Franklin probably because he see things better from a football perspective than AJ Smith.
Franklin’s probably washed up and won’t make the roster anyway.
July 20th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 11:53 am
It’s been almost 10 years since I lived in Cali, and after that time, the hatred for the local rivals (A’s, 49ers, Stanford) has dropped off dramatically.
I basically hate all LA teams and my division rivals.
Also, 7 years of desensitizing myself to sports rivalaries by gambling daily killed it as well.
So you A’s guys can hate on the Giants and the fans, and call us all kinds of names but I will kill you with kindness, straight Gandhi-style and root on the A’s, lol.
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Not this Giants fan. I root against the A’s. Not because I hate them, but because I don’t like that dirt infield during football season. DMAC injury waiting to happen.
July 20th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
Chargers sign Aubrayo Franklin
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seriously??
puke!
I wanted him ..
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Crazy how a player goes from “Franchise” to signing a 1-year deals.
July 20th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
I hated the fairy niners pretty much all my life. But nothing matches my hate of the Donkeys. Living in Colorado for awhile only fortified it.
July 20th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
Happiness is when what you think, what you say and what you do are in harmony.lol
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Happiness is cold beer and tasty buds !!!
July 20th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
That dirt is awful.
Part of the reason why I chose to go to the Dec 6th game over the Steelers game week 3.
Taking a big chance on potentially going to a meaningless game late in the year, but it’s the wifey’s first game in Oakland, and couldn’t take her to a game with dirt on it.
July 20th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
R8ER MIKE Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
Happiness is when what you think, what you say and what you do are in harmony.lol
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Happiness is cold beer and tasty buds !!!
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Lol!
July 20th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
JFB, lol…you guys are cool! I just never got the concept of if you’re a Raider Fan, how the heck are you a Giants Fan…or vice versa! I guess it must be a Bay Area thing…sorry, was born and raised across teh ocean!
July 20th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
That dirt is awful.
Part of the reason why I chose to go to the Dec 6th game over the Steelers game week 3.
Taking a big chance on potentially going to a meaningless game late in the year, but it’s the wifey’s first game in Oakland, and couldn’t take her to a game with dirt on it.
Is that official? Getting your tickets
July 20th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
Theres just not alot to do in colorado I guess
July 20th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
R8ER MIKE Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
Happiness is when what you think, what you say and what you do are in harmony.lol
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Happiness is cold beer and tasty buds !!!
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It’s about beer thirty in my neck of the woods!!
July 20th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
only team in all of sports that I despise is the Chargers.
July 20th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
Hwnrdr Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
JFB, lol…you guys are cool! I just never got the concept of if you’re a Raider Fan, how the heck are you a Giants Fan…or vice versa! I guess it must be a Bay Area thing…sorry, was born and raised across teh ocean!
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At the time I was growing up in the Bay Area,the Niners and A’s we’re the darlings of the Bay. I root for underdogs, just who I am, so I went with Raiders and Giants. Besides, I was a big fan of Bo Jack and the Raider grittiness, as well as Will Clark and Kevin Mitchell. Hated the sissified finesse Niners and the steroid brothers.
July 20th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
I just never got the concept of if you’re a Raider Fan, how the heck are you a Giants Fan…or vice versa
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It is definitely azz-backwards, but there is more of us than you would think.
Also had a guy in my wedding party who is a 49er-A’s guy.
Just trying to be different as a kid I guess, lol, and stuck with it through life.
July 20th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
Is that official? Getting your tickets
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I got everything but the tickets, but two buddies have season tix, and I guess they can buy 2 additional tix for every game, ahead of the gen pop?
July 20th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
Well, even more wierd is me liking the Raiders, Magic & White Sox.. lol..
July 20th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
I never knew any A’s/Giants fans growing up. Like for instance, the fans in the 89 series that had “the house divided” or split A’s/Giants logo caps. That didn’t ring true to me. Where did these split loyalty fans come from? Was it all marketing?
July 20th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
And on that note, im out early.
Fantasy draft to get ready for!!
Stay safe & God Bless guys..
July 20th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
What kind of a freak bases his killing spree on a comic book from the 80’s?
July 20th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
I just never got the concept of if you’re a Raider Fan, how the heck are you a Giants Fan…or vice versa
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It is definitely azz-backwards, but there is more of us than you would think.
Also had a guy in my wedding party who is a 49er-A’s guy.
Just trying to be different as a kid I guess, lol, and stuck with it through life.
I know some Niner fans that are die hard A’s fans as well. Like I said…never grasped it, but I know it exists! My firends are all Raiders/Giants fans as well…except for one who is all Oakland! With me being a Laker fan, he gives me crap for that as well
July 20th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
Is that official? Getting your tickets
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I got everything but the tickets, but two buddies have season tix, and I guess they can buy 2 additional tix for every game, ahead of the gen pop?
Yup! It goes out to the public in August! I think I can buy tix soon I believe…
July 20th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
guest123 Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
I never knew any A’s/Giants fans growing up. Like for instance, the fans in the 89 series that had “the house divided” or split A’s/Giants logo caps. That didn’t ring true to me. Where did these split loyalty fans come from? Was it all marketing?
Remember those? I was like…get the heck outta here…lol
July 20th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
The Big Banana Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
Hwnrdr Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
JFB, lol…you guys are cool! I just never got the concept of if you’re a Raider Fan, how the heck are you a Giants Fan…or vice versa! I guess it must be a Bay Area thing…sorry, was born and raised across teh ocean!
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At the time I was growing up in the Bay Area,the Niners and A’s we’re the darlings of the Bay. I root for underdogs, just who I am, so I went with Raiders and Giants. Besides, I was a big fan of Bo Jack and the Raider grittiness, as well as Will Clark and Kevin Mitchell. Hated the sissified finesse Niners and the steroid brothers.
70’s/80’s! I hear ya! Now its changed! Media bags on the A’s now…with Billy Beane and all of his trading away talent blah blah blah! I guess that is why I never seen MoneyBall yet! Why make a movie about anyone who has NEVER won anything is beyond me!
July 20th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
But JFB, and all who do come out this year to make a game…let us know. It is always good to put a face to the name!
July 20th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
Guest123 Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
I never knew any A’s/Giants fans growing up. Like for instance, the fans in the 89 series that had “the house divided” or split A’s/Giants logo caps. That didn’t ring true to me. Where did these split loyalty fans come from? Was it all marketing?
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Had a friend that did this. He was a Giants fan when it came down to it but pinked out and white the split cap when we watched the inter league games at the Coliseum. He was a niner fan (sissy), what can you say…
Meanwhile I rooted my Giants very loudly and drew the angst if a few A’s fans. Lol
July 20th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
*punked
July 20th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
*wore
Dam thing muffing up my words
July 20th, 2012 at 12:53 pm
good thing its not wording up your muff !! lol lol lol
July 20th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
Hwnrdr Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
But JFB, and all who do come out this year to make a game…let us know. It is always good to put a face to the name!
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Season tickets, bro! I’ll be there
July 20th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
The Big Banana Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
Hwnrdr Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
But JFB, and all who do come out this year to make a game…let us know. It is always good to put a face to the name!
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Season tickets, bro! I’ll be there
What section? Do you tailgate?
July 20th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
Think about it this way. The Chargers in their wisdom think the NORV is head coaching material, and Reggie passed on Aubrayo Franklin probably because he see things better from a football perspective than AJ Smith.
Franklin’s probably washed up and won’t make the roster anyway.
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it’s WAY too early to say that Reggie & Dennis > AJ & Norv !!
based on what? OTA’s ? first go-round of draft & free agency?
zero games have been played bro. I like your attitude though
keep the Kool-Aid flowin
July 20th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
Broadasters are pulling “Dark Knight” ads across the country in reaction to the massacre in Colorado.
I’m heading out. Have a good weekend all!
July 20th, 2012 at 12:59 pm
San Diego just signed Jackie Battle!
July 20th, 2012 at 12:59 pm
keep the Kool-Aid flowin
******
Hell ya!
July 20th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
keep the Kool-Aid flowin
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In moderation…
July 20th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
Thec Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
keep the Kool-Aid flowin
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In moderation…
With vodka!
July 20th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
hwnrdr Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
Thec Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
keep the Kool-Aid flowin
+++++++
In moderation…
With vodka!
++++++++++=
Bartender, bring this man a bottle of Grey Goose.
July 20th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
hwnrdr Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 12:59 pm
San Diego just signed Jackie Battle!
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No biggie man, they still have Norvster so they’re fkd!lol
July 20th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
Sad commentary perhaps, but don’t be surprised if this tragedy catapults that movie to record box office numbers.
July 20th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
Anybody that blames the movie for this is making a ridiculous stretch.
I don’t recall “The Sound of Music” causing people to run naked in the hills yodeling and dancing.
July 20th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
Thec Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
hwnrdr Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
Thec Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
keep the Kool-Aid flowin
+++++++
In moderation…
With vodka!
++++++++++=
Bartender, bring this man a bottle of Grey Goose.
YES!
July 20th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
Raider O Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 9:58 am
I forgot to add no education.
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You also forgot 65% of the Atheletes in the NFL….
July 20th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
I remember after Columbine our radio station owners eliminating various songs from the playlist:
-Shoot to Thrill AC/DC
-Janies Got a Gun Aerosmith
-Saturday Night Special Lynyrd Skynyrd
… plus a few others.
The ban lasted for weeks.
After 911 we couldn’t play any songs with airplanes, explosions, or flying…
Not to be insensitive, but i thought they were being overly politically correct with that stuff.
I can’t imagine someone breaking down and being pushed over the edge after hearing “Leaving on a Jet Plane”.
“That song said airplane in it………” “I can’t believe it”.
July 20th, 2012 at 1:25 pm
the disc can sign whomever they want, still wont change the fact they will never win a SB.
July 20th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
Lets just remember that these people that were shot were most likely Bronco fans.
Not that I condone acts of violence but at least there were no Raider fans hurt today.
July 20th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
Where is KK to tell me how much of an ass I am for saying things like that.
Must be nap time or enema time at the old folks home
July 20th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
Silver,
I will never question your Raiderness.
July 20th, 2012 at 1:34 pm
Jackie Battle & Aubrayo Franklin were quality depth signings that probably came pretty cheap. competition in training camp is always a good thing.
having said that, I hate Sandy Eggo and I hope Rivers gets a torn ACL in the preseason
July 20th, 2012 at 1:35 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
Lets just remember that these people that were shot were most likely Bronco fans.
Not that I condone acts of violence but at least there were no Raider fans hurt today.
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C’mon man…idk how to even respond to that crap you just spewed.
July 20th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
Silver,
I will never question your Raiderness.
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That’s not Raiderness man, it’s being a d1ck, plain and simple.
July 20th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 1:34 pm
Jackie Battle & Aubrayo Franklin were quality depth signings that probably came pretty cheap. competition in training camp is always a good thing.
having said that, I hate Sandy Eggo and I hope Rivers gets a torn ACL in the preseason
Actually, I want to beat SD at their best! You want to be the best you have to beat the best!
July 20th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
Lower level corner end zone. Yes, we tailgate.
July 20th, 2012 at 1:41 pm
The Big Banana Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
Lower level corner end zone. Yes, we tailgate.
I’m in 130, row 31! Tailgate in lot D
July 20th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
Silver is hardcore Raider. That’s all i’m saying.
We all know this is a horrific tragedy no matter who died.
Unless it was a group of AL Qaeda watching a film of Bin Laden’s “Greatest Hits” and laughing and having a good time.
July 20th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
“That’s not Raiderness man, it’s being a d1ck, plain and simple.”
Lighten up it was meant for KK not your goofy inbreed ass.
And by the way Dlck is something that you suck not what I am.
July 20th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
“We all know this is a horrific tragedy no matter who died.”
Agreed and KK was in here all upset about it so I was f@cking with him.
It was intended for Kool Kell and no one else.
July 20th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
When do you normally get to your seat, Hwn? In case I swing by…just before game time or get there earlier.
July 20th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
DJ Johnny would win in a DJ battle….do they have those?
July 20th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
The Big Banana Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
When do you normally get to your seat, Hwn? In case I swing by…just before game time or get there earlier.
We usually get to our seats right aroound the time the National Anthem is being sung.
July 20th, 2012 at 2:08 pm
Anybody that blames the movie for this is making a ridiculous stretch.
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It’s ludicrous to blame the movie.
This guy is obviously dangerously mentally disturbed. Probably has been for a while.
Yet somehow, he managed to fly under the radar and seemingly was functioning well in society – at least in the academic world. The guy was an Honor’s student at UC Riverside and studying for a Phd in neurology. A top student.
It’s possible that some recent trauma caused him to just snap, but I doubt it. This rampage was probably building up inside him for sometime, the result of a mental illness. An illness concealed within a brilliant mind and undetected by his associates, professors and maybe even his family.
It would be comforting to think that it is easy to spot these walking time-bombs and prevent them from doing damage. Sadly, that’s not the case.
This probably has nothing to do with the Dark Knight in particular, but I don’t entirely discount the notion that constant viewing of violence in films and video games etc. can help push disturbed people over the edge or even be a source of their derangement.
You can go nuts trying to figure out these nuts.
July 20th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
how come we didn’t have a 3 hour conversation after the village in africa was massacered lasr week? No batman?
July 20th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
200 ppl died, mostly women & kids.. And they werent event crying during the movie…
July 20th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
R8ER MIKE Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
Happiness is when what you think, what you say and what you do are in harmony.lol
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Happiness is cold beer and tasty buds !!!
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No Bush?!
Betty!!!!
July 20th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
Anybody that blames the movie for this is making a ridiculous stretch.
I don’t recall “The Sound of Music” causing people to run naked in the hills yodeling and dancing.
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LMAO
July 20th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
Thec Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
Raider O Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 9:58 am
I forgot to add no education.
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You also forgot 65% of the Atheletes in the NFL….
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Trying to make a point, and I think you missed it.
Shouldn’t stereotype other people/ minorities especially when you are a minority member.
July 20th, 2012 at 2:24 pm
Especially when you are a minority member who experienced stereotyping and racism.
July 20th, 2012 at 2:24 pm
Have a great weekend Nation!
July 20th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
Have a good one, Hwn.
July 20th, 2012 at 2:33 pm
Enjoy the weekend brother.
July 20th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
Raider O Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
Thec Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
Raider O Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 9:58 am
I forgot to add no education.
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You also forgot 65% of the Atheletes in the NFL….
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Trying to make a point, and I think you missed it.
Shouldn’t stereotype other people/ minorities especially when you are a minority member.
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No, I did not miss your point. You just pointed out how you truly feel. Freedom of speech…
July 20th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
You don’t know me, so you don’t know how I feel. You are making assumptions again. If you don’t want people to stereotype you, then don’t do it to others.
You never had a problem with others steteotyping/ being racist towards Arabs, so I should assume you encourage it or that you are racist?
Maybe you are racist.
July 20th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
Raider O Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 2:24 pm
Especially when you are a minority member who experienced stereotyping and racism.
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You came with the ” stereo typical” list. I just pointed out to you that in your list you should have also listed that they are atheletic…Oh but that’s not really a negative stereo type…I get it…
July 20th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
Exactly. I was talking about negative stereotypes Like KK calling Arabs terrorists. Is that so hard for you to understand?
Most people don’t care about positive stereotypes.
July 20th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
Most Arabs will not be instead if you thought theywrre rich, but they will get insulted if you call them terrorists.
Rocket science!
July 20th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
Insulted*
They were*
July 20th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
Raider O Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
You don’t know me, so you don’t know how I feel. You are making assumptions again. If you don’t want people to stereotype you, then don’t do it to others.
You never had a problem with others steteotyping/ being racist towards Arabs, so I should assume you encourage it or that you are racist?
Maybe you are racist
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I don’t know you truth, only know you by your words.
I have had convo’s with the racist that came on. Raider Ray comes to mind, not once did I match or go to his level with name calling or stereo types
I would ask him questions to get his view point.
As for me being racist, the guys who have met me white, brown, yellow, red, and blk will testify what they beleive I am….
July 20th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
Raider O Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
Most Arabs will not be instead if you thought theywrre rich, but they will get insulted if you call them terrorists.
Rocket science!
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I got ya O… I have never really been into going back and forth I know where you stand, so I will keep it moving….
July 20th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
Raider O Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 9:57 am
KoolKell Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 9:52 am
Guns ,Explosives, Gas Masks…………..Middle East?
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Should I stereotype you too?
Let’s see:
Guns, drugs, unemployment, and 40’s …………. Black culture?!?
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Like I said, I was making a point.
July 20th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
“Science flies you to the moon. Religion flies you into buildings”. (Richard Dawkins)
July 20th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
It’s very simple:
If you don’t want me to isult you/ stereotype you, etc… Then don’t do it to me. I didn’t move here so I can tolerate your racist crap.
July 20th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
Insult*
July 20th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
Raptor Jesus and the flying spaghetti monster love all!
July 20th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
Yo, seeing my Blog Brahs are keeping it real, bagging on sad old troll Krap Krap
Sweet job brohams, gotta light up the old fool when he steps out of line
Like Young MC used to do
Yo, Dwight is getting ready to sign on the dotted line, shout out to our farm team the Orlando Magic
Keep grooming those Hall of Fame centers for the Purple & Gold so we can throw more banners up at America’s Hoop Mecca – Staples Center
Big Ups to Nokia Live, swizzle
July 20th, 2012 at 3:30 pm
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHH WWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!
Just dropped a 39 inch, 24 and 1/2 ounce duece center line on the kithchen table. Thats how I roll.
SMITHSONIAN AND GUINNESS TIME
July 20th, 2012 at 3:35 pm
Orlando is gaying up these trade talks with reckless abandon..
1300 posts. its sticky as green crack again..
July 20th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
Don’t worry Brahs, our farm team the Magic won’t let us down
We’ll be getting our next Hall of Fame center to help us win more championships any day now
Of course he’ll be perfectly groomed and just entering his prime, exactly the way we expect
Keeping it real with Shaquille O’Neal
July 20th, 2012 at 3:54 pm
Shocking News…Kenny Britt arrested on DWI chargers…How about Stop Breaking the law @$$-Hole!
July 20th, 2012 at 4:00 pm
52 days, 3 hours, 15 minutes till we unleash the nasty on SD.
July 20th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
YO DUDES!
me and my girlfriend are havin guests over tonite for some entertainment. we’ll be drinkin gallo wine and eating little ceasers pizza. we aint got nothin to hide. my girlfriend has an ex too, like me. but hers wasn’t a man, she was a thumpin jack bumpin bruisin momma who treated her badly, but i’ve taken her under my wings and we get it on. we’re good timin.
HOLLA HOLLA WHEN THE HEAT GETS HOTTA
July 20th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
Missus Beeecham Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
YO DUDES!
me and my girlfriend are havin guests over tonite for some entertainment.
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You mean, your hand is having guests over, you hand fkr.
July 20th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 11:45 am
be back later fellas with news about my favorite team – The SEAHAWKS!!!!
July 20th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
Thec Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 1:25 pm
the Seahawks gonna be the team to beat this year.
July 20th, 2012 at 5:06 pm
The Big Banana Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 4:00 pm
52 days, 3 hours, 15 minutes till we get the nasty released on us by SD.
July 20th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
Missus Beeecham Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
YO DUDES!
me and my boyfriend are havin guests over tonite for some entertainment. we’ll be drinkin gallo wine and eating little ceasers pizza. we aint got nothin to hide. my boyfriend has an ex too, like me. but his wasn’t a man, his was a thumpin jack bumpin bruisin excon who treated him badly, but i’ve taken him under my wings and we get it on. we’re good timin.
HOLLA HOLLA WHEN THE HEAT GETS HOTTA
July 20th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
“That’s not Raiderness man, it’s being a d1ck, plain and simple.”
Lighten up it was meant for KK not your goofy inbreed ass.
And by the way Dlck is something that you suck not what I am.
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You mean inbred, or are you inbred Schithead? Go Fk yourself
July 20th, 2012 at 5:42 pm
Preey good video A BREAKDOWN OF THE AFC WEST. I enjoyed it. Check it
http://youtu.be/CPx8AnAcch4
July 20th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
Oakland Raiders Logo and Colors Have a Rich and Interesting History http://raidernationtimes.com/article.php?id=9020
July 20th, 2012 at 6:11 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKdSmixF6lk
July 20th, 2012 at 6:52 pm
Blame the movie on this tragedy….nope.
All one has to ask when something like this happens is who benefits from it?
Sadly, this event will lead to other freedoms taken away from the citizens of this country.
What do I think happened?
Easy.
Watch this video and you will understand:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oC9J6O6soHA
Start to think for yourself.
July 20th, 2012 at 7:02 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 10:59 am
71 people shot. The U S Army don’t shoot that many people at one time, in Afghanisthan
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Yeah, really strange thing about that….how the Taliban don’t all congregate closely together in a movie theater for us.
July 20th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
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July 20th, 2012 at 7:32 pm
Backstageatapuppetshow Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 6:52 pm
Blame the movie on this tragedy….nope.
All one has to ask when something like this happens is who benefits from it?
Sadly, this event will lead to other freedoms taken away from the citizens of this country.
What do I think happened?
Easy.
Watch this video and you will understand:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oC9J6O6soHA
Start to think for yourself.
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Damn, I hope you’re not saying this was a govt job, are you?
July 20th, 2012 at 8:12 pm
TxRaider210
I was wrong I and I should not have started shlt with you.
We are cool lets get back to Raider talk.
Palmer is going to shock everyone next year!
July 20th, 2012 at 8:14 pm
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July 20th, 2012 at 8:24 pm
Good evening.NATION
and all my GreenParty brothers.!!!
July 20th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
YO DUDES
just polishin my big roll today gettin ready to tube it. any of you dudes know how i can preserve it and put it on display at local muesuems? i named it ‘anaconda my big rhonda’
July 20th, 2012 at 8:43 pm
http://www.nfl.com/
Great NFL site with all the latest. A must. Except not enough Raider talk. There almost turnoing into a talking head kinda news feed, complete with the drama. But once in a while something crops up. Judge for yourself, don’t take my word for it.
July 20th, 2012 at 9:13 pm
NFL.com, really, who knew?
July 20th, 2012 at 9:20 pm
The NFL has a web site now? Maybe this internet thing really is for real….
July 20th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
666 fighting with another poster, now. What a surprise. Seems to be a common denominator here. Every fight on this blog, 666 is in it. Maybe soon the mods will take notice.
July 20th, 2012 at 10:11 pm
1479.Silverandblack666 Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 8:12 pm
TxRaider210
I was wrong I and I should not have started shlt with you.
We are cool lets get back to Raider talk.
Palmer is going to shock everyone next year!
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Yeah cuz everyone thinks he’s gonna suck for some reason.
He came on strong at the end of the season; he was finally getting his bearings.
I predict we’ll see more of the SD games Palmer then the GB game one.
I’ll listen to what YOU guys say about the Raiders cuz I know you care enough to watch the games and follow this team much closer than those “analysts” do.
I like Paul Gutierrez’s takes too.
That’s about it anymore.
July 20th, 2012 at 10:15 pm
Cornfucious say man who look for horse he is riding probly have trouble making water on a very cold day.
July 20th, 2012 at 10:18 pm
It’s all perception.
Some guys here see a team that was lucky to go 8-8 by virtue of eeking out some close games.
Others see a team that was a few defensive stops away from getting a first round bye.
The Talking Heads? Besides that “you may ask yourself” song they haven’t done much good stuff. But seriously, the media don’t even watch the Raiders. They google “Raiders” and then re-word what they see and offer their opinions.
July 20th, 2012 at 10:19 pm
Cornfucious say back door man also rear ender.
July 21st, 2012 at 12:12 am
The Talking Heads? Besides that “you may ask yourself” song they haven’t done much good stuff. But seriously, the media don’t even watch the Raiders. They google “Raiders” and then re-word what they see and offer their opinions.
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Have to consider the East coast bias too. All they know is Peyton went to Denver, so the Donks get all the love. But as I said before, let them hate!
July 21st, 2012 at 5:04 am
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/20/chan-gailey-bills-roster-not-even-close-to-team-i-inherited/
2 of those guys are Morrison & Hagan, just sayin’
going into their 3rd offseason, Reggie & Dennis will be talking about how to improve a team the just won the Super Bowl under Palmer & McFadden!!
July 21st, 2012 at 5:08 am
Brett Favre is the new OC & QB Coach at Oak Grove High School in Hattiesburg, Mississippi.
their starting QB [whoever that is] will throw 30 INT’s and expose himself to the hottest chick in the yearbook committee!!
July 21st, 2012 at 5:16 am
RR whats up brother
July 21st, 2012 at 5:18 am
Appears Nets near deal for Nazr Mohammed
Suns reach two-year deal to bring back Shannon Brown
Warriors, Wolves interested in Kirilenko… or maybe he chooses Moscow
Lakers reach two-year deal to keep center Jordan Hill
July 21st, 2012 at 5:19 am
celtics keep getting better
July 21st, 2012 at 5:24 am
not much mcskinnny. just playing Madden. waiting for my wife and son to wake up so we can stir up some breakfast. thought I’d pop in and see if there was any new news or thought provoking debates going on in here that I missed after work yesterday (nope!!)
how are you, bro ??
July 21st, 2012 at 5:26 am
im getting better(wisdom teeth removed)thanks for asking whats system are you on im on ps3
July 21st, 2012 at 5:28 am
i want a new nike jersey
July 21st, 2012 at 5:33 am
@ mcskinnny
this should tell you how much I play video games and what a priority they are to me:
I’m playing Madden 07 on my PS2 , lol
July 21st, 2012 at 5:34 am
omg dude lol
July 21st, 2012 at 5:37 am
I got it on Franchise mode because half the players on this game are retired, haha
plus I love picking all 53 guys on my roster and playing the salary cap game.. get my beancounting on !!
July 21st, 2012 at 5:40 am
dude get the kids a ps3 they’ll love it plus youll love madden on it and its a blu ray player so the kids can watch their movies and you can stream netflix. for 250$ its a very good investment
July 21st, 2012 at 5:41 am
oh sorry i kept saying kids i meant kid
July 21st, 2012 at 5:47 am
he’s only 20 months old, learning his numbers & alphabet.
I’ve still got some time, lol
the Raiders HC on this game was Art Shell, but I replaced him with Rob Ryan and i’m kicking some tail. just beat the Jets 59-17
July 21st, 2012 at 5:50 am
lol they gotta learn young thers games for young children to and the netflix the kids love it all there fav shows are on it spoil yourself dude lol. madden 13 is gonna be sick!
July 21st, 2012 at 5:57 am
time to go fire up the skillet and throw some bacon & sausage on there
get my coffee brewin’
nice chattin with ya bro. have a great weekend
hopefully Monday we’ll be talking about Bergs & Criner signing their contracts!!
July 21st, 2012 at 6:00 am
alright man have a good weekend
July 21st, 2012 at 6:18 am
I got a PS3 and we don’t use it for any video games.
My wife does all her fitness stuff on there, use it to watch blu-rays (it’s in the bed room), play music in the morning, etc.
The only games we have are Dance Central’s, lol
July 21st, 2012 at 7:18 am
First hole a bogey for El Tigre.
May be another Saturday faceplant from our buddy.
July 21st, 2012 at 7:50 am
I didn’t read the 1500 comments but I did catch some Carson Palmer talk.
These are Palmer’s number over the final 3 games, with the playoffs on the line, average per game:
Completed 25 out of 36 attempts for a 68.8 completion percentage and 340 yards per game with 4 TD’s and 3 INT’s.
Again, that’s the final 3 games average.
Those are great numbers, we could have used a couple more TD’s but overall, the completion percentage and yardage totals were excellent.
People focusing on the INT’s are missing the whole picture, he threw 16 in 10 games, pretty bad when you look at it, but 10 picks came in 3 games, in the other 7 he threw just 6.
All of this while missing probably the most important elements for a QB’s success in today’s game (besides pure talent and that’s not an issue) which are chemistry, familiarity and continuity with his teammates.
Palmer is still younger than Manning, Brady and Brees and less than a year older than Eli, Romo or Vick, there’s no reason Palmer can’t be as good as any of those guys if people around him remain in relative good health and Knapp’s offense gives him a chance to make plays.
July 21st, 2012 at 7:55 am
Palmer is the least of my concerns as far as making an AFC West run.
Super Bowl run? Yeah, he needs to clean up a lot of that stuff if we are going to fancy ourselves making a run for the Lombardi.
But we can win the division basically with him playing marginally better than he did last year.
I anticipate however, that he will be much more improved than marginally.
July 21st, 2012 at 8:09 am
Great review of the Raiders by CBS Sports:
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/19615948/oakland-raiders
July 21st, 2012 at 8:28 am
19 Jul darren mcfadden @dmcfadden20
I can’t promise nobody I wont get INJURED kuz I can’t control that but I promise I will go SUPER hard every time I step on tha field #truth
July 21st, 2012 at 8:34 am
Why do liberals hate America?
Sincerely,
mope & change
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KoolKell Says:
July 20th, 2012 at 10:14 am
America is sick.
July 21st, 2012 at 8:41 am
Yeah, I thought that was a very well-written writeup on us.
Pretty alamring that McFadden hasn’t topped 610 yards rushing in 3 of his 4 years.
July 21st, 2012 at 8:47 am
Raiders for life Says:
July 21st, 2012 at 8:28 am
19 Jul darren mcfadden @dmcfadden20
I can’t promise nobody I wont get INJURED kuz I can’t control that but I promise I will go SUPER hard every time I step on tha field #truth
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DMAC will play in all 16 games this year.
July 21st, 2012 at 8:50 am
Good writeup from CBS. It’s all about McFadden once again. Healthy McFadden = playoffs
July 21st, 2012 at 9:11 am
Lofa Tatupu injured.
this is why the Raiders passed last year,,and this year.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/21/falcons-lb-lofa-tatupu-injured-in-pre-camp-workout/
July 21st, 2012 at 9:14 am
That was a decent article however, based on his predictions, that 9-7 record is good for 3rd place behind den and sd.
What this really says to me is that the AFC west will be an improved div, and no longer be the doormat div of the NFL.
July 21st, 2012 at 10:02 am
http://www.alternet.org/health/139243
July 21st, 2012 at 10:15 am
1517.Thec Says:
July 21st, 2012 at 8:47 am
Raiders for life Says:
July 21st, 2012 at 8:28 am
19 Jul darren mcfadden @dmcfadden20
I can’t promise nobody I wont get INJURED kuz I can’t control that but I promise I will go SUPER hard every time I step on tha field #truth
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DMAC will play in all 16 games this year.
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DMAC is in a weird position.
His injuries (no fault of his own necessarily) might literally cost him millions and millions of dollars, and he could rightly see that as what he gets for playing hard and trying to win.
On the other hand, if he plays half azz to avoid injuries than he’s no longer the gamebreaker that would merit those millions and millions. It’s a catch 22.
Part of me out of frustration was getting ticked off at him for not “manning up” and playing last yr. when it appeared all it was was a foot sprain. I was thinking “take a shot and get your azz out on the field”. A lot of guys in here were talking the same stuff.
Some in here were even suggesting he didn’t wanna go all out for Hue. I don’t believe that, but man it was frustrating.
July 21st, 2012 at 10:16 am
MistaBrown Says:
July 21st, 2012 at 8:34 am
Why do liberals hate America?
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I think the better question is why do conservatives who claim to love this country so much, then take their money out of this country and create jobs in other countries? Oh right, because they are “job creators” who “love” this country. Or else because their followers are complete idiotic dupes. But it’s OK Jamista. That American flag you are waving was actually made in Communist China. By conservatives.
July 21st, 2012 at 10:27 am
That CBS article was actually one that was written by someone who took the time and effort to do the research necessary to make a balanced evaluation.
It is the first one i’ve read by a national media guy this yr. in that regard.
As opposed to that retarded inbreed from Walter Football whose “analysis” ended with “Is Art Shell still the coach”?
Hahahaha. Hilarious.
Idiot.
July 21st, 2012 at 10:30 am
The CBS guy made a good point about the Raiders “changing coaches as often as they change their socks”.
That was one of the big reasons I didn’t even want Cable fired. If nothing else than for continuity.
I do understand however why the Hue firing had to take place.
July 21st, 2012 at 10:35 am
Nobody has addressed what Reggie might do with that 5 million under the cap money.
Does he sit on it? Does it benefit the Raiders not to spend it?
We heard a lot about how Reggie is cash strapped…he even said it himself and now with this “extra” money it seems now would be the time to go after another guy to help the team so whomever it is can be ready for training camp.
5 mill. can get you someone pretty decent.
July 21st, 2012 at 10:42 am
DJ Johnny Says:
July 21st, 2012 at 10:35 am
Nobody has addressed what Reggie might do with that 5 million under the cap money.
Does he sit on it? Does it benefit the Raiders not to spend it?
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Yes and yes. As I wrote earlier this week expect a training camp injury. To a major player. It’s something that is going to happen. With a bit of cap space we can probably fill that void and get ready for the season.
July 21st, 2012 at 10:49 am
“These are Palmer’s number over the final 3 games, with the playoffs on the line, average per game:
Completed 25 out of 36 attempts for a 68.8 completion percentage and 340 yards per game with 4 TD’s and 3 INT’s.
Again, that’s the final 3 games average.
Those are great numbers, we could have used a couple more TD’s but overall, the completion percentage and yardage totals were excellent.
People focusing on the INT’s are missing the whole picture, he threw 16 in 10 games, pretty bad when you look at it, but 10 picks came in 3 games, in the other 7 he threw just 6.
All of this while missing probably the most important elements for a QB’s success in today’s game (besides pure talent and that’s not an issue) which are chemistry, familiarity and continuity with his teammates.
Palmer is still younger than Manning, Brady and Brees and less than a year older than Eli, Romo or Vick, there’s no reason Palmer can’t be as good as any of those guys if people around him remain in relative good health and Knapp’s offense gives him a chance to make plays.”
TAKE THAT Palmer haters!!
July 21st, 2012 at 10:54 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
July 21st, 2012 at 10:49 am
“These are Palmer’s number over the final 3 games, with the playoffs on the line, average per game:
Completed 25 out of 36 attempts for a 68.8 completion percentage and 340 yards per game with 4 TD’s and 3 INT’s.
Again, that’s the final 3 games average.
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That is basically 9.5 yards per ATTEMPT. Or in other words each pass play Palmer tried averaged a lst down. On each attempt. With everything on the line. Sounds pretty good to me…
July 21st, 2012 at 11:01 am
MistaBrown Says:
July 21st, 2012 at 8:34 am
Why do liberals hate America?
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This would be so funny if it wasn’t crazy and scary. Didn’t Rudolf Hess, Goehring and Hitler say the same things the conservatives are now spewing? This country was founded under the most liberal principles ever created. As time went on the great advances this country has made were the liberal advances. In the last century the league of nations, the social security and medical insurance provisions earlier in the century were followed by the civil rights advances in the middle of the century. Those were all liberal advances. Then the conservatives took over, and we had wars, deficits, recessions, divisions and decay. Just like Nazi Germany.
July 21st, 2012 at 11:10 am
Part of me out of frustration was getting ticked off at him for not “manning up” and playing last yr. when it appeared all it was was a foot sprain. I was thinking “take a shot and get your azz out on the field”. A lot of guys in here were talking the same stuff.
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And Hue every week saying “McFadden is week to week, he could be out one or two weeks” then on and on and on.
July 21st, 2012 at 11:17 am
Yall wanna see a hilarious vid, go to youtube and search Felonious Monk, click the first vid. lmao
July 21st, 2012 at 11:26 am
I am sure McFadden didn’t appreciate Hue saying he was week to week, when he really wasn’t.
Made him look bad, and these athletes today care more about “looking bad” more so than ever.
July 21st, 2012 at 11:37 am
1526.DJ Johnny Says:
July 21st, 2012 at 10:35 am
Nobody has addressed what Reggie might do with that 5 million under the cap money.
Does he sit on it? Does it benefit the Raiders not to spend it?
We heard a lot about how Reggie is cash strapped…he even said it himself and now with this “extra” money it seems now would be the time to go after another guy to help the team so whomever it is can be ready for training camp.
5 mill. can get you someone pretty decent.
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I don’t know, I don’t see Reg as an impulse buyer. Seems to be more of a coupon cutter and will stick to his budget. Hopefully in a year or two Reg can bring in some high money players that actually want to play for the Raiders. Seymore Bush makes a good point though…If a key player is injured Reg may have no choice.
July 21st, 2012 at 12:08 pm
PM PARTY PATROL IN FULL EFFECT
Yo yo yo my Blog Hizzles, what the haps?
The party has already started here at the Beeech Pad, the Beeeech Lawg just clocked his 4th stripper BJ.
So you know them kitties be purrrin’
The box of Australian lobster tails just arrived and the hibachi is straight fired up. Yo, just gotta jumpstart the PARTYDUDE 8000 and bag on a KrappyRat a few dozen times
Gonna rock the Bike XXXL all day by the jacuzzzi, hope my nads don’t get accidentally licked by a shorty
BAGELS N LOX WITH MY HOMEY RICK FOX
July 21st, 2012 at 12:16 pm
Beech Dawg.
If a fat stripper shows up acting like she’s hot but she’s not, it might be my ex girlfriend.
Feel free to throw her off the side of the boat.
July 21st, 2012 at 12:18 pm
I don’t know, I don’t see Reg as an impulse buyer. Seems to be more of a coupon cutter and will stick to his budget. Hopefully in a year or two Reg can bring in some high money players that actually want to play for the Raiders. Seymore Bush makes a good point though…If a key player is injured Reg may have no choice.
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its what he’s savin up for.
same with resigning his own stars like DMC and DHB once they both really show up on the scene in 2012.
get yourself in ‘cap jail’ and it will hinder you from retaining your home grown talents.
with that said, he can afford to go get someone once their price tag plummets, which is actually coming right up when TC starts up next week. they will panic and sign with one of the teams interested. i say EJ Henderson … even though he wants a starting roll somewhere. i’d give it to him over McSlow
July 21st, 2012 at 12:20 pm
Was watching some stuff on NFLN, and they were scrolling the Thursday night schedule.
Picks up at the end of the season, but man a bunch of horrible games to start the year.
INdy-Jax, Buff-MIa, TB-Minny, SF-Sea………snoozefest
July 21st, 2012 at 12:21 pm
crap, anyone see the Chokers signed Franklin? … more reclamation projects like GAITHER for the Doltz, wonderful.
Franklin is what this team needed, and i bet they got him for cheap. does this mean they’ll truly go with TK when they go 3-4? (doesn’t look possible with the current LB corp regardless)
July 21st, 2012 at 12:28 pm
Yo DJ in the HIZZY
Don’t worry brah, my “Welcome to the Beeeech Pad” welcome mat is actually a scale in disguise
Numbers get texted to my iPad, word
But now I’m straight freakin’, cause you know how them large mommas can smell lobster tails n butter 5 states away
7 if the trade winds are blowin
July 21st, 2012 at 1:30 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 21st, 2012 at 12:20 pm
Was watching some stuff on NFLN, and they were scrolling the Thursday night schedule.
Picks up at the end of the season, but man a bunch of horrible games to start the year.
INdy-Jax, Buff-MIa, TB-Minny, SF-Sea………snoozefest
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i agree
hey check this out, except for the ‘Knapp will do with DMC what he did with Foster’ comment that’s obviously wrong, he’s pretty much hits the nail on the head:
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/19615948/oakland-raiders
July 21st, 2012 at 1:37 pm
btw, he validates what i’ve been saying about Criner being the next TJ HOUSH for NaPalmer … good times.
July 21st, 2012 at 1:50 pm
Yeah, I read that piece earlier, thought it was spot on for the most part.
July 21st, 2012 at 1:51 pm
Wow, that big fat azz closer for the Dodgers was yelling at Hairston on that last K.
That could be interesting tomorrow on getaway day.
I will be tuning in hoping for all good ol fashioned donnybrook.
July 21st, 2012 at 1:56 pm
Interesting article .
July 21st, 2012 at 1:59 pm
I hope one thing that changes with Reggie is that there’ll be no more players playing great in the pre season then suddenly being cut.
July 21st, 2012 at 2:01 pm
I know Darren has struggled with injury, but I was somewhat alarmed that he has less than 615 yards rushing in 3 of his 4 years.
Whose our backup RB again?
July 21st, 2012 at 2:04 pm
Well, if Taiwan Jones can’t cut it as an NFL RB….he will be the Raiders next shut down CB.
Don’t print that.
July 21st, 2012 at 2:06 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 21st, 2012 at 1:56 pm
Interesting article .
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Go back to sleep, old troll
July 21st, 2012 at 2:13 pm
19 Jul darren mcfadden @dmcfadden20
Yea what cel saidRT @CelReece45: @TaiwanJonesNFL you know me and @dmcfadden20 got you….for whatever, RBs stick together
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I like to hear stuff like this.
July 21st, 2012 at 2:16 pm
Hmmmmm
No mention of Goodson.
July 21st, 2012 at 2:16 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 21st, 2012 at 2:01 pm
I know Darren has struggled with injury, but I was somewhat alarmed that he has less than 615 yards rushing in 3 of his 4 years.
Whose our backup RB again?
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statistically, DMC’s chances of staying healthy are good … he’s BOUND to have an injury free season. unless of course he’s the next Bob Sanders … then we’re screwed!
not to change the subject, but you see Natey battin lead off right now JFB? we were just talkin about this weren’t we? Nate just had a stand up double.. BOOM!
July 21st, 2012 at 2:18 pm
I get screwed on the Sat baseball, fox national broadcast thing.
Was about to go to the garage and listen to the XM feed from my car.
Good for Nate, against a lefty starter no less.
July 21st, 2012 at 2:20 pm
that was a bogus tag up getting him out .. bad luck.
they scored ANYWAY 4-2 PHILLY PHAGS!
July 21st, 2012 at 2:21 pm
you dont have HD? channel 708 !
July 21st, 2012 at 2:22 pm
well wait .. that’s not a nationally broadcasted channel, not even on HD. nvm.
July 21st, 2012 at 2:25 pm
yea dude .. Hamels is a beast. good sign he’s hittin
he just said the other day ‘looks like my time with the Giants are about over’ because he wasn’t getting the start over Blanco.
way to show what you’re worth. it certainly makes the Giants have to think twice before they use him as a trading piece.
they could realistically put Blanco at the bottom of the batting order, in place of Theriot, although he’s lightin it up lately.
July 21st, 2012 at 2:27 pm
I only get the Fox broadcast (Angels-Rangers), the MLB Mix station doesn’t even show anything else.
Pretty bad taht you pay $300 for the Extra Innings package, and you still miss games on Saturday’s.
July 21st, 2012 at 2:28 pm
No sense trading Nate, good lefty off the bench, with experience both pinch-hitting and starting, and who is a plus defender.
Hitting leadoff is a little “outside the box” thinking-wise, but so far so good it seems.
July 21st, 2012 at 2:29 pm
dude $300 ? is that like the sunday ticket? and you dont get the Giro’s … lame.
July 21st, 2012 at 2:30 pm
well Myers just went to HOU … i wanted the Giants to trade for him. Houston Street is still on the market … they need a closer man. Castilla sucks, plain and simple.
July 21st, 2012 at 2:32 pm
with that said, COL would have to give up Street and someone else for Nate.
hey how about that A’s win last night? man they usually don’t have problems racking up the scoreboard.. the yankers kept it close … only because they aren’t at home hitting home runs, lol.
PS A’s should go get Rollins, the Oakland boy!
July 21st, 2012 at 2:33 pm
Yup, the baseball version of the Sunday ticket.
I get all Giants game (the main reason I buy it), but if my regional Sat fox game is on at the same time (like right now) I get nothing.
July 21st, 2012 at 2:35 pm
Casilla scares the crap out of me, I would rather see Romo in the 9th.
July 21st, 2012 at 2:35 pm
J Roll would be perfect for the A’s.
Pennington, Ergard or whatever, are all glove no bat.
July 21st, 2012 at 2:42 pm
exactly!
Rollins would retire at home. it would be beasty.
yea they have something special going on, especially if they sweep NY. every night it’s a new guy hitting a walkoff homer or a walk off base hit .. they have timely hitting and POWER … with the BEST PITCHING IN THE MAJORS. wait, say what?! THE OAKLAND PATHETICS?! haha!
July 21st, 2012 at 2:43 pm
Interesting read from an amateur writer on Gather.com
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Brandon Jacobs and LaMichael James additions crowd Hunter
The San Francisco 49ers have had an offseason that has gone down as anything but normal. While adding receivers Randy Moss and Mario Manningham earned credit from fans and experts, it was their puzzling moves at running back that had some scratching their heads. On an offense that already had starter Frank Gore and his able rookie backup Kendall Hunter, the front office not only signed veteran power back Brandon Jacobs but also the speedy talent from Oregon in LaMichael James. Coaches will say it’s hard enough getting two running backs involved in the offense. Now the 49ers have four who will want to see the football. The moves are even more curious since some think 2012 could become a breakout season for Hunter. Last season he carried and caught the ball for 668 yards and two touchdowns. NFL expert Greg Rosenthal went so far as to compare Hunter to dynamite All-Pro back Darren Sproles of the New Orléans Saints. However with Jacobs and James on the roster, could San Francisco use him as trade bait? A team like Oakland might find great value in Hunter when teamed with McFadden. It would also give Carson Palmer a target out of the backfield.
July 21st, 2012 at 2:43 pm
I wish we woulda kept Cable for continuity. Dude was makin progress and players liked him. He was a big slob and didn’t care, plus he was a pimp handed mean machine. Wish Al woulda kept him, but so we move on. Nero didn’t build rome in a day, but he sure burned it in a night. Po little Cable boy.
July 21st, 2012 at 2:43 pm
dmn that blows man.
like blacked out raider games .. even though the last 2 years have been splendid in that category! they will only get better and be blackedoutless from here on out.
July 21st, 2012 at 2:44 pm
3 run shot for Howard. 5-4 PHAGS … GRRRRRRR
July 21st, 2012 at 2:48 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
July 21st, 2012 at 1:59 pm
I hope one thing that changes with Reggie is that there’ll be no more players playing great in the pre season then suddenly being cut.
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You know that aint gonna happen cuz reggie will have both eyes on the players, unless he gets a better return, we’ll be keepin the better players. I think Al was being given wrong and erronious reports and that is why we didn’t keep the better guys. I blame that on his soothesayers and wizards.
July 21st, 2012 at 2:59 pm
Busta,
too much bad blood .. he wanted to be a HC somewhere else, and settled for an asst HC role .. not like he’s dazzling anyone in SEA. they will continue to be bottom dwellers. i like our chances with a modern day WCO, zone blocking powerhouse offense with the #1 back in the NFL when healthy!
Curly = not needed
July 21st, 2012 at 3:07 pm
Yep, if Sterling Moore becomes a shut down corner, I will be a little disappointed.
July 21st, 2012 at 3:07 pm
i swear to god Milky and Posey together back to back is as potent as any duo in the league. Milky with a single run shot to tie it, and Posey with a stand up double… craziness.
July 21st, 2012 at 3:12 pm
I hate baseball on Fox. Joe Buck is unbearable. I miss baseball being on the peacock. Bob Costas, Scully, et al. Just seemed like a more innocent game then, didn’t it?
July 21st, 2012 at 3:18 pm
Things that should go away now that also should help us win a couple of extra games per year
1) Al scholarship. This explains those players playing good then disappearing.
2) Prevent defense when it’s not necessary. How many times did we let teams just walk right into FG range with less than 2 minutes left, while up by less than 3?
We died by these two things so habitually since the late ’80s that by getting rid of them I bet we had 2 wins a year automatically.
July 21st, 2012 at 3:19 pm
*add two wins a year
July 21st, 2012 at 3:31 pm
yea Fox baseball blows. i agree
July 21st, 2012 at 3:55 pm
NBC should have found a way to keep AFC football, too. They do sports better at NBC than at any of the other networks, imo. They just found a way to make it exciting and all of the people covering the games were level headed and knowledgeable. They let the players be the stars.
July 21st, 2012 at 4:03 pm
haha JFB
Blanco missed a bunt call earlier that had Posey in a pickle … preventing a run … 5-5 at that point
he comes up again with milky on 3rd, GETS THE CALLS THIS TIME and safety squeezes him home… 6-5 top of 10th .. BOOM! CLOSE IT OUT!
you were right about Romo also… he did great last inning. i’ll bet they keep him in .. i swear if Castilla comes in, i’ll cry.
July 21st, 2012 at 4:06 pm
just announced he is… NOOO!!! i guess Romo is only good for one inning.
July 21st, 2012 at 4:20 pm
wow he did it! luckily ..
6-5 victory over the Philly Phags
now it’s time to take this series from the YANKERS … A’s are going to get Hughes taken out early .. and Parker is going to be lights out like Milone was last night!
July 21st, 2012 at 4:22 pm
OMG the Doltz signed Franklin and now Battle? good goin Reg, Battle could have been of great value on short yardage plays.. sigh… guess we will do without one of those this year.
July 21st, 2012 at 8:10 pm
testing… 1,2,3
July 21st, 2012 at 8:16 pm
1583.xraided Says:
July 21st, 2012 at 4:22 pm
OMG the Doltz signed Franklin and now Battle? good goin Reg, Battle could have been of great value on short yardage plays.. sigh… guess we will do without one of those this year.
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X=impulse buyer
July 21st, 2012 at 8:56 pm
well Battle probably didn’t sign for much… and we could have used his skills. tell me i’m lying.
better than Benson, who wants half of what Reggie has to work with. Battle probably comes at vet minimum or somewhere near it.
July 21st, 2012 at 8:57 pm
Derrick Ward rips NFL players who drive drunk
Posted by Michael David Smith on July 21, 2012, 7:15 PM EDT
AP
Derrick Ward, the former NFL running back who announced his retirement this month, has some harsh words for the NFL players who have been getting arrested for drunk driving this year at a pace of about two a month.
In a series of messages on his verified Twitter account, Ward went off on NFL players who drive drunk, calling them “dumb,” “stupid” and “ridiculous,” among other things, while noting that every NFL player makes enough money to afford to have someone else drive him, and telling players that they should walk before driving drunk if they can’t get a ride.
Derrick Ward
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@DerrickWard32
Alright NFL players!!! Its absolutely E-N-O-U-G-H!!! Drinking and Driving? How dumb can u be? Its absolutely stupid and your making the good
21 Jul 12 ReplyRetweetFavorite
“Alright NFL players!!! Its absolutely E-N-O-U-G-H!!! Drinking and Driving? How dumb can u be? Its absolutely stupid and your making the good guys that actually do right in the NFL look bad,” Ward wrote. “How easy is it to call a cab to get a ride home? So what? Leave your car get it in the am!? Stop being so dumb! Yes that’s right dumb! I’m sitting here retired enjoyed a great career now all I want to do is become a fan and I see numerous arrest for DWI in the past several weeks? How many has it been this week 4? Absolutely ridiculous your not only putting yourself in danger but your putting other innocent people in danger that don’t deserve your stupidity. Open your eyes and do the right thing. I know what its like to get go out get drunk and debate on weather to drive home or not. Call a taxi! So what if u spend some money to take one or U get a ticket on your car in the am when u go bac 2 get it At least u won’t have to pay bail and then lawyer fees and then miss game checks from being suspended for a few games. Damn this really has me furious and its so avoidable. Tighten up youngsters of the NFL because guess what it doesn’t mean National Football League it really means Not For Long league. There’s no excuse to drive drunk! NONE! If all else fails WALK! NFL players are world class athletes Walking should be nothing!”
Ward is, of course, absolutely right. It’s stunning how many NFL players — including Nick Fairley, Kenny Britt, Donald Washington, Marshawn Lynch, Robert Quinn, Aaron Berry, David Diehl, Justin Blackmon, Jerome Felton, Darrius Heyward-Bey, Brandon Meriweather, Knowshon Moreno and Aldon Smith — have been arrested for drunk driving this year. I would say something along the lines of, “What’s going to have to happen before they stop? Will an NFL player have to kill someone?” except that NFL players like Donte Stallworth and Leonard Little have already killed people while driving drunk. And it still hasn’t stopped.
Kudos to Ward for saying what should go without
July 21st, 2012 at 8:59 pm
A’s 3-0 against the NY WANKEEES … !!!
i’ll have my broom ready tomorrow.
this team is hot, especially Cespades .. kid is a machine! Billy Bean hasn’t completely lost his mojo, i’d rather have his hitting than Gio’s pitching.
A’s pitching = best in the majors
A’s record in July = best in the majors
10 walk off’s(from 10 different players) = best in the majors
2006 all over again! let us hope it lasts
July 21st, 2012 at 9:24 pm
Props to Derrick Ward.
Driving drunk is a major problem in this country, and most dudes who think they are tough guys laugh it off.
It’s not a laughing matter.
July 21st, 2012 at 9:50 pm
1583.xraided Says:
July 21st, 2012 at 4:22 pm
OMG the Doltz signed Franklin and now Battle? good goin Reg, Battle could have been of great value on short yardage plays.. sigh… guess we will do without one of those this year.
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This brings up an interesting question; who is THAT guy gonna be for us this yr.?
Lets face it, we didn’t have THAT guy last yr. for short yardage. Especially goal line. You at least need to have the threat you’re gonna jam it up the middle before you fake it and flip it out to DMAC to run around the edge.
I can see us being in a situation where we need that bruiser to get that one yd. like….right away and often.
Is Owen Schmitt supposed to be THAT guy?
July 21st, 2012 at 9:52 pm
Texans ranked 8th?!
So the Raiders came into the Texans house last season and beat them despite being ravaged by injuries and got ranked 22nd while the Texans lose most players worth a damn on that team and somehow finish 7th?
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/21/texans-take-seventh-spot-in-pft-preseason-power-rankings/
July 21st, 2012 at 10:06 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
July 21st, 2012 at 9:50 pm
1583.xraided Says:
July 21st, 2012 at 4:22 pm
OMG the Doltz signed Franklin and now Battle? good goin Reg, Battle could have been of great value on short yardage plays.. sigh… guess we will do without one of those this year.
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This brings up an interesting question; who is THAT guy gonna be for us this yr.?
Lets face it, we didn’t have THAT guy last yr. for short yardage. Especially goal line. You at least need to have the threat you’re gonna jam it up the middle before you fake it and flip it out to DMAC to run around the edge.
I can see us being in a situation where we need that bruiser to get that one yd. like….right away and often.
Is Owen Schmitt supposed to be THAT guy?
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Naw, Schmidt is the designated blocker. Who’s going to be our refrigerator Perry this year? Maybe Tommy Kelly would like that job.
July 21st, 2012 at 10:23 pm
Mr Greens’ to do list:
I’m drinkin the koooool aid ✔
I’m goin to all the Raidah games ✔
I’m goin to Nawleens for the Suppa Bowl ✔
Raidahs got it goin ✔
July 21st, 2012 at 10:27 pm
Tommy Kelly being our “fridge”? Sounds fun.
Let’s say it’s 4th and one against SD 1st game. We’re at their 19 yd. line and DA decides to go for it.
What do you do?
Last yr. it’d probably be Bush up the middle.
July 21st, 2012 at 10:27 pm
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July 21st, 2012 at 10:35 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
July 21st, 2012 at 10:27 pm
Tommy Kelly being our “fridge”? Sounds fun.
Let’s say it’s 4th and one against SD 1st game. We’re at their 19 yd. line and DA decides to go for it.
What do you do?
Last yr. it’d probably be Bush up the middle.
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I’m sorry but Bush was a pu$$y against a goal line formation. He never was a banger. He’s a finesse runner. Don’t you remember the 3 attempts at the one by Bush? He actually lost yardage. To make matters worse, he ran out of gas. His last 6 games he got less than 2 yards per carry. His entire year he got 3.6 YPC. That’s anything but stellar. That’s plain ordinary at best. we can and will do better this year.
July 21st, 2012 at 10:43 pm
L Houston played RB in HS.
July 21st, 2012 at 10:54 pm
That will work. Houston can be the new Zach Crockett.
July 21st, 2012 at 11:01 pm
JB,
I agree 110% about Bush. What I meant was last yr. he was the guy we’d go to in those short ydg. situations and…he’d go nowhere, so i’m curious what we do this yr. to get that short yardage.
Do we run DMAC up the middle?
When it’s 4th and one who do does DA turn to this yr.?
I know we’ll find out soon enough, but it’s always fun to prognosticate.
July 21st, 2012 at 11:04 pm
I know they won’t use him this way (at least often) but I think Pryor would be excellent in those situations.
Heck, he could just jump and/or reach out and extend the ball over the marker, or use his size to sneak it over.
I think he’d be pretty hard to stop in those situations.
July 21st, 2012 at 11:31 pm
It’s probably DMAC on 4th and1
July 22nd, 2012 at 12:47 am
do any of yall see wildcat formations with mcfadden or pryor at qb?
ive been reading (hear on the net) and on some sites they have him at the #2 qb on the roster at season start. do yall think pryor has what it takes to be a starter or back-up, anywhere?
July 22nd, 2012 at 12:47 am
(*here)
July 22nd, 2012 at 12:51 am
RAIDER FAHQIN NATION!
July 22nd, 2012 at 1:02 am
Drew Brees throws wobblers but he is accurate. (watch his highlights)
Pryor throws wobblers but needs alot of work on his accuracy.
Heck, if Brees can do it why not Pryor.
July 22nd, 2012 at 5:44 am
Interesting discussion about the Raids’ search for a short yardage/goal line battering ram and which back might fill that role.
Do we have a Zach Crockett on the roster ?
It’s a legitimate question and concern.
Bush’s failure at the KC goal line was painful.
Many of us can remember Fargas’s futility near the end zone.
Frustrating as hell not to be able to gain that final yard and get 6 or convert that 3rd and short. Often it’s the difference between winning and losing.
It’s an issue that needs addressing.
There are also other angles to consider, besides the question of ‘who is the short yardage specialist?’.
That would be:
Is the ZBS conducive to success in short yardage/power situations ?
Do the Raids have the horses in the interior line to move defenders in short yardage situations ?
Oakland’s struggles in converting short yardage and goal line opportunities should NOT be viewed only in the context of a failure on the RB’s part.
Might be time to think a little out of the box and concentrate more on short yardage line schemes that aren’t purely ZBS in nature and ‘elephant’ packages that can help whatever back is in there to get the job done.
We might need to ask ‘who is our Barrett Robbins?’ and not just ‘who is our Zach Crockett?’.
July 22nd, 2012 at 7:10 am
You guys see this yet?
http://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/20120721/NEWS/120729890/1057/SPORTS0908?Title=At-least-one-developer-thinks-A-s-have-future-in-Oakland
A developer in Sacramento wants to finance a stadium in Oakland to ensure the A’s and Raiders stay in Oakland. Haven’t read passed page 1 yet.
July 22nd, 2012 at 8:26 am
The Oakland A’s should to change team colors to Silver and Black if they want to stay in Oakland and compete. I mean really, is there a lot of energy in green and yellow? and white babseball shoes on the diamond? And why is brad pitt the gm for the A’s? Com’on man, get a real GM. The Raidahs and A’s need to become one and Coliseum City is a must. Let the W’s go back home to frisco.
Nawleens Baby!
July 22nd, 2012 at 9:08 am
Spokane Raiders Spokane
Raiders
July 22nd, 2012 at 9:39 am
If we listen to the national guys, not signing Bush was a huge blunder on the part of Reggie.
I think alot of those guys were watching the Thursday night game at SD and that stuff sticks in your mind.
I was surprised to see that Bush ranked 7th in the league as far as receiving for RB’s…in terms catchable balls to drop ratio. Chicago radio guys were talking that up the other day. Forte was # 2 in that stat.
There is definitely the perception that Bush was a big part of any potential for success for us and Reggie was foolish to let him go.
They say is DMAC goes down (and he will in their opinion) then we have noone to fill the void.
If we look at it statistically we need a guy who can get us at least 3.8 ypc. (in reality they are a dime a dozen..no offense to Bush) and a guy who can’t catch the ball on occasion.
I think Reggie realizes that which is why he was willing to save some money and let him walk to Chitown.
July 22nd, 2012 at 9:41 am
*CAN catch the ball on occasion.
July 22nd, 2012 at 9:55 am
The reason I hated to see Bush leave was if we’d kept him, we woulda had that 1-2 knockout punch outta the backfield. A must for a superior passing game from CP3. But if Big Reg has someone else in mind for the 1-2 KO, the it’s all good. I’ve still got my bags packed and ready for Nawleens..
July 22nd, 2012 at 10:00 am
I thought releasing Bush was a mistake too. Big Play, Big Back.
July 22nd, 2012 at 10:46 am
Letting Bush go was painful, but somebody had to go to make the cap. It was either him or Branch, and the Raiders need defense more than offense right now
July 22nd, 2012 at 10:51 am
If anyone’s in to superbikes, MotoGP is coming to Laguna Seca next weekend. I thought they raced only over-seas or would have planned it.lol
July 22nd, 2012 at 10:52 am
We didn’t “release” Bush, he was a FA, and went to a team that offered him more money.
RB is about the easiest position in football to replace.
As he was here, he was a very cheap insurance policy, but he would have became a fairly expensive one if we offered him the Bears offer.
July 22nd, 2012 at 10:52 am
Mr. Green
I’m drinkin the kool-aid too, until further notice!
July 22nd, 2012 at 10:55 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 22nd, 2012 at 10:52 am
We didn’t “release” Bush, he was a FA, and went to a team that offered him more money.
RB is about the easiest position in football to replace.
As he was here, he was a very cheap insurance policy, but he would have became a fairly expensive one if we offered him the Bears offer.
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Agreed, and between Forte and Bush, aren’t the Bears forking over 12 mil/yr or so?
July 22nd, 2012 at 10:55 am
It’s all in the process.
We drafted Bush in the 4th round, had great value on his rookie contract and good production, and let him walk instead of giving him a big payraise, and we will probably get a 4th or 5th round compensatory pick for him leaving.
Draft another RB in those rounds, on the cheap and so the cirle continues.
The Reggie knows what he is doing. IN a salary-cap sport, you have to let some guys walk you would love to have on your team, but only at a certain price range.
July 22nd, 2012 at 10:59 am
I think Bush is getting 14mil for 4yrs
July 22nd, 2012 at 11:07 am
If we had the salary cap space, I am sure we would have offered him something close to the Bears.
But it realistically came down to either letting Branch walk or Bush walk, and I think we obviously aren’t in the position to let defensive talent walk over offensive talent.
July 22nd, 2012 at 11:12 am
JFB,
ding-ding-ding!
we need a franchise SS over a RB, which can be found almost anywhere. wish we grabbed Battle, but the Doltz beat us to it … he would have done the same things Bush would have done.
July 22nd, 2012 at 11:13 am
BTW, one should note that it seems no other teams thought of Bush as an every down RB, as the Raiders knew this about him. that’s why he settled for another backup role.
July 22nd, 2012 at 11:21 am
http://www.ballparkdigest.com/201207225233/major-league-baseball/news/developer-i-can-build-new-as-ballpark-with-private-financing
Yep…..momentum is picking up
July 22nd, 2012 at 11:28 am
Yesterday you buddy and pal B@uce was by the Lake in Oakland and ran into City Hall guy who pushing hardest for Coliseum City named Fred Blackwell…..he recognized the B@uce from the City Hall meeting from March where the words and passion were flowing from all who stepped tothe podium….anyhow….you LA advocates can forget it lol. Raiders committed to staying home and the talks are too damn good right now…expect before 2012 an announcement on an extension of a lease. LA doesnt even wanna deal with the Davis family
But A’s owners wont even talk to city…so this lie that Wolff did all he could in Oakland is a lie and that MLB is in talks with the City….they really want a stadium in downtown Oakland more than likely
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July 22nd, 2012 at 11:28 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIaAxeEejx0
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Jackie Battle will learn not to piss off Branch, like Matthews did.
July 22nd, 2012 at 11:30 am
That Tripp dude tried to do the same with Chargers and Kings as well.
Not sure why it failed, but interesting he talks about international money (owners basically) and wonder if that stirkes an issue.
July 22nd, 2012 at 11:37 am
Interesting also, in the press democrat article, it says Quan wants to do the city center thing for A’s, Raiders, and W’s.
Tripp says he is only interested in A’s and Raiders.
Probably wants nothing to do with the Warriors ownership.
July 22nd, 2012 at 11:38 am
VR……I know….but Tripp may get the blessing here….my cousin is an architect….they should let me cousin do the design of a Jack London Stadium…he is brilliant at that schit….ever since we were good he had a knack for building stuff
downtown has already seen a change and this would bring back Jack London and make downtown that much more valuable…Oakland cant have excuses as a city anymore…time to get on with the new wave of the future and not be left behind
I’m glad Tripp got dissed in SD because dec 31 vs raiders will be last game ever in SD…they will be at LA Coliseum next fall….trust that…then Rams will be in LA by 2015
July 22nd, 2012 at 11:39 am
“In the past four and a half years, I established relationships with three private equity funds, one pension fund and a Middle Eastern investment bank who all see the value of what I’m trying to take forward for the Raiders and A’s
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I’m making Arab Money!!!!!
There it is, maybe some owners don’t want to be in bed with Middle Eastern investment banks.
There isn’t a whole lot of people in the middle East that have big-boy bucks that aren’t corrupt or in the oil game.
Slippery-slope for sure.
July 22nd, 2012 at 11:42 am
Will be interesting to see the libs who seem to hate “private equity” folks, get behind something so dire to the City of Oakland, and fully support those outsourcing, 1%’s that are the “problem , not the solution” according to BO.
July 22nd, 2012 at 11:44 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 22nd, 2012 at 11:37 am
Interesting also, in the press democrat article, it says Quan wants to do the city center thing for A’s, Raiders, and W’s.
Tripp says he is only interested in A’s and Raiders.
Probably wants nothing to do with the Warriors ownership.
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Warriors only going to SF if they go right next to the Giants and get punked by Larry Baer and still thats gonna be hard to build an arena in SF as Mark Purdy said 2 months ago…the Pier 30/32 crap wont happen….SF has most special interest groups in the country….you think those rich ppl who moved to China Basin and SOMA really want that crap there? Hell no!
Lacob will embarrassing crawl back on bended knee to Oakland and do the Coliseum City thing I believe….even so after Kings get sold convince Kings to come to Oakland…call em Oakland Kings
Lacob underestimates how much the Warrior fan base will change if he moves to SF…its not a basketball city and the real basketball fans wont be at the games
July 22nd, 2012 at 11:46 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 22nd, 2012 at 11:39 am
“In the past four and a half years, I established relationships with three private equity funds, one pension fund and a Middle Eastern investment bank who all see the value of what I’m trying to take forward for the Raiders and A’s
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I’m making Arab Money!!!!!
There it is, maybe some owners don’t want to be in bed with Middle Eastern investment banks.
There isn’t a whole lot of people in the middle East that have big-boy bucks that aren’t corrupt or in the oil game.
Slippery-slope for sure.
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And the people over here are so honest? Please big bucks is usually corrupt
July 22nd, 2012 at 11:48 am
You would know the logistics better than me, I just found it interesting that the mayor wants all three teams involved, and this dude doesn’t seem too interested in inculding the W’s.
July 22nd, 2012 at 11:49 am
Please big bucks is usually corrupt
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For sure, but no denying there is a stigma attached to “Middle East Investment banks”.
July 22nd, 2012 at 11:51 am
What happens if this city center complex goes through (hopefully), but the guys with the money behind it can’t reach any type of deal with the W’s?
The Warriors would have to figure something else out I would guess.
July 22nd, 2012 at 11:54 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 22nd, 2012 at 11:48 am
You would know the logistics better than me, I just found it interesting that the mayor wants all three teams involved, and this dude doesn’t seem too interested in inculding the W’s.
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Understand the game…..A’s are the biggest factor in all of this because if they get a deal after the fierce battle for 17 years then it opens up the doors for everyone
Also the Raiders are Oakland’s only original team an d really symbolize Oakland more than anything
You never know he could be dismissing the entire the W’s dumb presser in May and know thats all BS
July 22nd, 2012 at 11:56 am
Well, they could always call it Prince Alwaleed bin Talal stadium (That’s a joke by the way)
July 22nd, 2012 at 11:56 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 22nd, 2012 at 11:51 am
What happens if this city center complex goes through (hopefully), but the guys with the money behind it can’t reach any type of deal with the W’s?
The Warriors would have to figure something else out I would guess.
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Easy say fk you Joe Lacob and lure the Kings down to Oakland….plus W’s owe the city money…they gonna have to cash out millies plus try and build a billion dollar arena plus go thru hoops to get a stadium in SF lol
I honestly doubt the Warriors leave….wouldnt shock me if you had two nba teams playing at Coliseum City
July 22nd, 2012 at 11:57 am
BTW, those Mets playoff hopes are about over, lol.
Will be under .500 by the end of the day it looks like.
July 22nd, 2012 at 11:57 am
Raiders For Life Says:
July 22nd, 2012 at 11:56 am
Well, they could always call it Prince Alwaleed bin Talal stadium (That’s a joke by the way)
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Possibly…see Jags owner?
July 22nd, 2012 at 11:58 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 22nd, 2012 at 11:57 am
BTW, those Mets playoff hopes are about over, lol.
Will be under .500 by the end of the day it looks like.
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Santana to D list is all bad
July 22nd, 2012 at 11:59 am
I really cant believe Ernie els won today and Scott fizzled…Tiger? Damn you just cant get over it can ya?
July 22nd, 2012 at 11:59 am
If the A’s sweep the pin stripes it’s the beginning of a playoff run, likely a wild card but playoffs nevertheless.
The end
July 22nd, 2012 at 11:59 am
Who?
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Method To My Madness Says:
July 22nd, 2012 at 11:59 am
I really cant believe Ernie els won today and Scott fizzled…Tiger? Damn you just cant get over it can ya?
July 22nd, 2012 at 12:00 pm
Two NBA teams in Oakland??
King Stern would have the last say in that, and I doubt that is his ideal scenario.
July 22nd, 2012 at 12:01 pm
Is it just me or does the Colorado kunt look like a Nascar driver? End that cowards life ASAP and forget lawyers, trial, and liberals protesting the death penalty!
July 22nd, 2012 at 12:02 pm
That was a bummer to watch for Scott.
Missed sooooo many 10-14 foot putts all day.
Tiger at his best, is not the best anymore. Els is 10 years older than him almost, and outdrove him by 20-30 yards all week.
July 22nd, 2012 at 12:02 pm
MistaBrown Says:
July 22nd, 2012 at 11:59 am
Who?
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Method To My Madness Says:
July 22nd, 2012 at 11:59 am
I really cant believe Ernie els won today and Scott fizzled…Tiger? Damn you just cant get over it can ya?
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Golf…………forgive me…July is a slow month man lol
July 22nd, 2012 at 12:04 pm
B, do you have checkered polyester pants and alligator brand polo’s?
lol
July 22nd, 2012 at 12:04 pm
MistaBrown Says:
July 22nd, 2012 at 11:59 am
If the A’s sweep the pin stripes it’s the beginning of a playoff run, likely a wild card but playoffs nevertheless.
The end
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B@uce approves of this message…A’s hottest team in bigs right now…today will be tough…I dont know if Fat joe aka Bartolo Colon fastball will stop the yankees today…they struggle with off speed stuff
July 22nd, 2012 at 12:05 pm
MistaBrown Says:
July 22nd, 2012 at 12:04 pm
B, do you have checkered polyester pants and alligator brand polo’s?
lol
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Call me Rodney Dangerfield from Caddyshack
July 22nd, 2012 at 12:05 pm
#bud light w/lime
July 22nd, 2012 at 12:05 pm
Colorado has the death penalty , but haven’t used it in 35 years, and the current Governor is against it.
Hopefully this will wake them up, and they inject that bastard in no time flat.
July 22nd, 2012 at 12:07 pm
Tiger at his best, is not the best anymore. Els is 10 years older than him almost, and outdrove him by 20-30 yards all week.
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Someone needs to invite 10 blonde pornstars and have them at the green all day long so my guy can have some motivation
Tiger Tiger Woods yall
July 22nd, 2012 at 12:07 pm
Because liberals fight it tooth and nail.
Liberalism is a mental disorder that should be treated with medication, see MR,SeymourBush, and KK for reference.
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Just Fire Baby Says:
July 22nd, 2012 at 12:05 pm
Colorado has the death penalty , but haven’t used it in 35 years, and the current Governor is against it.
July 22nd, 2012 at 12:08 pm
I’ll get word to Bill Clinton.
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Method To My Madness Says:
July 22nd, 2012 at 12:07 pm
Someone needs to invite 10 blonde pornstars and have them at the green all day long so my guy can have some motivation
July 22nd, 2012 at 12:09 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 22nd, 2012 at 12:00 pm
Two NBA teams in Oakland??
King Stern would have the last say in that, and I doubt that is his ideal scenario.
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Stern will not be commish by the end of the decade for damn sure…that lil runt already said it during the draft
Oakland’s economics are rapidly moving and with the new stuff by the airport which will connect to Coliseum city a two team house there in oakland would thrive becuz we are basketball crazy here in the east bay
July 22nd, 2012 at 12:10 pm
Tiger’s a total front-runner too.
Never won a major when he wasn’t leading going into Sunday, and like today he usually folds and falls apart the middle of Sunday once he realizes he can’t win.
July 22nd, 2012 at 12:10 pm
Dude in Colorado is a loser….I agree someone put him down…the entire act is disgusting
July 22nd, 2012 at 12:11 pm
Do not rent the DVD’ Junkyard Dog.
Vivica Fox is at the end of her career if she is doing garbage like this.
July 22nd, 2012 at 12:11 pm
MistaBrown Says:
July 22nd, 2012 at 12:08 pm
I’ll get word to Bill Clinton.
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Method To My Madness Says:
July 22nd, 2012 at 12:07 pm
Someone needs to invite 10 blonde pornstars and have them at the green all day long so my guy can have some motivation
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He didnt inhale but he wished he did….and Iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii love Hilary….gasp
July 22nd, 2012 at 12:12 pm
MistaBrown Says:
July 22nd, 2012 at 12:11 pm
Do not rent the DVD’ Junkyard Dog.
Vivica Fox is at the end of her career if she is doing garbage like this.
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Remember how fine she used to be?
July 22nd, 2012 at 12:13 pm
The A’s are going to Fk around have the Raiders playing on infield until the end of September, this must be stopped!
Beane, work your magic and dismantle the squad before it’s too late.
July 22nd, 2012 at 12:14 pm
Yah she is holding well too it’s just her acting career is over. She should think about doing some soft porn, maybe hit up Cinemax late night.
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Method To My Madness Says:
July 22nd, 2012 at 12:12 pm
Remember how fine she used to be?
July 22nd, 2012 at 12:15 pm
Didn’t Vivica have a BJ only sex tape?
July 22nd, 2012 at 12:16 pm
Link?
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Just Fire Baby Says:
July 22nd, 2012 at 12:15 pm
Didn’t Vivica have a BJ only sex tape?
July 22nd, 2012 at 12:17 pm
Watching Zito pitch behind in the count is like watching Jamarcus on 3rd and 12.
Pretty much hopeless.
July 22nd, 2012 at 12:17 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 22nd, 2012 at 12:15 pm
Didn’t Vivica have a BJ only sex tape?
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I’ve heard that before….hollywood
July 22nd, 2012 at 12:18 pm
Paterno’s statue was taken down this morning. Tomorrow the NCAA will announce its punishment for PSU. CNN quotes an insider as saying the penalties will be “sigificant” and “unprecedented” but will not include the death penalty, although the source states PSU might have PREFERRED a one-year death penalty to what they’re going to get.
Speculation that I’ve read says this means possibly vacating the last decade’s worth of wins, losing most or all of their football scholarships, and/or a multi-year TV and postseason ban. The NCAA obviously intends to humiliate Penn State and its football team.
July 22nd, 2012 at 12:18 pm
Link?
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I just remeber hearing that a few years ago.
Never seen it and afraid to google it, lol.
July 22nd, 2012 at 12:18 pm
MistaBrown Says:
July 22nd, 2012 at 12:13 pm
The A’s are going to Fk around have the Raiders playing on infield until the end of September, this must be stopped!
Beane, work your magic and dismantle the squad before it’s too late.
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You mean october….i think these guys gonna sneak in
July 22nd, 2012 at 12:18 pm
haha zito got blasted!
July 22nd, 2012 at 12:19 pm
It’s really a shame Paterno didn’t have to live in the shame that he so deserves because of this.
July 22nd, 2012 at 12:21 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
July 22nd, 2012 at 12:18 pm
Paterno’s statue was taken down this morning. Tomorrow the NCAA will announce its punishment for PSU. CNN quotes an insider as saying the penalties will be “sigificant” and “unprecedented” but will not include the death penalty, although the source states PSU might have PREFERRED a one-year death penalty to what they’re going to get.
Speculation that I’ve read says this means possibly vacating the last decade’s worth of wins, losing most or all of their football scholarships, and/or a multi-year TV and postseason ban. The NCAA obviously intends to humiliate Penn State and its football team.
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Cool ive never liked penn st…fk them for covering that phaggot pedophile…im sure our rookie DE from peen st wont be all too happy
July 22nd, 2012 at 12:23 pm
Per request, here’s the link: http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/22/us/penn-state-paterno-statue/index.html?sct=hp_t12_a1&eref=sihp
July 22nd, 2012 at 12:25 pm
I’m not real high on Crawford the DE.
I think the LB from PSU we drafted in the 7th round has a better chance to stick than him, due to special teams and our greater need for depth at LB over D-line.
July 22nd, 2012 at 12:26 pm
*October…sorry been so long since playoff baseball in Oakland I forgot when it starts/ends.
July 22nd, 2012 at 12:26 pm
We asked for a Viv link not this garbage u idiot.
lol
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RaiderDuck Says:
July 22nd, 2012 at 12:23 pm
Per request, here’s the link: http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/22/us/penn-state-paterno-statue/index.html?sct=hp_t12_a1&eref=sihp
July 22nd, 2012 at 12:33 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 22nd, 2012 at 12:25 pm
I’m not real high on Crawford the DE.
I think the LB from PSU we drafted in the 7th round has a better chance to stick than him, due to special teams and our greater need for depth at LB over D-line.
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Crawford is PS material…no pass rush moves
July 22nd, 2012 at 12:33 pm
Wow Scherholtz just went deep for Giants…thanks alot Blanton…3-3
July 22nd, 2012 at 12:34 pm
There isn’t a whole lot of people in the middle East that have big-boy bucks that aren’t corrupt or in the oil game.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
You are talking about things you don’t understand again like trends and geography.
They are not Italians! There is a lot business/ money In the ME. We have gold, oil, great developing/ emerging market, and room for growth.
Try talking about things you understand like sales and baseball.
July 22nd, 2012 at 12:52 pm
Room for growth???
We are talking about guys with tens to hundreds of millions of dollars to spend on a baseball stadium 5,000+ miles away.
I would say the same for Russia and South America, as the Middle EAst. The people with that type of money, didn’t get it through owning a bunch of pizza chains, lol.
They are often linked to oil, and to their local governments, which are among the worlds most corrupt.
July 22nd, 2012 at 12:57 pm
What do you know about the ME? You thought Palestinians are a minority in Israel. Like I said, try talking about things you understand like sales and baseball. You don’t have to own a pizzeria or a few of them to make wealth, but how are you going to know that?
Gold is a big business there, hotels and tourism, developing and managing property (that’s what I do), car parts, etc….
July 22nd, 2012 at 12:58 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
July 22nd, 2012 at 5:44 am
Interesting discussion about the Raids’ search for a short yardage/goal line battering ram and which back might fill that role.
Do we have a Zach Crockett on the roster ?
It’s a legitimate question and concern.
Bush’s failure at the KC goal line was painful.
Many of us can remember Fargas’s futility near the end zone.
Frustrating as hell not to be able to gain that final yard and get 6 or convert that 3rd and short. Often it’s the difference between winning and losing.
It’s an issue that needs addressing.
There are also other angles to consider, besides the question of ‘who is the short yardage specialist?’.
That would be:
Is the ZBS conducive to success in short yardage/power situations ?
Do the Raids have the horses in the interior line to move defenders in short yardage situations ?
Oakland’s struggles in converting short yardage and goal line opportunities should NOT be viewed only in the context of a failure on the RB’s part.
Might be time to think a little out of the box and concentrate more on short yardage line schemes that aren’t purely ZBS in nature and ‘elephant’ packages that can help whatever back is in there to get the job done.
We might need to ask ‘who is our Barrett Robbins?’ and not just ‘who is our Zach Crockett?’.
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Good points – all. Bush wasn’t the only problem last year. we were weak in the middle of the line (i.e. Satelle & Carlisle). We’ve fixed the Satele issue with Wiz 2.0. We fixed the R problem with Brisel. Now we’ve got to fix the OLG problem – Carlisle. We need a big body in there as Carlisle is part of the problem. Maybe Bergstrom, Barksdale, Hurd or some other O-linemen can step up to solidify this line. Then all that is left is strengthening our ORT slot. Fix that with a FA pickup. Using Barnes as the “elephant” TE has worked well in the past. Then put another O-line man at FB and let Houston pack that rock. That’s gotta be good for 1-2 yards every time.
July 22nd, 2012 at 12:59 pm
A lot of Euro soccer teams are owned by Middle Eastern investors, whom are almost ALL oil guys.
Your not going to find too many Middle Eastern billionaires (who we are talking about here) who didn’t make their fortune in oil.
July 22nd, 2012 at 1:01 pm
Yes! That’s why they call them emerging markets., because they have room for growth.
LOL
July 22nd, 2012 at 1:03 pm
O,
I am talking about billionaires, not the local economy. Why don’t you show me a Middle Eastern investor who owns a sports team, that isn’t linked to oil? Good luck with that.
And I never said that about Israel and Palenstines. I honestly couldn’t tell you what being Palenstian means.
July 22nd, 2012 at 1:05 pm
Rafic Hariri made his money in RE.
Talal Abu ghazeleh made his money in accounting.
Try again!
July 22nd, 2012 at 1:06 pm
Who the F is talking about emerging markets but you?
I certainly am not. I am talking about Middle Eastern billionaire investment firms, and where they made MOST of their money.
That’s it. Quit getting so butt hurt anytime someone says something about the Middle EAst and trying to jump in and change the subject around.
July 22nd, 2012 at 1:08 pm
I’m not an expert on Arab billionaires who own sports teams and are not linked to oil, but I do know a little bit about ME economy.
July 22nd, 2012 at 1:10 pm
Neither one of those guys own a sports team. And a quick google serach of these two shows they are involved with politics, WHICH WAS MY EXACT POINT.
July 22nd, 2012 at 1:11 pm
Your business knowledge is amazing. You said most Arabs made their wealth from oil or corruption, and I’m saying you don’t know wtf you are talking about AGAIN. A lot people created wealth in RE, Gold, and other areas.
“There isn’t a whole lot of people in the middle East that have big-boy bucks that aren’t corrupt or in the oil game”
July 22nd, 2012 at 1:13 pm
They were involved in politics after they made their wealth. That never happens here.
Has nothing to do with the ME (trends had nothing to do with the ME), but I can’t tolerate ignorance.
July 22nd, 2012 at 1:14 pm
Its ok, I don’t blame you, I blame Chico. lol
July 22nd, 2012 at 1:16 pm
but I do know a little bit about ME economy.
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I am sure you know way more than me about it.
I just know when you talk about Russian billionaires or Middle Eastern billionaires, it doesn’t take long to fnid a connection to oil, some Roayl family, or politics.
And that makes some peole uneasy here, and that was my initial point.
Maybe the reason both the Kings and Chargers ownnership groups passed on this Rick Tripp guy financing 100% of a new stadium for them, was because a lot of that money comes from a region of the world some people aren’t comy getting in bed with.
That’s it man, that’s my point. Not trying to get in some heated debate about the growth potential fo the place , lol.
July 22nd, 2012 at 1:17 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 22nd, 2012 at 12:19 pm
It’s really a shame Paterno didn’t have to live in the shame that he so deserves because of this.
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His family will have to live it for him.
July 22nd, 2012 at 1:18 pm
That’s it. Quit getting so butt hurt anytime someone says something about the Middle EAst and trying to jump in and change the subject around.
Trends, Italy and Sudan (unless you consider Sudan part of the ME lol) etc….. Like I said, it had nothing to do with the ME.
July 22nd, 2012 at 1:20 pm
MistaBrown Says:
July 22nd, 2012 at 12:13 pm
The A’s are going to Fk around have the Raiders playing on infield until the end of September, this must be stopped!
Beane, work your magic and dismantle the squad before it’s too late.
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Exactly. A’s aren’t going anywhere if they get in the playoffs, so just bow out now so we don’t have to put up with more than 2 games on that sh1tty dirt.
July 22nd, 2012 at 1:21 pm
Dude, I was right on that Sudan thing.
The Southern portion of Sicily is as close to Sudan in miles than it is to Northern Italy (like Florence).
This is a fact, and that was my point.
Again, you try to twist it all around (good salesmanship) to come up with some different debate.
July 22nd, 2012 at 1:22 pm
Only a few people have access to the oil industry (most people habe to be part of the royal family), so the majority of people made their wealth from other investments/ business like gold, hotels, RE, banking, etc…
You are right about one thing, you can make a lot of money in the ME, but the easy ways are oil and gov (corruption).
July 22nd, 2012 at 1:23 pm
You were off by 150 miles, so I was right.
LOL
July 22nd, 2012 at 1:24 pm
Same with the trends thing.
You act like there is no such thing as a short-term trend in investments, or that short-term trading strategies exist I guess, then tried to flip the whole thing around to another point.
Stay on topci please!!!
July 22nd, 2012 at 1:27 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
July 22nd, 2012 at 1:20 pm
MistaBrown Says:
July 22nd, 2012 at 12:13 pm
The A’s are going to Fk around have the Raiders playing on infield until the end of September, this must be stopped!
Beane, work your magic and dismantle the squad before it’s too late.
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Exactly. A’s aren’t going anywhere if they get in the playoffs, so just bow out now so we don’t have to put up with more than 2 games on that sh1tty dirt.
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Spare us the hater remarks mayne….why wont they go anywhere in playoffs if they get in? Explain that since october baseball is about pitching and defense and we know the A’s have that
The dirt field makes no difference to me at all. Still have to win…no excuses…how’s that for reality?
July 22nd, 2012 at 1:31 pm
I never said there is no ST trends. I said it not a trend if it only happened once before. It can be the beginning of a trend, but something that happened one time does not qualify as a trend.
You would know that if you were in class instead of driving to Oakland to have fun. lol
July 22nd, 2012 at 1:35 pm
You would realize that I don’t change the topic, if you knew what you were talking about. It real easy for you to get confused when you talk about things you don’t understand.
July 22nd, 2012 at 1:38 pm
I get confused when you guys talk baseball, and that because I don’t understand the game.
July 22nd, 2012 at 1:39 pm
And that’s why I don’t talk baseball.
July 22nd, 2012 at 1:39 pm
Colon in trouble…2 men on with no outs
July 22nd, 2012 at 1:40 pm
Raider O Says:
July 22nd, 2012 at 1:39 pm
And that’s why I don’t talk baseball.
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We all know why…you are really a Padres fan lol
July 22nd, 2012 at 1:41 pm
Damn now loaded for the Yankees…as I said I had no confidence in Colon
July 22nd, 2012 at 1:42 pm
Raider O….
Where are you from exactly?
Just curious.
July 22nd, 2012 at 1:43 pm
God damn Colon you throwing fastballs to the Yankees all game? Eventually a grand slam is gonna happen
July 22nd, 2012 at 1:45 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
July 22nd, 2012 at 1:39 pm
Colon in trouble…2 men on with no outs
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how about you not post baseball stuff on the NATION blog…lol
July 22nd, 2012 at 1:46 pm
B,
Lol
I have considered it. I love SD (home), so I have to pick a SD team, and since I don’t care about baseball, padres are my team.
Go Padres!!!!
Go Tony Gwynn!!!
July 22nd, 2012 at 1:46 pm
Arod double to gap….3-0….fkin Colon sucks….throws fastballs all day…this aint the fkin NATIONAL LEAGUE
July 22nd, 2012 at 1:48 pm
Thec Says:
July 22nd, 2012 at 1:45 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
July 22nd, 2012 at 1:39 pm
Colon in trouble…2 men on with no outs
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how about you not post baseball stuff on the NATION blog…lol
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A’s and Raiders= forever connected…Oakland coliseum…theyre winning and prospering only helps the Raiders in efforts for a new venue my brotha
July 22nd, 2012 at 1:49 pm
TFL,
My parents are palestinians/ Americans. I was born in Saudi, lived in Jordan, and then moved here when I was a teenager.
July 22nd, 2012 at 1:49 pm
Raider O Says:
July 22nd, 2012 at 1:46 pm
B,
Lol
I have considered it. I love SD (home), so I have to pick a SD team, and since I don’t care about baseball, padres are my team.
Go Padres!!!!
Go Tony Gwynn!!!
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Suicide is better than being a PADRES fan
July 22nd, 2012 at 1:50 pm
Thank God this inning is over…5 hits? Fat Joe needs to be sent out of Oakland
July 22nd, 2012 at 1:51 pm
Colon is a strike throwing fastball/changeup guy.
What do you want him to do, make up some slider on the mound?
His schtick is pounding the corners with fastballs. Works better against some teams than others.
July 22nd, 2012 at 1:51 pm
What are you talking about? Tony Gwynn and Petco park is as good as it gets (I guess lol).
July 22nd, 2012 at 1:52 pm
A’s need another bat if they want to make some noise in the postseason, and relying on a young pen is scary too.
Carter could emerge as that other bat though.
July 22nd, 2012 at 1:53 pm
All you folks who live in the 619…CELEBRATE…because this is the last training camp for Chargers as a SD team lol….they will be the LA Chargers…so you can drive up either the 5 all the way to downtown or take the 5 to the 405 to the 105 and then the 110 and see the Raiders smash the chargers…should make the LA folks happy they dont have to drive far to watch the Raiders blast rivers
July 22nd, 2012 at 1:56 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 22nd, 2012 at 1:51 pm
Colon is a strike throwing fastball/changeup guy.
What do you want him to do, make up some slider on the mound?
His schtick is pounding the corners with fastballs. Works better against some teams than others.
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I want him to get the fk outta Oakland is what
In playoffs the Tigers,White Sox,Rangers and Yankees will crush a guy who throws predominantly fastballs….he will lose everytime if we get in
July 22nd, 2012 at 1:57 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 22nd, 2012 at 1:52 pm
A’s need another bat if they want to make some noise in the postseason, and relying on a young pen is scary too.
Carter could emerge as that other bat though.
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Carter is cool…..but I think we make a move for Stephen Drew of the d-backs…we need a better hitting SS…we have schit at the bottom of the lineup
July 22nd, 2012 at 1:58 pm
LOL B
They have been talking about it for more than a decade. It’s time to move. GTFO of SD. They suck and their fans are flakes (wagon hoppers)
July 22nd, 2012 at 1:59 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
July 22nd, 2012 at 1:53 pm
All you folks who live in the 619…CELEBRATE…because this is the last training camp for Chargers as a SD team lol….they will be the LA Chargers…so you can drive up either the 5 all the way to downtown or take the 5 to the 405 to the 105 and then the 110 and see the Raiders smash the chargers…should make the LA folks happy they dont have to drive far to watch the Raiders blast rivers
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Fuk the disc….
have know this for a while, where are you getting your intel?
I am sooooo happy they will be leaving…
Them moving to LA makes logical sense, it would not upset the balance of the NFL in terms of location.
July 22nd, 2012 at 1:59 pm
Raider O Says:
July 22nd, 2012 at 1:51 pm
What are you talking about? Tony Gwynn and Petco park is as good as it gets (I guess lol).
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Only thing good about SD is the weather and women…definitely not the weed
July 22nd, 2012 at 2:00 pm
Raider O Says:
July 22nd, 2012 at 1:58 pm
LOL B
They have been talking about it for more than a decade. It’s time to move. GTFO of SD. They suck and their fans are flakes (wagon hoppers)
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Exactly they can root harder for the Aztecs
July 22nd, 2012 at 2:01 pm
Stephen Drew, good call would definitely work for a half season or so.
He always gets hurt, that’s his issue. You don’t mind being married to him for 3 months, but not 3 years.
July 22nd, 2012 at 2:02 pm
O Hell no!! You are going to insult our weed? Compare to the rest of the country, we have great weed, but not compared to you.
You People have it all, The Raiders, Great weed, and UCB (HAAS). Lucky bastards!
July 22nd, 2012 at 2:03 pm
one thing I wonder about LA is, where will the fan base go?
The NATION is huge in LA. New generation will prob be disc fans.
July 22nd, 2012 at 2:04 pm
I’m an Aztec for life!!
Go Aztecs!!!!!!!
July 22nd, 2012 at 2:04 pm
My parents are palestinians/ Americans. I was born in Saudi, lived in Jordan, and then moved here when I was a teenager.
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Right on “O” Dang, you’ve been around!
My Uncles business partner is Palestinian. They own a small Pharmacy in NorCal. Fkrs won’t send me any Vicodin though! lol
July 22nd, 2012 at 2:04 pm
Thec Says:
July 22nd, 2012 at 1:59 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
July 22nd, 2012 at 1:53 pm
All you folks who live in the 619…CELEBRATE…because this is the last training camp for Chargers as a SD team lol….they will be the LA Chargers…so you can drive up either the 5 all the way to downtown or take the 5 to the 405 to the 105 and then the 110 and see the Raiders smash the chargers…should make the LA folks happy they dont have to drive far to watch the Raiders blast rivers
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Fuk the disc….
have know this for a while, where are you getting your intel?
I am sooooo happy they will be leaving…
Them moving to LA makes logical sense, it would not upset the balance of the NFL in terms of location.
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Its obvious….the two guys running for Mayor aint down for a new stadium
And plus talking with Ryan Matthews he sure didnt inspire confidence about playing in SD for the long haul
SD city got more money issues than Oakland…plus reading schit thats out there suggesting they’re to LA…..maybe Farmers but Ed Roski’s stadium is actually better
July 22nd, 2012 at 2:05 pm
You can go to a 3man rotation in the postseason and not have to start Colon if you want, without having to ship him out of town, lol.
He can be and has been effective for you guys this year at times.
July 22nd, 2012 at 2:05 pm
Only thing good about SD is the weather and women
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Truth
I was hanging out downtown last night…
Oh boy, so many women…It was outstanding…
July 22nd, 2012 at 2:06 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 22nd, 2012 at 2:01 pm
Stephen Drew, good call would definitely work for a half season or so.
He always gets hurt, that’s his issue. You don’t mind being married to him for 3 months, but not 3 years.
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That’s all I need
July 22nd, 2012 at 2:07 pm
Raider O Says:
July 22nd, 2012 at 2:02 pm
O Hell no!! You are going to insult our weed? Compare to the rest of the country, we have great weed, but not compared to you.
You People have it all, The Raiders, Great weed, and UCB (HAAS). Lucky bastards!
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Yeah but i’ll take the weather and women of SD anyday lmao
July 22nd, 2012 at 2:08 pm
Man Penny had nothing for us today.
4-2 East Coast road trip will work though.
July 22nd, 2012 at 2:08 pm
Thec Says:
July 22nd, 2012 at 2:05 pm
Only thing good about SD is the weather and women
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Truth
I was hanging out downtown last night…
Oh boy, so many women…It was outstanding…
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OUTSTANDINNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGG…..them girls they knock you out! Exciting…..makes me wanna shout!
July 22nd, 2012 at 2:09 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 22nd, 2012 at 2:05 pm
You can go to a 3man rotation in the postseason and not have to start Colon if you want, without having to ship him out of town, lol.
He can be and has been effective for you guys this year at times.
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Bullpen or get the Barry Zito treatment from 2010
July 22nd, 2012 at 2:12 pm
RFL,
LOL
Try saying Habibi next time. That usually works.
July 22nd, 2012 at 2:14 pm
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/06/30/if-l-a-move-will-happen-in-2013-chargers-are-the-most-likely-to-go/
This is real
July 22nd, 2012 at 2:23 pm
B,
I’m married and I’m hairy as hell (I sweat like a lab monkey in the summer). I like to move north to oak (study at HAAS), but we will see. It’s very expensive.
July 22nd, 2012 at 2:25 pm
Later Gents/ nation. The kid wants to play. Really struggling with the heat especially since I’m fasting.
July 22nd, 2012 at 2:25 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
July 22nd, 2012 at 2:14 pm
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/06/30/if-l-a-move-will-happen-in-2013-chargers-are-the-most-likely-to-go/
This is real
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I read that one almost a month back. To me it makes logical sense. AFC west nor the NFL willl have a realigment issue if another team goes to LA.
July 22nd, 2012 at 2:27 pm
Couple of solo jacks….now down 4-2…let’s go Oakland!
July 22nd, 2012 at 2:28 pm
alright O….dont let Kell bait ya anymore mayne
July 22nd, 2012 at 2:32 pm
Thec Says:
July 22nd, 2012 at 2:25 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
July 22nd, 2012 at 2:14 pm
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/06/30/if-l-a-move-will-happen-in-2013-chargers-are-the-most-likely-to-go/
This is real
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I read that one almost a month back. To me it makes logical sense. AFC west nor the NFL willl have a realigment issue if another team goes to LA.
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No realignment issue if Chargers and Rams move back to LA
I’m sure Farmer’s Field will be built
Now the 2nd stadium if the rams and bolts dont wanna share downtown is interesting…
I think Roski’s venue is excellent with tailgating and all….but dont leave out or underestimate Magic Johnson getting something right next to Dodger
Stadium
July 22nd, 2012 at 2:34 pm
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/02/chargers-say-memo-doesnt-move-team-closer-to-l-a/
Two teams will be in LA…and Fabiani knows he is going to LA
July 22nd, 2012 at 3:41 pm
It’s about to go down in the bottom of the 9th.
July 22nd, 2012 at 3:48 pm
there is something going on with this A’s team… another HR in the bottom of the 9th by Seth Smith to TIE IT… inning not over… wow.
July 22nd, 2012 at 3:58 pm
Should have pinch-hit for Weeks when you had the closer on the ropes.
He can’t hit worth a $h!t
July 22nd, 2012 at 4:02 pm
So there is 82 AL batters who qualify for the batting average lead.
Pennington is 80th, Weeks 78th.
At least Smoak (dead last) has 13 HR’s, Pena (81st) 14 HR’s, and Dunn (79th) has 28.
Being one of the worst 5 hitters in your league doesn’t work when you struggle to hit it out of the infield.
July 22nd, 2012 at 4:04 pm
5 Zeigenbocks 2 Millers and counting:) boooyahhh!
July 22nd, 2012 at 4:07 pm
LOL at the Legarette Blount article on PFT.
Dude is going to waste away a great opportunity acting like that.
How do you not show up on time, REPEATEDLY, and have it cost you 15K?
July 22nd, 2012 at 4:10 pm
Sit down JETER!
July 22nd, 2012 at 4:23 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 22nd, 2012 at 12:10 pm
Tiger’s a total front-runner too.
Never won a major when he wasn’t leading going into Sunday, and like today he usually folds and falls apart the middle of Sunday once he realizes he can’t win.
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You love to hate black people, don’t you?
July 22nd, 2012 at 4:26 pm
JFB
14 Majors won, and you’re going to sit on your fat assz and criticize?
July 22nd, 2012 at 4:29 pm
Front runner? I never heard you say a gawdamned thing about the Giants until they won.
July 22nd, 2012 at 4:35 pm
Front runner? I never heard you say a gawdamned thing about the Giants until they won.
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Well that doesn’t suprise me, being that you are in your own little world out there.
July 22nd, 2012 at 4:36 pm
Can’t say anything about an Atheletes game, but you can sit on your fat assz and judge their moral character to make yourself feel superior.
July 22nd, 2012 at 4:36 pm
You love to hate black people, don’t you?
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Yes, like Reggie McKenzie and Rolando McCLain.
(Pssstt…….it’s actually Tiger’s half-thai that I hate)
July 22nd, 2012 at 4:41 pm
Moral character?
Tiger has never won a major he wasn’t leading going into Sunday.
FACT
Nothing to with character or morality, AND EVERYTHING TO DO WITH HIS GAME.
July 22nd, 2012 at 4:43 pm
In every sport there are players/teams that come from behind better than others, or who play with a lead better than others.
Give Tiger a lead on Sunday ,and watch him kill everybody.
But if he is not leading going into Sunday, HE HAS NEVER WON A MAJOR.
= front-runner
July 22nd, 2012 at 4:51 pm
LOL at just becoming a Giants fan.
So all this Barry Bonds stuff all over my office I am looking at (another black guy I love to hate apparently) I bought after 2010?
July 22nd, 2012 at 4:53 pm
You’re a damned liar, you’re saying he doesn’t have the character, or. Mental strength to come from behind, you disingenuous prick.
July 22nd, 2012 at 4:55 pm
Sweeeep….. Oakland…
July 22nd, 2012 at 4:59 pm
I am saying he has never done it (fact) and IT IS A FLAW IN HIS GOLF GAME.
Draw up whatever imaginary scenarios in your head you want to.
July 22nd, 2012 at 5:02 pm
Azzhole comes in here bragging about cheating on his wife with an El Paso waitress for blog brownie points, then sits on his fat azz passing moral judgements on others.
July 22nd, 2012 at 5:02 pm
SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP…you damn right Fingers…how bout dem Swingin A’s?
July 22nd, 2012 at 5:05 pm
then sits on his fat azz passing moral judgements on others.
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Ummmmmm…….isn’t that EXACTLY what you are doing to me?
July 22nd, 2012 at 5:06 pm
This is the worst thing for Lew Wolff….the Giants see this young team making noise…no way are they gonna let A’s into SJ….it will be worse come fall as the playoff races intensify
Check this…the Rangers and Angels play at 5pm….if Angels lose guess who is top WC…at least tied for it?
And if Rangers lose we are 5.5 back of them
Oh yeah with Raiders upcoming preseason…Oakland is a hot ticket for sports….then the W’s come in November! YES YES!
July 22nd, 2012 at 5:07 pm
Never won a major when he wasn’t leading going into Sunday, and like today he usually folds and falls apart the middle of Sunday once he realizes he can’t win.
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How is the above statement about anything other than golf?
When he isn’t leading, he presses, makes mistakes, and falls off the map, just like today.
July 22nd, 2012 at 5:09 pm
….if Angels lose guess who is top WC…at least tied for it?
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You realy struggle with this loss column thing don’t you, lol?
If the Angles lose, they have one more loss than the A’s, so A’s would be all alone at the top.
July 22nd, 2012 at 5:10 pm
Or are you talking about the Orioles?
My bad if so………
July 22nd, 2012 at 5:12 pm
Will be a good series in Toronto, with two completely different styles of teams.
Toronto is playing well, and is one of the better home teams in the AL.
That is a long-azz flight from Oakland.
July 22nd, 2012 at 5:14 pm
Go A’s. The last time they swept the Yankees in Oakland was 1972
July 22nd, 2012 at 5:15 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 22nd, 2012 at 5:02 pm
Azzhole comes in here bragging about cheating on his wife with an El Paso waitress for blog brownie points
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Serious? Not cool…
July 22nd, 2012 at 5:24 pm
Damn cat just brought another garter snake in
July 22nd, 2012 at 5:27 pm
Yeah Vegas lol the Orioles who we play this week
And our clubhouse so cool…blastin rap music and dancing doin the Bernie! Most fun team in MLB
July 22nd, 2012 at 5:28 pm
July 22nd, 2012 at 5:29 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 22nd, 2012 at 5:14 pm
Go A’s. The last time they swept the Yankees in Oakland was 1972
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Kell 2001 in August we did….Giambi went deep on Mike Stanton to complete sweep…..I remember that well….I was going nuts
July 22nd, 2012 at 5:30 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 22nd, 2012 at 5:12 pm
Will be a good series in Toronto, with two completely different styles of teams.
Toronto is playing well, and is one of the better home teams in the AL.
That is a long-azz flight from Oakland.
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We just wanna win series my friend….we know it will be tough after a 4pm pst first pitch but we grinding this is why you go thru the hell to get to october….you should know this well Mr Giant fan
July 22nd, 2012 at 5:30 pm
Yeah Vegas lol the Orioles who we play this week
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Should be fun, hopefully they do better than last time when they were in Baltimore, and blew saves kicking the ball around.
Although two of those inovleved than (Fuentes and Barton) aren’t around anymore.
July 22nd, 2012 at 5:31 pm
Alright, I thought I heard 72′
July 22nd, 2012 at 5:31 pm
And Kell if im not mistaken our 2006 season we broomed them punks…im not 100 pct alot of smoke and drank since then
July 22nd, 2012 at 5:31 pm
….Giambi went deep on Mike Stanton to complete sweep…..
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That ball landed about 5 rows in front of me.
Giambi pinch-hit I believe.
July 22nd, 2012 at 5:32 pm
July 22nd, 2012 at 5:32 pm
i think 06 im wrong on…at least i believe we had a sweep that year of them…was it in yankee stadium? naw not even im checkin it out
July 22nd, 2012 at 5:33 pm
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/11/sports/baseball/12yankees-wire.html?ex=1307678400&en=e9a4c10e40e0bbbb&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss
yeah we got em in yankee stadium
but on the notes below 2001 at home
July 22nd, 2012 at 5:33 pm
Kell i dont think youre wrong…i bet they said since 72 of a four game sweep…we did 3 game sweep in 2001
July 22nd, 2012 at 5:35 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 22nd, 2012 at 5:31 pm
….Giambi went deep on Mike Stanton to complete sweep…..
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That ball landed about 5 rows in front of me.
Giambi pinch-hit I believe.
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Ha….Giants boy wanna be around the Bay Area trend setters I see
July 22nd, 2012 at 5:35 pm
Toronto put up 2 touchdowns today, this will be the total offense -vs- defense series.
July 22nd, 2012 at 5:36 pm
http://www.nj.com/yankees/index.ssf/2012/07/yankees_swept_by_oakland_for_f.html
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Kell you werent wrong old man
July 22nd, 2012 at 5:37 pm
Ha….Giants boy wanna be around the Bay Area trend setters I see
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Nah, one of my bosses at my college job wanted to show off to his new step-son and take him to a game, but he didn’t know anything about baseball.
So I went (turned 21 like a month before) and got wasted and talked baseball to some 9 year old I just met that day.
JFB = team-player
July 22nd, 2012 at 5:39 pm
Toronto fielding sucks and so does their pitching
July 22nd, 2012 at 5:40 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 22nd, 2012 at 5:37 pm
Ha….Giants boy wanna be around the Bay Area trend setters I see
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Nah, one of my bosses at my college job wanted to show off to his new step-son and take him to a game, but he didn’t know anything about baseball.
So I went (turned 21 like a month before) and got wasted and talked baseball to some 9 year old I just met that day.
JFB = team-player
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Really? Well get some c4 and blow up G@y T&T park and prove it
July 22nd, 2012 at 5:41 pm
Vegas….toronto can really score ill admit and can hit the damn ball…we lucky Bautista will miss this series
July 22nd, 2012 at 5:44 pm
I think Toronto lost 3 or 4 starting pitchers for the year already, so yeah they are pitching depleted.
Can bash they hell out of the ball though, 3rd in runs scored in baseball.
No Joey Bats right now however.
July 22nd, 2012 at 5:44 pm
woooo good weekend…i’ll chekc back in with yall when Napa is in full swing
July 22nd, 2012 at 5:49 pm
The A’s finally have some Rught handed power. Glad to have Curt Young back, too.
July 22nd, 2012 at 6:03 pm
1 Week!!!!
July 22nd, 2012 at 6:33 pm
YO DUDES
hope all ya all had a goot time weekend. me and my girlfiend sure did. we had guests over and drank wine. then we went and jumped in the river and bathed. Me and my girlfiend aint got nuthin to hide.
WIZZLE FEEL LIKE MIZZEL, PICKLE
July 22nd, 2012 at 6:33 pm
You guys watching the Al Davis story?
July 22nd, 2012 at 8:44 pm
1792………………………. Says:
July 22nd, 2012 at 5:32 pm
Cornfucious say man with stanky wife need to come up for air.
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I apoligize to the blog for replying to this, but……
That is just fkn funny.
July 22nd, 2012 at 8:45 pm
Any yall yall kno why the Chi Cubs always hangin on the bottom? Damn I’d like to see the Cubs in the postseason mayne!
July 22nd, 2012 at 10:26 pm
Vegas,
I enjoy our debates a lot bro. I had fun today. I was thinking about a few things from our debate:
1- I mentioned emerging markets as an example for great investments and opportunities to create wealth (other than the oil industry), but I wasn’t trying to change the topic.
2- I don’t know anything about Arab billionaires who invest in soccer clubs (not the topic. We are talking about how most Arabs create wealth), but I think it’s for fun and diversification.
3- Hariri and Abu Ghazeleh were examples of people who created wealth from other sectors, and then they became politicians/ involved in politics ( I wonder why lol), but I’m not sure if they are involved in soccer (I don’t think so).
4- allow me to correct you: most Arabs create their wealth from RE, banks/ investments, Gold, trade, but it will never be at the same level as SOME (minority) royal familis or people who own oil. That’s a different kind of wealth.
July 22nd, 2012 at 10:41 pm
Do you even still run a blog? Or is this a dead site?
July 22nd, 2012 at 10:45 pm
Look at Dubai, Abu Dhabi, Saudi (the last 2 decades), Jordan & Lebanon (no oil), its all about investments/ banks, trades, gold, and tourism (hotels, restaurant, service sector, etc..) Black gold will not last forever, and most Arabs realize that now (last 2 decades)
July 22nd, 2012 at 10:58 pm
Look at Al Waleed bin Talal, one of the wealthiest people in the world, he made his money from Kingdom Holding Co (investment co).
July 22nd, 2012 at 11:18 pm
B, Thec, and others,
I wasn’t trying to offend/ insult/ or stereotype anyone, but I was trying to make a point. Like Thec said, you people don’t know me and you judge by my words, and that wasn’t the best choice of words. I should have used a different approach to make my point.
Plz forgive me if I offended you.
July 23rd, 2012 at 12:09 am
My rankings of the top 5 QB’s in the league right now are:
Tom Brady
Drew Brees
Eli Manning
Aaron Rodgers
Peyton Manning
The bottom 5 (worst of the worst) are:
Michael Vick
Tarvaris Jackson
Cam Newton
David Garrard
Jason Campbell
July 23rd, 2012 at 12:15 am
Geez, sully. You’re really getting bored,aren’t you?
July 23rd, 2012 at 12:22 am
Top 5 running backs:
Danny Woodhead
Peyton Hillis
Adrian Peterson
Darren McFadden
Chris Johnson
Top Head Coaches:
Belichek
McCarthy
Coughlin
Worst of the worst:
Tomlin
Crennell
Raheem Morris
Top linebackers
Urlacher
Clay Mathews
Brian Cushing
Worst of the worst
Kirk Morrison
Aaron Maybin
Quincy Black
July 23rd, 2012 at 12:24 am
1817.Intrepid Says:
July 23rd, 2012 at 12:15 am
Geez, sully. You’re really getting bored,aren’t you?
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How’d you know it was me?
July 23rd, 2012 at 5:07 am
allow me to correct you: most Arabs create their wealth from RE, banks/ investments, Gold, trade, but it will never be at the same level as SOME (minority) royal familis or people who own oil. That’s a different kind of wealth.
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Good morning O!!
That was my orignal point, but I probably shouldn’t have said “most people” create their wealth that way. I hate using generalities and paintnig with a broad brush. My fault.
As far as you staying on topic, well it is what arguing/debating/selling is all about right? I want to keep you in my sandbox so to speak to get you closer to my point, as you do the same.
All in the game.
July 23rd, 2012 at 6:00 am
Good Morning Nation!
Seen Dark Knight Rises yesterday…good movie but too dam long! I think they could have shaved about 20 minutes…like 2:35 before the end credits??? LOL
And…did the A’s really sweep the Yankees? YES!!!
July 23rd, 2012 at 6:07 am
Quote for Today…
“I’ve learned that people will forget what you said, people will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel.”
― KoolKell
July 23rd, 2012 at 6:10 am
Worst of the worst
Kirk Morrison
Aaron Maybin
Quincy Black
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@ GJ
shut your piehole, clown!
Capt Kirk has been sorely missed every time we see McSluggish on the field
July 23rd, 2012 at 6:11 am
happy Monday everyone!!
July 23rd, 2012 at 6:19 am
I think the last Batman movie I saw was the one with the Penquin, lol.
I never saw the last Dark Knight either (not a big movie guy; especially sci-fi).
July 23rd, 2012 at 6:24 am
This was the first Batman movie I seen in the theaters since Batman and Robin, which I almost walked out of about 15 years ago…lol! This one was good but I still like Batman Begins the best!
July 23rd, 2012 at 6:25 am
I think the last Batman movie I saw was the one with the Penquin
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@JFB
didnt Danny Devito play that character?
yikes!!
July 23rd, 2012 at 6:31 am
Yup, it was Devito.
July 23rd, 2012 at 6:35 am
Adam West is the Batman.
BAM! POW! SPLAT!
July 23rd, 2012 at 6:45 am
Palmer says Raiders are playoff ready
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/23/palmer-says-raiders-are-playoff-ready/
July 23rd, 2012 at 6:47 am
Palmer says Raiders are playoff ready
Posted by Mike Florio on July 23, 2012, 9:11 AM EDT
The Broncos have Peyton Manning and the Chargers have added a bunch of new players and the Chiefs seem to be on the upswing. But Raiders quarterback Carson Palmer remains optimistic.
“I think we’re a playoff team,” Palmer told Alex Flanagan of NBC Sports on Sunday, at the American Century Championship. “We’ve got a lot of work to do, but we’ve been at it in OTAs and minicamps and now training camp’s around the corner. Guys have been studying hard and working on the new system. And it’s ‘go’ time. There is no cushion or a year to get kind of momentum going. We’re ready to come in to camp and go out and win as many games as we can.”
With offensive coordinator Greg Knapp bringing the Texans-style zone-based running and West Coast passing offense to Oakland, Palmer thinks the Raiders will have the firepower to score points.
“Exciting,” Palmer said. “With Darren McFadden in the backfield, an offensive line that is hungry. They’re gonna open up great holes for him. And then a lot of speed on the outside. Really fast receivers with a lot of play-action stuff. I’m excited. Having a chance to play for Coach Knapp, I’m excited.”
(Wait, was that Carson Palmer or Tim Tebow talking?)
Palmer added that the offense will be more of a run-based attack, with the team leaning on McFadden. Which makes sense, as long as McFadden can stay healthy.
Palmer needs to stay healthy, too. Then again, Knapp’s last team made it to the playoffs and won a game (nearly two games) with a third-string quarterback.
Then again, the Texans had a lot more at the other positions than the Raiders currently have.
July 23rd, 2012 at 6:51 am
Palmer added that the offense will be more of a run-based attack, with the team leaning on McFadden. Which makes sense, as long as McFadden can stay healthy.
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I told you guys this about Knapp’s offense and you all just tried to act like I didn’t know what I was talking about!!
Palmer is not playing careless Air Coryell style football in 2012. Al Davis & Hue Jackson are gone. Saunders got demoted. Dennis Allen is all about discipline. gonna put the Mad Bomber in a position to succeed
July 23rd, 2012 at 6:56 am
Good morning Nation!
What did I tell you about the Joe Paterno statue? Not surprised that it came down. No way is that program not getting the death penalty. They will cry and moan about it. But it’s inevitable.
July 23rd, 2012 at 6:57 am
I feel like that old Army commercial. “we do more before 5AM than most people do all day”. Whew..tired. Need a break…
July 23rd, 2012 at 6:57 am
Good Morning NATION !!
and my GreenParty brothers !!
July 23rd, 2012 at 6:58 am
Lots of YAC opportunities for our WR’s.
Like the play-action aspect, and that’s where you will see Palmer rolling a little, manipulating the pocket as they call it.
No sprint-outs, and naked boots and stuff like that, that some people think we are going to ask Palmer to do.
July 23rd, 2012 at 6:58 am
Rockstar, I agree with Knapp. Best to pound the heck out of DMAC and then pound him some more. Till the wheels fall off.
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:00 am
I want to see Palmer put some air under the ball. The deep ball downfield is a strength we should threaten teams with. Moore and Criner will make them pay if we open it up. YAC opportunities sound fine. But I’m happy with limited YAC if the ball is deep enough.
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:03 am
Bo you out there?
I think Michigan should have been sanctioned like Penn State for their extra practice sessions.
And RaiderO, I think The Ohio State University also should have been hammered that bad for Pryor-gate!
All Big-10 schools are cheats and liars!
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:04 am
They took the statue out at like 4am on a Sunday morning, when all the college kids were starting to sleep off their drunken stupor.
Smart move, like firing people on Friday’s.
I don’t think they will get the “death penalty” but they will be so displaced by the sanctions, getting coaches and athletes to attend will be so difficult, they will fade into oblivion, and be more like Temple football or something.
There, but not relevant.
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:05 am
All Big-10 schools are cheats and liars!
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true, but why limit it to only Big-10 schools?
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:08 am
I don’t see how they don’t get the death penalty. Here’s why: At some point you have to set a precedent for what constitutes the death penalty. If you at some point in the future give another program the death penalty, but don’t give it to Penn St., then you are indirectly saying that sexual child abuse is someway a rung or two lower than the most egregious crime. Are the NCAA really ready to do that?
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:08 am
$60 million dollar fine
No bowl games for 4 years
Scholarships reduced to 15 for 4 years
All wins from 1998-2011 vacated
ouch
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:10 am
Dakota Says:
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:08 am
$60 million dollar fine
No bowl games for 4 years
Scholarships reduced to 15 for 4 years
All wins from 1998-2011 vacated
ouch
Yeah and if that is not the death penalty, I couldn’t tell you what is
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:10 am
Are the NCAA really ready to do that?
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They are not ready to just eliminate a football program.
Make it so it is nearly impossible to function as a top-tier program again will do for me.
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:10 am
Bobby Bowden is smiling right about now.
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:10 am
All wins from 1998-2011 vacated
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Wonder if this puts Bobby Bowden over the top now?
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:11 am
Now Penn State should go undefeated and completely screwup the BCS rankings and the Big 10 champinship gmae as well, lol
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:13 am
I’d like to see Penn St football go the way of SMU back in the 80’s.
Death penalty worked there, and I don’t think SMU’s sins were lower on the rung of sins than Penn State.
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:14 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:11 am
Now Penn State should go undefeated and completely screwup the BCS rankings and the Big 10 champinship gmae as well, lol
LOL, I agree…that will be too funny! I think Clemson went almost undefeated every year when they got sanctioned years ago…what to do?
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:15 am
Did they limit them to 15 total scholarships, or reduce their scholarships by 15 per year?
Because 15 total scholarships would be pretty laughable.
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:16 am
guest123 Says:
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:10 am
All wins from 1998-2011 vacated
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Wonder if this puts Bobby Bowden over the top now?
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paterno is now 8th all time
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:17 am
Basically, at some point you have to rank the crime in comparison to other fraudulent programs, don’t you?
So where does a top heavy conspiracy to cover-up child abuse behind the institutional program compare to the typical garden variety “money crimes” of other programs?
Money crimes I can fathom. We all have a greedy streak we feel embarrased about. But no one can (or should) be able to reconcile what happened at Penn St. Just unimaginable.
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:18 am
Didn’t they only ban SMU from games for one year, and than SMU just played again after that, in obscurity?
This whole “death penalty” term is used wrongly in my opinion.
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:18 am
1851.Just Fire Baby Says:
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:15 am
Did they limit them to 15 total scholarships, or reduce their scholarships by 15 per year?
Because 15 total scholarships would be pretty laughable.
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“Penn State must also reduce 10 initial and 20 total scholarships each year for a four-year period.”
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:18 am
guest123 Says:
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:08 am
I don’t see how they don’t get the death penalty
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Agree 100%…sandusk is a small fish of a wider scandal.
the orginal stuff coming out that was squashed in the begining suggested this was a sex pedo ring.
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:19 am
“With the wins from 1998-2011 vacated, Paterno moves from 409 wins to 298, dropping him from first to 12th on the winningest NCAA football coach list. Penn State will also have six bowl wins and two conference championships erased.”
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:19 am
The funny thing about the SMU deal was, after repeated warnings of paying players by the NCAA, they still kept doing it, and explained it by saying they had to honor their previous commitments to the players, lol.
Got to love Texas!!!!
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:19 am
See, to me..the nature of the crime is precedent setting. It deserves the highest punishment, if only to send a message that there isn’t any worse crime that you can commit. Knowingly endangering at-risk children is bottom of the barrel stuff.
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:20 am
compare the crime’s that were committed and the penalty, to what USC recieved with the Rbush stuff.
They should shut down ALL PSU sports.
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:21 am
And I believe it was the at the time current Governor of Texas (maybe former gov; not sure) that was the chairman of the SMU board, facilitating it all.
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:23 am
compare the crime’s that were committed and the penalty, to what USC recieved with the Rbush stuff.
They should shut down ALL PSU sports.
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I agree. But that won’t happen. Still, if there is a sanction at the top end, the “death penalty”. It should be given to them no questions asked or rebuttals taken. They need to send a message that on the level of sins possible to commit, this is the top of the scale. It’s the lowest depth of hell that Sandusky brought on those children. So should the program suffer the same. No difference in my mind. You can’t offer PSU any mercy.
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:23 am
One of the odd things in all this is the death of paterno…
Timming could not have been better for him.
wonder what he took to the grave???
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:24 am
the orginal stuff coming out that was squashed in the begining suggested this was a sex pedo ring.
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I completely agree that this HAD TO go a little beyond just some former DC doing it.
He was still taking kids on road trips to bowl games, 10 years after the initial claims, when OBVIOUSLY people like JoePa at least knew of the rumors, if not the truth of the rumors.
I’m sorry, Sandusky alone would not have that type of clout, IMO, but some high-dollar donors certainly would.
Sick MFers.
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:24 am
1854.Just Fire Baby Says:
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:18 am
Didn’t they only ban SMU from games for one year, and than SMU just played again after that, in obscurity?
This whole “death penalty” term is used wrongly in my opinion.
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I think they were allowed road games in year 2 of the punishment, but just decided to cancel that entire year also.
What happened was that since SMU wasn’t very relevant until they started paying players, then once they could no longer get away with paying players they just faded back to obscurity lol.
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:25 am
If PSU gets even a tiny bit of mercy, it sends a message for other programs as to just what is tolerated and what is not tolerated. They can’t afford to get this decision wrong.
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:27 am
SMU Death Penalty:
The 1987 season was canceled; only conditioning drills (without pads) were permitted until the spring of 1988.
All home games in 1988 were canceled. SMU was allowed to play their seven regularly scheduled away games so that other institutions would not be financially affected. The university ultimately chose to cancel the away games as well.
The team’s existing probation was extended to 1990.
Its existing ban from bowl games and live television was extended to 1989.
SMU lost 55 new scholarship positions over 4 years.
The team was allowed to hire only five full-time assistant coaches instead of the typical nine.
No off-campus recruiting was permitted until August 1988, and no paid visits could be made to campus by potential recruits until the start of the 1988–89 school year.
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:27 am
Paterno HAD TO KNOW what Sandusky was doing. Even an inkling of a suggestion of inappropriate behaviour should have been a HUGE RED FLAG. The fact that he knew even there was some evidence against Sandusky and didn’t act tells me that there was A WHOLE LOT more that Paterno took to his grave. Paterno is FILTHY with his hands in this mess.
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:29 am
Sick MFers.
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agreed…With all the Adult pxxy on planet earth, why in the h3ll would you want a child???
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:30 am
Cable > Paterno !!
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:30 am
guest123 Says:
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:27 am
Paterno HAD TO KNOW what Sandusky was doing. Even an inkling of a suggestion of inappropriate behaviour should have been a HUGE RED FLAG. The fact that he knew even there was some evidence against Sandusky and didn’t act tells me that there was A WHOLE LOT more that Paterno took to his grave. Paterno is FILTHY with his hands in this mess.
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Solid post Bruh…Soild
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:30 am
SMU was a powerhouse program back in the day. Eric Dickerson was the Marquee name that brought SMU into the public eye like the Notre Dame’s and Miami’s of the college football world. After the Death Penalty, they were marginalized and never the same.
PSU deserves to have all the ahtletic success as Penn U. They deserve to be ousted from the Big 10. Stripped of 1A conference and demoted to 2A level.
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:33 am
The A’s are rolling
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:35 am
I think they should have let a crowd of 100 boys rip down Paterno’s statue on live TV, and then let an angry mob into Sandusky’s wife’s house to give here a little justice for turning a blind eye, and then put Sandusky in gen pop and let that run its course, and then beat the hell out of that assistant who didn’t do enough to put an end to it right then and there….then burn down the board’s houses and raid their bank accounts and ban them from ever making more than minimum wage again in their lives!
Or just feed them all to the fishes!
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:36 am
Dakota Says:
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:08 am
$60 million dollar fine
No bowl games for 4 years
Scholarships reduced to 15 for 4 years
All wins from 1998-2011 vacated
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If this is final word on the subject, I’m very disappointed. SMU’s crimes in the 80’s are somehow worse than PSU’s child abuse crimes? Apparently yes according the wisdom of the NCAA.
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:37 am
1874.
I agree with all of that. except the part where you said “or” feed them to the pirannahs. I think it should be “and”.
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:39 am
Penn st should lose football for at least a yr.. At least.
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:42 am
Yup the A’s are rolling! Beane better leave this team alone! When is the trade deadline???
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:42 am
Could the A’s win 20 in a row again?
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:44 am
Fresno st had harsher penalties for axepting free noodles at lunch..
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:46 am
guest123 Says:
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:42 am
Could the A’s win 20 in a row again?
Well, 15 more to go…
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:46 am
Fresno St was a filthy program too, deserved what they got. Still, all its crimes are the type you can at least understand. Crimes of weakness and greed.
You have to check your mind into the asylum to understand the crimes and coverup of what Sandusky did. It’s a whole nother level.
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:47 am
Bean dip will kill the team next season..
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:50 am
Marks hair Says:
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:47 am
Bean dip will kill the team next season..
Good name…lol…I friggen hope not, but history tells me…
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:50 am
The penalty was stiff, but I don’t think it went far enough. I think a 2 year ban from playing football and a 4 year ban on being on TV or any bowl games, along with releasing all of the current players from their obligations and allowing them to sign on with other schools with no penalty would have been more appropriate.
These people knowingly let children be assaulted for over a decade in order to protect their program.
It is almost as bad as the Catholic Church! (but their football team knows nothing about that, that is on the Pope!)
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:52 am
Fresno State hoops with Tark were pretty filthy, not criminally as much (some) as PSU.
That documentary they did on them was awesome. Skip-to-my-Lou (Rafer Alston) being like a 22 year old freshman, dudes holding up frat parties with samarai swords, Chris Herron high as hell every day.
You know there had to be the one token, local, walk-on dork, who was like, what planet am I on here?
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:52 am
1882. It was a crime of greed. Joepa & penn st didnt want to kill the golden goose & face the music.. Greed & fear.. & probably loyalty to the man that built paternos defenses. The whole program needs to be shut down. Penalities are bullshlt
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:55 am
1885. Agreed.
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:56 am
While I think that what went on in the Catholic Church was bad, it’s unfair to say that it went all the way to the Pope. There’s over 1 billion people in the church. PSU has a much smaller management structure that can’t deny involvement. Can’t possibly say that about the Catholic Church.
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:58 am
We need a new post, its so sticky..
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:58 am
1886. All true. I was there and saw it firsthand. Filthy program for sure. Needed to be busted.
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:58 am
Kobe says Pau’s in L.A. as long as he is
Timberwolves sign Stiemsma to add to blocks, fouls in box score
Ben Wallace “50/50” on returning to Pistons or retiring
Bulls likely to sign Nazr Mohammed, paving way for Asik to head to Rockets
Celtics to sign Jason Collins, bench no longer complete disaster
Andrew Bogut tweets good news/bad news about ankle
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:59 am
I just wish JoePa would have had to live in shame from all of this, for awhile.
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:59 am
If you guys are having issues typing text into the comment box on this site, try opening a Word document and typing your comment there, and then copying and pasting it into the comment box. Just a suggestion.
Steve and Jerry have really let this place go to heck.
July 23rd, 2012 at 8:00 am
I am over the Andrew Bogut experience, before it begins.
If we get 100 games out of him before we ship him off, I would be amazed.
July 23rd, 2012 at 8:00 am
1887. Loyalty is a prized virtue in my book, goes with trust hand in hand. But misguided loyalty built on trust in someone you thought you knew, and then turn the other way is as sick as the act itself.
I agree it should have been all shut down.
July 23rd, 2012 at 8:00 am
Good riddance to P-State. How about them A’s? Money Ball part 2 here we go…..
July 23rd, 2012 at 8:05 am
What’s good AIG?
Happy to be out of the Memphis/Phoenix heat?
July 23rd, 2012 at 8:08 am
1889. The catholic church was “bad?”
But fresno st was “filthy”?
The church crusaded(murdered), burned women for being inteligent(whitch trials), and allowed chilren to be raped for ages…
July 23rd, 2012 at 8:08 am
$60 million dollar fine is pretty heavy. It is a common misconception that these football programs PROFIT billions of dollars.
It’s the NCAA that is making all the profits and the big bulk of TV revenue (why so many conferences and some teams have came up with their own conference or team TV channel) , a lot of football programs end up running in the red for the year.
My question is, what is the NCAA going to do with the money? Add it to the coffers?
July 23rd, 2012 at 8:10 am
1900.Just Fire Baby Says:
July 23rd, 2012 at 8:08 am
$60 million dollar fine is pretty heavy. It is a common misconception that these football programs PROFIT billions of dollars.
It’s the NCAA that is making all the profits and the big bulk of TV revenue (why so many conferences and some teams have came up with their own conference or team TV channel) , a lot of football programs end up running in the red for the year.
My question is, what is the NCAA going to do with the money? Add it to the coffers?
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The money is to be placed in a fund that will help fund child advocacy programs.
July 23rd, 2012 at 8:11 am
Morning JFB,
good to be home with families. It’s so damn crowded here. Going to be in Vegas for NFL opening day. Can’t wait. And the A’s are fun to watch again.
July 23rd, 2012 at 8:12 am
You trying to steal DAVs job Rockstar?
July 23rd, 2012 at 8:12 am
My question is, what is the NCAA going to do with the money? Add it to the coffers?
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What they should do is identify each of the victims and divvy up that and at least another matching NCAA punitive donation and set these boys up for life.
July 23rd, 2012 at 8:14 am
Sweet, you know where you are staying yet in Vegas?
I can’t stress enough, Las Vegas Hilton for the games. Not the Sports Book, but the theater (Barry Manilow theater).
Absolutely the 2nd best place on earth to watch games, other than at the game itself.
July 23rd, 2012 at 8:17 am
You trying to steal DAVs job Rockstar?
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@Marks Hair
when the cats are away, the mice will play!!
July 23rd, 2012 at 8:19 am
So who is Aaron Berry from Detroit? Any good?
July 23rd, 2012 at 8:21 am
Someone made the point that JoePa did not turn a blind eye to what was going on becuz he actually DID report it to the people who’s job it was to do something about it.
He said himself he should have done more, and he should have.
Too bad the kids who had nothing to do with any of this have to suffer, but that’s the way it goes.
July 23rd, 2012 at 8:22 am
Sandusky isn’t going to last a year in prison. He’s toast….
The worst thing about crimes against children is that you only have 1 childhood, and he robbed them of it…They lost their childhood to this man, and will always be searching to get it back, but its gone forever…
July 23rd, 2012 at 8:23 am
Well, this week is the calm before the storm.
Starting next Monday its football, football, football.
July 23rd, 2012 at 8:24 am
Attn: AM crew
are we gonna hit 2000 comments before Corkran gives us a new post with Palmer’s playoff prediction statement that Florio wrote up at PFT this morning ??
July 23rd, 2012 at 8:27 am
I say the new post goes up at 8:30
July 23rd, 2012 at 8:27 am
Big Ten announces additional sanctions against Penn State:
Penn State will be banned from participating in the conference championship game for four years, concurrent with the NCAA’s bowl ban.
Also, the school will receive no funds from the conference’s shared bowl revenues, estimated to be about $13 million (that money will be donated to established charitable organizations in Big Ten communities dedicated to the protection of children)
July 23rd, 2012 at 8:27 am
he actually DID report it to the people who’s job it was to do something about it.
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That’s how I feel about the red-headed dude that saw the shower scene.
Hindsight is always 20/20, and we would like to all think that at 23 years old, we would go be a hero and beat up the guy and take the kid, but that isn’t always the case.
He went and called his dad immediately, who was not like some local insurance agent guy; he had clout in the community and in the program, and was at JoePa’s house THE VERY NEXT MORNING, pointing the finger at maybe the 2nd most prestigious name in the football program.
If JoePa and his ilk would have done something about it, red-head would have been a hero for getting the right people involved and catching a child predator. Instead it was a mass cover-up from there.
July 23rd, 2012 at 8:28 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 23rd, 2012 at 8:24 am
Attn: AM crew
are we gonna hit 2000 comments before Corkran gives us a new post with Palmer’s playoff prediction statement that Florio wrote up at PFT this morning ??
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Will hit 2000 before 930a
July 23rd, 2012 at 8:29 am
930a pst
July 23rd, 2012 at 8:30 am
Well, this week is the calm before the storm.
Starting next Monday its football, football, football.
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@DJG
think we’ll add any players before camp opens??
are there any vacant roster spots, even?
July 23rd, 2012 at 8:32 am
I think i’m the only hillbilly that listens to Buddy Jewell
#notashamed
July 23rd, 2012 at 8:35 am
I count only 88 players on the Oakland Roster on Raiders.com
July 23rd, 2012 at 8:35 am
Rockstar,
I’ve been wondering that. Now that Reg has over 5 mill. to work with.
One thought is that he’s holding on to it just in case a big name goes down in camp and he can use it to bring someone good in to replace that player.
I was kind of hoping for EJ Henderson maybe.
July 23rd, 2012 at 8:38 am
Paterno & shower guy didnt report shlt! If the cops arent outside your house to question you, then you know it got burried.. They went along with a cover up for yrs…
July 23rd, 2012 at 8:40 am
If JoePa and his ilk would have done something about it, red-head would have been a hero for getting the right people involved and catching a child predator. Instead it was a mass cover-up from there.
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Red head should have talked to the press, get it out there. Some things like shower scenes you can’t “un-see”. They are with you forever. I’d not sleep at night until I did all I could to expose what was going on. It’s the only way to erase the memory of what you saw. If that’s even possible.
July 23rd, 2012 at 8:43 am
If you went to work & saw a rape would you tell just your boss? Or the cops?
July 23rd, 2012 at 8:43 am
Every day bloggers whine & complain about the secondary, namely the CB position …
If we have 2 roster spots open & Reggie has the funds, would anybody object to BigMac adding to top two CB’s on the market ??
they are Andre Goodman & CJ37
Question: do Bergs & Criner count towards the 90, if they haven’t been signed to deals yet ??
July 23rd, 2012 at 8:43 am
Penn State is dead move on
July 23rd, 2012 at 8:44 am
1921.Marks hair Says:
July 23rd, 2012 at 8:38 am
Paterno & shower guy didnt report shlt! If the cops arent outside your house to question you, then you know it got burried.. They went along with a cover up for yrs…
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Exactly. McQueary should have gone straight to the police, and if the local yokels wouldn’t listen, you call the State police or even the FBI to get the ball rolling.
Paterno had the juice to make sure Sandusky was destroyed, instead he let the monster loose to harm who knows how many more children over the past decade.
I hope Joe Pa is saving a space for Sandusky right next to him in the seventh circle of hell, because he and these other fkers who did nothing all deserve the same punishment.
July 23rd, 2012 at 8:44 am
If you went to work & saw a rape would you tell just your boss? Or the cops?
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@Marks Hair
before or after you killed the rapist ??
July 23rd, 2012 at 8:45 am
There is no defense for anyone involved.. Is sanduskys wife going to jail?
July 23rd, 2012 at 8:46 am
I think it is easy for people to say that from their desk.
If you saw something, went to JoePa who clearly WAS THE LAW, and it was covered up, pretty easy to get disgruntled about it all.
He told the authorities, in Happy Valley Joe Pa is the authority, and testified against him in court.
He did what he could and I commend him for it. I GUARANTEE that there were dozens if not hundreds of other people who saw creepy stuff and never said a word about it to anyone.
July 23rd, 2012 at 8:47 am
Question: do Bergs & Criner count towards the 90, if they haven’t been signed to deals yet ??
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They are included in the 88 roster spots at Raiders.com
July 23rd, 2012 at 8:47 am
1927.. Thats an appropriate response
July 23rd, 2012 at 8:47 am
RR
I think he saves that cap money for injuries that will eventually happen so when that time comes he will have some money to sign replacements.
July 23rd, 2012 at 8:48 am
What ever happened to the District Attorney that failed to indict and prosecute Sandusky after the initial Grand Jury hearings ?
If the DA had prosecuted Sandusky immediately, none of this would have been possible.
Penn State couldn’t have covered it up and harbored Sandusky. Most importantly, Sandusky wouldn’t have been able to continue to victimize children.
How the hell did Sandusky escape prosecution for so long ?
11 years ? Are you freaking kidding me ?
July 23rd, 2012 at 8:49 am
If we have 2 roster spots open & Reggie has the funds, would anybody object to BigMac adding to top two CB’s on the market ??
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negative. I’d try to pick up EJ Henderson and Visanthe Shiancoe as priority positions of need over 2 CB’s that don’t look like upgrades over what we already have. That’s to say, non-inspiring CB depth.
July 23rd, 2012 at 8:50 am
“Exactly. McQueary should have gone straight to the police, and if the local yokels wouldn’t listen, you call the State police or even the FBI to get the ball rolling.”
The local police had already relieved complaints about Sandusky and they decided that there was no crime and instead of digging deeper as they would have for you and I they saw Sandusky as a person they wanted to protect instead of prosecute. I blame the local police for not following up on the complaint!
July 23rd, 2012 at 8:53 am
1929. Its easy to say from anywhere. Joepas not the LAW. I dont need his money so badly that I wouldnt go strait to the cops.. Thats some greedy sad talk from you just fire baby.
July 23rd, 2012 at 8:53 am
Any kin or even people with the Sandusky name should be seriously considering legally changing it. It’s gotta be hard living with that name. “Mr Sandusky, your oil change is ready!”, as you duck in the corner. That name is garbage now. I know someone whose dad got thrown in jail and he changed his name. It’s hard to live like that.
July 23rd, 2012 at 8:54 am
I’d try to pick up EJ Henderson and Visanthe Shiancoe as priority positions of need over 2 CB’s that don’t look like upgrades over what we already have. That’s to say, non-inspiring CB depth.
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@G123
two “leaders” from Minny that just helped their team finish 3-13 ??
July 23rd, 2012 at 8:54 am
LOL at thinking some Podunk police department is going to do anything with any kind of information, without going to Joe Pa immediately first.
What McQueery did was go to the authorities. He went to the most powerful person in the area, and info GOT TO THE DA.
If everyone else would have done as much as red-head, this thing would have been handled in 1998 like it should have.
July 23rd, 2012 at 8:55 am
two “leaders” from Minny that just helped their team finish 3-13 ??
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Considering I want them as roster spots #52 and #53, that’s not a huge reach.
July 23rd, 2012 at 8:58 am
7 days.. 8 really. But im getting excited.. Im hoping at least one of our rooks can make an impact..
July 23rd, 2012 at 8:58 am
Any kin or even people with the Sandusky name should be seriously considering legally changing it. It’s gotta be hard living with that name.
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@G123
Sandusky married Dorothy “Dottie” in 1966, and together they have six adopted children. Sandusky and his wife have also served as foster parents. One of Sandusky’s sons, Jon Sandusky, is Director of Player Personnel for the Cleveland Browns.Another son, E. J. Sandusky, is an assistant football coach at West Chester University.
Matt Sandusky, adopted son and former foster child of Sandusky’s, released a statement through his attorneys saying that Sandusky had sexually molested him as a child. Matt Sandusky’s statement was released on the day the jury began deliberations in the sex abuse trial against Sandusky. -WIKI
July 23rd, 2012 at 8:59 am
Yo JFB,
thanks for the heads up on the Hilton. My bro and I were just discussing where to watch the game. We’ll prob stay at the RIO or Venetian.
July 23rd, 2012 at 9:03 am
He could have called the news and said I saw a rape at penn st and nobodys doing a fking thing about it! Call espn .. they are all guilty..
July 23rd, 2012 at 9:03 am
Rio is tough because it is off the strip, basically you can only walk to the Gold Coast or the Palms (or Jaquars, lol).
If your going to stay at the Venetian, might as well pony up a few extra bucks and stay at the Palazzo. Newer rooms, much nicer.
And book early, can’t stress it enough. You can probably book a mini-suite now, for less than the price you would pay for a regular room in 2 months
July 23rd, 2012 at 9:03 am
One of Sandusky’s sons, Jon Sandusky, is Director of Player Personnel for the Cleveland Browns.
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I wonder what Randy Lerner, Mike Holmgren & Tom Heckert think of having one of the Sandusky sons as Director of Player Personnel – like Joey Clinkscales is in Oakland or Reggie McKenzie was in Green Bay ???
July 23rd, 2012 at 9:06 am
can you imagine Sandusky Jr. trying to recruit players to come and join the Browns ??
LOL!!
nobody wants to play for Cleveland as it is. yikes
i’m waiting for a story from Peyton Hillis about why he bolted from there to join KC because Jon tried to take a shower with him
July 23rd, 2012 at 9:07 am
Brittany Snider wipes away tears as Paterno’s statue was removed. Hey Brittany, have any tears left for Sandusky’s victims?
July 23rd, 2012 at 9:08 am
If you wont protect a child your just trash..
July 23rd, 2012 at 9:09 am
Cleveland has sucked for awhile, but they are making a lot of the same stupid moves the Raiders were making the last decade. They are a franchise that is going nowhere, until a new Regime takes hold. Thankfully, we are on a new path toward greatness while Cleveland is stuck in neutral in the slow lane.
July 23rd, 2012 at 9:09 am
Kayla Weaver says ‘you can’t erase history, and you can’t erase a legend. You just can’t.’ Umm…they just did. Go grab a pillow.
July 23rd, 2012 at 9:10 am
Agreed JFB. Thanks dude.
July 23rd, 2012 at 9:10 am
My point is that 99% of the people in the program and around it did nothing to help the kids, and everything to cover up the program. The 1% who at least TRIED to do something, was red-head. Could he have done more? Of course, and I am sure it kills him inside he didn’t do more.
But he did SOMETHING, and quite frankly he did enough to where this thing should have been handled in 1998.
You think he was the only one who happened to see something from Sandusky? In 15+ years, this guy is brazen enough to do ish like that in the shower ON CAMPUS, take kids to bowl games, sleep over at their house or his? Come on!!! McQuerry did more than some of these victims parents did.
July 23rd, 2012 at 9:10 am
If you cause harm to a child (more stringent than just protecting a child imo), then you are trash.
July 23rd, 2012 at 9:13 am
If you wont protect a child your just trash..
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@Marks Hair
on friday you were talking about punching children for being loud in movie theatres, no?
July 23rd, 2012 at 9:14 am
Paterno’s family – ‘Tearing down the statue does not serve the victims of Jerry Sandusky’s horrible crimes’
Oh? The rest of the nation begs to differ. Excuse us for not wanting a child molestor’s protector memorialized.
July 23rd, 2012 at 9:15 am
Joe Pa’s statue shouldn’t have been taken down at 3 in the morning. It should have been a live news event on the national news channels. It should have mimicked Saddam H’s statue ceremony, dragged thru the streets and head cut off for posterity. Joe Pa is a villain and the day would be marked as a day to commemorate his downfall.
July 23rd, 2012 at 9:15 am
1953. All are guilty burn down the school
July 23rd, 2012 at 9:17 am
The beautiful irony of it all is that God somehow allowed Joe Pa to live to see the day of the ruin of his hallowed football program. God must have a wonderful sense of humor to grant Joe Pa an extra year of life.
July 23rd, 2012 at 9:20 am
Do they melt down the metal for raw material, or do they chop up parts of it and sell it on eBay?
July 23rd, 2012 at 9:22 am
It’s amazing to me that people build these statues and then worship them. it’s like the idiots who used to worship idols in the Biblical days
pretty soon reality is gonna slap you in the face
July 23rd, 2012 at 9:24 am
I said I wanted to do a backbreaker on someones toddler.. like bain in the batman comic book. But a dark sick sense of humor is ok. Doing bad things is not ok.. As Louie ck says anything bad or wrong is funny..
July 23rd, 2012 at 9:24 am
do they chop up parts of it and sell it on eBay?
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@G123
sad truth is, people would buy it!!
and if you hauled it to the dump, some nutcase would follow the dumptruck and dig it up.
Better just to melt it imo
July 23rd, 2012 at 9:30 am
As Louie ck says anything bad or wrong is funny..
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@Marks Hair
I dont agree with that.
I like Louie CK though, he is pretty funny (most of the time)
July 23rd, 2012 at 9:31 am
It won’t go to the dump. Should be made of bronze, which is valuable. Melt it and sell it.
July 23rd, 2012 at 9:32 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 23rd, 2012 at 9:22 am
It’s amazing to me that people build these statues and then worship them. it’s like the idiots who used to worship idols in the Biblical days
pretty soon reality is gonna slap you in the face
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Ah the dualities of life….you can add Christians, Muslims and Buddhists to that list as well.
July 23rd, 2012 at 9:36 am
Lol at Vick. Don’t you normally have to win a SuperBowl before talking of a dynasty? Lol
July 23rd, 2012 at 9:42 am
The paterno family seem like azzholes
July 23rd, 2012 at 9:44 am
“pretty soon reality is gonna slap you in the face”
Reality is that a statue is real and god is not.
July 23rd, 2012 at 9:45 am
Howard stern said they should add a phone to the staute so the future student can learn to call 911 when they see a rape