Heyward-Bey receives three years’ probation for DUI charge
By Steve Corkran
Monday, July 23rd, 2012 at 4:37 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Oakland Raiders wide receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey pleaded no contest Monday to a misdemeanor DUI charge in connection with his arrest on the Bay Bridge in April.
Heyward-Bey, 25, was pulled over at about 2 a.m. on April 7 on the lower deck of the bridge on his way back to the East Bay from a nightclub in San Francisco, his attorney Ivan Golde said.
He agreed to plead no contest in San Francisco Superior Court to the misdemeanor charge this morning in exchange for a sentence of three years’ probation, three months of DUI classes and various fines and fees.
Heyward-Bey had been pulled over after allegedly weaving and driving slightly above the speed limit in his 2012 Range Rover, according to the California Highway Patrol.
Prosecutors said a chemical test conducted at the scene found his blood-alcohol content was .13 percent, and a Breathalyzer test taken about an hour later found his BAC was still .12.
Golde had previously said there were “serious issues” with the case, but told Judge Samuel Feng today that seeking a trial on the charges would distract from with the Raiders’ upcoming season and “would be an undue hardship” on his client.
Heyward-Bey “wants to put this behind him,” Golde said.
Raiders players are scheduled to start reporting for the team’s preseason training camp this Sunday in Napa.
Heyward-Bey was Oakland’s top receiver last season, leading the Raiders with 64 receptions and 965 receiving yards, both career highs.
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July 23rd, 2012 at 4:41 pm
Put it behind you and don’t do it again!
July 23rd, 2012 at 4:42 pm
Yo!
July 23rd, 2012 at 4:43 pm
Focus on the season. those DUI classes are boring tho.
July 23rd, 2012 at 4:44 pm
Wish I had that kind of coin. Then I’d get a hotel room every time I was partying a little too hard with my posse! I wish…
July 23rd, 2012 at 4:44 pm
The NATION will rise
July 23rd, 2012 at 4:44 pm
wuzup with cork and jerry. Vaca is over duds write something about something, anything, players outlook, camp battles, anything, YO.
July 23rd, 2012 at 4:45 pm
How about one these posts mentioning when camp opens in NAPA!! The NATION is getting FIRED UP!!!!
July 23rd, 2012 at 4:46 pm
Lofty.
thats what im saying, get a room take a cab, or pay someone sober to drive you around. I just dont get it.
July 23rd, 2012 at 4:49 pm
Yeah no ish huh McF’sS? You know how easy it is for someone like DHB to get some 20yo kid to drive him and the posse around for a few hours? Or call a limo ON THE SPOT? So much easier than the $10K in attorney fees plus the $50K Goodell is gunna fine him.
July 23rd, 2012 at 4:50 pm
I just listen to A CP interview, where he was asked a question.
What is the toughest thing right now in camp?
Answer:
Toughest thing is we are not game planning for our Defense and our Defense does a TON of Diffrent stuff.
Our D has every possible coverage, and alignment…
July 23rd, 2012 at 4:55 pm
#10 – good stuff
July 23rd, 2012 at 4:55 pm
You on point lofty it could be a family member or friend they trust. Now he has a Rover that he cant drive cause his lisence is suspended. But he did the right thing and not drag it now that murph is gone there is no Question that he is our starter followed by Moore and Ford.
July 23rd, 2012 at 4:56 pm
Later Yo. i heard cork is doing a chat on wednesday.
July 23rd, 2012 at 4:56 pm
For those of you concerned that Knapp will run what was in Houston, or will be WCO listen to CP interview.
Our Offense although similiar to Houstons, will be diffrent.
I would suspect that we may be incorporating some of Al Saunders plays as well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFvQ_3U2obw&feature=plcp
July 23rd, 2012 at 4:57 pm
To hear ANYBODY say they are having trouble solving the conundrum that the Raider defense presents is music to my ears…
I’d like to hear that from Rivers and Manning though.
July 23rd, 2012 at 4:57 pm
Next, Yellow cab will be offering half-pricers if you’re an NFL player in need of a ride.
July 23rd, 2012 at 4:59 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
July 23rd, 2012 at 4:57 pm
To hear ANYBODY say they are having trouble solving the conundrum that the Raider defense presents is music to my ears…
I’d like to hear that from Rivers and Manning though.
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The main point I was making is, we won’t be vanilla, or predictable…
The O’s will see the kitchen, and the sink.
July 23rd, 2012 at 5:00 pm
@DJ Johnny
You are in Chicago?
Going to any Bears games this year?
Thinking about flying out for the Bears/Lions Monday night game.
July 23rd, 2012 at 5:01 pm
I really like Young General Patton…He has the “IT” factor
July 23rd, 2012 at 5:10 pm
I am out, you guys have a great one…
From MHUFF twitter
Michael Huff@Huffy247
Theres only one nation.
July 23rd, 2012 at 5:11 pm
Louis Murphy Jr@murph918
Wishing the @RAIDERS organization a good season this year. Thanks to all my fans!! I love you all
July 23rd, 2012 at 5:12 pm
Reggie has another draft pick for 2013; only our 2nd rounder missing, all can be traded, so I expect Raiders to move up into 2nd from 3rd round.
July 23rd, 2012 at 5:14 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
July 23rd, 2012 at 5:12 pm
Reggie has another draft pick for 2013; only our 2nd rounder missing, all can be traded, so I expect Raiders to move up into 2nd from 3rd round.
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We’re still missing the conditional 4th/5th to complete the Curry trade.
July 23rd, 2012 at 5:21 pm
18.DutchRaider77 Says:
July 23rd, 2012 at 5:00 pm
@DJ Johnny
You are in Chicago?
Going to any Bears games this year?
Thinking about flying out for the Bears/Lions Monday night game.
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Nah, the only Bear games i’ve gone to have been when they’ve played Raiders. We won both times.
My dad took me to see Bears Rams when I was a kid but that’s been it.
Nothing against it, just haven’t wanted to go bad enough I guess.
July 23rd, 2012 at 5:33 pm
There’s been a lot of news today. Not much about camp though, but it is Monday.
July 23rd, 2012 at 5:39 pm
8RaiderReign8 Says:
July 23rd, 2012 at 5:33 pm
There’s been a lot of news today. Not much about camp though, but it is Monday.
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They don’t report to camp until Sunday Nite, 1st practice next Monday.
July 23rd, 2012 at 5:43 pm
Did any of you see the expression on that idiot gunman’s face in court today? He looks just like Jamista Clown does when a five year old is explaining to him how to tie his shoes.
July 23rd, 2012 at 5:43 pm
Told you all DHB would wind up getting a Wet Reckless instead of a full on DUI charge.
July 23rd, 2012 at 5:44 pm
Go see THE DARK KNIGHT RISES in IMAX if you can!
EPIC!
July 23rd, 2012 at 5:46 pm
Was at the epic A’s game yesterday! True grit and scrappines by the A’s showing up again yesterday!
Nice little sweep of the Janks!
July 23rd, 2012 at 5:46 pm
Hope we can squeak out a 4th rounder for Murph.
July 23rd, 2012 at 5:47 pm
DKnight007 Says:
July 23rd, 2012 at 5:46 pm
Hope we can squeak out a 4th rounder for Murph.
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Nope. It was a conditional 7th rounder.
July 23rd, 2012 at 6:01 pm
Ugh
July 23rd, 2012 at 6:13 pm
DKight, I don’t think there is such a thing as a “Wet Reckless” in California. Certainly not when you are blowin a .13 and stripin a .12 an hour later or whatever. No young Darrius got hisself a full on DUI and will pay deraly for his lack of wisdom on getting a limo or a hotel room or utilization of his many other options instead of driving that night/morning.
July 23rd, 2012 at 6:14 pm
*dearly*
July 23rd, 2012 at 6:24 pm
BTW, Reggie letting Murphy go for a 7th-rounder indicates (IMHO) that DA, Knapp, Saunders and Gilmore had decided he was no better than a #6 or #7 receiver.
July 23rd, 2012 at 6:30 pm
WOW, get home from work and stumble on some Raider news…been awhile.
At least Murph got shipped off to a decent team. Hope he does well and makes the squad. Coaches must have knew he would get beat out in camp and tried to get what they could.
DHB, well…I’m kinda glad that he bit the bullet and didn’t linger this on into a jury trial.
July 23rd, 2012 at 6:39 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
July 23rd, 2012 at 6:24 pm
BTW, Reggie letting Murphy go for a 7th-rounder indicates (IMHO) that DA, Knapp, Saunders and Gilmore had decided he was no better than a #6 or #7 receiver.
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I disagree.
I think they realize Moore, Ford and DHB are probably the top 3. Then there’s Criner, McGee, Streeter, Murphy and Calhoun who are all in a muddle and who probably all merit a roster spot. Raiders could realistically only keep 3 of the 5. Murphy had the highest cap number and shortest remaining contract and was also possibly the only one with any trade value. So the Raiders dumped his $1.2 million cap hit — money that could be used to sign say Ced Benson — and got a little something in return.
Murphy is a good player. He was hurt last year and was really never himself, but he was our best receiver the two years prior — his first two in the NFL.
July 23rd, 2012 at 6:42 pm
I suspect Murphy will push Brandon LaFell for the starting spot opposite Steve Smith in Carolina. So this trade actually benefits him as well as he nears his second contract.
July 23rd, 2012 at 6:49 pm
Chris in NY Says:
July 23rd, 2012 at 6:42 pm
I suspect Murphy will push Brandon LaFell for the starting spot opposite Steve Smith in Carolina. So this trade actually benefits him as well as he nears his second contract.
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THATS WHAT I SAID!
July 23rd, 2012 at 6:53 pm
JLofty Says:
July 23rd, 2012 at 6:13 pm
DKight, I don’t think there is such a thing as a “Wet Reckless” in California. Certainly not when you are blowin a .13 and stripin a .12 an hour later or whatever. No young Darrius got hisself a full on DUI and will pay deraly for his lack of wisdom on getting a limo or a hotel room or utilization of his many other options instead of driving that night/morning.
^^^^^^^
There is a such a thing as a Wet Reckless charge instead of a full DUI conviction.
DHB was still convicted of a DUI, but his sentencing was reduced to what a person receives with a Wet Reckless, which is a significant reduction with the fine, and the wet will not be on the record for 10 years as it will the DUI.
No community service for a Wet and no IDD in the vehicle either.
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:02 pm
If the Louis Murphy I watched last season goes to Carolina he gets cut….hope this doesn’t happen so we can get something for nothing….
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:06 pm
What up Nation! Long time no post. Anyway, I hope Murphy don’t go off on us when we play Lina later this year. You know, go Pittsburgh on us.
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:10 pm
Raider Duck that was some funny shlt back there.
BTW that Christopher Hitchens book is amazing!
Loved it!
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:21 pm
Hoping that Palmer and DMac have killer games against the “Norv”ers in Week 1.
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:21 pm
Heard some good things about the Hitchens book. I may need to give it a read soon.
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:25 pm
YO DUDES
me and my girlfriend are coool with loui leaving the raids. we just think it will make more room for the rest of the players that catch the passes. but me and my girlfiend did like loui. was gonna invite him to one of our deuce blasting competitions. me and my girlfriend aint got nuthin to hide.
WE ROLL TO THE HOLLA HOLLA, GALLO WINE IS FINE
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:29 pm
DKnight007 Says:
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:21 pm
Heard some good things about the Hitchens book. I may need to give it a read soon.
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For any other aspiring Atheists on here, I’d recommend the following sequence:
1) Godless by Dan Barker — The first half is the autobiography of a hardcore bible-thumping preacher/songwriter (whose songs are still performed in churches nationwide) who became an Atheist. The second half is his compassionate refutation of Christianity.
2) The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins — Dawkins brings his considerable scientific heft against the concept of an Almighty. Particularly recommended is Chapter 4 (”Why There is Almost Certainly No God”).
3) God is Not Great by Christopher Hitchens — Hitch’s acid-fueled vitriolic rant against not only God, but the entire concept of religion itself. Might be even less compassionate towards belief than Dawkins.
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:38 pm
Two words, Young Darrius:
Hampton Inn
They are everywhere, look it up and don’t be such an idiot next time.
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:44 pm
Good read by Hitchens. Didn’t agree with him on some political issues, but I was with him on the stupidity of religion.
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:48 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:29 pm
DKnight007 Says:
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:21 pm
Heard some good things about the Hitchens book. I may need to give it a read soon.
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For any other aspiring Atheists on here, I’d recommend the following sequence:
1) Godless by Dan Barker — The first half is the autobiography of a hardcore bible-thumping preacher/songwriter (whose songs are still performed in churches nationwide) who became an Atheist. The second half is his compassionate refutation of Christianity.
2) The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins — Dawkins brings his considerable scientific heft against the concept of an Almighty. Particularly recommended is Chapter 4 (”Why There is Almost Certainly No God”).
3) God is Not Great by Christopher Hitchens — Hitch’s acid-fueled vitriolic rant against not only God, but the entire concept of religion itself. Might be even less compassionate towards belief than Dawkins.
^^^^^^6
I’m not an Athiest or even an aspiring one….but I have heard Hitchens book is a good read regardless.
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:50 pm
Nothing wrong with religion and for those who worship….my problem is with the radicals and the hard core right wing zealots who try and push their beliefs on people and their religion controls their warped political views and views regarding war.
July 23rd, 2012 at 7:57 pm
Ted Nugent scares the piss outta me!
July 23rd, 2012 at 8:00 pm
I guess I’m gettin’ ready to give up another #18 jersey!!
July 23rd, 2012 at 8:00 pm
I can understand guys who don’t like religion and all that. I don’t either, but noone will ever convince me that there is not some organizing intelligence who basically ’started’ everything.
Everything didn’t happen just by some fluke. And if it was a fluke, someone, something, some “entity”, force, whatever u wanna call it, started the fluke.
July 23rd, 2012 at 8:01 pm
RaiderDuck
I have read 2 of your three books I will check out the Dan Barker book because you recommended it.
July 23rd, 2012 at 8:10 pm
stupid trade, with dhb getting possible suspension….
July 23rd, 2012 at 8:19 pm
atheists are barking up the wrong tree. man has messed up religion, along with everything else. St. Augustine is a good read, “The City of God”. If the atheists had a clue, they’d understand that book.
July 23rd, 2012 at 8:20 pm
The fact that Christ paid the price for mankinds sin should not be taken lightly. atheists have a hard time with that. must be a power trip.
July 23rd, 2012 at 8:37 pm
Listen to the wisdom.
July 23rd, 2012 at 8:51 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
July 23rd, 2012 at 8:00 pm
I can understand guys who don’t like religion and all that. I don’t either, but noone will ever convince me that there is not some organizing intelligence who basically ’started’ everything.
Everything didn’t happen just by some fluke. And if it was a fluke, someone, something, some “entity”, force, whatever u wanna call it, started the fluke.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$
You are killing me dude. You believe in “organizing intelligence who basically ’started’ everything” but not God! Who do you think started everything? Aliens?
Where is TW?
July 23rd, 2012 at 8:54 pm
In the immortal words of the Easter bunny…..
Die with your boots on.
July 23rd, 2012 at 8:54 pm
Entity, force, whatever you want to call it… Just don’t call it God.
You People are funny.
July 23rd, 2012 at 8:55 pm
If the Big Bang Theory and some random act of chance was responsible for the Universe and this planet we live on…
then we should be able to dynamite the current Oakland Coliseum and a brand new state of the art Coliseum City Complex that will sustain the Raiders, A’s and Warriors should be able to independently appear.
If that sounds ridiculous to you then so should the notion of a mindless Big Bang Theory that resulted in an intelligent and highly organized universe.
July 23rd, 2012 at 8:57 pm
Ive never taken the time to really understand what atheists believe, or don’t believe. With my upbringing it’s all very foreign to me.
I’ve been taught there are eternal consequences for denying God. Not because God is some judgemental being in need of validation or anger management courses, but because there are consequences to everything in life.
Call it karma or whatever, bu what goes around comes around. At least that seems to be the case.
“Better to be nice and good…than to not”
-Steve Martin (Dirty Rotten Scoundrels)
July 23rd, 2012 at 9:01 pm
63.Raider O Says:
July 23rd, 2012 at 8:54 pm
Entity, force, whatever you want to call it… Just don’t call it God.
You People are funny.
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I’ll call it God. Just trying to not push my own thoughts.
July 23rd, 2012 at 9:03 pm
I’ve been taught there are eternal consequences for denying God. Not because God is some judgemental being in need of validation or anger management courses, but because there are consequences to everything in life.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Well said.
July 23rd, 2012 at 9:04 pm
Religion is like politics.
Money, land and power.
July 23rd, 2012 at 9:05 pm
To suggest that everything in life…creation in its entirety was created by some random “chance” makes absolutely no sense to me.
July 23rd, 2012 at 9:10 pm
I don’t believe in random chance.
July 23rd, 2012 at 9:14 pm
Can we apply occam’s razor to this situation? Is god the simplest solution/ explanation?
July 23rd, 2012 at 9:14 pm
“(Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT)
If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.
So its ok to rape a woman if you have 50 pieces of gold.
No thanks I will throw this book in the trash and learn how to be a good human from another book.
July 23rd, 2012 at 9:21 pm
” When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl’s owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)”
Rape sex slaves prejudice and forced marriage. Horrible way to treat women.
July 23rd, 2012 at 9:22 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
July 23rd, 2012 at 9:05 pm
To suggest that everything in life…creation in its entirety was created by some random “chance” makes absolutely no sense to me.
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Of course it makes no sense. But I know of nobody who believes that.
July 23rd, 2012 at 9:23 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
July 23rd, 2012 at 8:55 pm
If the Big Bang Theory and some random act of chance was responsible for the Universe and this planet we live on…
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That’s not remotely what evolution is.
July 23rd, 2012 at 9:26 pm
Never discuss politics, or religion in a bar, or internet board.
July 23rd, 2012 at 9:26 pm
Wisdom Is Not Easy Says:
July 23rd, 2012 at 8:20 pm
The fact that Christ paid the price for mankinds sin should not be taken lightly. atheists have a hard time with that. must be a power trip.
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The “power trip” belongs to your God. Demanding worship all the time, sentencing people to death for doing things he created us to do in the first place, monitoring everything we do all day and even our very thoughts.
As for your Christ: So he volunteers to be sacrificed as “payment” for breaking a bunch of rules he made himself and then condemned us to death for breaking. Why not just forgive everyone and be done with it?
July 23rd, 2012 at 9:43 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
July 23rd, 2012 at 9:23 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
July 23rd, 2012 at 8:55 pm
If the Big Bang Theory and some random act of chance was responsible for the Universe and this planet we live on…
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That’s not remotely what evolution is.
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Haha! Regardless of the process or how long it took, the Big Bang surmises that all life and creation in existence, both animate and inanimate, came about as the result of a mindless, purposeless, random explosion!
To deny that is completely disingenuous.
Like I said, when we can blow up the current Coliseum and expect a new, shiny, State of the Art Coliseum Complex to appear over time in its place, then I will believe in your so called Big Bang theory…lol
July 23rd, 2012 at 9:49 pm
July 23rd, 2012 at 9:57 pm
All religion is a joke designed to create fear and control your mind through guilt.
But for the atheists I have a comment:
“It doesn’t matter if you believe in God, cause he/she/it believes in you”
July 23rd, 2012 at 9:58 pm
Mr Green Says:
July 23rd, 2012 at 9:49 pm
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Love the BIBLE though….great book!
July 23rd, 2012 at 10:07 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
July 23rd, 2012 at 9:05 pm
To suggest that everything in life…creation in its entirety was created by some random “chance” makes absolutely no sense to me.
^^^^^^^^
Exactly
July 23rd, 2012 at 10:12 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
July 23rd, 2012 at 9:43 pm
Like I said, when we can blow up the current Coliseum and expect a new, shiny, State of the Art Coliseum Complex to appear over time in its place, then I will believe in your so called Big Bang theory…lol
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No, no, no. The way it happened is this: We get mutations all the time from background radiation and whatnot. 99.9% or more of those are either meaningless or destructive. Those do not get passed on. But once in a while, you get a mutation that is beneficial to the creature in question and makes it more likely that this creature will have lots and lots of children, all of which share the same mutation. Later descendants will also develop mutations, some of which are even more beneficial, and those get passed on.
There’s nothing “random” about the process. In fact, it’s the exact opposite of random.
Richard Dawkins explains this all a lot better than I, and I refer you his works. “The God Delusion” I can recommend, but I also understand “The Selfish Gene” is quite good as well.
July 23rd, 2012 at 10:15 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
July 23rd, 2012 at 9:14 pm
“(Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT)
If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.
So its ok to rape a woman if you have 50 pieces of gold.
No thanks I will throw this book in the trash and learn how to be a good human from another book.
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S&B Triple Six-
As you should well know, the Bible has been translated into several languages and many different renderings and translations are in existence…
In the ORIGINAL HEBREW that scripture is NOT referring to forcible rape. The word used there in its original language is talking about a case when a man tries to persuade and seduce an unmarried woman into having sex with him and she eventually consents.
This can be proven because if you simply go back 3 verses to verse 25 of the same chapter it clearly says…
“If a man find a betrothed young woman in the field, and the man forces her, and lies with her: then the man that lay with her shall die.
In that verse a DIFFERENT word is used to describe the sexual encounter than the word used in verse 28. The word used there clearly means forcible rape.
When you are reading the bible it is always good to reference the original languages it was written in, in order to make sure that the corresponding English translation is conveying the correct and full sense of the scripture…
Sorry, but you have to do better than that. No disrespect, but trying to use that scripture to prove your case actually just showed your own ignorance.
July 23rd, 2012 at 10:21 pm
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July 23rd, 2012 at 10:24 pm
That’s what I’m talking about.
July 23rd, 2012 at 10:24 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
July 23rd, 2012 at 10:12 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
July 23rd, 2012 at 9:43 pm
Like I said, when we can blow up the current Coliseum and expect a new, shiny, State of the Art Coliseum Complex to appear over time in its place, then I will believe in your so called Big Bang theory…lol
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No, no, no. The way it happened is this: We get mutations all the time from background radiation and whatnot. 99.9% or more of those are either meaningless or destructive. Those do not get passed on. But once in a while, you get a mutation that is beneficial to the creature in question and makes it more likely that this creature will have lots and lots of children, all of which share the same mutation. Later descendants will also develop mutations, some of which are even more beneficial, and those get passed on.
There’s nothing “random” about the process. In fact, it’s the exact opposite of random.
Richard Dawkins explains this all a lot better than I, and I refer you his works. “The God Delusion” I can recommend, but I also understand “The Selfish Gene” is quite good as well.
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Raider Duck-
No disrespect to you man but you and I are talking about something totally different. I’m talking about the Big Bang that supposedly started EVERYTHING. You are talking about Mutations….
First of all Mutations still result in a creature or organism that ALREADY EXISTS. A Mutation does not explain how the organism that mutated got there in the FIRST PLACE!
Secondly Mutations do not explain how the Stars and Planets and logical arrangement of the solar system came to be…
Everything in the Universe is in perfect harmony and arrangement. Even our planet (until humans interfere and destroy the natural balance of things) is perfectly suited for life.
If you walked into a perfectly decorated, air conditioned, and furnished home, would it be logical to assume that it all came about without an intelligent designer, but rather as the result of an uncontrolled explosion?
Sometimes people can try to sound so intelligent in their denial of a higher, intelligent, being that they make themselves sound completely ridiculous.
July 23rd, 2012 at 10:29 pm
Mr. Green makes a great point.
July 23rd, 2012 at 10:36 pm
LOL….agreed Johnny….well said Mr. Green…you say it best when you say nothing at all!
July 23rd, 2012 at 10:38 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
July 23rd, 2012 at 10:24 pm
Everything in the Universe is in perfect harmony and arrangement. Even our planet (until humans interfere and destroy the natural balance of things) is perfectly suited for life.
If you walked into a perfectly decorated, air conditioned, and furnished home, would it be logical to assume that it all came about without an intelligent designer, but rather as the result of an uncontrolled explosion?
Sometimes people can try to sound so intelligent in their denial of a higher, intelligent, being that they make themselves sound completely ridiculous.
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Dawkins estimates in “The God Delusion” that there are 1,000,000,000,000,000,000 (that’s one billion billion, or one quintillion) planets capable of supporting life in the known universe (remember that the known universe consists of roughly one hundred billion galaxies, each containing an average of one hundred billion stars). Even if the spontaneous arising of life (probably caused by radioactive mutations of existing substances into molecule RNA, the precursor to DNA) was only a once-in-a-billion chance, that still leaves one billion life-supporting planets in the universe.
Also, your home analogy is backwards. The earth was not designed for us, but rather we adapted to fit it. Saying the earth was made for us is the equivalent of a sentient puddle thinking the hollow in the concrete was made for it. No, it wasn’t.
And for my final question: Suppose for a second that you’re right. Suppose a universe this complicated really does have a designer. Let’s call that designer “God.” Here’s my question: since we already know that a single designer can only design things less complicated than him/herself, who designed God? And who designed the being that designed God? And so forth. Remember that if the universe is too complicated to not have a designer, then that designer would OBVIOUSLY have to have its own designer.
July 23rd, 2012 at 10:38 pm
ArmChair, That’s why it baffles me that anyone could think that way.
Now if someone wants to say “I believe there was SOME kind of organizing “intelligence” that started it all but that “entity” distances itself from mankind’s trvial affairs and does not intervene in any of our activities…. it makes more sense. I don’t believe that to be true but I can understand why they might think that way.
While God may intervene on behalf of an earnest request on occasion, I still refuse to believe He’s a fan of the Dallas Cowboys.
July 23rd, 2012 at 10:40 pm
Thec Says:
July 23rd, 2012 at 4:56 pm
For those of you concerned that Knapp will run what was in Houston, or will be WCO listen to CP interview.
Our Offense although similiar to Houstons, will be diffrent.
I would suspect that we may be incorporating some of Al Saunders plays as well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFvQ_3U2obw&feature=plcp
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I should hope so…
I would like to add that I love the way Carson conducts himself in all of his interviews. He has a calmness about him that can only continue to spread throughout this organization.
He is truly a quality QB who has been stuck in Ohio his entire career….I know each player has to make his own luck…but the Bengals….really? Not much talent and even worse coaching in Cinncy then we’ve had here in recent years….
So I welcome Carson, last year he did all anyone could possibly expect….this year will be different!
July 23rd, 2012 at 10:45 pm
Yeah, Palmer conducts himself in a very professional way.
July 23rd, 2012 at 10:48 pm
I just don’t know how all these rollouts and bootlegs are going work out for him. Plus, when you roll to one side, you’re limiting your passing options to that side.
July 23rd, 2012 at 10:50 pm
Carson was smart enough to deflect his ability onto McFadden as well.
Carson is more humble than other QB’s in this league.
I only hope the Coaching Staff takes advantage of his ability to find the right play call through the development of quality NFL concepts….
Carson mentioned McFadden would be the workhorse….but the team will only go as far as the Coaching, Defense and Carson can take us….
July 23rd, 2012 at 10:51 pm
Kell, I couldn’t agree more my disagreeable friend….this and the corners are my 2 major concerns….
July 23rd, 2012 at 10:52 pm
If there are 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000, and then some planets capable of sustaining life out there, don’t you think the Hubble would have found at least one of them or don’t you think one of them would have found us? Gentlemen, we stand alone. Yes God, in all his glory and beginning is a mystery. And I’m good with that.
BTW, my bags are packed and waiting for CP3 and company to lead the way to Nawleens.
July 23rd, 2012 at 10:52 pm
If we are going to run the zone scheme….we don’t have to always be bootlegging though…we can run some play action with long fakes and not have to turn our backs to the defense….similar to the way Peyton does…
July 23rd, 2012 at 10:52 pm
Yep, the corners are my concern too, my friend.
July 23rd, 2012 at 10:55 pm
Hebrews 3:4
“Of course, every house is constructed by someone, but he that constructed all things is God.”
Somehow this simple, irrefutable logic eludes the atheists…smh
We have all seen a house. We all know that SOMEONE built it.
Yet I’m being told to ignore this simple logic and listen to some man named “Dawkins” who estimates that there is 1,000,000,000,000,000 blah, blah, blah….
I don’t listen to anyone named Dawkins who doesn’t play Pro Football!
July 23rd, 2012 at 10:57 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
July 23rd, 2012 at 10:55 pm
Hebrews 3:4
“Of course, every house is constructed by someone, but he that constructed all things is God.”
Somehow this simple, irrefutable logic eludes the atheists…smh
We have all seen a house. We all know that SOMEONE built it.
Yet I’m being told to ignore this simple logic and listen to some man named “Dawkins” who estimates that there is 1,000,000,000,000,000 blah, blah, blah…
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In other words, you’re asking to not be bothered with the facts.
And you still haven’t answered my question? Who created God?
July 23rd, 2012 at 10:58 pm
Backstage, I agree on Carson. He’s got a very cool way about him. Classy, with a bit of an edge.
He’s a cool customer.
The bummer (for me) is he IS getting older and we only have a handful of yrs. left to see him on the field. Maybe 7 if we’re lucky.
It’s almost like he wasted 10 yrs. in Cincy. He did have a couple of pro bowl yrs. but languishing with a sub par talent base is just unfortunate for Palmer…..and us.
I believe he had the makeup to be one of the greats. I can’t blame his lack of big time success on everyone else but him…Palmer wouldn’t either, but given the right situation…he could have been something very special.
He still can be, but the bummer is he doesn’t have all the time in the world anymore.
July 23rd, 2012 at 10:58 pm
Genius 1:1
July 23rd, 2012 at 10:58 pm
I’m wondering if Reggie is going to take a look at the kid from Detroit who got cut today…..arrested twice in a month is never a good thing….
Then again….entering camp with Corners who haven’t played quality snaps in 2 years is a big risk at this point….
Even I wanted ROMAC out the door after his fiasco….but the DB situation is a major concern.
I hope Reggie is right and I’m wrong about the current roster at the position.
July 23rd, 2012 at 10:59 pm
Mr Green Says:
July 23rd, 2012 at 10:52 pm
If there are 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000, and then some planets capable of sustaining life out there, don’t you think the Hubble would have found at least one of them or don’t you think one of them would have found us? Gentlemen, we stand alone. Yes God, in all his glory and beginning is a mystery. And I’m good with that.
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Even the Hubble can’t find many planets out there. Too small, and too far away. And the thought that we’re the only planet that can possibly support life in the entire universe…? Even I’M not that narcissistic.
July 23rd, 2012 at 11:00 pm
*Genisis
July 23rd, 2012 at 11:00 pm
Palmer has just the kind of past we need in our QB right now….it completely parallels what this organization has gone through….
He can bring the trophy to this team.
I believe it!
July 23rd, 2012 at 11:00 pm
The LBers concern me more than the corners.Most teams seem to do fine with no name CBs.One or two of the young backs will emerge into a viable players,IMO.
July 23rd, 2012 at 11:04 pm
Backstageatapuppetshow Says:
July 23rd, 2012 at 11:00 pm
Palmer has just the kind of past we need in our QB right now….it completely parallels what this organization has gone through….
He can bring the trophy to this team.
I believe it!
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Nawleens Baby.
July 23rd, 2012 at 11:04 pm
Lefty, I really like Curry….and while our run defense has been a concern I am of the opinion it had a great deal to do with our scheme….
Playing man so often turns the back of our secondary away from the line of scrimmage….the defensive line has seemed to play for themselves and not as a unit working to stop the run (in certain games).
The reason our secondary scares me is because of the QBs in our division.
While I see your concern at LB…to me, the corner spot is huge right now.
July 23rd, 2012 at 11:07 pm
Bartell & Spencer haven’t done anything. Yeah, I’m hoping Van Dyke and Chekwa can play.
July 23rd, 2012 at 11:09 pm
As far as our other backers go….Wimbley was essentially just a pass rusher….McClain, was hobbled most of last season with his ankle….and Curry was a project learning on the fly.
This team has not game planned to stop a specific opponent in years….
They simple rely on their Gap Integrity, Tackling, and blitz guess packages.
We have rarely made any halftime adjustments.
These are reasons why we have been so inconsistent.
Don’t you guys wonder why our defense looks so good at times and so bad at others…
COACHING & SCHEME…
Been saying it for years!
July 23rd, 2012 at 11:10 pm
This should not be the case this year.
July 23rd, 2012 at 11:11 pm
I don’t have the same faith in Curry that many of you have.Who knows what will happen with McClain.They might turn into a strength but I’ll need to see it before I’m convinced.While I agree both are concerns,for me the LB unit is most pressing as I believe they were largely responsible for our terrible run defense.
July 23rd, 2012 at 11:12 pm
*both units are concerns……
July 23rd, 2012 at 11:15 pm
While I agree both are concerns,for me the LB unit is most pressing as I believe they were largely responsible for our terrible run defense.
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Against Denver, in game 2 last year….I completely agree with you regarding our linebacker play….probably the worst I’ve ever seen by an NFL team.
With an exception of this game….I disagree lefty..and think you will be pleasantly surprised this season.
July 23rd, 2012 at 11:15 pm
The run defense was terrible long before this LB group got here. The D-line doesn’t keep them clean, as they were not asked to.
July 23rd, 2012 at 11:16 pm
Gnite Gents.
July 23rd, 2012 at 11:18 pm
We have been possibly the most talented athletic football team and at the same time possibly the most ignorant for 10 years…..
This is why our team is inconsistent. This is why we can look so good on some downs and so incredibly poor on others…
Recently, the past couple seasons…at least we got an EFFORT within our play….
But we haven’t played SMART football the way some teams do in YEARS….
July 23rd, 2012 at 11:19 pm
Ahhh the defense.
How does an NFL defense allow Buffalo to score TD’s on EVERY SINGLE 2ND HALF POSSESSION after holidng them to a FG in the 1st half?
I’ll subscribe to the thought they were out of gas having to travel to the east coast for an early game after playing on MNF on the road, but that was ridiculous.
Hue and Bresnahan got their azzes handed to them in the 2nd half of more than a couple games.
July 23rd, 2012 at 11:19 pm
True,KK,but how long has it been since we’ve actually had good-great LB play.They were great against the pass a few years ago,but besides that I can’t remember our LBers being anything but below avg.
July 23rd, 2012 at 11:20 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 23rd, 2012 at 11:15 pm
The run defense was terrible long before this LB group got here. The D-line doesn’t keep them clean, as they were not asked to.
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Exactly
July 23rd, 2012 at 11:26 pm
I wholeheartedly agree the scheme was terrible for years and we all know why.I also feel the LBers weren’t a high enough priority by the previous GM and therefore we suffered at the position.
July 23rd, 2012 at 11:30 pm
Agreed
July 23rd, 2012 at 11:32 pm
I will add that I took no issue with Captain Kirk or Thomas Howard….
2 men who gave their all….didn’t point guns at their friends when they attended funerals…were affordable….and never missed a game their entire careers with the silver and black!
July 23rd, 2012 at 11:33 pm
They were traded because Mr. Davis felt they were the reason for our rush defense….
Mr. Davis was wrong about both these men…and I can say that because I communicated this fact to him.
July 23rd, 2012 at 11:41 pm
Watching Scent of a Woman….
Gotta love this scene….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGLtzRrKqng
Goodnight my Friends’
July 24th, 2012 at 12:24 am
Too bad about Murphy not panning out with the Raiders. I would have liked to see what he had after his groin injury–but I ain’t close to the situation. Maybe Reggie, Knapp, or even Palmer saw that something wasn’t there. I don’t know about this Criner guy. I’m glad that the team sees something in him now but it needs to show during game-time. Murphy showed that he was the only servicable WR during the JaMarcus era.
On the other hand, this free’s up about 1.3 million in cap space. That takes us to about what 7 to 8 million in cap space…hmmmmm…
It can’t be all for Benson. Is there someone else they are targeting?
Are they getting ready to unload McClain and take the cap hit?
Are they gonna let it roll into next season nd make a splash then?
Is revenue that low (godforbid) that they can’t afford to fill that amount in payroll?
Interesting………………………….
July 24th, 2012 at 3:17 am
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July 24th, 2012 at 5:05 am
I watched a fair amount of Houston games, certainly their two playoff games, our game the last years, and a handful of others, and I don’t remember them running any extreme or even abnormal amount of “rollouts and bootlegs”.
I rewatched the ENTIRE Houston game from last year. One, count it ONE, extreme bootleg type play from Schaubb, when he rolled one way and threw back to the TE who was wide-open for a 50 yard TD.
There is a lot of play-action, misdirection going on at the LOS, and some little slight rollouts to some short passes.
But nothing really more than that. No sprint-out type plays, no Shanahan-Jake Plummer naked bootleg type stuff. I am sure it was in the playbook, but it wasn’t used.
July 24th, 2012 at 5:21 am
I like the way that LM chose to say farewell to the Nation. He was reportedly upset with the Raiders organization, but he handled his departure with class. I think Reggie did him a favor sending him to Carolina where he’ll have a full training camp to compete for a potential starting spot opposite Steve Smith. He was going to go into Raiders training camp shooting to make the team on the strength of his special team skills, and would be buried on the depth chart. He really didn’t have a chance in Oakland.
New regime, new rules. Fresh start for everyone. Reggie accumulates draft picks and clears cap space. WIN-WIN deal. I love what the new REGGIME is all about.
July 24th, 2012 at 5:27 am
Another player I’d love to see Reggie dangle to see if there is any interest is MM34. Wasn’t Chicago all upset when AD “stole” him in the 2nd round? I remember it was reported a few teams had MM34 as a draft sleeper. It would be nice to get a 7th rounder for him as well.
July 24th, 2012 at 5:36 am
Love these offseason trades. AD wasn’t nearly as active shopping bubble players. Reggie’s a wolf getting something for nothing. And he sends a message to the scholarship players that you too could be sent packing for a box of crackerjacks.
July 24th, 2012 at 5:37 am
Lou Murph has made plays in his career, clutch 4th quarter grabs in road games.
“Missile” Mike…………not so much.
If Lou is worth a conditional 7th rounder, than MM34 is worth a conditional ham-sandwich.
July 24th, 2012 at 5:40 am
If Lou is worth a conditional 7th rounder, than MM34 is worth a conditional ham-sandwich.
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I’ll take mine to go with spicy mustard, if you please.
July 24th, 2012 at 5:41 am
and throw in some “Sun” Chips too. Cheddar. Love those.
July 24th, 2012 at 5:44 am
Speaking of Cheddar, what strategy can RM use to bring the exodus of Slo?
July 24th, 2012 at 5:58 am
My wife and I are kind of mustard snobs.
Has to be Gulden’s spicy brown on a sandwich.
I like the stone ground stuff as well on a Knish or Italian salami pie.
July 24th, 2012 at 5:58 am
Speaking of Cheddar, what strategy can RM use to bring the exodus of Slo?
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Well, after he makes a few Pro Bowls we can let him walk in FA and get a compensatory pick for him.
July 24th, 2012 at 5:59 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
July 24th, 2012 at 6:03 am
I’m not the only one that sees Moore as our #1 WR…I wonder why RRS thinks DHB will be #1?
I could also see Moore (if healthy) double his stats from last year to
1,236 Receiving
10 TD’s
I’m going out on a limb here, and I think that “By the seasons End”……Criner will have had most receptions and TD’s by our receiveing Corps.
By seasons end he will be thew NATION’S best WR
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@ray, Thec & 79
King Darrius will rule & reign in 2012!
Year #3 is when most NFL players who were raw or unproven out of college but had great measurables start to “get it”
Week 4 against the Patriots was a turning point for Heyward-Bey and he hasn’t looked back since.
I’m predicting 80 catches & 1200 yards. 6 TD’s
July 24th, 2012 at 6:04 am
Well, after he makes a few Pro Bowls we can let him walk in FA and get a compensatory pick for him.
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lol good one!
July 24th, 2012 at 6:05 am
Good morning everybody
July 24th, 2012 at 6:05 am
I like American mustard. the yellow classic style
every other kind is disgusting!!
July 24th, 2012 at 6:08 am
the yellow classic style
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SMH in disgust!!!
That’s like saying you like Asian food, because you go to Panda Express.
July 24th, 2012 at 6:08 am
Wouldn’t be surprised to see Bey go the way of Murph next year with the expected emergence of Juron Criner.
Criner/Moore is going to be a lethal duo. It’s time for DHB to really step up his game if he wants to see the field. Criner is going to be a star I believe.
July 24th, 2012 at 6:09 am
149. I’m total agreement w/you.
yellow “baby vomit” mustard is disgusting.
July 24th, 2012 at 6:10 am
It’s all in the process.
Draft Lou in the 5th, have him be real productive for 2 years until we increase the talent at his position (through Ford, Moore and Criner all 5th rounders I believe), than schlepp him off for a later round pick…….rinse, wash, repeat.
The Reggie clearly has a plan.
July 24th, 2012 at 6:11 am
guest123 Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 5:40 am
If Lou is worth a conditional 7th rounder, than MM34 is worth a conditional ham-sandwich.
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I’ll take mine to go with spicy mustard, if you please.
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LOL..I’m sure Reg could at least get BK’s Bacon sundae’s for the entire team in exchange for MM.
July 24th, 2012 at 6:11 am
What other “scholarship” roster bubble players can RM deal for a 7th rounder and a bag of chips?
MM34
Goethal
Barnes
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July 24th, 2012 at 6:12 am
You can use those brown and stone mustards for marinades and stuff as well.
The “American” stuff is like American cheese, and like Aaron Curry.
No versatility!!!!
July 24th, 2012 at 6:12 am
What other “scholarship” roster bubble players can RM deal for a 7th rounder and a bag of chips?
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Terrell Pryor
July 24th, 2012 at 6:13 am
Ooops…..did I say that out loud??!!???
July 24th, 2012 at 6:13 am
The Reggie clearly has a plan
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Yeah, my trash your treasure.
July 24th, 2012 at 6:14 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 6:12 am
What other “scholarship” roster bubble players can RM deal for a 7th rounder and a bag of chips?
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Terrell Pryor
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Yeah, I’m down with that.
July 24th, 2012 at 6:15 am
Add Aaron Curry to the my trash your treasure list!
July 24th, 2012 at 6:15 am
guest123 Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 6:11 am
What other “scholarship” roster bubble players can RM deal for a 7th rounder and a bag of chips?
MM34
Goethal
Barnes
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Those 3 guys should be the 1st to go, Barnes gets no luv from me, get rid of Goethel if he so much as gets a headache.
July 24th, 2012 at 6:15 am
Draft Lou in the 5th
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@JFB
your boy Murphy was a 4th rounder, no?
Anyways, I think he had way more value to us than a “conditional” 7th rounder!
for a team with so many WR injuries, I gotta think his number would have been called plenty next season, even as the 4th best WR on the team
you cats are delusional if you think guys like McGee & Calhoun can produce like #18
July 24th, 2012 at 6:16 am
guest123 Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 6:14 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 6:12 am
What other “scholarship” roster bubble players can RM deal for a 7th rounder and a bag of chips?
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Terrell Pryor
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Yeah, I’m down with that.
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Not me gents…Pryor deserves a fair shot to compete imo.
July 24th, 2012 at 6:17 am
guest123 Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 6:08 am
Wouldn’t be surprised to see Bey go the way of Murph next year
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55 and DHB “off the team”??????
I just don’t get why you would be “rooting” against our players like that.
DHB is CLEARLY getting better. He can’t even be the 3rd or 4th WR on the team? You’d rather have a 7th rd pick????
SMH
July 24th, 2012 at 6:18 am
for a team with so many WR injuries, I gotta think his number would have been called plenty next season, even as the 4th best WR on the team
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LM would have been competing with McGee and Calhoun for the WR6 spot. He would have been likely cut anyway. We do him a favor for his service and send him to a WR needy team and reap an extra draft pick. He didn’t want to be a Raider anyway. Good for him. Good for us.
July 24th, 2012 at 6:18 am
Terrelle Pryor will start to come on in Year #3 , like most other kids out of college that require development before becoming shining stars in the pros
July 24th, 2012 at 6:18 am
Ooops…..did I say that out loud??!!???
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If you didn’t, I would have.
July 24th, 2012 at 6:18 am
you cats are delusional if you think guys like McGee & Calhoun can produce like #18
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I don’t think day 1 they will, so I agree.
You know I was a big Lou Murph supporter, however, there seems to have been some type of personality/baggage issue that The Reggie was not too fond of, that I was not privy too.
I also believe, The Reggie has added some quality ST guys in the mix (Goodsen, Toffy, Stupar, etc) to make up for the fact our 4th or 5th WR won’t be covering punts like Lou did last year.
July 24th, 2012 at 6:20 am
Murphy got cut due to his inability to stay healthy, as should Goethel imo. As far as everyone else goes, I’m giving everyone(even 55) a clean slate under the new regime and a chance to prove me wrong.
July 24th, 2012 at 6:20 am
LM would have been competing with McGee and Calhoun for the WR6 spot.
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@G123
I’m not ready to say Criner & Streater are both better than Murphy based upon non-contact OTA’s in which Lou wasn’t even able to participate due to a hammy strain!
July 24th, 2012 at 6:21 am
I’m not actually rooting against DHB. Just don’t think his spot in the rotation going forward is secure. I like Criner a whole lot and I think he flat outplays DHB. The new REGGIME will play no favorites. Maybe it will help DHB in the long run.
I’ll also acknowledge that DHB has improved a whole lot since his rookie year. He’s gotten better as the season went on last year. He’s a good weapon to have regardless. But only so many balls to go around.
July 24th, 2012 at 6:21 am
King Darrius will rule & reign in 2012!
Year #3 is when most NFL players who were raw or unproven out of college but had great measurables start to “get it”
Week 4 against the Patriots was a turning point for Heyward-Bey and he hasn’t looked back since.
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The kids confidence went to another level last year. I expect it to continue to grow.
He’s going to drop some balls folks. We all know that.
But he is going to catch a lot of balls and do A LOT with it when he does!
July 24th, 2012 at 6:23 am
Murphy got cut due to his inability to stay healthy
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@Tx
if thats the case, I understand Reggie’s reasoning.
plus if he was “disgruntled” & “wanted out” then you can’t have guys like that in the locker room
if we’re talking TALENT or PRODUCTION alone, Murphy was a lock to make the 2012 53-man roster imo
July 24th, 2012 at 6:23 am
I’m not ready to say Criner & Streater are both better than Murphy based upon non-contact OTA’s in which Lou wasn’t even able to participate due to a hammy strain!
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Well, let’s give Murph a pass for the strained …
How about explaining the alligator arms post shoulder injury?
July 24th, 2012 at 6:23 am
you cats are delusional if you think guys like McGee & Calhoun can produce like #18
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McGee will get it done!
July 24th, 2012 at 6:24 am
I have flip-flopped on DHB so often, I have decided to pack it on on predictions for him.
I loved the draft pick when most hated it, supported him through most of the first year (I came on here and highlighted his key block in his 2nd game springing D-Mac for the GW TD in KC), started to turn on him and ridicule him after his 2nd year……and so on.
I’ll take my backwards K and sit down, lol.
July 24th, 2012 at 6:25 am
if we’re talking TALENT or PRODUCTION alone, Murphy was a lock to make the 2012 53-man roster imo
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far from being a LOCK. Now you are completely DISCOUNTING any of the rookies in the OTA’s. Remember that REGGIE said there would be new faces taking the spots of veterans. It was a promise, based on what he saw in OTA’s. No more scholarships!
July 24th, 2012 at 6:25 am
Ok, G123.
I thought you were saying dump him for a 7th rd pick.
July 24th, 2012 at 6:27 am
Sorry about that. No, I meant he could be dropped from the starting rotation. Not dumped for a 7th rounder.
My bad. Apologies to DHB fans out there.
DHB give us the ability to be “multiple” on offense.
July 24th, 2012 at 6:30 am
I think DHB did the “smart” thing and pled NO CONTEST. That will go a long way to establishing mitigating circumstances when King Goodell reviews his file. He should avoid any suspension. Good on him. Now he needs to keep his nose clean from here on out.
July 24th, 2012 at 6:32 am
I don’t think we should dump Pryor just yet, thought I would poke RR in the ribs to start the morning.
I am very eager to see him play this preseason.
However, I watch guys like Matty Ice, who hasn’t really gotten any better in his 4th year from his rookie year, and don’t buy into this wait until his 3rd year notion.
Cam, Tebow, hell even Yates last year, played pretty damn well by their 7th or 8th starts.
If you got to wait 3 years, then it probably isn’t worth the wait.
July 24th, 2012 at 6:32 am
Now you are completely DISCOUNTING any of the rookies in the OTA’s.
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@G123
when I re-posted tweets if Tyvon Branch getting beat for 6 by Heyward-Bey & McFadden breaking Branch’s ankles on a screen pass and then bursting out into the open field … you guys didn’t make too much of it, saying OTA’s were basically a “glorified passing camp”
same thing when Ausberry roasted McClain in coverage.
but oh, now when it benefits your argument , OTA’s can be useful tools for player evaluation, eh?
LOL!!
July 24th, 2012 at 6:33 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 6:23 am
Murphy got cut due to his inability to stay healthy
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@Tx
if thats the case, I understand Reggie’s reasoning.
plus if he was “disgruntled” & “wanted out” then you can’t have guys like that in the locker room
if we’re talking TALENT or PRODUCTION alone, Murphy was a lock to make the 2012 53-man roster imo
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I hear that RR, also since he didn’t participate in OTA’s due to injury, that surely stood out to Reg. I think RM found Murph’s replacement on ST and doesn’t like the health issues he brings.
July 24th, 2012 at 6:34 am
DHB kinda reminds me of Huff in a way. Guys who will never bring the return on investment of their top ten draft pick status, but still will be effective players with the right coaching and motivation.
Slo reminds me of Jamarcus. Outright bust, swing and a miss. Accept it and move one.
July 24th, 2012 at 6:34 am
In Matt Leinart’s last 8 games he played in, he has managed to incur 3 season-ending injuries.
That’s worse than Bruce!!!!
Pryor better be ready to go if needed.
July 24th, 2012 at 6:35 am
JFB
Don’t forget Dalton played well last year, that kid is the real deal. I’m used to seeing the Bungels do dumb schit, but Dalton was a great choice imo.
July 24th, 2012 at 6:36 am
On paper, it looks like a reasonable move considering Murphy will be a Free Agent after the season and if he had a good year, he might price himself out of the Raiders budget and leave for nothing and we do have some promising young kids waiting in the wings.
But, if injuries hit our top 3 guys (DHB, Moore and Ford) and Criner and Streater/McGee/Calhoun fail to step up, it won’t be pretty.
Murphy has proven he can get open and make plays in the NFL level, those young kids have not.
Like I said at the top, reasonable move on paper… but one that could come back to haunt us if we lose a couple of guys for an extended period of time.
Good luck to Murphy in Carolina, I hope the trade is performance based so if Lou produces we get something better than a 7th round pick for him.
July 24th, 2012 at 6:37 am
I hope we see a lot of Terrell Pryor this preseason. We really don’t know what we have, do we? So, not yet ready to claim he sucks, but he better come with some proof he can play. Last Al Davis player and all that doesn’t mean squat if can’t fulfill his promise. Learning curve is steep and swift.
July 24th, 2012 at 6:38 am
Murphy stood out as a WR in 2 games last year.
Packers (Week 14)
Chargers (Week 17)
also had a rushing TD on a reverse against Detroit
Again, not the worst player in the world to have as a 4th-6th WR
he wasn’t even 100% healthy until after the bye week last season.
first catch came against the Donkeys in Week 9
July 24th, 2012 at 6:39 am
We all should be rooting for Murph to be a probowler in Carolina. Get us a better pick and I honestly hold no ill will for him.
July 24th, 2012 at 6:41 am
We all should be rooting for Murph to be a probowler in Carolina. Get us a better pick and I honestly hold no ill will for him.
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@G123
what is the MAX compensation we can get for him ??
I thought it was a 7th rounder?
July 24th, 2012 at 6:42 am
I heard it could be as high as a 4th rounder. But that is a dated report I think.
July 24th, 2012 at 6:44 am
Trust me, I hope for the best for Juron Criner but it’s way too early to project him as an NFL player, let alone a star as some already think of him.
July 24th, 2012 at 6:46 am
Marley #187 = money !!
July 24th, 2012 at 6:47 am
Again, not the worst player in the world to have as a 4th-6th WR
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@RRS,
Do you think it’s fair to LM to bury him on the depth chart after leading the club in receptions for two years? Do you think maybe LM would want more? Not that he’s ENTITLED to more. Some guys you have to let free, and it’s not in anyones interest to stockpile talent to rot on the bench. He gets a new start to prove himself. I’m sure he feels he got a bad shake from the Raiders, well now here’s his chance. Hope he blows up in Carolina. It was time for our team to move on with the good young hungry talent we have. CP3 will make the most of the talent assembled.
July 24th, 2012 at 6:49 am
Bob Marley Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 6:44 am
Trust me, I hope for the best for Juron Criner but it’s way too early to project him as an NFL player, let alone a star as some already think of him.
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RM wouldn’t have made this move if he didn’t have a really good feel for Criner and the other rookies. I think he’s far closer to the situation than any of us. If he’s willing to take the bold move of moving extra talent to improve the club, I think he’s got the best vantage point. I trust RM.
July 24th, 2012 at 7:01 am
Bob Marley Says:
Trust me, I hope for the best for Juron Criner but it’s way too early to project him as an NFL player, let alone a star as some already think of him.
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RM wouldn’t have made this move if he didn’t have a really good feel for Criner and the other rookies. I think he’s far closer to the situation than any of us. If he’s willing to take the bold move of moving extra talent to improve the club, I think he’s got the best vantage point. I trust RM.
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We have to trust RM, obviously he runs the team and knows what he has, but every GM makes moves he regrets later and that’s fine, nobody is right all the time, hopefully this won’t be the case.
The thing is, you never know what you have after some OTA no-contact allowed practices and that includes Juron Criner and Rod Streater, I would have waited to see how they did in training camp before trading Murphy.
July 24th, 2012 at 7:02 am
Then again, maybe the Panthers approached Reggie and the time to make the move was now since they could have looked elsewhere if we turned them down.
July 24th, 2012 at 7:04 am
It’s done anyways, the pressure is now on Criner and the kids to justify the move and we’re all rooting for them.
Later.
July 24th, 2012 at 7:05 am
Panthers were busy yesterday, trading former first rounder OL Jeff Otah to the Jets for another conditional 7th rounder. So Murphy = Otah? Or some rough approximation.
July 24th, 2012 at 7:11 am
Jeff Otah is a monster run-blocking RT who can’t stay healthy, at least that’s how I remember him.
Now if Bruce Campbell turns out to be their starting RT and excells at it and Murphy turns into a strong WR-2 next to Steve Smith….then we got hosed.
Hopefully Goodson lessens the blow and that 7th rounder turns into a starter.
Far-fetched, I know, but it could happen, certainly hoping it won’t!.
July 24th, 2012 at 7:12 am
Ok bye now.
July 24th, 2012 at 7:14 am
Beast Campbell develop into a starting RT? I guess the Panthers think so. Maybe they looked at the combine tape and saw something. I don’t think we’ll get hosed in either deal with Carolina.
I sure like our trade buddy relationship with Carolina a whole lot better than our trade buddy relationship with New England!
July 24th, 2012 at 7:19 am
I am pretty sure the conditions of the trade would be something like this,
If he starts more than 8 games 4th round pick.
If he makes the roster but is not a starter 5th round pick.
If he does not make the team we will get a 7th.
Of course this is speculation on my part but I am guessing there might be similar parameters to the deal.
July 24th, 2012 at 7:25 am
for the record, I ALWAYS wanted Bruce Campbell to get a shot at Tackle (not guard).
Bergstrom as well … it’s their natural friggin positions!
July 24th, 2012 at 7:26 am
I said he’s not a guard. I even stated we should use him in short yardage as a Fullback
July 24th, 2012 at 7:28 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
July 23rd, 2012 at 9:14 pm
“(Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT)
If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.
So its ok to rape a woman if you have 50 pieces of gold.
No thanks I will throw this book in the trash and learn how to be a good human from another book.
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Not a christian and not trying to defend but have to say that christianity has evolved along with civilization. Laws such as those are not enforced or even taken seriously.
Just recently in Morocco an islamic judge ordered a 16 year old girl to marry the man who was guilty of raping her. The girl commited suicide rather than comply.
July 24th, 2012 at 7:29 am
Won’t miss Murphy.
He did alright, led receivers when we weren’t doing so well in passing.
We have better people now.
That’s the way it goes.
Nice to see this legacy thing go out the window.
Got to put the best team out there.
July 24th, 2012 at 7:31 am
My wife just informed me last night that she will be going off the pill in a few weeks, so we can try for Baby Rockstar #2
woohoo!
July 24th, 2012 at 7:35 am
Go Rock Star!!!!
Get your groove on!!
July 24th, 2012 at 7:35 am
Happy for you Rockstar.
My youngest just graduated HS and is off to college.
Family is the best thing that’s ever happened to me.
July 24th, 2012 at 7:35 am
Oldschoolraider
Its too early for a religious debate.
I am staying away from it today sorry.
July 24th, 2012 at 7:40 am
Murphy will be missed but we have so many other weapons I don’t think we”ll even flinch, I mean we got a rb and fb that are practically wr. It is a good thing to have too much talent I remember 3 yrs ago we were starving for wr talent now we got dhb Ford dmore and Criner , speed , size , gd hands, and no bicccctch azz divas. I like it.
July 24th, 2012 at 7:42 am
I think Murph will shine now that he gets to play catch with a bigger/better Tebow!
July 24th, 2012 at 7:50 am
Some random observations about today’s blog banter:
McLame in the Pro Bowl ?
They’d have to rename it the Slo Bowl.
TP, (who many here are already writing off, without even seeing him play a single NFL down) has a better chance of making a Pro Bowl than Ronaldo McLame. Not because TP is necessarily going to be any good – but because Ronaldo is a turd.
Until DHB can make over the shoulder grabs, he will not be a classical deep threat.
He will however, still be a threat to reckon with – due to his ability to break a tackle and take it the distance. His size and speed alone makes big plays possible.
Trading a player for a 7th round pick is tantamount to releasing him. Murphy clearly wasn’t part of the Raids plans moving forward.
Criner was drafted, and Streater and others signed, with the intention of making it possible to move past LM.
If LM was disgruntled with the Raids, it’s only because he saw the writing on the wall.
I’m hoping for great things from Reggie. But all this talk about what a ‘great move’ it was to get a 7th for LM is kind of ridiculous.
Reggie might prove himself to be a great GM and an astute judge of talent. But even a miracle worker isn’t going to consistently find players in the 7th round that make a huge difference.
Let’s not put Reggie on a pedestal just yet and annoint him as a great GM.
It’s OK to be optimistic and hope for great things, but the truth is it’ll take a few years to get a better gauge of Reggie’s worth.
Flame away.
July 24th, 2012 at 7:55 am
McKenzie era already paying off. No scholarships. No more protecting players that are only stars to Al Davis and the fans. McKenzie wants the guys that would start with the Packers, Patriots, Giants, etc. Happy Trails, Louis. Great catch in MNF opener in ‘09, but you’ve got to do it routinely, bud.
July 24th, 2012 at 8:01 am
I thought Murphy would be worth at least a 5th; getting only a 7th is a disappointment
July 24th, 2012 at 8:09 am
Strange trade.. Murph worked hard, produced pretty well, and came cheap.. We basicly cut him..
July 24th, 2012 at 8:11 am
It’s a conditional pick tied to performance. Worst we can do is a 7th. He wasn’t going to make the roster anyhow.
July 24th, 2012 at 8:12 am
Not sure why everyone is so sure its a 7th round pick but I thought it was a conditional pick.
Anyone know for a fact exactly what it is?
July 24th, 2012 at 8:17 am
Strange trade.. Murph worked hard, produced pretty well, and came cheap.. We basicly cut him..
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It was now or later I think. He had some sort of injury that kept him out during OTA’s. I think some of the rookies are gonna make a strong push anyway. I’m locking Criner in right now. Plus Streater doing well and McGee’s name getting dropped as well as Calhoun. WR spots getting crowded.
July 24th, 2012 at 8:18 am
New era, save marks cash… We might not go over the cap ever again..
July 24th, 2012 at 8:20 am
@221…It IS a conditional pick, but I think it was undisclosed at the time and read as a “Unconditional” pick. Typo I guess.
July 24th, 2012 at 8:21 am
We only have 6 wrs. Theres 90 roster spots.. We needs a couple camp bodies before they all go down with hammy & groin pulls.
July 24th, 2012 at 8:24 am
That is true, Mark!
July 24th, 2012 at 8:33 am
No Mas Diamante Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 8:11 am
It’s a conditional pick tied to performance. Worst we can do is a 7th. He wasn’t going to make the roster anyhow.
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I thought it was a conditional pick based on whether he makes their roster? Best we can do is 7th round based on what I’ve read. Worst is nothing if he gets cut, which shouldn’t happen.
July 24th, 2012 at 8:35 am
Marks Hair Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 8:09 am
Strange trade.. Murph worked hard, produced pretty well, and came cheap.. We basicly cut him..
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Last year of contract and he just didn’t figure significantly into the team’s plans. Which also explains why we got so little for him. I’m sure teams knew he was on the way out…
July 24th, 2012 at 8:35 am
226. Thats what I read too. Im not sure whos got the right source..
July 24th, 2012 at 8:39 am
SR Raider Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 8:01 am
I thought Murphy would be worth at least a 5th; getting only a 7th is a disappointment
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He was being phased out. Also, he was a shell of himself after the big hit. Seems to have lost something emotionally too based on his comments. Teams knew all of this. They have film.
July 24th, 2012 at 8:40 am
It looks like a money saving move to me. We dont have too many wrs. We dont need the cap space.. Hes a good teamate.. We got nothing back in the trade…
July 24th, 2012 at 8:42 am
Moneyball. No more free soda..
July 24th, 2012 at 8:42 am
Marks Hair Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 8:40 am
It looks like a money saving move to me. We dont have too many wrs. We dont need the cap space.. Hes a good teamate.. We got nothing back in the trade…
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Think so? Just for a little over a mill? Boy, if so, times sure have changed…
July 24th, 2012 at 8:46 am
I just think they were going to cut him. This gives him a chance to keep playing, and we might get a little in return.
July 24th, 2012 at 8:51 am
232. Yup. Unless we have a few fa’s in mind or we really wanna cut romac..
July 24th, 2012 at 8:53 am
Better watch your back condo
July 24th, 2012 at 8:53 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
I don’t think we should dump Pryor just yet, thought I would poke RR in the ribs to start the morning.
I am very eager to see him play this preseason.
In Matt Leinart’s last 8 games he played in, he has managed to incur 3 season-ending injuries.
That’s worse than Bruce!!!!
Pryor better be ready to go if needed.
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If TP doesn’t get tons of playing time in the pre-season the staff needs to get their heads examined.
As JFB points out, Matty Lice’s history indicates he’s an injury waiting to happen.
More importantly, even if he manages to stay healthy, Lice’s helium balls preclude him from ever being anything more than a backup QB – and a lousy one at that. IMO, the only reason he’s even on an NFL roster is due to his college career and lofty draft status. The guy is a waste of time and I wish the Raids hadn’t signed him, despite his familiarity with Knapp.
Could be that TP doesn’t have a future as an NFL QB. But the only way to find out is to play him. That’s what the pre-season is for.
How TP performs in the pre-season could very well determine the Raid’s future draft strategy. Even if Palmer has 3 or more productive years left, the time to be looking for his replacement is now, especially if the determination is made that TP can’t be the man.
Assessing TP’s future as a QB and getting him ready to back up CP, should be a priority to Reggie and the staff in the next few weeks.
Matt Lice should be regarded as an overpaid commodity that can easily be discarded if Pryor shows any ability whatsover.
July 24th, 2012 at 8:59 am
@237……SNAP…..Exactly right.
July 24th, 2012 at 9:02 am
Good points but one I would like to make about Murphy is this. Who knows the condition of a player better than the team he plays on? Nobody!
Murphy has injuries and has not been producing. Does not even seem to be in the flow of games. So Reggie trades the guy why he still has some value and can’t hurt the team. In addition, if Murphy plays great
we get a pick of even more value.
So no we don’t have to “annoint” Reggie but can’t we give the guy credit for making a possible good move?
He is trying to give us future options and retain what we have. I call that good managment looking towards the future.
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215.RAIDERMAN99 Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 7:50 am
Some random observations about today’s blog banter:
McLame in the Pro Bowl ?
They’d have to rename it the Slo Bowl.
TP, (who many here are already writing off, without even seeing him play a single NFL down) has a better chance of making a Pro Bowl than Ronaldo McLame. Not because TP is necessarily going to be any good – but because Ronaldo is a turd.
Until DHB can make over the shoulder grabs, he will not be a classical deep threat.
He will however, still be a threat to reckon with – due to his ability to break a tackle and take it the distance. His size and speed alone makes big plays possible.
Trading a player for a 7th round pick is tantamount to releasing him. Murphy clearly wasn’t part of the Raids plans moving forward.
Criner was drafted, and Streater and others signed, with the intention of making it possible to move past LM.
If LM was disgruntled with the Raids, it’s only because he saw the writing on the wall.
I’m hoping for great things from Reggie. But all this talk about what a ‘great move’ it was to get a 7th for LM is kind of ridiculous.
Reggie might prove himself to be a great GM and an astute judge of talent. But even a miracle worker isn’t going to consistently find players in the 7th round that make a huge difference.
Let’s not put Reggie on a pedestal just yet and annoint him as a great GM.
It’s OK to be optimistic and hope for great things, but the truth is it’ll take a few years to get a better gauge of Reggie’s worth.
Flame away.
July 24th, 2012 at 9:04 am
219.No Mas Diamante Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 8:11 am
It’s a conditional pick tied to performance. Worst we can do is a 7th. He wasn’t going to make the roster anyhow.
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Agreed! I think it was a good move. I have nothing aginst Murphy but there a 3 of guys that can do what he does and we need more cash to fill other positions in the next three years.
July 24th, 2012 at 9:05 am
Marks hair Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 8:53 am
Better watch your back condo
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Before he washes yours…
July 24th, 2012 at 9:07 am
Re: salary cap space…
You guys realize that any money we save under the cap can be added to next year’s cap, right?
We could be saving space to make a bigger future move.
July 24th, 2012 at 9:10 am
Louis Murphy last year…
11 games…15 receptions…241 yards.
A little over 20 receiving yards per game.
Good grief. Another scholarship player who’s only a star between the ears of homers.
July 24th, 2012 at 9:12 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 9:07 am
Re: salary cap space…
You guys realize that any money we save under the cap can be added to next year’s cap, right?
We could be saving space to make a bigger future move.
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Bo dropping knowledge. Good point, BSJ.
July 24th, 2012 at 9:12 am
McKenzie wants the kinds of players that could start in Green Bay, NYG, New England, etc. Louis Murphy might hold the clip board on those teams, if he’s not on the practice squad.
July 24th, 2012 at 9:15 am
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
If TP doesn’t get tons of playing time in the pre-season the staff needs to get their heads examined.
As JFB points out, Matty Lice’s history indicates he’s an injury waiting to happen.
More importantly, even if he manages to stay healthy, Lice’s helium balls preclude him from ever being anything more than a backup QB – and a lousy one at that. IMO, the only reason he’s even on an NFL roster is due to his college career and lofty draft status. The guy is a waste of time and I wish the Raids hadn’t signed him, despite his familiarity with Knapp.
Could be that TP doesn’t have a future as an NFL QB. But the only way to find out is to play him. That’s what the pre-season is for.
How TP performs in the pre-season could very well determine the Raid’s future draft strategy. Even if Palmer has 3 or more productive years left, the time to be looking for his replacement is now, especially if the determination is made that TP can’t be the man.
Assessing TP’s future as a QB and getting him ready to back up CP, should be a priority to Reggie and the staff in the next few weeks.
Matt Lice should be regarded as an overpaid commodity that can easily be discarded if Pryor shows any ability whatsover.
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Who said anything about Leinart being anything other than a backup QB? What does it matter that he has a noodle arm? Look at his one start when he got hurt. He was 10/13 with a TD and zero picks, QB rating of 110. Injuries are a concern, but as long as he’s sitting on the bench, that doesn’t become as big a deal. Why is his lofty draft status is reason to hate him now? Instead, take him for what he is: A disposable (I can agree with this) low rent (not overpaid, so I disagree) system QB brought in to help both CP3 and TP learn Knapp’s system. From there, he can watch from the sidelines and be brought in if Palmer goes down for a quarter or two. Maybe even a game or two as a game manager QB. Nothing more than that. If CP3 goes down, season over imo. As for TP, I agree he needs to get a ton of work in the preseason to see what we have. Just think that your Matty Lice bias is clouding your judgment of what he brings to the table. Probably won’t be on the roster next year anyway. He’s a rental. Nothing more.
July 24th, 2012 at 9:16 am
You watch the better teams in the league, your Giants, Patriots, Packers, Steelers, Saints, etc, notice you rarely see dropped passes. The receivers catch almost everything thrown their way, even no. 2 and 3 receivers. So….yeah, that. That’s what Reggie wants. Not those “great Raidahs” of the modern era that had like one big game two years ago, and for that had become anointed as royalty amongst Raider fans.
July 24th, 2012 at 9:23 am
I think Derek Carrier will be better than Criner.
He is a local boy from Beloit College…BSJ’s neighborhood.
July 24th, 2012 at 9:23 am
You guys realize that any money we save under the cap can be added to next year’s cap, right?
We could be saving space to make a bigger future move.
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Wasn’t aware of that.
So if we’re 5 million under the cap in 2012, we can be 5 million over in 2013 ?
I thought it was a ‘use it or lose it’ type of deal.
A prudent GM, convinced that his team had no real chance in a current year, would have to seriously consider purging contracts and writing off a season to build for the future.
Kind of like Jimmy Johnson not playing guys he got from the Vikings in exchange for Herschel Walker. He admitted sitting them even though they were better than the guys he played. Jimmy wrote off Aikman’s first year to get better draft position and more conditional picks. Worked out pretty well too, didn’t it ? I was surprised when I heard him openly confess to that.
July 24th, 2012 at 9:24 am
I think some of the ‘great Raidahs’ were annointed for showing up big in big games. Ask the Patriots of last year about that. I’m sure they’d rather have more pedestrian stats during the year and have won the SuperBowl than the other way around where their receivers dropped the ball in the big show.
July 24th, 2012 at 9:24 am
Has JR been here lately? Gotta thank him for introducing Sean!
Of course it was probably MR himself, pleading for us to find his identity and abuse him.
July 24th, 2012 at 9:26 am
Whut up Beyotches!!!!!
Man, I haven’t been on in 4 days – feels like a lifetime.
The freefall tandem skydive in Lompoc on Friday was a blast and yes, I jumped reppin’ the S & B in my long sleeve Raider tee.
3 years probation for DHB? Standard stuff. Don’t get busted again dumbass. Call the toll free number next time. The league does everything for you dude’s so this stuff doesn’t happen – CALL THE NUMBER!
July 24th, 2012 at 9:26 am
# Bob Marley Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 7:11 am
Jeff Otah is a monster run-blocking RT who can’t stay healthy, at least that’s how I remember him.
Now if Bruce Campbell turns out to be their starting RT and excells at it and Murphy turns into a strong WR-2 next to Steve Smith….then we got hosed.
Hopefully Goodson lessens the blow and that 7th rounder turns into a starter.
Far-fetched, I know, but it could happen, certainly hoping it won’t!.
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Well Said. Campbell and Murphy are two types of players that Reggie McKenzie is diametrically opposed. Campbell was a work out freak that was not a football player, and Murphy was a football player, when he wanted to be. Those types of guys are not the types Reg wants on his roster.
July 24th, 2012 at 9:30 am
Who said anything about Leinart being anything other than a backup QB? What does it matter that he has a noodle arm? Look at his one start when he got hurt. He was 10/13 with a TD and zero picks, QB rating of 110.
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Yes, but he also was averaging something like 5 yards per attempt which means he was just dumping it to backs, TE’s and receivers just off the LOS. And what that means is any defensive coordinator in the league is going to play tighter and tighter until they strangle him like an anaconda.
July 24th, 2012 at 9:32 am
Need any help?
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RaiderRockstar Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 7:31 am
My wife just informed me last night that she will be going off the pill in a few weeks, so we can try for Baby Rockstar #2
woohoo!
July 24th, 2012 at 9:33 am
Yes, no doubt that YPA was terrible for Leinart. But in a pinch, a QB rating of 110 will get the job done. Especially leaning on McFadden both running and dump off passes. Not ideal to have Leinart in there, but much better than Kyle Boller.
July 24th, 2012 at 9:41 am
guest123 Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 9:33 am
Yes, no doubt that YPA was terrible for Leinart. But in a pinch, a QB rating of 110 will get the job done.
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Actually it probably won’t. In the modern NFL you have to air it out to stretch defenses to open up underneath lanes for both the pass and the run. Leinert has never been able to prove he can do that consistently. YPA is one of my favorite statistics for Q’s. It is a very good indicator that a Q is using the whole field not just dumping it off which is not going to win games. Rodgers, Brady and Schaub were one, two and three in the league in that stat. All of which were in the playoffs (Schaub being injured). Next, came Eli and not surprisingly for me at least, Eli is tied with Carson Palmer. And they are Ahead of Brees, Romo and Rivers. Pretty good company right there.
July 24th, 2012 at 9:44 am
YPA is one of my favorite statistics for Q’s. It is a very good indicator that a Q is using the whole field not just dumping it off which is not going to win games
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Nice to have improved significantly in that area from our last starting QB to our current one.
July 24th, 2012 at 9:45 am
To be clearer, I was saying it would get the job done in a pinch for a game or two, while an ailing CP recovers from a minor injury. It would not get it done if CP3 goes down for the season. Leinart isn’t starting NFL quality, and probably won’t ever be. He’s wasted his opportunity already and must be content to workout and train hard just to hold a clipboard on Sundays. I doubt anyone will compare him to Rogers, Brady, Schaub, Eli, or Carson. He’s just not that good.
July 24th, 2012 at 9:46 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 9:23 am
I think Derek Carrier will be better than Criner.
He is a local boy from Beloit College…BSJ’s neighborhood.
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Must have some good Hallucinogenic’s in your neighborhood….
July 24th, 2012 at 9:49 am
Leinart brings 6 years of NFL experience and knowledge of Knapp’s playbook from last years Texan team. He’s a working conduit on the field for CP3 and TP to transition into the new offensive system. And a cheap insurance policy that is easily thrown away when no longer needed. Smart move by the REGGIE. Always a couple steps ahead of everybody.
July 24th, 2012 at 9:50 am
Thec best do some research on Carrier…
July 24th, 2012 at 9:51 am
McLame in the Pro Bowl ?
They’d have to rename it the Slo Bowl.
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McCheese to the pro bowl??? HAHAHAHAHA…Really?
July 24th, 2012 at 9:52 am
The only thing I heard about Carrier was Cork mentioned in response to an inquiry, thought he produced nothing special or noteworthy to report about. Streater and Criner were making splash plays in OTA’s and Carrier did nothing good or bad.
July 24th, 2012 at 9:52 am
And although unrelated to my scouting, the pharmacopia around my block is sublime…
July 24th, 2012 at 9:53 am
LMAO, Corkran is now the expert at assessing talent?
July 24th, 2012 at 9:54 am
Bo, I have ood however, he is notbetter than JCRINER.
We have a log jam at WR, Carrier will make the PS.
July 24th, 2012 at 9:54 am
Derek Carrier will be an asset on our Practice Squad.
July 24th, 2012 at 9:55 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 9:52 am
And although unrelated to my scouting, the pharmacopia around my block is sublime…
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA…OK Bruh…
July 24th, 2012 at 9:55 am
It baffles me how McClain still seems to have a lot of support from the Nation. Why? Is there any good reason. I can’t wait till this turd is an ex-Raider. Keep him wearing the all silver helmet, he don’t deserve the Raider Shield.
July 24th, 2012 at 9:59 am
Marks hair Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 8:21 am
We only have 6 wrs. Theres 90 roster spots.. We needs a couple camp bodies before they all go down with hammy & groin pulls.
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We actually have 11 WR’s on the roster…We will keep 6.
July 24th, 2012 at 10:00 am
We have 87 with 3 open roster spots.
And we have $6M to $7M in cap space.
Something’s gotta give!
July 24th, 2012 at 10:02 am
This is how it will shake out:
DHB
Moore
Ford
Criner
Streater
Calhoun/McGee
July 24th, 2012 at 10:03 am
He still gets a lot of money to hold that clipboard.
July 24th, 2012 at 10:03 am
If TP doesn’t get tons of playing time in the pre-season the staff needs to get their heads examined.
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He should get the most reps. Need to see him play at least 2 qtrs a game. This will help the org determine if we need to draft franchise next year in the first rd.
I do beleive he will be successful.
July 24th, 2012 at 10:04 am
We’re loaded at WR, beating a dead horse.
We need quality TE’s who can run, catch, block. NFL proven vets. Hope we get one soon.
July 24th, 2012 at 10:06 am
What does it matter that he has a noodle arm?
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Matters to me.
Apparently, we have a different opinion on the importance of arm strength.
I’m not saying that you have to possess a bazooka to be successful in the NFL, but I am saying you can’t have a pea shooter like ML and get it done.
If you have enough intangibles you can overcome not having a powerful arm. Gannon did that.
But even a Gannon could not overcome the handicap of having an arm as weak as Leinart’s.
Maybe I’m overstating how weak Lice’s arm is, but I don’t think that’s the case.
We’ll find out soon enough. I expect to see some pathetic helium balls from ML.
Honestly, I don’t believe ML is even a viable back up, and philosophically I would prefer not keeping guys around that aren’t capable of potentially developing into a starter.
July 24th, 2012 at 10:06 am
We have 87 with 3 open roster spots.
And we have $6M to $7M in cap space.
Something’s gotta give!
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It will. I have a feeling Reggie isn’t done wheelin’ and dealin’ yet. I don’t know what he’s got up his sleeve, but when it comes to my team…. “In Reggie I trust.” I’m not going to worry at all, which is weird. I have total confidence in our management for a change.
July 24th, 2012 at 10:06 am
TP has to earn his reps in preseason though. Or else he can put his health and the health of others in jeapardy. If he can’t earn the reps, the writing will be on the wall soon and RM will convert or try to trade. I don’t see Pryor going into another redshirt year as ememergency clipboard QB. He needs to show some promise and right now!
July 24th, 2012 at 10:08 am
We dont NEED anything that is available right now.
Period.
July 24th, 2012 at 10:10 am
Honestly, I don’t believe ML is even a viable back up, and philosophically I would prefer not keeping guys around that aren’t capable of potentially developing into a starter.
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Well look no further philosphically than our own Reggie McKenzie. Notice that they don’t care about having robust backup QB’s on that team, Manning in Indy had nothing behind him. Brady. Roethlisberger, Eli, Rivers, on and on. Who has the luxury of carrying backup QB’s who could one day be starters? It’s just too much of a luxury with what viable QB’s are paid these days.
July 24th, 2012 at 10:12 am
With very few exceptions, QB’s either ride the short learning curve and prove themselves as viable NFL QB’s or they are cut and end up bouncing all over the league as journeyman backups. It’s the nature of the business. The league demands elite QB play. Mediocre play no longer provides any job security. It’s usually a ticket out of town, not unlike Soup.
July 24th, 2012 at 10:18 am
Honestly, I don’t believe ML is even a viable back up, and philosophically I would prefer not keeping guys around that aren’t capable of potentially developing into a starter.
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Well look no further philosphically than our own Reggie McKenzie. Notice that they don’t care about having robust backup QB’s on that team, Manning in Indy had nothing behind him. Brady. Roethlisberger, Eli, Rivers, on and on. Who has the luxury of carrying backup QB’s who could one day be starters? It’s just too much of a luxury with what viable QB’s are paid these days.
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Packers? Matt Hassleback, Aaron Rogers and Matt Flynn…
July 24th, 2012 at 10:18 am
GB had a good backup.
July 24th, 2012 at 10:19 am
Leinart: Don’t personally like him or ever will. But he’s at least shown he can be competent enough to get the ball to the playmakers and step aside. One year rental I’m co-signed with as a transition player from the old regime to the new one.
Pryor: Don’t know a thing about him as an NFL QB. His passes might be as awful as Jamarcus, or he may be greased lightning like Michael Vick. Too early to judge him one way or the other. I hope he pans out, if nothing else to have trade value. But I’ll set my expecations low and hope to be pleasantly surprised.
July 24th, 2012 at 10:20 am
Matt Flynn is overrated and now is overpaid. Seattle has a bunch of QB’s now, which means they have none.
July 24th, 2012 at 10:22 am
guest123 Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 10:06 am
TP has to earn his reps in preseason though.
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I want to see him get all the reps he can. We need to know if he is going to be a viable option for the NATION going forward. His play will have future implications on this team.
I would hope he pans out, then we can get a real MLB in the draft, as opposed to a QB.
July 24th, 2012 at 10:24 am
So you think ML is a ‘robust’ backup ?
I think he’s just a bust.
I agree with the premise that having a good backup is essential. That’s especially true if you’re battling for a playoff slot and your starter is going down for 2,3 or 4 games.
I can see your case for Leinart in that situation, even though I strongly disagree that he could win games in Palmer’s absence.
Frankly, I don’t think Lice can win games, even as a limited backup.
I’d be more comfortable going with the unknown Pryor and hoping his legs can win games at this point than watching Lienart’s helium balls bring victory to the opposition.
Good posting though, even if we disagree.
July 24th, 2012 at 10:25 am
Word in Beloit is Carrier can longsnap…
July 24th, 2012 at 10:27 am
Even though it may seem that I’m anti-Pryor, I’m not. I want him to be thrown in there “to the wolves” so to speak to see if he can “sink or swim”. Time to take the training wheels off and get used to live bullets.
I’m so sick of myself and my weak idioms.
lol
July 24th, 2012 at 10:29 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 10:25 am
Word in Beloit is Carrier can longsnap…
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LMAO Adios Condo!
July 24th, 2012 at 10:31 am
What is about Condo that makes BSJ’s blood boil?
Imagine BSJ is a red faced Cap’n Kirk screaming at Ricardo Montalban:
COOOOONDDDDOOOOOO!!!!!!!!
July 24th, 2012 at 10:32 am
Trade Condo for a Weak Idiom!
July 24th, 2012 at 10:34 am
Guest, you are close but it’s more like:
KKKKKAAAAAAAAHHHHHNNNNNNNN…..d’oh!
Kahn and Condo have the same hair too. Disgusting.
July 24th, 2012 at 10:35 am
Matt Leinart is horrible, and a dweeb.
If TP can’t gain momentum on this clown, both on the field and in the lockerroom, by the end of this year, he might be running pass-routes in next years voluntaries.
July 24th, 2012 at 10:35 am
Word in Beloit is Carrier can longsnap…
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show me the tape…
July 24th, 2012 at 10:42 am
Jared Allen stepped in and long-snapped last year in an emergency for Minny, and he had no issues and was flying downfield to try to make a tackle.
I like Condo’s consistancy snapping, but The Reggie can’t be keen on having the highest paid long-snapper in the league.
That just goes against his whole desire to be extremely, extremely efficient, by being a total football dork.
Expect to hear about one of our draft picks ability to long-snap in next years draft.
Print that twice!!
July 24th, 2012 at 10:43 am
Thec:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89P19frQEhA
BTW, at Beloit, Carrier was a TE…
July 24th, 2012 at 10:44 am
I like Condo’s consistancy snapping, but The Reggie can’t be keen on having the highest paid long-snapper in the league.
That just goes against his whole desire to be extremely, extremely efficient, by being a total football dork.
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Vegas is on fire!
Worst parts to Reg have gotta be that Condo is NOT a good tackler downfield and CANNOT play LB at the minimum NFL level.
July 24th, 2012 at 10:47 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 10:43 am
Thec:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89P19frQEhA
BTW, at Beloit, Carrier was a TE…
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I have seen that clip a few times. What do you have on him long snapping?
We have him listed as a WR, maybe he gets switched back to TE?
July 24th, 2012 at 10:47 am
Who was a more consistent longsnapper…Condo or Adam Treu?
It seems to me that the longsnapper should be doing that job while he tries to grow into regular on-the-field player.
Why waste one of 53 spots on a guy who will never develop into even a backup at any position?
July 24th, 2012 at 10:47 am
What do you have on him long snapping?
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My gut or my dreams, or both.
July 24th, 2012 at 10:49 am
The thing i dislike about noodle arms is that they never get the ball to the WR on time. WR’s have to stop, wait, change strides, and make all kinds of adjustments.
CP compliments our speed with his arm. Lionart not so much.
July 24th, 2012 at 10:50 am
Well Condo did help pick a hole in KC to block the kicks supposedly, so maybe we can “develop” him into an assistant special teams coach.
You know, like a Hue Jackson!!
July 24th, 2012 at 10:58 am
We’re all counting on improved coaching and scheming to benefit the Raids in 2012.
IMO, that’s likely to happen, but it is NOT a given.
No matter how you slice it, DA and Tarver aren’t known NFL quantities in their respective positions.
Even if both of them are immensely successful in their freshman campaigns, they’re going to need peak performance from several players if the Raids are to contend.
On offense, Palmer is the key with DMAC being a close second.
On defense, McLame has to show vast improvement – although Ronaldo, in the grand scheme of things, is not nearly as essential as Palmer and DMAC are, Slow’s performance is still crucial.
Gonna suck that if in addition to learning all the terminology, schemes, and nuances of Tarver’s defense the centerpiece of the LB corps has to be tinkered with due to non-performance or suspension.
It’s hard enough implementing a new defensive scheme knowing who is going to be playing and having guys you can count on.
Maybe Seymour can step up and provide some veteran leadership and stability. Losing 10 lbs would seemingly indicate he’s taking this season seriously. Refusing to show up at the non-mandatory OTAs doesn’t.
July 24th, 2012 at 11:02 am
One thing you can say about Carrier is he does has work ethic, not just natural ability. Another low risk smart pick with nothing to lose.
You may be asking how I know he has work ethic. He had a 3.8 and is still the best player on his team. Why not give him a shot @TE or WR.
http://www.foxsportswisconsin.com/05/04/12/Beloits-Carrier-trying-to-make-rare-jump/landing.html?blockID=723326
July 24th, 2012 at 11:03 am
i am thinking playoffs this year.
July 24th, 2012 at 11:06 am
J Hill Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 6:17 am
guest123 Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 6:08 am
Wouldn’t be surprised to see Bey go the way of Murph next year
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55 and DHB “off the team”??????
I just don’t get why you would be “rooting” against our players like that.
DHB is CLEARLY getting better. He can’t even be the 3rd or 4th WR on the team? You’d rather have a 7th rd pick????
SMH
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J Hill Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 6:18 am
Ooops…..did I say that out loud??!!???
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If you didn’t, I would have.
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You want to trade our young (low cost) QB with potential for a 7th RD pick?
SMH!!!!!!
July 24th, 2012 at 11:08 am
TP is very talented (strong arm, size, and speed), he needs time to develop (like most QBs), and you people want to trade him for a 7th?
You People…….. SMH
July 24th, 2012 at 11:09 am
Here is another video on Carrier in the gym at his college showing how to dunk a b-ball. Look at the effortless hops on this guy and physical build. This is the type of athlete you try out. You newver know!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMG8gDHFa3g
July 24th, 2012 at 11:09 am
i am thinking playoffs this year.
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As you should be.
There was a time when Raider fans were thinking Super Bowl every year.
Damn, I miss those days.
Hope I live long enough to see them again.
July 24th, 2012 at 11:14 am
Hope I live long enough to see them again.
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If the empire can hold up long enough you will.
July 24th, 2012 at 11:15 am
Playoffs definitely in the picture this year. One stop vs. San Diego or Detroit and we’d have made it last year. This year’s team will be better
July 24th, 2012 at 11:21 am
310.RAIDERMAN99 Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 11:09 am
i am thinking playoffs this year.
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As you should be.
There was a time when Raider fans were thinking Super Bowl every year.
Damn, I miss those days.
Hope I live long enough to see them again.
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Amen brother, Amen!!!!
There was nothing like the days when the Raiders showed up in that cold silver and black and other teams had fear. We have had the talent just lack of Consistency. To much change, one-two year coaching changes is not good!
July 24th, 2012 at 11:29 am
@CJ Legend 34
Love the Carrier talk…me being a Lake Forest Guy. Happpy anybody from the Division gets a foot in the door.
July 24th, 2012 at 11:29 am
Raiders were disorganized and dysfunctional for so long because everyone was trying to please a quirky GM whose main contribution was slogans like “Just Win Baby”. Al never got on the same page as his coaches, and it confused the hell out of players. The result is history.
Now that Reggie and DA are on the same page, the players will have a single message regarding how to win, which should result in a much stronger team overall
July 24th, 2012 at 11:30 am
One of those days on the blog eh..
July 24th, 2012 at 11:32 am
Is it too early to give our predictions for the Raid record in 2012 ?
Might be interesting to see what the semis here are thinking right now, and if that changes based on what we see in the pre-season.
Reserving the right to change my prediction based on what I see in the pre-season and camp developments, I’m going to predict…
Drum roll, please…
7-9
Sorry fellas, that’s just the way I see things right now.
July 24th, 2012 at 11:35 am
i would say any prediction between 7 and 9 wins is the norm. outside of that and you’re making a statement
July 24th, 2012 at 11:36 am
10-6 we surprise everyone while Denver struggles with a new QB and a new system and the Chargers finish 8-8.
That’s my prediction!
July 24th, 2012 at 11:38 am
Now we are loaded at wr? Thats a stretch dont you think?
July 24th, 2012 at 11:40 am
Im thinking about 8-8. But I like the new direction..
July 24th, 2012 at 11:42 am
Thec Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 11:14 am
Hope I live long enough to see them again.
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If the empire can hold up long enough you will.
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Lol C’mon dollar-bill, don’t fail us now!
July 24th, 2012 at 11:43 am
Both Streater and Criner had very good OTA’s. Moore as a 2nd year player should be better than last year, and DHB is in the part of his career where he is improving the fastest after a good year.
I haven’t seen practices yet, but it is possible that we are now loaded at WR
July 24th, 2012 at 11:43 am
I’ve gone on record with my prediction so I’ll just repost that I think we’ll go 9-7, after a brutal 1-4 start. Playoffs? dunno.
July 24th, 2012 at 11:43 am
Told you the magic were gonna sit on howard till next yr. Real trades happen fast. That was just a song and dance for howard.. They still wanna change his mind.
July 24th, 2012 at 11:45 am
I’ll go with 10-6, based off of a healthy DMAC, fewer penalties and better D.
July 24th, 2012 at 11:47 am
Otas dont have contact… And moore only had 35 catches last yr.. Dhb is our only proven wr. And he’s no probowler.. Better than the last few yrs, probably. Loaded? Better hope we improve alot..
July 24th, 2012 at 11:47 am
Marks hair Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 11:43 am
Told you the magic were gonna sit on howard till next yr. Real trades happen fast. That was just a song and dance for howard.. They still wanna change his mind.
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Real trades like the Carmelo Anthony trade that dragged out through the season?
July 24th, 2012 at 11:48 am
We won all 3 division games on the road and then lose all 3 at home! KC, I will give because we had Kyle friggen Boller, but…
July 24th, 2012 at 11:48 am
I’m still not convinced we have a better D. They got some proving to do. Baseline expectations are based on the same awful D, and then improve the model from direct observation.
As a fan I’ll hope, but won’t believe just because.
July 24th, 2012 at 11:49 am
Another 8-8 season is like kissing your sister,
again.
July 24th, 2012 at 11:51 am
Another 8-8 season is like kissing your sister,
again.
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@G123
you’ve been kissing on your sister the past two offseasons ??
introduce her to RND if she needs some lovin !!
July 24th, 2012 at 11:53 am
The defense won’t fix itself this year. Not enough to make a serious run in the playoffs, but still 10-6 after sweeping the Chargers
July 24th, 2012 at 11:54 am
Now we are loaded at wr? Thats a stretch dont you think?
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@Marks Hair
yes – I do!
DMo17 & Eddie McGee have hamstring injuries
JFORD missed 6 of his last 7 games hurt.
Heyward-Bey was “nicked” early last season.
Criner & Streater are rookies.
July 24th, 2012 at 11:56 am
Green Party members MIA?!
DMAC
ODB
Dave
Mack
July 24th, 2012 at 11:56 am
@Marks Hair
here are the “camp bodies” you asked for earlier …
14 Duke Calhoun
89 Derek Carrier
13 Brandon Carswell
19 Thomas Mayo
16 Eddie McGee
87 Travionte Session
July 24th, 2012 at 11:59 am
Palmer + DDD* = lots of points
Sprinkle in an improved D scheme and I see a 10-6 beauty of a cake in the making,
*DDD = DMAC, DHB, and DMoore
July 24th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
pretty sad when your #4 WR is an undrafted rookie who hasn’t even been tested in live action (training camp & preseason) and if DMo17’s hamstring injury lingers he’s going to get considerable playing time
would Terrell Owens or Plaxico Burress make more than $1.26 million, playing for the vet minimum ?
I don’t think so … I know it’s 800k for a player with 8 years under his belt, like Benson. Not sure what the level is for the old geezers though with perhaps 1 year left in the tank
July 24th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
We need to keep the 3-headed D monster healthy though,
July 24th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
So what’s the difference between what the dude in Aurora did and what the US of A does?
Just axing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxlngJMPXbU
July 24th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
@Banana
McFadden + Jones + Goodson = Kentucky Derby !!
what was Lonyae Miller’s 40 time ??
July 24th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Many things must happen for the Raiders to win this year:
1. Palmer slows down on interceptions
2. DMac plays at least 12 games
3. Young receivers step up and stay healthy
4. New HC and DC aren’t in over their heads
5. DT’s and LB’s learn how to tackle a ball carrier
All of which is possible
July 24th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
I don’t think so … I know it’s 800k for a player with 8 years under his belt, like Benson. Not sure what the level is for the old geezers though with perhaps 1 year left in the tank
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How is benson not in the “old geezer with one year left in the tank” category?
July 24th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
@RND
Prez BO = James Holmes ??
nah, i’m no fan of President JaMarcus either … but I would never make that coparison!
July 24th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
Sometimes the code is tough to break!
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Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 9:24 am
Has JR been here lately? Gotta thank him for introducing Sean!
Of course it was probably MR himself, pleading for us to find his identity and abuse him.
July 24th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
How is benson not in the “old geezer with one year left in the tank” category?
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@G123
Benson turns 30 in December. According to you, RB’s don’t usually start slowing down until 31+
remember Curtis Martin ??
July 24th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
would Terrell Owens or Plaxico Burress make more than $1.26 million, playing for the vet minimum ?
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what’s the point? They offer nothing our top 6 guys bring to the table. Please, we don’t need any more WR’s. We do NEED TE’s.
July 24th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
Lol, RRS. I need to see Taiwan in a real game before I get too excited but I like what I’ve seen so far. Can’t make heads or tails of Goodson at this stage.
July 24th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
remember Curtis Martin ??
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Cedric Benson is no Curtis Martin
July 24th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
If Taiwan hadn’t been hurt last year, he’d have made believers of you all. A healthy Taiwan is going to be an amazing weapon.
July 24th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
Vitamin D3 = Darren/Darrius/Denarius
July 24th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
44s=jsb?
July 24th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
PM PARTY PATROL IN FULL EFFECT
Brahs, I spent the morning eating out this passed out stripper and now I’ve got a hemorrhoid on my tongue
It’s probably just a blister but dang, nothing will cool it off. Been soaking it in a pitcher of top shelf margaritas for the last 2 hours and it’s still burning
When the bizzie wakes up she best start mixing mimosas or next time she’ll get a pinkie in her twinkie
Yo, off to Olive Garden soon for the Taste of Tuscany
Already feeling an epic duece coming on, so this should be quite a show, word
FUNKY FRESH FLAVA
July 24th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
The Raiders and Chiefs were two of the most injured teams last year
July 24th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
You mean Curtis “My favorite” Martin! Whoop!
And he .. could .. go .. all .. the .. way!
July 24th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
@Banana
the future of the Raiders = T3
Terrelle Pryor
Taiwan Jones
Tony Bergstrom
July 24th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
http://rt.com/usa/news/gun-colorado-people-percent-972/
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@ RND
Not a whole lot of difference imo. Interesting read on the spike in local gun sales since the incident happened.
July 24th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
It baffles me how McClain still seems to have a lot of support from the Nation. Why? Is there any good reason. I can’t wait till this turd is an ex-Raider. Keep him wearing the all silver helmet, he don’t deserve the Raider Shield.
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@G123
Raider Nation loved that show ‘America’s Most Wanted’
every other episode you’d see a current or former player of ours… old habits are hard to break
July 24th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
Branch & McClain are already on Reggie’s scholarship program.
We’ll see if Allen & Tarver can milk some production out of them …
July 24th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
Cancers need not apply and RMac ain’t hiring cancers.
TO would simply pop a squat and lay down a huge turd in the middle of the locker room
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guest123 Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
would Terrell Owens or Plaxico Burress make more than $1.26 million, playing for the vet minimum ?
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what’s the point? They offer nothing our top 6 guys bring to the table. Please, we don’t need any more WR’s. We do NEED TE’s.
July 24th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
@G123
read this:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/24/eagles-will-hold-off-on-bringing-in-jeremy-shockey/
your fav purple tight end may no longer be available
July 24th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/24/cardinals-extend-adrian-wilsons-deal-through-2015/
Reggie needs to extend Seabass & Shane !!
July 24th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
SR Raider Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 11:53 am
The defense won’t fix itself this year. Not enough to make a serious run in the playoffs, but still 10-6 after sweeping the Chargers
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Bum’s Son turned the D around in one season down in Houston, so it’s possible. Granted they added guys like Brooks Reed, J.J. Watt and Jonathan Joseph, but they lost Mario Williams for most of the season. With Allen and Tarver, anything is possible.
July 24th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
I don’t even like Shockey. It’s Shiancoe I want. Either that or hope that the Seahags cut ZMiller loose and we pick him up off waivers. Or we can trade for him and give them MM34 straight up.
July 24th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
Rockstar,
If you are predicting 60, 1200 and 6 from DHB next year, we don’t need a whole ton else from our WR unit.
Maybe 8-10 decent games from Ford and Moore, a little contribution from the rooks and we’re set.
July 24th, 2012 at 12:25 pm
Nets sign C.J. Watson away from Bulls to backup D-Will
Utah Jazz sign Randy Foye to one-year deal
Bulls will not match Rockets’ Omer Asik offer sheet
Timberwolves reach three-year deal with Russian guard Shved
Mavericks still want to keep Delonte West on the roster
Ronnie Brewer reaches deal to join New York Knicks
Wizards sign point guard A.J. Price to one-year deal
July 24th, 2012 at 12:25 pm
It’s interesting to me how the scenario of the “crazy, loner, white-dude shootin’ up the place” got played so soon after the cops in Aurora held people against their will for without charges.
I think the world is truly more f’ed up than we once thought.
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TxRaider210 Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
http://rt.com/usa/news/gun-colorado-people-percent-972/
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@ RND
Not a whole lot of difference imo. Interesting read on the spike in local gun sales since the incident happened.
July 24th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
I don’t even like Shockey. It’s Shiancoe I want.
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@G123
apparently you didn’t read the article!!
“We mentioned this morning that the Eagles were showing interest in free agent tight end Jeremy Shockey. But that interest may have already waned.
The Eagles have put their plans to bring Shockey in for a physical on hold, the Philadelphia Inquirer reports.
That may mean today’s visit with another free agent tight end, Visanthe Shiancoe, went well enough that the Eagles are planning to sign him soon, which would eliminate their need for a veteran tight end.”
July 24th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
LOL
July 24th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
I agree that the production we need from our wideouts is limited by the pass attmepts that Palmer gets. Hopefully Palmer is down in the low 500’s in terms of attempts, with maybe 320 completions. That divvies out to a reasonable spread of catches for a diverse and large group of wideouts.
The offense runs literally thru the hands of DMAC. Season rides on his and CP3’s health.
July 24th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
Raidernationdave Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 12:25 pm
It’s interesting to me how the scenario of the “crazy, loner, white-dude shootin’ up the place” got played so soon after the cops in Aurora held people against their will for without charges.
I think the world is truly more f’ed up than we once thought.
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TxRaider210 Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
http://rt.com/usa/news/gun-colorado-people-percent-972/
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@ RND
Not a whole lot of difference imo. Interesting read on the spike in local gun sales since the incident happened.
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Very true Dave, we’ll be hearing negative about gun rights all week, as Obumma is set to sign the UN small arms treaty Friday night, while everyone watches opening ceremonies for the Olympics.
July 24th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
apparently you didn’t read the article!!
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doh! multitasking. yeah I need to click on it. Just saw Shockey and said no way.
July 24th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
It baffles me how McClain still seems to have a lot of support from the Nation. Why?
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Because he is the best MLB on the team right now.
He is on our defense.
I want our defense to play well.
3 main reasons right there.
July 24th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
Bummer if Philly signs Shiancoe.
July 24th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
McClain is going to EXCEL in this new defense.
July 24th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
If you are predicting 60, 1200 and 6 from DHB next year, we don’t need a whole ton else from our WR unit.
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@JFB
Calvin Johnson
Wes Welker
Victor Cruz
Larry Fitzgerald
Steve Smith
Roddy White
Jordy Nelson
Brandon Marshall
Mike Wallace
Hakeem Nicks
These guys all managed it. They didn’t have any help ??
July 24th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
Because he is the best MLB on the team right now.
He is on our defense.
I want our defense to play well.
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Reason one: How do we know for sure that he is better than Burris?
Reason two: Does being a homer count as a good reason?
Reason three: hoping something to be true doesn’t make it true.
July 24th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
guest123 Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 9:49 am
Leinart brings 6 years of NFL experience and knowledge of Knapp’s playbook from last years Texan team. He’s a working conduit on the field for CP3 and TP to transition into the new offensive system. And a cheap insurance policy that is easily thrown away when no longer needed. Smart move by the REGGIE. Always a couple steps ahead of everybody.
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The jury is still out on Lineart as far as I’m concerned. I mean, his body of work is way too limited to try and draw any real conclusions. The guy looked pretty damn good under Denny Green, the guy who drafted and believed in him. Got in Whisenhunt’s doghouse and gave way to a future HOFer. Big deal? That could happen to anyone. After the Cable debacle, I’m skeptical of coaches that use “questionable work ethic” as a reason for being down on a player. That’s code for “I don’t like the guy”. Happened to JR and VY, derailing two promising careers. I’m anxious to see how Lineart plays here.
July 24th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
365.Just Fire Baby Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
Rockstar,
If you are predicting 60, 1200 and 6 from DHB next year, we don’t need a whole ton else from our WR unit.
Maybe 8-10 decent games from Ford and Moore, a little contribution from the rooks and we’re set.
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I would expect a quantam leap from Denarious Moore this season.
July 24th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
1200+ yard guys don’t need that much help.
DHB = 100+ yards opening night.
Print it!!
July 24th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
After the Cable debacle, I’m skeptical of coaches that use “questionable work ethic” as a reason for being down on a player. That’s code for “I don’t like the guy”.
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Remember, in Leinert’s last year of college he took one class: ballroom dancing. That doesn’t sound like a workaholic to me. And frankly, a Q HAS to be a workaholic, (See Russell, Jamarcus). With regards to coaches disliking players, coaches very very rarely dislike players they feel can help them win games. At any level.
July 24th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
Listened to Gannon on Sirius this morning. His biggest concerns with the team are at CB and WR. Must say that I agree with him, especially at WR. We haven’t gotten this position right for the last 5 years. There’s definitiely potential, but we’ve needed a proven veteran there in the worst way for a long time.
July 24th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
217.SR Raider Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 8:01 am
I thought Murphy would be worth at least a 5th; getting only a 7th is a disappointment
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Agreed!
Gotta hope the WR corp doesn’t get those annoying hammy pulls in training camp as always.
Hope our new training and conditioning staff know what the are doing to make sure these guys are in proper shape. Good stretching techniques are important.
I think players need to be stretching on their off days routinely these days.
July 24th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
Reason one: How do we know for sure that he is better than Burris?
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Well, we are all trusting the Reggime, right?
The Reggime just traded one of oue leading WRs production wise because he likes at least 2 rookies
The Reggime didnt draft 55. If there was ANY chance Burris could be better than 55, 55 would be in Carolina too.
Reason two: Does being a homer count as a good reason?
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Absolutely! I tend to root for the players on my team.
Reason three: hoping something to be true doesn’t make it true.
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So I shouldn’t hope for the best for our defense?
July 24th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
@JFB
Nate Burleson & Titus Young did pretty well in Detroit last year.
Early Doucet & Andre Roberts did fine in Arizona, even though they had no QB
Deion Branch was cool in New England. [monster TE's]
Nicks & Cruz both ripped it up in NY
Legedu Naanee & Brandon LaFell combined for 80 catches & 1,000+ yards last year in Carolina …
ATL had Julio Jones
Jennings, Jones & Driver weren’t slouches in Green Bay
Davone Bess & Brian Hartline combined for 80 catches & 1,000+ yards last year in Miami … [no QB]
Antonio Brown & Hines Ward were in Steel City
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Just because King Darrius does well, doesn’t mean the other WR’s will be rendered useless !!
July 24th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
@ JHill,
I admire your loyalty, and I want to believe. I think the REGGIME has us on the right track, but a few eggs are going to broken on the way to making the omelet. I’m stuck in wait and see mode.
July 24th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
Well B@uce was gonna stay away until next week but Murphy dealt? Oh Hell yeah!…screw him and his bs….time to move on….Carolina bout to find out they dont have a starter just a reserve WR…………..my cuzzo in law Seyi Ajirotutu was impressing in OTAs and minicamp but they know Steve Smith gonna retire before too long so they packing up in WR dept. Seyi is better than Murphy as a poss WR but murphy has more speed less hands….Go SEYI GO!
July 24th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
Isn’t the pick a conditional pick meaning it could be anywhere from a 4th to a 7th depending on his performance?So much misinformation as usual on here.And the reason Leinert only took 1 class his last year was he’d ALREADY graduated.He had to take something to still be eligible to play.
July 24th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
Peymour Le Douche, it was you that said “Anybody with half a brain can see JaMarcus is a franchise Qb”.
lol…dont forget Kelly & Seymours job isnt stopping the run!
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Seymour Bush Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
That doesn’t sound like a workaholic to me. And frankly, a Q HAS to be a workaholic, (See Russell, Jamarcus).
July 24th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
DHB, Ford, & Moore are experienced vets.
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RaiderDebo Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
Listened to Gannon on Sirius this morning. His biggest concerns with the team are at CB and WR. Must say that I agree with him, especially at WR. We haven’t gotten this position right for the last 5 years. There’s definitiely potential, but we’ve needed a proven veteran there in the worst way for a long time.
July 24th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
not worried about wr at all.
If we end up with the 4th string guy playing a lot we are screwed anyway.
July 24th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
I’m here Beyotch!!!!
Check out post 251
Dropped from 13,000 feet representin!
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Raider O Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 11:56 am
Green Party members MIA?!
DMAC
ODB
Dave
Mack
July 24th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
Listened to Gannon on Sirius this morning. His biggest concerns with the team are at CB and WR. Must say that I agree with him, especially at WR. We haven’t gotten this position right for the last 5 years. There’s definitiely potential, but we’ve needed a proven veteran there in the worst way for a long time.
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How bout fk Rich Gannon? CB is not a concern if the dline gets pressure on the QB….I like our group of WRs…..Criner will be the poss guy we been looking for…..WE found Moore DHB and Ford who are all 2’s pr 3’s with great big play ability
Ask Gannon how his HOF pursuit is going or his quest for a SB
July 24th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
383.DKnight007 Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
217.SR Raider Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 8:01 am
I thought Murphy would be worth at least a 5th; getting only a 7th is a disappointment
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Agreed!
Gotta hope the WR corp doesn’t get those annoying hammy pulls in training camp as always.
Hope our new training and conditioning staff know what the are doing to make sure these guys are in proper shape. Good stretching techniques are important.
I think players need to be stretching on their off days routinely these days.
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Good news is we have one of the best strength and conditioning coaches in the business now.
Bad news is DA (in a “behind the shiled” interview) expressed concern over the amount of hammies they were getting in mini-camp.
Same old story.
DA said they “need to figure out what’s up with that and figure out ways to prevent them from happening”.
July 24th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
Everyone will thrive in this new Def. Just the fact AL isn’t altering the game plan 10pm sat nights any longer is a plus for everybody.
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Just Fire Baby Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
McClain is going to EXCEL in this new defense.
July 24th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
And before I hear the same lame schit about Gannon getting us to be the best last place team in the world in 2002…spare me….against great defenses he came up small
July 24th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
As long as we got a healthy CP3 and DMAC, we’re ready set go for a shot at a playoff run. All the other parts are interchangeable. Even the crappy defense.
July 24th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
Ask Gannon how his HOF pursuit is going or his quest for a SB
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Haha. Good one.
Let Gannon be concerned about the WR’s, I personally am not.
The CB’s? I admit that I am a little concerned. I’m drinking the kool-aid but I didn’t add sugar to this batch.
July 24th, 2012 at 12:53 pm
Matt Lionheart.
Panthers=Raiders East?
July 24th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
Coach, can I have a water-proof playbook please?
July 24th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
I’m more concerned about the LBers than the CBs but in all honesty the whole damn defense is what we should be concerned about after the last decade.
July 24th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
I like our current WR group. Brown & Rice were nice but this group we have now is much deeper then that group. I’mnot worried about CB at all. I wasn’t worried when #21 left and CC has game.
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Method To My Madness Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
Listened to Gannon on Sirius this morning. His biggest concerns with the team are at CB and WR. Must say that I agree with him, especially at WR. We haven’t gotten this position right for the last 5 years. There’s definitiely potential, but we’ve needed a proven veteran there in the worst way for a long time.
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How bout fk Rich Gannon? CB is not a concern if the dline gets pressure on the QB….I like our group of WRs…..Criner will be the poss guy we been looking for…..WE found Moore DHB and Ford who are all 2’s pr 3’s with great big play ability
Ask Gannon how his HOF pursuit is going or his quest for a SB
July 24th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
Got to see the LBs as improved if everyone stays healthy.
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lefty12 Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
I’m more concerned about the LBers than the CBs but in all honesty the whole damn defense is what we should be concerned about after the last decade.
July 24th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
Raidernationdave Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 9:26 am
Whut up Beyotches!!!!!
Man, I haven’t been on in 4 days – feels like a lifetime.
The freefall tandem skydive in Lompoc on Friday was a blast and yes, I jumped reppin’ the S & B in my long sleeve Raider tee.
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Whut up HO?
I’m glad your Parachute opened!
July 24th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
And before I hear the same lame schit about Gannon getting us to be the best last place team in the world in 2002…spare me….against great defenses he came up small
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Wealways agreed on this topic.
July 24th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
CB’s have the most to prove, imo. Question marks across the board
July 24th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
Listened to Gannon on Sirius this morning. His biggest concerns with the team are at CB and WR. Must say that I agree with him, especially at WR. We haven’t gotten this position right for the last 5 years. There’s definitiely potential, but we’ve needed a proven veteran there in the worst way for a long time.
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How bout fk Rich Gannon? CB is not a concern if the dline gets pressure on the QB….I like our group of WRs…..Criner will be the poss guy we been looking for…..WE found Moore DHB and Ford who are all 2’s pr 3’s with great big play ability
Ask Gannon how his HOF pursuit is going or his quest for a SB
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I’m in total agreement that Gannon’s schtick gets real old in a hurry, but he’s right about the receivers. We haven’t had a true #1 here since Jerry Porter, and some whould even debate that he was one. Would love to see Moore or DHB step up and be that guy, but that’s a 50-50 proposition at best. I will say that this group is 50 times better than the group we had in 2009. Poor JaMarcus!
July 24th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
Jhill….you know its fkin true…..all of a sudden becuz the Raiders stunk it up most of the from 94-99 this guy gets a pass to say what he wants…as if he was a winner…..that 2002 mvp was bogus….mcnair shoulda got that
July 24th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
MistaBrown Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
I like our current WR group. Brown & Rice were nice but this group we have now is much deeper then that group. I’mnot worried about CB at all. I wasn’t worried when #21 left and CC has game.
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Method To My Madness Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
Listened to Gannon on Sirius this morning. His biggest concerns with the team are at CB and WR. Must say that I agree with him, especially at WR. We haven’t gotten this position right for the last 5 years. There’s definitiely potential, but we’ve needed a proven veteran there in the worst way for a long time.
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How bout fk Rich Gannon? CB is not a concern if the dline gets pressure on the QB….I like our group of WRs…..Criner will be the poss guy we been looking for…..WE found Moore DHB and Ford who are all 2’s pr 3’s with great big play ability
Ask Gannon how his HOF pursuit is going or his quest for a SB
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Yes Brown and Porter were nice that year for us
July 24th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
Just remember how coaches like Belicheat talked about how easy it was to attack our past schemes.
Look at our last 2 games from last year.
The new scheme on D has me far from concerned based upon what we’ve seen before.
If anything, I’m excited to see a defense that takes more than 30 minutes to game plan for.
July 24th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
You need at least 2 sure handed receivers to win 10 games. We have zero. Our receivers are good in space, but in traffic they’re useless. We need a lot of work. Good thing is we now have management working on a 3 year plan, which is what a team like us needs, as opposed to delusional management thinking we’re within striking distance and only planning for the coming season.
July 24th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
394.DJ Johnny Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
383.DKnight007 Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
217.SR Raider Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 8:01 am
I thought Murphy would be worth at least a 5th; getting only a 7th is a disappointment
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Agreed!
Gotta hope the WR corp doesn’t get those annoying hammy pulls in training camp as always.
Hope our new training and conditioning staff know what the are doing to make sure these guys are in proper shape. Good stretching techniques are important.
I think players need to be stretching on their off days routinely these days.
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Good news is we have one of the best strength and conditioning coaches in the business now.
Bad news is DA (in a “behind the shiled” interview) expressed concern over the amount of hammies they were getting in mini-camp.
Same old story.
DA said they “need to figure out what’s up with that and figure out ways to prevent them from happening”.
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It’s all about proper stretching techniques and staying hydrated and drinking plenty of fluids and eating right.
Players need to STRETCH everyday…especially on off days.
July 24th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
Brahs, been toking the bong with a few strippers for the last few hours and working on a new Lake Show jam to top them all
This one is all about Dwight Howard getting an epic BJ in the jacuzzi from a wasted Laker Girl
And about how I cruise in to get the hizzie from behind, the whole time she’s thinking I’m Devin Eubanks
It’s called “Never Trust the Trolley”, kick it
Yo girl, you got me hot, here’s a string of pearls
But now it’s time to bounce, here comes a Laker Girl
With Dwight Howard you need to go the extra mile
While I sneak around back for some sweet doggy style
WOOF WOOF MEOW
July 24th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
I don’t think it’s delusional to think we are within striking distance. Not at all especially considering our conference foes. I will agree that beyond just making the playoffs is in line with 3 year plans/strategies.
July 24th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
397.guest123 Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
As long as we got a healthy CP3 and DMAC, we’re ready set go for a shot at a playoff run. All the other parts are interchangeable. Even the crappy defense.
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It’s all about the defense needing to improve big time and make plays and cut the penalties for this team to make the playoffs.
DMC needs to stay healthy most of the season and CP3 needs to cut the turnovers also.
July 24th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
I expect another 8 win season. 10 wins or better in 2013. 12 wins or better, legit SB hopefuls in 2014.
July 24th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
Jhill….how about pure talent…on D we didnt have it….over scheme talent wins when we get to postseason…..we lack a NT…we lack a real RDE….our LDE should be our UT…..our UT currently is a bum
IT STARTS UP FRONT
July 24th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
So there aren’t many questions about our LBers and they have nothing to prove?Curry is a 1 trick pony.Most on here hate McClain.The other starter is a new player from Indy who,btw,had one of the worst defenses in the league last year along with us,a rookie who was drafted in the middle rounds,or a guy who has been injured every pre-season(Goethel).That is concerning to me.
July 24th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
I expect another 8 win season. 10 wins or better in 2013. 12 wins or better, legit SB hopefuls in 2014.
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Well no one would be mad at that scenario….but with CP this year making that dough we better have an 8 win season that wins the dvision or else
July 24th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
B,
I checked out a couple of the dubs summer league games.
My only concern would be creating something off the dribble. Will curry be able to beat anyone off the dribble with those ankles?
Klay off the dribble?
Or should you look for a Reggie Evans type of screener?
July 24th, 2012 at 1:06 pm
Guest, you see a hit and miss Carson Palmer with no possession receivers having a chance going into Pittsburgh or New England in January? We got another season or two of work.
July 24th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
You need at least 2 sure handed receivers to win 10 games. We have zero. Our receivers are good in space, but in traffic they’re useless. We need a lot of work. Good thing is we now have management working on a 3 year plan, which is what a team like us needs, as opposed to delusional management thinking we’re within striking distance and only planning for the coming season.
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Dmoore has hands but isnt an over the middle WR
This is why we got hope for the slow footed Criner…becuz he has route running ability and catches with his hands
Moore catches very well….I believe if the staff doesnt fk this up Criner is our sure handed WR we been looking for
There is your 2…..maybe
July 24th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
McFadden, our only real, sure offensive weapon.
I’m a DC facing the Raiders:
Stop McFadden. End of story. Carson Palmer with no possession receivers? It’s downhill after stopping DMC.
July 24th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
@Method
What do you think of Bryant? Should he be a DT or DE or a tweener Rotational?
July 24th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
Brien,
you watch the good teams on Sunday. They’re on the prime time games usually. You know your NYG, New England, Green Bays, you ‘ve seen them. They rarely drop passes, Brien. You know the Raiders’ receiving corp isn’t on that level.
July 24th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
Outside of injury, I see no reason why we shouldn’t be right back on our 12 win pace running away with the division.
We don’t need a top 5 defense.
How do we not put up 27 points a gamewith a healthy DMac to go with our passing game?
How do defenses game paln for us?????
Will our WRs really get to play 1 on 1????
Cmon folks, IT’S ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 24th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
J Hill Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
B,
I checked out a couple of the dubs summer league games.
My only concern would be creating something off the dribble. Will curry be able to beat anyone off the dribble with those ankles?
Klay off the dribble?
Or should you look for a Reggie Evans type of screener?
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If Curry is healthy then he is always taking folks off the dribble man!
Klay is alot better dribbling than you give him credit for…as I been saying he is a more athletic and bigger Reggie Miller….and reggie wasnt great dribble and driver now was he?
Barnes is real smooth but pro coaches will work with him on his dribbling but he athleticism is undeniable
Wait to see how much of the paint and lanes will be open with Bogut on the block and Lee cleaning up garbage
Dont you worry about a real man’s team….you worry about your team geritol guards who are gonna get aced when they come to Oakland and make sure you rock a toupe when you come up north Uncle Phil
July 24th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
I hear you on the LBs, Lefty.
Just don’t agree, I guess.
Curry and 55 are going to be BEASTS!!!!
July 24th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
Brien,
you watch the good teams on Sunday. They’re on the prime time games usually. You know your NYG, New England, Green Bays, you ‘ve seen them. They rarely drop passes, Brien. You know the Raiders’ receiving corp isn’t on that level.
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Interesting 2011 Drop Rate among receivers. Check out #18!
http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/01/17/drop-rate-2011-which-receivers-are-dropping-the-ball/
July 24th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
J Hill Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
I hear you on the LBs, Lefty.
Just don’t agree, I guess.
Curry and 55 are going to be BEASTS!!!!
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Agreed..I think the LB’s will do fine, only DB’s that concern me are Spencer and DVD. Bartell should be healthy and perform and CC has skills if healthy imo.
July 24th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
Brien,
you watch the good teams on Sunday. They’re on the prime time games usually. You know your NYG, New England, Green Bays, you ‘ve seen them. They rarely drop passes, Brien. You know the Raiders’ receiving corp isn’t on that level.
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Yeah how rare was your buddy Wes Welker in the SB? lol
Nice trick DJ SulliFresh…that will work on others but wont on me
Nice of you to mention 3 teams with MVP caliber players at the QB spot on it……way to go out on a limb because every nfl WR has a top notch qb passing to them lol
DJ SulliFresh it is always a pleasure….please dont ever leave this site…your comedy is innovative…..how’s Sac treatin ya?
July 24th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
A toupe????
Is that the style up north?
You know I just found out Steve Harvey rocked a rug all those years???
July 24th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
I’m with you J Hill.I don’t understand the skepticism concerning the offense.We have the pieces.With the new modern schemes we will employ on defense there is no reason we shouldn’t compete for the play-offs.
July 24th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
LMAO @ the Ws being a real mans team.
Will you still roll with them when they move?
July 24th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
Brien,
you watch the good teams on Sunday. They’re on the prime time games usually. You know your NYG, New England, Green Bays, you ‘ve seen them. They rarely drop passes, Brien. You know the Raiders’ receiving corp isn’t on that level.
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Interesting 2011 Drop Rate among receivers. Check out #18!
http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/01/17/drop-rate-2011-which-receivers-are-dropping-the-ball/
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HAHA we dont have one remember?
Dutch…shot on me or blunt on me when you come to tailgate this year….solid post as usual
July 24th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
@Method
What do you think of Bryant? Should he be a DT or DE or a tweener Rotational?
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A tweener but he can be useful no doubt..I want him on my team…now its up to Allen and Tarver to use him properly…if so I can see this guy making some big plays
July 24th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
J Hill Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
A toupe????
Is that the style up north?
You know I just found out Steve Harvey rocked a rug all those years???
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When I was little I saw Steve Harvey standup routine on TV…of course I was watching it with fam who are adults but anyhow……..it was like 1992 and this negro was obviously receding…he had a long stip of nada in the middle….then he is MR. Hightower with a high top fade from the movie JUICE.
Style up north? Yes…east, west and south…with all point in between…being bald like you isnt specific to an area
July 24th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
J,I’m down with McClain,down on Curry although I believe they will be fine.However,until I see the proof,I’ll be concerned.
July 24th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
J Hill Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
LMAO @ the Ws being a real mans team.
Will you still roll with them when they move?
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Highly doubt they ever play in San Fransissyco….them rich folks at China Basin and SOMA gonna fight that…..where is the room? None!…but if they ever leave then I’m cool….Real Man and SF is an oxymoron lol
July 24th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
2012-2013 NFL Playoff teams:
NFC:
49ers 12-4
Eagles 12-4
Packers 11-5
Falcons 10-6
Cowboys 12-4
Bears 11-5
AFC:
Patriots 12-4
Texans 11-5
Raiders 10-6
Bengals 9-7
Jets 10-6
Ravens 9-7
July 24th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
Yo, just got a call from the Laker PR dept, John Black wants to pump my new track next season at the world’s Hoops Mecca, STaples Center
First they gotta wrap up the Dwight deal, so them lyrics will fit, word.
Black assured me they get a spotlight on the Lexus box during the jam so I’ll get my props
DOLLA DOLLA BILLS, Y’ALL
July 24th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
2012-2013 NFL Playoff teams:
NFC:
49ers 12-4
Eagles 12-4
Packers 11-5
Falcons 10-6
Cowboys 12-4
Bears 11-5
AFC:
Patriots 12-4
Texans 11-5
Raiders 10-6
Bengals 9-7
Jets 10-6
Ravens 9-7
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JV conference
Cowboys 12-4
Packers 12-4
Panthers 10-6
Rams 9-7
Eagles 11-5
Giants 9-7
VARSITY CONFERENCE
Texans 13-3
Pats 11-5
Steelers 11-5
Raiders 9-7
Bills 10-6
Titans 9-7
July 24th, 2012 at 1:30 pm
W’s will miss the playoffs yet again…
July 24th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
We know McClain and Curry start….but who will be the weakside LB? Beside RT this is the most interesting battle in NAPA to focus on
July 24th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
441. I dont think howard will be a Laker…
July 24th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
You tell em B@uce!!
July 24th, 2012 at 1:34 pm
Marks Hair Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 1:30 pm
W’s will miss the playoffs yet again…
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Doubt that highly if we’re healthy…..Warriors have a better basketball unit there now…ya know actual guys who play pg sg sf pf and c
We are gonna play some real ball and we got more size than we have had since the damn 70s with a nice bench
I hope they schedule the Lakers opening night in Oakland….you Laker cats can go 0-1
July 24th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
You tell em B@uce!!
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Could ya imagine those playoffs in the AFC for us?
That would mean a home game on a Saturday possibly in Oakland vs the Bills….already bad memories from that debacle in week 2 of 2011….crowd would be extra for an already extra ass game…but in that scenario we would have to travel to Houston cuz I dont see Jake Locker beating Steelers in steel town
July 24th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
“Could ya imagine those playoffs in the AFC for us?”
Nothing would make me more happy than to have a post season game!
July 24th, 2012 at 1:41 pm
666….as the great THEC says….you get in the tournament and anything is possible…amzing its been an entire decade….the guys seem anxious to hit up the 707 and get training camp a smackin! I plan to go check it out this year
July 24th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
666 i think that everyone here feels the same way brother !!
July 24th, 2012 at 1:43 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
2012-2013 NFL Playoff teams:
NFC:
49ers 12-4
Eagles 12-4
Packers 11-5
Falcons 10-6
Cowboys 12-4
Bears 11-5
AFC:
Patriots 12-4
Texans 11-5
Raiders 10-6
Bengals 9-7
Jets 10-6
Ravens 9-7
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Lions and Giants over Bears and Boys
Bengals/Raiders/Jets probaly not playoff teams
July 24th, 2012 at 1:43 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 1:41 pm
666….as the great THEC says….you get in the tournament and anything is possible…amzing its been an entire decade….the guys seem anxious to hit up the 707 and get training camp a smackin! I plan to go check it out this year
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Don’t forget to bring your grandpa Krappy
And try to keep the old fool away from county fairs – a few weeks ago he tried to molest Bubba Paris at the hot fudge stand
July 24th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 1:43 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
2012-2013 NFL Playoff teams:
NFC:
49ers 12-4
Eagles 12-4
Packers 11-5
Falcons 10-6
Cowboys 12-4
Bears 11-5
AFC:
Patriots 12-4
Texans 11-5
Raiders 10-6
Bengals 9-7
Jets 10-6
Ravens 9-7
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Lions and Giants over Bears and Boys
Bengals/Raiders/Jets probaly not playoff teams
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This is what I came up with after looking thru everyones schedule.
So.. “It is what it is”…
July 24th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 1:43 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 1:41 pm
666….as the great THEC says….you get in the tournament and anything is possible…amzing its been an entire decade….the guys seem anxious to hit up the 707 and get training camp a smackin! I plan to go check it out this year
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Don’t forget to bring your grandpa Krappy
And try to keep the old fool away from county fairs – a few weeks ago he tried to molest Bubba Paris at the hot fudge stand
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Correction…my grandfather is Robert Dixon
So Beecher how does this feel to be the last summer until your beloved LA city gets the NFL back when the Chargers Bolt in February to go play at the Rose Bowl before Farmer’s Field opens in 2015? You still got that invoice? Didnt you say you will rep any LA team? Oh you can wait for the 2nd team to come from STL…which is a team back to LA again….so you got LA Rams and LA Chargers….your 2013 Fall shall be busy with all the DJ gigs in between
July 24th, 2012 at 1:48 pm
Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 1:43 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
2012-2013 NFL Playoff teams:
NFC:
49ers 12-4
Eagles 12-4
Packers 11-5
Falcons 10-6
Cowboys 12-4
Bears 11-5
AFC:
Patriots 12-4
Texans 11-5
Raiders 10-6
Bengals 9-7
Jets 10-6
Ravens 9-7
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Lions and Giants over Bears and Boys
Bengals/Raiders/Jets probaly not playoff teams
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Uh no so fast my Hairy friend….the AFC West is up for grabs…all teams are about even…so we got a chance bruh
July 24th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 1:43 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
2012-2013 NFL Playoff teams:
NFC:
49ers 12-4
Eagles 12-4
Packers 11-5
Falcons 10-6
Cowboys 12-4
Bears 11-5
AFC:
Patriots 12-4
Texans 11-5
Raiders 10-6
Bengals 9-7
Jets 10-6
Ravens 9-7
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Lions and Giants over Bears and Boys
Bengals/Raiders/Jets probaly not playoff teams
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This is what I came up with after looking thru everyones schedule.
So.. “It is what it is”…
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Hey, If the Raiders make the playoffs no matter what the scenario, I’m happy as can be. I’m trying to sip delicately on the kool aid this year. 3 years from now I will be on the Raiders superbowl bandwagon. If they win quicker than I anticapate I would always rather be wrong. I think Reg has a plan, and it is not a 1 year plan. I loathe the Cheifs but I can see them making some noise in the AFC west this year. (unfortunetley)
July 24th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
Serious question Duece…how do you see the 49ers being 12-4 with that schedule and with the high chance Alexis Smith comes back to his true self?
July 24th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
Lofa Tatopu out for the year
July 24th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
Yep Chiefs defense will be tough and they’ll have some weapons back in charles and omedummyaki…eventho they wont be 100 pct
July 24th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
Hwnrdr….how bout dem A’s?
You rollin with it next month to a game?
July 24th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
Genital, does Robert Dixon (aka KrappyKell) know how you swoon the hizzies with your dorm room fridge?
Speaking of the Raiders moving back to their rightful home in LA, working on a new sketch for my Farmer’s Field luxury box
Besides the taco, enchilada and extreme nacho stations, there will be a 6 ft. Magnum dispenser for her pleasure.
Guaranteed my weiner will be safely wrapped when Carson throws that first TD on opening day, holla
July 24th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
Serious question Duece…how do you see the 49ers being 12-4 with that schedule and with the high chance Alexis Smith comes back to his true self?
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Saints, Packers & Patriots I counted as L’s.
Cardinals & Rams = 4 wins.
Split with Seattle & your at 5-4
I see them beating:
Lions
Vikings
Jets
Bills
Giants
Bears
Dolphins
By no means am I saying this is a fact, just what im guessing.
July 24th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
So who’s keeping track of predictions? Put me down for 10-6.
July 24th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
Genital, does Robert Dixon (aka KrappyKell) know how you swoon the hizzies with your dorm room fridge?
Speaking of the Raiders moving back to their rightful home in LA, working on a new sketch for my Farmer’s Field luxury box
Besides the taco, enchilada and extreme nacho stations, there will be a 6 ft. Magnum dispenser for her pleasure.
Guaranteed my weiner will be safely wrapped when Carson throws that first TD on opening day, holla
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I guess you dont read well….KoolKell is Michael Kelly…he even admitted that and his pic is up for all of us to view….Robert Dixon doesnt sound the same phonetically as michael Kelly does it
No one was speaking about Raiders moving to thatroad trip called LA. The Chargers and Rams moving there…again is what was mentioned…..keep up lil queen
Carson will throw an opening night TD vs the Chargers week 1 in 2012….still scared to come up tothe Raiders rightful home eh?
July 24th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
So are you going to Napa this year B@uce?
If so I wouldn’t mind meeting you up there for a brew and some greenery.
July 24th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
Serious question Duece…how do you see the 49ers being 12-4 with that schedule and with the high chance Alexis Smith comes back to his true self?
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Saints, Packers & Patriots I counted as L’s.
Cardinals & Rams = 4 wins.
Split with Seattle & your at 5-4
I see them beating:
Lions
Vikings
Jets
Bills
Giants
Bears
Dolphins
By no means am I saying this is a fact, just what im guessing.
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First off the damn Lions will beat the niners in SF this time….they gonna beat their ass and 49ers will be 0-2 cuz packers gonna wear them out week before
And the way how the schedule is they got a btch of and ending with those 4 road games
This year they take the fall
July 24th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
Hwnrdr….how bout dem A’s?
You rollin with it next month to a game?
A’s are rolling…gotta try to hit up a game this year! Been too long!
July 24th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
I got 49ers 3-5 when their bye comes up….they not sneaking up on anyone this season….people focus on ya different when you are viewed as a SB contender….I dont think theyll rise to this challenge
July 24th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
Cool Hwnrdr…its fun…i been to a few
July 24th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
Serious question Duece…how do you see the 49ers being 12-4 with that schedule and with the high chance Alexis Smith comes back to his true self?
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Saints, Packers & Patriots I counted as L’s.
Cardinals & Rams = 4 wins.
Split with Seattle & your at 5-4
I see them beating:
Lions
Vikings
Jets
Bills
Giants
Bears
Dolphins
By no means am I saying this is a fact, just what im guessing.
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First off the damn Lions will beat the niners in SF this time….they gonna beat their ass and 49ers will be 0-2 cuz packers gonna wear them out week before
And the way how the schedule is they got a btch of and ending with those 4 road games
This year they take the fall
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Could be..
July 24th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
Hwnrdr Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
Lofa Tatopu out for the year
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This is why I say no news is good news this time of year
July 24th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
Duece….if you were out here you would be sick of the 49er ass kissing and these niner fans last summer had no hope with suck for Luck chants now they say they taking the bowl this year
July 24th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
Duece….if you were out here you would be sick of the 49er ass kissing and these niner fans last summer had no hope with suck for Luck chants now they say they taking the bowl this year
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Trust me, I know.
Im surrounded by Niner fans.
July 24th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
Duece….if you were out here you would be sick of the 49er ass kissing and these niner fans last summer had no hope with suck for Luck chants now they say they taking the bowl this year
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Bunch of ship jumpers. Know someone that said he was changing to being a Pats fan last summer. Know another one that jumped ship to our Raiders if you can believe that, when Rice came over. Fair weather fairies.
July 24th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
Duece….if you were out here you would be sick of the 49er ass kissing and these niner fans last summer had no hope with suck for Luck chants now they say they taking the bowl this year
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Trust me, I know.
Im surrounded by Niner fans.
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A couple of assh-les in Orlando eh? Sorry to hear that
July 24th, 2012 at 2:24 pm
I dont know how we get past kc.. And den should be tuff.. Sd is rebuilding, but so are we..
July 24th, 2012 at 2:24 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
Duece….if you were out here you would be sick of the 49er ass kissing and these niner fans last summer had no hope with suck for Luck chants now they say they taking the bowl this year
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Trust me, I know.
Im surrounded by Niner fans.
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A couple of assh-les in Orlando eh? Sorry to hear that
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Im not from Orlando.
Cali.
July 24th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
Marks Hair Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 2:24 pm
I dont know how we get past kc.. And den should be tuff.. Sd is rebuilding, but so are we..
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Know a staunch KC fan that thinks the same thing about us. Thinks our offense will be tough to beat.
July 24th, 2012 at 2:28 pm
I dont respect niner fan enough to care.. All the niner fans ive ever met turn off the tvs or watch golf when their team stinks.. I ALWAYS take my medicine and watch evrry raider game..
July 24th, 2012 at 2:28 pm
That makes two of us! I may move from the ‘Ville to Lompoc.
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Raider O Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
Raidernationdave Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 9:26 am
Whut up Beyotches!!!!!
Man, I haven’t been on in 4 days – feels like a lifetime.
The freefall tandem skydive in Lompoc on Friday was a blast and yes, I jumped reppin’ the S & B in my long sleeve Raider tee.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Whut up HO?
I’m glad your Parachute opened!
July 24th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
Genital, as soon as you fulfill your promise to meet up at the Ritz I’ll consider flying me and my hizzies up to a game
Now is the time where you lie about coming to the Ritz already. But please, Brian, do it again – me and my Blog Brahs can’t get enough!
Yo, any of you ever leave a pack of Starburst inside a shorty’s va-jay-jay?
It’s a long story but I could use a little hit of fruity refreshement, swizzle
July 24th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
Unfortunately, I don’t see the Whiners regressing much in 2012.
I don’t really hate the Whiners like some of you guys do. Don’t live in the Bay area and don’t consider them as Raider rivals.
Would like to see them take a big fall only because I’m sick of the Harbaugh brothers hype and the growing number of bandwagon Whiner fans.
I don’t see the Rams or Cards threatening the Whiner hold on the NFC West.
I do think the Seachickens will surprise this year as long as Flynn solidifies the QB position. The loss of Lynch to impending suspension definitely hurts, but I see the Seattle defense as being on the verge of being one of the top units in the NFL.
My most hated team in the NFL ?
The Denver Mules.
Hate those fkers with a passion.
July 24th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
The Big Banana Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
Duece….if you were out here you would be sick of the 49er ass kissing and these niner fans last summer had no hope with suck for Luck chants now they say they taking the bowl this year
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Bunch of ship jumpers. Know someone that said he was changing to being a Pats fan last summer. Know another one that jumped ship to our Raiders if you can believe that, when Rice came over. Fair weather fairies.
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Been a joke since the 80s…they didnt sellout a season until like 1982 at Candleschit….even now its bandwagon central
Priceless was watching the niner fans after the game threaten Kyle Williams life…and then a few weeks ago more than likely a niner fan stabs Aldon Smith…wow and we are the crooks?
July 24th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
Genital, as soon as you fulfill your promise to meet up at the Ritz I’ll consider flying me and my hizzies up to a game
Now is the time where you lie about coming to the Ritz already. But please, Brian, do it again – me and my Blog Brahs can’t get enough!
Yo, any of you ever leave a pack of Starburst inside a shorty’s va-jay-jay?
It’s a long story but I could use a little hit of fruity refreshement, swizzle
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Before I went to the Ritz to discover how much a fraud you were….you agreed in July of 2011 to come to a game…..still a no show….just like the Raiders will be a no show in LA lol
July 24th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 2:24 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
Duece….if you were out here you would be sick of the 49er ass kissing and these niner fans last summer had no hope with suck for Luck chants now they say they taking the bowl this year
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Trust me, I know.
Im surrounded by Niner fans.
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A couple of assh-les in Orlando eh? Sorry to hear that
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Im not from Orlando.
Cali.
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Pardon me…i knew you were an Orlando Magic fan
July 24th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
Marks Hair Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 2:24 pm
I dont know how we get past kc.. And den should be tuff.. Sd is rebuilding, but so are we..
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KC defense will be good but still have Cassell at qb lol….charles and omeaki coming off acl injuries….come on we can beat them
den tough cuz of peyton who is lacking velocity on his passes now? Yeahthat great denver defense lol
sd rebuilding? you sound nuts….this year isnt for rebuilding while Rivers is in his prime and you got a pro bowl te and rb
July 24th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
Genital, as soon as you fulfill your promise to meet up at the Ritz I’ll consider flying me and my hizzies up to a game
Now is the time where you lie about coming to the Ritz already. But please, Brian, do it again – me and my Blog Brahs can’t get enough!
Yo, any of you ever leave a pack of Starburst inside a shorty’s va-jay-jay?
It’s a long story but I could use a little hit of fruity refreshement, swizzle
*************
Before I went to the Ritz to discover how much a fraud you were….you agreed in July of 2011 to come to a game…..still a no show….just like the Raiders will be a no show in LA lol
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Thanks, Genital! Like I said, me and all my Blog Brahs always love that one
July 24th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
Unfortunately, I don’t see the Whiners regressing much in 2012.
I don’t really hate the Whiners like some of you guys do. Don’t live in the Bay area and don’t consider them as Raider rivals.
Would like to see them take a big fall only because I’m sick of the Harbaugh brothers hype and the growing number of bandwagon Whiner fans.
I don’t see the Rams or Cards threatening the Whiner hold on the NFC West.
I do think the Seachickens will surprise this year as long as Flynn solidifies the QB position. The loss of Lynch to impending suspension definitely hurts, but I see the Seattle defense as being on the verge of being one of the top units in the NFL.
My most hated team in the NFL ?
The Denver Mules.
Hate those fkers with a passion.
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Well old man…..I think the 49ers lack of a qb who can challenge a defense will hurt this year….niners had their share of lucky ass games dont forget…every year in nfl is different and people adjust
I just feel with how they have went with Fisher at HC along with Bradford, the dline, steven jackson and the draft picks the Rams are the surprise. They should won division 2 years ago but blew it. I got them beating Seattle this time at the end of the year to make playoffs
July 24th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
@Method
Would you take Josh Johnson over Matt Leinart as a backup? (Well before Johnson was tainted)
July 24th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
Genital, as soon as you fulfill your promise to meet up at the Ritz I’ll consider flying me and my hizzies up to a game
Now is the time where you lie about coming to the Ritz already. But please, Brian, do it again – me and my Blog Brahs can’t get enough!
Yo, any of you ever leave a pack of Starburst inside a shorty’s va-jay-jay?
It’s a long story but I could use a little hit of fruity refreshement, swizzle
*************
Before I went to the Ritz to discover how much a fraud you were….you agreed in July of 2011 to come to a game…..still a no show….just like the Raiders will be a no show in LA lol
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Thanks, Genital! Like I said, me and all my Blog Brahs always love that one
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Not one person on the blog believes you Beecher….folks seen me in person…and when Feb 2013 comes and the Chargers relocate to LA you will get destroyed on here…becuz per your words…you will rep any team that plays in LA…sothat includes our div rival hahahahahahahahaha…you are a fake and a phony….not wack ass 2 bars raps by you can change that
July 24th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
#485 – exactly. We get a bad rap while they act the clown. SMH.
July 24th, 2012 at 2:45 pm
Only need to be at 90% of cap to be cba compliant.
Reggie sign remaining FAs at minimum or save dollars/cap space for next season as McFadden, Shaughnessy, Bryant, Reece, and a few others are FAs next year.
Vehldeer proves himself again this season (Wisniewski too), Raiders just might need the dollars to sign them longterm before they become FAs.
July 24th, 2012 at 2:45 pm
I meant #484
July 24th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
McFadden’s not a free agent next year, is he? Don’t think so…
July 24th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
@Method
Would you take Josh Johnson over Matt Leinart as a backup? (Well before Johnson was tainted)
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Tough one…thats like asking who is more truthful Beecher or a politician
Josh is from Oakland and people are proud he made it to the big time……but Matt to me is a better overall QB…I mean we have seen some games from him where he looked competent
July 24th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
Seymour wont be on the team next year.
Maybe even Huff too..
July 24th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
The Big Banana Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
McFadden’s not a free agent next year, is he? Don’t think so…
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No.
July 24th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
Big Banana…we are hard on our guys but do any of us threaten their lives? We talking more than 10 people doing this too!….you see Raider folks stabbing Raider players in their own house?
I bet that was a niner fan because SJ area are Niner and Giant fans….why do you think 49ers going there?
July 24th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
Calm down, Genital
Did you learn to get all worked up in your Thuggin’ class at Alameda Community College?
When the Raiders return to their rightful home in LA, I promise to extend an invitation to you and grandpa Krappy to work as servants in my luxury box
May be some free chicken fingers in it for both of you, but you’ll have to eat them in the bus on the way home
No way my ladies from Spearmint Rhino and important Hollywood industry friends will see the “help” eating
FO SHIZZLE ON MY HIZZLE
July 24th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
Seymour wont be on the team next year.
Maybe even Huff too..
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They can take Kelly and Barnes with them as well…you too Cooper Carlisle
July 24th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
Starting to get a little amped for the arrival of football, in particular Raider football!…
Very anxious to read about how the Defense looks through the bloodshot eyes of Jerry & Cork, once they’re allowed to take off the skirts, and sort of start hitting….
Wasn’t it Travis Ivey, who told Cork he couldn’t wait for camp, so he “could hit somebody”? I am hoping he can turn out to be a find, and turn into a lane clogger that we haven’t had in a looonnng time…..
July 24th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
Calm down, Genital
Did you learn to get all worked up in your Thuggin’ class at Alameda Community College?
When the Raiders return to their rightful home in LA, I promise to extend an invitation to you and grandpa Krappy to work as servants in my luxury box
May be some free chicken fingers in it for both of you, but you’ll have to eat them in the bus on the way home
No way my ladies from Spearmint Rhino and important Hollywood industry friends will see the “help” eating
FO SHIZZLE ON MY HIZZLE
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Us real men are discussing the Oakland Raiders and the NFL….shut up lil fella
LA Raiders will never happen again…get over it pal
July 24th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
We have less than 50 players on roster for 2013, totalling 130 million in cap.
Cap limit is 120 million.
Half of that 120 is Kelly, Seymour, Branch, Huff, DHB & DMC.
July 24th, 2012 at 2:53 pm
909RaiderLifer Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
Starting to get a little amped for the arrival of football, in particular Raider football!…
Very anxious to read about how the Defense looks through the bloodshot eyes of Jerry & Cork, once they’re allowed to take off the skirts, and sort of start hitting….
Wasn’t it Travis Ivey, who told Cork he couldn’t wait for camp, so he “could hit somebody”? I am hoping he can turn out to be a find, and turn into a lane clogger that we haven’t had in a looonnng time…..
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909 you need to talk to Jhill,Oakglenn and a few others about this….I’ve been yelling for a lane clogger forever….until we have one our defense shall suck vs the run…Kelly and Seymour aint it
July 24th, 2012 at 2:53 pm
Barring huge years, Kelly, Seymour & Huff are gone and will give us around 30 million in cap space.
July 24th, 2012 at 2:53 pm
Man, it’s going to be so classic when Brian the Genital melts down all over the blog after the announcement the Raiders are moving to LA
Going to rival the time he threatened to murder bloggers when Cousin the Genital flamed out of the tournament in the 1st round
That was pretty hilarious, huh brahs?
Good times, holla
July 24th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
I expect DHB to be extended. That will create cap space too.
July 24th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
We have less than 50 players on roster for 2013, totalling 130 million in cap.
Cap limit is 120 million.
Half of that 120 is Kelly, Seymour, Branch, Huff, DHB & DMC.
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Bye Kelly,Seymour,Huff and DHB
July 24th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
DHB isnt going anywhere.
July 24th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 2:53 pm
Man, it’s going to be so classic when Brian the Genital melts down all over the blog after the announcement the Raiders are moving to LA
Going to rival the time he threatened to murder bloggers when Cousin the Genital flamed out of the tournament in the 1st round
That was pretty hilarious, huh brahs?
Good times, holla
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No dont even get it twisted….that from March still stands….whats even mor funny is your jealousy of Mike lol….Mizzou will be juggernaut of College Basketball this year and next summer Mike gets drafted and i’ll be in Vegas posted watching him in summer league while you are still crying about Chargers going to LA
July 24th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
DHB isnt going anywhere.
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Explain…..Criner is a real poss wr while DHB is not…DHB aint better than Mooreand Ford is a classic 3rd wr….so i dont know where there is space for DHB to be our 4th
July 24th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
I’m doing some Scouting Reports for the 2013 NFL Draft and 2 people really stand out and then there’s 2 other people who I think will have pretty big seasons.
Stand Outs
Sean Porter (OLB) Texas A&M
David Amerson (CB) NC State
Surprise Player’s
Tajh Boyd (QB) Clemson
Rex Burkhead (RB) Nebraska
Dont forget to tune in on Saturdays to watch College Ball guys.. These kids are the future of the NFL..
July 24th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 2:53 pm
Man, it’s going to be so classic when Brian the Genital melts down all over the blog after the announcement the Raiders are moving to LA
Going to rival the time he threatened to murder bloggers when Cousin the Genital flamed out of the tournament in the 1st round
That was pretty hilarious, huh brahs?
Good times, holla
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No dont even get it twisted….that from March still stands….whats even mor funny is your jealousy of Mike lol….Mizzou will be juggernaut of College Basketball this year and next summer Mike gets drafted and i’ll be in Vegas posted watching him in summer league while you are still crying about Chargers going to LA
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Of course you’ll be with him in Vegas, Genital. How else is he going to get his breakfast made up nice and snappy, just the way he likes it?
Can’t be a part of the gravy train if you stay at home near the dorm fridge
Just keepin’ it real, wizzle
July 24th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
PD OCHO UNO!…..you are officially the only OCHO in the land!
July 24th, 2012 at 3:01 pm
Kelly, Seymour and Huffy better earn those checks this year, RM seems to run things like a savvy business man, he also can draw the line between being “family” and guys doing their jobs.
July 24th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
DHB isnt going anywhere.
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Explain…..Criner is a real poss wr while DHB is not…DHB aint better than Mooreand Ford is a classic 3rd wr….so i dont know where there is space for DHB to be our 4th
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He’ll extend to a cap friendly deal.
DHB
Moore
Criner
Ford
Will be out core for a while..
July 24th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
Baucceeeee!!!! Wuss Good Bruh
July 24th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 2:53 pm
Man, it’s going to be so classic when Brian the Genital melts down all over the blog after the announcement the Raiders are moving to LA
Going to rival the time he threatened to murder bloggers when Cousin the Genital flamed out of the tournament in the 1st round
That was pretty hilarious, huh brahs?
Good times, holla
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No dont even get it twisted….that from March still stands….whats even mor funny is your jealousy of Mike lol….Mizzou will be juggernaut of College Basketball this year and next summer Mike gets drafted and i’ll be in Vegas posted watching him in summer league while you are still crying about Chargers going to LA
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Of course you’ll be with him in Vegas, Genital. How else is he going to get his breakfast made up nice and snappy, just the way he likes it?
Can’t be a part of the gravy train if you stay at home near the dorm fridge
Just keepin’ it real, wizzle
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Naw I dont cook breakfast you jcat lol…why are you describing what you do for your life partner on the regular? Still trying to get enough signatures to get California to turnover prop 8?
Nothing wrong with going to summer league game to watch your blood play a game you love….I’m trying to find the error in this lol….more jealousy…..so what section you sitting at for the LA Chargers?
July 24th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
RIP Sherman “George Jefferson” Hemsley.
July 24th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
PurpleDrank81 Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
Baucceeeee!!!! Wuss Good Bruh
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Agh bruh u know just lookin at it………what’s smackin in the da Rich?
July 24th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
RIP Sherman “George Jefferson” Hemsley.
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Yeah it sucks….I think in honor of Sherman everyone should do the walk and yell out “Weezie”
July 24th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
DHB isnt going anywhere.
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Explain…..Criner is a real poss wr while DHB is not…DHB aint better than Mooreand Ford is a classic 3rd wr….so i dont know where there is space for DHB to be our 4th
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He’ll extend to a cap friendly deal.
DHB
Moore
Criner
Ford
Will be out core for a while..
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He gonna extend just to be 4th WR? Criner is taking that number 1 spot by season’s end….football wise it makes most sense…I have supreme unshakeable confidence in that
July 24th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
There is nothing Seymour can do that will keep him on the team next year.
July 24th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
This FIFA basketball has some weird rules.
Harden on the line for the second of two free throws…
Ball hits off the front of the rim, off the backboard and on to the front rim again…Carmelo tips it in while it’s still over the cylinder.
Two points.
Apparently, that’s legal according to FIFA rules.
Guess there’s no offensive goaltending.
July 24th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
There is nothing Seymour can do that will keep him on the team next year.
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Disagree….play hard this year and then become a scout for Raiders lol…he’ll still be apart
July 24th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
Mannn Same Ol’ Drama… Just bought a House in San Pablo….. Workin in El Cerrito rite now….You know just livin life
July 24th, 2012 at 3:10 pm
Yo, the Beeech Dawg got a lot of his swizzle from the Sherm Dawg
Repping high rises, mad retail and swag
Only thing JG didn’t pull hot hizzies from the strip club, coulda showed the old playa some pimpin’ moves
SHOUT OUT TO THE USA
July 24th, 2012 at 3:10 pm
Can’t wait for the Raiders to win the Super Bowl. Then I can tell all my buddies at work to go and lick some niner ass. I’ve told you for a long time now, like months, I hope the Raiders meet the niners in the big one and the Raiders lick their balls clean. Then I can tell all my buddies and co-workers to go and eat ass.
July 24th, 2012 at 3:10 pm
Olympics? ZZZZZZZZZZZZZ…we know the USA will win and we wont care….London yawwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnn….2016 Brazil talk to me then
Eventhough that was a clean ass article in ESPN the other day about Olympic village
July 24th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
Barney Larry Tostada Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 3:10 pm
Can’t wait for the Raiders to win the Super Bowl. Then I can tell all my buddies at work to go and lick some niner ass. I’ve told you for a long time now, like months, I hope the Raiders meet the niners in the big one and the Raiders lick their balls clean. Then I can tell all my buddies and co-workers to go and eat ass.
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No…dude just leave
July 24th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
I am too young for “The Jefferson’s” although I’ll toast to Mr Hemsley’s life anyway…
July 24th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
PurpleDrank81 Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
Mannn Same Ol’ Drama… Just bought a House in San Pablo….. Workin in El Cerrito rite now….You know just livin life
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I can dig it….you hittin up the Coliseum this season or what?
July 24th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
@531, agreed…
July 24th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
JLofty Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
I am too young for “The Jefferson’s” although I’ll toast to Mr Hemsley’s life anyway…
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Never too young! They played the re-runs all through our lifetime!…and TV1 always shows it
George would roast the life outta folks too much lmao
July 24th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
DHB isnt going anywhere.
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Explain…..Criner is a real poss wr while DHB is not…DHB aint better than Mooreand Ford is a classic 3rd wr….so i dont know where there is space for DHB to be our 4th
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He’ll extend to a cap friendly deal.
DHB
Moore
Criner
Ford
Will be out core for a while..
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He gonna extend just to be 4th WR? Criner is taking that number 1 spot by season’s end….football wise it makes most sense…I have supreme unshakeable confidence in that
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He’s gonna extend to be a Raider.
Depth chart will sort itself out.
This is a big year for DHB.
July 24th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
There is nothing Seymour can do that will keep him on the team next year.
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Play for 5 million a year?
July 24th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
Ok Duecers….but check game….if he isnt the best WR on our roster this season then he gotta go. He must show us 80 catches 1200 yards and 8 TDs at the least to prove he is that guy
July 24th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
J Hill Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
There is nothing Seymour can do that will keep him on the team next year.
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Play for 5 million a year?
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Play what exactly?
July 24th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
We need a little training camp version of the MUP.
Who is going to be the camp rising star?
Travis Ivey?
Mike Goodson?
Duke Calhoun?
Burris, Streater, Pryor, one of the TE’s, Checkwa, DVD, Spenser, that big FB, Crawford?
Lets get a TC MUP list….
July 24th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
JLofty Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
@531, agreed…
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Whats wrong with me wanting to see the Raiders mop the floor with some niner ass in the super bowl? All my buddies and co-workers are niner fans and they make me sick. I would love to see the Raiders wipe their ass and make them smell it.
July 24th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
JLofty Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
We need a little training camp version of the MUP.
Who is going to be the camp rising star?
Travis Ivey?
Mike Goodson?
Duke Calhoun?
Burris, Streater, Pryor, one of the TE’s, Checkwa, DVD, Spenser, that big FB, Crawford?
Lets get a TC MUP list….
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Criner…sign me up now
July 24th, 2012 at 3:19 pm
Barney Larry Tostada Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
JLofty Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
@531, agreed…
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Whats wrong with me wanting to see the Raiders mop the floor with some niner ass in the super bowl? All my buddies and co-workers are niner fans and they make me sick. I would love to see the Raiders wipe their ass and make them smell it.
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How about just beat them and win….not lickin their balls…..that aint even cool bruh bruh
July 24th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
I’ll be at the Charger Monday Night Game for sure…. Hoping this Jack Tatum Jersey comes in on time but them size 60 Jerseys take 2-4 extra weeks to get
July 24th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
J Hill Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
There is nothing Seymour can do that will keep him on the team next year.
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Play for 5 million a year?
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He’s due to make 19 million next year.
Im not sure his contract can be re-worked again.
He’s gone.
Part of the 2 year cap solution Reggie is executing.
July 24th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
Im taking Streeter
July 24th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
I dont care about stats.
As long as were winning and DHB, or anyone for that matter, is contributing at a rational price, then im all for it.
July 24th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
PurpleDrank81 Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
I’ll be at the Charger Monday Night Game for sure…. Hoping this Jack Tatum Jersey comes in on time but them size 60 Jerseys take 2-4 extra weeks to get
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Yep thats the one….Thec,Hwnrdr,DIRT LOT and hopefully DMAC will be in the lot as you know the B@uce and Norco Bob will be there somewhere
July 24th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
JLofty Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
I am too young for “The Jefferson’s” although I’ll toast to Mr Hemsley’s life anyway…
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Never too young! They played the re-runs all through our lifetime!…and TV1 always shows it
George would roast the life outta folks too much lmao
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Sorry B, but I was more of an A-Team kid or even Dukes of Hazard. Needed more action….Jeffereson’s was on primetime when I was a kid. I think I’m older than you.
Only comedy repeats I can remember were 3’sCompany, Cosby maybe? Man what a wasteland of culture…
July 24th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
DHB
Moore
Ford
Criner
Streater
Calhoun/McGee
Those are our WRs this season.
July 24th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
JLofty Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
We need a little training camp version of the MUP.
Who is going to be the camp rising star?
Travis Ivey?
Mike Goodson?
Duke Calhoun?
Burris, Streater, Pryor, one of the TE’s, Checkwa, DVD, Spenser, that big FB, Crawford?
Lets get a TC MUP list….
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Criner…sign me up now
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Burris..if we’re picking one dude only..
July 24th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
Yup I will find you or you guys will find me….It’s pretty hard to miss the 6′2 320 lb white guy with a Tatum jersey on and a bottle of Goose
July 24th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
I dont care about stats.
As long as were winning and DHB, or anyone for that matter, is contributing at a rational price, then im all for it.
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WR position especially the number matters for a guy being your number 1 WR…..why would he stay if he gets more PT and money some place else? He is like 25 years old bruh bruh
July 24th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
sign me up for Duke Calhoun.
July 24th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
He’s due to make 19 million next year.
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There is nothing Seymour can do that will keep him on the team next year.
July 24th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
PurpleDrank81 Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
Yup I will find you or you guys will find me….It’s pretty hard to miss the 6′2 320 lb white guy with a Tatum jersey on and a bottle of Goose
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Sorry but I see about 20-30 white guys at least with that same program lmao…its the Raider game mayne!
July 24th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
I dont care about stats.
As long as were winning and DHB, or anyone for that matter, is contributing at a rational price, then im all for it.
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WR position especially the number matters for a guy being your number 1 WR…..why would he stay if he gets more PT and money some place else? He is like 25 years old bruh bruh
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Strikes me as a loyal guy.
July 24th, 2012 at 3:25 pm
Lakers looking into LeBrons step-dad Delonte West.
July 24th, 2012 at 3:25 pm
Tx210….ya know I was gonna say Burris cuz I like his aggressive and closing speed once he is locked in on a target
July 24th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
TC MUP 2012
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B@uce: Criner
PD OchoUno: Streater
JLofty: Crawford
July 24th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
DHB
Moore
Ford
Criner
Streater
Calhoun/McGee
Those are our WRs this season.
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Do you see Carrier playing TE, his position, if he doesn’t make WR, or strictly PS addition?
July 24th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
I dont care about stats.
As long as were winning and DHB, or anyone for that matter, is contributing at a rational price, then im all for it.
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WR position especially the number matters for a guy being your number 1 WR…..why would he stay if he gets more PT and money some place else? He is like 25 years old bruh bruh
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Strikes me as a loyal guy.
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Possibly….but Reggie strikes me as not al Davis
July 24th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 3:25 pm
Lakers looking into LeBrons step-dad Delonte West.
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Aw man thats coldest shot of the day…you’s a fool gotta watch thyself
July 24th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
TxRaider210 Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
DHB
Moore
Ford
Criner
Streater
Calhoun/McGee
Those are our WRs this season.
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Do you see Carrier playing TE, his position, if he doesn’t make WR, or strictly PS addition?
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PS guy.
He has a chance if McGee stays hurt.
I think Calhoun offers too much not to make it though.
July 24th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
Ichiro to the Yankees. Wow!
Seattle Mariners = major league baseballs farm team
July 24th, 2012 at 3:28 pm
TC MUP 2012
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B@uce: Criner
PD OchoUno: Streater
JLofty: Crawford
DAV: Calhoun
July 24th, 2012 at 3:28 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 3:25 pm
Tx210….ya know I was gonna say Burris cuz I like his aggressive and closing speed once he is locked in on a target
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All day, I hope he lights up Romo and Orton good next month, I can’t stand Jerry J or his team.lol
July 24th, 2012 at 3:28 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
I dont care about stats.
As long as were winning and DHB, or anyone for that matter, is contributing at a rational price, then im all for it.
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WR position especially the number matters for a guy being your number 1 WR…..why would he stay if he gets more PT and money some place else? He is like 25 years old bruh bruh
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Strikes me as a loyal guy.
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Possibly….but Reggie strikes me as not al Davis
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DHB on a cheap deal is no where near what Al would do.. lol.
July 24th, 2012 at 3:28 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 2:53 pm
909 you need to talk to Jhill,Oakglenn and a few others about this….I’ve been yelling for a lane clogger forever….until we have one our defense shall suck vs the run…Kelly and Seymour aint it
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Bri3n, you got that right. Having Kelly & Sey taking on blockers , hoping McWhiff is going to stop the RB is getting old. Need someone like Ivey that can blow the play up, before it has a chance to get going….
July 24th, 2012 at 3:29 pm
Im out for the day.
God Bless.
July 24th, 2012 at 3:29 pm
Durango Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
Ichiro to the Yankees. Wow!
Seattle Mariners = major league baseballs farm team
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Yeah they are….a damn joke….gonna be tough to beat them in october
July 24th, 2012 at 3:30 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 3:28 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
I dont care about stats.
As long as were winning and DHB, or anyone for that matter, is contributing at a rational price, then im all for it.
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WR position especially the number matters for a guy being your number 1 WR…..why would he stay if he gets more PT and money some place else? He is like 25 years old bruh bruh
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Strikes me as a loyal guy.
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Possibly….but Reggie strikes me as not al Davis
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DHB on a cheap deal is no where near what Al would do.. lol.
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LMAO true schit but what I meant is that Reggie aint playing sentimental favorites like Al would
July 24th, 2012 at 3:30 pm
….see ya Duece
July 24th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
I wanna go with Crawford on D and Ausberry on O. Give me something to do inAug.
PurpleDrank81, maybe we should change your screen name to 1outta30/320#whiteguysinTatumjerseysholdingabottleofgoosewalkingaroundatheoaklandcoliongameday…
Sounds like fun!
July 24th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
TxRaider210 Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
DHB
Moore
Ford
Criner
Streater
Calhoun/McGee
Those are our WRs this season.
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Do you see Carrier playing TE, his position, if he doesn’t make WR, or strictly PS addition?
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PS guy.
He has a chance if McGee stays hurt.
I think Calhoun offers too much not to make it though.
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Be nice to see him get reps at TE in pre-season, but we shall see.
July 24th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
Method, you seem to put more stock in your predictions about completely umproven, untesed players than you do in vets with stats to back them up..
July 24th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
Later DAV.
July 24th, 2012 at 3:33 pm
Criner is going to be mad dope
Working on a rhyme right now about our wide receivers and about Brian the Genital’s cousin tanking in the tourney
It’s called “Destiny”, should be huge on iTunes by the Fall
Probably buy another 91″ plasma, mo wiggity
July 24th, 2012 at 3:33 pm
Bri3n, you got that right. Having Kelly & Sey taking on blockers , hoping McWhiff is going to stop the RB is getting old. Need someone like Ivey that can blow the play up, before it has a chance to get going….
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This was my biggest problem with Al in his last years….if you dont have some guy in his 20s that is immovable and doesnt allow the center or guard to get into the 2nd level consistently your odds of stuffin the runner increases. Those 2-3 inches sometimes is enough for a little runt to dash through for a large gain….fk watching that schit anymore
July 24th, 2012 at 3:33 pm
Lane stuffers????
I’m with it.
Our young buck is going make it happen.
July 24th, 2012 at 3:35 pm
Young Lofts….you going with the penn state guy? Bold move but if we are indeed using multiple fronts I can see him playing the 5 tech well
July 24th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
J Hill Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 3:33 pm
Lane stuffers????
I’m with it.
Our young buck is going make it happen.
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OG playa…..and who exactly is that?
July 24th, 2012 at 3:37 pm
Man where da fk is my blog cousin LAtoBay?…I know you lurking waiting to show yourself as soon as August hits!
July 24th, 2012 at 3:39 pm
We need someone like ivey ? Oh hooray! We just happen to have one…
July 24th, 2012 at 3:40 pm
I forgot the youngins name, B.
Was on the PS last year.
Don’t make me look it up.
July 24th, 2012 at 3:40 pm
DHB drafted to be deep threat.
Problem is he still hasn’t shown he can make an over the shoulder grab.
Can’t be a true deep threat if you can’t catch the ball with your back to the LOS.
The good news is he appears to be a lot more reliable catching the pigskin, even if he uses his body too much and still unnecessarily leaves his feet in the process.
Tough for any corner to bring down in a one on one situation and a threat to take it to the house if he can break the tackle.
The deep threat Al envisioned ? No. Can’t see him really excelling as a posession reciever either.
But he is a player that has improved and still might blossom into an upper echelon WR that has a very productive career.
Chances are good that he outperforms Craptree, and very few pundits would have called drafting THAT diva a ‘reach’.
July 24th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
I’m really pulling for Ivey, need to see more 3-4 imo.
July 24th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
Ivey, that’s it.
I have dude in the 3 man rotation at DT.
I want Bryant to stay at LDE.
July 24th, 2012 at 3:42 pm
Marks Hair Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
Method, you seem to put more stock in your predictions about completely umproven, untesed players than you do in vets with stats to back them up..
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Oh on Criner? Ok that’s a fair thing to say to me…but on that vet with stats you speak of(DHB) has there ever been any evidence in his life that he was a poss WR?
I dont even believe Criner is a poss wr…I know it!
Homeboy knows to find spaces in the middle of zones and uses his hands and big body to make catches.
DHB is super fast
Moore is very fast
Ford is faster than them both
Criner isnt super fast but has size and route running ability
That is gonna translate better for someone like Palmer. CP needs a big target who is reliable
Rookies can come in the NFL and ball out. We got ample evidence on that.
July 24th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
J Hill Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
Ivey, that’s it.
I have dude in the 3 man rotation at DT.
I want Bryant to stay at LDE.
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So on 3rd down you suggesting
Matt Seymour Houston Bryant?
or you talking on run plays only?
July 24th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
I like DHB as a possesion WR who can get YAC.
Totally agree with you on the over the shoulder thing, 99. so why force that.
Let him make the 5-10 yd catches and use his size and speed to break thangs open?
July 24th, 2012 at 3:45 pm
Criner should end up being the missing piece for sure, best believe he’ll learn from Bartell in camp, being a very physical DB.
July 24th, 2012 at 3:45 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 3:33 pm
Criner is going to be mad dope
Working on a rhyme right now about our wide receivers and about Brian the Genital’s cousin tanking in the tourney
It’s called “Destiny”, should be huge on iTunes by the Fall
Probably buy another 91″ plasma, mo wiggity
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SMH….you gotta get a new angle Beecher…I’m feeling bad for you now
July 24th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
Let me correct myself, all of our receivers should learn from the vet DB’s who cover them.
July 24th, 2012 at 3:47 pm
J Hill Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
I like DHB as a possesion WR who can get YAC.
Totally agree with you on the over the shoulder thing, 99. so why force that.
Let him make the 5-10 yd catches and use his size and speed to break thangs open?
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Because he isnt good enough to really do what you are asking him to do…to get alot of YAC you need to catch it with your hands in stride….yes he is physical when the DBs try to tackle him but I dont see poss wr
July 24th, 2012 at 3:48 pm
There could be aspects to DHB’s game we’ve yet to see…good thing is that he seems to keep improving and working.
July 24th, 2012 at 3:49 pm
JLofty….
Put me down for Ivey…thanx…
July 24th, 2012 at 3:49 pm
I’m saying do you guys see DHB getting open even after he originally. is not open?
For instance say Palmer had to try and escape and need to make an adjustment…can DHB be relied on to comeback and know where to get open?
I dont see that
Watching Criner play college in the Pac 10/12 I know he can do that plsu he uses his hands
July 24th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
Houston-Kelly-Seymour-ShoNasty
Houston-Seymour-Ivey-ShoNasty
Bryant-Seymour-Ivey-ShoNasty
Passing downs
Bryant-Houston-Kelly-ShoNasty
or 3 DL
Seymour-Houston-Bryant with 4 LBs
July 24th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
909RaiderLifer Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 3:49 pm
JLofty….
Put me down for Ivey…thanx…
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I.E. champ with a sneaky nice move…not bad
One would think if Ivey really came in beast doesnt that make Tommy Kelly expendable and be easier to slide Seymour to UT?…we do got Bryant still to backup and that rookie DT….just saying
July 24th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
So now we got about 7 to 8 million in cap space. According to some we are potentially 10 million over the cap next year?
So are we getting ready for the cap hit next year?
Our LB and CB corps look a little thin now, but I guess we will address that next year.
Strange times for Raiders usually we are way over the top and restructure at the last minute.
I can’t think of anyone we could spend on this year.
July 24th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
From the Tea-leaves I could see a lot of heat coming from the LB position, Wheeler! Really did not have a chance to rush the passer on the Colts with Freeney and Mathis. Had some decent sack numbers in College.
July 24th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
J Hill Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
Houston-Kelly-Seymour-ShoNasty
Houston-Seymour-Ivey-ShoNasty
Bryant-Seymour-Ivey-ShoNasty
Passing downs
Bryant-Houston-Kelly-ShoNasty
or 3 DL
Seymour-Houston-Bryant with 4 LBs
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Still no speed demon off the edge enough in that man
3 DL are seymour-Houston-Bryant?
Why not have B@uce and two other semi pros lineup? lol
July 24th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
I’m saying do you guys see DHB getting open even after he originally. is not open?
For instance say Palmer had to try and escape and need to make an adjustment…can DHB be relied on to comeback and know where to get open?
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Pretty sure they work on things like that.
Probably has room to grow in that area.
July 24th, 2012 at 3:54 pm
What up B?
Looking through TMZ dot com and came across this…
NFL’R DARRIUS HEYWARD-BEY
No Jail for DUI Bust
Lol..
July 24th, 2012 at 3:54 pm
589. Of course theres evidence for dhb being a poss wr. Look at last yrs tape.. He was our chain mover. He was always open too. Dbs line up 7-10 yds off dhb all game long.. All I know about criner is that the entire league passed on him 4 times..
July 24th, 2012 at 3:54 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 3:49 pm
I’m saying do you guys see DHB getting open even after he originally. is not open?
For instance say Palmer had to try and escape and need to make an adjustment…can DHB be relied on to comeback and know where to get open?
I dont see that
Watching Criner play college in the Pac 10/12 I know he can do that plsu he uses his hands
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I see your point exactly on that, the field awareness that Criner has is key due to lack of speed, but yeah DHB does need to fine tune his stride and catching.
July 24th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
Oh…my bad
Thought they said NFL Bust!
July 24th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
I say cut Kelly
RDE…..NT….UT….LDE
Matt-Ivey-Seymour-Houston as your base
Gotta find someone to be speed rusher backing up Matt
Bryant and Bidiluki can rotate inside as can Houston slide inside and help….Tollefson I guess at times will back up both DEs or Crawford
3 man DL
Seymour Ivey Houston……thats enough beef to take up blockers and allow the back 8 to kill
July 24th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
Training Camp MUP 2012 just camp, not season, just camp
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B@uce: Criner
PD OchoUno: Streater
JLofty: Crawford
909R8rLifer: Ivey
July 24th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
J Hill Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
Houston-Kelly-Seymour-ShoNasty
Houston-Seymour-Ivey-ShoNasty
Bryant-Seymour-Ivey-ShoNasty
Passing downs
Bryant-Houston-Kelly-ShoNasty
or 3 DL
Seymour-Houston-Bryant with 4 LBs
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Still no speed demon off the edge enough in that man
3 DL are seymour-Houston-Bryant?
Why not have B@uce and two other semi pros lineup? lol
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Wait, no Tollefson in the rotation?
July 24th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
R8eray Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
Oh…my bad
Thought they said NFL Bust!
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What’s the happs? LOL funny
Whats good Ray? I know you ready now
July 24th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
He was our chain mover. He was always open too. Dbs line up 7-10 yds off dhb all game long.
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Bingo.
Maybe possesion WR was the wrong term.
Throw him 8 of those where the DB is off 7-10 yds, and let him try and break a tackle and be gone!
July 24th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
The other guy I was talking about overating with no reason was ivey.. A ps player.. Big deal. Wheres the tape to prove he’s a football player?
July 24th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
JLofty Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
Training Camp MUP 2012 just camp, not season, just camp
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B@uce: Criner
PD OchoUno: Streater
JLofty: Crawford
909R8rLifer: Ivey
Tx: Burris
July 24th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
Marks Hair Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 3:54 pm
589. Of course theres evidence for dhb being a poss wr. Look at last yrs tape.. He was our chain mover. He was always open too. Dbs line up 7-10 yds off dhb all game long.. All I know about criner is that the entire league passed on him 4 times..
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Yeah becuz of speed…which is perfect for us after drafting so many speed guys!…Thanks for playing Bucky Larsen
No he didnt show he was a poss WR…..he still cant beat elite coverage…thats what you dont get
July 24th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
Why not have B@uce and two other semi pros lineup? lol
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You up to DT weight now?
Thought you were back on the courts?
July 24th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
Yo, watching John Carter on the 91″ plasma with a few baked hizzies
Homeboy reminds me of me
Gotta rep that planet hopping swag.
Might take a little break to drop a poo bomb then get a refreshing BJ
After that, you know Papa John’s in the HOUSE
July 24th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
J Hill Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
Houston-Kelly-Seymour-ShoNasty
Houston-Seymour-Ivey-ShoNasty
Bryant-Seymour-Ivey-ShoNasty
Passing downs
Bryant-Houston-Kelly-ShoNasty
or 3 DL
Seymour-Houston-Bryant with 4 LBs
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Still no speed demon off the edge enough in that man
3 DL are seymour-Houston-Bryant?
Why not have B@uce and two other semi pros lineup? lol
I’ll take the edge, what I give up in speed, size, and talent, I more than make up for in motor…..;-)
July 24th, 2012 at 4:00 pm
Marks Hair Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
The other guy I was talking about overating with no reason was ivey.. A ps player.. Big deal. Wheres the tape to prove he’s a football player?
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Do we not need a fat ass to play NT to help plug the run?
July 24th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
JLofty Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
J Hill Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
Houston-Kelly-Seymour-ShoNasty
Houston-Seymour-Ivey-ShoNasty
Bryant-Seymour-Ivey-ShoNasty
Passing downs
Bryant-Houston-Kelly-ShoNasty
or 3 DL
Seymour-Houston-Bryant with 4 LBs
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Still no speed demon off the edge enough in that man
3 DL are seymour-Houston-Bryant?
Why not have B@uce and two other semi pros lineup? lol
I’ll take the edge, what I give up in speed, size, and talent, I more than make up for in motor…..;-)
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HAHAHA with this championship gut I’m developing I’ll play NT lmao
July 24th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
609. See you got ivey ovrr kelly for no reason other than blind hope.. Kool aid come with sweetner. You dont have to add sugar.
July 24th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
he still cant beat elite coverage…thats what you dont get
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Who is talking about him beating elite coverage?
He sure can beat that 1 on 1 coverage he’ll have with DMac on the field!
July 24th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
NOW!~ NEW BLOOD pt. 6 TAIWAN JONES
How good is Taiwan Jones? Even when he plays this season, you may not believe your eyes…
http://www.raidernationstation.com/raider_huddle
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Can U say “SPEED”?
July 24th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
Noted Texas…
July 24th, 2012 at 4:03 pm
Have a gr8 day everyone. Football soon!~
July 24th, 2012 at 4:03 pm
I like DHB as a possesion WR who can get YAC.
Totally agree with you on the over the shoulder thing, 99. so why force that.
Let him make the 5-10 yd catches and use his size and speed to break thangs open?
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Can’t really envision him as a typical possession WR bcz he doesn’t have great hands and needs to run more precise routes.
I think you’re right on the money about his greatest value being his YAC ability.
5-10 yard routes might not be his cup of tea either.
His best plays will come when he drives the corner about 15 yards and comes back. That enables him to face the QB, which is key to him making a grab, and puts him in position to break the recovering corner’s tackle.
Something similar to his TD in Houston which was mighty sweet.
July 24th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
J Hill Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
Why not have B@uce and two other semi pros lineup? lol
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You up to DT weight now?
Thought you were back on the courts?
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Yeah the comeback will have to halt my brutha….me and Kaiser Permanente have a date…knee all messed up…was runnin full and cocky ass skinny 19 year old about 6′6 was trash talking before so B@uce digs in and balls all game doing the old school on the youngsta…well when it was game point I dribble left and rose up for a jumper…came down…..not cool not cool at all….yeah I missed the shot lol and had to excuse myself from game…….awww im just not 18 anymore….sighs
July 24th, 2012 at 4:05 pm
I never said dhb was elite.. I said what makes you “know” criner is better than dhb. And that dhb had tape already showing him as our poss wr. He was our top wr last yr and he obviously wasnt our deep threat…
July 24th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
Marks Hair Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
609. See you got ivey ovrr kelly for no reason other than blind hope.. Kool aid come with sweetner. You dont have to add sugar.
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You moron Kelly has been here how many seasons? and of those seasons how many times did Raiders stop the run?
As far as being a run stuffer…Ivey has done the same as Kelly…plus he is younger….a NT in his 20s vs a loser in his 30s?
July 24th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
Marks Hair Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 4:05 pm
I never said dhb was elite.. I said what makes you “know” criner is better than dhb. And that dhb had tape already showing him as our poss wr. He was our top wr last yr and he obviously wasnt our deep threat…
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You moron not once have we seen DHB be a possession WR lol
Our best WR was Dmoore
Scroll up I already told why I think Criner is a better poss wr
July 24th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
I just a little confused with the cap space we have now. (7 to 8 million I believe; after trading Murph, and signing Branch long term)
We let Bush walk for a contract worth about 3.5 million a year (14 mil for about 4 years). MacFadden’s only back-up is Goodson.
I guess our cap situation was really out of wack coming in and this was our only way to reduce cap space and Michael Bush was just a casualty of that situation.
Or maybe Reggie just saw that with the situation the way it was last year he had to wash his hands of the cap situation this year and position himself to make some noise in 2013.
July 24th, 2012 at 4:08 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
Marks Hair Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
609. See you got ivey ovrr kelly for no reason other than blind hope.. Kool aid come with sweetner. You dont have to add sugar.
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You moron Kelly has been here how many seasons? and of those seasons how many times did Raiders stop the run?
As far as being a run stuffer…Ivey has done the same as Kelly…plus he is younger….a NT in his 20s vs a loser in his 30s?
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If TK would only attend my upcoming cheeseburger picnic, RM would be sure to cut his fat azz on the spot.
July 24th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
Mark’s Hair,
dude its July. you forget to take your metamucil this am? No one on here called for Ivey to make the probowl, we’re just getting fired up for camp.
It’s fun! You should try it!
It’s easy too, you start with a little koolaid, then take a tiny dash of hope, mix with an even tinier amount of actual football knowledge, then BAM! You got a 3rd stringer your calling for taking on a greater role in the new version of YOUR OAKLAND RAIDERS!!!
Try it grumpy, give me your pick for MUP in camp…
July 24th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
J Hill Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
he still cant beat elite coverage…thats what you dont get
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Who is talking about him beating elite coverage?
He sure can beat that 1 on 1 coverage he’ll have with DMac on the field!
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DMAC has nada to do with him on the island vs a top elite CB….we need to be able to have a guy who can whip them…DHB not it and by your own admission basically he cant
July 24th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
You need to scroll up meth ..lol
July 24th, 2012 at 4:11 pm
JLofty Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
Mark’s Hair,
dude its July. you forget to take your metamucil this am? No one on here called for Ivey to make the probowl, we’re just getting fired up for camp.
It’s fun! You should try it!
It’s easy too, you start with a little koolaid, then take a tiny dash of hope, mix with an even tinier amount of actual football knowledge, then BAM! You got a 3rd stringer your calling for taking on a greater role in the new version of YOUR OAKLAND RAIDERS!!!
Try it grumpy, give me your pick for MUP in camp…
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Nothing more to say now
On that note…time to go and get somewhere and watch the A’s play….just win and just a few more days til Napa….get fired up….CODE BLACK 2012
July 24th, 2012 at 4:11 pm
…….awww im just not 18 anymore….sighs
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My last day on the court, shredded my knee up, and my boy torn his patella.
SAME effin day, mayne I was 36, he was 45.
Been golfin our arsses off ever since, lol!
July 24th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
Is Goodson > Bush?
July 24th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
Mark why do I need to scroll up?
I laid out why Criner is a poss WR and why he is better suited for that role…..try again and talk to me tomorrow
July 24th, 2012 at 4:13 pm
634. I dont have a third stringer taking on a starting role.. The starters will start untill the injuries come… Thats the only way ivey or criner start this yr.. Burris too..
July 24th, 2012 at 4:14 pm
raidertalk Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
Is Goodson > Bush?
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Overall, I say yes, based on versatility but needs to hold the rock better.
July 24th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
640. You told me about college highlights.. He was picked in rd 5. Try again bud.. You never heard of criner till ee drafted him.
July 24th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
Okay Mark’s gunna make you the Mope. No fun in July guy…
July 24th, 2012 at 4:16 pm
@raidertalk
Seems like Reggie was shocked that Bush signed such a small contract, but said they couldn’t aford it anyways. Maybe he just didn’t have faith in the Bush.
July 24th, 2012 at 4:17 pm
TC MUP 2012
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B@uce: Criner
PD OchoUno: Streater
JLofty: Crawford
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Whats up my buds B@uce and Lofty! Been out in the empty desert of Nevada fiming a movie.. Just found out about Murph.. Plunk picks:
Burris
July 24th, 2012 at 4:17 pm
*filming
July 24th, 2012 at 4:19 pm
What does MUP stand for again?
July 24th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
Marks hair Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 4:13 pm
634. I dont have a third stringer taking on a starting role.. The starters will start untill the injuries come… Thats the only way ivey or criner start this yr.. Burris too..
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Maybe so, but Curry’s knees were sore at OTA’s, Ford and Moore missed time last year…could be sooner for Burris and Criner.jmo
July 24th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
I dont know what mup means.. Underated? But id say dhb, moore, and t.jones will show improvement.. I was just giving meth shlt because he was jocking all the rookies..
July 24th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
While everyone is talking about DMoore, DHB and Criner, I’m expecting Jacoby Ford to have a great year.
Yeah, I’m as pissed off as anyone about his New Year’s Eve crap, but I think he’s going to prove to be our best deep threat.
I can also see him FINISHING plays like the one he hurt himself on, in SD.
Won’t be surprised if he leads the Raid WRs in TDs.
July 24th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
Sup Plunk?! Fliming in the dessert huh?
Tough few weeks to have been doing that. Hope ya got/had air conditioner…
July 24th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
For me, less news in camp is good news to me, and hopefully fewer injuries. Some sports guys have to play hurt to get the job done, the mind-set of “if a bone aint stickin out, I’m playing”lol
July 24th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
640. You told me about college highlights.. He was picked in rd 5. Try again bud.. You never heard of criner till ee drafted him.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9I4INoJmJfk
Sick Highlights…Mark Inspired me to look them up.
July 24th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
I think it’s going top be a different WR each week. Going to all depend on who gets the single coverage.
Moore, Ford, and DHB can all pile up yards on 1 play.
Going to be hard for Criner and Streater to get on the field outside of injury.
Criner MIGHT get mixed in.
July 24th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
July 24th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
Training Camp MUP 2012 just camp, not season, just camp
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B@uce: Criner
PD OchoUno: Streater
JLofty: Crawford
909R8rLifer: Ivey
Tx: Burris
Plunk4HOF: Burris
July 24th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
I heard a lot about Criner cause so many Pac10 people around. He will get in the mix sooner rather than later. If he stays healthy and gets the offense down, he will make some noise. Too big and strong not to. We need a possession guy, the spot is there for the takin…
July 24th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
Ive seen em. He can catch.. But can he beet press coverage against nfl dbs? Nobody knows… I was just giving meth a hard time about his fortune telling.. I mean criner has to pass steater, ford, moore & dhb.. Thats what meth was predicting.. I was just asking why so confident? Sounds like kool aid talk..
July 24th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
Although with the new CB rules, it might be harder for defensive guys to light people up in camp
July 24th, 2012 at 4:33 pm
Criner has the Pre-season to make his case. If he can light up there, like he did in OTA’s he cold force his way into the mix.
July 24th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
Shancoe sign with the Patsies ?
Guess they didn’t have enough TEs already.
July 24th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
JLofty Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
I heard a lot about Criner cause so many Pac10 people around. He will get in the mix sooner rather than later. If he stays healthy and gets the offense down, he will make some noise. Too big and strong not to. We need a possession guy, the spot is there for the takin…
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Yep..nice pick man going with Crawford, kid seems to be humble and appreciate playing, like Burris and Criner.
July 24th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
Shancoe sign with the Patsies ?
Guess they didn’t have enough TEs already.
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Classic BB schit, take em so nobody else can.
July 24th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
I’m looking forward to seeing Stupar, Crawford and Powell on the field together in pre-season.
July 24th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
I hate Bilicheat!@
July 24th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
Guess they didn’t have enough TEs already.
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They have 6 TEs instead of 6 WRs.
July 24th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
KrappyRat, you just missed your grandson Brian the Genital
He wants to take you to Raider training camp for a little family bonding time this year
It’ll also keep you from stalking poor Bubba Paris for a while
Keep it real, old fool
July 24th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
Thanks Texas. I think the idea of camp MUP is going to be choosing someone who is going to rise up. Go from not making the final roster to second string. Or from deep on the depth chart to on the verge of becoming a regular contributor. Kind of thing.
So we need a pass rusher on the edge. Crawford’s got a big motor, might have been a high draft pick for a MUP but….
I just want to have some fun with Raiders…I am ready!
July 24th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
KrappyRat, you just missed your grandson Brian the Genital
He wants to take you to Raider training camp for a little family bonding time this year
It’ll also keep you from stalking poor Bubba Paris for a while
Keep it real, old fool
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What have you been doing today, fking your hand, and taking notes who’s been in here today?
Get a Life, handfkr.
July 24th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
Krappy, that reminds me -
You ran away yesterday before telling us all how much you hate name calling
Now’s your big chance to redeem yourself, old troll
Or are you going to head for the hills again?
July 24th, 2012 at 4:54 pm
JLofty Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
Thanks Texas. I think the idea of camp MUP is going to be choosing someone who is going to rise up. Go from not making the final roster to second string. Or from deep on the depth chart to on the verge of becoming a regular contributor. Kind of thing.
So we need a pass rusher on the edge. Crawford’s got a big motor, might have been a high draft pick for a MUP but….
I just want to have some fun with Raiders…I am ready!
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I hear that man, I’m looking for Burris and Criner to make plays, and hoping TP can throw well and break off runs.
July 24th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
TE V. Shiancoe (or however you spell it) just signed with New England for 1.2 mill.
so we can take that FA off Reggie’s list.
July 24th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
Rise up outta nowhere type player?
The undrafted rookie S from Wisonsin, I believe.
Henry?
July 24th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
Pryor has a shot at being camp MUP.
I think most would agree it we be a HUGE move for him if he took the number two spot behind center. Huge.
He might be fun to watch.
Also the young TE’s have a chance to be MUP. I don’t think Myers has a lock on that starting gig….
July 24th, 2012 at 5:02 pm
That is outta nowhere JHill. I am not up to speed on the UDFAs. I was busy during most of the OTAs and the coverage was spotty at best…
July 24th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
Aaron Henry will make the team, have an impact on STs, and earn playing time as the #3 S.
July 24th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
Tebow will return kicks for the Jets?
July 24th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
Can almost hear old KrappyRat waddling that oversized rear end up a hillside in Alameda
Poor panicked old troll
Will slither back into the blog in a few hours, hoping everyone forgot he ran away … again
BEEECH DIGGITY N FULL EFFECT
July 24th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
To borrow the ole “I hope I’m wrong” cliche …
I hope I’m wrong about my concerns with Pryor’s ability to throw the ball.
Our offense would be unreal with that guy if he could be an accurate passer.
July 24th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
J Hill Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
To borrow the ole “I hope I’m wrong” cliche …
I hope I’m wrong about my concerns with Pryor’s ability to throw the ball.
Our offense would be unreal with that guy if he could be an accurate passer.
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No kidding man, that would be somethin else..
July 24th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
I’m out, have a good one gents!
July 24th, 2012 at 5:11 pm
I’m hoping that one of the Raider linebackers is MUP in camp. We really need to see some improvement in that area!
July 24th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
Thankfully none of you have any say over who makes the team or plays.Cut DHB?Cut Kelly?You are out of your phucking minds.Kelly was unquestionably our best DL last season.DHB was our best WR.Moore made some fantastic plays,but DHB was there almost every game and was the most consistent WR on the team while Moore was often hurt.Complaining about DHB’s hands is also ludicrous.While he did drop way too many balls as a rookie,last year that was not a problem.EVERY WR in the game drops one once in a while.
July 24th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
Been able to play any golf lately, Lefty?
July 24th, 2012 at 5:37 pm
No wonder DHB can’t catch the ball.
He’s hungover.
July 24th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
Haven’t played in too long-since the US Open.Just returned from 3 weeks of taking out our RV-a 5th wheel.Did a whole lot of fly-fishing.I worked as a volunteer at the Open in SF and was able to get out 3 times that week.Maybe later this week,next week for sure.
July 24th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
676.J Hill Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
Aaron Henry will make the team, have an impact on STs, and earn playing time as the #3 S.
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Awhile back I read up on the dude and watched his highlights. Been playing football his whole life and loves the game. The only reason I think he went undrafted is because he’s not the big hit type….he takes your legs out. Which is kind of smart if you have to tackle a back or TE. Also much more effective than the ‘ol one arm tackle. Guaranteed he won’t over pursue looking for a big hit like MM34.
I also like Chaz Powell, but he’s been more of a jack of all trades player. Could make the PS and developed into a SS.
July 24th, 2012 at 5:59 pm
I can’t understand why so many fans continue to dislike/hate players on their team because they didn’t want them drafted.Take DHB for instance.Most didn’t want/like his selection so they continue to dislike the guy and nitpick everything he does.He is a Raider guys.He is on our team.Shouldn’t you be rooting for the guy instead of coming on a blog,throwing out BS,and keep trying to convince others he is a terrible player and wasted pick?He isn’t the only one,just an example.I don’t think Curry is that good,but because he wears the Silver and Black I root like hell for the guy.
July 24th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
Camp co-MUP’s Criner/Burris
July 24th, 2012 at 6:21 pm
On another note,right now the Rangers,Angels,and A’s would make the play-offs.Don’t you think the powers that be(Comm. Bud) would be pissed if 3 AL West teams made it and the Boston’s or TB’s didn’t?
July 24th, 2012 at 6:25 pm
A 3 RBI single from Cespedes.
You don’t see too many of those.
July 24th, 2012 at 6:28 pm
Where the hell was the 1st base coach?He could have crawled to 2nd-nobody was there.
July 24th, 2012 at 6:33 pm
Well Cespedes is a little prone to getting his victory stroll on the bases, but if he keeps bashing the ball, you gladly put up with it.
July 24th, 2012 at 6:38 pm
Not gladly,but I will put up with it.He’s too young for that sh!t.
July 24th, 2012 at 6:39 pm
YO DUDES
just popped a duece so big I almost had my girlfreind call a fire truck. that dog log was a biggun. me and my girlfriend aint got nuthin to hide.
FA SHIZZLE DA WIZZLE FO HIZZLE
July 24th, 2012 at 6:51 pm
Ichiro to the Yankees. Whats next, the Huskies wanna go pro?
July 24th, 2012 at 7:03 pm
Well the last time you guys traded with the Yanks, you sent over a 21 year old pitcher who was already damaged goods (kudo’s on that one).
So don’t write this off as a lose-lose so quickly.
July 24th, 2012 at 7:16 pm
672-he wasn’t on Reggie’s list,otherwise we would have offered him something.He was only on the list of some of those on here who have no faith in the young players on our roster.
July 24th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
Lefty 12,
I feel Bey was a wasted pick. Dude can’t really catch or screen the defender so he can get major yards if he does catch the ball. Bey is a typical demented pick of AD with a $25M dollar contract.
Posters resent Bey because we feel he didn’t need to be trained. Look at Moore, Ford and now Criner. We dont need to train them basic moves and they flourished in their first season (Moore and Ford).
Reggie picked up Criner for nothing. Andrew Luck only received $22M for a 4 yr contract while Bey the Schlub got more for insubstantial performance.
Remember, recipients of high priced, ridiculous contracts who don’t perform go from being worshipped to hated. I don’t count Bey gaining over 900 yds as anything since he only scored 3 TDs.
Jerry Rice in his 3rd season gained 1061 yds with 16 TDs.
Too bad a gust of wind didn’t blow Bey off the bay bridge.
If I was Reggie, and Bey underperformed next season, I would release him at the end of season, along with the slug Seymour.
July 24th, 2012 at 7:18 pm
So far, The Reggie doesn’t seem too interested in the more “higher” profile FA’s at their position.
He went with the Wheeler, Bartell, and Toffelson’s of the NFL world.
July 24th, 2012 at 7:23 pm
.He was only on the list of some of those on here who have no faith in the young players on our roster.
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Agreed!
Our TE crew is outstanding, imo.
Young? Yeah, but talent wise, what are we missing?
Beast of a blocker in Gordon.
Ausberry and Reece as receiving threats.
Meyers – jack of all trades.
July 24th, 2012 at 7:30 pm
699-your opinion which I happen to totally disagree with.DHB was our most consistent and best WR last year and if you watched all the games you’d be hard pressed to argue that point.He didn’t draft himself so blame the old man not him.He didn’t give himself the contract,so blame the old man not him.He has worked his a$$ off to get better every year and has done so.Criner hasn’t even participated in a contact drill.Get real and wait until he proves he can even make the team before anointing him the next Chris Carter.BTW,DHB does just fine catching the ball,even if you don’t like the WAY he catches it.
July 24th, 2012 at 7:44 pm
J Hill,if you are ever up north near SF don’t play the Presido in SF.They screwed us big time the week of the Open.We made tee times 30 days in advance and the rates were in the $70 range with a $5 fee for early times.When we checked in they charged us $160 per and said if we didn’t want to pay and play they already had the credit card # and would charge us for a foursome.We weren’t given any notice of the rate change.
July 24th, 2012 at 7:49 pm
Then one old mother-phucking marshall hassled us because we weren’t keeping up with the twosome in front of us(they were 1 hole ahead of us at 17).
July 24th, 2012 at 7:51 pm
Ouch!
July 24th, 2012 at 7:52 pm
LOL!
July 24th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
SF, eh?
Probably a bunch of 9r fans effin with ya.
July 24th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
The areas that concern me are Oline depth and nickel DEs.
July 24th, 2012 at 8:01 pm
Lefty you’re right regarding Reggie’s list vs ours.
July 24th, 2012 at 8:02 pm
The battle between Carlisle and the rookie Berg will be interesting and something to watch in camp.When the old man was in charge you could bet CC would start the year with the rookie slowly being phased in.Wonder if that will still be the norm.
July 24th, 2012 at 8:07 pm
Anyone know why Criner is the rookie drafted after the 3rd round has not signed yet?
Trade him to Minnesota if he’s holding out.
July 24th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
RR,hell,I’m right about everything-LOL.Just kidding.The thing is I realize what I and others believe at times isn’t even close to what the powers that be in the org. believe and I don’t think I know more than they do-like some others.
July 24th, 2012 at 8:10 pm
If I had been in the war room back in 2009, I would have NEVER drafted DHB in the first round. Now, having said that, I’ve got to tip my hat to the young man — he has shown steady improvement and I think he will emerge as the #1 and Moore will be the #2. Criner will battle for the #3 spot, but he has got to sign and then produce before we can say anything more. Training camp starts soon – for the first time in a LONG time, we’ll go into camp without having to wonder how long before Schilens goes down again!
July 24th, 2012 at 8:11 pm
#710 – I believe that Coop will be our opening day starter, but wouldn’t be surprised if Bergstrom takes over by the time we come out of the bye week.
July 24th, 2012 at 8:17 pm
lefty12 Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 7:30 pm
699-your opinion which I happen to totally disagree with.DHB was our most consistent and best WR last year and if you watched all the games you’d be hard pressed to argue that point.He didn’t draft himself so blame the old man not him.He didn’t give himself the contract,so blame the old man not him.He has worked his a$$ off to get better every year and has done so.Criner hasn’t even participated in a contact drill.Get real and wait until he proves he can even make the team before anointing him the next Chris Carter.BTW,DHB does just fine catching the ball,even if you don’t like the WAY he catches it.
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Lefty,
You may be correct; we’ll see this season!
July 24th, 2012 at 8:22 pm
Why move Coop to RG if he was good enough to start?
Why not just sign a LG or have the new guy play LG?
I’d be disappointed if the rookie couldn’t win a starting spot at frickin OG.
July 24th, 2012 at 8:26 pm
This might be a stupid question because I’m overlooking someone,but who will be the BU Center?IIMO,Berg will win the starting LG spot and CC will be BU at both guard positions.Either Barnes or Barksdale will be BU for both tackle spots.Who backs-up Wiz?
July 24th, 2012 at 8:32 pm
Parsons?
July 24th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
lefty12 Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 8:26 pm
This might be a stupid question because I’m overlooking someone,but who will be the BU Center?
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Alex Parsons with Colin Miller as the upstart trying to win the position.
July 24th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
Parsons was taking snaps at center with the 1st team in mini camp.
July 24th, 2012 at 8:36 pm
I totally forgot about him.He can also fill in at G if I’m not mistaken.
July 24th, 2012 at 8:36 pm
yup.
July 24th, 2012 at 8:42 pm
Another question…
Didn’t Pollack say that he can only suit up 7 o-linemen? So, starting 5 and two bu’s.
July 24th, 2012 at 8:42 pm
Colin Miller is kind of an intriguing prospect. He was the Virginia state wrestling champ, and I think had 30+ reps at 225. Started something like 40 straight games in the MAC at center. Still a long shot tho. Lucas Nix is another player I like along the Oline but he is most likely a guard prospect.
July 24th, 2012 at 8:43 pm
Will the LBers be Wheeler-McClain-Curry with Burris coming in when we go 3-4,or will Burris or even Goethel take one of the starting spots?To me this unit has the most question marks along with who will start at the corners.Camp should be fun and interesting.
July 24th, 2012 at 8:49 pm
I love our depth along the Oline even though they are mostly young,unproven players.To me the starters are as good as anyones in the league except for possibly RT.
July 24th, 2012 at 8:49 pm
In an interview with Nathen Stupar he said the Raiders want him to learn to play MLB/ILB. Just another twist in whats going to happen.
July 24th, 2012 at 8:52 pm
Could it be we might see more 3-4 alignments earlier than we anticipate?
July 24th, 2012 at 8:53 pm
Now I remember. Pollack said they moved Bergstrom to LG because they need him to learn the position. Bergstrom can already play RT, but since they can only suit up seven OL, They need the rotation. I think. The interview went something like that.
July 24th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
Doesn’t it seem Berg is slated to play guard?Or do you think he is being penciled in as a BU for both G and T?
July 24th, 2012 at 9:04 pm
5 days before the team reports and there are only a couple of people here discussing the upcoming camp and team.As Arte Johnson used to say-”Very interesting”.
July 24th, 2012 at 9:05 pm
I think Bergstrom will play a back roll for now. If Coops age starts to show or if Barnes chokes. Barks can play LT if Veldeer has to move to center.
If the Raiders only do suit up 7 I’m thinking
Veldeer
Coops
Wiz
Briesel
Barns
Bergstrom/BU
Barksdale/Bu
But I’m not certain if 7 is the magic number. I could be completly wrong.
July 24th, 2012 at 9:08 pm
lefty12 Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 8:43 pm
Will the LBers be Wheeler-McClain-Curry with Burris coming in when we go 3-4,or will Burris or even Goethel take one of the starting spots?To me this unit has the most question marks along with who will start at the corners.Camp should be fun and interesting.
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Everything depends on how McCheese plays. I’m hoping for more 3-4 than 4-3. I want to see McCheese & Curry in the middle with Wheeler & Burris as OLB. If either McCheese or Curry falter, Goethal will step inside. In the 4-3 Alignment I expect to see McCheese as MLB and wheeler at SSLB. The wild card is at WSLB. It can be Burris, Curry or Goethal. Actually, any of the 3 could also play inside if necessary which is good versatility.
O-line wise I expect Bergstrom to push Carlisle out of OLG. If not Bergstrom then Barksdale, Wang or one of the other BU’s to roll into the starting role. Carlisle is no longer a starter and he may not even make it through camp. Our 2012 O-line will be one of our strengths this year. It’s about time.
July 24th, 2012 at 9:09 pm
I’m Listening. http://www.nfl.com/teams/oaklandraiders/depthchart?team=OAK
July 24th, 2012 at 9:13 pm
One of Coops strengths is the ZBS, who knows…he might have one more year. Added bonus with him is near zero penalties.
July 24th, 2012 at 9:15 pm
Here’s CBS prediction of the depth chart
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/depth-chart/OAK/oakland-raiders
July 24th, 2012 at 9:24 pm
The Raiders are one of only two teams who are starting camp on July 30th.
Most teams start either Thursday or Friday this week.
July 24th, 2012 at 9:31 pm
JB,the thing with CC is he is a good,vet BU at the minimum at both G positions.I’d like to see a youngster take his starting spot,but he is valuable as a BU.That is unless a young guy steps up and totally out preforms him in camp.
KK-depth charts before camp begins are pretty much useless when determining the final picture,don’t you agree?
July 24th, 2012 at 9:33 pm
711.RaiderRetribution Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 8:07 pm
Anyone know why Criner is the rookie drafted after the 3rd round has not signed yet?
Trade him to Minnesota if he’s holding out.
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I find that to be irritating. Maybe he has Scott Boras as his agent.
A rookie makes a couple of nice catches at a mini-camp w/o pads and all of a sudden he’s Jerry fricken Rice.
July 24th, 2012 at 9:35 pm
739-Especially since rookie contracts are more or less determined by where they are drafted and he gets what others drafted at the same time get.
July 24th, 2012 at 9:41 pm
Is Curry a lock?He couldn’t cut it in Seattle and I see him as a 1 trick pony-much like Wimbley was.We’ve loaded up with young LBers plus Wheeler.I realize he is a favorite on here,but wonder if he is really a lock.
July 24th, 2012 at 9:42 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 9:15 pm
Here’s CBS prediction of the depth chart
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/depth-chart/OAK/oakland-raiders
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WTF our two best players hands down, DMoore and DMAC are injured? This is not good, period. Without those two playing every Sunday, we’re screwed. Palmer will not have a legit ground attack and therefore have to go to the passing game, predictable, and not have the best WR on the field. Sh*t this does not look good. That is effed up. I hope they are ready to play or RegMac and Allen better be able to make something happen.
July 24th, 2012 at 9:42 pm
Somebody above asked about out of nowhere players who will make an impact. I’ll give you three: Travis Ivey, DT; Eddie McGee, WR; andConroy Black, CB.
July 24th, 2012 at 9:43 pm
I also think we should sign ShocKey.
July 24th, 2012 at 9:50 pm
Chris,why,he is through.
July 24th, 2012 at 9:55 pm
I was wondering if it’s possible that Reggie senses he has a real stud (Criner) and wants to lock him up for 4 yrs. or something, and maybe his agent is balking at that?
July 24th, 2012 at 9:58 pm
Criner, Burris, and TP.
Go Aztecs!
Go Bucks!
July 24th, 2012 at 10:02 pm
WTF our two best players hands down, DMoore and DMAC are injured?
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If u notice though, that injury “report” was dated May 12 for DMAC and June 12 for Moore and DA said they’ll both be fine and ready for camp.
July 24th, 2012 at 10:04 pm
While Corkran and the experts on here have been talking about how great Criner is,didn’t our HC also single out Streater as standing out during the workouts?Maybe the staff is just as high on him and reluctant to give Criner too much.Wouldn’t it be nice to be a fly on the wall and have the inside view on their thinking?
July 24th, 2012 at 10:07 pm
Lefty12 Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 8:52 pm
Could it be we might see more 3-4 alignments earlier than we anticipate?
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I think so. Pat Kirwan reported that Seymour dropped 10 – 15 pounds this offseason so he could play 3-4 DE. Also, Allen and Tarver are specifically denying there’s going to be any real “base” set we’ll be running. Sounds like it could be 50-50 between the two.
July 24th, 2012 at 10:11 pm
Criner is the ONLY 5th rd. pick to not sign as yet. In fact, there are not even any 4th rounders that haven’t signed yet and less than a handful of 3rd rounders that haven’t signed.
If he doesn’t sign, he can’t even participate in camp per CBA rules.
July 24th, 2012 at 10:12 pm
Is Curry a lock?He couldn’t cut it in Seattle and I see him as a 1 trick pony-much like Wimbley was.We’ve loaded up with young LBers plus Wheeler.I realize he is a favorite on here,but wonder if he is really a lock.
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Palmer, DMAC, Wiz, Veldheer, Mike B, Seymour, TK, Houston, Matt, Huff, Branch, Jano, Lechler, and McClain (the best LB on our roster) are locks IMO. Open competition at every other position.
July 24th, 2012 at 10:15 pm
IMO,that is one of the reasons our defense will be MUCH improved this year.We are going to vary things sooooooooooo much,opponents will have difficulty figuring out what the hell we will do next.We are going to force OCs to earn their money this year.Hopefully we don’t also confuse our own players.
July 24th, 2012 at 10:17 pm
Projected Defensive Sets:
4-3
Houston Seymour Kelly Shaughnessy
Wheeler McClain Curry
3-4
Seymour Ivey Shaughnessy
Wheeler McClain Curry Burris
July 24th, 2012 at 10:18 pm
Whut up Hoe!!!
“O” the Hoe!!!
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Raider O Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 9:58 pm
Criner, Burris, and TP.
Go Aztecs!
Go Bucks!
July 24th, 2012 at 10:20 pm
I expect Reggie will get Criner and Bergstrom done in the next couple days.
Wouldn’t u know the Raiders would have the lowest round guy in the entire draft to have not signed.
July 24th, 2012 at 10:20 pm
3-4 is looking better already!
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RaiderDuck Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 10:17 pm
Projected Defensive Sets:
4-3
Houston Seymour Kelly Shaughnessy
Wheeler McClain Curry
3-4
Seymour Ivey Shaughnessy
Wheeler McClain Curry Burris
July 24th, 2012 at 10:23 pm
Why is the nation so reluctant to mention and give Goethel any credit?Every staff has talked him up until he’s gotten injured.Or is it the fact he has gotten injured every year?If the man can stay healthy,a big if,shouldn’t he get some consideration?
July 24th, 2012 at 10:30 pm
Lefty12 Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 10:23 pm
Why is the nation so reluctant to mention and give Goethel any credit? Every staff has talked him up until he’s gotten injured. Or is it the fact he has gotten injured every year? If the man can stay healthy, a big if, shouldn’t he get some consideration?
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In the 3-4 scenario I listed above, I thought about putting him in, but Curry just seemed more likely (and it would get Burris on the field as well). Goethel would probably be the primary inside backup LB.
The reason I now see us playing a lot more 3-4 is that Kirwan report I mentioned earlier. Seymour’s never more than OK against the run at DT, and losing 15 pounds will make him even worse over the course of a game. I originally thought 3-4 alignments would be more of a gimmick, but they’re not going to make our star DT shrink for the sake of a gimmick. This also means that DA and Tarver must absolutely LOVE Ivey.
July 24th, 2012 at 10:35 pm
Whut up Beyotch?
LOL
I’m glad you jad fun. Ville = Victorville?
July 24th, 2012 at 10:41 pm
Give Goethel credit?! What did he do to earn credit? He was injured the last 2 seasons.
July 24th, 2012 at 10:41 pm
Lefty,
For me it’s the injury thing with Goethel.
July 24th, 2012 at 10:41 pm
Duck,I don’t see Seymour as our star DT.Kellly has outplayed him every year he has been here even if Rich gets the accolades from the Pro Bowl voters.
July 24th, 2012 at 10:43 pm
DJ,that is a valid point and I understand it.
July 24th, 2012 at 10:44 pm
Goethel will compete IMO, and I think he has potential (based on what the coaches said about him), but he has to prove he can stay healthy.
July 24th, 2012 at 10:46 pm
Not to beat the Criner thing to death but at # 168 in the draft the nearest guy to not have signed is # 93 Brandon Thompson from Cincinnati.
July 24th, 2012 at 10:48 pm
DJ,if he signs all the better.If he doesn’t want to play-screw him.
July 24th, 2012 at 10:50 pm
Lefty12 Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 10:41 pm
Duck, I don’t see Seymour as our star DT. Kelly has outplayed him every year he has been here even if Rich gets the accolades from the Pro Bowl voters.
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Still: whether you view Seymour or Kelly as the better player, you don’t ask a starting DT to lose 15 pounds for 3-4 DE unless you’re planning on using that formation a lot (40% or more of defensive snaps).
July 24th, 2012 at 10:51 pm
Lefty,
I will say that we’ve definitely heard alot of real good things about Goethel and it would be awesome if he stays healthy and plays like the coaches think he can.
With a healthy Goethel and Schaughnessy…who knows how they might impact the D.
July 24th, 2012 at 10:52 pm
4-3:
LDE: Houston
DT: Seymour/ Bryant
DT: TK/ Bryant
RDE: Shaughnessy
OLB: Wheeler/ Burris
MLB: McClain
OLB: Curry
July 24th, 2012 at 10:53 pm
You have to wonder if the guy who was a 5th round pick gives us this much trouble as a rookie,what will happen in the future IF he turns into a good pro player.
July 24th, 2012 at 10:54 pm
Lefty12 Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 10:53 pm
You have to wonder if the guy who was a 5th round pick gives us this much trouble as a rookie, what will happen in the future IF he turns into a good pro player.
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I doubt it’s Criner. More likely it’s his PITA agent. They’ll get a deal done before camp, no worries.
July 24th, 2012 at 10:54 pm
Is it “Guh-thel” or “Gethil”? I need to pronounce his name right and spell Shonasty’s name right.
Maybe best to stick with “Shonasty”.
July 24th, 2012 at 10:55 pm
Duck,maybe they just plan on moving him back outside with Ivey and Bryant or someone else being in the middle along with Kelly.
July 24th, 2012 at 10:57 pm
3-4:
LE: Houston
NT: TK (not ny preference)
RE: Seymour
OLB: Shaughnessy/ Tollefson
ILB: McClain
ILB: Curry/ Wheeler/ Goethel
OLB: Burris
July 24th, 2012 at 10:59 pm
Lefty12 Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 10:55 pm
Duck, maybe they just plan on moving him back outside with Ivey and Bryant or someone else being in the middle along with Kelly.
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Could be. We’ll find out definitively starting Monday. This year’s Raiders defense is going to be unlike any Raiders defense ever.
July 24th, 2012 at 10:59 pm
As a rookie 5th rd pick I’d tell my agent he’d better get a deal done.It isn’t like he was a 1st or 2nd rd pick with some leverage.5th rd picks aren’t locks to make a team.
July 24th, 2012 at 11:01 pm
I’m not sold on our CBs. I hope we can use the cap space to sign another vet CB.
July 24th, 2012 at 11:02 pm
Duck,that is one of the reasons this years camp will be more interesting than most we’ve ever seen although I doubt we see everything during the practice games.
July 24th, 2012 at 11:04 pm
DJ-I believe it is Goe-thel.
July 24th, 2012 at 11:26 pm
With the new CBA, it’s a wonder there are ANY unsigned draft picks at this stage and is a little concerning. A little…I’m sure it’ll get done in time.
July 24th, 2012 at 11:30 pm
Interesting how folks (fans and analysts alike) fail to see a good thing in the making. Here we have DMoore and DHB coming into their own with a QB like Palmer, and yet there are questions about our receiving core and ludricrous suggestions of signing clowns like TO. LOL. SMH. You folks just watch as these 2 take care of business.
July 24th, 2012 at 11:32 pm
Analysts…I almost laughed as I read over my post. Is there such a thing? Guess that’s why many like to refer to them as talking heads. That’s all they are after all.
July 24th, 2012 at 11:45 pm
TSR,didn’t you see where earlier today many on here were stating DHB would be the 4th or 5th WR by next year-that is if he is even still on the team.According to them he can’t catch and he can’t get open.Makes one wonder how he caught over 60 passes and was just short of a 1000 yds last year.
July 24th, 2012 at 11:48 pm
File this under “I hope I’m wrong”:
But I get a bad feeling about this Criner guy, similar to the feeling I got when we hired Huebris. In non-contact? drills he did good, the coaches and some local press started talking him up and then BooM! The 5th rounder does not want to sign a contract! Does he think he is the next Jerry friggin Rice?
A 5th rounder does not sign with the team?
The whole damn thing smells of Keyshaun type DIVA situation on our hands.
Do we have the first “Bad character” Raider of the Reggie era?
July 24th, 2012 at 11:49 pm
Lefty12 Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 11:45 pm
TSR,didn’t you see where earlier today many on here were stating DHB would be the 4th or 5th WR by next year-that is if he is even still on the team.According to them he can’t catch and he can’t get open
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Didn’t read through all the comments but that is ludicrous! As you know, I wasn’t high on the JC-DHB duo last year but that was mainly because I felt JC couldn’t get him the ball with all that short/underneath crap he threw. Palmer/DHB is another story. Those 2 really hit it off and I believe will be off to the races this year. Not sure what those claiming he’s the 4th/5th WR were watching last year.
July 24th, 2012 at 11:51 pm
Raidertalk – concerning yes, but hold off on any judgements. Isn’t Bergstrom’s deal still pending too?
July 24th, 2012 at 11:54 pm
We Raider fans need only look back a couple of years to remember an un-proven “talent” who also looked good during drills and held out.
And that was a first-rounder
July 24th, 2012 at 11:57 pm
Raidertalk Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 11:54 pm
We Raider fans need only look back a couple of years to remember an un-proven “talent” who also looked good during drills and held out.
And that was a first-rounder
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This time around it can’t be about money, right? With the new CBA and all…
So the disagreement is most likely in contract language? Correct me if I’m wrong…
July 24th, 2012 at 11:57 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
July 24th, 2012 at 11:51 pm
Raidertalk – concerning yes, but hold off on any judgements. Isn’t Bergstrom’s deal still pending too?
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Good Point
True I can’t jump to conclusions…”hope I’m wrong” but for some wierd reason I just got a bad feeling; when everbody started talking him up I thought “hold up a second”
July 25th, 2012 at 12:04 am
So whats gonna happen with all the cap-space? R we Saving it for next year?
I can’t recall that last time the Raids had cap space a the start of training camp
July 25th, 2012 at 12:04 am
Well,goodnight guys.Good Raider talk this evening without most of the clowns.
July 25th, 2012 at 12:05 am
Goodnight, Lefty.
July 25th, 2012 at 12:06 am
Raidertalk Says:
July 25th, 2012 at 12:04 am
So whats gonna happen with all the cap-space? R we Saving it for next year?
I can’t recall that last time the Raids had cap space a the start of training camp
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Only the big man, Reggie, knows.
July 25th, 2012 at 12:17 am
http://prod.static.raiders.clubs.nfl.com/assets/clubimg/2012-raiderettes-1st-large.jpg
So NATION…which one’s your favorite?
I’m gonna have to go with Jessica or Alli.
July 25th, 2012 at 12:21 am
Roster can be found here
http://www.raiders.com/raiderettes/roster.html
July 25th, 2012 at 12:36 am
Overall, not a terribly impressive group.
July 25th, 2012 at 5:03 am
News Articles > New Panthers WR Murphy tweaks hamstring
Published Tue Jul 24 1:43:00 p.m. ET 2012
(Rotoworld) Louis Murphy is questionable for the start of training camp after tweaking his hamstring while working out last week.
Analysis: While it’s not a long-term concern, the injury is a reminder that Murphy has had a plethora of injuries since entering the league. Included are a hamstring “procedure” last August and a hamstring pull that kept him out of the first couple of weeks of OTAs in June.
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Who else is glad that REGG was able to pawn off nothing for something? I sure am.
July 25th, 2012 at 5:23 am
#798
Murphy has been suffering from a chronic case of “Schillenitis”!!
July 25th, 2012 at 5:28 am
What is with some of these WR’s we have had of late, like JLH and Murph?
Maybe they are out there running scared and not thinking their first year or so, and are successful.
Once it all sinks in, and some expectations are slapped on them, they cower.
Not the type of men The Reggie, The Visor, and Carson want to go to battle with.
July 25th, 2012 at 5:33 am
Not the type of men The Reggie, The Visor, and Carson want to go to battle with.
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agreed. It may not be fair, but at some point a player has to do whatever is necessary to take care of his body. Staying healthy is a talent too. LM can take his strained vag to another team and have them worry about it.
July 25th, 2012 at 5:42 am
All eyes are on Darren as well.
Another year of 5 stellar games, 3-4 banged up games, and 8 games in sweats won’t do him any favors for his 2013 roster spot.
July 25th, 2012 at 5:48 am
I believe that DMC’s history of injuries are a series of flukes, no one injury directly related to another. He’s still a young man (25 yo next month).
I still don’t know enough about lisfranc injuries to say for certain that his injury last year is not going be recurring with some stress. We’ll have to wait and see.
I think DMC is a top tier talent at RB, and a huge advantage against any other team except maybe Minnesota. He has that background as a high school safety where he wants to punish would be tacklers. That’s fun to watch, but at this stage of the game, he’s got to learn to take what’s there and go out of bounds. He needs to realize just how important he is to the team. The 2012 season literally rides on DMC.
July 25th, 2012 at 5:48 am
Good morning Nation! Any good DB’s left ou there? Would Foxworth be a veteran worth signing as a camp body?
July 25th, 2012 at 5:48 am
2012 is the beginning of a 3-4 year run for DMac — he’s either going to be All-World or Oh, well (what might have been). Either way, he’d better make it happen – stats on oft-injured running backs show him being no longer productive by the time the 2016 season is underway. Run his ass off while we can!!
July 25th, 2012 at 5:49 am
…..and I forgot to add, also rides on CP3.
July 25th, 2012 at 5:49 am
*out
July 25th, 2012 at 5:58 am
I was thinking last night about TP’s throwing, and his issues seem to have been throwing darts to high. I’d still rather see a dart than a noodle-armed Leinart skipping balls off the turf.
This is where Criner comes in, I could see him being TP’s favorite target if he can go get those over-thrown balls. From what I’ve seen out of him in college, he has ball skills that cannot be taught, so it could get interesting imo.
July 25th, 2012 at 5:58 am
Bryant McFadden (CB) and Matt Roth (DE/LB) are two players I have had my eye on. If Reggie could afford either one, I think you could pencil one (or maybe both) in as starters. Neither one are long-term fixes, but would be plenty serviceable for this year. Don’t know about the money, though …
July 25th, 2012 at 6:01 am
Dodgers get Hanley Ramirez, and lose out on Hamels.
I always said, the Dodgers need someone who can hit and play SS. Dee Gordon leads all of baseball SS’s in errors, and he hasn’t played in a month, lol.
Good pickup for them, but they are on the hook for $15 millie per for the next two years for this guy, so that could bite them down the road.
Game on!!!!
July 25th, 2012 at 6:01 am
raidertbone Says:
July 25th, 2012 at 5:58 am
Bryant McFadden (CB) and Matt Roth (DE/LB) are two players I have had my eye on. If Reggie could afford either one, I think you could pencil one (or maybe both) in as starters. Neither one are long-term fixes, but would be plenty serviceable for this year. Don’t know about the money, though …
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Good point man, if McFadden can beat out Spencer for the job, I’m all for it. I’ll have to read up on Roth, but I have heard his name before.
July 25th, 2012 at 6:02 am
Last time I heard any kind of report on TP it was his footwork that was an issue. It led to errant throws and wobbly passes. He needs to work on that and learn to stick the throws he’s capable of. Work on improving his strengths instead of attacking his weaknesses. He sounds like he’s a long ways away from being a reliable plug and play backup QB. I hope the coaching staff turns him loose, but reins him in.
July 25th, 2012 at 6:06 am
guest123 Says:
July 25th, 2012 at 6:02 am
Last time I heard any kind of report on TP it was his footwork that was an issue. It led to errant throws and wobbly passes. He needs to work on that and learn to stick the throws he’s capable of. Work on improving his strengths instead of attacking his weaknesses. He sounds like he’s a long ways away from being a reliable plug and play backup QB. I hope the coaching staff turns him loose, but reins him in.
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Yeah I’ve also heard the same things about his foot-work, but hopefully coaches can help fix that. It will be interesting to see if Criner makes him look good though..
July 25th, 2012 at 6:12 am
I’m as excited as anyone about Juron’s game, but in real games, there isn’t the same margin of error going against top NFL DB’s. I believe that CP3 to Juron will be sweet music, but it’s a bit optimistic to think TP can compare accuracy wise. The throw has to be there for Juron to have a chance. He’s not a burner, so his separation is limited.
July 25th, 2012 at 6:14 am
Criner and Bergstrom deals should get done by the end of the weekend, before players report — no reason that they shouldn’t. I look to see TP a lot during the preseason (I hope he torches the Cowgirls!). I think this is the year that we see him truly develop his potential – if he’s ever going to be an NFL starter, I think we’ll see glimpses of it this year, at some point.
July 25th, 2012 at 6:14 am
I WISH IT WAS MAY SO WE STILL HAD 3+ MONTHES UNTILL CAMP….
July 25th, 2012 at 6:16 am
guest123 Says:
July 25th, 2012 at 6:12 am
I’m as excited as anyone about Juron’s game, but in real games, there isn’t the same margin of error going against top NFL DB’s. I believe that CP3 to Juron will be sweet music, but it’s a bit optimistic to think TP can compare accuracy wise. The throw has to be there for Juron to have a chance. He’s not a burner, so his separation is limited.
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Yeah that’s my main concern is TP’s accuracy issues, even though he has a cannon of an arm. I’m more looking forward to seeing his run game, and see if he can throw nasty stiff-arms like he did in college. You’re right about Criner though, his separation seems to be him jumping higher than DB’s and making freakish catches.lol
July 25th, 2012 at 6:17 am
Terrell Pryor, one of the best athletes in all of football and a potential starting QB, will be going against guys this preseason at the end of games who will be selling car insurance back in their college towns in no time flat.
He BETTER look like a world-beater.
Tui always looked great in preseason, but it’s different going against Darrell Revis than Clarence Love.
July 25th, 2012 at 6:18 am
LOL @ Clarence Love
July 25th, 2012 at 6:23 am
I agree the pressure is on TP big time, but I don’t think he has to look like a world beater. But he does have to “look” the part. If he makes Jamarcus like zingers into the dirt or 3 ft above the intended receiver, patience for him as a potential starting QB will start to fade quickly.
July 25th, 2012 at 6:24 am
I had forgotten all about Clarence Love! When I looked on Wikipedia. it mentioned that Clarence “won Super Bowl XXXV with the Baltimore Ravens”. He WON the Super Bowl – yeah, right!!
July 25th, 2012 at 6:27 am
Little known facts on Rod Streater, from cnnsi.com at his pro day:
“Receiver Rod Streater stood out catching the ball.
Rod Streater also cracked the 4.4-second barrier, timing 4.37 in the 40.
That’s a good sign for Streater (19 receptions) who had minimal offensive production last season.”
So, he catched well and ran a 4.37 forty, that’s another sub 4.4 to the Raiders racing team.
The low production is a downer but maybe they didn’t pass much, can’t really say what kind of offense Temple runs.
July 25th, 2012 at 6:28 am
I remember sitting in the stands at the old Meadowlands back in 2009, thinking “This is about as low as the Raiders can go!: We have a busted-ass QB with no desire, a pours defense with no fire, and a head coaching position that nobody wants.” We’ve made gradual progress – this year, let’s shock the world and take it all!
July 25th, 2012 at 6:30 am
Good stuff Bob!
July 25th, 2012 at 6:31 am
Could Streater have more of an impact than Criner?.
Streater, not Criner, was the one who lined up with the starters at some point as a reward for his OTA performance and he’s obviously much faster than Criner.
We’ll see.
July 25th, 2012 at 6:32 am
Out.
July 25th, 2012 at 6:35 am
Could Streater have more of an impact than Criner?.
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Of course anything is possible; and I’m ALL for putting the best guys on the field. I’m a Criner guy, and that’s where I’d put my money. If Streater comes in and tears it up I won’t be butt hurt about it either. I’ll be yellin his name on Sunday.
July 25th, 2012 at 6:36 am
Quote for Today…
“In the end, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends.”
― Martin Luther King Jr.
July 25th, 2012 at 6:56 am
theghostronin79 Says:
July 25th, 2012 at 6:35 am
Could Streater have more of an impact than Criner?.
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Of course anything is possible; and I’m ALL for putting the best guys on the field. I’m a Criner guy, and that’s where I’d put my money. If Streater comes in and tears it up I won’t be butt hurt about it either. I’ll be yellin his name on Sunday.
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Very true man, the more WR threats we have, the bigger problem for opposing defenses. I do believe that Criner has catching skills, similar to Fitzgerald, that a coach can’t really teach a player.
July 25th, 2012 at 6:58 am
Not the first time Criner and Fitz name have been seen in the same sentence. But Fitz was an all world WR coming out of college top 3 overall pick. I think we need to nudge down expectations a tad.
July 25th, 2012 at 7:01 am
Yeah man I don’t expect him to ball like Fitz for a while, but think he’ll have his fair share of TD’s this year.
July 25th, 2012 at 7:04 am
Fitzgerald might have been the best collegiate WR I ever seen.
Criner, was like the 20th WR taken in this past draft.
Trust me, they have zero in common
July 25th, 2012 at 7:07 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 25th, 2012 at 6:01 am
Dodgers get Hanley Ramirez, and lose out on Hamels.
I always said, the Dodgers need someone who can hit and play SS
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PHUGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!
Can’t believe Philly came through with that bread.
Oh well, on to Josh Hamilton, lol!
Ramirez needs to stay at 3rd base.
Our corner bats have to be the worst in the league.
July 25th, 2012 at 7:08 am
Your SS spot is a disaster.
Gordon can’t field the position, and this new Cruz guy is a GIDP waiting to happen.
July 25th, 2012 at 7:09 am
I know we’re all excited but, I think, as a total package receiver: Criner is gonna be the best one we’ve had in a LONG LONG time. I think he’ll be a fixture, and a name associated with the Raiders. Like when you hear “Steelers” you think…..”The Bus”, Hines Ward, Big Ben…..I had high expectations as soon as we drafted him. I was the most excited about THAT pick because I’d watched him play in college the last few years.
I think Criner is gonna work his way into the company of Freddy B, Cliff Branch, and Tim Brown, as it pertains to Oak’s best receivers historically. Yeah, it’s a pipe dream but, I can’t shake this feeling of certainty.
July 25th, 2012 at 7:15 am
835. At least your willing to admit its a pipe dream..
July 25th, 2012 at 7:16 am
Hey, I had a hankerin for some Kool-Aid this morning.
July 25th, 2012 at 7:17 am
Gordon’s speed at the top of the lineup with Ramirez’s bat more than offsets Gordon’s momentary lapses in the field, bruh.
I guess you missed Cruz’s 3 run bomb 2 days ago. Decent BACKUPplayer.
July 25th, 2012 at 7:18 am
Good points on Streater.
Would be funny if he is ahead of Criner.
July 25th, 2012 at 7:21 am
Good Morning Raider Nation!
Just finished reading on the phone and had to get on the laptop to comment on Vegas bashing (every chance he gets) on my Dodgers!
July 25th, 2012 at 7:24 am
839. From what I read, streater IS ahead of criner…
July 25th, 2012 at 7:24 am
theghostronin79 Says:
July 25th, 2012 at 7:16 am
Hey, I had a hankerin for some Kool-Aid this morning.
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Send some of that kool-aid my way bro…Burris, Criner and Bartell will ball out this year!
July 25th, 2012 at 7:25 am
Cruz is stepping up to the plate…I guess Vegas really doesn’t watch Dodger Blue?
I’ll take 14 HR, 14 SB and 48 RBI’s in the middle of the season any day!
Keep on Hatin!!
July 25th, 2012 at 7:25 am
Marks hair Says:
July 25th, 2012 at 7:24 am
839. From what I read, streater IS ahead of criner…
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I’m really pulling for Streater also, dude may surprise people in the NFL since Temple was a pretty run-heavy team.
July 25th, 2012 at 7:26 am
5 days till practice stars
July 25th, 2012 at 7:28 am
I didn’t miss his paint on the fence scraping “bomb”, lol.
He isn’t the answer, and right now he is a starter not the backup, and why I think you guys should play HanRam at SS.
We shall see.
July 25th, 2012 at 7:29 am
One series with the ones and now streater is ahead of criner? despite numerous glowing reports that center on criner’s series of “catch of the day” reports. No, I’m not buying.
July 25th, 2012 at 7:30 am
Ray,
What?? I am talking about this Cruz guy at SS the last month.
2 homers this year, but much better defensively than Gordon.
July 25th, 2012 at 7:30 am
Dodgers still don’t know if he’ll play short or 3rd…give it some time.
July 25th, 2012 at 7:31 am
guest123 Says:
July 25th, 2012 at 7:29 am
One series with the ones and now streater is ahead of criner? despite numerous glowing reports that center on criner’s series of “catch of the day” reports. No, I’m not buying.
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Not buying that either, Criner should beat Streater on the depth chart, but Streater may be a solid contributer imo.
July 25th, 2012 at 7:31 am
I’ll take 14 HR, 14 SB and 48 RBI’s in the middle of the season any day!
Hanley Ramirez
July 25th, 2012 at 7:33 am
If DHB, Moore and D-Mac stay moderately healthy, there won’t be a whole lot of touches for either Streater or Criner.
The Freddie B/Larry Fitz comparisions will have to wait until next years training camp, lol.
July 25th, 2012 at 7:34 am
I’ll take 14 HR, 14 SB and 48 RBI’s in the middle of the season any day!
Hanley Ramirez
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I said he was a good pickup for you guys, something you need (some pop and someone who doesn’t kick it around the infield) more so than a Dempster or Garza.
He makes a TON of money though, like 16 per the next 2 years. Could be a rental.
July 25th, 2012 at 7:34 am
I’ll wait for the pre-season to evaluate these new guys, there’s no telling right now.
July 25th, 2012 at 7:35 am
Guest, did you see post 836?
July 25th, 2012 at 7:36 am
850. I know the “reporters” like criner. But DA said streater earned his shot to line up with the ones.. Cork hasnt seen much action..
July 25th, 2012 at 7:36 am
GOOD MORNING NATION !!!
and my GreenParty brothers !!
still no sign of the GreenParty prez. DMAC ??
July 25th, 2012 at 7:38 am
I’ll wait for the pre-season to evaluate these new guys, there’s no telling right now.
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Yeah, but it’s still fun to speculate. What else can we do right now? We’re just sitting in front of the Christmas tree wondering what could be in the wrapped packages.
July 25th, 2012 at 7:38 am
raidertbone Says:
July 25th, 2012 at 6:28 am
I remember sitting in the stands at the old Meadowlands back in 2009, thinking “This is about as low as the Raiders can go!: We have a busted-ass QB with no desire, a pours defense with no fire, and a head coaching position that nobody wants.”
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That really was a hellacious beatdown.
There’s one play from that game that is burned into my brain.
JaMoron threw a pick and a Giant was returning it. DHB comes up from behind in pursuit – and instead of tackling the Giant from behind, runs right past him and waits for the Giant to come towards him.
Total lack of football instincts – but my G-d, perhaps the most awesome display of pure speed I’ve ever seen on a football field. Every other player looked like they were moving in slow motion compared to Bey.
It truly was jaw dropping.
Even my buddy who dislikes the Raids exclaims ‘Holy sht, that guy is fast’, and then cracks up over the play.
July 25th, 2012 at 7:38 am
852. Agreed.
The rookies wont play much unless the starters go down..
July 25th, 2012 at 7:39 am
Marks hair Says:
July 25th, 2012 at 7:36 am
850. I know the “reporters” like criner. But DA said streater earned his shot to line up with the ones.. Cork hasnt seen much action..
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Well Criner and Streater will get their chance against Bartell in camp, we’ll see who wins that battle more often.
July 25th, 2012 at 7:41 am
theghostronin79 Says:
July 25th, 2012 at 7:38 am
I’ll wait for the pre-season to evaluate these new guys, there’s no telling right now.
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Yeah, but it’s still fun to speculate. What else can we do right now? We’re just sitting in front of the Christmas tree wondering what could be in the wrapped packages.
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LOL No kidding man, I still have that gut feeling that Criner and Burris will be beasts, and see plenty of playing time this year.
July 25th, 2012 at 7:41 am
Carson Palmer one-on-one on BSPN…coming up!
July 25th, 2012 at 7:44 am
Burris will certainly see more snaps than Criner and Streater this season (health permitting).
LB depth is a much bigger issue than WR depth.
I can’t see keeping two rookies at WR (both Criner and Streater) unless one of them can play special teams.
If we have 5 WR’s (Ford, DHB, Moore, Streater, Criner) who don’t play on any of the coverage units, then we have to compensate for that and have probably our starting TE be on those coverage units.
July 25th, 2012 at 7:45 am
theghostronin79 Says:
July 25th, 2012 at 7:35 am
Guest, did you see post 836?
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I’m willing to agree that Criner to Fitz is a pipe dream. But I still think he’s well ahead in the depth chart to Rod Streater.
July 25th, 2012 at 7:47 am
Burris will certainly see more snaps than Criner and Streater this season (health permitting).
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bold statement for a late round rookie. Is this based on confidence in Burris or a hunch that McClame is going to be suspended?
July 25th, 2012 at 7:50 am
Wasn’t Burris drafted ahead of Criner and Streater?
July 25th, 2012 at 7:52 am
I think criner & streater will have to play sp teams.. For sure
July 25th, 2012 at 7:53 am
Old Meadowlands was really a great venue to watch a game in. Excellent lines of sight. Nice stadium.
Problem was it was windy as hell and you could freeze your butt off on a frigid day.
I went there to watch the Giants play the St Louis Cards right after the ‘miracle in the meadowlands’ Herm Edwards/Joe Pisarcik fumble return.
It’s a freezing cold day, windy as hell, and even the lowly Cardinals are whacking the G-Men.
The crowd is mostly drunk and pissed off.
Suddenly a plane starts flying over the stadium with a banner trailing it.
It says simply, “We’ve had enough!”
Within 30 seconds, 50,000 people were screaming that in unison.
Went on for the entire 4th quarter.
John McVay was fired as head coach shortly after that. Parcells in. LT drafted. Simmms drafted. The rest is history.
July 25th, 2012 at 7:57 am
Good interview cp3.. Its getting exciting, 5 more days.
July 25th, 2012 at 8:04 am
I find myself REALLY pulling for Burris. We definately need a presence in the LB Corps. A menacing face that DARES offenses to snap the ball…..A Lewis, A Willis, A Romonowski…..
I don’t “Feel” like Burris is that type of guy but, I think he’ll strike fear in more QB’s than running backs. People are tabbing Wheeler as Wimbley’s replacement. I’m saying Burris will be THAT guy; our edge rusher with QB knockdowns by the dozens.
July 25th, 2012 at 8:05 am
Anybody bought Raider gear from this Ultimate Fan Shop site off this page? just curious if the shipping is fast and cheap…planning on buying some jerseys & hats to rock at games, car stuff, mugs all kinds of stuff, they have it all
July 25th, 2012 at 8:06 am
theghostronin79 Says:
July 25th, 2012 at 8:04 am
I find myself REALLY pulling for Burris. We definately need a presence in the LB Corps. A menacing face that DARES offenses to snap the ball…..A Lewis, A Willis, A Romonowski…..
I don’t “Feel” like Burris is that type of guy but, I think he’ll strike fear in more QB’s than running backs. People are tabbing Wheeler as Wimbley’s replacement. I’m saying Burris will be THAT guy; our edge rusher with QB knockdowns by the dozens.
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I’m looking for Burris to be that guy also, and to out perform Wheeler rushing the passer. If we didn’t draft Burris, the Ravens were going to grab him, and they have a history of drafting good LBs.
July 25th, 2012 at 8:08 am
boss01 Says:
July 25th, 2012 at 8:05 am
Anybody bought Raider gear from this Ultimate Fan Shop site off this page? just curious if the shipping is fast and cheap…planning on buying some jerseys & hats to rock at games, car stuff, mugs all kinds of stuff, they have it all
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I have not yet, but if you have a good experience, please share it and I’m sure the blogsters will order from them.
July 25th, 2012 at 8:10 am
I cant wait to watch t.jones tear shlt up in the preseason..
July 25th, 2012 at 8:12 am
Marks hair Says:
July 25th, 2012 at 8:10 am
I cant wait to watch t.jones tear shlt up in the preseason..
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Me too man! With TP’s speed and Jones at RB, pre-season or not, defenses better be ready for some serious speed.
July 25th, 2012 at 8:13 am
I predict t.j has a preseason gm with at least 100 yds in the first half.
July 25th, 2012 at 8:13 am
Ice Cube should give the other talentless, inarticulate buffoons out there, hope that they too, can make it big.
July 25th, 2012 at 8:14 am
boss01 Says:
July 25th, 2012 at 8:05 am
Anybody bought Raider gear from this Ultimate Fan Shop site off this page? just curious if the shipping is fast and cheap…planning on buying some jerseys & hats to rock at games, car stuff, mugs all kinds of stuff, they have it all
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I have not yet, but if you have a good experience, please share it and I’m sure the blogsters will order from them.
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I sure will share my review, they have some good stuff though, although I think it’s a bit over priced, I can find cheaper merchandise in many a site
July 25th, 2012 at 8:17 am
I predict t.j has a preseason gm with at least 100 yds in the first half
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It’s a fine prediction. I’d second that.
July 25th, 2012 at 8:21 am
Don’t forget the official Raider logo Sandwich/Waffle griddle (got minez last year).
Nothing says Raider Nation like an Albuquerque Turkey sandwich with a big azz shield on that MoFo!!!!
July 25th, 2012 at 8:22 am
theghostronin79 Says:
July 25th, 2012 at 8:17 am
I predict t.j has a preseason gm with at least 100 yds in the first half
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It’s a fine prediction. I’d second that.
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Me too, and I’ll say Burris gets at least one sack in 3 of the 4 pre-season games.
July 25th, 2012 at 8:22 am
Ice Cube should give the other talentless, inarticulate buffoons out there, hope that they too, can make it big.
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Like 55?
July 25th, 2012 at 8:23 am
theghostronin79 Says:
July 25th, 2012 at 8:04 am
I find myself REALLY pulling for Burris. We definately need a presence in the LB Corps. A menacing face that DARES offenses to snap the ball…..A Lewis, A Willis, A Romonowski…..
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If you are going to pull for someone to come out of nowhere to bolster our LB corp, Burris is not a bad guy to pull for. He has potential starter written all over the back of his charger.
July 25th, 2012 at 8:23 am
I’ve already selected Taiwan as my 2012 MUP.
TJ stays healthy, he’s going to be a star.
July 25th, 2012 at 8:23 am
I get so caught up thinking about the rookies, and T.Jones, that I keep forgetting about Pryor. I’ve been so anxious to see him take some snaps. This Preseason is more important to me than probably the last decades worth. I’ll be watching it SO SO closely. So much to watch for. Probably record them and watch over and over again paying attention to different players.
July 25th, 2012 at 8:24 am
Please do not mention Fitzgerald on Raider blogs, as we all recall we passed on him for some can’t miss LT 2nd coming of A. Munoz;
Of course a few years later we passed on Megatron for him whose name shall not be typed.
July 25th, 2012 at 8:24 am
Speaking of MUP, who’s pulling that list together this year?
I second Taiwan as MUP. But I’d like an offensive and defensive MUP as well.
For defense, I have Tollefson as my MUP
July 25th, 2012 at 8:25 am
Is 55 inarticulate ?
Never heard him speak.
July 25th, 2012 at 8:27 am
The Patriots signed my favorite purple TE Schiancoe. Again, why do they need so many frgin TE’s?
July 25th, 2012 at 8:28 am
I had Desmond Bryant in last years MUP poll, and I will either go with him again or Rolando McBadazz.
July 25th, 2012 at 8:28 am
Shiancoe signed a one year $1.2M deal with incentives that could make it worth $2M.
July 25th, 2012 at 8:29 am
I picked Burris as my MUP, for offense I’d say TP.
July 25th, 2012 at 8:30 am
guest123 Says:
July 25th, 2012 at 8:27 am
The Patriots signed my favorite purple TE Schiancoe. Again, why do they need so many frgin TE’s?
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Easy answer, BB is and always will be a d1ck!lol
July 25th, 2012 at 8:31 am
Only words I’ve ever heard McLame utter was on Sound FX on the NFL Network.
He’s on the bench talking to Curry, after he’s picked up a sack on a blitz.
‘They didn’t know I had that in my repertoire’
Repertoire ?
Very impressive, Ronaldo.
July 25th, 2012 at 8:33 am
Just noticing your anti-thug similarities, i guess, 99.
Because Ice Cube doesn’t talk like you, he’s inarticulate?
I think millions of folks would disagree with that.
July 25th, 2012 at 8:34 am
Live chat today? Thought I heard that somewhere. Maybe Twitter….
July 25th, 2012 at 8:35 am
J Hill Says:
July 25th, 2012 at 8:33 am
Just noticing your anti-thug similarities, i guess, 99.
Because Ice Cube doesn’t talk like you, he’s inarticulate?
I think millions of folks would disagree with that.
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Ice was spot on yesterday when he said that the 2nd ammendment was put in place as a last resort against tyranny. Way to go Ice-Cube!
July 25th, 2012 at 8:35 am
Only words I’ve ever heard McLame utter was on Sound FX on the NFL Network.
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Also during the Colts game his rookie year, he was quoted after the Jacoby TD return that “this kid is the greatest kid in the world”.
2 “kids” in about 8 words. Hard to do, try it sometime, lol.
July 25th, 2012 at 8:36 am
Live chat today? Thought I heard that somewhere. Maybe Twitter….
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Paul G is going on PFT Live at around 9:10 this morning.
July 25th, 2012 at 8:36 am
Today in 1966, Al Davis returned to coach our beloved RAIDERS.
#RIPAL
July 25th, 2012 at 8:36 am
Yes, he’s inarticulate.
And yes, I don’t like thugs.
July 25th, 2012 at 8:38 am
Ice is far more articulate than most politicians, at least he understands the true meaning behind our right to bear arms.
July 25th, 2012 at 8:40 am
So Ricky Brown in a Raven, huh…
July 25th, 2012 at 8:41 am
AT this stage in his life, Cube has been rubbing elbows with millionaires, lawyers and big-wig executives far more than his days of rubbing elbows with gangsters.
He probably could break down the Glass-Steagall Act and the effects of stagflation on the economy better than breaking down the street game.
July 25th, 2012 at 8:42 am
Repertoire ?
Very impressive, Ronaldo.
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LOL
July 25th, 2012 at 8:44 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 25th, 2012 at 8:41 am
AT this stage in his life, Cube has been rubbing elbows with millionaires, lawyers and big-wig executives far more than his days of rubbing elbows with gangsters.
He probably could break down the Glass-Steagall Act and the effects of stagflation on the economy better than breaking down the street game.
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Endorsed! Cube is no dummy and sees the direction this country is headed. At least he has the ballz to speak against it.
July 25th, 2012 at 8:46 am
Boss01 Says:
July 25th, 2012 at 8:05 am
Anybody bought Raider gear from this Ultimate Fan Shop site off this page? just curious if the shipping is fast and cheap…planning on buying some jerseys & hats to rock at games, car stuff, mugs all kinds of stuff, they have it all
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The wifee ordered me some hats last week from Raider Image…hats got here (Las Vegas) in 2 days!! Check it out…they got some ish!
July 25th, 2012 at 8:48 am
r8eray Says:
July 25th, 2012 at 8:46 am
Boss01 Says:
July 25th, 2012 at 8:05 am
Anybody bought Raider gear from this Ultimate Fan Shop site off this page? just curious if the shipping is fast and cheap…planning on buying some jerseys & hats to rock at games, car stuff, mugs all kinds of stuff, they have it all
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The wifee ordered me some hats last week from Raider Image…hats got here (Las Vegas) in 2 days!! Check it out…they got some ish!
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Looks like they have nice fitted caps. Thanks for the review, I’ll be ordering from them sometime next week!
July 25th, 2012 at 8:49 am
99,
You really didn’t like the 1st Friday movie?
Like 55, did you make up your mind early on Ice Cube to a point where you will never see anything useful outta the guy?
July 25th, 2012 at 8:51 am
Off to lunch, shall return in 3 hours.lol
July 25th, 2012 at 8:51 am
You People are Funny! Ice Cube?!
LOK
July 25th, 2012 at 8:52 am
We all know the final score of pre-season games doesn’t mean squat, but all the same I wouldn’t mind if we won the Dallas game.
You wanna see your team play well regardless; especially in week 3…which is the one everyone points to as the most indicative of what your team is looking like.
Remember a couple yr.s back in wk.3 of the preseason when we got absolutely shellacked by the Saints? Brees threw for like 300+ in the 1st half?
Last one I really wanted was against San Fran. After they beat us the niner fans were acting like they won the SB….very irritating.
July 25th, 2012 at 8:52 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
A’s…who clears the bases off of a single?
July 25th, 2012 at 8:53 am
Ice Cube is smart enough to have a $100 million net worth.
July 25th, 2012 at 8:54 am
This preseason will be fun though; with alot of Pryor hopefully to see what he’s all about and just to see this “new” team take the field and see how they comport themselves.
July 25th, 2012 at 8:58 am
Looks like Dallas has a 4 day jump on us with their rookie only camp. Dunno why the Raiders decided to why the Raiders didn’t decide on one of those. Our rooks need all the work they can get.
July 25th, 2012 at 8:59 am
Cork just announced a live chat today at 1:00 PST. New post coming.
July 25th, 2012 at 9:03 am
If anyone’s interested, Paul G.’s gonna be on PFT live in a few:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/25/pft-live-raiders-talk-with-paul-gutierrez-and-jets-talk-with-manish-mehta/
July 25th, 2012 at 9:05 am
Good morning Hwnrdr. I miss DMAC.
July 25th, 2012 at 9:09 am
Louis Murphy tweaked his hamstring last week, may not be ready for camp.
#GREATTRADE
July 25th, 2012 at 9:11 am
Good mornin, Hwn
July 25th, 2012 at 9:11 am
The Big Banana Says:
July 25th, 2012 at 8:53 am
Ice Cube is smart enough to have a $100 million net worth.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
I disagree. Entertainers make a lot of money, movies, music, etc…
So Tom Cruise is smart?
July 25th, 2012 at 9:13 am
You really didn’t like the 1st Friday movie?
Like 55, did you make up your mind early on Ice Cube to a point where you will never see anything useful outta the guy?
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Never watched the Friday flicks.
I take it that the Friday movies represent the ’softer’ more family oriented, more acceptable to the mainstream, Cube ?
Good for him. Rework your image. Make millions.
Still don’t like him, and honestly I know very little about him or his music with NWA.
Just know I’m not a fan of rap, thugs, gangsta culture.
Wasn’t that what Niggas With Attitude was about ?
Thought it was pretty funny that Cube called himself the ‘president of the Raider Nation’.
Didn’t Brien once threaten to kneecap the self-appointed Prez ?
Or was that Snoop ?
Get the rapper thugs confused.
I know it wasn’t Tupac. He was already dead.
July 25th, 2012 at 9:15 am
Raider O Says:
July 25th, 2012 at 9:05 am
Good morning Hwnrdr. I miss DMAC.
Yeah, I wonder what’s going on with him. probably no access during summer school? He’ll be back!
July 25th, 2012 at 9:15 am
Good Morning Banana!
July 25th, 2012 at 9:17 am
Well allrightie then.
July 25th, 2012 at 9:18 am
Remember a couple yr.s back in wk.3 of the preseason when we got absolutely shellacked by the Saints? Brees threw for like 300+ in the 1st half?
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Yup, and Jamarcus was fumbling and one-hoping passes as well.
That was the game that prompted the Greg Ellis “this is not high school” tirade.
Wish we could have played more relevant ball for Ellis, he was a good dude.
July 25th, 2012 at 9:20 am
O, true, dummies can walk right into a crapload of money. It’s the smart ones that can keep and grow their wealth.
Ice Cube saw a market and grabbed hold of it.
July 25th, 2012 at 9:26 am
Cal Ripken’s mom was abducted at gun point.
Sick world.
July 25th, 2012 at 9:27 am
Remember a couple yr.s back in wk.3 of the preseason when we got absolutely shellacked by the Saints? Brees threw for like 300+ in the 1st half?
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Remember that very well.
Can’t always take something away from a pre-season result, but that sure was an accurate indicator that the Saints had a powerhouse offense and the Raider D was going to be less than adequate.
Remind me to bet the Saints this pre-season. Figure they’re going to want to make a statement by winning when it doesn’t really count.
Cha-ching.
July 25th, 2012 at 9:30 am
That Saints game was the 3rd game, also viewed as the most telling for teams.
July 25th, 2012 at 9:30 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 25th, 2012 at 9:26 am
Cal Ripken’s mom was abducted at gun point.
Sick world.
WOW! I agree…very sick world we live in!
July 25th, 2012 at 9:31 am
The thing I remember about that Saints game was how bad Murphy was.
BY FAR the worst player in that game.
July 25th, 2012 at 9:33 am
Murphy did fumble I remember.
The Jamarcus Russell offense is tough on all WR’s.
July 25th, 2012 at 9:34 am
Takeaways from Paul G’s segment on PFT:
- He thinks Ryan Grant is more likely than Cedric Benson, simply because Reggie knows Grant and because Benson’s been jawing about being paid like a premium back. Reggie’s got no use for the ‘tude.
- Or we may wait until after Week 1 to sign a veteran hammer so we’re not on the hook for the whole season’s pay.
- He thinks Kelly may be a surprise veteran cut. DA couldn’t have too happy about talking up Kelly as a NT and Kelly then publicly saying he didn’t want to play the position.
July 25th, 2012 at 9:35 am
Sorry to break your heart Vegas, looks like Dempster is landing in L.A.!
July 25th, 2012 at 9:36 am
People say preseason doesn’t mean anything, but you can easily see where you may be lacking.
July 25th, 2012 at 9:37 am
r8eray Says:
July 25th, 2012 at 9:35 am
Sorry to break your heart Vegas, looks like Dempster is landing in L.A.!
Yup!
July 25th, 2012 at 9:37 am
TBB,
Look at athletes too, they have money, but that doesn’t make them smart IMO (I like Shaq but I don’t think he is smart).
You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to hire a financial advisor.
July 25th, 2012 at 9:38 am
Also mentioned Sho as the most likely to get the franchise tag next year.
Another topic not discussed here was the new 85% rule that Tampa has already agreed to in the event of a possible blackout. Hopefully the point is moot with all the sellouts, but it’d be nice to know.
July 25th, 2012 at 9:39 am
Raider O Says:
July 25th, 2012 at 9:37 am
TBB,
Look at athletes too, they have money, but that doesn’t make them smart IMO (I like Shaq but I don’t think he is smart).
You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to hire a financial advisor.
LOL, Shaq is Dr O’Neil now!
July 25th, 2012 at 9:40 am
Oh….and the Dodgers could also pursue Victorino or Pence!!
Talk about nail in the coffin!
July 25th, 2012 at 9:40 am
That game was one of the better offensive displays you’ll ever see.
You got the idea the Raider defense was poor, but it was just great execution by the Saints. They were ready to roll, looked like a well oiled machine. Very impressive.
Heck, even when the Bills were putting up 5 TD’s in the second half last year, you got the feeling there was an ounce of resistance on the Raider’s part.
There wasn’t any doubt the Saints could have scored at will that day.
July 25th, 2012 at 9:41 am
hwnrdr Says:
July 25th, 2012 at 9:30 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 25th, 2012 at 9:26 am
Cal Ripken’s mom was abducted at gun point.
Sick world.
WOW! I agree…very sick world we live in!
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we call it CHARM CITY for a reason.
thank god she is back home and safe now !!!
July 25th, 2012 at 9:41 am
Wasn’t that the year that the Saints won it all?
July 25th, 2012 at 9:43 am
r8eray Says:
July 25th, 2012 at 9:40 am
Oh….and the Dodgers could also pursue Victorino or Pence!!
Talk about nail in the coffin!
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Only if the Phillies are sellers. Not determined yet..
July 25th, 2012 at 9:43 am
What’s up Mike? BTW: Work scheduled a stupid upgrade the weekend of the Ravens game in November. Not only do I have to cancel the Baltimore trip, but I now have to give up my 3 day weekend as well!
Angry Bird…Ku-Kawwww!!!!
July 25th, 2012 at 9:43 am
Talk about nail in the coffin!
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LOL!!
Victorino is of no concern, much more with Pence.
He can hit, catch and throw.
July 25th, 2012 at 9:45 am
you got the feeling there was an ounce of resistance on the Raider’s part.
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Slo breaking up passes??
July 25th, 2012 at 9:45 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 25th, 2012 at 9:43 am
Talk about nail in the coffin!
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LOL!!
Victorino is of no concern, much more with Pence.
He can hit, catch and throw.
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Head scratcher.
Victorino can hit, catch & throw.
He has a better arm than Pence too.
Im no Dodger fan, cant stand them, but that statement isnt close to being true brother.
July 25th, 2012 at 9:48 am
The Jamarcus Russell offense is tough on all WR’s.
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Lol!
July 25th, 2012 at 9:48 am
damn that sucks Hwnrdr, i was looking foward to putting a face with a name and showing you how we southern Maryland rednecks party.lol lol lol
but i will be there representing for the NATION !!
lol lol … look for me on the T.V. that game.
should be easy to spot. i will be the fat drunk white guy in Raider gear !! lol lol lol
July 25th, 2012 at 9:49 am
Debatable on the better arm, that’s why he’s in RF.
July 25th, 2012 at 9:53 am
O, some aren’t smart enough to even do that much!
I didn’t say he was a genius. I just said he’s smart enough to build and retain/grow wealth. Whether with the help of an advisor or not.
Saw an opportunity, seized it like a good entrepenuer, built up his wealth, and now provides very well for his family. He’s not an idiot.
July 25th, 2012 at 9:55 am
Wow, the money they pay baseball players these days.
Cole Hammels 6 years for $144 million! WOW!
July 25th, 2012 at 9:55 am
Anyone know for sure when camp starts? Plenty of sites have it listed as Friday 7/27, but I’ve also read that Sunday is reporting day with Monday being first practice
Steve – how about getting us some news?
July 25th, 2012 at 9:57 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 25th, 2012 at 9:49 am
Debatable on the better arm, that’s why he’s in RF.
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http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story%3Fcolumnist%3Dcrasnick_jerry%26id%3D2909515&sa=U&ei=7yMQUJHoIIrXigL87oH4BA&ved=0CCUQFjAG&usg=AFQjCNEtfJpGgT91CN6GL3EWOgljML1WZg
July 25th, 2012 at 9:58 am
All Raiders report on Saturday. Meetings on Sunday. Monday is first practice.
July 25th, 2012 at 9:58 am
Gonna be interesting to see what approach DA and Tarver take this pre-season. Especially on defense.
You’d want to see which guys are ‘getting it’ and try to project what may work best when the real bullets start flying.
At the same time, you don’t want to give the Bolts any idea of what’s coming their way Monday nite.
I suspect we’ll see a lot of looks but very little done off of them. Probably be more concerned about guys lining up correctly than anything else.
July 25th, 2012 at 10:01 am
Dr. Shaq?!
LOL
He has a Doctorate? In what?
July 25th, 2012 at 10:09 am
Missing Free Throws
July 25th, 2012 at 10:11 am
TBB,
I’m not saying they are idiots bro, but my point is that there is a lot of money in the entertainment business, and making/ being worth $100 million is not that difficult (you don’t have to be smart) when you make $20 million+ per year.
July 25th, 2012 at 10:12 am
Raider O Says:
July 25th, 2012 at 10:01 am
Dr. Shaq?!
LOL
He has a Doctorate? In what?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaquille_O%27Neal#Education
I see he has an MBA from the University of Phoenix (where I work, incidentally), and an Ed.D. (Doctor of Education) from someplace called Barry University.
July 25th, 2012 at 10:12 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 25th, 2012 at 9:18 am
Remember a couple yr.s back in wk.3 of the preseason when we got absolutely shellacked by the Saints? Brees threw for like 300+ in the 1st half?
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Yup, and Jamarcus was fumbling and one-hoping passes as well.
That was the game that prompted the Greg Ellis “this is not high school” tirade.
Wish we could have played more relevant ball for Ellis, he was a good dude.
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Yep, the Saints torched us in that pre-season game. Right after that game, I predicted they’d win it all that year and it happened, should put $$ on it.lol
July 25th, 2012 at 10:13 am
Raider O Says:
July 25th, 2012 at 10:01 am
Dr. Shaq?!
LOL
He has a Doctorate? In what?
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I think Shaq has an MBA, doesn’t mean much when degrees can be bought these days.
July 25th, 2012 at 10:14 am
*should have
July 25th, 2012 at 10:18 am
Thx Duck.
I used to work at UOP. I was an enrollment counselor.
July 25th, 2012 at 10:18 am
Fair enough, O.
July 25th, 2012 at 10:19 am
R8ER MIKE Says:
July 25th, 2012 at 9:48 am
damn that sucks Hwnrdr, i was looking foward to putting a face with a name and showing you how we southern Maryland rednecks party.lol lol lol
but i will be there representing for the NATION !!
lol lol … look for me on the T.V. that game.
should be easy to spot. i will be the fat drunk white guy in Raider gear !! lol lol lol
I know. Was looking foraward to meeting you and meeting up with Ravenaider again! Met him at the Denver game last year. Cool guy!
July 25th, 2012 at 10:20 am
Raider O Says:
July 25th, 2012 at 10:18 am
Thx Duck.
I used to work at UOP. I was an enrollment counselor.
That is where I graduated from!
July 25th, 2012 at 10:20 am
I need to get my MBA, so I can be as smart as Shaq. lol
July 25th, 2012 at 10:21 am
# RaiderDuck Says:
July 25th, 2012 at 10:12 am
Raider O Says:
July 25th, 2012 at 10:01 am
Dr. Shaq?!
LOL
He has a Doctorate? In what?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaquille_O%27Neal#Education
I see he has an MBA from the University of Phoenix (where I work, incidentally), and an Ed.D. (Doctor of Education) from someplace called Barry University.
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Amazing. That’s like saying I have my doctorate in medicine from the North Hollywood Upstairs Medical College.
July 25th, 2012 at 10:25 am
I know some people that have that Ed.D. designation that couldn’t find their own ass with two hands and a map!
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Seymour Bush Says:
July 25th, 2012 at 10:21 am
# RaiderDuck Says:
July 25th, 2012 at 10:12 am
Raider O Says:
July 25th, 2012 at 10:01 am
Dr. Shaq?!
LOL
He has a Doctorate? In what?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaquille_O%27Neal#Education
I see he has an MBA from the University of Phoenix (where I work, incidentally), and an Ed.D. (Doctor of Education) from someplace called Barry University.
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Amazing. That’s like saying I have my doctorate in medicine from the North Hollywood Upstairs Medical College.
July 25th, 2012 at 10:27 am
Thinking of moving from Victorville to the central coast; Lompoc, SLO, etc.
July 25th, 2012 at 10:27 am
Raider O Says:
July 25th, 2012 at 10:18 am
Thx Duck.
I used to work at UOP. I was an enrollment counselor.
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Awesome! I’ve been working there in Technical Support a little over three years now.
July 25th, 2012 at 10:28 am
TBB,
You are right about some of those entertainers who don’t hire financial avisors. It’s good to know what you know and know what you don’t know.
July 25th, 2012 at 10:30 am
I think Shaq has an MBA, doesn’t mean much when degrees can be bought these days.
$$$$$$$
Weird!!
I think people used to value education a lot more than we do today.
July 25th, 2012 at 10:31 am
Raidernationdave Says:
July 25th, 2012 at 10:25 am
I know some people that have that Ed.D. designation that couldn’t find their own ass with two hands and a map!
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Seymour Bush Says:
July 25th, 2012 at 10:21 am
# RaiderDuck Says:
July 25th, 2012 at 10:12 am
Raider O Says:
July 25th, 2012 at 10:01 am
Dr. Shaq?!
LOL
He has a Doctorate? In what?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaquille_O%27Neal#Education
I see he has an MBA from the University of Phoenix (where I work, incidentally), and an Ed.D. (Doctor of Education) from someplace called Barry University.
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Amazing. That’s like saying I have my doctorate in medicine from the North Hollywood Upstairs Medical College.
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LOL Some of the smartest people on earth have zero common sense, much better to be well-rounded imo.
July 25th, 2012 at 10:33 am
Hwnrdr,
Did you do the online program?
July 25th, 2012 at 10:33 am
Raider O Says:
July 25th, 2012 at 10:30 am
I think Shaq has an MBA, doesn’t mean much when degrees can be bought these days.
$$$$$$$
Weird!!
I think people used to value education a lot more than we do today.
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Yeah it’s a tough call with education because some professors preach bullschit. I know there are good ones out there, but I wouldn’t pay money to learn false history and keynesian economics.lol
July 25th, 2012 at 10:37 am
I don’t want to tarnish my Chico State diploma with a Phoenix MBA
July 25th, 2012 at 10:38 am
Raider O Says:
July 25th, 2012 at 10:33 am
Hwnrdr,
Did you do the online program?
I did both. All the general and extras I did online along with my minor in Finance. My Business Management program I did on campus
July 25th, 2012 at 10:38 am
Chico State? Was Razor Ramon the Dean??..
July 25th, 2012 at 10:39 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 25th, 2012 at 10:37 am
I don’t want to tarnish my Chico State diploma with a Phoenix MBA
I understand that one, but these days everything is online…tried to get to St Marys for my MBA but it was hard with a BS from UOP! Still, if I applied myself harder, I could have done it!
July 25th, 2012 at 10:39 am
Duck,
You guys are a blast. By far my favorite group at UOP.
July 25th, 2012 at 10:39 am
971.hwnrdr Says:
July 25th, 2012 at 10:20 am
Raider O Says:
July 25th, 2012 at 10:18 am
Thx Duck.
I used to work at UOP. I was an enrollment counselor.
That is where I graduated from!
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Nice….I just graduated from UOP this past weekend mba.
July 25th, 2012 at 10:44 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 25th, 2012 at 10:37 am
I don’t want to tarnish my Chico State diploma with a Phoenix MBA
$$$$$$$$$$$
ROFLMAO
July 25th, 2012 at 10:45 am
982.Just Fire Baby Says:
July 25th, 2012 at 10:37 am
I don’t want to tarnish my Chico State diploma with a Phoenix MBA
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Way to insult people who worked their azzes off and received an MBA or any degree from UOP.
More like the other the way around fool.
Chico State is all about doing drugs and getting drunk every night.
July 25th, 2012 at 10:47 am
More like you shouldn’t tarnish an MBA from Phoenix by bringing up how you received a drug induced haze of a undergrad from Chico St.
LOL!
July 25th, 2012 at 10:47 am
DKnight – pretty sure JFB was joking. Lol.
July 25th, 2012 at 10:47 am
991.The Big Banana Says:
July 25th, 2012 at 10:47 am
DKnight – pretty sure JFB was joking. Lol.
^^^^^^^
Hope so….
July 25th, 2012 at 10:49 am
Chico State is all about doing drugs and getting drunk every night.
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sounds a lot like my house !!
July 25th, 2012 at 10:49 am
JFB is a smart ass and I know for a fact he was being sarcastic.
sometimes humor does not come across that well in type.
July 25th, 2012 at 10:49 am
Still LMAO!!!
Good one Vegas.
July 25th, 2012 at 10:52 am
DKnight007 Says:
July 25th, 2012 at 10:39 am
971.hwnrdr Says:
July 25th, 2012 at 10:20 am
Raider O Says:
July 25th, 2012 at 10:18 am
Thx Duck.
I used to work at UOP. I was an enrollment counselor.
That is where I graduated from!
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Nice….I just graduated from UOP this past weekend mba.
NICE! Congrats!
July 25th, 2012 at 10:52 am
“JFB is a smart ass”
Meaning I get his sense of humor, funny guy!
July 25th, 2012 at 10:52 am
Btw, Congrats DK.
July 25th, 2012 at 10:52 am
R8ER MIKE Says:
July 25th, 2012 at 10:49 am
Chico State is all about doing drugs and getting drunk every night.
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sounds a lot like my house !!
Mine too…minus the drugs, unless you count nicotine! Wait, I have pot heads living with me as well…lol
July 25th, 2012 at 10:53 am
R8ER MIKE Says:
July 25th, 2012 at 10:49 am
Chico State is all about doing drugs and getting drunk every night.
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sounds a lot like my house !!
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What’s your tuition running Mike and can you fax me an enrollment application?lol
July 25th, 2012 at 10:53 am
I thought high school was tough. Schooling really got tough after that.
July 25th, 2012 at 10:53 am
Come on man, take a joke!!!
July 25th, 2012 at 10:53 am
UOP taught me how to speak in front a group of people. Every week…
July 25th, 2012 at 10:57 am
Hwnrdr,
Good degree. Mgmt & Fin.
Excellent!
July 25th, 2012 at 10:58 am
Raidernationdave Says:
July 25th, 2012 at 10:27 am
Thinking of moving from Victorville to the central coast; Lompoc, SLO, etc.
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Yeah..I would too if I lived in Tweakerville!!
Lol..
July 25th, 2012 at 11:00 am
R8ER MIKE Says:
July 25th, 2012 at 10:49 am
Chico State is all about doing drugs and getting drunk every night.
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sounds a lot like my house !!
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Long Live The ODB.
July 25th, 2012 at 11:03 am
Dave,
You should move to SD bro. Great place for the car business.
July 25th, 2012 at 11:06 am
UOP is a step up from my alma matter, however the suits in charge have a ranking system and UOP is not high up on there list of desireables.
It would be nice if subjects could get all their schooling from the internet and save society billions in tax dollars.
To this day I wonder what was contained in the last half of every book I was given in school from third grade arithmatic to algebra and geometry. Even other classes like English and science.
We never ever finished a book, most we were lucky to get halfway through
July 25th, 2012 at 11:10 am
I agree Plunketthead. I have heard that many times!
July 25th, 2012 at 11:12 am
As long as we all agree that Columbus discovered this land, we’re good to go.lol
July 25th, 2012 at 11:15 am
TxRaider210 Says:
July 25th, 2012 at 11:12 am
As long as we all agree that Columbus discovered this land, we’re good to go.lol
LOL. With people already here
July 25th, 2012 at 11:15 am
New Post
July 25th, 2012 at 11:32 am
If Murphy doesn’t make the cut, the Raiders get nothing.
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DennisAllensVisor Says:
July 25th, 2012 at 9:09 am
Louis Murphy tweaked his hamstring last week, may not be ready for camp.
#GREATTRADE