Criner not signing contract over $14,000
By Steve Corkran
Saturday, July 28th, 2012 at 12:28 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Rookie wide receiver Juron Criner and the Raiders are $14,000 apart on the signing bonus portion of his contract, according to an ESPN report. Not a lot of money but apparently enough to keep Criner away from training camp in Napa.
The report said the Raiders are offering Criner a $144,000 signing bonus, which is in line with where he was drafted in April. However, Criner’s camp is pushing for $158,000, or $2,000 less than the player picked right before Criner. Such a drop in bonus money is the norm for players picked in the fifth round. Yet, the NFL Management Council calls for players taken with compensatory selections to drop more than the norm.
Criner is the only player on the Raiders roster not under contract. They already have signed five of their six draftees. The first practice is Monday.
The ESPN report cited the source as saying Criner “likely” won’t sign a contract until the matter is resolved.
Raiders coach Dennis Allen isn’t available to the media until Sunday afternoon. Criner could not be reached for comment.
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July 28th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
Wow! Is that true? Big Reggie missed out on the character screening issue big time. Potential headache midway through his contract.
July 28th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
Talk about jumping over a $20 to grab a $5.
14K after taxes and agent fee’s and union dues, insurance, etc, is probably around half of that.
All these guys, be it top 10 picks or 5th rounders, need to get their azz in camp, in the good graces of the organization, and try to get to that BIG payday, which is your 2nd NFL contract.
The Reggie has spoken, and he will not give in, nor should he. He folds, and it has a domino effect league-wide.
July 28th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
Maybe we could all chip in and get him signed?
July 28th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
Raider O Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
Marks Hair Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
83. It might be his only contract..
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Great point. I think Reggie should give it to him. He is not asking for much, and he is not asking for 3rd or 4th round money.
Pay the man!!
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You can’t just “pay the man”. It’s not about 14 grrr. There is a new system in place that pays new players according to their draft slot status. As soon as one team ignores that it sets a precedent, and then all bets are off and players can start screwing around and demanding whatever they want even tho they have not played a down which is what the league is trying to stop. Don’t be a dummass.
July 28th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
Dave,
It happens, so don’t let it bother you.
Remember: you have AC, net customers, and the receptionist is taking care of you. It can’t get any better. Luck bastard!
July 28th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
Criner will fold by tomorrow, and try to save face and get to work.
July 28th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
“Potential headache midway through his contract’.
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He looks like he has diva written all over him.He was a 6th round pick and so many are fawning all over the guy because Corkran says he was the OTA standout.Well,for what it’s worth, last season the guy Corkran insisted was the best WR on the team during training camp didn’t even last the whole season on the team and when he was on the team he barely saw the field.
July 28th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
I don’t expect a cross posting troll to understand business. Keep trolling fool.
July 28th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
A brawl between KrappyRat and Brian the Genital would probably look a lot like two Care Bears hugging
They’d both start sobbing before any punches are even thrown and at least one of them would wet themselves
The only thing guaranteed is Amy Cakes Trask would have to buy ice cream sundaes with extra sprinkles to calm them both down
Just keeping it real, y’all
July 28th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
14k ? Too funny.
I’ve lost more than that gambling, in a single day.
Criner, you’ve got no leverage.
Sign and get your ass in camp.
July 28th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
Avoiding distractions and making a player with potential happy is worth 14k.
July 28th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
Wrong again Raider Ho. As usual. You are starting to reach the Jamista Clown Region of Idiocy. You might just want to give up and go back to washing cars.
July 28th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
14k ? Too funny.
I’ve lost more than that gambling, in a single day.
Criner, you’ve got no leverage.
Sign and get your ass in camp.
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His leverage is to completely sit out the year. On some level he could get drafted next year higher than the top of the 6th round based on his mini camp production. But it is a gamble. A big gamble. Better just to sign and start producing.
July 28th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
Criner isn’t going anywhere, even next season, so holding out only hurts his pockets.
July 28th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
14K won’t even get Criner a Sonata from Dave.
Sign and get your butt in camp.
July 28th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
People are actually talking football.Maybe you should go watch Oprah until they are finished.That seems to be more your style.
July 28th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
Raider O Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
Avoiding distractions and making a player with potential happy is worth 14k.
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Nope. There is a slotting system in place that should be followed. Let Criner prove he’s worth a second contract.
July 28th, 2012 at 12:53 pm
Since Reg is standing firm on this, makes me believe the best players will be on the field this year.
July 28th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
Running back Michael Bush could certainly be an every-down back, proving it by running for 839 yards in the final ten games with the Oakland Raiders last season. The Chicago Bears were sold on Bush’s ability, signing him to a four-year, $14 million contract in March as an insurance policy in case Matt Forte’s contract stalemate lingered into the season.
Forte was signed a multiyear deal, which means that Bush will be used as a complementary back. At 6-foot-1 and 245 pounds, Bush can expect to do a lot of the dirty work, a role he’s not exactly thrilled about filling.
“That’s the role I’ve been stuck with because of my size. But if that’s what I have to do, that’s what I have to do,” Bush said, via the Chicago Tribune. “No one likes to be a battering ram. It just happens that way.”
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And once again, here is Mike Bush crying about his supposed role in Chicago.
July 28th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
How do you think this story got out ?
Criner’s agent fed it to ESPN to try to get his client more money and make Reggie look like a tightwad.
Not good to piss your employer off.
July 28th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
And Bush proves what a nimrod he is. Dude could be the next John Riggins or Jerome Bettis, but wants to be Barry Sanders instead, even though he doesn’t have the speed or the moves for it.
July 28th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
Raider O Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
Avoiding distractions and making a player with potential happy is worth 14k.
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Nope. There is a slotting system in place that should be followed. Let Criner prove he’s worth a second contract.
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Exactly. This is the new system designed to get everyone in line and in camp quickly and efficiently, especially higher round guys and apparently it worked pretty well this signing season. Criner is the ONLY low pick unsigned. Obviously his agent and he are trying to crack the new system.
July 28th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
Running back Michael Bush could certainly be an every-down back, proving it by running for 839 yards in the final ten games with the Oakland Raiders last season. The Chicago Bears were sold on Bush’s ability, signing him to a four-year, $14 million contract in March as an insurance policy in case Matt Forte’s contract stalemate lingered into the season.
Forte was signed a multiyear deal, which means that Bush will be used as a complementary back. At 6-foot-1 and 245 pounds, Bush can expect to do a lot of the dirty work, a role he’s not exactly thrilled about filling.
“That’s the role I’ve been stuck with because of my size. But if that’s what I have to do, that’s what I have to do,” Bush said, via the Chicago Tribune. “No one likes to be a battering ram. It just happens that way.”
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And once again, here is Mike Bush crying about his supposed role in Chicago.
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Note to Mike Bush: It ain’t your size bud, it’s your lack of explosiveness. Like he didn’t know Forte has more skills..lol
July 28th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
How do you think this story got out ?
Criner’s agent fed it to ESPN to try to get his client more money and make Reggie look like a tightwad.
Not good to piss your employer off.
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Actually, I was figuring Reggie might have leaked it. It makes Criner look like an entitled diva.
July 28th, 2012 at 12:59 pm
The only precedent I could find for Criner’s situation was Melvin Bratton a generation ago. Bratton was running back from Miami. He would have been a top-10 pick after his junior year, but elected to stay at the U. He blew his knee out in the Orange, and dropped to the sixth round but demanded near-first round money and sat out the year. In the next year’s draft, he went in the seventh round instead. Oops.
July 28th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
Wtf!…. This guys is unproven and hasnt played one professional down. To hell with him and his posse.
July 28th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
Actually, I was figuring Reggie might have leaked it. It makes Criner look like an entitled diva.
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Nope. Severely doubt that.
Reggie holds all the cards here.
This is almost definitely a ploy by Criner’s agent.
July 28th, 2012 at 1:03 pm
The difference is Bratton was at 1 point an early round talent.This guy had no injuries,no issues and still lasted until the 6th round.
July 28th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
Bush a “battering ram”?
Ha.
Chicago radio guys talking bout how they now have their short yardage guy.
I’ve got some tape for ‘em to watch.
July 28th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
Waiting out a year is a horrendous idea.
You want to start that clock towards your 2nd contract ASAP.
Pushing it back a year, just pushes back that clock.
Not to mention the time value of money. He signs this deal and is wise with some of his money and investments, he could probably earn close to 5-10K on interest this year.
Don’t be an idiot Criner!!!!
July 28th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
Bush a “battering ram”?
Ha.
Chicago radio guys talking bout how they now have their short yardage guy.
I’ve got some tape for ‘em to watch.
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The funny/sad thing is Bush could be that back, but simply doesn’t want to.
July 28th, 2012 at 1:06 pm
Hope the owners get together and blackball Criner if he “holds out” over 14k.
It wouldn’t be collusion it’s just be based on his trying to crack the new CBA.
July 28th, 2012 at 1:06 pm
What is Chicago paying each year for Forte/Bush? 11.5 Mil combined..lol
July 28th, 2012 at 1:06 pm
If Criner is actually dumb enough to sit out the year, he will have proven that he is both a diva and has horrible judgement. He’d be lucky to go in next year’s seventh.
July 28th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
I hope he’s not dumb enough to sit out.geez
July 28th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
What is Chicago paying each year for Forte/Bush? 11.5 Mil combined..lol
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And amazingly, both of them seem a tad ticked off and miffed about their role and/or contract.
July 28th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
JFB
LMAO They have 2 good RB’s who dislike the team and are paying them big.
July 28th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
waklaboo Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
Wow! Is that true? Big Reggie missed out on the character screening issue big time. Potential headache midway through his contract.
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Huh????
The guy was a projected 2nd rd pic.
He lasted to the 5th rd.
Was he even on the Raidar to be screened???
Did we even interview him before the draft?
July 28th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
Ahhh…..a Barry Zito start.
Where you can stroll in 3 batters late for the first pitch and it is already 2-0, lol.
When he is on the bump, I have about the same level of optimism as watching Jamarcus drop back on 3rd and 13.
July 28th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
The guy was a projected 2nd rd pic.
He lasted to the 5th rd.
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Well, maybe we are beginning to see why.
July 28th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
Bush can be very effective at times.
He’s very dangerous swinging out of the backfield. Good hands, and he’s a load to bring down once he hits the second level.
Despite the talk about him getting winded, he’s also shown that he can wear down a defense, in an individual game, due to his bulk if given enough carries.
Goal line running ? Not very impressive.
Endurance over an entire season ? Suspect.
July 28th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
Raider O Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
Marks Hair Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
83. It might be his only contract..
$$$$$$$$$$$
Great point. I think Reggie should give it to him. He is not asking for much, and he is not asking for 3rd or 4th round money.
Pay the man!!
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You can’t just “pay the man”. It’s not about 14 grrr. There is a new system in place that pays new players according to their draft slot status. As soon as one team ignores that it sets a precedent, and then all bets are off and players can start screwing around and demanding whatever they want even tho they have not played a down which is what the league is trying to stop. Don’t be a dummass.
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Completely right. Great post! The entire reason why the league hated Al was because he would always give players overblown contracts.
July 28th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
Once you give a player an overblown contract it’s like the prisoners running the asylum
July 28th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
I am not sure where the “diva”talk is coming.
Does anyone on this blog have any insight on his issues in college or at Raider camp being a “diva”?
July 28th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
This is where agents just get in the way.
Criner could have just hired a contract lawyer for about $500 to review the initial offer, and he would be better off.
You don’t need an agent until you are looking at FA.
July 28th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
Running back Michael Bush could certainly be an every-down back, proving it by running for 839 yards in the final ten games with the Oakland Raiders last season. The Chicago Bears were sold on Bush’s ability, signing him to a four-year, $14 million contract in March as an insurance policy in case Matt Forte’s contract stalemate lingered into the season.
Forte was signed a multiyear deal, which means that Bush will be used as a complementary back. At 6-foot-1 and 245 pounds, Bush can expect to do a lot of the dirty work, a role he’s not exactly thrilled about filling.
“That’s the role I’ve been stuck with because of my size. But if that’s what I have to do, that’s what I have to do,” Bush said, via the Chicago Tribune. “No one likes to be a battering ram. It just happens that way.”
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And once again, here is Mike Bush crying about his supposed role in Chicago.
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There,there Mikey. It will all be better in Dec. when it’s minus 20 degrees and Soldier Field is frozen as hard as a rock.
There,there.
July 28th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
I hope saving 14k is worth the distraction, players and their agents thinking our GM is cheap, and pissing off a young player with potential who will remember this when he is a FA.
July 28th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
I guess all the owners(most of who made their money as businessmen),lawyers,and others who hammered out the CBA and agreed to the new system just don’t understand business.LMAO
July 28th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
Just sweeten Criner’s contract with an extra 10 grand for every TD he catches in regular season. Also an extra 2 grand for every TD in preseason. That should do it.
July 28th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
Well, maybe we are beginning to see why.
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100% speculation…
Unless we can hear or see something, not buying the line.
July 28th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
It isn’t about $14 grand.It is about complying with the new system.Is it really that difficult to understand?
July 28th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
Raider O Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
I hope saving 14k is worth the distraction, players and their agents thinking our GM is cheap, and pissing off a young player with potential who will remember this when he is a FA.
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Look at the other side. We could SPEND the 14K and piss off both Burris and Bergstrom (who undoubtedly had to accept their initial offers), as well send a message that the GM will fold if you push him hard enough.
July 28th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
Criner will be and camp, and continue to rip.
Hopefully put an end to the “diva” talk.
July 28th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
Let Criner and Streater ball for the 14K!
July 28th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
Thec Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
Criner will be and camp, and continue to rip.
Hopefully put an end to the “diva” talk.
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I hope you’re right.
July 28th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
So creates this intrigue? The player, agent or both?
July 28th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
Talk about jumping over a $20 to grab a $5.
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lol
Sign the damn contract, Juron!
July 28th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
Criner’s agent is an ass if he fed this story to ESPN, and that’s almost certainly the case.
Going to piss off Reggie by attempting to make him look like a tightwad and alienate your client’s probable employer ?
Over what ? 14k ?
Hey Juron, there’s something called being smart and playing your cards right.
You’re not sitting out the season. You’re not even sitting out camp.
You’ve got ZERO leverage.
You don’t have to be happy about it (although you should be), but grab the 144k get your ass in camp, and dump the moron you hired as your agent.
July 28th, 2012 at 1:25 pm
100% speculation…
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That’s why I said “maybe” lol
Honestly, I think he is getting bad advice, and not realizing 14K is not what it seems now, and is peanuts to what he stands to make over his career and what not.
July 28th, 2012 at 1:25 pm
If guys know they’re NFL talent, please go to school for business/accounting and manage your own money.
July 28th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
Just because its a good business for the owners it doesn’t mean it’s good business for everyone else involved.
I’m sure tagging players is great business for them.
LMAO at your ignorance.
July 28th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
So who creates this intrigue?
The player, agent or both?
July 28th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
You want an agent, or sometype of “Agency”, when you are a FA and fielding all those calls, and go over signing bonus, guarantee’s, and all that jazz.
As a rookie draft pick in a slotted system? Go to legalzoom.
July 28th, 2012 at 1:28 pm
Excuse me, if Players know in college that they’re NFL talent, why not major in something to avoid agents?
July 28th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
First Javon, then Jamarcus, nor Juron.
If our buddy Criner doesn’t work out, let’s just skip over the J’s for a hot minute.
July 28th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
I doubt Criner is that dumb to let this amount of money get in the way of him missing 1 day of camp.
He will sign, and report on sunday.
July 28th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
Thec Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
So who creates this intrigue?
The player, agent or both?
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The agent is in the player’s ear, but in the end it’s both. You have to expect Criner to have been informed about the compensatory contract standards. Or at least one would hope…
In either case, 14k is a ridiculous amount to squabble over. As others have said, peanuts!
July 28th, 2012 at 1:31 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
You want an agent, or sometype of “Agency”, when you are a FA and fielding all those calls, and go over signing bonus, guarantee’s, and all that jazz.
As a rookie draft pick in a slotted system? Go to legalzoom.
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I remember reading a few years ago that some NBA players with max contracts coming up were firing their agents, negotiating their own deals and just hiring entertainment lawyers to go over the legal P’s and Q’s. Even if your lawyer costs $2,000/hr and he spends 80 hours working on it, $160,000 is a lot less than $10 million or whatever.
July 28th, 2012 at 1:31 pm
TxRaider210 Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 1:28 pm
Excuse me, if Players know in college that they’re NFL talent, why not major in something to avoid agents?
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Thats the part I never understood.
If I am a talent, and sought after why give some lawyer and his group 10% cut esp in a slotted system?
July 28th, 2012 at 1:31 pm
Raider O Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
I hope saving 14k is worth the distraction, players and their agents thinking our GM is cheap, and pissing off a young player with potential who will remember this when he is a FA.
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C’mon you think vets like seymour respect a rookie holding out for 14k. I’d rather have my GM be thought a penny pincher than soft and easily taken. This is a leaugue for men not wimps
July 28th, 2012 at 1:31 pm
He will sign, and report on sunday.
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Agree in an extent, but I think it will be early Monday and we won’t show until Tuesday.
And he will be sans his precious 14K
July 28th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
In either case, 14k is a ridiculous amount to squabble over. As others have said, peanuts!
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Agreed…
July 28th, 2012 at 1:34 pm
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Agree in an extent, but I think it will be early Monday and we won’t show until Tuesday.
And he will be sans his precious 14K
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he will be in camp on sunday.
July 28th, 2012 at 1:36 pm
C’mon you think vets like seymour respect a rookie holding out for 14k. I’d rather have my GM be thought a penny pincher than soft and easily taken. This is a leaugue for men not wimps
$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Some of those Vets did the same thing.
July 28th, 2012 at 1:36 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 1:31 pm
He will sign, and report on sunday.
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Agree in an extent, but I think it will be early Monday and we won’t show until Tuesday.
And he will be sans his precious 14K
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Regardless of which side went public, Reggie CANNOT give in now. When Criner shows up, it will be for the $144,000 and not one penny more.
July 28th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
First Javon, then Jamarcus, nor Juron.
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GTFOH…What about Jon, Jacoby, and Jared????
July 28th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
Let’s be fair.
This headline could just as easily read “Raiders refuse to sign Criner over 14,000 dollars”
Now that I’ve been fair….I’ll revert back to what I said all along.
Criner and his OTA time means little to nothing. This game is played with pads on….
Seems like Criner is trying to take advantage of his already productive OTA time…..
LOL
Way to go Reggie….don’t budge on this prima donna!
July 28th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
Some of the semis in here could have done a better job as Juron’s agent, maybe for a tad less money.lol
July 28th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
Criner’s agent: We need another 14k to sign.
Reggie: I’ve made you a very fair offer. Right in line with what a supplemental pick at the end of the 5th gets. What’s the problem ?
Criner’s agent: We want to get paid as if it wasn’t a supplemental pick.
Reggie: But it WAS a supplemental pick.
Criner’s agent: More dough or I can’t advise my client to sign.
Reggie: Ball is in your court.
Guaranteed something like that went down.
And what’s the agent do ? Leaks to the press.
Playing hardball with no leverage.
Bluffing up the wrong tree.
End result ? Criner will cave. Agent exposed as a moron. Reggie laughing his ass off.
July 28th, 2012 at 1:39 pm
Now Reg should offer Criner 143,999.99 lol
July 28th, 2012 at 1:39 pm
Some of those Vets did the same thing.
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They also saw the writing on the wall with the new GM.
July 28th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
Way to go Reggie….don’t budge on this prima donna!
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He is a donna based on what?
July 28th, 2012 at 1:44 pm
Thec Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
Way to go Reggie….don’t budge on this prima donna!
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He is a donna based on what?
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Based on him holding out for more money when he’s a rookie 5th rounder?
July 28th, 2012 at 1:44 pm
8-they also did it when it was the acceptable practice.Now,under the new CBA,that sh!t has been addressed and steps were taken to make sure it didn’t continue to happen.This fundamental is too difficult for some to understand.
July 28th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
One idiot calls Criner a Diva, and You People assume he is one.
The man is trying to get an additional 10%, it’s not like he is asking for 2nd round money, and that makes him a diva?
July 28th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
He is a donna based on what?
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Based on the fact the other 33 supplemental draft picks are all signed and didn’t ask for this.
The two guys drafted behind him, signed for the 144K in May,lol.
That was two months ago!!!
July 28th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
Based on him holding out for more money when he’s a rookie 5th rounder?
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He has not held out yet. Report time is tommorrow.
July 28th, 2012 at 1:48 pm
$14,000 ? WTH I could use that to buy some cream for this nasty rash, so I guess that all makes sense. You hold your ground Criner. Good cream aint cheap.
July 28th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
Maybe the 26 yo rookie OG is a diva too. Who knows why it took so long to sign him.
You People….
July 28th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
Reg should set up an hour glass on his desk and tell Criner and his agent they’re on the clock.
July 28th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
Criner wanting to maximize what he gets doesn’t make him a diva or a prima donna.
Going to these lengths and fighting over a paltry 14k, when his main concern should be to grab the 144k, get in camp and start balling towards a better payday in the future, makes him shortsighted and silly.
Time to play some football, scarecrow.
July 28th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
Yeah lefty,
A rookie holding out is just too stupid when all the contracts are slotted. This isnt even a first rounder. He’s technically the only one that hasnt signed of all the picks. This is rediculous.
July 28th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
Bergstrom signed before camp, Criner has not.
July 28th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
criner will only hurt himself by missing camp. with all the comp at wr I dont think he can afforrd to miss too many reps
July 28th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
Raider O Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
Maybe the 26 yo rookie OG is a diva too. Who knows why it took so long to sign him.
You People….
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The 26-year-old rookie OG isn’t publicly threatening to hold out unless he gets more money than the slotting system allows for.
July 28th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
Bergs was the ONLY supplemental 3rd round pick, and the first supplemental pick.
Criner was one of three, 5th round supp picks.
The other two took the 144K and signed in May.
July 28th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
JFB
Precisely, Criner play by the rules fool!
July 28th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
Contract negotiations aside, what historical evidence do we have that sugest he is a diva or a donna???
July 28th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
If Criner signed in May like the other two 5th round supp picks, and put his 144K in a simple Index fund in the stock market, he damn near would have made the 14K already, lol.
July 28th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
Thec Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
Contract negotiations aside, what historical evidence do we have that sugest he is a diva or a donna???
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“Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how did you like the play?”
July 28th, 2012 at 1:55 pm
I dont know about bergs the guy was a grown man going up against kids he should have been more dominant imo.
July 28th, 2012 at 1:55 pm
The 26-year-old rookie OG isn’t publicly threatening to hold out unless he gets more money than the slotting system allows for.
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Post a link that says he publicly threatend to hold out?
July 28th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/id/46099/bonus-dispute-root-of-criner-delay
“According to the source, Criner likely will not sign until the issue is resolved.”
July 28th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
Hey Steve and Jerry, who do semis send the resumes to in order to help these kids with their finances?lol Worst case scenario you land a Cromartie-type, and have to pay all the baby-mommas.
July 28th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 1:55 pm
I dont know about bergs the guy was a grown man going up against kids he should have been more dominant imo.
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He was first-team All-Pac 12. How much more dominant do you want???
July 28th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
“Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how did you like the play?”
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Oh, so you got nothing…Thats what I thought…
July 28th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
wonder if reggie sees this a some kind of negotiation manipulation or speculation for compensation. either way, bowel irritation and butt crack sanitation are good reasons for contemplation.
July 28th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/id/46099/bonus-dispute-root-of-criner-delay
“According to the source, Criner likely will not sign until the issue is resolved.”
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You stated earlier HE publically threated… Who is the source? Is it criber, agent, ice cream man????
July 28th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
I bet bush was thinking the bears wouldnt resign forte and he would get to be the man. HA see how that worked for him now your stuck in frigid chi town as a back up i dont about yall but i would have stayed in cali behind mcfragile.
July 28th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
Peter Schaffer is Criners agent. He is also an advisor to the NFLPA. Sounds like he’s testing McKenzie, hoping he’ll fold and weaken the new rules. I think he picked the wrong guy.
July 28th, 2012 at 2:01 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 1:55 pm
I dont know about bergs the guy was a grown man going up against kids he should have been more dominant imo.
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He was first-team All-Pac 12. How much more dominant do you want???
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how about a being a first round pick O
July 28th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82ae0758/article/michael-bush-hopes-for-bigger-role-with-chicago-bears?module=HP11_headline_stack
July 28th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
The folks on this blog have ZERO idea what is going on behind the scences however, Criner is a “diva” and a “donna”….
ROFLMAO…
July 28th, 2012 at 2:03 pm
Somewhere Rod Streater is Smiling!
July 28th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
If Criner signed in May like the other two 5th round supp picks, and put his 144K in a simple Index fund in the stock market, he damn near would have made the 14K already, lol.
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Index fund offers a 10% return in 2 months? Hook me up brother!
LOL
July 28th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
Criner’s agent: I’m advising you not to accept the Raider offer. They need to up it by 14k.
Juron: OK, but what do we do in the meantime ?
Agent-Ahole: We sit out til they pony up.
Juron: But won’t I miss camp ?
Agent-Ahole: Yeah, but they need you and will come to their senses.
Juron: Where’s my source of income right now ?
Agent-Ahole: Don’t worry about it. I’ll give you a low interest advance.
Juron: And this is all over 14k ?
Agent-Ahole: Yep.
Juron (if he’s smart) Well, Fk that noise, and Fk you too. You’re fired.
July 28th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
Thec Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
“Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how did you like the play?”
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Oh, so you got nothing…Thats what I thought.
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Criner and/or his agent are threatening (via the media) to hold out because he thinks the slotting system applies to everyone but him. Sounds pretty “Diva” to me.
July 28th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82ade556/article/jerry-rice-49ers-need-to-take-the-diaper-off-alex-smith?module=HP11_content_stream
July 28th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
Index fund offers a 10% return in 2 months
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Depending on when you cherry-pick your price in May, the Dow or S & P are up close to 7-8% as we sit today.
July 28th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
2c-it is an obvious attempt to weaken and circumvent the new CBA.You’d have thought the NFLPA could have chosen a higher profile guy to try it.
July 28th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
If Criner signed in May like the other two 5th round supp picks, and put his 144K in a simple Index fund in the stock market, he damn near would have made the 14K already, lol.
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Wrong, they dont start etting paid until they report to camp.
July 28th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
Criner and/or his agent are threatening (via the media) to hold out because he thinks the slotting system applies to everyone but him. Sounds pretty “Diva” to me.
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Thats your opinion…Keep it when he is balling out, making plays, catching TD’s….
July 28th, 2012 at 2:08 pm
Wrong, they dont start etting paid until they report to camp.
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I do believe you get your signing bonus at signing.
July 28th, 2012 at 2:08 pm
118-nobody here gives a rats arse about the Whiners.I believe you are on the wrong site.
July 28th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
Thec Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
Criner and/or his agent are threatening (via the media) to hold out because he thinks the slotting system applies to everyone but him. Sounds pretty “Diva” to me.
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Thats your opinion…Keep it when he is balling out, making plays, catching TD’s….
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He won’t be doing ANY of that if he doesn’t come to his senses and sign the deal.
July 28th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
Hold outs are not in the players best interest, only the agents. Don’t blame Criner. Just like JaRussell when he held out, not his fault but the agent. And look how bad it hurt Russell. He never overcame the time he missed cuz of the holdout. Was always a step behind.
July 28th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
144k in the hand is worth a lot more than 158k in the bush.
July 28th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
Poor JaMoron.
July 28th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
He won’t be doing ANY of that if he doesn’t come to his senses and sign the deal.
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The young man wants to play ball, he will sign, and ball out…
Everytime he makesa play, you will be reminded…
July 28th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
HOLLA
i’ll be at training camp practice on monday with my girlfriend. we gonna rock. gonna sport my raidah tank top and my walmart floppers.
FO SHIZZLE PIZZLE
July 28th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
Come on Juron, fire that scumbag agent of yours and play football.
July 28th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
The agent works FOR the player,not the other way around.There isn’t a lot of negotiations for rookies with the new agreement.Their pay and signing bonuses are essentially set.He could tell his agent to sign and perhaps that will happen before practices start.BTW,they report today,attend classes(meetings) tomorrow, and hit the field Monday.
July 28th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
Chico,
Is that risk adjusted? lol
8% return in a few months. Where do I sign?
July 28th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
8% return in a few months. Where do I sign?
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Hell the market moved almost 3% from Wednesday, lol.
What’s that annualized?
July 28th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
Peter Schaffer is Criners agent. He is also an advisor to the NFLPA.
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This is a completely erroneous report.
Criner’s agent is none other than Ronaldo McBadbiz.
July 28th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
hit the field Monday
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Unless something else is going on, I expect him to be on the field monday. Holding out for 14 snacks does not sound right. Has to be something else going on behind the shield…
July 28th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
Peter Schaffer is Criners agent. He is also an advisor to the NFLPA.
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This is a completely erroneous report.
Criner’s agent is none other than Ronaldo McBadbiz.
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JCRINER is Fked from the start if McCheese has anthing to do with the deal.LMAO
July 28th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
Meetings are also important.
July 28th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
Time for me to get the H outta dodge…
All you guys enjoy the day, get some sun.
JCRINER will sign, and be in camp before monday.
I just hate this politcal intrigue.
1 NATION
July 28th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
Raider O Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
One idiot calls Criner a Diva, and You People assume he is one.
The man is trying to get an additional 10%, it’s not like he is asking for 2nd round money, and that makes him a diva?
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Raider HO you are not much on thinking are you? There are 12 count them, 12 players in the ENTIRE DRAFT that are currently unsigned. One is a third rounder the rest are all lst and 2nd rounders. Then there is a 6th rounder. Criner. You can’t even really call him a 5th rounder because the 5th round came and went and he wasn’t taken. Why don’t you encourage him to hold out for lst rounder money since basically the ones left.
July 28th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
Meetings are also important.
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Him reporting today is important… I am not making light any second missed…
July 28th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
Thec Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
Everytime he makes a play, you will be reminded…
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Reminded of what? When we said “Sign” and he signed?
July 28th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSe7d0t_XKo
RAIDERSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
July 28th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
Thec Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
Everytime he makes a play, you will be reminded…
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Reminded of what? When we said “Sign” and he signed?
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That sure was a great catch by the “diva”…
July 28th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
Thec Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
Everytime he makes a play, you will be reminded…
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Reminded of what? When we said “Sign” and he signed?
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Wow, that “Prima Donna” JCRINER balled out today…
July 28th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
Criner isn’t entitled to schit, other guys signed for the same and are probably happy to play a game for a living.
July 28th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
Shrug. If he signs he will have proven that he is no longer a diva or prima donna.
July 28th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
if pick 1 gets 3 dollars and pick 3 get 1 dollar then our hypothetical pick 2 criner should get 2 dollars.. He shouldnt get paid 1 dollar just because pick 2 is compensatory.. Pay him his slot. Its only another 14k…
July 28th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
By the news rules, it’s not his slot and Reg made the right offer.
July 28th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
New post.
July 28th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
Then there is a 6th rounder. Criner. You can’t even really call him a 5th rounder because the 5th round came and went and he wasn’t taken.
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LMAO
Your ignorance is amazing seymour Biotch!
July 28th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
My friend coached him in HS and he was an entitled POS. In fact, he transferred to Canyon Springs HS after his 10th grade season and the coaches were glad to see him go, in spite of his huge talent. Criner is a gifted athlete with great hands, Hopefully his attitude will not prevent him from fulfilling his huge potential. There was a reason, besides his speed, that he was available to take in the 5th.
July 29th, 2012 at 3:17 am
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July 29th, 2012 at 7:16 am
A fifth round pick holding out?? He doesn’t pass the dumbass test.
Trade him now.
July 29th, 2012 at 9:08 am
Al would have already made him the highest paid wr in the league.