Jones ready to bust out in second season
By Steve Corkran
Saturday, July 28th, 2012 at 5:16 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Running back Taiwan Jones touched the ball 18 times in the 10 regular-season games he played in 2011. Now that backup back Michael Bush is gone and Jones is healthy, combined with a new offensive scheme, Jones said he expects to see quite a bit more action.
“Just from hearing (coach) Dennis Allen talk, he wants to run the ball,” Jones said soon after his arrival at training camp in Napa on Saturday. “And the offense that we’ve got installed, they’ve got a lot of run game, so I believe there will be more than one running back getting touches.”
Last season, it was Darren McFadden doing most of the touching of the ball last season, at least until he suffered a season-ending foot injury. From there, the workload fell upon Bush.
McFadden is healthy once again, and he no doubt will resume the role as the lead back. One of the burning questions that needs answering during training camp is whether Jones or recently acquired back Mike Goodson is next in line.
Jones arrived in tip-top shape, weighing about the same as he did last season (198 pounds) and fresh from an offseason spent working out with personal trainer Terrell Gaines in Los Angeles.
Jones said he isn’t taking any chances after missing considerable time in training camp last year and the final six regular-season games with a hamstring injury.
“You’ve got to know to listen to your body and also eating right and stretching and taking care of yourself, as far as massages and doing ice baths and things like that,” Jones said.
As for the conversion to the zone-blocking scheme, Jones said that fits his game well, given he likes to make one cut, get into the open field and let his speed take over.
“Yeah, most definitely,” Jones said. “That’s a big part of my game is the one cut and go. Everybody knows that I’m a speed guy and I’m able to stop on the go and change direction, so this plays well for me.”
For now, Goodson and Jones are competing for the vacancy created by the departure of Bush in free agency. How well they fare in camp and Oakland’s four exhibition games will be the determining factors.
Jones said he is ready to assert himself and show people why the Raiders selected him in the 2011 NFL draft.
“When Michael Bush left, I felt like there was more demand on me needing to step up to help this offense,” Jones said.
In a vast departure from the past several decades, the Raiders handed out media guides on the first day of training camp.
Of particular ntoe, the media guide features colors other than black, silver and white for the first time. In short, it’s an impressive guide.
Also, no mention of past catchphrases such as “commitment to excellence” and “the greatness of the Raiders.” Instead, in block letters on page 6 is the motto: “THE FUTURE IS NOW. A NEW ERA OF EXCELLENCE.”
To realize how much things have changed in one year, this is the first training camp in a long, long time without the likes of late owner Al Davis and senior executive John Herrera, as well as the addition of a media tent on the field.
It’s all part of the Raiders massive effort to overhaul the organization. So far, all the changes appear positive and paint the Raiders in a positive light.
Numerous national media have commented on how refreshing the changes are.
Thinking back to last year at this time, it does seem rather stunning how much things have changed.
Mark Davis is the owner, Allen the coach, Jason Tarver the defensive coordinator, Greg Knapp the offensive coordinator, Carson Palmer the quarterback and the roster chock full of new faces.
The coaches went through a walk-through on the fields Saturday afternoon, getting a feel for the layout and the environs that they will call home for the next three weeks or so.
The players won’t hit the fields until Sunday, when they will be put through a conditioning test. The first practice is Monday. The first padded practice isn’t scheduled until Wednesday.
Coach Allen will speak with the media for the first time in Napa on Sunday afternoon.
Right offensive tackle Khalif Barnes said he knew two weeks ago that assistant offensive line coach Steve Wisniewksi wasn’t sticking around this season.
On Thursday, the Raiders announced Wisniewski’s resignation because of “personal reasons.”
Left offensive tackle Jared Veldheer said he intends to keep in touch with Wisniewski, who was a huge influence on his career.
“He was a big help,” Veldheer said. “I was able to learn a lot of little technique things, and he was able to help me a lot. So, I’d like to maintain that relationship with him because I know he’s still in the area. Obviously, he helped, and now, for whatever reasons, had to step away from it. We all wish him the best, and we’re going to move on with what’s to be had now.”
Barnes said he gleaned quite a bit from his time learning from Wisniewski.
“he texted me a couple of weeks ago, and I was surprised to hear it,” Barnes said. “He wished me all the best. I wished him all the best. Wiz, I know he was special to me. When he first came in, he gave me some of his 13 years of experience and knowledge, and how it was to be in the trenches.
“I don’t think anyone did it better to him when he was with the Raiders. Talk to some old defensive players, and they’ll tell you they didn’t like to play against that guy at all. He was rough in there. I wish him all the best and I hope to see him around from time to time.”
Veldheer said the Raiders offensive line remains in capable hands with Frank Pollack at the helm.
“I’m really excited to continue to work with him through the summer here and get ready for the season,” Veldheer said. “He’s helped us out with a bunch of stuff. As far as breaking it down in the classroom and on the field, he’s been great.”
As for life without Al Davis, Veldheer said the goal that Davis set each year remains the same.
“It’s probably going to be a little different (without Davis around),” Velhdeer said. “That’s to be expected, I suppose. But, we’re moving forward and moving in the right direction and, obviously, going for a championship.”
Raiders fifth-round draft pick Juron Criner is one of only three draftees leaguewide that remain unsigned. The two others also are wide receivers. One important difference, though: Justin Blackmon (Jacksonville Jaguars) and Kendall Wright (Tennessee Titans) were selected in the first round.
As mentioned earlier, ESPN reported that Criner and the Raiders are $14,000 apart in the signing bonus portion of Criner’s contract negotiations.
Criner has until Sunday morning to report. If he fails to report by that time, then he is considered a holdout of sorts. Difficult to say a player is holding out if he doesn’t have a contract but, in essence, that’s what it amounts to.
With the new Collective Bargaining Agreement limiting teams to one padded practice per day, there’s a premium on getting as much out of that practice as possible.
Defensive lineman Dave Tollefson ought to know what it takes to be successful. He arrives after a five-year stint with the New York Giants in which he earned two Super Bowl rings.
“It’s on us,” Tollefson said. “It’s not on coach (Allen), it’s up to the players to enforce that amongst ourselves that work is being done and we’re getting better because now, more than ever, a wasted day can hurt you. You’ve got to take advantage of every single day you have on the field, whether that’s a walk-through or a padded practice. Obviously, the walk-throughs become exponentially more important now than ever so you’ve got to make sure you take advantage of that.”
Quote of the day: “I kind of am what I usually am. I probably dropped a few. What are you saying, do I look good? — Barnes, when asked if he lost any weight during the offseason
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July 28th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
Cornfucious glad to see Reggie big man and doesnt like shake down. Criner need to tell agent where bear shіts in woods.
July 28th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
Kyle Boller has retired. The NFL won’t be the same withou…actually, it will.
July 28th, 2012 at 5:20 pm
Cornfucious dont like holdout. Not good for palyer to miss training. And all the meals at training camp. Lots of good food. Lots of it.
July 28th, 2012 at 5:21 pm
Stanford Routt@SRoutt26
Red and Yellow!! #ChiefsNation
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Fk this muthafka
C’MON Criner sign and burn this muthafka when we play him
July 28th, 2012 at 5:25 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
Screw Criner. Let him sit and not make ANY money.
5th rounder “holding out”?
Raiders have the rights to him so make him sit the rest of his life.
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If he doesn’t sign before next April’s draft, he goes back into the pool. Doubt anyone would take a chance on him at that point, though.
July 28th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
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Criners’ agent ‘thinking’ about what to do next.
July 28th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
DHB, Moore, Ford, and Criner are going to make Stanley look Silly, burnt toast
July 28th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
#2,
The NFL just got a little bit better i think.
July 28th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
yo
July 28th, 2012 at 5:37 pm
“It’s on us,” Tollefson said. “It’s not on coach (Allen), it’s up to the players to enforce that amongst ourselves that work is being done and we’re getting better because now, more than ever, a wasted day can hurt you. You’ve got to take advantage of every single day you have on the field, whether that’s a walk-through or a padded practice. Obviously, the walk-throughs become exponentially more important now than ever so you’ve got to make sure you take advantage of that.”
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Effing around is going to hurt Criner. It’s going to hurt his preparation, his knowledge of what is going on and his position on the depth chart. He might have shined in 7 on 7’s or in passing drills, but he has never had Ed Reed or Polamalu or Adrian Wilson bearing down on him while he is waiting for the ball to arrive. After he has proven he can shine in those circumstances, he should get his ass in here and work on getting better.
July 28th, 2012 at 5:37 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
Kyle Boller has retired. The NFL won’t be the same withou…actually, it will.
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Read just today that Boller had signed with San Diego.
July 28th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
5.RaiderDuck Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 5:25 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
Screw Criner. Let him sit and not make ANY money.
5th rounder “holding out”?
Raiders have the rights to him so make him sit the rest of his life.
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If he doesn’t sign before next April’s draft, he goes back into the pool. Doubt anyone would take a chance on him at that point, though.
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I almost wish I didn’t think Criner was that good. I think he is…I’d prefer this gets done but I really don’t like him based on what i’m seeing with this crap.
HE could tell his agent just to get this done so he can get to camp….but he isn’t.
Does he realize he’s the only non 1st rounder not to sign?
Who the he!! does this guy think he is. At least play a few downs in a real NFL game before “holding out”.
I think this WILL get done but it’s not gonna make me like him any better.
I’ll like it if and when he scores some td’s for us…but he hasn’t done jack squat yet so until he does…i’m ticked.
July 28th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
Oldschoolraider Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 5:37 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
Kyle Boller has retired. The NFL won’t be the same withou…actually, it will.
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Read just today that Boller had signed with San Diego.
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He was with the Chargers for one day, then hung it up.
July 28th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
I am all in with the “new era”.
Don’t fck with Mr. McKenzie.
This is a lean, mean, silver and black ass kicking machine!
July 28th, 2012 at 5:56 pm
Stanford Routt@SRoutt26
Red and Yellow!! #ChiefsNation
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route is on drugs these days? wtf is a “chefsnation”???
chefnation = easter bunny… sht does not exist.
July 28th, 2012 at 5:58 pm
Levi Damien @LeviDamien on Boller
RT @Soanation: @LeviDamien it’s that bad over there — if my OT’s were Mario Henderson and Jeremy Clary I might retire too.
July 28th, 2012 at 6:02 pm
Effing around is going to hurt Criner. It’s going to hurt his preparation, his knowledge of what is going on and his position on the depth chart.
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Get ya azz in camp ASAP
July 28th, 2012 at 6:03 pm
Raiders fifth-round draft pick Juron Criner is one of only three draftees leaguewide that remain unsigned. The two others also are wide receivers. One important difference, though: Justin Blackmon (Jacksonville Jaguars) and Kendall Wright (Tennessee Titans) were selected in the first round.
As mentioned earlier, ESPN reported that Criner and the Raiders are $14,000 apart in the signing bonus portion of Criner’s contract negotiations.
Criner has until Sunday morning to report. If he fails to report by that time, then he is considered a holdout
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if Criner isn’t a Raider in 2 days, he’s considered a knucklehead in my book!!
July 28th, 2012 at 6:05 pm
The Chargers are now back in the market for a camp arm.
-PFT
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trade Matt Leinart to SD for a “conditional” pick !!
July 28th, 2012 at 6:07 pm
Eagles WR Riley Cooper suffers broken collarbone
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trade sleepy smurf #12 to Philly for a “conditional” pick !!
July 28th, 2012 at 6:09 pm
@DAV
Orlando Magic = Spurs Southeast ??
July 28th, 2012 at 6:16 pm
trade sleepy smurf #12 to Philly for a “conditional” pick !!
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no way
July 28th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
20
Conditional 2nd, I would think about it
July 28th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
Not for conditional 7th, you would have to be high
July 28th, 2012 at 6:20 pm
This Criner kid kid could be really good. Holding out when you haven’t played a down makes me want to give him a high five………. in the face………. with a chair!
July 28th, 2012 at 6:22 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 6:05 pm
The Chargers are now back in the market for a camp arm.
-PFT
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trade Matt Leinart to SD for a “conditional” pick !!
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A week ago i would have been for this type of gesture however, given the fact that TPRYOR has experienced 2 deaths in less than a week, 1 his mentor, the other his father, I am not sure where he is going to be emotionally.
July 28th, 2012 at 6:27 pm
criner burn routt are you kidding? criner is the next jerry porter only slower bring back murphy!
July 28th, 2012 at 6:30 pm
Hey Steve, and Jerry can we get an update on TPRYOR?
July 28th, 2012 at 6:30 pm
Whew! Long article. Ejoyed reading. Thank you Cork!
July 28th, 2012 at 6:30 pm
It’s not hard to burn Routt. His nickname isn’t toast for nothing.
July 28th, 2012 at 6:31 pm
oops….I enjoyed the article. Thanks Cork!
July 28th, 2012 at 6:32 pm
Evidently Boller will be retired as a Charger:
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/eye-on-football/19677972/report-kyle-boller-retires-one-day-after-signing-with-chargers
Good for him!
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Oldschoolraider Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 5:37 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
Kyle Boller has retired. The NFL won’t be the same withou…actually, it will.
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Read just today that Boller had signed with San Diego.
July 28th, 2012 at 6:32 pm
Quote of the day: “I kind of am what I usually am.”
–Khalif Barnes
Uh oh.
July 28th, 2012 at 6:32 pm
14K!? is chump change, it’s Carson Palmer’s monthly sushi tab at the Market in Del Mar.
WTF, this Juron dude is a 5th rounder and is already acting like Mike Wallace.
Trade Criner straight up for Wallace, right?
July 28th, 2012 at 6:34 pm
morilla routt was arguably the top 5 cb in the league…burning routt is harder than most of these knuckeheads think…
July 28th, 2012 at 6:34 pm
I’m kind of surprised by Criners actions. Every interview I’ve seen of him paints him as a grounded and humble individual.
The dude needs a reality check. He hasn’t proven anything yet, and all over 14k? Thy doesn’t look good.
July 28th, 2012 at 6:36 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 6:27 pm
criner burn routt are you kidding? criner is the next jerry porter only slower bring back murphy!
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He is no burner, but he will make Routt look silly and the rest of the crew will burn his @ss
July 28th, 2012 at 6:37 pm
Last year Routt was flat out horrible. He plays the ball like a octopus with a neck brace on. What did he have, 17 penalties?
The team won’t miss him.
July 28th, 2012 at 6:37 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 6:34 pm
morilla routt was arguably the top 5 cb in the league…burning routt is harder than most of these knuckeheads think…
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Top 5 CBs don’t lead the league in penalties or have his burn rate.
July 28th, 2012 at 6:38 pm
@Thec
1 – King Darrius
2 – DMo17
3 – Streater
4 – Higgins
5 – McGee
6 – Calhoun
playoffs !!
July 28th, 2012 at 6:38 pm
No it isn’t! The guy led the league in getting burnt and committing PI penalties.
Glad to see “Toast” go.
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Al_is_theraiders Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 6:34 pm
morilla routt was arguably the top 5 cb in the league…burning routt is harder than most of these knuckeheads think…
July 28th, 2012 at 6:39 pm
*he
July 28th, 2012 at 6:39 pm
Sh*t and I ain’t even high yet!
July 28th, 2012 at 6:39 pm
44th
July 28th, 2012 at 6:39 pm
45th
July 28th, 2012 at 6:40 pm
46th
July 28th, 2012 at 6:40 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 6:38 pm
@Thec
1 – King Darrius
2 – DMo17
3 – Streater
4 – Higgins
5 – McGee
6 – Calhoun
playoffs !!
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Higgs? what are you sipping, syrup???
July 28th, 2012 at 6:41 pm
1 – Moore
2 – Ford
3 – DHB
4 – Streater
5 – McGee
6 – Calhoun
July 28th, 2012 at 6:43 pm
JLH = solid receiver, excellent return man
July 28th, 2012 at 6:44 pm
1 – King Darrius
2 – DMo17
3 – Streater
4 – Higgins
5 – McGee
6 – Calhoun
playoffs !!
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Pfffft.
Jacoby is better than your 3,4 and 5.
Best deep threat on the team – despite his diminutive size.
At least T.O. wasn’t on your list. That’s a start.
July 28th, 2012 at 6:44 pm
Higgs? what are you sipping, syrup???
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cold brewed tea, thecster
had some syrup with the waffles this mornin’ though
July 28th, 2012 at 6:46 pm
@RM99
Ford is the offense’s version of Mike Mitchell
July 28th, 2012 at 6:47 pm
cold brewed tea, thecster
had some syrup with the waffles this mornin’ though
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ROFLMAO…good one
July 28th, 2012 at 6:48 pm
Ford is the offense’s version of Mike Mitchell
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come on rock, you cannot be serious.
July 28th, 2012 at 6:49 pm
1 – Moore
2 – Ford
3 – DHB
4 – Streater
5 – McGee
6 – Calhoun
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dialed in correct
July 28th, 2012 at 6:50 pm
Run time…LTR NATION
July 28th, 2012 at 6:50 pm
he did have a tough year last year but the whole d did…with nmamdi he was def top 5. now with flowers and berry passing on the chefs will be tougher. Criner will have no effect on that game…dhb, ford and moore can do some damage though…
July 28th, 2012 at 6:51 pm
Hopefully, we’re all blowing smoke and Criner will show up tomorrow. If he’s not there or on his way by mid-morning, we’ll know something’s up.
July 28th, 2012 at 6:51 pm
hey guys,
I’ve given you plenty of in depth detail on JFORD, enough reason for me to question my liking for him
plays from the previous 2 years that spell it out plainly. dont ask me to regurgitate a 20th time plz
July 28th, 2012 at 6:53 pm
RR is high…trade ford cut romac…quit it
July 28th, 2012 at 6:53 pm
@Duck
if I show up to work on Tuesday morning and check this site after clocking in and dont see something about Criner being inked … he’s officially on my “knucklehead” list !!
July 28th, 2012 at 6:54 pm
what are the odds Juron Criner goes to Vegas tomorrow night after signing his contract and starts spraying everybody with dom perignon ???
July 28th, 2012 at 6:55 pm
JLH out of the NFL for a reason.
Not enough moxie.
Review his punt return vs. Ravens several years ago for evidence.
I knew JLH wasn’t going to ever amount to anything from the first pass attempt to him up the right sideline against the Rams in the pre-season of his rookie year.
This elephant doesn’t forget a thing.
On the whole JLH was a good punt returner. Good instincts and a great first step. Top end speed was always vastly overrated, although he wasn’t likely to be caught from behind.
JLH not hard nosed enough, though. Had enough ability to play in the NFL longer than he did. Not enough heart.
July 28th, 2012 at 6:57 pm
How long’s the buzz last?
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RaiderRockstar Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 6:44 pm
Higgs? what are you sipping, syrup???
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cold brewed tea, thecster
had some syrup with the waffles this mornin’ though
July 28th, 2012 at 7:00 pm
if you dont like Johnnie Lee, you’re a racist
period!
July 28th, 2012 at 7:01 pm
And that is certainly a very important intangible that can’t be measured….
How big are the dude’s balls when it really counts?
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RAIDERMAN99 Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 6:55 pm
JLH out of the NFL for a reason.
Not enough moxie.
Review his punt return vs. Ravens several years ago for evidence.
I knew JLH wasn’t going to ever amount to anything from the first pass attempt to him up the right sideline against the Rams in the pre-season of his rookie year.
This elephant doesn’t forget a thing.
On the whole JLH was a good punt returner. Good instincts and a great first step. Top end speed was always vastly overrated, although he wasn’t likely to be caught from behind.
JLH not hard nosed enough, though. Had enough ability to play in the NFL longer than he did. Not enough heart.
July 28th, 2012 at 7:01 pm
OK Kell….
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RaiderRockstar Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 7:00 pm
if you dont like Johnnie Lee, you’re a racist
period!
July 28th, 2012 at 7:02 pm
Now that every training camp in the NFL has begun (on some level), everybody be sure to ask Debo which camp JaMarcus is in. Bonus points if you can do it without collapsing in hysterics.
July 28th, 2012 at 7:03 pm
Dre Muhammad says: “This is a job and the playbook is bigger than the dictionary.” Al Saunders still bringing it! And that might be after Knapp whittled it down.
July 28th, 2012 at 7:03 pm
@Duck
word out on the street is, JaMarcus Russell & Terrell Owens are both heading to Cleveland
July 28th, 2012 at 7:07 pm
Now that every training camp in the NFL has begun (on some level), everybody be sure to ask Debo which camp JaMarcus is in. Bonus points if you can do it without collapsing in hysterics.
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It’s a conspiracy !
The Raids ruined him forever.
Poor JaMoron.
July 28th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 7:03 pm
@Duck
word out on the street is, JaMarcus Russell & Terrell Owens are both heading to Cleveland
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LOL. Can I assume Boller will be joining them?
July 28th, 2012 at 7:09 pm
Alvis Whitted (12 years younger) = Jacoby Ford
July 28th, 2012 at 7:09 pm
Nobody doesn’t like Sarah Lee.
Johnnie Lee is another story.
July 28th, 2012 at 7:10 pm
Can I assume Boller will be joining them?
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@Duck
no, but Donovan McNabb & Plaxico Burress will be
July 28th, 2012 at 7:10 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 7:10 pm
Can I assume Boller will be joining them?
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@Duck
no, but Donovan McNabb & Plaxico Burress will be
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And Albert Haynesworth?
July 28th, 2012 at 7:12 pm
COMEDY CENTRAL CENTRAL IN HERE THIS EVENING..
July 28th, 2012 at 7:12 pm
@Duck
Albert Haynesworth is going to reunite with Jeff Fisher in St Louis
July 28th, 2012 at 7:12 pm
whats up Dirt Lot?
been a while. how was prison ??
July 28th, 2012 at 7:13 pm
speaking of prison …
3 hots and a cot = more than what Raider O would give Shane Lechler !!
July 28th, 2012 at 7:15 pm
Fat Albert is 31 years old.
think we can get more out of guys like Ivey & Bilukidi than him ??
July 28th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
Fat Albert has been with 3 teams in the last 13 months, lol
July 28th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
[...] Jones ready to bust out in second season Running back Taiwan Jones touched the ball 18 times in the 10 regular-season games he played in 2011. Now that backup back Michael Bush is gone and Jones is healthy, combined with a new offensive scheme, Jones said he expects to see quite a bit more … [...]
July 28th, 2012 at 7:20 pm
A’s win again .. J Criner get your ass in camp , you don’t want to get in Allen’s dog house
July 28th, 2012 at 7:21 pm
J Criner get your ass in camp , you don’t want to get in Allen’s dog house
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Streater is ahead of him on the depth chart, if Criner isn’t signed Monday imo
July 28th, 2012 at 7:22 pm
Rich Gannon@RichGannon12
@mtlraider514 haven’t worked with Pryor and I would say he needs to have an exceptional camp to beat out Lineart
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July 28th, 2012 at 7:23 pm
Still say Criner is in for the first practice. Couldn’t possibly be that foolish.
Jerry McDonald (twitter)
July 28th, 2012 at 7:24 pm
GOOD EVENING ALL.ALL GOOD ROCKSTAR.STILL FIGHTING A FEW HEALTH ISSUES,BUT STILL GOOD.HOW R THINGS IN PODUNK WITH THE ROCKSTAR FAMILY?
July 28th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
LOL! Boller is still trending on twitter
July 28th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
Raiders LB Travis Goethel came prepared _ he lugged a toaster oven and a flat screen television into the hotel.
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McClain’s replacement = #50 ??
July 28th, 2012 at 7:26 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 7:23 pm
Still say Criner is in for the first practice. Couldn’t possibly be that foolish.
Jerry McDonald (twitter)
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I hope Jerry Mac is right, but one has to seriously wonder at this point.
July 28th, 2012 at 7:27 pm
get well soon, Dirt Lot
all is well in Podunk.
July 28th, 2012 at 7:28 pm
Faux John Madden@FauxJohnMadden
BREAKING – QB Kyle Boller has retired. Here is his career highlight reel. http://bit.ly/MUiT28
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LMFAO!
July 28th, 2012 at 7:29 pm
Kyle Boller: Because not everyone’s bad enough to get yanked for two guys who have been on the active roster a combined 12 days…
July 28th, 2012 at 7:29 pm
@ Tru
I was hoping Pryor would get the chance to work with Gannon, but it doesn’t sound like they could make it work
scheduling conflict, perhaps.
not a big deal, if Pryor is getting work done anyways instead of playing Madden and hangin with old thug buddies
July 28th, 2012 at 7:30 pm
nite gents!
July 28th, 2012 at 7:31 pm
I sure hope Criner signs tomorrow
July 28th, 2012 at 7:35 pm
RR
Yeah, not sure why they didn’t get together. He isn’t giving Pryor much of a chance to beat out ML, but not sure when was the last time he has seen Pryor throw.
July 28th, 2012 at 7:37 pm
this is how Kyle Boller will be remembered by Raider fans:
http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2011102308/2011/REG7/chiefs@raiders#menu=highlights&tab=recap
July 28th, 2012 at 8:48 pm
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82ae2cd7/article/terrell-owens-as-your-rec-league-softball-teammate
July 28th, 2012 at 8:50 pm
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82ae3738/article/kyle-boller-abruptly-retires-from-san-diego-chargers?module=HP11_headline_stack
July 28th, 2012 at 8:53 pm
http://blog.sfgate.com/raiders/2012/07/27/signing-bergstrom-and-criner-comes-down-to-the-wire/
Criner to sign! Criner to sign! Criner to sign!
July 28th, 2012 at 8:58 pm
If Criner comes in, it means that his agent was being aggressive, BUT Criner told him to not push it too far.
July 28th, 2012 at 8:59 pm
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1261925-oakland-raiders-5-reasons-the-raiders-could-overtake-the-afc-west
July 28th, 2012 at 9:05 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 6:34 pm
morilla routt was arguably the top 5 cb in the league…burning routt is harder than most of these knuckeheads think…
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It’ll be fun watching Moore burn some toast. Heck even DHB might get in on the fun
July 28th, 2012 at 9:05 pm
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July 28th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
Friday morning, Criner’s agent, Peter Schaffer, had said he couldn’t say for sure that Criner would report by Monday. But agents posture. And now Criner will be in by Sunday.
July 28th, 2012 at 9:11 pm
THX post 120…
July 28th, 2012 at 9:11 pm
post 102
July 28th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
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July 28th, 2012 at 9:13 pm
Raiders third-round pick Tony Bergstrom agreed to terms Friday and fifth-round pick Juron Criner will soon, and “will definitely be in by Sunday,” according to a person in the know.
July 28th, 2012 at 9:14 pm
Thec, I’ll let the cat out of the bag. Go to this site:
http://fsymbols.com/generators/aboqe-flip/
Have fun with it.
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July 28th, 2012 at 9:15 pm
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July 28th, 2012 at 9:15 pm
Mr Green Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 9:14 pm
Thec, I’ll let the cat out of the bag. Go to this site:
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ROFLMAO…You felt my pain…lol
July 28th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
another score for mr green
July 28th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
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July 28th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
Thx Mr. Green, You ever go to a game, will buy you a brew.
July 28th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
Still workin on gettin that Raider logo into the comment box. It will happen.
It will happen before I head to Nawleens and The Big Easy in January.
July 28th, 2012 at 9:20 pm
Good news is Criner will be in camp tommorrow…
1 NATION
July 28th, 2012 at 9:23 pm
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July 28th, 2012 at 9:32 pm
If you haven’t seen it yet http://www.bonanza.com/listings/Oakland-Raiders-Skull-Buckle-Bottle-Opener-and-Web-Belt-PICK-A-BELT-COLOR-/75352021
July 28th, 2012 at 9:32 pm
got to feed my family! word
July 28th, 2012 at 9:36 pm
July 28th, 2012 at 9:36 pm
@JacobyFord12: Report to camp day!!!! #RAIDERNATION
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Kinda like Christmas eve
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July 28th, 2012 at 9:43 pm
Wonder if Reggie will allow any cam feed to fans that can’t make Monday’s practice. What a great idea. Maybe Cork and Jer can talk Reggie into lettin them cam feed it to us.
July 28th, 2012 at 9:45 pm
SR havin fun.
July 28th, 2012 at 9:59 pm
He ain’t the ‘waterboy’ he’s the Puple Drank boy!
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RaiderDuck Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 7:02 pm
Now that every training camp in the NFL has begun (on some level), everybody be sure to ask Debo which camp JaMarcus is in. Bonus points if you can do it without collapsing in hysterics.
July 28th, 2012 at 10:23 pm
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July 28th, 2012 at 10:28 pm
111.Thec Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 9:13 pm
Raiders third-round pick Tony Bergstrom agreed to terms Friday and fifth-round pick Juron Criner will soon, and “will definitely be in by Sunday,” according to a person in the know.
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Link?
July 28th, 2012 at 10:35 pm
Reggie has to be careful in the way he plays this stuff.
If this Peter Schaffer guy turns out to represent certain free agents that Reggie wants to “recruit” then you don’t want Shaffer to perceive Reggie as a guy he can’t work with…and Schaffer steer guys away from Oakland.
Gotta play the game a bit and be careful not to get too hardcore in your stance.
July 28th, 2012 at 10:40 pm
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July 28th, 2012 at 10:41 pm
July 28th, 2012 at 10:45 pm
I have no credentials and I have no idea about anything in regard to football but I can tell you with confidence that Juron Criner will be in camp Sunday.
July 28th, 2012 at 10:45 pm
DJ. Go to the SF Gate website, Raiders, and look for the story link. It’s there but cumbersome for me to go there and get it from my phone. But Criner is on the way according to my resources.
July 28th, 2012 at 10:45 pm
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July 28th, 2012 at 10:48 pm
#134 agreed. Several sources have let me know he will be there while earlier today some sources were not sure. But the hay is in the barn now and it is show time.
July 28th, 2012 at 10:54 pm
135.Mr Green Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 10:45 pm
DJ. Go to the SF Gate website, Raiders, and look for the story link. It’s there but cumbersome for me to go there and get it from my phone. But Criner is on the way according to my resources.
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Thanks. I did find the story on it. Hope it’s true.
July 28th, 2012 at 10:56 pm
Oh it’s a good story. Criner will be there.
July 28th, 2012 at 10:59 pm
Thec Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 5:56 pm
Stanford Routt@SRoutt26
Red and Yellow!! #ChiefsNation
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route is on drugs these days? wtf is a “chefsnation”???
chefnation = easter bunny… sht does not exist.
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LOL!
Routt = certified schmuck
July 28th, 2012 at 11:02 pm
Got a hot tip Cork is working on confirmation of Criner anticipated signing and will post a new post very soon. Get ready to read all about it.
July 28th, 2012 at 11:07 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 10:28 pm
111.Thec Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 9:13 pm
Raiders third-round pick Tony Bergstrom agreed to terms Friday and fifth-round pick Juron Criner will soon, and “will definitely be in by Sunday,” according to a person in the know.
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http://blog.sfgate.com/raiders/2012/07/27/signing-bergstrom-and-criner-comes-down-to-the-wire/
July 28th, 2012 at 11:29 pm
Thanks Thec. I did find it. The “source” sounds iffy but SF Gate is legit so I doubt they’re making it up.
July 28th, 2012 at 11:45 pm
July 28th, 2012 at 11:46 pm
July 28th, 2012 at 11:48 pm
What kind of dumb f agent has his fifth round client sit out for 14K???
July 28th, 2012 at 11:50 pm
With the new CBA rules on limiting practices, it’s nice to have a general running things.
July 28th, 2012 at 11:51 pm
Kirk Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 11:48 pm
What kind of dumb f agent has his fifth round client sit out for 14K???
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Joke of the NFL right now. See Bergstrom’s quote that he wasn’t about to hold out as a 3rd round pick? I guess Criner has less between the ears than Bergstrom.
July 28th, 2012 at 11:54 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 10:35 pm
Reggie has to be careful in the way he plays this stuff.
If this Peter Schaffer guy turns out to represent certain free agents that Reggie wants to “recruit” then you don’t want Shaffer to perceive Reggie as a guy he can’t work with…and Schaffer steer guys away from Oakland.
Gotta play the game a bit and be careful not to get too hardcore in your stance.
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Understand what you’re saying, DJ, but disagree a little. I think this agent will look like an absolute boob to the rest of the league if his 5th round pick holds out.
July 29th, 2012 at 12:01 am
I don’t blame Reggie for low balling this kid Criner. If Criner won’t give in here he is only committing professional suicide. If I was a GM and was witnessing what was going on here I wouldn’t touch Criner with a ten foot pole. He’s acting like Randy Moss and TO combined. Such behavior bodes badly; what will Criner be like once he has some success?
Reggie is a cheap ass and good enought for him. Gone are the days when idiot AD will offer a water boy a million buck to fetch for the season.
If I were Reggie, if Criner didn’t show up in camp, I would kick him to the curb. My next target would be the big, lousy chlub, Seymour.
July 29th, 2012 at 12:09 am
Also, I took the CA Bar Exam on Tues, Wed, and Thursday of this week. I graduated from an excellent law school, and if anything was over prepared for the exam.
In the morning session on day one I didn’t do well because I was a overconfident.
Now Criner had a little success in a pre-preseason workout that didn’t include contact, and he and his agent now think that he is king of the WR’s.
Trust me, he aint squat. I now can’t wait to see him catch one over the middle, get his head taken off from and above and his knees taken out from below, simultaneously, so that he sees stars and is hearing things for a week or two.
Then Reggie can say, “look at you now….”
July 29th, 2012 at 1:56 am
really? so none of you would fight for $14k, especially when precedents have already been set by other teams?
sure he will get paid huge bucks to play a game; of course that is ridiculous, but dont pretend that $14k is pocket change and that in the same situation you would sign on the dotted line in its absence as though you were capitulating for a $4 phantom drink at the bar.
July 29th, 2012 at 2:07 am
Training camp hasn’t started yet, so (technically) the Criner “holdout” is not really an issue – yet. Now, once camp rolls around, if Criner continues to remain unsigned, then he’s banking on what the team saw in him during OTA’s (in my book, the equivalent to what everyone saw of Bruce Campbell during the combines a couple of years ago). If the Raiders had to pin their hopes for the season on an unproven 5th Round pick who is squabbling over a mere $14,000 instead of paying his dues and earning a spot on the squad, then – well, ’nuff said!
July 29th, 2012 at 2:15 am
I will also say that Criner has now created a real pressure-cooker of a situation for himself. Just by coming into camp, he becomes the “holdout kid”, if for nothing more than a simple hazing joke; but not really, because then he would have to actually make the team – quite a few third and fourth round receivers out there who will be available, come cuts. And if he doesn’t sign – well, then he just becomes the laughingstock of the NFL — that’s a lot of unnecessary pressure you throw upon yourself, if you ask me. This is what happens when your agent gets his law degree out of a cereal box!
July 29th, 2012 at 2:30 am
I agree with Raider O. Pay Criner. It’sjust 14k. And lets not act like he hasnt played a down. He put in his years at college making millions for other people. He has every right to want to make as much as he can now.
But it does scream of diva and possible future issues. He better realize that we could easily bring in another diva that we know will produce (TO) if he decides to hold out.
Either way, this guy will be a problem down the road. Future trade bait if you ask me.
Oh, and BTW, adding color to the media guide and removing the catch-phrases is lame IMO. Im not digging this “new era” crap at all. I preferred it when we treated the media like crap.
July 29th, 2012 at 2:41 am
Let’s just sit back and see what Criner does today … we’ll either be smiling that all our players are signed, or ROFLMAO!!!
July 29th, 2012 at 3:17 am
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July 29th, 2012 at 5:40 am
Hey Nation………..it’s time.
my 2 cents worth on Mr Criner ………….we have a hell of a lot of receivers and OTA’s are not in pads.
GM is sending the GB (small market team with not a lot of money) message to a low round draft pick.This guy would have to be better than our fullback to even get a look.Can’t blame Kelly for not wanting to play NT….he simply isn’t one…..dude is a damn good DT even if he is overpaid.That’s not his fault but a rookie NG in a 3-4?…..with a shortage of proven LB’s?….Who’s smoking what?
July 29th, 2012 at 5:55 am
$14,000? Are you f’in kidding me? Don’t tell me this kid is one of those prima donna receivers – a 5th round Crabtree.
July 29th, 2012 at 5:58 am
holla dudes
July 29th, 2012 at 5:59 am
Raider Riff Says:
I agree with Raider O. Pay Criner.
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That sets a bad precedent – for the Raiders and other teams. The guidelines are clear. He gets a $144,000 bonus. Nobody else seemed to want him before that 33rd pick in the 5th round, so he doesn’t exactly have any leverage.
I’m guessing he doesn’t already have a lot of money on hand, so he’ll cave in. He doesn’t want to go a whole year without even base salary.
July 29th, 2012 at 6:01 am
#159
simply sorting out the hay from the straw.I never want to see another R.Moss ever!!!but I guess it gives us something to talk about.
July 29th, 2012 at 6:02 am
holla..
July 29th, 2012 at 7:09 am
I get the feeling The Reggie isn’t one for a whole lot of negotiating.
The first offer, is also the final offer.
July 29th, 2012 at 7:14 am
So many experts on the Criner situation and yet he hasn’t played a single down for the Oakland Raiders.
Love this blog!
July 29th, 2012 at 7:16 am
What we should be focused on is Billy Beane dismantling the A’s or its infield until Halloween in Oaktown!
C’mon Beane start your “rebuild”
July 29th, 2012 at 7:19 am
Obviously another one of Seymour Bush’s alias’s. You finally hit the nail on the head OakGlenn!
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A Person In The Know Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 10:45 pm
I have no credentials and I have no idea about anything in regard to footbal
July 29th, 2012 at 7:43 am
DMAC in a boot yet?
July 29th, 2012 at 7:52 am
Another aspect of this I see is an agent that might be trying to make a bigger name for himself. He IS getting some press…and they say ANY press is good press. I never heard of Peter Schaffer until this.
Maybe the guy is trying to show other players “Hey. I’ll fight for every single penny for you. 14k is still 14k and you guys deserve EVERY bit you can get”.
Like Try Some Reality said, this may come back to bite this agent in the buttocks, but it may be Schaffer is just trying to make a name for himself.
July 29th, 2012 at 7:53 am
168.Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
July 29th, 2012 at 7:43 am
DMAC in a boot yet?
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Fair question.
July 29th, 2012 at 7:55 am
If that’s what Schaffer is doing, it’s a dangerous game. Wait until he has a client drop in the first round because of “signability concerns.”
July 29th, 2012 at 8:04 am
168.Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
July 29th, 2012 at 7:43 am
DMAC in a boot yet?
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He will be ready Wednesday if there is a game Sunday.
July 29th, 2012 at 8:05 am
I love the vague reference to “a person in the know” saying he’s gonna sign and be there today.
I don’t like that a 5th round draft pick wanting more money than what the CBA calls for is becoming the the Raiders’ 1st “distraction” of the season.
On one hand I think “Geez Reggie; just give him the 14k and move on” but on the other hand why acquiesce to some punk azz 5th round wanna be diva who thinks cuz he made a few nice catches in a non padded practice he deserves to hold the Raiders hostage.
I personally think he’s gonna be a stud though so at the end of the day…just get it done.
July 29th, 2012 at 8:06 am
Little Ding- out 6-8 weeks minimum
Big Ding-Live threatening ie. Al Davis
July 29th, 2012 at 8:07 am
Correction:
174.exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
July 29th, 2012 at 8:06 am
Little Ding- out 6-8 weeks minimum
Big Ding-Life threatening ie. Al Davis
July 29th, 2012 at 8:15 am
Criner pulled his head out of his agent’s azz yet?lol
July 29th, 2012 at 8:15 am
Well, camp starts today with meetings etc. so the long wait is finally over.
The only “drama” being this Criner issue to spoil the vibe a bit.
If Criner signs and shows up in a limo with a white fur coat on…well at least it means he signed.
July 29th, 2012 at 8:17 am
176.TxRaider210 Says:
July 29th, 2012 at 8:15 am
Criner pulled his head out of his agent’s azz yet?lol
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Not yet…but a “person in the know” says he’s fixin’ to sign and be there today.
July 29th, 2012 at 8:20 am
DJ Johnny Says:
July 29th, 2012 at 8:17 am
176.TxRaider210 Says:
July 29th, 2012 at 8:15 am
Criner pulled his head out of his agent’s azz yet?lol
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Not yet…but a “person in the know” says he’s fixin’ to sign and be there today.
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Sweet, thanks for the update man. Still Reggie needs to make him do 200 extra push-ups for being a weiner.
July 29th, 2012 at 8:22 am
171.RaiderDuck Says:
July 29th, 2012 at 7:55 am
If that’s what Schaffer is doing, it’s a dangerous game. Wait until he has a client drop in the first round because of “signability concerns.”
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Yeah. I think in the court of public opinion so far it’s he and Criner who look like the idiots.
July 29th, 2012 at 8:25 am
When Criner shows up with his agent, Reg is going to show them the empty hour-glass on his desk and make the agent shine his shoes.
July 29th, 2012 at 8:28 am
That’s what I find odd about this. He’s not a newbie. Peter Schaffer 1997
Made Barry Sanders highest paid player in NFL history.[3] Made Chad Brown the highest paid linebacker in NFL history.[4]
2001
Made Trevor Pryce the highest paid defensive player in NFL history.[5]
2011
Made Joe Thomas the highest paid offensive lineman in NFL history.[6]
July 29th, 2012 at 8:29 am
Dang sounds like Schaffer has a good track record, maybe he’s having a mid-life crisis or just losing his marbles..
July 29th, 2012 at 8:31 am
But you’ve gotta love this from his agencys’ website, Authentic Athletix. “Record-setting, carefully negotiated contracts, individualized service, unparalleled connections, and the highest level of integrity.”
July 29th, 2012 at 8:34 am
Hilarious!! Integrity is holding out over a rookie’s 14k, and a 6th rounder at that. lol
July 29th, 2012 at 8:34 am
What it do Nation?
Heres the RNS Jones piece from 10 days ago…
Niiiize!
Love this kid
http://www.raidernationstation.com/raider_huddle
July 29th, 2012 at 8:35 am
All I need to know is that Schaffer is a lawyer from Brooklyn Law School.lol
July 29th, 2012 at 8:38 am
Thanks Nnamdi
Good read, other than his laundry list of injuries.lol
July 29th, 2012 at 8:40 am
I read that camp officially starts at breakfast this morning, but couldn’t find out what time that is. Wonder if Criner can be considered late for camp and fined under new CBA, if he’s not signed.
July 29th, 2012 at 8:43 am
I hope Criner gets fined 14k if he doesn’t show.
July 29th, 2012 at 8:47 am
165 49ers Darius Fleming LB $164,800
166 Bengals Marvin Jones WR $162,800
167 Bengals George Iloka S $160,300
169 Ravens Asa Jackson CB $144,560
170 Colts Vick Ballard RB $144,560
171 Rams Greg Zuerlein K $128,820
July 29th, 2012 at 8:48 am
188. Have a good morning Tx!
189. RNS says they are lining up to weigh n right now…that means breakfast afterward so probably less than a few hours tops.
July 29th, 2012 at 8:48 am
190. Exactly! Fire your agent Juron!
July 29th, 2012 at 8:50 am
191. Nice…Criner is no doubt a great prospect but not terribly bright it seems. Do the deal, add in a few more escalators and performance based escalators and lets GO!
July 29th, 2012 at 8:53 am
Criner is only making LB’s and DB’s want to hit him harder, at this point.lol
July 29th, 2012 at 8:53 am
169 Ravens Asa Jackson CB $144,560
170 Colts Vick Ballard RB $144,560
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Both taken after Criner as sup picks, both signed that deal with no issues, almost 2 months ago.
I can see Criner’s “point” more, if these two didn’t sign yet either, but he is the only one of the 33 sup picks taken this year, unsigned and pulling this charade.
July 29th, 2012 at 8:55 am
Well JFB, finally case closed on this issue, Reg is right and Juron is Wrong!lol
July 29th, 2012 at 8:58 am
Well JFB, finally case closed on this issue, Reg is right and Juron is Wrong!lol
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I think Criner will sign tomorrow morning, and miss one day of practice.
Won’t be an issue come mid-season whatsoever, but WTF else are we going to talk about?
Taiwan? The new media guide?
Meh
July 29th, 2012 at 9:00 am
I can see Criner’s “point” more, if these two didn’t sign yet either, but he is the only one of the 33 sup picks taken this year, unsigned and pulling this charade.
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i wouldnt sweat it…..he’ll be signed
July 29th, 2012 at 9:01 am
Regneeded this and he can’t back down. This is when he defines his method. The days of players dictating what’s up are over. More EVERY free agent that came in, except for benson, was signed. Reggie knows what he’s doing. Criner and his agent do not. If he is there at breakfast or not, he has already made a mistake.
July 29th, 2012 at 9:01 am
What I see is a veteran Agent trying to work his way around the new CBA agreement, see how far he can take this issue not only for Criner but for future clients, he’s dealing with a rookie GM and probably testing Reggie’s negotiating skills as well.
Juron Criner is caught in the middle and is probably enticed to get a few more bucks his way too, but he should give his Agent today to work it out or report on his own tomorrow, maybe not even dress for practice, just show up and prove he’s no head-case and get a new Agent and sign the contract so he’s ready to go on tuesday.
July 29th, 2012 at 9:05 am
Note to Criner,
Hey Juron, before this minor fiasco, I was highly considering purchasing your jersey this season. However, you’ve raised the bar on yourself, so I expect 800 yards and 8 TD’s this year, and maybe I’ll pick up the jersey next season.lol
July 29th, 2012 at 9:06 am
Yeah, Marley, I was thinking that also. Possibly even an orchestrated test case. But why did they have to pick on the Raiders?
July 29th, 2012 at 9:06 am
That’s if Criner and his advisors (I’m sure his Agent is not the only one who talks to him) are smart, that way he can still miss a day or two and blame it on Schaffer for bad advice so he won’t get the whole organization angry at him.
July 29th, 2012 at 9:10 am
Intrepid Says:
Yeah, Marley, I was thinking that also. Possibly even an orchestrated test case. But why did they have to pick on the Raiders?.
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I don’t think Schaffer is picking on the Raiders, it just happens that Criner is his player and was picked by us, the other supplemental picks are not with him (I guess) and his Agents didn’t want any trouble or lacked the rep and guts to try to pull this move.
July 29th, 2012 at 9:21 am
Not a lot between the ears of this Criner kid. Letting his agent make a spectacle of him to set a new precedent.
July 29th, 2012 at 9:25 am
Great read Steve, keep em’ coming!
This whole Criner situation is a lil overblown. I’m sure Criner will be in camp by Monday. His agent may have wanted to test Regg after dealing Murph and thinking we’re in need of WR’s. Technically we do need him. But if he’s not signed by the beginning of the week, Regg should bring in some FA Wr’s, Plax (if still available) or whoever for a work out and let Criners agent sweat it out over a few bucks.
Sign the damn contract and get to work.
July 29th, 2012 at 9:26 am
Criner getting used like a puppet. What a clown.
July 29th, 2012 at 9:27 am
HOLLA
hope i aint to sick to make the practice tomorrow and see all the dudes. very sick today. too much party with my girlfreind. too much alchohol and sin.
July 29th, 2012 at 9:37 am
From Twitter:
Juron Criner
Quick to judge but never went to #LawSkool smh
less than 1 minute ago from Echofon
July 29th, 2012 at 9:39 am
Side note to Criner before I head out for lunch
Juron if the Nation gets wind that you wanted the 14k for any of the following:
1) Multi-colored fur coat
2) Lime green Gator boots
3) Tag Heuer custom watch
4) Custom grill from Paul Wall
5) Season tix to board Beeecher’s Party Dude 8000
….we won’t be happy campers.lol
July 29th, 2012 at 9:41 am
RaiderDuck Says:
July 29th, 2012 at 9:37 am
From Twitter:
Juron Criner
Quick to judge but never went to #LawSkool smh
less than 1 minute ago from Echofon
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Wow. He really isn’t doing himself any favors.
July 29th, 2012 at 9:41 am
Go Raiders! GO A’s! only an hour away from completing 3 game sweep .. Yah baby.. and Juron Criner get your ass in camp already .. you will get enough chances to make money when your contract is over
July 29th, 2012 at 9:42 am
RaiderDuck Says:
July 29th, 2012 at 9:37 am
From Twitter:
Juron Criner
Quick to judge but never went to #LawSkool smh
less than 1 minute ago from Echofon
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Hey Criner, you didn’t even need a lawyer to work out that Rookie bonus mayne!!lmao
July 29th, 2012 at 9:43 am
Get a new agent Juron…Not a good way to start your pro career.
July 29th, 2012 at 9:45 am
Guys calm down , 12k isn’t that much they will work something out , and he will be in camp ready to explode on the scene
July 29th, 2012 at 9:45 am
Brooklyn Law School told me all I needed to know about Schaffer…out to lunch gents will return later.
July 29th, 2012 at 9:46 am
Reggie ain’t gonna pay Criner, so only thing to work out are his ego problems.imo
July 29th, 2012 at 9:55 am
210.RaiderDuck Says:
July 29th, 2012 at 9:37 am
From Twitter:
Juron Criner
Quick to judge but never went to #LawSkool smh
less than 1 minute ago from Echofon
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What does this mean?
July 29th, 2012 at 9:57 am
TxRaider210 Says:
July 29th, 2012 at 9:46 am
Reggie ain’t gonna pay Criner, so only thing to work out are his ego problems.imo
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Oh he will trust me , Reggie doesn’t want to be labeled as dysfunctional like the last guy that was in charge here (RIP) and 12 k is not much when you know what kinda player you’re getting .. He’s easily going to be one of the best rookie in this league when its all said and done
July 29th, 2012 at 9:57 am
LOL at #LawSkool
SMH at you Criner!!!!!
July 29th, 2012 at 10:00 am
Mcfadden20. Says:
July 29th, 2012 at 9:57 am
TxRaider210 Says:
July 29th, 2012 at 9:46 am
Reggie ain’t gonna pay Criner, so only thing to work out are his ego problems.imo
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Oh he will trust me , Reggie doesn’t want to be labeled as dysfunctional like the last guy that was in charge here (RIP) and 12 k is not much when you know what kinda player you’re getting .. He’s easily going to be one of the best rookie in this league when its all said and done
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No, he won’t pay him. Criner has two options:
1) Show up and sign the Raiders’ reasonable offer, or
2) Sit out the season.
That’s it.
July 29th, 2012 at 10:01 am
How can The Reggie play hard ball with guys like Bush, Branch, Wimbley and Routt, restructure Palmer and Carlisle, and then just fold to a 5th round sup pick, who is asking for more than the other 5th round sup picks?
He HAS TO stand firm on this, and he will.
The 14K has nothing to do with it. It don’t matter if it is 4K, 14K or 44K.
It is the principle and integrity of the draft slotting system.
July 29th, 2012 at 10:01 am
Regarding the article , yes I believe Jones would be pretty good in this ZB Scheme, dude could cut and go the other way with the best of them
July 29th, 2012 at 10:02 am
I’d never heard of this Schaffer guy before. Guess he’s been around awhile and done some things.
I’m sure he’s telling Criner “don’t worry, i got this”.
July 29th, 2012 at 10:05 am
RaiderDuck Says:
July 29th, 2012 at 10:00 am
Mcfadden20. Says:
July 29th, 2012 at 9:57 am
TxRaider210 Says:
July 29th, 2012 at 9:46 am
Reggie ain’t gonna pay Criner, so only thing to work out are his ego problems.imo
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Oh he will trust me , Reggie doesn’t want to be labeled as dysfunctional like the last guy that was in charge here (RIP) and 12 k is not much when you know what kinda player you’re getting .. He’s easily going to be one of the best rookie in this league when its all said and done
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No, he won’t pay him. Criner has two options:
1) Show up and sign the Raiders’ reasonable offer, or
2) Sit out the season.
That’s it.
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Yes i hope Raiders don’t give in , it just sets a bad example , whats going to happen next all the guys would just hold out for more money, but on the other hand i don’t want to see JC take this like an insult to the face and start acting like a child , so that’s why i don’t know .. lets see how this situation is played
July 29th, 2012 at 10:07 am
DJ Johnny Says:
July 29th, 2012 at 9:55 am
210.RaiderDuck Says:
July 29th, 2012 at 9:37 am
From Twitter:
Juron Criner
Quick to judge but never went to #LawSkool smh
less than 1 minute ago from Echofon
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What does this mean?
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It means Criner is shooting his mouth of in a condescending manner. SMH stands for ” shake my head”.
He’s basically calling out critics, media and fans and thinking they are idiots. I could understand this coming from Wallace or Moss. But not a 5th rounder. A very brash way of going about things.
July 29th, 2012 at 10:08 am
but on the other hand i don’t want to see JC take this like an insult to the face and start acting like a child
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How is that our fault?
If he takes one of the greatest moments and accomplishments of his life (getting drafted) and parlays that into some scenario where he feels insulted and acts like a child, that’s on him.
July 29th, 2012 at 10:09 am
Vegas, how about them Dodgers?
July 29th, 2012 at 10:10 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 29th, 2012 at 10:08 am
but on the other hand i don’t want to see JC take this like an insult to the face and start acting like a child
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How is that our fault?
If he takes one of the greatest moments and accomplishments of his life (getting drafted) and parlays that into some scenario where he feels insulted and acts like a child, that’s on him.
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Yes, you’re right sometimes we just want the management to give in based on a guy’s potential but it is always team sport, and New England is a pretty good example of this
July 29th, 2012 at 10:14 am
Zito looked great yesterday didn’t he,lol??
I am hoping Voggy puts one in the ribcage for ‘ol HanRam today.
July 29th, 2012 at 10:17 am
Reg should bring in a few undrafted FA Wr’s today.
July 29th, 2012 at 10:17 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 29th, 2012 at 10:14 am
Zito looked great yesterday didn’t he,lol??
I am hoping Voggy puts one in the ribcage for ‘ol HanRam today.
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You guys are still paying him like 20M a year? how many more years does he have left on his contract?
July 29th, 2012 at 10:20 am
This is his last year I believe.
Hey, at least he never missed a start, lol.
July 29th, 2012 at 10:30 am
OAKLAND RAIDERS @RAIDERS
The Raiders have signed WR Juron Criner.
July 29th, 2012 at 10:31 am
DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
July 29th, 2012 at 10:17 am
Reg should bring in a few undrafted FA Wr’s today.
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Reg did bring in undrafted FA Muhammed yesterday, right in the midst of Cryner’s hold out report.lol
July 29th, 2012 at 10:31 am
DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
July 29th, 2012 at 10:17 am
Reg should bring in a few undrafted FA Wr’s today.
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Yes, a 5th rd pick holding out for more money is unheard of , lets bring in some more WR and let him hold out for the year
July 29th, 2012 at 10:31 am
Riff,
I liked how Al treated those roaches aka media. It’s not good business, but it was fun.
I dont agree about Criner being a Diva, the system is not fair IMO, and he/ his agent are trying to get what they think is fair value. There is nothing wrong with that IMO. If he doesn’t show up soon, he is a diva, which seems to be the norm for NFL WRs. lol
July 29th, 2012 at 10:31 am
Reg, you better not have paid this punk the 14k!!
July 29th, 2012 at 10:32 am
O
Criner’s already taking shots at the fans for not being lawyers, via twitter.
July 29th, 2012 at 10:34 am
Vic Tafur@VicTafur
Criner here. Signed
July 29th, 2012 at 10:35 am
Juron Criner @JbamaCriner82
It just wouldn’t let me leave the store w/o it. Had to https://twitter.com/JbamaCriner82/status/228257586393280513
July 29th, 2012 at 10:35 am
Texan’s Andre Johnson already out with a groin injury.
July 29th, 2012 at 10:35 am
Criner in on time
July 29th, 2012 at 10:36 am
Reg should go drop 14k on a clown car and make JC drive it to and from the field everyday once he does show up.
July 29th, 2012 at 10:37 am
We need to know who gave in over the 14k..lol
July 29th, 2012 at 10:38 am
If I was in his shoes, I would do the same thing. I want my agent to do everything he can to get me more money. Don’t leave any money on the table. Just because other players in my position signed, it doesn’t mean I have to.
July 29th, 2012 at 10:39 am
TxRaider210 Says:
July 29th, 2012 at 10:32 am
O
Criner’s already taking shots at the fans for not being lawyers, via twitter.
$$$$$$$$$$$
Some of You People deserve it.
July 29th, 2012 at 10:40 am
Wrong, he was offered the right amount of money according to the new CBA, just simple greed.
July 29th, 2012 at 10:40 am
Raider O
I don’t think either side is wrong here. I understand why Reg would hold his ground. It affects more people then just JC if he caved.
July 29th, 2012 at 10:40 am
I don’t understand this guys. I dont care whether you are a first or seventh rounder. I know there is a big gap between what a first and seventh get, but putting that aside, if you really did this because playing pro football is a dream of yours, then you would be happy to be drafted and take whatever they give you.
I think this type of scenarios tell a lot about the type of player someone will be. One that is in it for the money, or one that is in it because he actually had a dream of playing in the pros and actually loves the sport. You can love both, but this tells you which one you love most.
Specially when you do it for 14K, after being drafted with a sup pick, in the 5th, and the team is offering what the book says. AND when you have not even played a down in an actual game.
Besides, this is just the signing bonus, not the actual full salary he is going to get.
SMH at you JC.
July 29th, 2012 at 10:41 am
TxRaider210 Says:
July 29th, 2012 at 10:37 am
We need to know who gave in over the 14k..lol
$$$$$$$$$$$$$
I agree. I think Criner and his agent did.
July 29th, 2012 at 10:42 am
Raider O Says:
July 29th, 2012 at 10:41 am
TxRaider210 Says:
July 29th, 2012 at 10:37 am
We need to know who gave in over the 14k..lol
$$$$$$$$$$$$$
I agree. I think Criner and his agent did.
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You may end up wrong bro, Reg made him a fair offer that others, drafted after Criner, took.
July 29th, 2012 at 10:43 am
Reg should have just looked him in t he eye and said “earn it!” and I’ll pay you out of my pocket.
July 29th, 2012 at 10:43 am
TxRaider210 Says:
July 29th, 2012 at 10:40 am
Wrong, he was offered the right amount of money according to the new CBA, just simple greed.
$$$$$$$$$$$$
Nothing wrong with being a little greedy. lol
July 29th, 2012 at 10:45 am
O
I still think Reg should have put the 14k on the table for Criner and Streater to compete for.lol
July 29th, 2012 at 10:46 am
Maybe the 10% the 14K is, is what the agent gets…?
July 29th, 2012 at 10:46 am
DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
July 29th, 2012 at 10:40 am
Raider O
I don’t think either side is wrong here. I understand why Reg would hold his ground. It affects more people then just JC if he caved.
$$$$$$
Don,
I agree. I just think avoiding distractions, and keeping a player with potential happy is worth 14k.
July 29th, 2012 at 10:46 am
Hah. Jerry McDonald @Jerrymcd
What a stunner . . . Raiders’ Criner signs
July 29th, 2012 at 10:47 am
Jerry, did he sign the initial offer sheet???lol
July 29th, 2012 at 10:47 am
That is one ugly hat!!!
The bill looks like those zubaz pants from the 80’s, lol.
July 29th, 2012 at 10:48 am
TxRaider210 Says:
July 29th, 2012 at 10:45 am
O
I still think Reg should have put the 14k on the table for Criner and Streater to compete for.lol
$$$$$$$$$$
I agree. Make the rookie WRs compete for it. You want the 14K, no problem, earn it in camp!
July 29th, 2012 at 10:49 am
I agree. I just think avoiding distractions, and keeping a player with potential happy is worth 14k.
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So you CLEARLY think Rockstart should get his promotion and added pay, even though he blogs all day, to avoid distractions?
July 29th, 2012 at 10:49 am
I agree. I think Criner and his agent did.//////////////////////////////////////////////////I wouldn’t be surprised if Reggie never even talked to them.
July 29th, 2012 at 10:50 am
O
I think it would just be the fall out Reg had to avoid. To many other players signed and then you single one guy out and pay him more just to make him happy. I don’t blame JC for asking for it. But at the end of the day the deal is done and the media as usual has made something out of nothing.
July 29th, 2012 at 10:50 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 29th, 2012 at 10:47 am
That is one ugly hat!!!
The bill looks like those zubaz pants from the 80’s, lol.
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Dude, I had some of those pants, don’t remind me.lmao Hammer-time!
July 29th, 2012 at 10:50 am
You want an extra 10% from me, I want an extra 10% from you, now get to work.
July 29th, 2012 at 10:51 am
I knew he’d sign eventually but this did not start out well.
Just cuz he signed i’m not ready to go out and buy a Juron Criner jersey.
I hope he does well for us.
July 29th, 2012 at 10:52 am
ROFLMAO Chico.
July 29th, 2012 at 10:53 am
Raider O Says:
July 29th, 2012 at 10:43 am. Nothing wrong with being a little greedy. lol./////////////////////////////////////////////////////Agree 100%,O. Stupid time and place to make a stand, imo.
July 29th, 2012 at 11:06 am
Lol… So many fools jocking criner last week.. A guy theyve never seen take an nfl snap.. I saw a few ppl say he is our best reciver. That he’ll be #1 on the depth chart and lead us in catches… I saw a couple ppl say he’s the next fitzgerald.. And after his agent askes for more money. A whole 14k, criner gets a tsunami of hate..lol…..he didnt even miss a practice…overreact much?lol
July 29th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
Thank God no more bogus “Commitment To Excellence” bulls*t and “Da Greatness Of Da Raiduhs Is In Its Future.” So outdated and so not the way it was under Al. Fresh blood and fresh ideas and accountability from forward thinking football people who aren’t paranoid conspiracy theorists. The future is NOW!