Raiders sign Bergstrom, set sights on Criner
By Steve Corkran
Saturday, July 28th, 2012 at 9:40 am in Oakland Raiders.
The Raiders signed third-round draft pick Tony Bergstrom on the eve of training camp, as expected. That leaves wide receiver Juron Criner as the only unsigned player on Oakland’s roster.
As was the case with Bergstrom, the Raiders aren’t expected to have any difficulty getting Criner under contract and on the field in Napa on time for camp.
Bergstrom is being looked at as a guard for now. He is capable of playing guard and tackle. He was Oakland’s top pick in this year’s NFL draft, with the final selection of the third round.
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July 28th, 2012 at 9:45 am
woooooo. What a game, behind all game, just to win in the end!
July 28th, 2012 at 9:46 am
CanuckRaider Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 9:39 am
#89: Yep…Remember how well trying to make Brayton and that other big guy outside linebackers worked?…LMAO.
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That was because Rob Ryan had Brayton and Irons (try to) play standard OLB, as opposed to Allen and Tarver who understand you can’t do that.
July 28th, 2012 at 9:54 am
Let’s get to camp.
July 28th, 2012 at 9:55 am
Our first real NFL coaching staff in ages will make a big difference.
July 28th, 2012 at 9:57 am
5?
July 28th, 2012 at 9:59 am
CanuckRaider Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 9:55 am
Our first real NFL coaching staff in ages will make a big difference.
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Agreed. The last real up-and-comer we hired as HC was Gruden, 14 years ago.
July 28th, 2012 at 10:00 am
You need 3-4 players to run a 3-4. DA is smart.. He’ll figure out real quick that kelly cant handle the nt spot.. Plus we dont really have the right lbs or the lb depth.. Snatsy is not an option as an olb in the 3-4..
July 28th, 2012 at 10:01 am
Marks Hair Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 9:55 am
You need the proper personel to run a 3-4 and da is gonna find out real quick that kelly cant handle the nt. Not to mention our lack of lbs..
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Methinks Kelly’s on the way out. DA couldn’t have been happy that he publicly talks up Kelly as NT, only to have Kelly just as publicly whine that he doesn’t want to play the position.
July 28th, 2012 at 10:03 am
Right.. So not alot of 3-4.
July 28th, 2012 at 10:06 am
I was saying kelly, dvd & a 1st rd pick for revis.. I guess its too far fetched..
July 28th, 2012 at 10:07 am
11th
July 28th, 2012 at 10:08 am
Marks Hair Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 10:03 am
Right.. So not alot of 3-4.
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We’ve still got Ivey, who apparently the coaches think highly of. Kelly (if he stays, which is not guaranteed) could split time with him at NT. I still say (and goodness knows I’ve been wrong before) that they wouldn’t have asked Seymour to shed pounds to play 3-4 DE unless they were serious about using it.
July 28th, 2012 at 10:08 am
Criner should be signed very soon, get it done Reg!
July 28th, 2012 at 10:11 am
In fact im starting a rumor. The raiders are offering kelly dvd & a 1st rd pick for revis.. Make a headline for once jerry. Ill be your “source”
July 28th, 2012 at 10:12 am
Marks Hair Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 10:11 am
In fact im starting a rumor. The raiders are offering kelly dvd & a 1st rd pick for revis.. Make a headline for once jerry. Ill be your “source”
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Not gonna happen. Reggie ain’t waiting around until Round 3 in two drafts straight.
July 28th, 2012 at 10:13 am
12 kelly cant play the nt. He knows this and came right out and said so.. as for ivey, the coaches have never seen him play or practice…
July 28th, 2012 at 10:13 am
It’s not just the NT problem, We don’t have the LBs for a 3-4, or a 4-3 for that matter. Cutting McLame would send the message and rid us of another loser.
July 28th, 2012 at 10:14 am
We need to change defensive coordinators more often than once every 50 years.
July 28th, 2012 at 10:16 am
He could trade the following drafts #1. But yeah I know.. He’s not too woried about making the playoffs this yr.. He’s all about picks.
July 28th, 2012 at 10:17 am
We do have the LBs for 3-4 (even assuming #77 stays on the line):
Wheeler, McClain, Curry, Burris as the starters.
Goethel and Stupar backing up the inside.
Curry can slide outside if needed, and be supplemented by Ihenacho, Kurn, Burnett, or some final-cut pickup.
Not perfect, but it’s good enough with a strong system.
July 28th, 2012 at 10:19 am
Playing a lot more zone defense should put a stop to those long runs we’ve been giving up for too many years. We had too many DBs running downfield with their backs turned, covering receivers, while running backs ran free after LBs whiffed. Those long runs kill us.
July 28th, 2012 at 10:21 am
17 preaching to the choir. We just dont have 3-4 personnel.. Id rather trade romac or wait till next yr to save the $ and see if he wakes up..
July 28th, 2012 at 10:23 am
Mark,
Shut down corners are overrated. You dont need shut down corners to win the SB…see Giants. You need a solid scheme and a tough front 7.
July 28th, 2012 at 10:23 am
67.Marks hair Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 8:57 am
Wow he took a 5-11 team all the way up to 8-8 in only 2 seasons!! Quick lets rehire the cable guy! What an amazing coach!
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I just said the guy was “decent”, not amazing. By “decent” i mean average and not horrible.
We can do better and i think we have…but we won’t know for sure until we see how it all goes down.
July 28th, 2012 at 10:24 am
20. Have you looked at that shltty list of lbs? I dont 4 of those losers plus kelly at the nt.. Ppl would average 8 yds a carry.
July 28th, 2012 at 10:25 am
RaiderDuck, You’re counting on a lot of guys that haven’t proven they can do all that……yet. I hope you’re right and I agree that there needs to be more than just a 4-3 vanilla D all the time, but you have to play to the strength of your personnel. I just don’t see it yet.
July 28th, 2012 at 10:26 am
21. Right..
July 28th, 2012 at 10:28 am
We will play more 4-2-5 & 3-3-5 nickel than we do 3-4.. Our lbs just dont need to be out there..not 4 of them.
July 28th, 2012 at 10:30 am
Marks Hair Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 10:28 am
We will play more 4-2-5 & 3-3-5 nickel than we do 3-4.. Our lbs just dont need to be out there..not 4 of them.
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Seymour, Ivey, Shaughnessy on the line.
Wheeler, McClain, Burris at LB.
Nickelback in.
That could work on some passing downs.
July 28th, 2012 at 10:33 am
4.CanuckRaider Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 9:55 am
Our first real NFL coaching staff in ages will make a big difference.
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I’m hoping so.
I’m looking more for “clutch” plays than offensive and defensive rankings cuz they don’t necessarily translate to wins.
San Diego is good example. 2 yrs. ago they were # 1 in defense and # 1 in offense. What did they finish? 9-7?
July 28th, 2012 at 10:35 am
RaiderDuck,
I see McCheese working the Drive Thru, asking, “Does ya’ll wanna Supersize that?” He does not belong on the field as a Raider until he grows up and becomes accountable for his actions. Come on man.
July 28th, 2012 at 10:35 am
24. I was responding to you and the guy that said cable would have made the playoffs last yr.. Bottom line. He was a loser. And im hoping we’re done with that. I want coaches who know what they’re fu¢king doing..
July 28th, 2012 at 10:38 am
ELWAYs TEETH Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 10:35 am
RaiderDuck,
I see McCheese working the Drive Thru, asking, “Does ya’ll wanna Supersize that?” He does not belong on the field as a Raider until he grows up and becomes accountable for his actions. Come on man.
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Okay, then put Curry, Goethel and/or Stupar in at MLB.
July 28th, 2012 at 10:38 am
23.aig-raiders Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 10:23 am
Mark,
Shut down corners are overrated. You dont need shut down corners to win the SB…see Giants. You need a solid scheme and a tough front 7.
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GB goes 15-1 with worst pass D IN HISTORY…New Eng. gets to SB with 30th ranked D? Giants WIN SB with 29th ranked pass D?
You don’t wanna promote being a bad pass defense as a game plan but it makes me wonder if Reggie hasn’t taken note of such stats and is lessening the importance of spending alot of $$$ or sense of urgency in that area thinking Bartell, Chekwa, and Spencer will be fine…?
July 28th, 2012 at 10:39 am
Time to mow the lawn.. & check on the christmas trees..
July 28th, 2012 at 10:41 am
Keep in mind that a lot of those numbers against GB and NE are not necessarily the result of a bad pass defense, but rather the result of offenses in two-minute mode racking up an easy touchdown against a defense playing Prevent. Doesn’t really matter if they still win the game by 14 instead of 21.
July 28th, 2012 at 10:41 am
34. Its not about shut down corners. Its about dbs that create takeaways..
July 28th, 2012 at 10:43 am
32.Marks hair Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 10:35 am
24. I was responding to you and the guy that said cable would have made the playoffs last yr.. Bottom line. He was a loser. And im hoping we’re done with that. I want coaches who know what they’re fu¢king doing..
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I got ya. We disagree on how awful the hapless Cableman was. He should not have been HC in the 1st place. I think he maximized the potential he had…which admittedly wasn’t a heck of a lot.
I dfeinitely want coaches who know what they’re doing. I THINK we have that now, but we haven’t seen ‘em in action yet so I have to reserve someof my optimism…
I like what i’m seeing so far.
July 28th, 2012 at 10:47 am
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/id/46099/bonus-dispute-root-of-criner-delay
By Bill Williamson | ESPN.com
What’s the difference between promising Oakland Raiders receiver Juron Criner being at training camp Monday morning when the team opens camp and him not being there?
Fourteen thousand dollars.
According to a source with knowledge of the situation, the fifth-round pick has yet to sign his rookie contract with the Raiders because the two sides are squaring off over his signing bonus. Criner wants $158,000 while the team is offering $144,000. The Arizona receiver — who was an OTA star for the Raiders — is the only non-first round pick who is unsigned.
According to the source, Criner’s request is based on what the players drafted directly ahead of him were paid in bonus money. The total difference between the bonus money from the No. 26-32 picks in the fifth round is $18,000-plus dollars. From picks No. 30-32 in the round; the difference between the bonus money was in the $2,000 range for each pick. The bonus money for the No. 32 pick in the fifth round (Cincinnati safety George Iloka) was $160,000-plus. Criner wants the $2,000 bonus decline to continue.
However, the issue is Criner was the No. 33 pick of the round as a supplemental pick. The NFL’s Management Council’s guidelines for bonus slotting takes a significant decline for supplemental picks. The guidelines for the No. 33 pick of the fifth round is the $144,000 the Raiders are offering.
The dispute is very simple. The player wants to stay in line with what the picks ahead of him received and the team wants to stick to the league’s protocol for the pick. According to the source, Criner likely will not sign until the issue is resolved.
July 28th, 2012 at 10:49 am
Give him his $14K and get him into camp.
July 28th, 2012 at 10:51 am
@DJ, Yup we agree on the corners stuff. The only reason why we cherished shut down corners was because of old Al.
@Mark, on Cable. He was the HC when we went from a league doormat to a respectable 8-8. Certainly better than the 3 prev guys before him.
July 28th, 2012 at 10:53 am
I got $20 on it..
July 28th, 2012 at 10:53 am
Criner is an idiot. $15k is nothing when compared to getting to camp and being on the right side with the Mgmt team. His agent should be FIRED. If he has a year similar to Dmoore, he’ll make a whole lot more than that $15k in a few years.
July 28th, 2012 at 10:53 am
Thx Duck.
I knew it was a contract dispute.
July 28th, 2012 at 10:54 am
$15k is a lot to many of us but it is a fraction for NFL players when you look at the big picture.
July 28th, 2012 at 10:56 am
Aig-Raiders Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 10:23 am
Mark,
Shut down corners are overrated. You dont need shut down corners to win the SB…see Giants. You need a solid scheme and a tough front 7.
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Overrated, if you have a great DL with 3 PB DEs (Tuck, Usi, and JPP).
July 28th, 2012 at 10:56 am
If Criner misses ANY practices at all, his agent has done him a grave disservice and should be canned immediately. Streater will pass him by on the depth chart in no time.
July 28th, 2012 at 10:56 am
Yeah – what’s 14k? How much did the organization pay for a QB that couldn’t play? 30-40 million? Shoot, they are still paying for that decision. 14,000 is a very small price to pay for potential. Plus, he definitely fits a need – big, possession receiver.
July 28th, 2012 at 10:59 am
Cranium68 Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 10:56 am
Yeah – what’s 14k? How much did the organization pay for a QB that couldn’t play? 30-40 million? Shoot, they are still paying for that decision. 14,000 is a very small price to pay for potential. Plus, he definitely fits a need – big, possession receiver.
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I wonder if maybe this wasn’t the issue with Bergstrom as well? In any case, Reggie’s holding the line on salaries, as well he should. If he breaks now, then every other agent of every other draft pick will know that he can get what he wants simply by threatening a holdout.
July 28th, 2012 at 10:59 am
this is good news. sooner we get these guys signed sooner we can add depth at other positions
July 28th, 2012 at 11:00 am
Criner better watch out, Reg isn’t a push-over and 144k bonus is fair for a supplemental pick.
July 28th, 2012 at 11:01 am
Marks Hair Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 10:41 am
34. Its not about shut down corners. Its about dbs that create takeaways..
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Actually its about systems that put the DBs into position to get TOs.
July 28th, 2012 at 11:02 am
He’s comparing his value decline to a normal draft pick, supplementals hold a lower salary value.
July 28th, 2012 at 11:07 am
Looks like some of you guys new practice pro bowler might be a diva!Hold fast Reg.
July 28th, 2012 at 11:08 am
Reg needs to put his agent in place, Criner hasn’t played a down yet in the NFL.
July 28th, 2012 at 11:11 am
Duck,
Since 1998, the majority of SB teams won without having a shut down corner. As a matter of fact, you can go back to the Niners and Cowboys as the last teams to truly have a shut down corner in Deion. Pitt, Pats, Giants, and Steelers were multiple SB winners with an avg CB tandem. Shut down corners are overrated. We need to spend money and draft picks on developing our front 7. If there ever was a time for Al to stick to workout wonders, JPP was that DUDE.
July 28th, 2012 at 11:12 am
Still, Criner better stay healthy and make some plays… it would be awesome if he could produce in the red zone the way he did at Arizona – think he averaged 11 TDs the past two years there. Shoot – half that production as a rookie would be great. Of course, still a long road to the 53-man roster – nothing is guaranteed.
July 28th, 2012 at 11:15 am
Aig-Raiders Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 11:11 am
Duck,
Since 1998, the majority of SB teams won without having a shut down corner. As a matter of fact, you can go back to the Niners and Cowboys as the last teams to truly have a shut down corner in Deion. Pitt, Pats, Giants, and Steelers were multiple SB winners with an avg CB tandem. Shut down corners are overrated. We need to spend money and draft picks on developing our front 7. If there ever was a time for Al to stick to workout wonders, JPP was that DUDE.
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Actually, Raider O was discussing shutdown corners, not me.
July 28th, 2012 at 11:16 am
The guy was a supplemental 5th round pick-essentially a 6th rounder.Be happy someone picked you,sign your contract,and get your ass into camp.
July 28th, 2012 at 11:17 am
$14k = down payment on a car for your mom. Pissing off your GM and HC = priceless
July 28th, 2012 at 11:17 am
Lefty12 Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 11:16 am
The guy was a supplemental 5th round pick-essentially a 6th rounder.Be happy someone picked you,sign your contract,and get your ass into camp.
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Couldn’t agree more. Does it seem like the NFL diva quotient is split 50/50 between WRs and everyone else?
July 28th, 2012 at 11:20 am
Duck-75/25 with WRs the 75.
July 28th, 2012 at 11:30 am
Aig,
I agree with you about the importance of the front 7, but I do believe there is more than one way to build a SB team.
Pitt has a great front 7 and they have a great Ballhawk SS (Troy).
Giants have a great DL that can create presure without blitzing.
F the pats! lol
July 28th, 2012 at 11:31 am
Hopefully, Tyvon can fill the Polamalu role for us…
July 28th, 2012 at 11:32 am
Congrats Bergstrom, You are officially an Oakland Raaaaaiiiiider! Let’s get her done and sign Criner already…will ya Reggie? Let’s get this rolling!
July 28th, 2012 at 11:33 am
Goldie7 Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 11:32 am
Congrats Bergstrom, You are officially an Oakland Raaaaaiiiiider! Let’s get her done and sign Criner already…will ya Reggie? Let’s get this rolling!
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See the above article. It’s Criner’s agent that’s being a jerk, not Reggie.
July 28th, 2012 at 11:39 am
HOLY CRUD
My inside sources tell me KrappyRat AND Brian the Genital will be attending THE SAME Raider practice on Friday at 2pm!
That means they both got their paws on free tixs and, after all these years of bickering and whining, will finally be able to settle their differences in person!
Hopefully they find a peaceful resolution, but with KrappyRat sure to soil his overalls in an old troll rage and Genital hell bent on proving he’s not just some dork with a dorm fridge, sparks are sure to fly
The Beeech Diggity and the Certified Platinum Posse will be on this story all week, check back often for hella sweet updates
PM PARTY PATROL N FULL EFFECT
July 28th, 2012 at 11:40 am
I like Branch a lot (one of my favorite Raiders), I think he is a top 10 safety, but I doubt he can be like Troy or Reed.
According to Sreve and Jerry, he has bad hands. I think he is just as good ad Yroy in coverage, but Troy has better hands and instincts.
July 28th, 2012 at 11:41 am
Yeah, Reggie throws nickels around like they were man-hole covers.
July 28th, 2012 at 11:42 am
Amy Trask has been warned.
LOL
July 28th, 2012 at 11:46 am
KrappyRat in the house, what’s up old troll?
The blog is buzzing about your highly anticipated face-to-face meeting with Brian the Genital at Friday’s free practice.
You know he’s going to be there right?
What are your thoughts on the topic, Krapster?
July 28th, 2012 at 11:47 am
So do you believe Reggie should give in,KK?
July 28th, 2012 at 11:48 am
Never mind.
July 28th, 2012 at 11:49 am
Raider O Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 11:42 am
Amy Trask has been warned.
LOL
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Can you believe these 2 blog goofs are finally going to meet in person … at a Raider’s practice no less!
It’s everything the PMPP has been working towards all these months, bong loads for everyone
July 28th, 2012 at 11:49 am
Chasing pennies while stepping over thousand dollar bills: you wonder if Criner has any common sense?
Plus, I am not sure the $14K in bonus money is actually at issue; that is just what a reporter somewhere wrote.
July 28th, 2012 at 11:51 am
I’m just saying. Reggie is a very deliberate man.
July 28th, 2012 at 11:57 am
52. So I guess namdi had a bunch of picks in his new system? It has nothing to do with hands & receving instincts huh?
July 28th, 2012 at 11:57 am
My guess is Brian the Genital will clean Krappy’s clock
Unless he gets too scared the troll has a few old fashioned Navy tricks up his sleeve, and stays home to watch Forrest Gump
You all know he’s got a history of not showing up (ahem … Ritz Carlton, marina del rey)
The plot indeed thickens!
July 28th, 2012 at 11:58 am
One thing is guaranteed, Criner will lose more than 14k in jersey sales behind a holdout.
July 28th, 2012 at 11:58 am
75. Yeah idk.. That seem like a bullshlt artical..
July 28th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
Nnamdi had 9 picks one year playing in a system that fit him.Bums cut by other teams go to Balt and get multiple picks yearly.It is the system.
July 28th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
Its article.
July 28th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
So we go from Al convincing Javon to uselessly hang around and collect 10 million to Reggie sweating 14k ?
Sweet !
Message to Criner: Can’t blame you for wanting to wrestle every nickle out of Reggie. Keep in mind though, you’ve got zero leverage. It would be one thing if Reggie was trying to severely lowball you. Even if you feel you’re getting slightly short-changed, you might want to look at the bigger picture and forget about what amounts to chump change in the long run if you’re to have a decent career. What are you going to do ? Hold out over 14k ? Get real and get in camp.
July 28th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
Its artical when your high
July 28th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
83. It might be his only contract..
July 28th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
If Criner holds out for 14k who looks worse? This rookie FIFTH ROUNDER who hasn’t played a single down or a cheap azz GM who won’t pony up a measly 14k?
This is ridiculous.
I’ve never heard in this day and age a contract dispute/holdout situation over 14,000 dollars.
July 28th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
This would be on Criner and agent, he needs to be at camp and Reg knows more than both of them.
July 28th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
Marks Hair Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
83. It might be his only contract..
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Great point. I think Reggie should give it to him. He is not asking for much, and he is not asking for 3rd or 4th round money.
Pay the man!!
July 28th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
Reg should give him the cash, after he beats out Streater in camp, if not give the 14k to Streater.lol
July 28th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
DJ-he is slotted and wants more than he is slotted to get.If Reg gives in other agents will try the same BS.People are always complaining about how we were always in cap hell.Now we have a GM who will fight to keep it in line.Hold fast Reg.
July 28th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
Its not a holdout yet.. Nobody holds out for 14k..lol
July 28th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
If Reggie let’s him walk some other team will snap him up and gladly pay the measly 14k.
I’m sure everyone’s heard of Criners OTA achievements.
Hmmm, where we have heard of Raider GM’s who worry more about saving face and their ego’s than what’s important to the team’s success?
July 28th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
My two questions are:
Did Reggie follow league protocol with the other supplemental picks?
Do all other GMs follow league protocol?
July 28th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
Raider O Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
Marks Hair Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
83. It might be his only contract..
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Great point. I think Reggie should give it to him. He is not asking for much, and he is not asking for 3rd or 4th round money.
Pay the man!!
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Why? So every agent can demand more than their rookie client is due? Criner needs to sign his fair offer and get in here. Overpaying for unproven talent was Al’s way. Al’s gone.
July 28th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
TxRaider210 Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
Reg should give him the cash, after he beats out Streater in camp, if not give the 14k to Streater.lol
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Put the 14K on the table, and let them compete for it.
July 28th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
It might be his only contract..
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Yes, it might be. Could be he doesn’t even make the team. Might tear up a knee in camp.
Who knows ?
But what’s he gonna do ? Hold out until camp is over with and hope Reggie is going to pony up some more coin at that time ?
Refuse to sign at all and sit out the season ?
He’ll wind up signing.
July 28th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
KK Munster, how does a happily married real estate tycoon have time to blog around the clock 7 days a week?
July 28th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
Yep
If Criner beats Streater, give him the 14k, Streater wins he deserves a small bonus for beating Criner. He needs to be careful because Reg puts team first.
July 28th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
Done.
Whut up beyotches!
July 28th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
Avoiding distractions and making a player happy is worth the 14k IMO.
I’m not saying we should overpay for talent like Al did, but Al never had a problem signing draft picks.
July 28th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
This didn’t have to become public and now an “issue”. They should’ve worked something out behind closed doors…c’mon 14k???
I’m not saying Reggie is being a stubborn egomaniac, but this Criner thing has started off on the wrong foot for sure.
Reggie should not give in at this point, I agree with that…now that it’s “out there”, but this shouldn’t have gotten this far over this amount.
July 28th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
He is slotted to get what he’s asking for.. But reg wants to pay only what the league says he has to. As a compensatory pick, he isnt due they pay slot between #32 of his rd & #1 of the next rd. comp picks get screwed by rule.. But reg should do the right thing and pay him as if he was a regular pick..
July 28th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
O
Damn right they should, and it’d send a message to Criner that he hasn’t won the job yet.
July 28th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
Whut up HO?
July 28th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
Read the damn article.Reggie is offering exactly what the league says he should get per his slot.If he doesn’t want to sign we still hold his rights for this year.Do you honestly think he’d get more next year?He was essentially a 6th round pick-not a 1st or 2nd rd pick.
July 28th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
Raider O Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
Marks Hair Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
83. It might be his only contract..
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Great point. I think Reggie should give it to him. He is not asking for much, and he is not asking for 3rd or 4th round money.
Pay the man!!
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You can’t just “pay the man”. It’s not about 14 grrr. There is a new system in place that pays new players according to their draft slot status. As soon as one team ignores that it sets a precedent, and then all bets are off and players can start screwing around and demanding whatever they want even tho they have not played a down which is what the league is trying to stop. Don’t be a dummass.
July 28th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
Well Jerry basically made fun of anyone worried about this Criner thing. Then again, who would have a imagined a contract dispute over 14,000.
July 28th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
Reg has all the leverage against a talented Rookie, Criner needs to take the deal asap.
July 28th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
Raider O Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
Whut up HO?
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Just finishing up a rather fk’d up month slinging the Korean metal.
July 28th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
Read the last paragragh of the artical. He just wants to get paid in line with the other picks… Its like giving one of your kid less allowance because he has freckles..
July 28th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
How many people here would now rather get maybe a Burris jersey instead of Criner?…maybe not many, but he’s losing cash as we blog.imo
July 28th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
102.Marks hair Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
He is slotted to get what he’s asking for.. But reg wants to pay only what the league says he has to. As a compensatory pick, he isnt due they pay slot between #32 of his rd & #1 of the next rd. comp picks get screwed by rule.. But reg should do the right thing and pay him as if he was a regular pick..
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Couldn’t Reggie add some incentives to the deal and settle this without having to set a precedent of caving in.
July 28th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
I wonder if Criner realizes the 14g’s after the agents % (700), taxes (5600) It’s only 7700 dollars.
Sign the contract get to camp, being on the bench will cost Criner millions.
July 28th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
I’m sure RM has explained the bigger picture to Criner, he must have a douchey agent.
July 28th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
New post.
July 28th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
Sure.. But I dont really see it as caving in.. if the first pic gets 1 dollar, and the third pic get 3 dollars then criner the hypothetical second pic, should get 2 dollars whether he’s a compensatory pic or not…
July 28th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
Talk about jumping over a $20 to grab a $5.
14K after taxes and agent fee’s and union dues, insurance, etc, is probably around half of that.
All these guys, be it top 10 picks or 5th rounders, need to get their azz in camp, in the good graces of the organization, and try to get to that BIG payday, which is your 2nd NFL contract.
The Reggie has spoken, and he will not give in, nor should he. He folds, and it has a domino effect league-wide.
July 28th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
That’s plenty of cash for Criner to live a nice lifestyle and prove he’s worth big money.
July 28th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
JFB,too bad some can’t understand this part.
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Just Fire Baby Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
The Reggie has spoken, and he will not give in, nor should he. He folds, and it has a domino effect league-wide
July 28th, 2012 at 11:54 pm
I don’t blame Reggie for low balling this kid Criner. If Criner won’t give in here he is only committing professional suicide. If I was a GM and was witnessing what was going on here I wouldn’t touch Criner with a ten foot pole. He’s acting like Randy Moss and TO combined. Such behavior bodes badly; what will Criner be like once he has some success?
Reggie is a cheap ass and good enought for him. Gone are the days when idiot AD will offer a water boy a million buck to fetch for the season.
If I were Reggie, if Criner didn’t show up in camp, I would kick him to the curb. My next target would be the big, lousy chlub, Seymour.