Raiders sign Bergstrom, set sights on Criner

Posted on July 28, 2012 by Steve Corkran

The Raiders signed third-round draft pick Tony Bergstrom on the eve of training camp, as expected. That leaves wide receiver Juron Criner as the only unsigned player on Oakland’s roster.
As was the case with Bergstrom, the Raiders aren’t expected to have any difficulty getting Criner under contract and on the field in Napa on time for camp.
Bergstrom is being looked at as a guard for now. He is capable of playing guard and tackle. He was Oakland’s top pick in this year’s NFL draft, with the final selection of the third round.

Steve Corkran

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woooooo. What a game, behind all game, just to win in the end!
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CanuckRaider Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 9:39 am
#89: Yep…Remember how well trying to make Brayton and that other big guy outside linebackers worked?…LMAO.

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That was because Rob Ryan had Brayton and Irons (try to) play standard OLB, as opposed to Allen and Tarver who understand you can’t do that.
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Let’s get to camp.
CanuckRaider

Our first real NFL coaching staff in ages will make a big difference.
Marks hair

5?
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CanuckRaider Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 9:55 am
Our first real NFL coaching staff in ages will make a big difference.

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Agreed. The last real up-and-comer we hired as HC was Gruden, 14 years ago.
Marks hair

You need 3-4 players to run a 3-4. DA is smart.. He’ll figure out real quick that kelly cant handle the nt spot.. Plus we dont really have the right lbs or the lb depth.. Snatsy is not an option as an olb in the 3-4..
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Marks Hair Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 9:55 am
You need the proper personel to run a 3-4 and da is gonna find out real quick that kelly cant handle the nt. Not to mention our lack of lbs..

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Methinks Kelly’s on the way out. DA couldn’t have been happy that he publicly talks up Kelly as NT, only to have Kelly just as publicly whine that he doesn’t want to play the position.
Marks hair

Right.. So not alot of 3-4.
Marks hair

I was saying kelly, dvd & a 1st rd pick for revis.. I guess its too far fetched..
TxRaider210

11th
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Marks Hair Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 10:03 am
Right.. So not alot of 3-4.

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We’ve still got Ivey, who apparently the coaches think highly of. Kelly (if he stays, which is not guaranteed) could split time with him at NT. I still say (and goodness knows I’ve been wrong before) that they wouldn’t have asked Seymour to shed pounds to play 3-4 DE unless they were serious about using it.
TxRaider210

Criner should be signed very soon, get it done Reg!
Marks hair

In fact im starting a rumor. The raiders are offering kelly dvd & a 1st rd pick for revis.. Make a headline for once jerry. Ill be your “source”
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Marks Hair Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 10:11 am
In fact im starting a rumor. The raiders are offering kelly dvd & a 1st rd pick for revis.. Make a headline for once jerry. Ill be your “source”

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Not gonna happen. Reggie ain’t waiting around until Round 3 in two drafts straight.
Marks hair

12 kelly cant play the nt. He knows this and came right out and said so.. as for ivey, the coaches have never seen him play or practice…
ELWAYs TEETH

It’s not just the NT problem, We don’t have the LBs for a 3-4, or a 4-3 for that matter. Cutting McLame would send the message and rid us of another loser.
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We need to change defensive coordinators more often than once every 50 years.
Marks hair

He could trade the following drafts #1. But yeah I know.. He’s not too woried about making the playoffs this yr.. He’s all about picks.
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We do have the LBs for 3-4 (even assuming #77 stays on the line):

Wheeler, McClain, Curry, Burris as the starters.

Goethel and Stupar backing up the inside.

Curry can slide outside if needed, and be supplemented by Ihenacho, Kurn, Burnett, or some final-cut pickup.

Not perfect, but it’s good enough with a strong system.
ELWAYs TEETH

Playing a lot more zone defense should put a stop to those long runs we’ve been giving up for too many years. We had too many DBs running downfield with their backs turned, covering receivers, while running backs ran free after LBs whiffed. Those long runs kill us.
Marks hair

17 preaching to the choir. We just dont have 3-4 personnel.. Id rather trade romac or wait till next yr to save the $ and see if he wakes up..
aig-raiders

Mark,

Shut down corners are overrated. You dont need shut down corners to win the SB…see Giants. You need a solid scheme and a tough front 7.
DJ Johnny

67.Marks hair Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 8:57 am
Wow he took a 5-11 team all the way up to 8-8 in only 2 seasons!! Quick lets rehire the cable guy! What an amazing coach!
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I just said the guy was “decent”, not amazing. By “decent” i mean average and not horrible.

We can do better and i think we have…but we won’t know for sure until we see how it all goes down.
Marks hair

20. Have you looked at that shltty list of lbs? I dont 4 of those losers plus kelly at the nt.. Ppl would average 8 yds a carry.
ELWAYs TEETH

RaiderDuck, You’re counting on a lot of guys that haven’t proven they can do all that……yet. I hope you’re right and I agree that there needs to be more than just a 4-3 vanilla D all the time, but you have to play to the strength of your personnel. I just don’t see it yet.
Marks hair

21. Right..
Marks hair

We will play more 4-2-5 & 3-3-5 nickel than we do 3-4.. Our lbs just dont need to be out there..not 4 of them.
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Marks Hair Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 10:28 am
We will play more 4-2-5 & 3-3-5 nickel than we do 3-4.. Our lbs just dont need to be out there..not 4 of them.

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Seymour, Ivey, Shaughnessy on the line.

Wheeler, McClain, Burris at LB.

Nickelback in.

That could work on some passing downs.
DJ Johnny

4.CanuckRaider Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 9:55 am
Our first real NFL coaching staff in ages will make a big difference.
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I’m hoping so.

I’m looking more for “clutch” plays than offensive and defensive rankings cuz they don’t necessarily translate to wins.

San Diego is good example. 2 yrs. ago they were # 1 in defense and # 1 in offense. What did they finish? 9-7?
ELWAYs TEETH

RaiderDuck,
I see McCheese working the Drive Thru, asking, “Does ya’ll wanna Supersize that?” He does not belong on the field as a Raider until he grows up and becomes accountable for his actions. Come on man.
Marks hair

24. I was responding to you and the guy that said cable would have made the playoffs last yr.. Bottom line. He was a loser. And im hoping we’re done with that. I want coaches who know what they’re fu¢king doing..
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ELWAYs TEETH Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 10:35 am
RaiderDuck,
I see McCheese working the Drive Thru, asking, “Does ya’ll wanna Supersize that?” He does not belong on the field as a Raider until he grows up and becomes accountable for his actions. Come on man.

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Okay, then put Curry, Goethel and/or Stupar in at MLB.
DJ Johnny

23.aig-raiders Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 10:23 am
Mark,

Shut down corners are overrated. You dont need shut down corners to win the SB…see Giants. You need a solid scheme and a tough front 7.
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GB goes 15-1 with worst pass D IN HISTORY…New Eng. gets to SB with 30th ranked D? Giants WIN SB with 29th ranked pass D?

You don’t wanna promote being a bad pass defense as a game plan but it makes me wonder if Reggie hasn’t taken note of such stats and is lessening the importance of spending alot of $$$ or sense of urgency in that area thinking Bartell, Chekwa, and Spencer will be fine…?
Marks hair

Time to mow the lawn.. & check on the christmas trees..
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Keep in mind that a lot of those numbers against GB and NE are not necessarily the result of a bad pass defense, but rather the result of offenses in two-minute mode racking up an easy touchdown against a defense playing Prevent. Doesn’t really matter if they still win the game by 14 instead of 21.
Marks hair

34. Its not about shut down corners. Its about dbs that create takeaways..
DJ Johnny

32.Marks hair Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 10:35 am
24. I was responding to you and the guy that said cable would have made the playoffs last yr.. Bottom line. He was a loser. And im hoping we’re done with that. I want coaches who know what they’re fu¢king doing..
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I got ya. We disagree on how awful the hapless Cableman was. He should not have been HC in the 1st place. I think he maximized the potential he had…which admittedly wasn’t a heck of a lot.

I dfeinitely want coaches who know what they’re doing. I THINK we have that now, but we haven’t seen ‘em in action yet so I have to reserve someof my optimism…

I like what i’m seeing so far.
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http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/id/46099/bonus-dispute-root-of-criner-delay

By Bill Williamson | ESPN.com

What’s the difference between promising Oakland Raiders receiver Juron Criner being at training camp Monday morning when the team opens camp and him not being there?

Fourteen thousand dollars.

According to a source with knowledge of the situation, the fifth-round pick has yet to sign his rookie contract with the Raiders because the two sides are squaring off over his signing bonus. Criner wants $158,000 while the team is offering $144,000. The Arizona receiver — who was an OTA star for the Raiders — is the only non-first round pick who is unsigned.

According to the source, Criner’s request is based on what the players drafted directly ahead of him were paid in bonus money. The total difference between the bonus money from the No. 26-32 picks in the fifth round is $18,000-plus dollars. From picks No. 30-32 in the round; the difference between the bonus money was in the $2,000 range for each pick. The bonus money for the No. 32 pick in the fifth round (Cincinnati safety George Iloka) was $160,000-plus. Criner wants the $2,000 bonus decline to continue.

However, the issue is Criner was the No. 33 pick of the round as a supplemental pick. The NFL’s Management Council’s guidelines for bonus slotting takes a significant decline for supplemental picks. The guidelines for the No. 33 pick of the fifth round is the $144,000 the Raiders are offering.

The dispute is very simple. The player wants to stay in line with what the picks ahead of him received and the team wants to stick to the league’s protocol for the pick. According to the source, Criner likely will not sign until the issue is resolved.
ELWAYs TEETH

Give him his $14K and get him into camp.
aig-raiders

@DJ, Yup we agree on the corners stuff. The only reason why we cherished shut down corners was because of old Al.

@Mark, on Cable. He was the HC when we went from a league doormat to a respectable 8-8. Certainly better than the 3 prev guys before him.
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I got $20 on it..
aig-raiders

Criner is an idiot. $15k is nothing when compared to getting to camp and being on the right side with the Mgmt team. His agent should be FIRED. If he has a year similar to Dmoore, he’ll make a whole lot more than that $15k in a few years.
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Thx Duck.
I knew it was a contract dispute.
aig-raiders

$15k is a lot to many of us but it is a fraction for NFL players when you look at the big picture.
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Aig-Raiders Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 10:23 am
Mark,

Shut down corners are overrated. You dont need shut down corners to win the SB…see Giants. You need a solid scheme and a tough front 7.
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Overrated, if you have a great DL with 3 PB DEs (Tuck, Usi, and JPP).
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If Criner misses ANY practices at all, his agent has done him a grave disservice and should be canned immediately. Streater will pass him by on the depth chart in no time.
cranium68

Yeah – what’s 14k? How much did the organization pay for a QB that couldn’t play? 30-40 million? Shoot, they are still paying for that decision. 14,000 is a very small price to pay for potential. Plus, he definitely fits a need – big, possession receiver.
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Cranium68 Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 10:56 am
Yeah – what’s 14k? How much did the organization pay for a QB that couldn’t play? 30-40 million? Shoot, they are still paying for that decision. 14,000 is a very small price to pay for potential. Plus, he definitely fits a need – big, possession receiver.

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I wonder if maybe this wasn’t the issue with Bergstrom as well? In any case, Reggie’s holding the line on salaries, as well he should. If he breaks now, then every other agent of every other draft pick will know that he can get what he wants simply by threatening a holdout.
alf_capone

this is good news. sooner we get these guys signed sooner we can add depth at other positions