Branch, Seymour and McFadden talk about culture change
By Steve Corkran
Sunday, July 29th, 2012 at 6:50 pm in Oakland Raiders.
From the new coaching staff to the roster to the way business is conducted by the Raiders these days, it’s not difficult to notice that this is the dawn of a “new era,” as the Raiders media guide touts in block letters.
Things were run a specific way under late owner Al Davis for most of the past 50 years or so. Change abounds in Raidersland these days.
“They’re real strict on discipline now,” strong safety Tyvon Branch said, “as far as showing up to meetings. They’re even making us check in for lunches and dinners now. They’re trying to change the discipline factor.”
Let’s just assume that Branch meant showing up on time to meetings and not just showing up, period. Either way, general manager Reggie McKenzie and coach Dennis Allen have a way that they want things done, and the players are learning that, you either climb aboard or get left at the station.
Bottom line, running back Darren McFadden and defensive tackle Richard Seymour said, it’s incumbent upon the players to take what they hear and see from their coaches and get it to translate onto the field.
“Just knowing where to be and where to be at the right time and being there on time, that’s one main thing for us,” McFadden said. “And I feel by tightening down a lot of things. that’s going to help the guys and that’s going to translate on to the playing fields.”
Seymour said there needed to be change, if for no other reason than the fact the Raiders went 8-8 last season and missed the playoffs for the ninth straight season.
Yet, the players shouldn’t have to be told what needs to be done. If they do need to be told, well, then, they should be able to do as told.
“We’re all grown men and we should all know how to follow the rules,” Seymour said. “I don’t think that’s a big adjustment if that’s who you are. That’s who you should be anyway.”
– Allen said he intends on using McFadden in exhibition games and not holding him out the way the San Diego Chargers used to do with lead back LaDainian Tomlinson.
That’s fine with McFadden, he said. Give him the ball and let him do what he does best.
“It’s whatever he decides to give me,” McFadden said of Allen. “If he wants me out there eight or nine plays, that’s fine. If he wants me out there 20 plays, that’s fine. It’s not a big deal to me. It’s playing football. I enjoy doing that. I love being out there doing it.”
As for McFadden’s role, he said he doesn’t mind if he is used primarily as a ballcarrier or if offensive coordinator Greg Knapp uses him as a wide receiver from time to time.
Former Raiders coach Tom Cable capitalized on McFadden’s ability to create a mismatch in the Raiders favor by lining him up out wide every now and then. That’s something that Cable’s successor, Hue Jackson, got away from.
It says here that the Raiders would be wise to go back to using McFadden as many ways as possible. Seeing him lined up against a safety or smaller cornerback oftentimes spelled doom for the opponent.
McFadden said he has heard the talk about him being injury-prone and not durable enough to hold up over the course of a 16-game season.
It’s something that he takes in stride, confident in the fact his injuries have been more of a fluke thing and not the result of his not being in shape or being able to play through pain.
“You hear that all the time, but that’s something I can’t do anything about,” McFadden said. “It’s not like I’m going out there and just falling over and getting hurt. I’m out there playing and going hard. So I can live with that if I get hurt that way.”
Through it all, McFadden doesn’t intend to change his aggressive style of play. It’s what makes him so successful, even if it also makes him more susceptible to injury.
“It’s one of those things, it happens in football,” McFadden said of injuries. “I can’t say I’m unlucky about it because I’m a very blessed person to even be playing in this league. I just go out there and take it one day at a time. I can’t control injuries. If I get hurt, I’m going to get hurt going hard because that’s something I can’t control, and I’m not going to go out there and play not to get hurt.”
– Seymour isn’t one to talk much about injuries. In fact, one time he chided me for asking a player about his injury status in the locker room.
Hence, it’s not surprising that Seymour isn’t keen about writing off his up-and-down play last season to his myriad injuries.
“Injuries are a part of the game,” Seymour said. “You never want to talk about injuries. That’s one thing you really don’t want to get into, how bad you’re hurt or whatever the case may be.
“I came out of the gate well and then a knee injury, and then I kind of slowed down from there. Toward the end of the year, I started to regain my form a little bit. I’m optimistic and feeling good right now. Feeling good and excited about the season. I’ll be ready to go.”
Seymour added that he is excited about the change in the Raiders defensive philosophy from one that relied upon man coverage, four defensive linemen rushin the passer and a dearth of blitzing.
Under first-year coordinator Jason Tarver, the Raiders intend to be what Allen calls “multiple.” That means an infusion of a 3-4 alignment, more zone coverage and frequent blitzing from all over the field.
“If you want to be one of the best, or one of the elite, in the league, you have to be able to do multiple things,” Seymour said. “Be versatile, playing this front, that front, rush the passer, stop the run, just being an every-down player. That’s how you make yourself valuable. It’s hard work but this is a big-boy league.”
Branch said he and his teammates are excited about the prospect of playing in a varied scheme, where teams aren’t as apt to know what’s coming on a given down.
“It’s a lot of new stuff we’re learning,” Branch said. “We were primarily a man-to-man team, so to get some zone stuff, some different stuff going in, there’s definitely a lot of learning going into it. But everybody is up to the challenge.”
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July 29th, 2012 at 6:53 pm
July 29th, 2012 at 6:53 pm
Seymour’s proven to be nothing more than a shill.
I’ll take McFadden and Branch at their word, and pass on Seymour’s take on things.
July 29th, 2012 at 6:56 pm
Seymour added that he is excited about the change in the Raiders defensive philosophy from one that relied upon man coverage, four defensive linemen rushin the passer and a dearth of blitzing.
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Wasn’t he talking about the old defense as well??
Shill
July 29th, 2012 at 6:57 pm
*talking up*
When he came over from New England, he talked up how much he liked the 4 down lineman approach, the simple go beat your man and play Raider football company line.
July 29th, 2012 at 7:02 pm
my grades for our line:
veldheer B
carlisle C+ (used to be B+)
wiz B-
brisiel C+
barnes C
July 29th, 2012 at 7:03 pm
I liked Coahes man to man defense. Problem is there are no more Lester Hayes’. But whatever Allen construes will be just fine.
Nawleens Baby
July 29th, 2012 at 7:07 pm
offensive skill guys:
TE:
myers C-
ausberry C+ (with upside)
WR:
dhb B (with upside)
moore B- (with upside)
ford C+
RB:
dmc A
goodson C+
jones C+ (with upside)
FB:
reece B+ with ball/D as blocker
scmitt C
QB:
palmer B+
leinart C-
pryor D (with upside)
July 29th, 2012 at 7:15 pm
defense:
DL:
shaugnessy B+
seymour B+
kelly B
houston C
bryant C+
tollefson C-
bilukidi D (with upside)
crawford C+ (with upside)
LB:
mcclain D+
curry C+
wheeler C
burris C+ (with upside)
goethel C+
stupar C
DB:
spencer C-
bartell C
branch B
huff C+
dvd D (with upside)
chekwa C (with upside)
giordano C+
mitchell C-
July 29th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
[...] Branch, Seymour and McFadden talk about culture change From the new coaching staff to the roster to the way business is conducted by the Raiders these days, it’s not difficult to notice that this is the dawn of a “new era,” as the Raiders media guide touts in block letters. Things were … [...]
July 29th, 2012 at 7:24 pm
Seymour has been the anchor of a very good Raider D-Line.
July 29th, 2012 at 7:24 pm
special teams:
seabass A-
lechler A+
ford A
moore C-
July 29th, 2012 at 7:29 pm
I’ll believe in the “culture change” after I see the full product in Week 1, vs. San Diego.
July 29th, 2012 at 7:47 pm
Rich, start with yourself and lead by example. Your “meltdowns” are not following the rules. Getting tossed is NOT following the “rules”
By your own definition of a grown man you are falling well short!
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“We’re all grown men and we should all know how to follow the rules,” Seymour said. “I don’t think that’s a big adjustment if that’s who you are. That’s who you should be anyway.
July 29th, 2012 at 7:49 pm
there’s almost a guarantee of culture change. al davis is dead. many of the people involved with the raiders are gone. there are new people at owner, gm, and the coaching staff. it’s practically just another organization, with little ties to the raiders as we’ve always known (and loved) them. in fact, it’s the time to go to another team if u want to, because this is frankly a “raiders” team in name and uniform color only. many of the players return and they might bring with them old habits, but calling this team the raiders is barely more accurate than calling jon gruden’s buccaneers team the raiders. i will continue to be raiders fan b/c it’s what i know. but i’m not sure it will ever be the same.
are the yankees the same yankees that had ruth, gherig, dimaggio, etc? kinda makes u wonder who ur really rooting for. mark davis, reggie mckenzie, and dennis allen? why do i care? it’s basically the uniforms and the memories the fact they’re in oakland.
July 29th, 2012 at 8:01 pm
There’s more to “culture change” than just change in regime. Just ask the Cleveland Browns — as many times as they’ve changed coaches, GMs, players, etc., they’re still a bunch of losers. Detroit has NEVER been to a Super Bowl. The Bills and Vikings have each been to the Super Bowl four times and lost every single one. Culture change begins with attitude and then peaks with top level performance — THAT’S what I’m looking for …
July 29th, 2012 at 8:10 pm
Yes, this is the 1st Camp without Mr Davis.
You were all here for this piece of history.
July 29th, 2012 at 8:12 pm
This is a big fkn deal
July 29th, 2012 at 8:16 pm
Just knowing where to be and where to be at the right time and being there on time, that’s one main thing for us,” McFadden said.
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I guess that would preclude your starting MLB from leaving the team for an entire week, during the height of a playoff push, to, ahem, attend a funeral.
You listening, Rododo ?
July 29th, 2012 at 8:21 pm
# 16 & 17 Mr Kool
I miss Coach. But am glad to see his son hired Big Reg and the team is right now poised and on the doorstep of the post season. Yes that’s right. But the fact remains Coach is dearly missed. We are entering a new era of Raidah ball and let’s hope the legend of Coach burns bright. Yes it is a new day.
Nawleens Baby!
July 29th, 2012 at 8:37 pm
Culture change ? Probably wouldn’t be such a necessity if you had players that acted like dedicated professionals. You’ve got to have men that take their jobs seriously and perform accordingly, instead of jerks that have to be constantly monitored like irresponsible pampered children.
Shouldn’t be necessary to have a paramilitary atmosphere, but unfortunately, today it is.
Culture change might start at the top of the organization, but can only be realized if the players endorse it and fully cooperate.
Talk is cheap.
July 29th, 2012 at 8:39 pm
Raiders have an overall B+ at minimum in the Oline, in my ever so humble opinion; if not an A-.
July 29th, 2012 at 8:40 pm
Rob_raider Says:
July 29th, 2012 at 7:02 pm
my grades for our line:
veldheer B
carlisle C+ (used to be B+)
wiz B-
brisiel C+
barnes C
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Veldheer B+
Bergstrom N/A
Wiz B+
Brisiel B
Barnes F
Carlisle sucks and is an Incomplete
July 29th, 2012 at 8:41 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
July 29th, 2012 at 8:37 pm
Culture change ? Probably wouldn’t be such a necessity if you had players that acted like dedicated professionals. You’ve got to have men that take their jobs seriously and perform accordingly, instead of jerks that have to be constantly monitored like irresponsible pampered children.
Shouldn’t be necessary to have a paramilitary atmosphere, but unfortunately, today it is.
Culture change might start at the top of the organization, but can only be realized if the players endorse it and fully cooperate.
Talk is cheap.
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I agree old timer
July 29th, 2012 at 8:42 pm
Raiders need to be 3-1 at bye week or I expect Reggie to begin trading players for draft picks.
July 29th, 2012 at 8:43 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 29th, 2012 at 8:10 pm
Yes, this is the 1st Camp without Mr Davis.
You were all here for this piece of history.
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Come on man….really
July 29th, 2012 at 8:44 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 29th, 2012 at 7:24 pm
Seymour has been the anchor of a very good Raider D-Line.
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How can the dline be very good when they field awful defenses?
July 29th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
MistaBrown Says:
July 29th, 2012 at 7:47 pm
Rich, start with yourself and lead by example. Your “meltdowns” are not following the rules. Getting tossed is NOT following the “rules”
By your own definition of a grown man you are falling well short!
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“We’re all grown men and we should all know how to follow the rules,” Seymour said. “I don’t think that’s a big adjustment if that’s who you are. That’s who you should be anyway.
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There ya go! Exactly Mista…one of the main guys that need to just shut up and play is Seymour….4 seasons here and he hasnt brought it yet IMO…dont give me that pro bowl schit either…they based that on the first half of season for him
July 29th, 2012 at 8:53 pm
If you blame Al for the worst 7 yr. period in Raider history then you have to give him some credit for the last 2 yrs. of a return to respectability.
The Raiders 16-16 record over past 2 seasons rank them in the upper half of the league (just barely, but still…)
I’m excited about the “new regime”. I’m drinking the kool-aid. I have a good feeling about all this.
We don’t have to destroy Al Davis’s “legacy” to embrace the new regime. It’s a passing of the baton.
July 29th, 2012 at 8:53 pm
Rob_raider Says:
July 29th, 2012 at 7:07 pm
offensive skill guys:
TE:
myers C-
ausberry C+ (with upside)
WR:
dhb B (with upside)
moore B- (with upside)
ford C+
RB:
dmc A
goodson C+
jones C+ (with upside)
FB:
reece B+ with ball/D as blocker
scmitt C
QB:
palmer B+
leinart C-
pryor D (with upside)
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TE
myers: C
Ausberry: D
WR
DHB= C+
Moore B+
Ford D+
RB
DMac A-
Goodson C
Tawain C-
Reece C+
FB
Schmitt N/A
Reece F- as a blocker
QB
Palmer D+ until he shows he is back to 05-06 level
Leinart F
Pryor N/A
July 29th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
July 29th, 2012 at 8:44 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 29th, 2012 at 7:24 pm
Seymour has been the anchor of a very good Raider D-Line.
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How can the dline be very good when they field awful defenses?
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Cause the linebacking and the secondary suck ass. That’s why they let go two starters in the secondary and drafted 2 LB’s and then brought in one FA LB.
July 29th, 2012 at 8:55 pm
Our DL and Ss are solid IMO. I like to add a NT with pass rushing ability, but hey are hard to find. (Ngata and Wilfork).
July 29th, 2012 at 8:57 pm
They*
How was your weekend B?
July 29th, 2012 at 9:01 pm
Rob_raider Says:
July 29th, 2012 at 7:15 pm
defense:
DL:
shaugnessy B+
seymour B+
kelly B
houston C
bryant C+
tollefson C-
bilukidi D (with upside)
crawford C+ (with upside)
LB:
mcclain D+
curry C+
wheeler C
burris C+ (with upside)
goethel C+
stupar C
DB:
spencer C-
bartell C
branch B
huff C+
dvd D (with upside)
chekwa C (with upside)
giordano C+
mitchell C-
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DL
Shaugnessy C+
Seymour C+
Kelly D-
Houston C…would be B+ at UT
Bryant C-
Tollefson D
Both rookies=N/A
LB
McClain C-….would help if he had a real NT in front of him
Curry C
Wheeler C-
Burris/Goethel N/A
Stupar LOL
CB
Spencer F
Bartell B-
DVD D+
Chekwa C
FS
Huff F——-
Giordano C
SS
Branch B
Mitchell C
July 29th, 2012 at 9:02 pm
Raider O…chillin…I planned to get on with the AMers but excitement is brewing so i couldnt resist
July 29th, 2012 at 9:04 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
July 29th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
July 29th, 2012 at 8:44 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 29th, 2012 at 7:24 pm
Seymour has been the anchor of a very good Raider D-Line.
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How can the dline be very good when they field awful defenses?
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Cause the linebacking and the secondary suck ass. That’s why they let go two starters in the secondary and drafted 2 LB’s and then brought in one FA LB.
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Excuses Glenn….the dline is the main problem…..we dont have a NT…our UT is at LDE…Our RDE is really a LDE…our current NT is better served as a UT or LDE and our UT is a bum
July 29th, 2012 at 9:05 pm
Harsh Grading B.
Ford: C+
Reece (as a RB/ HB): B
Reece (as a blocker): C-
Palmer: B-
July 29th, 2012 at 9:07 pm
Damn Dude. That’s Harsh!
I can’t blame you. Hard not to get excited. WWTW (we will win the west)!
July 29th, 2012 at 9:07 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
July 29th, 2012 at 8:53 pm
If you blame Al for the worst 7 yr. period in Raider history then you have to give him some credit for the last 2 yrs. of a return to respectability.
The Raiders 16-16 record over past 2 seasons rank them in the upper half of the league (just barely, but still…)
I’m excited about the “new regime”. I’m drinking the kool-aid. I have a good feeling about all this.
We don’t have to destroy Al Davis’s “legacy” to embrace the new regime. It’s a passing of the baton.
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Exactly….schitting on Al Davis while he is taking a dirt nap accomplishes nada….he sure did draft DMAC,Wiz,Veldheer,Jones,Moore,Ford,DHB,Shaugnessy,Houston,Branch,Mitchell and others that helped us be mopre competitive…it takes time to get back right and Al said it would….well he was right
July 29th, 2012 at 9:07 pm
WWWTW*
July 29th, 2012 at 9:09 pm
Raider O Says:
July 29th, 2012 at 9:05 pm
Harsh Grading B.
Ford: C+
Reece (as a RB/ HB): B
Reece (as a blocker): C-
Palmer: B-
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No…..Ford is a D and was out partying night before SD game that was for a home playoff game
Ok Ill give you reece on the HB thing….but as a blocker he was rated the worse…so there he is a fkin F or Incomplete
Palmer cant be B status for many reasons but never winning a playoff game and being a tunrover machine tops that….he has my support but I’m calling it like it is
July 29th, 2012 at 9:11 pm
Yeah I’m a harsh grader Raider O….as you know those were the best teachers in school too….I remember I had the dept chair teaching one of my classes…toughest class in allthe major…I failed it 2 times….all of my friends never could pass it….well guess what I dug deep and on a coked out night wrote some film critiques that were epic and passed! Brought best out of me….didnt know I had it in me
July 29th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
DHB: B (with upside)
Moore: B-(with upside)
Ford: C+ (with upside)
jared: B+
Wiz: B
Reece: B-
July 29th, 2012 at 9:13 pm
Excuses Glenn….the dline is the main problem…..we dont have a NT…our UT is at LDE…Our RDE is really a LDE…our current NT is better served as a UT or LDE and our UT is a bum
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I don’t agree that everyone is out of position. The players that seem to be out of position are 55 and Mitchell. And I mean they are out of position when it comes to making a play. One point I will make is we need to go with an 8 man Dline rotation. I think we had 6 last year. Guys wore out midway through last season and that has happened the last few years.
July 29th, 2012 at 9:15 pm
i love al davis. i had a hard time admitting out loud to anything he did wrong. but he held onto the idea of being mavericks from the ’70’s a bit too much. i don’t like robotic, sterile atmospheres and the players don’t. but the team does need to run with discipline and professionalism. we’ll see if dennis allen can do that. jon gruden did it.
July 29th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
I thought he played well the last few games for someone who came out of retirement. He didn’t play in the Pre season or the 1st half of the regular season.
July 29th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
MistaBrown Says:
July 29th, 2012 at 7:47 pm
Rich, start with yourself and lead by example. Your “meltdowns” are not following the rules. Getting tossed is NOT following the “rules”
By your own definition of a grown man you are falling well short!
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I’ll give him a pass for slapping Roethlisberger, that was awesome. Even the other call was borderline.
What did you expect? The dude is on the tail end of his career and when he plays well, he plays well.
July 29th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
I know Bro. I had a few. I didn’t get the grades I wanted, but I enjoyed their classes and I learned a lot too.
July 29th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
Shoot, Alzado would have been ejected from a lot if games considering today’s rules.
July 29th, 2012 at 9:24 pm
Slapping Ben was great.
July 29th, 2012 at 9:27 pm
B,
Btw, what’s your major?
July 29th, 2012 at 9:29 pm
Even pretty boy Howie would have been ejected. Multiple times. ( I use the term pretty boy loosely, he’s an all time favorite)
I want there’s to be some piss and vinegar on the field. It’s part of being a Raider. Just now a days you have to reign it in. Getting ejected isn’t always a bad thing.
July 29th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 29th, 2012 at 6:56 pm
Seymour added that he is excited about the change in the Raiders defensive philosophy from one that relied upon man coverage, four defensive linemen rushin the passer and a dearth of blitzing.
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Wasn’t he talking about the old defense as well??
Shill
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Just Fire Baby Says:
July 29th, 2012 at 6:57 pm
*talking up*
When he came over from New England, he talked up how much he liked the 4 down lineman approach, the simple go beat your man and play Raider football company line.
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Maybe so, don’t remember. I do remember him not being too happy last year about the defense. Hilarious watching him blow off a question he was asked during a preseason interview where they asked him what he thought of the defensive philosophy. I remember thinking…”oh boy, here we go.” Of course, we were all thinking that when Chuck was hired last year.
July 29th, 2012 at 9:40 pm
Did Regan Upshaw ever get ejected from a game (as a Raider)?
July 29th, 2012 at 9:44 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
July 29th, 2012 at 9:13 pm
Excuses Glenn….the dline is the main problem…..we dont have a NT…our UT is at LDE…Our RDE is really a LDE…our current NT is better served as a UT or LDE and our UT is a bum
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I don’t agree that everyone is out of position. The players that seem to be out of position are 55 and Mitchell. And I mean they are out of position when it comes to making a play. One point I will make is we need to go with an 8 man Dline rotation. I think we had 6 last year. Guys wore out midway through last season and that has happened the last few years.
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Yeah well you dont have to agree with fact…most dont in this world
Mitchell plays the run perfect…and if McClain had better DTs in front of him he would be alot better
July 29th, 2012 at 9:44 pm
Some people are acting like Seymour is the next coming of Warren Sapp. Relax, he’s gonna handle biz on that line.
July 29th, 2012 at 9:45 pm
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July 29th, 2012 at 9:46 pm
Raider O Says:
July 29th, 2012 at 9:27 pm
B,
Btw, what’s your major?
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CTVA….basically the entertainment major lol…
July 29th, 2012 at 9:47 pm
morilla Says:
July 29th, 2012 at 9:29 pm
Even pretty boy Howie would have been ejected. Multiple times. ( I use the term pretty boy loosely, he’s an all time favorite)
I want there’s to be some piss and vinegar on the field. It’s part of being a Raider. Just now a days you have to reign it in. Getting ejected isn’t always a bad thing.
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This is exactly right. And in that Pitt game Kemoeatu who was generally regarded as one of the dirtiest players in the game kept taking cheap shots at all the Raider linemen. I thought Seymour punching Rothleisberger was an act of one of our guys standing up for his players. But of course you have to actually watch the game which Jamista Clown clearly didn’t.
July 29th, 2012 at 9:48 pm
Mitchell plays the run perfect
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Go put on the lst GB TD run from last year and say that statement again. this time with a straight face.
July 29th, 2012 at 9:50 pm
55.n8_austin Says:
July 29th, 2012 at 9:44 pm
Some people are acting like Seymour is the next coming of Warren Sapp. Relax, he’s gonna handle biz on that line.
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Problem is he hasn’t really handled biz yet as a Raider.
I give him credit for blocking those fg’s at Arrowhead though. He came up big that game.
July 29th, 2012 at 9:53 pm
Seymour was a beast last year when he was healthy
http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2012/3/27/2905756/richard-seymour-highlights
July 29th, 2012 at 9:55 pm
Steve Corkran @CorkOnTheNFL
“@SRoutt26: #ChiefsNation #ChiefsNation #ChiefsNation” — Guess is, the Raider Nation hears you, and you will hear from them at Coliseum.
July 29th, 2012 at 9:56 pm
That’s the North County Times’ Scott Bair breaking the news that the quarterback (Kyle Boller) the Chargers brought in to take snaps in preseason games while Whitehurst nursed a knee injury has decided instead to retire from football.
He said the hell with it!!
I would too if I played for them Dolts!!
Lol…
July 29th, 2012 at 9:57 pm
realtruraider Says:
July 29th, 2012 at 9:53 pm
Seymour was a beast last year when he was healthy
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Exactly. There is no one that actually understands the game that will not agree with that statement. Seymour tweaked a knee half way through the season and was not the same til the last three weeks. The last three weeks of the season he was excellent again.
July 29th, 2012 at 9:58 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
July 29th, 2012 at 9:48 pm
Mitchell plays the run perfect
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Go put on the lst GB TD run from last year and say that statement again. this time with a straight face.
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Wow one play….next
July 29th, 2012 at 9:58 pm
Intrepid Says:
July 29th, 2012 at 9:55 pm
Steve Corkran @CorkOnTheNFL
“@SRoutt26: #ChiefsNation #ChiefsNation #ChiefsNation” — Guess is, the Raider Nation hears you, and you will hear from them at Coliseum.
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Here’s hoping Carson throws at him all day
July 29th, 2012 at 10:00 pm
62.Intrepid Says:
July 29th, 2012 at 9:55 pm
Steve Corkran @CorkOnTheNFL
“@SRoutt26: #ChiefsNation #ChiefsNation #ChiefsNation” — Guess is, the Raider Nation hears you, and you will hear from them at Coliseum.
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Cork, you picked the Raiders to be dead last in the division this yr.
July 29th, 2012 at 10:03 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
July 29th, 2012 at 9:46 pm
Raider O Says:
July 29th, 2012 at 9:27 pm
B,
Btw, what’s your major?
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CTVA….basically the entertainment major lol…
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Nice..interesting major, and you are in the right place.
July 29th, 2012 at 10:05 pm
I saw Seymour playing patty cake with the SD oline when we had em deep in their own end that last game. He was not double teamed either.
Rivers laid out a blanket, plugged in a tv and hooked up his dvd player…watched Cecil B Demilles “The Ten Commandments” then casually got up and threw to an open receiver.
Gotta get more pressure this yr.
July 29th, 2012 at 10:34 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
July 29th, 2012 at 9:44 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
July 29th, 2012 at 9:13 pm
Excuses Glenn….the dline is the main problem…..we dont have a NT…our UT is at LDE…Our RDE is really a LDE…our current NT is better served as a UT or LDE and our UT is a bum
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I don’t agree that everyone is out of position. The players that seem to be out of position are 55 and Mitchell. And I mean they are out of position when it comes to making a play. One point I will make is we need to go with an 8 man Dline rotation. I think we had 6 last year. Guys wore out midway through last season and that has happened the last few years.
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Yeah well you dont have to agree with fact…most dont in this world
Mitchell plays the run perfect…and if McClain had better DTs in front of him he would be alot better
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sorry but ur simply wrong here. mcclain is basically a punk. he likes to body slam little guys but he won’t get after guys his size or close to it. you need to record the games and rewatch plays over and over, watching individual players. it also helps to know the positions are supposed to be played. mcclain doesn’t fly to the ball and remain on the inside shoulder of the ball carrier. thomas howard used to do the same thing.
our DL is actually pretty good. seymour is a hall-of-famer. his penalties last year were stupid and he may be slowing down though. kelly is very good. makes a LOT of tackles for a DT. our LB’s have been horrendous for years. no discipline and no instinctiveness and no aggressive flying to the ball. mcclain is on the hot seat for a reason. he has shown flashes and he played much better in the 2nd half last season so there’s hope, but again, when ur a punk, ur weak in the face of equal competition. i’m not a believer. i hope he surprises me. curry has great athleticism and shows the willingness to actually go thru traffic and smack someone. he just may not have the greatest instincts. i’m hoping he improves. wheeler is a solid real LB. not great but a decent player. when i say “real LB’, i mean a guy who flies to the ball and shows ability to go thru traffic and keep his proper angle. we have had too many guys sitting back on their heels, like mcclain, or running way past their angle like howard used to. that’s why i really like burris. he shows a lot of playmaking instinct and desire. a real LB. and goethel playes like that too. not sure if he’ll be the same though. and don’t sleep on stupar. he’s nothing flashy but he plays the position properly. he played on an excellent defense at PSU and i wouldn’t be surprised to see him emerge eventually.
actually, chaz powell comes from that same PSU defense, as does crawford. they all may stick.
July 29th, 2012 at 10:43 pm
all of u cooper carlisle bashers don’t really know ur bizness. the man is a battler. he’s a ZBS guy. knows his angles and fights. he gets it done for the most part. and barnes is not bad either. the o-line is above average. not very much depth though.
the passing game should be very good this season. palmer has a chance to start from training camp. having 2 actual starters at wr and not 5 or 6 guys trying to be starters will help too. dhb and moore are the guys and they should have big years. i’m thinking 80/122/8 for dhb and 65/950/6 for moore. ford is a return man. he’ll see 25/350/1. it’s criner that will come up and get 45/650/8. streater and calhoun are development guys. ausberry could have a nice year too. something like 45/650/5.
the running game is top notch as long as dmc is healthy. goodson is perfect as a backup. he can handle 20 carries if needed, but if dmc is healthy, he won’t see much. jones should get 10 touches a game though. he’s light but he’s a big play waiting to happen.
July 29th, 2012 at 10:44 pm
Richard Seymour turned Tommy Kelly into a Pro Bowler
July 29th, 2012 at 10:46 pm
Wow one play….next
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Uh, last time I looked the Raider defense was giving up 5+ yards per rush. That’s more than one play.
July 29th, 2012 at 10:47 pm
Can’t wait till the boys play for reals in about couple of weeks , and I know a lot of you people are concerned about the D and for a good reason but I don’t really think we can judge our D from any of the past years because they were already put in disadvantage starting with their D coordinator, no training camp , and last but not least their D scheme was old school … So we cant really judge those players until their actually play in the modern scheme for once and we’ll def find out what we on that side of our team this year and I can’t wait
)) Go Raiders
July 29th, 2012 at 10:51 pm
The Raider DT’s were not asked to stop the Run.
July 29th, 2012 at 10:51 pm
the defense is the key.
the DL is pretty good. shaugnessy will emerge this year. he’s very good. seymour and kelly are tough. i’m not sold on houston as a DE. better as a guy slides up and down the line. he can penetrate and make tackles behind the line but i don’t see him as a pass rusher or an edge-sealer. i like bryant though. and crawford plays the position very well. very strong at turning plays in. stands strong when the plays are at him, then sheds the block and goes after the runner.
LB is huge because they have sucked for so long. mcclain sucks and i think he’ll get replaced by goethel or curry, who might be a monster inside, where can just go to the ball. wheeler will be ok. and i think burris could be a stud.
huff is ok. not great but not bad. i love branch. love his aggressiveness and tenacity. he never gives up on a play.
bartell and spencer are ok. holding the fort until dvd and chekwa can take their spots. and both of them have pretty good ability. dvd can cover anyone. just needs seasoning. chekwa looked good before he was injured.
the defense could potentially improve to the middle of the pack, and that would be good enough to get us in the playoffs because the offense will be very good, barring key injuries.
July 29th, 2012 at 10:56 pm
I’m really excited to see what Jones does in this one cut and go ZBS and also excited to see what Criner can do in the Red Zone ,we sorely missed a big RZ target in that area, I’m also excited to see our OL become even better with the addition of Briesel and Berstrom, I’m not sure how our TE situation will play out but really intriguing situation though, and our WR’s group should be head and shoulder above from last year and please McFadden can you stay healthy for once and put up MVP #s …
July 29th, 2012 at 10:58 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 29th, 2012 at 10:51 pm
The Raider DT’s were not asked to stop the Run.
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ur pretty much correct here. a lot of people don’t understand the game very well. it’s very difficult to make a lot of tackles as an interior lineman. ur simply too engaged with blockers. the best DT’s do make their fair share because when a RB is nearby, they swallow them up, but it’s the LB’s who are responsible for most of the tackling. the DL ties up blockers and clog lanes, allowing good LB’s to fly thru traffic and chip blocks to the RB. they need to maintain good angles, just like when ur trying to catch a greased pig or chicken. and they need to wrap up. our DT’s have made a good amount of tackles and are well-respected by players and coaches. our safeties routinely make the most tackles on the team, meaning duh, too many RB’s are getting to the 3rd level. our LB’s have been making less than 90 tackles and sometimes, like 65 on the year. horrible.
July 29th, 2012 at 10:59 pm
I think when you think about it ,we had good draft we prolly got 2-3 players who will be starting this year or next year
July 29th, 2012 at 10:59 pm
Rob_raider Says:
July 29th, 2012 at 7:49 pm
there’s almost a guarantee of culture change. al davis is dead. many of the people involved with the raiders are gone. there are new people at owner, gm, and the coaching staff. it’s practically just another organization, with little ties to the raiders as we’ve always known (and loved) them. in fact, it’s the time to go to another team if u want to, because this is frankly a “raiders” team in name and uniform color only. many of the players return and they might bring with them old habits, but calling this team the raiders is barely more accurate than calling jon gruden’s buccaneers team the raiders. i will continue to be raiders fan b/c it’s what i know. but i’m not sure it will ever be the same.
are the yankees the same yankees that had ruth, gherig, dimaggio, etc? kinda makes u wonder who ur really rooting for. mark davis, reggie mckenzie, and dennis allen? why do i care? it’s basically the uniforms and the memories the fact they’re in oakland.
I felt this right after AL Davis Passed. We will see , I love the potential Reggie has and Dennis Allen. I myself am worried with all the religious good boy being drafted. And I so hope some AL Davis seeps into Reggie and Allen, this is the Raiders and We wear Black and Silver for a reason. The Raiders are supposed to be hated by the boring everyday nfl teams. I so felt this right after Al passed. GO Raiders and here’s to hoping some Raiders nastiness will still be there. GO Defense!
July 29th, 2012 at 11:01 pm
We’ll see, can’t wait.
July 29th, 2012 at 11:03 pm
I’m thinking about a new slogan for this year .. How about “take no prisoners”
July 29th, 2012 at 11:05 pm
I know it’s hella old.. We should come up with a list of like 100 slogans and vote for the best one
July 29th, 2012 at 11:06 pm
I expect at least 9 wins this year.
July 29th, 2012 at 11:09 pm
if u read thru the lines and pay attention to what’s said, u can pick up on what the organization is thinking.
1) cutting carlisle and then moving him to LG for the first time in his career obviously means they would like bergstrom to be the guy. he might be, but 3rd rounders don’t usually start immediately. off. lineman usually take a year or so to know what they’re doing. carlisle will be a great example to bergstrom.
2) dennis allen said when he took the job that they really needed to get more out of the te position. well, i don’t blame him. look at the stats and ur not that impressed. but he hadn’t yet seen ausberry up close. i’m sure ausberry will be the guy. he has very good receiving skills and i think allen is very happy to have a player like him on the roster that no one really yet knows about. also reggie brought in humphrey, who started 7 games a few years ago for the packers. change is underway.
3) bringing in schmitt shows that they realize how bad of a blocker reece is.
4) they pretty much have to see if mcclain and curry will develop, but it’s soon or their out. they already brought in wheeler and with goethel, burris, and stuapr around, those two better start living up their abilities quickly, because options are in-house.
5) reggie made a clear point of saying they needed better CB play. he brought in two new starters and several options for depth. it is no guarantee that dvd or chekwa will stick if they don’t show the goods.
July 29th, 2012 at 11:10 pm
July 29th, 2012 at 11:15 pm
A real GM and a real coach….
It’s a great day for the Raiders.
ESPN was gushing all over Peyton Manning today.
I hope we kick his a…
Denver’s first game is against the Steelers.
We will see how he does.
July 29th, 2012 at 11:15 pm
t#5, They brought in scrubs.
July 29th, 2012 at 11:18 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
July 29th, 2012 at 10:59 pm
I think when you think about it ,we had good draft we prolly got 2-3 players who will be starting this year or next year
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it may be a very good draft.
bergstrom–looks to be a starter-type.
burris–i really like him. a playmaker. i think he will start either this year or next.
crawford–looked at his reel and he plays the run VERY well. very disciplined and gets off blockers and makes plays. needs work as a pass rusher. good potential. could be a starter.
criner–i was puzzled by the fact he fell. i know his 40 time wasn’t great but this dude produced in the pac-10, has great size and hands, and looks like a man among boys in highlights. a definite starter in the future.
bilukidi–yes he’s raw but what’s not to like. he’s big, strong, and athletic. this kid could rise quickly. may be a stud in the making.
stupar–i like him to stick and possibly start in the future. he’s pretty good.
July 29th, 2012 at 11:23 pm
Que Says:
July 29th, 2012 at 10:59 pm
I myself am worried with all the religious good boy being drafted.
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don’t be. religious guys aren’t pussi*s. they’re focused, disciplined, and stay out of trouble. they have commitment and aren’t punks. steve wisniewski, reggie white. and i believe vann mcelroy was a preacher’s kid.
July 29th, 2012 at 11:23 pm
tim tebow is tuff as nails.
July 29th, 2012 at 11:23 pm
A real GM and a real coach….
It’s a great day for the Raiders.
ESPN was gushing all over Peyton Manning today.
I hope we kick his a…
Denver’s first game is against the Steelers.
We will see how he does.
Hell Ya ……..I want the raiders to end that dude career. Should have never came to AFC west baby
July 29th, 2012 at 11:24 pm
Im with you Kirk on that. All this Denver talk and no ones played yet
July 29th, 2012 at 11:28 pm
Rob_raider Says:
July 29th, 2012 at 11:23 pm
Que Says:
July 29th, 2012 at 10:59 pm
I myself am worried with all the religious good boy being drafted.
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don’t be. religious guys aren’t pussi*s. they’re focused, disciplined, and stay out of trouble. they have commitment and aren’t punks. steve wisniewski, reggie white. and i believe vann mcelroy was a preacher’s kid.
This is football and the raiders legacy was never written on Religious beliefs. You didnt get drafted by the raiders being…That was my point to your original great point. It was something people noticed during the draft also. We drafted alot of good guys
July 29th, 2012 at 11:30 pm
Nice to see football back and the increased posts in here. Should be an interesting and hopefully fun year. All signs point to some great rookie WR pickups and that’s good news, Nation.
July 29th, 2012 at 11:32 pm
my pick for the best (soon-to-be) starting lineup:
veldheer-bergstrom-wiz-brisiel-barnes
palmer-schmitt-dmc (reece as a pass catcher only)
ausberry-dhb-moore (criner in 3 wr sets)
bryant-seymour-kelly-shaugnessy (houston playing up and down line)
burris-curry-stupar (mcclain in jail)
dvd-branch-huff-chekwa (bartell and spencer watching)
July 29th, 2012 at 11:32 pm
Thand God for miracles, big and small. AD has passed. Now finally the worshippers will quit sniveling and realize AD was out of his ever-lovin-mind for the past 10 yrs.
July 29th, 2012 at 11:33 pm
Go Raiders ..
July 29th, 2012 at 11:35 pm
Seymour rode up with the rookies last year on Saturday
July 29th, 2012 at 11:38 pm
Ok quit talking about A.D already and let the man rest in his peace .. We all know what happened and didnt happen ..He is a legend and he could have done some things different but the team and the image it has we’re following is because of him . I like much of RAider nation is looking forward to watching real management do it’s work with really nice D to watch .. Can’t wait but please quit rubbing it in his face very time let him RIP
July 29th, 2012 at 11:38 pm
Que Says:
July 29th, 2012 at 11:28 pm
Rob_raider Says:
July 29th, 2012 at 11:23 pm
Que Says:
July 29th, 2012 at 10:59 pm
I myself am worried with all the religious good boy being drafted.
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don’t be. religious guys aren’t pussi*s. they’re focused, disciplined, and stay out of trouble. they have commitment and aren’t punks. steve wisniewski, reggie white. and i believe vann mcelroy was a preacher’s kid.
This is football and the raiders legacy was never written on Religious beliefs. You didnt get drafted by the raiders being…That was my point to your original great point. It was something people noticed during the draft also. We drafted alot of good guys
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i know–i’m just saying religious guys aren’t weaklings. al davis’ raiders of old were all over the map. dave casper was religious. the key was those raiders got after it on gameday. napoleon kaufman was a preacher. it’s all about how hard u play. they said during games mcelroy would be cussing like a sailor out at safety. wiz was regularly said to be the dirtiest player in the game. u can be nasty as heck on sundays and then go to church. God loves football.
July 29th, 2012 at 11:39 pm
Go Raiders let’s surprise every 1
July 29th, 2012 at 11:46 pm
Steve Wiznewski Dirtiest Player year in and year out. Bible Thumpher. Lol.
July 29th, 2012 at 11:52 pm
I love my “Christan Brother”
July 30th, 2012 at 12:00 am
i think it’s important to look at the units of this team and see if they can be better than last year:
run game–well the OL will be similar but maybe a little better. brisiel for satele is a plus for sure. the continued growth of veldheer and wiz should make them a little better too. and of course, a full season of dmc. the run game should definitely be BETTER.
pass game–a full season from palmer, with a preseason to get ready. continued growth from dhb and moore and having them be solidly in place as starters, plus the addition of ausberry into the lineup should mean they will be BETTER.
run defense–the return of shaughnessy is big. possible growth from mcclain and curry into what their talents project plus real LB’s like wheeler, burris, and even stupar should mean they are BETTER although by how much is hugely dependent on mcclain.
pass defense–again, shaughnessy will help with his rush, and new CB’s could mean they’re BETTER.
so, it’s not wishful thinking by blind raiders fans. looking at their units shows that this team should be BETTER than last year.
July 30th, 2012 at 12:05 am
97. Only 10?
July 30th, 2012 at 12:18 am
So excited for the season to start!~
Have a gr8 day Nation! FOOTBALL!!!
http://www.raidernationstation.com/
July 30th, 2012 at 12:18 am
Beat the crap out of San Diego we’re so due for a easy win on opening night .
July 30th, 2012 at 12:20 am
^^^^ an
July 30th, 2012 at 12:46 am
DJ Johnny Says:
July 29th, 2012 at 9:50 pm
55.n8_austin Says:
July 29th, 2012 at 9:44 pm
Some people are acting like Seymour is the next coming of Warren Sapp. Relax, he’s gonna handle biz on that line.
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Problem is he hasn’t really handled biz yet as a Raider.
I give him credit for blocking those fg’s at Arrowhead though. He came up big that game.
The guy has been dominate in the leauge… if the Raiders have any shot the D-line gotta show and prove. By far the best part of our D… Linebacker and secondary are serious question marks.
July 30th, 2012 at 3:59 am
So we have a back that’s never made it a complete season and the head coach
intends to use him heavily in the preseason ?!?
Phone ringing… Cedric here – yo Reggie Mac – I’ve been expecting you…
July 30th, 2012 at 4:36 am
I dont know about you guys but I ll be more comfortable once we get a decent second string starting caliber RB. A big back at that.
July 30th, 2012 at 5:04 am
Good Morning Nation!
Ready for a whole new era of excellence? yupyup
July 30th, 2012 at 6:25 am
Not sure about this “new” era of excellence, I will just go for an era of excellence, new, old or what have you.
July 30th, 2012 at 6:31 am
No way would Al Davis ever approve a slogan change while he was alive. A “new era” of excellence would point to the last 10 to 20 years of non-excellence.
Now it’s Mark’s regime, and it’s time to adapt to new slogans. The old slogans have been beaten like a dead horse and no longer apply.
A new era of excellence is better than the “build a bully” campaign anyway.
July 30th, 2012 at 6:36 am
A new era of excellence is better than the “build a bully” campaign anyway.
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Please, don’t get me started on that nonsense again.
July 30th, 2012 at 6:40 am
U GOT 2 EARN IT.TALK AND CATCHY SLOGANS R JUST THAT,TALK.WIN,AND WIN CONSISTANTLY AND THEN START WITH CATCH PHRASES..
July 30th, 2012 at 6:48 am
It’s encouraging to hear about new coaching regime instilling discipline and everything. But I am worried that the whole concept of whipping the boys into shape may lead to some key early training camp injuries.
In a lot of ways, Allen reminds me of new Tampa coach Greg Schiano with his “toes on the line” policy. He’s already lost his starting LT, cut the team leading WR in TD’s from last year, lost Arrelius Benn to injury, traded away Brian Price who was their early 2nd round pick from 2 years ago for a conditional 7th rounder.
All to make a point that he’s a real hardcore type. He’s willing to sacrifice a lot of valuable pieces to mark his territory. Gone is the rap songs at practice and Raheem’s easy style. It’s hard to say if it will pay any dividends. I think you have to at some point allow the players to play and ease up.
The whole players coach vs disciplinarian coach thing seems to go in cycles. We have a task master in Allen, and that sounds good, but the other side of the coin is we can expect some guys run into the ground and some key injuries too.
July 30th, 2012 at 6:50 am
Disciplinarian’s definitely become stale, and it loses it’s edge after a few years.
If DA wants to be a tough-nosed coach, and also coach for more than 3-4 years here successfully, he will have to switch gears a little down the road.
July 30th, 2012 at 6:56 am
What also is a big change are the training camp rules that came with the new CBA. Gone are the two-a-days by rule, and so coaches are bringing in extra long 2 hour 45 minute practices and they are getting their pound of flesh in one fell swoop. The players wanted to do away with two-a-days, but they may have gotten more than were expecting in return.
July 30th, 2012 at 7:00 am
I liked Seymour’s common sense take to how he described the new regime. That they are all grown men and they should know how to act like professionals without being nagged and beaten down like children.
If the whip has to be used too often, I think it’s counter-productive at some point. It’s all a balance.
July 30th, 2012 at 7:06 am
115.guest123 Says:
July 30th, 2012 at 6:31 am
No way would Al Davis ever approve a slogan change while he was alive. A “new era” of excellence would point to the last 10 to 20 years of non-excellence.
Now it’s Mark’s regime, and it’s time to adapt to new slogans. The old slogans have been beaten like a dead horse and no longer apply.
A new era of excellence is better than the “build a bully” campaign anyway.
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I have a friend who’s a cowboy fan (other than THAT he’s an ok guy) and I was telling him that what we’ve just been through…the “Seven Years of Hell”….has been worst period in Raider history.
I also noted that even with that horrible period of time, since 1996 the Raiders have won 4 times as many playoff games as Dallas.
Gotta embrace the ‘new era’.
July 30th, 2012 at 7:09 am
Gone is the rap songs at practice…
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Good for Schiano. Rap is crap.
July 30th, 2012 at 7:11 am
Beat them down Dennis Allen! These dingle berries can use a little discipline! Rob Ryan tried pizza parties and Tom Cable tried choreographed dance lessons….forget that crap and grind them into the ground and let the survivors play!
July 30th, 2012 at 7:15 am
I disagree with removing the rap. So you don’t care for it, but the younger generation gets some sort of motivation for it. If it loosens them up and gets them ready to play fierce as well as builds comraderie, I’m all for the rap at practice. While I don’t listen to rap either, you got to let the young pups be pups. They got a lot of energy and they just need it channeled.
July 30th, 2012 at 7:17 am
I read things like accountability on being on time to meetings.
How is that beating them down?
I think there will be penalties for breaking rules like that up to being cut.
July 30th, 2012 at 7:17 am
Dakota Says:
July 30th, 2012 at 7:11 am
Beat them down Dennis Allen! These dingle berries can use a little discipline! Rob Ryan tried pizza parties and Tom Cable tried choreographed dance lessons….forget that crap and grind them into the ground and let the survivors play!
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LMAO@ dingle berries!
July 30th, 2012 at 7:17 am
I also disagree strongly with the idea of beating them down. We are already paper thin at so many positions going into the season. Once we get down to the cast of survivors left, we’ll be primed to be bottomfeeders on the way to a 2-14 season. But if if makes you happy that only the strong survived, I guess that’s your perrogative.
July 30th, 2012 at 7:18 am
Can the play classical or reggae???
July 30th, 2012 at 7:19 am
Dennis is going to get these DB’s playing ball, maybe Reg can offer his insight to our LB corp…
July 30th, 2012 at 7:19 am
Dennis Allen kind of referenced cutting guys if need be to send a message.
July 30th, 2012 at 7:21 am
I’m for the hip-hop beats being used (like instrumentals and stuff) to get the guys’ swagger going.
But we don’t need them not paying attention to what their doing, because they are rapping along with it, talking about getting high and making it rain and such.
July 30th, 2012 at 7:21 am
Time to make it happen DA. Go Raiders!
July 30th, 2012 at 7:22 am
Being on time for meetings and accountability are all proper and DA should accept no qualifiers to his rules. But the season is long and he’s got to be smart about how he pushes his guys. It’s a thin line between pushing a man to his limits and overextending the limits to a mode that causes danger of injury.
July 30th, 2012 at 7:27 am
All I can ask for out of RM and DA, is to put the best players on the field each week.
July 30th, 2012 at 7:27 am
If you are a lazy POS bringing the team down there is no longer a dark angel protecting you from above.
Now there is just a giant former player who will crap on your face if you open your mouth to biotch and complain.
LONG LIVE REGGIE!
July 30th, 2012 at 7:28 am
134. It sounds like he wants discipline, but im not hearing about him pushing too hard..
July 30th, 2012 at 7:28 am
what do you mean by “pushing his guys”?
I think the new CBA prevents things like that.
July 30th, 2012 at 7:29 am
You want to get drunk on the plane to away games? Al Davis was cool with it, but Reggie and Dennis will fk you up!
LONG LIVE REGGIE!
July 30th, 2012 at 7:30 am
C’mon now, we are just starting camp and already talking about lazy POS’s? It’s a bit early dontcha think? Let’s let DA determine that score.
July 30th, 2012 at 7:31 am
Predicting the first camp fight:
This is tough to do – there’s so many possibilities.
I’m gonna go with Houston vs. Bergstrom.
Lamar figures to be getting a little frustrated over possibly losing playing time to a returning Matt.S, a continually emerging Bryant, Tollefson, and the long looks guys like Crawford, Bilukidi, Ivey and others are likely to get.
Lamar is the type of guy that doesn’t hesitate to throw down.
Bergstrom has the mauler reputation and plenty to prove as the top draftee.
Look for Mr. Houston to win by TKO, get chastised by DA and interviewed by Romonowski.
Damn, I love football.
July 30th, 2012 at 7:31 am
140.guest123 Says:
July 30th, 2012 at 7:30 am
C’mon now, we are just starting camp and already talking about lazy POS’s? It’s a bit early dontcha think? Let’s let DA determine that score.
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9 straight years of missed playoffs and you don’t think we might have a few lazy POS on the team? You are kidding right?
July 30th, 2012 at 7:31 am
Reg still should have made Criner do 200 push-ups for his weekend blunder.lol
July 30th, 2012 at 7:32 am
NL West is up for grabs!!!!
July 30th, 2012 at 7:32 am
I think the new CBA prevents things like that.
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Not really. It eliminated two-a-days, but the one practice they have now is longer than a typical practice. Some coaches have said that it’s better for the players if they had two-a-days where they could put in the work in shorter segments and recover. But the players voted for the single practices in the new CBA.
July 30th, 2012 at 7:34 am
Whats up gentleman. Welcome to the New Era. What are some of your camp predictions (surprise players, surprise cuts, things of that nature)? I think, and I have no reason for this other than it just being a gut feeling, that Ed Wang will challenge Barnes for RT… He will probably be amongst the first cut now, but my prediction is made!
July 30th, 2012 at 7:35 am
9 straight years of missed playoffs and you don’t think we might have a few lazy POS on the team? You are kidding right?
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No doubt, but even the lazy ones can see the writing on the wall and wise up. Give them all a clean slate (except Slo) and let them foul up in front of DA. Let’s see who worked during the last 6 weeks and who got high and vacationed. It’s gonna be all apparent right there on the practice field. It’ll show like a sore thumb.
July 30th, 2012 at 7:36 am
There is still a heap of garbage left over from Al Davis that either needs to be thrown out, or needs to be recycled into professional players.
Branch
McClain
Barnes
Curry
Huff
Just to name a few.
Get it together and start producing or you are gone after this season once Reggie has some room to maneuver.
July 30th, 2012 at 7:36 am
My surprise prediction for camp is that Tony Bergstrom is going to usurp starting LG Cooper Carlisle, and possibly to an early retirement.
July 30th, 2012 at 7:37 am
Rob_raider Says:
July 29th, 2012 at 10:34 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
July 29th, 2012 at 9:44 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
July 29th, 2012 at 9:13 pm
Excuses Glenn….the dline is the main problem…..we dont have a NT…our UT is at LDE…Our RDE is really a LDE…our current NT is better served as a UT or LDE and our UT is a bum
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I don’t agree that everyone is out of position. The players that seem to be out of position are 55 and Mitchell. And I mean they are out of position when it comes to making a play. One point I will make is we need to go with an 8 man Dline rotation. I think we had 6 last year. Guys wore out midway through last season and that has happened the last few years.
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Yeah well you dont have to agree with fact…most dont in this world
Mitchell plays the run perfect…and if McClain had better DTs in front of him he would be alot better
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sorry but ur simply wrong here. mcclain is basically a punk. he likes to body slam little guys but he won’t get after guys his size or close to it. you need to record the games and rewatch plays over and over, watching individual players. it also helps to know the positions are supposed to be played. mcclain doesn’t fly to the ball and remain on the inside shoulder of the ball carrier. thomas howard used to do the same thing.
our DL is actually pretty good. seymour is a hall-of-famer. his penalties last year were stupid and he may be slowing down though. kelly is very good. makes a LOT of tackles for a DT. our LB’s have been horrendous for years. no discipline and no instinctiveness and no aggressive flying to the ball. mcclain is on the hot seat for a reason. he has shown flashes and he played much better in the 2nd half last season so there’s hope, but again, when ur a punk, ur weak in the face of equal competition. i’m not a believer. i hope he surprises me. curry has great athleticism and shows the willingness to actually go thru traffic and smack someone. he just may not have the greatest instincts. i’m hoping he improves. wheeler is a solid real LB. not great but a decent player. when i say “real LB’, i mean a guy who flies to the ball and shows ability to go thru traffic and keep his proper angle. we have had too many guys sitting back on their heels, like mcclain, or running way past their angle like howard used to. that’s why i really like burris. he shows a lot of playmaking instinct and desire. a real LB. and goethel playes like that too. not sure if he’ll be the same though. and don’t sleep on stupar. he’s nothing flashy but he plays the position properly. he played on an excellent defense at PSU and i wouldn’t be surprised to see him emerge eventually.
actually, chaz powell comes from that same PSU defense, as does crawford. they all may stick.
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I go to every game and see what you dont see Rob!….if you knew football then you know no MLB will play well with lackluster DTs. That is the main issue with McClain.Dont take no shot at me btch with your barely come posting ass! Comparing McClain and Howard shows how much of a fool you are.
Our Dline has been awful.Seymour is a HOF for his play in NE not here! You going off reputation and its sad. Kelly is one dimensional and needs to be cut. He hardly ever makes plays in the run game at or behind LOS.
LB play hasnt been good but DL is worse. First line of the defense is the DL…thats why the defense stinks.
McClain is much better than Kirk….a punk? Naw never…he slow at times and you basing on slamming the Rams guy one time as evidence he only hits smaller guys is lame….all of the fkin guys he tackles except TEs he is bigger than! You want him to let little guys do him bad?
July 30th, 2012 at 7:39 am
There are holdovers from the previous regime that are going to surprise and blossom under DA. And there will be some surprising mainstays who will see their careers end shortly. Of the list above, I think Branch, and Huff will take their games to new levels, while Curry, McClain, and Barnes are not on the 2013 roster. Reggie will find upgrades for all of them.
July 30th, 2012 at 7:40 am
Give them all a clean slate (except Slo)
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Ok….
Let’s offically kick this camp thing off, lol.
Why should 55 be the ONLY exception?
July 30th, 2012 at 7:42 am
148. Even branch?
July 30th, 2012 at 7:42 am
Branch just signed a long term contract, Dakota.
Doubt he’s gone next year under any scenario.
July 30th, 2012 at 7:43 am
152.
Sorry, I’m mixing in my anti-55 bias.
July 30th, 2012 at 7:43 am
My surprise prediction for camp is that Tony Bergstrom is going to usurp starting LG Cooper Carlisle
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Way to go out on a limb, bruh.
July 30th, 2012 at 7:45 am
What do you anti 55 guys need to see from him this season for you to think he’s living up to his draft status?
July 30th, 2012 at 7:47 am
I’m glad that basekball season is over. All the post NBA draft and trade talk was like sitting in on a women’s sewing circle. I was completely out of my element.
Back to NFL football!
July 30th, 2012 at 7:47 am
154.J Hill Says:
July 30th, 2012 at 7:42 am
Branch just signed a long term contract, Dakota.
Doubt he’s gone next year under any scenario.
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We shall see….if he keeps looking confused as the D gives up passing TDs and continues to fail to make any plays inside of 5 yards of the LOS, the new regime may very well admit their error and send him packing.
Branch may have some of you fooled, but he is still just an average safety in my book until he starts making an impact on games.
July 30th, 2012 at 7:47 am
I dont think any of the young guys earn starting roles.. Maybe thru injury..
July 30th, 2012 at 7:47 am
Rob_raider Says:
July 29th, 2012 at 10:43 pm
all of u cooper carlisle bashers don’t really know ur bizness. the man is a battler. he’s a ZBS guy. knows his angles and fights. he gets it done for the most part. and barnes is not bad either. the o-line is above average. not very much depth though.
the passing game should be very good this season. palmer has a chance to start from training camp. having 2 actual starters at wr and not 5 or 6 guys trying to be starters will help too. dhb and moore are the guys and they should have big years. i’m thinking 80/122/8 for dhb and 65/950/6 for moore. ford is a return man. he’ll see 25/350/1. it’s criner that will come up and get 45/650/8. streater and calhoun are development guys. ausberry could have a nice year too. something like 45/650/5.
the running game is top notch as long as dmc is healthy. goodson is perfect as a backup. he can handle 20 carries if needed, but if dmc is healthy, he won’t see much. jones should get 10 touches a game though. he’s light but he’s a big play waiting to happen.
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What? You dont know what the fk you are talking about! Stop posting please…you’re embarrassing yourself here! Carlisle is awful! He has got worse each year since 07. They are not gonna run the Tom Cable version of the ZBS….you need to talk to Raider Dell about this. Carlisle lacks the size and strength at 35 to be a starter in the NFL. He is soft and under 300 lbs. He got physically punked alot last year. No he doesnt get it done….watching him and Satele next to each other made me puke at the Coliseum. This is why we are all excited about Bergstrom because he is big,mean, strong and nasty at 6′6 313 lbs. See our guys now have athleticism to do ZBS but also have the means to show power when the field shortens.
DHB will only be starter for so long because he is abot to get ovetaken by that rookie by November. Ausberry? LOL hahahahahahahahaha I doubt he does all that. He got alot to learn about being a TE….Myers will start over him we dont go after Jeremy Shockey
July 30th, 2012 at 7:49 am
There is still a heap of garbage left over from Al Davis that either needs to be thrown out, or needs to be recycled into professional players.
Branch
McClain
Barnes
Curry
Huff
Just to name a few.
Get it together and start producing or you are gone after this season once Reggie has some room to maneuver.
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You sure you want Branch at the top of this list ?
Could be that Reggie signed Ty to a longterm deal just for cap reasons and to expand his maneuvering room, but I doubt it.
Agree with the rest of your list with the possible exception of Curry.
Curry might be a little light in the dura-matter department, but he’s probably the best banger and hardest hitter the defense has.
Branch will pop you too.
Got to have some guys willing to lay the lumber.
July 30th, 2012 at 7:49 am
157. They’ll need a defensive mvp award.lol
July 30th, 2012 at 7:50 am
J Hill Says:
July 30th, 2012 at 7:43 am
My surprise prediction for camp is that Tony Bergstrom is going to usurp starting LG Cooper Carlisle
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Way to go out on a limb, bruh.
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LOL…but I’m with him though….we dont wanna see Carlisle start. 35 and switching sides with limited strength is not encouraging for most of us. Out with old and in with the new
Bigger surprise is someone beating out Barnes sorry ass for RT
July 30th, 2012 at 7:51 am
What do you anti 55 guys need to see from him this season for you to think he’s living up to his draft status?
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One: He needs to play smarter, stop jogging after ball carriers, play his correct gap, be more aggressive in tackling, not take plays or series off.
Two: He needs to show some humility that he’s not this all world LB that he acts like. He comes off as a superstar type with no play to back up that act. He’s got the “airs” around the the fans and media.
D!ckhead all the way around. He’s done nothing to win the graces of the Nation.
July 30th, 2012 at 7:52 am
You sure you want Branch at the top of this list ?
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That was in no particular order….Branch would be the last of that bunch that I would expect to wash out after this season….but the possibility is still there.
July 30th, 2012 at 7:52 am
Seymour Bush Says:
July 29th, 2012 at 10:46 pm
Wow one play….next
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Uh, last time I looked the Raider defense was giving up 5+ yards per rush. That’s more than one play.
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Dline lol….keep running into the trap
July 30th, 2012 at 7:53 am
I can normally count on branch to make tackles.. Thats more than I can say for alot if our past safeties. Plus he can blitz.
July 30th, 2012 at 7:54 am
157.J Hill Says:
July 30th, 2012 at 7:45 am
What do you anti 55 guys need to see from him this season for you to think he’s living up to his draft status?
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I want to see him accurately diagnosing run plays and filling the right holes. I want to see plays in the backfield. I DON’T want to see him jogging down the field after RB’s
July 30th, 2012 at 7:54 am
KoolKell Says:
July 29th, 2012 at 10:51 pm
The Raider DT’s were not asked to stop the Run.
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That is first part of job description for DTs…Kell you know you are wrong!
We ran same defense as 2000-2002…did our DTs stop run?
July 30th, 2012 at 7:55 am
McClain also suplexed Dustin Keller a te, so don’t know why so many haters talk schhhitt about him picking on lil players….. , this his last yr to prove him self, yr 3. So far dhb, Dmac have turned it around so I have faith in Romac.
July 30th, 2012 at 7:55 am
Suprise training camp development #2,
On defense, Chimdi Chekwa seizes the starting CB spot opposite of Ron Bartell in a big way. Shawntae Spencer is beaten out of the spot so badly, he’s cut from the team.
Yeah, yeah, I know what you are thinking…
Way to go out on a limb…
lol
July 30th, 2012 at 7:55 am
That was in no particular order….Branch would be the last of that bunch that I would expect to wash out after this season….but the possibility is still there.
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Technically Curry is NOT part of the AD era, since Hue traded for him in the days after Al’s passing.
July 30th, 2012 at 7:55 am
Marks Hair Says:
July 30th, 2012 at 7:47 am
I dont think any of the young guys earn starting roles.. Maybe thru injury..
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And why is that?
July 30th, 2012 at 7:56 am
I am gonna go WAY out on a limb here… Carson Palmer will secure the starting QB spot early on in camp.
July 30th, 2012 at 7:56 am
Branch, Bartell, Burris, Kilgore and Stupar should be very sound tacklers imo.
July 30th, 2012 at 7:57 am
MCClain surely needs to play to a higher level and Curry needs coverage work but let them have an actual stout dline and their play vastly improves
Curry is moving to SLB which will suit him better
July 30th, 2012 at 7:57 am
173.bcz24 Says:
July 30th, 2012 at 7:55 am
That was in no particular order….Branch would be the last of that bunch that I would expect to wash out after this season….but the possibility is still there.
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Technically Curry is NOT part of the AD era, since Hue traded for him in the days after Al’s passing.
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Well, they said that was in the works under Al….I am putting it on Al, since dead men tell no tales!
July 30th, 2012 at 7:57 am
Carlisle lacks the size and strength at 35 to be a starter in the NFL. He is soft and under 300 lbs. He got physically punked alot last year. No he doesnt get it done….watching him and Satele next to each other made me puke at the Coliseum. This is why we are all excited about Bergstrom because he is big,mean, strong and nasty at 6′6 313 lbs. See our guys now have athleticism to do ZBS but also have the means to show power when the field shortens.
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On point!
July 30th, 2012 at 7:57 am
Bcz24 Says:
July 30th, 2012 at 7:56 am
I am gonna go WAY out on a limb here… Carson Palmer will secure the starting QB spot early on in camp.
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And Dmac secures RB spot
July 30th, 2012 at 7:58 am
Raider fans like their players humble..
Of course its a gladiator type spectator sport where players sacrifice their bodies and brains 4 stardom….
July 30th, 2012 at 7:59 am
I am gonna go WAY out on a limb here… Carson Palmer will secure the starting QB spot early on in camp.
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lol
Actually that’s a pretty big deal. If you look at Seattle who has 3 QB’s that are all battling for the starting spot or Cleveland or Miami. Those are all teams that don’t have a QB….. If you have more than one, then you don’t have any.
July 30th, 2012 at 7:59 am
I’m picking Bergstrom>CC, Chekwa>Bartell and maybe Burris>Curry(depending on his knees)
July 30th, 2012 at 7:59 am
Seymour Kelly Ivey ShoNasty
Curry 55 Wheeler/Burris
DVD Bartell
Huff Branch
Let’s get at it!!!!!!
July 30th, 2012 at 8:00 am
Guest123 Says:
July 30th, 2012 at 7:55 am
Suprise training camp development #2,
On defense, Chimdi Chekwa seizes the starting CB spot opposite of Ron Bartell in a big way. Shawntae Spencer is beaten out of the spot so badly, he’s cut from the team.
Yeah, yeah, I know what you are thinking…
Way to go out on a limb…
lol
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Actually I think Chekwa and Bartell will eventually be the starters
Spencer deserves to be axed with his weird country ass…..DVD I guess by default is the nickel back
July 30th, 2012 at 8:00 am
OOOps I meant Chekwa>spencer
July 30th, 2012 at 8:01 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
TC in less than an hour! Home with a slight shoulder injury myself, but its all good!
B, how about them A’s! Kinda sad they couldn’t complete the sweep. What’s going on this Saturday?
Also, not sure about Dallas game now! We may pass!
July 30th, 2012 at 8:01 am
Burris will not start over Curry…Curry is SLB not WLB…Burris and Wheeler will battle for WLB
July 30th, 2012 at 8:02 am
Humility is warranted when your play describes the effort and outcome. If #55 was the second coming of Patrick Willis, then the gun toting incidents and media and fan attitude would be forgiven. But play like a chump and then act like a chump and you’re given the cold shoulder. Make sense?
July 30th, 2012 at 8:02 am
Carlisle is great for depth, he is undersized but I think he holds his own at times a better run blocker than pass protection. Whats up with barksdale can he make some noise this yr????
July 30th, 2012 at 8:02 am
Bigger surprise is someone beating out Barnes sorry ass for RT
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If Barnes is sorry, why would it be a surprise?
July 30th, 2012 at 8:02 am
I’m hoping Burris can learn to play the inside as well, with his instincts, just in case they need him.
July 30th, 2012 at 8:03 am
Good Morning Hwnrdr! Hope you feel better soon.
July 30th, 2012 at 8:03 am
180.Method To My Madness Says:
And Dmac secures RB spot
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Hey B if you hit on predictions like that you should play the lottery… just sayin’
LOL
July 30th, 2012 at 8:03 am
174. I dont see a rook with the skills to compete with our vets. Maybe bergs steps up later in the yr.. but he’ll probably get his chance after coop gets hurt.
July 30th, 2012 at 8:03 am
Hwnrdr Says:
July 30th, 2012 at 8:01 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
TC in less than an hour! Home with a slight shoulder injury myself, but its all good!
B, how about them A’s! Kinda sad they couldn’t complete the sweep. What’s going on this Saturday?
Also, not sure about Dallas game now! We may pass!
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Still suppose to be on from what I know
Yeah I feel ya on Dallas game….may be in same boat myself big dawg
A’s on fiya….leading wildcard race and only 4.5 back….Texas and Anaheim play these next few game vs each other….we playing Rays….should be fun
July 30th, 2012 at 8:04 am
J Hill Says:
July 30th, 2012 at 8:02 am
Bigger surprise is someone beating out Barnes sorry ass for RT
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If Barnes is sorry, why would it be a surprise?
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Seth Wand and Joe Barksdale is why
July 30th, 2012 at 8:05 am
Bcz24 Says:
July 30th, 2012 at 8:03 am
180.Method To My Madness Says:
And Dmac secures RB spot
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Hey B if you hit on predictions like that you should play the lottery… just sayin’
LOL
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HAHA drinks for us all then!
July 30th, 2012 at 8:05 am
188,
I definitely can see Burris at SLB, taking advantage of his lateral quicks. Curry is a one-trick dog with fleas, and another of the posssible “surprise cuts”.
July 30th, 2012 at 8:05 am
Ok cool! Let me know!
We got The Rays, Blue Jays and Angels next! If the A’s can come out of that winning each series, things will be looking good!
July 30th, 2012 at 8:06 am
One: He needs to play smarter, stop jogging after ball carriers, play his correct gap, be more aggressive in tackling, not take plays or series off.
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How are you going to determine that?
Stats?
For example, he had a REALLY good game against Det overall, but whiffed on Stafford which would have sealed the game.
If he makes that ONE play and actually sends us to the playoffs, are we having this conversation?
July 30th, 2012 at 8:07 am
Thanks Guest! Had tendonitis in the left shoulder, took a cortisone shot, which we all know as temporary and it inflamed hard this last week! Had to up my dosages! Need to check in the dr’s office today to see if anything changes!
July 30th, 2012 at 8:08 am
If he makes that ONE play and actually sends us to the playoffs, are we having this conversation?
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Football is a game of 60 minutes, not 59. Gotta play fierce till the final whistle and it’s not fair, but you are judged ultimately not by your victories, but your failures.
July 30th, 2012 at 8:09 am
Marks Hair Says:
July 30th, 2012 at 8:03 am
174. I dont see a rook with the skills to compete with our vets. Maybe bergs steps up later in the yr.. but he’ll probably get his chance after coop gets hurt.
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Criner has poss WR skills while DHB doesnt….he catches with his hands…DHB doesnt
Bergstrom has size,strength and nasty demeanor necessary to play LG while Cooper doesnt. Coop get hurt? When has that happened here? They drafted Bergstrom to start…its only a matter of time
Burris will compete with Wheeler for that WLB spot
Remember this is new regime and the old way is out. If a guy is better rookie or not then he will start
July 30th, 2012 at 8:09 am
@ 202,
Trust Dr. Feelgood to get you thru. And a lot of rest.
July 30th, 2012 at 8:10 am
I want to see him accurately diagnosing run plays and filling the right holes. I want to see plays in the backfield. I DON’T want to see him jogging down the field after RB’s
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plural???
“The Jog” against Buffalo = 1 play.
Is there a percentage of plays he allowed to misdiagnos that doesn’t get him cut?
He had a lot of tackles last year so clearly he is out there accurately diagnosing something, wouldn’t you say?
July 30th, 2012 at 8:10 am
Guest123 Says:
July 30th, 2012 at 8:09 am
@ 202,
Trust Dr. Feelgood to get you thru. And a lot of rest.
Yup! That I will!
July 30th, 2012 at 8:10 am
Guest123 Says:
July 30th, 2012 at 8:05 am
188,
I definitely can see Burris at SLB, taking advantage of his lateral quicks. Curry is a one-trick dog with fleas, and another of the posssible “surprise cuts”.
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He playing WLB/LOLB
July 30th, 2012 at 8:10 am
189. Oh.. Well someone needs to hang a graph in the lockeroom so they know exactly how good they have to be before they can get uppety.lol I gotta disagree, I don’t believe any of our players should have humble themselves for the blog.. but I do agree that romac have been an idiot..
July 30th, 2012 at 8:11 am
Be right back fellas!
July 30th, 2012 at 8:11 am
I disagree that Wheeler is in jeapardy of losing his WLB job to anyone. I think he’s the mainstay at LB. But the SLB and MLB spots are up for grabs. Wheeler will do the Nation proud!
July 30th, 2012 at 8:12 am
Hwnrdr Says:
July 30th, 2012 at 8:05 am
Ok cool! Let me know!
We got The Rays, Blue Jays and Angels next! If the A’s can come out of that winning each series, things will be looking good!
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Oh yeah…if at end of next month we catch Texas….its a wrap the A’s will be in postseason
July 30th, 2012 at 8:12 am
Quote for Today…
“If you don’t like something, change it. If you can’t change it, change your attitude. Don’t complain.”
― Maya Angelou
July 30th, 2012 at 8:14 am
What do you anti 55 guys need to see from him this season for you to think he’s living up to his draft status?
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Well, to start with, this ‘clean slate’ stuff is a bunch of crap.
Ronaldo’s luggage hasn’t been discarded and wasn’t lost at the Bama airport.
You can say he’s got a clean slate as far as Reggie and DA are concerned – but the legal system, courts and Goodell are another matter.
That hangs over Ro-do-do’s head and there’s no wiping that slate clean until the courts and commish have their say.
On the field 55 has to quit jogging. Can’t whiff on easy, game deciding tackles. Has to assume a position of leadership, instead of being the brooding douche that deserts the team (for an entire week) to attend a (ahem) funeral.
McLame has miles to go to live up to his 8th overall status. I’d settle for him managing to stay out of trouble and on the field.
Course, if his play doesn’t improve, having him on the field isn’t a big deal anyway.
July 30th, 2012 at 8:14 am
Guest123 Says:
July 30th, 2012 at 8:11 am
I disagree that Wheeler is in jeapardy of losing his WLB job to anyone. I think he’s the mainstay at LB. But the SLB and MLB spots are up for grabs. Wheeler will do the Nation proud!
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SLB and MLB are locked for Curry and McClain lmao….come on man
If Burris wants to start it will be at WLB
July 30th, 2012 at 8:15 am
Good quote.
If people followed that advice more often, there would be a 50% drop in all conversation I’m guessing.
July 30th, 2012 at 8:16 am
Oh.. Well someone needs to hang a graph in the lockeroom so they know exactly how good they have to be before they can get uppety.
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LMFAO!
July 30th, 2012 at 8:18 am
204. We’ll find out pretty soon.. Its finally football time
Criner wont beat dhb… No way
Burris wont beat wheeler.. No way
Bergs definitely have the best shot of winning the job. Size, experience in the zbs, & strenght make him a possibility but carlisle has kept a starting job for years n years for good reason. ..Skills
July 30th, 2012 at 8:18 am
215, Especially considering Roger Goodell has a world of influence on whether or not #55 is the starter at MLB, and how weak Curry is at his spot, I don’t think either are any kind of “lock”. Wheeler is a (barring injury) set-it-in-concrete lock starter though.
July 30th, 2012 at 8:19 am
I disagree that Wheeler is in jeapardy of losing his WLB job to anyone.
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When did he win the job?
Isn’t he basically a one year low salary vet signing?
July 30th, 2012 at 8:19 am
He had a lot of tackles last year so clearly he is out there accurately diagnosing something, wouldn’t you say?
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No. Accurately diagnosing a play means he made the tackle behind the LOS or at least near. Making the tackle 7 yards down field is not accurately diagnosing the play.
July 30th, 2012 at 8:27 am
Wonder is Wheeler can play SS, so we could ditch MM34..
July 30th, 2012 at 8:28 am
new post
July 30th, 2012 at 8:37 am
LMAO at the ‘once’ defense.
Hey, McLame only jogged ‘once’.
He only whiffed ‘once’ on an easy, game sealing tackle.
He only got arrested ‘once’.
Wouldn’t it be nice to have a MLB that we can count on and have the defense make a stop, for ‘ONCE’ ?
‘Once’ upon a time we had great expectations for Ronaldo.
‘Once’ upon a time is also how alot of fairy tales begin.
July 30th, 2012 at 9:59 am
As an ex Loyalist i agree if your on time for dinner, your never usually late for anything else. Im confident this new regime will stop the penalty madness you can just feel it in their words
July 30th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
guest123 Says:
July 30th, 2012 at 6:48 am
It’s encouraging to hear about new coaching regime instilling discipline and everything. But I am worried that the whole concept of whipping the boys into shape may lead to some key early training camp injuries.
In a lot of ways, Allen reminds me of new Tampa coach Greg Schiano with his “toes on the line” policy. He’s already lost his starting LT, cut the team leading WR in TD’s from last year, lost Arrelius Benn to injury, traded away Brian Price who was their early 2nd round pick from 2 years ago for a conditional 7th rounder.
All to make a point that he’s a real hardcore type. He’s willing to sacrifice a lot of valuable pieces to mark his territory. Gone is the rap songs at practice and Raheem’s easy style. It’s hard to say if it will pay any dividends. I think you have to at some point allow the players to play and ease up.
The whole players coach vs disciplinarian coach thing seems to go in cycles. We have a task master in Allen, and that sounds good, but the other side of the coin is we can expect some guys run into the ground and some key injuries too.
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Of course, the coaches have to ease off after awhile. That’s why you need a few guys in the locker room to step up and become the de facto enforcers. They set parameters that the rest of the team implicitly understands you don’t cross. Maybe Seymour can be that guy.
July 30th, 2012 at 6:57 pm
[...] Steve Corkran has an article about the Raiders’ veterans discussing the change surrounding the team. [...]
July 30th, 2012 at 9:29 pm
Regarding the Post below:
I just can not agree with it for the following reasons…
Reggie M. was a LB with the LA Raiders and understands and honors the Raiders traditions and mystique. However, he also understands no one can run an organization like AD did and survive AD tried to do too many things.
Mark Davis in taking over asked for the advice of former Raiders like Ron Wolf and John Madden in picking RM and is the son of AD!
There has been an openness with former players even ones not allowed to be around such as Rich Gannon to discuss what it means to be a Raider.
I just do not understand your point unless you literally believe the Raiders were AD and only AD can channel the Raiders. AD considering all the people he influenced should have quite the legacy!
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Rob_raider Says:
July 29th, 2012 at 7:49 pm
there’s almost a guarantee of culture change. al davis is dead. many of the people involved with the raiders are gone. there are new people at owner, gm, and the coaching staff. it’s practically just another organization, with little ties to the raiders as we’ve always known (and loved) them. in fact, it’s the time to go to another team if u want to, because this is frankly a “raiders” team in name and uniform color only. many of the players return and they might bring with them old habits, but calling this team the raiders is barely more accurate than calling jon gruden’s buccaneers team the raiders. i will continue to be raiders fan b/c it’s what i know. but i’m not sure it will ever be the same.
are the yankees the same yankees that had ruth, gherig, dimaggio, etc? kinda makes u wonder who ur really rooting for. mark davis, reggie mckenzie, and dennis allen? why do i care? it’s basically the uniforms and the memories the fact they’re in oakland.