Live now: Raiders chat with Steve Corkran at noon
By Jon Becker
Thursday, August 2nd, 2012 at 12:09 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Bay Area News Group writer Steve Corkran will take questions and provide insight on the Oakland Raiders, Thursday at noon.
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August 2nd, 2012 at 12:13 pm
Raiders
August 2nd, 2012 at 12:16 pm
Weeeee! 2nd???
August 2nd, 2012 at 12:22 pm
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/02/matt-ryan-knows-he-needs-to-win-in-playoffs/
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People who criticize Matt Ryan for not winning in the playoffs are being way too kind to the guy. It’d be one thing if the Falcons’ offense could even put up a fight in the palyoffs. But Ryan just gets so outclassed in those games. The guy looks like a 10th grader out there. That team is so stacked on offense that he should be taking a hell of a lot more heat than he is. I swear, put a #2 on Chris Redman and nobody would know the difference. Hell, they might even win a playoff game.
August 2nd, 2012 at 12:25 pm
This new chat format absolutely SUCKS…..
August 2nd, 2012 at 12:26 pm
MikieG Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 12:25 pm
This new chat format absolutely SUCKS…..
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Sucks more than the old chat??
August 2nd, 2012 at 12:28 pm
Yo, online chats are for super dweebs
Straight up
The Beeeech Diggity prefers to kick back with a few wasted hizzies, get the Beeeech Lawg pleasured and do some chill recreational blogging
Gotta represt the PMPP, word, in FULL effect
Yo, more Rasta Ganja jams coming your way, just gotta bust this nut and smoke da kind reefer, MON
JAMAICA STYLE ALL UP IN DAT
August 2nd, 2012 at 12:36 pm
If anyone’s having issues with the formatting, here’s a link to the correctly-formatted chat:
http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_21218299/live-chat-oakland-raiders-thursday-at-noon
August 2nd, 2012 at 12:40 pm
Peemore Bust, you gotta be feeling good about jumping on Nob Raider’s minion ship right before I sunk it, huh?
In typical Bust fashion, your timing couldn’t have been worse
Anyway, I’m sure its not the last time you’ll be at the receiving end of a Beeeech Diggity Official Smackdown while trying to snuggle up to a fellow blog goober
HOLLA DOWN THE 405, AIN’T NO JIVE
August 2nd, 2012 at 12:46 pm
Lets go Raiders
August 2nd, 2012 at 12:49 pm
Chats bore me..
August 2nd, 2012 at 12:49 pm
I love all the access we’re getting this year. It feels like we have a real team.
August 2nd, 2012 at 12:51 pm
Zzzzzz
August 2nd, 2012 at 12:52 pm
someone ask him if he’s ever seen a raiderette naked
August 2nd, 2012 at 12:59 pm
someone ask him if he’s ever seen a raiderette naked
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I just asked him on your behalf, MH
August 2nd, 2012 at 1:00 pm
Yo…
August 2nd, 2012 at 1:03 pm
Raids make the front page on MSN
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/oakland-raiders-carson-palmer-dennis-allen-reggie-mckenzie-reason-for-hope-080212
August 2nd, 2012 at 1:05 pm
nice read, thanks Thec!
August 2nd, 2012 at 1:05 pm
Live Chat finished.
August 2nd, 2012 at 1:06 pm
didnt answer not even one of my questions.. grrr
August 2nd, 2012 at 1:06 pm
14. He never answers the good questions
August 2nd, 2012 at 1:07 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 1:05 pm
nice read, thanks Thec!
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1 NATION
August 2nd, 2012 at 1:07 pm
didnt answer not even one of my questions.. grrr
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sometimes you gotta pitch underhand, if you want somebody to hit a homerun!
August 2nd, 2012 at 1:07 pm
i asked him who or what position he sees us drafting next year if we get a high draft pick.. no answer.
then i ask him how much he sees us winning on the road this year due to a terrible road schedule.. no answer.
whatever cork…
August 2nd, 2012 at 1:08 pm
I think Steve answered 3 of my 6 questions.
I’m satisfied with that!
August 2nd, 2012 at 1:09 pm
oh but he will answer a retarded question like,”who will be our starting left tackle this season?????
August 2nd, 2012 at 1:10 pm
oh but he will answer a retarded question like,”who will be our starting left tackle this season?????
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dont think that was really asked but you catch my drift..
August 2nd, 2012 at 1:10 pm
he will answer a retarded question like,”who will be our starting left tackle this season?????
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somebody thinks Barksdale could beat out Veldheer?
Ouch!
August 2nd, 2012 at 1:11 pm
i wonder who we target if we end up with a high draft choice.. its an intruiging thought, now that we wont be going after the fastest track star..
August 2nd, 2012 at 1:12 pm
Steve is the Man. I’m not a huge fan of the live chat (because of the stupid questions), but I think Steve does a great job with it. I’m a huge fan of his TC tweets. I think he is better than Vic and Paul G.
August 2nd, 2012 at 1:13 pm
Dominique Hamilton….I was curious after the chat, Bet Meth will like him.
Overview
Hamilton is a solid player who has incredible size for an interior lineman and has been durable throughout his time at Mizzou. A non-athletic mover, Hamilton doesn’t have quite the strength to play nose in a 3-4 base defense, but he could fill a similar role in a 4-3 and help to clog up the interior for an NFL defense. He is slow off the ball and not much of a factor against the pass, but teams will likely feel enticed to take him in the late rounds given his production in college and size for the position.
Strengths
Hamilton is good against the run to defeat single blocks and make a play on the ball. He has a fire in his play that is obvious when defending the run. He can defeat single blocks with ease and is good to flow toward plays away from him and continue to be a factor even when the play is not right in his gap. He tackles chest-high but is big enough to engulf smaller runners. Hamilton has developed his hand technique over the years and has shown the ability to play with good technique, albeit inconsistently.
Weaknesses
Hamilton is a very slow mover who takes a while to labor off the ball once it’s snapped. He doesn’t play instinctively and could struggle against double teams at the next level. NFL teams will want to give just enough help from another interior lineman to seal him and he could be entirely eliminated from the play. He is a non-factor against the pass; NFL offenses will love to just slightly double him against the run and forget about him entirely on passing downs, he needs to be more of a factor and consistent player against the pass to be a three-down lineman.
http://m.nfl.com/combine/profile/2533014/dominique-hamilton/
August 2nd, 2012 at 1:14 pm
One thing you can bank on is this team is going to be in better condition than all the prior Raider teams. That seemed to be a problem late in games and late in the season. Right there is a night and day difference between MCKenzie/Allen and those that came before.
August 2nd, 2012 at 1:16 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 1:13 pm
Dominique Hamilton….I was curious after the chat, Bet Meth will like him.
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A slow mover who doesn’t play the pass particularly well. In a passing league that plays very very fast that is strike one and strike two against him.
August 2nd, 2012 at 1:18 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 12:22 pm
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/02/matt-ryan-knows-he-needs-to-win-in-playoffs/
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People who criticize Matt Ryan for not winning in the playoffs are being way too kind to the guy. It’d be one thing if the Falcons’ offense could even put up a fight in the palyoffs. But Ryan just gets so outclassed in those games. The guy looks like a 10th grader out there. That team is so stacked on offense that he should be taking a hell of a lot more heat than he is. I swear, put a #2 on Chris Redman and nobody would know the difference. Hell, they might even win a playoff game.
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Redman REALLY isn’t very good dude.
August 2nd, 2012 at 1:19 pm
Only total ‘Tards like Peemore Bust and Nob Raider participate in online chats
Maybe it’s because they are “Actual Cool Guys” (no seriously – Nob really called himself that)
Real Brohams just chill in the comments section and smoke mad doobies, while ladies pay extra attention to our full-mast weiners
Yo, I guess that’s why they call it the blues
RASTA GANJA JAMAICAN STYLE MON
August 2nd, 2012 at 1:22 pm
@Dutch
I’m rooting for Podunker Dom Hamilton !!
August 2nd, 2012 at 1:27 pm
32.Seymour Bush Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 1:16 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 1:13 pm
Dominique Hamilton….I was curious after the chat, Bet Meth will like him.
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A slow mover who doesn’t play the pass particularly well. In a passing league that plays very very fast that is strike one and strike two against him.
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Q. Besides Streater any other un drafted players showing promise?
A. Dominique Hamilton comes to mind. Impressive player.
Cannot imagine that Cork would point to Hamilton as an impressive player if he was slow off the ball…
August 2nd, 2012 at 1:31 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 1:14 pm
One thing you can bank on is this team is going to be in better condition than all the prior Raider teams. That seemed to be a problem late in games and late in the season. Right there is a night and day difference between MCKenzie/Allen and those that came before.
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Truth…Everyone had to come in at a certain weight.
August 2nd, 2012 at 1:31 pm
Cannot imagine that Cork would point to Hamilton as an impressive player if he was slow off the ball…
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No one is rooting for some Dline help more than I am. I think we need to have an 8 deep rotation the way Philly and some other teams do. But one or two good practices are not enough. TK likes Hamilton tho.
August 2nd, 2012 at 1:31 pm
RR
Nice request to Cork to bring back JLH!!lol
August 2nd, 2012 at 1:32 pm
TxRaider210 Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 1:31 pm
RR
Nice request to Cork to bring back JLH!!lol
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RR <—higgs long lost agent
August 2nd, 2012 at 1:35 pm
LOL Thec
August 2nd, 2012 at 1:36 pm
Glad to hear DVD added 10lbs, that was my main question for Cork.
August 2nd, 2012 at 1:36 pm
J-Raider Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 1:11 pm
i wonder who we target if we end up with a high draft choice.. its an intruiging thought, now that we wont be going after the fastest track star..
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Don’t know of many people who think about next years draft picks, 3 days into training camp.
August 2nd, 2012 at 1:38 pm
The Romney’s dancing horse came in at 13th.
August 2nd, 2012 at 1:40 pm
KrappyRat, looking forward to that free pass to Raider practice tomorrow?
That should be pretty cool when you run into Brian the Genital face-to-face, huh
August 2nd, 2012 at 1:42 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 1:40 pm
KrappyRat, looking forward to that free pass to Raider practice tomorrow?
That should be pretty cool when you run into Brian the Genital face-to-face, huh
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Get a life, Handfkr.
August 2nd, 2012 at 1:50 pm
ever notice cork only answers questions that he’s already answered in his posts or tweets?
August 2nd, 2012 at 1:50 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 1:18 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 12:22 pm
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/02/matt-ryan-knows-he-needs-to-win-in-playoffs/
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People who criticize Matt Ryan for not winning in the playoffs are being way too kind to the guy. It’d be one thing if the Falcons’ offense could even put up a fight in the palyoffs. But Ryan just gets so outclassed in those games. The guy looks like a 10th grader out there. That team is so stacked on offense that he should be taking a hell of a lot more heat than he is. I swear, put a #2 on Chris Redman and nobody would know the difference. Hell, they might even win a playoff game.
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Redman REALLY isn’t very good dude.
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Kinda my point.
August 2nd, 2012 at 1:51 pm
Geez, calm down old Troll
Just wanted to know if you’re scared of seeing Brian the Genital in person tomorrow
You know how he’s called you at the office, promised to beat you up, etc.
Or maybe you plan on throwing a classic 1920’s roundhouse that you learned in the Navy
That would be sweet
August 2nd, 2012 at 1:55 pm
Glad to hear DVD added 10lbs, that was my main question for Cork.
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Didn’t hear that. Good man, good to hear.
August 2nd, 2012 at 1:58 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 1:51 pm
Geez, calm down old Troll
Just wanted to know if you’re scared of seeing Brian the Genital in person tomorrow
You know how he’s called you at the office, promised to beat you up, etc.
Or maybe you plan on throwing a classic 1920’s roundhouse that you learned in the Navy
That would be sweet
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Get a life of your own, Handfkr
August 2nd, 2012 at 1:59 pm
New chat format sucks balls.
August 2nd, 2012 at 2:00 pm
Cant read it. Words go off the screen.
August 2nd, 2012 at 2:00 pm
“Win games,” Palmer said when asked about the naysayers. “It’s not about statistics. It’s about winning games. That’s what we’re going to do this year.”
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No one gives Palmer more heat in here than me, but it sounds here like he gets it now.
August 2nd, 2012 at 2:02 pm
Michael Irvin says the Super bowl trophy’s name should be changed to the Lombardi/Bellichek…. really?….
BWWWAAAAAAAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAH!!!!!!!
AAAAHHHHHHH…… BWWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
August 2nd, 2012 at 2:03 pm
… and the trophy for the World Series should be named for Pete Rose..
August 2nd, 2012 at 2:03 pm
Raider Riff Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 2:00 pm
Cant read it. Words go off the screen.
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The new format was at the Contra Costa Times, today.
August 2nd, 2012 at 2:04 pm
Riff,
Did you read my post about being taxed abroad?
August 2nd, 2012 at 2:06 pm
Raider Riff Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 1:59 pm
New chat format sucks balls.
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agreed
August 2nd, 2012 at 2:08 pm
Riff,
I know this for a fact. I used to live/ work abroad in 05 & 06.
It’s a way to avoid double taxation on your income (less than $91400). The only thing I was wrong about is the amount.
“First, an individual who is a bona fide resident of a foreign country or is physically outside the United States for an extended time is entitled to an exclusion (exemption) of part or all of their earned income (i.e. personal service income, as distinguished from income from capital or investments.) That exemption is $91,400 for 2009, pro-rated.[5] (See IRS form 2555.)
Second, the United States allows a foreign tax credit by which income taxes paid to foreign countries can be offset against U.S. income tax liability attributable to foreign income. This can be a complex issue that often requires the services of a tax advisor. The foreign tax credit is not allowed for taxes paid on earned income that is excluded under the rules described in the preceding paragraph (i.e. no double dipping).” wiki
August 2nd, 2012 at 2:11 pm
Is there practice today or a day off?
August 2nd, 2012 at 2:13 pm
PlunkforHOF Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 2:11 pm
Is there practice today or a day off?
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“Real Raider Fans” know the practice schedule. Lol.
August 2nd, 2012 at 2:16 pm
And yet you continue to wonder why EVERYONE here considers you a raving d!ckhead.
August 2nd, 2012 at 2:17 pm
KK Munster, laughing at your own jokes?
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KoolKell Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 2:13 pm
“Real Raider Fans” know the practice schedule. Lol.
August 2nd, 2012 at 2:18 pm
PlunkforHOF Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 2:16 pm
And yet you continue to wonder why EVERYONE here considers you a raving d!ckhead.
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Not everyone. Hehehe.
August 2nd, 2012 at 2:19 pm
I was not including you.
August 2nd, 2012 at 2:19 pm
Or his alias’s
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PlunkforHOF Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 2:19 pm
I was not including you.
August 2nd, 2012 at 2:20 pm
KK Munster, you didn’t build that barbershop floor sweeping business. Someone else did that!
August 2nd, 2012 at 2:21 pm
MistaBrown Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 2:19 pm
Or his alias’s
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What alias’s BrownStains?
August 2nd, 2012 at 2:22 pm
Calm down, old Troll
All you had to say from the beginning is “I’m scared” of big mean Brian the Genital
Hope that works out well for you tomorrow!
Your pal,
The Beeech Diggity Dawg
August 2nd, 2012 at 2:22 pm
MistaBrown Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 2:20 pm
KK Munster, you didn’t build that barbershop floor sweeping business. Someone else did that!
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What floor sweeping business, BrownStains?
August 2nd, 2012 at 2:23 pm
You know which ones you demented tr0|| freak.
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KoolKell Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 2:21 pm
What alias’s BrownStains?
August 2nd, 2012 at 2:24 pm
MistaBrown Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 2:23 pm
You know which ones you demented tr0|| freak.
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No, I don’t BrownStains, tell us.
August 2nd, 2012 at 2:25 pm
http://www.raiders.com/media-vault/videos/Behind-the-Shield-with-Greg-Papa/3f5f13c9-77ca-45b0-8569-836a83f54341
Greg Papa getting fresh with the beautiful sexy Jeanette Thompson.
I wonder if the players have a bet on who can get with Jeanette, damn she is fine
August 2nd, 2012 at 2:25 pm
I guess Cork is too busy. They asked him last week about the words being cut off on the Chat and he hasn’t even changed it or said anything.
In the other format he would even start chatting in someone else’s name until people kept telling him to log in as Cork.
Keep at it Cork…you get it eventually
August 2nd, 2012 at 2:26 pm
Is there practice today or a day off?
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Off today Plunk, Back at it 2:20 tomorrow.
August 2nd, 2012 at 2:27 pm
Even Capt Stubing makes you his constant b!tch.. I bet you had some sad, sad birthday parties all alone as a kid.
August 2nd, 2012 at 2:28 pm
Thanks Ghost..
August 2nd, 2012 at 2:28 pm
reg Papa getting fresh with the beautiful sexy Jeanette Thompson.
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I wonder if any of the Boys ever got “Extra” fresh….lol
August 2nd, 2012 at 2:28 pm
No probs man
August 2nd, 2012 at 2:29 pm
PlunkforHOF Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 2:27 pm
Even Capt Stubing makes you his constant b!tch.. I bet you had some sad, sad birthday parties all alone as a kid.
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Really?
August 2nd, 2012 at 2:31 pm
The answers are above the questions.
Shouldn’t it be the other way around?
August 2nd, 2012 at 2:32 pm
Yes, really… why else the constant desire for negative attention?
August 2nd, 2012 at 2:34 pm
PlunkforHOF Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 2:32 pm
Yes, really… why else the constant desire for negative attention?
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Seriously?
August 2nd, 2012 at 2:35 pm
You must be talking about Beech Dawg, Handfkr?
August 2nd, 2012 at 2:35 pm
If anyone from the IT department is reading this…
PLEASE, fix the following issues with chat:
1) Can’t see the scroll bar and missing some of the text.
2) Place older posts at top of the page, and on the first page. It makes way more sense to start at the top of page one with the oldest post. Then when you get to the bottom, the link to the next page is there waiting for you. This nonsense of having to go to page 7 (the real first page), scroll to the bottom, then read up, then scroll to bottom again to select the prior page (the real next page) is ridiculous.
Other than that, everything’s great
PS-Thanks Steve for doing the chat!
August 2nd, 2012 at 2:36 pm
names2long Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 2:35 pm
If anyone from the IT department is reading this…
PLEASE, fix the following issues with chat:
1) Can’t see the scroll bar and missing some of the text.
2) Place older posts at top of the page, and on the first page. It makes way more sense to start at the top of page one with the oldest post. Then when you get to the bottom, the link to the next page is there waiting for you. This nonsense of having to go to page 7 (the real first page), scroll to the bottom, then read up, then scroll to bottom again to select the prior page (the real next page) is ridiculous.
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co-signed
August 2nd, 2012 at 2:45 pm
KoolKell Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 2:35 pm
You must be talking about Beech Dawg, Handfkr?
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KrappyRat the Troll King
Now would be an excellent time to remind us how much you hate name calling
August 2nd, 2012 at 2:46 pm
Another hard counter hook to the body by the skipper of the Love Boat.
August 2nd, 2012 at 2:51 pm
PlunkforHOF Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 2:46 pm
Another hard counter hook to the body by the skipper of the Love Boat.
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This is the exact time when the Old Troll Rat always packs up his raggedy old blog bag and heads for the hills
Then he’ll reappear later as if he wasn’t cornered into a wall, again, by his own dumb words
An awesome treat for my Blog Brahs & the Beeech Dawgettes, my fabulous collection of wasted strippers
August 2nd, 2012 at 2:58 pm
Good evening Nation! Why do the chat mods allow the same Benson and Plax questions over and over? geez..
August 2nd, 2012 at 3:01 pm
You guys are funny in here.
Yeah the new chat format blows @$$c0rn…
August 2nd, 2012 at 3:01 pm
Well it’s almost evening here anyway..
August 2nd, 2012 at 3:02 pm
I was using the other chat on ContraCosta without the blog, no problem there.
August 2nd, 2012 at 3:02 pm
Tx cuz 1900 of the 2100 people logged into the chat are ID10ts asking the same d@mn stupid questions. Like they haven’t caught on yet that the world (ie: blogosphere) is creating its own rumors and they are NOT coming from any credible source.
August 2nd, 2012 at 3:04 pm
Or the home page, whatever it’s technically called..lol
August 2nd, 2012 at 3:04 pm
I tried three diff IBA newspaper sites (’cept for CCtimes) and they were all formated wrong. Even with the full width the back to front reading format still blows…
August 2nd, 2012 at 3:05 pm
JLofty
Yeah people just don’t read the thing before firing away, then Cork says “as I mentioned before”..
August 2nd, 2012 at 3:07 pm
Yeah I just used the article link on the homepage and is was formatted, but minus the blog.
August 2nd, 2012 at 3:09 pm
Lofty! Whats up? Hows life up there in the trees?
August 2nd, 2012 at 3:09 pm
kell got a haircut and went to harrisburg.pa
http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2012/08/harrisburg_man_arrested_in_con.html
August 2nd, 2012 at 3:25 pm
What bout signing Otah and letting him get healthy??? Any takers???
August 2nd, 2012 at 3:26 pm
I don’t think Reg would give much for Otah..imo
August 2nd, 2012 at 3:48 pm
LMAO@ the pic on the chat today, Jawalrus sighting!!
August 2nd, 2012 at 3:54 pm
I could fart in here and nobody would know…”PPppphhhheeeeeaaaauuuuuuauauauau auu eerr fff f “
August 2nd, 2012 at 4:01 pm
Sup Plunk. Having a rough summer. Health issues. Glad training camp is here to distract me. Been unable to work on the Verdi Raider Pavilion however….
August 2nd, 2012 at 4:03 pm
I have heard nice, encouraging things about talks accelerating between the City of Oakland and the Raiders. I can’t get into it now, but don’t be surprised if an announcement is made sometime before the end of the season.
August 2nd, 2012 at 4:04 pm
http://sports.yahoo.com/olympics/basketball/mens-preliminary-round-group-a-bkm400a09.html
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Is that taking it too far?
August 2nd, 2012 at 4:04 pm
TxRaider210 Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 3:26 pm
I don’t think Reg would give much for Otah..imo
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He wouldn’t have to give anything. Otah was cut by the Panthers today.
August 2nd, 2012 at 4:05 pm
Raiderboi18 Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 3:25 pm
What bout signing Otah and letting him get healthy??? Any takers???
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Dude sounds like an OL version of Schilens. It may not be possible for him to even get healthy, football-wise.
August 2nd, 2012 at 4:07 pm
Duck, that’s what I thought also, dude may not find a job if two teams don’t want him.
August 2nd, 2012 at 4:07 pm
Yo, just got totally laid by this coked out black stripper with massive fake ones
By fake ones, I mean boobies, btw
My weiner is totally sore, gonna pop in The Iron Lady starring Ms. Meryl Streep and smoke a spliff
Probably soak my nads in some Coke Zero later on, get them bad boyz ready for the weekend, holla
August 2nd, 2012 at 4:14 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 12:28 pm
Yo, online chats are for super dweebs
Straight up
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Bad news Beeech
This entire blog is a glorified chatroom. Reminds me of the golden days of AOL chatrooms. I lived in a biker bar chatroom and meet dozens of straight up, hard up, horny hos that thought their soulmate was waiting in vegas on the greenest grass.
Checked em out and flew a few of the “saner” ones out to Vegas for a plunkcation. Good old days, indeed.
August 2nd, 2012 at 4:19 pm
Plunketthead Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 4:14 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 12:28 pm
Yo, online chats are for super dweebs
Straight up
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Bad news Beeech
This entire blog is a glorified chatroom. Reminds me of the golden days of AOL chatrooms. I lived in a biker bar chatroom and meet dozens of straight up, hard up, horny hos that thought their soulmate was waiting in vegas on the greenest grass.
Checked em out and flew a few of the “saner” ones out to Vegas for a plunkcation. Good old days, indeed.
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Now that’s what I’m talkin’ bout when I say
PM PARTY PATROL IN FULL EFFECT
August 2nd, 2012 at 4:19 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 4:07 pm
Yo, just got totally laid by this coked out black stripper with massive fake ones
By fake ones, I mean boobies, btw
My weiner is totally sore, gonna pop in The Iron Lady starring Ms. Meryl Streep and smoke a spliff
Probably soak my nads in some Coke Zero later on, get them bad boyz ready for the weekend, holla
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Let me guess, she was in a chat room, and you were fking your hand?
August 2nd, 2012 at 4:21 pm
“in vegas on the greenest grass” ah yes poo water grass sho is green….
August 2nd, 2012 at 4:23 pm
KK Munster did you take your dumb dumb pills today?
August 2nd, 2012 at 4:25 pm
BrownStains, did you fumigate your trailer today?
August 2nd, 2012 at 4:27 pm
KrappyRat, don’t be in a bad mood just because you’re nervous about meeting Brian the Genital face to face tomorrow at Raider practice
Just double up on the Depends and go into your 1930’s boxing stance as soon as you see him
Sincerely,
You Pal,
The One & Only,
Beeech Diggity Dawg
August 2nd, 2012 at 4:28 pm
What trailer Munster?
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KoolKell Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 4:25 pm
BrownStains, did you fumigate your trailer today?
August 2nd, 2012 at 4:29 pm
Raider O,
Yeah I read your post. Im still confused. The whole reason I posted my info was because you were complaining that the Olympians were being taxed even though they were earning abroad.
Now youre saying that they basically dont have to pay taxes because it’s under a certain amount.
Clear up the contradiction and we can further the debate.
For the record, I currently live overseas. And I manage pro athletes. In other words, part of my job is helping them “protect” their money.
I wouldnt know about any exemptions that you speak of as my last client made quite a bit more than that.
But the bottom line of my post was this, you pay your taxes based on where you have residency. Not where you live. Not where you work. Not where you have citizenship. You must pay based on where you get your mail so to speak.
How does that relate to your original post? You couldnt understand why the Olympians are being taxed on their medals earned abroad. I simply said that it is because they hold residency in America.
(personally I hate all income taxes and believe that we are double taxed the moment we pay sales tax but that is another topic)
As for Dubai… I have friends their but in order to get residency, I was under the impression it was rather difficult/expensive. Similar to Switzerland in that regard. Ive also heard that it is a good country to go to to hide ones savings but I dont have any firsthand experience.
August 2nd, 2012 at 4:29 pm
Beech Dawg, I’ll be signing autographs tomorrow at Raider practice, can you make it?
August 2nd, 2012 at 4:31 pm
MistaBrown Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 4:28 pm
What trailer ?
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You know, that contraption you live in
August 2nd, 2012 at 4:31 pm
KoolKell Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 4:29 pm
Beech Dawg, I’ll be signing autographs tomorrow at Raider practice, can you make it?
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You can fit a pen between those Stay Puft Marshmellow Man fingers of yours?
August 2nd, 2012 at 4:31 pm
KK Chick Fil A, did you have a good day of blogging in between naps? Selling a house is not even in the mix is it ?
August 2nd, 2012 at 4:32 pm
Lol
August 2nd, 2012 at 4:33 pm
KK Chick Fil A, you like to talk about FK’ng hands…Since your wife left you 10 yrs ago this a hot topic for you, yeah ?
August 2nd, 2012 at 4:35 pm
MistaBrown Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 4:31 pm
KK Chick Fil A, did you have a good day of blogging in between naps? Selling a house is not even in the mix is it ?
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Have a couple of homes in escrow right now, BrownStains. If its any of your business.
You stalkers need to get a life. Get outside a little bit Lol.
August 2nd, 2012 at 4:36 pm
KK Chic Fil A, you are a community man that’s above name calling & despises such things that’s why you never call people crackers, hand fk’rs, or sand monkeys, right?
August 2nd, 2012 at 4:38 pm
KK Chic Fil A, only females complain about stalkers, ok? And for all you know Im on my laptop at the barbershop, ok dumb dumb?
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KoolKell Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 4:35 pm
You stalkers need to get a life. Get outside a little bit Lol.
August 2nd, 2012 at 4:39 pm
BrownStains, Get a life. get out of that Trailer for a few hours a day. You’ll feel better.
August 2nd, 2012 at 4:42 pm
Barry Hussein supporters:
-Hugo Chavez
-Red China
-Bill Maher
-KK
-MR
-Illegal Aliens
-Socialist
-Marxist
-Welfare recipients
-Seymour Bush
-Food stamp recipients
-Tax takers
-Occupy movement
-Union thugs
-Crony capitalist
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The end
August 2nd, 2012 at 4:43 pm
KK Fil A,
I get outside everyday.
Repeat something less retarded…
August 2nd, 2012 at 4:45 pm
Well BrownStains, looks like 0bama is winning………………lol.
August 2nd, 2012 at 4:49 pm
why cant i post?
August 2nd, 2012 at 4:50 pm
Raider O
Sorry it takes so long to reply. I get burned out on all the hate here and have to walk away from the site sometimes.
Too much bashing of Raiders.
Gannon – Best QB weve ever had, but he didnt have a rocket arm so he gets called a “noodle arm” by certain dorks
Jamarcuss – Had the rocket arm but also gets blasted. Make up your mind people. No QB succeeded in the environment he was in. That is a simple fact. We sucked before him and after. In all honesty, pretty hard to judge considering what he walked into.
CP3 – Read way too much crap about the guy last year. I feel a lot of peeps here are waiting for him to fail so they can say “I told you so!!!”
DHB – Takes way too much krap for being as hard working as he is. Not a diva. Blocks. Goes across the middle. Tough. Durable. Ridiculous to be so hard on the kid.
Ford – One games for us. We all loved him. Then Denarius showed up and it all changed. Ford produces whenever he’s in the lineup…FACT.
DMoore – Im already reading the rumblings. People say he’s is not durable. Pretty soon he’ll be on the semi-pro chopping block.
Rolando – Played in defense scheme from the 70s the last two years. Complete opposite of the system he was drafted from. But regardless we expect him to be Ray Lewis. Played hurt all last year but nobody cares.
TK – The guy played his a55 off last year. Non of the semi’s noticed.
Seymore – Played hurt all last year. Blocked FG’s to keep us in games yet people still think he needs to step up.
Huff – See what I said regarding 55.
RunDMC – All offseason all I heard around here was “trade him”. Best RB in football but some of the idiots here want to trade him. Sheesh. Even Bo Jackson got hurt. It happens. This is football.
Curry – Running around being a coach and helping the best he can. Loves being a Raider. Loves being a Raider a lot more than some here love being a Raider Fan.
Gruden – Best coach we had since Madden yet Ive read over the last few days what a great decision it was for us to trade him. Talk like that should make you trade in your Raider eye patch right then and there.
Kawakami – Wait… bash that lil prick all y’all want. I hate the guy. He hates us.
Bottom line is Im sick of all the Raider player bashing. Go read a Bronco blog or Chiefs blog. They talk less crap on our players than we do. We got the best situation going into camp since the Gruden/Gannon era and people are complaining? We should all be through the moon with excitement.
These are not the Raider fans that I remember back when I had season tickets in the black hole. Seriously, some of y’all need to figure out what side of the fence you are on. You are either with us or against us, their is no inbetween. Im not saying we all need to be myopic punks, but we can stop with the outright blasting of our own guys. Our guys are who we got, so either support ‘em or go root for another team.
August 2nd, 2012 at 4:52 pm
KK and MB puttin’ on their Schilens and Cromartie act as usual.
August 2nd, 2012 at 4:52 pm
But..but…Obamney said he gonna pay my light bill:(
August 2nd, 2012 at 4:57 pm
Raider Riff Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 4:49 pm
why cant i post?
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Maybe KK alerted them and said you are a foreigner..lol
August 2nd, 2012 at 4:59 pm
Riff,
Are you still here bro?
I think you had me confused with someone else.
August 2nd, 2012 at 5:01 pm
RaidingTexas Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 4:52 pm
KK and MB puttin’ on their Schilens and Cromartie act as usual.
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You mean Schilens and Mike Adams the Cleveland Clowns safety. Jamista Clown is a troll who comes here to fight with Raider fans. But he knows a lot about his beloved Cleveland Browns.
August 2nd, 2012 at 5:03 pm
BrownStains, did you hear, Romneys dancing Horse came in at 13th.
August 2nd, 2012 at 5:03 pm
Riff
Nice job
Jamarcus was all on jamarcus, not the Raiders, right?
Looking for Rolando to have a pro bowl year
If Seymour stays healhty = proboler
Gruden was out the door no matter what so Mister Davis threw the first punch as he so often did and did in a way not done before of since then.
August 2nd, 2012 at 5:03 pm
Riff,
Someone posted yesterday that athletes have to pay taxes on their medals, and I never heard of that before. I gave an example of how someone can work/ earn income in other countries without having to pay taxes here.
I don’t understand why that is confusing.
August 2nd, 2012 at 5:04 pm
Good thing it was a Horse, and the fella has no CLUE he came in 13th.lol
August 2nd, 2012 at 5:05 pm
Man looks like that other bich troll melted down in here looking for my attention. This is starting to get really pathetically sad for her. Maybe she and Jamista Clown could have a troll reality show on the net. They could call it Skanky and the Turd.
August 2nd, 2012 at 5:05 pm
Btw, I never complained about Olympians being taxed. I didn’t even know they had to pay taxes on those medals before yesterday.
August 2nd, 2012 at 5:07 pm
KoolKell Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 5:03 pm
BrownStains, did you hear, Romneys dancing Horse came in at 13th.
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That’s closer than “Dancing Romney” is going to place in the national election. The conservatives will write in 12 other candidates in front of Romeny including Bachmann, Huckabee and Newt. None of which have a snow balls chance with thinking people.
August 2nd, 2012 at 5:08 pm
Why would they pay taxes on medals? The value of the gold? They’re not paid to actually perform.
August 2nd, 2012 at 5:09 pm
The tax money shall go toward the Queen’s pearl necklace.
August 2nd, 2012 at 5:09 pm
Mister Davis hit a grand slam but the evil football spirits conspired and stole all the joy from Raiderland.
That SB belonged to the Raiders for the royal screwing we got the previous two years.
But no, Gruden got lucky and had the easist game of his carreer and we got screwed for the third year in a row
August 2nd, 2012 at 5:10 pm
PlunkforHOF Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 5:08 pm
Why would they pay taxes on medals? The value of the gold? They’re not paid to actually perform.
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They received something of value. They would have to pay tax on it.
August 2nd, 2012 at 5:12 pm
I think that the people who argue about which political party is going to save their ass are truly beyond saving.
August 2nd, 2012 at 5:15 pm
153 Endorsed!
August 2nd, 2012 at 5:17 pm
Yeah I read your post. Im still confused. The whole reason I posted my info was because you were complaining that the Olympians were being taxed even though they were earning abroad.
Now youre saying that they basically dont have to pay taxes because it’s under a certain amount.
Clear up the contradiction and we can further the debate.
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There is no contradiction. I said the same thing yesterday, but I got the amount wrong. I said $98500, and it’s $91400.
The idea is to avoid double taxation, so If you work/ have dual citizenship in a country with no income tax like UAE (Dubai), you have an exemption on $91400. If you ate not a dual citizen, then you have to come back to the USfor 1 month and work abroad for 11/12 months.
“First, an individual who is a bona fide resident of a foreign country or is physically outside the United States for an extended time is entitled to an exclusion (exemption) of part or all of their earned income (i.e. personal service income, as distinguished from income from capital or investments.) That exemption is $91,400 for 2009, pro-rated.[5] (See IRS form 2555.)
Second, the United States allows a foreign tax credit by which income taxes paid to foreign countries can be offset against U.S. income tax liability attributable to foreign income. This can be a complex issue that often requires the services of a tax advisor. The foreign tax credit is not allowed for taxes paid on earned income that is excluded under the rules described in the preceding paragraph (i.e. no double dipping).” wiki
August 2nd, 2012 at 5:17 pm
Raider Riff Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 4:50 pm
Too much bashing of Raiders.
Jamarcuss – Had the rocket arm but also gets blasted. Make up your mind people. No QB succeeded in the environment he was in. That is a simple fact. We sucked before him and after. In all honesty, pretty hard to judge considering what he walked into.
Rolando – Played in defense scheme from the 70s the last two years. Complete opposite of the system he was drafted from. But regardless we expect him to be Ray Lewis. Played hurt all last year but nobody cares.
RunDMC – All offseason all I heard around here was “trade him”. Best RB in football but some of the idiots here want to trade him. Sheesh. Even Bo Jackson got hurt. It happens. This is football.
Gruden – Best coach we had since Madden yet Ive read over the last few days what a great decision it was for us to trade him. Talk like that should make you trade in your Raider eye patch right then and there.
Kawakami – Wait… bash that lil prick all y’all want. I hate the guy. He hates us.
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Like Steve Bartkowski, Archie Manning, Steve Grogan, John Brodie and countless others, JaMarcus Russell was talented quarterback who found himself on a bad team. The difference with him was his complete unwillingness to work for anything, to improve his situation, or to even act professional for the money he was handed. The fact that a perfectly healthy 26-year-old 2007 overall #1 pick wants to return to the NFL but hasn’t had so much as a phone call from the league in almost two years demonstrates that the semis on this board are completely correct in their assessment of his pathetic self.
McClain hits the wrong gap too many times and doesn’t play smart football. I agree that if he plays well this year (his first in a legitimate NFL defense), we can safely give him a mulligan for his first two.
DMAC is an awesome runner when healthy. WHEN HEALTHY. He’s had exactly one healthy season in four. As I said at the time, nobody on this board would want to trade him if we knew he’d play 13 or 14 games this year. But we don’t know that, and history suggests he won’t. I hope I’m wrong.
Al should never have let Gruden go, but it was two egos that simply couldn’t co-exist. Nothing we can do about that now.
Kawakami is a little unfair from time to time, but also has some good insights. John Herrera trying to goad him into a fistfight with the cameras running still ranks as the all-time Raiders low point.
August 2nd, 2012 at 5:18 pm
Endorsed again
You did’nt build that
August 2nd, 2012 at 5:20 pm
Jalwalrus clearly, by the recent photo, stashed too many cheese-burgers in to the “cheese-burger locker”
August 2nd, 2012 at 5:20 pm
There is only one political party, the ruling elite.
Oh, they may quibble amongst themselve about how their ill gotten gains are to be divided or how they can fool the “mundanes” into becoming their tools but if you vote Dem. or Rep. you are playing their game.
August 2nd, 2012 at 5:20 pm
Riff,
Are those athletes Americans or dual citizens?
I think you should hire a tax accountant to help you bro. I’m a finance major, so I have an idea about the topic, but I’m not an expert. Like I said, I also worked/ lived abroad in 05 & 06.
August 2nd, 2012 at 5:21 pm
Tx,
The Green Party is the best party.
Green Party Rules!
August 2nd, 2012 at 5:23 pm
I asked Cork today, but the question didn’t appear…T or F, Donks defense will take a big hit from losses of DJ Williams, Dawkins and Dumervil(pending).
Cork replied : No doubt. Those are three good players.
August 2nd, 2012 at 5:24 pm
Riff,
Its all good bro. I understand what you are saying about the fighting and Raiders Bashing.
August 2nd, 2012 at 5:26 pm
Dual citizen or have residency*
August 2nd, 2012 at 5:27 pm
Raider O Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 5:21 pm
Tx,
The Green Party is the best party.
Green Party Rules!
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The first figure to End the War on drugs, will be the Green Party favorite!
August 2nd, 2012 at 5:29 pm
TxRaider, that would be Ron Paul. Have you ever heard of him?
August 2nd, 2012 at 5:30 pm
who is the all-time most hated blogger in here? sullivan (ridiculous anti-raiderness) or screeech dog (in raider blog to talk about his weiner to a bunch of guys/never actually says anything funny/lame as possible).
chime in boys.
August 2nd, 2012 at 5:30 pm
Yessir, followed Dr. Paul for about 6 years now, last honest politician and choice of the troops.
August 2nd, 2012 at 5:31 pm
As for Dubai… I have friends their but in order to get residency, I was under the impression it was rather difficult/expensive. Similar to Switzerland in that regard. Ive also heard that it is a good country to go to to hide ones savings but I dont have any firsthand experience.
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You don’t need to be a resident of Dubai to be exempt. If you are an American living in Dubai (no income tax), you work there for 11 months, come to the US for 1 month, then you are exempted on $91400, but you have to pay taxes on additional income.
If you an American citizen living in Europe, you are Effed, because they have income tax there and it’s high.
I hope this helps and your clients bro.
August 2nd, 2012 at 5:32 pm
Let me correct myself, not all troops, but the ones I know.
August 2nd, 2012 at 5:34 pm
Tx,
We don’t want to end the war on drugs, we want to end the war on weed! lol
August 2nd, 2012 at 5:35 pm
rob_raider Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 5:30 pm
who is the all-time most hated blogger in here?
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MR takes the cake. KK next with biachi and Jamista Clown coming in right behind. Raider HO is rapidly climbing up the charts tho.
August 2nd, 2012 at 5:37 pm
O
Also keep in mind that true freedom brings accountability, to each individual. Do as one pleases, but don’t ask the govt to fix your problems later.
August 2nd, 2012 at 5:38 pm
And by govt, I mean taxpayer.
August 2nd, 2012 at 5:42 pm
Raider Riff Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 4:50 pm
Raider O
Jamarcuss – In all honesty, pretty hard to judge considering what he walked into.
Ford – Ford produces whenever he’s in the lineup…FACT.
Rolando – Played in defense scheme from the 70s the last two years. Complete opposite of the system he was drafted from. But regardless we expect him to be Ray Lewis. Played hurt all last year but nobody cares.
TK – The guy played his a55 off last year. Non of the semi’s noticed.
Seymore – Played hurt all last year. Blocked FG’s to keep us in games yet people still think he needs to step up.
Huff – See what I said regarding 55.
Kawakami – Wait… bash that lil prick all y’all want. I hate the guy. He hates us.
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i agree with u on a lot but i have to answer a few.
jamarcus–sucked. period. it’s very easy to tell. no one else wanted him when he was dropped.
ford–i like him….as a returner. he hasn’t done anything to suggest he’s a great wr. a few circus catches. very skeptical he will be more than a 3rd or 4th wr.
mccalin–scheme doesn’t make u stand and watch, or take horrible angles, or let blockers come to u while u just dance with them. it could be youth and he showed some improvement last year, but to me he has shown himself thus far to be a punk.
kelly and seymour–absolutely. people that knock them dont’ know sh!t.
huff–just ok. he’s not young. went from being a near bust to pretty decent. that’s about it. players make plays. he usually doesn’t. scheme won’t change that.
kawakami–idiot. why is he employed?
August 2nd, 2012 at 5:42 pm
Blog is pretty boring today folks talkn politics an all. But I guess that’s the norm for some.
August 2nd, 2012 at 5:44 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 5:35 pm
rob_raider Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 5:30 pm
who is the all-time most hated blogger in here?
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MR takes the cake. KK next with biachi and Jamista Clown coming in right behind. Raider HO is rapidly climbing up the charts tho.
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HOLLA DUDES
ya know my ex could learn a thing or two from my girlfriend.. HOLLA can drop a big deuce, but she done split.
HOLLA DONT EAT THAT FRIZZLE PICKLE
ROLL ROLL JELLYROLL, DONT EAT YELLOW SNOW
August 2nd, 2012 at 5:45 pm
I have an acquaintance that was an Army Ranger and served in Iraq and Afghanistan. I asked him “why do you risk your life to serve this corrupt, totalitarian regime?” He said he just wanted to be on the winning side.
This is what we are up against.
I don’t understand the reverence for the military.
These guy will kill Americans just as easily as they kill Arabs.
August 2nd, 2012 at 5:51 pm
Raider O,
It’s late here. Trying to sleep but restless.
Anyways, yeah, my clients are American citizens. With American residency. I found creative ways to get them foreign accounts. No taxes paid. And yes I employ professional accountants and have a legal team on retainer at all times.
Raider Duck,
Jamarcuss didnt help his cause. Im not sticking up for the guy 100%. But the reason I get pissed off is that people knock Gannon for his arm and then knock Jamarcuss because we drafted him for his arm. It doesnt make any sense.
All Gannon did was win. He should never be bashed. EVER. Until CP3 showed up, if you would have taken a poll, Raider fans would have been in favor of letting Rich suit up one more time even as late as last year. He was a leader. A winner.
Rolando doesnt play smart football? Really? His football IQ is off the charts. But I guess the coaches that coach him dont know that they are talking about do they. Surround him with other LB’s that are more than athletes and we will see a different Rolando. There is nothing more to the issue than that.
Look, we as a franchise have been notorious for signing or drafting talented guys and then trying to get them to fit our mold rather than either build our system around them or simply draft/sign guys that fit our system. It was a asinine way to go about things. Stop defending it.
The bottom line is this. Either you are a fan of the Raiders or you are not. If you are a fan, you root for the team and its players. Far too many here have a small list of players on this team they cant wait to get rid of. It’s ridiculous.
We got rid of Randy Moss and how did that work out?
We got rid of C Woodson and how did that work out?
DeAngelo Hall has even been good in Washington. Just another example of where we tried to fit a square peg into a round hole. He’s a zone DB. Everyone knows that. Only Al would expect his coaches to get something else out of the guy.
Yet Gannon takes crap here because he called it as it was after he was shown the door. He wasnt bitter, he was being honest. Because he cared.
Argue all you want but the proof is in the pudding. 11 years of non winning seasons. Plus an equally disappointing decade in the 90s. Plenty of coaches. Plenty of talented players. One constant.
Youre either a Raider fan or you arent. The bandwagon shuts its doors soon. Get on board now or get left behind.
This rant aint directed at any one person in particular. All of y’all know who you are.
August 2nd, 2012 at 5:51 pm
1. ”We don’t think a child of 13 should be held responsible as a man of 23. That’s true for most people, but black males age 13 who have been raised on the streets and who have joined criminal gangs are as big, strong, tough, scary and culpable as any adult and should be treated as such.”
Ron Paul
August 2nd, 2012 at 5:53 pm
5. “Contrary to the claims of the supporters of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the sponsors of H.Res. 676, the Civil Rights Act of 1964 did not improve race relations or enhance freedom. Instead, the forced integration dictated by the Civil Rights Act of 1964 increased racial tensions while diminishing individual liberty.” -On the 40th Anniversary of the Civil Rights Act
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Ron Paul
August 2nd, 2012 at 5:55 pm
7. “I wouldn’t vote against getting rid of the Jim Crow laws.” -When asked if he would have voted for the Civil Rights Act.
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Ron Paul
August 2nd, 2012 at 5:55 pm
KK
Yeah post a link bud, not jabber please.
August 2nd, 2012 at 5:56 pm
8. “Opinion polls consistently show that only about 5 percent of blacks have sensible political opinions, i.e. support the free market, individual liberty and the end of welfare and affirmative action.”
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Ron Paul
August 2nd, 2012 at 5:56 pm
KoolKell, nice try you leftist tool.
August 2nd, 2012 at 5:57 pm
KK
Youtube all the blacks who support Paul.
August 2nd, 2012 at 5:57 pm
Twocents Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 5:45 pm
I have an acquaintance that was an Army Ranger and served in Iraq and Afghanistan. I asked him “why do you risk your life to serve this corrupt, totalitarian regime?” He said he just wanted to be on the winning side.
This is what we are up against.
I don’t understand the reverence for the military.
These guy will kill Americans just as easily as they kill Arabs.
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Once the toothpaste is out of the tube, it’s hard to get it back in.
August 2nd, 2012 at 5:59 pm
Google Ron Paul’s racist comments, they come up everywhere, if you’re really interested.
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:00 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fyRVa4lzRo
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Feed on Freedom Kell!!
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:01 pm
“Given the inefficiencies of what DC laughingly calls the criminal justice system, I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal.”
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Ron Paul
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:01 pm
Do we really need this political race baiting evil atrocious crap festering up on a Raiders blog? Your views suck ass, my views suck ass, BFD. Its a fcking Raiders blog for pete’s sake.
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:01 pm
Ron Paul has been as consistent as any politician in this century. He has written books that explain his position. KoolKell is a leftist. He will lie and cheat like they all do.
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:01 pm
Rob, I dont want to get into a major debate of Jamarcus. You guys are missing my point.
Try and see the forrest from the trees on this one.
But I’ll take the Jamarcuss bait one more time.
- He was clutch. He always was good in the 4th quarter. As advertised in college. How many games did our chitty defensive scheme lose us in the 4th after he rallied? A lot.
- He had the worst receiving core in football. And to make matters worse, all of the receivers were at least .3 seconds faster on their 40 yard dash times than the guys Jamarcus was used to throwing to in college. You guys have no idea how difficult it is to throw to a guy who runs a 4.3 or faster. Jerry Rice ran a 4.7 I believe, and QB’s never missed him, they were always on target.
- Coaching carousel: When does this work in the NFL? Basically 3 coaches in 4 years. Yeah, that was Jamarcus’ fault.
These players make it to the NFL for a reason. They played for coaches and systems that fit their skillsets. When they come to the pros and fail, 9 times out of 10 its because they went to the wrong system or got poor development coaching or werent given enough time. There is a reason why some teams are drafting in the top 10 every year, its because they are a dysfunctional mess and a revolving door for coaches. We were one of those teams. You cannot fault players for that. You can only praise the guys who somehow managed to persevere in that environment.
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:01 pm
After the Los Angeles riots, one article in a newsletter claimed, “Order was only restored in L.A. when it came time for the blacks to pick up their welfare checks.”
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Ron Paul
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:02 pm
Raider Riff Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 4:50 pm
Raider O
Sorry it takes so long to reply. I get burned out on all the hate here and have to walk away from the site sometimes.
Too much bashing of Raiders.
Gannon – Best QB weve ever had, but he didnt have a rocket arm so he gets called a “noodle arm” by certain dorks
Jamarcuss – Had the rocket arm but also gets blasted. Make up your mind people. No QB succeeded in the environment he was in. That is a simple fact. We sucked before him and after. In all honesty, pretty hard to judge considering what he walked into.
CP3 – Read way too much crap about the guy last year. I feel a lot of peeps here are waiting for him to fail so they can say “I told you so!!!”
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This is a damn good post! I’ve been guilty of being overy critical of players on the team myself, especially Palmer. My deal with him is that he’s been given a free pass for quitting on the Bengals. From what I can see, that organization has been 10 times better than the Raiders the last 10 years. He was paid well and was surrounded with great offensive talent, so I don’t get what his problem was. You see guys like Vince Young get labeled as a quitter because he walked out of the locker room during a very heated exchange with Jeff Fisher, a coach that never wanted him in the 1st place. But there isn’t a peep about Palmer. In my mind, he doesn’t deserve a free pass for “coming off the couch” to play for us because he willingly put himself there in the 1st place. His desire to play the game has to be questioned. And his performance last year is par for the course the last couple of years. He’s a #1 overall talent, so with the help of McFadden and Knapp he should be able to turn it around. It’s just very annoying to hear clowns on this board put him on a pedestal while at the same time figuring out new ways to denigrate Jason Campbell who played damn well for us and won a lot of football games during his time here.
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:03 pm
Some choice quotes:
“Given the inefficiencies of what DC laughingly calls the criminal justice system, I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal.”
“We are constantly told that it is evil to be afraid of black men, it is hardly irrational.”
After the Los Angeles riots, one article in a newsletter claimed, “Order was only restored in L.A. when it came time for the blacks to pick up their welfare checks.”
One referred to Martin Luther King Jr. as “the world-class philanderer who beat up his paramours” and who “seduced underage girls and boys.”
Another referred to Barbara Jordan, a civil rights activist and congresswoman as “Barbara Morondon,” the “archetypical half-educated victimologist.”
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Ron Paul
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:04 pm
Twocents gets it. The rest of you dont.
Ron Paul wants to take down the banks, the root of all the worlds problems.
But if he does indeed try, he’ll be killed off before he succeeds. FACT.
If we want change, were going to all have to do it ourselves. And not at the voting booth either. Voting is the equivalent of asking nicely. Well folks, we are dealing with stone cold gangsters that run the world. The worlds elite laugh at the suckers at the ballot box and only respect one thing and one thing only, the sword.
Until we are ready to burn some of these punks at the stake, they aint gonna listen and we will continue to be bent over without lube.
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:05 pm
Raider Riff Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:01 pm
Rob, I dont want to get into a major debate of Jamarcus. You guys are missing my point.
Try and see the forrest from the trees on this one.
But I’ll take the Jamarcuss bait one more time.
- He was clutch. He always was good in the 4th quarter. As advertised in college. How many games did our chitty defensive scheme lose us in the 4th after he rallied? A lot.
- He had the worst receiving core in football. And to make matters worse, all of the receivers were at least .3 seconds faster on their 40 yard dash times than the guys Jamarcus was used to throwing to in college. You guys have no idea how difficult it is to throw to a guy who runs a 4.3 or faster. Jerry Rice ran a 4.7 I believe, and QB’s never missed him, they were always on target.
- Coaching carousel: When does this work in the NFL? Basically 3 coaches in 4 years. Yeah, that was Jamarcus’ fault.
These players make it to the NFL for a reason. They played for coaches and systems that fit their skillsets. When they come to the pros and fail, 9 times out of 10 its because they went to the wrong system or got poor development coaching or werent given enough time. There is a reason why some teams are drafting in the top 10 every year, its because they are a dysfunctional mess and a revolving door for coaches. We were one of those teams. You cannot fault players for that. You can only praise the guys who somehow managed to persevere in that environment.
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Wow! I hope some of you clowns are taking notes. Been preaching this for years on this board. It’s really very simple.
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:05 pm
KollKell, you are truly trash.
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:06 pm
No link Kell? Still rather vote for Hitler 2.0?
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:06 pm
Nah, I guess “stupid American sheep” never saw the value in Ron Paul. Oh well. Lol
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:09 pm
http://globalgrind.com/news/he-said-what-ron-pauls-racist-newsletters-craziest-quotes-list
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:09 pm
Raider Riff, it is great to hear some support from someone who gets it. If we stand together we can win.
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:09 pm
This Jets coverage is making me sick.
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:10 pm
RaiderDebo,
You prove my point exactly.
Youre willing to admit you have been overly critical of Palmer, and it was due to the fact that you didnt like the heat JC took from Raider fans.
The “eye for an eye” mentality gets us nowhere.
All it does is create a mess. A mess the players sometimes read. Seriously, with some of the hate here, is this really the type of stuff we want our guys to read about them?
It’s a vicious cycle that needs to stop IMO.
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:10 pm
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/12/28/10-outrageous-ron-paul-quotes.html
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:11 pm
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/ron-paul-and-the-racist-newsletters-fact-checker-biography/2011/12/21/gIQAKNiwBP_blog.html
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:12 pm
Kell
In all reality, believe what you will, just don’t ask your neighbor for help when “survival of the fittest” comes in to play. Someone may give you a can of beans, just don’t stalk their families.
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:12 pm
KoolKell, you can find all kinds of crap on the internet.
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:14 pm
Twocents Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:09 pm
Raider Riff, it is great to hear some support from someone who gets it. If we stand together we can win.
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Just hope you “geniuses don’t go out shooting Americans who disagree.
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:15 pm
TxRaider210 Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:12 pm
Kell
In all reality, believe what you will, just don’t ask your neighbor for help when “survival of the fittest” comes in to play. Someone may give you a can of beans, just don’t stalk their families.
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Okaaaaaay, I’ll try to remember that. Lol
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:16 pm
These quotes that KK is posting about Ron Paul are just laughable.
I gotta wonder, do some of you even talk football, ever? There is a select group here lead by Beech that NEVER talk football. They just get in arguments the whole time about politics, each other, or religion.
It is so weird.
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:16 pm
Raider Riff Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:04 pm
Twocents gets it. The rest of you dont.
Ron Paul wants to take down the banks, the root of all the worlds problems.
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While I certainly appreciate this post my question is what has Ron Paul actually DONE to take down the banks? Has he fostered any legislation to break up the big banking interests? How’s about limit the scope of their finacial involvement in derivatives? Sent anyone to jail?
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:17 pm
Raider Riff Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:10 pm
RaiderDebo,
You prove my point exactly.
Youre willing to admit you have been overly critical of Palmer, and it was due to the fact that you didnt like the heat JC took from Raider fans.
The “eye for an eye” mentality gets us nowhere.
All it does is create a mess. A mess the players sometimes read. Seriously, with some of the hate here, is this really the type of stuff we want our guys to read about them?
It’s a vicious cycle that needs to stop IMO.
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No question about it, although the Palmer trade never felt quite right to me. The guy has a lot to prove. But your posts have really hit home. Enjoyed being a Raider fan a lot more before I started posting on this board. Trying to get back to that.
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:17 pm
KoolKell, have you read any of Ron Pauls books?
Do you believe that the Federal Reserve should be audited?
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:19 pm
Low information voter:
One who votes based on information gleaned from other low information voters, rumors, viral emails, and FOX “News”.
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:21 pm
Jamie Dimon and Blythe Masters, easy street to facism.
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:21 pm
Seymour, you are as lame as KoolKell.
What has he done? The idiocy of that statement astounds me.
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:21 pm
Twocents Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:17 pm
KoolKell, have you read any of Ron Pauls books?
Do you believe that the Federal Reserve should be audited?
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Ron Paul has run for President many times, nobody is interested.
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:22 pm
Riff: JaMarcus was in a bad situation. So what? Go look at some of the crap teams Bartkowski and Archie Manning and Sonny Jurgensen and so forth played on. Yet they found a way to be good quarterbacks. JaMarcus didn’t even try.
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:23 pm
KoolKell, I don’t believe you read anything. You are a media tool.
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:24 pm
Well Seymour Bush, he’s been pushing that bill to audit the FED. That is a start.
But if you ask the average citizen what that bill really means and just how significant it really is, they dont have a clue. And that is the root of the issue.
Ron Paul is one man. He cant do it all. And if he were too, he’d be killed off in a heartbeat. Remember JFK? He and his backers had dreams of shutting down the FED mafia. Bam. He’s a goner. And then went his brother who was on the same quest.
If we want results, we gotta stop with the hero worship and roll up our sleeves and do it as a group.
Problem with that is, no matter how bad we have it (and its much worse than it should be), the masses are always under the belief that America is so much better than the rest of the world. So as long as a individual isnt on the bottom of the heap, he’s just happy he has it better than someone else.
That is the way they have it set up now. Its not the feudal age anymore where it was elite and then poor. Its a pyramid. Much easier to control. No matter how upset one tier of that pyramid is, no matter how bad they may have it, if they want to force change, they have to battle not just the elite, but every person of every tier above them. It’s a clever system.
The occupy people have it right… almost. But again, you cant beg with gangsters. You gotta fight fire with fire with these crooks.
But until we all realize that their is no left or right, no red or blue, just us vs them, we aint gonna go anywhere. So stock up on lube, were all gonna need it.
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:26 pm
Riff speakin’ truth
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:27 pm
Duck, he was in the the middle of the worst decade of pro football. No team has lost more games over the same period of time.
I cannot begin to fathom why you would try and defend what a horrible team we were.
Im not defending Jamarcus. All Im saying is that NO MATTER WHAT, he would have failed. It was a un-winnable situation.
Then again, you were probably one of those who were happy to see Randy Moss go. I suppose it was his fault as well? (rhetorical question, dont answer please)
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:27 pm
LOW-INFORMATION VOTERS…. Most of the coverage I’ve seen today of “Tea Party” events have been a little scary, not because organized conservative activists have laid the framework for an effective and coherent movement, but because a lot of these folks are mad as a hatter.
Consider this CNN segment about a Tea Baggers’ event in Chicago, where CNN’s Susan Roesgen asked some protestors for their thoughts. The first gentleman (I use the word loosely) carried a picture of President 0bama as Hitler. He kept telling Roesgen that the president is a “fascist.” When asked what leads him to believe this, the man said, “Because he is.” The protestor went on to explain why term limits are so important. Wow.
Realizing that she probably wasn’t going to get anything coherent from this guy, Roesgen then spoke to another man, who proceeded to ramble on about why 0bama should be more like Abraham Lincoln, who didn’t try to take taxpayers’ money.
Perhaps now would be a good time to note that Tea Baggers should probably stop looking to Lincoln as a role model. Not only did Lincoln vastly expand the power of the federal government — up to and including suspending habeas — he also was the first president to impose an income tax. Worse, it was a progressive income tax, that charged wealthier taxpayers more.
Obviously, it’s not fair to suggest all of the far-right activists attending Tea Parties were as confused as the strange folks CNN talked to in Chicago, but the “movement” has a long way to go if these guys were in any way representative of the whole.
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:30 pm
Bet Kell has dreams of Obumma morphing with Romney in to one evil, and shafting him just the same.
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:31 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:22 pm
Riff: JaMarcus was in a bad situation. So what? Go look at some of the crap teams Bartkowski and Archie Manning and Sonny Jurgensen and so forth played on. Yet they found a way to be good quarterbacks. JaMarcus didn’t even try.
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Complete bullsht! This “didn’t try” has gotten very old. Says who? Unsubstanciated internet rumors about blank dvds?? Newsflash: It never happened! Teams make QBs. Organizations that do it the right way end up with damn good QBs. The Giants, Colts and Packers are all great examples. Alex Smith was doomed till Harbaugh showed up. Sam Bradford was getting screwed by all the coaching chages and lack of weapons around him, but now it looks like there’s stability there for him so he should be fine. A damn good supporting cast was waiting for Cam Newton and Andy Dalton and look how things are turning out for them. The truth is, we’ll never really know how good JR could have been here because our organization fcked it up!
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:31 pm
RaiderRiff,
I agree that repeating the “eye for an eye” cycle does no good, but i have to add that i really don’t recall JC even getting much vitriol from the Raider faithful.
Most criticism i’ve seen revolves around him checking down all the time or a perceived unwillingness on his part to “go for it”.
I think alot of guys here have given him credit for being a good teammate and a solid game manager.
It’s not so much criticism per se to suggest he was never the type of QB that could take us to the SB.
He just isn’t “THAT guy”.
He finally atoned for that infamous “Tennessee Slide” by taking that hit against Cleveland(?)..too bad his atonement cost him his life as a starting QB in the NFL.
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:37 pm
TxRaider210 Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:30 pm
Bet Kell has dreams of Obumma morphing with Romney in to one evil, and shafting him just the same.
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I’m way to informed to go for something that stupid. History tells me that the only 2 balanced budgets since the 70’s came from Dems Carter & Clinton. All in between and since have been deficits.
Bet you didn’t know that.
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:40 pm
I agree DJ Johnny.
He wasnt “that guy”. Im not faulting anyone for that. I never really brought up JC in my original rant. Debo did in his explanation for why he got into the bashing. I commend him for being honest.
But JC did get caught up in the whole Gradkowski love affair as the Grad fans really took it to the JC fans.
After Grads was shown the door, the JC fans in turn began to hate on CP3.
Funny thing is now that Grads is gone, all that hate has been spun onto Leinart. And if you asked most sensible fans, they probably wish we never got rid of Grads and he was here instead of Leinart. Heck, with Grads we never would have had Boller playing last year and we probably make the playoffs as Grads could have held onto things until CP3 was really ready.
See how hindsight does wonders? But I digress. The point is the vicious cycle needs to stop. We are more dysfunctional here than Al was with his coaching staff and it really drags things down.
It’s got me very close to starting a Raider blog of my own. Limiting membership to people who just want to talk real football. I’d make a section for offtopic/politics and whatnot. And I’d pluck talented semi pros from here to join us. And any and all news I’d just repost there since that is all Cork does here 95% of the time anyways.
I wanna talk football with intelligent REAL fans that can debate things like adults. And by my count, there’s less than 20 here but it would be nice to not have to sift thru all the crap just to read the quality posts.
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:41 pm
Bet you didn’t know your savior has locked up/killed more minorities then Ron Paul has.
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:41 pm
I’ll give JC credit that he was able to beat the most hated rivals of Raider fans…the teams in the Afc West.
I liked him well enough, but I like Carson Palmer more.
There are very few QB’s who aren’t Raiders that I actually like and/or root for. Palmer has always been one of ‘em.
Palmer was able to post those killer numbers from ‘05-’07 and did it in Cinci-freaking-natti. Imagine if he would’ve played for GB or New England…..or even Dallas or NYG.
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:42 pm
Peace out Nation! Hoping for good practice notes tomorrow!
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:42 pm
than*
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:43 pm
You People who live out in the boonies with limited exposure to other people are brainwashed all day by Rush Limbaugh
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:44 pm
I hate Limbaugh kell, just like you hate whites.
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:46 pm
I think the more important question is KoolKell stated he has two homes in escrow.
Not one. TWO!!
Yet checking his “listings” we get the exact same thing that has been on there for going on over two years.
Listings offered by Michael Kelly
0 matching properties were found!
Displaying Page 0 of 0
Can someone explain this??
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:47 pm
I apologize for for talking politics on a football blog.
But when I hear statist crap, I just can’t help myself.
The Raiders will win the division. Rest easy Nation.
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:48 pm
TxRaider210 Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:44 pm
I hate Limbaugh kell, just like you hate whites.
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Why do you think I hate whites, because I’m a Democrat?
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:49 pm
Forget that Koolkell. We all know the answer.
So, preseason? Is that happeneing? Hard to tell on this board
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:49 pm
Oh I see, you don’t hate Limbaugh. You had me for a sec. Lol.
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:50 pm
Riff,
I see what you’re saying.
You bring up the Grads thing and yes..it sure woulda been nice to have him backing up JC last yr. Would Grads have been able to win the division? Would we have been better off with Grads instead of Palmer coming in? What were they thinking with Boller? Anyway, the flip side is it led to us getting Palmer.
I’m a card carrying member of the Palmer fan club right now. I like the way he plays as a QB and I love the way he “comports” himself too.
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:51 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:31 pm
I think alot of guys here have given him credit for being a good teammate and a solid game manager.
It’s not so much criticism per se to suggest he was never the type of QB that could take us to the SB.
He just isn’t “THAT guy”.
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I disagree with this. I think JC is exactly the kind of guy who can lead us to the SB. Tom Brady led the Pats to SB championships as a game manager, not as the record-breaking superstar he’s been the last few years. Possessing the ball and limiting turnovers will take you a long way in the NFL and JC did a hell of a job at both. Not to mention the fact that he came up big late in a lot of games. Funny thing is that our chances this year will depend a lot on Greg Knapp’s ability to get Palmer to do his best JC impersonation. I’ll always wonder what would have happned if he hadn’t gotten hurt last year.
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:51 pm
Godfather,
It’s been a looong offseason.
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:51 pm
Saw Russells name.
where is he?
Must show up somewhere
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:55 pm
Anyone that’s still making excuses for, or trying to blame JaMoron’s complete failure on the Raiders, or the circumstances he played under – simply doesn’t have a clue.
The proof is obvious. He’s unemployed at an age when he should be in his prime. Not even a sniff from a single NFL team, in an era when GMs are falling over themselves trying to find a decent QB or backup.
The JaMoron supporters and excuse makers just can’t get this simple reality through their thick skulls.
They’re might be as dumb as JaMoron.
As for critiquing Gannon for his noodle arm – it’s an accurate criticism. An all-world field general that could have been an all-time great, but was limited by his lack of arm strength.
Just the facts.
The idea that Raider fans should be above pointing out player deficiencies and discussing them here is absurd.
Even if I consider the criticism unfounded and the harsh analysis of a Raider player incorrect, I don’t tell other Raider fans to quit posting or to go root for the Mules.
Get a grip.
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:56 pm
agree Riff. Way too long.
Just saw a commercial for raiders first preseason game.
Worth a HELLYA
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:57 pm
Raiders to the Superbowl!
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:58 pm
JR would have failed playing qb on every SB team.
Guaranteed.
Because he’s lazy, and doesn’t care.
That’s it. there you go. End of story.
If you don’t even bother to learn the playbook?
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:59 pm
SB Tx?
Dare I dream
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:59 pm
242. DJ Johnny
I think Grads could have come in and and done better than Palmer did initially. I would have given Palmer a easier transition into the starting role. And I dont think it would have prevented Hue from bringing in Palmer. At least I hope it wouldnt have.
Grads couldnt stay healthy long enough to take us deep into the playoffs Im afraid. I loved the guy but with Palmer we have a elite level QB.
We’ve only had a few “real QBs” in our franchises history. Palmer is one of them.
Lamonica
Stabler
Plunkett
Marinovich (too bad he was already knee deep in sabotaging his career by the time we drafted him)
Hostetler
George (the guy may have been a colosal d!ck, but he could play, no denying that)
Gannon
CP3
I got high hopes for CP3 just like you. And if TP continues to work his butt off, I’ll be adding him to that list one day.
August 2nd, 2012 at 7:01 pm
KoolKell loves the state as long as his party of choice is in charge. He wants to be on the winning side. A typical fascist.
August 2nd, 2012 at 7:04 pm
99,
Gannon was limited? Wow. He played like all-time great when he was with us. Put his numbers up against any all-time greats and tell me again how he was limited? Go look at his MVP year and tell me what having a stronger arm would have done for him that he wasnt already doing?
I ask again, are you sure youre a Raider fan?
There is a big difference between pointing out player deficiencies and downright disrespecting one of our guys. Your assesment of Gannon is a prime example.
Gannon….deficient………wow. Any real Raider fan would give anything to have that “deficient” QB back under center.
August 2nd, 2012 at 7:04 pm
KoolKell Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:43 pm
You People who live out in the boonies with limited exposure to other people are brainwashed all day by Rush Limbaugh
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I live in the boonies and I used to think Rush Limbaugh was some kind of cheese from Holland, then one of my boonie friends told me who he was so I listened to him. He was making fun fun of the Clintons’ daughter. I said to myself, thats messed up for a man to talk about a child like that. Then I saw a picture of him and that explained that. He looks like humpty dumpty strung out on speed, and someone who eats an awful amount of pastries when he’s not on speed. I know it doesn’t add up, but thats the impression I got of him. I also noticed he had a tremendous amount of diareha dripping out of his mouth, but it did not seem to bother him as he just kept licking his lip. T
August 2nd, 2012 at 7:04 pm
Twocents Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 7:01 pm
KoolKell loves the state as long as his party of choice is in charge. He wants to be on the winning side. A typical fascist.
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C’mon man. fascist? Me? You people throw words around you heard on the am Radio……
August 2nd, 2012 at 7:08 pm
Limbaughs making a killing spewing that schit.
August 2nd, 2012 at 7:08 pm
Then I heard Limbaugh was strung out on hydrocodone. Like a lot of them a day. That would explain the red face. What a strange cat. So Kell, you can live in the city too and still be a fan of Limbaugh, not all boonies give a rats ass about shіt disturbers. We boonies work hard and play easy and there is quite the Raidah contingent round here.
Peace
August 2nd, 2012 at 7:10 pm
Alright Bro Green.
August 2nd, 2012 at 7:11 pm
I believe this is what Rush is lookin like these days.
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/pictures/view/58073/
August 2nd, 2012 at 7:11 pm
Oh, and by the way, I’m usually diametrically opposed to KK’s political views.
But he is correct about Ron Paul being a racist and a neo-Nazi.
I find much of Paul’s economic policy appealing and credible. I like his libertarian lean.
But he’s still a racist douche.
He’d also be a non-interventionist, isolationist foreign policy disaster.
Outside of the rabid Ron Paul cultists, there’s very little support for him. With good reason.
August 2nd, 2012 at 7:14 pm
KoolKell, you are educated but you are educated by the state. You have never been taught to think critically.
You have never studied fascism, so you have no idea what it really is.
To you it means Hitler, but you are too lame to see that the U.S. is a fascist state.
August 2nd, 2012 at 7:16 pm
http://www.snopes.com/photos/politics/ronpaul.asp
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still beats this dude
August 2nd, 2012 at 7:19 pm
I’ve been to University, Navy, and around the world. I was readin Neitche at the age of 12. I think for my self, bro.
I see democratic govt, as legitimate, not as some occupying state. It’s up to us to make it better. Like life
August 2nd, 2012 at 7:21 pm
still want someone to explain how koolkell can have two listings, as he stated, when the web site shows no listings?
how about you, koolkell? want to give it a shot?
August 2nd, 2012 at 7:22 pm
http://www.therushforum.com/index.php?showtopic=10903&st=3000&#entry372062
Kell, here is a picture of Rush trying to make an honest buck during his college days.
August 2nd, 2012 at 7:24 pm
http://www.dumb.com/m_pictures/58e023285dc5289b75e3ce4a8c35482a.jpg
New defination for taking it up the ass.
August 2nd, 2012 at 7:24 pm
Democracy is a good invention. Invented by the state so that dumb asses could say “we are the government”
Have you ever pondered the atrocities this government does in your name?
August 2nd, 2012 at 7:24 pm
Godfather Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 7:21 pm
still want someone to explain how koolkell can have two listings, as he stated, when the web site shows no listings?
how about you, koolkell? want to give it a shot?
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Stalkers.
August 2nd, 2012 at 7:26 pm
You stalkers need to get a life. seriously.
August 2nd, 2012 at 7:29 pm
I posted to numerous dif ppl, and Koolkell considers a post to him as stalking?
Does this mean you aren’t going to answer? Or are you going to man-up and admit you lied about having not one, but two listings?
August 2nd, 2012 at 7:30 pm
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_xwE0rBDpg1Y/So7ZPAuCCsI/AAAAAAAAEPA/BV1Dp1IViVw/s400/ouch-bullfighter-sore-backside-rammed-bull-funny-pic.jpg
August 2nd, 2012 at 7:32 pm
KoolKell, were you the “government” when Bush got the “Patriot Act” passed? Are you the government now?
Has your “Dear Leader” revoked that piece of crp?
No, he has merely increased the power of the Executive Branch. Wake up!
August 2nd, 2012 at 7:32 pm
I think I’m in love with Penny from Big Bang.
Penny? If you read that, call me.
August 2nd, 2012 at 7:36 pm
99,
Gannon was limited? Wow. He played like all-time great when he was with us. Put his numbers up against any all-time greats and tell me again how he was limited? Go look at his MVP year and tell me what having a stronger arm would have done for him that he wasnt already doing?
I ask again, are you sure youre a Raider fan?
There is a big difference between pointing out player deficiencies and downright disrespecting one of our guys. Your assesment of Gannon is a prime example.
Gannon….deficient………wow. Any real Raider fan would give anything to have that “deficient” QB back under center.
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Riff, are you disputing Gannon had a weaker than average arm and that that hindered his game ?
If so, you simply don’t know football.
And sorry to tell you this, although Gannon had some great years and stats with the Raids, he’s not even close to being considered an all-time great.
Pointing out Gannon’s subpar arm strength and acknowledging that this was a deficiency, is not disrespectful either.
Calling Gannon a noodle arm might be a slight exaggeration, but it’s not done out of spite or to be unnecessarily disrespectful.
One can appreciate Gannon’s overall game and stellar performances, while acknowledging his arm strength was a hinderance.
You’re questioning whether I’m a Raider fan ?
You must be new to this blog.
I don’t question whether you’re a fan, but I have my doubts about your football acumen.
August 2nd, 2012 at 7:39 pm
Twocents Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 7:32 pm
KoolKell, were you the “government” when Bush got the “Patriot Act” passed? Are you the government now?
Has your “Dear Leader” revoked that piece of crp?
No, he has merely increased the power of the Executive Branch. Wake up!
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You probably voted for Bush
August 2nd, 2012 at 7:40 pm
Have you ever gone to a party and been introduced to a doctor.
After a hardy handshake, you discover he’s a proctologist. Even wash-
ing your hands 6 times, you still find yourself only eating with your
left hand. He is the one doctor you never ask for free advice, “Doc,
I’ve got this thing right here, can you take a look at it? But he’s
one person who’s seen more ass holes than you’d find at a political
convention.
August 2nd, 2012 at 7:45 pm
KoolKell, all your intellect can see is either Dems. or Reps. I am trying to point out that they are the same side of the coin.
You are as ignorant as a modern man can be.
August 2nd, 2012 at 7:46 pm
http://www.raiders.com/news/blogs/article-1/Michael-Huffs-2012-Training-Camp-Blog/4164a138-3a6d-4395-89c8-ac032c1f98b0
August 2nd, 2012 at 7:47 pm
Twocents Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:21 pm
Seymour, you are as lame as KoolKell.
What has he done? The idiocy of that statement astounds me.
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Notice how he didn’t name one thing that Paul has actually accomplished.
August 2nd, 2012 at 7:47 pm
Tell me how ignorant I am, 2 cents………….l
August 2nd, 2012 at 7:49 pm
Yeah, question my football acumen all you want. Youre the one who says that Gannon was a deficient QB. I could care less about arm strength. Al Davis cared about arm strength. The same guy who traded away the Snake, had Plunkett on the bench til an injury brought him in to save our ‘83 season, tried to bring Jeff George back when he was like 52 years old, and thought it was a good idea to rotate coaches during a raw QB’s (Jamarcus’) intro to the NFL. If having a high football acumen like you puts me in that camp, I’ll sit with all the dunces then.
I’ll say it again, put his years with us up against any other QB’s. His 2002 year is on par with any QB’s season in history. His MVP award speaks for itself.
Without Gannon we would have 20 years of underachievement instead of just 11. So quickly some of us forget.
Calling Gannon’s arm a noodle isnt just an exaggeration, it is disrespect. It’s something you’d never say to his face. Only behind a keyboard.
Kerry Collins had a great arm. How’d that work out for us? Im sure you were one of those people (and their were plenty) that was glad when Collins finally got the starting job.
Here’s the real kicker though…
Youre the one bagging on the best QB we ever had. Im the one defending him. Tell me who looks like the Raider fan and who doesnt?
And with that, Im done for the day. Maybe longer. The day I gotta stick up for Gannon on a Raider blog is the day I gotta take a longer break from the blog.
August 2nd, 2012 at 7:50 pm
This country would be a whole lot better if you got the money out of elections.
August 2nd, 2012 at 7:51 pm
Wow!
Where is the zookeeper?
August 2nd, 2012 at 7:53 pm
Kell….what is the anger all about man? Why oh why must you for the last few hours talk about politics when training camp is on and crackin? Tomorrow the Raider base will be in full effect in Napa….you are suppose to be there and Ron Paul and Rush Limbaugh is all you have to talk about?
How about our rookie Jack Crawford?
What do you think about Burris being a possible blitzing beast for us this year?
What do you think about the battle for backup RB behind DMAC?
Anything man?
August 2nd, 2012 at 7:53 pm
KoolKell Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 7:50 pm
This country would be a whole lot better if you got the money out of elections.
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It would also be a whole lot better if there was actual competition in the economy. There isn’t.
August 2nd, 2012 at 7:54 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:31 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:22 pm
Riff: JaMarcus was in a bad situation. So what? Go look at some of the crap teams Bartkowski and Archie Manning and Sonny Jurgensen and so forth played on. Yet they found a way to be good quarterbacks. JaMarcus didn’t even try.
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Complete bullsht! This “didn’t try” has gotten very old. Says who? Unsubstanciated internet rumors about blank dvds?? Newsflash: It never happened! Teams make QBs. Organizations that do it the right way end up with damn good QBs. The Giants, Colts and Packers are all great examples. Alex Smith was doomed till Harbaugh showed up. Sam Bradford was getting screwed by all the coaching chages and lack of weapons around him, but now it looks like there’s stability there for him so he should be fine. A damn good supporting cast was waiting for Cam Newton and Andy Dalton and look how things are turning out for them. The truth is, we’ll never really know how good JR could have been here because our organization fcked it up!
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Zach Miller, 2010: “It’s so wonderful to finally have a starting quarterback [Jason Campbell] who knows the entire playbook FOR A CHANGE.”
If #2 was such a wonderful quarterback caught in such a terrible situation, why has no other team signed him? What about that “bidding war” you said was going to develop over his “services?” Instead, he’s just sitting at home, eating cheeseburgers and talking to his loser buddies at that barbershop in the SI article.
The fact is that Russell didn’t want to improve, didn’t want to get better, and had no interest in trying. I remember Jerry Mac reporting that when Gradkowski got hurt in that one game and Russell was sent back in, his teammates perceptibly SLUMPED. Why? Because they knew that for all of Gradkowski’s numerous faults, he’d at least try to win the game. Russell never cared about anything more than the buffet line, his paycheck and his next Purple Drank fix.
August 2nd, 2012 at 7:55 pm
Uh oh, here’s the rest of the cast.
August 2nd, 2012 at 7:57 pm
Kell…talk Raiders…hell talk A’s…..talk Warriors….schit even talk bzies if you will…all of that is better than talking about politics when sports is in hot demand!…its Aug 2nd….we have a game aug 13th! I think you need to focus your posts on that since you know a good part of this blog wont agree with your view on politics….real talk…no one gives a schit and the politicians you love to blast and defend dont give a rat’s ass about your opinion…
You have excellent football knowledge….so please put that on display and leave that other crap alone…you wanna talk politics? Hey go sign up and be apart of Dems campaign…they have spots all over Oakland…it wont be that hard
August 2nd, 2012 at 7:58 pm
Seymour, you are like the typical politician. If you haven’t passed some ridiculous legislation, well then you haven’t done anything.
Ron Paul has stood alone against every unconstitutional piece of crp that your heroes have passed.
Are you benefitting at the expense of the taxpayers?
I think so. Fascist bastard.
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:00 pm
KoolKell Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 7:55 pm
Uh oh, here’s the rest of the cast.
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This is exactly what I’m talking about Michael……you really have no rebuttal to post 284…so what do you do? Label others as apart of the cast…..guess what? You are apart of the cast your damn self
Talk sports old man….your bitter beer face campaign is old
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:00 pm
Brien, I’ll talk what I want to talk. Ok youngster?
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:01 pm
Raider Riff Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:27 pm
Then again, you were probably one of those who were happy to see Randy Moss go. I suppose it was his fault as well? (rhetorical question, dont answer please)
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Randy Moss, for all his talent, is a miserable human being who played like garbage during his time here. The reason we only got a fourth-round pick for him is because no team other than New England would even give up that much. There was serious speculation about whether Moss would be a pre-season cut by the Pats that year.
Snapshot of Randy Moss’ Raiders tenure: Opening game, 2006 against San Diego. Aaron Brooks throws a deep incompletion to (I think) Ronald Curry. The camera pans over to an uncovered Moss, jumping up and down and waving his hands. Everybody thinks Brooks screwed the pooch until the replay hits. The replay shows Moss being covered like a blanket until the pass is thrown. Moss’ DB breaks for the ball on the other side of the field. Moss then proceeds to stop in his tracks and start jumping up and down and waving his hands. In other words, he wasn’t open, but just wanted to make his QB look bad.
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:01 pm
The times they are a changing. I can’t believe I haven’t been moderated!
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:01 pm
Ron Paul a Raider supporter? He coming to RNC next weekend?
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:04 pm
B@uce!.. Have a great time visiting camp tomorrow… wish I could go.
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:04 pm
Twocents Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 7:58 pm
Seymour, you are like the typical politician. If you haven’t passed some ridiculous legislation, well then you haven’t done anything.
Ron Paul has stood alone against every unconstitutional piece of crp that your heroes have passed.
Are you benefitting at the expense of the taxpayers?
I think so. Fascist bastard.
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Twocents I asked you a very simple question. You responded by foaming at the mouth, going into the fetal position and sh**ting yourself. And you want anyone to believe you have any insight into anything? Sucks to be you.
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:08 pm
Raider Riff Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 7:49 pm
Yeah, question my football acumen all you want. Youre the one who says that Gannon was a deficient QB. I could care less about arm strength. Al Davis cared about arm strength. The same guy who traded away the Snake, had Plunkett on the bench til an injury brought him in to save our ‘83 season, tried to bring Jeff George back when he was like 52 years old, and thought it was a good idea to rotate coaches during a raw QB’s (Jamarcus’) intro to the NFL. If having a high football acumen like you puts me in that camp, I’ll sit with all the dunces then.
I’ll say it again, put his years with us up against any other QB’s. His 2002 year is on par with any QB’s season in history. His MVP award speaks for itself.
Without Gannon we would have 20 years of underachievement instead of just 11. So quickly some of us forget.
Calling Gannon’s arm a noodle isnt just an exaggeration, it is disrespect. It’s something you’d never say to his face. Only behind a keyboard.
Kerry Collins had a great arm. How’d that work out for us? Im sure you were one of those people (and their were plenty) that was glad when Collins finally got the starting job.
Here’s the real kicker though…
Youre the one bagging on the best QB we ever had. Im the one defending him. Tell me who looks like the Raider fan and who doesnt?
And with that, Im done for the day. Maybe longer. The day I gotta stick up for Gannon on a Raider blog is the day I gotta take a longer break from the blog.
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Riff, I never said Gannon was a deficient QB.
I merely pointed out that his lack of arm strength was a deficiency.
I acknowledge Gannon was a fabulous field general, a hard nosed competitor and that he had some excellent years and great stats.
Despite all your hyperbole, Gannon was not an all-time great. Not even close. Sorry.
Here’s something to think about while you take your blog hiatus.
Gannon might have been an all-time great, if he had a better arm.
I’ve got to go now too. Take care.
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:08 pm
Twocents Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 5:45 pm
I have an acquaintance that was an Army Ranger and served in Iraq and Afghanistan. I asked him “why do you risk your life to serve this corrupt, totalitarian regime?” He said he just wanted to be on the winning side.
This is what we are up against.
I don’t understand the reverence for the military.
These guy will kill Americans just as easily as they kill Arabs.
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You asked a question like that and you were surprised by the smartass answer you got?
Really?
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:10 pm
Barry Hussein supporters:
-Hugo Chavez
-Red China
-Bill Maher
-KK
-MR
-Illegal Aliens
-Socialist
-Marxist
-Welfare recipients
-Seymour Bush
-Food stamp recipients
-Tax takers
-Occupy movement
-Union thugs
-Crony capitalist
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:11 pm
KoolKell Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:00 pm
Brien, I’ll talk what I want to talk. Ok youngster?
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Michael…its funny…you referred to me and Mista as blog bullies yet you have hurled the worse insults to people and you did it today talking on ppl who live in the boonies….let me inform ya on some things….city burbs or rural…it all balances out….so you are no better than anyone who posts on here….got that?
Yeah I’m a youngster….so what? What good is being 60 acting like a 12 year old?
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:13 pm
Brien, all you have to do is scroll by if the convo doesn’t concern you
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:13 pm
PlunkforHOF Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:04 pm
B@uce!.. Have a great time visiting camp tomorrow… wish I could go.
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Oh yeah for sure I shall…taking the original Raider from the dixon family….grandpa was there for first game ever at Kezar in SF and he use to go to Santa rosa training camp all the time…he is pumped as I!
I’ll prolly run into Kell which will be very interesting…I’m not provoking anything…I only wanna come to a common ground and see why he is so damn angry all the damn time
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:14 pm
KK Chick Fil A, did you know?
Gallup poll…
12 states – think Barry Hussein is doing a good job.
37 states – think Barry Hussein is a failure.
Of course California is one of the 12…
mope & change
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:15 pm
You Stalker/Groupies really need to get a life.
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:16 pm
KoolKell Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:13 pm
Brien, all you have to do is scroll by if the convo doesn’t concern you
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You are a hypocrite….why havent you taken that advice over the years concerning my posts?….damn scrolling up because I know what you are all about…and its not alot
When mista or anyone else discusses something you dont like you chime in when you werent even mentioned….any explanation for that?
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:16 pm
B,
He also referred to us as the same person. KK has a mental disorder, obviously.
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Method To My Madness Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:11 pm
Michael…its funny…you referred to me and Mista as blog bullies
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:17 pm
KoolKell Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:15 pm
You Stalker/Groupies really need to get a life.
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So when your sources claimed I was in jail back 2 years ago when I didnt post for months…you werent stalking?
Seems like you would need to get a life if you went through all that effort to find out about lower tax bracket Brien
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:17 pm
Seymour, nice try. If you could actually read, you would see that I defended Ron Paul by stating that he was doing “something” by opposing unconstitutional crap that you think is “progress”.
Just because your mob rules doesn’t make you right.
You would support Hitler as long as it put money in your pocket, wouldn,t you?
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:18 pm
You are blog bullie wannabe’s
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:19 pm
KK Chick Fil A, I bet your father is ashamed & embarrassed of you.
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:19 pm
MistaBrown Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:16 pm
B,
He also referred to us as the same person. KK has a mental disorder, obviously.
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Method To My Madness Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:11 pm
Michael…its funny…you referred to me and Mista as blog bullies
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Its sad because he should be way above this at 60 years of age….I actually feel sorry for the guy to tell you the truth….but its fine….we will watch the A’s and Raiders make the rest of the 2012 calendar year memorable while Kell is still mad about something that happened 30 years ago
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:20 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:17 pm
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So when your sources claimed I was in jail back 2 years ago when I didnt post for months…you werent stalking?
Seems like you would need to get a life if you went through all that effort to find out about lower tax bracket Brien
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You’ve been obsessed with me ever since, huh?
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:21 pm
KoolKell Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:18 pm
You are blog bullie wannabe’s
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Really? So when you and I started to not see eye to eye on things…who threatened to slap who in San Leandro? Who made the challenge first in 2008?
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:21 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:17 pm
KoolKell Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:15 pm
You Stalker/Groupies really need to get a life.
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So when your sources claimed I was in jail back 2 years ago when I didnt post for months…you werent stalking?
Seems like you would need to get a life if you went through all that effort to find out about lower tax bracket Brien
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Zing. Ah, the hypocrisy. KK can’t get a win today.
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:22 pm
KoolKell Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:20 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:17 pm
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So when your sources claimed I was in jail back 2 years ago when I didnt post for months…you werent stalking?
Seems like you would need to get a life if you went through all that effort to find out about lower tax bracket Brien
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You’ve been obsessed with me ever since, huh?
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Obsessed? Kell you were the one on this blog claiming you knew I was in jail…who is obsessed with who?
Man let it go….arent you tired after all these years?
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:23 pm
Cross-posting again? Lol
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:23 pm
Why don’t you let go and leave me the fk alone?
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:24 pm
B,
I dont know how you can resist socking him in fat ignorant grill in Napa. You have more will than I do if thats the case.
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:24 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:05 pm
Raider Riff Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:01 pm
Rob, I dont want to get into a major debate of Jamarcus. You guys are missing my point.
Try and see the forrest from the trees on this one.
But I’ll take the Jamarcuss bait one more time.
- He was clutch. He always was good in the 4th quarter. As advertised in college. How many games did our chitty defensive scheme lose us in the 4th after he rallied? A lot.
- He had the worst receiving core in football. And to make matters worse, all of the receivers were at least .3 seconds faster on their 40 yard dash times than the guys Jamarcus was used to throwing to in college. You guys have no idea how difficult it is to throw to a guy who runs a 4.3 or faster. Jerry Rice ran a 4.7 I believe, and QB’s never missed him, they were always on target.
- Coaching carousel: When does this work in the NFL? Basically 3 coaches in 4 years. Yeah, that was Jamarcus’ fault.
These players make it to the NFL for a reason. They played for coaches and systems that fit their skillsets. When they come to the pros and fail, 9 times out of 10 its because they went to the wrong system or got poor development coaching or werent given enough time. There is a reason why some teams are drafting in the top 10 every year, its because they are a dysfunctional mess and a revolving door for coaches. We were one of those teams. You cannot fault players for that. You can only praise the guys who somehow managed to persevere in that environment.
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Wow! I hope some of you clowns are taking notes. Been preaching this for years on this board. It’s really very simple.
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RaiderDuck Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:22 pm
Riff: JaMarcus was in a bad situation. So what? Go look at some of the crap teams Bartkowski and Archie Manning and Sonny Jurgensen and so forth played on. Yet they found a way to be good quarterbacks. JaMarcus didn’t even try.
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August 2nd, 2012 at 8:24 pm
GForce21 Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:21 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:17 pm
KoolKell Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:15 pm
You Stalker/Groupies really need to get a life.
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So when your sources claimed I was in jail back 2 years ago when I didnt post for months…you werent stalking?
Seems like you would need to get a life if you went through all that effort to find out about lower tax bracket Brien
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Zing. Ah, the hypocrisy. KK can’t get a win today.
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G…you and I have gotten into it before…but it has been all Raider related…now I’ll admit I dive off from Raiders sometimes more than the norm but whats the point in predominantly talking about race and politics? More division
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:25 pm
Obsessed? Kell you were the one on this blog claiming you knew I was in jail…who is obsessed with who?
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And you never insulted me?
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:25 pm
KK Munsters wife left him 10 or more years ago and he hasn’t recovered. Are you tellin me a married man is on this blog 18hrs a day?
lmfao
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:25 pm
Wish I lived out there..I’d be hitting up every home game, events and practices!
You going B?
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:26 pm
KoolKell Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:23 pm
Cross-posting again? Lol
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Not once have I ever cross posted on this site and you know it….you are reaching for anything becuz you know you have been exposed as a liar
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:27 pm
MistaBrown Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:25 pm
KK Munsters wife left him 10 or more years ago and he hasn’t recovered. Are you tellin me a married man is on this blog 18hrs a day?
lmfao
————- HahaHahahaHahahahahahaha sooooooo funny. Dimwit.
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:27 pm
KoolKell Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:23 pm
Why don’t you let go and leave me the fk alone?
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Huh? I been let go I even called a truce that you broke….we got the archives to prove you wait until i post and then mention me when Im gone…this has been for about 4 years now
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:28 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:24 pm
GForce21 Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:21 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:17 pm
KoolKell Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:15 pm
You Stalker/Groupies really need to get a life.
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So when your sources claimed I was in jail back 2 years ago when I didnt post for months…you werent stalking?
Seems like you would need to get a life if you went through all that effort to find out about lower tax bracket Brien
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Zing. Ah, the hypocrisy. KK can’t get a win today.
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G…you and I have gotten into it before…but it has been all Raider related…now I’ll admit I dive off from Raiders sometimes more than the norm but whats the point in predominantly talking about race and politics? More division
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Agreed, I think you are being more than reasonable with KK. Almost to the point of extending the old olive branch. Not sure what the deal is with him.
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:28 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:26 pm
KoolKell Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:23 pm
Cross-posting again? Lol
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Not once have I ever cross posted on this site and you know it….you are reaching for anything becuz you know you have been exposed as a liar
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You and that goon,, just quit obsessing over me, and get a life.
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:29 pm
MistaBrown Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:24 pm
B,
I dont know how you can resist socking him in fat ignorant grill in Napa. You have more will than I do if thats the case.
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Come on…I’m not going to Napa to fight some bitter 60 year old man who cant seem to get a grasp on happiness…we can surely talk out our difference as adults but if he doesnt then he is an even bigger loser than I thought
See an ass whipping wont help Kell….people like him prolly enjoy the punches and boots to the face
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:31 pm
KoolKell Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:25 pm
Obsessed? Kell you were the one on this blog claiming you knew I was in jail…who is obsessed with who?
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And you never insulted me?
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Of course I did in retaliation of your constant attacks on me….remember you started it first and then I embarrassed you 1000000000000 times after…….then I even extended my hand to let bygones be bygones….and what did you do? Exactly
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:31 pm
looks good! The Raiders were a few plays from being a playoff team last year. Ask for more from them this year but expect nothing less.I smell Football in the air.
Raiders Be With You
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:32 pm
I never seen a man talk about stalkers until I came on this site and witnessed this Herman Munster lookalike.
Dude is a pitiful piece of garbage…
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:33 pm
R8eray Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:25 pm
Wish I lived out there..I’d be hitting up every home game, events and practices!
You going B?
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If the laws of nature allow me I shall…Friday in Napa….next Sunday in downtown Oakland and all games!
Dont worry Ray..I know you are real even tho you are LA to the core lol…but I know you down for the cause cuz I met ya and enjoyed ya bruh….our team got some issues but we shall overcome them this year…and i know you shooting up there this time
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:34 pm
GForce21 Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:28 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:24 pm
GForce21 Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:21 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:17 pm
KoolKell Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:15 pm
You Stalker/Groupies really need to get a life.
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So when your sources claimed I was in jail back 2 years ago when I didnt post for months…you werent stalking?
Seems like you would need to get a life if you went through all that effort to find out about lower tax bracket Brien
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Zing. Ah, the hypocrisy. KK can’t get a win today.
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G…you and I have gotten into it before…but it has been all Raider related…now I’ll admit I dive off from Raiders sometimes more than the norm but whats the point in predominantly talking about race and politics? More division
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Agreed, I think you are being more than reasonable with KK. Almost to the point of extending the old olive branch. Not sure what the deal is with him.
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I hope to find out tomorrow what is his deal….its just crazy he can act like this becuz he prolly has more football knowledge than anyone on this site except some of the few OGs
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:36 pm
My deal is always what I’ve said it was, period.
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:37 pm
C’mon B he said Kelly & Seymours job isn’t stopping the run! Where is the knowledge you are speaking of?
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Method To My Madness Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:34 pm
I hope to find out tomorrow what is his deal….its just crazy he can act like this becuz he prolly has more football knowledge than anyone on this site except some of the few OGs
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:37 pm
2romes Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:31 pm
looks good! The Raiders were a few plays from being a playoff team last year. Ask for more from them this year but expect nothing less.I smell Football in the air.
Raiders Be With You
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Solid post
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:38 pm
KK Chick Fil A, what did you do with your MR sock puppet?
Haven’t seen her in a while now.
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:39 pm
MistaBrown Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:37 pm
C’mon B he said Kelly & Seymours job isn’t stopping the run! Where is the knowledge you are speaking of?
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Method To My Madness Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:34 pm
I hope to find out tomorrow what is his deal….its just crazy he can act like this becuz he prolly has more football knowledge than anyone on this site except some of the few OGs
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LOL ok sans that part….he knows better too because in 2010 he actually agreed with me….he is only saying that now as someone to deflect blame from kelly and seymour to Al
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:40 pm
MistaBrown Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:38 pm
KK Chick Fil A, what did you do with your MR sock puppet?
Haven’t seen her in a while now.
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Maybe you ought to get out of that trailer, and make some friends?
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:40 pm
Didn’t KK fall head over heels over JaMarcus & Campbell?
I rest my case.
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Method To My Madness Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:39 pm
LOL ok sans that part….he knows better too because in 2010 he actually agreed with me….he is only saying that now as someone to deflect blame from kelly and seymour to Al
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:41 pm
KoolKell Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:36 pm
My deal is always what I’ve said it was, period.
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Oh your deal is claiming to slap people? Calling other rednecks and crackers? Talking about people’s parents? Being racist? Not respecting other’s views on politics? How bout lying about facts? How about lying saying someone as in jail when in fact they werent?
Anything….like answers for this Kell?
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:42 pm
I don’t have to answer to you, Brien. I give and I take, what you whinnying about?
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:42 pm
Im killin peppered beef jerky and a margarita on the rocks.
#soFK’ngood
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:42 pm
MistaBrown Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:40 pm
Didn’t KK fall head over heels over JaMarcus & Campbell?
I rest my case.
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Method To My Madness Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:39 pm
LOL ok sans that part….he knows better too because in 2010 he actually agreed with me….he is only saying that now as someone to deflect blame from kelly and seymour to Al
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I stand by JC in his time here….never shoulda been benched in 2010…his problem was taking risks and in this life period you gotta take some risks…but he isnt a Raider so he aint my concern
I told Kell about Russell with my “word on the street”…and he mocked me and said I was a liar….guess who bowed down and admitted I was correct? LOL
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:43 pm
Whoa there. KK has more football knowledge than anyone here? LMFAO! Talk about dropping a bomb, Meth.
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:45 pm
KoolKell Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:42 pm
I don’t have to answer to you, Brien. I give and I take, what you whinnying about?
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Whine? Coming from the known blog snitch? LOL
You need to not only answer to me but to all of the people who love this site but despise you!
See your responses are indicative of a person who knows he is getting slammed and smashed all over the floor
There are many that dont like me and I dont blame them cuz I’m an assh–e fa sho….but more times than not they respect the B@uce and wish you never posted on here
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:45 pm
1st post of the new season.Hey Raiders!!!
Gotta love this blog!Where else can we blog about the
S&B and read about Rush f@@$#ng Limbaugh?
Riff,if you are still around,I love your post about the current squad but have to side with RM99 on his call on Gannon.The man couldn’t beat out Salisbury in Minnesota for the backup QB spot so rode the pines there for years.Stint in Wash and on to the Chefs where he split snaps with Grbac until JoMo arrived as the new Sheriff.Still remember a Chargers game @ Oaktown where Gannon went down late and so did Tui and we are behind 6-0 2 mins left.Wade Wilson comes in and hits Jett,who was 30 yards open, with a bomb to win the game.Gannon was a master at the long handoff and only had Rice and Brown to throw too.Hell NE drafted the dude as a DB.
I don’t believe AD had much time for him or Chucky but as long as the wins kept coming…..AD booted him out of the stadium.
Good D’s as in Baltimore and Tampa just abused us…
they had no deep ball to fear…..The man was never a
Raider and to put him over Lamonica,Stabler or Plunket is not right.Just my opinion but love the Raider spirit.
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:47 pm
Bad News Dude Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:43 pm
Whoa there. KK has more football knowledge than anyone here? LMFAO! Talk about dropping a bomb, Meth.
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I’ve been a Raider fan longer than 99 out of a 100 of ya.
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:47 pm
Bad News Dude Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:43 pm
Whoa there. KK has more football knowledge than anyone here? LMFAO! Talk about dropping a bomb, Meth.
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Than most…I believe he does…I call it like it is…but his issues stem from non football related things….he is off a few times as well are…he just needs to let go of the anger being an AARP card holder is all
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:48 pm
My dawg B went off the tracks with this one but he prob just drinking some drank.
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Bad News Dude Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:43 pm
Whoa there. KK has more football knowledge than anyone here? LMFAO! Talk about dropping a bomb, Meth.
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:49 pm
http://www.theonion.com/articles/peyton-on-beginning-of-manning-era-in-denver-i-wil,29035/
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:49 pm
Doesn’t make you less the imbecile you are.
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KoolKell Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:47 pm
I’ve been a Raider fan longer than 99 out of a 100 of ya.
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:49 pm
Anyways…im watch the rest of this A’s victory…we up 3-0!
And I will get ready for tomorrow….will be a special day with my grandfather…an original Raider who been down since day 1….Napa here comes the B@uce!
Yall stay solid
Code Black 2012
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:50 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:45 pm
KoolKell Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:42 pm
I don’t have to answer to you, Brien. I give and I take, what you whinnying about?
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Whine? Coming from the known blog snitch? LOL
You need to not only answer to me but to all of the people who love this site but despise you!
See your responses are indicative of a person who knows he is getting slammed and smashed all over the floor
There are many that dont like me and I dont blame them cuz I’m an assh–e fa sho….but more times than not they respect the B@uce and wish you never posted on here
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I’ve got a few friends here, and a few more who respect my acumen.
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:52 pm
Well BrownStains, Brien’s gone. Don’t you think it’s time for you to leave, too?
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:52 pm
Acumen
rofl
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:55 pm
I’m watching the A’s, munching on jerky, watching you get your A$$ slammed.
I’ll leave when I feel like it sh!tbird.
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KoolKell Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:52 pm
Well BrownStains, Brien’s gone. Don’t you think it’s time for you to leave, too?
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:56 pm
Blog Brawl!! Good to still see the passion. Everyone has a place here if your a Raider fan.
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:56 pm
You and Brien watching the A’s game in the same body?
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:57 pm
We here in Raiderland have been QB starved for a millennium or at least since donkey john changed his mind at the last second and did not become a Raider.
It’s easy to see why we go nuts over the prospect of a
JRuss or a GGeorge.Hell I’ve been on so many bandwagons
I’ve still got the slithers in my @zz.
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:57 pm
What are you asking dumb kunt?
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KoolKell Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:56 pm
You and Brien watching the A’s game in the same body?
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:59 pm
Lol. geez
August 2nd, 2012 at 9:00 pm
I will close the political crap with this. How do you think it goes down when the state (US Gov) has complete control of everthing you do?
That is where we are today. It didn’t start in the last election, it didn’t start with Bush. It started like a cancer, from the very beginning.
Give rich and powerful men control of your life and you will become a slave.
August 2nd, 2012 at 9:02 pm
KoolKell Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:47 pm
Bad News Dude Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 8:43 pm
Whoa there. KK has more football knowledge than anyone here? LMFAO! Talk about dropping a bomb, Meth.
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I’ve been a Raider fan longer than 99 out of a 100 of ya.
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Only because you were born during prohibition.
August 2nd, 2012 at 9:03 pm
Still here, too!
August 2nd, 2012 at 9:08 pm
HOLLA YAWL
let the nasty roll. just dropped a 9 pound duece, rolled it center mark on the kithchen table. 4 footer and 3 incher. roll baby roll.
IF ITS A LOG YOU KNO ITS FROM THE DOWG
August 2nd, 2012 at 9:08 pm
HOLLA
August 2nd, 2012 at 9:08 pm
HaHA, KrappyRat is still lurking around the blog?
Old Troll, I’ve been gone for 5 hours and you haven’t left?
Pretty sad, old fool. But funny, really funny
BEEECH DIGGITY N FULL EFFECT
August 2nd, 2012 at 9:10 pm
Don’t want to become embroiled in the ‘Bigus dikus’
thingo but KK does have football knowledge even if I
don’t agree him a lot.Older folks have certain advantages.Just my worthless opinion!
August 2nd, 2012 at 9:11 pm
KoolKell Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 9:03 pm
Still here, too!
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Good on ya old fella!
I hope you and Brien work your issues out tomorrow like mature adults.
Seriously.
August 2nd, 2012 at 9:13 pm
Twinkle Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 9:10 pm
Don’t want to become embroiled in the ‘Bigus dikus’
thingo but KK does have football knowledge even if I
don’t agree him a lot.Older folks have certain advantages.Just my worthless opinion!
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My uncle has a pecker rod the size of a drive shaft.
August 2nd, 2012 at 9:15 pm
I’m only 60. and, I’m going to Napa to see the Raiders, not Brien.
August 2nd, 2012 at 9:15 pm
Krappy knows next to nothing about Raider football, idiot
The old Troll has challenged me to debate him on Raiders and everytime the overweight sow runs for the hills
Don’t speak unless you have PMPP permission, wizzle
August 2nd, 2012 at 9:18 pm
There was an old bull that was joined by his soon to be
replacement young stud.Gazing at the herd the young stud said “let’s run down there and f$#k us one of those cows”
The old bull said to the youngster “I have a better idea”
“Lets walk down there and f$#k em all.”
August 2nd, 2012 at 9:20 pm
#374….well that’s truly constructive!
August 2nd, 2012 at 9:26 pm
Well, the blog is in the $hit can, and guess who’s right in the middle of it?
August 2nd, 2012 at 9:27 pm
#372….I’m sorry to hear that….has he found a use for it?I would recommend Hardy Spicer parts…..you know….
less torque.
August 2nd, 2012 at 9:32 pm
For the record I am officially on the CP3 bandwagon.
Gotta be in the record books…..two heisman QB’s from the same school on the the same NFL squad….wish to god AD was here for this one…..I can just see that smile!
August 2nd, 2012 at 9:45 pm
i could care less what people say about NAPALMER ..
he’s every bit as good as Schaub… and he’ll prove it with a better cast of wideouts than HOU … yes they have AJ and Owens… but who beyond that?
DHB Moore Ford Criner Ausberry will sh!t on that all day!
if DMC stays healthy … CP3 will have a jolly old time. who cares if “he isn’t athletic enough for a bootleg”, if he can take a 5 step drop back and dump it to McFadden in the backfield on a blitz… that’s at least 20 yards.
that’s just thing about BSPN and NFLN … they might say they “realize DMC didn’t play with him”, but they’ll never really know for sure how much difference it will make once they see it in action.
August 2nd, 2012 at 9:50 pm
9th place offense with all those injuries and a change in QB’s mid season? LMAO!
the world will find out soon. even if our D only stops 25% more drives and forces 25% more turnovers than last years train wreck, our 32 ppg O will take care of the rest. BANK ON IT! (the defenses on our schedule this year aren’t as beasty as years past IMO)
August 2nd, 2012 at 10:03 pm
Got into a conversation on “storied franchises” with a GB fan. By everyones account GB is a “storied franchise” but they’ve had their dark times just like us.
From ‘67 to ‘94 the Pack made the playoffs TWO (2)times and were playing half their home games away from hallowed Lambeau; splitting time with Milwaukee’s County Stadium.
That’s 27 yrs. with just TWO (2) playoff appearences.
Quite a “dark” age for GB.
Conversely, the Raiders during that same time period made the playoffs (17) times and of course won 3 SB’s.
Since 93…GB’s resurgence…14 playoff appearences compared to the Raiders 3.
My little argument was that OUR dark age wasn’t as bad as theirs, but this is a “what have u done for me lately” world we live in so it is what it is.
NOW is a good time to break out of our “dark age”.
August 2nd, 2012 at 10:09 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:05 pm
Raider Riff Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:01 pm
Rob, I dont want to get into a major debate of Jamarcus. You guys are missing my point.
- He was clutch. He always was good in the 4th quarter. As advertised in college. How many games did our chitty defensive scheme lose us in the 4th after he rallied? A lot.
- He had the worst receiving core in football. And to make matters worse, all of the receivers were at least .3 seconds faster on their 40 yard dash times than the guys Jamarcus was used to throwing to in college. You guys have no idea how difficult it is to throw to a guy who runs a 4.3 or faster. Jerry Rice ran a 4.7 I believe, and QB’s never missed him, they were always on target.
- Coaching carousel: When does this work in the NFL? Basically 3 coaches in 4 years. Yeah, that was Jamarcus’ fault.
These players make it to the NFL for a reason. They played for coaches and systems that fit their skillsets. When they come to the pros and fail, 9 times out of 10 its because they went to the wrong system or got poor development coaching or werent given enough time. There is a reason why some teams are drafting in the top 10 every year, its because they are a dysfunctional mess and a revolving door for coaches. We were one of those teams. You cannot fault players for that. You can only praise the guys who somehow managed to persevere in that environment.
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RaiderDuck Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:22 pm
Riff: JaMarcus was in a bad situation. So what? Go look at some of the crap teams Bartkowski and Archie Manning and Sonny Jurgensen and so forth played on. Yet they found a way to be good quarterbacks. JaMarcus didn’t even try.
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very well said duck. it’s so simple. jamarcus had big talent. but he was lazy, slept in meetings, had a drug habit, and didn’t care to excel at all. and it’s the coaches, al davis, and wr’s that are too fast? no one wanted him when he was released. john lucas bailed on him for being a loser. he’s considered possibly the biggest bust in nfl history by tons of people who know. hanging on to thinking he woulda been good if this, if that, is just ridiculous. the guy was the definition of suck.
August 2nd, 2012 at 10:14 pm
communism was once considered an exciting new thing to believe in. it was gonna change everything. it had many supporters throughout it’s history, but before long it became apparent that it really sucked. it let down everyone who believed in it. most people now know it was doomed to fail. but it does have a handful of supporters who just won’t let go of the idea that it was never given a fair chance or supported properly. it’s likely these people will never look at the proof of it’s massive failure and will blindly hold on to their beliefs no matter what.
everyone agree? pretty true right?
now just fill in jamarcus russell for communism and see if u agree.
August 2nd, 2012 at 10:16 pm
Listen up banana breath. Quit babbling on about your body odor. Anybody who lets strangers in the back door is bound and determined to eminate ass odor like you do.
PPNP in full effect. We don’t care bout no stink. If it skank we take it to the bank.
KEEPIN IT ON THE DOWN LO BRO
August 2nd, 2012 at 10:17 pm
WHAT #1 OVERALL QB DOESNT GO IN A BAD SITUATION ?!
WHY ISNT HE ON ANOTHER TEAM ?!
WHY IS HE 320+ lbs ?!
he won the lotto.
he stopped caring.
he’s a drug addict? how obvious is it besides the fact a case of Codeine was in his house? simple.
he blames ALL HIS PROBLEMS on other people. classic case of a drug addict.
nothing further your honor.
August 2nd, 2012 at 10:21 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:05 pm
Raider Riff Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:01 pm
Rob, I dont want to get into a major debate of Jamarcus. You guys are missing my point.
- He had the worst receiving core in football. And to make matters worse, all of the receivers were at least .3 seconds faster on their 40 yard dash times than the guys Jamarcus was used to throwing to in college. You guys have no idea how difficult it is to throw to a guy who runs a 4.3 or faster. Jerry Rice ran a 4.7 I believe, and QB’s never missed him, they were always on target.
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really? this one is hard for me to take seriously. part of the reason jarassic failed is b/c his wr’s were too fast? we should have slowed it down for him. well, maybe, since he was on codeine. but i’m pretty sure every qb likes having fast wr’s.
jerry rice had joe montana, steve young, and rich gannon throwing to him. he helped them. they helped him.
u should be angry at jarassic. he had talent and got a fat paycheck and then let every raider down, including u, due to his total lack of caring about anyone but himself.
August 2nd, 2012 at 10:23 pm
FaJizzle. Where is the PPNP night time party crew to full effect? We gotta get this thing started.
IH HEY HEY OH MY MY
RUB IT THRICE AND MAKE IT FLY
August 2nd, 2012 at 10:25 pm
Chargrizzle?
August 2nd, 2012 at 10:26 pm
Mouse house in full effect.
August 2nd, 2012 at 10:26 pm
it doesn’t exist moron. why does the guy just never go away? no one ever responds to him. no one ever says he’s funny. he’s so desperate for attention. and obviously gay. he never stops talking to a blog full of guys about his weiner. who does that? i mean it’s classic. constantly talk about ur wang to a bunch of guys and cloak it by saying it’s really about girls. trying so hard to get someone to talk to him so he can jerk it. creepy weirdo.
August 2nd, 2012 at 10:28 pm
hey screeech dog. why do u keep talking to guys about ur little weiner?
lemme guess. u won’t answer but u will say something about giving me a beatdown, even though u don’t actually say anything constituting a beatdown. and then u will say i’m ur minion.
u obviously get excited about saying these things. it turns u on. ur embarrassing.
August 2nd, 2012 at 10:31 pm
To nighttime blogger brahs party nighttime pizza bong crew. Can’t we let JaRizzle rest. Dude, he just doin his thanga thang. It’s all good yall. We puttin it on.
DIZZLE
August 2nd, 2012 at 10:33 pm
can u imagine being forced to be around this guy at his job at the mall? it would drive u insane.
August 2nd, 2012 at 11:06 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:05 pm
He was clutch. He always was good in the 4th quarter. As advertised in college. How many games did our chitty defensive scheme lose us in the 4th after he rallied? A lot.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Raider Debo,
You are missing the point: we don’t care what your point is. If you want to be a worshipper to k of rusty hammers it’s all the same to me. One question: have you ever heard Russell attempt to speak? His was a strange, ghetto-eubonics-intellible slanguage that most could not understand. In the totality of the circumstances he could never play successfully in the NFL, as is well documented.
It’s over Debo. Give yourself and Russell a break. If you need to idolize and worship something that much, I suggest you look inside yourself for what is, that is missing.
August 2nd, 2012 at 11:07 pm
for what is missing *****
August 2nd, 2012 at 11:12 pm
Rob_Raider,
Debo’s reasoning that our WR’s being too fast lead to JR’s downfall is the most ridiculous theory I have ever heard. As I remember JR threw mostly bullets into the ground landing 10 yds ahead of our WR’s.
Debo has lost all credibility with that claim, which borders on the fantasic.
Get some help Debo.
August 2nd, 2012 at 11:32 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:05 pm
Raider Riff Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:01 pm
Rob, I dont want to get into a major debate of Jamarcus. You guys are missing my point.
- He had the worst receiving core in football. And to make matters worse, all of the receivers were at least .3 seconds faster on their 40 yard dash times than the guys Jamarcus was used to throwing to in college. You guys have no idea how difficult it is to throw to a guy who runs a 4.3 or faster. Jerry Rice ran a 4.7 I believe, and QB’s never missed him, they were always on target.
………………
Are you high?
August 2nd, 2012 at 11:41 pm
Debo sure loves him some Jamarcus freakin’ Russell.
I have to wonder if Debo isn’t Jamarcus’s cousin or some close relative.
I do agree that JR was clutch a couple of times. He saved a game at Denver with a few clutch plays…one on 4th down. Then there was that game at KC. It seemed that he COULD make plays when he really wanted to; just didn’t want to enough.
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:04 am
well, that’s the thing. the guys who talk about the plays he did make are missing the point. we know he was capable of making good plays. that’s why al davis drafted him. if u watched his game against notre dame he was fantastic. but once he got paid, it was all about the bling and the partying and football didn’t mean anything to him. he truly was a codeine addict. it ruined his professional life and he blamed everyone else. just like every addict dirtbag that ever lived.
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:12 am
i suspect that many supporters of jamarcus then and now were defending him because he was a black quarterback and they didn’t want to see him getting unjustly slammed. but black raider fans should be even more angry at him actually. he made himself look like all of the bad stereotypes that racists like to point at. all of the idiots who immediately and predictably made fun of russell when he was drafted and used the n-word about him were given huge validation by him when he acted the way he did. he gave anti-black qb rhetoric ammunition for years.
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:13 am
what do u think bill cosby would say about jarassic?
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:14 am
and i’m sure there a few guys out there somewhere telling people ryan leaf was treated poorly.
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:22 am
1st time caller, long time listener, luv this blog. Very informative place for Raider chat. I get all my Raider news from the bleacher report, but u guys r head and shoulders above those guys. I think I’ll drop the bleacher report and stay here. Really enjoy the cat fights and purse swinging, but the politics really blow ass. You get enuff of that garbage on the radio and tv. Especially those news reporters. Talk about gettin a life. what the f man. Please keep the politics out of here and in the crapper and fast food joints where it belongs. You can bet the back side of your ass Palmer and Dmac and company are gonna take it all the way. Someone said if our D is 25% better that what it was last year we’ll be winners. It already is better cuz we got rid of the odor that plagued this team. Reg and DA will do a good job. Allen will be coach of the year. Bank it and take a vacation with it. My only wish is that Al D could be around to see what he started. cant wait for this show to get on the road. We’re gonna see a revitalised club, a return to the Raider days of old. So lets have some fun in here and get excited bout Raider football, and no more political junk. If you want politics, go run for some kind of office or join a debate club. This is the Raider party.
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:26 am
blackandsilverside Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 11:12 pm
Rob_Raider,
Debo’s reasoning that our WR’s being too fast lead to JR’s downfall is the most ridiculous theory I have ever heard. As I remember JR threw mostly bullets into the ground landing 10 yds ahead of our WR’s.
Debo has lost all credibility with that claim, which borders on the fantasic.
Get some help Debo.
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I’m a huge supporter of JR and I agree with just about everything Raider Riff says about his time here, but you need to have your eyes checked. Raider Riff is the one who who took the “fast wr” angle. Not saying there’s no merit to it, but I didn’t say it.
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:33 am
rob_raider Says:
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:12 am
i suspect that many supporters of jamarcus then and now were defending him because he was a black quarterback and they didn’t want to see him getting unjustly slammed. but black raider fans should be even more angry at him actually. he made himself look like all of the bad stereotypes that racists like to point at. all of the idiots who immediately and predictably made fun of russell when he was drafted and used the n-word about him were given huge validation by him when he acted the way he did. he gave anti-black qb rhetoric ammunition for years.
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Yeah, right. Just like I suspect there are a bunch of racist rednecks on this board who can’t wait to call him a failure because he was “lazy, stupid, fat and had no character”, while ignoring the fact that he played for the most dysfunctional franchise the league has seen during the past decade and was surrounded by the worst coaches and supporting cast in league history. At the end of the day, it can’t be denied that there isn’t one player during the last 10 years that enjoyed success in Oakland. When you wrap your brain around that fact, you might start to get where I’m coming from. Hopefully better days are ahead.
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:37 am
JR had the worst O line in football with garbage WR to boot but the bottom line is he has no love for the game. If you could give him the heart of Cam Newton skies the limit but he rather just be a rich street punk becuz he is a real street kinda guy but that’s what he wants to be.
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:41 am
eastoaklandraider Says:
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:37 am
JR had the worst O line in football with garbage WR to boot but the bottom line is he has no love for the game. If you could give him the heart of Cam Newton skies the limit but he rather just be a rich street punk becuz he is a real street kinda guy but that’s what he wants to be.
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Give him Cam Newton’s heart?? OK, sure. But while you’re at it, give him Cam’s O-line, Steve Smith, Jeremy Shockey, Greg Olsen, DeAngelo Williams and Jonathan Stewart. Oh and let’s get Rob Chudzinski in here to run the offense instead of Ted Tollner. You’re comparing apples and oranges.
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:44 am
I meant isn’t a real street kinda guy
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:54 am
Yes cam newtons heart last I checked the panthers sucked last year. How many games did they win. And JR did have his heart he would at least be on another team instead his out the league for good. Face facts Debo.
August 3rd, 2012 at 1:02 am
Guess debo doesn’t understand that u have to wanna play and have the drive to get better an win if u don’t have that doesn’t matter who ur supporting cast is. Dam some ppl will never get it on this blog
August 3rd, 2012 at 1:17 am
Damn, I guess we will be talking Jamarcus for years to come in here!
There must be some way for him to capitalize on the hatred that he evoked.
If only he had the motivation to do something with all the hate, he could make money some how!
Maybe some kind of website or something. Maybe he could join up with terrorists that hate american sports.
August 3rd, 2012 at 1:25 am
So far I could only give a prediction that the Raiders can reach maybe 9-7. I need to see the defense in action (maybe preseason)before I could say with a straight face that we could surpass that.
We have a very solid D-Line, but our LBs and Corners are complete question marks. The only question is if the new DA scheme can make this unit only slightly better then last years D.
Still, its not impossible, BiliCheat, can plug-in anyone in his secondary and get it to work with that Defense.
August 3rd, 2012 at 3:00 am
KK You swilling thunderbird again?
Acumen hahahahahahaha
The definition of Acumen
ac·u·men = the ability to curse men while kicking rocks
August 3rd, 2012 at 3:22 am
I found a diamond in the trashbin
Mister Davis
379.Twinkle Says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 9:32 pm
For the record I am officially on the CP3 bandwagon.
Gotta be in the record books…..two heisman QB’s from the same school on the the same NFL squad….wish to god AD was here for this one…..I can just see that smile!
August 3rd, 2012 at 3:57 am
Hi plunketthead my buddy Mr Demea Washington says hi!
When I became captivated by Mr AD and HIS Oakland Raiders
it was due to a large number of reasons.There were 25 teams and us.Lets talk the greatest wideout ever Mr Art
Powell…………I could go on but suffice it to say the picture of Mr J.Madden lighting the eternal flame will stay with me til the day I die……This was a very special man with his own take.As Mr B Bryant was heard to announce “Sam Bam Cunningham may have done more for racial equality than any other human being.”This was after Mr Cunningham had just hung 425 yards on Alabama.
By the way…Stanford had no business even being in that Rose Bowl…….never mind winning the damn thing.
Sorry Woody didn’t mean to bring it up …again!
August 3rd, 2012 at 4:59 am
Good Morning Nation!
August 3rd, 2012 at 5:45 am
RE 415:
Not to mention that both QBs are from USC — that especially would’ve made Davis proud (as long as you didn’t bring up the last name “Kiffin”)!!
August 3rd, 2012 at 5:52 am
Barely over a week Gents, and we’ll get a first hand look. Lot’s to pour over
August 3rd, 2012 at 5:54 am
Who doesn’t think this team will be improved?
I’d like to try to understand your logic.
b/c of losing Routt, Boss, Wimbley or b/c of schedule and improved teams in AFC west?
August 3rd, 2012 at 5:57 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Happy Aloha Friday!
August 3rd, 2012 at 5:57 am
I think most folks in “Here” think they’ll be improved. It’s just the media mainly, other sports writers that don’t follow this team religiously…..New coach, New GM, New Schematic….Blah, Blah, Blah……Raiders gonna tank this year.
Not me. I think they’re gonna do real well actually. Playoffs feel like more of an expectation than a hope. I’m not betting the farm on it but, I feel good this year.
August 3rd, 2012 at 6:00 am
RAIDER NATION CELEBRATION..FAN’S URGED TO ARRIVE DO TO LIMITED PARKING..IMAGINE THAT!!
August 3rd, 2012 at 6:01 am
EARLY..
August 3rd, 2012 at 6:05 am
Mornin Hwnrdr…. How Goes it?
August 3rd, 2012 at 6:10 am
JR I dunno if it’s gonna be improved or if that means the number of wins?I guess that is the deal in this day and age but I can’t help but wonder at what cost.
Every one in the league sh!t on us cos our record sucked for the last decade but at every owner’s meeting the vote was 31-0-1 abstention.It really hurts me me to hear
a$$hole’s in here openly sh!t on the man that made us the greatest sports franchise ever….anywhere….period!
August 3rd, 2012 at 6:12 am
theghostronin79 Says:
August 3rd, 2012 at 6:05 am
Mornin Hwnrdr…. How Goes it?
Good Morning! Hey, it’s Friday, I’m tired as sh!t! But…gotta make that dough! What’s going on with you this morning?
August 3rd, 2012 at 6:13 am
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
August 3rd, 2012 at 6:00 am
RAIDER NATION CELEBRATION..FAN’S URGED TO ARRIVE DO TO LIMITED PARKING..IMAGINE THAT!!
LOL, right?
August 3rd, 2012 at 6:18 am
It’s like 10 days until we see our guys in Silver and Black playing football!!!!
Under the lights, on MNF.
Can’t wait to hear the MNF crew say 85% good things about the Raiders, than have the foil-hatters come on here and tell us about the league-wide conspiracy and media bias against us, lol
August 3rd, 2012 at 6:25 am
I wouldn’t call it an “east coast bias” as some have said, but more of a general malaise and ambivalence towards the Silver and Black. They have nothing invested in them emotionally, so they can throw out mock praise for ratings sake and also to attempt to sound even handed.
But they could give 2 sh!ts if the Raiders return to prominence. They are much more emotionally invested in the QB battle out in New York.
August 3rd, 2012 at 6:27 am
Don’t know if the saying applies here…..
but they say the opposite of love is not hate, but ambivalence. That’s how I see the National Media’s relationship with the Raiders.
August 3rd, 2012 at 6:36 am
They are much more emotionally invested in the QB battle out in New York.
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That’s because the country is.
Read in SI, that last year 3 of Tebow’s games were in the top 10 of most viewed regular season games in the last 12 years. Basically the top 10 was Brady-Manning games, opening MNF games, and Tebow. That was the list.
The dude moves the needle.
August 3rd, 2012 at 6:43 am
But they could give 2 sh!ts if the Raiders return to prominence.
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I disagree.
We still get a MNF opener damn near every year. Plenty of GOOD teams haven’t had a MNF opener in 10 years.
The Lions went almost 8 years without a primetime game. We had almost 15 over that time.
August 3rd, 2012 at 6:45 am
No doubt Tebow draws the interest of the country at large. We need to understand that and not be so quick to point to conspiracies or bias. That presumes a level of interest (from them) that we ourselves match, which isn’t the case. The Nation# needs to not take itself SO seriously. There are other factors at play.
August 3rd, 2012 at 6:49 am
I do think the national media “Cuts corners” (if I can steal coach’s line there) sometimes when it comes to us.
Comes with the territory of not being in the playoffs for 10 years.
They do the same for Pirates and Royals in baseball, and plenty of NBA teams.
August 3rd, 2012 at 6:49 am
We still get a MNF opener damn near every year. Plenty of GOOD teams haven’t had a MNF opener in 10 years.
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Well they at least give the Raiders credit for being an lightning rod in the opinion of the average fan. That creates interest in itself. Love them or hate them, worship them or villanize them, the Raiders aren’t ever a boring team, (even when they actually are). There’s enough animosity there to kindle interest over a broad spectrum of fans. Detroit, Cleveland, Jacksonville people just click the remote off. But the Raiders is another story…
August 3rd, 2012 at 6:52 am
I was looking at the Thursday night schedule of games this year.
Love the fact that we have a game every week on Thursday, and while the schedule picks up later in the year, the first 7 or 8 games are massive snoozers.
Jax-Indy (I guess for Luck but still), Minny-Tampa, the Titans TWICE I believe, Sea-STL.
Snooooooooooozers
August 3rd, 2012 at 6:53 am
Sure the media “cuts corners” and sometimes rehashes old storylines from different regimes and outdated storylines. They can only be experts on so many teams. And the Raiders haven’t been a storyline in the playoffs for years, so it kind of reduces their angles to: Post Al Davis era, New coaching staff, Stud oft-injured RB, old vet upstart QB. But they aren’t going to be researched like the playoff caliber teams. Until we can prove ourselves to be playoff caliber team, we are also-rans in their eyes, and the conversation gets stale quickly.
August 3rd, 2012 at 6:55 am
THERE R VERY FEW TEAMS IN THE LEAGUE THAT THE RAIDERS DONT HAVE A HISTORY WITH.BY HISTORY I MEAN A HUGE MEANINGFULL GAME OR TWO SOMEWHERE IN THE PAST.
August 3rd, 2012 at 6:56 am
I am not liking the Thursday Night Games much. It will be tempting not to tune in. I’ve got way too many other things going on to put that much of my week into watching pro football. I’m going to end up missing a big chunk of the season, and feeling like I “sacrificed”. I’d be happy knowing I didn’t miss anything. Sorry if that sounds like a whine.
August 3rd, 2012 at 6:56 am
Good post 123, #438
Co-signed
August 3rd, 2012 at 6:59 am
I like being in the Mountain time zone for football games.
Those 10am games are still in the morning, but 11am gives a little extra time to get stuff done in the morning still. The Thursday night game is an hour later, to settle down from work and ends a little later so I can appease the wifey with the remote for a minute and still tune in for the 4th quarter.
That opener is a beyotch though. 8:30 pm start, ends near midnight, I couldn’t imagine being on the east coast for that.
August 3rd, 2012 at 7:01 am
Dirt-Lot,
No doubt there are a ton of interesting storylines with old rivalries in the AFC West, and AFC Championship games against the Steelers. The snow job game in New England, and on and on.
But the networks are catering to a viewing audience that today probably only remember the last 10 superbowls. That’s the target demographic. If it seems like an east coast bias, it’s because the east coast has been pretty successful over the last decade.
The Raider haven’t made any hay in the rankings or had any memorable moments in a very long time. And the younger audience pays no mind to the distant past.
August 3rd, 2012 at 7:03 am
I couldn’t imagine being on the east coast for that.
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JFB,
It sucks. I don’t get to watch until close to midnite and up till 2AM. Have to get work by 7:30 and drop off kids at school before that. I also work out every morning at 4:30AM for an hour. It’s rough!
August 3rd, 2012 at 7:05 am
theghostronin79 Says:
August 3rd, 2012 at 6:05 am
Mornin Hwnrdr…. How Goes it?
Good Morning! Hey, it’s Friday, I’m tired as sh!t! But…gotta make that dough! What’s going on with you this morning?
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Yeah, second that for tired and need dough. I had to disappear for a bit and EARN some of that dough. Friday’s I’m good for nothing, just struggling to make it to the end of the day. But, got some practice to check up on in a few hours and getting stoked for Dallas.
August 3rd, 2012 at 7:12 am
Hey Guest, you’re going to the Celebration right? Gonna be able to catch the game too?
August 3rd, 2012 at 7:16 am
@79,
Nope, I wish I was coming to the celebration. My travel plans got pushed over to the week of the 20th of August and I’ve been told to be flexible on that. It sucks that I won’t be able to go. I was really looking forward to that.
August 3rd, 2012 at 7:17 am
What makes all this travel really hard is that school for the kiddies starts back up on the week of the 20th. My wife’s not happy.
August 3rd, 2012 at 7:17 am
I know, I would have been too. I was gonna live vicariously once you returned and told us all about it. Ha ha….. Too bad man.
August 3rd, 2012 at 7:21 am
Hey ghost79,
If I go to Miami in week 2, I’ll be sure to update everyone on that.
August 3rd, 2012 at 7:21 am
Roger that, thanks Guest. I gotta split and go do more work. Catch ya later man.
August 3rd, 2012 at 7:26 am
theghostronin79 Says:
August 3rd, 2012 at 7:05 am
theghostronin79 Says:
August 3rd, 2012 at 6:05 am
Mornin Hwnrdr…. How Goes it?
Good Morning! Hey, it’s Friday, I’m tired as sh!t! But…gotta make that dough! What’s going on with you this morning?
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Yeah, second that for tired and need dough. I had to disappear for a bit and EARN some of that dough. Friday’s I’m good for nothing, just struggling to make it to the end of the day. But, got some practice to check up on in a few hours and getting stoked for Dallas.
I hear ya on that one! Are you going to The Raider Nation Celebration?
August 3rd, 2012 at 7:36 am
Hwnrdr, Naw, I WISH I was going. I don’t live in Cali anymore. I’m up north in Eugene Oregon. I was planning to make it down for a game this year when I visit my Dad in Petaluma…We’ll see, finances will dictate. Got the Sunday Ticket though, so I ain’t missin Sh*t
August 3rd, 2012 at 7:38 am
LOL, at least there are no blackouts where you are!
August 3rd, 2012 at 7:41 am
Yeah, that would make me IRATE. But, I would imagine lotta the bars got Sunday Ticket too right? I just got it for free switching to Direct TV. Sweetness.
August 3rd, 2012 at 7:46 am
theghostronin79 Says:
August 3rd, 2012 at 7:41 am
Yeah, that would make me IRATE. But, I would imagine lotta the bars got Sunday Ticket too right? I just got it for free switching to Direct TV. Sweetness.
NICE!
August 3rd, 2012 at 7:53 am
Quote for Today…
“Never to suffer would never to have been blessed.”
― Edgar Allan Poe
August 3rd, 2012 at 8:02 am
Accountability is letting your fans watch you practice
-Me
August 3rd, 2012 at 8:18 am
Congrats to Gabby. I am not big on gymnastics but she is very impressive for a teenager, especially when she talks. No ummmmms and you knows or likes. She speaks better then half the politicians
August 3rd, 2012 at 8:19 am
Good day Nation! Little over a week til’ Dallas gets thumped!
August 3rd, 2012 at 8:22 am
416.Twinkle Says:
August 3rd, 2012 at 3:57 am
Hi plunketthead my buddy Mr Demea Washington says hi!
When I became captivated by Mr AD and HIS Oakland Raiders
it was due to a large number of reasons.There were 25 teams and us.Lets talk the greatest wideout ever Mr Art
Powell…………I could go on but suffice it to say the picture of Mr J.Madden lighting the eternal flame will stay with me til the day I die……This was a very special man with his own take.As Mr B Bryant was heard to announce “Sam Bam Cunningham may have done more for racial equality than any other human being.”This was after Mr Cunningham had just hung 425 yards on Alabama.
By the way…Stanford had no business even being in that Rose Bowl…….never mind winning the damn thing.
Sorry Woody didn’t mean to bring it up …again!
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Twinkle, I must have missed something earlier because I do not have a clue what you are talking about
August 3rd, 2012 at 8:27 am
“Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I’m not sure about the former”
-Einstein
August 3rd, 2012 at 8:32 am
I see NFL Network is gonna be at Raiders camp today with that guy Scott Hanson.
Hanson is a guy who rarely says anything bad about a team. He was at Panther camp saying they are legit SB contender. When he interviewed Dennis Allen he asked how he felt about taking over “this storied franchise”.
I’ve never heard him say anything bad or negative about any team or player..it’s kind of his “schtick” I guess.
You need to have some of that to balance out all the jerks on there.
August 3rd, 2012 at 8:36 am
Panthers a legitimate contender…pff please.lol
August 3rd, 2012 at 8:36 am
“Only two things are infinite, Johnnie Lee Higgins will rise from the ashes in a return to the NFL being known as an impact receiver/returner in 2012 and Kirk Morrison will be an absolute beast for the Buffalo Bills this year with former Capt Kirk haters blowing him kisses begging him to come back to unseat McRussell at MLB”
-RRS
August 3rd, 2012 at 8:37 am
Agreed, TX
Panthers are 6-10 this year imo
August 3rd, 2012 at 8:39 am
RR
Dude are you psychic? Was just about to post 6-10 for them too…we just know better bro.lol
August 3rd, 2012 at 8:41 am
RR,
Where is JLH these days, is he playing with Frantz Joseph?
August 3rd, 2012 at 8:42 am
JLH is running back a kick-off somewhere.lol
August 3rd, 2012 at 8:43 am
@Raider O
last I checked he worked out for the 49ers, Titans & Patriots after being released by Philly last season …
August 3rd, 2012 at 8:45 am
Johnnie Lee worked out for the 9ers? Hmmm…him or Kyle Williams? What would have happened?
So with that said! Good!!!
August 3rd, 2012 at 8:46 am
I wanted us to draft JLH, the kid had 82 catches for 1000+ yards in his last year at UTEP.
August 3rd, 2012 at 8:48 am
@Tx
Saints & Falcons will own that division this year.
plus the Bucs got better. Cam Newton will throw for a bunch of yards again and a bunch of INT’s too
I take a ton of heat for this, but I still think Newt is a black version of Jeff George
much rather have Terrelle Pryor to groom for the future on the peanuts payscale. Who are Cam’s mentors?
Derek Anderson & Chris Weinke, lol
glad TP has a few years to learn under Palmer’s wing
August 3rd, 2012 at 8:50 am
Bush, Z Miller, JLH, and Jabustus.
Good draft. Too bad Jabustus was more interested in sipping sizzurp.
August 3rd, 2012 at 8:50 am
RR
Yessir, Falcons should win the division imo, with Saints close 2nd, Panther’s a couple games off them. A QB can have all the talent in the world, but if they’re not exceptionally smart, they will never win a ring imo.
August 3rd, 2012 at 8:51 am
O
Another guy from UTEP, that went to my high-school, was Paul Smith..played back-up RB for the 9ers I think, but never broke out.
August 3rd, 2012 at 8:53 am
plus the Bucs got better.
@ RRS…
link? source?
August 3rd, 2012 at 8:55 am
Another player from UTEP that I really liked and eanted to keep was Thomas Howard. He is good enough to play WLB for Cinci (top 10 defense last year), but he is not good enough to play for us?
August 3rd, 2012 at 8:58 am
“The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources.”
- Einstein
August 3rd, 2012 at 9:02 am
@G123
Replacing Morris with Schiano was huge!
adding Vincent Jackson, Carl Nicks & Dallas Clark in free agency … then purging that turd Winslow Jr from the locker room
Freeman is entering his 4th year (still only 24 years old). drafted RB Martin to complement Blount
Barron & David to help fix that pathetic defense.
they are on the uphill swing. Certainly wont be 4-12 again!
August 3rd, 2012 at 9:03 am
Panthers will win 6 games.
Bucs will win 6 or 7 with a rookie HC
August 3rd, 2012 at 9:04 am
Bucs will be better than 4-12, but not a whole lot better.
Better not talk about the Falcons winning the division, Debo is going to come in here and tell us that Matty Ice is no better than Chris Redman again, lol.
August 3rd, 2012 at 9:06 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 3rd, 2012 at 9:04 am
Bucs will be better than 4-12, but not a whole lot better.
Better not talk about the Falcons winning the division, Debo is going to come in here and tell us that Matty Ice is no better than Chris Redman again, lol.
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I’m still waiting for Debo to tell us what training camp JaMarcus is in, or who won the “bidding war” he was going to engender…
August 3rd, 2012 at 9:08 am
O
I used to be a Howard fan as well, think he can still play in the right defensive scheme, seems to play well in cincy as you said..
August 3rd, 2012 at 9:10 am
I loved his response to him not being a hard worker. I believe he asked where are the sources and mocked the “unsubstantiated internet rumors”.
I believe his lack of any interest by any NFL team is fairly substantiated.
August 3rd, 2012 at 9:15 am
JFB
You speaking of JLH bro?
August 3rd, 2012 at 9:15 am
Nope, the Chosen One
August 3rd, 2012 at 9:17 am
LOL
Yeah they can look at the guy and tell he isn’t anywhere near football shape imo.
August 3rd, 2012 at 9:19 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 3rd, 2012 at 9:10 am
I loved his response to him not being a hard worker. I believe he asked where are the sources and mocked the “unsubstantiated internet rumors”.
I believe his lack of any interest by any NFL team is fairly substantiated.
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Exactly. With the ridiculous shortage of competent quarterbacks in this league, a 26-year-old former #1 overall pick can’t even get a tryout. Why? Because he’s a lazy morale-destroying slug and everyone knows it.
August 3rd, 2012 at 9:19 am
I think I’ve actually run out of things to say about that dude. It’s like I took out that magic pen from “Men in Black” and flashed my eyes with it. Wanted to forget ALL that ever took place. I needed to for my sanity.
August 3rd, 2012 at 9:22 am
I’m still waiting for Debo to tell us what training camp JaMarcus is in, or who won the “bidding war” he was going to engender…
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@Duck
did you see this, from the live chat ??
http://blacksportsonline.com/home/2012/07/jamarcus-russell-has-put-on-a-little-of-weight-photos/
August 3rd, 2012 at 9:25 am
I agree with Pete Prisco. Bucs will be 3-13.
Schiano’s new “culture” of “toes on the line” is going to wear some the wrong way. They already lost D’Quan Bowers and traded away 2nd round pick Bryan Price for a bag of crackerjacks. Their stud LT is out for a month, and WR Benn is out too. Also, their horrible defense has exactly one free agent upgrade, overpriced oft troubled CB Eric Wright. Believe me when I tell you that the Bucs D-line is paper thin and weak, and the entire defense, LB’s, safeties, corners are going to be exposed. This is basically the same team that had 40 point on average scored against them in the final 10 weeks of 2011.
Greg Schiano is in over his head. This will unravel quickly. You heard all this right here.
August 3rd, 2012 at 9:25 am
did you see this, from the live chat ??
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DAAAYYUUUMMM ! ! !
August 3rd, 2012 at 9:25 am
Whats good NATION?
August 3rd, 2012 at 9:26 am
theghostronin79 Says:
August 3rd, 2012 at 9:19 am
I think I’ve actually run out of things to say about that dude. It’s like I took out that magic pen from “Men in Black” and flashed my eyes with it. Wanted to forget ALL that ever took place. I needed to for my sanity.
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Yeah man the Jawalrus era was like a bad dream man. Many people blame Al for taking him, however, I don’t since he was a stud at LSU and other teams would have taken him quickly as well.
August 3rd, 2012 at 9:26 am
Tx,
TH is a perfect fit for WLB in a 4-3 scheme IMO.
August 3rd, 2012 at 9:28 am
O
I agree bro, was just about to grab me a Howard jersey before we let him go.lol
August 3rd, 2012 at 9:29 am
They already lost D’Quan Bowers
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They lost him when they drafted him.
Balky knee’s at 20 years old rarely get any better.
August 3rd, 2012 at 9:30 am
TxRaider210 Says:
August 3rd, 2012 at 9:26 am
Yeah man the Jawalrus era was like a bad dream man. Many people blame Al for taking him, however, I don’t since he was a stud at LSU and other teams would have taken him quickly as well.
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True that. Cleveland would have jumped all over him at #3 if we’d taken Megatron like Kiffin wanted.
August 3rd, 2012 at 9:32 am
Today is RAIDER day in Napa. The B@uce will be shooting me updates from a Semi Pro perspective.
I will post them on the blog.
August 3rd, 2012 at 9:33 am
If Aaron Rodgers could slip from the top 3 to the 20’s, there is no guarantee Jamarcus couldn’t have done the same.
But Cleveland does have a long-stading tradition of screwing things up, so they probably would have taken him at #3.
August 3rd, 2012 at 9:33 am
A black jeff george? Really?
August 3rd, 2012 at 9:33 am
http://www.nflshop.com/product/index.jsp?productId=12772608&cp=2237512&pageType=family&parentPage=family
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What you guys think??lmao
August 3rd, 2012 at 9:33 am
JaMarcus became a dream come true for Al, especially because of his arm strentgh! But even Al admitted that he had to cut ties with him and move on!
August 3rd, 2012 at 9:34 am
What’s up Thec?
Can’t wait to see our TC on NFLN.
August 3rd, 2012 at 9:34 am
Practice through the eyes of ROG. Should be interesting!!!!
August 3rd, 2012 at 9:34 am
Duck
Totally agree there, Kiffin had me out-smarted cause the walrus was a baller in college..
August 3rd, 2012 at 9:35 am
Raider O Says:
August 3rd, 2012 at 9:34 am
What’s up Thec?
Can’t wait to see our TC on NFLN.
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Whats up Brethren? is that going to be live?
August 3rd, 2012 at 9:37 am
What’s up Thec? Almost time brother!
August 3rd, 2012 at 9:38 am
Marks hair Says:
August 3rd, 2012 at 9:33 am
A black jeff george? Really?
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I did not read all the post however, did someone say BRL was the black jeff george?
August 3rd, 2012 at 9:39 am
I’m gonna haul azz to a local bar after work and watch TC on NFL network, since it should start at 420 my time.
August 3rd, 2012 at 9:40 am
hwnrdr Says:
August 3rd, 2012 at 9:37 am
What’s up Thec? Almost time brother!
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all is well…
Yeah cant wait until the Q&A session with DallA$$.
The Semi’s will have a lot of questions, and answers.
August 3rd, 2012 at 9:42 am
@G123
Greg Schiano is bright young defensive mastermind coming up in the ranks, much like Dennis Allen.
they dont take crap from anybody and treat the team like they are military troops heading into battle
the Bucs needed discipline, just like the Raiders did.
They didn’t need a players caoch like Raheem Morris or Hue Jackson to hang out with and laugh at thier jokes, exchange trash talk. They needed a leader and they got one. problem?
August 3rd, 2012 at 9:42 am
Thec,
I’m not sure bro. I’m just happy they ate on TV and not the Jets. Talking Raiders now on NFLN.
August 3rd, 2012 at 9:42 am
510. RR said cam newton was the black jeff george..
August 3rd, 2012 at 9:45 am
Marks hair Says:
August 3rd, 2012 at 9:42 am
510. RR said cam newton was the black jeff george..
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lololololololololololo….Wow.
I thought he was talking about BRL = Black Ryan Leaf.
August 3rd, 2012 at 9:46 am
Lombardi thinks KC is going to win the west.
August 3rd, 2012 at 9:46 am
They didn’t need a players caoch like Raheem Morris or Hue Jackson to hang out with and laugh at thier jokes, exchange trash talk. They needed a leader and they got one. problem?
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Not trying to defend either Rah or Hue, but how is it that the year prior when Rah got a low budget team to 10-6, that loose style worked? How is it that the new Tampa regime, much like the new Raider regime, is getting rid of rap music at practices. Some are calling it a new “culture”, but that’s PC for “out with the black guy and in with whitey”. Black HC’s are loose and friendly with the troops and Boss whitey don’t take no crap. Isn’t that how it all seems when you cut through the PC crap?
So I don’t take a lot of stock in this “disciplinarian” coach thing as some kind of instant improvement. It works for awhile, until it doesn’t work. It all seems to go around in cycles.
August 3rd, 2012 at 9:48 am
If I was a betting man, I’d put money on KC too.
August 3rd, 2012 at 9:49 am
they dont take crap from anybody and treat the team like they are military troops heading into battle
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With this type of approach he will be successful IMO.
Professional players are brats, and need dicipline, not coddling.
I would prefer a general, over a hang out buddy…
The Raids now have one in Patton.
August 3rd, 2012 at 9:50 am
Black HC’s are loose and friendly with the troops and Boss whitey don’t take no crap. Isn’t that how it all seems when you cut through the PC crap?
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@G123
How does this explain guys like Mike Tomlin & Norv Turner ??
August 3rd, 2012 at 9:52 am
Kc & denver will be tuff…
August 3rd, 2012 at 9:53 am
How does this explain guys like Mike Tomlin & Norv Turner ??
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Tony Dungy. Leslie Frazier, that guy in natti???
August 3rd, 2012 at 9:53 am
Dungver will be swept.
We will split games with KC, like we used to. They win @ Oakland, we win @ Arrowhead …
August 3rd, 2012 at 9:54 am
Raiders will win the West! Crennel is an idiot of a HC like Norvster and Dungver will implode.lol
August 3rd, 2012 at 9:54 am
521. Exactly..
August 3rd, 2012 at 9:55 am
The WHOLE AFC WEST is not going to be a cake walk for any team in the NFL.
This Div will and teams are on the rise, and will be tough outs week in, week out for the rest of the NFL.
August 3rd, 2012 at 9:55 am
How does this explain guys like Mike Tomlin & Norv Turner ??
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With Tomlin, a lot of people look at him and point to his DC as a force of personality on that team. In a lot of ways Tomlin and Rah are alike. They are good friends and hang out. I don’t see a lot of differences other than Rah’s immature “hanging out with the boys”. I think he’ll learn from that in Washington.
And how can I explain Norv to you? How he has a job in the NFL as anything other than a coordinator is beyond me. Amazing he’s lasted this long. I’m for one grateful and kiss AJ Smith’s feet for keeping the Norv around. Perfect “white” example of a loose coach.
August 3rd, 2012 at 9:56 am
Mike Tomlin is loose and friendly?
August 3rd, 2012 at 9:57 am
@ Thec
Dennis Green & Donnie Henderson were generals, too.
Anybody remember Willie Shaw?
August 3rd, 2012 at 9:57 am
Reg and DA will have a totally new respect from the league after this year.imo
August 3rd, 2012 at 9:58 am
WWWTW!!
We
Will
Win
The
West
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:00 am
Many of the tv heads think the Raiders are rebuilding, problem with that is they were already a decent team, just gets better from here.
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:00 am
@Tx
McKenzie & Allen are already well respected around the league.
Knapp & Tarver ?? probably not so much …
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:01 am
Some are calling it a new “culture”, but that’s PC for “out with the black guy and in with whitey”. Black HC’s are loose and friendly with the troops and Boss whitey don’t take no crap. Isn’t that how it all seems when you cut through the PC crap?
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Sounds like the 2012 Raiders
Playoffs!!!!
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:02 am
Mike Tomlin is loose and friendly?
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Not saying that, but just that Rah gets unfairly bashed for being “loose and friendly”. His story was similiar to Tomlin as young bright black HC’s who expected professionalism and attention to detail. Rah had the right core of players who were steady influences in 2010, and lost those guys in 2011. Plus the team was decimated with injury. They never recovered. What was left on the field was a collection of clowns with no heart. Rah got punished for it, as is the usual case for a team that mails it in.
The point I’m making isn’t about comparison of HC’s so much as to say that “loose and friendly” can get you to a 10-6 season just as well as hardass coaches.
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:02 am
RR
I hear ya on that man, so what’s Gannon thinking when he ranked them 25th? They’ll always be the team that people love to hate, but it will only make each win sweeter!
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:04 am
Kell & ROG are loose and friendly?
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:06 am
Mike Singletary? what was his issue? Too frendly???
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:07 am
Viva la Raiderittos
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:07 am
Not going to predict the AFC West, but I will say that from top to bottom the strongest teams in order are:
Chiefs
Raiders
Chargers
Broncos (this assumes a career ending injury to PM)
with one qualifier, Chargers will by default have ZERO chance of winning. They have the Norv, and my 2025 Sports Almanac from the future says Norv never wins anything in his lifetime.
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:07 am
Tony Dungy’s issue, he was too friendly right?
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:07 am
533. New offense, defense, head coach, gm, owner.. Its a rebuild.
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:08 am
2025 Sports Almanac
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Let me get the PDF version of that.
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:08 am
CP>Cassel, DA>Crennel, DMAC>Charles..Raiders take it!
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:09 am
Marks Hair Says:
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:07 am
533. New offense, defense, head coach, gm, owner.. Its a rebuild.
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But given our talent level on offense, it’s a rebuild that could produce fast (as in playoffs this season and elite status within 2-3 years) results.
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:09 am
Sure Tony Dungy was a general. There are always some outliers to the common perception that black HC’s are “friendly and loose” or “players coaches”. Look at Herman Edwards for example.
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:10 am
Mike Singletary? what was his issue? Too frendly???
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LOL @ Thec!
Shurmur in Cleveland
Garrett in Dallas
Carroll in Seattle
Fox in Dungver
wouldn’t want to meet these guys in a dark alley, they’re tough
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:10 am
No, a rookie DMAC and rookie TP at QB would be a rebuild.
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:10 am
I think Dungy gets miscast as not being tough, because he is such a great dude.
He is old school and strict, just he was so well respected he got along well with players because they all mostly listened and didn’t give any gruff back to him.
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:11 am
Let me get the PDF version of that.
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Sorry, I can’t convert the code.
It’s writtin in CODE BLACK!
lol
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:12 am
547. I have to completely disagree.. players coaches are called players coaches, and disciplinarians are called disciplinarians.. Color does not factor in..
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:14 am
The point I’m making isn’t about comparison of HC’s so much as to say that “loose and friendly” can get you to a 10-6 season just as well as hardass coaches.
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I disagree. Look at Coughlin, Billisacheat, and Harbaugh, players need discipline.
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:14 am
Agreed, Tx.
Could have just dropped Palmer and traded McFadden.
Kicked Seymour & Kelly to the curb with thier bloated contracts. Huff too. forget paying top dollar to re-sign Branch.
Janikowski, Lechler, Heyward-Bey & McClain … all goners in a “rebuild” with cheap choir boys
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:14 am
Dungy is a great dude, no doubt. He does so many things for the community, it’s like he’s a saint. Locally here in Tampa, he helped establish the “all pro dads” organization which helps dads and gradeschoolers connect and discuss leadership goals.
Awesome organization and I am part of two chapters in “all pro dads”.
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:15 am
Wonder when bothe Harbaugh’s, being so smart and all, will realize their QB’s are both turds..lol
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:15 am
TxRaider210 Says:
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:08 am
CP>Cassel, DA>Crennel, DMAC>Charles..Raiders take it!
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Hard to argue
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:15 am
players coaches are called players coaches, and disciplinarians are called disciplinarians.. Color does not factor in..
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Exactly!
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:15 am
both*
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:17 am
guest123 Says:
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:11 am
Let me get the PDF version of that.
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Sorry, I can’t convert the code.
It’s writtin in CODE BLACK!
lol
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ROFL….
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:17 am
210,
I think Flacco’s above-average and getting better.
He was shanked FG away from starting and maybe winning the Super Bowl.
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:17 am
@Tx
if both Harbaughs can make the playoffs with “turds” at QB, they are pretty good coaches !!
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:17 am
Thec
I think if one team give the Raiders trouble, could be Denver, but only if Manning is in top form all year.imo
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:18 am
RR
Good coaches that got handed good defensive teams, but still too dumb to fire their QB’s.lol
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:18 am
I remember last offseason, about half the blog said:
Hue Jackson > Jim Harbaugh
LOL!!
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:19 am
Teams that don’t have to learn a new playbook on both ends of the field are way ahead of us.. Thats what the t.v heads are talking about.. Rebuild.. nobody on the raiders is spending much time working on their own game.. They’re all working on the new playbooks..
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:20 am
Dungy is one of my favorite coaches.
Dungy = Class
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:20 am
How many years of losing in the playoffs will it take both Harbaugh’s to fire their QBs? I don’t see them figuring it out very quickly, for some reason.
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:20 am
the whines had to do the same thing last year as they brought in all new widgets.
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:22 am
General Patton, will get it done.
I believe we will get to the tournament….This year.
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:22 am
DA is smart enough to throw changes at these guys in a manner that they don’t get overwhelmed.imo I expect O and D to play at a high level, this year.
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:22 am
I see some worry over Peyton Manning. Not saying he can’t possibly be the Manning of old. But he’s like 38 or in dog years he’s 130. His neck is paper mache held together with caulking, waiting to be bounced off the frozen cold sod in Denver. Obviously no team can afford to lose their franchise QB, but when (not if) but when Manning goes down….CHECKMATE, game over, season over and thanks for playing Donkeys!
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:23 am
horses run on grass not domed turf.
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:23 am
Could be, but teams must prepare for the Manning of old, just to be safe.imo
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:24 am
@G123
dont forget, Allen knows Dungver like the back of his hand …
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:24 am
RR
Yes he does, along with Wheeler.
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:25 am
Wheeler knows Manning’s style, my bad.
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:25 am
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:22 am
General Patton, will get it done.
I believe we will get to the tournament….This year.
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Why donchya go ahead and print that one…. And I’ll sign it at the bottom.
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:26 am
The Raiders will get to the tournament this year.
Print That!
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:26 am
Peytons pretty hard to hit.. First 2min drill of camp he went 70yds for 6pts.. Its the same old peyton.. So if we beat him we beat him.. But im not holding my breath waiting for a freak injury to save us..
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:28 am
@580, The Dungver O-line isn’t the same as the Indy O-line of 2006.
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:28 am
dont forget, Allen knows Dungver like the back of his hand
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WORD ! ! !
Especially the Defense for Craps SAKE. He know’s ALL the weak points and strengths of that Defense. You bet he’s already had a “Sit Down” with Gregg and told him what’s up.
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:30 am
@580, The Dungver O-line isn’t the same as the Indy O-line of 2006.
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Nope, how many times did they put Orton on his Can, and left Tebow to run for his life? The O-Line will forsake him and having PM, questioning his decision.
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:31 am
581. Yeah, peyton probably needs waay more time than tebow to throw the ball.lol
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:32 am
guest123 Says:
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:28 am
@580, The Dungver O-line isn’t the same as the Indy O-line of 2006.
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exactly what i have been saying !!
i think manning will be trying to run for his life !!!!
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:34 am
Funny, colin cowherd said dever has a great o-line…lol
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:34 am
@584.
So PM will never get his uniform dirty? It only takes one hit, even one late hit will do.
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:34 am
Colts 2010 line was pretty good. 2011 was awful.. The difference? PM.. Pretty simple really.. Its a qb league. And he has 4 mvp awards..
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:36 am
I remember Lovie Smith said the one thing he would do as Bears coach is “beat the GB Packers”. He knew if he focused on that and game-planned for how to do that, they would be successful. It worked…at first they DID beat GB and Bears made it to SB.
When we were in the midst of that 13 game horrendous losing streak to SD all i wanted was for us to beat THEM. I wanted all the focus and game planning designed to accomplish that one thing cuz I figured if we could finally do that then beating other teams would arise as a natural consequence.
I don’t think Cable focused on SD
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:37 am
587. Suuure it wiill.. One hit. Paper neck. Riiight..
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:38 am
PM was never a mobile QB, and it’ll be interesting to see how much more stiff he looks in the pocket after 4 neck surgeries. Denver’s starting center is weak. The best point of attack is straight one gap bull rush bee line to Peyton. Let’s see him actually try to swivel his head the way he used to looking for the 4th read with pressure up the middle.
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:41 am
591. They’ve been doing that at camp since last week..
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:42 am
Analysts are glossing over Peytons deep ball right now, saying he isn’t really throwing much deep…that he doesn’t have to.
I heard one guy say when asked “the deep ball for Manning will undoubtedly come around. He’s been a little off target a couple times but EVERYONE is confident he’ll be fine in that area”.
Of course the guy can do absolutely NO WRONG.
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:42 am
Yes, but do they have permission to suplex Peyton like our boys will?
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:45 am
PM was never a mobile QB, and it’ll be interesting to see how much more stiff he looks in the pocket after 4 neck surgeries. Denver’s starting center is weak. The best point of attack is straight one gap bull rush bee line to Peyton. Let’s see him actually try to swivel his head the way he used to looking for the 4th read with pressure up the middle.
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In my hiearchy of hatred I am pulling for the Steelers on opening day. You know the Steelers D is licking their chops for the rematch.
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:46 am
If Ro McClain can somehow suplex PM, he’ll be forever back in my good graces.
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:46 am
JFB, whats the over under on number of reg season games pm plays?
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:46 am
I’d like to see our guys be the ones to take him down but it’s ok if Pittsburgh does it the 1st game.
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:46 am
That wasnt your question..
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:47 am
Is Denver running double tights? Tamme and Dressan? Also, we need to demand that McGahee be drug tested for PEDS, somthing aint right.
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:48 am
The Bronco’s were the top rushing team in the league last year, and with Tebow at QB, they were waay ahead of any other team.
That’s what kept them in games, and helped their WR’s get single coverage all game (because teams stacked the box with 8 or 9 guys).
Will be completely different this year for the Donks, and I expect them to have some rough patches early on, much like our defense.
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:48 am
I look for Burris and Branch to have free shots at Manning all game, don’t think their line can hold those guys off.
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:49 am
JFB, whats the over under on number of reg season games pm plays?
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15.5
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:49 am
I’d like to see our guys be the ones to take him down but it’s ok if Pittsburgh does it the 1st game.
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I know James Harrison won’t take it easy on Peyton. Predicting a three game suspension following the Denver game.
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:49 am
Don’t worry about Mc-no-knees in the denver backfield. Ronnie Hillman is said to be the next stud RB in Dungver. & Moreno is on his way out from what I hear.
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:49 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:49 am
JFB, whats the over under on number of reg season games pm plays?
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15.5
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Smart A$$
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:50 am
Ok.. Lets put aside the freak injury.. They got better.. Kc got better & healthy.. We have some tuff competition this year..
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:50 am
I don’t think Hue Jackson was a bad coach. Overall I think the team respected him. And I respect through all the conflict of last year he never just gave up. Most of the games with the exception of the KC loss was entertaining to watch. He had a boat load of injuries but he never made up excuses for them. Did he come across cocky sometime, yes! But there a number of coaches in the NFL who come across cocky.
Palmer, was not one of my favorite QBs but when JC went down it was not a bad trade. Plus, for Palmer to just walk on the field from home not that bad. ITs and all I expect him to be better this year.
Any coach with a one and done season taking direction from Al Davis until he died RIP is going to be on a hard road (RIP). It is another day now but I really do believe that HUe with a healthy team would have got us to the playoffs. He lost his starting QB and RB for the season. Two mismatch weapons like RBs Jones and Reece. Starting WR Ford and D Moore, Chaz never 100%, Murphy never 100%. He had a different offense week to week.
Now the defense Checkwa, Mike Mitchell, DVD, Shaug-n-nasty, and Seymour, just taking up space out there. So why does he never get credit for that? Most coaches would have called it a year back when JC went down. Oh and how could I forget the dual Head Coach Al Davis’s death after he helped pick the staff and keep the scholarship players.
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:51 am
The AFC WEST will no longer be the doormat div.
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:51 am
Of course rooting against whoever plays Dungver is nothing new for me. It’s a tradition that’s gone on for decades.
When asked who am I a fan of?
1) Raiders
2) Anyone who plays Dungver
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:52 am
I don’t think Peyton will be great, and I expect them to take a step back from last year.
But I think they likelihood of Peyton falling back towards the pack at QB play is more likely than him getting hurt.
Partly because, if you give Peyton pressure, he will take a Bruce Seldom-like dive in the pocket at times. He doesn’t take hits outside of the pocket, and hell even avoids them in the pocket.
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:53 am
The AFC WEST will no longer be the doormat div.
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I never thought we were. Moreso that we all cannibalized each other. Not the strongest div, but certainly not the weakest. Go look at the NFC West with the exception of last year’s Niners who have always been the doormat conf.
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:54 am
When asked who am I a fan of?
1) Raiders
2) Anyone who plays the disc
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:54 am
Has there beenn a lb sack in camp yet?
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:54 am
Rolando played one game against Peyton, and baited him into 2 picks.
Rolando owns Peyton!!
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:56 am
avoids them in the pocket.
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He could get a crook in his neck trying to avoid them.
I am not wiching anything on him, as i want to beat them with him however, something tells me he may not make the season.
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:56 am
@CJ Legend 34
McFadden injury killed it for Hue. Might be the coach today if Palmer had a healthy McFadden. Not blaming McFadden, just bad luck. McFadden and Bush, might have helped our pathetic D.
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:56 am
Yes, but do they have permission to suplex Peyton like our boys will?
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I can see it now……
Shotgun snap….PM bouncing feverishly on his toes while darting through progression….NOTHING…Nasty breaks loos….Manning starts sliding to the right…Never saw Burris on the delayed blitz and gets Ear-Holed……P-O-W…..Ball goes straight up in the air and ruled an incomplete pass…..B.S……
Burris gets up and steps over his body, Manning laying there with his chin-strap up around his nose while fellow O-Line try picking him up by his Jersey.
All Day baby…..Gonna be in that “Grill” All day son. Sack or Not, he will go down, and go down HARD ! ! !
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:56 am
Partly because, if you give Peyton pressure, he will take a Bruce Seldom-like dive in the pocket at times. He doesn’t take hits outside of the pocket, and hell even avoids them in the pocket.
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Peyton is going to get a new fall course curriculum in Heavy Pressure 101. He’ll look an awful lot like Glo throwing the high sideline throw b/c he can no longer throw the deep ball. (Why isn’t anyone concerned about this? “Oh, the deep ball will come around, it’s PM after all”. NONSENSE.
PM = 2011 Glo
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:57 am
I doubt the coaches will show LB blitzing packages just yet, or with fans present.imo
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:57 am
I would laugh so hard if Peyton gets hurt this year.
They are on the hook for like 4 years at almost 20 per with him.
He could take down the franchise if he gets hurt and is done after about 8 games.
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:58 am
Peter King postcard from Dolphin’s camp:
“The Dolphins don’t have an impossible pre-Thanksgiving schedule, but the strong defenses of Houston, Oakland, Arizona and the Jets will test Miami’s under-construction offense five times in the first seven games.”
We’re a strong defense now!? I’m buying in that we’ll be better, but Peter King?
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:58 am
I hear guys talking about Palmer and how “he came off the couch” to take over the team midseason and then DA adds “..on the couch eating potato chips”. At some point it’ll finally progress to “..on the couch, eating potato chips, drinking beer and watching barely legal porno”.
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:58 am
@618,
love it! Nice Play by Play there. I can see it in HD Technicolor.
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:58 am
79
I can tell you’re pumped man!lol Burris will leave his mark on Manning’s lid this year, just like you said.
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:59 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:57 am
I would laugh so hard if Peyton gets hurt this year.
They are on the hook for like 4 years at almost 20 per with him.
He could take down the franchise if he gets hurt and is done after about 8 games
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Sort of like what BRL did to the Raids.
August 3rd, 2012 at 11:00 am
I hope someone does jack up pm. I hate his antics at the LOS.
August 3rd, 2012 at 11:00 am
611. huh?. He will be a middle of the pack qb because he avoids hits..?
August 3rd, 2012 at 11:00 am
I hope someone does jack up pm. I hate his antics at the LOS.
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hike the f@kin ball allready…
August 3rd, 2012 at 11:01 am
If anyone can help guess the snap counts on PM’s audibles, it should be Wheeler. He should be the team captain on Dungver week, orchestrating the line to jump right at the snap into the backfield.
August 3rd, 2012 at 11:03 am
620. The fans just got there.. Im sure we’re already blitzing.
August 3rd, 2012 at 11:06 am
611. huh?. He will be a middle of the pack qb because he avoids hits..?
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No, he will fall back closer to the middle of the pack, because he is older, didn’t play all of last year, and is in a new offense.
If Peyton ever peaks in Denver and returns to his older form, it won’t be the beginning of the season, and probably would be next year.
August 3rd, 2012 at 11:07 am
PM: “hut hut”
ref: “offsides”
Kelly: “fu¢k!”
Pm: “huuut hut!”
Ref: “offsides!”
Kelly & seymour: “Fu¢k!!”
August 3rd, 2012 at 11:08 am
If Peyton ever peaks in Denver and returns to his older form, it won’t be the beginning of the season, and probably would be next year.
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I would expect a vet like him to be in form no later than mid season. For all we know, he could be installing his own offense.
August 3rd, 2012 at 11:08 am
@623. When did Carson come known to be a “couch potatoe”? It’s funny when they keep mentioning the ocuch reference. Carson should be PO’d to be taking that kind of criticism.
August 3rd, 2012 at 11:09 am
Marks hair Says:
August 3rd, 2012 at 11:07 am
PM: “hut hut”
ref: “offsides”
Kelly: “fu¢k!”
Pm: “huuut hut!”
Ref: “offsides!”
Kelly & seymour: “Fu¢k!!”
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90% of his antics at the LOS is pure BS.
August 3rd, 2012 at 11:10 am
If anyone can help guess the snap counts on PM’s audibles, it should be Wheeler. He should be the team captain on Dungver week, orchestrating the line to jump right at the snap into the backfield.
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Definately got a couple of spies in the house with Wheeler and DA. I got a feeling DA and Knapp were planning specifically for Denver from the early going. Lots of intel to cross over.
August 3rd, 2012 at 11:11 am
Marks hair Says:
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:26 am
Peytons pretty hard to hit.. First 2min drill of camp he went 70yds for 6pts.. Its the same old peyton.. So if we beat him we beat him.. But im not holding my breath waiting for a freak injury to save us..
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Nation was good. Totally agree Markie Mark I want to beat him on the field anyway. On another note I saw somebody say Cam was a black jeff george lol wow but I’m not surprised guess MVick is the black steve young.
August 3rd, 2012 at 11:11 am
We jump offsides for punt returns..lol
August 3rd, 2012 at 11:12 am
90% of his antics at the LOS is pure BS.
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I know right? It even kills my ass playing Madden. COME ON DUDE…….Damn near runs the play clock out on every snap…….LOL
August 3rd, 2012 at 11:13 am
Lakers speaking to Leandro Barbosa
Greg Stiemsma formally signs deal with Timberwolves
Knicks like Kenyon Martin, but he wants to be paid
Ricky Rubio’s recovery going well, may be on court in camp
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another slow day for NBA news, eh?
August 3rd, 2012 at 11:15 am
know right? It even kills my ass playing Madden. COME ON DUDE…….Damn near runs the play clock out on every snap…….LOL
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Someone needs to fugg him up just for that alone…
he drives me bananas.
August 3rd, 2012 at 11:16 am
Nation was good. Totally agree Markie Mark I want to beat him on the field anyway. On another note I saw somebody say Cam was a black jeff george lol wow but I’m not surprised guess MVick is the black steve young.
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What up East?
JR is BLACK Ryan Leaf
August 3rd, 2012 at 11:16 am
I looked up Peyton’s stats, thinking there would be signs of a progressive drop from 2008-2010 but I was disappointed. He actually got better from 2009-2010, although the team “dropped” to 10-6.
His best yr. in 2004 was just sick…49 td’s, 10 int’s. 12-4 record.
August 3rd, 2012 at 11:17 am
He won’t be pulling that Gibberish if they’re down 3 scores. Gotta strike quick.
August 3rd, 2012 at 11:17 am
time to out myself from the blog…
You guys have a great reat of the day.
1 NATION
August 3rd, 2012 at 11:17 am
Im hoping for barbosa.. Im not into miles..
August 3rd, 2012 at 11:17 am
theghostronin79 Says:
August 3rd, 2012 at 11:12 am
90% of his antics at the LOS is pure BS.
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I know right? It even kills my ass playing Madden. COME ON DUDE…….Damn near runs the play clock out on every snap…….LOL
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He will learn how crappy that Oline is the first game against Pitt. Would surprise me if he takes about a sack per quarter. Over/under gents?
August 3rd, 2012 at 11:19 am
later Thec
August 3rd, 2012 at 11:19 am
He will learn how crappy that Oline is the first game against Pitt. Would surprise me if he takes about a sack per quarter. Over/under gents?
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I gotta feeling too, that he’ll be hearing footsteps even when they’re not there. If he takes a shot or two, he’s gonna start laying down in the fetal position if a guy gets within an arms distance of him.
August 3rd, 2012 at 11:20 am
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He will learn how crappy that Oline is the first game against Pitt. Would surprise me if he takes about a sack per quarter. Over/under gents?
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i say he only takes 1 sack.
and then a cart ride to the locker room !!!
August 3rd, 2012 at 11:20 am
You too Thec
August 3rd, 2012 at 11:21 am
I am much more concerned with Von Miller hurting Carson physically, than Peyton hurting us in the W-L column.
We can beat him, so long as we have Carson under center.
August 3rd, 2012 at 11:22 am
79 Agreed man, he will be rattled for sure.
Mike
That’s the spirit man!lol
August 3rd, 2012 at 11:22 am
Donks camp, for anybody interested …
http://www.nfl.com/trainingcamp/story/09000d5d82b05cdb/article/denver-broncos-training-camp-all-eyes-on-peyton-manning
August 3rd, 2012 at 11:22 am
Maybe Palmer can get back to 2005 form when he actually bested Manning statistically:
Palmer- 32 td’s 12 int’s 67.8 comp%- 3,836 yds.
Manning-28 td’s 10 int’s 67.3 comp% – 3,747 yds.
It’s been done before….
August 3rd, 2012 at 11:23 am
JFB
I think Schmitt “the runaway beer-truck” will handle Von Miller blocking.imo
August 3rd, 2012 at 11:25 am
Hopefully it doesn’t fall on our FB to block Von Miller!!!!
That’s not much of a recipe for success, lol. We need Veldheer to wall him off, with the TE chipping and the FB/RB over the top.
August 3rd, 2012 at 11:26 am
I think Schmitt “the runaway beer-truck” will handle Von Miller blocking.imo
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LMAO……Beer truck? That’s awesome. That dude LIVES to crush people. It makes him happy.
August 3rd, 2012 at 11:26 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:57 am
I would laugh so hard if Peyton gets hurt this year.
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The clowns on this board never cease to amaze me.
August 3rd, 2012 at 11:28 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 3rd, 2012 at 11:25 am
Hopefully it doesn’t fall on our FB to block Von Miller!!!!
That’s not much of a recipe for success, lol. We need Veldheer to wall him off, with the TE chipping and the FB/RB over the top.
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Keep in mind that Schmitt is a mean guy, if Miller gets around the edge, I could see Schmitt running through him.
August 3rd, 2012 at 11:29 am
theghostronin79 Says:
August 3rd, 2012 at 11:26 am
I think Schmitt “the runaway beer-truck” will handle Von Miller blocking.imo
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LMAO……Beer truck? That’s awesome. That dude LIVES to crush people. It makes him happy.
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LOL Yeah an announcer gave him the name in college, nice Q n A with him on the home page.
August 3rd, 2012 at 11:29 am
The clowns on this board never cease to amaze me.
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Hey Old Pal!!!
The feelings mutual.
I would laugh, not at a player getting hurt, but for our bitter division rival being on the hook for $20 millie a year to a 40 year old broken QB.
August 3rd, 2012 at 11:29 am
658.Just Fire Baby Says:
August 3rd, 2012 at 11:25 am
Hopefully it doesn’t fall on our FB to block Von Miller!!!!
That’s not much of a recipe for success, lol. We need Veldheer to wall him off, with the TE chipping and the FB/RB over the top.
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Jared Allen dominated every game he played in last yr. getting 22 sacks for the season.
When he went against Veldheer? ZERO!
August 3rd, 2012 at 11:30 am
Hopefully it doesn’t fall on our FB to block Von Miller!!!!
That’s not much of a recipe for success, lol. We need Veldheer to wall him off, with the TE chipping and the FB/RB over the top.
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Pop some screens and hit some good Draws with pitches to the opposite side, should help take him outta the game.
August 3rd, 2012 at 11:31 am
Jack Del Rio is trying to make the defense tougher & more aggressive.
The Donkeys secondary got “gashed” last season …
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both from that Donks camp article, link posted above.
is that a knock on Dennis Allen?
August 3rd, 2012 at 11:31 am
Dungver really thinks their D is re-vamped, please. No more Dawkins, DJ Williams and Dumervil(maybe). They will be exposed and Miller will see more double’s with no Elvis on the other side.
August 3rd, 2012 at 11:31 am
Thec Says:
August 3rd, 2012 at 11:16 am
Nation was good. Totally agree Markie Mark I want to beat him on the field anyway. On another note I saw somebody say Cam was a black jeff george lol wow but I’m not surprised guess MVick is the black steve young.
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What up East?
JR is BLACK Ryan Leaf
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What up thec you da man. Waitn on ur post from practice.
August 3rd, 2012 at 11:33 am
We’re running a ZBS again.
Von Miller will be cut blocked. print that!
August 3rd, 2012 at 11:34 am
Von Miller is a future HOFer.
There is no throw a few screens and draws at him and cross him off the worry list.
He is a 60 minute headache for all 32 DC’s in this league.
They asked all 32 HC’s and GM’s who they would start their franchise off with one player in an SI poll.
The highest rated defensive player? Von Miller, and he was like 8th in total voting (behind a bunch of QB’s, Arian Foster and AP).
August 3rd, 2012 at 11:34 am
655.RaiderRockstar Says:
August 3rd, 2012 at 11:22 am
Donks camp, for anybody interested …
http://www.nfl.com/trainingcamp/story/09000d5d82b05cdb/article/denver-broncos-training-camp-all-eyes-on-peyton-manning
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Thanks, but all I have to do is turn on NFLN for all day extensive coverage on bronco camp…No wait..they’re going back and forth to Jets camp too.
(kidding) Thx.
August 3rd, 2012 at 11:35 am
663.Just Fire Baby Says:
August 3rd, 2012 at 11:29 am
The clowns on this board never cease to amaze me.
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Hey Old Pal!!!
The feelings mutual.
I would laugh, not at a player getting hurt, but for our bitter division rival being on the hook for $20 millie a year to a 40 year old broken QB.
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Kinda shocked Debo, didn’t you say that Elway had JR’s phone number on speed dial? Thought you might be intrigued if Manning got hurt, cause JR is just Elway’s next logical choice for the future? I mean Denver cannot have two future HOF QBs on the roster at one time?
August 3rd, 2012 at 11:36 am
Stevie Johnson (Bills) cut block on Eric Berry (Chiefs) ended his season, remember?
Owen Schmitt, meet Von Miller!
August 3rd, 2012 at 11:37 am
@DJG
hey man, I wasn’t the guy who brought up Peyton Manning and the Horsehumpers!
August 3rd, 2012 at 11:38 am
Palmer- 32 td’s 12 int’s 67.8 comp%- 3,836 yds.
Manning-28 td’s 10 int’s 67.3 comp% – 3,747 yds.
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As much as i’d like to see those 2005 numbers again it is a different deal w/ Palmer and a different offense he’s running.
No longer the “drop back” deal.
August 3rd, 2012 at 11:39 am
674.RaiderRockstar Says:
August 3rd, 2012 at 11:37 am
@DJG
hey man, I wasn’t the guy who brought up Peyton Manning and the Horsehumpers!
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I know. I was being smart alek in regard to NFLN’s incessant Manning and Tebow coverage.
August 3rd, 2012 at 11:39 am
I think that is giving Schmitt “The lucky to have a job” too much credit.
August 3rd, 2012 at 11:41 am
Von Miller, or any 2nd year player, shouldn’t be labeled a future HOFer. Way too early to tell, anything can happen in football.
August 3rd, 2012 at 11:43 am
Lotta love out there for schmitt for some reason.. He’s only started like 15 games right?
August 3rd, 2012 at 11:46 am
Nfl on sirius is all jets all fu¢king morning!
August 3rd, 2012 at 11:47 am
Raider Dawg Says:
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:58 am
Peter King postcard from Dolphin’s camp:
“The Dolphins don’t have an impossible pre-Thanksgiving schedule, but the strong defenses of Houston, Oakland, Arizona and the Jets will test Miami’s under-construction offense five times in the first seven games.”
We’re a strong defense now!? I’m buying in that we’ll be better, but Peter King?
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What did Peter King see when he went to Napa??? I know he commented on the changes regarding relating to the media, but now “strong defense?”
Oh the times they are a’changin…
August 3rd, 2012 at 11:49 am
Trying to get caught up after 8 days of camping. Glad to see you guys didn’t make any crazy transactions without me!!!!
August 3rd, 2012 at 11:50 am
Yeah!!! You all are talking about Schmitt like he is the truth at FB! What has he really done?
My boy Reece has made more plays blocking than this guy and he is known for catching the rock!
August 3rd, 2012 at 11:53 am
@Redia
thats exactly right, which makes OS the perfect guy to cut block some guy and take him out for the season.
it’s dirty, but it’s within the rules. cut blocking is legal if it’s 1-on-1
August 3rd, 2012 at 11:54 am
Gettiing ready to leave for practice. I’ll be sure to tell Kelly & McClain how much you guys hate them in here.
August 3rd, 2012 at 11:54 am
the pocket was never safe in philly…
August 3rd, 2012 at 11:57 am
Gettiing ready to leave for practice. I’ll be sure to tell Kelly & McClain how much you guys hate them in here
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@Kell
hand them a few piggybanks and tell them thats for stealing Al’s money, thanks!
August 3rd, 2012 at 11:58 am
KoolKell Says:
August 3rd, 2012 at 11:54 am
Gettiing ready to leave for practice. I’ll be sure to tell Kelly & McClain how much you guys hate them in here.
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say hello to METHOD for me !!
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:00 pm
3 weeks until Dell’s FF Draft!
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:01 pm
R8er Mike…..Was it you that went to camp a couple years back and posted a video on youtube or something?
If it was, that was pretty sweet.
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:01 pm
KK
Be sure to call the players Boot-lickers so they know it’s you!
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:03 pm
LMAO Tx
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:04 pm
LOL @ Tx
yeah, any players that ever praised Al Davis … bootlickers!!
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:05 pm
79
I’m pumped bro, going to the neighborhood pub after work to some camp TV and brewski!
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:06 pm
RE #680:
I’m just glad some of their fat tub-0-goo linemen were not encouraged to run around in the rain with their shirts off!
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:07 pm
So it’s gonna be “Live” then? That’ll be sick man. I’ll be stuck at work still. Enjoy brotha, drink one for The Ghost.
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:07 pm
RR
LOL We’ll be watching TV and hear someone yell “bootlicker” or “handfkr”
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:08 pm
C.J. Miles to sign with Cleveland Cavaliers
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@ Marks Hair
good for you!!
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:09 pm
79
I hope it’s live man, not sure if there’s a delay. I’ll be sure to take a jaeger-bomb for ya bro!
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:11 pm
NFL Network is going to be live at Napa today, after reading the post from last night, lets hope we won’t see two Raider Nation members fighting on the sideline. Are should we want to see it? lol
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:11 pm
We’ll be watching TV and hear someone yell “bootlicker” or “handfkr”
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@ Tx
wonder if you’ll see Beeecham sippin’ margs in his swim trunks with ladies all over him, passing out invites to the PMPP party on his love boat following camp practice?
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:12 pm
LMAO Tx you little Pootbutt. lol
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:13 pm
@Tru #700
Security should be on high-alert after being alerted to the fact that a bunch of blog dweebs are coming out to watch it live and stalk Steve & Jerry!
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:14 pm
RR
LMAO Yeah I could see that, Beeecher with a fresh marg puttin’ the mack down on the cheerleaders, or showing them how to style the pubes.
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:14 pm
Where are they now …?
Robert Gallery is mired at #2 at guard and tackle on the depth chart in New England.
Gallery is the only 1 of the first 8 picks in that draft (’04) to never have at least one Pro Bowl appearance.
Gallery, drafted #2 overall, is mentioned in the same breath as Tony Mandarich (Green Bay, ‘89) as the biggest offensive lineman draft bust of all time
I like the looks of our current 0-line much better now, thank you very much!
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:15 pm
I hope it’s live man, not sure if there’s a delay. I’ll be sure to take a jaeger-bomb for ya bro!
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Practice gonna be about 2 hours from now. Hell, I’m itching just for the tweets alone. I’d be stoked to watch it on TV.
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:15 pm
watch for the old man in the stands, pointing fingers, calling everybody a racist.
then having a talk with McClain to educate him about “the streets”
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:15 pm
theghostronin79 Says:
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:01 pm
R8er Mike…..Was it you that went to camp a couple years back and posted a video on youtube or something?
If it was, that was pretty sweet.
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sorry brother but it wasnt me…. i am an east coast guy.
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:16 pm
79
Yeah should be good stuff man, Cork been tweeting like a bird on speed from camp.
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:17 pm
As long as no one tries to roll a deuce out on the practice field, we’re okay!!
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:17 pm
79,
Mike = Maryland’s finest!!
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:17 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:15 pm
watch for the old man in the stands, pointing fingers, calling everybody a racist.
then having a talk with McClain to educate him about “the streets”
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I think I know who this dude is supposed to be….haahahah
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:17 pm
lol … thanks RRS
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:18 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:15 pm
watch for the old man in the stands, pointing fingers, calling everybody a racist.
then having a talk with McClain to educate him about “the streets”
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LMAO Should we look for a retired Navy ball-cap, or just a shiny red corvette in the background?
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:20 pm
raidertbone Says:
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:17 pm
As long as no one tries to roll a deuce out on the practice field, we’re okay!!
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Yeah man, all we need is Missus Beeecham to show up with her gallon of Gallo!lol
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:20 pm
@Tx
look for a guy that appears to have just left the barber shop, wearing a Copenhagen t-shirt !!
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:20 pm
sorry brother but it wasnt me…. i am an east coast guy.
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roger that. The guy on the video introduced himself as “Raider Mike”……I thought there was a coorelation.
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:21 pm
TxRaider210 Says:
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:18 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:15 pm
watch for the old man in the stands, pointing fingers, calling everybody a racist.
then having a talk with McClain to educate him about “the streets”
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LMAO Should we look for a retired Navy ball-cap, or just a shiny red corvette in the background?
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or the guy with his face assaulting Brians fists !!
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:21 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:10 am
I think Dungy gets miscast as not being tough, because he is such a great dude.
He is old school and strict, just he was so well respected he got along well with players because they all mostly listened and didn’t give any gruff back to him.
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Been around some of these guys in real life inlcuding my own brother. These people naturally exude a quiet confidence and command a tremendous amount of respect without requiring to raise their voice or any rah rah stuff.
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:22 pm
look for a guy that appears to have just left the barber shop, wearing a Copenhagen t-shirt !!
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LOL…..LOL
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:23 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:20 pm
@Tx
look for a guy that appears to have just left the barber shop, wearing a Copenhagen t-shirt !!
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LOL or the guy standing behind all the security so that Amy Trask doesn’t see him..
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:23 pm
Anybody think the Browns will get progressively better, now that Randy Lerner sold the team?
2002-2012 under Lerner, the Brownies were downright awful!
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:23 pm
Is that the same old man who admitted to being Randy Moss’s groupie in the Safeway parking lot? Where Moss had to run away from?
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:15 pm
watch for the old man in the stands, pointing fingers, calling everybody a racist.
then having a talk with McClain to educate him about “the streets”
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:25 pm
Is he going to call CP a cracker?
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:25 pm
RR
Browns should improve over time imo, they can really only go up from here, far as stability goes.
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:26 pm
O dog… whats up my GreenParty V.P. ??
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:27 pm
LMAO ODB.
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:27 pm
Raider O Says:
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:25 pm
Is he going to call CP a cracker?
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Then afterwards you see Burris take down some old fart on the sidelines, real-estate folder and paperwork regarding his “properties” fly everywhere..
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:27 pm
Browns should improve over time imo,
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Richardson should BEAST for them.
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:29 pm
theghostronin79 Says:
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:27 pm
Browns should improve over time imo,
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Richardson should BEAST for them.
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He should man, don’t know much on their O-line, but the young QB has a cannon too!
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:30 pm
ODB,
Not much my Green Party Brother. Enjoying the comedy show. I love this place.
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:30 pm
In 2002, the Browns finished 9–7, and due to multiple tiebreakers they made the playoffs for the first time since 1994. Facing Pittsburgh in the first round, the Browns led 33–21 with five minutes to go, but ultimately lost 36–33. Their largest lead in the game was 17 points—they led 24–7 in the third quarter; after that point the Steelers outscored them 29–9.
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this is the “highlight” on the Lerner era in Cleveland, lol
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:32 pm
722. Depends on who they hire to run the team.
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:33 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:30 pm
In 2002, the Browns finished 9–7, and due to multiple tiebreakers they made the playoffs for the first time since 1994. Facing Pittsburgh in the first round, the Browns led 33–21 with five minutes to go, but ultimately lost 36–33. Their largest lead in the game was 17 points—they led 24–7 in the third quarter; after that point the Steelers outscored them 29–9.
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this is the “highlight” on the Lerner era in Cleveland, lol
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Hey, Lerner can tell his grand kids about the game they “almost” had.lol
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:33 pm
Tx,
LOL
Go Aztecs!!
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:33 pm
Holmgrens out
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:34 pm
sobering thought & honest question:
Since the 2002 season ended, do the Raiders have more wins than the Browns from 2003-Present ??
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:35 pm
O
I’m only a day away from ordering the Burris, stinks though cause the customs say 3-4 wks before they ship.
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:35 pm
Holmgrens out
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@Marks Hair
not likely..
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/03/haslam-says-holmgren-has-browns-headed-in-right-direction/
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:37 pm
I’m only a day away from ordering the Burris, stinks though cause the customs say 3-4 wks before they ship.
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Guess I better get on it huh?…….HOT DIGGITY
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:37 pm
Raider O Says:
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:30 pm
ODB,
Not much my Green Party Brother. Enjoying the comedy show. I love this place.
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lol lol.. i hear ya brother, but as they say,
everythings better with a bag of weed !!!
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:37 pm
RR
I’d hope the Raiders have more wins, but who knows in that time span..maybe just a few less
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:38 pm
79
I’ll hit up a mall tomorrow and do a post about my thoughts on jersey quality and what not.
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:41 pm
New article on Burris on hompage fellas
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:43 pm
Thanks Tx
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:48 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 3rd, 2012 at 11:31 am
Jack Del Rio is trying to make the defense tougher & more aggressive.
The Donkeys secondary got “gashed” last season …
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both from that Donks camp article, link posted above.
is that a knock on Dennis Allen?
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Well consider the source. JDR had his team quit on him and he was almost begging to be fired. He’s got no room to be talking backtalk about Allen’s defense.
He should just shut up period!
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:52 pm
79
No prob man…I’m out of here for now Nation! Have a great Friday and weekend!
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:52 pm
Hey Tx, is that article on Raiders.com?
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:53 pm
TxRaider210 Says:
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:52 pm
79
No prob man…I’m out of here for now Nation! Have a great Friday and weekend!
You too, Tx!
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:54 pm
79
Nah it’s on the blog homepage bro, not very interesting, but something.
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:56 pm
Jeez, this blog has sh1t the bed. Raiders are in camp and the writers and snoozing. Poor effort.
August 3rd, 2012 at 1:00 pm
1000 fans are expected at practice.
August 3rd, 2012 at 1:02 pm
R8ER MIKE Says:
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:37 pm
Raider O Says:
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:30 pm
ODB,
Not much my Green Party Brother. Enjoying the comedy show. I love this place.
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lol lol.. i hear ya brother, but as they say,
everythings better with a bag of weed !!!
$$$$$$$$$$$$$
LOL
Yes it is!
August 3rd, 2012 at 1:06 pm
Tx,
No regular Burris Jersey?
Have a great weekend bro, and don’t forget about TC on NFLN.
August 3rd, 2012 at 1:11 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:23 pm
Anybody think the Browns will get progressively better, now that Randy Lerner sold the team?
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Ask Jamista Clown. He’s the resident expert on the crappy Browns. They’re his favorite team.
August 3rd, 2012 at 1:18 pm
So…are any of you Green Party members responsible for the tractor destruction of 7 police cars? Any of you farm and live in Vermont? Lol
August 3rd, 2012 at 1:21 pm
That Burris article was THIN….
August 3rd, 2012 at 1:22 pm
The Big Banana Says:
August 3rd, 2012 at 1:18 pm
So…are any of you Green Party members responsible for the tractor destruction of 7 police cars? Any of you farm and live in Vermont? Lol
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not me, but that guy is fast becoming my hero !!!
August 3rd, 2012 at 1:30 pm
Tx,
No regular Burris Jersey?
Have a great weekend bro, and don’t forget about TC on NFLN.
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Last time I checked, they didn’t have a #56.
Only #3, 20, 17, 92, and 55….Maybe 93.
Burris would have to be custom.
August 3rd, 2012 at 1:31 pm
LOL TBB
Green Party Mambers,
We found our Mascot!
(waiting for approval from Prez DMAC)
August 3rd, 2012 at 1:34 pm
Theghostronin79 Says:
August 3rd, 2012 at 1:30 pm
Tx,
No regular Burris Jersey?
Have a great weekend bro, and don’t forget about TC on NFLN.
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Last time I checked, they didn’t have a #56.
Only #3, 20, 17, 92, and 55….Maybe 93.
Burris would have to be custom.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
What?
No 85 and 33?!
I can understand nit having a 56 since he is a 4th round rookie, but 85 and 33?!?!
August 3rd, 2012 at 1:40 pm
What?
No 85 and 33?!
I can understand nit having a 56 since he is a 4th round rookie, but 85 and 33?!?!
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yeah man, they don’t have SQUAT right now, it’s pathetic.
August 3rd, 2012 at 2:12 pm
new post
August 4th, 2012 at 3:17 am
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