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Another day, another solid practice for Raiders

It’s a week into training camp and every day looks much like the previous ones. That can be good, in some respects, of course. Given coach Dennis Allen has been pleased with every practice so far, he no doubt doesn’t mind the practices resembling each other.
Yet, at some point, there’s going to come a time when some drastic changes are made, be it in personnel additions/subtractions or lineup moves.
For now, it’s pretty much status quo as far as the Raiders go with the way they look a little more than a week before their exhibition opener against the Dallas Cowboys.
For instance, the offensive line has remained the same throughout the offseason — with the exception of center Stefen Wisniewski missing all of them while recovering from a shoulder surgery — and the first week of training camp.
Allen said he and his staff are content with the players they are using with the first-team offense and defense. The way challengers perform in practice and games will dictate whether changes are made.
“The evaluation process takes time,” Allen said. “I’m not going to set a timetable as to when we work guys in. Whenever we, as a staff, sit down and think we’ve seen enough to warrant somebody stepping in and getting some of those reps, then we’ll make those adjustments.”
Rookie guard Tony Bergstrom said he understands not getting any reps with the first-team offense. In fact, he said he agrees with the way Allen is doling out playing time.
“I can’t assume the coach is going to take away reps from a veteran guy to give me reps,” Bergstrom said. “I’m hoping that, by the time the season comes around, I’ll be at that ability to where he could feel comfortable plugging me in there. So, I couldn’t tell you a time frame or even say that coach would do that. There’s veteran guys there that need the reps and need the looks. I’m just trying to learn from them as much as I can.”
It’s likely that Allen and his staff will re-evaluate after the Raiders play the Cowboys on Aug. 13. Yet, the deeper the Raiders go into camp without making any changes, the more likely it becomes that the players you see starting the first one or two exhibition games will be the ones who start against the San Diego Chargers on Sept. 10.

– Wide receiver Eddie McGee (hamstring) joined the short list of players unable to practice. He tweaked his hamstring during practice Friday and was held out today.
Fellow receiver Denarius Moore (hamstring) participated in the start of practice, but he was removed early on as a precautionary measure.
Allen said tight end Richard Gordon now has a lower leg infection, to go with the hip he injured earlier this week. Allen said the infection is of greater concern than the hip right now.
As for defensive tackle Travis Ivey, Allen said he is holding out Ivey because the big man isn’t in good enough shape to pracrtice without risk of injury.
“It’s a safety issue as much as it is anything else,” Allen said. “I want to make sure that he’s healthy, in shape, conditioned, his weight is where it needs to be, so that if and when he does get out here and start practicing, that he doesn’t injure himself.”
Ivey declined to comment.
It’s difficult to imagine how Ivey had the whole offseason to get himself into shape, yet failed to do so by the time the Raiders reported to training camp.
It’s also difficult to envision Ivey being a real force unless he meets the requirements on him and gets in some practice time before long.

– Allen said he was pleased with the way practice went today. He isn’t just saying what he thinks people want to hear.
“They would know,” Allen said, when asked if he would let his players know when practice isn’t meeting his expectations.
As for the media and fans, Allen said, “I believe you would (know, too).”

– Cornerback Shawntae Spencer has been outperformed by second-year cornerback DeMarcus Van Dyke, among others, in camp so far.
That’s not what the Raiders expected when they signed Spencer in the offseason and inserted him into the starting lineup opposite Ron Bartell. Yet, Allen said he isn’t too concerned right now.
“He’s been a little up and down in camp,” Allen said. “We’re going to continue to push him and see where he’s at. I’m not pushing the panic button on him yet. Obviously, with all these guys, we want to continue to see some improvement.”
On Saturday, Spencer made a nice play on a ball at one point. Another time, he got beat by receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey on a deep route, though Heyward-Bey dropped the ball.

– People make a big deal out of whether the offense or defense got the better of it in practice each day. Allen says the two sides are trading blows on a regular basis, without either one holding a commanding overall lead.
“I don’t think any of these practices have been totally dominated by one side of the ball or the other,” Allen said, “and that’s a good thing because, for us to be successful, we’re going to have to be a balanced team and we’re going to have to play well offensively, defensively and in the kicking game.”

– Backup running back Mike Goodson received plenty of love from the 1,000 or so fans in attendance Saturday. They seemed quite impressed by Goodson’s ability to hit the hole, turn the corner and use his speed to get downfield in a hurry.
Allen, too, is impressed by what he sees from Goodson, he said.
“He’s picked up the offense pretty good, which I’ve been impressed with,” Allen said. “Just what he’s able to do in open space, from an athletic standpoint, gives us a chance to exploit some things with him.”
Allen added that Goodson is a much better blocker than he expected when the Raiders traded for Goodson in the offseason.
Goodson said he enjoys playing in front of the fans here and that he is thrilled to be with the Raiders, especially in offensive coordinator Greg Knapp’s offense.
“I love it, man, I love it,” Goodson said. “How could you not? You get the ball and you just run. The holes are huge, so how could you not want to get in there and show it?”
Goodson said that there’s room in this offense for him, Darren McFadden and Taiwan Jones because of their different skill-sets.
“We’re all kind of unique,” Goodson said. “I like to catch the ball out of the backfield a lot. Darren, man, he’s just an athlete. He can catch the ball, he can run between the tackles, he can do it all. Everybody brings their own unique thing to the game.”
Goodson also is working with all the special teams, as he did when he was with the Carolina Panthers. He even has added personal protector on punts to his vast repertoire.

– Moore suffered a hamstring injury during at Oakland’s final mini camp in Alameda in mid-June. He said he recovered from that injury and reported to camp at full strength.
Lo and behold, the hamstring is bothering him again. He is doing the best he can to play through the pain but there comes a time when he has to be smart about his injury and take into account the bigger picture: the entire season.
“Yeah, it’s a little frustrating coming in, knowing that you have an injury, have to sit out and wait and watch your teammates constantly practice, going through it and grinding, and you just sit on the side,” Moore said. “But it’s something that you can’t control, you’ve got to sit back and just let it heal on its own.”

– Former Raiders offensive lineman Robert Gallery retired Saturday after a brief stint with the New England Patriots.
Thus ends a career that began with Gallery entering the NFL as the No. 2 pick of the draft in 2004. He started his career at left offensive tackle but finished it at left guard.
Sure, Gallery didn’t develop into the lock-down tackle that many of the so-called experts projected when he came out of Iowa. However, he carved out a decent career as a dependable lineman who represented the Raiders well and earned plenty of respect from his coaches and teammates.

– Zachary Koehn, 9, a fourth-grader in Sebastopol, spent the day getting the royal treatmen at training camp as part of the NFL Play 60 Super Kid contest.
Koehn will an article about his day at Raiders training camp. It will be posted on the Raiders section on NFLRUSH.com — http://www.nflrush.com/teams/OAK/?icampaign=rush_nav_team

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  • DJ Johnny

    195.Raider O Says:
    August 5th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
    DJ,

    Thanks for making me feel like a loser who is obsessed with his team.
    I’m addicted!

    I’m right there with ya…We’ve both been here since the SB…and well before.

  • jesusraiderjim

    Dj J

    Feel the same way. Did the team get Sunday off to attend church?

    One Nation we’re on the move!

  • Marks hair

    The Nfl Jetwork…lol

  • DJ Johnny

    Thec,

    I’ve been ranting about the whole Jets thing for awhile now.

    It’s beyond Tebow and Sanchez.

    The Raiders have been to the SB more recently than the Jets.

    I don’t get this whole Jets crap.

  • Thec

    Marks hair Says:
    August 5th, 2012 at 1:06 pm
    The Nfl Jetwork…lol

    +++++++++++

    hahahahahahahahaha….Good one, if I do say so…
    ROFLMAO does not do justice…

  • DJ Johnny

    I think it’s an orchestrated effort to brainwash us into being interested in the Jets.

    Pretty soon they’ll be rewriting history and telling us the Jets really won the last 4 SB’s.

  • Thec

    DJ Johnny, Same…Never liked the jest, or joe willie for that matter. NY is the most intersting metropolis in the states, and the jetworks are mostly on the east.

  • Thec

    Pretty soon they’ll be rewriting history and telling us the Jets really won the last 4 SB’s.

    ++++++

    Bruh, it would not suprise me if ALL SB were won by either the pats, gints or jest, and they rename the lombardi to belychek.

  • DJ Johnny

    You’d think ther’d be more NY love for the Giants…

    Yetserday THE TOP STORY on Sportscenter was a possible injury to Santonio Holmes…BEFORE the Olympics or baseball.

  • TxRaider210

    I forecast the Jets imploding about mid-season, after locker room issues and Rex babbling nonsense.lol

  • Thec

    I gotta get the H outta here…Will try to make it back before practice starts.

    The Semi JB will have tweets from a Semi; Pro perspective, that i will post up, as well as word from

    Cork, Vic, Paul, etc.

    1 NATION

  • Marks hair

    ” Tune in thursdays for wall to wall JETS sandwitched around your shltty little teams football game!” ” Right here on the Nfl Jetwork..”

  • DJ Johnny

    208.Thec Says:
    August 5th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
    Pretty soon they’ll be rewriting history and telling us the Jets really won the last 4 SB’s.

    ++++++

    Bruh, it would not suprise me if ALL SB were won by either the pats, gints or jest, and they rename the lombardi to belychek.

    Yeah. Even Michael Irvin wants it renamed for Belichek.

    Ha. Nuts.

  • DJ Johnny

    212.Marks hair Says:
    August 5th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
    ” Tune in thursdays for wall to wall JETS sandwitched around your shltty little teams football game!” ” Right here on the Nfl Jetwork..”

    Exactly. And a replay of the 8 games the Jets won last season….all right here on the “jetwork’.Ha.

  • fingers

    Somebody made the mistake of telling Michael Irving that he gave a good speech at his HOF induction and now he won’t shut up…

  • GForce21

    Raider O Says:
    August 5th, 2012 at 10:49 am

    Mike Florio is an IDIOT! Trade or cut TP because Reggie didn’t draft him? Why develop a QB with talent, they should draft another QB?
    Elfin Monkey!
    ——————

    Same thing I thought. Florio has some really out of left field takes on things.

  • fingers

    Irvin

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Pretty soon they’ll be rewriting history and telling us the Jets really won the last 4 SB’s.
    $$$$$$$$$$$

    I hope not. Dumb Irving will demand that we call it the Lombardi- Rex trophy.

  • xraided

    i think he’ll do better than Wimbley did for us last year. maybe not as many pressures as Kam, but he’ll certainly replace that with solid run D.

    yes fair enough. his hips are too stiff. but Wimbley was a one trick pony also.. and he is a successful pass rusher.

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Irvin*

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    fingers Says:
    August 5th, 2012 at 1:20 pm

    Somebody made the mistake of telling Michael Irving that he gave a good speech at his HOF induction and now he won’t shut up…
    ============================================

    You guys can understand Irvin? That’s amazing. I can’t understand what that guy says, but then again I never learned “crackhead”.

  • fingers

    221… Good one

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    I think Shaughnessy will be a good pass rusher, but I still think he is a better fit at LDE. I like my RDE to have more burst/ speed.

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    The Only time in years Al decided to draft the best available football player instead of the athletic freak, and JPP makes him/ us regret it.
    We should have drafted JPP over McClain. Who knew?

  • Method To My Madness

    A DT’s first responsibility is the run….you guys who wanna use TK’s stat sack is pointless….as bad as he is vs the run he would have to get 12 Sacks to offset it…..sorry those 7 sacks just aint enough….as Charlie correctly pointed out(as I’ve said countless times) against better olines Kelly is trash. Sick of watching him on the team. Who has started on the dline in every position since 2004? Tommy Kelly!

    And this lie that Seymour is dominant needs to stop. He hasn’t been dominant in about 4 years. The Raiders have him outta position as it is….come on Seymour taking on double teams vs the run? Disaster and thats why we see Raiders run D still suck….dont give me the hurt excuse….many are and he just sucks plain and simple

  • DJ Johnny

    As far as as the “Jetwork’s” Jet coverage, i’ve seen less propaganda in Joseph Goebbels films.

  • Charlie

    SnB

    Great point about mailing it in but the reasons why it happened were clear.

    Other than Gallery and Grove, the Raiders ignored both lines for ten years when it came to using draft picks in the first two rounds.
    Longest that has ever happened in the hsitory of the Raiders.

    As a result we became depserate bottom feeders for line talent. Sapp, Henderson, Warren, Ellis, Sands generated the same results as Seymour and Kelly. Overpaid and way past their prime. (Remember Seymour arrived the week after the Saints dropped 35 on us in one half of a preseason game- DESPERATE).

    The Oline was the same with guys like Erik Pears (human traffic cone), Cornell Green, Kwame Harris and Jeremy Newberry.

    There will be changes on the Dline. Shaughnessy and Tollefson will help but I am afraid more is needed.

  • Method To My Madness

    Raider O Says:
    August 5th, 2012 at 1:34 pm
    I think Shaughnessy will be a good pass rusher, but I still think he is a better fit at LDE. I like my RDE to have more burst/ speed.
    ********************8

    Exactly…Shaughnessy to LDE and Houston to UT…..we need a real NT and RDE…but watch the Kelly and Seymour ass kissers lie and say otherwise

  • DJ Johnny

    Method,

    Do you trust DA to make changes to make sure guys are in their rightful spots this season?

    He seems like a smart guy who wants to win.

  • Method To My Madness

    Charlie Says:
    August 5th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
    SnB

    Great point about mailing it in but the reasons why it happened were clear.

    Other than Gallery and Grove, the Raiders ignored both lines for ten years when it came to using draft picks in the first two rounds.
    Longest that has ever happened in the hsitory of the Raiders.

    As a result we became depserate bottom feeders for line talent. Sapp, Henderson, Warren, Ellis, Sands generated the same results as Seymour and Kelly. Overpaid and way past their prime. (Remember Seymour arrived the week after the Saints dropped 35 on us in one half of a preseason game- DESPERATE).

    The Oline was the same with guys like Erik Pears (human traffic cone), Cornell Green, Kwame Harris and Jeremy Newberry.

    There will be changes on the Dline. Shaughnessy and Tollefson will help but I am afraid more is needed.
    ****************

    I agree…but Hendu was closest thing we had as a run stuffer in 10 years….but he was old…damn shame to see raiders still trotting guys in their 30s out at DT

    More is needed…..we dont have the speed on the edge to cause enough havoc

  • Method To My Madness

    DJ Johnny Says:
    August 5th, 2012 at 1:43 pm
    Method,

    Do you trust DA to make changes to make sure guys are in their rightful spots this season?

    He seems like a smart guy who wants to win.
    ****************

    As Jason Jones of the SacBee agreed with me on Friday avbout….the coaches will have a smoke and mirrors defense due to us not having the personnel for a top tier defense…you lack pass rushing DEs, lack run stuffers and lack playmakers in secondary

    Yes I think the coaches will put something in there that masks those issues but eventually against elite teams its exposed

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    Method To My Madness Says:
    August 5th, 2012 at 1:39 pm

    A DT’s first responsibility is the run….you guys who wanna use TK’s stat sack is pointless….
    =======================================

    And while that DT is playing run, Tom Brady, Aaron rodgers, Ben Rothleisberger, Peyton Manning, Eli Manning, Phillip Rivers et al, are picking the secondary to pieces like a hungry vulture. What you say is true, it was just true in 1983. Not 2012.

  • TxRaider210
  • DJ Johnny

    After all this ‘Jetwork’ talk I went upstairs and flipped on the “jetwork” and whattya know??? They were doing some feature on the greatness of Revis…

    No matter what they are doing, or what segment they are on you are only a few minutes away from the Jets news we all crave.

  • lefty12

    A DT’s first responsibility is the run….you guys who wanna use TK’s stat sack is pointless….
    ===================
    Not in the defense the Raiders used to play.That is what many don’t understand.Under Davis their responsibility was primarily to get after the passer.

  • DJ Johnny

    I just love the Jets so much. Every night I watch my replay of the ’69 Super Bowl.

    I also like to gaze at my Richard Todd poster.

  • PlunkforHOF

    Hey Marks Hair… I’ve been noticing your posts are pretty negative about the Raiders and our players. Got anything positive to say about our team, or are you just MR with a mullet?

  • DJ Johnny

    If our defense is as bad as u guys are suggesting than it’s not neccessarily the end of the world.

    GB gave up most pass yds. in NFL HISTORY last yr. and went 15-1. New Eng. was 29th (i believe)?, and NYG not much better.

    Of course a bad defense is not something you strive for but it has been overcome by an very good offense.

    (an excerpt from “The Kool Aid Files”)

  • RaiderRockstar

    new post

  • lefty12

    PlunkforHOF Says:
    August 5th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
    Hey Marks Hair… I’ve been noticing your posts are pretty negative about the Raiders and our players. Got anything positive to say about our team, or are you just MR with a mullet?
    =====================
    If you’ve noticed a lot of the negative nellies are returning.

  • Method To My Madness

    Wooooooooooooooooooooo….Reddick witha deep shot….4-1 A’s….let’s go Oakland!

  • DJ Johnny

    There is hope for the defense.

    Miles Burris. He will be one of those guys that rushes the passer from either side…rotating and causing havoc.

    Wheeler will surprise and be a stud.

    McClain will have his breakout yr.

    Shonasty is back and healthy.

    Seymour will make his grand comeback.

    Better coaching.

    The kool aid is tasty today…come on and have ye some.

  • xraided

    Method,

    Seymour’s skills have diminished… and TK can’t stop the run. these are true… one cannot deny this. but why does Reggie keep them around if both are such bad players?

    they come at a high price tag. is it because he doesn’t have a choice and they’re the best he can find?

    well, BigMac left us near empty by getting rid of our “best pass rusher” and “best CB” on the team … it’s hard to imagine him having a problem getting rid of these clowns…

    with that said, that’s why i have been lobbying a trade of Robinson for TK! i’d do that in a heart beat! we can ditch TK’s horrible penalties.

  • xraided

    BTW,

    i’m sure BigMac will go for some big free agent DT to spell Seymour sometime next off season or the one after it…

    i guess i have a soft spot for them because i liked what they did against our division in 2010 .. they ruined QueefCassel, CryRivers, and Orton’s lives that year…

    i’d rather have good run stoppers at this point.

  • xraided

    freakin A’s man… i hate not expecting losses from them!

    what’s great is, even if they lose, they have some to give! they are ahead of everyone right now in the first wildcard.

    when was the last time we were able to say that?!

    let’s hope DA is as good as a skipper as Bob Melvin is for the A’s

  • Raidernationdave

    Whut up ma beyotches!