Temperature, intensity levels drop for one day
By Steve Corkran
Wednesday, August 8th, 2012 at 1:52 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Six straight practices with pads on, combined with a spike in temperature, and high effort from the players resulted in Raiders coach Dennis Allen throwing the players a bone Wednesday.
The players were allowed to practice in shorts and without pads today as a means of paying them back for the past week’s showing and keeping them fresh for the long haul.
“We were going to go full pads today,” Allen said, “but we felt like the team has been giving us everything they got, and it was time for us to kind of take a little bit off of them.”
The players’ response, coach?
“It went over pretty good,” Allen said. “The guys, obviously, they appreciate it when you cut it back a little bit on them and give them a chance to recover some. They got the day off tomorrow, so they’ll have a full day off to really recover.”
As a result, there wasn’t any full-blown contact today, just a lot of running plays, getting in position to make tackles and working on fundamentals.
Veteran cornerback Ron Bartell, for one, actually was disappointed to learn of the decision to go without pads, given today was the first day he was cleared to go full tilt since returning from his hamstring injury.
“Yeah, that’s crazy,” Bartell said. “I was actually looking forward to getting full pads on. I’m probably the only guy on the team that felt that way. But guys’ legs were getting heavy, so it was a great call by coach to get guys out of the pads, lighten up the load a little bit. It was a little disappointing, but I’ll have enough time.”
– Running back Mike Goodson is doing better, Allen said, less than 24 hours after he and strong-side linebacker Philip Wheeler collided on a short pass over the middle.
“He’s still a little sore, so we’ll have to monitor him and see where he’s at,” Allen said.
Sore, yes, but a great deal better than he was Tuesday, when he lay on the field, unable to move much, awaiting an ambulance to take him to a nearby hospital.
Goodson was given CT and MRI exams to determine the extent of his injury. When the tests returned negative, Goodson was released.
Goodson was not at practice today, and he was unavailable for comment. Allen said he isn’t sure how long Goodson will be sidelined. In fact, Allen isn’t ruling Goodson out for Monday night’s exhibition opener against the Dallas Cowboys.
Bartell suffered a similar injury in his only game with the St. Louis Rams. The one difference, he was able to walk off the field under his own power.
“That’s a tough situation,” Bartell said. “I had a similar situation this past year, so I can definitely sympathize with what he was feeling at the time. I’m just glad to see that he’s OK. It was a scare to all of us.
“It’s a bad part of the game. It’s what we sign up for. You never want to see that happen. but we understand that it is always that possibility. It’s what we do.”
– The smart money says, Goodson and Taiwan Jones (hamstring) won’t play Monday, with lead back Darren McFadden getting limited action.
That means a heavy dose of first-year player Lonyae Miller, something he can use as a long-shot to make the 53-man roster.
“I would expect that he would be tired after Monday night’s game,” Allen said of Miller’s expected workload.
Miller, 6-foot and 230 pounds, is an interesting story. He is a Fresno State product, with familiarity to running backs coach Kelly Skipper and a rare combination of size, speed and strength.
He is a player that looks like he knows what he’s doing in any situation, runs hard, is decisive and is hell-bent upon getting extra yardage.
That isn’t lost on Allen and the other coaches.
“I’ve been impressed with what Lonyae’s been able to do,” Allen said. “He’s a different type of back than the other backs that we’ve got. He’s a little bit more of a downhill, pounder type guy. He doesn’t have quite the same explosiveness as those other guys but he’s been a consistent runner.
“What I’ve seen and what he’s done in the zone scheme is, he’s understood what his reads are, he’s made the proper reads, got his pads downhill and made some yards.”
Miller said he patterns his game after a slew of running backs.
“I liked Terrell Davis growing up watching him,” Miller said of the former Denver Broncos standout, “but I just kind of take a little bit from everybody. Marshawn Lynch, (Adrian) Peterson, I watch film on all those guys, Arian Foster, just try and incorporate it into my game.”
Miller played in four games for the Dallas Cowboys in 2010. He signed with the Raiders late last season but didn’t appear in any games.
He said he isn’t making too much of the opportunity that awaits Monday. It’s just another step in the process.
“I’m trying to take what D.A. says in meetings, as far as, ‘There’s no light at the end of the tunnel’ and ‘just focus on the day’ just ‘seize the day,’ and that’s pretty much been my philosophy throughout training camp,” Miller said. “Just take everything day by day and let the chips fall where they may.”
– Bartell will be playing in an NFL game Monday for the first time since he suffered his neck injury in the Rams’ regular-season opener Sept. 11.
He said he is eager to get back on the field after spending the better part of the past year rehabilitating from his neck injury, even if it is just an exhibition game.
“I’m looking forward to just playing football,” Bartell said. “I don’t care if it’s Monday, Tuesday, it doesn’t matter. I’m just happy to be back on the field, be healthy, and be in a situation perfect for me, with a great group of guys that I get to play with, a good coaching staff, a good front office.
“It’s just a blessing to have another chance, another opportunity, and especially have an opportunity with such a storied franchise as the Raiders. So, from that standpoint, I just feel blessed.”
– Play of the day: Wheeler stepped in front of a Carson Palmer dart for tight end Brandon Myers near the goal line for an impressive interception.
– Palmer called for a penalty flag on Wheeler on the play. Allen said that’s not surprising.
“He thought (the receiver) got held,” Allen said of Palmer. “So, we’ll … it’s funny, offense, they always think it’s (pass interference), and defense never thinks it is. That’s just the way it is. We’ll look at it on tape and we’ll see who’s right.”
– Wide receiver Jacoby Ford returned kicks the past two seasons. If he gets his way, he’ll get the opportunity to add punt returns to his repertoire this season.
“I’m definitely excited about doing punt returns,” Ford said. “That’s something I’ve been wanting to do for a long time now. But since I’ve been here, I just wasn’t allowed to. Now that I’m going to definitely get the opportunity to do it, I’m going to make the best of the opportunity and definitely try to score or just set the offense up to have a short field.”
Denarius Moore was the primary punt returner last season, though others got an opportunity when Moore was hurt. Moore and Ford have been working in that capacity since training camp started, along with rookie Juron Criner.
Ford said the thinking in the past was to concentrate on playing receiver and returning kicks. Former special teams coach John Fassel was wary of overusing Ford.
“They just wanted me to do the kickoffs and just kind of wait, kind of work me in,” Ford said. “The thing is, they didn’t want to burn me out. That’s what our old special teams coach said. Just kind of stuck with kick return at first.”
– Kicker Sebastian Janikowski joined an ever-burgeoning list of players unable to practice. In his case, though, he wasn’t able to go today because of sickness, according to Allen.
Punter Shane Lechler (knee), Moore (hamstring), receiver Eddie McGee (hamstring), Jones (hamstring), defensive tackle Richard Seymour (knee), defensive end Jack Crawford (foot) and linebacker Aaron Curry (knee) also missed practice.
That left the Raiders with only 79 players healthy enough to practice. The day off Thursday, in addition to a light day Sunday, should help the players recover from the initial grind of camp.
– Allen is big on players earning playing time. He said he isn’t big on giving players promotions, so to speak, without their earning such.
For evidence, fifth-year cornerback Pat Lee practiced with the second-team defense today after spending the early part of camp fighting for reps.
“He’s been improving every day,” Allen said. “That’s the things that we look for. When guys step up and they make some plays, they earn the right to move up the depth chart some.
“Like I’ve said before, nothing right now is set in concrete. When guys earn that right, we’ll move them up and give them an opportunity and see what they do with it.”
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August 8th, 2012 at 1:58 pm
Miller, 6-foot and 230 pounds, is an interesting story. He is a Fresno State product, with familiarity to running backs coach Kelly Skipper and a rare combination of size, speed and strength.
He is a player that looks like he knows what he’s doing in any situation, runs hard, is decisive and is hell-bent upon getting extra yardage.
That isn’t lost on Allen and the other coaches.
“I’ve been impressed with what Lonyae’s been able to do,” Allen said.
“He’s a different type of back than the other backs that we’ve got. He’s a little bit more of a downhill, pounder type guy. He doesn’t have quite the same explosiveness as those other guys but he’s been a consistent runner.
“What I’ve seen and what he’s done in the zone scheme is, he’s understood what his reads are, he’s made the proper reads, got his pads downhill and made some yards.”
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Come on Lonyae, there’s a role for you out there to grab.
August 8th, 2012 at 1:58 pm
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August 8th, 2012 at 1:58 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
August 8th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
523.Goldie7 Says:
August 8th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
Yep DJ…Palmer must eliminate those darn INTs. Palmer would be a top 10 QB if he would improve on not throwing INTs.
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He takes some risks. He has alot of confidence. But yes..definitely needs to cut down on those int’s.
He needs to get back to 2005 form when he went for 32 td’s and 12 int’s almost 4,000 yds.
Beat Manning that yr (stat wise) even though Manning’s Colts went 14-2.
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In this life you gotta take risks….as much as it pisses me off when he tosses an INT…i gotta admire his guts for believing he can beat it
August 8th, 2012 at 2:00 pm
Yo DJ
I’ve been saving this dope 2K4S jam until our next PM Party Patrol meeting, but I can’t keep it in the bag any longer
It’s called “Homecoming King Moonwalk” and we just started shooting the video yesterday
I’ll be playing the Homecoming King, and I’ll moonwalk in a 70 yard td, then make out with the head cheerleader while Slash does this massive guitar solo in the locker room
Check it:
Hey Girl, you know I wrote you this song
Gonna go for it, ’cause it’s 4th and long
Takin’ it all the way like Mr. Spock
‘Cause you know I’m gonna score with my 70 yd moonwalk
August 8th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
Some of us have hope for you, we want you as the power back and not Ced Benson, show your stuff kid.
August 8th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
Checking in from Monterey.
Life is good!
Seymour cut yet?
Our offense is going to slice & dice.
Mope & change
August 8th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
Bring it! Bring the Heat! Thanks Cork!
August 8th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
B,now you’re getting it.While we don’t want to see them they will happen.The key is to limit them.
August 8th, 2012 at 2:08 pm
Amen,Bob.
August 8th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
Hey Girl, you know I wrote you this song
Gonna go for it, ’cause it’s 4th and long
Takin’ it all the way like Mr. Spock
‘Cause you know I’m gonna score with my 70 yd moonwalk
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I was anticipating the last line being “70 yd. jock”. But you kept it clean for the kids.
August 8th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
August 8th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
Hey Girl, you know I wrote you this song
Gonna go for it, ’cause it’s 4th and long
Takin’ it all the way like Mr. Spock
‘Cause you know I’m gonna score with my 70 yd moonwalk
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I was anticipating the last line being “70 yd. jock”. But you kept it clean for the kids.
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If there’s a deal in the works with Lotrimin I can always do
Yo, girl, go make a wish
And get me some Lotrimin for my 70 yd jock itch
August 8th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
I can see playing that song as the opener for school proms.
August 8th, 2012 at 2:24 pm
Dr.Death @26DrDeath
A fan asked Reggie today “when u signing benson ” reg said “it’s not up to me it’s up to him”
August 8th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
Come on Lonyae, there’s a role for you out there to grab.
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At least we should see some good collisions and hard nosed running. Who knows what will happen later when it comes down to crunch time and guys are still hurt.
August 8th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
Amazing that so much can get done in just a couple wks. of practice.
Nobody ever mentions how much time they spend in meetings and film room.
Is that what they are doing before coming out to the field most days?
I’ve never played pro football (surprise) so I don’t know.
August 8th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
13.HGDaddy Says:
August 8th, 2012 at 2:24 pm
Dr.Death @26DrDeath
A fan asked Reggie today “when u signing benson ” reg said “it’s not up to me it’s up to him”
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Hmmmm. If that’s true, than expect an announcement soon.
Benson will take league min. if that’s all he can get.
Better than nothing.
August 8th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
Amazing that so much can get done in just a couple wks. of practice.
Nobody ever mentions how much time they spend in meetings and film room.
Is that what they are doing before coming out to the field most days?
I’ve never played pro football (surprise) so I don’t know.
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Yeah man, the field is just where they do Practical application so to speak. Like in EMT school…..8-10 hour lectures per week, tests and quizzes weekly, tons of reading and homework every night. Then the Lab (where we put skills into effect).
Definately spent least amount of time in Labs….Just like practice on the field. TONS of work off the field.
August 8th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
I’ve got a little jibing back and forth with a dallas fan.
I said if Raiders win it means everything in the world. If they lose…it’s just preseason man.
August 8th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
17,
Thanks Ghost. I knew they did film and study etc. but wondered how much.
August 8th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
For sure DJ
August 8th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
In case you missed the end of the last post,
Im calling you fake @$$ wannabe rap clowns out for a real battle!
Raider J Says:
August 8th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
Beech, your a bum, Hip Hop ain’t for you
I see your name and instinctively ignore you
but Im bored and wanna let you know you cant out rhyme me
while you get your salad tossed by DJ Johnny
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
You can try to ignore but there’s more instore
your folklore ’bout fake whores should be no more
My flowz real and hardcore
crush you like Oahu’s north shore
you both suck like groupies on my world tour
August 8th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
My boy Pat Lee rising up the charts.
We are going to be fine at CB folks!
August 8th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
MistaBrown Says:
August 8th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
Checking in from Monterey.
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Did a bunch of bottles and cans wash up on shore?
August 8th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
August 8th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
530.Goldie7 Says:
August 8th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
Lefty….Palmer would be No. 10 because he didn’t take the Bengals far into the playoffs. That nasty injury to his leg several years back could be part of the reason he throws sooo many darn INTs.
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Palmer would’ve gone deep that yr. if Karl Van Doofenhoven or whatever his name is, didn’t roll on his ankle on the first series.
You know this Goldie; no team has gotten more breaks than the stealers.
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So true DJ.
August 8th, 2012 at 2:45 pm
Raider J,
Whoa. Where did this come from? I don’t recall getting into any rap battles with you, or any other kind of battles.
I’m a classic rock announcer, not a club dj.
I’m sure I could come up with something though.
Jeez.
August 8th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
25. Nothing personal. Im just an ol’ skool Hip Hop MC beast having a lil’ fun. Lol. Go Raiders!
August 8th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
Lonyae Miller gonna run for over a buck on Monday?
August 8th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
Raider J, those are some of the saddest rhymes this blog has ever been exposed to
Nob Raider just breathed a sigh of relief that he’s not the dweebiest hip hop internet goober on the planet anymore
Anyway blog scrub, hit me up once you lose your virginity.
Then I’ll set you up with a pre school rap battle with Sam Borg the Uber Goober
Battle of small bus goofs, PM Party Posse in FULL EFFECT
August 8th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
Beeeatch
Passive aggressive I see
but no rhyme response
classic b*tch move
August 8th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
Want to make sure Kell doesn’t miss this.
Hey Kell,
Check this out.
For $99 my neighbor took a Real Estate Course, and now has her license.
She’s now the same level as you.
For $99.00.
Maybe you should take a refresher course, considering you haven’t had any listings in years.
Groupon listed it again. You should consider it, Kell
http://www.groupon.com/deals/american-school-of-real-estate-express-1?c=all&p=12
Choose Between Two Options
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August 8th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
Beech Dawg, you congenital handfkr, get a life.
August 8th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
“Takin’ it all the way like Mr. Spock
‘Cause you know I’m gonna score with my 70 yd moonwalk”
…but this is quality?
you might as well admit to your submission directly
1…2…3…
August 8th, 2012 at 3:01 pm
Oooh.. I thought they were just weird poems..
August 8th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
Good timing, Kell.
What do you think of that deal?
Doesn’t say much for your line of work when someone can do exactly what you do, for under a sawbuck, but this course could help you.
August 8th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
RaydaSwagger Says:
August 8th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
Want to make sure Kell doesn’t miss this.
Hey Kell,
Check this out.
For $99 my neighbor took a Real Estate Course, and now has her license.
She’s now the same level as you.
For $99.00.
Maybe you should take a refresher course, considering you haven’t had any listings in years.
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Do I know you? Which cross-poster are you?
August 8th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
Some of you guys still taunting poor biachi? She is so sad. If I had a choice of hanging out in a line at the DMV or reading biachis lame posts, I would go for the DMV line. It moves faster.
August 8th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
http://blogs.mercurynews.com/kawakami/2012/08/08/carson-palmer-on-his-hyper-rushed-raiders-2011-season-i-didnt-even-read-every-page-of-the-playbook-i-didnt-even-read-50-of-it/
August 8th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
Man, Jets-Bengals on Friday.
Gradkowski vs. Tebow battle it out.
Woooo……someone open a window!!!
August 8th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
– Allen is big on players earning playing time. He said he isn’t big on giving players promotions, so to speak, without their earning such.
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Bout freaking time! No more scholarships, get the guys who want to play hard out on the field. Could be a contender this year. Hope so anyway.
Anybody know what’s up with Lechler? Pulled a hammy on his last golf game or what?
August 8th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
August 8th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
Some of you guys still taunting poor biachi? She is so sad. If I had a choice of hanging out in a line at the DMV or reading biachis lame posts, I would go for the DMV line. It moves faster.
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That’s actually kinda funny
August 8th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 8th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
Man, Jets-Bengals on Friday.
Gradkowski vs. Tebow battle it out.
Woooo……someone open a window!!!
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Enjoy, Be Safe. Lol.
August 8th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
Raider J Says:
August 8th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
Beeeatch
Passive aggressive I see
but no rhyme response
classic b*tch move
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Ha, nice flame out, Radier Gay
And just like that – I OWN you
HOLLA
August 8th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
August 8th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
Ha, nice flame out, Radier Gay
And just like that – I OWN you
HOLLA
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*Note: It’s a very common for trolls to claim they own you; I whipped your azz, ie I beat you……
August 8th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
Raiders depth chart has 5 LB’s that are all 6′2 236-240 lbs, talk about prototypical size.
August 8th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
KoolKell Says:
August 8th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
Beech Dawg, you congenital handfkr, get a life.
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KrappyRat the Troll King, please remind the blog again how much you hate name calling
Or about how you only talk Raiders on the blog
Both are equally entertaining, holla
August 8th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
Steve Corkran @CorkOnTheNFL
Jacoby Ford says he wasn’t “allowed to” return punts his first two seasons with the #Raiders. Excited about prospect of doing so this season
August 8th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
Lonyae Miller gonna run for over a buck on Monday?
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Prolly…..I’d say he should after 30 carries or so. LOL
August 8th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
Jacoby is listed as the starter for all returns, should do great!
August 8th, 2012 at 3:19 pm
My apologies to Jacoby for not returning punts in years past.
I thought he was just chicken, lol.
Great news!!!
August 8th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
In the mornings I can’t wait to get rid of the things filling my butthole.
So you’ll find it a bit perplexing then for me to understand how a dude can enjoy having somebody’s tool shoved up there.
August 8th, 2012 at 3:25 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
August 8th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
Both are equally entertaining, holla
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Disrupting a stable newsgroup gives the illusion of power, just as for a few, stalking a strong person allows them to think they are strong, too.
For trolls, any response is ‘recognition’; they are unable to distinguish between irritation and admiration; their ego grows directly in proportion to the response, regardless of the form or content of that response.
Trolls, rather surprisingly, dispute this, claiming that it’s a game or joke; this merely confirms the diagnosis; How Sad Do You Have To Be To Find Such Mind-Numbingly Trivial Timewasting To Be Funny?
August 8th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
theghostronin79 Says:
August 8th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
Lonyae Miller gonna run for over a buck on Monday?
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Prolly…..I’d say he should after 30 carries or so. LOL
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Yeah man I only want DMAC out there for about a series, as you said. Taiwan and Goodson should fuel up for the AZ game, if healthy.
August 8th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
Beech Dawg,
How Sad Do You Have To Be To Find Such Mind-Numbingly Trivial Timewasting To Be Funny?
August 8th, 2012 at 3:28 pm
Dude, you go sideways more than anyone here. Sho gotz yo nerve Krappy Kell!
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KoolKell Says:
August 8th, 2012 at 3:25 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
August 8th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
Both are equally entertaining, holla
———————————–
Disrupting a stable newsgroup gives the illusion of power, just as for a few, stalking a strong person allows them to think they are strong, too.
For trolls, any response is ‘recognition’; they are unable to distinguish between irritation and admiration; their ego grows directly in proportion to the response, regardless of the form or content of that response.
Trolls, rather surprisingly, dispute this, claiming that it’s a game or joke; this merely confirms the diagnosis; How Sad Do You Have To Be To Find Such Mind-Numbingly Trivial Timewasting To Be Funny?
August 8th, 2012 at 3:29 pm
KrappyRat the Troll King
Funny how you cut and paste your Troll article over and over again, when you’re the biggest troll on the blog
Everyone here would easily agree with that statement.
Pretty hysterical, yes?
August 8th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
Whats up fellas
August 8th, 2012 at 3:34 pm
TxRaider210 Says:
August 8th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
theghostronin79 Says:
August 8th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
Lonyae Miller gonna run for over a buck on Monday?
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Prolly…..I’d say he should after 30 carries or so. LOL
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Yeah man I only want DMAC out there for about a series, as you said. Taiwan and Goodson should fuel up for the AZ game, if healthy
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I see DMAC breaking one in the first series
August 8th, 2012 at 3:35 pm
Runs that is……
August 8th, 2012 at 3:35 pm
Dan
That is very possible, run or catch on the swing.
August 8th, 2012 at 3:37 pm
I’m sure running that fast, some RB’s “break one” while breaking one.lol
August 8th, 2012 at 3:37 pm
Looks like Lonyae miller gonna have a big load to carry on Monday night, I hope he balls out. My bro was friends with him and played high school football with him at Kaiser in Fontana. He went to a party with me and my bros. He was a big dude back then. He was quiet. He lived clean, meaning while we were blowing that green and sipping, he wasn’t partaking. Which is good. He was a hard worker, his dad used to have him running sprints in their front yard. His neighbours were my homies, big raider fans. I’m excited to see how he performs.
August 8th, 2012 at 3:38 pm
Yeah man I only want DMAC out there for about a series, as you said. Taiwan and Goodson should fuel up for the AZ game, if healthy.
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I dunno man….Being that the AZ game is only 4 days later, Good/Jones may still be out. I gotta feelin’.
Jackson may get a load in AZ.
also could be a chance of having Benson by then too. Just never know. Sad part is, if we get a Grant or Benson, either Jones or Goodson is prolly as good as gone. Doubt it’ll be Jones……
August 8th, 2012 at 3:38 pm
On another topic, wasn’t Carrier supposed to play te? Someone on this blog suggestedsuch I believe, and someone else suggested that we wait and see who would get cut from new england. Therefore I’ve done a little research! With the exception of Gronnkowski & Hernandez, here are the following from ne roster listed ad name,height, weight, year experience & school!
Tyler Urban, 6′-5″, 249, rookie, West Virginia
Alex Silvestro, 6′-3″, 267, 1, Rutgers
Visanthe Shiancoe,6′-4″, 250, 10, Morgan State
Daniel Fells, 6′-4″, 252, 5, UC Davis
Jake Ballard, 6′6″, 275, 3, Ohio State
Who gets cut & who would the Raiders sign as free agent? Just for fun, maybe some of you know some info!
August 8th, 2012 at 3:39 pm
I bet Benson waiting for Training Camp to rap up before he signs…
just a gut feeling
August 8th, 2012 at 3:39 pm
Brahs
The quickest way to make KrappyRat disappear is to back him into a corner with his own stupid words
Then you’ll never see an old unemployed realtor high tail it for the hills faster
Yo Dan, Dave -
PMPP IN THE HIZZY
August 8th, 2012 at 3:39 pm
I see DMAC breaking one in the first series
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Yep, he breaks a nice run…..Heads back to the sideline….. Coach goes “Alright Darren, get that helmet off and have a seat bud.”
August 8th, 2012 at 3:40 pm
How it be Beech
August 8th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
Good oportunity for miller, hope he takes advantage and he plays against his old team thats gota be some motivation.
August 8th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
79
You’re right on the AZ situation, just think there’s lot of precautionary schit going on too. I think Taiwan would be cut before Goodson, if another back came in, don’t anticipate it though. I give Goodson the nod due to durability, he’s fine and Jones is always hurt.imo
August 8th, 2012 at 3:42 pm
Beeech,
42. Hip Hop 101 you cant win a rap battle without a rap.
28. “dweebiest…goober…scrub…virginity…goofs”
is not enough to counter entry #21.
go ahead and have fun with your 2k4s entries, I’ll leave you alone.
Seymour Bush Says:
August 8th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
Some of you guys still taunting poor biachi? She is so sad. If I had a choice of hanging out in a line at the DMV or reading biachis lame posts, I would go for the DMV line. It moves faster.
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You’re right SB,
I feel like a bully now. I was looking for a creative outlet and thought I could get into a rap battle but it was more like child abuse.
August 8th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
At least the guys got tomorrow OFF, then a light day Sunday. that should help. It’s almost like we need a damn BYE week already lol……
August 8th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
Are Fans still attending Training Camp or was that just last week?
August 8th, 2012 at 3:47 pm
Raider J Says:
August 8th, 2012 at 3:42 pm
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You’re right SB,
I feel like a bully now. I was looking for a creative outlet and thought I could get into a rap battle but it was more like child abuse.
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The ultimate blog surrender move – snuggling up to Peemore Bust
Keep in mind, lil nerd, that my blog rap octogon is reserved for true old skool playas, shout out to Kool Moe Dee
CHALK ANOTHA UP TO FREE LIVIN’
August 8th, 2012 at 3:48 pm
79
Yeah they need it man, that’s for sure. I just got a feelin that Goodson will be just fine and be the real deal this season.
August 8th, 2012 at 3:49 pm
Sorry about spelling…….alot of typing for an android!
August 8th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
Raider J Says:
August 8th, 2012 at 3:42 pm
You’re right SB,
I feel like a bully now. I was looking for a creative outlet and thought I could get into a rap battle but it was more like child abuse.
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The thing is J, she thinks child abuse is a good thing. Her step daddy and “Uncle Mike” should be home any minute now for the afternoon round of “Call of Duty” or the ever poular “Swallow the Swan”.
August 8th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
Yo, just walked out onto the sundeck to find 2 shorties 69ing in the hot tub to a little classic Miami Sound Machine
Hot Summer Nights indeed, y’all
Gonna do a few quick squats in the kitchen, splash on a little Drakkar Noir (for their pleasure) and go represent
Thankfully I’ve got 11 Magnums left in my drawer, just might be enough to make it through the night
WRECKS N EFFECT
August 8th, 2012 at 3:54 pm
I gather that I will chimy in later since you guys r busy trolling! I thought this was a Raider site! Thanks to guys that updated all the tweets & such about the practices the last few days!
August 8th, 2012 at 3:57 pm
Not sure if everybody heard this but the raiders addopted the 85% rule. i wonder if season tix sales were not as expected, or they just want to make sure that the fans get to watch the game on TV.
August 8th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
I think they did it for the fans.
August 8th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
Bust, try only dropping one weak joke at a time
When you try to pack in 3 or 4 bombs into a single post you end up tripping all over yourself and hysterically flaming out
Oh yeah and try not to hyperventilating when you press “Submit Comment”
August 8th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
1Nation#1 hi all!!!
#78……Amen to that.!!!
August 8th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
McFaddens_Sneakers Says:
August 8th, 2012 at 3:57 pm
Not sure if everybody heard this but the raiders addopted the 85% rule.
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I heard the Raiders did not adopt the rule.
August 8th, 2012 at 4:00 pm
P Guttierez said they adopted the rule
August 8th, 2012 at 4:03 pm
Ok, get it here first! thanks.
Kool with me.
August 8th, 2012 at 4:05 pm
Per PFT: Raiders addopt 85% rule….. link below
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/08/report-raiders-adopt-lower-blackout-threshold/
August 8th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
Yeah, I was thinking they didn’t need it.
August 8th, 2012 at 4:08 pm
85% Rule?
I read that we were mulling it over.
Got the 85% full = no blackout part.Whats the catch?
August 8th, 2012 at 4:10 pm
Anything over 85% is split with the visiting team 50/50, instead of 34%
August 8th, 2012 at 4:10 pm
Never mind….just read #86 Thanks M_S!!!
August 8th, 2012 at 4:11 pm
Anything fan friendly, why not..
August 8th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
Thanks KK….Wow guess we’re getting the Vegas spirit.
August 8th, 2012 at 4:13 pm
I was surprised too, didnt think they needed to that either, sold out every game last year, fans are exited. the gota pay the visiting team half of the sales after the 85% is sold. not sure whats the strategy but it looks like they trying to get the fans more exited that what we already are.
August 8th, 2012 at 4:14 pm
Good move by Reg and Mark, imo.
August 8th, 2012 at 4:14 pm
KoolKell Says:
August 8th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
Yeah, I was thinking they didn’t need it.
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Just admit it, old fool – you don’t have a job or any listings
How else do you explain trolling the blog night and day, 7 days a week, for 10 years?
August 8th, 2012 at 4:14 pm
I got a manko of circa 12 raiders stories on this site, bur i fast forwarded so I could ask; am i too late to join a fantasy football league?
Im sire a bunch of guys here wants to beat me =)
August 8th, 2012 at 4:14 pm
I am going to laugh if Cook blows another one
August 8th, 2012 at 4:16 pm
I wonder what the plan is if miller gets hurt during the game(knocking on wood as im tyiping) who else we got at running back?
August 8th, 2012 at 4:17 pm
Rashawn Jackson
August 8th, 2012 at 4:18 pm
I’ve been to a few stadiums in the country but have always been able to afford a home game or 2 every year.
Nothing like the top of Mt Davis in the pissing rain with a decent wind in your face.
August 8th, 2012 at 4:19 pm
They were using Reece at RB today as well, so maybe some carries for him.
August 8th, 2012 at 4:19 pm
Just saw a tweet from Paul Gutierrez,
Says DA said the collision wasn’t helmet to helmet.
August 8th, 2012 at 4:19 pm
Just fire>> that was close, A’s need to find a closer ASAP
August 8th, 2012 at 4:19 pm
McFaddens_Sneakers Says:
August 8th, 2012 at 4:16 pm
I wonder what the plan is if miller gets hurt during the game(knocking on wood as im tyiping) who else we got at running back?
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Hello Rashawn Jackson.
August 8th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
Trent richarsons already going back to visit dr. james andrews… Uh oh..
August 8th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
ok good to know we have someone else to run the rock. thanks for the info
August 8th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
Hey LMN….the typo’s in the last line make it sound a little different!!!
August 8th, 2012 at 4:23 pm
LMN …someone here was just looking for a fantasy fill in.Can go back and find it if you want.
August 8th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
Seemed to me Beeech was extending the olive branch.
I think there’s a little too much of taking things too seriously.
We’re all Raider fans here…(well most of us).
We’ve got that in common let’s start there.
August 8th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
Peace out Nation
August 8th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
later MS
August 8th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
August 8th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
Seemed to me Beeech was extending the olive branch.
I think there’s a little too much of taking things too seriously.
We’re all Raider fans here…(well most of us).
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She’s not a Raider fan. She’s a troll. A boring troll at that.
August 8th, 2012 at 4:28 pm
T.o ran a faster 40 for the hawks than he did out of college.. Thats a workout warrior..
August 8th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
Marks hair Says:
August 8th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
Trent richarsons already going back to visit dr. james andrews… Uh oh..
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Uh oh is right. Jamista Clown is going to heave up his Jumbo Jack and Colt 45 malty.
August 8th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
I’m from the midwest…and I walk around town in a bullet proof vest. Mfkers try to diss me when i’m walking my poodle…and try to steal my stuff…the whole kit and kaboodle.
I have a fat wife but I don’t need viagra…just a popsicle stick and a rubberband comin straight at ya.
I stand in line when I pay my insurance…the fat chicks in town love my physical endurance.
This style im rappin is straight outta the eighties…white bread schytt to get down with the fat ladies.
Now who can top that…WORD!
August 8th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
Haden will be suspended also for the Turds.
August 8th, 2012 at 4:33 pm
Amy’s 1st big move, on her own?
Nah, I heard she was very instrumental in the sellouts last year.
August 8th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
The turds…lol
August 8th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
August 8th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
I’m from the midwest…and I walk around town in a bullet proof vest. Mfkers try to diss me when i’m walking my poodle…and try to steal my stuff…the whole kit and kaboodle.
I have a fat wife but I don’t need viagra…just a popsicle stick and a rubberband comin straight at ya.
I stand in line when I pay my insurance…the fat chicks in town love my physical endurance.
This style im rappin is straight outta the eighties…white bread schytt to get down with the fat ladies.
Now who can top that…WORD!
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One of the 4 Founding Fathers of the PM Party Patrol
REPRESENT
August 8th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
bcz24 Says:
August 8th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
Hey Rock, if you see him, can you tell Dell to give up my spot this year in the league? He may have already, but I don’t want him holding a spot open for me.
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LMN here it is
August 8th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
DJ
Killer rap man, goin’ hard on the blog and yes, fat chicks need love too!lol
August 8th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
You know it Tex. Thx.
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One of the 4 Founding Fathers of the PM Party Patrol
REPRESENT
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Gots to keep it real out here in the burbs.
August 8th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
Yeah, keep it real, dk in hand.
August 8th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
Kell, Can u lighten up a bit?
August 8th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
DJ
Yep, represent man, the game Monday will give you and Beeecher more material, some baggin’ Cowgirls inspiration.
August 8th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
fat chicks need love too!lol
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I heard it is a better Cardiovascular workout!
August 8th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
Dutch
Sorta like rock climbing and jiu jitsu in one.
August 8th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/08/dennis-allen-sees-a-distinction-between-incentive-and-bounty/
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I watched DA on Rome a lil bit ago and was somewhat surprised he even answered Romes question on the bounty program BS
August 8th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
US country star Randy Travis found ‘drunk and naked’
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19188330
August 8th, 2012 at 4:54 pm
Opted in to the 85% rule? I’m surprised too. Was under the impression that season ticket sales were doing well based on the seats that are left.
August 8th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
KK
I posted the Randy link earlier, pretty hilarious schit to me!
August 8th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
Ima gonna get piss drunk, naked and off road in ma ole sports car in a construction zone, then struggle with the cops.lol
August 8th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
Marks hair Says:
August 8th, 2012 at 4:28 pm
T.o ran a faster 40 for the hawks than he did out of college.. Thats a workout warrior..
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Does anyone else see that big @ss elephant in the room?
August 8th, 2012 at 4:59 pm
I kinda like thew dude. Very embarassing.
August 8th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
Our WR corp should do just fine without TO imo.
August 8th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
Dj that was off the hook man
keep doing your thing
+ more cushin for the pushin
August 8th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
128.realtruraider Says:
August 8th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/08/dennis-allen-sees-a-distinction-between-incentive-and-bounty/
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I watched DA on Rome a lil bit ago and was somewhat surprised he even answered Romes question on the bounty program BS
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I am too. Not good. Comments like that can open up scrutiny on DA.
We’re trying to get away from being scrutinized unjustly and the last thing we need is for Goodell to get ticked off at DA and be at odds with the league…again.
I’m not saying kiss their arses…keep it “Raider” or whatever, but undue league animosity toward us cost us a couple Super Bowls imo.
If I was a hardcore conspiracy theorist i would say possibly more than that.
August 8th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
Agree, We don’t need TO or Plax imo, we are set at WR
I just find it kinda of odd that TO ran a faster 40time than he did 17 years ago and before he blew his ACL, mmmmmm
August 8th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
Thanks Dan. Everybody needs to chill a bit and not take themselves and everything else so seriously.
August 8th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
138.realtruraider Says:
August 8th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
Agree, We don’t need TO or Plax imo, we are set at WR
I just find it kinda of odd that TO ran a faster 40time than he did 17 years ago and before he blew his ACL, mmmmmm
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Yeah. How is that possible? Good point.
August 8th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
T.O must of got the hookup from his boy Jose or Bonds
August 8th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
Today’s practice may have seemed light, but these guys were checkin each other, with no pads just helmet.
August 8th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
Quote for the day….
Kotex …. not the best thing in the world..
but next to it!!!
ODB.
August 8th, 2012 at 5:15 pm
* but the next best thing to it!!
August 8th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
I thought the Chicago song ‘Old Days’ was saying ‘Ko—-tex…’
I was an imaginitive lad.
August 8th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
Looking at the Seahawks Offense 2012
Tarvis Jackson QB
Marshawn Lynch RB
Sidney Rice WR
Terrell Owens WR (Playing W/ Chip On Shouder)
Braylon Edwards WR
Kellen Winslow TE
Zack Miller TE
The Talent is there. Should the 49ers be a little worried??
August 8th, 2012 at 5:35 pm
Terrell Owens WR (Playing W/ Chip On Shouder)
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…and ridiculous levels of testosterone.
August 8th, 2012 at 5:45 pm
I see Kawakami is back on the Raider beat. I liked him better when he was covering the niners….cuz I never read any of it.
It sounds as if he’s at least pretending to be fair.
I always thought his Raider stuff was tainted by the Herrera “incident” along with having Al’s disdain.
Now that Al’s gone he’s playing nice.
August 8th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
Who’s “Tarvis” Jackson?
August 8th, 2012 at 5:51 pm
It’s getting closer…I can hear it now…. Raiiidddeerrrssss as we walk into the stadium….
Stomp the chokers. …..
August 8th, 2012 at 5:51 pm
Fck the 49′ers! Who gives a rip if they are “a little worried??”
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Raider2DaHeart Says:
August 8th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
Looking at the Seahawks Offense 2012
Tarvis Jackson QB
Marshawn Lynch RB
Sidney Rice WR
Terrell Owens WR (Playing W/ Chip On Shouder)
Braylon Edwards WR
Kellen Winslow TE
Zack Miller TE
The Talent is there. Should the 49ers be a little worried??
August 8th, 2012 at 5:55 pm
Is this what life has finally come to? People on a “Raider” blog commenting on the 49′ers and if they are “a little worried”??
This is the NFL and I seriously doubt any one team “worries” about another team.
Back away from the crack pipe before you make such nuckle-fckn-head remarks.
August 8th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
#134: Kool Kell re: Randy Travis arrest: “I kinda like the dude”…Of course you do Kell…You finally found someone else who likes to get loaded on malt liquor and walk around naked…LMFAO.
August 8th, 2012 at 5:58 pm
It’s been a while since we had a QB that sounded as pumped to be a Raider as Palmer is…. Never got that from JC…
August 8th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
JC was too busy just trying to learn how to throw a deep pass.
August 8th, 2012 at 6:04 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNPknU0VSb0
August 8th, 2012 at 6:04 pm
Or JC was trying to perfect his head first slide … He never did get that right ..
August 8th, 2012 at 6:08 pm
Taiwan jones already injured in his 2nd consecutive training camp. We can’t have RBs on the roster that can stay healthy and can’t contribute to the team. McFadden is known to miss games, what good is a backup that can’t even make it through practices? Very disappointing.
What’s worst, Goodson gets hospitalized.
Goodson, get well soon. Taiwan, suck it up and get out there. Let’s see some Miller time in the mean time!
August 8th, 2012 at 6:11 pm
CanuckRaider Says:
August 8th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
JC was too busy just trying to learn how to throw a deep pass.
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I bet you have problems with the deep one too. Lol.
August 8th, 2012 at 6:17 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
August 8th, 2012 at 5:45 pm
I see Kawakami is back on the Raider beat. I liked him better when he was covering the niners….cuz I never read any of it.
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LOL. Makes 2 of us. Don’t care for that sniveling little punk.
August 8th, 2012 at 6:17 pm
158..yep.. These injuries are frustrating …don’t know how their avoided ….
August 8th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
Still LOL at Kawakami dropping the ‘I’ll sue you’ card like a school ground dweeb.
August 8th, 2012 at 6:24 pm
Seachickens suck. Whiners gonna have to contend with Lions, Giants, Packers, and Saints. Panthers and Bears could contend too. Those little fairies will have their hands full once they get to the playoffs. Yes, they’ll get to the playoffs unfortunately. Their a shoe-in in that cupcake division of theirs.
August 8th, 2012 at 6:24 pm
*They’re
August 8th, 2012 at 6:27 pm
Fingers Says:
August 8th, 2012 at 6:17 pm
158..yep.. These injuries are frustrating …don’t know how their avoided ….
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Not sure but tired of all these hamstrings. These guys stretching? Get in the friggin hot tub before the game/practice. Get those hammies loose!
August 8th, 2012 at 6:34 pm
Try some…the last few years have been Gawd awful for these Hammies … Maybe not running enough in the offseason,.. Just don’t know…
August 8th, 2012 at 6:44 pm
Wow I guess Jerry read my post, but all the trolls didn’t earlier. Granted I didn’t read post 80 to 178, just taught I would chimy in since ice been a member of this blog 02! Used too post daily but now I have other obligations….lol what ever happened to priest, raidercaine, who is mr. Or lefty, still enjoy Brien & Chris from NY , and now Rex Argyll just not into the full time trolling? Eventhough I don’t post now a day I still read this post daily.
Please keep on posting true raiders’s fan…… Raider on! I will catch up tomorrow!
August 8th, 2012 at 6:54 pm
V12 Ford on returning punts
“That’s something I’ve been wanting to do for a long time now.”
With more quality depth at WR, let him return kicks and punts.
http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2012/8/8/3229034/jacoby-ford-to-add-punt-returner-to-his-resume#storyjump
August 8th, 2012 at 6:59 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
August 8th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
But I wasnt arguing if he was a top QB….its the fact Carroll had an offense not conducive to his skill set…WCO that is….just like Palmer is not in one conducive to his strengths
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B, You should look up the stats. I looked up Bledsoe’s stats during 1997 to 1999 (Caroll yrs) and Bledsoe had some of his best stats during those years. Comp avg is 57% right at career avg, best ypc in career, avg sacks taken, and career best TDs. Napalm will have more weapons in Oak and will have a career best year this year.
August 8th, 2012 at 7:21 pm
it will be interesting to see if by CP rolling out shortens the field and lowers his INTs or will the west coast offense force him to make quicker decisions and led to more risky throws. not sure i can go overboard with any success he has in camp against our defense.
August 8th, 2012 at 7:26 pm
Randy Hanson arrested for assault with a deadly weapon. Hilarious.
August 8th, 2012 at 8:02 pm
@170
Saw a tweet that Napalm is dumping off to DMAC alot for any pressure and DMAC is gashing the D. I think the WCO will improve Napalm’s numbers dramatically. I’m going to call it a career yr.
August 8th, 2012 at 8:02 pm
171. LOL!
August 8th, 2012 at 8:27 pm
Chronicle Live @ChronLiveCSN & @PGutierrezCSN
Who is more important to the #Raiders new era: Dennis Allen or Reggie McKenzie? #CLBLITZ
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Paul G and CSN Bay Area are officially on MY LIST….
This is classless journalism….
August 8th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
Agreed #174. Paul can’t take any critiques at all. Dude blocked me on tweeter because I said he was 2 weeks late in reporting stuff that already happened and reported on this blog here.
August 8th, 2012 at 8:55 pm
Just goes to show how right you were AIG!
August 8th, 2012 at 8:57 pm
Anyone know who the boss is over at CSN Bay Area?
Oh wait, I do!
August 8th, 2012 at 9:03 pm
Two thumbs up to Michael Huff’s blog this week….he seemed to take it more seriously and I appreciate the effort.
Check it out if you have a moment.
http://www.raiders.com/news/blogs/article-1/Michael-Huffs-2012-Training-Camp-Blog/4164a138-3a6d-4395-89c8-ac032c1f98b0
August 8th, 2012 at 9:04 pm
170.nyraider Says:
August 8th, 2012 at 7:21 pm
it will be interesting to see if by CP rolling out shortens the field and lowers his INTs or will the west coast offense force him to make quicker decisions and led to more risky throws. not sure i can go overboard with any success he has in camp against our defense.
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Yeah. Even Caleb freaking Hanie was getting in a groove on our D last yr.
Our 2012 D “seems” better but until I see em on the field playing other teams I won’t believe it 100 %.
August 8th, 2012 at 9:05 pm
http://www.raiders.com/media-vault/photo-gallery/2012-Training-Camp-Day-9/60e57764-095a-4ea8-9280-62c4a77341e2#31684bc7-1780-4218-8f06-8ea21131afb5
Is that a roll of coins, or is Tarver just happy to see us?
August 8th, 2012 at 9:06 pm
it will be interesting to see if by CP rolling out shortens the field and lowers his INTs or will the west coast offense force him to make quicker decisions and led to more risky throws. not sure i can go overboard with any success he has in camp against our defense.
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I think it might help lower the interceptions and that’s an important consideration.
Still, don’t like the idea of CP in a Houston style offense.
To start with, I don’t like all the bootlegs. All the rolling one way and throwing to the other side of the field. It’s gimmicky crap. I’m all for the occasional roll out or moving pocket to alleviate pressure on the QB but not it being a staple of the offense.
Then you’ve got to wonder if CP is a good fit for that system. You’ve got a guy that’s not a spring chicken, has had reconstructive knee surgery, and you’re asking him to make more passes on the move.
Then you’ve got to consider the different release points that throwing on the move requires. I still say Palmer’s elbow injury has caused him to lose velocity on high torque throws. He can still get air under the ball and throw it a long way, but the throws that put the most stress on an elbow (the line drive ropes over the middle or to the sidelines) aren’t what they once were. Probably not a good idea to ask him to make too many tosses from differing release points.
About the only good thing I can say about running a Texan style offense that emphasizes QB mobility is it might help TP in the short term.
August 8th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
http://www.raiders.com/media-vault/photo-gallery/2012-Training-Camp-Day-9/60e57764-095a-4ea8-9280-62c4a77341e2#3e858f07-2f0b-4a4b-a8eb-482fefa806a2
Reece tells McClain how close he came to getting cut.
August 8th, 2012 at 9:11 pm
154.fingers Says:
August 8th, 2012 at 5:58 pm
It’s been a while since we had a QB that sounded as pumped to be a Raider as Palmer is…. Never got that from JC…
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Yeah, that is very cool about Palmer. JC NEVER said any of the stuff Palmer says as far as positive things about the org. even though Al gave him a great chance to lead the team; and paid him well too.
He couldn’t get to Chicago fast enough to hold Cutlers jock.
August 8th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
We’ve all been through this before.
Alot of excitement leading into the regular season just to watch the team fall apart.
The past two years have been especially brutal. Raiders have been sooooo close to getting over that .500 mark.
I hope that DA/Tarver can turn this defense into a squad that other teams would rather avoid.
August 8th, 2012 at 9:15 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
August 8th, 2012 at 9:06 pm
it will be interesting to see if by CP rolling out shortens the field and lowers his INTs or will the west coast offense force him to make quicker decisions and led to more risky throws. not sure i can go overboard with any success he has in camp against our defense.
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I think it might help lower the interceptions and that’s an important consideration.
Still, don’t like the idea of CP in a Houston style offense.
To start with, I don’t like all the bootlegs. All the rolling one way and throwing to the other side of the field. It’s gimmicky crap. I’m all for the occasional roll out or moving pocket to alleviate pressure on the QB but not it being a staple of the offense.
Then you’ve got to wonder if CP is a good fit for that system. You’ve got a guy that’s not a spring chicken, has had reconstructive knee surgery, and you’re asking him to make more passes on the move.
Then you’ve got to consider the different release points that throwing on the move requires. I still say Palmer’s elbow injury has caused him to lose velocity on high torque throws. He can still get air under the ball and throw it a long way, but the throws that put the most stress on an elbow (the line drive ropes over the middle or to the sidelines) aren’t what they once were. Probably not a good idea to ask him to make too many tosses from differing release points.
About the only good thing I can say about running a Texan style offense that emphasizes QB mobility is it might help TP in the short term.
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Raiderman99, I don’t know who you are nor is it important, but I find that I agree with many of your recent comments…and I am rarely one to agree…
Hopefully we won’t be using too many of these types of plays….for reasons you just mentioned.
August 8th, 2012 at 9:20 pm
(the line drive ropes over the middle or to the sidelines)
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I disagree with 1/2 of this statement.
Soup would lead DHB out of bounds while CP didn’t. I haven’t looked at stats but it would seem that Bey had a better back half of the season, partially due to that. Of course I’m probably wrong though.
August 8th, 2012 at 9:28 pm
As has been mentioned earlier….lot of those boots and rollouts are gonna be long handoffs to the RB’s and FB’s.
August 8th, 2012 at 9:30 pm
186.Raiders for life Says:
August 8th, 2012 at 9:20 pm
(the line drive ropes over the middle or to the sidelines)
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I disagree with 1/2 of this statement.
Soup would lead DHB out of bounds while CP didn’t. I haven’t looked at stats but it would seem that Bey had a better back half of the season, partially due to that. Of course I’m probably wrong though.
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I think you’re probably right about DHB’s 2nd half of season stats, but i have not noticed any lack of zip in Palmer’s passes.
Maybe u guys see it.
After a surgery like he had it would make sense that there would be a little loss of zip.
August 8th, 2012 at 9:34 pm
I say it would sense Palmer lost some zip cuz of elbow surgery but I don’t think he actually had surgery on it.
August 8th, 2012 at 9:37 pm
I don’t think the Raiders coaching staff is foolish enough to force Palmer to do things he is not gonna be good at.
I just don’t see them being that stubborn. They want to win.
August 8th, 2012 at 9:40 pm
“he led Orange County with a 203.9 QB rating. He was named to the First Team All-League and All-CIF despite suffering a stress fracture in his right foot.”
This tells me CP3 can 1: play with pain and 2:play with a QB rating I didn’t know existed.
High School stats etc from the Wiki.
August 8th, 2012 at 9:42 pm
Rolling to one side, means you pretty much have to throw to that side, which is limiting in itself.
August 8th, 2012 at 9:44 pm
“Palmer had tears of both the anterior cruciate and medial collateral ligaments as well as cartilage and meniscus damage.”….also from the wiki.
I guess that is surgery…man it’s amazing he can walk!!
August 8th, 2012 at 9:47 pm
KoolKell Says:
August 8th, 2012 at 9:42 pm
Rolling to one side, means you pretty much have to throw to that side, which is limiting in itself.
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Too true but doubt we’ll too much of it on the short side
August 8th, 2012 at 9:48 pm
*see
August 8th, 2012 at 9:53 pm
Doubt any of the playbook we’re seeing now is any thing but vanilla.CP3 said they had just finished the 1st install 4 times and there were 14 more to do….or words to that effect.
August 8th, 2012 at 9:56 pm
I think it’s going to be rollouts and crossing patterns this year.
August 8th, 2012 at 10:07 pm
You’re prolly right KK….man I can’t wait.CP3 and 4×1 meter relay @ WR + all the backs catch well too boot.
August 8th, 2012 at 10:07 pm
Twinkle Says:
August 8th, 2012 at 9:44 pm
“Palmer had tears of both the anterior cruciate and medial collateral ligaments as well as cartilage and meniscus damage.”….also from the wiki.
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So no elbow surgery?
I just don’t see the coaches forcing him to do things he can’t do.
Wouldn’t make sense.
Hopefully Al Saunders will keep ‘em in line if they get too weird.
August 8th, 2012 at 10:11 pm
and per Carson’s conversation in the last thread…
i totally agree with him when asking why everyone even talks about “a big change” in the offense he’s going to run… i mean, obviously it’s not the same BOOTSY GIMMICK-TRICK-PLAY-DEEP-VERTICAL-THREAT-PASSING-GAME-99%-OF-THE-TIME kind of offense, but the rollouts and bootlegs are just a manor of launch point … he won’t have any problems doing a half roll out, plant himself, and launch a 20 yard bullet to DHB for the first down…
i foresee a lot of what Schaub does in HOU … not just because of Knapp being his QB coach the last couple of years…
August 8th, 2012 at 10:11 pm
Wouldn’t you know. NFL “Jetwork”’s headline story on their “Headlines” bit is Jets camp.
August 8th, 2012 at 10:12 pm
“The cause of Palmer’s sore elbow was later diagnosed as a partially torn ligament and tendon and he was shelved for the remainder of the season. Palmer elected not to undergo Tommy John surgery to repair the damage; instead, he chose to rest the elbow to allow it to heal. By March 2009, Palmer said that he was “100 percent” again.” Wikipedia
August 8th, 2012 at 10:16 pm
Man CP3 heals up real well
August 8th, 2012 at 10:16 pm
DJ,
he was forced to launch the ball down field much of the time last year … while this offense is a WC style… it will be easier on his elbow!
August 8th, 2012 at 10:21 pm
# 200
Agreed…the man has a very strong and accurate arm.
I don’t want to set my stupid a$$ self up for the next fall off of the next bandwagon but geez….Plunk retired how many decades ago?
August 8th, 2012 at 10:24 pm
XRaided,
I would tend to think that way too, but backstage and Raiderman are suggesting throwing “ropes” down the sideline and lazers across the middle will lead to more strain on the elbow.
I have trust in the staff that they aren’t gonna force anything on Palmer and they’ll get input and work with him on what will work best for him.
It’s key of course that they figure all this out NOW. If Palmer’s gonna have issues with what Knapp and co. want, you don’t wanna find that out in week 4,5, or 6.
August 8th, 2012 at 10:27 pm
I want Palmer to be treated like Manning is in Denver. It’s the most important position in sports and you have to cater a bit to the QB and make him as comfortable as possible.
If Manning told Fox to dress up like a little girl and sing “I’m a little teapot” then I bet Fox is gonna do it.
August 8th, 2012 at 10:33 pm
DJ…100% means,I believe,that the elbow is not an issue.At Least to Palmer that is.And he sounds like he’s got a lot of zip from many of the guys reporting here daily….btw can’t say enough about you guys posting from camp each day….awesome and THANKS again.
August 8th, 2012 at 10:35 pm
I’ve liked Lonyae Miller since college. I recall campaigning for the Raiders to draft him late the year he came out and then when he went undrafted, I was really hoping we could pick him up as a UFA.
Anxious to see what he can do on Monday. I don’t think too many teams keep 4 HBs, but with the injury history and status of some of our other guys, I think it would be wise to reserve a spot for Lonyae on the final roster if he impresses this preseason.On top of the depth, he’s also got good size … and that makes him pretty unique among our current group at the position.
Go get it, Lonyae!
August 8th, 2012 at 10:37 pm
It’s a great night to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?!
Twinkle — Whoever you are, welcome…you can’t be just now figuring out that Carson Palmer can play? There are a few people who claim the guy can’t, but don’t let them cloud the truth.
CPalmer can play, and he can play as well as any QB in the League at times. There are plenty of people who believe with the right Team and situation CPalmer would’ve been one of the greats of his generation. He was in a big-time college program…where he ran an Offense much like the one being implemented here (some people claim he can’t, or never could do that, also). Odds are he’ll be better this year than last. We may even see CPalmer at his best…for more than a game or two at a time.
August 8th, 2012 at 10:38 pm
I do not want Palmer to be treated like our D is going to treat Manning in Denver.Can’t, for the life of me,figure out why PM didn’t come hauling a$$ to Alameda for a tryout…..not!!!
August 8th, 2012 at 10:42 pm
I’ve been thinking all offseason that D Moore would be our topWR this year. But more and more I just have this gut feeling that DHB is going to be the guy. Not sure who to take first among Raider WRs in fantasy drafts.
August 8th, 2012 at 10:44 pm
well, lonyae miller is gonna get his chance. it’s all about opportunity and here’s his. ron bartell had a neck injury almost a year ago and walked off the field. hasn’t played since. goodson was carted off. i wouldn’t be surprised if he missed a long time. taiwan is not a heavy-duty back. and dmc is fantastic but u have to be concerned about him making it thru 16 games. we will find out if lonyae is peyton hillis or a scrub. if lonyae looks mediocre, there will be a move for another back, either a free agent or thru another trade.
August 8th, 2012 at 10:48 pm
Chris In NY Says:
August 8th, 2012 at 10:42 pm
I’ve been thinking all offseason that D Moore would be our topWR this year. But more and more I just have this gut feeling that DHB is going to be the guy. Not sure who to take first among Raider WRs in fantasy drafts.
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dhb easily. look at facts. dhb is the ONLY guy on the team who has put up real numbers. moore is good but he’s hurt and he’s only a 2nd year guy. ford is a 3rd year guy and could break out but it’s a big maybe since he has never put up any kind of real stats in the nfl. dhb with over 60 catches and almost 100 yards and that’s with hue holding him back for awhile (still unexplained). he’s big, strong, and fast. he had a good year last year. he’s our highest paid wr and one of the highest paid guys on the team. it’s dhb.
August 8th, 2012 at 10:48 pm
They keep showing the commercial of D.Moores td catch against Buffalo….it was beyond awesome, then he had the one at SD (the shoestring) and a few others and these were tuff catches that average guys just don’t do….as a rookie no less.
My only concern about him is injuries.
D.Moore is a star waiting to happen…IF he can get and stay healthy.
August 8th, 2012 at 10:50 pm
KoolKell Says:
August 8th, 2012 at 9:42 pm
Rolling to one side, means you pretty much have to throw to that side, which is limiting in itself.
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Excuse me, but rolling to one side means when your lawg is so big, it ‘pushes’ you to one side. But we like to call it rollin, cuz we roll the deuce, then I had to roll to one side so I could pinch it. Still, usually means a monster duece.
ROLLIN TO THE SIDE SO I CAN ROLL IT
August 8th, 2012 at 10:51 pm
HOLLA
August 8th, 2012 at 10:52 pm
Hi HD37…Thanks for the welcome…have actually been posting sporadically for a few years now and lurking for years before that.Post only during the season as a rule the off season ‘flame wars’ get a little old.
Have loved CP3 since he played at the U Spoiled Children
but just posted earlier that he posted a 203.9 QB rating at High School whilst playing the season with a bone fracture in his foot…..203.9????gotta be a typo.
Reason I post rarely…..took almost 15 minutes to get this post out.
August 8th, 2012 at 10:54 pm
am i in the right blog? anyone wanna guess the nooners are gonna suck nads? HOLLA
August 8th, 2012 at 11:09 pm
– Allen is big on players earning playing time. He said he isn’t big on giving players promotions, so to speak, without their earning such.
For evidence, fifth-year cornerback Pat Lee practiced with the second-team defense today after spending the early part of camp fighting for reps.
“He’s been improving every day,” Allen said. “That’s the things that we look for. When guys step up and they make some plays, they earn the right to move up the depth chart some.”
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Translation: Pat Lee might be starting opposite DVD if things keep going the way they have been.
August 8th, 2012 at 11:10 pm
Fluffer,
Yes. They might win a few games, but it won’t be like last yr.
They’ll be exposed like the festering rash they are.
August 8th, 2012 at 11:12 pm
I saw Pat Lee when he subbed for Woodson in a game last yr. I believe and they just kept on picking on him all day long.
I honestly recall feeling sorry for him. It was that bad.
August 8th, 2012 at 11:12 pm
Rob…agreed DHB has been the only healthy WR.He’s applying himself,learning his trade and adding a lot of muscle without losing any of his speed.The DB’s and LB’s in this league are hell on wheels on smaller wideouts.
Criner and Treater (hope I spelled them right) look to be more likely to stay healthy.(assumption here is that both make the squad).
August 8th, 2012 at 11:17 pm
And as for the Santa Clara 48ers…..the only thing that is important for them is that they DO NOT share a stadium with us.
Other than that….who gives a sh!t what they do?
August 8th, 2012 at 11:42 pm
HayesDaze37 Says:
August 8th, 2012 at 11:09 pm
– Allen is big on players earning playing time. He said he isn’t big on giving players promotions, so to speak, without their earning such.
For evidence, fifth-year cornerback Pat Lee practiced with the second-team defense today after spending the early part of camp fighting for reps.
“He’s been improving every day,” Allen said. “That’s the things that we look for. When guys step up and they make some plays, they earn the right to move up the depth chart some.”
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Translation: Pat Lee might be starting opposite DVD if things keep going the way they have been.
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Sorry. No way Lee beats Bartell.
August 8th, 2012 at 11:44 pm
another thing that stands out to me is that reggie/allen have brought in duke calhoun (6′2″ 200), derek carrier (6′4″ 238), brandon carswell (6′1″ 201), juron criner (6′3″ 221), thomas mayo (6′2″ 205), travionte session (6′2″ 191), and rod streater (6′3″ 200). see a trend?
the only little guy they brought in was muhammad (5′10″) and he’s listed last on the depth chart.
of the guys that were already here, dhb is 6′2″ 210 and mcgee is 6′3″ 210, and they have moved mcgee up to 2nd team rather quickly. moore (6′0″ 195) and ford (5′9″ 185) have shown some good things and i like them. but they obviously are much smaller than every other guy this organization has brought in. we’ll see how it pans out.
August 8th, 2012 at 11:45 pm
If we’re talking health, yes DHB. If both are healthy all year, Moore. Nothing against DHB. The guy has a great work ethic and has the tools, but DMoore is a natural. He’s a caged beast, and if healthy, look out.
August 8th, 2012 at 11:47 pm
it seems to me that reggie and allen appear to like big receivers. it may be their philosophy. seeing as how both moore and ford have struggled to stay healthy and have 77 receptions combined over ford’s 2 seasons and moore’s one season, it’s hard for me to think they’re necessarily locks for this team down the line.
August 8th, 2012 at 11:50 pm
Twinkle Says:
August 8th, 2012 at 11:17 pm
And as for the Santa Clara 48ers…..the only thing that is important for them is that they DO NOT share a stadium with us.
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Raiders have to be happy about those goons moving South. Hopefully the city of Oakland can make Coliseum City a reality.
August 8th, 2012 at 11:51 pm
bartell and dvd seem to be the cb’s that will start. spencer has been up and down, while dvd has shined. lee is pushing to make the team. not as a starter though. chekwa should make it too. mccann doesn’t look like our return man and i don’t think he’s gonna make it as a cb. lambert and black are roster filler.
August 8th, 2012 at 11:59 pm
i think reggie will be looking to bring in players that are either still free agents or get cut at these positions:
OL–need a veteran tackle
TE–unless they really like myers
RB–depth needed
DT–maybe a big NT
LB–a quality backup
CB–a veteran backup
August 9th, 2012 at 12:03 am
things i expect to see in the preseason:
OL looks good.
myers looks like a viable TE, and gordon surprises everyone.
dhb the clear #1 wr.
palmer very good.
miller looks like a decent backup.
shaugnessy and crawford look tremendous.
burris looks like a steal.
huff looks the same but dvd and bartell look like a legit cb tandem.
August 9th, 2012 at 12:13 am
#232
Agree 100%…..looks like there will a queue of clubs sniffing around here come last cut day.
August 9th, 2012 at 12:22 am
The Beeech Dawg Says:
August 8th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
One of the 4 Founding Fathers of the PM Party Patrol
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Wow. could it be any sadder? Poor biachi is CRYING for ANY attention.
August 9th, 2012 at 12:26 am
that idiot posts and posts and posts and he never gets a laugh. but he really just craves attention. but anytime someone says he’s an idiot, he says he “owns u now and ur his minion” apparently b/c u acknowledged him. he might be kinda funny if he wasn’t so annoyingly gay. i mean he is on a raiders blog and never talks raiders. just about his little weiner and taking dumps. to a room full of guys. closet-case!
August 9th, 2012 at 12:29 am
and have u noticed the music he likes? the absolute lamest late 80’s/early 90’s crap ever. i mean he really loves bell-biv-devoe. not a tribe called quest or cypress hill or the beastie boys. hall and oates. stuff like that. wrexx-n-effect! seriously? that’s ur claim to hipness? rump shaker?
August 9th, 2012 at 12:30 am
rob_raider Says:
August 9th, 2012 at 12:26 am
that idiot posts and posts and posts and he never gets a laugh.
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True. Even THAT would be funny if you didn’t expect her to be swinging from the rafters any day now.
August 9th, 2012 at 12:31 am
his topics generally are limited to:
eating out strippers.
getting high.
eating junk food.
taking dumps.
posting here 20 times a day and calling everyone blog nerds.
and posting the worst raps i’ve ever seen or heard. his insult to me was that i had gator arms and crocodile feet. wow. what an insult!
August 9th, 2012 at 12:33 am
i suspect he looks a lot like the comedian gallagher and just about as funny.
August 9th, 2012 at 12:37 am
rob_raider Says:
August 9th, 2012 at 12:33 am
i suspect he looks a lot like the comedian gallagher and just about as funny.
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See, Rob, that’s where we differ. I would think the comedian Gallegher would be WAAAAY more attractive than biachi and (let’s be honest here) any FUNERAL is going to be FUNNIER..
August 9th, 2012 at 12:44 am
Non acknowledgement is prescribed.Only way to fly.
August 9th, 2012 at 12:46 am
Speaking of which………..anyone here seen the Singapore Airlines jet with the logo on the tail and all silver and black?
Awesome
August 9th, 2012 at 12:52 am
You talking about this one?
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=6580843&nseq=10
August 9th, 2012 at 1:12 am
That be the one.
Isn’t that trick…..way cool.
August 9th, 2012 at 1:23 am
Fast forward this video to 3:19 and watch it take off…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4h_KoPxcyo
August 9th, 2012 at 2:26 am
Thanks Backstage….hell of thing when something as mundane as an jet taking has me watching the video 3 times….gotta stop taking those tablets….guess I must be a Raider fan.Out….and later all….RAIDERS!!!
August 9th, 2012 at 5:23 am
Morilla Says:
Randy Hanson arrested for assault with a deadly weapon. Hilarious.
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I just saw that from Jerry. LOL
So maybe he started it with Cable after all.
August 9th, 2012 at 5:43 am
Offense (25)
WR Denarius Moore, Jacoby Ford, Rod Streater,
LT Jared Veldheer , Zach Hurd
LG Cooper Carlisle, Tony Bergstrom
C Stefen Wisniewski, Alex Parsons
RG Mike Brisiel
RT Khalif Barnes, Joe Barksdale
TE Brandon Myers, Richard Gordon, David Ausberry
WR Darrius Heyward-Bey, Juron Criner, Eddie McGee,
QB Carson Palmer, Matt Leinart, Terrelle Pryor
RB Darren McFadden, Taiwan Jones, Mike Goodson
FB Marcel Reece, Owen Schmitt
Defense (25)
RE Matt Shaughnessy, David Tollefson
DT Richard Seymour, Desmond Bryant, Christo Bilukidi,
NT Tommy Kelly, Dominique Hamilton
LE Lamarr Houston, Jack Crawford
WLB Miles Burris, Aaron Curry
MLB Rolando McClain, Travis Goethel
SLB Philip Wheeler, Kaelin Burnett
RCB Shawntae Spencer, DeMarcus Van Dyke
LCB Ron Bartell, Chimdi Chekwa, Pat Lee
FS Michael Huff, Matt Giordano, Chaz Powell
SS Tyvon Branch, Mike Mitchell,
Special teams (3)
K Sebastian Janikowski
P Shane Lechler
LS Jon Condo
Here’s my crack at the projected roster taking into account some of the practice reports. DISCLAIMER: It’s early to do this and it’s just for fun.
August 9th, 2012 at 5:45 am
Some notable developments from week one of training camp.
Offense:
• The continued impressive sessions of WR’s Streater and Criner.
• Starting O-line seems “set” with Veldheer-Carlisle-Wizniewski-Brisiel-Barnes, and noting the great work that Barnes is putting in here. The RT situation may not be that much of a headache after all. Barksdale and Bergstrom don’t appear to be cracking the starting rotation anytime soon.
• Brandon Myers has emerged as the starting TE, reports are that he’s stepping up his game. Gordon has been crushing people with his blocking and Ausberry has failed to create any buzz and seems to be buried in the depth chart
• Hamstring injuries to Denarius Moore and Taiwan Jones as well as Goodson’s scary neck injury have the entire offense in circle-the-wagons mode. It’ll be tough to get a feel for the starting unit until they play the game with live bullets against San Diego.
• Carson Palmer has been having an excellent camp, although inconsistent at times while adapting to Knapp’s moving pocket WCO system. Leinart has been having a solid camp and turning in good work day after day. Pryor has been inconsistent at best and awful at times. He’s a lock to make the roster, but has a ton of pressure on him to overtake Leinart which at this time seems doubtful.
• Fullback rotation seems set as Marcel Reece continues to show he’s a mismatch against most LB’s covering him out of the backfield. Schmitt offers that smash-mouth blocker that will guide McFadden through the scrum to spring him to daylight and let him do the rest.
August 9th, 2012 at 5:47 am
Guest
That’s a damn good final roster man, probably wouldn’t change anything about it.
August 9th, 2012 at 5:50 am
Although I’d have Gio ahead of Huff:) Just kidding, unless Huffy plays like crap..
August 9th, 2012 at 5:52 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
August 9th, 2012 at 5:55 am
thanks Tx, It’s only a rough draft and I’m sure there will be developments along the way. It’s interesting to go into the training camp with a set opinion about certain people and then have them completely change your mind with their work on the field. Goes to show what you think you know and what actually is.
August 9th, 2012 at 5:58 am
Yeah Guest, as of now that’s how I see it shaking down, but we never know. So what game should the Nation do recon on tonight? Dungver or Dolts?lol I’m leaning towards watching the Dungver game..
August 9th, 2012 at 5:58 am
Good morning Hwnrdr!
August 9th, 2012 at 5:59 am
Damn I hope DVD turns out to be another namdi!!
August 9th, 2012 at 6:00 am
All these people worrying about the rollouts and bootlegs are going to make my head explode.
Folks, we WILL NOT be running a ton of this stuff. The ZBS has these sprint out running plays, and we will run a lot of play-action of that stuff.
But the idea that Palmer is going to be running a bunch of naked boots and waggles a la Jake Plummer is crazy.
Go rewatch the Texans game from last year (I did a few weeks ago). There wasn’t ONE frkn designed bootleg or anything like that by the Texans.
A few of those sprint out play-action plays, one roll one way, throw back to the TE play that worked for a TD.
August 9th, 2012 at 6:01 am
The smart money says, Goodson and Taiwan Jones (hamstring) won’t play Monday, with lead back Darren McFadden getting limited action.
That means a heavy dose of first-year player Lonyae Miller, something he can use as a long-shot to make the 53-man roster.
“I would expect that he would be tired after Monday night’s game,” Allen said of Miller’s expected workload.
Miller, 6-foot and 230 pounds, is an interesting story. He is a Fresno State product, with familiarity to running backs coach Kelly Skipper and a rare combination of size, speed and strength.
He is a player that looks like he knows what he’s doing in any situation, runs hard, is decisive and is hell-bent upon getting extra yardage.
That isn’t lost on Allen and the other coaches.
“I’ve been impressed with what Lonyae’s been able to do,” Allen said. “He’s a different type of back than the other backs that we’ve got. He’s a little bit more of a downhill, pounder type guy. He doesn’t have quite the same explosiveness as those other guys but he’s been a consistent runner.
“What I’ve seen and what he’s done in the zone scheme is, he’s understood what his reads are, he’s made the proper reads, got his pads downhill and made some yards.”
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it’s Miller time !!
August 9th, 2012 at 6:02 am
Also, people commented on how rolling out limits the field and shrinks the field.
Yes it does, but with a vet QB, in a good way.
If you got Bart Scott and Darelle Revis on one side of the field, and a non-pass rushing DE/OLB and Cromartie on one side, why not roll out to them and pick on them?
That’s what that’s all about. Rolling away from the elite pass-rushing DE and DB, and right into someone’s kitchen defensively that won’t like it.
August 9th, 2012 at 6:04 am
Lonyae might earn a job if Taiwan doesn’t get his schit together. We need a big, bruising guy who’s consistent and healthy.
August 9th, 2012 at 6:05 am
Play of the day: Wheeler stepped in front of a Carson Palmer dart for tight end Brandon Myers near the goal line for an impressive interception
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Wheeler knocked the p1ss out of Goodson and put him in the hospital one day, then picks Palmer in the redzone the following practice to earn “Play of the day” honors ??
hot dang, man!!
He might outplay Wimbley for about 10% of the cost.
BigMac strikes gold
August 9th, 2012 at 6:06 am
Mornin’ Nation and a.m. crew! Been far too long. Life gets in the way of Internet schit sometimes, ya know?
Newest member of Raider Nation was born July 28th at 11:13 p.m. Already got her Raider gear ready to go.
Fired up!
August 9th, 2012 at 6:07 am
Bush had a lot of carries last year, so someone has to pick up the slack.
Obviously it would be nice if Darren picked up the lions share of it, but even still if that happened, there is still a handful of carries, at least, for either Jones, Goodson or Miller.
August 9th, 2012 at 6:07 am
TxRaider210 Says:
August 9th, 2012 at 6:04 am
Lonyae might earn a job if Taiwan doesn’t get his schit together. We need a big, bruising guy who’s consistent and healthy.
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Was thinking the same thing; now that Al is gone there’s no scholarships anymore. If Goodson’s injury isn’t serious & he can keep showing the form he did in camp so far, Jones’s roster spot could be in trouble.
That said, I think it’s more likely Lonyae Miller becomes this pre-season’s Louis Rankin.
August 9th, 2012 at 6:07 am
RR
Don’t forget Burris had a redzone pick of Palmer the other day also. Really hope this defense plays when it matters in games too!
August 9th, 2012 at 6:08 am
Congrats PA!!!
Lots of Semi’s having babies.
Let’s see, 9 months ago puts you right about when the Raiders were 7-4 and hoping to make the playoffs.
Uhh-hum,……sounds about right, we were all geeked at that time, lol.
August 9th, 2012 at 6:09 am
Sebastian Janikowski misses practice
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and just like that he’s back on Mr Brown’s hitlist!
August 9th, 2012 at 6:09 am
He might outplay Wimbley for about 10% of the cost.
BigMac strikes gold
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What we lose in pass rush, we gain in everything else. This will be the first time since Wheeler was drafted that he’s playing in a scheme suited to his strengths…Indy’s Tampa-2 did not do him justice.
August 9th, 2012 at 6:10 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
August 9th, 2012 at 6:07 am
TxRaider210 Says:
August 9th, 2012 at 6:04 am
Lonyae might earn a job if Taiwan doesn’t get his schit together. We need a big, bruising guy who’s consistent and healthy.
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Was thinking the same thing; now that Al is gone there’s no scholarships anymore. If Goodson’s injury isn’t serious & he can keep showing the form he did in camp so far, Jones’s roster spot could be in trouble.
That said, I think it’s more likely Lonyae Miller becomes this pre-season’s Louis Rankin.
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Totally agree man, Rankin used to do pretty well in pre-season action, Miller may do better. Goodson will be just fine and should win the 2nd spot, Taiwan’s injury problems are a red flag imo.
August 9th, 2012 at 6:10 am
That said, I think it’s more likely Lonyae Miller becomes this pre-season’s Louis Rankin.
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Yup, or the next Joe Echimeandu.
Barring injury, I just don’t see a way he gets on the 53.
Practice squad, probably.
August 9th, 2012 at 6:10 am
JFB.
Well said man.
Palmer only needs to jog a few yards toward the sidelines after faking the hand-off and then set his feet and throw it to the open guy.
August 9th, 2012 at 6:10 am
WAY 2 GO SNBPA,HOPE EVERYONE IS HEALTHY.U R GETTING PLENTY OF SLEEP THESE DAYS I GUESS..
August 9th, 2012 at 6:11 am
Congrats PA
August 9th, 2012 at 6:12 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 9th, 2012 at 6:08 am
Congrats PA!!!
Lots of Semi’s having babies.
Let’s see, 9 months ago puts you right about when the Raiders were 7-4 and hoping to make the playoffs.
Uhh-hum,……sounds about right, we were all geeked at that time, lol.
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Thanks JFB!
And yeah, it was exciting times in the Nation at that point. Had to take it out somewhere
August 9th, 2012 at 6:13 am
I need to see Taiwan get over 10 touches in 3 back-to-back games, and not get hurt. Until he does that, I’m more sold on Goodson being the 2nd RB.
August 9th, 2012 at 6:13 am
Bob,
I think of it more as managing or manipulating the pocket.
We will have more 7 step drops, anchor in the pocket plays, as rolling out past the TE throws for CArson.
August 9th, 2012 at 6:14 am
Thanks Dirt-Lot and Guest123!
Right now I’m at that point where sleep deprivation makes you overly packed with nervous energy. The exhaustion will be coming soon I’m sure.
August 9th, 2012 at 6:14 am
Congrats on the baby girl PA!
August 9th, 2012 at 6:15 am
TxRaider210 Says:
August 9th, 2012 at 6:13 am
I need to see Taiwan get over 10 touches in 3 back-to-back games, and not get hurt. Until he does that, I’m more sold on Goodson being the 2nd RB.
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I agree.
Can he return kicks? He could be used like the Dischargers used Darren Sproles early on.
August 9th, 2012 at 6:17 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
August 9th, 2012 at 6:15 am
TxRaider210 Says:
August 9th, 2012 at 6:13 am
I need to see Taiwan get over 10 touches in 3 back-to-back games, and not get hurt. Until he does that, I’m more sold on Goodson being the 2nd RB.
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I agree.
Can he return kicks? He could be used like the Dischargers used Darren Sproles early on.
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Not sure if he can, but I think DA already gave him chances, up until the hammy issue. If you read Jones injury history, dude seems prone to get hurt.
August 9th, 2012 at 6:17 am
Thanks TxRaider! I wanted to name her Autumn, but the wife deep-sixed that
August 9th, 2012 at 6:18 am
Hey Raider PA:
Congrats man!
Make sure to teach her that donkeys are filthy animals …
August 9th, 2012 at 6:18 am
raidertbone Says:
August 9th, 2012 at 6:18 am
Hey Raider PA:
Congrats man!
Make sure to teach her that donkeys are filthy animals …
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LOL, thanks man, no worries on that account!
August 9th, 2012 at 6:19 am
FUTURE RAIDERETTE..
August 9th, 2012 at 6:19 am
http://draftace.com/blog/2011/04/03/taiwan-jones-scouting-report/
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Cheesy report, but lists his injuries..
August 9th, 2012 at 6:20 am
Miller may just land himself a spot on the roster if injuries continue to mount and Lonyae grabs the brass ring.
August 9th, 2012 at 6:20 am
Congrats PA!
August 9th, 2012 at 6:21 am
PA
I think that’s a good name choice man, but if wifey ain’t happy, nobody is.lol
August 9th, 2012 at 6:22 am
I’m convinced that Taiwan will almost always be hurt, so he’s going to tough it out and play through injuries.imo
August 9th, 2012 at 6:23 am
So wound up for the season to start and I have to wait all the way for fcking Monday.
August 9th, 2012 at 6:25 am
Did you go with Hue-Anne?
August 9th, 2012 at 6:25 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 9th, 2012 at 6:25 am
Did you go with Hue-Anne?
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Obviously!
August 9th, 2012 at 6:25 am
No kidding, we have to watch 4 days of pre-season before we see our guys on the field.geez
August 9th, 2012 at 6:27 am
Just daydream about Dez Bryant gettin’ absolutely lit up by Mike Mitchell!!
August 9th, 2012 at 6:30 am
Congrats PA!
August 9th, 2012 at 6:31 am
Usain Bolt to try to play with Man U, reported by CNBC this morning.
August 9th, 2012 at 6:32 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 9th, 2012 at 6:31 am
Usain Bolt to try to play with Man U, reported by CNBC this morning.
Yeah Seen that! Tryna use his fastness to play soccer
August 9th, 2012 at 6:33 am
It’s time for the Chargers to start worrying about Gaither, and the addition of two offensive tackles suggests they probably already are. This is not the first series of back problems for Gaither. San Diego signed Gaither to a four-year, $24.6 million contract in March. $13.5 million of that deal was guaranteed, including an $8 million signing bonus.
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LOL!!!!
Man those dolts are some idiots for that one.
I pray Rivers gets injured this year, so that when they flop AJ Smith and Norv have a ready-made excuse and will be brought back for 2013.
August 9th, 2012 at 6:36 am
Twinkle Says:
August 8th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
bcz24 Says:
August 8th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
Hey Rock, if you see him, can you tell Dell to give up my spot this year in the league? He may have already, but I don’t want him holding a spot open for me.
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LMN here it is
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thanks, im gonna see if they still got room for me..
last year i missed playing FF due to their leagues were filled so fast…
its way funnier to play against people here than some anonymous dude..
August 9th, 2012 at 6:37 am
Congrats PA!
August 9th, 2012 at 6:38 am
LOL!!!!
Man those dolts are some idiots for that one.
I pray Rivers gets injured this year, so that when they flop AJ Smith and Norv have a ready-made excuse and will be brought back for 2013.
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Haha, I feel ya JFB. As long as those two are in charge in San Diego, they’ll never win a thing.
That Gaither deal was the kind people used to mock Al for handing out.
Rivers is a statue, if Gaither can’t get healthy ShoNasty could have a big game Week 1.
August 9th, 2012 at 6:38 am
Thanks RRS & Hwnrdr! It’s been a treat so far.
August 9th, 2012 at 6:41 am
Gaither played a month of good football, and they gave him an $8 million signing bonus.
Long live AJ Smith!!!!!
August 9th, 2012 at 6:42 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
August 9th, 2012 at 6:38 am
Thanks RRS & Hwnrdr! It’s been a treat so far.
Yup! My two are my pride and joy!
August 9th, 2012 at 6:45 am
By the way, I know it was 10 years ago, but Carson Palmer ran a 4.65 Forty at his Pro Day, that’s faster than Juron Criner.
It’s only worth mentioning, obviously he can’t run that now, because athletic guys may lose their speed but they don’t lose coordination and footwork.
Palmer is a pocket passer, but he’s no Tom Brady or Peyton Manning, guys who really can’t run or move much.
For comparison’s sake, here are some other notable 40 times: Tom Brady ran a 5.28, Eli Manning a 4.90, Philip Rivers a 5.08, Drew Brees a 4.83, Joe Flacco a 4.86, Ben Roethlisberger a 4.75 and Matt Ryan a 4.71.
August 9th, 2012 at 6:45 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 9th, 2012 at 6:41 am
Gaither played a month of good football, and they gave him an $8 million signing bonus.
Long live AJ Smith!!!!!
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Lord of No Rings!
The contract they handed out to Robert Meachem was pretty funny too: 4 years/$25.9 million, $14 million guarnateed and a $7.5 million signing bonus. This for a guy who played 3rd fiddle in New Orleans.
Plus they’ve got no depth along the O-line, Ryan Mathews STILL hasn’t lived up to his billing, they’ve got 8,000 year old Takeo Spikes starting in the middle, no reliable pass rusher other than Shaun Philips…..the Chargers are a Philip Rivers ACL tear away from a 4-12 season.
August 9th, 2012 at 6:48 am
Point was Carson is a good enough athlete to handle this offense.
August 9th, 2012 at 6:48 am
Well let’s hope they get that ACL tear, because the team could realistically go 7-9 with Rivers, and then Norv and AJ would most assuredly be canned.
August 9th, 2012 at 6:49 am
Bob Marley Says:
August 9th, 2012 at 6:48 am
Point was Carson is a good enough athlete to handle this offense.
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I agree. Matt Schaub ain’t exactly Michael Vick and he did just fine in Houston.
August 9th, 2012 at 6:58 am
It’d make my week if MM34 lit up Dez Bryant and Burris lit up Romo/Orton! Oh yeah!
August 9th, 2012 at 7:08 am
back problems for Gaither
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uh oh!
does that mean we might have to face “Super” Mario Henderson on WK1 ??
August 9th, 2012 at 7:13 am
I would be suprised if Pryor doesn’t dominate the 2nd half next week.
Just too good of an athlete.
August 9th, 2012 at 7:13 am
RR
Got to love when the queefs and dolts think our scrubs will somehow turn in to ballers for them.lol
August 9th, 2012 at 7:13 am
JFB
Pryor will be running wild in the 2nd half, breakin’ db’s ankle’s out there.
August 9th, 2012 at 7:20 am
In the 2nd halves of preseason games, you will be going against either 230 LB’s, or 250 5.2 forty LB’s.
Pryor should look like a man playing against boys when he is running around.
It will be his decision-making that will be crucial. First NFL bullets flying by him.
August 9th, 2012 at 7:22 am
Pryor still has a lot of work to do as a passer. Plus he’ll be playing with guys who likely wont make the team. I think we can expect to see throws at players feet, then throws over thier heads, then throws behind them. More often than not, if a defensive player bursts through the O-Line … Pryor will scramble until a guy comes open or just instictively take off running (rather than being patient in the pocket, trusting his OL or taking a sack)
he’s a work in progress, gents.
I think he’ll probably have 1 passing TD, 1 rushing TD and 2 INT’s. Might even fumble once or twice
Next preseason, I’ll expect most of that stuff to be cleaned up.
August 9th, 2012 at 7:23 am
Levi Damien @LeviDamien
RT @PFF_Rick: 32: Darren McFadden in 2011 had 32 carries to right (outside of RG) for 4.4ypc. Outside LG? 50 and 6.9 per– that RG is now LG
August 9th, 2012 at 7:24 am
Good points RR
I don’t see him throwing any picks, but maybe some ugly passes out there. He may end up rolling out a lot and firing quick strikes over the middle, or just running if he sees a hole.
August 9th, 2012 at 7:25 am
HGDaddy Says:
August 9th, 2012 at 7:23 am
Levi Damien @LeviDamien
RT @PFF_Rick: 32: Darren McFadden in 2011 had 32 carries to right (outside of RG) for 4.4ypc. Outside LG? 50 and 6.9 per– that RG is now LG
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Awesome. Carlisle could be a hell of a complement to Veldheer.
The only potential weak spot I see along the o-line right now is Barnes and by all reports he’s been looking great.
August 9th, 2012 at 7:26 am
Just glad TP isn’t being thrown to the wolves like RG3 is, plenty of time to learn behind Palmer.
August 9th, 2012 at 7:26 am
@Tx
I don’t think KC inherited trash per se, when they signed Boss & Routt in FA …
I think Reggie would have kept both players if they didn’t have “out of whack” contracts. Wimbley, too
Still, I’m not losing any sleep over the players we lost. I’ll we’ll have more wins than last season, which is all that matters imo
August 9th, 2012 at 7:27 am
I don’t think the question is whether or not Palmer is athletic enough to be able to roll out…..I think the question is whether or not Palmer can throw accurately enough when rolling out.
August 9th, 2012 at 7:29 am
RR
I think Routt was gone either way, after his penalty fest last year, Reg likes disciplined players. Could have seen him keeping Boss, maybe.
August 9th, 2012 at 7:30 am
@SilverNBlackPA – Carlisle was the RG last year. Now that he is LG, will that 50 and 6.9 per maintain?
August 9th, 2012 at 7:30 am
I think Routt stays if he didn’t have the “out of whack” contract.
For all his flaws, I’d rather have Routt than Shawntae Spencer penciled in as a starter. Hoping DVD can step up and claim that spot. But then you’ve got a raw second year guy starting.
If this team has an Achilles Heel, it’s that secondary.
August 9th, 2012 at 7:31 am
HGDaddy Says:
August 9th, 2012 at 7:30 am
@SilverNBlackPA – Carlisle was the RG last year. Now that he is LG, will that 50 and 6.9 per maintain?
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Schit, you know, I misread the stats in that tweet.
That said, I think Carlisle will be fine and Brisel can give the right side a boost.
August 9th, 2012 at 7:32 am
I think Routt is a stinker and may lead the league in penalties again. Spencer may not wind up starting, but DVD, Chekwa or Lee can step up.imo
August 9th, 2012 at 7:33 am
I won’t be too hard on Spencer, until he stinks it up in a game..
August 9th, 2012 at 7:34 am
IMO one of the “out of whack” contracts Reggie had was Seymour.
He is the highest paid defensive player in the league.
We can debate how good he actually is all day long, but THAT is out of whack.
I’m a little surprised Reggie didn’t eat the 7.5…
I’m not a Seymour “hater” by any means, just worried a bit.
August 9th, 2012 at 7:35 am
TxRaider210 Says:
August 9th, 2012 at 7:33 am
I won’t be too hard on Spencer, until he stinks it up in a game..
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I won’t either, but I’m worried you know.
Nice to see Pat Lee rising up the depth chart though. Going out and earning it!
I thought the Packers were in big trouble in the Super Bowl when Woodson went down & Lee had to step in, but he held his own extremely well. Having to come in off the bench in the Super Bowl is maybe the biggest pressure situation in the NFL and he did fine. He could be a sleeper.
August 9th, 2012 at 7:35 am
They were reports saying that Chekwa was on the bubble…I hope he steps it up!
August 9th, 2012 at 7:35 am
I think Sey would have been gone, if Reg wanted to eat the 7.5, but that’s still big money to lose.
August 9th, 2012 at 7:35 am
DJ Johnny,
I think for Reggie, it was “Can I eat the 7.5 for Seymour and find a good enough replacement for the other 7.5?”
August 9th, 2012 at 7:36 am
Also keep in mind that Powell can play SS and DB, kid is an all around athlete.
August 9th, 2012 at 7:39 am
Dakota Says:
I don’t think the question is whether or not Palmer is athletic enough to be able to roll out…..I think the question is whether or not Palmer can throw accurately enough when rolling out.
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Good point Dakota.
From what I’ve seen out of Kubiak’s offense, now implemented here by Knapp, the QB usually has time to set his feet before he throws, for that to happen the defense has to buy the play-action fake allowing Palmer to have the time to scan the field while moving and then set his feet and throw.
But it won’t always work that way and Palmer will be forced to make some throws on the move with a guy chasing him more often than in another offense, I think you are right to be concerned about that, time will tell I guess.
August 9th, 2012 at 7:42 am
@ PA & DJG
I think between Crawford & Tollefson, the DE spot opposite ShoNasty would be solid.
Houston & Bryant rotating in at DT next to Tommy Kelly = nobody even knows Richard Seymour is missing
August 9th, 2012 at 7:47 am
Frankly, my biggest concern on Offense is Knapp calling for a bunch of short passes that lead to 5 yard gains when it’s 3rd and 6.
The ZBS and play-action offense is great on 1st and 2nd downs or when it’s 3rd and short, but when you are in a passing situation where you can’t fool the defense with play-action and your OL won’t be moving and cuting people but rather standing up to face the heat, it’s much more difficult to convert when the guy calling the plays is a conservative “we’ll get them next time” kind of guy.
August 9th, 2012 at 7:47 am
Im hoping lee steps up too.. I knew dvd could cover and at least be a decent backup.. But I hadnt seen much of lee.. And chec seemed kinda stiff.. Gotta have 4-5 solid corners
August 9th, 2012 at 7:47 am
It’s not like they are going to ask Palmer to roll left a ton and throw across his body.
When he is “rolling out” a majority of the time it will be to his right, which shouldn’t add a whole lot to the difficulty of the throw.
August 9th, 2012 at 7:52 am
Chaz Powell is so diverse, I see the kid making the roster in some capacity. He stripped a ball the other day and took it the the house in practice.
August 9th, 2012 at 7:53 am
Im not worrying about cp3 just because some guy watched one early practice when carson had an off day… The ppl there every day say he looks great.
August 9th, 2012 at 7:56 am
Fu¢k this fking heat… 8a.m and its already swampy..
August 9th, 2012 at 7:56 am
Carson Palmer is the least of our concerns, as long as he stays healthy & avoids turnovers !!
August 9th, 2012 at 7:57 am
Marks hair Says:
August 9th, 2012 at 7:56 am
Fu¢k this fking heat… 8a.m and its already swampy..
I hear ya!
August 9th, 2012 at 8:00 am
just surprised that there can actually be a debate if we upgraded at corner this year. Losing Routt and CJ37 was fine but my biggest disappointment in reggie so far is his inability to get a sure thing cb when it was a fairly deep free agent pool. I personally will wait until final cuts are made and hopefully Reggie picks up a gem or two, but I was floored at him not picking a defensive player with our first pick and not adding many quality defensive players in the offseason. He has put alot of pressure on allen to make strides with players who have failed for years under different d coordinators.
August 9th, 2012 at 8:04 am
I won’t be too hard on Spencer, until he stinks it up in a game..
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Especially since DVD has been playing out of his mind. It’ll end up being a case of “Who’s better”, rather than “Well, who sucks LESS?”
It feels like competition and play has been elevating at most all positions this camp…….Awesome.
August 9th, 2012 at 8:04 am
Plaxico Burress is now willing to sign a one-year deal for the veteran minimum. – PFT
DMo17 & McGee are injured, Murphy was traded
should we revisit Plax to Oakland or wait for the next Live Chat ??
August 9th, 2012 at 8:05 am
I’m looking for Tollefson, Wheeler, Bartell, Lee, Burris, Crawford etc. to have a good year. All guys that Reg brought in to help on D.jmo
August 9th, 2012 at 8:05 am
Bartell, tollefson, spencer, & wheeler may not be big name guys but they havent failed for yrs as you say.. I think reg has done well. Getting cap space was a big part of the plan this offseason.
August 9th, 2012 at 8:06 am
theghostronin79 Says:
August 9th, 2012 at 8:04 am
I won’t be too hard on Spencer, until he stinks it up in a game..
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Especially since DVD has been playing out of his mind. It’ll end up being a case of “Who’s better”, rather than “Well, who sucks LESS?”
It feels like competition and play has been elevating at most all positions this camp…….Awesome.
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I agree man, also looking for some guys to shine who have been under the radar thus far.
August 9th, 2012 at 8:06 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 9th, 2012 at 8:04 am
Plaxico Burress is now willing to sign a one-year deal for the veteran minimum. – PFT
DMo17 & McGee are injured, Murphy was traded
should we revisit Plax to Oakland or wait for the next Live Chat ??
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I’ve never really been in love with the idea, but for the vet minimum, why the fck not, you know?
Even if he’s just used as 3rd down and red zone specialist, it couldn’t hurt.
August 9th, 2012 at 8:07 am
347. Cant wait for someone else to sign him.. Lets go shehawks
August 9th, 2012 at 8:07 am
I don’t see Plax getting a deal until Reg sees what he has in the young guys, couple of them ballin already, it seems.
August 9th, 2012 at 8:08 am
At least t.o never shot himself..
August 9th, 2012 at 8:09 am
I agree man, also looking for some guys to shine who have been under the radar thus far.
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I’m definately most excited about seeing the Defense….but I keep forgeting I’m gonna get my first look at Streater too, and Criner….Plus Garun-Damn-Tee ya that Pryor will see plenty of action.
“F” Yeah, I’m anxious.
August 9th, 2012 at 8:10 am
“Moving pocket” is a more accurate description than rolling out. CP and the OL will move to either side, where he can plant and throw. It wont be like Elway sprint out right throwing on the run as often as it seems to be perceived. It is an added dimension that keeps DC’s on their heels. When these hard edge pass rushers get chipped inside after a play fake and CP moves around to that open side, he’ll have time to throw.
August 9th, 2012 at 8:10 am
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Me too man, I’m pumped! Look out for Chaz Powell in the pre-season, I like that the kid is built like a SS, but can play DB and WR as well.
August 9th, 2012 at 8:12 am
Our o-line looks really good. Thats whats most important. Cp3 can make any throw if he’s got a few secs..
August 9th, 2012 at 8:13 am
If Chaz Powell shows he’s a baller in pre-season, line him up across from Bartell and watch the show.
August 9th, 2012 at 8:14 am
Marks Hair Says:
August 9th, 2012 at 8:05 am
Bartell, tollefson, spencer, & wheeler may not be big name guys but they havent failed for yrs as you say.. I think reg has done well. Getting cap space was a big part of the plan this offseason.
The core of our defense has remained the same and Bartell recovering from an injury and spencer who in my view is closer to a 3rd cb than a starting cornerback have to be considered question marks at this point. I am hopeful they step up , but to me the defense is still a major concern which i thought reggie would focus more on. Just an opinion and my hope is the extra weight DVD has put on allows him to actually make a tackle this year.
August 9th, 2012 at 8:16 am
They call the rollouts to reduce pressure on the qb.. But I think cp3 will have either way..
August 9th, 2012 at 8:16 am
I’m off to lunch fellas, holla at ya’ll later.
August 9th, 2012 at 8:17 am
TxRaider210
This is for you, looked up Chaz Powell when we signed him, definitely a kid with potential:
“The other UDFA that seems intriguning is Chaz Powell, CB, Penn State.
Kid looks the part in a uniform but very raw and just recently moved to CB after playing WR and being recruited as a S, very good athlete who also returns kicks and plays Gunner on ST’s, always a plus.
Height: 6’0″
Weight: 203
“Strengths:
•Great athlete and great speed
•Great kick returner
•Very good size
•Lots of untapped potential
•Lots of special teams experience playing gunner on punts and covering kicks
•High football IQ, good instincts
•Great hands and leaping ability with a nose for the ball
•Great closing speed
•Willing and able tackler
Weaknesses:
•Limited experience at corner, only played 18 games at the position
•No experience in man coverage
•Really raw
•Technique is lacking and will need to be coached up
•May lack a true position
Chaz Powell is somewhat of an unknown quantity among the common fan but he’s a player that scouts are well aware of and is highly regarded.
Powell was a productive player whenever he was on the field for Penn State.
Powell came in as a safety recruit and redshirted in 2007 learning the position. Penn State was very deep at safety though so he played wide receiver and returned kicks as a freshman and sophomore.
Powell finally moved to cornerback for good mid-way through his junior season and started the final five games. He then went on to start all 13 games as a senior.
Powell has shown to be a playmaker when he gets the ball in his hands, sporting a very solid kick return average and returning a pair for touchdowns in his career.
Powell also has tons of experience on special teams coverage units as he was the gunner on punts for pretty much his entire career and played on the kick coverage unit.
As a defender, Powell is very raw. Penn State really only played zone concepts in the secondary so he only has experience in zone and some off man.
Powell’s overall technique improved every game over his 18 game starting career but it still has plenty of room for improvement.
Powell is a smooth athlete that has fluid hips and can run with anyone but his footwork needs cleaning up for him to be more effective in transition.
Powell rarely gets beat deep between the off coverage and his great speed.
He’s a physical player that’s not afraid to mix it up in the run game but he’s got no experience in bump and run and will need further development to make the transition to that type of scheme.
That being said, Powell’s skillset projects well to any scheme and even projects well to multiple positions as an NFL team could move him back to WR with his great ball skills, keep him at corner, or even move him to free safety where he was originally recruited to play.
Powell is already a great special teamer and he’s the kind of high upside player that teams love to target late in drafts that can come in and be a special teams stud from day one and has the upside to develop into a starter a few years down the road.”
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One more, from a Penn State site, they should know him well and I don’t see much of a homer’s point of view:
“Powell is a tremendous athlete, but he’s still very raw in the secondary–though he’s got two years of experience now, he still hasn’t shown much scheme diversity.
I’m not sure he’s ever played any bump-and-run, for instance, and he’ll need to be groomed into an NFL corner.
The benefit to any interested team, though, is that Powell isn’t a guy who’ll have to be stashed on special teams or be inactive while he learns and grows as a defensive back.
Immediately, he can step in and return kicks for a team that’s deficient in that area. And, should the entire wide receiver corps come down with the flu, Powell is uniquely able to provide some emergency depth at that position, too–kind of like a bizarro Mike Furrey.
Long story short, Powell is too athletic and versatile not to make at least some impact in the NFL, and though he likely won’t be more than a late-round draft pick, odds are better that he’s a diamond in the rough than a wasted selection.”
August 9th, 2012 at 8:18 am
360. That one I agree with.. Still lots of concerns & questions on that side of the ball..
August 9th, 2012 at 8:19 am
Plax is the type of knucklehead The Reggie is not interested in.
Didn’t we just draft a bunch of bible-thumpers?
Plax and his whole attitude, and wearing his hat sideways on the sidelines, and crying to the media all the time, is not at all welcomed here.
#newera
August 9th, 2012 at 8:27 am
Jazz make it official, hire Dennis Lindsey as new GM
Josh Childress drawing interest from Wizards
Trail Blazers hire Terry Stotts as head coach
Lou Amundson talking with Bobcats, Knicks interested
Dirk Nowitzki got married
Clippers may stay in house to find new general manager
Bulls cant afford Tracy McGrady
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another slow day for NBA news !!
August 9th, 2012 at 8:27 am
Says here you were out of work for quite awhile mr. plaxico b.. Couldnt find work? Sick? What?
Oh, I was in prison for accidentally shooting myself in a crowded nightclub..
I see…. Well. We’ll uh, we’ll let you know.. Dont call us. Thanks…
August 9th, 2012 at 8:27 am
one of my biggest disappointments with Hue was in the Red zone. Moore and DHB would be on the field and Hue would mostly call to throw lobs to DHB which we all know while DHB made excellent strides he still had a weakness of adjusting for throws on the sidelines/endzone and keeping his feet in bounds. IMO moore never got his chance to show how dominant he could be in the red zone. Personally , if comfortable that moore will be healthly going into the season, I would give him a chance to be the red zone guy instead of bringing Plax in. It seems reggie counts every nickel and dime, so if there is money to be spent hopefully he’ll invest in our D. I’m fine with our offense, its playoff caliber..
August 9th, 2012 at 8:30 am
one of my biggest disappointments with Hue was in the Red zone
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I believe we were 7th in total yards, but 16th in scoring in the league last year.
Take out Seabass bailing out the offense with 54 yard FG’s all season, and it would have been worse.
August 9th, 2012 at 8:31 am
Bulls cant afford Tracy McGrady
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LOL!!!!
I had to read that twice. First, I didn’t even know he was in the league still, and 2nd, I didn’t know he was expensive still.
What is this 2003?
August 9th, 2012 at 8:32 am
I had to read that twice. First, I didn’t even know he was in the league still, and 2nd, I didn’t know he was expensive still.
What is this 2003?
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@JFB
read this !!
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/08/good-news-bulls-fans-at-least-youre-not-getting-mcgrady/
August 9th, 2012 at 8:33 am
@nyraider – IMO Criner and Ausberry will be our RedZone targets.
August 9th, 2012 at 8:40 am
I think we could line up with double tights and a fullback inside the 10 yard line pretty often, making it look like we will pound McFadden in for 6 … then Palmer will hit one of our young players unknown around the league for the TD
I think Reece will have the most TD’s of his career this season, as he will not be used primarily as a blocker but more of a utility mismatch weapon
August 9th, 2012 at 8:42 am
“A lot,” Crennel said, via Adam Teicher of the Kansas City Star. “He needs to work on technique, he needs to work on understanding the system, he needs to get the calls correct all the time. He’s got a ways to go.”
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hahahah. Dude couldnt even star on the lousy Memphis Tigers. So glad they drafted him.
August 9th, 2012 at 8:43 am
@374 that was about Dontari Poe.
August 9th, 2012 at 8:44 am
2 TE’s + FB + RB + QB + 5 O-lineman only leaves one WR.
If we are in that set, we will more than likely throw it to the FB or TE in the red zone.
August 9th, 2012 at 8:45 am
I hope kc falls apart..
August 9th, 2012 at 8:45 am
about Dontari Poe.
“A lot,” Crennel said, via Adam Teicher of the Kansas City Star. “He needs to work on technique, he needs to work on understanding the system, he needs to get the calls correct all the time. He’s got a ways to go.”
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@AIG
I was talking to a buddy of mine who is a KC fan a few days ago. He was p1ssed that they drafted him. Said he’s probably only going to get like 10-12 snaps per game, lol
August 9th, 2012 at 8:46 am
376.. I think he was hoping to go with 12 men..
August 9th, 2012 at 8:47 am
2 TE’s + FB + RB + QB + 5 O-lineman only leaves one WR.
If we are in that set, we will more than likely throw it to the FB or TE in the red zone.
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Exactly, JFB!
Unless we put Schmitt at FB, Barks at RT, Barnes & Gordon as the 2 TE’s & pound the crap out of’em !!
August 9th, 2012 at 8:47 am
RRS,
Dude couldnt even star against an inferior conf and they think they can make him a stud against NFL grown men. I’ve lived among these cats for 3.5 yrs and I can tell you most of them are not bright. Not surprised at all that Poe is having trouble catching on to the schemes and calls.
August 9th, 2012 at 8:48 am
I think he was hoping to go with 12 men..
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@Mark
funny, thats what it says on your Facebook page!
August 9th, 2012 at 8:50 am
The big DT/NT seems like the biggest bust spot in the draft.
Too many of these guys flop and never do anything.
Like some “busts” at RB or WR, at least they usually have a few productive games.
August 9th, 2012 at 8:50 am
382. Ha..
August 9th, 2012 at 8:54 am
@383
At that weight, I have a hard time believing they are highly motivated and high motor guys.
August 9th, 2012 at 8:55 am
I saw Dan Williams getting some run with the 1’s in the preseason game, but he has been a major disappointment as well.
August 9th, 2012 at 8:55 am
Meanwhile, Dontari Poe is still running second string. Dude’s turning into the Tony Mandarich of defense.
August 9th, 2012 at 8:56 am
Here’s a link to today’s upcoming chat, correctly formatted:
http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders/ci_21253721/live-chat-inside-oakland-raiders-thursday-at-noon
August 9th, 2012 at 8:58 am
Fu¢king Gannon just said the 9er nation.. Dlck..
August 9th, 2012 at 8:58 am
I saw Dan Williams getting some run with the 1’s in the preseason game, but he has been a major disappointment as well.
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@JFB
you mean the guy I wanted to draft instead of McClain ??
LOL, nice jab
August 9th, 2012 at 8:58 am
PFT’s reporting that Jared Gaither STILL hasn’t practiced because of conditioning issues. Reggie and DA would have cut his @ss already.
August 9th, 2012 at 8:58 am
345.nyraider Says:
August 9th, 2012 at 8:00 am
just surprised that there can actually be a debate if we upgraded at corner this year. Losing Routt and CJ37 was fine but my biggest disappointment in reggie so far is his inability to get a sure thing cb when it was a fairly deep free agent pool. I personally will wait until final cuts are made and hopefully Reggie picks up a gem or two, but I was floored at him not picking a defensive player with our first pick and not adding many quality defensive players in the offseason. He has put alot of pressure on allen to make strides with players who have failed for years under different d coordinators.
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I anticipate Reggie doing something with that 6+ mill. he still has under the cap.
August 9th, 2012 at 8:59 am
Evrything raiders gets copied or stolen..smh
August 9th, 2012 at 8:59 am
Is there any truth to that post yesterday where a guy said Reggie was asked by a fan if he was gonna sign Benson and Reg supposedly replied “It’s up to him”?
I didn’t know if it turned out to be a bogus post or not.
August 9th, 2012 at 9:00 am
I was very surprised that Reggie went offense with our first pick as well, but Carlisle is not the long-term solution at LG. We did need someone ready to take over, and it looks like we got a good one.
August 9th, 2012 at 9:00 am
Well guys…it was a healthy baby boy (Andrew Augustine), 6lbs. 6 oz born @ 6:57 pm!!
Little guy looks like he could be a great ILB!!!
Lol…
Just for the records…already got a RB, C and a CB!!
Heading back to the Hospital right now…talk to guys later!
August 9th, 2012 at 9:01 am
DJ Johnny Says:
August 9th, 2012 at 8:59 am
Is there any truth to that post yesterday where a guy said Reggie was asked by a fan if he was gonna sign Benson and Reg supposedly replied “It’s up to him”?
I didn’t know if it turned out to be a bogus post or not.
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IF that’s true, it means Reggie offered Benson a vet minimum deal (with maybe some incentives thrown in), told him he’d be used as DMAC’s hammer, and said “Take it or leave it.”
August 9th, 2012 at 9:01 am
Marks hair Says:
August 9th, 2012 at 8:58 am
Fu¢king Gannon just said the 9er nation.. Dlck..
Oh that’s it…he should get shot!
August 9th, 2012 at 9:01 am
R8eray Says:
August 9th, 2012 at 9:00 am
Well guys…it was a healthy baby boy (Andrew Augustine), 6lbs. 6 oz born @ 6:57 pm!!
Little guy looks like he could be a great ILB!!!
Lol…
Just for the records…already got a RB, C and a CB!!
Heading back to the Hospital right now…talk to guys later!
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w00t! Congrats!
August 9th, 2012 at 9:02 am
r8eray Says:
August 9th, 2012 at 9:00 am
Well guys…it was a healthy baby boy (Andrew Augustine), 6lbs. 6 oz born @ 6:57 pm!!
Little guy looks like he could be a great ILB!!!
Lol…
Just for the records…already got a RB, C and a CB!!
Heading back to the Hospital right now…talk to guys later!
Again, CONGRATULATIONS, Ray!!!
August 9th, 2012 at 9:02 am
Dr.Death @26DrDeath
A fan asked Reggie today “when u signing benson ” reg said “it’s not up to me it’s up to him”
Retweeted by Christopher Hansen
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There you go DJ.
August 9th, 2012 at 9:03 am
Congrats Ray!! wow! 4 children is quite a blessing!
August 9th, 2012 at 9:03 am
Congrats R8eray !!
August 9th, 2012 at 9:04 am
398.hwnrdr Says:
August 9th, 2012 at 9:01 am
Marks hair Says:
August 9th, 2012 at 8:58 am
Fu¢king Gannon just said the 9er nation.. Dlck..
Oh that’s it…he should get shot!
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Everybody is a “nation” now. Even my high school has a sign in front saying “…. Nation”.
It’s only gonna get worse.
August 9th, 2012 at 9:04 am
Your overpopulating..
August 9th, 2012 at 9:05 am
401.aig-raiders Says:
August 9th, 2012 at 9:02 am
Dr.Death @26DrDeath
A fan asked Reggie today “when u signing benson ” reg said “it’s not up to me it’s up to him”
Retweeted by Christopher Hansen
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There you go DJ.
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Thanks.
BTW, What is the host of Dateline NBC doing tweeting about the Raiders?
August 9th, 2012 at 9:09 am
“Nation” is the new hip word to try and stimulate ANY real or perceived fan base.
It’s meaning has been diluted by fat soccer moms and booster clubs.
Elementary schools and Pop Warner teams will start using it if they haven’t already.
“Bob’s Tile and Flooring NATION”.
August 9th, 2012 at 9:10 am
good morning G123!
log in to find that Dennis Allen is pleased with Lonyae Miller … and Reggie made a “take it or leave it” offer to Cedric Benson?
Ouch!
August 9th, 2012 at 9:11 am
I know the nerve of some people! I hear stories that there’s this burger joint that calls themselves “Nations”. Unreal!
August 9th, 2012 at 9:11 am
393.Marks hair Says:
August 9th, 2012 at 8:59 am
Evrything raiders gets copied or stolen..smh
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Definitely.
Everybody wants to wear black now too.
Arizona even wore black jerseys last yr.
August 9th, 2012 at 9:13 am
Good morning/afternoon Rockstar,
Glad that Reggie doesn’t see the value in a washed up Cedric Benson that others here see. Lonyae Miller can duplicate anything on the field that scrub can for a small fraction of the cost. And serve as preseason tackling dummy till we get to San Diego.
August 9th, 2012 at 9:16 am
Nation’s is awesome!!!
Besides my old friends, I miss that the most from the 209.
August 9th, 2012 at 9:17 am
Per Mark Pu$$i
Then Boller struggled, and the Raiders went down 21-0, and Jackson sent a surprised Palmer into the game early in the third quarter.
The result for Palmer: Not good, but not too shocking, either.
“I threw three (interceptions) in that game that I would’ve never thrown if I knew they played ‘Cover 6′ and the corner rolled up on hitches, you know what I mean?” Palmer said.
August 9th, 2012 at 9:17 am
By the way, Rockstar…did you get a chance to see my updated ‘for fun’ 53 man projected roster on #248?
I’ve added back in MM34 and Goethel. See? I’m not a hater.
August 9th, 2012 at 9:18 am
Was there ever a Nations in the 209? Stockton maybe?
The only ones I ever ate at were in the bay area.
August 9th, 2012 at 9:19 am
Actually looking forward to watching the Bears Denver game tonight to see good ‘ole Jason Campbell take most of the snaps and watch Michael Bush do….whatever he does in preseason.
I was hoping Urlacher might take out Manning on the 1st series but he’s not playing tonight.
August 9th, 2012 at 9:19 am
Tracy, and this was like 15 years ago.
I still think it is there.
Linguica breakfast with a slice of banana cream pie.
Killer!!!!
August 9th, 2012 at 9:22 am
Linguica breakfast with a slice of banana cream pie.
Killer!!!!
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Sounds awesome! But it’s all off limits to me now. I gave up fatty foods like it is a religion. Metabolism isn’t the same as 15 years ago. Something had to give. I’ll leave those culinary delights to the younger generation. Enjoy it while you can!
August 9th, 2012 at 9:23 am
Benson 3.9 ypc.
Bush 3.8 ypc.
I gotta thing most anybody can do that.
One thing about Bush though is he’s durable…and can catch the ball. Bush was ranked 7th in the league for “efficiency” as far as RB’s catching the ball.
DMAC was 10th btw.
August 9th, 2012 at 9:27 am
R8,
4 boys?!
Good luck bro. lol
Congrats.
August 9th, 2012 at 9:27 am
Fu¢king Gannon just said the 9er nation.. Dlck..
Oh that’s it…he should get shot!
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Everybody is a “nation” now. Even my high school has a sign in front saying “…. Nation”.
It’s only gonna get worse.
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What up NATION?
How many sports franchise base can great each other with the word NATION, and both people know what you mean?????
I can see another Raider on the street in any city in the world and say “What up NATION” and he/she will know exactly what I am talking about.
The identification of NATION is and belongs to only 1 sports franchise only.
Everyone else is just pretending to be a NATION however, this is an impossibility…
THE NATION = THE RAIDERS
August 9th, 2012 at 9:28 am
not to mention all the teams that added metal flake to their helmets for pants.. Copycat
August 9th, 2012 at 9:29 am
For you Benson fans:
Only 2 teams last year had a ypc lower than Benson’s career ypc.
He’s scored 32 TD in 1635 total touches or a TD every 51 touches. Of the 30 RB with at least 1000 touches since 2005, that was the third worst ratio in football after Warrick Dunn and Julius Jones (both out of the league).
Of the 30 RB in that time with 1000 carries, his 3.77 ypc ranks 29th just ahead of Jamal Lewis at 3.72.
He ranks 75th in RB yards per touch out of the 77 backs with at least 500 touches since 2005.
Benson may be a workhorse, but he hasn’t exactly been a productive one
August 9th, 2012 at 9:30 am
Marks hair Says:
August 9th, 2012 at 9:28 am
not to mention all the teams that added metal flake to their helmets for pants.. Copycat
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What up Bruh? Be honest mayne, when was the last time you watched the jetwork?lol
August 9th, 2012 at 9:33 am
Sounds awesome! But it’s all off limits to me now.
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Me as well, for the most part.
Linguica is still good, but can’t have too much carbs and definitely need the sugar-free pie.
August 9th, 2012 at 9:33 am
Sounds awesome! But it’s all off limits to me now. I gave up fatty foods like it is a religion. Metabolism isn’t the same as 15 years ago. Something had to give. I’ll leave those culinary delights to the younger generation. Enjoy it while you can!
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Live a little bro, and so what if you are a few pounds overweight?
We don’t all have to look like underwear models.
August 9th, 2012 at 9:34 am
Yeah I hate that too! I cringe everytime I hear Laker fans say Laker Nation! I’m a Laker Fan as well, but I do know that there is only ONE NATION!
August 9th, 2012 at 9:37 am
Hwnrdr,
You had to talk about the Fakers?
Dakota and J will finish what you just started.
August 9th, 2012 at 9:38 am
Live a little bro, and so what if you are a few pounds overweight?
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I’m exactly Lonyae Miller’s measurements: 6′0″, 230 lbs also an alum of Fresno. That’s where the comparibles end though. I do really need to lose some weight. I’m focused though, and I plan to get down to 210 thru diet and exercise.
August 9th, 2012 at 9:40 am
Raider O Says:
August 9th, 2012 at 9:37 am
Hwnrdr,
You had to talk about the Fakers?
Dakota and J will finish what you just started.
Who are the Fakers? LOL
August 9th, 2012 at 9:40 am
Linguica breakfast with a slice of banana cream pie.
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You just can’t beat a Linguica breakfast. Nope, not possible.
August 9th, 2012 at 9:40 am
Go Cavs!
Go Clippers!
August 9th, 2012 at 9:40 am
Well ok, I even here people saying the Clipper Nation, Cheeshead Nation…these fans just don’t get it
August 9th, 2012 at 9:41 am
aig-raiders Says:
August 9th, 2012 at 8:42 am
“A lot,” Crennel said, via Adam Teicher of the Kansas City Star. “He needs to work on technique, he needs to work on understanding the system, he needs to get the calls correct all the time. He’s got a ways to go.”
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hahahah. Dude couldnt even star on the lousy Memphis Tigers. So glad they drafted him.
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LMAO
Drafting Poe had “bad idea” written allllllllll over it. So glad the Chiefs went with him.
August 9th, 2012 at 9:42 am
Crennel’s remarks about Poe are reminiscent of what Coach Allen had to say about Nate Stupar…except Stupar was a 7th rounder and you’d expect a guy like that would have a ways to go. Hilarious.
August 9th, 2012 at 9:43 am
There is only ONE NATION. The rest are pretenders. The funniest of all has to be Routt and his Chiefs Nation bit, though. LMAO!
August 9th, 2012 at 9:44 am
Guest,
I’m about the same size, and I feel/ look great. What is diet?
August 9th, 2012 at 9:44 am
Wasn’t Poe a top 10 overall pick? Chiefs suck at drafting DT’s early in round one. Hopefully they earn another top 10 pick next year so they can burn another pick on a “cant-miss” nosetackle.
August 9th, 2012 at 9:45 am
The Big Banana Says:
August 9th, 2012 at 9:43 am
There is only ONE NATION. The rest are pretenders. The funniest of all has to be Routt and his Chiefs Nation bit, though. LMAO!
Yeah when I saw that I started to laugh! Of all people he should know!
August 9th, 2012 at 9:46 am
Poe was drafted at #11.
August 9th, 2012 at 9:47 am
LOL Hwnrdr.
August 9th, 2012 at 9:48 am
Diet isn’t all about size and weight-loss.
I’m 5′11, 185 pounds of pure American awesomeness.
Well, except the pre-diabetic part, and cholestrol issues, and horrendous heart-burn, and……..
August 9th, 2012 at 9:48 am
@Hwn – I think it’s telling, though. Tells us Routt misses the one and only Nation. Let the man live in denial, I guess. Lol
August 9th, 2012 at 9:48 am
I’m about the same size, and I feel/ look great. What is diet?
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Diet to me is preparing all my food or eating what wifey prepares for me. No more fast food, no junk food, no chips, cookies, sweets, side items. No french fries, hamburgers, no 4th meals….
Includes plenty of fruit, nuts, yogurts, grilled fish and chicken, overloads of steamed veggies and raw carrot sticks, and exteme amounts of drinking water. And coupled with at least 1500 calorie carb burning workout each morning.
August 9th, 2012 at 9:48 am
guest123 Says:
August 9th, 2012 at 9:44 am
Wasn’t Poe a top 10 overall pick? Chiefs suck at drafting DT’s early in round one.
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Scott Pioli is the same guy who drafted Tyson Jackson #3 overall.
Is there a single unambiguous success story from the Belichick coaching tree?
August 9th, 2012 at 9:50 am
Granted, I know Pioli’s not a coach, but he’s from New England during the Belichick Era, when the Hoodied Wonder himself has been unambiguously in charge.
August 9th, 2012 at 9:50 am
Yeah Jackson at #3 was a head-scratcher.
Hey I got an idea, let’s draft a guy at #3, who wasn’t all that impactful in college at his original position, only we will change positions with him.
That HAS TO work, right?
RIGHT?
August 9th, 2012 at 9:51 am
445. They took Glen Dorsey high the year before that too.
August 9th, 2012 at 9:51 am
Let’s not forget Ryan Simms either!!
August 9th, 2012 at 9:55 am
Not saying you can’t draft guys LATER in the draft and move them around and utilize their skill sets differently.
But at #3 in the whole draft? There has to be a player at the position you are looking at that, I don’t know, maybe played the position in college.
Just a thought.
August 9th, 2012 at 9:58 am
Haha, Ryan Sims. Oh man. Forgot he even existed.
August 9th, 2012 at 10:01 am
Congrats R8eray !!!!!
August 9th, 2012 at 10:03 am
Decorating Den Flag Football Team…NATION!
Another way to make kids feel good about themselves when they haven’t accomplished anything.
“Everybody deserves a trophy and to feel they are no worse than anyone else” “Everybody wins”.
“Now let’s all get some pizza and ice cream”
August 9th, 2012 at 10:04 am
The Poe Goodell hug/kiss is priceless. Commish looks like he wants to blow chunks. Meanwhile Poe looks very comfortable.
August 9th, 2012 at 10:05 am
439.hwnrdr Says:
August 9th, 2012 at 9:45 am
The Big Banana Says:
August 9th, 2012 at 9:43 am
There is only ONE NATION. The rest are pretenders. The funniest of all has to be Routt and his Chiefs Nation bit, though. LMAO!
Yeah when I saw that I started to laugh! Of all people he should know!
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He’s just being a dik cuz he knows WE KNOW how bad he really sucks.
August 9th, 2012 at 10:06 am
When Routt comes to the “Black Hole” everyone should throw yellow penalty flags at him…like hundreds of ‘em.
August 9th, 2012 at 10:07 am
DJ Johnny Says:
August 9th, 2012 at 10:06 am
When Routt comes to the “Black Hole” everyone should throw yellow penalty flags at him…like hundreds of ‘em.
That would be friggen hilarious!
August 9th, 2012 at 10:07 am
DJ Johnny Says:
August 9th, 2012 at 10:06 am
When Routt comes to the “Black Hole” everyone should throw yellow penalty flags at him…like hundreds of ‘em.
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Lol!
August 9th, 2012 at 10:08 am
did you get a chance to see my updated ‘for fun’ 53 man projected roster on #248?
I’ve added back in MM34 and Goethel. See? I’m not a hater.
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cool, GMoney
just curious, who did you have on there before?
Curtis Taylor & Nate Stupar ??
August 9th, 2012 at 10:08 am
Diet to me is preparing all my food or eating what wifey prepares for me. No more fast food, no junk food, no chips, cookies, sweets, side items. No french fries, hamburgers, no 4th meals….
Includes plenty of fruit, nuts, yogurts, grilled fish and chicken, overloads of steamed veggies and raw carrot sticks, and exteme amounts of drinking water. And coupled with at least 1500 calorie carb burning workout each morning.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$
I enjoy it all bro: Good fresh Ahi, Salmon, chicken, red meat, no pork, Pie, cake, hamburgers, yogurt, fruits, etc….
I love it all!
August 9th, 2012 at 10:10 am
454. I had to google “Poe Goodell kiss”. Without entering the site it was on, it looked cringeworthy to me. I’m glad he’s wearing the McDonaldland colors of ketchup and american yellow mustard. No place for a guy like that on the Silver and Black. You hear me Cedric Benson???
August 9th, 2012 at 10:12 am
Good Life IMO:
1- Family/ kids
2- Money
3- food
4- sex
5- weed
I’m a simple man. lol
August 9th, 2012 at 10:12 am
It was after those fagz Steelers won their last sb and started calling them selves SteelersNation after that every team wanted to have their nation. But nothing sounds better then RAIDER NATION!!
August 9th, 2012 at 10:12 am
no pork
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All forms of pork?
Like no carnitas, pulled pork sammies, linguica, etc?
August 9th, 2012 at 10:12 am
Yeah RRS, I think I have Taylor and Stupar on my first cut making the squad, on this draft I’m cutting them to the PS.
August 9th, 2012 at 10:13 am
Red Sox Nation has been around 10 years or so.
They were the first I can remember throwing around the “Nation” thing.
August 9th, 2012 at 10:18 am
Red Sox Nation <—– Makes zero sense, sounds retarded…
August 9th, 2012 at 10:18 am
Guest123 Says:
August 9th, 2012 at 10:10 am
454. I had to google “Poe Goodell kiss”. Without entering the site it was on, it looked cringeworthy to me. I’m glad he’s wearing the McDonaldland colors of ketchup and american yellow mustard. No place for a guy like that on the Silver and Black. You hear me Cedric Benson???
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Thought I was looking at an Oz screencap for a moment there…
August 9th, 2012 at 10:23 am
Proposed trade: Dwight Howard & Harrington to Lakers, Iggy to Nuggets, Bynum to Sixers, Pau/A Affalo to Magic
August 9th, 2012 at 10:23 am
Only teams I can see getting away with Nation are the Cowboys and Yanks. Even then, that’s intellectual property of the Raiders and the Nation.
Thought I guess we could look at it another way…imitation is the finest form of flattery.
August 9th, 2012 at 10:24 am
@G123
DB’s Taylor & Underwood aren’t eligible for the practice squad. Not sure about Lee & McCann …
certainly Conroy Black, Chaz Powell, Aaron Henry & Terrail Lambert are eligible though!
August 9th, 2012 at 10:24 am
464.Just Fire Baby Says:
August 9th, 2012 at 10:12 am
no pork
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All forms of pork?
Like no carnitas, pulled pork sammies, linguica, etc?
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Ah the magic animal, Simpsons…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EHsbIcV-6I
August 9th, 2012 at 10:24 am
467. That’s because it is retarded.
August 9th, 2012 at 10:24 am
*though
August 9th, 2012 at 10:24 am
All FFL players in my league there has been a draft day and time change. Please check your Yahoo mail for the announcement and details.
My sincerest apologies and if you have some issues, let me know in the yahoo mail.
August 9th, 2012 at 10:25 am
Whoever coined the term “Nation” for Oakland sure messed up on not getting it copyrighted. The money he could have made!
August 9th, 2012 at 10:26 am
Hey Dell! Sorry about last week man…had a friggen meeting at 4PM on a darn Saturday! How was it?
August 9th, 2012 at 10:26 am
Anybody else rooting for the Packers & Bears tonight??
I know Preseason “doesnt count” , but still …
August 9th, 2012 at 10:27 am
Dell,
I sent you an e-mail yesterday. Did you get it??
August 9th, 2012 at 10:29 am
Hwnrdr,
No problem. DMAC and I had a great time, and of course with Brien we had a great time.
DMAC is a cool dude and is one hela nice man.
August 9th, 2012 at 10:30 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 9th, 2012 at 10:27 am
Dell,
I sent you an e-mail yesterday. Did you get it??
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RRS, Thanks got it and I added DMAC to the league.
August 9th, 2012 at 10:31 am
I added DMAC to the league
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sweet!
Sounds like the Green Party will have a FFL rep. Raider O, Mike & Thec will certainly be rooting for him
August 9th, 2012 at 10:31 am
guest123 Says:
August 9th, 2012 at 10:25 am
Whoever coined the term “Nation” for Oakland sure messed up on not getting it copyrighted. The money he could have made!
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hahahahaha..Truth
August 9th, 2012 at 10:32 am
Always with the rescheduling!!!!
August 9th, 2012 at 10:35 am
Raider Dell Says:
August 9th, 2012 at 10:29 am
Hwnrdr,
No problem. DMAC and I had a great time, and of course with Brien we had a great time.
DMAC is a cool dude and is one hela nice man.
Yes he is a cool dude! Glad you guys had a good time! Next time…
August 9th, 2012 at 10:35 am
DB’s Taylor & Underwood aren’t eligible for the practice squad. Not sure about Lee & McCann …
certainly Conroy Black, Chaz Powell, Aaron Henry & Terrail Lambert are eligible though!
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@RRS
I don’t have either Taylor or Underwood on the Raiders in any capacity. I do have Powell making the final roster though.
August 9th, 2012 at 10:36 am
82-71 with 1:40 left for USA Women to put away Australia!
August 9th, 2012 at 10:37 am
JFB
My bad, and not always my fault, bad scheduling by others and it’s essier to blame myself.
I want to meet you and spoke to brien about catching up with you when you attend a game this year.
August 9th, 2012 at 10:38 am
Scratch that…under a minute!
August 9th, 2012 at 10:40 am
Watching the Top 10 Raiders on the NFL chennel… Pretty cool..
August 9th, 2012 at 10:41 am
My bad, and not always my fault, bad scheduling by others and it’s essier to blame myself
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Dell = leader !!
August 9th, 2012 at 10:46 am
Dell,
I will be at the Thursday night Ponies game.
Got you on the short list of Semi’s to wander around in the parking lot and meet. Hoping to meet AT LEAST:
You, B, D-MAC, DLF and Hwnrdr.
I will be in the RV tailgating section.
August 9th, 2012 at 10:49 am
JFB
What hotel will you be at or are you flying in on Thur.
August 9th, 2012 at 10:51 am
I am flying in Wednesday, staying at the lovely La Quinta in Ripon (near where my buddies live) and than staying Fri/Sat at the Hilton Financial District in SF.
August 9th, 2012 at 10:54 am
Chico,
No pork, pork products, or anything cooked with pork.
August 9th, 2012 at 10:59 am
Jim Otto…. Mr . Raider
August 9th, 2012 at 11:01 am
Dell,
Isn’t your office on the 27th floor, right near the exchange?
August 9th, 2012 at 11:01 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 9th, 2012 at 10:46 am
Dell,
I will be at the Thursday night Ponies game.
Got you on the short list of Semi’s to wander around in the parking lot and meet. Hoping to meet AT LEAST:
You, B, D-MAC, DLF and Hwnrdr.
I will be in the RV tailgating section.
We’re gonna have to make arrangements to either meet in the middle, or come on down to Lot D! Ravenaider and my firends from Hawaii will be there as well!
August 9th, 2012 at 11:02 am
Go DMAC!!!
Green Party Rules!
August 9th, 2012 at 11:04 am
Hwnrdr,
I will come to you guys, just hoping we can congregate in somewhat of group, so I am not straying around 5 different tailgates (on top of the one with my friends and wife AND also, my uncles that I will have to visit).
August 9th, 2012 at 11:06 am
Dell!
Govt Mule!!
Feel the guitar power of Warren Hayes!
August 9th, 2012 at 11:08 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 9th, 2012 at 11:04 am
Hwnrdr,
I will come to you guys, just hoping we can congregate in somewhat of group, so I am not straying around 5 different tailgates (on top of the one with my friends and wife AND also, my uncles that I will have to visit).
You know, that can be arranged! We all meet up on 66th off to the right of the freeway!
August 9th, 2012 at 11:11 am
I don’t see Reggie saying its up to Benson when asked about signing him, it doesn’t sound like his style, but I guess Im still getting to know him.
That will be a good question for the chat, tell Cork to get us some info on this rumor
August 9th, 2012 at 11:18 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
August 9th, 2012 at 11:06 am
Dell!
Govt Mule!!
Feel the guitar power of Warren Hayes!
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
I hear you loud n clear.
August 9th, 2012 at 11:19 am
Sup thec..it was yesterday..lol.. A jets pats sandwitch all day long..
August 9th, 2012 at 11:20 am
I would like to start another FFL league, All those interested let me know if your interested in your blog comments.
If we have enough interest I will set it up.
August 9th, 2012 at 11:21 am
Go for it! Go for it! Tell her something good and hope she go for it!…Go for it! Go for it! See me in the club shawty go for it! YEEEEEAAAAAHHHHHH!
August 9th, 2012 at 11:22 am
Gannon saying 9er nation is like me saying the raider dogpound…
Fu¢king stupid…
August 9th, 2012 at 11:23 am
7000 Coliseum Way Oakland,Ca<—-site of baseball,football and basketball playoffs
Anymore questions?
August 9th, 2012 at 11:23 am
HWNRDR,JFB,U GUY’S PARTY 2 HARD 4 ME.I MAY SKIP THE GAME AND ATTEND A CHURCH SERVICE…
August 9th, 2012 at 11:24 am
Marks Hair Says:
August 9th, 2012 at 11:22 am
Gannon saying 9er nation is like me saying the raider dogpound…
Fu¢king stupid…
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And people love Gannon so much huh? Screw that punk!
August 9th, 2012 at 11:24 am
THAT ABOUT WRAPS IT UP MADMAN.
August 9th, 2012 at 11:25 am
Dirt Lot……yeah those two are party animals!…glad I’m a more reserved guy lmao
August 9th, 2012 at 11:28 am
MONDAYYYYYYYYYY! It’s almost here gentlemen!
This may be the first weekend I want to get over and done with in a long time….damn Friday,Saturday and Sunday
Oops I’m tripping…..your soon to be AL West leading Oakland A’s play on the southside of Chicago vs the Palehosers….goddamn what a great 4 days ahead of us in the East Bay!
And damn Im even more a of a dumbass….RNC celebration on Sunday in downtown Oakland
August 9th, 2012 at 11:28 am
BRIAN,LAST TIME I SEEN U,U HAD A BOTTLE IN BOTH HANDS.I WAS A MILK DRINKING YOUNG MAN ‘TILL I MET U.
August 9th, 2012 at 11:30 am
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
August 9th, 2012 at 11:23 am
HWNRDR,JFB,U GUY’S PARTY 2 HARD 4 ME.I MAY SKIP THE GAME AND ATTEND A CHURCH SERVICE…
LOL, the last few years I have cut back….ever since 5 years ago when I tripped down the stairs during the Donkey game…LOL
August 9th, 2012 at 11:30 am
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
August 9th, 2012 at 11:28 am
BRIAN,LAST TIME I SEEN U,U HAD A BOTTLE IN BOTH HANDS.I WAS A MILK DRINKING YOUNG MAN ‘TILL I MET U.
LOL< I think I still got a pic of that!
August 9th, 2012 at 11:33 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 9th, 2012 at 10:13 am
Red Sox Nation has been around 10 years or so.
They were the first I can remember throwing around the “Nation” thing.
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That’s fine and all….but Raider Nation was started back in the 90s…so it trumps those 10 years….they started redsox nation in 2002…therefore they are biting
Raider Nation makes more sense since hella Raider folks are aroundthe world whereas Dead Sox fans are mostly concentrated right in that eastern seaboard area
August 9th, 2012 at 11:34 am
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
August 9th, 2012 at 11:28 am
BRIAN,LAST TIME I SEEN U,U HAD A BOTTLE IN BOTH HANDS.I WAS A MILK DRINKING YOUNG MAN ‘TILL I MET U.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA….man I dont know what to say except…..RAIIIIIIDDDDEEEERRRRRSSSSS
August 9th, 2012 at 11:41 am
Method To My Madness Says:
August 9th, 2012 at 11:34 am
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
August 9th, 2012 at 11:28 am
BRIAN,LAST TIME I SEEN U,U HAD A BOTTLE IN BOTH HANDS.I WAS A MILK DRINKING YOUNG MAN ‘TILL I MET U.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA….man I dont know what to say except…..RAIIIIIIDDDDEEEERRRRRSSSSS
The Clear and The Suit making a comeback!
August 9th, 2012 at 11:43 am
BRIAN,CAN U GET MY CELL# FROM HWNRDR ?WE WILL HOOK UP MONDAY AFTERNOON..
August 9th, 2012 at 11:45 am
DEATHROW 55 Says:
August 9th, 2012 at 10:12 am
It was after those fagz Steelers won their last sb and started calling them selves SteelersNation after that every team wanted to have their nation. But nothing sounds better then RAIDER NATION!!
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Yeah, it’s assinine actions by the Stealers (yes, I meant to spell it that way, ref. Immaculate Reception) and their a$$hole fanbase that led me to develop the phrase “ST-UCK THE F-EELERS”….
No team do I despise more…
August 9th, 2012 at 11:46 am
Well Goodson is out.
Time to get to it and sign Cedric Benson to a bargain 1 year deal!
August 9th, 2012 at 11:46 am
Bob Marley
Sorry bro, stepped out for a 2 hour lunch, but thanks for the good read on Chaz Powell. Kid seems like a great athlete that just needs some good coaching.
August 9th, 2012 at 11:47 am
I also still think McK needs to sign a vet LB like EJ Henderson or Rocky McIntosh to add some leadership and experience to that young LB corp.
August 9th, 2012 at 11:47 am
So what’s Powell gonna play for us WR/CB?
August 9th, 2012 at 11:49 am
Hey Dirt Lot…check your email
August 9th, 2012 at 11:51 am
theghostronin79 Says:
August 9th, 2012 at 11:47 am
So what’s Powell gonna play for us WR/CB?
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Definitely a ST guy for sure, he’s listed as a FS, but maybe he can play SS since dude can tackle. Hips may be a bit stiff to play him at CB in man coverage..
August 9th, 2012 at 11:51 am
B,
Sorry, I meant Red Sox Nation as the first team OTHER THAN the Raiders calling their fans a Nation.
Earlier than the Steelers, etc.
August 9th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
Well Goodson is out.
Time to get to it and sign Cedric Benson to a bargain 1 year deal!
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Huh? Goodson is out? Did I miss somthing?
August 9th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
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