Final: Cowboys 3, Raiders 0
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, August 13th, 2012 at 7:59 pm in Oakland Raiders.
With Jon Gruden in the broadcast booth and general manager Reggie McKenzie re-lighting the Al Davis torch to signify a new era, the Raiders had the scene properly set for a night of drama.
Preseason football seldom works out that way, however, and a 3-0 loss to the Dallas Cowboys Monday night in the debut of coach Dennis Allen will recede from memory the same way it did for Gruden and every other Raiders leader in his first game in charge.
Both offenses struggled throughout, with the Raiders failing to score with their first unit in large part due to a rough night by wide receiver Jacoby Ford.
Ford, who has enjoyed a mostly sure-handed and injury-free training camp, dropped a pair of passes from Carson Palmer and was the intended receiver on the first series on a Palmer pass that went into the hands of Dallas safety Gerald Sensabaugh.
The Raiders for the most part displayed the competitive nature Allen has stressed throughout training camp, but were lacking in terms of execution and crisp play.
The game ended when No. 3 quarterback Terrelle Pryor, who struggled with his passing throughout, threw an interception on a fourth-and-26 overthrow to Mana Silva with 36 seconds to play.
The Cowboys weren’t much better, with a 33-yard field goal by Dan Bailey in the third quarter accounting for the game’s only points.
The Raiders missed a chance to tie with 6:44 left when place kicker Eddy Carmona, who hit the upright four times in five attempts during a recent practice, pushed a 36-yard field goal attempt wide right.
Oakland got in position with the help of a 9-yard Pryor scramble on third-and-7 for a first down and a pass interference call on Justin Taplin-Ross against tight end Tory Humphrey.
Dallas broke a scoreless tie on a 33-yard field goal by Bailey, a 67-yard, 11-play drive that include Kyle Orton completions of 20 yards to Andrew Szczerba and 16 yards on third-and-9 to Andre Holmes.
The Raiders outgained the Cowboys 181 to 81, had more first downs (11 to 4) and had the ball for 19:07 of the first 30 minutes but went into halftime tied because of an inability to convert key plays on offense.
Three dropped passes hurt _ two by Ford on successive plays and another by a wide open Juron Criner off a rollout by Matt Leinart.
On the plus size, Dallas had only 16 yards rushing on seven attempts with no gain longer than seven yards.
The first-half penalty total was manageable by Raiders standards _ three flags for 20 yards.
– The Raiders gave up only 38 penalty yards and the defense limited to the Cowboys to 11 first downs overaell.
– Running back Darren McFadden carried twice for 20 yards and caught an 18-yard pass and took the rest of the night off.
– Palmer was 3 of 6 for 33 yards before coming out with 6:36 left in the first quarter. Besides the two drops, Ford later fumbled a punt, retrieved it and stepped out of bounds, getting scattered boos from the home crowd.
– Wide receiver Rod Streater, an undrafted free agent out of Temple who has been a standout since the offseason, caught six passes for 66 yards. In his senior year at Temple, Streater had just 19 receptions all season.
– Backup quarterback Matt Leinart completed 11 of 16 passes for 98 yards and failed to lead the Raiders to a score.
– The second-string offensive line, which was in by the second quarter, had Joe Barksdale at left tackle, Tony Bergstrom at left guard, Alex Parsons at center, Lance Nix at right guard and Kevin Haslam at right tackle.
– Running back Lonyae Miller found it rough going against the team that cut him last year, gaining 39 yards on 15 carries as the primary runner with McFadden out of the game early and Taiwan Jones and Mike Goodson injured.
– Gruden made his way to the Black Hole and was greeted enthusiastically by early arrivals. The focus of an upcoming HBO Real Sports profile, Gruden was followed by cameras.
– Raiders owner Mark Davis exchanged warm greetings with Cowboys defensive coordinator and former Raiders defensive coordinator Rob Ryan, long a staunch Al Davis supporter.
– Raiders who didn’t suit up included punter Shane Lechler wide receivers Duke Calhoun, Eddie McGee and Denarius Moore, Jones, running back Goodson, linebackers Mario Kurn and Aaron Corry, offensive tackle Zach Hurd, tight end Brandon Myers and defensive tackle Richard Seymour.
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August 13th, 2012 at 7:59 pm
bang
August 13th, 2012 at 7:59 pm
A New Era….1st time we’ve ever been shut out at home
August 13th, 2012 at 7:59 pm
Top 5 D!!!!
August 13th, 2012 at 8:00 pm
Maybe tp can return kicks
August 13th, 2012 at 8:00 pm
And the Greg knapp era has begun…
August 13th, 2012 at 8:00 pm
Raider O Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 7:59 pm
It’s PRESEASON. RELAX!
You People…. Kiffin went 4-0 in the preseason.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:01 pm
We will be ok just gotta get better
August 13th, 2012 at 8:01 pm
PurpleDrank81 Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 7:59 pm
A New Era….1st time we’ve ever been shut out at home
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In the new era.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:01 pm
#6 – Didn’t Shell go 4-0? Did Kiffin too? Don’t remember that…
August 13th, 2012 at 8:02 pm
How many passes did crooner catch? How many tackles did burris get with all that effort?
August 13th, 2012 at 8:02 pm
Klas Tjorborn Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 7:58 pm
I was impressed with the effort. Penalties down and good tackling. That’s all we can ask for in a preseason opener.
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That’s a damned lie loser. I hate how you big mouthed loser trolls accept losing.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:02 pm
Riff,
That is excellent brother. Good for your health and soul.
I do it for a month once a year. I fast from sunrise to sunset.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:02 pm
Nothing new here. Greg Knapp still sucks.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:02 pm
R8RNAZ Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 7:58 pm
5 penalties 37 yards
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Not to be overlooked.
The low penalties, DMAC healthy and a good look from the defense made for a decent night
August 13th, 2012 at 8:03 pm
J Hill Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 7:59 pm
Top 5 D!!!!
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We are still talking about practice
August 13th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
Who’d have guessed Leinart would be the most impressive looking Raider QB tonight…
August 13th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
Wow espn, move tp to te..
August 13th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 8:01 pm
#6 – Didn’t Shell go 4-0? Did Kiffin too? Don’t remember that…
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I thought it was kiffin.
Hard to remember. Trying to forget those years. lol
August 13th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
Denver scored 31 in their opener. KC scored 27 in their opener.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:05 pm
Didnt we have 4-5 1st half flags?
August 13th, 2012 at 8:05 pm
KoolKell Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
Denver scored 31 in their opener. KC scored 27 in their opener.
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Well, it’s settled then. Crown them and maybe we should just throw in the towel. lol
August 13th, 2012 at 8:06 pm
KoolKell Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 8:02 pm
Klas Tjorborn Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 7:58 pm
I was impressed with the effort. Penalties down and good tackling. That’s all we can ask for in a preseason opener.
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That’s a damned lie loser. I hate how you big mouthed loser trolls accept losing.
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You the loser you losing loser face.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:06 pm
Dink & friggin Dunk. Greg Knapp. I think Jmarcus looked better in that system.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:06 pm
i waited 6 months for this what a loser.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:07 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 8:05 pm
KoolKell Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
Denver scored 31 in their opener. KC scored 27 in their opener.
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Well, it’s settled then. Crown them and maybe we should just throw in the towel. lol
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No, but we’re definitely fking behind.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:07 pm
Cp3 needs to wake the fu¢k up..
August 13th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
Carson Palmer can’t play in a WCO system
August 13th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
Radraider Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 8:06 pm
i waited 6 months for this what a loser.
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1 preseason game where our starters were pulled first? Chill…
August 13th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
Hue Jackson went 0-4 last year in the preseason.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
dont think you can draw any conclusions about the offense tonight. Palmer had only 10 plays and if ford holds on to those easy catches its could have turned into a positive showing. My biggest concern was dvd looked no different than last year.to me he looks like a 3 or 4 yr project. Have to remember this was TPs first game in nfl. will be interested in seeing him next week
August 13th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
ESPN guys hitting on the lack of penalties from the Raiders.
That’s a victory….getting the slop out is as important as getting the defense right
August 13th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
CP was4-7 with Ford dropping 2 and ,IMO,didn’t fight on the int which went THROUGH his hands.I’ll admit the ball shouldn’t have been thrown,but that is what practice games are for.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
Nope just 3 flags..
August 13th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
RaidO Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
Carson Palmer can’t play in a WCO system
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You got that from a few series, eh? lol
This is amusing. Here come all the Debbie Downers.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:10 pm
Defense looked awesome…DMc looked superb.Ford had butterfingers-it’s gonna be OK! Streater looked awesome too!
It’s only practice everyone…we talking about practice…our 1st teams were destroying Dallas 1st teams on both sides of the ball
August 13th, 2012 at 8:10 pm
KoolKell Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 8:06 pm
Dink & friggin Dunk.
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Are those you and your wife’s pet names for each other? Which one is Dink?
August 13th, 2012 at 8:11 pm
Nyraider Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
dont think you can draw any conclusions about the offense tonight. Palmer had only 10 plays and if ford holds on to those easy catches its could have turned into a positive showing. My biggest concern was dvd looked no different than last year.to me he looks like a 3 or 4 yr project. Have to remember this was TPs first game in nfl. will be interested in seeing him next week
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Nice. Finally someone with a level headed analysis. Great point with the Ford drops. Two drive killers there.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:11 pm
Last season, Raiders got destroyed in preseason.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:11 pm
The most important outcome from the preseason….is keeping DMAC healthy
August 13th, 2012 at 8:12 pm
Freakin cry babies shut the fvck up. You a holes should not be allowed to post after a beer or two. you can not draw any conclusions from what we saw
August 13th, 2012 at 8:12 pm
WOw was that really Raider football. I can say not to panic and brush it off as a practice game, but that was pathetic.
Also to the ohio state blogger in here, what in the hell has Pryor been doing the last twenty months. Certainly not honing his skills as a QB. This kid needs another two years and maybe he may move to the second string QB, what a terrible play at QB.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:12 pm
Anybody still screaming for Pryor to be in the mix at QB???
August 13th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
Not sure why we marched that kicker out there for the FG. Nothing to gain. Just go for it. I think it was 4th and 4.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
Klas Tjorborn Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 8:10 pm
KoolKell Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 8:06 pm
Dink & friggin Dunk.
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Are those you and your wife’s pet names for each other? Which one is Dink?
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I’m talking football, Dumb Beech, not your momma.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
If ford makes those catches Palmer is 6-7….can’t ask for more than that. Tp is garbage.
It is all about mcffaden anyhow…
August 13th, 2012 at 8:14 pm
The main concern entering this camp/season was the play of the defense.Tonight they played very well.KK keeps mentioning how many points other teams scored,well,how many did those teams give up?And the cowgirls starting offense played into the 2nd qtr.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:14 pm
40. I think you can clearly see tp is not ready..
August 13th, 2012 at 8:14 pm
Pryor is like a poor mans Tebow…actually that’s really overstating it.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:14 pm
Looked a little thin out there at WR, so here’s a great idea!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrZYZktLdns
August 13th, 2012 at 8:14 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
RaidO Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
Carson Palmer can’t play in a WCO system
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You got that from a few series, eh? lol
This is amusing. Here come all the Debbie Downers.
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No, he tried it at USC with Paul Hackett and sucked. It’s really not his style of play.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:14 pm
Jesusraiderjim Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 8:12 pm
Freakin cry babies shut the fvck up. You a holes should not be allowed to post after a beer or two. you can not draw any conclusions from what we saw
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Exactly. These people act like we can predict the SuperBowl winner based on the 1st of 4 preseason games. LMAO
August 13th, 2012 at 8:15 pm
McFadden!
August 13th, 2012 at 8:15 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
Not sure why we marched that kicker out there for the FG. Nothing to gain. Just go for it. I think it was 4th and 4.
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Probably to give the kid a chance. It was bads though. He choked like Kell when he’s trying to close a house. Kool Kell couldn’t sell an igloo to an Eskimo.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:17 pm
You people are always making excuses.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:17 pm
Actually it was a good game plan by Knapp give Mcfadden early touches and get him out of the game then try all the different plays with different guys , i actually loves the play calls , just needed a better execution … so what if we got shut down … it’s freaking pre-season
August 13th, 2012 at 8:17 pm
cp3 needs to stop with the dumb ints…
August 13th, 2012 at 8:18 pm
LOL at the DVD critics.
I saw one pass completed on him, and the fake refs blew a PI call on him.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:18 pm
KoolKell Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 8:17 pm
You people are always making excuses.
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Oh we didn’t score with bunch of 2nd and 3rd stringers, lets make a big deal out of it , cancel the season tickets, we’re doomed
August 13th, 2012 at 8:18 pm
Palmer threw the ball 15+ yards down the field on 4 of his 7 attempts didn’t he?
August 13th, 2012 at 8:18 pm
The Good:
DMAC, Rod Streater, our defense pitching a shutout until the second half, the lack of penalties, and Bergstrom did a good job.
The Bad:
Lonyae Miller showed why he was available on the scrap heap. Ford sucked, pure and simple. Pryor looked like a guy who hasn’t played in almost two years.
The Ugly:
Then again, it’s hard for Pryor to go through his reads when Barksdale seemingly DOESN’T EVEN TRY to stop outside rushers. #72 was matador-blocking: waving at the DEs as they run past him. Haslam was similarly incompetent. Of the backup OT’s, I’d give Wang a solid 4, which is about 6 points higher than either Barksdale or Haslam.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:19 pm
I see DVD give up azz just about everytime they threw it on him. And we are talking Dallas’ 4th and 5 WR’s at that time.
Not a good game from him.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:19 pm
Same ole same ole, we lose, the “Real Fans” make excuses.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:19 pm
J Hill Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 8:18 pm
LOL at the DVD critics.
I saw one pass completed on him, and the fake refs blew a PI call on him.
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I seen him get tested a lot and he was abused by that big guy on some plays but its a good thing,he’s getting a lot of action
August 13th, 2012 at 8:19 pm
1’s run game looked good and those 2 drops from Ford were big. And settle down guys, DMoore wasn’t out there either. Those naked boots looked nice and that screen to Dmac was smooth as glass.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:19 pm
Do some of you really go through life being this hot and cold? Holy crap. The first friggin preseason game? Chillax.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:20 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 8:14 pm
Pryor is like a poor mans Tebow…actually that’s really overstating it.
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Aren’t you shocked that his improvement is non exsistent and he has been in the Raider Org for nearly a year.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:20 pm
KoolKell Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 8:17 pm
You people are always making excuses.
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So what did you see tonight, KK?
Cause for concern?
August 13th, 2012 at 8:20 pm
McFadden’s big run came from a designed play to follow the massive hole Cooper Carlisle created.
Just ol’ hat for Savage.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:21 pm
KoolKell Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 8:19 pm
Same ole same ole, we lose, the “Real Fans” make excuses.
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Look if you’re going to make a big deal out of a freaking pre-season loss or getting shut out , then get your candy ass out of here, we don’t need people like u
August 13th, 2012 at 8:21 pm
If Pryor wants to be considered a qb instead of a tight end he’d better start playing like one.
He couldn’t do squat against the 3rd team defense.
I know…1st preseason game, but woulda been nice to glean something positive from our future qb.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:22 pm
Pryor is better than Tebow.
Organization is making a HUGE mistake trying to make him a under C QB.
Needs to be in the Shotgun option 80% of the time, if not more.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:22 pm
I put the over/under at 50 on how many times KK post the Chiefs and Broncos score until Friday
August 13th, 2012 at 8:22 pm
So did some of you think Art Shell Part II’s team was going to roll through the SuperBowl after that stellar preseason we had that year? LMFAO! Most embarrassing year of my Raider life. Bed and Breakfast offense…sigh
August 13th, 2012 at 8:23 pm
It was a poor showing overall. But I saw no injuries so.. Win.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:23 pm
The idea of these practice games is to look at players which influences play calling.You want to look at certain players in specific situations.We did that.Some looked ok,others didn’t.Sure you’d like to win,but analyzing the young guys is the most important thing.I’d say mission accomplished.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:23 pm
im not a big mcclain fan but it was good to see him level an opponent without having to pick him up and slam him to the ground. having mcfadden in uniform makes such a difference. our offense will be fine, and you have to remember palmers favorite receiver is moore who did not play. ford had a case of the drops and injuries last year so he needs to figure it out. CP3 may not be all pro anymore but he is a legit QB who is capable. to me our season comes down to 2 things: Mcfadden staying on the field for almost an entire season and dennis allen getting this defensive unit to be average.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:23 pm
Jhill, I saw. The Dink & Dunk not produce any points. Not even close. Greg Knapp is my concern.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:23 pm
I liked the different play calls and 5 wide outs, it was nice , but you know what’s our bread and butter going to be come real season .. a lot of Mcfadden , deep passes , and screens , etc
August 13th, 2012 at 8:24 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 8:21 pm
If Pryor wants to be considered a qb instead of a tight end he’d better start playing like one.
He couldn’t do squat against the 3rd team defense.
I know…1st preseason game, but woulda been nice to glean something positive from our future qb.
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I’m giving Pryor a mulligan until he plays with actual pass-blockers at OT. I know I’m harping on this but MY GOD Barksdale was awful.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:24 pm
Did you know that Koolkell is Swedish for poopy pants.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:24 pm
Not too excited about our back up QB either. All his passes seemed like floaters. Can he zip the ball to a receiver at all??
August 13th, 2012 at 8:25 pm
66.Raider Dell Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 8:20 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 8:14 pm
Pryor is like a poor mans Tebow…actually that’s really overstating it.
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Aren’t you shocked that his improvement is non exsistent and he has been in the Raider Org for nearly a year.
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It’s 1st p.s game so we can’t say his career is over. Of course not. He looked bad. I was hoping for good.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:25 pm
BillG1962 Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 8:24 pm
Not too excited about our back up QB either. All his passes seemed like floaters. Can he zip the ball to a receiver at all??
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Not really. This is why a former Heisman winner, under 30 years old, was on the scrap heap.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:25 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 8:22 pm
So did some of you think Art Shell Part II’s team was going to roll through the SuperBowl after that stellar preseason we had that year? LMFAO! Most embarrassing year of my Raider life. Bed and Breakfast offense…sigh
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HAHAHA i bet KK was real excited at that time
August 13th, 2012 at 8:26 pm
Dakota Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
Nice push at the end Pryor…add 20 lbs and hope you can play te… It is your only hope Pryor.
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You could be right.
Here’s the thing about TP’s performance tonight – there’s no doubt he has fantastic mobility. He probably did as well as expected as far as getting the play call in and the snap off on time. He wasn’t horrible at checking down. Didn’t get picked til the very end. Even made one good throw.
The problem is, you get the feeling that the accuracy is never going to be there even if the rest of his game improves exponentially.
Too early to give up on him, but unless he shows better accuracy, he’s got no shot to have a successful NFL career as a QB.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:26 pm
BillG1962 Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 8:24 pm
Not too excited about our back up QB either. All his passes seemed like floaters. Can he zip the ball to a receiver at all??
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Agree. While the overall outcome of the game doesn’t concern me, his passes look awful. The young man has a way to go.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:27 pm
What a PUKE game. Ford drop 4 passes and fumbles a punt reception. I guess he’s trying out for the practice squad. DMac looked fine as did Palmer. Leinart is just too laid back for my liking. Pryor simply sucks. Criner & Streater are for real and may end up ahead of Ford, if he continues on this path. 1st string O-line were OK. 2’s & 3’s need a lot of work.
I’m still not sold on Knapp’s offense. Defense is a work in progress. Can’t really judge heir performance because the Cowboys stunk the place up too.
About 20,000 eats filled today. More than I thought would show up. It was really hot in the sun today.
This game was a real waste of time today.
Final word on Pryor based on what I saw. No pocket presence, poor passing accuracy, slow thinker – can’t get through his progressions after 1. He panics too easily & surprisingly was not a devastating runner with the ball. IMO, he’ll never be a top flight NFL QB. If he can catch then try him at TE. Otherwise cut your losses and move on.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:27 pm
KoolKell Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 8:23 pm
Jhill, I saw. The Dink & Dunk not produce any points. Not even close. Greg Knapp is my concern.
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why would any offensive coordinator reveal all his plays in preseason..our starting QB was on the field for 10 snaps and had 2 drops to end 2 drives. is that Knapps fault too?
August 13th, 2012 at 8:27 pm
Drops by Ford, and the choice to throw into double coverage to the shorter Ford on that first pick were all disappointing plays; but even in saying that; it wasn’t all that bad out there tonight. What was really disturbing was DVD looking nothing like the guy we need him to look like to inject some youth at corner. Chekwa looked improved (bonehead ST play), but improved nonetheless.
Biggest positives were DMC almost gettin 40 yds on three plays, and Brisel looked like a beast out there on the interior line.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:27 pm
Has Eddy Carmona made any field goals? In camp even?
August 13th, 2012 at 8:28 pm
You know they’re going to start using Pryor as a wild cat type option pretty soon, that’s going to be exciting
August 13th, 2012 at 8:28 pm
I just don’t know how you improve TP’s accuracy. Perhaps dink and dunk, boots and rollouts is exactly what this young man needs. Excapt his accuracy on the run looks terrible.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:28 pm
TP didn’t play a football game in almost 2 years. A good QB like Palmer was rusty after half a season with no games or practice.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:29 pm
I’m off to dream land. It is late in Sweden. God natt!
August 13th, 2012 at 8:29 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 8:27 pm
Has Eddy Carmona made any field goals? In camp even?
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Who knows? Who cares? Doubt he even lasts to the second round of cuts.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:29 pm
Our D was flying to the ball which was really nice to see
August 13th, 2012 at 8:29 pm
What was really disturbing was DVD looking nothing like the guy we need him to look like to inject some youth at corner. Chekwa looked improved (bonehead ST play), but improved nonetheless.
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Interesting that despite all the practice hoopla, Chekwa continues to look better in games. DVD getting worked by backup WRs is not what any of us had hoped for.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:30 pm
Maybe teach tp a few te plays…
August 13th, 2012 at 8:30 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 8:29 pm
Our D was flying to the ball which was really nice to see
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Even SportsCenter commented on it: “The Raiders made it a priority to shore up their run defense, and…it looks like they did.”
August 13th, 2012 at 8:31 pm
Not too excited about our back up QB either. All his passes seemed like floaters. Can he zip the ball to a receiver at all??
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Actually, that was the strongest throwing I can remember seeing from Matty Lice.
If he can add about another 20 mph in velocity, he’ll be able to throw as hard as Chad Pennington.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:31 pm
Nyraider Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 8:27 pm
KoolKell Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 8:23 pm
Jhill, I saw. The Dink & Dunk not produce any points. Not even close. Greg Knapp is my concern.
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why would any offensive coordinator reveal all his plays in preseason..our starting QB was on the field for 10 snaps and had 2 drops to end 2 drives. is that Knapps fault too?
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The Raiders were the only team shutout this week. The OC has to expose hiss whole offense to score a few points in pre-season? quit it.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:31 pm
Nyraider Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 8:23 pm
im not a big mcclain fan but it was good to see him level an opponent without having to pick him up and slam him to the ground. having mcfadden in uniform makes such a difference.
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I agree, I’ve been a huge critic. But he did look different today. He played faster, more instinctual. He also looked in better shape. Hope he keeps progressing. But I still think he’s a thug.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:31 pm
Nice hit by Mcclain on witten lol , nice pressure by Kelly and Houston on back to back plays
August 13th, 2012 at 8:31 pm
The game will slow down for TP the more he plays. His velocity was disappointing, but once the game slows down for him with experience he will complete more passes on the move which could lead to some big plays. He did enough to continue to get an opportunity in preseson but he’s definately a project
August 13th, 2012 at 8:32 pm
Raider O Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 8:28 pm
TP didn’t play a football game in almost 2 years. A good QB like Palmer was rusty after half a season with no games or practice.
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Thing that’s concerning is the quality of his throws. I think we’d accept rust and mental mistakes, that can be worked on. But he just doesn’t seem to throw a very good ball.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:32 pm
Quick hits.
Evidently DA is not a big believer in playing starters too long, at least week 1 of pre-season.
It was an ugly game tonight, but I’d like to see Palmer play at least a full half with McFadden and the entire first team Offense before starting to form an opinion on that unit.
Defense wasn’t tested tonight, the Dallas O-Line that started tonight stinks big-time, except for Tyron Smith.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
Good grief, Kell. So we were the only team not to score in the 2012 Preseason Week 1. I’m sure Sports Illustrated will run it as their cover story tomorrow and the President will mention it during his next presser.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
Some of you posters are ridiculous…From one play to another it’s either praise or he totally sucks and should be traded. LOL Pryor looked composed and seemed as if he was going through his reads but wasn’t getting the ball out quick enough. Doesn’t help that there was no running game either and who knows if WR’s were getting open.
Defense looked great and players were flying to the ball. Burris seemed to be involved in or at least around the area of where a tackle was made.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
When I watch Pryor I see a great receiver.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
Kell,
I’m more concerned with the drops than the play calling.
Defense looked pretty good, eh?
August 13th, 2012 at 8:34 pm
KoolKell Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 8:31 pm
Nyraider Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 8:27 pm
KoolKell Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 8:23 pm
Jhill, I saw. The Dink & Dunk not produce any points. Not even close. Greg Knapp is my concern.
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why would any offensive coordinator reveal all his plays in preseason..our starting QB was on the field for 10 snaps and had 2 drops to end 2 drives. is that Knapps fault too?
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The Raiders were the only team shutout this week. The OC has to expose hiss whole offense to score a few points in pre-season? quit it.
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It wasn’t more of not revealing or anything, it was more of testing different quarterback in different situations and give them a different play book to work with to see what they do , i mean if had a consistent plan , which we didn’t at all , we could have scored easily
August 13th, 2012 at 8:35 pm
TSReality – yea; Chekwa looked pretty solid on the times the rock was thrown his way. Everybody else though was bleh… Hopefully it was just first game jitters. I’ll wait b4 I judge. Lookin forward to next week.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:35 pm
Its hard to tell if the D improved.. Dallas has a weak o-line.. But no more 99% man to man should help alot…
August 13th, 2012 at 8:36 pm
The D was alright, nothing special, afterall Dalls sucked too.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:36 pm
*In regards to those playing corner
August 13th, 2012 at 8:37 pm
I liked seeing how D responded to runs and likes all those cool blitzes, the O will be alright with our 1st unit , just not much to look forward to in 2nd unit besides Streater and Criner
August 13th, 2012 at 8:37 pm
Who do we play this week ?
August 13th, 2012 at 8:38 pm
Seen this movie already… Why is knapp still around?
August 13th, 2012 at 8:38 pm
I still think we’re a yr away from being a playoff team.. But 3 more games will clear this up some..
August 13th, 2012 at 8:38 pm
Marley
Im guessing DA didn’t play his starters that much because we have to play again on Friday, we should find out more that game.
I mean if we score 40 points on Friday Im sure KK will say we going to win the SB, lol
August 13th, 2012 at 8:38 pm
What did criner do? Not a d$mn thing
August 13th, 2012 at 8:39 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 8:37 pm
Who do we play this week ?
Arizona
August 13th, 2012 at 8:39 pm
Streater looked good , Criner dropped 1 easy pass
August 13th, 2012 at 8:39 pm
Whatever.. The Lakers got d12..
August 13th, 2012 at 8:40 pm
Newly installed offense and defense…I wasn’t expecting an aerial and ground assault and a top 3 defense to unfold after one pre season game. Geez ppl.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:41 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 8:34 pm
KoolKell Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 8:31 pm
Nyraider Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 8:27 pm
KoolKell Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 8:23 pm
Jhill, I saw. The Dink & Dunk not produce any points. Not even close. Greg Knapp is my concern.
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why would any offensive coordinator reveal all his plays in preseason..our starting QB was on the field for 10 snaps and had 2 drops to end 2 drives. is that Knapps fault too?
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The Raiders were the only team shutout this week. The OC has to expose hiss whole offense to score a few points in pre-season? quit it.
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It wasn’t more of not revealing or anything, it was more of testing different quarterback in different situations and give them a different play book to work with to see what they do , i mean if had a consistent plan , which we didn’t at all , we could have scored easily
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IMO maybe after the 3rd preseason game where the starters play almost 3 quarters you could maybe draw some relevant opinions. But after the 1st preseason game where you had your 3rd string QB play in basically his first nfl game to start panicking is insane. i agree that both DA and Knapp will have to prove themselves this year, but this wasnt a night to draw any conclusions.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:41 pm
The play calling sucked? lol they didn’t game plan on the play calling, and im pretty sure they didn’t work all the plays yet, remember it takes even great teams like NE till 3rd or 4th week in reg season to get in synch with the whole O .. so just calm down guys
August 13th, 2012 at 8:41 pm
Realtruraider Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 8:38 pm
Marley
Im guessing DA didn’t play his starters that much because we have to play again on Friday, we should find out more that game.
I mean if we score 40 points on Friday Im sure KK will say we going to win the SB, lol
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You people are always worried about what someone says, you never give a schit About how the Raiders play
August 13th, 2012 at 8:42 pm
Wheler is DA man. Loved how he blew up the guard to break that run. Havent seen tbat type of play in a long time from the LB pos.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:43 pm
As undisciplined as we looked at times (drops, a few penalties, chekwa’s boneheaded touchback)–i still felt better about it.
Reason being: when they would pan to Dennis Allen, he looked like he was about to chew the players up at halftime–when they would show Hue Jackson, Tom Cable, Lane Kiffin, Norv Turner, Art Shell, etc.–they would all look completely clueless. Allen didn’t.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:44 pm
I know it’s preseason, but last preseason everything we saw from the Raiders were what we saw in reg season…it ALL carried over.
I’m not sayin, i’m just sayin.
We’ll see how they do on Friday and the rest of the games.
The positive of that is if it rings true again this yr. than we have ourselves a pretty decent defense.
Way too early to say the offense sucks…as horrible as it looked tonight.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:44 pm
I love how one of the 1st thing some Pryor backers do is come and slam Leinart.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:45 pm
Btw, we didn’t have a QB coach to help develop TP last season. Try to remener that (talking to you Finance guy with bad math skills).
August 13th, 2012 at 8:45 pm
Carson played like 3 series, Mcfadden played 3 snaps , you think we go scoreless if they both play all game … you guys are something lol
August 13th, 2012 at 8:46 pm
Just to clarify…Ford’s 2 drops came on back-to-back plays in the same drive and Dallas was flagged on the punt so we got the ball back, it wasn’t 2 key plays the drops, ugly yes, but not key, that drive continued despite the drops.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
A BIG part of the offense’s ineptitude was Lonyae Miller’s 2.5 yards/carry, which meant we had zero running game. With Taiwan or Goodson in there, we would have racked up multiple scores.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
I like what I saw from the Defense, I like that we didn’t have a bunch of penalties, it sounds like we didn’t have any major injuries. Theres some positives to take away from this preseason game
August 13th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
This game was about fundamentals, nothing more. Ford blew it. Other then that and the CP INT, the 1st team looked fine on both sides.
Streater stole the show.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
The 1st team offense didn’t look terrible except for Ford and he shouldn’t be running with the 1st team anyway.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
Who cares about Pryor though , if he develops to be a good player with us that can help us score then great , if he doesn’t then no big deal , he’s a 3rd stringer for crying out loud , our season isn’t depended on him , its depended on Carson and Mcfadden , we’ll go as far as they take us
August 13th, 2012 at 8:48 pm
What I learned from this game:
We should not cut Lechler for king.
Tp needs to switch to te if he hopes to stay in the NFL.
DVD isnt ready to contribute.
Leinart has nothing to worry about as to his spot as the #2 qb.
Penalties were down.
Our special teams play needs work.
Our defense looked good, but that may have been a product of cowgirl injuries rather than any improvement on our end. Same thing may happen next week against the cards. I hope we play a decent offense in week 3 of the preseason to get a better idea about our d.
McFadden is a da man.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:48 pm
Raider O Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 8:45 pm
Btw, we didn’t have a QB coach to help develop TP last season. Try to remener that (talking to you Finance guy with bad math skills).
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So Mr ohio State, your going to defend that play tonight and blame no QB coach. Last year you looked foolish defending Huff as a DB, don’t go down that road you will lose. Also my math skils have plenty of $$$ after them, do you have $$.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:50 pm
With Taiwan or Goodson in there, we would have racked up multiple scores.
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No offense Duck but how can you say that about Jones.He is never able to see the field.Isn’t that what everyone keep saying about Pryor?
August 13th, 2012 at 8:50 pm
There was no fking show. Zero Points.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:50 pm
A little perspective…last year we got our asses handed to us just about every preseason game. 0-4, we went. Yet we competed for the AFC West and would have won it had it not been for a terrible defense to close out the year. Art Shell in his 2nd tour led his team to 4-0 in the preseason and the team proceeded to absolutely embarrass itself that year. Epic fail.
SETTLE DOWN, FOLKS!
August 13th, 2012 at 8:50 pm
Seen this movie already… Why is knapp still around?
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That’s a legit question.
Some people say the reason the movie stunk the first time around was the poor cast.
Could be some truth to that.
It could also be true that the director and script sucked.
Personally, I don’t care for Knapp, but I think this team has enough talent and weapons on offense to put up points even with Knapp running the show.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:52 pm
I wouldnt play dmac again.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:52 pm
Lefty12 Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
The 1st team offense didn’t look terrible except for Ford and he shouldn’t be running with the 1st team anyway.
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Really? seriously? Fords not one of our top WR’s?
August 13th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
Raider Dell Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 8:48 pm
Raider O Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 8:45 pm
Btw, we didn’t have a QB coach to help develop TP last season. Try to remener that (talking to you Finance guy with bad math skills).
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So Mr ohio State, your going to defend that play tonight and blame no QB coach. Last year you looked foolish defending Huff as a DB, don’t go down that road you will lose. Also my math skils have plenty of $$$ after them, do you have $$.
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1- I never said he played well tonight, and I already said he needs more time to develop.
2- Facts are not excuses.
3- talking about Money? lol
I bet you $$$$ that I have more than you when you were me age.
People like you (including me) because you are classy. That’s wasn’t classy? $$$ lol
August 13th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
On the screen to McFadden, was it my imagination, or had he cut to the right instead of heading towards the middle of the field, wouldn’t he have gone the distance?
McFadden!
August 13th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
Kelly gets incentive $ for the sack
Houston splits incentive $ with McClain for the near sack and wollop.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:55 pm
@145
Exactly, theres alot of chicken littles in here
August 13th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
KoolKell Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 8:17 pm
You people are always making excuses.
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You people?!
August 13th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
I’d like to know what did people find wrong with the play-calling when the starters were in the game?Name the plays you’d change.The int was a case of Palmer throwing to the wrong rec. and had nothing to do with the call,so what was the problem?
August 13th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
Dakota Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
On the screen to McFadden, was it my imagination, or had he cut to the right instead of heading towards the middle of the field, wouldn’t he have gone the distance?
McFadden!
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Yes Mcfadden had chance to go all the way on 2 of his plays lol
August 13th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
Btw, Huff played NB with the 1st unit, so it seems a few HC and DCs agree with me.
LOL
August 13th, 2012 at 8:57 pm
“Our D was flying to the ball which was really nice to see”
That’s what I took from watching the game tonight the D played real well especially against the run. That and the lack of penalties were very encouraging.
Palmer and the O will get rolling I am not worried about the O.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:57 pm
It would be a shame if Pryor isn’t used in certain situation/packages, he’s very elusive and fast. I’d be terrified as a D.Cord if I saw Palmer, Pryor and DMAC in the backfield with a screen going to #6.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:58 pm
There was nothing wrong with the play calling , it was unconventional at times but i liked that we were trying out all plays
August 13th, 2012 at 8:59 pm
By the way, Ford did not drop that first pass, he chose to let it go because there was a defender ready to knock him on his arse, so even if ot counts as a drop, it was mostly a case of alligator arms and considering it’s pre-season, I’m not sure we needed Ford to risk a concussion that could linger for weeks.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:59 pm
Pryor isn’t going to start for us anytime soon, but if their is anything you can take out of his play today , its that he can be dangerous in wild cat and trick plays
August 13th, 2012 at 9:00 pm
At the end of the day (and it is) it was an overall deflating performance imo.
I was expecting more. I was expecting a charged up “new era” team seeing as it was the debut of the new regime on MNF, etc.
Well hear ‘it’s only the 1st game of preseason’ early and often…but…it was a bummer that’s all.
Not the end of the world…but a bummer.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:00 pm
McClain looks ready to play this year, I didn’t really notice Burris too much except for a couple plays where the WR/TE caught ball in front of him, not sure if it was his guy or what
August 13th, 2012 at 9:00 pm
^^THERE**
August 13th, 2012 at 9:00 pm
154.lefty12 Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
I’d like to know what did people find wrong with the play-calling when the starters were in the game?Name the plays you’d change.The int was a case of Palmer throwing to the wrong rec. and had nothing to do with the call,so what was the problem?
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Nothing at all, first exhibition game. Not like they’re going to open up the play book. FUNDAMENTALS, not sure why that’s so hard to understand for some folks.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:00 pm
KK-no,Ford isn’t a starting WR on our team.That distinction belongs to DHB and Moore.IMO,he should be 4 or 5 and made to concentrate on being KR and PR.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:01 pm
They traded murphy because of criner, you gotta be kidding me….
August 13th, 2012 at 9:02 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 9:00 pm
At the end of the day (and it is) it was an overall deflating performance imo.
I was expecting more. I was expecting a charged up “new era” team seeing as it was the debut of the new regime on MNF, etc.
Well hear ‘it’s only the 1st game of preseason’ early and often…but…it was a bummer that’s all.
Not the end of the world…but a bummer.
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Yes i would have liked our team to score a few times but it was really due to calling out plays that you wouldn’t normally use in different situations , it was mostly to get a feel for our team , and i bet we would have scored on the last drive had Pryor not taken that sack
August 13th, 2012 at 9:02 pm
Pryor will be inactive on game days unless he comes to his senses and starts working on being a receiver.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:03 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 9:01 pm
They traded murphy because of criner, you gotta be kidding me….
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Criner will be gold for us , stop overreacting over a god damn scrimmage game
August 13th, 2012 at 9:03 pm
Lefty12 Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
I’d like to know what did people find wrong with the play-calling when the starters were in the game?Name the plays you’d change.The int was a case of Palmer throwing to the wrong rec. and had nothing to do with the call,so what was the problem?
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No freaking points! How’s that?
August 13th, 2012 at 9:03 pm
HOLLA DUDES
nuthin like droppin a duece to ease the pain of a extremely painful loss to the sleeze stank cowbuns. im just gonna drop a slow and easy plop plop and think bout the next game, put this turd reject to rest.
HOLLA
August 13th, 2012 at 9:04 pm
Lol… Criner is slower than some of the tes on te team and he drops easy passes…
August 13th, 2012 at 9:04 pm
Twocents Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 9:02 pm
Pryor will be inactive on game days unless he comes to his senses and starts working on being a receiver.
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True, we won’t need him anyways .. all we need is good dose of Palmer and Mcfadden and we’ll be alright
August 13th, 2012 at 9:05 pm
No injuries + Not playing with our full complement of players + Limited (yet effective) DMac – Several Ford drops + Improved tackling and defensive pressure – Missed Carmona FG (don’t know why we didn’t just go for it on 4th and 3) = Nothing to be really concerned about at the end of the day …
August 13th, 2012 at 9:06 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 9:04 pm
Lol… Criner is slower than some of the tes on te team and he drops easy passes…
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Yes he dropped an easy pass but that was because it was 1st pre-season game and guys don’t want to get lit up
August 13th, 2012 at 9:06 pm
I hope Criner steps up and earns his 14k. Streater was impressive and with DMoore back in the line up, Ford better get on his game.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:06 pm
160-I’ll accept that explanation because it makes sense.If what you say holds water,why would everyone be on Palmer?I saw what you seemed to see-he didn’t go for the ball.I guess the real question is,would he have given a better effort in a real game?
August 13th, 2012 at 9:07 pm
If Pryor steps on the field in the 2012 regular season, there is something very wrong…like Palmer and leinart were both attacked by sharks while surfing the day before the game or something.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:08 pm
Ford will be fine, he had that CB burned deep on the INT and the Safety had to bail him out, Palmer should not make that throw but the fact is a healthy Ford is hard to cover one on one.
No excuse for his second drop but as I said before, the first one he chose to let it go and can’t blame him for not taking a huge on week 1 of pre-season, not when Moore is already missing time.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:08 pm
lol, Criner will be fine, he will be up all night thinking about that drop though.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:08 pm
KK is right about one thing. Greg crap runs a stale and predictable offense. It’s the same crap he ran a few years back when he was here a few years back. I remember other teams saying that we were to predictable back then, and they will be saying it again. I don’t care, I don’t expect us to be winning the bowl this year anyways. Three years from now when Reggie has everything put together and we are contending for the bowl I expect mr crap to be coaching in Canada, ay? Oh by the way, KK, your a duech bag debbie downer. Your right about knapp, but the rest of what you say sounds like a little spoiled beezy that didn’t get the dildo she wanted for her birthday. STFU Loser!
August 13th, 2012 at 9:09 pm
If we would of made those FG’s we would of won 6-3, I know Seabass wouldn’t of missed that 36 yarder, so for all you people that think its a big deal we didn’t score a point, think about that, you people, lol
August 13th, 2012 at 9:09 pm
We’re now underdogs. It’s gonna take a miracle. What in the hell went wrong. And I feel bad for the fans. And Amy, cuz she saw another season of sellouts. We looked bad.
What made us look bad was Dallas looked like steamy garbage. Pitiful.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:09 pm
179
LOL
August 13th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
* A huge hit…
August 13th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
KK,you’ve been whining about Knapp’s play calling.What would you have called different?
August 13th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
An impressive showing against the Cards can wipe everything clean.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 9:06 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 9:04 pm
Lol… Criner is slower than some of the tes on te team and he drops easy passes…
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Yes he dropped an easy pass but that was because it was 1st pre-season game and guys don’t want to get lit up
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Oooooh well, alrighty then. Lol.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
That game was a little ruff to watch…very similar to a real estate agent in Alameda County trying to rejuvenate his career!!
August 13th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
R8eray:
… or trying to watch one of the Kardashians trying to pull off a serious acting role!
August 13th, 2012 at 9:13 pm
Defense good, offence good, special teams great, defensive play calling will be great, offensive play calling will be stale. We are almost back…..almost!
August 13th, 2012 at 9:13 pm
Streater looked solid. DLine looked good v. run & pass. V12 looked unfocused. Tarver had guys in position to make plays. Respect to Lonyae, good work!
August 13th, 2012 at 9:13 pm
RNOraiderFan Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 9:08 pm
KK is right about one thing. Greg crap runs a stale and predictable offense. It’s the same crap he ran a few years back when he was here a few years back. I remember other teams saying that we were to predictable back then, and they will be saying it again. I don’t care, I don’t expect us to be winning the bowl this year anyways. Three years from now when Reggie has everything put together and we are contending for the bowl I expect mr crap to be coaching in Canada, ay? Oh by the way, KK, your a duech bag debbie downer. Your right about knapp, but the rest of what you say sounds like a little spoiled beezy that didn’t get the dildo she wanted for her birthday. STFU Loser!
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rEALLY? r u sure ? i never seen 5 wide sets or screen to RB motioning wide …or that roll out play going 1 way and then moving other and hitting the wide open guy for a nice first rd
August 13th, 2012 at 9:14 pm
Play calling seemed OK to me. No complaints there.
Don’t mind Knapp going deep on first down at all. If Palmer doesn’t throw a pick into double coverage, Raids still have 2 or 3 downs to pick up 10 and a first.
Just a horrible, horrible pick by Palmer and a decision that should concern every Raid fan. Can’t have that crap. Inexcusable.
Play that bothered me more than any other on offense ?
Matty Lice’s checkdown on 3rd down that had absolutely no chance of gaining the first. That was horse crap.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:14 pm
More blitzing and run stuffing was refreshing.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:15 pm
Lefty12 Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
KK,you’ve been whining about Knapp’s play calling.What would you have called different?
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Am I the OC or Head Coach?
I know that the Raiders were the only team shutout this week. Which tells me, at this point were behind Denver & KC.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:15 pm
5 things to do in preseason.
1. Get your known starter some snaps
1. Look for players that can snag a starting position
3. Get a look at the players fighting for the 53
4. Can the players play simple fundamental vanilla football
5. Don’t give away your playbook.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:15 pm
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August 13th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
Vic Tafur@VicTafur
Pryor: “I played like crap. I will be better on Friday”
August 13th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
Tafur@VicTafur
Wisniewski had a calf injury and Gordon came out of the game because he was ill
August 13th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
Still need a CB to step up or be found and our LB depth scares the kell out of me. On offence I can’t really ask for more, but a stud TE maybe
August 13th, 2012 at 9:17 pm
It’s funny that you guys are spelling doom and gloom over a game that was a shutout based on our backups. McFadden was torching Dallas, and had he stayed in, would’ve been a blowout, given how well our defense was playing. Our pass defense needs to improve, but I like what I saw out of our run defense. T. Pryor is too rough as a quarterback to start, he’s too eager to run it out.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:17 pm
On that drive where they missed the last field goal, I’ll bet that if they just let Pryor run with the ball (i.e. Tebow) they would’ve punched it into the end zone — then, the blog talk would’ve been much different – TP might have even been lauded as a potential All-Star! There’s still a lot of learning curve left, but I definitely saw some good things.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:17 pm
Allen said of Van Dyke & Ford: “It wasn’t the performance we were hoping for. But they’ll bounce back. It happens in the game of football.”
August 13th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
The only thing worse than a scared receiver is a slow scared receiver…
August 13th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
Realtruraider Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
Vic Tafur@VicTafur
Pryor: “I played like crap. I will be better on Friday”
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TP!
August 13th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
RNOraiderFan Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
Still need a CB to step up or be found and our LB depth scares the kell out of me. On offence I can’t really ask for more, but a stud TE maybe
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We really need a TE to step up
August 13th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
Wiz is hurt? How bad? Our Oline depth is thin too idk if we can go w/o wiz. Where is Satele?
August 13th, 2012 at 9:20 pm
The Good: Chucky B is not the DC
The Bad: Chucky B and Hue Jackson spillover
The Ugly: Chucky B and Hue Jackson were the OC & DC, but we still have some of the residue left.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
I though Ausbery was going to be fanuckingtastic, well I’m still thinking he can be. We’ll see.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
lol, Pryor looked more like soup than soup looks like soup.
Hopefully he continues to get better though.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
99-you really need to look at the int better.The ball should never have been intercepted.I’ll agree Palmer shouldn’t have thrown it into double coverage,but Ford did absolutely nothing to 1-help his QB,2-go up for the pass.As Bob Marley said he alligator armed it perhaps knowing it was practice and trying to avoid injury.At least I hope that was his reason because we don’t need another WR that is afraid of getting hit.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
Our D was fine and we’re going to have trouble against taller Receivers , other than that i loved how they flied around to the ball , i have never seen that before ever since i started watching the Raiders, DA is pretty agressive on D
August 13th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
I heard the TE depth chart went Myers, Gordon, Ausberry. Not looking good for the guy.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:24 pm
KoolKell Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 8:50 pm
There was no fking show. Zero Points.
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I feel your pain.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:24 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 9:14 pm
Play that bothered me more than any other on offense ?
Matty Lice’s checkdown on 3rd down that had absolutely no chance of gaining the first. That was horse crap.
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It is much better to check down and have the guy maybe break a tackle, than to take a sack or throw to a veiled WR beyond the sticks for an INT.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:24 pm
Oh ya what was that WR’s name???? Johnny something or other?
August 13th, 2012 at 9:25 pm
RNOraiderFan Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
Wiz is hurt? How bad? Our Oline depth is thin too idk if we can go w/o wiz. Where is Satele?
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He’s fine, he was smiling and looked ok on the side lines
August 13th, 2012 at 9:25 pm
Lefty12 Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
99-The Taiders couldn’t even score a point.What a crappy team.Last place for sure,maybe we could trade DMAC for TJACK in Seattle!!!
August 13th, 2012 at 9:25 pm
If its 3rd and 10, throw the ball at least 10 friggin yds, not 2yds. That’s what I don’t like about the dink & dunk.
It takes too long to score, you have to run too many plays, flawless.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:26 pm
Ouch!
August 13th, 2012 at 9:27 pm
I was concerned all along about not having a reliable set of hands. It’s a work in progress. I think we could be a top tier team by next year. Think we could squeak in a wild card this year, but that’s a tall order. You have to expect defensive coordinators around the league to know we don’t have a reliable set of hands. Streater’s too green. Plus he plays small. He looks like a feather. He’s going to have a tough time against 1st team defenses. Defense is much improved, something everyone should have expected with a defensive minded GM and head coach. Some had a problem with me saying that before. You can split hairs all you want to, that’s what I’m calling it. I think last year the Cowboys win this game 17-3.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:27 pm
Dakota Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 9:07 pm
If Pryor steps on the field in the 2012 regular season, there is something very wrong…like Palmer and leinart were both attacked by sharks while surfing the day before the game or something.I see a losing season.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:28 pm
I’m Glad our next game is in 4 days .. i hope we can keep our team healthy for another week lol
August 13th, 2012 at 9:28 pm
Hey Kell, you should clean the splooge off of yourself and take a few deep breaths. You’ll have all week to gloat over the Raider loss. Pace yourself guy.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:29 pm
Do I feel better, worse or the same about the team after the game?
I can’t say I feel better…
A better showing on Friday will help. Not the final score…just a better showing on offense.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:29 pm
lefty12 Says:
99-you really need to look at the int better.The ball should never have been intercepted.I’ll agree Palmer shouldn’t have thrown it into double coverage,but Ford did absolutely nothing to 1-help his QB,2-go up for the pass.As Bob Marley said he alligator armed it perhaps knowing it was practice and trying to avoid injury.At least I hope that was his reason because we don’t need another WR that is afraid of getting hit.
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Lefty, I don’t agree, ball went over Ford’s head and extended arms…the pass I was referring to was Ford’s first drop, not the long ball, that was all CP.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:29 pm
#203, good point about D-Mac. If he played 4 quarters we would of won. I don’t think he will survive being our whole offence tho. Need to be a little conservative with the guy. I really like goodson tho. Should be a beast spelling D-Mac.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:30 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
Our D was crap and we’re going to have trouble against taller Receivers , other than that i love the SEAHAWKS this year.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:30 pm
This game almost ended Dennis Allen style. If TP doesn’t take that sack at the end and lead us to victory, we would have been Tebow and the Donks. 7-3 win. Ugly but Victorious.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:31 pm
Were you at the game Kell?
August 13th, 2012 at 9:31 pm
PlunkforHOF Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 9:28 pm
Hey Kell, How do you like my Seahawks this year?
August 13th, 2012 at 9:31 pm
I really thought that pryor was going to pull it out. This team still missing that spark to get us over the hump
August 13th, 2012 at 9:31 pm
Look on the bright side. If we score any points this pre-season, it will be a minor achievement and a major accomplishment.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:31 pm
Our D was crap?
‘Boys first team doesn’t do squat. The entire squad puts up 3 points.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:32 pm
After a 3-0 game, nobody should be criticizing either defense.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:32 pm
PlunkforHOF Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 9:28 pm
Hey Kell, you should clean the splooge off of yourself and take a few deep breaths. You’ll have all week to gloat over the Raider loss. Pace yourself guy.
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Stfu dumbass. Worry about the Raiders instead of me.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:33 pm
Our first team D looked great…and they were playing vanilla.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:33 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 9:28 pm
I’m Glad our next game is in 4 days .. so I can watch us get the snot kicked out of us again.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:33 pm
BTW, Condo should be cut before tomorrow’s walk throughs.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:35 pm
If this was last years team, we lose 33-0. BIG improvement but with a long way to go. Dennis Allen will need to have a short memory. I sure as heck need to.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:35 pm
Our 9 million field goal team?
August 13th, 2012 at 9:35 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 9:32 pm
After a 3-0 game, we are right where I thought we’d be.Won’t win again til we get Cable back!!!!GOOOO SEAHAWKS!!
August 13th, 2012 at 9:35 pm
so right 504
August 13th, 2012 at 9:35 pm
I’ll borrow this from Capt. Stubing:
Please Kell, remind us again how you hate name calling.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:35 pm
Wish there was a way to cut fans for overreacting to a preseason game.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:36 pm
Anyone hear Gruden say he did a horrible job in Oakland during tonight’s telecast?
My response: HUH? Back to back AFC West titles when you were shown the door, Jon.
He’s a bit more humble than many in the nation give him credit for.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:36 pm
We will be fine as long as we keep our main guys healthy, we have no depth behind our starters .. so keeping them healthy is our # 1 priority
August 13th, 2012 at 9:37 pm
Carson played like a Old QB
Leinart played like a Backup QB
Pryor played like a BLACKup QB
August 13th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
Exactly one year ago after the first round of pre-season games, we were leading the league in penalties. Now Dalls is. We won the game in the stat column.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
PlunkforHOF Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 9:35 pm
I’ll borrow this from Capt. Stubing:
GOOO CHARGERS!!!!!
August 13th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
Agreed, Miami.
I’m thoroughly satisfied with tonight. Better than I expected. I think last year Dallas wins this game 17-3. Our defense is much better. Our offense is a huge work in progress with this receiving corp. I don’t care what Gruden says.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:39 pm
Any decent possession receivers around the league we could possibly land before trade deadline? That could be the difference maker.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:39 pm
If we had Dman, Moore, Seymour and CP3 play the entire game, we win, hands down.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:40 pm
Looks like Criner had the same snack as Ford..Butterfingers
August 13th, 2012 at 9:40 pm
We could go 23-0 with the Lombardi Trophy and there’s gonna be some fools on here talking about dropped balls and too many false starts. Relax dudes, We have a good team and I believe DA when he said the other day that we will be proud of this Team.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:41 pm
Pryor is a dumpster fire at QB. The guy can’t hit the side of a barn. All in all it was pretty bad even for the 1st preseason game. DA will get it tightened up.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:41 pm
Dan, our receiving corp looks sad. And I wish I could call it preseason jitters, but these guys never had hands. Is there any decent possession receiver in the league we might be able to land before trade deadline? That’s the one thing that might get us a wild card.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:42 pm
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August 13th, 2012 at 9:42 pm
Most of our O guys were gun shy they were not ready to be hit yet, i bet the few practices we will have in the future are going to be pretty intense like real games
August 13th, 2012 at 9:43 pm
Palmer critics:
That bomb to Ford that was picked off? Right through Ford’s hands.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:43 pm
I can’t imagine if our offense scores 14 points on it’s two first poss, what the comments in here would be? Automatic SuperBowl bid? lol
August 13th, 2012 at 9:43 pm
Joker94583 Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 9:41 pm
Pryor is a dumpster fire at QB. The guy can’t hit the side of a barn. All in all it was pretty bad even for the 1st preseason game. DA will get it tightened up.
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Same goes for CP. He sucked. No more “He had no offseason excuses”
August 13th, 2012 at 9:46 pm
RaidO Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 9:43 pm
Joker94583 Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 9:41 pm
Pryor is a dumpster fire at QB. The guy can’t hit the side of a barn. All in all it was pretty bad even for the 1st preseason game. DA will get it tightened up.
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Same goes for CP. He sucked. No more “He had no offseason excuses”
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yeah lets judge him when the real games start , not in pre-season , shall we?
August 13th, 2012 at 9:47 pm
Prior will never be an NFL QB…Tonight proved it…Time to convert to WR if he wants an NFL career.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:47 pm
Don’t agree Bob.It was the exact same type of pass that made people fall in love with the guy when he made the acrobatic catch against KC.On tonights pass he never left his feet and didn’t extend for the ball.As I’ve said over and over,the ball shouldn’t have been thrown,but he sure didn’t make any effort to help out his QB.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:47 pm
Sulli we may have to wait for surprise cut
August 13th, 2012 at 9:49 pm
DJ Sullie Fresh is back in the house…where are you spinning your outdated poorly sampled crap beats at this weekend?
August 13th, 2012 at 9:49 pm
We have a bunch of number 2 and 3 receivers a t best… we don’t have a chance without atleast one go to Guy… we couldn’t get it done with the likes of Timmy brown and jerry rice… these guys are not going to get it done…IMO
August 13th, 2012 at 9:50 pm
MY THOUGHTS ON GAME:
1. DMC looked like he’s ready to ball out this year.
2. Its still early, but defense looks like it will be just fine this year.
3. Ford played like a lame, drops 2 balls, then on int, ran Hella slow, pretending he was gonna try to make a tackle. He supposed to be fast, but you can clearly see him jogging. Hopefully he gets called out for that during films.
4. Streeter better then Criner.
5. I want Pryor to succeed, but didn’t throw good today. He’s definently a project.
* And for all those complaining about shut out, remember our 4th and 5th string RB played whole. If we had Goodson and Jones, you can bet your bottom dollar, we score more then Cowgirls.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:50 pm
Let me put it another way.If that was Moore instead of Ford it is a completion for a big game.Incomplete pass at worst.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:51 pm
Or go after welker in the offseason
August 13th, 2012 at 9:51 pm
I think the team is looking alright there is too much doom and Gloom in this room for a first preseason game #1 if Jacoby Ford catches two balls over the middle this is a different game. But it’s the preseason and I think that him letting the balls go over the middle in a preseason game so he is around in the Season Open game is alright with me. Dmac was out of the game very early. The Back-ups look like Back-ups Most of whom have never played in a NFL game. Now on to QB play I think CP3 looked real good even on that interception in the first qt. I really blame that on Ford for not going up and Fighting for the Ball. If you use Tivo go back and watch the play he sees the ball and does not jump for it or fight for the ball. I have been watching him for three seasons and I’m going to be really hard on the guy because I believe he has bought into his first year hype. JFord what have you done for me lately? I believe some of you are going in too hard to soon on Terrell Pryor to soon. This was his first full off season As a third string QB no way he was going to make plays surrounded by guys who will not be in camp two weeks from now. Mark my Words he will succeed CP3 as Qb in two years. He needs more time to develop in practice and gain experience on the field I bet Reggie and Dennis Allen See it the same way. Some you thought he was going to come out and play like a franchise QB with the scrubs. Hello right now he is a scrub that’s why he’s with the scrubs!!!! But give him time I’m going all in with TP as a star in this league.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:53 pm
new post
August 13th, 2012 at 9:55 pm
TP better start thinking about plan b in his career.. like someone said earlier.. he’s another Tim tebow at best… he should consider moving to widereceiver… he would probably excel there..
August 13th, 2012 at 9:57 pm
TP is a guy we can develop, and he is young and cheap. his salary is $465,000. Min salary for player with 0 years is $355, and 3 year vet salary is around $600,000.
Stop complaining.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:59 pm
Long BART ride from an ugly game. Thank God it’s only preseason or would be a long trip back to the East coast for us tomorrow. Did run into Gruden and Tirico as we were leaving our hotel in the lobby. After I offered Mike Tirico a free ride on the BART while we were in the elevator (he turned me down by the way) him and Gruden walked out with us to the front of the hotel where they were gettin picked up in a discreet white van. Gruden peeled off his coat and out of nowhere pulled out about a three foot magnetic raiders shield and plastered it on to the door as he sat shotgun. The driver made him take it down to which me and my family who were the only bystanders could only look at Coach Gruden and exchange a shoulder shrug with him. Hey you can’t blame a guy for tryin. Once a Raider Always a Raider. Great guys. What an experience.
August 14th, 2012 at 2:51 am
Did anyone else hear the Freudian slip that Gruden committed during the after-game radio breakdown? He was talking about the Dallas defensive backfield and accidentally referred to them as “we”. Don’t know what he was thinking, but it has to make you wonder — I know he had several discussions with Rob Ryan both before and after the game. He probably just ff’d up – kinda like those rookie refs!