Pryor takes blame for Raiders losing exhibition opener
By Steve Corkran
Monday, August 13th, 2012 at 9:45 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Second-year quarterback Terrelle Pryor has a lot to learn about playing in the NFL. Placing blame elsewhere is not one of those things that Pryor has yet to grasp.
Pryor took full responsibility for the Raiders losing to the Dallas Cowboys 3-0 on Monday night. Of course, there was plenty of blame to go around, given Pryor played only the final 23 minutes or so of the game.
Still, it’s pretty admirable for a young player to stand tall in the face of defeat and do what a quarterback is supposed to do at this level, or any level, for that matter.
“I just played like dog crap, and I’m mad,” Pryor said. “I’m mad at myself. It’s my fault we lost; I’m mad about that, too.”
Pryor completed 8 of 15 passes for 50 yards and one interception, which came on a fourth-and-26 play on Oakland’s final down of the game.
He also rushed six times for 21 yards and showed great athleticism in eluding would-be tacklers time and again in the backfield.
In fairness, Pryor was under pressure most of the time he played, with his offensive linemen not holding up their end of the deal. Still, Pryor blamed himself.
Raiders coach Dennis Allen wasn’t anywhere near as critical of Pryor, ever mindful that Pryor was playing in an exhibition game for the first time since he joined the NFL.
“For the first time to be on the football field in real game action, I was pleased that he was able to get out there and get some reps and get some experience,” Allen said. “Obviously, we’ve got to do a little bit better job of getting in and out of the huddle, getting the play snapped a little bit sooner.
“But those were all things that can be corrected, so … he’s a work in progress, and just like I’ve always talked to him about, want to see him get a little bit better every day.”
Pryor promised that he will be better next time out. The Raiders play the Arizona Cardinals on Friday night, so he won’t have to wait long.
“I don’t think I played well,” Pryor said. “I thought Matt (Leinart) played great, I thought Carson (Palmer) played great, I thought everybody else on the team played great. I just think I played like dog crap. So I’m mad about that, about how I played today. So I’m angry and I’m going to come back stronger (Friday).”
Palmer said he is there for Pryor, someone he has mentored since he arrived in a trade with the Cincinnati Bengals last October.
“I’ll be there for Terrelle; he knows that,” Palmer said. “But he’s a very confident guy, obviously very talented. He’s played quarterback for long enough to know you can’t show negative body language. He’s bummed mentally, but he’s a champ. He’s a professional, and for being so young, he’ll bounce back. I can’t wait to watch him play again (Friday).”
– There’s a reason coaches don’t get too excited about a player standing out in offseason workouts or practices during training camp.
For one, they know all too well that performing at a high level in practice is one thing, in a game quite another.
Take rookie wide receiver Juron Criner, for instance. He made a handful of spectacular catches in offseason workouts. He has yet to do that in camp and Monday he clanked a pass in the open field, with no one nearby.
Criner finished with one reception for 5 yards and looked nothing like the player we saw in offseason workouts.
On the other hand, some players keep it going and carry over their strong play into games, which really catches the coaches’ eyes.
Case in point, rookie receiver Rod Streater. He caught six of the eight passes thrown his way Monday for 66 yards. He led all receivers in reception and yards tonight.
Even then, Allen is hesitant to bite.
“Statistically, it looked like he had some yards, had some catches,” Allen said. “So in that regard, I thought he did a nice job. But I want to look at the tape and really study the details and make sure that he was executing.”
– Third-year receiver Jacoby Ford had a rough night all the way around. He got blasted on the opening kick-off after a 4-yard return, was unable to make a play on a deep pass that Cowboys safety Gerald Sensabaugh intercepted, had a pass hit off his hands and wind up incomplete and stepped out of bounds after looking shaky fielding the punt.
Few people are worried about Ford, though. He showed his first two seasons that he can be counted upon to make plays on a consistent basis. Again, just another example of a player shaking off the rust in the first game of the season and getting acclimated to a game setting.
– Allen said Palmer made the proper decision in taking a shot deep for Ford on the play that resulted in the interception.
After all, Ford was in man coverage on the outside, with Sensabaugh lined up in the middle of the field.
“We had a shot called with Jacoby, a little double move,” Allen said. “The safety made a nice play on the ball. So we’ll go back and take a look at it and see exactly what happened on the play. But you get single safety middle, you’re going to throw the ball on the outside lanes and see if you can win.”
Palmer loves taking those kinds of chances. He struck gold on a number of those plays last season, especially to then-rookie receiver Denarius Moore.
He said those are the types of plays that he and the Raiders want to work on in exhibition games.
“We had some momentum going on that first drive and just wanted to get a shot downfield,” Palmer said. “Part of that’s what the preseason’s for, to see when you have those opportunities, to take them. Obviously, now, I’d take it back. The safety ended up making a great play on it. We’ll continue to work and continue to figure out what’s best for our guys individually and when to take those shots, just continue to work.”
– So much for any concerns about running back Darren McFadden’s health. He allayed any and all concerns in a three-plan span at the outset.
McFadden bulled his way for 4 yards on Oakland’s first offensive play, then turned a short pass from Palmer into an 18-yard catch-and-run play and capped his night with a 16-yard run.
On the 18-yarder, McFadden went in motion out of the backfield, lined up wide right as a receiver, cut inside and hauled in the slant. That’s the kind of play the Raiders used when Tom Cable was coach. To great success, too. It appears as if that’s back in the playbook.
“We got accomplished what we wanted to get accomplished with him in this game,” Allen said, “which was get him a few touches early, let him get bounced around a little bit, see what he can do, and then get him out of the game and get ready for next week. We’ll evaluate next week as we go and see how much we want to play him (Friday).”
Palmer seemed almost giddy about the prospect of playing in a game with McFadden for the first time.
“He’s pretty special,” Palmer said. “It’s just great to have him in the huddle, great to see him on the field. I’m just excited to keep working with him. We want to feed him the ball. We’re going to obviously feature him in this offense.”
Allen and Palmer said it’s imperative that offensive coordinator Greg Knapp find a way to use McFadden as often as possible and in as many ways as possible.
“He’s just an explosive playmaker,” Allen said. “And we got to find ways to get him the ball and give him an opportunity to be explosive for us.”
– Center Stefen Wisniewski left the game after the first series with a calf injury, Allen said. Wisniewski got worked on by a team trainer on the sideline and missed the remainder of the game.
The fact he wasn’t taken to the locker room and watched from the sideline bodes well for a swift return to action. Alex Parsons replaced Wisniewski at center.
Tight end Richard Gordon was ill before the game, and he wasn’t able to play as much as expected. He caught one pass for 8 yards.
– As promised, first-year running back Lonyae Miller received a sizable workload in the absence of Taiwan Jones and Mike Goodson.
Miller rushed 15 times for 39 yards and caught three passes for 23 yards. He busted off a run for 9 yards and ran hard, with little to show for his effort.
“I’m just thankful for the opportunity that coach D.A. gave me and I just tried to make the most of it,” Miller said. “Obviously, running the ball for these carries, you’re going to be tired, but that’s expected; it’s preseason. You’re out there interviewing for the job. You just have to put your best foot forward.”
Miller likely will receive another healthy dose of touches against the Arizona Cardinals on Friday night unless Jones and/or Goodson returns from injury.
Miller said he is banged up but ready for more action.
“Still got work to do; that’s how I take it,” Miller said. “Whether I have a good game, a bad game, you just got to take it and forget about it and continue to move forward. We still got three games to go, so I’m not going to get too high, not going to get too low.”
– The Raiders committed only five penalties for 37 yards, while the Cowboys were flagged 12 times for 91 yards.
Not a bad start for a Raiders team fresh from a season in which it set league records for penalties and yards penalized.
“For the most part, the penalties were pretty clean,” Allen said. “Obviously, there’s a few things that we’ve got to get corrected.”
– Rookie Miles Burris filled in for injured starter Aaron Curry at the weak-side spot. Pretty heady stuff for a rookie that was selected in the fourth round of the NFL draft less than four months ago.
Burris finished with three tackles. Most important, he looked like he belonged, Allen said.
“I’ll have to go back and take a look at the tape and see exactly how he was,” Allen said, “but he, obviously, didn’t stand out in a negative regard. There were a few times where there might have been some rookie mistakes but, overall, he got experience and he got a chance to get a lot of football in and he’ll get a chance to learn from everything that happened out there.”
Burris said he settled in soon after the first snap, once he got past the jitters.
“I was a little bit nervous just because it was the first game,” Burris said. “That’s normal, similar to my first college game. We play with a pretty good speed in practice, so the speed didn’t feel too different to me when I was out there. We do a real good job of practicing and staying crisp. Obviously, the coaches have done a really good job of coaching us up on the defense, so I felt pretty sharp out there, considering it was my first game, got my feet wet and felt pretty good.”
– Second-year cornerback DeMarcus Van Dyke has played as well as any defensive back in camp so far. Again, his play Monday showed why coaches are wary of making too much of things until they get a look at players in games.
Van Dyke struggled on numerous plays Monday, late to make a play on the ball, missing open-field tackles and not being close enough to his man.
It’s all part of the process, Allen said.
“I’m not ready to say it was a step back,” Allen said of the subpar play by Van Dyke and Ford. “Obviously, it wasn’t the performance that we were hoping for, but they’ll bounce back. It happens in the game of football, and they’ll bounce back. We’re looking for them to play well (Friday).”
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August 13th, 2012 at 9:46 pm
Ouch!
August 13th, 2012 at 9:48 pm
2nd?
August 13th, 2012 at 9:49 pm
DJ Sullie Fresh is back in the house…where are you spinning your outdated poorly sampled crap beats at this weekend?
August 13th, 2012 at 9:51 pm
Kell was here too but I think he went on a cigarette run with Randy Travis.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:51 pm
MY THOUGHTS ON GAME:
1. DMC looked like he’s ready to ball out this year.
2. Its still early, but defense looks like it will be just fine this year.
3. Ford played like a lame, drops 2 balls, then on int, ran Hella slow, pretending he was gonna try to make a tackle. He supposed to be fast, but you can clearly see him jogging. Hopefully he gets called out for that during films.
4. Streeter better then Criner.
5. I want Pryor to succeed, but didn’t throw good today. He’s definently a project.
* And for all those complaining about shut out, remember our 4th and 5th string RB played whole. If we had Goodson and Jones, you can bet your bottom dollar, we score more then Cowgirls.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:52 pm
I think the team is looking alright there is too much doom and Gloom in this room for a first preseason game #1 if Jacoby Ford catches two balls over the middle this is a different game. But it’s the preseason and I think that him letting the balls go over the middle in a preseason game so he is around in the Season Open game is alright with me. Dmac was out of the game very early. The Back-ups look like Back-ups Most of whom have never played in a NFL game. Now on to QB play I think CP3 looked real good even on that interception in the first qt. I really blame that on Ford for not going up and Fighting for the Ball. If you use Tivo go back and watch the play he sees the ball and does not jump for it or fight for the ball. I have been watching him for three seasons and I’m going to be really hard on the guy because I believe he has bought into his first year hype. JFord what have you done for me lately? I believe some of you are going in too hard to soon on Terrell Pryor to soon. This was his first full off season As a third string QB no way he was going to make plays surrounded by guys who will not be in camp two weeks from now. Mark my Words he will succeed CP3 as Qb in two years. He needs more time to develop in practice and gain experience on the field I bet Reggie and Dennis Allen See it the same way. Some you thought he was going to come out and play like a franchise QB with the scrubs. Hello right now he is a scrub that’s why he’s with the scrubs!!!! But give him time I’m going all in with TP as a star in this league.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:53 pm
#5: Agree with everything except Prior…He will never be an NFL QB.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:57 pm
Pryor can be effective out of the shotgun spread.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:58 pm
TP is a guy we can develop, and he is young and cheap. his salary is $465,000. Min salary for player with 0 years is $355, and 3 year vet salary is around $600,000.
We have a capable starter and a solid backup.
Stop complaining.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:59 pm
In a wildcat type gimmick only.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:59 pm
raider hate in full effect on bspn, they show Cp3 pic, followed by Dez bryant catch and number 84 for cowboys catching ball.
Why not show Dmc run and catch, why not show kelly sacking tony homo, or Death Row laying out Witten, or The Missle with his pick.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:59 pm
Pryor looks like an allpro halfback to me.
August 13th, 2012 at 10:01 pm
Not complaining about CP3 or Leinhart…Just saying Prior will never be an NFL caliber QB.
August 13th, 2012 at 10:02 pm
let’s see what happens this Friday
August 13th, 2012 at 10:02 pm
@canuck
I hope your not right, but you might be right. Time will tell though.
August 13th, 2012 at 10:06 pm
Pryor reminds me of Tebow except not as good a passer.
August 13th, 2012 at 10:06 pm
People are being way to hard on Pryor.However,if he’d looked any good at all the opposite would be happening and some(Hothead) would be claiming he should start tomorrow and is the next greatest QB the league has ever seen.
August 13th, 2012 at 10:07 pm
I’d love to be wrong about Prior but I’m not…He is not a QB…We’re fine with CP3 and Leinhart though.
August 13th, 2012 at 10:07 pm
Anyone know where I can watch a replay of the game? I had to work tonight and friday night and im having a hard time looking for a website that replays the games (f**k NFLs $19.99 package)
August 13th, 2012 at 10:09 pm
NFLN will rebroadcast it.I believe it will be tomorrow night.
August 13th, 2012 at 10:09 pm
Not trying to slam Pryor. Even he said he played poorly.
We have to give him some slack; this being his first experience at QB in a live game in the NFL.
I like that he expects more of himself.
August 13th, 2012 at 10:10 pm
20.lefty12 Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 10:09 pm
NFLN will rebroadcast it.I believe it will be tomorrow night.
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I definitley will pass on that one.
August 13th, 2012 at 10:12 pm
Thanks Left, any idea about Friday?
August 13th, 2012 at 10:12 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 10:09 pm
Not trying to slam Pryor. Even he said he played poorly.
We have to give him some slack; this being his first experience at QB in a live game in the NFL.
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He didn’t s play a game in almost 2 years.
August 13th, 2012 at 10:14 pm
Just like DA is saying, some people looked good on paper and some looked bad on paper. It’s all about film Johnny
August 13th, 2012 at 10:15 pm
Trinity, it’s the Cowboys. ESPN is a national network. Far more viewers are tuning in interested in the Cowboys than the Raiders.
August 13th, 2012 at 10:15 pm
ESPN definitely skewed toward Dallas. On their review of the game they show Romo interviewed then a bit from Jason Garretts presser. NOTHING from any of the Raiders.
You’d think they’d show DMAC’s early plays at least.
Then they have to go on and on about the Dez Bryant catch.
They did show Kelly’s sack on Romo but it was in the perspective of how the Dallas oline might need work; NOT the apparent improvement of the Raider D.
I realize Dallas has more fans than Raiders do but i get sick of everything being skewed against us.
August 13th, 2012 at 10:15 pm
Overall Pryor did OK. He needs to get better at stepping up in the pocket ,strongly and letting the ball rip. He is reading the defense Ok but the ball release is weak because he does not have the confidence yet. In order for him to move up in The QB charts has to learn to trust his arm or he will be just another dime a dozon running QB.
August 13th, 2012 at 10:15 pm
Sorry Raider O but TP will never be a good QB…Terrible mechanics.
August 13th, 2012 at 10:16 pm
Friday is Raider network only I believe.It will then be shown on NFLN Sat night.
August 13th, 2012 at 10:17 pm
Long BART ride from an ugly game. Thank God it’s only preseason or would be a long trip back to the East coast for us tomorrow. Did run into Gruden and Tirico as we were leaving our hotel in the lobby on our way to the game. After I offered Mike Tirico a free ride on the BART while we were in the elevator (he turned me down by the way) him and Gruden walked out with us to the front of the hotel where they were gettin picked up in a discreet white van. Gruden peeled off his coat and out of nowhere pulled out about a three foot magnetic raiders shield and plastered it on to the door as he sat shotgun. The driver made him take it down to which me and my family, who were the only bystanders, could only look at Coach Gruden and exchange a shoulder shrug with him. Hey you can’t blame a guy for tryin. Once a Raider Always a Raider. Great guys. Great experience.
August 13th, 2012 at 10:17 pm
And what in the heck is wrong with J.FORD. Man, he needs alot of work.
August 13th, 2012 at 10:17 pm
KTLA is showing it…not locally though.
August 13th, 2012 at 10:19 pm
DJ-no they don’t.The network is just biased,just like we always say.
August 13th, 2012 at 10:19 pm
Too many damn dallas fans at that game too.
August 13th, 2012 at 10:21 pm
CanuckRaider Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 10:17 pm
KTLA is showing it…not locally though.
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Fans in LA should enjoy it while they can because as soon as the Chargers move back to LA I’m sure they’ll attempt to stop it.
August 13th, 2012 at 10:25 pm
lol. Cowboys are one of the most popular sports franchises in America. Up there with the Yankees and Lakers. There’s a lot of Raider fans out there but not as many as there are Cowboy fans. Anyone surprised that ESPN skews Cowboys is trippin’. They’ll do that no matter who Dallas is playing, usually. Exception Jets, Patriots. Steelers gets screwed more than anyone. They’ve won 2 Super Bowls since most teams have won their last and they’re just about always second fiddle to the national media when playing Jets or Patriots.
August 13th, 2012 at 10:27 pm
Of course ESPN is biased, as all t.v. networks are. Anyone who watches a Raiders/Cowboys game on ESPN and expects the coverage toward each team to be equal time is flat out tripping. Never going to happen. Cowboys are marketed as “America’s Team”, and that’s not changing.
August 13th, 2012 at 10:27 pm
The new medication is working MR…You’ve been making sense tonight.
August 13th, 2012 at 10:28 pm
Cowboy fans are always deep at Raider games. And at Niner games, and Niners have been sold out for 3 decades.
August 13th, 2012 at 10:29 pm
Well the Raiders are projected to be the worst team in the NFL this year so I’m not surprised with the lack of attention. it’s cool tho just wait til we start the season in a month with a healthy roster ready to prove everyone wrong. It’s better to play with little to none expectations from “the experts” rather than being projected to be a fairly decent team and not living up to expectations…
August 13th, 2012 at 10:30 pm
Cowboy fans are everywhere, they’re deep everywhere. Go to any sports bar on Sunday, you can count on about 20% of the people there being Cowboy fans, no matter where you are in the country. National networks will always reflect those demographics when the Cowboys are playing. Come on.
August 13th, 2012 at 10:32 pm
Raiders could go into a game with the Cowboys 10-0, Cowboys would still get more attention. It’s about ratings and advertising.
August 13th, 2012 at 10:33 pm
Ahh, there’s the Sully we all know and love…Flogging the dead horse’s bones long after they’ve turned to dust.
August 13th, 2012 at 10:33 pm
I realize the Raiders are not the most popular team in the league but I think they at least have to be in the team photo.
I wanna say in 2004(?) the Raiders led the league in merchandise sales and this past offseason our 76 team won the ‘Greatest of All Time’ popularity contest, and it was not due to McFadden 20 voting over and over as the other teams had multiple voters as well.
Losing hurts a teams popularity of course, but Raiders have won 4 x as many playoff games as Dallas in the last 17 yrs….and that’s even with us just now emerging from the darkest period in our history.
We’ve also won more games the past two seasons.
None of that matters though.
So much hype for a franchise that really hasn’t done squat in a long time.
August 13th, 2012 at 10:35 pm
Johnny, the networks don’t have to do anything but make money. For every 1 Raider fan in this country there are 20 Cowboy fans. It’s all about keeping people watching, and advertising revenue.
August 13th, 2012 at 10:37 pm
When the Raiders were the best team in football they still played second fiddle to a lot of the big east coast franchises. Heck, even to the 49ers, when they sucked. Why? More money in SF. Advertisers want people with money tuning in.
August 13th, 2012 at 10:38 pm
shut ur mouth sully,you worthless piece of crap. Always talking non-sense. Raiders are a real popular team too, Bspn take shots at raiders even when There talking baseball. But a niner fan such as ur stupid self wouldnt under stand how much hate our Raiders. Chump.
August 13th, 2012 at 10:38 pm
In fairness, Pryor was under pressure most of the time he played, with his offensive linemen not holding up their end of the deal. Still, Pryor blamed himself.
Raiders coach Dennis Allen wasn’t anywhere near as critical of Pryor, ever mindful that Pryor was playing in an exhibition game for the first time since he joined the NFL.
“For the first time to be on the football field in real game action, I was pleased that he was able to get out there and get some reps and get some experience,” Allen said. “Obviously, we’ve got to do a little bit better job of getting in and out of the huddle, getting the play snapped a little bit sooner.
“But those were all things that can be corrected, so … he’s a work in progress, and just like I’ve always talked to him about, want to see him get a little bit better every day.”
August 13th, 2012 at 10:38 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 10:09 pm
Not trying to slam Pryor. Even he said he played poorly.
We have to give him some slack; this being his first experience at QB in a live game in the NFL.
I like that he expects more of himself.
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I agree that we should have some patience with the development of TP into an NFL qb but maybe he needs to have some patience with himself. Beating himself up over a preseason loss seems like counter productive stress to me. His passion to succeed seems great though. Growing pains, I believe he has time to figure it out.
August 13th, 2012 at 10:39 pm
Trinity, take a deep breath.
Raiders are popular, but not nearly as popular as the Cowboys. Not even close.
August 13th, 2012 at 10:40 pm
Sorry, but he has to get a lot better fast…Just don’t see it happening.
August 13th, 2012 at 10:40 pm
CanuckRaider Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 10:15 pm
Sorry Raider O but TP will never be a good QB…Terrible mechanics.
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I respect your opinion, and I understand why you would say that, but I don’t agree. I think he can be “an NFL caliber QB”.
August 13th, 2012 at 10:41 pm
@ Sully, When did you jump on the Cowgirl bandwagon?
August 13th, 2012 at 10:41 pm
Trinity, someone who drinks as much kool aid as you can’t see that the Cowboys getting more attention than the Raiders is all about marketing. That’s what the case is here.
August 13th, 2012 at 10:42 pm
Was I on the Cowgirl bandwagon when I came right on here tonight and bragged on our 1st string D stuffing the Cowboys? Take a deep breath, Trinity.
August 13th, 2012 at 10:43 pm
Jacoby Ford is a short wr that will lose a lot of batles, hes a punt returner type.
Greg Knapp offense strikes again.
Carlson palmer,not a fit for this offense.
TPriof is a stiff
Defense looked good, so we have that positive.
August 13th, 2012 at 10:43 pm
Who gives a flying F if the Cowgirls sell more shirts than us…F!
August 13th, 2012 at 10:44 pm
Canuck, context is your friend. I’m responding to people who are complaining about ESPN giving the cowboys more attention than the Raiders. It’s like complaining about TMZ giving Justin Bieber more attention than climate change.
August 13th, 2012 at 10:46 pm
Palmer threw 3 great passes that were dropped. We need a possession receiver.
August 13th, 2012 at 10:46 pm
From the sample we saw:
1. CP looked okay.
2. DMC looked good.
3. Ford has seen better days.
4. Lonyae did Ok for a non-feature back.
5. TK proved he doesnt need Seymour next to him to be effective. But, his transformation began with Seymour’s arrival. I know Romo felt it in the ribs, may be held out of practice.
6.Run D did OK against vanilla. We’ll see.
7. Mcclain popped Witten. Nice to see.
8. King’s first punt was awesome, then he went CFL.
9. Seabass bought his M50 caliber to knife fight, overshot.
10. Pass rush left much to be desired.
11. Hamilton flashed what we have been hearing, looks good.
12. Haslam, see ya buddy. Mental mistakes and getting beat by scrubs.
13. TP, thanks but no thanks. Bad presence, technique, footwork, and even worse arm mechanics. Pryor exhibits mechanical issues fixed in Pop Warner.Add sulking and you have a waste of a roster spot. 2 years in the making, and you saw what you saw.Last time I saw such bad passes was by a certain #2….sorry, kid. He is not Cam II.
14. Secondary wasnt exposed, but there was not much of an attempt to do so.
August 13th, 2012 at 10:46 pm
Greg Knapp, Tom Cable, mentioned in this blogpost takes me back to back memories…
August 13th, 2012 at 10:47 pm
Alright peeps, good night. Except for you Sully, hope you have nightmares. Just Kidding, your still lame though.
August 13th, 2012 at 10:47 pm
“It is easier to walk around a boulder than go through it” – The Budhha
August 13th, 2012 at 10:50 pm
Trinity, you just need a simple grasp of marketing. It’s not a conspiracy theory against Al Davis’s army. It’s marketing. It’s the Cowboys. It’s about money. Sleep well.
August 13th, 2012 at 10:50 pm
Them Mckenzie twins are a sight to see, ain’t they?! Haha…
August 13th, 2012 at 10:51 pm
Im sure our 4th string QB #10 is better than TPrior.
August 13th, 2012 at 10:51 pm
“we’re not losers anymore”
August 13th, 2012 at 10:52 pm
McKenzie’s a GM, not a cheerleader.
August 13th, 2012 at 10:54 pm
I agree it’s true that it IS all about the money.
August 13th, 2012 at 10:56 pm
All I see around the league is fascination with height, weight, speed guys. Like its a new fad or craze.
Yet, Al Davis is/was mocked for his original methods.
Coaches are doing it league-wide and are considered new-age gold-finders if they are in the right circles of trust.
Newbies in the league are getting credit for the methods of the forefathers. Do not be blinded.
August 13th, 2012 at 11:07 pm
A+ for Raiders starting OLine, DLine, McFadden, Streater, back up DTs Bryant, Cumbie, Hamilton, linebackers, safeties
C for QBs
F for Ford, third string OL,
Bs for CBs, Parsons, drafted rookies, King
August 13th, 2012 at 11:08 pm
8. King’s first punt was awesome, then he went CFL.
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LMAO
August 13th, 2012 at 11:11 pm
Settle down Ladies…. You all rush to some real extreme judgements lol…. Its about as interesting as listening to my girlfriend complain about that same thing I do when she knows its NEVER gonna change. Anyhow dont get your pillows all wet crying yourselves to sleep….
August 13th, 2012 at 11:19 pm
what i learned tonite:
1) OL looks good
2) gordon may be a decent receiver
3) streater! as i have said many times, i am very skeptical of ford ever being a legit nfl wr. and he’s no punt returner either. looks very tentative when he can’t take off from the goalline on a sprint. great kick returner though.
4) miller is just so-so. decent as a banger but no way is he a 20+ carry guy. we need another RB quick. dmc’s history combined w/ goodson’s injury and jones’ smallness means we need a competent rb in a hurry. ryan grant?
5) palmer will be ok. he has a career to look at more than this game. leinart’s not a bad backup in this offense. pryor is a raw rookie. but there are exciting possibilities if he gets more savvy. it will take time.
6) kelly? all of u haters just don’t know sh!t. houston played very well. bilukidi looked stiff to me, but hamilton looked good.
7) mccain still sitting back and watching play too much. burris a little bit too. but he’s a rookie getting used to the speed of the game. wheeler looked real good.
1st team offense was hardly there. but we know they can move the ball.
defense? how about 3 points. very nice.
and here’s the BIG one! 5 penalties for 37 yards!
August 13th, 2012 at 11:20 pm
UFDAs: Kilgore, Streater, Hamilton were beasts tonight- drafted rookies will need to step up.
August 13th, 2012 at 11:21 pm
Lonyae’s 2.9 a carry is not “ok” imo. If we say “for a guy who is not very good”, then yes, I guess 2.9 is “ok”.
We need to raise our standards a little bit i think.
August 13th, 2012 at 11:21 pm
jeremy newberry made the mistake that many will. he dared speak of leinart pushing palmer. yeah right. look at their careers. if caleb hanie looks decent, will he push manning? get real.
August 13th, 2012 at 11:23 pm
Studs:
DMAC is still as good as advertised. Can he really stay healthy? I doubt it.
Wheeler – This was a steal for us. I saw him blowing up a Guard to stop a run play and couldnt be happier.
Streater – Was that Jerry Rice out there? Kid was getting open and catching everything.
Duds:
Ford – WTF happened to him. Did he just become JLH this offseason?
Criner – Yeah he dropped an easy pass but that happens to young buck trying to run before securing the ball. However, I’m more concerned if he was able to get open? Since they didnt throw the ball his way, I assumed he wasnt able to get open.
Pryor – He looked terrible BUT I love his attitude and can’t wait to see how he bounces back on Friday.
August 13th, 2012 at 11:25 pm
lonyae miller is no peyton hillis (unknown big back that unexpectedly tears it up). he had his chance. just looked so-so. not a good option. much will depend on goodson, but dmc, goodson, and jones are all injury concerns. we have to have insurance. the problem is finding a 4th back that can be 4th string but be a starter in a pinch. i like ryan grant.
August 13th, 2012 at 11:28 pm
Aig-Raiders Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 11:23 pm
Wheeler – This was a steal for us. I saw him blowing up a Guard to stop a run play and couldnt be happier.
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EXACTLY! this is what we’ve been missing. LB’s who attack the play at the right angles with gusto. i’ve been telling everyone that it’s not the DT’s, it’s the LB’s. mcclain and burris made some plays but they didn’t explode enough. burris will get there. he looks great on his highlight reel. mcclain is another story. even the play he made on witten, he didn’t wrap. just came and bumped him. i still am not sure about mcclain.
August 13th, 2012 at 11:29 pm
I’m not worried about the RB position at all. Mike Anderson and Ruben Droughs had 1k+ seasons in Dungver under the same zbs scheme.
August 13th, 2012 at 11:29 pm
most depressing thing of the night? seeing sullivan’s name pop up here. what a downer.
August 13th, 2012 at 11:29 pm
Parsons and Bergstrom appeared to be solid backups, Barksdale got burnt once, Nix looks huge and played okay as did Miller (3rd string center), Hurd out for tonight; these are our primary back ups.
Six battling it out for four to five spots, one could be traded.
August 13th, 2012 at 11:30 pm
oh, i believe the backs we have will produce if healthy, meaning dmc, goodson, and jones. but miller is not very good.
August 13th, 2012 at 11:31 pm
Other teams LB has been blowing up our Oline to stop the run. It’s all about the man with momentum and the guts to generate it. The most impressive D play in years for the Raiders was Wheeler willing to put his pads down and take it to the Oline Guard. Thank you Reggie. We finally have a real NFL LB.
August 13th, 2012 at 11:31 pm
nix was considered a potential 4th or 5th rounder. he might stick. a big kid from a big school.
August 13th, 2012 at 11:33 pm
Was it me or that dude from San Jose #53 was constantly in the opposing team’s backfield today? I thought he looked pretty good as a DE. Dez Bryant and Houston looked solid too.
August 13th, 2012 at 11:34 pm
Oracle,
Al Davis wasn’t mocked for his preference in fast players.
August 13th, 2012 at 11:34 pm
i know. after years of seeing mcclain, wimbley, groves, howard, et al, playing it like sh!t, i loved seeing wheeler play like it’s supposed to be played. i think burris will be like that too. goethel isn’t bad but he’s not exactly fast. mcclain has one year. maybe no that if curry ends up coming back (doubtful).
August 13th, 2012 at 11:35 pm
Damn everyone is slamming TP. I thought he did alright for having no pass protection. He was able to take some broken plays and get the first down.
He is our third string quarterback even though he played about half the game–third string quarterback.
Sheesh, people want Jim freakin Plunkett for third string develpmental QB.
August 13th, 2012 at 11:36 pm
Raider E Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 11:11 pm
Its about as interesting as listening to my girlfriend complain about that same thing I do when she knows its NEVER gonna change.
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Let me guess, your girlfriend is a Harvard grad with a PhD.
August 13th, 2012 at 11:37 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 11:34 pm
Oracle,
Al Davis wasn’t mocked for his preference in fast players.
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ur joking right? everyone (including u) has mocked him for going after talent rather than football players. but he was right a lot. there was a cb for dallas tonight that never played college football, just sprinted. if he was an al davis raider, he would be laughed at. of course jerry jones idolized al davis and has always tried to emulate him.
August 13th, 2012 at 11:38 pm
@Rob,
If you go back and watch college tapes of McClain, he wasnt exactly flying around at anyone. He was more of reacting and we are seeing the same type of plays so far in the pros. Go watch Willis and Lewis and you see them flying at the ball instinctively. I see Burris flying at people in college and I expect him to do the same in the Pros. You can’t teach instincts. Today, Burris was playing catch up to the game. Once he gets it down, he’ll be alright. Kid had 2 tackles and 1 asst in limited action.
August 13th, 2012 at 11:39 pm
Rob, I don’t recall mocking Al for going for fast players in and of itself, maybe for fast players that can’t do anything else. Should he not be mocked for that?
August 13th, 2012 at 11:39 pm
Oh and I forgot about DVD. Dude has ZERO instincts for the db position. I’m sorry but he got abused today by the other team’s backups.
August 13th, 2012 at 11:39 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 11:21 pm
Lonyae’s 2.9 a carry is not “ok” imo. If we say “for a guy who is not very good”, then yes, I guess 2.9 is “ok”.
We need to raise our standards a little bit i think.
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Exactly! I’ve been saying the same thing for few days now…
Especially since we have about 7 million in cap space
August 13th, 2012 at 11:41 pm
i thought pryor showed some things for a rookie with a lot of time off, and behind a poor line with poor receivers. the rush was coming and he showed incredible escapability. he didn’t seem to be finding many open receivers. maybe he wasn’t seeing them but every pro says the biggest adjustment is the speed of the game. it’s not easy getting ur feet wet. he made some bad throws and he should have thrown it away a couple times but some of that is experience. being in those situations and being level headed and knowing what to do. he’s young, nervous, inexperienced. but he did make some nice passes too. i’ll say this. i liked his potential better than i ever liked jarassic, that’s for sure. remember the simple-minded offense they always had to run with him? the other team knew they could crowd b/c he wasn’t trusted to throw downfield. pryor may never get there, but i have seen plenty worse as 3rd team qb’s in preseason.
August 13th, 2012 at 11:41 pm
Signing a player just for speed when he’s demonstrated no football skills is insane. If you want to credit Al as the pioneer in that? Be my guest. I had no problem with Al drafting for speed if the guy could play football, too, at least had a minimal of football skills. We’ve had guys through the years that could run like olympic sprinters yet couldn’t get their helmet on.
August 13th, 2012 at 11:43 pm
ON TP, they were calling lots of naked bootleg and you can’t do that with Miller back there. If you have DMAC back there, the naked bootleg would work in a heartbeat but nobody is going to bite on a fake handoff to Miller.
August 13th, 2012 at 11:43 pm
Oh and Criner had the nerve to hold out unitl right before training camp! And that is what he brings! A wide-open look and he dropped it with nobody around for 10 yards!?
Piece of !@#$%^&*
August 13th, 2012 at 11:44 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 11:39 pm
Rob, I don’t recall mocking Al for going for fast players in and of itself, maybe for fast players that can’t do anything else. Should he not be mocked for that?
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u mean like dhb? the guy with 64 catches for almost 1000 yards in his 3rd season? cuz everyone mocked him for that. when he has 80/1200 this year, where will all the idiots be? praising him and hoping no one runs tape of their earlier remarks.
August 13th, 2012 at 11:45 pm
Pryor will probably never take a snap as a starter in the regular season. Why so much talk about him, I dunno.
August 13th, 2012 at 11:46 pm
Rob,
Are you honestly making the case right now that Al’s management has been a success in recent years?
August 13th, 2012 at 11:46 pm
well, dvd certainly didn’t look as great as they’ve been making him out to be in camp, that’s for sure. hope spencer and bartell can handle it.
August 13th, 2012 at 11:49 pm
Ford Pryor Criner and third/fourth string OLs need improve play the Friday night
DVD you need to cover Larry this preseason.
Lee and Underwood played well couldn’t tell difference between starters and
Backups
August 13th, 2012 at 11:53 pm
sullivan–i have always thought al’s demise was way overblown. he made a few suspect coaching hires after gruden, and one draft pick that set the raiders back for half a decade. after jarassic, dmc, and dhb, all of the jack azzes were going off on how bad he was drafting. do u remember? how dmc and dhb were poor picks in the vein of russell. well, now dmc is regarded as one of the best backs in the nfl and dhb shut everyone’s mouth last year. notice how silent everyone is about him? they don’t know what to say. they’re not sure if he’s gonna take another step forward or not. even raiders fans think moore or ford or a rookie will lead the team in receptions, when it’s obvious dhb will be the guy. we got so used to the bull, that we kinda believe it too. how about veldheer, wiz, moore, reece, kelly, houston, shaugnessy, branch, and yes lechler and seabass? all al davis at his best and most lucid. he had it getting back to excellence when he died. if the raiders make the playoffs, it’s a shame that so many morons will go on and on about the new regime, when in fact it is very much still al’s team. i like DA and reggie but al’s imprint is still on the raiders.
August 13th, 2012 at 11:58 pm
T, QB, CB, TE will be Reggie’s primary draft picks next year.
August 13th, 2012 at 11:58 pm
I just don’t get it…
Are we as a fan base that deprived that we should accept this squad as viable heading into week 1?
I mean we have approx 7 million in cap space for crying out loud.
Don’t get me wrong I’m all for waiting to see if we have something viable from these rookies and practice squad players…but Goodson, and Jones are out as we speak. Curry is out, McClain maybe out later in the season (due to legal issues) and who will be our LBs and RBs at that point?
THIS IS NOW FORSEEABLE. Something can be done now to shore up these positions before the week 1. I’m not saying go out and get the next ray lewis, but there could be some stop-gap veterans or FAs that reasonably fill-in on these injured roster spots
August 13th, 2012 at 11:59 pm
“I just played like dog crap, and I’m mad,” Pryor said. “I’m mad at myself. It’s my fault we lost; I’m mad about that, too.”
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he’s already miles ahead of jarassic.
August 14th, 2012 at 12:01 am
the defense gave up 3 points. 5 penalties for 37 yards. these are mind boggling stats. who cares about the offense? we know they can score.
August 14th, 2012 at 12:01 am
What I learned tonite
1. Fans overreaction on the 1st preseason game is kinda what I expected.
2. There are going to be some fans calling for players/coaches heads because of what they did in the 1st preseason game, which is crazy to me
3. Some players looked rusty like Ford, but he has already shown he is a playmaker, its obvious he is going to be a big part of this offense, he will have a bounce back game Friday.
4. Palmer shouldn’t of thrown that pass, but Ford has caught contested balls like that before, he is a ballhawking WR.
5. Streater looked good, he should of caught that one down the sideline though, would of set us up good.
6. Criner tried to run before makin the catch, he was so wide open he got to excited, chalk it up as a rookie mistake.
7. The defense looked good overall, McClain looked fast and poised. DVD didn’t bring his game from training camp I want to see better play from him Friday or I might be one of these guys overreacting
8. I want to see better protection from the 2nd 3rd string O-line, Barksdale Im lookin at you
9. Pryor’s not ready yet, he needs some work, but I don’t think he is as bad as he looked in this game, I expect him to look much better Friday
Overall it is what it is, the first preseason game and we looked rusty out there. No reason to hit the panic button yet. Short week this week and Im sure these players can’t wait to get back out there and show us what they can really do, I can’t either
August 14th, 2012 at 12:01 am
rob_raider Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 11:59 pm
“I just played like dog crap, and I’m mad,” Pryor said. “I’m mad at myself. It’s my fault we lost; I’m mad about that, too.”
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he’s already miles ahead of jarassic.
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Right, I can just see DuhMarcus holding the ball like a loaf of bread, getting stripped with his mouth hanging open and then blaming the rest of the team
August 14th, 2012 at 12:01 am
Rob, I respect your loyalty, but you’re trying way too hard to block out the reality of this organization in the past 20 years. Just think of what the Raiders’ record would be in that time without Gruden.
August 14th, 2012 at 12:04 am
– Allen said Palmer made the proper decision in taking a shot deep for Ford on the play that resulted in the interception.
After all, Ford was in man coverage on the outside, with Sensabaugh lined up in the middle of the field.
“We had a shot called with Jacoby, a little double move,” Allen said. “The safety made a nice play on the ball. So we’ll go back and take a look at it and see exactly what happened on the play. But you get single safety middle, you’re going to throw the ball on the outside lanes and see if you can win.”
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I call bullspit on this one.
Pass should have never been thrown. Period.
Could Ford have done a better job ? Yes.
Did the Safety make a helluva play ? Yes, it’s the NFL.
Ford was pretty much blanketed. CB was stride for stride and had outside position. Safety had the inside and over the top covered.
It’s first down, not 3rd. You don’t try to force it or gamble on ‘winning’ against double coverage in that situation.
Palmer has to look elsewhere, check it down or throw it away.
DA should be chewing CP’s ass out for that pick instead of coddling him.
Most of the semi’s here will agree with this statement;
The key to the Raids having success on offense rests primarily on DMAC staying healthy and CP cutting those damned picks out.
Not a very good start for the latter part of that equation.
I’m going to start calling Palmer, ‘Captain Pick’, until I see evidence that picks like the ones we saw in GB last year and the one last night are flukes and not the norm.
August 14th, 2012 at 12:10 am
see sullivan–this why people are annoyed by u. the past 20 years? u know dam well it’s the last decade only. art shell’s 90’s raiders had some very good years. they had a winning decade. but u love to try to slip in these insults and hope they stick. they were in the super bowl a decade ago. they shoulda been in the year before, but were robbed by one of the worst calls in sports history. after gannon went down, they struggled to find a good qb, which is kind of a big thing in the nfl. then al davis (never caring about the still racist naysayers) drafted a big mega-talented black kid who unfortunately became everything those naysayers aid he would be. a lazy druggie who once he had the money, couldn’t care less about anyone or anything. it set the raiders back for many years. they have been .500 for the last two years. not great but not horrible either. we’re really talking about 2003-2009. 7 years of being bad. that’s it. the hype (and u) are ridiculously wrong.
August 14th, 2012 at 12:12 am
Sullivan44 Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 12:01 am
Rob, I respect your loyalty, but you’re trying way too hard to block out the reality of this organization in the past 20 years. Just think of what the Raiders’ record would be in that time without Gruden.
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or just think if they never had madden or flores either! they would have been horrible since the 60’s!
but guess what? they had madden and flores. and they had gruden too. it counts. al davis hired him. he gets credit for it.
August 14th, 2012 at 12:15 am
raiderman–it was a poor throw. no doubt. but palmer’s career has indicated that the norm for him is being very good. he had 2700 yards last year in basically 9 games. he’ll be fine. once they realize that ford isn’t a very good wr. dhb, moore, and streater. plus dmc and reece. those are guys who can get open, catch the ball, and make plays consistently.
August 14th, 2012 at 12:17 am
btw, has no one been interested in kiffin being called a liar in the press? i mean he flat out lied about voting his team #1. like al said, kiffin is a liar.
August 14th, 2012 at 12:27 am
With what’s out there rather save the 7 million towards next year be nice to be under the cap and sign a top FA.
August 14th, 2012 at 12:31 am
Special teams didn’t look to special, this is another area I want to see do alot better on Friday
August 14th, 2012 at 12:34 am
rob_raider Says:
August 13th, 2012 at 11:53 pm
sullivan–i have always thought al’s demise was way overblown. he made a few suspect coaching hires after gruden, and one draft pick that set the raiders back for half a decade. after jarassic, dmc, and dhb, all of the jack azzes were going off on how bad he was drafting. do u remember? how dmc and dhb were poor picks in the vein of russell. well, now dmc is regarded as one of the best backs in the nfl and dhb shut everyone’s mouth last year. notice how silent everyone is about him? they don’t know what to say. they’re not sure if he’s gonna take another step forward or not. even raiders fans think moore or ford or a rookie will lead the team in receptions, when it’s obvious dhb will be the guy. we got so used to the bull, that we kinda believe it too. how about veldheer, wiz, moore, reece, kelly, houston, shaugnessy, branch, and yes lechler and seabass? all al davis at his best and most lucid. he had it getting back to excellence when he died. if the raiders make the playoffs, it’s a shame that so many morons will go on and on about the new regime, when in fact it is very much still al’s team. i like DA and reggie but al’s imprint is still on the raiders.
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Some good points, Rob.
There were some real whiffs on very high draft picks, that more than anything else, led to the demise of the Raids and years of futility.
There was also some horrid free agent signings.
In recent years there was also some very good drafting in the middle and later rounds and some excellent signings of undrafted free agents.
It’s a little bit unfair to mock Al for all his mistakes but not to acknowledge that he brought in some good talent towards the end and had the Raids on the rise.
I’m hoping that RM has great success as GM, but find it a little incredulous that alot of Raider fans think he can do no wrong and that every one of his picks is destined for stardom.
Take it all with a grain of salt.
August 14th, 2012 at 12:46 am
Looking forward to Friday’s game.
Watched some of Zona’s first pre-season game and came away impressed by their secondary. Some real ball hawks and bangers back there.
Going to be a good test to see if the Raids can get the passing game going against those guys.
August 14th, 2012 at 12:47 am
Overall, it was a confused and inconsistant showing for the Raiders and the Cowboys: I doubt either team will do much this year.
Of course my assessment runs after watching the 49er game this past weekend. SF looked great and will probably play great too and move far into the playoffs this season.
One hopeful sign for the Raiders is that their defense looks markedly improved. Of course the step backward is that the offense sucked. Without DMAC Raiders did squat.
For all the CP worshippers, your God is flawed, and as I predicted, and still predict, will not play better than he played last year. In the end, tonight, he still throws a bonehead INT, which I expected, which I know will carry over to the regular season.
WR’s looked good with Criner and Streator leading the way. As I predicted DHB, when not force fed the ball cannot keep up with those having natural born talent, and just disappears, like he did tonight.
As I have said many times, we should package Moore, Jones, Ford, and Seymour and trade them either for an excellent running back or CB.
We will rue the day we let M Bush get away.
August 14th, 2012 at 1:07 am
What exactly did criner do tonite that told you he was good?
August 14th, 2012 at 1:08 am
Stick to watching your whiners.You obviously have no clue about the Raiders.From your comments I doubt you even watched the game.
August 14th, 2012 at 1:25 am
You Rock Cork and You Rock TP! TP is a honorable young Man….they were not blocking for him and the WRs were not getting open and yet this Man takes all the blame. I call that very honorable, courageous and a natural born leader. Many don’t see it now but TP will succeed with more patience and continuous hard work. I mean this was his first time playing QB in a NFL preaseason game for crying out loud. I’m a true fan of TP.
August 14th, 2012 at 1:38 am
rob_raider Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 12:17 am
btw, has no one been interested in kiffin being called a liar in the press? i mean he flat out lied about voting his team #1. like al said, kiffin is a liar
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Yes he is.
August 14th, 2012 at 1:51 am
blackandsilverside Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 12:47 am
Overall, it was a confused and inconsistant showing for the Raiders and the Cowboys: I doubt either team will do much this year.
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After the very first pre-season game?
Get a grip already.
As I keep saying, this is a rebuilding team: new coach, new QB, newly formed OL, new GM, new system.
They’re are probably going to go around 8-8 but so what?
I’m more pleased with this team than I have been in a long time because we are building something really good.
We have our best QB since Gannon and I think he might end up being the best since Plunket.
Palmer is a really good, smart quarterback and that pass to the sidelines that he threw to little Jacoby Ford on the sidelines was all on Ford.
My biggest concern has always been the OL since we have a new center who hasn’t played that position much and we’re reshuffling the line despite the fact that the Veldheer/Wiz left side was playing really well.
It’s going to take time for the new OL to jell and for Palmer and the receivers to get used to each other in a real game.
Both teams looked like they were playing the first pre-season game.
You were expecting something else?
August 14th, 2012 at 1:54 am
Pryor took full responsibility for the Raiders losing to the Dallas Cowboys 3-0 on Monday night. Of course, there was plenty of blame to go around, given Pryor played only the final 23 minutes or so of the game.+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
So what Steve?
Isn’t that what he’s supposed to do if he’s any kind of a man?
How often do you see players blaming someone else?
August 14th, 2012 at 1:59 am
Prior either needs glasses or a lobotomy.
The guy cannot throw the ball.
On the other hand he really has some moves.
You watch him and think that there must be some way we can use this guy.
Prior is more like Teebow than Stabler or Plunkett or Gannon.
Prior and Teebow should form a club: Guys who can’t throw the football.
We should use Prior as the Jets are using Teebow.
August 14th, 2012 at 2:09 am
Preseason but I came on here just to see how many wondered if ford wasn’t applying himself fully. Carson should have done better job on that play , he was late throwing that and the safety was watching but , it looked like the ball was still catchable. That wasn’t the only time ford looked like he didn’t wanna get hit or hurt? Criner ? We had chances to win but its preseason. I am still just as excited about the building of this organization and wow its preseason but the defense and WHAT do we have some linebackers for once. Some unknown linebackers making plays.GO Raiders….
August 14th, 2012 at 3:05 am
Probably already been said – but the game will be rebroadcast on NFL Network at 9 PM tonight (west coast time).
August 14th, 2012 at 4:22 am
Pryor reminds me of Eric Dickerson.
I have never seen so many guys faked out of their jock straps.
August 14th, 2012 at 4:53 am
Pryor showed all of the negative things that have me doubting he will ever make it in the NFL, and none of the good things I was hoping for. But, it was his first game, so I’ll cut him some slack.
The bottom line is that as long as McFadden is healthy, the Raiders have a competitive team.
Also I thought Streater passed Criner on the depth chart and is headed for Ford’s job in short order
August 14th, 2012 at 4:55 am
It is good to see the Sullivan back last night. He is very popular in Sweden.
August 14th, 2012 at 4:55 am
Pryor has a lot of work to do…. Hopefully , and I believe they are… Allen and Reggie are committed to developing Pryor….. .. You can see the desire in Peyor… Something a certin # 2 didn’t have … Rooting for Pryor….. McFadden looked like the McFadden we need him to be….. Defense showed some promise …. And neither the cowboys or Raiders will look like that in the first regular season game….same with play calling …last night was audition night… And it looked like it… pretty much what I expected …. Gonna be a good season…
August 14th, 2012 at 5:04 am
It is my understanding that the approx 7 million in cap space that we currently have DOES NOT rollover to next year.
The biggest concerns this year have got to be backup RB and LB.
If MCfadden goes down and Mclain gets suspended this team is going down.
There could be atleast some stop gap FAs out there that we could sign to shore up those spots…maybe on one year contracts?
August 14th, 2012 at 5:06 am
Is this team gonna function with chicken neck Goodson and Goethel as the starting LB/RB combo?
August 14th, 2012 at 5:08 am
Funny, you all acting like Rolando is All-Pro now. He still hasn’t done anything.
August 14th, 2012 at 5:08 am
Raidertalk Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 5:06 am
Is this team gonna function with chicken neck Goodson and Goethel as the starting LB/RB combo?
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Ummm, no. Goethel ain’t got it and Goodson can only be a lead back for one or two games in a row
August 14th, 2012 at 5:13 am
Its sad Rolando is a NOT probowler, but this D was worse than pathetic without him last year on D. Sadly there is no one on the roster right now who could play to the mediocre performance of Rolando.
August 14th, 2012 at 5:14 am
Goethel was injured last year. I think he could do the business good.
August 14th, 2012 at 5:19 am
‘The QB must go down, and he must go down hard.’
Anyone else notice how close TK came to taking Romo out ?
Watch his sack and Romo’s reaction and body language as he tries to get up after it again.
Romo was shook up. Wasn’t that the hit was so hard, but it looked like he realized he narrowly avoided getting injured.
Romo hasn’t been a poosy. He played through the busted rib last year. He came back after the busted clavicle the year before.
But I think the pounding and injury is taking it’s toll and getting into his mind.
Might be reading way too much into this, but it’s possible he might not be able to take many more hits and is aware of it.
August 14th, 2012 at 5:20 am
No worries, Pryor. Palmer was just as bad if not worse. Sadly, Leinart was the best Raiders QB on the field last night. Good thing it was preseason.
August 14th, 2012 at 5:21 am
raidertalk Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 5:06 am
Is this team gonna function with chicken neck Goodson and Goethel as the starting LB/RB combo?
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We’re going to miss Bush.
That guy really wore down the defence due his size and toughness and was a great change of pace from McFadden who isn’t built to go down the middle.
He wasn’t a great blocker and he never seemed to be in the shape to last the second half of the season but he was a great compliment to McFadden.
Goodson’s OK but he’s not big enough and he won’t wear down the line like Bush.
McFadden looks sensationally ready right now but if we make a habit of sending McFadden down the middle he’s going to get injured unless he can borrow Bush’s body.
August 14th, 2012 at 5:21 am
Goethel was also injured last year and the year before that; he has not proven anything–another question mark with no significant pro playing time.
August 14th, 2012 at 5:29 am
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
We’re going to miss Bush.
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I never understood why Bush was such a lightning rod around here. I thought he was a great second RB and they should have done everything possible to re-sign him. But he had his fair share of haters on here.
August 14th, 2012 at 5:30 am
It is my understanding that the approx 7 million in cap space that we currently have DOES NOT rollover to next year.
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That was my understanding as well, but I recall the normally well informed ‘bcz’ saying in here that it DOES carry over.
Doesn’t make sense that it would, but there’s some bizarre rules out there.
I’m sure one of the semi’s here will have a definitive answer before the day is out.
August 14th, 2012 at 5:31 am
Did Cork ever give an update on Wizniewski’s injury?
August 14th, 2012 at 5:36 am
RaidingTexas Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 5:29 am
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
We’re going to miss Bush.
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I never understood why Bush was such a lightning rod around here. I thought he was a great second RB and they should have done everything possible to re-sign him. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
“But he had his fair share of haters on here.”
That’s the nature of this blog.
You read the posts and some people who claim to be in the Nation are giving up already.
McKenzie wanted Bush as most would but we just couldn’t afford him.
I agree with you about him maybe not being a starter but he really wore down the line and was a great change of pace from McFadden.
August 14th, 2012 at 5:37 am
Pryor is not an NFL QB. I couldn’t say that before with any conviction till last night, but the kind of work he needs to be an NFL QB is so remedial, you’d need to send him back to high school developmental football in an AAU league (I won’t say Pop Warner).
But wow, his speed in the pocket and lateral quicks sideline to sideline is awesome. I think the time is now to change his uniform number and put him in with the tight ends and learn to run some routes. He’s got great size, speed, physicality. The guy’s a beast and a playmaker with the ball in his hands. But I’ve seen better, much better QB play from Darren McFadden on rollout sweep option pass plays.
Terrelle Pryor = Turrible Pryor (as a QB)
August 14th, 2012 at 5:39 am
Where’s my buddy JFB ?
Think he mentioned an early rise and long drive this morning.
Probably still wearing the white 55 while he grips the Hyundai steering wheel and weaves down the road wearing a big grin thinking of Slo hitting Witten.
Slo-mania !
August 14th, 2012 at 5:40 am
Pryor is not an NFL QB.
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Either is the Tebow. But, he won games.
August 14th, 2012 at 5:40 am
People are crying about the $7 mill in cap space, but Reggie is sitting back and waiting for the 53 man cut-down day. There will be plenty of good table scraps then and Reggie will have ammo and cap space to be aggressive poaching other teams talent and fortifying the roster.
one nation#
August 14th, 2012 at 5:41 am
Speaking of Slo, I got to give him props for laying the wood hard on Jason Witten. I bet Witten didn’t think he’d get rocked so hard in game one of preseason. Keep the hits a-comin #55!
August 14th, 2012 at 5:46 am
I don’t care about the offense not scoring last night. Who cares? It’s first preseason game with new system. I was impressed by the defense and the lesser penalties. Offense will get it’s points.
August 14th, 2012 at 5:46 am
The more I think about Captain Pick’s first interception of the year and DA’s bullsht defense of the throw,, the more upset and concerned I become.
That crap has got to stop.
Immediately.
August 14th, 2012 at 5:53 am
I agree #158,
Horrible decision by Palmer to chuck the ball up with into deep double coverage. The safety read his eyes the whole way. I wish the playcalling for Palmer would have been similar to Leinart’s calls, even if that was conservative. We needed to get a long 8 to 10 play drive and get the feel of executing a scripted game plan instead of rolling the dice on a risky play right out of the gate. McFadden was unstoppable. That advantage alone should have opened up seams for Streater and Criner to march down the field slowly but surely.
Ford had a really bad game. I think he’ll bounce back, but they can’t keep forcing the ball to him like that.
August 14th, 2012 at 6:04 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Captain Pick? Really? Who else you want in there? Leinhart? Pryor is obviously not ready but come on guys, first game in 20 months!
I think our D played well, despite no Seymour! Burris handled himself well in place of Curry!
Anyways, it was the first game of a new era…not panicking yet!
August 14th, 2012 at 6:05 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
Either is the Tebow. But, he won games.
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NFL history is littered with mediocre QBs that have won games.
August 14th, 2012 at 6:06 am
I’m a little uncomfortable with the ‘Captain Pick’ moniker.
But until Palmer quits throwing those half-assed interceptions, he needs a nickname that aptly describes his tendency to throw them.
I might start calling him TIM Palmer.
The Interception Machine.
But if I go with TIM Palmer, that means we have two TP’s at QB.
Hmmmmm.
August 14th, 2012 at 6:08 am
guest123 Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 5:40 am
People are crying about the $7 mill in cap space, but Reggie is sitting back and waiting for the 53 man cut-down day. There will be plenty of good table scraps then and Reggie will have ammo and cap space to be aggressive poaching other teams talent and fortifying the roster.
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Good Call; ryan grant has been thrown around as far as RB, are there any good MLB prospects out there?
August 14th, 2012 at 6:11 am
I’d love to have Ryan Grant at the league minimum. I bet Reggie has a standing offer on the table right now and Grant is biding his time awaiting other offers.
August 14th, 2012 at 6:14 am
I do agree with the fact that Palmer should have checked down and threw somewhere else. Ford is too small to even try to make a play on that one! The thing that got me was that DMAC was killing it and they went away from it…
I hope Stephen gets better…Parsons almost gave them a good field.
I only watched the first qtr and part of the second, then came home in the middle of the 4th. Streeter looks like he will make the roster!
August 14th, 2012 at 6:14 am
I heard our 3rd D sucked out there. True?
August 14th, 2012 at 6:16 am
I don’t want to single out any one man as reason for the run stuffing of DeMarco Murray. But if there was one HUGE upgrade to point to that we didn’t have last year was Weaver making plays and crushing guards on the way to the ball carrier. RUN STUFFER! Let’s just say we won’t be missing Kam Wimbley.
August 14th, 2012 at 6:19 am
Weaver ? You mean Wheeler ?
August 14th, 2012 at 6:20 am
Barksdale looked slow and sluggish. I don’t think he’ll even make the team. Parsons looked like the backup center. I heard Wiz got hurt. Hope he comes back soon.
Chimdi definitely looked like a 3rd stringer, but for all the camp talk of DVD he didn’t look much better. Seconadary is still a work in progress.
August 14th, 2012 at 6:20 am
Sorry Wheeler…My bad!
August 14th, 2012 at 6:23 am
Chimdi Chewbacca was better than DVD
August 14th, 2012 at 6:24 am
Mornin’ Nation!
Lots to take away from last night, even a 3-0 game. Some thoughts on the offense:
-Darren McFadden looks exactly like Darren McFadden. If he’s healthy, we’re a playoff team. If he’s not…not so much.
-If Ford doesn’t shake that game off, Rod Streater will be the 3rd WR behind DMo and DHB. Raiders might really be on to something with that kid.
-Pryor’s 1st pro game, his first game of any kind in a year and a half, let’s not read too much into it. The fact that he’s taking a pre-season loss hard is a good sign. The Raiders have literally years to try & develop him. Meanwhile, he’s a 3rd stringer that functionally costs no money. Not a problem, not even worth thinking about very much
-The Raiders have tissue paper depth along the offensive line. I like our 5 starters, but holy crap, every backup looked awful. Joe Barksdale in particular may be a casualty of the switch to the ZBS. He nearly got Leinart and Pryor killed on more than one occasion. I hope Zach Hurd can get into a game, I’d like to see what he can do. Any unsigned vets worth a flyer out there?
-Clearly the offense is a work in progress, but with an entirely new scheme, I’m not overly worried just yet.
-Did I mention Darren McFadden is awesome?
-Get well soon DMoore.
-Man, Darren McFadden rules.
August 14th, 2012 at 6:26 am
One thing we learned last night…
All the talk about Knapp bringing the Houston playbook here wasn’t idle speculation.
The Criner drop came on a play lifted DIRECTLY from the Kubiak/Texan offense.
I still say Greg Knapp is crap.
August 14th, 2012 at 6:27 am
NFL is such the lame. They are most popular sport in world and billion dollar babies. But they can’t pay the zebras extra money. WTF? What a bunch of hypocrites.
August 14th, 2012 at 6:28 am
Offensive game plan was very vanilla last night. I’m sure Knapp Sack has more tricks in the bag.
August 14th, 2012 at 6:29 am
PA, I agree! Not hitting the panick button as of yet! Remember last year we went 0-4 in pre-season, but got off to a dam good start until JC and DMAC got hurt! I’m sure the coaches will look at film and evaluate each position to get us better! With a lot of rookie coaches and an entirely different scheme, losing only 3-0 is kinda impressive, from a D stand point! Right now props to Tarver! Greg Knapp better get our O rollin…
August 14th, 2012 at 6:29 am
Anyone know any good sports gambling sites?
August 14th, 2012 at 6:30 am
Klas wants to be the baller.
August 14th, 2012 at 6:31 am
I still say Greg Knapp is crap.
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I agree until proven otherwise 99! He better get a step on, or Al Saunders will be there waiting!
August 14th, 2012 at 6:31 am
Good stuff SNBPA…
The one thing I disagree with is carrying T. Pryor as a ’small investment’. I am glad the days of scholarships are over because we need all 53 men to contribute each and every Sunday. Pryor better be out there gunning on kickoffs or taking bubble screens if he wants to make the 53 man team. His QB play and instincts sucked. I don’t see that improving a great deal over the next 3 games. That’s not a big deal while we have 90 or 80 roster spots. But it becomes a big deal when we have to cut down to 53.
August 14th, 2012 at 6:32 am
I would cut Pryor and keep Maruette King.
August 14th, 2012 at 6:34 am
Defensive thoughts:
-And here this was the unit I was worried about. The first team defense, particularly the front 7, absolutely embarrassed Dallas’s offensive line. It was awesome to see. And Seymour didn’t even suit up.
-Phil Wheeler was EVERYWHERE, man. I hope if he keeps this up into the regular season, Reggie can sign him to a contract extension & not even risk him hitting free agency.
-RoMac looked more confident and in charge than I’ve ever seen him. He was making plays and being right where he needed to be. Maybe all he needed was a real defensive co-ordinator?
-Burris held his own. Good to see since Curry’s knee is not looking promising. If he can only do that, the LB corps should be okay.
-Bartell got beat badly by Dez Bryant on that one pass, but Bryant is really really good, so that’s going to happen. Otherwise decent. Shawntae Spencer was good. DVD and Chekwa……ugh. At least Chekwa looked like he knew what was doing to an extent. Van Dyke was ATROCIOUS. Could be another Al Davis practice star/game flop. Bryan McCann had better coverage than either DVD or CC.
-Giordano was solid. Great backup/spot starter. Glad to have him back. Noticed Huff around the ball a lot more than usual.
-MM34 was a beast. Between him and Branch, the Raiders have no worries about the SS position at least.
-Christo Bilukidi was disappointingly invisible. Jamie Cumbie looks like he should at least get another year on the practice squad, with the chance to be signed to the active roster if there’s an injury.
-My two defensive camp sleepers were Dominique Hamilton and Kaelin Burnett so I was keeping my eye on both. Loooovvveedd what I saw from Hamilton; the Raiders may be forced to find room for him on the active roster. Burnett was quiet, but I noticed he was forcing Pat McQuistan to hold him a lot (which went uncalled) so there was that. Carl Ihenacho was making some nice plays too.
-If they can get that secondary into any kind of shape, this has the hallmarks of a defense that could rank in the 10-15 range, which should be good enough once the offense finds its rhythm. But man, am I worried about that secondary.
August 14th, 2012 at 6:34 am
I was very impressed by the defense and cut in penalties. I think we could all do without the drops and not have Lechler hold for the FG attempts.
August 14th, 2012 at 6:35 am
I ordered my King jersey last night. Its ok, if he gets cut I can always say it a MLK jersey. Klas is down with civil rights.
August 14th, 2012 at 6:36 am
having*
August 14th, 2012 at 6:37 am
Klas, Pryor gonna rock it like a Swede on Friday, man on a mission!
August 14th, 2012 at 6:37 am
My thoughts mesh with yours TxRaider
August 14th, 2012 at 6:38 am
TxRaider210 Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 6:37 am
Klas, Pryor gonna rock it like a Swede on Friday, man on a mission!
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I hope so! He looked more like a Finish fish monger last night.
August 14th, 2012 at 6:38 am
Tx, you ever come to Sweden I will show you good time at the discoteques.
August 14th, 2012 at 6:39 am
Tx, you can borrow my silver pants.
August 14th, 2012 at 6:39 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 6:38 am
TxRaider210 Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 6:37 am
Klas, Pryor gonna rock it like a Swede on Friday, man on a mission!
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I hope so! He looked more like a Finish fish monger last night.
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LOL Yeah he did look crappy out there, maybe it will serve as motivation for the young fella.
August 14th, 2012 at 6:39 am
That first boom by King was FN impressive! It went 58 yards in the friggen air! Gotta love it…I hope we can find room for that guy! But, we all know it wont happen. And who the F was that back up kicker last night? Wow!…although Seabass missed that easy one also, but in the dirt!
August 14th, 2012 at 6:39 am
Also Mad Scientist Tarver deserves some kudos for cleaning up on the penalties. The defense played fast and loosel, looked active and still didn’t commit the mental errors we have all been used to. New Reggime#
August 14th, 2012 at 6:40 am
Guest,
My reply to that would be every team carries 3 QBs and would you rather that 3rd QB be a loser like John Beck or somebody along those lines or a guy who could potentially become something someday?
August 14th, 2012 at 6:40 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 6:39 am
Tx, you can borrow my silver pants.
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Maybe Pryor needs a pair of lucky silver disco pants!
August 14th, 2012 at 6:40 am
184.Klas Tjorborn Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 6:35 am
I ordered my King jersey last night. Its ok, if he gets cut I can always say it a MLK jersey. Klas is down with civil rights.
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LMAO
August 14th, 2012 at 6:41 am
What I like is that this was pretty much all vanilla last night! If all continues on this path, I can’t wait til Sept 10th!
August 14th, 2012 at 6:42 am
Infield dirt is so embarrasing! Feels like a minor league city. There has to be some way to roll in some sod and staple it down. Or roll in the entire surface. baseball dirt is bad for football.
August 14th, 2012 at 6:42 am
Want to slightly amend something I said; Lucas Nix looked fine at right guard and Bergstrom wasn’t terrible at left guard.
There’s GOT to be better depth than Joe Barksdale and Kevin Haslam at tackle, though. An injury to Veldheer or Barnes could be catastrophic.
August 14th, 2012 at 6:44 am
198 and 199
Agreed 100%
August 14th, 2012 at 6:45 am
With dirt on field, it looks like Raiders playing at county fairgrounds.
August 14th, 2012 at 6:45 am
Good Tuesday, everyone!
Things to Take Away from Last Night’s Game:
1) Our startting offense and defense are fine.
2) Jacoby Ford needs to treat the preseason a little more seriously.
3) Pryor is a work-in-progress, but he gets a mulligan for now. Last night, the man had no running game and no time to go through his reads.
4) Our backup C and OG situation is fine.
5) Our backup OT situation is absolutely horrid. Barksdale in particular can’t handle an outside speed rush to save his life. When the semis are clamoring for ZACH HURD, you know something’s wrong.
6) King can boom kicks but is way too inconsistent right now. I wish him well with his future team.
7) Lonyae Miller may have value as a short-yardage hammer but he is not a #1 back.
9) Rod Streater’s already our #4 wideout. Could he make a push for #3?
10) DVD plays way better in practices than the actual games.
August 14th, 2012 at 6:45 am
I guess a lot of Raider fans look like rodeo clowns.
August 14th, 2012 at 6:46 am
OL depth an issue. Reggie is awaiting 53 man cut day as his Christmas day. I think we see some a few guys added to our roster right before the season. Some of the expected reserve lineman aren’t going to make the roster. I think there will be some surprises.
August 14th, 2012 at 6:46 am
Pryor took full responsibility for the Raiders losing to the Dallas Cowboys 3-0 on Monday night. Of course, there was plenty of blame to go around, given Pryor played only the final 23 minutes or so of the game.
Still, it’s pretty admirable for a young player to stand tall in the face of defeat and do what a quarterback is supposed to do at this level, or any level, for that matter.
“I just played like dog crap, and I’m mad,” Pryor said. “I’m mad at myself. It’s my fault we lost; I’m mad about that, too.”
Pryor completed 8 of 15 passes for 50 yards and one interception, which came on a fourth-and-26 play on Oakland’s final down of the game.
He also rushed six times for 21 yards and showed great athleticism in eluding would-be tacklers time and again in the backfield.
In fairness, Pryor was under pressure most of the time he played, with his offensive linemen not holding up their end of the deal. Still, Pryor blamed himself.
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Terrelle Pryor = Raiders future franchise QB!
August 14th, 2012 at 6:47 am
5) Our backup OT situation is absolutely horrid. Barksdale in particular can’t handle an outside speed rush to save his life. When the semis are clamoring for ZACH HURD, you know something’s wrong.
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It’s true, man
August 14th, 2012 at 6:49 am
Terrelle Pryor = Raiders future franchise QB!
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“I just played like dog crap”
August 14th, 2012 at 6:49 am
The Wang got beaten last night.
August 14th, 2012 at 6:50 am
208.
Wang was awful. Cut him already. OL is starter strong and then falls off a cliff.
August 14th, 2012 at 6:50 am
“I’ll be there for Terrelle; he knows that,” Palmer said. “But he’s a very confident guy, obviously very talented. He’s played quarterback for long enough to know you can’t show negative body language. He’s bummed mentally, but he’s a champ. He’s a professional, and for being so young, he’ll bounce back. I can’t wait to watch him play again (Friday).”
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I’m glad that Pryor doesn’t just shrug his shoulders after a bad game or a loss, like JaMarcus Russell, Aaron Brooks & Jason Campbell did in Oakland
August 14th, 2012 at 6:51 am
Klas, how about DMAC, Streater and the defense rockin it like Swedes! Dallas wasn’t running the ball for schit either
August 14th, 2012 at 6:51 am
Wang was solidly below average, but still better than Haslam or Barksdale. At least Wang MIGHT be able to handle a speed rush.
August 14th, 2012 at 6:51 am
Infield dirt is so embarrasing! Feels like a minor league city. There has to be some way to roll in some sod and staple it down. Or roll in the entire surface. baseball dirt is bad for football.
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Best cure for that will be for the A’s to get eliminated soon. Then they can start sodding it permanently.
August 14th, 2012 at 6:52 am
TxRaider210 Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 6:51 am
Klas, how about DMAC, Streater and the defense rockin it like Swedes! Dallas wasn’t running the ball for schit either
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Those boys are bonafide Swedish cock stars!
August 14th, 2012 at 6:53 am
The A’s should move to San Jose right now.
August 14th, 2012 at 6:54 am
At least we learned that Pryor can play football and chew gum at the same time.
August 14th, 2012 at 6:54 am
TxRaider210 Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 6:51 am
Klas, how about DMAC, Streater and the defense rockin it like Swedes! Dallas wasn’t running the ball for schit either
5 carries for 4 yards when I left! And how’s that hit on that WR after Houston almost sacked Romo?
August 14th, 2012 at 6:54 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 6:52 am
TxRaider210 Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 6:51 am
Klas, how about DMAC, Streater and the defense rockin it like Swedes! Dallas wasn’t running the ball for schit either
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Those boys are bonafide Swedish cock stars!
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You’ll see on Friday, Pryor’s foot-work it superior to anyone who frequents the local disco!
August 14th, 2012 at 6:55 am
Allen said Palmer made the proper decision in taking a shot deep for Ford on the play that resulted in the interception.
After all, Ford was in man coverage on the outside, with Sensabaugh lined up in the middle of the field.
“We had a shot called with Jacoby, a little double move,” Allen said. “The safety made a nice play on the ball. So we’ll go back and take a look at it and see exactly what happened on the play. But you get single safety middle, you’re going to throw the ball on the outside lanes and see if you can win.”
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Allen bails Palmer out?
you guys ready for the gunslinger ??
Carson Palmer is going to throw at least 15 INT’s this year. Let’s just hope he throws for enough yards & TD’s to make up for it!
August 14th, 2012 at 6:56 am
Pryor just needs to shut his brain off and play football.
August 14th, 2012 at 6:56 am
The only unsigned vet I can find after a quick look who might be worth a look would be Kareem McKenzie, ex-Giants tackle. He’s not a starter anymore, but could be a decent backup.
August 14th, 2012 at 6:56 am
hwnrdr Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 6:54 am
TxRaider210 Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 6:51 am
Klas, how about DMAC, Streater and the defense rockin it like Swedes! Dallas wasn’t running the ball for schit either
5 carries for 4 yards when I left! And how’s that hit on that WR after Houston almost sacked Romo?
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I was very impressed by the starting D, guys looked active and aware out there for sure. TK rolled Romo and that was awesome!
August 14th, 2012 at 6:58 am
Bet Romo and Witten are massaging each other’s rib cages after that one.
August 14th, 2012 at 6:58 am
I thought Pryor looked ok. First game he’s played in 2 years.
Let me put it this way ….
I’ll take Pryor over QB like Kolb, Tavaris Jackson, Tebow, and a few other starters in this league.
Just wish there was some type of minor league system where he could get some reps.
August 14th, 2012 at 6:58 am
Allen bails Palmer out?
you guys ready for the gunslinger ??
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I’m excited. For every throw Palmer tries to force, he’ll make two more that few other QBs can.
The key with a QB like Palmer is to have a defense that can bail you out. That appears to be coming along.
August 14th, 2012 at 6:59 am
5 carries for 4 yards when I left! And how’s that hit on that WR after Houston almost sacked Romo?
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That was RoMac. Totally clean hit too, lowered the shoulder and BOOM!, knocked Witten silly
August 14th, 2012 at 6:59 am
Didn’t see the 2nd half, so I will hold off on DVD commentary for the most part.
Did notice he is the starting gunner.
August 14th, 2012 at 6:59 am
The Raiders committed only five penalties for 37 yards, while the Cowboys were flagged 12 times for 91 yards.
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JFB was right.
with Al Davis & Hue Jackson no longer in the picture and Reggie & Dennis replacing them made all the difference!
penalties cut in half from last season
August 14th, 2012 at 6:59 am
The play Bartell got beat on could have been worse, at least Dez didn’t get behind the D and take off.imo
August 14th, 2012 at 6:59 am
I’ll take Pryor over QB like Kolb, Tavaris Jackson, Tebow, and a few other starters in this league.
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Serious? Kolb is an upgrade over Leinart, easily. I would rather have Tebow and Jackson as our #3 any day.
August 14th, 2012 at 6:59 am
with Al Davis & Hue Jackson no longer in the picture and Reggie & Dennis replacing them made all the difference!
penalties cut in half from last season
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Schitty play has consequences now!
Same thing with gap discipline it appears.
August 14th, 2012 at 7:00 am
The game would have easily ended tied or 6-3 if Lechler had been holding for the FG’s imo.
August 14th, 2012 at 7:01 am
Our best bet for backup OT at this point is to wait for cuts, then see who’s out there. Nobody on the FA market right now is even as good as who we have because if they were, they’d be in someone’s camp.
August 14th, 2012 at 7:01 am
Pryor was an athletic version of #2. Throwing lowballs and highballs and balls a half second too late. It’s an adventure for any receiver to haul in a Pryor pass. I thought I’d seen the end of those type of throws when we got rid of Sizzurp.
August 14th, 2012 at 7:02 am
I have a HUGE issue with Huff as the 1st team nickel.
DVD, Chekwa, or Pat Lee need to be playing that position. Those guys are better corners than Huff is.
Huff is better thsan Gio as a FS.
Don’t understand why we weaken 2 positions like that.
August 14th, 2012 at 7:02 am
How’s it goin Tx?
August 14th, 2012 at 7:02 am
233.RaiderDuck Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 7:01 am
Our best bet for backup OT at this point is to wait for cuts, then see who’s out there. Nobody on the FA market right now is even as good as who we have because if they were, they’d be in someone’s camp.
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It’s looking that way. Keep an eye on the ZBS teams’s waiver wire, then pounce.
August 14th, 2012 at 7:02 am
Is Kwame Harris still available?
August 14th, 2012 at 7:02 am
DMAC may have went for a buck in the first half against Dallas’ starters if he played a half..
August 14th, 2012 at 7:03 am
RaiderDuck,
I agree. Wait and be prepared with a sizable cap number and poach other teams OL depth. They’ll be some good ones out there exposed on other practice squads as well.
August 14th, 2012 at 7:03 am
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Not bad bro, hyped about that defense last night man! DMac and Streater went off too!
August 14th, 2012 at 7:03 am
It was good times seeing Rob Ryan and Callahan last night. A pimp walk down memory lane.
August 14th, 2012 at 7:05 am
Streater will be our best WR two years from now. You can take that Swedish guarantee to the bank.
August 14th, 2012 at 7:05 am
Guest123 Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 7:01 am
Pryor was an athletic version of #2. Throwing lowballs and highballs and balls a half second too late. It’s an adventure for any receiver to haul in a Pryor pass. I thought I’d seen the end of those type of throws when we got rid of Sizzurp.
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The big difference here is that Pryor is displeased with how he played and wants to improve. JaPaycheck would have shrugged his shoulders and said “It’s only preseason. Who cares?”
August 14th, 2012 at 7:05 am
Sure hope Streater isn’t treated like Hagan was last year. Great preseason, and then forgotten like yesterday’s newspaper.
August 14th, 2012 at 7:05 am
G123,
Since Pryor hasn’t played in 2 years, I’d expect a few games before he looks like the 60% passer he was in college.
The athleticism you talk about his HUGE compared to being a slug in the pocket.
WRs get paid a lot of $. So what if it’s not an “easy” ball to catch?!!?
I’m on board.
August 14th, 2012 at 7:08 am
Pryor was under pressure most of the time he played, with his offensive linemen not holding up their end of the deal!!!
And that’s all I got to say about that…
Good Morning A.M. Crew!
August 14th, 2012 at 7:09 am
I’m pretty happy with what I saw outta 1st team D…. McCheese put a nice hat on Whitten…I loved how Wheeler came in and knocked the piss outta the RG and clogged the running lane. They flat shut the run DOWN. Plus Houston pressure with TK Sack. Burris got his nose in there.
MAAANNN……Streater wants a damn job don’t he? Keep feeding that boy. Big time dissappointed with the drops by Ford, and a “Wide Open” Criner. WTF guys? But, I was thrilled to see DMAC in top form. I think overall I’m happy with most things but, it’s hard to wash out the SH*T taste of getting shut-out AT HOME….
August 14th, 2012 at 7:09 am
Pryor has the ability to buy himself an extra second or two evading sluggish DE’s by just sidestepping and gliding away and it’s not like he’s even breaking a sweat. His athletisism is off the charts. But once he makes a decision, he needs to follow thru with good mechanics. If he could only train his body to throw correctly with good mechanics, he’d be a stud. He’s got all day to throw.
August 14th, 2012 at 7:10 am
I have the fear that we will see Pryor starting games this season. Palmer gets injured? Leinart is fragile like an icicle.
August 14th, 2012 at 7:11 am
No love for Leinart? I thought he had a decent game. Would have been even better if Criner doesn’t drop that easy pass right in his mitts. Leinart cemented the #2 QB spot last night. I feel very comfortable with him in that role.
August 14th, 2012 at 7:12 am
I like Leinart. He is the real Matty Ice. But, he is injury prone.
August 14th, 2012 at 7:13 am
theghostronin79 Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 7:09 am
I’m pretty happy with what I saw outta 1st team D…. McCheese put a nice hat on Whitten…I loved how Wheeler came in and knocked the piss outta the RG and clogged the running lane. They flat shut the run DOWN. Plus Houston pressure with TK Sack. Burris got his nose in there.
MAAANNN……Streater wants a damn job don’t he? Keep feeding that boy. Big time dissappointed with the drops by Ford, and a “Wide Open” Criner. WTF guys? But, I was thrilled to see DMAC in top form. I think overall I’m happy with most things but, it’s hard to wash out the SH*T taste of getting shut-out AT HOME….
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Yeah man, it’d have been nice to convert those FG’s and not have those crucial drops by Ford. I’ll cut Criner and Pryor slack and hope they ball on Friday, but yeah man the D looks legit and was all over the place.
August 14th, 2012 at 7:13 am
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August 14th, 2012 at 7:15 am
My thoughts :
> McFadden can be great if healthy.
> I’m disapointed Palmer threw into coverage – and Ford didn’t go after the ball.
> Ford is a questionable WR and PR.
> Pryor looks like JJ from “Good Times”.
August 14th, 2012 at 7:17 am
Guest123 Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 7:05 am
Sure hope Streater isn’t treated like Hagan was last year. Great preseason, and then forgotten like yesterday’s newspaper.
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Hue’s not the coach anymore. No worries.
August 14th, 2012 at 7:17 am
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I was watching Burris as best I could, and he showed the same nose for the ball like he did in college. I’ll take 3 tackles from the rook in less than a full game.
August 14th, 2012 at 7:18 am
> Pryor looks like JJ from “Good Times”.
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nice observation! Yes he does at that. Especially with the skull cap on.
August 14th, 2012 at 7:20 am
be back in 15
August 14th, 2012 at 7:23 am
I see a better production on Friday evening! Things are starting to look up! Can’t wait!
August 14th, 2012 at 7:24 am
I didn’t see when Boller came in bt can you guys tell me how the F he threw for 87 yards?
August 14th, 2012 at 7:25 am
Guest123 Says:
Sure hope Streater isn’t treated like Hagan was last year.
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That won’t happen since we got rid of that idiot coach.
August 14th, 2012 at 7:30 am
I thought Lienart looked good too.
I thought Chekwa and Underwood flashed too.
Didn’t realize Burris was a short white dude. Thought Ricky Brown was back out there.
August 14th, 2012 at 7:30 am
I’d like to know how ESPN touts that Rob Ryan’s D held Oakland’s Offense to 253 yards but no mention of how we held them to only 202!
August 14th, 2012 at 7:32 am
I was watching Burris as best I could, and he showed the same nose for the ball like he did in college. I’ll take 3 tackles from the rook in less than a full game.
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One play that sticks out to me, I think it was a run left between T / G…Burris getting blocked out, the running back hit the hole. NORMALLY this play goes for 15+ yds. Burris immediately shoved his blocker into the ground and hit the Nitro button; ran the RB down, bear hugged him and grounded him for for a gain of 4. I didn’t see any other defenders within a 10 yd radius. That was a big run that was saved by a sole effort by Burris. Good job Rook.
August 14th, 2012 at 7:32 am
No surprises. It was just disappointing..
August 14th, 2012 at 7:33 am
Klas needs to make more money. Anyone have any tips on how I can make a couple hundred more dollars a month the legal way?
August 14th, 2012 at 7:34 am
262. You mean al?
August 14th, 2012 at 7:37 am
So if TIM Palmer goes down, should the Raids roll with Pryor’s legs and an occasional deep pass (forget about any consistent intermediate passing attack at this stage) – or do they watch the season go down the tubes anyway with Matty Lice ?
I’d go with TP, let him take his lumps, but find out if there’s any hope he can ever throw accurately enough to be a decent QB.
Frankly, based on what I saw last night, I don’t think TP can do it. I’m pretty sure he’ll be able to master competently getting a play called and the ball snapped. He should eventually be able to read a defense and go through his progressions. His mobility, and ability to extend a play will be off the charts. He will move the chains with his legs.
He’d be ALL-WORLD except for one little problem – his accuracy appears non-existent.
Might find it difficult to hit water if he fell out of a boat.
Of course, I hope I’m wrong, but the only way to find out is to play him.
There’s no great rush to find out, and I wouldn’t recommend rushing Pryor – but if TIM goes down, I’d play TP and know for sure by the end of 2012 whether we’ve got a QB for the future or a project at TE.
August 14th, 2012 at 7:37 am
theghostronin79 Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 7:32 am
I was watching Burris as best I could, and he showed the same nose for the ball like he did in college. I’ll take 3 tackles from the rook in less than a full game.
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One play that sticks out to me, I think it was a run left between T / G…Burris getting blocked out, the running back hit the hole. NORMALLY this play goes for 15+ yds. Burris immediately shoved his blocker into the ground and hit the Nitro button; ran the RB down, bear hugged him and grounded him for for a gain of 4. I didn’t see any other defenders within a 10 yd radius. That was a big run that was saved by a sole effort by Burris. Good job Rook.
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Yep, that was a sweet play for sure! He also fell back into coverage quicker than I thought he could, dude is going to compliment 55 and Wheeler nicely!
August 14th, 2012 at 7:37 am
I have a HUGE issue with Huff as the 1st team nickel.
DVD, Chekwa, or Pat Lee need to be playing that position. Those guys are better corners than Huff is.
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seriously?
Huff got a couple reps at CB last night. He didn’t get burned like I thought he would. He’s in a “real defense” now, remember?
Mixed bag from me on DVD & Chekwa. they are still young & improving. I’m not ready to make Lee or Underwood my nickel. jury still out
Now that Spencer is stepping up, I would like to see DVD lock down the nickel corner job “in a perfect world”
August 14th, 2012 at 7:40 am
Props to Bryant, Mitchell, Wheeler & McClain on Defense
Run Defense showed up!
Kelly & Houston with the pressure, too.
Bartell is still a bit rusty and the Romo/Bryant connection will be strong this year, so I’m not ready to say had a bad game
August 14th, 2012 at 7:42 am
Amazing how the run defense improves immediately after the highest paid defensive player in the league shows up on the inactive list …
oh yeah, props to rookies Bilukidi & Hamilton as well!
August 14th, 2012 at 7:43 am
Bartell is still a bit rusty and the Romo/Bryant connection will be strong this year, so I’m not ready to say had a bad game
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He only gave up one perfectly thrown pass.
August 14th, 2012 at 7:43 am
268. No, the drunk-on-irish-coffee loud mouthed stupid man. Everyone knows it was him that gave Hagan a raw deal.
August 14th, 2012 at 7:45 am
Huff got a couple reps at CB last night.
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So a few coaches and DCs think Huff can play NB/ CB, but Dell (aka finance guy with bad math skills) is still trying to argue his point. Don’t be a sore loser dude.
August 14th, 2012 at 7:46 am
Needless to say, I’m disappointed with the play of Ford & Barksdale.
Mixed bag on offense for the likes of all 3 QB’s plus Criner, Gordon (who was ill) and Veldheer. Same with Lonyae Miller
McFadden is a stud!!
Streater = 3rd WR ?
August 14th, 2012 at 7:46 am
That dallas o-line was bunk… kelly beat a guard pllaying center. And their Ts stink..
We need another back.. Miller is too slow at this weight… Unless he’s just exausted.
August 14th, 2012 at 7:48 am
Marks Hair Says:
That dallas o-line was bunk…
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Yeah, that’s why I wouldn’t be too quick to say our D line was awesome.
August 14th, 2012 at 7:48 am
We have 1 solid backup wr.. And a few backup dl.. And thats about it… Paper thin.
August 14th, 2012 at 7:48 am
Mixed bag on offense for the likes of all 3 QB’s plus Criner, Gordon (who was ill) and Veldheer
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Definitely a mixed bag for Veldheer, but on the other hand, when you can hold DeMarcus Ware to 1 sack, it’s probably an overall victory.
August 14th, 2012 at 7:48 am
Any chance Goodson or Jones is ready for Friday? I wouldn’t play DMAC until the final pre-season game, for one series.
August 14th, 2012 at 7:48 am
We need another back.. Miller is too slow at this weight… Unless he’s just exausted.
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@Marks Hair
Miller gave up a few carries to Rashawn Jackson, who didn’t do anything last night either (and has been a joke at camp & OTA’s)
August 14th, 2012 at 7:49 am
I think our Defense looked great! I really think we will do great stuff on defense…
Offense, though, was tough to watch..
August 14th, 2012 at 7:49 am
Our LB corp will get it done for the Nation this year!
August 14th, 2012 at 7:49 am
Im still pissed we didnt sign cedric Benson..
August 14th, 2012 at 7:50 am
Some of my takes from last nite’s game:
- DMAC is a BEAST!! (which we Raider fans already knew)
- Palmer can play, needs to make sound decisions (Ford didnt help him though by not going for the ball)
- D-line is ferocious just like last year
- LB corps seemed to flow to the ball better and looked to be in the right position
- Run D looked improved
- Streater is the REAL DEAL, give the man some 1st team time!!
- Goethel looks like he packed on some pounds… Must’ve been hitting the iron…
All in all, despite the uneventful score, there was a lot of postitive things to take from the game… I am still PUMPED about this team and where it is headed!…
August 14th, 2012 at 7:52 am
Oh yeah, Leinert is definitely a ’serviceable’ backup… Much of an upgrade over Boller!!
August 14th, 2012 at 7:52 am
As expected, overreaction to last night’s game is rampant, I disagree with a lot of what’s been said.
Offense:
- Play-calling was fine for the most part, but we saw a couple of calls that validate my Knapp concerns about his conservative approach.
1st quarter: a 3 yard short pass on 3rd and 10, this is the kind of call that will drive us crazy, seems to me that Knapp is very comfortable calling this type of play where the player has to earn the 1st down by breaking tckles and making moves instead of calling for more agressive down the field plays.
In the 4th quarter: with TP in, he calls a run up the middle on 3rd and 4 that was stuffed and settles for the FG try that Carmona missed , why?. Let TP try to convert that 3rd down and go for it on 4th down, what do we stand to gain by using Carmona? TP needs all the reps he can get and he should have had the ball in his hands in that situation.
- On the other hand, Knapp went shotgun and empty backfield a couple of times out there with the 1st team, that’s new for him and a welcome sight.
- Jacoby Ford will be fine, he had the CB beat on that deep route making evident that he’s hard to cover one on one and opponents will have to give CB’s Safety help over the top when Ford is in the game and that should open up the middle for somebody else on shorter routes.
Now Ford is credited with 2 drops but the first oneover the middle he clearly let the ball fell out of is hands when he saw the Safety had a great angle and was ready to put a highlight hit on him.
I’m not making excuses for him, just setting the record straight, now that’s unacceptable in regular season play, but week 1 of the pre-season you may want to stay healthy and avoid the effects of a possible concussion that can linger for an entire season.
His 2nd drop was exactly that, bounced off his hands, no excuse.
- 2nd and 3rd team OL were atrocious, can’t fairly evaluate TP and Lonyae Miller when they can’t block anybody.
- Speaking of Lonyae, he looked decent with the 1st team and his play went down as reserve OL entered the game, but I expected more, he looked like Justin Fargas out there, gaining what was there but rarely making anything happen on his own, at least he doesn’t go down at first contact but I need to see him a little more before making up my mind on him.
- TP, he was nervous, he knew people out there were anxious to see him and it showed, OL did not help him at all, I doubt any QB would have looked good out there.
Now some of his throws, if you can call them that, were downright horrible, I’m speaking specifically about 2 or 3 short passes at the feet of the receiver when the guys were fairly open, gotta work on that.
On the other hand he threw a nice pass on a 3rd and long for a 1st down right before the 2 minute mark and showed he can buy some time in the pocket and fake out would-be tacklers.
Overall a dissapointing outing by TP, but I’m far from discouraged, he is what he is right now, a 3rd string developmental project who won’t be active in gameday, he’ll be the emergency QB and continue to work on his footowork and mechanics, it was a wake up call for the kid too, I now he works hard but he needs to work harder on his passing game.
You can’t rule out a guy after playing a quarter and a half of football almost by himself out there without blocking.
- Barksdale looks lost out there, maybe he needs to be moved to Guard, that’s if he makes the team.
- Streater looked good and Gordon had a nice catch before leaving, those two could earn more time for sure.
August 14th, 2012 at 7:54 am
“Needless to say, I’m disappointed with the play of Ford & Barksdale.”
Good points RR
“All in all, despite the uneventful score, there was a lot of postitive things to take from the game… I am still PUMPED about this team and where it is headed!…”
I have to agree with Raider-In-PA here despite the score the effort was there and the run D looks improved and 37 penalty yards is better than expected in a first pre season game.
August 14th, 2012 at 7:56 am
Streater = 3rd WR ?
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He will be if he keeps that Sh*t up. He was quickly becoming the favorate target of Lice. Streat, Streat, to Criner….ooops, ok back to Streat, Streat….I have no doubts he’ll make the 53, but he’s gonna make a case to get in the rotation if he continues.
August 14th, 2012 at 7:56 am
In the 4th quarter: with TP in, he calls a run up the middle on 3rd and 4 that was stuffed and settles for the FG try that Carmona missed , why?. Let TP try to convert that 3rd down and go for it on 4th down, what do we stand to gain by using Carmona? TP needs all the reps he can get and he should have had the ball in his hands in that situation.
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Exactly. Well said Bob.
August 14th, 2012 at 7:56 am
TP, he was nervous, he knew people out there were anxious to see him and it showed, OL did not help him at all, I doubt any QB would have looked good out there.
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I agree.
August 14th, 2012 at 7:56 am
Bob Marley Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 7:52 am
- Barksdale looks lost out there, maybe he needs to be moved to Guard, that’s if he makes the team.
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Guard might be his only chance of making it in this league. At tackle, the guy’s a concussion lawsuit waiting to happen.
August 14th, 2012 at 7:58 am
Easy Pryor, You weren’t the reason we lost. WIN or LOSE I didn’t care the outcome, just wanted to see our first team score a TD but to no surprise we didn’t. Can’t blame it ALL on Ford, but they targeted him and he wasn’t ready all three times. STEP YOUR GAME UP.
August 14th, 2012 at 7:58 am
Great stuff, Bob Marley @ #289
August 14th, 2012 at 8:00 am
Jerry McDonald = “Bob Marley” ???
August 14th, 2012 at 8:00 am
Forget the concussion lawsuit, RaiderDuck, he’ll be suing for whiplash sustained from turning his neck 1000 times as the defensive end blows by him.
If a turnstile ever breaks at Six Flags, he could also fill in there.
Barksdale might have a good career as a matador ahead of him. OLE’!!!
August 14th, 2012 at 8:01 am
Only caught the first half of last night’s game. My thoughts
1) The D looked good. Can’t make much out of the 1st preseason game, but liked the energy a lot.
2) Loved DMAC, there is no question the kid can play, the question is can he stay healthy…
3) Carson Palmer INT Machine? damnn, only preseason but its a trend Carson has yet to curve…
The O should get better, the D already looks better than last season.
August 14th, 2012 at 8:02 am
coffee time!!
August 14th, 2012 at 8:02 am
Marks hair Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 7:46 am
That dallas o-line was bunk… kelly beat a guard pllaying center. And their Ts stink..
We need another back.. Miller is too slow at this weight… Unless he’s just exausted.
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Yep. Before we go crazy thinking the problem of stopping the run has been solved and that our pass rush is all-world, let’s take a moment to consider who we were playing.
And you’re probably right about needing another back. More precisely, a pounder, or someone that runs with power. I love Taiwan and think once he gets healthy he’s going to be special. Goodson can probably motor too. But they’re lightweight speed guys.
Unless you’re content giving Schmitt some carries for little or no gain, there would appear to be a need for a big back that might actually gain a few yards.
Come to think of it, Reese could probably fill that role nicely.
There you go. Problem solved.
August 14th, 2012 at 8:04 am
Tp couldnt read the D or quickly set up the o.. accuracy was poor.. Grade F
He’s still a yr or 2 out from even being a backup
August 14th, 2012 at 8:06 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 8:00 am
Jerry McDonald = “Bob Marley” ???
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Bob has some skills. I enjoy reading his posts.
August 14th, 2012 at 8:08 am
Overall a dissapointing outing by TP, but I’m far from discouraged, he is what he is right now, a 3rd string developmental project who won’t be active in gameday, he’ll be the emergency QB and continue to work on his footowork and mechanics, it was a wake up call for the kid too, I now he works hard but he needs to work harder on his passing game.
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Now that we have established Pryor as a non-active healthy scratch and emergency QB, how long do we go into the season carrying him in that role?
August 14th, 2012 at 8:12 am
Reece had 2 nice blocks for dmac. That was good to see
August 14th, 2012 at 8:13 am
Raiders on ESPN last night, and today all access Buckeyes.
I’m in heaven.
August 14th, 2012 at 8:14 am
- Jacoby Ford will be fine, he had the CB beat on that deep route making evident that he’s hard to cover one on one and opponents will have to give CB’s Safety help over the top when Ford is in the game and that should open up the middle for somebody else on shorter routes.
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Completely disagree about Ford having the corner beat. The way I it, the CB was stride for stride with outside position. Safety had inside and over the top covered. Ford was blanketed and TIM should never have thrown that ball, regardless of what DA says.
Some excellent points about Knapp though. Particularly the 3rd and long play which ended with Lice’s weak checkdown (I think that’s what you’re referring to). That was horsecrap.
August 14th, 2012 at 8:15 am
304. All yr id guess..
August 14th, 2012 at 8:16 am
ESPN spent more time segweying last nights game into implications of Dallas on the NY Giants. More mention of the Giants than the Raiders who were an afterthought in the post game analysis.
The only Raider thought they have is some sort of declaration that DMAC staying healthy. Nice analysis!
August 14th, 2012 at 8:16 am
@G123
comments 152, 180, 234, 249 & 304
quit pissing in the Kool-Aid !!
August 14th, 2012 at 8:16 am
In the 4th quarter: with TP in, he calls a run up the middle on 3rd and 4 that was stuffed and settles for the FG try that Carmona missed , why?. Let TP try to convert that 3rd down and go for it on 4th down, what do we stand to gain by using Carmona? TP needs all the reps he can get and he should have had the ball in his hands in that situation.
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Exactly. Well said Bob.
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Yeah, that was a bad call right there.
August 14th, 2012 at 8:16 am
Thoughts on last nights game…. Not much… And nothing to get too excited or down about …..
Gonna see what the tends are first…….and that will take more than the first preseason game with Subs playing and starters held out ….same with play calling… Nothing to hang a hat on yet..
August 14th, 2012 at 8:17 am
307 I agree. Dumb pass.. The only opening would have been a back shoulder throw..
August 14th, 2012 at 8:19 am
Particularly the 3rd and long play which ended with Lice’s weak checkdown (I think that’s what you’re referring to). That was horsecrap.
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How is it the OCs fault if the QB decides to check it down?
I’d bet dollars to doughnuts that guy was not the first or 2nd read.
That’s the exact same thing Glo used to do and got hammered for. That play was on Lienart, not Knapp.
August 14th, 2012 at 8:19 am
The only meaningful things I saw during last night’s game:
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Streater can play. Better instincts than anyone at the position and can take a hit. Good possession guy. Not sure about deep ability but we need someone to get open on 3rd and 8 and catch the da*n ball.
Improved discipline regarding penalties.
DMAC will define our offense as much as the QB. Exceptional talent.
No injuries
Caution:
Front seven played well against a weak Oline which is our MO. Concern about whether Seymour has much left in the tank. Poor value relative to his salary. Kelly looks great against a FOURTH string center. Still have concerns.
DMAC’s health. Know idea about depth.
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Chekwa and Van Dyke look very weak. Chekwa on the special team blunder may have cost himself a spot. Inexcusable.
Pryor is a major project. We all knew that but it is clear he was not worth a third rounder given our needs on the dline.
August 14th, 2012 at 8:21 am
-DMAC and Streater had a great game.
-I was impressed with #53 rushing the passer, and I think he can be our speedy pass rusher if he continues to improve and play well.
-Ford and TP didn’t play well. Ford dropped 2 passes, and TP’s issues with accuracy need a lot more work. Play calling didn’t help the issue.
-I thought our CBs are the weakest link on that defense, and I was right.
August 14th, 2012 at 8:22 am
Completely disagree about Ford having the corner beat. The way I it, the CB was stride for stride with outside position. Safety had inside and over the top covered. Ford was blanketed and TIM should never have thrown that ball, regardless of what DA says.
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Agreed, to an extent. The S was there the whole time. Lined up on Ford’s side of the ball. Palmer has to do a better job of looking the S off, or, eh hmmm, checking it down, lol.
August 14th, 2012 at 8:22 am
I was begging for a drop of kool-aid last nite.. Bone dry.. So glad we play friday..
August 14th, 2012 at 8:22 am
I want to hear Jacoby Ford come out and say …
“I just played like dog crap, and I’m mad,” “I’m mad at myself. It’s my fault we lost; I’m mad about that, too.”
“I don’t think I played well,” Ford said. “I thought Darrius (Heyward-Bey) played great, I thought Rod (Streater) played great, I thought everybody else on the team played great. I just think I played like dog crap. So I’m mad about that, about how I played today. So I’m angry and I’m going to come back stronger (Friday).”
August 14th, 2012 at 8:23 am
Why kick a FG with a backup K who will not make the roster? Go for it! It’s preseason!
August 14th, 2012 at 8:25 am
“You are the Buckeyes, you are a hungry football team.. You are an angry football team…play that way”
-Urban Meyer.
Go Buckeyes!
August 14th, 2012 at 8:26 am
-I thought our CBs are the weakest link on that defense, and I was right.
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No, you weren’t!
August 14th, 2012 at 8:26 am
I was impressed with #53 rushing the passer, and I think he can be our speedy pass rusher if he continues to improve and play well
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Carl Ihenacho, yes
Chad Kilgore & Travis Goethel looked ok, too
Jamie Cumbie & Hall Davis made a few plays on the D-Line
Did anybody notice Burnett or Stupar in the game??
how about Wayne Dorsey or Mason Brodine??
August 14th, 2012 at 8:27 am
Shouldn’t be too hard for opposing defenses to scheme against Greg Knapp.
Just get out the film of the Houston offense.
Criner’s drop ? Came on a play lifted right out of the Kubiak/Texan playbook.
Play was wide open though.
One play by Knapp that I did like was the 18 yard gain by DMAC that came after the quick hit in the right slot with the OLine firing out and taking care of the backside pursuit while DMAC took it inside. Nice block by, I think it was Barnes. Well designed and executed.
August 14th, 2012 at 8:27 am
Sadly murphy & cambell looked good..
August 14th, 2012 at 8:28 am
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
- Jacoby Ford will be fine, he had the CB beat on that deep route making evident that he’s hard to cover one on one and opponents will have to give CB’s Safety help over the top when Ford is in the game and that should open up the middle for somebody else on shorter routes.
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Completely disagree about Ford having the corner beat. The way I it, the CB was stride for stride with outside position. Safety had inside and over the top covered. Ford was blanketed and TIM should never have thrown that ball, regardless of what DA says.
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99.
So, it was double coverage on Ford, right?.
If Dallas has their CB playing outside on Ford and the Safety inside and over the top, it means they didn’t trust their CB to “blanket” Ford by himself, right?.
Which is the point I’m making, had the Safety not been there and the throw been on the mark it’s big play for us.
Just watched the replay of the pick on NFL.COM, the CB was running with Ford as you pointed out and the Safety read Palmer’s eyes the whole play, CP should have pump faked a shorter pass to slow down the Safety because if he doesn’t get there and the pass was well thrown Ford gets that ball because the CB was only playing outside, as you pointed out.
August 14th, 2012 at 8:29 am
did Barnes become our best O-Liner with the additions of Allen, Knapp & Pollack ??
worst to first, baby!
August 14th, 2012 at 8:30 am
Guest123 Says:
More mention of the Giants than the Raiders who were an afterthought in the post game analysis.
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That’s what a decade of mediocrity does to a team.
August 14th, 2012 at 8:31 am
The biggest concern had to be how the defense would play this year.
How could anyone consider last night performance a downer?
Because the 2nd team offense wasn’t clicking?
Because a 5th string kicker missed a layup?
Cmon!
August 14th, 2012 at 8:32 am
J Hill Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 8:22 am
Completely disagree about Ford having the corner beat. The way I it, the CB was stride for stride with outside position. Safety had inside and over the top covered. Ford was blanketed and TIM should never have thrown that ball, regardless of what DA says.
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Agreed, to an extent. The S was there the whole time. Lined up on Ford’s side of the ball. Palmer has to do a better job of looking the S off, or, eh hmmm, checking it down, lol.
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Exactly. Palmer needs to fix his INT issue. We can’t afford for him to throw 1.6 INTs/ game ( based on his 16 INTs in 10 games). Ford is 5′9!
August 14th, 2012 at 8:33 am
J Hill Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 8:31 am
The biggest concern had to be how the defense would play this year.
How could anyone consider last night performance a downer?
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The defense played well, but you have to admit, the CBs were awful.
August 14th, 2012 at 8:33 am
I was begging for a drop of kool-aid last nite.. Bone dry.. So glad we play friday..
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Thirsty man…..real thirsty……Too bad I can’t watch the AZ game till LATE Saturday night. (BIG SIGH…..)
August 14th, 2012 at 8:34 am
Particularly the 3rd and long play which ended with Lice’s weak checkdown (I think that’s what you’re referring to). That was horsecrap.
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How is it the OCs fault if the QB decides to check it down?
I’d bet dollars to doughnuts that guy was not the first or 2nd read.
That’s the exact same thing Glo used to do and got hammered for. That play was on Lienart, not Knapp.
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You’re right. Lice sucks.
I’d like to see the game film on that play. What were Lice’s first options ? Was anyone open ? Would a QB with something more than a pop-gun have been able to get the ball into a rcvrs hands past the chains ?
Can’t stand two yard passes or 2 yard routes being run on 3rd and 8. That’s horsecrap.
August 14th, 2012 at 8:35 am
Not impressed with criners first action after all the hype from some of his blog fans. But streater looked ready. Id let him compete for fords job. Fords short & injury prone. He’s our best return man. And his hands are spotty..
August 14th, 2012 at 8:36 am
O,
I would think if the CB play was awful, or even just bad, then the Cowgirls would have had more than 3 pts.
Bartell got beat once on a nice back shoulder catch from Dez Bryant.
DVD and Chekwa got beat on a coupleof 8 yd outs by a 6′4 WR with a 7 foot wingspan.
Those guys are getting paid too, O.
August 14th, 2012 at 8:36 am
The defense played well, but you have to admit, the CBs were awful.
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Yep, plug one hole, and another one springs up. But in years past, we’d get torched through the air, PLUS get run the FU*K over in embarassing fashion. I was real happy to see the 1st team D take control of the line and surrender less than 10 yds on the ground, plus the good penetration….Not to mention Wheeler making his presence felt, and McCheese letting Witten know what’s up. Good energy and speed in the beginning.
August 14th, 2012 at 8:37 am
333. Blame that on Knapp, not Leinart. He made the throws that needed to be made. Sometimes the checkdowns are the best choices. Not all gunslinging is good. See Palmer’s throw to Ford in the first quarter.
August 14th, 2012 at 8:37 am
like how we kept the “AL” memorial on the back of the helmets
August 14th, 2012 at 8:38 am
We should have drafted C Johnson.
August 14th, 2012 at 8:38 am
Too many ‘business decisions’ being made last night.
August 14th, 2012 at 8:39 am
ODB!
What’s up my Green Party Brother? I hope all is well with you and yours.
August 14th, 2012 at 8:39 am
Blame that on Knapp, not Leinart. He made the throws that needed to be made. Sometimes the checkdowns are the best choices. Not all gunslinging is good. See Palmer’s throw to Ford in the first quarter.
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Agreed, but why are we even talking about “blame”???
Maybe, to your point, the checkdown was the only open target.
Maybe it was just good D.
August 14th, 2012 at 8:39 am
Not impressed with criners first action after all the hype from some of his blog fans. But streater looked ready. Id let him compete for fords job. Fords short & injury prone. He’s our best return man. And his hands are spotty..
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Huge letdown with Criner. I’ve been hailing this kid as the 2nd coming. I kinda felt like a big Jacka$$ last night. BUT….I’m pleasantly surprised with Streater. I expected him to have a couple catches, but he quickly found himself as the primary target of Lice. He took a couple hard shots and held on to the ball too. Needless to say, Ford got several “Head shakes and sighs” from me last night. I been supporting that guy as well.
August 14th, 2012 at 8:40 am
329. I wasnt that impressed by the d.. They looked good. But dallas looked bad. They had a gd playing center. And their Ts stink.. Its why they missed the playoffs.. Our dbs werent great.. I thought dallas’s O was bad, and our D looked ok..
August 14th, 2012 at 8:40 am
O my GreenParty V.P.
all is good here … just trying to recoup from a bit of a hangover !! lol lol lol
and how the hell are you doing my brother ??
August 14th, 2012 at 8:41 am
why are you guys crying about cb play? What did you expect, they let go of their best cb routt and replaced him with slowtae spencer and an injured bartell…
August 14th, 2012 at 8:41 am
Man I can’t believe no one is talking about the big hit McClain put on Dallas’s TE coming out the backfield. No fan favorite, but lets be honest it was a big hit!
Our first defense looked hungry out there for the short time they had. I was happy to see some intensity out of the front D-line. Not to mention the overrated SEYMOUR!!!!! Was on the sideline looking reflective as usual!!! Not worth the money yet!
August 14th, 2012 at 8:42 am
DAV back from the dead..
August 14th, 2012 at 8:43 am
My Kool-aid came from they play of DMAC, Streater and the LB corp(55 52 56) showed up ready to take heads off.
August 14th, 2012 at 8:43 am
J Hill Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 8:36 am
O,
I would think if the CB play was awful, or even just bad, then the Cowgirls would have had more than 3 pts.
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I don’t think so bro. WRs dont block and throw passes. Their OL needs to block and the QB needs to throw the ball well. It was a combination of things that didn’t allow them to score more than 3 pts, but our CBs playing well wasn’t not on of them.
August 14th, 2012 at 8:43 am
Criner is a rookie! Who was almost not even drafted. He will be fine, he dropped a pass in preseason. Our veteran and go to WR Ford dropped two, and jogged back on an INT. I thought he was actually hurt, he should be ashamed of that play the most this morning.
August 14th, 2012 at 8:44 am
that pass by Pryor with 30 seconds left on the clock was overthrown … 4th & 26
sea of Dallas defenders, TP had time to throw.
would have liked to see a better play call there, maybe more creative. Who was the WR trying the catch the ball in front of 5 or 6 cowpukes?
August 14th, 2012 at 8:44 am
They kept talking about Dallas’s “window” and how it was closing. But I like Gruden’s response to that. “What window? They have been a .500 team for 8 years”. Spot on Chucky. So Dallas fans have hope for a “window” with their 3 great players, Romo, Witten, and Ware, but the Raiders don’t even get a crawl space to talk about with DMC, CP3, Moore? Over and over, they kept that talking point about a Dallas window.
lol
August 14th, 2012 at 8:45 am
Good test for TIM, Lice and TP this Friday.
Arizona and Kevin Knob got worked a little last week, but their secondary has some ball hawks and hellacious bangers.
Curious to see how much Knapp is going to throw it and especially how TIM fares.
August 14th, 2012 at 8:45 am
I like the strategic changes to the D.. As expected we’re gonna let the O make the mistakes.
August 14th, 2012 at 8:45 am
The Leinart play on 3rd and 11 where he hit Criner short looked like a designed play to me, Criner was open but was quickly brought down, that’s what I’m referring to, Knapp seems to prefer to prefer throwing a short pass and let the player make the 1st down, it doesn’t work often but it looks good on the stats, high completion percentage for the Offense but a ton of failed 3rd down conversions.
August 14th, 2012 at 8:45 am
Lets judge our DBs when our front line starts to blitz the QB! More pressure could make our DBs look good. Well that’s my story and I am sticking with it. : )
August 14th, 2012 at 8:46 am
Pryor reminds me of Eric Dickerson.
I have never seen so many guys faked out of their jock straps.
August 14th, 2012 at 8:46 am
Man I can’t believe no one is talking about the big hit McClain put on Dallas’s TE coming out the backfield. No fan favorite, but lets be honest it was a big hit!
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Jerry Jones swallowed that bubble gum he was gnashing on. Looked like he had a pepcid moment when he watched his boy Witten get blown up like that!
August 14th, 2012 at 8:46 am
Call me crazy, but I thought Rolando played better than any other starter yesterday not named Darren McFadden.
That Dallas RB was lucky he didn’t catch the screen pass, because he was about to get pulverized, or as I call it Slo-verized.
August 14th, 2012 at 8:47 am
ODB,
Man… I have some bad news. I have to stop burning trees for a while. I need to pass drug tests.
Can I still be a member of the best Party on Earth aka The Green Party?
August 14th, 2012 at 8:47 am
Goodson thinks he’ll play on Friday, if his tweets are accurate..good news!
August 14th, 2012 at 8:48 am
TP had time to throw.
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Yes, even with horrid blocking, it seemed like a walk in the park for him. He needs to capitalize on the extra time his legs buy him. If he can work out the mechanics he’d be deadly. I’m only concerned that it’s too late to learn now.
August 14th, 2012 at 8:48 am
Pryor was playing against guys who will be out of the league soon.
If he plays like he did against the 1’s of a defense, he would have been sacked 6 times and went like 2 of 13.
August 14th, 2012 at 8:48 am
Well good on Pryor for showing accountability. Mark of a leader. If this kid doesn’t make it, it won’t be because of his mental makeup. Solid.
August 14th, 2012 at 8:48 am
JFB
That was big ole Witten who got slobber-knocked by 55!
August 14th, 2012 at 8:48 am
351. He wasnt getting open either..
August 14th, 2012 at 8:49 am
The sky is falling! The sky is falling!!!!
Couldn’t wait to get in here and read all the Chicken Little blurbs.
1 preseason game and the Chicken Little’s are in mid season form. LOL!
August 14th, 2012 at 8:49 am
Two worst performances yesterday in my eyes:
Ford and Barksdale, with Goethel not too far behind.
Barksdale should be cut, he can’t play.
August 14th, 2012 at 8:50 am
That Dallas RB was lucky he didn’t catch the screen pass, because he was about to get pulverized, or as I call it Slo-verized.
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How about Ro-verized?
August 14th, 2012 at 8:50 am
Yesterday was all about nerves & business decisions.
No big deal. The Arizona game will be more telling.
August 14th, 2012 at 8:50 am
362. Thank god.. We need to know whats up at rb..
Im already thinking we need a T.
August 14th, 2012 at 8:51 am
I hear Kolb is gonna start even though Skeleten is supposed to win the job.
August 14th, 2012 at 8:53 am
The Leinart play on 3rd and 11 where he hit Criner short looked like a designed play to me, Criner was open but was quickly brought down, that’s what I’m referring to, Knapp seems to prefer to prefer throwing a short pass and let the player make the 1st down,
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Would you prefer the forced throw into double coverage a la TIM?
Ok, 99, WTF does “TIM” stand for, lol?
August 14th, 2012 at 8:53 am
I’ll take a solid defensive performance over a pre-season win any day! Dallas on the other hand, has some real issues to sort out.
August 14th, 2012 at 8:53 am
Jerry Jones swallowed that bubble gum he was gnashing on. Looked like he had a pepcid moment when he watched his boy Witten get blown up like that!
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I loved that one man…… Corn Fed Witten usually gets dragged to the ground after breaking a tackle and carrying a DB on his leg…..
It was nice to see him get BUSTED one right in the chops and send him backward on his ARSE…
YEEEUUHH…EAT THAT SH*T BOOYYEE! ! !
August 14th, 2012 at 8:54 am
I didnt think it was all nerves.. I think we genuinely stink at backup T.
August 14th, 2012 at 8:55 am
Criner’s dropped pass on that bootleg type play is inexcusable.
He looked slow as hell yesterday as well.
Streater is the much better option, right now and moving forward.
August 14th, 2012 at 8:55 am
Slo make any tackles besides the Hitten-Witten ?
August 14th, 2012 at 8:56 am
Streater is the much better option, right now and moving forward.
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overreact much?
August 14th, 2012 at 8:57 am
Slo make any tackles besides the Hitten-Witten ?
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Gonna Re-watch tonight, but I know he was in the ruckous alot.
August 14th, 2012 at 8:57 am
Pryor was playing against guys who will be out of the league soon.
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He was also playing WITH guys who will be outta he league soon.
Orton didn’t look any better than Pryor.
August 14th, 2012 at 8:57 am
As far as the Defense goes:
- I’d wait on evaluating anything, Dallas interior OL was a sieve and you can’t get much from such a short performance, run D looked good but we’ve seen them stuff the run for long periods of time only to eventually break down and start giving up 5 yards a pop, need to see much more and vs better competition.
- Now on Dallas first drive, Huff got away with a blatant hold when he was covering the slot, regular Refs would have flagged him, then Dallas commits a penalty and drops a screen pass that looked to be going nowhere as the Defense was ready.
- Then our first bltz was picked up perfectly by Dallas, the one play where OL looked good, so Romo hits Dez Bryant for a 20 yard play, Bartell was running with him but there’s no way to defend the back shoulder throw when the QB has time, that play they would have made on any Defense when the blitz fail.
- DVD and Chekwa both looked shaky, Chimdi seemed to get better as the game went on but not DVD.
August 14th, 2012 at 8:57 am
Guest123 Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 8:56 am
Streater is the much better option, right now and moving forward.
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overreact much?
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Lol
August 14th, 2012 at 8:58 am
He was also playing WITH guys who will be outta he league soon.
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J Hill keepin it real
August 14th, 2012 at 8:58 am
theghostronin79 Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 8:53 am
Jerry Jones swallowed that bubble gum he was gnashing on. Looked like he had a pepcid moment when he watched his boy Witten get blown up like that!
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I loved that one man…… Corn Fed Witten usually gets dragged to the ground after breaking a tackle and carrying a DB on his leg…..
It was nice to see him get BUSTED one right in the chops and send him backward on his ARSE…
YEEEUUHH…EAT THAT SH*T BOOYYEE! ! !
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Lots of people said he could only hit Sproles like that, but nope he cleaned Witten’s clock just the same. Jerry Jones probably shat his diaper when Romo got crushed too!
August 14th, 2012 at 8:59 am
Pryor is a project all right, a Ronald Curry type project. Anybody who watched this kid up close could see this coming. He’ll be at a different position this time next year mark my word.
August 14th, 2012 at 8:59 am
new post
August 14th, 2012 at 8:59 am
The only team who couldnt score. I know we had 2 easy fgs. But still I looked at the standing and there we are. In last place again with no points.. Beeeeeeww…
August 14th, 2012 at 9:02 am
Ok, 99, WTF does “TIM” stand for, lol?
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TIM stands for The Interception Machine.
AKA: Captain Pick, Carson Pick.
Until Palmer quits throwing half-assed picks, that’s his new name.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:02 am
Not seeing any complaints of the officiating. Thought they actually called some obvious holds on the Dallas O that typically go uncalled against our boys.
Wasn’t sure about the touchback call as they didn’t show a replay for whatever reason.
Overall, thought they did fine.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:05 am
188.Klas Tjorborn Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 6:38 am
TxRaider210 Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 6:37 am
Klas, Pryor gonna rock it like a Swede on Friday, man on a mission!
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I hope so! He looked more like a Finish fish monger last night.
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You don’t like Norwegian fish mongers either. Not much love for your fellow Scandinavians.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:07 am
Raider O Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 8:47 am
ODB,
Man… I have some bad news. I have to stop burning trees for a while. I need to pass drug tests.
Can I still be a member of the best Party on Earth aka The Green Party?
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thats not bad news thats TERRIBLE news !!!!!
but he11 yeah …. you sir are not only a member for life, you are the V.P. !!!!
August 14th, 2012 at 9:10 am
368.DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 8:49 am
The sky is falling! The sky is falling!!!!
Couldn’t wait to get in here and read all the Chicken Little blurbs.
1 preseason game and the Chicken Little’s are in mid season form. LOL!
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Hey Don. There should be a happy medium between the “sky is falling” guys and the ones who say “we’ll be fine..relax” guys who say that all yr. until we are 8-8 an out of the playoff contention.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:30 am
The MAIN difference between someone like Jamarcus and Terrelle is..
After a PISS POOR performance Jamarcus says, “Well I think IIIIIII played well.”
After a bad performance Terrelle says, “IIIIII played horrible, IIIII lost us the game, IIIII need to improve.”
I’m not giving up on this kid. He has 100000x the desire to succeed than JaFatass ever had. If it takes 3 years to develop so be it, but just dont get rid of him to get rid of him. I want to see him at the end of the year and reevaluate if he’s worthy of the roster spot.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:08 am
Someone please tell me why Chekwa let the ball touch the goal line without downing it. My high school team
special team gunners were better than him. A lot of the Raiders problems stem from lack of player intelligence.
I see last night’s game as an extension of the second half of the 2011 season. A lot of sheer stupidity and under performance. I refuse to adopt the argument that it was the first pre-season game and all the mistakes and miscues are to be expected.
I watched the 49′ers game last weekend and they resembled a well oiled machine. As a matter of fact, even Rock Cartright ripped off a 19 yd run.
Of course we received the obligatory bone headed INT from CP; as I predicted his performance will change little from last year (sorry worshippers).
We are already in lack of running back problems. It was good to see we’ve cut our penalties down, and it seems our defense has improved. It will be good to see Bartelle and Spencer on the field, however.
Our WR corp seems okay except dropped balls are a concern. Just as I predicted, when faced with real competition and just not force fed the ball, DHB, faded away last night.
It looks to be a long season.
August 14th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
“Obviously, there’s a few things that we’ve got to get corrected.”
I hope this phrase it DA’s signature line
August 14th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
Hahahaha!
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Klas Tjorborn Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 6:38 am
TxRaider210 Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 6:37 am
Klas, Pryor gonna rock it like a Swede on Friday, man on a mission!
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I hope so! He looked more like a Finish fish monger last night.
August 14th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
DA defended TIM after the pick he threw but any fckn rookie should know not to get totally and complete schooled by the safety like that.
Hey Carson, do yourself a favor. Scan the field once in a while, look for your check downs, don’t lock in on the first guy. If it ain’t there throw it away – don’t try to be a hero.
If the Raiders gave up a 1st rounder for this sh*t they got hosed.
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RAIDERMAN99 Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 9:02 am
Ok, 99, WTF does “TIM” stand for, lol?
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TIM stands for The Interception Machine.
AKA: Captain Pick, Carson Pick.
Until Palmer quits throwing half-assed picks, that’s his new name.
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August 14th, 2012 at 10:04 pm
Is Allen blaming TPryor for the loss or is it that Crybaby Palmer and his back up couldn’t score period! Nothing new here again except dropped balls and mistakes by both QBs. I understand about Pryor and yes he needs the guidance from Gannon but the supposed pros at QB, let them go in order to help our beloved team! It not the real thing!
August 16th, 2012 at 7:40 pm
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