Report: Benson said Raiders tried to sign him
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Tuesday, August 14th, 2012 at 8:55 am in Oakland Raiders.
Veteran running back Cedric Benson told FoxSportsWisconsin.com he signed with the Green Bay Packers for a chance to win the Super Bowl and that the Raiders and Detroit Lions had also made offers.
“Both teams needed backs,’’ Benson said.
The Raiders’ interest, never confirmed by team officials, had been speculated for months and made sense of late given injuries to running backs Taiwan Jones (hamstring) and Mike Goodson (neck).
With Jones and and Goodson inactive in the preseason opener against Dallas, Lonyae Miller replaced starter Darren McFadden after three plays and gained 39 yards on 15 carries with a long run of seven yards.
Rashawn Jackson, listed as a fullback, came on late and carried three times for eight yards.
The early stages of the new regime with Reggie McKenzie as general manager and Dennis Allen have seemed to indicate a preference for developing young talent rather than veteran players with high miles.
Benson, 29, has gained more than 1,000 yards in each of the last three seasons for the Cincinnati Bengals but in the last two years has averaged under 4 yards per carry, gaining 3.9 yards per attempt last season and 3.5 in 2010.
With James Starks sidelined indefinitely with turf toe, Benson could evolve as Green Bay’s primary back.
That was unlikely to happen in Oakland, where McFadden looked healthy and explosive in the preseason opener with two rushes for 20 yards and gaining 18 yards on a screen pass on the first three plays from scrimmage.
Jones is listed as day-to-day with his hamstring strain and Goodson, who taken to the hospital last week with a neck injury, has no structural damage and is expected to return before the end of preseason.
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August 14th, 2012 at 8:57 am
Glad we didn’t!
August 14th, 2012 at 9:00 am
overreact much?
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Streater was ahead of him on the depth chart and in playing time, so no, I am just agreeing with the coaching staff.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:02 am
injuries to running backs Taiwan Jones (hamstring) and Mike Goodson (neck).
Lonyae Miller gained 39 yards on 15 carries
Rashawn Jackson carried three times for eight yards.
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GMoney says “Glad we didn’t!”
Really?
read above the ***
August 14th, 2012 at 9:02 am
Bob Marley Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 8:57 am
As far as the Defense goes:
- I’d wait on evaluating anything, Dallas interior OL was a sieve and you can’t get much from such a short performance, run D looked good but we’ve seen them stuff the run for long periods of time only to eventually break down and start giving up 5 yards a pop, need to see much more and vs better competition.
- Now on Dallas first drive, Huff got away with a blatant hold when he was covering the slot, regular Refs would have flagged him, then Dallas commits a penalty and drops a screen pass that looked to be going nowhere as the Defense was ready.
- Then our first bltz was picked up perfectly by Dallas, the one play where OL looked good, so Romo hits Dez Bryant for a 20 yard play, Bartell was running with him but there’s no way to defend the back shoulder throw when the QB has time, that play they would have made on any Defense when the blitz fail.
- DVD and Chekwa both looked shaky, Chimdi seemed to get better as the game went on but not DVD.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:03 am
New reg was smart
August 14th, 2012 at 9:03 am
I’m glad Streater had a nice game. I expect good things from him. But when the regular season begins, I still don’t expect him to match the performance that Criner will eventually put up. And I don’t see Streater leapfrogging Criner anytime soon.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:04 am
6. Streaters been ahead of criner for awhile..
August 14th, 2012 at 9:04 am
Never wanted Cedric, Goodson should play Friday and I’d bet Taiwan the following game.imo
August 14th, 2012 at 9:04 am
Then again, DVD looked bad in the 1st pre-season game last year and then went on to be our best CB in burn percentage rate on the few games he started.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:05 am
Not seeing any complaints of the officiating. Thought they actually called some obvious holds on the Dallas O that typically go uncalled against our boys.
Wasn’t sure about the touchback call as they didn’t show a replay for whatever reason.
Overall, thought they did fine.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:05 am
read above the ***
@RRS,
I fully endorse the signing of Ryan Grant!
August 14th, 2012 at 9:05 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 6:59 am
The Raiders committed only five penalties for 37 yards, while the Cowboys were flagged 12 times for 91 yards.
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JFB was right.
with Al Davis & Hue Jackson no longer in the picture and Reggie & Dennis replacing them made all the difference!
penalties cut in half from last season
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Yeah, so?? In case you didn’t notice, we got shut out last night.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:05 am
Streaters trying to leapfrog ford not criner.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:06 am
Streaters been ahead of criner for awhile..
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link? source?
August 14th, 2012 at 9:07 am
- Now on Dallas first drive, Huff got away with a blatant hold when he was covering the slot, regular Refs would have flagged him
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THANK YOU!!!
Keep Huff at S and let DVD, Chekwa, or Lee play NB.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:08 am
R8ER MIKE Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 9:07 am
Raider O Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 8:47 am
ODB,
Man… I have some bad news. I have to stop burning trees for a while. I need to pass drug tests.
Can I still be a member of the best Party on Earth aka The Green Party?
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thats not bad news thats TERRIBLE news !!!!!
but he11 yeah …. you sir are not only a member for life, you are the V.P. !!!!
August 14th, 2012 at 9:08 am
Ford needs to get his act in gear. He had a horrible game. He can’t afford to play like this and keep his spot in the rotation.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:08 am
Romo had to show the refs where the ball is placed after a kick… They need work.lol
August 14th, 2012 at 9:09 am
And again, our first punt return of the season, Jacoby let’s it bounch at the 13 yard line, and watches it roll to the 3.
This is becoming an epidemic for our return team.
Go up and fair-catch the f’n ball!!!!!!!!
August 14th, 2012 at 9:10 am
Like what I saw from the D last night. It’s clear that we’re much better on that side of the ball. But I think the passing game may be doomed. I don’t like our receivers at all. I love D.Moore and DHB, but not as #1s. We’ve got major issues there. Darren, please don’t get hurt this year.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:10 am
Also, Palmer, McFadden, DHB, Ford and the starting OL barely played, Goodson and Moore didn’t play at all, one would think we’ll see better results with those guys playing at least a full half.
Shotgun and empty backfield on the 2nd play from scrimagge was nice to see, it was the screen to McFadden, Ford blocked Dallas best LB Sean Lee, nice.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:12 am
I was pretty pissed off that Chimdi had the chance to down the ball at the 5 pretty easily and he lets the thing roll to the goal line. That’s 15+ yards given up for free. Can’t have those type of “mental” errors. I can live with physical errors where you just get beat straight up, but the mental errors are the sign of an unprepared and disinterested player.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:12 am
Barnes cleared the way on that pass to Darren as well.
That was a nice looking play, glad that Knapp could learn from the Tom Cable offense.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:12 am
There’s a new trend in Oakland, it’s called not signing any of those breakables and no over-paying veterans. We’re not the A’s but we’re playing moneyball this season fellas, hang in there.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:13 am
14. There was a couple.. I dont have them anymore. But DA has said streater earned time with the ones way back in the minis..
August 14th, 2012 at 9:13 am
I fully endorse the signing of Ryan Grant!
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@G123
Lonyae Miller > Ryan Grant
August 14th, 2012 at 9:13 am
I thought the funniest play was the very first offensive play. Dallas LB’s run right into each other just before the snap!
Nothing funny about Ford.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:13 am
I’d like to think the injuries to Moore and T Jones are very minor, which is why Reg hasn’t brought in FA’s yet, but he may when cuts happen..
August 14th, 2012 at 9:13 am
Carl Ihenacho = Joe Mays.
He’s playing his way onto the roster.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:14 am
I like the motioning of McFadden to the slot on that screen play. That’s the kind of play that was missing last season and worked for Cable in the past. I hope we see a lot more of that type of mismatch formation. Defenses look clueless when they see #20 out wide like that.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:15 am
So the Lakers are looking to trade Gasol for Josh Smith now huh? Interesting..
August 14th, 2012 at 9:15 am
King is going to have to learn to hold if ever wants to earn an NFL regular season paycheck.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:15 am
DVD plays with no awareness.
Has the physical talent to shadow, but seems lost as far as anticipating a route, or sensing when the ball might be delivered. Is clueless with his back to the opposing QB.
Lack of bulk hurts his tackling.
Could eventually be a force if he fills out, bulks up, and wakes up.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:15 am
Josh Smith is a rebounding beast!
August 14th, 2012 at 9:16 am
OAKLAND — Raiders coach Dennis Allen makes his debut as Raiders head coach Monday night against the Dallas Cowboys and although the game won’t count in the standings, he said it will be a night to remember.
“My first game coaching in the National Football League is a memory,” Allen said. “I still remember that. All of these are nice little milestones in my career. I’m looking forward to the opportunity.”
Allen’s first game as an NFL assistant came in 2002, as the defensive quality control assistant for the host Atlanta Falcons, in a 23-13 win over the Jacksonville Jaguars.
HERE ARE THE results of the eight previous debuts of Raiders head coaches in preseason openers:
Year Coach Result
1995: Mike White — Raiders 27, COWBOYS 14
1997: Joe Bugel — Raiders 34, COWBOYS 27
1998: Jon Gruden — Raiders 16, COWBOYS 3
2002: Bill Callahan — COWBOYS 20, Raiders 6
2004: Norv Turner — Raiders 33, 49ERS 30
2006: Art Shell — Raiders 16, Eagles 10*
2007: Lane Kiffin — RAIDERS 27, Cardinals 23
2011: Hue Jackson — CARDINALS 24, Raiders 18
– Home team in CAPS
August 14th, 2012 at 9:16 am
There was a couple.. I dont have them anymore. But DA has said streater earned time with the ones way back in the minis..
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You don’t need to provide a link for that. I agree. But I don’t agree that I saw anything saying Streater had earned a bump in the rotation AHEAD of Criner.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:16 am
Ford needs to get his act in gear. He had a horrible game. He can’t afford to play like this and keep his spot in the rotation.
Streaters trying to leapfrog ford not criner.
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co-signed Mark & Guest!
1 – King Darrius
2 – DMo17
3 – Streater
4/5 = Ford/Criner (to be determined)
6 = McGee/Carrier (to be determined)
August 14th, 2012 at 9:19 am
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 9:15 am
DVD plays with no awareness.
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Been saying this forever. Zero instincts for the CB position and ball. These are things that you are either born with or not. The best he can ever be is Routt and that is a big if. But I have no fear because RM and DA are running the show. Slackers will get pushed off.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:19 am
TxRaider210 Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 9:15 am
Josh Smith is a rebounding beast!
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And defense.
Just shoots WAY too many J’s.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:20 am
On the bright side, the black shoes with black taping look damn cool!.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:20 am
On the other hand, this game showed that, with decent OL protection, we actually have three competent NFL quarterbacks on the roster at once. We haven’t had that for years. Heck, we went how many years without a good quarterback on the roster (from Gannon’s exit to Carson getting here last fall)?
August 14th, 2012 at 9:20 am
I’d put Muhammed above Carrier.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:20 am
24.FERREIRA209 Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 9:12 am
There’s a new trend in Oakland, it’s called not signing any of those breakables and no over-paying veterans. We’re not the A’s but we’re playing moneyball this season fellas, hang in there.
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I agree that Reg isn’t in the wasting money mode, but a few posters are expressing a little angst about this 7 mill. Reg has to work with and think he could certainly find some good uses for it.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:21 am
Streater vs Criner?
I’d love to find out why they threw more to Streater and only a few passes to Criner. Was it because Streater was able to get open while Criner was covered? Streater looked smooth out there and the kid runs 4.37.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:23 am
So the Lakers are looking to trade Gasol for Josh Smith now huh? Interesting..
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I wouldn’t do that!
August 14th, 2012 at 9:23 am
Well, you do throw to the open man..so.. LOL.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:24 am
J Hill Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 9:23 am
So the Lakers are looking to trade Gasol for Josh Smith now huh? Interesting..
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I wouldn’t do that!
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I think its a very smart move.
Get rid of Gasol’s huge deal, and guarantee you keep D12.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:24 am
@DAV
I sent you an e-mail and so did Dell
did you join the FF league??
August 14th, 2012 at 9:25 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 9:24 am
@DAV
I sent you an e-mail and so did Dell
did you join the FF league??
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Doing it right now, thanks brethren.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:26 am
DAV
You’re right on with Muhammad>Carrier
August 14th, 2012 at 9:27 am
How can a CB with no awareness look to be playing the best in camp, AIG?
I need to watch the 2nd half.
Besides a couple of 8 yd outs, what did he give up?
August 14th, 2012 at 9:27 am
Criner has done nothing since OTA’s where no contact is allowed, Streater has outplayed him in camp, so they say, and in game one.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:28 am
Still very concerned about the TE position. If you think about the type of conservative offense, competency at the TE position is going to be important. You can see the plays being pass patterns of 5 or 6 yards often enough, and the TE will be included, either as a weapon or a clearout/decoy. With Myers status up in the air, we can’t wait too long to respond. Gordon/Ausberry isn’t the solution.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:29 am
http://raiderchaos.blogspot.com/2012/08/post-game-recap-preseason-cowboys-vs.html
August 14th, 2012 at 9:30 am
thats not bad news thats TERRIBLE news !!!!!
but he11 yeah …. you sir are not only a member for life, you are the V.P. !!!!
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
LOL
I will smoke again.
Print that! lol
August 14th, 2012 at 9:31 am
Chefs fan trying to rub my nose in the dirt this morning. Get a kick out of how much stock people place in preseason games.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:32 am
I’d put Muhammed above Carrier.
You’re right on with Muhammad>Carrier
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@ DAV & Tx
the guy muffed a punt and recovered it, resulting in a 4 yard loss. then caught 1 pass for 8 yards
Pryor threw like 3 passes to Carrier, all incomplete
whats the difference ??
Carrier has been shining in camp.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:32 am
I think it is pretty clear now, that Goethel is not an option at LB.
He was a step behind (or 2…or 3) on just about everything.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:35 am
Preseason games DO mean something, not just the final score. As if we made the 2 FG’s and things would be better for the doom and gloomers? LOL
But, we can see that the D looks better, our backup tackles are atrocious, our DB’s are average at best, Pryor is about as close to an NFL QB as Jeff Otis is, and Rolando seems much more motivated.
You can gain insight into what to expect for the year, just not by looking at the score.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:36 am
If Goethal isn’t an option, who do we have at LB that is? Ihenacho 53?
Face it, we have a huge issue of depth at LB, especially with Curry being a total unknown if he’ll even play again.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:36 am
Hill,
Jerry Mac pointed out that is why coaches dont make a big deal about camp stars. You have to translate it to the game. Every team has camp stars and the majority of them never make it to game day. We used to have a bunch of WR who were camp stars that never did anything in the season. One was this small dude who made all these acrobatic catches and now works as a cop in San Leandro (Kenny Shedd? #17).
August 14th, 2012 at 9:37 am
Get rid of Gasol’s huge deal, and guarantee you keep D12.
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Howard isn’t going anywhere, lol.
Dallas????
Yeah, right!
Get rid of Gasol’s contract so Josh Smith can sit here and want Gasol money?
Gasol is a better player. We can trade him next year when the big luxury tax really kicks in.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:37 am
Pryor is about as close to an NFL QB as Jeff Otis is
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lol
August 14th, 2012 at 9:38 am
Loved number #53 yesterday. Dude was consistently pushing the other guy back. Also, in limited time, Burris led the team in 3 tackles. Kid will be fine for us. And I hope Wheeler pushes Romac to play better.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:38 am
I think it is pretty clear now, that Goethel is not an option at LB.
He was a step behind (or 2…or 3) on just about everything.
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Stupar to the rescue?
time to get EJ Henderson on the phone, since we swung & missed with Benson?
August 14th, 2012 at 9:39 am
Let’s see…what do we think we know ?
We think Crawford can’t rush the passer, but then he shows he might be able to do that in camp.
We’re told Gordon can’t catch the ball – but maybe he can.
We’re told Criner has great hands – and CLANK !
We’re told Hamilton can’t rush the passer at all – he gets a sack.
Anything we’re sure of ?
Besides DMAC is a beast ?
August 14th, 2012 at 9:39 am
One was this small dude who made all these acrobatic catches and now works as a cop in San Leandro
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LOL
I get your point, but what did I miss yesterday?
I didn’t see the 2nd half.
I saw DVD “give up” an 8 yd catch on 3rd down, and I saw the refs throw a questionable PI call against him.
Surely those 2 plays don’t have everyone screaming bust.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:40 am
J Hill Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 9:37 am
Get rid of Gasol’s huge deal, and guarantee you keep D12.
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Howard isn’t going anywhere, lol.
Dallas????
Yeah, right!
Get rid of Gasol’s contract so Josh Smith can sit here and want Gasol money?
Gasol is a better player. We can trade him next year when the big luxury tax really kicks in.
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Really? Please tell me how you will move a 20 million a year contract when the luxury tax gets worse?..
Im all ears.
And its not just Dallas, Atlanta has the cap room and more talent to pair him with. Be realistic, not so purple & yellow brother.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:41 am
I will smoke again.
Print that! lol
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LMFAO!
August 14th, 2012 at 9:42 am
I think for the first time in whenever, R. McClain actually has a LB alongside him in Wheeler that he respects. He doesn’t want to let him down and holds himself accountable to Wheeler’s intensity. I’m so glad we signed Wheeler. I think he’s going to prove to be a bargain signing, and hope that Reggie signs him up long term soon.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:42 am
I saw DVD “give up” an 8 yd catch on 3rd down, and I saw the refs throw a questionable PI call against him.
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Cmon dude. He grabbed his jersey.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:43 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 9:35 am
Preseason games DO mean something, not just the final score.
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DA: “Pre-seaason games don’t count, but they do matter.”
August 14th, 2012 at 9:43 am
I dont see us bringing a LB in at this point.
Not one who will take time away from anyone at least. Maybe a pre-season depth type.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:44 am
The sky is falling! The sky is falling!!!!
Couldn’t wait to get in here and read all the Chicken Little blurbs.
1 preseason game and the Chicken Little’s are in mid season form. LOL!
I’m surprised some of you don’t have Lechler hitting the street and M. King going to the probowl.
Oh! And Jano is on notice!! LOL!
August 14th, 2012 at 9:45 am
Anything we’re sure of ?
Besides DMAC is a beast ?
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55 is a baller!
August 14th, 2012 at 9:45 am
Anyone see Jack Crawford play yesterday? I dont remember seeing #91 out there.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:46 am
J,
I like DVD and Chekwa a lot, but they need more work especially DVD. He improved from last season, but ge didn’t play as well as he did in TC.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:47 am
I get your point, but what did I miss yesterday?
I didn’t see the 2nd half.
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He also had one play on like a 3rd and 16, where the guy caught a 5 yard pass, DVD had outside containment, and whiffed and they ALMOST got a first down, if not for the hustle of our LB’s on the field.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:47 am
Dav
Congrats you’re in the best FFL in America.
Look for an email from me to make you feel right at home.
You and DMAC are the newby’s, so enjoy the season.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:47 am
Raider O Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 9:42 am
I saw DVD “give up” an 8 yd catch on 3rd down, and I saw the refs throw a questionable PI call against him.
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Cmon dude. He grabbed his jersey.
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Co-signed. The call was correct.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:47 am
55 is a baller!
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Slo-mania reigns supreme.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:48 am
I’m surprised some of you don’t have Lechler hitting the street and M. King going to the probowl.
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You must have missed the blog during th game.
The kid can kick his arsse off. I think he should have a chance to make the team.
I think it’s hilarious that his performance is being judge on his holding skills. LMBAO!!!
Are there any other punter who are holders for the FG kicker? And in jeopardy of being cut if they can’t do it?
August 14th, 2012 at 9:48 am
Raider Dell Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 9:47 am
Dav
Congrats you’re in the best FFL in America.
Look for an email from me to make you feel right at home.
You and DMAC are the newby’s, so enjoy the season.
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Appreciate it..
August 14th, 2012 at 9:48 am
Anyone see Jack Crawford play yesterday?
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@AIG
He was active for the game, but I didnt see him on the field
August 14th, 2012 at 9:48 am
RockStar,
Thanks for your help.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:49 am
Everytime I see the say ‘Ihenacho’, I think gesundheit.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:49 am
woohoo!
go DAV … unless you’re playing against me!
August 14th, 2012 at 9:49 am
To me it looked like DVD & Ford were making business decisions.
Didnt take it too serious. They played like it was an exhibition.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:51 am
DAV against Dakota, first week.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:51 am
I saw DVD “give up” an 8 yd catch on 3rd down, and I saw the refs throw a questionable PI call against him.
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Cmon dude. He grabbed his jersey.
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And the WR had a hold of DVD.
It looked like a run block.
And why not call illegal contact 5 ydr.
Replacement refs were phugging up all game.
Anyway, is that the ONE play that has you concerned about our CB play, O?
August 14th, 2012 at 9:51 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 9:49 am
woohoo!
go DAV … unless you’re playing against me!
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LOL.
Never played in a league that used Individual Defenders.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:51 am
Didn’t King have a 24 yard punt or something? He barely averaged 40 yards a kick yesterday, which would be like dead last in the league.
I was not impressed. He can’t hold either.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:51 am
J Hill Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 9:48 am
I’m surprised some of you don’t have Lechler hitting the street and M. King going to the probowl.
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You must have missed the blog during th game.
The kid can kick his arsse off. I think he should have a chance to make the team.
I think it’s hilarious that his performance is being judge on his holding skills. LMBAO!!!
Are there any other punter who are holders for the FG kicker? And in jeopardy of being cut if they can’t do it?
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Most punters in the league double as holders now. That being said, I’ve never heard of a punter being cut because his holding sucked. They’d just get the backup QB to do it.
As for King: No. He can boom them, but he’s way too inconsistent. Look at his stat line. He alternates 50 and 60-yard kicks with 19-yard clunkers. He’s certainly got potential and I wish him the best wherever he ends up, but there’s no reason to give up the best punter in NFL history for this guy.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:51 am
JFB vs STR first week
August 14th, 2012 at 9:51 am
Yea, I dont get the concern about our DBs??..
What was so bad?
August 14th, 2012 at 9:52 am
@ Dell
no problem. I’m pretty sure DAV wont disappoint
seems like a solid guy. witty & competitive. needs to work on his trash talk though. one day he’ll become a fan of the mighty Miami Heat – he just doesn’t know it yet. one more Laker hater to the FFL is always a positive imo
August 14th, 2012 at 9:53 am
Raider O Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 9:30 am
thats not bad news thats TERRIBLE news !!!!!
but he11 yeah …. you sir are not only a member for life, you are the V.P. !!!!
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
LOL
I will smoke again.
Print that! lol
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lol lol…
it has been written !!!!!
August 14th, 2012 at 9:53 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 9:51 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 9:49 am
woohoo!
go DAV … unless you’re playing against me!
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LOL.
Never played in a league that used Individual Defenders.
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It’s kind of fun. I’m still looking around for a third league, and an IDP one can be cool.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:53 am
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You must have missed the blog during th game.
The kid can kick his arsse off. I think he should have a chance to make the team.
I think it’s hilarious that his performance is being judge on his holding skills. LMBAO!!!
Are there any other punter who are holders for the FG kicker? And in jeopardy of being cut if they can’t do it?
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I was at the bar so I didn’t read during the game. He seems like he could be really good. I like how excited he was to get on the field. Would have had a nice one on the 6 inch line if they had downed it. He will get picked up.
If anyone is at Friday’s game will you tell TP to spit out his F’ing gum!
August 14th, 2012 at 9:53 am
DAV vs Dakota, Laker Hater vs Laker lover, interesting
August 14th, 2012 at 9:54 am
@ Dell
thanks for the Patriots-like cakewalk schedule
see you in the playoffs!
August 14th, 2012 at 9:54 am
King’s 40.1 average yesterday would put him .7 yards behind last-placed 50 year old Matt Turk from last year.
No thanks. Good luck in Canada kid.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:54 am
“Never played in a league that used Individual Defenders.”
One of the leagues I play in you have 36 players and start 18 that includes 2 LB’s a DT a Safety etc.
So much fun but a lot of work.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:54 am
King will have a career in the nfl. The problem with King is being able to do kicks other than just boooming it 60 yds down field. He tried to do a high kick with short yardage and ended up going only 20+ yds. But other teams will pick him up in a heart beat.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:56 am
Im all ears.
Be realistic, not so purple & yellow brother.
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That is the corniest thing you can KEEP trying to say mayne.
I’ve been prety objective from the start telling you there was NO WAY IN HELL the Lakers were going to trade Bynum AND Gasol for Howard.
Of course you keep trying to tell me purple and gold bias, blah, blah, blah.
The same way NO ONE thought Joe Johnson was tradeable, Gasol will be traded too.
Minnesota will offer their #1 pick next year AND Derrick Williams.
PRINT THAT!
August 14th, 2012 at 9:56 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 9:54 am
“Never played in a league that used Individual Defenders.”
One of the leagues I play in you have 36 players and start 18 that includes 2 LB’s a DT a Safety etc.
So much fun but a lot of work.
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Wow.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:56 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 9:54 am
@ Dell
thanks for the Patriots-like cakewalk schedule
see you in the playoffs!
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The most fun I have is when you play Plunk. The trash talk is funny and downright nasty, yet civil.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:56 am
Can Pryor play some other position than quarterback?
He looks like a wide receiver or a running back to me.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:56 am
King’s 40.1 average yesterday would put him .7 yards behind last-placed 50 year old Matt Turk from last year.
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Stats didnt really tell the true story from yesterday. Some of his kicks never got into the book because Dallas gave us a few first downs from penalties. King is a legit prospect for the NFL. If he can learn to finesse it, he will make lots of money in the nfl.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:56 am
UFC 151 Live on Pay-Per-View, August 17 2012 @ 7:00 pm PDT
Streater vs Criner
Who wins…you decide!
August 14th, 2012 at 9:57 am
Condo cost us another game with high snap!
Even Chucky was mocking him and his ridiculous cap hit!
Cut Condo already. Enough is enough.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:57 am
But other teams will pick him up in a heart beat.
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Doubt it.
At best he will be on a practice squad this season. At best.
He was 7th in D-II last year, in average.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:58 am
Guys who stood out to me on D were 55, Wheeler, Burris, Kilgore, Hamilton and Ihenacho.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:58 am
Can Pryor play some position other than quarterback?
He looks like a wide receiver or a running back to me.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:58 am
Can Pryor play some other position than quarterback?
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Our red-zone target of the future:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrZYZktLdns
August 14th, 2012 at 9:58 am
Did anyone else want to smack the gum out of TP’s mouth? Was driving me nuts! Plus if he’s going to run…he better find a mouth piece.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:58 am
J Hill Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 9:56 am
Im all ears.
Be realistic, not so purple & yellow brother.
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That is the corniest thing you can KEEP trying to say mayne.
I’ve been prety objective from the start telling you there was NO WAY IN HELL the Lakers were going to trade Bynum AND Gasol for Howard.
Of course you keep trying to tell me purple and gold bias, blah, blah, blah.
The same way NO ONE thought Joe Johnson was tradeable, Gasol will be traded too.
Minnesota will offer their #1 pick next year AND Derrick Williams.
PRINT THAT!
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Well not every team has a Russian Billionaire willing to waste money as an owner..
Bynum & Gasol for Howard didnt happen more so because the Magic wanted to start over.
Your not a homer, not saying that, but you overvalue Gasol just because the jersey he wears.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:58 am
When is the first cut date?.
August 14th, 2012 at 9:59 am
@Dell
Plunk is hilarious, he never backs down.
reminds me of Andrew Walter in ‘06 or David Carr when he played for the Texans
just keeps getting back up to take another beating.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:00 am
Guys,
Just saying King should have a CHANCE to make the team.
I guess the whole no more scholarships movement had a few exceptions, eh?
August 14th, 2012 at 10:00 am
Marley
Aug 28
August 14th, 2012 at 10:00 am
BSJ
After hearing Chucky address the Condo thing last night, you’re right sir, cut Condo asap!
August 14th, 2012 at 10:01 am
If you combine D-I and D-II, KIng’s average last season would rank 27th.
Not a pro prospect.
John Daly of punters, but 2007 Daly not 1993 John-John.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:01 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 9:57 am
Condo cost us another game with high snap!
Even Chucky was mocking him and his ridiculous cap hit!
Cut Condo already. Enough is enough.
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And replace him with whom? Specific names, please.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:01 am
I equate last night’s game to being excited about going to a nice new restaurant you’ve heard great things about and then paying a large bill after eating an overcooked steak and coming away feeling less than satisfied.
Was the steak awful? No. But the service was sub par and it the steak was a little tough.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:01 am
What about King’s acting skills ?
See him writhing around in pain, grabbing his head in agony…
Flag comes out…roughing the kicker…presto !
He’s on his feet doing a Danny Terrio dance to the sidelines.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:01 am
Guys who stood out to me on D were 55, Wheeler, Burris, Kilgore, Hamilton and Ihenacho.
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Mitchell caught my eye a couple of times.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:01 am
Marley Final cutdown to 53 Sep 2
August 14th, 2012 at 10:02 am
J Hill Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 10:00 am
Guys,
Just saying King should have a CHANCE to make the team.
I guess the whole no more scholarships movement had a few exceptions, eh?
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And I’m sure he’s getting that chance. His inconsistent showing last didn’t help his case, though.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:02 am
When is the first cut date?.
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Monday August 27
August 14th, 2012 at 10:02 am
He also had one play on like a 3rd and 16, where the guy caught a 5 yard pass,
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Ok, so that’s an 8 yd pass, a holding call, and a 5 yd pass.
Anything else, lol?
August 14th, 2012 at 10:03 am
We will be waiting on Washington, Seattle & Houston’s OL cuts to possibly replace Barksdale, unless he gets it going.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:04 am
DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 9:58 am
Did anyone else want to smack the gum out of TP’s mouth? Was driving me nuts! Plus if he’s going to run…he better find a mouth piece.
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No sh.. Where are the coaches on this one???
Take the damn gum out of your mouth, you’re a pro quarterback, son!!!
August 14th, 2012 at 10:04 am
Anyway, is that the ONE play that has you concerned about our CB play, O?
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I’m not concerend with just one play. I’m concerned because our 2 starting CBs didn’t play last season. One was injured, and the other was benched. I’m concerned because our young CBs didn’t play well again.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:04 am
theghostronin79 Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 10:01 am
Guys who stood out to me on D were 55, Wheeler, Burris, Kilgore, Hamilton and Ihenacho.
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Mitchell caught my eye a couple of times.
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Ooops, forgot to mention MM34 in there.lol Overall I was impressed with the energy the D played with, the pass Bartell gave up probably would have happened to most DB’s imo.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:05 am
MKing is auditioning for another team. At best he will be on the PS.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:06 am
You guys are in RARE form right now. Gettin lots of luaghs, keep it coming Semi’s.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:06 am
Wow. Last nights game wasn’t even a game. It was a big UGLY.
Where to start?
Well, at least DMC looked good and I honestly don’t think he should be playing the amount of reps he got yesterday, but he needs to shake off the rust.
I didn’t think Carson should have went deep on that one on one with Ford and Carson should have at least pumped faked to the middle of the field to lose the Cowboy FS. Carson looked fine overall though besides that throw. I think Allen and Knapp pulled Carson a series too soon as well.
Ford looked terrible. That ball Carson threw to him went right through his hands and Ford should have at least deflected it. Ford dropped two god balls from Carson and he looked shaky on special teams.
Ford needs to get his head out of azz and wake up and play football! Catch the ball first and worry about everything else after.
Criner made a huge drop that should have been an easy catch. Ugh.
At least one WR came to play with Streater looking good.
Reece looked good carrying the ball and Miller looked alright.
On offense though. Knapp is already starting to worry me. Not enough explosive plays called to try and score TD’s…it looked conservative.
Knapp better realize it’s about scoring TD’s on a consistent basis in this league these days.
Then we have Pryor. I think Allen and Knapp are trying to fit square pegs into round holes with him.
The opportunity was there for him to win the game, but Knapp didn’t call plays that utilized Pryors strength which is running the football.
Why didn’t Knapp call any read option plays with Pryor running the ball? He should have been calling those plays most of the time, instead of having Pryor drop back 95% of the time.
Granted though, that 3rd team O-Line in front of Pryor looked bad when it came to consistent pass protection.
I didn’t see enough excitement and energy from the team either and I think Allen and his staff need to start being more energetic on the sidelines.
The defense looked good overall.
My problem was with the offense yesterday. Ugh!
August 14th, 2012 at 10:06 am
Ok, so that’s an 8 yd pass, a holding call, and a 5 yd pass.
Anything else, lol?
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How much more you need ?
Didn’t play well.
Let it go.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:07 am
M King should definitely be placed on Raiders PS.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:07 am
but you overvalue Gasol just because the jersey he wears.
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Really???
I guess that’s why I call him Gasoft and have wanted him traded since Boston punked him in the finals 4 years ago.
Because I think he better than Josh Smith and Derrick Williams, I over value him?
PUH-LEEZE!
August 14th, 2012 at 10:07 am
The Drop off from 1st teams to 2nd teams (In terms of skill) is mind blowing……Think Dallas woulda got a nice little Booty spankin if the 1’s stayed in all game. McFadden looked ready to pop 150+, and the D was thirsty, taking control, and out for pain. I noticed more violent collisions on the whole last night, instead of arm tackles, whiffs, and torpedos….. I likes that.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:08 am
Huff played CB/ NB yesterday.
I don’t understand why different coaches think he can play CB, but some of you still argue that he can’t. You think you know more than NFL coaches, or dp you just like to argue? What makes it worse is when you talk crap and you ate wrong. Talking to you finance guy with bad math skills.
LOL
August 14th, 2012 at 10:08 am
Meanwhile, Benson’s talking smack about us, saying Green Bay is talking about winning a Super Bowl and we’re talking about winning a playoff game.
That works both ways. Other running backs are vying for a job. He’s talking about how much he deserves to be paid.
SO glad Reggie didn’t sign this jerk.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:09 am
137.Thec Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 10:06 am
You guys are in RARE form right now. Gettin lots of luaghs, keep it coming Semi’s.
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What’s your overall take Thec?
August 14th, 2012 at 10:09 am
I can’t see The Reggie wasting a valuable PS spot on a punter.
We shall see, but I don’t see what the hype is about.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:09 am
do*
are*
August 14th, 2012 at 10:10 am
146.Just Fire Baby Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 10:09 am
I can’t see The Reggie wasting a valuable PS spot on a punter.
We shall see, but I don’t see what the hype is about.
^^^^^^^
Your probably right.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:11 am
theghostronin79 Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 10:07 am
The Drop off from 1st teams to 2nd teams (In terms of skill) is mind blowing……Think Dallas woulda got a nice little Booty spankin if the 1’s stayed in all game. McFadden looked ready to pop 150+, and the D was thirsty, taking control, and out for pain. I noticed more violent collisions on the whole last night, instead of arm tackles, whiffs, and torpedos….. I likes that.
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LOL Couldn’t say it any better bro!
August 14th, 2012 at 10:11 am
Why didn’t Knapp call any read option plays with Pryor running the ball? He should have been calling those plays most of the time, instead of having Pryor drop back 95% of the time.
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Just a guess that could mean diddly squat but, I think they purposely had Pryor throw as many balls as possible, considering that’s where he needs the most work and reps. We know he can run, and THEY know he can run too. He needs to connect with his receivers MORE, and frequently. What a better chance to get him live passing attempts than Preseason? They wouldn’t be calling the same plays if the game actually mattered.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:11 am
J Hill Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 10:07 am
but you overvalue Gasol just because the jersey he wears.
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Really???
I guess that’s why I call him Gasoft and have wanted him traded since Boston punked him in the finals 4 years ago.
Because I think he better than Josh Smith and Derrick Williams, I over value him?
PUH-LEEZE!
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Your missing my point ninja.
Gasol + Bad contract = not as valuable as Smith.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:11 am
first cuts Aug 28
Final cutdown to 53 Sep 2
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thanks Dell!
so these youngsters have 2 weeks to impress Reggie & Dennis. Hmmmmmm
August 14th, 2012 at 10:11 am
Didn’t play well.
Let it go.
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55 played well, don’t see you letting anything go, lol.
And criticizing corners for giving pass plays UNDER 10 yds is WEAKSAUCE, imo.
I could see if the guy was getting toasted for OVER 10 yds. 8 yd out though?????? 5 yd pass on 3rd and 16???
LMFAO!
August 14th, 2012 at 10:11 am
Thanks Dell.
Seems to me the Organization’s main purpose last night was to get some film on 2nd, 3rd and 4th stringers so they can start trimming down the roster.
1st teamers got a couple of series and backups started entering the game with over 6 minutes left in the 1st quarter.
Now that’s expected out of teams that return the same coaching staff and schemes, I felt we’d play our best guys a little more but it wasn’t the case, looks like they know what they have already atop the depth chart.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:12 am
Wow. Last nights game wasn’t even a game. It was a big UGLY.
Where to start?
Well, at least DMC looked good and I honestly don’t think he should be playing the amount of reps he got yesterday, but he needs to shake off the rust.
I didn’t think Carson should have went deep on that one on one with Ford and Carson should have at least pumped faked to the middle of the field to lose the Cowboy FS. Carson looked fine overall though besides that throw. I think Allen and Knapp pulled Carson a series too soon as well.
Ford looked terrible. That ball Carson threw to him went right through his hands and Ford should have at least deflected it. Ford dropped two god balls from Carson and he looked shaky on special teams.
Ford needs to get his head out of azz and wake up and play football! Catch the ball first and worry about everything else after.
Criner made a huge drop that should have been an easy catch. Ugh.
At least one WR came to play with Streater looking good.
Reece looked good carrying the ball and Miller looked alright.
On offense though. Knapp is already starting to worry me. Not enough explosive plays called to try and score TD’s…it looked conservative.
Knapp better realize it’s about scoring TD’s on a consistent basis in this league these days.
Then we have Pryor. I think Allen and Knapp are trying to fit square pegs into round holes with him.
The opportunity was there for him to win the game, but Knapp didn’t call plays that utilized Pryors strength which is running the football.
Why didn’t Knapp call any read option plays with Pryor running the ball? He should have been calling those plays most of the time, instead of having Pryor drop back 95% of the time.
Granted though, that 3rd team O-Line in front of Pryor looked bad when it came to consistent pass protection.
I didn’t see enough excitement and energy from the team either and I think Allen and his staff need to start being more energetic on the sidelines.
The defense looked good overall.
My problem was with the offense yesterday. Ugh!
August 14th, 2012 at 10:12 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 10:09 am
I can’t see The Reggie wasting a valuable PS spot on a punter.
We shall see, but I don’t see what the hype is about.
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He’s an athlete capable of mocking different positions, would that make you feel better about him being on the PS?
August 14th, 2012 at 10:12 am
I can’t see The Reggie wasting a valuable PS spot on a punter.
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thats true, JFB
not like a kicker or punter has to know “the system”
August 14th, 2012 at 10:12 am
We shall see, but I don’t see what the hype is about.
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Kinda what I think about Slo-mania.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:13 am
The 20 yd catch Bartell “gave up” was a good play by the QB and WR. But you have some people also talking about he looked bad.
I guess the standard is perfection????
August 14th, 2012 at 10:14 am
Kinda what I think about Slo-mania.
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55 played well last night.
Let it go already!
August 14th, 2012 at 10:14 am
150.theghostronin79 Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 10:11 am
Why didn’t Knapp call any read option plays with Pryor running the ball? He should have been calling those plays most of the time, instead of having Pryor drop back 95% of the time.
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Just a guess that could mean diddly squat but, I think they purposely had Pryor throw as many balls as possible, considering that’s where he needs the most work and reps. We know he can run, and THEY know he can run too. He needs to connect with his receivers MORE, and frequently. What a better chance to get him live passing attempts than Preseason? They wouldn’t be calling the same plays if the game actually mattered.
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I agree with testing the kid on as many drop backs as possible, but they should still give the kid a legit change to win the game by using his legs.
Read option all day with Pryor and it keeps opposing defenses off balance.
Win the game.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:14 am
And criticizing corners for giving pass plays UNDER 10 yds is WEAKSAUCE, imo.
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2 passes under 10 yards( 5 yards and 8 yards) will give them a 1st down.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:16 am
Bartell will be just fine imo, if Dez cuts back on any WR, he usually finds a way to catch the ball.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:16 am
J Hill Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 10:13 am
The 20 yd catch Bartell “gave up” was a good play by the QB and WR. But you have some people also talking about he looked bad.
I guess the standard is perfection????
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It was a good throw and catch, but Baryell reached too late.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:17 am
Huff played CB/ NB yesterday.
I don’t understand why different coaches think he can play CB, but some of you still argue that he can’t.
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The irony of ou arguing this point is YOU said the CB play sucked, lol. Has concerned YOU for quite some time.
Huff “can” play CB, but SHOULD be playing safety ALL THE TIME.
Jeremy Ware and John Bowie “can” play corner too.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:17 am
Someone please tell me why Chekwa let the ball touch the goal line without downing it. My high school team
special team gunners were better than him. A lot of the Raiders problems stem from lack of player intelligence.
I see last night’s game as an extension of the second half of the 2011 season. A lot of sheer stupidity and under performance. I refuse to adopt the argument that it was the first pre-season game and all the mistakes and miscues are to be expected.
I watched the 49′ers game last weekend and they resembled a well oiled machine. As a matter of fact, even Rock Cartright ripped off a 19 yd run.
Of course we received the obligatory bone headed INT from CP; as I predicted his performance will change little from last year (sorry worshippers).
We already lack running backs; failure to retain Michael Bush will cause us problems. It was good to see we’ve cut our penalties down, and it seems our defense has improved. It will be good to see Bartelle and Spencer on the field, however.
Our WR corp seems okay except dropped balls are a concern. Just as I predicted, when faced with real competition and just not force fed the ball, DHB, faded away last night.
Pryor looked like a rookie who hasn’t played for almost 2 yrs; his performance was a wash. He needs to get the ball up and cure his delivery problems.
Overall, it looks to be a long season.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:17 am
Read option all day with Pryor and it keeps opposing defenses off balance.
Win the game.
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It DID work like a charm with Kapernick the other night. The ENTIRE D bit, and crashed hard left. Kapernick skeedadled off to the right and was never touched…… 70 yds to the house.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:18 am
Hey, it’s “just preseason” but i really expected a better debut.
Maybe I bought into the glowing camp reports and the whole “new era” thing too much.
I’m not unrealistic (well maybe a little bit) but i had “hoped” they’d come out on National TV and make somewhat of a “New Era” statement of sorts and at least create a little buzz of “hmmmm the Raiders looked pretty good out there”.
I was hoping Raids would give that big crowd something to get excited about too.
Not so much.
The D? They looked good imo.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:18 am
And who was the kid who got too greedy by letting the ball touch the goal line to make the punt a touchback??
That was bad.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:18 am
[Gasol/Smith]
PPG – 17.4 / 18.8
RPG – 10.4 / 9.6
APG – 3.7 / 3.9
BPG – 1.4 / 1.7
SPG – 0.6 / 1.4
One of these guys makes half as much as the other. And he also guarantees you keep D12.
NO BRAINER.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:18 am
DKnight007 Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 10:18 am
And who was the kid who got too greedy by letting the ball touch the goal line to make the punt a touchback??
That was bad.
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Chekwa
August 14th, 2012 at 10:18 am
2 passes under 10 yards( 5 yards and 8 yards) will give them a 1st down.
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Dell,
I think you may be outta your league with the math thing.
This guy is pretty sharp!
August 14th, 2012 at 10:20 am
Its not like Johnnie Morant was out there beating Bartell.
Bryant is no chump on the field.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:20 am
DB*
August 14th, 2012 at 10:20 am
Last night’s game like most pre-season exercises are like Dicken’s ‘A Tale of Two Cities’.
It was the best of times, it was the worst of times.
There was good and bad.
The only thing that really concerns me about last night is TIM.
Can’t have that crap and have any hope.
DA better stop coddling TIM and get that crap cleaned up.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:21 am
DKnight #138
Knapp has got me worried too. I was worried before, but last nites game confirmed it.
5 yd crossing routes, Bubble Screens, 5 yd crossing routes, 5 yd out routes.
3rd and 15, 5 yd crossing route…… etc, etc, etc.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:21 am
J Hill Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 10:17 am
Huff played CB/ NB yesterday.
I don’t understand why different coaches think he can play CB, but some of you still argue that he can’t.
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The irony of ou arguing this point is YOU said the CB play sucked, lol. Has concerned YOU for quite some time.
Huff “can” play CB, but SHOULD be playing safety ALL THE TIME.
Jeremy Ware and John Bowie “can” play corner too.
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I said: Our CBs are a Concern, and I mentioned Bartell, Spencer, and the 2 young guys.
You do realize Huff is a Safety, correct?
I said I’m not sold on our CBs. CBs!
No! Bowie and Ware can’t play CB.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:21 am
Cedric Benson on why he said no thanks to Reggie McK and the Raiders: (from the link above)
“They talk about a Super Bowl around here, not about winning their first playoff game,” Benson said earlier in the interview.
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Still wish you had this bum?
August 14th, 2012 at 10:23 am
166.blackandsilverside Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 10:17 am
Someone please tell me why Chekwa let the ball touch the goal line without downing it. My high school team
special team gunners were better than him. A lot of the Raiders problems stem from lack of player intelligence.
I see last night’s game as an extension of the second half of the 2011 season. A lot of sheer stupidity and under performance. I refuse to adopt the argument that it was the first pre-season game and all the mistakes and miscues are to be expected.
I watched the 49′ers game last weekend and they resembled a well oiled machine. As a matter of fact, even Rock Cartright ripped off a 19 yd run.
Of course we received the obligatory bone headed INT from CP; as I predicted his performance will change little from last year (sorry worshippers).
We already lack running backs; failure to retain Michael Bush will cause us problems. It was good to see we’ve cut our penalties down, and it seems our defense has improved. It will be good to see Bartelle and Spencer on the field, however.
Our WR corp seems okay except dropped balls are a concern. Just as I predicted, when faced with real competition and just not force fed the ball, DHB, faded away last night.
Pryor looked like a rookie who hasn’t played for almost 2 yrs; his performance was a wash. He needs to get the ball up and cure his delivery problems.
Overall, it looks to be a long season.
^^^^^^^
That was Chekwa who got too greedy and let the ball touch the goal line??
Terrible!
I agree. With the way the offense performed…it looks to be a long season and IF DMC gets hurt?
OMG! : (
If the offense sputters and regresses from last year and doesn’t score points….I’m gonna be pissed!
The D at least has nowhere to go but up.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:23 am
Get Goethel to LS, or Crawford, or Stupar. All can play real football.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:23 am
Someone please tell me why Chekwa let the ball touch the goal line without downing it. My high school team
special team gunners were better than him. A lot of the Raiders problems stem from lack of player intelligence.
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Checkwa knows our defense gives up 99.5 yard drives. He thought 99.9 might make a difference.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:23 am
Fu(k Benson and his 3.8 ypc and his Sutter Home wine!
August 14th, 2012 at 10:24 am
1. theghostronin79 Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 10:11 am
Why didn’t Knapp call any read option plays with Pryor running the ball? He should have been calling those plays most of the time, instead of having Pryor drop back 95% of the time.
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Just a guess that could mean diddly squat but, I think they purposely had Pryor throw as many balls as possible, considering that’s where he needs the most work and reps. We know he can run, and THEY know he can run too. He needs to connect with his receivers MORE, and frequently. What a better chance to get him live passing attempts than Preseason? They wouldn’t be calling the same plays if the game actually mattered.
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Well said. That’s all I wanted to do is see him throw and go through his reads.
As for this comment as well….
On offense though. Knapp is already starting to worry me. Not enough explosive plays called to try and score TD’s…it looked conservative
The coaches have curtain things they want to work on. Plus we aren’t going to come out and throw bombs every other play. They want as many reps as possible.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:24 am
Gasoft put those numbers up as the 3rd option.
Send him to Atlanta as the #1 or 2 option, and it’s not even close.
When is Josh Smith’s contract up? He will CERTAINLY want a raise.
And he is NOT a good fit with Howard, imo.
Lakers need to focus on finding a young PG to pair with Howard long term. Not Josh “The Game” Smith.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:24 am
guest123 Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 10:21 am
Cedric Benson on why he said no thanks to Reggie McK and the Raiders: (from the link above)
“They talk about a Super Bowl around here, not about winning their first playoff game,” Benson said earlier in the interview.
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Still wish you had this bum?
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Well, its true isnt it?
Not like his comment is so far out there..
August 14th, 2012 at 10:24 am
J Hill Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 10:18 am
2 passes under 10 yards( 5 yards and 8 yards) will give them a 1st down.
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Dell,
I think you may be outta your league with the math thing.
This guy is pretty sharp!
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I understand that Math and science are not the strength of our school system, but there us no excuse for this level of ignorance.
You People need to improve your math skills.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:25 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 10:23 am
Get Goethel to LS, or Crawford, or Stupar. All can play real football.
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Endorsed! Sell the Condo!
August 14th, 2012 at 10:26 am
People…our starters played a good 6 to 7 minutes of football last night, no way to tell how the season will go just yet.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:26 am
“They talk about a Super Bowl around here, not about winning their first playoff game,” Benson said earlier in the interview.
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The guy is literally a phaagghhh.
He was angry we made him cry on a national radio interview, and had to try and get in a shot.
Just like a woman, lol!
August 14th, 2012 at 10:27 am
I still have plenty of Kool-aid left, and will partake in drinking as much as I want.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:27 am
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000049946/article/olympian-jeff-demps-hopes-to-play-in-the-nfl-in-2012
This would be an Al Davis special. What the heck, we could use another world class speed RB.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:28 am
J Hill Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 10:24 am
Gasoft put those numbers up as the 3rd option.
Send him to Atlanta as the #1 or 2 option, and it’s not even close.
When is Josh Smith’s contract up? He will CERTAINLY want a raise.
And he is NOT a good fit with Howard, imo.
Lakers need to focus on finding a young PG to pair with Howard long term. Not Josh “The Game” Smith.
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You mean like when he was the #1 option in Memphis?
His PPG were up by 2. RPG down.
Smith wasnt the #1 and sometimes not even the #2 option in ATL.
There is nothing about Smith’s game, or Gasol’s for that matter, that doesnt fit with Howard
August 14th, 2012 at 10:28 am
CP was most disappointing. Dude talks a good game, but like Sponge Bob and Square Pants, he just keeps throwing those bone-headed INT’s.
Besides massive confusion and inconsistency, part of the problem last night came from a lack of any good running back, once DMAC exited.
Why does SF have at least 6 RBs who can do the job and we have only one injury prone DMAC?
I was expecting, at the least, CP and the 1st string crew would put together a drive and score. But no, only confusion reined.
Can’t say I am impressed whatsoever.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:29 am
176.KoolKell Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 10:21 am
DKnight #138
Knapp has got me worried too. I was worried before, but last nites game confirmed it.
5 yd crossing routes, Bubble Screens, 5 yd crossing routes, 5 yd out routes.
3rd and 15, 5 yd crossing route…… etc, etc, etc.
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Oh yeah…as soon as they hired him back I was worried.
Just weird conservative play calling and not enough explosive plays.
At least Hue Jackson made things explosive on offense.
I want to see the 1st team offense play a whole quarter in the next game…or at least 5 offensive series. Whichever comes first.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:29 am
You do realize Huff is a Safety, correct?
I said I’m not sold on our CBs. CBs!
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Yes, I do.
Do you????
I thought you were arguing that he could play corner? And used the fact that he played CORNER last night to back up your point?
Was I mkistaken? Are you now saying Huff is NOT a corner and the coaches are making a mistake by having as the starting nickel CORNER?
August 14th, 2012 at 10:30 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 10:23 am
Get Goethel to LS, or Crawford, or Stupar. All can play real football.
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And what experience does any of them have long-snapping?
August 14th, 2012 at 10:30 am
193.blackandsilverside Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 10:28 am
CP was most disappointing. Dude talks a good game, but like Sponge Bob and Square Pants, he just keeps throwing those bone-headed INT’s.
Besides massive confusion and inconsistency, part of the problem last night came from a lack of any good running back, once DMAC exited.
Why does SF have at least 6 RBs who can do the job and we have only one injury prone DMAC?
I was expecting, at the least, CP and the 1st string crew would put together a drive and score. But no, only confusion reined.
Can’t say I am impressed whatsoever.
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It wasn’t all CP’s fault. Knapp was calling plays. Ugh
August 14th, 2012 at 10:30 am
People…our starters played a good 6 to 7 minutes of football last night, no way to tell how the season will go just yet.
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That’s the truth.
But if TIM doesn’t get his act together we’re going down the tubes.
Guaranteed.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:31 am
You get the feeling that Al Saunders is off to the side shaking his head at Knapp’s play calls, thinking about how much he misses Hue.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:31 am
Still wish you had this bum?
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Well, its true isnt it?
Not like his comment is so far out there..
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True or Not… it shows where his Head is and what he really thinks of the Raiders. To come out and say something like that is a little unprofessional anyway IMO. Something you tell your family while considering offers but, not to the general public.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:32 am
J Hill Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 10:29 am
You do realize Huff is a Safety, correct?
I said I’m not sold on our CBs. CBs!
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Yes, I do.
Do you????
I thought you were arguing that he could play corner? And used the fact that he played CORNER last night to back up your point?
Was I mkistaken? Are you now saying Huff is NOT a corner and the coaches are making a mistake by having as the starting nickel CORNER?
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I said I’m concerned about our CBs, and not our Safety who csn/ does play CB due to us being thin at that position.
Not so complicated. it’s not math! lol
August 14th, 2012 at 10:32 am
I have watched the Palmer interception about ten times. Am I the only one who thinks it was a perfectly thrown pass and should have been caught?
It went right through Fords hands.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:32 am
183.DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 10:24 am
1. theghostronin79 Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 10:11 am
Why didn’t Knapp call any read option plays with Pryor running the ball? He should have been calling those plays most of the time, instead of having Pryor drop back 95% of the time.
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Just a guess that could mean diddly squat but, I think they purposely had Pryor throw as many balls as possible, considering that’s where he needs the most work and reps. We know he can run, and THEY know he can run too. He needs to connect with his receivers MORE, and frequently. What a better chance to get him live passing attempts than Preseason? They wouldn’t be calling the same plays if the game actually mattered.
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Well said. That’s all I wanted to do is see him throw and go through his reads.
As for this comment as well….
On offense though. Knapp is already starting to worry me. Not enough explosive plays called to try and score TD’s…it looked conservative
The coaches have curtain things they want to work on. Plus we aren’t going to come out and throw bombs every other play. They want as many reps as possible.
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I don’t want one on one bombs (like what CP threw to Ford)..but I expected to see a bit more 15-20 or more yard pass plays shown to get the timing down and a little more creativity.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:33 am
DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 10:24 am
The coaches have curtain things they want to work on. Plus we aren’t going to come out and throw bombs every other play. They want as many reps as possible.
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How about scoring points, you think they want to score points?
August 14th, 2012 at 10:34 am
202.Twocents Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 10:32 am
I have watched the Palmer interception about ten times. Am I the only one who thinks it was a perfectly thrown pass and should have been caught?
It went right through Fords hands.
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I thought it should have been caught. It went through Fords hands. Ford was terrible last night and he needs to get his head out of his azz and play football.
I think CP should have gave a pump fake though to scare off the FS however.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:34 am
J Hill,
Shot attempts for LAL last year:
Kobe – 1300 +
Gasol – 900 +
Bynum – 700 +
Gasol wasnt the 3rd option.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:34 am
If Ford hadn’t dropped 3 balls and made plays, Knapp probably wouldn’t be getting dawged yet. Ford needs to put up or shut up and take a demotion.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:35 am
The game was very interesting to say the least. Buckle your seat belts raider fans this is going to be a looooooong year.
Carson palmer picked up where he left off throwing a mind numbing interception before he could make it out of the second offensive series. To be fair carson is in a new offense that doesnt really fit his skill set, and installing a west coast offense is always hard on the offense in year one. The alarming thing (although it is a dull exhausted alrm at this point) Carson threw into double coverage. this has nothing to do with a new offense, this was just a terrible decision. Carson has shown us what his ceiling is. he will never lead this team deep into the playoffs because he simple cant make good enough decisions with the ball to protect leads or sustain a consistent attack. Palmer should start he is the most experienced. however if we should start to look as though we will miss the playoffs bench his behind and lets look to the future.
Lienart should never see the field. he also has shown his ceiling, he can only be mediocre, and just good enough to get you beat. Not only does he have a pop gun for an arm and lead feet, he also has a proclivity for the ill timed int. If carson gets hurt and we are in the playoff race lienart will not be able to close the deal. he should be relegated to the emergency qb role.
Terrel pryor surprised me last night. This kid has worked his tail off since his buck eye days and I saw lots oof positives.
pryor has gone such a long time with playing any kind of meaningful football that he was clearly rushed early. i almost felt as though he wanted to make up for all of the time he missed in just a few downs. he tried to do too much, he left the pocket too early, and his passing was also off target. The good news is as the game wore on he began to settle down and look better and better.
Pryor made all of the right reads from the pocket. Except for the final desperation throw, he only threw the ball to guys that were in single coverage or uncovered!! true he missed but he missed low. he was being very careful not to make the big interception, and i liked that a lot. with more game experience he will not rush throws and hit more receivers, but making the right reads is critical. pryor is very difficult to bring down i the pocket, like big ben and cam newton. pryor need game reps, his talent showed up last night, and he will need live game experience to hone his skill, polish his technique, and gain confidence. If pryor had to play extended time this year he would take his share of lumps but he would also make lots of big plays. The fact that he doesnt want to turn the ball over also would keep the games close.
I would make pryor the first off the bench if palmer gets injured, or if palmer struggles and flops. i would never let lienart in the game, because we know what he is as well. If we loose early lets hand the reigns to pryor, let him have his growing pains and develop. This way next year we can truly compete, after the offense has beeen in place for a full year.
stock down palmer, lienart, they continue to be who they always have been.
stock up pryor, better in game than in practice, showed huge upside, and wants to protect the football
August 14th, 2012 at 10:35 am
Twocents.
Have you watched the take from the back of the End Zone?.
The ball was overthrown and toward the sidelines, Ford had no chance, it looks deceiving on the regular take.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:35 am
theghostronin79 Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 10:31 am
Still wish you had this bum?
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Well, its true isnt it?
Not like his comment is so far out there..
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True or Not… it shows where his Head is and what he really thinks of the Raiders. To come out and say something like that is a little unprofessional anyway IMO. Something you tell your family while considering offers but, not to the general public.
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Am I missing something?
I dont see the big deal here?
August 14th, 2012 at 10:35 am
When the QB rolls to one side, he pretty much has to throw it to that side. If the defense rolls with you, you’re fked. Maybe a 2yd completion.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:36 am
guest123 Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 10:31 am
You get the feeling that Al Saunders is off to the side shaking his head at Knapp’s play calls, thinking about how much he misses Hue.
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Bro, it’s the 1st pre-season game LOL
August 14th, 2012 at 10:36 am
Scratch that hope of landing Zach Miller from Seattle off waivers. He’s got another reported concussion and maybe on his way out of the league with a few more big hits.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:36 am
CBs: Bartell, Spencer, DVD, and Chekwa.
Safety: Huff.
Safety who can okay CB: Huff
I’m concerned about our CBs, and not our FS who csn play CB, and ge does because we lack talent at that position.
Not rocket science or Math!
August 14th, 2012 at 10:37 am
If Palmer puts less air on it and throws it to the inside the Safety doesn’t get there, but that would have been an Aaron Rodgers kind of throw that few people can make.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:38 am
Who can PLAY* CB: Huff.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:38 am
210.DennisAllensVisor Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 10:35 am
theghostronin79 Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 10:31 am
Still wish you had this bum?
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Well, its true isnt it?
Not like his comment is so far out there..
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True or Not… it shows where his Head is and what he really thinks of the Raiders. To come out and say something like that is a little unprofessional anyway IMO. Something you tell your family while considering offers but, not to the general public.
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Am I missing something?
I dont see the big deal here?
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There is no no big deal. Benson went to a team where he can win a title. Nothing wrong with that.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:40 am
Am I missing something?
I dont see the big deal here?
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It’s not a big deal. Guest just asked if we still wanted Benson after knowing what he said. I was hoping we could get by withOUT signing him anyway….. His comment just reinforced my desire to keep him out of Oakland. none of it matters now…. I was just sticking my nose in the convo…
August 14th, 2012 at 10:40 am
If Palmer puts less air on it and throws it to the inside the Safety doesn’t get there, but that would have been an Aaron Rodgers kind of throw that few people can make.
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The throw was good enough to get the job done. Not Aaron Rodgers like, but adequate. What wasn’t adequate was Palmer not looking off the safety.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:41 am
Benson should realize that any team who makes the playoffs, has a chance to win it all, if they get hot at the right time. He’s just all over Rodger’s jock.imo
August 14th, 2012 at 10:41 am
204.KoolKell Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 10:33 am
DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 10:24 am
The coaches have curtain things they want to work on. Plus we aren’t going to come out and throw bombs every other play. They want as many reps as possible.
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How about scoring points, you think they want to score points?
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Exactly. In the NFL these days….it’s about scoring TD’s on a consistent basis. The Pats look out score everyone in preseason. They don’t give a crap about anything else.
If a team doesn’t score TD’s then that team has no chance of competing consistently.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:41 am
Duck, Condo had none either until we coached him. Time to prep for the Condo-less future!
August 14th, 2012 at 10:42 am
219.guest123 Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 10:40 am
If Palmer puts less air on it and throws it to the inside the Safety doesn’t get there, but that would have been an Aaron Rodgers kind of throw that few people can make.
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The throw was good enough to get the job done. Not Aaron Rodgers like, but adequate. What wasn’t adequate was Palmer not looking off the safety.
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Exactly!
August 14th, 2012 at 10:42 am
RaiderDuck Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 10:08 am
Meanwhile, Benson’s talking smack about us, saying Green Bay is talking about winning a Super Bowl and we’re talking about winning a playoff game.
That works both ways. Other running backs are vying for a job. He’s talking about how much he deserves to be paid.
SO glad Reggie didn’t sign this jerk.
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Have to agree. Was open to letting him try out, but seems like an unstable dude. I don’t believe it unless it comes from Reggie. This is a guy that seemed excited about the prospect of coming here just a short while ago and a guy who’s denied to DWIs and punching a bartender in the face. He’s a compulsive liar.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:42 am
Palmer should not have thrown it without pump-faking the Safety, that’s a given.
But why not call for a play-action pass instead of a straight drop back?…Safety would have had to respect D-Mac and would have been late to the ball.
That INT was entirely on Palmer with an assisst from Knapp, it’s all about deception and there was none on that play.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:43 am
Raider O Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 10:04 am
Anyway, is that the ONE play that has you concerned about our CB play, O?
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I’m not concerend with just one play. I’m concerned because our 2 starting CBs didn’t play last season. One was injured, and the other was benched. I’m concerned because our young CBs didn’t play well again.
ROCKET SCIENCE?
August 14th, 2012 at 10:44 am
The Raiders were recipients of the Cowboys largess last night due to bone headed penalties, which is the main reason the Raiders stayed on the field almost the entire first half.
Other than than that the Raiders did squat: it reminded me of their game against Green Bay last year. I wish we could lose CP (Sponge Bob) and get a young and coming QB.
Spongey is a clown, and just keeps throwing those INT’s.
I doubt Knapp will last long. RB’s up the middle for no yds; didn’t we see that last year, as well as 3 yd screens and check downs?
August 14th, 2012 at 10:44 am
The ball was overthrown and toward the sidelines, Ford had no chance, it looks deceiving on the regular take.
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Exactly. Ford had no chance. Best he could have done was try to break it up.
Ball should have never been thrown to begin with, despite what DA says.
100% TIM’s fault.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:46 am
Guest.
Trust me, once you see the take from the back of the End Zone you’ll see it was overthrown and 2 yards to the left of Ford.
Look at the spot where Sensabaugh caught it, he ran past Ford toward the sidelines, he didn’t stepn in front of it or stole it from Ford, he caught an errand ball.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:47 am
But why not call for a play-action pass instead of a straight drop back?…Safety would have had to respect D-Mac and would have been late to the ball.
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True, Knapp had Dallas on the ropes with those 2 DMAC plays back to back. That one screen if he DMAC had cut outside instead of inside, he’d be gone for 6. The defense was on its heels and would’ve bitten on the fake PA pass. I fault Knapp more than I fault CP3 in that situation.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:47 am
Blackandsilverside Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 10:44 am
The Raiders were recipients of the Cowboys largess last night due to bone headed penalties, which is the main reason the Raiders stayed on the field almost the entire first half.
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Hello.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:47 am
Ford got muscled off his route and lost momentum, pass was damn near perfect. If that was Moore, that was a catch!
You Palmer bashers are relentless
August 14th, 2012 at 10:47 am
Lol. Here come the doom and gloomers. Go ahead and write the book on this year’s offense based on 10 plays while most if us sit back and laugh.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:48 am
guest123 Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 10:40 am
If Palmer puts less air on it and throws it to the inside the Safety doesn’t get there, but that would have been an Aaron Rodgers kind of throw that few people can make.
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The throw was good enough to get the job done. Not Aaron Rodgers like, but adequate. What wasn’t adequate was Palmer not looking off the safety.
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Bob Marley Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 10:42 am
Palmer should not have thrown it without pump-faking the Safety, that’s a given.
But why not call for a play-action pass instead of a straight drop back?…Safety would have had to respect D-Mac and would have been late to the ball.
That INT was entirely on Palmer with an assisst from Knapp, it’s all about deception and there was none on that play.
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Lets not make excuses he made a poor decision to throw to that receiver in the first place, then he compounded the issue with a poor throw. this guy should be on a very very short leash. i would give him the first 4-5 games of the year to prove he can lead and play mistake free. if not bench him and lets get t.p some valuable p-laying time and find out if he can be the guy next year and moving forward.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:48 am
Post Game Reaction….. http://raiderchaos.blogspot.com/2012/08/post-game-videos-cowboys-vs-raiders.html
August 14th, 2012 at 10:49 am
KoolKell Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 10:35 am
When the QB rolls to one side, he pretty much has to throw it to that side. If the defense rolls with you, you’re fked. Maybe a 2yd completion.
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As a high school QB, I would roll to my left, following my line, pump faking and making eye contact with my receiver to the left. At the last moment I would throw to my tight, who would be out on the flat 15 yds from the line of scrimmage, and make the play every time.
Am I missing something ?
August 14th, 2012 at 10:49 am
Ball should have never been thrown to begin with, despite what DA says.
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So you know better than our head coach? Well Schit, Reg should have hired you then!
August 14th, 2012 at 10:50 am
That pass from Palmer to Ford should have been a TD, wouldn’t be surprised if it hit Ford’s finger-tips.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:50 am
Marley post 229,
Yes I saw what you saw. But I also remember the Jacoby Ford of old who would “climb the ladder” and fight thru the scrum for the ball at the high point. Ford could have gone after that pass. It’s well within his reportoir of skills. I love little #12. He had a really bad game, I know what he is capable of and yesterday wasn’t it.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:51 am
I agree 100%. Ford either has to come down with that ball or at least play db and knock it down. He had a bad night week 1 of pre season…..BFD
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SaintKaufman Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 10:47 am
Ford got muscled off his route and lost momentum, pass was damn near perfect. If that was Moore, that was a catch!
You Palmer bashers are relentless
August 14th, 2012 at 10:51 am
Watch the throw some more, it’s within inches of being a strike, but on Ford.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:52 am
Mistic,
dude, you’re kidding right??
August 14th, 2012 at 10:52 am
……throw to my tight end, out on the right *** flat…..
August 14th, 2012 at 10:53 am
“I have watched the Palmer interception about ten times. Am I the only one who thinks it was a perfectly thrown pass and should have been caught?
It went right through Fords hands.”
No you are correct all this BS in here about Palmer is just that angry pissed of fans with nothing better to do than hate on our QB.
Palmer will be a top 10 QB this year it was the first pre season game give them a break.
All of you whining and crying about what happened last night let me spell it out for you semi pros.
37 penalty yards and what about 10 yards rushing in the first half GIVE ME A BREAK!!!
Progress is there we will not be perfect in the first pre season game lets all just hold on to our ass smelling opinions until we get to game 3 of this pre season.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:53 am
There is nothing about Smith’s game, or Gasol’s for that matter, that doesnt fit with Howard
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We can agree to disagree.
Gasol for Smith straight up???
THIS year????
I’d keep Gasol.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:55 am
“Mistic,
dude, you’re kidding right??”
No he is not kidding he hates Palmer and is a Jason Campbell fan he would like nothing more than to see Palmer fail.
Where is JC now…oh yeah holding a clip board in Chicago.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:55 am
I think we could have something very special in pryor. he has too much talent to languish on the bench. We must find out if he can take his big time talent and be a consistent winner in the pro game. Clearly he has grown leaps and bounds over what he was in college, how high is the ceiling? We will only know when he gets to start 4-5 games in a row.
Honestly i think if he was getting more reps in practice he would be better in the game. the kid impressed me with his knowledge of the playbook, his poise in the pocket, and other wordly play making ability. Yes knowledege of the playbook, he audible d once, and made all of the correct reads once he settled down and started going through his progressions. He is doing all of this on third string reps!!!!
If i were D.a i would play palmer 2 series on friday, and let pryor play the remainder of the game. Ther is no need to play leinart, he knows the offense, and he will never be our future. His snaps are wasted snaps in the pre season.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:56 am
I have no problem with Knapp calling for the bomb there.
It’s first down. If TIM throws it away, looks elsewhere, or checks down – the Raids still have 3 downs to gain 10 yards.
Heck, taking a sack is preferable to throwing into double coverage.
100% TIM’s fault.
DA better stop coddling him by excusing the throw and start pounding home ball security.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:56 am
SaintKaufman Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 10:52 am
Mistic,
dude, you’re kidding right??
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No, he’s not. Most of us have learned to ignore his outrageous propaganda. You’d do well to do the same. He has an agenda.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:56 am
Yeah, that was out of character for Ford, because he usually fight well for the ball.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:57 am
When people start to make it personal they lose perspective, it’s not about Palmer, Ford or Knapp.
Palmer made up his mind that he was throwing it long, then missed reading the Safety, then made a bad throw, Knapp should have more imagination than calling for a 5 step drop and a long ball without any deception.
But Palmer is the least of my concerns, he’ll be just fine, I’m not bashing him at all, he made a bad play, it happens to the best of them, period.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:57 am
All of you whining and crying about what happened last night let me spell it out for you semi pros.
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Those pushing this propaganda are NOT semis.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:58 am
225.Bob Marley Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 10:42 am
Palmer should not have thrown it without pump-faking the Safety, that’s a given.
But why not call for a play-action pass instead of a straight drop back?…Safety would have had to respect D-Mac and would have been late to the ball.
That INT was entirely on Palmer with an assisst from Knapp, it’s all about deception and there was none on that play.
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Exactly!
Bad timing and bad play call overall from Knappy and CP should have just thrown it to DMC. If he was going deep to an undersized WR like Ford, pump fake the FS off.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:58 am
Thanks fellas. Haven’t been in here for a while.
Palmer, McFadden, Moore. Look the hell out!
….still wish we got a stud TE!
August 14th, 2012 at 10:59 am
KK
All Ford’s drops last night were due to lack of focus on his part, something I’m sure Carson and DA grilled him about after the game.
August 14th, 2012 at 10:59 am
The Big Banana Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 10:49 am
Ball should have never been thrown to begin with, despite what DA says.
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So you know better than our head coach? Well Schit, Reg should have hired you then!
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Of course the coach will try and protect his qb. everybody knows that he threw a ton of picks in a short time last year, and has thrown a ton in his career. the coach is spinning it, so as not to start any qb controversy. He needs palmer to play well, he knows he cant rely on lienart and pryor isnt ready just yet.
August 14th, 2012 at 11:00 am
SaintKaufman Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 10:58 am
Thanks fellas. Haven’t been in here for a while.
Palmer, McFadden, Moore. Look the hell out!
….still wish we got a stud TE!
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Agree. Biggest weakness IMO.
August 14th, 2012 at 11:00 am
If Ford was 6′5 he would have had a shot at that ball, he isn’t, he was running full speed while fending off the CB and twisting his neck to keep track of the ball.
August 14th, 2012 at 11:00 am
233.The Big Banana Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 10:47 am
Lol. Here come the doom and gloomers. Go ahead and write the book on this year’s offense based on 10 plays while most if us sit back and laugh.
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No Raider fan that I know of was happy when Knapp was brought back as the OC.
Knapp has alot to prove. Not the other way around.
August 14th, 2012 at 11:00 am
Sensabaugh never makes the pick if Ford makes the effort to catch the ball, he didn’t fight for it like the game meant something.imo
August 14th, 2012 at 11:00 am
You Palmer bashers are relentless
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Relentless bashing when deserved is a good thing.
TIM doesn’t get a pass.
August 14th, 2012 at 11:01 am
this guy should be on a very very short leash. i would give him the first 4-5 games of the year to prove he can lead and play mistake free. if not bench him and lets get t.p some valuable p-laying time
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That is HILARIOUS!
August 14th, 2012 at 11:01 am
J Hill Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 10:53 am
There is nothing about Smith’s game, or Gasol’s for that matter, that doesnt fit with Howard
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We can agree to disagree.
Gasol for Smith straight up???
THIS year????
I’d keep Gasol.
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Agree to disagree. Respectfully of course.
I think you need Smith to beat the Heat.
Gasol isnt a factor vs the Heat.
August 14th, 2012 at 11:01 am
The Big Banana Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 10:57 am
All of you whining and crying about what happened last night let me spell it out for you semi pros.
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Those pushing this propaganda are NOT semis.
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I’ve been listening to you holier than thou, “Real Raider Fans” for 10 years now, make excuse after excuse. 10 long years of losing
If I’m not a Semi, I don’t know what the hell you are.
August 14th, 2012 at 11:02 am
Ford played like chit yesterday!
August 14th, 2012 at 11:03 am
I saw what you saw. But I also remember the Jacoby Ford of old who would “climb the ladder” and fight thru the scrum for the ball at the high point. Ford could have gone after that pass. It’s well within his reportoir of skills. I love little #12. He had a really bad game, I know what he is capable of and yesterday wasn’t it.
I agree 100%. Ford either has to come down with that ball or at least play db and knock it down. He had a bad night week 1 of pre season…..BFD
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co-signed with Mr Brown & G123
smurf needs to step up his game!!
August 14th, 2012 at 11:04 am
Like I said awhile back fellas, this is probably Knapps last chance to be an OC/play caller in the NFL.
August 14th, 2012 at 11:04 am
If Ford was 6′5 he would have had a shot at that ball
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Agreed.
Ford’s size is the biggest problem with trying that pass. Moore, DHB, Streater, or even Criner, I get it.
Palmer will be the first one to tell you that he should have done SOMETHING better on that throw.
August 14th, 2012 at 11:05 am
KK, I wasn’t referring to you with that comment. Referring to the outrageous Palmer hating.
August 14th, 2012 at 11:06 am
I saw Ford go out and seem uninterested and scared over the middle. I also saw Streater come in and shine, take a shot over the middle, and bounce right back to play ball.
August 14th, 2012 at 11:07 am
DJ Johnny Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 10:09 am
137.Thec Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 10:06 am
You guys are in RARE form right now. Gettin lots of luaghs, keep it coming Semi’s.
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What’s your overall take Thec?
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Presea game…Meh. Lets see the starters play longer minus DMAC. I do not expect KNAPP to run anything but base. Hope he relies on A. Saunders.
August 14th, 2012 at 11:08 am
Accepting Palmer made a bad play won’t hurt you guys, he’s still the man and will play very well for us. No big deal.
August 14th, 2012 at 11:10 am
But Palmer is the least of my concerns, he’ll be just fine, I’m not bashing him at all, he made a bad play, it happens to the best of them, period.
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I hope you’re right. But the best of them don’t make repeated mistakes, and at the very least one has to be concerned about a pattern developing here. Way too many picks coming from TIM.
If you’re not concerned, you should be.
August 14th, 2012 at 11:10 am
I’ll admit Palmer could have made a better read, but the throw was on the money, I’m sure Jacoby would admit to that.
August 14th, 2012 at 11:10 am
Mystic, Let’s just call it like it is. All you want to see are black QB’s and you talk ‘em up despite what any experts or analysts say about them and despite how they actually perform.
I liked JC but he’s just “a guy”. Jamarcus sucked. It is widely considered by almost everyone that he’s the biggest bust in NFL history.
Pryor may be good someday but he isn’t right now.
Talk about Cam Newton or Warren Moon or something instead of refusing to admit that it is possible for a black QB is not posessed of all world talent and accomplishments.
It actually IS possible that a black QB is not good.
August 14th, 2012 at 11:11 am
J Hill Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 11:01 am
this guy should be on a very very short leash. i would give him the first 4-5 games of the year to prove he can lead and play mistake free. if not bench him and lets get t.p some valuable p-laying time
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That is HILARIOUS
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what is so funny about it? If palmer flops out of the gate after 4-5 games we will be out of the contention or on the extreme bubble. I dont think palmer has the ability to turn it around once he starts to tank, so our play off hopes would fall by the wayside.
If we are out of contention what would be the point of continuing to start palmer? he isnt a guy that needs to develop, we would be wasting snaps and robbing t.p of a chance to grow. we would be missing a chance to get an extended look at our potential future.
After 4-5 games if palmer struggles lets pull the plug and rebuild wit tp
August 14th, 2012 at 11:11 am
If Ford was 6′5 he would have had a shot at that ball, he isn’t, he was running full speed while fending off the CB and twisting his neck to keep track of the ball.
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I still disagree. It’s got nothing to do with his height. It has everything to do with his getting beat and outphysically played by the CB who was on him disrupting his route and timing. That was very uncharacteristic of Ford. Also maybe if the replacement refs continue to swallow their whistles on potential PI calls, expect the corners to become more cavalier in body checking receivers.
August 14th, 2012 at 11:12 am
OK, so this is a good decision as where Palmer to Ford was a bad play??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHV5Z1Ubty0&feature=related
August 14th, 2012 at 11:12 am
im worried about the cb’s……….we’ll see
August 14th, 2012 at 11:12 am
The chemistry when DMO and JFORD DHB on the field cannot be over stated. Put DMO in on that pass play and the S has to make a decision to roll to JFORD or DMO. We saw this in games when ALL these guys were healthy how devesating they can / will be.
Palmer WILL miss DMO no question however, JFORD is still the best deep threat on this team.
Now i did like the empty set with DMAC. that is going to scare the bejings out of DCO’s…
Want to see us run schit like that no huddle.
the D will have the ? mark face.
August 14th, 2012 at 11:13 am
Do most of you understand what these practice games are for?From reading many of your comments i’m beginning to wonder.You want to win but the main objective is to work on things and evaluate players.Do you honestly believe we were going to open up the offense the 1st practice game?BTW,the INT. was 99% Ford’s fault whether you want to accept it or not.
August 14th, 2012 at 11:13 am
278.
Exactly!
August 14th, 2012 at 11:14 am
Knapp going empty backfield twice with the starters and shotgun for a number of snaps was a welcome sight, I was expecting mostly base offense from him with few variations.
On the other hand, the Offense gained 188 yards in the 1st half and only got a missed FG attempt out of it, that’s what concerns KK, myself and many others.
August 14th, 2012 at 11:15 am
DJ Johnny Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 11:10 am
Mystic, Let’s just call it like it is. All you want to see are black QB’s and you talk ‘em up despite what any experts or analysts say about them and despite how they actually perform.
I liked JC but he’s just “a guy”. Jamarcus sucked. It is widely considered by almost everyone that he’s the biggest bust in NFL history.
Pryor may be good someday but he isn’t right now.
Talk about Cam Newton or Warren Moon or something instead of refusing to admit that it is possible for a black QB is not posessed of all world talent and accomplishments.
It actually IS possible that a black QB is not good.
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racist trash.
Pryor is showing that he does have a ton of upside. he needs game reps and I want him to succeed because of this. why do you notice the color of his skin, and not his talent
August 14th, 2012 at 11:16 am
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 11:10 am
But Palmer is the least of my concerns, he’ll be just fine, I’m not bashing him at all, he made a bad play, it happens to the best of them, period.
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I hope you’re right. But the best of them don’t make repeated mistakes, and at the very least one has to be concerned about a pattern developing here. Way too many picks coming from TIM.
If you’re not concerned, you should be.
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Gee, ya think?? 37 picks in his last 26 games. Safe to say that the pattern in fully developed!
August 14th, 2012 at 11:16 am
No way D12 walks to dallas for less..lol
Id pass on josh smith too I think..
August 14th, 2012 at 11:18 am
McFadden is going to have a monster year. Of course it’s overused to comment that he can take it to the house on any given play. But you re-watch his runs and it’s a minor miracle that he even gets tackled. He is so good it’s scary. If he can hone his decision making, he can have a record setting career year. Only man that stops him is himself.
August 14th, 2012 at 11:18 am
One more thing,anyone that believes Pryor should do anything but hold a clipboard if he survives the final cuts has no business commenting because they are delusional.In reality he should be a practice squad player.
August 14th, 2012 at 11:18 am
Never fails gradkowki, plamer, throw picks and it is everyone fault but there own.
wow, he threw it where the safety could make the pick and the safety made the pick. poor decision end of story
August 14th, 2012 at 11:20 am
Quite frankly, I thought Jmarcus ran Knapps offense better that Pryor did.
August 14th, 2012 at 11:21 am
Pryor and Ford will shine on Friday and make some plays, but still see no logic in considering CP a scrub yet. I think he’ll throw 2 td’s for each int this year…26-13 imo.
August 14th, 2012 at 11:21 am
last year the big excuse was palmer didnt knoe the offense. well after several weeks he knew enough but the picks continued at a jaw dropping rate.
then they said he didnt get to play with dmac so it was hard on him. well he threw the pick with a healthy dmac in the flat.
no excuses he has to get better, but im afraid he has already maxed out
August 14th, 2012 at 11:21 am
What a wast of raw natural talent to have Pryor holding a clipboard! He’s a natural playmaker and Knapp needs to somehow put the ball in his hands in space. Don’t care how but please not under center. He’s a weapon.
August 14th, 2012 at 11:21 am
I think you need Smith to beat the Heat.
Gasol isnt a factor vs the Heat.
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Not sure how you can say that.
What are they going to do, put Lebron on him?
I’d gladly take that matchup. Takes Lebron out of the equation for roaming D. And LeBron is taking Gasol to the rack with your boy manning the paint.
August 14th, 2012 at 11:22 am
Pryor is still an unknown commodidity. He needs game reps. Last night his delivery was bad, mostly, and it seems his running ability has diminished in the pro’s.
He is still a question mark.
August 14th, 2012 at 11:22 am
What did you think of the d12 trade from orlandos pov dav? I thought they had better options before, and probably again in feb..
August 14th, 2012 at 11:23 am
Guest
I’d agree, even if not at QB, Pryor is way too mobile not to be used in some capacity.
August 14th, 2012 at 11:23 am
DJ,just ignore the guy.Everyone KNOWS where he is coming from.He isn’t the only one,just the most obvious and persistent.
August 14th, 2012 at 11:23 am
Starting o-line looked really good in the run game.
Pass protection they seemed ok.
Defense looks to be a beast.
I would say Carson and the passing game/WR’s is the most important area to be better. We all know how talented the WR’s are, BUT they need to help carson out and carson needs to make smart choices. His arm looks live, I will admit those passes ford dropped, carson was surgical with accuracy, even the INT, ford turned around compleetly and slowed down the ball was 3 inches past his fingertips.
August 14th, 2012 at 11:24 am
Marks hair Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 11:16 am
No way D12 walks to dallas for less..lol
Id pass on josh smith too I think..
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Im not saying he will leave, but it is most certainly as much an option as staying.
Atlanta is the most interesting.
They have 2 of his closest friends in Morrow & Smith.
Hometown.
Chance to stick it to Orlando.
Teague… Cap space. Dangerous.
August 14th, 2012 at 11:24 am
2 words for cp3, check down…
August 14th, 2012 at 11:25 am
If I’m not a Semi
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Kell,
I thought you were a “blog personality”?
August 14th, 2012 at 11:25 am
One work for Jacoby Ford, jump!lol
August 14th, 2012 at 11:25 am
Pryor looked rough in his first 2 series, but i beleive it was just a case of nerves and being overly eager to prove he could play. After all he had gone over a year without playing real football. people gave palmer a pass when he looked awful coming off the couch, why not afford t.p the same beneifit?
he played much better as the game wore on. he made a few rookie mistakes but all rookies do. he showed enough play making and passing ability to warrant getting the lions share of preseason snaps. he also showed why davis drafted him and why the coaches think he can develop. If we are out of contention hand it over to pryor and lets see what we have.
I think we have a very very very dangerous weapon.
August 14th, 2012 at 11:26 am
word*
August 14th, 2012 at 11:27 am
1. Silverandblack666 Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 10:53 am
“I have watched the Palmer interception about ten times. Am I the only one who thinks it was a perfectly thrown pass and should have been caught?
It went right through Fords hands.”
No you are correct all this BS in here about Palmer is just that angry pissed of fans with nothing better to do than hate on our QB.
Palmer will be a top 10 QB this year it was the first pre season game give them a break.
All of you whining and crying about what happened last night let me spell it out for you semi pros.
37 penalty yards and what about 10 yards rushing in the first half GIVE ME A BREAK!!!
Progress is there we will not be perfect in the first pre season game lets all just hold on to our ass smelling opinions until we get to game 3 of this pre season.
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Don’t bother 666.
The sky is falling and you can’t tell them any different. I can understand the guys upset about the loss. But we did miss 2 FG’s. As far as play calling and TP’s play. I think it is a waste of time to judge the season base off anything you see in preseason. Pryor was force to play like a real QB until things broke down. They didn’t call the wrong plays for him. They called the plays they wanted to see if he could run.
Skip the boohooer’s. I hear what you are saying.
August 14th, 2012 at 11:27 am
KoolKell Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 11:20 am
Quite frankly, I thought Jmarcus ran Knapps offense better that Pryor did.
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After last night’s game, I’d say he ran it better than Carson Palmer as well.
August 14th, 2012 at 11:28 am
I guss its an option, but im not worried.. We have his bird rights & the city.. As far as smith, it is kinda interesting.. But I like 2 7fters that can pass, score & rebound..
August 14th, 2012 at 11:28 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain
Am not quite sure why the worshippers see CP as their savior.
Just as I have predicted since the end of the 2011 season, CP has played the best he will every play. His performance cannot and will not improve this season and he will stop us with bone-headed INT’s, just as he did last night.
August 14th, 2012 at 11:28 am
Pryor did make a couple plays on his feet where I said “how’s this dude still fkn upright” lol
August 14th, 2012 at 11:28 am
Marks hair Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 11:22 am
What did you think of the d12 trade from orlandos pov dav? I thought they had better options before, and probably again in feb..
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Satisfied.
What options were better?
August 14th, 2012 at 11:29 am
I’ll calm down soon. I gotta see some points Friday, though.
August 14th, 2012 at 11:29 am
I am wondering why Alex Smith, strictly a utilitarian QB for the 9′ers, didn’t throw an INT, in SF’s game this past weekend.
August 14th, 2012 at 11:29 am
J Hill Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 11:21 am
I think you need Smith to beat the Heat.
Gasol isnt a factor vs the Heat.
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Not sure how you can say that.
What are they going to do, put Lebron on him?
I’d gladly take that matchup. Takes Lebron out of the equation for roaming D. And LeBron is taking Gasol to the rack with your boy manning the paint.
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Not sure I understand what your saying here?
August 14th, 2012 at 11:30 am
Well put Dan.
August 14th, 2012 at 11:30 am
Just think retards, if both of those tipped balls from Jacoby were picked off you could be reveling in how Palmer threw 3 INT’s.
Bummer, huh?
Idiots!!
August 14th, 2012 at 11:31 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 10:24 am
guest123 Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 10:21 am
Cedric Benson on why he said no thanks to Reggie McK and the Raiders: (from the link above)
“They talk about a Super Bowl around here, not about winning their first playoff game,” Benson said earlier in the interview.
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Still wish you had this bum?
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Well, its true isnt it?
Not like his comment is so far out there..
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No its not true. thats not the reason he signed there. Obviously he would be fighting for a spot on the depth chart here, he would be behind DMC and possibly Goodson and or Jones. In GB he has a really good chance to start. I have a feeling Reggie wouldn’t even guarantee him a spot on the team let alone being atleast the 2nd back, he is just being a fking biatch, I was one of the people that didn’t want anything to do with him and Im glad we didn’t bring this fker here
August 14th, 2012 at 11:31 am
People are making it sound as if pryor was horrible, he was 8-15, typical rookie first pre season numbers. However after being essentially out of football for a year i was shocked that he settled in so quickly. he only needs game experience
August 14th, 2012 at 11:32 am
Marks hair Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 11:28 am
I guss its an option, but im not worried.. We have his bird rights & the city.. As far as smith, it is kinda interesting.. But I like 2 7fters that can pass, score & rebound..
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Doesnt it make more sense to get a guy for half the price, who can defend better & more positions, who will have way more years left?
Maybe im way off? But that makes too much sense to me.
August 14th, 2012 at 11:33 am
It’s not true that GB is playing for a Super Bowl & we’re playing for a playoff win?..LOL OK.
August 14th, 2012 at 11:34 am
Pryor is a shotgun QB, and as such was exceptionally successful going 31 – 4 at Ohio. Last night he was taken out of his comfort zone and operated under center. Why ?????
August 14th, 2012 at 11:34 am
friday give palmer 1-2 series, then let pryor have the rest of the game
August 14th, 2012 at 11:34 am
I saw Pryor with plenty of time to throw, not know where to go with the ball. Then he throw it at the Receivers feet.
August 14th, 2012 at 11:34 am
Depends on what your expectations for Pryor are, Lefty.
You know how I feel about the kid, but he seemed decent as far as his decision making goes. That’s step one for me.
He didn’t look “shook” at all.
Made some throws, missed some throws.
Didn’t turn the ball over. Not counting the hail mary at the end.
I think Knapp blew his best drive by calling a draw out of the time out.
I have no problem with him making the team and being the 3rd QB.
I guess that is holding a clipboard, lol!
August 14th, 2012 at 11:35 am
blackandsilverside Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 11:34 am
Pryor is a shotgun QB, and as such was exceptionally successful going 31 – 4 at Ohio. Last night he was taken out of his comfort zone and operated under center. Why ?????
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He needs to work on all apects of his game. Thats why?
August 14th, 2012 at 11:35 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 11:25 am
….I think we have a very very very dangerous weapon.
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Pryor is a weapon not a QB. So this is true. He is a Brad Smith type of player.
August 14th, 2012 at 11:36 am
KoolKell Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 11:34 am
I saw Pryor with plenty of time to throw, not know where to go with the ball. Then he throw it at the Receivers feet.
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Me too.
I think he was really concerned with throwing a pick too.
Way too early to make any solid judgement tho.
August 14th, 2012 at 11:37 am
Pryor said he played like Dog Crap, who are we to dispute this.
August 14th, 2012 at 11:40 am
Pryor is a shotgun QB, and as such was exceptionally successful going 31 – 4 at Ohio. Last night he was taken out of his comfort zone and operated under center. Why ?????
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Bingo!!!!!
The answer is McFadden is the best player on the team and the offense is designed with him in mind.
Totally agree that Pryor needs to be running the Shotgun spread though IF he ever takes over this team.
August 14th, 2012 at 11:40 am
New system, new coaches, new era! I will give it more than one game!
August 14th, 2012 at 11:40 am
321.blackandsilverside Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 11:34 am
Pryor is a shotgun QB, and as such was exceptionally successful going 31 – 4 at Ohio. Last night he was taken out of his comfort zone and operated under center. Why ?????
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Because this is the NFL and they want to see if he can play the QB position as a QB not just an athlete. It’s a preseason “PRACTICE” game.
August 14th, 2012 at 11:40 am
DennisAllensVisor,
Pryor should be allowed to maintain his comfort zone out of the shotgun. He should be broken in slowly by being weaned from what worked for him in college, if in fact what worked for him there is wrongful in the pro’s.
August 14th, 2012 at 11:40 am
Im glad JaMarcus lost some weight and learned how to punt though.
August 14th, 2012 at 11:41 am
Pryor said he played like Dog Crap, who are we to dispute this.
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LOL!
August 14th, 2012 at 11:41 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 10:35 am
The game was very interesting to say the least. Buckle your seat belts raider fans this is going to be a looooooong year.
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LMFAO!!! I quit reading this garbage after this line, if you take that away from the 1st preseason game you obviously don’t know much about preseason football, still LMFAO!
What if we put up 40 points on Friday, you going to say we going to the SB? lol #overreaction
August 14th, 2012 at 11:43 am
KoolKell Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 11:37 am
Pryor said he played like Dog Crap, who are we to dispute this.
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Untrue. He played like a rookie, having not been on the field of play for 20 months. At least he did do anything totally stupid.
August 14th, 2012 at 11:44 am
the Arizona Cards ran the ball pretty well in WK1 of Preseason. Should be a good test for our run defense on friday!
August 14th, 2012 at 11:45 am
Pryor said he played like Dog Crap, who are we to dispute this.
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J Ford also played like dog crap, an even smellier runnier kind of dog crap than Pryor
August 14th, 2012 at 11:45 am
I may have to rewatch the first couple of series but as far as I see is that Palmer did ok during those series, except for that throw. Was it on target…maybe, but the saftey disrupted it and came away with the pick! Ford did have a bad night and I’m sure he knows it! As well as the rest of the team! D did great in the first qtr, but hard to say at this point being that Dallas’ line was shaky at best! But I seen discipline and that is always a good start! Like I said, I’ll give it more than just 4 qtrs of play!
August 14th, 2012 at 11:46 am
I hear the Cards are running Ryan Williams at us this Friday. Williams is a shifty runner, who’s tough to bring down.
August 14th, 2012 at 11:47 am
Just had to drop by to do the ol’
“I told you so
regarding Prior. Lacked accuracy and field-reading in college, and that’s not something that you improve in the NFL.
August 14th, 2012 at 11:47 am
I think Darren McFadden will get 2000 yards from scrimmage in 2012. More than 10 TD’s as well
August 14th, 2012 at 11:47 am
Kell,
Did u see Manning’s preseason stats?
Did his offense score when he was in the game?
August 14th, 2012 at 11:48 am
Man, this TP myopia is just hilarious!
Thanks for the laughs.
August 14th, 2012 at 11:48 am
I think Darren McFadden will get 2000 yards from scrimmage in 2012. More than 10 TD’s as well
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Rockstar: 2000 YFS is a given, but the benchmark for TD’s is set at 20
August 14th, 2012 at 11:50 am
Another of the Welcome Back Kotter ’sweathogs’ turned up dead today, “Horseshack” found dead today at 63.
RIP Ron Palillo
August 14th, 2012 at 11:50 am
Well said Alex. TPs ceiling = Rickey Dudley
August 14th, 2012 at 11:51 am
Shake it off fellas….just one game. Pryor is clearly not a legit pro-prospect and will be off the team within a year if he doesn’t convert to a TE, but other than that, we didn’t learn much last night.
August 14th, 2012 at 11:51 am
Pryor did make a couple plays on his feet where I said “how’s this dude still fkn upright” lol
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We saw what he does when the play breaks down. He did take a big sack and it drives me CRAZY watching guys reverse field back and forth losing yards but, he can make a HUGE play outta nothing. He also drives opponents crazy when he won’t go DOWN…. He kinda had a blank expression coming outta the huddle…Chewing that damn gum prolly tryin to think of what he was supposed to do next. He didn’t look comfortable. I’ve seen him play better and I know he can. I think we’ll see pretty good strides from week to week once he gets the jitters out.
August 14th, 2012 at 11:51 am
Rickey Dudley? Ouch! That’s true hate.
August 14th, 2012 at 11:53 am
I hear the Cards are running Ryan Williams at us this Friday. Williams is a shifty runner, who’s tough to bring down.
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@G123
even though the redbirds are 0-2 this preseason:
William Powell, Alfonso Smith & LaRod Stephens-Howling all average over 5 yards per carry!
undrafted rookie WR LaRon Byrd is like a Rod Streater for them. should be a good test for DVD, Chekwa and the other second halfers
August 14th, 2012 at 11:53 am
KoolKell Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 11:34 am
I saw Pryor with plenty of time to throw, not know where to go with the ball. Then he throw it at the Receivers feet.
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Accuracy from the pocket will improve with time in the offense and reps in game. As he gets more comfortable with knowing where guys will be. he also tried to do too much, knowing that his reps are limited and rushed throws.
The good news is he only threw the ball to guys in single coverage, something our starter should try. Also when he missed he missed low, this will keep the ints down, especially throwing over the middle. he just needs playing time
August 14th, 2012 at 11:53 am
we didn’t learn much last night.
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Nope, the intensity of the defense and discipline showed. DA and Tarver have the guys ready to compete and stay within themselves on thier assignments. I think that in itself is a revelation.
August 14th, 2012 at 11:54 am
J Hill Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 11:47 am
Kell,
Did u see Manning’s preseason stats?
Did his offense score when he was in the game?
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Peyton didn’t do much, but the Broncos scored 31 pts. So their 2nd & 3rd stringers are ahead of ours.
August 14th, 2012 at 11:55 am
Dakota,
I think we learned that our D-Coordinator is a huge step up from our previous ones.
The D at least looked like they knew where they needed to be,
no huge gashing runs
no secondary guys pointing at each other after a blown coverage.
August 14th, 2012 at 11:55 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 11:33 am
It’s not true that GB is playing for a Super Bowl & we’re playing for a playoff win?..LOL OK.
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LOL, he said thats why he signed there, I highly doubt thats the reason. He wants to start and get playing time, obviously he has a way better chance in GB. The guy was crying on the radio a week ago begging for a job, if he really wanted to compete for a spot on the roster and Reggie really wanted him he would be here, Im glad he is not
August 14th, 2012 at 11:56 am
I dont understand how people can be down on a rookie qb that went 8-15 and also rushed for 21 yards?!?!?! all of this after being almost out of football and not seeing the field for over a year>!
Then the same people completely ignore the starter that throws a dreadful int in the very first series of the game!
This is weird
August 14th, 2012 at 11:57 am
I think we learned that our D-Coordinator is a huge step up from our previous ones.
The D at least looked like they knew where they needed to be,
no huge gashing runs
no secondary guys pointing at each other after a blown coverage.
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Chuck B did what Al Davis told him to do, just like Ryan & Marshall before him!
Lynn & Lopez as DB coaches instead of Woodson & Ross was another major upgrade
August 14th, 2012 at 11:58 am
353.guest123 Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 11:53 am
we didn’t learn much last night.
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Nope, the intensity of the defense and discipline showed. DA and Tarver have the guys ready to compete and stay within themselves on thier assignments. I think that in itself is a revelation.
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I think it is hard to make that leap….simply because the Cowgirls were playing with a very raw center who made our D-line look good last night. I am going to have to wait and see well into the regular season if they indeed have improved. It did help that Curry wasn’t playing…..
August 14th, 2012 at 11:58 am
@ Mistic
Palmer isn’t perfect, but he’s BY FAR the best qb we have !!
August 14th, 2012 at 11:59 am
i said it before and ill say it again, im not a fan of gregg knapp
August 14th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
The 1st honest thing you’ve ever written-I dont understand
August 14th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
283.Bob Marley Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 11:14 am
Knapp going empty backfield twice with the starters and shotgun for a number of snaps was a welcome sight, I was expecting mostly base offense from him with few variations.
On the other hand, the Offense gained 188 yards in the 1st half and only got a missed FG attempt out of it, that’s what concerns KK, myself and many others.
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I want to see the 1st team offense (except for DMC) play at least 5 offensive series in the next game or at least until the beginning the 2nd quarter.
They need to ALL be on the same page including Knapp and score a TD or two and gain some confidence as a unit and as a team!
That is important!
August 14th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
Alex,
Nope, too early to make that call on the defense. They have been bad for years and years….call me after week four (of the regular season) for a declaration that our defense is now better. One exhibition against a team with a shaky o-line isn’t convincing me of anything when it comes to our defense.
August 14th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
All qbs were equally bad, in saying that, the whole offence looked bad. Its still early, but if this continues ill be registering for an account on ancestry.com to see if chuck bresnahan is in gregg knapps family tree.
August 14th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
And as much as I dislike McClain personally, the highlight of last night’s game for me was that punishing body punch to Witten’s rib section. Witten’s whole body rippled and morphed like jelly.
Loved that!
August 14th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
357.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 11:56 am
I dont understand how people can be down on a rookie qb that went 8-15 and also rushed for 21 yards?!?!?! all of this after being almost out of football and not seeing the field for over a year>!
Then the same people completely ignore the starter that throws a dreadful int in the very first series of the game!
This is weird
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I’m not down on Pryor. He played with the cards he was dealt. I didn’t like Knapps play calling when Pryor was in though. The bad play of the 3rd string O-Line didn’t help Pryor either.
August 14th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
Peyton didn’t do much, but the Broncos scored 31 pts. So their 2nd & 3rd stringers are ahead of ours.
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Lol. Well, Schit, we’re doomed!
August 14th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
283.Bob Marley Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 11:14 am
Knapp going empty backfield twice with the starters and shotgun for a number of snaps was a welcome sight, I was expecting mostly base offense from him with few variations.
On the other hand, the Offense gained 188 yards in the 1st half and only got a missed FG attempt out of it, that’s what concerns KK, myself and many others.
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I want to see the 1st team offense (except for DMC) play at least 5 offensive series in the next game or at least until the beginning the 2nd quarter.
They need to ALL be on the same page including Knapp and score a TD or two and gain some confidence as a unit and as a team!
That is important!
August 14th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
Wow, I’ve been on vacation for a week and missed a lot.
At least I got to watch last night’s game.
-Way to step up R.Streeter
-Eddie Carmona needs to be kicking rocks not footballs
-Marquette King will have a job somewhere at some point this season
-Jacoby ford is a clown, seriously no excuses for someone at this level. He’s a joke.
-T. Pryor reminded me of Tui
-Liked the lack of penalties
-Some of the defense was promising, some was…
-Hope we spend that xtra loot we have on some DB’s
-Look foward to watching the game friday, I think coach Allen will have the team improved and motivated to score some points.
August 14th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
348.Dakota Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 11:51 am
Shake it off fellas….just one game. Pryor is clearly not a legit pro-prospect and will be off the team within a year if he doesn’t convert to a TE, but other than that, we didn’t learn much last night.
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We learned that Knapp needs to step it up when it comes to play calling the next two preseason games and get that 1st team offense to score TD’s!
August 14th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
363.DKnight007 Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
I want to see the 1st team offense (except for DMC) play at least 5 offensive series in the next game or at least until the beginning the 2nd quarter.
They need to ALL be on the same page including Knapp and score a TD or two and gain some confidence as a unit and as a team!
That is important!
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Correct me if I am wrong, but, generally, don’t the starters play the entire first half (except McFadden I am sure) in the second preseason game, and then about 3 quarters in the third preseason game, and then just the first series of the 4th preseason game?
August 14th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
Chuck B did what Al Davis told him to do, just like Ryan & Marshall before him!
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RRS – this doesn’t explain the 2nd half of the season defensive meltdown. He had nobody to answer to but Hue in the SD game, no?
August 14th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
So their 2nd & 3rd stringers are ahead of ours.
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I don’t see how that matters.
If we get down to 2nd string players at key offensive poistions like QB or RB, then we aren’t going to the playoffs.
I’m focusing on the starters. Those guys are our playoff chances.
August 14th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
Denver’s Chris Kuper out 6 weeks with broken forearm.
Peyton better get rid of the ball quick!
August 14th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
Mistic,
bad accuracy is not something that improves when a QB makes the leap from college to NFL.
Stat history has shown that.
In the NFL, windows are smaller, coverages tighter, and your accuracy needs to already be above-average, then get better!
Pryor has never been and will never be a passing QB.
August 14th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
any1 else think ford alligator armed that drop over the middle?
August 14th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
All you Palmer haters were gone during the off season and the second he throws an INT in a pre season game you all come out of the woodwork like cockroaches calling for his head.
Give it a rest Palmer is the best QB we have had since Gannon period.
The guy is going to be great this year so sit back shut your mouth until its time to eat crow which will be week 1.
August 14th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 11:56 am
I dont understand how people can be down on a rookie qb that went 8-15 and also rushed for 21 yards?!?!?! all of this after being almost out of football and not seeing the field for over a year>!
Then the same people completely ignore the starter that throws a dreadful int in the very first series of the game!
This is weird
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Pryor has alot of work to do man, I think he will show better on Friday like most of the Offense will. Did you watch the Game? He didn’t look like a QB, he looked bad. Im not going to say he will never be a QB and I do expect him to play better on Friday.
August 14th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
Lol @ cockroaches. Good analogy, silver.
August 14th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
311. Brook & picks or bynum & picks. Or strait up with gs.. I just thought a star or higher picks should have been in order..
Like I said smith would be tempting, but I think pau will really help the offense go, while giving us a backup center as well. Kobe & pau have had alot of success as well.. Id rather not start over completely..
August 14th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
I just hope gregg knapp dont have us prasing the days we had tom walsh
August 14th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
Pryor has great skills he is big strong fast an elusive but guess what he cant throw the damn ball yet its almost as bad as Teblow.
Guess what the QB’s job is THROWING THE BALL!
So Pryor can have all the athletic ability in the world but throwing ducks will keep you on the sidelines holding a clipboard.
August 14th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
Denver’s Chris Kuper out 6 weeks with broken forearm.
Peyton better get rid of the ball quick!
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@DAV
Egghead has made his living playing behind awful O-Lines with awful RB’s.
As long as he has a good OC & QB Coach with legit wideouts he’ll be just fine
August 14th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
“Lol @ cockroaches. Good analogy, silver.”
Thanks BB
Was here all off season and even the doubters saw the hard work Palmer was putting in and showed confidence in the upcoming year and now today all this hate is laughable.
August 14th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
Isn’t the idea to develop Pryor as an NFL QB?You won’t do that by calling for nothing but option plays.He has to sink or swim will learning the position.Or do you just want another Tebow?
August 14th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
Hill
The Texans last year made the playoffs with their 3rd string QB and 2nd string RB getting solid playing time.
It’s surprising nowadays if your QB and RB DON’T miss games.
August 14th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 11:58 am
@ Mistic
Palmer isn’t perfect, but he’s BY FAR the best qb we have !!
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I think this depends on what is meant when you use the word “best”
palmer is clearly the most polished and should be the starter for the time being. however i dont know if he is the most talented qb, i think pryor is in that conversation. i dont know if palmer has a higher ceiling than pryor either. Palmer has proven to be your 6-9 win wild card playoff loser of a qb, this will be his legacy it appears. We dont know how good t.p can be yet. he should get 95% of the pre season snaps form here on out, lets not waste snaps on proven commodities like the qbs ahead of him
August 14th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
Hue Jackson had a pretty good offense last year.
August 14th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
I dont understand how people can be down on a rookie qb that went 8-15 and also rushed for 21 yards?!?!?! all of this after being almost out of football and not seeing the field for over a year>!
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Agreed.
I had to be one of his biggest doubters and I came away thinking we might actually have something.
August 14th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
KoolKell Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
Hue Jackson had a pretty good offense last year.
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And we’ll be a better team this year with DA.
August 14th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
The Texans last year made the playoffs with their 3rd string QB and 2nd string RB getting solid playing time.
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Only because Manning was hurt.
August 14th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
Knapp didn’t throw any INT’s. He didn’t miss any FG’s. He didn’t drop any passes.
Palmer & DMAC got pulled pretty early, so Palmer didn’t get a chance to redeem himself and McFadden would have completely took over that game like when we played the Jets last year
Knapp’s offense will be just fine.
August 14th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
Marks hair Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
311. Brook & picks or bynum & picks. Or strait up with gs.. I just thought a star or higher picks should have been in order..
Like I said smith would be tempting, but I think pau will really help the offense go, while giving us a backup center as well. Kobe & pau have had alot of success as well.. Id rather not start over completely..
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Yea dude, Brook Lopez on a max deal is the fastest way to be mediocre forever LOL.
We didnt want to be mediocre, We wanted to start over.
Bynum would have made us the 7 seed with a 1st round exit at the hands of Chicago for the next 3 years.
We got cap and roster flexibility with picks.
Next year we can offer a max deal, in 2 years we can offer 2 max deals.
to pair with SHABAZZ MUHAMMAD
August 14th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
I can accept Palmer ints deep down the field….I can’t accept Palmer ints on 10-15 yard outs….those hurt. Deep ints are nothing more than early punts.
The int he threw against SD at the end of last year was an out I believe, but the WR fell down, so that wasn’t on him.
Palmer will be okay….he now has McFadden. That is going to be a very productive combo.
August 14th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
From what ive seen & heard of pryor, he’s at least a yr or 2 away..
August 14th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
realtruraider Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 11:56 am
I dont understand how people can be down on a rookie qb that went 8-15 and also rushed for 21 yards?!?!?! all of this after being almost out of football and not seeing the field for over a year>!
Then the same people completely ignore the starter that throws a dreadful int in the very first series of the game!
This is weird
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Pryor has alot of work to do man, I think he will show better on Friday like most of the Offense will. Did you watch the Game? He didn’t look like a QB, he looked bad. Im not going to say he will never be a QB and I do expect him to play better on Friday.
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he looked like most rookie qbs look in their first nfl pre season game. the differnce is he also showed flashes of what he can do. he only threw to guys tha were single covered, and checked down at the right times. he saw a defender running down field with his back to the qb and threw the ball in a spot to draw a p.i call.
Pryor could be the answer in 2013 folks
August 14th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
Denver’s Chris Kuper out 6 weeks with broken forearm.
Peyton better get rid of the ball quick!
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@DAV
Egghead has made his living playing behind awful O-Lines with awful RB’s.
As long as he has a good OC & QB Coach with legit wideouts he’ll be just fine
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Isnt that how he got in this situation to begin with?
August 14th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
realtrue raider
50% passing vs 3rd stringers is TERRIBLE!
I rarely saw him going through progressions, it was one read and panic.
AND that’s exactly how he played at Ohio State, so history tells us that’s who he is.
Carson is a proven veteran so I’m not worried about midget Ford not going up for a ball that DHB or Moore would have made a play on.
August 14th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
Isnt that how he got in this situation to begin with?
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touche!
August 14th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
Dakota Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
I can accept Palmer ints deep down the field….I can’t accept Palmer ints on 10-15 yard outs….those hurt. Deep ints are nothing more than early punts.
The int he threw against SD at the end of last year was an out I believe, but the WR fell down, so that wasn’t on him.
Palmer will be okay….he now has McFadden. That is going to be a very productive combo.
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INTs are drive killers and provide extra scoring opportunities for the opponent, this is never ok or acceptable no matter where it happens on the field. The throw was an egregious error which he is clearly still prone to make.
no excuses should be given for your starting qb this year
August 14th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
Only because Manning was hurt.
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@Jhill
thats like the Chiefs saying they would have won the AFC West again last year if Cassel, Charles, Moeaki & Berry weren’t hurt ….
or I guess we could say we would have won it if Campbell, McFadden, ShoNasty & CJ37 didnt get hurt!!
August 14th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
kool kell, i agree. Another thing, im not saying tp looked good, but lets face it, what did our other qbs do to impress? nothing thats what. The problem is greg ” my offence takes a ” knapp.
August 14th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
390.J Hill Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
I dont understand how people can be down on a rookie qb that went 8-15 and also rushed for 21 yards?!?!?! all of this after being almost out of football and not seeing the field for over a year>!
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Agreed.
I had to be one of his biggest doubters and I came away thinking we might actually have something.
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You also thought DVD had a good game…..and that the lakers should keep Bynum over Dwight….smh
August 14th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
50% passing vs 3rd stringers is TERRIBLE!
I rarely saw him going through progressions, it was one read and panic.
AND that’s exactly how he played at Ohio State, so history tells us that’s who he is.
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Agree, and it’s not just the percentage or rating or any statline…it’s more to do with not looking the part on any scale. He’s got 10 other guys doing their part pulling, stunting, running routes, and Pryor does his one read progression and eyes light up into panic mode.
August 14th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
Or do you just want another Tebow?
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I think he is already better than Tebow.
Doesn’t have a wind up type delivery. Looked “rusty”, but that should be expected since he hasn’t played in a while.
I’d like to see him play with the starters. I’d like to see how the defense adjusts to his running threat.
I’m intrigued to see more.
CLEARLY not better than Palmer or Lienart.
But I do want to see more.
August 14th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
Ware did u guys see the all 22 view? Whos to say the receivers were even running the right route?
August 14th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
397. Doubtful.. Tp cant read a D yet.. And his accuracy & footwork stink..
August 14th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/14/olympics-over-jeff-demps-wants-to-play-in-the-nfl/
Demps to Oakland. Any takers?
August 14th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
401.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
Dakota Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
I can accept Palmer ints deep down the field….I can’t accept Palmer ints on 10-15 yard outs….those hurt. Deep ints are nothing more than early punts.
The int he threw against SD at the end of last year was an out I believe, but the WR fell down, so that wasn’t on him.
Palmer will be okay….he now has McFadden. That is going to be a very productive combo.
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INTs are drive killers and provide extra scoring opportunities for the opponent, this is never ok or acceptable no matter where it happens on the field. The throw was an egregious error which he is clearly still prone to make.
no excuses should be given for your starting qb this year
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I know, I know, you like check-down dummies who don’t have the balz to throw deep, and who can only score TDs on the back of McFadden.
Good QBs throw their share of ints….check-down cowards go nowhere fast….other than to backup QBs in Chi-town right?
August 14th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
Bunk Moorland Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
kool kell, i agree. Another thing, im not saying tp looked good, but lets face it, what did our other qbs do to impress? nothing thats what. The problem is greg ” my offence takes a ” knapp.
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I didn’t think any of the QB’s were “impressive”. 5yd crossing routes aren’t very impressive.
August 14th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
“397. Doubtful.. Tp cant read a D yet.. And his accuracy & footwork stink..”
I have to agree here but I will say that he is a very talented young man that could in a coupe of years be ready but he needs a couple years of work first not just the one season as Mystic1 suggests.
August 14th, 2012 at 12:25 pm
Pryor looked like most NFL rookie QBs????
Andrew Luck, RGIII, and Tannehill laugh out loud.
Those guys looked like NFL QBs.
August 14th, 2012 at 12:25 pm
No concussion for Nnamdi Asomugha
just a busted lip and sore neck …
August 14th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
409. If Al were still alive…
August 14th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
Whut up beyotches!
August 14th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
burris and criner overated…
August 14th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
Cards news:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/14/report-cardinals-consider-skelton-the-favorite-to-beat-out-kolb/
Kolb to start on Friday!
August 14th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
413.alex7 Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 12:25 pm
Pryor looked like most NFL rookie QBs????
Andrew Luck, RGIII, and Tannehill laugh out loud.
Those guys looked like NFL QBs.
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Very true….Tannehill missed the first three days of camp, and still walked in and looked 10 times better than Pryor, who, has been in the NFL for about 12 months!
August 14th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
ou also thought DVD had a good game…..and that the lakers should keep Bynum over Dwight….smh
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There you go with the Buhhllshhiiddd again.
I said I wasn’t willing to bend over and take it up the wahzoo for Howard like you were willing to do. Wasn’t giving up Bynum AND Gasol OR wasn’t taking on their junk contracts. YOU panicked and bashed Buss Jr, LOL. Called him all types of names, and now he’s your best friend, LOL!
I asked you how giving up a couple of 8 yd pass completions = a bad game? Because you have no answer means I think he had a good game?
allrighteethen
August 14th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
Terrelle Dudley in 2013.
Or perhaps Teyo Pryor?
August 14th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 10:01 am
If you combine D-I and D-II, KIng’s average last season would rank 27th.
Not a pro prospect.
John Daly of punters, but 2007 Daly not 1993 John-John.
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JFB,
There was a guy on Dallas’ team that never even played college football and they are doing everything they can to make it work for him. Guarantee you King will be picked up by another team. His stats in college are useless now. They will just pull out the tape of him booming it in the preseason. There’s always a sucker GM/Owner out there willing to bite at the “POTENTIAL” thingie.
August 14th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
hat’s honestly extremely hard to argue. I think though it does more in speaking about the type of talent the Sweater developed.
QB’s at Ohio St. aren’t nearly as developed and polished as the aforementioned.
That’s why I call TP “Chocolate Timmy”!
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alex7 Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 12:25 pm
Pryor looked like most NFL rookie QBs????
Andrew Luck, RGIII, and Tannehill laugh out loud.
Those guys looked like NFL QBs.
August 14th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
burris and criner overated…
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uhmm…in limited action, Burris led the team in tackles. Even the coach had to refrain himself from being too excited on Burris. Are we watching the same game?
August 14th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
Whut up HO?
August 14th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
So, is Ford regressing or was it simply an off-night? The AZ game should answer that question. If he’s still off he may be relegated to the #5 or #6 WR and permanent KOR. Worse, he could very easily become trade bait. Streater is going to break into the starting line-up. D-Wow, Streater & DHB actually makes more sense with this Knapp conservative offense than having Ford in there. If the ball continually hits you in the hands and you don’t catch it, you won’t be seeing much playing time. Jacoby had better get his act together because the NFL also stands for “Not For Long”.
August 14th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
We have the best QB that OSU has ever produced!
Hope he has good hands…
August 14th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
J Hill-I think he is already better than Tebow.
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Based on what,last night?Maybe someday but that can’t be said now.
August 14th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
Day off. Sorry to hear you’re going treeless for a while O. This next BH is for you!
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Raider O Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
Whut up HO?
August 14th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
no but seeing him blown back is pretty revealing…
August 14th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
Hey, Silverandblack666 . Looks like Palmer picked up where he left off. lol
August 14th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
@BSJ
Danny Southwick just wrapped up his 2012 season as #2 QB with the San Jose Sabercats in the Arena Football League … think he’d like to come in and compete with Pryor & Caballero ??
August 14th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
AIG-it is difficult to tell what many watched because it sure wasn’t last nights Raider/Cowboy game.
August 14th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
In a year or two TP talent at QB may, I say may equal Tebow’s.
That’s not saying much.
August 14th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
The pro game is too overwhelming for Chocolate Timmy at the moment. Give the kid three years.
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Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
he looked like most rookie qbs look in their first nfl pre season game. the differnce is he also showed flashes of what he can do. he only threw to guys tha were single covered, and checked down at the right times. he saw a defender running down field with his back to the qb and threw the ball in a spot to draw a p.i call.
Pryor could be the answer in 2013 folks
August 14th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
Get well Jerry Buss!
#OGLakerNation
August 14th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
The Lakers will have a tax bill of around $30 million next July, and in retrospect, will view this season as their salad days — it’s the last one where the tax rate is dollar-for-dollar. Starting in 2013-14 the new “incremental” tax takes over, where being $30 million above the tax line will mean paying a whopping $85 million tax bill.
And it gets worse. Starting in 2014-15 teams will pay an even higher rate for being repeat offenders — defined as paying tax in at least three of the four previous seasons. A team $30 million over the tax line will pay — brace yourself — an additional $115 million in luxury tax.
After adding up their payroll, luxury tax bill, and revenue sharing contribution (projected to be $49.4 million in 2013-14), even the Lakers have to stop to consider whether this simply can be written off as the cost of doing business — and that’s the future if they’re paying players with salaries like Bryant, Howard, Gasol and Nash.
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/14/the-lakers-have-a-potential-85-million-luxury-tax-bill-looming/
August 14th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
again all of this tearing down of a rookie in his first nfl action is mind boggling. Most rookie qbs look like that in their first live nfl game!
yet people turn a blind eye to a ten year vet throwing a rookie pick in the opening series?!?
what a kick in the nuts
August 14th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
Get well Jerry Buss!
#OGLakerNation
What?
August 14th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
I’m actually starting to believe some never watch the games.They read the recaps then come here and expose their dislike for certain players.
August 14th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
Pryor looks to be the intern at present RRS…no need to humiliate him by bringing in a HOFer like Danny.
August 14th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
Buss = recovering from surgery per LATimes
August 14th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
@BSJ
Pryor = BDS ??
(black Danny Southwick)
August 14th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
LOL at Southwick vs Pryor deathmatch!
August 14th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
Buss = recovering from surgery per LATimes
Ok, Thanks!
August 14th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
Mistic,
Pryor is not a rookie. Can’t defend him with that.
Kid has had close to 70 NFL practices by now, and by all accounts, has not improved one iota in that time.
He is who he is, an athlete who can’t pass well.
August 14th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
I’m laughing at those who are comparing Andrew Luck, RGIII, and Tannehill with Pryor. Pryor played with the 2nd and 3rd stringers and the oline looked like matadors going “OLE!” Luck, RGIII and Tannehill played with 1st teamers. Not a fair comparison. Thank God Pryor has wheels.
August 14th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
Jbell42 we have a bet and it still stands:
McFadden will have more yards from scrimmage than your RB Reggie Bush.
Give me my $20 now bro!
August 14th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
Pryor by comparison is a rookie. Held a clipboard for 1/2 a season. Last year because of the lockout and suspension was a wash.
August 14th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
No, Danny got an education!
August 14th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
It’s a great day to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?!
You bet your a$$ it is.
Can’t believe all the sniveling in here…it was B..O..R..I..N..G more than anything else. Still, notes to be taken. Here are my game day observations:
CPalmer really looked pretty good. The interception could’ve — and should’ve — been avoided, by releasing the ball on time. Looking-off the Safety could have helped, but was not necessary had the ball left timely. See: Jason Campbell. CP3 will be high-risk, high-reward when he gets the match-ups. Me likes.
Leinart = ZZZZZzzzzzz. The combination of Leinart and Knapp is mind-numbing. If it weren’t for the crowd, I would’ve fallen asleep in my seat.
Matt Leinart will do what he does…dink (and rarely dunk) until he goes down with a shoulder injury. TPryor better get some time with the #2’s soon, because (gulp) he will likely see some playing time this season.
The O-line looked OK. Not much too high or low. Obviously, the health of Wiz2.0 means more than anything else right now. Khalif Barnes looked pretty good in space.
As usual when healthy, DMC looked like the best RB in the NFL. I will warily draft him in FFL…and win it all if he stays healthy. And cry if he goes down. Kinda like the real Raiders.
WR’s = Fail. Period. Jacoby Lee Ford should’ve caught a few he didn’t…or made sure the other guy didn’t get the Int. He’ll probably be fine.
DeMoore better get/stay healthy. Streater and Criner will continue to have their own ups-and-downs…but we’re going to need them both to play like Veterans real soon.
DVD? If he’s still a step behind in 2-weeks, we’ve got problems. Otherwise, he’s on track. This is only his 2nd camp, after all.
I’m more worried about Jacoby Lee Ford playing like a 2nd year Pro than DVD. I also wonder about Chekwa’s football smarts, after watching that punt coverage disaster. Like them or not, our YOUNG CB’s have big work to do. Bartell out there after one padded practice?
Tommy Kelly and Lamar Houston are going to have big years for us. The Raiders LB corps will become an underrated force…and the run will be addressed and tackled (pun intended).
The Raiders will be a top-7 D this season if the DB’s shape into something. If they look like last night, we’re looking at mid-20’s again. I have faith though, that DA, Tarver, et al, will get them coached-up.
Lots to be optimistic about! Like usual.
August 14th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
Those bootlegs are going to be lethal when McFadden is tearing up run Ds.
Can’t wait to draft our own Jermichael Finley next April.
August 14th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
alex7 Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
Mistic,
Pryor is not a rookie. Can’t defend him with that.
Kid has had close to 70 NFL practices by now, and by all accounts, has not improved one iota in that time.
He is who he is, an athlete who can’t pass well.
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he joined the team after the season started, and was 3rd on the depth chart. you may not know tis but the 3rd string qb doesnt get any reps in practice. he had no training camp or pre season last year either. he had no qb coach last year, and is learning a new offense for 2nd time in 2 years.
he is essentailly a rookie
August 14th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
“Luck, RGIII and Tannehill played with 1st teamers. Not a fair comparison. Thank God Pryor has wheels.”
Use some logic here guy the QB’s you mentioned all played against the first team as well. So what if Pryor has 3rd string OL he was playing against 3rd string defense.
Put Luck in there against a 3rd string defense and tell me what happens then.
Get real man think before you post!
August 14th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
Lol at Jacoby Lee Ford. Gumby cut next?
August 14th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
Luxury tax just a cost of doing business for Lakers after they signed the multibillion dollar TV deal. Only major markets like NYC, Chicago and L.A. will be able to afford the tax.
August 14th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
Tannenhill played with backups as well. Moore started for the Dolphins.
Stop the excuse making. You throw a ball 3 yards behind receivers, at their feet, don’t make multiple reads…
has nothing to do with playing with 2nd stringers.
Pryor was also going against a 3RD STRING DEFENSE.
August 14th, 2012 at 12:53 pm
“He is who he is, an athlete who can’t pass well.”
That’s the way I see it as well.
How long has he had to work on his throwing you don’t need game or practice reps to work on your passing. You need those reps for reading a defense seeing who is double covered etc.
He could have spent all off season working on his throwing motion and accuracy with anyone
August 14th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
Jacoby Lee Ford
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JLH was a better receiver AND return man than sleepy dwarf #12 !!
August 14th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
I’d hate to see TP if he HADN’T had 70 practices and an offseason devoted to fundamentals.
Is he sponsored by BubbleYum or what?
August 14th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
Mistic, the 3rd stringer gets lots of reps in practice running scout team offense.
Lots of opportunities to ACCURATELY THROW NFL PASSES.
Do you really think there’s a legit NFL QB who looked that clueless after 10 months on the job, regardless of whether he was 2nd or 3rd string?
August 14th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
Ford, Seymour & Branch = scholarships
at least McClain is earning his keep, it appears!
August 14th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
Hell you could put up a tire in your back yard and work on your throwing accuracy.
August 14th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
Is he sponsored by BubbleYum or what?
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Big League Chew!
August 14th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
446. I think tp is yrs away, but to be fair by all accounts he does get better every day..
August 14th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
Dmac stays healthy this team will do well. Unfortunately Denver and K.C. will not be easy wins.
RE: Jacoby Ford. Ever since CP came in and immediately started to pine about how great DMoore can be as receiver, Ford has changed his attitude toward this qb and his team. He got his “feeling hurt”. He needs to grow up and start playing like a professional football player or ReggieMac needs to move him out. His indifferent attitude is really annoying and detrimental to the moral of this team. Not going after the long ball that was intercepted; and then dropping two back-to-back great passes that were in his hands indicates that he is not in harmony with the CP. I think it is because he is still pouting about CP comments. He lost the S.D. game for us when he dropped that critical 1st down pass because he did not GO AFTER IT. I am extremely disappointed in him because he has the potential.
August 14th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
Jacoby Lee Ford
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JLH was a better receiver AND return man than sleepy dwarf #12 !!
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Agree with you as a receiver and punt return guy. But Jford gets the nod as a kick returner.
August 14th, 2012 at 12:59 pm
Better every day? Then he’ll be a starter by the time Mark Davis has an eternal flame.
August 14th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
Do you know how BAD you have to be to be a 3rd-string QB in this league?
You have guys like Kolb STARTING, then another 32 backups worse than him, then Pryor.
August 14th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
Jford gets the nod as a kick returner.
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@Debo
Jeff Demps could be the answer at backup RB & KR!
unfortunately, Ford & Goodson have no trade value
August 14th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
a salary cap is a way of bringing parity to a league with too many teams.. Share your $$ and ratings with loser teams yay!
August 14th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 11:58 am
@ Mistic
Palmer isn’t perfect, but he’s BY FAR the best qb we have !!
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I think this depends on what is meant when you use the word “best”
palmer is clearly the most polished and should be the starter for the time being. however i dont know if he is the most talented qb, i think pryor is in that conversation. i dont know if palmer has a higher ceiling than pryor either. Palmer has proven to be your 6-9 win wild card playoff loser of a qb, this will be his legacy it appears. We dont know how good t.p can be yet. he should get 95% of the pre season snaps form here on out, lets not waste snaps on proven commodities like the qbs ahead of him
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Great idea genius. Let’s not give the team that is actually going to play this year any preseason practice so that our 3rd string QB can play. Dude, you might be the biggest troll on here!!
August 14th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
Get real man think before you post!
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LMFAO!LMFOA!LMFAO!LMFOA!
What a moronic statement. Half of Pryor’s plays were caused by line breakdowns. Granted he is not as developed as Luck or RGIII but my views are just as valid as yours.
August 14th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
469. Are you saying he’s the 65th best qb in the nfl?
im thinking disagree..
August 14th, 2012 at 1:06 pm
All in all, though, TP looked better than Condo. And he makes a lot less.
August 14th, 2012 at 1:06 pm
Raidernationdave Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
Pryor could be the answer in 2013 folks
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The word delusional comes to mind.
August 14th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
Id cut back on tps reps after friday.. Get the qbs ready for the season..
August 14th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
Pryor did ok last night considering he hadn’t played a down (and you can scratch that false start penalty last year) in 20 months! Yes, he still looks like a work in progress, but he will either work it or lose his job!
August 14th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
To be fair, Ford was a, what, 5th round pick?
If he had incredible hands, he would have been a DeSean Jackson-esque 1st rounder.
August 14th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
478.hwnrdr Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
Pryor did ok last night considering he hadn’t played a down (and you can scratch that false start penalty last year) in 20 months! Yes, he still looks like a work in progress, but he will either work it or lose his job!
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Finally a real evaluation of Pryor last night.
August 14th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
JB Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 1:06 pm
Raidernationdave Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
Pryor could be the answer in 2013 folks
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The word delusional comes to mind.
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Not sure if that was RaidernationDave’s or Mistic1 Tha Supavillain’s observation. Whoever it was, there’s not a chance of a TP starting role in Oakland in 2013, 2014 or 2015. If anything, he’ll be a TE or WR assuming he can catch. Otherwise, just another project that never had a chance. As far as a comparison to Tebow, he’s not even close to Tebow’s skill set and Tebow’s skill set is terrible as a QB.
August 14th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
Jackson was drafted in the second round (49th overall)
August 14th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
Be honest…weren’t we all cringing when DMAC took his first hit?
August 14th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
Jacoby Ford was drafted by the Oakland Raiders in Round 4 with the 108th pick overall
August 14th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
again all of this tearing down of a rookie in his first nfl action is mind boggling. Most rookie qbs look like that in their first live nfl game!
yet people turn a blind eye to a ten year vet throwing a rookie pick in the opening series?!?
what a kick in the nuts
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Mystic, you are still pissed because of the Campbell fiasco. Get over it. Palmer didn’t cause that. Palmer is an excellent QB and will prove that this year.
August 14th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
Be honest…weren’t we all cringing when DMAC took his first hit?
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no but after that empty backfield set and he catches the pass i was like, I have seen enough, get him the hell out of here.
August 14th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 12:53 pm
“He is who he is, an athlete who can’t pass well.”
That’s the way I see it as well.
How long has he had to work on his throwing you don’t need game or practice reps to work on your passing. You need those reps for reading a defense seeing who is double covered etc.
He could have spent all off season working on his throwing motion and accuracy with anyone
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alex7 Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
Mistic, the 3rd stringer gets lots of reps in practice running scout team offense.
Lots of opportunities to ACCURATELY THROW NFL PASSES.
Do you really think there’s a legit NFL QB who looked that clueless after 10 months on the job, regardless of whether he was 2nd or 3rd string?
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1. accuracy suffers when you are learning a new offense, because you are not sure about what you are seeing or where your own guys will be. he also looked very rushed and looked a bit tentative trying to avoid picks. On top of that the rust factor of not plying football showed up. These also will affect accuracy. as he learns the offense and gets comfortable with the playing time he is allotted he will improve his accuracy.
2. running the scout team means you are simulating the other teams offense, not running your own. he hast had the reps he needs running this offense to accurately asses his game.
Foe his limited practice reps, and coming off the longest period of inactivity of his young career and being a rookie, i think 8-15 50 yards passing and 22 yards rushing were all every encouraging signs.’
Most of all he showed he will make the right read and protect the football. Something palmer has yet to figure out.
August 14th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
Even with the poor oline play PRYOR gets a fail. He will however improve over the next few Practice games.
August 14th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
To be fair, Ford was a, what, 5th round pick?
If he had incredible hands, he would have been a DeSean Jackson-esque 1st rounder.
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true Alex
Ford was a 4th rounder, drafted for speed
August 14th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
I cring every time.dmac gets hit.. Captan Amazing is our whole season..
Pls dont play dmac again da…
August 14th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
Hey fckr! Go back where you got that and don’t misquote me again. I DIDN’Y SAY THAT BIATCH!
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JB Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 1:06 pm
Raidernationdave Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
Pryor could be the answer in 2013 folks
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The word delusional comes to mind.
August 14th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
I do not want to see Darrren MacFadden take another snap in the presea.
August 14th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
420.J Hill Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
ou also thought DVD had a good game…..and that the lakers should keep Bynum over Dwight….smh
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There you go with the Buhhllshhiiddd again.
I said I wasn’t willing to bend over and take it up the wahzoo for Howard like you were willing to do. Wasn’t giving up Bynum AND Gasol OR wasn’t taking on their junk contracts. YOU panicked and bashed Buss Jr, LOL. Called him all types of names, and now he’s your best friend, LOL!
I asked you how giving up a couple of 8 yd pass completions = a bad game? Because you have no answer means I think he had a good game?
allrighteethen
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Jhill, everyone knew DVD had a bad game last night, the coach even came out and said as much….no need for me to break it down for you if you are that slow.
As to the Lakers…..pffffft, I have always said Jim Buss Jr. is my HERO!!!!!!!
Okay, that was a lie……but my fears have been alleviated.
August 14th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
SaintKaufman Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 11:58 am
@ Mistic
Palmer isn’t perfect, but he’s BY FAR the best qb we have !!
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I think this depends on what is meant when you use the word “best”
palmer is clearly the most polished and should be the starter for the time being. however i dont know if he is the most talented qb, i think pryor is in that conversation. i dont know if palmer has a higher ceiling than pryor either. Palmer has proven to be your 6-9 win wild card playoff loser of a qb, this will be his legacy it appears. We dont know how good t.p can be yet. he should get 95% of the pre season snaps form here on out, lets not waste snaps on proven commodities like the qbs ahead of him
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Great idea genius. Let’s not give the team that is actually going to play this year any preseason practice so that our 3rd string QB can play. Dude, you might be the biggest troll on here!!
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UMmmmm maybe you dont watch much football, but your starting qb rarely plays more than 2 series in most pre season games. so when palmer exits let pryor take the reigns for the remainder of that game. Lienart doesnt need the game reps, as he already knows this offense, having played in it last year.
August 14th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
I agree with 492. Shut him down!
August 14th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
Thec Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
Even with the poor oline play PRYOR gets a fail. He will however improve over the next few Practice games.
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why is 8-15 for 50 yards & 6 rushes for 22 yards (and 2 first downs )a fail for a rookie qb seeing his first real game action a fail?
August 14th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
Be honest…weren’t we all cringing when DMAC took his first hit?
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@BSJ
was that you on the field, wearing a white #54 jersey last night?
BSJ = Bruce Carter ??
August 14th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
Before the int, the team looked unstoppable. Dalla$$ had no answer for the O serving up vannilla. You guys should be encouraged.
August 14th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
ok some maybe letting their palmer worship affect how they judge the rookie.
August 14th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
Pryor himself said he played like dog crap. First game was a fail. He had a full offseason and worked out with Carson Palmer over the winter. All that work and this is what it looks like? Any way to slice it that’s a FAIL.
August 14th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
Vic Tafur@VicTafur
“@jtommy22: do you feel any animosity between Ford and Palmer @ TC?” >> not even close. Just off night for Ford
August 14th, 2012 at 1:25 pm
Jerry McDonald@Jerrymcd
Raiders’ Terrelle Pryor’s `dog crap’ self-assessment fair, but to say `everyone else played great’ is way over the top.
August 14th, 2012 at 1:25 pm
From PFT:
One of the men tasked with protecting Peyton Manning will miss more than a month for the Broncos.
Right guard Chris Kuper broke his forearm during a drill at Tuesday’s practice. Mike Klis of the Denver Post reports that Kuper will miss six weeks while he recuperates, a time frame that would keep him out of the first three regular season games.
August 14th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
Jerry McDonald@Jerrymcd
Wasn’t stunned by Pryor’s passing issues. Have seen them in camp. Was surprised he went down pretty easily by single tackler once or twice
August 14th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
Hopefully it’s like a pitcher trying things out in the preseason with Palmer but I don’t think so. Mistic might have been right all along about Palmer. Our corners look awful. LB’s were a pleasant surprise. Our receivers should be a strength didn’t look that way. Maybe DHB and Plaxico out wide with Moore in the slot?
August 14th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
Jerry McDonald@Jerrymcd
With a long way to go, conundrum in Pryor’s development is as Jon Gruden described _ CBA doesn’t allow a lot of extra work.
August 14th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
Brandon Tierney@BrandonTierney
just watched replay of Palmer’s INT again, in slow mo, 3 times. That was on the money, Ford has to fight for the rock! Perfect throw.
August 14th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
Thec Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
Even with the poor oline play PRYOR gets a fail. He will however improve over the next few Practice games.
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why is 8-15 for 50 yards & 6 rushes for 22 yards (and 2 first downs )a fail for a rookie qb seeing his first real game action a fail?
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Personally for me he did not LEAD the MEN. Missed a lot of open Wr’s, appeared nervous, happy feet on most throws, did not instill any confidence, poor decisions made.
Just my opinion however, I want the guy to succeed, and if you read the rest of my post he will improve.
August 14th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
Notice how Pryor’s int is conveniently omitted by the person who stated “it is never ok no matter when or where it happens on the field”.
August 14th, 2012 at 1:28 pm
UMmmmm maybe you dont watch much football, but your starting qb rarely plays more than 2 series in most pre season games. so when palmer exits let pryor take the reigns for the remainder of that game. Lienart doesnt need the game reps, as he already knows this offense, having played in it last year.
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Dude,
you should stop while you’re behind.
2 series for most games?? Man, you are gonna be really surprised these next couple of weeks.
I guess that’s what happens when you bury your head in the sand. :\
August 14th, 2012 at 1:28 pm
Brandon Tierney@BrandonTierney
The evidence: money throw, on the hands. HC Dennis Allen joins #TheDrive, so I will ask him directly @957thegame http://pic.twitter.com/L5xyfvD9
August 14th, 2012 at 1:28 pm
exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 1:25 pm
From PFT:
One of the men tasked with protecting Peyton Manning will miss more than a month for the Broncos.
Right guard Chris Kuper broke his forearm during a drill at Tuesday’s practice. Mike Klis of the Denver Post reports that Kuper will miss six weeks while he recuperates, a time frame that would keep him out of the first three regular season games.
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f@k manning, and kuper
August 14th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
f@k manning, kuper, and phil rivers
August 14th, 2012 at 1:30 pm
Just to be clear, I have absolutely no animosity whatsoever with Pryor. I hope he does great things for us. He is Raider, ‘nough said!
August 14th, 2012 at 1:30 pm
alex7 Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
To be fair, Ford was a, what, 5th round pick?
If he had incredible hands, he would have been a DeSean Jackson-esque 1st rounder.
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Wrong. At this point, as a starting WR in the NFL, it no longer matters where one was drafted.
Jacoby Lee Ford has shown incredible hands, and a knack for getting the ball (and holding it)…that’s why he’s starting.
I expect the same kind of ability to catch the ball from all starting WR’s — meaning, they all should be relied upon to catch the ball, more than worried about for dropping it.
Much like Louis Murphy…I cringe, and worry about Ford’s hands every time he’s the target. I worry more about Jacoby Lee Ford now than I do for DHB, and way more than for DeMoore.
Jacoby needs to watch over his shoulder at WR…at the big rookies who want his job. He’d be a great #4 WR, while handling kick and punt team duties. Of course, I’d prefer if he played as well as we need and expect him to…but I’m all about whoever can do the job best being the starter. Much more of the Jacoby Lee Ford act, and his future as a starter will fade away with his missed chances.
August 14th, 2012 at 1:31 pm
f@k manning, kuper, and phil rivers
BAWW HAW HAWWWW
August 14th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
Jacoby needs to watch over his shoulder at WR
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Yep. plenty of guys on this current squad that can sit him down.
He needs to step his game waaaaayyyyyy up and Lead by example. its only one practice game however, he f2ked up big time all day.
August 14th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
494. Liono played in texas last yr. He did not play in our offense.. He needs the reps more than tp..
August 14th, 2012 at 1:34 pm
“accuracy suffers when you are learning a new offense, ”
But Palmer cannot use this as an excuse?
“Most of all he showed he will make the right read and protect the football. Something palmer has yet to figure out.”
Sorry but you wrong here only Manning is better at making reads at the LOS than Palmer the guys very good at making reads at the LOS just sit back and watch him take command of the no huddle.
August 14th, 2012 at 1:34 pm
inonewordraider Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
Maybe DHB and Plaxico out wide with Moore in the slot?
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I don’t see that happening but I could see DHB and D-wow out wide with Streater in the slot.
August 14th, 2012 at 1:35 pm
Well, based on that tweet…I guess it was perfectly thrown…gotta watch the replay!
And yes, I was being sarcastic, but if I see it and it is, then I will change my stance! Still…
August 14th, 2012 at 1:36 pm
realtruraider Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
Brandon Tierney@BrandonTierney
just watched replay of Palmer’s INT again, in slow mo, 3 times. That was on the money, Ford has to fight for the rock! Perfect throw.
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I was there and that’s the way it appeared to me both live and later on taped replay. Ford had a bad day period.
August 14th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
DeMoore’s hammy is a bigger worry than Jacoby Ford’s hands at this point. Ford’s hands can be fixed by Friday.
August 14th, 2012 at 1:39 pm
I am sure Reggie and Dennis are just looking at Pryor as a cheap 3rd string QB for this year, who, unless he starts to look at least like a serviceable backup QB by the end of the season, will be either cut or told to switch to TE in the offseason.
Just a wasted 3rd round pick on a team that could have gotten a decent starter on the line, or LBer, by a guy who didn’t know QBs very well….how many good QBs did Al draft over his last oh, I don’t know, 35 years?
August 14th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
A perfect throw would’ve been released earlier, before the Safety read & reacted to the play. But, the INT should’ve been avoided by Jacoby either catching, or deflecting, the ball.
August 14th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
But then theres this
Vic Tafur@VicTafur
Cowboys safety Gerald Sensabaugh on Carson Palmer INT Monday night: “I just got a good read on the quarterback. He overthrew him.”
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Not sure exactly what happend, to me Ford looks like he could of made the catch, but I think Palmer shouldn’t of even thrown that pass
August 14th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
I know this may sound crazy to some, but what Ford needs to do is slow down, concentrate and stop playing so fast. He does not look to be in rythm at all. He needs to go back to the fundamentals of catch the ball first, secure, then run!
Sounds simple enough but that is really what he needs to do. He is looking up field to make the play before he secures the ball.
Now the worse play he made was jogging to make a tackle on an INT, unless the coaches told him to stay clear because of his injuries.
August 14th, 2012 at 1:43 pm
Here are a few things I saw from last night, in no particular order. I’m sure this has all been talked about all day, but its my turn
Offense:
1. A healthy Darren McFadden is a top 3 back in the NFL. If the dude ever manages 16 games he will have exceed 2500 all purpose yards.
2. Right read by Palmer on the INT, but he over threw it, not by much though. Ford should have fought for it, he could have at least deflected it.
3. Ford needs to get his head out of his a$$ and become more focused. Take some lessons from DHB on how to be an NFL player.
4. Pryor looked bad. Very bad. BUT he had very little time in the pocket, our 3rd team oline looked absolutely awful, those guys arent making the team though. I would like to TP run with the 2nd team oline for a drive or 2 Friday.
5. Leinart looked like a very capable backup, and the 2nd team OLine looked pretty good.
Defense:
1. Our DLine, if they play with that much focus all year, is going to wreak havoc on opponents.
2. Phil Wheeler looked a HELL of a lot better than Wimbley. I truly believe he is an upgrade there.Our LB’s as a unit were a pleasant surprise last night, after all the talk about how bad they are gonna be, and how thin we are there.
3. Secondary didn’t look horrible, nice coverage for the most part (DVD didn’t live up to the hype he has gotten thus far) Bartell got beat by Dez on a play that is almost impossible to defend. They need some work, but they played better than advertised IMO.
4. That was the best tackling I have seen as team in as long as I can remember. Form tackling, wrap and drive your man to the turf, and get 11 hats on the ball. That is the #1 improvement I see over last year.
Spec Teams:
Ford looked terrible, gotta think King is holding wrong for both kickers to miss relatively easy kicks, both missing wide right.
Happy about the penalties. We played a fairly disciplined game. We allowed 202 yards and 3 points, and that is pretty much enough to win 99 times out of 100. Excited to see the game Friday, and see how we adjust and improve.
August 14th, 2012 at 1:43 pm
526.realtruraider Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
But then theres this
Vic Tafur@VicTafur
Cowboys safety Gerald Sensabaugh on Carson Palmer INT Monday night: “I just got a good read on the quarterback. He overthrew him.”
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Not sure exactly what happend, to me Ford looks like he could of made the catch, but I think Palmer shouldn’t of even thrown that pass
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Let me help! Palmer should not have thrown that pass. Ford is fast but he was covered.
August 14th, 2012 at 1:44 pm
Plus every safety in the league knows they can hang back and wait for Palmer to throw two or three up for grabs a game. He did the same thing in Cincy! No hate, just facts!
August 14th, 2012 at 1:44 pm
Dakota Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 1:39 pm
I am sure Reggie and Dennis are just looking at Pryor as a cheap 3rd string QB for this year, who, unless he starts to look at least like a serviceable backup QB by the end of the season, will be either cut or told to switch to TE in the offseason.
Just a wasted 3rd round pick on a team that could have gotten a decent starter on the line, or LBer, by a guy who didn’t know QBs very well….how many good QBs did Al draft over his last oh, I don’t know, 35 years?
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Dakota, comon man!! let’s give him some time. He had no QB coach last year, and he knows science and math, he is good to go. Let’s be patient(grin) LOL.
August 14th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
No 99 was playing with a lot of fire yesterday. He looks to be in good shape and ready for the season.
August 14th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
“Let me help!”
Ford is not going to have many balls thrown his way if he does not aggressively go after them if that were D Moore he would have went up for the ball and came down with it or batted it down negating the INT.
So many QB’s throw the ball down field into double coverage in confidence that the receiver will go up for the ball (See Detroit Lions) but if your WR is going to play with alligator arms then your right don’t even throw the ball.
Lets be real here Palmer is trying to build confidence between himself and the wide outs by putting the ball up there he is trusting that the WR will at least make a play on the ball.
August 14th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
3. Ford needs to get his head out of his a$$ and become more focused. Take some lessons from DHB on how to be an NFL player.
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He should be ashamed of how he played. hopefully this performance will bring out more dedication and focus.
August 14th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
But then theres this
Vic Tafur@VicTafur
Cowboys safety Gerald Sensabaugh on Carson Palmer INT Monday night: “I just got a good read on the quarterback. He overthrew him.”
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Not very difficult to overthrow Gary Coleman. Maybe Sensebaugh trying to protect Jacoby. Who cares, just one play. We have a very solid team with our new defense and an offense with all our regulars out there.
August 14th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
@ HD37 # 515
to be fair, Ford is only starting because DMo17 is hurt. I dont consider him a “starting calibur player”
I think he’d already be below Criner & Streater on the depth chart if he was a rookie, like they are.
2 years experience gives him the upper hand, but it wont last long if he continues to play like he did last night!
August 14th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
CJ Legend 34 Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 1:43 pm
526.realtruraider Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
But then theres this
Vic Tafur@VicTafur
Cowboys safety Gerald Sensabaugh on Carson Palmer INT Monday night: “I just got a good read on the quarterback. He overthrew him.”
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Not sure exactly what happend, to me Ford looks like he could of made the catch, but I think Palmer shouldn’t of even thrown that pass
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Let me help! Palmer should not have thrown that pass. Ford is fast but he was covered.
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I haven’t watched the replay since last night, but Im pretty sure he had his guy beat and the saftey made a good paly breaking on the ball, I will watch later. Im just going by these tweets and they are to totally different opinions, much like on here about that play, so I will judge for myself once I watch it again in slo mo
August 14th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
Let me help! Palmer should not have thrown that pass. Ford is fast but he was covered.
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When Palmer made the read Ford had a step on his man, the CB recovered very well. It was man coverage single high safety, and lets face it Sensebaugh is not a world class safety, he made an outstanding read and got there in time. The ball wasn’t overthrown that badly, Ford SHOULD have gotten a hand on it. DHB or Moore would have.
August 14th, 2012 at 1:55 pm
Do we have any news from the org regarding injuries?
August 14th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
Palmer=Swede! Ford=Smurf
August 14th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
Sure Dell, like I said, he will have the rest of the season…..because he is a cheap 3rd string QB.
He will not get much work with the coaches this season, because they know what he is, and they have to make sure Palmer and Leinart are ready. So really, as it has been over the past 12 months, the work he needs to do will be on his own time. He will either hire a QB coach and work on it on his own time, or he will choose to play PS3 or Xbox and disappear.
Maybe he has a QB coach now, I know he worked with George Whitfield jr prior to the supp draft, but I have not heard that he has anyone helping him now….and if what we saw last night was Pryor WITH the help of a QB coach, then might as well cut him now lol.
August 14th, 2012 at 2:00 pm
“When Palmer made the read Ford had a step on his man, the CB recovered very well. It was man coverage single high safety, and lets face it Sensebaugh is not a world class safety, he made an outstanding read and got there in time. The ball wasn’t overthrown that badly, Ford SHOULD have gotten a hand on it. DHB or Moore would have.”
FINALLY some one with logic and common sense!!
Exactly if it were Moore that ball would have been caught or batted down.
Everyone wants to crucify Palmer for what…..so Matt Leinart can start?
August 14th, 2012 at 2:01 pm
Not very difficult to overthrow Gary Coleman
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LOL @ 504!
August 14th, 2012 at 2:03 pm
If you watch Palmers helmet on that int, I don’t think he ever looked the safety off. Palmer should not be making that kind of mistake at this point in his career.
One glance to the other side of the field and that safety would have been nowhere near the ball to make that int and it would have been nothing but a long incompletion imo.
But those shots are worth the risk…..
August 14th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
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August 14th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
Glad Big Mac and The General are running the team and not you people.
August 14th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
Soooooooooooooo,
Based on Palmer’s career averages against all 2012 opponents(just threw cincy the avg for the other 15 because he has never played them) Palmer would fall like this….
QBrat – 84
TD’s – 28
Int’s – 16 (would be 13 if the first 2 games of last year omitted!)
QBrat would be much higher also without those 2 games.
Just sayin’
August 14th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
If Jason Campbell had tried to make that throw, sure it would not have been intercepted, but it would have been thrown 5 yards out of bounds with our player having ZERO chance to make a play on the ball.
Right Mistic1?
August 14th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
Palmer is our QB and a huge upgrade over anything we’ve had here in 10 years. Don’t like it, get off at the next station and catch another train.
August 14th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
” Don’t like it, get off at the next station and catch another train.”
You nailed it!
August 14th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
Can anyone disagree with this statement right now?
“Jamarcus Russell on sizzrup is better than Terrel Pryor sober!”
August 14th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
The Big Banana Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
Glad Big Mac and The General are running the team and not you people.
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Truth
August 14th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
551.ddsman Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
Can anyone disagree with this statement right now?
“Jamarcus Russell on sizzrup is better than Terrel Pryor sober!”
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Sad, but true lol.
August 14th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
Dakota
This year I am the FF king you will have a hard time beating me like you did last year buddy, you better tell your team to wear Kevlar when you play me!
August 14th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
Although, Pryor can avoid sacks better than JaLardazz.
August 14th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
of course it matters where you were drafted IF you still play to that level.
Ford was a 4th rounder because scouts had issues with his hands, despite his blazing speed.
So to expect him to not drop passes and play like a #1 WR..
August 14th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
SaintKaufman Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 11:58 am
@ Mistic
Palmer isn’t perfect, but he’s BY FAR the best qb we have !!
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I think this depends on what is meant when you use the word “best”
palmer is clearly the most polished and should be the starter for the time being. however i dont know if he is the most talented qb, i think pryor is in that conversation. i dont know if palmer has a higher ceiling than pryor either. Palmer has proven to be your 6-9 win wild card playoff loser of a qb, this will be his legacy it appears. We dont know how good t.p can be yet. he should get 95% of the pre season snaps form here on out, lets not waste snaps on proven commodities like the qbs ahead of him
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Great idea genius. Let’s not give the team that is actually going to play this year any preseason practice so that our 3rd string QB can play. Dude, you might be the biggest troll on here!!
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UMmmmm maybe you dont watch much football, but your starting qb rarely plays more than 2 series in most pre season games. so when palmer exits let pryor take the reigns for the remainder of that game. Lienart doesnt need the game reps, as he already knows this offense, having played in it last year.
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You serious? total ignorance.
Starter will get likely 4 series next week, and play possibly into the 3rd qtr week 3, depending on play.
And did you really just say the backup qb, the guy who will take over for the starter, if he goes down, shouldn’t get preseason reps? Because HE KNOWS THE OFFENSE?
Just go in, cold? Stupid comment.
Besides, it’s Lienart. He needs all the reps he can possibly get. Obviously you’ve never seen him play.
August 14th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
If Jason Campbell had tried to make that throw, sure it would not have been intercepted, but it would have been thrown 5 yards out of bounds with our player having ZERO chance to make a play on the ball.
Right Mistic1?
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No, Dakota. throw wouldn’t have been as pretty, but would have netted the same result
go re-watch the Patriots game from last year. Ford streaking down the sideline, JCamp throws a 40 yarder from his own endzone. Smurfman makes zero attempt to make a play on the football or go into defensive back mode. Result = interception
August 14th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
666,
I generally lose my best player to injuries late in the season…..last year it was AP…..so I am thinking about drafting Philip Rivers, Peyton Manning and a bunch of KC Chief offensive players…..maybe Denver’s defense too.
I will jinx the fk out of our division.
August 14th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
Dakoa,
Reasonable reply to comment #541, and very sensible solution to solve a potential problem.
You must have good science and math skills, bless you for being you.
Jhill says anyone worth their salt can coach the lAKERS,I disagree.
August 14th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
Dakota Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
Although, Pryor can avoid sacks better than JaLardazz.
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Couldn’t pretty much anyone who wasn’t a lineman avoid sacks better than that blob?
August 14th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
Palmer did nothing to look off the safety… Bad throw into coverage.. Check down. Its the wco.. Thats what you do..
August 14th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
Sooooooooooo,
Based on all my nerdy extrapolating of and placing -n in place of the McFadden/passing league/new rules/Oline logarithmic base I deduce that Carson Frickin Palmer will finish the season with:
4457 yds
31 TD’s
15 int’s
…..and 12 WINS MUTHAS!!!
August 14th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
Raider Dell Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
Dakoa,
bless you for being you.
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bless you for being you???
I’m embarrassed for you.
It’s your right, being a woman, to post that silly crap, but still.
Just saying.
August 14th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
Comon guy,s Terrell Pryor is just one Quarterbacks coach from starting next year.
He needs reps, and it’s only time in the system before he beats out Palmer.
August 14th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
I agree with you Bcz. Especially D point #4. I liked the D even when they got down to guys not gunna make the 53. Hamilton looked pretty solid against their reserves.
Not that worried about Ford. He had a terrible game, hopefully doesn’t hurt his confidence too much.
Ford played MUCH worse than Pryor who looked fairly bad but I am willing to cut the kid a little slack. Curious to see how he responds on Friday….
Not worried about the kickers either. Lechler’s leg will be healed soon I hope.
I am however VERY worried about Jon Condo. I can’t sleep at night with that kind of performance being turned in by the long snapper. Better get his head on straight….
August 14th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
542. It wasnt a pass to moore or dhb… It was to smurf… Bad decision by cp3…
August 14th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
560.Raider Dell Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
Dakoa,
Reasonable reply to comment #541, and very sensible solution to solve a potential problem.
You must have good science and math skills, bless you for being you.
Jhill says anyone worth their salt can coach the lAKERS,I disagree.
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Science and Math are my specialty! I love adding and subtracting and I love those volcanoes we used to make back in grade school with vinegar and baking soda. Woot!
As to someone being worth their salt, well has Mike Brown even reached that level of competency? Would the Roman army have believed Mike Brown was a soldier worth the salt it took to keep him alive?
Questionable in my mind.
August 14th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
The Big Banana Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
Palmer is our QB and a huge upgrade over anything we’ve had here in 10 years. Don’t like it, get off at the next station and catch another train.
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That’s why this team has sucked for so long.
Too many people like you.
Just accept whatever is there, because you are told to.
August 14th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
565.lol good one..
August 14th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
Dakota, comon man!! let’s give him some time. He had no QB coach last year, and he knows science and math, he is good to go. Let’s be patient(grin) LOL.
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He also has $$$, do you have $$?
LMAO
You People……
August 14th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
Dell good to see you in here during the day it was nice chatting with you this weekend.
August 14th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
DeFilipo has been working with the QBs. I suspect he’s worked with TP plenty. Time will tell with that (or all) kid….
August 14th, 2012 at 2:28 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
Dell good to see you in here during the day it was nice chatting with you this weekend.
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have you ever been to a blues show were dwight Smith played? I saw him recently and whatever happened to his blues pedigree. His music was twang with blues as a side show.
August 14th, 2012 at 2:28 pm
@569, so the Raiders have sucked for 10+ years and 10 before Chucky, because Raider fans have been loyal?
Funny I thought it was because Al Davis mismanaged the team….
August 14th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
TP’s salary: $465,000
NFL player min salary with 0 years: $355,000
Vet’s (3 years +) min salary is around $600,000.
I know a lot of you lack math skills, but this is not rocket science.
August 14th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
So who’s the front runners for MUP as of today? Streater, Burris??
August 14th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
The UFA’s outplayed our drafted players. Streater over Criner, Kilgore over Burris, etc
IM thinking since we have a defensive minded coach, our D is going to be top 10 this year hopefully. They played tought, only 3 points scored, future looks good.
On the other side, we might have problems with Knaps offense and Palmer’s picks.
Jacoby Ford has no business starting as a WR.
We definetely need depth at RB.
We can run the ball.
August 14th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
573.JLofty Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
DeFilipo has been working with the QBs. I suspect he’s worked with TP plenty. Time will tell with that (or all) kid….
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I think the NFL rules prohibit a player working out with a coach in the offseason unless they are at some ota’s or TC.
If Pryor wants to be an nfl QB, he needs to hire a full time QB coach to work on his schyyyyyyyyty game full-time.
If he hasn’t done that already, he is idiotic.
The other POS QB that gets way too much attention…..Tim Teblow….we know he hires people to try and help him make throws. If Pryor doesn’t or hasn’t made that much effort, then his goose is cooked.
Better start watching those TE drills closely Pryor.
August 14th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
No way, Kilgore played well, but wasn’t running with the starters.
August 14th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
“have you ever been to a blues show were dwight Smith played? I saw him recently and whatever happened to his blues pedigree. His music was twang with blues as a side show.”
Yeah i just saw him a few weeks ago at the Gilroy Garlic Festival he was smoking hot guitar player and he looked like he just got off his tractor!
August 14th, 2012 at 2:33 pm
I won’t disagree with you Dakota.
We could the kid at TE…
August 14th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
“have you ever been to a blues show were dwight Smith played? I saw him recently and whatever happened to his blues pedigree. His music was twang with blues as a side show.”
Yeah i just saw him a few weeks ago at the Gilroy Garlic Festival he was smoking hot guitar player and he looked like he just got off his tractor!
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They have a Blue’s cruise, ever gone. I haven’t but I bet it would be fun hearing different bands each nite.
August 14th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
Palmer is not the problem…if you think he is, you obviously have a low football IQ and should leaving for your shift at Wendy’s soon.
The only real problem we have is “being new”. Guys: New Coaches, New Players, New Formations, New offense, New Defense, New Front Office. Look at the most successful teams in the league:
Q: What do they all have in common?
A: A tenured cohesive environment
We need time to develop the talent, strategy, playbook etc and it won’t come right away. We can over analyze that horrible game last night, but its meaningless. The the truth is that we are a young, hungry team with good talent in the right spots and the ability to be disruptive. We just need to let this thing get baked before we rip out every coach and start again, like every other year. If McFadden can stay healthy and we can start catching the ball, I think we get better over the season…who knows!?!?
August 14th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
Some of you are too ignorant to understand the difference between facts and excuses.
-We didnt have a QB coach last year. Even Palmer complained that it was a difficult situation with Hue being too busy and bot having a QB coach, but we expect a young guy who needs development to be fine?
- TP didn’t play in a game in almost 2 years.
Those ate facts, but I’m not surprised some of you can not tell the difference.
If you can’t understand simple math, then this may seen like rocket science to you.
Do you have $$$$?
August 14th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
Did Huff play CB/ NB yesterday?
August 14th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
Some guys hold on to that Blues influence and others stray from it when they have a glimmer of success thinking that it will help them draw a broader audience.
But if I am going to see Tommy Castro I know what I am getting!!
August 14th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
T Pryor has no business being a QB in the NFL, even at 3rd string. He was a Al Davis development type player pick.
Last nite its obvious he needs to learn the position. You do that in college not in the NFL, not at the QB position.
We need a better 3rd stringer, Im guessing Palmer will go down eventually, and Leinart has proven to be injury prone.
August 14th, 2012 at 2:40 pm
“Palmer is not the problem…if you think he is, you obviously have a low football IQ and should leaving for your shift at Wendy’s soon.”
Finally the voice of reason.
August 14th, 2012 at 2:40 pm
A very sloppy game to over-analyze guys.
To see the defense play with energy and discipline should have you all excited.
The offense will be fine … the penalties were few and the run game was stopped and the QB was pressured.
All our biggest weaknessed last year.
McFadden looked ELITE against one of the best D-coordinators ever
August 14th, 2012 at 2:40 pm
“They have a Blue’s cruise, ever gone. I haven’t but I bet it would be fun hearing different bands each nite.”
Man that sounds like fun do you have a link I would consider going.
August 14th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
Some guys hold on to that Blues influence and others stray from it when they have a glimmer of success thinking that it will help them draw a broader audience.
But if I am going to see Tommy Castro I know what I am getting!!
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You’re right. I went to the Garlic festival many years ago and had garlic ice cream, and a few other tasty treats. the ice cream was different but not to gross. When i went it was hot, and the woman were too.
August 14th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
Well DA thinks Ford could of helped Carson out a lil bit on that int play, Im a fan of Ford but he better step his game up on Friday or he might find himself on the sidelines more than he would like to be
August 14th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
I see Tommy Castro is on the Blues Cruise.
August 14th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
Lakers just traded Jordan Hill, Mike Brown, a future 2nd round pick and cash to the Spurs for Tim Duncan, Tony Parker and Greg Popovich.
Nice move Kokchap!
August 14th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
SNB666
bluescruise.com
Entertainers bobby rush,tommy castro, and others.
August 14th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
I’d have Lionheart throw a bubble-screen to Pryor, if he breaks one, can only help kid’s confidence.imo
August 14th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
Tp has talent.. Shouldnt have gone to ohio st… Killed himself with that decision…
August 14th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
586. A bit..
August 14th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
TxRaider210 Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
So who’s the front runners for MUP as of today? Streater, Burris??
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My pick is Streater! He will be in the starting line-up by season game 1. Write it down.
August 14th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
I was disapointed in our oaklanders last nite…. It sounded like a cowboy game on tv…
August 14th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
SNB666
Blues fetivals I’m probably going to, San Diego sept 22, and SF sept 29, 30
August 14th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
Lol @ 569. So I should what, put up a billboard? Lol, you don’t know Al Davis at all.
August 14th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
284.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 11:15 am
DJ Johnny Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 11:10 am
Mystic, Let’s just call it like it is. All you want to see are black QB’s and you talk ‘em up despite what any experts or analysts say about them and despite how they actually perform.
I liked JC but he’s just “a guy”. Jamarcus sucked. It is widely considered by almost everyone that he’s the biggest bust in NFL history.
Pryor may be good someday but he isn’t right now.
Talk about Cam Newton or Warren Moon or something instead of refusing to admit that it is possible for a black QB is not posessed of all world talent and accomplishments.
It actually IS possible that a black QB is not good.
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racist trash.
Pryor is showing that he does have a ton of upside. he needs game reps and I want him to succeed because of this. why do you notice the color of his skin, and not his talent
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F U buddy. YOU are the racist dik face.
You tout Jamarcus Russell, Jason Campbell and Terrelle Pryor as these great QB’s. WHY? Never seen you tout anyone else as even worthy of throwing a football…all this over the top excuses for why Russell failed, how JC is the second coming and now the greatness of Pryor. WHY IS THAT?
I am merley questioning your over the top praise of these guys cuz it doesn’t make any sense.
Warren Moon was great QB, Doug Williams won a SB, and did you notice my racist self just praised Cam Newton too? Yeah. What a racist. BTW: I loved Vince Freaking Evans too.
You are the one noticing skin color not me. Just be honest as to why you are so over the top praising ONLY black Qb’s.
August 14th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
JB Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
TxRaider210 Says:
My pick is Streater! He will be in the starting line-up by season game 1. Write it down.
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Ridiculous, he may be rotating in on plays but won’t start, unless you have him jumping Moore and DHB?
August 14th, 2012 at 2:53 pm
Game on NFLN at 9pm tonight.
August 14th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
The best thing about the game last night is that the Raiders did not look like the Raiders have always looked over the last 35 years I have been a fan. Opposing RBs were not ripping off 10 yards a pop in the second half, no 10 yard penalties on 3rd and 9, and they have a QB that seemed to be showing a ton of leadership when he was shown on the sideline helping out guys like Ford and Pryor.
August 14th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
My Pick has been Streater since the beginning of Training Camp…Unless 1 of our current starters are out w/ Injury (Hopefully Not) Streater wont crack the starting 2 but with Ford not having a great camp I can see Streater sneak up to 3wr
August 14th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
raiderinparadise Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
JB Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
TxRaider210 Says:
My pick is Streater! He will be in the starting line-up by season game 1. Write it down.
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Ridiculous, he may be rotating in on plays but won’t start, unless you have him jumping Moore and DHB?
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I see a starting WR line-up of DHB, D-Wow & Streater.
August 14th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
“Raider Dell Says:
SNB666
Blues fetivals I’m probably going to, San Diego sept 22, and SF sept 29, 30″
I will go to the SF date we should hook up for a beer.
August 14th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
Raider E Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
The best thing about the game last night is that the Raiders did not look like the Raiders have always looked over the last 35 years I have been a fan. Opposing RBs were not ripping off 10 yards a pop in the second half, no 10 yard penalties on 3rd and 9, and they have a QB that seemed to be showing a ton of leadership when he was shown on the sideline helping out guys like Ford and Pryor.
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AMEN. THATS THE TRUTH.
August 14th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
Lakers just traded Jordan Hill, Mike Brown, a future 2nd round pick and cash to the Spurs for Tim Duncan, Tony Parker and Greg Popovich.
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@Dakota
thats probably the only way you’re gonna get past them in the West!
August 14th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
I like black QBs, white WRs & DBs, and Asian basketball players.
Does that make me a racist?
August 14th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
SNB666
I will definetly let you know were to meet for a beer.
August 14th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
Burris was my MUP pick from the start of camp, seems to be handling biz out there..
August 14th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
I see a starting WR line-up of DHB, D-Wow & Streater.
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Maybe if we were opening up NEXT Monday Night….. There’s still 3 more games to go and LOTS of camp left. Streater looked great, and he’ll make the squad. In the end, I don’t really care who’s starting as long as they CATCH THE FU**ING BALL (Ford)….
I won’t jump to conclusions JUST yet though. Criner’s got time to put it together as well.
August 14th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
PurpleDrank81 Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
My Pick has been Streater since the beginning of Training Camp…Unless 1 of our current starters are out w/ Injury (Hopefully Not) Streater wont crack the starting 2 but with Ford not having a great camp I can see Streater sneak up to 3wr
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Ford has had a great camp by all accounts, he had a horrible game by all accounts too though, it could get interesting
August 14th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
Looking for a good game from TP, Criner, Ford and Goodson on Friday.
August 14th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
Mike Goodson@GoodNplenty33
It was tough watching the guys play today, wanted to be out there with my Team …… But I’ll be back for Friday!!! #RaiderNation
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Goody sounds ready
August 14th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
Yep, Goodson should impress out there imo.
August 14th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
I like Criner a lot, but AIG makes a great point. Why didn’t they throw him the ball as much as Streater? Did he have problems creating separation/ getting open? If that’s the case, then how does he get open in practice? What does that tell us about our CBs?
August 14th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
lefty12 Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
Notice how Pryor’s int is conveniently omitted by the person who stated “it is never ok no matter when or where it happens on the field”.
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not at all i have mentioned his pick that cam in desperation time on a hail mary. i dont penalize qbs with ints on hil mary attempts because you will have to force the ball as you are out of downs and time.
Outside of that desperate moment he didnt force a single pass…….but of palmer did
August 14th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
For the love of god can we stop maiing excuses for palmers picks already?!?!?
If it was a perfect pass it would have landed in fords hands, it was an errant throw and a poor read and as a result it was picked.
Just admit it and move on
August 14th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
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I think Criner just had the jitters a bit man, look for a good game in AZ from him.
August 14th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
I’ll choose to believe that Palmer’s throw was on the money, and he was testing Ford’s skills in tight coverage. Kool-aid indeed!
August 14th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
if we get off to a slow start, 0-4, 0-3,1-3 or something similar it will be time to go into full rebuild mode. I am sure we will be in full rebuild mode before this year is out. Once we are eliminated from contetnion pull the plug on palmer and evaluate pryor by giving him the rest of the starts for the year.
D.A can avoid media heat by using the fact that we are rebuilding, and need to know what we have at qb before the draft. Im afraid the clock is ticking on palmer and we know lienart is the new kyle boller, only with a much weaker arm.
August 14th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
Raider O Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
I like Criner a lot, but AIG makes a great point. Why didn’t they throw him the ball as much as Streater? Did he have problems creating separation/ getting open? If that’s the case, then how does he get open in practice? What does that tell us about our CBs?
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Has he ben getting open alot since they put on pads? I haven’t heard of him makin great plays since OTA’s, plus he should be going up against the 2nd 3rd teamers, I would hope he could make a few catches
August 14th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
How many WRs make the roster?
And whom?
August 14th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
6 should make it
Moore
DHB
Streater
Ford
Criner
McGee
August 14th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
“if we get off to a slow start, 0-4, 0-3,1-3 or something similar it will be time to go into full rebuild mode.”
Talk about a true hardcore fan who has nothing but positive thoughts about our beloved team!
Take that crap outta here man!!!
Seriously WTF!!
August 14th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
“Once we are eliminated from contetnion pull the plug on palmer and evaluate pryor by giving him the rest of the starts for the year.”
That’s a perfect example of what is NOT going to happen…the division was won by an 8-8 team last year….be real there will be no elimination we will win the division print that!!
August 14th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
TxRaider210 Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
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I think Criner just had the jitters a bit man, look for a good game in AZ from him.
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I hope so. TP too.
Go Buckeyes!
August 14th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
“if we get off to a slow start, 0-4, 0-3,1-3 or something similar it will be time to go into full rebuild mode.”
Talk about a true hardcore fan who has nothing but positive thoughts about our beloved team!
Take that crap outta here man!!!
Seriously WTF!!
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just being a realist and keeping it 100%.
we havnt made the playoffs in a decade, our qb position has been a mess for most of that time. From the way our qb played lst year 16 picks in 9 starts, and comparing that too his start in preseason it isnt encouraging.
we have a new coach a new front office and many new players, this is a rebuild. i dont see any point in starting a qb that has proven to be a turn over machine if we have a slow start. we were shut out last night palmer threw his first pick in only 3-4 pass attempts, it looks like this will be a long year.
August 14th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
If a person is Palmer, why not make a tough throw in the PRE-SEASON, he’s only trying to make himself better. If he checks down, it’s the easy way out, but does that help his game at all?
August 14th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
Mistic is just messing with you people.
Calm down.
August 14th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
“Once we are eliminated from contetnion pull the plug on palmer and evaluate pryor by giving him the rest of the starts for the year.”
That’s a perfect example of what is NOT going to happen…the division was won by an 8-8 team last year….be real there will be no elimination we will win the division print that!!
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im not so sure, the broncos and chiefs looks vastly improved. We are installing new schemes on both sides of the ball and still trying o figure out who will be a part of this team moving forward. that evaluation includes the qb.
August 14th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
A quick observation from deep in the 909…..
First team offense…..B-… McFadden is good to go….CP3…Should know better to throw into safety over top..O-line respectable…
Defense….Overall..I liked it.. 1st., 2nd, and 3rd. team did well.. Husled and made plays…
T. Pryor, needs a whole lot of 60 grit, before he’s ready for a wet sand….
The Run Away Beer Truck, made a very impressive block. Mowing his guy back 10 yards, on one run play…
Streeter is a KEEPER…
Whoever assigned #2 to the back up Punter, King. Should have to clean the heads at the Coli….
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RAIDER DELL & TRIPLE 6……
I was lucky enough, to see… The Real Deal— Buddy Guy + Johnny Lang in July, at a small venue… Buddy can still can BRING IT!!!
August 14th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
Has he ben getting open alot since they put on pads? I haven’t heard of him makin great plays since OTA’s, plus he should be going up against the 2nd 3rd teamers, I would hope he could make a few catches
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I thought so. According to Corky, he was still making plays in TC.
August 14th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
if we get off to a slow start, 0-4, 0-3,1-3 or something similar it will be time to go into full rebuild mode. I am sure we will be in full rebuild mode before this year is out. Once we are eliminated from contetnion pull the plug on palmer and evaluate pryor by giving him the rest of the starts for the year.
D.A can avoid media heat by using the fact that we are rebuilding, and need to know what we have at qb before the draft. Im afraid the clock is ticking on palmer and we know lienart is the new kyle boller, only with a much weaker arm.
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Dude, your Pryor fetish is going to your head. Did you watch a different game than the rest of us?
August 14th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
This reminds me very much of the time gruden inherited jeff george. the qb with the amazing arm and throws the prettiest deep ball, like peole say about palmer. Only I thik jg was better at avoiding picks than palmer is.
Gruden kept him on as a stop gap until he got his guy, i see big mack and Da doing the same. Please dont think that they dont notice the picks or find them alarming.
After spending all of that time with guys like rodgers, and schaub every coach on that staff knows that ints will kill your season.
palmer is one a try out basis this year
August 14th, 2012 at 3:30 pm
A tryout basis! LMAO Palmer has the wheel dude, TP is in the back-seat for now.
August 14th, 2012 at 3:30 pm
Settle down on the Palmer pick as well, it was one play, CP made a bad decision, it’s not his first and it won’t be his last, face it and move on.
I’m a big Palmer fan, I’m pretty certain he’s going to have a very good season for us, so certain that I can accept the fact that he made a bad play in a pre-season game and not go crazy trying to defend or justify him, he’ll take care of doubters himself.
August 14th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
CPalmer is the LEAST of our problems…unless he goes down for the count. THAT’S being a realist. There are other Players we need to worry about much more than a healthy Palmer.
August 14th, 2012 at 3:33 pm
No excuses, but watch the replay, had to be a perfectly thrown ball and it nearly was one. Just a couple inches out of Ford’s reach. I dont mind living by the sword and dying by the sword. Palmer is a Gunslinger. Like it or not. He is what he is….
August 14th, 2012 at 3:35 pm
I can’t wait until the 4th quarter of Fridays game to hear ” He beats Wang outside!”
August 14th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
^^again*
August 14th, 2012 at 3:40 pm
If we can all admit that palmer was up & down in his career with cincy it would be honest.
If we can all admit that 16 picks in 9 starts is horrific, it would also be honest.
cant we admit that palmer has a lot to prove, and has to show he isnt as washed up as he looked last year and in last nights game?
lots of qbs have had a break out season or 2 only to crash back to earth.
Stan humphries, don majkowski, neal oddonnel, kerry collins, matt hasselbeck, matt cassel, and the list could go on forever.
It may be time to realize that palmers probowl form was an anomaly, has he hasnt resembled anything near that 06 form in recent times, including last night
August 14th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
This reminds me very much of the time gruden inherited jeff george. the qb with the amazing arm and throws the prettiest deep ball, like peole say about palmer. Only I thik jg was better at avoiding picks than palmer is.
Gruden kept him on as a stop gap until he got his guy, i see big mack and Da doing the same. Please dont think that they dont notice the picks or find them alarming.
After spending all of that time with guys like rodgers, and schaub every coach on that staff knows that ints will kill your season.
palmer is one a try out basis this year
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Tell us how Soup would have checked it down and how exciting it would have been….
August 14th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
I was lucky enough, to see… The Real Deal— Buddy Guy + Johnny Lang in July, at a small venue… Buddy can still can BRING IT!!!
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My fender is signed by buddy guy
August 14th, 2012 at 3:42 pm
If Palmer didn’t throw a pick would Mistic even be on here? I highly doubt it
August 14th, 2012 at 3:43 pm
Anybody calling for rebuild mode is off their rocker.
If and when the time comes that we are mathematically eliminated from Playoff contention…then and only then do we talk of rebuilding.
With CPalmer, DMC, DHB and DeMoore all on the field at the same time, this Offense will be one of the best in the NFL. Keep them healthy, and fock rebuilding…win now.
August 14th, 2012 at 3:43 pm
Regarding last night’s game …
THE GOOD:
- Darren McFadden looks awesome. Best back in the league and best player on this team, hands down.
- The Run D. I think a new scheme and better defensive coaching is mostly what is needed to fix our run D. I think we’ll have that this year and teams are going to have a tough time against our very powerful front-4.
- Rod Streater. Based on camp reports and his performance last night, kid has already earned a roster spot. How many undrafted rookies can you say that about after the first exhibition game?
- Mike Mitchell. I’ve been a Mitchell defender since Al made the pick. Reports are he’s been impressive this camp and last night I saw consistent glimpses of the guy from the YouTube highlight reel. It’s not really the gift interception Orton threw him. He also decked Stephen McGee on a blitz, btw. It was really just the overall speed, aggressiveness and decisiveness with which he played the game. He really jumped off the screen to me during his time on the field. He was clearly the best player on the field while he was in the game.
- Terrelle Pryor’s athleticism. Kid just has an impressive size, speed and instinctual elusiveness. If QB doesn’t work out for him, I think he’s a realistic and potentially great WR/TE prospect. I think the Raiders should consider using him this season like the Steelers used Kordell “Slash” Stewart his first few seasons in the league.
- Escaped with no major injuries. Knock on wood.
THE BAD:
- Jacoby Ford had a rough night. It’s well documented. But it’s one preseason game and Ford has shown me plenty of ability in his young pro career. I’m honestly not at all worried about it. A bad preseason game … who really cares.
- WR depth. I’m really second-guessing the decision to trade Louis Murphy right now. Guy was the best WR on the team for two years before injury derailed him in 2011. If he were here I’d have no reservations about him if he had to fill in as a starter. Definitely a better option than Criner, IMO, and better-suited than Ford to fill in for Moore on the outside if needed. Hopefully Eddie McGee can come back soon and show us something.
- The offense scoring ZERO points. Not going to go crazy here. It’s one preseason game in which the starters played a couple of series. But I was not a big fan of the Knapp hiring. As I have posted many, many times, I felt the firing of Hue Jackson was a mistake and that we would miss his abilities as an offensive coach and playcaller. I really felt we should’ve kept Hue and hired a quality DC because the bottom-ranked D is really what kept us out of the playoffs last year. For the most part I like what Dennis Allen is doing, but it does concern me that we scored ZERO points in our first game without Hue and looked pretty discombobulated at times. Not a big deal, but bears watching.
- Lonyae Miller. I was really disappointed. Liked Miller’s game alot at Fresno but he just looked slow and lackluster last night.
- Our edge pass rush. I think we may miss Wimbley more than people realize this season. We’ve got a bunch of big, strong, powerful dudes on our d-line, but probably no good speed pass-rush guy on the edge. Wimbley didn’t rack up a ton of sacks, but he was very good at applying quick pressure off the edge that broke the QBs concentration and/or forced him into the surge of our DTs up the middle. A major hole on this roster right now.
THE UGLY:
- The dirt infield running across the Raiders field. It’s really a disgrace and embarrassment that the Raiders are still playing on that surface. Forget the aesthetic awfulness of it, but to expect players to run back and forth between two different playing surfaces and make quick, decisive cuts is a joke. It’s a real injury risk and makes players tentative. It’s something DA needs to take into account when alotting playing time in our 3rd exhibition game at home, which is normally when you play starter’s the longest. But I’d rather come out of that game healthy than worry about a few extra preseason series. Can’t stand that field.
August 14th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 3:40 pm
If we can all admit that palmer was up & down in his career with cincy it would be honest.
If we can all admit that 16 picks in 9 starts is horrific, it would also be honest.
cant we admit that palmer has a lot to prove, and has to show he isnt as washed up as he looked last year and in last nights game?
lots of qbs have had a break out season or 2 only to crash back to earth.
Stan humphries, don majkowski, neal oddonnel, kerry collins, matt hasselbeck, matt cassel, and the list could go on forever.
It may be time to realize that palmers probowl form was an anomaly, has he hasnt resembled anything near that 06 form in recent times, including last night
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The Snake had a ton of picks too dude. Palmer plays the QB position with the same kinda swagger. He is gonna beat you deep with his arm.
August 14th, 2012 at 3:49 pm
rebuild mode means get rid of your good veterans and give the job to worse players?
Nobody does that.
There is no such thing as “full rebuild” mode in the NFL. Well, except for the Bucs trying it last year (all young players) and being TERRIBLE.
Teams are constantly, year by year, rebuilding, shuffling, trying to get better. Some teams just do a better job at it than others.
August 14th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
Umm, Kerry Collins and Hasselbeck were legit NFL starters for close to a decade. Not exactly one or two-year wonders.
Palmer has put together 6 legit seasons. Last year was an aberration that would be a statistical outlier and thrown out by rational minds.
Yet even last year he ripped half his opponents for 300+ yards with multiple TDs, showing he still has the talent.
August 14th, 2012 at 3:54 pm
Psssst…
New post…
August 14th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
Nice post Chris in NY. The trade of Myrphy for Goodson was/is still a good trade to add depth at a position that we have “zero depth” behind injury prone DMC.
August 14th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
@ Mystic1
(R. Lee Ermey voice)
HOLY SHEEP SH-T, MYSTEC! IT’S ONLY A GAWD DAMM PRE- SEASON GAME! WHO GIVES A FLYIN UFCK IF PALMER THREW A PIC, IN A pre- SEASON GAME…
WOULD YOU PREFER LINHeRT (sp?) AND HIS NOODLE ARMED CHECK DOWNS?….
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Soup is in CHI- CAGO… If you still love him that much, move THERE….
August 14th, 2012 at 6:09 pm
635.Bob Marley Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
Mistic is just messing with you people.
Calm down.
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You’re right. I was just responding to being called racist trash.
Does anybody know me, or what skin color I am? I could be a person of any color or a mix of different ones as far as anyone knows.
I have to question the motivation behind the over the top promotion of guys like Russell, JC and now Pryor as these ultra talented QB’s.
I WISH Russell had been a great QB for us. He had my unbridled support. I liked him coming out of LSU. I also thought JC was good for us.
I’m so racist I bought a Cliff Branch “heritage” jersey.
I don’t have issue with ANY race, creed, or color. Except polkadot people. They just scare me.
August 14th, 2012 at 6:18 pm
623.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
August 14th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
For the love of god can we stop maiing excuses for palmers picks already?!?!?
If it was a perfect pass it would have landed in fords hands, it was an errant throw and a poor read and as a result it was picked.
Just admit it and move on
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Jamarcus Russell was a lazy pos and the biggest bust in NFL history and that can’t be blamed on Al Davis or anyone but himself.
Jason Campbell is an NFL backup who is fighting for the # 2 spot with Josh McCown and is considered by at least 90 % of the sports viewing public to be an average at best QB.
Just admit that and move on.