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Palmer and Ford on same page, Lechler recovering from surgery

By Steve Corkran
Wednesday, August 15th, 2012 at 1:53 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Much was made about wide receiver Jacoby Ford dropping two passes and not being able to make a play on a deep pass from Carson Palmer on Monday night. Palmer and Ford said, it’s much ado about nothing.
“The interception was my fault,” Palmer said Wednesday. “It was not his fault at all. It was completely my fault. The drops, that’s part of the game. I’ve thrown Jacoby a lot of balls, and those are the only two balls I remember being dropped with him from last year to this offseason to OTAs to minicamp, this training camp.”
Coach Dennis Allen said that Ford could have been more aggressive on the one play, which resulted in an interception by Cowboys safety Gerald Sensabaugh.
Ford said he wasn’t pleased with the way he played against the Cowboys. Inconsistent play is to be expected at this time of the season, though.
“It’s definitely not the way I wanted to come out and put anything on film like that,” Ford said. “But games like that happen and that’s why you’ve got to have a short-term memory and put it behind you. Good thing is, it’s preseason, so you kind of just put that behind you now and kind of just go into the next game, work on improvements the next time.”
Palmer dismissed any notion that he and Ford lack chemistry. In fact, quite the contrary.
“I’ve thrown him 100 and something balls probably and completed most of them,” Palmer said, “and the incompletes were mostly because of good coverage or bad throws. It’s not something that needs to be talked about. Jacoby understands. It’s nothing that needs to be talked about.
“I have complete faith in him and he’ll catch the next one. I told him right after (the interception) happened, ‘I’m coming right back at you to give you another chance.’ I know the next ball I throw to him, if it’s a bad ball, he’ll go up and make a play on it and make a play for me.”
Ford echoed Palmer’s sentiment, saying he and Palmer are in synch.
“Yeah, most definitely,” Ford said. “Me and Carson, we’ve been on cue every day since OTAs and camp, just working and getting that chemistry and the relationship down. We’ve been clicking well and that’s why the ball was coming to me, and I’m pretty sure he’s going to keep throwing to me. He’s not going to go away from me at all.”

– Defensive tackle Jamie Cumbie, fullback Rashawn Jackson and offensive lineman Ed Wang joined a sizable list of players unable to practice.
Cumbie (foot), Wang (shoulder) and Jackson (hip) suffered their injuries during the Cowboys game. None of the injuries appears to be serious.
On the bright side, running back Mike Goodson (neck) and wide receiver Eddie McGee (hamstring) returned to practice after missing considerable time.
“I wanted to get back out here,” Goodson said. “It was tough just sitting at the game, just watching, wanting to be out there with my team. Just happy to be back out here.”
Allen said he anticipates Goodson playing Friday night.
To that, Goodson said: “I can’t wait. I can’t wait. I cannot wait.”
Running back Taiwan Jones (hamstring), receiver Denarius Moore (hamstring), punter Shane Lechler (knee), tight end Brandon Myers (shoulder) and linebacker Aaron Curry (knee) also missed practice.
Allen said Curry still is in Los Angeles receiving treaments on his knee. He is expected to rejoin the team next week.
Allen said wide receiver Duke Calhoun (knee) and linebacker Mario Kuhn (knee) will be placed on injured reserve, as expected. There is no firm timetable for those transactions.

– Speaking of Lechler, Allen said he expects his Pro Bowl punter to play in at least one exhibition game. Allen also said that Lechler underwent an arthroscopic prodcedure on his knee.
Lechler has missed all of training camp so far. He said he underwen the procedure before camp started.
“It just slowly progressed,” Lechler said. “I’d work out and then I’d have swelling, then I’d work out and have swelling. I just came up and had it cleaned out. … Thirteen years, that’s a lot of pounding on my left knee. I feel a whole lot better already than I did before.”
In the process, Lechler said he has lost some weight. How much, he didn’t say. However, he said he weighs less than he has at any point in his Raiders career. He is listed as 230 pounds on the roster.
The reason Lechler lost weight, he said, is to expedite the healing process. He added that he has no doubt that he will kick in an exhibition game this season.

– Allen had crowd noised pumped in while the offense performed a drill as a means of simulating the conditions in a road game.
The Raiders play the Arizona Cardinals on Friday night in their first game away from the Oakland Coliseum this year.
Good thing Allen is working on that now, for there were several instances of players moving before the snap or being late off the ball.

– A Tweet Tuesday said that the Raiders were going to work out undrafted free agent defensive tackle Myles Wade. Allen said he isn’t sure if that workout took place. Wade spent time with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers earlier this season.

– Great scene after practice, with Palmer staying after to talk to and run with second-year quarterback Terrelle Pryor.
Then again, that’s nothing new for Palmer, revered by Allen and his teammates for his work ethic and selflessness.
“It says a lot about Carson as a person,” Allen said. “It says a lot about him as far as his being a team player. It says a lot about him as far as his unselfishness. Says a lot about him as far as wanting to win.”
That kind of approach is what it takes for the Raiders, or any team, to be successful, Allen said. Palmer and other projected starters can’t be fearful of sharing information or helping get better players competing for jobs and playing time.
“That’s the only way you develop a team and that’s the only way you develop a championship team is. we all got to be in this together,” Allen said. “We’re not independent contractors looking out for ourselves, we’re looking out for the Raiders and what we feel like helps us win.
“It helps Carson Palmer if Terrelle Pryor as a quarterback. If Christo Bilukidi gets better, it helps Tommy Kelly and Richard Seymour, because we’re in this for one reason and one reason only, and that’s to win and we need everybody to do that.”

– Pryor spent most of his time against the Cowboys running around, away from defenders, scrambling for positive yardage, avoiding persistent pressure.
Still, Allen admitted, there were some instances where Pryor, perhaps, could have stayed in the pocket longer and gone through his reads.
“It’s a combination of a lot of things,” Allen said. “Obviously, there were a couple of times where protection broke down. There were some times where he’s got to sit in there and make his reads. But it’s been a year since he’s been in a real football game.
“I wasn’t totally discouraged. I’m looking for him to get better. He’s been working hard to do that, so I’m not going to draw any conclusions on where Terrelle Pryor is. I’m going to let the process play out.”

– Quote of the day: “There’s no comparison to where I’ll be at week seven or eight this year as opposed to last year. Just getting the experience and reps I need now will pay off come week one.” — Palmer, who joined the Raiders midway through last season via trade after not playing at all until mid-October

– Coaches always pay particularly close attention to rookies and younger players in exhibition games, hoping to glean as much information as possible on whether they can make the 53-man roster and, maybe, even contribute right away.
To that end, Allen said he was impressed by the NFL debuts of defensive linemen Christo Bilukidi and Dominique Hamilton on Monday.
“I was impressed with both of them, as far as their effort,” Allen said. “Christo, specifically, on the run defense, he was pretty powerful in there, and that’s things that he’s got to work and continue to get better. It was good to see him play the run well, and it was good to see Hamilton with a nice pass rush, getting the sack on the quarterback.”

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  1. Seymour Bush Says:

    J Hill Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 1:43 pm

    Anyone????

    3rd string QB in the league better than Pryor????
    ==========================================

    Right now? All of them.

  2. aig-raiders Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 1:51 pm

    Chiefs 3rd string: Ricky Stanzi
    Bronco’s: Brock Osweiler

    I would rather have both over Pryor
    ————-
    Fat chance buddy. If we ever resort to our 3rd string QB, I want that QB to take the ball and RUN FOREST RUN.

  3. Marks hair Says:

    Aww

  4. Sullivan44 Says:

    Plaxico in Oakland right now. I’m full of it.

  5. Sullivan44 Says:

    Plaxico in Napa, with starting offense, running same play as his game winning catch in super bowl. I’m high.

  6. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I believe Bilukidi will have much more of an impact than Crawford.

  7. Raider O Says:

    J,

    When did you join the TP fan club?
    Glad to have you bro.

  8. Raider O Says:

    Aig-Raiders Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
    Just Fire Baby Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 1:51 pm

    Chiefs 3rd string: Ricky Stanzi
    Bronco’s: Brock Osweiler

    I would rather have both over Pryor
    ————-
    Fat chance buddy. If we ever resort to our 3rd string QB, I want that QB to take the ball and RUN FOREST RUN.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Thank You!!
    They are a 3rd string QB for a reason. TP can run.

  9. Dakota Says:

    1186.J Hill Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 1:54 pm

    I’m just trying to figure out where this line of stud, or even decent QB prospects is that we will be able to replace Pryor from.
    +++++++

    If you consider a fast guy who can’t throw a QB prospect, well, then the Olympics just ended so you have lots of guys like that.

    Pryor will be kept on as a cheap 3rd string QB this year, and after a year, when he still can’t throw, he will be told to either try the transition to TE, or get cut.

    He has zero future as an NFL QB.

  10. aig-raiders Says:

    Bilukidi looked alright. I didnt see anything pop out. I was low on Crawford during the draft and can’t wait to see what the hype is all about in the preseason.

  11. Thec Says:

    I like this post thanks…

    Should shut down some of the ridic post I have been reading since monday.

  12. J Hill Says:

    O,

    Been saying all along I need to see the kid play.

    Wouldn’t say I’m a fan, yet.

    I saw some good things the other night. There was one nice medium range pass where Criner fell down, and the pass he threw that drew a PI call.

    Like his poise, didn’t look shook.

    2 years from now, might have something.

    Picking up the pace pre snap huddle, footwork, and a couple other things can be improved upon with reps. Even just the practice reps.

    If we were talking about having to change his delivery like a Tebow, then I’d be off it.

  13. Goldie7 Says:

    Thrilled to see Lechler back. Yep…awesome article Mr. Cork! Really enjoyed reading. I hope we have a Live Blog…Friday night during the game. Too hyped and excited.

  14. Just Fire Baby Says:

    When you are talking about a nasty D-lineman, I’ll take the dude from Angola (Christo) and pass on the tea-drinking Englishman (Crawford).

    I mean, Crawford went to the same London fancy-pantsed prep school as the Harry Potter guy for crying out loud!!!!!

  15. Thec Says:

    Christo Bilukidi was my “sleeper pick of the draft. Has excellent footwork.

  16. Goldie7 Says:

    Sup J! How are you? Peace I’m out.

  17. Seymour Bush Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 2:00 pm

    I believe Bilukidi will have much more of an impact than Crawford.
    =================================

    Bilukidi played fairly well.

  18. Thec Says:

    No word yet on if we worked out Wade. really would like to see him ge a shot. Has really good measurables.

  19. eastoaklandraider Says:

    the only reason TP gets all this attention is because he was once projected to be a first round pick. but i’m not worried with his work ethic and want to by year 4 he should be ready to go ala aaron rodgers.

  20. Thec Says:

    I miss NFL rewind…

  21. The Big Banana Says:

    Thec Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 2:03 pm
    I like this post thanks…

    Should shut down some of the ridic post I have been reading since monday.

    ———-

    Unfortunately, it will not. The propaganda machine is relentless.

  22. KoolKell Says:

    “The interception was my fault,” Palmer said Wednesday.
    ————————-
    See, I was right.

  23. eastoaklandraider Says:

    rather have chad than plax been hearing good thing about chad (football wise) looking quick like 07 form.

  24. Thec Says:

    Unfortunately, it will not. The propaganda machine is relentless.

    ++++++++++

    I liked the who shot john debate, who’s fault was it FORD or Palmers????

    want to get some good laughs, go back and read some of the quotes from the Semi’s, hill larry us.

  25. Raider O Says:

    I saw some good things the other night. There was one nice medium range pass where Criner fell down, and the pass he threw that drew a PI call.

    Like his poise, didn’t look shook.

    2 years from now, might have something.

    Picking up the pace pre snap huddle, footwork, and a couple other things can be improved upon with reps. Even just the practice reps.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
    Well said. If he is willing to work (he is), then most (if not all) his issues can be fixed with coaching, reps, and playing time.

  26. DutchRaider77 Says:

    17.Seymour Bush Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
    Just Fire Baby Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 2:00 pm

    I believe Bilukidi will have much more of an impact than Crawford.
    =================================

    Bilukidi played fairly well.

    _________________________________________________

    Dominique Hamilton? Got after the passer a few time (albeit against the scrubs).

  27. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I heard Chad was potentially going to get cut anyway, before the arrest.

    Was struggling to pick up the play-book and had a horrible drop in the preseason game.

  28. Seymour Bush Says:

    Dakota Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 2:02 pm

    1186.J Hill Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 1:54 pm

    I’m just trying to figure out where this line of stud, or even decent QB prospects is that we will be able to replace Pryor from.
    +++++++

    If you consider a fast guy who can’t throw a QB prospect, well, then the Olympics just ended so you have lots of guys like that.

    Pryor will be kept on as a cheap 3rd string QB this year, and after a year, when he still can’t throw, he will be told to either try the transition to TE, or get cut.

    He has zero future as an NFL QB.
    ==========================================

    Well, anything can happen, but the problem is once the season starts coaches don’t have time to spend working on fundamentals with 3rd stringers. Pryor really needs to work on his throwing motion and footwork and probably will need to do that on his own, in the offseason with high school kids and college players. But we can’t read too much into one half of a preseason game just yet.

  29. The Big Banana Says:

    Thec Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
    Unfortunately, it will not. The propaganda machine is relentless.

    ++++++++++

    I liked the who shot john debate, who’s fault was it FORD or Palmers????

    want to get some good laughs, go back and read some of the quotes from the Semi’s, hill larry us.

    ——

    All over a preseason pick. What’s even better is Gannon declaring Palmer done because of that pick. Overreact much?

  30. Just Fire Baby Says:

    It was Palmer’s fault, he threw it.

    I just agree with Coach Allen that Jacoby kind of half-azzed it and didn’t help his QB.

  31. eastoaklandraider Says:

    even though chad had some of his best years with cp3 dont think they get along too well so we can probably scratch chad off the list.

  32. Thec Says:

    ——

    All over a preseason pick. What’s even better is Gannon declaring Palmer done because of that pick. Overreact much?
    ++++++++

    f@c rich

  33. DutchRaider77 Says:

    What do people think of Josh Johnson? Could be cut by the niners?

  34. DKnight007 Says:

    haha…Melky suspended for the rest of the season for cheating!

    haha..and the morons on KNBR and The Game wanted the Giants to sign that one year wonder to a big contract!

    LOL

  35. eastoaklandraider Says:

    All over a preseason pick. What’s even better is Gannon declaring Palmer done because of that pick. Overreact much?
    ——————-

    say it aint so rich

  36. raiderinparadise Says:

    This team can really grow the next 3 weeks and into the regular season. Allen keeps preaching get better everyday.

    They will, they are driven.

    Palmer is a great leader, say what you want about his picks, but Palmer will get this offense rolling and be better with the ball.

    Only worries …. TE battle is weak and Denarius Moore, guy needs to get healthy …. needs the reps …. needs to see the field 100% week 1.

  37. DJ Johnny Says:

    How many times have we heard QB’s take the blame for losses or plays that they had nothing to be blamed for?

    It happens all the time.

    “I wasn’t even in the game but that’s on me..I should have been cheering the guys on harder than I was”.

    Romo does it, coaches do it, and right there Palmer was doing it.

  38. eastoaklandraider Says:

    DutchRaider77 Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
    What do people think of Josh Johnson? Could be cut by the niners?
    —————
    who?

  39. JLofty Says:

    Pryor, like EVERY other QB who gets drafted or tries out for a NFL job will either “Get it” or not. When that happens is unknown not only to the keyboard warriors in here, but also to the coaches, and personnel folks. Some take more time, others may make quick progress only to regress later. And a few, (very few) come back from those regressions to succeed. Think Gannon or SYoung.

    Dakota, no offense but you are talking out your @$$. You don’t know that you are just drawing a conclusion before the process has played out. Unlike the coach.

    You have to admit at least the kid has SOME upside. He can avoid the sack like FEW others and can make plays from nothing already….

  40. Seymour Bush Says:

    DutchRaider77 Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 2:22 pm

    What do people think of Josh Johnson? Could be cut by the niners?
    ========================================

    Josh Johnson is a good prospect. He is like a poor man’s Mike Vick. Fast, has good command of the game, got good coaching from Harbaugh in college AND he is an Oakland native. I would love to see him here.

  41. DutchRaider77 Says:

    38.eastoaklandraider Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 2:24 pm
    DutchRaider77 Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
    What do people think of Josh Johnson? Could be cut by the niners?
    —————
    who?

    ____________________________________________________

    The San Francisco 49ers have signed QB Josh Johnson to a two-year deal through the 2013 season.

    “Josh is a promising young player that has experience in our offensive system,” said 49ers General Manager Trent Baalke. “He is a skilled athlete with good arm talent. Josh has shown promise in limited action, both as a back-up and starter at the NFL level. We are pleased to add him to our team.”

    Johnson (6-3, 205) was originally drafted in the fifth round (160th overall) of the 2008 NFL Draft by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Johnson has appeared in 26 games (5 starts) completing 96 of 177 attempts for 1,042 yards and 5 touchdowns. He has recorded 37 rushes for 237 yards (6.9 average). In his five career starts, Johnson completed 75 of 142 attempts for 828 yards and 5 touchdowns.

    A 25-year-old native of Oakland, CA, Johnson starred collegiately at the University of San Diego under then head coach Jim Harbaugh. Johnson owns four USD career passing records including touchdown passes (113), completions (724), at­tempts (1,065) and passing yards (9,699). Additionally, Johnson rushed for 1,864 and 19 touch­downs, finishing his career with 11,563 yards of total of­fense.

  42. eastoaklandraider Says:

    JLofty Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
    Pryor, like EVERY other QB who gets drafted or tries out for a NFL job will either “Get it” or not. When that happens is unknown not only to the keyboard warriors in here, but also to the coaches, and personnel folks. Some take more time, others may make quick progress only to regress later. And a few, (very few) come back from those regressions to succeed. Think Gannon or SYoung.

    Dakota, no offense but you are talking out your @$$. You don’t know that you are just drawing a conclusion before the process has played out. Unlike the coach.

    You have to admit at least the kid has SOME upside. He can avoid the sack like FEW others and can make plays from nothing already….
    ——————
    PREACH!!!!

  43. DJ Johnny Says:

    Wow. I had already written Curry off and now he’s gonna be back with the team?

    I noticed Burris on a couple plays pulled his best Kirk Morrison and ran into the backfield…overplaying it the lurching back and trying to grab the runner.

    He’ll learn.

    “Trust your instincts Luke”.

  44. Thec Says:

    Dakota, no offense but you are talking out your @$$. You don’t know that you are just drawing a conclusion before the process has played out. Unlike the coach.

    ++++++++++++

    ROFLMAO……KaBOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMM

  45. eastoaklandraider Says:

    DJ Johnny Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 2:28 pm
    Wow. I had already written Curry off and now he’s gonna be back with the team?
    ———-
    when will he be back

  46. eastoaklandraider Says:

    DutchRaider77 Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
    38.eastoaklandraider Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 2:24 pm
    DutchRaider77 Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
    What do people think of Josh Johnson? Could be cut by the niners?
    —————
    who?

    ____________________________________________________

    The San Francisco 49ers have signed QB Josh Johnson to a two-year deal through the 2013 season.

    “Josh is a promising young player that has experience in our offensive system,” said 49ers General Manager Trent Baalke. “He is a skilled athlete with good arm talent. Josh has shown promise in limited action, both as a back-up and starter at the NFL level. We are pleased to add him to our team.”

    Johnson (6-3, 205) was originally drafted in the fifth round (160th overall) of the 2008 NFL Draft by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Johnson has appeared in 26 games (5 starts) completing 96 of 177 attempts for 1,042 yards and 5 touchdowns. He has recorded 37 rushes for 237 yards (6.9 average). In his five career starts, Johnson completed 75 of 142 attempts for 828 yards and 5 touchdowns.

    A 25-year-old native of Oakland, CA, Johnson starred collegiately at the University of San Diego under then head coach Jim Harbaugh. Johnson owns four USD career passing records including touchdown passes (113), completions (724), at­tempts (1,065) and passing yards (9,699). Additionally, Johnson rushed for 1,864 and 19 touch­downs, finishing his career with 11,563 yards of total of­fense.
    ———————
    thanks but no thanks

  47. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    I’d rather have TP as a future prospect, but I bet there will be at least 10 QBs cut who would make a better 3rd string QB right now.

  48. DJ Johnny Says:

    45.eastoaklandraider Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
    DJ Johnny Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 2:28 pm
    Wow. I had already written Curry off and now he’s gonna be back with the team?
    ———-
    when will he be back

    I believe they said by next week.

  49. Dakota Says:

    It will be a sad day for some of you when you realize by “butt talk” is more acurate than you lol.

  50. eastoaklandraider Says:

    The San Francisco 49ers have signed QB Josh Johnson to a two-year deal through the 2013 season.

    “Josh is a promising young player that has experience in our offensive system,” said 49ers General Manager Trent Baalke. “He is a skilled athlete with good arm talent. Josh has shown promise in limited action, both as a back-up and starter at the NFL level. We are pleased to add him to our team.”

    Johnson (6-3, 205) was originally drafted in the fifth round (160th overall) of the 2008 NFL Draft by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Johnson has appeared in 26 games (5 starts) completing 96 of 177 attempts for 1,042 yards and 5 touchdowns. He has recorded 37 rushes for 237 yards (6.9 average). In his five career starts, Johnson completed 75 of 142 attempts for 828 yards and 5 touchdowns.

    A 25-year-old native of Oakland, CA, Johnson starred collegiately at the University of San Diego under then head coach Jim Harbaugh. Johnson owns four USD career passing records including touchdown passes (113), completions (724), at­tempts (1,065) and passing yards (9,699). Additionally, Johnson rushed for 1,864 and 19 touch­downs, finishing his career with 11,563 yards of total of­fense.
    ———————
    thanks but no thanks
    ——————–
    andrew walters also broke some nice records for arizona st. how did that turn out?

  51. DJ Johnny Says:

    47.Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 2:33 pm
    I’d rather have TP as a future prospect, but I bet there will be at least 10 QBs cut who would make a better 3rd string QB right now.

    We have to check his potential Swedish lineage though to see if there’s any hope for the lad.

  52. DKnight007 Says:

    Raiders need to sign whichever RB is cut by the Niners actually ahead of a QB that is cut.

  53. DKnight007 Says:

    haha…Melky suspended for the rest of the season for cheating!

    haha..and the morons on KNBR and The Game wanted the Giants to sign that one year wonder to a big contract!

    LOL!

  54. theghostronin79 Says:

    “The interception was my fault,” Palmer said Wednesday.
    ————————-
    See, I was right.

    ==========

    He’s doing what a Captain does…..Absorbs the blame and takes it off his teammates. He won’t let anybody throw “His boys” under the bus, not even coach.

  55. DJ Johnny Says:

    I’ve watched the Palmer “pick” over 1,000 times now in super slo motion and have arrived at the determination that the pass was 1/97th of a degree off.

  56. Raider O Says:

    LOL White Devil. I don’t care what they say. You are one of my favorite posters, and I enjoy reading your posts that are not Faker related.
    Go Clippers!

  57. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    DJ Johnny Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
    47.Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 2:33 pm
    I’d rather have TP as a future prospect, but I bet there will be at least 10 QBs cut who would make a better 3rd string QB right now.

    We have to check his potential Swedish lineage though to see if there’s any hope for the lad.
    ——
    I can tell TP has some Swede in him.

  58. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    This has to be the most debated preseason INT in the history of the WORLD!

  59. r8rwill Says:

    good afternoon nation,,
    I have a new name for#55.. I will call him mcspleen!!!!

  60. Raider O Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 2:33 pm
    I’d rather have TP as a future prospect, but I bet there will be at least 10 QBs cut who would make a better 3rd string QB right now.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Swedes have great logic. Listen to the Swede!

  61. raiderinparadise Says:

    Denarius Moore worries me …

    Every D-lineman we have is a beast …

    Somebody HAS to be better than Shawntae Spencer

  62. Raider O Says:

    McPain!!!!!

  63. 8RaiderReign8 Says:

    Realtruraider Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 1:43 pm
    He didn’t panick.. His Wrs weren’t open often

    ——————————————————

    Could be true, I wasn’t at the game so like you said we couldn’t see what was going on with the WRs watching it on TV
    ______________________

    It will be better during the season when the NFL releases the All 22 film.

  64. DJ Johnny Says:

    Is there any link to what Gannon actually said about Palmer?

    Sometimes these things are overblown.

    I know that Adam Schein (his partner) is a Palmer hater going back to the Cincy days.

    He was one of the biggest “He’s a quitter” goofballs out there.

    You can google his past comments if you want but it’s 2 minutes you’ll never get back.

  65. DutchRaider77 Says:

    andrew walters also broke some nice records for arizona st. how did that turn out?

    ________________________________________________

    Sorry, forgot to mention the attribute of Johnson that you would find most appealing, he is black.

  66. Raider O Says:

    McPain
    Missile Mitchell
    X-rated
    Shownasty

  67. Dakota Says:

    I’m like Reggie, I go with my gut. My gut, and my eyes, are telling me Pryor has no shot. Just like they told me Cable was not the answer after about two weeks of watching him coach, and just like they told me Jamarcus was full of schyyyyt and a loser when he skipped out of training camp to be with his mommy for her knee surgery, or whatever excuse he used.

    Based on what I have seen of Pryor in College, and in his time with the Raiders, the kid has no shot to be a starting NFL QB.

    Sorry to break the news to you Raider O….he was drafted by Al for one reason and one reason only….his speed.

    GOOOOO LAKERS!

  68. eastoaklandraider Says:

    This has to be the most debated preseason INT in the history of the WORLD!
    ————–
    you telln me. its like its the end of the world.lol

  69. Raider O Says:

    I’m sick of Gannon’s crap. You threw 5 INTs. 5!!! Get over it!

  70. DJ Johnny Says:

    Palmer never “quit” on his team. He didn’t want to be there for a long time and waited till the season was over before making his big stand.

    It’s Palmers’ life. If he doesn’t wanna work for an employer he has the option to not do so…and give up his paycheck. Which he did.

  71. Dakota Says:

    58.Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
    This has to be the most debated preseason INT in the history of the WORLD!
    +++++++++

    Imagine the hysteria in here had Darren McFadden fumbled…..

  72. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Pryor could be the Tebow. If we get desperate that is. If “The Real Matty Ice” is our QB at some point, may want to install spread offense like in Denver.

  73. DJ Johnny Says:

    Interesting how Gruden and Tirico were saying that the Raider receiver corps is possibly the biggest weakness on the team, when all we’ve been hearing from the other pundits is that it is possibly our biggest strength.

  74. J Hill Says:

    CHEATIN’ ARSSE Giants, lol.

    AT least 5 games, JFB.

  75. morilla Says:

    Would you want to work in Cincy? No thanks.

  76. DJ Johnny Says:

    71.Dakota Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
    58.Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
    This has to be the most debated preseason INT in the history of the WORLD!
    +++++++++

    Imagine the hysteria in here had Darren McFadden fumbled…..

    Hysteria??? I would have shot myself.

  77. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Biggest weakness is TE, CB, and Mark Davis’ barber.

  78. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Mark Davis’ hair style was popular in Sweden back in 1492.

  79. KoolKell Says:

    Swedes have great logic. Listen to the Swede!
    —————————-
    He’s about as Swedish as you are, Palestinian

  80. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
    Swedes have great logic. Listen to the Swede!
    —————————-
    He’s about as Swedish as you are, Palestinian
    ——
    This coming from guy who pretends to be a real estate agent.

  81. The Big Banana Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
    Biggest weakness is TE, CB, and Mark Davis’ barber.

    ——

    Lmao!

  82. wasbanned Says:

    “I wasn’t totally discouraged. I’m looking for him to get better. He’s been working hard to do that, so I’m not going to draw any conclusions on where Terrelle Pryor is. I’m going to let the process play out.”

    Translation:
    So I was very discouraged, just not totally. He’s working really hard so I won’t say he sucks just yet. I will wait until you see this crap for a few more games and then everyone will understand when I cut him loose.

  83. Raider O Says:

    LMAO Swede.

  84. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    KoolKell is phony as a Swedish suntan.

  85. TxRaider210 Says:

    Nice one Klas, rock it like a Swede !!

  86. TxRaider210 Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 2:53 pm

    KoolKell is phony as a Swedish suntan.
    ——————-

    Now that is some funny schit!lmao

  87. 8RaiderReign8 Says:

    BTW how about that hit by McPain! He’s gonna create a lot of fear coming across the middle.

  88. RaydaSwagger Says:

    Ball right through Fords hands.
    Right through.
    slow motion. freeze frame. right through his hands.
    Anyone who says it was CP’s fault is a full blown idiot.

  89. KoolKell Says:

    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 2:53 pm

    KoolKell is phony as a Swedish suntan.
    ——————-

    Now that is some funny schit!lmao
    ————————–
    ROFLMAO, whooooooooooo, Lololololololol, Heheheheheheheheh, hahahahahahahahahaha
    Damn that was funny!

  90. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Kell has tasted the sour grapes. :(

  91. KoolKell Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 2:58 pm

    Kell has tasted the sour grapes.
    ———————–
    ohhhhhhhhhh sow-er, yikes.

  92. DJ Johnny Says:

    88.RaydaSwagger Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
    Ball right through Fords hands.
    Right through.
    slow motion. freeze frame. right through his hands.
    Anyone who says it was CP’s fault is a full blown idiot.

    I have watched that play in super duper slo mo, frame by frame over 5,000 times now. I stayed up till 4am disecting it and …i’m still not sure.

  93. Dakota Says:

    Here are some glowing endorsements of the great Pryor, let me translate for you guys…..He is not a potential starting NFL QB, sorry:

    1) 2011 Supplemental Draft Preview: The 6’6”, 233-pound college signal caller has made some strides as a pure passer in his time at Columbus, but not enough to where he should ever be considered a conventional starting quarterback. The dual-threat triggerman was always much more of a runner than a thrower with the Scarlet and Gray. In fact, he never totally seemed comfortable in the pocket, as evidenced by how he often failed to see defenders in the vicinity of his intended targets. And while Pryor certainly has the arm strength to launch it downfield, he lacks the accuracy to put the ball in favorable spots where only his receiver has a chance to come down with the throw. But his biggest indictment is his overall inconsistency in how he’ll sometimes dangerously float up some dying quails and other times just flat out overthrow his receivers. The touch isn’t there and neither is the ability to play against man-to-man coverage with the way he struggles to fit the ball into tight spots. What Pryor does exceedingly well is run with the football. His long, effortless stride is hard to defend since he can chew major yardage in a few amount of steps. The Pennsylvania native also has a very strong lower half, which allows him to keep his balance. His best position as a future member of the NFL is wide receiver. Physically, some have already compared to Vincent Jackson. Obviously, he’ll need about two years or more before he learns all the nuances of the position.

    2) Mel Kiper Jr. and Todd McShay usually are ESPN’s dueling NFL talent analysts. But on the subject of Terrelle Pryor’s potential to be a high-end draft prospect at quarterback next year, they agree:

    He won’t be.

    And that’s not because the 6-foot-6, 240-pound Pryor is suspended for Ohio State’s first five games.

    “I’ve said all along, I think he’s a tight end,” Kiper told The Dispatch last week.

    McShay concurred yesterday, then added his own twist, probably after factoring in Pryor’s ability to run 40 yards in less than 4.4 seconds.

    “Tight end, wide receiver – one of those positions,” McShay said. “I view him as a wide receiver prospect more than a quarterback prospect. I guess I don’t disagree completely with Mel.”

    3) Scouting Terrelle Pryor

    There’s no doubt that Terrelle Pryor is a special and gifted athlete. He was Jim Tressel’s highest ranking recruit in 25 years of football coaching, and was thought to make an immediate impact that could take the NCAA by storm.

    Recruited as a quarterback, Pryor came in and garnered plenty of attention from local and national media. He received playing time as a freshman after incumbent starter Todd Boeckman went down with minor injuries, most notably against Penn State.

    Unfortunately for Pryor, he’s not an NFL quarterback. His best position in the NFL would be as a wide receiver, or maybe even bulking up as a pure receiving tight end.

    As a quarterback, Pryor’s ability to make plays with his feet is perhaps his greatest feature. His 6’6 233 pound frame is intimidating, and he uses his long strides to make plays on the ground, escaping pressure in the pocket and picking up numerous first downs.

    The problem is that’s about the only great attribute he has as a quarterback. His arm strength is weak, he lobs the football more often than not, and has been consistently bailed out by his receivers who have a knack for coming up with the tough passes in traffic.

    Pryor’s ability to read a defense is very poor, and his first instinct has been to run with the football as soon as he feels any sort of pressure. He fails to succeed at stepping up in the pocket and lacks ideal touch on short-intermediate passes.

    His footwork is less than adequate. Pryor makes many off-balanced throws, many of which come off of his back foot. He will often push the ball forward and try to make a throw with just his arm, rather than following through with the football.

    The comparisons to Vince Young came immediately for Pryor. The players share the same collegiate build, as well as play making ability, especially with the use of their feet. But Young had a stronger arm at Texas than Pryor has shown with the Buckeyes. We’ve seen Young struggle in the NFL, despite having better passing tools, and that doesn’t seem to bode well for Pryor.

    Pryor is an athlete. He’s a player with a lot of physical potential that has yet to be tapped into, but his intangibles, or lack thereof, will keep him from being what he’s capable of.

    Now that we’ve decided that he’s not an NFL quarterback, then we have to find a position in which he may be able to excel at, which is probably going to be wide receiver.

    Pryor has a receiver build. Being 6’6 and having good weight to match his long strides to run down field is a huge plus for Pryor. He also has big hands, and he was utilized a couple times at Ohio State as a receiver, most notably when he caught a five yard touchdown lob from Todd Boeckman in the 2008 Fiesta Bowl.

    Pryor was also a basketball player at Jeannette High School, which he had to make a decision to pursue that career or one in football. His basketball scouting report mentions that to add to his height, he has an outstanding leaping ability and vertical jump.

    When you put all of his physical tools together everything matches to be a productive pass catcher in the NFL. All of the ability is there, but the next question is whether or not Pryor has the intangibles to make the transition to the NFL as a wide receiver or even a tight end.

    He’ll have to learn how to run crisp routes, make tough catches in traffic, and learn to make precise cuts on his routes. While he has good speed, it isn’t in the sub 4.50 forty yard dash range. Pryor’s speed is likely closer to 4.55-5.59, which is still exceptional considering his 233 pound frame.

    The next issue is his attitude and ego, which are things that really could hinder his NFL performance. It’s no secret that Pryor thinks very highly of himself, but at times he seems to believe that he is above the program of which to whom he is a part of. If he’s not willing to learn and improve at the next level, he could have a problem being coached up.

    Still, 32 teams will have an ability to use one of their 2012 NFL Draft picks on Pryor in the Supplemental Draft, assuming he enters. While it’s likely clear to most NFL organizations that he’s not a quarterback, it doesn’t mean that there won’t be a team out there willing to use a third round selection on a player with his skill set. I see a fourth or fifth round selection being used for Pryor by a team in July, as a mid-round grade for him as an athlete is a fair grade overall considering his ability.

    Pryor could have a bright future for himself in the NFL. He’ll need to mature and let the coaching staff work with him to become exceptional, and that could end up being the toughest task for Terrelle Pryor.

  94. TxRaider210 Says:

    RaydaSwagger Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 2:56 pm

    Ball right through Fords hands.
    Right through.
    slow motion. freeze frame. right through his hands.
    Anyone who says it was CP’s fault is a full blown idiot.
    —————-
    Truth, Carson just took the blame to make the Smurf look better. Nice of him to do, but not very necessary.imo

  95. realtruraider Says:

    Interesting how Gruden and Tirico were saying that the Raider receiver corps is possibly the biggest weakness on the team, when all we’ve been hearing from the other pundits is that it is possibly our biggest strength.

    ——————————————————-

    Really? During the game? I know before the game started Gruden was talkin up our WRs and our whole offense, he did say he didn’t like the defense and that was the weakness of the team. I would say he almost went as far to say he loved our WR’s, he talked up Ford too, but this was all before the game, so maybe he jumped ship after watching the game, put him on the list as some on that way overreacted to this 1st live practice game

  96. RaydaSwagger Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 2:49 pm

    KoolKell Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
    Swedes have great logic. Listen to the Swede!
    —————————-
    He’s about as Swedish as you are, Palestinian
    ——
    This coming from guy who pretends to be a real estate agent.
    ================
    Anyone can be a real estate agent.
    To get to Kells level of expertise takes $99 through groupon.
    And there you are. A full fledged agent.
    Estimate there are 600,000 real estate agents who make each year what Kell makes, which is zero. Unlike Kell, most of those have other jobs.

  97. Dakota Says:

    Another perfect game?

    Damn.

    What are these pitcher on?

  98. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Kell, are you jobless? You should marry a Swede and move to the land of ice and snow. We have a good welfare system.

  99. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “Klas Tjorborn Says:

    This has to be the most debated preseason INT in the history of the WORLD!”

    POST OF THE WEEK!!!

  100. Thec Says:

    Dakota Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
    1148.J Hill Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 1:35 pm
    Quick question….

    Which team out there has a better 3rd string QB than we do?
    +++++++++++++

    Who cares about 3rd string QBs? Especially other team’s shyyyyyty 3rd stringers?

    Also, I doubt most 3rd string QBs were 3rd round picks….

    TP = a lot of wasted comments on a guy who will never make a meaningful impact on our team. Can’t even compete with “draft bust” Leinart as the 2nd string QB.

    ++++++++

    So why the long disertation “IF” you dont care or if it is wate to talk about him?

    Seems like double agent talk.

  101. Dakota Says:

    100.Thec Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
    Dakota Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
    1148.J Hill Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 1:35 pm
    Quick question….

    Which team out there has a better 3rd string QB than we do?
    +++++++++++++

    Who cares about 3rd string QBs? Especially other team’s shyyyyyty 3rd stringers?

    Also, I doubt most 3rd string QBs were 3rd round picks….

    TP = a lot of wasted comments on a guy who will never make a meaningful impact on our team. Can’t even compete with “draft bust” Leinart as the 2nd string QB.

    ++++++++

    So why the long disertation “IF” you dont care or if it is wate to talk about him?

    Seems like double agent talk.

    +++++++++++

    Thec,

    Just trying to bring the truth and crush dreams.

    You know I like to argue.

  102. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Can’t wait to see DVD rematch with Fitzgerald.

  103. Thec Says:

    Post 93, is a Loooonnnnggg A$$ wasted comment…

  104. Thec Says:

    Thec,

    Just trying to bring the truth and crush dreams.

    You know I like to argue.

    ++++++++++

    So that makes you a double agent… Dakota007…lol

  105. Dakota Says:

    Thec,

    Did you see anything Monday night that disputes what has been said about Pryor in post 93?

  106. KoolKell Says:

    Anyone can be a real estate agent.
    To get to Kells level of expertise takes $99 through groupon.
    And there you are. A full fledged agent.
    Estimate there are 600,000 real estate agents who make each year what Kell makes, which is zero. Unlike Kell, most of those have other jobs.
    ———————-
    http://maxebrdi.paragonrels.com/ParagonLS/Default.mvc#1,%5Bobject%20Object%5D1

  107. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Kell, what is your ID and password? Just curious.

  108. Silverandblack666 Says:

    LMAO good one Klas

  109. TxRaider210 Says:

    Klas-sic!lol

  110. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
    Klas-sic!lol
    —–
    I like that! I think I’ll get it on T-shirt.

  111. KoolKell Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 3:19 pm

    Kell, what is your ID and password? Just curious.
    ————————–
    I know you are Troll. Lol.

  112. Seymour Bush Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 3:19 pm

    Kell, what is your ID and password?
    =======================================

    You don’t really think he has an actual ID and password do you?

  113. KoolKell Says:

    I tried to post it off the Mls, but I have a 1,050,000 house in escrow right now.

  114. TxRaider210 Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 3:22 pm

    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
    Klas-sic!lol
    —–
    I like that! I think I’ll get it on T-shirt.
    ———–
    On the back you could have “Roc it like a Swede!”

  115. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 3:19 pm

    Kell, what is your ID and password? Just curious.
    ————————–
    I know you are Troll. Lol.
    ——-
    This is what a troll looks like:

    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-R80OFNSRMSs/TapbioMyOuI/AAAAAAAABHY/6040xBvlFWU/s1600/the-troll-hunter-3.jpg

  116. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    A troll also looks like this:

    http://kaneandassociatesrealtors.com/default.asp.f-meetouragents_view_profile.agentid-9788

  117. realtruraider Says:

    Alot of of teams have a ton of injuries already, I heard the Packers have like 19 players injured, they are going to have to change these CBA restrictions, the players obviously were not ready for the grind of TC because of it.

  118. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 3:22 pm

    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
    Klas-sic!lol
    —–
    I like that! I think I’ll get it on T-shirt.
    ———–
    On the back you could have “Roc it like a Swede!”
    —-
    Awesome idea! If I sell a million T-shirts, I give you half the profits.

  119. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Ernie:

    http://www.harpersbazaar.com/cm/harpersbazaar/images/8e/2-ernie-de.jpg

  120. Raider O Says:

    8RaiderReign8 Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
    BTW how about that hit by McPain! He’s gonna create a lot of fear coming across the middle.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
    McPain!!!

  121. Thec Says:

    Dakota Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
    Thec,

    Did you see anything Monday night that disputes what has been said about Pryor in post 93?

    ++++++

    To be honest I did not read it. Waaayyyyy to long and has a slant.

    I am more interested in how the young man performs and grows from the monday night game.

  122. TxRaider210 Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 3:27 pm

    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 3:22 pm

    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
    Klas-sic!lol
    —–
    I like that! I think I’ll get it on T-shirt.
    ———–
    On the back you could have “Roc it like a Swede!”
    —-
    Awesome idea! If I sell a million T-shirts, I give you half the profits.
    —————
    Sweet deal man, just no US Dollars please..lol

  123. realtruraider Says:

    @116

    Thats KoolKell?

  124. TxRaider210 Says:

    Thec

    I think Pryor will be fine bro, just give him some time, he needs to just play. I expect him to be more instinctual in the coming games.

  125. Thec Says:

    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 3:33 pm
    Thec

    I think Pryor will be fine bro, just give him some time, he needs to just play. I expect him to be more instinctual in the coming games.

    +++++++++

    Truth however, I like to sometimes engage in idle banter with some of the Semi’s.

  126. RaiderDebo Says:

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/15/greg-schiano-i-dont-want-to-be-least-penalized-team-in-nfl/

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Schiano totally gets it!

  127. KoolKell Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 3:26 pm

    A troll also looks like this:

    http://kaneandassociatesrealtors.com/default.asp.f-meetouragents_view_profile.agentid-9788
    ————————-
    I thought the tthinking is that I am unemployed, Dumb Beech. Aw nevermind. Lol. Whatever tripps your trigger Troll. Even your hand.

  128. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Realtruraider Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
    @116

    Thats KoolKell?
    ——-
    That sure is. It’s a true story.

  129. TxRaider210 Says:

    Thec

    Do you see the coaches letting Pryor make more plays in AZ, as opposed to mainly drop backs?

  130. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Holy Cow! Kell has a listing for the first time in 5 years!

    http://kaneandassociatesrealtors.com/default.asp.f-listings_byagent.agentid-9788

  131. RaydaSwagger Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 3:24 pm

    I tried to post it off the Mls, but I have a 1,050,000 house in escrow right now.
    ==============
    You lie.
    How come it doesn’t show up in your listings?
    And never has?
    You can cut and paste the escrow (you are the cut and paste king) yet you don’t.
    Again, you lie.

  132. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    Gotta love when you’re training your New Hire and then you get a crack head that come’s in to your store and throws pillows everywhere and then demands we make him sandwich? SMH DRUGS ARE BAD, WELL EXCEPT FOR THE GREEN

  133. TxRaider210 Says:

    Raiders waived injured Calhoun, Kurn.

  134. KoolKell Says:

    Klas Troll

    What’s the name of the Big Hotel down on the water in Stockholm?

  135. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    You know who had poor arm strength, Josh McCown.
    ===============================================
    +So did Gannon. Couldn’t throw deep.
    ==============================================

    Gannon had average arm strength. Did he have an arm like Elway? Of course not. And how many SuperBowls did that arm of Elways get him? Zero until a decent running game showed up.
    ==================================================
    ++How many SB’s did Gannon’s lack of an arm get him ? You’re comparing Gannon to Elway now ? I’ll take Elway.
    ===================================================

    Im going to ask you one more time, how much better should Gannon had been in your eyes? He put up HOF caliber numbers when he was designated the starter no matter where he went. He didnt play enough years to be in the HOF obviously but that is besides the point.

    How much better could Gannon have been in 2002? Did his arm cost us the SuperBowl? No way. Ive already said multiple times here that Callahan mysteriously changed the gameplan just a few days before the SuperBowl and completely tossed out what the team had been working on the previous two weeks. We lost that game because of treason!
    ====================================================
    ++Did Gannon’s arm cost us the SB ? No, his FIVE picks WON us the SB and he had a great game. Sheesh. Callahan treason ? You’re really reaching now.
    ================================================

    Exactly what throw could Gannon not make? Should I bring up all of Stabler and Plunketts faults? Their list is a lot longer than one. Which is what Gannons list is if you can even call “not having a Marion arm” and weakness. Both Stabler and Plunkett had slow releases. Release speed is far more important than arm strength.

    And dont even try to tell me that Stabler was more accurate than Gannon. He might have been as accurate, but more accurate? You cant get more accurate than the guy who holds all the career Raider QB records, including QB accuracy. Do you not see how lame your argument sounds?
    ===================================================
    ++Stabler not only was more accurate than Gannon, he was BETTER than Gannon. Snake didn’t play in Gruden’s dink and dunk offense, so his completion percentage naturally would be lower. A good example of stats being misleading and you making an erroneous conclusion based on them. I’m beginning to wonder if you actually saw Stabler play or if you’re just going by stats.
    ==================================================

    How many SuperBowls does Cliff Branch have? You going to tell me he was better than Tim Brown? You have lost your mind if you do.
    ===================================================
    ++Branch has three, countem, three rings. Yes, I’m going to tell you Branch was better than Brown. Different type of rcvr, but Branch was the GREATEST deep threat the Raids ever had, and they had plenty. Branch has a better case for being in the HOF than Brown.
    ==================================================

    Jerry Rice said that Gannon was the best he ever played with. That would mean you feel Stabler was better than Joe Montana or Steve Young? I hate those f@gs just like the next Raider-fan but Im not blind to the fact that they are both legitimate HOF QB’s. How are you going to argue with Jerry Rice?
    ==================================================
    ++This ranks up there with some of the most moronic crap ever posted.
    Pay attention – Rice saying Gannon was the best he ever played with doesn’t mean that RM99 thinks Stabler was better than Montana or Young.
    You not arguing with him means RIFF believes Gannon was better than both. Holy crap, you failed logic 101. You really can’t be this dense, can you ?
    ================================================

    The reason Im hammering on you is because when our debate started days ago, you werent calling Gannon “excellent”. You called him a “noodle arm”. Total disrespect. Gannon has never disrespected the Raiders. He’s offered his help and was turned away. He bleeds silver and black just like us. Now you are willing to admit he was excellent. Great. Had you done that in the first place we wouldnt even be arguing.
    ==================================================
    ++You’re not hammering anyone. You’re just coming off as a Gannon splooge spaterred sycophant.

    Gannon was an excellent QB, despite having a noodle arm. And you know what ? If Al Davis turned Gannon away, maybe he didn’t want Gannon’s help. You don’t know what went on behind the scenes. Al kept other Raider greats around forever. If Gannon became persona non grata like Marcus Allen, there was a reason. You and Richie might not like it, but that’s tough.
    ====================================================

    You can say now that you arent knocking Gannon but you were before. And Twinkie is now.

    Nothing Gannon has ever said about the Raiders wasnt true. So you guys need to lay off of him.

    =================================================
    ++You need to stop telling posters here what they need to do or who they have to lay off of. Gannon is not off limits to knocking. I was saying Gannon was an excellent QB on this forum for YEARS before you arrived, junior. And if anyone wants to be critical of his noodle arm, or talk about his comments about the Raiders that’s fair game.

  136. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Kell, that house seems cheap. Is it in the ghetto? Klas would like to go Hollywood and get California girls. I may be interested.

  137. Thec Says:

    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
    Thec

    Do you see the coaches letting Pryor make more plays in AZ, as opposed to mainly drop backs?

    +++++++

    Down, and distance are the key factors to the play calling and what they will let him do imo.

    I do not want to see them design a bunch of run plays, nakeds that kinda stuff.

    He needs to sit in the pocket and quickly go thru all his progressions.

    He ran mostly the from the shotty, so why not design run some packs from the shotty?

    Hopefully the Oline will be up to the task.

  138. 1960AutumnWind Says:

    Regarding the Post below. I am just not there on dismissing Pryor. I think we need to see him through the preseason. I think TP could be, if the OC wants to do this, a fairly devastating Wildcat QB maybe playing out of the TE position – something teams have never seen. Think of it. TP starts out on left side of line motions to BF to take snap and DM goes into slot. He gets ball and does option read to right side – good luck defending that without prep!

    Another thought. I think it is classy that CP is saying what he said regarding JF and the interception and the drops. I looked at the playback several times and it does appear that the ball sailed through his forearms as it was going down to the S for the interception. CP could have blame shifted but took blame for putting JF in such a hard position. I would say 7/10 times a normal JF makes that play.

    AW

    Dakota Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
    1186.J Hill Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 1:54 pm

    I’m just trying to figure out where this line of stud, or even decent QB prospects is that we will be able to replace Pryor from.
    +++++++

    If you consider a fast guy who can’t throw a QB prospect, well, then the Olympics just ended so you have lots of guys like that.

    Pryor will be kept on as a cheap 3rd string QB this year, and after a year, when he still can’t throw, he will be told to either try the transition to TE, or get cut.

    He has zero future as an NFL QB.

  139. KoolKell Says:

    RaydaSwagger Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 3:38 pm

    You lie.
    How come it doesn’t show up in your listings?
    And never has?
    You can cut and paste the escrow (you are the cut and paste king) yet you don’t.
    Again, you lie.
    —————————-
    Because I represent the Buyer not the Seller, Brien.

    Talk what you know, and let the rest go.

  140. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 3:40 pm
    Klas Troll

    What’s the name of the Big Hotel down on the water in Stockholm?
    —–
    I don’t live in Stockholm. I live near Ostersund.

  141. KoolKell Says:

    Klas

    KoolKell Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 3:40 pm
    Klas Troll

    What’s the name of the Big Hotel down on the water in Stockholm?

  142. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Kell, see #141.

  143. Raider O Says:

    White Devil,

    Why don’t you post the scouting reports on DHB.

    Your experts’ opinions are overrated.

  144. KoolKell Says:

    I don’t live in Stockholm. I live near Ostersund
    ——————–
    Ah ok, right. Lol.

  145. TxRaider210 Says:

    Thec Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 3:41 pm

    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
    Thec

    Do you see the coaches letting Pryor make more plays in AZ, as opposed to mainly drop backs?

    +++++++

    Down, and distance are the key factors to the play calling and what they will let him do imo.

    I do not want to see them design a bunch of run plays, nakeds that kinda stuff.

    He needs to sit in the pocket and quickly go thru all his progressions.

    He ran mostly the from the shotty, so why not design run some packs from the shotty?

    Hopefully the Oline will be up to the task.
    ———————–

    Yep, he should be working from the shotgun imo also. I think the coaches should allow him to run, but only if he’s being pressured a lot.

  146. RaydaSwagger Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 3:38 pm

    Holy Cow! Kell has a listing for the first time in 5 years!

    http://kaneandassociatesrealtors.com/default.asp.f-listings_byagent.agentid-9788
    ==============
    Laughed my azz off seeing that.
    If it sells for asking, which is unlikely, 1.8% of 199.000 means that as of this month, August, Kell might have grossed $3,600.00 for the YEAR.
    Oh.
    Sorry.
    My bad.
    that’s a listing.
    Get no money for listings. You have to actually have it sold.
    Darn. So close.

  147. Raider O Says:

    Gannon threw 5 INTs in the SB!!!!
    Stop creating excuses for that MFer!
    5!!!!

  148. Thec Says:

    Yep, he should be working from the shotgun imo also. I think the coaches should allow him to run, but only if he’s being pressured a lot.

    +++++++++++++

    Yep, as a 4th option, or if his life is in danger.

  149. KoolKell Says:

    I don’t live in Stockholm. I live near Ostersund
    ———————–
    Right across the Bridge from Copenhagen? What distinguishes Copenhagen Bay?

  150. RaydaSwagger Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 3:41 pm

    RaydaSwagger Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 3:38 pm

    You lie.
    How come it doesn’t show up in your listings?
    And never has?
    You can cut and paste the escrow (you are the cut and paste king) yet you don’t.
    Again, you lie.
    —————————-
    Because I represent the Buyer not the Seller, Brien.

    Talk what you know, and let the rest go.
    ——————–
    You are a damn liar.

    Prove me wrong. paste the info with you representing the seller.
    You won’t. Because you lie.

  151. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Kell, I will give you $150,000 for that house.

  152. KoolKell Says:

    RaydaSwagger Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 3:46 pm

    My bad.
    that’s a listing.
    Get no money for listings. You have to actually have it sold.
    Darn. So close.
    —————————
    Both ways you have to have it sold, B. Get your own career, beside stalking me.

  153. realtruraider Says:

    Pryor no doubt will play better Friday, I mean it can’t get much worse. I want to see him sit in the pocket and throw atleast a 20 yard completion, I guess he doesn’t have to be in pocket, just want to see him throw an accurate med to deep pass. They need start him out with some easy completions and get his confidence up first though. Im pulling for the kid, but I have to see alot more than he showed on Monday

  154. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 3:47 pm
    I don’t live in Stockholm. I live near Ostersund
    ———————–
    Right across the Bridge from Copenhagen? What distinguishes Copenhagen Bay?
    —-
    LOL! Ostersund is north of Stockholm. Not close to Copenhagen you big dummy.

  155. KoolKell Says:

    @Klaus

    I don’t live in Stockholm. I live near Ostersund
    ———————–
    Right across the Bridge from Copenhagen? What distinguishes Copenhagen Bay?

  156. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    http://www.lonelyplanet.com/maps/europe/sweden/

    Swedish map

  157. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Kell see #155

  158. Raider Riff Says:

    99,

    So you dont think that Stabler was better than Montana or Steve Young? Hmmmm.

    And Jerry Rice thinks Gannon was better than those two. Hmmmm.

    Case closed.

  159. KoolKell Says:

    Okaaaaaaaay, it’s waaaay out in the boonies.

  160. TxRaider210 Says:

    Klas

    How do you feel about the ladies from Finland?

  161. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 3:57 pm
    Klas

    How do you feel about the ladies from Finland?
    ——-
    There are no ladies in Finland, only cows.

  162. blackandsilverside Says:

    For all you worshippers, Jason Campbell went 2 for 5 and gained 15 yds against the Broncos last Thursday night. And to think you knew what you were talking about when discussing JC…..fiddlesticks!!!

  163. KoolKell Says:

    Maybe you need to get into town more.

  164. Raider Riff Says:

    Raider O Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
    Gannon threw 5 INTs in the SB!!!!
    Stop creating excuses for that MFer!
    5!!!!

    ———————————-

    Excuses? Seriously?

    You got a million excuses for TP. So dont even start when it comes to excuses.

    Gannon’s contributions to the org speak for itself.

    Right now TP looks like a wasted draft pick. We are all HOPING he turns into something else, but it doesnt look good at the moment.

    His footwork could not have been worse. His accuracy was piss poor. His throwing motion is atrocious. He’s had a lot of time to work on his mechanics and it still looks like he is at square one.

    Im rooting for the kid because he’s got unreal potential but he has soooo much work to do. Let’s be honest, he’s way off of what you predicted he’d be. Remember, we debated that you thought he wasnt behind RGIII in development and its clear that he is.

    TP’s mechanics arent going to all of a sudden be drastically improved by Friday.

    You look for any small glimmer of hope that TP has a chance to make it, yet you are focused on the single bad game that Gannon ever had for us. Other than the SB, can you ever think of a game that he lost us? No. And that is ignoring the conspiracy theories regarding Callahan but if you take those into consideration Gannon might not have been the reason we lost that game.

    Excuses? You got ‘em for days with your boy TP.

  165. TxRaider210 Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 4:00 pm

    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 3:57 pm
    Klas

    How do you feel about the ladies from Finland?
    ——-
    There are no ladies in Finland, only cows.
    ———-

    LMAO! Too funny

  166. RaydaSwagger Says:

    Kell
    The selling agents broker would share commission with the broker representing the buyer.
    that would be Kane, you doofus.
    If a seller agrees to 7%, kane might get 3%, of which you get 1.8%.
    And you would have it listed, because it’s a feather in any agents cap to show they actually have BUSINESS.
    Again. You lie.
    Last listing you had, years ago, sat for almost a year before the owner fired you, giving it to another agent, WHO ACTUALLY WORKED.

  167. DutchRaider77 Says:

    And Jerry Rice thinks Gannon was better than those two. Hmmmm.

    ___________________________________________________

    Love to see the quote that Jerry Rice said that Rich Gannon was better than Montana and Young? Did he tell you personally?

  168. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Norwegian girls are good looking but they are dirty.

  169. KoolKell Says:

    RaydaSwagger Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 4:03 pm
    Kell
    The selling agents broker would share commission with the broker representing the buyer.
    that would be Kane, you doofus.
    If a seller agrees to 7%, kane might get 3%, of which you get 1.8%.
    And you would have it listed, because it’s a feather in any agents cap to show they actually have BUSINESS.
    Again. You lie.
    Last listing you had, years ago, sat for almost a year before the owner fired you, giving it to another agent, WHO ACTUALLY WORKED.
    ———————-
    Go fk yourself Brien, don’t tell me my business.

    GET YOUR OWN FKING LIFE.

  170. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Kell, I will buy your house if you give me the Jerry’s Kids’ deal.

  171. TxRaider210 Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 4:03 pm

    Norwegian girls are good looking but they are dirty.
    ————————-

    Dirty as in, dirty bottoms of the feet, or dirty that requires anti-biotics?

  172. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Drop your asking price by $50,000. I will give you $2,000 down payment. We have deal, no?

  173. Raider O Says:

    5 INTs in the SB.
    Get over it!

  174. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 4:05 pm
    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 4:03 pm

    Norwegian girls are good looking but they are dirty.
    ————————-

    Dirty as in, dirty bottoms of the feet, or dirty that requires anti-biotics?
    ——-
    They are dirty hoes.

  175. KoolKell Says:

    Klas, it sounds like it’s out of your price-range, but thanks, it’s already sold.

  176. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Kell, let me know in 5 years when you get another listing. :)

  177. TxRaider210 Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 4:06 pm

    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 4:05 pm
    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 4:03 pm

    Norwegian girls are good looking but they are dirty.
    ————————-

    Dirty as in, dirty bottoms of the feet, or dirty that requires anti-biotics?
    ——-
    They are dirty hoes.
    ———–
    But I could still visit the region for Troll hunting and disco!lol

  178. Thec Says:

    BREAKING NEWS;

    Jets | Chaz Schilens absent from practice Wed Aug 15, 01:20 PM

    New York Jets WR Chaz Schilens (ankle) did not take part in practice Wednesday, Aug. 15.

  179. TxRaider210 Says:

    Raider O Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 4:05 pm

    5 INTs in the SB.
    Get over it!
    ———-
    Five dolla…five..

  180. KoolKell Says:

    Klas

    I have one now in East Oakland you might like. I could send you info on a lender, so you can get pre-approved…….Holla.

  181. Raider O Says:

    Gannon is Soooo Greattt, it only took him 10 years before he started a full season.
    LMAO

  182. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Tx, you are always welcome in Ostersund. We will hunt for Trolls and Swedish poon tang.

  183. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Kell, East Oakland sounds scary.

  184. Raider O Says:

    Even a QB like Orton had a good season with the right system.
    Stop it.

  185. JLofty Says:

    “I love to Travel Internationally.”

    When did the words, travel and international, become proper nouns?

  186. TxRaider210 Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 4:09 pm

    Tx, you are always welcome in Ostersund. We will hunt for Trolls and Swedish poon tang.
    ====================
    And if we happen to catch both, was a damn fine day in the land of Ice and Snow!

  187. DutchRaider77 Says:

    Gannon is Soooo Greattt, it only took him 10 years before he started a full season.
    LMAO

    _________________________________________________

    Crazy that Jerry Rice has never touched the “who is the better QB Joe Montana or Steve Rice,” but he would go on the rcord saying Rich Gannon is better than both? Find it highly unlikely….

  188. Raider O Says:

    Riff,

    You do realize we are talking about Gannon and not TP right?

  189. KoolKell Says:

    JLofty Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 4:11 pm

    “I love to Travel Internationally.”
    ————————
    Broadens the perspective.

  190. DutchRaider77 Says:

    186.TxRaider210 Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 4:09 pm

    Tx, you are always welcome in Ostersund. We will hunt for Trolls and Swedish poon tang.
    ====================
    And if we happen to catch both, was a damn fine day in the land of Ice and Snow!

    ________________________________________________

    Just watch the drinking, don’t want to confuse which is which…

  191. RaiderDuck Says:

    Something else to remember about European girls: a lot of them don’t believe in deodorant. Take it from someone who once had to spend a 5-hour plane ride next to a very nice Yugoslavian girl (with her exchange class); as the flight went on, it was apparent that her and Mrs. Speed Stick had never met.

    Also, my freshman year of college (23 years ago now), a friend of a friend had a roommate from…some eastern European country. The BO would knock you over as soon as you walked in the room.

  192. JLofty Says:

    “Norwegian girls are good looking but they are dirty.”

    He says that like its a bad thing….

  193. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
    It was Palmer’s fault, he threw it.

    I just agree with Coach Allen that Jacoby kind of half-azzed it and didn’t help his QB.
    =====================================================
    Course it was Palmer’s fault. And I agree Ford could have done more to try to break it up and that he also loafed in chasing Sensabaugh down.

    I like TIM being accountable and taking the blame for the pick, even after DA was willing to let him off the hook by accepting the throw.

    Have no problem with DA saying it was a good play call.
    Have no problem with him saying the Raids have to take shots down the field and will do it again.

    Have a huge problem with him absolving TIM for attempting to make throw on a play that wasn’t there.

    The fact that TIM is willing to be accountable even though DA gave him an out, reassures me that’s there’s hope he can quit being TIM and start being Carson again.

  194. RaydaSwagger Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 4:04 pm

    RaydaSwagger Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 4:03 pm
    Kell
    The selling agents broker would share commission with the broker representing the buyer.
    that would be Kane, you doofus.
    If a seller agrees to 7%, kane might get 3%, of which you get 1.8%.
    And you would have it listed, because it’s a feather in any agents cap to show they actually have BUSINESS.
    Again. You lie.
    Last listing you had, years ago, sat for almost a year before the owner fired you, giving it to another agent, WHO ACTUALLY WORKED.
    ———————-
    Go fk yourself Brien, don’t tell me my business.

    GET YOUR OWN FKING LIFE.
    =========
    Anyone can tell you your business.
    It’s a very simple concept.
    If I was wrong, you would point it out. You don’t, because you can’t.
    Let me help you.
    Fact: Real estate success is tied to working hard, full time.
    You sit on your fatazz, posting on blogs, full time.
    Every single agent always shows what listings they have going on. EVERY SINGLE ONE. It’s advertising. Key to getting business.
    You have no listings because you are a kept man, waiting at home for the bowser to bring home groceries.
    Aren’t you embarrassed to be a man?

  195. Raider O Says:

    Tx,

    LOL
    5?!?!

  196. TxRaider210 Says:

    DutchRaider77 Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 4:13 pm

    186.TxRaider210 Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 4:09 pm

    Tx, you are always welcome in Ostersund. We will hunt for Trolls and Swedish poon tang.
    ====================
    And if we happen to catch both, was a damn fine day in the land of Ice and Snow!

    ________________________________________________

    Just watch the drinking, don’t want to confuse which is which…
    ———————-
    Very true, can’t get caught humping a troll and not a shorty in the ice forest.

  197. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    http://www.csnbayarea.com/sportsnetBayArea/search/v/40205445/jerry-rice-joe-montana-steve-young-or-rich-gannon.htm

  198. DutchRaider77 Says:

    @RaiderDuck
    Went to the Ukraine and friend took me to a strip club, the one I picked had horrible breath and body odor…killed the experience.

  199. JLofty Says:

    My wife is American and I JUST turned her on to men’s deoderant. Whatever that girl stuff she’d been using for the last 10-12 years was NOT cutting it. Took a lot of persuasion but….DANG. Now even the Degree is not quite up to the the task. Poor lady.

  200. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Very true, can’t get caught humping a troll and not a shorty in the ice forest.
    ——–
    True, Kell knows all about that. Am I right?

  201. Raider O Says:

    JLofty Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 4:17 pm
    My wife is American and I JUST turned her on to men’s deoderant. Whatever that girl stuff she’d been using for the last 10-12 years was NOT cutting it. Took a lot of persuasion but….DANG. Now even the Degree is not quite up to the the task. Poor lady.
    $$$$$$$$

    ROFLMAO
    You People…..

  202. Plunketthead Says:

    KK
    Who you got in the big game tonight?

    Ole!
    Ole!
    Ole!

  203. TxRaider210 Says:

    A wise, fat guy once told me to rub baking soda under the pits while you shower, won’t sweat all day.

  204. Plunketthead Says:

    You need a new realtor pic. The Gomer Pyle look went out in the 60’s

  205. JLofty Says:

    I just hope Terrel Pryor gets some reps in at TE soon. We NEED him there! And soon. I am starting to get worried about Greg Knapp’s offense already.
    Maybe his boring play calling will be evened out by Carson Bomber’s gunslinging ways….

  206. RaiderDuck Says:

    JLofty Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 4:17 pm
    My wife is American and I JUST turned her on to men’s deoderant. Whatever that girl stuff she’d been using for the last 10-12 years was NOT cutting it. Took a lot of persuasion but….DANG. Now even the Degree is not quite up to the the task. Poor lady.

    =============================================

    Try Lady Mitchum.

  207. JLofty Says:

    Yeah Tx, that work? As a good husband I want to help my lady out any way I can. That and I have an acute sense of smell….
    Wonder if it works in other places too….

  208. Raider O Says:

    Plunk,

    You can’t say OLE. You are not a Spaniard. lol
    Ole
    Ole
    Ole
    ITALYA!

  209. KoolKell Says:

    The Ice forests are not for me, I’m a city Injun.

  210. JLofty Says:

    Idk Duck, lady nothing has worked to this point. I was bummed to see the Degree fail too. I may give her some of my Old Spice Swagger!!

  211. DutchRaider77 Says:

    I just hope Terrel Pryor gets some reps in at TE soon. We NEED him there! And soon. I am starting to get worried about Greg Knapp’s offense already.
    Maybe his boring play calling will be evened out by Carson Bomber’s gunslinging ways….

    ________________________________________________

    I was amazed watching Pryor moving and scrambling in the pocket…until he threw the ball, cringe. Willing to give him some time.

    But my real question is, if TP was going to move positions, why TE? Wouldn’t he be a receiver?

  212. RaiderDuck Says:

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/15/chad-johnson-wasnt-the-only-one-with-televised-hurt-feelings/

    PFT is reporting the Dolphins are about to cut TE Michael Egnew, their third-round pick. Might he be worth kicking the tires on?

  213. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Klas has to go to bed now. No late night at the discotheque today. God natt och svett drömmar!

  214. JLofty Says:

    What big game?

  215. Raider O Says:

    They make clinical strength deodorant. Try that.

  216. JLofty Says:

    I think you are splitting hairs Dutch. Pryor will be there solely to catch passes no matter whether he lines up tight on the line or split out…

  217. JLofty Says:

    Where does one obtain the clinical strength, O?

  218. TxRaider210 Says:

    JLofty Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 4:23 pm

    Yeah Tx, that work? As a good husband I want to help my lady out any way I can. That and I have an acute sense of smell….
    Wonder if it works in other places too….
    ================
    On the real, I tried it once and didn’t sweat at all, why Arm n Hammer has a deodorant. Straight baking soda can fix a broken heart.lol

  219. TxRaider210 Says:

    Later Klas roc it like a Swede!

  220. Thec Says:

    JLofty Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 4:23 pm
    Yeah Tx, that work? As a good husband I want to help my lady out any way I can. That and I have an acute sense of smell….
    Wonder if it works in other places too….

    ++++++

    When using baking soda be careful. It has an active ingredient sodium bicarbonate or NaHCO3. On very sensative skin NaHC03 will give you a burning irrating sensation.

    Do not attempt

  221. Raider Riff Says:

    99,

    So Gannon played in a dink and dunk offense that padded his stats huh?

    Yards per completion for Gannon when he was with the Vikes: 11.5

    Yards per completion for Gannon when he was with the Chiefs: 11.0

    Yards per completion for Gannon when he was with us: 11.5

    Gannons numbers were the same or higher in the years he started for KC or Minn and didnt play in a “dink and dunk” offense.

    Stablers career yards per completion in his 10 years with us: 12.8

    Not a drastic difference for a guy who couldnt throw deep and had a noodle arm.

    Yards gained per pass attempt favors Gannon by a slim margin.

    Keep arguing. This is fun. Every post you make gets dumber and dumber.

    99’s logic goes like this… “Throwing deep” makes one QB better than the other. Stats dont tell the story unless you are tallying team awards like SuperBowl trophies. And Gannon had the same weak arm that Josh McCown did.

    You still wont answer my question as to how much better should Gannon have been.

    And you still dont really want me to bring up the faults of Stabler and Plunkett. All you got is your false claim that Gannon had a weak arm. Stabler and Plunkett had slow releases and Stabler was immobile as heck. Had Stabler spent less time by the light of a juke box and more time preparing for games, we would have dominated the 70s.

  222. KoolKell Says:

    How about we talk politics, rather than under arm odor?

  223. TxRaider210 Says:

    Thec Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 4:29 pm

    JLofty Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 4:23 pm
    Yeah Tx, that work? As a good husband I want to help my lady out any way I can. That and I have an acute sense of smell….
    Wonder if it works in other places too….

    ++++++

    When using baking soda be careful. It has an active ingredient sodium bicarbonate or NaHCO3. On very sensative skin NaHC03 will give you a burning irrating sensation.

    Do not attempt
    ————————–
    Yeah but that’s for sensitive skin, I know a few people who use it and always have.

  224. Plunketthead Says:

    The true meaning of ole!
    http://animom.tripod.com/bullolemed.jpg

  225. Thec Says:

    Do not attempt
    ————————–
    Yeah but that’s for sensitive skin, I know a few people who use it and always have.

    ++++++++++

    The Do not attempt was an error.

    I happen to use this method as well.

  226. Plunketthead Says:

    Big game = USA at Mexico

  227. JLofty Says:

    Comparing players two or three decades apart is a fool’s errand.
    Gannon’s ypa is good because the guy was hella accurate and also threw to the right reciever more often than not.
    Stabler was a stud swagger who called his own plays in an age where they actually had double days, no QB is off limits rules and a million other diffs, so I don’t think his nighttime lifestyle choices were a huge thing either way….

  228. TxRaider210 Says:

    Thec Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 4:33 pm

    Do not attempt
    ————————–
    Yeah but that’s for sensitive skin, I know a few people who use it and always have.

    ++++++++++

    The Do not attempt was an error.

    I happen to use this method as well.
    —————–

    Yeah man, there’s a whole world of folks who swear by baking soda for deo and teeth.

  229. Thec Says:

    RaiderDuck Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/15/chad-johnson-wasnt-the-only-one-with-televised-hurt-feelings/

    PFT is reporting the Dolphins are about to cut TE Michael Egnew, their third-round pick. Might he be worth kicking the tires on?

    ++++++++

    He must be hurt.

  230. JLofty Says:

    Thanks, I might have her try that. I been taking shots of that stuff (baking soda) for acid in the tummy and despite it tasting like $#it stuff works…

    Go USA!! We won the last game if I am not mistaken.

    But the real news is Iceland – 2 Faroe Islands – 0
    Shutout, take that Faroe b!tches!!!

  231. Thec Says:

    JLofty Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
    Comparing players two or three decades apart is

    “a fool’s errand”

    ++++++++++

    Hey man can I use this quote in the future?

  232. MistaBrown Says:

    Palmer is a standup guy taking the heat for J Ford. We all know it wasn’t your fault CP.

    #leader

  233. Seymour Bush Says:

    Thec Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 4:36 pm

    RaiderDuck Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/15/chad-johnson-wasnt-the-only-one-with-televised-hurt-feelings/

    PFT is reporting the Dolphins are about to cut TE Michael Egnew, their third-round pick. Might he be worth kicking the tires on?
    ==========================================

    Absolutely.

  234. Raider O Says:

    JLofty Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
    Where does one obtain the clinical strength, O?
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Most places have them.
    Target, any pharmacy, walmart, etc…
    You will know when you see one. Theyhave a fancy package, and they cost $7+

  235. Raider Riff Says:

    Raider O Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
    Gannon is Soooo Greattt, it only took him 10 years before he started a full season.
    LMAO

    ——————-

    You do realize that is something you would hear a Bronco fan say right?

  236. Kirk Says:

    Cut Lechler and use the money to sign a good running back.

  237. Seymour Bush Says:

    But they are not letting Egnew go.

  238. Raider O Says:

    LOL Plunk.

  239. TxRaider210 Says:

    Sign Egnew Reg, he’s pissed for being on Hardknocks and getting clowned on.

  240. Thec Says:

    Good Positives, negatives video on Michel Egnew

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diclp2_25ys

  241. Raider O Says:

    Raider Riff Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
    Raider O Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
    Gannon is Soooo Greattt, it only took him 10 years before he started a full season.
    LMAO

    ——————-

    You do realize that is something you would hear a Bronco fan say right?
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$!

    Yeah Buddy. I’m a Broncos fan trying to gather intel from You People.
    He was a great QB, but NFL coaches didn’t want to give him a chance because they don’t like to win and they are racist. They don’t like athletic QBs who are white.

  242. inonewordraider Says:

    rooting for mexico, why? the only two sports mexico ever wins at are boxing and soccer (and lately about half the time). just give mex those two.

    on another note our corners are average at best made worse by no edge rusher, don’t see us getting “coverage” sacks. Also Carson throws alotta picks wondering if he’ll keep the # down…

  243. Thec Says:

    Other intel on Michael Egnew;

    http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/playerbreakingnews.asp?sport=NFL&id=7505&line=238038&spln=1

  244. Raider O Says:

    Gannon = White W Moon
    Poor guy.

  245. raiderinparadise Says:

    Kirk Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
    Cut Lechler and use the money to sign a good running back.

    ———-

    King looks very promising BUT Lechler is a legend and also played with Dennnis Allen at Texas A&M … can’t see that happening.

    When Goodson and Jones are healthy will be just fine.

  246. RaydaSwagger Says:

    Plunketthead Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 4:21 pm

    You need a new realtor pic. The Gomer Pyle look went out in the 60’s
    ===========
    That’s when the pic was taken. Gomer Pyle Uncle Tom Spongebob Squarepants doofus look.

  247. TxRaider210 Says:

    That’s why this is America! We can bag on Gannon for bagging the Raiders, yet it’s just our opinions.

  248. KoolKell Says:

    Let’s hope Goodson looks better than Lonyae Miller did.

  249. inonewordraider Says:

    Thec Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
    BREAKING NEWS;

    Jets | Chaz Schilens absent from practice Wed Aug 15, 01:20 PM

    New York Jets WR Chaz Schilens (ankle) did not take part in practice Wednesday, Aug. 15.

    ……………………..

    what’s next murphy’s dropping passes in camp?

  250. TxRaider210 Says:

    KK

    Goody>Miller ..all day long man

  251. Raider O Says:

    Gannon was an avg QB who excelled in the right system like Orton with J McDaniels’ system.

  252. TxRaider210 Says:

    I’m out ya’ll have a good one Nation!

  253. Plunketthead Says:

    <—— rooting for the USA Raiders

  254. Plunketthead Says:

    Hard to believe the Jets expect Chaz to be their #2 WR

  255. realtruraider Says:

    PFT is reporting the Dolphins are about to cut TE Michael Egnew, their third-round pick. Might he be worth kicking the tires on?

    ++++++++

    He must be hurt.

    ———————————————–

    I don’t think he’s hurt. Have you guy’s not watched Hard Knocks? The guy doesn’t look good at all, his strength is suppose to be catching and he can’t even do that and his blocking is just horrible I guess. There’s a reason they are cutting him, if we bring in a TE it should be one that can play now not some project, we have enough of those at TE already.

  256. raiderinparadise Says:

    Raider O Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 4:54 pm
    Gannon was an avg QB who excelled in the right system like Orton with J McDaniels’ system.

    ———

    Stupid comment.

    Did Orton win a league MVP and set NFL records? No. Was Orton a top 3 QB in the league for 3 straight years?

    Gannon was a fiery leader, a film rat, a disciplined perfectionist that also used his legs to move the chains.

    Gannon was a great QB, accurate and great before the snap.

    Orton? really?

  257. KoolKell Says:

    Orton<Rich Gannon

  258. JLofty Says:

    O, I say ALL great QBs are products of the system (and era) with which they had opportunity to excel in. Gannon’s greatest skill had NOTHING to do with his athletic or physical attributes. And most EVERYTHING to do with his work ethic, and ability to consume Gruden’s complex system.
    Gannon was hella accurate though and thus a good fit for Jon’s QB.
    You drop Marino into Bill Walsh’s lap in 1980 and you don’t get magic. For either guy. Gotta have both to make magic. System and skills, that match…

  259. JLofty Says:

    And sure Thec, free to use anything I type at any time.
    That one is not my creation though…

  260. Thec Says:

    Egnew played in a gimmick, and his blocking is horrible. No way I would take a flyer on him, at this point.

  261. Whats a Drexl? Says:

    It is such a pleasant breath of sweet autumn air, to not have to listen to the garden known yap on about “building bullies”.

    I am excited for the development of this team. Calling out TK and RS to mentor Bilukidi on the secrets to succeeding at the NFL level. Classic.

  262. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    Raider Riff Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
    99,

    So you dont think that Stabler was better than Montana or Steve Young? Hmmmm.

    And Jerry Rice thinks Gannon was better than those two. Hmmmm.

    Case closed.

    ==================================================
    What case is closed ?

    Are you high or just incredibly dense ?

    You posted that Rice said Gannon was the best he ever played with. That would mean better than Montana and Young.

    Somehow, based on what you claim Rice said, you came to the conclusion that I thought Stabler was better than Montana and Rice. Where’s the connection, Riff ?

    If Jerry Rice thinks Gannon was better than Montana and Rice, that means RM99 thinks Stabler is better than Montana and Rice ? Great logic there, Einstein.

    I’m saying Stabler was better than Gannon. What Rice thinks of Gannon doesn’t determine what I think about Stabler in relation to Montana and Rice.

    Even if I did think Stabler was better than Montana and Rice, how the fk would you get that from Rice’s supposed quote about Gannon ?

    You’re the idiot that’s saying you can’t argue with Rice, so apparently YOU believe Gannon was better than Montana and Young.

    The case IS closed. You’re an idiot.

  263. Thec Says:

    “A fool’s errand” will become a blog classic…

  264. Raider O Says:

    Stupid,

    It was an example of another QB who didn’t play well, but excelled in a certain system.
    Btw, it took Gannon 10 years to start a full session, so who knows what will Orton do in a few years. (it’s s joke stupid).

  265. Raider O Says:

    Season*

  266. Raider O Says:

    Ohhhh Gannon
    Gannon is so great ohhhhh
    It only took him 10 years to start a full season.
    Put him in the HOF!

  267. JLofty Says:

    WE get a LOT of errands around these parts…

  268. Plunketthead Says:

    Lots of empty seats after making a big deal about the place is always packed with 100,000 people. It looks half empty

  269. Raider O Says:

    JLofty Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 5:02 pm
    O, I say ALL great QBs are products of the system (and era) with which they had opportunity to excel in. Gannon’s greatest skill had NOTHING to do with his athletic or physical attributes. And most EVERYTHING to do with his work ethic, and ability to consume Gruden’s complex system.
    Gannon was hella accurate though and thus a good fit for Jon’s QB.
    You drop Marino into Bill Walsh’s lap in 1980 and you don’t get magic. For either guy. Gotta have both to make magic. System and skills, that match…
    $$$$$$$$

    Good post, but I don’t agree about the Marino point. Elite QBs can succeed in any system IMO.

  270. Plunketthead Says:

    Mexico is cheating already and the refs are not calling it

  271. DutchRaider77 Says:

    Good post, but I don’t agree about the Marino point. Elite QBs can succeed in any system IMO.

    __________________________________________________

    So Denver should stick to the Tebow play-book from last year?(Kidding, but would like to see it happen)

  272. DJ Johnny Says:

    130.Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 3:38 pm
    Holy Cow! Kell has a listing for the first time in 5 years!

    http://kaneandassociatesrealtors.com/default.asp.f-listings_byagent.agentid-9788

    No way this guy is 60 yrs. old.

  273. Raidernationdave Says:

    Fck, “O’s” gotta be suicidal by now!

  274. KoolKell Says:

    DJ Johnny, who did you used to post as?

  275. RaydaSwagger Says:

    DJ Johnny Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 5:18 pm

    130.Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 3:38 pm
    Holy Cow! Kell has a listing for the first time in 5 years!

    http://kaneandassociatesrealtors.com/default.asp.f-listings_byagent.agentid-9788

    No way this guy is 60 yrs. old.
    ============
    Uncle Tom has used the same pic for 30 yrs.
    He thinks people won’t notice the bags around his eyes, the droopy jowls, and the elephant ears he now has.

  276. JLofty Says:

    Dang. I hope these Sierra thunderstorms don’t de-rail my softball game. Yesterday afternoon we got nearly one inch of water in less than an hour here in Truckee…not sure if that counted all the hail balls tho…

  277. RaydaSwagger Says:

    Kell? Again, where’s the cut and paste of you handling the million$ property?
    And why again is it not listed as current prop you are working on?
    Besides you lying, that is?

  278. Raider O Says:

    DutchRaider77 Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
    Good post, but I don’t agree about the Marino point. Elite QBs can succeed in any system IMO.

    __________________________________________________

    So Denver should stick to the Tebow play-book from last year?(Kidding, but would like to see it happen)
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    LOL

  279. DJ Johnny Says:

    274.KoolKell Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
    DJ Johnny, who did you used to post as?

    I used to post as djohnnyg…that’s it.

    And RealMadden Raider of course….(kidding).

  280. raiderinparadise Says:

    Raider O Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
    Ohhhh Gannon
    Gannon is so great ohhhhh
    It only took him 10 years to start a full season.
    Put him in the HOF!

    ———-
    I can picture you still wearing your RUSSELL jersey.

  281. Raider O Says:

    Whut up HO?
    What do you think of Gannon.
    A great QB, or an avg/ solid QB in the right system?

  282. KoolKell Says:

    When you get your Real Estate license, Brien, study hard, you have your own answers.

  283. Whats a Drexl? Says:

    Gannon?

    When ever I think about Gannon, I come to the same crystal clear thought.
    Gannon ended his career in Oakland the same way Glow did.
    Nursing a shoulder, and neither owning a super bowl ring.

    Just pray CP doesnt suffer the same fate.

  284. Raider O Says:

    Raiderinparadise Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
    Raider O Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
    Ohhhh Gannon
    Gannon is so great ohhhhh
    It only took him 10 years to start a full season.
    Put him in the HOF!

    ———-
    I can picture you still wearing your RUSSELL jersey.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
    LOL
    I bought one, but I didn’t wear it.

  285. KoolKell Says:

    Yes, I’m 60. My RE pic, Brien keeps posting was taken in 2008′ I think. ;-)

    Handsome ne?

  286. JLofty Says:

    Okay O, I am cool with disagree but I see TONS of QBs come to the NFL and FAIL. That’s what makes Dakota’s “prediction” about TP such a non-starter. You could say that about most ANY QB and be correct.
    But I still think to have elite performances as a QB you must be matched with a coaching talent/genius that can exploit your particular skills.
    Tell me what do you think happens to 7th round pick Tom Brady if he gets drafted by Al Davis on Art Shell’s B&B teams? I’d say he ends up like Andrew Walter almost EXACTLY…

  287. JLofty Says:

    Kell is that vasoline smeared all over the camera lens in 2008′

  288. DJ Johnny Says:

    I give u credit for posting your real info Kell.

    I allowed the blog a glimpse into my own weird life and nobody really cared so you should feel good that u get so much publicity.

  289. KoolKell Says:

    JLofty Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 5:33 pm

    Kell is that vasoline smeared all over the camera lens in 2008′
    ————–
    They called it a “soft focus” lens back then. ;-)

  290. No Mas Diamante Says:

    Pryor should be used as a wildcat, redzone qb and a tight end (like the jets are going to do with tebow) until he’s able to prove that he is a starting NFL caliber qb. He is too gifted athletically to keep on the sidelines all season. He has the skills to help this team, but is he willing to do it?

  291. KoolKell Says:

    DJ Johnny Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
    I give u credit for posting your real info Kell.

    I allowed the blog a glimpse into my own weird life and nobody really cared so you should feel good that u get so much publicity.
    ———————
    I took it down about 4 yrs ago. But it generated a lot of groupies.

  292. Whats a Drexl? Says:

    Who gives a flying cat poop about how goofy krappy looks, or what a fail he is at selling real-estate.

    I cant believe that same old link is being posted, this blog must have a reset button that i’m unaware of.

  293. JLofty Says:

    Come on DJ, it must have been a slow day, surely we have enough stalkers and weirdos around here to make you regret doing something that dumb.
    Maybe you should try being a passive aggressive @$$hole too that might increase your stalker uptake…

  294. JLofty Says:

    Off to a cold Mickey’s Big Mouth/Piston and hopefully another victory for our 10-0 team. Better lucky than good I always say…

  295. Just Fire Baby Says:

    #262

    Man that is one screwy puzzle!!!

    I had to read it like 3 times just to figure out the train of rationale.

    I still am not sure I got it, lol

  296. realtruraider Says:

    Tell me what do you think happens to 7th round pick Tom Brady if he gets drafted by Al Davis on Art Shell’s B&B teams? I’d say he ends up like Andrew Walter almost EXACTLY…
    ——————————————————

    LOL! I don’t know if I would go that far, If I remember the great Belicheat got his paws on Walters for a lil bit and kicked his @ss out of camp faster than a mutha fka. It should work both ways than, no?

  297. JLofty Says:

    No, Walter was damaged goods by then…

  298. Raider O Says:

    JLofty,

    Great points today bro.
    Do you think Manning will not be an elite QB in Denver (healthy), or do you think they have a talented HC/ OC?
    I agree with you 100% about Brady. They have a QB friendly offense there. It wasn’t only TB who had success in that system.

  299. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I have a few facebook friends on here, who have a glimpse into the greatness of me.

    A few others I have exchanged emails with who know my real name.

    No issues.

    Kool, you need to pick your friends a little more carefully!!!!

  300. KoolKell Says:

    Lol.

  301. raiderinparadise Says:

    3 weeks till I land in OAKTOWN !!!!!

  302. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Actually, only had one issue.

    I placed a wager on here with some dude, I forget his troll name, and we exchanged e-mails.

    Well he pissed backwards on the wager, and called me by my first name in here. Nobody really caught wind.

    Googled his email address, and he was getting in type fights on youtube rap video comment sections, lol. Probably should have done that google search first.

  303. blackandsilverside Says:

    realtruraider Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 5:42 pm
    Tell me what do you think happens to 7th round pick Tom Brady if he gets drafted by Al Davis on Art Shell’s B&B teams? I’d say he ends up like Andrew Walter almost EXACTLY…
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Brady would have been out of football years ago – an unmitigated failure.

    AD, in the last years, couldn’t do anything right, suffering from organic brain degeneration such that he was.

    I have a friend who is a medical doctor and exclusively specializes in oncology. He says in one’s final time before death his/her true character comes out very distinctly whether good or bad.

    AD blew it time and time again; his partners should have kicked him to the curb for incompetence.

  304. DJ Johnny Says:

    293.JLofty Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
    Come on DJ, it must have been a slow day, surely we have enough stalkers and weirdos around here to make you regret doing something that dumb.
    Maybe you should try being a passive aggressive @$$hole too that might increase your stalker uptake…

    I was trying to include blog “bro’s” in on a “salute” I was doing for Al Davis when he died. I’d thought it would be a cool thing to do, but noone really cared so..oh well.

    I really am not overly concerned about bloggers knowing more about me. I wish I could get to know some of the guys here better.

    Alot of blogs, or forums etc. let you post avatars, pics etc. It’d be kind of cool if we could do that here too.

    It doesn’t mean people have to post their most intimate details etc. Or where they live etc.

  305. Carl Weathers Says:

    Regardless of what happens the next 3 games , we need to add a TE and a CB. When the patsies shape up their 53, they’ll have to let go at least one TE and we should pick whomever that is.
    As far as the corner, to many unknowns throughout our current bunch. It’ll be a little harder to find one that can start but there will have to be someone cut that can be a nickel corner just in case CC & DVD can’t get the Job done.

  306. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    Riff, I’m still trying to get over the comical assumption you made that if Jerry Rice said that Gannon was the best he ever played with, that must mean RM99 believes Stabler was better than Montana.

    That’s an awesome Sherlock Holmes like deduction.

    Seriously, I’d rather try to explain to a hamster why we only see one side of the moon than waste time trying to have a rational debate with you.

    Just no point in arguing with you.

    But I have to know, do you actually believe Gannon was better than Montana ?

  307. Raider O Says:

    Maybe you should try being a passive aggressive @$$hole too that might increase your stalker uptake…
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    LOL
    You People ate funny.

  308. Raider O Says:

    Are*
    Smart phone my a$$.

  309. realtruraider Says:

    @303

    Just to be clear you didn’t respond to me, I did not post that or believe that. There are QB’s that are winners and can play in almost any system and succeed

  310. Raider O Says:

    Chico,

    I’m going to google your name, if you don’t mind. Is your pic posted on your FB account?

  311. realtruraider Says:

    @Backside

    Your a fkin Dumb@ss

  312. KoolKell Says:

    You get people fixated on ya.

  313. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I’m going to google your name, if you don’t mind

    **************************

    On my findthebest.com link, I don’t actually manage $25 billion dollars, that’s my firm.

    Looks great though doesn’t it!!!!

  314. blackandsilverside Says:

    Reportedly, Reggie Mac has spoken to Usain Bolt about trying out for wide receiver.

    No joke!

  315. Just Fire Baby Says:

    O,

    You can send me an email and I can send you my FB info.

    It’s a joint page with the wifey, so don’t think you will find it under just my name.

  316. Raider O Says:

    LOL Chico.

  317. blackandsilverside Says:

    DJ Johnny,

    Did you watch J. Campbell play in the Bears’ exhibition game on Thursday?

  318. Raider O Says:

    Chico,

    I will bro. Do you have a LinkedIn account. I don’t have a FB account.

  319. Just Fire Baby Says:

    No linkedin account.

    Barely use the FB page, but the wife has a bunch of pics on there.

  320. Raider O Says:

    I will send you an email when I use my laptop. I’m using my phone now.

  321. Raider O Says:

    I’ll send you a pic too. lol

  322. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 5:48 pm
    Actually, only had one issue.

    I placed a wager on here with some dude, I forget his troll name, and we exchanged e-mails.

    Well he pissed backwards on the wager, and called me by my first name in here. Nobody really caught wind.
    ==============================================
    You actually won a bet ?

    What was the bet ?

  323. MEX_GHOST Says:

    308.Raider O Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 5:53 pm
    Are*
    Smart phone my a$$.
    ———————————
    LOL
    I don´t use my smartphone typing in FB or forward in my mail anymore. You send only fool things.
    I can figure out an “ATE FUNNY” escene with Jim Carrey.

  324. KoolKell Says:

    You guys get a room, and use condoms, ok?

  325. MEX_GHOST Says:

    and use condoms???
    —————————
    No, the “Natural” things are better guys, condoms are for paranoic people. LOL. Just kidding.

  326. Raider O Says:

    I like to know what you people look like, so it’s only fair/ and comforting to do the same.

  327. Raider O Says:

    MEX,

    I still use it to send regular emails (friends and family), but not for business unless I have to.

  328. Just Fire Baby Says:

    You actually won a bet ?

    ***********************

    Ouch!!!!

    It was after the Pitt game in 2010, I bet (Teabag was his “name”) that Bruce would start the next week (against Miami), even if Soup was healthy.

    He did of course, but the guy was trying to get off on some technicality that he said I said in an email and never payed up.

  329. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I even gave him 2 to 1 odds!!!!!

    Also bet Thec, who ended up mailing me an envelope of cash.

    Still owe B a quarter ozer, which I will get some canny club for him in December.

  330. DJ Johnny Says:

    317.blackandsilverside Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 6:01 pm
    DJ Johnny,

    Did you watch J. Campbell play in the Bears’ exhibition game on Thursday?

    I did. He was unimpressive. So was Bush…he fumbled away his first carry.

  331. blackandsilverside Says:

    Wow……I guess they looked the same way the Raiders did.

  332. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Bush was disappointing, but Soup was Soup.

    I wouldn’t be suprised if he is playing third string in game 3, to see if McCown is a better option as the backup.

  333. Raider O Says:

    $3.5 million for a 3rd string QB towards the end of his career, and you people are complaining about the young and talented TP who is making $465,000?

  334. Just Fire Baby Says:

    $3.5 million for a 3rd string QB towards the end of his career, and you people are complaining about the young and talented TP who is making $465,000?

    ***************************

    Yeah, I think I was a tad off on that one.

    I kind of assumed most 3rd stringers were late round draft picks and UDFA’s, making less than a 3rd round pick.

    But than you hav the Josh McCown, JT O’Sullivan, David Garrard’s of the world, still tolling around making millions as 3rd stringers.

    Not a bad gig if you can find it!!!!

  335. Raider O Says:

    If TP can’t make it as a QB (after 3 years), I like to see what he can do as a WR. 6′5+, 230, and runs a 4.3+ 40. Im not letting go Period!
    Those kind of athletes don’t grow on trees.
    6′5, 230, and runs a 4.3 40?! Wow!

  336. blackandsilverside Says:

    According to the worshippers herein, this time last year, JC was the nearest thing to the #1 QB Jesus, there was.

    How quickly he fell.

    Anyway, if he can play another 5 yrs for 3.5 per year, it’s an excellent gig.

    Wish I had JC’s luck, lol.

  337. Raider O Says:

    Most 3rd string QBs are young guys that need to develop, and I don’t understand the need for a vet 3rd string QB (if you don’t have a young guy to develop) like Chicago.

  338. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Soup’s on a one-year deal, and if he doesn’t play much or at all, he ain’t making 3.5 million dollars next season.

  339. Raider O Says:

    They paid him that much to be a backup for Jay because they have a good team (SB contender IMO), and they don’t want their season flushed down the toilet if Jay gets hurt again like last season.

  340. Just Fire Baby Says:

    No doubt, that is true.

    But can’t bank on that rationale year-to-year.

  341. Plunketthead Says:

    That was Ole! worthy.
    There will be no party tonight for the bambinos and mamacitas

  342. TxRaider210 Says:

    USA USA !!

  343. RaiderDuck Says:

    Catching up on “Hard Knocks” right now. With all respect to Joe Philbin, I’m glad DA’s our head coach.

  344. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    Bush was disappointing, but Soup was Soup.

    I wouldn’t be suprised if he is playing third string in game 3, to see if McCown is a better option as the backup.
    =================================================
    Soup is a downgrade from Hanie.

  345. Whats a Drexl? Says:

    I dont see the bears as super bowl contender, much the same as last year.

  346. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Trade DMAC!

  347. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Cut Condo!

  348. TxRaider210 Says:

    Dang BSJ, DMAC is a baller, the Condo can sell.. to Kell

  349. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    321.Raider O Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 6:14 pm
    I’ll send you a pic too. lol

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    We know what you look like already, Mustafa. Remember when Dakota posted your profile from noflylist.com?

  350. TxRaider210 Says:

    lmao@noflylist.com

  351. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    True Tx, DMAC is a baller…if the boot ain’t on.

    I simply can’t forgive him from refusing the pain pills when we needed him for a playoff run in Al’s last season.

    Plus, I predicted it. Which sucks.

  352. TxRaider210 Says:

    BSJ

    One more chance bro, if he goes down…..adios.

  353. RaiderDebo Says:

    JLofty Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 5:02 pm
    O, I say ALL great QBs are products of the system (and era) with which they had opportunity to excel in. Gannon’s greatest skill had NOTHING to do with his athletic or physical attributes. And most EVERYTHING to do with his work ethic, and ability to consume Gruden’s complex system.
    Gannon was hella accurate though and thus a good fit for Jon’s QB.
    You drop Marino into Bill Walsh’s lap in 1980 and you don’t get magic. For either guy. Gotta have both to make magic. System and skills, that match…
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    I agree that QBs are products of systems, but you’re off the mark on Gannon. The guy had a hell of a lot more going for him than work ethic and accuracy. Lots of guys in this world work hard, but they don’t become NFL MVPs at QB. Gannon was a hell of an athlete. I remember him in his early days in Minny as a big-time dual threat guy. He was probably a better runner than passer then, but by the time we got him, he had it figured out. One of my favorite things about him was how he picked up key 1st downs with his legs. And his arm wasn’t nearly as weak as a lot of people on this board like to say it was. Off the top of my head, I remember plenty of those seam passes to Jerry Porter arriving with a lot of steam on them. You don’t throw for over 4k yards with a pop gun. Granted, he played in a great scheme with very talented players around him. This allowed him to show his talent and almost get us a SB.

  354. RaiderDebo Says:

    RaiderDuck Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 7:14 pm
    Catching up on “Hard Knocks” right now. With all respect to Joe Philbin, I’m glad DA’s our head coach.

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Agreed!!

  355. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    At least DMAC appears to have solved his early career fumbilitis.

    I wanted a straight up trade for Forte. Or DMAC/Missile Mike for Forte/Briggs. I live near Chitown and had pretty good intel that both Bears were being shopped by the old GM .

  356. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    350.TxRaider210 Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 7:40 pm
    lmao@noflylist.com

    :::::::::::::::::::::::

    Meant dot gov of course, lol

  357. TxRaider210 Says:

    Later yall Raider Nation!

  358. Raidernationdave Says:

    I think Rich took advantage of an extremely fortunate opportunity. Gruden ran an offense that, to this day, will always have Al doing somersaults & with Gannon made the Raider O a potent force. They had the weapons they just needed a director. In a sense every QB is a “system” QB!

    Frankly it’s a shame dude got hurt in that Pittsburgh game that basically ended his career. He had another 2-3 years left IMO.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Raider O Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 5:28 pm

    Whut up HO?
    What do you think of Gannon.
    A great QB, or an avg/ solid QB in the right system?

  359. DJ Johnny Says:

    332.Just Fire Baby Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 6:40 pm
    Bush was disappointing, but Soup was Soup.

    I wouldn’t be suprised if he is playing third string in game 3, to see if McCown is a better option as the backup.

    I mentioned earlier they were talking about that on Chicago Tribune Live.

    McCown vs. Campbell for # 2. They talked about how much JC is making and were debating whether he’s worth it and one of the “panelists” said how bad JC looked in the 1st game, and the host said it’s only the 1st preseason game etc.

  360. RaiderDebo Says:

    DJ Johnny Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 7:51 pm
    332.Just Fire Baby Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 6:40 pm
    Bush was disappointing, but Soup was Soup.

    I wouldn’t be suprised if he is playing third string in game 3, to see if McCown is a better option as the backup.

    I mentioned earlier they were talking about that on Chicago Tribune Live.

    McCown vs. Campbell for # 2. They talked about how much JC is making and were debating whether he’s worth it and one of the “panelists” said how bad JC looked in the 1st game, and the host said it’s only the 1st preseason game etc.
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Let’s see. They got a taste of McCown last year when Cutler went down, then decided to sign Campbell for $3.5 million. The guy had a measure of success as a starter on a team that’s been in the shtter for the last decade. Lovie Smith may be coaching for his job this season. You really think he want’s McCown over Campbell? Think it through before you respond.

  361. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    Frankly it’s a shame dude got hurt in that Pittsburgh game that basically ended his career. He had another 2-3 years left IMO.
    ==============================================
    I thought Gannon got injured vs. T.B. on a Monday night. D. Brooks did him in.

  362. Raider O Says:

    LOL Preppie.
    Did you know they have a show about a pawn shop in Mich?
    LMAO

  363. Raiders for life Says:

    I hope sometime this season T. Pryor walks off the field and says ” I’m Rick James Bi+ch”
    Not sure it will happen though.

  364. Raider O Says:

    Raidernationdave Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 7:50 pm
    I think Rich took advantage of an extremely fortunate opportunity. Gruden ran an offense that, to this day, will always have Al doing somersaults & with Gannon made the Raider O a potent force. They had the weapons they just needed a director. In a sense every QB is a “system” QB!

    Frankly it’s a shame dude got hurt in that Pittsburgh game that basically ended his career. He had another 2-3 years left IMO.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Well said. Who said car salesmen lack logic?

  365. DJ Johnny Says:

    363.Raiders for life Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 8:11 pm
    I hope sometime this season T. Pryor walks off the field and says ” I’m Rick James Bi+ch”
    Not sure it will happen though.

    Ha. That would be great if he did that.

  366. Raidernationdave Says:

    I was talkin’ outta my arse O!

    +++++++++++++++++

    Raider O Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 8:12 pm

    Well said. Who said car salesmen lack logic?

  367. Missus Beeecham Says:

    HOLLA DUDES

    just pinched off a sweet duece. a natural. a beauty. good firm texture. got the mojowahizzle rollin tonight.

    that raiders shut-out messed me up. cramped my style. gave me the runs for a couple of days.

    but now i got my dawg lawg producing gear back up and rollin.

    LAWG LAWG O MY DAWG JUST KEEPIN IT REALS

  368. Raider O Says:

    Raidernationdave Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 8:22 pm
    I was talkin’ outta my arse O!

    +++++++++++++++++

    Raider O Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 8:12 pm

    Well said. Who said car salesmen lack logic?
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
    LOL
    You should do that more often.

  369. Missus Beeecham Says:

    YO DUDES

    hear about the turd that dropped into the toilet and disappeared before the flush, and then popped back up after the flush? what a waste. i drop mine on the living room floor and the kitchen table.

    HOLLA

  370. Raidernationdave Says:

    The one thing the Raider O gave us a taste of in that 3 play opening sequence with McFragile is how they intend to use him. Runs behind the FB. Misdirection. Out in the flat. As a slot. Hopefully this will keep him healthy all season. There’s really no one behind McBeCareful that gives one any sense of confidence should he go done again.

  371. Raiders for life Says:

    My dog did that once, now the bi_ch sleeps outside with my wife.

  372. Raidernationdave Says:

    Those toilet turtles are the best!! It’s kinda like they’re giving you a tip-of-the-hat goodbye, sayin, “It’s best nice knowing you!”

    +++++++++

    Missus Beeecham Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 8:29 pm

    YO DUDES

    hear about the turd that dropped into the toilet and disappeared before the flush, and then popped back up after the flush? what a waste. i drop mine on the living room floor and the kitchen table.

    HOLLA

  373. Raiders for life Says:

    370
    Dave,
    Another thing that might give DMAC some more miles is how Knapp uses Goodson and the other backs.

  374. Raidernationdave Says:

    *been

  375. Raidernationdave Says:

    Good call RFL but what concerns me is what’s back behind DMAC. Where the hell is Zack Crockett when you need him.

  376. Raidernationdave Says:

    Cool. In that case I hope the #1 O is to able to show us a little more in the next game of what they are capable of producing. Like a score you know. TD maybe. FG fo rizzle.

    ++++++++++++++

    Raider O Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 8:28 pm

    LOL
    You should do that more often.

  377. Raiders for life Says:

    One of the reasons I wanted the Raiders to keep Bush. I’ve heard alot of talk that RB’s are a dime a dozen. I’m just not getting that logic.
    But……..I am looking forward to seeing Goodson play Friday.

    Is the game gonna be broadcasted live?

  378. Raider O Says:

    Zack Crockett was a beast. Best short yardage back in my era IMHO. They knew he was coming, he was on the field for ONE reason on 3rd & 3, and they couldn’t stop him.
    Beast!

  379. ArmChair GM Says:

    Oakland Raiders, A’s and Warriors….Period point blank.

    By the way, if you ain’t up on this, you need to get up on it….the best stadium proposal for the A’s to date. And it’s right here in Oakland, on the freakin’ waterfront! With a splash pad to hit home runs into the water just like the Giants have!

    http://www.estuarywaterfrontproject.com/

  380. Raider O Says:

    We had a great OL and coaching staff, and Gannon was great too. I give him credit for what he did with us, he was a PB/ MVP QB, but he threw 5 INTs in the SB. 5!

  381. Missus Beeecham (new and improved nasty) Says:

    HOLLA

    never step on a duece on a hot day.

  382. Dhidee99 Says:

    I know this going to be very unpopular in this forum but I have too say it. I know alot of people here are loyal to Shane Lechler, but did you see the way that young rookie Marquette King was kicking the ball for us. I would say he is just as good if not better than Shane would have been playing for us.I say if King continues to show consistancy the rest of the pre-season cut Lecher and instead of 6mil under the cap now were are about 9.75mill under the cap! with a younger punter
    I’m just saying 0_o

  383. JB Says:

    Raider O Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 9:09 pm

    We had a great OL and coaching staff, and Gannon was great too. I give him credit for what he did with us, he was a PB/ MVP QB, but he threw 5 INTs in the SB. 5!
    *************************

    The main reason for that ws he was getting mugged on every play. Barrett Robbins AWOL was devastating to our O-line. He was the heart & leader of that line. His bi-polar trip to Mexico leaving Adam Treu at center was our undoing. Treu was a turnstyle and was ill equipped to be a starting Center. Gannon paid the price and ultimately the Raiders got manhandled. Having an opposing head coach, Grueden, on the other side didn’t help either. He knew our offense as well as Gannon did. Why Bill Callahan didn’t change things up is beyond me. Call it arrogance, call it whatever. We got the worlds biggest weggie that day and it really wasn’t necessary.

  384. Dhidee99 Says:

    JB Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 9:23 pm
    Raider O Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 9:09 pm

    We had a great OL and coaching staff, and Gannon was great too. I give him credit for what he did with us, he was a PB/ MVP QB, but he threw 5 INTs in the SB. 5!
    *************************

    The main reason for that ws he was getting mugged on every play. Barrett Robbins AWOL was devastating to our O-line. He was the heart & leader of that line. His bi-polar trip to Mexico leaving Adam Treu at center was our undoing. Treu was a turnstyle and was ill equipped to be a starting Center. Gannon paid the price and ultimately the Raiders got manhandled. Having an opposing head coach, Grueden, on the other side didn’t help either. He knew our offense as well as Gannon did. Why Bill Callahan didn’t change things up is beyond me. Call it arrogance, call it whatever. We got the worlds biggest weggie that day and it really wasn’t necessary.
    ————————————————-
    I wish that game could be washed from all memory!!!

  385. Raidernationdave Says:

    Yes he did O, yes he did. Let’s be real though. It’s really on Callahan. He had the opportunity to at least insert some new terminology that could have disguised what was coming. Nothing was done and we all know history. The Tampa D was calling out the Raiders plays, yada, yada, yada!

  386. Raidernationdave Says:

    O just nutted all over himself.

    +++++++++++++++++

    Dhidee99 Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 9:21 pm

    I know this going to be very unpopular in this forum but I have too say it. I know alot of people here are loyal to Shane Lechler, but did you see the way that young rookie Marquette King was kicking the ball for us. I would say he is just as good if not better than Shane would have been playing for us.I say if King continues to show consistancy the rest of the pre-season cut Lecher and instead of 6mil under the cap now were are about 9.75mill under the cap! with a younger punter
    I’m just saying 0_o

  387. Mr Green Says:

    Dhidee99 Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
    I know this going to be very unpopular in this forum but I have too say it. I know alot of people here are loyal to Shane Lechler, but did you see the way that young rookie Marquette King was kicking the ball for us. I would say he is just as good if not better than Shane would have been playing for us.I say if King continues to show consistancy the rest of the pre-season cut Lecher and instead of 6mil under the cap now were are about 9.75mill under the cap! with a younger punter
    I’m just saying 0_o
    llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

    I’m coming out of my silence after the Monday nite loss. I DO NOT like to see the Raidahs lose: pre-season, regular season, post season or in the courts.

    But I will say this, I did notice that Marq King has a very fast leg when he punts the football. The projected potential for this guy has to be high. ReggieMac MUST to find a way to keep him. I’m a big Lechler fan, but I do see future Ray Guy/Lechler in King. No doubt.

    :mrgreen:

  388. raidertbone Says:

    Wanna see me some Goodson, some more DMac, SOME Ford (any kind of Ford, really), and some more Ausberry (I like that guy). Oh, and I really would like to see a more positive showing by TP6. Just score, baby!

  389. Raider O Says:

    I wish that game could be washed from all memory!!!
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    I hate that day!

  390. Raider O Says:

    LMAO Dave.

  391. raidertbone Says:

    #387 (Dhidee99):
    I made basically the same comment on yesterday’s blog.

  392. DJ Johnny Says:

    You guys know of a link to watch the game friday nite?

  393. Raider O Says:

    Raidernationdave Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 9:31 pm
    Yes he did O, yes he did. Let’s be real though. It’s really on Callahan. He had the opportunity to at least insert some new terminology that could have disguised what was coming. Nothing was done and we all know history. The Tampa D was calling out the Raiders plays, yada, yada, yada!
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    I blame both. WTF was Callahan thinking?

  394. Raider O Says:

    I forgot who said this, but I thought it was funny and true.
    King was doing great (1st 2 punts), and then he went CFL on us.
    Still LMAO
    You People are funny.

  395. DJ Johnny Says:

    There’s a reason Callahan is the oline coach for Dallas and no longer a head coach.

  396. raidertbone Says:

    It would’ve been really interesting to see what would’ve happened in Super Bowl XXXVII if the Raiders had gotten a couple of good breaks in the first quarter. Madden had even mentioned that the Bucs defense could be worn down and it looked like the Silver and Black was making some headway. Then, it all started to unravel after Gannon threw his first pic. I will also say that Spires may have been robbed of the MVP in that game.

  397. DJ Johnny Says:

    Let me ask it this way; does there exist a link that i’ll be able to watch the game on this season?

  398. Dhidee99 Says:

    raidertbone Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 9:45 pm
    #387 (Dhidee99):
    I made basically the same comment on yesterday’s blog.
    ——————————————–
    I was cup caking yesterday Apologies =) for repeating what makes so much sense.

  399. raidertbone Says:

    Callahan and Jerry Jones are both losers – only Jerry has a lot more money and owns much better looking cheerleaders!

  400. raidertbone Says:

    DJ Johnny:
    You can get the whole preseason package streamed through NFL.com

  401. DJ Johnny Says:

    It’s a fact that Reggie is spending a ton of money on the kickers, holders and long snappers.

    Punts and fg’s are not gonna win many games on their own.

    You shouldn’t skimp in other areas to make sure you are elite in the punting and kicking game.

    I love Lechler and Seabass..not sure how much we should be paying Condo but there that’s a lot of money being spent in those areas.

    If we can have those guys and not skimp in other areas? GREAT!

  402. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Allen needs to give DMac the AP treatment as Frazier has; message to D during practice “you touch him you’re cut.”

  403. dvrick Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 11:04 am
    Raiders are chokers and Jokers.

  404. dvrick Says:

    RaiderRetribution Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 9:58 pm
    Allen needs to give DMac the AP treatment and trade him to Seattle for TJACK!!

  405. Seymour Bush Says:

    Raider O Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 4:50 pm

    Gannon = White W Moon
    Poor guy.
    ==================================

    Raider HO = ignorant POS

  406. blackandsilverside Says:

    I hope the Raiders get it together somewhat Friday, at least to the extent that they put several drives together and score, and the defense aptly defends some runs and passes.

    Maybe Pryor has the force of will to overcome his shortcomings and will show us something.

    Hopefully CP can be half the QB Gannon was, and won’t throw a boneheaded INT.

    We’ll just have to see.

  407. Seymour Bush Says:

    dvrick Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 10:00 pm

    I suk my own dik.

  408. raider till i die Says:

    I’m sure they mention this earler just woke up going to work but man kinda makes me feel good that mclain craked Jason wittend so hard he ruperures slean nice hit Rolando keep that up

  409. raider till i die Says:

    I’m sure they mention this earler just woke up going to work but man kinda makes me feel good that mclain craked Jason wittend so hard he ruperures his splean nice hit Rolando keep that up

  410. Seymour Bush Says:

    A tremendous, excellent, CLEAN, play by McClain. I am sure the next time Witten comes to Oakland he will remember this and take lst train out of town.

  411. blackandsilverside Says:

    It’s about time McFatazz did something on the field.

    I am sure Reggie showed him the business end of the ax handle and told lil ghetto pumper either take someone out or you’ll get the ax handle upside the litso…

    Excellent job Reg!!!!

  412. blackandsilverside Says:

    dvrick Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 10:00 pm

    I suk my own dik.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$444

    Would love to see that, fruitball. Do you also c.m in your mouth, you perverted tard????

  413. DJ Johnny Says:

    407,

    lmfao.

  414. Seymour Bush Says:

    DJ Johnny Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 10:50 pm

    407,

    lmfao.
    =================================

    Anyway, back to football. Real football. RAIDER football.

  415. DJ Johnny Says:

    400.raidertbone Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 9:53 pm
    DJ Johnny:
    You can get the whole preseason package streamed through NFL.com

    Thanks man. I appreciate it but I was hoping not to spend any $$$.

    Any of those off shore sites still operational?

  416. Missus Beeecham Says:

    HOLLA

    just pinched off my third lawg today. this ones goin in the chest freezer for future display. gonna name it cartman.

    HOLLA HOLLA

  417. DJ Johnny Says:

    I remember watching a feed from some weird site (reg season) I wanna say firstrow? Anyway, I kid you not, the video from one of the feeds must’ve been taken by some guy in a bar somewhere and during the game you could see some waitress walk by with a plate of tacos or something and serve the guys in front by the screen. I continued to watch cuz it was the only feed that was working.

    Those sites are famous for all of a sudden stopping right at the 2 min. warning.

  418. Seymour Bush Says:

    Quickly you have to give some ups to the lst teamers. I think after one quarter we had 104 yards to Dallas’s 4. If this was a boxing match, and we left the lst teamers in, they would have stopped it.

  419. Missus Beeecham Says:

    HOLLA

    my girlfriend holla just sprayed some havana omelett.

  420. DJ Johnny Says:

    Maybe u should enter that log at the county fair Missus.

    BTW, What is a Havana Omelett?

  421. blackandsilverside Says:

    DJ Johnny,

    God only knows just what a Havana Omelette is…..

  422. Missus Beeecham Says:

    DJ Johnny Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 11:18 pm
    Maybe u should enter that log at the county fair Missus.

    BTW, What is a Havana Omelett?
    ———————————————–

    HOLLA

    HAVANA OMELET: A load of diarrhea that creates a series of loud splashes in the toilet water. Not uncommon for a small lawg or two to be in the mix.

    HOLLA HOLLA

  423. sirblitzalot Says:

    Excuse me but what happened to “Response to Palmer and Ford on same page?”

    I am extremely hear both Palmer and Ford address this very, very important issue. Now, they do have a chemistry. At least I know Ford is over his tantrum. Watch Palmer to Ford for BIG play in the 1st Q on Friday night Football!!!

  424. Posts about The Raiders From Other Great Blogs issue #1 | Raiders Central | Oakland Raiders Blog Says:

    [...] appeared as if it could be quite serious as he was hauled off to the hospital in more… Palmer and Ford on same page, Lechler recovering from surgery – ibabuzz.com 08/15/2012 Much was made about wide receiver Jacoby Ford dropping two passes [...]

  425. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Allen said he was impressed by the NFL debuts of defensive linemen Christo Bilukidi and Dominique Hamilton on Monday.

    ***

    Me too!

    so why are we working out Myles Wade?

  426. RaiderRockstar Says:

    look at Palmer running to Ford’s defense like a momma bear protecting its cub. thats a leader!

    i mean, we can read through the bs and also know that actions speak louder than words … but Palmer wants to make sure this doesnt cause Jacoby to take a bottle of pills in his hotel room tonite, ya know?

    It’s wouldn’t look good for Palmer to throw him under the bus. He certainly wasn’t the only guy who struggled on Friday night

  427. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Defensive tackle Jamie Cumbie, fullback Rashawn Jackson and offensive lineman Ed Wang joined a sizable list of players unable to practice.
    Cumbie (foot), Wang (shoulder) and Jackson (hip) suffered their injuries during the Cowboys game. None of the injuries appears to be serious.
    On the bright side, running back Mike Goodson (neck) and wide receiver Eddie McGee (hamstring) returned to practice after missing considerable time.

    ***

    those 3 guys injured (above) arent going to make the roster anyways. who cares?

    good news on Mike & Eddie. cant wait to see them on Friday night!!

  428. nyraider Says:

    64 catches for 975 yds..15yds per catch..maybe cp should start giving dhb some love. i agree that dmoore has the gifts to potentially develop into a #1 down the road. jacoby had some excellent moments as a rookie, but imo he really struggled as a wide receiver last year. i dont think jacoby is suited to the wco and he seems to be tenative going across the middle. all dhb has done is work hard to improve and last year he had the best season as a wr since randy moss. yes his pick was controversial, but isnt time to give credit where credit is due?

  429. guest123 Says:

    Ford said. “Me and Carson, we’ve been on cue every day since OTAs and camp, just working and getting that chemistry and the relationship down. We’ve been clicking well and that’s why the ball was coming to me, and I’m pretty sure he’s going to keep throwing to me. He’s not going to go away from me at all.”

    ******

    Why is Ford so sure of that? It’s not even Carson’s call really. If Knapp doesn’t see Ford’s game match his talk about the 100 and something other times he’s “clicked” with Carson, Ford rides the pine. I’m glad that Ford sort of owned up to that bad game but didn’t really explain why his concentration and energy were off. Just a bad game, it happens, shrugs….BALONEY! What about the 3AM game day tweets?

    I hope they do feed DHB more this game and send a message to Ford that his position and pecking order are not secure. Maybe get him to close his twitter account and take this football business seriously. I disagree with Corkran that this is much ado about nothing. 3 plays, three big failures. Embarrasing start for Ford. No “aw shucks” we’ll get em next time lines please. Ford is on notice.

  430. guest123 Says:

    Post 93. Terrelle Pryor’s pre-supplemental draft write up looks spot on with many valid criticisms of Pryor’s game. Some of the comments about the ego in his Ohio State days may be inaccurate now that he’s taken to hard work with Palmer trying to develop his game. He’s got work ethic at least, but many many holes to his game. This isn’t the movie “invincible” and no happy ending is guaranteed here. All that hard work will probably still not be enough to get him to Vince Young level of proficiency at QB.

    I agree about somehow taking that 233 lb frame that can run a solid 4.5 as being impressive. Couple that with natural long strides and big hands and he’s a good project to convert over to a solid TE. We could sure use a good one anyway. Nobody is talking about the possibility, but I think we are delaying the inevitable letting him compete for QB2. When camp cuts leave better free agent QB’s on the wire, I think it’s time to upgrade our QB3 and our TE3 as well.

  431. Raider Riff Says:

    RAIDERMAN99 Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
    Riff, I’m still trying to get over the comical assumption you made that if Jerry Rice said that Gannon was the best he ever played with, that must mean RM99 believes Stabler was better than Montana.

    That’s an awesome Sherlock Holmes like deduction.

    Seriously, I’d rather try to explain to a hamster why we only see one side of the moon than waste time trying to have a rational debate with you.

    Just no point in arguing with you.

    But I have to know, do you actually believe Gannon was better than Montana ?

    ——————————

    So Raider O is now calling Gannon an “average QB who got lucky in a system”. That is such a stupid comment that their is no way he isnt trolling at this point so I wont even bother responding.

    But 99 on the other hand isnt trolling. He’s just that stupid. He’s lost a debate and is clinging to to his beliefs like its the bible.

    99,

    Now that you understand the logic…

    Jerry Rice thinks Gannon>Montana/Young

    And since its without debate that Montana/Young>Stabler

    It is Rice’s opinion that Gannon>Montana/Young>Stabler

    If YOU think that Stabler was better than Gannon, then by default you think you know more than Jerry Rice.

    I trust Rice’s opinion over yours. You are old as hell and think the “vertical game” means throwing deep. You have no idea how the vertical game works or its principles.

    Calling Grudens WCO a dink ‘n dunk offense just shows how ignorant you are. You dont understand the WCO and you dont understand the Vertical O. They are so closely related that if you saw both playbooks you would not be able to tell the difference.

    Do I think Gannon was better than Montana or Young? I do if Jerry Rice does. Did Gannon have a better overall career than either of them? No way. Both are legitimate HoF’ers whereas Gannon did not have nearly enough years of excellent play to qualify. The only guy who does qualify on such short years would be Kurt Warner IMO.

    Funny that you’d take Elway over Gannon. Elway didnt win any SuperBowls until he played in a West Coast “dink n dunk” Offense where his arm strength meant jack sh1t. I cant wait to hear your retort to that one. Arm strength has never won a SuperBowl. EVER. And it has NEVER been the top quality of any of the great QBs, EVER.

    No single player has ever won a championship. TEAMS get SuperBowl trophies. If all you have to go by is who has more rings, your argument is dead on arrival. Robert Horry has more rings than fingers… Was he a greater player than Steve Nash? Not even close.

    Oh, and if Gannon was the white Warren Moon, then you are saying that Gannon was better than I think he was. Warren Moon was one of the best to EVER play the game. Raider O, you are losing credibility with this trolling. Comments like that about Warren Moon are just asinine.

    Seriously, I could go to a Donkey or Scalped Chief forum and get more respect for Gannon than from some of these alleged Raider fans. That guy gave everything he had for us.

    And despite some peoples hate for him here, you still cannot tell me where he said one thing that was wrong about our organization? One anonymous semi claims he bashed CP3 and nobody thinks to check the source or confirm the rumor? We were the worst pro sports team in history the last 11 years and Gannon offered to help and was turned away. Yet some of you side with Al Davis on this. You guys are as crazy as Al was. At least Al can claim dimensiya, you guys dont have that excuse, youre just plain stupid.

  432. Raider Riff Says:

    Bo Jackson was a better player than Curtis Martin. Curtis Martin had a better career.

    Ken Stabler might not have even had a better career than Gannon. And he certainly wasnt a better player.

    I dont see what is so hard to figure out there. I guess when you are old and senile 1+1 can equal 3 sometimes.

    I still cannot get over the Warren Moon comparison. Moon was unreal. But I guess he was a product of a lucky system also.

    That would mean that J-Russel was a product of a un-lucky system would it not? We were the worst org in pro sports. But J-Russel hardly gets a pass around here due to the cards he was dealt.

    Gannon took those cards and made us a SuperBowl contender. But he was just average. Yawn.

  433. guest123 Says:

    Ken Stabler was a better QB than Gannon. Not that I think Gannon wasn’t a very good QB himself. But Stabler had a longer career of continued success and deep playoff runs and a Super Bowl ring to boot. It was a different era and different rules and he was great for the rules he had to play within. Probably would have struggled under the rules in Gannon’s times. By any measure though, Stabler had a better career. Super Bowl ring >>>> MVP

  434. guest123 Says:

    Looking over the players not at practice and I don’t see Wizniewski’s name. Is he back fully from that first half calf injury?

  435. TxRaider210 Says:

    Gannon and Sapp need to move to a private island and b1tch at each other all day.

  436. hwnrdr Says:

    Good Morning Nation!!!
    Are we still debating about Gannon?
    Anyways, one more day til Friday! It’s Friday Night Football….YAY!

  437. TxRaider210 Says:

    hwnrdr Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 5:56 am
    Good Morning Nation!!!
    Are we still debating about Gannon?
    Anyways, one more day til Friday! It’s Friday Night Football….YAY!

    ——————
    Good morning Hwnrdr! Tomorrow is the day, can’t wait to see Goodson run over AZ.

  438. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Dhidee99 Says:
    August 15th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
    I know this going to be very unpopular in this forum but I have too say it. I know alot of people here are loyal to Shane Lechler, but did you see the way that young rookie Marquette King was kicking the ball for us. I would say he is just as good if not better than Shane would have been playing for us.I say if King continues to show consistancy the rest of the pre-season cut Lecher and instead of 6mil under the cap now were are about 9.75mill under the cap! with a younger punter

    *********************************

    He averaged 40.1 yards a kick!!!!!

    That would have been dead last in the NFL last year.

    WTF are you people smoking????

  439. guest123 Says:

    It’s Friday Night Football….YAY!

    **********

    :highfive:

  440. guest123 Says:

    Shane’s not going anywhere. End of discussion. Like Gruden said, “you come to Oakland, you get see $9 million of kicking” Raiders will get their money’s worth and not penny pinch what is usually a decided advantage that gives us an extra 10 to 15 yards of field position or extends our FG range by another 10 yards. Were lucky and lets leave it at that.

  441. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Bo Jackson = most overrated athlete of the 80’s

    Go ahead pile on, but he was never even the best outfielder for the Royals, and he didn’t even play 40 NFL games before breaking down.

    Did you know Bo Jackson had 11 career fumbles to 18 career TD’s?

    That only one season in the NFL, he averaged more than 13 touches per game?

  442. hwnrdr Says:

    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 6:00 am
    hwnrdr Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 5:56 am
    Good Morning Nation!!!
    Are we still debating about Gannon?
    Anyways, one more day til Friday! It’s Friday Night Football….YAY!

    ——————
    Good morning Hwnrdr! Tomorrow is the day, can’t wait to see Goodson run over AZ.

    Good Morning Tx…yup, cannot wait! It will also be beer thirty!!! :)

  443. TxRaider210 Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 6:09 am
    Bo Jackson = most overrated athlete of the 80’s

    Go ahead pile on, but he was never even the best outfielder for the Royals, and he didn’t even play 40 NFL games before breaking down.

    Did you know Bo Jackson had 11 career fumbles to 18 career TD’s?

    That only one season in the NFL, he averaged more than 13 touches per game?

    ————————
    Easy on Bo.lol Can we talk about Gannon’s 5 int’s in the Superbowl?

  444. TxRaider210 Says:

    hwnrdr Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 6:10 am
    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 6:00 am
    hwnrdr Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 5:56 am
    Good Morning Nation!!!
    Are we still debating about Gannon?
    Anyways, one more day til Friday! It’s Friday Night Football….YAY!

    ——————
    Good morning Hwnrdr! Tomorrow is the day, can’t wait to see Goodson run over AZ.

    Good Morning Tx…yup, cannot wait! It will also be beer thirty!!!

    ——————–

    Yessir, I’m aiming to have a 12 pack down before kick-off!

  445. hwnrdr Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 6:09 am
    Bo Jackson = most overrated athlete of the 80’s

    Go ahead pile on, but he was never even the best outfielder for the Royals, and he didn’t even play 40 NFL games before breaking down.

    Did you know Bo Jackson had 11 career fumbles to 18 career TD’s?

    That only one season in the NFL, he averaged more than 13 touches per game?

    True, but can you imagine if he stuck to football??? Or you can say vice versa! After the hip replacement, he wasn’t the same in baseball either. I know he blasted that homerun but…

  446. guest123 Says:

    Bo was a like a brilliant comet that flames out, but burned brighter than any other comet you ever saw. His hand timed 4.12 40 is stuff of lore. But I agree that he’s being given too much credit. Certainly Curtis Martin had a better career and I’d argue was just plain better, especially leading the league in rushing at the age of 31. That’s exceptional. As much as I love Bo’s game, his reverie is a bit much and exagerated over time.

  447. hwnrdr Says:

    Yessir, I’m aiming to have a 12 pack down before kick-off!

    LOL! You know if it wasn’t for having to my take my son to his karate class, I’d probably be there as well!

  448. Just Fire Baby Says:

    And people always say, well Bo just walked in and played football without much practice.

    So what????

    Should we elevate Allen Iverson to a higher pedestol because he didn’t take practice seriously?

    Is Lechler an even greater NFL punter because he never punts in the preseason?

  449. hwnrdr Says:

    But hey…Bo knows no boundaries!!!

  450. TxRaider210 Says:

    guest123 Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 6:13 am
    Bo was a like a brilliant comet that flames out, but burned brighter than any other comet you ever saw. His hand timed 4.12 40 is stuff of lore. But I agree that he’s being given too much credit. Certainly Curtis Martin had a better career and I’d argue was just plain better, especially leading the league in rushing at the age of 31. That’s exceptional. As much as I love Bo’s game, his reverie is a bit much and exagerated over time.

    —————————-

    I hear that, but Bo was the guy who got me into football and following the Raiders, so I give him props for that. One of those athletes that can be appreciated more seeing them play live.

  451. guest123 Says:

    I’m thinking about putting my son in Tae Kwan do. He’s only six, but I think he needs to get out there and mix it up a little before he gets into middle school where the bullies roam.

  452. TxRaider210 Says:

    guest123 Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 6:16 am
    I’m thinking about putting my son in Tae Kwan do. He’s only six, but I think he needs to get out there and mix it up a little before he gets into middle school where the bullies roam.

    ———————
    That’d be pretty cool man, can’t go wrong with muay thai fighting either.

  453. guest123 Says:

    No one will remember Lechler’s knee once the regular season starts. He’ll be booming kicks like always and helping us cheat a first down or two of field position away from the enemy. That’s a weapon that is well worth the price.

  454. Just Fire Baby Says:

    When Lechler booms a 60 yard punt week 1, after not punting all presesason and offseason, I am going to claim it as an astonishing football feat, and maybe the greatest performance by a punter ever.

    Sounds pretty stupid doesn’t it?

  455. TxRaider210 Says:

    Then again, a 6 year old muay thai fighter could probably kick some serious tail, may be a bad idea.lol

  456. raiderjhawk Says:

    I don’t think Taiwan Jones will ever be healthy…

  457. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    I’M STILL TRY’N 2 DECIDE BETWEEN DONALD HOLIS AND WADE WILSON.SINCE WE R BEATING DEAD HORSES…

  458. TxRaider210 Says:

    Lechler can’t break a bat over his head:)

  459. guest123 Says:

    Then again, a 6 year old muay thai fighter could probably kick some serious tail, may be a bad idea.lol

    ******

    probably kick my aas!

  460. TxRaider210 Says:

    raiderjhawk Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 6:21 am
    I don’t think Taiwan Jones will ever be healthy…

    ———————-

    I’m so sick of injury prone players, if they get hurt, make them play hurt like the old days.

  461. raiderjhawk Says:

    I wish we still had Sterling Moore, man Hue made some really bad decisions as far as personnel goes.

  462. hwnrdr Says:

    My son turns 10 next month (the day before we play in Denver). He’s already a JR Black Belt in Karate and a Yellow belt in Jiujitsu. I have to keep my fitness up more than 12 or 40 oz curls because he has gotten really good! But the good side of it, my daughter just started Kindergarten…at least he can help protect his sister!!! (and the way they play…she may be able to protect herself). So, it takes off the worry of any bullying!

  463. guest123 Says:

    I don’t think Taiwan Jones will ever be healthy…

    ********

    Really? I heard he was working out on the side in practice and looked to be close to returning soon.

  464. TxRaider210 Says:

    guest123 Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 6:24 am
    Then again, a 6 year old muay thai fighter could probably kick some serious tail, may be a bad idea.lol

    ******

    probably kick my aas!

    ————

    Yeah with all the knees and elbows in Muay Thai, could be a bad idea..lol

  465. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    POST-458,SOUNDS LIKE A FEW IN HERE HAVE TRY’D.

  466. raiderjhawk Says:

    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 6:25 am

    I’m so sick of injury prone players, if they get hurt, make them play hurt like the old days.
    ———————————————
    me too! I hope Reggie changes that culture we’ve had going!

  467. guest123 Says:

    461, that was all AL

  468. hwnrdr Says:

    guest123 Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 6:16 am
    I’m thinking about putting my son in Tae Kwan do. He’s only six, but I think he needs to get out there and mix it up a little before he gets into middle school where the bullies roam.

    So with my previous post…do it! To me it’s worth it!

  469. TxRaider210 Says:

    hwnrdr Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 6:26 am
    My son turns 10 next month (the day before we play in Denver). He’s already a JR Black Belt in Karate and a Yellow belt in Jiujitsu. I have to keep my fitness up more than 12 or 40 oz curls because he has gotten really good! But the good side of it, my daughter just started Kindergarten…at least he can help protect his sister!!! (and the way they play…she may be able to protect herself). So, it takes off the worry of any bullying!

    ———————-

    That’s pretty cool man, kids need to know that stuff with all the rotten little bullies these days. Kids are like sharks, when it comes to picking on others.

  470. hwnrdr Says:

    That is true Tx! Even though he is Jr Black, I still push him because I always tell him that somewhere out there, there is always someone better!

  471. Just Fire Baby Says:

    What about that ninny that shot up the right-wing religious place in DC yesterday?

    Shoots the guard in the arm and has a gun, and yet the robo-cop basically still beat his azz and took his gun.

    Than the dude was seen yelling “don’t hurt me man, it’s not personal, I can’t stand what this place stands for”.

    What a be-yotch!!!

  472. raiderjhawk Says:

    468. doubtbful.

  473. TxRaider210 Says:

    raiderjhawk Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 6:27 am
    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 6:25 am

    I’m so sick of injury prone players, if they get hurt, make them play hurt like the old days.
    ———————————————
    me too! I hope Reggie changes that culture we’ve had going!

    —————-

    Yeah the players are always hurting somewhere, seems they’re just not a tough as they used to be. If a player is 70% healthy, he should be out there playing through the pain.imo

  474. hwnrdr Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 6:30 am
    What about that ninny that shot up the right-wing religious place in DC yesterday?

    Shoots the guard in the arm and has a gun, and yet the robo-cop basically still beat his azz and took his gun.

    Than the dude was seen yelling “don’t hurt me man, it’s not personal, I can’t stand what this place stands for”.

    What a be-yotch!!!

    After getting shot? Beast!

  475. raiderjhawk Says:

    I want to bang Janette Thompson’s back out!

  476. TxRaider210 Says:

    hwnrdr Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 6:30 am
    That is true Tx! Even though he is Jr Black, I still push him because I always tell him that somewhere out there, there is always someone better!

    ———————

    Yeah man, we’re from the old skool generation where parents taught kids not to pick fights, but finish it if someone touches you.

  477. hwnrdr Says:

    raiderjhawk Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 6:32 am
    I want to bang Janette Thompson’s back out!

    Nothing wrong with that!

  478. hwnrdr Says:

    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 6:32 am
    hwnrdr Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 6:30 am
    That is true Tx! Even though he is Jr Black, I still push him because I always tell him that somewhere out there, there is always someone better!

    ———————

    Yeah man, we’re from the old skool generation where parents taught kids not to pick fights, but finish it if someone touches you.

    Exactly!

  479. TxRaider210 Says:

    There’s another hilarious Tommy Kelly interview on the Raider site, if ya’ll haven’t seen it yet.

  480. TxRaider210 Says:

    hwnrdr Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 6:33 am
    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 6:32 am
    hwnrdr Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 6:30 am
    That is true Tx! Even though he is Jr Black, I still push him because I always tell him that somewhere out there, there is always someone better!

    ———————

    Yeah man, we’re from the old skool generation where parents taught kids not to pick fights, but finish it if someone touches you.

    Exactly!

    ——————-

    Ahh the good ole days, when you didn’t have to teach your kids to worry about weapons in a school-yard fight..geez

  481. TxRaider210 Says:

    TK said they cut all the Rookies hair in order to “lower them down” classic!lmao

  482. raiderjhawk Says:

    I just watched it TxRaider, it’s hard not to like Tommy Kelly. I’m thinking it’ll be a big season for him this year!

  483. jesusraiderjim Says:

    Yessir, I’m aiming to have a 12 pack down before kick-off!

    That a way to set your goals Tx. Proud of ya! Aim High that’s what they say! LOL

  484. TxRaider210 Says:

    raiderjhawk Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 6:37 am
    I just watched it TxRaider, it’s hard not to like Tommy Kelly. I’m thinking it’ll be a big season for him this year!

    ———————

    Guy is hilarious, you’d better get to Janette before he does.lol

  485. TxRaider210 Says:

    jesusraiderjim Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 6:37 am
    Yessir, I’m aiming to have a 12 pack down before kick-off!

    That a way to set your goals Tx. Proud of ya! Aim High that’s what they say! LOL

    ——————–
    That’s what it’s about bro! Even if I don’t reach my goal, it just means I have more beer left!

  486. raiderjhawk Says:

    TK is probably banging janette on the regular, she seems really into him. She is a sexy azz black women.

  487. hwnrdr Says:

    raiderjhawk Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 6:49 am
    TK is probably banging janette on the regular, she seems really into him. She is a sexy azz black women.

    True Dat!

  488. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Why she got to be a “sexy azz black women”?

    Can’t she just be a sexy azz women?

  489. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Jst fkn around………wanted to pull out my inner KoolKell

  490. TxRaider210 Says:

    raiderjhawk Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 6:49 am
    TK is probably banging janette on the regular, she seems really into him. She is a sexy azz black women.

    —————–

    Would not surprise me if TK is tappin’ that.

  491. TxRaider210 Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 6:54 am
    Jst fkn around………wanted to pull out my inner KoolKell

    —————–
    I said yesterday that Gannon must be a racist, just mad that Mark hired Reggie.lol

  492. hwnrdr Says:

    Jeannette Thompson…never met her personally but finally seen her up close at last weekends Raider Nation Celebration! She IS a sexy woman! Who knows what goes on after the interviews…

  493. Bob Marley Says:

    Glad to see Mike Goodson is turning out to be what some of us expected him to be, an excellent back-up and more than capable of replacing D-Mac if needed, not just Rock Cartwright’s replacement as Special Teams ace.

    It’s still training camp and he needs to get it done when it counts but so far so good for Goodson.

    Reggie spoke about Goodson made him pass on Ced Benson once he saw what he has in him.

    From Vic Tafur:

    “Reggie McKenzie does not deny that he was interested in running back Cedric Benson.

    McKenzie even made the free-agent running back an offer during the offseason, back before he fully realized that Mike Goodson was more than capable of being Darren McFadden’s backup.

    Benson balked, and he finally signed with the Packers on Sunday.

    “By then, I liked what I had seen (of Goodson) so far,” McKenzie said.

    “So whenever (Benson) made his decision to go there, they wanted to see if we wanted to … ‘No, you go ahead. You can go now. We’re good.’ ”

    Benson, perhaps upset that other teams didn’t bid him up from the veteran’s minimum of $825,000, took an unnecessary shot Monday at Oakland and Detroit, who also tried to sign him.

    “They talk about a Super Bowl around here (in Green Bay), not about winning their first playoff game,” Benson said.

    McKenzie wondered why Benson didn’t just cut off that sentence after “Green Bay,” but he’s happy with how things unfolded.

    Specifically, that Goodson, 25, is even better than McKenzie thought he was when the GM traded backup tackle Bruce Campbell to Carolina for him in March.

    “Not only his feel for the game, but his mental capacity to pick up everything,” McKenzie said.

    “That was encouraging. He picked up the blitz-pickup stuff, when to release out, the timing … that stuff, he is a natural. And he’s tougher than people give him credit for.

    “The talent is hard to hide, his slashing skills, his quickness and ability to catch the ball. You saw all that (at Texas A&M) and the few times he played at Carolina.”

    Goodson was back at practice Wednesday for the first time since injuring his neck in a scary collision at practice eight days ago. He is ready to carry the ball Friday at Arizona in Oakland’s second preseason game.

    “It felt good to get back out there, running and moving around,” Goodson said. “Tried to get my heart rate up a little bit. Tried to go and go and go and see how it makes me feel. I felt pretty good.”

  494. TxRaider210 Says:

    hwnrdr Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 7:02 am
    Jeannette Thompson…never met her personally but finally seen her up close at last weekends Raider Nation Celebration! She IS a sexy woman! Who knows what goes on after the interviews…

    ———————-

    She ought to be an honorary Raiderette, with all her sass.lol

  495. hwnrdr Says:

    I think she is te director of the Raiderettes, right?

  496. TxRaider210 Says:

    hwnrdr Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 7:08 am
    I think she is te director of the Raiderettes, right?

    —————-
    I think she is bro, looks like she’s built like an ex cheerleader..

  497. TxRaider210 Says:

    Bob

    Good read on Goodson, he’s gonna ball tomorrow night!

  498. guest123 Says:

    Reggie Mck to Cedric: You go on now, We’re good!

    lmao…tell em REGG!
    ____________

    By then, I liked what I had seen (of Goodson) so far,” McKenzie said. “So whenever (Benson) made his decision to go there, they wanted to see if we wanted to … ‘No, you go ahead. You can go now. We’re good.’ ”

    Benson, perhaps upset that other teams didn’t bid him up from the veteran’s minimum of $825,000, took an unnecessary shot Monday at Oakland and Detroit, who also tried to sign him.

    “They talk about a Super Bowl around here (in Green Bay), not about winning their first playoff game,” Benson said.

    McKenzie wondered why Benson didn’t just cut off that sentence after “Green Bay,” but he’s happy with how things unfolded.

    Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/raiders/article/Raiders-GM-McKenzie-looks-to-future-3791786.php#ixzz23ial35BC

  499. Just Fire Baby Says:

    What about the new black chick on ESPN, Josina Anderson I think it is?

    She is at Denver camp, and is pretty smoking.

    I always had a thing for Rachel Nichols as well, even though she isn’t as hot. Something about her.

  500. guest123 Says:

    Can’t wait to see about Goodson tommorow night. Not televised nationally though. I probably won’t be able to see it. bummer

  501. hwnrdr Says:

    Met Reggie on Sunday as well, at the Raider Image store in Oakland. Really nice guy, considering all of us was asking him to take pictures with us…lol

  502. TxRaider210 Says:

    guest123 Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 7:12 am
    Can’t wait to see about Goodson tommorow night. Not televised nationally though. I probably won’t be able to see it. bummer

    ——————-

    I’ll be watching online, more than likely a feed from a local AZ station…

  503. hwnrdr Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 7:12 am
    What about the new black chick on ESPN, Josina Anderson I think it is?

    She is at Denver camp, and is pretty smoking.

    I always had a thing for Rachel Nichols as well, even though she isn’t as hot. Something about her.

    That’s usually what it is, JFB! May not be the best looking out there, but sexy as he!!

  504. guest123 Says:

    Cool Hwnrdr. I’d have loved to have been there myself! Bet it was great. Maybe next year.

  505. TxRaider210 Says:

    hwnrdr Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 7:13 am
    Met Reggie on Sunday as well, at the Raider Image store in Oakland. Really nice guy, considering all of us was asking him to take pictures with us…lol

    ———————

    You’re one lucky fella, wish I lived closer to the West..

  506. guest123 Says:

    I’ll be watching online, more than likely a feed from a local AZ station…

    *****

    Didn’t the Feds blow out all the cyber links to local feeds of games?

  507. theghostronin79 Says:

    Guest, if you got NFL network, it replays Saturday 10pm.

  508. Bob Marley Says:

    In 2011 Houston RB’s Arian Foster and Ben Tate combined to rush for 2166 yards rushing and caught 66 passes for 715 yards, that’s close to 3000 yards from scrimmage.

    A healthy D-Mac, even missing a couple of games, and Goodson might net us around 2500 yards in 2012, maybe more.

    If those two remain relatively healthy, wathever Taiwan Jones gives us would be a bonus.

  509. hwnrdr Says:

    guest123 Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 7:14 am
    Cool Hwnrdr. I’d have loved to have been there myself! Bet it was great. Maybe next year.

    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 7:14 am
    hwnrdr Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 7:13 am
    Met Reggie on Sunday as well, at the Raider Image store in Oakland. Really nice guy, considering all of us was asking him to take pictures with us…lol

    ———————

    You’re one lucky fella, wish I lived closer to the West..

    This was the first time that I went since 2006. Made the best out of this one!
    Would be great to meet you guys in person. If it takes next year, then that would be cool!!!

  510. TxRaider210 Says:

    Janette>Josina imo. The Josina chick looks a bit extra-terrestrial to me.lol

  511. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I am thinking of going underground for the game Friday, and staying away from it all until the replay on NFLN on Saturday.

    I think I can do it.

    I hate watching sporting events when I already know the outcome and what happened. Kills it all for me.

  512. guest123 Says:

    507. Thanks for the heads up! I’ll be setting my DVR.

  513. TxRaider210 Says:

    hwnrdr Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 7:16 am
    guest123 Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 7:14 am
    Cool Hwnrdr. I’d have loved to have been there myself! Bet it was great. Maybe next year.

    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 7:14 am
    hwnrdr Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 7:13 am
    Met Reggie on Sunday as well, at the Raider Image store in Oakland. Really nice guy, considering all of us was asking him to take pictures with us…lol

    ———————

    You’re one lucky fella, wish I lived closer to the West..

    This was the first time that I went since 2006. Made the best out of this one!
    Would be great to meet you guys in person. If it takes next year, then that would be cool!!!

    —————–

    Yeah man, it’d be cool for the semis to tailgate and bbq sometime, maybe enough of us make a game this year..

  514. guest123 Says:

    Marley, indeed DMAC and Goodson can net us 2500 yards easily, but don’t discount Taiwan Jones. I know everyone is down on him for getting nicked and injured and he’s developing a rep for that. But like DMAC, the kid’s a ferrari or lamborghini waiting to be unleashed. When it’s finally road ready, it’s breathtaking to witness.

  515. TxRaider210 Says:

    guest123 Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 7:15 am
    I’ll be watching online, more than likely a feed from a local AZ station…

    *****

    Didn’t the Feds blow out all the cyber links to local feeds of games?

    —————–

    Most of them yes, but I think a few still work. I’ll post a link tomorrow, before the game, if my link works..

  516. hwnrdr Says:

    That would be cool, Tx! There’s a few of us on here that meet up every game! B, Dirt Lot, 707, I believe Thec is coming up for all games this year, and others!

  517. guest123 Says:

    TxRaider, thanks I’ll be looking out for it.

  518. TxRaider210 Says:

    hwnrdr Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 7:20 am
    That would be cool, Tx! There’s a few of us on here that meet up every game! B, Dirt Lot, 707, I believe Thec is coming up for all games this year, and others!

    —————

    Yeah man, I did have another job lined up, but they lowballed the pay so I turned it down. If my current company gives me severance, I’ll be at a home game for sure. Should know more in 3 weeks or so..

  519. Bob Marley Says:

    Maybe Knapp designs some special plays where D-Mac and Goodson line up together in the backfield, both can run, catch, pick up a blitz and split out wide, that would be interesting to watch and the Defense would have a hard time covering both players out there.

  520. TxRaider210 Says:

    guest123 Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 7:21 am
    TxRaider, thanks I’ll be looking out for it.

    ——————

    No problem bro, let me check tonight and make sure I get the games, the site was acting goofy last night.

  521. r8eray Says:

    Louis Murphy has been plagued by drops so far in camp!!

    Good riddance…better them, than us!

    ;)

  522. TxRaider210 Says:

    Bob Marley Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 7:22 am
    Maybe Knapp designs some special plays where D-Mac and Goodson line up together in the backfield, both can run, catch, pick up a blitz and split out wide, that would be interesting to watch and the Defense would have a hard time covering both players out there.

    ——————-
    That could very well be a lethal combination bro!

  523. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Happy Thursday!

    Well its a happy day when the market is treating you right anyways.

    So whats on tap today for debate?

  524. Bob Marley Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:

    I am thinking of going underground for the game Friday, and staying away from it all until the replay on NFLN on Saturday.

    I think I can do it.

    I hate watching sporting events when I already know the outcome and what happened. Kills it all for me.
    ————————————————–

    I’ve tried to do it for pre-season games in the past, could not stand not knowing what happened and ended up in here reading all about it…the one good thing about it is that when you do watch the replay, you know what to look for, you look out for the positives and the negatives and have a chance to evaluate yourself, it’s not bad.

  525. Marks hair Says:

    519. You can run plays like that with dmac & reece all day.. on any play we can go empty backfield..

  526. guest123 Says:

    Between Wheeler lay heavy licks on Goodson and McClain laying heavy licks on Witten, I’m liking the common theme from our linebackers and hopefully it sends a similar type message of Raiders of yesteryear. In a word, Pain.

    With “intimidation” to follow.

  527. TxRaider210 Says:

    guest123 Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 7:27 am
    Between Wheeler lay heavy licks on Goodson and McClain laying heavy licks on Witten, I’m liking the common theme from our linebackers and hopefully it sends a similar type message of Raiders of yesteryear. In a word, Pain.

    With “intimidation” to follow.

    ———————
    Kevin Kolb better have on his big boy diaper tomorrow night!

  528. Bob Marley Says:

    Marks hair Says:

    519. You can run plays like that with dmac & reece all day.. on any play we can go empty backfield..
    —————————————————

    True, except that Goodson is more explosive and a tougher matchup for a Safety, let alone a LB, but you are right Mark, Reece is no easy match-up for the D and the run is more credible with him out there.

    Gotta like the versatility of a 5 player backfield with Tailbacks McFadden-Goodson-Taiwan and FB’s Reece and Schmitt along with a good OL, only health stands in the way (fingers crosse), I actually typed that last sentence with my fingers crossed, it’s hard!.

  529. r8eray Says:

    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 7:29 am
    guest123 Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 7:27 am
    Between Wheeler lay heavy licks on Goodson and McClain laying heavy licks on Witten, I’m liking the common theme from our linebackers and hopefully it sends a similar type message of Raiders of yesteryear. In a word, Pain.

    With “intimidation” to follow.

    ———————
    Kevin Kolb better have on his big boy diaper tomorrow night!

    ========

    Imagine if Seymour plays?

    I guarantee Skeleton will start in the beginning of the season!

    How much longer is Arizona gonna keep Kolb for? I wonder how much of his contract was guaranteed?

  530. Bob Marley Says:

    See? I missed a d at the end.

  531. TxRaider210 Says:

    r8eray Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 7:35 am
    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 7:29 am
    guest123 Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 7:27 am
    Between Wheeler lay heavy licks on Goodson and McClain laying heavy licks on Witten, I’m liking the common theme from our linebackers and hopefully it sends a similar type message of Raiders of yesteryear. In a word, Pain.

    With “intimidation” to follow.

    ———————
    Kevin Kolb better have on his big boy diaper tomorrow night!

    ========

    Imagine if Seymour plays?

    I guarantee Skeleton will start in the beginning of the season!

    How much longer is Arizona gonna keep Kolb for? I wonder how much of his contract was guaranteed?

    ——————-

    Not sure on Kolb, but I’m looking for Crawford to smash him and Skeleton, maybe TK in the mix too!

  532. theghostronin79 Says:

    Between Wheeler lay heavy licks on Goodson and McClain laying heavy licks on Witten, I’m liking the common theme from our linebackers
    ==============

    I’m sure you noticed also, Dallas around their own 15, it was a run to the right; follow the Guard…..

    Play was unfolding, and here comes Wheeler “Full Speed” POOWWW ! ! ! He went head on into the pulling guard. Didn’t try to juke or sidestep. Just crushed him. The RB then bumped into the guard and began tryin to jitterbug and find a place to go when he was brougt down for loss. That’s what ELSE he brings….Fearless, aggressive, attack. Wheeler didn’t make the tackle, but he facilitated the run for -1 with his steel shoulder.

    I LIKES IT! ! ! !

  533. guest123 Says:

    :) tyuffing wiff finfurs crosssd is harrd!

  534. DEATHROW 55 Says:

    Our hardest hitting lb is curry he is a load and you guys are right about our backer crew will strike fear vs opposing te’s and rb’s. Burris will be another bruzer too!!!!!

  535. TxRaider210 Says:

    theghostronin79 Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 7:37 am
    Between Wheeler lay heavy licks on Goodson and McClain laying heavy licks on Witten, I’m liking the common theme from our linebackers
    ==============

    I’m sure you noticed also, Dallas around their own 15, it was a run to the right; follow the Guard…..

    Play was unfolding, and here comes Wheeler “Full Speed” POOWWW ! ! ! He went head on into the pulling guard. Didn’t try to juke or sidestep. Just crushed him. The RB then bumped into the guard and began tryin to jitterbug and find a place to go when he was brougt down for loss. That’s what ELSE he brings….Fearless, aggressive, attack. Wheeler didn’t make the tackle, but he facilitated the run for -1 with his steel shoulder.

    I LIKES IT! ! ! !

    —————
    Hell yeah man! Hopefully Burris and 55 learn lots from this guy, Wheeler can play.

  536. hwnrdr Says:

    Cool, let me know Tx!

  537. TxRaider210 Says:

    hwnrdr Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 7:41 am
    Cool, let me know Tx!

    ————-

    For sure bro, so hard to plan life working as a contractor.lol

  538. hwnrdr Says:

    Didn’t really see much of Burris Monday night. I did see that he did wrap up the guy with the ball and made a sure tackle!!!

  539. guest123 Says:

    Bob Marley Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 7:36 am
    See? I missed a d at the end.

    *******

    so did the Raiders last year in week 17.

  540. TxRaider210 Says:

    hwnrdr Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 7:42 am
    Didn’t really see much of Burris Monday night. I did see that he did wrap up the guy with the ball and made a sure tackle!!!

    ————-
    I think he had 3 tackles, 2 being solo. I was impressed by his quickness when he drops into coverage.

  541. DEATHROW 55 Says:

    Can we all agree that we got a mean nasty front seven!!!! Seymore is the leader and hes a diccck out on the field takes no schitt he is not scared to slam a big name qb., got to love raider fb!!!

  542. TxRaider210 Says:

    guest123 Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 7:44 am
    Bob Marley Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 7:36 am
    See? I missed a d at the end.

    *******

    so did the Raiders last year in week 17.

    ——–
    LOL

  543. hwnrdr Says:

    Yup! Just knowing that the opener is less than a month away…are you ready for some RAIDER FOOTBALL???

  544. TxRaider210 Says:

    DEATHROW 55 Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 7:44 am
    Can we all agree that we got a mean nasty front seven!!!! Seymore is the leader and hes a diccck out on the field takes no schitt he is not scared to slam a big name qb., got to love raider fb!!!

    —————

    Sounds fair to me, can’t wait to see more from Burris and Romac.

  545. guest123 Says:

    are you ready for some RAIDER FOOTBALL???

    *******

    can I get a HELL YEAH!!!

  546. theghostronin79 Says:

    Didn’t really see much of Burris Monday night. I did see that he did wrap up the guy with the ball and made a sure tackle!!!

    =====================

    On one play in particular, he was getting blocked out of the play. RB was about to run right past him. Burris then shoved his blocker to the ground and changed gears, ran the RB down, put the death clamp on him and they both hit the dirt immediately….only 3 yards down field. Didn’t see any other defenders within 10 yds. Normally that play would pop for 15+ with “Burris” being taken out of the play completely…He adjusted and took care of business for a 4 or 5 yd gain.

  547. hwnrdr Says:

    theghostronin79 Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 7:48 am
    Didn’t really see much of Burris Monday night. I did see that he did wrap up the guy with the ball and made a sure tackle!!!

    =====================

    On one play in particular, he was getting blocked out of the play. RB was about to run right past him. Burris then shoved his blocker to the ground and changed gears, ran the RB down, put the death clamp on him and they both hit the dirt immediately….only 3 yards down field. Didn’t see any other defenders within 10 yds. Normally that play would pop for 15+ with “Burris” being taken out of the play completely…He adjusted and took care of business for a 4 or 5 yd gain.

    That is what I like to hear!!!
    In Reggie I Trust!!!

  548. TxRaider210 Says:

    guest123 Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 7:47 am
    are you ready for some RAIDER FOOTBALL???

    *******

    can I get a HELL YEAH!!!

    ——————
    Hells YYYeeaaauuhh!

  549. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “can I get a HELL YEAH!!!”

    HELL YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  550. TxRaider210 Says:

    theghostronin79 Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 7:48 am
    Didn’t really see much of Burris Monday night. I did see that he did wrap up the guy with the ball and made a sure tackle!!!

    =====================

    On one play in particular, he was getting blocked out of the play. RB was about to run right past him. Burris then shoved his blocker to the ground and changed gears, ran the RB down, put the death clamp on him and they both hit the dirt immediately….only 3 yards down field. Didn’t see any other defenders within 10 yds. Normally that play would pop for 15+ with “Burris” being taken out of the play completely…He adjusted and took care of business for a 4 or 5 yd gain.

    ———————–
    79

    Did you get a chance to re-watch the game yet?

  551. hwnrdr Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 8:00 am
    “can I get a HELL YEAH!!!”

    HELL YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    This reminds of that puppet movie…Team America!
    America, F YEAH!!!

  552. TxRaider210 Says:

    LOL@ Team America

  553. Raider O Says:

    Riff,

    So I’m a broncos fan and troll for disagreeing with your dumb comments.
    Go eff yourself.

  554. hwnrdr Says:

    Good Morning O! What’s going on bro?

  555. TxRaider210 Says:

    Raider O Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 8:05 am
    Riff,

    So I’m a broncos fan and troll for disagreeing with your dumb comments.
    Go eff yourself.

    —————
    O, and remember not to say a bad word about Gannon, we have no freedom of speech when it comes to him.lmao

  556. Raider O Says:

    Gannon had a few great years in his 17 year career and now he is HOF caliber QB?
    Stop smoking crack!

  557. theghostronin79 Says:

    79

    Did you get a chance to re-watch the game yet?

    ========

    Yeah the other night….Watching it in bed. Kept rewinding and watching certain plays. It’s easy to fly off the handle and start throwing dudes under the bus (Ford; that was beat to damned DEATH yesterday) but, there were so many positives to take away from that game. I feel good…..I think we’ll be just fine.

  558. TxRaider210 Says:

    Raider O Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 8:12 am
    Gannon had a few great years in his 17 year career and now he is HOF caliber QB?
    Stop smoking crack!

    ———————–

    Agreed man, it really eeeks me that he ranked the Raiders 25th too.

  559. DJ Johnny Says:

    I love everything that Carson says and i’m a big supporter but i wonder if alot of times he’s just blowing smoke up our backsides.

    Telling us what a great connection he and Ford have seems a bit disingenuous when all evidence we’ve seen speaks to the contrary.

    We need to see this great connection ON THE FIELD where it matters.

    Last yr. Ford slipped and fell on a critical play that put the final dagger into our season..(actually we were already done but it took the last hope of any possible chance of us coming back).

    Prior to that, the one big completion to Ford was in SD which resulted in Ford being knocked out for a number of games.

    THEN we have what happened Mon. night, so visible eveidence shows this is a “connection” that isn’t working.

    We’re told to have faith and believe that behind closed doors they really do have a great thing going and not to be worried.

    We need to actually see it…when it matters. Not that pre-season matters but you get my drift.

  560. TxRaider210 Says:

    theghostronin79 Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 8:13 am
    79

    Did you get a chance to re-watch the game yet?

    ========

    Yeah the other night….Watching it in bed. Kept rewinding and watching certain plays. It’s easy to fly off the handle and start throwing dudes under the bus (Ford; that was beat to damned DEATH yesterday) but, there were so many positives to take away from that game. I feel good…..I think we’ll be just fine.

    ——————

    Yeah man the starting D and DMAC were on point for sure. The score of the game doesn’t bother me since King can’t hold for a FG worth a crap.

  561. Raider O Says:

    Good morning Hwnrdr and Nation. Not much bro. Be careful and don’t disagree with Riff, he will call you a broncos fan and a troll.

  562. guest123 Says:

    Curry still getting treatments in LA, and Allen seems to be optimistic with his comments about him joining the team. I think if he doesn’t join the team by the 3rd game of preseason, Curry will end up starting the season on the PUP and miss the first six games. Time for Burris to cement the position cuz it sure looks like it’s his to lose.

  563. TxRaider210 Says:

    Johnny

    I could give a crap what CP thinks of Ford, if Reg demodes or trades the guy, that’s his deal.imo

  564. guest123 Says:

    Looking forward to seeing Crawford and Goodson in their first action with the Silver and Black tommorow nite!

  565. DJ Johnny Says:

    558.TxRaider210 Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 8:14 am
    Raider O Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 8:12 am
    Gannon had a few great years in his 17 year career and now he is HOF caliber QB?
    Stop smoking crack!

    ———————–

    Agreed man, it really eeeks me that he ranked the Raiders 25th too.

    Yeah. It really seems Gannon has “issues” with the Raiders even with Al and Herrera gone.

    Maybe he expected that once Al died we were gonna erect a statue of him outside the O.Co. or invite him to be a special alumnus or something.

    Maybe he’d like to be part of the org. on some level and is mad they aren’t asking him to be involved on some level.

  566. guest123 Says:

    With Brandon Myers out again with his shoulder injury, which TE steps up and nabs the starting TE spot? (assuming Myers can’t go week #1)

  567. Raider O Says:

    O, and remember not to say a bad word about Gannon, we have no freedom of speech when it comes to him
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    LOL
    I’m starting to think they are related. Maybe his son?

  568. hwnrdr Says:

    guest123 Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 8:19 am
    With Brandon Myers out again with his shoulder injury, which TE steps up and nabs the starting TE spot? (assuming Myers can’t go week #1)

    How many catches did our TE’s make Monday night? I know Gordon cauht a dart, and I think I seen Ausberry catch one from TP and fight for a first down. Anything else?

  569. M Lonetree Says:

    aloha kakahiaka. good to see Hwnrdr yet keeping the mornings here in good stead.

  570. TxRaider210 Says:

    Raider O Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 8:19 am
    O, and remember not to say a bad word about Gannon, we have no freedom of speech when it comes to him
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    LOL
    I’m starting to think they are related. Maybe his son?

    ——————–

    Yeah Gannon gets secret service type protection from that guy, you’d think he was President.lol

  571. DJ Johnny Says:

    563.TxRaider210 Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 8:17 am
    Johnny

    I could give a crap what CP thinks of Ford, if Reg demodes or trades the guy, that’s his deal.imo

    Oh yeah…I agree it’s Reggies deal no matter what.

    I’m not confident in the Palmer/Ford “connection” until I see it.

    On paper, I don’t like it. I’d much rather see Palmer throwing to a 6′3 or 6′2 guy…with more physicality than a little guy like Ford who seemed helpless to stop that interception.

    Smaller target like Ford means Palmer needs to be that much more accurate in completing the pass.

    I know its preseason but no matter how much “want to” Ford has he IS limited by his size and can do only so much against those big dbacks he’ll be up against.

  572. TxRaider210 Says:

    DJ Johnny Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 8:25 am
    563.TxRaider210 Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 8:17 am
    Johnny

    I could give a crap what CP thinks of Ford, if Reg demodes or trades the guy, that’s his deal.imo

    Oh yeah…I agree it’s Reggies deal no matter what.

    I’m not confident in the Palmer/Ford “connection” until I see it.

    On paper, I don’t like it. I’d much rather see Palmer throwing to a 6′3 or 6′2 guy…with more physicality than a little guy like Ford who seemed helpless to stop that interception.

    Smaller target like Ford means Palmer needs to be that much more accurate in completing the pass.

    I know its preseason but no matter how much “want to” Ford has he IS limited by his size and can do only so much against those big dbacks he’ll be up against.

    ——————-
    Exactly man, the throw the other night was a sure TD to any other WR who’s taller, even though Ford had a chance.

  573. Raider O Says:

    Raider Riff Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 5:29 am
    Bo Jackson was a better player than Curtis Martin. Curtis Martin had a better career.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Now that’s a stupid comment!
    Bo played 2 sports, shared the load with a HOF RB, and he was injured.
    Great comparison.

  574. M Lonetree Says:

    DJ Johnny.

    Steve Smith is an little guy but his “want to” as a receiver and returner has been enough to place him among the best WRs in the NFL for a decade.

  575. hwnrdr Says:

    M Lonetree Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 8:21 am
    aloha kakahiaka. good to see Hwnrdr yet keeping the mornings here in good stead.

    Eh, Howzit M!
    Been awhile…how the heck are ya? Just anxiously waiting the final product, but the tryouts look pretty good this year, well…maybe the 3 rd stringers need a lot of work…but I like what I see so far!

  576. guest123 Says:

    Ridiculous statement about C-Mart. ALl he did was rush for 1697 yards and 12 TD’s which led the league in rushing at the age of 31. That’s remarkable stuff. First ballot HOFer no doubt, and Bo doesn’t deserve to polish his bronze statue.

  577. TxRaider210 Says:

    Gannon: Mr. McKenzie, I’d really like a chance to help your QB’s along, sir.

    Reggie: Rich, take your five-interception-throwin’-azz out of my facility and kick rocks!

  578. M Lonetree Says:

    Hwnrdr,

    just livin’ the day to day in Montana for the moment.

    game 1 breakdown :

    defense solid
    McSkinnylegs uninjured after 3 plays
    Coach Dennis puckered up and wouldn’t let SeaBass kick before halftime.
    the rest was kind of a dull blur

  579. RNOraiderFan Says:

    Gannon is back with the organization! I heard he has been taking TP for evening walks by the shore and telling his bedtime stories over the phone at night

  580. DJ Johnny Says:

    All is not fair in sports.

    These darn injuries cropping up tend to take away from the Raider buzz..but i’m seeing tons of injuries with other teams as well and some a heck of a lot worse.

    Seymour is the HIGHEST PAID DEFENSIVE PLAYER IN THE LEAGUE. Think of that…..Think of what that SHOULD translate too and what we actually get in return.

    With that kind of paper he SHOULD be a dominant force. He makes more than Ngata, Ray Lewis, Urlacher, Clay Mathews, Demarcus Ware, James Harrison, Polamalu..no need to go on.

    His age and nagging injuries are a concern too.

    Such a bummer he’s not even close in performance to those other guys who make so much less.

    When u think of what we SHOULD be getting for spending that much $$$???

  581. TxRaider210 Says:

    RNOraiderFan Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 8:35 am
    Gannon is back with the organization! I heard he has been taking TP for evening walks by the shore and telling his bedtime stories over the phone at night

    ————————
    NOOOOOOOOO!!

  582. Raidernationdave Says:

    Morning work out done. Time to bake! Whut up Nation?

    Whut up beyotches!

  583. hwnrdr Says:

    RNOraiderFan Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 8:35 am
    Gannon is back with the organization! I heard he has been taking TP for evening walks by the shore and telling his bedtime stories over the phone at night

    Pryor did reach out to Gannon, but I hope not for that… :)

  584. hwnrdr Says:

    M Lonetree Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 8:35 am
    Hwnrdr,

    just livin’ the day to day in Montana for the moment.

    game 1 breakdown :

    defense solid
    McSkinnylegs uninjured after 3 plays
    Coach Dennis puckered up and wouldn’t let SeaBass kick before halftime.
    the rest was kind of a dull blur

    True!

  585. DJ Johnny Says:

    574.M Lonetree Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 8:28 am
    DJ Johnny.

    Steve Smith is an little guy but his “want to” as a receiver and returner has been enough to place him among the best WRs in the NFL for a decade.

    Right. I would just like to actually see this great connection Palmer speaks of during an actual game.

  586. guest123 Says:

    Johnny, that’s just another “outta wack” contract that Reggie felt he had to eat but he’ll be off the books as soon as economically feasible. Not everything could be done in one year to get rid of Al’s crazy contracts.

  587. TxRaider210 Says:

    Whut up Dave? That’s how you start a morning!

  588. DJ Johnny Says:

    Guest, Yep. I don’t know where i’d rate Seymour as compared to those “impact” defensive players…or overall in the league.

    Is he really even pro bowl level at this point?

    I just hope he plays 16 games and is some semblance of what he used to be.

  589. Raidernationdave Says:

    http://www.raiders.com/news/article-1/Raiders-Sign-LB-Korey-Bosworth/b1c7bf2a-423e-4a85-9449-2a79fd135a97

    The Oakland Raiders have signed Korey Bosworth, the organization announced Thursday.

    Bosworth, a 6-foot-1, 230-pound linebacker out of UCLA, adds depth to that position on the Raiders’ roster. He will wear No. 97, and is expected to make the trip with the team to Arizona for Friday’s preseason game.

    Officially a first-year player, Bosworth initially signed as a non-drafted free agent with the Denver Broncos in 2010. He spent parts of training camp with the Detroit Lions in 2010, 2011 and 2012, and played in the Lions’ preseason opener last week vs. Cleveland.

    Bosworth played all 51 games during his four years at UCLA, starting 25 in a row over his final two seasons. His twin brother, Kyle, plays for the Jacksonville Jaguars. Their uncle is former Seattle Seahawks and University of Oklahoma linebacker Brian Bosworth.

  590. guest123 Says:

    I would just like to actually see this great connection Palmer speaks of during an actual game.

    *******

    Practice all-stars don’t count for much. Until proven otherwise this “connection” that Palmer has with Ford is rumor. It never existed.

  591. hwnrdr Says:

    Who was the guy that used to post in here quite often and when he left he always said, “Sayonara biichess”?

  592. TxRaider210 Says:

    Nice, more depth at LB! Good job Reg!

  593. raidertbone Says:

    Totally agree with Guest: Although Seymour hasn’t been horrible, he’s certainly not worth the heavy jack that he’s pulling down. Reggie is making some progress, but it will take at least a couple of more years to get out from under the shadow of some of Al’s crazy contracts.

  594. RNOraiderFan Says:

    We all know Gannon’s bedtime stories. PITTS game 20+ completions, a few wins against KC in week 17. Taking KC to the playoffs and getting benched for a guy named Elvis at QB. oh ya co-MVP with wishbone neck Manning. Ect ect e t. He is no Snake, Young, or Montana. Idk what Brown -rice say.

  595. Bob Marley Says:

    DJ.

    Settle down buddy, Palmer and Ford connected on a 20 yard TD pass yesterday at practice and some reporter asked DA about Ford’s good camp (and the following stinker on MNF) so it’s not all lip service from Palmer.

    Finally, Ford’s speed alone makes for a big weapon, he ate up the Dallas CB 7 yard cushion in a hurry on the int and the Safety was obviously paying attention to Ford as well, like I said yesterday; slants, comebacks, quicks screens and such will be there for Ford based on the cushion CB’s are giving him, now he must catch them as he’s been doing in practice, apparently.

  596. RaiderDuck Says:

    Brian Bosworth always said he wanted to be a Raider. Never happened, but at least his nephew got to be one for a short time.

  597. raidertbone Says:

    Just hope that Bosworth doesn’t get run over by Raider backs during practice, like his uncle got run over by Bo!

  598. hwnrdr Says:

    Oh oh, The Boz’s nephew?!

  599. Raider O Says:

    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 8:33 am
    Gannon: Mr. McKenzie, I’d really like a chance to help your QB’s along, sir.

    Reggie: Rich, take your five-interception-throwin’-azz out of my facility and kick rocks!
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    LMAO

  600. RaiderDuck Says:

    I still say part of the reason Seymour was brought back was because DA knew he’d be ratcheting up the discipline in year 1 and needed a respected vet to buy in 100% as an example to everyone else. He already had on offense in Palmer, but needed someone on the D to do that. If some youngster is getting whiplash from all the changes but sees Seymour putting forth everything, getting yelled at and taking it, he won’t have much choice but to work just as hard.

  601. theghostronin79 Says:

    .

  602. Thec Says:

    camp fodder, or crash dummy…

  603. guest123 Says:

    Practice stats are kept where? and they accumulate on what standings? Is there a HOF for practice stats? Till proven on the field, Ford’s only plays of note are the type of plays a rookie with jitters of being cut would make. Not one with some sort of rumored “connection”. Whatever Jacoby whatever man…

  604. hwnrdr Says:

    Ain’t it funny how Gruden kept calling Ford Jacoby Jones?

  605. theghostronin79 Says:

    Remember watching the Bosworth brothers play since i’m in PAC-12 country. They held their own pretty well….Good players on a crapy UCLA team. We obviously need that signing considering there ain’t much backing up Burris at this point.

  606. theghostronin79 Says:

    @ Guest…… Company line man….company line.

  607. Raider O Says:

    You guys are badmouthing Gannon?
    You People are Bronocs fans who come here to gather intel, and you are trolls.

    Stop Talking crap about him. He was/ is a Raiders’ God!

  608. TxRaider210 Says:

    theghostronin79 Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 8:55 am
    Remember watching the Bosworth brothers play since i’m in PAC-12 country. They held their own pretty well….Good players on a crapy UCLA team. We obviously need that signing considering there ain’t much backing up Burris at this point.

    ——————
    Truth, or Reg heard negative news from Curry and decided he’s not playing this year.idk

  609. raidertbone Says:

    True dat, Theg. I wish the new Boz well.

  610. TxRaider210 Says:

    O
    LMAO!

    Off to lunch ya’ll be back later..

  611. theghostronin79 Says:

    @ Guest…… Company line man….company line.

    I guess I would have like to hear him “Pryor Up” and own some of that trash but……I honestly didn’t expect anything else from him.

  612. RNOraiderFan Says:

    Umm, JF’s rookie year was off the chain. I saw him take two ints away from the defence in spectacular fashion and take 4 kicks to the hizzy. Hasn’t done much since.

  613. hwnrdr Says:

    If Curry is that fragile and his knee is threatening his career…he cut him lose with an injury settlement and thank him for his services (most notably taking out the SD lineman…McNeil???)

  614. raidertbone Says:

    Raider O:
    I know it was probably unintentional, but I may start referring to the Denver team as the “Bronocs” — that just sounds retarded, and I like it!

  615. hwnrdr Says:

    raidertbone Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 9:00 am
    Raider O:
    I know it was probably unintentional, but I may start referring to the Denver team as the “Bronocs” — that just sounds retarded, and I like it!

    LOL

  616. raidertbone Says:

    Curry = done

  617. theghostronin79 Says:

    (most notably taking out the SD lineman…McNeil???)

    ====================

    that was pretty sweet wasn’t it?

    It opened the door for Wimbley to Run Amuck that game and take Rivers’ lunch money.

  618. DJ Johnny Says:

    Duck,

    I can see that. It makes sense. I’m sure Reggie says “we need this guy..but dang that’s alot of money”.

  619. RNOraiderFan Says:

    Dhb, Moore, Streeter, Ford, Crinor

  620. Bob Marley Says:

    Guest.

    Did you notice that Palmer threw 3 of his 6 or 7 passes to Ford? you could say that Ford was his go to guy that day.

    The long ball was close and the following 2 drops hit Ford’s hands, I’m thinking the connection is there, except that Jacoby had a bad day.

  621. RaiderDuck Says:

    Also, the Giants just cut LB Clint Sintim, a 2009 second-round pick who blew out his ACL in 2010 and hasn’t played since. Might he be worth signing and stashing on IR for a year? Could pay off down the road.

  622. Thec Says:

    most notably taking out the SD lineman…McNeil???)

    +++++++

    He deserves a very nice severance for just the hit on mcneil alone. He contributed well in his short tenure as they are still looking for a LT to replace him.

  623. The Big Banana Says:

    Guest123 Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 8:46 am
    I would just like to actually see this great connection Palmer speaks of during an actual game.

    *******

    Practice all-stars don’t count for much. Until proven otherwise this “connection” that Palmer has with Ford is rumor. It never existed.

    ———

    Lol, very true. Same goes for Criner.

  624. RNOraiderFan Says:

    Hope Currys not done. He’s our best LB

  625. theghostronin79 Says:

    Hope Currys not done. He’s our best LB

    =========

    I find myself leaning towards Wheeler this year. It’s just a hunch.

  626. theghostronin79 Says:

    Lol, very true. Same goes for Criner.

    =============

    that drop from Lice, was definately a “Head Slapper”……C’mon MAYNE……
    Gotta be jitters. He’s better than that.

  627. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “Hope Currys not done. He’s our best LB”

    Against the run maybe but once he has to run his hips he gets lost in coverage which is the reason Seattle let him go so cheap.

    Sure he has a great motor and can hit the gap hard but he needs top be able to cover better.

  628. Raider O Says:

    Raidertbone Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 9:00 am
    Raider O:
    I know it was probably unintentional, but I may start referring to the Denver team as the “Bronocs” — that just sounds retarded, and I like it!
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    LOL
    Do I get royalties?

  629. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    I don’t believe in Ford anymore.
    A true pro does not have an outing like that.
    To say he had a bad day was an understatement to say the least.

  630. hwnrdr Says:

    Thec Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 9:03 am
    most notably taking out the SD lineman…McNeil???)

    +++++++

    He deserves a very nice severance for just the hit on mcneil alone. He contributed well in his short tenure as they are still looking for a LT to replace him.

    LOL, so true! What’s up Thec?

  631. RNOraiderFan Says:

    Forrest Gummin

  632. DJ Johnny Says:

    Bob Marley,

    Yes. I’m looking forward to seeing this connection translate to the field on game day.

    You know how it is, until you actually see it….

  633. Bob Marley Says:

    Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    I don’t believe in Ford anymore.

    A true pro does not have an outing like that.

    To say he had a bad day was an understatement to say the least.
    —————————————————-

    Guessing DHB is not a true pro then, he had several bad outings over his first 2 years, right?.

  634. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    I wonder how long it will be before Jacoby is hanging with JLH at the barbershop talking about the good ole days when they took 3 balls to the house on returns in 1 season. Ah the good ole days

  635. Thec Says:

    hwnrdr, all is well Bruh. How are u doing?

  636. DJ Johnny Says:

    I hope there is one of those “off shore” links to the game tomorrow night.

    I’d rather not have to wait for the replay on NFLN.

  637. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    Bob Marley Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 9:16 am
    Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    I don’t believe in Ford anymore.

    A true pro does not have an outing like that.

    To say he had a bad day was an understatement to say the least.
    —————————————————-

    Guessing DHB is not a true pro then, he had several bad outings over his first 2 years, right?.
    ————-
    In my modest opinion the huge difference was DHB cared he just sucked early on. With Jacoby and his 3am tweeting on gasme day I question his dedacation. I never questioned DHB’s work ethic/priorities. just sayin

  638. hwnrdr Says:

    Thec Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 9:18 am
    hwnrdr, all is well Bruh. How are u doing?

    All good! Kinda cool day in the Bay this morning! Waiting for tomorrow evening!!!

  639. Thec Says:

    Anyone thinks we get rid of JFORD via trade or cuts is missing a couple of blue moons out of his or her 6 pack.

  640. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    DJ Johnny Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 9:19 am
    I hope there is one of those “off shore” links to the game tomorrow night.

    I’d rather not have to wait for the replay on NFLN.
    ————-
    I second that!

  641. DJ Johnny Says:

    Raiders practicing today?

    Just a walk thru w/o pads?

  642. DJ Johnny Says:

    640.Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 9:20 am
    DJ Johnny Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 9:19 am
    I hope there is one of those “off shore” links to the game tomorrow night.

    I’d rather not have to wait for the replay on NFLN.
    ————-
    I second that!

    If u find one let us know ok? I’ll do the same.

  643. Thec Says:

    DJ Johnny,

    firstrowsports dot eu

    they have ALL sporting events, even pay per view widgets. Bets of all the commission cannot shut the euro down.

  644. Bob Marley Says:

    DJ Johnny Says:

    Yes. I’m looking forward to seeing this connection translate to the field on game day.

    You know how it is, until you actually see it….
    —————————————————

    You are right, I do wanna see it on the field too man, I’m confident we will soon enough.

  645. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    Thec Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 9:20 am
    Anyone thinks we get rid of JFORD via trade or cuts is missing a couple of blue moons out of his or her 6 pack.
    ————-
    mmmm blue moon.
    Ford has minimal trade value.
    I don’t see an out right release for Ford just wouldn’t be shocked if he is pushed down the depth chart by a rookie who takes things a little more seriously. imo

  646. TxRaider210 Says:

    Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 9:20 am
    DJ Johnny Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 9:19 am
    I hope there is one of those “off shore” links to the game tomorrow night.

    I’d rather not have to wait for the replay on NFLN.
    ————-
    I second that!

    ———-
    If I find a good link, I’ll post it prior to gametime..

  647. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    DJ Johnny Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 9:21 am
    640.Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 9:20 am
    DJ Johnny Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 9:19 am
    I hope there is one of those “off shore” links to the game tomorrow night.

    I’d rather not have to wait for the replay on NFLN.
    ————-
    I second that!

    If u find one let us know ok? I’ll do the same.
    ————-
    you got it!

  648. DJ Johnny Says:

    I don’t care what kind of feed of the game I get. Even it’s the one where you see waitresses serving nachos to people and it’s some guy holding a camera at some big screen tv at a crowded bar.

  649. Bob Marley Says:

    Looks like I’ll need a link myself….thanks in advance!.

  650. DJ Johnny Says:

    Thanks Txraider.

    Looks like we got it covered then.

  651. TxRaider210 Says:

    Normally the games are fine on vip box dot tv, but the tv channels act up some times. Try that one first for sure guys.

  652. Thec Says:

    mmmm blue moon.
    Ford has minimal trade value.
    I don’t see an out right release for Ford just wouldn’t be shocked if he is pushed down the depth chart by a rookie who takes things a little more ser
    iously. imo

    +++++++++++

    Agreed…

  653. TxRaider210 Says:

    There’s normally 3 ads to close before the stream kicks in..

  654. Thec Says:

    firstrowsports dot eu

  655. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    DJ Johnny Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 9:23 am
    I don’t care what kind of feed of the game I get. Even it’s the one where you see waitresses serving nachos to people and it’s some guy holding a camera at some big screen tv at a crowded bar.
    ————
    lol, hopefully the waitress is at least a cutie

  656. Raidernationdave Says:

    587. Tx! Whut up homie. Nation.

    Found out yesterday that the dealership screw up on my back-end on about 65% of my mini’s. They gotta scratch a check for $3,600 to me!

  657. The Big Banana Says:

    You guys just need to go with firstrowsports as Thec has posted twice now.

  658. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    49ers say Crabtree is faster than ever
    ————————
    That’s great, but DHB is still faster
    And Taiwan & Ford &…

  659. DJ Johnny Says:

    http://www.firstrow.eu

    They have the links up for the two games that’ll be on tonight…Bengals vs. Falcons and Packers and Browns so cross your fingers links for the Raiders will be available tom. night.

    Watch out for the porno pop ups and make sure anti-virus is working.

    I’ll test it tonight to see if it’s working. That’ll be a good sign.

  660. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    Raiders sign Korey Bosworth, nephew of The Boz
    ——————–
    Hopefully his “persona” isn’t like that dork who got plowed by Bo Jackson lol

  661. TxRaider210 Says:

    Raidernationdave Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 9:30 am
    587. Tx! Whut up homie. Nation.

    Found out yesterday that the dealership screw up on my back-end on about 65% of my mini’s. They gotta scratch a check for $3,600 to me!

    ———————–

    Nice bro, that’s a good chunk o change, that you weren’t expecting I assume. Always a good surprise eh?

  662. DJ Johnny Says:

    657.The Big Banana Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 9:30 am
    You guys just need to go with firstrowsports as Thec has posted twice now.

    You beat me to it. Must’ve missed that.

    Thanks.

  663. Thec Says:

    DJ Johnny Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 9:31 am
    http://www.firstrow.eu

    They have the links up for the two games that’ll be on tonight…Bengals vs. Falcons and Packers and Browns so cross your fingers links for the Raiders will be available tom. night.

    Watch out for the porno pop ups and make sure anti-virus is working.

    I’ll test it tonight to see if it’s working. That’ll be a good sign.

    ++++++++

    That site is nails…they have ALL games at ALL times.

  664. TxRaider210 Says:

    DJ Johnny Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 9:31 am
    http://www.firstrow.eu

    They have the links up for the two games that’ll be on tonight…Bengals vs. Falcons and Packers and Browns so cross your fingers links for the Raiders will be available tom. night.

    Watch out for the porno pop ups and make sure anti-virus is working.

    I’ll test it tonight to see if it’s working. That’ll be a good sign.

    —————
    Honestly bro, the Vipbox dot tv is a better feed and won’t buffer. The first pop-up is gray, close it with middle icon top right corner and you’re good. Dave was kind enough to hook a brother up with that site!

  665. DJ Johnny Says:

    655.Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 9:27 am
    DJ Johnny Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 9:23 am
    I don’t care what kind of feed of the game I get. Even it’s the one where you see waitresses serving nachos to people and it’s some guy holding a camera at some big screen tv at a crowded bar.
    ————
    lol, hopefully the waitress is at least a cutie

    Ha. Right.

  666. Silverandblack666 Says:

    666

  667. DJ Johnny Says:

    664,

    Cool. Thanks Tx.

  668. TxRaider210 Says:

    DJ Johnny Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 9:37 am
    664,

    Cool. Thanks Tx.

    —–

    No problem, I give the credit to Dave for that one. I used to use firstrow, but it will almost always buffer more than vip.

  669. DJ Johnny Says:

    Hey TX,

    On that vipbox it’s asking to DOWNLOAD NOW or WATCH GAMES.

    Do I click on that DOWNLOAD BOX?

  670. Thec Says:

    Honestly bro, the Vipbox dot tv is a better feed and won’t buffer. The first pop-up is gray, close it with middle icon top right corner and you’re good. Dave was kind enough to hook a brother up with that site!
    ++++++

    Never tried it however, i will give it a spin on friday.

  671. TxRaider210 Says:

    DJ Johnny Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 9:40 am
    Hey TX,

    On that vipbox it’s asking to DOWNLOAD NOW or WATCH GAMES.

    Do I click on that DOWNLOAD BOX?

    ——————
    No need to download anything, just click American football and choose the game. The first gray pop up is tricky, only the middle icon will close it.

  672. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    I’m not really in the”know with these sites.
    Has anyone had any problems with viruses or anything?
    Just don’t want to hear the wife’s mouth in case I screw up the computer lol.

  673. TxRaider210 Says:

    Thec Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 9:41 am
    Honestly bro, the Vipbox dot tv is a better feed and won’t buffer. The first pop-up is gray, close it with middle icon top right corner and you’re good. Dave was kind enough to hook a brother up with that site!
    ++++++

    Never tried it however, i will give it a spin on friday.

    ———————-
    It’s my go-to now, but if not I use firstrow, anything for us to watch some Raiders!

  674. TxRaider210 Says:

    Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 9:41 am
    I’m not really in the”know with these sites.
    Has anyone had any problems with viruses or anything?
    Just don’t want to hear the wife’s mouth in case I screw up the computer lol.

    ———————
    I’ve never had any issues with a cheap laptop and no virus software on it..just my experience though

  675. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 9:43 am
    Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 9:41 am
    I’m not really in the”know with these sites.
    Has anyone had any problems with viruses or anything?
    Just don’t want to hear the wife’s mouth in case I screw up the computer lol.

    ———————
    I’ve never had any issues with a cheap laptop and no virus software on it..just my experience though
    —————–
    that is good to hear!

  676. TxRaider210 Says:

    All those sites have little tricks to the pop-ups, but normally the smallest X will close the ads, they may take 30 seconds to expire before playing the feed as well.

  677. TxRaider210 Says:

    Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 9:44 am
    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 9:43 am
    Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 9:41 am
    I’m not really in the”know with these sites.
    Has anyone had any problems with viruses or anything?
    Just don’t want to hear the wife’s mouth in case I screw up the computer lol.

    ———————
    I’ve never had any issues with a cheap laptop and no virus software on it..just my experience though
    —————–
    that is good to hear!

    ——–
    Either that or Toshiba laptops are built for bear.lol

  678. The Big Banana Says:

    Better feed on vipbox, eh? I’ll have to give it a try.

  679. TxRaider210 Says:

    The Big Banana Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 9:46 am
    Better feed on vipbox, eh? I’ll have to give it a try.

    ——————
    It’s the only one I use now, just one more option for the Nation.

  680. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Super excited that Raiders signed The Boz II!

  681. TxRaider210 Says:

    Many of the TV channels on that site don’t work a lot, but every game and UFC fight have been gravy, thus far.

  682. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    ATDHE(dot)NET is where I get my Raider fixes at!

  683. TxRaider210 Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 9:51 am
    Super excited that Raiders signed The Boz II!

    ——————-
    More LB depth, very good move by Reg, and the kid comes from a football family!

  684. TxRaider210 Says:

    682

    Klas just mentioned another decent site for any semis out there, forgot about that one.

  685. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    The Boz – roids!

  686. guest123 Says:

    I thought the feds specifically targeted the site in post 682 and shut it down. no?

  687. TxRaider210 Says:

    686

    Yes the feds did, along with firstrow, by they seem to re-emerge from the dead.lol

  688. TxRaider210 Says:

    but*

  689. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Does Bo Jackson have children playing football?

  690. TxRaider210 Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 9:58 am
    Does Bo Jackson have children playing football?

    —————
    If he does, they should be groomed to play for the Raiders.

  691. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    I hate the feds. They are always screwing with us Swedes. We don’t believe in copyright laws in the land of ice and snow. Information should be free!

  692. TxRaider210 Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 10:01 am
    I hate the feds. They are always screwing with us Swedes. We don’t believe in copyright laws in the land of ice and snow. Information should be free!

    ——————–
    Us too Klas, what the heck is Immigration and Customs enforcement doing d1cking with our internet?

  693. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Screw copyright! I take what I want for free!

  694. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    I’m a god dam Ice Pirate!

  695. TxRaider210 Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 10:04 am
    I’m a god dam Ice Pirate!

    ——————

    LMAO, Especially since ICE is the ones shutting sites down!

  696. Marks hair Says:

    Practice time today?

  697. Thec Says:

    McKenzie thinks Philip Wheeler can be a playmaker like McFadden http://blog.sfgate.com/raiders/2012/08/16/mckenzie-thinks-philip-wheeler-can-be-a-playmaker-like-mcfadden/

  698. hwnrdr Says:

    Thec Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 10:08 am
    McKenzie thinks Philip Wheeler can be a playmaker like McFadden http://blog.sfgate.com/raiders/2012/08/16/mckenzie-thinks-philip-wheeler-can-be-a-playmaker-like-mcfadden/

    YES! I think good move by Reggie!!!

  699. Thec Says:

    9:50a Walk thorugh only i think

  700. Thec Says:

    Vic Tafur‏@VicTafur

    @BYS1981 9:50 walkthrough today

  701. hwnrdr Says:

    I wonder if the new CBA rules are actually hurting the players?

  702. Thec Says:

    YES! I think good move by Reggie!!!

    +++++++

    I beleive reg has the IT factor when it comes to finding talent.

    totally gets why he likes his picks.

  703. hwnrdr Says:

    Agreed Thec! Agreed!

  704. Thec Says:

    hwnrdr Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 10:10 am
    I wonder if the new CBA rules are actually hurting the players?

    +++++++++

    Good point….reps…reps…reps…

    Players seem too pampered now a days imo.

  705. TxRaider210 Says:

    Thec Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 10:11 am
    YES! I think good move by Reggie!!!

    +++++++

    I beleive reg has the IT factor when it comes to finding talent.

    totally gets why he likes his picks.

    ———-
    Endorsed! The big man has a plan!

  706. Marks hair Says:

    What’s the point in a walkthru if there’s no gameplay?

  707. Marks hair Says:

    Gameplan. Stop changing my words. Fascinate 3…

  708. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    McFadden is not laterally explosive or shifty enough to change directions on a dime, but he can create his own space just off sheer speed
    …………………………………………….
    http://fifthdown.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/08/16/oakland-raiders-2012-n-f-l-season-preview/
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    from a nytimes article this guy should be puched in the face for writing articles he knows ish about betcha mcfadden would beg to differ.what an idiot

  709. guest123 Says:

    I think the new CBA rules are definitely hurting the players.

    Start with the 6 wk layoff from OTAs to training camp. What does that do to all the DUI’s and other infractions?

    Then go into elimination of the old two-a-days with now limited contact in some drills. Problem is that you can’t get into “football shape” without actually playing football, and tackling always suffers.

  710. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    cant tell ya how many times ive seen this guys exslposiveness and c.o.d on a dime

  711. Kirk Says:

    The Raiders just signed Brian Bosworth’s nephew.

    Will Bo Jackson’s nephew run him over in a game?

  712. guest123 Says:

    I read that NYTimes article this morning. Or I scanned it to be clearer. One paragraph told me that the author is clueless about the 2012 Raiders and has zero credibility. Amazing how some people get paid to write about things they have no understanding about.

  713. Raider O Says:

    Wheeler at $750,000 is a steal.
    Great job Reggie.

  714. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    guest its unreal how do they get paid to do this that guy should stick to ff

  715. Bob Marley Says:

    Klas.

    You’re one funny “euro” lol.

  716. HGDaddy Says:

    Darren Urban ‏@Cardschatter

    With O’Brien Schofield ailing, the Cards could look closer at Quentin Groves Friday http://bit.ly/QFWIKf #AZvsOAK

  717. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    mcfadden is not explosive wtf hes the most explosive back ive seen in years.health is the issue not explosivness

  718. hwnrdr Says:

    mcskinnnylegs Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 10:20 am
    mcfadden is not explosive wtf hes the most explosive back ive seen in years.health is the issue not explosivness

    Nah, we are all on speed, therefore dilusional :)

  719. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Bob Marley Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 10:19 am
    Klas.

    You’re one funny “euro” lol.
    ——
    Thanks man! I dig your reggae vibe. How many kids do you have now?

  720. Thec Says:

    from a nytimes article this guy should be puched in the face for writing articles he knows ish about betcha mcfadden would beg to differ.what an idiot

    +++++++++++++

    Mediot has never seen DMAC play…Dumd @$$

  721. Thec Says:

    DMAC when healthy is the best RB in the NFL…PERIOD

  722. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    theres no way you’ve seen mcfadden play and say hes not explosive dude had 4 plays the other day 3 were to him and thats all it took for me to say yup dude is a beast.(still)

  723. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    thec agreed so does champ bailey who said it on top 100 players.and he said thats the 1 back you DONT want to get hit by.i call that explosivness.no?

  724. McFaddens_Sneakers Says:

    Wuzup Nation whats trending.

  725. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Run DMC is the most explosive back in NFL. No doubts.

  726. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    wish i could write that guy and say hey moron dont ever post about the raiders again.but i will not do it b/c then its just another raiders fan being dillusional right.f these people

  727. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    mcfaden sneakers see post 708

  728. Thec Says:

    mcskinnnylegs Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 10:26 am
    theres no way you’ve seen mcfadden play and say hes not explosive dude had 4 plays the other day 3 were to him and thats all it took for me to say yup dude is a beast.(still)

    ++++++

    I am at the jest game last year, get up to go to the restroom, soon as I get to the top of the stairs BOOM, crowd goes crazy…WTF…..DMAC goes for 70 yard TD.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdfyvRHgRrs

  729. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    Regardless of what happens with McClain legally, Oakland will probably look closely at replacing him after this season. In the meantime, he’ll almost certainly be replaced in the dime package, if not the nickel. But by whom? Starting weakside linebacker Aaron Curry has never been very comfortable in coverage. And new strongside starter Phillip Wheeler was always just a body in coverage
    …………………………………………….

    another dumbass paragraph in that article

  730. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Klas has got a case of the boring at work.

  731. Thec Says:

    I normally do not get excited about presea games however, the empty set with DMAC lined up….WOW…

    that had me fired the hell up… Before the int the O was marching in.

  732. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    thec looks like he changed direction on the dime about 4 or 5 times in that 1 play

  733. hwnrdr Says:

    mcskinnnylegs Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 10:31 am
    Regardless of what happens with McClain legally, Oakland will probably look closely at replacing him after this season. In the meantime, he’ll almost certainly be replaced in the dime package, if not the nickel. But by whom? Starting weakside linebacker Aaron Curry has never been very comfortable in coverage. And new strongside starter Phillip Wheeler was always just a body in coverage
    …………………………………………….

    another dumbass paragraph in that article

    Did they drug test this guy?

  734. Thec Says:

    thec looks like he changed direction on the dime about 4 or 5 times in that 1 play

    ++++++++++

    I believe 100% of what the media says. they are right ALL the time, especially when it comes to the NATION.

  735. Thec Says:

    Did they drug test this guy?

    +++++++++

    bath salts

  736. theghostronin79 Says:

    I normally do not get excited about presea games however, the empty set with DMAC lined up….WOW…

    that had me fired the hell up… Before the int the O was marching in.

    ========

    With Ease…..I’m not worried. We saw .000025% of that offense on Monday. They’ll be dynamic, Quick, and rutheless….. Points will be scored by the dozens.

  737. hwnrdr Says:

    Thec Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 10:35 am
    thec looks like he changed direction on the dime about 4 or 5 times in that 1 play

    ++++++++++

    I believe 100% of what the media says. they are right ALL the time, especially when it comes to the NATION.

    LOL, who are you and what you did with my man, The C!

  738. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    @andy_benoit

    i dont do twitter but if any of you guys do please twitt him and tell him to never write about mcfadden again please im begging you and dont do it in a rude way thats how we get the bad rep

  739. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Phillip Wheeler’s new nickname will be Hell on Wheelz

  740. Thec Says:

    anywho got to run out.

    All you guys enjoy the day.

    1 NATION, only NATION…………RAIDER NATION

  741. The Big Banana Says:

    Thec Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 10:30 am
    mcskinnnylegs Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 10:26 am
    theres no way you’ve seen mcfadden play and say hes not explosive dude had 4 plays the other day 3 were to him and thats all it took for me to say yup dude is a beast.(still)

    ++++++

    I am at the jest game last year, get up to go to the restroom, soon as I get to the top of the stairs BOOM, crowd goes crazy…WTF…..DMAC goes for 70 yard TD.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdfyvRHgRrs

    ————

    Stop it, Thec! Can’t wait for the season to get started!!!

  742. guest123 Says:

    And just like Corkran, the idiot author of that NYTimes article predicted a 4th place finish in the AFC West. LOL

  743. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    Thec Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 10:35 am
    Did they drug test this guy?

    +++++++++

    bath salts
    ……………………………………………

    lmao

  744. guest123 Says:

    NATION, only NATION…………RAIDER NATION

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^

    ONE NATION#

  745. theghostronin79 Says:

    Hell on Wheelz?

    Death Ro?

    FUUUGGGG YEAH…..LOVE IT….

    gotta come up with something for Burris.

  746. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    Follow @Andy_Benoit

    e-mail andy.benoit@nfltouchdown.com
    ……………………………………………

    someone please im just to damn pissed i will rip into that guy

  747. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Theghostronin79 Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 10:38 am
    Hell on Wheelz?

    Death Ro?

    FUUUGGGG YEAH…..LOVE IT….

    gotta come up with something for Burris.
    ——–
    Burris = The Swede

  748. The Big Banana Says:

    Theghostronin79 Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 10:38 am
    Hell on Wheelz?

    Death Ro?

    FUUUGGGG YEAH…..LOVE IT….

    gotta come up with something for Burris.

    ———-

    The Grinder? Get it, Burr grinder? Ok, Never mind…

  749. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    p.o.s is lucky i gotta sign up to leave a comment on that page

  750. hwnrdr Says:

    Burr Backer!

  751. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    NEW POST ITS THE SH1T!!!!

  752. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    how about burr is good

  753. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    thanks

  754. McFaddens_Sneakers Says:

    Tried reading that nytimes article but its clear this guy dont know WTF he talking about. We all know that if healthy DMC is one of the top backs in the leage. He can make guys miss and is explosive not to mention that nasty stiffarm he gives defendes when they try to bring him down. And he also said that we would finish under .500

  755. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    new blog post or gay post to the left

  756. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    Fffffffff that guy

  757. TxRaider210 Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 10:36 am
    Phillip Wheeler’s new nickname will be Hell on Wheelz

    —————-
    Nice one Klas, I dig it!

  758. TxRaider210 Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 10:41 am
    Theghostronin79 Says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 10:38 am
    Hell on Wheelz?

    Death Ro?

    FUUUGGGG YEAH…..LOVE IT….

    gotta come up with something for Burris.
    ——–
    Burris = The Swede

    —————-
    Someone came up with Tenacious “B” for Burris.

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