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Ford on crutches, Leinart hurt

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Friday, August 17th, 2012 at 10:01 pm in Oakland Raiders.

With the Cardinals leading 31-24 in the fourth quarter, Oakland’s biggest problems other than preseason mistakes appear to be an injury to Jacoby Ford (he’s on crutches with a foot injury) and quarterback Matt Leinart, although his finger injury was on his right (non-throwing hand).

Scrambling on deadline for print products, will update if possible . . .

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220 Responses to “Ford on crutches, Leinart hurt”

  1. mcfadden20. Says:

    RAIDERS

  2. JB Says:

    code black – we need it now

  3. KoolKell Says:

    Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:
    August 17th, 2012 at 9:59 pm

    Even Romac thinks Plaxico is careless with firearms…
    ————–
    Nice. Lmao.

  4. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Pryor can’t even run the ball well. Wasted pick.

  5. mcfadden20. Says:

    Good thing Pryor didn’t get the 1st down, he still needs to learn how to make plays with his arm , maybe that will stop him from running in every play

  6. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    bs flag called on da on and reggie mcfake

  7. JB Says:

    I don’t see TP as any answer to any question that might come up. That is unless it is Who gets cut next.

  8. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Knapp won’t even let Pryor throw the ball.

  9. mcfadden20. Says:

    2nd or 3rd stringersgetting abused on the ground lol

  10. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    i knew da was a donkey

  11. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Knapp won’t even let Pryor throw the ball.

    **********************

    That was not a designed run, and Knapp didn’t seem too thrilled with him either.

  12. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    What happened to Matt Lice ?

    Finger injury on non-throwing hand ?

    Out for the season ?

  13. JB Says:

    Checkwa is a better choice than DVD. DVD is just too slight & short. Needs much more meat on the bone.

  14. Dirty Hippie Says:

    Time to move TP to WR! Like everyone was saying.

    Another Nice Pick bye Al. :(

  15. Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:

    Clayton destined to back up DMAC

  16. ddsman Says:

    TP = downgrade from Jamarcuss

  17. raidertalk Says:

    Call plays that suit TP’s talents damn it lets see some roll-outs

  18. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    ah yes the criner seperation….

  19. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Short field Pryor, have to get this done for your career.

  20. 504 Raider Says:

    If Pryor thought last week he played like Dog Crap:

    This week it’s that same crap in a 1 gallon Ziplock Bag with an added 8 oz cup of piss. Sealed.

  21. Dirty Hippie Says:

    ah yes the criner seperation….

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    damn it my made me spit up some BEER! lmfao!

  22. KoolKell Says:

    There’s nothing in the playbook.

  23. Raider O Says:

    Bad throw TP. Throw it outside!

  24. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Pryor did the right thing trying to look off the safety, he just isn’t anywhere close to any NFL thrower.

  25. JB Says:

    Haslam sucks. Cut him now.

  26. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    What’s the score ? How much time left ?

  27. Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:

    finally…a false start…

  28. JB Says:

    TP will NEVER be an NFL QB. Write it down.

  29. ddsman Says:

    Hey Lonyeaeae follow blockers #rocketscience

  30. Dirty Hippie Says:

    who didn’t see that screen coming a mile away?

    Krappy you have always SUCKED as a OC!

  31. Try Some Reality Says:

    504 Raider Says:
    August 17th, 2012 at 10:08 pm
    If Pryor thought last week he played like Dog Crap:

    This week it’s that same crap in a 1 gallon Ziplock Bag with an added 8 oz cup of piss. Sealed.

    =======================

    lol

  32. Just Fire Baby Says:

    LOL….OK I don’t get this.

  33. JB Says:

    There absolutely no improvement from last week for TP. He’s giving us his all but it’s OBVIOUSLY not enough.

  34. ddsman Says:

    I hope the plane crashes on the flight back…TP may/or may not be the only fatality #justsayin

  35. raidertalk Says:

    Carmona!!! 53 yarders

  36. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    Has Pryor completed a pass yet ? Has he thrown the ball yet ?

  37. mcfadden20. Says:

    Sloppy football lol

  38. JB Says:

    ddsman Says:
    August 17th, 2012 at 10:12 pm

    I hope the plane crashes on the flight back…TP may/or may not be the only fatality #justsayin
    *********************

    Don’t even joke about that. Not funny!

  39. raidertalk Says:

    Its not TP’s fault when hassle jumps off side.
    Get Pryor in open space let him make plays and get some momentum

  40. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Pryor has completed two passes that traveled about -3 yards from the LOS.

  41. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    Louis Murphy played well for the Panthers.

  42. ddsman Says:

    Pryor completed a pass but then traded the stat sheet to prove it for tattoos

  43. mcfadden20. Says:

    WOW Van Dyke could have gotten the int

  44. ddsman Says:

    DVDick

  45. Try Some Reality Says:

    DVD getting beat by scrubs. What happened to the camp success?

  46. JB Says:

    We need to find a replacement #2 QB fast. TP is not the answer. Caballero? Anyone seen him do anything yet?

  47. raidertalk Says:

    Got damn it DVD put your hands up!

  48. Just Fire Baby Says:

    DVD can’t play.

    That dude just blew past him

  49. Marks hair Says:

    Dvdork.

  50. Dirty Hippie Says:

    JB Says:
    August 17th, 2012 at 10:14 pm

    ddsman Says:
    August 17th, 2012 at 10:12 pm

    I hope the plane crashes on the flight back…TP may/or may not be the only fatality #justsayin
    *********************

    Don’t even joke about that. Not funny!

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Only OK when speaking of the PATIES! FVCK TOM BRADY!!! It was a Fumble…….

    FVCK WALT COLEMAN!

  51. ddsman Says:

    JB I hope you get in a car crash tomorrow but only lose 1 appendage…

  52. mcfadden20. Says:

    our 2nd and 3rd stringers are either tired because playing after 3 days rest or they either suck lol

  53. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    yup but we have criner instead of murphy…that mcfake

  54. Marks hair Says:

    Need rb, qb & t…

  55. mcfadden20. Says:

    Go RAIDERS

  56. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    I want to see Caballero.

  57. RaiderRockstar Says:

    nite gents. i’ve seen enough

  58. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Guess Chekwa distanced himself as the #3.

    DVD is bombing again in the preseason.

  59. JB Says:

    ddsman Says:
    August 17th, 2012 at 10:16 pm

    JB I hope you get in a car crash tomorrow but only lose 1 appendage…
    *******************

    Yeah, the wart on my ass. Sorry to see you go.

  60. ddsman Says:

    I want to see Jamarcus

  61. Marks hair Says:

    41 again..

  62. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    rr take your praise, cost cutting loving of reggie mckfake with you…

  63. 504 Raider Says:

    If DVD is the best DB in camp, I’m gonna write Tarver and tell him to do more than spying him on Owen Schmitt.

  64. Marks hair Says:

    We are not a playoff team…

  65. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    this has to be the worst draft class in the history of the raiders, christo blocked 6 yards back

  66. ddsman Says:

    Playoffs!?!?!? Playoffs!?!?!?!

  67. Dirty Hippie Says:

    Marks hair Says:
    August 17th, 2012 at 10:19 pm

    We are not a playoff team…

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Easy it’s garbage pre-season……

  68. JB Says:

    OK, looks like we need to find a new #2 RB, a new #2 QB, a DVD replacement, a new OC & a new smash-mouth offense – all by next week. Good luck to us.

  69. ddsman Says:

    Ahahhahaha DVDick

  70. raidertalk Says:

    You WANT to see DuhMarcus???
    At the zoo?

  71. Dirty Hippie Says:

    DA has to see who makes the 53 man roster out of almost 90 guys.

    Lot of these scrubs will be gone soon

  72. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    CABALLERO CABALLERO CABALLERO CABALLERO!

  73. Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:

    Enjoying watching my Raiders…

  74. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    no man we need a new coach, def coord, new gm

  75. Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:

    until that play…lol!

  76. mcfadden20. Says:

    Has DVD ever stopped any one from going outside ?

  77. KoolKell Says:

    DA kinda looked stunned

  78. Just Fire Baby Says:

    When in doubt, run it right at DVD…….

  79. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    What was the point of playing lienart after his td drive? He has proven all camp that he is executing the offense better than any other qb on the roster. Not only did we miss a chance to let pryor play, but lienart also got hurt.

    Dont blame the oc its the first string starters especially carson palmer that must play better

  80. Marks hair Says:

    67. Its not an opinion i formed just now..

  81. JB Says:

    Injuries right now are the most concerning.

  82. Dirty Hippie Says:

    Al_is_theraiders Says:
    August 17th, 2012 at 10:22 pm

    no man we need a new coach, def coord, new gm

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    WOW after to stupid pre-season games, yea your a Diehard!

    lol If I cut you, you bleed Niner red, Not silver & Black! :)

  83. raidertalk Says:

    Goodnite gentlemen raider-on; and remember its only preseason and DMac ain’t hurt…yet

  84. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    August 17th, 2012 at 10:23 pm
    DA kinda looked stunned
    ——-
    F*ck you

  85. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    blind open your eyes…these guys suck da, tarver, and reggie mck

  86. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    no i just know that this isnt raider ball at all

  87. Marks hair Says:

    79. Missed a chance? Tp played extra.. he’s dead weight..

  88. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    August 17th, 2012 at 10:23 pm
    What was the point of playing lienart after his td drive? He has proven all camp that he is executing the offense better than any other qb on the roster. Not only did we miss a chance to let pryor play, but lienart also got hurt.
    ——
    F*ck you.

  89. DJ Johnny Says:

    DICK Van Dyke the actor would do better than DVD. And he’s like 87 yrs. old.

  90. RaiderDuck Says:

    DVD may have been the last of Al’s “Looks great in practice, but sucks when the game begins” picks (the jury’s still out on Pryor).

  91. KoolKell Says:

    1 TD in 2 games?

  92. DJ Johnny Says:

    39.raidertalk Says:
    August 17th, 2012 at 10:14 pm
    Its not TP’s fault when hassle jumps off side.
    Get Pryor in open space let him make plays and get some momentum

    …or he’ll just fall down short of the 1st like he did on that 3rd and 2.

    I thought if there is one thing he could do it’d be that…

  93. RaiderDuck Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    August 17th, 2012 at 10:29 pm
    1 TD in 2 games?

    ==========================================

    With a pure vanilla preseason gameplan and DMAC playing sparingly, sure. No need to push the panic unless we play this way when the games count.

  94. Raid uh Max Says:

    PISSED OFF!!!

  95. RaiderDuck Says:

    LOL at the people panicking. IT’S THE PRESEASON, PEOPLE. If we’re playing this way come September, that’s one thing. But we won’t be. So chill.

  96. Marks hair Says:

    LOUD NOISES!!!

  97. realtruraider Says:

    You People are funny, lol

  98. morilla Says:

    RaiderDuck Says:
    August 17th, 2012 at 10:32 pm
    LOL at the people panicking. IT’S THE PRESEASON, PEOPLE. If we’re playing this way come September, that’s one thing. But we won’t be. So chill.
    ——

    Exactly.

  99. realtruraider Says:

    A fkin shooting at the game in parking lot, wtf

  100. RaiderDuck Says:

    Realtruraider Says:
    August 17th, 2012 at 10:34 pm
    A fkin shooting at the game in parking lot, wtf

    ============================================

    Seriously? Ouch. People I know were at that game.

  101. Bob Marley Says:

    Right now, there are far more important issues for this team than a young, backup CB’s play.

    Good night people, see you guys tomorrow morning, I’m sure we’ll be in a better mood by then.

  102. realtruraider Says:

    Steve Corkran‏@CorkOnTheNFL

    Report just in on Channel 2 News about shooting in parking lot at Raiders-Cardinals game in Glendale, Ariz. Life-threatening injuries.

  103. Marks hair Says:

    Yeah! Carson wont toss up anymore stupid passes! Derp! Derp derp derp.

  104. realtruraider Says:

    DeMarcus Davis‏@DeMarcusRFNET

    @CorkOnTheNFL Someone was shot in the face with a shotgun.

    ———————————————————

  105. realtruraider Says:

    Don’t bet on it Marley, this schit will last until the next practice game, lol

  106. aig-raiders Says:

    It’s open carry in AZ so I’m not surprised someone got shot there. Hopefully it wasnt a Bay Area Raider fan travelling there and not realizing that lots of people carry a gun there and in their cars.

  107. Thec Says:

    DeMarcus Davis‏@DeMarcusRFNET

    @CorkOnTheNFL Someone was shot in the face with a shotgun.

    +++++++++

    WTF????

  108. DJ Johnny Says:

    Arizona had looked horrible coming into this game but the Raiders make em look like world beaters tonight.

    It’s just preseason but I see NOTHING to give me any smeblance of optimism.

    You usually want a little somehting to hang your hat on.

    This team looks horrible.

  109. UCLA Raiders Says:

    Mike Goodson is now damaged goods for sure. He will not recover mentally from his debacle.
    Did you guys see his body language after first fumble. Other players kept holding him nd talking to him saying ok snap out of the funk. And sure enough he fumbles nd gets injured. Why did the coaches not see that no get him out before further damage to team and himself??????
    Taiwan and his bad hami and his horrible blocking and east west running style ain’t the cure folks.
    Now we gotta pick up another team’s trash for our important #2 RB position. And for sure they won’t have time to pick up offense until mid season.

    Other than that Leinert out played Palmer who keeps throwing into double coverage. His INTs are very costly and get the game outa hand fast and then it’s over since we can’t make up a huge gap. Come on Palmer you’re supposed to be an A player not a C player.

  110. RaiderDuck Says:

    Vic Tafur
    Practice is important, but McKenzie wants to see plays made in games and Van Dyke’s preseason has gone off cliff first two preseason games

    ==============================================

    DVD may be on his way out.

  111. Raidernationdave Says:

    RMac could always trade TP for a couple of tats & his Letterman’s jacket.

  112. McFaddens_Sneakers Says:

    Lets trade DVD for a BlueRay player.

  113. Thec Says:

    DA on the podium right now.

    http://player.streamtheworld.com/liveplayer.php?callsign=CMNRAIDERS

  114. DJ Johnny Says:

    It’s cool. I’ve been a Raider fan for so long i’m used to having blind hope without any visible reason for it.

    All good.

  115. aig-raiders Says:

    CP3 – not playing like an elite QB now. Leinart has looked a whole lot more in rythm out there and prob cuz he knows the offense.

    DVD – Can we put that myth to rest pls. Dude couldnt even keep the starting CB position in Miami and lots of Raider fans think he will be good in the nfl. Dude is junk.

    Ford – too fragile.

    DHB – Well. Nothing has changed. Still can’t catch in critical situation.

    Streater – KEEEPPEERRRRRRR. Kid is so smooth. He’s a star in the making. Bigger than DMoore and faster than DMoore. But just as sure handed and smooth. Imagine having both of those guys on the field at the same time.

  116. Raidernationdave Says:

    Dude needs a hug from Dr. Phil.

    ++++++++++++++

    UCLA Raiders Says:
    August 17th, 2012 at 10:40 pm

    Mike Goodson…..

  117. Kirk Says:

    Miller is our best back up running back.

  118. UCLA Raiders Says:

    DJ Johnny Says:
    August 17th, 2012 at 10:26 pm
    DICK Van Dyke the actor would do better than DVD. And he’s like 87 yrs. old.
    _______________

    Lol. Word. You made me laugh hard! And you are right too. All that speed and no instincts. How sad.

  119. Oldtown Says:

    I am sickened by this game- F_O_C_U_S!!!!

    Cut DVD. Make Streater 1st string.

  120. Kirk Says:

    I have a feeling some of Al’s scholarship guys are going to be cut.

  121. Marks hair Says:

    Way to go nation..

  122. aig-raiders Says:

    Raidernationdave Says:
    August 17th, 2012 at 10:43 pm

    Dude needs a hug from Dr. Phil.
    ————
    no kiddin on Mike Goodson. Feel bad for him. He had fumblitis in Carolina and nothing has changed in Oak.

  123. Oldtown Says:

    Forgot- Cut Goodson.

  124. Thec Says:

    DHB has a shoulder, DMO wont make the opener..JFORD Sprsined foot….Wow

  125. aig-raiders Says:

    Chekwa >>>>>> DVD

  126. Oldtown Says:

    Could Lechler be on the bubble with the way our back up is kicking? Stinkin’ impressive.

  127. RaiderDuck Says:

    One sure way to tell if we’re off the Goodson love train: If Reggie ups and signs Ryan Grant over the weekend.

  128. 505raiders Says:

    our defense is looks like theyre getting ready to play an nfl season looking better and sharper than the last game

    on the other side the offense needs to find an identity
    injuries are killing the chemistry need some durabilty

    when was the last time ford caught a damn pass holy sh!t

  129. Marks hair Says:

    Streater is 1st string because theres nobody else left… should have kept murf & cambell

  130. Thec Says:

    Lino sliced finger, not sure if its broken.

  131. Thec Says:

    when was the last time ford caught a damn pass holy sh!t

    +++++++

    He caught 2 today…

  132. DJ Johnny Says:

    DHB has a shoulder injury….and still can’t catch.

    It’ll be Criner and Streator starting against SD.

  133. realtruraider Says:

    DJ Johnny Says:
    August 17th, 2012 at 10:39 pm
    Arizona had looked horrible coming into this game but the Raiders make em look like world beaters tonight.

    It’s just preseason but I see NOTHING to give me any smeblance of optimism.

    You usually want a little somehting to hang your hat on.

    This team looks horrible.

    ————————————————————

    I wouldn’t say we made them look like “world beaters” Our fist team D was fkin them up, but turnovers and schity special teams helped them score most of there points. This Offense has to get there fkin schit together though

  134. RaiderDuck Says:

    Marks Hair Says:
    August 17th, 2012 at 10:46 pm
    Streater is 1st string because theres nobody else left… should have kept murf & cambell

    =============================================

    Nah. I’ll roll with DHB and DMoore starting, with Streater and Criner backing them up.

  135. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    Can’t wait to see this game in it’s entirety.

    From what I did see, the defense looked OK, but that was against Kevin Knob. Raids were doing a nice job pressuring him though. Didn’t like the way Williams was running on us early. The first AZ TD run and the 2 runs before that looked way too easy. Keep waiting to see Slo actually plug a hole and tackle a RB. Might happen eventually. Sometime before JFB’s Slo-mania wears off please.

    Offensively, DMAC is a monster. Best all-purpose RB in the NFL.

    TIM almost opened the game with his specialty. Made a few nice tosses after that. Didn’t get to see his pick, but from the sound of it, a careless overthrow to Goodson. If TIM doesn’t practice ball security, this team is going nowhere fast. This remains, by far, the biggest concern on offense.

    As far as Knapp goes, don’t like the Houston offense style of play or the ZBS. Will reserve judgement on his play calling until I see the entire game, but I’m not enthusiastic about using TIM on roll outs.

    Thought DA should have gone for it, instead of taking the FG for the first Raider points of 2012. Janikowski doesn’t need practice kicking 18 yard FG’s (although I must admit we’ve seen some bad snaps on the FG attempts). Also thought he could have challenged whether DMAC got 2 down in bounds. No sense in taking your challenges to the locker room.

  136. realtruraider Says:

    And Special Teams*

  137. McFaddens_Sneakers Says:

    This game wasnt what i expected but the 1st D look good. Exept for that first drive

  138. Oldtown Says:

    Wasn’t happy with our play calling inside the 20 either…

  139. Try Some Reality Says:

    For the doom and gloomers. Palmer could and should have had 2 TDs. DHB drop and Streater drop, though he was interfered with. Different game if those are caught. Suddenly many of you are talking SuperBowl. lol. Gotta love some fans. So dam hot and cold.

  140. DJ Johnny Says:

    134.RaiderDuck Says:
    August 17th, 2012 at 10:47 pm
    Marks Hair Says:
    August 17th, 2012 at 10:46 pm
    Streater is 1st string because theres nobody else left… should have kept murf & cambell

    =============================================

    Nah. I’ll roll with DHB and DMoore starting, with Streater and Criner backing them up.

    That’d be nice, but they are both inujured. It’s Criner and Streator week 1.

    We’re in trouble.

  141. Thec Says:

    Slo actually plug a hole and tackle a RB. Might happen eventually. Sometime before JFB’s Slo-mania wears off please.

    ++++++++==

    McCheese was slow as usual when it came to diagnosing plays…

  142. Marks hair Says:

    Nothing worse than watching the kool aid gang circle jerk the blog for weeks, only to see us play these shlt games..

  143. mcfadden20. Says:

    Our 2nd and 3rd stringers suck lol , they got abused on the ground , idk how much of that had to do with not having full week off between games but they got abused, and DVD got abused as usual lol

  144. Marks hair Says:

    140… bingo

  145. Raidernationdave Says:

    Night Nation…

    Gotta get up at 3:30 – take my boy to the airport

  146. DJ Johnny Says:

    I never thought Super Bowl with this team but what from what i’ve seen so far and the injuries….it’s not looking good at all.

  147. realtruraider Says:

    LOL, McClain was all over the place man, did you guys not watch the game? Maybe you need to watch the replay tomorrow and eat some crow after words

  148. Oldtown Says:

    You know it’s bad when your 14 year old walks in and says: “Same old Raiders dad.” Stink. Hope they’re wrong. Time is gonna tell.

  149. DJ Johnny Says:

    Thank God we have that new Dr. Al Miller. He’s really helped keep the injuries to a minimum.

  150. mcfadden20. Says:

    We will be good this year

  151. Oldtown Says:

    Dear Raiders: Throw us a bone.

  152. mcfadden20. Says:

    We don’t really need ford , we got the beast, his name is Streater ,

  153. Thec Says:

    We got stuff to fix.

    Still too early to throw in the towel…. Its presea…

    Injuries are the biggest concern.

    You guys enjoy the night.

    1 NATION

  154. Oldtown Says:

    Right on Mcfadden 20

  155. mcfadden20. Says:

    Keep ford away from Offense, use him full time kick return and punt return lol

  156. realtruraider Says:

    We do need a fkin #2 back that can stay healthy and hold on to the damn ball. We also need a new special teams coach, bring back Bones. And make Palmer run wind sprints everytime he throws a pick or somethin

  157. mcfadden20. Says:

    I hope Moore is back , We’ll be alright with DHB, Dwow and Streater and mix in some J Criner

  158. Marks hair Says:

    Sad… another week/season of ppl shltting on my team..

  159. mcfadden20. Says:

    realtruraider Says:
    August 17th, 2012 at 10:58 pm

    We do need a fkin #2 back that can stay healthy and hold on to the damn ball. We also need a new special teams coach, bring back Bones. And make Palmer run wind sprints everytime he throws a pick or somethin

    —-

    Our special teams would really going to cost us some games this year

  160. mcfadden20. Says:

    Marks hair Says:
    August 17th, 2012 at 10:59 pm

    Sad… another week/season of ppl shltting on my team..

    —-

    Why are u so sad dude, wait for the real games to start first before making big deals

  161. Marks hair Says:

    Too late for benson . theres j. Addi or grant.. cuts too…

  162. xraided Says:

    Realtruraider Says:
    August 17th, 2012 at 10:58 pm
    We do need a fkin #2 back that can stay healthy and hold on to the damn ball. We also need a new special teams coach, bring back Bones. And make Palmer run wind sprints everytime he throws a pick or somethin

    ______________

    he’s with the Rams now.. sad to say.

  163. JONTRAIN Says:

    I’m actually encouraged by what I saw tonight. Guys are constantly in position to make plays, especially on D. Offensively, its the classic case of 10 guys executing a play perfectly but 1 guy messing it up. Esp. on the two dropped TD passes and the INT by Palmer.

    I know it’s hard to see, but our team is building a very strong foundation for success.

    Knapp has his work cut out for him. Ive been very skeptical of him since we hired him (the one move by Reg that made me raise an eyebrow)

  164. mcfadden20. Says:

    We’ll be fine , Palmer needs to start hitting people on money, missed a wide open TD by Mcfadden, He’s going to be a beast , even if Knapp sucks , he got Mcfadden to save his ass as long as he stays healthy

  165. Try Some Reality Says:

    Marks Hair Says:
    August 17th, 2012 at 10:59 pm
    Sad… another week/season of ppl shltting on my team..

    =================

    Too bad you let them get away with it. My response is always “you do realize it’s preseason, right?” or “you came to that conclusion based on a preseason game, eh?”. Always sends them off with tail between their legs. Let’s get real here. Preseason doesn’t mean squat. Remember the Art Shell year?

  166. Marks hair Says:

    If you cant see it yet, good for you.. enjoy . But im just annoyed that our draft pick wont be high or low…

  167. 505raiders Says:

    ill roll the dice wit moore#1 streater#2 dhb#3 criner#4 and #5 whoever doesnt drop the ball when it hits thier hands (rules out ford so far man dudes fell off)

  168. realtruraider Says:

    Yeah we just have to clean up a few things, but man it looked ugly for a minute out there, I have ben tellin people to calm the fk down all week about the 1st practice game. Alot of chicken littles in here, but I found myself thinkin the sky is fallin for a minute.

  169. mcfadden20. Says:

    Try Some Reality Says:
    August 17th, 2012 at 11:03 pm

    Marks Hair Says:
    August 17th, 2012 at 10:59 pm
    Sad… another week/season of ppl shltting on my team..

    =================

    Too bad you let them get away with it. My response is always “you do realize it’s preseason, right?” or “you came to that conclusion based on a preseason game, eh?”. Always sends them off with tail between their legs. Let’s get real here. Preseason doesn’t mean squat. Remember the Art Shell year?

    True, i rather have my team suck really bad and lose all the games in the pre-season , so they can work on a lot of stuff

  170. mcfadden20. Says:

    realtruraider Says:
    August 17th, 2012 at 11:05 pm

    Yeah we just have to clean up a few things, but man it looked ugly for a minute out there, I have ben tellin people to calm the fk down all week about the 1st practice game. Alot of chicken littles in here, but I found myself thinkin the sky is fallin for a minute.

    —–

    Our D looks solid , except for that 1 drive

  171. mcfadden20. Says:

    Most of our team played like they were playing only after 3 days rest , which is true lol

  172. mcfadden20. Says:

    Are we ever going to try going on 4th down for once?

  173. DJ Johnny Says:

    There is no tangible evidence whatsoever that this New Era is any better than the previous regime…so far or that Reggie is any better than our previous GM.

    -Goodson. Reggie KNEW he was a fumble machine when he traded for him and decided to forego getting Benson.

    -DA. He’s done nothing VISIBLE to show that he is any better than Hue Jackson…NOTHING. Penalties are down..whoopdee freaking doo.

    It could all change and things get better…i’m not saying it can’t, but yeah “it’s only preseason” and all that but right now…I see no visible evidence we are any better off than we were before the saviours came.

  174. Marks hair Says:

    I think streater & the improved tackling are the only bright spots..

  175. Dhidee99 Says:

    DJ Johnny Says:
    August 17th, 2012 at 11:10 pm
    There is no tangible evidence whatsoever that this New Era is any better than the previous regime…so far or that Reggie is any better than our previous GM.

    -Goodson. Reggie KNEW he was a fumble machine when he traded for him and decided to forego getting Benson.

    -DA. He’s done nothing VISIBLE to show that he is any better than Hue Jackson…NOTHING. Penalties are down..whoopdee freaking doo.

    It could all change and things get better…i’m not saying it can’t, but yeah “it’s only preseason” and all that but right now…I see no visible evidence we are any better off than we were before the saviours came.
    ————————————————
    I agree 100%

  176. Try Some Reality Says:

    There is no tangible evidence whatsoever that this New Era is any better than the previous regime…so far or that Reggie is any better than our previous GM.

    =================

    You won’t get the evidence you’re looking for in the preseason, my friend.

  177. realtruraider Says:

    I love what I see from the Defense, 1st team D played solid even though they were put in bad situations from both the Offense and Special Teams. The turnovers and special teams play is what got me heated, a fkin preseason game got my blood boiling

  178. Dhidee99 Says:

    I love that New Punter Cut Shane Save Money!!!!!

  179. Dhidee99 Says:

    Try Some Reality Says:
    August 17th, 2012 at 11:12 pm
    There is no tangible evidence whatsoever that this New Era is any better than the previous regime…so far or that Reggie is any better than our previous GM.

    =================

    You won’t get the evidence you’re looking for in the preseason, my friend.
    —————————————–
    I agree with this too lol

  180. Marks hair Says:

    Same deal. We are the Dmacs…. if he has an mvp yr, we make the playoffs. If he gets hurt. Beeeeww..

  181. DJ Johnny Says:

    Of course it’s only preseason, i’m just saying RIGHT NOW..where we are and what we’ve seen…it’s not better.

    We have no history to draw from to say DA will be a good HC. Just a good feeling about him I guess.

    Reggie? Like I said… RIGHT NOW…we’ve seen nothing.

    We all hope it’ll come around when it really counts, but like a poster said above…throw us a bone would ya.

  182. Kirk Says:

    mcfadden20. Says:
    August 17th, 2012 at 11:07 pm
    Most of our team played like they were playing only after 3 days rest , which is true lol
    ……………………………………..

    Bingo.

  183. Kirk Says:

    Positives…..

    D looks better and we have fewer penalties.

  184. Dhidee99 Says:

    I’m ready too get some bolts

  185. Try Some Reality Says:

    -DA. He’s done nothing VISIBLE to show that he is any better than Hue Jackson…NOTHING. Penalties are down..whoopdee freaking doo.

    ====================

    Whoa there. That’s actually a HUGE feat. Remember, we’re on the heals of a record breaking season for penalties. To go from penalties in the teens to what you saw today is incredible. This will put us in better position to win, no doubt.

    You don’t think the Defense looks 10 times better?

    I’d say DA has delievered on what we expected him to improve. But again, it’s only preseason. Let’s see if it translates to the regular season.

    Now, the offense…not gonna lie. Not liking what I see from Knapp but I will reserve judgement until the season starts. The production was there, we just need to limit mistakes and improve red zone O.

  186. Kirk Says:

    Cut Lechler and Condo.

  187. redshirt Says:

    arizona’s 3rd stringer looked better than palmer

  188. DJ Johnny Says:

    Shouldn’t we be getting SOME evidence?

    What makes everyone so confident we are suddenly gonna turn it around when it counts? I’m hopeful it will, but what EVIDENCE do we have that it will?

  189. wasbanned Says:

    Didn’t get to see the game… wife’s birthday and we are at a bed & breakfast. At least the pool is open 24hrs.

    So how was it really? Someone give me a rational, thought out assessment.

  190. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    all the idiots coming out kissing reggies failed picks and knapps recycled offense…please…ive seen high school teams with more athletes…

  191. Kirk Says:

    I hope we keep Miller instead of Goodson.

  192. Dhidee99 Says:

    Yeah cut Lechler Condo and Seymore!!!!

  193. mcfadden20. Says:

    O looked better too, need better execution though, remember this is not a ole play books and scheme, every one is learning new scheme and new plays

  194. NoLuv4Hoes Says:

    Less penalties is a good sign but remember these are replacement refs. No dmac no way we make the playoffs. Wiz is a better center.

  195. Dhidee99 Says:

    oh cut Goodson too

  196. mcfadden20. Says:

    DJ Johnny Says:
    August 17th, 2012 at 11:18 pm

    Shouldn’t we be getting SOME evidence?

    What makes everyone so confident we are suddenly gonna turn it around when it counts? I’m hopeful it will, but what EVIDENCE do we have that it will?

    —–

    Only thing i’m worried about is our special teams , even our long snapper is bad… everything else is going to be alright, and we will see a real D for once lol

  197. Dhidee99 Says:

    Cut Wang why was he even picked up?

  198. Kirk Says:

    wasbanned Says:
    August 17th, 2012 at 11:19 pm
    Didn’t get to see the game… wife’s birthday and we are at a bed & breakfast. At least the pool is open 24hrs.

    So how was it really? Someone give me a rational, thought out assessment.

    ……………………………………

    Good D, our 1st defensive line was dominant.

    O without McFadden is nothing. Streater looked good. Miller looked good. Palmer looked ok except for interception.

    I think we are going to be ok, once Reggie gets rid of Al’s scholarship guys.

  199. redshirt Says:

    fewer penalties are “whoopdee freekin doo”?? are you seriously that ignorant?

    we would’ve won at least 2 more games last season had it not been for the fact that we led the history of the nfl in penalties

  200. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    cut criner, burris, bergstrom, stupar, spencer, bilukidi… fire da, tarver, and reggie mck

  201. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    fewer penalties are whoopdee in sdam sandlers voice, with this offense it wont matter

  202. DJ Johnny Says:

    I drink the kool aid as much or more than anyone else but we digressed from that game mon night.

    It concerns me that we got worse from game 1 to game 2. Shouldn’t we expect that a team heading in the right direction would improve? If only slightly?

    I don’t care about the final score, but we got worse.

  203. Try Some Reality Says:

    Kirk Says:
    August 17th, 2012 at 11:22 pm
    wasbanned Says:
    August 17th, 2012 at 11:19 pm
    Didn’t get to see the game… wife’s birthday and we are at a bed & breakfast. At least the pool is open 24hrs.

    So how was it really? Someone give me a rational, thought out assessment.

    ……………………………………

    Good D, our 1st defensive line was dominant.

    O without McFadden is nothing. Streater looked good. Miller looked good. Palmer looked ok except for interception.

    I think we are going to be ok, once Reggie gets rid of Al’s scholarship guys.

    ============================================

    At halftime, we outgained zona 184 yards to 53 and 21 minutes time of possession to 8.

    3 things that prevented this from being reflected in the score…

    1) Turnovers (INT & fumble)
    2) Failed red zone opportunities
    3) Blocked kick returned by zone for TD (wouldn’t have happened in real game as King appeared to hold onto the ball for too long)

    1st team D was very good, including recording a safety. 1st team O moved the chains but made big mistakes.

  204. wasbanned Says:

    Seems from what I’ve read so far and reading comments that the offense is still a work in progress.

    However, camp is HARD WORK. Add to it 2 games in 5 days and it has to be taking a toll on these guys.

    Hope they get it together for the season opener.

    Remember this… the Giants were on the verge of not making the playoffs and went on a run to win it all.

    It make take several games for this offense to gel.

  205. DJ Johnny Says:

    Kirk Says:
    August 17th, 2012 at 11:22 pm
    wasbanned Says:
    August 17th, 2012 at 11:19 pm
    Didn’t get to see the game… wife’s birthday and we are at a bed & breakfast. At least the pool is open 24hrs.

    So how was it really? Someone give me a rational, thought out assessment.

    No reponse will sound “rational” unless it includes the obligatory “it’s only preseason” and “we’ll be fine” statements in such a response.

    Ignore what you see…we’ll be fine.

  206. KoolKell Says:

    Streater had 7 receptions for a mere 43yds

  207. Kirk Says:

    Take out Goodson’s fumbles and it’s a different game.

    I thought Miller looked better.

  208. mcfadden20. Says:

    Offense is new to everybody except Lienart , which is why he looked smooth out there, Our O won’t get in high gear until 3rd or 4th game of regular season , good thing our D will probably stop 1 99 yard D once this year lol

  209. realtruraider Says:

    Only thing i’m worried about is our special teams , even our long snapper is bad… everything else is going to be alright, and we will see a real D for once lol

    ——————————————————

    Yeah, WTF is going on with Condo? Every snap is fkin high, I started holding my breath when he would snap the ball, lol. He was/is the best longsnapper in the league. I want to blame coaching on the special teams units, I mean they all look bad, but how could a pro bowl snapper all of a sudden suck at it? IDK

  210. mcfadden20. Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    August 17th, 2012 at 11:31 pm

    Streater had 7 receptions for a mere 43yds

    —-

    Half of them turned into 1st downs right?

  211. mcfadden20. Says:

    realtruraider Says:
    August 17th, 2012 at 11:33 pm

    Only thing i’m worried about is our special teams , even our long snapper is bad… everything else is going to be alright, and we will see a real D for once lol

    ——————————————————

    Yeah, WTF is going on with Condo? Every snap is fkin high, I started holding my breath when he would snap the ball, lol. He was/is the best longsnapper in the league. I want to blame coaching on the special teams units, I mean they all look bad, but how could a pro bowl snapper all of a sudden suck at it? IDK

    Maybe he doesn’t want the team to cut Lechler and is just snapping high on purpose lol

  212. blackandsilverside Says:

    The same confused, chaotic, and nasty mess we saw last week: just where we left off last season.

    Same as I predicted, Jack-Azz Jacoby injured again, with CP throwing another bone-headed INT.

    Of course Leinart is injured, and Goodson the fumbler prevailed.

    C’mon Reggie, you are starting to look real stupid, along with Mark (who is as dingy as AD in his latter years). Allen and Greg Knapp look like Abbott and Costello, while DMAC didn’t do much.

    I always said we would rue the day we let Michael Bush go. As I said before, we should package Moore, Ford, Seymour and Goodson and try to get either a decent CB or RB.

    This won’t be fixed, and what you see tonight, you’ll see on opening day.

    Finally, Carson Palmer, blew it again tonight; he appears to be as mediocre as I have been saying he is.

    Overall, we are in a deep hole here.

  213. blackandsilverside Says:

    Before tuning into Raider v. AZ I watched the first half of Ravens v. Lions. It was a good game. Both teams put together cogent, productive drives. Both defenses made great plays.

    I also watched the 4th quarter with the rookies and 2nd and 3rd stringers; both sides put excellent drives together on O, and stopped the other side with excellent D.

    Why can’t we do anything right?? Why do we look like total amateurs playing the Keystone Cops out there?

    It’s the curse of AD. Just as he could not stand anyone related to the Raiders to shine above him, he’s asserting dead-hand control from the grave to ensure we fail.

  214. DJ Johnny Says:

    Is Goodson fumbline 3 out of 8 carries a surprise? It shouldn’t be. Reggie knew full well what all the reports were about him. He can’t say “Wow. I didn’t see THAT coming”.

    Did he think Goodson was all of a sudden gonna change who he is after a stern talking to from DA? Or becuz he put on a silver helmet?

    And DHB? Still dropping TD passes I see. Do we need more patience with him?

    Bad special teams. I’m sure that will magically fix it itself “when it really counts”.

    In fact how can we doubt that the whole team will all of a sudden not fumble, not drop passes, block better and make less mistakes when the heat is turned up when the team plays for real.

  215. DJ Johnny Says:

    It’s the curse of AD. Just as he could not stand anyone related to the Raiders to shine above him, he’s asserting dead-hand control from the grave to ensure we fail.


    I know u don’t really mean that…but the thought of Al Davis somehow in some dark pressbox in the afterlife still pulling the strings of his former franchise in a sadistic and menacing manner is quite humorous.

  216. HeroRaider Says:

    Lets sign Chad Ochocinko we can get a good steal on him. Leinart should be alright to heal for a back-up position. Besides Palmer needs all the reps he can get until he can show some kind of consistency running this offense. DMAC is a Beast so is Killer Kelly on Def. We should see what Huff can do playing corner. Streater can come in as the Second rec. if Moore is not back in time but definitely can be the third if we dont sign anyone to the team.Criner as back-up. Do we have the talent? yes, Depth? No. Hopefully Taiwan Jones gets healthy can’t see goodson being behind DMAC. Goodson probably a better third down specialist.

  217. sirblitzalot Says:

    third down fumble-ist!

  218. sirblitzalot Says:

    i just watched a replay of M. Bush running it in from 8 yards out. Used is Marcus Allen type nimble feet to tip toe thru the defense! I bet he would have got it in the end zone. BTY Streater and DHB both dropped TD’s, so it shouldn’t have come down to DMAC!

  219. sirblitzalot Says:

    ie. Don’t Blame Palmer!

  220. sirblitzalot Says:

    This blog is a psuedo-pole of the fans outlook for the Raiders 2012-13 season. Based on the consensus of all you bloggers, the Raiders will not when any games out of our division and we will be stretching it to say they win 3 games within their division. Oh well, maybe next year? After-all the preseason games are the best predictor of the regular season? Right? Any statisticians out there that can back this premise up?

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