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Preseason stats don’t faze Palmer

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Tuesday, August 21st, 2012 at 5:11 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Stolen from Wednesday’s paper, plus notes . . .

Carson Palmer isn’t fond of the statistics he’s compiled through two preseason games, but he’s not losing sleep over it.

In some of the more reactionary parts of Raider Nation who are fond of social media, Palmer is already an “issue.’’

He’s throwing interceptions. Missing open receivers. Making bad decisions.

Critics have all the proof they need by looking at the bottom line _ Palmer is 16-for-30 for 240 yards, a 53.3 completion percentage with no touchdown passes and two interceptions for a passer rating of 38.2

For those who believe that preseason football is a precursor to regular season performance, the numbers are almost too JaMarcus-like to contemplate.

Palmer, while not defending his interceptions and admitting to some errors within the offense, also recognizes it’s an entirely different game.

For instance, Palmer may go to a specific receiver simply to give him some work. Or attempt to force one into coverage just to see if it’s possible. Risk-reward doesn’t apply, because in the grand scheme, there is no risk. Only a potential reward and information to be gleaned regardless of the end result.

“That’s what (preseason) is for, really, unless you’re a young guy that hasn’t played and just wants to get acclimated to the speed of the game,’’ Palmer said. “I’ve been around long enougn and that’s not something I’m trying to do.

“There are things we’ll work on and plays we’ll put in we normally wouldn’t put in, or if we want to see if this guy can run by that guy. There are a ton of situations that come up where you do things you wouldn’t do in a regular season game.’’

Both of Palmer’s interceptions were on deep throws _ an overthrow to Jacoby Ford against Dallas when he got a single-safety look that dictates taking a shot downfield, and another high-and-away shot to Richard Gordon that Arizona’s Kerry Rhodes picked off and returned 60 yards.

Although the Raiders went into a regular-season mode and actually began doing some game-planning for Saturday’s game against the Detroit Lions, Palmer’s approach will still be more of a fact-finding mission than a quest for efficiency and a high passer rating.

Ford is injured, Denarius Moore remains out with a hamstring strain and Darrius Heyward-Bey was back at practice but has a shoulder injury. That puts undrafted rookie Rod Streater into the starting lineup and means lots of time for rookie fifth-round draft pick Juron Criner.

“Part of it is, let’s see how they handle being starters, being in with the ones,’’ Palmer said. “I know there’s going to be a lot on a handful of guys’ plates, but it’s a good chance to see how they react to the situation.’’

Raiders coach Dennis Allen has brushed aside any talk of Palmer’s preseason struggles.

“I don’t have any reservations or any doubts at all about Carson Palmer,’’ Allen said.

Palmer looks at the 10 series he has played in two games and sees three Sebastian Janikowski field goals, a lot of mistakes and an equal amount of potential.

“It’s encouraging to know we’ve made a bunch of mistakes, and we’ve still moved the ball,’’ Palmer said. “We’ve been nowhere near where we can be when we’re all clicking and on the same page. It’s just a matter of time. We just need to keep working, keep our heads down and keep playing.’’

NOTES

– Center Stefen Wisniewski missed practice with a calf strain, making it more likely Alex Parsons will get the start against Detroit. Considering the amount of time Wisniewski missed this offseason, Parsons could soon be in line to start the regular-season opener.

– Wide receiver Jacoby Ford (foot), wide receiver Denarius Moore (hamstring, running back Rashawn Jackson (hip), linebacker Aaron Curry (knees), tackle Ed Wang (shoulder) and tackle Zach Hurd (head) , defensive tackle Jamie Cumbie (foot) and defensive tackle Richard Seymour (veteran’s day off) also did not practice.

– Safety Michael Huff returned the practice after witnessing the birth of his daughter, 6-pound, 2 ounce Madeline Rae Huff. Also back were Matt Leinart (lacerated right index finger) and wide receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey (shoulder).

– Allen started the Raiders on a regular-season schedule, which included closing practice to the media. Ordinarily, the Raiders didn’t close practices until the team returned to the facility in Alameda.

The Raiders practice Wednesday and have their last practice in Napa on Thursday.

– Raiders rookie linebacker Korey Bosworth was 1 when his uncle, Seattle linebacker Brian Bosworth, was flattened by Bo Jackson on a 2-yard run at the Kingdome on Nov. 30, 1987.

“He actually called me up and told me someone might eventually start asking about that,” Korey Bosworth said. “He said, just be nice when that question comes up.”

So how does Korey Bosworth look at the play now that he’s a Raider?

“If I had to say now, I’d say it was a good play by Bo Jackson,” Bosworth said. “But being family and everything, it was just a bad angle, you know?”

Bosworth was laughing as he said it.

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620 Responses to “Preseason stats don’t faze Palmer”

  1. Marks hair Says:

    Beeeww

  2. TxRaider210 Says:

    YEAAAAUUHH

  3. Seymour Bush Says:

    Has Mitt Romney released his tax returns yet? What could he be hiding?

  4. RaiderDuck Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    August 21st, 2012 at 5:17 pm
    Has Mitt Romney released his tax returns yet? What could he be hiding?

    ===========================================

    His magic underwear?

  5. Rezinator Says:

    What’s up Raider Nation! First time posting

  6. SaintKaufman Says:

    Some of us aren’t worried at all either Carson.

    Go do your thing big dog!!

    Go Raiders!!!

  7. SaintKaufman Says:

    Rezinator,
    Cool name!

  8. RaiderDuck Says:

    Rezinator Says:
    August 21st, 2012 at 5:19 pm
    What’s up Raider Nation! First time posting

    =======================================

    Welcome! If you need a guide, let us know.

  9. Marks hair Says:

    He csn do it. Just has to play smart.

  10. Raider O Says:

    Palmer, while not defending his interceptions and admitting to some errors within the offense, also recognizes it’s an entirely different game.

    For instance, Palmer may go to a specific receiver simply to give him some work. Or attempt to force one into coverage just to see if it’s possible. Risk-reward doesn’t apply, because in the grand scheme, there is no risk. Only a potential reward and information to be gleaned regardless of the end result.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    The guy threw 36 INTs in 26 games. It’s not just a preseason issues.

  11. Marks hair Says:

    Hope we get carter. If he’s healthy.

  12. Rezinator Says:

    Thanks Kaufman, it’s a nickname that stuck.

    Been on the site nearly 2 years now, figured it was time to contribute positive vibrations! Too haters…

  13. Rezinator Says:

    *many

  14. Raider O Says:

    You are killing Saint. KILLING ME! lol

  15. Seymour Bush Says:

    RaiderDuck Says:
    August 21st, 2012 at 5:17 pm

    Seymour Bush Says:
    August 21st, 2012 at 5:17 pm
    Has Mitt Romney released his tax returns yet? What could he be hiding?

    ===========================================

    His magic underwear?
    ===================================

    hehehehehe

  16. SaintKaufman Says:

    Agreed Rez. Welcome.

    O,
    dude, I know you’re not yourself right now but the broken record thing is getting a little questionable. know what I’m sayin’?

  17. StraightRaider Says:

    Rezinator,

    Welcome aboard the “Silver Lining” all things Raider!

  18. SaintKaufman Says:

    btw, I’ve been sober for over 3 months now myself.

    not 1 felony since! (ok, none that can be proven)

  19. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Rezinator, are you Trent Reznor from Nine Inch Nails?

  20. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Sober for 3 months? That must be terrible for you.

  21. purvisman Says:

    In some of the more reactionary parts of Raider Nation who are fond of social media, Palmer is already an “issue.’’////////////////////That’s funny

  22. purvisman Says:

    not 1 felony since! (ok, none that can be proven)/////////////////////Doesn’t count, then.

  23. Raider O Says:

    O,
    dude, I know you’re not yourself right now but the broken record thing is getting a little questionable. know what I’m sayin’?
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$
    LOL
    Are you saying I’m acting like KK?
    OMG! How dare you sir?

  24. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Palmer being an issue is hilarious! He may have some INT problems, but some people are acting like we have had amazing QB play for the past 8 years. Palmer is better than any QB since Gannon.

  25. SaintKaufman Says:

    That’s what I’m saying Purv!

    Klas, it’s been not awesome.

    O,
    Palmer only had 4int’s in ‘08! ;)

  26. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Palmer is still better than Jay Schroeder.

  27. raider till i die Says:

    Not. Worried out of my pants let the season start and let’s see eat Carson does

  28. Stout Ale Raider Says:

    I wish CP3 would have told us what he said to Knapp when he got in his face.

    Palmer needs to be the OC.

  29. brkesq26 Says:

    I personally am not panicking over Palmer’s preseason stats. Its such a small sample size, to extrapolate that out over the course of a season is ridiculous. If the dropped passes by Ford, Criner and DHB are caught, those alone would take his completion percentage of 60%. A dropped TD by DHB . . . Its just way too early to panic. If its time for Raider fans to panic, they should be panicking in Denver and San Diego too:

    Rivers – 1 TD, 3 INT’s

    Manning – O TD’s, 3 INT’s

  30. Seymour Bush Says:

    #1 active player with most int’s thrown: Peyton Manning. #2 Drew Brees. I would take both those players.

  31. Raider O Says:

    O,
    Palmer only had 4int’s in ‘08!
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$
    Really? How many games did he play, 3? lol

  32. raiderinparadise Says:

    PALMER > GRADKOWSKI, RUSSELL, WALTER, CULPEPPER, BROOKS, MCOWN, EDWARDS, BOLLER, COLLINS, CAMPBELL … TERRIBLE

  33. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Rivers – 1 TD, 3 INT’s

    Manning – O TD’s, 3 INT’s
    ——-
    THAT IS WHAT KLAS HAS BEEN SAYING!

  34. Stout Ale Raider Says:

    brkesq26 Says:
    August 21st, 2012 at 5:48 pm
    I personally am not panicking over Palmer’s preseason stats. Its such a small sample size, to extrapolate that out over the course of a season is ridiculous. If the dropped passes by Ford, Criner and DHB are caught, those alone would take his completion percentage of 60%. A dropped TD by DHB . . . Its just way too early to panic. If its time for Raider fans to panic, they should be panicking in Denver and San Diego too:

    Rivers – 1 TD, 3 INT’s

    Manning – O TD’s, 3 INT’s
    ————————————————

    Vet QBs push it a little more and do things they wouldnt do in regular season. Palmer shows there is no reason for concern. Now the ZBS, thats cause for concern.

  35. Raider O Says:

    SaintKaufman Says:
    August 21st, 2012 at 5:37 pm
    btw, I’ve been sober for over 3 months now myself.

    not 1 felony since! (ok, none that can be proven)
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    LOL

  36. SaintKaufman Says:

    DAH

  37. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Matt Leinart just might be our 3rd best QB since Gannon. That is the awful.

  38. SaintKaufman Says:

    O,
    We need to have us a little over/under action on Palmer picks this year. What says you??

  39. Raider O Says:

    Raiderinparadise Says:
    August 21st, 2012 at 5:50 pm
    PALMER > GRADKOWSKI, RUSSELL, WALTER, CULPEPPER, BROOKS, MCOWN, EDWARDS, BOLLER, COLLINS, CAMPBELL … TERRIBLE
    $$$$$$$$$$$$

    Yes he is, and he is a solid QB, but does that mean he/we should ignore his issue with INTs?

  40. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Palmer will throw 14 INTS and 24 TDS

  41. Raider O Says:

    SaintMcGiver,

    Excellent idea. Where is Vegas when you need him?

  42. Carl Weathers Says:

    We just need to keep working, keep our heads down and keep playing.’’-Palmer

    Heads down?!? Hmmmm, just cut out the picks already and keep your head up!

  43. CanuckRaider Says:

    Should the Raiders take a look at Merriman too?…Was it a combo of injuries and not being suited to play DE in Buffalo or is he finished?…What think you?

  44. raiderinparadise Says:

    PALMER PULLS THE TRIGGER, yes its awful at times, but it pays off in other games & situations.

    Lets wait & see what he takes and chances week 1 before we all read too much into it.

    Palmer in 2 games against SD last year 717 yards 4 tds 2 int

    He will be fine.

  45. Missus Beeecham Says:

    YO DUDES

    had somthin bangin on the rear door all day, but when i thought i was ready to roll a duece, out comes a blast of wind that knockked holla off her feet and blew the front door right off its hinges. now i gotta hang a sheet over the door to keep the flies out. word.

    WIZZLE MO DIZZLE

  46. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Sometimes you need to rock it like a Swede. When that happens, your going to throw INTS. That’s life.

  47. CanuckRaider Says:

    Not worried about CP at all…New offense…Injuries to Moore, Ford, Myers and Wiz Jr….Pre-season is just that.

  48. SaintKaufman Says:

    Vegas still working that Javon Walker case!

  49. Raider O Says:

    PM: 399 TDs & 198 INTs
    Rivers: 163TDs & 78 INTs
    CP: 167 TDs & 116 INTs

    Let’s not compare.

  50. Carl Weathers Says:

    +/- 18 Palmer INT’s

  51. Missus Beeecham Raw and extraordinaire Says:

    YO

    the noise was rumblin so hard it shook the television right off the dining table. i swear it felt like a 7.2 on the rickter scale. just a blast of air. good theing holla wasn’t lightin up a smoke or we’d be a hundred miles south of the border right about now. mercy

    SHAKE AND BAKE, WORD

  52. da trinity Says:

    Dang missus beeecham, you a grimy broad.

  53. RaiderDuck Says:

    Again, if he’s playing like this vs. San Diego in a few weeks, we can start worrying. For now though, no worries.

  54. Raider O Says:

    S Merriman had a few PB years when he was on roids, he got busted, and he wasnt the same after that.
    Merriman without Roids is no good IMHO.

  55. SaintKaufman Says:

    Let’s say we go with 16 int’s, the button is a push.

    This would be a decent little prize….

    http://www.raiderimage.com/4027110202.html

  56. RaiderDuck Says:

    In other football news, “Live with Regis and Kelly” is rumored to be changing to “Live with Kelly and Michael” as in…Michael Strahan.

  57. purvisman Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 21st, 2012 at 5:43 pm
    Palmer is still better than Jay Schroeder.///////////////////////////Been around a while, have you? And who did we trade for him? Jim Lachey!

  58. CanuckRaider Says:

    That is the million dollar question O…Did the ‘roids make him the beast he was or have injuries and the position switch contributed to the big decline?…Very interesting question.

  59. Rezinator Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says: August 21st, 2012 at 5:38 pm

    Rezinator, are you Trent Reznor from Nine Inch Nails?

    ###############

    Nah I’m not Trent. NIN is a sick band tho, saw them live a
    while back.

  60. Missus Beeecham Says:

    PARTAY HO

    then there was the time i swallowed a butt plug (lost a bet) and wound up in the ER 5 days later. oh, the plugg worked, but you cant get it out from the inside if you know what i mean. why i wouldnt wish that pain on my worst enemy or any of my exes. my friends maybe, but they’d have to be up for that. word.

    WIZZLE WIZZLE MO DRIZZLE

  61. purvisman Says:

    raiderinparadise Says:
    August 21st, 2012 at 5:50 pm
    PALMER > GRADKOWSKI, RUSSELL, WALTER, CULPEPPER, BROOKS, MCOWN, EDWARDS, BOLLER, COLLINS, CAMPBELL … TERRIBLE. Don’t remember Terrible but he fits right in with that group.

  62. Raider O Says:

    CW,

    Interesting!
    Under.

  63. Stout Ale Raider Says:

    Hey Purvisman weren’t you like the very first ever to post here? Way back when this blog started.

  64. Carl Weathers Says:

    Carter yes, if healthy

    Merroid no, injury prOne and ineffective since the juice

  65. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Well, it’s good to be confident.

    Got to at least give that to Carson.

  66. purvisman Says:

    That was KK. Just ask him.

  67. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    mr, i mean raider beaver, i mean raiderduck bruce campbell couldve led the way at goalline but krapp zbs offense suits whiner fans like you…

  68. Raider O Says:

    Saint,
    LOL
    I don’t gamble bro.

  69. chuck Says:

    I agree it is way too early worrying about palmer but I would like him too look a little sharper Saturday.

  70. Carl Weathers Says:

    18 might be high, how about 16.5 +/- INT’s
    I’ll still take the under.

  71. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    this might have been said but mjd for mcfadden seems like a good deal for both teams it wont happen though

  72. purvisman Says:

    I am a veteran member of the Nation, however, with memories you can only hope to have in the future. I hope we all do.

  73. purvisman Says:

    Heck, I’d be OK with 20 picks if he does some serious gunslinging to compliment them.

  74. RaiderDuck Says:

    Stout Ale Raider Says:
    August 21st, 2012 at 6:15 pm
    Hey Purvisman weren’t you like the very first ever to post here? Way back when this blog started.

    ========================================

    This is currently the first non-spam comment, to a season wrap-up article from December 2007:

    Armond Says:
    January 2nd, 2008 at 12:13 am
    a co worker of mine suggest going to a 3-4 and have huff move to corner. get 2 hitters at safety and have a rotating DL. he said that our d is more suited for this because our strength is in our LB’S. he talked about catering to the talent we know will be here and build around them instead trying to get a brand new line, secondary and so on. i thought about it for a while and figured it may be the most logical thing to do. howard, morrison , huff, namdi and burgess would be our core for now. if you could get some b level safeties at worse who can hit then you would have a more physical secondary and put clemons as a rush str olb with thomas on the wks morrison ilb and williams/ thomas or pick/ fa the other ilb. haynesworth may be too expensive so if that doesnt work u pick up the next tier of d-lineman who fit for now. you can always rotate between 3-4 4-3 and a 4 2 5 with huff playing roving cb fs while routt plays as a third cb. washington gets pushed around too easily by big wrs. with the right DC it may work because we have faster athletic lbs than when ryan came here. it also may be a cost effective way to shore up the d and allow the few stars we have on defense to become more potent if we build around them by catering to them. i say attack the damn qb!!!

  75. Raider O Says:

    I thought 18 was good, but 16 is perfect. I like to have fun, but money/ gifts can’t be involved. Only bragging rights. I can’t gamble.

  76. SaintKaufman Says:

    That sucks too, duck. There were some good arguments and some funny ass comments from back in 05 when I first posted. A lot has changed since then in here.

  77. SaintKaufman Says:

    O,
    Ok, so 16 it is. Chances are you’ll get to brag before me, but I’m hoping I don’t get to brag until the playoffs!!

  78. CanuckRaider Says:

    How about an over/under on how many cans of malt liquor Kell drinks tonight…Say 12.5…The tie-breaker will be whether he goes for a naked cigarette run afterwards.

  79. RaiderDuck Says:

    SaintKaufman Says:
    August 21st, 2012 at 6:27 pm
    That sucks too, duck. There were some good arguments and some funny ass comments from back in 05 when I first posted. A lot has changed since then in here.

    ==============================================

    Probably before my time. I think I first started posting to this blog during the Kiffin era. Before that, I got my Raiders fix from Vertgame.com (which I doubt anyone else remembers).

  80. Carl Weathers Says:

    Raider O Says:
    August 21st, 2012 at 6:25 pm
    I thought 18 was good, but 16 is perfect. I like to have fun, but money/ gifts can’t be involved. Only bragging rights. I can’t gamble.

    @@@@@@@@@

    I could see him with right around that mark of 16-20. If he goes under one/game he probably isn’t throwing enough! I just care about W’s though.

  81. Bob Marley Says:

    Carter, if healthy, would be a solid pickup, another pass-rushing specialist to pair with Tollefson and fill Wimbley’s role….could get us 6 to 8 sacks, maybe more and provide speed rushing from RE, not Shaughnessy’s strength.

  82. SaintKaufman Says:

    The dudes I remember from back then are Dell, MR, Marley, Terrapin, maybe antispy, can’t remember if KK was. Usually the posts were under 100 comments.

  83. Raider O Says:

    Saint,

    That’s my point bro. I think we have a POs team too, I think we can win our division, but we can’t afford a lot of TOs in Knapp’s offense.

  84. Raider O Says:

    I think I started posting in 07/08.

  85. SaintKaufman Says:

    I totally agree with you O. Turnovers suck and costs games. All teams have to deal with them. If Palmer throws picks that are the result of crappy throws on our side of then field you will hear about it from me. If he’s chucking long bombs and getting picked way down field then it’s more of a change of possesion, just going for it.

  86. SaintKaufman Says:

    O,
    You were in here for the McFadden draft weren’t you?

  87. RaiderDuck Says:

    I’m looking at my old posts from then. Good lord, did I really advocate drafting Glenn Dorsey instead of DMAC?

  88. SaintKaufman Says:

    Oh yeah. The line in the sand over McFadden was about a mile deep. I was all about Dorsey for a while as well.

  89. SaintKaufman Says:

    and chris long, and sean ellis, and anybody else not named McFadden.

    Poor Dakota took a beating!! :)

  90. SaintKaufman Says:

    Crap, gotta roll.

    Y’all be cool!

  91. Raiders for life Says:

    Chaz Powell: DB//KR/WR?

    Career Stats: 18 carries, 147 yards rushing, 3 rush TD, 33 receptions, 414 receiving yards, 2 receiving TD, 52 tackles, 2.5 TFL, 9 passes defensed, 2 interceptions, 73 kick returns, 1866 return yards, 2 return TD

    ###########################

    I don’t recall hearing his name during KR drills.

  92. DKnight007 Says:

    There were plenty of peeps wanting Dorsey over DMC.

    Crazy!

    Then again, I fell for the JaBustas over Megatron crap.

    Ugh

  93. Raider O Says:

    SaintKaufman Says:
    August 21st, 2012 at 6:40 pm
    O,
    You were in here for the McFadden draft weren’t you?
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    I was, and I didn’t want McFadden. I wanted that kid from The OSU.

  94. DJ Johnny Says:

    Rezinator Says:
    August 21st, 2012 at 5:19 pm
    What’s up Raider Nation! First time posting

    Fine Sully how are you?

  95. Raider O Says:

    LOL DJ.

  96. raidertbone Says:

    I was just going back and looking at my 1st round draft “wish lists”, dating back to 2003: Coulda, shoulda, woulda …

    2003 – Nnamdi (hard to argue with that one)
    2004 – Robert Gallery (I was drinking the koolaid along with everyone else)
    2005 – Aaron Rodgers (local boy; great QB; projected earlier at #1; he was right there!)
    2006 – Ernie Sims, LB
    2007 – MEGATRON! MEGATRON! MEGATRON! MEGATRON! Damn it all!!
    2008 – Darren McFadden (I absolutely loved this guy!)
    2009 – B.J. Raji, NT
    2010 – Rolando McClain (I wish I hadn’t wanted him so bad)
    2011 – no pick
    2012 – no pick

    I’m no GM, but most of them turned out pretty well, don’t you think?

  97. Raider O Says:

    OAKLAND — An Oakland Raiders fan was shot in the face by an Arizona Cardinals fan in a parking lot outside the teams’ preseason football game in Glendale, Ariz., on Friday night, police said. It isn’t known whether the shooting involved a fan dispute.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Wow!

  98. raidertbone Says:

    Anything involving a Raiders fan is always a “dispute” of some kind – negative press!

  99. Goldie7 Says:

    Thanks for thee update Jer.! I enjoyed reading. You and Cork are da Men! Good looking out!

  100. Twinkle Says:

    tbone…compared to mine over those years you look like a genius.If he sucked…I wanted him.

  101. Raider O Says:

    03: I don’t remember
    04: Roy Williams, S Taylor, or Big Ben
    05: A Rogers
    06: V Young or M Huff
    07: JaBustus, C Johnson, or AP
    08: Gholston or Ellis
    09: OT, Raji, or Maclin
    10: Suh, Spoon, or McClain

  102. Twinkle Says:

    DJ…every first time poster has to go through the gauntlet of suspicion of being MR.Helps if you’ve lurked for a while beforehand.

  103. Twinkle Says:

    Hell even Detroit and I got Suh right.

  104. Raider O Says:

    Testing.

  105. Stout Ale Raider Says:

    RaiderDuck Says:
    August 21st, 2012 at 6:24 pm
    Stout Ale Raider Says:
    August 21st, 2012 at 6:15 pm
    Hey Purvisman weren’t you like the very first ever to post here? Way back when this blog started.

    ========================================

    This is currently the first non-spam comment, to a season wrap-up article from December 2007:

    Armond Says:
    January 2nd, 2008 at 12:13 am
    a co worker of mine suggest going to a 3-4 and have huff move to corner. get 2 hitters at safety and have a rotating DL. he said that our d is more suited for this because our strength is in our LB’S. he talked about catering to the talent we know will be here and build around them instead trying to get a brand new line, secondary and so on. i thought about it for a while and figured it may be the most logical thing to do. howard, morrison , huff, namdi and burgess would be our core for now. if you could get some b level safeties at worse who can hit then you would have a more physical secondary and put clemons as a rush str olb with thomas on the wks morrison ilb and williams/ thomas or pick/ fa the other ilb. haynesworth may be too expensive so if that doesnt work u pick up the next tier of d-lineman who fit for now. you can always rotate between 3-4 4-3 and a 4 2 5 with huff playing roving cb fs while routt plays as a third cb. washington gets pushed around too easily by big wrs. with the right DC it may work because we have faster athletic lbs than when ryan came here. it also may be a cost effective way to shore up the d and allow the few stars we have on defense to become more potent if we build around them by catering to them. i say attack the damn qb!!!
    ****************************************************

    Good job on the research. Purvisman did post on the very first article Jer put out here, but it was like 6 years later, followed by The Blackhole (aka Priesttj perhaps), also six years later. Thats why I thought he was the first non spam, but after looking at the dates, its clear. Actually Jer didnt get a poster til 3 years later. Spam of course.

  106. RaiderRetribution Says:

    If we are considering picking up Carter (DE), there has got to be a trade in the works for one of our DTs, as this our best and deepest set of players at a position.

  107. Twinkle Says:

    DJ…I read your posts in the previous topic regarding Seabass.Not being #1 value etc.You don’t remember the feeling of dread on 4th down in the clutch the years prior to Al drafting him I guess.Cant remember having had those feelings since.He will be without a doubt in my mind the greatest kicker in the history of the game.AL got sh!t from all sides over that.Now even the fools at BSPN are grudgingly coming round to this view
    also.He’ll have every record there is to have by the time he’s done.Still don’t believe that 61 yarder in Cleveland was even possible.He defines ‘clutch’ and he has been our offense since 2003 or so.

  108. Twinkle Says:

    Stout Ale Raider …is that the same priesttj that used to always call up ‘the brick’ on the radio?The tj at the end made me think of this.

  109. purvisman Says:

    CanuckRaider Says: The tie-breaker will be whether he goes for a naked cigarette run afterwards.//////////////////////////// I have smoked them butts but naked on the deck but never went to the store that way.

  110. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Eli Manning had 29 TD’s and 16 INT’s last season and it was good enough to win a Super Bowl.

    I expect similar numbers from Palmer this year.

  111. nyraider Says:

    I like DA, but having Saunders as OC was no brainer IMO . Hiring Knapp was a risk. Knapp is not a bust yet and deserves 6 games before being evaluated. I mean in reality Reggie hasnt done much except cut salary and bring in some low tier free agents who he hopes develops in to legit nfl starters. i think Reggie for some reason is getting a pass when IMO the raiders should go from 8-8 to playoffs.

  112. Twinkle Says:

    RR you are hoping it’s big rich right?Can’t imagine that happening.

  113. purvisman Says:

    Twinkle Says:
    August 21st, 2012 at 8:02 pm
    DJ…every first time poster has to go through the gauntlet of suspicion of being MR.Helps if you’ve lurked for a while beforehand.///////////////////////////////////////////////He posted as “golden jew” one night naming five white QB’s as the best and moments later five black QB’s as the worst. Repeated with another position and I said ‘Dam sully, you bored tonight?’ and he replied almost immediately”How’d you know it was me?’

  114. purvisman Says:

    Eli Manning had 29 TD’s and 16 INT’s last season and it was good enough to win a Super Bowl.

    I expect similar numbers from Palmer this year.////////////////////I expect better.

  115. purvisman Says:

    Stout Ale Raider Is $$ rod money / terrell randall, just got kicked off S&B Pride by Levi Damien. Found a home here as long as he doesn,t use any of those forbidden words.

  116. R8RNAZ Says:

    The season is coming up fast. I am coming home for opening night. Gonna be a great rest of the month. We havee been 8-8 the last two years the last time we went 8-8 2 years in a row we Hosted the AFC title game. Lets hope history repeats itself, only with a better ending! 1 last thing we opened with a win against the stupid chargers!

  117. RaiderDuck Says:

    Nyraider Says:
    August 21st, 2012 at 8:35 pm

    I mean in reality Reggie hasnt done much except cut salary and bring in some low tier free agents who he hopes develops in to legit nfl starters.

    ================================================

    He’s done more than that. He’s revamped and modernized the entire organization and brought it up to NFL standards. He’s hired a bright young coach and empowered him to win without being nitpicked on every blitz. And he’s completely done away with the “Raiders vs. the Media” mindset that was so prevalent. In short, he’s exactly what the organization needed. AWESOME hire by Mark Davis.

  118. backstageatapuppetshow Says:

    Coach Allen: We’re going to shake all the bushes and see what falls out. If we feel like we’ve got something that can help us, we’re going to do it.

    ________________________________________________________

    Just make sure when you’re shaking the Bushes someone doesn’t get away!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7QwTTn3FIk

  119. Twinkle Says:

    purvisman … that’s funny.MR has been working on his puppet show for years.plunkforhof caught him last year with two persona’s in action and answering up to both.
    Still a work in progress.

  120. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Al Davis lost horrible for close to 10 years but I had to hear stories about 30 years ago.

    Meanwhile, The Reggie has lost two presason games, and people are starting to take shots at him.

    Weird.

  121. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “He’s done more than that. He’s revamped and modernized the entire organization and brought it up to NFL standards. He’s hired a bright young coach and empowered him to win without being nitpicked on every blitz. And he’s completely done away with the “Raiders vs. the Media” mindset that was so prevalent. In short, he’s exactly what the organization needed. AWESOME hire by Mark Davis.”

    I agree!

  122. Twinkle Says:

    The only way to quiet the noise is for CP to look like Namath straight out of the gate otherwise it’s gonna get hella loud in here.’I told you so’ central.

  123. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Cut Condo!

  124. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Call me crazy, but it seems like the “I told you so’s” are already coming out.

  125. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Undeservingly, I would add.

  126. Twinkle Says:

    Alright…wondering where you had got to Bo.Your man is airmailing em all over the stadium with no Lechler back there to bail him out.

  127. Twinkle Says:

    JFB….undeserving?….hell they’ve had two whole games to perfect this sh!t.Bring out the pink slips already.

  128. purvisman Says:

    Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    August 21st, 2012 at 9:11 pm
    Cut Condo!///////////////////////KEEP Condo.

  129. backstageatapuppetshow Says:

    Reggie is doing great…

    You all know I like to play the Negative Nancy usually…but it’s only out of love of the cause…to stir the pot….to shake the Bushes as Coach Allen puts it….

    Reggie is being patient….realizes that it’s a marathon and not a sprint…

    It’s not all bad folks….

    I can put a positive spin on the pre season for ya too:

    Our 1st Team Defense looked great in both games….gave up points in a short field against Phoenix on the first drive…had a nice goal line stand after a turnover….

    Offense has been decent…2 picks were on 1st and ten…so we have to blame the coordinator and the QB….one of the two needs to realize they are going to have to be in charge….and neither of them have figured out who that is going to be yet….

    Palmer needs to know that he see’s the pre-snap variables last, he has to be the one to sign off on the first down shot plays….Take a shot if it’s there….if not, throw it away and play another down…

    As far as the run game goes….we need to vary it in all our packages…

    If you look at the half time stats from the game Friday….we were dominating in every category except the scoreboard….and that was our mistakes…all correctable mistakes….

    Factor in that we had 3 WR drops in game 1….a DHB Drop in game 2 for a TD…and no starting TE through both games….We also had to play 2 games in 5 days after a supposedly tough training camp start…..& I’d say we are A-Okay…

    My only issue continues to be with RICHARD SEYMOUR…

    If I was out at practice…I would make the him HATE me because I’d constantly be calling the man out…

    Right now….his lack of drive is our biggest concern IMO…

  130. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    Palmer’s approach will still be more of a fact-finding mission than a quest for efficiency and a high passer rating.
    ==================================================
    I think a little more emphasis needs to be placed on finding out if TIM can start practicing ball security now.

    Have a feeling that the efficiency and high passer rating might be contingent upon that in the regular season.

  131. Kirk Says:

    No Moore, no Ford, no Wiz, no Bush,….

    If DMAC goes down, Palmer is going to be running for his life.

  132. backstageatapuppetshow Says:

    DMAC isn’t going down….

  133. backstageatapuppetshow Says:

    McFadden is gonna run like a LIVING GOD this season…

    :)

  134. Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:

    I have the same ill feeling watching #3 Palmer trying to find his comfort zone in the WCO that I got watching Jeff George #3 in Gruden’s first year of the WCO…

  135. backstageatapuppetshow Says:

    Darren “Pitbull” McFadden

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzqJbCH75II

  136. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    now that reggie is gm, all stupid decisions get a pass…but when al was here, he was blamed for everything from the weather to the media attitude towards the raiders…reggie deserves more criticism

  137. Bongo the Bungi Jumper Says:

    Hey Yall, long time listener, first time caller. Just want to drop in and say Howdy. Go Raiders!

  138. RaiderDuck Says:

    Al_is_theraiders Says:
    August 21st, 2012 at 10:12 pm
    now that reggie is gm, all stupid decisions get a pass…but when al was here, he was blamed for everything from the weather to the media attitude towards the raiders…reggie deserves more criticism

    =============================================

    Criticism for WHAT? Reggie’s Raiders haven’t even played a regular season game yet. Wait until the regular season begins, then criticize to your heart’s content if it doesn’t go well. But you’ve got to at least give them a shot, no?

  139. blackandsilverside Says:

    Al_is_theraiders Says:
    August 21st, 2012 at 10:12 pm

    now that reggie is gm, all stupid decisions get a pass…but when al was here, he was blamed for everything from the weather to the media attitude towards the raiders…reggie deserves more criticism
    ************************************************

    Lol, funny! And of what transgressions is Reggie culpable?

    We have to see how the season plays out before we point the finger at him.

    Btw, AD, was a member of living dead for the past 10 yrs, reminding us of a zombie movie: there are plenty of mistakes to point finger at AD, mainly the near destruction of the club.

  140. Twinkle Says:

    purvisman …..we have too many probowlers on this squad already.Why not lose one?Sometimes my sarcasm …never mind just kidding.

  141. blackandsilverside Says:

    Backstageatapuppetshow:

    My only issue continues to be with RICHARD SEYMOUR…
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    I am with you Backstage, but what can we do ? Hopefully he absence in the pre-season will keep in the regular season longer.

    Seymour is over the hill: maybe we get some good games out of him.

    Also, I don’t consider him a leader on the club. Leaders aren’t appointed or made, they are self created by one who does what no one else can do, when no one else will do it – leading by example. Seymour doesn’t strike me as the type.

  142. backstageatapuppetshow Says:

    Agreed

  143. JB Says:

    I’m not worried about CP3. He’ll be just fine. If you haven’t read this article, please do as it explains a lot of what we’ve seen so far.

    http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders/ci_21367028/oakland-raider-carson-palmer-not-concerned-about-lackluster

    Experimentation now can mean points in the future. Palmer is playing it smart. I think he just needs tall receivers like DHB, Streater, Criner & maybe a Plexo thrown in there too. Receivers got to go up and or out to fight for that ball. I personally think our starting WR corps will be DHB, Moore & Streater.

  144. Twinkle Says:

    Duck even if we had gotten Ron Wolfe back in Reggie’s place some in here would be calling HIM out for his ‘ignorance’.
    The ‘instant gratification’ generation or something I guess.

  145. alex7 Says:

    Palmer is throwing to a bunch of unprovens at WR and TE, so what he says about this pre-season being a simple “let’s see what these guys can do” no downside situation.

    Which I stated about a week ago :)

  146. RaiderRetribution Says:

    As long as it’s not Bryant (unless we get a first round draft pick).

    I expect it to be Cumbie, Hamilton, or Seymour at trade deadline, when teams are simply picking up ringers for a playoff run.

  147. Twinkle Says:

    JB I’m with you on Palmer.If we start 0-4 and he looks like sh!t then I’ll start whining.Wideouts will be IMO
    DHB,Criner and Streater.Moore must have the mother of all hammies.Dunno about Plex though…anyone that shoots himself in his own a$$ is suspect upstairs IMO.

  148. Try Some Reality Says:

    Look at Jerry laying another blog smackdown. He probably shakes his head as he reads some of the Chicken Little comments in here.

  149. Try Some Reality Says:

    Some of you are hiilarious. After 2 preseason games you already want to BBQ Reggie Mac? I hope you people don’t own guns.

  150. beach Says:

    There is big concern with the health of Moore and Ford. That is the only thing that matters in preseason: the health of your starters. We are lucky the Chargers have no running game and have lost one WR heading into the opener. Reggie McClain is a genius compared to the last 10 years of Al Davis’ life!

  151. Twinkle Says:

    #149.
    Amen!

  152. Mr Green Says:

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  153. beach Says:

    I meant McKenzie :)

  154. Mr Green Says:

    :mrgreen:

  155. Mr Green Says:

    Its all good. Raidahs still goin to Nawleens and so am I.

    :mrgreen:

  156. Twinkle Says:

    Reggie Rolando whatever.

  157. Mr Green Says:

    Raidah’s

  158. Mr Green Says:

    s,ɥɐpıɐᖈ

  159. Twinkle Says:

    #152.
    Showoff.

  160. Mr Green Says:

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  161. Mr Green Says:

    ᖇᗩᓰᖙᗩᖺ’ᔕ

  162. Twinkle Says:

    Love em.

  163. Mr Green Says:

    Rᴀɪᴅᴀʜ’s

  164. Mr Green Says:

    ℛαїḓ@н‷﹩

  165. Twinkle Says:

    blackandsilverside Says:
    August 21st, 2012 at 10:35 pm

    Backstageatapuppetshow:

    My only issue continues to be with RICHARD SEYMOUR…
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    I am with you Backstage, but what can we do ? Hopefully he absence in the pre-season will keep in the regular season longer.

    Seymour is over the hill: maybe we get some good games out of him.

    Also, I don’t consider him a leader on the club. Leaders aren’t appointed or made, they are self created by one who does what no one else can do, when no one else will do it – leading by example. Seymour doesn’t strike me as the type.
    ++++++++++++++++
    I get that you Backstage and others don’t like Seymour
    and with good reason I’m sure.
    My question is how do we get out from under a contract like his or do we?
    I’m unsure if he’s paid if he’s cut but I do know it costs some way.BTW I’m a big rich fan and I hope he brings it this year but I have hope not knowledge.

  166. rob_raider Says:

    i hope carter is healthy. i met him a couple years ago at a gymboree. both of our kids were playing there. talked to him for a while. a really cool guy. and huge. he’s one of those guys, that th second u see him, u say “that guy has to play pro football”. he just seemes designed by God to be a football player. tall, wide shoulders and frame. just looks like a great athlete. he could not only help as a situational pass rusher but possibly at LB.

  167. rob_raider Says:

    regarding seymour, i’m a little p!ssed too. they keep talking about how it’s normal for vets to take time out here and there so as to not wear themselves out. really? is anyone else doing it? what if every fuking vet did this?

  168. DJ Johnny Says:

    purvisman Says:
    August 21st, 2012 at 8:42 pm
    Twinkle Says:
    August 21st, 2012 at 8:02 pm
    DJ…every first time poster has to go through the gauntlet of suspicion of being MR.Helps if you’ve lurked for a while beforehand.///////////////////////////////////////////////He posted as “golden jew” one night naming five white QB’s as the best and moments later five black QB’s as the worst. Repeated with another position and I said ‘Dam sully, you bored tonight?’ and he replied almost immediately”How’d you know it was me?’

    Hahahaha. “Golden Jew”? I’m sorry but that is hilarious….

  169. DJ Johnny Says:

    rob_raider Says:
    August 21st, 2012 at 11:33 pm
    regarding seymour, i’m a little p!ssed too. they keep talking about how it’s normal for vets to take time out here and there so as to not wear themselves out. really? is anyone else doing it? what if every fuking vet did this?

    The problem I have with it is THAT is the kind of treatment only a future hall of famer who has had so much of an impact on his team that such preferential treatment is merited.

    Not saying Seymour is “bad” or even that he’s not a decent …maybe above average player right now, but as much as I hate to say it…i agree with Sapp; still waiting for him to take over a game…not just have people tell me he did…even though i didn’t didn’t hear his name called.

  170. purvisman Says:

    Love ya, Mr green. And, I thought we established that siverside was a 49er fan.

  171. purvisman Says:

    Hahahaha. “Golden Jew”? I’m sorry but that is hilarious….////////////////////////
    True story, maybe six weeks ago about 12:30 ,1:00 A.M.

  172. PlunkforHOF Says:

    I am 100% behind The Reginator.. As I said before.. look for roster moves after cutdowns.. and I am stoked to see what kind of magic get done.

    Re: over/under for CP3 INT’s @ 16 1/2.. I dont care if he throws 20 INTs if it goes with with 39 Td’s.

    Get well DeGnarlious….

    Thanks Twinkle for the shout-out.. I love punking MR whenever possible.. His Sock Puppet Army was here tonite, but I think he’s been shamed into wagging a more civil tongue.

    CODE BLACK 2012

  173. purvisman Says:

    Mr. Green, just returned from a long llama trek with 12 people and 9 llamas and have not tried anymore logo attempts. Don’t see one here yet, hope you’re still working at it.

  174. purvisman Says:

    CODE BLACK 2012. Over and out.

  175. Twinkle Says:

    PlunkforHOF Says:
    August 21st, 2012 at 11:46 pm

    I am 100% behind The Reginator.. As I said before.. look for roster moves after cutdowns.. and I am stoked to see what kind of magic get done.

    Re: over/under for CP3 INT’s @ 16 1/2.. I dont care if he throws 20 INTs if it goes with with 39 Td’s.

    Get well DeGnarlious….
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    I second that!!
    How is it in the ‘great dairyland’?…nice time of year.

  176. DJ Johnny Says:

    Where’s the “Golden Jew” tonight? Ha. Still lmao.

  177. DJ Johnny Says:

    There’s some symbolic significance to an Andre Carter signing.

    A guy from New England that Raiders didn’t have to buy to come here.

    If Reg signs him it means he’s got something left.

  178. J-Raider Says:

    where is mistic-debo? hmmm.. maybe he looked at an updated roster list, found out jamarcus russell was cut by the raiders, then gave up and became a miami dolphin fan..

  179. J-Raider Says:

    Andre Carter is an old version of wimbley.. thats all he brings to this team if we sign him.. a situational pass rushing linebacker/d-end hybrid type player.. but if he signs vet-min and gives us a vet leadership/rolemodel type of presance, then im cool with it fo sho..

  180. J-Raider Says:

    wouldnt mind bringing in aaron berry either.. the dude is actually good, just needs to clean up his act. hes young and is looking at a 3 game suspension, we could possibly get him cheap on a 1 year deal, if nothing else just to add depth..

  181. J-Raider Says:

    wam bam thank you mam… three posts in a row! yeeeeahhhh!!!!!

  182. Twinkle Says:

    J…that’s how it’s been hanging the couple nights.

  183. purvisman Says:

    Oakland Raiders Vs. Detroit Lions 8/25/12: Ryan’s Free NFL Pick Against the Spread Free Football Picks Written by Ryan on August 21, 2012 There doesn’t look to be any significant injuries heading into this preseason game, so we should see all of the usual starters playing for both teams. The third preseason game is usually a dress rehearsal for the starting units. The starters will at least play the first half and may come out for the start of the third quarter in this game. The edge has to go to the Detroit Lions in this game. Oakland will not have any answer for Stafford and Johnson and the Detroit defense will put too much pressure on Palmer and the Raiders rushing attack. The Lions will score early and often and as long the reserves can hold onto the lead in the 4th quarter, Detroit should have no problem covering in this one.////////////////WTF

  184. J-Raider Says:

    my prediction for palmer this season:

    yds- 4350

    tds- 26

    ints- 18

    fumb- 4

    so i got him for 22 turnovers this season, which is about average for him.. he could put up better numbers if mcfadden stays healthy but im assuming he wont so thats where i have palmer this year..

  185. J-Raider Says:

    oak 32 det 27 what what!?!

  186. J-Raider Says:

    ok i guess im going to bed too, later nation!!!

  187. Twinkle Says:

    There ain’t much we can go on about.Three weeks in with a new regime,coaches,blocking scheme and on and on.How anyone can foretell how this season is gonna pan out is beyond me.Doesn’t stop some from trying though.

  188. purvisman Says:

    oak 32 det 27 what what!?!//////////////////////No way. Oak42 det17.

  189. Twinkle Says:

    Is it just me or has anyone else here noticed a drop in quality of Jack lately?

  190. Twinkle Says:

    purvisman Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 12:50 am

    oak 32 det 27 what what!?!//////////////////////No way. Oak42 det17.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++
    Way to go dude!!!!

  191. purvisman Says:

    Is it just me or has anyone else here noticed a drop in quality of Jack lately?/////////////Maybe, what kind of Jack?

  192. Kirk Says:

    If we don’t get Moore, Ford, and Wiz back by opening day, it could get ugly.

  193. raidertbone Says:

    I like the way the season starts out for the Silver and Black — I see 2-0 after Week Two, baby!

  194. Twinkle Says:

    The usual run of the mill Jack Daniels…last two bottles tasted like crap….maybe my body is trying to tell me something…..finally.

  195. Posts about The Raiders From Other Great Blogs issue #1 | Raiders Central | Oakland Raiders Blog Says:

    [...] The Raiders From Other Great Blogs issue #1 By Raiders Central, on August 21st, 2012 Preseason stats don’t faze Palmer – ibabuzz.com 08/22/2012 Stolen from Wednesday’s paper, plus notes . . . Carson Palmer [...]

  196. TxRaider210 Says:

    Good morning Nation! Is anybody out there?lol

  197. TxRaider210 Says:

    Cedric Benson is going to get mauled tomorrow by Bungel’s D.

  198. nyraider Says:

    not concerned about Palmer’s stats. More concerned about the ZBS and our lack of depth at WR. Jacoby is fragile and DMoore has been out a long time. i believe 100% in Dmac , but am concerned the best defense against him is the ZBS. obviously wish saunders was in charge to continue to build on the offense scheme that imo fits our offensive personnel better. Losing Chad and murphy arent franchise changers but imo reggie needs to get a vet WR in here fast.

  199. Bob Marley Says:

    Andre Carter visiting the Rams next, looks like he didn’t get an offer from us yet, maybe he’s not all the way back from injury.

  200. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    GOOD DAY TXRAIDER..

  201. TxRaider210 Says:

    Bob

    That’s kind of what I’m thinking, if Reg liked him enough, he may have left with a contract.

  202. TxRaider210 Says:

    Good Day Dirt Lot! It was a ghost town in here for a little.lol

  203. hwnrdr Says:

    Good Morning Nation!!!
    Gotta go with Palmer on tis one guys…it is what pre-season is for!

  204. TxRaider210 Says:

    hwnrdr Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 5:54 am
    Good Morning Nation!!!
    Gotta go with Palmer on tis one guys…it is what pre-season is for!

    ——————-
    Agreed man, if a QB wants to make risky throws, try them out in games that don’t matter.imo

  205. TxRaider210 Says:

    I will take a shot of whiskey tomorrow for the former Raider, if Howard cleans Benson’s clock.

  206. hwnrdr Says:

    Ok guys…just seen this…
    WTF is Organic Coke and Pepsi Raw? Serioulsy???

  207. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    TX, I did some research on oddsmaker(dot)com. It may not be the best. I read it’s hard to get money back. Here are some other sites.

    http://www.sports-betting-insights.com/best-online-sports-betting-sites.html#Intertops

  208. TxRaider210 Says:

    hwnrdr Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 5:57 am
    Ok guys…just seen this…
    WTF is Organic Coke and Pepsi Raw? Serioulsy???

    ———————-
    It’s just a gimmick so people don’t think they’re making their kids fat.lol Just like anything on the Wac Arnolds menu, won’t touch it.

  209. TxRaider210 Says:

    Klas

    Thanks for the links man, I’m also going to contact my friend this weekend and get some pointers on how to maximize profit.

  210. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Pepsi Raw, LOL!

  211. hwnrdr Says:

    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 6:00 am
    hwnrdr Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 5:57 am
    Ok guys…just seen this…
    WTF is Organic Coke and Pepsi Raw? Serioulsy???

    ———————-
    It’s just a gimmick so people don’t think they’re making their kids fat.lol Just like anything on the Wac Arnolds menu, won’t touch it.

    Agreed! he only time I drink a coke is with vodka! :)

  212. Bob Marley Says:

    Carson Palmer’s average of 340 yards and 68.8 completion percentage with 4 TD’s and 3 Int’s over the final 3 games of last season, with a playoff spot on the line, indicates he can clearly play at a high level.

    Skills won’t hold Palmer back yet, the new Offense might, but there’s still time.

  213. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Pepsi Raw add looks 1970s Swedish:

    http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5091/5547460319_bf71f6c92e_o.jpg

  214. TxRaider210 Says:

    hwnrdr Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 6:06 am
    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 6:00 am
    hwnrdr Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 5:57 am
    Ok guys…just seen this…
    WTF is Organic Coke and Pepsi Raw? Serioulsy???

    ———————-
    It’s just a gimmick so people don’t think they’re making their kids fat.lol Just like anything on the Wac Arnolds menu, won’t touch it.

    Agreed! he only time I drink a coke is with vodka!

    ———————–
    Yessir same for me but with Crown!

  215. TxRaider210 Says:

    Klas

    That it one nicely shaped bottle of Pepsi:)

  216. TxRaider210 Says:

    Bob Marley Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 6:07 am
    Carson Palmer’s average of 340 yards and 68.8 completion percentage with 4 TD’s and 3 Int’s over the final 3 games of last season, with a playoff spot on the line, indicates he can clearly play at a high level.

    Skills won’t hold Palmer back yet, the new Offense might, but there’s still time.

    —————–
    Endorsed! Just how I feel about CP.

  217. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Jack Crawford ‏@Sack_Religious
    Can’t wait for the iPhone 5. Going to be historic #TeamiPhone
    ——
    Totally bro. Gonna be like landing on the moon! Holla!

  218. bunk moorland Says:

    Mouring nation,
    Not a good day for the bunk, hope it gets better. Last night, hooked up with some skank from adultfriendfinder, got off and went home. well this mourning i wake up, notice that my dik is like plastured to my boxers with discharge substance dripping out, i get up go to bathroom, peel my dik off boxer and start to urinate, yup , it burns really bad. After peeing in spurts for like 10 mins ,i get shower, get dressed, pack my pipe and leave. As im putting truck in reverse i relize i forgot my phone, so as i get out to get it, i forgot about my glass piece on my lap ,it falls and smashes into pieces. Then i go to doctor get a shot and head to work. My phone rings and its the wife, happy aniversary she says. Great, now i have to come up with a reason why i dont want to have sex tonight.
    Does anybody have good reason? ty nation for the help.

  219. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Steve Corkran ‏@CorkOnTheNFL
    “@EL_TACO_NACO: @CorkOnTheNFL I’m taking babes to the opener. Kinda lied & told them I work with u. Can you play along with it?” — Cost ya
    Expand
    Reply Retweet Favorite
    —–
    LOL! What kind of babes are impressed by Steve Corkran?

  220. Raider Riff Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    August 21st, 2012 at 9:12 pm
    Call me crazy, but it seems like the “I told you so’s” are already coming out.

    ———————————

    The idiotic behavior on this board is at a fever pitch. Some of y’all really need to check which team you root for. I agree with JFB, it seems a lot of people here are rooting against our team.

    If you have derogatory nicknames for Rich Gannon you might not be a Raider fan… If you also have derogatory nicknames for our current starting QB, you definitely are an imposter.

    For all you Greg Knapp haters… go rewatch the game. He put us on the 1 yard line. Our O-LIne got blown up. Not his fault. Knapp has repeatedly called the right plays, it’s been a clear cut lack of execution that has kept us from scoring.

    For all you CP3 haters…. Palmer hit DHB on the numbers for 6 and the receiver didnt make the catch. Following that he made a brilliant throw while going down that Streater couldnt hold onto.

    In the previous game Ford let him down on multiple plays.

    Palmer’s receivers have to make the plays.

    RunDMC repeatedly missed open running lanes, Goodson couldnt hold onto the ball, and when our OLine wasnt getting blown up on the 1 they were allowing our QB’s to run for their lives.

    Go re-watch the game a few times. CP3 and Knapp are not the current problem.

    When our receivers arent dropping passes, Goodson isnt fumbling, and our O-line isnt waiving defenders by, we actually move the ball quite nicely.

  221. TxRaider210 Says:

    Riff

    Gannon is NOT a Raider fan, he ranks them 25th! Get it?

  222. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    The idiotic behavior on this board is at a fever pitch. Some of y’all really need to check which team you root for. I agree with JFB, it seems a lot of people here are rooting against our team.
    ——-
    Seems like all the Al loyalists are looking for anyway to criticize the new regime. They are the like the MR in the opposite way.

  223. Bob Marley Says:

    The future of the DL is Houston/Bryant/Christo inside, Shaugnessy moving to LDE and us finding a Pass-Rushing RDE in the mold of Jared Allen, Osi Umenyiora, John Abraham…you know, a double-digit Sack, speed rusher who can turn the corner and get to the QB.

    Wouldn’t be surprised if we drafted one in the 1st or 3rd round next year, provided he’s better value than a CB another area of need.

  224. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    The Al fan boys can’t wait for Dennis Allen and Reggie to fail.

  225. TxRaider210 Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 6:16 am
    The idiotic behavior on this board is at a fever pitch. Some of y’all really need to check which team you root for. I agree with JFB, it seems a lot of people here are rooting against our team.
    ——-
    Seems like all the Al loyalists are looking for anyway to criticize the new regime. They are the like the MR in the opposite way.

    —————–
    True Klas, I would think a true fan would rip Gannon for ranking the team 25th.imo

  226. TxRaider210 Says:

    Bob Marley Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 6:16 am
    The future of the DL is Houston/Bryant/Christo inside, Shaugnessy moving to LDE and us finding a Pass-Rushing RDE in the mold of Jared Allen, Osi Umenyiora, John Abraham…you know, a double-digit Sack, speed rusher who can turn the corner and get to the QB.

    Wouldn’t be surprised if we drafted one in the 1st or 3rd round next year, provided he’s better value than a CB another area of need.

    —————-
    Man I’m just excited for when they take the chains off of the defense in game one, I expect the guys they have to get after it.

  227. TxRaider210 Says:

    As much as I dislike the Cowgirls, who also finished 8-8 last year, I still know they shouldn’t be ranked 25th in the league. This is what I’m saying about Gannon, dude is bitter and a hater.imo

  228. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Gannon is either bitter or just being a troll.

  229. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Gannon knows how to push our buttons.

  230. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Can any of you explain to me what Takis are?

  231. bunk moorland Says:

    Raider Riff Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 6:12 am
    Just Fire Baby Says:
    August 21st, 2012 at 9:12 pm
    Call me crazy, but it seems like the “I told you so’s” are already coming out.

    ———————————

    The idiotic behavior on this board is at a fever pitch. Some of y’all really need to check which team you root for. I agree with JFB, it seems a lot of people here are rooting against our team.

    If you have derogatory nicknames for Rich Gannon you might not be a Raider fan… If you also have derogatory nicknames for our current starting QB, you definitely are an imposter.

    For all you Greg Knapp haters… go rewatch the game. He put us on the 1 yard line. Our O-LIne got blown up. Not his fault. Knapp has repeatedly called the right plays, it’s been a clear cut lack of execution that has kept us from scoring.

    For all you CP3 haters…. Palmer hit DHB on the numbers for 6 and the receiver didnt make the catch. Following that he made a brilliant throw while going down that Streater couldnt hold onto.

    In the previous game Ford let him down on multiple plays.

    Palmer’s receivers have to make the plays.

    RunDMC repeatedly missed open running lanes, Goodson couldnt hold onto the ball, and when our OLine wasnt getting blown up on the 1 they were allowing our QB’s to run for their lives.

    Go re-watch the game a few times. CP3 and Knapp are not the current problem.

    When our receivers arent dropping passes, Goodson isnt fumbling, and our O-line isnt waiving defenders by, we actually move the ball quite nicely.
    ——————————————————-

    I agree with all except the o-line on the 1 yard line. There i blame Knapp. My reason is bcause he calls zone runs, when you block for a zone run the o-lines first step is lateral , they dont attack the d-line.

  232. TxRaider210 Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 6:22 am
    Gannon knows how to push our buttons.

    —————-
    Gannon’s opinions matter to me, about as much as mine matter to him.lol

  233. TxRaider210 Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 6:23 am
    Can any of you explain to me what Takis are?

    ————————-
    The only Takis I had are a type of chip from Mexico, just a chip but kind of rolled up.

  234. Bob Marley Says:

    By the way, I’m an “Al fan” and I’m rooting hard for Reggie and Dennis Allen, it’s not a mutually exclusive deal you know?.

    But let’s be honest, some guys seem to have blind faith in every single move Reggie and DA do, it’s time to realize they will make mistakes too, everybody in the League does, it’s part of the job, not an exact science you know?.

    Those posters who can’t take healthy criticism and believe every move they make is the right one are actually not helping the new guys…gotta give them some room to operate, grow into their roles and take some lumps, like everyone else before them.

  235. TxRaider210 Says:

    http://www.mexgrocer.com/brand-takis.html
    ———————
    Klas, these are the only Takis I know of..

  236. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    This is the best rap song ever, Hot Cheetos and Takis:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YLy4j8EZIk&feature=player_embedded

  237. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    That is them TX! Apparently the kids are loving them!

  238. TxRaider210 Says:

    Bob Marley Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 6:29 am
    By the way, I’m an “Al fan” and I’m rooting hard for Reggie and Dennis Allen, it’s not a mutually exclusive deal you know?.

    But let’s be honest, some guys seem to have blind faith in every single move Reggie and DA do, it’s time to realize they will make mistakes too, everybody in the League does, it’s part of the job, not an exact science you know?.

    Those posters who can’t take healthy criticism and believe every move they make is the right one are actually not helping the new guys…gotta give them some room to operate, grow into their roles and take some lumps, like everyone else before them.

    ——————
    Yep, they’re going to make mistakes just like any other staff would, but I think most believe the team is headed the right direction.

  239. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    It’s about a quarter to a four
    Rolling to the store
    What you bout to get?
    Hah, you already know
    Got like 3 or 4 dollars and a couple odd cents
    Bout to cop me some hot cheetos and a lemonade brisk
    I’m ridin’ around on my bicycle
    Ridin’ around on my bicycle
    Pull up to the studio
    Cuz you know the kid be melting them microphones
    Munching on my takis like I just don’t care
    Then I walk up to your girl and she asking me to share

  240. TxRaider210 Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 6:31 am
    That is them TX! Apparently the kids are loving them!

    ———————–
    Those things are damn good bro, the regular chips they make in Habanero or Jalapeno are off the hizzle!

  241. TxRaider210 Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 6:32 am
    It’s about a quarter to a four
    Rolling to the store
    What you bout to get?
    Hah, you already know
    Got like 3 or 4 dollars and a couple odd cents
    Bout to cop me some hot cheetos and a lemonade brisk
    I’m ridin’ around on my bicycle
    Ridin’ around on my bicycle
    Pull up to the studio
    Cuz you know the kid be melting them microphones
    Munching on my takis like I just don’t care
    Then I walk up to your girl and she asking me to share

    ——————–
    LMAO The video was too funny!

  242. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    TX, you eat the Takis with your BBQ Bologna?

  243. TxRaider210 Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 6:36 am
    TX, you eat the Takis with your BBQ Bologna?

    —————-
    LOL Nah I normally eat the chips with ice cold brewski!

  244. TxRaider210 Says:

    Klas

    If I lived in the land of Ice and Snow, I would order takis and eat them with BBQ Reindeer/Moose.

  245. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    TX,what is your brewski of choice?

  246. Bob Marley Says:

    Tx.

    Man I’m just excited for when they take the chains off of the defense in game one, I expect the guys they have to get after it.
    —————————————————

    Yeah, that’s probably the most exciting development or next season, should be fun to watch, hopefully the coverage holds up more often than not, you know some blitzes won’t get there and we can give up some yardage and even points, but it’s well worth it, we’ll have a nice preview on saturday vs Detroit.

    Jerry or Steve said they are putting in a little gam-planning for that one, can’t wait man.

  247. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    I think Raider defense will be big surprise of year. I envision a lot of low scoring Raider games.

  248. TxRaider210 Says:

    Klas

    I drink Miller Lite casually, but prefer Blue Moon or maybe Shock Top if I want to spend more.

  249. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Hope we don’t see Ronaldo covering Megatron this Saturday.

  250. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    I like to drink a nice Oatmeal Stout.

  251. TxRaider210 Says:

    Bob Marley Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 6:40 am
    Tx.

    Man I’m just excited for when they take the chains off of the defense in game one, I expect the guys they have to get after it.
    —————————————————

    Yeah, that’s probably the most exciting development or next season, should be fun to watch, hopefully the coverage holds up more often than not, you know some blitzes won’t get there and we can give up some yardage and even points, but it’s well worth it, we’ll have a nice preview on saturday vs Detroit.

    Jerry or Steve said they are putting in a little gam-planning for that one, can’t wait man.

    —————————
    Yeah man I heard that, if Bartell/Spencer hold their own, the D should be very good. Still don’t know about DVD, maybe Pat Lee steals his job..

  252. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Screw DVD, we need to update to Blu-Ray.

  253. TxRaider210 Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 6:41 am
    Hope we don’t see Ronaldo covering Megatron this Saturday.

    ———————
    No kidding, Bartell should do fine though, he’s used to playing against Fitz and Roddy White.

  254. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Klas can’t believe Nickleback dude married Avril Lavigne. :(

  255. TxRaider210 Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 6:43 am
    Screw DVD, we need to update to Blu-Ray.

    ———————-
    DVD just doesn’t weigh enough or tackle for schit.imo

  256. guest123 Says:

    Good Morning Nation! How’s everyone?

  257. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Avril Lavigne is the hotness. Nickleback is the opposite of the hotness.

  258. TxRaider210 Says:

    Good Morning Guest, doing well bro 3 days til game time!

  259. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Guest, the nation is sad about Avril Lavigne’s marriage.

  260. JR Says:

    Maybe 30 and 16, but I’ll take 24/14.

    I’ll take 12 and 9 if it means playoffs.

    ——————————————–

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 21st, 2012 at 5:55 pm

    Palmer will throw 14 INTS and 24 TDS

  261. TxRaider210 Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 6:47 am
    Avril Lavigne is the hotness. Nickleback is the opposite of the hotness.

    ——————–
    Maybe he will be a hound dawg, Avril will get pissed and Klas catches her on the rebound..

  262. theghostronin79 Says:

    Mornin Guest….Good post. I was feeling simalarly, in that Palmer might have been testing the waters….Trying to see what he could get away with and what might work; as far as the interceptions go. Now’s the time to try (and fail) to see what you got. I personally wasn’t getting TOO worked up by the Int’s.

  263. guest123 Says:

    Good to hear Tx. I’m a bit jet lagged over here on pacific time down in San Jose. I’m gonna be gone before the next game though. I love the Raiders and always will. But I’ll never consider living here again. It’s nice to visit family and friends though.

  264. guest123 Says:

    Morning Ghost79,

    I hope we will see Palmer in regular season form this Saturday. I’m wearing my white Palmer #3 jersey whereever I go. Which isn’t far since I don’t have a rental car!

  265. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 6:48 am
    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 6:47 am
    Avril Lavigne is the hotness. Nickleback is the opposite of the hotness.

    ——————–
    Maybe he will be a hound dawg, Avril will get pissed and Klas catches her on the rebound..
    ——-
    I hope you are correct. Klas has had thing for Avril since she was 17 (age of consent in Sweden is 15). Klas’ perveness is within the bounds of the law.

  266. TxRaider210 Says:

    guest123 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 6:49 am
    Good to hear Tx. I’m a bit jet lagged over here on pacific time down in San Jose. I’m gonna be gone before the next game though. I love the Raiders and always will. But I’ll never consider living here again. It’s nice to visit family and friends though.

    ——————
    Yeah man I know how that can be, I’m going back to my hometown in 3 weeks to catch up with family, but wouldn’t move back there.

  267. guest123 Says:

    I went to the local CVS Pharmacy to buy a 6 pack of bottled water and they asked me if I wanted to pay another ten cents for a plastic bag. I’m thinking, what kind of scam is this? They already pay $4.19 a gallon for gas and they can’t even get a crummy tenth of cent plastic bag for free. Something to do with keeping the city “green”. LOL

  268. TxRaider210 Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 6:52 am
    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 6:48 am
    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 6:47 am
    Avril Lavigne is the hotness. Nickleback is the opposite of the hotness.

    ——————–
    Maybe he will be a hound dawg, Avril will get pissed and Klas catches her on the rebound..
    ——-
    I hope you are correct. Klas has had thing for Avril since she was 17 (age of consent in Sweden is 15). Klas’ perveness is within the bounds of the law.

    ———————–
    Avril is a little bundle of hotness Klas, I wouldn’t fault you one bit if you bought a fat-head featuring her.lol

  269. theghostronin79 Says:

    Morning Ghost79,

    I hope we will see Palmer in regular season form this Saturday. I’m wearing my white Palmer #3 jersey whereever I go. Which isn’t far since I don’t have a rental car!

    =============

    I used to live in Sanoma County; still got family there. Usually head to Petaluma once a year. It’s always nice to fly back into Oakland and be back to the “Motherland” so to speak. There’s not many Raider fans up here in Oregon. So, it’s always nice to be NEAR the stadium and NATION Headquarters….Even if it’s only for a couple days.

  270. hwnrdr Says:

    Ok, a little technical difficulties with the mmonitors malfuctioning, but I’m back!

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 6:23 am
    Can any of you explain to me what Takis are?

    Klas, in Ilocano, taki is doodoo!

  271. theghostronin79 Says:

    How’s Tx doin today?

  272. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Code Ginger in full effect as Palmer claims he is not worried he will kick some ass this year….just not in preseason apparently.

  273. guest123 Says:

    Sonoma is beautiful country. Petaluma at least what I remember was a quaint little town. Great wine country, Napa HQ around the way. I used to live down in Benicia and would drive up to get my fix of wine, and head into Marin county. Very nice!

  274. TxRaider210 Says:

    theghostronin79 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 7:07 am
    How’s Tx doin today?

    —————–
    Doing well bro and you? I’m pumped for the game, finally a taste of real play calling, should be interesting..

  275. TxRaider210 Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 7:10 am
    Code Ginger in full effect as Palmer claims he is not worried he will kick some ass this year….just not in preseason apparently.

    ——————–
    We will find out what CP has in store come Saturday night!

  276. guest123 Says:

    Better not be more dink and dunk stuff from Knapp on Saturday night…or I’ll be very very worried about the Raiders, until DA strips his playcalling duties like Cable did.

  277. TxRaider210 Says:

    guest123 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 7:15 am
    Better not be more dink and dunk stuff from Knapp on Saturday night…or I’ll be very very worried about the Raiders, until DA strips his playcalling duties like Cable did.

    ———————
    Agreed, we better not see play where 7 yards are needed, but he calls a dink for 5 yards.geez

  278. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “We will find out what CP has in store come Saturday night!”

    I will be at the game and wearing my Palmer #3 jersey

  279. TxRaider210 Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 7:25 am
    “We will find out what CP has in store come Saturday night!”

    I will be at the game and wearing my Palmer #3 jersey

    —————–
    Lucky you man I’m jealous. Hoping CP has a great game and proves some folks wrong.

  280. theghostronin79 Says:

    Yeah, I’m looking forward to the game for sure…. But we drew a tough team for our “Dress Rehearsal”. I mean, honestly, it’s one of the toughest teams we could face at this particular point in preseason. They’re absolutely physical on defense. It will be a good test to be certain. We’ll get a real good feel for where we stand at the end of this game I think. There’s a little nagging feeling in the back of my skull, that tells me there will be a collective SIGH as we think in unison….”DAMN, we ain’t there yet.”
    BUUUT, I’m trying to ignore that by overdosing on extra strong Kool-Aid…… GO RAIDERS ! ! ! BEASTS

  281. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    .run, run, 3 yard out all day…from the great reggie hire…(on 3rd and 4).

  282. TxRaider210 Says:

    theghostronin79 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 7:29 am
    Yeah, I’m looking forward to the game for sure…. But we drew a tough team for our “Dress Rehearsal”. I mean, honestly, it’s one of the toughest teams we could face at this particular point in preseason. They’re absolutely physical on defense. It will be a good test to be certain. We’ll get a real good feel for where we stand at the end of this game I think. There’s a little nagging feeling in the back of my skull, that tells me there will be a collective SIGH as we think in unison….”DAMN, we ain’t there yet.”
    BUUUT, I’m trying to ignore that by overdosing on extra strong Kool-Aid…… GO RAIDERS ! ! ! BEASTS

    ——————
    Yeah I wished this game wasn’t the Lions too, sometimes they just play dirty. I’m hoping the Raiders are even more physical on D and in Staffords face a lot, Megatron is another story.

  283. RaiderSam Says:

    The rumor that Palmer cannot run the West Coast offense are starting to surface.

    It’s why Paul Hackett was fired at USC. Palmer does not trust what he sees in this offense this he’s late with the ball making him look inaccurate and turnover prone. He’s going to have to make a living off his check down WR.

    The west coast offense is timing based. The QB drop and release has to be in lock sync with his WR route. You need a game manager to run that offense. Palmer is not a game manager. He thrives in a offense where he uses instinct and throws to a spot on the field. This is why he’s had success under coaches like Ken Zampese and Norm Chow.

    McFadden is CRITICAL to the season, and a bell cow short-yardage RB is the key. Allen may need to mix in some deep shots, but with Ford and Moore out, its starting to look questionable. If Palmer can right the ship and DMC is back, the Chargers is a winnable game, because Rivers seems to have lost arm strength and they lack a true no. 1 back (Ronnie Brown is done)

  284. The Big Banana Says:

    Agree with the concern in playing the Lions for our 3rd. Hoping for no injuries. I’d be fine with DA pulling out the starters earlier than usual for this game.

  285. TxRaider210 Says:

    The Big Banana Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 7:38 am
    Agree with the concern in playing the Lions for our 3rd. Hoping for no injuries. I’d be fine with DA pulling out the starters earlier than usual for this game.

    ——————
    Yep me too man, would like DMC not to play at all since Goodson has much to prove, as well as Taiwan.

  286. theghostronin79 Says:

    ——————
    Yeah I wished this game wasn’t the Lions too, sometimes they just play dirty. I’m hoping the Raiders are even more physical on D and in Staffords face a lot, Megatron is another story.

    ========

    That would be fantastic. Somebody needs to punch them in the mouth; make a statement…. Show them what a bully beat down is all about.

  287. MikieG Says:

    THANK YOU JERRY!

    I swear to almighty Zeus some of you guys on here have more anxiety than a spring rabbit. I live in Illinois so I can’t watch these preseason games till they get replayed on NFL Network. However, I come on here to try and glean some information from some of the best fans in football and all I read about is that Carson sucks and we can’t score, and he is missing all these throws and is inaccurate as hell etc. etc..

    Then I actually watch the games and I cannot believe some of you guys are actually crapping your diapers over this guy. Do you not know what PRESEASON FOOTBALL IS?? Do you not know that this is nothing more than a scrimmage with our sweet looking uniforms on? Nothing more than a dress rehearsal for what the PROCESS of the game is going to be like–Which is especially Valuable for the new guys…Not guys named Carson Palmer..

    You do realize that there is no game planning going on right now right? You do realize that they are just calling plays and seeing what happens. You do realize that Carson Palmer doesn’t give a flying F*(k if a pass that he is experimenting with (SINCE THIS IS PRACTICE)gets deflected, or misses its mark, or *gasp* gets INTERCEPTED…Heaven forbid! Do you go nuts when you shank one or two or three when you are PRACTICING on the Driving Range at the course? Or you miss 7 out of 10 jumpers from 3 point range at PRACTICE?? No, you don’t you keep on practicing because when it’s time to get it on, and live bullets are flying…you make those Shots, you execute that draw, and you complete that pass…Practice is what we do in order to get rid of the anxiety of actually doing it when we have to, so we can execute like we need to.

  288. guest123 Says:

    I hope they play this game to win it. Preseason games count for nothing, I know. But we have 2 straight losses and we need to prove to ourselves that we can impose will to make the “W” happen. It’s got to be a feeling the guys all get used to. Instead of just hoping the key flips the ingnition in game one, we need to establish some continuity of success. Some SWAGGER even.

  289. RaiderSam Says:

    Guest123 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 7:15 am
    Better not be more dink and dunk stuff from Knapp on Saturday night…or I’ll be very very worried about the Raiders, until DA strips his playcalling duties like Cable did.

    ============================

    Fortunately, Al Saunders is still on the staff and could be a fall back….this is a run first deal, but McFadden is not necessarily the Arian Foster/Matt Forte that you need.
    This falls back on Palmer being able to manage without turnovers in a young receiving corps…with no TE on top of it. Key is Reece being a check down back, and SOME WR stepping up – thank God that Streater guy came along – hopefully, he is the real deal and can put up 50 receptions are so.

  290. The Big Banana Says:

    MikieG, LOL! Excellent post! You should come in here more often to bat down the Debbie downers in here.

  291. RaiderSam Says:

    MikieG Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 7:42 am
    THANK YOU JERRY!

    I swear to almighty Zeus some of you guys on here have more anxiety than a spring rabbit. I live in Illinois so I can’t watch these preseason games till they get replayed on NFL Network. However, I come on here to try and glean some information from some of the best fans in football and all I read about is that Carson sucks and we can’t score, and he is missing all these throws and is inaccurate as hell etc. etc..

    Then I actually watch the games and I cannot believe some of you guys are actually crapping your diapers over this guy. Do you not know what PRESEASON FOOTBALL IS?? Do you not know that this is nothing more than a scrimmage with our sweet looking uniforms on? Nothing more than a dress rehearsal for what the PROCESS of the game is going to be like–Which is especially Valuable for the new guys…Not guys named Carson Palmer..

    =================

    I think the point is Palmer has a history of picks and it could continue as the offense struggles and he determined to do too much. Leinart looked better in it, but is injury prone, and Pryor hasn’t a clue at this point.

    With cap problems tied into still high salaried players, this is a reboot year (Palmer had the playoff line just to keep the confidence up)

  292. TxRaider210 Says:

    theghostronin79 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 7:41 am
    ——————
    Yeah I wished this game wasn’t the Lions too, sometimes they just play dirty. I’m hoping the Raiders are even more physical on D and in Staffords face a lot, Megatron is another story.

    ========

    That would be fantastic. Somebody needs to punch them in the mouth; make a statement…. Show them what a bully beat down is all about.

    —————————–
    I think the D will bring more intensity since it’s a home game, would like to see Schmitt and Gordon leveling their defenders with blocks though. I say run the ball right at Suh all game to tire him out.

  293. theghostronin79 Says:

    I kinda feel a bit of swagger from the 1st team D…. That’s important.

  294. TxRaider210 Says:

    @291

    This is not a reboot year at all, the division is wide open and up for grabs. No reason at all to think CP won’t play better this year than last, with a full camp under his belt.

  295. TxRaider210 Says:

    theghostronin79 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 7:49 am
    I kinda feel a bit of swagger from the 1st team D…. That’s important.

    —————
    Yep I think Wheeler, Tollefson, Houston and Kelly are ready to raise hell this year for QB’s.

  296. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Detroit will be great team to see how far our defense has progressed.

  297. guest123 Says:

    No doubt that look on the defense has lots of swagger. But can they maintain the drive, focus, and intensity over an entire game? Last year, the defense had some good halves of play mixed with bad ones. I hope preseason game #3 they let them simulate a regular season game and find out what the defense is made of. It’s kind of hard to believe in the evaluation based on a half of football.

  298. The Big Banana Says:

    Seahawks cheerleader Karissa. YUM!!!

  299. TxRaider210 Says:

    I just hope the coaches play this game an eye for an eye. Any cheap or late shots from Lions players, the next series one of their guys gets whopped(within rules)

  300. hwnrdr Says:

    666, you’re gonna be there? Are you tailgating?

  301. TxRaider210 Says:

    The Big Banana Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 7:56 am
    Seahawks cheerleader Karissa. YUM!!!

    ——————–
    Yessir, Jacqueline and Amber lookin’ nice also!

  302. guest123 Says:

    Tx, I hear you man, but I disagree.

    The Lions are a great offense and good defense and should be better than they are. But they remind me of what the Raiders have been struggling with the last decade. Discipline. They won’t get anywhere because they will shoot themselves in the foot with their reckless ways. They are a group of characters who lack character. Everything the opposite THE REGGIE is building here. We’re not there yet either, but we are getting back to sound disciplined basics and will watch other teams fall apart by themselves and win at their expense. So I don’t see any eye-for-an-eye stuff. Just smart winning football.

  303. MikieG Says:

    I think the point is Palmer has a history of picks and it could continue as the offense struggles and he determined to do too much. Leinart looked better in it, but is injury prone, and Pryor hasn’t a clue at this point.

    With cap problems tied into still high salaried players, this is a reboot year (Palmer had the playoff line just to keep the confidence up)
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    The picks that he throws, even in regular season games, are not any worse than what other QB’s around the league throw. The Arizona Cardinals would LOVE to have Carson Palmer starting for them…along with about 20 other teams around the league. Carson Palmer is fine…

    His receivers on the other hand—Except for Streator–have to be spoonfed the ball. I don’t know what is up with DHB, but I swear to almighty Odin, that dude needs to start catching the ball with his GODD@MN HANDS and quit trapping the ball with his chest/neck. He had a PERFECT pass thrown to him by Carson for a would be 1st touchdown, you couldn’t throw it any better than that. Had DHB actually EXTENDED those two things called ARMS and used those other 2 things called HANDS with those 10 other strange things called FINGERS he would have separated himself from the defender enough to make the catch..Instead he performed the DEFINITION of Alligator Arms, and tried his trap crap and it bounced off his neck like a brick off the backboard. I could rattle off a list of about 30 WR’s who would have made that catch. Why is Streator so good? He catches with his hands.
    Also, Jacoby has looked even WORSE–I don’t even want to get started on him because he hasn’t shown me anything in a long time, but I think he needs to spend a little less time at the Club and wanting to go to the Club and tweeting about it..and more time getting his head out of his A$$ and showing some awareness on the field…

    Perhaps if some of these things happen Carson won’t look so “terrible”

  304. TxRaider210 Says:

    guest123 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 8:02 am
    Tx, I hear you man, but I disagree.

    The Lions are a great offense and good defense and should be better than they are. But they remind me of what the Raiders have been struggling with the last decade. Discipline. They won’t get anywhere because they will shoot themselves in the foot with their reckless ways. They are a group of characters who lack character. Everything the opposite THE REGGIE is building here. We’re not there yet either, but we are getting back to sound disciplined basics and will watch other teams fall apart by themselves and win at their expense. So I don’t see any eye-for-an-eye stuff. Just smart winning football.

    ——————-
    Yeah man I see your point, I wouldn’t want our guys hitting dirty, but the Witten hit was clean. All I know is if Suh takes anymore cheap shots, he should be banned from the league.

  305. TxRaider210 Says:

    MikieG Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 8:03 am
    I think the point is Palmer has a history of picks and it could continue as the offense struggles and he determined to do too much. Leinart looked better in it, but is injury prone, and Pryor hasn’t a clue at this point.

    With cap problems tied into still high salaried players, this is a reboot year (Palmer had the playoff line just to keep the confidence up)
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    The picks that he throws, even in regular season games, are not any worse than what other QB’s around the league throw. The Arizona Cardinals would LOVE to have Carson Palmer starting for them…along with about 20 other teams around the league. Carson Palmer is fine…

    His receivers on the other hand—Except for Streator–have to be spoonfed the ball. I don’t know what is up with DHB, but I swear to almighty Odin, that dude needs to start catching the ball with his GODD@MN HANDS and quit trapping the ball with his chest/neck. He had a PERFECT pass thrown to him by Carson for a would be 1st touchdown, you couldn’t throw it any better than that. Had DHB actually EXTENDED those two things called ARMS and used those other 2 things called HANDS with those 10 other strange things called FINGERS he would have separated himself from the defender enough to make the catch..Instead he performed the DEFINITION of Alligator Arms, and tried his trap crap and it bounced off his neck like a brick off the backboard. I could rattle off a list of about 30 WR’s who would have made that catch. Why is Streator so good? He catches with his hands.
    Also, Jacoby has looked even WORSE–I don’t even want to get started on him because he hasn’t shown me anything in a long time, but I think he needs to spend a little less time at the Club and wanting to go to the Club and tweeting about it..and more time getting his head out of his A$$ and showing some awareness on the field…

    Perhaps if some of these things happen Carson won’t look so “terrible”

    ————————-
    Agreed, nice post! If smurf12 isn’t healthy by week one, I say cut the guy and give his job to someone who isn’t a club-rat.

  306. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    was there a post hoping not to play the lions? Calling them dirty and cheaters? Wtf? The raiders used to be that team and so were the fans…the attitude is changing around here to a niner tude….

  307. guest123 Says:

    Agree that receivers group as a whole is a valid concern. We really don’t know what we have going into the season. It does have a lot of potential, but there’s that dreaded “P” word again.

    However, it goes without saying any number of teams would love to have a Carson Palmer. That’s not the issue here being discussed. The issue is whether or not Carson can adapt to Knapp’s version of the WCO at this stage of his career. Can an old dog learn new tricks? That is a very good and valid question and it shouldn’t be clouded in indiscriminate CP3 worship.

  308. TxRaider210 Says:

    Al_is_theraiders Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 8:08 am
    was there a post hoping not to play the lions? Calling them dirty and cheaters? Wtf? The raiders used to be that team and so were the fans…the attitude is changing around here to a niner tude….

    ————————
    The fans can cheat to help the team in any way dumazz! Go back to your SF blog debbie downer!

  309. ddwight Says:

    26.Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 21st, 2012 at 5:43 pm
    Palmer is still better than Jay Schroeder.

    He’s also better than: Donald Hollas, Rick Mirer,Andre Walter, Aaron Brooks, Kyle Boller, Billy Joe Hobert, wow thats saying a lot!!!

    Let me tell you our whole year is gonna depend on how this guy plays, because I believe the rest of the team will be good enough to make the playoffs. Im not sure about Palmer, he could be washed up.

  310. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    a guy from texas please…

  311. guest123 Says:

    The old dirty cheating ways went the way of Al Davis RIP. Whether you want to blame Goodell or the mass marketing to a new core of demographics who want skill position players uniforms clean, the old ways are dead now. It’s time to wake up from that Al Davis coma and smell the ooffee. It’s a new ERA of EXCELLENCE Baby!

  312. TxRaider210 Says:

    Al_is_theraiders Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 8:12 am
    a guy from texas please…

    ——————
    Just sport your white-jumpsuit dude and think about the good ole days, please…..

  313. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Let me tell you our whole year is gonna depend on how this guy plays, because I believe the rest of the team will be good enough to make the playoffs. Im not sure about Palmer, he could be washed up.
    ——
    Klas disagrees. Our whole season depends on the health of DMac.

  314. raidertbone Says:

    I was excited about Jacoby when he first came in — dude was explosive. He proved it on a number of returns. However, he is very one-dimensional. Anybody ever remember Dante Hall for Kansas City? He was explosive as a returner, but when they tried to also package him as a receiver – failure. If #12 can’t return kicks kite he used to, he’s not really of much value. And I agree with TX about how DHB has been “alligator arming” the ball — my only guess is that he’s preparing to get poned as soon as he makes the catch, so he’s trying to secure the ball quick. Use your hands man – all the great receivers do!

  315. guest123 Says:

    Raider Nation is everywhere. And it is much stronger than Bay Area and locals can imagine. I’ve been everywhere, man…like the Johnny Cash song. If you haven’t then you don’t know how far and wide the reach of the NATION# goes.

  316. raidertbone Says:

    You got the Nation active over here in Washington, D.C., baby!

  317. hwnrdr Says:

    guest123 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 8:15 am
    Raider Nation is everywhere. And it is much stronger than Bay Area and locals can imagine. I’ve been everywhere, man…like the Johnny Cash song. If you haven’t then you don’t know how far and wide the reach of the NATION# goes.

    I’ve been around the world and I-I-I
    Can’t see nothing but Silver and Black!

  318. TxRaider210 Says:

    guest123 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 8:15 am
    Raider Nation is everywhere. And it is much stronger than Bay Area and locals can imagine. I’ve been everywhere, man…like the Johnny Cash song. If you haven’t then you don’t know how far and wide the reach of the NATION# goes.

    ————————
    Just ask Klas, reppin’ the Nation and holding it down Swedish style!

  319. TxRaider210 Says:

    Can’t wait for some insults about how I can’t be a true fan since I live in Texas.lmao

  320. raidertbone Says:

    Sometime soon we’ll just have to do a role call and see what cities/states/countries we got all up in here …

  321. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    its one thing to be optimistic, another thing to be blind with a short memory. The Krapp experiment was been tried before and failed badly, they arent starting too hot thissecond time. The team has players they can win with but Krapp is their biggest obstacle.

  322. hwnrdr Says:

    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 8:18 am
    Can’t wait for some insults about how I can’t be a true fan since I live in Texas.lmao

    Hey, I was born and raised in Hawaii who lucked out and moved here in teh East Bay…been repping The Nation a very long time! Across 2400 miles of water!

  323. TxRaider210 Says:

    320

    Sounds like a good idea, Alamo city in the hizzouse!lol

  324. raidertbone Says:

    Hey TX:
    I know plenty of people in Texas who absolutely HATE the Cowboys. One of my friends who lives outside of Dallas even keep Jerry Jones toilet paper in his crapper – sweet!

  325. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Al_is_theraiders Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 8:12 am
    a guy from texas please…
    ——
    Now that MR is on board with new Raiders, this must be his new troll handle. Poking fun at the Al loyalists.

  326. TxRaider210 Says:

    hwnrdr Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 8:19 am
    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 8:18 am
    Can’t wait for some insults about how I can’t be a true fan since I live in Texas.lmao

    Hey, I was born and raised in Hawaii who lucked out and moved here in teh East Bay…been repping The Nation a very long time! Across 2400 miles of water!

    ——————
    That’s what I’m talkin’ about, just why the team says they have the Best fans in the World!

  327. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Ostersund, Sweden representing Raider Nation!

  328. MikieG Says:

    guest123 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 8:09 am

    Can an old dog learn new tricks? That is a very good and valid question and it shouldn’t be clouded in indiscriminate CP3 worship.
    ++++++++++++

    Indiscriminate CP3 worship?? Are you kidding me? Can an old dog learn new tricks?? Seriously?? He is the best QB we have had on the Raiders in a decade, he is the second best player on our entire team and your talking about Indiscriminate CP3 worship?? Adapt to the West Coast Offense? Im sorry but the short to intermediate passes, some shots down the field along with a moving pocket and a few rollouts and bootlegs don’t seem like the kind of thing that is going to stump a veteran like CP3 who HAS done these things before….I mean, were not talking about T. Pryor here–who has shown literally nothing.

  329. raidertbone Says:

    Just remember, there is only one NATION — all others are just pretenders.

  330. hwnrdr Says:

    Tx, 326…
    That we do bro!

  331. TxRaider210 Says:

    raidertbone Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 8:20 am
    Hey TX:
    I know plenty of people in Texas who absolutely HATE the Cowboys. One of my friends who lives outside of Dallas even keep Jerry Jones toilet paper in his crapper – sweet!

    ——————-

    Oh yeah man, the true fans from old are even turning on them, using names like Romo-sexual.lmao The only ones I see here are the 90’s bandwagoners that won’t jump off.

  332. hwnrdr Says:

    Ok, I’ll play along…
    I know now I’m a season ticket holder, but birth town…
    Wai’anae, HI…REPRESENT!!!

  333. TxRaider210 Says:

    hwnrdr Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 8:22 am
    Tx, 326…
    That we do bro!

    —————–
    YYeeaaauuhh! Over/under on how many more posters pee in the kool-aid?

  334. raidertbone Says:

    CP3 is simply testing out what he has — he has several free opportunities to do it, so why not? If the timing is off, so be it. We haven’t seen D. Moore yet and we’ve already seen enough of Streater to think that he may be okay. If Moore comes back strong, Streater keeps doing his thing, and DHB starts actually catching the ball again like he did last year, we should be okay. As long as DMac is healthy, Palmer will have a decent check down alternative, as well (In addition to Reece).

  335. hwnrdr Says:

    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 8:25 am
    hwnrdr Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 8:22 am
    Tx, 326…
    That we do bro!

    —————–
    YYeeaaauuhh! Over/under on how many more posters pee in the kool-aid?

    Anyone can pee in the kool-aid…with the silver and black flowing, it will bounce off!

  336. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Cowboys won’t win another Super Bowl anytime soon. Jerry Jones is the new Al Davis. His ego gets in the way.

  337. hwnrdr Says:

    raidertbone Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 8:25 am
    CP3 is simply testing out what he has — he has several free opportunities to do it, so why not? If the timing is off, so be it. We haven’t seen D. Moore yet and we’ve already seen enough of Streater to think that he may be okay. If Moore comes back strong, Streater keeps doing his thing, and DHB starts actually catching the ball again like he did last year, we should be okay. As long as DMac is healthy, Palmer will have a decent check down alternative, as well (In addition to Reece).

    Good Analysis!

  338. guest123 Says:

    hwnrdr Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 8:24 am
    Ok, I’ll play along…
    I know now I’m a season ticket holder, but birth town…
    Wai’anae, HI…REPRESENT!!!
    ********

    Modesto, CA Represent the 209!

    but now live out in FL

  339. TxRaider210 Says:

    hwnrdr Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 8:26 am
    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 8:25 am
    hwnrdr Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 8:22 am
    Tx, 326…
    That we do bro!

    —————–
    YYeeaaauuhh! Over/under on how many more posters pee in the kool-aid?

    Anyone can pee in the kool-aid…with the silver and black flowing, it will bounce off!

    ——————
    LOL I wonder how the Al loyalist would have liked Asante Samuel covering Megatron this weekend, anyone else think Al would have signed him, just due to his name?

  340. TxRaider210 Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 8:26 am
    Cowboys won’t win another Super Bowl anytime soon. Jerry Jones is the new Al Davis. His ego gets in the way.

    ———————
    You are correct Klas, been tellin’ the fans that for years, now they finally see it a bit.

  341. raidertbone Says:

    Jerry Jones is NOTHING like Al Davis was! Al knew football inside and out. Al gave people opportunities – he was a groundbreaker and a maverick. Jerry is just a former college player (and not even a GOOD one) who is a very rich man and very full of himself. He always has to be on the sidelines and in front of the cameras – Al didn’t give a crap about that – he just wanted his team to win. The only real similarity is that both he and Al were the GMs of their clubs in addition to being the owner. Oh, and Jerry did build the Jones Mahal!

  342. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Laker Nation baby!

  343. TxRaider210 Says:

    raidertbone Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 8:30 am
    Jerry Jones is NOTHING like Al Davis was! Al knew football inside and out. Al gave people opportunities – he was a groundbreaker and a maverick. Jerry is just a former college player (and not even a GOOD one) who is a very rich man and very full of himself. He always has to be on the sidelines and in front of the cameras – Al didn’t give a crap about that – he just wanted his team to win. The only real similarity is that both he and Al were the GMs of their clubs in addition to being the owner. Oh, and Jerry did build the Jones Mahal!

    ————————
    The comparison is the fact that they both would be too involved in the schematics of the game, neither would hire a good GM also.

  344. raidertbone Says:

    Laker Nation? Please!! – everybody claims to be a Lakers fan (or a Heat fan, lately).

  345. hwnrdr Says:

    raidertbone Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 8:33 am
    Laker Nation? Please!! – everybody claims to be a Lakers fan (or a Heat fan, lately).

    Sorry, I am one…been one since Magic in 79, but I don’t put Nation after anything else except Raider!

  346. raidertbone Says:

    You would never see Al on the sideline, barking into his coach’s ear during a game. Also, I always love the camera shots up in the owner’s box, showing Jerry when the Cowboys f-up … those are absolutely priceless!

  347. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    When does Lakers camp begin? #TheNation

  348. raidertbone Says:

    Hwnrdr:
    True. You get a pass. Anytime I see someone put “Nation” after something (other than Raiders) I simply think “bandwagon”.

  349. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    They used to show Al in the booth every game when Raiders did bad. They stopped in recent years due to his health probably.

  350. SR Raider Says:

    San Ramon, CA over here. Hence the SR. Also spent some time in Stockholm playing for KTH Osquars in case Klas has heard of them

  351. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    There are other sports nations. But, Raiders were the first and the best.

  352. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    I have seen the Osquars on TV.

  353. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Good Morning Nation..

  354. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Klas is out. Have to read Game of Thrones book. It is almost like reading my autobiography.

  355. SR Raider Says:

    Sioux nation and Navajo nation came long before the Raider nation. But in sports, there is only one. The rest are a feeble attempt to like us

  356. hwnrdr Says:

    SR Raider Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 8:41 am
    San Ramon, CA over here. Hence the SR. Also spent some time in Stockholm playing for KTH Osquars in case Klas has heard of them

    That is where i work now, in San Ramon!

  357. The Big Banana Says:

    Carter signed yet?

  358. Suspect J Says:

    I’m going to the game on Saturday. Gonna rock my throwback Marcus Allen jersey and tailgate my ass off. CHEESEBURGERS AND BEERS BOYS! Lets not forget three quarters of starter football. YEAH!

  359. Suspect J Says:

    Carter could be a good pick up. Just have him in on third downs so he can rush the passer. Just think hes a situational guy though. We need another running back! Goodson is not going to cut it. Jones just seems to be hurt all the time.

  360. raidertbone Says:

    Going to be checking the waiver wire for running backs, for sure.

  361. SR Raider Says:

    I hear ya Suspect. Saturday is preseason for tailgating. Gotta make sure the BBQ is in good order and the beer is ready. The Monday night opener is going to be nuts

  362. TxRaider210 Says:

    Later Klas, roc it like a Swede!

  363. hwnrdr Says:

    I think Carter is visiting the Rams today. Injury could be a major concern, which is why The Pats haven’t sign him yet!

  364. RaiderDuck Says:

    The Big Banana Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 8:52 am
    Carter signed yet?

    =========================================

    Nothing so far. Two possibilities:

    1) The workout didn’t go well, or

    2) Reggie offered an incentive-heavy veteran minimum deal and Carter’s thinking it over.

  365. Suspect J Says:

    I wish I could go to the Monday Night opener but I have to work. But ill be reppin on the couch at home watch lil Phil getting sacked plenty of times. LOL!

  366. DJ Johnny Says:

    318.TxRaider210 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 8:17 am
    guest123 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 8:15 am
    Raider Nation is everywhere. And it is much stronger than Bay Area and locals can imagine. I’ve been everywhere, man…like the Johnny Cash song. If you haven’t then you don’t know how far and wide the reach of the NATION# goes.

    ————————
    Just ask Klas, reppin’ the Nation and holding it down Swedish style!

    I live in the midwest. Driving home last nite i was behind a older model white Corolla with an Oakland Raiders license plate frame. There’s a big truck always in our parking lot at work with a HUGE Raider logo on his back window…

    Outside of Bears and Packers stuff I see Raiders stickers etc. most often which is strange when u think that this is a Cali team and we’re out here…you do see some Steelers stickers though.

    Raiders start winning again and you’ll see tons of people jump onboard i’m sure.

  367. TxRaider210 Says:

    hwnrdr Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 8:59 am
    I think Carter is visiting the Rams today. Injury could be a major concern, which is why The Pats haven’t sign him yet!

    ——————–
    Yep, I’m sure Bellicheat knows something that he isn’t sharing, why let a 10 sack guy go?

  368. Suspect J Says:

    Only have tickets to the Jags game in OCT. Looking for those deals whenever they pop up.

  369. TxRaider210 Says:

    Off to lunch, will return shortly gents

  370. R8ER MIKE Says:

    GOOD AFTERNOON NATION !!!
    and my GreenParty brothers !!!

  371. DJ Johnny Says:

    I was hoping this Carter thing would work out.

    I don’t think i’ts gonna happen now with him going to Rams for a workout.

  372. RaiderDuck Says:

    Hwnrdr Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 8:59 am
    I think Carter is visiting the Rams today. Injury could be a major concern, which is why The Pats haven’t sign him yet!

    ==========================================

    Or maybe Carter’s waiting to see if the Rams offer him more. Reggie won’t overpay, but you can’t blame Carter for seeing if St. Louis will.

  373. hwnrdr Says:

    Wassup Mike?

  374. hwnrdr Says:

    That is true, Duck!

  375. Suspect J Says:

    Because the 10 sack guy is hurt seriously and he knows it. This guy is trying to be like BILL Walsh trading back in the draft so he can pick up quality starters and not any superstars in the first round.

    Will all witness the fall of the PATS as soon as Brady retires. Brady is the only reason why Bilicheat looks so good!

    The same situation was witnessed last year when Peyton was down.

    Before Peyton went down. The so called draft experts were calling Bill Polian of the COLTS a DRAFT GURU! But the true colors of the team showed when there best player ws down for the season!

  376. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    The Rams called to schedule a workout with Carter.

  377. DJ Johnny Says:

    197.TxRaider210 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 5:46 am
    Cedric Benson is going to get mauled tomorrow by Bungel’s D.

    I don’t know. If there’s one thing Benson has been good at it’s revenge games.

    He tore up the Bears defense after they traded him ina game at Cincy..had like 170+ yds.

    Seems like when he really tries and is motivated he’s done ok.

    Trouble has been him giving 110% all the time.

  378. RaiderDebo Says:

    MikieG Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 8:03 am

    The picks that he throws, even in regular season games, are not any worse than what other QB’s around the league throw. The Arizona Cardinals would LOVE to have Carson Palmer starting for them…along with about 20 other teams around the league. Carson Palmer is fine…

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Really?? The pick against Arizona may be the worst pick in the history of the NFL. Unfortunately, a Raider has the worst one: Charlie Frye’s duck (not tipped) at Denver in 2009. Arizona is the only team in the league that MIGHT want Palmer as the starter IMO. Please name your other 19. This should be good.

  379. Marks hair Says:

    Yeah.. sounds like we lowballed carter.. kinda need that guy..

  380. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    359.Suspect J Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 8:55 am
    Carter could be a good pick up. Just have him in on third downs so he can rush the passer. Just think hes a situational guy though. We need another running back! Goodson is not going to cut it. Jones just seems to be hurt all the time.

    ——————————————————

    I agree! We need another RB on this team. DMAC is a TOP 10 RB in the NFL when he is on the field. However, I think Reggie does not want to over spend for an older back. I think he knows he can get a reliable back when teams cut down for a reasonable price.

  381. TxRaider210 Says:

    DJ Johnny Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 9:09 am
    197.TxRaider210 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 5:46 am
    Cedric Benson is going to get mauled tomorrow by Bungel’s D.

    I don’t know. If there’s one thing Benson has been good at it’s revenge games.

    He tore up the Bears defense after they traded him ina game at Cincy..had like 170+ yds.

    Seems like when he really tries and is motivated he’s done ok.

    Trouble has been him giving 110% all the time.

    ————————
    Yeah he may have a good game, I just hope he gets clobbered for runnin’ game, best bet the Cincy D wants to hit that guy.

  382. DJ Johnny Says:

    My main worry about MNF is us starting TWO rookies at wideout.

    We HAVE to see more from Criner this week I think against Detroit.

    If he doesn’t start it appears he’ll get significant playing time regardless due to the injuries.

  383. Suspect J Says:

    Benson is just trying to get a ring. Thats all.

    He’s just going to be a glorified pass protector for Rodgers! Once he fails at doing his primary job which is pass protecting the team will probably cut him and put someone in there who will block for Rodgers and not complain about his carries.

  384. Marks hair Says:

    Pats offered 1 yr. Carter wants a multi yr deal. Reg seems cheap so i think we’re out..

  385. KoolKell Says:

    Police: Man shot at Raiders-Cardinals game was Raiders fan wearing face paint

    OAKLAND — An Oakland Raiders fan was shot in the face by an Arizona Cardinals fan in a parking lot outside the teams’ preseason football game in Glendale, Ariz., on Friday night, police said. It isn’t known whether the shooting involved a fan dispute.

    The 30-year-old Raiders fan was wearing silver face paint when he was shot, Glendale police said Tuesday, but it’s unclear why the 57-year-old Cardinals fan, at the game with his wife, shot him.
    “There has been absolutely no information obtained by investigators that would point to a specific conflict” between the two men over their team allegiances, Glendale police said in a statement. The shooting happened during the middle of the third quarter of the game.

    The shooter had called 911 and told police the shooting was accidental. He has not been arrested, and officers continue to investigate, police said. A verbal skirmish preceded the shooting in the nearly empty parking lot, police said.
    “What we can tell you is that there was not enough compelling evidence gathered on scene, through statements or physical evidence, to make the investigators comfortable with an arrest on the 57-year-old male,” police said.
    The Cardinals couple had been watching the game and left before it ended, police said. It was unclear whether the Raiders fan, who is in stable condition, had been in the stadium at any point.

    Both the shooter and victim are Arizona residents, police said.

  386. raidertbone Says:

    Out Nation! Back in later …

  387. TxRaider210 Says:

    Later Tbone!

  388. TxRaider210 Says:

    Suspect J Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 9:14 am
    Benson is just trying to get a ring. Thats all.

    He’s just going to be a glorified pass protector for Rodgers! Once he fails at doing his primary job which is pass protecting the team will probably cut him and put someone in there who will block for Rodgers and not complain about his carries.

    ————————-

    I just want to see the ex Raider THoward blow Benson up a few times.

  389. theghostronin79 Says:

    I think Carter is visiting the Rams today. Injury could be a major concern, which is why The Pats haven’t sign him yet!

    ==============

    That’s the main thing that gets me….. It’s my biggest reservation about him.

  390. The Big Banana Says:

    RaiderDebo Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 9:11 am
    MikieG Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 8:03 am

    The picks that he throws, even in regular season games, are not any worse than what other QB’s around the league throw. The Arizona Cardinals would LOVE to have Carson Palmer starting for them…along with about 20 other teams around the league. Carson Palmer is fine…

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Really?? The pick against Arizona may be the worst pick in the history of the NFL. Unfortunately, a Raider has the worst one: Charlie Frye’s duck (not tipped) at Denver in 2009. Arizona is the only team in the league that MIGHT want Palmer as the starter IMO. Please name your other 19. This should be good.

    ———–

    So Soup’s pick to 325 pound Vince Wilfork in last year’s shall lacking by the Pats doesn’t make the list? Or how about his throw direct to the Pats safety Chung with no Raider in the area in the very same game? Those don’t make the list, eh? Instead you cherry pick an Int thrown in the preseason. Laughable. Keep pushing your agenda.

  391. The Big Banana Says:

    *Shellacking. Dam thing constantly changing my words.

  392. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    You should be concerned about Palmer’s INTs!!!!!!

    He loves to chuck that ball up way to much. He needs to learn how to portect the ball better and stop forcing passes.

    This has not been an issue since just last year. He would force passes in Cincy as well. It was one of the main concerns I had when we signed the guy.

    On the flipside he will gamble and make a throw that jsut blows you away but for every pretty deep ball it will cost you about two INTs.

  393. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    390.The Big Banana Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 9:19 am
    RaiderDebo Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 9:11 am
    MikieG Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 8:03 am

    The picks that he throws, even in regular season games, are not any worse than what other QB’s around the league throw. The Arizona Cardinals would LOVE to have Carson Palmer starting for them…along with about 20 other teams around the league. Carson Palmer is fine…

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Really?? The pick against Arizona may be the worst pick in the history of the NFL. Unfortunately, a Raider has the worst one: Charlie Frye’s duck (not tipped) at Denver in 2009. Arizona is the only team in the league that MIGHT want Palmer as the starter IMO. Please name your other 19. This should be good.

    ———–

    So Soup’s pick to 325 pound Vince Wilfork in last year’s shall lacking by the Pats doesn’t make the list? Or how about his throw direct to the Pats safety Chung with no Raider in the area in the very same game? Those don’t make the list, eh? Instead you cherry pick an Int thrown in the preseason. Laughable. Keep pushing your agenda.

    ————–
    Argue all you want but the #s never lie. Bottom line Palmer needs to make better decisions with the ball. He is capable of protecting the ball better. Especially when DMAC is breaking off Plus 7 yards a pop! That is not the time to throw a deep pass INT. Control the clock and walk the ball down the field.

  394. The Big Banana Says:

    @392 – nobody said I wasn’t concerned, but to say the Az pick was about the worst on NFL history is absolutely assinine. Dont twist it around on me.

  395. hwnrdr Says:

    Wasn’t it said that Steeler fans and Ravens fans were happy that Palmer were out of their division? With Ed Reed and Ploomalu in that division, I think they were more worried about losing to this guy than the pics he throws. Still, yes, it has to stop, but the one in AZ last Friday was not the worst pick in the history of teh NFL. Not even close…

  396. Marks hair Says:

    Watching us so far, we could really use a speed rushing end. Carter has 76 sacks. Out bid them reg..

  397. TxRaider210 Says:

    Argue all you want but the #s never lie. Bottom line Palmer needs to make better decisions with the ball. He is capable of protecting the ball better. Especially when DMAC is breaking off Plus 7 yards a pop! That is not the time to throw a deep pass INT. Control the clock and walk the ball down the field.
    ——————-
    In all fairness, it is pre-season and other QB’s have taken risky attempts as well, I’ll save my concerns and questions until he plays a real game.

  398. DJ Johnny Says:

    384.Marks hair Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 9:14 am
    Pats offered 1 yr. Carter wants a multi yr deal. Reg seems cheap so i think we’re out..

    Reggie has 7 million he’s sitting on so he can’t use lack of funds as the reason.

    It’s not my money, but he’s said on a few occasions in interviews how he’s so hampered to do anything becuz of the cap.

    We could use a speed rusher on the edge and if Carter is ok health wise this makes sense to bring him on.

    I guess he’s not?

  399. The Big Banana Says:

    What are you arguing, CJ? Follow along.

  400. TxRaider210 Says:

    The Big Banana Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 9:28 am
    @392 – nobody said I wasn’t concerned, but to say the Az pick was about the worst on NFL history is absolutely assinine. Dont twist it around on me.

    ——————
    Agreed bro, CP is easily an upgrade over what we had in Soup, I’m giving the guy a clean slate.

  401. hwnrdr Says:

    CJ, that pick against Dallas was bad considering that DMAC was ripping it up on the field. However, like Palmer and Allen have both said….preseason, especially the first one is the time to see what you got!
    And I do agree…he needs to protect the ball better and with Dmac by his side, I think it will cut back. However, Palmer is a gunslinger, just lke Favre was…INT’s will happen!

  402. DJ Johnny Says:

    378.RaiderDebo Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 9:11 am
    MikieG Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 8:03 am

    The picks that he throws, even in regular season games, are not any worse than what other QB’s around the league throw. The Arizona Cardinals would LOVE to have Carson Palmer starting for them…along with about 20 other teams around the league. Carson Palmer is fine…

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Really?? The pick against Arizona may be the worst pick in the history of the NFL. Unfortunately, a Raider has the worst one: Charlie Frye’s duck (not tipped) at Denver in 2009. Arizona is the only team in the league that MIGHT want Palmer as the starter IMO. Please name your other 19. This should be good.

    Palmer could win MVP of the SB and you would still be trying to discredit him.

    If Palmer was seen walking an old lady across the street you would claim he’s just trying to get in bed with her.

  403. TxRaider210 Says:

    402 LMAO

  404. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    397.TxRaider210 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 9:28 am
    Argue all you want but the #s never lie. Bottom line Palmer needs to make better decisions with the ball. He is capable of protecting the ball better. Especially when DMAC is breaking off Plus 7 yards a pop! That is not the time to throw a deep pass INT. Control the clock and walk the ball down the field.
    ——————-
    In all fairness, it is pre-season and other QB’s have taken risky attempts as well, I’ll save my concerns and questions until he plays a real game.

    ————————-
    In all fairness, Palmer has through his fair share of INTs during the regular season.

  405. TxRaider210 Says:

    CJ Legend 34 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 9:33 am
    397.TxRaider210 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 9:28 am
    Argue all you want but the #s never lie. Bottom line Palmer needs to make better decisions with the ball. He is capable of protecting the ball better. Especially when DMAC is breaking off Plus 7 yards a pop! That is not the time to throw a deep pass INT. Control the clock and walk the ball down the field.
    ——————-
    In all fairness, it is pre-season and other QB’s have taken risky attempts as well, I’ll save my concerns and questions until he plays a real game.

    ————————-
    In all fairness, Palmer has through his fair share of INTs during the regular season.

    —————-
    Yeah, I’d like to see any other QB last year come from nowhere and play better, without a camp or ample practice.

  406. DJ Johnny Says:

    Worst pick in NFL history? Cuz he overthrew a WR in a preseason game?

    Yeah. You are obviously pushing an agenda. That’s probably the most stupid comment I have ever heard on this blog and you have made MANY.

    That comment borders on insane.

  407. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    401.hwnrdr Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 9:30 am
    CJ, that pick against Dallas was bad considering that DMAC was ripping it up on the field. However, like Palmer and Allen have both said….preseason, especially the first one is the time to see what you got!
    And I do agree…he needs to protect the ball better and with Dmac by his side, I think it will cut back. However, Palmer is a gunslinger, just lke Favre was…INT’s will happen!

    ——————————————————–
    hwndr – That is all I am saying. I get it that it is preseason, but the reality is he does this during preseason as well. You have to live with the good and the bad with Palmer. He is a gun slinger, but sometimes we could more points on the board when you simply protectt the ball, and don’t throw INTs. We have a RB that can get you first downs on the ground and a kicker who is a weapon anywhere within the 55 yard line.

  408. Marks hair Says:

    If palmer doesnt want to work on the biggest problem in his game during the preseason fine… i hope his ballcontroll issues workout at practice.. i dont need to see him get outplayed by alex smith again..

  409. The Big Banana Says:

    DJ Johnny Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 9:36 am
    Worst pick in NFL history? Cuz he overthrew a WR in a preseason game?

    Yeah. You are obviously pushing an agenda. That’s probably the most stupid comment I have ever heard on this blog and you have made MANY.

    That comment borders on insane.

    ———

    Easily top 5 of dumbest comments ever posted in here.

  410. TxRaider210 Says:

    CJ Legend 34 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 9:37 am
    401.hwnrdr Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 9:30 am
    CJ, that pick against Dallas was bad considering that DMAC was ripping it up on the field. However, like Palmer and Allen have both said….preseason, especially the first one is the time to see what you got!
    And I do agree…he needs to protect the ball better and with Dmac by his side, I think it will cut back. However, Palmer is a gunslinger, just lke Favre was…INT’s will happen!

    ——————————————————–
    hwndr – That is all I am saying. I get it that it is preseason, but the reality is he does this during preseason as well. You have to live with the good and the bad with Palmer. He is a gun slinger, but sometimes we could more points on the board when you simply protectt the ball, and don’t throw INTs. We have a RB that can get you first downs on the ground and a kicker who is a weapon anywhere within the 55 yard line.

    ————————–
    Yeah, again we have a great RB in DMC who didn’t play a single game with CP last year.

  411. hwnrdr Says:

    CJ Legend 34 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 9:37 am
    401.hwnrdr Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 9:30 am
    CJ, that pick against Dallas was bad considering that DMAC was ripping it up on the field. However, like Palmer and Allen have both said….preseason, especially the first one is the time to see what you got!
    And I do agree…he needs to protect the ball better and with Dmac by his side, I think it will cut back. However, Palmer is a gunslinger, just lke Favre was…INT’s will happen!

    ——————————————————–
    hwndr – That is all I am saying. I get it that it is preseason, but the reality is he does this during preseason as well. You have to live with the good and the bad with Palmer. He is a gun slinger, but sometimes we could more points on the board when you simply protectt the ball, and don’t throw INTs. We have a RB that can get you first downs on the ground and a kicker who is a weapon anywhere within the 55 yard line.

    Fair enough CJ!

  412. TxRaider210 Says:

    The Big Banana Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 9:38 am
    DJ Johnny Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 9:36 am
    Worst pick in NFL history? Cuz he overthrew a WR in a preseason game?

    Yeah. You are obviously pushing an agenda. That’s probably the most stupid comment I have ever heard on this blog and you have made MANY.

    That comment borders on insane.

    ———

    Easily top 5 of dumbest comments ever posted in here.

    ————-
    Very dumb, but I’ll let ya’ll rank it since you guys have been posting longer.lmao

  413. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    405.TxRaider210 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 9:35 am
    CJ Legend 34 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 9:33 am
    397.TxRaider210 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 9:28 am
    Argue all you want but the #s never lie. Bottom line Palmer needs to make better decisions with the ball. He is capable of protecting the ball better. Especially when DMAC is breaking off Plus 7 yards a pop! That is not the time to throw a deep pass INT. Control the clock and walk the ball down the field.
    ——————-
    In all fairness, it is pre-season and other QB’s have taken risky attempts as well, I’ll save my concerns and questions until he plays a real game.

    ————————-
    In all fairness, Palmer has through his fair share of INTs during the regular season.

    —————-
    Yeah, I’d like to see any other QB last year come from nowhere and play better, without a camp or ample practice.

    ——-

    You may not find one! He did a good job coming off the couch. I hope he lights up the score board this year. Heck I would even take the probowl. But lets be honest! He still throws to many INTs at the wrong time. Skip preseason. Skip last year. I watch Cincy games all the time when he played. Palmer has had this issue forcing the ball since his season ending leg injury. He just has to eat the ball more at times. Throw it way and protect his field position.

  414. hwnrdr Says:

    Marks hair Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 9:37 am
    If palmer doesnt want to work on the biggest problem in his game during the preseason fine… i hope his ballcontroll issues workout at practice.. i dont need to see him get outplayed by alex smith again..

    When did Palmer get outplayed by Smith?

  415. RaiderDebo Says:

    The Big Banana Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 9:19 am
    RaiderDebo Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 9:11 am
    MikieG Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 8:03 am

    The picks that he throws, even in regular season games, are not any worse than what other QB’s around the league throw. The Arizona Cardinals would LOVE to have Carson Palmer starting for them…along with about 20 other teams around the league. Carson Palmer is fine…

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Really?? The pick against Arizona may be the worst pick in the history of the NFL. Unfortunately, a Raider has the worst one: Charlie Frye’s duck (not tipped) at Denver in 2009. Arizona is the only team in the league that MIGHT want Palmer as the starter IMO. Please name your other 19. This should be good.

    ———–

    So Soup’s pick to 325 pound Vince Wilfork in last year’s shall lacking by the Pats doesn’t make the list? Or how about his throw direct to the Pats safety Chung with no Raider in the area in the very same game? Those don’t make the list, eh? Instead you cherry pick an Int thrown in the preseason. Laughable. Keep pushing your agenda.

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    What’s my agenda??? And I’m still waiting for those other 19 teams.

  416. theghostronin79 Says:

    In all fairness, it is pre-season and other QB’s have taken risky attempts as well, I’ll save my concerns and questions until he plays a real game.

    ============

    Right?…….the Great Peyton Manning Threw 3 INT’s in his first two games this year also. Wooopsie

  417. TxRaider210 Says:

    CJ Legend 34 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 9:40 am
    405.TxRaider210 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 9:35 am
    CJ Legend 34 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 9:33 am
    397.TxRaider210 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 9:28 am
    Argue all you want but the #s never lie. Bottom line Palmer needs to make better decisions with the ball. He is capable of protecting the ball better. Especially when DMAC is breaking off Plus 7 yards a pop! That is not the time to throw a deep pass INT. Control the clock and walk the ball down the field.
    ——————-
    In all fairness, it is pre-season and other QB’s have taken risky attempts as well, I’ll save my concerns and questions until he plays a real game.

    ————————-
    In all fairness, Palmer has through his fair share of INTs during the regular season.

    —————-
    Yeah, I’d like to see any other QB last year come from nowhere and play better, without a camp or ample practice.

    ——-

    You may not find one! He did a good job coming off the couch. I hope he lights up the score board this year. Heck I would even take the probowl. But lets be honest! He still throws to many INTs at the wrong time. Skip preseason. Skip last year. I watch Cincy games all the time when he played. Palmer has had this issue forcing the ball since his season ending leg injury. He just has to eat the ball more at times. Throw it way and protect his field position.

    ———————
    Fair enough, everybody would agree that he does need to fix the mental errors, especially later in games. I just won’t judge yet, until I see the final product that Reg and DA put on the field.

  418. TxRaider210 Says:

    theghostronin79 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 9:42 am
    In all fairness, it is pre-season and other QB’s have taken risky attempts as well, I’ll save my concerns and questions until he plays a real game.

    ============

    Right?…….the Great Peyton Manning Threw 3 INT’s in his first two games this year also. Wooopsie

    —————–
    No kidding, most QB’s are struggling a bit at this point, much of it has to do with a vanilla play-book.imo

  419. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    399.The Big Banana Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 9:29 am
    What are you arguing, CJ? Follow along.

    ——————————
    Arguing? I don’t argue with bananas son.

    My point has been made. Palmer, simply needs to do a better job of protecting the football during any season, especially the regular one.

    By the way, that is a good thing! Follow along!

  420. Marks hair Says:

    414. Smith had like 4 ints last yr. Plus the nfc championship game.. we would have made the plaoffs too if cp3 only had 4 pics.

  421. The Big Banana Says:

    19 teams? Confused me with someone else, Debo. In the meantime, you gonna wipe that egg off your face or just leave it there?

  422. hwnrdr Says:

    Marks hair Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 9:45 am
    414. Smith had like 4 ints last yr. Plus the nfc championship game.. we would have made the plaoffs too if cp3 only had 4 pics.

    But he did take a lot of sacks and be honest now, the D on that team carry them…Alex Smith showed his true colors in that NFC Championship Game at home! Many people blame Kyle WIlliams…sh!t, Alex had MANY opportunities to score and put it away!

  423. RaiderDebo Says:

    DJ Johnny Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 9:36 am
    Worst pick in NFL history? Cuz he overthrew a WR in a preseason game?

    Yeah. You are obviously pushing an agenda. That’s probably the most stupid comment I have ever heard on this blog and you have made MANY.

    That comment borders on insane.

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Hilarious! You’re just not getting it. Watch that play 100 times and explain to me how the pass EVER gets completed! It’s not about whether he overthrew the guy, QBs have misfires all the time. It’s the DECISION!!! This is why I’m bearish on Palmer.

  424. hwnrdr Says:

    hwnrdr Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 9:48 am
    Marks hair Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 9:45 am
    414. Smith had like 4 ints last yr. Plus the nfc championship game.. we would have made the plaoffs too if cp3 only had 4 pics.

    But he did take a lot of sacks and be honest now, the D on that team carry them…Alex Smith showed his true colors in that NFC Championship Game at home! Many people blame Kyle WIlliams…sh!t, Alex had MANY opportunities to score and put it away!

    And come on now, if our D could have made just one stop … we’d be in there as well!

  425. r8eray Says:

    Head coach Dennis Allen said the team will not “baby” Darren McFadden this season.
    It’s exactly what we want to hear out of an aggressive head coach. McFadden is 100 percent healthy and has looked extremely explosive throughout camp. “I mean, [running back] is a tough position. They take some shots and that’s part of football,” Allen said. “We can’t baby him. We can’t protect him. We got to go out there and play football and give him an opportunity to carry the ball, and we hope that he’s able to stay healthy.” McFadden is overdue for some good luck on the injury front this year. His statistical ceiling is monstrous as a wildly talented three-down back.

    Source: NFL.com Aug 22 – 11:00 AM

  426. TxRaider210 Says:

    hwnrdr Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 9:48 am
    Marks hair Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 9:45 am
    414. Smith had like 4 ints last yr. Plus the nfc championship game.. we would have made the plaoffs too if cp3 only had 4 pics.

    But he did take a lot of sacks and be honest now, the D on that team carry them…Alex Smith showed his true colors in that NFC Championship Game at home! Many people blame Kyle WIlliams…sh!t, Alex had MANY opportunities to score and put it away!

    —————————-
    Harbaugh brothers both have awesome defenses on their respective teams, but neither can figure out their QB’s will never win a ring! Classic

  427. JLofty Says:

    JLofty has no concerns about CP unless you count worrying bout injury to the Raiders starting QB. Which is less than

  428. The Big Banana Says:

    CJ Legend 34 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 9:45 am
    399.The Big Banana Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 9:29 am
    What are you arguing, CJ? Follow along.

    ——————————
    Arguing? I don’t argue with bananas son.

    My point has been made. Palmer, simply needs to do a better job of protecting the football during any season, especially the regular one.

    By the way, that is a good thing! Follow along!

    ———-

    And out come the insults. Keep it classy, CJ. My point was I was pointing out the stupidity of claiming that preseason pick against AZ to be the worst in the NFL and you come at me with something else. Follow along!

  429. JLofty Says:

    …in years past cuz I think Leinert knows the o and can sub effectively.

  430. RaiderDebo Says:

    The Big Banana Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 9:47 am
    19 teams? Confused me with someone else, Debo. In the meantime, you gonna wipe that egg off your face or just leave it there?

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Someone else, I guess MikeG, said 20 teams would want Palmer as the starter. Arizona is the only possibility IMO. Maybe you agree with me. But if you agree with him, name the other 19.

  431. Marks hair Says:

    422. Maybe i dont rember that game too well.. i was drinking and smoking.. but i thought smith played really well. Bringing them back a couple time &playing clutch..

    But either way.. tournovers are the most important stat outside of wins..

  432. r8eray Says:

    I got 7 spots in Yahoo FFL…anyone?

    League name: S&W .357

    Password: 12345678

  433. hwnrdr Says:

    Marks hair Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 9:54 am
    422. Maybe i dont rember that game too well.. i was drinking and smoking.. but i thought smith played really well. Bringing them back a couple time &playing clutch..

    But either way.. tournovers are the most important stat outside of wins..

    The Saints game the week before was win he played well…SF was pretty much in the lead teh entire way in that game.
    But I hear ya Mark about the TOs!

  434. Silverandblack666 Says:

    RaiderDebbie with his certified hatred towards Carson Palmer.

    What kind of fan are you that defends JaMarcus Russell and then hates on Palmer….Not a real fan probably a 49er fan posing as a Raider fan to be an ass to everyone here.

    Take your low football IQ and your dumb country ass opinions of Palmer somewhere else.

    Palmer is our QB and to say that INT in AZ is the worst pick in the history of the NFL shows us how shallow your knowledge is of this game you TARD its preseason how can it be the worst pick ever thrown in the NFL when the game has no meaning.

    The worst pick ever thrown would be one that kept a team out of the Super Bowl or lost a Super Bowl because of a bad pick.

    Your ignorance is showing and we are all dumber for reading your poorly written post!

  435. Marks hair Says:

    My point exactly tx.. the ravens & whiners play tuff & win yhe tournover battle. Thats how they went far with qbs inferior to cp3.

  436. hwnrdr Says:

    Just a question guys…
    With MJD unhappy and The Jags and him willing to trade…what would it take to bring MJD home?

  437. KoolKell Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 9:59 am

    Your ignorance is showing and we are all dumber for reading your poorly written post!
    ————————–
    Speak for yourself.

  438. DJ Johnny Says:

    Debo,

    I agree that was a poor pass but to call it “the worst in the history of the NFL” is a ridiculous statement.

    I mean. your’e asserting it’s worse than Garo Yepremian’s hapless heave in the SB, or decision wise, Favre’s int. against N.O in the playoffs?

    When u make statements like u did it shows you have some predisposed hatred of the guy.

    As far as gravity of situation..it was meaningless. PRESEASON game. He’s taking chances…it’s PRACTICE basically.

  439. Marks hair Says:

    Im tryin to keep my ff leagues together on espn.. just faster.

  440. RaiderDuck Says:

    R8eray Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 9:57 am
    I got 7 spots in Yahoo FFL…anyone?

    League name: S&W .357

    Password: 12345678

    ==========================================

    What are the settings?

  441. TxRaider210 Says:

    Marks hair Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 9:59 am
    My point exactly tx.. the ravens & whiners play tuff & win yhe tournover battle. Thats how they went far with qbs inferior to cp3.

    —————-
    Very true man, but they also call plays based on a strong run game and D, CP had neither of those as an option last year.

  442. RaiderDebo Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 9:59 am
    RaiderDebbie with his certified hatred towards Carson Palmer.

    What kind of fan are you that defends JaMarcus Russell and then hates on Palmer….Not a real fan probably a 49er fan posing as a Raider fan to be an ass to everyone here.

    Take your low football IQ and your dumb country ass opinions of Palmer somewhere else.

    Palmer is our QB and to say that INT in AZ is the worst pick in the history of the NFL shows us how shallow your knowledge is of this game you TARD its preseason how can it be the worst pick ever thrown in the NFL when the game has no meaning.

    The worst pick ever thrown would be one that kept a team out of the Super Bowl or lost a Super Bowl because of a bad pick.

    Your ignorance is showing and we are all dumber for reading your poorly written post!

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    You are a mindless sheep Silverdmfck!!! You refuse to see the pattern in this dude’s play. If only OUR #1 pick could have received such understanding in only his 2nd year as a starter. Crazy sht.

  443. TxRaider210 Says:

    442

    The number one pick Jawalrus came in fat and out of shape, more concerned with sizzurp and fur coats, very far from the man and leader that CP is.

  444. Marks hair Says:

    Tp & branch for mjd. do it

  445. DJ Johnny Says:

    437.KoolKell Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 10:02 am
    Silverandblack666 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 9:59 am

    Your ignorance is showing and we are all dumber for reading your poorly written post!
    ————————–
    Speak for yourself.

    Are u saying you agree that Palmer’s overthrow pick against AZ was “the worst in the history of the NFL”.

    You get accolades from posters here for your football acumen. Surely you aren’t behind that bizarre assertion.

  446. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “As far as gravity of situation..it was meaningless. PRESEASON game. He’s taking chances…it’s PRACTICE basically.”

    That is pretty much what I was saying he either has an extremely low IQ or some deep seeded hatred towards Palmer. Either way he is of no significance just another fat blow hard trying to spread hate on the Raider Nation.

    Then you have KK the racist troll who has to butt into my posts like he was invited. Go take your sponge bath and down a glass of Metamucil before you crap all over your bed sores old man.

  447. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    I just don’t understand what all of the other teams QBs or QBs who are not even on the team anymore have to do with our current situation. Bottom line is Palmer needs to practice ball control and cut down on INTs.

    Preseason means absolutely nothing to me. It is just practice under live fire. I am basing my reality off of the regular season.

    Come on man!!!!!!! : )

  448. hwnrdr Says:

    Marks hair Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 10:06 am
    Tp & branch for mjd. do it

    Maybe, and a big maybe TP, but why Branch?

  449. KoolKell Says:

    Silverandumfk? Like it. Lol.

  450. TxRaider210 Says:

    Rosenhaus would want the world for MJB, Reg plays smart business, won’t happen.

  451. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    MJB is not going anywhere, he’s just trying to play hard ball!

  452. KoolKell Says:

    People clamoring for Maurice Jones Drew, need to get a clue.

  453. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “You are a mindless sheep Silverdmfck!!! You refuse to see the pattern in this dude’s play. If only OUR #1 pick could have received such understanding in only his 2nd year as a starter. Crazy sht.”

    Its preseason its practice did you not read the above posted article….sorry I forgot who I was talking to I know you cant read I have seen your warped attempt at constructing a sentence.

    So I am the dumb one because I have enough common sense to see that a pick in the preseason is not a matter of life and death.

    Keep on showing us how low your football IQ is we all need the cheap entertainment because Hard Core Pawn doesn’t come on until later tonight!

  454. hwnrdr Says:

    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 10:09 am
    Rosenhaus would want the world for MJB, Reg plays smart business, won’t happen.

    Oh goodness, Rosenhaus is his agent…oh well…

  455. Marks hair Says:

    441. True. But this is a new yr. New team.. if cp3 buys into the hit em where there not philosophy of the wco, and trusts in his playmakers, he can cut the ints and add to the win collum..

  456. Silverandblack666 Says:

    KK

    Get off the computer and do some work or I will have B@uce call your boss and get you written up.

  457. The Big Banana Says:

    Hwnrdr Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 10:01 am
    Just a question guys…
    With MJD unhappy and The Jags and him willing to trade…what would it take to bring MJD home?

    ——-

    I’d love to see it happen, bro, but don’t think it’ll happen. MJD would cost too much in both trade and salary for Big Mac’s liking. Im with you though.

  458. DutchRaider77 Says:

    Rosenhaus would want the world for MJB, Reg plays smart business, won’t happen.

    __________________________________________________

    Gotta admit I feel for MJD and support his hold-out. I do believe that a dude should honor his contract, but when he signed the dotted line it wasn’t expected he would be the WHOLE offense. There No. 1 receiver last year was Jason Hill, a 9er castoff. Teams stack the box against MJD and he still led the league in rushing.

  459. TxRaider210 Says:

    Marks hair Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 10:12 am
    441. True. But this is a new yr. New team.. if cp3 buys into the hit em where there not philosophy of the wco, and trusts in his playmakers, he can cut the ints and add to the win collum..

    ———————
    Yeah man much of CP’s success will rest on DMC and Wiz this season.imo

  460. hwnrdr Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 10:11 am
    People clamoring for Maurice Jones Drew, need to get a clue.

    LOL, come on Kell, why didn’t you just name me…
    It was a question…you wouldn’t want MJD and DMAC in the same backfield?

  461. KoolKell Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 10:11 am

    Keep on showing us how low your football IQ is we all need the cheap entertainment
    —————————-
    How many times do I have to tell you to speak for yourself, Silverandumfk

  462. DutchRaider77 Says:

    Yeah, no way we get MJD. Nice dream though…

  463. Marks hair Says:

    448. Just pulled 2 names out of a hat.

  464. Marks hair Says:

    Almost thru in seymour

  465. TxRaider210 Says:

    hwnrdr Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 10:12 am
    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 10:09 am
    Rosenhaus would want the world for MJB, Reg plays smart business, won’t happen.

    Oh goodness, Rosenhaus is his agent…oh well…

    ——————-
    Yeah no team is getting that guy, unless his greedy agent gets a summer home out of the deal, minimum.lol

  466. hwnrdr Says:

    Marks hair Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 10:15 am
    448. Just pulled 2 names out of a hat.

    Gotcha!

  467. hwnrdr Says:

    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 10:16 am
    hwnrdr Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 10:12 am
    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 10:09 am
    Rosenhaus would want the world for MJB, Reg plays smart business, won’t happen.

    Oh goodness, Rosenhaus is his agent…oh well…

    ——————-
    Yeah no team is getting that guy, unless his greedy agent gets a summer home out of the deal, minimum.lol

    LOL…how many does Rosenhaus have already?

  468. TxRaider210 Says:

    DutchRaider77 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 10:13 am
    Rosenhaus would want the world for MJB, Reg plays smart business, won’t happen.

    __________________________________________________

    Gotta admit I feel for MJD and support his hold-out. I do believe that a dude should honor his contract, but when he signed the dotted line it wasn’t expected he would be the WHOLE offense. There No. 1 receiver last year was Jason Hill, a 9er castoff. Teams stack the box against MJD and he still led the league in rushing.

    ———————
    Yeah and the same stupid owner that pissed him off agreed for his team to play 4 home games in London, what a tard!

  469. KoolKell Says:

    Hwnrdr Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 10:14 am

    KoolKell Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 10:11 am

    People clamoring for Maurice Jones Drew, need to get a clue.

    LOL, come on Kell, why didn’t you just name me…
    It was a question…you wouldn’t want MJD and DMAC in the same backfield?
    ———————————
    Not going to happen, Drew & Dmac in the same backfield doesn’t make sense on many levels including salary.

    If you wanted to go that route should have kept M Bush.

  470. r8eray Says:

    Offense League Value Yahoo! Default Value
    Passing Yards 25 yards per point
    Passing Touchdowns 6 4
    Interceptions -1
    Rushing Yards 10 yards per point
    Rushing Touchdowns 6
    Receptions 1 0
    Reception Yards 10 yards per point
    Reception Touchdowns 6
    Return Touchdowns 6
    2-Point Conversions 2
    Fumbles -1 0
    Offensive Fumble Return TD 6
    Kickers League Value Yahoo! Default Value
    Field Goals 0-19 Yards 3
    Field Goals 20-29 Yards 3
    Field Goals 30-39 Yards 3
    Field Goals 40-49 Yards 4
    Field Goals 50+ Yards 5
    Point After Attempt Made 1
    Defense/Special Teams League Value Yahoo! Default Value
    Sack 1
    Interception 2
    Fumble Recovery 2
    Touchdown 6
    Safety 2
    Block Kick 2
    Points Allowed 0 points 10
    Points Allowed 1-6 points 7
    Points Allowed 7-13 points 4
    Points Allowed 14-20 points 1
    Points Allowed 21-27 points 0
    Points Allowed 28-34 points -1
    Points Allowed 35+ points -4

  471. TxRaider210 Says:

    hwnrdr Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 10:16 am
    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 10:16 am
    hwnrdr Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 10:12 am
    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 10:09 am
    Rosenhaus would want the world for MJB, Reg plays smart business, won’t happen.

    Oh goodness, Rosenhaus is his agent…oh well…

    ——————-
    Yeah no team is getting that guy, unless his greedy agent gets a summer home out of the deal, minimum.lol

    LOL…how many does Rosenhaus have already?

    ——————–
    LOL Probably too many, dude looks like a slime-ball imo, don’t see why athletes pick him.

  472. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Did you guys ever see the episode on Hard Core Pawn where the guy in the parking lot is saying “I am smart” “I am book smart” then he turns around and runs into a concrete pillar then gets mad at the pillar and hits it.

    That’s Debo he is here trying to convince us he is smart but we all see him running into the concrete pillar and laugh our asses off about it.

  473. hwnrdr Says:

    You know I would be pissed too if 4 home games were in London. I heard some crazy thing about still paying full price for season tix. Wasn’t it last year when the Niners had their home game in London that the season tix holders were mad that they are getting charged 10 tix and only can go to 9?

  474. hwnrdr Says:

    I agree Kell…I think that is a mistake that i think Reggie wants back, considering we really have no back up for DMAC’s improbable injury. Here is hoping that DMAC plays all season!!!

  475. TxRaider210 Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 10:19 am
    Did you guys ever see the episode on Hard Core Pawn where the guy in the parking lot is saying “I am smart” “I am book smart” then he turns around and runs into a concrete pillar then gets mad at the pillar and hits it.

    That’s Debo he is here trying to convince us he is smart but we all see him running into the concrete pillar and laugh our asses off about it.

    —————-
    LMAO I saw that episode, it was pretty epic! Nice to see poeple melt down and trip over their own feet.

  476. r8eray Says:

    Beat writer Kevin Acee believes Ryan Mathews (fractured collarbone) will be held out until Week 3!

    Good news..no?

  477. hwnrdr Says:

    r8eray Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 10:22 am
    Beat writer Kevin Acee believes Ryan Mathews (fractured collarbone) will be held out until Week 3!

    Good news..no?

    LOL, I thought he said he heals fast…

  478. Silverandblack666 Says:

    KK

    Nothing is more pathetic than a senile old man like yourself begging for attention on a BLOG trying to make everything racial to get a reaction out of people.

    You remind me of the drunken homeless guy at the 7-11 begging for money and acting stupid to get attention.

  479. TxRaider210 Says:

    hwnrdr Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 10:19 am
    You know I would be pissed too if 4 home games were in London. I heard some crazy thing about still paying full price for season tix. Wasn’t it last year when the Niners had their home game in London that the season tix holders were mad that they are getting charged 10 tix and only can go to 9?

    ————————–
    That’s just crazy man, I wouldn’t want to play for that team or be a fan, may as well keep them in London.

  480. KoolKell Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 10:19 am

    That’s Debo he is here trying to convince US he is smart but WE ALL see him running into the concrete pillar and laugh OUR asses off about it.
    ——————————-
    Are you the Homecoming Queen here, Silverandumfk?

  481. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “LMAO I saw that episode, it was pretty epic! Nice to see poeple melt down and trip over their own feet.”

    I don’t know if I have ever laughed so hard in my life when I saw that.

  482. R8ER MIKE Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 10:19 am
    Did you guys ever see the episode on Hard Core Pawn where the guy in the parking lot is saying “I am smart” “I am book smart” then he turns around and runs into a concrete pillar then gets mad at the pillar and hits it.

    That’s Debo he is here trying to convince us he is smart but we all see him running into the concrete pillar and laugh our asses off about it.

    ***********************
    ???? Debo is a guy ????

  483. Marks hair Says:

    Not pleased that reg let carter out of the building.. maybe he’s asking for a ton of money…?

  484. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    We need a back up for DMAC in the worse way.

    I thought from day one Cedric Benson would have fit that role great. To bad we missed out, but I think Reggie’s Plan B will be to pick up a guy with some treds still on the tires after cuts are made.

    To many fumble fingers and muscle pulls in the RB group we have now.

    Who is still out there?

  485. TxRaider210 Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 10:24 am
    “LMAO I saw that episode, it was pretty epic! Nice to see poeple melt down and trip over their own feet.”

    I don’t know if I have ever laughed so hard in my life when I saw that.

    ————————-
    LOL Who knows, maybe we see Jawalrus in there one episode, trying to pawn his fur coats and earrings.

  486. DutchRaider77 Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 10:19 am
    Did you guys ever see the episode on Hard Core Pawn where the guy in the parking lot is saying “I am smart” “I am book smart” then he turns around and runs into a concrete pillar then gets mad at the pillar and hits it.

    That’s Debo he is here trying to convince us he is smart but we all see him running into the concrete pillar and laugh our asses off about it.

    ***********************
    ???? Debo is a guy ????

    ________________________________________________

    Wait, pre-op or post-op?

  487. TxRaider210 Says:

    Who is still out there?

    ———————
    If Goody fumbles one more time, I’m all for bringing in Ryan Grant as the back-up.

  488. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Was I talking to you KK you feces covered Metamucil addict who belongs in a convalescence home.

    Take your sponge bath and do NOT miss your meds today we all know what you can be like if you miss your meds.

    Now let the big boys talk and stay our of my conversations.

  489. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “Wait, pre-op or post-op?”

    Defiantly post op Dutch Raider

  490. KoolKell Says:

    So many people here who said Bush was a expendable, twinkle toed mfkr……….

  491. TxRaider210 Says:

    Any takers on Cadillac Williams/Ryan Grant if Goody stinks it up more?

  492. Marks hair Says:

    A rb will drop to us. The major cut is on th 31st.

  493. raidertbone Says:

    #485:
    …or a Coleman cooler full of the Drank!

  494. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “LOL Who knows, maybe we see Jawalrus in there one episode, trying to pawn his fur coats and earrings.”

    That would be a classic episode.

  495. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    Bush was a good back up.

    Could not put enough games together to be a starter.

  496. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “So many people here who said Bush was a expendable,”

    Your expendable in fact we should be talking about euthanasia in your case.

  497. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    491.TxRaider210 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 10:32 am
    Any takers on Cadillac Williams/Ryan Grant if Goody stinks it up more?

    ———————————————–

    Goody needs to sart running the ball like Tiki Barber with two hands. He looked stupid, but he stopped fumbling the ball! : )

  498. TxRaider210 Says:

    raidertbone Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 10:32 am
    #485:
    …or a Coleman cooler full of the Drank!

    ——————
    I could see him tryin’ to explain to the white folks what Drank is and what is does to a person.lol

  499. KoolKell Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 10:30 am

    Was I talking to you KK you feces covered Metamucil addict who belongs in a convalescence home.

    Take your sponge bath and do NOT miss your meds today we all know what you can be like if you miss your meds.

    Now let the big boys talk and stay our of my conversations.
    ——————————
    When dumbass wannabes like you, talk rudely to other fans, who may disagree, claiming to speak for all. I have a tendency to jump in.

  500. TxRaider210 Says:

    CJ Legend 34 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 10:35 am
    491.TxRaider210 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 10:32 am
    Any takers on Cadillac Williams/Ryan Grant if Goody stinks it up more?

    ———————————————–

    Goody needs to sart running the ball like Tiki Barber with two hands. He looked stupid, but he stopped fumbling the ball! : )

    —————–
    I hope you’re right, maybe it was a horribly bad day for Goodson, I believe in 2nd chances, no 3rds.lol

  501. DutchRaider77 Says:

    498.TxRaider210 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 10:35 am
    raidertbone Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 10:32 am
    #485:
    …or a Coleman cooler full of the Drank!

    ——————
    I could see him tryin’ to explain to the white folks what Drank is and what is does to a person.lol

    ___________________________________________________

    No, No, No…those are male fur-coats and male diamond earings.

  502. raidertbone Says:

    #498:
    “No man, it’s kinda like purple cough medicine, but it taste like a Jolly Rancher and it make you feel real good!”

  503. Marks hair Says:

    491. Im taking somebody.. jones is our scat back. Goody is sp teams or cut. Its not just the fumbles. That kid crumbles.. its like justin fargas inside dvd wearing #25..

  504. purvisman Says:

    TxRaider210 Says…If I lived in the land of Ice and Snow////////////////////Major props for the reference, Tx.

  505. TxRaider210 Says:

    DutchRaider77 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 10:37 am
    498.TxRaider210 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 10:35 am
    raidertbone Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 10:32 am
    #485:
    …or a Coleman cooler full of the Drank!

    ——————
    I could see him tryin’ to explain to the white folks what Drank is and what is does to a person.lol

    ___________________________________________________

    No, No, No…those are male fur-coats and male diamond earings.

    ——————
    I could see Walrus getting offended when the rude sister at the shop tries the earings on.lol

  506. DutchRaider77 Says:

    When dumbass wannabes like you, talk rudely to other fans, who may disagree, claiming to speak for all. I have a tendency to jump in.

    _____________________________________________

    So the Carson Palmer pick in the AZ preseason game was the worst pick in Football history? If not, you agree with 666 and he did speak for you.

  507. TxRaider210 Says:

    raidertbone Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 10:37 am
    #498:
    “No man, it’s kinda like purple cough medicine, but it taste like a Jolly Rancher and it make you feel real good!”

    ———————–
    “You ever seen them cups that Pimp C and Z-Ro held in the music videos, well guess what’s in `em”lol

  508. Marks hair Says:

    Somebody will cut someone better than goodson

  509. TxRaider210 Says:

    purvisman Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 10:38 am
    TxRaider210 Says…If I lived in the land of Ice and Snow////////////////////Major props for the reference, Tx.

    ———————-
    Are you also rockin like a Swede, with fellow Raider Klas?

  510. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “When dumbass wannabes like you, talk rudely to other fans, who may disagree, claiming to speak for all. I have a tendency to jump in.”

    I get it your board you don’t work so you need something to fill your time. Unfortunately your a dim wit who cant stand toe to toe with guy like me. So you just end up looking foolish and we all have a good laugh at your expense. like I said to Debo earlier keep it up we need some good cheap entertainment until Hard Core Pawn comes on at 7.

  511. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “Somebody will cut someone better than goodson”

    So true!

    Code Ginger!!

  512. DutchRaider77 Says:

    508.Marks hair Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 10:41 am
    Somebody will cut someone better than goodson

    ____________________________________________

    Yeah, considering Arian Foster spent a whole year on the Texans practice squad. Gotta be some diamonds out there…

  513. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “So the Carson Palmer pick in the AZ preseason game was the worst pick in Football history? If not, you agree with 666 and he did speak for you.”

    I almost spit out my coffee when I read that.

    DutchRaider with a good one!!

  514. TxRaider210 Says:

    DutchRaider77 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 10:44 am
    508.Marks hair Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 10:41 am
    Somebody will cut someone better than goodson

    ____________________________________________

    Yeah, considering Arian Foster spent a whole year on the Texans practice squad. Gotta be some diamonds out there…

    ——————-
    Very true, the Saints seem to always have depth at RB, but I’ll let the big man Reg find his guy. I’m pulling for Goody, but he makes it difficult.

  515. guest123 Says:

    Peyton Manning has issues throwing to his right.

    ESPN’s John Clayton and Matt Williamson of Scouts Inc. have both picked up on this. Per Clayton, Manning is still having problems when trying to throw to his right for more than 10 yards. It’s a reminder that Peyton has had three recent neck surgeries, is 36 years old and has shown signs of diminishing arm strength.

    ************

    Defensive coordinators everywhere are going to start doing a Manning shift like they do in baseball, loading the left side with defenders. Peyton is going down hard fellas, it’s almost over for him.

  516. TxRaider210 Says:

    guest123 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 10:51 am
    Peyton Manning has issues throwing to his right.

    ESPN’s John Clayton and Matt Williamson of Scouts Inc. have both picked up on this. Per Clayton, Manning is still having problems when trying to throw to his right for more than 10 yards. It’s a reminder that Peyton has had three recent neck surgeries, is 36 years old and has shown signs of diminishing arm strength.

    ************

    Defensive coordinators everywhere are going to start doing a Manning shift like they do in baseball, loading the left side with defenders. Peyton is going down hard fellas, it’s almost over for him.

    ————————-
    Agreed, and he still hasn’t been hit very hard, but it is sure to happen week 1.

  517. hwnrdr Says:

    I will hate to see it end that way for Peyton though! I know he is now a Donkey but…

  518. The Big Banana Says:

    Guest123 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 10:51 am
    Peyton Manning has issues throwing to his right.

    ESPN’s John Clayton and Matt Williamson of Scouts Inc. have both picked up on this. Per Clayton, Manning is still having problems when trying to throw to his right for more than 10 yards. It’s a reminder that Peyton has had three recent neck surgeries, is 36 years old and has shown signs of diminishing arm strength.

    ************

    Defensive coordinators everywhere are going to start doing a Manning shift like they do in baseball, loading the left side with defenders. Peyton is going down hard fellas, it’s almost over for him.

    ———

    This is why Denver is not as much a concern as KC.

  519. TxRaider210 Says:

    hwnrdr Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 10:53 am
    I will hate to see it end that way for Peyton though! I know he is now a Donkey but…

    ——————–
    Yeah man I respect the guy also, but he chose to come back after 3 surgeries, so he made his own bed. Now he gets to sleep in it.

  520. raidertbone Says:

    Like I said before, Manning isn’t even going to make it to the Raiders game. His O-line can’t protect him and they won’t be used to his audible shifts — a gap is gonna appear and he’ll get slaughtered. Then, we will have to face the Donkey offense led by the feared Caleb Hanie.

  521. RaiderDebo Says:

    DJ Johnny Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 10:02 am
    Debo,

    I agree that was a poor pass but to call it “the worst in the history of the NFL” is a ridiculous statement.

    I mean. your’e asserting it’s worse than Garo Yepremian’s hapless heave in the SB, or decision wise, Favre’s int. against N.O in the playoffs?

    When u make statements like u did it shows you have some predisposed hatred of the guy.

    As far as gravity of situation..it was meaningless. PRESEASON game. He’s taking chances…it’s PRACTICE basically.

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Yeah, I should have specified that the pass had to be by a QB. At least my man Garo was under pressure though. And Favre at NO??? Dude, that guy should have a statue built in Minnesota for the game he played that day, especially in light of Bountygate!!! The guy got the sht kicked out of him! And he threw that pass on the run with a busted up ankle. Crucial mistake, but Palmer’s pick was 100 times worse. Dumbsht decisions like that are why the guy is never playing in playoff games.

  522. Seymour Bush Says:

    RaiderDebo Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 9:42 am

    Really?? The pick against Arizona may be the worst pick in the history of the NFL.
    =======================================

    I don’t know, the pick that Soup threw right to the New England defender in the endzone with no pressure on him last year has to rank up there.

  523. hwnrdr Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 10:58 am
    RaiderDebo Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 9:42 am

    Really?? The pick against Arizona may be the worst pick in the history of the NFL.
    =======================================

    I don’t know, the pick that Soup threw right to the New England defender in the endzone with no pressure on him last year has to rank up there.

    That was in my endzone…as soon as let the ball go, I quickly sat down!!! It was said that DHB fell down in the corner of the end zone, but…

  524. hwnrdr Says:

    But hey, anything to make horse face look like a dummy! I’m all for it!

  525. TxRaider210 Says:

    hwnrdr Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 11:02 am
    Seymour Bush Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 10:58 am
    RaiderDebo Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 9:42 am

    Really?? The pick against Arizona may be the worst pick in the history of the NFL.
    =======================================

    I don’t know, the pick that Soup threw right to the New England defender in the endzone with no pressure on him last year has to rank up there.

    That was in my endzone…as soon as let the ball go, I quickly sat down!!! It was said that DHB fell down in the corner of the end zone, but…

    ————————-
    Either way, I doubt if it was a Raider to throw the dumbest int in NFL history, unless we count Gannon’s 5 in the SB.

  526. Silverandblack666 Says:

    ” And he threw that pass on the run with a busted up ankle.Crucial mistake, but Palmer’s pick was 100 times worse.”

    Let me try to understand your logic here….The pick that Carson Palmer threw in a meaningless preseason game is 100 times worse than the one Brett Favre threw in a NFC championship that kept his team out of the Super Bowl.

    Your a genius you should be a rocket scientist not a semi-pro blogger!

  527. raidertbone Says:

    If you’re a Tebow lover, DON’T watch this video!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?4fH8ihdEz4w&feature=related

  528. Silverandblack666 Says:

    I would say the dumbest interceptions ever thrown in an NFL game was when Neil O’Donnell threw 2 INT’s in the Super Bowl to Larry Brown.

    Not only were they boneheaded plays he threw the ball right to Larry but he basically lost the Super Bowl because of his INT’s.

    Now please tell me how an INT thrown in a meaningless preseason game is worse?

  529. KoolKell Says:

    Walter Football has Palmer listed as #22 Fantasy QB. He hasn’t gotten much respect around the NFL this year. So jumping down a fans throat over the issue is pure blog posturing and bullying.

  530. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Raider Nation needs to get tough and quit letting other teams fans shoot and stab you. I though we were the bad boyz!

  531. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Guy on ESPN radio picked Palmer to have a big year. Said he is way better than #20 QB.

  532. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Because fantasy football rankings is what the coach is looking for.

    “blog posturing and bullying”

    Have you ever seen a meeker sentence that had pathetic written all over it. You may as well say I am rubber you are glue…..then call Dr Phil to get help with the blog bullies.

  533. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    666, who is more unpopular, Kell or MR?

  534. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Raidertbone your link is not working.

    As a Teblow hater I was looking forward to it.

  535. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “666, who is more unpopular, Kell or MR?”

    Another question is who is more bipolar.

    Wow you raise an interesting point its like choosing between a douche and a turd sandwich.

    They have both been here as long as I can remember I was here in 2006 and they both annoyed everyone here as long as I can remember. I would say MR because KK get beat up so much you almost feel sorry for him sometimes…..ALMOST!!

  536. lefty12 Says:

    You have to wonder what is Debo’s and others agenda?We all know his opinion on Palmer and the Bust but he comes here daily and reposts his same vile.What is his purpose-to get members of the nation to hate certain players?He isn’t the only one either.

  537. The Big Banana Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 11:19 am
    Walter Football has Palmer listed as #22 Fantasy QB. He hasn’t gotten much respect around the NFL this year. So jumping down a fans throat over the issue is pure blog posturing and bullying.

    ————-

    Tell us, where does Soup, Grads, McCown, and Culpepper rank on that list? Palmer is the best QB we’ve had in some time. Besides, that wasnt the issue. Statement was made that the AZ preseason pick was 2nd worst in NFL history. You stand by that?

  538. KoolKell Says:

    When Al Davis was alive and running the show, I had the audacity to criticize his operation. All the excuse makers in here questioned my fandom, even though I idolized the man my entire life, and started going to games in 1964.

    You can’t say anything in here unless you’re baaaaaing like sheeple, or talking about the load you pinched off in the toilet.

  539. KoolKell Says:

    Besides, that wasnt the issue. Statement was made that the AZ preseason pick was 2nd worst in NFL history. You stand by that?
    ——————————-
    No, but I can’t stand bullying. Especially from a lightweight like SilverandBlack666

  540. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    RAIDER FAN SHOT AT OAKLAND ARIZONA GAME.GUESS THOSE METAL DETECTORS R WORKING OUT PRETTY WELL HUH !!!

  541. KoolKell Says:

    Lefty12 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 11:28 am

    You have to wonder what is Debo’s and others agenda?We all know his opinion on Palmer and the Bust but he comes here daily and reposts his same vile.What is his purpose-to get members of the nation to hate certain players?He isn’t the only one either.
    ————————————-
    Certain bloggers hate on certain people/players all the time in here.

  542. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 11:33 am
    RAIDER FAN SHOT AT OAKLAND ARIZONA GAME.GUESS THOSE METAL DETECTORS R WORKING OUT PRETTY WELL HUH !!!

    —-

    It was in the parking lot.

  543. raidertbone Says:

    RE %27:
    Sorry the link didn’t work:
    Go to You Tube and type in
    Tebow sucks against Lions
    You’ll see a 5 minute montage complete with crappy la-la song
    If you had little respect for him as a QB before, you’ll have even less afterward!

  544. DKnight007 Says:

    You guys recommend any sleepers for this year in Fantasy Football?

  545. raidertbone Says:

    sheeple?

  546. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    THANKS DAV..MY BAD. STILL READING.

  547. SaintKaufman Says:

    what position DK?

  548. TxRaider210 Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 11:20 am
    Guy on ESPN radio picked Palmer to have a big year. Said he is way better than #20 QB.

    ———————–
    Klas

    Before the camp I had CP ranked from 12-14 range league wide, but I could just be “posturing and bullying” lmao

  549. raidertbone Says:

    Fantasy Sleeper pick: Ryan Williams, RB (Arizona)

  550. The Big Banana Says:

    DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 11:33 am
    RAIDER FAN SHOT AT OAKLAND ARIZONA GAME.GUESS THOSE METAL DETECTORS R WORKING OUT PRETTY WELL HUH !!!

    ——-

    Like the SF incident, imagine the drama if it was the other way around.

  551. TxRaider210 Says:

    Sleeper pick TE, Fleener from Indy.

  552. SaintKaufman Says:

    sunshine lollipops!!

  553. RaiderDebo Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 11:04 am
    ” And he threw that pass on the run with a busted up ankle.Crucial mistake, but Palmer’s pick was 100 times worse.”

    Let me try to understand your logic here….The pick that Carson Palmer threw in a meaningless preseason game is 100 times worse than the one Brett Favre threw in a NFC championship that kept his team out of the Super Bowl.

    Your a genius you should be a rocket scientist not a semi-pro blogger!

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    You’re obviously not getting it. Whether ist’s preseason or the playoffs is irrelevant. Favre played an awesome game and had been beat to Hell. NO defenders were in hot pursuit and he was running on a bad wheel. Tried to make a play to put them in the SB and came up short. Bad decision, but I can excuse that under the circumstances. How the hell do you explain the Arizona pick? Sure it’s preseason, but the guy is under some pressure. He’s been terrible the last two years and his propensity for picks has been identified as a big issue. Why does he throw that ball? Why would you think he won’t do something stupid like that in a regular season game given his history?

  554. lefty12 Says:

    KK-his comments go beyond that.He and a couple of others have an agenda.Just wondering what it could be.

  555. TxRaider210 Says:

    You’re obviously not getting it. Whether ist’s preseason or the playoffs is irrelevant. Favre played an awesome game and had been beat to Hell. NO defenders were in hot pursuit and he was running on a bad wheel. Tried to make a play to put them in the SB and came up short. Bad decision, but I can excuse that under the circumstances. How the hell do you explain the Arizona pick? Sure it’s preseason, but the guy is under some pressure. He’s been terrible the last two years and his propensity for picks has been identified as a big issue. Why does he throw that ball? Why would you think he won’t do something stupid like that in a regular season game given his history?

    ————————-
    Favre sucked and should have retired years sooner, also likes to send pics of his pecker to unsuspecting female reporters.

  556. TxRaider210 Says:

    Saying that CP’s INT in pre-season was the worst in history is right there with the guy claiming to be a Raider/9er fan the other day. Hilarious!

  557. KoolKell Says:

    Lefty12 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 11:40 am

    KK-his comments go beyond that.He and a couple of others have an agenda.Just wondering what it could be.
    ———————————–
    Maybe his agenda is a winning season? What’s the agenda for the McClain haters? the Campbell haters? The Hue Jax haters? etc etc etc.

  558. raidertbone Says:

    The pick Favre threw in the NFC Championship game against the Giants back in ‘07 was even worse!

  559. TxRaider210 Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 11:46 am
    Lefty12 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 11:40 am

    KK-his comments go beyond that.He and a couple of others have an agenda.Just wondering what it could be.
    ———————————–
    Maybe his agenda is a winning season? What’s the agenda for the McClain haters? the Campbell haters? The Hue Jax haters? etc etc etc.

    ————–
    Many don’t like 55 for off-field issues, Campbell cause he sucked, Hue cause he didn’t know diddly about defense.

  560. raidertbone Says:

    The pick that Matt Schaub threw at the end of the Raider game last year was pretty awful too!

  561. TxRaider210 Says:

    raidertbone Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 11:47 am
    The pick Favre threw in the NFC Championship game against the Giants back in ‘07 was even worse!

    ———————–
    Got to love his late career melt-down, a few of my friends would make good money off of Favre’s game ending INTs.

  562. TxRaider210 Says:

    raidertbone Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 11:50 am
    The pick that Matt Schaub threw at the end of the Raider game last year was pretty awful too!

    ————–
    I couldn’t tell if that was a throw, or an old lady trying to swing her purse at a robber.lol

  563. R8ER MIKE Says:

    Debo,with your blind love of Jameatball I cant take anything you
    say seriously. You say Palmer is a bad quarterback but put a fat
    lazy out of shape drug user on a pedestal.you make no sense to
    me at all !! and riddle me this batman.. why has no team picked up
    the phone and called your golden boy for a job or even a try out??
    last workout he had was last year in Washington, and then he shows
    up weighing close to 300 lbs !!!

  564. raidertbone Says:

    Where is the “Chosen One” these days, I wonder?

  565. lefty12 Says:

    You disappoint KK.

  566. TxRaider210 Says:

    raidertbone Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 11:53 am
    Where is the “Chosen One” these days, I wonder?

    ——————
    I’d guess hangin’ around LSU campus, drunk of the lean, tryin’ to pull any young broads who may no know who he is.

  567. KoolKell Says:

    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 11:48 am

    KoolKell Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 11:46 am
    Lefty12 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 11:40 am

    KK-his comments go beyond that.He and a couple of others have an agenda.Just wondering what it could be.
    ———————————–
    Maybe his agenda is a winning season? What’s the agenda for the McClain haters? the Campbell haters? The Hue Jax haters? etc etc etc.
    —————————–

    Many don’t like 55 for off-field issues, Campbell cause he sucked, Hue cause he didn’t know diddly about defense.
    ———————————-
    Well Palmer has had ONE winning record in the last 6 years, so he’s no more above criticism, than anyone else.

  568. TxRaider210 Says:

    not*

  569. Raider O Says:

    Well said KK.
    I can’t believe I just said, I’m going to slap myself!

  570. KoolKell Says:

    Lefty12 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 11:54 am

    You disappoint KK.
    ———————-
    Well………sorry, Lefty. ;-)

  571. TxRaider210 Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 11:56 am
    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 11:48 am

    KoolKell Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 11:46 am
    Lefty12 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 11:40 am

    KK-his comments go beyond that.He and a couple of others have an agenda.Just wondering what it could be.
    ———————————–
    Maybe his agenda is a winning season? What’s the agenda for the McClain haters? the Campbell haters? The Hue Jax haters? etc etc etc.
    —————————–

    Many don’t like 55 for off-field issues, Campbell cause he sucked, Hue cause he didn’t know diddly about defense.
    ———————————-
    Well Palmer has had ONE winning record in the last 6 years, so he’s no more above criticism, than anyone else.

    ——————–
    KK

    He hasn’t even had a fair shot in the Raider’s uniform yet, shouldn’t he be allowed that?

  572. Raider O Says:

    Good morning nation and Green Party Members.

  573. hwnrdr Says:

    What’s up O?

  574. TxRaider210 Says:

    Whut’s good O?

  575. purvisman Says:

    Seymour Bush Says: I don’t know, the pick that Soup threw right to the New England defender in the endzone with no pressure on him last year has to rank up there./////////////////////First thing that came to my mind,and I was listening to it on the radio.

  576. Raider O Says:

    I think I’m sick brothers. I agree with most of what KK is saying.
    I need weed!!!!

  577. SaintKaufman Says:

    sup O!

  578. TxRaider210 Says:

    Raider O Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 12:00 pm
    I think I’m sick brothers. I agree with most of what KK is saying.
    I need weed!!!!

    ——————–
    I only agree that CP should face criticism, in a Real game!lol

  579. purvisman Says:

    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 11:45 am
    Saying that CP’s INT in pre-season was the worst in history is right there with the guy claiming to be a Raider/9er fan the other day. Hilarious!////////////////////////That was silverandblacksides, don’t let anyone forget.

  580. Raider O Says:

    Hwnrdr & Tx,

    A beautiful day in southern CA. I’m glad the heat wave is over.

  581. RaiderDebo Says:

    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 11:45 am
    Saying that CP’s INT in pre-season was the worst in history is right there with the guy claiming to be a Raider/9er fan the other day. Hilarious!

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    No, it is the second-worst ever. As I stated earlier, our very own Charlie Frye has the worst in the history of football.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=corW9zfwlW8

  582. KoolKell Says:

    KK

    He hasn’t even had a fair shot in the Raider’s uniform yet, shouldn’t he be allowed that?
    ———————————
    Sure. Who said fans are fair?

  583. TxRaider210 Says:

    purvisman Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 12:01 pm
    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 11:45 am
    Saying that CP’s INT in pre-season was the worst in history is right there with the guy claiming to be a Raider/9er fan the other day. Hilarious!////////////////////////That was silverandblacksides, don’t let anyone forget.

    ——————
    Should be silverandblackandredandgoldsides

  584. TxRaider210 Says:

    Raider O Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 12:02 pm
    Hwnrdr & Tx,

    A beautiful day in southern CA. I’m glad the heat wave is over.

    ———————–
    Yeah man it cooled down here too, 95 rather than 105.lol

  585. DJ Johnny Says:

    575.purvisman Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 11:59 am
    Seymour Bush Says: I don’t know, the pick that Soup threw right to the New England defender in the endzone with no pressure on him last year has to rank up there./////////////////////First thing that came to my mind,and I was listening to it on the radio.

    Most “fair” people would actually chalk that up to “That was bad..but it happens”. Sure it was an awful pass/decision and a critical mistake against a team which u can’t afford to make mistakes like that, but i don’t indict JC as that being the defining moment of his career, but then again i don’t have a predisposed agenda of hate against him.

  586. TxRaider210 Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 12:02 pm
    KK

    He hasn’t even had a fair shot in the Raider’s uniform yet, shouldn’t he be allowed that?
    ———————————
    Sure. Who said fans are fair?

    —————-
    Isn’t calling any pre-season INT the worst ever just downright retarded though, on all levels?

  587. lefty12 Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 12:02 pm
    Sure. Who said fans are fair?
    =========================
    Who said everyone that comments here is a fan?

  588. KoolKell Says:

    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 12:05 pm
    KoolKell Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 12:02 pm
    KK

    He hasn’t even had a fair shot in the Raider’s uniform yet, shouldn’t he be allowed that?
    ———————————
    Sure. Who said fans are fair?

    —————-
    Isn’t calling any pre-season INT the worst ever just downright retarded though, on all levels?
    ———————————
    So, what’s your agenda? Tell Lefty.

  589. RaiderDebo Says:

    DJ Johnny Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 12:04 pm
    575.purvisman Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 11:59 am
    Seymour Bush Says: I don’t know, the pick that Soup threw right to the New England defender in the endzone with no pressure on him last year has to rank up there./////////////////////First thing that came to my mind,and I was listening to it on the radio.

    Most “fair” people would actually chalk that up to “That was bad..but it happens”. Sure it was an awful pass/decision and a critical mistake against a team which u can’t afford to make mistakes like that, but i don’t indict JC as that being the defining moment of his career, but then again i don’t have a predisposed agenda of hate against him.

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Ummm, kind of hard to make that “the defining moment of his Raider career” when the dude went 7-0 against the AFC West!

  590. TxRaider210 Says:

    lefty12 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 12:06 pm
    KoolKell Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 12:02 pm
    Sure. Who said fans are fair?
    =========================
    Who said everyone that comments here is a fan?

    —————
    No kidding, see post 583

  591. purvisman Says:

    SaintKaufman Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 11:40 am
    sunshine lollipops!!////////////////No rainbows or sprinkles?

  592. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Who said who said?…

  593. Raider O Says:

    Tx & Saint,

    CP is not a rookie, he has been in the league for some time now, same with Knapp, so I can understand why some people (including myself) have concerns with some of their issues that are starting to show AGAIN in this preseason.
    I don’t want to keep posting the same stat, but look at Palmer’s stats the last 2 seasons (36 games), and tell me with a straight face that he doesn’t have a TO/ INT issue.

  594. R8ER MIKE Says:

    good day O !!
    whats the word ??

  595. DJ Johnny Says:

    583.TxRaider210 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 12:03 pm
    purvisman Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 12:01 pm
    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 11:45 am
    Saying that CP’s INT in pre-season was the worst in history is right there with the guy claiming to be a Raider/9er fan the other day. Hilarious!////////////////////////That was silverandblacksides, don’t let anyone forget.

    ——————
    Should be silverandblackandredandgoldsides

    I’m assuming there are a few fans out by u guys who root for both teams( as unfotunate and wrong as that is) but he lost me when he said the 9′ers would kick the Raiders azzes every Sunday if they played.

  596. Raider O Says:

    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 12:04 pm
    Raider O Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 12:02 pm
    Hwnrdr & Tx,

    A beautiful day in southern CA. I’m glad the heat wave is over.

    ———————–
    Yeah man it cooled down here too, 95 rather than 105.lol
    $$$$$$$$$$$$!

    LOL
    I thought 95 was bad!
    Still LOL

  597. TxRaider210 Says:

    Raider O Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 12:08 pm
    Tx & Saint,

    CP is not a rookie, he has been in the league for some time now, same with Knapp, so I can understand why some people (including myself) have concerns with some of their issues that are starting to show AGAIN in this preseason.
    I don’t want to keep posting the same stat, but look at Palmer’s stats the last 2 seasons (36 games), and tell me with a straight face that he doesn’t have a TO/ INT issue.

    ——————–
    He has had issues, but last year shouldn’t be included, and pre-season games should be like practice.imo

  598. Raider O Says:

    ODB,

    LOL
    Haven’t you heard?
    Bird!
    Bird, bird, bird…. Bird is the word!

  599. purvisman Says:

    Hey, I liked Campbell. Prefer Palmer, though. At least when Campbell threw it deep you knew it was going out of bounds and not to a defender.

  600. RaidingTexas Says:

    They need to take baseball away from the bay area. Buncha cheaters out there. I thought BALCO shut down.

  601. TxRaider210 Says:

    LOL
    I thought 95 was bad!
    Still LOL

    ————-
    LOL Yeah man, I really hope this is the beginning of the season change for real.

  602. Raider O Says:

    I see a TREND with Palmer, and I don’t like it.

  603. TxRaider210 Says:

    Raider O Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 12:12 pm
    I see a TREND with Palmer, and I don’t like it.

    ——————
    I see your point man, but you have posters saying that his INT was the worst ever.lmao This game, I’m more concerned with Parsons’ play and Bartell on Megatron, Palmer should manage better with a bigger playbook.

  604. purvisman Says:

    Geez,do I have to look up the stats again? Last 4 or 5 games last year with playoffs on the line Palmer played mostly outstanding football.

  605. TxRaider210 Says:

    purvisman Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 12:14 pm
    Geez,do I have to look up the stats again? Last 4 or 5 games last year with playoffs on the line Palmer played mostly outstanding football.

    ————–
    That he did.

  606. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    @Raider O #602 – Yep!Started back in Cincy after being out a season with a leg injury.

  607. raidertbone Says:

    Let’s see what happens against SuckDiego …

  608. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    New Post……..see ya!!!

  609. TxRaider210 Says:

    Might be too early to tell, but cut Smurf12 and I’d better CP doesn’t throw nearly as many INTs this year.

  610. DJ Johnny Says:

    563.R8ER MIKE Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 11:51 am
    Debo,with your blind love of Jameatball I cant take anything you
    say seriously. You say Palmer is a bad quarterback but put a fat
    lazy out of shape drug user on a pedestal.you make no sense to
    me at all !! and riddle me this batman.. why has no team picked up
    the phone and called your golden boy for a job or even a try out??
    last workout he had was last year in Washington, and then he shows
    up weighing close to 300 lbs !!!

    It’s Al Davis’s fault of course. Al sticking up for him in the Kiffin presser and also paying him all that $$$ retarded his development and hurt his feelings.

  611. Raider O Says:

    Last 4 or 5 games?!?!
    You may want to increase your sample size to be more accurate in your assessment.

  612. SaintKaufman Says:

    O,
    Name me 1 QB that had stepped away from the game for 10 months and then without any practice or seeing a playbook gets called up to play in a blowout loss, gets 1 week of practice then is named the starter for the rest of the season?

    The dude throws picks. Yep, true. That’s what kind of QB he is I guess. There have been many great ones that throw picks. He is not a check down game manager let the defense win type of passer.

    Obviously you want someone else. Name any QB out of the last 20 that the Raiders have had that you would rather have. Let’s start there and then work our way back.

  613. bunk moorland Says:

    Raider O Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 12:08 pm
    Tx & Saint,

    CP is not a rookie, he has been in the league for some time now, same with Knapp, so I can understand why some people (including myself) have concerns with some of their issues that are starting to show AGAIN in this preseason.
    I don’t want to keep posting the same stat, but look at Palmer’s stats the last 2 seasons (36 games), and tell me with a straight face that he doesn’t have a TO/ INT issue.——————————————————————————————————-

    Not here to argue by any means, but he had two of the most undisciplined rout running wr in the game( owens and johnson). If you have to throw to a spot, and wr is not there, that could inflate your int stats.

  614. blackandsilverside Says:

    DJ Johnny Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 12:09 pm

    583.TxRaider210 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 12:03 pm
    purvisman Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 12:01 pm
    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 11:45 am
    Saying that CP’s INT in pre-season was the worst in history is right there with the guy claiming to be a Raider/9er fan the other day. Hilarious!////////////////////////That was silverandblacksides, don’t let anyone forget.

    ——————
    Should be silverandblackandredandgoldsides

    I’m assuming there are a few fans out by u guys who root for both teams( as unfotunate and wrong as that is) but he lost me when he said the 9′ers would kick the Raiders azzes every Sunday if they played.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    “unfortunate and wrong” lol…… seems like many in here need to get a life. I told you all once, and I will say it again: I am a Raiders fan first and 49′er fan second, and have been before you Johnny-Come-Lately(s) were even born.

    I’ll say it again now regarding the current state of both teams: the 49′ers will beat the Raiders every time.

    Hopefully that will change soon and the Raiders will be the dominant team.

  615. TxRaider210 Says:

    Did someone fart?

  616. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    Riiiippppp!!!!! New Post!!!

  617. bunk moorland Says:

    Blackandsilverside Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 12:18 pm
    DJ Johnny Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 12:09 pm

    583.TxRaider210 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 12:03 pm
    purvisman Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 12:01 pm
    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 11:45 am
    Saying that CP’s INT in pre-season was the worst in history is right there with the guy claiming to be a Raider/9er fan the other day. Hilarious!////////////////////////That was silverandblacksides, don’t let anyone forget.

    ——————
    Should be silverandblackandredandgoldsides

    I’m assuming there are a few fans out by u guys who root for both teams( as unfotunate and wrong as that is) but he lost me when he said the 9′ers would kick the Raiders azzes every Sunday if they played.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    “unfortunate and wrong” lol…… seems like many in here need to get a life. I told you all once, and I will say it again: I am a Raiders fan first and 49′er fan second, and have been before you Johnny-Come-Lately(s) were even born.

    I’ll say it again now regarding the current state of both teams: the 49′ers will beat the Raiders every time.

    Hopefully that will change soon and the Raiders will be the dominant team.
    ——————————————————-

    When did Benadict Arnold change his name

  618. DJ Johnny Says:

    Blackside,

    You certainly have the right to be a fan of whichever team you want.

    I’m being facetious when I say it is “wrong” to do so.

    Only in the sense it might break the unwritten “rabid loyal fan code”.

    In the grand scheme of life, there are bigger concerns of course.

  619. DJ Johnny Says:

    Where is this new post you speak of?

  620. Suspect J Says:

    359.Suspect J Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 8:55 am
    Carter could be a good pick up. Just have him in on third downs so he can rush the passer. Just think hes a situational guy though. We need another running back! Goodson is not going to cut it. Jones just seems to be hurt all the time.

    ——————————————————

    I agree! We need another RB on this team. DMAC is a TOP 10 RB in the NFL when he is on the field. However, I think Reggie does not want to over spend for an older back. I think he knows he can get a reliable back when teams cut down for a reasonable price.

    ———————–

    I understand Reggie is just waiting to pull the trigger on another Back. We just need sombody solid who can hold on to the freakin ball when there number is called.

    I have a feeling that DMAC is gonna be healthy this whole season and run his ass off all the way to the Superbowl. I just have this GUT FEELING

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