Raiders look at Andre Carter
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Tuesday, August 21st, 2012 at 3:14 pm in Oakland Raiders.
The Raiders had defensive end Andre Carter, who played for both Cal and the 49ers, in for a workout Tuesday.
After being evaluated by Raiders general manager Reggie McKenzie and members of the personnel department, Carter good-naturedly waved off reporters who had questions.
“I’ve got to stay low key,’’ Carter said. “If it works out, God willing . . .’’
Carter, 33, is coming off a season with the New England Patriots in which he had 10 sacks and tied the club’s single-game sack record with four against the New York Jets.
However, Carter tore his left quadriceps tendon on Dec. 18 and missed the remainder of the season.
Coach Dennis Allen confirmed Carter’s presence and said, “We’re shaking all the bushes and seeing what falls out, and if we feel like we’ve got something that can help us, we’re going to do it.’’
Carter played as an outside linebacker in a 3-4 defense with both the 49ers under Mike Nolan, but has flourished as an end, with 10 or more sacks in three of his last five seasons and 76 for his career.
The Raiders are primarily a 4-3 team but have shown some 3-4 and plan have multiple schemes.
The Raiders currently have Matt Shaughnessy and Lamar Houston as the starting defensive ends, with Dave Tollefson in reserve and a rookie fifth-round draft pick in Jack Crawford.
Houston, however, can also play inside, and the Raiders plan to use a lot of different combinations along their defensive front.
Raiders go to regular season mode
In a departure from previous years, coach Dennis Allen took the extra step of instituting in-season media access, meaning reporters were restricted to the first half-hour of practice. During that time, the club goes through warm-ups and some drills, with the media being excused once they go to team sessions.
Every other season since 1996, practices were open all the way through training camp and practices closed once the team returned to its home facility in Alameda.
Players who were not present or did not appear to be practicing as the team sessions began included wide receivers Jacoby Ford (foot) and Denarius Moore (hamstring), running back Rashawn Jackson (hip), linebacker Aaron Curry (knees), center Stefen Wisniewski (calf), tackle Ed Wang (shoulder), tackle Zach Hurd (head), defensive tackle Richard Seymour (veteran’s day off) and defensive tackle Jamie Cumbie (foot).
Players who were back at practice included safety Michael Huff (paternity leave), quarterback Matt Leinart (lacerated right index finger) and wide receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey (shoulder).
The Raiders must cut the roster to 75 players by 1 p.m. on Aug. 7 (Pacific Time), with the 53-man roster finalized on Aug. 31 by 6 p.m.
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August 21st, 2012 at 3:15 pm
Roster spots we need to look to upgrade during 53 man cut downs:
8th OL – Barksdale
6th CB – McCann
4th OLB – Burnett
August 21st, 2012 at 3:17 pm
M.Jones-Drew now open to being traded..
August 21st, 2012 at 3:18 pm
McCann might be the better return man
August 21st, 2012 at 3:20 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
August 21st, 2012 at 3:15 pm
Roster spots we need to look to upgrade during 53 man cut downs:
8th OL – Barksdale
6th CB – McCann
4th OLB – Burnett
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We’ll need a ninth O-lineman. No way we go into the season with ONE backup tackle.
August 21st, 2012 at 3:20 pm
Raiderbuck Says:
August 21st, 2012 at 3:18 pm
McCann might be the better return man
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But that might be the only reason he makes the team.
Ford’s injury forces our hand there.
Unless we go Goodson on KR & Moore on PR.
But again, injury [Moore] forcing our hand.
August 21st, 2012 at 3:20 pm
Shake them bushes, baby!
August 21st, 2012 at 3:20 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
August 21st, 2012 at 3:17 pm
M.Jones-Drew now open to being traded..
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What does JAX need that we have? Maybe Reggie can snooker this Khan dude.
August 21st, 2012 at 3:21 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
August 21st, 2012 at 3:20 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
August 21st, 2012 at 3:15 pm
Roster spots we need to look to upgrade during 53 man cut downs:
8th OL – Barksdale
6th CB – McCann
4th OLB – Burnett
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We’ll need a ninth O-lineman. No way we go into the season with ONE backup tackle.
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Im thinking we go 8 OL.
Bergstrom will backup Guard & Tackle.
Parsons will backup Center & Guard.
Barksdale will backup Tackle.. Thats where we need the upgrade.
We went with 8 OL last year too.
August 21st, 2012 at 3:22 pm
The Raiders must cut the roster to 65 players by 1 p.m. on Aug. 7 (Pacific Time
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aug 7th has come and gone. today is the 21st.
August 21st, 2012 at 3:22 pm
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I agree, I’ll give him the benefit of first game back jitters, after a hard hit. Stink it up again though, adios my friend.
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And the other thing is, we haven’t seen squat from Jones. 1 preseason game where he looked full of promise. Then hurt….Comes into a game for 1 play…back to the sideline…Hurt again.
RB’s especially can’t be expected to come off the bench and take one to the house. They need to get in a rythm. We don’t even know what he can do yet. He could be fantastic, but…..I’m worried.
August 21st, 2012 at 3:22 pm
Also, Jerry got the cutdown dates messed up.
August 21st, 2012 at 3:23 pm
Hey jags…. we gotts really fast err, qb… wanna make a deal?
August 21st, 2012 at 3:23 pm
Barksdale makes the team … McCann and Burnett both on the bubble.
August 21st, 2012 at 3:23 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
August 21st, 2012 at 3:20 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
August 21st, 2012 at 3:17 pm
M.Jones-Drew now open to being traded..
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What does JAX need that we have? Maybe Reggie can snooker this Khan dude.
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Draft Picks is the only thing I can see.
August 21st, 2012 at 3:24 pm
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3818981
Aug. 28: Roster cutdown to 80 players
Aug. 31: Roster cutdown to 53 players.
August 21st, 2012 at 3:24 pm
Reggie could work a trade for MJD — imagine both him and DMac in the same backfield!
August 21st, 2012 at 3:25 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
August 21st, 2012 at 3:23 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
August 21st, 2012 at 3:20 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
August 21st, 2012 at 3:17 pm
M.Jones-Drew now open to being traded..
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What does JAX need that we have? Maybe Reggie can snooker this Khan dude.
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Draft Picks is the only thing I can see.
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And Reggie won’t trade those, nor should he.
August 21st, 2012 at 3:25 pm
raidertbone Says:
August 21st, 2012 at 3:23 pm
Barksdale makes the team … McCann and Burnett both on the bubble.
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At this moment all 3 make the team. Burnett closest to a bubble.
The point of my comment was that we need to upgrade those spots.
August 21st, 2012 at 3:25 pm
Heyer is a decent plr at g & t… sign him..
August 21st, 2012 at 3:25 pm
Well, we’ll let go of one kicker, one punter, and one QB — that’s 3, at least.
August 21st, 2012 at 3:25 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
August 21st, 2012 at 3:25 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
August 21st, 2012 at 3:23 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
August 21st, 2012 at 3:20 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
August 21st, 2012 at 3:17 pm
M.Jones-Drew now open to being traded..
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What does JAX need that we have? Maybe Reggie can snooker this Khan dude.
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Draft Picks is the only thing I can see.
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And Reggie won’t trade those, nor should he.
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Exactly.
August 21st, 2012 at 3:26 pm
Raidertbone Says:
August 21st, 2012 at 3:24 pm
Reggie could work a trade for MJD — imagine both him and DMac in the same backfield!
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If Al were alive, he’d be calling Khan right now and offering next year’s #1.
Glad Reggie’s in charge instead.
August 21st, 2012 at 3:27 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
August 21st, 2012 at 3:17 pm
M.Jones-Drew now open to being traded..
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Is this new news? I figured he has ben open to that since he started his holdout. He wants to get paid, I don’t see us payin him, but he is a well known Raider fan. I could see the Broncos or Chargers having some interest in him, that would suck.
August 21st, 2012 at 3:27 pm
After losing so many picks in his first draft, I don’t see Reggie doling out picks for next year — if anything, I see him looking to acquire more; wouldn’t be surprised to see him trade down once or twice to garner additional picks .. but that’s NEXT year!
August 21st, 2012 at 3:28 pm
raidertbone Says:
August 21st, 2012 at 3:25 pm
Well, we’ll let go of one kicker, one punter, and one QB — that’s 3, at least.
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Bro, im not talking about roster spots in terms of them making the team.
Im saying they ARE making the team, and we need to get better at THEIR roster spots.
Meaning we need to sign someone better than them for those positions during cutdowns.
August 21st, 2012 at 3:30 pm
realtruraider Says:
August 21st, 2012 at 3:27 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
August 21st, 2012 at 3:17 pm
M.Jones-Drew now open to being traded..
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Is this new news? I figured he has ben open to that since he started his holdout. He wants to get paid, I don’t see us payin him, but he is a well known Raider fan. I could see the Broncos or Chargers having some interest in him, that would suck.
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Yes, it is usually news when the NFL leader in rushing yards wants to be traded because of the owners comments.
August 21st, 2012 at 3:30 pm
Reggie needs to package the serially injured Moore, Jones, and Ford and trade them for either an excellent CB or RB.
Time has run out for these 3 players. We retained Schliens way too long and hung on to Murphy who took one substantial lick and was never the same.
Some guys make a career out of riding the pine. It’s a steady paycheck with no chance of concussion and they can make a $1M/yr or more for doing nothing.
Btw, Chaz and Murphy have both been injured in the preseason, and are again, riding the pine.
August 21st, 2012 at 3:30 pm
There will be a verstile o-linemen kept on the practice squad. Relax.
Our special teams has looked tragic.
Thats a big need, return game is important.
August 21st, 2012 at 3:31 pm
DAV:
This is where the GM really earns his money — once cuts are made, who knows what diamonds in the rough are going to be out there? You have to look at depth charts, whose ahead of those who’ve been cut, how they did in camp, how they performed in college, overall attitude, etc. There may still even be some unsigned free agents that could actually help out at a position or two.
August 21st, 2012 at 3:31 pm
Raiderinparadise Says:
August 21st, 2012 at 3:30 pm
Our special teams has looked tragic.
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Agreed. Everyone bags on Knapp, but Steve Hoffman is so far looking like a terrible hire.
August 21st, 2012 at 3:32 pm
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August 21st, 2012 at 3:32 pm
Reggie pull the trigger….. Get MJD!!!!!
August 21st, 2012 at 3:32 pm
Yes, it is usually news when the NFL leader in rushing yards wants to be traded because of the owners comments.
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Well yeah, but it seems to be a couple months old, lol
August 21st, 2012 at 3:33 pm
8RaiderReign8 Says:
August 21st, 2012 at 3:32 pm
Reggie pull the trigger….. Get MJD!!!!!
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With what?!?
August 21st, 2012 at 3:33 pm
Seymour & Ford to JAX for MJD
August 21st, 2012 at 3:33 pm
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You are WRONG, my friend! I was at the Panthers preseason game on Friday, and saw Murphy in action. He was targeted several times, and made numerous good plays. He might even edge out LaFell for one of the starting receiver spots.
August 21st, 2012 at 3:33 pm
raiderinparadise Says:
August 21st, 2012 at 3:30 pm
There will be a verstile o-linemen kept on the practice squad. Relax.
Our special teams has looked tragic.
Thats a big need, return game is important.
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Yes, his name is Lucas Nix.
But that has nothing to do with us needing to upgrade the 8th OL on our 53 man roster, Barksdale.
August 21st, 2012 at 3:34 pm
realtruraider Says:
August 21st, 2012 at 3:32 pm
Yes, it is usually news when the NFL leader in rushing yards wants to be traded because of the owners comments.
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Well yeah, but it seems to be a couple months old, lol
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He was holding out for a new big contract, that is the news you are thinking of. There was never any trade talk.
Until today…
August 21st, 2012 at 3:35 pm
It will really start to heat up if the Jags start takin offers, but I doubt they will even entertain it.
August 21st, 2012 at 3:36 pm
The Raiders must cut the roster to 65 players by 1 p.m. on Aug. 7 (Pacific Time
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aug 7th has come and gone. today is the 21st.
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LOL!!!
Life must be good as an NFL beat writer, where you can forget which week it is.
August 21st, 2012 at 3:36 pm
MJD is just trying to get his money — they ain’t going to trade away their franchise!
August 21st, 2012 at 3:37 pm
Can MJD leave or be traded?
August 21st, 2012 at 3:37 pm
Bring back Fargas!
August 21st, 2012 at 3:38 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
August 21st, 2012 at 3:26 pm
Raidertbone Says:
August 21st, 2012 at 3:24 pm
Reggie could work a trade for MJD — imagine both him and DMac in the same backfield!
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If Al were alive, he’d be calling Khan right now and offering next year’s #1.
Glad Reggie’s in charge instead.
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PULL THE TRIGGER REGGIE!!!!!!!
It might not be smart, but you know all would summon Herrera for the phone.
August 21st, 2012 at 3:38 pm
Raiderinparadise Says:
August 21st, 2012 at 3:33 pm
Seymour & Ford to JAX for MJD
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A $15 million/year DT (who’s on the way out) and a frequently injured slot receiver in exchange for the NFL’s leading rusher?
Yes, I’m sure Jax would jump all over it. (eyeroll)
August 21st, 2012 at 3:38 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
August 21st, 2012 at 3:33 pm
8RaiderReign8 Says:
August 21st, 2012 at 3:32 pm
Reggie pull the trigger….. Get MJD!!!!!
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With what?!?
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DMC easily
August 21st, 2012 at 3:38 pm
raidertbone Says:
August 21st, 2012 at 3:36 pm
MJD is just trying to get his money — they ain’t going to trade away their franchise!
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The holdout part was him trying to get his money.
The trade part is a whole new monster.
The owner pissed him off.
August 21st, 2012 at 3:39 pm
JUST DO IT REGGIE!!!!!
August 21st, 2012 at 3:39 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
August 21st, 2012 at 3:38 pm
Raiderinparadise Says:
August 21st, 2012 at 3:33 pm
Seymour & Ford to JAX for MJD
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A $15 million/year DT (who’s on the way out) and a frequently injured slot receiver in exchange for the NFL’s leading rusher?
Yes, I’m sure Jax would jump all over it. (eyeroll)
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LOL.
August 21st, 2012 at 3:39 pm
TxRaider210 Says:
August 21st, 2012 at 3:37 pm
Can MJD leave or be traded?
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Only traded.
August 21st, 2012 at 3:39 pm
8RaiderReign8 Says:
August 21st, 2012 at 3:38 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
August 21st, 2012 at 3:33 pm
8RaiderReign8 Says:
August 21st, 2012 at 3:32 pm
Reggie pull the trigger….. Get MJD!!!!!
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With what?!?
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DMC easily
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A running back for a running back? To what end?
August 21st, 2012 at 3:40 pm
Jax and the Raiders don’t matchup for a trade….now let me ask you this…..MJD for DMAC straight up, would you do it?.
August 21st, 2012 at 3:41 pm
DMC ain’t going anywhere, gonna ball like a champ this year.
August 21st, 2012 at 3:41 pm
If Khan was stupid enough to trade away the NFL’s leading rusher for a back who can’t even make it through half the season, he should be forced to buy the Cleveland Browns franchise, as well (or maybe the Suck-ramento Kings)!
August 21st, 2012 at 3:42 pm
Mjd for seymore & tp.. do it. do it..
August 21st, 2012 at 3:42 pm
Bob Marley Says:
August 21st, 2012 at 3:40 pm
Jax and the Raiders don’t matchup for a trade….now let me ask you this…..MJD for DMAC straight up, would you do it?.
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All i know is Al is spinning in his grave.
August 21st, 2012 at 3:43 pm
We’re not getting MJD.
Sorry I brought it up.
LOL..
August 21st, 2012 at 3:43 pm
Raidertbone Says:
August 21st, 2012 at 3:41 pm
If Khan was stupid enough to trade away the NFL’s leading rusher for a back who can’t even make it through half the season, he should be forced to buy the Cleveland Browns franchise, as well (or maybe the Suck-ramento Kings)!
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LOL!
August 21st, 2012 at 3:45 pm
Al is spinning in his grave anyway, because all the deals are being made and he’s not a part of it — I wonder what kind of deal he’s working with God right now.
August 21st, 2012 at 3:45 pm
Wuuudddeerrryyouussmmookiin?
August 21st, 2012 at 3:45 pm
Code Ginger
August 21st, 2012 at 3:47 pm
I watched The Panthers replay yesterday and both Murphy and Beast Campbell looked good, I figured Murphy would, but I was surprised how good B.Campbell looked at LT, he was holding his own and played there for a whole half.
August 21st, 2012 at 3:47 pm
Marks Hair Says:
August 21st, 2012 at 3:42 pm
Mjd for seymore & tp.. do it. do it..
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Wait. I’ve got an even better one: MJD and their next three first-rounders for Barksdale, DVD, Goodson, KNC and Wayne Dorsey!
GET IT DONE, REGGIE
(I hope everyone recognizes sarcasm)
August 21st, 2012 at 3:48 pm
60:
Super skunk – oh yeah!
August 21st, 2012 at 3:48 pm
Xrays show mike vick has a bruised vaglna..
August 21st, 2012 at 3:48 pm
TxRaider210 Says:
August 21st, 2012 at 3:45 pm
Wuuudddeerrryyouussmmookiin?
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Somethin you aint finding in Texas
August 21st, 2012 at 3:49 pm
Marks Hair Says:
August 21st, 2012 at 3:48 pm
Xrays show mike vick has a bruised vaglna..
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I actually played one year in an FF league titled “The Ron Mexico Experience.”
August 21st, 2012 at 3:49 pm
62. Bad trades..
August 21st, 2012 at 3:50 pm
What you DIDN’T see during the Panthers game was all the conversation going on between him and Cam on the sidelines — I still think Murphy is going to emerge as a baller for them this year.
August 21st, 2012 at 3:50 pm
CODE FERGUSON
Mess with the turtle, get the head!
August 21st, 2012 at 3:50 pm
Raidertbone Says:
August 21st, 2012 at 3:45 pm
Al is spinning in his grave anyway, because all the deals are being made and he’s not a part of it — I wonder what kind of deal he’s working with God right now.
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He’s probably working on 1 1/2 wings for tree halos and a box of cracker jacks
August 21st, 2012 at 3:50 pm
Marks Hair Says:
August 21st, 2012 at 3:49 pm
62. Bad trades..
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We won’t miss Murphy. As for Campbell: maybe getting traded snapped him out of his funk, but neither Cable nor Wylie had any use for the guy.
August 21st, 2012 at 3:51 pm
Michael Stick (as in, broken one).
August 21st, 2012 at 3:52 pm
weak asz trade goodson for beast campbell…what else will reggie mess up…oh wait we have rookie rec to start instead of vets like murph and schilens…wonder how many times bush has fumbled?
August 21st, 2012 at 3:54 pm
The only thing Schilens would ever be a starter for is the wheelchair league at the Y.
August 21st, 2012 at 3:55 pm
Need defensive line help? I wonder if we can dig up Terdell Sands’ number from somewhere?
August 21st, 2012 at 3:55 pm
72. Still bad trades. I wont miss goodson or a seventh rounder.. ot is the bigest pos of demand for trades right now. & wrs are dropping like flies.. too early to even consider trading those guys.. not for what we got at least..
August 21st, 2012 at 3:55 pm
Dear God just do it Reggie
August 21st, 2012 at 3:56 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
August 21st, 2012 at 3:52 pm
weak asz trade goodson for beast campbell
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HAHAHA…”Beast” Campbell. You mean the same “Beast” who couldn’t get on the field if his life depended on it? Woe be to Cam if this guy plays any significant minutes.
August 21st, 2012 at 3:57 pm
I’m just VERY VERY glad that we didn’t get duped into trading for McNabb back when.
August 21st, 2012 at 3:59 pm
Campbell played alright, but it was against future grocery baggers. All he is is a really big, strong backup lineman, with a lot of work ahead of him.
August 21st, 2012 at 3:59 pm
Marks Hair Says:
August 21st, 2012 at 3:55 pm
72. Still bad trades. I wont miss goodson or a seventh rounder.. ot is the bigest pos of demand for trades right now. & wrs are dropping like flies.. too early to even consider trading those guys.. not for what we got at least..
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SKILLED offensive tackles are in demand. Campbell was usually made inactive for players who WE KNEW would be out. What does that tell you? And name one clutch catch Murphy has made since Tollner was the OC.
August 21st, 2012 at 4:00 pm
Everyone thought al davis was paranoid we can’t get training camp information anymore.
August 21st, 2012 at 4:04 pm
82.. no.. the trades were bad because the players we traded are worth more now than when we traded them.. now there are injuries & desperate teams.. like …hmm us..
August 21st, 2012 at 4:04 pm
This is a LAZY post. he just copy & paste his two last columns he didnt even change that date to AUG. 27. SMH
August 21st, 2012 at 4:05 pm
If al was alive we wouldn’t have traded louis murphy before the season to see if we would have healthy receivers.
August 21st, 2012 at 4:06 pm
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True, He didn’t look great and he was going against backups, but I was just surprised he looked alright in there. Maybe our coaching staff should of tried him at LT/RT instead of the Guard experiment, but like I said he didn’t look great out there, it looked like he even gave up a sack later in the game, probably to some 3rd string guy or something
August 21st, 2012 at 4:06 pm
Marks Hair Says:
August 21st, 2012 at 4:04 pm
82.. no.. the trades were bad because the players we traded are worth more now than when we traded them.. now there are injuries & desperate teams.. like …hmm us..
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I wouldn’t call us desperate. Even with Ford out, our WR position is fine, and DMAC’s not going anywhere. Relax.
August 21st, 2012 at 4:07 pm
The major blunder was moving Campbell to Gaurd. SMH.
August 21st, 2012 at 4:08 pm
Morilla Says:
August 21st, 2012 at 4:07 pm
The major blunder was moving Campbell to Guard. SMH.
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Yell at Cable for that one.
August 21st, 2012 at 4:10 pm
Its pre-season
August 21st, 2012 at 4:11 pm
Sign Carter if it makes sense.
However, this team needs more help at RB and WR and one more OLinemen!
August 21st, 2012 at 4:12 pm
Like I said everything reggie does is perfect to you everyone ESPN.com,fans realize that was a bad move. Any GM waits until the season too see what happens.you can twist anyway you want but murphy was a good receiver and has done a lot more than criner and streater combine.
August 21st, 2012 at 4:14 pm
They got rid of Murphy and got ZERO in return.
Bad move by Reggie McK!
August 21st, 2012 at 4:18 pm
DKnight007 Says:
August 21st, 2012 at 4:14 pm
They got rid of Murphy and got ZERO in return.
Bad move by Reggie McK!
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They got a draft pick for a guy who’d be sixth-string at best. What’s the problem?
August 21st, 2012 at 4:19 pm
We got 7 mil get mjd. Christ, whats that get 2 games from him
August 21st, 2012 at 4:19 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
August 21st, 2012 at 4:08 pm
Morilla Says:
August 21st, 2012 at 4:07 pm
The major blunder was moving Campbell to Guard. SMH.
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Yell at Cable for that one.
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I hate that Fat Monkey!
August 21st, 2012 at 4:19 pm
88. Your soo not getting it.. value.. we sold in a bad market.. dallas is now hurt at wr.. jets at ot.. us at ot.. us at rb.. bad time to trade.. they are worth more now.. we got nothing back for 3rd & 4th rd picks..
August 21st, 2012 at 4:20 pm
What will we ever do without Cambell and Murphy.
August 21st, 2012 at 4:21 pm
Agreed bad move on the Murphy trade but they were looking at the future and felt like Criner and streater had a bright upside we can all plan for a picnic but cannot predict the weather. once everybody gets healthy and the young WR start to produce everybody is going to jump back on the reggie wagon. is funny how some of you jump out at the first bad move.
August 21st, 2012 at 4:21 pm
Marks Hair Says:
August 21st, 2012 at 4:19 pm
88. Your soo not getting it.. value.. we sold in a bad market.. dallas is now hurt at wr.. jets at ot.. us at ot.. us at rb.. bad time to trade.. they are worth more now.. we got nothing back for 3rd & 4th rd picks..
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The Jets wouldn’t give us a warm can of SPAM for Campbell and you know it. Murphy wouldn’t get much more, as he hasn’t placed decently since 2009. And they were both 4th-rounders, not 3rd.
August 21st, 2012 at 4:21 pm
You dont sell snow cones at christmas..
August 21st, 2012 at 4:22 pm
I’m just glad AL didn’t draft Campbe in the 1st round.
August 21st, 2012 at 4:23 pm
Why am i ” jumping off reggies wagon”? Cause i didnt like his 2 trades? Bfd.. i dont have to agree with everthing he does.
August 21st, 2012 at 4:28 pm
101.. you dont know what theyd give.. dallas has no wrs left.. no depth at ot.. the jets are in almost the same boat.. murf is better than chaz..
now that someones let cambell play & look good.. he might be worth more… bad time to trade.. pointless
August 21st, 2012 at 4:29 pm
Murphy started one game last year. He was beginning to turn into a pain in the ass. Not the role model you want for guys like Criner and Streater. That we got anything for him is a plus.
August 21st, 2012 at 4:29 pm
can we trade gregg knapp?
August 21st, 2012 at 4:29 pm
Marks Hair Says:
August 21st, 2012 at 4:28 pm
101.. you dont know what theyd give.. dallas has no wrs left.. no depth at ot.. the jets are in almost the same boat.. murf is better than chaz..
now that someones let cambell play & look good.. he might be worth more… bad time to trade.. pointless
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You’re WAY overvaluing both of them. No guarantee either would have even made our final cuts.
August 21st, 2012 at 4:29 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
August 21st, 2012 at 4:29 pm
Murphy started one game last year. He was beginning to turn into a pain in the ass. Not the role model you want for guys like Criner and Streater. That we got anything for him is a plus.
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EXACTLY. Thank you!
August 21st, 2012 at 4:29 pm
If the haircut fits wear it, I didnt call you out personally. But some fans want everything to be perfect this dud is doing the most with the little that he got. At the end he could not keep all WR’s and streater looks good we still waiting on criner. LMurph was falling behind and Bruce cam didnt fit with the ZB scheme or else they would have keept him.
August 21st, 2012 at 4:31 pm
Don’t worry, Murphy will take a substantial lick and again will be logging pine time.
August 21st, 2012 at 4:34 pm
108& 110. They dont have to make our team.. they only had to play well enough to be better than the 4th wr or ot for dallas or the jets.. because Now they have injuries.. not before.. Now… trade them now… not after our cuts.. not before the preseason.. rookie mistake.. no big deal. But.. bad timing. Bad value.
August 21st, 2012 at 4:36 pm
In 3 season with the Raiders Murphy gained 1375 yds with 6 TD’s. He’s battling for 3rd spot on the Jags WR roster.
You all act like he was really something.
I say we just move on.
August 21st, 2012 at 4:36 pm
Its like drafting a kicker in rd 1.. when we could have got him in rd 3..
August 21st, 2012 at 4:38 pm
I put no value on them… im saying their value goes up as the preseason goes on.. it simple stuff..
August 21st, 2012 at 4:38 pm
Marks Hair Says:
August 21st, 2012 at 4:36 pm
Its like drafting a kicker in rd 1.. when we could have got him in rd 3..
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If you’re bringing up 2000, Janikowski would not have been available in Round 2, let alone 3.
August 21st, 2012 at 4:40 pm
116.. whatever man…
August 21st, 2012 at 4:41 pm
Marks Hair Says:
August 21st, 2012 at 4:40 pm
116.. whatever man…
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Vermeil was going to take Seabass at the end of Round 1. Al beat him to the punch.
August 21st, 2012 at 4:43 pm
Not
August 21st, 2012 at 4:45 pm
Vermeil was going to take Seabass at the end of Round 1. Al beat him to the punch.
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Source? Link?
August 21st, 2012 at 4:48 pm
Raider O Says:
August 21st, 2012 at 4:45 pm
Vermeil was going to take Seabass at the end of Round 1. Al beat him to the punch.
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Source? Link?
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http://www.sfgate.com/sports/article/Janikowski-Has-Talent-But-Lugs-Baggage-Few-2765424.php
“Nonetheless, he is virtually certain to be an extremely high pick — and the Raiders are among the potential suitors. Coach Jon Gruden last week identified placekicking as the Raiders’ No. 1 priority because the team finished 28th among the 31 NFL teams last year in field-goal percentage. It also has been speculated that other decent teams with kicking needs — the Rams, Chiefs and Vikings come to mind — might take a shot at Janikowski, too.”
August 21st, 2012 at 4:51 pm
deam that was fast on the link. Duck got links
August 21st, 2012 at 4:52 pm
Rod Streater has 13 receptions this preseason. Now you have got to give Louis Murphy credit. He wants to make a good impression on his new employer. Murphy has 4.
August 21st, 2012 at 4:52 pm
I see what you mean Hair’s there value would be higher now but sometimes you gota pull the trigger and reggie pulled it too soon.
August 21st, 2012 at 4:52 pm
Not a 1st.. even in a draft as weak as 2000. Bad value.
August 21st, 2012 at 4:53 pm
McFaddens_Sneakers Says:
August 21st, 2012 at 4:51 pm
deam that was fast on the link. Duck got links
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Thank you. I just Googled “Janikowski Draft Rams” and it was maybe the fifth or sixth link.
August 21st, 2012 at 4:55 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
August 21st, 2012 at 4:52 pm
Rod Streater has 13 receptions this preseason. Now you have got to give Louis Murphy credit. He wants to make a good impression on his new employer. Murphy has 4.
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I think Criner’s got more than 4 as well. Again, Murphy would be 6th-string if he even made the team, and there’s no guarantee that anyone else would even give up a 7th-rounder at this point.
August 21st, 2012 at 4:56 pm
Marks Hair Says:
August 21st, 2012 at 4:52 pm
Not a 1st.. even in a draft as weak as 2000. Bad value.
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Again, the guy who did that is currently residing at the Chapel of Chimes. Understand he’s not real busy these days and is a WHOLE lot less argumentative, if you want to pay him a visit.
August 21st, 2012 at 4:58 pm
124. Yeah.. not a big deal.. but im used to the lakers & Al D making the trades.. and those guys dominate.. i like reg’s fa’s & pics alot more than his trades so far. Goody looks like justin fargas with little baby dlck fingers..
August 21st, 2012 at 4:58 pm
All of you guys calling Reggie’s bad moves so far are making me laugh….
He hasn’t made any bad moves…and we won’t know whether or not he has until week 3 or 4 of the regular season…
Speculating at this point through 2 pre season games is premature….
The only possible moves that Reggie has made thus far are those he hasn’t made!
August 21st, 2012 at 4:59 pm
I appreciate the link Duck, but it mentions that those teams needed a kicker, and there is no evidence that DV was going to draft him in the 1st. A high pick for a kicker can include the 2nd round too based on draft’s history.
August 21st, 2012 at 4:59 pm
The only possible “BAD” moves that Reggie has made thus far are those he hasn’t made!
August 21st, 2012 at 5:01 pm
MJD is open to trade talks, anything could happen I guess..
August 21st, 2012 at 5:01 pm
Marcel Reece @CelReece45
So I just got word that the Doctor had to step in and catch @Huffy247 baby girl because @Huffy247 has no “mitties” (hands). #congrats again
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LOL
August 21st, 2012 at 5:03 pm
LMAO @ Reece.
August 21st, 2012 at 5:04 pm
Reg: Maurice, do you want to line up with DMC and have a chance at a trophy?
MJD: Well I’m not sure sir, the money just doesn’t sound right…
Reg: No amount of money can get you a ring, son!
August 21st, 2012 at 5:04 pm
Raider O Says:
August 21st, 2012 at 4:59 pm
I appreciate the link Duck, but it mentions that those teams needed a kicker, and there is no evidence that DV was going to draft him in the 1st. A high pick for a kicker can include the 2nd round too based on draft’s history.
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I distinctly remember reading that Vermeil was going to pull the trigger, but don’t feel like looking it up and not sure I could (the publication in question might not even be in existence anymore). Vermeil never confirmed or denied it.
August 21st, 2012 at 5:04 pm
132. Thats an opinion no mater how many exclamation points you add..
August 21st, 2012 at 5:05 pm
We don’t need/ can’t afford MJD and DMAC. We need a pass rusher and a CB.
August 21st, 2012 at 5:06 pm
why is louis murphy still a topic? i’d rather have streater.
i think that teams should draft more kickers in the 1st round. points win games, and after the QB no position scores more points than kicker….man if we only had a QB to go along our kicker we would be scoring 40 every sunday!
August 21st, 2012 at 5:07 pm
Reg will do a pawn star move and get MJD for 3/mil a year.lol
August 21st, 2012 at 5:08 pm
Twitter’s kinda fallen silent on Andre Carter. Maybe his workout didn’t go well?
August 21st, 2012 at 5:08 pm
Need a back up rb so we can cut or demote goodson.. that kid should have played bball…
August 21st, 2012 at 5:09 pm
MJD…RBs have a shelf life of 8 years.the trend is to go with fresh legs and a RB by committee,gone are the days of the Emmit Smiths and Walter Paytons… RBs will earn less than kickers in the future, its just easier to replace a RB than a Kicker.
August 21st, 2012 at 5:09 pm
Andre Carter a good fit I’m sure Reggie will sign him, consider him a Raider.
We really need a big RB wish we had $ and lure when Brandon Jacobs was FA. (hurt now tho)….
unless Schmitt and Reece get carries, doesn’t look likley, thanks Knapp.
Speaking of … when I watch the Offense, I want to take a Knapp.
August 21st, 2012 at 5:09 pm
I’d like to see Goodson get some heavy PT Saturday. We need to see if last week was an aberration or he really is that bad.
August 21st, 2012 at 5:10 pm
Duck,
I’ll take your word for it bro. No sense in arguing over something that happened 12 years ago.
August 21st, 2012 at 5:11 pm
Jano has just gotten good the last couple yrs… kinda average before 2010
August 21st, 2012 at 5:11 pm
I think all is quiet on Carter because they’re signing him soon, but want the team to announce it.
August 21st, 2012 at 5:12 pm
Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
August 21st, 2012 at 5:09 pm
MJD…RBs have a shelf life of 8 years.the trend is to go with fresh legs and a RB by committee,gone are the days of the Emmit Smiths and Walter Paytons… RBs will earn less than kickers in the future, its just easier to replace a RB than a Kicker.
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Riiiight? Lanyae Miller and Jackson are thrilling to watch…. and that Goodson back is amazing with the ball. and Taiwan “made in china” Jones can’t see the field.
trouble.
August 21st, 2012 at 5:12 pm
I’m not for all this gloom and doom cry baby crap some fans are expressing on this blog but the people complaining about the value we got for Murphy and big Bruce are on to something. If we would have kept both player untill at least the third preseason game we probably would get more in return especially for Murphy, considering all the other teams in the league hurting for Wr. Were not even at the max 90 player limit. Murphy could have been shinnig for us especially with the injuries we have to our Wr corps. Big Mac might have pulled the trigger a little to fast. But in the end does it really matter, its not like those two players were all pro, at best they were stop gaps. again we could have gotten better value had we waited, but does it really matter.
August 21st, 2012 at 5:12 pm
TxRaider210 Says:
August 21st, 2012 at 5:07 pm
Reg will do a pawn star move and get MJD for 3/mil a year.lol
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LOL
What are you smoking, and please save some for me.
August 21st, 2012 at 5:15 pm
New post.
August 21st, 2012 at 5:23 pm
I got my Monday Night tickets and I can’t wait.. Lets start the season off right by kicking the chokers Ass..Lets go raiders!
August 21st, 2012 at 8:33 pm
I like DA, but having Saunders as OC was no brainer IMO . Hiring Knapp was a risk. Knapp is not a bust yet and deserves 6 games before being evaluated. I mean in reality Reggie hasnt done much except cut salary and bring in some low tier free agents who he hopes develops in to legit nfl starters. i think Reggie for some reason is getting a pass when IMO the raiders should go from 8-8 to playoffs.
August 21st, 2012 at 10:20 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
August 21st, 2012 at 3:26 pm
Raidertbone Says:
August 21st, 2012 at 3:24 pm
Reggie could work a trade for MJD — imagine both him and DMac in the same backfield!
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If Al were alive, he’d be calling Khan right now and offering next year’s #1.
Glad Reggie’s in charge instead.
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Khan won’t deal him. He isn’t alienating the fan base, and MJD has zero leverage. The only reason to make that deal is to stop the Chargers or Broncos from making that deal.
August 21st, 2012 at 10:29 pm
Raiderinparadise Says:
August 21st, 2012 at 5:09 pm
Andre Carter a good fit I’m sure Reggie will sign him, consider him a Raider.
We really need a big RB wish we had $ and lure when Brandon Jacobs was FA. (hurt now tho)….
unless Schmitt and Reece get carries, doesn’t look likley, thanks Knapp.
Speaking of … when I watch the Offense, I want to take a Knapp.
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Ryan Grant, Plax, Marcus McNeill and maybe Merriman (and we may be getting Carter)
nothings out there. Thomas Jones? Chester Taylor? Cadillac Williams? – only T.Jones is good in short yardage.
As for CB, Benny Sapp and Leigh Torrence are still out there.
August 24th, 2012 at 8:10 am
he would be a perfect fit. what would be the worst thing that could come from signing him? what he gets hurt and we’re stuck with the same group of backs we have now. our backs are garbage, he’d be an instant improvement, assuming he’s healthy.