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Coordinators pleased with progress

By Steve Corkran
Wednesday, August 22nd, 2012 at 4:23 pm in Oakland Raiders.

The third exhibition game is when teams tend to play their projected starters the longest, meaning we’ll get our best gauge of how the Raiders shape up for the regular-season opener Saturday night.
Offensive coordinator Greg Knapp and defensive coordinator Jason Tarver already have seen enough to have a pretty fair idea about where their players stand. On Wednesday, both sounded as if they are satisfied with the progress made so far in training camp.
“Applying the rules, we’ve been doing pretty well,” Tarver said. “And learning how to work together, we’ve been doing pretty well.”
Knapp seems just as confident in his offensive troops.
“Yeah, I’m pleased,” Knapp said. “It may not show up on the scoreboard right now, we need to improve our scoring production, but there’s been quite a few changeable parts on offense along with learning a new system and I did see, as I told the offense after the second game, good improvement from game one to game two. We’re moving the ball well, we just gotta do a better job of finishing.”
Sure, people want to know why Carson Palmer is forcing passes, why the Raiders aren’t punching in the ball from the 1-yard line and why the Raiders didn’t score at all against the Cowboys?
Calm down, Knapp said, in essence. This is the preseason, when teams work on things and don’t get so caught up in what the opponent is doing.
That will change, to some extent, Saturday, given the Raiders are game-planning somewhat for the Detroit Lions as a means of simulating the flow and preparation during the week of a regular-season game.
“We’re doing this week like it’s a mock in-season week, the way we teach our third-down presentation this morning, red zone, tomorrow short-yardage and goal-line,” Knapp said. “So, there’s a growth going on right now with the players and with the coaches. It’s not only we’re just coaching the players here, we’re coaching coaches because it’s a new staff being worked together and this is really the first time we’ve prepared for a game.
“Everything else has been sunny and sunshine, out here in grass and there’s no win-loss record. But now we’re preparing for a game, and it’s good practice for all of us to go through.”
Tarver said the Lions present a stern challenge for the Raiders defense in that the Lions offense does a nice job of changing the tempo, depending upon what they want to accomplish.
“I’m most interested in our process and how we handle those situations, because we haven’t gotten a lot of that yet,” Tarver said. “That’s what I’m excited about with Detroit for us. Let’s see what we can do. Player-wise, group-wise, I’m excited to watch them all.”

– Raiders coach Dennis Allen said center Stefen Wisniewski likely won’t play against the Lions, in part because of the calf injury Wisniewski suffered against the Dallas Cowboys and in part because it’s only an exhibition game.
“If we were in the regular season, could he push through and play? Probably,” Allen said. “Maybe. I don’t know. We’re not going to take that chance right now in a preseason game.”
Alex Parsons is in line to start at center Saturday. Knapp said the fact Parsons got in so much work with the first-team offense during the offseason workouts, while Wisniewski was recovering from shoulder surgery, and since Wisniewski’s most-recent injury bodes well for his making a seamless transition.

– Backup quarterback Matt Leinart participated in some drills Wednesday, with his right index finger tapes up. Allen said Leinart is healthy enough to play Saturday night. He said it will be a game-time decision.
If Leinart is held out, that means more playing time for Terrelle Pryor. It also means that Pryor would get his first shot at showing what he can do against defenders who actually might make an opening-day roster.

– Defensive tackle Richard Seymour missed practice once again. He has missed all three practices since the Raiders game against the Cardinals on Friday night.
Still, Allen said, his absence has more to do with Seymour’s age than it does with a knee that has bothered him for at least part of camp.
“It’s not an injury,” Allen said. “He’s an older veteran guy and his knees get a little sore, so we try to rest him to make sure we get him ready to play.”
Allen said Seymour “pushed real hard” early in camp, so now it’s time to put on the brakes and think long-term with the regular-season just around the corner.
“Guys can only get out and get so many … they’ve only got so many shots,” Allen said “When a guy gets more age on him, you have to be careful as far as how much you use him. The deal is, we have to get him enough work to get him ready to play but yet have him ready to play so we can have him for a full 16 games this year.”

– Tarver said for second-year cornerback DeMarcus Van Dyke to take the next step, he needs to carry over what he does in practice to the games.
“I would really like to see him play like he plays out here, and just play with what we know he can do,” Tarver said. “And he’s heard that from me this week, so that’s what I’d like to see him do. Play like he plays at practice, because he plays pretty good at practice.”
Van Dyke looked sharp early on in camp. However, he struggled in Oakland’s first two exhibition games.
Van Dyke said he is going to follow Tarver’s advice.
“I’ve just got to just go out there and play ball,” Van Dyke said. “I’m doing too much thinking I think, and coach Tarver, he gave me a lot of advice, just telling me to go out there and just play ball. Don’t worry about making mistakes, just play like I was the first two weeks of camp.”

– For those worried about Palmer’s inconsistent play the first two games, Knapp offered up this explanation:
“I’ve encouraged from Day One, my belief for a quarterback to learn a new offense, you got to try some stuff,” Knapp said. “And I’ll sacrifice some of the ups and downs that go with that. It’s like all of our professions, isn’t it? If you make some mistakes, you usually grow from it.
“And that’s what I want him to do in the preseason since the games aren’t held accountable, so to speak. You still want to win, you still want to have that taste of it, but he’s got to test himself. I don’t ever want to train a guy to be conservative from Day One. He won’t know his limits then. It’s very important that quarterbacks who are new to the system, him and Terrelle primarily here, take some chances and get a feel for, ‘OK, what can I do and what can’t I do while it’s preseason?’ ”

– Knapp called running back Darren McFadden’s number on back-to-back down plays near the goal line against the Cardinals. McFadden got stuffed both times. However, that won’t deter Knapp from going back to McFadden in similar situations.
“I’ve always had a belief that the number one back can still be the goal line back, doesn’t have to necessarily be a bigger, stronger guy,” Knapp said. “My experience tells me so. The last couple years, it was Arian Foster had a lot of success. Warrick Dunn was one the best inside tackle runners I’ve ever been around as a coach.
“It’s not just the back that requires the execution of the play. So, it didn’t bother me to have him in there, we just didn’t get it executed across the board.”

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561 Responses to “Coordinators pleased with progress”

  1. No Mas Diamante Says:

    Oline better stiffen up.

  2. Seymour Bush Says:

    Hey hey hey

  3. Seymour Bush Says:

    We are getting closer to the season starting!!

  4. J-Raider Says:

    #4

  5. J-Raider Says:

    knapp and palmer will be fine.. i have absloute faith in them.. until we start the season 0-4, then its off with his head! :)

  6. ottocrat Says:

    Oh great. Megatron’s back in town.

  7. The Beeech Dawg Says:

    Yo, just busted some major wood checking out Janet Evans back in the day

    Homegirl could do the breast stroke all night long

    On my weiner

    TAKIN’ IT BACK TO ‘92

  8. TxRaider210 Says:

    Bartell will give Mega problems, he’s played Fitz and White a lot in his career.

  9. Violent Hands Says:

    Taiwan is like a cheater if he runs to far at top speed he can overheat lol

  10. KoolKell Says:

    Offensive coordinator Greg Knapp and defensive coordinator Jason Tarver already have seen enough to have a pretty fair idea about where their players stand. On Wednesday, both sounded as if they are satisfied with the progress made so far in training camp.
    ———————-
    Hear the same thing every year, but it doesn’t match the eye.

  11. TxRaider210 Says:

    Taiwan needs to focus and save the jets for emergencies and playoffs.

  12. ottocrat Says:

    Yep. Can’t go wrong with Janet Evans. She really started getting cute post-olympics.

  13. TxRaider210 Says:

    Peace out and RYS rest yourself Randy Travis!

  14. Goldie7 Says:

    Thank You Mr Steve! I appreciate your hard work and dedication to the Raider Nation! Whew! Boy…I really enjoyed this article! Okay so let me get this straight Knapp said to calm down? Well I’m calm and I looking for improvement from our O this Saturday against the Lions. I’m thrilled Leinart is healthy and playing Saturday…dude looks sharper than Palmer and I’m a huge Palmer fan. I am soooo excited….TP6 will have players which most likely will make the roster protecting him and playing for him. I can’t wait!

  15. SaintKaufman Says:

    Draft McFadden!

  16. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    well now i feel better because krapp says it will be fine…

  17. Raider O Says:

    SaintKaufman Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 5:33 pm
    Draft McFadden!
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    LOL
    Getting flashbacks?

  18. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    SaintKaufman Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 5:33 pm
    Draft McFadden!
    _________________________________________________

    wont be making that mistake again

  19. DJ Johnny Says:

    Al, Has Knapp ever lied to us?

    I hate it when coaches tell u how good the team is DESPITE not winning.

    Derek Dooley (HC at Tenn.) said “Everything is fine. It’s just unfortunate that we don’t have those external indicators that show how good we really are yet”.

    “EXTERNAL INDICATORS”?????????? He means WINS.

    I’ll spout the age old mantra “It’s only preseason” in regard to Knapp. Cuz it’s true, but Knapp please…throw us a bone on Saturday would ya?

  20. Raider O Says:

    Draft Gholston!!
    Long is all hype and he will be a bust.
    Ellis is a beast!

    Go Buckeyes!

  21. DJ Johnny Says:

    I heard that one of the reasons Kiffin left Tenn. was becuz of all the hillbillies in Knoxville gawking at his wife all the time.

  22. burn_209 Says:

    Burn_209 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 5:35 pm
    Never understood why they delay preseason games if people don’t show up. I mean it’s preseason….games that don’t count. It could just be me because I live in Tracy but it seems like the games are on at the same time regardless if they sell out like last game or not

  23. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    samle ol’ story year in and year out i hate to say it but i’ve lost all hope

  24. Raider O Says:

    LMAO @ “external indicators”
    Thx DJ.

  25. DJ Johnny Says:

    Raider O Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 5:47 pm
    Draft Gholston!!
    Long is all hype and he will be a bust.
    Ellis is a beast!

    Go Buckeyes!

    You got Urban Meyer…you gonna be good.

  26. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    burn-209 ur a fairly new poster right?

  27. DJ Johnny Says:

    O, It’s true…he DID say that. Lol.

  28. JLofty Says:

    Yeah but Knapp is right on that point about finding out limits. I do a little racing as a hobby and when your driving a fast machine you need to find out where the limit is, preferably in practice and not the race. Cuz to find the limit means spinning out most often times or at least getting right up on the edge of control and having to fight to reign it back in.
    Now the question is do you find that out in a controlled environment like a test session (in racing) or preseason game or do you want find that out in pack of other racers when the consequences are REAL?

    People who get their panties all wadded up over preseason games and 10 year vets are missing the point. Probably forever.

  29. DJ Johnny Says:

    Mc Skinny,

    Could be an old poster that changed his name though.

  30. Raider O Says:

    DJ,

    We can’t play in a bowl game this season, so destroying Mich is a good consolation prize.

  31. burn_209 Says:

    Mcskinnnylegs Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 5:51 pm
    burn-209 ur a fairly new poster right?

    —————

    Yea about a week or so I guess. I’ve been reading the blog for a couple years but I figured I’d start posting here. And no I’m not an old poster lol

  32. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    yea i thought so burn. welcome to the chat. I remember ur post only b/c i did the same thing i read all the posts for years then started posting a few years back

  33. DJ Johnny Says:

    Raider O Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 5:55 pm
    DJ,

    We can’t play in a bowl game this season, so destroying Mich is a good consolation prize.

    For the folks in Ohio that’s more important anyway isn’t it?

  34. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    im sorry but no offense you can tell what a team is going to be like by preseason play

  35. DJ Johnny Says:

    burn_209 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 5:57 pm
    Mcskinnnylegs Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 5:51 pm
    burn-209 ur a fairly new poster right?

    —————

    Yea about a week or so I guess. I’ve been reading the blog for a couple years but I figured I’d start posting here. And no I’m not an old poster lol

    No offense Burn. I just know more than a few guys have done that.

  36. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    the 1s of course and to some extent you can see the lack of quality depth

  37. DJ Johnny Says:

    mcskinnnylegs Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 6:00 pm
    im sorry but no offense you can tell what a team is going to be like by preseason play

    It came true last yr.

    I hope what Knapp says is true in this case..that they are just “testing” and pushing limits and stuff.

  38. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    you cant tell me mike goodson fumbilitis and knapps putrid offense dont make you a little concerned

  39. burn_209 Says:

    DJ Johnny Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 6:00 pm
    burn_209 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 5:57 pm
    Mcskinnnylegs Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 5:51 pm
    burn-209 ur a fairly new poster right?

    —————

    Yea about a week or so I guess. I’ve been reading the blog for a couple years but I figured I’d start posting here. And no I’m not an old poster lol

    No offense Burn. I just know more than a few guys have done that.
    ______

    Yea I’m not a childish douchebag like that lol

  40. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    and contrary to what corky tells ya knapp did NOT call plays in houston

  41. KoolKell Says:

    Only the good things matter in preseason.

  42. JLofty Says:

    Yeah I am concerned about Goodson. I have no acceptance of fumbles. Or drops for that matter.
    You have to be Walter Freakin Payton or Eric Dickerson to make my roster if you are a fumbler…

  43. JLofty Says:

    McFadden was on my $#it list for his. He only gots the mulligan(s) cuz he’s so darn good. That and he improved…

  44. burn_209 Says:

    So if you cuss on here does it totally not let the post go through? Because I just wrote a 5 line post and I said sh!t in it and it didn’t go through

  45. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    dude m.g is not the answer neither is taiwan for when the inevitable happens

  46. Raider O Says:

    DJ Johnny Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 5:59 pm
    Raider O Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 5:55 pm
    DJ,

    We can’t play in a bowl game this season, so destroying Mich is a good consolation prize.

    For the folks in Ohio that’s more important anyway isn’t it?
    $$$$$$$$$$$$

    Not just for the great folks in the great state of Ohio, but to all Buckeyes and their fans.

    Go Buckeyes!!!
    Damn you Mich!

  47. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    lol @burn

  48. burn_209 Says:

    JLofty Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 6:08 pm
    Yeah I am concerned about Goodson. I have no acceptance of fumbles. Or drops for that matter.
    You have to be Walter Freakin Payton or Eric Dickerson to make my roster if you are a fumbler…
    ____________

    Lol ok GM JLofty

  49. KoolKell Says:

    The defense looks good in preseason………..fans accept it
    The offense looks bad in preseason…………..fans dont accept it. “it’s only preseason blah blah blah you’re a hater”

  50. Raiders for life Says:

    Remember that flea flicker in 2010. On the Raiders own goal line 1st and 10 Bush runs up the middle and fliped it back to Soup who threw to wide open Murphy. Ball came up short but….If Knapp can bend a little from his philosofy, He’s got the QB who can make that throw now.
    I hope Knapp mixes it up. When opposing defenses are putting 8 in the box because of the dink and dunk and run that creates opportunities for the WR’s.
    I’m trying to stay optomistic.

  51. burn_209 Says:

    ^fact

  52. RaidO Says:

    Knapp is still Crap

  53. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    who did the defense look good against?lets see dallas with none of their starters and AZ with kevin freaking kolb.no excitment from me doubt they’ll be any better than last year margianlly if any

  54. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    raidO love it can see it on bumper stickers now

    KNAPP IS CRAP!

  55. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Klas scored 13/15 on new Raider quiz! Hurray for Klas!

  56. RaidO Says:

    Mcskinnnylegs Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 6:21 pm
    raidO love it can see it on bumper stickers now

    KNAPP IS CRAP!
    ______________________

    LOL

  57. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    already ordering my t-shirt

  58. JLofty Says:

    Thanks Burn tough love. And yes there are random rules to posting stuff. The President’s name seems like one. One of the regulars who gets hisself banned here frequently, can’t post his name in plain text. Funny stuff. But random. Stick to the Raiders and its not too hard….lol.

    McSkinny legs, you just having a crampy day or really that down on the new era? I haven’t felt this hopeful since Al traded Gruden for a case of Macanudos….

  59. JLofty Says:

    I am off to play softball. 11-0, last game of the regular season against the perennial league power house. Playoffs clinched, sniffing a run in the dance…
    Time for some vitamin M!!!

  60. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    klas you cant use google

  61. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    Al traded Gruden for a case of Macanudos….

    ____________________________________________________

    lmao no not having a bad day im just a show me 1st guy after all these years of false hope.love my raiders just not getting excited till i see it with my own two eyes

  62. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Mcskinnnylegs Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 6:35 pm
    klas you cant use google
    ——
    I did not use the Google. I am steeped in Raider lore.

  63. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    later Jloft

  64. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    i was just busting chops klas

  65. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Klas knows.

  66. blackandsilverside Says:

    – Knapp called running back Darren McFadden’s number on back-to-back down plays near the goal line against the Cardinals. McFadden got stuffed both times. However, that won’t deter Knapp from going back to McFadden in similar situations.
    “I’ve always had a belief that the number one back can still be the goal line back, doesn’t have to necessarily be a bigger, stronger guy,” Knapp said. “My experience tells me so.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Knapp,

    I wouldn’t try punching DMAC across the line against Suh and his boys, unless you want DMAC to go down early, for the season.

    I guess you didn’t watch Lions v Ravens last Saturday: Lions defense is scary, crazy, super quick and violent and would love to stuff a 10lb DMAC in a 5lb bag.

    Besides, historically, DMAC does little against top flight defenses.

    Just be smart and limit his playing time.

  67. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Who do you all think is best fantasy RB? DMac could be if he stays healthy.

  68. KoolKell Says:

    Who is the poster in here who says RB’s were a dime per dozen? I forget his name.. Says that losing Michael Bush is peanuts…………?

  69. PlunkforHOF Says:

    Niner fans are unwelcome here

  70. Raiders for life Says:

    68
    Kell, you’re talking about 90% of the posters. I’m still waiting myself to see these dime a dozen RB’s.

  71. realtruraider Says:

    Just saw on twitter that Rams signed Golston, they must of not liked what they saw in Carter at all, lol

  72. realtruraider Says:

    Could of ben a money thing I guess

  73. blackandsilverside Says:

    PlunkforHOF Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 6:47 pm

    Niner fans are unwelcome here
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Hof, shut the F up. Don’t try to tell what I can and can’t do. Got it chump??

  74. Raiders for life Says:

    Hof, shut the F up. Don’t try to tell what I can and can’t do. Got it chump??

    ##########################

    LOL, you are a whiner!!!!

  75. realtruraider Says:

    Jeff Howe‏@jeffphowe

    Word on Andre Carter is he still lacks burst and explosion. Not close to being ready to play.

    ————————————————

    This is from a NE beat writer

  76. realtruraider Says:

    Shawntae Spencer‏@ShawntaeSpencer

    Me, @RonBartell and @LarryFitzgerald http://twitter.com/ShawntaeSpencer/status/238426942204964864/photo/1

    Retweeted by Vic Tafur

    ——————————————————

    Bartell looks like he can handle Megatron

  77. Bob Marley Says:

    Why are people so afraid of the Lions, specially their Defense?.

    We played them late last year.

    Carson Palmer completed an amazing 32 of 40 for 367 yards, 1 TD and no Int’s.

    DHB caught 8 for 155 and a TD.

    Bush had 139 yards rushing and receiving.

    And we have a Defense now, I think.

    We had those guys, we were up 13 points in the middle of the 4th quarter before collapsing, but we looked like the better team out there for all but 6 minutes of that game.

    Bring them on.

  78. bunk moorland Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 6:46 pm
    Who is the poster in here who says RB’s were a dime per dozen? I forget his name.. Says that losing Michael Bush is peanuts…………?
    ———————————————————

    the mad scientist, southeast jarome, Dr. i dont know, sherriff gonna gecha, Dolla bill, Reverend gonna change, kid bro sweets, inspector 2-2, Angel of southeast jarome, coach janky spanky.

  79. blackandsilverside Says:

    Megatron is a monster. He’s so big and tall, that his vertical leap was a good 24 inches higher than the two CBs covering him. In that way even if the pass was thrown short or out of place, Megatron would snatch it before the CB’s could make a play.

    If we can hold our own against the Lions then we can stop worrying.

  80. DJ Johnny Says:

    You tell ‘em Bob.

    WOW. Those stats from Palmer are ridculous.

    Too bad McClain whiffed and the D collapsed like that.

    Horrible experience.

  81. PlunkforHOF Says:

    Man was that ever easy.. how does Frank Gore’s nutsack taste?

  82. realtruraider Says:

    Who is the poster in here who says RB’s were a dime per dozen? I forget his name.. Says that losing Michael Bush is peanuts…………?

    ——————————————————-

    Not sure who said that in here, but I hear it alot on NFL Network, I believe its that fat fk…..yeah that one, he says that all the time

  83. Raiders for life Says:

    I’m seeing tweets about the rookie show. Anyone know what that’s all about?

  84. suprafresh Says:

    Realtruraider Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 6:57 pm
    Shawntae Spencer‏@ShawntaeSpencer

    Me, @RonBartell and @LarryFitzgerald http://twitter.com/ShawntaeSpencer/status/238426942204964864/photo/1

    Retweeted by Vic Tafur

    ——————————————————

    Bartell looks like he can handle Megatron
    __________________________________

    Now I know why cork kept saying Bartell was an intriguing physical specimen. Dude is jacked.

  85. PlunkforHOF Says:

    There is no “we” among Raider fans and Niner lovers, MR.

  86. blackandsilverside Says:

    August 22nd, 2012 at 7:00 pm

    KoolKell Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 6:46 pm
    Who is the poster in here who says RB’s were a dime per dozen? I forget his name.. Says that losing Michael Bush is peanuts…………?
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    KK, there were many posters in here who said just that: RB’s are a dime a dozen and Bush wasn’t worth 2 dead flies.

    I said many time we would rue the day we lost him. Not only does Bush have more running and passing yards than DMAC in 4 seasons, he’s a hammer at the line.

    I am not a worshiper of Bush but he did compliment the slashing over the top speed style of DMAC and held his own after DMAC went down.

    Hue, in the last 5 games made the running game one dimensional and Bush was caught in the middle, mainly running 2 to 3 times on our every possession.

    Wish we had him now.

  87. blackandsilverside Says:

    PlunkforHOF Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 7:07 pm

    There is no “we” among Raider fans and Niner lovers, MR.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    HOF, and what are you going to do about it?? Nada, baby. So crawl back under the rock from whence you slithered genius, and dine on something green and slimy.

    Get a life fool!

  88. Raiders for life Says:

    PlunkforHOF you still jammin?

  89. PlunkforHOF Says:

    HOF, and what are you going to do about it??

    ###########################################

    Just point out at every opportunity that you’re a red and gold wearing, cousin-loving, failed DJ from Sacramento who has no business discussing my beloved Oakland Raiders in the the company of grown men.

  90. blackandsilverside Says:

    PlunkforHOF,

    “Man was that ever easy.. how does Frank Gore’s nutsack taste?”
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    HOF,

    You are an idiot.

    You never even saw Plunkett play. Right now some of us would be wishing Gore was running for the Raiders.

    And, btw, if you want to keep it up, you and I can go to it 24/7 365.

    You had some interesting and meritorious posts, and some I disagreed with but I had made disparaging comments about you.

    But if you want to go that route, just tell me baby and it will on between you and me, permanently.

  91. PlunkforHOF Says:

    RfL.. in the studio tomorrow to start on six new songs

  92. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    o wow shat is about to hit the fan my spider senses tell me

  93. Raider O Says:

    I’m sure the whiners have s blog for their fairy fans.

  94. blackandsilverside Says:

    Hof,

    Hey idiot, where did you come up with the idea that I am a failed DJ from Suckramento?? I would never there and have never been a DJ.

    Maybe you and the crappy, failed mayor, Dennis Johnson can hang out together and stack BB’s all night in a corner?

  95. Raider O Says:

    a* blog …..

  96. blackandsilverside Says:

    Better yet go hang with the Maloof brothers,

  97. PlunkforHOF Says:

    lol.. I dont know any of these Sacto people you’re name-checking.. How’s your cousin looking these days?

  98. DJ Johnny Says:

    How anyone views it not withstanding, it turns out Reggie had enough money to sign Bush after all.

  99. r8eray Says:

    Skinny, hows it going? Played the new Madden yet?

  100. blackandsilverside Says:

    PlunkforHOF Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 7:16 pm

    RfL.. in the studio tomorrow to start on six new songs
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Six new songs, huh ? You going out with “Tinkerbelle and the Rocketts” now? They fed you some cheap garbage you offered to straighten out for free??

    You are starting to remind me Beeech Dawg, and that nonsense fantasy, about being a music producer.

    Beeech Dawg couldn’t get past the copyright issues for “Wrecks n Effects”, the name of a hip-hop group from the late 90’s which he seems in his fantasy world to have pirated.

    Now you announce you are going into the studio “with six new songs.”

    All the sound designers and music producers I know in Hollywood, west LA and Santa Monica are just getting their second wind and will work till midnight.

    What are you doing F’ing around on this blog harassing someone you know not, when you should be working??

  101. RaiderLen Says:

    Bob Marley Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 7:00 pm
    Why are people so afraid of the Lions, specially their Defense?.

    We played them late last year.

    Carson Palmer completed an amazing 32 of 40 for 367 yards, 1 TD and no Int’s.

    DHB caught 8 for 155 and a TD.

    Bush had 139 yards rushing and receiving.

    And we have a Defense now, I think.

    We had those guys, we were up 13 points in the middle of the 4th quarter before collapsing, but we looked like the better team out there for all but 6 minutes of that game.

    Bring them on.
    ————————————–
    Word!

    I was there.

    The 2012 version of the Raiders should be more explosive on the Offense.

    The Defense will be better by default, with huge upside.

  102. PlunkforHOF Says:

    I keep sayin.. wait until the cutdowns start and we will really see Reggie Mac in action.

  103. burn_209 Says:

    Blackandsilverside Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 7:15 pm
    PlunkforHOF,

    “Man was that ever easy.. how does Frank Gore’s nutsack taste?”
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    HOF,

    You are an idiot.

    You never even saw Plunkett play. Right now some of us would be wishing Gore was running for the Raiders.

    And, btw, if you want to keep it up, you and I can go to it 24/7 365.

    You had some interesting and meritorious posts, and some I disagreed with but I had made disparaging comments about you.

    But if you want to go that route, just tell me baby and it will on between you and me, permanently.
    ———————–

    Thats right dude! Whip it out and jack it faster and louder and show him who the alpha male is!!!!

  104. DJ Johnny Says:

    Seriously, if Blackside is MR. than he also is a master of impersonation as well as possessed of a Sybil-like personality disorder.

    I was fooled thinking Alex 7 wasn’t MR but imo Blackside is not MR.

  105. blackandsilverside Says:

    DJ Johnny:

    Who is MR? Anyway I am not him.

  106. RaiderLen Says:

    PlunkforHOF Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 7:27 pm
    I keep sayin.. wait until the cutdowns start and we will really see Reggie Mac in action.
    ——————————–
    Reggie ain’t F..ing around, nor is Allen.

    It will take some time for Reggie to get the roster to where He wants it, and the schemes of the coaches to hit full stride, but I see WINS on the horizon.

  107. RaiderLen Says:

    Blackandsilverside Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 7:30 pm
    DJ Johnny:

    Who is MR? Anyway I am not him.
    ——————————-
    Anyone care? Really?

  108. PlunkforHOF Says:

    Yes Alex 7 is surely MR. I’ve been pretty good at ferreting out his sock puppets, and BS is showing a lot of signs, in prose style and temperment that he is too..

    I could be wrong, but ANYONE who comes to this blog claiming to be both a Raider AND a Whiner fan is surely open for ridicule.

  109. Oakland Raiders News: Coaches Wisely Treating Next Game Like Regular Season | :: Sparxxrx LLC :: Says:

    [...] coordinator Greg Knapp. Check out his quote, which was captured by The Contra Costa Times‘ Steve Corkran:  We’re doing this week like it’s a mock in-season week, the way we teach our third-down [...]

  110. PlunkforHOF Says:

    One of the exciting things about the upcoming cuts is we have no idea who Reggie will target. He has his own way of doing things, and I for one am totally on board with it.

    GO RAIDERS!

  111. SR Raider Says:

    Greg “the weak link” Knapp

  112. KoolKell Says:

    Hue, in the last 5 games made the running game one dimensional and Bush was caught in the middle, mainly running 2 to 3 times on our every possession.

    Wish we had him now
    —————————–
    Don’t believe anybody else carried the ball the last 5 games except Bush.

  113. SR Raider Says:

    Jason “raider dominance” Tarver

  114. RaiderLen Says:

    PlunkforHOF Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 7:39 pm
    One of the exciting things about the upcoming cuts is we have no idea who Reggie will target. He has his own way of doing things, and I for one am totally on board with it.

    GO RAIDERS!
    ————————————–
    Reggie’s cuts will allow us to glean in real terms what He values.

    It will provide more insight as to what His MO is.

  115. PlunkforHOF Says:

    You’re right, Len.. I was thinking more along the line of who he signs from other teams, but yeah.. you got it.

  116. RaiderLen Says:

    SR Raider Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 7:41 pm
    Greg “the weak link” Knapp
    ———————————-
    If this proves to be true, Knapp will be sent packing.

    Unlike Rob Ryan and others.

  117. purvisman Says:

    PlunkforHOF Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 6:47 pm
    Niner fans are unwelcome here
    ////////////////////////////////You mean that blackandsilverandredandgoldsides guy?

  118. purvisman Says:

    Bob Marley Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 7:00 pm

    Why are people so afraid of the Lions, specially their Defense?.

    We played them late last year.

    Carson Palmer completed an amazing 32 of 40 for 367 yards, 1 TD and no Int’s.

    DHB caught 8 for 155 and a TD.

    Bush had 139 yards rushing and receiving.

    And we have a Defense now, I think.

    We had those guys, we were up 13 points in the middle of the 4th quarter before collapsing, but we looked like the better team out there for all but 6 minutes of that game.

    Bring them on.
    ////////////////////////////Dead right, Marley

  119. RaiderLen Says:

    Sooo, the #2 RB…

    Fumbles Goodson, or Hammy Jones?

  120. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “You’re right, Len.. I was thinking more along the line of who he signs from other teams, but yeah.. you got it.”

    I had that same thought today I wonder what players he has his eye on right now.

  121. Raider O Says:

    PlunkforHOF Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 7:23 pm
    lol.. I dont know any of these Sacto people you’re name-checking.. How’s your cousin looking these days?
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    LMAO
    Don’t forget to ask him about his aunt too?

  122. PlunkforHOF Says:

    RaiderLen Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 7:53 pm
    Sooo, the #2 RB…

    Fumbles Goodson, or Hammy Jones?

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Or… a Reggie pick from the 53 man cutdown?

  123. KoolKell Says:

    Purvisman Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 7:45 pm

    PlunkforHOF Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 6:47 pm

    Niner fans are unwelcome here
    ////////////////////////////////You mean that blackandsilverandredandgoldsides guy?
    ———————–
    That dude Plunkethof is in here every year, “outing fake fans” in his narrow mind. Especially this time of year. When the Raiders start losing, as they have been, you don’t hear a peep out of him.

    Raiders!

  124. RaiderFanFromJersey Says:

    Whats up Nation? It’s been a while.
    Am I the only one here that likes this kid Lonyae Miller? He seems solid. 3-4 yards a pop he’s thick. Possibly an answer on the goal line.

  125. purvisman Says:

    LMAO
    Don’t forget to ask him about his aunt too?/////////////////////////big boobs or something?

  126. RaiderLen Says:

    I’ve read the DMAC is an Every Down Back.

    That tells me he will spend a lot of time splitting out, motioning, and in general finding ways to get into space.

    I like this.

  127. RaiderLen Says:

    RaiderFanFromJersey Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 7:55 pm
    Whats up Nation? It’s been a while.
    Am I the only one here that likes this kid Lonyae Miller? He seems solid. 3-4 yards a pop he’s thick. Possibly an answer on the goal line.
    ————————————–
    Based on the 1st pre season game, my impression was that He’s not an NFL back. Just my observation.

  128. RaiderFanFromJersey Says:

    RaiderLen Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 7:53 pm
    Sooo, the #2 RB…

    Fumbles Goodson, or Hammy Jones?

    *********************************

    I like Goodson’s talent but hate a fumbler. I’d prefer Taiwan or Lanyae. I like what I’ve seen so far from Miller.

  129. Raiders for life Says:

    91.PlunkforHOF Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 7:16 pm
    RfL.. in the studio tomorrow to start on six new songs

    ######################

    Right on my Raider/guitar playin brother. Keep those tips calloused.

  130. PlunkforHOF Says:

    lol… was anyone speaking to, or about you Widow’s Peak? Or did you just need an excuse to dog the Raiders?

  131. RaiderLen Says:

    PlunkforHOF Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 7:54 pm
    RaiderLen Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 7:53 pm
    Sooo, the #2 RB…

    Fumbles Goodson, or Hammy Jones?

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Or… a Reggie pick from the 53 man cutdown?
    ——————————–
    Maybe Plunk, I doubt it though. Reggie traded for Goodson, that tells me He saw something.

    Jones, if healthy, could be lethal.

  132. RaiderFanFromJersey Says:

    RaiderLen Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 7:57 pm
    RaiderFanFromJersey Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 7:55 pm
    Whats up Nation? It’s been a while.
    Am I the only one here that likes this kid Lonyae Miller? He seems solid. 3-4 yards a pop he’s thick. Possibly an answer on the goal line.
    ————————————–
    Based on the 1st pre season game, my impression was that He’s not an NFL back. Just my observation.

    ———————–

    The AZ game moreso than Dallas had me impressed. Maybe that was AZ’s lackluster 2s & 3s or maybe the bad taste left in my mouth from Goodson’s fumblitis. But re-watching the game I kept finding myself saying “I like this kid Miller.”

  133. Raider O Says:

    LMAO
    Don’t forget to ask him about his aunt too?/////////////////////////big boobs or something?
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    I never met her, but MR thinks she is hot.

  134. RaiderLen Says:

    RaiderFanFromJersey Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 8:02 pm
    The AZ game moreso than Dallas had me impressed. Maybe that was AZ’s lackluster 2s & 3s or maybe the bad taste left in my mouth from Goodson’s fumblitis. But re-watching the game I kept finding myself saying “I like this kid Miller.”
    ————————————–
    I hope what you saw is more accurate than my impression.

    It’s all about finding the right guys to provide what’s needed to Win.

  135. RaiderLen Says:

    Big Boobs = Pleasure Pillows….lol

  136. PlunkforHOF Says:

    I really feel like we need my boy DWow back.. but this unending, no new news, hammy issue has me worried.

  137. RaiderLen Says:

    PlunkforHOF Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 8:06 pm
    I really feel like we need my boy DWow back.. but this unending, no new news, hammy issue has me worried.
    ——————————
    I don’t follow any other NFL teams, but I’d be curious to know if the Raiders have more hammy issues than the average team.

    Seems like it’s an issue every year.

  138. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “Am I the only one here that likes this kid Lonyae Miller? He seems solid. 3-4 yards a pop he’s thick. Possibly an answer on the goal line.”

    I feel that way as well and he holds on to the ball, you cant expect him to be as fast as McFadden. I like him as a short yardage goal line RB. I hope he makes the team.

  139. PlunkforHOF Says:

    RaiderLen Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 8:08 pm
    PlunkforHOF Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 8:06 pm
    I really feel like we need my boy DWow back.. but this unending, no new news, hammy issue has me worried.
    ——————————
    I don’t follow any other NFL teams, but I’d be curious to know if the Raiders have more hammy issues than the average team.

    Seems like it’s an issue every year.

    &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&

    Sure does

  140. RaiderFanFromJersey Says:

    I was optimistic about Goodson when we got him from Carolina. I heard about the butter fingers but was hoping he would do what it takes to control that so he can extend his career. Then in his first chance to prove himself to the Nation, he puts the ball on the ground 3 times!!! (One they called him down by contact but it still came out). I can’t stand a fumbler!!!

  141. PlunkforHOF Says:

    Just sayin.. I noticed the sock puppet has retreated, as usual.

  142. RaiderLen Says:

    RaiderFanFromJersey Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 8:10 pm
    I was optimistic about Goodson when we got him from Carolina. I heard about the butter fingers but was hoping he would do what it takes to control that so he can extend his career. Then in his first chance to prove himself to the Nation, he puts the ball on the ground 3 times!!! (One they called him down by contact but it still came out). I can’t stand a fumbler!!!
    —————————————
    I don’t know how old you are, but Wendel Tyler comes to mind.

  143. SR Raider Says:

    Reggie will pick up a late # 2 RB. Health of all current rb’s on roster is questionable

  144. KoolKell Says:

    Miller looks like a 3-4 yd guy and a pile of dust.

  145. RaiderFanFromJersey Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:

    I feel that way as well and he holds on to the ball, you cant expect him to be as fast as McFadden. I like him as a short yardage goal line RB. I hope he makes the team.

    +++++++++++++++++++++

    Give him Goodson’s spot if he doesnt show us something in these last two preseason games. I’ll take a boring 3 ypc back over an explosive turnover prone guy anyday of the week. Turnovers = losses

  146. PlunkforHOF Says:

    RaiderFanFromJersey Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 8:13 pm
    Silverandblack666 Says:

    I feel that way as well and he holds on to the ball, you cant expect him to be as fast as McFadden. I like him as a short yardage goal line RB. I hope he makes the team.

    +++++++++++++++++++++

    Give him Goodson’s spot if he doesnt show us something in these last two preseason games. I’ll take a boring 3 ypc back over an explosive turnover prone guy anyday of the week. Turnovers = losses

    _____________________________________

    co-signed

  147. RaiderLen Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 8:12 pm
    Miller looks like a 3-4 yd guy and a pile of dust.
    ————————
    Exactly, IF the line gets it blocked properly.

    No explosion whatsoever.

  148. KoolKell Says:

    Right now, I’ll take 3-4yds and a pile of dust.

  149. RaiderFanFromJersey Says:

    derFanFromJersey Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 8:13 pm
    Silverandblack666 Says:

    I feel that way as well and he holds on to the ball, you cant expect him to be as fast as McFadden. I like him as a short yardage goal line RB. I hope he makes the team.

    ——————–

    And to that we don’t need him to have DMAC’s speed – we have Taiwan for that. We need him to be a change the pace bruiser type. A poor man’s Michael Bush.
    Damn I miss that guy. Watching him play for Chicago the other night looking good lumped my throat a little bit.

  150. RaiderLen Says:

    SR Raider Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 8:12 pm
    Reggie will pick up a late # 2 RB. Health of all current rb’s on roster is questionable
    ————————–
    Fact. I would add that I don’t think Reggie is willing to play a waiting game with 2nd or 3rd options.

    So…Jones needs to get healthy, and stay healthy, and Goodson has to demonstrate in the next 2 weeks that he can hang on to the ball.

  151. Silverandblack666 Says:

    McFadden has explosion Miller would be the road grader change of pace back.

  152. RaiderLen Says:

    Mike Bush in Oakland was twinkle toes…

    Dude thought he was Gayle Sayers.

    He was not good in short yardage.

  153. KoolKell Says:

    Twinkle toes? Lol.

  154. RaiderFanFromJersey Says:

    Len,
    If the line doesn’t block it properly, we’re doomed no matter who’s back there. Gimmie a guy I can expect positive yards out of and will not give it away. A 30 yard run is nice but if you cough it up on the next carry, what good is it?

  155. Mr Green Says:

    :mrgreen:

  156. RaiderLen Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 8:21 pm
    McFadden has explosion Miller would be the road grader change of pace back.
    ———————————
    I’ll put this another way…

    Miller is slow to hit the hole, and lacks vision to find the hole if the blocking breaks down.

  157. Whats a Drexl? Says:

    The 2004 Pats went 1-3 in preseason games and won the super bowl the same year.

    Quit crying about the Raids and what they do during preseason games.

    In Amy, err DA I trust!!

  158. KoolKell Says:

    Gained almost a 1,000yds for us, and some real homer like fan, calls Mike Bush twinkle toes.

  159. Seymour Bush Says:

    RaiderFanFromJersey Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 8:02 pm

    RaiderLen Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 7:57 pm
    RaiderFanFromJersey Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 7:55 pm
    Whats up Nation? It’s been a while.
    Am I the only one here that likes this kid Lonyae Miller? He seems solid. 3-4 yards a pop he’s thick. Possibly an answer on the goal line.
    ————————————–
    Based on the 1st pre season game, my impression was that He’s not an NFL back. Just my observation.

    ———————–

    The AZ game moreso than Dallas had me impressed. Maybe that was AZ’s lackluster 2s & 3s or maybe the bad taste left in my mouth from Goodson’s fumblitis. But re-watching the game I kept finding myself saying “I like this kid Miller.”
    =============================================

    I like Miller. AZ’s 2’s and 3’s weren’t lackluster either. What you saw was a young back getting some confidence and running harder and more decisively that second game. That can only be a good thing.

  160. KoolKell Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 8:24 pm

    Gained almost a 1,000yds for us, and some real homer like fan, calls Mike Bush twinkle toes.
    ———————–
    The so-called “real fans” no less. Not some “Hater”

  161. RaiderLen Says:

    I don’t like hating on Miller, I think that If we are looking for 3-4 yds and a cloud of dust, there will be better options in the offing.

    Just my opinion.

  162. RaiderFanFromJersey Says:

    RaiderLen Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 8:21 pm
    Mike Bush in Oakland was twinkle toes…

    Dude thought he was Gayle Sayers.

    He was not good in short yardage.

    —————————

    Bush has a career average of 4+ ypc. I’ll take him over 85% of the RBs in the NFL.

  163. RaiderLen Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 8:24 pm
    Gained almost a 1,000yds for us, and some real homer like fan, calls Mike Bush twinkle toes.
    ——————————-
    Everyone see’s what they want to see Kell.

    Mike Bush is a back up, and overpaid at that.

    He plays smaller than His size.

    Did you just call me a “homer like” fan?

  164. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “Miller is slow to hit the hole, and lacks vision to find the hole if the blocking breaks down.”

    Yes I saw some of that too its almost like handing off to a FB at times I am hoping the Oline gets better at this scheme and creates holes big enough that fat Sapp could run through them.

  165. KoolKell Says:

    Lol, yes.

  166. RaiderLen Says:

    RaiderFanFromJersey Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 8:26 pm
    RaiderLen Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 8:21 pm
    Mike Bush in Oakland was twinkle toes…

    Dude thought he was Gayle Sayers.

    He was not good in short yardage.

    —————————

    Bush has a career average of 4+ ypc. I’ll take him over 85% of the RBs in the NFL.
    ———————————–
    What were his ave yds per carry the last 5 games last year?

    Would you make Him a feature back on your team?

  167. eastoaklandraider Says:

    I think when people talk about RBs being a dime a dozen is that most running backs will do ok behind a good O-line. for example now this is just my opinion Barrry Sanders was the greatest rb ever behind some crappy O-lines on the other hand Emmit Smith was an Good back behind an HOF O-line. Now if we switched the two and put Barry on DAL an Emmit on DET what would be the outcome? a lot less fame an fortune imo and Barry would probably have put ridiculous numbers. So imo it is more about the O-line than the back you have not to say the back doesnt matter but you have backs that suck (justin fargas) and backs who are Great (DMC) but they will only be as good as their O-line. The exception to that is the ZBS TDAVIS Olandis Garry & Rueben Droungs Tdavis being the only Great of the three in the old denver days.

  168. RaiderLen Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 8:30 pm
    Lol, yes.
    ———————–
    What’s that mean exactly Kell?

  169. KoolKell Says:

    You know what it means Len, a fan who always agrees with the Team decisions.

  170. RaiderLen Says:

    Eastoaklandraider Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 8:31 pm
    I think when people talk about RBs being a dime a dozen is that most running backs will do ok behind a good O-line. for example now this is just my opinion Barrry Sanders was the greatest rb ever behind some crappy O-lines on the other hand Emmit Smith was an Good back behind an HOF O-line. Now if we switched the two and put Barry on DAL an Emmit on DET what would be the outcome? a lot less fame an fortune imo and Barry would probably have put ridiculous numbers. So imo it is more about the O-line than the back you have not to say the back doesnt matter but you have backs that suck (justin fargas) and backs who are Great (DMC) but they will only be as good as their O-line. The exception to that is the ZBS TDAVIS Olandis Garry & Rueben Droungs Tdavis being the only Great of the three in the old denver days.
    ————————————–
    Agreed.

    Think of Mark Van Egan.

    Behind Shell, Upshaw, and Co. He rushed for over a 1000 yards.

  171. RaiderFanFromJersey Says:

    RaiderLen Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 8:31 pm

    Would you make Him a feature back on your team?

    —————–

    In a one back offense? No. There are only a handful of backs that can do it all on there own. Most teams need 2-3 guys to get the job done. I’d take him as the #1 of a 2-3 back system.

  172. Raiderbuck Says:

    Is that why we suck? Because these guys “are pleased”?

    Man, look at some good teams then overlay the Raiders. See what’s up with that. I hope I wrong as I can be about this, but I don’t think so.

  173. RaiderFanFromJersey Says:

    Enough about guys we don’t have; I want OUR guys to make this decision a tough one because you don’t want to cut any of them. Wishful thinking…it’s that time of year, lol.

  174. RaiderLen Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 8:34 pm
    You know what it means Len, a fan who always agrees with the Team decisions.
    ————————————
    Thanks for the definition.

    You assume way to much.

    Your prerogative.

    It make’s you look foolish.

  175. Raider O Says:

    Homer, Hater, Troll, not a fan, etc……… Because people don’t agree with your opinions?
    WTF is wrong with you people?

  176. RaiderLen Says:

    RaiderFanFromJersey Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 8:35 pm
    RaiderLen Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 8:31 pm

    Would you make Him a feature back on your team?

    —————–

    In a one back offense? No. There are only a handful of backs that can do it all on there own. Most teams need 2-3 guys to get the job done. I’d take him as the #1 of a 2-3 back system.
    ———————————–
    Would you pay him 6 mil a season to do it?

  177. Raider O Says:

    -If you don’t think Gannon is a HOF QB then you are a troll and a broncos fan.
    -if you think Palmer throws a lot of INTs, then you are a hater.
    -if you think Knapp has issues with scoring, then you are an idiot, hater, and not a real fan.
    -if you think Bush wasn’t a real power back, then you are a homer.

    You People…… Grow up!

  178. RaiderFanFromJersey Says:

    RaiderLen Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 8:41 pm

    Would you pay him 6 mil a season to do it?

    —————-

    Ahhh, that would probably be the deal breaker as it was for Reggie.

  179. RaiderLen Says:

    Raider O Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 8:43 pm
    -If you don’t think Gannon is a HOF QB then you are a troll and a broncos fan.
    -if you think Palmer throws a lot of INTs, then you are a hater.
    -if you think Knapp has issues with scoring, then you are an idiot, hater, and not a real fan.
    -if you think Bush wasn’t a real power back, then you are a homer.

    You People…… Grow up!
    ——————————————-
    Raider O on point.

  180. RaiderLen Says:

    RaiderFanFromJersey Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 8:44 pm
    RaiderLen Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 8:41 pm

    Would you pay him 6 mil a season to do it?

    —————-

    Ahhh, that would probably be the deal breaker as it was for Reggie.
    ————————————–
    I don’t dislike Bush Per sey, just the cost of doing business.

  181. nyraider Says:

    implementing a ZBS with Dmac as the featured back could be as dumb as Hue saying he was going to fix the penalty issues

  182. RaiderLen Says:

    Nyraider Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 8:49 pm
    implementing a ZBS with Dmac as the featured back could be as dumb as Hue saying he was going to fix the penalty issues
    ————————
    You are right.

    He’s looked terrible so far. lol

  183. Seymour Bush Says:

    RaiderLen Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 8:31 pm

    What were his ave yds per carry the last 5 games last year?
    =========================================

    Unofficially: 93 carries for 309 yards. Not very good. 3.32/attempt. Now there were a couple of games that we were out of early, and he also had a few receptions, but Mike clearly wore out at the end of last year.

  184. Raiders for life Says:

    Bears agreed to terms with RB Michael Bush on a four-year, $14 million contract

    Thats not exactly 6 mil a year

  185. Raider O Says:

    Len,

    People are starting to walk on eggshells to state their opinions about their team.

  186. RaiderLen Says:

    Mike Bush is out of shape and is not an every down back.

    His greatest attribute…size, is not used, because he never squares up on someone.

    He tries to twinkle toe around people like He is Gayle Sayers.

  187. RaiderLen Says:

    Raiders For Life Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 8:51 pm
    Bears agreed to terms with RB Michael Bush on a four-year, $14 million contract

    Thats not exactly 6 mil a year
    ——————————-
    OK, still your guy?

  188. nyraider Says:

    really believe DA will make a big improvement defensively. Just wish he would have had saunders as OC. Our offense without a ZBS and healthy DMac directed by saunders would have been very tough to deal with.

  189. Raiders for life Says:

    LOL, Bush making about 3.5 mil a year is still better than any back up to DMAC currently on the roster.

  190. RaiderLen Says:

    Raiders For Life Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 8:57 pm
    LOL, Bush making about 3.5 mil a year is still better than any back up to DMAC currently on the roster.
    ——————————-
    The question is he better at 7.742 million in the 1st year?

    That what the Bears will pay.

  191. nyraider Says:

    Bush was a positive for the raiders for all the years he played for them. Not sure worth 3.5 , but its debatable either way. I felt a big positive was his good relationship with Dmac ..

  192. RaiderLen Says:

    Nyraider Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 8:56 pm
    really believe DA will make a big improvement defensively. Just wish he would have had saunders as OC. Our offense without a ZBS and healthy DMac directed by saunders would have been very tough to deal with.
    —————————————————–
    Saunders is there, less input “maybe?”, but he didn’t coordinate the O last year either.

    He has input, and is highly regarded.

  193. Raiders for life Says:

    The question is he better at 7.742 million in the 1st year?

    That what the Bears will pay.

    ###################

    NOPE. Didn’t know the bears had to fork out that much.

  194. RaiderLen Says:

    Raider O Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 8:52 pm
    Len,

    People are starting to walk on eggshells to state their opinions about their team.
    ———————————-
    You think so O?

    I’m not here enough to know.

  195. RaiderLen Says:

    Raiders For Life Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 9:03 pm
    The question is he better at 7.742 million in the 1st year?

    That what the Bears will pay.

    ###################

    NOPE. Didn’t know the bears had to fork out that much.
    ————————————
    7 million dollar signing bonus.

  196. nyraider Says:

    RaiderLen Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 9:02 pm
    Nyraider Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 8:56 pm
    really believe DA will make a big improvement defensively. Just wish he would have had saunders as OC. Our offense without a ZBS and healthy DMac directed by saunders would have been very tough to deal with.
    —————————————————–
    Saunders is there, less input “maybe?”, but he didn’t coordinate the O last year either.

    He has input, and is highly regarded.
    ————————————————–
    understood, but to me DMAC is the closest thing we have to having a franchise player. Of course his injuries may negate some of that optimism, but when hes right hes a dominate force. so why would we implement a system that limits his abilities. To me its like having a system for payton manning without the ability to audible.

  197. Raiders for life Says:

    Raiders for life Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 9:03 pm
    The question is he better at 7.742 million in the 1st year?

    That what the Bears will pay.

    #############################

    And at that price, it pretty much puts the Bush debate to bed.

  198. nyraider Says:

    Raiders For Life Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 9:08 pm
    Raiders for life Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 9:03 pm
    The question is he better at 7.742 million in the 1st year?

    That what the Bears will pay.

    #############################

    And at that price, it pretty much puts the Bush debate to bed.
    ——————————-
    Bush’s agent should win agent of the year if he collects close to 8 mil

  199. Raider O Says:

    Len,

    Some People are starting to say “I’m not a hater” before they state their opinions.

  200. RaiderLen Says:

    Nyraider Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 9:08 pm
    RaiderLen Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 9:02 pm
    Nyraider Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 8:56 pm
    really believe DA will make a big improvement defensively. Just wish he would have had saunders as OC. Our offense without a ZBS and healthy DMac directed by saunders would have been very tough to deal with.
    —————————————————–
    Saunders is there, less input “maybe?”, but he didn’t coordinate the O last year either.

    He has input, and is highly regarded.
    ————————————————–
    understood, but to me DMAC is the closest thing we have to having a franchise player. Of course his injuries may negate some of that optimism, but when hes right hes a dominate force. so why would we implement a system that limits his abilities. To me its like having a system for payton manning without the ability to audible.
    ———————————————–
    From what I’ve been able to gather, the opposite will be true.

    DMAC will be used to exploit match ups by motioning him out of the back fiel, and setting him up out wide.

    The Offense will use him in multiple sets and formations, and not just as a split set or I running back.

  201. Tricky70390 Says:

    I like Tarver’s fiery demeanor with the press. Reminds me of a defensive-minded Gruden.

  202. RaiderLen Says:

    Raider O Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 9:14 pm
    Len,

    Some People are starting to say “I’m not a hater” before they state their opinions.
    ———————————–
    lol…. Thanks O.

    People are feeling bullied..lol

    Sad.

    Ahem…”I’m not a hater but…” Wiz II has me worried.

    Is he injury prone and unreliable?

    Can I trust Him?

  203. JB Says:

    RaiderLen Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 8:54 pm

    Mike Bush is out of shape and is not an every down back.

    His greatest attribute…size, is not used, because he never squares up on someone.

    He tries to twinkle toe around people like He is Gayle Sayers.
    **************************

    100% correct. Unfortunately he’s NO Gayle Sayers. When put into a #1 RB position, after DMac went down, he showed that he’s simply an ordinary RB. He was terrible in the last 6 games averaging 1.8 YPC. That’s pretty sad. Plus, he doesn’t give it is all when it doesn’t suit him. He’s a terrible backfield blocker and in reality, is a real liability to your QB’s health. We can do better.

  204. Raider O Says:

    LOL
    Hater Alert!!!!
    OMG…. He is badmouthing the wiz…. Are you a real fan?

    Injuries are part of the game, and he played injured most of last year, so I’m not concerned. He wasn’t injury prone in college, so I’m not worried about him. I worry more about Moore and Jones when it comes to injuries.

  205. RaiderLen Says:

    Phillp Wheeler will be our most productive LB this season.

    Great signing by the Reggime.

  206. RaiderLen Says:

    Raider O Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 9:25 pm
    LOL
    Hater Alert!!!!
    OMG…. He is badmouthing the wiz…. Are you a real fan?

    Injuries are part of the game, and he played injured most of last year, so I’m not concerned. He wasn’t injury prone in college, so I’m not worried about him. I worry more about Moore and Jones when it comes to injuries.
    ——————————-
    : )

  207. bassy Says:

    I hope knapp can do a better job this time around. Last time the offense was stagnant. Our goaline offense needs to improve. I hope he has some better plays around the goal line than he showed last week. Our d-line looks promising. Opposing qb’s should be afraid. be very afraid. We are talking to you Peyton!

  208. Raider O Says:

    Wheeler is a beast. The guy plays fast and hard. 750K is a steal.

  209. RaiderLen Says:

    Bassy Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 9:28 pm
    I hope knapp can do a better job this time around. Last time the offense was stagnant. Our goaline offense needs to improve. I hope he has some better plays around the goal line than he showed last week. Our d-line looks promising. Opposing qb’s should be afraid. be very afraid. We are talking to you Peyton!
    ———————————————-
    If Healthy, the O is very talented, Knapp has lot’s of toys. I expect that we will score regularly.

  210. 504 Raider Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 6:46 pm
    Who is the poster in here who says RB’s were a dime per dozen? I forget his name.. Says that losing Michael Bush is peanuts…………?
    ————————————————————————————————————–

    I’m just getting home and cathing up on the threads. I was one who said BUSH IS GARBAGE.

    Here ya go again Kell: Michael Bush is Garbage (not hot garbage) just room temperature garbage. Stinks at times but still garbage nonetheless.

    On his bad days he reminds of that bathroom at the park in the Cabrini Green projects in that movie “Candyman.”

  211. RaiderLen Says:

    Raider O Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 9:30 pm
    Wheeler is a beast. The guy plays fast and hard. 750K is a steal.
    ———————————–
    Dude is making 750? Damn…

    That’s a big win for the Reggime.

  212. JB Says:

    In looking for the illusive BIG back for that all important
    goal line rush in the red zone, who now on our squad would be the best Refrigerator Perry candidate to fill that role?

    Houston perhaps? Your prospect?

  213. Raider O Says:

    I hope Curry can recover. Him, McClain, and Wheeler can punish people especially with our DL.

  214. Kirk Says:

    There has been a lot of criticism of Palmer in the last game, but if you look at the video, he was running for his life most of the time.

    When Leinart came in, they kept the backs in to block on passes, and he had more time against 2nd team defense.

  215. 504 Raider Says:

    211.RaiderLen Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 9:33 pm
    Raider O Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 9:30 pm
    Wheeler is a beast. The guy plays fast and hard. 750K is a steal.
    ———————————–
    Dude is making 750? Damn…

    That’s a big win for the Reggime.
    ————————————————————————————————————–

    Yep and it’s a damn shame his salary this year is less than a Seymour game check.

  216. Kirk Says:

    JB Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 9:33 pm
    In looking for the illusive BIG back for that all important
    goal line rush in the red zone, who now on our squad would be the best Refrigerator Perry candidate to fill that role?

    Houston perhaps? Your prospect?

    ………………………………………….

    They changes the rules, so you can’t do that anymore.

    I vote for Miller. I thought he looked really strong.

  217. JB Says:

    Kirk,

    What rule change? That’s news to me.

  218. RaiderLen Says:

    I love Curry’s attitude.

    I hope for Him and the Raiders that he can get healthy and kick some ass.

    I believe that Allen/Tarver can get the most from Him.

  219. 504 Raider Says:

    212.JB Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 9:33 pm
    In looking for the illusive BIG back for that all important
    goal line rush in the red zone, who now on our squad would be the best Refrigerator Perry candidate to fill that role?

    Houston perhaps? Your prospect?

    ————————————————————————————————————–

    I think Houston played FB in high school. Good Choice.

  220. JB Says:

    Yes Houston did. But I’m not aware of the rule change Kirk mentioned. So, maybe we cant take that path.

  221. 504 Raider Says:

    The beauty of the SEC!

    http://www.nola.com/lsu/index.ssf/2012/08/lsu_football_coach_les_miles_s_28.html#incart_river_default

  222. RaiderLen Says:

    504 Raider Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 9:37 pm
    212.JB Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 9:33 pm
    In looking for the illusive BIG back for that all important
    goal line rush in the red zone, who now on our squad would be the best Refrigerator Perry candidate to fill that role?

    Houston perhaps? Your prospect?

    ————————————————————————————————————–

    I think Houston played FB in high school. Good Choice.
    ———————————–
    Guys on the current roster…Houston.

    He was a RB in HS. And a real good one.

  223. DJ Johnny Says:

    RaiderLen Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 8:35 pm
    Eastoaklandraider Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 8:31 pm
    I think when people talk about RBs being a dime a dozen is that most running backs will do ok behind a good O-line. for example now this is just my opinion Barrry Sanders was the greatest rb ever behind some crappy O-lines on the other hand Emmit Smith was an Good back behind an HOF O-line. Now if we switched the two and put Barry on DAL an Emmit on DET what would be the outcome? a lot less fame an fortune imo and Barry would probably have put ridiculous numbers. So imo it is more about the O-line than the back you have not to say the back doesnt matter but you have backs that suck (justin fargas) and backs who are Great (DMC) but they will only be as good as their O-line. The exception to that is the ZBS TDAVIS Olandis Garry & Rueben Droungs Tdavis being the only Great of the three in the old denver days.
    ————————————–
    Agreed.

    Think of Mark Van Egan.

    Behind Shell, Upshaw, and Co. He rushed for over a 1000 yards.

    …and Van Eeghan did it in a 14 game season….3 straight times. Good ole # 30 finished with a career 4.0 ypc.

  224. JB Says:

    Anyone think he couldn’t get a consistent 2 YPC? Problem solved.

  225. Raider O Says:

    RaiderLen Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 9:31 pm
    Bassy Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 9:28 pm
    I hope knapp can do a better job this time around. Last time the offense was stagnant. Our goaline offense needs to improve. I hope he has some better plays around the goal line than he showed last week. Our d-line looks promising. Opposing qb’s should be afraid. be very afraid. We are talking to you Peyton!
    ———————————————-
    If Healthy, the O is very talented, Knapp has lot’s of toys. I expect that we will score regularly.
    $$$$$$$$$$$

    I’m not a hater or a broncos fan trying to gather intel (lol), but I’m not sold on Knapp. He has issues with scoring. The last 4 years of his career as OC, his teams ranked in the 20’s in scoring. There is a reason why he sent the last 2 years as a QB coach.

  226. 504 Raider Says:

    SHHIIIDDDD as big and explosive off the ball as Houston is, he would probably run straight into the goal post and get a Stinger.

  227. DJ Johnny Says:

    People forget how good Van Eeghan was. In ‘78 he finished 2nd in the NFL in rushing with 1,273 yds. and 9 td’s.

  228. JB Says:

    Or Knock it over!

  229. RaiderLen Says:

    Knapp has to demonstrate.

    He has the tools and no excuses.

    Wheat from chaff.

    We shall see.

    The Reggime is watching.

  230. RaiderLen Says:

    504 Raider Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 9:46 pm
    SHHIIIDDDD as big and explosive off the ball as Houston is, he would probably run straight into the goal post and get a Stinger.
    —————————————
    LOL!

  231. RaiderLen Says:

    DJ Johnny Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 9:46 pm
    People forget how good Van Eeghan was. In ‘78 he finished 2nd in the NFL in rushing with 1,273 yds. and 9 td’s.
    ———————————
    You’re right DJ

    We do forget.

  232. bassy Says:

    RaiderLen Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 9:31 pm
    Bassy Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 9:28 pm
    I hope knapp can do a better job this time around. Last time the offense was stagnant. Our goaline offense needs to improve. I hope he has some better plays around the goal line than he showed last week. Our d-line looks promising. Opposing qb’s should be afraid. be very afraid. We are talking to you Peyton!
    ———————————————-
    If Healthy, the O is very talented, Knapp has lot’s of toys. I expect that we will score regularly.
    $$$$$$$$$$$

    I’m not a hater or a broncos fan trying to gather intel (lol), but I’m not sold on Knapp. He has issues with scoring. The last 4 years of his career as OC, his teams ranked in the 20’s in scoring. There is a reason why he sent the last 2 years as a QB coach.
    ——————————————
    That is my concern too. We need TD’s not FG’s. You can’t run zone blocking at the goalline when the D has that many men in the box. The play takes too long to develop and the defense has too much time to make a play. Run a power formation, play action or a toss to Mcfadden. He has the speed to make it to the outside.

  233. RaiderLen Says:

    JB Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 9:47 pm
    Or Knock it over!
    —————————-
    I’d love to see that.

    Another great moment in Raider history.

    It would be replayed forever.

  234. zopi Says:

    The Raiders season goes as DMAC goes, if he lasts 16 games the sky is the limit even with Palmer at Qb. The offense has to be centered around DMAC first then open everything else up. Use DMAC wisely though, but he has to have at least 25 touches a game.

  235. bassy Says:

    I like Knapps offense, but he needs to get more creative in the red zone. We can’t settle for FG’s.

  236. RaiderLen Says:

    Zopi Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 9:51 pm
    The Raiders season goes as DMAC goes, if he lasts 16 games the sky is the limit even with Palmer at Qb. The offense has to be centered around DMAC first then open everything else up. Use DMAC wisely though, but he has to have at least 25 touches a game.
    ———————————————
    The Raiders will establish the run,and make big plays from play action.

    DMAC for 16 = playoffs for sure.

  237. RaiderLen Says:

    Bassy Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 9:53 pm
    I like Knapps offense, but he needs to get more creative in the red zone. We can’t settle for FG’s.
    ———————————
    We don’t know squat about his creativity yet.

    Gotta play a real game or two.

  238. JB Says:

    RaiderLen Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 9:51 pm

    JB Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 9:47 pm
    Or Knock it over!
    —————————-
    I’d love to see that.

    Another great moment in Raider history.

    It would be replayed forever.
    ************************

    Actually there was a Raider who broke the goal posts with I believe it was a forearm smash. BIG Bob Brown RT acquired from the Rams back in late 60’s or 70’s.

  239. Raidernationdave Says:

    Dude a few years ago the Raiders went 4-0 in pre-season. I think they finished 5-11!!!

    Obviously you must be talking out of your a88 because your head should know better.

  240. Raidernationdave Says:

    Dude a few years ago the Raiders went 4-0 in pre-season. I think they finished 5-11!!!

    Obviously you must be talking out of your a88 because your head should know better.++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    mcskinnnylegs Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 6:00 pm

    im sorry but no offense you can tell what a team is going to be like by preseason play

  241. RaiderLen Says:

    JB Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 9:56 pm
    RaiderLen Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 9:51 pm

    JB Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 9:47 pm
    Or Knock it over!
    —————————-
    I’d love to see that.

    Another great moment in Raider history.

    It would be replayed forever.
    ************************

    Actually there was a Raider who broke the goal posts with I believe it was a forearm smash. BIG Bob Brown RT acquired from the Rams back in late 60’s or 70’s.
    ———————————–
    You’re right JB.

    It was in practice.

  242. RaiderLen Says:

    It’s been fun…

    Later

  243. KoolKell Says:

    I don’t know how many “toys” Knapp has considering the injuries. But, can he use them? His pedigree ain’t exactly HOF material.

    I’ve never liked the Dink & Dunk. I’ve always liked, er Al Davis offense (Sid Gillman) .

    I haven’t seen much of any highlights, strikes…..

  244. 504 Raider Says:

    Hey Kell,

    Michael Bush Sucks!!!!

    Good Night Fellas.

  245. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Why all the posts re: Bush;

    I don’t think we talked this much regarding losing Nnamdi last off season.

  246. Raidernationdave Says:

    The year the Raiders won the SB in ‘83 their pre-season record was 1-3.

    In ‘06 when they went 2-14 they were 4-1 in pre-season.

    Records mean nothing in pre-season.

  247. KoolKell Says:

    Final scores mean nothing in preseason.

  248. DJ Johnny Says:

    85 Bears were 0-4 in preseason too. I am assuming they looked good when the starters were in and/or it ruly was just practice for them.

    Was Ditka keeping his regular season schemes close to his vest? We can guess that was the case.

    It is a little frustrating to not see visual evidence of the greatness of the “new era”.

  249. No Mas Diamante Says:

    Yeah but winning just feels better somehow. Sets the tone, so to speak.

  250. KoolKell Says:

    Final scores don’t mean anything in preseason, but that doesn’t mean the Team should look bad.

  251. Raidernationdave Says:

    DJJ I don’t think if the Raiders have gone through a 1/4th of the playbook so far this pre-season. I don’t know if that’s by design so they don’t tip their hand too much.

    The Raiders know what they have in starting personnel so it’s best to get the scrubs and back-ups the work they need in order to make sure the team has the right roster.

    Wouldn’t be cool if the Raiders pulled an ‘85 Bears season out of their backside? I wouldn’t complain! I’d be in the face of all the haters I’ve had to deal with the last 10 years!

  252. blackandsilverside Says:

    Now, all we can do is wait and watch the game on Saturday.

  253. KoolKell Says:

    Yep, I hope to see something from Knapp & Co.

  254. blackandsilverside Says:

    yeah

  255. Raidernationdave Says:

    O I had no idea you were a fan of the Suck-eyes.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++

    Raider O Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 5:47 pm

    Draft Gholston!!
    Long is all hype and he will be a bust.
    Ellis is a beast!

    Go Buckeyes!

  256. Raider O Says:

    Raidernationdave Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 10:59 pm
    O I had no idea you were a fan of the Suck-eyes.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    what?!
    please dont tell me you are from Mich.

  257. Twinkle Says:

    Just in from a few years of saved up honeydo’s.Only it was more like ‘get your lazy a$$….” married dudes know this sh!t backwards.
    There may be more to Mr. Knapp than we’ve become familiar
    with.He’s not revealed any of the book so far so I wonder
    what happens in here when\if we hang 40 pts on Detroit.
    Mr.Parsons this is Mr Suh…..have a nice day!!!

  258. Twinkle Says:

    KK This just in.They all look like sh!t.Consistency is what the camps are about.

  259. dcraiderfan Says:

    This is only the beginning of excuses from crybaby Palmer! Time to let this chump go, now!!!!!

  260. Twinkle Says:

    Who ever said ‘Michael Bush sucks’ was apparently not standing in front of him with the intent to tackle the man.One broken tibia from a shoo in for the Heisman.
    ….ahh.. there is a hole in our lineup since he left….
    one that I doubt can be filled.I wish him the best in Chicago and hope we don’t have to play them real soon.

  261. raidertalk Says:

    I’m not too worried about the sloppy preseason so far the only thing I DO NOT want to see against is another 99.9 yard drive by the Lions with Miles Burris (attempting to) gaurding Megatron.
    As long as that and no major injuries happen…

  262. Twinkle Says:

    dcraiderfan Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 12:19 am

    This is only the beginning of excuses from crybaby Palmer! Time to let this chump go, now!!!!!
    +++++++++++++++++++++
    You must be a student of the game.Cut him now and replace
    him with ahhhh……who?

  263. raidertalk Says:

    Late Nite Crew cheking in

  264. raidertalk Says:

    dcraiderfan Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 12:19 am
    This is only the beginning of excuses from crybaby Palmer! Time to let this chump go, now!!!!!
    —————————————————
    You think CP is a whiner? Dude hasn’t complained too much…He just kinda of shrugs off the INTs. I hope he can zero in on stuff this season and hit a good focus. If really cuts back the picks–the Raids can be dangerous

  265. Twinkle Says:

    raidertalk Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 12:26 am

    I’m not too worried about the sloppy preseason so far the only thing I DO NOT want to see against is another 99.9 yard drive by the Lions with Miles Burris (attempting to) gaurding Megatron.
    As long as that and no major injuries happen…
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Hey man if you are going to dine on your own a$$….then please let it be in preseason.I hope Calvin schools his a$$ in front of everyone he went
    to high school with….if that don’t take a bite out of
    his learning curve….then we can trade him to denver.

  266. raidertalk Says:

    I have a suspicion that Reggie mac is gonna spend some of that 7million on a big short yardage back…

  267. raidertalk Says:

    Naw Burris should’nt even be anywhere near Megatron on the Long passes. If that happens the D has already failed!LOl

  268. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    “I’m doing too much thinking I think…”
    Yogi Van Dyke.

  269. raidertalk Says:

    It’s like he is thinking so much that he forgets to make a play on the ball. Its so damn frustrating because he’s right there with the recievers.

    What the hell is he thinking about?

  270. Twinkle Says:

    Yeah but big Cal know YAC pretty good too.If I’m their
    OC I’d be provoking that match up til I puke.
    Stafford won’t be holding it long…he must of looked
    like a grape the last go round.He got hit by our linemen
    far more than any one should have to.
    This is where we get to see how good Carver is.Where can
    he hide Burris.Truth about the big back though…don’t believe we’ll see a lot of those after the cut.
    Guessing we be dancing with the one we brung.Can’t for the life of me get a handle on his name but he ran a lot
    …..1.scored…2.wasn’t dating the trainers…3.seemed
    to know where the balls handle was located…4. STFU
    when it came to talk to the press….and 5…yeah I know he’s not Bo.
    He’s a winner to me…cheap too.

  271. Twinkle Says:

    RAIDERMAN99 Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 12:41 am

    “I’m doing too much thinking I think…”
    Yogi Van Dyke.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++
    That’s hella funny….my guess is that he was the next in
    line…..alla sudden…outta nowhere there appears TWO
    veteran DB’s.Same ole elevator ride…penthouse meet outhouse.He’ll have plenty of time to think.
    Welcome to the nfl young man.

  272. raidertbone Says:

    #261:
    You hit the nail on the head! I want to see how Tarver and crew game plan having a lead in the last 2 minutes and having Detroit pinned down on their own 2 yard line. THAT’S what i want to see executed properly (rather than simply suffering an execution at the hands of Stafford and Megatron!)

  273. raidertbone Says:

    #257:
    If we were to hang 40 points on Detroit, there’ll be a lot of koolaid drinking up in here the rest of the week!!

  274. Raider Riff Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 10:04 pm
    I don’t know how many “toys” Knapp has considering the injuries. But, can he use them? His pedigree ain’t exactly HOF material.

    I’ve never liked the Dink & Dunk. I’ve always liked, er Al Davis offense (Sid Gillman) .

    I haven’t seen much of any highlights, strikes…..

    ————————————–

    KK, I know you take a lot of cr@p here so I try and leave you alone most of the time. Some stuff must have went on long before I was a member here that makes everyone hate you like they do. Im not part of that group, I dont know what went down, so please dont take this as piling on….

    But I gotta ask, why do you and others put style over substance? I dont give a sh1t if it is dink and dunk or not, you know what I like? FIRST DOWNS. Move the chains and you will keep me happy.

    That said, here are the concerns I have going into the season…

    With the exception of backup QB, we have regressed talent-wise in nearly every single phase of our team.

    RB (-Bush)
    WR (injuries)
    DL (Seymour is a year older)
    LB (-Wimbley & a hurt Curry)
    CB

    We are hoping to cover that up with a new modern defensive scheme. I believe it will work but it doesnt change the fact that we also have a:

    First time owner
    First time GM
    First time Head Coach
    First time DC

    We were 8-8 last year with a team that had a coach that played to our players’ strengths. We ran the offense that Carson knew and a running style that suited our best player in DMC. Now we have regressed in talent and have drastically changed our offensive system for maybe the worse while changing our defensive system probably for the better.

    According to the semi’s here:

    CP3 will throw 20+ picks
    DMC wont last 5 games
    We should trade Ford and DMoore
    Seymour isnt a leader and has no impact on our team
    Death Ro is a waste
    Our DB’s cant cover

    Most of the semi’s here dont have such high thoughts on our team considering the lofty expectation. Im not surprised Gannon ranked us 25th. I dont believe that is where he said we would finish, that is just where he sees us now. That is a pragmatic assumption. We’ve regressed in every phase on paper. Results will hopefully prove otherwise.

    Say what you want about Hue Jackson, but CP3 has some major adjusting to do for the WCO and so does DMC for the zone running scheme. I dont like trying to make players adjust to your scheme. I’d rather get players that fit our scheme or build a scheme to suit the players. While we finally have a defensive system in place that will play to our strengths, we may have taken a step back on offense. We may be in for a rough ride. It remains to be seen.

    I realize that keeping Hue was not a realistic option with the way he played his cards. That doesnt change the fact that our two best players dont exactly fit our current offensive system. They must adjust or we are f’d.

    In this game against Detroit, I just want to see us move the chains. I want to see Palmer using his weapons efficiently and decisively. It’s time to start Streater so that CP3 has a go-to guy that will catch the ball. We need to see what this guy looks like against the 1’s.

    And I want to see DMC start hitting the right gaps. So far, after rewatching both games twice, he has left some serious yardage on the table by not choosing the right time to make his cut.

    Taiwan Jones needs to show he is our #2. We cant wait around any longer.

    We need a new bruiser back. Ive seen enough of Goodson and Lonyae Miller.

    If DMoore and Ford cant stay healthy, we know Plax will. We’ve already passed on TO & Randy Moss. We need some healthy talent at this position. Eddie McGee, Im talking to you! It’s time you stepped up and made your presence felt.

    As for our D against Detroit, I feel pretty good about our D right now.

  275. Raider Riff Says:

    RaiderLen Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 9:48 pm
    Knapp has to demonstrate.

    He has the tools and no excuses.

    Wheat from chaff.

    We shall see.

    The Reggime is watching.

    ————————-

    He might not have the tools. The real question is whether CP3 and DMC can adapt to our new system on offense.

    The WCO doesnt suit CP3’s strengths and DMC is not a natural ZBS running back.

    Knapp is a good coordinator. His system works. But you need the players that can play it. We didnt get rid of Jeff George back in ‘99 because he wasnt a good QB, we got rid of him because Gruden needed a QB suited for the WCO.

    Jeff George was a very good QB after leaving us, he just needed a system that fit his strengths.

    The whole Knapp + CP3/DMC thing may just be a square peg-round hole situation. It doesnt mean either parties arent talented if it doesnt work, it just means that they werent a good fit. This happens all the time in the league.

    Not knowing your personel is the leading reason why a lot of talented teams on paper dont execute to their abilities.

  276. Raider Riff Says:

    Personally, I think we should have kept Hue’s system in place.

    Nothing against Knapp but his system doesnt suit our talent offensively. It makes no sense to make everyone adjust to our OC rather than just get a OC that could have ran and built on our previous system.

  277. Twinkle Says:

    #274.
    Riff that was one hell of a post dude.Don’t agree with all of it but I hear you.The reason that many of the Nation put ’style over substance’ and shiver at the thought of the WCO is that between 1967 and 1986 inclusive we had one losing season.All that time we simply lined up….and blew em off the ball.Bear in mind that AL honed his craft under Sid Gillman.It could be said that Al Davis was the surrogate father of the offense you couldn’t pay him to play.It really hurts me to the bone to listen to people saying that this man was senile.He simply could not understand
    what became of honor,a man’s loyalty and the will to
    win.The league had become overnight a Ho Stroll.As far
    removed from it’s roots as is humanly possible.
    far more than enough said I fear.

  278. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Al wasn’t senile. He was stubborn. Didn’t want to change with the times. He got left behind.

  279. TxRaider210 Says:

    Raider Riff Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 4:13 am
    KoolKell Says:
    August 22nd, 2012 at 10:04 pm
    I don’t know how many “toys” Knapp has considering the injuries. But, can he use them? His pedigree ain’t exactly HOF material.

    I’ve never liked the Dink & Dunk. I’ve always liked, er Al Davis offense (Sid Gillman) .

    I haven’t seen much of any highlights, strikes…..

    ————————————–

    KK, I know you take a lot of cr@p here so I try and leave you alone most of the time. Some stuff must have went on long before I was a member here that makes everyone hate you like they do. Im not part of that group, I dont know what went down, so please dont take this as piling on….

    But I gotta ask, why do you and others put style over substance? I dont give a sh1t if it is dink and dunk or not, you know what I like? FIRST DOWNS. Move the chains and you will keep me happy.

    That said, here are the concerns I have going into the season…

    With the exception of backup QB, we have regressed talent-wise in nearly every single phase of our team.

    RB (-Bush)
    WR (injuries)
    DL (Seymour is a year older)
    LB (-Wimbley & a hurt Curry)
    CB

    We are hoping to cover that up with a new modern defensive scheme. I believe it will work but it doesnt change the fact that we also have a:

    First time owner
    First time GM
    First time Head Coach
    First time DC

    We were 8-8 last year with a team that had a coach that played to our players’ strengths. We ran the offense that Carson knew and a running style that suited our best player in DMC. Now we have regressed in talent and have drastically changed our offensive system for maybe the worse while changing our defensive system probably for the better.

    According to the semi’s here:

    CP3 will throw 20+ picks
    DMC wont last 5 games
    We should trade Ford and DMoore
    Seymour isnt a leader and has no impact on our team
    Death Ro is a waste
    Our DB’s cant cover

    Most of the semi’s here dont have such high thoughts on our team considering the lofty expectation. Im not surprised Gannon ranked us 25th. I dont believe that is where he said we would finish, that is just where he sees us now. That is a pragmatic assumption. We’ve regressed in every phase on paper. Results will hopefully prove otherwise.

    Say what you want about Hue Jackson, but CP3 has some major adjusting to do for the WCO and so does DMC for the zone running scheme. I dont like trying to make players adjust to your scheme. I’d rather get players that fit our scheme or build a scheme to suit the players. While we finally have a defensive system in place that will play to our strengths, we may have taken a step back on offense. We may be in for a rough ride. It remains to be seen.

    I realize that keeping Hue was not a realistic option with the way he played his cards. That doesnt change the fact that our two best players dont exactly fit our current offensive system. They must adjust or we are f’d.

    In this game against Detroit, I just want to see us move the chains. I want to see Palmer using his weapons efficiently and decisively. It’s time to start Streater so that CP3 has a go-to guy that will catch the ball. We need to see what this guy looks like against the 1’s.

    And I want to see DMC start hitting the right gaps. So far, after rewatching both games twice, he has left some serious yardage on the table by not choosing the right time to make his cut.

    Taiwan Jones needs to show he is our #2. We cant wait around any longer.

    We need a new bruiser back. Ive seen enough of Goodson and Lonyae Miller.

    If DMoore and Ford cant stay healthy, we know Plax will. We’ve already passed on TO & Randy Moss. We need some healthy talent at this position. Eddie McGee, Im talking to you! It’s time you stepped up and made your presence felt.

    As for our D against Detroit, I feel pretty good about our D right now.

    —————————-
    Thanks for the insight, I really wanted to read a fkn’ story first thing in the morning.

  280. TxRaider210 Says:

    Whut up Klas? How’s life in the Land of Ice and Snow?

  281. TxRaider210 Says:

    CP3 will throw 20+ picks
    DMC wont last 5 games
    We should trade Ford and DMoore
    Seymour isnt a leader and has no impact on our team
    Death Ro is a waste
    Our DB’s cant cover

    ———————
    Most semi’s don’t believe any of these things, go home Riff!

  282. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    TX, Klas is ready to conquer the world.

  283. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    TX, always remember that “Winter is coming”.

  284. TxRaider210 Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 5:58 am
    TX, Klas is ready to conquer the world.

    ——————–
    Well be sure to start with Sweden, then take a boat to Finland and take her down!

  285. TxRaider210 Says:

    Klas

    Winter in the alamo city is maybe one week of below freezing at night, then back to summer.

  286. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    TX, I envy that weather. In Sweden (and Game of Thrones), “winter” is a metaphor for impending doom.

  287. TxRaider210 Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 6:02 am
    TX, I envy that weather. In Sweden (and Game of Thrones), “winter” is a metaphor for impending doom.

    ———————-
    LOL Well I would have to agree Klas, the world seems to be turning to doo-doo, slowly but surely.

  288. Twinkle Says:

    TxRaider210…..Klas lives in a trailer in Tempe.
    Tjorborn is a Norwegian dialect.Close enough to Helsinki
    to be…never mind.

  289. raidertbone Says:

    Good post, Riff.
    I am encouraged by the defense, and I am hopeful that we can make some connections on offense. Coming out of the gate, we were poning the Cowboys; then, after the Carson pick, things went silent. We played a better team the next week, but some stupid mistakes cost us a chance to win that game outright. It did give the coaches an opportunity, though, to see some players and get an idea of who is going to make the team.
    Now, we have players coming back from injury and a chance to unleash more of a game plan against a very good team – this will be a true test. My hope is that we move the chains and keep things very competitive. I would like to see DMac score a TD, and I would also like to see Palmer have a TD pass.
    Maybe all that’s too much to ask in an exhibition game – but I’m askin’!!

  290. TxRaider210 Says:

    Twinkle Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 6:06 am
    TxRaider210…..Klas lives in a trailer in Tempe.
    Tjorborn is a Norwegian dialect.Close enough to Helsinki
    to be…never mind.

    ————————-
    I could really care less where anyone lives bro, dude post some funny schit on here.

  291. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Bill Simmons is pro Rod Streater. He says he has a strong name like member of A-Team.

  292. raidertbone Says:

    NFL.com has an interesting read on the problems with Peyton Manning. I think the orange-clad fans are really starting to worry now about their investment. I’ve always had a lot of respect – and healthy fear – for Manning, and I would never wish anything ill upon him; however, he’s going down and going down hard, early in the season (that’s my prediction).

  293. hwnrdr Says:

    Good Morning Nation!!!
    Come on guys, too friggen early for negativity!

  294. TxRaider210 Says:

    Klas

    I think Streater will be the next great WR for the Raiders for years to come, eventually earning the starting job.

  295. raidertbone Says:

    #291:
    What does that make Chemdi Chekwa – an Ewok?!!!

  296. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Twinkle, you don’t know the sh*t. Tjorborn is both Norwegian and Swedish. It is the variation on Thor.

  297. TxRaider210 Says:

    Good morning Hwnrdr, ready to see Benson get whopped tonight!!

  298. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Raidertbone Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 6:10 am
    #291:
    What does that make Chemdi Chekwa – an Ewok?!!!
    ——-
    WHAT?! Chekwa is Chewbacca!

  299. raidertbone Says:

    If Green Bay is game planning like normal, Benson won’t see too many touches tonight. In fact, he probably won’t see the ball a whole lot all year long. He just wants a ring.

  300. hwnrdr Says:

    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 6:11 am
    Good morning Hwnrdr, ready to see Benson get whopped tonight!!

    LOL, probably won’t even sniff the game tonight! Awaiting Saturday morning so I can start the 2012 tailgating season!!!

  301. TxRaider210 Says:

    292

    They were claiming that Peyton can’t throw a ball to his right past 10 yards. Seems like those nerves in his neck arm affecting the noodle arm, my sister can throw one 10 yards.lol

  302. raidertbone Says:

    Sign Plax! Big, tall, veteran receiver, with a good pair of hands and a bonafide red zone threat – make it happen, Reggie!

  303. TxRaider210 Says:

    Hwnrdr

    You are one lucky son of a gun, wish I could be there. Have a good time bro!

  304. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    I am all in for Plax.

  305. TxRaider210 Says:

    raidertbone Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 6:15 am
    Sign Plax! Big, tall, veteran receiver, with a good pair of hands and a bonafide red zone threat – make it happen, Reggie!

    ——————-
    Endorsed! Get him signed before the Cheatriots start hoarding again.

  306. Twinkle Says:

    tbone this is the first look we get at what they’ve been cooking.Carson said the first week of TC something along the lines of…We have just completed the 3rd install of the 1st installation.We have fourteen more installs to do.
    I can find the link if needed but that sentence sent me looking for JACK.

  307. raidertbone Says:

    Y’all who are going to the game, make sure you hoist a couple for your old pal, Raidertbone. I’ll be working all day long, back on the East Coast.

  308. TxRaider210 Says:

    are* 302

  309. TxRaider210 Says:

    301 I meant…geez I’m out of it today

  310. bunk moorland Says:

    riff,

    I agree with all you said for the most part, but the bush

    stuff needs to be relooked at. First, i like to see the

    chains move as well, but bush cannot do that, last year

    he avgeraged 3.8 ypc , tied for 45th in the league with

    brandon jacobs. bush is being paid 7.45 mil this

    season,jacobs 1.45 mil. I beleive reg with find someone

    after cuts who can avg more that 3.8. Bush is probably

    close to dead last in nfl in bliz pick up as well.

  311. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    I forgot that Bush could not block. He is like Tawain Jones in a big body.

  312. TxRaider210 Says:

    CP3 will throw 20+ picks
    DMC wont last 5 games
    We should trade Ford and DMoore
    Seymour isnt a leader and has no impact on our team
    Death Ro is a waste
    Our DB’s cant cover

    —————————-
    Since people are speaking for the semis, how many of ya’ll agree with everything above? I agree with NONE of that stuff, just saying.

  313. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Packers look to cut some talent:

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/23/starks-harrell-could-be-on-chopping-block-in-green-bay/

    Reggie will sign Packers.

  314. hwnrdr Says:

    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 6:16 am
    Hwnrdr

    You are one lucky son of a gun, wish I could be there. Have a good time bro!

    Thanks Tx! 8 months is a long time!

    Tbone…oh hell yeah buddy!

  315. TxRaider210 Says:

    The only part of that I’d agree with is trading Ford, but only if he’s out past game 2.

  316. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    TBONE POST-307,ONLY A COUPLE ??

  317. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    TX, I don’t agree with those statements either. DBs are a question. I will agree.

  318. Twinkle Says:

    Dunno folks….I feel a little strange about hiring someone who shoots hisself in his own a$$ with his own handgun in a nightclub that is none to keen on having firearms anywhere near the church next door.
    I guess that’s not an issue though….we could get Chad instead.This just in….we are going with the one’s we brung.

  319. TxRaider210 Says:

    Klas

    Yeah the DB’s are a question, but they don’t have to be stellar, if the front 7 beast out like they have been.imo

  320. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Anyone else think RGIII is going to suck like Klas does?

  321. hwnrdr Says:

    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 6:22 am
    CP3 will throw 20+ picks
    DMC wont last 5 games
    We should trade Ford and DMoore
    Seymour isnt a leader and has no impact on our team
    Death Ro is a waste
    Our DB’s cant cover

    —————————-
    Since people are speaking for the semis, how many of ya’ll agree with everything above? I agree with NONE of that stuff, just saying.

    CP3 will throw 20+ picks…maybe but here’s hoping he will get at least 30 TDs to offset that.
    DMC wont last 5 games…Last yer he lasted 6. Don’t see it happening this year
    We should trade Ford and DMoore…I can maybe see Ford, but not D WOW!
    Seymour isnt a leader and has no impact on our team…ummm, I can see Reggie cutting ties by the trade deadline if he isn’t this year.
    Death Ro is a waste…remains to be seen
    Our DB’s cant cover…only thing that scares me, but Bartell

    Gotta make that list at least semi-positive!

  322. TxRaider210 Says:

    Klas

    I think RG3 will suck also, Luck is the real deal though.

  323. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 6:26 am
    Anyone else think RGIII is going to suck like Klas does?
    ——
    Poor wording. Klas does not suck.

  324. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Luck is solid. RGIII will be bust like Ryan Leaf.

  325. raidertbone Says:

    316 –
    Okay, okay — dive into the bag, as well!

  326. TxRaider210 Says:

    Hwnrdr

    LOL Yeah man, as I’ve been saying, I’m going to wait until these guys play a real game to judge them. I’ll admit, I wanted Goody cut last week but we will see if he can rebound.

  327. Twinkle Says:

    #296.
    I’m aware of the history.Just wanted to see if you did also.So that the next time you are accused of being the most despicable one in here I can help.

  328. TxRaider210 Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 6:27 am
    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 6:26 am
    Anyone else think RGIII is going to suck like Klas does?
    ——
    Poor wording. Klas does not suck.

    ————-
    LMAO Klas!

  329. hwnrdr Says:

    Difference between Luck and RGIII…
    Luck with Indy probably only have to worry about the Texans. They lost Williams and Ryan, but that D still looks good. SOme experts are saying possibly better than last year.
    RGIII is in a tough divsion with all the good D he will face this year. I’m wishing him the best!

  330. raidertbone Says:

    RG III will be decent, but the Redskins have a long uphill climb this year and he will take quite a few lumps — a lot like Troy Aikman did his first year.

  331. Bob Marley Says:

    Speaking of RB’s.

    The Miami Dolphins have 4 Tailbacks right now, Reggie Bush, last year’s 2nd round pick Daniel Thomas, this year’s 4th round pick Lamar Miller from the U and former Houston’s ZBS 1200 yard rusher Steve Slaton (26).

    They like Bush and Miller, but Thomas might be trade bait and Slaton might get cut because of the numbers game, I did read he was having a good camp, pressing Thomas for RB 2 role and Joe Philbin liked him, so you never know.

    Point is, maybe we can pick up Slaton if gets cut or maybe we get him for a conditional 7th Round pick (provided he makes the team), he’s a system fit, a young 26 because he doesn’t have a lot of wear and can return kicks as well.

    Now Slaton lost his job in Huston because he started fumbling in his 2nd season and Arian Foster emerged, but I think he’s worth a shot, if Taiwan remains dinged-up let’s place him on the PUP list and give Slaton a run.

  332. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Twinkle Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 6:30 am
    #296.
    I’m aware of the history.Just wanted to see if you did also.So that the next time you are accused of being the most despicable one in here I can help.
    ——-
    Who calls Klas despicable? Everyone loves Klas (except KoolKell).

  333. hwnrdr Says:

    Good Post Bob!

  334. TxRaider210 Says:

    Bob Marley Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 6:31 am
    Speaking of RB’s.

    The Miami Dolphins have 4 Tailbacks right now, Reggie Bush, last year’s 2nd round pick Daniel Thomas, this year’s 4th round pick Lamar Miller from the U and former Houston’s ZBS 1200 yard rusher Steve Slaton (26).

    They like Bush and Miller, but Thomas might be trade bait and Slaton might get cut because of the numbers game, I did read he was having a good camp, pressing Thomas for RB 2 role and Joe Philbin liked him, so you never know.

    Point is, maybe we can pick up Slaton if gets cut or maybe we get him for a conditional 7th Round pick (provided he makes the team), he’s a system fit, a young 26 because he doesn’t have a lot of wear and can return kicks as well.

    Now Slaton lost his job in Huston because he started fumbling in his 2nd season and Arian Foster emerged, but I think he’s worth a shot, if Taiwan remains dinged-up let’s place him on the PUP list and give Slaton a run.

    ———————-
    Nice post Bob, I’d be cool with them giving Slaton a shot, can’t be worse than Goodson.

  335. bunk moorland Says:

    R. Mclain is gonna have a solid year.

  336. raidertbone Says:

    It looks like the Dolphins may probably keep all four – special teams, as well as backups on offense. I like the thought process, though, and I will be interested to see who gets cut around the league.

  337. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I think RGIII will be the Darren McFadden of QB’s.

    Lights-out at times when healthy, but never healthy.

  338. raidertbone Says:

    Bunk:
    I hope you’re right and that RoMac becomes the player we all hoped he would be when he was drafted back in ‘10. I would love nothing better than to see him body slam T.O. next week!!

  339. Twinkle Says:

    You have been compared with our favorite poo and Ho worshiper who I’ve yet to see post anything regarding the team.(the most despicable one in here being of course my judgement call).I was not calling you despicable but who knows?…I may change my mind.

  340. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “Luck is solid. RGIII will be bust like Ryan Leaf.”

    I had that thought as well he is not in a very good situation being in Washington with Shanahan.

    I would be surprised if he was any good given those circumstances. I haven’t seen him play yet this preseason so I cant offer too much insight into his abilities at this level.

  341. bunk moorland Says:

    william powell, dont know if cards cut him, but he

    looked good against us.

  342. raidertbone Says:

    I trust that Reggie has been watching all the preseason action and he has a “short list” of potential backs to bring in.

  343. raidertbone Says:

    I am eagerly anticipating the beginning of the Caleb Hanie era in Denver — and watching old horse teeth squirm uncontrollably in his chair up in the owner’s box.

  344. Twinkle Says:

    Um…Romac has been calling the D since he got here right?Lot to ask of rook wouldn’t you say?Can’t remember a word out of his mouth about it.
    Get this…the dude is a fu@#$g stud.Anyone come up with
    another who could do this? (Wheeler doesn’t count as he wasn’t here)……Heysoos christos brothers you are hard too please.

  345. Bob Marley Says:

    The Saints have 5 RB’s right now, Chris Ivory and undrfated rookie Travaris Cadet fighting for one spot, it appears the Rookie is in the lead due to his versatility so Ivory may be available.

    Anthony Dixon in gonna get cut in SF, he was a guy who seemed destined to take over Frank Gore but so far has failed to reach his potential, could be worth a look.

    The one thing we have going if it comes to a recruiting battle for RB’s that get cut is that we can offer them Michael Bush’s role, as McFadden’s back-ups they wil know there’s a chance they get a shot at starting sooner or later, fingers crossed.

  346. TxRaider210 Says:

    raidertbone Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 6:46 am
    I trust that Reggie has been watching all the preseason action and he has a “short list” of potential backs to bring in.

    ——————
    I think you’re right man, Reg will probably sign someone that we didn’t even expect.

  347. raidertbone Says:

    I think the trade for “tiny hands” Fumbleson is turning out to bite us (although, Beast Campbell hasn’t really been lighting it up down in the Carolinas!)

  348. Twinkle Says:

    Ratface does QB’s…RG3 will be just fine.Fact it couldn’t be better for the kid.Ratface learned a hell of a lot from donkey john.Shoulda never told Howie to get his fat a$$ off his helmet.Man has balls.

  349. TxRaider210 Says:

    raidertbone Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 6:57 am
    I think the trade for “tiny hands” Fumbleson is turning out to bite us (although, Beast Campbell hasn’t really been lighting it up down in the Carolinas!)

    ——————-
    The positive from this is that Goodson knows he’d better play well on Saturday, or he’s done.

  350. Bob Marley Says:

    I’m sure Reggie has a list and probably has his eyes on a few players he once scouted who are currently falling behind with other teams, I’m just listing some obvious options, Reggie must have a much deeper list with some of his own scouting reports.

  351. raidertbone Says:

    Speaking of Ratface, it’ll be interesting to see his reaction when Clinton Portis re-emerges with the Redskins to officially announce his retirement.

  352. RaiderDuck Says:

    Raidertbone Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 6:57 am
    I think the trade for “tiny hands” Fumbleson is turning out to bite us (although, Beast Campbell hasn’t really been lighting it up down in the Carolinas!)

    ================================================

    I understand Campbell has been performing well against third and fourth-string DLs who won’t even be in the league two weeks from now. He probably wouldn’t even have made our team.

  353. raidertbone Says:

    Beast Campbell was just a big guy with a lot of freakish athleticism — I was terrified that his combine workout was going to make him soar up the draft boards and that we would take him in the first round. Cooler heads prevailed and he fell the way that he did. He was a good pickup in the 4th Round, but dude has never been NFL-ready, imo.

  354. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Twinkle Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 6:42 am
    You have been compared with our favorite poo and Ho worshiper who I’ve yet to see post anything regarding the team.(the most despicable one in here being of course my judgement call).I was not calling you despicable but who knows?…I may change my mind.
    ———
    I am nothing like the Beeecham. He is funny sometimes. But he is also borderline retarded.

  355. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Packers’ RB Starks might get cut.

  356. Twinkle Says:

    raidertbone Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 6:57 am

    I think the trade for “tiny hands” Fumbleson is turning out to bite us (although, Beast Campbell hasn’t really been lighting it up down in the Carolinas!)
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Tiny hands came close to having another broken neck.Case you missed it.Wheeler brings the wood.His (tiny hands that is)shoulder is still partially numb.Making it quite difficult to hang on to a sandwich.The MAN was out there trying to run the ball..
    in the meantime you were in here trying to run your mouth.Mr Campbell was deemed expendable by Reggie…
    I wish him the best….You on the other hand…

  357. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Hopefully Goodson’s bad play was due to his injury.

  358. Bob Marley Says:

    Not giving up on Goodson just yet, while you can never excuse a fumble, I felt the one where the defender launched himself and put his helmet on his arm-football was a tough play, a lot of backs would have coughed that one up.

    Trouble is teams will target the ball when he has it and his body languaje showed fumbling is in his head already, that’s a bad combination, hopefully he can improve his ball-handling without rushing affraid.

  359. Bob Marley Says:

    “I understand Campbell has been performing well against third and fourth-string DLs who won’t even be in the league two weeks from now. He probably wouldn’t even have made our team.”

    ————————————————–

    Sadly, that’s more that you can say about our backup Tackles, Haslam and Barksdale can’t even hang with some of those guys.

  360. hwnrdr Says:

    Here’s hoping that Goody steps up on Saturday. Of course, if he is still feeling the effects of that hit a few weeks back, it won’t be good!

  361. R8ER MIKE Says:

    GOOD MORNING NATION !!
    and my GreenParty brothers !!

  362. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I am more hoping Taiwan can get healthy, since he is supposed to be the #2.

    If that can happen, Goodson can focus more on what he excels at, special teams, and less what he struggles at, toting the rock.

  363. theghostronin79 Says:

    Yeah, and we hope for a good showing from Jones too….. Finally see what he’s got.

  364. TxRaider210 Says:

    hwnrdr Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 7:17 am
    Here’s hoping that Goody steps up on Saturday. Of course, if he is still feeling the effects of that hit a few weeks back, it won’t be good!

    ———————–
    Yeah right, hopefully Wheeler’s hit didn’t turn Goody into a permanent chicken schit.

  365. TxRaider210 Says:

    Good morning 79 and Mike!

    Tonight Benson gets whopped by THoward!

  366. bunk moorland Says:

    Last season Goodson had 6 fumbles in 125 att. He fumble twice this year so far, yeah its the hit he took in camp ,hell be fine.

  367. Just Fire Baby Says:

    210,

    I am about 2 miles from your old alma mater as I type.

    Lovely El Paso!!!

  368. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Klas feels the funk this morning. May have ate some bad Reindeer.

  369. Twinkle Says:

    Klas….borderline? What border?
    Trying to figure out what the point of his gig is?
    I mean aren’t we done with these basic’s at the age of 5 or so?
    But at any case I am pleased to meet you.

  370. TxRaider210 Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 7:26 am
    210,

    I am about 2 miles from your old alma mater as I type.

    Lovely El Paso!!!

    ——————-
    The good old EP, I didn’t actually go to UTEP, but did go to Andress High there. Be sure to down some chico’s tacos for a brother!

  371. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Klas Predictions!

    Palmer 3,800 yards 24 TDs 14 INTs
    DMac 1,600 yards 12 TDs 550 yards receiving
    DHB 80 catches 1200 yards 8 TDs

    Raiders 10-6

  372. TxRaider210 Says:

    Klas

    What other wild life do you BBQ besides the reindeer?

  373. TxRaider210 Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 7:30 am
    Klas Predictions!

    Palmer 3,800 yards 24 TDs 14 INTs
    DMac 1,600 yards 12 TDs 550 yards receiving
    DHB 80 catches 1200 yards 8 TDs

    Raiders 10-6

    ——————–
    Sounds fair enough, I will drink the kool-aid!

  374. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    TX, do you ever see severed heads in El Paso from the Cartel?

  375. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    TX, sometimes we BBQ Wolverine.

  376. TxRaider210 Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 7:32 am
    TX, do you ever see severed heads in El Paso from the Cartel?

    ———————
    I don’t live there anymore, moved to SA 11 years ago, but if a person goes to Juarez they’re in a war-zone.

  377. Marks hair Says:

    Mr. Glass aka goodson, needs to try dancing with the stars… footballs to rough for him.

  378. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    The Rose of San Antone!

  379. theghostronin79 Says:

    Mornin’ Tx…. Here lately I’ve had to run off and work a bunch. Like I’ll post, then have to run off. Can’t even get in the conversation.

  380. TxRaider210 Says:

    Klas

    You should turn the wolverine into jerky, and be sure to mail some to TX, I would pay for that!

  381. TxRaider210 Says:

    theghostronin79 Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 7:36 am
    Mornin’ Tx…. Here lately I’ve had to run off and work a bunch. Like I’ll post, then have to run off. Can’t even get in the conversation.

    —————————-
    I heard that man, been so slow at work for me, I’m asking people for schit to do.lol

  382. TxRaider210 Says:

    WR Steve Smith out with a foot infection, gator-arms Murph better step up and get healthy.

  383. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    I bet Murph has a big year.

  384. theghostronin79 Says:

    I’m getting highly anxious. I hope we get a good performance out of Jones this weekend and settle my worries. Plus The Ducks are kicking off their season in 8 days. They’ve been keeping me off the ledge. If the Raiders lose, I know I can always count on my Ducks to get me a win.

  385. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    At my job, I have to help old people figure how to use copiers and computers. I work at Ostersund library. I get to payed to blog!

  386. Twinkle Says:

    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 7:22 am

    hwnrdr Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 7:17 am
    Here’s hoping that Goody steps up on Saturday. Of course, if he is still feeling the effects of that hit a few weeks back, it won’t be good!

    ———————–
    Yeah right, hopefully Wheeler’s hit didn’t turn Goody into a permanent chicken schit.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Hands up if (like me) you didn’t notice Mr.Wheeler just
    show up at the door.
    Anyone in here have anything to do with ‘the love’ Mr Wheeler got that made him choose us over the rest of the league.
    He is very very very good..so don’t be shy if you gave him some of that love that bought him here.Guess it was on Twitter or social networks.But thank god he’s here.

  387. TxRaider210 Says:

    test

  388. theghostronin79 Says:

    According to the post, the team is actually “Game Planning” Detroit so…. It’ll be interesting to see if there’s much difference in what we’d seen so far. More aggressive? Coming away with a TD in the first drive or 2 would make me feel better.

  389. raidertbone Says:

    I saw Murph down in Charlotte last week — he looked pretty damn good.

  390. TxRaider210 Says:

    79

    I think the Raiders win the division this year. I try my best to pull for Goody and Jones, but geez they make it hard for a fan..

  391. Marks hair Says:

    5 days till 1st cuts

  392. TxRaider210 Says:

    theghostronin79 Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 7:45 am
    According to the post, the team is actually “Game Planning” Detroit so…. It’ll be interesting to see if there’s much difference in what we’d seen so far. More aggressive? Coming away with a TD in the first drive or 2 would make me feel better.

    ———————-
    Totally agree man, I think this is actually the first game they even bother to game plan for.

  393. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    I think Broncos will fail miserably. Manning won’t make it past week 4.

  394. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Klas I need your grandmothers recipe for Swedish Meatballs!

  395. TxRaider210 Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 7:43 am
    At my job, I have to help old people figure how to use copiers and computers. I work at Ostersund library. I get to payed to blog!

    ———————–
    Sounds like a sweet job, do you get to kick people out for being too loud?

  396. Marks hair Says:

    Wheeler is a great find for reg.. hopefully he can find a gem rb in the cuts.

  397. raidertbone Says:

    Let’s just see if both Goody and Jones make the roster, first. Then, let’s see who steps up when/if DMac gets banged up (which he inevitably will). Either way, I think if we had stuck with Bush, he was going to go down to injury – he was about due, and I think we got about as much mileage out of him as we could. Had he been tradable, Reggie could’ve worked a trade; as it stands, he’s one of the highest paid bench-warming backs in the league.

  398. theghostronin79 Says:

    Yeah, Wheeler’s Ballin’…. He came to make his presence felt, and THAT he has. He claims to be a victim of scheme with Indy (Being chained down). We can relate to that since alot of OUR players feel the same way. The dude us UN-afraid. He doesn’t dodge or try to evade blockers. He takes them on and gives em’ something to think about next time.

  399. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Jog förstår inte.

  400. RaiderDuck Says:

    Theghostronin79 Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 7:41 am
    I’m getting highly anxious. I hope we get a good performance out of Jones this weekend and settle my worries. Plus The Ducks are kicking off their season in 8 days. They’ve been keeping me off the ledge. If the Raiders lose, I know I can always count on my Ducks to get me a win.

    =============================================

    You know it, man. QUACK ATTACK FOREVER!

  401. TxRaider210 Says:

    79

    Yep, I really hope Wheeler can get 55 and Burris up to his level of play, that would be a nasty LB corp.

  402. TxRaider210 Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 7:49 am
    I think Broncos will fail miserably. Manning won’t make it past week 4.

    ——————–
    They say noodle-arm Peyton can’t throw 10 yds to his right, too funny! Gonna be an epic waste of money for Dungver.

  403. theghostronin79 Says:

    Hey RaiderDuck?……you live in Oregon?

  404. Twinkle Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 7:43 am

    At my job, I have to help old people figure how to use copiers and computers. I work at Ostersund library. I get to payed to blog!
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Life can be difficult at times.Could be worse…you might have had to have taught a bunch of Norwegian kids to sing the Dutch National Anthem.

  405. Marks hair Says:

    Bush is replaceable.. reg just picked the wrong replacement.. goody looks like a tiny db when he gets hit.. he’s too fragile for rb..

  406. theghostronin79 Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 7:49 am
    I think Broncos will fail miserably. Manning won’t make it past week 4.

    ——————–
    They say noodle-arm Peyton can’t throw 10 yds to his right, too funny! Gonna be an epic waste of money for Dungver.

    ==============

    There’s not MUCH I love more, than seeing Donkey Tears. When the packed stadium in Denver start weeping together once they realize that their plane tickets and hotel reservations in New Orleans are BUNK ! !

  407. theghostronin79 Says:

    Yep, I really hope Wheeler can get 55 and Burris up to his level of play, that would be a nasty LB corp.

    ============

    They could be. I think Burris is “Right There” in terms of intensity and fearless persuit. He just lacks the next level experience. He’s made a couple big Whiffs, but hey. If your gonna make a mistake, do it BIG…. I don’t care. I’ll take a whiff over taking a play off, or jogging lazily after a ball carrier any day because it shows the effort. He’ll get himself squared away and we’ll start hearing his name alot more after the Bye week I bet.

  408. TxRaider210 Says:

    theghostronin79 Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 8:04 am
    Yep, I really hope Wheeler can get 55 and Burris up to his level of play, that would be a nasty LB corp.

    ============

    They could be. I think Burris is “Right There” in terms of intensity and fearless persuit. He just lacks the next level experience. He’s made a couple big Whiffs, but hey. If your gonna make a mistake, do it BIG…. I don’t care. I’ll take a whiff over taking a play off, or jogging lazily after a ball carrier any day because it shows the effort. He’ll get himself squared away and we’ll start hearing his name alot more after the Bye week I bet.

    —————–
    LOL@ Dungver fan! Yeah man Burris is just tryin’ not to over-play and torpedo, as you say. He’s going to make the rook mistakes, but I feel he will progress faster than most would.

  409. r8eray Says:

    Rob Reischel of the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel produced a 53-man roster projection for Thursday morning’s editions, and it has two notable deletions. Backup quarterback Graham Harrell and running back James Starks don’t make the final 53.

    Starks might be a good pick up!

  410. Marks hair Says:

    Im thinking we need to sacrifice a white woman to the injury demon this yr.. We’ll get a nice vigin & tie her to als torch.. Sorry lady, cant loose dmac again…

  411. TxRaider210 Says:

    Dang Denzell was just at the hospital I work at, hanging out with troops and doctors, stand up move by him.

  412. TxRaider210 Says:

    Marks hair Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 8:12 am
    Im thinking we need to sacrifice a white woman to the injury demon this yr.. We’ll get a nice vigin & tie her to als torch.. Sorry lady, cant loose dmac again…

    ——————
    LMAO@ white woman! sorry lady

  413. theghostronin79 Says:

    Dang Denzell was just at the hospital I work at, hanging out with troops and doctors, stand up move by him.

    ==========

    For Sure man. I “Think” he even built a facility for rehabbing injured service people with his OWN dime. The guy really supports our warriors. Mad respect for that guy.

  414. TxRaider210 Says:

    theghostronin79 Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 8:17 am
    Dang Denzell was just at the hospital I work at, hanging out with troops and doctors, stand up move by him.

    ==========

    For Sure man. I “Think” he even built a facility for rehabbing injured service people with his OWN dime. The guy really supports our warriors. Mad respect for that guy.

    ——————
    Yeah man I think he and Oprah(as much as I dislike her) built Center for the Intrepid, to rehab and help wounded troops. It’s about 200 yards from this monster hospital, but on base all the same. Denzell has always been a class act.

  415. Twinkle Says:

    Marks hair Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 7:59 am

    Bush is replaceable.. reg just picked the wrong replacement.. goody looks like a tiny db when he gets hit.. he’s too fragile for rb..
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    OK…A lock Heisman winning RB(but for a broken leg) is
    replaceable by me.He is every bit as good as DMac but
    just more solid.You can bet your last penny that Michael
    Bush would still be a Raider if AL were still around.
    Replaceable by whom.Reg would have given blood to keep him….I hope to god we aren’t playing Chicago any time
    soon.
    There would be no discussion of fumbling…etc etc.

  416. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Twinkle Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 7:58 am
    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 7:43 am

    At my job, I have to help old people figure how to use copiers and computers. I work at Ostersund library. I get to payed to blog!
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Life can be difficult at times.Could be worse…you might have had to have taught a bunch of Norwegian kids to sing the Dutch National Anthem.
    —-
    Norwegians are pompous a-h0les.

  417. RaiderDuck Says:

    Theghostronin79 Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 7:57 am
    Hey RaiderDuck?……you live in Oregon?

    =============================================

    I lived in the Eugene/Springfield area most of my life until moving down here to Phoenix in early 2007. I understand the employment situation in Eugene still hasn’t improved…

  418. manmarquez Says:

    The number 32 is available….. Gooooo Reggie!

  419. R8ER MIKE Says:

    Marks hair Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 8:12 am
    Im thinking we need to sacrifice a white woman to the injury demon this yr.. We’ll get a nice vigin & tie her to als torch.. Sorry lady, cant loose dmac again…

    **********************************
    lol lol lol…. and just where in California are you going to find said virgin ?????

  420. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Tx210,

    No Chico Taco’s, but I will be going to Hiney’s for dinner!!!

    Did you ever go to Forti’s? Best carnitas I think I ever had.

  421. Marks hair Says:

    I gotta disagree. Bush is not as good as dmac..

  422. hwnrdr Says:

    R8ER MIKE Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 8:28 am
    Marks hair Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 8:12 am
    Im thinking we need to sacrifice a white woman to the injury demon this yr.. We’ll get a nice vigin & tie her to als torch.. Sorry lady, cant loose dmac again…

    **********************************
    lol lol lol…. and just where in California are you going to find said virgin ?????

    In the Hot Tub Time Machine, set your destination for…
    Wait…you got a point Mike..lol

  423. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Id pass on Starks if he is cut.

    Be more interested in these if they dont make their respective teams:

    Justin Forsett
    Steve Slaton

  424. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Marks hair Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 8:29 am
    I gotta disagree. Bush is not as good as dmac..

    —-

    Not really that close either.

  425. TxRaider210 Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 8:29 am
    Tx210,

    No Chico Taco’s, but I will be going to Hiney’s for dinner!!!

    Did you ever go to Forti’s? Best carnitas I think I ever had.

    ———————
    Nah bro, never got a chance to eat there, but I will be there two weekends from now to visit. If you happen to be in the area, let me know and we can watch some football at the bar my sister works at.

  426. TxRaider210 Says:

    DMC/Bush comparison is like a rabbit to a turtle. Agree DAV, Slaton should be the guy to watch, but Knapp does have ties to Forsett.

  427. Marks hair Says:

    We might have to ship the white woman in from utah or kansas or somthin..

  428. theghostronin79 Says:

    Theghostronin79 Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 7:57 am
    Hey RaiderDuck?……you live in Oregon?

    =============================================

    I lived in the Eugene/Springfield area most of my life until moving down here to Phoenix in early 2007. I understand the employment situation in Eugene still hasn’t improved…

    ==================

    you’re right about that. I feel lucky to have a job right now. It’s steady. I live in Springfield but work in Eugene. Gotta love the buzz in town once the seasons about to kick off. Word on the street is that Mariota is gonna get the nod, and DAT is getting the full package this year. Gonna see LOTS more of the Mamba.

  429. Marks hair Says:

    423. Good names.. ive been lookin at slaton.. they dont seem to be into him in hou anymore.. but he still looks better than goody to me.

  430. TxRaider210 Says:

    Marks hair Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 8:33 am
    We might have to ship the white woman in from utah or kansas or somthin..

    ——————
    Idk brother, some small town gals tend to move around town, if you know what I mean…

  431. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 8:33 am
    DMC/Bush comparison is like a rabbit to a turtle. Agree DAV, Slaton should be the guy to watch, but Knapp does have ties to Forsett.

    —-

    Yep..

  432. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Marks hair Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 8:35 am
    423. Good names.. ive been lookin at slaton.. they dont seem to be into him in hou anymore.. but he still looks better than goody to me.

    —-

    Slaton’s in Miami now, but same could be said for them.

  433. Marks hair Says:

    I knew a cali girl that waited for marriage at 24.. pain in the ass..

  434. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Also have to look into these guys if they are roster cuts:

    Trindon Holliday
    Ted Ginn Jr
    Brandon Banks

    Would be hard to find a roster spot for them though.

  435. TxRaider210 Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 8:39 am
    Also have to look into these guys if they are roster cuts:

    Trindon Holliday
    Ted Ginn Jr
    Brandon Banks

    Would be hard to find a roster spot for them though.

    ——————-
    Holliday is a return specialist right? Could be a nice fit if Ford is a no go.

  436. Marks hair Says:

    Really… guess im not really watchin then.. more of lookin out for him.. somebody of his quality has to get cut.. im over goody.. he looks bad when he gets hit.. like a kid..

  437. theghostronin79 Says:

    Marks hair Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 8:35 am
    423. Good names.. ive been lookin at slaton.. they dont seem to be into him in hou anymore.. but he still looks better than goody to me.

    —-

    Slaton’s in Miami now, but same could be said for them.

    ==============

    Just about any name of a former STARTER, sound good right now. Just a line of unprovens behind DMAC. Maybe my attitude will change a little after Saturday. But Jones/Goods will have to uterly KILL IT, and blow me away to change my stance.

  438. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Trindon Holliday
    Ted Ginn Jr
    Brandon Banks

    Would be hard to find a roster spot for them though.

    **********************************

    Why would it be hard to find a roster spot for them?

    Ginn and Banks are stud returners, and we have crap for returners.

  439. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 8:40 am
    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 8:39 am
    Also have to look into these guys if they are roster cuts:

    Trindon Holliday
    Ted Ginn Jr
    Brandon Banks

    Would be hard to find a roster spot for them though.

    ——————-
    Holliday is a return specialist right? Could be a nice fit if Ford is a no go.

    —-

    Yea, all of them are.

    I could see one of them getting McGee’s #6 WR spot..

    Depends on what happens with McCann and the CB battle.

  440. MikieG Says:

    Glad to see the infants, trolls, and knownothings have shown up for today’s posting.
    Good Odin I wish there was an ignore button on this thing so I could actually read some comments about football instead of Carson Sucks, Knapp Sucks, Our Offense Sucks, Seymour Sucks, Our Preaseason has sucked, Were gonna suck, Waaaaah I wan’t my blankie and for the Raiders to score on every single possesion of the year and for our defense to make everyone go three and out for 19 games, and Palmer to complete every pass and McFadden to score every time he touches the ball so I don’t have to cry myself to sleep not knowing were going to go 19-0 this year.
    I swear to almighty Zeus that 80% of you “FANS” don’t know jack crap about football, and the last time you ever walked onto a football field, you had on a cheerleader outfit, were carrying water, or had a f#@cking tuba strapped to your fat@ass.
    Do us all a favor and fV*ck off for the rest of the season, so we can discuss actual football and the state of the Raiders and not how this team ties into your personal assessment of self worth and loathing.
    Let the games begin!

  441. Just Fire Baby Says:

    210,

    Never in town on the weekends, only weekdays for work purposes.

    But I am here like 25 days a year, so one of these days……

  442. TxRaider210 Says:

    DAV

    I was very impressed with Holliday in his first game, could be a steal and upgrade over McCann.

  443. TxRaider210 Says:

    JFB

    I heard that man, I’m just going for the weekend to visit family and chill. I’ll definitely be trying out the restaurants that you mentioned, good lookin’ out.

  444. Just Fire Baby Says:

    McCann was playing nickle corner, ahead of DVD going into the last game, and I see no reason for that to change.

    McCann is safe on the roster, IMO, and will probably be our kick return guy until Jacoby’s menstrol cycle is over.

  445. TxRaider210 Says:

    Off to lunch fellas, will return asap

  446. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I’ll definitely be trying out the restaurants that you mentioned, good lookin’ out.

    **************************

    Forti’s = bomb azz Southwest Mexican food

    Hiney’s = buttcheeks hanging out

    Got to weigh your options at times, lol

  447. R8ER MIKE Says:

    @MikieG damn brother now tell us how you really feel !!

  448. jesusraiderjim Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 7:43 am

    At my job, I have to help old people figure how to use copiers and computers. I work at Ostersund library. I get to payed to blog!
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Klas have you tried teaching all the geriatrics “The Safety Dance”? They can dance if they want too.

  449. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    krapps offense still sucks…

  450. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 8:46 am
    McCann was playing nickle corner, ahead of DVD going into the last game, and I see no reason for that to change.

    McCann is safe on the roster, IMO, and will probably be our kick return guy until Jacoby’s menstrol cycle is over.

    —-

    Pat Lee was attending the birth of his child.. He is the lock for 5th CB.

    McCann is a bubble player.

  451. jesusraiderjim Says:

    Marks hair Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 8:12 am
    Im thinking we need to sacrifice a white woman to the injury demon this yr.. We’ll get a nice vigin & tie her to als torch.. Sorry lady, cant loose dmac again…

    —————————————————-
    If no virgins are available a “Slump Buster” will work just as well.

  452. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Pat Lee was attending the birth of his child.. He is the lock for 5th CB.

    ******************************

    Our 5th CB, who has barely played in the preseason, is a “lock”???

    Not sure if I am buying that, Lee has to play his way onto the roster, IMO.

  453. Just Fire Baby Says:

    The only “locks” at CB, IMO, are Bartell, Spencer and Chekwa.

    Me thinks, Lee, DVD and McCann are fighting for 2 spots.

    McCann is our kick returner, so he gets one of the 2 spots, and DVD and Lee can fight it out over the other one.

  454. jesusraiderjim Says:

    447.R8ER MIKE Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 8:49 am
    @MikieG damn brother now tell us how you really feel !!

    —————————————-
    Damn Dog way to “ream out” the nation. Love the passion Knute, maybe Reg can put you on staff, you truely an inspiration LMAO

  455. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 9:02 am
    The only “locks” at CB, IMO, are Bartell, Spencer and Chekwa.

    Me thinks, Lee, DVD and McCann are fighting for 2 spots.

    McCann is our kick returner, so he gets one of the 2 spots, and DVD and Lee can fight it out over the other one.

    —-

    Respectfully Disagree. Strongly.

  456. Marks hair Says:

    Nothing cooler than complaining about complainers

  457. Just Fire Baby Says:

    What do you disagree with?

    Who is returning kicks if McCann isn’t? Who do think will be playing nickle this Saturday (my money is on McCann again).

    Who are your locks and how many CB’s do you see us keeping?

  458. The Big Banana Says:

    MikieG Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 8:43 am
    Glad to see the infants, trolls, and knownothings have shown up for today’s posting.
    Good Odin I wish there was an ignore button on this thing so I could actually read some comments about football instead of Carson Sucks, Knapp Sucks, Our Offense Sucks, Seymour Sucks, Our Preaseason has sucked, Were gonna suck, Waaaaah I wan’t my blankie and for the Raiders to score on every single possesion of the year and for our defense to make everyone go three and out for 19 games, and Palmer to complete every pass and McFadden to score every time he touches the ball so I don’t have to cry myself to sleep not knowing were going to go 19-0 this year.
    I swear to almighty Zeus that 80% of you “FANS” don’t know jack crap about football, and the last time you ever walked onto a football field, you had on a cheerleader outfit, were carrying water, or had a f#@cking tuba strapped to your fat@ass.
    Do us all a favor and fV*ck off for the rest of the season, so we can discuss actual football and the state of the Raiders and not how this team ties into your personal assessment of self worth and loathing.
    Let the games begin!

    ——

    Co-signed

  459. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 9:10 am
    What do you disagree with?

    Who is returning kicks if McCann isn’t? Who do think will be playing nickle this Saturday (my money is on McCann again).

    Who are your locks and how many CB’s do you see us keeping?

    —-

    I disagree with your CB locks.

    Bartell, Spencer, DVD, Chekwa & Lee are locks.

    McCann will make the roster if there is no other options to return kicks.

    Thats why I brought up Holliday/Ginn/Banks earlier.

    McCann played slot last week due to Huff & Lee being out at child births. Dont read so much into it.

  460. raiderfankirk Says:

    Redo hustons contact with incentive to carry the ball. No more than five plays. Short yardage solved. Or …dress Zack Crockett, dude still looks the part.

  461. Raider O Says:

    Mike G,

    People have opinions, it’s a blog! If you don’t like to read people’s opinions, then do us all a favor and Eff off!

  462. Raider O Says:

    TBB,

    It’s not a good idea to encourage idiots like MikeG.

  463. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I didn’t see Lee playing any nickle the week before.

    Not sure how he has earned “lock” status in your eye, same with DVD.

    DVD is playing defensively with 10 other guys who might be cut, and he was the worse one out there!!!

  464. raiderfankirk Says:

    Murphy looks healthy and good for Carolina. Reg might have f’ed up there.

  465. Raider O Says:

    Hwnrdr Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 8:30 am
    R8ER MIKE Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 8:28 am
    Marks hair Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 8:12 am
    Im thinking we need to sacrifice a white woman to the injury demon this yr.. We’ll get a nice vigin & tie her to als torch.. Sorry lady, cant loose dmac again…

    **********************************
    lol lol lol…. and just where in California are you going to find said virgin ?????

    In the Hot Tub Time Machine, set your destination for…
    Wait…you got a point Mike..lol
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    ROFLMAO
    A white woman who is a virgin? Good luck.

  466. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I did not know you needed to know “jack crap” to be a fan, lol.

    And having spent 4 years as a season ticket holder on Mt. Davis, the football knowledge in here, as vastly greater than it was up there.

  467. R8ER MIKE Says:

    O dog!!
    the GreenParty V.P.
    whats good today my brother ??

  468. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 9:19 am
    I didn’t see Lee playing any nickle the week before.

    Not sure how he has earned “lock” status in your eye, same with DVD.

    DVD is playing defensively with 10 other guys who might be cut, and he was the worse one out there!!!

    —-

    Lee is a ST coverage stud. And plays 10x better CB than McCann.

    McCann is only on a team due to his avg return ability.

    DVD is nowhere near the chopping line. At all. Coaches have seen his ability in practice, its their goal to get that in a game.

    Like I said, McCann may make the roster, only due to Ford/Moore being hurt.

  469. The Big Banana Says:

    Raider O Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 9:19 am
    TBB,

    It’s not a good idea to encourage idiots like MikeG.

    ——–

    Lol, come on O. You don’t tire of the propaganda, favoritism, and Debbie downers in here? Maybe it was a little over the top, but the guy had a point. Many in here have saturated their fiapers and are ready to throw in the towel based on 2 preseason games.

  470. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    raiderfankirk Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 9:19 am
    Murphy looks healthy and good for Carolina. Reg might have f’ed up there.

    —-

    If Ford & Moore are healthy you dont even remember Murphy’s name.

    Cant predict injury.

    Although you might be able to in Fords case.

  471. R8ER MIKE Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 9:21 am
    I did not know you needed to know “jack crap” to be a fan, lol.

    *********************
    dont know jack but i went to school with his brother John !!!

  472. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Chaz Powell has better coverage skills than McCann.

    Lets see if he can catch some kickoffs.

  473. The Big Banana Says:

    *has

    *diapers

    Dam device!

  474. Raider O Says:

    ODB,

    I miss weed bro. I miss my wake and bake sessions. It make me more tolerant towards idiots. lol

  475. TxRaider210 Says:

    Marks hair Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 8:12 am
    Im thinking we need to sacrifice a white woman to the injury demon this yr.. We’ll get a nice vigin & tie her to als torch.. Sorry lady, cant loose dmac again…
    ————————-
    I’m still LMAO at this post, you got my vote for post of the week!

  476. Just Fire Baby Says:

    DVD is nowhere near the chopping line. At all.

    *************************

    His reps don’t speak to that.

    What if he is getting limited reps in the 4th quarter again?

  477. TxRaider210 Says:

    DVD may end up being the surprise cut, he may also take Goodson with him when he leaves.

  478. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Lee is a ST coverage stud. And plays 10x better CB than McCann.

    *****************************

    So it is a safe bet then, that he Lee will be playing nickle Saturday?

    I am not sure, just asking.

    I think you will see who is on the bubble and what not, by the playing time reps Saturday.

  479. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Raider O be nice to Mike G he is a fellow Raider fan taking a positive outlook to this upcoming season.

    Remember you and I used to argue now we are buds maybe Mike G will turn out to be a cool dude like us?

  480. Just Fire Baby Says:

    If DVD is at the bottom of the depth chart playing- wise, and is STILL getting roasted in the 4th quarter, and plays no special teams, WTF are we keeping him for?

    Next year??

  481. The Big Banana Says:

    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 9:27 am
    DVD may end up being the surprise cut, he may also take Goodson with him when he leaves.

    ——–

    Wouldn’t surprise me, Tx.

  482. TxRaider210 Says:

    JFB

    With DVD’s lack of size and tackling ability, I don’t ever see him starting for the Nation.

  483. Raider O Says:

    TBB,

    I was called a troll because I have concerns about Palmers’s INTs and Knapp’s offense and scoring.
    People are starting to walk on eggshells when they have different opinions than the Herd’s.

  484. hwnrdr Says:

    R8ER MIKE Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 9:25 am
    Just Fire Baby Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 9:21 am
    I did not know you needed to know “jack crap” to be a fan, lol.

    *********************
    dont know jack but i went to school with his brother John !!!

    You never met Jack? Last name Daniels? i never met his friend “sh!t” after jack left town though!

  485. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 9:26 am
    DVD is nowhere near the chopping line. At all.

    *************************

    His reps don’t speak to that.

    What if he is getting limited reps in the 4th quarter again?

    —-

    Reps?

    I guess McFadden better be worried, he got the least amount of reps of the RBs

    ;)

    What if DVD starts the next game? Its pre-seaon, they’re getting good looks at everyone bro. The rotation of the 2nd pre-season game doesnt mean much.

  486. R8ER MIKE Says:

    Raider O Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 9:25 am
    ODB,

    I miss weed bro. I miss my wake and bake sessions. It make me more tolerant towards idiots. lol

    **************************
    i am smelling what you are stepping in sir !!
    would probably kill half of the dumb azz people
    i have to deal with here at work without a wake and bake !!

  487. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I guess McFadden better be worried, he got the least amount of reps of the RBs

    *****************************

    Don’t be stupid, we are talking when they get the reps. Who are they playing with and against.

    You telling me they are just poising DVD for some week 1 run against the Chargers, by giving him 20 snaps in the 4th quarter of preseason games?

    LMAO!!!

  488. Raider O Says:

    666,

    Be respectful to others and their opinions, and people will treat you with respect.
    Respect has to be earned.
    Calling people idiots, trolls, etc… because they have different opinions is pathetic and disgusting.

  489. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 9:33 am
    I guess McFadden better be worried, he got the least amount of reps of the RBs

    *****************************

    Don’t be stupid, we are talking when they get the reps. Who are they playing with and against.

    You telling me they are just poising DVD for some week 1 run against the Chargers, by giving him 20 snaps in the 4th quarter of preseason games?

    LMAO!!!

    —-

    LOL..

    No. im telling you to stop making assumptions based on the rotation in the 2nd pre-season game.

  490. hwnrdr Says:

    You got a point there, O…but I don’t think he was directing his post at any ONE person in particular!
    I just take people’s post with a grain of salt and move on…got no time to deal with other people’s problems!

  491. hwnrdr Says:

    BTW: has anyone heard from Rockstar lately?

  492. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    “I would really like to see him play like he plays out here, and just play with what we know he can do,” Tarver said. “And he’s heard that from me this week, so that’s what I’d like to see him do. Play like he plays at practice, because he plays pretty good at practice.”

    Yea let’s cut him. LOL.

  493. Just Fire Baby Says:

    im telling you to stop making assumptions based on the rotation in the 2nd pre-season game.

    ***************************

    Well, what should I base my assumptions off than?

    Practice tweets?

    DAV updated 53 man boards?

    Salary and/or draft investment?

    I’ll go with the playing time the coach hands out, at least for now.

  494. The Big Banana Says:

    Well, we know you’re not a troll, O. I share your concern about Knapp but we won’t know how it’ll play out exactly until the Monday night opener. One positive is that the O has been moving the ball. Turnovers are a problem, no doubt, but you take the good with the. Ad with Palmer. The INTs will be there. Let’s hope he limits them. He’s still an upgrade over anything we’ve had here in a LONG time.

  495. Raider O Says:

    666,

    We didn’t argue. I was out of line and called you a cross posting troll, and …..well… You know what you said.

  496. hwnrdr Says:

    Hey 666, did you say you were coming to a game in your white Palmer jersey?

  497. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 9:37 am
    im telling you to stop making assumptions based on the rotation in the 2nd pre-season game.

    ***************************

    Well, what should I base my assumptions off than?

    Practice tweets?

    DAV updated 53 man boards?

    Salary and/or draft investment?

    I’ll go with the playing time the coach hands out, at least for now.

    —-

    Fair enough. To each his own.

  498. The Big Banana Says:

    Comparing reps by DVD to DMAC’s? Lol! Gotta love this blog.

  499. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “666,

    We didn’t argue. I was out of line and called you a cross posting troll, and …..well… You know what you said.”

    And I was out of line and used name calling as well and I did apologize I hope we are cool now.

    Speaking of which I should apologize to Debo

  500. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “Hwnrdr Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 9:40 am
    Hey 666, did you say you were coming to a game in your white Palmer jersey?”

    Yes I did, I will probably not be the only ginger with a Palmer jersey on but we should meet for a smoke or a beer. Will you be with “B” in the parking lot pregame?

  501. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    The Big Banana Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 9:41 am
    Comparing reps by DVD to DMAC’s? Lol! Gotta love this blog.

    —-

    I guess some people’s sarcasm detectors are faulty.

  502. Raider O Says:

    Hwnrdr,

    Excellent. I will try to do that. I’m also grumpy due to lack of THC in my system.

  503. cfrylopez Says:

    http://archive.constantcontact.com/fs090/1101193641895/archive/1110790584967.html

  504. TxRaider210 Says:

    The Big Banana Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 9:41 am
    Comparing reps by DVD to DMAC’s? Lol! Gotta love this blog.

    ——————–
    LOL And sacrificing white women, gotta love it!!

  505. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Fair enough. To each his own.

    ***********************

    I want to know what you are basing your assumptions off.

    Not to be an azz and attack, just want to see what others are basing their 53 man roster picks off of.

    In the past, salary, 40 time and draft investment is about all you needed to know with Al and the 53.

    We are all in for a change now moving forward.

  506. Deja vu Says:

    I’m sure Regg will be looking hard at some players getting cut in the near future, but i think he’ll save most of that cap space.

    Now i don’t know if it rolls over to next year (Cap $), but he signed a few 1 year deals. Let’s say Wheeler balls and Bartell puts up some nice tape, he may want to offer these 2 long term contracts towards the end of the season, rather getting into a bidding war in the offseason. Just somethin to chew on

  507. The Big Banana Says:

    I guess so, DAV. Sure looked to me like you were trying to prove a point.

  508. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 9:45 am
    Fair enough. To each his own.

    ***********************

    I want to know what you are basing your assumptions off.

    Not to be an azz and attack, just want to see what others are basing their 53 man roster picks off of.

    In the past, salary, 40 time and draft investment is about all you needed to know with Al and the 53.

    We are all in for a change now moving forward.

    —-

    What i’ve witnessed these players do in person with my own eyes.

  509. Raider O Says:

    TBB,

    I like Palmer, he is the best QB we had since Gannon, but ignoring his issues because of that is a mistake IMHO.
    I wasn’t sold on Knapp from the beginning. The guy was demoted to QB coach the last 2 years for a reason. His offense was ranked in the 20’s the last 4 years of his career as an OC. Also, if you look at his resume, he had 2 good years with 2 HOF WRs in SF, 3 avg years, and 4 years below avg.

  510. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    The Big Banana Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 9:47 am
    I guess so, DAV. Sure looked to me like you were trying to prove a point.

    —-

    WOW.

  511. The Big Banana Says:

    Who are we sacrificing, Tx? Seahawks cheerleader Karissa? Don’t think she’s a virgin tho…

  512. Raider O Says:

    666,

    We are cool bro.

  513. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 9:21 am
    I did not know you needed to know “jack crap” to be a fan, lol.

    And having spent 4 years as a season ticket holder on Mt. Davis, the football knowledge in here, as vastly greater than it was up there.
    ——
    Booya!

  514. Just Fire Baby Says:

    What i’ve witnessed these players do in person with my own eyes.

    ****************************

    Well, what have we seen Pat Lee do in the S & B?

    DVD??? He has looked like fresh doggy-poo for the better part of 6 preseason games now.

  515. The Big Banana Says:

    Yeah, Knapp is a concern, O. Get the same queasy feeling about Knapp that I got about Bres last year. Palmer’s been talking up the O he’s installed though. Hope he’s not just blowing smoke.

    No, we can’t ignore the INTs but we don’t have much if an alternative at this point. It’s one thing if we had someone waiting in the wings. Just like Soup last year. Never was a big fan as he’s just mediocre to me, but I got behind him once it was clear he was by far the best option on the roster,

  516. hwnrdr Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 9:43 am
    “Hwnrdr Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 9:40 am
    Hey 666, did you say you were coming to a game in your white Palmer jersey?”

    Yes I did, I will probably not be the only ginger with a Palmer jersey on but we should meet for a smoke or a beer. Will you be with “B” in the parking lot pregame?

    He usually finds me. Which game were you going to? Saturday’s or the opener?

  517. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 9:51 am
    What i’ve witnessed these players do in person with my own eyes.

    ****************************

    Well, what have we seen Pat Lee do in the S & B?

    DVD??? He has looked like fresh doggy-poo for the better part of 6 preseason games now.

    —-

    DVD has had one of the better camps we’ve seen at CB in a while.

    It hasnt translated to a game yet.

    Sorry if im not ready to cut him.

  518. hwnrdr Says:

    Raider O Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 9:43 am
    Hwnrdr,

    Excellent. I will try to do that. I’m also grumpy due to lack of THC in my system.

    I hear ya, withdrawals can be nasty!!!

  519. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Anyone know when the preseason replay will be for this Sat game?

    That website jacked up the wifey’s PC last week, not sure I want to do that again.

    I had to remove and re-add the wireless thingy, I got the no connectivity error the next morning and couldn’t “repair” it. Not a tech guy though.

  520. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Huff should be #4 CB.

  521. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    What is THC?

  522. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Oh, the weed!

  523. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    TX, are you getting ready for Civil War if president gets reelected?

  524. R8ER MIKE Says:

    hwnrdr Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 9:55 am
    Raider O Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 9:43 am
    Hwnrdr,

    Excellent. I will try to do that. I’m also grumpy due to lack of THC in my system.

    I hear ya, withdrawals can be nasty!!!

    ******************************
    but inhales of the sweet sticky stuff are soooo good !!

  525. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “He usually finds me. Which game were you going to? Saturday’s or the opener?”

    Both I plan on meeting up with B at either game.

  526. TxRaider210 Says:

    The Big Banana Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 9:49 am
    Who are we sacrificing, Tx? Seahawks cheerleader Karissa? Don’t think she’s a virgin tho…

    —————————
    It’s all good bruh, we’ll just splash her with holy water!!

  527. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Klas gets high on Hot Cheetos and Takis.

  528. hwnrdr Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 10:02 am
    “He usually finds me. Which game were you going to? Saturday’s or the opener?”

    Both I plan on meeting up with B at either game.

    I’ll be there for both! Do you have B’s info? What I usually do when I get into the lot is send a text out to B and others, lke Dirt Lot, DMAC, etc to tell them what row I’m in. Within an hour, they find me…

  529. TxRaider210 Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 10:01 am
    TX, are you getting ready for Civil War if president gets reelected?

    ———————–
    Klas

    Being a redneck, I’m ready for war all of the time. Don’t really care who wins the election, this country is in the schitter anyhow.imo

  530. The Big Banana Says:

    Being a redneck, I’m ready for war all of the time.

    —–

    Lol @ Tx

  531. DutchRaider77 Says:

    517.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 9:54 am
    Just Fire Baby Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 9:51 am
    What i’ve witnessed these players do in person with my own eyes.

    ****************************

    Well, what have we seen Pat Lee do in the S & B?

    DVD??? He has looked like fresh doggy-poo for the better part of 6 preseason games now.

    —-

    DVD has had one of the better camps we’ve seen at CB in a while.

    It hasnt translated to a game yet.

    Sorry if im not ready to cut him.

    ___________________________________________

    Agree, don’t cut DVD…but remember a few years ago Denard Walker (Former Vike) having a really good camp?

  532. R8ER MIKE Says:

    lol Tx.. glad to know i am not the only redneck here !!

  533. TxRaider210 Says:

    The Big Banana Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 10:10 am
    Being a redneck, I’m ready for war all of the time.

    —–

    Lol @ Tx

    ———

    LOL I’d consider myself more country than redneck I guess, there are much more hill-billy folks than me in this state.

  534. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Klas wan’t to create his own sovereign nation on his farm. Legal growing of weed would be #1 in Bill of Rights.

  535. TxRaider210 Says:

    R8ER MIKE Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 10:14 am
    lol Tx.. glad to know i am not the only redneck here !!

    ——————-
    lol High five for Raiders, Bass fishin’, guns, beer and of course, the stankonia!!

  536. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    I’m a Swedish Redneck.

  537. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “I’ll be there for both! Do you have B’s info? What I usually do when I get into the lot is send a text out to B and others, lke Dirt Lot, DMAC, etc to tell them what row I’m in. Within an hour, they find me…”

    Cool I do have B contact info I shall see you soon.

  538. TxRaider210 Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 10:19 am
    I’m a Swedish Redneck.

    ———————-
    LOL That would explain all of the Wolverine and Reindeer hunting..

  539. hwnrdr Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 10:19 am
    “I’ll be there for both! Do you have B’s info? What I usually do when I get into the lot is send a text out to B and others, lke Dirt Lot, DMAC, etc to tell them what row I’m in. Within an hour, they find me…”

    Cool I do have B contact info I shall see you soon.

    Cool

  540. RaiderDuck Says:

    Cornerbacks:

    Bartell and Spencer are starting.

    Chekwa and Lee seem to be solidly behind them.

    McCann has value as a returner.

    Unless they plan on keeping 6 CBs, DVD could be the victim of a numbers game. He’d better start balling, and FAST.

  541. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 10:20 am
    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 10:19 am
    I’m a Swedish Redneck.

    ———————-
    LOL That would explain all of the Wolverine and Reindeer hunting..
    ——-
    Klas likes to go bow hunting.

  542. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    So is Criner on the bubble too?

    Him & DVD are both young, on rookie contracts, had great camps, at a position of need, have struggled in actual games.

    :)

  543. TxRaider210 Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 10:23 am
    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 10:20 am
    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 10:19 am
    I’m a Swedish Redneck.

    ———————-
    LOL That would explain all of the Wolverine and Reindeer hunting..
    ——-
    Klas likes to go bow hunting.

    ———————–

    Sounds fun Klas, I do lots of bass fishing on the US/Mexico border in Del Rio. However, if I lived in Sweden, I would have to do some bow-hunting.

  544. TxRaider210 Says:

    DAV

    Problem is that DVD isn’t a rookie and Reg may not want to wait on him.imo

  545. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 10:26 am
    DAV

    Problem is that DVD isn’t a rookie and Reg may not want to wait on him.imo

    —-

    DVD is a 2nd year 3rd rd pick.

    Your trying to tell me because he has 1 year, in which he barely played, under his belt that means something?

    This isnt adding up to sound logic IMO.

  546. TxRaider210 Says:

    http://www.thejump.net/3fishphoto2/photo-1.htm
    ————————

    Klas, you can bow-hunt for these creatures in Texas.

  547. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Klas and friends, LOL

    http://viking-nevo.narod.ru/images/games/2004/bow-shooting1-big.jpg

  548. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    I want to go Gator hunting!

  549. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Klas in high school:

    http://danishlife.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/modern-viking.jpg?w=300&h=300

  550. TxRaider210 Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 10:28 am
    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 10:26 am
    DAV

    Problem is that DVD isn’t a rookie and Reg may not want to wait on him.imo

    —-

    DVD is a 2nd year 3rd rd pick.

    Your trying to tell me because he has 1 year, in which he barely played, under his belt that means something?

    This isnt adding up to sound logic IMO.

    ————-
    The only point there was that Criner won’t go, he’s a True rookie. I hope DVD pans out, he still has much to prove.

  551. TxRaider210 Says:

    LOL Klas!!

  552. Raider O Says:

    lol High five for Raiders, Bass fishin’, guns, beer and of course, the stankonia!!
    $$$$$$$$$$$$
    No trucks?
    What kind of Redneck are you? lol

  553. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    I can totally see Chaz Schillens coming back after he is cut by the Jets.

    But he is battling injury once again.

  554. R8ER MIKE Says:

    Raider O Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 10:35 am
    lol High five for Raiders, Bass fishin’, guns, beer and of course, the stankonia!!
    $$$$$$$$$$$$
    No trucks?
    What kind of Redneck are you? lol

    **********************
    lol.. and dont forget old toothless women !!!
    all true rednecks just love a hummer gummer !!

  555. TxRaider210 Says:

    Raider O Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 10:35 am
    lol High five for Raiders, Bass fishin’, guns, beer and of course, the stankonia!!
    $$$$$$$$$$$$
    No trucks?
    What kind of Redneck are you? lol

    ——————-
    No trucks for me bro, I’m the modern/evolving kind of redneck!lol

  556. DutchRaider77 Says:

    550.TxRaider210 Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 10:29 am
    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 10:28 am
    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 10:26 am
    DAV

    Problem is that DVD isn’t a rookie and Reg may not want to wait on him.imo

    —-

    DVD is a 2nd year 3rd rd pick.

    Your trying to tell me because he has 1 year, in which he barely played, under his belt that means something?

    This isnt adding up to sound logic IMO.

    ————-
    The only point there was that Criner won’t go, he’s a True rookie. I hope DVD pans out, he still has much to prove.

    ___________________________________________________

    I wonder how Reggie and Allen view the draft picks from last year. I just remember the “rumor” that Rod Woodson said that players were not being coached up/developed on defense. Wonder if they are given more slack to develop?

  557. TxRaider210 Says:

    R8ER MIKE Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 10:37 am
    Raider O Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 10:35 am
    lol High five for Raiders, Bass fishin’, guns, beer and of course, the stankonia!!
    $$$$$$$$$$$$
    No trucks?
    What kind of Redneck are you? lol

    **********************
    lol.. and dont forget old toothless women !!!
    all true rednecks just love a hummer gummer !!

    ————————-
    LOL Mike you just crossed over from redneck to hill-billy!!

  558. Raider O Says:

    LMAO
    Long Live The ODB!!!

  559. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    DutchRaider77 Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 10:38 am
    550.TxRaider210 Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 10:29 am
    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 10:28 am
    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 10:26 am
    DAV

    Problem is that DVD isn’t a rookie and Reg may not want to wait on him.imo

    —-

    DVD is a 2nd year 3rd rd pick.

    Your trying to tell me because he has 1 year, in which he barely played, under his belt that means something?

    This isnt adding up to sound logic IMO.

    ————-
    The only point there was that Criner won’t go, he’s a True rookie. I hope DVD pans out, he still has much to prove.

    ___________________________________________________

    I wonder how Reggie and Allen view the draft picks from last year. I just remember the “rumor” that Rod Woodson said that players were not being coached up/developed on defense. Wonder if they are given more slack to develop?

    —-

    Have to imagine so..

  560. burn_209 Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 10:35 am
    I can totally see Chaz Schillens coming back after he is cut by the Jets.

    But he is battling injury once again.

    ————–

    God I hate that guy. How do you break your foot simply running a route. People were on that guys nuts hard too

  561. Raider O Says:

    New post.

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