Ford, Moore, Seymour, Curry still out
By Steve Corkran
Thursday, August 23rd, 2012 at 11:40 am in Oakland Raiders.
Wide receiver Jacoby Ford walked on to the practice field well after practice started, with his left foot in a walking boot. Before long, he walked past fellow injured wide receiver Denarius Moore. It’s enough to conjure images of a rookie starting opposite Darrius Heyward-Bey in the regular-season opener Sept. 10.
This has to be a sobering sight, if not thought, for first-year head coach Dennis Allen as he wraps up his first training camp today.
Moore has missed most of training camp, as well as both exhibition games, with a lingering hamstring injury. There is no timetable for his return, though he certainly looks closer than Ford at this point.
So, for now, there figures to be a ton of playing time for rookies Juron Criner and Rod Streater, as well as other hopefuls, Saturday night against the Detroit Lions, if not beyond.
Offensive coordinator Greg Knapp said Wednesday that injuries to Moore and Ford are somewhat of a blessing in disguise in terms of the younger receivers getting more practice and playing time.
Yet, Knapp and Allen aren’t blinded by the fact that the Raiders are a better team with Moore and Ford at their disposal.
In the long run, shutting down Moore figures to be a wise move, given he is experienced enough to know the offense and play in a real game without as much practice time as Criner and Streater.
– Defensive tackle Richard Seymour was on the practice field, but he sat out for the fourth straight time since he played against the Arizona Cardinals on Friday night.
Allen said Wednesday that Seymour isn’t injured and that Seymour is being held out as a means of helping him be fresh for the regular season.
– Linebacker Aaron Curry still isn’t able to practice, which means he will have, at most, only two weeks to prepare for the regular-season opener. That’s assuming he is able to practice for the first time Monday, when the Raiders resume their preseason workouts in Alameda.
– Center Stefen Wisniewski (calf) missed practice, too, which means that he likely won’t play Saturday night. Alex Parsons is in line to fill in for Wisniewski for the second straight game.
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August 23rd, 2012 at 11:45 am
yo
August 23rd, 2012 at 11:46 am
plop
August 23rd, 2012 at 11:46 am
Jerry Jones can’t see a difference with replacement refs
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Jerry is clearly blind!
August 23rd, 2012 at 11:46 am
fo sho
August 23rd, 2012 at 11:47 am
Depth, was an issue going into the season, that is getting tested now.
Hopefully it only gets tested the beginning of the year, and isn’t an issue come Post-Turkey day.
August 23rd, 2012 at 11:47 am
5 alive
August 23rd, 2012 at 11:48 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 23rd, 2012 at 11:47 am
Depth, was an issue going into the season, that is getting tested now.
Hopefully it only gets tested the beginning of the year, and isn’t an issue come Post-Turkey day.
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that would be something to be thankful for!
August 23rd, 2012 at 11:48 am
We need to sign Plax…ASAP! Thank You for thee update Cork! Recover soon Moore and Ford!
August 23rd, 2012 at 11:50 am
He is always right there in coverage. If he can learn how to play the ball he will be a stud.
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This seems to the common theme when discussing DVD. If only we can teach him how to play the ball he will be a stud.
Pay no mind, to that he can’t tackle either, and just because you are fairly close to the DB, doesn’t mean you have good coverage.
If you are 175 pounds like he is, big WR’s are just going to round out routes and post him up, HE WILL ALWAYS BE CLOSE, because it is almost by design.
He stinks, and provides nothing to the 53 at his present “skill” level.
August 23rd, 2012 at 11:50 am
Jerry Jones can’t see a difference with replacement refs
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Jerry is clearly blind!
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Well the Raiders seem to have fixed their penality problems so far or is it the replacement refs?
August 23rd, 2012 at 11:50 am
Looks like Streater all day long. Until he gets signed somewhere, you’ll hear me continuing to bang the gong for Plaxico!
August 23rd, 2012 at 11:52 am
I forget which preseason game it was, but I saw almost the exact same “Tuck Rule” play that kept us out of the Super Bowl a decade ago. Was it called an incomplete pass? Absolutely not! It was ruled a fumble, although the offense did recover it.
August 23rd, 2012 at 11:53 am
DutchRaider77 Says:
August 23rd, 2012 at 11:40 am
Could it be TP not setting his feet before he throws? It did seem like most of his throws he was scrambling around and could have an impact on those ugly throws? Have to admit, I did not watch any of his play at Ohio State, so many of the semi’s on here could have a better assesment.
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From what I hear he has been running for his life hasn’t had much of chance to set his feet. Would have to see him with the 1s to really gauge what he can do.
August 23rd, 2012 at 11:54 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
August 23rd, 2012 at 11:33 am
I want to see Caballero play this week. I have a suspicion he would be better than Pryor.
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If Reggie and DA see anything in KNC, they’ll put him on the practice squad. If they don’t, it means he was a camp arm and nothing more.
August 23rd, 2012 at 11:55 am
Would have to see him with the 1s to really gauge what he can do.
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I don’t think Pryor even thinks he would do anything but run around completely lost, if he were to play with the 1’s.
We are talking about “huddle procedure” with the guy, getting this “progression thing” down, lol.
August 23rd, 2012 at 11:55 am
Curry is not going to make the cut.
August 23rd, 2012 at 11:56 am
What up raider Nation?! First post. I’m ready to do this!
August 23rd, 2012 at 11:58 am
From Twitter:
Vic Tafur
“@Da_R8derMan: anything new on the Andre Carter front?” >> Boston Herald had report he’s not ready to return to field; visited Raiders, Rams
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If Carter’s not ready to hit the field yet, then maybe Reggie waits until after week 1 so Carter’s salary wouldn’t be guaranteed.
August 23rd, 2012 at 11:58 am
Fuk wiz.. get healthy
August 23rd, 2012 at 11:58 am
“From what I hear he has been running for his life hasn’t had much of chance to set his feet. Would have to see him with the 1s to really gauge what he can do.”
First he needs to learn how to throw the ball I don’t see what all this footwork exercises can accomplish if the guy is throwing the ball like Teblow.
Still confused as to why they don’t have him throwing 100 balls a day at targets because if you ask me that is where the work is needed with regards to TP.
August 23rd, 2012 at 11:59 am
CJ Legend 34 Says:
August 23rd, 2012 at 11:55 am
Curry is not going to make the cut.
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I think he will. Even if he doesn’t start, he can be a top-flight backup at all three LB positions.
August 23rd, 2012 at 11:59 am
Raider_dre Welcome to the Raider Nation blog!!
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:00 pm
CJ – I agree with you: Curry is more of a liability at this point.
Klas – I have to give Pryor a little bit of the benefit of the doubt. He was pressing really hard to make a play, but he was slow to make the progressions and really got the case of the “happy feet”. Let’s see what happens against the Detroit defense, with a couple of games under his belt.
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:00 pm
I have to say, T.Pryor says all the right things in interviews imo.
I would love to see him be the Raiders starting QB 3 years from now and be compared to randall Cunningham as well as refered to as Al Davis’s last pick before he past away.
Keep putting in the time Terrel and hopefully things work out for you and Raider nation.
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:01 pm
9. True
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:01 pm
I don’t think Pryor even thinks he would do anything but run around completely lost, if he were to play with the 1’s.
We are talking about “huddle procedure” with the guy, getting this “progression thing” down, lol.
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TP doesn’t look lost with the 3rd string but he has to run all the time but with the 1s he would get more time to throw and that’s what he needs.
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:02 pm
If TP6 could be another Randall Cunningham, I would settle for that!
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:02 pm
I won’t miss Ford (except for kick off returns). I would rather see Streater play over him anyways.
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:02 pm
raider_dre Says:
August 23rd, 2012 at 11:56 am
What up raider Nation?! First post. I’m ready to do this!
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welcome fellow Raider bretheren
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:03 pm
Tp looked soo lost..
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Welcome in Dre. Fire up your opinion and beware of the occasional trolls (trust me, you’ll spot ‘em!)
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:05 pm
Klas Tjorborn Says:
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:02 pm
I won’t miss Ford (except for kick off returns). I would rather see Streater play over him anyways.
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ford and Goodson are dead to me
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:06 pm
Starting WR’s are the walking dead. But, Streater & Criner give us hope…For now.
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:06 pm
First he needs to learn how to throw the ball I don’t see what all this footwork exercises can accomplish if the guy is throwing the ball like Teblow.
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Good footwork makes your passes more accurate. That’s from a QB coach not me.
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:07 pm
Goodson looks empty inside.. like an aluminum can..
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:09 pm
Maybe Goody should go out and enjoy a BK Whopper … oh right, he can’t do that — tiny hands!
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:09 pm
Footwork has alot to do with a qbs accuracy..
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:10 pm
36. Hahaha
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:10 pm
How did you guys do on the Raider quiz?
I didn’t do so hot (60)
I’m good with almost every question from the 80’s on.
Some of the old school questions can stump me.
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:11 pm
Just Win Baby Says:
August 23rd, 2012 at 11:33 am
I love to watch you guys get all foamy over some guy who hasn’t accomplished anything in the NFL. Put some pants on, go outside, and take a walk in the real world.
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You People……
You got all foamy over Tebow and he wasn’t/ isn’t a Raider.
LOL
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:11 pm
Tim Tebow is accurate. There is not a guy standing on the sidelines that he can’t hit.
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:12 pm
Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:10 pm
How did you guys do on the Raider quiz?
I didn’t do so hot (60)
I’m good with almost every question from the 80’s on.
Some of the old school questions can stump me.
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Klas scored a 13/15
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:13 pm
Goody must have those babydlck fingers..
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:13 pm
I scored 10 out of 15.
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:14 pm
“Good footwork makes your passes more accurate. That’s from a QB coach not me.”
Yeah I hear that….he seems to have so much going for him in his size, speed, athleticism, work habits, film room study etc if he can become an accurate passer we will have a super star at QB for years to come.
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:15 pm
11/15. I’m going to exile myself to Mt. Davis for that poor showing.
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:16 pm
“Tim Tebow is accurate. There is not a guy standing on the sidelines that he can’t hit.”
LMAO good one….at least he is playing for Rex Ryan who has a foot fetish so he probably doesn’t mind Teblow throwing the ball at players feet.
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:16 pm
I missed the first question and the one about “the criminal element”. The answer was George Atkinson, and I answered Jack Tatum.
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:16 pm
O,
Wrong guy, lol.
Why does everyone always screw up Just Win Baby and post to him like he is me??
You are going to piss off the man!!!
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:16 pm
Raidertbone Says:
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:11 pm
Tim Tebow is accurate. There is not a guy standing on the sidelines that he can’t hit.
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LOL
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:18 pm
Chico,
LOL
My bad bro. I blame the lack of THC in my system.
I never did that before.
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:21 pm
I blame the lack of THC in my system.
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Have you had the crazy dreams yet?
How about the appetite? First it goes away dramatically, then you can’t eat enough.
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:21 pm
Was fumbleson regs first player? Maybe thats why reg doesnt seem to want to replace him.
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:22 pm
Yeah I hear that….he seems to have so much going for him in his size, speed, athleticism, work habits, film room study etc if he can become an accurate passer we will have a super star at QB for years to come.
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We as fans just have to have patients with TP but its painfully obvious patients is not a strong suit on this blog. Seems like jamarcus Bussell got more rope than TP is getting and we backed up the brinks truck for him TP is getting peanuts.
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:23 pm
Go back and watch the old school videos of the Steelers/Raiders rivalry. Watch Swann come across the middle of the field and see #43 lay the smack down on his candy a#$. Then, he calls Swann “soft” — classic stuff!
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:23 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 23rd, 2012 at 11:50 am
He is always right there in coverage. If he can learn how to play the ball he will be a stud.
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This seems to the common theme when discussing DVD. If only we can teach him how to play the ball he will be a stud.
Pay no mind, to that he can’t tackle either, and just because you are fairly close to the DB, doesn’t mean you have good coverage.
If you are 175 pounds like he is, big WR’s are just going to round out routes and post him up, HE WILL ALWAYS BE CLOSE, because it is almost by design.
He stinks, and provides nothing to the 53 at his present “skill” level.
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You nailed it bro, I’m the exact same height/weight/build as DVD, and willing to admit I couldn’t cover the Megatron size WR’s, even if I did have NFL speed.lol
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:24 pm
In all fairness, WE didn’t back up the Brinks truck — Al did. I think that’s what killed him …
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:25 pm
Can you semis teach me to play American Football?lmao
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:25 pm
Chico,
The dreams are weird bro, but my appetite is normal. I love food especially after fasting for an entire month.
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:26 pm
One of the reasons Pryor is running around so much is once he gets past his 1st read he reverts to old form and leaves the pocket.He said it himself,he needs to stay in the pocket and make his reads.
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:27 pm
American Football:
See ball
Go get ball
Run fast
Grunt
Scratch crotch
Run fast some more
Celebrate (whether you make a play or not)
Get paid
Spend the rest of your life on crutches or in a wheelchair
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:27 pm
People will look at DVD clining to the back of Colston and say “he is right there, just needs to learn to play the ball”.
But if Colston gets in between DVD and the QB, that’s it play’s over, he will catch the ball 99% of the time, so him clinging to his back is EXACTLY WHAT THE OFFENSE WANTS.
Playing right into the offenses hand is not good coverage in my mind.
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:27 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:16 pm
“Tim Tebow is accurate. There is not a guy standing on the sidelines that he can’t hit.”
LMAO good one….at least he is playing for Rex Ryan who has a foot fetish so he probably doesn’t mind Teblow throwing the ball at players feet.
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Too funny, both posts!!LMAO
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:29 pm
raidertbone Says:
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:27 pm
American Football:
See ball
Go get ball
Run fast
Grunt
Scratch crotch
Run fast some more
Celebrate (whether you make a play or not)
Get paid
Spend the rest of your life on crutches or in a wheelchair
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Where do I sign? They say I look like the white Johnnie Lee Higgins…that should bring RaiderRockstar out of his cage!!lol
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:31 pm
Tx:
Do you flinch when someone throws you a pass? If so, you are indeed the white JLH. JaWalrus did a number on #15 and left him hanging out to dry one to many times — then, he just simply became shellshocked and couldn’t catch an STD.
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:33 pm
62.Just Fire Baby Says:
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:27 pm
People will look at DVD clining to the back of Colston and say “he is right there, just needs to learn to play the ball”.
But if Colston gets in between DVD and the QB, that’s it play’s over, he will catch the ball 99% of the time, so him clinging to his back is EXACTLY WHAT THE OFFENSE WANTS.
Playing right into the offenses hand is not good coverage in my mind.
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Lol, I was thinking about this in another scenario, Palmer cannot figure out why he is completing his passes in practice in “tight” coverage, but end up being picks in the games? (Tongue and Cheek)
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:33 pm
Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:00 pm
I have to say, T.Pryor says all the right things in interviews imo.
I would love to see him be the Raiders starting QB 3 years from now and be compared to randall Cunningham as well as refered to as Al Davis’s last pick before he past away.
Keep putting in the time Terrel and hopefully things work out for you and Raider nation.
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I agree. But let’s be realistic, he’s going to need 4-5 years. And it remains to be seen if he can be a WCO QB.
And agree with the one guy above who says TP needs to be doing 250 drills a day to rework all his fundamentals because his footwork is horrendous.
As for some other comments…
- Replacement refs? Too busy trying to do their jobs to worry about the fact that they are supposed to screw us over. Personally, I like these new guys. Lets not forget, the old guys once screwed up the coin toss.
- Curry… love the guy but c’mon, maybe its time he joins our coaching staff as an assistant.
- Plax… time to bring the guy in
- #2 RB situation… New Orleans is deep as is Miami. We’ll be picking somebody up and replacing Goodson once cuts are made. The real question is whether we pick up one or two guys, Im talking to you Taiwan Jones.
It’ll be nice to see if Reggie is myopic when it comes to the guy he traded for, Goodson. IMO, we clearly need to cut our losses and get a replacement.
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:38 pm
“We as fans just have to have patients with TP but its painfully obvious patients is not a strong suit on this blog. Seems like jamarcus Bussell got more rope than TP is getting and we backed up the brinks truck for him TP is getting peanuts.”
You hit the nail on the head there we are paying that guy about as little as a player can make and no one should be complaining about him taking up a roster spot at that salary. Most 3rd string QB’s are vets and the vet minimum is about 650K I believe.
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:38 pm
amazing people still on criner….
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:38 pm
I wonder why Cam is so far ahead of TP in the learning curve. Cam played in college spread O TP played in pro style O. Guess Cam ust has that IT factor.
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:38 pm
raidertbone Says:
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:31 pm
Tx:
Do you flinch when someone throws you a pass? If so, you are indeed the white JLH. JaWalrus did a number on #15 and left him hanging out to dry one to many times — then, he just simply became shellshocked and couldn’t catch an STD.
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LOL No flinching here my friend, my advice to DVD being under-sized, make up for it with nasty/physical play. Now if Jawalrus had been throwing me the ball, all bets are off I’m toast.
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:39 pm
Private school for a 5 YO = $5500/ year. WTF are they going to charge me when she is 10? 11K/ year?!?!
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:41 pm
Most 3rd string QB’s are vets and the vet minimum is about 650K I believe.
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It depends on how many years they have been in the league.
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:41 pm
Raider O Says:
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:39 pm
Private school for a 5 YO = $5500/ year. WTF are they going to charge me when she is 10? 11K/ year?!?!
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Dang bro, may as well just skip it and send the kid to college.lol
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:42 pm
Raider Riff Says:
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:33 pm
Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:00 pm
I have to say, T.Pryor says all the right things in interviews imo.
I would love to see him be the Raiders starting QB 3 years from now and be compared to randall Cunningham as well as refered to as Al Davis’s last pick before he past away.
Keep putting in the time Terrel and hopefully things work out for you and Raider nation.
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I agree. But let’s be realistic, he’s going to need 4-5 years. And it remains to be seen if he can be a WCO QB.
And agree with the one guy above who says TP needs to be doing 250 drills a day to rework all his fundamentals because his footwork is horrendous.
As for some other comments…
- Replacement refs? Too busy trying to do their jobs to worry about the fact that they are supposed to screw us over. Personally, I like these new guys. Lets not forget, the old guys once screwed up the coin toss.
- Curry… love the guy but c’mon, maybe its time he joins our coaching staff as an assistant.
- Plax… time to bring the guy in
- #2 RB situation… New Orleans is deep as is Miami. We’ll be picking somebody up and replacing Goodson once cuts are made. The real question is whether we pick up one or two guys, Im talking to you Taiwan Jones.
It’ll be nice to see if Reggie is myopic when it comes to the guy he traded for, Goodson. IMO, we clearly need to cut our losses and get a replacement.
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Regarding Pryor, I agree with what you are saying for the most part. I believe if Pryor has any shot to be a starting QB it will be in 3 years and if he isn’t then he was probaly given up on. I don’t see the Raiders giving him 4-5 years to develop.
My comments about Terrel are what I would like to see both for him because I think he is a good kid and for raider nation because it would be nice to have a franchise qb for the next decade that we groomed.
That doesn’t mean I see it happening, It would be a great story though.
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:43 pm
About the replacement refs-I keep seeing Mike Perrera making the rounds complaining about the replacement guys and pointing out every little mistake they are making.It would be nice if he did the same when the regular refs return.However,he is the same guy who refuses to say anything bad against the regular refs and sticks up for the rules that won’t allow coaches or players to publicly make complaints about them.While the replacement guys are making mistakes you have to believe they will improve the more they work.And it is nice to see games officiated without the bias you see with the regular guys.
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:43 pm
TxRaider210 Says:
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:41 pm
Raider O Says:
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:39 pm
Private school for a 5 YO = $5500/ year. WTF are they going to charge me when she is 10? 11K/ year?!?!
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Dang bro, may as well just skip it and send the kid to college.lol
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Move to Sweden. We pay high taxes but get very good schools.
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:43 pm
Burn_209 Says:
August 23rd, 2012 at 11:04 am
Has anyone here actually had a hamstring issue? I can’t believe that it would keep moor out for all of training camp. It can’t be that bad
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Hammy’s are tricky.
Those things are connected and run all the way up your spine. Your core strength, back flexibility, and posture all play a part in the injury and rehab process.
Not to mention, these guys are like finely tuned cars. True thoroughbreds. Even if anyone here has had a hammy injury they wouldnt really be able to relate because I doubt many here were that sort of athlete.
We can knock on Moore all we want for getting hurt in the first place, because it was likely due to poor offseason conditioning or dehydration…as in, it was preventable. But what is done is done and in order to get him right, we need to be patient. Hammys take time and if you come back too soon, it will never be the same.
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:43 pm
LMAO. If only these guys can learn to play decent football they will be the greatest.
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:44 pm
Burn_209 Says:
August 23rd, 2012 at 11:04 am
Has anyone here actually had a hamstring issue? I can’t believe that it would keep moor out for all of training camp. It can’t be that bad
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I got a hammy when I was hunting Trolls in the Ice Forest.
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:45 pm
Raider O Says:
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:39 pm
Private school for a 5 YO = $5500/ year. WTF are they going to charge me when she is 10? 11K/ year?!?!
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my daughter is 4 and we are sending her to pre-K and that is costing thousands of dollars!!!!!!! There goes your college fund!
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:45 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:38 pm
I wonder why Cam is so far ahead of TP in the learning curve. Cam played in college spread O TP played in pro style O. Guess Cam ust has that IT factor.
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No. TP is not lacking in the leadership or “it” factor category.
Cam has perfectly sound mechanics. Whereas TP pretty much wasnt coached on his fundamentals while at OSU.
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:45 pm
Tx,
I think they charge around 3K per semester for full-time students at SDSU.
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:46 pm
Basic common logic dictates that one should allow a person to actually accomplish something great before attributing greatness to them. When I see TP do something worthy of any accolade, I will speak up.
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:48 pm
Klas,
I’m starting to appreciate your system more when I have to pay for my education, my kid’s education, and insurance. It’s cheaper to pay more taxes!
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:50 pm
Lefty12 Says:
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:43 pm
About the replacement refs-I keep seeing Mike Perrera making the rounds complaining about the replacement guys and pointing out every little mistake they are making.It would be nice if he did the same when the regular refs return.However,he is the same guy who refuses to say anything bad against the regular refs and sticks up for the rules that won’t allow coaches or players to publicly make complaints about them.While the replacement guys are making mistakes you have to believe they will improve the more they work.And it is nice to see games officiated without the bias you see with the regular guys.
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Aint this the truth. F Perrera. He is a chump.
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:50 pm
This FK’n guy!
“Defensive tackle Richard Seymour was on the practice field, but he sat out for the fourth straight time since he played against the Arizona Cardinals on Friday night”
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:51 pm
Raider O Says:
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:48 pm
Klas,
I’m starting to appreciate your system more when I have to pay for my education, my kid’s education, and insurance. It’s cheaper to pay more taxes!
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Hurray for big government!
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:51 pm
Raider Riff Says:
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:45 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:38 pm
I wonder why Cam is so far ahead of TP in the learning curve. Cam played in college spread O TP played in pro style O. Guess Cam ust has that IT factor.
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No. TP is not lacking in the leadership or “it” factor category.
Cam has perfectly sound mechanics. Whereas TP pretty much wasnt coached on his fundamentals while at OSU
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If you remember Cam also had issues coming into the draft but he worked with some coaches and obviously fixed what was wrong.
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:52 pm
I know a guy like MistaBrown is all for paying more taxes, am I right?
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:52 pm
my daughter is 4 and we are sending her to pre-K and that is costing thousands of dollars!!!!!!! There goes your college fund!
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You would think they are teaching those kids rocket science.
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:53 pm
If you didn’t see Serena Willimas in her red dress on Letterman I dont know whats wrong with you but here’s what that nimrod Dave said…
“I think I saw your eyes almost pop out there,” Williams said.
Responded Letterman, “Well, I think so … That’s not the only thing.”
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:54 pm
O
That is just crazy man, I’d go the home-schooling route.
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:54 pm
Peymour Bush, you are the king of trolls.
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Klas Tjorborn Says:
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:52 pm
I know a guy like MistaBrown is all for paying more taxes, am I right?
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:55 pm
MistaBrown Says:
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:54 pm
Peymour Bush, you are the king of trolls.
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Klas Tjorborn Says:
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:52 pm
I know a guy like MistaBrown is all for paying more taxes, am I right?
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I am not the Bush Master. I am just Klas.
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:55 pm
Klas Tjorborn Says:
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:44 pm
Burn_209 Says:
August 23rd, 2012 at 11:04 am
Has anyone here actually had a hamstring issue? I can’t believe that it would keep moor out for all of training camp. It can’t be that bad
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I got a hammy when I was hunting Trolls in the Ice Forest.
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LOL Do they BBQ better than Wolverine, Klas?
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:56 pm
LOL Do they BBQ better than Wolverine, Klas?
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Troll taste nasty. We just hunt them for sport.
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:58 pm
Klas Tjorborn Says:
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:56 pm
LOL Do they BBQ better than Wolverine, Klas?
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Troll taste nasty. We just hunt them for sport.
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Yeah I thought so, kind of like hunting for big-foot in the states.
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:58 pm
Klas is out. I will check in later with my American homies.
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:58 pm
Raider O Says:
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:48 pm
Klas,
I’m starting to appreciate your system more when I have to pay for my education, my kid’s education, and insurance. It’s cheaper to pay more taxes!
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If youve ever lived on both continents and really done the math, its a wash. It works out pretty even.
The only difference is that in a socialist state, it is really hard or near impossible to change classes. Very few are suffereing, there is a large lower/middle class, and a few elite. Whereas in a capitalist society, there are many shades of grey when it comes to the class system and its feasible to change your bloodlines tax bracket in as little time as one generation.
Both have their strengths and flaws. I wont bore you guys with the breakdown and analysis of both but will just say that regardless of the system, its up to the people to uphold it. Capitalism puts the onus on the citizen to sink or swim. And Socialism puts the onus on the citizen to pull their weight and not bring down the system.
Either way, its on the citizen to do his or her job. The real difference is simply identifying what your culture is best suited for and go with what you culturally can pull off. Socialism works in Europe for the very reasons it doesnt work in America, for example look at O having to send his kids to private school because our public ones are so bad.
Another thing to consider is that humans are tribal by nature, and that we naturally prefer socialism, but it only really works when their is accountability, and that only happens in small tribes where everyone knows everyone. “Anonymity” is a very radical thing for humans and not something we are yet evolved enough to handle responsibly.
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:59 pm
Keep it Swede Klas!
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:59 pm
Raider O Says:
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:52 pm
my daughter is 4 and we are sending her to pre-K and that is costing thousands of dollars!!!!!!! There goes your college fund!
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
You would think they are teaching those kids rocket science.
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yeah that would be nice, instead it’s juicy juice and show and tell lol
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:00 pm
Moore had hammy issues at the OTAS in May and June.He still claims to have the same problem.I’m beginning to think he is a ‘corner cutter’-”I can’t practice but I’ll be ready to play the 1st game”.Palmer said he can be as good as he wants to be.The question has to be asked-how good does he want to be and how bad does he want it?
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:01 pm
Hammys take time and if you come back too soon, it will never be the same.
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Absolute TRUTH. I rolled my ankle and heard it pop twice. didn’t break, minor sprain. I only took about 10 days OFF from excersise….. That was 6 months ago. I’ll be damned if it still doesn’t hurt once in awhile. It’s about 90% recovered but still. I should have taken more time off. You want MOORE to be a weapon in our arsenal? Leave him alone…. Let him stand on the sideline right now. It’s what he needs.
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:03 pm
Lefty12 Says:
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:00 pm
Moore had hammy issues at the OTAS in May and June.He still claims to have the same problem.I’m beginning to think he is a ‘corner cutter’-”I can’t practice but I’ll be ready to play the 1st game”.Palmer said he can be as good as he wants to be.The question has to be asked-how good does he want to be and how bad does he want it?
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I dont think he’s a conscious “corner cutter”. He may not have prepared well in the offseason and that may have led to his injury, but I dont think he’s faking this now just to get out of practice.
Does DMo strike you as that sort of kid? He certainly doesnt strike me as that.
I think his injury is legitimate.
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:04 pm
theghostronin79 Says:
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:01 pm
Hammys take time and if you come back too soon, it will never be the same.
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Absolute TRUTH. I rolled my ankle and heard it pop twice. didn’t break, minor sprain. I only took about 10 days OFF from excersise….. That was 6 months ago. I’ll be damned if it still doesn’t hurt once in awhile. It’s about 90% recovered but still. I should have taken more time off. You want MOORE to be a weapon in our arsenal? Leave him alone…. Let him stand on the sideline right now. It’s what he needs.
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I concur, I believe Moore and Palmer have a good thing going and Moore wants to be on the field enhancing his chemistry with the offense imo.
I’d rather have the dude heal up and be unleashed when it matters!
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:06 pm
Since blog is dying out and we have troll talk I have a question we can debate best running back ever. My vote is for Barry Sanders nobody did it better than him with crappy Olines could you imagine if he played with Dal. Scary thought. Had the greatest two yard runs I ever seen. Haven’t seen anyone like him since who could stop and cut on a dime. Probably will never be another Barry Sanders.
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:08 pm
If he didn’t prepare properly in the off-season he qualifies as a ‘corner cutter’.Regardless,he can’t help the team if he is always injured.He must either man up or there will come a point where his spot will be in danger.
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:08 pm
If you watch Pryor in the pocket, he’s bouncing around.
I hope he uses this time wisely and learns as much as he can (sounds like he is). We’ll see down the road if he gets it.
I for one am sick of the revolving door at the most important position in football.
Hopefully Palmer gives us a few good/great years then hand the torch to Pryor.
We shall see!
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:09 pm
starting wideouts week 1
DHB
Plax
Streater
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:10 pm
How sweet would it be to actually have the same coach/QB for a decade? ala the the N.E. Cheaters
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:12 pm
I’d rather have the dude heal up and be unleashed when it matters!
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The question becomes will he ever be healed up?He was hurt last year.He was hurt during the off-season.He has been hurt all of camp.When can we expect the dude to be ‘healed up’?
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:12 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:06 pm
Since blog is dying out and we have troll talk I have a question we can debate best running back ever. My vote is for Barry Sanders nobody did it better than him with crappy Olines could you imagine if he played with Dal. Scary thought. Had the greatest two yard runs I ever seen. Haven’t seen anyone like him since who could stop and cut on a dime. Probably will never be another Barry Sanders.
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Oh yeah and retired while still in his prime. Hate how Emmit smith got all the props that Barry should have gotten.
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:14 pm
Lefty, I agree. He’s beginning to worry me. Plus, I don’t know how he’ll fare in the WCO.
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:14 pm
lefty12 Says:
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:12 pm
I’d rather have the dude heal up and be unleashed when it matters!
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The question becomes will he ever be healed up?He was hurt last year.He was hurt during the off-season.He has been hurt all of camp.When can we expect the dude to be ‘healed up’?
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I wish I had that answer, hopefully sooner rather than later. Hate to see another Chaz story.
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:15 pm
All of our best offensive players are injured except for DMAC.
I don’t think we should play DMAC at all until the regular season.
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:16 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:12 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:06 pm
Since blog is dying out and we have troll talk I have a question we can debate best running back ever. My vote is for Barry Sanders nobody did it better than him with crappy Olines could you imagine if he played with Dal. Scary thought. Had the greatest two yard runs I ever seen. Haven’t seen anyone like him since who could stop and cut on a dime. Probably will never be another Barry Sanders.
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Oh yeah and retired while still in his prime. Hate how Emmit smith got all the props that Barry should have gotten.
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Unfortunetley that’s the difference between playing for a winner and a loser, The winner gets most of the accolades. Barry is the greatest no doubt though.
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:16 pm
Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:14 pm
lefty12 Says:
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:12 pm
I’d rather have the dude heal up and be unleashed when it matters!
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The question becomes will he ever be healed up?He was hurt last year.He was hurt during the off-season.He has been hurt all of camp.When can we expect the dude to be ‘healed up’?
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I wish I had that answer, hopefully sooner rather than later. Hate to see another Chaz story.
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To me, it’s just funny because all players are hurting out there, somewhere on their body. Is it just me, or were players just tougher back in the day?
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:16 pm
Taiwan Jones has 16 career carries………….
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:18 pm
KK-he kind of reminds me of Freddie Solomon and he flourished in that system.But if he can never be healthy,he is of no use to the team.
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:19 pm
KK-Jones is another one…..
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:20 pm
I don t see DMoore as a scrambling over the middle WR. I see him as a deep strike kind of guy
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:22 pm
“Since blog is dying out and we have troll talk I have a question we can debate best running back ever. My vote is for Barry Sanders nobody did it better than him with crappy Olines could you imagine if he played with Dal. Scary thought. Had the greatest two yard runs I ever seen. Haven’t seen anyone like him since who could stop and cut on a dime. Probably will never be another Barry Sanders.
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Oh yeah and retired while still in his prime. Hate how Emmit smith got all the props that Barry should have gotten.
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Unfortunetley that’s the difference between playing for a winner and a loser, The winner gets most of the accolades. Barry is the greatest no doubt though.”
When I was a kid growing up its OJ the Juice and there was no one bigger faster and stronger than him when he played. It was almost like watching a Senior in high school play football with a bunch of Jr High kids.
OJ was the best RB ever.
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:22 pm
Kirk Says:
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:15 pm
All of our best offensive players are injured except for DMAC.
I don’t think we should play DMAC at all until the regular season.
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A little more time with Carson and the offense won’t be a bad thing. (uh oh I better be careful what I say)
I know most will agree that when DMAC gets the rock we are equally excited and nervous at the same time. If DMAC goes down, so does our season. (until pocket hercules comes to the rescue haha)
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:23 pm
I think Walter Payton and Barry Sanders were both better backs than Emmit Smith.
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:23 pm
“I don t see DMoore as a scrambling over the middle WR. I see him as a deep strike kind of guy”
KK I cant see you scrambling anywhere and I would bet that you are a take it deep in the back side kind of guy.
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:24 pm
Lefty12 Says:
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:08 pm
If he didn’t prepare properly in the off-season he qualifies as a ‘corner cutter’.Regardless,he can’t help the team if he is always injured.He must either man up or there will come a point where his spot will be in danger.
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Not necessarily. He’s really young. If I knew then what I knew now about health and preparation, we know how that saying goes. The bottom line, Ive played pro sports, it was my job, I studied health and nutrition and training like my life depended on it, and years later, Im still learning.
The guy is a kid, with still a lifetime of learning ahead of him. You cannot call him a corner cutter for that. The human body is an ongoing science.
As for “manning up”…. With some injuries, we can demand that. But not with hammies. Like I said, improper treatment could cause permanent damage. This needs to be taken seriously.
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:24 pm
Just Win Baby Says:
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:23 pm
I think Walter Payton and Barry Sanders were both better backs than Emmit Smith.
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Nap Kaufman was a better back than Emmit imo
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:25 pm
I’m out holla from the casa!
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:28 pm
You really cant go wrong with picking any of these guys…
Jim Brown
Earl Campbell
OJ Simpson
Gale Sayers
Marcus Allen
Walter Payton
Roger Craig
Eric Dickerson
Barry Sanders
Emmit Smith
LaDanian Tomlison
Marshal Faulk
All true legitimate HOF’ers.
Personally, I think its hard to pick anyone over Jim Brown. But two guys had unreal skill sets and those were Walter Payton and Marcus Allen. They could catch like receivers and throw like QBs. Walter had the added power running game, but then agin, that was probably due to the ‘roids he was on. But I wont hold it against him considering that most in that era (and probably this one) were on something or another.
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:28 pm
The Great Jim Brown. Me and the wife met him. He thought she was sweet.
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:28 pm
Dmoore=Desean Jackson
Jford=steve smith(not as strong)
DHB=?
Streater=Marques Colston
Great Wr corp we don’t need anybody.
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:31 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:28 pm
Dmoore=Desean Jackson
Jford=steve smith(not as strong)
DHB=?
Streater=Marques Colston
Great Wr corp we don’t need anybody.
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I like the “Ecto-cooler” kool aid myself
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:32 pm
Riff-the point is he has had the same injury for the better part of 1 year.There comes a point where he either has to try and play or we have to cut ties.Maybe he should spend the year on IR?He can’t help the team when he is always injured.
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:33 pm
-JFord is not fit to carry Steve Smith’s jock strap
-Sreater has not played 1 NFL game yet
-Dmoore when healthy is awesome, When healthy is the key word.
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:34 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:28 pm
Dmoore=Desean Jackson
Jford=steve smith(not as strong)
DHB=?
Streater=Marques Colston
Great Wr corp we don’t need anybody.
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DHB would be Mike Wallace. Minus the crappy attitude and great hands.
Streater looks eerily like Rice. DMo plays like a young Andre Rison. I like the Ford/Smith comparison but Smith’s greatest strength is his toughness and so far, Smurf hasnt exactly been bulletproof.
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:35 pm
KoolKell Says:
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:28 pm
The Great Jim Brown. Me and the wife met him. He thought she was sweet.
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I’m sure she thinks everyone is sweet after being married to you. Zing! just playin mang
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:36 pm
DMo plays like a young Andre Rison.
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I like that comparison
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:37 pm
Lefty12 Says:
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:32 pm
Riff-the point is he has had the same injury for the better part of 1 year.There comes a point where he either has to try and play or we have to cut ties.Maybe he should spend the year on IR?He can’t help the team when he is always injured.
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I agree. This is ridiculous. I just have to take offense when it is suggested that he might be a “corner cutter” and explain why he is not.
But that doesnt, nor should it, alleviate your frustration. Im frustrated too.
Clearly, this injury is common on the team. I think we need to take a hard look at our training staff and ask them WTF they are doing to prepare these guys in the offseason. This injury is nearly a year old which tells me it never really healed.
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:37 pm
Barry sanders is no doubt the greatest Rb ever nobody has moves like him and of all the guys you named above none of them had a garbage Oline like Barry did and still rushed for 2000 yards and would be the all time leading rusher if he would not have retired early.
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:37 pm
Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:35 pm
KoolKell Says:
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:28 pm
The Great Jim Brown. Me and the wife met him. He thought she was sweet.
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I’m sure she thinks everyone is sweet after being married to you. Zing! just playin mang
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He thought she was sweet, but thanks classy guy.
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:39 pm
Moore plays more like Lynn Swann than Rison,IMO.The problem is he can never play.Ford=Smith in some fantasy world.Smith is one tough SOB.Ford is a glass doll.DHB might be more like Bob Hayes.
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:39 pm
Denarius “Bad Moon” Moore?..
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:41 pm
Raideraholic, “pocket hercules?”
That’s pretty good. Pryor reminds me of Eric Dickerson.
I have never seen a big man fake so many guys out of their jock straps.
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:41 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:37 pm
Barry sanders is no doubt the greatest Rb ever nobody has moves like him and of all the guys you named above none of them had a garbage Oline like Barry did and still rushed for 2000 yards and would be the all time leading rusher if he would not have retired early.
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You make a good case.
I was simply listing who I felt the true HOF’ers were. (Not the Hall-of-very-good as that is what theyve turned all the major sports HOF’s into).
Of that list, Barry is up there near the top. But we are splitting hairs.
Barry Sanders indeed played behind a crappy O-Line and for a crappy org and you are correct, should have broken the record. Im not sure if you guys know the true story but the reason he retired was out of respect for his hero, Walter Payton. True class.
I dont think you can go wrong with picking 5 or 6 of those guys from that list.
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:41 pm
Denarius “my i have some” Moore “please sir”
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:42 pm
Eric “sleeping with Bienemy”
Drew “Bledsoe much he needed to go to the hospital”
Michael (enter Tom Jackson) “hehe” Jackson
Vincent “ultimate brisby”
I’m here all day folks lol
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:43 pm
Dmoore=Desean jackson
And who the hell is Bob Hayes
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:45 pm
Eric Dickerson.
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man, everyone was a Raider at one time.
I forgot about his old a$$. He was amazing (pre Raider days of course) definetley a selfish mofo though.
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:45 pm
How about we let our young wrs play 1 good season before we compare them to great ones..
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:46 pm
The Pats have tons of wideouts on there roster, they will have to cut at least a couple of them, I’m sure Reg is keeping his eyes peeled.
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:48 pm
Barry sanders juke moves his what puts him above the rest C’mon NOBODY has moves like him and I doubt anyone ever will.
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:49 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:48 pm
Barry sanders juke moves his what puts him above the rest C’mon NOBODY has moves like him and I doubt anyone ever will.
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Not even Lonyae Miller??
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:50 pm
OJ was the best RB I believe I’ve ever seen.Not knocking Barry,just saying.It just goes to show how difficult it is to claim someone is the best of all time.
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:51 pm
R8ER MIKE Says:
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:41 pm
Denarius “my i have some” Moore “please sir”
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Too Chris Bermany…
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:53 pm
lol lol.. true DAV.. but its almost quiting time and i havent had a beer or a bud yet !! i will work on it and gat back to you !! lol lol
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:53 pm
If oj was a raider……. guilty
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:53 pm
lefty12 Says:
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:50 pm
OJ was the best RB I believe I’ve ever seen.Not knocking Barry,just saying.It just goes to show how difficult it is to claim someone is the best of all time.
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Did Orenthal threaten you with a knife to say that?
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:54 pm
Denarious “Don’t call me Mary tyler” Moore
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:54 pm
It is a shame Bo and Sayers careers were both cut short by injury.Both would have had to have been considered as maybe the best.
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:54 pm
Lefty12 Says:
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:50 pm
OJ was the best RB I believe I’ve ever seen.Not knocking Barry,just saying.It just goes to show how difficult it is to claim someone is the best of all time.
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OMG you are OLD!
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:56 pm
Never saw the juice play(only 30) but doubt he had moves like Barry.
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:57 pm
DMc will turn 25 next week. He has time to set these Raider rushing records.
career: 8546+ yds
season: 1760+ yds
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:58 pm
One thing you have to say about Orenthal and Jim Brown was they got impressive rushing totals with less games to play per season.
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:58 pm
Denarius moore underwent a procedure in germany today to remove all the vaglna from his hamstrings..
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:58 pm
OJ could run with more power and faster than that Bronco he was riding in.
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:59 pm
V12 Ford (with another flat tire) = Eric Metcalf
D “Wow” Moore = Mark Clayton
DHB = James Jett
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:59 pm
Raider J Says:
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:57 pm
DMc will turn 25 next week. He has time to set these Raider rushing records.
career: 8546+ yds
season: 1760+ yds
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I’d be much more happy if he could just play 15/16 games a year.
August 23rd, 2012 at 2:00 pm
Marks hair Says:
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:58 pm
Denarius moore underwent a procedure in germany today to remove all the vaglna from his hamstrings..
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I hear all that is left is just a few stray pubes.
He should be ready lol
August 23rd, 2012 at 2:00 pm
I hated Barry Sanders. But he was a great RB on krappy Lions team. Got tired of losing and walked away in his prime. Only Jim Brown did likewise. The others, OJ, Dickerson etc. hung on even though they were washed up. For QB’s, I have memories of Unitas finishing with the Chargers and Namath with the Rams. Not a pretty sight.
August 23rd, 2012 at 2:02 pm
Lefty12 Says:
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:54 pm
It is a shame Bo and Sayers careers were both cut short by injury.Both would have had to have been considered as maybe the best.
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Sayers made the list.
And I have no doubts Bo would have made the list and gone down as the greatest of them all.
He was faster than all the rest.
He had the power that Walter/Brown/Campbell had
He could throw like Marcus
He had the pain threshold of Emmit Smith
He could do it all. Freak injury to a relatively unknown part of the body that we werent able to heal at the time. Knee’s and ankles are far more complex joints but due to the frequency of those being injured, we have decades of research on how to fix them. The hip just wasnt common enough at the time.
Bo was arguably the greatest athletic specimen we’ve ever seen.
Another guy that should have made that list had his career went according to plan was Ricky Williams, the second coming of Earl Campbell.
August 23rd, 2012 at 2:03 pm
Raider J Says:
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:59 pm
V12 Ford (with another flat tire) = Eric Metcalf
D “Wow” Moore = Mark Clayton
DHB = James Jett
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Metcalf=Awesome
Fix.Or.Repair.Daily will be out of the league sooner rather than later.
Dmo if he can stay healthy better than Mark Clayton
DHB=James Jett hmmmmm… I think that is fair but I see DHB still getting better and have hope for him to surpass the world class sprinter.
August 23rd, 2012 at 2:05 pm
Had Bo never gotten hurt and Marinovich never partied his career away, we would have dominated the 90s.
August 23rd, 2012 at 2:06 pm
Raider Riff Says:
August 23rd, 2012 at 2:05 pm
Had Bo never gotten hurt and Marinovich never partied his career away, we would have dominated the 90s.
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Did you use the word dominate and T.Marinovich in the same sentence?
August 23rd, 2012 at 2:06 pm
Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:58 pm
One thing you have to say about Orenthal and Jim Brown was they got impressive rushing totals with less games to play per season.
They also played against stiffs. Todays athletes are much better.
August 23rd, 2012 at 2:07 pm
A sober Marinovich
A healthy Bo Jackson
Tim Brown in his prime
Steve Wisniewski
Chester McGlockton in his prime
A sober Darrel Russel
Terry McDaniel
Albert Lewis
Lionel Washington
Man…. we were poised for greatness.
August 23rd, 2012 at 2:08 pm
Barry Sanders = Most spectacular
Bo Jackson = Most dominant
Emmitt Smith = Most consistent
Marcus Allen / Marshall Faulk = Most versatile
Eric Dickerson = Most graceful
Edgerrin James = Most underrated
August 23rd, 2012 at 2:08 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
August 23rd, 2012 at 2:06 pm
Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:58 pm
One thing you have to say about Orenthal and Jim Brown was they got impressive rushing totals with less games to play per season.
They also played against stiffs. Todays athletes are much better.
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All things relative
August 23rd, 2012 at 2:08 pm
Exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
August 23rd, 2012 at 2:00 pm
I hated Barry Sanders.
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What?! How could anyone hate Barry Sanders? He played for a bad team, never complained, was never a diva, and was an amazing running back.
August 23rd, 2012 at 2:09 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
August 23rd, 2012 at 2:06 pm
Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:58 pm
One thing you have to say about Orenthal and Jim Brown was they got impressive rushing totals with less games to play per season.
They also played against stiffs. Todays athletes are much better.
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Jim Brown could have played today. So could have OJ.
They were that good of athletes.
August 23rd, 2012 at 2:09 pm
Raider Riff Says:
August 23rd, 2012 at 2:07 pm
A sober Marinovich
A healthy Bo Jackson
Tim Brown in his prime
Steve Wisniewski
Chester McGlockton in his prime
A sober Darrel Russel
Terry McDaniel
Albert Lewis
Lionel Washington
Man…. we were poised for greatness.
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Just replace Marinovich with Hostettler.
I liked his toughness
August 23rd, 2012 at 2:10 pm
I just wanna see the offense get into the endzone Saturday night.
Just to see that they can do it.
August 23rd, 2012 at 2:10 pm
Walter Payton = The blueprint for great RBs to follow
Earl Campbell = Most powerful
August 23rd, 2012 at 2:10 pm
Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
August 23rd, 2012 at 2:06 pm
Raider Riff Says:
August 23rd, 2012 at 2:05 pm
Had Bo never gotten hurt and Marinovich never partied his career away, we would have dominated the 90s.
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Did you use the word dominate and T.Marinovich in the same sentence?
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You can take any two words out of context and quote me to say whatever you want to hear.
August 23rd, 2012 at 2:10 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
August 23rd, 2012 at 2:10 pm
I just wanna see the offense get into the endzone Saturday night.
Just to see that they can do it.
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it will be very alarming if they don’t
August 23rd, 2012 at 2:11 pm
179.Klas Tjorborn Says:
August 23rd, 2012 at 2:08 pm
Exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
August 23rd, 2012 at 2:00 pm
I hated Barry Sanders.
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What?! How could anyone hate Barry Sanders? He played for a bad team, never complained, was never a diva, and was an amazing running back.
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What’s happening Klas? When u hunt trolls do you have them stuffed?
August 23rd, 2012 at 2:13 pm
Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
August 23rd, 2012 at 2:09 pm
Raider Riff Says:
August 23rd, 2012 at 2:07 pm
A sober Marinovich
A healthy Bo Jackson
Tim Brown in his prime
Steve Wisniewski
Chester McGlockton in his prime
A sober Darrel Russel
Terry McDaniel
Albert Lewis
Lionel Washington
Man…. we were poised for greatness.
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Just replace Marinovich with Hostettler.
I liked his toughness
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I loved the Hos, but he took a beating. And had a lot of trouble staying healthy for us. All his injuries is what made Al gunshy about Gannon and eventually was soured to risk his franchise on Gradkowski.
That aside, as far as being a pure QB, Marinovich was worlds better than Hos and tougher. Marinovich had some serious moxy about him.
Too bad he pissed it all away. I understand where it all went wrong, and its a sad story. He had the tools to be one of the greats.
August 23rd, 2012 at 2:13 pm
Raider Riff Says:
August 23rd, 2012 at 2:10 pm
Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
August 23rd, 2012 at 2:06 pm
Raider Riff Says:
August 23rd, 2012 at 2:05 pm
Had Bo never gotten hurt and Marinovich never partied his career away, we would have dominated the 90s.
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Did you use the word dominate and T.Marinovich in the same sentence?
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You can take any two words out of context and quote me to say whatever you want to hear.
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I’m not taking anything out of context, You said if Bo never got hurt and Todd stayed off the drugs the Raiders would have dominated the 90’s.
If bo would have stayed healthy with S.Beurline possibly even Hostetller I would agree.
Todd was a waste of space unfortunetley.
August 23rd, 2012 at 2:16 pm
Too bad he pissed it all away. I understand where it all went wrong, and its a sad story. He had the tools to be one of the greats
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Yes, it was a sad story.
August 23rd, 2012 at 2:24 pm
All this fear of Knapp ruining the offense has me less concerned cuz I feel Palmer is a guy who knows that this is his make or break his career yr.
He’s getting older and realizes time is limited to make his mark and leave a solid legacy. He’s not getting into the hof no matter what he does..unless he gets the MVP three yrs. in a row and wins at least one SB, but this is chance to show that he can be elite like he was in 2005.
I’m telling you guys, he will not accept being totally hamstrung in an offense where he feels like he’s operating in quicksand. There’s too much at stake for him.
If this offense stalls, he will lobby and do whatever it takes to make it operational for him and the Raiders.
He will not just lower his head and say “it’s ok if we suck..i understand we have this new system and it takes time”. Not for long at least.
That’s why I have faith this team will make the adjustments to make this work.
August 23rd, 2012 at 11:28 pm
I agree, Ford made some awesome plays but the # of the awesome plays were to few and far in between. Ford thought that he “arrived” because of those spectacular plays but then he went on vacation and just “went through the motions” when we needed him most. That was the lack luster attempt (didn’t go after it) in the S.D. game last year. That play caused us the playoffs. Steater, on the other hand, looks like he has got “it”. He looks like a natural at that position. Moore also looks like a natural receiver. Him and Moore will probably turn out to be the best tandem we have had since Rice and Brown got us to the SB!!! DHB is big strong and still progressing. He has ability but does not look like a natural. You have to deliver the ball in the exact right spot for him to catch it. Moore and Streater will make CP look better than he is.