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Raiders break camp in high spirits

By Steve Corkran
Thursday, August 23rd, 2012 at 1:58 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Today marked the 19th and final practice for the Raiders in the Napa portion of their training camp. With the final horn came players sprinting off the field, players darting for the exit from the field and coach Dennis Allen warning people to be careful of players and coaches making a beeline for Highway 29.
Through it all, Allen and players say, the Raiders leave here a better team than the one that arrived July 28. Yet, everyone admits there’s still plenty of work to do between now and the regular-season opener Sept. 10 against the San Diego Chargers.
“I thought it was good work,” Allen said. “I thought it was good work. I thought we had a chance to get better. Our guys worked extremely hard. We still have a long way to go and a lot of things we have to continue to improve on, but I thought it was a good foundation to build on.”
Veteran safety Mike Mitchell has been a part of four training camps, under three head coaches. He singled out this one as the best of them all.
“It was pretty good,” Mitchell said. “We got a lot of good work done. I like to only talk about defense because that’s what I play. This is the best that we’ve been this early in the year as far as having less confusion, things of that nature. We pretty much got a sound scheme.
“This game will tell us a lot of how we’re going to be because everyone is going to play, we got a real scheme and everything. So, I’m really excited about it. It’s been a really good camp.”
Defensive tackle Richard Seymour knows a thing or two about what makes for a good camp. He calls this one a nice start.
“I’m a firm believer that the cream will always rise to the top,” Seymour said. “It may not start out that way and, also, little things, if you don’t address them, they can become glaring weaknesses for you as well. We’re in a position now to continue what we’ve started to build. We’ve laid the foundation but just because you got a good foundation don’t mean you got a good roof over your head, either.”

– Linebacker Aaron Curry hasn’t practiced in more than two months, and he remains in the physically unable to perform list as a result of sore knees. Even so, Allen isn’t counting out Curry for the regular-season opener.
“No, not to that point,” Allen said, when asked if Curry has missed too much time to be counted upon for the opener. “Now what role he plays, we’ll see. I’m not going to make any decision on him as far as ruling him out or not, at least until we get into game week.”
It’s important to note that Curry still won’t be able to practice at full capacity until three days after he is activated because of the acclimation period set forth in the new collective bargaining agreement.
Therefore, he’s looking at one week’s worth of practice, at best, to prepare for the Chargers game.
The other option for the Raiders is to leave Curry on the P.U.P. list, which would force Curry to miss at least the first six regular-season games. The deadline to make that decision is fast approaching.

– Speaking of Seymour, he missed practice for the fourth straight time since he played Friday night against the Arizona Cardinals.
Seymour confirmed that he isn’t injured, as Allen said, but just taking it easy on his achy knees. Allen said the plan is for Seymour to play.
“I’m not sure,” Seymour said. “It will be a game-time decision. I just want to be smart and, I’m not one to say preseason games don’t matter, I definitely think they matter. They build your foundation in terms of getting ready for the season. They’re definitely important games, but we’ll do what’s best for the team.”

– Backup quarterback Matt Leinart also said he isn’t sure if he’ll play Saturday as a result of the wound he suffered to his right (non-throwing hand) index finger against the Cardinals.
“We’ll see,” Leinart said. “I got a good little gash on there. I’ve been doing as much as I can this week. I just want to get it healthy as quick as possible, so I’m ready for Week 1.”
Leinart practiced in a limited capacity all week, while being mindful of his injury.
“I didn’t take really any snaps this week,” Leinart said. “We’ll probably see how it’s feeling on Saturday, taking a few snaps. My main goal is just to get it healthy before the season and be able to go by the time the regular season’s here.”

– The Raiders entered camp with pretty much the same players they still have on their roster as they pulled out of Napa.
Defensive tackle Travis Ivey was cut early in camp and linebacker Mario Kurn and wide receiver Duke Calhoun suffered season-ending injuries. Linebacker Korey Bosworth is the only new face in camp.
Allen said there might come a time soon when the Raiders add some players.
“There’s a lot of factors that go into it,” Allen said. “We’ve got our cap situation is where it is from a financial standpoint. We feel good about the players that we have and then we’ll look to add to the roster as we get through probably the 75-man cut and the 53-man cut.”

– Another constant has been the projected starters. The players that lined up during offseason workouts are the same ones slated to start the opener.
Naturally, that might change if Curry and/or wide receiver Denarius Moore is/are unable to play. However, the point is made.
“There’s been some good competition throughout camp at different positions,” Allen said. “Some of it because of an injury standpoint a guy hasn’t moved up like you thought he would or a guy has moved up because of an injury. There’s been competition, but the guys who are listed number one on the depth chart, right now we feel like those are the guys that give us the best chance of winning.”

– Refreshing to hear a coach admit something that few others are confident enough to do. Allen said he isn’t beyond sitting on a player in exhibition games as a means of preventing that player from performing well enough to catch the attention of other teams.
The benefit, of course, is that it would be easier for the Raiders to bring back a player that gets cut next week to either the practice squad or even the 53-man roster.
“We’re going to try to do everything we can to keep the guys we feel like will be good football players,” Allen said. “We’ll decide those as we go along. We certainly don’t want to make available a guy we think might be a good player.”
So, would that entail not playing a guy as much, coach?
“Potentially, if we feel like we have guys who will fit that category,” Allen said.
Well played.

– Tight ends Richard Gordon (ribs) and Tory Humphrey (hamstring) were among those who missed practice. Allen said both will be game-time decisions Saturday night.

– Now that the players are out of the confines of hotel rooms and on their own, so to speak, Allen said it’s imperative that players such as Seymour, quarterback Carson Palmer and guard Cooper Carlisle keep them in line when it comes to spending their free time.
“That’s where our veteran leadership on the team has to take over,” Allens aid. “This is a business. We all got a job to do. We’re all held accountable to a certain standard. We have to make sure everybody is there and available and part of that is your personal business.”

– Wide receiver/kick returner Jacoby Ford showed up at practice wearing a walking boot as a means of protecting his injured left foot. Allen said the diagnosis remains the same: a sprain.
“There’s been no change,” Allen said. “It’s the same as what we said before. We’re hopeful that we can get him out of the boot pretty soon and see where he’s at.”

– Sounds as if it’s a safe bet that the Raiders will be returning to Napa in 2013 for an 18th straight year, based on Allen’s endorsement.
“I enjoyed it,” Allen said. “We have a great situation here in Napa. This is, as far as the setup is, the best training camp I’ve ever been a part of from that standpoint. The weather’s been great, the hotel has been outstanding. That’s been good. Our work has been good. I was pleased with what we did here in training camp.”

– The Raiders are off Friday and Sunday, with a game against the Detroit Lions sandwiched in between. They practice next in Alameda on Monday.

– Reminder: There is a live chat Friday at noon. Here’s the link: http://bit.ly/SZF3ii

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632 Responses to “Raiders break camp in high spirits”

  1. Marks hair Says:

    Beeeww

  2. lefty12 Says:

    Klas-yep.

  3. JB Says:

    Curry to PUP? If so, he’s out for 1st 6 weeks.

  4. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 2:00 pm
    I hated Barry Sanders.
    —-
    What?! How could anyone hate Barry Sanders? He played for a bad team, never complained, was never a diva, and was an amazing running back.

  5. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Let me jog everyones memory. Walking boot on Jacoby Ford. Hmmm, Walking boot on DMAC last season. Sprain turned out to be LisFranc. Hope my intuition is 100% wrong.

  6. DutchRaider77 Says:

    Didn’t DHB have Hamstring issues his first 2 years?

  7. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Maybe God has cursed Curry’s knees so he can fulfill his true calling as a reverend.

  8. The Big Banana Says:

    Ford needs to grab himself a snickers bar.

  9. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    4.Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 2:09 pm
    Exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 2:00 pm
    I hated Barry Sanders.
    —-
    What?! How could anyone hate Barry Sanders? He played for a bad team, never complained, was never a diva, and was an amazing running back.

    ===============================================
    I said he was a great back. But he was the enemy when the Lions came and played the Raiders in L.A. Long and Townsend would bottle him up and he just magically shifted and scooted through the line into the secondary. Unbelievable runner but not a Raider! lol

  10. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Exlaraider, I only remember one game against Barry Sanders in Detroit. Bo vs. Barry, the Raiders won that game.

  11. TxRaider210 Says:

    Klas

    Maybe Rod the God has Curry’s knees!lol

  12. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Raiders vs. Lions

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtGT7IIPK5w

  13. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    yo

  14. Raider O Says:

    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 12:54 pm
    O

    That is just crazy man, I’d go the home-schooling route.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    We have been doing it since she was 2-3, but she needs mote than what we can offer at home. She needs social skills, communication skills, playing with kids her age, etc…

  15. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    This is good stuff:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzhY5Quok-E&feature=related

    Stephen A. Smith vs. Jamarcus Russel

  16. eastoaklandraider Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 2:09 pm

    Exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 2:00 pm
    I hated Barry Sanders.
    —-
    What?! How could anyone hate Barry Sanders? He played for a bad team, never complained, was never a diva, and was an amazing running back.
    _______________

    The best ever

  17. TxRaider210 Says:

    O

    I hear ya on that man, don’t want her missing out on the important things, friends/fun and such. Still better to pay the money than use the public system and take risks on the quality of education.

  18. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Fat slob Jabba the Hut Jamarcus Russel! LMAO

  19. TxRaider210 Says:

    Barry was great, but I’d still rather tackle him than Bo, just sayin.

  20. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Barry was easy to tackle if you could catch him. Bo would make you flat like Swedish pancake.

  21. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Real test for our secondary with Calvin Johnson.

  22. Raider O Says:

    Riff,

    Your post in the prev thread about socialism and capitalism is money, and that’s why I prefer capitalism. If it wasn’t for capitalism, I can’t afford a new car without using credit, can’t afford private schools, etc…

  23. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    LOL, how many of you guys were at this draft day party at Ricky’s when they drafted Jamarcus.

  24. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dx1FeGV86KY

  25. Raider O Says:

    Tx,

    I know bro, but damn. $5500 for K classes?!
    They are Effing me, and I don’t like that. lol

  26. Raider J Says:

    19. Bo might knock you out by running you over. Barry might snap both of your acl’s with a juke move like he did Woodson…and without contact!

  27. Raider Riff Says:

    Raider O Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 2:20 pm
    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 12:54 pm
    O

    That is just crazy man, I’d go the home-schooling route.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    We have been doing it since she was 2-3, but she needs mote than what we can offer at home. She needs social skills, communication skills, playing with kids her age, etc…

    ———————

    Isnt that what organized activities are for? Like camps and sports teams?

    If your paying that sorta money for your kid to go to a school to “socialize” rather than learn, you are wasting your money.

    I was homeschooled. I did at least 3 hours of schoolwork every day after school with my mother. She didnt trust the school system. But she did send me their to socialize.

    8 hours a day just to learn to socialize is a waste of time IMO. Especially since “socializing” will only get a kid in trouble.

    Funny thing is, that I was so worried about my grades, I didnt have time to socialize and play much.

    Point being, there are better and cheaper ways to get your kid social interaction. And social interaction is overrated anyways.

    Whatever you do, dont stop the homeschooling or tutoring O.

  28. Raider J Says:

    20. Barry was easy to tackle?!?

  29. TxRaider210 Says:

    LOL Klas that schit was funny

  30. TxRaider210 Says:

    Raider O Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 2:30 pm

    Tx,

    I know bro, but damn. $5500 for K classes?!
    They are Effing me, and I don’t like that. lol
    ——————–
    Yeah that’s a lot of dough man, but Riff brought up good points about home schooling/tutoring.

  31. Raider Riff Says:

    Raider O Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 2:28 pm
    Riff,

    Your post in the prev thread about socialism and capitalism is money, and that’s why I prefer capitalism. If it wasn’t for capitalism, I can’t afford a new car without using credit, can’t afford private schools, etc…

    —————–

    In socialist states in Europe, the parents send their kids to school to actually LEARN and not use it as a day-care like we do in America. Thus the teachers are able to actually teach instead of running an asylum.

    No need for private schools in socialists states where the citizens are responsible citizens.

    We as Americans arent made for socialism. Which is why weve failed every single social program we’ve attempted. Including the public school system.

    Private schools are decent, but I prefer to have much more control over what my children are learning. The curriculums being taught are basically written by corporations with agendas. Our kids arent learning the real history of our world, our Imperialism, or the truths behind our fabulous way of life.

    These days, schools are more about teaching a kid how to sit straight, be quite, follow orders, and respect “authority”. Basically getting them acclimated to a police state. And if a kid cannot do that, he’s diagnosed with ADD and given drugs.

    Im sorry, but if there is a 7 year old that can sit straight and be quite for 6 straight hours, Im way more worried about that kid than the one that wants to go run around outside.

    Thats why Im going to go the private tutor/homeschool route. I can get more done in 4 hours with the kid privately than he can learn in a week in a public school. Then the child can spend the rest of the day being a actual kid. Club sports teams and YMCA type stuff.

  32. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Mel Kiper said Russell was John Elway like. He said in 2-3 years he would be a top 5 QB. So sad.

  33. KoolKell Says:

    “I’m not sure,” Seymour said. “It will be a game-time decision. I just want to be smart and, I’m not one to say preseason games don’t matter, I definitely think they matter. They build your foundation in terms of getting ready for the season. They’re definitely important games, but we’ll do what’s best for the team.”

  34. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Kell, thanks, but we can read for ourselves.

  35. TxRaider210 Says:

    Mel Kiper is usually somewhat accurate, Jawalrus had lots of folks fooled, looked good in college.

  36. KoolKell Says:

    The Koch Brothers, would definitely prefer rednecks home school their children, so that climate warming, evolution and other scientific matters won’t be in their way of a ignorant population, and persistent questions about carbon dioxide and such.

  37. Raider O Says:

    Riff & Tx,

    That an excellent idea Riff, and we thought about it, but we decided on a private school for a lot reasons including socialization but mainly education. My wife and me want to continue our education, I want to start working in the finance sector, so we don’t have the time to educate her at a high level like we did before.
    I appreciate your advice.

  38. Raider Riff Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 2:39 pm
    Mel Kiper said Russell was John Elway like. He said in 2-3 years he would be a top 5 QB. So sad.

    ——————

    He never would have had Elway’s mobility.

    Could he have been a good QB? Sure. Just never for us. Weve never once developed a QB in all of our franchises history with exception of Stabler.

    All of our best QB’s came pre-developed too us. Plunkett, Hostetler, George, Gannon, & CP3

    Every time we had a chance to develop a guy we screwed it up: Marinovich (his own fault), Billy Joe, Tui, Andrew Walter, Jamarcuss

    Al’s org wasnt very QB friendly. It’s a treacherous road being a young QB in the NFL as it is, trying to do it in pro sports most dysfunctional franchise makes it near impossible.

  39. TxRaider210 Says:

    Raider O Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 2:45 pm

    Riff & Tx,

    That an excellent idea Riff, and we thought about it, but we decided on a private school for a lot reasons including socialization but mainly education. My wife and me want to continue our education, I want to start working in the finance sector, so we don’t have the time to educate her at a high level like we did before.
    I appreciate your advice.
    ———————–
    Sounds like you’re ahead of the game bro, I can’t be much help, don’t have any children yet.lol

  40. KoolKell Says:

    Why do White Republicans hate Public Education?

    So that poor & middle-class, minority kids won’t be able to compete with their kids in the new era.

    Afterall, Demographic trends are against them.

  41. Raider Riff Says:

    Raider O Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 2:45 pm
    Riff & Tx,

    That an excellent idea Riff, and we thought about it, but we decided on a private school for a lot reasons including socialization but mainly education. My wife and me want to continue our education, I want to start working in the finance sector, so we don’t have the time to educate her at a high level like we did before.
    I appreciate your advice.

    —————————

    No worries. I appreciate you not taking offense to my suggestions. Some people can get super protective and defensive when it comes to advise on children rearing.

    Just make sure you make your kid read on the side. Important political and philosophical stuff that they wont teach at a American school these days.

    If I remember correctly, you are Muslim right? Dont expect our history books to teach a remotely accurate account of what the Nation of Islam is really about. Dont expect our history books to be honest about our manipulations in Arabia and Persia over the past 60 years. Im sure you know exactly what Im talking about.

  42. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Al’s org wasnt very QB friendly. It’s a treacherous road being a young QB in the NFL as it is, trying to do it in pro sports most dysfunctional franchise makes it near impossible.
    —–
    That is true. But, Jamarcus would have failed on all 32 NFL teams.

  43. Raider O Says:

    I also forgot to mention another important reason for choosing that private school which is teaching her Arabic. They also teach French/ Spanish.

  44. TxRaider210 Says:

    KK

    Realize one thing about the meaning of minority, it’s a number or percentage so to say. This means that in any given city, the minority can be different, just sayin.

  45. jesusraiderjim Says:

    No need for private schools in socialists states where the citizens are responsible citizens.

    ————————————–
    don’t they actually pay teachers better in socialist states? thought I read some place that finland pays the teachers a really good wage and they have one of the highest rated education systems in the world. Just tryin to learn something? How about it Klas, any input? Rock it like a Swede doin “The Safety Dance”

  46. Raider O Says:

    Riff,

    You are $$$$ today.
    It’s a Muslim/ Arabic private school.

  47. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    The real minorities are smart people.

  48. Raider Riff Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 2:49 pm
    Why do White Republicans hate Public Education?

    So that poor & middle-class, minority kids won’t be able to compete with their kids in the new era.

    Afterall, Demographic trends are against them.

    ——————————————-

    Im not a Republican.

    I dont hate the public school system. I hate the parents that fail it by not motivating their kids to go to school with the intent of learning. This is mostly a white problem.

    Teachers/coaches are not their to motivate. That is the parents or students job. If the teacher or coach is busy motivating a student, then that time is wasted because no teaching is going on.

    If the student or player is motivated, the teachers/coaches job is a million times easier and more likely to succeed.

    Our countries students are not motivated. That is why our public school system has failed.

  49. KoolKell Says:

    Why do White Republicans hate Public Education?

    So that poor & middle-class, minority kids won’t be able to compete with their kids in the new era, and maintaining power

    Afterall, Demographic trends are against them.

  50. TxRaider210 Says:

    Truth Klas

  51. Sullivan44 Says:

    Kell, ever since the president got elected, Republicans have just been talking all of this ending government stuff. It’s a scare tactic.

  52. Raider Riff Says:

    Jesusraiderjim Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 2:52 pm
    No need for private schools in socialists states where the citizens are responsible citizens.

    ————————————–
    don’t they actually pay teachers better in socialist states? thought I read some place that finland pays the teachers a really good wage and they have one of the highest rated education systems in the world. Just tryin to learn something? How about it Klas, any input? Rock it like a Swede doin “The Safety Dance”

    ———————

    It has nothing to do with what they are paid.

    Teaching is a relatively easy job. It only gets difficult when the student doesnt want to learn.

    Anyone can teach. It doesnt take a advanced degree to do so. And its one of the most gratifying and rewarding experiences one can get in life. It does not require a high salary to do well.

    “Those that can…do. Those that cant….teach”

  53. TxRaider210 Says:

    KK

    News flash:

    There are actually rednecks out there who hate O’Reilly/Limbaugh type douchebags. Point is, there’s trash in every race pal, pick one.

  54. Raider O Says:

    Tx,

    Enjoy life as much ss you can bro. Having kids = a lot of sacrifice like paying $5500 for K classes. lol
    Every 4 years of her education = brand new car.

  55. Raider Riff Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 2:54 pm
    The real minorities are smart people.

    ————-

    Post of the day.

  56. TxRaider210 Says:

    Stamp it.

  57. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Education in Sweden is very good. We pay more taxes but we get more back.

  58. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    I feel that more taxes isn’t the way for America, though. More taxes in your country would just lead to more money spent on the military.

  59. KoolKell Says:

    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 2:57 pm

    KK

    News flash:

    There are actually rednecks out there who hate O’Reilly/Limbaugh type douchebags. Point is, there’s trash in every race pal, pick one.
    ————————-
    Absolutely agree. I’m married to one of them “devils” ;-)

    Unfortunately, the Republican Party’s base is made up mostly of the O’Reilly/Limbaugh douchebags you speak of.

  60. Raider O Says:

    Point is, there’s trash in every race pal, pick one.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Exactly Tx.

  61. TxRaider210 Says:

    O

    I hear that man, I will enjoy my time for sure. Maybe once 2 years with the lady come around, we’ll consider a child.

  62. TxRaider210 Says:

    Absolutely agree. I’m married to one of them “devils” ;-)

    Unfortunately, the Republican Party’s base is made up mostly of the O’Reilly/Limbaugh douchebags you speak of.

    ———————-
    You’d be surprised man, the talking heads on TV are there for a reason, many people are turning away from the two party platform.imo

  63. Raider O Says:

    Riff,

    I agree with Jim. Teacher’s salaries contribute to the problem. It’s not the main reason, but it doesn’t help when teachers have no respect or money. Why would our young bright minds consider careers in teaching, if there is no money or glory in that sector.

  64. RaiderRetribution Says:

    America spends more on our military to protect you Sweden and many other countries who can not protect themselves.

  65. KoolKell Says:

    You’d be surprised man, the talking heads on TV are there for a reason, many people are turning away from the two party platform.imo
    ————————-
    While at the same time professing their love of the Constitution. Sure.

  66. RaiderRetribution Says:

    #5, me too!

  67. KoolKell Says:

    Teachers with a puny salary, then having to spend their money on school supplies? C’mon.

  68. TxRaider210 Says:

    KK

    Many dems are lawyers and studied the Constitution man.

  69. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    RaiderRetribution Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 3:06 pm
    America spends more on our military to protect you Sweden and many other countries who can not protect themselves.
    ——
    Hah hah! That is the funny. Good joke!

  70. Raider Riff Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 3:00 pm
    Education in Sweden is very good. We pay more taxes but we get more back.

    ——————–

    For as great as your education is, the way youre treating Julien Assange is pretty stupid. Do I need to go into detail?

    Be careful before you go tooting your horn too loudly. Sweeden doesnt have a lot to be proud of at the moment.

  71. Raider O Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 3:08 pm
    Teachers with a puny salary, then having to spend their money on school supplies? C’mon.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Excellent point. They are amazing. I have a ton of respect for these peole, but those are the minority.

  72. KoolKell Says:

    While giving the Oil Industry 7 billion a year of Tax Payer money.

    Sure the Koch Bros are happy.

  73. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Who is USA protecting Sweden from? The Iranians? North Korea? The Fins?

  74. KoolKell Says:

    Why do you think most engineers in silicon Valley are foreigners?

  75. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    For as great as your education is, the way youre treating Julien Assange is pretty stupid. Do I need to go into detail?
    ——
    I never said Sweden is perfect. I disagree greatly with its drug laws.

  76. Raider O Says:

    Stop picking on the Swedes. They gave us Ikea.
    Go Swedes!!

  77. Raider Riff Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 3:08 pm
    Teachers with a puny salary, then having to spend their money on school supplies? C’mon.

    ———————

    Teachers are forced to spend tremendous amounts of their budgets on corporate curriculums.

    The first mistake is letting a teacher be in control of that sort of budget. If youve never made six figures in your life, you have no business spending someone elses.

    Secondly, the main problem is that the teachers are forced to use these curriculums and arent allowed to create their own. Thus saving the budget for better use.

  78. RaiderDuck Says:

    Raider Riff Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 2:13 pm

    Too bad he pissed it all away. I understand where it all went wrong, and its a sad story. He had the tools to be one of the greats.

    ===========================================

    Todd Marinovich embodies the old cliche: If you don’t let your children act like children when they’re children, they’ll act like children when they’re adults instead.

  79. KoolKell Says:

    Teachers are forced to spend tremendous amounts of their budgets on corporate curriculums.

    The first mistake is letting a teacher be in control of that sort of budget. If youve never made six figures in your life, you have no business spending someone elses.

    Secondly, the main problem is that the teachers are forced to use these curriculums and arent allowed to create their own. Thus saving the budget for better use.
    ———————-
    Corporate curriculum’s? Yeah right.

  80. KoolKell Says:

    Raider Riff Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 3:13 pm

    The first mistake is letting a teacher be in control of that sort of budget. If youve never made six figures in your life, you have no business spending someone elses.
    ————————-
    ??????? See what I’m saying folks?

  81. Raider Riff Says:

    Raider O Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 3:05 pm
    Riff,

    I agree with Jim. Teacher’s salaries contribute to the problem. It’s not the main reason, but it doesn’t help when teachers have no respect or money. Why would our young bright minds consider careers in teaching, if there is no money or glory in that sector.

    —————————

    We dont need our “young brite minds” considering careers in teaching at the elementary or highschool level. Its not a job that requires a rare skillset. Its relatively easy.

    The hard part is finding willing students these days.

  82. Raider Riff Says:

    O, if you dont believe me, take a look at high paid NBA coaches. All highly paid and competent teachers, very few willing students.

  83. Raider Riff Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 3:15 pm
    Teachers are forced to spend tremendous amounts of their budgets on corporate curriculums.

    The first mistake is letting a teacher be in control of that sort of budget. If youve never made six figures in your life, you have no business spending someone elses.

    Secondly, the main problem is that the teachers are forced to use these curriculums and arent allowed to create their own. Thus saving the budget for better use.
    ———————-
    Corporate curriculum’s? Yeah right.

    ——————-

    Your ignorance is really showing thru right now.

    You clearly have no idea how the school system works. Nor do you have a clue how they go about being sold their curriculums or who sells them their curriculums.

  84. Dhidee99 Says:

    TP is going to be AWSOME, he is actually being groomed to be a starter like Aaron Rodgers was! Yes I’m comparing the two QB’s. I remember when Rodgers came out of college the number one knock on him was he was not a very accurate passer with a weak arm and that’s why SF went with Alex Smith!! I’m not done yet if you look around the league at the Elite QB’s they all had to play Back up to someone for a full season or two before they got their shot. Farve/Rodgers, P.Manning/Captain Comeback aka Jim Harbaugh/, Rivers/Brees, E.Manning/Warner, Brady/Bledsoe, Brees/ Flutie. Some of these guys Like TP were even Third String QB’s, and like TP and were consider Very Long Shots and they have Won Superbowls so why not our guy? I remember when People were saying Drew Brees had a Noodle for an Arm and was too Short to make a differnce at QB. Now thousands of yards later and a Superbowl not to mention all-time single season passing record look at Brees now. Give TP at least two real years learning the QB trades before you start to pass Judgments. We finally have a good situation for someone to learn the position and not have the pressure to be the immediate starter

  85. TxRaider210 Says:

    84

    Good post, I’ll remain a TP supporter as long as he works hard and improves, which is the case now.

  86. Raider O Says:

    We dont need our “young brite minds” considering careers in teaching at the elementary or highschool level. Its not a job that requires a rare skillset. Its relatively easy.

    The hard part is finding willing students these days.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Excellent point. Even in college it was hard to find willing student who are eager to learn. It seemed to me students were more interested in a certificate that can help them with employment.

  87. Raider Riff Says:

    RaiderRetribution Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 3:06 pm
    America spends more on our military to protect you Sweden and many other countries who can not protect themselves.

    —————-

    America spends more on its military than the rest of the world combined.

    And we do so to protect our foreign interests. Modern colonialism and oppression at its finest.

  88. Sullivan44 Says:

    There’s nothing funnier in politics today than tea baggers purporting to know how things “work”.

  89. daraider09 Says:

    84, yes good post, I hope you’re right on this one.

    I would love to see that kid succeed.

    One correction though, Manning didnt learn behind Harbaugh. He started right away, his first season and went 3-13 with a ton of yards passing and a ton of picks. He’s defintely the exception to the rules though. Most successful QBs need the pressure free grooming period.

  90. Sullivan44 Says:

    It’s amazing what you can learn about this world by just watching FoxNews and going with your gut instinct.

  91. Raider Riff Says:

    Raider O Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 3:27 pm
    We dont need our “young brite minds” considering careers in teaching at the elementary or highschool level. Its not a job that requires a rare skillset. Its relatively easy.

    The hard part is finding willing students these days.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Excellent point. Even in college it was hard to find willing student who are eager to learn. It seemed to me students were more interested in a certificate that can help them with employment.

    ——————————

    That is because the only people who can afford University level schooling these days are kids who have their parents paying for them. And those students are the least motivated.

    Unfortunately, the kids that really want to be there cant afford it. Student loans are impossible to get thanks to the banking cartels.

    Kids that pay their own way are the best students and the most likely to end up with degrees and educations that will be worth anything. But “theyve” made that type of student near extinct these days.

  92. KoolKell Says:

    Raider Riff Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 3:27 pm

    America spends more on its military than the rest of the world combined.
    —————————
    Sure, we have to defend the Koch Bros interests around the world. Lol.

  93. Sullivan44 Says:

    “the military has to clean up the government’s mess” – my favorite tea bagger quote

  94. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Dhidee99 Nice post!

    Yes I have been had on TP about his throwing ability but like I mentioned earlier we are not paying much for him as a developmental player so its best if we all sit back and enjoy watching him grow into an NFL QB.

  95. Raider Riff Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 3:31 pm
    It’s amazing what you can learn about this world by just watching FoxNews and going with your gut instinct.

    ———————–

    If you think you are getting anything close to the real news by only those two sources, Fox and your gut, you are sadly mistaken.

    I advise you to learn two new languages and start getting your news from more than one country and in more than one language.

    Read papers, magazines, books, credible writers, and credible (even alternative) websites.

    It also doesnt hurt to read history books from multiple nations. South America’s version of how we’ve ravaged that continent is a lot different than the accounts given in our own history books. Take Panama for example.

    Then you will get a full spectrum of what is going on. And even then, its murky.

  96. TxRaider210 Says:

    Some angry folks in here eh? Can you play football?

  97. Marks hair Says:

    64. Protect sweeden??

  98. Raider O Says:

    That is because the only people who can afford University level schooling these days are kids who have their parents paying for them. And those students are the least motivated.

    Unfortunately, the kids that really want to be there cant afford it. Student loans are impossible to get thanks to the banking cartels.

    Kids that pay their own way are the best students and the most likely to end up with degrees and educations that will be worth anything. But “theyve” made that type of student near extinct these days.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    If there is a will, then there is a way. I paid for one semester, and then I earned a full scholarship. Didn’t pay a single $ after my 1st semester.

  99. KoolKell Says:

    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 3:34 pm

    Some angry folks in here eh? Can you play football?
    ———————
    Really, are you angry?

  100. Sullivan44 Says:

    I know two languages. English, and the language of love.

  101. Dhidee99 Says:

    if you guys wanna talk politics go to the HUFFINGTON POST!!! BLOG SPOT!!!

  102. Sullivan44 Says:

    Does it really surprise anyone that tea baggers want to cut education? They’re trying to level the playing field.

    “government keep your hands off my medicare!”

  103. TxRaider210 Says:

    KK

    Denzell Washington for President, deal?lol

  104. Raider Riff Says:

    We should all be angry.

    The corporations that are running this planet are F’ing us all in the a55.

    To the third world countries in Africa, the Middle East and South America, they get no lube.

    We in America get lubed up on occasion.

    Either way, everyone is getting F’d. We should all be pissed off and looking to burn the banks, the oil cartels, and the politicians that take their bribes.

  105. Raider O Says:

    LMAO Riff. It pays to be the banker.
    BOO
    Bank Of Omerica coming soon near you.
    Help us F you!

  106. TxRaider210 Says:

    Jamie Dimon and Blythe Masters own America.

  107. TxRaider210 Says:

    You are spot on Riff.

  108. Sullivan44 Says:

    We don’t need to be angry. We need to be solution oriented and ignore alarmists.

  109. TxRaider210 Says:

    O
    LMAO

  110. Marks hair Says:

    Nobody ever won a war bltchlng online..

  111. TxRaider210 Says:

    Problem is, the sinking USA doesn’t have an alarm, that is why it’s destined to fail.

  112. Sullivan44 Says:

    I’m at peace with the president. He has my support. I smile at those who believe he’s an enemy of the country.

  113. TxRaider210 Says:

    If you walk through a burn ward at an Army hospital, one may question endless war. Years of seeing this made me anti-war, whomever the candidate may be.

  114. RaiderDuck Says:

    RB Kahlil Bell is getting cut. Supposed to be a ZBS back. Should Reggie pull the trigger?

  115. Raider Riff Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 3:44 pm
    We don’t need to be angry. We need to be solution oriented and ignore alarmists

    —————–

    The days of asking politely are over my friend.

    We are dealing with stone-cold gangsters. They respect nothing but the sword.

    When we line up at the voting booth, that is the equivalent of asking politely and they all laugh at us.

    Name one gangster that respects asking politely? It doesnt exist. They only respond to leverage, threats, and muscle.

    Its time we fight fire with fire. Until then, it will be more of the same ol same ol.

    Dont belive me? Then keep sitting on your thumbs while discussing “solutions”. Meanwhile they will simply print more money out of thin air so they can pay off anyone and everyone that steps in their way.

    And when bribes dont work, the jackals step in. And when the assasinations dont work, that is when the military will step in.

    If you dont think they will declare marshall law on us in a heartbeat you are kidding yourself. The people involved in this are so caught up in their own lives and specialized that they arent even aware of the machine they take part in.

    Until we are ready to get our hands dirty, nothing will change. That is the sad truth.

  116. KoolKell Says:

    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 3:38 pm

    KK

    Denzell Washington for President, deal?lol
    ———————
    You can be silly if you want, not funny though.

  117. TxRaider210 Says:

    Raider Riff Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 3:53 pm

    Sullivan44 Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 3:44 pm
    We don’t need to be angry. We need to be solution oriented and ignore alarmists

    —————–

    The days of asking politely are over my friend.

    We are dealing with stone-cold gangsters. They respect nothing but the sword.

    When we line up at the voting booth, that is the equivalent of asking politely and they all laugh at us.

    Name one gangster that respects asking politely? It doesnt exist. They only respond to leverage, threats, and muscle.

    Its time we fight fire with fire. Until then, it will be more of the same ol same ol.

    Dont belive me? Then keep sitting on your thumbs while discussing “solutions”. Meanwhile they will simply print more money out of thin air so they can pay off anyone and everyone that steps in their way.

    And when bribes dont work, the jackals step in. And when the assasinations dont work, that is when the military will step in.

    If you dont think they will declare marshall law on us in a heartbeat you are kidding yourself. The people involved in this are so caught up in their own lives and specialized that they arent even aware of the machine they take part in.

    Until we are ready to get our hands dirty, nothing will change. That is the sad truth.
    ————————-
    You are right, UN troops, coming to a hood near you.

  118. Sullivan44 Says:

    Riff, the days of asking politely are over? You can ask me as impolitely as you wish. My answer remains the same.

  119. TxRaider210 Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 3:54 pm

    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 3:38 pm

    KK

    Denzell Washington for President, deal?lol
    ———————
    You can be silly if you want, not funny though.
    ———————
    Why because he support the troops, on his own dime and is anti-war?

  120. TxRaider210 Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 3:56 pm

    Riff, the days of asking politely are over? You can ask me as impolitely as you wish. My answer remains the same.
    ——————-
    Best wishes to you, go Raiders!

  121. Sullivan44 Says:

    I smile at your ignorance and hostility, Riff. And I believe it’s driven more by mental illness than any sort of political or moral resolve.

  122. Dhidee99 Says:

    If the Seahawks release Owens should we give him a good look?

  123. Raider O Says:

    Tx,

    Why do you think I studies finance.
    Give us your money, and we will give you 1%, take a loan and we will charge you 5% and a FEE.
    It pays to be a banker.

  124. Sullivan44 Says:

    We need Plaxico.

  125. Raider O Says:

    LMAO Tx.

  126. Marks hair Says:

    No you keep sitting on your thumbs..lol
    Take out a kock brother and maybe somebody will join your rebelion.. if your just gonna talk sht why should anybody care?

  127. TxRaider210 Says:

    Raider O Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 3:58 pm

    Tx,

    Why do you think I studies finance.
    Give us your money, and we will give you 1%, take a loan and we will charge you 5% and a FEE.
    It pays to be a banker.
    ———————–
    If your bank is too big to fail, you get 0 percent interest(from Bernanke) forever, to screw the people Glorious!lol

  128. KoolKell Says:

    Why because he support the troops, on his own dime and is anti-war?
    ————————-
    Tx, You people always wrap yourself in the flag, while cutting VA benefits.

    You wouldn’t vote for Denzell Washington to save your life. Go bullschit somebody else.

  129. RaiderSam Says:

    One guy to keep an eye on. MJD is out, but this guy could be a possibility

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/23/kahlil-bell-refuses-pay-cut-gets-cut-by-bears/#comments

    Bears waived Kahlil Bell.
    The move was reportedly precipitated by Bell’s refusal to accept a paycut from $1.26 million to $700,000 as the third-string tailback. Bell played an important fantasy role down the stretch last season with 116.3 scrimmage yards per in the final three games of the season. Although Bell is well worth a flier for team with a zone-blocking scheme
    Source; Rotoworld

    i’ll tell you right now, i’d take him over Mike Goodson any time…seems like they are sticking with him because they actually traded something to get him…even with Bell’s struggles to chip block, he grades out higher than Goodson – but both fumble. (sigh)

    A.Carter might be worth the signing, too.

  130. Sullivan44 Says:

    Considering what the president inherited, I think he’s doing remarkably well. We could be in a depression right now. We’re not. Not even close. Could very well be that it’s the president’s policies that prevented the complete collapse of the economy.

  131. Marks hair Says:

    I bet tx would vote for denzell.

  132. RaiderSam Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 3:31 pm
    It’s amazing what you can learn about this world by just watching FoxNews and going with your gut instinct.

    ———

    Chicken hawks and supporters of tyrants. BOTH MAJOR CHANNELS.

  133. TxRaider210 Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 4:02 pm

    Why because he support the troops, on his own dime and is anti-war?
    ————————-
    Tx, You people always wrap yourself in the flag, while cutting VA benefits.

    You wouldn’t vote for Denzell Washington to save your life. Go bullschit somebody else.
    ————————
    Are you mad to see a smart, successful actor support wounded warriors out of pocket? He’s a stand up guy.

  134. Raider Riff Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 3:58 pm
    I smile at your ignorance and hostility, Riff. And I believe it’s driven more by mental illness than any sort of political or moral resolve.

    ——————————-

    My hostility? How dare you you ignorant POS.

    Want to know what is hostile? Bombing the livinghell out of Panama and killing 5000 innocent civilians in what is one of the most blatant acts of terrorism in the history of our country.

    Why? Because we wanted the Panama canal back.

    We’ve ravaged and destroyed South America and you want to say Im the hostile one? Get a grip dude.

    Monsanto is spending 25 million this year to try and shoot down a bill in California so that they dont have to tell you when you are eating genetically modified foods.

    These people are out to poison you and you want to say Im hostile? Go F yourself.

    Im sick of everyone getting F’d over for a buck. Doing things the peaceful way hasnt worked. Im not hostile, Im realistic. And Im sick and tired of the BS. It’s gone on too long.

    You try and go play nicely with the CIA my friend. See where that gets you. As if those bastards deserve it. They, along with the LAPD, are responsible for the crack epidemic of the 80s that was basically genocide on America’s black population.

    Yeah, those are the types that respond well to kumbaya peaceful gatherings. Wake the F up man.

  135. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Allen said it’s imperative that players such as Seymour, quarterback Carson Palmer and guard Cooper Carlisle keep them in line when it comes to spending their free time.

    *********************************

    I noticed during the coin flip against the Cardinals, that these 3 along with DHB were our team captains.

    Savage!!!!

  136. TxRaider210 Says:

    Marks hair Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 4:05 pm

    I bet tx would vote for denzell.
    —————–
    Over the other two turds the media hypes up, heck yeah man.

  137. Marks hair Says:

    Why ask ppl on a sports blog to wake up?…. start your revolution.. you dont need us to hold your hand do you?

  138. TxRaider210 Says:

    Raider Riff Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 4:07 pm

    Sullivan44 Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 3:58 pm
    I smile at your ignorance and hostility, Riff. And I believe it’s driven more by mental illness than any sort of political or moral resolve.

    ——————————-

    My hostility? How dare you you ignorant POS.

    Want to know what is hostile? Bombing the livinghell out of Panama and killing 5000 innocent civilians in what is one of the most blatant acts of terrorism in the history of our country.

    Why? Because we wanted the Panama canal back.

    We’ve ravaged and destroyed South America and you want to say Im the hostile one? Get a grip dude.

    Monsanto is spending 25 million this year to try and shoot down a bill in California so that they dont have to tell you when you are eating genetically modified foods.

    These people are out to poison you and you want to say Im hostile? Go F yourself.

    Im sick of everyone getting F’d over for a buck. Doing things the peaceful way hasnt worked. Im not hostile, Im realistic. And Im sick and tired of the BS. It’s gone on too long.

    You try and go play nicely with the CIA my friend. See where that gets you. As if those bastards deserve it. They, along with the LAPD, are responsible for the crack epidemic of the 80s that was basically genocide on America’s black population.

    Yeah, those are the types that respond well to kumbaya peaceful gatherings. Wake the F up man.
    ————————–
    Some people won’t get it man, until a drone parks in front of their house, sent by their savior. Very good post!

  139. Sullivan44 Says:

    Riff, all of those acts of violence were committed and/or orchestrated by people that harbor the same thoughts as you do.

  140. Raider O Says:

    Tx,

    Poor bankers! lol
    Let the people help banks because they are too big to fail is bullcrap. If they are dumb enough to fail then they deserve to fail.
    I hate that crap.

  141. Sullivan44 Says:

    What drone, Tx? When will this drone arrive in front of my house? The same day as Bigfoot?

  142. Marks hair Says:

    137. Im down.. whos vp? Maybe clint eastwood?

  143. TxRaider210 Says:

    O

    Yep, and JP Morgan has failed three times and been bailed out by us, fascist dictatorship at it’s finest.

  144. TxRaider210 Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 4:12 pm

    What drone, Tx? When will this drone arrive in front of my house? The same day as Bigfoot?
    ———————-
    Hey dummy, ask the people of Katrina if the feds will impose martial law, then get back to me.

  145. Sullivan44 Says:

    Fear, fear, fear.

    Tx and Riff may not belong to either party, but their means of using fear to sway people toward their politics is right in line with both parties, especially the GOP, which entirely relies on fear today.

  146. TxRaider210 Says:

    Marks hair Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 4:14 pm

    137. Im down.. whos vp? Maybe clint eastwood?
    ————————–
    Cool with me man, anyone who will end all wars, including the one on drugs.

  147. Raider O Says:

    Riff,

    You are arguing with MR? Why bro?

  148. KoolKell Says:

    Marks Hair Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 4:14 pm

    137. Im down.. whos vp? Maybe clint eastwood?
    —————-
    How bout Randy Travis?

  149. Dhidee99 Says:

    So back to football Any guesses on surprize cutz? next week

  150. Twocents Says:

    The state gets more powerful with every passing day and some fools cheer it on. Very disturbing.

  151. Marks hair Says:

    No im changing the vp to merryl streep..

  152. TxRaider210 Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 4:16 pm

    Fear, fear, fear.

    Tx and Riff may not belong to either party, but their means of using fear to sway people toward their politics is right in line with both parties, especially the GOP, which entirely relies on fear today.
    ———————
    Oh, I don’t belong to either cartel, hurts my heart:(

  153. Raider Riff Says:

    Raider O Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 4:17 pm
    Riff,

    You are arguing with MR? Why bro?

    ———————————–

    My bad.

    I havent been around long enough to know just how dumb some of these people can be.

    I got no grudges against KK or MR. Ive seen them take quite a beating here but I never knew why until now.

    Im done with arguing with MR. KK on the other hand I still think there is hope for.

  154. Dhidee99 Says:

    Who is our biggest cap risk for preformance?

  155. Sullivan44 Says:

    Tx, why are you calling me childish names?

    And I think I’ll let the Katrina victims speak for themselves. Have you even seen Spike Lee’s documentary about Katrina? There is no better feature film or news story made about Katrina in existence, and none that gives the victims more of a voice. I’ll bet you haven’t seen it.

  156. Raider O Says:

    Tx,

    Poor people bailing out rich bankers?!
    Sounds fair to me.
    BOO!!!

  157. TxRaider210 Says:

    150

    Truth, the ones who are “entitled”

  158. KoolKell Says:

    Oh, I don’t belong to either cartel,
    ————————–
    Tx, I’d bet dollars to doughnuts you voted for Bush. The one who started a false war in Iraq.

    Are you a Vet? doubt it. I am. :-)

  159. Marks hair Says:

    Drones are all over the place.. but this is still a sports blog.. so man up and run for mayor… please.. just find something to do..

  160. Sullivan44 Says:

    twocents,

    I don’t cheer on the government becoming more powerful. I just laugh at those who exaggerate it, especially those who jumped on the anti-government kick the minute the president got elected. Their agenda is blatantly obvious.

  161. Raider O Says:

    Twocents Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 4:17 pm
    The state gets more powerful with every passing day and some fools cheer it on. Very disturbing.
    $$$$$$$$$$$

    They are Effing us and people want to argue about Reps vs Dems.

  162. Dhidee99 Says:

    THIS IS A FOOTBALL BLOG WHO E’
    FFING CARES!!!!!!

  163. TxRaider210 Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 4:21 pm

    Oh, I don’t belong to either cartel,
    ————————–
    Tx, I’d bet dollars to doughnuts you voted for Bush. The one who started a false war in Iraq.

    Are you a Vet? doubt it. I am. :-)
    ——————
    I don’t vote dummy, you should do something else with your time:)

  164. Sullivan44 Says:

    Tx, you certainly belong to one of the “cartels”, and some of us can clearly see which one.

  165. Dhidee99 Says:

    THEY HAVE OTHER FORUMS FOR THAT STUFF GO BE SMART POLITICAL BRAINS THERE

  166. Marks hair Says:

    I will only vote for actors from now on..

  167. Sullivan44 Says:

    Riff and Tx are starting with the childish insults now. That means they’re out of ideas. That means they lost the intellectual debate.

  168. Raider Riff Says:

    Im not using fear.

    Im using history. You know, that thing that tends to repeat itself over and over again unless we do things differently.

    Again, try reading a book or two. LEARN before speaking. It does wonders.

  169. TxRaider210 Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 4:23 pm

    Tx, you certainly belong to one of the “cartels”, and some of us can clearly see which one.
    ———————
    Like I said before, I wish you the best. Any football talk?

  170. Marks hair Says:

    Mark D for governor.. free the weed

  171. KoolKell Says:

    I don’t vote dummy, you should do something else with your time:)
    ———————
    Then you need to stfu. Lol.

  172. Raider O Says:

    We need a guy like J Carter or B Clinton. A guy who cares for Americans and the human race, or a guy who is business savvy.
    I love you J Carter!

  173. The Big Banana Says:

    Monsanto is spending 25 million this year to try and shoot down a bill in California so that they dont have to tell you when you are eating genetically modified foods.

    These people are out to poison you and you want to say Im hostile? Go F yourself.

    ———

    So true. Big business first poisons you with food, then with drugs. Stick you from both ends.

    Monsanto is throwing a crapload of money at this thing. I’m afraid they just might defeat it. People are stupid/ignorant as a whole and will vote for whichever side airs the most commercials/advertisements. Sad.

  174. Twocents Says:

    Sully, you are blinded by the fact that your party is in power. Nothing has changed. The figureheads are just tools.

  175. Sullivan44 Says:

    Riff, history actually repeats itself because of reactionary people such as yourself. You want to change history, be happy. Enjoy life.

  176. Marks hair Says:

    John carter of earth? Surprisingly decent movie

  177. KoolKell Says:

    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 4:22 pm
    KoolKell Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 4:21 pm

    Oh, I don’t belong to either cartel,
    ————————–
    Tx, I’d bet dollars to doughnuts you voted for Bush. The one who started a false war in Iraq.

    Are you a Vet? doubt it. I am.
    ——————
    I don’t vote dummy, you should do something else with your time:)
    ———————-
    I’d say people who don’t vote probably also don’t know a damn thing about the issues. Sounds like it.

  178. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    It is getting crazy in here. You all need to smoke some weed and come to Sweden for some meatballs and skiing.

  179. Seymour Bush Says:

    The Big Banana Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 4:27 pm

    So true. Big business first poisons you with food, then with drugs. Stick you from both ends.

    Monsanto is throwing a crapload of money at this thing. I’m afraid they just might defeat it. People are stupid/ignorant as a whole and will vote for whichever side airs the most commercials/advertisements. Sad.
    ====================================

    That is the result of the dumbing down of the educational systems. (See Clown, Jamista)

  180. Sullivan44 Says:

    twocents,

    plenty has changed. The current president just so happens to not come from wealth, vast oil and military connections, and a father who was president himself. You’re calling me blinded?

  181. Raider Riff Says:

    Raider O Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 4:26 pm
    We need a guy like J Carter or B Clinton. A guy who cares for Americans and the human race, or a guy who is business savvy.
    I love you J Carter!

    ———————–

    We need a lot more than that.

    Sadly, I feel its beyond repair. There are plenty out there whom are going to side with Monsanto regarding Prop 37. Tons out there who still want to argue about gay marriage. And way too many who care about what the Kardashians are up too.

    It doesnt look good for us.

  182. Raider O Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 4:25 pm
    I don’t vote dummy, you should do something else with your time:)
    ———————
    Then you need to stfu. Lol.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    WTF is TX thinking. He should vote to earn the right to talk about his gov even if he doesn’t like the candidates.
    Great Logic!

  183. TxRaider210 Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 4:25 pm

    I don’t vote dummy, you should do something else with your time:)
    ———————
    Then you need to stfu. Lol.
    —————-
    Kell I pay taxes I can say what I please. Stand in line with all the other old farts, you’ll all have poopy diapers so nobody will really care.

  184. Sullivan44 Says:

    Tx, you really can’t say what you please anywhere just because you pay taxes. This blog is privately owned. They can bounce you for any reason, including speech they deem inappropriate. Your rights to free speech are only guaranteed on public property. Consider that yet another lesson today. Free of charge.

  185. Marks hair Says:

    And the only ppl who care think that bltchlng on a sports blog is the best way to change the country..
    We’re doooooomed!!!

  186. The Big Banana Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 4:28 pm
    It is getting crazy in here. You all need to smoke some weed and come to Sweden for some meatballs and skiing.

    ——

    I’m down! Love Sweden.

  187. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Even saw the lights of the Goodyear Blimp,
    and it read, ‘Klas is A Pimp.’
    Drunk as hell, but no throwin’ up;
    halfway home and my pager’s still blowin’ up.
    Today I didn’t even have to use my A.K. …

  188. KoolKell Says:

    Kell I pay taxes I can say what I please. Stand in line with all the other old farts, you’ll all have poopy diapers so nobody will really care.
    ——————
    You pay taxes and don’t vote??????????

  189. Twocents Says:

    Voting just adds legitimacy to the criminals. What if nobody voted?

  190. Raider O Says:

    We need a lot more than that.

    Sadly, I feel its beyond repair. There are plenty out there whom are going to side with Monsanto regarding Prop 37. Tons out there who still want to argue about gay marriage. And way too many who care about what the Kardashians are up too.

    It doesnt look good for us.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    You are right.
    J Carter tried to warn us, but most people don’t like him and think he is weak because of the Iranian issue. Too bad most people remember him for that and nothing else.

  191. The Big Banana Says:

    And way too many who care about what the Kardashians are up too.

    ——

    Lol, Riff. Funny, sad, and true.

  192. KoolKell Says:

    Kell I pay taxes I can say what I please. Stand in line with all the other old farts, you’ll all have poopy diapers so nobody will really care.
    ——————
    You pay taxes and don’t vote?????????? Just clean your gun???????

  193. Seymour Bush Says:

    It doesnt look good for us.
    ======================================

    Every election has more and more riding on it. I can certainly understand where most citizens do not see any difference between parties. But most of what you guys have been railing against, (health and environmental catastrophes, corporate greed, unwarranted military invasions,) are more the conservatives. In fact it is almost completely the conservatives.

  194. Sullivan44 Says:

    twocents, I’m not aware of any crimes the president has committed. I’ll be voting for him.

  195. TxRaider210 Says:

    Kell

    I’m a bass fishin’ country Raider fan that doesn’t vote, who’d have thunk it?

  196. Raider O Says:

    Twocents Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 4:33 pm
    Voting just adds legitimacy to the criminals. What if nobody voted?
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Exactly!

  197. Sullivan44 Says:

    Twocents, you are not aware of any crimes that the president has committed, either.

  198. Marks hair Says:

    Today WAS a good day klas..

  199. KoolKell Says:

    Kell

    I’m a bass fishin’ country Raider fan that doesn’t vote, who’d have thunk it?
    ———————
    So you just pay your taxes and clean your pole? don’t vote? Lmao, sorry.

  200. Raider Riff Says:

    Raider O Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 4:34 pm
    We need a lot more than that.

    Sadly, I feel its beyond repair. There are plenty out there whom are going to side with Monsanto regarding Prop 37. Tons out there who still want to argue about gay marriage. And way too many who care about what the Kardashians are up too.

    It doesnt look good for us.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    You are right.
    J Carter tried to warn us, but most people don’t like him and think he is weak because of the Iranian issue. Too bad most people remember him for that and nothing else.

    —————————

    Most people dont have a clue as to what really went down in Iran.

    Jimmy Carter installed solar panels on the Whitehouse roof. Regan took them down the day he moved in.

    Jimmy Carter negotiated giving Panama back to Panama. Bush Sr went and bombed the cr@p out of them and killed thousands of innocent people to take the canal back.

  201. Sullivan44 Says:

    A lot of the President’s critics and outright haters have vast resources of money and lawyers at their disposal. The president is a criminal, and still no charges? Nonsense.

  202. Seymour Bush Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 4:37 pm

    Twocents, you are not aware of any crimes that the president has committed, either.
    ========================================

    I think twocents wants to get rid of the Federal Reserve and go back to the gold standard. Which is fine, if you have mountains of gold and a gold mine. If you don’t, then that is just plain silly.

  203. TxRaider210 Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 4:36 pm

    twocents, I’m not aware of any crimes the president has committed. I’ll be voting for him.
    ===============
    Geneva convention, Nuclear non proliferation treaty, Posse Comitatus..shall I go on..

  204. Raider Riff Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 4:34 pm
    It doesnt look good for us.
    ======================================

    Every election has more and more riding on it. I can certainly understand where most citizens do not see any difference between parties. But most of what you guys have been railing against, (health and environmental catastrophes, corporate greed, unwarranted military invasions,) are more the conservatives. In fact it is almost completely the conservatives.

    —————————–

    My friend, it goes both ways. The corporations have their hands in the pockets of both sides.

    Seriously, follow the money trail and you will see that this isnt a conservative vs liberal thing.

  205. Twocents Says:

    Let’s see, targeting an American citizen for assination without due process sounds criminal to me.

  206. Marks hair Says:

    Your vote doesnt count anyway..

  207. Sullivan44 Says:

    Tx, sure, go on. Why hasn’t the president been charged for any of these crimes? With foes like the Koch brothers, the GOP and their army of lawyers? No charges? Sure you’re not stretching things just a little?

  208. Raider Riff Says:

    The Big Banana Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 4:32 pm
    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 4:28 pm
    It is getting crazy in here. You all need to smoke some weed and come to Sweden for some meatballs and skiing.

    ——

    I’m down! Love Sweden.

    ———————–

    No. F Sweeden. That country is on my sh1tlist right now. Follow the Julien Assange debacle and you’ll know why.

  209. Seymour Bush Says:

    Jimmy Carter installed solar panels on the Whitehouse roof. Regan took them down the day he moved in.
    ============================================

    See post #193. The President announced his energy policy which invests in renewable job creating resources like wind and solar. After meeting with coal miners last week, Romney announced his energy policy (See BP spill) of drilling off the Gulf of Mexico and both coasts for more oil. Which we will sell to the Chinese.

  210. TxRaider210 Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 4:41 pm

    Tx, sure, go on. Why hasn’t the president been charged for any of these crimes? With foes like the Koch brothers, the GOP and their army of lawyers? No charges? Sure you’re not stretching things just a little?
    —————-
    Because they are one corrupt club, and even you ain’t in it.

  211. Sullivan44 Says:

    twocents, the president has haters with enough money and big enough arsenals of lawyers to take down Heaven. And they can’t get charges against him for war crimes? Something doesn’t add up. (meaning, your logic).

  212. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    The U.S. president is above the law. Only thing that will get him in trouble is cheating on his wife.

  213. Twocents Says:

    “assassination”, my bad.

  214. Sullivan44 Says:

    Tx,

    the president’s critics are in a “club” with him? The Koch brothers are in a “club” with the president? Which club? Go into detail, Tx. Or follow your own advice, and talk football.

  215. Raider O Says:

    Riff,

    You are $$ today. I enjoyed the chat.

  216. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    No. F Sweeden. That country is on my sh1tlist right now. Follow the Julien Assange debacle and you’ll know why.
    —–
    F Sweden?! (you could at least spell the name of my country correctly) You will regret those words when our army of Aryan Super Soldiers invades your weak country and makes you bow to Odin’s hammer.

  217. KoolKell Says:

    Seriously, follow the money trail and you will see that this isnt a conservative vs liberal thing.
    ———————-
    Follow the Tax payer Billions of dollars (money) go from the Bush Admin money to Halliburton.

    I haven’t heard of any liberals doing schit like that.

  218. TxRaider210 Says:

    Sully/Kell

    Go ahead and melt down on the blog, you are clearly out of your mind. Best wishes, from the Alamo:)

  219. Raider O Says:

    I enjoyed the chat today. Later Gents.

  220. Raider Riff Says:

    Raider O Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 4:46 pm
    Riff,

    You are $$ today. I enjoyed the chat.

    ——————————–

    Thx O.

    Im always money BTW.

    But I enjoyed it too. I felt our politics/philosophy stuff was pretty progressive until junior high got let out and the dunce patrol strolled in.

    I love that my boy twocents showed up.

    I was having so much fun I turned down sex from my 22 year old blond girlfriend tonight in order to stay in the discussion hahahaha. Sad but true.

  221. Twocents Says:

    That we are a nation of laws only applies to the “mundanes”. Our rulers are above the law. Just as it has always been.

  222. KoolKell Says:

    Seriously, follow the money trail and you will see that this isnt a conservative vs liberal thing.
    ———————-
    Follow the Tax payer Billions of dollars (money) go from the Bush Admin money to Halliburton. Then starting a fake war, that made Halliburton Billions. Dick Cheney was the VP of both, btw.

    I haven’t heard of any liberals doing schit like that.

  223. realtruraider Says:

    Jim Irsay‏@JimIrsay

    SERIOUS TRADE WINDS Swirling! We’re talking given up high pick for SERIOUS Vet/Starter!.. these deals often crumble n don’t reach completion
    ————————————-

    Jim Irsay‏@JimIrsay

    Colts Fans..Your GM Mr Grigson isn’t afraid to roll the dice n aggressively improve YOUR Indianapolis Colts..n my check book stands ready!
    ——————————————————-

    The Jags wouldn’t trade MJD to the Colts, would they?

  224. Marks hair Says:

    Not enough raider fans left for a conversation.. later guys

  225. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    By Marks Hair, get a hair cut!

  226. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Savage Carlisle!!!

    Coming to a second level of a defense near you, diving at your ankles and generally annoying the dogpiss out of you, all the while never being penalized.

  227. TxRaider210 Says:

    Later Marks Hair

  228. The Big Banana Says:

    Lol, JFB

  229. TxRaider210 Says:

    Later O

  230. TxRaider210 Says:

    Bout to watch the cincy D beat up on Benson.

  231. realtruraider Says:

    Are you Ready for some Football! YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAH!!!

  232. KoolKell Says:

    This great Country, and the Middle-Class was built by liberal Keynesian Economics. Not Conservative Trickle-down.

  233. Twocents Says:

    Raider Riff, It is hopeless trying to talk sense to the statists on here. But it is fun!

  234. bunk moorland Says:

    Riff

    wasnt the president of panama going to award japan the contract to modernize the canal? Haliburton would of lost billions. That guy died in a plane crash then bush sr helps get norriaga in.

  235. Raider Riff Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 4:48 pm
    Seriously, follow the money trail and you will see that this isnt a conservative vs liberal thing.
    ———————-
    Follow the Tax payer Billions of dollars (money) go from the Bush Admin money to Halliburton.

    I haven’t heard of any liberals doing schit like that.

    —————–

    That is because you dont have a clue how Halliburton actually makes their money.

    Companies like Haliburton and the other contracting firms dont typically get paid via tax revenue. They get their money from the countries they work in. Those countries get loans from international monetary/bank funds. Our country underwrites the loans. The loans are written with inflated economic forecasts for these countries. Companies like Haliburton are the ones doing the forecast so the more they inflate the numbers, the greater their profits and the less likely the buying country is of being able to pay back the loan. The always default. And that is when our government steps in and asks for collateral in the form of publicly owned resources. And then the real damage gets done.

    It’s been going on for decades. During republican and democratic presidencies. Weve been at war or colonizing non-stop. (We go to war when a country refuses the terms of the loan we are offering them).

    Im highly oversimplifying things for the sake of the blog. Please forgive me.

    The sad thing is, everything these companies do is legal. And they do it out in the open. Nobody notices or really cares.

    It’s one big cartel. The banks, the contractors, the politicians, the corporations. Everyone has their hand in the pot. It’s just the current presidents crews turn. Prior to that, it was a near 30 year run by the Bush family and his cohorts.

    Dont kid yourself into thinking one side is any worse or better than the other.

  236. DutchRaider77 Says:

    A. Rogers has 4 carries for 42 yards and two TDs?

  237. Raider Riff Says:

    Bunk Moorland Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 4:58 pm
    Riff

    wasnt the president of panama going to award japan the contract to modernize the canal? Haliburton would of lost billions. That guy died in a plane crash then bush sr helps get norriaga in.

    —————————

    Exactly. Its a bit more complicated than that, but yes, that is the short story.

  238. The Big Banana Says:

    Realtruraider Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 4:56 pm
    Are you Ready for some Football! YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAH!!!

    ———–

    Yesssssir!!! 18 days, 3 hours, 15 minutes till we unleash the nasty on SD and Charger fan cries himself to sleep in the basement.

  239. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “Considering what the president inherited, I think he’s doing remarkably well. We could be in a depression right now. We’re not. Not even close. Could very well be that it’s the president’s policies that prevented the complete collapse of the economy.”

    Sullie has a point here.

    As a person who dislikes both parties and will vote Independent. I can explain to you all of you why Vegas has the president so heavily favored right now.

  240. Twocents Says:

    Keynesian economics has been discredited in so many ways that it is hard to believe that anyone could make such a statement.

  241. The Big Banana Says:

    2 hours, my bad,

  242. KoolKell Says:

    Companies like Haliburton and the other contracting firms dont typically get paid via tax revenue.
    ———————-
    Oh, they weren’t serving American GI’s in Iraq? the Iraqi’s paid for that? oh. I’m so stupid.

  243. Just Fire Baby Says:

    666,

    PLease stop with that!!!

    There is no odds in Vegas on the presedential election. None. Zip. Not allowed to take wagers. Some of the rinky-dink places may put out a line to generate some pub, but they can’t take wagers. Ceasers, MGM, Wynn…..no odds.

    Has to be sporting events only. Can’t even bet on who will win the MVP award.

  244. UCLA Raiders Says:

    Reggie,
    Sign Khalil Bell who was just cut by the bears. It completes the circle : Bush there and he here.
    As you can tell from my name UCLA Raiders, I’m a UCLA grad. That’s right I went to school. It’s hard to fathom.
    I was extremely high on MJD when he came outa UCLA years ago and kept urging Raiders to get him but that’s history.

    Now I’m not saying KBell is MJD but he’s a serious serious serious upgrade over Goodson. And he doesn’t fumble and is a work horse. He was a stud at UCLA who left early. And he was having an awesome camp with the cheap Bears.
    Why are we trying to fix Goodson’s issues holding on the ball when we could get Bell?

    Get Bell and cut Goodson.

  245. blackandsilverside Says:

    It’s tough know that the big corps, financial institutions, Mitt Romney, war capitalists and rest of their ilk have gutted the middle class of this country.

    In terms of numbers that is probably less than a million people who are destroying America and oppressing the 329M who remain.

    If Mitty, Cheney, and some of their cohorts were looking down the business end of a rope (as well they should) things might change.

    I sincerely wish Mitty would change that idiotic white check shirt he seems to wear every day.

  246. bunk moorland Says:

    August 23rd, 2012 at 4:58 pm
    KoolKell Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 4:48 pm
    Seriously, follow the money trail and you will see that this isnt a conservative vs liberal thing.
    ———————-
    Follow the Tax payer Billions of dollars (money) go from the Bush Admin money to Halliburton.

    I haven’t heard of any liberals doing schit like that.

    —————–

    That is because you dont have a clue how Halliburton actually makes their money.

    Companies like Haliburton and the other contracting firms dont typically get paid via tax revenue. They get their money from the countries they work in. Those countries get loans from international monetary/bank funds. Our country underwrites the loans. The loans are written with inflated economic forecasts for these countries. Companies like Haliburton are the ones doing the forecast so the more they inflate the numbers, the greater their profits and the less likely the buying country is of being able to pay back the loan. The always default. And that is when our government steps in and asks for collateral in the form of publicly owned resources. And then the real damage gets done.

    It’s been going on for decades. During republican and democratic presidencies. Weve been at war or colonizing non-stop. (We go to war when a country refuses the terms of the loan we are offering them).

    Im highly oversimplifying things for the sake of the blog. Please forgive me.

    The sad thing is, everything these companies do is legal. And they do it out in the open. Nobody notices or really cares.

    It’s one big cartel. The banks, the contractors, the politicians, the corporations. Everyone has their hand in the pot. It’s just the current presidents crews turn. Prior to that, it was a near 30 year run by the Bush family and his cohorts.———————————————————————————-

    you ever read “confessions of an economic hitman” that book is about everything in your post.

  247. Raider Riff Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 4:57 pm
    This great Country, and the Middle-Class was built by liberal Keynesian Economics. Not Conservative Trickle-down.

    —————————–

    Both systems can be cooked to show whatever the chef wants them to show.

    Our country was first built on slavery

    Then built on the banking cartels and putting Europe in debt to us after the world wars

    Then we learned how to colonize countries through capitalization. We went after the Middle East and all of South America.

    We’ve lived pretty good off the backs of others. Lets not pat ourselves on the back too hard.

  248. KoolKell Says:

    Twocents Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 5:01 pm

    Keynesian economics has been discredited in so many ways that it is hard to believe that anyone could make such a statement.
    ————————
    Facts mean nothing to you conspiracy minded people.

  249. Just Fire Baby Says:

    “Nevada sports books are not permitted to accept wagers on presidential elections, the Academy Awards or the winner of the TV show “Survivor.” Some sports books may post odds on these events as a publicity stunt, but these odds are for amusement only. They are not real betting lines.

    Under state law, wagers must involve the outcome of “athletic contests” rather than elections or votes of any kind. This means you cannot even bet on who will win awards such as the Most Valuable Player, Rookie of the Year, Cy Young and the like.”

  250. realtruraider Says:

    UCLA

    Is he really any good? He was an UDFA and I haven’t heard much about him. Is he a bigger back? Sorry I guess I can just use the google machine

  251. Raider Riff Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 5:03 pm
    Companies like Haliburton and the other contracting firms dont typically get paid via tax revenue.
    ———————-
    Oh, they weren’t serving American GI’s in Iraq? the Iraqi’s paid for that? oh. I’m so stupid.

    ——————————-

    Yes the were serving the GI’s. But it isnt the American taxpayer that will pay the bill.

    Iraq will be in debt to the international banking funds (which we indirectly control) for a very long time. They will pay the IMF’s all back with their petrodollars and tax free contracts to let us go in there and rebuild their country and also vote the way we want them too come any UN stuff we need passed.

    This is all fairly easy information to find out if you do some heavy reading. Nothing they do is necessarily illegal or hidden. No conspiracy theories needed.

    It’s highly imoral and wrong. There is a lot of deception going on, but its not illegal.

  252. Twocents Says:

    The fact that The Federal Reserve was created in 1913 by fat-cat bankers and since then dollar has lost 98% of its value is not a “conspiracy theory”.
    The fact that the Federal Reserve has never been audited and that you nor anyone else has a clue about what they do should be enough to cause alarm in all but the brain dead.

  253. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Jake Locker, rocket-armed, uber-athlete, sadly can’t make it into Mistic’s wave of the future, as he has sold too many seats to Jerrod Johnson, Troy Smith, Jason Campbell and EJ Manuel.

  254. KoolKell Says:

    Raider Riff Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 5:05 pm
    KoolKell Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 4:57 pm

    This great Country, and the Middle-Class was built by liberal Keynesian Economics. Not Conservative Trickle-down.

    —————————–

    Both systems can be cooked to show whatever the chef wants them to show.
    —————————–
    Your very first paragraph is not true.
    The New Deal, National Highway System, The GI Bill. College Loan Programs, National Research Laboratories, all Govt spending programs to help move American people in the middle-class, Developing the finest Universities in the World, after WWII.

    History doesn’t allow Trickle down economics can be “cooked” out of it’s history.

  255. Raider Riff Says:

    Bunk Moorland Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 5:05 pm———————————————————————————-

    you ever read “confessions of an economic hitman” that book is about everything in your post.

    ————————–

    Yes Ive read it.

    And Ive also done a ton of reading to check its credibility. Because while that book offers his first hand account of things, it doesnt really offer up any proof of anything. It reads more like a story than a report.

    So I went on a fact checking mission and found the book to be spot on.

    KK, I highly recommend you read that book. You’d enjoy it and while it wont outright change your stance on anything, it would certainly enlighten you.

  256. UCLA Raiders Says:

    realtruraider Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 5:08 pm

    UCLA

    Is he really any good? He was an UDFA and I haven’t heard much about him. Is he a bigger back? Sorry I guess I can just use the google machine
    ________________________________

    Here’s his highlights whe he torched Stanford in 2007: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kufafbCxdcI

    He’s not a burner but very tough and dependable which is exactly what Bush was for us last year.

  257. DutchRaider77 Says:

    @Just Fire Baby
    You following the GB v. Cin game? I think Mistic might like A. Rogers.

  258. bunk moorland Says:

    Raider Riff Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 5:09 pm
    KoolKell Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 5:03 pm
    Companies like Haliburton and the other contracting firms dont typically get paid via tax revenue.
    ———————-
    Oh, they weren’t serving American GI’s in Iraq? the Iraqi’s paid for that? oh. I’m so stupid.

    ——————————-

    Yes the were serving the GI’s. But it isnt the American taxpayer that will pay the bill.

    Iraq will be in debt to the international banking funds (which we indirectly control) for a very long time. They will pay the IMF’s all back with their petrodollars and tax free contracts to let us go in there and rebuild their country and also vote the way we want them too come any UN stuff we need passed.

    This is all fairly easy information to find out if you do some heavy reading. Nothing they do is necessarily illegal or hidden. No conspiracy theories needed.

    It’s highly imoral and wrong. There is a lot of deception going on, but its not illegal.———————————————————————-

    can you point me in the right direction. what book would u recomend?

  259. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    KLAS HEAD IS EXPLODING! TOO MUCH DOOM AND GLOOM. I JUST WANT TO GET HIGH, GET LAID, AND WATCH RAIDER FOOTBALL!

  260. blackandsilverside Says:

    All we have to do to get the economy “moving again” is have the President, under his plenary power Art.II of the U.S. Constitution, issue China and executive order that for every U.S. dollar which goes out to China, the U.S. must have one come in from China. Under Art.III Congress has the right to regulate foreign commerce, supporting the President.

    Our relief valve, should be Mexico, which has plenty of cheap labor, that would manufacture the product while workers in the U.S. would assemble it. With a multitude of jobs created, Mexicans would be less inclined to jump the border, thus eliminating 2 issues with a single stroke, our trade deficit with China, and illegal immigration.

    NAFTA was supposed to work that way but the politicians were bought off under GW Bush and China prevailed.

    It would absolutely work since China needs the U.S. 300B times per month more than we need them. Factoring in the current trade deficit, $3.6T U.S. is going out to China every year, and $36T over the past decade, and after factoring in currency equivalence, it adds up to over $300T.

    In 10 more years China will have us, and there will be nothing left.

  261. fingers Says:

    I hope that little charger fan kid has another tantrum late Sept 10th… Remember that little brat?..Screaming ” I hate the Raiders”.. That was after that first game….
    Anyway.. F that little choker brat …..

  262. Raider Riff Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 5:14 pm
    Raider Riff Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 5:05 pm
    KoolKell Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 4:57 pm

    This great Country, and the Middle-Class was built by liberal Keynesian Economics. Not Conservative Trickle-down.

    —————————–

    Both systems can be cooked to show whatever the chef wants them to show.
    —————————–
    Your very first paragraph is not true.
    The New Deal, National Highway System, The GI Bill. College Loan Programs, National Research Laboratories, all Govt spending programs to help move American people in the middle-class, Developing the finest Universities in the World, after WWII.

    History doesn’t allow Trickle down economics can be “cooked” out of it’s history.

    —————————–

    And just who do you think footed the bill for all those programs? C’mon man, youre almost there. Connect the dots.

  263. bunk moorland Says:

    Riff

    in that book, the company name is Main? its out of boston just like mitt’s company named bain

  264. KoolKell Says:

    Raider Riff Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 5:09 pm

    Yes the were serving the GI’s. But it isnt the American taxpayer that will pay the bill.

    Iraq will be in debt to the international banking funds (which we indirectly control) for a very long time. They will pay the IMF’s all back with their petrodollars and tax free contracts to let us go in there and rebuild their country and also vote the way we want them too come any UN stuff we need passed.
    ———————–
    Gee, I wonder how GW Bush ran up all that deficit. I thought it was the War……my bad. Lol.

  265. Raider Riff Says:

    Bunk Moorland Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 5:16 pm
    Raider Riff Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 5:09 pm
    KoolKell Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 5:03 pm
    Companies like Haliburton and the other contracting firms dont typically get paid via tax revenue.
    ———————-
    Oh, they weren’t serving American GI’s in Iraq? the Iraqi’s paid for that? oh. I’m so stupid.

    ——————————-

    Yes the were serving the GI’s. But it isnt the American taxpayer that will pay the bill.

    Iraq will be in debt to the international banking funds (which we indirectly control) for a very long time. They will pay the IMF’s all back with their petrodollars and tax free contracts to let us go in there and rebuild their country and also vote the way we want them too come any UN stuff we need passed.

    This is all fairly easy information to find out if you do some heavy reading. Nothing they do is necessarily illegal or hidden. No conspiracy theories needed.

    It’s highly imoral and wrong. There is a lot of deception going on, but its not illegal.———————————————————————-

    can you point me in the right direction. what book would u recomend?

    ——————————————

    Youre already headed in the right direction my friend. Just keep reading. Anything and everything.

    I suggest learning Spanish or Arabic and then reading their history books.

  266. Just Fire Baby Says:

    The Baine Capital CEO is a major liberal and O’bummer campaigner. Ran for the Democratic seat left by Kennedy.

    He also owns part of the Celtics.

  267. KoolKell Says:

    And just who do you think footed the bill for all those programs? C’mon man, youre almost there. Connect the dots.
    ————————
    The Tax-payers?

  268. Raider Riff Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 5:22 pm
    And just who do you think footed the bill for all those programs? C’mon man, youre almost there. Connect the dots.
    ————————
    The Tax-payers?

    —————-

    In the era of those programs you listed, we made a mint off of Europe.

    If its the tax payers paying for their own programs, its basically a snake eating its own tail. The economics dont work.

    C’mon, youre smart enough to understand this. The extra resources and revenue has to come from somewhere. Our conquests and profits from Indonesia, South America, the Middle East and parts of Asia arent a secret.

    Youre giving our middle class way too much credit if you think that our country was built on the new deal.

    If you want to know how we got to be so great, point the finger at Manifest Destiny.

  269. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Damn that dude’s shin looked like a question mark!!!!

  270. KoolKell Says:

    The main thing neo-conservatives of today don’t understand about economics is that, CEO’s, Money Managers, the 1%, don’t create jobs. Customers do.

  271. Raider Riff Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 5:22 pm
    The Baine Capital CEO is a major liberal and O’bummer campaigner. Ran for the Democratic seat left by Kennedy.

    He also owns part of the Celtics.

    ———————————

    Boom. If that is indeed true, then thanks for posting.

    Not all foreign contractors/consultant firms are owned by the conservatives. Everyone has their hand in the pot.

  272. DutchRaider77 Says:

    @Raider Riff
    Are you saying we made money off the Marhsall plan and reconstruction in Europe?

  273. fingers Says:

    Politics?… I think I saw Ann Coulter eat a fly today…. Picked it right outta the air… Didn’t even chew it… Just gulped and it was gone….

  274. Missus Beeecham Says:

    HOLLA YAWL

    just wanted to let yawl know after 15 minutes of high pressure extreme gruntin, i just rolled a monster size duece that could shatter any records out there. gonna put it on display for yawl to marvel at.

    DROPPIN AN EYE POPPIN WINNER MONSTER DUECE HOLLA

  275. blackandsilverside Says:

    DutchRaider77 Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 5:28 pm

    @Raider Riff
    Are you saying we made money off the Marhsall plan and reconstruction in Europe?
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Dutch, we made so much money off the Marshall Plan, reconstruction, and lend lease, we couldn’t even count it.

    By the end of WWII the U.S. held all known gold reserves which existed, as security.

    If you don’t believe me google it.

  276. Just Fire Baby Says:

    If that is indeed true

    **********************

    LOL…..what do you think I made it up?

    Stephen Pagluica, good dude, always goes on CNBC before the open.

    I believe he is 2nd in command with Bain, behind Berkenstein, who helped with the initial funding for Al Gore’s “Commonsense Ten” SuperPAC.

  277. Raider Riff Says:

    DutchRaider77 Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 5:28 pm
    @Raider Riff
    Are you saying we made money off the Marhsall plan and reconstruction in Europe?

    ——————–

    Of course. Why do you think there were some countries that didnt want to partake?

    You really think that our war with the Soviet Union was over ideologies? They didnt like the terms of the loan. They saw what our true capitalistic intentions were. Communism had very little to do with any of the countries that resisted our influence in the Cold War era.

    The Marshall Plan broke down major trade barriers and allowed us to get our feet deeply entrenched in Europe’s economy.

  278. KoolKell Says:

    Dutch, we made so much money off the Marshall Plan, reconstruction, and lend lease, we couldn’t even count it.

    By the end of WWII the U.S. held all known gold reserves which existed, as security.

    If you don’t believe me google it.
    ———————-
    Huh?

  279. Raider Riff Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 5:35 pm
    If that is indeed true

    **********************

    LOL…..what do you think I made it up?

    Stephen Pagluica, good dude, always goes on CNBC before the open.

    I believe he is 2nd in command with Bain, behind Berkenstein, who helped with the initial funding for Al Gore’s “Commonsense Ten” SuperPAC.

    ——————

    I didnt think you made it up. I just hadnt checked the info for myself.

    Im glad you posted. It helps proves my point that this isnt a red or blue thing.

  280. blackandsilverside Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 5:28 pm

    The main thing neo-conservatives of today don’t understand about economics is that, CEO’s, Money Managers, the 1%, don’t create jobs. Customers do.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Wrong KK. All the money-people did create millions of jobs – in China. Look a Apple: Steve Jobs should have been pilloried before he died, as a central architect in destroying the US middle class, outsourcing jobs to China. There is an estimated 11m employees in China doing Apple’s biding through huge Taiwanese Corps.

    To me Jobs was an idiot who wasted his life creating clever media, which is dumbing down our youth.

    The reason most computers are so unstable is because of the cheap crap manufactured in southeast Asia, which has a shelf live in a computer of 1 to 2 years.

  281. KoolKell Says:

    You really think that our war with the Soviet Union was over ideologies? They didnt like the terms of the loan. They saw what our true capitalistic intentions were. Communism had very little to do with any of the countries that resisted our influence in the Cold War era.
    ———————–
    What? Lmao.

  282. Just Fire Baby Says:

    That’s the funny thing about this faux Bain outrage, it is run by a bunch of limousine liberals, superPAC contributors, not to their old buddy Mitt, but to “commonsenseten” and that ilk.

  283. KoolKell Says:

    The reason most computers are so unstable is because of the cheap crap manufactured in southeast Asia, which has a shelf live in a computer of 1 to 2 years.
    ————————-
    Really, nothing to do with software? Hmm

  284. TxRaider210 Says:

    Kell, did you google who Denzell supports yet?

  285. Raider Riff Says:

    KK, are you just going to go the route of the troll now?

    Youre out of ammo so youre resorting to “huhs” and “Lmao’s”

    Seriously dude, go read. Study up. It should be of no coincidence to you that those people whom have:

    a) traveled extensively
    b) read extensively
    c) and dont have an agenda or arent looking to make money off of their stance

    All seem to see eye to eye on this.

    The ones who disagree are the ignorant fools that typically either voted for the president or against him simply because of his skin color. Those types cannot see the forest from the trees.

    Go get educated so you can get a better perspective of things. Public libraries have all the info you need.

  286. Raider Riff Says:

    Alright boys, Im out for the night.

    Im tired. Its 3am here. And I got a angry girlfriend. Apparently cooking dinner for your chic isnt enough, you gotta have sex with her also. Thankfully she’s already passed out.

    It’s been fun.

  287. TxRaider210 Says:

    Later Riff, good posts man.

  288. KoolKell Says:

    RR

    It’s all I can say to such wild schit. Lol. Can you provide any links to substantiate those claims that the East vs West Cold War was over a loan agreement and such…..or that the US held all gold reserves after WWII?

  289. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Denzel is a well-known Republican, who has given boatloads of money to the National Black Republican Association, but who couldn’t help but vote for the black guy.

  290. KoolKell Says:

    Raider Riff Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 5:45 pm

    Alright boys, Im out for the night.

    Im tired. Its 3am here
    —————————
    Oh, are you from Sweden too? ;-)

  291. MistaBrown Says:

    Kid Dynomite (JJ) from Good Times is also not a Barry Hussein supporter.
    _______

    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 5:43 pm

    Kell, did you google who Denzell supports yet?

  292. Marks hair Says:

    Benson looks good. Beeeww

  293. KoolKell Says:

    Well boyz, it’s been fun. Going to Lopez Isle tomorrow in the San Juans……I’ll have to find the game online somewhere.

  294. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I heard JJ on O’Reilly.

    Not a fan of BO, I believe he said he talks to blacks like they are 12 years old.

  295. MistaBrown Says:

    I’m sure buyers remorse set in about 2.5 years ago.
    ______

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 5:49 pm

    Denzel is a well-known Republican, who has given boatloads of money to the National Black Republican Association, but who couldn’t help but vote for the black guy.

  296. blackandsilverside Says:

    KK, I bought a Dell PC for $1000 a few yrs ago. I added a lot of higher grade components. After 18 months the HD blew so I went to Fryes and bought a new one. That one lasted a year, was a western digital made in thailand.

    I bought still another one, didn’t want western digital but Fryes told me because of the flood in Thailand that was all they had.

    The 3rd HD I bought blew in 6 weeks, and Fryes said they wouldn’t take it back; because of their policy, I would have to deal directly with WD.

    I told them that the Uniform Commercial Code is federal law governing the sales of good and that as such every item sold by a merchant to another merchant or consumer comes with an implied warranty of merchantability, under the UCC, so that all goods must be merchantable.

    I told Fryes, and correctly so, that the UCC preempts all manufacturers, wholesalers, or retailers warranty to the consumer, and if they didn’t give me a new HD I would sue.

    I further told Fryes that under the UCC, once a defective product is introduced into the stream of commerce, the consumer has the right to enforce UCC requirements on manufacturer, wholesaler, or retailer, store “policy” be damned.

    Fryes gave me a new HD.

    I don’t expect this HD to last long. The others were definitely defective, made in Thailand.

    Maybe software makes a computer unstable, but I feel hardward is mainly to blame.

  297. MistaBrown Says:

    KK Chick Fil A, hurry back.

    Just kidding…

  298. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    Entering the pre-season, what I looked forward to most, was getting an opportunity to watch TP play. We knew going in, that how TP performed would likely have little impact on the prospects for the 2012 season. The long term ramifications are another story entirely.

    So what, if anything, have we gleamed so far about TP’s viability as the Raid’s future at QB ?

    What I’ve learned is this:

    TP’s mobility and athleticism is off the charts good.

    TP appears to have his head on straight. I am confident will be able to learn his progressions, fine tune his footwork, and that he will put in the work requisite to success at the NFL level.

    His arm strength is not quite what I thought it was, but it is more than sufficient.

    Ultimately, it is accuracy as a passer that will determine TP’s fate as an NFL QB.

    My first impression is that TP will come up short in this most crucial area.

    But I haven’t written him off yet. We simply don’t have the body of evidence to do so.

    We saw quite a few check downs and dump offs against Dallas, but those aren’t going to tell us what we need to know.

    There was one pretty decent toss for the 3rd and long conversion against Dallas. Not too bad.

    Against Zona, there was only one throw germaine to this conversation. The go route to Criner in the right side of the EZ.

    TP drops and sets nicely. He recognizes single coverage. Pulls the trigger a little too late. Probably puts too much air under the ball. Ball placement or accuracy is not good. Criner does not have good separation. The best place to chuck it is towards the right corner, where Criner has the best shot at making the grab. Instead the toss is slightly more towards the middle of the field.

    Besides that one play, we don’t really have anything else to take from the AZ game that helps in evaluating TP’s accuracy.

    Will be watching closely to see if TP gets a chance to make some meaningful throws against Detroit.

  299. Silverandblack666 Says:

    http://sports.bovada.lv/sports-betting/political-props.jsp

    Stop it JFB these are Vegas odds dude deal with it.

    Vegas does not lose money its a fact.

  300. Silverandblack666 Says:

    If you bet $100 that the current president will win in November and he does win you would win $46.51

    If you bet $100 that Mitt will win in November and he does win you would win $175

    ONE LAST TIME JFB there is such thing as Vegas odds on a presidential race just not on Sash quash!

  301. Marks hair Says:

    Cp3 should play 3qtrs.. but tp may get the 4th qtr with the 2s.

  302. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Bovada?? LOL, that is not a Vegas casino, but a Canadian betting site.

    I am not saying Vegas WOULDN’T have him as a favorite, I am sure they would.

    I am just saying, you can’t walk into ANY NEVADA casino, and bet on the election.

    This is not even debatable.

  303. Just Fire Baby Says:

    ONE LAST TIME JFB there is such thing as Vegas odds on a presidential race just not on Sash quash!

    ***************************

    What are “Vegas odds” to you?

    To me, that means a Vegas casino is setting odds, in Las Vegas.

    That is not happening. You have online gaming sites that call themselves “Las Vegas style gaming”, but it is not MGM, Wynn, Staions, Las Vegas Sands or Ceasers.

  304. Silverandblack666 Says:

    I don’t like the current President because of how he is allowing the FEDS to bust up California medicinal marijuana dispensaries (Is one reason).

    Wall Street is not a fan of his policies but Wall Street loves money more and Wall Street has not seen this kind of growth since 1952.

    I have links if you are interested in reading them.

  305. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “I am just saying, you can’t walk into ANY NEVADA casino, and bet on the election.

    This is not even debatable.”

    Yes you can!

    :What are “Vegas odds” to you?

    To me, that means a Vegas casino is setting odds, in Las Vegas.”

    There are a bunch of highly educated math guru’s that crunch these number to create odds so that you and I can bet on everything form the Olympics to the election.

    You can get these same odds in Prague, The UK, Vegas and anywhere else they allow gambling and everywhere they will be the same.

    How can you not know this?

  306. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    I’m so fking sick of the ‘USA exploits and terrorizes the third world’ bullspit, that the America bashers just can’t seem to stop babbling about. It’s like a mantra burned into their peabrains that they just can’t stop chanting.

    No, the USA isn’t perfect, but I’ll stake America’s record of benevolence, charity and fighting for what’s right against anyone’s.

    I’m proud to be an American.

    USA is the greatest country on earth.

    Don’t you cornholes forget it.

  307. Marks hair Says:

    Wimbley is destroying the cards.. 3tacs 2sacks several hurries &hits..

  308. Plunketthead Says:

    Vegas bookies would bet on everything if it was legal.
    Many years ago the Oscars were bigger then they are today and “vegas” would list the odds but there was no betting

    Nevada Gaming Commision makes and enforces the rules.

  309. Breaking_Black Says:

    Wimbley not givin the cardinals a chance to practice any of their plays.

    Oh, uhh…The government is um, dumb!

  310. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I am not saying there isn’t smart people making quality odds offshores.

    They just have NOTHING TO DO WITH LAS VEGAS.

    Again, you cannot bet on the election in the state of Nevada. There is no gray area.

    I will make a deal with you, you go down to the city of Las Vegas, and produce me a betting slip from a LAS VEGAS SPORTSBOOK on the election, and I will gladly reimburse you for the entire trip, nuddies and all.

  311. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “Cp3 should play 3qtrs.. but tp may get the 4th qtr with the 2s.”

    Yes back to football…Palmer should play 3 full quarters and McFadden should be pulled after the 1st quarter.

  312. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Wimbley feasting on a backup LT, fresh off the practice squad.

    Not suprised at all.

  313. Plunketthead Says:

    Usually hollywood would pick a vegas bookie to interview and he would lay “odds”, probaly with their guidance. But it was all for TV

  314. guest123 Says:

    Already seeing some potential RB’s to push Goodson off the roster. Bears cut Kahlil Bell today. He looked good last year subbing in for Forte when he went down.

    Reggie, get to work!

  315. realtruraider Says:

    Wimbley is killin the Cards

  316. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Why would I need to drive to Vegas when I can place a bet online at any number of sites?

    I think there is a misunderstanding here the odds are what they are no matter if you are in Vietnam or Los Angels or Las Vegas. Its just a common phrase “The Vegas Odds” its not meant to be taken literally.

    But sure I know I can drive to Vegas and place a bet on anything.

  317. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I have seen Academy/Grammy awards on the board, that you couldn’t bet on.

    Never even seen an “entertainment” line on a presedential election the two elections I was there, too confrontational of a topic.

    The El Cortez might post one, lol.

  318. realtruraider Says:

    312

    True, we have seen him do this before, lol. We did alright rushing the Passer against the Cards too, but not one guy stood out like Wimbley is right now

  319. guest123 Says:

    Baltimore Ravens WR Torrey Smith is on fire tonight against JAX, 8 catches 103 yds in the first half!

  320. Marks hair Says:

    Kolb looks scared

  321. Just Fire Baby Says:

    When you live in Vegas for your 1/3 of your life, you put a difference between Jay Kornagay picking lines and some other dude in Canada.

    Like I said, if “Vegas” (i.e Ceasers, MGM or Hilton) were to set a line, I am sure the Prez would be the favorite.

    But they aren’t allowed to do so.

  322. Marks hair Says:

    We need carter to replace wimbley.

  323. guest123 Says:

    Pres BO in a landslide this fall..no contest. Watch for it.

  324. Just Fire Baby Says:

    LOL….so one play after Dilfer goes on his soapbox standing up for Kolb and the TK comments, he throws a horrendous INT.

  325. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    JFB is correct. You can’t walk into a Vegas sportsbook and bet on the election.

    You can’t bet on who’s winning an Oscar or who’s going to win on American Idol, or who’s going to be kicked off the island last.

    You want to bet on that stuff ? Better try an off-shore book, cuz it ain’t happening in Nevada.

    As far as making a bet on the Prez election…I’d recommend loading up on Mitt right now. The +1.75 is mighty sweet. That figures to drop substantially as we get closer to vote day and things tighten up – as they almost invariably do when the economy is in the shtter.

    So you take Romney now at +1.75, and hedge it with a B.O. bet at shorter odds, later. Or, if you’re absolutely certain B.O. wins, just wait for a better price.

  326. RaiderDuck Says:

    Just watched Hard Knocks. Philbin’s going to be a hot mess as head coach. I loved when Tannehill came in for the “You’re our starting QB” meeting, and Philbin immediately started whining about the dude’s shoelaces.

    There’s managing, and then there’s micromanaging.

  327. Silverandblack666 Says:

    I really don’t care who wins both parties have screwed us over these last 80 years and put us in enormous amount of debt, allowed for bloated government and took away our civil liberties along the way.

    Lobbyists special interest groups killing the middle class. smh at both parties

  328. guest123 Says:

    I watched “Hard Knocks” too. That show is unwatchable. You learn nothing about football and the producers are trying to create drama out of nothing. It’s reality show hell.

  329. RaiderDuck Says:

    Also, Marc Miriani of the Titans is having a very bad night.

    http://t.co/KKq5h1uu

  330. Just Fire Baby Says:

    So you take Romney now at +1.75, and hedge it with a B.O. bet at shorter odds, later.

    ***************************

    My man!!!

  331. realtruraider Says:

    Marks hair Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 6:25 pm
    Kolb looks scared

    ———————————————–

    Don’t tell Dilfer that, earlier he said he couldn’t say what he wanted to about Kelly because he was on TV, more like because he is scared too, lol

  332. Silverandblack666 Says:

    I said “Vegas Odds” as a term that is used often to describe such things. I am sure I could find someone in Vegas to give me odds on the election whether or not its completely legal might be in question.

    Like I said in my earlier post why go to Vegas when you can bet online.

  333. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Dilfer is cracking me up right now.

    Did he just tout the Cards D because they only gave up 4 passing TD’s in their division.

    So in 6 games against Alex Smith, Tavaris Jackson, Sam Bradford and Charlie Whitehurst, they gave up 4 TD’s?

    That actually kind of sucks!!!

  334. RaiderDuck Says:

    Guest123 Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 6:29 pm
    I watched “Hard Knocks” too. That show is unwatchable. You learn nothing about football and the producers are trying to create drama out of nothing. It’s reality show hell.

    ============================================

    Things We Learned From This Week’s “Hard Knocks”:

    – Joe Philbin redefines “an@l.”

    – John Jerry was terrible, but got better.

    – Jeff Long has a really nice house and a wife about 1/3 his total size.

    – That Hogan guy is their version of Streater.

    – Egnew could well be available if Reggie wants him.

  335. KoolKell Says:

    The easiest thing for a Republican partisan to say, especially after the World Trade Centers come down, and after a iligetimate war they started, is to say both parties are the same.

    Just like this blog, people will make up all kinds of excuses to avoid being wrong about their ideas.

  336. Just Fire Baby Says:

    All right, well I am placing “Vegas Odds” on you screwing up your FF draft this weekend, lol.

  337. guest123 Says:

    I SMH at both parties too.

    Anyone who signs up to be a senator/congressman should absolve their material wealth and donate it to the national debt. Then agree to a modest executive salary, and most important be required to abide by the same rules and benefits that the rest of us have to deal with. No lifetime pension and lifetime free healthcare. These guys some of them are worth over $100 million. It’s sick. What is there motivation to look out for the common man squeezing his family’s budget trying to somehow provide for their needs.

    Congress is so out of touch.

  338. realtruraider Says:

    guest123 Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 6:29 pm
    I watched “Hard Knocks” too. That show is unwatchable. You learn nothing about football and the producers are trying to create drama out of nothing. It’s reality show hell.

    ——————————————————-

    The first couple were good because of Ocho. Now I think they should just focus more on the Cheerleaders.

  339. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “So in 6 games against Alex Smith, Tavaris Jackson, Sam Bradford and Charlie Whitehurst, they gave up 4 TD’s?

    That actually kind of sucks!!!”

    So true!

  340. guest123 Says:

    – Egnew could well be available if Reggie wants him.

    *******

    He may just need to make that call as absurd as that sounds.

  341. Breaking_Black Says:

    ust Fire Baby Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 6:27 pm

    LOL….so one play after Dilfer goes on his soapbox standing up for Kolb and the TK comments, he throws a horrendous INT.

    *********

    That was pretty funny!

  342. Just Fire Baby Says:

    JFK and FDR came from the biggest, wealthiest families in the country, and both are deemed the top prez’s of our lifetime.

    More super-rich guys for president!!!

  343. KoolKell Says:

    A lot of people say they’re independent, studies show most of them are lying.

  344. KoolKell Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 6:36 pm

    JFK and FDR came from the biggest, wealthiest families in the country, and both are deemed the top prez’s of our lifetime.

    More super-rich guys for president!!!
    ————————–
    Super-Rich liberals, who sided with the poor & middle-class. FDR the founder of the American middle class

  345. guest123 Says:

    FDR and JFK was in “our” lifetime? Just how old are u?

  346. RaiderDuck Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 6:37 pm
    A lot of people say they’re independent, studies show most of them are lying.

    ===========================================

    People also claim to want real change and not politics as usual.

    The Dems and GOP represent politics as usual, which everyone says they hate. The third parties represent real change, which everyone says they want.

    Guess which two parties get 99% of the vote in almost every election?

  347. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Well, lifetime was a stretch.

    How about post-Industrial Age?

  348. Just Fire Baby Says:

    That ZBS-fueled Ravens offense looks pretty sharp.

  349. guest123 Says:

    It’s not about ZBS. They have the linemen to do it. Coop is slow off the block on the left side and not having Wix is hurting the push up front in short yardage as well. It’s the lack of horses and not the system.

  350. Breaking_Black Says:

    Look, eventually your worthless life is gonna end, everything will go blank and none of this will matter. So why not just enjoy jerkin off or banging your ugly wife and watching football with your stupid kids instead of talkin about all this nonsense as a way to express your prejudices.

    DMac better not get hurt on Saturday.

  351. guest123 Says:

    We can’t rely on Mike Goodson as DMC’s primary backup.

    Taiwan Jones is an injury waiting to happen. I hope that Reggie signs a decent FA RB soon. A TE would be nice too.

  352. Just Fire Baby Says:

    It’s not about ZBS.

    ****************************

    Thank you, great 110%.

    So why does everyone in here, complain about the ZBS?

  353. guest123 Says:

    That does sound like a bleak existence. Ouch!!

    I’m a lucky man. A lot to be thankful for.

  354. KoolKell Says:

    Maybe the ZBS can score a TD for us before preseason is over?

  355. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “People also claim to want real change and not politics as usual.

    The Dems and GOP represent politics as usual, which everyone says they hate. The third parties represent real change, which everyone says they want.

    Guess which two parties get 99% of the vote in almost every election?”

    You see Duck gets it….you vote for a guy no matter what party, he makes promises (maybe his intentions are good) But he gets into Washington and government is so big and screwed up he cant do anything about it and cant keep his campaign promise. Or they were just lying to us to get into office in the first place.

    Its the same BS from both parties they point fingers play the blame game. The Democrats create a new policy then the Republicans kill it or visa versa nothing gets accomplished except more debt and more government oversight.

  356. Barry_McKockiner Says:

    What’s up nation!!!

  357. guest123 Says:

    So why does everyone in here, complain about the ZBS?

    ^^^^^

    not I

    from jump street, I was hoping Bergstrom would beat out Savage and send him to an early retirement. But until that happens and Wiz II comes back healthy, the line push will suffer. Calling out the ZBS is misdiagnosis of the situation.

  358. DKnight007 Says:

    Twocents Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 5:13 pm

    The fact that The Federal Reserve was created in 1913 by fat-cat bankers and since then dollar has lost 98% of its value is not a “conspiracy theory”.
    The fact that the Federal Reserve has never been audited and that you nor anyone else has a clue about what they do should be enough to cause alarm in all but the brain dead.

    ^^^^^^^^
    Yep!

  359. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Maybe the ZBS can score a TD for us before preseason is over?

    *************************

    So it’s just the ZBS on the line for the offense? No issues with the turnovers and fumbles?

  360. realtruraider Says:

    That ZBS-fueled Ravens offense looks pretty sharp.
    ——————————————————

    Did they punch it in from the one yardline using ZBS?

  361. DKnight007 Says:

    Regarding the ill advised and unecessary installation to use the ZBS as the primary blocking system….it just wasn’t necessary.

    Why fix what wasn’t broke from last year?

  362. DKnight007 Says:

    realtruraider Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 6:55 pm

    That ZBS-fueled Ravens offense looks pretty sharp.
    ——————————————————

    Did they punch it in from the one yardline using ZBS?

    ^^^^^^^^
    Doesn’t matter what the Ravens do…it matters what the Raiders do fellas.

  363. Just Fire Baby Says:

    The Fed is audited annually, just not by the people Ron Paul wants them to be by.

    Currently it is the BOG of 12 of the largest banks. In the future it will be a congressional appointee.

    Same ish to me.

    I can see everyone happy that we get an “audit”, and than we appoint Hank Paulson to do it, lol.

  364. DKnight007 Says:

    Harbaugh isn’t dumb enough to call ZBS runs from the goal line.

    It’s about using power, a pulling guard perhaps and or play action rollout or bootlegs or QB sneak.

  365. guest123 Says:

    It’s not rhe zbs guys. that’s misinformation. nothing could be further from the truth. it’s the personnel.

  366. KoolKell Says:

    AlDavis/Chuck D “fixed” Marshall’s defense that didn’t need fixin last year, too.

  367. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “Why fix what wasn’t broke from last year?”

    This is what I am saying we were 9th in offense last year with a missing McFadden for 8 games!

    Why screw with it?

  368. Just Fire Baby Says:

    We were 24th in the league in red zone efficiency last season.

    We were using Cooper Carlisle, Satele, and Reece at FB in a power-scheme? LMAO, no wonder we were in the bottom third of the NFL.

    Fire Hue!!!!!

  369. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    The easiest thing for a Republican partisan to say, especially after the World Trade Centers come down, and after a iligetimate war they started, is to say both parties are the same.
    ===============================================
    You want to whine about ‘illegitimate’ wars and associate them with Republicans ?

    OK. I’ll respond by asking you which Party should be associated with Viet Nam ?

    I’m not going to debate what constitutes an ‘illegitimate’ war. That’s pointless. I could go on and on about the necessity of smashing Islamo-fascism, but this isn’t the time or place for that.

    I won’t even debate the ‘who started it’ angle.

    All that concerns me once embroiled in conflict or war, is winning swiftly and decisively at minimum expense to OUR side. I do not wish to see any side suffer unnecessarily, but if I have to choose, I’d rather see a million of the enemy die than have one of our guys break a fingernail.

    But that’s just me.

    Now I must go eat my lavish buffet. They shoot you in Afghanistan for even THINKING about eating so well.

    G-D BLESS THE USA.

  370. guest123 Says:

    sure Hue was partly responsible for the offensive success from last yr. But he brought more bad than good and had to be ousted as his ego was getting in the way of starting over. Even if we take a step back on offense, it’s a step forward for the team.

    Not messing with what wasn’t broken was not an option. It had to be done. Like cutting off a limb with gangrene to survive.

  371. realtruraider Says:

    I have heard all this talk about being multiple on defense, why not the same on offense? Im not against the ZBS, but I would like to see a hybrid O-Line scheme. Like when we are on the one I want to see a jumbo package with straight power.

  372. Just Fire Baby Says:

    2010, we scored TD’s on 58% of our red zone drives.

    2011, 51%.

    Hue sucked.

  373. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Last seasons top 5 red zone offenses for TD %

    Saints, Packers, Pats, Panthers, Broncos

    So you either need a FB at QB, or to pass the ball to score in the red zone in today’s NFL.

  374. Just Fire Baby Says:

    2011 Raiders, Red zone TD scoring % at home, 42%

    3rd worst in the NFL.

  375. Twocents Says:

    If there is an entity that blesses certain people, I have to believe that it favors those that hold freedom and liberty (the hallmarks of civilization) above all else.
    The statists that use the threat of violence to control every aspect of life should rot in hell.

  376. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Gradkowski with another 100 QB rating performance (well 99.7).

  377. Just Fire Baby Says:

    So Dilfer tolds us on the Kolb TD drive before the half that we may be looking at the moment Kolb got it together and win the starting job.

    Then……he comes out of the tunnel and throws a pick 6 on the first play.

    This is getting comical with ‘ol Trent!!!!

  378. guest123 Says:

    Andrew Brandt‏@adbrandt

    WoW. RT @AP BREAKING: Lance Armstrong drops fight against USADA. Will be stripped of Tour de France titles and banned for life.

  379. guest123 Says:

    Lance: “There comes a point in every man’s life when he has to say, “Enough is enough.” For me, that time is now. Today I turn the page.

  380. guest123 Says:

    Hard to imagine all those sting of tour de france victories erased from the record. It’d be like somehow erasing all 6 of Jordan’s NBA titles.

  381. blackandsilverside Says:

    guest123 Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 7:19 pm

    Lance: “There comes a point in every man’s life when he has to say, “Enough is enough.” For me, that time is now. Today I turn the page.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Haven’t seen any breaking headlines…..

  382. guest123 Says:

    Go check ESPN.

  383. blackandsilverside Says:

    okay I will

  384. Missus Beeecham Says:

    HOLLA

    just processed another duece than knocked me over. holla had to roll it off me. yawl talk politics, i talk about my duece droppins. we cool.

    FO DRIZZLE MO DIZZLE

  385. guest123 Says:

    http://espn.go.com/olympics/cycling/story/_/id/8298135/lance-armstrong-fight-usada-charges-used-performance-enhancing-drugs-unprecedented-cycling-career

  386. blackandsilverside Says:

    yeah I saw it on ESPN.

  387. blackandsilverside Says:

    well what can ya do ?

  388. Just Win Baby Says:

    Guilty.

  389. blackandsilverside Says:

    it’s tough to win all those championships without some help

  390. realtruraider Says:

    Evil Mike Tomlin‏@EvilMikeTomlin

    Lance Armstrong says he doesn’t have the balls to fight the drug charges
    ——————————————————-

    Peyton’s Head‏@PeytonsHead

    If I find out Lance Armstrong still has 2 testicles I’m going to be devastated.
    ——————————————————

    I just checked twitter and these were the first ones I seen regarding Armstrong, lol

  391. guest123 Says:

    Lance Armstrong: “The bottom line is I played by the rules that were put in place

    This almost sounds like a Sandusky defense. Lance is delusional and life all went downhill since he got dumped by Sheryl Crow.

  392. MistaBrown Says:

    Fk’n imbecile.
    _____

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 6:11 pm

    I don’t like the current President because of how he is allowing the FEDS to bust up California medicinal marijuana dispensaries

  393. downsouthraider Says:

    Is this a football blog or political roundup….there other sites to vent or voice your views

  394. REALLIONAIREB Says:

    This Powell kid they have in Arizona is NFL Sunday ready now…

    NotNow

    ButRightNow!!!

  395. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Cut Condo for Al’s sake!

  396. Dhidee99 Says:

    I guess their not letting us talk football tonight

  397. guest123 Says:

    How do the A’s get by the rest of the season w/o Colon? Can they stay in the race?

    I’m hoping my Rays overtake the hated Yankees for the AL East crown.

  398. MistaBrown Says:

    As if Colon has got them where they are, pls
    ______

    Guest123 Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 7:45 pm

    How do the A’s get by the rest of the season w/o Colon? Can they stay in the race?

  399. guest123 Says:

    BREAKING: USADA to strip Lance Armstrong of 7 Tour de France titles, ban him from cycling for life.

    **********

    No more speculation: Titles gone!

  400. realtruraider Says:

    Damn, LiveStrong Armstrong

  401. Dhidee99 Says:

    My Favorite Raiders:

    1. Al Davis
    2. Greg Papa
    3.WR Tim Brown
    4.RB Harvey Williams
    5.DL Howie Long
    6.DB Erik Turner
    7.DB Lionel Washington
    8.ST Polish Cannon
    9.OL/Coach Art Shell (His first run as Coach)BTW he was Right about Jerry Porter.
    10.Fan Wayne Mabry aka. “The Violator” Hall of Famer

  402. Dhidee99 Says:

    Who cares about bicycles it’s football season!!!

  403. realtruraider Says:

    The Twitter world a buzz right now, there are alot of fake funny characters on there

  404. blackandsilverside Says:

    hmmmmm……well Armstrong’s case was never adjudicated in a court of law in the US, apparently, since res judicata doctrine would apply, both claim and issue preclusion.

    If Armstrong had been tried and found innocent in a civil suit the USADA could not bring charges against him.

    Surely, with his money he could hire an army of attorney’s and defeat the USADA. The case against Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens did work out too well for the government. The USADA has no civil or criminal jurisdiction against Armstrong.

  405. guest123 Says:

    G’damm…Berman and Dilfer are a snorefest. These clowns are going to be calling the Raiders first game against SD.

    SMH

    Pathetic talentless duo

  406. guest123 Says:

    or he could just throw his hands up in the air and say “eff it. I don’t care anymore. Do your worst to me bullies!”

  407. REALLIONAIREB Says:

    The commentary iz poo

    But I will give boomer a pass cuz its preseason

    Dilfer became a Qb guru over night but cldnt translate it to is game…

    GoFigure

  408. guest123 Says:

    In the court of public opinion, which if you think about it is all that matters (go ask Barry)…Armstrong is guilty as sin. No way to save face or claim some altruistic motivations such as his foundations. He’s a lot like Barry now.

  409. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Mistabrown you misquoted me.

    Why so angry? What did I do to you?

  410. Dhidee99 Says:

    WoW we Care more Tricycles than football

  411. guest123 Says:

    More than 4th qtr non Raider preseason football anyways

  412. RaiderDebo Says:

    Poor Andy Dalton. Living on borrowed time. Too bad for him measurables matter.

  413. RaiderDebo Says:

    guest123 Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 7:57 pm
    G’damm…Berman and Dilfer are a snorefest. These clowns are going to be calling the Raiders first game against SD.

    SMH

    Pathetic talentless duo
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Dilfer is just about as good a QB guru as anyone else. My favorites are Phil Simms and Merril Hoge though.

  414. Silverandblack666 Says:

    I have always liked Hodge even as a player.

  415. Silverandblack666 Says:

    misspelled his name…Hoge

  416. Raider O Says:

    Dhidee,

    What do you want to talk about? I noticed you have been trying to talk football/ Raiders all day.

  417. MistaBrown Says:

    mope & change

    “A group of Immigrations and Customs Enforcement agents filed a lawsuit against their own agency Thursday, arguing that the O b a m a administration is not letting them fully identify and deport illegal immigrants”

  418. RaiderDebo Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 8:14 pm
    I have always liked Hodge even as a player.

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Concussions killed the guy. Was a damn good player during the rare down Pitt years. Love listening to that guy talk football. Brains must not be too scrambled.

  419. Raider O Says:

    Debo,

    Who is a better QB prospect, Luck or RG3?

  420. ohioraider Says:

    Twocents Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 5:01 pm

    Keynesian economics has been discredited in so many ways that it is hard to believe that anyone could make such a statement.
    ——————————-
    Name the studies and post your citations.

  421. Dhidee99 Says:

    They need to find a way to put Rich and Chucky in the Booth together

  422. RaiderDebo Says:

    Raider O Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 8:20 pm
    Debo,

    Who is a better QB prospect, Luck or RG3?
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    This is very difficult to figure out right now. Luck is the real deal. He has been “the guy so long”, the superlatives about is intelligence and pro readiness became tiresome to me. But I saw the highlights of his 1st game and the whole Pitt game, and I see what they were all talking about now. He already looks like a veteran. But I also saw what Phil Simms was talking about when he said he didn’t see the rocket arm. There’s good velocity on some throws, but I don’t see that gun a lot of the top guys have. I like Griffin a lot. The guy can flat-out throw the rock and his running ability will cause nightmares for dudes in Shanny’s O. Lots of comparisons to Mike Vick, but I don’t see that level of athleticism and toughness. In college, you could affect his game with big hits (see K-State). I generally go for upside and measurables over pro readiness, but I think these guys are closer in the former than most would like to believe. Gun to my head, I go for Luck.

  423. Dhidee99 Says:

    I’m about to Start a Cheit storm TP is Better than Luck and RG3!!!!

  424. Raider O Says:

    Keynesian economics has been discredited in so many ways that it is hard to believe that anyone could make such a statement.
    ——————————-
    Name the studies and post your citations.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2012/07/12/ob a ma nomics-the-final-nail-in-the-discredited-keynesian-coffin/

  425. Raider O Says:

    Excellent post Debo. I agree with you, I prefer my QBs to have a gun.

  426. Jumbo Gumbo Trumboneralicious Says:

    First time caller. How y’all doin in here. Sure smells like a schiit fest in here at times. All that propaganda smells like schiit. Why can’t y’all just talk Raider football like the creators of this blog designed it for, instead of a damn hyena arena. Y’all talk politics, BFD. Take it to someone who gives a rats ass.

    Raider Football = Super Bowl Season. Book it.

  427. KoolKell Says:

    O that link doesn’t work

  428. MistaBrown Says:

    Last 4 years isn’t enough evidence?
    wow
    _____

    Ohioraider Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 8:21 pm

    Twocents Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 5:01 pm

    Keynesian economics has been discredited in so many ways that it is hard to believe that anyone could make such a statement.
    ——————————-
    Name the studies and post your citations.

  429. nyraider Says:

    Raider O Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 8:51 pm
    Excellent post Debo. I agree with you, I prefer my QBs to have a gun.
    ——————————————-
    Jamarcus Russell, Jeff George, Marc Wilson, Dan Pastorini give me Ken Stabler and Rich Gannon all day long versus a gunslinger

  430. KoolKell Says:

    Jumbo Gumbo Trumboneralicious Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 8:52 pm

    First time caller. How y’all doin in here.
    ——————-
    Under the stupid asszed Jumbo Gumbo handle you mean?

  431. purvisman Says:

    Maybe’cause he altered the prez’s name to get past mods?

  432. MistaBrown Says:

    Jay Shroeder left off the list.
    ______

    Nyraider Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 9:05 pm

    Jamarcus Russell, Jeff George, Marc Wilson, Dan Pastorini give me Ken Stabler and Rich Gannon all day long versus a gunslinger

  433. MistaBrown Says:

    You dumb Fk make an adjustment for the 0 b a m a
    _____

    KoolKell Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 9:04 pm

    O that link doesn’t work

  434. Missus Beeecham (Comment Awaiting Moderation) Says:

    HOLLA HOLLA

    yeah right bonerlicicous. me and holla eat together if you catch my drift. but a boner is anything but delicicous. fckng freak.

    MO DRIBBLE IN DA GRIBBLE

  435. Raider O Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 9:04 pm
    O that link doesn’t work
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    I had to adjust the link to post it. Not allowed to post the president’s name.

  436. KoolKell Says:

    Was the article an opinion piece?

  437. Raider O Says:

    Purvisman Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 9:07 pm
    Maybe’cause he altered the prez’s name to get past mods?
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Exactly.

  438. Troll Master Says:

    Raider O Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 9:13 pm
    Purvisman Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 9:07 pm
    Maybe’cause he altered the prez’s name to get past mods?
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Exactly.

    ====================================================

    Are the mods real people or just a computer that has a brain? And are there ’spies’ in here that look for abusers of words? And if there are mods, they must be very tollerant and patient people.

    http://www.trolls.com

  439. Raider O Says:

    KK,

    Remove the spaces in the president’s name, and it should work.
    Try to remember that I’m not a rep/ dem, and I don’t have an agenda. Just sharing an article about a topic we discussed today.

  440. KoolKell Says:

    Ok I read the first page. It’s a partisan piece. 0bamanomics was a dead giveaway.

  441. Raider O Says:

    Dhidee99 Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 8:42 pm
    I’m about to Start a Cheit storm TP is Better than Luck and RG3!!!!
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    I love my buckeyes, buy I have to disagree. lol
    TP is a better athlete, but RG3 and Luck are better QBs.

  442. RaiderDebo Says:

    Taylor Mays has been shooting his guns the last two weeks. Would hate to be on the other end of one of those shots.

  443. Raider O Says:

    Nyraider Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 9:05 pm
    Raider O Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 8:51 pm
    Excellent post Debo. I agree with you, I prefer my QBs to have a gun.
    ——————————————-
    Jamarcus Russell, Jeff George, Marc Wilson, Dan Pastorini give me Ken Stabler and Rich Gannon all day long versus a gunslinger
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    I wanted Jabustus (he ordered the fish dinner lol), and I still think he could have a been a great QB in this league, but the guy was more interested in sipping sizzurp.

  444. Raider O Says:

    RaiderDebo Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 9:30 pm
    Taylor Mays has been shooting his guns the last two weeks. Would hate to be on the other end of one of those shots.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Did he improve his coverage skills? Wasn’t that the reason SF released him?

  445. purvisman Says:

    Troll Master Says: Are the mods real people or just a computer that has a brain? And are there ’spies’ in here that look for abusers of words? And if there are mods, they must be very tollerant and patient people./////////////////////I imagine real people check in from time to time and adjust parameters at wordpress or where ever. As for spies, kind of but more likely to rat someone out via email to cork or becker to get someone banned for being a meanie. Bans rarely permanent and easy to get around. They are not tolerant or patient, they just don’t care what we talk about in here, with few exceptions. All this pure conjecture on my part.

  446. Dhidee99 Says:

    Anyway I love Raider football!!!

  447. RaiderDebo Says:

    Raider O Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 9:41 pm
    RaiderDebo Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 9:30 pm
    Taylor Mays has been shooting his guns the last two weeks. Would hate to be on the other end of one of those shots.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Did he improve his coverage skills? Wasn’t that the reason SF released him?

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Haven’t seen anything special. He’s starting though.

  448. Dhidee99 Says:

    I’ll talk football all by my self till they ban me!
    Palmer still scares me as our starter, I’ve always been the type of guy to rally for the leaders on the Raiders. To me Palmer is Jamarcuss all over again the difference is he works hard at his carft. The outcome will be the Same this guy sucks major ballz and most of you in here are in denial if you think Palmer is going to be a good QB for us!!!!

  449. Dhidee99 Says:

    I’m just going to run it down the rest of the night. The Raiders Really need to overhaul the Training staff also Why is it we have player suffer from the Same injuries every year where is the Education for our players, physical Conditioning. My job there is alot of running, jumping, climbing, and physical violent contact plus bullets and bombs!!!! ijs

  450. Raider O Says:

    KK & others,

    Why Americans hate economis (WSJ online) is another good/ simple article about that topic.

  451. JB Says:

    Watching the Packer-Bengals game on NFL network. Cedrick Benson o=is looking pretty good. Maybe we should have taken him when we had the chance. Goodson has a lot of shoe to fill.

  452. JB Says:

    Dhidee99 Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 9:53 pm

    I’ll talk football all by my self till they ban me!
    Palmer still scares me as our starter, I’ve always been the type of guy to rally for the leaders on the Raiders. To me Palmer is Jamarcuss all over again the difference is he works hard at his carft. The outcome will be the Same this guy sucks major ballz and most of you in here are in denial if you think Palmer is going to be a good QB for us!!!!
    ********************

    You are entitled to your opinion. Nowhere is it written that anyone has to agree with you. I’m not in denial. CP3 is the real deal and the best QB since Gannon. To compare him to JaLoser is ridiculous and destroys any credibility you may have had. Just my opinion.

  453. purvisman Says:

    Dam right JB

  454. Raider O Says:

    We should have resigned Thomas Howard.

  455. Seymour Bush Says:

    MistaBrown Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 5:52 pm

    Kid Dynomite (JJ) from Good Times is also not a Barry Hussein supporter.
    =======================================

    Whoah. If JJ from good Times is not into the current scene, maybe I should take my advanced degree in economics and torch it.

  456. JB Says:

    This Saturday game should be very interesting from a passing standpoint. I expect to see Ausberry @ TE, Streater & Criner @ WR. all three are second stringers on paper but after this game any or all could be elevated to starter if they have a good game and the normal 1’s are still injured. It is likely the both Moore & Ford will still be injured. DHB may still be rehabbing too. The same will likely hold true for Myers & Gorden. Given those injuries, we may surprised to see how really good our 2’s & 3’s receivers are. CP3 may just end up having a field day.

  457. Seymour Bush Says:

    ohioraider Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 8:21 pm

    Twocents Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 5:01 pm

    Keynesian economics has been discredited in so many ways that it is hard to believe that anyone could make such a statement.
    ——————————-
    Name the studies and post your citations.
    ===========================================

    Until 2007 when JM Keynes theories were reinstated. Funny that.

  458. Seymour Bush Says:

    JB Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 10:08 pm

    Dhidee99 Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 9:53 pm

    I’ll talk football all by my self till they ban me!
    Palmer still scares me as our starter, I’ve always been the type of guy to rally for the leaders on the Raiders. To me Palmer is Jamarcuss all over again the difference is he works hard at his carft. The outcome will be the Same this guy sucks major ballz and most of you in here are in denial if you think Palmer is going to be a good QB for us!!!!
    ********************

    You are entitled to your opinion. Nowhere is it written that anyone has to agree with you. I’m not in denial. CP3 is the real deal and the best QB since Gannon. To compare him to JaLoser is ridiculous and destroys any credibility you may have had. Just my opinion.
    ===============================================

    Thank you JB. Both are all around number ones. One has led the NFL in Touchdowns and completions percentage. One is scrounging the back alleys of Mobile for some scag. Last season, In a game that the team had to win, one threw for over 80% completions 2 TD’s and over 10 yards per attempt. Last year, One got ripped off trying to score some more scag. One is worth tens of millions. One is about to be broke. Hard to equate the two.

  459. Dhidee99 Says:

    JB how do you explain Palmers 38% passer rating in the preseason is not like Jamarcus numbers. Or the Fact the Starting offense has yet to score to me it seems like the Raiders rewinded the Tape took out Jayruss put in Palmer for the Same results! Same coaches, Same Stats, Same ole Raiders! I’ll be the frist to eat crow if I’m wrong but you feeeeeeel it too

  460. Dhidee99 Says:

    We got ripped off with the Palmer deal

  461. Seymour Bush Says:

    Dhidee99 Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 10:52 pm

    JB how do you explain Palmers 38% passer rating in the preseason
    =========================================

    I can explain that two ways. lst, it’s the preseason. No one cares. 2ndly, if you add two drops by Ford, a pass that goes right thru DHB’s hands in the endzone, and another that actually was ruled a TD and then overturned, Palmer would have a rating of 10000. That’s how.

  462. Missus Beeecham (Abusive Comment Removed) Says:
  463. Missus Beeecham (Abusive Comment Removed) Says:
  464. Missus Beeecham (Abusive Comment Removed) Says:
  465. Dhidee99 Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 11:02 pm
    Dhidee99 Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 10:52 pm

    JB how do you explain Palmers 38% passer rating in the preseason
    =========================================

    I can explain that two ways. lst, it’s the preseason. No one cares. 2ndly, if you add two drops by Ford, a pass that goes right thru DHB’s hands in the endzone, and another that actually was ruled a TD and then overturned, Palmer would have a rating of 10000. That’s how.
    ——————————————
    Dont forget to factor in his interceptions but those were not his fault either right?

  466. Missus Beeecham (Abusive Comment Removed) Says:
  467. Missus Beeecham (Abusive Comment Removed) Says:
  468. Missus Beeecham (Abusive Comment Removed) Says:
  469. Dhidee99 Says:

    Seymour, you know Palmer sucks admit it maybe not as bad as Jabust but he sucks bad all over man!

  470. Dhidee99 Says:

    I would trade dmac right now if I was the Raiders. To a team that looks like they might get to pick early in the draft. Cut Palmer at the end of the season and get rid of Richard Seymour too

  471. Missus Beeecham Says:

    HOLLA

    holla sure can drop a deuce. dude was like a anaconda or some damn thing. made me proud. rollin down the river. where is that freak fck boneralicous at anyway. I’d like to sell him a deuce i rolled a couple of months ago.

    JUST KEEPIN IT REALS YAWL

  472. Dhidee99 Says:

    21. Carson Palmer, Oakland Raiders

    Analysis: Palmer got so sick of the Bengals that he left football for part of last season. The trade to the Raiders gives him a chance to show whether he still has his elite skills, but he has to cut down on interceptions. Give Palmer man coverage, and he’ll gamble deep.

    Arrow is pointing: flat

    Rated #21 out of 32 staters in the league!!

  473. Dhidee99 Says:

    Missus Beeecham is really Mark Davis the hair cut gave it away dude!!

  474. purvisman Says:

    Dhidee99 must be rod money(kicked off the cbs blog)terrell randall(kicked off Silver and Black Pride) and somebody else that I missed(kicked off Silver and Black Pride later the same day). We’ll just have to ignore him here. Oh, well.

  475. purvisman Says:

    Just over a week ago. When did he pop up here?

  476. DJ Johnny Says:

    Off topic but may i ask you guys your opinion the best lap top to get? That won’t break the bank? I’ve alsways had good luck with Acer actually but people say get a Dell.

  477. antispy3 Says:

    Post # 27; mom didn’t go over the different usages & spellings of ‘their with you? Great testament to home schooling.

    If you are on-line & not sure about grammar, syntax or spelling “Google” is just one click away. does wonders as a cover against said grammar snafus. . .

  478. DJ Johnny Says:

    This Dell im using now takes too long to correct mistakes…like the above grammatical errors. I just bought this Dell and i’m thinking of taking it back.

  479. DJ Johnny Says:

    Never mind. I’m going to bed. Have a good nite ya’ll.

  480. purvisman Says:

    DJ Johnny Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 11:50 pm
    Off topic but may i ask you guys your opinion the best lap top to get? That won’t break the bank? I’ve alsways had good luck with Acer actually but people say get a Dell./////////////Acer and Asus both have good reps. Dell didn’t several years ago, may have improved. I’ve always liked HP; probably because I’m still using a 2003 HP Compaq presario with no issues. With the emphasis on tablets,netbooks, ultras etc. the best buys seem to be the bigger 15.4″ or 17.1″ laptops. See those from acer, toshiba, HP, etc. at the big box stores(best buy,etc) for $300 acceptable to less than $500 more than acceptable all the time, usually with windows home premium installed. That’s the direction I,m leaning. I don’t mind a big laptop, prefer it actually but I don’t lug it around all that much. You gotta know what’s important to you and obviously the more you spend…

  481. raidertalk Says:

    I think Reggie Mac may be having a hard time getting some quality FAs even with the 7 million in cap space. Apparently our cap situation for next year is way over.

    I guess the problem is that even with the 7 million, he can only offer 1 year contracts right now and maybe these vets like Benson want more.

    I wouldn’t mind a stop-gap veteren LB or RB on a one year contract just to make sure we’re covered if DMAC gets hurt and ROMAC does time/suspension. But it may be hard to wrap up these dudes for just one year.

    I have a sneaking suspicion that this may be the last year for some inflated contracts like Seymore.

    Reggie still has to clean up the bloated contract situations on some of these players because we hit a wall next season.

    Who knows maybe we can restructure cut some of these dudes for next year or will Reggie have to wait unitl 2014?

    One thing is hopeful…At least we’ll start getting out draft picks back after the excesses of the previous Coach and previous owner

  482. 8RaiderReign8 Says:

    Raider O Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 8:46 pm
    Keynesian economics has been discredited in so many ways that it is hard to believe that anyone could make such a statement.
    ——————————-
    Name the studies and post your citations.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2012/07/12/ob a ma nomics-the-final-nail-in-the-discredited-keynesian-coffin/
    _____________________

    this is a FORBES article. They are highly biased.

  483. Kirk Says:

    Keynesian economics works.

    The stimulus saved us from another Great Depression.

  484. Raider Riff Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 5:48 pm
    RR

    It’s all I can say to such wild schit. Lol. Can you provide any links to substantiate those claims that the East vs West Cold War was over a loan agreement and such…..or that the US held all gold reserves after WWII?

    —————————————–

    Would it matter if I posted some links? You seem stuck in your “beliefs”.

    You are very quick to accuse anyone who isnt as poorly read as you of being a partisan Republican but the only one I see being partisan here is you and a few others. Guys like myself, twocents, Raider O, TX, Bunk, and the rest who were civily discussing politics prior to you jumping are all clearly NOT Republicans.

    For whatever reason, you are stuck on that. You dont believe that a person can actually be fed up with the whole system regardless of red/blue. You really want this to be about the current prez and underlying race relations but that has nothing to do with it. I guarantee all of us were beating the same drum while GW was in office.

    You want sources? I already gave you plenty. Now go read. Go educate yourself. Im not going to do it all for you. Im not your college professor and Im certainly not getting paid.

  485. Raider Riff Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 11:02 pm
    Dhidee99 Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 10:52 pm

    JB how do you explain Palmers 38% passer rating in the preseason
    =========================================

    I can explain that two ways. lst, it’s the preseason. No one cares. 2ndly, if you add two drops by Ford, a pass that goes right thru DHB’s hands in the endzone, and another that actually was ruled a TD and then overturned, Palmer would have a rating of 10000. That’s how.

    ———————-

    SeyBush, dont even bother with Ddee. He’s a troll.

    He wants us to cut Palmer & Seymour and trade RunDMC. Those are things only a Broncos fan would suggest.

  486. rediaR Says:

    The main problem with economics is that people on football blogs think they have it figured out.

  487. Raider Riff Says:

    Raider O Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 9:30 pm
    Nyraider Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 9:05 pm
    Raider O Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 8:51 pm
    Excellent post Debo. I agree with you, I prefer my QBs to have a gun.
    ——————————————-
    Jamarcus Russell, Jeff George, Marc Wilson, Dan Pastorini give me Ken Stabler and Rich Gannon all day long versus a gunslinger
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    I wanted Jabustus (he ordered the fish dinner lol), and I still think he could have a been a great QB in this league, but the guy was more interested in sipping sizzurp.

    ————————-

    While I’ll admit to being a Jamarcus apologists during his tenure here (horrible WRs, horrible OLine, 3 coaches, dysfunctional franchise)…. I did not want to draft him.

    My 1st rd picks over the years were…

    98 – Woodson & Moss (coulda had Hines Ward also)
    99 – Peerless Price
    00 – Seabass/Pennington (
    01 – Drew Brees (extremely deep draft, we were one of the very few teams that missed)
    02 – Phil Bucanon (damn we shoulda got Ed Reed!)
    03 – Anquan Boldin (we coulda had Usi Umenyora!)
    04 – Eli or Larry Fitzgerald (we missed badly considering the other picks here)
    05 – Jason Campbell (oh do I regret this, we could have had Aaron Rogers!)
    06 – Matt Leinart (we missed Nick Mangold, Devin Hester, MJD, Brandon Marshall, Dumervill, Colston) OUCH We could have had all those guys!
    07 – Adrian Peterson
    08 – Chris Long or Glenn Dorsey (boy was I wrong here)
    09 – Brian Orakpo (we could have easily had Clay Matthews and later got Mike Wallace)
    10 – Suh (I wanted us to trade up desperately)
    11 – Wiz 2.0
    12 – O-Line help

    Over the history of the Raiders, we never traditionally were a good team at drafting early. We usually lost our early picks because Al was the master at signing away restricted free agents and paying his guys what they deserved. He was the perfect owner for the pre-free agency era.

  488. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Raider Riff Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 2:38 pm
    Raider O Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 2:28 pm
    Riff,

    Your post in the prev thread about socialism and capitalism is money, and that’s why I prefer capitalism. If it wasn’t for capitalism, I can’t afford a new car without using credit, can’t afford private schools, etc…

    —————–

    In socialist states in Europe, the parents send their kids to school to actually LEARN and not use it as a day-care like we do in America. Thus the teachers are able to actually teach instead of running an asylum.

    No need for private schools in socialists states where the citizens are responsible citizens.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Well, I’m in Europe and I’m hard put to think of any socialist states where there are no private schools.
    You are wrong on that one.

    In fact I’m pressed to think of any “socialist” states other than the despotic Belarus.
    You’re wrong on that one.
    Social Democratic states yes, socialist states, no.

    Also, your statement below defies belief:

    “No need for private schools in socialists states where the citizens are responsible citizens.”

    So a socialist state has all obedient citizens while capitalistic states like the USA, Canada, Australia, western Europe, India, etc. have irresponsible citizens?

    Yes, they certainly toe the line in Belarus just as they do in Russia, the old Soviet Union, and non-European socialistic countries like China, and North Korea.

    And you LIKE that?

    God bless the free market system and capitalism and screw socialism!

    Finally, why the fuk are you guys talking about this stuff when the football season is here?!

  489. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Pryor spends most of his time at the hip of veteran Carson Palmer, soaking up knowledge, learning the nuances of the position and waiting his turn.

    It’s not uncommon to see Pryor sticking around after practice to work with Palmer, and he’s never far from Palmer or Matt Leinart off the field, either.

    Coach Dennis Allen and offensive coordinator Greg Knapp rave about Pryor’s work ethic, demeanor and skill set.

    Palmer speaks highly of Pryor, citing his athletic skills, work ethic and mind-set.

    ***

    Pryor = Raiders future franchise QB!

  490. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Tight ends Richard Gordon (ribs) and Tory Humphrey (hamstring) were among those who missed practice. Allen said both will be game-time decisions Saturday night.

    ***

    Myers has a chance to regain the coaches confidence

    Ausberry hasn’t done much in the first two games, surprisingly

  491. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Cooper Carlisle = veteran leadership ??

    nice, coach!

    JFB will be pleased that this old dog has more uses than protecting our offense (Palmer/McFadden)

  492. raidertbone Says:

    Not that I’m looking past this year, but here’s what I see down the road:
    1. Reggie will finally get a crack at a full draft next year; it wouldn’t surprise me a bit to see him trade down and potentially pick up a few extras
    2. Reggie will have a chance to evaluate the upside trade value of a few vets and perhaps deal them for draft picks – for a change, we will be on the opposite side of the fence — stockpiling picks, as opposed to throwing them away
    3. I see a young QB in next year’s draft; Pryor may continue to develop, but the window for Carson is shrinking
    4. TE is a position of need. There are a couple in next year’s draft that I will be keeping my eye on this year during the college football season. If Nelson Rosario, the rookie from UCLA, gets cut by the Panthers, I’d like to see Reggie bring him in for a look very soon
    5. It may be a bit of a rocky season this year, but we could still eke out a division title; either way, the new era will have the haters changing their tune a little by year’s end
    That’s what I think …

  493. RaiderRockstar Says:

    who cares if JFORD is in a walking boot or not?

    he’s a black version of Nick Miller – no point in talking about him

    Streater & Criner: it’s your time to shine, baby!

  494. raidertbone Says:

    J Ford = Dante Hall …
    a lot of flash over a short period of time, and then DONE

  495. guest123 Says:

    not a full draft next year. Curry is going to cost us a 5th I think and Palmer is going to cost us our 2nd next year.

    Carson Palmer is not seeing his window shrinking. Don’t lose the faith so quickly.

  496. guest123 Says:

    You guys are brutal talking about Ford. When he comes back healthy you are going to eat some crow.

  497. raidertbone Says:

    Guest:
    I will be the first one to happily eat crow if I’m wrong about J Ford;
    however, I don’t see him producing like he once did.

  498. raidertbone Says:

    Damn! I forgot about losing the 2nd round pick — maybe they can work a deal to move back into Round 2.

  499. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    More words of wisdom from Hank Williams Jr.

    “We’ve got a Muslim president who hates farming, hates the military, hates the US and we hate him!”

    In Russia, this guy would get the chair.

  500. JR Says:

    Sean,

    Sorry about that. See you in NJ.

    _______________________________________

    Sullivan44 Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 2:56 pm

    Kell, ever since the president got elected, Republicans have just been talking all of this ending government stuff. It’s a scare tactic.

  501. JR Says:

    “Finally, why the fuk are you guys talking about this stuff when the football season is here?!”

    ———————————————–

    Quote of the day.

  502. JR Says:

    Stimulate this.

    ——————————–
    Kirk Says:
    August 24th, 2012 at 1:51 am

    Keynesian economics works.

    The stimulus saved us from another Great Depression.

  503. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    I knew this girl named Keynesian. She stimulated me. You know what I’m saying?

  504. TxRaider210 Says:

    Good morning Nation! Well, I was wrong, Benson looked solid last night. Glad to see THoward get a clean sack on Rodgers though.

  505. TxRaider210 Says:

    Klas

    Whut is good my friend, in the land of Ice and Snow?

  506. hwnrdr Says:

    Good Morning Nation!!!
    Happy Aloha Friday to you all!
    Half day for me, so out at 10:30 AM PST!
    Gotta love it as I get to at least rest up for tomorrows tailgate opener!!!

  507. guest123 Says:

    Nice shift Hwnrdr, enjoy thegame. It would have been nice to stay one more day in the bay area, but I’m heading home. I miss it, this is no longer home for me.

  508. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 24th, 2012 at 5:48 am
    Klas

    Whut is good my friend, in the land of Ice and Snow?
    ——
    Good day TX. Klas is still hung over from yesterday’s economic/political blog battle.

  509. TxRaider210 Says:

    Hwnrdr

    Lucky you man, short day at the office huh? Now that you mention it, I feel like cutting out early today also.

  510. TxRaider210 Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 24th, 2012 at 6:03 am
    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 24th, 2012 at 5:48 am
    Klas

    Whut is good my friend, in the land of Ice and Snow?
    ——
    Good day TX. Klas is still hung over from yesterday’s economic/political blog battle.

    ————————
    LOL That was pretty epic man, I just laugh about it bro, to each their own right?

  511. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Klas cuts out early from work every day. His body is still there, but his mind is gone.

  512. TxRaider210 Says:

    Klas

    There has to be some hot chicks in the library..

  513. hwnrdr Says:

    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 24th, 2012 at 6:03 am
    Hwnrdr

    Lucky you man, short day at the office huh? Now that you mention it, I feel like cutting out early today also.

    Do it…
    Seen a picture online last nite of a water cooler, the kind that you see in offices, but filled with Hennesey! Buwhahaha!!!

  514. hwnrdr Says:

    guest123 Says:
    August 24th, 2012 at 6:03 am
    Nice shift Hwnrdr, enjoy thegame. It would have been nice to stay one more day in the bay area, but I’m heading home. I miss it, this is no longer home for me.

    Yeah too bad you couldn’t stay for the game! But hey, there are other times!!! Are you still here, heading home this morning?

  515. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 24th, 2012 at 6:06 am
    Klas

    There has to be some hot chicks in the library..
    ——
    True, lots of hot Swedish girls wearing glasses.

  516. TxRaider210 Says:

    hwnrdr Says:
    August 24th, 2012 at 6:07 am
    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 24th, 2012 at 6:03 am
    Hwnrdr

    Lucky you man, short day at the office huh? Now that you mention it, I feel like cutting out early today also.

    Do it…
    Seen a picture online last nite of a water cooler, the kind that you see in offices, but filled with Hennesey! Buwhahaha!!!

    ——————-
    LMAO That’s funny you say that cause Hen is my schit bro! The only stuff that never gives me a hangover, even if I drink a whole bottle:)

  517. TxRaider210 Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 24th, 2012 at 6:09 am
    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 24th, 2012 at 6:06 am
    Klas

    There has to be some hot chicks in the library..
    ——
    True, lots of hot Swedish girls wearing glasses.

    ————–
    You should offer to take them Troll hunting in the Ice forest, some chicks like the mountain man..

  518. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Raiders should have signed Cedric.

  519. TxRaider210 Says:

    Klas

    I will wait to see how Benson does in a real game, I still think he’s a flamer.

  520. hwnrdr Says:

    We should put the Hennesey cooler in the library with those Swedish chicks with glasses!

  521. guest123 Says:

    Still stuck in downtown SJ. Flight out at 3PM get back inyo Tampa after midnight. Packing my bags and miss family.

  522. Bob Marley Says:

    Ced Benson looking good in GB, I never pushed for him as I felt he was done and Goodson had more potential so I’m not gonna blame Reggie for not offering more money to him, but it sure looks like he could have solved our back-up RB issue.

    I’m sure Kahlil Bell has been mentioned, decent back-up who can start for a while and produce, the Bears would not pay him the 1.26 million he was slated to earn and with 7 million we can afford to sign him for more tha the 700 K Chicago offered him, one thing to note on Bell: 3 fumbles in 79 carries last year, so ball-security would remain a concern as with Goodson, maybe Reggie prefers the guy he traded for.

  523. hwnrdr Says:

    guest123 Says:
    August 24th, 2012 at 6:19 am
    Still stuck in downtown SJ. Flight out at 3PM get back inyo Tampa after midnight. Packing my bags and miss family.

    I hear ya Guest! i don’t mind getting away for a bit at times, but I’m always happy to come home to smiling faces and hugs!

  524. TxRaider210 Says:

    hwnrdr Says:
    August 24th, 2012 at 6:17 am
    We should put the Hennesey cooler in the library with those Swedish chicks with glasses!

    ————————
    This is a great idea! Mix it with a little sprite and they won’t know what hit them.lol

  525. guest123 Says:

    I’m not sure Kahlil Bell is worth what he thinks he’s worth, but I’m pretty sure Mike Goodson isn’t the answer at backup RB. Reggie will be shaking the bushes some looking for depth at RB and LB, and he should be keeping an eye on available TE’s too.

  526. hwnrdr Says:

    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 24th, 2012 at 6:27 am
    hwnrdr Says:
    August 24th, 2012 at 6:17 am
    We should put the Hennesey cooler in the library with those Swedish chicks with glasses!

    ————————
    This is a great idea! Mix it with a little sprite and they won’t know what hit them.lol

    Or we won’t know…lol

  527. TxRaider210 Says:

    Bob

    It may be a good thing that Benson played well, should inspire Goody to play better, knowing that we could have signed Cedric.imo

  528. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Man, poor planning on my part.

    Drove down to El Paso (4.5 hours) Wed afternoon, drive home tonight leaving at 5, and then after our FFL draft on Sunday, I turn right around and drive back to Las Cruces for a 4 day stay.

  529. TxRaider210 Says:

    hwnrdr Says:
    August 24th, 2012 at 6:28 am
    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 24th, 2012 at 6:27 am
    hwnrdr Says:
    August 24th, 2012 at 6:17 am
    We should put the Hennesey cooler in the library with those Swedish chicks with glasses!

    ————————
    This is a great idea! Mix it with a little sprite and they won’t know what hit them.lol

    Or we won’t know…lol

    ——————
    LOL For real though man, Hen is strong straight up, but with sprite mixed in it is smooth sailing.

  530. guest123 Says:

    Game to be shown on tape delay on local channel 36 in the bay area at 7PM but live at 4PM up in Sacramento, wierd huh?

  531. TxRaider210 Says:

    JFB

    Is there still a motorcycle/go kart store on the main drag in Cruces? If so, that’s where I had my first job at 15.lol

  532. guest123 Says:

    Of the potential FA possibilities on cutdown day, I think Chris Ivory appeals the most to me. Bruising physical runner who protects the rock.

  533. Just Fire Baby Says:

    When I start swigging Hen, that is when the wife knows I am pretty buzzed.

    I start with a beer or two, maybe an LI or a Capt/Diet Coke…….and then once the body starts to tingle a tad, it is on to the Henny or even worse, a SoCo/Red Bull.

  534. TxRaider210 Says:

    guest123 Says:
    August 24th, 2012 at 6:32 am
    Of the potential FA possibilities on cutdown day, I think Chris Ivory appeals the most to me. Bruising physical runner who protects the rock.

    ——————-
    Endorsed, dude is a solid runner without many miles yet.

  535. PlunkforHOF Says:

    Nice thread.. 95% non-football related and the most meaningful game of the preseason tomorrow. Jeez.

  536. TxRaider210 Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    August 24th, 2012 at 6:33 am
    When I start swigging Hen, that is when the wife knows I am pretty buzzed.

    I start with a beer or two, maybe an LI or a Capt/Diet Coke…….and then once the body starts to tingle a tad, it is on to the Henny or even worse, a SoCo/Red Bull.

    ————————–
    Henny is the schiz-nit, every year I get that as a bday gift.lol

  537. guest123 Says:

    A few preseason carries aren’t the accurate story of Cedric Benson. He will wear down over a game and still net you 20 carries for 60 yards. It all evens out in the end.

  538. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Not sure 210, stay in Mesilla area and don’t really do anything in town, other then the occasional Hooters trip.

  539. TxRaider210 Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    August 24th, 2012 at 6:36 am
    Not sure 210, stay in Mesilla area and don’t really do anything in town, other then the occasional Hooters trip.

    ——————–
    Oh I see, yeah they’re kind of different areas. I may take a cruise to Cruces just for fun when I visit EP.

  540. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Nice thread.. 95% non-football related and the most meaningful game of the preseason tomorrow. Jeez.

    *************************

    Hey, I tried to take about Savage Carlisle last night, as it pertained to the writeup above, but I didn’t get any bites.

  541. Bob Marley Says:

    Guest.

    Agreed, Chris Ivory or Travaris Cadet, the guy pushing him in NO would be solid pick-ups.

    I mentioned Miami’s Steve Slaton the other day, he would also be a guy worth a shot, kid ran for 1200 yards in Houston’s ZBS as a rookie and is supposedly doing well in camp so he might make the team, I would offer a conditional 7th (provided he makes our team) for him, see what Miami has to say.

  542. guest123 Says:

    hwnrdr Says:

    I hear ya Guest! i don’t mind getting away for a bit at times, but I’m always happy to come home to smiling faces and hugs!
    ^^^^^^

    I know I miss that. This place is so cold. No one makes eye contact in the streets. Coffee shop is all automated, swipe you credit card, touch screen self serve order and even when they hand you your breakfast they don’t make eye contact. I don’t remember California ever being so cold.

  543. TxRaider210 Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    August 24th, 2012 at 6:37 am
    Nice thread.. 95% non-football related and the most meaningful game of the preseason tomorrow. Jeez.

    *************************

    Hey, I tried to take about Savage Carlisle last night, as it pertained to the writeup above, but I didn’t get any bites.

    ——————-

    LOL I’ll admit, I did engage for a while, but then I started saying “I wish you the best, any football talk?”…yeah I didn’t get any bites either.

  544. TxRaider210 Says:

    Slaton or Ivory Reggie, make it happen!!!

  545. Bob Marley Says:

    And as far as Benson is concerned, I don’t think he’ll wear down as GB wont’ give him 300 plus carries like Cincy, my main concern is that he’s a moody guy and the set-up in GB has clearly made him a happy camper, not sure he’d love playing second fiddle to McFadden here.

  546. guest123 Says:

    Cooper Carlisle experiment at LG is a bad idea. He’s on his last legs and swiching positions. We need to take our lumps with Bergstrom because Cooper is a trainwreck waiting to happen.

  547. TxRaider210 Says:

    Bob Marley Says:
    August 24th, 2012 at 6:42 am
    And as far as Benson is concerned, I don’t think he’ll wear down as GB wont’ give him 300 plus carries like Cincy, my main concern is that he’s a moody guy and the set-up in GB has clearly made him a happy camper, not sure he’d love playing second fiddle to McFadden here.

    ———————-
    True, Benson does seem to be a tad too moody, wouldn’t want him to end up a locker-room cancer.

  548. guest123 Says:

    I agree about Ced Benson being moody. It’s his volatile nature and he’s got an opinion of his abilities that is out of touch with reality. I also agree that he’s nothing more than a change of pace back that will be part of a committee and get maybe ten to fifteen carries a game. Which will in turn just piss him off more. Good luck to GB handling that drama queen Benson.

  549. hwnrdr Says:

    guest123 Says:
    August 24th, 2012 at 6:31 am
    Game to be shown on tape delay on local channel 36 in the bay area at 7PM but live at 4PM up in Sacramento, wierd huh?

    Did it not sell out?

  550. Bob Marley Says:

    Anyway, if Reggie goes after a RB, he has some nice advantages to try and lure him here over some other team.

    First, there’s money, we have the room to make a quality offer.

    Second, a great chance to earn the # 2 job and at least get back-up carries with a healthy McFadden around, plus a shot to take over as the main man if he goes down.

    Bottom line, we offer the best combination of a good deal and playing time out there.

  551. guest123 Says:

    I guess it didn’t sell out in enough time to show live.

  552. TxRaider210 Says:

    Bob Marley Says:
    August 24th, 2012 at 6:48 am
    Anyway, if Reggie goes after a RB, he has some nice advantages to try and lure him here over some other team.

    First, there’s money, we have the room to make a quality offer.

    Second, a great chance to earn the # 2 job and at least get back-up carries with a healthy McFadden around, plus a shot to take over as the main man if he goes down.

    Bottom line, we offer the best combination of a good deal and playing time out there.

    ——————–
    That is very true, I think Reg is just waiting for the game tomorrow to see how Goodson plays, if he stinks he may be cut on Monday..

  553. guest123 Says:

    The Oakland RB situation is an attractive one, I agree. Look how M. Bush parlayed DMC’s fragility into $14 million. There are a ton of running backs who would love to have a shot at that kind of money. But only so many potentially open jobs that could bring that opportunity. DMAC has not proven himself to stay healthy, so that is a huge selling point for a FA RB to sign with Oakland.

  554. Bob Marley Says:

    Somebody already mentioned that William Powell kid from AZ, he sure looked good last night, like a young Ray Rice, even vs back-ups, if you are talented you should dominate lower levels of competition and Powell has been doing it, he’s now the pre-season’s leading rusher, I doubt he’ll get cut but you never know.

  555. TxRaider210 Says:

    Bob

    AZ is pretty dumb though, they did throw everything at Kolb, I sure hope they cut Powell.lol

  556. hwnrdr Says:

    Powell, was that the kid that our 3rd stringers couldn’t stop last week?

  557. TxRaider210 Says:

    Yep, that would be him.

  558. guest123 Says:

    Looks like a tropical storm or even a hurricane could welcome the RNC on Monday. Perfect timing!

  559. Bob Marley Says:

    Hwnrdr.

    And he looked even better last night, making people miss in the open field and breaking takles all over the place, AZ players love him…Fitz specially was cheering like a school girl every time he made a play, they’ll probably keep him.

  560. hwnrdr Says:

    Oh well…we can scratch that kid off of the list.

  561. johnnylama Says:

    Anyone know if the game will be televised via Charter in Reno?

  562. DJ Johnny Says:

    Kahlil Bell is NOT too bad a player. No fumbling issues…and good for 3.5- 4ypc.

    I don’t care how slick Goodson is…fast, evasive, etc. those fumbles will absolutely kill a team.

    I’d rather have a guy who just takes the ball and falls down right away.

  563. guest123 Says:

    Fumbling is the cardinal sin for RB’s. It’s the quickest ticket out of the league. You can be a declining slug with a 3.5 ypc like Cedric Benson. But if you can protect the rock, you will still have a paycheck. But drop the ball and nobody will touch you on an NFL roster.

    Goodson is standing on the ledge right now with his football career. If the Raiders cut him and the last impression was that last game, it may be the end of his short career as an NFL back.

  564. DJ Johnny Says:

    I bet if Reggie offers him a one yr. mill. dollar contract Khalil Bell will take it.

    Qusetion is, is he worth that much?

  565. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    I been doing these compute tutorials online. The instructors name is Chaz Chumley. What an amazing name!

  566. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Another shooting. This time in NY City:

    http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2012/08/3-or-4-wounded-in-shooting-near-empire-state-building/1#.UDeUQ8FlRy0

  567. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    10.Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 23rd, 2012 at 2:16 pm
    Exlaraider, I only remember one game against Barry Sanders in Detroit. Bo vs. Barry, the Raiders won that game.

    ————————————————–
    I was at that game they called it the Bo and Barry show. It was one of the most exciting games I ever went too. You don’t know how fast Bo was until you saw him live in action. Up top he was bult like a LB. When he ran he looked like a deer. Never saw an athletes legs move that fast.

  568. TxRaider210 Says:

    LOL@ Chaz Chumley

  569. guest123 Says:

    Bell has no leverage now after being cut. He’ll take what the market is offering and be happy with it. The days of demanding $1.3 mill are gone now.

  570. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    563.guest123 Says:
    August 24th, 2012 at 7:38 am
    Fumbling is the cardinal sin for RB’s. It’s the quickest ticket out of the league. You can be a declining slug with a 3.5 ypc like Cedric Benson. But if you can protect the rock, you will still have a paycheck. But drop the ball and nobody will touch you on an NFL roster.

    Goodson is standing on the ledge right now with his football career. If the Raiders cut him and the last impression was that last game, it may be the end of his short career as an NFL back.

    ———————————————-
    Yep! He better start watching Tiki Barber video. He solved his problem by learning how to run with the ball with two hands on the ball.

  571. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    19 shot in Chicago last night:

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-shootings-chicago-violence-august-23-august-24-violence-gunfire-20120823,0,49779.story

  572. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Chaz Chumley Tjorborn will be the name of my son.

  573. guest123 Says:

    NYC is the dog days of August and I’m not at all surprised these types of shootings aren’t more common. Heat makes people crazy.

  574. TxRaider210 Says:

    Klas

    You know Chicago/New York both have gun bans, so that guns only land in the hands of criminals. Bad news.

  575. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 24th, 2012 at 7:48 am
    Klas

    You know Chicago/New York both have gun bans, so that guns only land in the hands of criminals. Bad news.
    ——-
    All those Chicago shootings were gang bangers. It seems the NY one was a crazy disgruntled employ. If Klas was there with his bow, he would have saved the day.

  576. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Chicago has had more killings this summer than Afghanistan.

  577. TxRaider210 Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 24th, 2012 at 7:51 am
    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 24th, 2012 at 7:48 am
    Klas

    You know Chicago/New York both have gun bans, so that guns only land in the hands of criminals. Bad news.
    ——-
    All those Chicago shootings were gang bangers. It seems the NY one was a crazy disgruntled employ. If Klas was there with his bow, he would have saved the day.

    ———————-

    LOL They would have never expected Klas to jump from the bushes, bow in hand, I could see it working.

  578. TxRaider210 Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 24th, 2012 at 7:51 am
    Chicago has had more killings this summer than Afghanistan.

    ———————
    I guess since the people there saw that their politicians were all corrupt, they decided to take the low road also..

  579. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 24th, 2012 at 7:57 am
    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 24th, 2012 at 7:51 am
    Chicago has had more killings this summer than Afghanistan.

    ———————
    I guess since the people there saw that their politicians were all corrupt, they decided to take the low road also..
    ——
    Klas has friend who lives there. Says it is like two different cities. There is white people city in the north and black city in the south. The white people don’t much care what goes on if they never see it.

  580. TxRaider210 Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 24th, 2012 at 8:00 am
    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 24th, 2012 at 7:57 am
    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 24th, 2012 at 7:51 am
    Chicago has had more killings this summer than Afghanistan.

    ———————
    I guess since the people there saw that their politicians were all corrupt, they decided to take the low road also..
    ——
    Klas has friend who lives there. Says it is like two different cities. There is white people city in the north and black city in the south. The white people don’t much care what goes on if they never see it.

    ———————–
    Yeah that’s the problem, they take the out of sight out of mind approach. Most city’s I’ve been to are somewhat segregated by race, but 19 shootings is just outrageous.

  581. Marks hair Says:

    Anyone who attended last weeks ravens game needs to be checked for rabies.. killer bats.

  582. TxRaider210 Says:

    First West Nile, now rabies, holy moly.

  583. PlunkforHOF Says:

    johnnylama Says:
    August 24th, 2012 at 7:21 am
    Anyone know if the game will be televised via Charter in Reno?

    ########################################

    I checked the newspaper this morning, and there was no listing in sports. I think it said we’re getting Saints/Texans for some reason. Dosent mean it wont be on though.

  584. Silverandblack666 Says:

    There too many angry stupid people that can easily get a gun. There are also too many stupid people reproducing.

    Two things in this country we cannot seem to fix, the excessive breeding of retards and those retards growing up buying guns.

  585. Raider Riff Says:

    Im in favor of Chris Ivory as well.

    What is the knock on him though? Why wouldnt N.O. keep him?

  586. rickydudlyphan Says:

    we’re all going to die!!!

  587. TxRaider210 Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    August 24th, 2012 at 8:11 am
    There too many angry stupid people that can easily get a gun. There are also too many stupid people reproducing.

    Two things in this country we cannot seem to fix, the excessive breeding of retards and those retards growing up buying guns.

    —————–
    Truth

  588. DEATHROW 55 Says:

    I like that rb Powell from AZ cardinals I heard he’s getting cut Powell> Goodson.

  589. Raider Riff Says:

    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 24th, 2012 at 8:12 am
    Silverandblack666 Says:
    August 24th, 2012 at 8:11 am
    There too many angry stupid people that can easily get a gun. There are also too many stupid people reproducing.

    Two things in this country we cannot seem to fix, the excessive breeding of retards and those retards growing up buying guns.

    —————–
    Truth

    —————–

    Over 90% of all food consumed in the USA is processed.

    With a population that malnurished and sick, it’s kinda unrealistic to expect it to be intelligent when it comes to gun ownership or reproducing.

  590. raidertbone Says:

    RE Post #584

    And let’s not forget all the angry AND the stupid people who are allowed to blog their opinions or otherwise worthless drivel for the public consumption.

    Not to worry, though, when the Republicans sweep into office, all cursing will be banned from the internet, the only songs permitted to be downloaded will be happy, upbeat songs, and all sports teams will have to convert their colors to red, white, and blue. Marijuana will be permanently banned, and everyone will have to attend a religious service of some type at least once a day. Oh, and ladies, if you happen to get raped – get over it, they’re gonna make you have that kid, anyway!

  591. Marks hair Says:

    Fukk sirius radio.. they just love beson now.. they shlt all over hin when they thout he was coming to oakland.

  592. Marks hair Says:

    Powell lookes way better than goody..

  593. r8eray Says:

    DEATHROW 55 Says:
    August 24th, 2012 at 8:14 am
    I like that rb Powell from AZ cardinals I heard he’s getting cut Powell> Goodson.

    ——–

    Read the same thing…I’ll jump on that bandwagon!

    Shooot…I’ll take Fargas over Goodson!

  594. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Powell was limping off the field last I saw him yesterday, so a signing of him comes with that little caveat.

  595. raidertbone Says:

    Marks Hair:
    One more hit on that bong and then hit the spellchecker!

  596. Raider Riff Says:

    Please, no Fargas. That guy never broke one tackle his entire time here. He tripped over the hash marks one time.

    I loved his effort and toughness but damn was he a disappointment.

  597. r8eray Says:

    Just heard Chuby Checker is going to be performing at Buffalo Bills (state-line Cali.-Nev.) on Saturday!!

  598. raidertbone Says:

    Any personal trainer at Gold’s Gym > Goodson

  599. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Chuby is making the rounds, he was in Albuquerque a month or so ago.

  600. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I am going to laugh at all of you when Goodson rips off a 40 yard screen pass this weekend.

  601. TxRaider210 Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    August 24th, 2012 at 8:24 am
    I am going to laugh at all of you when Goodson rips off a 40 yard screen pass this weekend.

    ———————-
    It could happen, I think the guy deserves ONE more shot in a game, no more if he stinks again.

  602. raidertbone Says:

    Keep your eyes open for Stanley Havili – a 245 lb. bruiser out of USC, and now with the Eagles. He is listed at FB, and he was on the Eagles’ practice squad last year. They used him a little at both FB and TE — I really like him, and he just MAY be available in a few days .. just sayin’

  603. hwnrdr Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    August 24th, 2012 at 8:24 am
    I am going to laugh at all of you when Goodson rips off a 40 yard screen pass this weekend.

    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 24th, 2012 at 8:25 am
    Just Fire Baby Says:
    August 24th, 2012 at 8:24 am
    I am going to laugh at all of you when Goodson rips off a 40 yard screen pass this weekend.

    ———————-
    It could happen, I think the guy deserves ONE more shot in a game, no more if he stinks again.

    LOL, I won’t be laughing! I’ll be cheering my ass off!!! Wait…he should come in by second qtr right?

  604. raidertbone Says:

    Goodson + fumbles + injuries + tiny hands = Bye! Bye!

  605. TxRaider210 Says:

    hwnrdr Says:
    August 24th, 2012 at 8:32 am
    Just Fire Baby Says:
    August 24th, 2012 at 8:24 am
    I am going to laugh at all of you when Goodson rips off a 40 yard screen pass this weekend.

    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 24th, 2012 at 8:25 am
    Just Fire Baby Says:
    August 24th, 2012 at 8:24 am
    I am going to laugh at all of you when Goodson rips off a 40 yard screen pass this weekend.

    ———————-
    It could happen, I think the guy deserves ONE more shot in a game, no more if he stinks again.

    LOL, I won’t be laughing! I’ll be cheering my ass off!!! Wait…he should come in by second qtr right?

    —————————
    I really don’t know man, I would hope DMC doesn’t play much, but he might go into the 3rd.

  606. raidertbone Says:

    Don’t see DMac playing at all in the second half. I think the teams will both play hard during the 1st half, then call off the dogs …

  607. TxRaider210 Says:

    raidertbone Says:
    August 24th, 2012 at 8:35 am
    Don’t see DMac playing at all in the second half. I think the teams will both play hard during the 1st half, then call off the dogs …

    ———————
    That’s what I think also, but would like DMC not to play at all. We need to see more Goodson/Jones, since they may be gone soon.

  608. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Goodson + fumbles + injuries + tiny hands = Bye! Bye!

    *****************************

    Goodson stands a chance of being cut somewhere between zero and 1%.

    He will be our special teams captain once the season starts.

  609. Marks hair Says:

    Touchscreen…in a hurry… mi malo

  610. Marks hair Says:

    I fear for goodsons safety.. he’s made of legos

  611. Marks hair Says:

    I hope dmac plays no more than a qtr..
    No wiz=long day.. a detroit plays dirty

  612. RaiderDuck Says:

    R8eray Says:
    August 24th, 2012 at 8:22 am
    Just heard Chubby Checker is going to be performing at Buffalo Bills (state-line Cali.-Nev.) on Saturday!!

    ==============================================

    He’s still alive???

  613. The Big Banana Says:

    Rickydudlyphan Says:
    August 24th, 2012 at 8:12 am
    we’re all going to die!!!

    ——–

    We’re all goong to die at some point, but if Monsanto and the pharmaceutical companies have their way, it’ll be much sooner than it should be.

  614. Raider Riff Says:

    The Big Banana Says:
    August 24th, 2012 at 8:52 am
    Rickydudlyphan Says:
    August 24th, 2012 at 8:12 am
    we’re all going to die!!!

    ——–

    We’re all goong to die at some point, but if Monsanto and the pharmaceutical companies have their way, it’ll be much sooner than it should be.

    ————–

    Boom!

    I like your style Banana.

  615. The Big Banana Says:

    Raider Riff – you know what you speak of, my man.

    For those of you not in the know, pay attention to this man’s posts.

  616. Marks hair Says:

    Such a bore

  617. The Big Banana Says:

    Thanks Riff

  618. raidertbone Says:

    I’m dying right now – for another bong hit!

  619. johnnylama Says:

    Thanks for checking PlunkforHOF!

  620. Silverandblack666 Says:

    puff puff pass to Raidertbone

  621. raidertbone Says:

    Fantasy Land vs the Chargers:
    Wouldn’t it be nice if:
    Marcell could catch 2 screen passes out of the backfield and rack up about 30-40 yards;
    then, they put him in on their goal line package 5 times and he comes away with 5 short TD runs;
    He would blow away all the fantasy numbers and yet not a single person would have him on their Fantasy team
    Raiders win by 35 points and f everyone!

  622. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    August 24th, 2012 at 9:01 am
    puff puff pass to Raidertbone
    —————–
    can I get a quick rip off the ole’ bong?

  623. Silverandblack666 Says:

    yes you can!

  624. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    raidertbone Says:
    August 24th, 2012 at 9:02 am
    Fantasy Land vs the Chargers:
    Wouldn’t it be nice if:
    Marcell could catch 2 screen passes out of the backfield and rack up about 30-40 yards;
    then, they put him in on their goal line package 5 times and he comes away with 5 short TD runs;
    He would blow away all the fantasy numbers and yet not a single person would have him on their Fantasy team
    Raiders win by 35 points and f everyone!
    ——————-
    the league I’m in is so deep he actually could be a starter! Crazy!

  625. hwnrdr Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    August 24th, 2012 at 9:08 am
    yes you can!

    666, see you tomorrow brother!

  626. r8eray Says:

    Raidertbone Says:
    August 24th, 2012 at 9:02 am
    Fantasy Land vs the Chargers:
    Wouldn’t it be nice if:
    Marcell could catch 2 screen passes out of the backfield and rack up about 30-40 yards;
    then, they put him in on their goal line package 5 times and he comes away with 5 short TD runs;
    He would blow away all the fantasy numbers and yet not a single person would have him on their Fantasy team
    Raiders win by 35 points and f everyone!

    ======

    I’m gonna wait to see what he does the 1st 2 games before I pick him up in Free Agency…same with Moore, Streater, Criner and DHB!

  627. raidertbone Says:

    I have DHB in my league — he’s the only Raider I got. I might add Streater later, depending on what happens between now and Week 1.

  628. shutdown Says:

    Someone who’s been paying more attention this off-season than I, please tell me what could possibly be wrong with Curry’s “knees,” the plural.

    The only thing that usually flares up in both knees at the same time…arthritis.

    What’s the deal?

  629. Raidernationdave Says:

    Whut up my beyotches!

  630. Raidernationdave Says:

    It’s not as if the D has to have Curry.

    ++++++++++++++++++++

    “– Linebacker Aaron Curry hasn’t practiced in more than two months, and he remains in the physically unable to perform list as a result of sore knees. Even so, Allen isn’t counting out Curry for the regular-season opener.
    “No, not to that point,” Allen said, when asked if Curry has missed too much time to be counted upon for the opener. “Now what role he plays, we’ll see. I’m not going to make any decision on him as far as ruling him out or not, at least until we get into game week.”
    It’s important to note that Curry still won’t be able to practice at full capacity until three days after he is activated because of the acclimation period set forth in the new collective bargaining agreement.
    Therefore, he’s looking at one week’s worth of practice, at best, to prepare for the Chargers game.
    The other option for the Raiders is to leave Curry on the P.U.P. list, which would force Curry to miss at least the first six regular-season games. The deadline to make that decision is fast approaching.”

  631. rediaR Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    August 24th, 2012 at 4:24 am
    Cooper Carlisle = veteran leadership ??

    nice, coach!

    JFB will be pleased that this old dog has more uses than protecting our offense (Palmer/McFadden)
    ———————————-
    To be fair, Steve just kinda threw some guy’s names out there. DA didn’t mention names.

  632. dcraiderfan Says:

    Here’s a headline from my local fishwrap “Campbell TD pass caps second-half rally and leads Bears over Giants 20-17″ Instead, Spuds let him go to Chicago. In favor, for that Loser Palmer! Get rid of Palmer and Leinart! Or the team will suffer and 2-14 season?

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