Raiders live chat today at noon
By Jon Becker
Friday, August 24th, 2012 at 9:06 am in Oakland Raiders.
Join Bay Area News Group writer Steve Corkran for a live chat today at noon as the Oakland Raiders prepare for their Saturday exhibition game against the Detroit Lions.
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August 24th, 2012 at 9:07 am
Get me some water because Im dying of FIRST
August 24th, 2012 at 9:08 am
This new chat format sucks balls. Does Cork notice? Does he care?
August 24th, 2012 at 9:09 am
yeah it does you can’t read some of it.
They have not fixed it because its a low priority for them.
August 24th, 2012 at 9:10 am
What is a priority for them? (rhetorical question)
August 24th, 2012 at 9:13 am
reaping the advertising dollars from our clicks as high as they can with as low of maintenance as possible to the site I would guess Riff.
August 24th, 2012 at 9:13 am
Do we even get any good info from these chats or is it recycled info?
August 24th, 2012 at 9:15 am
Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 9:13 am
raidertbone Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 9:02 am
Fantasy Land vs the Chargers:
Wouldn’t it be nice if:
Marcell could catch 2 screen passes out of the backfield and rack up about 30-40 yards;
then, they put him in on their goal line package 5 times and he comes away with 5 short TD runs;
He would blow away all the fantasy numbers and yet not a single person would have him on their Fantasy team
Raiders win by 35 points and f everyone!
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the league I’m in is so deep he actually could be a starter! Crazy!
August 24th, 2012 at 9:16 am
It could be worse. nfl.com has become so lethargic I can’t even go there anymore. Stupid coin thing.
August 24th, 2012 at 9:16 am
The Big Banana Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 9:13 am
Do we even get any good info from these chats or is it recycled info?
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unfortunetley they are garbage. Too much speculation not enough facts.
August 24th, 2012 at 9:19 am
The Big Banana Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 9:13 am
Do we even get any good info from these chats or is it recycled info?
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Cork will answer the same recycled questions over and over again. He gets a lot of dumb questions, Im not sure why he answers them, but he does, repeatedly.
If you try calling him on anything, he will ignore you. He may respond, but he will dodge the actual question like his life depends on it. He will never admit he was wrong (ie DHB)
He will tell us how badly we need CBs and WRs. Despite the fact that they are the least important positions on offense and defense.
He will still be pounding that “build a bully” drum. He doesnt realize how tired it is.
He rarely takes a stance on anything he will later be held accountable for. He knows we semi’s dont forget a thing and love to call him on it.
Does he have some insight from time to time? Yes he does. Like when he posted some rumors/details regarding how Hue got himself canned and the terms of Reggie hire by Mark Davis. I wish he stuck to stuff like this. Cork is a member of the media. He hears a lot of stuff that would NEVER make the mainstream news. I wish he gave us more scoops and stories from stuff he’s seen and heard but oh well.
August 24th, 2012 at 9:28 am
Think I’ll pass then. Thanks for the rundown, gents. Check in a bit later. Enjoy your morning.
August 24th, 2012 at 9:31 am
I would argue, well the scheme does depend a little I guess, that CB’s are more important than LB’s.
I think D-line is the 2nd most important position behind QB, but OUR COACH said the nickle corner is a starter in today’s NFL, and ends up seeing the field more than an OLB.
I would be willing to bet if Burris is our starting OLB, our nickle corner will see the field more.
August 24th, 2012 at 9:40 am
raidertbone Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 4:41 am
Damn! I forgot about losing the 2nd round pick — maybe they can work a deal to move back into Round 2./////////////////I’d be happy getting 2 seconds or a second and third for our first. Never have liked risk/reward of firsts, even before you know who. Might be better now with CBA rookie contract set-up. Forgot the details of that.
August 24th, 2012 at 9:40 am
Raider Riff Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 9:07 am
Get me some water because Im dying of FIRST
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chuckles
August 24th, 2012 at 9:41 am
Raidertbone Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 9:02 am
Fantasy Land vs the Chargers:
Wouldn’t it be nice if:
Marcell could catch 2 screen passes out of the backfield and rack up about 30-40 yards;
then, they put him in on their goal line package 5 times and he comes away with 5 short TD runs;
He would blow away all the fantasy numbers and yet not a single person would have him on their Fantasy team
Raiders win by 35 points and f everyone!
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I’m gonna wait to see what he does the 1st 2 games before I pick him up in Free Agency…same with Moore, Streater, Criner and DHB!
August 24th, 2012 at 9:45 am
I’m hoping Knapp uses Reece as our replacement for Bush this year.
If he doesn’t, then Knapp is a certifiable IDIOT!
August 24th, 2012 at 9:51 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 9:31 am
I would argue, well the scheme does depend a little I guess, that CB’s are more important than LB’s.
I think D-line is the 2nd most important position behind QB, but OUR COACH said the nickle corner is a starter in today’s NFL, and ends up seeing the field more than an OLB.
I would be willing to bet if Burris is our starting OLB, our nickle corner will see the field more.
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Mediocre QBs can look very good with a good O-Line. A poor O-Line will make a great QB look bad.
Same with the running back position. Those guys usually nothing without good line play.
So to me, nothing is more important than your O-Line.
Offense wins games. Defense wins championships. To build a team I think you start off just trying to win games, so that is why I put the O-Line slightly ahead of the D-Line. Either way, teams are built from the inside out.
If I put O-Line the most important, I put the D-Line second. The DE position these days is the only position in the sport that can single handedly take over a game. Every other position is heavily dependent on the rest of the team but the DE can change everything. For example, look at the way the DE’s for the Giants have won them their last two SuperBowls.
Great D-Line play makes everyone elses jobs easier.
After the D line, then I put the QB position. Plenty of SuperBowls have been won with slightly above average QBs. And plenty of great QB’s have never won a SuperBowl. If your O-Line and D-Line are top notch, you got a real chance.
The Ravens and Ed Reed are a prime example that the Safeties are more important than the CBs. The CBs on that team have been a revolving door yet that D has been excellent the last decade.
I’ll take a great LB core ahead of great DB’s any day. Our team is a prime example of being the opposite of the Ravens. Our DB lineup has been very good the last decade. Our LB core has been horrible. And as a result, our D has sucked.
August 24th, 2012 at 9:57 am
Riff (Gump)
son, you are a Gvd Damn genius. you have been on fire the last couple days, keep up the good work
August 24th, 2012 at 9:57 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 9:09 am
yeah it does you can’t read some of it.
They have not fixed it because its a low priority for them.
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Both contracostatimes.com and insidebayarea.com should have working links with correctly-formatted chats.
August 24th, 2012 at 10:01 am
QB is the most important position, and it’s not even close.
August 24th, 2012 at 10:02 am
QB is important but if your line can’t sustain blocks you are screwed so I agree it is important but not the most important. IMO
August 24th, 2012 at 10:06 am
Plenty of SuperBowls have been won with slightly above average QBs. And plenty of great QB’s have never won a SuperBowl.
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Besides Marino, which great QBs never won a SB ?
Fouts ?
Please don’t say Gannon.
And what mediocre QBs won a SB ?
Let’s see how plentiful the lists actually are.
August 24th, 2012 at 10:09 am
Riff nailed it. OL and DL most important, then QB
August 24th, 2012 at 10:15 am
Mister Moon
August 24th, 2012 at 10:16 am
“Both contracostatimes.com and insidebayarea.com should have working links with correctly-formatted chats.”
One would think that with the advertising revenue they are generating from this blog they could make sure its correctly-formatted.
August 24th, 2012 at 10:18 am
So GB is a threat to win the SB, due to their dominant OL or DL, not Aaron Rogers, right ?
NE is a threat every year bcz of their OL, not Brady, right ?
Here’s a scoop for you guys, unless you have a dominating defense (eg. 85 Bears, Dilfer’s Ravens, Johnson’s Bucs) you’re going to be extremely hard pressed to win a SB without a premium QB.
August 24th, 2012 at 10:21 am
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 10:06 am
Besides Marino, which great QBs never won a SB ?
Fouts ?
Please don’t say Gannon.
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Marino
Fouts
Gannon (NFL MVP)
Warren Moon
Archie Manning
Fran Tarkenton
Jim Kelly
John Hadl
Bert Jones
Ken Anderson
John Brodie
Steve Bartkowski
And there are others…
As for mediocre Super Bowl QBs:
Trent Dilfer was the worst to ever win one.
Dilfer and David Woodley are the worst to start one.
August 24th, 2012 at 10:21 am
Time to leave work for the week! Have a great weekend everyone!
LET’S GO RAIDERS!!!
August 24th, 2012 at 10:25 am
Plenty of SuperBowls have been won with slightly above average QBs. And plenty of great QB’s have never won a SuperBowl.
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Besides Marino, which great QBs never won a SB ?
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Just a list for discussion and not in order:
Marino, Jim Kelly, Fran Tarkenton, Warren Moon, Dan Fouts, Donovan McNabb (Says he is a HOF), Drew Bledsoe, Ron Jaworski, Steve McNair, Archie Manning, Boomer Esiason, Randall Cunningham, Jake Plummer
August 24th, 2012 at 10:26 am
zzzzzzzzz
August 24th, 2012 at 10:26 am
The Steelers have had an awful O-line for years, and bagged two super bowls with it.
If you ever seen the America’s Game on the Steelers SB team (when they beat the Cards) they talk about it all the time.
Funny part, Big Ben says he goes into the huddle on the last drive, and tell’s his O-line basically, you sucked all year, but now is your chance to shine.
First play, holding LT, lol.
They still won.
August 24th, 2012 at 10:26 am
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 10:06 am
Plenty of SuperBowls have been won with slightly above average QBs. And plenty of great QB’s have never won a SuperBowl.
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Besides Marino, which great QBs never won a SB ?
Fouts ?
Please don’t say Gannon.
And what mediocre QBs won a SB ?
Let’s see how plentiful the lists actually are.
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Do your own research troll. You have less intelligence than a garden hose, and “its not even close.”
Show me one SuperBowl team that didnt have a very good offensive line?
Great QB’s who didnt win SuperBowls:
- Fran Tarkenton
- Archie Manning
- Dan Fouts
- Boomer Esiason
- Jim Kelly
- Warren Moon
- Marino
- Steve McNair
Great QB’s who couldnt win a SuperBowl until they had a really good run game (ie O-Line) and/or Defense
- Elway
- Peyton Manning
- Drew Brees
Average QB’s who won SuperBowls (great leaders tho):
- Joe Namath
- Terry Bradshaw
- Bob Griese
- Jim Plunkett
- Jim McMahon
- Ken Anderson
- Doug Williams
- Jeff Hostetler
- Mark Rypien
- Brad Johnson
- Trent Dilfer
There are very few Jim Kellys of the world that had the QB talent, the O-Lines and defense talent and still couldnt get it done as a team.
Gannon had a very good offensive line. He didnt lose his SuperBowl for lack of O-Line. He lost his chances due to Siragusa’s hit, the Tuck Rule, and missing Barret Robbins/treason by Callahan.
I dont know why you argue with me 99. You get killed every time.
August 24th, 2012 at 10:29 am
This “defense wins championships” debate is outdated.
Wasn’t last year’s Super Bowl between the 30th and 27th ranked defenses?
But two top 5 offenses?
August 24th, 2012 at 10:29 am
Show me one SuperBowl team that didnt have a very good offensive line?
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Steelers, admittadly BY THEM, sucked at O-line.
Their words, not mine.
August 24th, 2012 at 10:31 am
RAIDERMAN99 Says: Besides Marino, which great QBs never won a SB? Fouts?//////////// Yes, Fouts. I Think Jim Kelly repped 4 times for Buffalo. Mediocres winning SB’s…Dilfer for sure and…..don’t jump down my throat, people ’cause I was there at the LA Col, and I loved the guy, but statistically Plunkett just above average. Started looking really good the year 49er Stover basically ended his career. I was there that day. Don’t think Stover even got a penalty.
August 24th, 2012 at 10:33 am
Show me one SuperBowl team that didnt have a very good offensive line?
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Steelers, admittadly BY THEM, sucked at O-line.
Their words, not mine.
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Yeah, but I would have taken those guys over some of the Raiders O-Line we had in the past 10 years. If they sucked, what would you say about our elite LT K. Harris?
August 24th, 2012 at 10:34 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 10:29 am
Show me one SuperBowl team that didnt have a very good offensive line?
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Steelers, admittadly BY THEM, sucked at O-line.
Their words, not mine.
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Do you really think the Steelers deserve those titles? The Seahawk game seemed rigged.
And when Kurt Warner threw that pick at the end of the half, he was blatantly blocked in the back on the run back.
Both those games are anomolys if you ask me. And if they are your only example, my argument still stands.
August 24th, 2012 at 10:35 am
Colts won a Super Bowl with a LT, who was a 6th round pick at TE, learned the LT position for a year, and then won a Super Bowl.
August 24th, 2012 at 10:35 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 10:29 am
This “defense wins championships” debate is outdated.
Wasn’t last year’s Super Bowl between the 30th and 27th ranked defenses?
But two top 5 offenses?
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GB’s D is loaded with talent. They gave up yards because they played with large leads.
Do I really need to list the talent on that D for you? I doubt it. Youre a smart guy here. You know that D is stacked and VERY good.
August 24th, 2012 at 10:38 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 10:35 am
Colts won a Super Bowl with a LT, who was a 6th round pick at TE, learned the LT position for a year, and then won a Super Bowl.
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The Colts were not the better team that day. They won the game, but because the Bears gave the game away.
Next time they replay that game on NFL network watch it and tell me the Colts didnt get lucky as all heck.
Without the rain/Rex’s small hands, the Bears easily win that game.
August 24th, 2012 at 10:38 am
GB didn’t play in the Super Bowl.
Giants were the highest scoring 4th quarter team in the NFL, because generally, their D gave up a zillion passing yards and a lot of points.
August 24th, 2012 at 10:39 am
So every answer is that the game was rigged or the opponent blew it??
LOL….Come one man!!!!!
August 24th, 2012 at 10:41 am
Riff, you’re a freaking moron and your football knowledge could fit in a thimble.
Joe Namath and Bradshaw were average QB’s but Rich Gannon was great ? LMAO.
I guess that’s what happens when you judge a QB by STATS only.
If as you say, Rich Gannon was so great and he had a great OL, then why didn’t he win a SB ?
You’re going to have to come up with something better than the absurd ‘treason’ story you keep referring to.
Are you seriously going to tell this blog that Callahan dumped the SB intentionally in some sort of act of treason ?
How’d the great Rich Gannon allow this treasonous act to occur ?
August 24th, 2012 at 10:42 am
I’m not saying O-line isn’t important, every position is important.
I would say O-line is more important than RB, and D-line is the 2nd most important position in the NFL.
The NFL is a changed league now. Teams are going to the Super Bowl with either an average to below average defense, or average to below average O-line.
They don’t get their with average to below-average QB’s.
August 24th, 2012 at 10:47 am
@Just Fire Baby
Kevin Kolb? Looked pretty good in Philly, not so much now? You don’t think a team can be loaded with talent can make a below average QB look really good? Seemed like Tommy Maddox was pretty good for a couple years?
August 24th, 2012 at 10:47 am
Riff:
Would you put Unitas in the category of great QBs who DIDN’T win a Super Bowl, or Earl Morral in the category of average QBs who DID win a Super Bowl?
August 24th, 2012 at 10:48 am
Just look at the drafts these days.
Teams are spending top picks on edge rushers, QB, WR’s and DB’s.
The 3rd best Center prospect might last until the 4th round, same with OG’s. Meanwhile 15 corners will be taken before them.
August 24th, 2012 at 10:50 am
Riff, if you asked every GM in the NFL to pick any player to build a team around, how many do you think would select an offensive lineman ?
How many would take a QB ?
If you had to select one player today to start your team with, who would you take ?
August 24th, 2012 at 10:50 am
Raidertbone Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 10:47 am
Riff:
Would you put Unitas in the category of great QBs who DIDN’T win a Super Bowl, or Earl Morral in the category of average QBs who DID win a Super Bowl?
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Morral and Unitas both won Super Bowls.
August 24th, 2012 at 10:51 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 10:39 am
So every answer is that the game was rigged or the opponent blew it??
LOL….Come one man!!!!!
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No, just in those select cases where the exception to the rule applies.
Bottom line is that a great QB isnt as important as a great O-Line or Defense. In all but 3-4 cases (that have obvious question marks), my stance holds true.
1/3 of all the SuperBowls won were done by average QBs.
But if you look at dang near every SuperBowl won, the Defense is very good if not the strength of the teams (ie the Steelers of the 70s, the Cowboys dynasties, the Dolpins of the 70s).
The best example is the Griese Dolphins vs the Marino Dolphins. Another great example is Elway. He was always great. But could never get it done until he had a O-Line and a D behind him. And to boot, they played in a WCO that made his rocket arm not needed.
No QB has done it on his own. Thiesman had the Hogs, Stabler had the greatest Oline in history, Staubach had a GREAT D, Bradshaw had the Steel Curtain, Aikman had a GREAT D.
You can find exceptions to every rule if you search hard enough. Im not showing you the exceptions to the rules to prove my point, Im showing you obvious trends.
August 24th, 2012 at 10:51 am
Add Jim Hart, Ron Jaworski, and John Brodie to the list of great QBs to never win a Super Bowl.
August 24th, 2012 at 10:51 am
Kolb in Philly had 12 total TD’s and 19 total turnovers, and was last seen getting hurt in the season opener over there.
Not sure what you watched.
August 24th, 2012 at 10:54 am
Kolb looked horrible last night! Whisenhunt now has a dilemma – who to start at quarterback: Worse or Even Worser!
August 24th, 2012 at 10:54 am
Riff,
I am talking present day stuff, the 70’s don’t count for the argument of what wins in 2013.
Absolutely a beast D was the way to back then.
The obvious trend is that elite QB’s are going to Super Bowls, and elite D’s are losing in their conference championships.
Fact.
August 24th, 2012 at 10:54 am
RAIDERMAN99 Says: Are you seriously going to tell this blog that Callahan dumped the SB intentionally in some sort of act of treason ?/////////////Tim Brown is on the record with exactly that assertion. Not that I am agreeing with much else riff is saying.
August 24th, 2012 at 10:54 am
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 10:50 am
Riff, if you asked every GM in the NFL to pick any player to build a team around, how many do you think would select an offensive lineman ?
How many would take a QB ?
If you had to select one player today to start your team with, who would you take ?
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I dont believe that any SINGLE lineman is more important than a QB. As a whole, the line is more important. But not one player.
I might, and I strongly stress MIGHT, take a DE over a QB. Charlie Casserly did it with Mario Williams and that proved to be the right move to start a franchise on the right path.
QB’s take so long to develop. DE’s are less risky.
It’s a tough choice.
Seriously, I would probably take a young dominant DE over a top flight QB if you twisted my arm for an answer. I love Aaron Rogers and Eli but I also know they have some very good help. Jay Cutler is very good and we see what a poor OLine can make him look like.
Which DE would I take? Let me think about that for a minute.
August 24th, 2012 at 10:56 am
Jay Cutler is very good and we see what a poor OLine can make him look like
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Didn’t they go the conference championship?
And have the better defense, but lost to the better QB?
August 24th, 2012 at 10:56 am
I don’t think Callahan is calculating enough to plan something like that. He simply got smoked by a better coach and a better game plan.
August 24th, 2012 at 10:56 am
Kolb in Philly had 12 total TD’s and 19 total turnovers, and was last seen getting hurt in the season opener over there.
Not sure what you watched.
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True, but it was a vast conpiracy! But, c’mon a lot people hyped him up and that he was going to be a great QB. Big contract?
August 24th, 2012 at 10:57 am
Purvisman Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 10:54 am
Tim Brown is on the record with exactly that assertion. Not that I am agreeing with much else riff is saying.
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Link, please.
August 24th, 2012 at 10:58 am
Kolb was hyped up for his two starts in 09, but he had 4 TD’s to 4 turnovers (3 INT’s, 1 lost fumble) that year.
2010, 7 TD’s to 10 turnovers.
Not sure what everyone was smoking with him, but like I said the other day, I called him the next Scott Mitchell, and I didn’t mean to insult Scott Mitchell that way.
August 24th, 2012 at 10:59 am
And Matt Flynn will be the next Kevin Kolb, maybe just a tad better.
August 24th, 2012 at 10:59 am
Kolb was hyped up for his two starts in 09, but he had 4 TD’s to 4 turnovers (3 INT’s, 1 lost fumble) that year.
2010, 7 TD’s to 10 turnovers.
Not sure what everyone was smoking with him, but like I said the other day, I called him the next Scott Mitchell, and I didn’t mean to insult Scott Mitchell that way.
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White Flag!
August 24th, 2012 at 10:59 am
Rank of importance for team success:
QB
Head Coach or outstanding DC/OC.
DL
OL
playmaker on offense (can be WR or RB, doesn’t matter).
CB
LB
Great QBs make their O-lines look better than they are (Colts, Steelers, Patriots) by getting rid of the ball quickly, making slide-protection calls, changing plays, etc.
August 24th, 2012 at 11:01 am
And last years Super Bowl winner, had the lowest yards per carry of any team in the last 4 years.
Dead last in rushing, which by correlation clearly states they weren’t very good up front.
No worries. Great QB, elite WR’s, great D-line, and everything else is just a movable part.
August 24th, 2012 at 11:01 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 10:54 am
Riff,
I am talking present day stuff, the 70’s don’t count for the argument of what wins in 2013.
Absolutely a beast D was the way to back then.
The obvious trend is that elite QB’s are going to Super Bowls, and elite D’s are losing in their conference championships.
Fact.
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Very valid point.
And I guess as long as they keep changing the rules to protect WR’s and QB’s then those positions become more and more important.
That is why the D-line is so important. They can still take the game over.
If we want to examine the last 12 years we can.
August 24th, 2012 at 11:02 am
The Eagles netted a 1st-round CB (Cromartie), two 2nd-round picks, and a 3rd round pick for Kolb and McNabb.
Someone received a raise.
August 24th, 2012 at 11:02 am
Kolb in Philly had 12 total TD’s and 19 total turnovers, and was last seen getting hurt in the season opener over there.
Not sure what you watched.
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Kolb getting injured that day against GB cost me money.
Bet that game UNDER at the half. GB was up by a TD and content to just run, run, run, since the Eagles couldn’t move the ball at all with Kevin Knob at the helm.
Knob gets injured, Vick comes in, Beagles score and now Rodgers starts showing why he’s the best in the game.
Game flew over.
It was so obvious that Kevin Knob sucked. Can’t believe Az traded for that scrub.
August 24th, 2012 at 11:04 am
Raidertbone Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 10:56 am
I don’t think Callahan is calculating enough to plan something like that. He simply got smoked by a better coach and a better game plan.
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The players have said that the game plan mysteriously changed just a few days before the game.
They prepped for nearly 2 weeks and then things changed all of a sudden.
In the 2nd half, when we started to come back, the players had revolted and went back to the old gameplan.
Heres one link I keep on hand…
http://www.fantasysharks.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=260586
August 24th, 2012 at 11:04 am
Alex7 Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 11:02 am
The Eagles netted a 1st-round CB (Cromartie), two 2nd-round picks, and a 3rd round pick for Kolb and McNabb.
Someone received a raise.
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That would be Andy Reid, for taking a chance on Vick, which enabled them to dump those other two guys.
August 24th, 2012 at 11:05 am
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
It was so obvious that Kevin Knob sucked. Can’t believe Az traded for that scrub.
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Andy Reid is a genius with QB’s. He makes them all look way better than they are.
August 24th, 2012 at 11:06 am
If we want to examine the last 12 years we can.
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Off to eat, but I will check back in and definitely examine with you in an hour or so.
I do agree with your D-line stance. If you can make the opposing team have to move their feet in the backfield (RB on a run, QB in the pocket) that is gold.
When you have a crappy D-line, the RB is in 3rd gear as he passes the LOS, and the LB’s and DB’s have little chance.
And I always feel a great D-line beats a great DOline, 8 out of 10 times. Not everytime, but most of the time.
Just like good pitching almost always beat good hitting in the baseball postseason. Not every year, but most years.
August 24th, 2012 at 11:14 am
And I always feel a great D-line beats a great DOline, 8 out of 10 times. Not everytime, but most of the time.
Just like good pitching almost always beat good hitting in the baseball postseason. Not every year, but most years.
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Good analogy.
One notable exception – Shell, Uppy and the great Raider OLine OBLITERATING the Eller, Page, Marshall and the vaunted Purple People Eaters.
Sweeeet !
August 24th, 2012 at 11:16 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 11:06 am
If we want to examine the last 12 years we can.
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Off to eat, but I will check back in and definitely examine with you in an hour or so.
I do agree with your D-line stance. If you can make the opposing team have to move their feet in the backfield (RB on a run, QB in the pocket) that is gold.
When you have a crappy D-line, the RB is in 3rd gear as he passes the LOS, and the LB’s and DB’s have little chance.
And I always feel a great D-line beats a great DOline, 8 out of 10 times. Not everytime, but most of the time.
Just like good pitching almost always beat good hitting in the baseball postseason. Not every year, but most years.
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Definitely! A great D should always beat a great O the majority of the time. One requires execution (low probability) and one just requires sound scheme and hustle (very consistent).
That is why if you want to tell me that a D-Line is more important than a O-Line, you wont see me put up much of a argument against you. Its nearly a wash.
August 24th, 2012 at 11:20 am
The Colts were not the better team that day. They won the game, but because the Bears gave the game away.
Next time they replay that game on NFL network watch it and tell me the Colts didnt get lucky as all heck.
Without the rain/Rex’s small hands, the Bears easily win that game.
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So the superior Bear team lost to the better QB huh ?
August 24th, 2012 at 11:20 am
Alex7 Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 11:02 am
The Eagles netted a 1st-round CB (Cromartie), two 2nd-round picks, and a 3rd round pick for Kolb and McNabb.
Someone received a raise.
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they also got a second round pick for a.j feeley from miami in 2004.
August 24th, 2012 at 11:20 am
Raider Riff Says: Heres one link I keep on hand… http://www.fantasysharks.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=260586 /////////////////////////There you go Duckman. Raider Riff would have saved me all that work if I had waited a few minutes.
August 24th, 2012 at 11:23 am
riff
you could start your team with jason pierre paul
August 24th, 2012 at 11:29 am
That is why if you want to tell me that a D-Line is more important than a O-Line, you wont see me put up much of a argument against you. Its nearly a wash.
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Yep, I’d agree it’s a close call.
I’d hazard to say a that a really excellent QB can make an offense hum without a great OLine easier than a defense can be dominating without a superb DLine.
In all the years I’ve been rooting for the Raids, I can truthfully say we’ve never had a truly dominating defense.
We’ve run into some dominating defenses, most notably the Steelers, and that cost us several championships.
August 24th, 2012 at 11:32 am
Bunk Moorland Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 11:23 am
riff
you could start your team with jason pierre paul
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Honestly, the more I think about it, unless its a Reggie White caliber talent, I would probably trade out of the 1st round if the league started over tomorrow and I was a GM with a top 10 draft pick.
Trade out of 1st and 2nd rounds and LOAD UP on 3rd rounders. Build a solid D and O line in one swift sweep.
Most GMs would waste their 1st and 2nds on the top QB’s, WR’s and CB’s. By the time the 3rd round comes, a team that trades away its 1st and 2nd round picks could have 5 or more picks in the 3rd round. And their would be PLENTY of talented O and D line players left to pick up.
Build from the inside out.
August 24th, 2012 at 11:43 am
Raider Riff Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 11:32 am
Bunk Moorland Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 11:23 am
riff
you could start your team with jason pierre paul
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Honestly, the more I think about it, unless its a Reggie White caliber talent, I would probably trade out of the 1st round if the league started over tomorrow and I was a GM with a top 10 draft pick.
Trade out of 1st and 2nd rounds and LOAD UP on 3rd rounders. Build a solid D and O line in one swift sweep.
Most GMs would waste their 1st and 2nds on the top QB’s, WR’s and CB’s. By the time the 3rd round comes, a team that trades away its 1st and 2nd round picks could have 5 or more picks in the 3rd round. And their would be PLENTY of talented O and D line players left to pick up.
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Nice pick , i live in philadelphia ( upper darby) the “minister of defence” is a legend around here. Also brett farve would not have a superbowl without him.
August 24th, 2012 at 11:44 am
Purvisman Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 11:20 am
Raider Riff Says: Heres one link I keep on hand… http://www.fantasysharks.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=260586 /////////////////////////There you go Duckman. Raider Riff would have saved me all that work if I had waited a few minutes.
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Some may argue what Callahan’s true intentions were, but nobody can argue the fact that we changed our game plan and the details surrounding it.
Furthermore, we were loaded to try and get back to the SuperBowl the next season when Callahan did even worse 2 weeks prior to the season starting. He completely scrapped the entire playbook and cadence/language system and installed an entirely new system that the players had very little time to learn.
Its an ugly turn of events that nobody here wants to believe happened. You can draw whatever conclusions your heart desires, but you cannot ignore the factual accounts of what went down.
I hate Callahan about as much as I hate Shanahan and Shottenheimer. Maybe more.
August 24th, 2012 at 11:49 am
Well Riff, the Sullen1 and KK would blame Al Davis for making Callahan hate him Hah.
August 24th, 2012 at 11:54 am
My Beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeyotches!
August 24th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
Purvisman Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 11:49 am
Well Riff, the Sullen1 and KK would blame Al Davis for making Callahan hate him Hah.
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Sully and KK are about as dumb as it gets. But can you blame them for being mad at Al?
The fact of the matter is, if we keep Bruce Allen and Gruden with the org, we probably win 2 SuperBowls last decade. Al should have paid them whatever was needed.
Al’s eye for talent and Gruden’s leadership within a dysfunctional franchise were a perfect match for each other. Those two may have fought like he11 but they were made for each other. Ive read articles where former Gruden players said that Gruden always wanted to come back and coach for us fans and even for Al again. Chucky was made for us. It was really fun with him on the sideline.
There were mistakes made, all the way around by all parties. And if they could all do it differently, I think they would.
It makes me so sad to think about. We Raider Nation got so robbed in so many ways. Bo Jackson, Marinovich, the Tuck Game, trading Gruden, the Callahan incident…. it literally hurts to think about. The last 20 years have been rough.
Al should have died the winningest owner of all time. We left about 4 SuperBowls on the table.
August 24th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
Those days when all the Chucky dolls were being waived…
And Gannon imposed so much fear into the opposing teams….
With Gruden yelling at the refs like they stole his kids lunch money…..
And Al up in the box still coherent enough to follow the game……
I had my season tix in the Black Hole back then. Section 105 row 11.
The Coliseum would really rock back then. Nobody wanted to play against us there. NOBODY.
August 24th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
There was only a week between the AFC Championship game and our Super Bowl vs the Bucs.
So ANYTHING that Callahan did would have been done “just a few days before the Super Bowl.”
/conspiracy theory.
August 24th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
So why do it?
August 24th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
You are correct. Only 7 days to prepare.
But youre still ignoring the fact that the gameplan was changed 2 days before the game. With no time left to practice anything.
It makes no sense.
August 24th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
Raider Riff: Agreed! I miss Jerry. Can’t stand Cork, but have to follow him for his news. How can such a lame-o have a job in media? C’est la vie.
August 24th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
# Silverandblack666 Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 9:09 am
yeah it does you can’t read some of it.
They have not fixed it because its a low priority for them.
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Use a Firefox browser, right click on the chat window, choose ‘This Frame’-Choose-’Show only this Frame’ and it will be viewable in all of its glory… Lame Bully Building Comments and all…
August 24th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
And he did the same thing again prior to the ‘03 season only more drastic.
We went into the season opener against Tennessee and barley knew the playbook. We should have stomped them. We lost.
Is it any wonder the players revolted during the season and quit on the coach?
August 24th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
Cork just admitted to not watching much exhibition football.
hahaha, WHAT EXACTLY DOES THIS GUY DO?
August 24th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
Bunk Moorland Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 11:43 am
Raider Riff Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 11:32 am
Bunk Moorland Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 11:23 am
riff
you could start your team with jason pierre paul
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Honestly, the more I think about it, unless its a Reggie White caliber talent, I would probably trade out of the 1st round if the league started over tomorrow and I was a GM with a top 10 draft pick.
Trade out of 1st and 2nd rounds and LOAD UP on 3rd rounders. Build a solid D and O line in one swift sweep.
Most GMs would waste their 1st and 2nds on the top QB’s, WR’s and CB’s. By the time the 3rd round comes, a team that trades away its 1st and 2nd round picks could have 5 or more picks in the 3rd round. And their would be PLENTY of talented O and D line players left to pick up.
Build from the inside out.—————————–
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Nice pick , i live in philadelphia ( upper darby) the “minister of defence” is a legend around here. Also brett farve would not have a superbowl without him.
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How fun would it be to get 32 of the semis on Madden online to do a fantasy draft. Then post all the rosters here and debate who has the better GM skills?
It would be hilarious.
August 24th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
Another idea I thought would be funny is if we got together a group of us semis and we invaded another teams blog.
How fun would it to be for like 20 or 30 of us to blitzkrieg a Chiefs blog. We could all go sign up and pretend to be Chiefs fans, and then just completely rip the the Chiefs apart and start a total mess of their board.
Take our blogs best trolls and go unleash them all on a Donkey blog. A total coordinated attack. It would be hilarious.
We could do it each week to the team we are playing against….
….who’d be down for something like this?
August 24th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
Ment to ask if anybody on here is going to the baltimore game. Ill be there wearing my eric turner jersey. The last time we player there i wore it and they gave me diplomatic immunity.
August 24th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
Raider Riff Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
Another idea I thought would be funny is if we got together a group of us semis and we invaded another teams blog.
How fun would it to be for like 20 or 30 of us to blitzkrieg a Chiefs blog. We could all go sign up and pretend to be Chiefs fans, and then just completely rip the the Chiefs apart and start a total mess of their board.
Take our blogs best trolls and go unleash them all on a Donkey blog. A total coordinated attack. It would be hilarious.
We could do it each week to the team we are playing against….
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absolutly, im in. whats the denver blog
August 24th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
How old are you dude, 10? 12? Trolls do that on NFL.com when I want to talk Raider football and it sucks.
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Raider Riff Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
Another idea I thought would be funny is if we got together a group of us semis and we invaded another teams blog.
How fun would it to be for like 20 or 30 of us to blitzkrieg a Chiefs blog. We could all go sign up and pretend to be Chiefs fans, and then just completely rip the the Chiefs apart and start a total mess of their board.
Take our blogs best trolls and go unleash them all on a Donkey blog. A total coordinated attack. It would be hilarious.
We could do it each week to the team we are playing against….
….who’d be down for something like this?
August 24th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
Raidernationdave Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
Trolls do that on NFL.com when I want to talk Raider football and it sucks.
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Exactly why it would be fun to do to Chief and Bronco fans.
And yes, I have the sense of humor of a 10 year old, maybe younger.
August 24th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
Someone just asked Cork if he’d ever leave for the NFL Network or BSPN. Cork answered the question seriously.
HAHAHAHAHAHA… Cork doesnt have the work ethic to serve food in the BSPN cafeteria let alone work for the network.
August 24th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
Im sitting here drinking a good ipa, little kb and jamming to grateful dead, laughting at people who are so mean they insult others. Is it so hard that if you dont like what someone says to ignore them?
August 24th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
I miss a good IPA. A great beer.
August 24th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
WE bumrushed the PFT comment section when KoolKell tried to defect on us once, lol.
August 24th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
Raider Riff Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
Someone just asked Cork if he’d ever leave for the NFL Network or BSPN. Cork answered the question seriously.
HAHAHAHAHAHA… Cork doesnt have the work ethic to serve food in the BSPN cafeteria let alone work for the network.
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How hard can ESPN be when Stephen A. Smith, of all people, can find steady work there?
August 24th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
well there is an hour of my life I will never get back. Love the live chat though, where else can you get such thought provoking questions such as “If the Raiders finish 8-8 again, where do they focus their top picks on in the draft. CB, NT, QB, TE?” Good God get a clue and let’s not think so far ahead. How in the hell is cork supposed to reply to that question. Freakin tard
August 24th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
It kinda irks me when trolls come to this board with nothing pertinent to add good or bad to the discussion. I agree that a coordinated ‘attack’ is pretty immature and begs the question, “are you really that bored? Does that give you an “LOL” reaction? Is that funny, cuz I don’t get it at all. I come to talk Raiders and if I was a Bronco or Chief fan I’d not come here to discuss them. Seriously messed up idea. Lets keep the discussion of Raider football above board guys. TIA
August 24th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
I suspect Cork was being a bit sarcastic again
Cork will you be our writer for at least the next 20 years? You will not leave us for ESPN or NFL network…will ya?
In it for the long haul. Won’t quit until we get this bully built and the Raiders win a Super Bowl again.
August 24th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
TIA? This is Africa?
August 24th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
Seriously guys, a coach would have to be insane to intentionally lose a Super Bowl under ANY circumstances. Winning a SB is one of the greatest acheivements in sports for coaches, and carries with it probably the highest accolades.
I can’t imagine him watching the Super Bowl at home every year and telling his wife…”I coulda had one of those Lombardi’s but I least I taught Al Davis a lesson”. You don’t deny your legacy like that, and if he did actuall throw it..it would one of the most heinous things in history of sports. Worse than steroid use. At least the streroid guys are trying to win.
NO WAY.
Unless Callahan is a total nutcase..which i guess is possible.
August 24th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
Aaron Murray, Georgia QB, our 2013 1st round pick. Write that down!!!
by The JFB 1:02 PM
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I like Tyler Wilson or Matt Barkley in the 1st…I think Murray will be there in the 2nd maybe even 3rd RD.
August 24th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
It’s stupid. Grow the fck up.
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Raider Riff Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
Raidernationdave Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
Trolls do that on NFL.com when I want to talk Raider football and it sucks.
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Exactly why it would be fun to do to Chief and Bronco fans.
And yes, I have the sense of humor of a 10 year old, maybe younger.
August 24th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
Seriously guys, a coach would have to be insane to intentionally lose a Super Bowl under ANY circumstances. Winning a SB is one of the greatest acheivements in sports for coaches, and carries with it probably the highest accolades.
I can’t imagine him watching the Super Bowl at home every year and telling his wife…”I coulda had one of those Lombardi’s but I least I taught Al Davis a lesson”. You don’t deny your legacy like that, and if he did actuall throw it..it would one of the most heinous things in history of sports. Worse than steroid use. At least the streroid guys are trying to win.
NO WAY.
Unless Callahan is a total nutcase..which i guess is possible.
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It would be absolutely insane. For all the reasons you suggested.
But it still doesnt explain why he did the things he did. You tell me what his motive was? We know what Tim Brown thinks it was.
How many times have we seen Al Davis do something crazy in the name of vindictiveness? Plenty. And in many of those cases, it ended up hurting us and his legacy. Does the name Marcus Allen ring a bell?
August 24th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
Thanks for the back-up.
I don’t understand what benefit it is to do that to the opposition’s fans.
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Guest123 Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
It kinda irks me when trolls come to this board with nothing pertinent to add good or bad to the discussion. I agree that a coordinated ‘attack’ is pretty immature and begs the question, “are you really that bored? Does that give you an “LOL” reaction? Is that funny, cuz I don’t get it at all. I come to talk Raiders and if I was a Bronco or Chief fan I’d not come here to discuss them. Seriously messed up idea. Lets keep the discussion of Raider football above board guys. TIA
August 24th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
I think Steve got 2 of my questions in, and my Aaron Murray comment.
I asked about 7 questions on DVD’s roster spot, and if he was playing for his spot tomorrow.
Crickets, unfortunately.
August 24th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
I asked about 7 questions on DVD’s roster spot, and if he was playing for his spot tomorrow.
Crickets, unfortunately.
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I’d asked about that earlier in the chat. He said Reggie and DA would be reluctant to give up on DVD this early (second year).
August 24th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
Raidernationdave Says:
I don’t understand what benefit it is to do that to the opposition’s fans.
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No benefit. It’s just funny. It’s having fun at another teams fan-base’s expense.
If you dont find it funny, oh well. I do. I like Howard Stern, spoof calling, and all sorts of pranks. You got a different sense of humor, that is fine. You dont have to participate. Its no big deal.
Call me immature all you want. I wear it like a badge of honor. I hope I never get so old that I cant find the humor in stuff.
August 24th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
Kind of humorous reading how many of you believe that Cork or Jerry should spend a lot of time on this blog.
It’s a blog. This is an after thought. It’s to basically post info most already know, in order for fans to interact.
Nothing more.
August 24th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
I like Tyler Wilson or Matt Barkley in the 1st…I think Murray will be there in the 2nd maybe even 3rd RD.
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Every year now, the draft has these QB’s move way up and get picked early.
Murray, playing in the SEC and being a 3 year starter, will move up the boards, IMO, and will be a perfect pick for us in the 17-22 range (where I think we will be picking).
Good WCO fit for us as well.
August 24th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
I’d asked about that earlier in the chat. He said Reggie and DA would be reluctant to give up on DVD this early (second year).
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Thanks, Duck!!! To lazy to scroll through all the initial comments.
Reluctant to give up, eh? Well let’s hope DVD doesn’t poop the bed again and give them something to think about.
August 24th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
Raider Riff Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
Raidernationdave Says:
I don’t understand what benefit it is to do that to the opposition’s fans.
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No benefit. It’s just funny. It’s having fun at another teams fan-base’s expense.
If you dont find it funny, oh well. I do. I like Howard Stern, spoof calling, and all sorts of pranks. You got a different sense of humor, that is fine. You dont have to participate. Its no big deal.
Call me immature all you want. I wear it like a badge of honor. I hope I never get so old that I cant find the humor in stuff.
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So, what you’re saying is you still enjoy prank phone calls? Yelling goofy stuff out car windows? Acting like the dopey kid on other teams blogs?
When you get out of your teens you’ll look back and say “I was pretty dopey back then.”
I mean, seriously? A whole group go on to other sites, acting like stupid kids?
Now is when you giggle.
August 24th, 2012 at 1:28 pm
Im well out of my teens. But other than that, you got me figured out.
August 24th, 2012 at 1:28 pm
I kinda do think Jerry and Cork do read this blog, or at least scan thru it from time to time. Else, why would they write posts that seem to be rebuttals of numerous blog posts that collectively form consensus opinion. Go back and look at the outrage at Jacoby Ford’s first game and then Cork trying to reassure the fans that the Ford/Palmer connection is fine and nothing to worry about. I don’t think the rebuttal to the blog is mere coincidence.
August 24th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
Maybe a better question is, how old are you, Riff?
All evidence says 15-17.
Am I close?
August 24th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
Guest123 Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 1:28 pm
I kinda do think Jerry and Cork do read this blog, or at least scan thru it from time to time. Else, why would they write posts that seem to be rebuttals of numerous blog posts that collectively form consensus opinion. Go back and look at the outrage at Jacoby Ford’s first game and then Cork trying to reassure the fans that the Ford/Palmer connection is fine and nothing to worry about. I don’t think the rebuttal to the blog is mere coincidence.
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Agreed 100%
August 24th, 2012 at 1:31 pm
RaiderRob Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
Maybe a better question is, how old are you, Riff?
All evidence says 15-17.
Am I close?
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Not even close. But they say, “youre only as old as the girl youre f’ing” so maybe you are close.
August 24th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
Jerry used to read some of the comments, not sure about Steve.
Jerry also emailed me back one time saying he was positive that Raiders organization members read his blog and comments, and wouldn’t completely back away from thinking they commented as well.
I miss Jerry.
August 24th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
“youre only as old as the girl youre f’ing”
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Dammit, bad news for our buddy R8ERMIKE!!!!
August 24th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
And bad news for me, for marrying a cougar!!!!
August 24th, 2012 at 1:35 pm
I think Steve reads them too. But not quite as avid a reader as Jerry. But I don’t blame Steve because there are huge 12 hour blocks of political nonsense or race baiting that kills the interest. Not sure if it was always like this, but if so then Jerry must be a very very patient man.
August 24th, 2012 at 1:36 pm
And good news for me. I robbed the cradle!
August 24th, 2012 at 1:36 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
Jerry used to read some of the comments, not sure about Steve.
Jerry also emailed me back one time saying he was positive that Raiders organization members read his blog and comments, and wouldn’t completely back away from thinking they commented as well.
I miss Jerry.
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Some of the people at contracosta are really awesome. I emailed the editor once and we had an excellent conversation of emails going. After a while, it read like just two members of this blog talking about the Raiders.
He answered all my questions and was super sincere.
August 24th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
It used to be worse in a sense without registration.
But in all serious, how many people actually read the comments after around 11pm? Or at least only stop if Lefty12 or RIff or someone regular is posting.
August 24th, 2012 at 1:39 pm
I pretty much stop reading anything after 4PM all the way to 4AM. That’s the dead zone for me.
August 24th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
I’m only online now because I’m stuck at the airport on my way back home and killing time.
August 24th, 2012 at 1:41 pm
Guest123 Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 1:39 pm
I pretty much stop reading anything after 4PM all the way to 4AM. That’s the dead zone for me.
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I think JFB was referring to the moderators reading. He was suggesting that once they see the regulars in a discussion, they probably tune out because this place in all honesty, does a pretty good job of policing itself.
Most forums require an excessive amount of moderation to keep things civil.
August 24th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
EsPN has a top 100 uniforms.
Athletics = 8
Raiders = 13
Warriors = 20
August 24th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
Noway are A’s better than Raiders! Raiders should be in top 5.
August 24th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
Exactly what time is the game gents? I do not see it on the schedule ESPN in Utah anyway
August 24th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
I like reading previous nights comments in the morning. It is super entertaining sometimes.
August 24th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
Born in Oak, raised in Hayward and no I don’t have 3 wives so don’t even ask lol
August 24th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
Johhny Utah, the game starts at 7pm Eastern time.
August 24th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
If a man can marry a man and a woman can marry a woman, why cant a two women marry the same man?
makes no sense to say women have enough sense to work, vote, fight, marry men or women, but two of them cant marry the same man?
August 24th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
The yellow A’s jersey are sweet, but the roadies are pretty boring, so are the green top ones.
The Warriors have the best jerseys out of all the local teams, IMO.
August 24th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
“youre only as old as the girl youre f’ing”
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Dammit, bad news for our buddy R8ERMIKE!!!!
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
ROFLMAO
Long Live The ODB!
August 24th, 2012 at 1:58 pm
I wish my free NFL Sunday Ticket would air the game tomorrow
August 24th, 2012 at 1:58 pm
What is up with the chat format? How do you read the stuff cut off on the right side?
August 24th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
http://espn.go.com/espn/playbook/story/_/id/8295892/uni-watch-power-rankings-rates-nfl-mlb-nba-nhl-uniforms-1-122
August 24th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
Tax laws are an issue with multiple spouses, same with same sex stuff.
You got community property loopholes that can be exploited. Bunch of old rich dudes passing on life insurance proceeds tax-free, college-girls getting “married” to get more Pelle Grant money, military people getting married to live on base and get more money.
Slippery slope.
August 24th, 2012 at 2:01 pm
I like Corky.
August 24th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
I’ve always liked the yellow/green color scheme of the A’s. Never really got into the team, but liked the colors.
Silver and Black? Awesome colors and can’t be improved upon imo.
August 24th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
Klas wants to see a White Man Can’t Jump reboot with Seth Rogen and T.O.
August 24th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
What is up with the chat format? How do you read the stuff cut off on the right side?
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Best way is to go to the Mercury News site.
http://www.mercurynews.com/raiders/ci_21383844/live-chat-oakland-raiders-friday-at-noon
August 24th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
RaiderRob Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
Maybe a better question is, how old are you, Riff?
All evidence says 15-17.
Am I close?
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LOL.
August 24th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
Klas Tjorborn Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
I like reading previous nights comments in the morning. It is super entertaining sometimes
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Yeah, why not. You have a sense of humor. Alot of guys don’t.
In fact a lot of guys actually get mad at anyone joking aorund, or if it doesn’t jive with their brand of humor.
Some hold themselves in way too high regard as if thier opinion matters so damn much.
August 24th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
Not sure why the cutoff on the chat is such an issue.
I mean, can’t you figure out what is by reading the entire sentence? It is either not an issue, or easy to understand the point, on 99% of the comments.
August 24th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
We need to tax businesses more and people less.
I hate Taxes.
August 24th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
Klas Tjorborn Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
I like reading previous nights comments in the morning. It is super entertaining sometimes
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Yeah, why not. You have a sense of humor. Alot of guys don’t.
In fact a lot of guys actually get mad at anyone joking aorund, or if it doesn’t jive with their brand of humor.
Some hold themselves in way too high regard as if thier opinion matters so damn much.
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Some dudes think this a U.N. meeting.
August 24th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
Plunketthead Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
EsPN has a top 100 uniforms.
Athletics = 8
Raiders = 13
Warriors = 20
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The A’s are eighth?!
Just how many times can ESPN be wrong?
August 24th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
whats up guys…the ppl that read this on a constant basis know i rarely speak..but mannnn….the early posts about who wins superbowls….a great qb or a great o line doesnt guarantee u anything….its all about chemistry…leaders…and no matter what u think…a bit of luck…..great players with bad luck..ie the bills…didnt win….come on u peeps…the only thing u guys are doing is going in circles looking for answers or making points that arent true….
August 24th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
Guest123 Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
I’ve always liked the yellow/green color scheme of the A’s. Never really got into the team, but liked the colors.
Silver and Black? Awesome colors and can’t be improved upon imo.
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Honestly, we shoulda been #1 when it comes to the uni’s.
We’re the only team where our uni is probably responsible for over half of our fan base.
Our uniforms will NEVER change (same goes for the Celtics and Yankees, I dunno about anyone else)
Our uniforms actually represent what we are about better than any other uniform/team relationship. Being a Raider fan says something about who you are. It’s an attitude. A mantra. A philosophy.
There’s nothing cool about the Celtics uni’s but the tradition. Same for the Yanks. Our uni’s are way more than tradition.
But I wouldnt expect anything less from BSPN.
August 24th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
NYY unis are special too. Al learned a lot from the Yankees and their owner according to him. Al was business savvy.
August 24th, 2012 at 2:24 pm
Canadianraider posting in a free jazz style. Cool man.
August 24th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
Raider O Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
We need to tax businesses more and people less.
I hate Taxes.
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What is taxing businesses more going to really accomplish?
If you raise their cost of doing business, they simply cut their expenses (lay people off) or raise the cost of goods, thus raising the cost of living in this country.
The problem isnt the amount of tax revenue. Its the amount of spending. You could wipe away the deficit and give the government a 100 trillion head start and they’d find a way to mismanage it all in a heartbeat.
They got all the revenue they need. Think about it. In just sales tax alone they get nearly 9% of everything sold! That is a incredible amount.
The fact that they spend in on the military is their fault. Not the tax payers.
One thing you need to realize when talking tax revenue (and I think its relevant here) is that roughly 85% of all the revenue generated is from the top 5% of the income brackets (businesses and individuals). The money you or I pay into the tax pool is so insignificant we really shouldnt even consider ouselves “tax payers”. So any time you advocate raising taxes, you got to consider where than revenue will come from. It comes from the medium size and large businesses. And like I said earlier, they dont eat those costs, they just pass them back to us, thus raising the cost of living. Its a viscious cycle.
The answer is to get rid of all the ridiculous spending in Washington.
August 24th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
Raider O Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
NYY unis are special too. Al learned a lot from the Yankees and their owner according to him. Al was business savvy.
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Youre right. But they are about the only uni that you can say would be ranked above us and I wouldnt complain.
August 24th, 2012 at 2:28 pm
Man, I wish that Saturday game was earlier.
Over here that game comes on in the middle of the night.
There are other things to be doing in the middle of the night.
August 24th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
Raider O Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
NYY unis are special too. Al learned a lot from the Yankees and their owner according to him. Al was business savvy.
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God bless Al and fuk the Yankees-but fuk the Dodgers more.
How you doing O?
I read that you gave up the car business.
August 24th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 2:28 pm
Man, I wish that Saturday game was earlier.
Over here that game comes on in the middle of the night.
There are other things to be doing in the middle of the night.
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Aint that the truth. Im in Italy. WIFI here blows so watching the game on my MacBook is a pain.
I will admit though, the NFL’s GamePass for people overseas is really cool. Do you have it?
I can watch the game as many times as I want. When I return to the USA it wont be allowed domestically, but Im going to use a proxy so that they think Im still in Europe because its the best way to watch.
It even overlays the Raiders radio coverage while watching the game so I can listen to Flores, Papa, and Plunkett.
August 24th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
You could call out just about any fa name & cork will say oh yeah we’ll kick the tires on him..
August 24th, 2012 at 2:33 pm
wasssup Nation the blog seems kinda dead at the moment we talkn unis. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzz
August 24th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
Sit dmac coach.. dont let detroit beat up our stars..
August 24th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
but fuk the Dodgers more.
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I think we finally killed those annoying bastards with our latest sweep.
August 24th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
Riff,
I don’t disagree that the GOv is not spending our money correctly, but do you have any idea how much money/ revenue is not being taxed earned by American corps operating abroad?
August 24th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
Raider Riff Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 2:28 pm
Man, I wish that Saturday game was earlier.
Over here that game comes on in the middle of the night.
There are other things to be doing in the middle of the night.
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Aint that the truth. Im in Italy. WIFI here blows so watching the game on my MacBook is a pain.
I will admit though, the NFL’s GamePass for people overseas is really cool. Do you have it?
I can watch the game as many times as I want. When I return to the USA it wont be allowed domestically, but Im going to use a proxy so that they think Im still in Europe because its the best way to watch.
It even overlays the Raiders radio coverage while watching the game so I can listen to Flores, Papa, and Plunkett.
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Can we use your account?
August 24th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
“The answer is to get rid of all the ridiculous spending in Washington.”
I have to agree with you here the biggest waste of money is by government. First they are over resourced to the gills and they pay themselves way too much.
The average corporate employee in America makes 60K a year while the average government employee makes 80K a year. This is not logical because corporate is who supports government so that is ass backwards.
A congressman makes 174K a year and they have secretaries that make 120K and the secretaries have assistants that make 60K a year and that’s not counting the befits.
Departments are over resourced (75% of Oakland city budget goes to police and fire) So they keep telling the city counsel you need better trained officers ones that cost 180K per year that’s how you will cut down on all these murders…WRONG it hasn’t helped all it has done is waste Oakland’s money.
Then everyday you can read an article in some newspaper or web site about a guard at a local prison that made 200K last year because he worked so much overtime. WASTE!!
Then 1/2 of the people locked up in jails are drug addicts or alcoholic or guys that cant pay child support. WHAT A WASTE!
In every department of any government function there is waste.
Cut government in 1/2 it would still be enough and then cut their salaries in half that is how you start saving money treat them like a corporation make them accountable and profitable.
The point here is that there is enough money being collected by the IRS every year to support our social programs and military but its wasted!
August 24th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
This game will be a good test for our oline. Det prob has the best front 4 in nfl with us being a close second. I dont like the matchup of our guards and center vs Suh and Fairley especially with parsons I anticipate our run game will struggle.
August 24th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
but fuk the Dodgers more.
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I think we finally killed those annoying bastards with our latest sweep.
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Amen to that Vegas.
That was sweet.
August 24th, 2012 at 2:40 pm
Raider O Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
Riff,
I don’t disagree that the GOv is not spending our money correctly, but do you have any idea how much money/ revenue is not being taxed earned by American corps operating abroad?
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As long as they incorporate overseas, they arent breaking any laws. Corps are so international these days, its just a matter of one loophole or another for them to dodge paying their share.
All this is moot anyways. Our corps need to get the F out of other countries and stop meddling in their affairs. We discussed this last nite and I think we all agree, colonialism sucks.
As for the money the gov does collect in tax revenue, they get plenty. And they waste 95% of it. That is on them.
August 24th, 2012 at 2:40 pm
City of Oakland just issued $200 million dollars of pension obligation bonds, about 2 months ago.
Talk about kicking the can down the road. We can’t afford the pension obligations, so let’s take on MORE future obligations to pay off the current ones.
Niiiiiiice.
August 24th, 2012 at 2:40 pm
England,
I’m doing well sir, and thank you for asking. How are you?
I’m thinking about opening a dealership with a friend, but I stopped wholesaling cars. Most of my money is abroad (buying/ developing RE in Jordan). With all the problems in surrounding countries, RE business in Jordan is great.
August 24th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
“The answer is to get rid of all the ridiculous spending in Washington.”
I have to agree with you here the biggest waste of money is by government. First they are over resourced to the gills and they pay themselves way too much.
The average corporate employee in America makes 60K a year while the average government employee makes 80K a year. This is not logical because corporate is who supports government so that is ass backwards.
A congressman makes 174K a year and they have secretaries that make 120K and the secretaries have assistants that make 60K a year and that’s not counting the befits.
Departments are over resourced (75% of Oakland city budget goes to police and fire) So they keep telling the city counsel you need better trained officers ones that cost 180K per year that’s how you will cut down on all these murders…WRONG it hasn’t helped all it has done is waste Oakland’s money.
Then everyday you can read an article in some newspaper or web site about a guard at a local prison that made 200K last year because he worked so much overtime. WASTE!!
Then 1/2 of the people locked up in jails are drug addicts or alcoholic or guys that cant pay child support. WHAT A WASTE!
In every department of any government function there is waste.
Cut government in 1/2 it would still be enough and then cut their salaries in half that is how you start saving money treat them like a corporation make them accountable and profitable.
The point here is that there is enough money being collected by the IRS every year to support our social programs and military but its wasted!
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Bingo. 110% correct. Im with ya brotha.
August 24th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
I like the dodgers for one reason. BEAT THE GIANTS I HATE ALL SF TEAMS MORE THAN ANY OTHER TEAMS.
August 24th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
speaking of not being in the area….i get ktla over here…watched last weeks preseason game…do they cover any regular season games?…or do i have to buy the sunday ticket…i rather watch them lose for free instead of paying for the agony lolol…ok ok ok..im kidding…but really ….am i in luck over here? lemme know thx peeps
August 24th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
Raider Riff Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 2:28 pm
Man, I wish that Saturday game was earlier.
Over here that game comes on in the middle of the night.
There are other things to be doing in the middle of the night.
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Aint that the truth. Im in Italy. WIFI here blows so watching the game on my MacBook is a pain.
I will admit though, the NFL’s GamePass for people overseas is really cool. Do you have it?
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Yes I do have it Riff. And you’re right, it is absolutely great.
August 24th, 2012 at 2:45 pm
Riff,
If we tax those bastards and eliminate those loopholes, and tax them extra for operating abroad in counties with lower tax rates, then we can afford to tax people less, which will give them more income to spend on goods and services, which means they can afford the increase in prices.
August 24th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
Some business like insurance, pharmaceuticals, hospitals, clinics, etc… are making too much profit. They can afford to make less profit and pay more taxes.
August 24th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
“Bingo. 110% correct. Im with ya brotha.”
It could be easily fixed but the problem we have is that government will allow itself to grow in every way possible because they are out for themselves.
A perfect example of this:
Our president is a Democrat and should not allow the FEDS to bust up our medicinal marijuana dispensaries. But yet they are doing it all over the country and in every states where its legal.
WHY?
Because he knows they need the stats and the numbers to justify their budget next year!
The FEDS cant do their real job which is to keep cocaine and heroin from coming across the border so they justify their existence and pad their stats by busting up a bunch of legal businesses.
PATHETIC!!!
August 24th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
JFB
Raider Riff
Raider O
And all the other fake senators and govenors and presidents and mayors you all need to find a blog for that this is a SPORTS blog. people use sports as an escape from all that BS. THIS ISNT CNN OF FOX NEWS.
August 24th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
The cops are cowards. They are just going after easy targets.
Rather than go bust a meth house, they are going to go after the peaceful hippies and their pot shops.
Stone cold cowards.
August 24th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
“Riff,
If we tax those bastards and eliminate those loopholes, and tax them extra for operating abroad in counties with lower tax rates, then we can afford to tax people less, which will give them more income to spend on goods and services, which means they can afford the increase in prices.”
This is what Clinton was trying to do by implementing a large tariff on all imported goods to curtail the outsourcing that was being used by big business. The other party claimed this was just another tax and we do NOT need any more taxes!! Blah Blah and so it never happened.
This is why I have so much hate for those 2 parties they argue point fingers play the blame game and we all pay the price by getting sucked into it.
August 24th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
JFB
Raider Riff
Raider O
And all the other fake senators and govenors and presidents and mayors you all need to find a blog for that this is a SPORTS blog. people use sports as an escape from all that BS. THIS ISNT CNN OF FOX NEWS.
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Youre right. I apologize.
I just cant help it. Im no longer trying to use sports to ignore the world. We’ve done that for far too long.
Trouble is on our doorstep and if we dont start communicating as a people, we are going to be in a world of hurt.
August 24th, 2012 at 2:53 pm
“The cops are cowards. They are just going after easy targets.
Rather than go bust a meth house, they are going to go after the peaceful hippies and their pot shops.
Stone cold cowards.”
Its low hanging fruit, no investigative work involved because they are running a legal business with signs on their doors saying they sell weed how hard can it be?
Why do hard investigative work when you can cherry pick?
August 24th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
Raider O Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 2:45 pm
Riff,
If we tax those bastards and eliminate those loopholes, and tax them extra for operating abroad in counties with lower tax rates, then we can afford to tax people less, which will give them more income to spend on goods and services, which means they can afford the increase in prices.
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Youre never going to eliminate the loopholes. And no amount of revenue will bring our budget balanced.
Have you ever tried to put your wife on a budget? Its kinda like that.
The gov doesnt need more money. They need to spend it better.
August 24th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
Riff,
Don’t apologize. Jerry told us we were allowed to discuss all topics as long as we keep it clean and respectful. You don’t like it, find another Raiders’ blog.
August 24th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
“Eastoaklandraider”
OK I will stop your right there is a place for this political banter and this is not it.
Back to raider football!
So I predict Palmer will be 13 comp 20 att for 2 TD’s and 1 INT tomorrow night.
Who is with me?
August 24th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
Why thank you moderator.
It’s always nice to be noticed.
August 24th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
192 Spot on!
August 24th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
So, England and Riff, can we use your Game Day pass accounts? I will give you $20.
August 24th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
Youre never going to eliminate the loopholes. And no amount of revenue will bring our budget balanced.
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What are you talking about?
Did we have a deficit under the Clinton admin? Or was it a surplus?
August 24th, 2012 at 3:01 pm
Klas Tjorborn Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
So, England and Riff, can we use your Game Day pass accounts? I will give you $20.
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I wouldnt be against doing that for ya.
So long as I got to watch the game first/live. I would imagine that they wont let two IP addresses log in at the same time.
August 24th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
I do enjoy the wide array of topics that are expressed on this board, YOU PEOPLE are my people. We are the Silver & Black faction!
August 24th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
ok O i gonna say this and i’m through. if you believe in god as I do all yoh have to do is read revelations and you know we are FK’D regardless of mayor govenor or pres.
NWO IS COMING AND WE CANT DO SHCIT ABOUT IT.
August 24th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
“Did we have a deficit under the Clinton admin? Or was it a surplus?”
Clinton ran a balanced budget and handed over a surplus to W.
That is a fact.
August 24th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 10:18 am
So GB is a threat to win the SB, due to their dominant OL or DL, not Aaron Rogers, right ?
NE is a threat every year bcz of their OL, not Brady, right ?
Here’s a scoop for you guys, unless you have a dominating defense (eg. 85 Bears, Dilfer’s Ravens, Johnson’s Bucs) you’re going to be extremely hard pressed to win a SB without a premium QB.
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I think your love for Russell has managed to obfuscate your objectivity.
The Raiders greatest team ever-1976-did NOT have a dominating defense even with Jack on it.
What they did have was an unbelievably great offensive line-especially Shell and Upshaw.
I will concede that they/we had a great quarterback in Snake.
August 24th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
Klas Tjorborn Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
So, England and Riff, can we use your Game Day pass accounts? I will give you $20.
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Buy your own pass you fuk’n Scandavian freeloader.
August 24th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
Of course the budget can be balanced. All we do is balance our trade deficit with China and the $16T deficit could be wiped out in two years.
Currently, and for the past 10 yrs we’ve run a $300B/month deficit with China. That translates to $3.6T/year and $36T/decade. When the currency equivalent between China and the U.S. is factored in, plus multipliers under the ripple effect, that translates to at least $300T we have put into the Chinese economy in the last 10 yrs.
If that deficit was balanced the U.S. would have been the recipient of nearly $150T, with taxation on those revenues being at least $15T.
There goes our budget deficit.
August 24th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
It’s fcking juvenile.
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No benefit. It’s just funny. It’s having fun at another teams fan-base’s expense.
If you dont find it funny, oh well. I do. I like Howard Stern, spoof calling, and all sorts of pranks. You got a different sense of humor, that is fine. You dont have to participate. Its no big deal.
Call me immature all you want. I wear it like a badge of honor. I hope I never get so old that I cant find the humor in stuff.
August 24th, 2012 at 3:10 pm
If this were a reg season game I would come out passing in this game but since it practice lets see how our zbs does against this aggressive front 4.
August 24th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
So who do you guys think the crazy Colts owner is going to trade for this weekend? (MJD, Wallace etc.)
August 24th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
pound the rock and put the d on the field to see how we handle MEGATRON
August 24th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
East,
I believe in god, but I read a different book. lol
I don’t like to mix religion with politics. IMO and experience it’s a recipe for disaster.
August 24th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 3:10 pm
If this were a reg season game I would come out passing in this game but since it practice lets see how our zbs does against this aggressive front 4.
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Yeah. Can’t say that I was too happy with Knapp’s play calling the first time he was here.
August 24th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
Raider Riff Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 3:01 pm
Klas Tjorborn Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
So, England and Riff, can we use your Game Day pass accounts? I will give you $20.
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I wouldnt be against doing that for ya.
So long as I got to watch the game first/live. I would imagine that they wont let two IP addresses log in at the same time.
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It works for Netflix and HBO Go.
August 24th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
I would have to watch live too.
August 24th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
Klas Tjorborn Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
So, England and Riff, can we use your Game Day pass accounts? I will give you $20.
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Buy your own pass you fuk’n Scandavian freeloader.
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I apologize for misspelling Scandinavian…but you’re still a fuk’n freeloader.
August 24th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
“Did we have a deficit under the Clinton admin? Or was it a surplus?”
Clinton ran a balanced budget and handed over a surplus to W.
That is a fact.
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Exactly!
August 24th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
Klas Tjorborn Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
So, England and Riff, can we use your Game Day pass accounts? I will give you $20.
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Buy your own pass you fuk’n Scandavian freeloader.
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I apologize for misspelling Scandinavian…but you’re still a fuk’n freeloader.
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LOL
Stop hating on the Swedes. They gave us Ikea!
Go Swedes!!
August 24th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
O For me it not a religon just a way of life and soon you will need the mark of the beast (666) to live in this world and that is the political side of it. NWO MY FRIENDS JUST HOPE YOUR NOT AROUND FOR IT AND THAT YOUR GOOD WITH GOD other than that just enjoy life because a lot of bad things are destin to happen to this world and pres govs and mayor cant save us its. the world has been getting worse by the decade kids getting preg at 13 35 yr old grandparents c’mon open your eyes THIS WORLD IS HEADED FOR DISASTER BOOK OF ELI TYPE SHCIT.
August 24th, 2012 at 3:28 pm
Raider Riff Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
Another idea I thought would be funny is if we got together a group of us semis and we invaded another teams blog.
How fun would it to be for like 20 or 30 of us to blitzkrieg a Chiefs blog. We could all go sign up and pretend to be Chiefs fans, and then just completely rip the the Chiefs apart and start a total mess of their board.
Take our blogs best trolls and go unleash them all on a Donkey blog. A total coordinated attack. It would be hilarious.
We could do it each week to the team we are playing against….
….who’d be down for something like this?
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Put me down. Lets roll.
August 24th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
218.
Count East in.
August 24th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
O For me it not a religon just a way of life and soon you will need the mark of the beast (666) to live in this world and that is the political side of it. NWO MY FRIENDS JUST HOPE YOUR NOT AROUND FOR IT AND THAT YOUR GOOD WITH GOD other than that just enjoy life because a lot of bad things are destin to happen to this world and pres govs and mayor cant save us its. the world has been getting worse by the decade kids getting preg at 13 35 yr old grandparents c’mon open your eyes THIS WORLD IS HEADED FOR DISASTER BOOK OF ELI TYPE SHCIT.
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Sure hope that’s going to happen AFTER the football season.
August 24th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
Raider Riff Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
Another idea I thought would be funny is if we got together a group of us semis and we invaded another teams blog.
How fun would it to be for like 20 or 30 of us to blitzkrieg a Chiefs blog. We could all go sign up and pretend to be Chiefs fans, and then just completely rip the the Chiefs apart and start a total mess of their board.
Take our blogs best trolls and go unleash them all on a Donkey blog. A total coordinated attack. It would be hilarious.
We could do it each week to the team we are playing against….
….who’d be down for something like this?
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Sure thing.
August 24th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
Raider Riff Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
Another idea I thought would be funny is if we got together a group of us semis and we invaded another teams blog.
How fun would it to be for like 20 or 30 of us to blitzkrieg a Chiefs blog. We could all go sign up and pretend to be Chiefs fans, and then just completely rip the the Chiefs apart and start a total mess of their board.
Take our blogs best trolls and go unleash them all on a Donkey blog. A total coordinated attack. It would be hilarious.
We could do it each week to the team we are playing against….
….who’d be down for something like this?
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Think I’ll use the boner delicious handle. Lets get movin.
August 24th, 2012 at 3:33 pm
I apologize for misspelling Scandinavian…but you’re still a fuk’n freeloader.
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Shut up you Limey bastard! Go to the dentist.
August 24th, 2012 at 3:34 pm
I dont want anything to do with the mark of the beast.
But its coming and soon
August 24th, 2012 at 3:34 pm
Raider Riff Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
Another idea I thought would be funny is if we got together a group of us semis and we invaded another teams blog.
How fun would it to be for like 20 or 30 of us to blitzkrieg a Chiefs blog. We could all go sign up and pretend to be Chiefs fans, and then just completely rip the the Chiefs apart and start a total mess of their board.
Take our blogs best trolls and go unleash them all on a Donkey blog. A total coordinated attack. It would be hilarious.
We could do it each week to the team we are playing against….
….who’d be down for something like this?
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Nice
August 24th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
No wiz.. might be hard to run. Time to see if cp3 is ready.
August 24th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
so lets just enjoy are raiders til then huh plunketthead!!!
August 24th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
http://www.lionbacker.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=21&sid=d768fa2d169b13413e5d57f8d6f08f12
Have fun folks, they welcome smack talk
August 24th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
Plunketthead Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 3:34 pm
I dont want anything to do with the mark of the beast.
But its coming and soon
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It’s already here friend. Doesn’t mean you have to wear it tho.
August 24th, 2012 at 3:37 pm
Klas Tjorborn Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 3:33 pm
I apologize for misspelling Scandinavian…but you’re still a fuk’n freeloader.
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Shut up you Limey bastard! Go to the dentist.
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Oh, man! Is that your best shot?!
You sure you’re a RAIDER fan?
August 24th, 2012 at 3:39 pm
Where has Al Bigelo Pain III been lately?
August 24th, 2012 at 3:40 pm
Or Priesttj?
August 24th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
Amen brother eastoak
I was gonna go down swinging but then I got old so I traded my battle rifle and ammo for a rocking chair on the front porch for when things get tough.
Gonna go down with prayer
August 24th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
Loner
what is it? I suspect two things but I dunno yet
August 24th, 2012 at 3:47 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
but fuk the Dodgers more.
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I think we finally killed those annoying bastards with our latest sweep.
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Hell NO!!! We don’t die…we multiply!!!
We’re saving our energy when it counts…F@ggot @ss 49ers/Giants!!!
Nothing against u guys (personally) just those San Franciscio g@y @ss teams!
Think Blue, DODGER BLUE!
August 24th, 2012 at 3:48 pm
Priest gave us his opus last season.
I suspect Albert is here with us right now using another name
August 24th, 2012 at 3:49 pm
Seems like we get more trolls and bores cross posting as we get closer to the season.
August 24th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
England, Swedes gave the world IKEA. What has England ever done?
August 24th, 2012 at 3:51 pm
Klas is Klas. Klas has never posted under a phony name
August 24th, 2012 at 3:51 pm
218, 219, 221, 222, & bunk….
Stay tuned. We’ll make our first target a Sandy Eggo blog. Look for my posts the week of the game.
Hahaha. This is going to be a riot.
I think my username will be “San Diusky Chargers”
August 24th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
Plunketthead Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
I was gonna go down swinging but then I got old so I traded my battle rifle and ammo for a rocking chair on the front porch for when things get tough.//////////////////////Nothing wrong with rocking a shotgun while rocking on the porch. Just like Second Hand Lions.
August 24th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
What is the Chargers blog?
August 24th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
Klas Tjorborn Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
What is the Chargers blog?
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I dunno. I havent looked for one yet. You got any suggestions?
August 24th, 2012 at 3:57 pm
Klas Tjorborn Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
England, Swedes gave the world IKEA. What has England ever done?
240.Klas Tjorborn Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 3:51 pm
Klas is Klas. Klas has never posted under a phony name
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Yeah…I kind of suspected who you were MR.
August 24th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
Marks hair Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 3:49 pm
Seems like we get more trolls and bores cross posting as we get closer to the season.////////////////////////////Either Raider Riff is cross posting to drum up support for his troll attack idea or he inspired one other poster to go Sybil on us and create a sock puppet army.
August 24th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
Yeah…I kind of suspected who you were MR.
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You are wrong.
August 24th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
Chargers have a blog on their official site:
http://blog.chargers.com/
August 24th, 2012 at 4:00 pm
Yeah…I kind of suspected who you were MR./////////////////////No way. The sullen1 is way too easy to spot and Klas is upbeat and funny most of the time.
August 24th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
All the Charger blogs I have looked at are weak. They have like 7 comments per post.
August 24th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
I do apologize moderator and I hope that my post didn’t offend you whiner azz brains.
August 24th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
Well, maybe if sully finally got the right meds…
August 24th, 2012 at 4:03 pm
“O For me it not a religon just a way of life and soon you will need the mark of the beast (666) to live in this world and that is the political side of it.”
So do I get anything for having the mark of the beast first?
August 24th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
“No way. The sullen1 is way too easy to spot and Klas is upbeat and funny most of the time.”
Yeah I agree Klas is to funny and upbeat you can tell by the writing style the words people chose and the way they use punctuation etc. These are all giveaways for cross posters.
August 24th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
Klas, what time is it in Sweden right now?
August 24th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
Sullivan has been here at the same time as me. He seems like a Debbie Downer compared to Klas.
August 24th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
Seymour, it is a little past 1 am right now.
August 24th, 2012 at 4:10 pm
Just got back from club. Gonna check it in early tonight.
August 24th, 2012 at 4:10 pm
Klas Tjorborn Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
England, Swedes gave the world IKEA. What has England ever done?
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You think so 666?
Listen, no guy from Sweden is going to come on here and say something as stupid as Sweden gave the world IKEA and what has England ever done.
The Swedes just aren’t that stupid.
August 24th, 2012 at 4:10 pm
What’s up Nation!?! Go Raiders!!!
August 24th, 2012 at 4:11 pm
England, it was the joke. Get a sense of humors.
August 24th, 2012 at 4:11 pm
Klas
I just got home from the pub, no disco in TX
August 24th, 2012 at 4:13 pm
England is a police state, with a corrupt queen, and I am 1 qtr English.
August 24th, 2012 at 4:18 pm
Oh man, did I miss the live shat? Dag nabbit.
August 24th, 2012 at 4:19 pm
Peymour the Tr0ll, how did you and Klas wind up with the exact same hyperlink?
August 24th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
You and all your alter ego alias’s were here as usual.
#coo coo
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Seymour Bush Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 4:18 pm
Oh man, did I miss the live shat? Dag nabbit.
August 24th, 2012 at 4:23 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFPmJkzZukE
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Klas, bump this in Sweden for the blondies!
August 24th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
MistaBrown Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 4:19 pm
Peymour the Tr0ll, how did you and Klas wind up with the exact same hyperlink?
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Um, err, I think anyone can put whatever hyperlink they want in their profile box. Even a toothless moron like yourself should be able to understand that. You’re about freedom aren’t you? Or is it just more conservative bullsh** where you talk freedom but then take freedoms away? BTW has Romney released his tax returns yet? Or his he still hiding how he squirreled away over $100mm into a 401k where the law states you can contribute $7k a year?
August 24th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
“You think so 666?
Listen, no guy from Sweden is going to come on here and say something as stupid as Sweden gave the world IKEA and what has England ever done.
The Swedes just aren’t that stupid.”
well he does seem like a made up character and he talks about Sweden so much it does at times seem a little fishy but Sullie is too angry at the world to dream up such a happy go lucky personality like Klas…..I am no expert on weeding out cross posters I take this shlt too lightly to even care I guess.
August 24th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
It would be nice to have Jones play well tomorrow night, which in turn would give us more depth at another important position. Maybe Jones turns into Napoleon Kaufmaun? It could possibly happen if he stays healthy. If this occurs, we have the fastest backfield in the NFL, hands down. Some of it could be wishful thinking but both Mcfadden and Jones healthy= nightmare for defensive coordinators.
Go Raiders!
August 24th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
There are definitely some people here with multiple accounts.
As for me, I gotta run. Its 130 here and my chic is getting angry again. She’s thinking of making herself an account here just to give me a hard time.
She’s a Seahawks fan. I told her if she signs up Im not protecting her from the mob.
Later gents.
August 24th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
“You think so 666?
Listen, no guy from Sweden is going to come on here and say something as stupid as Sweden gave the world IKEA and what has England ever done.
The Swedes just aren’t that stupid.”
well he does seem like a made up character and he talks about Sweden so much
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Let’s be honest, right now I am probably closer to Sweden than Klas is.
August 24th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFPmJkzZukE
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Freestyle
August 24th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
LOL Later Riff
August 24th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 10:18 am
So GB is a threat to win the SB, due to their dominant OL or DL, not Aaron Rogers, right ?
NE is a threat every year bcz of their OL, not Brady, right ?
Here’s a scoop for you guys, unless you have a dominating defense (eg. 85 Bears, Dilfer’s Ravens, Johnson’s Bucs) you’re going to be extremely hard pressed to win a SB without a premium QB.
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I think your love for Russell has managed to obfuscate your objectivity.
The Raiders greatest team ever-1976-did NOT have a dominating defense even with Jack on it.
What they did have was an unbelievably great offensive line-especially Shell and Upshaw.
I will concede that they/we had a great quarterback in Snake.
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When did I say the 76 Raids had a dominating defense ?
In fact, I’ve said the Raids have NEVER had a truly dominating defense. Plenty of really good defenses, but nothing ever dominating like the Steel Curtain, 85 Bears, or 2000 Ravens. That’s really not a huge critique, as defenses like that are extremely rare.
The point was, a QB like Dilfer or McMahon would be exteremely hard pressed to win a SB without an outstanding defense. Mediocre QB’s, as a rule, aren’t getting you a ring without the benefit of a dominant D.
Since we agree Stabler was a great QB, I don’t see the point you’re trying to make.
I hope you’re being sarcastic or facetious about my love for JaMoron. Either way, I don’t see how JaMoron is relevant to this conversation at all.
August 24th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
Where do you live Seymour? In asylum?
August 24th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
Klas Tjorborn Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
England, Swedes gave the world IKEA. What has England ever done?
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LOL
Don’t get me started.
Colonized a lot of countries and gave an entire country as a gift (Palestine).
I rather have IKEA!
August 24th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
Klas is going to bed. Sweet dreams!
August 24th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
Later Riff.
August 24th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFPmJkzZukE
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Jam this in the Yota.
August 24th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 10:18 am
So GB is a threat to win the SB, due to their dominant OL or DL, not Aaron Rogers, right ?
NE is a threat every year bcz of their OL, not Brady, right ?
Here’s a scoop for you guys, unless you have a dominating defense (eg. 85 Bears, Dilfer’s Ravens, Johnson’s Bucs) you’re going to be extremely hard pressed to win a SB without a premium QB.
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I think your love for Russell has managed to obfuscate your objectivity.
The Raiders greatest team ever-1976-did NOT have a dominating defense even with Jack on it.
What they did have was an unbelievably great offensive line-especially Shell and Upshaw.
I will concede that they/we had a great quarterback in Snake.
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When did I say the 76 Raids had a dominating defense ?
In fact, I’ve said the Raids have NEVER had a truly dominating defense. Plenty of really good defenses, but nothing ever dominating like the Steel Curtain, 85 Bears, or 2000 Ravens. That’s really not a huge critique, as defenses like that are extremely rare.
The point was, a QB like Dilfer or McMahon would be exteremely hard pressed to win a SB without an outstanding defense. Mediocre QB’s, as a rule, aren’t getting you a ring without the benefit of a dominant D.
Since we agree Stabler was a great QB, I don’t see the point you’re trying to make.
I hope you’re being sarcastic or facetious about my love for JaMoron. Either way, I don’t see how JaMoron is relevant to this conversation at all.
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Well, what do you know! Someone talking about football!
Of course I was beinging facetious about Russell, 99.
You and I shared the same opinion of him from the git go.
What I was questioned was your apparent insistence that a strong defense is more essential to a winning football team than a strong offensive line.
I don’t agree with that.
You start with a strong offensive line and doing that is more important than having a great defense and the 76 Raiders and pretty much every really great Raider team proved that.
August 24th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
RoMac keeping it on the football field. Don’t think he should be beating up our linebackers though. Kinda thin there. http://www.raiders.com/media-vault/photo-gallery/2012-Training-Camp-Final-Practice/65b095eb-d1b4-4594-9976-f9fa33daa1e4#8cc53a02-c892-4849-aa3b-4bbd6fea0aff
August 24th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
I like Irsay, that dude cracks me up.
Just happy he’s not affiliated with the Raiders.
August 24th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
What I was questioned was your apparent insistence that a strong defense is more essential to a winning football team than a strong offensive line.
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Never insisted that at all or even inferred it.
However, I do believe a great QB can make an offensive line look a lot better than it actually is.
That wasn’t the case with the 76 Raids at all. They had a great line, perhaps the best of all time. Stabler benefitted immensely from that. And I agree 100% that although the defense was good, it was hardly dominating.
August 24th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
How many LB’s do the Raiders keep on the 53?
If Curry gets put on the PUP list, he won’t take a roster spot will he.
Pardon my lack of knowledge.
August 24th, 2012 at 6:32 pm
Holy crap, batman. ibabuzz disappeared.
August 24th, 2012 at 6:32 pm
Raiders For Life Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
How many LB’s do the Raiders keep on the 53?
If Curry gets put on the PUP list, he won’t take a roster spot will he.
Pardon my lack of knowledge.
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No, he will not take up a roster spot until he is activated following Week 6.
August 24th, 2012 at 6:38 pm
Yo. Whats up with all these cross posters using aliases all the time? Or does this blog really have that many blogees? I think the latter. The talk of all the trolling is conspiracy. But if you talk politics and not Raider ball, thats bein a troll. Thats right.
August 24th, 2012 at 6:41 pm
Cornfucious say man who eat whole football not able to pass it.
August 24th, 2012 at 6:42 pm
gave an entire country as a gift (Palestine).
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There was never a country or nation/state of Palestine.
That’s ridiculous Arab revisionist history.
Palestine was a geographic region. Not a nation.
If it was a nation, you should be able to cite when it came into existence, name a few presidents, kings or prime ministers, state it’s exact borders, state what currency it created, etc.
And who did the Brits gift Palestine to ?
Since the dissolution of the Turkish Empire there’s been a myriad of Arab nations created.
The REGION of Palestine was partitioned by the World League/UN, divided into several nations.
Only one of which seems to bother the Arabs.
Bothers them enough that they’ve launched several wars in an attempt to destroy that nation, only to get the camel urine slapped out of them and then they whine about an ‘occupation’.
You want a ‘Palestinian’ nation ? Build one in the Hashemite Kingdom. After all, the vast majority of the REGION of Palestine was used to create that entity. That way you won’t have to be confused whether you’re a Jordanian or a Palestinian.
High time that the Islamo-fascists stop obsessing over destroying Israel, quit promising to finish Hitler’s work, and get on with improving their own lot.
Leave the portion of Palestine that became Israel alone.
It’s better for everyone concerned.
August 24th, 2012 at 6:42 pm
We had a new post for a couple minutes and then it just vanished into the intergalactic bit bucket.
August 24th, 2012 at 6:53 pm
purvisman Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 6:32 pm
Holy crap, batman. ibabuzz disappeared.
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I’m still here. After further review, that post was called back. No timeout was charged.
August 24th, 2012 at 6:54 pm
Cork took a timeout. It IS friday night
August 24th, 2012 at 7:52 pm
I just watched the first 3 quarters of Giants v. Bears. Giants look polished. Bears look unpolished. JC misfired on 4 passes in the 3rd quarter and Forte gained 5 yds in 10 carries in the first half.
Culter was his usual arrogant, surly self, and did little. He’ll be out by game 10 with a hangnail injury. JC is still a mouth breather.
Bears are going nowhere this season.
August 24th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
Blackandsilverside Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 7:52 pm
Culter was his usual arrogant, surly self, and did little. He’ll be out by game 10 with a hangnail injury.
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I can’t believe people rank this guy higher than CP.
August 24th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
Yo Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 6:38 pm
Yo. Whats up with all these cross posters using aliases all the time? Or does this blog really have that many blogees? I think the latter. The talk of all the trolling is conspiracy. But if you talk politics and not Raider ball, thats bein a troll. Thats right.
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Yo,
Thanks for your opinion.
August 24th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
RaiderDuck,
I can’t believe people rank this guy higher than CP.
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Cutler’s attitude is his undoing.
August 24th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
Jason Campbell has just thrown a TD before Carson Palmer has in pre-season
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap2000000054631/Joe-Anderson-12-yard-touchdown-catch
August 24th, 2012 at 8:16 pm
Neither side showed confusion and inconsistency, just polished and unpolished.
No QB even came close to being intercepted.
August 24th, 2012 at 8:19 pm
Drive of the week: Cutler’s new weapons: NFL.com
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Ummmmmm, drive of the week ?? doubtful. Also JC was playing with NY’s scrubs, and not the first team.
August 24th, 2012 at 8:24 pm
We really need to trade Ford and Moore. Cause in fact: serial malingering
August 24th, 2012 at 8:30 pm
Stanford Routt burned tonight by Seattle…Wilson was torching those fools.
how did people miss on Wilson, and WE get Pryor?
August 24th, 2012 at 8:31 pm
See what happens when you wonder where MR is?
August 24th, 2012 at 8:31 pm
Vegas,Dodgers closing on blockbuster deal to acquire Adrian Gonzalez, Josh Beckett from Red Sox!!!!!!
U gotta love that?
No?
August 24th, 2012 at 8:31 pm
Love that Rusell Wilson kid. Some has that it factor and most dont. chickenhawks struck gold with him. Dude carried his team in college and doing it again in the pros against first stringers. How scouts passed on him is crazy.
August 24th, 2012 at 8:32 pm
Blackandsilverside Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 8:24 pm
We really need to trade Ford and Moore. Cause in fact: serial malingering
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wondering if Seahawks would part with either Golden Tate or Doug Baldwin now that T.O. and Braylon are in town…?
August 24th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
R8eray Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 8:31 pm
Vegas,Dodgers closing on blockbuster deal to acquire Adrian Gonzalez, Josh Beckett from Red Sox!!!!!!
U gotta love that?
No?
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G I A N T S
until the Dodgers win it all, they are still the class of that division.
August 24th, 2012 at 8:36 pm
Moore and Ford have talent but all the talent in world is moot if you aren’t in the game.
We should wait until they are healed and have one game under their belts. We should throw in Jones as a consolation prize.
Hopefully we could get a high calibre CB or RB.
August 24th, 2012 at 8:38 pm
RaiderSam Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 8:30 pm
Stanford Routt burned tonight by Seattle…Wilson was torching those fools.
how did people miss on Wilson, and WE get Pryor?
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Excellent question. Blame it on AD’s dementia.
August 24th, 2012 at 8:42 pm
The Sockpuppet Army’s mouthpiece of the month thinks we should trade one of our players with the most upside. Think I’ll wait for Reggie Mac to check in first.
August 24th, 2012 at 8:46 pm
Prince Amukamara supposedly injured his leg after making a light and easy ankle tackle in which his leg, ankle, or foot was not torqued, wrenched, or otherwise stressed. This was confirmed after about 20 instant replays.
First they said it was a groin strain. The trouble with that is Amukamara was holding his ankle. Then it was reported he had a high ankle strain.
Of course Prince Amukamara injured his foot last year and was out for the season. NYG’s should fire him tomorrow. Just get rid of him. He’s flotsam banging on the dock, with Moore, Ford, and Jones.
August 24th, 2012 at 8:50 pm
PlunkforHOF Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 8:42 pm
The Sockpuppet Army’s mouthpiece of the month thinks we should trade one of our players with the most upside. Think I’ll wait for Reggie Mac to check in first.
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Yeah, and of course HOF, a genius like you will let the malingers ride the pine, like Chaz, who btw is hurt again, until all their value is gone.
Anyway, why aren’t you working on your 6 new songs with your 24 track and $500 version of pro-tools? What’s the matter, you didn’t get lucky with “Tinkle Bell and the Rockettes?”
August 24th, 2012 at 8:55 pm
Cornfucious say man who talk out of his ass have bad breath.
August 24th, 2012 at 8:58 pm
Blackandsilverside Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 8:46 pm
Prince Amukamara supposedly injured his leg after making a light and easy ankle tackle in which his leg, ankle, or foot was not torqued, wrenched, or otherwise stressed. This was confirmed after about 20 instant replays.
First they said it was a groin strain. The trouble with that is Amukamara was holding his ankle. Then it was reported he had a high ankle strain.
Of course Prince Amukamara injured his foot last year and was out for the season. NYG’s should fire him tomorrow. Just get rid of him. He’s flotsam banging on the dock, with Moore, Ford, and Jones.
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Man, Eric Berry got blasted by Leon Washington on that 24 yd Wilson QB sneak
August 24th, 2012 at 9:02 pm
in other words: I AM MR!!!!
August 24th, 2012 at 9:13 pm
Cornfucious say man with very long chonga chonga have no trouble finding hoo hoo.
August 24th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
Seahacks beat the snot off of KC. Cant wait to see them humliate the niners twice this year. So far KC, SD and denver suck, which bodes well for the Raiders.
August 24th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
Michael Bush rushed just once for two yards in Friday’s preseason game against the Giants, and was held without a catch.
LOL!
August 24th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
RaiderSam:
Man, Eric Berry got blasted by Leon Washington on that 24 yd Wilson QB sneak
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RaiderSam,
Apparently it’s a new world over at the Seahawks, with the addition of Wilson.
Why haven’t we lucked into a QB like him? We have CP who will never be better than he was last season, and TP who is dinking and dunking predicting he’ll be great.
I believe Pryor has been working extremely hard, but on what?? That hard work doesn’t show in him play.
August 24th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
r8eray Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
Michael Bush rushed just once for two yards in Friday’s preseason game against the Giants, and was held without a catch.
LOL!
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Yeah I saw that. But the Bears looked really bad. Forte didn’t do much better until NYG’s 2nd and 3rd stringers came in.
August 24th, 2012 at 9:28 pm
I just reviewed the box score in Seattle v Chiefs, and in fact Chiefs dominated the Seahawks, except for a turnover parlayed into a TD and a runback parlayed into a TD.
Seattle has major work to do.
August 24th, 2012 at 9:32 pm
chargers, dunkeys and kc so schitty that it will make Oaklands march to the AFC west title a cake walk.
seahawks got the Pimp Hand Cable. Good for at least 2 wins.
Got Pete Carroll, good for 3 wins.
Got good scouts and recruits. Good for 2 wins.
seahawks will win NFC west, but get KO’d in the first round. niners will get schitt on all year long.
Packers, Giants and Philly will be pretty good.
Most AFC teams will suck balls, but Pitt could give the Raiders a bit of trouble, tho I think the Raiders will prevail.
Other noise maker mentionables:
Detroit
Colts
Ravens
Teams with big expectations but sure to tank it:
niners
Teams that will really try hard just to make .500:
Bears
Skins
NE
Teams that the press will eat for lunch:
Jets
Superbowl in New Orleans:
RAIDERS vs. Giants or Packers
August 24th, 2012 at 9:36 pm
blackandsilverside Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 9:28 pm
I just reviewed the box score in Seattle v Chiefs, and in fact Chiefs dominated the Seahawks, except for a turnover parlayed into a TD and a runback parlayed into a TD.
Seattle has major work to do.
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Seattle flat-out owned the KC. Fck the box score. Seattle had over 150 yds of offense before KC broke 10 on their 4th possession. They literally beat the schitt ouuta them. However, the seahawks will be also rans by post season and kc will be as crappy as ever.
August 24th, 2012 at 9:43 pm
Sweet Meatball and the Hungry Possum Posse from Stone Rock Gulch Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 9:36 pm
blackandsilverside Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 9:28 pm
I just reviewed the box score in Seattle v Chiefs, and in fact Chiefs dominated the Seahawks, except for a turnover parlayed into a TD and a runback parlayed into a TD.
Seattle has major work to do.
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Seattle flat-out owned the KC. Fck the box score. Seattle had over 150 yds of offense before KC broke 10 on their 4th possession. They literally beat the schitt ouuta them. However, the seahawks will be also rans by post season and kc will be as crappy as ever.
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Like I said I only saw the box score and not the game. In you Meatball, I trust.
August 24th, 2012 at 9:50 pm
@ 323
musta been the 4th qtr scrubs that inflated kc’s poor first team stats. I quit watching at the end of the 3rd qtr. As much as I cant stand KC, I equally dislike the hacks. I just wanted to see two teams beat each other to a pulp, but the hacks made KC look very bad. Cassell forced a lot of throws and the recievers couldn’t hang on. Wilson could be the hacks starter over flynn. The guy is a 5′9″ dynamo. I really want to see the niners lose to them twice this year because they are way down there with SD, Denver and the hacks. KC is harmless.
August 24th, 2012 at 9:52 pm
Wilson is only 5′9?? wow…….
August 24th, 2012 at 9:55 pm
I saw Cutler throw a shoulder-high pass toward a NYG defensive lineman and that lineman knocked the ball down. Mysteriously, the 2 commentators thoroughly praised Cutler for throwing that ball.
It just goes to show it’s not the height but the instinct that really matters.
August 24th, 2012 at 9:57 pm
297.RaiderSam Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
Jason Campbell has just thrown a TD before Carson Palmer has in pre-season
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap2000000054631/Joe-Anderson-12-yard-touchdown-catch
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That’s a fair comparison; seeing as the Bears have played a full game more than the Raiders.
And by the way…who gives a schytt?
August 24th, 2012 at 10:00 pm
It was a little difficult to draft Wilson over Pryor, seeing as Wilson was still playing for Wisconsin when Al drafted him.
August 24th, 2012 at 10:03 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 9:57 pm
And by the way…who gives a schytt?
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Thank You.
August 24th, 2012 at 10:03 pm
I think Wilson is 5′10 actually. He’s been listed as tall as 5′11, but I think he’s closer to 5′10.
August 24th, 2012 at 10:10 pm
Sully, give it a rest.
August 24th, 2012 at 10:16 pm
Wow!
Take your meds MR.
August 24th, 2012 at 10:17 pm
Russell Wilson showed amazing accuracy and solid arm strength at Wisconsin. As I’ve talked about constantly, accuracy in college gives you a chance at the NFL level.
This is why Wilson’s success is not that surprising, and neither are Pryor’s struggles.
Ryan Tannehill was a reach and will struggle in Miami due to his inaccuracy and panic in the pocket displayed at Texas A&M.
August 24th, 2012 at 10:22 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
Off topic but may i ask you guys your opinion the best lap top to get? That won’t break the bank? I’ve alsways had good luck with Acer actually but people say get a Dell./////////////Acer and Asus both have good reps. Dell didn’t several years ago, may have improved. I’ve always liked HP; probably because I’m still using a 2003 HP Compaq presario with no issues. With the emphasis on tablets,netbooks, ultras etc. the best buys seem to be the bigger 15.4″ or 17.1″ laptops. See those from acer, toshiba, HP, etc. at the big box stores(best buy,etc) for $300 with acceptable specs to less than $500 with more than acceptable specs all the time, usually with windows 7 home premium installed. That’s the direction I,m leaning. I don’t mind a big laptop, prefer it actually but I don’t lug it around all that much. You gotta know what’s important to you and obviously the more you spend…
August 24th, 2012 at 10:39 pm
Toshiba or Dell, can’t go wrong IMO.
August 24th, 2012 at 10:45 pm
Thanks Purvisman. I think i’m gonna bring this Dell back and get an Acer. I’ve been using this Dell for a few days now and I don’t really like it.
Acers have been te best i’ve owned and I don’t wanna spend a bunch of money.
August 24th, 2012 at 10:46 pm
I’m on an HP. Specs are so good and inexpensive, as you’ve pointed out, that you can basically grab whichever of the HP, Dell, ASUS (the brand computer nerds prefer), or Toshibas is on sale that week.
So I vote grab the best deal from any of those known brands.
August 24th, 2012 at 10:51 pm
335.backstageatapuppetshow Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 10:39 pm
Toshiba or Dell, can’t go wrong IMO.
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Well, I have one of the cheaper model Dells right now.
I think i’m gonna have to spend a little more. Acers have just worked well for me.
My work computer was a Dell but the motherboard fried as well as hard drive crashed…it’s kaput.
August 24th, 2012 at 10:54 pm
337,
It’s almost embarrassing to admit how many laptops I have purchased and taken back in the past week.
They’re gonna ban me from the store soon.
August 24th, 2012 at 10:59 pm
I don’t proclaim to be an expert on laptops…..football YES….laptops…not so much….did drop mine a while back and had to buy a new hard drive (install it) and it fired right back up….lol….love my DELL….
August 24th, 2012 at 11:01 pm
I would never buy a laptop new though….got mine on ebay…had it 4 years now…works like a charm….and I dropped it once!
August 24th, 2012 at 11:03 pm
Dell Studio XPS here….
August 24th, 2012 at 11:08 pm
Interesting to see NFLN talking up the Detroit/Raider game.
The scroll at bottom of the screen says “Detroit’s offense takes on revamped Raider defense”.
Best case scenario is Raider offense “it’s just preseason”. Raider defense “re-vamped” and it all starts to come together Sept. 10th.
I wouldn’t mind the “new era” Raiders sending a message tom. nite. Where i’m at it’s actually tonight
August 24th, 2012 at 11:08 pm
In my estimation most laptop problems begin because they get too hot….find one with a review that says it stays cool….a light up keyboard is a must…
Most laptop problems are either software (operating system) related or faulty hard drives…
Other than that…all of em work pretty good now a days I think…
August 24th, 2012 at 11:09 pm
Isn’t the Raider/Lions game tape delayed and blacked out?
August 24th, 2012 at 11:12 pm
Backstage, I would not be averse to buying used..from a professional “geek” who’d stand behind it.
August 24th, 2012 at 11:15 pm
At least on ebay you can buy from someone with positive feedback….
I find that 1 person running a business on ebay is better customer attention then you will get from someone at Bestbuy….
On Ebay, most seem to care about their customer feedback rating and will go out of their way to help you…if you find the right seller.
August 24th, 2012 at 11:15 pm
Backstage, I think out in Bay Area that is the case. I have to look and see if ESPN is doing this game or not. Somebody mentioned they were, so I kind of took it to be true, but I hadn’t looked it up yet.
I’m gonna check ESPN schedule right now.
August 24th, 2012 at 11:17 pm
some of the newer models have the “stay cool” feature and still under $500
August 24th, 2012 at 11:25 pm
Well, it looks like whoever said it’s on ESPN was wrong.
Looks like a visit to virusville (firstrow) again.
August 24th, 2012 at 11:27 pm
NFLN does this thing called “Prseason Live” which does live look ins on all the games.
Seeing as NFLN is talking this game up alot, i imagine our game will get a lot of play.
August 24th, 2012 at 11:28 pm
Game is replayed on NFL Network on Sunday @ 8 PM….
August 24th, 2012 at 11:30 pm
“Let’s look in at the Raiders and Lions where Darren McFadden has made alot of big runs but lets take a look at this interception from Carson Palmer…Palmer is 12-14 and 150 yds. but this interception was awful”.
August 24th, 2012 at 11:32 pm
Game is listed as on Raiders broadcast Network (Channel 58 in Sacramento and surrounding areas) @ 4 pm…but says it is subject to change….
I wonder if it is blacked out if that channel will show it later on that same evening….according to the guide….doesn’t say.
August 24th, 2012 at 11:36 pm
352.backstageatapuppetshow Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 11:28 pm
Game is replayed on NFL Network on Sunday @ 8 PM….
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Cool. Preseason or not, this is one i’d like to see a Raider W.
The last 6 of 7 times the Raiders have taken the field and played a game where they are keeping score, they have lost.
It’s not good for my psyche.
August 24th, 2012 at 11:38 pm
I was talking smack about Seymour today and was reminded about this play and I swelled up with pride…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1PhjFs18MA
The best thing about this play was the lack of a response by everyone surrounding it…everyone turned a blind eye and didn’t mind that it happened….not even the QBs own lineman came to his aid…
August 24th, 2012 at 11:44 pm
Comcast has it listed live for me on 58. I’m 50-60 miles other side of Sactown from Oakland but still get screwed with regular season blackouts. Probably because feed is from Sac and gets within the 75 mile blackout radius.
August 24th, 2012 at 11:48 pm
I still don’t get how Comcast can target commercials to individual zip codes, but can’t tailor the NFL feed around the blackout radius.
August 25th, 2012 at 1:38 am
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August 25th, 2012 at 2:03 am
backstageatapuppetshow Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 11:38 pm
I was talking smack about Seymour today and was reminded about this play and I swelled up with pride…
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I’ve been talking up this ‘play’ for weeks as an example
of his leadership(being an unabashed Seymour fanboy)…
the refs started this one by not calling the offensive holds (obvious on every play) on Pittsburg but calling them on us.(Papa was going off).The result….they were wiping the floor with our a$$.Rapistberger crows in the wrong guys ear….POW…. have seat scumbag.
Loved it nobody said or did sh!t….Backstage…that made me as proud as hell to be a RAIDER.
August 25th, 2012 at 2:07 am
Best part…he didn’t even turn his head to look….just threw his right palm over his left shoulder and damn near broke scumbags neck….wonder what discipline of the martial arts he practices?
August 25th, 2012 at 2:16 am
As far as laptops….you can get a Lenovo Thinkpad on Ebay for under $200 used…..As Backstage recommends buy from a reputable source and you can guarantee it will work.They have older Thinkpads that are upgradable to win 7 64 bit and the best service for driver updates etc.
Run a Lenovo System update and it hooks your laptop to a server and downloads and installs all the software and latest device drivers while you sleep.Awesome.
August 25th, 2012 at 2:16 am
August 25th, 2012 at 2:27 am
Backstage did you read any of the comments underneath that video?Guy from Buffalo asks….why does Scumbag Oakland even have an NFL team?
Answer a$$hole…how do you spell Bills?….with four L’s of course.Or Bills…whatever was wrong with the original name…..your Buffalo Bison’s.Jack Kemp was damn
good…shame the rest of the squad sucked.Bet OJ was sooo
happy you drafted his a$$…and on and on.
August 25th, 2012 at 2:28 am
Can you spell Norwood boy’s and girl’s….I bet you can.
August 25th, 2012 at 2:31 am
I just want Seymour to suit up for practice….maybe put his friggin helmet on and set an example….
He wants to rest his knees…..I get it…but don’t punk the system….
He gets paid and he needs to bring with that the responsibility of being the leader and setting an example for the young guys….
That example IMO is not sitting out all week after his last play on the field was getting driven back 3 yards into the end zone….
I will admit that nothing he does will satisfy me…but he can give a lil more than what I’ve been seein’
August 25th, 2012 at 2:43 am
r8eray Says:
August 24th, 2012 at 8:31 pm
Vegas,Dodgers closing on blockbuster deal to acquire Adrian Gonzalez, Josh Beckett from Red Sox!!!!!!
U gotta love that?
No?
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Gonzalez can hit.
On the other hand Boston is kind of eager to get rid of Becket. They think he’s trouble in the clubhouse.
August 25th, 2012 at 2:51 am
I’m not even sure if it is his call.From what I see of the man….he leads by example and the kids on the squad
(all 60 of em)have to be in awe of a guy with three rings and seven Pro Bowls.
One video or a thousand words http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=12vY33lbq1M
August 25th, 2012 at 3:16 am
Poker Anyone?
You’re not sure if it’s his call?
It is his call..who in the organization makes the dollars he does?
No one.
So, logic would tell you that no one who makes less money is going to tell him what to do…
POINT BLANK…they (the coaches) don’t have the balls to confront him!
It’s Richards way of showing he is the ALPHA….
Maybe the Raiders should hire someone who they pay nothing to who can come in and just motivate him….cause sitting out practice at training camp isn’t cutting it….maybe that way the motivator (who has nothing to lose) can impress upon the man that he is simply being lazy?
Tommy Kelly is a year younger…he doesn’t sit out of practice….although I’m sure he would like to….
You want a video which says a thousand words…I’ve got one for ya:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVXKOb5EE7Y
August 25th, 2012 at 3:17 am
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August 25th, 2012 at 3:29 am
Hey PommieRaider…(little colonial touch)…enjoyed your posts last night regarding socialism et al.Fact I enjoyed reading the entire blog.
Wot’s this I hear about Andy being tested for enhancing implants….Nonsense…England wins a tennis gold every hundred years or so weather they need one or not.
W.C.
“The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.”
August 25th, 2012 at 3:37 am
“All that really belongs to us is time; even he who has nothing else has that.”
=Baltasar Gracian=
August 25th, 2012 at 3:41 am
Backstage…I will defer to your knowledge but I still love the dude…reminds me some past spirits.Wimbley even calls him up which says a lot to me.He also got Kelly to lose weight and start playing to his abilities.
I see your a big ‘Coolhand Luke’ fan.Did you ever get the “coolhand luke” comic books?Maybe a TV cartoon show also?They were really funny.
August 25th, 2012 at 3:43 am
backstageatapuppetshow Says:
August 25th, 2012 at 3:37 am
“All that really belongs to us is time; even he who has nothing else has that.”
=Baltasar Gracian=
Never a truer word spoken.
August 25th, 2012 at 3:45 am
Stay away from HP computers, or any electronics for that matter. HP is crap.
Go with a Samsung. You can never go wrong with that brand.
August 25th, 2012 at 3:45 am
Didn’t know there was a cartoon or a comic….probably beyond my time….but the movie hit home the first time I saw it….
Good Talk Twinkl3….
Good Morning
August 25th, 2012 at 3:58 am
Riff….Enjoyed your posts last night…didn’t realize
that this historical information was even available in the US.I can go a lot further than you touched on as far as 1930-1950 Europe but this forum is definitely not the place for that.
As with you and I regarding Gannon I disagree with you as far as HP and Samsung are concerned.Some HP laptops from 2007-2010 (higher end larger display models)were some of the best.Lenovo make the best and Samsung in their many different persona’s are a hit and miss affair.
By and large Lenovo is consistent quality and the others are mostly crap.
August 25th, 2012 at 4:19 am
Backstage good morning to you.
This comic thing may well have been while I was living in Germany….the TV cartoon also but that may have been a memory hallucination.If so it’s damn real as I remember the voices and I remember them in English not German.Got something to waste some of Mr Gracian’s topic on…here I go googling.
August 25th, 2012 at 4:20 am
Robert Redford = some of the best movies ever made.
August 25th, 2012 at 4:42 am
Klas has laptop that gets real hot. Computer would just shut down when blazing. I got one of those fans to plug into it and it works much better. Klas wanted to buy a Mac laptop but could not justify coughing up that much cheddar.
August 25th, 2012 at 4:42 am
Maybe big Reggie can make a trade for Matt Flynn in the off season if Russel is the man in Seattle.
August 25th, 2012 at 4:45 am
Twinkle Says:
August 25th, 2012 at 4:20 am
Robert Redford = some of the best movies ever made.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1hQuzJPRDA
August 25th, 2012 at 4:51 am
I always liked Paul Newman better. The Hustler is great movie:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qj5Egv0GYG4&feature=related
August 25th, 2012 at 4:59 am
Biggest mystery in the world is how hot women keep dating John Mayer. He is the douchiest of douches. He dumps Katy Perry? Really? He not even that good looking. Klas will never understand women.
August 25th, 2012 at 5:00 am
As the Oakland Raiders’ defense prepare for their toughest test of the preseason against the Detroit Lions, defensive coordinator Jason Tarver wants to see the defense continue to show progression. As a first year defense coordinator in the NFL, Tarver is teaching his defense to a new team, but likes what he has seen with team work and process.
“It’s all about process, it really is,” Tarver said. “It’s about teaching progression and processing. Putting everything together in categories so we can progress where we want to go. It’s great that they can see that because now they are putting those things together, going, ‘oh this looks like this. I see myself in this making plays.’ But now we’ve got to do it and we have to do it with 11 guys together.”
Tarver broke into the NFL with the San Francisco 49ers and spent 10 years with the team, most coming as a linebackers coach. Last season he jumped to Stanford to be the co-defensive coordinator and the Cardinal led the Pac 12 in six defense categories. After all he has a master’s degree in biochemistry and molecular biology helping him match wits against the offense.
The first year Raiders’ defensive coordinator wants to utilize multiple defensive looks and schemes. He will be tasked with improving a defense that last season ranked 27th against both the run and the pass. He will use both man and zone coverages. One of the most important aspects Tarver wants to bring to the Raiders is pressure by dialing up blitzes.
“There’s good pressure at times,” Tarver said. “More encouraged is the guys working together and the mindset. It’s about mindset, it’s about I know where I’m going and you’ve got to deal with me.”
There has been much chatter from players like Michael Huff and Richard Seymour that this Raiders defense under Tarver has a chance to be top five. The players love the system because it allows them to be aggressive and make plays. As far as being a top five defense when 2012 is done, Tarver defines good defense in his terms.
“How do you rank a top-five defense” Tarver said. “There’s a lot of ways, but the biggest one is getting the heck off the field and getting the ball to Carson and the guys. That’s the biggest one, that’s what we want to do. The other stats with that, that’s a result of controlling how we get off the field. Third down percentage, red zone touchdown percentage, those are a couple that are good markers.
With the third NFL preseason game widely regarded as the closest to a regular season game as far as starters playing more time and game planning for a specific opponent, Tarver sees the Detroit Lions as a significant challenge. Matthew Stafford, Calvin Johnson and company will give the Raiders defense their best test of the offseason.
“It’s a good order for us,” Tarver said. “You got Dallas that can throw it, and wants to run [the ball] downhill at you. You have Arizona who shifts a little bit and still runs downhill at you, and of course as a good wide receiver. And then you have Detroit that runs it more than most people think they do, but it is a little bit more spread out and they try to get match-ups for their good players. Of course we know the guy with the nickname who is on the cover of ESPN The Magazine this week. But they have other players, and that quarterback he gets it out. It’s kind of a nice progression for us. Facing those three, two styles, and a little slightly different style, with slightly different personnel groups. So we can learn how to use our rules for all our different defenses.”
August 25th, 2012 at 5:02 am
Minnesota Fats (Gleason) steals the show in the best scene in that movie IMO:
Getting his butt kicked (at the beginning of the movie) and heads to the bathroom to wash his hands….Starts over like he is beginning a whole new day….all in a singular moment….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GLB3sg_OXo&feature=related
August 25th, 2012 at 5:04 am
Paul Newman also makes a hell of a pasta sauce.
August 25th, 2012 at 5:06 am
NAPA — It’s at the most basic level of the game and yet, the Raiders spent much of training camp working on perfecting the art of tackling.
Yes, it’s all about desire, but there’s technique involved as well, obviously.
“As a coach you want to help players get better, so you want to put them in positions, No. 1, where they’re not going to hurt themselves, and this is from teaching little kids to NFL players — you’ve got to teach them how to tackle,” said first-year defensive coordinator Jason Tarver. “You’ve got to teach them to keep their hips down and their eyes up and their feet moving and the correct leverage and know where their help is. So we drill it…we emphasize it in the team period. We talk about, for example, if you and I are going to make a tackle and I’m on the outside of you, I’d say, Outside, outside, outside.
“That lets those players know that I’m on his outside. Those little things and knowing where your help is, makes you a better team, makes you a better tackling team. And then, the body position. So knowing where your help is, and the body position on contact are things we’ve emphasized since Day 1. And you can do that without pads on.”
Strong safety Mike Mitchell came into the NFL with a reputation as a hard hitter and has taken Tarver’s lessons to heart, calling him a “baby genius” earlier in camp.
“Tackling is a mentality,” Mitchell said. “I remember a long time ago, a defensive coordinator I had in college was telling us about Vince Lombardi, and he said, ‘Imagine that someone just took everything that you had…and you had to get it back. That’s tackling.’
“It’s more of a mentality and a desire to want to tackle. We can practice it as much as you want, but there’s that moment in the game, and the guy’s got the ball, you got to have that intent and desire to get him down. We’re all professionals, too, I’ve been playing since I was six, but you know how to tackle, you know how to tackle.”
One of the bigger criticisms of middle linebacker Rolando McClain through his first two seasons in the NFL was his tackling, or lack thereof.
Against Dallas in each team’s exhibition opener on Aug. 13, McClain blasted Cowboys tight end Jason Witten hard enough to lacerate his spleen. But he did not tackle him, per se.
“As he was coming off the field, I said that was a great job on a bootleg, like we’ve been working all camp, now wrap him up,” Tarver said, recalling his brief conversation with McClain. “That’s exactly what I told him.”
And that’s exactly what Tarver preached to his defense all camp.
August 25th, 2012 at 5:09 am
NAPA — Richard Seymour has not practiced since Friday night’s exhibition at Arizona, sitting out the last three practices, and while the Raiders defensive tackle has had what’s been described as a troublesome knee early in camp, Seymour sitting out is more a courtesy extended a veteran than anything else.
“It’s not an injury,” said Raiders rookie coach Dennis Allen. “He’s an older veteran guy and his knees get a little sore, so we try to rest him to make sure we get him ready to play.
“When a guy gets more age on him, you have to be careful as far as how much you use him. The deal is we have to get him enough work to get him ready to play, but yet have him ready to play so we can have him for a full 16 games this year.”
Seymour, who turns 33 on Oct. 6, is entering his 12th NFL season.
“I think anytime you go into camp you kind of know at some point in time some of these veteran players are going to need some time off,” Allen said. “He pushed real hard early in camp and then as we kind have gotten into camp, we’ve taken more time off with him.”
Still, Allen said Seymour is expected to play Saturday against Detro
August 25th, 2012 at 5:12 am
Lions 27, Raiders 17
August 25th, 2012 at 5:12 am
NAPA — Raiders center Stefen Wisniewski’s strained calf is not only keeping him from live reps in practice but will most likely keep him out of Oakland’s all-important third exhibition game, Saturday against Detroit.
“I wouldn’t expect him to play this week, no,” Raiders coach Dennis Allen said following practice Wednesday.
Wisniewski, the Raiders’ top draft pick out of Penn State in 2011, is learning a new position after excelling at left guard last year. He was injured, though, in the Raiders’ preseason opener against Dallas on Aug. 13.
So is Wisniewski simply too hurt to play this week, or is it too close to the regular season to risk further injury?
“It’s a little bit of both,” Allen said. “If we were in the regular season could he push through and play? Probably. Maybe. I don’t know.
“We’re not going to take that chance right now in a preseason game.”
Alex Parsons has been taking the first-team snaps at center and no matter who gets the call on Sept. 10, he will be the Raiders’ sixth different starting center in as many years.
August 25th, 2012 at 5:15 am
The score of the Detroit game doesn’t mean jack, just ask Richard Seymour…
August 25th, 2012 at 5:16 am
NAPA — Stefen Wisniewski missed all of the Raiders’ offseason training programs, having undergone shoulder surgery.
And since the Raiders’ first offensive series against Dallas in each team’s exhibition opener, Wisniewski has been sidelined by a strained calf.
Not exactly what you need from a guy making the transition to center from left guard, right?
“He needs to get the reps,” coach Dennis Allen said Tuesday of Wisniewski. “It’s football and you don’t just show up and play, so every day he’s not out here he’s a little bit farther behind.
“But he’s been keeping up mentally as far as taking the mental reps and in the meetings, but it’s hard to replace those physical reps you get here and in games.”
In his place at center, practice squad refugee Alex Parsons has excelled and all-but-solidified his place on the Raiders’ 53-man roster.
“Offseason was awesome,” Parsons said. “The fact that you get he reps and you’re going against the two tough guys, obviously, Tommy Kelly and (Richard) Seymour. The fact that you get the reps, you can have your system down.”
Parsons said he dropped 18 pounds from the end of last season, which is also helping his play. And appearance.
“I look better in white,” Parsons joked. “I don’t have that gut. There’s a huge difference conditioning-wise as well.”
Getting all of Wisniewski’s reps of late does not hurt, either.
“He’s done well,” Allen said. “He’s done well. As a matter of fact, he was competing the whole time and we were impressed with what we’ve seen out of him. Again, we’ve got a next-man-up philosophy. If Wiz is ready to go, great. If not, then it’s next-man-up and Alex will go in there and play and we expect to see results from him, and he’s given us every indication that we’ll see that.”
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Allen said with Jacoby Ford and his sore left foot — he was still walking around in a boot Tuesday after hurting it Friday — unlikely to play and Denarius Moore still nursing a sore hamstring, undrafted rookie Rod Streater would start at one of the receiver spots against Detroit on Saturday.
“Again, next-man-up philosophy,” Allen said. “He’s the next man up on the list. We put him up and go out and do your job.”
Streater has 13 catches for 109 yards in two preseason games.
“He’s been forced into the starting role and because of injuries, it doesn’t seem like he’s earned it,” said quarterback Carson Palmer. “But he can play with the best of them.”
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Free safety Michael Huff returned to the Raiders after being excused last weekend to attend the birth of his daughter, Madeline Rae.
“She was 6 (pounds), 2 (ounces),” Huff said. “She was born (at) 4:24. That’s a great number, the 24. I made sure I pulled her right out at 24. I was looking at the clock.”
For those of you needing a program, yes, Huff wears No. 24.
August 25th, 2012 at 5:20 am
Palmer will get first TD pass. Pryor will score 0 again.
August 25th, 2012 at 5:24 am
NAPA, Calif. — Stefen Wisniewski has a tough enough adjustment to make in his second year in the NFL after having changed positions and blocking systems with the Oakland Raiders.
Injuries that are keeping him off the practice field are only making that job more difficult.
After missing all off-season workouts while recovering from shoulder surgery, Wisniewski has now been sidelined more than a week with an injured calf sustained in the exhibition opener.
The lack of time on the practice field for Wisniewski is becoming a growing concern for the Raiders, who are counting on Wisniewski to anchor the line at center this season as the team adapts to the zone blocking system.
“He needs to get the reps,” coach Dennis Allen said Tuesday. “It’s football and you don’t just show up and play so every day he’s not out here he’s a little bit further behind. But he’s been keeping up mentally as far as taking the mental reps and in the meetings but it’s hard to replace those physical reps you get here and in games.”
Wisniewski suffered the shoulder injury in his rookie season and played through a labrum tear for most of the year. He still was impressive for the most part as a key part of Oakland’s line at left guard, but did struggle at times late in the season.
He had surgery after the season and spent the entire off-season program rehabbing, attending meetings and watching his teammates learn a new system as Oakland moved from a power blocking to a zone blocking scheme that puts more emphasis on quickness than strength for linemen.
“You got to be able to move,” Wisniewski said. “If you look at our O-line, that’s one thing we all can do across the board. We can move, we can run, we’re athletic. So I think it’s going to work for us, especially with the speed we’ve got at running back.”
The Raiders were hoping to give Wisniewski a lot of work in training camp to make up for lost time as he moved to center to replace the departed Samson Satele.
But that ended when he left the exhibition opener against Dallas on Aug. 13 following the first drive with the injured calf. He hasn’t practiced since and with less than three weeks until the season opener against San Diego on Sept. 10, time is of the essence to get Wisniewski ready.
“We talk after every series, every play,” backup center Alex Parsons said. “When we’re out here on the field he’ll come up to me and ask me what happened and what I saw and what he saw and we’ll discuss what happened.”
Parsons has gotten plenty of time to work with the first-team line at center. Parsons originally signed with the Raiders as an undrafted free agent out of Southern California in 2010. He was part of the final cuts after each of his first two training camps, spending two years on the practice squad.
He hopes this is the year he finally sticks.
“It’s tough to see your team out there and you practice with them,” Parsons said. “Last year we didn’t travel to road games. It’s one of those things where you look at your team on TV and you wish you were out there. You just have to make the best of your experience now.”
Parsons came back again this season to Oakland hoping to make the squad on his third try. He lost about 20 pounds, which has made him quicker for the new system.
Now he’s getting a chance to show how that helps him on the field and has impressed his teammates so far.
“We didn’t skip a beat with protection calls, we didn’t skip a beat in the run game,” quarterback Carson Palmer said. “Everything was just kind of flowing and easy and there weren’t any mental mistakes as far as that’s concerned. When you’re in the huddle with a guy and you notice that he’s a rookie, that he’s a guy that hasn’t been in the huddle a bunch, that’s concerning, and it’s not that way at all with Alex.He’s been on top of everything.”
August 25th, 2012 at 5:28 am
OAKLAND — The Detroit Lions have made it through two preseason games so far, but tonight’s game at Oakland is more significant than their recent loss against Cleveland, or last week’s victory against Baltimore.
Tonight will give Lions fans a better look at this year’s team.
Obviously, a win or loss is not that important, but Detroit’s first-teamers need to show consistency and chemistry, while players off the bench must prove they deserve playing time in 2012.
Here are five things to watch during tonight’s preseason game:
Like a rookie again
Lions running back Mikel Leshoure is entering his second NFL season, but has never played in an NFL game. An Achilles tendon injury sidelined Leshoure last year. Leshoure was slowed by a hamstring injury this preseason. It appears Leshoure’s injuries are behind him and he is expected to play tonight. Everyone finally gets a chance to see what Leshoure can do in the NFL.
Bentley back on the road
Rookie cornerback Bill Bentley will have a chance to solidify himself as a starter this season. Bentley started for Detroit in week one of the preseason, but Jacob Lacey received the nod last week. Detroit will likely start Bentley against Oakland at right cornerback, which would indicate it is his position to lose.
Wonderful Wendling
The less safety Louis Delmas practices, the more John Wendling’s odds of starting on opening day increase. Delmas is recovering from knee surgery, and coach Jim Schwartz has not said if his safety will be ready to play against the St. Louis Rams in week one. Wendling is meeting the expectations of defensive coordinator Gunther Cunningham and Schwartz. He can secure their confidence in him with another solid performance.
A special team
It is never a good sign when Schwartz not only threatens to find better players because he was dissatisfied with a special teams performance, but he turns around and signs receiver Kassim Osgood, a specialist in that area. Schwartz has put his players on notice that subpar play on special teams will not be tolerated. If players do respond this week, they will definitely not like Schwartz’s response when he replaces them.
Keep the doctor away
When all is said and done, the most important outcome on Saturday is escaping without injuries. As much as coaches, players and fans want their team to play well, avoiding injuries is the only victory that really counts. If players can return to Detroit healthy, everyone can shift their attention toward St. Louis.
August 25th, 2012 at 5:28 am
Plunketthead, thanks for boring everyone with your cut and paste jobs.
August 25th, 2012 at 5:31 am
Where are all the cool kids? I’m out.
August 25th, 2012 at 5:32 am
Here are five things to keep an eye on Saturday night as the Lions play the Raiders in their third preseason game:
• Leshoure thing: Sixteen months after they drafted him, Mikel Leshoure is finally expected to make his Lions debut. Leshoure tore his Achilles tendon last year and missed most of camp this year with a strained hamstring. He’ll play plenty Saturday as the Lions try to get him ready for the season.
• More: Hope runs deeps for Leshoure’s Lions debut
• Half and half: Matthew Stafford, Calvin Johnson and other starters will play about a half Saturday. Pay close attention, cause this will be your last extended look at them until games count.
• More: QB Kellen Moore locks up Lions’ third-string spot
• Under cover: The Lions struggled mightily on special teams last week against the Ravens. Keep an eye on their coverage and return units Saturday. They made a few minor changes, and some of the faces you’ll see are fighting for jobs.
• Rush hour: Oakland ranked seventh in the NFL in rushing last year, so Darren McFadden and Co. should provide a stern test for a Lions defense that struggled stopping the run at times (5.0 ypc allowed). Remember, Stephen Jackson awaits in Week 1.
• First dance: The Lions’ first-team offense doesn’t have a first-quarter point this preseason. It’s not a huge concern considering how little planning goes into exhibition games. Still, it’d be nice to see Stafford find his rhythm early.
August 25th, 2012 at 6:53 am
Klas pour me a glass of reindeer milk and get ready for Raider football.
August 25th, 2012 at 7:03 am
30 hours till the big one
August 25th, 2012 at 7:08 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
August 25th, 2012 at 4:42 am
Maybe big Reggie can make a trade for Matt Flynn in the off season if Russel is the man in Seattle.
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If Matt Flynn cant beat out a rookie, then do we really want Flynn? Flynn has had plenty of time to develop, he should be ready to take over a starting job and take his lumps. But he’s getting beat out by a guy who just showed up? That’s not a good sign.
We’re going to get 4-6 more seasons out of Palmer. Im all for starting to develop our next guy but lets wait til the 2014 draft to do it.
I want to give Pryor all of this year and all of next to show major progress. He doesnt have to beat out Leinart in that time, but he does need to get himself up to snuff and start showing a linear progression that could indicate he’d be ready to be a first time starter by 2016. We should be able to see that trajectory by the end of next season. If he isnt on schedule, then we get someone in the 2014 draft and cut ties with Pryor or make him a TE.
By 2014, Palmer is 34-35. For 2015-16, we let our developmental QB develop on the bench.
We shouldnt be looking forward to anyone else starting a game but Palmer until 2016-17 IMO.
August 25th, 2012 at 7:11 am
Tarver has a master’s degree in biochemistry and molecular biology helping him match wits against the offense.
He has to be the “smartest” coach in the NFL.
August 25th, 2012 at 7:25 am
ATTENTION KLAS!!!
A hospital in Sweden reportedly published an ad seeking nurses with “TV-series hot” looks.
You need to quit your job at the library and get over to this hospital and get a job A.S.A.P. Even if it a janitor job.
Good lookin out me thinks.
You could teach them all the safety dance Klas and maybe how to read.
August 25th, 2012 at 7:26 am
Four, maybe five teams start a rookie QB in the first game this year. It will be hard to stay away from the youth movement.
Unless DA thinks TP is the man for the future.
August 25th, 2012 at 7:28 am
He has to be the “smartest” coach in the NFL
I don’t care if he is as stupid as a box of rocks as long as we put up good numbers. Freakin Gomer Pyle could be our head coach for all I care.
JUST WIN BABY!!!
A NEW ERA OF EXCELLENCE
August 25th, 2012 at 7:31 am
It is about time for chargerdown to make his annual preseason appearence to inform us that Rivers is #1 and this is the year the dolts go to the promised land.
He has not been the same since Candy Galore left him for shawn merriman
August 25th, 2012 at 7:39 am
Not sure if some Semi’s remember or not, but in the days before the draft two years ago, I shared a story and a link about NFL GM’s being wary of Nigerian born players, with the perception that they were not tough enough or lacked passion for football.
It was all about that Prince guy, now with the Giants, who eventually slipped in the draft.
Now two years later, his team is dunking him in ice tubes to “give him an edge” and he has to be carted off the field with an ankle sprain.
People told me, especially KoolKell who couldn’t quite grasp the difference between a Nigerian BORN player and a guy with Nigerian heritage but born in the US, I was nuts and so was the NFL.
Not so much, it appears.
August 25th, 2012 at 7:42 am
And as far as Jay Cutler, not only do I feel he is better than Carson Palmer, I feel he is better than Tony Romo, Philip Rivers, Matt Schaubb and Matt Ryan as well.
August 25th, 2012 at 7:56 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 25th, 2012 at 7:39 am
Not sure if some Semi’s remember or not, but in the days before the draft two years ago, I shared a story and a link about NFL GM’s being wary of Nigerian born players, with the perception that they were not tough enough or lacked passion for football.
It was all about that Prince guy, now with the Giants, who eventually slipped in the draft.
Now two years later, his team is dunking him in ice tubes to “give him an edge” and he has to be carted off the field with an ankle sprain.
People told me, especially KoolKell who couldn’t quite grasp the difference between a Nigerian BORN player and a guy with Nigerian heritage but born in the US, I was nuts and so was the NFL.
Not so much, it appears.
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Any other examples?
August 25th, 2012 at 7:59 am
I recall watching Cutler as a mule warming up to play us and I have rarely seen a QB whip it like that.
Just a natural follow throw motion. More like throwing a fastball then a football.
August 25th, 2012 at 7:59 am
JFB.
I like Jay Cutler as well, as a football fan I enjoy watching that guy throw the ball, to me Cutler and Jeff George are the most natural passers to come into the league since Dan Marino, both had an odd throwing motion and release as opposed to the text-book Montana, Manning or Rodgers over-the-head classic style but those two can laser that ball anywhere in the field in a hurry.
Cutler has already showed much more toughness than George ever did, so the comparison was purely about throwing the ball efficiently, fast and to the spot.
August 25th, 2012 at 8:09 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
August 25th, 2012 at 4:42 am
Maybe big Reggie can make a trade for Matt Flynn in the off season if Russel is the man in Seattle.
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I know Wilson looked good, but I don’t see how he can start over Flynn after the contract he signed. Was listening to Pat Kirwan on Sirius who is good friends with Pete Carrol. He thinks it will be Flynn opening day.
August 25th, 2012 at 8:12 am
Any other examples?
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Amobi Okoye, who was super-smart and talented, and has already had two teams give up on him before he was 22 years old.
Jeff Otah, known as a loafer and not going to live up to his immense talents.
And of course Prince.
This is from the article I mentioned:
“And there may have been more to the story. A lot of NFL people are skeptical about Nigerian players like Amukarma. “And it’s not just white men,” one executive said. “It’s whites and blacks.” It’s still a subtle form of racism. The word on Nigerians: they are soft, not tough enough and too educated. It would be a pity if that’s what cost Amukamara.”
August 25th, 2012 at 8:17 am
Is the game on at 7 EST or PAC? I’m seeing conflicting times.
August 25th, 2012 at 8:20 am
Cutler would have made a good Raider. Sad but true.
August 25th, 2012 at 8:22 am
Eastern time Carl
August 25th, 2012 at 8:23 am
Plunketthead Says:
August 25th, 2012 at 7:11 am
Tarver has a master’s degree in biochemistry and molecular biology helping him match wits against the offense.
He has to be the “smartest” coach in the NFL.
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I enjoying watching his interviews. You can tell there is a lot going on behind those eyes.
On a side note: something tells me he is good with growing plants.
August 25th, 2012 at 8:24 am
7 EST should be..
August 25th, 2012 at 8:28 am
Thanks guys.
August 25th, 2012 at 8:34 am
Looking at our roster we have some 3rd and 4th year guys that have to, and should, have break out seasons.
Shaugnesssy, Houston, Mitchell, McClain, DHB, Veldheer, Myers & Ford were all drafted in2010 or 2009. If these guys all step up and have a solid season, we’ll be in good shape come January.
August 25th, 2012 at 8:41 am
ust Fire Baby Says:
August 25th, 2012 at 8:12 am
Any other examples?
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Amobi Okoye, who was super-smart and talented, and has already had two teams give up on him before he was 22 years old.
Jeff Otah, known as a loafer and not going to live up to his immense talents.
And of course Prince.
This is from the article I mentioned:
“And there may have been more to the story. A lot of NFL people are skeptical about Nigerian players like Amukarma. “And it’s not just white men,” one executive said. “It’s whites and blacks.” It’s still a subtle form of racism. The word on Nigerians: they are soft, not tough enough and too educated. It would be a pity if that’s what cost Amukamara.”
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Don’t question whether or not comments were made. No surprise that a “subtle form of racism exists”. Still see it with black QBs. But you’ve got to be careful not to cherry pick a few guys that haven’t worked out so far to validate this stuff. Okoye wouldn’t be the 1st guy at his position not to meet expectations. And Otah has been dealing with a bum knee for most of his career. The guy had a really good rookie season. There’s talk that the Jets are going to bring him back. The article actually made a distinction between Nigerian-born and 1st generation guys??
August 25th, 2012 at 8:47 am
Christian Okoye, that was a tough SOB to brig down.
August 25th, 2012 at 8:59 am
Anybody else unable to post a message in the “new” post or is it just me?
August 25th, 2012 at 9:08 am
The “subtle form of racism” that exists for black qb’s also exists for white rb’s if we’re talking about a predisposition or preformed opinions.
White Rb = slow…maybe a bruiser if he’s a rb at all.
Black qb= Athletic…running types of qb…never a drop back passer….well RARELY.
One thing about Al is he didn’t care. Mark Van Eeghan is in the team photo of the best white rb’s of all time probably…imagine that.
3 straight yrs. of over 1,000 yds….back when it meant something in a 14 game season and finished 2nd in the NFL in rushing in ‘78. Of course he had that great o-line, but he is the exception.
Who else can u throw out there? Craig James?
August 25th, 2012 at 9:09 am
People told me, especially KoolKell who couldn’t quite grasp the difference between a Nigerian BORN player and a guy with Nigerian heritage but born in the US, I was nuts and so was the NFL.
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I don’t remember saying anything like that.
August 25th, 2012 at 9:11 am
Sitting at the Ferry Terminal in Annacortes waiting on the Fery to Lopez Isle.
August 25th, 2012 at 9:11 am
HOLLA
deuce placin and tailgatin. gonna be a busy day for me and my girlfriend and guests comin over to stand on the floor and bend over. will post the sizes as we drop them for the prizes.
FO DIGGLE WIGGLE
August 25th, 2012 at 9:16 am
424.DJ Johnny Says:
August 25th, 2012 at 8:59 am
Anybody else unable to post a message in the “new” post or is it just me?
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It’s not just you, guess that’s why we are all in here. Pretty pumped about the game that’s for sure. Another thing that is for sure is Miss Bee get’s a little nastier everyday. Good hell that is “NASTY”
HOLLA THAT
August 25th, 2012 at 9:18 am
KoolKell Says:
August 25th, 2012 at 9:11 am
Sitting at the Ferry Terminal in Annacortes waiting on the Fery to Lopez Isle.
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Hope you get a soon sailing. Last time I was there we made the third ferry. Place was packed like a sardine can. The Puget Sound is pretty cool.
August 25th, 2012 at 9:20 am
We get in line an hour early, we’re fine. It’s beautiful weather too.
August 25th, 2012 at 9:40 am
It is very nice weather today. Supposed to be all rain next week.
August 25th, 2012 at 10:04 am
Beautiful weather at the Alamo as well:)