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Raiders live chat today at noon

Join Bay Area News Group writer Steve Corkran for a live chat today at noon as the Oakland Raiders prepare for their Saturday exhibition game against the Detroit Lions.

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  • Plunketthead

    30 hours till the big one

  • Raider Riff

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 25th, 2012 at 4:42 am
    Maybe big Reggie can make a trade for Matt Flynn in the off season if Russel is the man in Seattle.

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    If Matt Flynn cant beat out a rookie, then do we really want Flynn? Flynn has had plenty of time to develop, he should be ready to take over a starting job and take his lumps. But he’s getting beat out by a guy who just showed up? That’s not a good sign.

    We’re going to get 4-6 more seasons out of Palmer. Im all for starting to develop our next guy but lets wait til the 2014 draft to do it.

    I want to give Pryor all of this year and all of next to show major progress. He doesnt have to beat out Leinart in that time, but he does need to get himself up to snuff and start showing a linear progression that could indicate he’d be ready to be a first time starter by 2016. We should be able to see that trajectory by the end of next season. If he isnt on schedule, then we get someone in the 2014 draft and cut ties with Pryor or make him a TE.

    By 2014, Palmer is 34-35. For 2015-16, we let our developmental QB develop on the bench.

    We shouldnt be looking forward to anyone else starting a game but Palmer until 2016-17 IMO.

  • Plunketthead

    Tarver has a master’s degree in biochemistry and molecular biology helping him match wits against the offense.

    He has to be the “smartest” coach in the NFL.

  • jesusraiderjim

    ATTENTION KLAS!!!

    A hospital in Sweden reportedly published an ad seeking nurses with “TV-series hot” looks.

    You need to quit your job at the library and get over to this hospital and get a job A.S.A.P. Even if it a janitor job.
    Good lookin out me thinks.

    You could teach them all the safety dance Klas and maybe how to read.

  • Plunketthead

    Four, maybe five teams start a rookie QB in the first game this year. It will be hard to stay away from the youth movement.
    Unless DA thinks TP is the man for the future.

  • jesusraiderjim

    He has to be the “smartest” coach in the NFL

    I don’t care if he is as stupid as a box of rocks as long as we put up good numbers. Freakin Gomer Pyle could be our head coach for all I care.

    JUST WIN BABY!!!
    A NEW ERA OF EXCELLENCE

  • Plunketthead

    It is about time for chargerdown to make his annual preseason appearence to inform us that Rivers is #1 and this is the year the dolts go to the promised land.

    He has not been the same since Candy Galore left him for shawn merriman

  • Just Fire Baby

    Not sure if some Semi’s remember or not, but in the days before the draft two years ago, I shared a story and a link about NFL GM’s being wary of Nigerian born players, with the perception that they were not tough enough or lacked passion for football.

    It was all about that Prince guy, now with the Giants, who eventually slipped in the draft.

    Now two years later, his team is dunking him in ice tubes to “give him an edge” and he has to be carted off the field with an ankle sprain.

    People told me, especially KoolKell who couldn’t quite grasp the difference between a Nigerian BORN player and a guy with Nigerian heritage but born in the US, I was nuts and so was the NFL.

    Not so much, it appears.

  • Just Fire Baby

    And as far as Jay Cutler, not only do I feel he is better than Carson Palmer, I feel he is better than Tony Romo, Philip Rivers, Matt Schaubb and Matt Ryan as well.

  • RaiderDebo

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    August 25th, 2012 at 7:39 am
    Not sure if some Semi’s remember or not, but in the days before the draft two years ago, I shared a story and a link about NFL GM’s being wary of Nigerian born players, with the perception that they were not tough enough or lacked passion for football.

    It was all about that Prince guy, now with the Giants, who eventually slipped in the draft.

    Now two years later, his team is dunking him in ice tubes to “give him an edge” and he has to be carted off the field with an ankle sprain.

    People told me, especially KoolKell who couldn’t quite grasp the difference between a Nigerian BORN player and a guy with Nigerian heritage but born in the US, I was nuts and so was the NFL.

    Not so much, it appears.
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    Any other examples?

  • Plunketthead

    I recall watching Cutler as a mule warming up to play us and I have rarely seen a QB whip it like that.
    Just a natural follow throw motion. More like throwing a fastball then a football.

  • http://000 Bob Marley

    JFB.

    I like Jay Cutler as well, as a football fan I enjoy watching that guy throw the ball, to me Cutler and Jeff George are the most natural passers to come into the league since Dan Marino, both had an odd throwing motion and release as opposed to the text-book Montana, Manning or Rodgers over-the-head classic style but those two can laser that ball anywhere in the field in a hurry.

    Cutler has already showed much more toughness than George ever did, so the comparison was purely about throwing the ball efficiently, fast and to the spot.

  • RaiderDebo

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 25th, 2012 at 4:42 am
    Maybe big Reggie can make a trade for Matt Flynn in the off season if Russel is the man in Seattle.

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    I know Wilson looked good, but I don’t see how he can start over Flynn after the contract he signed. Was listening to Pat Kirwan on Sirius who is good friends with Pete Carrol. He thinks it will be Flynn opening day.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Any other examples?

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    Amobi Okoye, who was super-smart and talented, and has already had two teams give up on him before he was 22 years old.

    Jeff Otah, known as a loafer and not going to live up to his immense talents.

    And of course Prince.

    This is from the article I mentioned:

    “And there may have been more to the story. A lot of NFL people are skeptical about Nigerian players like Amukarma. “And it’s not just white men,” one executive said. “It’s whites and blacks.” It’s still a subtle form of racism. The word on Nigerians: they are soft, not tough enough and too educated. It would be a pity if that’s what cost Amukamara.”

  • Carl Weathers

    Is the game on at 7 EST or PAC? I’m seeing conflicting times.

  • Raider Riff

    Cutler would have made a good Raider. Sad but true.

  • Raider Riff

    Eastern time Carl

  • morilla

    Plunketthead Says:
    August 25th, 2012 at 7:11 am
    Tarver has a master’s degree in biochemistry and molecular biology helping him match wits against the offense.

    He has to be the “smartest” coach in the NFL.
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    I enjoying watching his interviews. You can tell there is a lot going on behind those eyes.

    On a side note: something tells me he is good with growing plants.

  • TxRaider210

    7 EST should be..

  • Carl Weathers

    Thanks guys.

  • Carl Weathers

    Looking at our roster we have some 3rd and 4th year guys that have to, and should, have break out seasons.

    Shaugnesssy, Houston, Mitchell, McClain, DHB, Veldheer, Myers & Ford were all drafted in2010 or 2009. If these guys all step up and have a solid season, we’ll be in good shape come January.

  • RaiderDebo

    ust Fire Baby Says:
    August 25th, 2012 at 8:12 am
    Any other examples?

    **********************

    Amobi Okoye, who was super-smart and talented, and has already had two teams give up on him before he was 22 years old.

    Jeff Otah, known as a loafer and not going to live up to his immense talents.

    And of course Prince.

    This is from the article I mentioned:

    “And there may have been more to the story. A lot of NFL people are skeptical about Nigerian players like Amukarma. “And it’s not just white men,” one executive said. “It’s whites and blacks.” It’s still a subtle form of racism. The word on Nigerians: they are soft, not tough enough and too educated. It would be a pity if that’s what cost Amukamara.”
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    Don’t question whether or not comments were made. No surprise that a “subtle form of racism exists”. Still see it with black QBs. But you’ve got to be careful not to cherry pick a few guys that haven’t worked out so far to validate this stuff. Okoye wouldn’t be the 1st guy at his position not to meet expectations. And Otah has been dealing with a bum knee for most of his career. The guy had a really good rookie season. There’s talk that the Jets are going to bring him back. The article actually made a distinction between Nigerian-born and 1st generation guys??

  • http://000 Bob Marley

    Christian Okoye, that was a tough SOB to brig down.

  • DJ Johnny

    Anybody else unable to post a message in the “new” post or is it just me?

  • DJ Johnny

    The “subtle form of racism” that exists for black qb’s also exists for white rb’s if we’re talking about a predisposition or preformed opinions.

    White Rb = slow…maybe a bruiser if he’s a rb at all.

    Black qb= Athletic…running types of qb…never a drop back passer….well RARELY.

    One thing about Al is he didn’t care. Mark Van Eeghan is in the team photo of the best white rb’s of all time probably…imagine that.

    3 straight yrs. of over 1,000 yds….back when it meant something in a 14 game season and finished 2nd in the NFL in rushing in ’78. Of course he had that great o-line, but he is the exception.

    Who else can u throw out there? Craig James?

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    People told me, especially KoolKell who couldn’t quite grasp the difference between a Nigerian BORN player and a guy with Nigerian heritage but born in the US, I was nuts and so was the NFL.
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    I don’t remember saying anything like that.

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    Sitting at the Ferry Terminal in Annacortes waiting on the Fery to Lopez Isle.

  • Missus Beeecham (Comment Awaiting Moderation)

    HOLLA

    deuce placin and tailgatin. gonna be a busy day for me and my girlfriend and guests comin over to stand on the floor and bend over. will post the sizes as we drop them for the prizes.

    FO DIGGLE WIGGLE

  • jesusraiderjim

    424.DJ Johnny Says:
    August 25th, 2012 at 8:59 am
    Anybody else unable to post a message in the “new” post or is it just me?

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    It’s not just you, guess that’s why we are all in here. Pretty pumped about the game that’s for sure. Another thing that is for sure is Miss Bee get’s a little nastier everyday. Good hell that is “NASTY”
    HOLLA THAT

  • Gomer

    KoolKell Says:
    August 25th, 2012 at 9:11 am
    Sitting at the Ferry Terminal in Annacortes waiting on the Fery to Lopez Isle.
    …………..

    Hope you get a soon sailing. Last time I was there we made the third ferry. Place was packed like a sardine can. The Puget Sound is pretty cool.

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    We get in line an hour early, we’re fine. It’s beautiful weather too.

  • Gomer

    It is very nice weather today. Supposed to be all rain next week.

  • TxRaider210

    Beautiful weather at the Alamo as well:)