Final: Raiders 31, Lions 20
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Saturday, August 25th, 2012 at 7:28 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Many fans probably didn’t even realize the Raiders had lost six consecutive preseason games, but they’ll remember the night they broke the streak thanks to Terrelle Pryor.
If the Raiders’ coaching staff wasn’t thinking about putting in some specialty packages for the second-year quarterback out of Ohio State, they are now after Pryor led the Raiders to a 31-20 win over the Detroit Lions Saturday at O.co Coliseum.
Pryor scored on a 17-yard run and threw touchdown passes of 40 and 76 yards to rookie Juron Criner in the second half, setting up his scoring run with a 59-yard dash to put Oakland up 17-13 with 30 seconds left in the third quarter.
The extra playing time came because backup quarterback Matt Leinart was held out with a laceration on the index finger of his right hand.
Before giving way to Kyle Newhall-Caballero at the two-minute warning, Pryor was 3-for-5 for 137 yards and two touchdowns and rushed for 90 yards on five carries and a touchdown. One of the incompletions came on a drop by Criner which would have resulted in a first down.
Pryor, opened the second half in place of starter Carson Palmer, woke up a sparse crowd on the initial scoring drive, accounting for 76 yards of a 77-yard drive on back to back plays.
On the first run, Pryor rolled to his right, found a lane on third-and-6 and sprinted all the way to the 17-yard line. On the second, he spun out of a a sack attempt, then set sail for the right pylon. He just got there, with the help of a push block from Owen Schmitt.
The touchdown passes to Criner may have been even more impressive, because everyone knew Pryor could run the ball.
On the 40-yard score, Pryor threw the ball high down the right sideline and allowed Criner to do the rest, making a leaping catch and falling into the end zone and scoring.
Moments before, Pryor had an interception negated on an illegal hands-to-the-face penalty on Detroit.
Pryor’s second touchdown came as he broke right and found Criner in stride. Criner caught the ball with his fingertips in stride and raced to the touchdown despite a hold on Detroit.
– The Lions scored on a 10-yard touchdown pass from Kellen Moore to Alex Gottleib with 3:32 left. Detroit drove 69 yards in 10 plays for the score following the second Pryor-to-Criner touchdown.
– Detroit took a 13-10 lead on a 7-yard pass from Shaun Hill to Brandon Pettigrew with 9:33 left in the third quarter.
The score at the end of a 10-play, 72-yard drive was made possible by a roughing the passer penalty on Tommy Kelly on a play which had resulted in an interception by Matt Giordano.
– The Raiders piled up a 247-91 advantage in total offense, had 18 first downs to five for the Lions and had the ball for 18:21 to 11:39 yet held a three-point halftime lead only because Eddy Carmona boomed a 56-yard field goal at the gun.
Palmer orchestrated an eight-play, 34-yard drive in 57 seconds to put Oakland in position after a Detroit punt.
Included was a 5-yard Palmer pass to Rod Streater on third-and-3 to the Oakland 40, a pair of 7-yard passes to Brandon Myers and two 4-yard throws to Jones out of the backfield.
– Palmer was 17 of 26 for 181yards in the first half with two interceptions, although one was a well-thrown ball that bounced out of the hands of wide receiver Eddie McGee and into the hands of linebacker Stephen Tulloch.
The other, a forced screen into traffic that was stolen by defensive end Willie Young at the 7, ended up not being a factor because the Oakland defense held on downs.
Palmer’s best throw was a 41-yard strike to Darrius Heyward-Bey during their first-half scoring drive against Justin Miller. He gave way to Pryor to start the second half.
- Stafford did not return after an injury to his non-throwing hand in the first half, with Hill taking over with 6:18 left in the half. Stafford was 8-for-10 for 68 yards at the time of his departure.
– Wide receiver Calvin Johnson, who torched the Raiders for nine receptions, 214 yards and two touchdowns when the teams met last Dec. 18 at the Coliseum, had one reception for seven yards in the first half.
– Sure to attract the attention of the coaching staff during film review were four pre-snap violations in the first quarter, a pair of false starts by right guard Mike Brisiel and neutral zone infractions by defensive ends Matt Shaughnessy and Dave Tollefson.
– Players who made their preseason debut were Jones, tight end Brandon Myers, defensive end Jack Crawford and punter Shane Lechler. Lechler had a modest 41-yard punt on his first attempt.
Lecher’s second punt got better results _ Patrick Edwards called for a fair catch of a 46-yard punt at the Detroit 5-yard line.
Myers caught five passes for 41 yards.
– Those who did not suit up for the Raiders were Leinart, wide receiver Jacoby Ford (foot), wide receiver Denarius Moore (hamstring), linebacker Aaron Curry (knees), center Stefen Wisniewski (calf), tackle Ed Wang (shoulder), tackle Zach Hurd (head) and defensive tackle Richard Seymour (rest).
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August 25th, 2012 at 7:28 pm
1st
August 25th, 2012 at 7:29 pm
Debo is the clown too.
August 25th, 2012 at 7:30 pm
a pair of false starts by right guard Mike Brisiel
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Not feeling that Brisiel signing as much as I was a month ago.
August 25th, 2012 at 7:30 pm
Yay
August 25th, 2012 at 7:31 pm
Remember the Debbie Downers who were all wailing and gnashing their teeth after the first two games? Watch them now go on and on about how the preseason doesn’t really matter after all.
I expect Al_is_theraiders and Blacksilverside to adopt this meme with a vengeance.
August 25th, 2012 at 7:31 pm
how many penalties for the 1st string?
August 25th, 2012 at 7:31 pm
Stay on the bench ford
August 25th, 2012 at 7:31 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 25th, 2012 at 7:27 pm
You told us, completely out of the blue BTW, that VY is playing great and will start ahead of Fitz some time this year.
Fitz is a tad overpaid, and won’t see the whole 6 years of his contract.
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Don’t remember saying that, I think you have me mixed up with somebody else. But I wouldn’t rule out Fitz getting benched. He’s been hot garbage since the seond half of last year. Glad to hear Fitz’s contract keeps you up nights too.
August 25th, 2012 at 7:31 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 25th, 2012 at 7:30 pm
a pair of false starts by right guard Mike Brisiel
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Not feeling that Brisiel signing as much as I was a month ago.
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He made a couple of mistakes but he didn’t give up any sacks to Suh or anyone else so all’s well.
August 25th, 2012 at 7:32 pm
Let’s see if we get the same massive overreaction as we did the previous weeks, only the opposite side of it.
August 25th, 2012 at 7:32 pm
Trade Pryor right now. His stock will never be higher than it is right now! Lmao
August 25th, 2012 at 7:32 pm
DHB, Moore, Streeter, Ford, Criner in that order.
August 25th, 2012 at 7:33 pm
Reggies rookies looked good
August 25th, 2012 at 7:33 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
August 25th, 2012 at 7:31 pm
Remember the Debbie Downers who were all wailing and gnashing their teeth after the first two games? Watch them now go on and on about how the preseason doesn’t really matter after all.
I expect Al_is_theraiders and Blacksilverside to adopt this meme with a vengeance.
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Ummm, are you saying that your excited about our 1st team O??
August 25th, 2012 at 7:33 pm
Feel much better about Pryor now. He could be a NFL QB. Better than Tebow, but not as good a passer as Cam Newton.
August 25th, 2012 at 7:34 pm
Klas Tjorborn Says:
August 25th, 2012 at 7:32 pm
DHB, Moore, Streeter, Ford, Criner in that order.
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Close, but I’d put Criner ahead of Ford.
August 25th, 2012 at 7:34 pm
Debo,
Why do you think it keeps “me up at night”?
Football has a salary cap, and their are player moves in the league BY EVERY TEAM based STRICTLY on the financials.
You can choose to ignore it if you like, I choose to pay attention to it.
August 25th, 2012 at 7:34 pm
Raider Debo = Mistic
August 25th, 2012 at 7:34 pm
Satisfying effort tonite. Palmer played ok mostly, with one stupid throw on the screen. Pryor improved 1000%, but I still think Leinhart has played well enough to still be #2.. Maybe that could change next week.
Beasts: DMAC, Taiwan, Streater, Burris, Cumbie, Pryor, and of course Criner.
Eddie McGee should be gone Mon.
Our first offense moved the ball great.. we need to be able to punch it in more easily. Defense wasn’t bad either.. Megatron was a nonfactor.
August 25th, 2012 at 7:35 pm
Marks Hair Says:
August 25th, 2012 at 7:33 pm
Reggies rookies looked good
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YEP.
I love Seymour but if we werent on the hook for so much with him, he’d been cut about 3 minutes ago.
August 25th, 2012 at 7:35 pm
What’s with Anderson today? Keeps falling down. Not a good way of making the team.
August 25th, 2012 at 7:36 pm
Palmer is the man. If he gets hurt, though, could be real QB controversy and fans will want Pryor over Leinart.
August 25th, 2012 at 7:36 pm
I wouldnt give up on McGee yet. He’s our 6th WR.
August 25th, 2012 at 7:37 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 25th, 2012 at 7:34 pm
Debo,
Why do you think it keeps “me up at night”?
Football has a salary cap, and their are player moves in the league BY EVERY TEAM based STRICTLY on the financials.
You can choose to ignore it if you like, I choose to pay attention to it.
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Yeah, right.
August 25th, 2012 at 7:37 pm
Klas,luckily the fans opinion doesn’t count.
August 25th, 2012 at 7:38 pm
Streater & Criner, all-rookie team.
August 25th, 2012 at 7:39 pm
Meanwhile, the defense continues to look good…
August 25th, 2012 at 7:39 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
August 25th, 2012 at 7:38 pm
Streater & Criner, all-rookie team.
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Streater and Criner=good depth.
August 25th, 2012 at 7:39 pm
Thanks again for the vipbox tip. I went HDMI from my laptop to my big tv and it was just fine.
August 25th, 2012 at 7:40 pm
Cut that fatass Seabass!
August 25th, 2012 at 7:41 pm
Lefty12 Says:
August 25th, 2012 at 7:39 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
August 25th, 2012 at 7:38 pm
Streater & Criner, all-rookie team.
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Streater and Criner=good depth.
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Streater will contribute greatly. Could be our go to 3rd down guy.
August 25th, 2012 at 7:41 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
August 25th, 2012 at 7:39 pm
Meanwhile, the defense continues to look good…
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Gotta think our LB corps is improved big time
August 25th, 2012 at 7:41 pm
ohioraider Says:
August 25th, 2012 at 7:40 pm
Cut that fatass Seabass!
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Agreed!
We have a better kicker who is probably a better person as well.
August 25th, 2012 at 7:41 pm
we still have one big concern – The short yardage runner. Taking 4 downs at the 1 makes me think we got Bush back. ZBS sucks on the goal line. We need our own Refrigerator Perry. Line-up double TE with Barksdale & Barnes at ORT & ORTE in the Elephant package, Schmidt at FB, Pryor @ QB & Houston as our own Refrigerator Perry RB. That should get us the needed yardage & score.
August 25th, 2012 at 7:41 pm
PlunkforHOF Says:
August 25th, 2012 at 7:39 pm
Thanks again for the vipbox tip. I went HDMI from my laptop to my big tv and it was just fine.
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Am I the only one whose browser said I was getting a virus? I had to bail out on that site and find another link.
August 25th, 2012 at 7:42 pm
I said it when we drafted him….
TP had stats in college that were almost identical to Cam Newton.
August 25th, 2012 at 7:42 pm
Coach Allen on Pryor-he is still a work in progress but he made strides today.Great assessment.
August 25th, 2012 at 7:42 pm
How does it feel?We actually don’t have a problem at QB.
We have guys that can play that most important of all positions.I can’t remember having this feeling since I was young.
August 25th, 2012 at 7:43 pm
I could see coaching staff giving more snaps to Criner and Streater over in order to preserve Ford for the return game.
August 25th, 2012 at 7:43 pm
On goal line situations, should put Pryor in the game. It would give defense another runner to look out for.
August 25th, 2012 at 7:43 pm
JB Says:
August 25th, 2012 at 7:41 pm
we still have one big concern – The short yardage runner. Taking 4 downs at the 1 makes me think we got Bush back. ZBS sucks on the goal line. We need our own Refrigerator Perry. Line-up double TE with Barksdale & Barnes at ORT & ORTE in the Elephant package, Schmidt at FB, Pryor @ QB & Houston as our own Refrigerator Perry RB. That should get us the needed yardage & score.
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You can’t do that anymore. They changed the rules.
August 25th, 2012 at 7:43 pm
A little sloppy, but we looked pretty good. You can definitely tell the difference in game-planning vs. vanilla. Our short yardage still needs work, but we’re solid. And Pryor looked awesome.
August 25th, 2012 at 7:44 pm
Klas Tjorborn Says:
August 25th, 2012 at 7:43 pm
On goal line situations, should put Pryor in the game. It would give defense another runner to look out for.
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We may be doing that this year. No way they’d give something like that away in the preseason…
August 25th, 2012 at 7:44 pm
Pryor is our best running back.
I’m not joking.
August 25th, 2012 at 7:44 pm
Carona = mvp
August 25th, 2012 at 7:45 pm
Kirk, what rule? You mentioned that the other day & I asked about the rule. Got no response. So, please elaborate.
August 25th, 2012 at 7:47 pm
From Bill Williamson at ESPN:
“It looks like Nate Kaeding is going to hold off Nick Novak in the kicking competition unless the Chargers pull a surprise. Kaeding had field goals of 50 and 54 yards Friday night. If he is out of luck in San Diego, Novak is working to get a job somewhere as he nailed a 45-yarder with four seconds to go to give the Chargers the win.”
August 25th, 2012 at 7:48 pm
PlunkforHOF Says:
August 25th, 2012 at 7:41 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
August 25th, 2012 at 7:39 pm
Meanwhile, the defense continues to look good…
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Gotta think our LB corps is improved big time
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Phillip Wheeler may be the reason for that.
August 25th, 2012 at 7:48 pm
Palmers arm looks a little looser then the first two games. Seems to be getting more relaxed. I still hate all that dink and dunk crap. TP was boss. I would love to see that show for a whole game. It would kill our defense tho.
August 25th, 2012 at 7:50 pm
Kirk Says:
August 25th, 2012 at 7:44 pm
Pryor is our best running back.
I’m not joking.
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May be right but I have no idea what DMac’s arm is like.
August 25th, 2012 at 7:52 pm
Yeah, right.
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“Yeah right” what?
Did I not tell you what would happen with Kam Wimbley? Jamarcus Russell?
Those were financial decisions, strictly.
August 25th, 2012 at 7:52 pm
Tp in the wild cat with dmac and Taiwan. I’d fear that
August 25th, 2012 at 7:54 pm
Or put TP in at Wing TE and run some jet plays.
August 25th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
Terror Pryor did tear it up like I was hoping he would, I like when the raider commentators mentioned it was AD’s last pick. Hell yea he even thtew a good block on that tj run. Some gd confidence for him and us fanz.
August 25th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
lefty12 Says:
August 25th, 2012 at 7:42 pm
Coach Allen on Pryor-he is still a work in progress but he made strides today.Great assessment.
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DA might be accused of ’stating the obvious’.But I’m real happy for the kid coz he wants so bad too be good.
August 25th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
JB Says:
August 25th, 2012 at 7:45 pm
Kirk, what rule? You mentioned that the other day & I asked about the rule. Got no response. So, please elaborate.
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They won’t let linemen line up in the backfield and run the ball anymore.
August 25th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
Russell wasn’t a financial decision. He was a financial disaster. He already received the majority of his contract. Davis saw the writing on the wall & just decided to cut his losses & move on.
Wimbley was drastically overpaid & quite rankly, he wasn’t all that good. Last year his sacks mainly came against the same 3rd string San Diego OLT. He was a liability against both the run & pass. Good riddance. Wheeler is a BIG upgrade.
August 25th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
Now who to cut…. who to keep….
August 25th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
On the goal line and need a quick score? Don’t run it up the middle. Pitch it outside to McFadden.
August 25th, 2012 at 7:58 pm
Kirk Says:
August 25th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
JB Says:
August 25th, 2012 at 7:45 pm
Kirk, what rule? You mentioned that the other day & I asked about the rule. Got no response. So, please elaborate.
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They won’t let linemen line up in the backfield and run the ball anymore.
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Is there a rule against a RB lining up on the Line? If not, let’s just give him a RB # and call him a RB.
August 25th, 2012 at 7:59 pm
I remember when we picked TP, there were people here ragging on the pick.
TP was a bargain.
August 25th, 2012 at 7:59 pm
JB Says:
August 25th, 2012 at 7:58 pm
Kirk Says:
August 25th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
JB Says:
August 25th, 2012 at 7:45 pm
Kirk, what rule? You mentioned that the other day & I asked about the rule. Got no response. So, please elaborate.
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They won’t let linemen line up in the backfield and run the ball anymore.
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Is there a rule against a RB lining up on the Line? If not, let’s just give him a RB # and call him a RB.
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You can’t do that either.
August 25th, 2012 at 8:02 pm
Some of you fools sound like the same dudes talking that mess about Vick when he got out of jail= “wildcat”-”Good running back”- “Can’t throw” LOL
TP will eventually be the Raiders starting QB most likely this year since CP has a track record of not being able to run a WCO. Get used to it. TP is improving every game.
August 25th, 2012 at 8:03 pm
RNOraiderFan Says:
August 25th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
Now who to cut…. who to keep….
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No sh!t.Kinda hate this part of it.The NFL is ‘what have you done for me in the last five minutes?’The ultimate ‘instant gratification’ gig.I’m still watching it so what does that say?
August 25th, 2012 at 8:03 pm
I told you get of crybaby palmer! Another worst performance as far as I’m concerned.
Spuds should be worried about hanging on to this loser! TPryor is the man! Seabass, what the flip were you thinking? great showing for tonight. Get rid of Palmer and Leinart! Losers. Go Raiders!
August 25th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
August 25th, 2012 at 7:31 pm
Remember the Debbie Downers who were all wailing and gnashing their teeth after the first two games? Watch them now go on and on about how the preseason doesn’t really matter after all.
I expect Al_is_theraiders and Blacksilverside to adopt this meme with a vengeance.
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RaiderDuck,
The Raiders looked great while the offense needs tweaking, the Defense played superlatively.
Pryor is getting better minute by minute and I predict will take over as #1 QB, if CP3 is injured.
The only downside is that #55 wasn’t close to making a play in the first half, and just stood there mostly. Me thinks he should go.
I said this past week – if the Raiders whupped the Lions, they would pass a monumental milestone.
And they did!
August 25th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
My kingdom for a couple of decent tightends.
August 25th, 2012 at 8:05 pm
Russell wasn’t a financial decision. He was a financial disaster. He already received the majority of his contract. Davis saw the writing on the wall & just decided to cut his losses & move on.
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If Jamarcus would have restructured as Al asked, he would have stayed.
He was due 8 million and was cut. If he was due 2 million, he wouldn’t have been cut, at least not then.
August 25th, 2012 at 8:06 pm
RaidO Says:
August 25th, 2012 at 8:02 pm
Some of you fools sound like the same dudes talking that mess about Vick when he got out of jail= “wildcat”-”Good running back”- “Can’t throw” LOL
TP will eventually be the Raiders starting QB most likely this year since CP has a track record of not being able to run a WCO. Get used to it. TP is improving every game.
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If I were you I would hope this scenario doesn’t play out, because Pryor becomes the starter ONLY if the team is out of contention.
August 25th, 2012 at 8:06 pm
JB Says: August 25th, 2012 at 7:41 pm
we still have one big concern – The short yardage runner. Taking 4 downs at the 1 makes me think we got Bush back.
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False, DMAC one of the best in the league last year on short down situations. Papa said he converted 7of 9. This is not a runner concern, it is an o-line concern. Give the man his respect…
August 25th, 2012 at 8:06 pm
thre preseason games and four picks for palmer, he’s looked like schyt all three games. underthrown (badly) ball to Bey. I for one am starting to lose confidence in him.
August 25th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
I wish we could keep both our dline and lb depth.
August 25th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
JB Says:
August 25th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
Russell wasn’t a financial decision. He was a financial disaster. He already received the majority of his contract. Davis saw the writing on the wall & just decided to cut his losses & move on.
Wimbley was drastically overpaid & quite rankly, he wasn’t all that good. Last year his sacks mainly came against the same 3rd string San Diego OLT. He was a liability against both the run & pass. Good riddance. Wheeler is a BIG upgrade.
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I agree that JR was not a financial decision. Al succumbed to pressure by the media and the short-sighted fans. He didn’t have the patience to let the guy redeem himself, which he was on his way to doing. Knowing now that he was very ill, I can understand this. Wimbley is a very underrated player on this board. He was far and a way the best pass rusher on the team. Opposing teams new this and gameplanned us accordingly. Screw that “backup tackle” sht. If we analyze every guy’s sack totals, we’ll find stuff like that all day. The guy pressured the QB on just about every rush. Just because we’re paying him $6 million to wreak havoc for the Titans doesn’t mean it was the right thing to do.
August 25th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
Rezinator Says:
August 25th, 2012 at 8:06 pm
JB Says: August 25th, 2012 at 7:41 pm
we still have one big concern – The short yardage runner. Taking 4 downs at the 1 makes me think we got Bush back.
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False, DMAC one of the best in the league last year on short down situations. Papa said he converted 7of 9. This is not a runner concern, it is an o-line concern. Give the man his respect…
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I stand corrected and will give you that, Bottomline, the ZBS isn’t worth a damn in short yardage goal line stands.
August 25th, 2012 at 8:10 pm
One note: when Knapp tried to score on the goalline stand I cannot understand why he tried to have DMAC try to punch it in. No chance against the Lion D. What I mean is that a voice was telling me to spread the D out by inserting two wide receivers. When Knapp did that and stretched the D, DMAC went it.
Why does an ignorant knucklehead like have to think of that one? If you had a 250 lb FB, it would be different. Knapp will get DMAC hurt this season
August 25th, 2012 at 8:10 pm
Had a boss named Klas once,broke his jaw on the way out.
August 25th, 2012 at 8:10 pm
Nice job tonight Raiders.
The offense (starters) has gotten a little better every week, we have dominated yardage and time of pos. each game without a lot of points to show for but it’s looking like we’ll move the ball well enough and that’s how you start.
Red zone efficiency probably won’t be what we would like, but there’s still time to work on some options there.
Conservative play-calling will remain an issue, that’s just Knapp’s style but as long as we win…I’ll take it.
Defense looked solid again, not many blitzes this time around and we didn’t really needed them but I do feel like the Lions didn’t really tested our coverage that much, still a nice showing.
Special Teams continue to look bad, DA needs to get on that.
Bottom line is we dominated the Lions last year for most of that game and we did it again tonight, it’s a nice measuring stick for this team, even if it’s just a pre-season game.
Most impressive thing tonight to me?.
Our OL handling Detroit’s vaunted front four and our front 7, specially the DL, stiffling a premier Offense.
In a game without a ton of game-planning, it’s nice to see we can win the battle at the Line of Scrimage, offensively and defensively.
August 25th, 2012 at 8:11 pm
Ohioraider Says:
August 25th, 2012 at 8:06 pm
RaidO Says:
August 25th, 2012 at 8:02 pm
Some of you fools sound like the same dudes talking that mess about Vick when he got out of jail= “wildcat”-”Good running back”- “Can’t throw” LOL
TP will eventually be the Raiders starting QB most likely this year since CP has a track record of not being able to run a WCO. Get used to it. TP is improving every game.
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If I were you I would hope this scenario doesn’t play out, because Pryor becomes the starter ONLY if the team is out of contention.
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How are you so HIGH on Palmer? He has not shown anything. Add to that he has a track record of not being able to run a WCO. That is not a preseason thing.
If JC was still here he would probably be the #1 QB.
Pryor has a legitimate shot at being the starter.
That ‘explosive offense” comment by by Allen will not come to life with Palmer at QB. I see it happening with TP.
August 25th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
August 25th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
JB Says:
August 25th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
Russell wasn’t a financial decision. He was a financial disaster. He already received the majority of his contract. Davis saw the writing on the wall & just decided to cut his losses & move on.
Wimbley was drastically overpaid & quite rankly, he wasn’t all that good. Last year his sacks mainly came against the same 3rd string San Diego OLT. He was a liability against both the run & pass. Good riddance. Wheeler is a BIG upgrade.
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I agree that JR was not a financial decision. Al succumbed to pressure by the media and the short-sighted fans. He didn’t have the patience to let the guy redeem himself, which he was on his way to doing. Knowing now that he was very ill, I can understand this. Wimbley is a very underrated player on this board. He was far and a way the best pass rusher on the team. Opposing teams new this and gameplanned us accordingly. Screw that “backup tackle” sht. If we analyze every guy’s sack totals, we’ll find stuff like that all day. The guy pressured the QB on just about every rush. Just because we’re paying him $6 million to wreak havoc for the Titans doesn’t mean it was the right thing to do.
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Wimbley was/is a one trick pony and a threat to no one. JaLoser was just that. Your BroMance with Russell is old & most of us are tired of hearing about him. If he was so great, he would be playing today with some other team. That’s NOT happening anywhere. The guy was/is a LOSER.
August 25th, 2012 at 8:14 pm
pitch it to dmac
August 25th, 2012 at 8:15 pm
RaidO – You are delusional regarding TP.
August 25th, 2012 at 8:15 pm
RaidO Says:
August 25th, 2012 at 8:02 pm
Some of you fools sound like the same dudes talking that mess about Vick when he got out of jail= “wildcat”-”Good running back”- “Can’t throw” LOL
TP will eventually be the Raiders starting QB most likely this year since CP has a track record of not being able to run a WCO. Get used to it. TP is improving every game.
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What makes you think that we are going to run a WCO?
I’m beginning to wonder if this is just smoke.Maybe
a hybrid?Can’t believe that the regime would install a
noodle arm O with a vertical passer.OK I get the ZBS
….we have agile linemen and a one cut and go back.
Nobody is going to confuse CP with JoMo.Can’t believe we are going WCO.
August 25th, 2012 at 8:16 pm
I can’t wait for the opener. The Chargers left half oft the Oline is in ruins and it doesn’t look to be fixed amytime soon. The Raiders should blow that side up.
August 25th, 2012 at 8:16 pm
T.Jones.= FAST MFR!!!
August 25th, 2012 at 8:17 pm
Darren McFadden… pitch the football to him at or near the goalline.
August 25th, 2012 at 8:19 pm
Easy on the Terrell Pryor stuff.Not even close yet,but terrific athlete.Needs to make quicker decisons and cut loose the throws.
August 25th, 2012 at 8:20 pm
What you saw with Palmer last season and this preseason is all you get. He’ll always throw a boneheaded INT. He’s good with the long pass, but can’t avoid the rush or run in any manner.
He is over the hill. A perfect 2nd string guy to Pryor, eventually.
August 25th, 2012 at 8:20 pm
JB Says:
August 25th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
August 25th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
JB Says:
August 25th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
Russell wasn’t a financial decision. He was a financial disaster. He already received the majority of his contract. Davis saw the writing on the wall & just decided to cut his losses & move on.
Wimbley was drastically overpaid & quite rankly, he wasn’t all that good. Last year his sacks mainly came against the same 3rd string San Diego OLT. He was a liability against both the run & pass. Good riddance. Wheeler is a BIG upgrade.
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I agree that JR was not a financial decision. Al succumbed to pressure by the media and the short-sighted fans. He didn’t have the patience to let the guy redeem himself, which he was on his way to doing. Knowing now that he was very ill, I can understand this. Wimbley is a very underrated player on this board. He was far and a way the best pass rusher on the team. Opposing teams new this and gameplanned us accordingly. Screw that “backup tackle” sht. If we analyze every guy’s sack totals, we’ll find stuff like that all day. The guy pressured the QB on just about every rush. Just because we’re paying him $6 million to wreak havoc for the Titans doesn’t mean it was the right thing to do.
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Wimbley was/is a one trick pony and a threat to no one. JaLoser was just that. Your BroMance with Russell is old & most of us are tired of hearing about him. If he was so great, he would be playing today with some other team. That’s NOT happening anywhere. The guy was/is a LOSER.
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I don’t give a sht if Wimbley had one trick or 10, the dude pressured the QB like nobody we’ve got on the team. And from the looks of things, he continues to do so. And I couldn’t care less what most of you are tired of. For the record, I didn’t bring JR up tonight, though I probably will again in the future. And the fact that he’s not on a team now doesn’t mean a damn thing. I believe that if/when he wants it, he will get another chance. Wish the guy the best of luck.
August 25th, 2012 at 8:21 pm
They will pitch to Dmac.
August 25th, 2012 at 8:21 pm
Terrelle Pryor is electric. I haven’t seen anything
like him since the Raiders returned to Oak.
Pre-season game aside this kid has skills.
Criner & Streater, the future looks bright!
DHB way to fight for the ball….jacoby watch
And learn!
August 25th, 2012 at 8:22 pm
Well if Wimbley was/is a one trick pony then someone better tell Phoenix.I would be real happy to have him on the squad….Probably the other 31 teams would also.
August 25th, 2012 at 8:23 pm
Streater = ROY. I predict he will start with DHB & Moore. He’s the real deal and a real talent.
August 25th, 2012 at 8:23 pm
They’d better he’s too fast and too powerfull to not rush those edges on the gl.
August 25th, 2012 at 8:24 pm
The defense is clearly going to be better than what we have seen in years!
Im worried about the kickoff coverage, there are wide gaping holes for return men to kill us.
August 25th, 2012 at 8:26 pm
The ST should get a lot better when actual members of the 53 comprise the lineup. They have all kinds of players on ST right now who won’t make the team.
August 25th, 2012 at 8:27 pm
SeaPerch, feel free to pull your head out of your fat keester before week 1.
Thanks in advance,
Your friend Mista
August 25th, 2012 at 8:28 pm
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/25/terrelle-pryor-runs-wild-in-oakland/
August 25th, 2012 at 8:30 pm
JB there are a half dozen roster spots that get filled from ST’s play so we should be seeing something therr, we clearly are not!
By the way i have never heard 20k that loud at a exhibtion game!
August 25th, 2012 at 8:30 pm
From Peter King via Twitter. Do yourself a favor and read it
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/26/magazine/why-does-anyone-root-for-incompetent-failing-teams.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all
August 25th, 2012 at 8:32 pm
Terrelle Pryor.
I’m just happy for the kid, how can anyone root against him?.
The kid is facing a ton of pressure since he knows almost everybody expects him to fail as a QB, yet he keeps working hard and doing all the little things coaches ask young players to do.
He did not let adversity after a copule of bad outings let him down, he took it like a man and went back to work, no excuses.
I’m definitely a fan, great to see the kid get some reward for his hard work.
August 25th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
I watching the game again on tape delay. Wheeler is really proving to be a great addition to our defense. He’s a great tackler too. Hopefully, some of that skill will rub off on other defensive players. Tackling has not been one of our strong suits for many years now.
August 25th, 2012 at 8:34 pm
MistaBrown you are damn right the special teams are a worry.But I’ve figured out the fact that we have to have to have something to worry about.If it was all good then all we would be left with would be conflicting reports of the actual size of Miz Bee’s contributions to this world and who is the latest suspect of MR’s persona or persona’s.
August 25th, 2012 at 8:41 pm
Chemuza Says:
August 25th, 2012 at 8:30 pm
From Peter King via Twitter. Do yourself a favor and read it
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/26/magazine/why-does-anyone-root-for-incompetent-failing-teams.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all
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This explains all.Thanks for the link dude.Brilliant!!!
August 25th, 2012 at 8:42 pm
You guys see the Texans’ Oline making room for Foster to get into the endzone??
Envious..
August 25th, 2012 at 8:43 pm
Somebody translate what Twinkle toes just said.
August 25th, 2012 at 8:44 pm
I Know Wimbley would be a good fit for the Raider team if not for the money situation.Saying he is not worth the money may be the right move,time will tell. I do like how starting linebackers are playing together and that was a concern of mine. Wheeler is a baller I feel confortable with him on the Raiders starting squad.
Can Ausberry run? He is a converted wide receiver. I was hoping to see him open things up in the middle. I say lets see what he has to ofter as far as the passing attack with all the starting receivers in the game.
August 25th, 2012 at 8:48 pm
Chicken Littles of the blog
Raiders with 513 yards of total offense. Any questions?
August 25th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
Houdini aka TP is a beast, but he is not ready to start.
August 25th, 2012 at 8:55 pm
#100.
Me too.
Here is something he’ll always have.He was AL’s last pick.No one can ever take that away from him.I know he knows this and (to me anyway) he seems hell bent on making that pick one of Al’s best.God knows he is one athletically gifted dude and with his determination the sky is the limit.If it don’t work out it won’t be for the lack of effort on his part.I just hope the kid never find’s out about the existence of this blog.
In answer to your question….people hate other people for achieving what they themselves could not.
Now if you add the fact that the young man is a negro
……..then you can fill in the rest yourself.
Anyway I enjoy your posts….RAIDERS!!
August 25th, 2012 at 8:55 pm
Raider O Says:
August 25th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
Houdini aka TP is a beast, but he is not ready to start.
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Remember that TP had his awesome night vs. a preseason defense. Nobody gameplans for a specific player or team until the regular season starts. If TP were playing against a defense specifically designed to stop him (in other words, a D that dusted off the Michael Vick rules from 2005-2006), it would probably be a different story.
August 25th, 2012 at 8:57 pm
My feelings about Pryor changed tonite from “meh” to “this kid really does have some mad skills”. Both TP and Taiwan looked ridiculously fast.
August 25th, 2012 at 8:58 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
August 25th, 2012 at 8:48 pm
Chicken Littles of the blog
Raiders with 513 yards of total offense. Any questions?
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You do realize you win games by scoring more than your opponent and not by accumulating more yards?
August 25th, 2012 at 8:58 pm
99.
Great read.
August 25th, 2012 at 9:00 pm
I am happy for TP also. In order for TP to continue to develop the oline must continue to maintain their blocks and not treat TP like a scrabbling or running QB.To make him a complete QB he must make some plays stepping up in the pocket.If he wants to stay in the NFL he must continue to throw the ball like he did today. Good job today TP!!!!
August 25th, 2012 at 9:01 pm
Pryor surprised me with what he did tonight.
I’m happy for him. Happy for us. Seeing him run like a gazelle down the field and then escape that sack and get the td? Good stuff.
Not much love for Criner on the blog. He didn’t look slow to me.He finally looked the guy we heard about.
August 25th, 2012 at 9:02 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
August 25th, 2012 at 8:55 pm
Raider O Says:
August 25th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
Houdini aka TP is a beast, but he is not ready to start.
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Remember that TP had his awesome night vs. a preseason defense. Nobody gameplans for a specific player or team until the regular season starts. If TP were playing against a defense specifically designed to stop him (in other words, a D that dusted off the Michael Vick rules from 2005-2006), it would probably be a different story.
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1- he is not a starter. He is our 3rd string QB. lol
2- did you watch the game, and did you notice that he improved he footwork and mechanics?
What more do you want from a 3rd string QB? The guy was perfect tonight, and his 2 incompletions were drops by the backup FB and Criner.
August 25th, 2012 at 9:03 pm
His* footwork……
August 25th, 2012 at 9:03 pm
110.
Even good Ds with a gameplan can get juked and miss tackles. Just sayin….
August 25th, 2012 at 9:04 pm
If ANY game “matters” in the preseason it’s THIS one. Everybody knows that, and the Raiders kicked some major azz tonight.
Detroit is a good team.
We may be better.
August 25th, 2012 at 9:05 pm
TP’s confidence will go thru the roof now. He could be everything JR was supposed to be, and more…
August 25th, 2012 at 9:05 pm
MistaBrown Says:
August 25th, 2012 at 8:43 pm
Somebody translate what Twinkle toes just said.
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If team is all good = nothing to talk about.
Revert to the size of Miss Beechams latest sh!t. Or
Who is the latest person suspected of being Sullies latest puppet? If that’s confusing for you then I’m fluent in Deutsch but other than that I cannot help you.
August 25th, 2012 at 9:07 pm
PlunkforHOF Says:
August 25th, 2012 at 8:57 pm
My feelings about Pryor changed tonite from “meh” to “this kid really does have some mad skills”. Both TP and Taiwan looked ridiculously fast.
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Yes they did. Coaches all over the afc west just puckered a little bit.
August 25th, 2012 at 9:07 pm
JaWalruss was plain awful. Can we just leave it at that?
August 25th, 2012 at 9:08 pm
Is there anybody that will defend palmers putrid turn overs? He is awful & getting worse. I hold my breath & cringe every time he drops back to pass.
He now has the dubious distinction of throwing 20 PICKS IN 12 starts!!!!!!
That is horrendous!!!
Pryor showed major improvement & silenced his critics.
When Palmer flames out look for Pryor to start the last few games of the year.
Now it is clear why I said let Pryor & Palmer take all of the reps!!
Palmer stinks & Pryor has major upside
August 25th, 2012 at 9:13 pm
Look, Pryor has a long way to go, that’s obvious.
But tonight was a glimpse of his potential.
Remember the kid is more of a rookie than players drafted this year, those guys actually played football in 2011, TP over the past 20 months has played what barely amounts to 1 pre-season game.
TP is getting a little better every day, just like DA said he expected from him, as a 23 years old with superior athleticism and drive, he’s well worth waiting for.
August 25th, 2012 at 9:15 pm
Anybody else like this game?
August 25th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
If TP imprioves his pocket game the defense will be forced to defend the entire field and then his legs will become even more of a weapon. We have a Qb of the future who doesnt have to play right now. A very sweet setup we havent had since Plunkett came off the bench. See Rogers/Favre.
August 25th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
Black Qb’s are just better….PERIOD!
There’s only one sport black athletes don’t dominate and thatll change soon enough.
You can talk about Tom Brady and Peyton all u wnat but Jamarcus was the best qb never to to get a chance.
Pryor should be starting NOW…NOT November…NOW!!!
Everytime I see or hear announcers praising white qb’s it makes me wanna throw up.
Look at the numbers.
You all dont know your buts from a whole in the ground.
August 25th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
My man B is going to have to set his pride aside and give TP props!
He was a harsh critic of Pryor when we drafted him.
August 25th, 2012 at 9:20 pm
Nice run D. Tonight. Longest run was 8 yards I believe. Good db play as well. But who was covering the TE’s? Loose….
August 25th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
somebody’s bitter
August 25th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
Debo you are an imbecile with your racial BS.
D-bag
August 25th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
Put down the pipe debo…
August 25th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
Enjoy the rest of your night fellas, I’m out.
August 25th, 2012 at 9:23 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
August 25th, 2012 at 9:08 pm
Is there anybody that will defend palmers putrid turn overs?
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Let me.His turnovers are not putrid…….they are just turnovers.Welcome MR……I’m happy that our third string QB’s growth is a concern of yours.But I digress…
As far as I am aware Palmer is 0-0 this season with 0 yards,0 completions,0 fumbles….I’m sure you get my drift….Your concern is touching and we will get on the phone and let Carson know that important people believe that he could do better and we are letting him know just in case that this had not occurred to him.
Covered it all I believe….now you can go back to SD and let everyone know that you have corrected a gregarious problem within the Oakland Raiders organization and wont be needing to show up on this blog again.Thank you though for your input…not sure how we managed without it.
August 25th, 2012 at 9:25 pm
purvisman Says:
August 25th, 2012 at 9:15 pm
Anybody else like this game?
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Que?
August 25th, 2012 at 9:26 pm
Im sorry, I can’t find the Idiot bastard
childs lame ramblings about who we should be cutting because they can’t throw or catch at an NFL level. Or run for that matter. where are the nay sayers.
August 25th, 2012 at 9:27 pm
“”"”The Lions didn’t baby Leshoure in his return, giving him six carries (one called back by a penalty) and a few looks on passes during his stretch with the starting offense. Leshoure only gained one yard behind an offensive line that had problem clearing holes against Oakland, but he didn’t get hurt.”"”"
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Stout…
August 25th, 2012 at 9:27 pm
Raider O Says:
August 25th, 2012 at 9:02 pm
2- did you watch the game, and did you notice that he improved he footwork and mechanics?
What more do you want from a 3rd string QB? The guy was perfect tonight, and his 2 incompletions were drops by the backup FB and Criner.
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Did not watch the game. Boss does not approve of vipbox or frontrow on company computers. I’ll try to catch the replay tomorrow night.
August 25th, 2012 at 9:28 pm
Bob Marley Says:
August 25th, 2012 at 9:13 pm
Look, Pryor has a long way to go, that’s obvious.
But tonight was a glimpse of his potential.
Remember the kid is more of a rookie than players drafted this year, those guys actually played football in 2011, TP over the past 20 months has played what barely amounts to 1 pre-season game.
TP is getting a little better every day, just like DA said he expected from him, as a 23 years old with superior athleticism and drive, he’s well worth waiting for.
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Well said.
August 25th, 2012 at 9:30 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
August 25th, 2012 at 9:27 pm
Raider O Says:
August 25th, 2012 at 9:02 pm
2- did you watch the game, and did you notice that he improved he footwork and mechanics?
What more do you want from a 3rd string QB? The guy was perfect tonight, and his 2 incompletions were drops by the backup FB and Criner.
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Did not watch the game. Boss does not approve of vipbox or frontrow on company computers. I’ll try to catch the replay tomorrow night.
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I think it’s on NFLN tomorrow at 8pm. Enjoy.
August 25th, 2012 at 9:30 pm
Funny how no one remembers how poorly TP played the first two games. Way too soon to be calling for him to start. Only an immature fan would rush to conclusions that fast. He’s not consistent enough to be relied on every week.
As for Palmer, I’m withholding judgment until the first few regular season games. If he does poorly there, then we’ll have cause for concern.
August 25th, 2012 at 9:30 pm
Why do I here all the time rookies, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, string players need reps in preseason. From what I see coaches are many times running out the clock instead of letting these player showcase their talents from lack of exposure.
August 25th, 2012 at 9:32 pm
Oh I’m sorry.You must be mistaking this for a RAIDER fan blog.
Anyhoo welcome…and Here I was expecting us to be on the losing end…AWESOME game.
August 25th, 2012 at 9:34 pm
No Mas Diamante Says:
August 25th, 2012 at 9:27 pm
“”””The Lions didn’t baby Leshoure in his return, giving him six carries (one called back by a penalty) and a few looks on passes during his stretch with the starting offense. Leshoure only gained one yard behind an offensive line that had problem clearing holes against Oakland, but he didn’t get hurt.””””
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Stout…
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No sarcasm right?funny as hell.
August 25th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
Vic Tafur @VicTafur
One more thing on Pryor. Besides losing both his dad & his mentor in past month, Pryor’s Rottweiler — “my best friend” — also just died
August 25th, 2012 at 9:41 pm
Well said marley, we saw the potential of a lot of young talent tonight (tjones, rstreater, criner, pryor, etc.).
Excited about season opener, gonna be in the stands!
August 25th, 2012 at 9:45 pm
Has anyone else been watching the Oline and what it will take for the backups to make this team?They will have to be conversant at both sides of line.You have to be able to play left and right tackle/guard to make this team.
Not asking for much are we?
How did Alex Parsons do?He was invisible to Greg and Tom
so I guess he did fine.
August 25th, 2012 at 9:47 pm
Crimedog Says:
August 25th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
Vic Tafur @VicTafur
One more thing on Pryor. Besides losing both his dad & his mentor in past month, Pryor’s Rottweiler — “my best friend” — also just died
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you have got to kidding…..man what did this kid do?
August 25th, 2012 at 9:48 pm
*be
August 25th, 2012 at 9:49 pm
Crimedog Says:
August 25th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
Vic Tafur @VicTafur
One more thing on Pryor. Besides losing both his dad & his mentor in past month, Pryor’s Rottweiler — “my best friend” — also just died
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Prayers to TP.
August 25th, 2012 at 9:50 pm
I’m getting a Bo Jackson vibe from Pryor.
August 25th, 2012 at 9:52 pm
Tonight Pryor showed why Davis drafted him, he showed why d.a & big mck beleive he has huge potential. He also showed why 99 % of the so called fans here that said Pryor should play tight end don’t know what the fugg they are talking about.
Palmer continues to prove that he is beyond washed up. Terrible decisions & awful picks coming at a furious clip from the guy that was supposed to be a major upgrade in Oakland.
This is a full rebuild, if palmer leads us to a losing record & out of contention sit him down & play Pryor. Pryor looked like a real weapon & a vastly improved qb. This kid could be the future & the type of playmaking qb that is all the rage in today’s football.
I want them to let Pryor play more from the shotgun & 3/4 we sets. Making Pryor play the offense as it is set up for Palmer hand cuffs him a bit. However this could just be a part of the vanilla offense for pre season.
As of now Palmer is barely ahead of Pryor in my eyes. Both qbs will turn the ball over, the difference is Pryor is improving, Palmer is regressing
August 25th, 2012 at 10:21 pm
Trip and fall mcGee, check your cleats kid
August 25th, 2012 at 10:30 pm
Sully…tonight proved that Pryor is an amazing athlete
and well capable of learning the QB position from Palmer
and others.Your team on the other hand has Alex Smith and
whomever.Carson is our QB……Al drafted him because he can fly just like he drafted everyone else.
You can teach mechanics but you can not teach speed.
So we here in the East Bay should replace an NFL starting QB with a raw work in progress so …..your precious whiners might have a chance should you make it to a postseason game against the Raiders.