Pryor, Criner enjoy coming-out party
By Steve Corkran
Saturday, August 25th, 2012 at 9:44 pm in Oakland Raiders.
So, that’s what all the fuss was about, eh? Terrelle Pryor was going to revolutionize the quarterback position and rookie wide receiver Juron Criner was going to build upon an off-the-charts showing during offseason workouts.
On Saturday, for one game, at least, Pryor did things few quarterbacks are capable of doing with his feet, made throws befitting a bonafide NFL quarterback and caused people to stand up and take notice. And Criner made not one but two outstanding plays after being silent the first two games and most of training camp.
It was enough to make people wonder what the future holds for the Raiders, with Pryor at quarterback and Criner one of his go-to receivers.
Yet, we’re wise enough to know that what Pryor and Criner did against the Detroit Lions in a 31-20 victory at the Coliseum will be forgotten before long, certainly once the regular season starts in two weeks or so.
Still, it was a show worth watching … over and over again.
The highlights began when Pryor bolted out of the pocket, found a seam, raced through it untouched and rambled 59 yards to the Lions 14-yard line. Two plays later, Pryor capped the scoring drive with an impressive 17-yard run for a touchdown.
On the next series, Pryor benefitted from an interception being negated by a Lions penalty. He made the most of his second chance by delivering a pass down the right sideline that Criner snared above cornerback Alphonso Smith before falling into the end zone for a 39-yard touchdown (It’s worth noting that Criner caught the ball despite being interfered with by Smith on the play).
Two series later, Pryor rolled right, led Criner as he streaked across the middle of field and celebrated as Criner finished off a 76-yard catch-and-run play.
Overall, Pryor completed 3-of-5 passes for 137 yards and 137 yards, good for an impressive 143.8 passer rating. By comparison, starter Carson Palmer completed 17-of-26 for 181 yards, with two interceptions, and a 53.5 passer rating.
“I’m just so happy for him; he works so hard and puts so much time in,” Palmer said. “To have the big plays that he made with his feet and the big throws that he made and the guys step up for him like Juron did; guys have so much confidence in him and I’m just happy for him. Proud of him.”
This was the Pryor that late owner Al Davis envisioned when he surrendered a third round draft pick so that he could select Pryor in the NFL’s supplemental draft a year ago. This was the Criner that coach Dennis Allen witnessed on a regular basis during offseason workouts, when Criner made the difficult look routine.
It remains to be seen whether Pryor and Criner will play much once the regular season starts. However, they went a long way toward showing that they can play well in a game, which goes a long way in coaches’ minds.
If nothing else, it’s a far cry from the inconsistent play by Pryor the first two games. Pryor called his improvement with his comfort managing the game the primary reason for his improved play.
“The first thing that my coach Flip (John DeFilippo, quarterbacks coach) said when I got upstairs was, ‘Man, your huddle presence was 200,000 times better.’ That was the biggest thing that helped me was that I could get out earlier. I could get out and see the defense and break down the possibilities of what the defense could possibly be rather than running up to the huddle and having seven seconds left and I’ve got to snap the ball.”
Pryor was hypercritical of his play against the Dallas Cowboys in a 3-0 loss on Aug. 13. He vowed to play better and be the difference the next time he was in a similar situation.
“I hate losing; that’s just something that carries with me,” Pryor said. “When I play video games, people don’t like playing me in video games because I get mad. I’ll throw and break the controller and go buy another one. That’s just how I am. I’m fiery about that. I hate losing.
“When coaches pick on me and they’re trying to help me out a little bit and they (point out) what I do bad, I hate hearing it. It just drives me crazy and I just go out and work on it by myself until I get it right. I just hate failing.”
No failing grade tonight, only an A+ for Pryor.
As always, Allen was measured in his assessment of Pryor’s performance.
“Terrelle did a nice job,” Allen said. “He came in and threw a couple of nice balls, two for touchdowns, both of them to Criner, so that was good to see. He managed the huddle a lot better in this game, which was really an area of improvement we were looking for out of him. He’s still a work in progress, but I thought he made some strides today.”
– Allen talks about wanting to keep four defensive tackles. At this rate, he might be forced to keep five.
Such is the power of youngsters like Jamie Cumbie and Christo Bilukidi making their presence felt time and again.
“It was good to see Jamie coming back off the injury and play,” Allen said, “so that may be one of those battles that goes right down to the end. Listen, that’s the way we want it. We want competition. We want guys battling, and some of those guys stepped up today.”
On Saturday, Cumbie got his hands in the way of three passes, with the final one setting up a Bilukidi interception.
Cumbie notched two tackles, one sack and the three batted passes, as well as several plays in which he pressured the quarterback. Bilukidi was in on several plays, even if he didn’t get credit for the tackle.
“It’s the kind of game I needed after missing last week and being out some practices,” Cumbie said. “I needed to come out and do something.”
Cumbie just returned from a right foot injury. He and Bilukidi realize that the first roster cuts are Monday and the final one Friday. Time is short to make one final, lasting impression.
“The way to make the team is, stacking practices, showing up on game days, making plays, don’t bust on any assignments,” Bilukidi said. “As a rookie, you don’t want to bust any kind of assignment. You want to show these coaches that you know what to do on the field, show that you’re physical, especially as a defensive lineman.”
– Second-year running back Taiwan Jones played in a game for the first time this season. It’s safe to say that he played well enough to present a strong case for why he should be the primary backup to Darren McFadden.
Jones rushed for 50 yards on 10 carries and caught two passes for 8 yards.
“I was just out there having fun,” Jones said. “When you’re in game mode, you got to be patient with your steps but you just got to cut it loose. That’s what I tried to do.”
It caught Allen’s attention.
“He did some nice things,” Allen said. “He was explosive; he’s obviously really fast. He has a real nice run where he got a little penetration and cut back and was able to get around the defense. That’s one of the things that he gives you is, he does have some real speed, so his ability to get on the edges is good for us.”
– Rookie wide receiver Rod Streater shined for a third straight game. This time, he caught five passes for 56 yards. That gives him 18 catches in three games.
Streater caught only 19 passes for Temple last season, which played a large part of his going undrafted.
“That’s funny, right?” Streater said. “Nineteen catches. It’s a blessing that I’m here and I’ve got an offense that throws me the ball. I just want to continue to make plays and continue to work hard.”
– Shane Lechler punted four times Saturday for a 44.5-yard gross and net average. That marked his first game action this season. He missed considerable practice time, as well as the first two exhibition games, while he recovered from arhtroscopic surgery on his left knee.
– Kicker Sebastian Janikowski suffered a groin injury while attempting to tackle Justin Miller on an 80-yard kick return. Janikowski missed the remainder of the game.
Allen said the Raiders will evaluate Janikowski’s injury and determine the extent. Eddy Carmona replaced Janikowski and kicked well, including a 56-yard field goal at the end of the first half.
– McFadden played quite a bit less than the rest of the first-team offense, though he managed nine carries and two receptions. He also scored Oakland’s first touchdown on a 1-yard burst.
McFadden re-entered the game in that situation, Allen said, because that’s the role he is going to handle during the season.
“When we get down on the goal line, we want to give the ball to our best back and let him punch it in,” Allen said.
– Tight end Brandon Myers returned to action after a shoulder injury and caught five passes for 41 yards. David Ausberry added a 10-yard catch on a play on which he lowered his shoulder and bowled over the tackler.
“Was it perfect? No, it wasn’t perfect, but we did some nice things from the tight end position,” Allen said. “Just looking at it with a naked eye, I was pleased with the tight end position.”
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August 25th, 2012 at 9:53 pm
A pretty fair assessment overall.
August 25th, 2012 at 9:55 pm
2nd!
August 25th, 2012 at 9:56 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
August 25th, 2012 at 9:52 pm
Tonight Pryor showed why Davis drafted him, he showed why d.a & big mck beleive he has huge potential. He also showed why 99 % of the so called fans here that said Pryor should play tight end don’t know what the fugg they are talking about.
Palmer continues to prove that he is beyond washed up. Terrible decisions & awful picks coming at a furious clip from the guy that was supposed to be a major upgrade in Oakland.
This is a full rebuild, if palmer leads us to a losing record & out of contention sit him down & play Pryor. Pryor looked like a real weapon & a vastly improved qb. This kid could be the future & the type of playmaking qb that is all the rage in today’s football.
I want them to let Pryor play more from the shotgun & 3/4 we sets. Making Pryor play the offense as it is set up for Palmer hand cuffs him a bit. However this could just be a part of the vanilla offense for pre season.
As of now Palmer is barely ahead of Pryor in my eyes. Both qbs will turn the ball over, the difference is Pryor isan improving rookie Palmer is a regressing 10 year vet
August 25th, 2012 at 9:56 pm
TP will have it someday … hopefully he doesn’t have to get thrown into the fire too early in his career
August 25th, 2012 at 9:58 pm
Raiders
August 25th, 2012 at 9:59 pm
Has anybody noticed pryors delivery and much he has improved his mechanics over the last few weeks? This kid needs more reps, he is proving that he will get better the more he plays, & he takes to coaching well as a student.
I really like this kid
August 25th, 2012 at 10:00 pm
“Yet,we’re wise enough to know ………..”
Steve you this place way too much credit.
August 25th, 2012 at 10:00 pm
*give
August 25th, 2012 at 10:01 pm
Mistic,
i was just defending Palmer … although he is a good passer, needs to pull his head out of his azz sometimes. it’s just preseason, i’ll wait…
i always believed TP had potential. he had to shake of 20 months of rust in these last two preseason games to show us what he did tonight. is he like Tebow? at the moment… maybe.. but with faster wheels…
put unlike Capt. Jesus, Pryor has the potential to be a successful passer as well. hey, it eventually worked for mr. dog killer! It was Greg Knapp that called plays for him too… maybe there will be a continuing trend coming up? Knapp knows how to use TP, that much we know…
at this point, Knapp and DA should be incorporating him into ball games. Palmer said himself that they want to “keep defenses on their toes”, this is the way to do it.
August 25th, 2012 at 10:03 pm
Terrelle Fire really lit it up out there and the future looks bright in his light
August 25th, 2012 at 10:06 pm
Pryor if the raiders commit to him can be better than Palmer in the long run
August 25th, 2012 at 10:06 pm
BTW,
At this point, comparing the arms of CP3 and TP, i’d say Pryor has the advantage in arm strength at the moment. he showed that tonight.
I bet he could keep up better with the speed of our receivers, most importantly D. Moore!
its just accuracy at this point. Pryor gets sent on a bootleg, that man is NOT getting caught, much like Big Baby Ben.
August 25th, 2012 at 10:08 pm
i’m sure they’ll commit to him sometime after the 2013 season.
still believe Palmer will get his sh!t together. you have to admit that even without many weapons on the field including your #1 receiver in Moore, you’re speed demon Ford, and not much of a TE in Myers, he put together a couple of nice drives.
stop the mistakes, and he’ll be okay. if they continue through the first month of the season, look to see more Pryor packages.
August 25th, 2012 at 10:15 pm
I really liked what I saw from Ron Bartell tonight. He’s always been a really solid player. Happy to have him.
August 25th, 2012 at 10:39 pm
Palmers picks are just a smokescreen. Wait til the season begins. He’ll be watchin everybody hangin on to his gonads.
I also think Knapp is smokescreenin the dumb schiit role. When we get 1st and goal in the regular season, DMAC will be bust for the pylons. Knapp cant be that big of a dumb schiit, or he wouldn’t be in the NFL (but then again, dont ask)
August 25th, 2012 at 10:41 pm
Let’s not getcarried away on the Palmer washed up talk and Pryor being anywhere close to being ready. Pryor was 3 for 5 not 20 for 30. He made a few good throws and showed he could run which we already knew. He is basicly our version of Tebow. He is not yet a polished or accurate passer and still has to learn the offense and how to read defenses. Palmer I thought actually had a good game besides the one bad decision on the screen pass that got intercepted. The 2nd interception was a well thrown ball, that pick was on the receiver. Palmer had a couple of other passes that were dropped, plus beyond DHB he is still working with backup receivers who hopefully aren’t going to be his primary targets once the season starts.
August 25th, 2012 at 10:41 pm
It’ll be a lot happier around here for the next couple weeks.
We actually have a win to talk about…I know it doesn’t matter (final score-preseason) but if there was one game u wanna win it’s the 3rd one…the “dress rehearsal”. I LOVE Pryor saying he hates to lose.
People were on him for getting down on himself after AZ game, but that’s what motivates him.
Criner? He reminds me alot of Javon Walker (when he was with GB) when Favre had the luxury of just tossin’ it up there and his receivers would come down with it.
August 25th, 2012 at 10:43 pm
The showing that was much more important was Taiwan Jones. If he can stay healthy he gives the Raiders an explosive backup to McFadden and another big play threat. I was impressed with not only his speed but how physical he was finishing runs.
August 25th, 2012 at 10:47 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
August 25th, 2012 at 9:52 pm
Tonight Pryor showed why Davis drafted him, he showed why d.a & big mck beleive he has huge potential. He also showed why 99 % of the so called fans here that said Pryor should play tight end don’t know what the fugg they are talking about.
Palmer continues to prove that he is beyond washed up. Terrible decisions & awful picks coming at a furious clip from the guy that was supposed to be a major upgrade in Oakland.
This is a full rebuild, if palmer leads us to a losing record & out of contention sit him down & play Pryor. Pryor looked like a real weapon & a vastly improved qb. This kid could be the future & the type of playmaking qb that is all the rage in today’s football.
I want them to let Pryor play more from the shotgun & 3/4 we sets. Making Pryor play the offense as it is set up for Palmer hand cuffs him a bit. However this could just be a part of the vanilla offense for pre season.
As of now Palmer is barely ahead of Pryor in my eyes. Both qbs will turn the ball over, the difference is Pryor is improving, Palmer is regressing
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Funny, watching NFL right now and Elizabeth Hasselbeck’s husband said about the same thing. He and Herm Edwards said there’s no excuses for a veteran QB coming off a full offseason to be turning the ball over the way he is. Hasselbeck said what’s most disturbing about Palmer is the decision making. Said it’s OK for rookies to do stuff like that, but Palmer shouldn’t be. Said that if it continues into the regular season, the fans will remember TP’s performance tonight and it could be a big problem for Palmer. He better cut it out.
August 25th, 2012 at 10:53 pm
Debo, that is exactly what you & I have been saying all along. Only these cats on this board will not accept that I formation from us.
Lol
August 25th, 2012 at 10:55 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
August 25th, 2012 at 10:53 pm
Debo, that is exactly what you & I have been saying all along. Only these cats on this board will not accept that I formation from us.
Lol
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Lol! For sure. Don’t kill the messenger.
August 25th, 2012 at 11:01 pm
I love the headline on Pride if Detroit website tonight:
Lions Beaten Up In 31-20 Loss To Raiders
by Sean Yuille on Aug 25, 2012 11:33 PM EDT in Detroit Lions Game Recaps
August 25th, 2012 at 11:01 pm
FOR ALL THE T.P, HATERS ALL OF A SUDDEN AND FANS THAT SAID HE WILL NEVR BE A NFL QB! BIG SLAP UPSIDE YOUR HEAD! ALL RAIDER FANS MUST STAY SOLID, ITS ONLYRESEASON! GLORY DAYS WILL RETURN AS THE HELLS BELLS PLAY.IN THE BACK ROUND! RAIDER NATION RAIDER_GIL_1650.
August 25th, 2012 at 11:05 pm
only preason sorry. jus got back from RICKYS! LIVING UP the victory in OAKLAND, CA! YEEEEEEEEEE
August 25th, 2012 at 11:07 pm
We better see very much improved Palmer come regular season or even hard core Palmer supporters like me will be calling for TP.
August 25th, 2012 at 11:09 pm
After watching the replay of that Palmer pick on screen, it was obvious that Taiwan Got straight up mugged on that play, not sure how these replacement refs missed that. Im not as down on Palmer for that pick as I was before. The 2nd int is all on McGee obviously. So overall Palmer had a decent game, looks like he is ready for the season and primed for a big year, which is what all Raider fans should want.
Pryor looked good, reminds me of Tebow. At this point he is not ready to be the 2nd QB, I have ben a fan of his and I hope he can takeover the backup role next year and in 2-3 years hopefully the starter.
August 25th, 2012 at 11:10 pm
Palmer has only thrown 3 int’s that were his “fault”. You are nuts if u blame that one to McGee that was batted around as Palmers fault. Nobody in their right mind would.
Did Peyton Manning have a full offseason? He has 3 int’s as well.
I guess there’s “no excuse” for him either.??? And we’ll see how Manning does tomorrow night cuz Palmer has one full game on him.
August 25th, 2012 at 11:11 pm
This Not a call for TP because I’m not ready for the TP era. I said it yesterday and some of you thought I was crazy I’ll say it again Palmer Suckz Ballz and we need to cut our losses……
August 25th, 2012 at 11:13 pm
No touchdowns in the Pre-season Palmer is A Sheep in Wolfs clothing he dont have it anymore dude Blows!!
August 25th, 2012 at 11:14 pm
Not killing the messenger simply stating the obvious which is Pryor is no where near ready to be a starting QB. Of course the fans will remember this one performance but they should also be smart enough to know that just last week the same fans were calling Pryor a bust who should be playing tight end. Not excusing Palmer’s bad decision on the screen pass that was a terrible choice but I also saw he make a lot of smart reads and throws tonight. The reality is out the 3 QBs we have there really is no competition for who is the best. Am I worrried about the interceptions, of course but remember last year even with all the interceptions Palmer and the offense were not the problem. We scored plenty and I expect the offense to be even more efficient this year if D Mac can for once stay healthy. And somehow taking the talking heads at NFL Network as authorities just weakens your point because none of them thinks Pryor is an NFL QQ and how many of them really pay any attention to the Raiders??? They just turn to Mike Mayock and Sapp for uninformed comment. Let’s judge once Moore and Ford are healthy and a starting TE is decided.
August 25th, 2012 at 11:15 pm
I’d rather go with Matt Lienart than Carson Palmer. Why is he the Starter anyway? I beleive it’s all politics and the Raiders dont want drama yet with the New Management
August 25th, 2012 at 11:16 pm
Rivers also has 3 int and he didn’t play yesterday so more than likely he would of atleast threw 1 pick
August 25th, 2012 at 11:18 pm
Palmer looked great in the first SD game last year running Hue offense in the no huddle he was harp.
Palmer look confused in this new offense and I hope its like DA and Knapp claim they are just working through things.
I understand this is pre season but this happened last year when our D was getting ran over and they said it would get fixed.
I just want our O to look sharp we were 9th in the league last year with no McFadden for 8 games and 2 different QB’s. We should have a top 10 offense this year or something is not right.
August 25th, 2012 at 11:19 pm
Jaysohn Says:
August 25th, 2012 at 11:14 pm
Not killing the messenger simply stating the obvious which is Pryor is no where near ready to be a starting QB. Of course the fans will remember this one performance but they should also be smart enough to know that just last week the same fans were calling Pryor a bust who should be playing tight end. Not excusing Palmer’s bad decision on the screen pass that was a terrible choice but I also saw he make a lot of smart reads and throws tonight. The reality is out the 3 QBs we have there really is no competition for who is the best. Am I worrried about the interceptions, of course but remember last year even with all the interceptions Palmer and the offense were not the problem. We scored plenty and I expect the offense to be even more efficient this year if D Mac can for once stay healthy. And somehow taking the talking heads at NFL Network as authorities just weakens your point because none of them thinks Pryor is an NFL QQ and how many of them really pay any attention to the Raiders??? They just turn to Mike Mayock and Sapp for uninformed comment. Let’s judge once Moore and Ford are healthy and a starting TE is decided.
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Man Look This guy is washed up(Palmer) We need to cut him and go with Lienart and Pryor Sign a free agent
August 25th, 2012 at 11:19 pm
he was sharp not harp
August 25th, 2012 at 11:19 pm
Palmer is the Starter because he is by far the best QB on the roster, its that simple.
August 25th, 2012 at 11:19 pm
Matt Leinart?? Politics?? This is why fans don’t run teams. So the guy who failed as a starter and is a career backup should now be your starter because he looked decent against 2nd and 3rd string defenses in preseason??
August 25th, 2012 at 11:21 pm
What free agent would you like the Raiders to sign by the way?? So the team goes 8-8 last year with a defense that was horrible and your bright idea this season is to dump the starting QB.
August 25th, 2012 at 11:22 pm
Jaysohn Says:
August 25th, 2012 at 11:19 pm
Matt Leinart?? Politics?? This is why fans don’t run teams. So the guy who failed as a starter and is a career backup should now be your starter because he looked decent against 2nd and 3rd string defenses in preseason??
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But you prefer the guy who Quit on his team? witch is worse?
August 25th, 2012 at 11:24 pm
They could sign any bum off the streets for the cheap I would take them over Palmer’s over priced butt
August 25th, 2012 at 11:26 pm
So if Palmer’s play does stink up the joint (and I DON’T believe it will, but just for the sake of argument), we’ve got a mobile, dynamic young QB ready to come in. Nice dilemma, no?
August 25th, 2012 at 11:27 pm
Or the guy who got his school placed on probation? Yes because the reality is right Palmer gives the team the best chance to win. Even if you want to blow it up and see Pryor as the future he is nowhere ready to start and Leinart is not better than Palmer period. So even if you are right and he is washed up you might as well play out this year anyway with Palmer and spend the season having the coaches tutor Pryor.
August 25th, 2012 at 11:27 pm
1st team offense put up 247 yards in one half, Palmer had over 180 yards. Still have issues scoring, but I think this has alot more to do with Knapp. we were lucky to get that TD from the one with 4 cracks at it, he is going to have to check his ego and put in some power scheme plays for those situations, put a jumbo package in and put a hat on a hat and punch the fkin ball in the damn endzone. All and all I think we will be more than fine on offense and I hope Knapp is just saving the good stuff for the reg season
August 25th, 2012 at 11:29 pm
Okay with the “any bum of the street” you just completely confirmed by belief that you are just commenting to be commenting. So you can be ignored now or maybe come back after you have sobered up.
August 25th, 2012 at 11:30 pm
BTW the Politics I speak is this the Obvious:#1 The Raiders Spent two Draft picks on Palmer.#2 He is one of the Highest Paid players on the team and not living up to exspectations.#3 Just to jab at your last point you made, Lienart did play well as a starter last year before he got hurt? And I believe that team was in the playoffs.
August 25th, 2012 at 11:31 pm
I agree that maybe some power plays need to be added or hoping that Wiz at center makes a big difference because Foster has had no problems scoring on those plays the last two years in Houston. I think the line still in there yet with the system.
August 25th, 2012 at 11:33 pm
“So if Palmer’s play does stink up the joint (and I DON’T believe it will, but just for the sake of argument), we’ve got a mobile, dynamic young QB ready to come in. Nice dilemma, no?”
Well put
August 25th, 2012 at 11:33 pm
Oh yeah that probation was Reggie Bush Not Matt. Matt still Has his Hiesman
August 25th, 2012 at 11:34 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
August 25th, 2012 at 11:33 pm
“So if Palmer’s play does stink up the joint (and I DON’T believe it will, but just for the sake of argument), we’ve got a mobile, dynamic young QB ready to come in. Nice dilemma, no?”
Well put
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Yeah Let the kid play
August 25th, 2012 at 11:38 pm
Leinart yes played well for one half before he got hurt but so did the 3rd string QB for Houston so that’s not really a jab at my point. The reality is no one was knocking down his door this off season offering him a starting job so that tells you something. As far as the politics, this GM and coaching staff didn’t trade for Palmer so they are not tied to him. I’m pretty sure Dennis Allen’s primary concern right now is putting in the QB who gives him the best chance to win. I don’t think he cares one way or the other otherwise. And are you talking about preseason expectations? and who’s expectations?
August 25th, 2012 at 11:39 pm
I’m talking about Ohio State probations, DUH
August 25th, 2012 at 11:39 pm
You know the reason why Pryor was in the supplemental draft in the first place and had to serve game suspensions.
August 25th, 2012 at 11:40 pm
Palmer is clearly the number 1 QB on the team. Let TP continue to work hard, learn, and grow as a player. In a year or 2 we can see if he can push Palmer for the starting job. He still has a long way to go. We saw some good things today, but keep in mind this is still the preseason. We still haven’t seen the offense going all out. It will also be more dynamic with Moore and Ford available again. It’s going to be fun watching them open it up on the chargers.
August 25th, 2012 at 11:41 pm
expectations of A touchdown pass you had three games to do it Palmer!! he playing like his name is Jessie Palmer
August 25th, 2012 at 11:43 pm
Palmer is a liability that is all he does not give us the best chance to wim period!
August 25th, 2012 at 11:43 pm
That was actually funny. So your saying that any QB who doesn’t throw a touchdown pass in preseason shouldn’t be a starter? But 3 for 5 is enough for you?? I can’t believe your not a head coach in the league.
August 25th, 2012 at 11:44 pm
So you honestly believe that Leinart or Pryor gives the team the best chance to win?
August 25th, 2012 at 11:45 pm
I give up. Your too savvy for me.
August 25th, 2012 at 11:45 pm
A guy has a good HALF against 2nd and 3rd stringers and some idiots demand he be the starter.
I’m happy he did well in this PRESEASON game.
When talking about regressing, you should keep it to how a qb has done in a reg season game. Plamer’s last reg season game he threw for 417 yds. and 2 td’s and was clutch in ot the week prior to that against KC…on the road in a very hostile environment agaunst a team that beat us bad weeks earlier.
Let’s keep the analysis on games that count.
IF Palmer struggles mightily in REGULAR SEASON than consider possible changes.
This is PRESEASON. Thank goodness for Manning and Rivers too cuz they should be run outta town as well for their int’s.
August 25th, 2012 at 11:50 pm
Anyone who can’t see that Palmer is the best QB we’ve had here since Gannon is either blind or has another agenda.
August 25th, 2012 at 11:52 pm
It’s fair to question things in regard to preseason play,,,we do it all the time around here and so does the media but how about switching focus to the fact we just dominated a very good Lions team in the only preseason game that remotely matters.
Defense is looking good in these games. Real good imo. and the offense will only get better.
Make no mistake; Schwartz wanted this game and we took it to him.
That’s good stuff.
August 25th, 2012 at 11:56 pm
I laugh now at the vegas odds maker who said Lions would “score early and often” against the Raiders tonight en route to a big win.
Hahahaha. I know the score doesn’t matter..but bite me.
August 25th, 2012 at 11:59 pm
Thank you DJ
Palmer = starting QB because he is good.
Leinart = backup QB because he is not quite as good.
Pryor = running back learning to be QB and will be good.
Heysoos folks this is pre meaning before season.Sheesh!
August 26th, 2012 at 12:14 am
Dhidee99 Says. $$ Rod boy,thought you’d be curled up fetal like in yor moms basement like you were after the beat down in San Diego.
August 26th, 2012 at 12:15 am
DJ, whats good besides everything
August 26th, 2012 at 12:16 am
What feed you use?
August 26th, 2012 at 12:18 am
Dhidee99… talk
August 26th, 2012 at 12:18 am
Dhidee99…….own up.
August 26th, 2012 at 12:22 am
Dhidee99, why did you want to trade CP3, DHB &TP on silver and black pride again? They are laughing their a$$es off atyou over there. DHB bro-cry a bit loser.
August 26th, 2012 at 12:26 am
Sorry, needed to get that idiot troll outta my system, S&BP people know what I’m talkin about. CODE BLACK–WE ARE ON.
August 26th, 2012 at 12:27 am
DHB was my MUP pick last year. You could check it!
August 26th, 2012 at 12:30 am
I’d stop, but somene might interrupt my string of purvismans.
August 26th, 2012 at 12:31 am
Uh oh, Purvismans grammer starting to suffer. Or his tactile abilities.
August 26th, 2012 at 12:33 am
Even worse, purvisman talking in 3rd person like Klas Whatshisname.
August 26th, 2012 at 12:39 am
it’s nice to see a kid who actually wants to succeed and will put in the work to become great. not someone who is just here for a paycheck and doesn’t give a damn about the game. glad to see we don’t have another jamarcASS russell on our hands…
August 26th, 2012 at 12:55 am
You talkin’ TP, I’m with you. still on the fence but not a bad showing, huh.?
August 26th, 2012 at 1:09 am
yep not bad at all. he has the athleticism and the talent, but also the desire to be a legit qb and not fail (unlike jamarcus)–which i think is really important. give him time to develop and learn under carson and who knows what he’ll be able to do for us in the future.
August 26th, 2012 at 1:13 am
Palmer is a very good QB. He can be frustrating at times, but I’m glad he’s our starter.
Pryor has a LONG WAY TO GO, but he’s improving.
It’s good to have both of them on the team. Anyone who thinks Pryor is ready to start doesn’t know football. I’m glad Allen is the head coach and not some of the armchair quarterbacks who post on here.
August 26th, 2012 at 1:13 am
TP is going to be a good quarterback.
His stats in college were almost identical to Cam Newton’s.
August 26th, 2012 at 1:30 am
Gotta love the people that say Palmer is OLD, or WASHED UP or INJURY PRONE at barely 32 years of age, but would kill for brady-36- brees-34 – manning-37- or- gasp Favre- 41- all with worse injuries histories -How old is Rivers?
August 26th, 2012 at 1:32 am
Orthodoxdj Says: Stop talking sensibly ,you’re on the wrong blog.
August 26th, 2012 at 1:33 am
Play Pryor the entire game on Thursday.
Let’s see what he can do.
August 26th, 2012 at 1:40 am
wow, sully..that’s not you is it? $$ is a jerk, but you’re just, well, sully.
August 26th, 2012 at 1:51 am
Wouldn’t you love the Mad Palmer for at least 3 years, maybe 4 with a protegee like Pryor showed tonight. I know Palmer is who Palmer is, but I would love to be wrong about Pryor and have him learn from one of the best gunslingers there ever was along with his talents and 3-4 years to get really good. Gives me shivers and makes Al turnoverin the grave so everybody else ca see themiddle finger. I know, it’s late
August 26th, 2012 at 2:07 am
I made it home from work to “talk” First I never Said I wanted to trade DHB. I said Trade DMAC Cut Palmer and Seymore, Lechler, Jon Condo. Palmer is Useless Stop drinking the Cool aid
August 26th, 2012 at 2:10 am
Dmac is Chaz But with way more Swag he’ll never play a full season for us trade him now so we can get atleast a pick for him
August 26th, 2012 at 2:20 am
Dhidee99 Says: ///////////////Yes or no; are you $$?
August 26th, 2012 at 2:25 am
No way. Thats gotta be the nimrod from siverandblackpride.
August 26th, 2012 at 2:35 am
I don’t mean to piss in your lemonade but Pryor/criner toasted the Jr. Varsity defense of Detroit. Listen to the level headed intelligent coach. Allen is a REAL coach. (Hujack would have been promising us the playoffs after this performance). I was there, it was fun and it was awesome to see our varsity dominate their varsity. Let just hope we are better prepared for Seattle than K.C. was. Go Raiders!!!!
BTY – Palmer owns the Chargers. He will beat them on MNF, the home opener.
August 26th, 2012 at 2:50 am
So, the Raids finally caught a break when Matt Lice injured his finger, huh ?
Been saying all along that giving Matt Lice anything more than a bare minimum of snaps was a waste of time.
Have also repeatedly stated that if CP goes down, Raids should roll with TP. No, he isn’t ready, but he might win games with his legs and an occasional deep throw. Lice isn’t going to win games and we have to find out if TP can be a QB or not.
Have also repeatedly said that TP’s ultimate future will be determined by whether he can become an accurate passer.
We already knew he could be an electrifying scrambler.
We had already seen signs that this guy is going to work his tail off and should eventually be able to command the huddle, get plays off on time, and hopefully become adept at reading defenses.
In my mind the book is still out on TP, simply bcz we don’t know if he’ll ever be accurate enough to be a premier QB.
As good as last nights performance was, outside of the throw to Criner on the move – which was extremely accurate and well placed – TP still has a long way to go before doubts regarding his accuracy can be dispelled.
The pick he threw that was negated by penalty was a pretty poor throw. The jump ball TD to Criner wasn’t a great throw either. Got the job done and the result was great – but not a great throw by any means.
Don’t want to temper the enthusiasm over TP. I am solidly in his corner, but I want to keep my assessment of him realistic. TP’s solid performance vindicates what I’ve been saying about the necessity to play him at the expense of giving Lice snaps.
That being said, I still have reservations over whether TP can ever be enough of a thrower to be a top notch NFL QB.
As I said yesterday, I’ll be watching closely for some meaningful throws, in the sense that they demonstrate accuracy, from TP.
I’m looking forward to seeing the entire game this evening. Have only seen a few plays on the NFLN. Pretty good showing from what I did see.
August 26th, 2012 at 2:53 am
Kirk Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 1:33 am
Play Pryor the entire game on Thursday.
Let’s see what he can do.
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4real CP3 seems colour-blind or something
August 26th, 2012 at 2:56 am
I think it was a pretty good game,defense played great again,offense moved the ball except for Brussels false starts we looked pretty good.I finally glad Allen tried a 4th and 1.
August 26th, 2012 at 3:01 am
RM99 I feel a lot better with ML backing up than I did with Boler.Hopefully we wont have to see him him play never mind start….but the club has invested in him heavily.All of the guys on the Oline now have to be able to play both sides in the event CP goes down.It must be a pisser for the young guys trying to make the club on the Oline.Beneficial down the road maybe but the righty lefty thing blows.
August 26th, 2012 at 3:11 am
what we found out:
we need to watch all of the preseason games before we make any sort of conclusions.
the offense can move the ball like we thought. we’ve still just barely glimpsed what dmc can do and i think he will be the story of the nfl. and palmer is settling in. streater is better than moore or ford at consistently getting open and getting 1st downs. rookie of the year? criner does have ability. pryor? wow! al davis was a tremendous evaluator. yes, his footwork is still in flux but u can see his confidence growing. in time, he could seriously be incredible. they’re aren’t many qb’s who have ever done that this early in career. we haven’t even see what they have planned for reece. myers is a decent TE, 35-40 catches is reasonable. alex parsons could be trouble, and brisiel gets knocked around a little too. really need wiz back. scmitt way better blocker than reece.
houston is gonna have a huge year. realy active. in on a lot of plays. kelly still really good. cumbie making a case for himself? really good at swatting those passes. and a sack too. burris is getting used to the game. he’s really flashing now. he’s way better than curry or mcclain already. bartell and spencer are holding it down. maybe gio needs to start at FS and let huff play nickel.
August 26th, 2012 at 3:14 am
Violent Hands Says: 4real CP3 seems colour-blind or something/////////////////////////Nah,he should not have thrown it in to those two messes(well, one of then, anyway)He just has lapses of judgement, not color discernation
August 26th, 2012 at 3:15 am
I still don’t like Knapp offense it is a Dink and dunk offense that doesn’t take advantage of our players skill. The Texans offense has more deep passes and deeper routes to take advantage of their speed.
August 26th, 2012 at 3:16 am
rob_raider Says: we need to watch all of the preseason games before we make any sort of conclusions.///////////////////////////////////////////////So should the coaches, and G.M.
August 26th, 2012 at 3:19 am
chuck Says:
I still don’t like Knapp offense it is a Dink and dunk offense that doesn’t take advantage of our players skill. The Texans offense has more deep passes and deeper routes to take advantage of their speed.////////////////Haven]t you complained either way?
August 26th, 2012 at 3:25 am
we went deep to dhb, streeter, and criner. when this offense is at full-go, and dmc is shredding, and we have dhb, streater, moore, jones, and reece invloved, the offense is going to be high-powered. top 5 offense. maybe better.
and the defense looks fantastic. houston is a man on fire. wheeler and burris are aggressive and take good angles. the cb’s can cover. this defense looks very good.
i really believe 11-5 is doable. easily.
August 26th, 2012 at 3:38 am
Even when Pryor threw that pick, I wasnt concerned nor condemning the kid. He sold the play action well and for the first time, I saw near flawless mechanics on his part. So I saw improvement, so I was happy. It was improvement that I just didnt expect to see this soon.
The rust is clearly starting to shake off.
For those of you whom want to dump Palmer, get a grip. Even Pryor would disagree with you. He gives Palmer nearly all of the credit for his improvements.
Palmer is missing his favorite receiver. And neither one of the INTs that happened yesterday should have occurred. Taiwan Jones was mugged and McGee owns the 2nd pick. But people will want to see what they want to see.
Speaking of Taiwan, the kid can ball.
Myers played well after some lengthy time off.
Our WR, DLine, and LB corps are showing some serious depth
Bartell shut down Megatron
Our O-Line did very good considering that was the best D-Line in football.
We have a lot to be excited about. Monday night against the SanDusky Chargers the Black Hole better be sold out, rocking, and ready to explode.
August 26th, 2012 at 3:41 am
Its clear who has agendas here. And those agendas seem more important to some of the alleged fans than actually winning.
We should be very concerned about the Seabass injury. Yet all anyone wants to talk about is how bad our starting QB, OC, and MLB are. Haters.
August 26th, 2012 at 4:19 am
Liked what I saw From Pryor… Let’s give the Kid a couple years to learn … We’re sitting pretty good At QB IMO …..Very good starter , good backup … And a good PROJECT in Pryor……i saw a team that hasnt it it all together yet but I can see it coming ….10 wins isn’t at all out of the Question…… And I can picture this team winning the Afc West…. And once a team makes the playoffs anythings possible….
August 26th, 2012 at 4:24 am
Has anyone noticed that ESPN isnt even covering the game? Go to their website. Nothing on the homepage or NFL page. Classic BSPN.
August 26th, 2012 at 4:25 am
Fingers Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 4:19 am
Liked what I saw From Pryor… Let’s give the Kid a couple years to learn … We’re sitting pretty good At QB IMO …..Very good starter , good backup … And a good PROJECT in Pryor……i saw a team that hasnt it it all together yet but I can see it coming ….10 wins isn’t at all out of the Question…… And I can picture this team winning the Afc West…. And once a team makes the playoffs anythings possible….
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We have gone from QB being one of our worst positions at the beginning of last season to it being one of, if not, the strongest position.
August 26th, 2012 at 4:33 am
Funny seeing Mistic and Debo (who are the same person) slapping each others on the back side last night. Palmer is the best QB on this team. He is the only one who gives Raiders a shot at making playoffs.
Was impressed enough with Pryor to say that if Palmer gets injured, Raiders should go with Pryor instead of Matty Ice.
August 26th, 2012 at 4:35 am
I am worried about Sea Bass injury. Carmona making a 56 yarder off dirt makes me feel a bit better.
August 26th, 2012 at 4:37 am
Intrepid Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 3:14 am
Violent Hands Says: 4real CP3 seems colour-blind or something/////////////////////////Nah,he should not have thrown it in to those two messes(well, one of then, anyway)He just has lapses of judgement, not color discernation
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I saw Favre make those same INTs. Palmer is a gunslinger too. Gonna have those sometimes.
August 26th, 2012 at 4:56 am
Riff… Yep, QB has been a weak spot for the Raiders for a longtime….. We’ve finally got a good foundation to build on…. I feel good about our backup as well as the possibility of Pryor someday becoming a Kick A$$ QB… …. Not to forget the Raiders defense is looking very good so far…..
August 26th, 2012 at 4:58 am
I know it’s got nothing to do with football….
Hero is a word used far too often these days – but not with this man.
R.i.p. Neil Armstrong.
August 26th, 2012 at 4:59 am
Riff, it’s just like restaurant reviews. You seldom see positive ones but the piss and moan type of Ahole will be there to write up a hate storm because the they had to ask twice for their ice water.
In Palmer I trust, and in Pryor I have faith!
August 26th, 2012 at 5:03 am
Riff….finally we are getting to see what Mr Knapp et al
have been hiding.I thank HueJax for getting us CP…Al would have approved I believe.
They have to be tailoring an offense to CP’s strengths otherwise they’re idiots.And it does not look to me like they are idiots.Just wondering what would be going on in here had the score been reversed.
I didn’t hear Parsons name called by Greg and Tom which is usually a good sign.How did he play?
August 26th, 2012 at 5:07 am
Twinkle … Agree… I don’t think Allen or McKenzie are idiots either…. I think they know exactly what their doing… And how their gonna do it …
August 26th, 2012 at 5:13 am
Snooki had her baby! Welcome to our sh*tty world Enzo.
August 26th, 2012 at 5:14 am
Suri Cruise is getting $400,000 a year in child support. Klas wishes he was Tom Cruise’s baby.
August 26th, 2012 at 5:16 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 4:33 am
Funny seeing Mistic and Debo (who are the same person) slapping each others on the back side last night. Palmer is the best QB on this team. He is the only one who gives Raiders a shot at making playoffs.
Was impressed enough with Pryor to say that if Palmer gets injured, Raiders should go with Pryor instead of Matty Ice.
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That’s not going to happen for two reasons.1.The backup Olinemen will be chosen according to their ability to be able to switch from left to right.AD said as much in TC.The starters have all played both sides already.2.AD has said that he’s real comfortable
with ML and he’s looked real solid in the games he’s played.So if they are OK with switching from big arm
righty to noodle arm lefty then Prior gets the space to learn.He gets tossed in the fire if CP goes down and we are 4-10.
August 26th, 2012 at 5:20 am
Twinkle, if Palmer goes down, it would be the same thing. Pryor is right handed too. If Matt is QB, season is most likely over. So why not play Pryor?
August 26th, 2012 at 5:31 am
Because if they put him in too soon and things don’t go well he’ll lose his confidence.One of hardest things to do in life is to develop a very short memory.Throws two picks in a row that cost us a game and he will lose faith
in his ability to make that throw when he has too.
Palmer will go out there and put the thing up the third time…..Pryor has to learn how to forget…quickly.
August 26th, 2012 at 5:31 am
As positive as I feel about Pryors performance, I am extremely concerned about the regression of Palmers. So far it appears that he cannot run Knapps offense (unless they are deliberately being vanilla) and I am not sure how many games its gonna cost the team this year, until something is done. So far what I feared is happening. All the people who wanted Jason Campbell out and promoted Palmer as a savior was premature. Palmer didnt have it when he left Cincinnati, and he doesnt magically have it now. I aint feeling good about Carson. IM CONCERNED!
August 26th, 2012 at 5:47 am
ddwight Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 5:31 am
As positive as I feel about Pryors performance, I am extremely concerned about the regression of Palmers. So far it appears that he cannot run Knapps offense (unless they are deliberately being vanilla) and I am not sure how many games its gonna cost the team this year, until something is done. So far what I feared is happening. All the people who wanted Jason Campbell out and promoted Palmer as a savior was premature. Palmer didnt have it when he left Cincinnati, and he doesnt magically have it now. I aint feeling good about Carson. IM CONCERNED!
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and you’ve every right to be.This was the first look
at the game plan and I imagine a very small part of it.Put up a few points on a damn good D.Palmer is an NFL caliber QB.I’ll put it this way.Were you more comfortable with Soup and Boler than CP and ML?If you were then I believe you are going to be pleasantly
surprised.Keep the faith.I don’t know where it will all end up but I know one thing.No matter what happens
(16-0 or 0-16) I’ll still be a RAIDER.
August 26th, 2012 at 5:47 am
Jerry McDonald @Jerrymcd
Raiders’ return game is God-awful at the moment. Noticed on a late replay coach Dennis Allen giving ST coach Steve Hoffman an earful.
August 26th, 2012 at 5:50 am
The Visor isnt concerned about CP3 at all.
If youre one of those people who thinks Palmer sucks, then you are basically saying that you know more than the Visor. That right there is hilarious.
August 26th, 2012 at 5:51 am
Plunketthead Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 5:47 am
Jerry McDonald @Jerrymcd
Raiders’ return game is God-awful at the moment. Noticed on a late replay coach Dennis Allen giving ST coach Steve Hoffman an earful.
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I caught that tweet also.
I love it that our coach is a screamer. And that he doesnt wait to make his opinions felt or heard.
Losing Fassel has so far proven to be a bad move.
August 26th, 2012 at 5:58 am
Plunketthead Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 5:47 am
Jerry McDonald @Jerrymcd
Raiders’ return game is God-awful at the moment. Noticed on a late replay coach Dennis Allen giving ST coach Steve Hoffman an earful.
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Don’t believe AD is terribly impressed with ST’s Period.
No doubt the poor bastard is on the Hot Seat.After reading the reason that Hoffman put forth to the press..why would anyone want to be a ST’s coach?
AD…Hey A$$hole you just got my HOF kicker fu@#$%^
up…whats up with that?
August 26th, 2012 at 5:58 am
ST could be the diff between 11-5 and 7-9
I bet DA takes over and spends the next 2 weeks fixing it or finding guys off the waiver that will fly on ST
Should be a few special teamers released
August 26th, 2012 at 6:00 am
Yeah, I said it last night. Fire Special Teams coach and hire that guy Steelers just fired.
August 26th, 2012 at 6:01 am
Probably should just take a knee in end zone. Returners can’t even get back to the 20 yard line.
August 26th, 2012 at 6:02 am
Odds of Eddie Carmona clearing waivers to make our Practice Squad……not too good I would imagine.
August 26th, 2012 at 6:03 am
Missed multiple field goals, had a punt blocked, can’t return for sh*t. Returners losing yards on returns running backwards. Now Jano is hurt because of terrible kick off coverage. Yikes!
August 26th, 2012 at 6:04 am
Twinkle Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 6:02 am
Odds of Eddie Carmona clearing waivers to make our Practice Squad……not too good I would imagine.
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He may not be cut. May have to keep him because of Jano’s injury. Chargers are cutting a kicker, could sign him.
August 26th, 2012 at 6:06 am
I really liked what we saw last night. Detroit has built a bully and we pushed them around pretty good last night.
CP was missing his starting center and two of his three WR’s. He will be throwing for over 300 yards a few times this year.
Good to see typhoon and Goodson healthy, throw in DMAC and Reese and we have an awesome backfield that can run and patch.
I am betting we will be a nightmare for teams to prepare for. On both sides of the ball we are doing something different so they cant go off their old notes.
Throw in a little TP wildcat in the red zone (not very often) and coaches will dread the RAIDERS again
Best year ever!!!
August 26th, 2012 at 6:06 am
This guy even looks like a turd:
http://www.raiders.com/team/coaches/steve-hoffman/7570bdbb-8621-40ce-b3a4-a71faab65159
August 26th, 2012 at 6:09 am
Hoffman has a good track record. Won 3 Super Bowls with Cowboys. What happened Steve? Are you on the bath salts now?
August 26th, 2012 at 6:10 am
There is Steve Hoffman sh*t storm coming. Don’t say I didn’t warn you.
August 26th, 2012 at 6:10 am
Twinkle Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 6:02 am
Odds of Eddie Carmona clearing waivers to make our Practice Squad……not too good I would imagine.
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It all depends on Jano’s injury.
If it’s serious to cost him opening day, then we put him on the PUP list and I dont believe he will cost us a roster spot.
Carmona cleared wires last year so we should be ok if we have to try and put him on the practice squad. But I’d rather not waste a roster spot on having two kickers, even if one is only on the practice squad.
I dont know how some teams get away with having a FG kicker AND a kick off specialist on their 45 who suit up. Thats crazy to me. Then again, Ive never really been in favor of keeping 3 QBs either.
August 26th, 2012 at 6:12 am
Plunketthead Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 6:06 am
CP was missing his starting center and two of his three WR’s.
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Dont remind the haters. They still have us pegged at going 5-11.
August 26th, 2012 at 6:13 am
http://hoffmankicking.com/wordpress/
A bunch of high school kids need to ask for their money back. They were hosed by a world class con man.
August 26th, 2012 at 6:16 am
Hoffman may or may not be a lousy coach but evil?
Klas, you sure you dont have him confused for a liberal?
August 26th, 2012 at 6:21 am
Plunk, Hoffman is trying to kill all Klas’ hopes and dreams.
August 26th, 2012 at 6:22 am
Damn these Mods are quirky.An innocuous post just got flushed.Yeah yeah I know they should all be.
#130.
I’m with him.
And Klas this is Jano’s 430th groin strain.What it will do is limit him to 60 yarders or less.He only runs toward
the returner to placate the fans who would be sooooo
pissed if he just stood there and watched.The end result is the same….only without the groin strain if he did nothing.If you have not seen him up close…..whew
the man is huge….and to listen to the opening kickoff….sounds like a rifle shot.Easily audible
over the crowd noise.He is an absolute treasure.
Word is if you get plowed out of bounds by him….
your name is MUD.
August 26th, 2012 at 6:26 am
The SeaBass injury really should be the only concern of ours right now.
How long til one of these faux reporters gets us any real information?
I wont hold my breathe. We still cant get a straight answer from Cork on if D17 will be ready for SanDiusky.
August 26th, 2012 at 6:27 am
Wasn’t Jano hurt at the beginning of the season 2 years ago? I seem to remember having two kickers for the first few games.
August 26th, 2012 at 6:32 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 6:27 am
Wasn’t Jano hurt at the beginning of the season 2 years ago? I seem to remember having two kickers for the first few games.
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True. But back then we had room on the roster for clowns like Kyle Boller.
We have a lot of “Reggies Guys” that we would like to keep around. The 53 is looking crowded at the moment.
August 26th, 2012 at 6:32 am
Good for TP. QB 2015 & beyond
August 26th, 2012 at 6:34 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 6:27 am
Wasn’t Jano hurt at the beginning of the season 2 years ago? I seem to remember having two kickers for the first few games.
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That’s realistic. Im with you on that. I had him at 2016 as of Friday but Im willing to accelerate things a tad. But I wouldnt expect him any earlier.
August 26th, 2012 at 6:36 am
Riff you may well be right but in my experience there is a dearth of kickers in the NFL that can hit a 56 yarder
off the infield dirt at the Colosseum.Fact that’s why Al
drafted Jano in the first round.
The 63 yarder at mile low whatever the 61 yarder into the wind at cleveland….not fuking possible…no way no how…There is not another human being that could have or
could now make that thing….best part was it won the game.
August 26th, 2012 at 6:38 am
Why did we take a ST coach that we terrorised last season
August 26th, 2012 at 6:41 am
Twinkle Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 6:36 am
Riff you may well be right but in my experience there is a dearth of kickers in the NFL that can hit a 56 yarder
off the infield dirt at the Colosseum.Fact that’s why Al
drafted Jano in the first round.
The 63 yarder at mile low whatever the 61 yarder into the wind at cleveland….not fuking possible…no way no how…There is not another human being that could have or
could now make that thing….best part was it won the game.
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Im not sure what your point is with this post. Its hard to follow.
I love Jano to death. Ive always been in his corner since day one.
August 26th, 2012 at 6:41 am
Violent Hands Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 6:38 am
Why did we take a ST coach that we terrorised last season
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perhaps the devil you know?
August 26th, 2012 at 6:46 am
Where are the posters who said Pryor could Never be an NFL QB?lol Someone posted before the season that Criner could be TP’s best friend, oh yeah that was me.
August 26th, 2012 at 6:48 am
Sanjay getting mad rep
At the start of the offseason, Jets receiver Santonio Holmes was viewed by some as a destructive force in the locker room. But Jets coach Rex Ryan still thought of Holmes as not only the Jets’ best receiver, but a player who deserved to be consulted on the direction of the team.
So before Ryan hired Sanjay Lal as the Jets’ new receivers coach, he set up a meeting between Lal and Holmes and asked Holmes to weigh in.
“It was important to make the right hire,” Ryan said, via Manish Mehta of the New York Daily News. “I wanted them to get a feel for each other.”
Holmes said he approved of Lal after meeting him at Ryan’s house.
“Sanjay was the right guy to bring in at the time,” Holmes said. “When we met at Coach Ryan’s house, we saw eye-to-eye with everything that we talked about. He’s a tough-nosed guy, very mechanical, loves to work on technique and doesn’t take any B.S. from the receivers.”
If Holmes is welcoming a coach who won’t take any B.S., that alone is progress in the Jets’ locker room
August 26th, 2012 at 6:50 am
I admit Pryor’s firt two preseason games had me wondering if he could be as good as Caballero. He proved that he has potential to be a Cam Newton Jr.
August 26th, 2012 at 6:51 am
Nice job last night Raiders.
- The offense (starters) has gotten a little better every week, we have dominated yardage and time of pos. each game without a lot of points to show for but it’s looking like we’ll move the ball well enough and that’s how you start.
- Red zone efficiency probably won’t be what we would like, but there’s still time to work on some options there.
- Conservative play-calling will remain an issue, that’s just Knapp’s style but as long as we win…I’ll take it.
- Defense looked solid again, not many blitzes this time around and we didn’t really needed them but I do feel like the Lions didn’t really tested our coverage that much, still a nice showing.
I the end, the most impressive showing last night…
Our OL handling Detroit’s vaunted front four and our front 7, specially the DL, stiffling a premier Offense.
In a game without a ton of game-planning, it’s nice to see we can win the battle at the Line of Scrimage, offensively and defensively.
August 26th, 2012 at 6:54 am
Terrelle Pryor.
I’m just happy for the kid, how can anyone root against him?.
The kid is facing a ton of pressure since he knows almost everybody expects him to fail as a QB, yet he keeps working hard and doing all the little things coaches ask young players to do.
He did not let adversity after a copule of bad outings let him down, he took it like a man and went back to work, no excuses.
I’m definitely a fan, great to see the kid get some reward for his hard work.
Look, Pryor has a long way to go, that’s obvious.
But tonight was a glimpse of his potential.
Remember the kid is more of a rookie than players drafted this year, those guys actually played football in 2011, TP over the past 20 months has played what barely amounts to 1 pre-season game.
TP is getting a little better every day, just like DA said he expected from him, as a recently turned 23 year old with superior athleticism and drive, he’s well worth waiting for.
August 26th, 2012 at 6:56 am
Bob Marley in the house!!!
One of the ELITE members of this blog. Top 4 member. First team semi.
August 26th, 2012 at 6:57 am
Lets not forget…
Terrell Pryor just lost:
- His Father
- His Mentor (2nd Father)
- And this week his Best Friend (His dog died)
Carson Palmer and the Raider Nation are carrying him thru these tough times. We need to show this kid all the love we can and he will one day repay us ten fold.
August 26th, 2012 at 6:58 am
Riff sorry if I’m a little vague….my post was reply to
your #135 and regarding the clearing of waivers.
I need to get more focused on my replies.
Basically I doubt the kid will be available to us after the cuts because of his ability.Jano will be around a
while longer god allowing and I just hope Tampa or Buffalo grabs him.Piss me off if he ends up in denver or kansas.I believe that Jano’s injury was a hammie that caused us to lose him for awhile.He is constantly straining his groin…which Tom Flores called it as.So I’m not that concerned….but I hope I’m right.If not then we will be carrying two kickers.
Just what we don’t need.
August 26th, 2012 at 6:59 am
Guys, how about Wheeler last night, dude is flyin’ around out there, best FA signing for sure on defense.imo
August 26th, 2012 at 7:00 am
TxRaider210 Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 6:46 am
Where are the posters who said Pryor could Never be an NFL QB?lol Someone posted before the season that Criner could be TP’s best friend, oh yeah that was me.
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Humility does suit you….you should stop fighting it.
LOL
August 26th, 2012 at 7:02 am
Twinkle Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 7:00 am
TxRaider210 Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 6:46 am
Where are the posters who said Pryor could Never be an NFL QB?lol Someone posted before the season that Criner could be TP’s best friend, oh yeah that was me.
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Humility does suit you….you should stop fighting it.
LOL
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I was just screwing around on that post, but we should see the Palmer haters emerge any moment now.lol
August 26th, 2012 at 7:05 am
Anyone except me think that Pryor’s game reminded them of the movie “On Any Given Sunday” ? Pryor could have been the Jamie Fox charactor.
August 26th, 2012 at 7:07 am
Exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 7:05 am
Anyone except me think that Pryor’s game reminded them of the movie “On Any Given Sunday” ? Pryor could have been the Jamie Fox charactor.
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What a great comparison!!!
Except we got a better coach
And Houdini doesnt have half the chip on his shoulder that Willie Beamen did, nor the ego. And Houdini has way more work ethic.
Similiar playing styles, but TP>Willie Beamen in a landslide.
August 26th, 2012 at 7:08 am
Riff, high and undeserved praise, thank you.
August 26th, 2012 at 7:08 am
TxRaider210 Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 6:59 am
Guys, how about Wheeler last night, dude is flyin’ around out there, best FA signing for sure on defense.imo
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As they say in hold em ….’the nuts’.
Be glad to out of preseason….dude is literally ‘killing
us’.
Oh so that is how the LB position is played.It has been a while.Thanks go out to all y’all that ‘tweeted’, ‘facebooked’ or blew him to get Mr Wheeler here….The man is a stud!!!
August 26th, 2012 at 7:08 am
The Sharks had a much better looking owner though. I’ll give em that
August 26th, 2012 at 7:08 am
Except he didn’t throw up! lol
August 26th, 2012 at 7:15 am
I watched the Detroit feed and the announcers at first could not believe what they were witnessing with Pryor. The hate was coming through the set as they had that Mich vs Ohio bias. They also could not understand our 1st team outplaying theirs. Impressed with our oline play. They handled one of the most impressive dlines with ease.
August 26th, 2012 at 7:16 am
15 cuts tmw, I believe. If Carmona isn’t one of them, that means Jani likely not ready for opener.
August 26th, 2012 at 7:17 am
exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 7:15 am
I watched the Detroit feed and the announcers at first could not believe what they were witnessing with Pryor. The hate was coming through the set as they had that Mich vs Ohio bias. They also could not understand our 1st team outplaying theirs. Impressed with our oline play. They handled one of the most impressive dlines with ease.
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Other than the very first snap, they sure did handle that D line well, Qb’s had plenty of time in the pocket.
August 26th, 2012 at 7:17 am
210 you must have just got here…A$$holes have been here all night.We even had MR arguing with himself.
Hey man if you predict something and get it right by all means pound yourself on the chest…nobody else will.
But we’ll all remember if you get it wrong apparently!
August 26th, 2012 at 7:17 am
Pryor’s play-making was nice to see, but to watch him get better at the basic QB stuff is the most important development from last night.
I recall DA saying TP needed to work in huddle management, gettting in and out faster and stuff like that, so it was nice to see Pryor get better at it, it shows he’s paying attention and working on what Coaches demand from him.
As Corkran pointed out above:
Pryor called his improvement with his comfort managing the game the primary reason for his improved play.
“The first thing that my coach Flip (John DeFilippo, quarterbacks coach) said when I got upstairs was, ‘Man, your huddle presence was 200,000 times better.’
That was the biggest thing that helped me was that I could get out earlier. I could get out and see the defense and break down the possibilities of what the defense could possibly be rather than running up to the huddle and having seven seconds left and I’ve got to snap the ball.”
“Terrelle did a nice job,” Allen said.
“He came in and threw a couple of nice balls, two for touchdowns, both of them to Criner, so that was good to see. He managed the huddle a lot better in this game, which was really an area of improvement we were looking for out of him. He’s still a work in progress, but I thought he made some strides today.”
August 26th, 2012 at 7:18 am
Mistic was congratulating himself last night with his Debo alter ego.
August 26th, 2012 at 7:20 am
exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 7:15 am
I watched the Detroit feed and the announcers at first could not believe what they were witnessing with Pryor. The hate was coming through the set as they had that Mich vs Ohio bias. They also could not understand our 1st team outplaying theirs. Impressed with our oline play. They handled one of the most impressive dlines with ease.
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Ex did Parsons do OK?Greg and Tom didn’t mention him
……….usually a good sign.Worried about Wiz II.
August 26th, 2012 at 7:21 am
On the other hand, TP made that first TD throw to Criner without setting his feet and even jumped a little when releasing the ball,the pressure was closing but he still needs to master his footwork.
August 26th, 2012 at 7:22 am
Anyone notice Giordano save two plays last night that would have been for sure TDs? Dude can still play at a very high level, like that he never gives up on the play.
August 26th, 2012 at 7:23 am
Twinkle Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 7:20 am
exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 7:15 am
I watched the Detroit feed and the announcers at first could not believe what they were witnessing with Pryor. The hate was coming through the set as they had that Mich vs Ohio bias. They also could not understand our 1st team outplaying theirs. Impressed with our oline play. They handled one of the most impressive dlines with ease.
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Ex did Parsons do OK?Greg and Tom didn’t mention him
……….usually a good sign.Worried about Wiz II.
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Parsons is still a liability. We need Wiz back.
August 26th, 2012 at 7:24 am
Parsons looked good. Someone need to work with Tollefson. Lining up in the neutral zone twice is unacceptable.
August 26th, 2012 at 7:25 am
Twinkle Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 7:17 am
210 you must have just got here…A$$holes have been here all night.We even had MR arguing with himself.
Hey man if you predict something and get it right by all means pound yourself on the chest…nobody else will.
But we’ll all remember if you get it wrong apparently!
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LOL I figured that much, after the night TP had and CP’s INTs. I’ll admit when I’m wrong, as I did Friday about Benson, didn’t think he’d play well against Cincy..
August 26th, 2012 at 7:25 am
If your head is past the ball, your offsides.
August 26th, 2012 at 7:27 am
Bob Marley Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 7:21 am
On the other hand, TP made that first TD throw to Criner without setting his feet and even jumped a little when releasing the ball,the pressure was closing but he still needs to master his footwork.
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He’s in good hands and with all running QB’s step one is to stop running…he’s got that part down.Tebow could learn a lot off this young man.
He is an incredibly gifted kid who wants to be the best…he will be.
August 26th, 2012 at 7:29 am
I do have one complain about last night, why are we playing Desmond Bryant into the 4th quarter? he remained in there long after the starters were gone, he may not start regularly but he’s a key player for us, better take care of him, his break-out season is coming.
August 26th, 2012 at 7:31 am
Megatron had 1 catch for 7 yards on 5 targets, hell of a job defense!!
August 26th, 2012 at 7:31 am
Most Palmer worshipers here are full of crap. You make we excuses for a qb that is clearly struggling going back to last year. Noone would accept his horrible decisions bone headed play or excuses for his miserable performance if it was any other qb on our team.
Palmer looks like he will continue throwing us right out of the playoff race,& if this does end up being the case look for tp to start the last 2-3 games of the season.
If you are going to run with a qb that throws lots of picks then let it be the rookie that makes those mistakes. What Palmer is doing us an embarrassment at the moment & hu jack & the raiders look like the bungles took them to the cleaners.
So far the trade is a major bust
August 26th, 2012 at 7:31 am
Before we put Pryor into Canton we have to realize that teams will gameplan more agaisnt him if they know he’s starting in reg season and that means keeping him in the pocket where he can’t do much damage with his legs.
He will absolutely need to make throws…which can open things up for him to run around the edge and make plays with his legs.
Last nite was a good sign that he may be able to make a few throws. If he can become a good passer then he can be a crazy threat in this league.
August 26th, 2012 at 7:33 am
Mike Mitchell also played well into the 4th quarter, as he’s done every game, don’t know if he’s fighting for a spot or if he’s just training as the 2nd unit captain or something because he’s often talking to the other players.
August 26th, 2012 at 7:37 am
DJ Johnny Says:
Before we put Pryor into Canton we have to realize that teams will gameplan more agaisnt him if they know he’s starting in reg season and that means keeping him in the pocket where he can’t do much damage with his legs.
He will absolutely need to make throws…which can open things up for him to run around the edge and make plays with his legs.
Last nite was a good sign that he may be able to make a few throws. If he can become a good passer then he can be a crazy threat in this league.
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DJ.
Patience man, I think we all get what you just said and it’s definitely true but we have Carson Palmer for at least the next 2 seasons, no need to rush judgement on TP just yet, kid is getting a little better every day, I imagine he’ll be much improved at this time next year.
August 26th, 2012 at 7:38 am
Corky was at the front of the line telling the world that Pryor couldn’t play QB in the NFL and was going to be moved to TE. 95% of the blog parroted that BS.
August 26th, 2012 at 7:39 am
I see a defense staying in their gaps and the tackling is much improved! R Seymour not even missed, let him come off the bench, Fk you Rich. L Houston dropped a few lbs he is looking better on the end….however that fifi peroxide bleach job is a hideous look someone needs to hold him down and run clippers over that mess.
smh
SeaPerch looking like he hasn’t kicked a football in 10 years can’t run 10 yards without pulling a groin…..CUT PERCH! CUT BAIT!
August 26th, 2012 at 7:39 am
Cumbie was very impressive. That guy is huge and mean. I know he lit up the scrubs, but I would like to see what he can do against the 1’s.
August 26th, 2012 at 7:40 am
Our backfield better fix their fumbling issues while ST’s are getting a makeover the next two weeks
August 26th, 2012 at 7:40 am
Seems that most of CP’s issues are just mental errors, I’m hoping he can cut back on those and throw the ball away in real games.
August 26th, 2012 at 7:41 am
182,
I think we all know where u stand on Palmer. Is there anything else you can talk about in regard to the team?
How about some of the good things from last night..besides Pryor.
August 26th, 2012 at 7:41 am
Colts trade for Goodson & Ford !!
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000055027/article/colts-jim-irsay-trades-gotta-get-done-soon?module=HP11_headline_stack
August 26th, 2012 at 7:41 am
It’s great that TP is making progess as far as huddle presence and management goes.
Have to clear one hurdle at a time.
Still, in the grand scheme of things, this is a rather minor hurdle. Ultimately, TP is going to have to demonstrate the ability to be consistently accurate with his throws.
Think most of us were confident that his scrambling, mobility and ability to extend a play was off the charts good.
The roll and toss to Criner on the crossing route was accurate and very well placed. Far more impressive than the jump ball TD, which was actually underthrown.
The interception that was negated by penalty was a rather poor toss.
A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step. TP appears to be on his way, but there’s still quite a distance to travel.
August 26th, 2012 at 7:42 am
I like where Pryor is leave him at the #3 spot. Let him watch and learn. Groom his azz because he is the future. Let him work on mechanics and his pocket game. Keep him hungry and when Palmer runs his course we may have something VERY special.
#Pryor
August 26th, 2012 at 7:43 am
Zopi Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 7:38 am
Corky was at the front of the line telling the world that Pryor couldn’t play QB in the NFL and was going to be moved to TE. 95% of the blog parroted that BS.
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95%, really? I don’t believe that. Lots of folks pulling for TP in here.
August 26th, 2012 at 7:45 am
Play Houdini the entire game next week and see if he remains consistent.
August 26th, 2012 at 7:46 am
Comparisons between tp & tebow are both lazy & inaccurate. Tp is a far better passer, & a much better passer.
Give him credit he has worked very hard since he was drafted and it is showing on the field as he gets accustomed to playing. He has shaken of the rust , nfl debut jitters, & his throwing motion is 100 times better than it was as a buck eye. This kid only needs game reps & he may be our own new wave qb. Plus we have yet to see a game plan tailored to fit his game.
August 26th, 2012 at 7:46 am
It’s not even worth wasting the time and effort typing the arguments onto the keyboard. It’s pointless. The starter is CP and will be this year. TP will continue to learn and get his shot. It’s as easy as that.
There is a lot more to talk about than this never ending loop of delusional banter.
August 26th, 2012 at 7:47 am
@ Morilla
what’s sad is Cumbie may get cut due to us being stacked at DT [Seymour, Kelly, Bryant & Bilukidi]
then he becomes a beast elsewhere and Seymour continues his scholarships thru the year and retires next offseason
August 26th, 2012 at 7:48 am
Thanks Ex….my concern was for Parsons with Wiz II out.
The Center is the Kingpin of the whole shabang.We Have gorilla’s up the yin yang but not too many centers.
I was seeing Suh sending him home to mother in a cardboard box.
August 26th, 2012 at 7:48 am
Palmer = chance at making playoffs
Leinart = 6-10, 7-9
Pryor = 4-12
August 26th, 2012 at 7:48 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain:
Most Palmer worshipers here are full of crap. You make we excuses for a qb that is clearly struggling going back to last year. Noone would accept his horrible decisions bone headed play or excuses for his miserable performance if it was any other qb on our team.
Palmer looks like he will continue throwing us right out of the playoff race…
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Really?.
Because over his last meaningful playing time, 2011 final 3 games, with a playoff spot on the line, Carson Palmer completed 68.8 percent of his passes, averaged 340 yards per game and threw 4 TD’s and 3 Int’s.
Palmer kept us in the playoff race buddy, the Defense kept us out.
August 26th, 2012 at 7:48 am
There is a lot more to talk about than this never ending loop of delusional banter.
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Don’t waste your time. You can’t argue with idiots.
August 26th, 2012 at 7:49 am
Marley, #202 – see post #203
August 26th, 2012 at 7:50 am
Cam Newton 2011
60.0% 4,051 yrds 21 TD 17 INTs
Panthers 6-10
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No way would Pryor equal those numbers. They were 6-10. Pryor would make way too many mistakes to win many games.
August 26th, 2012 at 7:51 am
I think winning that game was good for the psyche of the team.
Some teams need a W to get a little bit of confidence going into reg season.
Although it doesn’t mean anything per se, to have your one win come against a quality team like Detroit and the way the D played…it sure isn’t a bad thing.
August 26th, 2012 at 7:52 am
DHB made the catch of his life was beautiful to watch…
But the db was step for step with him. Where is all that speed he gets ZERO separation!
August 26th, 2012 at 7:52 am
Good win last night. It doesn’t matter what happens against Seattle now.
August 26th, 2012 at 7:53 am
Try Some Reality.
I know, just throwing some facts out there, there’s no getting around those.
August 26th, 2012 at 7:53 am
Klas what’s good man? How about the defense last night, those guys were tackling like machines.
August 26th, 2012 at 7:53 am
Raiders put 4 Lions on the sideline. From ESPN…
OAKLAND, Calif. — The all-important third preseason game for Matthew Stafford and the Detroit Lions turned out to be a real Bay Area bruiser.
August 26th, 2012 at 7:54 am
DHB caught that ball on the back of the DB’s head basically, nice concentration to haul it in.
August 26th, 2012 at 7:54 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 7:47 am
@ Morilla
what’s sad is Cumbie may get cut due to us being stacked at DT [Seymour, Kelly, Bryant & Bilukidi]
then he becomes a beast elsewhere and Seymour continues his scholarships thru the year and retires next offseason
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Yeah, and that is a horrible situation. I wish they would play him with the first group on Thursday. I would hate for us to lose a young talent like that due to the pecking order. We need to keep the Dline stocked.
August 26th, 2012 at 7:55 am
We need to make teams dread coming out to Oakland again. I think last night was a good step in that direction.
August 26th, 2012 at 7:56 am
Most Palmer worshipers here are full of crap. You make we excuses for a qb that is clearly struggling going back to last year. Noone would accept his horrible decisions bone headed play or excuses for his miserable performance if it was any other qb on our team.
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Maybe.
But the Palmer worshippers aren’t as full of crap as the fools that kept insisting Jason Campbell was a fabulous QB, despite all the stinkers he put up.
I can think of one in particuler.
August 26th, 2012 at 7:56 am
*particular
August 26th, 2012 at 7:57 am
I like watching TP out there throwing to Criner, just in case he were to throw a floater, Criner may still have a chance to go up for it.imo
August 26th, 2012 at 7:57 am
What about McGee, fellas? I thought he really stunk it up. I know some of you had him making the cuts but after last night I’m not so sure.
August 26th, 2012 at 7:59 am
I’m sure Reg likes McGee as far as height, but he may be gone soon if Reg has his eyes on a WR.
August 26th, 2012 at 8:00 am
TxRaider210 Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 7:53 am
Klas what’s good man? How about the defense last night, those guys were tackling like machines.
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They were tackling with Swedish efficiency!
August 26th, 2012 at 8:01 am
Cut McGhee and Steve Hoffman.
August 26th, 2012 at 8:02 am
218,
It’s too bad for the guy. He may look back at last night and know it was his one chance to have a career in the NFL…and blew it.
August 26th, 2012 at 8:03 am
Morning semis. Chking in from the santa cruz wharf and waiting for my outrigger race. Beautiful here my semis.
How about that pryor. I think we can put to rest for a few weeks that TP cant throw. Kid is awesome in streetball. Hopefully he can dev into a good field general as well.
Our D is looking great. Cant believe Criner was on lower depth chart than session and mcgee. But session looked good too. We gonna be great this yr. Pass the koolaid baby.
If any of you show up to the poly fest today. Say hi. Ill be waering my raider taylormade hat. Peace.
August 26th, 2012 at 8:04 am
Through three preseason games:
Points scored, 2011: 40
Yards gained, 2011: 923
Points scored, 2012: 48
Yards gained, 2012: 1,050
Points surrendered to opponents, 2011: 81
Yards surrendered to opponents, 2011: 1,514
Points surrendered to opponents, 2012: 54
Yards surrendered to opponents, 2012: 705
In other words, we’re better pretty much across the board, ESPECIALLY on defense. Jason Tarver for President!
August 26th, 2012 at 8:04 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 8:00 am
TxRaider210 Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 7:53 am
Klas what’s good man? How about the defense last night, those guys were tackling like machines.
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They were tackling with Swedish efficiency!
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LOL Back to the days when teams feared the Raider D, good times!
August 26th, 2012 at 8:05 am
#183.
Hey sully whats up?
Whiner blog have no action?
August 26th, 2012 at 8:05 am
Again, no hating on Carson Palmer, as I’ve said all along living in SoCal, I have followed his career from the time he played high school in OC. He was highly touted then when he was signed by SC. But, it wasn’t until Norm Chow came to SC who turned Palmer into a Heisman. Then, as the #1 pick overall with the bungles, had one good year at the start of his career when he was surrounded by good WRs. However, 10 years later, he has never lived up to his expectations and salary. Currently, he’s in the top 10 salary for QBs, but would anybody here think is a top 10 QB? Palmer is somewhere in the 20s, and as many fans and critics have said he’s sadly regressing.
If I were Carson and saw what Pryor can do, I too would be lighting a fire on my butt.
Then again, if I were RegMac or Coach Allen, and given that most people are given an 8-8 record for 2012 with Palmer under center, wouldn’t it be better to go with Pryor and take the lumps now, while building for the future?
I know RegMac, the Raiders, and us are stuck with Palmer, however could he be traded? I know the Raiders will never get what was traded away, but you never know, there could be another Hue somewhere out there, no?
August 26th, 2012 at 8:05 am
Mcgee chose the wrong time to have game jitters. RA wouldnt bring him in if he didnt have hands. Practice squad i think. Sess io n seems like a big dude. Our wr corp is looking more like GB west.
August 26th, 2012 at 8:05 am
#224 – Nice. Thanks for that, Duck.
August 26th, 2012 at 8:05 am
I’m sure McGee will get one more look on Thursday, but it’s looking like a tough road with the emergence of the young Wrs. Ford should be really worried at this point.
August 26th, 2012 at 8:06 am
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 7:56 am
Most Palmer worshipers here are full of crap. You make we excuses for a qb that is clearly struggling going back to last year. Noone would accept his horrible decisions bone headed play or excuses for his miserable performance if it was any other qb on our team.
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Maybe.
But the Palmer worshippers aren’t as full of crap as the fools that kept insisting Jason Campbell was a fabulous QB, despite all the stinkers he put up.
I can think of one in particuler.
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You are too kind sir.
August 26th, 2012 at 8:07 am
I’m I mistaken that the 1st round of cuts start tomorrow?
August 26th, 2012 at 8:08 am
12 guys have to be gone tomorrow. McGee will PROBABLY stick around for game 4, where he’d better make it count.
August 26th, 2012 at 8:12 am
Cliff Harris just got cut by the Eagles. I’d love to see Reggie bring him in.
August 26th, 2012 at 8:13 am
Streater is that possession guy we have so desperately been searching for. He reminds me of someone, but I can’t put my finger on it.
What’s also refreshing is that none of these guys are divas. Well, you have Criner holding out for 14K, but all of his interviews he comes off as a humble guy. It’s going to be a fun year watching our Wr’s.
August 26th, 2012 at 8:14 am
Morilla, Streater reminds me of Jerry Rice.
August 26th, 2012 at 8:15 am
Twinkle Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 8:05 am
#183.
Hey sully whats up?
Whiner blog have no action?
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What did I say in that post that’s even remotely “sully like’?
Are u referring to a different post?
August 26th, 2012 at 8:16 am
Quarterback Matt Leinart also did not dress, still wearing a bandage on his right index finger. Leinart was throwing to Moore on the field before the game and Moore looked to be moving well.
Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/2012/08/26/4757922/raiders-notes.html#storylink=cpy
August 26th, 2012 at 8:16 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 8:14 am
Morilla, Streater reminds me of Jerry Rice.
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Yeah, very fluid and natural.
August 26th, 2012 at 8:17 am
DHB.
He’s a hard guy to figure out, I think the closest comparison would be T.O. not production wise yet, but playing style.
Both are big, strong and long armed, they’re ferocious run-blockers and hard workers and both will drop easy passes, hell TO is still doing it at age 38.
But DHB has similar run after the catch potential and while he’ll never be a true deep threat, CB’s still fear his speed so much that he gets a ton of cushion on most plays.
T.O. became an All-Pro during Knapp’s tenure in SF by catching shorter passes and using his run after catch ability, DHB might be the one player whose game truly fits Knapp’s Offense, his best years may be coming, starting in 2012.
August 26th, 2012 at 8:18 am
DJ Johnny Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 8:15 am
Twinkle Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 8:05 am
#183.
Hey sully whats up?
Whiner blog have no action?
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What did I say in that post that’s even remotely “sully like’?
Are u referring to a different post?
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You went against the company line. Anyone not drunk on kool aid is Sully.
August 26th, 2012 at 8:18 am
Plunketthead Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 8:16 am
Quarterback Matt Leinart also did not dress, still wearing a bandage on his right index finger. Leinart was throwing to Moore on the field before the game and Moore looked to be moving well.
Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/2012/08/26/4757922/raiders-notes.html#storylink=cpy
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Headline reads “RB Jones makes case for roster spot”
LOL @ SacBee
August 26th, 2012 at 8:18 am
Bob Marley Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 7:53 am
Try Some Reality.
I know, just throwing some facts out there, there’s no getting around those.
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Oh, some will try to get around em.
August 26th, 2012 at 8:19 am
Does Sullivan work for Sac Bee?
August 26th, 2012 at 8:19 am
Once the regular season starts and Palmer shreds the chargers defense, all the nay sayers will be swinging from his sack.
August 26th, 2012 at 8:20 am
Im not worried about McGee. It was the guys first action. Jitters are expected. Relax guys, he’s our #6 WR. The talent is there to warrant his spot on the team.
August 26th, 2012 at 8:20 am
As if Lonyae Miller was going to take Jones spot. SacBee doesn’t know sh1t.
August 26th, 2012 at 8:21 am
Ray_d Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 8:19 am
Once the regular season starts and Palmer shreds the chargers defense, all the nay sayers will be swinging from his sack.
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No. The Hater-Raiders will disappear just like they did last night.
While the offense was racking up massive yards and we were controlling the game, the Knapp and Palmer haters were nowhere to be found.
August 26th, 2012 at 8:22 am
242.Try Some Reality Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 8:18 am
Plunketthead Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 8:16 am
Quarterback Matt Leinart also did not dress, still wearing a bandage on his right index finger. Leinart was throwing to Moore on the field before the game and Moore looked to be moving well.
Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/2012/08/26/4757922/raiders-notes.html#storylink=cpy
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Headline reads “RB Jones makes case for roster spot”
LOL @ SacBee
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I have not heard anything about moore. I think thats all the news on him, isnt it?
August 26th, 2012 at 8:22 am
Palmer could throw for 400 yards against San Diego and throw one INT. Mistic would harp on that all week.
August 26th, 2012 at 8:24 am
DJ you just freaked me out.No I got the number right.
Yours was #184.
Whew…I triple check this sh!t. Just so This doesn’t happen.
August 26th, 2012 at 8:24 am
Morilla Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 8:13 am
Streater is that possession guy we have so desperately been searching for. He reminds me of someone, but I can’t put my finger on it.
What’s also refreshing is that none of these guys are divas. Well, you have Criner holding out for 14K, but all of his interviews he comes off as a humble guy. It’s going to be a fun year watching our Wr’s.
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Yep. We all had Criner wrong from the holdout debacle. The kid looks humble and anything but a diva.
I love our WR corps ribght now. All of them are playing with something to prove and are absolute WORKER BEES.
DHB – Nobody works harder, still trying to prove his draft status
D17 – Still wants to show all the teams who passed him what a mistake it was
Ford – no comment
Lighting Rod – Jerry Rice clone that is mad as he11 that he went undrafted
Criner – Another guy who has something to prove
McGee – I love practice squad guys like him that work their way into the league
August 26th, 2012 at 8:25 am
Klas,
I loved what Pryor did last night. It gave me hope in regard to him.
Maybe the “lets not put Pryor in Canton” line came off as smart aleky, i was just pointing out that defenses will actually game plan agaisnt him if they know he’s gonna be the starter and that they’ll try to keep him contained in the pocket.
He showed he can make some throws last night.
I would love it if he took the league by storm and I like him.
First time i’ve ever been accused of being Sully…ha.
August 26th, 2012 at 8:25 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 8:22 am
Palmer could throw for 400 yards against San Diego and throw one INT. Mistic would harp on that all week.
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I wouldnt expect anything less from a SanDusky Charger fan like Mistic
August 26th, 2012 at 8:25 am
Zopi Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 8:05 am
Again, no hating on Carson Palmer, as I’ve said all along living in SoCal, I have followed his career from the time he played high school in OC. He was highly touted then when he was signed by SC. But, it wasn’t until Norm Chow came to SC who turned Palmer into a Heisman. Then, as the #1 pick overall with the bungles, had one good year at the start of his career when he was surrounded by good WRs. However, 10 years later, he has never lived up to his expectations and salary. Currently, he’s in the top 10 salary for QBs, but would anybody here think is a top 10 QB? Palmer is somewhere in the 20s, and as many fans and critics have said he’s sadly regressing.
If I were Carson and saw what Pryor can do, I too would be lighting a fire on my butt.
Then again, if I were RegMac or Coach Allen, and given that most people are given an 8-8 record for 2012 with Palmer under center, wouldn’t it be better to go with Pryor and take the lumps now, while building for the future?
I know RegMac, the Raiders, and us are stuck with Palmer, however could he be traded? I know the Raiders will never get what was traded away, but you never know, there could be another Hue somewhere out there, no?
……..
Palmer has no trade value at this point he has been exposed as an over hyped I over paid fraud, the raiders are the butt of jokes for it.
This may go down as one of the worst trades in nfl history, so far it is easily one of the worst in raided history. Based on the lack of wins the turn over rate & the price paid to land him.
August 26th, 2012 at 8:26 am
Raider Riff Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 8:21 am
While the offense was racking up massive yards and we were controlling the game, the Knapp and Palmer haters were nowhere to be found.
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Yup. Notice how Al_is_theraiders has completely vanished. Of course, I expect him to pop up in all his trollish glory the minute we trail by 3 in a regular season game…
August 26th, 2012 at 8:27 am
Twinkle Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 8:24 am
DJ you just freaked me out.No I got the number right.
Yours was #184.
Whew…I triple check this sh!t. Just so This doesn’t happen.
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You mean you were referring to # 184 as opposed to my # 183…right?
It’s all good.
August 26th, 2012 at 8:29 am
I mean, you are referring to # 182 right?
Never mind, i understand.
August 26th, 2012 at 8:30 am
DJ…Take a breath…dude I am referring too is MR not you.
August 26th, 2012 at 8:30 am
DJ Johnny Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 8:25 am
Klas,
I loved what Pryor did last night. It gave me hope in regard to him.
Maybe the “lets not put Pryor in Canton” line came off as smart aleky, i was just pointing out that defenses will actually game plan agaisnt him if they know he’s gonna be the starter and that they’ll try to keep him contained in the pocket.
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No doubt Johnny.
But even his biggest fans have been humbled (see RRS and O). They know he’s still a project. We all know that.
All any of us wanted to see was a certain trajectory of progress. And last night he slightly exceeded what many of us expected from him by the end of this preseason game.
IMO he started camp the equivalent of a sophmore in college. He’s progressing at a solid rate and by next year, I’d upgrade his status and expectations accordingly.
We’re not putting him in Canton yet. We’re just excited to see the progress, even if it is little stuff that he shoulda already known coming into the league. The main thing is that this kid has insane work ethic and mentors and it appears to be paying off. That is plenty to be excited about IMO.
August 26th, 2012 at 8:34 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
Palmer has no trade value at this point he has been exposed as an over hyped I over paid fraud, the raiders are the butt of jokes for it.
This may go down as one of the worst trades in nfl history, so far it is easily one of the worst in raided history. Based on the lack of wins the turn over rate & the price paid to land him.
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Nope. You are the butt of all the jokes.
I’d love to go to a game with Mistic and watch him spout off all his anti-Raiderisms while in the stands. He wouldnt last 20 minutes before the crowd threw him out.
It would be so funny to watch. The only crappy thing would be getting hit by any stray hot dogs that were being flung at him.
August 26th, 2012 at 8:35 am
This guy is worth picking up:
“49ers RB Anthony Dixon is unlikely make the 53-man roster.
Frank Gore, Kendall Hunter, and LaMichael James are obvious locks to stick. Coach Jim Harbaugh already said Brandon Jacobs’ spot is safe and Rock Cartwright is expected to stay on as a special team contributor.
That leaves Dixon on the outside look in. Reportedly in great shape, the 6′1/233 Dixon figures to get snatched up quickly on waivers.”
- I remember him from his draft year and looking good in pre-season in the past, powerful downhill runner who could help is short-yardage situations and maybe develop into a useful back.
August 26th, 2012 at 8:35 am
DVD get any play last night ?
August 26th, 2012 at 8:36 am
Mistic is literally rooting against Palmer so he can win a debate.
By default, he is rooting against the Raiders.
I cant believe someones hatred for our QB is more important than our teams success.
Mistic = Non Raider fan.
August 26th, 2012 at 8:36 am
Burris also had a couple of violent tackles. Hurry up with the 56 jerseys Raider image. Also Tollefson and Wheeler look like nice additions. Wheeler has a motor that doesn’t stop. That’s how a LB plays. This D is going to light up the Chargers.
August 26th, 2012 at 8:37 am
Bob Marley Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 8:35 am
This guy is worth picking up:
“49ers RB Anthony Dixon is unlikely make the 53-man roster.
Frank Gore, Kendall Hunter, and LaMichael James are obvious locks to stick. Coach Jim Harbaugh already said Brandon Jacobs’ spot is safe and Rock Cartwright is expected to stay on as a special team contributor.
That leaves Dixon on the outside look in. Reportedly in great shape, the 6′1/233 Dixon figures to get snatched up quickly on waivers.”
- I remember him from his draft year and looking good in pre-season in the past, powerful downhill runner who could help is short-yardage situations and maybe develop into a useful back.
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49ers, Saints, and Miami are all super deep at RB.
I’d be worried about it if I were Goodson but JFB makes a good point about Goodsons ST abilities.
August 26th, 2012 at 8:37 am
Raider Riff Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 8:34 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
Palmer has no trade value at this point he has been exposed as an over hyped I over paid fraud, the raiders are the butt of jokes for it.
This may go down as one of the worst trades in nfl history, so far it is easily one of the worst in raided history. Based on the lack of wins the turn over rate & the price paid to land him.
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Nope. You are the butt of all the jokes.
I’d love to go to a game with Mistic and watch him spout off all his anti-Raiderisms while in the stands. He wouldnt last 20 minutes before the crowd threw him out.
It would be so funny to watch. The only crappy thing would be getting hit by any stray hot dogs that were being flung at him.
……
So admission that Palmer has been awful in Oakland is anti raiderism?
Grow up.
August 26th, 2012 at 8:37 am
Maybe this thing comes out differently number wise but I don’t believe anyone in here sees you other than an opinionated RAIDER fan which I believe we are all in here for….other than MR….whose MO is yet to be figured out.
August 26th, 2012 at 8:38 am
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 8:35 am
DVD get any play last night ?
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Yeah. All 2nd team I believe.
We had our starters in so that we could do our best against Megatron.
August 26th, 2012 at 8:39 am
Raider Riff Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 8:36 am
Mistic is literally rooting against Palmer so he can win a debate.
By default, he is rooting against the Raiders.
I cant believe someones hatred for our QB is more important than our teams success.
Mistic = Non Raider fan.
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Aig did the same thing with Campbell. Wanted to see him fail so Grads (our savior) could start.
August 26th, 2012 at 8:40 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
So admission that Palmer has been awful in Oakland is anti raiderism?
Grow up.
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You take pleasure in Palmers faults. Something only a Raider hater would do.
You are hoping he fails. Something only a Raider hater would do.
If it looks like a duck and walks like a duck…. you know the rest.
August 26th, 2012 at 8:40 am
Lighting Rod – Jerry Rice clone that is mad as he11 that he went
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Fk Jerry Rice and all the frauds who love that btch
Streater is nothing like that fag
August 26th, 2012 at 8:41 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 8:39 am
Raider Riff Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 8:36 am
Mistic is literally rooting against Palmer so he can win a debate.
By default, he is rooting against the Raiders.
I cant believe someones hatred for our QB is more important than our teams success.
Mistic = Non Raider fan.
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Aig did the same thing with Campbell. Wanted to see him fail so Grads (our savior) could start.
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I dont think so. I think AIG is a solid contributor here. Not a broken record. And certainly not a troll. I currently rank AIG as an all-2nd team semi pro. His stances are solid.
And he was dead right about Campbell. The guy was trash.
August 26th, 2012 at 8:42 am
Raider Riff Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 8:36 am
Mistic is literally rooting against Palmer so he can win a debate.
By default, he is rooting against the Raiders.
I cant believe someones hatred for our QB is more important than our teams success.
Mistic = Non Raider fan.
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That’s the best you can do? Putting words in my mouth? I dont root against Palmer, I’m only honey about what is happening on Sundays since he has been here. I have never rooted against a raider player but I will call him out when he is lousy.
Right now he is looking up to RGIII russel Wilson they are rookies also lead ing a new offense. Just admit Palmer has been terrible and he trade is a flop at this point.
August 26th, 2012 at 8:42 am
Method To My Madness Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 8:40 am
Lighting Rod – Jerry Rice clone that is mad as he11 that he went
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Fk Jerry Rice and all the frauds who love that btch
Streater is nothing like that fag
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And then we have this guy! #coocooforcocoapuffs
August 26th, 2012 at 8:44 am
I dont think so. I think AIG is a solid contributor here. Not a broken record. And certainly not a troll. I currently rank AIG as an all-2nd team semi pro. His stances are solid.
And he was dead right about Campbell. The guy was trash.
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Yeah, but he openly rooted for the Steelers to trash the Raiders two years ago.
August 26th, 2012 at 8:45 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
Right now he is looking up to RGIII russel Wilson they are rookies also lead ing a new offense. Just admit Palmer has been terrible and he trade is a flop at this point.
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No. They arent just leading a new offense, they are black. Therefore you are swinging from their nuts.
Some people hate black QB’s because theyre black. Some people only root for certain QBs cause they are black.
Both parties are equally stupid as fvck.
August 26th, 2012 at 8:45 am
Defense has impressed me…even the DTs for that matter
Being at the game you see the LB play and especially Wheeler….my god is this guy an animal!
Criner is the fkin man…he dropped that one pass but he still made two great catches with his hands for TDs….so much for being too slow lol
DHB made a damn great catch and it was great to see Myers out there again
Streater been real nice this preseason…cant wait until regular season starts
Pryor’s 2nd half excited the entire stadium
Palmer did ok but the INTs have gotta stop
Boy do we ever need Wiz for week 1
Still dont like Knapp and the WCO/ZBS
August 26th, 2012 at 8:46 am
The Raider haters always seperate themselves from the critics during the game.
they are the ones falling apart during the games.
Over the years two trolls come to mind as having mental breakdowns during Raider wins.
August 26th, 2012 at 8:47 am
They delight when Raiders lose and they fall apart when Raider win
August 26th, 2012 at 8:48 am
Raider Riff Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 8:41 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 8:39 am
Raider Riff Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 8:36 am
Mistic is literally rooting against Palmer so he can win a debate.
By default, he is rooting against the Raiders.
I cant believe someones hatred for our QB is more important than our teams success.
Mistic = Non Raider fan.
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Aig did the same thing with Campbell. Wanted to see him fail so Grads (our savior) could start.
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I dont think so. I think AIG is a solid contributor here. Not a broken record. And certainly not a troll. I currently rank AIG as an all-2nd team semi pro. His stances are solid.
And he was dead right about Campbell. The guy was trash.
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Yet the so called trash guy never lost back to back games while here and had a winning record lol…AIG tried his best to dispute it but still cant shake the fact that he had a winning record and didnt lose back to back games……so far JC has been the best QB in Oakland since Gannon…..Palmer has alot to prove still
August 26th, 2012 at 8:49 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 8:42 am
Method To My Madness Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 8:40 am
Lighting Rod – Jerry Rice clone that is mad as he11 that he went
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Fk Jerry Rice and all the frauds who love that btch
Streater is nothing like that fag
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And then we have this guy! #coocooforcocoapuffs
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All Jerry Rice lovers deserve to be shot
August 26th, 2012 at 8:50 am
Who was the Olineman that Dmac ran into on the goal line? Was that Parsons? Whoever it was, he was on skates.
August 26th, 2012 at 8:52 am
The blueprint for a successful game with Carson Palmer was last year’s SD game on thursday night…he passed 20 times and we ran it hella much….I been telling you guys since last year that he has no biz dropping back 35-40 times…you will lose more than you will win
August 26th, 2012 at 8:52 am
And then we have this guy! #coocooforcocoapuffs
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All Jerry Rice lovers deserve to be shot
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OK? #callingnurseratched
August 26th, 2012 at 8:53 am
Morilla Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 8:50 am
Who was the Olineman that Dmac ran into on the goal line? Was that Parsons? Whoever it was, he was on skates.
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Parsons looked terrible man…talk about no push on DTs…I mean he cant blow anyone off the ball…..Wiz better take some Colon/Melky juice and get his ass back on the field now!
August 26th, 2012 at 8:54 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 8:52 am
And then we have this guy! #coocooforcocoapuffs
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All Jerry Rice lovers deserve to be shot
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OK? #callingnurseratched
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Sure MR….your usual cowardice is on display while you still hide and will never show up to a game
August 26th, 2012 at 8:55 am
Keep hearing that Goodson is some sort of special teams ace and that his roster space is secure bcz of this.
I know JFB is a proponent of this line of thought.
I don’t see it.
Has he been used on returns ? Not to my knowledge.
Is he a coverage demon ?
What exactly does he do well ?
Besides fumble.
I really can’t see him on the roster opening day.
Fully expect the Raids to pick up a bigger, more durable back, one that might be capable of gaining some tough yards between the tackles, should such a back become available.
Think Goodson will be out.
August 26th, 2012 at 8:55 am
Sure MR….your usual cowardice is on display while you still hide and will never show up to a game
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My name is Klas, and I am sexy.
August 26th, 2012 at 8:56 am
Soon…hopefully before October DA announces Bergstrom is our LG…..just really sick of watching weak ass Cooper block
August 26th, 2012 at 8:57 am
Another player that has severely under performer is Seymour. He hadn’t lived up to the hype or the price for his services. I’m not quite as hard on him bc he is really old for a d line player I believe it is time to make him a rotation guy. I don’t like the mental breakdowns that has nothing to do with his age. He needs to step up or he & Palmer will both be gone next year.
Does criticism of Seymour make me a raider hater too?
August 26th, 2012 at 8:58 am
The talk of this NFL season is the unprecedented number of rookie and second-year QBs that are going to start for their teams. I mean even Seattle is getting a look at Russell Wilson over Flynn. Russellmania?
People are saying that these teams are willing to gamble and take their lumps now while building their young QBs for the future.
For whatever reason, Pryor, after high school, was one of the top players recruited then, couldn’t he be better than Wilson, Tannehill, Ponder, etc. etc.
Letting Pryor sit behind Palmer makes sense, allegedly, only because Pryor can learn from Palmer, ouch!
Who knows Palmer could be a better QB coach than he ever was as one, by teaching Pryor what not to do.
However, the Raiders could be letting the future go under-developed.
OK, here’s the over-under question:
How many bad throws and losses by Palmer is the Nation going to take before it starts chanting TERRELLE! TERRELLE! TERRELLE!?
August 26th, 2012 at 8:58 am
Bergstrom>Coopster Condo will be gone tomorrow.
August 26th, 2012 at 8:59 am
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 8:55 am
Keep hearing that Goodson is some sort of special teams ace and that his roster space is secure bcz of this.
I know JFB is a proponent of this line of thought.
I don’t see it.
Has he been used on returns ? Not to my knowledge.
Is he a coverage demon ?
What exactly does he do well ?
Besides fumble.
I really can’t see him on the roster opening day.
Fully expect the Raids to pick up a bigger, more durable back, one that might be capable of gaining some tough yards between the tackles, should such a back become available.
Think Goodson will be out.
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Doubt they cut Goodson…but if they do…guess we move on…you acting like Dmac and Jones are a guarantee to even play 12 games this season
I give Goodson a pass for the AZ game…He had no business out there after getting his neck injured….at least he doesnt let pssy injuries like a hamstring keep him out or some foot injury….I like Goodson but hate this blocking scheme for all our RBs
August 26th, 2012 at 8:59 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 8:55 am
Sure MR….your usual cowardice is on display while you still hide and will never show up to a game
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My name is Klas, and I am sexy.
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Gay
August 26th, 2012 at 9:00 am
Klas reminds me of Albert Bigelow and/or Bo Preppie
August 26th, 2012 at 9:00 am
Our defense was impressive, yet again! Corner play was great and Jones looked sharp.
Did anyone see Terry Mcdaniel? lol
I believe in Pryor!
Go Raiders!
August 26th, 2012 at 9:01 am
Raider Riff Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 8:45 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
Right now he is looking up to RGIII russel Wilson they are rookies also lead ing a new offense. Just admit Palmer has been terrible and he trade is a flop at this point.
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No. They arent just leading a new offense, they are black. Therefore you are swinging from their nuts.
Some people hate black QB’s because theyre black. Some people only root for certain QBs cause they are black.
Both parties are equally stupid as fvck.
…….
Why would YOU bring race into it? They like Palmer are learning a new offense, but they are rookies & they are learning new teammates. They are out performing Palmer.
You obviously don’t care about how a guy plays qb, you only notice skin color.
Go away David duke
August 26th, 2012 at 9:02 am
Yo B,…see any of the usual suspects last night?…Dave Ralph?
August 26th, 2012 at 9:03 am
Method To My Madness Says:
Yet the so called trash guy never lost back to back games while here and had a winning record lol…AIG tried his best to dispute it but still cant shake the fact that he had a winning record and didnt lose back to back games……so far JC has been the best QB in Oakland since Gannon…..Palmer has alot to prove still
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I apologize. Trash was a poor word. He wasnt “trash”.
He was consistent. Accurate. And not a distraction for the team. He kept things calm. He was poised when things got dicey late in games. And the team seemed to like him well.
But he had way too slow a release for me. And he had slow feet. His mechanics were good, but they were all in slow motion.
IMO, I knew he was a stopgap. Could we have won a SB with him? Of course. If DMC stays healthy and we ran a modern day defensive scheme, Campbell would have been adequate.
I simply saw the offense spark and come to life with Grads. He anticipated throws better. And with Carson, Campbell isnt even in the same league. Seriously dude, one guy is battling for the #2 spot in Chicago and the other is commanding our offense. they arent even close. CP3 was lights out down the stretch last year in a way Campbell has never been in his career.
August 26th, 2012 at 9:03 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 8:57 am
Another player that has severely under performer is Seymour. He hadn’t lived up to the hype or the price for his services. I’m not quite as hard on him bc he is really old for a d line player I believe it is time to make him a rotation guy. I don’t like the mental breakdowns that has nothing to do with his age. He needs to step up or he & Palmer will both be gone next year.
Does criticism of Seymour make me a raider hater too?
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Nope…..Mistic you arent a Raider hater at all…you are from Oakland unlike many on this blog so the nerve of them to say that BS is pitiful!
I been more supportive of Palmer this summer….he has much to prove because frankly he has done nada in the NFL to justify this notion that he is elite…..I think he can be serviceable as long as we dont have he drop back hella times or have him trying to be a mobile qb lol
Seymour is no good anymore……he is a waste to me….yeah i bet he starts the seasons playing well….but Nov and Dec? Nope he will have excuse that he is hurt
August 26th, 2012 at 9:03 am
Was there any issue at the office?…did you meet Desiree?…she as hot as she sounds?
August 26th, 2012 at 9:04 am
#273.
Method To My Madness Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 8:40 am
Lighting Rod – Jerry Rice clone that is mad as he11 that he went
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Fk Jerry Rice and all the frauds who love that btch
Streater is nothing like that fag
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C’mon man don’t sugar coat it.Tell it like it is.
Morning B.
August 26th, 2012 at 9:04 am
AmysInCharge Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 9:02 am
Yo B,…see any of the usual suspects last night?…Dave Ralph?
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Saw Dave and Mike
August 26th, 2012 at 9:05 am
AmysInCharge Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 9:03 am
Was there any issue at the office?…did you meet Desiree?…she as hot as she sounds?
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Didnt see her but everything was all good
August 26th, 2012 at 9:05 am
F D and M,..screwed me,..done forever. Word.
August 26th, 2012 at 9:06 am
TxRaider210 Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 8:58 am
Bergstrom>Coopster Condo will be gone tomorrow.
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Really? And who is this long snapper we’re getting to replace him?
August 26th, 2012 at 9:06 am
When will you know about the Charger game?…any notice?..or game day only? As far as you getting off in time.
August 26th, 2012 at 9:07 am
Seymour shouldn’t start or practice until we go to the playoffs; let’s keep him fresh until Nov or Dec. lol
August 26th, 2012 at 9:09 am
Bob Marley’s analysis is spot on.
Great job Bob, and keep up the good work.
Bob should be our blog Raiders Analyst.
August 26th, 2012 at 9:11 am
Raider O,..I still see you are still here playing the village idiot,..after all these years…way to go….a few more years of this crap and you will be right up there with the two biggest losers of the world,…old man Kell and mamas boy MR.
August 26th, 2012 at 9:12 am
RaiderDuck Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 9:06 am
TxRaider210 Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 8:58 am
Bergstrom>Coopster Condo will be gone tomorrow.
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Really? And who is this long snapper we’re getting to replace him?
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Whoever they decide to teach the art of long-snapping, just like they taught Condo.
August 26th, 2012 at 9:13 am
I simply saw the offense spark and come to life with Grads. He anticipated throws better. And with Carson, Campbell isnt even in the same league. Seriously dude, one guy is battling for the #2 spot in Chicago and the other is commanding our offense. they arent even close. CP3 was lights out down the stretch last year in a way Campbell has never been in his career.
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Too easy to whip this argument as i did with AIG lol
Grads had one game where he did what you said he did and then what? More TO’s than TD’s! He went 1-3 man! The team supported JC more than Grad and he wasnt accurate ever! JC had 3 different games in 2010 where the offense had over 500 yards…Grads will never do that in his sorry ass career….JC never lost back to back games and it was obvious that is JC started the last 32 games the Raiders win AFC West both years…but now he is gone and in Chitown…he shoulda slid correctly
Palmer commanding our offense? LOL since when? He arguing on sidelines with Knapp and throwing INTs still…you guys hype him up so much and he still hasnt done schit in his career…now that can surely change this year as he has alot of talent around him….yes JC and CP are in same league…THE NFL…where neither has won schit…you got it?
CP was lights out? Or did the lights get turned out? Raiders were 7-4 leading afc west and ended up 8-8 with a loss at home to SD…so exactly tell me what did Palmer do that was so light outs in those last 5 games except turnovers and losses? You guys kill me on here
August 26th, 2012 at 9:14 am
Everyone knows Klas works at the Ostersund library, probably doesn’t get paid a whole lot, but hey I defend the Alamo with a 40 ounce in hand for free:)
August 26th, 2012 at 9:14 am
AmysInCharge Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 9:05 am
F D and M,..screwed me,..done forever. Word.
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Damn…these are the breaks
August 26th, 2012 at 9:15 am
MiamiRaider78 Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 9:07 am
Seymour shouldn’t start or practice until we go to the playoffs; let’s keep him fresh until Nov or Dec. lol
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He shouldn’t even show up for the games until then.
August 26th, 2012 at 9:15 am
B I have been accusing Mystic of being MR…his delivery
has much in common.If I am wrong then please let me know.
I do not live in Oakland…but Richmond next to the refinery.
Have a little trouble with folks that attack the team.
August 26th, 2012 at 9:15 am
AmysInCharge Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 9:06 am
When will you know about the Charger game?…any notice?..or game day only? As far as you getting off in time.
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Man I wont know maybe until this Friday
August 26th, 2012 at 9:17 am
Ok bro, hope we can work it out,..big game.
August 26th, 2012 at 9:17 am
Method To My Madness Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 9:13 am
I simply saw the offense spark and come to life with Grads. He anticipated throws better. And with Carson, Campbell isnt even in the same league. Seriously dude, one guy is battling for the #2 spot in Chicago and the other is commanding our offense. they arent even close. CP3 was lights out down the stretch last year in a way Campbell has never been in his career.
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Too easy to whip this argument as i did with AIG lol
Grads had one game where he did what you said he did and then what? More TO’s than TD’s! He went 1-3 man! The team supported JC more than Grad and he wasnt accurate ever! JC had 3 different games in 2010 where the offense had over 500 yards…Grads will never do that in his sorry ass career….JC never lost back to back games and it was obvious that is JC started the last 32 games the Raiders win AFC West both years…but now he is gone and in Chitown…he shoulda slid correctly
Palmer commanding our offense? LOL since when? He arguing on sidelines with Knapp and throwing INTs still…you guys hype him up so much and he still hasnt done schit in his career…now that can surely change this year as he has alot of talent around him….yes JC and CP are in same league…THE NFL…where neither has won schit…you got it?
CP was lights out? Or did the lights get turned out? Raiders were 7-4 leading afc west and ended up 8-8 with a loss at home to SD…so exactly tell me what did Palmer do that was so light outs in those last 5 games except turnovers and losses? You guys kill me on here
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Chuck B cost us our playoffs spot last year. Not Palmer. To even suggest our losing down the stretch was Palmers fault costs you any credibility right there.
And when Al Saunders said, “This is what a real QB looks like” I suppose he wasnt taking a huge shot at Campbell? Al Saunders knows more about football than you will ever pretend to know.
Case closed.
August 26th, 2012 at 9:17 am
I know this is nitpicking, but DHB’s antics after his catch last night has to stop.
Cat was celebrating like he just won the SB.
I get that you’re hyped that you made a play.
Still, you’re a pro. Get back to the fkng huddle and be ready to do it again.
DA should nip that crap in the bud.
August 26th, 2012 at 9:19 am
Twinkle Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 9:15 am
B I have been accusing Mystic of being MR…his delivery
has much in common.If I am wrong then please let me know.
I do not live in Oakland…but Richmond next to the refinery.
Have a little trouble with folks that attack the team.
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He not MR at all….next to refinery? Aw man that was rough schit
He attacks Palmer….I ripped Palmer worse than he did last season…I honestly think USC qbs suck but as Dell told me lets give him a chance with full offseason so I am….think he can help us win but he isnt an elite QB at all…Regressing? Naw man i think he is doing what he has always done..He is a turnover machine and this is not to be disputed…for us to win this season he must protect ball better…I dont care if it is someone else’s fault…YOU GET ALL THE BIG BUCKS YOU ARE THE LEADER….SO LEAD US!
August 26th, 2012 at 9:19 am
“Defense has impressed me…even the DTs for that matter
Being at the game you see the LB play and especially Wheeler….my god is this guy an animal!
Criner is the fkin man…he dropped that one pass but he still made two great catches with his hands for TDs….so much for being too slow lol
DHB made a damn great catch and it was great to see Myers out there again
Streater been real nice this preseason…cant wait until regular season starts
Pryor’s 2nd half excited the entire stadium
Palmer did ok but the INTs have gotta stop
Boy do we ever need Wiz for week 1
Still dont like Knapp and the WCO/ZBS”
B you hit the nail on the head, on every point that is exactly what I saw yesterday too, I knew Meyers was capable of being the guy for us at TE.
Palmer was more comfortable in Hue offense which is now “Obvious”
August 26th, 2012 at 9:21 am
TxRaider210 Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 9:12 am
RaiderDuck Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 9:06 am
TxRaider210 Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 8:58 am
Bergstrom>Coopster Condo will be gone tomorrow.
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Really? And who is this long snapper we’re getting to replace him?
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Whoever they decide to teach the art of long-snapping, just like they taught Condo.
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If you’re going to teach someone to long-snap, you start during OTAs at the latest. Nobody but Condo has snapped (AFAIK), so he’ll be our snapper for this year. Never could figure out the Condo-hate on this board.
August 26th, 2012 at 9:21 am
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 9:17 am
I know this is nitpicking, but DHB’s antics after his catch last night has to stop.
Cat was celebrating like he just won the SB.
I get that you’re hyped that you made a play.
Still, you’re a pro. Get back to the fkng huddle and be ready to do it again.
DA should nip that crap in the bud.
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Lock him up in a small room with a film projector that shows nothing but Barry Sanders and Bo Jackson
scoring.Ought to get the job done.
August 26th, 2012 at 9:22 am
The best thing Palmer can do is learn when to throw it away, even a grounding call is better than a pick.
August 26th, 2012 at 9:22 am
AmysInCharge Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 9:11 am
Raider O,..I still see you are still here playing the village idiot,..after all these years…way to go….a few more years of this crap and you will be right up there with the two biggest losers of the world,…old man Kell and mamas boy MR.
$$$$$$$$$$$
Pill popper,
Still walking poodles on the beach in you short shorts?
August 26th, 2012 at 9:23 am
Duck
It’s not Condo hate man, he does his snapping job well, but isn’t he highly over-paid??
August 26th, 2012 at 9:24 am
Not sure why all the Palmer hate. But then I think…this is the same fan base that wanted Gannon gone so they could have Kerry f-ing Collins. Give me a break. Carson Palmer IS in the top,half of the abs in the league and dude was’t “lackluster” last night. He was solid. He is solid. Ad he will be solid. Think different? U were probly the same people fired up about art shell going 4 and 1 in the preseason despite the issues….smh
August 26th, 2012 at 9:25 am
Lightning=Dmac
Flash=Jones
We need Thunder in the backfield, make it the perfect storm.
August 26th, 2012 at 9:26 am
Raider Riff Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 9:17 am
Method To My Madness Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 9:13 am
I simply saw the offense spark and come to life with Grads. He anticipated throws better. And with Carson, Campbell isnt even in the same league. Seriously dude, one guy is battling for the #2 spot in Chicago and the other is commanding our offense. they arent even close. CP3 was lights out down the stretch last year in a way Campbell has never been in his career.
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Too easy to whip this argument as i did with AIG lol
Grads had one game where he did what you said he did and then what? More TO’s than TD’s! He went 1-3 man! The team supported JC more than Grad and he wasnt accurate ever! JC had 3 different games in 2010 where the offense had over 500 yards…Grads will never do that in his sorry ass career….JC never lost back to back games and it was obvious that is JC started the last 32 games the Raiders win AFC West both years…but now he is gone and in Chitown…he shoulda slid correctly
Palmer commanding our offense? LOL since when? He arguing on sidelines with Knapp and throwing INTs still…you guys hype him up so much and he still hasnt done schit in his career…now that can surely change this year as he has alot of talent around him….yes JC and CP are in same league…THE NFL…where neither has won schit…you got it?
CP was lights out? Or did the lights get turned out? Raiders were 7-4 leading afc west and ended up 8-8 with a loss at home to SD…so exactly tell me what did Palmer do that was so light outs in those last 5 games except turnovers and losses? You guys kill me on here
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Chuck B cost us our playoffs spot last year. Not Palmer. To even suggest our losing down the stretch was Palmers fault costs you any credibility right there.
And when Al Saunders said, “This is what a real QB looks like” I suppose he wasnt taking a huge shot at Campbell? Al Saunders knows more about football than you will ever pretend to know.
Case closed.
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haha 49ER RIFF….name the position that gets Wins and Losses attached to their line? THE QB!….Bresnahan was blame for Miami game? GB game? Yeah Palmer lit it up then….how bad was Bresnahan’s defense week 16 at KC?
I was at the week 17 game you dumb schit and Palmer gained alot of stats but when it was time to score TDs he didnt do enough if it
Dont tell me schit about credibility you punk when you giving excuses for a guy who quit on a team who has never won schit in this league
So what Saunders said that? Easy to look great when your teammates cant hit ya….Palmer has 17 career pick 6’s! Wonder what Saunders will say about that? Yeah Saunders knows more than me but does that mean he cant be wrong? Thanks you moronic fool
August 26th, 2012 at 9:26 am
TxRaider210 Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 9:23 am
Duck
It’s not Condo hate man, he does his snapping job well, but isn’t he highly over-paid??
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Probably, for what he does. But a decent long-snapper can be hard to find. No doubt in the next year or two Reggie will draft an OL who can long-snap also, and that’ll be it for Condo. Until then, we’ve got a good snapper, a pretty good kicker (in spite of his screwup last night), and the best punter in NFL history. And it’s a good thing, because Hoffman’s special teams look like a hot mess otherwise.
August 26th, 2012 at 9:26 am
Duck…..Condo went to the pro bowl.As did Seymour.
As did Jano and Lechler.We’ve got the first two down.I imagine the kickers will be on the to do list as soon as they miss.
August 26th, 2012 at 9:26 am
“The blueprint for a successful game with Carson Palmer was last year’s SD game on thursday night…he passed 20 times and we ran it hella much….I been telling you guys since last year that he has no biz dropping back 35-40 times…you will lose more than you will win
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This is what I keep on telling people this is where Palmer looked comfortable in that game in the no huddle, Hue’s offense was better suited for Palmer, he looks lost out there in Knapps offense.
August 26th, 2012 at 9:26 am
Raider Guy Says:
this is the same fan base that wanted Gannon gone so they could have Kerry f-ing Collins.
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Yep. My older brother was one of those guys. I will never let him hear the end of it.
August 26th, 2012 at 9:28 am
Raider Riff Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 9:26 am
Raider Guy Says:
this is the same fan base that wanted Gannon gone so they could have Kerry f-ing Collins.
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Yep. My older brother was one of those guys. I will never let him hear the end of it.
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To be fair, we’re hardly the only fanbase to have done this. Remember how the Giants chased Phil Simms into early retirement so they could hand the job to Dave Brown?
August 26th, 2012 at 9:29 am
666….of course Palmer is suited for hue’s offense than he is in this one….Knapp’s job to build a scheme around his QBs skills…as a guy who isnt a big Palmer fan…I think he is in a bad position unless Knapp stops being stubborn….let’s pray they playing possum and gonna unleash hell on SD
August 26th, 2012 at 9:29 am
RaiderDuck Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 9:26 am
TxRaider210 Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 9:23 am
Duck
It’s not Condo hate man, he does his snapping job well, but isn’t he highly over-paid??
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Probably, for what he does. But a decent long-snapper can be hard to find. No doubt in the next year or two Reggie will draft an OL who can long-snap also, and that’ll be it for Condo. Until then, we’ve got a good snapper, a pretty good kicker (in spite of his screwup last night), and the best punter in NFL history. And it’s a good thing, because Hoffman’s special teams look like a hot mess otherwise.
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Yeah man, I don’t proclaim to know the art of long-snapping at all, I wonder how hard it is for a player to master the snap?idk Special teams needs work for sure.
August 26th, 2012 at 9:29 am
Palmer will end up tossing 15-17 int’s, hopefully he can counter it with 27-29 TD’s.
August 26th, 2012 at 9:31 am
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 9:17 am
I know this is nitpicking, but DHB’s antics after his catch last night has to stop.
Cat was celebrating like he just won the SB.
I get that you’re hyped that you made a play.
Still, you’re a pro. Get back to the fkng huddle and be ready to do it again.
DA should nip that crap in the bud.
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See when Criner scored? Acted like he has been there before
All the dancing and celebrating needs to stop…we havent been a good team in 10 years and aint won a title in almost 30….DHB needs to catch ball and take his ass to the sideline or back to the huddle
August 26th, 2012 at 9:31 am
Beautiful stat comparison raider duck 224
August 26th, 2012 at 9:32 am
Raider guy Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 9:24 am
Not sure why all the Palmer hate. But then I think…this is the same fan base that wanted Gannon gone so they could have Kerry f-ing Collins. Give me a break. Carson Palmer IS in the top,half of the abs in the league and dude was’t “lackluster” last night. He was solid. He is solid. Ad he will be solid. Think different? U were probly the same people fired up about art shell going 4 and 1 in the preseason despite the issues….smh
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“Not sure why all the Palmer hate”????? The dude has thrown 40 picks in his last 28 starts! Take the blinders off and put the Koolaid down man! Time to get concerned.
August 26th, 2012 at 9:32 am
Anyhow….nice Sunday….no A’s today but we rolling still 69-57 with about 36 more games to go….this will be exciting in Oakland
Oh yeah downtown rally tomorrow in Oakland….wish I didnt have to go to the job site or id be down there
August 26th, 2012 at 9:33 am
CODE BLACK…..outro
August 26th, 2012 at 9:33 am
In the 4th quarter vs 3rd stringers,.3-5 is all it takes to proclaim Pryor a legit NFL qb. Lol.l
These guys would have traded the house for rob Johnson and Kevin Kolb.
August 26th, 2012 at 9:34 am
RaiderDuck Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 9:28 am
Raider Riff Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 9:26 am
Raider Guy Says:
this is the same fan base that wanted Gannon gone so they could have Kerry f-ing Collins.
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Yep. My older brother was one of those guys. I will never let him hear the end of it.
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To be fair, we’re hardly the only fanbase to have done this. Remember how the Giants chased Phil Simms into early retirement so they could hand the job to Dave Brown?
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True true true. But nobody is worse than the Giants fan base when it comes to this. I go over to an in-laws house to watch most games. He’s a die hard New Yorker.
I cant even count the number of times he’s wanted to trade Eli Manning. Even after the first SuperBowl.
Some people wouldnt know a QB if they were married to one (see Method to Madness for an example)
August 26th, 2012 at 9:36 am
DJ Johnny Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 7:51 am
I think winning that game was good for the psyche of the team
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Too bad it wasn’t good for the idiots on this blogs psyche. Sheesh I thought Palmer did ok. The only really bad play was the INT and the back was being held. Not a good decision for sure. Overall I liked what this team showed. special teams is horrendous
August 26th, 2012 at 9:36 am
Anyone else noticed Gio saved two near TD’s with his speed and effort, dude was ballin’.
August 26th, 2012 at 9:36 am
All Pryor has to do is show me some gradual progress, since we all know he will not be the starting QB anytime soon. I can wait.
August 26th, 2012 at 9:36 am
notice*
August 26th, 2012 at 9:38 am
666 Knapps o is big run heavy plan. Carson’s sd game is exactly how I think we are going to be playing the majority of our games this year…both picks last night, mcgee’s last attempt as a raider and and the screen where the d lineman makes a great play were not as bonehead as people would have you believe. More important than Carson is Dmac. Look how the texans did after their one and two went down…because foster is the centerpiece…
August 26th, 2012 at 9:39 am
And to recap…Gannon won as many SB’s as Marinovich.
On the second Hut….James Jett was already out of range.
Five picks in a SB and your great?He had all the the stats in the world but the best one was ….he looked good in red.You can listen to him daily telling all that CP is over the hill and that the RAIDERS are toast.
I don’t believe Mr Davis was in the habit of throwing
out QB’s who were loyal RAIDERS and any good.Neither of which Gannon was.And that is just my opinion.
August 26th, 2012 at 9:40 am
Offense & spteams needs work. But the team seems to be imprivoving.. it was a nice splash of kool aid.
August 26th, 2012 at 9:41 am
Pryors ceiling is s decent back up QB. There’s a reason he struggles daily in practice when he’s not facing the terribly depleted Lions #7 cb.
Don’t ignore the pick he threw either. But I’m happy he had a non-terrible day.
August 26th, 2012 at 9:41 am
No single player has ever won a SuperBowl so whats your point Twinkie?
August 26th, 2012 at 9:41 am
TxRaider210 Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 9:36 am
Anyone else noticed Gio saved two near TD’s with his speed and effort, dude was ballin’.
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Damn right he was.Did he get another pick or were we penalized on that play?
August 26th, 2012 at 9:43 am
I wouldn’t name Pryor the starter just yet from last nights performance. But if this kid can learn as much as TJ Yates did last year we are in good hands for a loooong time.
Dennis Allen has this thing going just like the Donks of last year. He was in control of the def side of the ball and Tebow led the offense. I gotta think that the guys coaching our QBs are better than what they have in Dungver. Plus we have more offensive talent.
We finally have a team that the NFL will fear again.
August 26th, 2012 at 9:44 am
Besides Wheeler and Houston on D, Gio stood out to me on a few plays. Chased down the runner on a would be kick-off return when Jano got hurt, also made a nice tackle on a blown coverage with the WR in tons of space.
August 26th, 2012 at 9:45 am
Knowledgeable football fans will be 1000 times more excited about our defense becoming legit than what our third string quarterback did with 5 throws against the NFL’s absolute worst defensive back unit’s 3rd stringers.
August 26th, 2012 at 9:46 am
Anyone think Seymour is better suited to come off of the bench in the DT rotation?
August 26th, 2012 at 9:46 am
Riff you know as well as I that it is SB’s that define a QB’s legacy.Brady will always be remembered.Who the hell is Jim Kelly?Brady a better QB than Kelly?Hell no…but it is what it is.
August 26th, 2012 at 9:49 am
Billy Cundiff gets the axe in Baltimore…
August 26th, 2012 at 9:50 am
MiamiRaider78 Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 9:46 am
Anyone think Seymour is better suited to come off of the bench in the DT rotation?
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I think so, but would also want him to earn that paycheck.
August 26th, 2012 at 9:51 am
Klas got #1 pick in his other fantasy draft. Who should he take?
August 26th, 2012 at 9:52 am
288.RAIDERMAN99 Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 8:55 am
Keep hearing that Goodson is some sort of special teams ace and that his roster space is secure bcz of this.
I know JFB is a proponent of this line of thought.
I don’t see it.
Has he been used on returns ? Not to my knowledge.
Is he a coverage demon ?
What exactly does he do well ?
Besides fumble.
I really can’t see him on the roster opening day.
Fully expect the Raids to pick up a bigger, more durable back, one that might be capable of gaining some tough yards between the tackles, should such a back become available.
Think Goodson will be out.
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The only Special Teams Ace we need is a guy standing near the KR and yelling profusely at him to take a knee after he catches the ball.
Our return avg will increase 9 yds per kickoff on that alone.
August 26th, 2012 at 9:52 am
Klas
Aaron Rodgers
August 26th, 2012 at 9:54 am
Brady is a better qb than kelly was
August 26th, 2012 at 9:54 am
Ok Tx. Last year I took Rodgers and started out 0-4. I think I may take him though, and try and get DMac with 2nd pick.
August 26th, 2012 at 9:55 am
Klas
You could also take Brady or Brees, DMC is a good pick if still available.
August 26th, 2012 at 9:55 am
We were returning deep kicks from the endzone just for practice.. we wont do that in games.
August 26th, 2012 at 9:56 am
“666 Knapps o is big run heavy plan. Carson’s sd game is exactly how I think we are going to be playing the majority of our games this year…both picks last night, mcgee’s last attempt as a raider and and the screen where the d lineman makes a great play were not as bonehead as people would have you believe. More important than Carson is Dmac. Look how the texans did after their one and two went down…because foster is the centerpiece…”
Thanks, that’s a good way to look at it.
August 26th, 2012 at 9:56 am
Klas
You should try the one and only Raider D this year, I am in my draft next week.
August 26th, 2012 at 9:57 am
Maybe I will draft all Raiders.
August 26th, 2012 at 9:57 am
321.RAIDERMAN99 Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 9:17 am
I know this is nitpicking, but DHB’s antics after his catch last night has to stop.
Cat was celebrating like he just won the SB.
I get that you’re hyped that you made a play.
Still, you’re a pro. Get back to the fkng huddle and be ready to do it again.
DA should nip that crap in the bud.
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I was thinking the same thing. But dude gets a pass IMO because he dropped so many balls his first 2 yrs. If that keeps him catching more balls so be it.
August 26th, 2012 at 9:58 am
We still need another rb. 3 injury prone guys is too risky.
August 26th, 2012 at 9:59 am
August 26th, 2012 at 9:17 am
I know this is nitpicking, but DHB’s antics after his catch last night has to stop.
Cat was celebrating like he just won the SB.
I get that you’re hyped that you made a play.
Still, you’re a pro. Get back to the fkng huddle and be ready to do it again.
DA should nip that crap in the bud.
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Co-Signed. I don’t see DA letting that go. act like you been there before. Show some humility it’s good for your Karma
August 26th, 2012 at 9:59 am
I take it most of the damage was done by Pryor and Criner last nite? Other than that it was dink & dunk?
August 26th, 2012 at 10:00 am
Am I the only one who thinks Criner is a bigger deal than Streater? No disrespect to Streater, he’s got great hands and can ball, but Criner seems to have that something special. I think he’s a bigger threat to score always.
August 26th, 2012 at 10:00 am
Twinkle Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 9:46 am
Riff you know as well as I that it is SB’s that define a QB’s legacy.Brady will always be remembered.Who the hell is Jim Kelly?Brady a better QB than Kelly?Hell no…but it is what it is.
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I dont agree that SB’s define any players legacy.
Eric Dickerson was no less a great RB for never winning one.
And neither was Dan Marino.
Elway was great before a defense and running game showed up and then he got his two rings.
If youre one of those people who thought higher of Elway after the rings, then you dont know much. He was always great. I hate the guy with a passion but the truth is, he was one of the best ever long before he got the rings.
WCO, Zone running game, and dink and dunk and all of a sudden they win back to back.
Yet we stayed stuck in our 70s offense and defense until Gruden and alleged “noodle” showed up.
Now we got what seems to be a good coach, a modern O and D scheme, and a QB that has made All Pro teams and some arent happy because were not doing it in the asthetic fashion they prefer. Its insanity.
Keep ignoring the fact that Callahan changed our gameplan two days before the SB and that our Pro Bowl center freaked out and left. Ignoring those simple facts really makes your case strong.
August 26th, 2012 at 10:00 am
RaiderDebo Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 9:32 am
Raider guy Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 9:24 am
Not sure why all the Palmer hate. But then I think…this is the same fan base that wanted Gannon gone so they could have Kerry f-ing Collins. Give me a break. Carson Palmer IS in the top,half of the abs in the league and dude was’t “lackluster” last night. He was solid. He is solid. Ad he will be solid. Think different? U were probly the same people fired up about art shell going 4 and 1 in the preseason despite the issues….smh
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“Not sure why all the Palmer hate”????? The dude has thrown 40 picks in his last 28 starts! Take the blinders off and put the Koolaid down man! Time to get concerned.
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STAT OF THE CENTURY
August 26th, 2012 at 10:02 am
Palmer had at least two easy passes dropped. One was the int. to McGee, but the “haters” have no interest in being fair, they have a predisposed hatred for the guy and no interest seeing him succeed.
I can picture a few of the posters here dilligently taking notes on every error Palmer makes…however small, and even plays where it isn’t his fault they say “well EVERY int. counts it doesn’t matter how it happened”.
More interested in backing up their hate than the team succeeding.
August 26th, 2012 at 10:02 am
363
In attempt to preserve him more throughout the season, I think it would be ideal, especially if we’re in the playoff race. I agree though, big paycheck to be coming off the bench…
Special Teams playing awful will offset our defense in giving favorable field position to our opponents. Got to clean that up, wouldn’t want that being the reason we lose a game.
August 26th, 2012 at 10:03 am
Interested to see what our ST’s look like with guys from the 53 man roster…
Reggie has added some nice players to the mix,looking for a couple more during the cut down phase…
August 26th, 2012 at 10:05 am
Johnny
Good post, no kidding man, Palmer won’t get credit for helping drive the team down field since it wasn’t a TD throw.
August 26th, 2012 at 10:05 am
504 I have to think the lick from Wheeler had a lingering effect.Reg gave a prospect (Campbell) for him and he wouldn’t do that unless Campbell had to go or he saw something in the dude.He fumbled over there so why would Reg think a change of scenery was going to make him locate the handle.Goodson did say his shoulder had no strength and that kind of admission is like painting a target on your A$$.
Went from ‘Wheeler that dude from Indy’ too ‘Hullo Mr
Wheeler’.
August 26th, 2012 at 10:05 am
It was good to see Pryor showcase some of his talents last nite but he still has awhile to go. I’ve always been a Pryor Fan but his footwork has always been an issue. I do believe he can fix that and with patience he could be our starting QB of the future…
August 26th, 2012 at 10:08 am
Superb article Steve! I thank You and Jer for your outstanding articles. I am so Happy for TP6 and Proud of him. I could not stop cheering for TP6 last night….Man the action was phenomenal. As I said last night…we don’t know what the future may hold…TP6 may have to step in for CP3 in the regular season…Who knows? Remains to be seen. I am cheering for You…Terrelle Pryor!
August 26th, 2012 at 10:08 am
Glad tp had a confidense building game.. still has lots of work to do though. Good project player.
August 26th, 2012 at 10:09 am
In Carson Palmer’s last 26 Regular season starts, he has 39 TD’s and 36 INT’s. Room for improvement for sure, but still not a horrible as some make it seem.
August 26th, 2012 at 10:09 am
MiamiRaider78.
Anyone think Seymour is better suited to come off of the bench in the DT rotation?.
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I think Seymour is in for his best season as a Raider in 2012 and should remain a starter.
Not only do we have an improved scheme that should lessen his snaps and increase his productivity but he knows he won’t back next year with that salary.
Wether the Raiders bring him back or not depends on his willingness to once again re-negotiate his deal and on how far this team goes, if Rich leads this Defense into the playoffs we might want to bring him back for another run.
Anyway, Rich needs to have a big year in order to secure one final contract with us or with someone else and money is the best motivator, even for a consumate Pro like him.
August 26th, 2012 at 10:12 am
But Dr. Jones running outside for big gains sure opened up tp running the other way.. it was alot like cj &vy a few yrs back..
August 26th, 2012 at 10:13 am
NEW!~ 08-25-12: ROLLING IN THE DEEP
Oakland shows off its brawn and its deep bench with a home town win over Detroit.
http://www.raidernationstation.com/2012_pre_season
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Great game but worried a lil bout Palmer and the O line. Need depth at CB and another RB. Goodson may not even make the team.
August 26th, 2012 at 10:17 am
It’s a shame….some of our Raiders fans still want to talk TP6 down. Build the young Man up….it’s not to late to build the young Man up. We never really gave TP6 a chance to prove himself. We all know he’s a work in progress(even TP knows that) but he’s on the upper side of a work in progress and that’s a huge difference.
August 26th, 2012 at 10:21 am
If I see one more interview with TP6 chewing gum my head is gonna explode… Weird Pet Peeve
August 26th, 2012 at 10:21 am
Watching the replay of the game right now and seeing more things on TV that I did not see yesterday.
Palmer had a good first series.
Wheeler is better then Wimbly thus far
August 26th, 2012 at 10:22 am
I mistakenly thought the talk here today was gonna be more about unleashing a can of Silver and Black whoop azz on a solid Detroit team than ripping on Palmer.
Of course there’s stuff to work on but let’s look at the positives coming from that game.
Schwartz wanted that game last night and we took it too him…leaving a bunch of injured Lions in the wake.
August 26th, 2012 at 10:22 am
As far as the DL, I love the mixture of young vets and older players we have heading to 2012 but the lack of a true pass-rusher at RDE to spell Shaughnessy on obvious passing downs is somewhat concerning, hopefully the blitz will help.
But the future of the DL is already here and by 2013 I’d like to see Shaughnessy switching to LDE where he would dominate Right Tackles, then Kelly-Houston-Bryant-Biukidi rotating at DT (provided Seymour leves) and a pass-rusher starting at RDE acquired via Free Agency or the Draft.
August 26th, 2012 at 10:22 am
Pryor is built like a super hero. Best quote from his post game interview-
“I hate failing”
Love that attitude, it will benefit him in the long run.
August 26th, 2012 at 10:23 am
I havent seen anybody bashing tp today.
August 26th, 2012 at 10:24 am
You’re right Goldie!
TP has the one thing that many talented guys never achieve…a WORK ETHIC!
didn’t know until last night, Kid missed his Dad’s Funeral Service to get into camp on time…
Has followed CP’s lead and continues to work and become a better player.
What we saw last night was special and well deserved.
August 26th, 2012 at 10:26 am
Riff OK then I’m wrong.You don’t realize the fact that SB’s define a QB’s legacy.IMO you are right on when you mentioned the loss of Barrett Robins our all everything Center doomed the team right out of the gate.The only guy to touch the ball on every offensive down suddenly
leaves the team(or was taken out).You can point the finger at Callahan all you like but the whole world
knows that as a football coach he’d make a good plumber.
Better legacy definition for Gannon and Upchuck would be the Championship game with Baltimore.Very similar D to Tampa’s only 500 times as nasty.
The only way we could beat that D was by punting on 1st down and waiting for Dilfer to turn it over and score on Defense.
The worst nightmare for any RAIDER fan was seeing Shannon Sharpe to any thing but hang himself.
That is Romo’s legacy….no more of that smile.
August 26th, 2012 at 10:26 am
DJ.
There’s only 2 or 3 people ripping on Palmer and a ton of guys standing up for CP, but the Palmer haters manage to stir the conversation their way every time, why keep arguing with them?.
August 26th, 2012 at 10:28 am
395. Kind of hard to compare wimbley & wheeler.. ones a speed rush 4-3 end and ones a wlb…
August 26th, 2012 at 10:29 am
It IS possible to be a Palmer fan AND a Pryor fan. Seeing as they are both Raiders it would make sense.
How about Palmer on goal line situations?
One thing that frustrates me is how dang difficult it is for us to get into the endzone from the one.
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.
I don’t see how continuing to force the issue w/ McFadden at the goal line makes sense. He doesn’t need to get beat up like that, plus the fact it isn’t working.
August 26th, 2012 at 10:29 am
I meant to say how about using Pryor at the goal line?
August 26th, 2012 at 10:29 am
Lets face it. We have the type of fanbase that will find complaint the day after DA, Reggie, and Palmer hoist the Lombardi.
Some guys just have other things going on in their lives outside of football that carries over into this blog.
August 26th, 2012 at 10:30 am
Atta baby dj Johnny. Palmer himself estimated tha he knew less than half the playbook last year and still threw for almost 3000 yards in 8 games. I am not making the case that Palmer is going to be Tom ” it was a fumble” Brady or neck manning, but he will and is good enough for us to win with. And good enoug to be a piece of the team that can be very good. Our o is solid. Solid RB, solid o line, solid receivers, solid qb…that is what makes a good team…not just one big piece…let’s see how neck does in Denver this year…sure seems that is a one big piece offense.
August 26th, 2012 at 10:32 am
TP is NOT ready for prime time BUT he made giant strides last night. A week ago I said NO WAY TP ever becomes an NFL starting QB. Last night he took a big step at dispelling that thought. He still has a long way to go and a lot to learn but he’s demonstrated an excellent work ethic & willingness to learn. I can’t think of a better mentor for him than CP3. If he understudies under CP3 for the next 3 years he may turn out to be all he can be. Let’s NOT rush his development, Let him grow & learn. He needs to perfect his accuracy and touch. That doesn’t happen over night but rather over time. His future took some big positive steps last night – good for him.
August 26th, 2012 at 10:32 am
Gotta love watching some zone & blitzing after yrs of lame..
August 26th, 2012 at 10:33 am
Bob Marley Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 10:26 am
DJ.
There’s only 2 or 3 people ripping on Palmer and a ton of guys standing up for CP, but the Palmer haters manage to stir the conversation their way every time, why keep arguing with them?.
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You speaketh words of wisdom Bob. Palmer is our QB, if they hate that fact so much then they are free to go root for another team.
I wish they would and quit trying to be such major pains and buzzkills.
They are like the annoying guys who show up at a gathering and everybody goes ‘Oh crap…HE’S here?”
August 26th, 2012 at 10:34 am
Terelle Pryor = Bo Jackson.
I have not seen anyone run with such speed and power since Bo Jackson.
August 26th, 2012 at 10:36 am
I dont think tp got better last nite. I think he just showed what he can do.. he is still extremely inconsistant.. he just has to keep working.
August 26th, 2012 at 10:37 am
For the record, I think Wimbley was not used properly here and he’s not being used properly with the Titans, he should not be limited to play with his hand down at DE on every pass-rushing situation, he lacks the moves to consistently get around OT’s, but he’s fast and strong, he should be moved around prior to the snap looking for a mismatch, get him on a TE, have him rush up the middle into an unsuspecting and slower Guard, make people find him and he’ll give you more production, but that’s the Titans problem now.
August 26th, 2012 at 10:38 am
Dj 410…rad
August 26th, 2012 at 10:38 am
VanHeathen30 Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 10:24 am
You’re right Goldie!
TP has the one thing that many talented guys never achieve…a WORK ETHIC!
didn’t know until last night, Kid missed his Dad’s Funeral Service to get into camp on time…
Has followed CP’s lead and continues to work and become a better player.
What we saw last night was special and well deserved.
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I agree with you 100% Van and I am a huge Palmer fan but I think we need to build TP up because he is our future QB…The Man hates to fail.
August 26th, 2012 at 10:39 am
504 Raider Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 10:29 am
Lets face it. We have the type of fanbase that will find complaint the day after DA, Reggie, and Palmer hoist the Lombardi.
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Hella funny..Sad but true.
I will say one thing in our defense (our = fanbase)
Most of those that find complaint are in here.
August 26th, 2012 at 10:41 am
Titans love their new problem.. wish we still had cam. But not at the pay he wanted.
August 26th, 2012 at 10:41 am
Raider guy Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 10:30 am
Atta baby dj Johnny. Palmer himself estimated tha he knew less than half the playbook last year and still threw for almost 3000 yards in 8 games. I am not making the case that Palmer is going to be Tom ” it was a fumble” Brady or neck manning, but he will and is good enough for us to win with. And good enoug to be a piece of the team that can be very good. Our o is solid. Solid RB, solid o line, solid receivers, solid qb…that is what makes a good team…not just one big piece…let’s see how neck does in Denver this year…sure seems that is a one big piece offense.
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Word!!!
August 26th, 2012 at 10:44 am
I think the issue with some fans is that we are all so accustomed to our poor play and unfavorable game outcomes of the last 8 or 9 yrs, that we feed too much into our lows and don’t take with a grain of salt, our highs. It’s only preseason and we have a coaching staff that will get our team to play consistent, disciplined and intelligent football. Progress takes time and our defense is ahead of schedule, offense is getting there and both are getting acclimated to new schemes..ST, not sure what’s going on.
You’re only as good as your last game.
Just my take.
August 26th, 2012 at 10:46 am
Twinkle,
Here’s the post you’ll see when that happens:
“Enjoy your SB “victory’. Raids got lucky with what turned out to be an easy schedule on an off year for the league. While you losers are toasting your SB “Champions” keep in mind that Palmer is DONE. He’ll never have another yr. like this and if u think you’re gonna win two in a row with that loser you’re drinking way too much kool aid”.
August 26th, 2012 at 10:46 am
Glad the discargers looks like shlt.. we need a fast start for once.
August 26th, 2012 at 10:47 am
CP3 must curtail his INTs or we are in trouble. I’ve said before I don’t know who is worst Palmer or Romo when it comes to throwing INTs. Well big ears Romo threw 0 INTs last night. Palmer has what it takes to be an elite QB but throwing too many INTs will keep the Raiders fans on the edge wondering what will happen next. CP3 has all the weapons in the world and should not be throwing sooo many INTs.
August 26th, 2012 at 10:49 am
Well, i guess its time to get high & play some ps3.. yay sunday!
August 26th, 2012 at 10:50 am
Mark, you play FIFA 12? I’m about to do the same!
JAli7878 is my PS3 handle, hit me up.
August 26th, 2012 at 10:51 am
419,
Good points Miami. I like to bask a little bit in the good times as they have not happened nearly as much as i’d like over the last 9-10 yrs.
Maybe i’m the only one deriving such satisfaction from last night. It was a great nite to be a Raider fan even tho yes…i realize it was ONLY preseason. But it was the most important preseason game and it was good to see us kicking some arse.
August 26th, 2012 at 10:51 am
Stop calling people that acknowledge palmers struggles are haters. It’s weak
August 26th, 2012 at 10:53 am
Marks hair Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 10:49 am
Well, i guess its time to get high & play some ps3.. yay sunday!
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Used to love chillin on the couch on a Sunday aft. and watching some lame 80’s movie like Cocktail or something…or the Firm and just be lazy.
Can’t do it today though as taking the kids to the fair. And spending money frivilously of course.
August 26th, 2012 at 10:56 am
DMAC, Typhoon and Goodson’s fumbleitis concerns me more then Palmers interceptions
August 26th, 2012 at 10:57 am
Yeah we used Wimbley as a DE but guess what?
He produced.He took advantage of the double team on Big Rich(Why do a lot of you hate on our D Captain?)and made a lot of plays.His job!He’ll make a lot for the Titans
also.Papa was mentioning he was a one man wrecking crew last week.We couldn’t afford him but can you see him in this defense this season….An Asset.
August 26th, 2012 at 10:58 am
425
Enjoy it man! I haven’t been a fan as long as some of you but real Raider fans deserve a dynasty, soon. lol One can only hope!
Go Raiders!
August 26th, 2012 at 11:07 am
Wimpley was a one trick pony. everyone knew that. his sack rate was terrible if you exclude ONE GAME where he went up against a 3rd string LT.
he did NOT do his job, or did you not watch the games last year Twinkle? he couldn’t stop the run to save his life.
the only part of the stat sheet he really showed up on was QB pressures/hurries.
he is a pass rush specialist, with a low sack rate. you can match that production from anywhere. the Raiders do need one it’s true, but he wasn’t worth anything near what he was getting.
August 26th, 2012 at 11:09 am
Maybe you guys didn’t get what I was saying, I wasn’t ripping Wimbley, my point was that we, and from what I saw the other day, the Titans as well, could and should have used him better, but the guy can only do as he’s told.
August 26th, 2012 at 11:10 am
One hour and a half till kick off
August 26th, 2012 at 11:10 am
DJ Johnny Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 10:46 am
Twinkle,
Here’s the post you’ll see when that happens:
“Enjoy your SB “victory’. Raids got lucky with what turned out to be an easy schedule on an off year for the league. While you losers are toasting your SB “Champions” keep in mind that Palmer is DONE. He’ll never have another yr. like this and if u think you’re gonna win two in a row with that loser you’re drinking way too much kool aid”.
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Sadly………You are probably right….when I walk around the parking lot before a game I never get
anything but ‘’scuse me Raider’ or fist pumps but no negativity.I guess that is the downside of internet anonymity.
August 26th, 2012 at 11:10 am
Stop calling people that acknowledge palmers struggles are haters. It’s weak
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Mistic,
You mean like what you called EVERYBODY that pointed out Jason Campbell’s struggles?
August 26th, 2012 at 11:11 am
Good game raiders…defense is awesome against the run..lamar and wheeler areall over the field..tk is a terror.. add cumbie and bilukidi to the roster….palmer will be fine.. three of those picks were on the receivers.is it possible seymour is out????? that would be a rmac grand slam!!!!!!!! too bad we can’t cut some of the posters in here!!!!???? love my Raideeeerrrrrrrrrs
August 26th, 2012 at 11:11 am
I liked your Seymour take because he is on my Raider pro bowler list as well as #2 behind death ro on my D draft list
August 26th, 2012 at 11:15 am
Today, I took out my 2011 Al Davis Cup, polished it up a tad, and will now embark on the first ever back-to-back Raider Dell’s World Famous Semi-Pro FFL championship, in the history of this great planet.
August 26th, 2012 at 11:15 am
Would love to see what’s on Reggie’s list of players around the league he thinks will be getting cut soon.
August 26th, 2012 at 11:17 am
yea let’s call PRESEASON struggling. hilarious.
you kids think if a QB is struggling now, that he’ll carry it over into the regular season. how many times have we seen a guy never showing up in the preseason, all the sudden KILL IT when the games count.
Carson is making some stupid decisions. many QBs around the league are. its preseason, get over it.
August 26th, 2012 at 11:18 am
SeaChickens Cut T.O.
August 26th, 2012 at 11:19 am
Miami,
it’s a big list. i’m willing to bet he’s got RB and TE as his #1 priorities. Goodson obviously did better, but he was running up against a bad 3rd/4th string front 7 of DET …
Jones showed why they believe in him as the #2, but he’s not a bruiser nor is he even sturdy enough. very unreliable.
August 26th, 2012 at 11:21 am
Xraided No I don’t ever see the games unless I can get to go to em.I listen to em and I’m also not as knowledgeable as many of you.I did not play the game
as many of you have….based on this you will have no argument out of me regarding your opinions and I listen to you guys when you say things like ‘Wimbley was one dimensional’.Might stick up a post to learn though.
August 26th, 2012 at 11:21 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
Today, I took out my 2011 Al Davis Cup, polished it up a tad, and will now embark on the first ever back-to-back Raider Dell’s World Famous Semi-Pro FFL championship, in the history of this great planet.
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Not so fast buddy, I’m coming for you.
August 26th, 2012 at 11:22 am
Raider Dell’s World Famous Semi-Pro FFL championship
I like it. Nice job
August 26th, 2012 at 11:23 am
i will admit about Carson,
his arm strength is suspect. that 41 sideline throw to DHB was terribly under thrown. had it been on time while DHB was in stride, it would have been 6. i hope he’s just warming it up, because we saw a lot of under throws last year.
even if the man does flop for some reason, we don’t have another choice on the team, besides maybe going Tebow mode like the donkos did last year.
come to think of it… it wouldn’t be the worst back up plan in the world. TP, DMC, Jones, Reece(at TE) Moore, DHB, Streater on the field at once? talk about keeping the defenses on their toes.
August 26th, 2012 at 11:24 am
I would talk smack but my lips are sealed till I sport a winning record again
August 26th, 2012 at 11:28 am
Twinkle,
sorry i wasn’t trying to rub it in. sorry you can’t watch the games… that’s no good man.
Wimbley showed flashes the year Al traded a 3rd rounder for him. i liked him a lot that year. Marshall had the D blitzing to NO END, which like you said, he took advantage of.
the point is, since that’s really the only thing he’s good at, you can easily throw in a 3rd down pass rusher along with Wheeler threatening from that same end, and get that kind of production (QB pressures and sacks) …
7.5 from wimbley last year, 4 came in one game against Cry me a Rivers. Al loved the man, so he paid him. it was a bloated contract, “out of whack”, and needed to be remedied so BigMac can stay responsible with his money for next year and beyond, where he can go out and get a REAL DE that is multi-functional.
August 26th, 2012 at 11:28 am
I know these guys: SemiproDell, ExLA’s Dream Team, SilverandBlack666, Podunk Express, THE JFB’s, SouthTexasRaider, Maverick, Dakota Rules! and Dennis Allen’s Visor and I think Maverick is a guys who used to post as Ryan, right?.
But who are DMAC ATTACK and Palmerhead? I mean their blog names….
August 26th, 2012 at 11:29 am
god i love Plunk, but the man has problems talking on the air. same with Flores. good lord they put on a mumbling act the whole time. Papa is in between them like ‘CMON GET THE WORD OUT!’
August 26th, 2012 at 11:30 am
how many times have we seen a guy never showing up in the preseason, all the sudden KILL IT when the games count.
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Yup, Cam Newton last year, who didn’t score any points for like 3 games, than set about every NFL record for a rookie.
Not comparing Cam to Carson, just saying, JUST LAST YEAR, we saw a rookie QB look a tad overwhelmed in the preseason, than looked like a top 10 QB about 1 quarter into the regular season.
August 26th, 2012 at 11:31 am
Xraided.
Maybe if we had moved Wimbley around looking for a mismatch instead of having him line up across the OT on almost every pass-rushing snap, he would have notched a few more sacks.
August 26th, 2012 at 11:32 am
Plunketthead Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 11:22 am
Raider Dell’s World Famous Semi-Pro FFL championship
I like it. Nice job
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WoW sucking up already.
Your my hero, always Plunk
August 26th, 2012 at 11:32 am
But yeah, his price-tag was out of whack.
August 26th, 2012 at 11:33 am
DJ Johnny Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 10:02 am
Palmer had at least two easy passes dropped. One was the int. to McGee, but the “haters” have no interest in being fair, they have a predisposed hatred for the guy and no interest seeing him succeed.
I can picture a few of the posters here dilligently taking notes on every error Palmer makes…however small, and even plays where it isn’t his fault they say “well EVERY int. counts it doesn’t matter how it happened”.
More interested in backing up their hate than the team succeeding.
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Criticism is NOT hate.
August 26th, 2012 at 11:33 am
Let’s face it, our D had been outdated and predictable for years… can’t wait to see all the wrinkles that will be unleashed once the games matter.
August 26th, 2012 at 11:34 am
Can I get a list of all teams that run a similar offense as us, with their tight end depth chart? I’d look there. Trade, potential cut or free agent…
Anthony Dixon would be a nice to our roster, that’s he if gets cut…last I remember, Jacobs was hurt?
August 26th, 2012 at 11:34 am
Dell, help.
I know these guys: SemiproDell, ExLA’s Dream Team, SilverandBlack666, Podunk Express, THE JFB’s, SouthTexasRaider, Maverick, Dakota Rules! and Dennis Allen’s Visor and I think Maverick is a guys who used to post as Ryan, right?.
But who are DMAC ATTACK and Palmerhead? I mean their blog names….
August 26th, 2012 at 11:35 am
Bob Marley Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 11:28 am
I know these guys: SemiproDell, ExLA’s Dream Team, SilverandBlack666, Podunk Express, THE JFB’s, SouthTexasRaider, Maverick, Dakota Rules! and Dennis Allen’s Visor and I think Maverick is a guys who used to post as Ryan, right?.
But who are DMAC ATTACK and Palmerhead? I mean their blog names
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Marley,
Great job as usual on this blog bringing inside Football facts to us, thanks.
DMAC is in here during the morning and has been for many years, and is not Craig. Maverick is not craig. Don’t know what happen to Craig.
Palmerhead is our wierdo guy we need for laughs.
August 26th, 2012 at 11:35 am
Cracks me up!!! So and so’s got a suspect arm until I saw Sonny Jurgensen on his 70th birthday tooling around
with the skins players before a Cowboy game.Took a ball and winged it behind his back 75 yards in the air with a vicious spiral….that was a hell of a lot of beer gut to
get around.Or Elways three amigos with all their fingers
in splints catching him in pregame warmups.
August 26th, 2012 at 11:36 am
Marley
Just playin, Palmerhead is Plunk, and Maverick is Raider Maverick.
August 26th, 2012 at 11:37 am
Miami.
Apparently A. Dixon is gonna get the axe.
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“49ers RB Anthony Dixon is unlikely make the 53-man roster.
Frank Gore, Kendall Hunter, and LaMichael James are obvious locks to stick. Coach Jim Harbaugh already said Brandon Jacobs’ spot is safe and Rock Cartwright is expected to stay on as a special team contributor.
That leaves Dixon on the outside look in. Reportedly in great shape, the 6′1/233 Dixon figures to get snatched up quickly on waivers.”
- I remember him from his draft year and looking good in pre-season in the past, powerful downhill runner who could help is short-yardage situations and maybe develop into a useful back.
August 26th, 2012 at 11:37 am
Marley
Are you going to play in STR’S FFL?
August 26th, 2012 at 11:39 am
Thanks Commish Dell.
August 26th, 2012 at 11:39 am
We got DMAC in there this year, sweet.
Great job commish!!!!
(not sucking up)
August 26th, 2012 at 11:41 am
Dell.
I don’t know, when is the Draft?.
August 26th, 2012 at 11:41 am
Can Dixon play special teams? The best question is can Dixon beat Goodson out as a RB and special teamer.
August 26th, 2012 at 11:41 am
Anthony Dixon would be a stellar pickup, IMO.
I like Taiwan, but I don’t think you can count on him 16 games a year, and is kind of “lite” version of D-Mac.
August 26th, 2012 at 11:41 am
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I hope Reggie’s gut has a good feeling about Dixon. Hope he’s on his list.
August 26th, 2012 at 11:42 am
Bob Marley Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 11:41 am
Dell.
I don’t know, when is the Draft?.
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Tuesday August 28 at 6:30 PDT
August 26th, 2012 at 11:42 am
BTW, what is up with the 12:45 start time?
Were 12:30 or 1 booked up?
August 26th, 2012 at 11:43 am
JFB
Great comment #435, LOL
August 26th, 2012 at 11:44 am
Who’s going to the season opener? I’m flying up from Los Angeles…
Let me know Raider Nation, I’m down to meet up during the tailgate.
Let’s go Raiders!!!!
August 26th, 2012 at 11:46 am
Lets do this!
August 26th, 2012 at 11:46 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 11:42 am
BTW, what is up with the 12:45 start time?
Were 12:30 or 1 booked up?
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When I changed the date that was the only time available for our change and the next time was not available until 3:00
August 26th, 2012 at 11:46 am
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.
I don’t see how continuing to force the issue w/ McFadden at the goal line makes sense. He doesn’t need to get beat up like that, plus the fact it isn’t working.
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Maybe Knapp has some tricks up his sleeve we don’t know about yet! At least I hope that’s the case.
August 26th, 2012 at 11:47 am
Raider Dell Says:
Can Dixon play special teams? The best question is can Dixon beat Goodson out as a RB and special teamer.
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Considering D-Mac’s bad luck, Taiwan’s health concerns and Goodson’s fumble issues….I strongly feel we need to carry 4 RB’s into the season.
A. Dixon, Steve Slaton or somebody else must be picked-up.
August 26th, 2012 at 11:47 am
Owens cut from Seahawks, that’s it for his career.
August 26th, 2012 at 11:48 am
I will be at the Season Opener
August 26th, 2012 at 11:49 am
Knapp’s Offense relies heavily on RB’s, they are the centerpiece of his scheme and he has said he likes to use 1, 2 and even 3 RB’s, we can’t afford to mess that position up.
August 26th, 2012 at 11:50 am
Bob Marley Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 11:47 am
Raider Dell Says:
Can Dixon play special teams? The best question is can Dixon beat Goodson out as a RB and special teamer.
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Considering D-Mac’s bad luck, Taiwan’s health concerns and Goodson’s fumble issues….I strongly feel we need to carry 4 RB’s into the season.
A. Dixon, Steve Slaton or somebody else must be picked-up.
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Bob,
Based on your above answer, who is on the 46 man roster gamedays. A special teamer like Goodson or Dixon, who hasn’t played much. Remember if their keeping Cartwright, Dixon is not a special teams guy.
August 26th, 2012 at 11:51 am
Is there anything we can offer that the Texans would be willing to trade Owen Daniels for? Draft picks? players?
I’m thinking really far outside of the box here. lol
August 26th, 2012 at 11:52 am
When I changed the date that was the only time available for our change and the next time was not available until 3:00
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Seriously?
I was trying to be a smart azz, didn’t know that there was time slots unavailable.
August 26th, 2012 at 11:53 am
Dell,
I reviewed the FFL scoring system, and it appears you took out the bonuses for reaching certain yardage benchmarks….is that correct?
August 26th, 2012 at 11:54 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 11:52 am
When I changed the date that was the only time available for our change and the next time was not available until 3:00
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Seriously?
I was trying to be a smart azz, didn’t know that there was time slots unavailable.
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JFB
As reighning Champ, I always take you seriously. You are not a smart azz, ever LOL
August 26th, 2012 at 11:56 am
You are all going down I am going to DOMINATE!!!!!!!!!
August 26th, 2012 at 11:57 am
Raider Dell Says:
Can Dixon play special teams? The best question is can Dixon beat Goodson out as a RB and special teamer.
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Considering D-Mac’s bad luck, Taiwan’s health concerns and Goodson’s fumble issues….I strongly feel we need to carry 4 RB’s into the season.
A. Dixon, Steve Slaton or somebody else must be picked-up.
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Bob,
Based on your above answer, who is on the 46 man roster gamedays. A special teamer like Goodson or Dixon, who hasn’t played much. Remember if their keeping Cartwright, Dixon is not a special teams guy.
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Dell,
With everyone healthy, probably Goodson for ST’s play and if someone goes down you activate Dixon or the new RB for the following week, that way we have a contingency plan and a guy who practices with us on a daily basis instead of picking up someone from the street and expecting him to be ready to play.
August 26th, 2012 at 11:57 am
Dakota Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 11:53 am
Dell,
I reviewed the FFL scoring system, and it appears you took out the bonuses for reaching certain yardage benchmarks….is that correct?
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Dakota,
My never met son, how are you?
Yes no bonuses.
August 26th, 2012 at 11:57 am
“Win, lose or tie…Raider nation til you die!”
August 26th, 2012 at 11:58 am
I am fine Dad….just give me my space.
August 26th, 2012 at 11:58 am
Back in a few minutes.
August 26th, 2012 at 11:59 am
Dakota,
All the complaints were due to high efficient QB’S and what manager had the and what managers didn’t have a good QB. After reviewing all the hate mail towards me, I got rid of the bonus points.
August 26th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
SHM hate mail…..those punks! You deserve better Dell….no respect!
August 26th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
*SMH
August 26th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
Dakota Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
SHM hate mail…..those punks! You deserve better Dell….no respect!
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Worse than my wife!!!!
August 26th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
DEF, D, LB
Does the “D” mean any Defensive player?
August 26th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
I am in the draft room!
August 26th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
DEF, D, LB
Does the “D” mean any Defensive player?
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Yes my Blues Brother.
August 26th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Draft open, let’s have some fun.
August 26th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
exla gets the #1 pick….Bob gets the last pick….
August 26th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
well I have it all mapped out as to the scoring potential of each position.
I have a draft strategy but once its starts anything can happen.
August 26th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
Blues Brothers = best movie soundtrack ever
My old man told me he played with Steve Cropper, and always tried to model his bass play after Duck Dunn.
Ray Charles kills “Shake your tailfeathers” in the movie.
August 26th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
Someone is drunk early today
August 26th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
I am going to take some pre draft bong rips
August 26th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
Plunk Picking 11th
August 26th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
is the draft in?
August 26th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
is the draft in?
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Draft open
August 26th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
LOL, Shouldn’t you guys be doing yard work or something?
Wash the wifes car?
August 26th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
Keep me updated on your draft…. It’s slow at work and I have no life
August 26th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
Mistic feelings got hurt, when captain check down got shown the door, get over it soup sucks and will never be a starting QB.
August 26th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
PurpleDrank81 Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
Keep me updated on your draft…. It’s slow at work and I have no life
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I will time permits
August 26th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
Is TP going to be the secret weapon inside the 5 this year?
August 26th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
Is TP going to be the secret weapon inside the 5 this year?
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You never know, but Knapp seems hell bent on letting DMAC punch it in.
I hope that Knapp randomly puts Pryor under center just to cause some major confusion on opposing DC’s.
August 26th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
KoolKell Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 11:33 am
DJ Johnny Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 10:02 am
Palmer had at least two easy passes dropped. One was the int. to McGee, but the “haters” have no interest in being fair, they have a predisposed hatred for the guy and no interest seeing him succeed.
I can picture a few of the posters here dilligently taking notes on every error Palmer makes…however small, and even plays where it isn’t his fault they say “well EVERY int. counts it doesn’t matter how it happened”.
More interested in backing up their hate than the team succeeding.
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I agree. I have criticized Palmer myself. I think he threw a crappy pass on the int. to the lineman, and i’ve been on him for other stuff too but i think it’s obvious there is some predisposed “dislike” i’ll say for the guy when someone calls his int. against AZ “the worst interception in the history of the league’. C’mon.
August 26th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
Any word on cut players yet?
August 26th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
TxRaider210 Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
Is TP going to be the secret weapon inside the 5 this year?
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“secret weapon”? How about starting QB.
They need to let TP have some reps with the first string on Thursday. Let’s see what he can do. We have seen enough of CP.
August 26th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
TO just got cut.
Yet BSPN still hasnt put any coverage of our game on their website. Their Raider-Hating bias is so evident.
August 26th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
Didnt every1 want to get rid of Pryor like 3days ago… Now every1 is calling for him to start???
SMH … SMH
August 26th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
439.MiamiRaider78 Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 11:15 am
Would love to see what’s on Reggie’s list of players around the league he thinks will be getting cut soon.
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Reggie likes: Big and Fast.
August 26th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
PurpleDrank81 Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
Didnt every1 want to get rid of Pryor like 3days ago… Now every1 is calling for him to start???
SMH … SMH
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Not me. CP is garbage INT machine. Not sure why so many on here give him a free pass to suck. He has not proven anything.
TP has a long way to go but his upside is high and damn that boy is FAST.
August 26th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
BSPN doesn’t cover any sports West of the rockies
August 26th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
CP3 is being perceived wrongly. He is a good, serviceable QB, but he has seen his best days. For the 100th time, what you saw last year is the best you’ll get this season. He’ll throw a bonehead INT every game.
I am not sure why Pryor got the criticism he did: if you watch his performances from Ohio State he was dazzling.
One thing not to forget, is that yesterday for the most part TP played against the 2nd and 3rd string D of the Lions. He also played mainly with 2nd and 3rd string Raiders. So maybe one offsets the other.
Odds are is that CP3 might go down for a few games in the regular season and we can see what Pryor will do in real games against 1st string opponents.
Based on his college history he’ll probably rise to the occasion.
Who knows about CP3. He doesn’t seem to be much of a leader. He doesn’t have the same sort of charisma TP has.
TP was saying last week, I am great and I’ll win games on a wholesale basis, if given a chance to develop. TP has confidence that picks up the entire team. TP showed himself yesterday, and was impressive.
To go back to CP3, doing the same thing – throwing boneheaded INT’s with a lack of running ability, is a letdown, to say the least.
August 26th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
Blackandsilverside,
All your insanity aside, one thing you nailed is Houdini’s leadership. CP3 is a fine leader and has this team on his back. But that said, if he goes down Im not the least bit worried about Houdini not being able to carry the torch. He will demand it.
I like the kids charisma as much as the next guy. But to say Palmer isnt a leader is wrong. Houdini himself loves Palmer and wouldnt be where he is now if Palmer didnt take him under his wing.
All the haters are very quick to forget just how willing CP3 has been to help Houdini along.
August 26th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
The funniest part of everything is once again the actual games prove that 90% of you don’t have ANY idea what is going on out there on the field.
August 26th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
My girlfriend grew up in Seattle area.
We’re playing the SeaGulls next week right?
Whats a juicy wager I should place with her on the game?
August 26th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
The Fantasy QB to take is Matt Ryan. Guy is being placed in a spread offense where he’ll throw the ball 40 times a game, has two stud WRs, a stud TE…
and is available in round 5 most drafts.
August 26th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
Raider Riff Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
Blackandsilverside,
All your insanity aside, one thing you nailed is Houdini’s leadership. CP3 is a fine leader and has this team on his back. But that said, if he goes down Im not the least bit worried about Houdini not being able to carry the torch. He will demand it.
I like the kids charisma as much as the next guy. But to say Palmer isnt a leader is wrong. Houdini himself loves Palmer and wouldnt be where he is now if Palmer didnt take him under his wing.
All the haters are very quick to forget just how willing CP3 has been to help Houdini along.
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Thank you Riff. Did you see Palmer try to run over a defender at the 4 yard line last night? Or Palmer grabbing one of their LB’s off the pile on the McFadden score and throwing him back? Well, the Raider players saw it. And they love the guy. Those things are not lost on the players. Butbackslide’s favorite team the Whiners are about to come on.
August 26th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
Raider Riff Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
My girlfriend grew up in Seattle area.
We’re playing the SeaGulls next week right?
Whats a juicy wager I should place with her on the game?
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I’m thinking handcuffs. Your imaginations can go from there.
August 26th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
Raider Riff Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
Blackandsilverside,
All your insanity aside, one thing you nailed is Houdini’s leadership. CP3 is a fine leader and has this team on his back. But that said, if he goes down Im not the least bit worried about Houdini not being able to carry the torch. He will demand it.
I like the kids charisma as much as the next guy. But to say Palmer isnt a leader is wrong. Houdini himself loves Palmer and wouldnt be where he is now if Palmer didnt take him under his wing.
All the haters are very quick to forget just how willing CP3 has been to help Houdini along.
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So say you Raider Riff, and I respect your opinion. I don’t hate anyone, especially CP3.
Was only giving my opinion; and that’s all it is, an opinion.
August 26th, 2012 at 1:03 pm
RaidO
Palmer had a QB rating well over 100 in 4 games last season.
Those are Brady-esque numbers (300+ yards, multiple TDs).
He did that without any preseason.
He also had a few terrible games, which is expected.
Why all the whining? How does that suck?
August 26th, 2012 at 1:06 pm
Blackandsilver
what RaiderRiff is saying, though, is not merely an opinion. Palmer’s incredible leadership has been reported numerous times from the moment he arrived last season through this pre-season and his teammates love it.
August 26th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
Pryor has ONE GOOD HALF against 2nd and 3rd stringers and now he’s better than Palmer?
In games THAT MATTER, like the last few games at the end of the season, Palmer did very good. What’s he done for me lately? Try 417 yds. and 2 td’s THE LAST GAME HE PLAYED THAT COUNTED.
Some of u guys wanna roast him for throwing a few int’s in preseason. Football geniuses.
August 26th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
524-BINGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 26th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
Michael Lombardi siad yesterday that the key stat in rating a QB is not completion % but rather YARDS PER ATTEMPT.
I think Palmer ranked in the top 5 in the league in that stat last yr and that with coming off the couch to take over a football team and learning a new playbook. In addition to having his key receiver injured and the best player on the team…and a key weapon in DMAC being out the whole time.
August 26th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
DJ-those weren’t 2 stringers,they were already on the sidelines with their pads off.Those were mostly guys that will be bagging groceries or washing cars in a week or so.Still,at least he looked like a capable BU which is what he will be for the foreseeable future.Sit and learn kid.
August 26th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
Alex7 Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 1:03 pm
RaidO
Palmer had a QB rating well over 100 in 4 games last season.
Those are Brady-esque numbers (300+ yards, multiple TDs).
He did that without any preseason.
He also had a few terrible games, which is expected.
Why all the whining? How does that suck?
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This preseason:
Four interceptions in three games and that is not just a preseason thing either.
August 26th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
The funniest part of everything is once again the actual games prove that 90% of you don’t have ANY idea what is going on out there on the field.
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On what basis do you this this claim? The presumption is that 90% of the posters here know nothing while somehow you have the inside track on “what is going on out there on the field.”
You are a former NFL player of staff member?
Also you state: “Did you see Palmer try to run over a defender at the 4 yard line last night? Or Palmer grabbing one of their LB’s off the pile on the McFadden score and throwing him back? Well, the Raider players saw it. And they love the guy. Those things are not lost on the players.”
First, CP3 needed to redeem himself after reverting to a bone-headed INT, which he’ll continue to throw. He better congratulate the defense for pulling out the second half for him, because that is what happened.
Last, you state “But backslide’s favorite team the Whiners are about to come on”, which is false. They are my second favorite team after the “Raiders.”
And what do you mean they are “about to come on”?
August 26th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
Instead of knee jerk reactions to a rookie having a good half of football (which i loved by the way) let’s talk about the fact we spanked the Lions in the most important of the preseason matchups.
We kicked their butt, and Pryor helped make it happen.
It’s only preseason… but it was fun.
August 26th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
According to TP it sounds like they are not giving him enough practice time and holding him back. Reason for the improvement? They need to let him play with the first stringers:
TP:
“I felt real comfortable because when I was with the [third team unit] I would get like 10 plays in practice. That’s not really enough for me that I can really get the feel for it. They say that you win games in practice, and I wasn’t winning in practice with 10 plays, it’s impossible. I’m not really getting the feel for the exact plays that I’m going to be running whereas this week I kind of did. It was good to get extra reps behind Carson. It was great”
August 26th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
All the DHB haters sure are quite today.I’m surprised they aren’t here complaining because they didn’t like the way he caught that 41 yd pass.
August 26th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
Palmer is NOT the effen problem people!
knapps inabiity to design an offense around Palmer, DMAC and Co. IS the problem.
Let Palmer call his own game.
Period.
August 26th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
I like Palmer but not above admitting that he needs to not make those int’s… and be a little more careful.
August 26th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
Anyway, it doesn’t even matter because CP3 is our QB and will remain so. I wish him well. With our current defense he will do well and won’t be put in the position to score 40 pts per game. TP is a project and has a long, long way to go.
Why is everyone so huffy on this fine Sunday afternoon???
August 26th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
3rd string QBs don’t get a ton of reps.
August 26th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
Lefty12 Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
All the DHB haters sure are quite today.I’m surprised they aren’t here complaining because they didn’t like the way he caught that 41 yd pass.
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Lefty, I have been very skeptical of DHB. But that was a beautiful catch, everyone must admit that.
August 26th, 2012 at 1:25 pm
lol RaidO
but it IS a preseason thing, because I just showed you how he dominated in half the games he played last season.
Tom Brady looked terrible in preseason. You think they care?
Looking at LAST SEASON, we saw what Palmer can do. A few great games, a few terrible games. Can we assume the terrible ones had to do with lack of playbook knowledge, lack of DMac, and rust?
Of course. And the dominant ones? Talent level.
August 26th, 2012 at 1:25 pm
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August 26th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
First, CP3 needed to redeem himself after reverting to a bone-headed INT, which he’ll continue to throw.
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That’s the point. Palmer didn’t need to redeem himself. Palmer was playing with DHB, Rod Streater, and Eddie McGee two of which have never started an NFL game in their lives against one of last years playoff teams. And they left the game with the lead. And more yardage. Even with two turnovers.
August 26th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
1st INT, WR fault.
2nd INT, RB held.
And it’s preseason.
Burn CP at the stake. ignoramuses.
August 26th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
Remind yourself what CP did vs the Lions when it mattered, you know, the real season last year:
32-40 (let that sink in) 32 for 40.
367 yards. 32-40 while making legit DOWNFIELD throws.
No interceptions.
I think he knows how to play, especially once he has real WRs and this full pre-season.
August 26th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
Fukking manning…
August 26th, 2012 at 1:35 pm
blackandsilverside Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
Anyway, it doesn’t even matter because CP3 is our QB
and will remain so. I wish him well. With our current defense he will do well and won’t be put in the position to score 40 pts per game. TP is a project and has a long, long way to go.
Why is everyone so huffy on this fine Sunday afternoon???
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When we should be enjoying insight like this:
http://www.sbreport.net › Raiders News
What the Detroit Lions won’t say is that, starters against starters, their offense was for the most part shut down, beaten, and dominated and the stats bare that out.
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I don’t care WHO does it. Palmer, Pryor or Cabellero.
August 26th, 2012 at 1:35 pm
Lol So much for comparing Palmer & Peyton mannings pre season. Manning is carving the niner defense like a Christmas turkey. Please dont EEEVVEERR compare these two again, they are worlds apart
August 26th, 2012 at 1:35 pm
Peyton looking really good so far against the Whiners’ “vaunted” defense.
August 26th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
This just in: SF Whiners suck.
August 26th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
Marks hair Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
Fukking manning…
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What he do?
August 26th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 1:35 pm
Lol So much for comparing Palmer & Peyton mannings pre season. Manning is carving the niner defense like a Christmas turkey. Please dont EEEVVEERR compare these two again, they are worlds apart
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August 26th, 2012 at 1:39 pm
Egghead took a big hit too.
August 26th, 2012 at 1:39 pm
Watching Manning tear up a good SF defense.
Looks like the same old Manning to me.
August 26th, 2012 at 1:39 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 1:35 pm
Lol So much for comparing Palmer & Peyton mannings pre season. Manning is carving the niner defense like a Christmas turkey. Please dont EEEVVEERR compare these two again, they are worlds apart
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Honestly, I think Manning looks terrible. He is definitely NOT the Manning we have known for the last four years. He is just dumping off and dumping off. What is happening is the Whiners are getting NO Rush. None. Basically that is an 7 on 7 drill out there. Manning will own that.
August 26th, 2012 at 1:39 pm
Not here to say TP has arrived but I was just happy to see the improvement e kept hearing about. I a big TP guy I just wanna see him continue to get better and I think he should be ready to takeover by the time CP contract expires. BTW also a big CP fan as well and I also think he is primed for a big season and Mistic and other haters will ride his nuts all season. All the haters of TP and CP will be quiet for awhile.
August 26th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
6 for 6 and a td on the drive i saw. 8 of 10 overall i guess
August 26th, 2012 at 1:41 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 1:35 pm
Lol So much for comparing Palmer & Peyton mannings pre season. Manning is carving the niner defense like a Christmas turkey. Please dont EEEVVEERR compare these two again, they are worlds apart
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Will you stop it with your obsession with trying to discredit Palmer and talk about something else? Can you? Or is your obsession so all consuming that u are unable to do so?
If it was so obvious that Palmer sucked than u wouldn’t have to constantly post garbage trying to make your weak points. It would be self evident.
Move on already.
August 26th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
550.
He must be pulling one over on the entire league then. Just doesn’t look very crisp and somewhat indecisive.
I hope you’re right though.
August 26th, 2012 at 1:43 pm
Dungvers jerseys are so ugly..
August 26th, 2012 at 1:43 pm
The only comparison to Manning in the preseason is becuz of idiots talking about the number of pics Palmer has thrown.
Manning threw just as many before this week. That’s just a fact.
Not many here are comparing Palmer to him..just pointing out it’s pre freaking season.
Talk about Palmers stats against SD. No don’t. It doesn;t fit your agenda.
August 26th, 2012 at 1:43 pm
Whiners look like they don’t want to be there.
August 26th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
10 of 12 2 tds vs sfs 1s… gross
August 26th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
Palmer is both over rated and under rated. Just depends which wackjob fans you are talking to.
August 26th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
lol niners
August 26th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
Yeah Manning is very good. Only a fool would deny that.
But being a Raider fan i’m not reveling in his success in Denver like some posters.
August 26th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
NFL Network is replying the game tonight at 10PM CST I’ll have to wait to watch it until then.
August 26th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
The hateful cockscking Donks look tight. I despise them. You MUST relentlessly pressure the Martian-head.
August 26th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
Darren McFadden longest runs in 2011= 70 yd, and 2010= 57 yd.
TP breaks a 59 yd’er. It’s only preseason but you get the idea.
Terrelle Pryor 59 yd Run
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZxMYGLDjUA
August 26th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
Manning is throwing with Manning like accuracy, but he is not throwing with velocity. The league will figure this out and play tight coverage with a lot of pressure. Then let’s see what happens.
August 26th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
Lets just enjoy watching the Whiners get shredded and worry about Peyton’s “dump-offs” in week 4.
August 26th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
The thing that really struck me about TP’s long run was he was SO much faster than even their DB’s. Like he was a different species.
August 26th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
I can breath again. I only messed up two picks and only panicked once.
I dusted my tree with kif and woke up to flashing red with 8 seconds left.
I hope Nate Burleson has a great year. Maybe if Calvin goes down. Remember the Madden jinx.
August 26th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
I changed my draft strategy this year.
I took the crazy as as a fox stance
August 26th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 1:43 pm
The only comparison to Manning in the preseason is becuz of idiots talking about the number of pics Palmer has thrown.
Manning threw just as many before this week. That’s just a fact.
Not many here are comparing Palmer to him..just pointing out it’s pre freaking season.
Talk about Palmers stats against SD. No don’t. It doesn;t fit your agenda.
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Uhhh no. People are saying Palmer is elite, he is not manning is, no comparison.
I have been on palmers picks going back to last year, even before he ever put on a raided uniform. I predicted his struggles while 99% of the people here claimed he was a savior.
The pre season has only further backed my argument
So far Palmer is proving me right, and for this people are butt hurt.
August 26th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
Plunk#1… tree gardening this year?
August 26th, 2012 at 1:55 pm
Our d looks better than they have in ages. If they can keep it going we can compete with anybody.. keeping my fingers crossed cause its only preseason.
August 26th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
Isn’t Parish Cox the rapist?
August 26th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
If the Raiders are going to ascend to elite status, they must learn to dominate a good division.
The AFC West has been crappy for years. It is that much sweeter to win a tough division.
August 26th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
BTW, who likes LaMarr Houston’s hair?
August 26th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
We still beating that dead horse named “Palmer stinks”?
That blows almost as much as waiting till oct for fire.
I am fortunate to have a year round indoor tomato farm and just one outdoor tree
August 26th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
PlunkforHOF Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
The thing that really struck me about TP’s long run was he was SO much faster than even their DB’s. Like he was a different species.
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Well, that’s kind of the point. And what I mean by that is Pryor was playing against fringe NFL players and glorified high schoolers who have no business in the league. If he is as good as advertised he should dominate them. And he did. But against bona fide NFLers they are just as big and just as fast. That makes a difference.
August 26th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
Year-round tomatoes.. awesome. I’ve got nine varieties of heirlooms going this year.. and 3 types to trees.
August 26th, 2012 at 2:00 pm
BTW, who likes LaMarr Houston’s hair?
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I think it makes him play better.
August 26th, 2012 at 2:00 pm
The Visor can call the Pimp Hand for some division dominating tips. Long distance of course. No sense getting withing smacking distance if you dont have to.
August 26th, 2012 at 2:00 pm
*of*
August 26th, 2012 at 2:01 pm
Waddup Nation
Rack ‘em
August 26th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
BSJ it’s Condo’s b-day today! What you get him?
August 26th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
The pre season has only further backed my argument
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What has Palmer done this preseason that furthered your argument? You break his play down play by play, and Palmer has played well. Ford, McGee and a couple of others haven’t. Palmer has.
August 26th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
How about that? The buttminers are playing the dirtmules.
What did we miss?
August 26th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
All the DHB haters sure are quite today.I’m surprised they aren’t here complaining because they didn’t like the way he caught that 41 yd pass.
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LOL @ Lefty!
good call
August 26th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
Starting another Draft, thanks guys who played.
August 26th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
All the DHB haters sure are quite today.I’m surprised they aren’t here complaining because they didn’t like the way he caught that 41 yd pass.
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That was a great friggin catch. Would be by any receiver.
August 26th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
Raiders to work out Billy Cundiff??
how serious is Jano’s groin injury?
August 26th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
Bodhi goji og
Dr gt bubba og
eskos chocolate rain
Thats my current faorite ice cream flavors
August 26th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
Later Swell Dell
August 26th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
Ron Parker was among Seahawk cuts
anybody want him back??
he did have “Raider speed” , ya know?
August 26th, 2012 at 2:08 pm
Does square dell sounds cooler then swell dell?
No more kissing commish butt for me
August 26th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
we could also claim TE Cameron Morrah , if we think he’ll be back healthy soon
August 26th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
Solid showing yesterday! Can’t do nothing but be excited for the future. What I love the most is how Allen isn’t gushing over any players even after an impressive team showing like that; therefore no one feels entitled (one of my only knacks with Hue).
Couple notes
Taiwan Jones actually played! And even better; he stayed on the field like he really wanted to play! Might be something there after all.
Tollefson, Cumbie & Bilukudi all looked good. Would hate to part ways with any of ‘em.
Spencer is a lot better than Bartell out of the old head corners. Not even close.
Pryor is still far from where I would like him to be; but he took a big step. Has to prove hecan nail intermediate throws from the pocket before I’d move him up on the depth chart; but he could be a year and another training camp away if he applies himself.
DVD needs another 15 lbs before he tries to square somebody up like that on the sideline…Hahaha; got trucked for real
& last but not least; can we please take Goodson off KR?
August 26th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
mostly nobodies getting cut around the league so far, as expected
August 26th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
I’m really hoping we see DeGnarlious and Wiz back this week. Even for the shortest time to have some game speed minutes. Then do we not have a ten day break before MNF?
August 26th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
We’ll be fine at TE. No world beaters, but serviceable.
August 26th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
Sorry T.O. – hope you saved up. Car wash jobs suck.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/terrell-owens-tweets-released-seahawks-193738271–nfl.html
August 26th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
’serviceable’ is a serious under statement
what do all the top 10 QBs have throughout the league? a good TE that’s reliable on 3rd and whatever … MOVE THE CHAINS. it’s doubtful that the Raiders currently have a 700+ yard TE on the roster.
the only hope i have is that Reece will have a big job lining up at TE this year. he’ll shred LB’s or DE’s trying to blanket him.
it’s either that or maybe since the SeaChunks have Winslow, they’d be willing to unload Zach Miller’s contract by us giving them a conditional 5th round pick in the 2014 draft! haha! it would be low risk high reward … seeing as his contract is high. Zach is in a system that doesn’t favor TE’s in SEA …
he would be way better than anything we’ve got… Knapp has a capable QB to get to TE’s, and Greg just happened to have already worked with Zach… match made in heaven if the price is right.
August 26th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
Plunk
looking at your FFL team and see Michael Bush,really.
August 26th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
Myers/Ausberry/Gordon = good enough at TE
leave it alone!
August 26th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
Agreed, getting DMo17 & Wiz II back will be a huge lift for the offense
Heck – even getting TJones & Myers back healthy for the first time (against Detroit) made an impact
August 26th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
Brady had a Pro Bowl caliber TE last season. Eli didn’t. Tell me another one, Xfaded.
August 26th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
DWow
DHB
Streater
Criner
Ford
Thats quite a receiving corps.
August 26th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
Myers/Ausberry/Gordon = good enough at TE
leave it alone!
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i respect your opinion, as i usually do RR
but you are HIGH!
those are 3 first of all SHAKY TE’s, durability wise
and they are less than mediocre.
most compare our offense to what HOU is trying to do, correct? what does Schaub have than Palmer doesn’t? a pretty reliable TE. Owens isn’t a ‘world beater’, he’s what is considered serviceable.
what the Raiders have isn’t even close to what Owens is to HOU. that’s a fact jack.
August 26th, 2012 at 2:24 pm
Also, “’serviceable’ is an UNDERSTATEMENT?”
Well, okay, I guess that means you think highly of Myers. Good.
August 26th, 2012 at 2:24 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
The pre season has only further backed my argument
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What has Palmer done this preseason that furthered your argument? You break his play down play by play, and Palmer has played well. Ford, McGee and a couple of others haven’t. Palmer has.
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Start with the ameture hour ints, follow tha up with 0 td passes , and top it off with posting a paltry Andrew Walter esque qb rating of 32 & 53 in back to back weeks playing the entire first half.
Yep he is making me look like negrodamuas
August 26th, 2012 at 2:24 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
Myers/Ausberry/Gordon = good enough at TE
leave it alone!
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I don’t know. Gronkowski, Graham, Davis, Gates, Finley, Gonzalez. Those are all playoff teams. Even in our division in addition to Gates, you have Moeki and Dressen both of which are really going to help their offenses. I like Myers but Ausberry and Gordon are going to have to get better. In a hurry.
August 26th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
i agree Plunk ..
what they need is a move the chains TE, and they will be unstoppable. Knapp loves throwing to TE’s, so i’m willing to believe he has a game plan, one that doesn’t involve the 3 he has on the roster currently.
i would rather see Reece at TE, DMC lined up at receiver, with Jones in the backfield. that’ll make any defense go crazy trying to stop.
August 26th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
Bleeder I agree, Raiders need to keep Cumbie & Biloduki,
(Tollefson not going anywhere, he is our 3rd DE);
add to the three above: Burris, Wheeler, & Ihenacho!
Cumbie & Biloduki we need to keep for our future as well; Seymour will probably retire and Bryant is an UFA, (Kelley only has one or two more years left on his contract).
August 26th, 2012 at 2:28 pm
Hahaha now people are blaming our tight ends for the offensive struggles?!!!?!?! Wow!!!
Sorry but o line & qb is where the offense starts & ends, both have been shabby so far
August 26th, 2012 at 2:28 pm
yea Bush, i was just saying the Raiders should have grabbed Dresson … he was just sitting out there.
Gordon has potential if his hands get better. he too, hasn’t shown the ability to STAY ON THE FIELD, this year or last.
August 26th, 2012 at 2:28 pm
619.
Did any of those teams win the big one? Who did Eli have?
August 26th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
i would rather see Reece at TE, DMC lined up at receiver, with Jones in the backfield. that’ll make any defense go crazy trying to stop.
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Right?.. I thought Taiwan impressed on Friday. That is one high speed mofo.
August 26th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
620.
“Knapp loves throwing to TEs”???
HE WAS NOT THE OC IN HOUSTON
August 26th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 2:28 pm
Hahaha now people are blaming our tight ends for the offensive struggles?!!!?!?! Wow!!!
Sorry but o line & qb is where the offense starts & ends, both have been shabby so far
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515 yds of offense is difficult to equate with “shabby”
August 26th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
I thought i explained to you the other night Mistic, that all good QB’s have reliable TE’s. Palmer needs one to limit his mistakes. DB’s will be heavily focused on our speed demons, a TE that can find the open spots(like Zach Miller used to) even made JaBlubber look serviceable at times.
we currently have no consistent presence at TE. tell me i’m wrong. not saying our 3rd down and red zone struggles are all because of that, but it would certainly help.
tell me i’m wrong. thanks.
August 26th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
Caleb Hanie is looking better than Palmer.
August 26th, 2012 at 2:33 pm
Start with the ameture hour ints,
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OK, let’s start with the amateur hour ints. He has four. The lst went thru Fords hands, one was overthrown, one bounced off McGee’s hands, and one was caught off a screen. lst off, unlike Peyton, who has Decker, Dressen, Thomas and McGahee out there. Alex Smith is playing with Craptree, Moss, Davis, and Gore. Carson Palmer is playing with Ford, McGee, DHB, and Gordon. He is not playing with his number two receiver all preseason, his number three has been awful, and his starting TE has not played. And let’s not forget his center has not played. So, basically, it is DHB, Dmac and Palmer out there. And you are not going to use Dmac. So, basically you have Palmer out there.
August 26th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
Plunketthead Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
Bodhi goji og
Dr gt bubba og
eskos chocolate rain
Thats my current faorite ice cream flavors
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LOL.
Plunk, you just made a lot more sense than a whole lot of other posters on here.
August 26th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
HANIE IS GIONG AGAINST 4th STRINGERS…
people truly don’t know the meaning of practice games, do they?
so Pryor is a Cam Newton because of what he did against scrubs last night? give me a fuggin break.
August 26th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
what they need is a move the chains TE, and they will be unstoppable. Knapp loves throwing to TE’s, so i’m willing to believe he has a game plan, one that doesn’t involve the 3 he has on the roster currently.
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Didn’t Myers have 5 catches last night?
August 26th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
Yep he is making me look like negrodamuas
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Negrodamus? Haha. Good one.
August 26th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
630.
truth
August 26th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
Our OL is a major concern. Granted Wis has not been playing but he is hardly a proven veteran.
Brisiel was up against some tough guys but he was looking weak in pass protection.
August 26th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
xraided Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
HANIE IS GIONG AGAINST 4th STRINGERS…
people truly don’t know the meaning of practice games, do they?
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See post #524
August 26th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
Myers is a TE that can move the chains.He won’t give you the big play though.We’re good with Myers starting with Gordon and Ausberry backing them up-FOR NOW.Next year we can upgrade.
August 26th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
well yes, except that Bush. Myers was looking decent last night. he just has too many drops. he’s a backup TE in this league. i’d trust him there. we need Zach Miller back in here, or another that could match the kind of production he used to have for the silver&black.
August 26th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
PlunkforHOF Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 2:28 pm
Hahaha now people are blaming our tight ends for the offensive struggles?!!!?!?! Wow!!!
Sorry but o line & qb is where the offense starts & ends, both have been shabby so far
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515 yds of offense is difficult to equate with “shabby”
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Yards mean nothing with out touchdowns. You win by scoring points, not accumulating yardage stats. The turn overs are also in a word shabby
August 26th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
so Pryor is a Cam Newton because of what he did against scrubs last night? give me a fuggin break
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Pryor is a 3rd string QB and played against a 3rd string defense last night. I thought he did pretty well.
August 26th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
why wait until next year though Lefty? we want to win now!
we’ll see what Reggie does after tomorrow when the first round of cuts come.
smart money says he’s looking at TE.
August 26th, 2012 at 2:40 pm
Palmers the Raiders Qb…. He’s gonna be the QB sept 10th….and he’s gonna light the Chargers up…..no use ragging about him till it counts …unless you just wanna rag on him….
Allen’s days he has no Doubts about Palmer….I agree with Allen ..
August 26th, 2012 at 2:40 pm
Twocents Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
Our OL is a major concern. Granted Wis has not been playing but he is hardly a proven veteran.
Brisiel was up against some tough guys but he was looking weak in pass protection.
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Actually, our offensive line is playing better than I expected.
There was only one sack in the game against a good Detroit defense and in the two previous games there were no penalties.
August 26th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
Allen Says”.. ( 643)
August 26th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 2:33 pm
Start with the ameture hour ints,
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OK, let’s start with the amateur hour ints. He has four. The lst went thru Fords hands, one was overthrown, one bounced off McGee’s hands, and one was caught off a screen. lst off, unlike Peyton, who has Decker, Dressen, Thomas and McGahee out there. Alex Smith is playing with Craptree, Moss, Davis, and Gore. Carson Palmer is playing with Ford, McGee, DHB, and Gordon. He is not playing with his number two receiver all preseason, his number three has been awful, and his starting TE has not played. And let’s not forget his center has not played. So, basically, it is DHB, Dmac and Palmer out there. And you are not going to use Dmac. So, basically you have Palmer out there.
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While I can appreciate your faith in Palmer to a degree, I feel you are putting too much stock in deriding the weapons at his disposal. He must stop throwing picks to d line men, & failing to acknowledge his own struggles
August 26th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
Come on X,Myers doesn’t have a lot of drops,very few actually.
August 26th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
RforL,
i liked what i saw from him. i’m not trying to take anything away from the kid. he has some serious potential, and i always knew that.
If Carson fails or gets hurt, i want to see a TP kind of offense like Knapp used to run in ATL with Vick. only DMC SH!TS ON DUNN! that’s the difference there!
i’m just stating my opinion of when certain rookies look incredible with #2 and #3’s mostly on the field, people love to make serious assumptions on what they’ll look like throughout the regular season. it just changes so much when you play through the 3rd and 4th quarters.
August 26th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
Isn’t Zach Miller one hit away from getting air lifted to the funny farm? I liked him alot when he was with the Raiders but no thanks to Miller.
August 26th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
My Locks:
QB: Palmer, Leinart, Pryor (performance proved he’s a keeper),
RB: McFadden, Jones (could be our starter next year as DMac is a free agent).
FB: Reece, Schmitt
TE: Meyrs, Gordon
OT: Vehldeer, Barnes (could be the best tackle combo in the NFL),
OG: Brisiel, Bergstrom, Carlisle (could put Wisniewski at the front of this pack if allen really likes having Parsons at center).
C : Wisniewski, Parsons
ST: Lechler, (Condo could be a casualty if the raiders need to carmona for a few games until jano is healthy)
DT: Seymour, Kelley, Bryant, Biloduki, Cumbie (one may be traded, but none will be cut).
DE: Shaughnessy, Houston, Tollefson (crawford more than likely, but not a lock, at least practice squad if survives waivers),
OLB: Wheeler, Burris, Ihenacho, Kilgore (screw it, he’s gotta be a lock- original content to follow), (Curry if healthy, would not be surprised if Kilgore also- hope so),
MLB: McClain, Goethel
S: Branch, Huff, Mitchell, Giordano,
CB: Spencer, Bartell, Chekwa
That’s 16 offensive positions locked,
one special teams,
21 on defense for 38 total plus a PK; that leaves 14 positions open; althoguh I’m sure GM, HC, and assistants know who the top 50-53 are.
August 26th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
RR
Are you picking on me again?
You think Bush is a bad pick?
I got him in round ten
Did you see the numbers Bush put up last year?
If Forte goes down Bush will slug it out again. Plus he will be the GL back.
August 26th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
I like the new rules that take points away from the QB and the RB.
August 26th, 2012 at 2:45 pm
ok he had one last night, and bobbled the crap out of another.
yes i’m being harsh on him and maybe he’ll make me eat my words… i would just like someone seasoned and reliable at finding the open spots.
whether or not CP3 is ANY GOOD THIS SEASON, having a safety valve for a TE undoubtedly help him to make less mistakes. CHECK DOWN TO THE TE! Wittten and CryRivers’s bread n butter is Witten and Gates. without them..(like Rivers was without Gates a lot last year which resulted in 20 picks), they aren’t half as effective.
August 26th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
Hanie was going against the 1st team D when he took over in the 1st.
Look I’m just busting CP’s balls. I realize half his INTs weren’t his fault. I realize it’s only preseason. But the fact remains he hasn’t looked sharp and seems slow back there in the pocket. I’m still rooting for the guy though and will be his biggest fan come Monday night against SD.
August 26th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
Raiders For Life Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
Isn’t Zach Miller one hit away from getting air lifted to the funny farm? I liked him alot when he was with the Raiders but no thanks to Miller.
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you are probably correct. a very late round conditional pick to the seachunks should do it. they have Winslow, who had over 700 yards receiving last year. that’s their guy. Zach should be on the chopping block with that contract.
i guess his concussion issues and that bloated of a contract makes him not worth looking at.
just miss his production, even with JaBackFat slinging the ball over his head, he would have STICK’EMS for hands. he knew how to find open spots in the flat, even with HORRID RECEIVERS around him. remember that?
August 26th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
xraided Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
RforL,
i liked what i saw from him. i’m not trying to take anything away from the kid. he has some serious potential, and i always knew that.
If Carson fails or gets hurt, i want to see a TP kind of offense like Knapp used to run in ATL with Vick. only DMC SH!TS ON DUNN! that’s the difference there!
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Vick and Pryor are not the same kind of player. Vick has always been a much more accurate passer than Pryor has shown. Both can run tho…
August 26th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
yes well if you didn’t notice redshirt, the first team niners D is looking nothing like they do in the regular season. you see #52 out there? #55 is looking better than he is out there. just shows you how meaningless preseason really is, all around.
August 26th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
I liked what I saw of Jones but can he last more than a couple of games?
I still think we need a durable backup.
August 26th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
oops forgot WRs, I was trying to figure out why I had so many positions still available:
WR locks; Moore, DHB, Ford, Streater, Criner if healthy all five will be active each game.
6th spot open for Mcgee, Carswell, T.O., Chad, ….lol just kidding;
would not be a bit surprised if they try to move Ausberry back to WR and get him to lose some weight again, which should not be difficult) and pick up another TE.
probably be a FA pick up that is a special teamer (gunner or returner).
that makes 21 on O, 21 on D, two STs (whoever the PK is), 44 spots taken
therefore 9 positions up for grabs, barring FA pickups and trades for draft picks.
August 26th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
haven’t seen the other half of the bash brothers in this game either… that being Navarro Bowman.
you all really think the Donko’s will look this good? i’m willing to bet they won’t, especially when Manning starts getting CRUNCHED 10 times a game… he’ll start to get scared to stay in the pocket, then it’s over for him.
August 26th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
Needs:
TE, power back, OT (Starters are great, not sold on Barksdale as backup), CB (even if Bartell and Spencer play well this year, they have mileage), dare I say kicker/punter (need nurses for all their injuries)
August 26th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
Raiders 28, San Diego 10 on opening Monday Night Football.
August 26th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
that’s debatable Seymour,
Pryor looked pretty accurate last night with the few throws he had. even he isn’t satisfied with those passes i realize, but he can certainly reach a level of Vick in ATL given he has a couple more years to ride pine and learn better mechanics.
that’s the point here. i don’t expect an ATL kind of offense right now, unless it was the absolute last resort. hey, we’re one big QB sack away from it. lord knows Leinart will get hurt after 2 games tops if he were to come in to start. *knock on wood*
August 26th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
England Raider
Do you like those flavors?
August 26th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
with what Pryor showed even against backups, he may be ready earlier than 3 years down the road. his pocket presence and time management were big time question marks, and he seemed to have a better grasp of it. i’m willing to believe it was 20 months of rust he was shaking off the last couple of games.
the coaches probably told him to just do what ever it took to score last game, and that meant boot legging out of the pocket with those 4.3 wheels and heaving it down the field. he agreed and made it a reality last night.
August 26th, 2012 at 3:01 pm
Baggies baby, Baggies!
“Win, lose or tie….Baggie Nation til you die!”
August 26th, 2012 at 3:01 pm
While I can appreciate your faith in Palmer to a degree, I feel you are putting too much stock in deriding the weapons at his disposal. He must stop throwing picks to d line men, & failing to acknowledge his own struggles
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That may be the fairest comment that you’ve made about Palmer.
His first pick was just a pathetic thing that shouldn’t have been thrown.
The second one though was not his fault.
Prior also had a pick Supavillain with 12.45 left in the fourth quarter which was only cancelled out due to an unrelated penalty.
Having said that, the kid did good.
I’m not impressed by the run 59 yard run-a back can do that-but I was real pleased with those two passes of 39 and 76 yards.
Very nice.
August 26th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
666
August 26th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
we have barely talked about the most consistent part of the Raider’s play this pre season, and that’s been the run D. we had a small sample size thus far, and we’ve seen them be like this in practice games of the past, but it’s about time we boast a middle of the pack kind of defense.
TK needs to stop jumping off sides and reaching for face masks though. same with the rest of the DL. 2 encroachment penalties last night that would have been 3rd and longs… ridiculous mistakes that DA didn’t take kindly to.
August 26th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
Vick’s completion %s in ATL:
44.2, 54.9, 50.0, 56.4, 55.3, 52.6
meh… avg at best.
August 26th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
Plunketthead Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
England Raider
Do you like those flavors?
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I’m not even a big icecream fan Plunk.
I just thought your comment made a lot more sense than some of the other stuff being posted tonight.
August 26th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
xraided Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
that’s debatable Seymour,
Pryor looked pretty accurate last night with the few throws he had. even he isn’t satisfied with those passes i realize, but he can certainly reach a level of Vick in ATL given he has a couple more years to ride pine and learn better mechanics.
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I would certainly would debate you on this. The lst TD to Criner was actually a poorly thrown pass that Criner really made a nice play on. That ball was waaay underthrown to Criner, not laid out for him. The second pass to Criner was better, it hit Criner in stride, but still off Criners shoe tops. Criner REALLY made those two plays. And, Pryor had a very bad pick negated by penalty that most fans are never going to remember.
On the other hand, Mike Vick was always a remarkably accurate passer. That is why he was a consensus overall number one. Teams knew they would not have to develop that. Now, that accuracy has not always translated statistically. Most coaches have wanted Mike to stand in there and heave the rock. And when Mike has done that, he has done well, but Mike likes to run around to the chagrin of his coaches. And that sometimes takes away from his accuracy, and their game plans.
August 26th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
Next up versus the Baggies, Everton.
http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/matchday/matches/2012-2013/epl.html/west-brom-vs-everton
August 26th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
No the atl knapp offense would do Pryor no favors. He would be much better in a spread shotgun that relied on intermediate passing misdirection, & the occasinal deep shot More like the offense that tebow ran last year
August 26th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
redshirt Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
Vick’s completion %s in ATL:
44.2, 54.9, 50.0, 56.4, 55.3, 52.6
meh… avg at best.
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Not even average. But there are reasons for that.
August 26th, 2012 at 3:10 pm
I still think Pryor is going to be the #3 QB and as such he will be inactive on game day.
If he would work as a reciever in practice and still take his limited snaps as the #3 QB, he would have a chance to be active when our recievers get banged up.
The guy has too much talent to sit around on game day doing nothing.
August 26th, 2012 at 3:10 pm
RR
Are you picking on me again?
You think Bush is a bad pick?
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@Plunk
that was Dell!
August 26th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
Mike’s INT percentage is basically about where guys like Brees and Peyton’s career INT% is.
August 26th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
ENGLAND,
i liked the run(s) because it displayed how fast those wheels are. a defender had him WRAPPED, and he was able to shake out of it and out run the defense to the sideline the very next play.
as soon as he gets his mechanics down to a tee and can show us touch passes on short routes(on the run and in the pocket), that man will be very hard to stop.
Seymour,
about Vick in ATL, he had a lot of accuracy issues. he NEVER REACHED 60% COMP. in his 5 years in ATL. nadda once! Palmer even did that was for us in 9.5 games last year with some putrid decision making.
August 26th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
correction: Vick didn’t reach the 60% completion mark in 3 full seasons in ATL that he was actually healthy.
August 26th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
No the atl knapp offense would do Pryor no favors. He would be much better in a spread shotgun that relied on intermediate passing misdirection, & the occasinal deep shot More like the offense that tebow ran last year
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Wind back to the game vs SD at SD last year. That is the Palmer we got if Knapp allows him to unleash his strength. IE, no huddle, spread WRs’, play fake, and CP3 is a pocket passer. Knapp very well could be the problem, not Palmer.
August 26th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
Mike is also like 55-35 as a starter in this league. That ain’t bad.
August 26th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
Tarvaris Jackson traded to Buffalo.Looks like either V. Young or Fitzpatrick is in trouble.
August 26th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
Vick’s completion %s in ATL:
44.2, 54.9, 50.0, 56.4, 55.3, 52.6
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Seymour Bush Says:
Not even average. But there are reasons for that.
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Uhm, yeah that Vick was extremely inaccurate coming out of College.
I remember him sailing passes over people’s heads and throwing at their feet.
August 26th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
Tarvaris Jackson traded to Buffalo.Looks like either V. Young or Fitzpatrick is in trouble.
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Young and/or Thigpen = out!
August 26th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
Hi Everybody. Long time listener now first time caller. Raiders 19-0 this year. I bet the farm on it.
August 26th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
Wind back to the game vs SD at SD last year. That is the Palmer we got if Knapp allows him to unleash his strength. IE, no huddle, spread WRs’, play fake, and CP3 is a pocket passer. Knapp very well could be the problem, not Palmer.
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The only real issue with Carson Palmer is he will throw picks. And if you break down those picks, a lot of them come on the short routes. Like the screen pass yesterday. Palmer and the offense should be focusing on intermediate to longer patterns which Palmer throws remarkably well.
August 26th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
That kick by Carmona was pretty good.
56 yards and kicking on the A’s infield. Not bad.
On top of that the infield had been messed up some.
Not that it matters to the A’s since they’re not going anywhere.
August 26th, 2012 at 3:19 pm
Twocents Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 3:10 pm
I still think Pryor is going to be the #3 QB and as such he will be inactive on game day.
If he would work as a reciever in practice and still take his limited snaps as the #3 QB, he would have a chance to be active when our recievers get banged up.
The guy has too much talent to sit around on game day doing nothing.
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Terrible idea
1. He would be robbed of a chance to develop as a qb wasting time in we meetings & missing qb meetings/ practice.
2. He has never been anyhthing other than a qb his whole life. He couldn’t be expected to learn a new position in 1 pre season game & a live nfl season.
3. It stunts the growth of qbs see morsels Stewart brad smith & joe Webb.
4. He will never get ahead if the quality wrs we have on this roster. You would be taking a real wr off the field to force a convert project.
He is qb nothing more, let him sink or swim at his natural position
August 26th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
Bob Marley Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
Vick’s completion %s in ATL:
44.2, 54.9, 50.0, 56.4, 55.3, 52.6
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Seymour Bush Says:
Not even average. But there are reasons for that.
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Uhm, yeah that Vick was extremely inaccurate coming out of College.
I remember him sailing passes over people’s heads and throwing at their feet.
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Huh? Mike Vick lead the entire NCAA in passing efficiency. As a freshman.
August 26th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
10-4 RR
My mistake.
Wow The commish is on my arse.
Thats what I get for misbehaving
August 26th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
I hate the infield…
Seatle just traded QB jackson to Buffallo
August 26th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
Carson Palmer didn’t change teams this offseason, but he might has well have. Palmer is learning a new offense in Oakland once again, and he’s not a natural fit for Oakland Raiders offensive coordinator Greg Knapp’s timing West Coast offense. It has showed this preseason.
Facing a banged-up Detroit Lions secondary, Palmer struggled again Saturday night with two interceptions. He has averaged under six yards per attempt in 58 preseason throws with no scores and four picks overall. His top receivers Denarius Moore and Jacoby Ford might miss Week 1. Palmer does not look comfortable. He might have had a cameo in Oakland last year, but it sure looks like he’s starting from scratch because of the coaching change.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000055013/article/lessons-learned-from-saturdays-preseason-games?module=HP11_content_stream
Its all on knapp. CP3 haters, leave. Go home.
August 26th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
Who in the hell let T. Bradshaw out of the studio? He’s running a muck up in the booth.
August 26th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
Adam Schefter
Seattle has agreed to trade QB Tarvaris Jackson to Buffalo for a draft pick, but Bills and Jackson still trying to finalize new contract.
August 26th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
redshirt Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
Who in the hell let T. Bradshaw out of the studio? He’s running a muck up in the booth.
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The ghost of Chuck Noll
August 26th, 2012 at 3:33 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
Bob Marley Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
Vick’s completion %s in ATL:
44.2, 54.9, 50.0, 56.4, 55.3, 52.6
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Seymour Bush Says:
Not even average. But there are reasons for that.
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Uhm, yeah that Vick was extremely inaccurate coming out of College.
I remember him sailing passes over people’s heads and throwing at their feet.
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Huh? Mike Vick lead the entire NCAA in passing efficiency. As a freshman.
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Yeah, that’s why he wasn’t even close to cracking the 60% completion mark during his first 6 seasons as a Pro.
August 26th, 2012 at 3:33 pm
Twocents Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 3:10 pm
I still think Pryor is going to be the #3 QB and as such he will be inactive on game day.
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No doubt.
Pryor is fortunate. He’s playing behind a really good QB who can teach him a lot and he knows it.
But he is the number three quarterback with a lot to learn.
You have to admire Prior’s motivation.
Everyone keeps telling him to be a tight end and he just keeps on insisting that he wants to be a QB.
The kid’s got grit.
August 26th, 2012 at 3:34 pm
*Pryor.
August 26th, 2012 at 3:37 pm
Rock Cartright for 39yds.I’m gonna niss that guy.
August 26th, 2012 at 3:37 pm
Yeah, that’s why he wasn’t even close to cracking the 60% completion mark during his first 6 seasons as a Pro.
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quick, name all his weapons and all the all pro Olinemen he had in the ATL.
August 26th, 2012 at 3:37 pm
I yell “Cotwright? Cotwriiight?!” just like that. Nobody came up, I hang up.
August 26th, 2012 at 3:38 pm
or miss,actually
August 26th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
It breaks me up when some of you guys come in here and criticize one player. Football is the ultimate team game. It is not like baseball where you have a one on one matchup most of the time.
August 26th, 2012 at 3:42 pm
Watching the Raider defense just beat the crap out of Namath.Makes you wonder just how good some of those old guys would have been playing by todays p^ssy rules.
August 26th, 2012 at 3:43 pm
DAMMMMM YOU GHOST OF CHUCK NOLL
*shakesfist*
August 26th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
Bush.
Ok, everybody knows he didn’t have an All-Star supporting cast outside of Alge Crumpler, it’s still not an excuse for averaging 52 percent completion percentage for 6 seasons.
August 26th, 2012 at 3:48 pm
Myers is a gamer. No he can’t give you a big Jommy Graham play; but how many TEs can? Myers was out there every week ready to battle last year too; & his durability shouldn’t be questioned.
August 26th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
Myers is a gamer. No he can’t give you a big Jommy Graham play; but how many TEs can? Myers was out there every week ready to battle last year too; & his durability shouldn’t be questioned.
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I like Myers alot. Reminds me of Zach, who he learned from. Myers took alot of notes from Kevin Boss as well. Not sure how well he blocks yet, Haven’t seen enough of that.
I’m not sure why Myers doesn’t get much love, maybe because he’s not a household name. I think he will be solid and would be my MUP pick.
August 26th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
Myers is just an average tight end.
Al didn’t bring him in to replace Zach Miller, he brought him in because he was a good blocker.
Al didn’t want Miller to go but he thought he could sign him cheap and Al blew that one.
August 26th, 2012 at 4:00 pm
Myers isn’t flashy so some don’t give him any credit.He just goes out and does his job-blocks and catches what is thrown to him.Miller was let go,Boss was let go but Myers is still here.That should tell you something.
August 26th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
Henry tweeted he got cut.
August 26th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
When was the last time CP connected with his TE for five complete passes in a game?
That bodes real well especially when you throw Reese into the mix. Lots of weapons out of the backfield,.
Hopefully Myers stepd up his game this year
August 26th, 2012 at 4:05 pm
lefty12 Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 3:42 pm
Watching the Raider defense just beat the crap out of Namath.Makes you wonder just how good some of those old guys would have been playing by todays p^ssy rules.
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LOL.
Yes indeed.
What would Jack Tatum make of it all.
Not to mention mad dog Matusak, Hendricks, and a whole bunch of other Raiders-and a lot of guys like Mean Joe Greene from other teams.
August 26th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
Somebody mentioned how ugly Denver’s uniform is…almost as bad as Cincy’s.
I actually think the seahwk uniforms are pretty cool.
Raiders still the best.
My fave? The throwback road jerseys they wore on Thanksgiving against Dallas couple yrs. back.
I guess the league banned us from wearing them anymore?
August 26th, 2012 at 4:16 pm
Brett Favre was just intercepted in celebrity flag football.
August 26th, 2012 at 4:17 pm
Denver’s first half sched looks tough.
August 26th, 2012 at 4:18 pm
Myers really struggles getting open due to lack of athleticism. sure he has good hands but what good does that do if you can’t get open often
August 26th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
Everybody Wang cut tonight! Everybody Wang cut tonight! Ed Wang was just released.
August 26th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
Chaz Powell cut also.
August 26th, 2012 at 4:23 pm
On NFLN last night Fran Charles said “Raider fans here ya go. You’ve been telling us to talk more Raiders and here we’ve got two former Raiders Michael Lombardi and Warren Sapp”. Sapp smiled and said something about “yeah i was with the Raiders”.
Talk about two guys who are not representative of former Raiders…
It’s funny, with the Raiders; our former reps and players hate us…and from judging alot of posts on this blog…a great deal of their own fans do.
August 26th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
718-False.He gets open and he catches the ball well.What he won’t do is break a 50 yd run after the catch.
August 26th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
DJ,ain’t that the truth.
August 26th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
Jason @raiderdawg71
If Rock gets cut by the Niners should the Raiders try to bring him back to help awful special teams? $justwinbaby
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August 26th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
Anyone got their (/)Palmer – Hire Pryor t-shirts made up yet?……
Remember, if any of you yea hoos start selling them, I get a royalty check…lol..
August 26th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
You Palmer “critics” (notice how I didn’t say haters) should tune in to NFLN. Coming uo they’re gonna do a segment called “QB Concerns”? Focusing on Carson Palmer and if “it’s time to panic in Oakland?”
August 26th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
August 26th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
You Palmer “critics” (notice how I didn’t say haters) should tune in to NFLN. Coming uo they’re gonna do a segment called “QB Concerns”? Focusing on Carson Palmer and if “it’s time to panic in Oakland?”
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Just saw that. Should be interesting.
August 26th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
Rip fest on Palmer coming up next on NFLN.
August 26th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
what’d they say about Palmer?
August 26th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
Pretty fair analysis on that segment I thought.
It IS a little alarming the (amt of int’s)…but like McGinest said “He’s a veteran. He’ll get it together”.
It is true we can’t just ignore the int’s, but i think Carson and Knapp need to get together ..and DA…heck bring Reg in too, and design this offense to fit Palmer’s skills and abilities.
August 26th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
They brought up the possibility his “issues” stem from receivers, new system, etc. but brought up the int #’s and asked McGinest and whoever that other doofus is if it’s cause for concern.
It wasn’t a slam fest but it brought up valid concerns.
August 26th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
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August 26th, 2012 at 8:10 pm
But whatever the politics, a total submission to them is a disservice to the country. No one knows this better than 0bama himself, who one described patriotism as more than pageantry and scarfing of hotdogs, “when our laws, our leaders, or our govt are out of alignment with our ideals, then the dissent of ordinary Americans may prove to be the truest form of patriotism.
Love of country, like all form of love, requires that you tell those that you care about, not simply want they want to hear, but what they need to hear.
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Hear that Raider Nation
August 27th, 2012 at 12:44 am
“I’m just happy for him,” said Palmer, who’s in his 10th NFL season. “Proud of him.”
“He’s like a big brother,” Pryor said.
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What a croc of crap! Palmer should just pack his bags and leave! As long as Gannon keeps TP on the move, the season salvageable. Fired spuds if he keeps Palmer and Leinart!