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Wiz out for final game, Moore ‘closer’ to returning

By Steve Corkran
Sunday, August 26th, 2012 at 4:23 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Raiders coach Dennis Allen said Sunday afternoon that he is inclined to play anyone that is healthy in his team’s exhibition finale against the Seattle Seahawks, a break from the norm in the NFL, when teams typically rest their projected starters.
Even so, you won’t see starting center Stefen Wisniewski play against the Seattle Seahawks on Thursday night. Allen said as much Sunday.
It’s possible that wide receiver Denarius Moore’s hamstring injury will be healthy enough for him to play in that game. If not, Allen said he is confident that Moore will be ready to play in the regular-season opener Sept. 10.
Those are just a few of the nuggets gleaned from a 15-plus minute conference call with coach Allen on Sunday. Here’s a sampling of Allen’s thoughts on his players and their progress:

– Kicker Sebastian Janikowski’s groin injury isn’t “a big deal,” Allen said. That’s the hope, at least.
Allen said Janikowski suffered “basically a sore groin” while attempting to run down Justin Miller on a kick return Saturday. Heck, there’s even a chance of Janikowski playing against the Seahawks.
The smart money says, Allen holds out Janikowski, lets Eddy Carmona handle the kicking duties and gives Janikowski as much time as possible to heal in time for the opener.

– Wide receiver Jacoby Ford (left foot) now is able to walk around pain-free without the protective boot that he has sported since he got injured against the Cardinals.
“So, we’re making some progress there,” Allen said.
Ford still is using the boot from time to time, though. It’s doubtful that Ford will heal in time for the Seahawks game. The bigger question is, will he be recovered in time for the regular-season opener.

– Allen said defensive tackle Richard Seymour has what amounts to arthritis in one of his knees, which makes it imperative that the Raiders take it easy on their defensive leader.
“it’s more of a maintenance deal with Richard,” Allen said. “He’s got some arthritis, basically, in his knee. So, he gets a little pain, a little swelling, we got to be able to manage that.”
Seymour has missed every practice since he played against the Arizona Cardinals on Aug. 17. He also sat out the Lions game.
Seymour didn’t seem too concerned about the situation when asked about it Thursday. These veterans have a way of knowing when to crank it up. This is not the time.

– Already, names of players being cut by the Raiders in advance of the first mandatory cutdown are surfing on Twitter.
Safety Aaron Henry Tweeted that he has been informed of his release. Fellow safety Chaz Powell also was released, according to league insider Aaron Wilson.
The Raiders, as well as other teams, are required to be at no more than 75 players by Monday afternoon. I am told that the Raiders expect to issue a press release with the first round of player cuts later this afternoon.

– Cornerbacks DeMarcus Van Dyke and Chimdi Chekwa shouldn’t feel too secure about making the 53-man roster this season. Certainly not on the heels of Allen’s most-recent assessment about their play Saturday night.
“They were young corners,” Allen said in repsonse to what he saw. “We got to continue to work to get better with those guys. They do some good things and then all of a sudden you look up and say, ‘Why did they do that?’ I’m not totally down on them, but we got to get better there. We got to keep improving.”
Van Dyke and Chekwa were being groomed as the heir apparents to Stanford Routt and Chris Johnson last season. Now, they are being pushed by Allen just to show marked improvement.

– Once again, Allen kept in check his praise of second-year quarterback Terrelle Pryor, instead leaving it to fans and others to gush without taking into account the big picture.
Then again, that’s standard practice for a savvy coach that is hesitant to build up a player too soon for fear of that player feeling as if he has arrived.
“He did good,” Allen said after watching tape of the game and getting a better feel for Pryor’s play against the Lions. “Obviously, he had his good plays and he had his bad plays, but the thing that I was impressed with and the thing that I took out of the game is there was progress. There was progress on his part.”
Allen raved about Pryor’s improvement in calling out the plays in a prompt manner, controlling the huddle and the way he executed plays.

– Of the four pre-snap penalties committed by the Raiders in the first quarter Saturday, don’t blame the refs, Allen said.
“Every single one of them was a legitimate call,” Allen said. “Every single one of them was inexcusable on our part, and we can’t have those. We can’t have the pre-snap penalties, especially the two where we lined up offsides on defense. We can’t do that. That’s a lack of focus, that’s a lack of discipline. Those issues will be addressed and, as players, we’ve got to get it corrected.”

– Worried about the Raiders special teams play so far? Well, so is Allen. With that said, Allen doesn’t sound as concerned as many others.
“It’s obviously a concern,” Allen said. “We’ve got to be better in that area. Part of it is the fact that we’ve had a lot of different people playing a lot of different positions in the return game. We’ve had different returners back there returning. We haven’t had a lot of continuity as far as who those guys have been but, at the same time, we’ve got to execute better.
“A lot of times it’s one or two guys that keep you from having a good play, and you’re tackled inside your 15-yard line as opposed to, if you get your one block, maybe it’s a big return or if the returner reads it right maybe it’s a big return. We’re closer than what the stats say, but we’ve got to be better in that regard.”
Punter Shane Lechler said last week that special teams is something that takes time to work out for the very reasons Allen pointed out.
“Special teams is tough during the preseason,” Lechler said. “You’re sitting in a room with a whole bunch of guys that aren’t going to be there. It’s a grind. It’s just part of the process.”
In other words, give it time, folks, before calling for radical changes and coaching moves.

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413 Responses to “Wiz out for final game, Moore ‘closer’ to returning”

  1. lefty12 Says:

    Raiders

  2. big pep Says:

    Dos

  3. damujb Says:

    palmer needs too be better i thought he was but i still dont miss jason

  4. damujb Says:

    palmer leads qb in picks i hope he is not the reason we dont get to the next level d looks good rb look good palmer and special teams seem to be are weakness. and i wanted palmer now i dont know what to think

  5. alex7 Says:

    Lefty, Myers struggles with separating from coverage arent even debatable, they have been mentioned by NFL coaches and scouts. he simply lacks the athleticism to consistently separate.

    If he didn’t struggle with this he’d be a legit TE putting up 50 catches per season like every other legit tight end

  6. lefty12 Says:

    Allen on Wiz getting his starting job back once he is healthy-nothings promised.

  7. big pep Says:

    No T.Ds for Palmer all preseason yet, I for one am getting nervous

  8. alex7 Says:

    Damujb

    If we don’t make the playoffs this year it will be for the same reasons as last year: no quality corner backs, lack of depth at LB, and an injured running back

  9. cfrylopez Says:

    http://archive.constantcontact.com/fs090/1101193641895/archive/1110790584967.html

    Come to City Hall Monday, Aug. 27, @ 11:00am in Raiders &A’s gear or colors for the official press conference of “Oakland Loves Its Sports Teams Week”. It’s going down next month in Oakland with the Andrea Ward fight at the Coliseum, The A’s vs. Orioles Series for the Wild Card & The Raiders Opener on Monday Night Football!!! Come support Save Oakland Sports and the City of Oakland’s efforts to focus the sports world’s attention on Oakland. Help the fight to keep the Raiders and A’s here in Oakland. If you can’t go to the press conference please invite someone you think can go. Let’s Go Oakland and Go Raiders!

  10. redshirt Says:

    scouring roster cuts for backup C

  11. lefty12 Says:

    Myers gets open.He doesn’t get great separation,but he gets open enough to get the pass there.He won’t get a lot of yards after the catch because he lacks the speed,but when you need a pass across the middle,he’ll get you the 1st down.My opinion.If you don’t agree,fine,I don’t care.

  12. alex7 Says:

    Pep

  13. CoopeRaider Says:

    Hope there are some decent RB, CB, LB, and TE out there after cuts are made…we definitely need some depth.

  14. Raider Riff Says:

    SeaBass is ok? My concerns are settled.

    Interesting take on the special teams problems. Im going to try and relax.

    Bring on the Dolts.

  15. devilr8er Says:

    In Knapps offense the TE is crucial, seems like the Ausberry experiment is all hype.

  16. Raider Riff Says:

    Lefty12 Says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
    Allen on Wiz getting his starting job back once he is healthy-nothings promised.

    ———

    WOW. He really said that?

    That is interesting. Does that mean we move Wiz back to the LG position?

  17. lefty12 Says:

    That was from Jerry so I assume he said it.I also assume it means they really like Parsons.

  18. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    We can’t do that. That’s a lack of focus, that’s a lack of discipline. Those issues will be addressed and, as players, we’ve got to get it corrected.”
    “““““““““““““““““““““““““““`
    Since DA isn’t allowed to fine the players. Maybe having them run a few gassers is in order…..

  19. Raidernationdave Says:

    19th

  20. Raidernationdave Says:

    Twenty is funny, stick it in her bunny!

  21. Raidernationdave Says:

    Twenty one in the sun, hope she don’t weigh a ton

  22. Raidernationdave Says:

    twenty two and in school, watch her ass when I spew

  23. Raidernationdave Says:

    That’s what happens when a fat-ass kicker tries to do too much.

    ++++++++++++++++++++

    – Kicker Sebastian Janikowski’s groin injury isn’t “a big deal,” Allen said. That’s the hope, at least.
    Allen said Janikowski suffered “basically a sore groin” while attempting to run down Justin Miller on a kick return Saturday. Heck, there’s even a chance of Janikowski playing against the Seahawks.
    The smart money says, Allen holds out Janikowski, lets Eddy Carmona handle the kicking duties and gives Janikowski as much time as possible to heal in time for the opener.

  24. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Wisniewski back at left guard, I posted/proposed that here, on s&bp, and live chat with Guitierez (yesterday) a couple days ago.

    Parsons has played well, Wisniewski one of the best guards; all-rookie

    Makes sense

  25. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    Levi Damien @LeviDamien 2h
    Allen on Wisniewski getting his starting job back when he’s healthy “Nothing’s promised”
    “““““““““““““““““““““““““““`
    Guess Parsons is getting the job done, well enough for DA any ways…

  26. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Colin Miller has been okay with 2nd and 3rd teams, could make 53 man roster based on need, expect him to be on practice squad, will definately survive first cuts as we will need him for Seattle game, one more chance to prove he deserves to make the final roster.

    I never have a problem with team having 10 OLinemen on the final roster.

  27. Twocents Says:

    From profootballfocus.com “While replacement center Alex Parsons didn’t cover himself in glory on the Lions’ goal line, he wasn’t the biggest issue. Indeed, the problem here seemed to be that someone replaced Mike Brisiel’s cleets with skates, so often was he sliding backwards to his quarterback.”

  28. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    So they basically said everything on nfln that I have been saying about Palmer, only I don’t think it’s a slam dunk that he shakes is problems, in fact I think it’s down right dicey.

  29. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Alex Parsons is cool on the twitter. He seems like a funny and cool guy. Klas would hang with him.

    Alex Parsons
    @A_Parsons67
    Producer of pure awesomeness, producer of one awesome beard, carnivore w/ sprinkles of vegatarian #RaiderNation #OaklandRaiders #USCTrojans #FightOn OL#67
    Orange County/Oakland

  30. Plunketthead Says:

    Briesel needs a HGH cocktail

  31. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Hope everyone takes a look at cam newton tonight, this the future of the nfl qb. Pay particular attention to how they run this offense. Even in vanilla form I can see where it utilizes cam unique talent to cause nightmares for the defense. When added to their two headed monster at rb speed on the outside & solid te play, they are one of the best offenses in football.

    I WOUKD LOVE TO SEE PRYOR IN THIS KIND OF ATTACK!!!

    It’s the kind of offense only certain guys can run, & we have one on our team

  32. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Plunketthead Says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
    Briesel needs a HGH cocktail
    ——-
    Should have kept Bruce Cambell.

  33. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Cam Newton couldn’t get a TD on first drive. He is overrated.

  34. realtruraider Says:

    27

    So the highest paid O-lineman is the weak link? I actually agree with this and saw the same thing not just on the goaline play, but on other running plays aswell, he seems to get pushed around alot, maybe thats why they call him a ZBS specialist. lol

  35. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Pryor may be Newtonesque in a year or two. Right now we have to roll with Palmer.

  36. DJ Johnny Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
    Cam Newton couldn’t get a TD on first drive. He is overrated.

    Where might I find this game? ESPN?

  37. realtruraider Says:

    DJ

    NBC

  38. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    DJ Johnny Says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
    Cam Newton couldn’t get a TD on first drive. He is overrated.

    Where might I find this game? ESPN?
    ———-
    Game is on NBC

  39. oldschoolraider Says:

    What the heck happened to Wiz? All the reports just say an injured calf. Was it bruised? You wouldn’t think it would take this long to heal. Was he run over by a friggin truck? It’s looking more and more like he won’t be ready for the season opener.

  40. RaiderDebo Says:

    Jet D looks fierce.

  41. realtruraider Says:

    Im going to watch Brisiel close tonight on the replay, if he’s not getting the job done put Coop back at RG and Wiz at LG with Parsons at center

  42. DJ Johnny Says:

    Thanks guys.

  43. big pep Says:

    I for one can tell what the hell Mistic1 is talking about, when he says things like Carolina and this special made O for kam. He runs when he can’t find an open w.r. What’s so special about that? I don’t think it’s wrong but I also don’t think it’s specially made O for kam.

  44. JB Says:

    Twocents Says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 5:17 pm

    From profootballfocus.com “While replacement center Alex Parsons didn’t cover himself in glory on the Lions’ goal line, he wasn’t the biggest issue. Indeed, the problem here seemed to be that someone replaced Mike Brisiel’s cleets with skates, so often was he sliding backwards to his quarterback.”
    *************************

    That’s the same problem with Carlisle. These ZBS linemen are smaller & lighter than the normal jumbo sized power blocking linemen. The ZBS linemen get pushed around more easily by the larger D linemen. They are not the best solution, IMO, for pass blocking.

  45. dondiraider Says:

    just one more item…FIRE HOFFMAN NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  46. realtruraider Says:

    dondiraider Says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
    just one more item…FIRE HOFFMAN NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    ——————————————————-

    co-signed

  47. realtruraider Says:

    Carlisle actually played alright in the power scheme last year, but I get what your sayin

  48. Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:

    Carson Palmer is a chucker and a ducker.

    Just Win Baby!

  49. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    Can TP6 play Right Guard?

    LOL TP6 For President

  50. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Big Pep Says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
    I for one can tell what the hell Mistic1 is talking about, when he says things like Carolina and this special made O for kam. He runs when he can’t find an open w.r. What’s so special about that? I don’t think it’s wrong but I also don’t think it’s specially made O for kam.
    …………..

    Pep,

    This is the vanilla version, but you will notice that this offend incorporates option principals & marries it with deep passing. In the regular season you will also see plenty of 3-4 wr sets & motions.

    Make no mistake only a handful of qb could ever dream of running this offense.

  51. RaiderRetribution Says:

    From the sound of it maybe Brisiel is not a lock, Knapp may want him, however with roster cuts/trades, Reggie has the final say.

    Teams are always looking for veteran linemen.

  52. JB Says:

    dondiraider Says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 5:39 pm

    just one more item…FIRE HOFFMAN NOW!

    *********************

    Hoffman has good credentials ad a rack record. Let him lock in on and coach the players who will end up as ST’ers. Right now there’s a bunch of guys who won’t even be on the team in a day or two. I guess I’m saying let’s not overact based on preseason results.

  53. big pep Says:

    Point taken Mistic, I’ll keep my eye out on them. I still think that T.P. needs more time.

  54. JB Says:

    Brisel isn’t going anywhere. He was their BIG FA pick-up. I don’t see Reggie making the sole decision on who stays & who goes. That’s something that Reggie, DA and the respective coordinator will decide on.

  55. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Happy Birthday, Mr. J. Condo from all of Raider Nation (including Bo S.)!

  56. JB Says:

    Brisel’s shortcomings in last nights game may have been due to Parson’s play. O-linemen work as a unit. They are only as good as the guy next to them.

  57. Twocents Says:

    McKenzie and Allen seem to be on the same page when it comes to the starters. Start veterans until the young guys prove that they are better.

  58. JB Says:

    That Lap-Band is really doing a job for Rex Ryan. He’s already down 105#’s. Good for him. He needs to get his brother Rob Ryan to get on board with the same program.

  59. Plunketthead Says:

    Mystic
    Which one of these teams has the new NFL dynamic offense? I am not seeing anything dynamic.

    TP > Cam

  60. DJ Johnny Says:

    Newton is 4-11 and a fumble.

  61. realtruraider Says:

    Hoffman has good credentials ad a rack record. Let him lock in on and coach the players who will end up as ST’ers. Right now there’s a bunch of guys who won’t even be on the team in a day or two. I guess I’m saying let’s not overact based on preseason results.

    ——————————————————

    Its a what have done lately league and his special teams were horrible at KC, at this point it looks the same here. What is his credentials and track record exactly? All I know is what he did to get fired last year in KC and it looks alot like what we are doing now on special teams

  62. DJ Johnny Says:

    Tebow Time….hahaha.

  63. Raidernationdave Says:

    I have several, huge bong rips waiting for me. 4 Car weekend. Holla!

  64. Twocents Says:

    “Special teams is tough during the preseason,” Lechler said. “You’re sitting in a room with a whole bunch of guys that aren’t going to be there. It’s a grind. It’s just part of the process.”
    Now, who are you going to listen to?
    Some kid that plays video games or a professional?

  65. Method To My Madness Says:

    Scam Newton= athlete not a QB who will win a title….yep I said it!

  66. Plunketthead Says:

    JFB is smiling :smile: Murphy just kick started the dynamic O

  67. Plunketthead Says:

    B
    Did you once say something about meeting a player/s reading this blog?

  68. realtruraider Says:

    Im going to listen to my gut, its not just one aspect of special teams that is bad its the unit as a whole, I blame that on coaching. blocked extra points, high snaps from a probowl long snapper, blocking is horrible as is coverage. I now understand what the KC fans were talkin bout, they laughin at us for picking him up

  69. Method To My Madness Says:

    Plunkett….Murphy will make some plays then fk up as well

    Panther fans bout to get a dose of reality this season….all that SB prediction schit will screw them over when they dont…their oline sucks..Cam isnt accurate and their D still sucks

  70. Method To My Madness Says:

    Plunketthead Says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 6:28 pm
    B
    Did you once say something about meeting a player/s reading this blog?
    **************************

    Players reading blog? I know the Raiders upper brass is aware of this blog….thats for sure

  71. Plunketthead Says:

    I remember reading that Veldheers dad was ablog fan.

    I was just curious

  72. MistaBrown Says:

    Seymour isn’t worried because he only shows up 3 games a year anyway so WTF

    “Seymour didn’t seem too concerned about the situation when asked about it Thursday. These veterans have a way of knowing when to crank it up. This is not the time”

  73. Method To My Madness Says:

    Yeah that wasnt me who said that but yeah someone else said that for sure…..shout out to Mr. Veldheer!

  74. Method To My Madness Says:

    MistaBrown Says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 6:33 pm
    Seymour isn’t worried because he only shows up 3 games a year anyway so WTF

    “Seymour didn’t seem too concerned about the situation when asked about it Thursday. These veterans have a way of knowing when to crank it up. This is not the time”
    ********************

    But hey Mista and Brien are such haters….fact is Seymour came to play only 2 games in 2009….9 games in 2010 and about 5 games last season….

    So out of 48 total possible games for this big contract guy we got about 16 good games lol

    16 out of 48 are good numbers if Seymour played for the Oakland a’s lol

  75. realtruraider Says:

    I believe the old blog pimp Jer was the one who said Veldheers dad read the bolg, he also said he probably isn’t one of the nuts who post on here though, lol

  76. Method To My Madness Says:

    Wished Seymour read the blog…I’d let him know…thanks for nothing! Some of us on this blog are on to your BS…you’re done and you only collecting a check….its sad but Tommy Kelly is looking like the better player in 2012

  77. Method To My Madness Says:

    Realtruraider Says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 6:38 pm
    I believe the old blog pimp Jer was the one who said Veldheers dad read the bolg, he also said he probably isn’t one of the nuts who post on here though, lol
    ****************

    Come on dont ever correlate “Pimp” with Jerry PhagDonald again

  78. Method To My Madness Says:

    Another tropical storm headed for Gulf Coast? My god

  79. PlunkforHOF Says:

    Whats up Brien! Cam and the Panthers look like they got nothin.. Jets offense is weak too.

    CODE BLACK!

  80. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Reggie is in charge of two things:

    1) Players roster

    2) Head Coach

    Dennis Allen decides who is on his coaching staff (within the budget Davis, Trask, and Reggie allocates).

    Reggie understands the importance of Dennis’ input, the final say is Reggie’s.

  81. Method To My Madness Says:

    PlunkforHOF Says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 6:42 pm
    Whats up Brien! Cam and the Panthers look like they got nothin.. Jets offense is weak too.

    CODE BLACK!
    ***********************

    Sup bruh? Man Panthers dont have what all ppl think they will have in 2012…Jets suck I wish we played them again…Rex Ryan shots off his big mouth and will be a DC in 2013

  82. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Raiders have 87 officially on their roster;

    Twelve cuts needed,

    So far (unofficially) I’ve read Henry, Powell, and Wang are gone,

    9 more to go, ten if we pickup someone, less/more should a trade happen.

  83. lefty12 Says:

    Reggie isn’t Davis.Why wouldn’t Reggie allow his coaches to pick the roster?His job is to go get the best players he can-build the team.Reggie’s main input on roster spots should be salary cap ramifications.

  84. Twocents Says:

    God is sending a tropical storm to the Republican convention to punish them for the evil they have done to St. Ron Paul.
    Go God!

  85. Method To My Madness Says:

    Lefty12 Says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 6:57 pm
    Reggie isn’t Davis.Why wouldn’t Reggie allow his coaches to pick the roster?His job is to go get the best players he can-build the team.Reggie’s main input on roster spots should be salary cap ramifications.
    **********************

    Maybe but he will give his suggestion I tell u that

  86. Method To My Madness Says:

    Twocents Says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 6:59 pm
    God is sending a tropical storm to the Republican convention to punish them for the evil they have done to St. Ron Paul.
    Go God!
    *****************

    its goin to louisiana/mississippi i thought lol

  87. Method To My Madness Says:

    its Shebow Time

  88. AssFat Says:

    effing great. seahacks name Wilson their startet just in time forr the Raiders nest thyurs. ssscchhhiiiiiiiiiitt.

  89. eastoaklandraider Says:

    I’m in Ala folks storm comin right for us.

  90. PlunkforHOF Says:

    Hang tough East..

  91. Method To My Madness Says:

    Eastoaklandraider Says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 7:07 pm
    I’m in Ala folks storm comin right for us.
    ***************

    Be safe bruh…schit not cool….weird times on this planet…..just dont know what to expect next right?

    Be safe cuz Im trying to hold up correct due to my ppl getting shot last night in Hayward….one is cool right now cuz he got hit in his leg but my young hitta took one in his back and has a little girl…so its tough these days bruh

  92. PlunkforHOF Says:

    My ex in-laws live in Dothan

  93. eastoaklandraider Says:

    I’m a lil concerned with Dwow coming in and starting for us having missed all of camp and preseason. Will he and palmer be on the same page? If we were still running last seasons O I wouldn’t feel so bad but this is a whole new O and palmer has had zero reps with Moore this camp and preseason. Am I the only one who feels this way?

  94. Method To My Madness Says:

    AssFat Says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 7:05 pm
    effing great. seahacks name Wilson their startet just in time forr the Raiders nest thyurs. ssscchhhiiiiiiiiiitt.
    ***************

    Youre a fkin clown….get off this blog

  95. Method To My Madness Says:

    Eastoaklandraider Says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 7:14 pm
    I’m a lil concerned with Dwow coming in and starting for us having missed all of camp and preseason. Will he and palmer be on the same page? If we were still running last seasons O I wouldn’t feel so bad but this is a whole new O and palmer has had zero reps with Moore this camp and preseason. Am I the only one who feels this way?
    ***************

    Seems legit to me..I like dmoore tho so we shall see

  96. PlunkforHOF Says:

    I’m a huge DeGnarlious fan, but also see your point. Thats why I’d like to see him get some reps on Thur

  97. r8eray Says:

    Russell Wilson….I’m scared!!!

    Lol…cut that sh!t out man!!

  98. eastoaklandraider Says:

    Sorry to hear that Meth hope your folks is straight. I’m a lil nervous this my first Hurricane but nobody is panicking so I’m straight it supposed to touch down tue night.

  99. Raider Dell Says:

    Method

    What’s up DAD!!!!!!

  100. Raider Dell Says:

    Method

    F-> Shebow

  101. DJ Johnny Says:

    So far it looks like Reggie lost the Murphy trade.

    They’re raving about him on NBC tonight.

  102. Silverandblack666 Says:

    a 15 year old cheerleader throws > Teblow

  103. Raider Dell Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 7:26 pm
    a 15 year old cheerleader throws > Teblow
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
    LOL 666

  104. morilla Says:

    I’ve been a Seymour apologist, but I don’t know if the old man is going to make it. I really hope they find a way to keep Cumbie. That guy needs to stay a Raider. I’ll start a petition if I have to.

  105. ottocrat Says:

    Goodsen for Murphy: Reggie’s first failure.

  106. eastoaklandraider Says:

    I wouldn’t risk Moore possibly pulling up lame in the preseason so I guess we gotta just hope for the best. It easily could cost us all Moore has to do is run the wrong route and palmer throws to where Moore is supposed to be but there’s only a defender there. Int

  107. kellygreenninja Says:

    Anyone watching the Top 10 Raiders on NFL Network right now?
    #10 Marcus Allen
    #9 Willie Brown
    #8 Jim Plunkett
    #7 Cliff Branch
    #6 George Blanda
    #5 Tim Brown so far…

  108. Method To My Madness Says:

    Eastoaklandraider Says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 7:21 pm
    Sorry to hear that Meth hope your folks is straight. I’m a lil nervous this my first Hurricane but nobody is panicking so I’m straight it supposed to touch down tue night.
    *************************

    Man I do too….schit is all fkd up these days mayne…to see dudes to knew since u were a little child go thru it hurts mayne

  109. Raiderbuck Says:

    Jets RapidReports ‏@CBSSportsNFLNYJ

    Cam Newton completes 3-yard TD pass to Louis Murphy. #Panthers go up 10-9 over #Jet

  110. PlunkforHOF Says:

    So sorry B.. I know you’ll hang in.

  111. kellygreenninja Says:

    ottocrat Says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 7:28 pm

    Goodsen for Murphy: Reggie’s first failure.

    ******************************

    Goodson wasn’t traded for Murphy. Try again!

  112. Method To My Madness Says:

    LOL whats up Dell?

    Shebow is trash…can scramble but not pass

  113. Raider Dell Says:

    Method

    We will all pray for your family and others in the eye of this storm.

  114. eastoaklandraider Says:

    Thanx plunkforHof

  115. Method To My Madness Says:

    Plunk….got no choice…..life stays moving on?

  116. PlunkforHOF Says:

    Man.. Tebow really, really does suck. TP looked a million times better than that

  117. Method To My Madness Says:

    Raider Dell Says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 7:33 pm
    Method

    We will all pray for your family and others in the eye of this storm.
    ****************

    Yeah thanks OG…my dudes run a legit barbershop in Hayward by Southland Mall….guys jump hopped the back fence at his mom house and started blasting….this why I’m not out like I use to be in the east bay…cats never will learn

  118. DJ Johnny Says:

    ottocrat Says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 7:28 pm
    Goodsen for Murphy: Reggie’s first failure.

    Actually 7th rounder for Murphy is even worse trade.

  119. eastoaklandraider Says:

    Thanx Raider Dell. Hey Meth what u think of TP last night old boy is improving.

  120. Twocents Says:

    Oh yes, McKenzie is a total failure.
    The reason some people are so easily led is that believe everything some talking head says.
    Critical thinking is not taught in school. There is a reason for that.

  121. Method To My Madness Says:

    TP is way better and I think him going through the OSU stuff and his pop passing will make him stronger….still has work to do but at least he looked more sure of himself last night

  122. PlunkforHOF Says:

    Yeah B.. life is life.. we’ll do what we can.. I”m having some health issues myself, but screw that.. its Raider season

  123. morilla Says:

    Murphy would be under Criner and Streater on the depth chart. Good guy, I like him but I don’t miss his alligator arms.

  124. Method To My Madness Says:

    EastOak…he injected alot of excitement in the venue is all I can say bruh…he underthrew pass that Criner(my dude) still grabbed…but love the 76 yard TD catch and run to Criner….should bosst his confidence

  125. RAIDERNATIONSTATION http://www.raidernationstation.com/ Says:

    IBA is the best Raider coverage period.

  126. Kirk Says:

    Dump Jano and Seymour and Lechler and Condo.

    Millions of dollars to spend on new players.

  127. RAIDERNATIONSTATION http://www.raidernationstation.com/ Says:

    123. This is true. He never regained his swagger while here. Hope he does. Good egg…

    Have a gr8 nite Nation!~

  128. eastoaklandraider Says:

    What kind O they running with tebow.

  129. morilla Says:

    NEVER CUT CONDO!!! HOW DARE YOU!

  130. ottocrat Says:

    Ooops, it was Campbell in that trade. Whatever! Goodsen still sucks…hehe

  131. Method To My Madness Says:

    PlunkforHOF Says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 7:39 pm
    Yeah B.. life is life.. we’ll do what we can.. I”m having some health issues myself, but screw that.. its Raider season
    *************************

    CODE BLACK!

    That’s right

  132. DJ Johnny Says:

    Twocents Says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 7:38 pm
    Oh yes, McKenzie is a total failure.
    The reason some people are so easily led is that believe everything some talking head says.
    Critical thinking is not taught in school. There is a reason for that.

    Nobody’s saying Reg is a ‘total failure’ (at least i’m not) becuz it appears Carolina got the best of that trade.

  133. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Crat

    Murphy was traded for a conditional draft choice, the better and more often he plays the better for the Raiders.

    Goodson was traded for B. Campbell straight across.

  134. Method To My Madness Says:

    Shebow is beyond trash

  135. Method To My Madness Says:

    Carolina got best of what? Season aint started…has it?

    I’m not as low on Goodson as yall are

  136. Fugazi Says:

    Tebow looks like a kid in the school yard getting stuffed in a garbagecan

  137. PlunkforHOF Says:

    lol

  138. DJ Johnny Says:

    Hey, if we get a stud contributor for that 7th rd. pick we got for Murphy then Reg looks real good for this one.

    MOST OFTEN 7th rounders rarely contribute to a team in any meaningful way.

    Murphy right now IS contributing for Carolina.

    That’s all. No huge deal. It is what it is.

  139. Method To My Madness Says:

    EastOak…they not running an O with Shebow…its Sandlot football lol

  140. Raider Dell Says:

    Seyi Ajirotutu –> better than Murphy, period.

  141. RaiderRetribution Says:

    I agree Morilla, Raiders need to keep Condo.

    It’s his birthday today even.

  142. Method To My Madness Says:

    Fugazi Says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 7:44 pm
    Tebow looks like a kid in the school yard getting stuffed in a garbagecan
    *********************

    Funniest comment today lmao

  143. eastoaklandraider Says:

    Give TP this year an next to ride pine an learn ala Arodgers and he should be ready. And I’m not comparing TP to Arodgers.

  144. Method To My Madness Says:

    Fugazi…I bet after Shebow gets out of trash can he tells you in a lisping voice..”God bless you and I’ll pray for you”

  145. DJ Johnny Says:

    Don’t get me wrong. I was glad Murphy was traded. I thought he was scared out there. But…it woulda been nice to get more than a 7th rounder for a guy who is scoring td’s for another team right now.

  146. Method To My Madness Says:

    Raider Dell Says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 7:47 pm
    Seyi Ajirotutu –> better than Murphy, period.
    ***************

    Yeah but he had a rough preseason….Murphy sux and we all know it…no awareness at all

    Cam is not what ppl think he is at QB…just an athlete who loves to smile

  147. Method To My Madness Says:

    I just need a fkin win MNF in Oakland….cant let this team end your season and take playoffs from ya then beat you to open season….thats not cool…no excuses

  148. DJ Johnny Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 7:44 pm
    Carolina got best of what? Season aint started…has it?

    I’m not as low on Goodson as yall are

    Remember it was Goodson for Bruce Campbell.

  149. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Could be a sixth for Murphy.

    One major advantage is that the trade cleared room for Streater and Criner to shine this preseason; Murphy might have kept reps away from one or both; which means a high probability we would’ve cut Streater without ever knowing how great he could be.

  150. eastoaklandraider Says:

    They not running the spread option for teblow?

  151. DJ Johnny Says:

    RR. Good point.

    We won’t know FOR SURE how this trade worked out for a while.

  152. Method To My Madness Says:

    Yep DJ Johnny I know bruh…Goodson I like tho…Az game he had no biz out there…he was still seeing stars from the WheelHouse smash!

  153. RaiderRetribution Says:

    143,

    Reggie remembers how well it worked out for Rogers.

    Leinart is the primary backup, Pryor is the future; unless of course Reggie drafts Denard Robinson from UM.

  154. DJ Johnny Says:

    Well, 2 mins left, down by 5 pts., need a td to win, and Tebow has the ball for one last shot.

  155. Fugazi Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 7:47 pm
    Fugazi…I bet after Shebow gets out of trash can he tells you in a lisping voice..”God bless you and I’ll pray for you”
    ————————————————–

    I still have Catholic school guilt from the 1950’s, It doesn’t matter what that loser tells me

  156. DJ Johnny Says:

    I hope you’re right Method. He did make a nice slash move last night for some extra yardage.

  157. eastoaklandraider Says:

    Cam is not what ppl think he is at QB…just an athlete who loves to smile
    ___________

    Gotta disagree with u there bruh Cam is a beast hope TP can step up like he did I know it was only one season but dude clowned last year. Hey Meth wat u know bout that carlo rassi rhine teachn this down south folk the Bay Way.

  158. Method To My Madness Says:

    Criner and Streater<—–chain moving twins…..sadly I feel once all WRs are healthy they will be 4th and 5th…wasting them

  159. DJ Johnny Says:

    Teblow with one last shot.

  160. DJ Johnny Says:

    I want to Tebow to score here.If nothing else for the chaos it will cause in NY.

  161. DJ Johnny Says:

    Not this time…NO TD’S this preseason for NYJ.

    Time to panic…Ha.

  162. DJ Johnny Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 7:59 pm
    Criner and Streater<—–chain moving twins…..sadly I feel once all WRs are healthy they will be 4th and 5th…wasting them

    I hope the coaches are smart enuff to do whatever is necessary to win games and if that means more of Streator and Criner? Then do it.

  163. Fugazi Says:

    Raiders-Lions game repeat on NFL Network, just started

  164. Method To My Madness Says:

    Fugazi Says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 7:47 pm
    Fugazi…I bet after Shebow gets out of trash can he tells you in a lisping voice..”God bless you and I’ll pray for you”
    ————————————————–

    I still have Catholic school guilt from the 1950’s, It doesn’t matter what that loser tells me
    ***************

    HAHAHA

  165. eastoaklandraider Says:

    Man I liked bruce Campbell I wish we would have kept him a while longer to see if he could have panned out dude ran a what 4.9? And his bench press was also impressive I’m like Al D that way I love those combine numbers.

  166. Method To My Madness Says:

    DJ Johnny Says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 7:59 pm
    Criner and Streater<—–chain moving twins…..sadly I feel once all WRs are healthy they will be 4th and 5th…wasting them

    I hope the coaches are smart enuff to do whatever is necessary to win games and if that means more of Streator and Criner? Then do it.
    *******************8888

    I think eventually those two will be starting this season…just hope playoffs arent outta reach when it does

    DHB Moore and Ford will get all the chances before that

  167. 504 Raider Says:

    EastOak, No worries on the Hurricane headed this way. It’s latest projection has it headed straight to the 504. I’m riding it out. It’s a baby, Category 2. I’ve never evacuated for anything under a Cat 3. Gonna hang tight and enjoy the empty streets. Gonna try to put my Cannondale on the I-10 on Tuesday or Wednesday.

  168. KoolKell Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 8:10 pm
    But whatever the politics, a total submission to them is a disservice to the country. No one knows this better than 0bama himself, who one described patriotism as more than pageantry and scarfing of hotdogs, “when our laws, our leaders, or our govt are out of alignment with our ideals, then the dissent of ordinary Americans may prove to be the truest form of patriotism.

    Love of country, like all form of love, requires that you tell those that you care about, not simply want they want to hear, but what they need to hear.
    ————
    Hear that Raider Nation

  169. Method To My Madness Says:

    504 Raider Says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 8:11 pm
    EastOak, No worries on the Hurricane headed this way. It’s latest projection has it headed straight to the 504. I’m riding it out. It’s a baby, Category 2. I’ve never evacuated for anything under a Cat 3. Gonna hang tight and enjoy the empty streets. Gonna try to put my Cannondale on the I-10 on Tuesday or Wednesday.
    *************

    Be safe bruh…we like your posts

  170. Method To My Madness Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 8:12 pm
    KoolKell Says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 8:10 pm
    But whatever the politics, a total submission to them is a disservice to the country. No one knows this better than 0bama himself, who one described patriotism as more than pageantry and scarfing of hotdogs, “when our laws, our leaders, or our govt are out of alignment with our ideals, then the dissent of ordinary Americans may prove to be the truest form of patriotism.

    Love of country, like all form of love, requires that you tell those that you care about, not simply want they want to hear, but what they need to hear.
    ————
    Hear that Raider Nation
    ************************8888

    Smh….who gives a damn? Go to the DNC and shout this…you always on some crusade and its fkin sad

  171. Chris in NY Says:

    RaiderRetribution Says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 7:51 pm
    Could be a sixth for Murphy.

    One major advantage is that the trade cleared room for Streater and Criner to shine this preseason; Murphy might have kept reps away from one or both; which means a high probability we would’ve cut Streater without ever knowing how great he could be.

    ————————–

    Streater still would’ve made the roster, regardless. Raiders would’ve kept 6 WRs if not for the LM trade: DHB, Moore, Ford, Murphy, Streater and Criner. Even before Murphy was trade there was a lot of talk regarding Streater’s emergence.

    Also, the way I understand it is the Murphy trade is only conditional in this way: if he makes the Panthers’ opening-day roster we get a 7th rounder. If he doesn’t we get nothing. I don’t believe there’s any clause to bump that to a higher pick.

    I don’t think the trade makes much sense for the Raiders, though LM may be better off for it. But with Ford and Moore’s nagging injuries and injury histories I think we could use a guy like Louis Murphy on this team right now.

  172. eastoaklandraider Says:

    Ok 504. Thx for update

  173. R8RNAZ Says:

    since we have no TE to speak of Streater or Criner will get time early and with the way our WR’s get hurt they will both play.

  174. 504 Raider Says:

    Thanks, Meth.

    It’s really not as bad as the National media makes it out to be. Even Katrina wasn’t that bad. The Levees broke off after the storm had passed.

  175. Shanko Says:

    WTH. Jano shanks a 30 harder? No Seymour? Raiders need to win this game. They move the ball pretty good on the dinky dunk only to shank a chipper. This my friends is a must win game.

  176. Method To My Madness Says:

    504 Raider Says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 8:18 pm
    Thanks, Meth.

    It’s really not as bad as the National media makes it out to be. Even Katrina wasn’t that bad. The Levees broke off after the storm had passed.
    ***************

    The aftermath was still brutal to watch…hard to not feel emotional seeing all those people lose it all

  177. r8eray Says:

    Shanko Says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 8:18 pm
    WTH. Jano shanks a 30 harder? No Seymour? Raiders need to win this game. They move the ball pretty good on the dinky dunk only to shank a chipper. This my friends is a must win game.

    =======

    Dude….where have you been?

    That was yesterday’s game!!

    Lol…

  178. R8RNAZ Says:

    You know DA will chew some ass for the presnap nonsense

  179. Method To My Madness Says:

    R8RNAZ Says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 8:17 pm
    since we have no TE to speak of Streater or Criner will get time early and with the way our WR’s get hurt they will both play.
    ******************

    I like Myers…he not athletic and not a pro bowler….do we really need one tho?

  180. Method To My Madness Says:

    Ray!!!!!!!!

  181. R8RNAZ Says:

    only to keep defense honest. 3 wr’s schemes could be devastating with dmac getting space to move

  182. eastoaklandraider Says:

    Yeah man be careful 504 get out quick if u havve to bruh.

  183. R8RNAZ Says:

    I know its only a preseason replay, but I still have a mental disturbance when I see wrong colors get points

  184. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Meth Head, did Jerry Rice kill your dog and eat your ice cream cone? What’s with all the hate? Rice is the greatest WR in history of world.

  185. Shanko Says:

    R8eray Says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 8:20 pm
    Shanko Says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 8:18 pm
    WTH. Jano shanks a 30 harder? No Seymour? Raiders need to win this game. They move the ball pretty good on the dinky dunk only to shank a chipper. This my friends is a must win game.

    =======

    Dude….where have you been?

    That was yesterday’s game!!

    Lol…
    …………………………….

    My bad.

  186. DJ Johnny Says:

    Shanko Says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 8:18 pm
    WTH. Jano shanks a 30 harder? No Seymour? Raiders need to win this game. They move the ball pretty good on the dinky dunk only to shank a chipper. This my friends is a must win game.

    I have a good feeling we are gonna win this one.

  187. R8RNAZ Says:

    Shanko Says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 8:26 pm
    R8eray Says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 8:20 pm
    Shanko Says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 8:18 pm
    WTH. Jano shanks a 30 harder? No Seymour? Raiders need to win this game. They move the ball pretty good on the dinky dunk only to shank a chipper. This my friends is a must win game.

    =======

    Dude….where have you been?

    That was yesterday’s game!!

    Lol…
    …………………………….

    My bad.

    …………………….
    I have same reaction

  188. Method To My Madness Says:

    KlasMR…..yawwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnn go to the 49er blog..Rice aint the greatest so fk him and fk you too

  189. Method To My Madness Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 8:25 pm
    Meth Head, did Jerry Rice kill your dog and eat your ice cream cone?
    ***************

    Rice cant kill schit unless its more of his T-cells…thats why Raiders lost to Pats and had that bogus SB loss vs Bucs…thats karma…never shoulda got that punk…she is Mrs 49er with a niner tat on her arm…schit was an abomination…..i say 2001 and 2002 was justice

  190. Intrepid Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    Mistic was congratulating himself last night with his Debo alter ego.///////////////////////////////////////I enjoy Klas Tjorborn but nobody joins this blog and gets clued in that fast to the games afoot here. So my question is; who was/is he? Always upbeat, usually funny, has developed a rapport with TxRaider who I think is a fairly recent addition(and a good one) to this blog, and doesn’t take himself too seriously. He11, maybe he is a fast learner and I’m wrong, but I certainly took longer to figure out the dynamics of this soap opera. Any opinions out there?

  191. morilla Says:

    I liked Bruce Campbell too, but some braniac thought he was better suited at gaurd.

  192. Intrepid Says:

    Wow, hadn’t read the previous posts for an hour or so. Good timing, huh?

  193. R8RNAZ Says:

    3 games in and I cant wait to see our D play a full game. These are not Als (RIP) Raiders

  194. eastoaklandraider Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 8:25 pm

    Meth Head, did Jerry Rice kill your dog and eat your ice cream cone? What’s with all the hate? Rice is the greatest WR in history of world.
    ____________

    Fuack Rice Tim Brown has always been better that Rice. Rice just had the luxury of playing with back to back HOF qbs while Timmy played with mostly bad qbs and still put HOF numbers could rice have done that? I think not.

  195. Intrepid Says:

    Klas, if anybody ever comes within 5 miles of 49er HQ’s, they are forever on meths sh1t list. Other than that,dude is spot on.

  196. Intrepid Says:

    Except about Seymour.

  197. DJ Johnny Says:

    Watching this game at the O.Co. i think of how many dramatic games Raiders have played on that field.

    “Sea of Hands”, AFC Championship games, the list goes on and on.

    Lotta memories from that place.

    That being said, we need a new stadium.

  198. Method To My Madness Says:

    LOL Intrepid…how goes it?

    Klas is another one of MR’s alter egos

  199. Intrepid Says:

    Can’t be. Unless hefinally got the right meds.

  200. Method To My Madness Says:

    Eastoaklandraider Says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 8:37 pm
    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 8:25 pm

    Meth Head, did Jerry Rice kill your dog and eat your ice cream cone? What’s with all the hate? Rice is the greatest WR in history of world.
    ____________

    Fuack Rice Tim Brown has always been better that Rice. Rice just had the luxury of playing with back to back HOF qbs while Timmy played with mostly bad qbs and still put HOF numbers could rice have done that? I think not.
    **********************************

    No WR in history had that luxury in his prime

    many WRs were better….im sorry but the people who the so called experts always say were the greatest were not

    Michael Jordan the Best? Nope
    Muhammad Ali? Nope
    Babe Ruth? Nope
    Jerry Rice? Nope

    Only mediots telling people who were the best convinces them….no one thinks for themselves

  201. Raidernationdave Says:

    Cam to Louis Murphy. Deez nuts biatch says LM.

  202. Method To My Madness Says:

    Intrepid Says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 8:42 pm
    Can’t be. Unless hefinally got the right meds.
    **************

    He too easy to spot

  203. Intrepid Says:

    Klas is another one of MR’s alter egos.////////////That’s why I mentioned the upbeat and funny part. Unless Sully got some serious Sybil thing going on.

  204. Method To My Madness Says:

    DJ Johnny Says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 8:40 pm
    Watching this game at the O.Co. i think of how many dramatic games Raiders have played on that field.

    “Sea of Hands”, AFC Championship games, the list goes on and on.

    Lotta memories from that place.

    That being said, we need a new stadium.
    ************

    Will be right in same area…will schit on Santa clara stadium for sure

  205. Method To My Madness Says:

    Intrepid Says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 8:44 pm
    Klas is another one of MR’s alter egos.////////////That’s why I mentioned the upbeat and funny part. Unless Sully got some serious Sybil thing going on.
    ***********

    Now you got it

  206. Intrepid Says:

    If he does, how do we get him to stay locked on to one of his better personalities?

  207. Raidernationdave Says:

    I can’t stop laughing!

    Ice cream cone….

    ++++++++++++++++++++++

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 8:25 pm

    Meth Head, did Jerry Rice kill your dog and eat your ice cream cone?

  208. [BREAKING NEWS] Says:

    The Burger King has denied accusations from the Dairy Queen that he is the father of her child. He claims she was drunk the night that the intamacy took place with Jack in the Box. Jack also denies the accusation from the Burger King saying it was Ronald Macdonald who was the man poking the Dairy Queen. Ronald Macdonald claims the Dairy Queen was drunk out of her mind and freely passed herself around to all the male party goers. Meanwhile, the Dairy Queen is adamant the Burger King is the father.

  209. Intrepid Says:

    I’ve seen MR lighten up, but never even to the level of Klas depressed.

  210. Method To My Madness Says:

    Man Sammie hill tore Parsons ass apart near goaline!….damn zbs

  211. Method To My Madness Says:

    Raidernationdave Says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 8:46 pm
    I can’t stop laughing!

    Ice cream cone….

    ++++++++++++++++++++++

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 8:25 pm

    Meth Head, did Jerry Rice kill your dog and eat your ice cream cone?
    **************

    Dave you found that lame schit funny?

  212. Intrepid Says:

    I gotta get to a game this year and meet you clowns. Even if I can’t afford the game, I’ll get off BART and tailgate with you.

  213. Method To My Madness Says:

    Is it not obvious Owen Schmitt should be our starting FB?…just stronger than our other FBs

  214. Intrepid Says:

    Hate to call Reece #2

  215. Chris in NY Says:

    Watching the replay of the game now on NFLN. Miscellaneous thoughts:

    - Tremendous downfield catch by DHB. That’s something we really haven’t seen much of from him so far. If he can do that kind of thing with some regularity he’s on the way to greatness.

    - Taiwan Jones is a blur. 100x better than Mike Goodson. When Taiwan gets the ball it reminds me of when Barry Sanders used to get it. You just have the feeling that the guy can take it the distance on any given play from anywhere on the field if a small crease opens up. Obviously not equating TJ with BS, but there’s a shared element of unique gamebreaking ability there.

    - Streater looks like our most polished receiver. Even more than Denarius. Truly amazing this kid was a UFA from a run-based offense. Looks like a 6-year veteran WR out there.

    - That field is a disgrace.

    - Timing between the WRs and Carson still looks off. This offense needs some polish before opening night.

    - Lamar Houston looks much improved to me. I always thought he was a good, solid player but not what you’d call an impact player. This year I think he has a chance to be a bigtime impact player.

  216. Intrepid Says:

    Out for dinner, back later.

  217. Method To My Madness Says:

    Intrepid…u can get a ticket in oakland bruh…come thru…youll love it

  218. Chris in NY Says:

    One other thing: Parsons won’t cut it. We need a better backup center, especially if Wiz is going to be questionable from week to week with this injury.

  219. Method To My Madness Says:

    Intrepid Says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 8:53 pm
    Hate to call Reece #2
    ***************

    That is what he is!

  220. R8RNAZ Says:

    cant wait for opening night. comming in from AZ. gonna be great

  221. irjonny Says:

    Been awhile since I posted. How’s the nation hangin?

    Watching the replay of the game and here’s my take of the 1st team:

    -Breisel is a disappointment to say the least so far
    -We have a WR problem…too many good ones
    -Palmer looks great WHEN HE HAS TIME.
    -Defense can be top 5

    I say we finally give Ryan Grant a call

  222. DJ Johnny Says:

    We need somebody to bang that ball in from the goalline.

    No need to hammer DMAC like that…plus, it isn’t working.

  223. Method To My Madness Says:

    Chris In NY Says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 8:55 pm
    Watching the replay of the game now on NFLN. Miscellaneous thoughts:

    - Tremendous downfield catch by DHB. That’s something we really haven’t seen much of from him so far. If he can do that kind of thing with some regularity he’s on the way to greatness.

    - Taiwan Jones is a blur. 100x better than Mike Goodson. When Taiwan gets the ball it reminds me of when Barry Sanders used to get it. You just have the feeling that the guy can take it the distance on any given play from anywhere on the field if a small crease opens up. Obviously not equating TJ with BS, but there’s a shared element of unique gamebreaking ability there.

    - Streater looks like our most polished receiver. Even more than Denarius. Truly amazing this kid was a UFA from a run-based offense. Looks like a 6-year veteran WR out there.

    - That field is a disgrace.

    - Timing between the WRs and Carson still looks off. This offense needs some polish before opening night.

    - Lamar Houston looks much improved to me. I always thought he was a good, solid player but not what you’d call an impact player. This year I think he has a chance to be a bigtime impact player.
    *********************8

    Agreed with most of it…but 100x better than Goodson? no…but 10x is fair

    And I love the field…I grew up at that stadium

  224. Raidernationdave Says:

    Yeah…I’m high. You kool wid dat homie?

    +++++++

    Method To My Madness Says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 8:49 pm

    Dave you found that lame schit funny?

  225. Method To My Madness Says:

    DJ Johnny Says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 8:59 pm
    We need somebody to bang that ball in from the goalline.

    No need to hammer DMAC like that…plus, it isn’t working.
    ************************

    I think it does work better with Carlise and Parson out of the equation

  226. Method To My Madness Says:

    Raidernationdave Says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 9:00 pm
    Yeah…I’m high. You kool wid dat homie?

    +++++++

    Method To My Madness Says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 8:49 pm

    Dave you found that lame schit funny?
    ************************
    LOL well if you high then all things are funny…even Kell….what kind you rockin with? Maui Wowie? Northern Lights? Kush? Purple?

  227. Method To My Madness Says:

    Anyhow i’m out….here goes another boring 2 weeks of working before we get to open season at home

    Check yall later

    Just Win

    Code Black!

  228. irjonny Says:

    Also please get us some ST players that can get the ball past the 20 on kickoffs…horrible

  229. irjonny Says:

    Cardinals waived deuce latui? whats the deal with that? injury or poor performance? he used to be good

  230. DJ Johnny Says:

    Pretty good that Palmer led Raiders to fg from his own 1 yd. line at end of 1st half. Against what’s supposed to be a very good Lion defense.

  231. RaiderChaos Says:

    You should get caught up! It time…. http://raiderchaos.blogspot.com/2012/08/thats-better.html

  232. DJ Johnny Says:

    …even tho McGee fell down on one play and lfat out dropped another.

  233. DJ Johnny Says:

    My bad. Raiders didn’t score on that drive I mentioned. McGee gave up that int.

  234. irjonny Says:

    I haven’t had a chance to really pay close attention to the games. I know Briesel is sucking it up, but what is the answer? How has Bergstrom been doing? should we move wiz to guard again?

    oh and can we please get another TE who can catch?

  235. Gdog Says:

    >>>
    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 5:25 pm

    Hope everyone takes a look at cam newton tonight, this the future of the nfl qb.
    >>>

    6 for 15?

    I have better hopes for the NFL.

  236. morilla Says:

    I think it was Briesel that got pushed back 3ft and Dmac ran into him on the goal line. It didn’t look too good.

    I’m watching the game again and was thinking about a comment yesterday about the dirt. I know it’s antiquated and should go. But I honestly like the look of it. Dirt lot football.

  237. DJ Johnny Says:

    GDog,

    Jamarcus got a raw deal.
    Jc did too and is a great qb.
    RG 3 and Russell Wilson are worlds ahead of Luck.
    Pryor is better than Palmer.

    You draw your own conclusions as to the agenda at work.

  238. Seymour Bush Says:

    Gdog Says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 9:20 pm

    >>>
    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 5:25 pm

    Hope everyone takes a look at cam newton tonight, this the future of the nfl qb.
    >>>

    6 for 15?

    I have better hopes for the NFL.
    ==========================================

    That’s 6 for 15 for 60 yards or 4 yards per attempt. Makes Palmers 5.7 yards per attempt seem downright gaudy.

  239. UCLA Raiders Says:

    Who is that Cumbie kid? Granted he was. Playing against 2nd and 3rd strings but still I was impressed. Keep him instead of Seymour who is dead weight collecting huge pay check. I know Seymour has a guarantee of like $10M but still that will be addition by subtraction of a guy who’s not giving his team 100% for whatever reason.
    Instead Keep Kelly, Shaunessy, Bryant, Houston, Bilukidi, Combie, Tollefson, and maybe Crawford

  240. Dhidee99 Says:

    Thomas Mayo and Dre Mohhomed were cut today

  241. morilla Says:

    UCLA Raiders Says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 9:39 pm
    Who is that Cumbie kid? Granted he was. Playing against 2nd and 3rd strings but still I was impressed. Keep him instead of Seymour who is dead weight collecting huge pay check. I know Seymour has a guarantee of like $10M but still that will be addition by subtraction of a guy who’s not giving his team 100% for whatever reason.
    Instead Keep Kelly, Shaunessy, Bryant, Houston, Bilukidi, Combie, Tollefson, and maybe Crawford
    ————–

    I’m starting a “Keep Cumbie” Foundation. Details for donations to come soon.

  242. morilla Says:

    The guy was playing on fire. Plus his size is crazy, 6′6 / 295lbs.

  243. Intrepid Says:

    DJ Johnny Says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 9:26 pm

    GDog,

    Jamarcus got a raw deal.
    Jc did too and is a great qb.
    RG 3 and Russell Wilson are worlds ahead of Luck.
    Pryor is better than Palmer.

    You draw your own conclusions as to the agenda at work.////////////////////////////////No racial agendas here DJ, Except when there are.

  244. Seymour Bush Says:

    Cumbie played well for us last year in the preseason. Dude is a keeper.

  245. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Keep all five DTs;
    Seymour’s probably retiring and I don’t think the 2nd year is guaranteed, at least I hope not;

    Kelly only has a year or two on his contract;

    Bryant is UFA;

    Biloduki is a rookie, promising though;

    Cumbie, we need him for this and beyond!

  246. RaiderRetribution Says:

    We can always move Kelly to DE if necessary.

  247. RaiderRetribution Says:

    DVD will be traded to Miami;

    One OL to Pittsburgh or Tampa Bay.

    CB to Detroit;

  248. privatelabelstudio Says:

    O-Line is one of the hardest positions to transition into. it takes a season or two coming out of college for these young players to get acclimated. Stupid penalties cost us games last year. Parsons has not caused one penalty yet. He is solid. from what I am seeing, we can not score when we need to. can not get a first down in crunch situations. That has to due with the center and two guards. As well as play calling, and full back blocking, quarterback reads, etc.Briesels and Carlisle have been doing this a while, Parsons has only been here for two years ( second season from practice squad). Yes, he was getting mauled in short situations but our offensive weapons, as well as plays, were basic vanilla plays due to preseason.. Parsons knows how to hold down the center and guard position and has proven he can handle N. Suh, which is no small feet. he is a good solid linemen. And one I might add that does not get penalties, unlike Satele (why we let him go) or Briesel, Carlisle, etc. Parsons should at least make a good push for Center if not right guard with wiz at center. Think about it, has he caused any penalties? He is solid.Not flashy, not a showy guy, just a hard working focused linemen. You can do a lot with that.

  249. Intrepid Says:

    morilla Says: There is a lot more to talk about than this never ending loop of delusional banter./////////////////////////////A never ending loop of delusional banter. That should be the unofficial title of this blog.

  250. Intrepid Says:

    248. In agreement here.

  251. morilla Says:

    Nix at right gaurd looked really strong too. I remember reading that he had a mean streak in college.

  252. Intrepid Says:

    geez, morilla. I plucked you out of 8:00AM this morning and here you are.

  253. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    Just finished watching the game. Two quick comments then I’ve got to dash.

    1. If not for his draft status, DVD would be an EASY cut. Even with the reported great camp, draft status and depth concerns at corner – he’ll be fortunate to survive. Absolutely atrocious tackling, lost in coverage, and just too damned light.

    2. Very poor interception by TIM Palmer on the screen, but those that are worried about Palmer should be more alarmed by the pass immediately preceding the interception. That throw not only came up short and off target, but did not have great velocity at all. Not good.

  254. Orthodoxdj Says:

    Cam Newton lit it up tonight!

    Not on the field; afterwards.

    6-15 isn’t anything to write home about.

  255. lefty12 Says:

    Don’t know if Klas is Alias,but Mystic sure is.

  256. lefty12 Says:

    253-LMFAO,you guys just won’t give it up,will you?

  257. mcfadden20. Says:

    Can’t really find the game stats anywhere but man did we stop the Lions running game from going anywhere I think we outgained them 220 to 40 on the ground ..

  258. mcfadden20. Says:

    I like what our D Is doing in this Pre-season , not allowing any yards on the ground and not allowing any long TD’s in the air… That’s just what the doctor ordered … N offense also outgained the other team for 3rd game in a row so we’ll be fine .. Palmer won’t throw boneheaded picks in Reg season

  259. rob_raider Says:

    i don’t think anyone drafted before this year or not brought in by this regime is a sacred cow. dvd supposedly looked good in camp, but he has been less than good in the games. it wouldn’t surprise me to see any of these guys go if DA and reggie don’t feel they will help now or develop:

    barksdale
    ausberry
    ford
    mcclain
    dvd
    chekwa

    these guys either have to show they can help at positions that have been called out by the regime, or go by-by.

  260. rob_raider Says:

    the positions that have been continually talked about as needing an upgrade are:

    TE
    CB

    read between the lines. and remember: there are ALWAYS surprises in the final cut.

  261. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Raider Riff Says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
    Lefty12 Says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
    Allen on Wiz getting his starting job back once he is healthy-nothings promised.

    ———

    WOW. He really said that?

    That is interesting. Does that mean we move Wiz back to the LG position?
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    That IS interesting.
    Parsons has been doing a pretty good job.
    With his size he probably wouldn’t be doing as well except for Knapp’s ZBS system but he’s been more than adequate at center.

    Wiz as left guard-which is his position-working with Veldheer was a big plus for us last year.

  262. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Already, names of players being cut by the Raiders in advance of the first mandatory cutdown are surfing on Twitter.
    Safety Aaron Henry Tweeted that he has been informed of his release. Fellow safety Chaz Powell also was released, according to league insider Aaron Wilson.

    ***

    LOL

    DAV had Henry beating out Giordano on his 53man roster for the past 3 months

    gone at first cuts!

  263. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Raiders have 87 officially on their roster;

    Twelve cuts needed,

    So far (unofficially) I’ve read Henry, Powell, and Wang are gone,

    9 more to go, ten if we pickup someone, less/more should a trade happen.

    ***

    Thomas Mayo and Dre Mohhomed were cut today

    ***

    thanks gents

    7 to go, eh?

    no surprises yet!!

    injury settlement for JFORD?

  264. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I think think Reggie is trading away any picks, so if he makes a trade it’ll be our trash for somebody elses (like Goodson 4 Campbell) again

  265. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I DON’T think *

    correction

  266. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Good day my blog friends. It’s a good day to be Swedish gangsta! After watching Jets Panthers game, Klas thinks TP could be as good as Newton/Sanchez/Tebow.

  267. Raider Riff Says:

    I just watched the game for the 3rd time.

    Those of you here that are members of the “panic patrol” are in for a rude awakening when the season starts.

    Palmer was money. And Houdini was nearly perfect. His mechanics, decision making, accuracy. People forget how many dropped passes there were. We are in VERY good shape in the QB department.

    Speaking of Houdini… After that throw on the run where he hit Criner going across the middle…. watching him run down the sideline like a little kid celebrating. How can a person not root for him? He’s electric. He definitely has that Willie Beamen quality about him (minus the crappy attitude).

    Im so jacked up about Sandy Eggo on Sept 10. If I was in the US I’d be on stub hub right now looking for tix.

    RAIDER NATION

  268. Raider Riff Says:

    ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
    August 27th, 2012 at 3:13 am
    Raider Riff Says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
    Lefty12 Says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
    Allen on Wiz getting his starting job back once he is healthy-nothings promised.

    ———

    WOW. He really said that?

    That is interesting. Does that mean we move Wiz back to the LG position?
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    That IS interesting.
    Parsons has been doing a pretty good job.
    With his size he probably wouldn’t be doing as well except for Knapp’s ZBS system but he’s been more than adequate at center.

    Wiz as left guard-which is his position-working with Veldheer was a big plus for us last year.

    ——————

    You wont see me object to moving Wiz back to LG. He and Veldheer were money together.

    It just sux that he’s missed so much time to get aquainted with the ZBS system. And it makes our G position VERY crowded with Bergstom, Carlisle and Wiz 2.0 all at that spot. RG is sort of a mess though so maybe we move someone over?

    This O-Line stuff needs to be settled like yesterday. Tho, Im sure the Gut and the Visor have a plan. In the Hair, the Gut, and the Visor I trust.

    We certainly have the oddest Owner/CEO/GM/Head Coach combo ever. And I like it that way.

    Anyone else notice that Bartell is showing up injured on the depth chart?

  269. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Riff, you live in Italy, no? Where you at?

  270. Raider Riff Says:

    RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    2. Very poor interception by TIM Palmer on the screen, but those that are worried about Palmer should be more alarmed by the pass immediately preceding the interception. That throw not only came up short and off target, but did not have great velocity at all. Not good.

    ——————–

    He threw to the open spot on the field. The WR has to make the adjustment accordingly. It’s sandlot football 101.

    Brady does it all the time.

    Just a lack of chemistry from all the injury turnover by the WR corps.

  271. Raider Riff Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 27th, 2012 at 5:29 am
    Riff, you live in Italy, no? Where you at?

    ————–

    Just outside of Milan

  272. Raider Riff Says:

    I was supposed to be in Karlsborg this weekend in fact.

  273. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    I have been to Rome. That is it for Italy.

  274. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Just discovered Brit Pop documentary on you tube. Klas is big Blur fan. Can’t wait to watch.

  275. ddwight Says:

    8.alex7 Says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 4:44 pm
    Damujb

    If we don’t make the playoffs this year it will be for the same reasons as last year: no quality corner backs, lack of depth at LB, and an injured running back

    ——————————————————-

    Wrong, I disagree. If we don’t make the playoffs it will be because of a washed up mistake prone (QB) Carson Palmers inability to run a terrible (OC) looking offense Gregg Knapps conservative schemes, (no play appears to more than 20yrds down field). I repeat, if we dont make the playoffs…Knapp & Plamer will be the reasons!!!

  276. fingers Says:

    We haven’t been this solid at QB for a longtime… No doubts about Palmer here… He’s gonna light the Chokers up on sept 10th … McFadden will romp …..
    Coach Allen said he has no doubts about Carson Palmer and I agree …..

  277. hwnrdr Says:

    Good Morning Nation!!!
    Saturday, I wished I stayed for the second half…just couldn’t do it…
    Some fans that were seat hoppers were pissing me off! Yelling at me to calm down and they weren’t even paying attention to the game!!! Went home, thegame was on, seen those two catches by Criner, but missed that ridiculous run by Pryor!!!

  278. TxRaider210 Says:

    Good morning Hwnrdr!

    Damn man that sucks that those fans had to be like that, security doesn’t take notice of schitty people like that?

  279. fingers Says:

    Liked what I saw outta Pryor… Give the kid some time….lots of progress Saturday

  280. guest123 Says:

    Good morning Hwnrdr,

    You missed a fantastic run by Pryor. He’s got some wheels! That would piss me off too to have all the seat hopping. Where were the ushers at? Isn’t there a phone number or something to report these things in the coliseum?

  281. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Good morning TX!

  282. Raider Riff Says:

    Ddwight Says:
    August 27th, 2012 at 5:46 am
    8.alex7 Says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 4:44 pm
    Damujb

    If we don’t make the playoffs this year it will be for the same reasons as last year: no quality corner backs, lack of depth at LB, and an injured running back

    ——————————————————-

    Wrong, I disagree. If we don’t make the playoffs it will be because of a washed up mistake prone (QB) Carson Palmers inability to run a terrible (OC) looking offense Gregg Knapps conservative schemes, (no play appears to more than 20yrds down field). I repeat, if we dont make the playoffs…Knapp & Plamer will be the reasons!!!

    ———————–

    Our defense choked away how many 4th quarter leads last year? And you dunces want to blame our personel and QB?

    We finally have a modern D…

    Which means less fatigue, less fatigue induced penalties, and NO MORE 4th QTR COLLAPSES!

    Some people will do anything to ignore the obvious.

    @Buffalo last year… on the defense.
    Denver last year…. on the defense.
    Detroit last year…. on the defense.
    San Diego last year… on the defense.

    If we had a modern D last year, we are a 12-4 football team.

  283. TxRaider210 Says:

    What up Klas? BBQ any wild animals over the weekend?

  284. TxRaider210 Says:

    Riff, nice post man, I’d agree with that defensive break-down 100%

  285. guest123 Says:

    I think Pryor is a player in this league. Just not an NFL QB. Saturday’s game against the 3rd string Lions defense hasn’t swayed me a bit in that regard. He’d make an excellent receiver one day.

  286. ddwight Says:

    Carson Palmer 36-ints in 26-games. YEAH… Im concerned and every Raider fan should be. Its hard to look at th glass half-full, between CP and a (OC) Knapp, who has not had much success in the NFL. We have a lot of good weapons…but can Knapp put them position to succeed, and will Carson stop having these mental lapses?

  287. Raider Riff Says:

    Guest123 Says:
    August 27th, 2012 at 5:57 am
    Good morning Hwnrdr,

    You missed a fantastic run by Pryor. He’s got some wheels! That would piss me off too to have all the seat hopping. Where were the ushers at? Isn’t there a phone number or something to report these things in the coliseum?

    ———–

    Seat hopping is a Raider fan tradition. Its the preseason. Relax.

    That number is funny. I used to text in all the time and report any opposing teams fans that were sitting within eyesight. I got a lot of Charger fans hassled for nothing. I couldnt stop laughing.

  288. hwnrdr Says:

    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 27th, 2012 at 5:55 am
    Good morning Hwnrdr!

    Damn man that sucks that those fans had to be like that, security doesn’t take notice of schitty people like that?

    LOL, no…but a few sections down from me, a fan took off the cap of a Detroit fan that was talking ish and threw it. The Detroit fan turned around and saw an elderly guy and stood up and looked like he wanted to hit the old guy. 4 guys stood up ready to floor his a**. The old man told them it was alright and it looked like he was telling teh Detroit fan that it wasn’t him who did it. The Detroit fan rose his hand up aagin, the 4 guys grabbed him and security came down and walked the Detroit fan out.
    To me, that was like … Really dude? That guy you were gonna try to hit looked really old…

  289. TxRaider210 Says:

    After watching Cam Newton last night, I would not want him leading my team. The guy took a snap, fell down untouched, coughed up the football and gave up on the play like it was over. He was oblivious to what was happening, although it was a fumble and the defense was diving for the ball. C’mon mayne!

  290. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 27th, 2012 at 5:58 am
    What up Klas? BBQ any wild animals over the weekend?
    —–
    Naw, I ate at Max Burgers. It is Sweden’s most popular fast food chain.

    http://www.max.se/

  291. fingers Says:

    Riff… Agree…not sure about 12 & 4 .. But I see more reason to see the bright side of the Raiders than gloom …. The defense looks outstanding which will only help the offense… I doubt outta 32 teams that many were playing the schemes were gonna see during the regular season….the raiders have had some pitiful defenses and last years D has to rank up there with the most pitiful

  292. Raider Riff Says:

    Guest123 Says:
    August 27th, 2012 at 5:59 am
    I think Pryor is a player in this league. Just not an NFL QB. Saturday’s game against the 3rd string Lions defense hasn’t swayed me a bit in that regard. He’d make an excellent receiver one day.

    ——–

    After watching each of the previous two games twice and now the Lions game for the 3rd time just now, Im no longer of the camp that wants to move Houdini to TE.

    The jump in improvements was so drastic for that Lions game Im now a full believer that he can play QB.

    His footwork, his mechanics, his accuracy, and his decision making were all WORLDS better. He looked like a QB. The only drives that didnt result in scores had dropped passes by money throws to Criner and Owen Schmidt.

    If he keeps his trajectory, Houdini will be a QB in this league for us.

  293. TxRaider210 Says:

    hwnrdr Says:
    August 27th, 2012 at 6:00 am
    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 27th, 2012 at 5:55 am
    Good morning Hwnrdr!

    Damn man that sucks that those fans had to be like that, security doesn’t take notice of schitty people like that?

    LOL, no…but a few sections down from me, a fan took off the cap of a Detroit fan that was talking ish and threw it. The Detroit fan turned around and saw an elderly guy and stood up and looked like he wanted to hit the old guy. 4 guys stood up ready to floor his a**. The old man told them it was alright and it looked like he was telling teh Detroit fan that it wasn’t him who did it. The Detroit fan rose his hand up aagin, the 4 guys grabbed him and security came down and walked the Detroit fan out.
    To me, that was like … Really dude? That guy you were gonna try to hit looked really old…

    ————————-
    Too funny, he was scared and looking for the most frail person to punch! classic

  294. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Blueberry Lyxshake is the best!

    http://www.max.se/kampanjer.aspx?id=1123

  295. hwnrdr Says:

    Seat hopping is a Raider fan tradition. Its the preseason. Relax.

    That number is funny. I used to text in all the time and report any opposing teams fans that were sitting within eyesight. I got a lot of Charger fans hassled for nothing. I couldnt stop laughing.

    True, I don’t care if they do or not…but to tell me to calm down and then not pay attention to the game at all was disturbing. That kicker we have (can’t think of his name) after Seabass got hurt trying to run down Justin Miller kicked a 56 yarder. We all stood up high fiving and them 4 were just sitting there talking to each other. No clue of what was going on! In fact that whole drive was good…

  296. TxRaider210 Says:

    Klas

    That looks like some damn good food man, wish we had those in the states, heck of a lot better than Wac Arnolds.

  297. Raider Riff Says:

    Fingers Says:
    August 27th, 2012 at 6:04 am
    Riff… Agree…not sure about 12 & 4 .. But I see more reason to see the bright side of the Raiders than gloom …. The defense looks outstanding which will only help the offense… I doubt outta 32 teams that many were playing the schemes were gonna see during the regular season….the raiders have had some pitiful defenses and last years D has to rank up there with the most pitiful

    ————–

    Agreed. A person would have to be an absolute hater to not see that it was the defense that cost us the playoffs last year. Not Campbell, not CP3, not DMC’s injury.

    It was the same in 2010. I just didnt bother to list those games.

  298. guest123 Says:

    I’m not down with people who can’t respect personal property like a baseball cap of the opposing team. Show some respect and dignity. People who do this aren’t acting the bully. Where’s the sport in that when you have a stadium full of Raider fans backing you. I’d like to see that same type of behavior out in a back alley one on one, mano a mano. Don’t start ish if the the playing ground isn’t fair. It’s all really immature stuff, and I’d be embarrased to be in the vicinity of it. I feel for the old man who did nothing wrong and had to be subject to the Detroit fan’s leer. SMH

  299. hwnrdr Says:

    Actually, didn’t Pryor have one series against the ones and with our ones? Not sure, have to rewatch but I thought Detroit ones were still out there…

  300. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 27th, 2012 at 6:06 am
    Klas

    That looks like some damn good food man, wish we had those in the states, heck of a lot better than Wac Arnolds.
    ——-
    Yeah, Mcdonald’s is like eating troll testicles.

  301. Raider Riff Says:

    Hwnrdr Says:
    August 27th, 2012 at 6:04 am
    Seat hopping is a Raider fan tradition. Its the preseason. Relax.

    That number is funny. I used to text in all the time and report any opposing teams fans that were sitting within eyesight. I got a lot of Charger fans hassled for nothing. I couldnt stop laughing.

    True, I don’t care if they do or not…but to tell me to calm down and then not pay attention to the game at all was disturbing. That kicker we have (can’t think of his name) after Seabass got hurt trying to run down Justin Miller kicked a 56 yarder. We all stood up high fiving and them 4 were just sitting there talking to each other. No clue of what was going on! In fact that whole drive was good…

    ——————-

    Any alleged “fan” that tells you to calm down in your home stadium is a tool. Did they not realize where they were?

    Those “fans” are in for a rude awakening when the Black Hole erupts come September 10th.

  302. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S.THE “YELLOW JACKETS” DONT HAVE A CLUE SO FAR.NEW COMPANY RUNNING THINGS,SO I GIVE EM A PASS SO FAR.THE USHERS BETTER BE READY FOR SEPT-10TH THOUGH..

  303. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Guest123 Says:
    August 27th, 2012 at 6:07 am
    I’m not down with people who can’t respect personal property like a baseball cap of the opposing team.
    ——–
    In Sweden you touch a man’s hat it is legal to shoot them.

  304. TxRaider210 Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 27th, 2012 at 6:08 am
    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 27th, 2012 at 6:06 am
    Klas

    That looks like some damn good food man, wish we had those in the states, heck of a lot better than Wac Arnolds.
    ——-
    Yeah, Mcdonald’s is like eating troll testicles.

    ——————–
    Some of their menu items might even be worse than troll nards.lol

  305. Raider Riff Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 27th, 2012 at 6:10 am
    Guest123 Says:
    August 27th, 2012 at 6:07 am
    I’m not down with people who can’t respect personal property like a baseball cap of the opposing team.
    ——–
    In Sweden you touch a man’s hat it is legal to shoot them.

    ———-

    In the Nation of Raider, city of the Black Hole, its illegal to be a fan of the other team.

    Punishable by constant verbal abuse, possible hot doggings, Mustard & Ketsup from the luxury box above, and the occasional alcohol abuse in the form of a 12oz beer being thrown at you.

    I saw a 9′er fans jersey get lit on fire in the Black Hole once.

    They dont belong in our stadium. I dont care how we get rid of them, just that they leave and leave unhappy.

  306. TxRaider210 Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 27th, 2012 at 6:10 am
    Guest123 Says:
    August 27th, 2012 at 6:07 am
    I’m not down with people who can’t respect personal property like a baseball cap of the opposing team.
    ——–
    In Sweden you touch a man’s hat it is legal to shoot them.

    ———————
    Should be the same in the states, considered assault, just no weapons allowed in the stadium.

  307. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Hey Klas just met you / and this is crazy
    Pryor can play ball / may be QB maybe

  308. TxRaider210 Says:

    Raider Riff Says:
    August 27th, 2012 at 6:13 am
    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 27th, 2012 at 6:10 am
    Guest123 Says:
    August 27th, 2012 at 6:07 am
    I’m not down with people who can’t respect personal property like a baseball cap of the opposing team.
    ——–
    In Sweden you touch a man’s hat it is legal to shoot them.

    ———-

    In the Nation of Raider, city of the Black Hole, its illegal to be a fan of the other team.

    Punishable by constant verbal abuse, possible hot doggings, Mustard & Ketsup from the luxury box above, and the occasional alcohol abuse in the form of a 12oz beer being thrown at you.

    I saw a 9′er fans jersey get lit on fire in the Black Hole once.

    They dont belong in our stadium. I dont care how we get rid of them, just that they leave and leave unhappy.

    ———————
    I suggest using a foghorn, like on boats, for the unruley fans of other teams.

  309. guest123 Says:

    I wan’t the opposing team fans to leave unhappy too, but because their team just got spanked and they had to endure it, but not because of a bunch of punka$$ idiot fans who don’t know the rules for trashtalk. If you got ammo to talk ish, then by all means bring the noise, but if it’s just being a windbag and bully nonsense, keep it to yourself.

  310. Raider Riff Says:

    My own older brother got kicked out of the Black Hole (section 105) by the other Raider fans the first game we had our season tickets.

    He wasnt wearing all black head to toe. I warned him before we went to the game. He insisted on wearing his white Raiders jersey.

    He was threatened with physical violence and I looked at him and said “I warned ya, get your a55 up to the souvenir stand and buy a black Raiders shirt”

    I miss those people. Once we earned our keep we got to know everyone in there and they had our back for years. A really good time in our lives.

  311. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Dudes wearing Bronco or Charger jersey at Raider game should be tarred and feathered on the field at half time.

  312. TxRaider210 Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 27th, 2012 at 6:17 am
    Dudes wearing Bronco or Charger jersey at Raider game should be tarred and feathered on the field at half time.

    ———————–
    Damn good plan Klas, and the Chefs can be covered in Indian feathers.

  313. guest123 Says:

    See, back in the old days when the Raiders team on the field were bullies and intimidators, Raider fans could sit back and enjoy watching opposing fans cringe when we hit them and knocked them out on the field. Sure there was trash talk back then, but when you KNOW your team is better and tougher, you had the luxury of quietly awaiting the next big hit and big play. Winning football was routine, and opposing fans really didn’t bring much noise.

  314. hwnrdr Says:

    I remember this one guy wearing a Elway jersey talking smack while in line for the porta puddies. As soon as he got in, 6 guys tiped the porta puddie over. the guy rolled out covered with crap (if you can imagine). All 7 got kicked out of the parking lot then. Funny thing about that is that we weren’t even playing the Donkeys that day!

  315. Raider Riff Says:

    The very first game we ever went too, was Chiefs vs Raiders on Monday Nite back in ‘96 or ‘97 on Monday Nite. Gannon was the QB of the Chiefs. Bugel was our coach.

    We had seats on the second level just below the Luxury Boxes

    There was a Chiefs fan sitting about 8 rows ahead of us.

    The luxury box people above kept yelling down at him. “YOU LIKE RED AND YELLOW?”

    And there was a steady stream of ketsup and mustard for most of the game raining down on the guy. They dropped so many hot dogs on him it was crazy. Even a few sodas to wash off the ketsup and mustard.

    We were all teenagers at the time. My older bro wanted to get in on the action. So he went and bought the biggest soda available. Came back to our seats. Reared back and launched it at the dude.

    And in true Seinfeld type fashion, it sailed right over the guys head and completely missed. He ended up hitting what looked like SeaBass from Dumb and Dumber. The dude stands up and turns around and yells “WHO IS THE DEAD MAN?!?!”

    My older brother was scared as all heck. All the Raider fans in our section, every single one, simply pointed at the Chiefs fan and blamed him.

    You know the rest.

  316. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 27th, 2012 at 6:10 am
    Guest123 Says:
    August 27th, 2012 at 6:07 am
    I’m not down with people who can’t respect personal property like a baseball cap of the opposing team.
    ——–
    In Sweden you touch a man’s hat it is legal to shoot them.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    You must have really bad breath.

  317. TxRaider210 Says:

    hwnrdr Says:
    August 27th, 2012 at 6:23 am
    I remember this one guy wearing a Elway jersey talking smack while in line for the porta puddies. As soon as he got in, 6 guys tiped the porta puddie over. the guy rolled out covered with crap (if you can imagine). All 7 got kicked out of the parking lot then. Funny thing about that is that we weren’t even playing the Donkeys that day!

    ——————
    LOL Dang, I parked my truck in front of the porto to mess with people, but that’s brutal.

  318. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    DONT MIND PEOPLE “CHEERING” AS LONG AS BAD LANGUAGE IS NOT INVOLVED WHEN WOMEN AND KIDS R CLOSE.HAVE HAD TO CALL A GUY FOR M-F’N EVERY OTHER WORD A TIME OR TWO.THAT GETS OLD QUICK..

  319. Raider Riff Says:

    Anyone else remember back when Marino used to always kill us at home?

    An infamous story is when a guy wearing a Marino jersey got beat up and thrown in the pisser trough of the bathroom in the stadium.

    People stood in line to piss on the guy.

  320. fingers Says:

    We use to make bets on which loud mouthed opposing fan at Raider games would get ejected or his A$$ kicked… All the years I’ve been going to Raiders games I never saw anybody have a problem that didn’t ask for it….I was born in Richmond and been to lots of Raider games… Raiders fans are the best…tailgates are the best …. We always take a walk around the lots to take in the sights… Awesome ..

  321. guest123 Says:

    I too feel like I’m a minority that I hate foul mouthed language at games. It’s ok to cuss under your breath every once in a while when it’s warranted I guess. But the people who have to use M’FN every other word as the adjective for every thing or player have to go. It’s noise pollution at some point and irritating as a wailing baby or a dry fart.

  322. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Holy crap fellers……

    After our FF draft yesterday, I had to drive to Las Cruces for work.

    Well, I was diagnosed a diabetic a few months ago, and have been watching my diet since, but broke free yesterday on the drive and cheated.

    Well, long story short, I was feeling like crap about halfway on the drive, and was looking for a place to pull over, but there wasn’t any rest stops and didn’t want to pull over on the shoulder, so I tried to plow on.

    Only, I blacked-out for a second, doing 80 on a 2 lane highway, veered across traffic, missed going head-on with a tree by about 3 feet, and ended up about 30 feet off the road in a ditch.

    Not religious at all, but man, someone was watching out for your buddy. Not only did I have nothing health wise wrong after about 20 minutes, I didn’t hit anybody else, just missed the tree, didn’t pop any tires, airbag didn’t employ, and after the tow truck pulled me out of the ditch, I was back on the road in two hours!!!!

    I feel like a got a second chance at life.

    Sorry to take this so serious this morning. How the hell is the Nation today, lol???!!!???

  323. fingers Says:

    Raider fans are pretty good at policing our own… All my experiences have been good ones…
    Love walking into the game and hearing all our fans chant Raiiiidddeerrrrs …

  324. TxRaider210 Says:

    guest123 Says:
    August 27th, 2012 at 6:31 am
    I too feel like I’m a minority that I hate foul mouthed language at games. It’s ok to cuss under your breath every once in a while when it’s warranted I guess. But the people who have to use M’FN every other word as the adjective for every thing or player have to go. It’s noise pollution at some point and irritating as a wailing baby or a dry fart.

    —————-
    LOL@ dry fart. Yeah I agree, it should be a family friendly atmosphere, kids are the future and games mean a lot to them.

  325. fingers Says:

    Just fire… Glad your ok.. That’s serious… Take care ..

  326. Raider Riff Says:

    I remember another time before we had the season tickets and we used to scalp seats in any part of the stadium we could. It was a Sunday Nite game against the Jets.

    We sat on the third level. Things were always the craziest up there. People doing lines of cocaine in the bathroom. Lots of joints being passed around. Crazy brawls in the stands.

    I remember a dude admitting to being a 49er fan in the bathroom. There must have been a 100 people packed in this huge bathroom on the third deck. The guy would not shut up. You could hear him above everyone else.

    Someone finally yelled for him to STFU. He didnt

    So another dude yelled “Wheres your Raider gear dude?”

    In a bathroom of 100 wear most people were in black jerseys and nobody wasnt wearing Raider attire, this guy really stood out even without all his banter.

    After being pointed out for not wearing any gear, the bathroom got dead silent. It felt like a prison shanking was about to take place.

    The guy responds by saying “hey bro’s, Im a 49er fan. Im just here representing the bay! We’re all on the same team bro’s”

    Immediately after saying that, the guy was basically standing by himself. The entire crowd formed a circle around him and started shoving him. It was like monkey in the middle.

    I was stoked because I now could go take a piss. Everyone was distracted. I just wanted to get out of there cause I thought for sure this guy was going to get stabbed.

    That was in the 1st quarter.

    I returned late in the 3rd. And the guy was still in there getting pushed around. For nearly 2 hours people kept going into the bathroom and joining in on the fracas, not even knowing how it started.

    Definitely one of the crazier things I’d ever seen.

  327. Raider Riff Says:

    Didnt Raider fans used to hang Len Dawson manequins from the 2nd level back in the day? Hang em from a noose and light it on fire?

    I wish I was around back then.

  328. TxRaider210 Says:

    JFB

    Glad to hear you’re ok bro, I’ve fallen asleep at the wheel before, not the same but scary as schit either way.

  329. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    JFB, glad your OK. Thank Tebow you are still alive.

  330. Just Fire Baby Says:

    JFB, glad your OK. Thank Tebow you are still alive.

    ***********************

    LOL….maybe my tolerance for Tebow saved me.

    Made me miss the game last night though!!!!

  331. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    The very first game we ever went too, was Chiefs vs Raiders on Monday Nite back in ‘96 or ‘97 on Monday Nite. Gannon was the QB of the Chiefs. Bugel was our coach.
    ================================================
    Really bad loss.

    In all too typical last second style to the Chefs.

    Amazing how quick Terry McDaniel went from being a good corner, to an over-the-hill washed up nobody overnight. One of the most sudden and precipitous drop offs ever.

    Bugel kept the locker room closed to the press.

    Very bad night for the Raids.

  332. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Not trying to take the convo or mood onto me, just want to pass the story on, maybe you can go hug your wife or kids or moms and be thankful for life.

    Any hoot, I thought Powell and Henry might push a roster spot? Guess not.

  333. guest123 Says:

    I liked both Powell and Henry too. Mildly surprised they are among the first cuts. Stange to imagine both DVD and Chekwa on the roster bubble. SMH

  334. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    August 27th, 2012 at 6:32 am
    Holy crap fellers……

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Wow!
    You need not to cheat in the future Vegas and maybe its time to become religious.

    Glad you survived man.
    You’re one of guys who sometimes makes sense on this blog.

  335. Raider Riff Says:

    Guest123 Says:
    August 27th, 2012 at 6:31 am
    I too feel like I’m a minority that I hate foul mouthed language at games. It’s ok to cuss under your breath every once in a while when it’s warranted I guess. But the people who have to use M’FN every other word as the adjective for every thing or player have to go. It’s noise pollution at some point and irritating as a wailing baby or a dry fart.

    —————–

    Language doesnt bother me. It’s America. I respect the 1st amendment too much.

    Last year I went to the Sandy Eggo game on Thursday nite.

    During the National Anthem my buddy and I were having a conversation amongst ourselves. Not loud in the least bit. Hats at our hearts.

    The Raider fans next to us were super pissed. The military douche comes over and threatens my buddy. Says, “I didnt go risk my life in Iraq so you could disgrace the national anthem by talking during it, have some respect before I kick your ass”

    I couldnt help but start laughing out loud. The irony was incredible. He then turned his attention to me and wanted to go. His friends grabbed him and pulled him back before crap went down.

    It’s so funny that he actually thought he was in Iraq to defend our freedoms, yet he was willing to throw down and do physical harm over us “civilians” exercising those freedoms.

    It reminds me of all the dads out there who get pissed when you cuss in public in front of their kids. And then they want to fight you. As if getting in a fist fight in front of their kids is some sort of moral high ground compared to having a foul mouth. Neanderthal man at its finnest.

  336. Raider Riff Says:

    RAIDERMAN99 Says:
    August 27th, 2012 at 6:38 am
    The very first game we ever went too, was Chiefs vs Raiders on Monday Nite back in ‘96 or ‘97 on Monday Nite. Gannon was the QB of the Chiefs. Bugel was our coach.
    ================================================
    Really bad loss.

    In all too typical last second style to the Chefs.

    Amazing how quick Terry McDaniel went from being a good corner, to an over-the-hill washed up nobody overnight. One of the most sudden and precipitous drop offs ever.

    Bugel kept the locker room closed to the press.

    Very bad night for the Raids.

    ——–

    We won the game. It was raining.

    Not the game where we choked away a great performance by Tim Brown. I remember that one. I was like 13. I might have cried that night. School was rough that week.

  337. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Stange to imagine both DVD and Chekwa on the roster bubble.

    *****************************

    I thought DVD, Lee and McCann are fighting for 2 spots, and I would think Chekwa would be safe, but who knows.

    Nobody has really stood out amongst the 2nd tier DB’s.

  338. hwnrdr Says:

    DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
    August 27th, 2012 at 6:27 am
    DONT MIND PEOPLE “CHEERING” AS LONG AS BAD LANGUAGE IS NOT INVOLVED WHEN WOMEN AND KIDS R CLOSE.HAVE HAD TO CALL A GUY FOR M-F’N EVERY OTHER WORD A TIME OR TWO.THAT GETS OLD QUICK..

    Yes, I slipped a couple times, but I quickly apologized! The first int got me riled up, I was like DAMMITT! The guys in my section were laughing and we were all having a good time until…

  339. Bob Marley Says:

    JFB.

    Take care of yourself man, glad you’re ok.

  340. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Pat Lee almost picked off my boy Kellen Moore twice.

  341. Raider Riff Says:

    Glad to hear your ok JFB.

  342. Raider Riff Says:

    I liked what I saw of Kellen Moore.

  343. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Sitting on Mt. Davis for years, you would always see the guy cursing all the time, passed out by halftime.

  344. hwnrdr Says:

    Also, I know it wasn’t sold out but that security thing at the gate went by quick. I believe we were in the game in 10 minutes…I know Monday night is gonna be crazy as heck!

  345. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    NFL fans got nothing on European soccer fans for bad behavior.

  346. Raider Riff Says:

    ust Fire Baby Says:
    August 27th, 2012 at 6:49 am
    Sitting on Mt. Davis for years, you would always see the guy cursing all the time, passed out by halftime.

    ———–

    Who was passed out, Al?

    No wonder he thought our defense was good. He always missed the collapses.

  347. guest123 Says:

    I won’t attempt to fight you in front of my kids for cussing, but will be annoyed to the point that I will consider leaving the venue if I can’t find a reasonable group of fans to sit around. See to me, the use of profanity is the sign of a limited mind. It speaks for what you don’t know and can’t comprehend. It does more talking for you than you can possibly understand. My children feel sorry for you more than anything if you are a cusser. I tell them to look at the pottymouth loudmouth’s kids for evidence of what that kind of role model will have on their kids. They understand what I mean.

  348. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Raider Riff Says:
    August 27th, 2012 at 6:49 am
    I liked what I saw of Kellen Moore.
    —-
    Moore looks good but needs to get taller.

  349. Just Fire Baby Says:

    JFB.

    Take care of yourself man, glad you’re ok.

    ******************************

    Thanks Bob.

    I couldn’t help but thinking after shaking out the cobwebs, that I was a few feet away from having my last moments in life be putting the screws to you guys in the draft!!!! (lol)

  350. TxRaider210 Says:

    Raider Riff Says:
    August 27th, 2012 at 6:44 am
    Guest123 Says:
    August 27th, 2012 at 6:31 am
    I too feel like I’m a minority that I hate foul mouthed language at games. It’s ok to cuss under your breath every once in a while when it’s warranted I guess. But the people who have to use M’FN every other word as the adjective for every thing or player have to go. It’s noise pollution at some point and irritating as a wailing baby or a dry fart.

    —————–

    Language doesnt bother me. It’s America. I respect the 1st amendment too much.

    Last year I went to the Sandy Eggo game on Thursday nite.

    During the National Anthem my buddy and I were having a conversation amongst ourselves. Not loud in the least bit. Hats at our hearts.

    The Raider fans next to us were super pissed. The military douche comes over and threatens my buddy. Says, “I didnt go risk my life in Iraq so you could disgrace the national anthem by talking during it, have some respect before I kick your ass”

    I couldnt help but start laughing out loud. The irony was incredible. He then turned his attention to me and wanted to go. His friends grabbed him and pulled him back before crap went down.

    It’s so funny that he actually thought he was in Iraq to defend our freedoms, yet he was willing to throw down and do physical harm over us “civilians” exercising those freedoms.

    It reminds me of all the dads out there who get pissed when you cuss in public in front of their kids. And then they want to fight you. As if getting in a fist fight in front of their kids is some sort of moral high ground compared to having a foul mouth. Neanderthal man at its finnest.

    —————————-
    No kidding right, since he served he has the right to be a tyrant at a game. Too funny!

  351. Raider Riff Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 27th, 2012 at 6:50 am
    NFL fans got nothing on European soccer fans for bad behavior.

    ——–

    I got chased by hooligans one time in London. Lead pipes, chains, crow bars… it was crazy. They didnt think a white boy could run that fast.

  352. hwnrdr Says:

    JFB, someone up there was watching over you! Glad your ok!

  353. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    JFB, I’m glad you’re OK.

    Damn lucky if you were doing 80.

    Was just skimming through your post and I saw the cheating part.

    Figured you were getting a blowie and drove off the road.

    Would have been a better story than the diabetes.

  354. TxRaider210 Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 27th, 2012 at 6:51 am
    Raider Riff Says:
    August 27th, 2012 at 6:49 am
    I liked what I saw of Kellen Moore.
    —-
    Moore looks good but needs to get taller.

    ——————–
    Unless he’s a really late bloomer, I doubt if he hits another growing spurt.lol

  355. guest123 Says:

    I have a lot of respect for the military. They go over to some unGodly places and eat dirt for months at a time to protect our way of life. I’d give them some latitude when it comes to the Nat’l Anthem. I think they deserve that much.

  356. Raider Riff Says:

    Guest123 Says:
    August 27th, 2012 at 6:50 am
    I won’t attempt to fight you in front of my kids for cussing, but will be annoyed to the point that I will consider leaving the venue if I can’t find a reasonable group of fans to sit around. See to me, the use of profanity is the sign of a limited mind. It speaks for what you don’t know and can’t comprehend. It does more talking for you than you can possibly understand. My children feel sorry for you more than anything if you are a cusser. I tell them to look at the pottymouth loudmouth’s kids for evidence of what that kind of role model will have on their kids. They understand what I mean.

    ————–

    And that is the proper & dignified way to handle that situation.

    If you dont like someones language, leave.

    I respect you for that 123. It’s too bad that most people just look for it as an opportunity to throw down.

    If Im watching a game at Hooters or some other sports bar, and someone has their kid in their on gameday, they need to check what environment they walked into. Thats the only places Ive really had issues with overzealous dads.

  357. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 27th, 2012 at 6:53 am
    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 27th, 2012 at 6:51 am
    Raider Riff Says:
    August 27th, 2012 at 6:49 am
    I liked what I saw of Kellen Moore.
    —-
    Moore looks good but needs to get taller.

    ——————–
    Unless he’s a really late bloomer, I doubt if he hits another growing spurt.lol
    —–
    We have some doctors in Sweden who can add 3 inches to your height.

  358. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    POST-355,I AGREE.I FOR ONE CAN SHUT UP 4 TWO MINUTES 4 THE ANTHEM.

  359. DJ Johnny Says:

    On NFL AM (nfln) one of the guys picked Raiders second in Afc West despite his gut telling him to pick Raiders…his only concern was Palmer…and to lesser degree DMAC staying healthy.

    The Palmer int’s have not gone unnoticed by the media.

    I’ve been defending Palmer all along, but he needs to not do that.

    I hope it’s no big deal..chalk it up to preseason, but Palmer sure is getting alot of flack for his preseason int’s.

  360. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Guest123 Says:
    August 27th, 2012 at 6:54 am
    I have a lot of respect for the military. They go over to some unGodly places and eat dirt for months at a time to protect our way of life. I’d give them some latitude when it comes to the Nat’l Anthem. I think they deserve that much.
    ——-
    Sure, but the national anthem at sporting events is just silly. People are there for sports and to get drunk not to be patriotic.

  361. TxRaider210 Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 27th, 2012 at 6:56 am
    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 27th, 2012 at 6:53 am
    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 27th, 2012 at 6:51 am
    Raider Riff Says:
    August 27th, 2012 at 6:49 am
    I liked what I saw of Kellen Moore.
    —-
    Moore looks good but needs to get taller.

    ——————–
    Unless he’s a really late bloomer, I doubt if he hits another growing spurt.lol
    —–
    We have some doctors in Sweden who can add 3 inches to your height.

    —————
    Klas, How in the heck to they pull that off?lol

  362. hwnrdr Says:

    I always stand with my hand over my heart during National Anthem. I kinda look away when people don’t and do talk. I understand the freedom thing but being in the military myself (some 20+ years ago) it does kinda bug me…but like I said, every man, woman, and child has their own right! I just look away.
    There are times I do catch myself firing off a cuss word or two in the passion for the game. But I do quickly apologize, especially when they are kids there. I am not an a**hole especially now that I am older, but it slips and I do admit it is bad! That is why I quickly turn to them and apologize!

  363. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    We have some doctors in Sweden who can add 3 inches to your height.

    —————
    Klas, How in the heck to they pull that off?lol
    ——–
    I think they came from Soviet Union days. You’ve seen Rocky IV, no?

  364. guest123 Says:

    Sure, but the national anthem at sporting events is just silly. People are there for sports and to get drunk not to be patriotic.
    *******

    I won’t argue that it’s silly. Maybe overboard. But how long does the anthem last? 3 minutes? Out of a 4 hour experience of attending a game, it’s not a big deal. I can see it both ways though.

  365. DJ Johnny Says:

    None of the 3 panelists picked Raiders to finish last. I think 2 of the guys said Raiders 2nd.

    We’ll see. If what we see from the D translates to reg season or better yet we only show we are better…

    Look out.

    I didn’t notice Palmers velocity getting weaker as Raiderman 99 mentioned..as far as the pass he’s talking about. It just seemed he missed the throw.

    I DID expect Palmer to look better at this point but I still have his back.

  366. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Hwnrdr, some times you just can’t help dropping an F bomb. I saw 10 year old chanting F*ck Tebow once.

  367. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    Based on the pre-season action I’ve seen, DVD should be an EASY cut.

    Has really looked bad. Poor in coverage. Abysmal tackling.

    There was one play against Detroit where the TE catches a pass right on the sideline. DVD comes up from the side and just has to tap him to knock him out of bounds. DVD did tap him. Looked like a spit ball bouncing off a battleship. TE just brushed him off like a gnat.

    Even with the supposedly great camp and his draft status, if you’re going by performance in the pre-season games only – DVD is a goner.

  368. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Klas is out. Time to milk the cows and smoke a bong.

  369. TxRaider210 Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 27th, 2012 at 7:00 am
    We have some doctors in Sweden who can add 3 inches to your height.

    —————
    Klas, How in the heck to they pull that off?lol
    ——–
    I think they came from Soviet Union days. You’ve seen Rocky IV, no?

    ———————–
    LOL I think the soviets turned Sly into a machine, dude is older than dirt and looks like he could take on governator.

  370. J Hill Says:

    Damn, JFB ….

    Glad your still here instead of angelically being able to help the sorry arsse Giants.

  371. TxRaider210 Says:

    Later Klas good luck with the cows!

  372. hwnrdr Says:

    Our whole section cheers no matter who is singing the anthem and even if they do sound bad doing it! To me it is an honor to be out there in front of drunken craziness singing your heart out for America. We have the right to attend games because of the freedom that our guys and gals serving our country right now to keep that freedom bell ringing!

  373. guest123 Says:

    There are times I do catch myself firing off a cuss word or two in the passion for the game. But I do quickly apologize, especially when they are kids there. I am not an a**hole especially now that I am older, but it slips and I do admit it is bad! That is why I quickly turn to them and apologize!

    ********

    It’s all good Hwnrdr, I don’t think anyone holds you accountable for a few words that slip.

  374. J Hill Says:

    Based on the pre-season action I’ve seen, DVD should be an EASY cut.

    ———————————————————-

    Agreed.

    Amazing how he gets pushed around out there.

  375. Raider Riff Says:

    Guest123 Says:

    it’s not a big deal. I can see it both ways though.

    ————-

    And thats why I respect you on this board. You are pragmatic and your stances are always solid.

    A top 13 member of this board IMO.

  376. guest123 Says:

    We have the right to attend games because of the freedom that our guys and gals serving our country right now to keep that freedom bell ringing!

    *******

    Damn right!

    (oops sorry!)

  377. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    None of the 3 panelists picked Raiders to finish last. I think 2 of the guys said Raiders 2nd.
    ================================================
    I think all 3 of them picked the Chargers to finish last.

  378. hwnrdr Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 27th, 2012 at 7:02 am
    Hwnrdr, some times you just can’t help dropping an F bomb. I saw 10 year old chanting F*ck Tebow once.

    LOL, I would probably in my head say YES, but my kids know…do not repeat! And I would scold them for saying so! Bad reflection on me…

  379. guest123 Says:

    Well thanks Riff for your comment.

  380. Raider Riff Says:

    A lot of DVD bashing going on.

    What do you guys expect our CB corps look like?

    Bartell
    Spencer
    Lee?
    Checkwa?

  381. DJ Johnny Says:

    Some guy was talking about how Routt looks ok with the chiefs based on his name not getting mentioned in the 1st half of one of the preseason games.

    I said sure; you tend to hear his name more often in crucial situations like in the redzone late in games and on 3rd and longs.

  382. hwnrdr Says:

    guest123 Says:
    August 27th, 2012 at 7:06 am
    We have the right to attend games because of the freedom that our guys and gals serving our country right now to keep that freedom bell ringing!

    *******

    Damn right!

    (oops sorry!)

    LOL, its like America…F Yeah!!!

  383. TxRaider210 Says:

    Raider Riff Says:
    August 27th, 2012 at 7:07 am
    A lot of DVD bashing going on.

    What do you guys expect our CB corps look like?

    Bartell
    Spencer
    Lee?
    Checkwa?

    ————————–
    I think Chekwa has more upside than DVD imo, wont they carry 5 DB’s on the roster?

  384. J Hill Says:

    Pryor looked good.

    His running ability is going to open up a lot of single coverage.

  385. guest123 Says:

    LOL, I would probably in my head say YES, but my kids know…do not repeat! And I would scold them for saying so! Bad reflection on me…

    *********

    Reminds me of draft day in ‘09. Relaxing in the swimming pool and the TV announcers talking about Darrius Heyward Bey as the Raiders pick. I must of fired off every F-bomb and other bad word I knew as my head throbbed with a migraine. I had to bribe the kids with ice cream to not tell on me to momma. That was a humbling experience.

  386. Raider Riff Says:

    During the 09 draft I watched it at ESPN Zone at Staples Center.

    I thought the LA Riots were going to erupt. People were looking for sh1t to burn and cars to flip.

    DHB has come a long way.

  387. guest123 Says:

    Pryor did look good. I’d like to see him run routes though but I agree he’d look good in single coverage.

  388. Raider Riff Says:

    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 27th, 2012 at 7:09 am
    Raider Riff Says:
    August 27th, 2012 at 7:07 am
    A lot of DVD bashing going on.

    What do you guys expect our CB corps look like?

    Bartell
    Spencer
    Lee?
    Checkwa?

    ————————–
    I think Chekwa has more upside than DVD imo, wont they carry 5 DB’s on the roster?

    ———

    Yeah, I think 5 or maybe 6?

    Either way, with all the DVD bashing, Im wondering who people think he should be replaced by?

    Nnamdi looked not so hot his first two seasons lets not forget. If DVD is showing growth, why not develop him?

  389. J Hill Says:

    Bartell
    Spencer
    Lee
    Chekwa

    Huff is playing nickel corner.

    Gio
    MM34
    Underwood

    We need one more legit corner.

    DVD ain’t it.

  390. Bob Marley Says:

    I’d keep DVD, he looked bad last pre-season too but ended up as the best CB we had during the season, as far as the burn-percentage rate.

    Huff is going to be our 3rd CB anytime opponets go 3-4 WR, so DVD, Chekwa or Pat Lee are likely to be the 4th and 5th CB’s anyway.

  391. Raider Riff Says:

    Huff is the definite nickel corner?

    I love our safety corps.

    Gio, Huffy, Missile Mike, Branch

    Who comes in to fill in for Huffy when he’s at the nickel? Gio or MM?

  392. Bob Marley Says:

    Riff.

    It looks that way, Gio seems to be the FS when Huff goes to CB….Mitchell for some reason keeps enetering the game with the 2nd team and remains in there with the 3rd, he’s been playing deep into the 4th quarter all pre-season, not sure why.

  393. Plunketthead Says:

    Firebaby
    Take care of you, I like you a little bit, quit that job or at least the driving part
    Best move I ever made was leaving the rat race. Get a job like mine so you can be stress free and sleep like a baby.
    Whenever I get stressed at work, I walk into the cooler, inhale some MM fumes and guzzle a cold beer.
    :smile:

    Your problem may not be stress but it wont hurt to be easy

  394. TxRaider210 Says:

    Raider Riff Says:
    August 27th, 2012 at 7:21 am
    Huff is the definite nickel corner?

    I love our safety corps.

    Gio, Huffy, Missile Mike, Branch

    Who comes in to fill in for Huffy when he’s at the nickel? Gio or MM?

    ——————-
    Agreed, the saftey positions look solid. I think the DVD bashing roots from his lack of size and tackling woes.

  395. hwnrdr Says:

    Gio did pull off a nice int that was called back for roughing the passer…

  396. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    If DVD is showing growth, why not develop him?
    =================================================
    Staff’s call. They’re the ones to make the call if he’s showing growth and to make the projection as to what he can develop into.

    Don’t like discarding players too quickly.

    I remember the first season CJ37 was with the Raids. Saw him play in the pre-season and thought he was beyond hope. Some horrific pre-season performances.

    Was shocked he made the team, but really came to like him as a player later.

    You never know. But DVD looks really light and weak out there. Can’t see him being a player unless he bulks up.

  397. hwnrdr Says:

    I was wondering myself why Mike was in there during the 4th qtr…

  398. Bob Marley Says:

    DVD needs to learn to dive at the guy’s legs every time, he’s not gonna bring them down going above the waist.

  399. TxRaider210 Says:

    hwnrdr Says:
    August 27th, 2012 at 7:26 am
    Gio did pull off a nice int that was called back for roughing the passer…

    ——————
    Yep, and he also made two tackles that looked like they’d have been easy TD’s, one of them being the return Jano got hurt on.

  400. CanuckRaider Says:

    I’m with JFB and Guest123 on the foul language thing…Needing to use the F word in every second sentence just demonstrates a lack of anything useful to say…My niece summed it up one night on the way home from a game I’d taken her to. I had to stop for gas and some drunk idiot walked in swearing his head off about someone he had a beef with. my niece looked at him and quietly said “What a drunken loser”…She was 11 or 12 at the time. Kids have a way with the truth do they not?

  401. TxRaider210 Says:

    The Oakland Raiders have reduced the team’s active roster to the maximum of 75 players in advance of the NFL’s Monday deadline.
    The Oakland Raiders have reduced the team’s active roster to the maximum of 75 players in advance of the National Football League’s Monday deadline of 1 p.m. (PDT).

    The Raiders on Sunday waived LB Korey Bosworth, DE Mason Brodine, DE Wayne Dorsey, S Aaron Henry, CB Terrail Lambert, WR Thomas Mayo, WR DeAundre Muhammad, QB Kyle Newhall-Caballero, S Chaz Powell and FB Manase Tonga, and waived-injured FB Rashawn Jackson and OL Ed Wang.
    ————————
    Here you go gents, from the official site.

  402. CanuckRaider Says:

    I don’t know that I like hearing DA say he’ll play the starters briefly against the Seahawks…Lots of serious injuries this preseason.

  403. Raider Riff Says:

    RAIDERMAN99 Says:
    August 27th, 2012 at 7:27 am
    If DVD is showing growth, why not develop him?
    =================================================
    Staff’s call. They’re the ones to make the call if he’s showing growth and to make the projection as to what he can develop into.

    Don’t like discarding players too quickly.

    I remember the first season CJ37 was with the Raids. Saw him play in the pre-season and thought he was beyond hope. Some horrific pre-season performances.

    Was shocked he made the team, but really came to like him as a player later.

    You never know. But DVD looks really light and weak out there. Can’t see him being a player unless he bulks up.

    —————

    Agreed.

    But I like his size for when it comes to covering the modern 3rd WR.

    Years ago teams were going with TO clones for their 3rd WR (think Jerry Porter) and so DB’s had to get bigger. Too big.

    Al saw this trend and that is why we had Charles Woodson and Nnamdi and the rest. These guys were great but they arent your prototypical DB size.

    As DBs continued to get bigger and bigger to combat TO and Megatron type WR’s, Bellicheat then turned the trend by going with tiny WRs like Wes Welker.

    The Steve Largent clones like Wes Welker were now too small, precise and quick for the larger DB’s of the last decade.

    I think Al started drafting these smaller DB’s for a reason. He knew we’d need a smaller DB to combat the Wes Welkers of the league.

    Nick Miller was supposed to be our Wes Welker.

  404. CanuckRaider Says:

    Thanks Tx…No surprises there…Well, except for young Boz…Say it ain’t so…Lol.

  405. TxRaider210 Says:

    CanuckRaider Says:
    August 27th, 2012 at 7:38 am
    Thanks Tx…No surprises there…Well, except for young Boz…Say it ain’t so…Lol.

    ——————-
    Yep, pretty much how we thought it’d be, Boz lost out to Kilgore I suppose.lol

  406. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    I think DA was pretty pissed at the hold DVD got flagged for when Kellen Moore was at QB late in the game.

    Checkwa was flagged a few plays later.

    Think that’s what DA had in mind when he criticized both of them yesterday.

  407. Raider Riff Says:

    Hwnrdr Says:
    August 27th, 2012 at 7:27 am
    I was wondering myself why Mike was in there during the 4th qtr…

    ——-

    It looks like MM is playing Branch’s roll. Running the secondary.

    The more he plays in that role the better. Even if it is with the scrubs. He seems to really be taking to the defense and showing a good football IQ.

    All the practice is good for him.

  408. CanuckRaider Says:

    DVD’s problem seems to be a lack of confidence…He plays great in practice then plays scared in games…Hope he can get over that…Lots never do.

  409. Raider Riff Says:

    I wouldnt be alarmed at all by the way they are playing MM this preseason.

  410. CanuckRaider Says:

    Agreed about MM Riff…Seems to now have the instincts and smarts to go with that speed and hitting ability…Look out!

  411. hwnrdr Says:

    MM did make one nice play jamming the receiver causing an incomplete in he 4th…timed it perfectly!

  412. TxRaider210 Says:

    Funny how the media is hyping up Peyton’s play the other night, he was decent, but 9ers defense fell of a cliff this year.imo They couldn’t stop the run or pass worth a crap.

  413. Raider Riff Says:

    New post

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