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Moore, Knapp also concerned about timing

By Steve Corkran
Tuesday, August 28th, 2012 at 3:16 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Raiders quartertback Carson Palmer first sounded the alarm when he said he is concerned about the inability to work much with injured wide receivers Jacoby Ford and Denarius Moore. Well, as it turns out, he isn’t the only one worried about the effect it’s going to have once they return.
On Tuesday, offensive coordinator Greg Knapp and Moore said they, too, are worried about not being able to get in as much time as needed in training camp and the first three exhibition games.
“It’s been a huge setback,” Knapp said, “because Denarius, I was very excited to start working with last year in the OTAs, watching all the games last year on tape. To miss the timing of that guy with our quarterback, it’s been tough. It’s been tough, I’ll be honest with you.”
Moore has missed all three exhibition games and hasn’t practiced since Aug. 4 because of a lingering hamstring injury. Ford has been sidelined with a left foot injury since the Arizona Cardinals game Aug. 17.
“I’m very concerned,” Moore said. “As far as getting timing down with the quarterback, that’s very important. And actually being out there and repping each play, getting each concept down. It’s just mental errors, too, that you have to be aware of.”
Moore said he is making progress. He added that he is hopeful that the time he spent with Palmer last season and the offseason workouts will expedite the reacclimation process.
“Yes, it is some confidence right there but, then again, that was last year,” Moore said. “This is a new year, and you’ve got to prove yourself again. That’s what my mind-set is right now, just hurry up and get back out there so I can showcase it again.”
The flip side to the equation is that rookies Juron Criner and Rod Streater have received increased reps and playing time in games with Ford and Moore out so much.
That, in turn, should reap dividends for the Raiders in the long run, Knapp said.
“It has given the opportunity for these young guys to grow and, in the long haul, when Denarius comes back healthy actually might have been a blessing for us.”
Coach Dennis Allen said Ford still isn’t able to run on his injured foot. However, Ford was able to catch some balls from the JUGS machine, and he watched practice without the protective boot on his foot.

– Ford, Moore, defensive tackle Richard Seymour, linebacker Aaron Curry, center Stefen Wisniewski and cornerback Pat Lee did not practice Tuesday.
Tight end Richard Gordon returned to practice after missing some time with sore ribs.

– The Washington Redskins released veteran tight end Chris Cooley on Tuesday morning. When asked about the potential of pursuing Cooley, Allen issued his standard response.
“We’re going to look at anybody that comes available, and I don’t care what the position is,” Allen said. “If we feel like a guy can make us better, then we’re going to look at it. I wouldn’t single out the tight end position.
“What you do in the NFL is, you try to get better every single day, and part of the deal is, when people come across the waiver wire or people get released from other teams, you’re looking. So, yeah, we’ll look look. We’ll look at anybody.”
Allen anointed Brandon Myers the leading candidate to replace released starter Kevin Boss at tight end. Second-year players Davis Ausberry and Gordon remain in the mix for the job.
At one point, it seemed as if Ausberry was being groomed for the role. However, his play has been inconsistent in training camp and the three games so far.
“David’s been a little up and down,” Allen said. “He’s really made some nice plays athletically and then he’s had his mental lapses. But he’s still a young player, and he’s a young player with talent, and I’m excited about getting an opportunity to work with him.”
Cooley is subject to the waiver process, which means he can be claimed by another team within the next 24 hours. If he clears waivers, he is free to sign with any team, including the Redskins.

– Doesn’t sound as if there’s any reason for concern regarding kicker Sebastian Janikowski and his sore groin.
So said Allen, once again.
“I don’t anticipate that being any issue at all,” Allen said.
As for kicking Thursday night, Allen said Janikowski is healthy enough to do so, but that doesn’t mean that the Raiders will rush him back, given the opener is less than two weeks away.

– Knapp knows all too well how loud it gets at the CenturyLink Field in Seattle, the site of the Raiders final exhibition game. If Knapp has his way, it will be plenty loud for the Raiders on Thursday.
“Oh, goodness, I’m hoping it does,” Knapp said. “I would love it to be. We’ve been working on silent cadence in practice for that reason. Spending my year up there in 2009, I did find out some information how they developed that stadium and the echo they created. It is deafening. It’s hard to concentrate in there
“And that’s one reason why, what was it, the Giants had 15 false starts in one game? It’s deafening. So, I’m hoping that we do get that effect because that would be good for our ball club.”

– Knapp found out all he needed to know about rookie wide receiver Rod Streater during one particular sequence early in training camp.
“I’m surprised at how much moxie he’s got for a rookie,” Knapp said. “I kind of knew early on. There was a situation at camp, about week 2, where I lost my vocal chords on the kid and later in that practice, he comes back and makes a big play.
“I pulled him aside and said, ‘That’s exactly what you need to do. If you make a mistake, don’t let somebody yelling at you, somebody booing you or somebody critiquing you on the sideline affect how you do the next down.’ For a rookie, he shows a lot of moxie.”
Streater has caught 18 passes for 165 yards in three exhibition games, tops on the Raiders.

– Criner flashed during offseason workouts every day the media were permitted to watch the proceedings. It wasn’t until Saturday night against the Detroit Lions that we were treated to his penchant for making the difficult look routine.
For good reason, too, Knapp said. It’s easy for young players to shine in offseason workouts, it’s quite another once the learning curve gets accelerated in training camp.
“Yeah, that is a common thing with young guys, especially receivers,” Knapp said. “In the OTAs, when we’re in start-up mode, brand new offense, you don’t teach a whole lot. You just teach the core stuff and get a lot of feel for the core stuff. Once we go to training camp, though, we got to expand our book.
“So, a lot of information came his way and there was a little more thinking going on. But in the last seven days here, you can see how his game has improved. He’s not thinking as much, so he’s executing at a higher level.”
Sure enough, Criner caught two passes for touchdowns against the Lions. Both times, it was his ability to turn a difficult throw into a reception that keyed the plays.
For his part, Criner said he realized that it would take time to learn the offense and reach the point where he could let his ability take over, without thinking so much.
“Yeah, that’s kind of what was expected,” Criner said. “The coaches know that the guys have got a lot of information coming in, coming into a totally new, different style of offense and offensive play. So they’re going to be on you about (missed assignments) and stuff, but they definitely understand that we’re getting it down. But at this point we should be pretty much familiar with the playbook.”

– Roscoe Parrish made his Raiders debut at practice today. He said it was an easy call signing with the Raiders once they called Monday upon his release from the San Diego Chargers.
Now, he is primed to take over the punt-returning duties and do whatever else is asked of him by the Raiders. He also is capable of returning kicks and playing slot receiver, roles he handled from time to time during his seven years with the Buffalo Bills.
Yet, he makes no bones about it, returning punts is his speciality, and that’s what the Raiders are looking for most from him, at least in the short term.
“I’ve been (returning punts) since growing up and just coming over here when they need a returner is kind of like, a good feeling because that’ what I do,” Parrish said. “Just be back there and make plays and just not going to take anything for granted, just go out there. I don’t know how much I’m going to play Thursday. Look forward to being in that black and silver.”
Allen said he is intrigued about Parrish’s punt returning skills, ever mindful of Parrish’s past success in that regard.
“I like the fact that there for a couple years he was in the tops of the league in terms of being able to return the ball,” Allen said. “The fact that he can get under it and catch it and make a move and get upfield and gain some yards for us in the return game. And that’s an area that we got to get better at.”

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316 Responses to “Moore, Knapp also concerned about timing”

  1. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    There are a lot of guys in prison named Dennis Allen. Google his name and lots mug shots come up.

  2. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Mistic is a joke.

  3. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    yo

  4. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    yo yo yo

  5. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
    Mistic is a joke.
    ———–
    I second that

  6. Dakota Says:

    255.oakfoshow Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
    Al has drafted and sighned more great corners than anybody else in the history of the nfl.

    ++++++++++++

    now we are throwing in “sighned” CBs…..I see, that is a tough call to make….hey that guy is good, sign him!

  7. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Dakota Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
    255.oakfoshow Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
    Al has drafted and sighned more great corners than anybody else in the history of the nfl.

    ++++++++++++

    now we are throwing in “sighned” CBs…..I see, that is a tough call to make….hey that guy is good, sign him!
    ——
    Al has drafted and signed more bad corners too.

  8. RaiderRob Says:

    255.oakfoshow Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
    Al has drafted and sighned more great corners than anybody else in the history of the nfl.
    ========================
    Al has also signed more bust corners than anybody else in the history of the NFL.

    The list of great corners is short. List of bust dbacks is a lot longer.

  9. Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:

    DVD is what 5th/6th on the depth chart?

    Keep an extra DT, create pressure, and let DVD work things out on the practice squad.

  10. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Just Win Baby Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
    Parrish couldn’t make the team in SD and they are desperate for receivers. I dont see him as anything more than a temp fill-in until Ford and/or Moore are healthy.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    This morning you contradicted me and said that you liked the pickup.

    Reality tells us that Parrish played only two games last year because of that bad ankle of his and hasn’t played that many games over the last 3-4 years.

    Reality also tells us that the dischargers got him through free agency from Buffalo-who couldn’t wait to lose him- and after a look the dischargers dumped him too.

    He can’t cost much though so it doesn’t hurt to look.

  11. TxRaider210 Says:

    Parrish is sneaky fast, hell of a pick up.imo

  12. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
    DVD is what 5th/6th on the depth chart?

    Keep an extra DT, create pressure, and let DVD work things out on the practice squad.

    —-

    1. He wouldnt make it thru waivers to get to the practice squad.

    2. He isnt eligible for the practice squad.

    3. He isnt going to be cut.

  13. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
    Parrish is sneaky fast, hell of a pick up.imo

    —-

    Im a Miami Hurricane fan.

    There is nothing sneaky about his speed.

    Dude is a flat out burner.

    Agreed, hell of a pick up.

  14. DKnight007 Says:

    Doesn’t matter what who returns kicks or punts. What matters is the special teams coaches blocking schemes and execution of his plans.

    Hoffman plans seem to be chit!

  15. alex7 Says:

    The Visor knows his football. Refreshing.

    Reading the last article’s comments, you can tell that most people complaining about the ZBS not being “smashmouth” enough or successful at the goal-line have no idea what the ZBS even is.

  16. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
    Mistic is a joke.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    MR announces that Mistic is a joke?!
    And here’s MR pretending to be from Sweden.

    At least he doesn’t come on as anyone other than himself MR.

  17. TxRaider210 Says:

    DAV

    I only mean sneaky in the sense of great footwork and smaller in size, hard to see for a defender.

  18. TxRaider210 Says:

    I’d also consider Smurf12 sneaky fast, but a few days back he was in a sneaker-boot:(

  19. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
    DAV

    I only mean sneaky in the sense of great footwork and smaller in size, hard to see for a defender.

    —-

    For sure..

  20. 8RaiderReign8 Says:

    Get Vontae Davis!!!!!

    Now!

  21. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 3:14 pm

    jake Locker, christian ponder, brandon weeden, tannehill, gabbert have ranged between lees than spectacular to out right awful during the course of games.
    —–
    LOL @ Mistic, this is why people rag on you. You go out of your way to say negative things about white QBs but never black QBs.
    ………………..

    I will answer you only once today you are not worth any more energy than that. Dont try to butcher my post and make it into something it isnt. I was comparing pryor to young qb including guys that wil start next year that are question marks. locker, ponder gabbert and pryor are all in the same draft class. weeden has already been named a starter as well.

    only you googled the qbs to find out what their racial background was.

    Typical trash

  22. TxRaider210 Says:

    Didn’t the Colts just trade for Vontae, and he’s short?

  23. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    8RaiderReign8 Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
    Get Vontae Davis!!!!!

    Now!

    —-

    He was traded to the Colts..

  24. Dakota Says:

    Reggie is going to keep his draft picks and roll with the hot mess Al left him, so he can finally draft some football players next year.

    Trust Reggie’s gut.

  25. TxRaider210 Says:

    I believe the new regime is about 6 foot or taller WR’s and the same for DB’s, other than Gio. Reg wants a mean D and big physical guys at WR.

  26. alex7 Says:

    The next time I see Pryor work inside the pocket, step up and deliver an accurate pass in rhythm…

    will be the first.

    According to the people who have watched the practices, and the NFL scouts who passed on him 64+ times, they haven’t seen it much either.

  27. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Honestly, I think the tape measurer has been thrown in the tool box.

    There is no size Reggie is looking for, just players. He wants good, smart football players regardless of size & shape.

  28. alex7 Says:

    As mentioned before, Pryor’s CEILING will be Tim Tebow – a guy you can create a package of plays for.

    And that ceiling is likely 1+ years away. Accuracy is not a skill that NFL QBs improve on much. They typically already had it in college.

  29. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Footwork & Accuracy, yes Pryor needs to work on them.

    There is a horse, who happens to be already dead, and you are kicking it.

  30. TxRaider210 Says:

    DAV

    I thought the same, but look at the DBs and LBs especially, I think about 5 LBs are 6′2 236-240.

  31. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Raiders have interest in Chris Cooley, but at this time there is no plan to sign him.

  32. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
    DAV

    I thought the same, but look at the DBs and LBs especially, I think about 5 LBs are 6′2 236-240.

    —-

    Well, I mean im not saying he’s gonna sign a 5′7 195 LB lol…

    Im just saying size isnt gonna be the deciding factor in player eval anymore..

  33. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    – Ford, Moore, defensive tackle Richard Seymour, linebacker Aaron Curry, center Stefen Wisniewski and cornerback Pat Lee did not practice Tuesday.
    ================================================
    Corky, there’s really no reason to list Seymour as not practicing.

    You can save the ink and key strokes and just let us know when he does practice. That’ll be news.

  34. alex7 Says:

    Greg Jennings is 5′11″ and Randall Cobb is 5′10″ so I don’t think Reggie is prejudiced on WR height.

  35. TxRaider210 Says:

    DAV

    I hear you man, another positive I see is them being at weight, what the coach wants them at. See Houston, much faster after dropping weight.

  36. Tricky70390 Says:

    SIGN CHRIS COOLEY NOW

  37. TxRaider210 Says:

    Jennings is also 200 lbs and mean.lol

  38. alex7 Says:

    remember that NCAA football game glitch that had a 0′ 9″ linebacker? Think it was around 2008. Little dot would just squirrel up on a RB and DROP the hammer.

  39. TxRaider210 Says:

    If Coolster agrees on the cheap, sign him if he is game healthy.

  40. Raider O Says:

    I like Vontae Davis.

  41. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    MR announces that Mistic is a joke?!
    And here’s MR pretending to be from Sweden.

    At least he doesn’t come on as anyone other than himself MR.
    ===============================================
    I really wish you wouldn’t blow MR’s cover.

    Klas is the only one of his personalities that is remotely bearable.

    I encourage him to continue developing the Swede angle and hope he doesn’t return to being Sully44.

  42. TxRaider210 Says:

    O

    I think Vontae is better than Asante, but would want taller starting CB’s versus the elite WRs.imo

  43. No Mas Diamante Says:

    Tricky70390 Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
    SIGN CHRIS COOLEY NOW
    *****************************************

    We have enough fullbacks and back up tight ends thanks. I’d rather have J. Shockey

  44. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    alex7 Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 3:45 pm

    As mentioned before, Pryor’s CEILING will be Tim Tebow – a guy you can create a package of plays for.

    And that ceiling is likely 1+ years away. Accuracy is not a skill that NFL QBs improve on much. They typically already had it in college.
    ============================

    I disagree, hen is already better than tebow as a passer. In terms of young qbs i would compare him to jake locker or colin kapernic.

    I would say he will better than vy because of his mental toughness, and drive to be the best. i think he can be like randal cunnigham, the minisota version

  45. Tricky70390 Says:

    Chris Cooley didn’t get cut because he was garbage. He got cut because Fred Davis is just better.

    He’s still a starting caliber TE in this league. Something the Raiders don’t have.

  46. TxRaider210 Says:

    Bring in Cooley, Slaton and B McFadden for depth.

  47. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Watching tp all through his ohio state days until now I have noticed that he has huge respect for the nfl athlete. In college he often seemed to get by on the fact that he was just a man amogst boys athleticly. At times he over estimated his own abilty and he would force throws into beleieving he could beat coverage with arm strength. this resulted in throwing late or off balance and at times.

    A major improvement has been that he isnt relying on arm strenght, instead he is making reads and finding the single coverage. Almost every throw he has attempted has been into single coverage. in fact the only time he forced the ball was on the hail mary, and the nullified pick vs detroit where he coupled the force with being late over the middle.

    The fact that he has only made 2 glaring mistakes reading the defense ( arguably 1 if you dismiss the hail mary)is very encouraging

  48. alex7 Says:

    Tricky, true.

    Mistic, Tebow sliced up the Steelers D when it mattered and is given by scouts a higher passing mark than Pryor.

    Pryor is a THIRD STRING HB/QB right now. Think about how bad backup QBs are. Now imagine how bad a third string QB must be.

  49. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    It may just turn out that pryor was the steal of the draft, and the sleeper in his class. years from now he may even be considered in the top of that class

  50. alex7 Says:

    So Pryor is reading the D correctly, and STILL completing only half of his passes vs 3rd string defenders?

    Yikes.

    And remember that even fewer of his completions have been from within the pocket. Can’t play street-ball like he did games 1 and 2.

  51. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    alex7 Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 4:10 pm

    Tricky, true.

    Mistic, Tebow sliced up the Steelers D when it mattered and is given by scouts a higher passing mark than Pryor.

    Pryor is a THIRD STRING HB/QB right now. Think about how bad backup QBs are. Now imagine how bad a third string QB must be.
    ===============

    tebow is a winner ,and his abilty to make the timely throw coupled with tough running made them hard to defend. he had the game of his life vs the steelers, so he deserves credit.

    For the record i thought pryor was better even while he was in college. If you have paid attention tebow learning a new offnese this year has clearly regressed and look like crap. Try 4/14 with a pick last week playing against the scrubs.

    Juxtaposed to pryor 3/5 137 yds 2tds plus 5 rushes for 90 yards and a td

    upon close examination of recent events it appears that pryor will be much better than tebow and already is a better passer.

    He is only behind tebow in game reps

  52. No Mas Diamante Says:

    Call me crazy, but as far as Pryor and Leinert are concerned, I think the team should seriously consider making Pryor the primary back up (if he plays well in Seattle, that is) and have Matt come as the third qb this season.
    Think about it: If Palmer goes down, knock on wood, defenses would be caught flatfooted and unprepared with Pryor’s vastly different skill set and talents, kind of like teblow but better. Also, opposing defenses would have to devote valuable practice time game planning against player they may not even face, while also gameplaning our primary offense.
    My issue with Matt L. is his durability. There’s a good chance Pryor is going to be in there at some point anyway, so why not at least let him split second string snaps with Leinart. Pryor has too much to offer to waste on the bench.

  53. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    Just to show that I won’t just blast Gregg Krapp for his lousy calls and plays – I want to give him some credit for the play design that resulted in the TD play to Criner on the crossing route.

    A closer examination of the play reveals that not only was Criner open on the deep cross, but the intermediate cross was there too. Additionally, if TP wanted to, he could have turned the corner and run with the rock for a sizeable gain. To his credit, he kept his eyes upfield and made the right choice to go to Criner for the bigger gain. Extremely accurate throw too. His best yet.

    Keep running TP sprint right. Throw in the possibility of a reverse off of that, and as Hank Stram said in the SB vs. the Vikes – ‘they can’t stop that in a million years’.

  54. Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:

    Excellent, then no worries about having to keep DVD on the PS, just straight up cut him and we won’t ever have to discuss how he’s a rising star…

  55. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    Call me crazy, but as far as Pryor and Leinert are concerned, I think the team should seriously consider making Pryor the primary back up (if he plays well in Seattle, that is) and have Matt come as the third qb this season.
    ===================================================
    Nothing crazy about it. Been saying that for months now.

    Wasting snaps on Matt Lice is absurd.

    Ain’t no future with Lice.

  56. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    alex7 Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 4:13 pm

    So Pryor is reading the D correctly, and STILL completing only half of his passes vs 3rd string defenders?

    Yikes.

    And remember that even fewer of his completions have been from within the pocket. Can’t play street-ball like he did games 1 and 2.
    ====================

    1. pryors td passes were not “street ball” as you put it. One pass was a straight drop, he stepped up in the pocket and launched the bomb for the score. The second was a play fake and designed roll out, and pryor went to his fourth read the man deepest down the field and delivered a perfect strike while on on the move.

    2. He was 3/5 last week which shows that he can complete more then 50% of his passes while learning the playbook, his team mates and the nfl in general as a rookie.

  57. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    RAIDERMAN99 Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 4:22 pm

    Just to show that I won’t just blast Gregg Krapp for his lousy calls and plays – I want to give him some credit for the play design that resulted in the TD play to Criner on the crossing route.

    A closer examination of the play reveals that not only was Criner open on the deep cross, but the intermediate cross was there too. Additionally, if TP wanted to, he could have turned the corner and run with the rock for a sizeable gain. To his credit, he kept his eyes upfield and made the right choice to go to Criner for the bigger gain. Extremely accurate throw too. His best yet.

    Keep running TP sprint right. Throw in the possibility of a reverse off of that, and as Hank Stram said in the SB vs. the Vikes – ‘they can’t stop that in a million years’.
    ===========================

    jet sweep, ghost motions, zone reads so many ways to be creative with a qb like pryor and all of the speed we have at the skill spots.

    I think this kid can take us into the space age

  58. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    No Mas Diamante Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 4:20 pm

    Call me crazy, but as far as Pryor and Leinert are concerned, I think the team should seriously consider making Pryor the primary back up (if he plays well in Seattle, that is) and have Matt come as the third qb this season.
    Think about it: If Palmer goes down, knock on wood, defenses would be caught flatfooted and unprepared with Pryor’s vastly different skill set and talents, kind of like teblow but better. Also, opposing defenses would have to devote valuable practice time game planning against player they may not even face, while also gameplaning our primary offense.
    My issue with Matt L. is his durability. There’s a good chance Pryor is going to be in there at some point anyway, so why not at least let him split second string snaps with Leinart. Pryor has too much to offer to waste on the bench.
    =========================

    agreed if carson craps out by mid season ( hope he doesnt) hand it to pryor. We wouldnt learn anything about lienart we dont already know, he peaked at usc. It would give us a valuable opportunity to size up pryor. also if he played well it could mane preparing him fo our future by giving him starts in an otherwise meaningless rebuilding year.

    From a biz standpoint it would also sell some tickets

  59. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    i think pryor will be better than vy, and kordell

  60. Intrepid Says:

    Thec Says: Wizard of Auz is even slower than JCRINER at WR even with the weight loss….His ONLY hope is to learn the TE spot…//////////////////////Ausberry 40 yard dash time: 4.46 seconds junior criner 4.68

  61. 504 Raider Says:

    Isaac getting closer to the N.O.

    Wind outside is picking up and a light rain is coming down. Was just outside looking at the trees blowing sideways. Then I see two black trash cans rolling down the side street. For a split second I thought I saw a car riding with no frame and no people. Was about to freak out.

  62. Seymour Bush Says:

    You guys might want to reel it in a tiny bit. Pryor has played one decent half of football against a bunch of scrubs. His other two appearances were not very good. Against scrubs.

  63. Seymour Bush Says:

    504 Raider Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 4:37 pm

    Isaac getting closer to the N.O.

    Wind outside is picking up and a light rain is coming down. Was just outside looking at the trees blowing sideways. Then I see two black trash cans rolling down the side street. For a split second I thought I saw a car riding with no frame and no people. Was about to freak out.
    =================================

    Stay safe there 504!

  64. KoolKell Says:

    Interesting how the “True Red Blooded Raider Fans” suck on Tebow and hate on Pryor.

  65. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    One pass was a straight drop, he stepped up in the pocket and launched the bomb for the score.
    =================================================
    Uhh, yeah. But take a closer look at the play.
    TP’s footwork on the throw wasn’t very good. He did not fully step up. Had he stepped up more authoritatively the ball probably wouldn’t have been underthrown.

    Actually was NOT a good throw by TP. Criner is going to win the jump ball against that Corner every time, but TP should have put some more distance on the toss.

  66. Seymour Bush Says:

    i think pryor will be better than vy, and kordell
    ================================

    I would hope so. Neither of those guys did very much to distinguish themselves, once they got in the league.

  67. 504 Raider Says:

    Thanks Seymour,
    We’re good down here. Just another rainy day. Many, Many people decided to stay through this one. Isaac’s a baby.

  68. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    RAIDERMAN99 Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 3:57 pm
    MR announces that Mistic is a joke?!
    And here’s MR pretending to be from Sweden.

    At least he doesn’t come on as anyone other than himself MR.
    ===============================================
    I really wish you wouldn’t blow MR’s cover.

    Klas is the only one of his personalities that is remotely bearable.

    I encourage him to continue developing the Swede angle and hope he doesn’t return to being Sully44.
    —–
    I AM NOT MR. MY NAME IS KLAS, AND I AM SEXY.

  69. RaiderLen Says:

    RAIDERMAN99 Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 4:40 pm
    One pass was a straight drop, he stepped up in the pocket and launched the bomb for the score.
    =================================================
    Uhh, yeah. But take a closer look at the play.
    TP’s footwork on the throw wasn’t very good. He did not fully step up. Had he stepped up more authoritatively the ball probably wouldn’t have been underthrown.

    Actually was NOT a good throw by TP. Criner is going to win the jump ball against that Corner every time, but TP should have put some more distance on the toss.
    ——————————————-
    I’d just say that TP wasn’t standing in the parking lot playing catch.

    Plenty of HOF QB’s have made the same throw with the same result.

    Not saying TP is a HOF’er, just pointing out that even the best can under/over throw a rout, or mis fire completely.

  70. Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:

    Too bad VY stopped playing football after beating USC

  71. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    RAIDERMAN99 Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 4:40 pm

    One pass was a straight drop, he stepped up in the pocket and launched the bomb for the score.
    =================================================
    Uhh, yeah. But take a closer look at the play.
    TP’s footwork on the throw wasn’t very good. He did not fully step up. Had he stepped up more authoritatively the ball probably wouldn’t have been underthrown.

    Actually was NOT a good throw by TP. Criner is going to win the jump ball against that Corner every time, but TP should have put some more distance on the toss.
    =======================

    he stepped up but there was penetration on the line coming right to his face. So he changed the arc of his motion to get the ball off. The ball was a jump ball but thats fine when your in one on one coverage and your wr has height advantage. No different from the deep ball palmer threw to dhb

  72. Seymour Bush Says:

    The thing is the league caught up to Teblows pretty quickly. The same thing with Cam Newton. Cam threw for 400 yards in like 3 of his lst four NFL games. After their bye, he was throwing for about 180 yards. You have to be able to stand there and deliver the rock around the yard with accuracy and precision. That’s why the league hasn’t caught up to Brady, Bree or Rogers yet.

  73. Seymour Bush Says:

    Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 4:45 pm

    Too bad VY stopped playing football after beating USC
    =====================================

    hehehehehehe. Good one.

  74. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
    Too bad VY stopped playing football after beating USC
    —-
    I’m sure Mistic still thinks he is a Hall of Famer.

  75. Just Win Baby Says:

    Just Win Baby Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
    ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
    Just Win Baby Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
    Parrish couldn’t make the team in SD and they are desperate for receivers. I dont see him as anything more than a temp fill-in until Ford and/or Moore are healthy.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    This morning you contradicted me and said that you liked the pickup.

    Reality tells us that Parrish played only two games last year ecause of his ankle and hasn’t played that many games over the last 3-4 years.
    It also tells us that the dischargers got him through free angency from Buffalo who couldn’t wait to lose him and after a look the dischargers dumped him too.

    He can’t cost much though so it doesn’t hurt to look.

    =====================

    Once again, someone who can’t tell the difference between the words “win” and “fire”. I will fight my own battles, but dont make me fight someone else’s. Ha Ha

  76. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 4:41 pm

    i think pryor will be better than vy, and kordell
    ================================

    I would hope so. Neither of those guys did very much to distinguish themselves, once they got in the league.
    ===================

    both of them have done something we havnt since gannon, win lots of games and go to the playoffs

  77. RaiderLen Says:

    Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
    Too bad VY stopped playing football after beating USC
    ——————————
    LOL

    Once VY had to open a playbook and study, he was exposed.

  78. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 4:45 pm

    The thing is the league caught up to Teblows pretty quickly. The same thing with Cam Newton. Cam threw for 400 yards in like 3 of his lst four NFL games. After their bye, he was throwing for about 180 yards. You have to be able to stand there and deliver the rock around the yard with accuracy and precision. That’s why the league hasn’t caught up to Brady, Bree or Rogers yet.
    =============================

    the hole in your theory is when you talk about cam newton. the leauge knew tebow was one dimensional, cam can stand in the pocket and be just as accurate as anybody in football.

    The last 5 games of the season cams yardage dropped off but the production did not. Over that stretch he threw 9 tds against 3 ints plus he rushed for 295 yards and 5 tds.

    i would say they still havnet caught up, they tried to slow him down but he found d ways to get it done anyway

  79. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
    Seymour Bush Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 4:41 pm

    i think pryor will be better than vy, and kordell
    ================================

    I would hope so. Neither of those guys did very much to distinguish themselves, once they got in the league.
    ===================

    both of them have done something we havnt since gannon, win lots of games and go to the playoffs
    —-
    Wait, what? Are you seriously lauding Slash and Vinc Young?

  80. KoolKell Says:

    Vince Young, 31 wins – 19 loses.

  81. bunk moorland Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
    i think pryor will be better than vy, and kordell==================================================

    kinda low standards, don’t you think?

  82. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    Hope Criner isn’t going to have an issue making EASY catches going to his right.

    For a guy that’s supposed to have great hands that’s TWO outright CLANKS on similar patterns.

  83. Raider O Says:

    TxRaider210 Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 3:57 pm
    O

    I think Vontae is better than Asante, but would want taller starting CB’s versus the elite WRs.imo
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Bartell, Spencer, and DVD are 6′+. Chekwa is 5′11-6′, so we can afford a smaller CB if he was good.
    He was traded, and I don’t think the Colts are going to releae him. lol

  84. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Vy won 31 games in tenn and went to the playoffs and has been a probowler as well.

    kordell won 48 starts, probowl player, went to the playoffs and the afc championship.

    who in silver and black has done this since gannon?

  85. bunk moorland Says:

    vy 46 tds thrown 51 ints, 12 rushing tds 21 fumbles.

    stewart, 77 tds thrown 84 ints 38 rushing 28 fumbles

  86. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Vince Young, 31 wins – 19 loses.

    ***************************

    The year after VY went 9-6 in Tennesse, a 37 year old Kerry Collins went 12-3.

    I think both VY and Kerry hindered an elite Titans team from winning playoff games (each lost every playoff game they played in Tennessee).

  87. Just Fire Baby Says:

    We need to stop throwing out Pro Bowls for QB’s.

    SVP went through it today on his show, basically if your willing to take a flight out to Hawaii you can be a Pro Bowler.

    Tebow was a Pro Bowler last year. Garrard the year before. Kerry Collins made one at 37 years old.

  88. Raider O Says:

    Who cares about VY? We have Houdini aka TP. He is bigger, stronger, faster, and smarter. Same arm strength.

  89. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
    Vy won 31 games in tenn and went to the playoffs and has been a probowler as well.

    kordell won 48 starts, probowl player, went to the playoffs and the afc championship.

    who in silver and black has done this since gannon?
    ——
    I thought you weren’t going to talk to old Klas anymore. Tricked you!

  90. 504 Raider Says:

    84.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
    Vy won 31 games in tenn and went to the playoffs and has been a probowler as well.

    kordell won 48 starts, probowl player, went to the playoffs and the afc championship.

    who in silver and black has done this since gannon?

    ————————————————————————————————————–

    Carson Palmer has come extremely close to this since 2002.

  91. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    If Vince Young is so great, why is he without a team. Defense and running game carried him in Tennessee.

  92. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    I have to give priestt the credit. i wasnt sold on pryor as a buckeye, i didnt see enough improvement as a passer from year to year. yet the hype was always there.

    preistt warned me that it may have been the college coaching staff that failed to develope the kid, it appears he was right. I think that pryor aso was guilty of caosting, but the way it ended was a real wake up call. He went from cant miss super qb in college to questionable character with flawed passing skills barley on the roster bubble.

    If nothing else he is focused hungry and has huge mental toughness

  93. KoolKell Says:

    Tim Tebow 0 TD’s 2 ints. 36% completion rate! 26.5 passer rating in preseason so far. Yet the so-called “Real Raider fans” suck on him, hate on Pryor.

    Why? Nevermind.

  94. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 5:11 pm
    Tim Tebow 0 TD’s 2 ints. 36% completion rate! 26.5 passer rating in preseason so far. Yet the so-called “Real Raider fans” suck on him, hate on Pryor.

    Why? Nevermind.
    ——
    No one is hating on Pryor. You suck.

  95. KoolKell Says:

    Tebows advantage in here is, he’s white bible thumper.

  96. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 5:11 pm

    Tim Tebow 0 TD’s 2 ints. 36% completion rate! 26.5 passer rating in preseason so far. Yet the so-called “Real Raider fans” suck on him, hate on Pryor.

    ……………….

    good stats, pryor also learning a new offense isnt nearly as bad.

    Some people talk but havent actually watched the guys in the comparison this pre season

  97. DutchRaider77 Says:

    Heck Cam Newton has a pro bowler back-up, Derek Anderson!

  98. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 5:15 pm
    Tebows advantage in here is, he’s white bible thumper.
    —-
    I don’t feel like many people here like Tebow. It is the minority, maybe 2 or 3 guys. About the same amount of people who do not think you are a total douche.

  99. KoolKell Says:

    I will say, I’ve never seen a QB knock the snot out of people like Tebow did the Raider D last year.

  100. realtruraider Says:

    93

    Really? I don’t know any Raider fans that are Tebow fans. You lost me there and most Raider fans are hoping TP can turn into the franchise QB.

  101. Raider O Says:

    The only real raider fan here who likes Tebow is Vegas, and he doesn’t hate TP.
    Get over it.

  102. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    504 Raider Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 5:10 pm

    84.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
    Vy won 31 games in tenn and went to the playoffs and has been a probowler as well.

    kordell won 48 starts, probowl player, went to the playoffs and the afc championship.

    who in silver and black has done this since gannon?

    ————————————————————————————————————–

    Carson Palmer has come extremely close to this since 2002.
    ================

    close but no cigar, besides he doesnt done anything close as a raider.

    my question was since gannon what qb in silver and black has matched the production and wins of kordell and vy?

    0

  103. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Kell is just baiting the race again.

  104. KoolKell Says:

    Raider O Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 5:19 pm

    The only real raider fan here who likes Tebow is Vegas, and he doesn’t hate TP.
    Get over it.
    —————
    Not true.

  105. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    my question was since gannon what qb in silver and black has matched the production and wins of kordell and vy?
    ——-
    I could have had a winning record as QB of those teams.

  106. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    realtruraider Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 5:18 pm

    93

    Really? I don’t know any Raider fans that are Tebow fans. You lost me there and most Raider fans are hoping TP can turn into the franchise QB.
    ================

    post # 93 doesnt mention tebow

  107. bunk moorland Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 5:11 pm
    Tim Tebow 0 TD’s 2 ints. 36% completion rate! 26.5 passer rating in preseason so far. Yet the so-called “Real Raider fans” suck on him, hate on Pryor.

    Why? Nevermind.==========================================

    yeah, the same people who play fantasy football and draft dwayne bowe.

  108. realtruraider Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
    realtruraider Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 5:18 pm

    93

    Really? I don’t know any Raider fans that are Tebow fans. You lost me there and most Raider fans are hoping TP can turn into the franchise QB.
    ================

    post # 93 doesnt mention tebow
    —————————————————–

    What? Sure does on my end, anyway it was a reply to Kell’s post he keeps reposting

  109. DJ Johnny Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 5:15 pm
    Tebows advantage in here is, he’s white bible thumper.

    I have not see a single post extolling Tebow in here. They say Vegas is one? Ok. I haven’t seen it but ok.

    As far bible thumper being something that adds to his appeal here? It seems 90% of the guys in here are atheists….i’m not one of them, i’m just sayin’.

  110. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Speaking of the Tebow:

    Skip Bayless ‏@RealSkipBayless
    Tim Tebow has run 83 preseason plays w/o once running the spread option, his offense. Yet the critics are again screaming he CAN’T PLAY QB!
    Expand
    Reply Retweet Favorite

  111. KoolKell Says:

    DJ Johnny Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
    KoolKell Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 5:15 pm
    Tebows advantage in here is, he’s white bible thumper.

    I have not see a single post extolling Tebow in here. They say Vegas is one? Ok. I haven’t seen it but ok.

    As far bible thumper being something that adds to his appeal here? It seems 90% of the guys in here are atheists….i’m not one of them, i’m just sayin’.
    ——————
    90% of the Trolls here may be atheists perhaps. I’d say most of the bloggers here are good right wing Christian conservatives, based on my experience.

  112. KoolKell Says:

    What I never understood is why so many right wing conservatives are attracted to the Raider brand…………

  113. Intrepid Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    Interesting how the “True Red Blooded Raider Fans” suck on Tebow and hate on Pryor./////////////////Like the way you try to maintain plausible deniability when you practice race baiting. Come out and say it and take a stand.

  114. Raider O Says:

    Vegas likes Tebow (He likes overachievers), and RR likes all bible thumpers.

  115. Thec Says:

    RAIDERMAN99 Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
    Hope Criner isn’t going to have an issue making EASY catches going to his right.

    For a guy that’s supposed to have great hands that’s TWO outright CLANKS on similar patterns.
    ++++++++++=

    I would attribute that to thinking too much.
    JCRINER is in a battle with DMO for best Wr hands on this current team.

  116. RaiderRockstar Says:

    RR likes all bible thumpers

    ***

    @ Raider O

    salvage the special teams, re-sign Sam Williams!!

  117. Thec Says:

    Intrepid Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
    Thec Says: Wizard of Auz is even slower than JCRINER at WR even with the weight loss….His ONLY hope is to learn the TE spot…//////////////////////Ausberry 40 yard dash time: 4.46 seconds junior criner 4.68

    +++++++++=
    I stand corrected…

  118. Intrepid Says:

    Oh, had I skipped ahead and seen that KK got the baseless race dialogue going that he needs every couple of days, I wouldn’t have bothered posting.

  119. KoolKell Says:

    Food Stamp President, Welfare Rhetoric etc, that’s race baiting. These people who espouse this on this blog are the race batters. To think their racism stops at the Raiders door is unrealistic.

  120. Thec Says:

    ALL you guys stay solid.

    1 NATION

  121. Intrepid Says:

    Thec, no biggie. I just remembered Ausberry being pretty quick for a big guy and knew Criners only real downside was being a step or two slower.

  122. Intrepid Says:

    RR, you like Curry? Although I’m not sure that’s bible thumping. Actually, his tweets aren’t even that coherent.Still like him though.

  123. Raider O Says:

    @ Raider O

    salvage the special teams, re-sign Sam Williams!!
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Was/is ge a bible thumper too? lol

  124. rob_raider Says:

    atheists ignore the obvious. they need “proof”. but it’s all over the place for them to plainly see. what kind of moron really believes that out of nothing came something suddenly and then out of lifeless ooze, cam life for no apparent reason and then…and then….and then? i mean it’s ridiculous. it’s so obvious there’s organization going on. it’s not random at all.

    it’s like with the kennedy assass!nation. if there was more than one shooter, it has to be a conspiracy. duh.

    the world goes through very definite cycles. there are literally millions of things all connected to each other in a seemingly chaotic and free way but apparently all connected.

    it’s ego that makes atheists refuse to see it. they want to be the smartest. they want to control their own destiny. and they don’t want to give thanks or be subservient to any God. but humans are not very bright. we really have no clue how everything works. every little bit of science we uncover only shows how God does it and proves how little we really understand.

  125. Twocents Says:

    If we define liberty as being free from government coercion, then we can see that there is not an iota of difference between liberals and conservatives. Both are fighting over who gets control of the state. Who gets to be the ruling party. The average man will be screwed either way, just like it has always been.

  126. KoolKell Says:

    Twocents

    Did you spot any US Drones in your yard over the weekend?

  127. Raider O Says:

    He*

    Btw RR, why did you stop posting from work?

  128. rob_raider Says:

    the theory of evolution is not fact in the slightest. just conjecture. it’s been proven faulty many times. and natural selection doesn’t explain away God at all. the existence of so many types of creatures, all apparently designed for their environment would seem to prove the existence of a designer. i mean sherlock holmes would see it. he wouldn’t say “i see no proof of anything” despite there being tons of it.

  129. rob_raider Says:

    by the way, alex7 is sullivan/mr if u don’t know. and klas is beeechum. u can easily see there “sense of humor”. but i’m ok with the switch. i suggested to beechum that he retire that moniker and come back as a relatively normal raider fan. and klas is goofy but somewhat humorous and actually talks raiders so i like him a whole lot more this way. his faux-swedish butchering of the english language is actually “quite the good”.

  130. Twocents Says:

    Who could stop the U.S. Government from doing anything it wants?

  131. KoolKell Says:

    Rob_raider Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 5:50 pm

    the theory of evolution is not fact in the slightest. just conjecture. it’s been proven faulty many times. and natural selection doesn’t explain away God at all. the existence of so many types of creatures, all apparently designed for their environment would seem to prove the existence of a designer. i mean sherlock holmes would see it. he wouldn’t say “i see no proof of anything” despite there being tons of it.
    ——————
    Evolution has been proven faulty, and Sherlock Holmes didn’t believe in it. Really? Any links? Lol.

  132. Just Fire Baby Says:

    The only real raider fan here who likes Tebow is Vegas, and he doesn’t hate TP.
    Get over it.

    *******************************

    I just think he is a better QB than people give him credit for, and I like to play a little devils advocate and screw with people.

    He DID kick our azz last year, and win the division and a playoff game.

    I am at about the stage where I would rip out 2 or 3 fingernails for a playoff win.

  133. Intrepid Says:

    Oh, Krap. KK gets a double.The race dialogue morphed into a religious one. Could of had a triple but no one bit on the right wing republican bait.

  134. RaiderDuck Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
    Speaking of the Tebow:

    Skip Bayless ‏@RealSkipBayless
    Tim Tebow has run 83 preseason plays w/o once running the spread option, his offense. Yet the critics are again screaming he CAN’T PLAY QB!
    Expand
    Reply Retweet Favorite

    =============================================

    Yes, Tebow’s been running the Jets O from center. And the Jets are scoring, what, SIX points per game right now?

  135. RaiderDuck Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
    Rob_raider Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 5:50 pm

    the theory of evolution is not fact in the slightest. just conjecture. it’s been proven faulty many times. and natural selection doesn’t explain away God at all. the existence of so many types of creatures, all apparently designed for their environment would seem to prove the existence of a designer. i mean sherlock holmes would see it. he wouldn’t say “i see no proof of anything” despite there being tons of it.
    ——————
    Evolution has been proven faulty, and Sherlock Holmes didn’t believe in it. Really? Any links? Lol.

    ============================================

    Don’t count on any decent links. And evolution is ANYTHING but “random,” as anyone who’s read and even somewhat understood Dawkins knows.

  136. rob_raider Says:

    kell–yes. the theory that darwin came up with was rather simple (he was a Christian by the way). he saw creatures adapted for their environment. in order for that to happen, he theorized that some random mutation must accidentally take place in one creature. mutations usually weaken a creature but here, he thinks it makes them stronger because their mutation would benefit them, and it apparently would be the only thing different with them. no weakened immune system. no abnormalities that would harm them, like with most mutations. so that particular creature would thrive and pass on his genes through multiple generations and eventually the entire population would have his genes. and this has to happen for every tiny little mutation and those mutations may be few and far between. hence, it MUST mean that it would take millions of years for it to happen this way.

    HOWEVER, it has been proven that many animals have changed very quickly, without any reason. stunning. animals changing sex, colors, body parts. blows the “theory” out of the window really.

    of course, if there’s a God, or a designer, then it all makes quite a bit more sense actually. but that God has not apparently shown Himself to the scientific community (only every day in everything they do).

    i mean who could look at the world and universe and see no design? and if there is a design, then there is a God. that’s logic. and just having seasons and biospheres, and all kinds of other “designed” things, proves it many times over.

  137. Raider O Says:

    I just think he is a better QB than people give him credit for
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Stop it…. The guy is a RB/ FB pretending to be a QB. At least TP can get the ball within a few yards from the WR, Tebow is at his best when the ball hits his WR’s feet.
    Stick with Grad.

  138. Intrepid Says:

    rob_raider. Klas can’t be Beechum. I’m not sure Beechum knows who the Raiders are. Lakers and Dodgers, yes. Raiders, no.

  139. rob_raider Says:

    raiderduck–i’ve read it. i’m a college educated guy, pal. it’s absolutely based on randomness. do u know what ur talking about? if it wasn’t it prove God, not supposedly prove He doesn’t exist.

  140. Just Fire Baby Says:

    At least TP can get the ball within a few yards from the WR,

    **************************

    You stop it!!!!

    He has completed less than a dozen, late in the game preseason passes, and he is better than a guy who threw for 300+ yards in a playoff game?

    I hope it BECOMES true, and it very well may. But it isn’t as of now. Not yet.

  141. KoolKell Says:

    Rob_raider Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 6:03 pm
    kell–yes. the theory that darwin came up with was rather simple (he was a Christian by the way). he saw creatures adapted for their environment. in order for that to happen, he theorized that some random mutation must accidentally take place in one creature. mutations usually weaken a creature but here, he thinks it makes them stronger because their mutation would benefit them, and it apparently would be the only thing different with them. no weakened immune system. no abnormalities that would harm them, like with most mutations. so that particular creature would thrive and pass on his genes through multiple generations and eventually the entire population would have his genes. and this has to happen for every tiny little mutation and those mutations may be few and far between. hence, it MUST mean that it would take millions of years for it to happen this way.

    HOWEVER, it has been proven that many animals have changed very quickly, without any reason. stunning. animals changing sex, colors, body parts. blows the “theory” out of the window really.

    of course, if there’s a God, or a designer, then it all makes quite a bit more sense actually. but that God has not apparently shown Himself to the scientific community (only every day in everything they do).

    i mean who could look at the world and universe and see no design? and if there is a design, then there is a God. that’s logic. and just having seasons and biospheres, and all kinds of other “designed” things, proves it many times over.
    ——————
    I asked you for a link, not your opinion.

  142. RaiderDuck Says:

    i mean who could look at the world and universe and see no design? and if there is a design, then there is a God. that’s logic. and just having seasons and biospheres, and all kinds of other “designed” things, proves it many times over.

    ===================================

    Next question: What designed God? And what designed whatever designed God?

  143. Fear_the_eyepatch Says:

    2 More days and me and the Northwest Raiders get to watch our beloved Raiders put the beatdown on the Seacocks. I can’t wait. RAAAIIIIDDDDDEEEEERRRRRSSSS!!!

  144. Raider O Says:

    He has completed less than a dozen, late in the game preseason passes, and he is better than a guy who threw for 300+ yards in a playoff game?
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$

    OMG!!! Did you watch that game?
    The guy couldn’t throw the entire game, and then he gets lucky (lol) in the 4th quarter and completes a few passes for 200+ yards.

  145. oakfoshow Says:

    Who cares about vince young,and sooner than later gaybow will get caught with some 8 year old boy in the bathroom of wallmart.

  146. rob_raider Says:

    re: tebow. i’m a huge raider fan and i kinda like tebow. i just respect his desire, fight, and attitude. i admire him for his wilingmess to say he’s a Christian. some cynics say he’s doing it for publicity. that doesn’t ring true at all. lots of athletes have said they were Christian without becoming celebrities. steve young is brigham young’s direct descendant for crying out loud. but he’s white, good looking, built well, a leader, a winner, and he seems to inspire his teammates immensely, even without them really knowing it. he’s simply a winner. and he has great character. as a qb, he obviously doesn’t do things in an orthodox way, but he does do things other qb’s can’t do. that’s really the key. he may not pass all that well, but he’s a great runner and he seems to be clutch. he’s one of those “intangibles” guys. who knows how it will work out but he’s an interesting story, and i don’t think he’s personally done anything to deserve anyone bashing him. he’s just a good kid with some faith. give him a break. i’d rather have him than some moron like jarassic.

  147. Twocents Says:

    KookKell, what good is a link going to do you?
    You have beliefs that you have held for years. You lack any ability to use critical thinking and no amount of reason will change your opinion.

  148. Jean Claude Francois Says:

    Who is this MR you fellows speaketh you of?

  149. KoolKell Says:

    I rest my case. Thanks Rob.

  150. Jean Claude Francois Says:

    Raiders will spanketh the Seahawks like a french pastry.

  151. Just Fire Baby Says:

    4 run first for the Rockies.

    Dodgers lose today, and that is a stellar 2-3 start since the trade, against 2 of the worst teams in baseball.

  152. rob_raider Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 6:06 pm
    Rob_raider Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 6:03 pm
    kell–yes. the theory that darwin came up with was rather simple (he was a Christian by the way). he saw creatures adapted for their environment. in order for that to happen, he theorized that some random mutation must accidentally take place in one creature. mutations usually weaken a creature but here, he thinks it makes them stronger because their mutation would benefit them, and it apparently would be the only thing different with them. no weakened immune system. no abnormalities that would harm them, like with most mutations. so that particular creature would thrive and pass on his genes through multiple generations and eventually the entire population would have his genes. and this has to happen for every tiny little mutation and those mutations may be few and far between. hence, it MUST mean that it would take millions of years for it to happen this way.

    HOWEVER, it has been proven that many animals have changed very quickly, without any reason. stunning. animals changing sex, colors, body parts. blows the “theory” out of the window really.

    of course, if there’s a God, or a designer, then it all makes quite a bit more sense actually. but that God has not apparently shown Himself to the scientific community (only every day in everything they do).

    i mean who could look at the world and universe and see no design? and if there is a design, then there is a God. that’s logic. and just having seasons and biospheres, and all kinds of other “designed” things, proves it many times over.
    ——————
    I asked you for a link, not your opinion.
    **************

    look it up dude. i spent enuff time on the post. i don’t wanna research it. i already did a long time ago.

  153. Just Fire Baby Says:

    and sooner than later gaybow will get caught with some 8 year old boy in the bathroom of wallmart.

    ***************************

    Your disgusting.

    Why do you wish that upon an 8 year old kid?

  154. da trinity Says:

    I also like Tp and tebow. And I’m a raider fan

  155. oakfoshow Says:

    I dont wish it,just sayin.Guy is creepy feller.

  156. oakfoshow Says:

    And dont put words in my mouth punk.I’ll stick ya.

  157. da trinity Says:

    I live the bible also

  158. Jean Claude Francois Says:

    In France we believeth in much American football. That is why I come here to enjoy much discussion of Raider ways.

    Viva Le France.

  159. da trinity Says:

    I love the bible is what I meant

  160. rob_raider Says:

    kell–how do u rest ur case? what case?

  161. Just Fire Baby Says:

    The guy couldn’t throw the entire game, and then he gets lucky (lol) in the 4th quarter and completes a few passes for 200+ yards.

    ************************

    Of his 316 passing yards, 193 of them came in the first half.

  162. oakfoshow Says:

    Boy,what happened to raider fans.They used to be so much cooler.

  163. rob_raider Says:

    http:// http://www.answers.com /topic/why-and-how-do-animals-change-color

    http:// wierdsciencecontroversies.blogspot.com /2008/01/sites-for-animals-that-change-gender.html

    there’s a start. of course scientists can explain why animals can change spontaneously according to the need of their species, even though they have pea brains. it’s all explainable by science u see. there’s not really a designer of any of this. it just happened because………um…….well……..because of science.

  164. Jean Claude Francois Says:

    I know some of you hope I am one time poster like Burton Guster or someone else but my intent is to stay long time and participate in mucho discussion of les American football.

    You see, I hail from the french coastal town of Beaurdeaux. Much wine is made there. Much cheese as well.

    I look forward to telling you more about it in coming days and weeks.

  165. Just Win Baby Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 6:06 pm
    Rob_raider Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 6:03 pm
    kell–yes. the theory that darwin came up with was rather simple (he was a Christian by the way). he saw creatures adapted for their environment. in order for that to happen, he theorized that some random mutation must accidentally take place in one creature. mutations usually weaken a creature but here, he thinks it makes them stronger because their mutation would benefit them, and it apparently would be the only thing different with them. no weakened immune system. no abnormalities that would harm them, like with most mutations. so that particular creature would thrive and pass on his genes through multiple generations and eventually the entire population would have his genes. and this has to happen for every tiny little mutation and those mutations may be few and far between. hence, it MUST mean that it would take millions of years for it to happen this way.

    HOWEVER, it has been proven that many animals have changed very quickly, without any reason. stunning. animals changing sex, colors, body parts. blows the “theory” out of the window really.

    of course, if there’s a God, or a designer, then it all makes quite a bit more sense actually. but that God has not apparently shown Himself to the scientific community (only every day in everything they do).

    i mean who could look at the world and universe and see no design? and if there is a design, then there is a God. that’s logic. and just having seasons and biospheres, and all kinds of other “designed” things, proves it many times over.
    ——————
    I asked you for a link, not your opinion.

    =========================

    Nobody asked for your opinion either

  166. Intrepid Says:

    rob_raider There you go. Jean Claude Francois Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 6:20 pm

    In France we believeth in much American football. That is why I come here to enjoy much discussion of Raider ways.

    Viva Le France.
    ////////////////////////////////////////////////////// That’s how easy it is to spot MR/Sullen1.

  167. oakfoshow Says:

    I wonder how many of you are really raider fans,and how many come on here to meet other guys..Yuck.

  168. DJ Johnny Says:

    oakfoshow Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 6:23 pm
    Boy,what happened to raider fans.They used to be so much cooler.

    To be fair, there aren’t as many actual Raider fans on here as before.

    There’s a rather sizable ant-Palmer contingent, as well as many who despise the Raider patriarch Al Davis..for how he’s destroyed “their favorite team”, and many will argue ad nauseum about how the Raiders suck, always have sucked and always will suck.

    There are a few Raider fans here too.

  169. Raider O Says:

    “Tebow, almost a laughing stock around the NFL when it comes passing, completed 10 of 21 passes for a whopping 316 yards. He averaged an unheard-of 15 yards per attempt and had a passer rating of 125.6. His passer ratings in the two previous games were 37.9 and 20.6.
    But he completed passes of 51, 30 and 58 yards in the second quarter to put up 20 points and erase a 6-0 Steelers lead.”
    $$$$$$$$$$$

    I was wrong, he got lucky in the 2nd quarter too.

  170. rob_raider Says:

    RaiderDuck Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 6:07 pm
    i mean who could look at the world and universe and see no design? and if there is a design, then there is a God. that’s logic. and just having seasons and biospheres, and all kinds of other “designed” things, proves it many times over.

    ===================================

    Next question: What designed God? And what designed whatever designed God?

    ***********

    the all time question of questions eh? well that;s kinda the point. see if u follow me here. our human brains just can’t understand the concept of time even though we know it exists, or at least we think it does. we just can’t get our little minds to understand a “beginning”. it doesn’t make sense. if the universe started, then what was before? and before that? it’s like infinity and infinite smallness. cut an atom in half. now cut that in half. and again and again and again. u just can’t get to the smallest thing. it boggles the mind.

    but that’s why i know the human brain doesn’t and can not understand the truth of the universe as it really is. there is simply no reason for there to be absolute nothingness (where did that nothingness come from?) and then for there to be a big bang. a big bang of what? there was nothing. and then there was something?

    that’s crucial. there was nothing. then there was something.

    something happened. some force made it happen. they call it the big bang. u know where that came from? genesis. it’s a variation on an ANCIENT story. scientists stole it to try to get us to believe what is essentially an unsolvable mystery.

  171. Intrepid Says:

    rob_raider. By the way, did you come up with Jarassic? One nickname I hadn’t heard. I think it’s funny. Fortunately, very little reason to use it or any other moving forward.

  172. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    they need to have shotgun spread package for dmc and pryor….

  173. DJ Johnny Says:

    Intrepid Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 6:28 pm
    rob_raider There you go. Jean Claude Francois Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 6:20 pm

    In France we believeth in much American football. That is why I come here to enjoy much discussion of Raider ways.

    Viva Le France.
    ////////////////////////////////////////////////////// That’s how easy it is to spot MR/Sullen1.

    I’ve never even heard of Sacramento. What is it?

  174. oakfoshow Says:

    Thanks.Now I can figure the rest out.

  175. DJ Johnny Says:

    You see I am from Norway. I like much Norwegian football.

    You americans are just foolish with the football.

    See…

    It’s too easy to portray some weird foreign guy.

  176. rob_raider Says:

    science is operating under rules that our minds can’t fathom. they prove nothing. proof of design is all around us. see the obvious friend.

  177. rob_raider Says:

    Intrepid Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 6:31 pm
    rob_raider. By the way, did you come up with Jarassic? One nickname I hadn’t heard. I think it’s funny. Fortunately, very little reason to use it or any other moving forward.
    ***********

    i did. i’m not sure anyone else has used it. i think it describes his…..big slowness…and eventual extinction, fairly well.

    but dinosaurs never existed. i’d like to think he never did either.

  178. oakfoshow Says:

    I banged a norwegian chick once.Couldnt speak a lick of english.That was fun.

  179. RaiderRockstar Says:

    RR, you like Curry?

    ***

    Yes – I like Aaron Curry & Sam Williams (ST beast)

    Jarvis Moss & Richard Seymour ??

    Not so much!

  180. KoolKell Says:

    Oakfoshow Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 6:29 pm

    I wonder how many of you are really raider fans,and how many come on here to meet other guys..Yuck.
    ———————-
    Agreed, there seems to be a lot of calls for hookups.

  181. oakfoshow Says:

    Bring back Jake Grove! Just kidding.

  182. Just Fire Baby Says:

    What’s wrong with Raider Nation members trying to meet up?

    I think it is weirder to spend YEARS on here, and have no interest in talking to people face-to-face.

  183. Intrepid Says:

    DJJohnnyand Oakforshow. Go back to last years MUP list and another one I forget the details of compiled by RR. Even with crossposters, trolls, and split personalities(I’m one-Purvisman-not hiding anything) there are a lot of posters here. Just not so much this time of year, but increasing.

  184. Raider O Says:

    I’m from Saudi and you infidels with football chatting is going to end soon. We will win the jihad with you.
    Allah is great you MFer b!otches.

  185. Intrepid Says:

    Not going there with you, rob_raider. But props on Jarassic.

  186. oakfoshow Says:

    I have interest in seeing a couple smart asses in here face to face.Believe me.Come in here and people want to make enemys right away.Like I already said,raider fans used to be much cooler.

  187. Intrepid Says:

    RaiderRockstar. See #183? How many were there and what was that other list?

  188. Intrepid Says:

    oakfoshow, those fortunate enough to attend games willingly share their tailgate locations and see each other often during the season.

  189. KoolKell Says:

    Like I said, I never understood how so many Right-wing, Republican, Social Conservative, Bible thumpers came to be attracted to the Raider brand.

  190. Twocents Says:

    I’m not surprised KoolKell, you don’t understand much of anything.

  191. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Like I said, I never understood how so many Right-wing, Republican, Social Conservative, Bible thumpers came to be attracted to the Raider brand.

    **************************

    Because 95% of Raider Nation members could give a crap about any of that.

    Only the limousine liberal, snarky, elitists like you can’t stand mixing your sweater vests and slip-on leather loafers with some folks in boots and flannel.

  192. Intrepid Says:

    oakfoshow, those fortunate enough to attend games willingly share their tailgate locations and see each other often during the season.////////Smart-asses always invited,never show, like KK and MR. although Method and KK supposedly attended the same fan appreciation day in Napa. they skillfully avoided each other.

  193. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Arthur Davis is killing O’bummer right now.

  194. DJ Johnny Says:

    I remember one time at a bar in Illinois. I was watching Raiders/ Denver game. The raiders looked like they won the game and I was going nuts-”Yes…hahahahaha Yes…bite me Denver…hahahahha”. Well there was a guy there decked out in Raider jersey and hat and i thought he would share in my happiness. He gave me weak high 5 then looked back down at some sheet of paper like he didn’t care what just happened…i guess it was some football “pool” or something.

    Obviously he was just thinking it was cool to dress up like a Raider fan.

    No true Raider fan acts all blase’ about beating Denver.

  195. Raider O Says:

    Chico,

    KK is a preppie?

  196. KoolKell Says:

    Watching the RNC Convention. Haven’t seen a person of color in the audience yet.

  197. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Watching the RNC Convention. Haven’t seen a person of color in the audience yet.

    *************************

    There was just one speaking.

  198. Intrepid Says:

    There are no black republicans.

  199. imaquaman Says:

    did everyone like what they saw from pryor ?being a life long raider fan one thing i havent seen is for us to develop a QB .so how long do we wait before we throw pryor in there.1 loss 2 or 3 loss’or make him wait till next year,what do you guys think?this blog has some of the smartest people in it ,when it stays within football,but for news on the raiders go to the BLEACHER REPORT more info for sure

  200. Intrepid Says:

    DJ I’d go nuts even if, for whatever reason, my money just disappeared.

  201. Just Fire Baby Says:

    .so how long do we wait before we throw pryor in there.1 loss 2 or 3 loss’or make him wait till next year,what do you guys think?

    ******************************

    I would be suprised if he started a game this season, unless we were hopelessly out of the playoff race.

    But if Palmer doesn’t take us to the playoffs this year, I think the QB job in 2013 will be an open competition.

  202. Intrepid Says:

    imaquaman; Silver and Black Pride, yes. Raider Nation Times, yes. Bleccher Report, he11 no. In fact, to save you from temptation, bookmark this link. http://www.google.com/search?q=oakland+raiders+-Bleacher&hl=en&gl=us&authuser=0&biw=1024&bih=626&tbm=nws&source=lnt&tbs=qdr:d&sa=X&ei=LyEKULrnJ4WnrQGt06XJCg&ved=0CCEQpwUoAg It gives you a google search for Raider news(last 24 hours, but you can adjust that) without ANY Bleccher report links. You’re welcome.

  203. Raider Riff Says:

    I guess KK missed the Tebow bashing fest that went on two stories ago. I didnt see one person sticking up for the clown. Shebow has had 3 years to develop and he hasnt improved at all. Houdini on the other hand has only had 3 games and has shown massive improvements.

    But I see the lame topic of the day here is religion so I will bow out. I definitely got better things to do with my time than argue with a bunch of sheep who still think the world is flat.

    The Raiders are about thinking for ones self. Going against the grain. Counter culture. Nothing about being a bible thumper says you know how to think for yourself.

    Now to some actual Raider talk…

    There was some SERIOUS Raider hating going on on NFL Network tonite. Jamie Dukes is permanently on my chitlist. Im now 100% convinced he doesnt even watch the games he talks about. He just breezes over a few stat lines and then makes colossal judgements. F-him.

    Ok brothas, Im out. Gotta get some sleep.

    Oh, and BTW, Shebow is a member of hate groups. Shebow doesnt like beaver. And Shebow is the worst pure passer in the history of the NFL.

  204. Oakland Raiders Links That You’ll Want To See August 28, 2012 | Raiders Central | Oakland Raiders Blog Says:

    [...] Moore, Knapp also concerned about timing Raiders quartertback Carson Palmer first sounded the alarm when he said he is concerned about the inability to work much with injured wide receivers Jacoby Ford and Denarius Moore. Well, as it turns out, he isn’t the only one worried about the … [...]

  205. Raider Riff Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 7:13 pm
    .so how long do we wait before we throw pryor in there.1 loss 2 or 3 loss’or make him wait till next year,what do you guys think?

    ******************************

    I would be suprised if he started a game this season, unless we were hopelessly out of the playoff race.

    But if Palmer doesn’t take us to the playoffs this year, I think the QB job in 2013 will be an open competition.

    ———–

    Palmer wasnt our problem last year. There is no reason to think he will be the issue this year.

    2013 I say we make Houdini the #2. Keep Leinart as the emergency.

    2014 he can start pushing Palmer for the starting job. 2015 or 16 is more realistic though.

  206. Intrepid Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 7:13 pm

    .so how long do we wait before we throw pryor in there.1 loss 2 or 3 loss’or make him wait till next year,what do you guys think?

    ******************************

    I would be suprised if he started a game this season, unless we were hopelessly out of the playoff race.

    But if Palmer doesn’t take us to the playoffs this year, I think the QB job in 2013 will be an open competition.
    /////////////////////////////// Remember, if Palmer gets hurt, Lienart has three season ending injuries in his last eight starts, so you’d probably see TP anyway.

  207. Just Fire Baby Says:

    2015 or 16 is more realistic though.

    ************************

    Pryor’s contract is up at the end of 2014.

    What makes you think he would resign here, if he was NEVER given the chance to start?

  208. Chris in NY Says:

    DVD is going to be very good. just watch. Great speed and change of direction fluidity. Good length. Those are some of the fundamental building blocks of being a great CB and DVD is aces in those areas. Instincts and ball skills are lacking, but give him time. I think he’s vastly underrated by fans on this board and expectations are way too high for a second year, third-round pick playing possibly one of the most challenging positions in the game.

  209. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Even if Pryor is not ready, he will start a handful of games before his contract is up.

    Just the way the NFL works.

  210. Just Win Baby Says:

    Religion, politics, race, and football makes for a pretty lousy tasting goulash.

  211. Raider O Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 7:23 pm
    2015 or 16 is more realistic though.

    ************************

    Pryor’s contract is up at the end of 2014.

    What makes you think he would resign here, if he was NEVER given the chance to start?
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    We can always tender/ tag the guy if we need to.

  212. Just Fire Baby Says:

    We can always tender/ tag the guy if we need to.

    ************************

    Tender yes, or maybe. 3rd round tenders run about 2-3 million I think. Of course, he doesn’t have to sign it.

    Franchise tag?? LMAO. That would probably run around 16-17 million for a QB right now.

  213. KoolKell Says:

    Fat Fuk is speaking noe, tune in

  214. KoolKell Says:

    Christie’s father put himself through college on the G.I. bill. Whaaaaaat Lol.

  215. Raider O Says:

    Franchise tag?? LMAO. That would probably run around 16-17 million for a QB right now.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Who knows what will happen between now and and 2015? Houdini may end up being a PB QB and our best option is to tag him.
    I’m just reminding you people of our options.

  216. Intrepid Says:

    Just Win Baby Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 7:26 pm

    Religion, politics, race, and football makes for a pretty lousy tasting goulash.///////////////////Religion, politics, and race got a foothold this time thanks to, once again, one uninsightful race baitng post by KK.

  217. Just Fire Baby Says:

    The option is to play him before his contract is up, so we aren’t just blindly negotiating.

  218. Raiders for life Says:

    I don’t know. I think it’s a bit early to be thinking about putting a tag on Pryor. Heck the dude could get cut at the end of the season.
    Hope not though. I hope Pryor kicks some a$$.

  219. Intrepid Says:

    Think positive, TP may get a lot of mop up duty this year.

  220. Raider O Says:

    Too early for this conversation. He is under contract this season and 2 more seasons after that. We have enough time to evaluate him, and who knows what will happen with Palmer in a few years.

  221. r8eray Says:

    Ain’t that a shame…losing to one of the worse teams in the Central Division/MLB with a 40-88 record!!!!

    Lol…

  222. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Jean Claude Francois Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 6:16 pm
    Raiders will spanketh the Seahawks like a french pastry.
    ———
    Jean Claude, welcome to land of blogs. Raiders will beat Seahawks like a Swedish meatball.

  223. Just Fire Baby Says:

    A little too quick on the draw there partner.

    Got your rally-cap on???

  224. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Too early for this conversation.

    *************************

    Agreed, plenty of time to let things play out.

    Just gotta poke holes in the notion we can just go willy-nilly about it and see if he is ready in 2015.

    The suspension last year kind of robbed him and us of one of his 4 years of his rookie contract.

  225. Twinkle Says:

    Religion,politics,race and what’s in our 3rd string QB’s future? Business as usual I see.1Nation #1…………..
    Hullo all,
    Chris in NY Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 7:25 pm

    DVD is going to be very good. just watch. Great speed and change of direction fluidity. Good length. Those are some of the fundamental building blocks of being a great CB and DVD is aces in those areas. Instincts and ball skills are lacking, but give him time. I think he’s vastly underrated by fans on this board and expectations are way too high for a second year, third-round pick playing possibly one of the most challenging positions in the game.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    I hope you are right…..4.27 in the 40 can’t hurt either.

  226. r8eray Says:

    I know…Lol!!!

    I just jinxed myself…oh well! Give us a few games to get in sync, then lights out!

    Vegas, I got nothin but love for you brother…it’s just them f@ggot @$$ Giants, I can’t stand them!!

  227. Intrepid Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says: Jean Claude, welcome to land of blogs. Raiders will beat Seahawks like a Swedish meatball.//////////////////Klas, thats the guy some accuse you of being, MR/ the Sullen1.

  228. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Give us a few games to get in sync, then lights out!

    ****************************

    You guys will be one of the top 3 or 4 favorites to win it all next year.

    But this year ain’t happening, baseball is not won by just throwing a bunch of dudes together last minute. You need to go through the season together.

  229. Twinkle Says:

    JFB….wonder if there is some way the Team can gain compensation from the commish’s office for that lost season?Or did we know about the the suspension before we drafted him?

  230. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I guess we could have bucked the trend and gave him an extra year over the normal rookie contract.

    That’s the issue with a sup pick QB. Not a big deal of he is a DE, you can put him on the field, at least for a few situations.

  231. Jean Claude Francois Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 7:58 pm
    Jean Claude Francois Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 6:16 pm
    Raiders will spanketh the Seahawks like a french pastry.
    ———
    Jean Claude, welcome to land of blogs. Raiders will beat Seahawks like a Swedish meatball.

    Merci my amigo. I have much friends in Sweden. I enjoy Swedish meatball very much.

  232. Twinkle Says:

    OK I get it….it was on us to get comp for ourselves.
    How can you know if a prospect…?
    I guess the commish exercising his power of god over a college matter has it’s base in the fact that the colleges are the league farm clubs but it seems weird.
    Private enterprise going judicial on a public school
    matter.

  233. Jean Claude Francois Says:

    I enjoy Swedish meatball very much.

    That not sound right…

  234. RaiderRob Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 7:36 pm

    Fat Fuk is speaking noe, tune in
    —————
    Of course you are.

  235. JB Says:

    Adam Caplan ‏@caplannfl

    Source confirms the #Raiders claimed CB Coye Francies off waivers from the #Seahawks.
    Retweeted by Steve Corkran

    Reggie s on the move once again.

  236. Jean Claude Francois Says:

    Adam Caplan ‏@caplannfl

    Source confirms the #Raiders claimed CB Coye Francies off waivers from the #Seahawks.
    Retweeted by Steve Corkran
    ############################################
    Francies? He sounds French to me.

    Way to go Monsieur Reggie.

  237. Raider O Says:

    I guess we could have bucked the trend and gave him an extra year over the normal rookie contract.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
    Chico,

    You are assuming that Palmer will continue to be the starter the next 3 seasons, and you are also assuming that TP will not get a chance to showcase his talents in that period.
    The coaching staff has 3 more seasons to evaluate the kid.

  238. Burton Guster Says:

    Klas reminds me of Albert B Paine. Wry sense of humor but firm on his live for the Raiders. That’s right. Except ABP had a few more street smarts. That’s right.

  239. Raider O Says:

    3 seasons, not 3 more seasons.

  240. JB Says:

    Who’s on the bubble(s)?

    • OL – Haslam
    • RB – Goodson/Miler
    • WR – McGee/Carswell
    • TE – Humphrey
    • DL – Davis
    • LB – Burnett
    • CB – Black
    • S – Underwood
    • ST – King/Carmona

  241. Twinkle Says:

    Here’s an interesting site in regards to the fastest 40
    times.I’d read that Bo had run a 4.18 but these folks have upgraded him to a 4.12.

    http://www.gridironstuds.com/blog/wp-content/themes/inove/js/util.js

  242. Twinkle Says:

    Never mind …got the wrong link….I’ll post if anyone
    is interested

  243. Raiders for life Says:

    BEREA, Ohio — After a spirited practice, the Cleveland Browns were still in a playful mood so they decided to pull a prank on one of their rookies.

    Francies

    Coye Francies didn’t care for the joke.

    The first-year cornerback, incensed over being soaked with water by some of his teammates, threw a bucket of ice and at least one errant punch during a skirmish in the Browns’ locker room on Friday.

    As the Browns returned from practice, a dripping-wet Francies stormed into the locker room lugging a Gatorade bucket full of ice. Before he could be stopped, Francies tossed the ice on cornerback Brandon McDonald, hitting him with cubes that covered the floor.

    At that point, it was not clear if Francies was playing along and messing with McDonald.

    Then, his mood, and the vibe in the room, turned more serious.

    Francies flung some more ice in the direction of safety Mike Adams before heading toward safety Abram Elam’s corner cubicle. With the bucket on the floor, Francies then swung his arms at Elam, who deflected the blows. Pro Bowl nose tackle Shaun Rogers then stepped in and grabbed Francies by the back of the shirt and escorted him out a side door as other players came to help.

  244. Yellow99LasagnaBlue4432 Says:

    All things Raider are Silver and Black. Print that.

  245. Raiders for life Says:

    DeMarcus Van Dyke ‏@D_VanDyke8
    Dear God, Thank You

    #######################

    1 hour ago. Weird

  246. JB Says:

    Raiders for life Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 8:43 pm

    DeMarcus Van Dyke ‏@D_VanDyke8
    Dear God, Thank You

    #######################

    1 hour ago. Weird
    ***********************

    Maybe he just dodged a bubble bullet.

  247. Raiders for life Says:

    I think DVD has better stats then this Coye kid. Not sure whats up with that.

  248. JB Says:

    So far DVD has just been a practice warrior who fizzles during an actual game. He’s fast but also slight of stature. He’s also NOT a great tackler. Kind of sounds like one of Al’s past “fast” CB draftees that can race all over the place but doesn’t do much when he gets there.

  249. Raiders for life Says:

    That brings up another question……The Raiders got down to 75 players but have brought in another 2? How does that work unless they cut down to 73 or did two others get cut? I’m confused now.

  250. JB Says:

    Add 1 cut 1. Basic math at this point.

  251. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    rob_raider Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 6:03 pm
    i mean who could look at the world and universe and see no design?
    ==================================================
    “The human mind is not capable of grasping the Universe. We are like little children entering a huge library. The walls are covered to the ceilings with books in many different tongues. The child knows that someone must have written these books. It does not know who or how. It does not understand the languages in which they are written. But the child notes a definite plan in the arrangement of the books – a mysterious order which it does not comprehend, but only dimly suspects.”

    Albert Einstein.

  252. DJ Johnny Says:

    Twinkle Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 8:32 pm
    Never mind …got the wrong link….I’ll post if anyone
    is interested

    I am.

    Bo ranks high on my list of the best running back specimens in football history for size, speed, and power.

    Also in the team photo:

    -Marcus Dupree 6-3 235…world class speed. You tube him you’ll see what i mean

    -Herschel Walker 6-2 225.

    There’s others of course but those always stood out to me…along with Bo.

  253. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    DeMarcus Van Dyke ‏@D_VanDyke8
    Dear God, Thank You
    ================================
    Hey, at least we know DVD isn’t an atheist.

    If there’s no atheists in foxholes, are there any in a huddle ?

    Pray to put on some weight, DVD.

  254. Raiders for life Says:

    250.JB Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
    Add 1 cut 1. Basic math at this point.

    #############################3

    Who got cut for Parrish and Coye? I thought the Raiders were at the mandatory 75. That would mean two other players were released.

  255. Gandalf Greyhem Says:

    Frodo is not gay. A man of his significance does not have time for women. Or men for that matter. His business is with men, but not of the fleshy kind. Frodo is a humble man. Wise beyond his years. He may even be celibate. But he is now living in the Distance Shores, and we will never know.

  256. RaiderDuck Says:

    Raiders For Life Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
    250.JB Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
    Add 1 cut 1. Basic math at this point.

    #############################3

    Who got cut for Parrish and Coye? I thought the Raiders were at the mandatory 75. That would mean two other players were released.

    ===========================================

    Hurd was Waived/Injured to make room for Parrish.

    Somebody said Conroy Black got the axe for Francies.

  257. Raiders for life Says:

    OK, Zack Hurd was waived to make room for Parrish, who got cut for Coye?

  258. DJ Johnny Says:

    Coye Francies. CB.

    6th rd. draft choice. Only APPEARED in a few games two yrs. ago after falling out of the league last season.

    Waived by Seahawks.

    Nothing else to say about him except for that fight in the lockerroom at Cleveland.

  259. da trinity Says:

    Madden13!!!!!!!!
    Raidersallday31 on ps3.
    Want sum, come get sum.

  260. Raiders for life Says:

    Damn Duck, your fast.
    Thanks.

  261. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Raiders waive/injured OT Z. Hurd for the PR/WR Parrish; don’t know about the Coye (cb) signing just learned about that signing from all of you here.

  262. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Message to DVD & Chekwa, “step your perfoMessage to DVD & Chekwa, “step up your performance.”

  263. MiamiRaider78 Says:

    Coye Francies, CB, San Jose State

    Francies is one of those rare physical specimens who carries a high boom-bust factor into the 2009 NFL Draft. His best asset is speed — with a 4.35 40 time (2009 time), Francies showed he can run with most NFL receiver. He showed great closing speed, good tracking technique and he plays the ball well while in the air. Francies reacts quickly on plays in front of him and also showed good adjustments when backpedaling. A workout warrior, he will show up to support the run and does not shy away from contact. There were character concerns early on in his career, but he had a model stint at San Jose State. Francies however doe lack top tier experience (he only has one year experience as a full time starter with San Jose State). He is also thin as a rail and needs to add bulk and upper body strength. Francies is still very raw and it will take time to adjust to the speed of the pro game. A better press defender than a zone cover player at this time, Francies does not show shutdown ability. Francies has good, but raw talent and is far from being a finished product. His ability to press cover and his tracking technique are better suited for a safety position.The lack of experience is a major concern, but because of a perceived lack of top cornerback prospects in this class, Francies will probably go higher than his talent and level of play may warrant. Nevertheless, Francies projects as a solid corner with versatility

  264. ♪♫♪♫♪♫♪♫♪♫♪♫ Says:

    Zip-a-dee-doo-dah, zip-a-dee-ay
    My, oh my what a wonderful day!
    Plenty of sunshine heading my way
    Zip-a-dee-doo-dah, zip-a-dee-ay

    Mister Bluebird on my shoulder
    It’s the truth, it’s actch’ll
    Ev’rything is satisfactch’ll
    Zip-a-dee-doo-dah, zip-a-dee-ay
    Wonderful feeling, wonderful day!

  265. DJ Johnny Says:

    263,

    Thx Miami.

  266. DJ Johnny Says:

    264,

    Nice post.

  267. MiamiRaider78 Says:

    My pleasure, Dj! First thing I did was look up multiple scouting reports. Not sure I like the part that says he’s as thin as a rail…Like DVD? Ehhh

    This pending suspension by the league for Mcclain’s actions in Alabama are worrisome. It’s definitely going to be imposed but to what extent and when? Wish it could happen already, kind of. Wonder what’s plan B!

  268. Raidernationdave Says:

    LB Slade Norris cut by Lions.

  269. alex7 Says:

    Pryor will at NO point this season beat out Leinart for the #2 spot. Again, Pryor played street ball games 1 and 2, underthrew a deep pass game 3, and completed a beautiful throw later that game. He’ll get into some games for his running ability (bootleg plays), but that’s it.

    2 terrible pre-season games, terrible two months of practice, one game with one or two solid throws.

    A college history or terrible accuracy.

    #3 QB. Not even a backup.

  270. alex7 Says:

    Taiwan Jones will be the most sought after fantasy football player if DMAC ever goes down this year.

    Hmm.

  271. MiamiRaider78 Says:

    One can only hope both DMAC and Jones stay healthy through out the year. Most explosive back field in the NFL if such is the case. Adding a bruiser back there can help as well.

    Talk about speed on the field, damn!

  272. Intrepid Says:

    alex7 Says: Pryor will at NO point this season beat out Leinart for the #2 spot./////////////Doesn’t have to. Leinart has had 3 season ending injuries in his last 8 starts so if Palmer goes down, Pryor won’t have to wait very long.

  273. rob_raider Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 6:47 pm
    Like I said, I never understood how so many Right-wing, Republican, Social Conservative, Bible thumpers came to be attracted to the Raider brand.

    *************

    well, if ur referring to me, u couldn’t be more wrong. yes, i’m a Christian, but surprise, i’m not right wing nor republican, nor conservative. and i’m not really a Bible thumper. i don’t believe u get the message across that way. i’m not a zealot and i don’t like people who use Christianity as an excuse to hate or exclude. Christ’s example is what i’m all about. He was a great man and loved everyone. preached peace and understanding. hung out with prostitutes and thieves. he was a fantastic example of how to live ur life. if everyone tried to live like He did, the wold would be a much more wonderful place.

  274. Kirk Says:

    alex7 Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 10:19 pm
    Pryor will at NO point this season beat out Leinart for the #2 spot.

    ………………………………………

    Wanna bet?

  275. rob_raider Says:

    RAIDERMAN99 Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
    rob_raider Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 6:03 pm
    i mean who could look at the world and universe and see no design?
    ==================================================
    “The human mind is not capable of grasping the Universe. We are like little children entering a huge library. The walls are covered to the ceilings with books in many different tongues. The child knows that someone must have written these books. It does not know who or how. It does not understand the languages in which they are written. But the child notes a definite plan in the arrangement of the books – a mysterious order which it does not comprehend, but only dimly suspects.”

    Albert Einstein.

    **********

    what a great quote. the guy got it. picture a scientist from another world walking into the library. he would refuse to believe the books were written or created. he would swear they “evolved” from other materials. refusing to see what a child can see.

    but not all scientists are atheists, including darwin, by the way. many see science as trying to see how God works, and see their studies as awe-inspiring.

  276. JLofty Says:

    2nd that Rob…

  277. KoolKell Says:

    Agreed Rob.

  278. Twinkle Says:

    DJ here you go.They go through all the ways to time folks
    and seem to making their own fastest 40 list.

    http://www.gridironstuds.com/blog/xmlrpc.php

  279. JLofty Says:

    How come TPryor isn’t in on d@mn near Every play? Kid is scary fast+ big. Learning TE won’t hurt his QB skills any will it?

  280. Twinkle Says:

    No thats blocked also

  281. Twinkle Says:

    The URL you can cut and paste.

    http://www.gridironstuds.com/blog/the-fastest-40-yard-dash-ever/

  282. Twinkle Says:

    Figures….. that links good

  283. Twinkle Says:

    JLofty Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 10:47 pm

    How come TPryor isn’t in on d@mn near Every play? Kid is scary fast+ big. Learning TE won’t hurt his QB skills any will it?
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Only as far as his head is concerned.Confidence is paramount I imagine.

  284. rob_raider Says:

    Alex7 Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 10:19 pm
    Pryor will at NO point this season beat out Leinart for the #2 spot. Again, Pryor played street ball games 1 and 2, underthrew a deep pass game 3, and completed a beautiful throw later that game. He’ll get into some games for his running ability (bootleg plays), but that’s it.

    2 terrible pre-season games, terrible two months of practice, one game with one or two solid throws.

    A college history or terrible accuracy.

    #3 QB. Not even a backup.

    *******************

    see, there u go. he’s not ready and he will likely stay #3 this year, especially since leinart not only has starting experience, but has looked pretty solid so far with the raiders. but saturday’s game was huge. if we had cut him before that game, he probably would have gotten a few sniffs, and likely some gm’s asking about a position switch. but not now buddy. if we cut him today, nearly every team would line up to get him. to develop him, sur. but he turned heads, brother. guaranteed that nfl people all over the league perked up and said “whoa!”. a qb simply can not do what he did and not get people talking. everyone is waiting to see more. but while most nfl people had serious doubts and probably even dismissed him before, they are ALL thinking “maybe” now. the upside just got got exponentially higher. because if he can put together his mechanics, he could incredible. he has a great arm. great escapability. great size and strength. and he’s completed a lot of passes. maybe not as many as you would like, but here’s one for ya: if he completes 50% of his passes and you would like him to complete 60%, does his rare running ability make up for it? think about how many plays he will not need to complete a pass on. remember steve young taking off for all those first downs? john elway? how about michael vick two years ago? michale vick never had a higher completion rate than 56% with atlanta and as low as 44%. then 62% with philly 2 years ago and 60% last year. guys develop. pryor has a lot of people talking. and his work ethic and character and drive suggest he may get there. he’s very coachable according to everyone. not a prima dona. puts in lots of work. wants to be great. watch out world.

  285. MiamiRaider78 Says:

    I’d love, just once, to see Pryor lined up as a WR and give him the option of either running or throwing it on a reverse. =)

  286. Twinkle Says:

    DJ while you are there,check out the catch for the pick by the DB in the video on the right.

  287. Twinkle Says:

    Half the list are\were Raiders.

  288. Intrepid Says:

    Now you know, Twinkle. Just copy and paste a URL here and it comes out a link. Took me a while to figure that one out.

  289. rob_raider Says:

    one last thing on the evolution tip. similar to a comment i already made but i think it’s funny. imagine a scientist coming to this world from another. all life is extinct, post-armageddon. he sees a car sitting in a road, abandoned. would he immediately recognize it as being something “designed”. why can’t people look around our world and see unbelievable complexity that makes a car design look like a child’s project and recognize “something” made this? isn’t it obvious? and if it was made, then there has to be a Creator. maybe we know this Creator and maybe we don’t but isn’t pretty basic?

  290. Twinkle Says:

    Intepid yep…Dylan put just about as good as any

    “don’t know what you have to pay
    to get out of going through all these things twice.”

    Got this fancy app to do the link thing and Cut and Paste
    works better.

  291. Twinkle Says:

    *it

  292. Intrepid Says:

    Twinkle,interesting link. Thanks.

  293. rob_raider Says:

    i’m thinking of going to the monday night game. looking at getting tix. anyone here tailgating? i’m going with my wife. most people we know are 49ers fans (sunnyvale). i named my kid after marcus allen, so……

  294. Twinkle Says:

    The whole world laughed at Bosworth’s A$$ when he got plowed by Bo on that Monday night game.I was amazed that he got back downfield to try and make the tackle.He needed another second to get himself set….never got it
    Pow!!!

  295. rob_raider Says:

    i have to say i think cooley is a gift for the raiders. a productive, healthy TE, only 30 just became available for nothing. myers is only ok and likely will never be better. gordon has a history of paddle-hands. good blocker though. ausberry is the future but it’s not easy going from WR to TE. he’s really not quite ready. cooley could get 60/650/5. none of our three can come close to that.

  296. Intrepid Says:

    Rob_raider, half the morning crew-slight exaggeration- go to the games and are more than glad to tell you where they’re at and what they’ll happily share with you. So if you’re with your wife,you’ve been warned. Hah.

  297. Mr Green Says:

    Should the Raidahs be concerned about CP3? And the fans, shoul we be concerned about CP3?

    Hell No!

    What we need to be concerned about is Knapp tryin to insert a WCO with a QB who is a big armed pocket passer.

    When Lienart has to bring along CP3 to understand the O playbook, we need to be concerned. Cuz you know that is Knapps doin. My big prayer is all this WCO is just a smokescreen and Knapp comes to his senses and lets Palmer call his own game.

    Liken CP3 to Nolan Ryan. Big strong righty who throws hard, wild but effective. Nobody told Ryan how to pich. And so should be the case with Palmer. And get this: Plunkett called is own games, yes he did. You think anybody told him how to QB? Hell no. CP3 is the closest thing we’ve had to the Great Jim Plunkett since the Great Jim Plunkett.

    I’m Mr Green and I approve this message.

    :mrgreen:

  298. KoolKell Says:

    Evolution is the change in the inherited characteristics of biological populations over successive generations. Evolutionary processes give rise to diversity at every level of biological organisation, including species, individual organisms and molecules such as DNA and proteins.[1][page needed]

    Life on Earth originated and then evolved from a universal common ancestor approximately 3.7 billion years ago. Repeated speciation and the divergence of life can be inferred from shared sets of biochemical and morphological traits, or by shared DNA sequences. These homologous traits and sequences are more similar among species that share a more recent common ancestor, and can be used to reconstruct evolutionary histories, using both existing species and the fossil record. Existing patterns of biodiversity have been shaped both by speciation and by extinction.[2][page needed]

    Charles Darwin was the first to formulate a scientific argument for the theory of evolution by means of natural selection. Evolution by natural selection is a process that is inferred from three facts about populations: 1) more offspring are produced than can possibly survive, 2) traits vary among individuals, leading to differential rates of survival and reproduction, and 3) trait differences are heritable.[3] Thus, when members of a population die they are replaced by the progeny of parents that were better adapted to survive and reproduce in the environment in which natural selection took place. This process creates and preserves traits that are seemingly fitted for the functional roles they perform.[4] Natural selection is the only known cause of adaptation, but not the only known cause of evolution. Other, nonadaptive causes of evolution include mutation and genetic drift.[5]
    ————————–
    On the other hand, your post Rob sounds like an acid trip

    Gnite Gents

  299. Mr Green Says:

    Twinkle Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 11:13 pm
    The whole world laughed at Bosworth’s A$$ when he got plowed by Bo on that Monday night game.I was amazed that he got back downfield to try and make the tackle.He needed another second to get himself set….never got it
    Pow!!!

    lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

    The Great Bo Jackson. 221 yards that night. Put his stamp on greatness that night.

    :mrgreen:

  300. Intrepid Says:

    I think Plunk and Steve Grogan were the last guys that pretty much called their own games. I liked Steve Grogan, but then I didn’t hate the Patsies in the 80’s.

  301. Mr Green Says:

    Rob_Raider = Spot On!

    I get along with everybody, but when I see people dissin Creation, I feel bad for them because of the things they are missing out on. Like the miracle of child birth or the beauty of a gardern, the direction of life is awesome. Can you feel it? The old account will be settled soon ya’ll, and then everyone can rejoice in Creation without any debate because there will be nothing to debate when we are in the glorious presence of the Creator.

    :mrgreen:

  302. rob_raider Says:

    well said, my man.

  303. Twinkle Says:

    Mr Green Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 11:21 pm

    Should the Raidahs be concerned about CP3? And the fans, shoul we be concerned about CP3?

    Hell No!

    What we need to be concerned about is Knapp tryin to insert a WCO with a QB who is a big armed pocket passer.

    When Lienart has to bring along CP3 to understand the O playbook, we need to be concerned. Cuz you know that is Knapps doin. My big prayer is all this WCO is just a smokescreen and Knapp comes to his senses and lets Palmer call his own game.

    Liken CP3 to Nolan Ryan. Big strong righty who throws hard, wild but effective. Nobody told Ryan how to pich. And so should be the case with Palmer. And get this: Plunkett called is own games, yes he did. You think anybody told him how to QB? Hell no. CP3 is the closest thing we’ve had to the Great Jim Plunkett since the Great Jim Plunkett.

    I’m Mr Green and I approve this message.

    :mrgreen:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++=
    I am of the same opinion if that means anything.I hope you are correct about the smokescreen.Can’t bleach the stripes from a tiger.

  304. Twinkle Says:

    And regarding TP….took Plunk a while and a couple of teams before he came into his own.
    The 9er’s have been a good farm club for us over the years.

  305. Mr Green Says:

    Mr KK, You like Mr O and I like Mr O. He is a professed Christian and I have listened to his prayers that he leads at the weekly prayer breakfasts. Do you not believe our Prez when he speaks at the prayer breakfasts? I do. And please don’t respond with Mr B was a professed Christian, because you’ll be tryin to twist my point. Religion does not mess up religion or mankind. Mankind does. But soon the Old Account will be settled and we’ll all be free.

    But in the meantime, I’ll be waitin at the gate to get in to see the Raidahs Thurs. night in yuppie town, starbucks land, latte sippin rainsoaked Seattle.

    :mrgreen:

  306. Intrepid Says:

    I still don’t think Al Saunders is exactly hands off on the offensive scheme, and Knapp would be an egotistical jerk not to avail himself of that kind of experience and knowledge.

  307. Dhidee99 Says:

    I’m back to stir the soup

  308. raidertalk Says:

    Who do people think is gonna be the strong-side or weakside Linebacker opposite Wheeler? Is it gonna be Goethel or Burris?
    Has burris been taking most of the snaps in practice and preseason games

  309. Pirate Arrrggghhhh Says:

    Core Players (30): 
    QB Carson Palmer, QB Matt Leinart, RB Darren McFadden, FB Marcel Reece, WR Darrius Heyward-Bey, WR Denarius Moore, WR Jacoby Ford, C Stephen Wisniewski, RG Mike Brisiel, LG Cooper Carlisle, LT Jared Veldheer, RT Khalif Barnes, DE Lamar Houston, DT Richard Seymour, DT Tommy Kelly, DE Matt Shaughnessy, DL Desmond Bryant, DE Dave Tollefson, OLB Phillip Wheeler, MLB Rolando McClain, OLB Miles Burris, CB Ron Bartell, CB Shawntae Spencer, SS Tyvon Branch, DB Michael Huff, SS Mike Mitchell, FS Matt Giordano, P Shane Lechler, K Sebastian Janikowski, LS Jon Condo

    Key backups (12): 
    QB Terrelle Pryor, RB Taiwan Jones, RB Mike Goodson, TE Brandon Meyers, WR Rod Streater, WR Juron Criner, RT Joseph Barksdale, LG Tony Bergstrom, C Alex Parsons, DE Jack Crawford, DT Christo Bilukidi, LB Nathan Stupar

    Bubble (13): 
    FB Owen Schmitt, WR/PR Roscoe Parrish, TE David Ausberry, TE Richard Gordon, DT Jamie Cumbie, LB Travis Goethel, LB Carl Ihenacho, CB Demarcus Van Dyke, CB Chimdi Chekwa, CB Pat Lee, CB/KR Bryan McCann, FS Brandon Underwood

    Waiting for release: (19)
    RB Lonyae Miller, WR Derek Carrier, WR Brandon Carswell, WR Eddie McGee, WR Travionte Session, TE Kyle Efaw, TE Tory Humphrey, OT Kevin Haslam, OT Dan Knapp, OG Nick Howell, OG Lucas Nix, C Colin Miller, K Eddy Carmona, P Marquette King, DE Hall Davis, DT Dominique Hamilton, LB Kaelin Burnett, LB Chad Kilgore, CB Conroy Black, S Curtis Taylor

    PUP (1):
    OLB Aaron Curry

  310. Dhidee99 Says:

    DVD is not going any where he just needs to go out and do his job he’ll be okay. The kid Has skills

  311. rob_raider Says:

    hmm. i’m not sure about dvd and chekwa. i’m rooting for them. they’re young and talented. but they’re not reggie’s or DA’s guys. there’s no investment there. two positions were mentioned as needing major upgrades early on when reggie and DA were just getting going. TE and CB. they only brought in humphrey at TE, a player from reggie’s days at GB. maybe there just weren’t many good options at the time to sign. but they brought in a LOT of CB’s. they brought in two new starters that have looked good. and with lee, mccann, underwood, taylor, and now francies, they have a lot of options. i still they are likely to make the cut but it wouldn’t shock me if they didn’t. i mean, bringing in francies says something. they claimed him. they’re not completely sold yet on what they have apparently.

    remember. there are ALWAYS surprises on final cut day.

  312. rob_raider Says:

    my picks for potential surprise cuts:

    myers (if cooley is signed)
    seymour
    dvd/chekwa

  313. rob_raider Says:

    -Q: How quickly did the Parrish thing come about?

    -ALLEN: Pretty quickly. We wanted to get a chance to take a look at him,
    especially as a punt returner. We’re watching the waiver wires to see
    if there’s anybody that we feel like’s got a chance to help us.

    notice he said they were watching for anyone that could help them. then they sign francies. a cornerback. that can help. dvd and chekwa may be outta here.

  314. rediaR Says:

    Mr Green Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 11:29 pm
    Rob_Raider = Spot On!

    I get along with everybody, but when I see people dissin Creation, I feel bad for them because of the things they are missing out on. Like the miracle of child birth or the beauty of a gardern, the direction of life is awesome. Can you feel it? The old account will be settled soon ya’ll, and then everyone can rejoice in Creation without any debate because there will be nothing to debate when we are in the glorious presence of the Creator.
    ————————
    Nobody is missing out on anything. One does not need to believe in a creator to recognize the beauty of the universe.

  315. rediaR Says:

    I started to write a creationism rant, but I remembered this is a Raiders blog and that I have to get up in the morning.

    GO RAIDERS!
    In Reggie we trust… for now.

  316. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Just Win Baby Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
    Just Win Baby Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
    ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
    Just Win Baby Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
    Parrish couldn’t make the team in SD and they are desperate for receivers. I dont see him as anything more than a temp fill-in until Ford and/or Moore are healthy.

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    This morning you contradicted me and said that you liked the pickup.

    Reality tells us that Parrish played only two games last year ecause of his ankle and hasn’t played that many games over the last 3-4 years.
    It also tells us that the dischargers got him through free angency from Buffalo who couldn’t wait to lose him and after a look the dischargers dumped him too.

    He can’t cost much though so it doesn’t hurt to look.

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    Once again, someone who can’t tell the difference between the words “win” and “fire”. I will fight my own battles, but dont make me fight someone else’s. Ha Ha

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    You’re right brother!
    I didn’t read that handle correctly.

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