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Moore, Knapp also concerned about timing

By Steve Corkran
Tuesday, August 28th, 2012 at 3:16 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Raiders quartertback Carson Palmer first sounded the alarm when he said he is concerned about the inability to work much with injured wide receivers Jacoby Ford and Denarius Moore. Well, as it turns out, he isn’t the only one worried about the effect it’s going to have once they return.
On Tuesday, offensive coordinator Greg Knapp and Moore said they, too, are worried about not being able to get in as much time as needed in training camp and the first three exhibition games.
“It’s been a huge setback,” Knapp said, “because Denarius, I was very excited to start working with last year in the OTAs, watching all the games last year on tape. To miss the timing of that guy with our quarterback, it’s been tough. It’s been tough, I’ll be honest with you.”
Moore has missed all three exhibition games and hasn’t practiced since Aug. 4 because of a lingering hamstring injury. Ford has been sidelined with a left foot injury since the Arizona Cardinals game Aug. 17.
“I’m very concerned,” Moore said. “As far as getting timing down with the quarterback, that’s very important. And actually being out there and repping each play, getting each concept down. It’s just mental errors, too, that you have to be aware of.”
Moore said he is making progress. He added that he is hopeful that the time he spent with Palmer last season and the offseason workouts will expedite the reacclimation process.
“Yes, it is some confidence right there but, then again, that was last year,” Moore said. “This is a new year, and you’ve got to prove yourself again. That’s what my mind-set is right now, just hurry up and get back out there so I can showcase it again.”
The flip side to the equation is that rookies Juron Criner and Rod Streater have received increased reps and playing time in games with Ford and Moore out so much.
That, in turn, should reap dividends for the Raiders in the long run, Knapp said.
“It has given the opportunity for these young guys to grow and, in the long haul, when Denarius comes back healthy actually might have been a blessing for us.”
Coach Dennis Allen said Ford still isn’t able to run on his injured foot. However, Ford was able to catch some balls from the JUGS machine, and he watched practice without the protective boot on his foot.

– Ford, Moore, defensive tackle Richard Seymour, linebacker Aaron Curry, center Stefen Wisniewski and cornerback Pat Lee did not practice Tuesday.
Tight end Richard Gordon returned to practice after missing some time with sore ribs.

– The Washington Redskins released veteran tight end Chris Cooley on Tuesday morning. When asked about the potential of pursuing Cooley, Allen issued his standard response.
“We’re going to look at anybody that comes available, and I don’t care what the position is,” Allen said. “If we feel like a guy can make us better, then we’re going to look at it. I wouldn’t single out the tight end position.
“What you do in the NFL is, you try to get better every single day, and part of the deal is, when people come across the waiver wire or people get released from other teams, you’re looking. So, yeah, we’ll look look. We’ll look at anybody.”
Allen anointed Brandon Myers the leading candidate to replace released starter Kevin Boss at tight end. Second-year players Davis Ausberry and Gordon remain in the mix for the job.
At one point, it seemed as if Ausberry was being groomed for the role. However, his play has been inconsistent in training camp and the three games so far.
“David’s been a little up and down,” Allen said. “He’s really made some nice plays athletically and then he’s had his mental lapses. But he’s still a young player, and he’s a young player with talent, and I’m excited about getting an opportunity to work with him.”
Cooley is subject to the waiver process, which means he can be claimed by another team within the next 24 hours. If he clears waivers, he is free to sign with any team, including the Redskins.

– Doesn’t sound as if there’s any reason for concern regarding kicker Sebastian Janikowski and his sore groin.
So said Allen, once again.
“I don’t anticipate that being any issue at all,” Allen said.
As for kicking Thursday night, Allen said Janikowski is healthy enough to do so, but that doesn’t mean that the Raiders will rush him back, given the opener is less than two weeks away.

– Knapp knows all too well how loud it gets at the CenturyLink Field in Seattle, the site of the Raiders final exhibition game. If Knapp has his way, it will be plenty loud for the Raiders on Thursday.
“Oh, goodness, I’m hoping it does,” Knapp said. “I would love it to be. We’ve been working on silent cadence in practice for that reason. Spending my year up there in 2009, I did find out some information how they developed that stadium and the echo they created. It is deafening. It’s hard to concentrate in there
“And that’s one reason why, what was it, the Giants had 15 false starts in one game? It’s deafening. So, I’m hoping that we do get that effect because that would be good for our ball club.”

– Knapp found out all he needed to know about rookie wide receiver Rod Streater during one particular sequence early in training camp.
“I’m surprised at how much moxie he’s got for a rookie,” Knapp said. “I kind of knew early on. There was a situation at camp, about week 2, where I lost my vocal chords on the kid and later in that practice, he comes back and makes a big play.
“I pulled him aside and said, ‘That’s exactly what you need to do. If you make a mistake, don’t let somebody yelling at you, somebody booing you or somebody critiquing you on the sideline affect how you do the next down.’ For a rookie, he shows a lot of moxie.”
Streater has caught 18 passes for 165 yards in three exhibition games, tops on the Raiders.

– Criner flashed during offseason workouts every day the media were permitted to watch the proceedings. It wasn’t until Saturday night against the Detroit Lions that we were treated to his penchant for making the difficult look routine.
For good reason, too, Knapp said. It’s easy for young players to shine in offseason workouts, it’s quite another once the learning curve gets accelerated in training camp.
“Yeah, that is a common thing with young guys, especially receivers,” Knapp said. “In the OTAs, when we’re in start-up mode, brand new offense, you don’t teach a whole lot. You just teach the core stuff and get a lot of feel for the core stuff. Once we go to training camp, though, we got to expand our book.
“So, a lot of information came his way and there was a little more thinking going on. But in the last seven days here, you can see how his game has improved. He’s not thinking as much, so he’s executing at a higher level.”
Sure enough, Criner caught two passes for touchdowns against the Lions. Both times, it was his ability to turn a difficult throw into a reception that keyed the plays.
For his part, Criner said he realized that it would take time to learn the offense and reach the point where he could let his ability take over, without thinking so much.
“Yeah, that’s kind of what was expected,” Criner said. “The coaches know that the guys have got a lot of information coming in, coming into a totally new, different style of offense and offensive play. So they’re going to be on you about (missed assignments) and stuff, but they definitely understand that we’re getting it down. But at this point we should be pretty much familiar with the playbook.”

– Roscoe Parrish made his Raiders debut at practice today. He said it was an easy call signing with the Raiders once they called Monday upon his release from the San Diego Chargers.
Now, he is primed to take over the punt-returning duties and do whatever else is asked of him by the Raiders. He also is capable of returning kicks and playing slot receiver, roles he handled from time to time during his seven years with the Buffalo Bills.
Yet, he makes no bones about it, returning punts is his speciality, and that’s what the Raiders are looking for most from him, at least in the short term.
“I’ve been (returning punts) since growing up and just coming over here when they need a returner is kind of like, a good feeling because that’ what I do,” Parrish said. “Just be back there and make plays and just not going to take anything for granted, just go out there. I don’t know how much I’m going to play Thursday. Look forward to being in that black and silver.”
Allen said he is intrigued about Parrish’s punt returning skills, ever mindful of Parrish’s past success in that regard.
“I like the fact that there for a couple years he was in the tops of the league in terms of being able to return the ball,” Allen said. “The fact that he can get under it and catch it and make a move and get upfield and gain some yards for us in the return game. And that’s an area that we got to get better at.”

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  • RAIDERMAN99

    rob_raider Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 6:03 pm
    i mean who could look at the world and universe and see no design?
    ==================================================
    “The human mind is not capable of grasping the Universe. We are like little children entering a huge library. The walls are covered to the ceilings with books in many different tongues. The child knows that someone must have written these books. It does not know who or how. It does not understand the languages in which they are written. But the child notes a definite plan in the arrangement of the books – a mysterious order which it does not comprehend, but only dimly suspects.”

    Albert Einstein.

  • DJ Johnny

    Twinkle Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 8:32 pm
    Never mind …got the wrong link….I’ll post if anyone
    is interested

    I am.

    Bo ranks high on my list of the best running back specimens in football history for size, speed, and power.

    Also in the team photo:

    -Marcus Dupree 6-3 235…world class speed. You tube him you’ll see what i mean

    -Herschel Walker 6-2 225.

    There’s others of course but those always stood out to me…along with Bo.

  • RAIDERMAN99

    DeMarcus Van Dyke ‏@D_VanDyke8
    Dear God, Thank You
    ================================
    Hey, at least we know DVD isn’t an atheist.

    If there’s no atheists in foxholes, are there any in a huddle ?

    Pray to put on some weight, DVD.

  • Raiders for life

    250.JB Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
    Add 1 cut 1. Basic math at this point.

    #############################3

    Who got cut for Parrish and Coye? I thought the Raiders were at the mandatory 75. That would mean two other players were released.

  • Gandalf Greyhem

    Frodo is not gay. A man of his significance does not have time for women. Or men for that matter. His business is with men, but not of the fleshy kind. Frodo is a humble man. Wise beyond his years. He may even be celibate. But he is now living in the Distance Shores, and we will never know.

  • http://www.GodIsImaginary.com RaiderDuck

    Raiders For Life Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
    250.JB Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
    Add 1 cut 1. Basic math at this point.

    #############################3

    Who got cut for Parrish and Coye? I thought the Raiders were at the mandatory 75. That would mean two other players were released.

    ===========================================

    Hurd was Waived/Injured to make room for Parrish.

    Somebody said Conroy Black got the axe for Francies.

  • Raiders for life

    OK, Zack Hurd was waived to make room for Parrish, who got cut for Coye?

  • DJ Johnny

    Coye Francies. CB.

    6th rd. draft choice. Only APPEARED in a few games two yrs. ago after falling out of the league last season.

    Waived by Seahawks.

    Nothing else to say about him except for that fight in the lockerroom at Cleveland.

  • da trinity

    Madden13!!!!!!!!
    Raidersallday31 on ps3.
    Want sum, come get sum.

  • Raiders for life

    Damn Duck, your fast.
    Thanks.

  • RaiderRetribution

    Raiders waive/injured OT Z. Hurd for the PR/WR Parrish; don’t know about the Coye (cb) signing just learned about that signing from all of you here.

  • RaiderRetribution

    Message to DVD & Chekwa, “step your perfoMessage to DVD & Chekwa, “step up your performance.”

  • MiamiRaider78

    Coye Francies, CB, San Jose State

    Francies is one of those rare physical specimens who carries a high boom-bust factor into the 2009 NFL Draft. His best asset is speed — with a 4.35 40 time (2009 time), Francies showed he can run with most NFL receiver. He showed great closing speed, good tracking technique and he plays the ball well while in the air. Francies reacts quickly on plays in front of him and also showed good adjustments when backpedaling. A workout warrior, he will show up to support the run and does not shy away from contact. There were character concerns early on in his career, but he had a model stint at San Jose State. Francies however doe lack top tier experience (he only has one year experience as a full time starter with San Jose State). He is also thin as a rail and needs to add bulk and upper body strength. Francies is still very raw and it will take time to adjust to the speed of the pro game. A better press defender than a zone cover player at this time, Francies does not show shutdown ability. Francies has good, but raw talent and is far from being a finished product. His ability to press cover and his tracking technique are better suited for a safety position.The lack of experience is a major concern, but because of a perceived lack of top cornerback prospects in this class, Francies will probably go higher than his talent and level of play may warrant. Nevertheless, Francies projects as a solid corner with versatility

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    My, oh my what a wonderful day!
    Plenty of sunshine heading my way
    Zip-a-dee-doo-dah, zip-a-dee-ay

    Mister Bluebird on my shoulder
    It’s the truth, it’s actch’ll
    Ev’rything is satisfactch’ll
    Zip-a-dee-doo-dah, zip-a-dee-ay
    Wonderful feeling, wonderful day!

  • DJ Johnny

    263,

    Thx Miami.

  • DJ Johnny

    264,

    Nice post.

  • MiamiRaider78

    My pleasure, Dj! First thing I did was look up multiple scouting reports. Not sure I like the part that says he’s as thin as a rail…Like DVD? Ehhh

    This pending suspension by the league for Mcclain’s actions in Alabama are worrisome. It’s definitely going to be imposed but to what extent and when? Wish it could happen already, kind of. Wonder what’s plan B!

  • Raidernationdave

    LB Slade Norris cut by Lions.

  • alex7

    Pryor will at NO point this season beat out Leinart for the #2 spot. Again, Pryor played street ball games 1 and 2, underthrew a deep pass game 3, and completed a beautiful throw later that game. He’ll get into some games for his running ability (bootleg plays), but that’s it.

    2 terrible pre-season games, terrible two months of practice, one game with one or two solid throws.

    A college history or terrible accuracy.

    #3 QB. Not even a backup.

  • alex7

    Taiwan Jones will be the most sought after fantasy football player if DMAC ever goes down this year.

    Hmm.

  • MiamiRaider78

    One can only hope both DMAC and Jones stay healthy through out the year. Most explosive back field in the NFL if such is the case. Adding a bruiser back there can help as well.

    Talk about speed on the field, damn!

  • Intrepid

    alex7 Says: Pryor will at NO point this season beat out Leinart for the #2 spot./////////////Doesn’t have to. Leinart has had 3 season ending injuries in his last 8 starts so if Palmer goes down, Pryor won’t have to wait very long.

  • rob_raider

    KoolKell Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 6:47 pm
    Like I said, I never understood how so many Right-wing, Republican, Social Conservative, Bible thumpers came to be attracted to the Raider brand.

    *************

    well, if ur referring to me, u couldn’t be more wrong. yes, i’m a Christian, but surprise, i’m not right wing nor republican, nor conservative. and i’m not really a Bible thumper. i don’t believe u get the message across that way. i’m not a zealot and i don’t like people who use Christianity as an excuse to hate or exclude. Christ’s example is what i’m all about. He was a great man and loved everyone. preached peace and understanding. hung out with prostitutes and thieves. he was a fantastic example of how to live ur life. if everyone tried to live like He did, the wold would be a much more wonderful place.

  • Kirk

    alex7 Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 10:19 pm
    Pryor will at NO point this season beat out Leinart for the #2 spot.

    ………………………………………

    Wanna bet?

  • rob_raider

    RAIDERMAN99 Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
    rob_raider Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 6:03 pm
    i mean who could look at the world and universe and see no design?
    ==================================================
    “The human mind is not capable of grasping the Universe. We are like little children entering a huge library. The walls are covered to the ceilings with books in many different tongues. The child knows that someone must have written these books. It does not know who or how. It does not understand the languages in which they are written. But the child notes a definite plan in the arrangement of the books – a mysterious order which it does not comprehend, but only dimly suspects.”

    Albert Einstein.

    **********

    what a great quote. the guy got it. picture a scientist from another world walking into the library. he would refuse to believe the books were written or created. he would swear they “evolved” from other materials. refusing to see what a child can see.

    but not all scientists are atheists, including darwin, by the way. many see science as trying to see how God works, and see their studies as awe-inspiring.

  • JLofty

    2nd that Rob…

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    Agreed Rob.

  • Twinkle

    DJ here you go.They go through all the ways to time folks
    and seem to making their own fastest 40 list.

    http://www.gridironstuds.com/blog/xmlrpc.php

  • JLofty

    How come TPryor isn’t in on d@mn near Every play? Kid is scary fast+ big. Learning TE won’t hurt his QB skills any will it?

  • Twinkle

    No thats blocked also

  • Twinkle
  • Twinkle

    Figures….. that links good

  • Twinkle

    JLofty Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 10:47 pm

    How come TPryor isn’t in on d@mn near Every play? Kid is scary fast+ big. Learning TE won’t hurt his QB skills any will it?
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Only as far as his head is concerned.Confidence is paramount I imagine.

  • rob_raider

    Alex7 Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 10:19 pm
    Pryor will at NO point this season beat out Leinart for the #2 spot. Again, Pryor played street ball games 1 and 2, underthrew a deep pass game 3, and completed a beautiful throw later that game. He’ll get into some games for his running ability (bootleg plays), but that’s it.

    2 terrible pre-season games, terrible two months of practice, one game with one or two solid throws.

    A college history or terrible accuracy.

    #3 QB. Not even a backup.

    *******************

    see, there u go. he’s not ready and he will likely stay #3 this year, especially since leinart not only has starting experience, but has looked pretty solid so far with the raiders. but saturday’s game was huge. if we had cut him before that game, he probably would have gotten a few sniffs, and likely some gm’s asking about a position switch. but not now buddy. if we cut him today, nearly every team would line up to get him. to develop him, sur. but he turned heads, brother. guaranteed that nfl people all over the league perked up and said “whoa!”. a qb simply can not do what he did and not get people talking. everyone is waiting to see more. but while most nfl people had serious doubts and probably even dismissed him before, they are ALL thinking “maybe” now. the upside just got got exponentially higher. because if he can put together his mechanics, he could incredible. he has a great arm. great escapability. great size and strength. and he’s completed a lot of passes. maybe not as many as you would like, but here’s one for ya: if he completes 50% of his passes and you would like him to complete 60%, does his rare running ability make up for it? think about how many plays he will not need to complete a pass on. remember steve young taking off for all those first downs? john elway? how about michael vick two years ago? michale vick never had a higher completion rate than 56% with atlanta and as low as 44%. then 62% with philly 2 years ago and 60% last year. guys develop. pryor has a lot of people talking. and his work ethic and character and drive suggest he may get there. he’s very coachable according to everyone. not a prima dona. puts in lots of work. wants to be great. watch out world.

  • MiamiRaider78

    I’d love, just once, to see Pryor lined up as a WR and give him the option of either running or throwing it on a reverse. =)

  • Twinkle

    DJ while you are there,check out the catch for the pick by the DB in the video on the right.

  • Twinkle

    Half the list are\were Raiders.

  • Intrepid

    Now you know, Twinkle. Just copy and paste a URL here and it comes out a link. Took me a while to figure that one out.

  • rob_raider

    one last thing on the evolution tip. similar to a comment i already made but i think it’s funny. imagine a scientist coming to this world from another. all life is extinct, post-armageddon. he sees a car sitting in a road, abandoned. would he immediately recognize it as being something “designed”. why can’t people look around our world and see unbelievable complexity that makes a car design look like a child’s project and recognize “something” made this? isn’t it obvious? and if it was made, then there has to be a Creator. maybe we know this Creator and maybe we don’t but isn’t pretty basic?

  • Twinkle

    Intepid yep…Dylan put just about as good as any

    “don’t know what you have to pay
    to get out of going through all these things twice.”

    Got this fancy app to do the link thing and Cut and Paste
    works better.

  • Twinkle

    *it

  • Intrepid

    Twinkle,interesting link. Thanks.

  • rob_raider

    i’m thinking of going to the monday night game. looking at getting tix. anyone here tailgating? i’m going with my wife. most people we know are 49ers fans (sunnyvale). i named my kid after marcus allen, so……

  • Twinkle

    The whole world laughed at Bosworth’s A$$ when he got plowed by Bo on that Monday night game.I was amazed that he got back downfield to try and make the tackle.He needed another second to get himself set….never got it
    Pow!!!

  • rob_raider

    i have to say i think cooley is a gift for the raiders. a productive, healthy TE, only 30 just became available for nothing. myers is only ok and likely will never be better. gordon has a history of paddle-hands. good blocker though. ausberry is the future but it’s not easy going from WR to TE. he’s really not quite ready. cooley could get 60/650/5. none of our three can come close to that.

  • Intrepid

    Rob_raider, half the morning crew-slight exaggeration- go to the games and are more than glad to tell you where they’re at and what they’ll happily share with you. So if you’re with your wife,you’ve been warned. Hah.

  • Mr Green

    Should the Raidahs be concerned about CP3? And the fans, shoul we be concerned about CP3?

    Hell No!

    What we need to be concerned about is Knapp tryin to insert a WCO with a QB who is a big armed pocket passer.

    When Lienart has to bring along CP3 to understand the O playbook, we need to be concerned. Cuz you know that is Knapps doin. My big prayer is all this WCO is just a smokescreen and Knapp comes to his senses and lets Palmer call his own game.

    Liken CP3 to Nolan Ryan. Big strong righty who throws hard, wild but effective. Nobody told Ryan how to pich. And so should be the case with Palmer. And get this: Plunkett called is own games, yes he did. You think anybody told him how to QB? Hell no. CP3 is the closest thing we’ve had to the Great Jim Plunkett since the Great Jim Plunkett.

    I’m Mr Green and I approve this message.

    :mrgreen:

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    Evolution is the change in the inherited characteristics of biological populations over successive generations. Evolutionary processes give rise to diversity at every level of biological organisation, including species, individual organisms and molecules such as DNA and proteins.[1][page needed]

    Life on Earth originated and then evolved from a universal common ancestor approximately 3.7 billion years ago. Repeated speciation and the divergence of life can be inferred from shared sets of biochemical and morphological traits, or by shared DNA sequences. These homologous traits and sequences are more similar among species that share a more recent common ancestor, and can be used to reconstruct evolutionary histories, using both existing species and the fossil record. Existing patterns of biodiversity have been shaped both by speciation and by extinction.[2][page needed]

    Charles Darwin was the first to formulate a scientific argument for the theory of evolution by means of natural selection. Evolution by natural selection is a process that is inferred from three facts about populations: 1) more offspring are produced than can possibly survive, 2) traits vary among individuals, leading to differential rates of survival and reproduction, and 3) trait differences are heritable.[3] Thus, when members of a population die they are replaced by the progeny of parents that were better adapted to survive and reproduce in the environment in which natural selection took place. This process creates and preserves traits that are seemingly fitted for the functional roles they perform.[4] Natural selection is the only known cause of adaptation, but not the only known cause of evolution. Other, nonadaptive causes of evolution include mutation and genetic drift.[5]
    ————————–
    On the other hand, your post Rob sounds like an acid trip

    Gnite Gents

  • Mr Green

    Twinkle Says:
    August 28th, 2012 at 11:13 pm
    The whole world laughed at Bosworth’s A$$ when he got plowed by Bo on that Monday night game.I was amazed that he got back downfield to try and make the tackle.He needed another second to get himself set….never got it
    Pow!!!

    lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

    The Great Bo Jackson. 221 yards that night. Put his stamp on greatness that night.

    :mrgreen:

  • Intrepid

    I think Plunk and Steve Grogan were the last guys that pretty much called their own games. I liked Steve Grogan, but then I didn’t hate the Patsies in the 80′s.