Four recently UDAs make roster; Curry left on PUP


The Raiders pared 22 players from their roster Friday night in the final mandatory cutdown. One gets the sense that general manager Reggie McKenzie and coach Dennis Allen are far from finished shaping the roster in advance of the regular-season opener.
As expected, the Raiders kept veteran outside linebacker Aaron Curry on the physically unable to perform list as a result of his sore knees. Beyond that, there wasn’t any real surprise among the moves.
Perhaps more surprising, the Raiders kept cornerback Coye Francies, who was signed Wednesday, and ended up with four recently undrafted free agents making the team – wide receiver Rod Streater, guard Lucas Nix, defensive tackle Jamie Cumbie (2011) and linebacker Carl Ihenacho (2010).
Curry is ineligible to practice or play in any regular-season games for the first six weeks of the season. He can be activated during a 21-day window beyond the first six weeks.
Curry has not practiced for more than two months. Allen was hopeful that Curry’s knees would respond to treatments from a specialist in Southern California. To no avail.
As a result, rookie Miles Burris is slated to being the season in Curry’s place as the starting weak-side linebacker.
The Raiders are off Saturday and Sunday. McKenzie and Allen no doubt will be spending an inordinate amount of time scouring the waiver wire.
“Whatever moves we feel like give us a chance to be better, we’re going to make those moves,” Allen said in a conference call about 90 minutes before the Raiders submitted their moves. “We’re evaluating any and all positions to see if there’s someone out there that can help us.”
Based on the way the Raiders reserves played Thursday night in the team’s exhibition finale, it’s likely the Raiders can find a few upgrades from the more than 1,000 players purged from rosters leaguewide this week.
Few of Oakland’s projected starters played beyond the opening offensive and defensive series. Hence, the projected backups and roster hopefuls got plenty of playing time.
Allen wasn’t thrilled by much of what he saw, he said.
“That’s been a concern, the depth on our roster,” Allen said. “It just reconfirmed that we have to upgrade the bottom half of the roster because depth is a concern.”
Linebacker Nathan Stupar is the only member of Oakland’s 2012 draft class that didn’t make the 53-man roster despite shining against the Seahawks on Thursday night, Allen said.
“It’s been a little bit of an up-and-down deal with Nate,” Allen said before cuts were announced, “but he came out (Thursday) and played and acted like he wanted to try to get a spot on this roster.”
Apparently, it was a case of too little, too late for Stupar. Now, he has to hope he clears waivers and the Raiders decide to sign him to their practice squad.
Teams are permitted to sign as many as eight players to their practice squad once the waiver period has ended Saturday.
In other news, Allen said the handful of players who have been injured for more than a week worked out Friday. Therefore, he is hopeful that some or all of them will be healthy enough to play in the regular-season opener Sept. 10.
That list includes wide receivers Jacoby Ford and Denarius Moore, center Stefen Wisniewski and defensive tackle Richard Seymour.


Steve Corkran

  • Just Fire Baby

    I may disagree with some of you,and take some of your money.


    I just need the Raiders to score more than the Vikings, Dolphins, Browns, Cardinals, Rams, Redskins, Chiefs, Bucs, Jaguars, Jets and one other team.

    I feel pretty damn confident about this.

  • RaiderRetribution

    question for those that may know:

    George Atkitson IIIof Notre Dame with the big game today; is that the grandson, nephew of our Raider legend George Atkitson, any relation?

  • 1960AutumnWind

    #498 True and that post gives me hope. Now try RB and TE (unfortunately). However this excercise with QB’s CB’s and Safeties and OL all look better as well. DL is about the same. It all boils down to injuries with this team.

  • RaiderRetribution

    if willing to play position other than qb (WR, DB, RB) all for bringing in Josh Johnson, Seneca Wallace

  • RaiderRetribution

    Autumn wind especially our tackles, Vehldeer or Barnes go down would be more devestating than Mcfadden getting injured

  • Raid uh Max

    Alright, some of you people are clueless on here. We are not talking about an overhaul of our roster, we are talking about upgrading a few back up positions to strengthen our DEPTH! For example if we could pick up Hightower I believe he would be an upgrade over Goodson. And there is a few other positions we could possibly upgrade our back up positions and strengthen our DEPTH! Man, learn football and stop making yourself look stupid.

  • RaiderRetribution


    pretty simple

    Last year

    Boss, Meyrs, rookies Gordon & Ausberry

    this year
    Meyrs, Gordon & Ausberry (no longer rookies)

  • 1960AutumnWind


    Good point! I guess I just don’t think of that because MFad is injured all the time and JV and KB seem to be heathy right now. I wish we had an upgrade for Barksdale!

  • 1960AutumnWind

    A lot of good points made this morning… Looking forward to Monday night! Out.

  • RaiderRetribution


    last season

    McFadden, Bush, Jones, Cartwright (special teams player)

    this year

    McFadden, Jones, Goodson
    faster, not as strong between the tackles, no special teams ace


    last year


    This year

    Reece just as good, maybe better and Schmitt much better blocker at FB, Raiders haven’t had since Jon Ritchie.

  • GG

    Hightower isn’t an upgrade over Goodson tho, he hasn’t recovered well from his ACL injury. His knee flares up after some running, playing. Why he got cut.

  • RaiderRetribution


    I think this is Barksdale last season to prove himself, Nix just might be that guy; has the frame to add weight if needed, has the talent, raw, not sure if the Raiders are projecting him at guard or tackle;

    OT will definately be a priority in next years draft.

    Vehldeer & Barnes just might be the best bookends in the NFL.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Hightower doesn’t play much special teams either, especially with a busted knee.

    So he would HAVE TO be better carrying the ball over Goodson, just to break even as a roster spot.

  • RaiderRetribution

    funny how everyone says rbs are not that important anymore;

    until you don’t have one

    aka Detroit, San Diego, Green Bay

  • Chris in NY

    I might be wrong, but I believe that’s George Atkinson’s son.

  • Raidernationdave

    West Brom 2, Everton 0

    Go Baggies!

    “Win, lose or tie…Baggie Nation til you die!”


    The Baltimore Ravens run the ZBS, and they are the most physically intimidating team of the last decade+.

    If it’s good enough for Ray Lewis, it is good enough for me.
    When you think of Raven intimidation, their offense doesn’t exaactly come to mind. It’s their defense that’s been intimidating.

    But I get what you’re saying. And I agree their offense does play hard nosed ball. (Wish we’d have signed McLain, be nice to have one guy with that name that can beast)

    Also understand that the ZBS can be very effective and it’s not puzzy ball.

    Still say it ain’t RAIDER ball.

    I agree that rule changes have made an over reliance on man to man, bump/press coverage impractical and Al was slow and reluctant to admit/realize this.

    And although I admit the ZBS can be effective, I do not think that means that straight ahead power blocking can’t be.

    To me, straight ahead, man to man, power blocking is RAIDER football.

    Guess you had to live through the glory years to appreciate that the Raids once had their own distinctive style – and on offense, the power blocking OLine was a centerpiece of that identity.

    I’d prefer to try to build in that direction again, instead of going ZBS.

    But to each his own.

  • UCLA Raiders

    UCLA Raiders Says:
    September 1st, 2012 at 9:44 am
    Rob_raider Says:
    August 31st, 2012 at 8:56 pm
    I think Seymour may retire.
    He should retire but will hang on to collect $15M this year before signing with NE Patsies to retire as one. I sound like a broken record but we have AD to thank for Seymour’s contract situation to put us in this kinda bind. Another genius move which in terms of worst AD moves doesn’t even come close to his all time masterpiece of Walker’s contract but close.

  • ohioraider

    ZBS is a done deal. Why you guys wanna debate this? Biggest challenge this year is going to be the defense.


    JT Says:
    August 31st, 2012 at 9:45 pm
    91 crawford made the team? Really?

    Showed NADA on preseason action.

    Crawford is really strong and athletic. He played with Wiz at Penn State and Wiz recommended him.

    Hard to say how good a football player he is since he didn’t grow up with the sport in England.

    If he played any rugby growing up then he certainly knows how to smack guys around.


    Chris in NY Says:
    September 1st, 2012 at 9:43 am
    I might be wrong, but I believe that’s George Atkinson’s son.

    Is that true? I think my son told me that Atkinson’s son was playing. Does Jack Tatus have a son out there?

    KK ought to know that since he claims to know Atkinson.

  • ohioraider

    SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
    September 1st, 2012 at 9:17 am

    I had concerns about giving up the draft picks and salary for Carson at the time of the deal because of his age…..however, if CP can resurrect those season in Cincy the deal will be worth it.

    One of my frustrations with the Raiders (org and fanbase) is the low standard of play that is tolerated from highly paid players.

    We should have the same expectations for Carson, DMAC and Huff as one would have for Ryan, McCoy and Reed
    Well, that was the achilles heal of Al’s regime. He let the inmates run the asylum.


    *Tatum. Sorry Jack.

  • Chris in NY

    Seymour will be fine. I couldn’t care less if a vet like him takes most of preseason and preseason practices off to preserve his body for the reg season. Actually, it’s the smart move.

  • Just Fire Baby Says:
    September 1st, 2012 at 8:09 am
    HUE top 10 offense.Knapp never made below 23.nuff said.


    Knapp has OC’d a top 3 scoring offense more recently than the Raiders have made the playoffs.

    That’s a lie!!!
    He had a top 3 scoring offense in SF in 2001, and we played in the SB in 2002!
    I’m starting to think you are from Mich too.

  • Knapp has OC’d a top 3 scoring offense more recently than the Raiders have made the playoffs.

    WTF do You keep posting this dumb crap which is also a lie?
    I know you went to Chico but it’s simple math.
    2001: knapp had a top 3 scoring offense
    2002: Raiders played in a SB
    It’s not rocket science! It’s simple math!!!
    God help us!


    OSU just scored the first TD of the Urban era. Great catch by the WR.

  • Just Fire Baby

    That’s a lie!!!
    He had a top 3 scoring offense in SF in 2001, and we played in the SB in 2002!


    2003, top 5 offense.

    He has also OC’d in 4 playoff games, and hung up 38+ points in 2 of the 4 games.

  • Also, WTF is the point if saying that dumb crap?
    10 years ago I was 50 pounds lighter.
    10 years ago we were a SB team.
    Who the EFF cares?
    The last 4 years as OC with 3 different teams his offense was ranked in the 20’s in scoring, and he was demoted to a QB coach the last 2 years of his career.
    But hey, 11 years ago he had a top 3 scoring offense!

  • Just Fire Baby Says:
    September 1st, 2012 at 10:12 am
    That’s a lie!!!
    He had a top 3 scoring offense in SF in 2001, and we played in the SB in 2002!


    2003, top 5 offense.

    Not in scoring which what you said!
    His offense was ranked 9th in scoring in 2003!

  • Just Fire Baby

    The point is, people feel hopeless with Knapp, and yet told us we would make the playoffs every preseason the last 10 years.

    So even though Knapp has had the same level of success as an OC as Al did as an Owner/GM, everyone had blind faith with Al, and now have no faith in Knapp after 4 preseason games.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Also, WTF is the point if saying that dumb crap?
    10 years ago I was 50 pounds lighter.
    10 years ago we were a SB team.
    Who the EFF cares?


    I feel the same way when everyone tells me about Al and “Raider football”.

  • Knapp’s offense in scoring:
    01: 3rd
    02: 13th
    03: 9th
    04: 16th
    05: 14th
    06: 25th
    07: 23rd
    08: 29th
    09: 25th
    10: demoted
    11: demoted

  • Just Fire Baby Says:
    September 1st, 2012 at 10:16 am
    The point is, people feel hopeless with Knapp, and yet told us we would make the playoffs every preseason the last 10 years.

    So even though Knapp has had the same level of success as an OC as Al did as an Owner/GM, everyone had blind faith with Al, and now have no faith in Knapp after 4 preseason games.

    Really? The guy had 2 good years out of a 9 year career, and you are comparing his success (lack of) to Al’s.
    You are a finance major. 2/9 = same success rate as Al?
    Stop it!!!

  • GG

    Knapp degraded into predictability. Why his offenses struggle. Armchair Coaches like us are onto him, think how much actual DCs are onto him then.

    We saw the staple of his offense in the pre-season, which is 3/5’s of 3rd and long being a draw play, 1/5 a deep pass, and 1/5 a screen.

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    Scheme plays a role to be sure. The defensive scheme the last few years are atrocious and the preparation was bad.

    However, these “elite” players have to make a doggone play too.

    The Raiders have enough difference makers on both sides of the ball to make the playoffs regardless of ZBS, 3-4, whatever.

    Play up to your pay

  • Go Buckeyes!!!!!
    Damn you Mich!

  • GG

    Our offensive skill positions are full of dynamic players. They need dynamic play-calling to better utilize their ability to execute and perform. If you show your hand so much with scripted play-calling that Knapp seems to do, or just are afraid to be aggressive, the players end up looking like they can’t play well. Good play-calling is like being a magician, deception/sleight of hand is key. How many times have we been able to ‘tell’ what a play is going to be pre-snap?

  • oakfoshow

    I think some guys are just tired of loseing and are willing to hang their hopes on a brand new season and overlook the obvious.Knapp sucks.


    So even though Knapp has had the same level of success as an OC as Al did as an Owner/GM…
    OK, now you’ve gone too far.

    I know you’ve only experienced the mostly bad years – but to state that Knapp had the same level of success as the great Al Davis is pure insanity.

    Knapp has had a mostly undistinguished career.

    Al Davis is a football immortal.

    Let’s be real.

    This Knapp-mania has gone too far !

  • GG

    Good quick example…

    The Cowboys run a lot of draw plays, but a lot of the time they involve the QB making either a drop-back from under center, keying a receiver, then handing the delay. Or, nuances like a one-step drop, turning to the Z receiver, quick pump-fake like it’s a screen or quick-hit, then handing the delay off. Hue/Saunders used a few of these last season with good success, and not telegraphed on 3rd and long but on 1st or 2nd down.

  • raidersmartone

    young american, i 4surely disagree with u,how can u criticize hue jackson of his red zone perc.defencencies,while lets go take a knapp offense calls consecutive zbs run plays on 1st and goal 2nd and goal and even whttt?? haha 3rd and goal? ”c mon” sounds like camparing oranges and lemons 2me brah!!!lol

  • jesusraiderjim

    J Hill Says:
    September 1st, 2012 at 7:51 am
    Bush was a FA who chased the higher paycheck to BACKUP Forte.

    He didn’t want to be here
    Good cause he couldn’t throw a block to save his life and I could not watch us at 1st and goal get stuffed 3 times in a row. although that happened with D Mc in the Detroit game. No comparision just sayin.

  • nyraider

    i am concerned with Knapps history and the implementation of the ZBS. he will be under fire very quickly if the O doesnt produce. just dont think basing opinions on pre season is fair with respect to coaching. its one thing to watch dvd get torched by borderline nfl receivers and feel he should be cut. But coaches hold back strategic plays during preseason. i wanted saunders at OC but at this point i cannot throw knapp undr the bus. im hoping dmac stays healthy cause that will make everyone look good..

  • Post 502. That’s his son. George has twin boys. Josh an George lll
    I know them personally.

  • oakfoshow

    I used to love grudens shovel pass on third down.Rember the one againt pittsburg on 3rd and 17 at 1 yard line?First down. That was fantastic stuff.

  • George used to date my ex wifes home girl. They used to go to all the games an he been to my house a cuple times. I knew his boys as well

  • nyraider

    hue jack , very good offensive coordinator from the 20 to 20. poor offensive coordinator in red zone. jano saved hue many times knocking down 45+yd fgs last year

  • oakfoshow

    When darren went down on week 3(as usual) bush came in and damn near had a thousand yard season.just sayin.

  • oakfoshow

    Week 6 I mean.