Notes, observations from Raiders exhibition finale


For the record, Raiders coach Dennis Allen called Thursday night’s 21-3 loss to the Seattle Seahawks “significant” because it came in the final tune-up before the regular-season opener. Deep down, though, Allen knows this game won’t be remembered by many, if any, 10 days from now.
That is, if the Raiders starters take the field against the San Diego Chargers on Sept. 10 at the Oakland Coliseum and play as well as Allen and general manager Reggie McKenzie think they’re going to play.
After all, at least 22 of the players who played Thursday night won’t be around for the game, possibly more if McKenzie is able to find better options among the more than 1,000 players cut Monday and Friday.

— Allen made good on his promise to use his starters, for the most part, though many other teams didn’t take any chances with some or all of their projected starters.
Not all of the starters played — defensive tackles Richard Seymour and Tommy Kelly, wide receivers Denarius Moore and Jacoby Ford, center Stefen Wisniewski and running back Darren McFadden were among those who didn’t play because of injury or added rest.
Even so, the starters didn’t get a whole lot of playing time. Quarterback Carson Palmer, for instance, lasted only six plays, and he handed off the ball all six of those plays.

— Recent acquisition Roscoe Parrish couldn’t have had much worse of a debut than the one he put forth Thursday night.
He fumbled away the ball at the end of his first punt return for strike one. On the second one, he struggled getting his helmet squared away — how does that happen, by the way? — sprinted toward the right sideline for the ball, dived at the last second and muffed it. Fortunately for Parrish, the Seahawks defender who recovered the ball was out of bounds at the time.
Even so, damage done. Parrish was handed a golden opportunity to be the Raiders punt returner to start the season, and he all but fumbled it away.
Allen diplomatically said afterward that Parrish isn’t defined by what happened in the game. Maybe not, but Bryan McCann handled punt return duties the rest of the game.
Actions speak louder than words, it says here. And Parrish just went from being a lock to a potential casualty when the Raiders trim their roster to 53 on Friday.
If Parrish goes, McCann jumps to the head of the line, perhaps on kick and punt returns, at least as long as Ford and Moore aren’t healthy enough to handle those roles, respectively.

— Rookie Christo Bilukidi started at defensive tackle and played almost the entire game. Sure, Kelly and Seymour weren’t playing, but this spoke more to the Raiders seeing how Bilukidi would hold up against the Seahawks starters, as well as through extensive playing time.
Bilukidi didn’t disappoint, though he struggled on a few plays. He likely sewed up a roster spot with his performance.

— Rookie linebacker Nathan Stupar recorded 11 tackles in his best showing through four games. That might be enough to vault him from practice-squad candidate to a member of the 53-man roster.

— Second-year quarterback Terrelle Pryor was unable to build upon his breakout game last Saturday night.
It wasn’t for lack of effort on Pryor’s part. He completed 6 of 9 passes for 55 yards and a respectable 83.1 passer rating. However, he was under fire almost every play, with the backup linemen powerless against the Seahawks defensive surge.

— The Raiders fared pretty well in terms of penalties once again. This time, they committed six for 50 yards, which are figures Allen can live with when compared to the league-leading figures from last season’s team.

— Wide receiver Eddie McGee caught three passes for 36 yards. Not eye-opening figures, but in light of Parrish’s abysmal showing, it might be enough to warrant the Raiders keeping McGee ahead of Parrish.
McGee was fresh from a game in which he slipped twice on passes thrown his way and had a third pass knocked out of his hands and turned into an interception.
It might be too little, too late for McGee, but he at least has to feel better about his chances now than he did five nights ago.

— Allen praised rookie Rod Streater for his hustle in chasing down a Cardinals defender at the end of an interception Aug. 17. Allen said he hoped others were watching and would follow suit.
Well, perhaps fellow rookie Brandon Carswell missed that play, for he just stood there when a Seahawks defender intercepted a pass thrown for him Thursday night.
Fortunately for Carswell, the review of the play revealed that Carswell touched the defender as he was falling to the ground after making the interception. Still, Allen no doubt isn’t going to be pleased with Carswell not switching from a receiver to a defender in a second’s notice.


Steve Corkran

  • Aaron Wilson ‏@RavensInsider
    Raiders cut Derek Carrier, per a league source.
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    First cut is in.

  • Lowdown_in_Beijing


    Ganz und gar Richtig…

    Der ist die einzige Person das weiß wie schlecht die Chinesen sind…

  • Intrepid

    Raiders for life Says: Buck Love and the Humperheads./////haven’t seen them but bust out laughing when I saw the name many years ago. We do the Sierra Nevada more often,but the best parts are Eastern access so drive time about the same. We’re thinking of hitting evolution from the west side though, that’s down in your neighborhood. Anyway, ere’s the photo link. Check out my silver and black raider llama kickin’ it in the meadow.Jedidiah. https://picasaweb.google.com/purvisman/DropBox?authkey=Gv1sRgCNraxaCqotH7VA#slideshow/5777072574040541986

  • Intrepid:

    Your weight = your mass X gravity.

  • Marks hair

    Theyre still trying to figure gravity… something about the god particle..

  • Intrepid

    Raider O Says:
    August 31st, 2012 at 3:10 pm


    Your weight = your mass X gravity.
    ///////What, you saw my picture?

  • Marks Hair Says:
    August 31st, 2012 at 3:11 pm
    Theyre still trying to figure gravity… something about the god particle..


    Some fundies don’t believe in gravity, either…

  • ghostraiders

    We better keep Lee.. that guy deserves a spot on the 53..

  • realtruraider

    DVD and Lee are safe I believe

  • Intrepid

    Seriously,that would be mass x theory of gravity. Haven’t found any gravitons, yet. Marks hairs comment hinting at the complexity. Don’t get me started.

  • ghostraiders

    Carrier being is no surprise..im interested too see dl cuts and wr cuts..

  • LOL llama man.

  • Marks hair

    Lee is out slot cb.

  • Glad Debo wasn’t around when somebody posted a fake alert about JaMarcus being signed a few hundred posts back. His mom would been scrubbing the dude’s “genetic material” off the walls for weeks.

  • Intrepid

    RaiderDuck Says: Some fundies don’t believe in gravity, either…////Makes you wish they’d just float away.

  • Realtruraider Says:
    August 31st, 2012 at 3:15 pm
    DVD and Lee are safe I believe


    Lee, yes. DVD…maybe.

  • ghostraiders

    Dvd i think is on the fence.. i like chekwas chances more..

  • Marks Hair Says:
    August 31st, 2012 at 3:16 pm
    Lee is our slot cb.


    Either him or Huff would take that role.

  • Marks hair

    Is our slot cb… lee’s stayin

  • I’ve also been scanning the Panthers’ wire. If Murphy’s still on their roster after 6PM, the pick is ours.

  • ghostraiders

    Dvd is great at shadowing a wr downfield but the guy does not finish.. great Bility to defend but always gets burned ..

  • ghostraiders

    Lee is a strong st player.. hope he stays

  • Marks hair

    Somebody needs to show tp what a blitz is.. he didnt read one. They blitzed him over and over too..

  • Intrepid Says:
    August 31st, 2012 at 3:15 pm
    Seriously,that would be mass x theory of gravity. Haven’t found any gravitons, yet. Marks hairs comment hinting at the complexity. Don’t get me started.

    Dude….. Stop it! It’s a fact. Not a theory. There are plenty of evidence to support it.
    Your weight, that force that pulls you down when you jump, or do you think it’s a magical hand that NASA is trying to avoid when going to space.

  • realtruraider

    I don’t see them giving up on DVD, from all reports he looked damn good in training camp and showed up last night, plus after he made a couple plays he didn’t play much more unlike Checkwa. I just feel it would be hard for them to cut DVD because they have seen his potential. Checkwa on the other hand didn’t have a good camp and the last two games looked horrible

  • I should have said overcome instead of avoid, but you get the msg.

  • Marks hair

    Im not saying gravity isnt real. Just saying scientists are still trying to figure it out..

  • The offense has to be able to run the “Bells and whistles” plays of Knapp’s playbook, better than the vanilla garbage they couldn’t execute very well thus far…Or this could get ugly. Remember the nightmare of the Knapp/Culpepper/McCown era?

    I do like what I’ve seen of the Defense so far..

    FIRE the ST coach, NOW!

    Re-sign Rock Cartwright asap Chubby…….

  • 504 Raider

    575.mcfadden20. Says:
    August 31st, 2012 at 12:34 pm
    Nicholas-Jean Baptiste from LSU?


    Nah, i think you got your Hatians mixed up. LSU guy is Ricky Jean-Francois

  • Raiders for life


    Thanks for the link. Great pics. Beautiful country.

    Evolution Valley eh? Yep, the upper San Juaquin river feeds Florence lake. I take my family camping there every year and camp out at Jack azz meadows.

    My friend made the trek into Evolution from Florence lake a few years ago. He wouldn’t shut the fck up about it. He loved it.

    Anyways good to know you.

  • Intrepid, are you purvisman?

  • Twocents

    Science is all theory. Theories change all the time. As far as what gravity really is, I think the electrical universe guys are closer to the truth than the current theories.

  • “Science is all theory”
    “Gravity is a theory”

    That’s exactly why I’m sending my kid to a private school, and I will continue homeschooling her.
    You People…..

  • Twocents

    Raider O, you are confusing the effect of gravity with the theory of what it really is. If you have some spare time, pick up a copy of The Electric Universe by Thornhill and Talbott. Fascinating stuff.

  • raiderzmaverick

    Welcome to the Bread & Breakfast #2 offense with your coach Knapp.

    Luckily we have damned good talent all around that even a crappy scheme not catering to any of their strengths, they’ll still manage to make plays and not have us at the bottom of the league. But without a strong running game his offenses don’t move AT ALL.

    Really, 5 first downs all game? I know it’s not with starters, but they weren’t playing their starters either.

  • There is no such thing as “real”. We are all creations of super advanced society. We only exist in computer generated simulation. Our lives are no more real than the characters in Grand Theft Auto. Some 13 year old kid is dictating our lives in between bouts of whacking off.

  • raiderzmaverick

    Compare, from walking in off the couch, no time to learn a playbook, no training camps or organized activities or offseason time to throw with the receivers to get timing down, last year Palmer looked comfortable pretty quickly.

    This year so far…
    “In 17 preseason possessions, Carson Palmer led the Raiders to one touchdown.
    Palmer’s adjustment to new OC Greg Knapp’s offense has been rocky. In four preseason games, he went 33-of-56 (58.9 percent) for 321 yards with four interceptions and one touchdown.”
    And, weapons like Reece are being entirely unused.

  • raiderzmaverick

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    August 31st, 2012 at 6:38 am

    Knapp has OC’D a top 5 offense (top 3 actually) more recently than the Raiders have made the playoffs.

    We will score more points in 2012 than 2011.
    Knapp (like the Raiders were the past decade) are sticking to the past. What worked for him in the 1990’s won’t work in today’s passing league.

  • Marks hair

    Do you know how mass works or why it exists? What holds atoms together at all? Figure that out. Then you can really explain gravity.

  • realtruraider

    Dark Matter bro, but what is dark matter?

  • Twocents Says:
    August 31st, 2012 at 3:41 pm
    Raider O, you are confusing the effect of gravity with the theory of what it really is. If you have some spare time, pick up a copy of The Electric Universe by Thornhill and Talbott. Fascinating stuff.

    I’m familiar with the theory, and I do appreciate theories, but theories are just opinions till they can be proven with evidence.

  • Raider Dawg

    Evangelical Scientists Refute Gravity With New ‘Intelligent Falling’ Theory


    Man, I love The Onion.

  • DutchRaider77

    OMG, Derek Hagan released! The end is near! Just pulling your chain…

  • burn_209

    And again I repeat, Lienart is our #3. He will be the best #3 in the entire league, hands down.

    Since people even keep track of crap like that……. What is it with you people here.

  • EMRaiders

    For gravity to exist, there needs to be mass. Higgs Boson particle is supposedly what gives mass to all objects, so it could have a big influence on gravity, yet what, or how much is not known. It used to be believed that the rotation of the earth is what caused gravity to exist, but that theory has come into question recently.

    The only thing absolutely known and certain about gravity is that it exists. But how it actually works and what it is exactly is still being studied.

    Einstein stated that when mass reached the speed of light, and doubled it, it would transform into energy. what actually happens at this point and after is not known because, well, we haven’t been able to conduct those experiments as of yet. At least that I know of. We have thrown atoms around and stuff, but not actually done it with let’s say an apple, pencil, or living thing. We are getting close though.

    Some believe time travel could be achieved at that point, but really, no one really knows yet.

    Black holes have huge gravity because of their huge mass. They take in whatever crosses their path, and absorb the mass of such objects, even light. So just imagine how strong the gravity is when light itself, going as fast as it does, cannot even escape it’s pull. Pretty amazing huh? Which is why some quantum physics scientists believe that black holes could be like worm holes in the universe, a form of time travel, if you will.

    And why the black hole at the O. is as amazing as it is…lol Nothing escapes it! 🙂

  • DutchRaider77

    Mario Henderson released by the Chargers…


    wass brackin’ my raider nation brehs?

  • realtruraider

    Steve Corkran‏@CorkOnTheNFL

    Bills reportedly cut veteran WR Derek Hagan. Wouldn’t be a bad guy for the #Raiders to bring back, and actually use this time.

    LOL, Cork loved this guy as did many on this blog.

  • Hagan would be a good #6 guy for sure.

  • JB

    Has Rock Cartwright been signed yet? If not, why not?