McClain says he’s not worried about possible suspension
By Steve Corkran
Monday, September 3rd, 2012 at 1:58 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Whether Raiders middle linebacker Rolando McClain gets suspended for his offseason conviction on four misdemeanors from a gun-related incident last season is in the hands of NFL commissioner Roger Goodell.
Raiders coach Dennis Allen and general manager Reggie McKenzie said they are proceeding in a business-as-usual fashion until told otherwise. McClain sounds as if he isn’t worried about the issue.
“No, I don’t think I’ve ever had a talk of anything about a suspension,” McClain said Monday. “I haven’t heard it. I guess that’s all speculation.”
As for the potential of a suspension weighing on him, McClain said he isn’t fazed.
“It’s football,” McClain said. “I get paid to play football.”
For the record, Allen and McKenzie said they there’s a plan in place for the Raiders to move forward without McClain if the need arises.
This past May a Decatur, Ala., municipal court judge found McClain guilty of third-degree assault, menacing, reckless endangerment and illegal discharge of a firearm and sentenced him to 180 days in jail. McClain appealed the ruling.
Next up is a jury trial in Morgan County, which likely wouldn’t take place until at least six months after an arraignment. Even so, Goodell isn’t bound to that timetable.
McClain underwent stem-cell treatment for nagging injuries in the offseason. The treatments must have worked, for McClain said he feels good entering the regular season.
As for the defense, McClain said he likes the way things are run under first-year defensive coordinator Jason Tarver, where the Raiders aren’t as predictable as they were in recent seasons and everyone has a chance to make plays.
McClain also is growing more accustomed to being the vocal leader that Allen and Tarver asked him to be during the offseason.
“I was a pretty good leader at Alabama in college,” McClain said. “It’s different here. It’s just different. You’re not dealing with guys your own age. You’re dealing with grown men. Being a leader is just not about yelling but understanding guys that you’re working with. Different people respond to different things in different ways. It’s figuring out your teammates and how they respond to things to get them to work. It’s still a process.”
– Recently signd offensive tackle Willie Smith started three games for the Washington Redskins last season. The Raiders were thrilled by the prospect of having a promising offensive lineman fall into their laps after the Redskins waived Smith Friday.
“Athletic, long arms, comes from the same type of system, so the learning curve shouldn’t be that difficult,” Allen said. “He’s really an athletic talent at the tackle position.”
Smith isn’t shy about echoing that sentiment.
“I was definitely shocked that they let me go,” Smith said. “It was a huge shock to me. But I was like, ‘Hey, I know somebody else is going to pick me up because I know I was a great player.’ I did some good things last year, and I improved this year. I’m just ready to go out there and keep getting better and let these guys know they got a good player in me.”
Part of Smith’s confidence stems from starting games last season in which he was assigned to block Jason Pierre-Paul, Trent Cole and Jared Allen.
Sure, each of those players recorded a sack in those games, but Smith feels as if he faed pretty well, all things considered.
“Every day you go in practice against Pro Bowl caliber guys,” Smith said. “I was going against (Brian) Orakpo and Ryan Kerrigan, and then you get in the game situations and you get to actually go against Jason Pierre-Paul and Jared Allen, it lets you know that, ‘Hey, I can do this. I’m good enough to go out there and play.’ So it was good for my confidence and allowed me to realize that I could go out there.”
– Allen said Phillip is in line to return punts in the opener if Denarius Moore and Jacoby Ford aren’t healthy enough to play.
Returning punts isn’t anything new to Adams. He handled that role in college and he has done so at times during his NFL career, as well.
Allen was quick to point out an 83-yard punt return for a touchdown that Adams had against the Raiders in an exhibition game in 2010.
“I like getting back there and just being by myself,” Adams said.
Adams also plays cornerback and special teams.
– The six primary cornerbacks that received playing time for the Raiders in 2011 no longer are on the 53-man roster — Stanford Routt, Chris Johnson, DeMarcus Van Dyke, Chimdi Chekwa, Joe Porter and Lito Sheppard. Chekwa is on the Raiders practice squad.
In their place, the Raiders signed Ron Bartell, Shawntae Spencer, Adams, Joselio Hanson, Pat Lee and Coye Francies.
“As things played out throughout OTAs, minicamp and in training camp, we felt like that was a position that we needed to try to upgrade,” Allen said, “and we felt like with the players that we brought in here that it helps us as a team to be better.”
Bartell said it’s going to take time for the newcomers to mesh. Even so, he isn’t overly concerned.
“We’re pretty much set for starters,” Bartell said of he and Spencer locked in as the replacments for Routt and Johnson. “In terms of that, we’re fine. It’s just getting guys brought up to speed. If someone goes down, then you could see some issues.”
Allen isn’t worried about Hanson having only a week to learn a new system. The Raiders signed him this morning at the same time they waived Van Dyke.
“He’s smart,” Allen said. “We’ve spent some time with him already, talking over the defensive scheme and the things that we would ask him to do and he seemed to grasp it pretty quickly. So, I would anticipate he would have a pretty quick learning curve.”
Pretty quick? How’s this for a quick learner?
“I feel like in the next couple of days I’ll get it down,” Hanson said. “I’ve seen basically every (defensive scheme). I went over the whole playbook already, so it’s just now about all about studying and reiterating it to myself. It’s the same defense, a 4-3 defense, it’s just different names, different plays, but once I get that down I’ll be ready to go.”
– Moore spent time running Saturday and Sunday, Allen said. That gives Allen more reason to believe that Moore will return from a hamstring injury in time for the opener a week from today.
“He’s had a couple of good days back-to-back, so I’m encouraged by that,” Allen said.
As for wide receiver Jacoby Ford, he still hasn’t been cleared to run. Even so, Ford is making progress and has a chance to play against the Chargers, as well.
– Wide receiver Juron Criner practiced Monday, though with a noticeable limp as a result of an ankle injury.
“I don’t really think it’s a big deal,” Allen said. “He was able to get out and run around pretty well yesterday. He’s a little bit more sore today. It’s a long time until Monday night, so we’ll be fine there.”
– Center Stefen Wisniewski was limited in practice Monday. Allen said he expects Wisniewski to be at full strength for Thursday’s practice, when things crank up to full speed in advance of the Chargers game.
Wisniewski missed every practice, as well as three exhibition games, since he suffered a calf injury against the Dallas Cowboys on Aug. 13.
Alex Parsons worked with the first-team offense and Colin Miller with th second-team during the media-window access period.
– It’s conceivable that the Raiders will start two rookies against the Chargers — weak-side linebacker Miles Burris and wide receiver Rod Streater.
Burris is a lock to start. Streater is expected to start opposite Darrius Heyward-Bey if Moore and Ford can’t go.
Allen said he is comfortable with Burris starting, even though there are sure to be some ups and downs in the early going as Burris adjusts to the NFL.
“He’s made some progress,” Allen said. “He’s an athletic guy. He runs really well. He’s tough, physical. He’s still going to be a work in progress. He still has to get better from the mental aspect of the game just like all rookies do. Will there be growing pains? Yeah there will be some growing pains. But I feel good about where he’s at right now.”
McClain said he and others will be there to help Burris through the growing pains.
“There’s not a lot of pressure on him. You got two veteran guys beside you, me and Philip. So, I just try to tell him to relax. He gets excited. He’s a very energized guy, and we love him. The hardest thing is, just tell him to calm down. He always wants to make his plays. He has to be calm. He’s a great young guy. I’m excited to see him play.”
– Lest you think the Raiders are set at running back, consider a report from the Newark-Star (N.J.) Ledger that says the Raiders and Seattle Seahawks also put in waiver claims on former Giants running back D.J. Ware, who went to the Buccaneers because of a higher priority in terms of waiver claims.
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September 3rd, 2012 at 1:58 pm
September 3rd, 2012 at 2:00 pm
– Allen said Phillip is in line to return punts in the opener if Denarius Moore and Jacoby Ford aren’t healthy enough to play.
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Just say no to Denarius returning punts please.
September 3rd, 2012 at 2:00 pm
New post fellas.
September 3rd, 2012 at 2:02 pm
– Moore spent time running Saturday and Sunday, Allen said. That gives Allen more reason to believe that Moore will return from a hamstring injury in time for the opener a week from today.
“He’s had a couple of good days back-to-back, so I’m encouraged by that,” Allen said.
As for wide receiver Jacoby Ford, he still hasn’t been cleared to run. Even so, Ford is making progress and has a chance to play against the Chargers, as well.
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So why put Moore in jepordy by returning punts? He’s a legit #1.
September 3rd, 2012 at 2:02 pm
Jaquars game from 2010, Darren’s run has 3 of the 5 lineman diving at knees in a flawless ZBS execution.
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d81cd70bc/GameDay-Raiders-vs-Jaguars-highlights
September 3rd, 2012 at 2:02 pm
DVD is a straight up NERD
I rocked better coverage the last time I 69ed a Mexican beach volleyball player
You KNOW I still gots some Coppertone bronzing cream up my nose, holla
Speaking of my hot upcoming rap album Wrecks N Effect, I’ve been tracking a new jam in my bathroom all afternoon
Will drop a few epic lyrics after I finish making tinkle in the potty
COMPTON IN THE HIZZY
September 3rd, 2012 at 2:07 pm
Phil Adams at PR?
Hmmm… who is KR?
September 3rd, 2012 at 2:09 pm
backstageatapuppetshow Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 1:50 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 1:46 pm
backstageatapuppetshow Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 1:35 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 1:34 pm
The Raiders made a “strategic” decision to go to the WCO and ZBS. If Carson Palmer and company can’t execute it, they will be replaced next year.
The coaches knew who was on the roster and made a decision for the scheme based on what they think is best.
Players have to execute
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Wrong….
If Knapp cannot make it work than he will be gone!
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Reggie, DA and Knapp did not trade for Palmer. I assure you those three will outlast Palmer IF, and only IF things don’t work out.
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Nope…..Knapp first 2 go….if this Offense isn’t top 10…..
WRITE THAT DOWN!
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Backstage,
If Palmer was 27 or 28, then maybe so. But if Carson can’t execute Knapp’s offense this year, I doubt the Raiders stick with a 33/34 yr old QB another year hoping for the upside.
Reggie and company will draft their own QB. Happens all the time.
September 3rd, 2012 at 2:12 pm
I wasnt all that worried about Moore & Ford missing the SD game … until now
Criner is hurt and BigMac only kept 5 WR’s !
what the heck happens if King Darrius or Rod Sweeter get “nicked” ???
Reece & Ausberry to WR, lol
September 3rd, 2012 at 2:12 pm
“Athletic, long arms, comes from the same type of system, so the learning curve shouldn’t be that difficult,” Allen said. “He’s really an athletic talent at the tackle position.”
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“Comes from the same system” that means WCO. The Raiders are going to draft players that fit their system. That means that the holdovers from last year have to prove that they can excel in Knapp’s system….not if Knapp can excel with these players.
September 3rd, 2012 at 2:15 pm
Rockstar,
D. Moore needs to be on the field for S.D. Otherwise, I think we are going to be dealing with him in and out of the lineup all year.
September 3rd, 2012 at 2:17 pm
Rolando sounds like a pretty sharp guy who gets it.
Being a leader is challenging, and he is stepping up and learning the nuances of doing so.
Slo-Mania!!!
September 3rd, 2012 at 2:20 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 2:17 pm
Rolando sounds like a pretty sharp guy who gets it.
Being a leader is challenging, and he is stepping up and learning the nuances of doing so.
Slo-Mania!!!
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He showed some insight which is encouraging.
We need a productive BETTER Romac.
September 3rd, 2012 at 2:21 pm
SnB,
DMo17 is an asset, unlike Ford.
I’d rather take my time with him and get him right for the long haul than have him get re-injured to something more severe, or something that would be nagging throughout the entire season
September 3rd, 2012 at 2:22 pm
Yo, Dwight Howard is hittin’ up Kareem for one-on-one Hall of Fame lessons
That’s hella wizzle
Yo, I heard Dwight’s new South Bay hot tub is a as big as the back patio at Spearmint Rhino
Homie best represent in some Drakkar Noir
MOET CHANDON ALL NIGHT LONG
September 3rd, 2012 at 2:23 pm
Exactly.. the only McClain I care about is the one who plays 60 minutes on Sundays
offseason, preseason, personal life = dont matter to RRS
Last 2 years he sucked, PERIOD
Let’s hope 2012 is his coming out party and he takes the league by storm. I am rooting for him
September 3rd, 2012 at 2:23 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 2:17 pm
Rolando sounds like a pretty sharp guy who gets it.
Being a leader is challenging, and he is stepping up and learning the nuances of doing so.
Slo-Mania!!!
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Let’s see how he does on the field. Against Dall-ass this preseason he played well for the few plays he was out there. Against Zona he was awful. Again.
September 3rd, 2012 at 2:23 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 2:21 pm
SnB,
DMo17 is an asset, unlike Ford.
I’d rather take my time with him and get him right for the long haul than have him get re-injured to something more severe, or something that would be nagging throughout the entire season
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It’s a marathon.
Moore has to be 100% on the hammy to play in September.
In January it’s a different story.
September 3rd, 2012 at 2:30 pm
Friend of mine (Huge Canes fan) works at the University of Miami as a grounds crew/maintenance employee and I asked him a few days after we drafted DVD;
Raiders got Demarcus Van Dyke, you think he’ll be good?
Friend-”I haven’t heard of him, did he start while he was here”?
Guess that sums up how we’ll look back at his career as a Raider.
September 3rd, 2012 at 2:31 pm
J charles is such an azz
September 3rd, 2012 at 2:33 pm
Why the hell would Ford start ahead of Sreater even if he was healthy? That dude should be the 4th WR at best.
September 3rd, 2012 at 2:33 pm
#1 thing Reggie said was he was going to upgrade the secondary. Mission accomplished. Next up, the LB crew.
September 3rd, 2012 at 2:34 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 2:33 pm
Why the hell would Ford start ahead of Sreater even if he was healthy? That dude should be the 4th WR at best.
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Experience. Speed. Versatility.
September 3rd, 2012 at 2:35 pm
Why the hell would Ford start ahead of Sreater even if he was healthy? That dude should be the 4th WR at best.
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@Debo
correct. Ford = kick returner and WR to run reverses with
nothing more. re-sign JLH!
September 3rd, 2012 at 2:35 pm
Whatever it is, it seems that McClain still doesn’t get the severity of his actions. What does he say about remorse, or some kind of sign that says he is sorry for what he brought upon the team and fans. Can’t take the smirk out of his mug, yet.
Hopefully, he’ll do what he says and finally shows up to play, because he has been a major bust so far in his career. I hope RegMac and Allen have kept him on a short leash.
September 3rd, 2012 at 2:35 pm
Marks Hair Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 2:31 pm
J charles is such an azz
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He got a taste of reality.
Apparently it was bitter.
September 3rd, 2012 at 2:36 pm
Mclain is an idiot.
September 3rd, 2012 at 2:37 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 2:34 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 2:33 pm
Why the hell would Ford start ahead of Sreater even if he was healthy? That dude should be the 4th WR at best.
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Experience. Speed. Versatility.
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Ford has to demonstrate.
He appears to be a backslider.
Hope I’m wrong.
September 3rd, 2012 at 2:39 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 2:09 pm
backstageatapuppetshow Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 1:50 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 1:46 pm
backstageatapuppetshow Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 1:35 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 1:34 pm
The Raiders made a “strategic” decision to go to the WCO and ZBS. If Carson Palmer and company can’t execute it, they will be replaced next year.
The coaches knew who was on the roster and made a decision for the scheme based on what they think is best.
Players have to execute
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Wrong….
If Knapp cannot make it work than he will be gone!
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Reggie, DA and Knapp did not trade for Palmer. I assure you those three will outlast Palmer IF, and only IF things don’t work out.
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Nope…..Knapp first 2 go….if this Offense isn’t top 10…..
WRITE THAT DOWN!
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Backstage,
If Palmer was 27 or 28, then maybe so. But if Carson can’t execute Knapp’s offense this year, I doubt the Raiders stick with a 33/34 yr old QB another year hoping for the upside.
Reggie and company will draft their own QB. Happens all the time.
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Thanks for the cut and paste on two different threads
I understand it happens all the time….and if a good QB is available in the draft next year then why not….
However, Knapp and the QB situation do not go hand in hand…
Carson Palmer is a good QB. He is an intelligent QB. I
Knapp has arguably the best RB in the entire NFL. If McFadden stays healthy and we are not a top 10 Offense then Knapp has to go….and he will…although I think he has a few surprises this year…he was extremely vanilla in pre season…more so than usual.
I believe Carson is the QB next season regardless if Knapp is here or not….regardless if we draft one or not….
September 3rd, 2012 at 2:39 pm
Kirk Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 2:36 pm
Mclain is an idiot.
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Does that mean incapable of growth from experience?
Or does it mean you don’t like Him. lol
September 3rd, 2012 at 2:41 pm
I believe Carson is the QB next season regardless if Knapp is here or not….regardless if we draft one or not….
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Both will be here next year, barring a Palmer career ending injury.
September 3rd, 2012 at 2:43 pm
Slowlando’s not worried. Good for him!
September 3rd, 2012 at 2:44 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 2:12 pm
“Athletic, long arms, comes from the same type of system, so the learning curve shouldn’t be that difficult,” Allen said. “He’s really an athletic talent at the tackle position.”
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“Comes from the same system” that means WCO. The Raiders are going to draft players that fit their system. That means that the holdovers from last year have to prove that they can excel in Knapp’s system….not if Knapp can excel with these players.
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It isn’t Knapp’s System…
If you are correct in your statement than we are truly in trouble….
Question:
Is it easier to get 20+ men to fit a “ZBS” system or is it easier to find a system which fits the 20+ men?
Answer:
It is easier to find a system to fit 20+ men.
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Knapp doesn’t have the power you describe….
September 3rd, 2012 at 2:49 pm
This team has already (last season) shown it can have success with a man blocking scheme…
With the addition of the ZBS, we should improve in our attack this season if Knapp adjusts…which I believe, he will….
We ran Toss, Draw, ISO, and Counter in the Pre Season (all man blocking concepts)….which means we also have Power and hopefully trap mixed in at some point….
We are going to run it all…trust me….
September 3rd, 2012 at 2:51 pm
The only issue I have is the ZBS in short yardage and on the goal line….
And, if Knapp wanted to work on weaknesses….he would have called those plays in pre season so as to get in some much needed work against live bullets….
Mistakes in games which do not count can be productive…
September 3rd, 2012 at 2:51 pm
Backstage,
To be clear, I am NOT a fan of the WCO. I never cared for it much, nor do I think it takes advantage of Carson Palmer’s skills.
Carson proved last year he can get this offense vertical and make big plays with the passing game. That is teh offense I want to see.
But we don’t get what we want. Hopefully Carson plays at a high standard with the dink and dunk offense we are going deploy. I also agree that DMAC should balance things out.
However, I stand by my words that Knapp is here for the long-term….at the least, he will get more chances to fail than those on the roster.
September 3rd, 2012 at 2:54 pm
Ford=#5 WR when everyone is healthy and that isn’t a bad thing.
September 3rd, 2012 at 2:54 pm
Ya’ll need to refrain from picking on Knapp….he has worked on weaknesses in pre season….
He wasn’t concerned with winning….and he shouldn’t be….he wanted to work on specific concepts…
The man called 6 run plays in a row against Seattle for a reason…
September 3rd, 2012 at 2:56 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 2:51 pm
Backstage,
To be clear, I am NOT a fan of the WCO. I never cared for it much, nor do I think it takes advantage of Carson Palmer’s skills.
Carson proved last year he can get this offense vertical and make big plays with the passing game. That is teh offense I want to see.
But we don’t get what we want. Hopefully Carson plays at a high standard with the dink and dunk offense we are going deploy. I also agree that DMAC should balance things out.
However, I stand by my words that Knapp is here for the long-term….at the least, he will get more chances to fail than those on the roster.
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Well Said.
I share your concerns regarding Palmer and his ability in this scheme.
However, maybe you and I are wrong. Carson is a smart guy, and he likes the scheme, so I have to have faith in him and in his ability to know what best suits him.
Just because he hasn’t succeeded in this scheme up to this point is no reason to think he cannot execute it….he hasn’t failed yet at it either….
September 3rd, 2012 at 2:59 pm
Backstageatapuppetshow Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 2:54 pm
Ya’ll need to refrain from picking on Knapp….he has worked on weaknesses in pre season….
He wasn’t concerned with winning….and he shouldn’t be….he wanted to work on specific concepts…
The man called 6 run plays in a row against Seattle for a reason…
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All vanilla, without lil Wiz at center, without Moore, and with very limited Ford.
I like our #1’s on O for 4 qtrs.
September 3rd, 2012 at 3:00 pm
actor Michael Clarke Duncan has died
wow!!
September 3rd, 2012 at 3:04 pm
I can’t wait to see Taiwan get some action with the 1s in real action.He and McFadden will be one heck of a duo for opposing teams to defense.
September 3rd, 2012 at 3:05 pm
Time to find a rb
September 3rd, 2012 at 3:07 pm
Bad ticker
September 3rd, 2012 at 3:07 pm
Lefty12 Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 3:04 pm
I can’t wait to see Taiwan get some action with the 1s in real action.He and McFadden will be one heck of a duo for opposing teams to defense.
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The O line needs to get it blocked and when they do, look out.
Jones will need a bit more space as a strong reaching arm seems to knock him off stride.
September 3rd, 2012 at 3:08 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 2:33 pm
#1 thing Reggie said was he was going to upgrade the secondary. Mission accomplished. Next up, the LB crew.
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Any changes seem like an upgrade compared to routt and company last year but how much of an upgrade remains to be seen.. Our #1 corner played 1 game in 2011 and is coming of 2 neck surgeries, he also hasnt had an interception since 2008. Spencer, has been in the league for 9 years mostly a 3rd down corner and hasnt had more than 4 ints ever. our slot corner just got signed 7 days before the opener and was ranked toward the bottom of the league in slot defenders. yet cbs was a very deep position with respect to free agency this year. i’m looking forward to see how this group does, it will define reggie as a genius or possibly someone whose missed the boat. so happy i wont be watching cj37 strut around anymore though.
September 3rd, 2012 at 3:12 pm
it will define reggie as a genius or possibly someone whose missed the boat. so happy i wont be watching cj37 strut around anymore though.
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It will not define him as either a genius or missing the boat….
September 3rd, 2012 at 3:14 pm
Any changes seem like an upgrade compared to routt and company last year but how much of an upgrade remains to be seen.
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Bartells played VERY well in the preseason. He always has been a solid performer. So we upgraded there. Are Johnson and Lito Sheppard even in the league anymore? Even if some sucker took them, we upgraded there. And our number three corner is most likely Pat Lee anyway, who has also played well. Throw in Adams and Francies and we are five or six deep in dependable players.
September 3rd, 2012 at 3:15 pm
Seeing Raiders struggle in goal-line makes me realise just how good Marcus Allen really was he could fly
September 3rd, 2012 at 3:16 pm
If he had drafted a Corner it would point to that end….but these decisions will not help us to define McKenzie in any way….
Point Blank..he is gambling on all of these guys….
I hope the Gamble Pays OFF…
Reggie was placed into a situation where he could have gambled with the guys he had or tried this approach….
September 3rd, 2012 at 3:17 pm
Lefty12 Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 3:04 pm
I can’t wait to see Taiwan get some action with the 1s in real action.He and McFadden will be one heck of a duo for opposing teams to defense.
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Agreed, Lefty.
September 3rd, 2012 at 3:19 pm
Obviously Reggie felt there was some talent in free agency in the DB position for an affordable price…
I for one am behind him….even though I was one of a few to call him out regarding this position just a few months ago….
September 3rd, 2012 at 3:20 pm
Well Said.
I share your concerns regarding Palmer and his ability in this scheme.
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I think you guys are a little mistaken on the “West Coast” scheme. Basically this is a run first, big run offense. So it boils more down to Dmac than Palmer. The big misconception about the west coast offense is the quote unquote dink and dunk aspect of it. Basically it is a run offense that once the safeties come up in support, you take deep shots. This was always the Walsh philosophy. Where people get messed up is if the big play is not there, THEN check down. But since most fans just see a Q check down they think that was the primary.
The other thing about the Kubiak version of this offense is Palmer is not in one place as a sitting duck. They are going to move him around, so the opponents Dline has no idea where he is going to be. Intriguing really….
September 3rd, 2012 at 3:20 pm
Just catching up on things and boy, the Reggieme wasn’t blowing smoke up our collective rears when they said they will look at all players for possible upgrades. Saw this coming for DVD. Writing was on the wall. Guy stunk like hot garbage in game situations.
September 3rd, 2012 at 3:21 pm
“– Lest you think the Raiders are set at running back, consider a report from the Newark-Star (N.J.) Ledger that says the Raiders and Seattle Seahawks also put in waiver claims on former Giants running back D.J. Ware, who went to the Buccaneers because of a higher priority in terms of waiver claims.”
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Higher priority?? What, they called dibbs?
September 3rd, 2012 at 3:24 pm
Oldschoolraider Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 3:21 pm
“– Lest you think the Raiders are set at running back, consider a report from the Newark-Star (N.J.) Ledger that says the Raiders and Seattle Seahawks also put in waiver claims on former Giants running back D.J. Ware, who went to the Buccaneers because of a higher priority in terms of waiver claims.”
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Higher priority?? What, they called dibbs?
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Worse record than us last year. Weaker teams get priority.
September 3rd, 2012 at 3:25 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 3:20 pm
Well Said.
I share your concerns regarding Palmer and his ability in this scheme.
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I think you guys are a little mistaken on the “West Coast” scheme. Basically this is a run first, big run offense. So it boils more down to Dmac than Palmer. The big misconception about the west coast offense is the quote unquote dink and dunk aspect of it. Basically it is a run offense that once the safeties come up in support, you take deep shots. This was always the Walsh philosophy. Where people get messed up is if the big play is not there, THEN check down. But since most fans just see a Q check down they think that was the primary.
The other thing about the Kubiak version of this offense is Palmer is not in one place as a sitting duck. They are going to move him around, so the opponents Dline has no idea where he is going to be. Intriguing really….
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I am not mistaken in any sense when it comes to ANY kind of Offense.
The rest of your post I agree with…
However, we have already incorporated some of last years scheme into this season…in the run game.
September 3rd, 2012 at 3:26 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 3:24 pm
Oldschoolraider Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 3:21 pm
“– Lest you think the Raiders are set at running back, consider a report from the Newark-Star (N.J.) Ledger that says the Raiders and Seattle Seahawks also put in waiver claims on former Giants running back D.J. Ware, who went to the Buccaneers because of a higher priority in terms of waiver claims.”
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Higher priority?? What, they called dibbs?
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Worse record than us last year. Weaker teams get priority.
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Thanks
September 3rd, 2012 at 3:28 pm
eymour Bush Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 3:14 pm
Any changes seem like an upgrade compared to routt and company last year but how much of an upgrade remains to be seen.
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Bartells played VERY well in the preseason. He always has been a solid performer. So we upgraded there. Are Johnson and Lito Sheppard even in the league anymore? Even if some sucker took them, we upgraded there. And our number three corner is most likely Pat Lee anyway, who has also played well. Throw in Adams and Francies and we are five or six deep in dependable players.
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and all i read for weeks was how great DVD played in camp..pre season means nothing. Bartells hasnt had an interception since 2008, i think he has to be considered a question mark big time, especially with his injuries. he might step up and be great, thats what we all hope. the best thing going for this group of cbs is that are following probably the worst group of corners in raiders history. The depth is questionable and DA even feels that way.
September 3rd, 2012 at 3:29 pm
Seymour Bush,
As long as Carson gets to use his arm on the intermediate and deep throws and the offense doesn’t take on that run, run, pass, punt look.
Lefty,
Agreed with Taiwan. He’s going to look good this year. Breakout player of the year.
September 3rd, 2012 at 3:33 pm
nyraider Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 3:28 pm
eymour Bush Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 3:14 pm
Any changes seem like an upgrade compared to routt and company last year but how much of an upgrade remains to be seen.
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Bartells played VERY well in the preseason. He always has been a solid performer. So we upgraded there. Are Johnson and Lito Sheppard even in the league anymore? Even if some sucker took them, we upgraded there. And our number three corner is most likely Pat Lee anyway, who has also played well. Throw in Adams and Francies and we are five or six deep in dependable players.
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and all i read for weeks was how great DVD played in camp..pre season means nothing. Bartells hasnt had an interception since 2008, i think he has to be considered a question mark big time, especially with his injuries. he might step up and be great, thats what we all hope. the best thing going for this group of cbs is that are following probably the worst group of corners in raiders history. The depth is questionable and DA even feels that way.
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I agree
September 3rd, 2012 at 3:36 pm
nyraider Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 3:28 pm
and all i read for weeks was how great DVD played in camp..pre season means nothing. Bartells hasnt had an interception since 2008, i think he has to be considered a question mark big time, especially with his injuries. he might step up and be great, thats what we all hope. the best thing going for this group of cbs is that are following probably the worst group of corners in raiders history. The depth is questionable and DA even feels that way.
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Manning has had four neck surgeries and he’s back out there. Bartells was the leader of the Rams secondary before he went out. Depth certainly is a question mark and Reggie went out and got Adams, Hanson, Francies, in the last week and put Chekwa on the practice squad. As I said mission accomplished.
September 3rd, 2012 at 3:38 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 3:29 pm
Seymour Bush,
As long as Carson gets to use his arm on the intermediate and deep throws and the offense doesn’t take on that run, run, pass, punt look.
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I think you are going to see a lot of that run, run, pass, run, run, run, look. Allen and Knapp are going to put the offense in the hands of the Oline and Dmac. Expect it.
September 3rd, 2012 at 3:41 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 3:36 pm
nyraider Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 3:28 pm
and all i read for weeks was how great DVD played in camp..pre season means nothing. Bartells hasnt had an interception since 2008, i think he has to be considered a question mark big time, especially with his injuries. he might step up and be great, thats what we all hope. the best thing going for this group of cbs is that are following probably the worst group of corners in raiders history. The depth is questionable and DA even feels that way.
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Manning has had four neck surgeries and he’s back out there. Bartells was the leader of the Rams secondary before he went out. Depth certainly is a question mark and Reggie went out and got Adams, Hanson, Francies, in the last week and put Chekwa on the practice squad. As I said mission accomplished.
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payton’s body of work and position is way different than a cb who hasnt had an int since 2008. i’m out , this is beyond reason..mission accomplished..lol
September 3rd, 2012 at 3:43 pm
“Carson proved last year he can get this offense vertical and make big plays with the passing game. That is teh offense I want to see.”
He also proved he still makes big mistakes like he did his last couple of years in Cinci. If he doesn’t fix his decision making and the offense struggles, he is no lock to be here next year, just because we’ve had a run on worse QBs. Our defense was our biggest weakness last year. Terrible turnovers don’t help them out at all. I AM STILL ROOTING FOR HIM TO SUCCEED.
September 3rd, 2012 at 3:53 pm
rediaR Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 3:43 pm
“Carson proved last year he can get this offense vertical and make big plays with the passing game. That is teh offense I want to see.”
He also proved he still makes big mistakes like he did his last couple of years in Cinci. If he doesn’t fix his decision making and the offense struggles, he is no lock to be here next year, just because we’ve had a run on worse QBs.
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I am pretty sure his contract would make it impossible to cut him next year, especially beings it would be almost as impossible to find an instant upgrade in the draft. Well, unless we have a top ten pick which I am sure nobody is expecting.
September 3rd, 2012 at 3:57 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 3:29 pm
Seymour Bush,
As long as Carson gets to use his arm on the intermediate and deep throws and the offense doesn’t take on that run, run, pass, punt look.
Lefty,
Agreed with Taiwan. He’s going to look good this year. Breakout player of the year.
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If true we are playoff bound for sure.
We need someone to spell McF. If he has to carry the rock 20 to 25 times a game we are screwed.
I simply don’t think his body is built to withstand it.
Think Wheatley spelling Kaufman.
September 3rd, 2012 at 4:07 pm
It would be nice to have thunder and lightning at RB, but with McFadden and Jones we have lighting and lightning. I do think Jones will be something special if he can stay healthy. Problem is we have three RB’s who all have a history of getting injured. I hope Goodson’s fumble problems are history. I wish we could find another Zack Crockett for short yardage. It is something though to be able to pull McFadden out of the game and put in somebody faster.
September 3rd, 2012 at 4:09 pm
I think we’ll call cooley on sunday..
September 3rd, 2012 at 4:13 pm
I am dumbfounded that we got our hands on Joselio Hanson….Philly is just ignorant…plain and simple….
September 3rd, 2012 at 4:13 pm
f@uck zbs power scheme=
http://www.nfl.com/videos/oakland-raiders/09000d5d82290583/RB-McFadden-70-yd-run-TD
September 3rd, 2012 at 4:15 pm
Backstageatapuppetshow Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 4:13 pm
I am dumbfounded that we got our hands on Joselio Hanson….Philly is just ignorant…plain and simple….
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why do you like this guy so much? enlighten me please.
September 3rd, 2012 at 4:18 pm
A GM is supposed to find guys that can fill a role….not necessarily be starters or key contributors.
Signings like Hanson, if it works out, are the types of picks that build your team.
September 3rd, 2012 at 4:18 pm
We need someone to spell McF. If he has to carry the rock 20 to 25 times a game we are screwed.
I simply don’t think his body is built to withstand it.
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are you kidding? go see his stats at Arkansas DMC can tote the rock 25 times easy.
September 3rd, 2012 at 4:20 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 4:15 pm
Backstageatapuppetshow Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 4:13 pm
I am dumbfounded that we got our hands on Joselio Hanson….Philly is just ignorant…plain and simple….
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why do you like this guy so much? enlighten me please.
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Hanson has probably been one of the top four or five nickle corners in the league for awhile. Another cap casualty that Reggie loves. He is over 30 and starting to slow down, but he has played well for a while. Played in all 16 games last year, with one start.
September 3rd, 2012 at 4:26 pm
First off, Hanson is a starter….
Just cause your stat sheet doesn’t say he started last year don’t mean jack chit. They will usually list the outside backers as starters…
Nickle Corners are some of the most important albeit un-noticed starting positions on the team.
When we play a team with a slot who can ball you’ll see what I mean….anyone remember what Welker did to us last year?
Playing San Diego twice, Denver twice , and New Orleans this year is reason enough for a strong Nickle….we have been relegated to having Huff as our Nickle…so this adds depth at the Safety Position.
Reggie just scored a starter a week before game 1.
This is the best move he has made thusfar IMO….
Great Work!….
And again, Philly is just ignorant!
September 3rd, 2012 at 4:28 pm
Love it!
Great Job Reggie McKenzie!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGdtVe75RL0&feature=g-all-u
September 3rd, 2012 at 4:33 pm
Backstageatapuppetshow Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 4:26 pm
First off, Hanson is a starter….
Just cause your stat sheet doesn’t say he started last year don’t mean jack chit. They will usually list the outside backers as starters…
Nickle Corners are some of the most important albeit un-noticed starting positions on the team.
When we play a team with a slot who can ball you’ll see what I mean….anyone remember what Welker did to us last year?
Playing San Diego twice, Denver twice , and New Orleans this year is reason enough for a strong Nickle….we have been relegated to having Huff as our Nickle…so this adds depth at the Safety Position.
Reggie just scored a starter a week before game 1.
This is the best move he has made thusfar IMO….
Great Work!….
And again, Philly is just ignorant!
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ok got backstage down as hanson supporter if he gets roasted I will roast you.
September 3rd, 2012 at 4:35 pm
Pat Lee is still our nickle corner folks, not Hanson
September 3rd, 2012 at 4:35 pm
LOL…you couldn’t roast me on my worst day my friend….but store it away if you need to….
September 3rd, 2012 at 4:37 pm
Pat Lee is not our nickle corner….LOL….maybe this week because Hanson hasn’t caught up on the playbook…but Lee isn’t close to as experienced as Hanson….
This is why Reggie made the move!
September 3rd, 2012 at 4:38 pm
Backstageatapuppetshow Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 4:35 pm
LOL…you couldn’t roast me on my worst day my friend….but store it away if you need to….
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hope you dont have to find out. Hey JFB says Pat Lee still starts over Hanson.
September 3rd, 2012 at 4:40 pm
You think Reggie cut a 3rd round pick the week before we play to sign a Nickle Corner who wasn’t going to start?
LOL. Think Again.
Read Up….
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1321370-joselio-hanson-improves-nickel-defense-adds-defensive-flexibility-in-oakland
Pat Lee…..LOL…you guys are funny!
Lee wasn’t going to start over Huff at Nickle either….
LOL
September 3rd, 2012 at 4:41 pm
Backstageatapuppetshow Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 4:37 pm
Pat Lee is not our nickle corner….LOL….maybe this week because Hanson hasn’t caught up on the playbook…but Lee isn’t close to as experienced as Hanson….
This is why Reggie made the move!
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Exactly. Look at what Reggie’s done. We’ve gone from having Chimdi Chekwa as our second-best corner (behind Routt) to our seventh-best corner. Neat, huh?
September 3rd, 2012 at 4:41 pm
At the age of one,
I was drinking Whiskey & Gin
At the age of two
I was eating the bottles it came in
September 3rd, 2012 at 4:42 pm
Gotta give Big reg props today….and I can….cause no one on this entire BLOG nit picked the man more than I have regarding the position….
September 3rd, 2012 at 4:42 pm
I think they will be in competition for the nickle slot spot, with each Lee and Hanson getting a crack at it.
They aren’t just going to hand it to Hanson.
September 3rd, 2012 at 4:43 pm
Hanson is your new starting Nickle back folks. Much needed too, great signing, but Reggie cut the wrong cb
September 3rd, 2012 at 4:43 pm
I Dont know either db well enough to give either credit. I’ve seen hanson a bit with the eagles and nothing jumps out at you same for Pat Lee.
September 3rd, 2012 at 4:43 pm
Bleacher Report??
Now that is a LOL!!!
September 3rd, 2012 at 4:45 pm
LOL….now they are going to compete for it…just 5 minutes ago you had him starting….
You have been weighed, measured, and found wanting!
September 3rd, 2012 at 4:46 pm
Yes, competition. Ever heard of it?
Today, Lee is the nickle corner.
Who eachs performs in games will dictate it from there.
September 3rd, 2012 at 4:46 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 4:43 pm
I Dont know either db well enough to give either credit. I’ve seen hanson a bit with the eagles and nothing jumps out at you same for Pat Lee.
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I don’t want any credit you have to give! I’d rather you disagree.
September 3rd, 2012 at 4:47 pm
hey but wait wasnt hanson a part of that debacle of a D in philly last year? dream team my ass.
September 3rd, 2012 at 4:47 pm
Either way, both Lee and Hanson are massively better than DVD.
Not sure what anyone ever saw in him, he sucked massively.
If we had a nickle for every time some blogster tried to tell me about his “fluid hips”…….
September 3rd, 2012 at 4:48 pm
JFB-
Lets agree to disagree….I’m not here to create enemies…
Lee will be the DIME corner on passing downs….
All in all, Hanson adds experience, depth, and intelligence at a position which desperately needed it.
September 3rd, 2012 at 4:49 pm
JFB- Just Fire Baby Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 4:47 pm
Either way, both Lee and Hanson are massively better than DVD.
Not sure what anyone ever saw in him, he sucked massively.
If we had a nickle for every time some blogster tried to tell me about his “fluid hips”…….
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Completely Agree
September 3rd, 2012 at 4:49 pm
I had an uncle, called Sudden Death,
Killed a dozen bad men from from the smell do his breath.
September 3rd, 2012 at 4:51 pm
All in all, Hanson adds experience, depth, and intelligence at a position which desperately needed it.
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Absolutely, and he will see the field in a week.
I was a bit critical of The Reggie for not drafting any DB’s, as I felt it was our biggest weakness heading into the season, but clearly the man has a plan and found a way to upgrade the position.
Turned a bleak situation into one with a lot of depth now.
September 3rd, 2012 at 4:51 pm
Backstageatapuppetshow Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 4:46 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 4:43 pm
I Dont know either db well enough to give either credit. I’ve seen hanson a bit with the eagles and nothing jumps out at you same for Pat Lee.
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I don’t want any credit you have to give! I’d rather you disagree.
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LOL My expertise is far superior than most and that includes so called experts dont go there puppet man.
September 3rd, 2012 at 4:54 pm
it’s kinda funny how coach d.a. and jason tarver describe how wht defensive philosophy and approach they are going to scheme ths year!”multiplicity to simplicity”meaning were going to put are players in plays tht best fit them in making plays…huff,tommy kelly,mike mitchell,phillip wheeler,etc.then on the other side of the ball”lets go take a knapp offense’’sounds and looks like there going to put there best players in the worst circumstances not only to be productive,but put them in the best way to make plays accordingly to there strenghts and abilitys???”oh boy”,looks like its going to be a waste of a year!!expect mass exodus on the offensive side of the ball just the the defense this year….
September 3rd, 2012 at 4:55 pm
hey but wait wasnt hanson a part of that debacle of a D in philly last year? dream team my ass.
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Actually there D got alot better once they put Hanson back in the slot. he wasn’t getting much playin time at first because they had the big three at corner and wanted all them on the field, but once they put Hanson back in at nickle they were much improved.
I have read reports tha Hanson has looked damn good in camp and preseason, The Eagles just went with youth in a 2nd rounder, but by all accounts Hanson out played him.
September 3rd, 2012 at 4:56 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 4:51 pm
All in all, Hanson adds experience, depth, and intelligence at a position which desperately needed it.
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Absolutely, and he will see the field in a week.
I was a bit critical of The Reggie for not drafting any DB’s, as I felt it was our biggest weakness heading into the season, but clearly the man has a plan and found a way to upgrade the position.
Turned a bleak situation into one with a lot of depth now.
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I said the same….
September 3rd, 2012 at 4:56 pm
Make no mistake, DVD’s ability to change direction fluidly is the thing that separates him from most DBs in this league period. Few other guys can flip their hips and track a receiver as well as DVD can.
The flaw in DVD’s game was everything else. Situational awareness, tackling, tracking the BALL and not just his man.
The physical skills were all there for DVD. But the mental skills were not. Can those mental skills be taught, and eventually developed? Sure. But any player who doesn’t have those is more of a liability on the field than players who have the mental aspect of the game down but not the prototypical physical makeup.
Bottom line is that DVD isn’t on the team anymore because the coaching staff simply couldn’t put him on the field without him being a liability. And BECAUSE it’s a thin position group, they couldn’t afford to keep a guy around anymore just because he might eventually be good.
September 3rd, 2012 at 4:59 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 4:51 pm
Backstageatapuppetshow Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 4:46 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 4:43 pm
I Dont know either db well enough to give either credit. I’ve seen hanson a bit with the eagles and nothing jumps out at you same for Pat Lee.
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I don’t want any credit you have to give! I’d rather you disagree.
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LOL My expertise is far superior than most and that includes so called experts dont go there puppet man.
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Glad to have you aboard then EastOakland….if we agreed with the so-called experts…we would both be wrong!
I believe this BLOG has much more power than many would like to admit!
September 3rd, 2012 at 5:00 pm
I ve swam acros Muddy Rivers, and ain’t never got wet
Mountains, have fell on me and I ain’t dead yet.
I’ve rode across the Oceans on the head of my dik
And ate 9 tons of catschit and ain’t never got sick
September 3rd, 2012 at 5:01 pm
LOL
September 3rd, 2012 at 5:01 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 4:56 pm
Make no mistake, DVD’s ability to change direction fluidly is the thing that separates him from most DBs in this league period. Few other guys can flip their hips and track a receiver as well as DVD can.
The flaw in DVD’s game was everything else. Situational awareness, tackling, tracking the BALL and not just his man.
The physical skills were all there for DVD. But the mental skills were not. Can those mental skills be taught, and eventually developed? Sure. But any player who doesn’t have those is more of a liability on the field than players who have the mental aspect of the game down but not the prototypical physical makeup.
Bottom line is that DVD isn’t on the team anymore because the coaching staff simply couldn’t put him on the field without him being a liability. And BECAUSE it’s a thin position group, they couldn’t afford to keep a guy around anymore just because he might eventually be good.
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agreed. if that guy learns how to track the ball in mid flight qbs will stop throwing to his side. DVD can flat out cover which is a dbs job right? kid just needs more seasoning one year isnt enough ask Aso21.
September 3rd, 2012 at 5:05 pm
DA simply cant wait on potential his job and rep are on the line thus goodbye DVD hello seasoned vet.
September 3rd, 2012 at 5:06 pm
raidersmartone Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 4:54 pm
it’s kinda funny how coach d.a. and jason tarver describe how wht defensive philosophy and approach they are going to scheme ths year!”multiplicity to simplicity”meaning were going to put are players in plays tht best fit them in making plays…huff,tommy kelly,mike mitchell,phillip wheeler,etc.then on the other side of the ball”lets go take a knapp offense’’sounds and looks like there going to put there best players in the worst circumstances not only to be productive,but put them in the best way to make plays accordingly to there strenghts and abilitys???”oh boy”,looks like its going to be a waste of a year!!expect mass exodus on the offensive side of the ball just the the defense this year….
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I pretty much posted the same thing a few weeks ago, it sounds like they are doind on defense what Hue did for our offense, play to our players strengths. I hope DA won’t fk around if the offense isn’t getting the job done, we do have another OC on staff if we need him
September 3rd, 2012 at 5:06 pm
I’ve got 8 to 10 trolls just standing in line,
And ain’t a day pass,
I don’t kick 4 or 5 of em in their no good ass.
September 3rd, 2012 at 5:07 pm
People do realize, that our offense was VASTLY more awful last preseason than this preseason right?
First game against AZ, first team offense scored 3 points.
Next week against SF, 1st drive, 3 and out. Next drive, failed red zone drive, sacked on 4th down at the 3. Next drive, Soup sacked, fumbled, injured. Zero points.
Against NO, game 3, we scored 10 points in the half, same as our 3rd game this season.
Why the panic?
Last preseason, we went 0-4, gave up 100 points and scored 44.
September 3rd, 2012 at 5:08 pm
Backstageatapuppetshow Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 4:59 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 4:51 pm
Backstageatapuppetshow Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 4:46 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 4:43 pm
I Dont know either db well enough to give either credit. I’ve seen hanson a bit with the eagles and nothing jumps out at you same for Pat Lee.
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I don’t want any credit you have to give! I’d rather you disagree.
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LOL My expertise is far superior than most and that includes so called experts dont go there puppet man.
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Glad to have you aboard then EastOakland….if we agreed with the so-called experts…we would both be wrong!
I believe this BLOG has much more power than many would like to admit!
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All in good fun my friend 1 Nation!!!
September 3rd, 2012 at 5:11 pm
McKenzie and Allen are trying to win this year, not 4 years from now.
I think that is the only way to play this game, win now.
None of us can say how it will turn out.
Next year they will do everything in their power to win again. What else can you do?
September 3rd, 2012 at 5:13 pm
Twocents Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 5:11 pm
McKenzie and Allen are trying to win this year, not 4 years from now.
I think that is the only way to play this game, win now.
None of us can say how it will turn out.
Next year they will do everything in their power to win again. What else can you do?
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Best post of the day!
September 3rd, 2012 at 5:16 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 5:00 pm
I ve swam acros Muddy Rivers, and ain’t never got wet
Mountains, have fell on me and I ain’t dead yet.
I’ve rode across the Oceans on the head of my dik
And ate 9 tons of catschit and ain’t never got sick
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KK at it again.
September 3rd, 2012 at 5:17 pm
DHB and Streater are basically the only 2 WRs in top shape. We all know DHBs hands are made of solid rock, so Streater could catch 8 or 9 balls on Monday Night… Im on a PPR fantasy league, Streater will be a beast!
September 3rd, 2012 at 5:17 pm
Twocents did you find any Drones in your yard this holiday weekend?
September 3rd, 2012 at 5:22 pm
I like’em big and I like’em fat
All the cushion is where it’s at
But I do need some air every now and again
So I can go back to work in my big play pen
September 3rd, 2012 at 5:22 pm
Damn Drones are all over lately, did you have some in your back yard too KK?
September 3rd, 2012 at 5:23 pm
lol
September 3rd, 2012 at 5:23 pm
KoolKell, you tried that a few days ago. Keep cheering on the state. For a black man to advocate slavery is beyond belief.
September 3rd, 2012 at 5:23 pm
I like the defensive fire sale the Raiders had this off-season. Lito and CJ are still on the street. Our defense was a hideous joke last season. There is no way we go anywhere but up from there.
September 3rd, 2012 at 5:29 pm
Just Win Baby Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 5:23 pm
I like the defensive fire sale the Raiders had this off-season. Lito and CJ are still on the street. Our defense was a hideous joke last season. There is no way we go anywhere but up from there.
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Last year out defense was:
-putrid
-rank
-rancid
-rotten
-odorous
-foul
-offensive
-stank
-out to lunch
We have nowhere to go but up.
One sign we’ll be better is we have less penalties. We stopped the juggernaught seattle offense, held dallas to 3 points, shut down Megatron and the lions, and shut down the NFC favorite cards. And this with scrubs half the time. If Knapp allows this offense to play to its potential, we very well could be 16-0.
September 3rd, 2012 at 5:32 pm
Even if we had the exact same personnell as last season, we would still be a better Defense this seson simply because of Allen and Tarver and a change of philosophy this season. To expect 16 – 0 is probably a bit grandiose, but if we go 8 – 8 again I would consider it a step backward.
September 3rd, 2012 at 5:34 pm
Magic Underwear? JFB, Boxers or Briefs.
September 3rd, 2012 at 5:35 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 5:34 pm
Magic Underwear? JFB, Boxers or Briefs.
Or Thong?
September 3rd, 2012 at 5:38 pm
-putrid
-rank
-rancid
-rotten
-odorous
-foul
-offensive
-stank
-out to lunch
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did you copy and paste that off koolkells resume?
September 3rd, 2012 at 5:41 pm
Everyone thinks we upgrade our secondary by trading a 23 year cut for a 31 year old cut and spencer does not look like starter material either.I hope everyone is right because rivers will be here Monday and we will see how good they are.
September 3rd, 2012 at 5:46 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 5:07 pm
People do realize, that our offense was VASTLY more awful last preseason than this preseason right?
First game against AZ, first team offense scored 3 points.
Next week against SF, 1st drive, 3 and out. Next drive, failed red zone drive, sacked on 4th down at the 3. Next drive, Soup sacked, fumbled, injured. Zero points.
Against NO, game 3, we scored 10 points in the half, same as our 3rd game this season.
Why the panic?
Last preseason, we went 0-4, gave up 100 points and scored 44.
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There you go! Nice perspective for the ’sky is falling’ crowd.
September 3rd, 2012 at 5:51 pm
I’m not too worried about the team after this preseason, it’s just practice right?
One thing is obvious though, our backup o-line is dreadful.
September 3rd, 2012 at 5:52 pm
oldschoolraider Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 3:26 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 3:24 pm
Oldschoolraider Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 3:21 pm
“– Lest you think the Raiders are set at running back, consider a report from the Newark-Star (N.J.) Ledger that says the Raiders and Seattle Seahawks also put in waiver claims on former Giants running back D.J. Ware, who went to the Buccaneers because of a higher priority in terms of waiver claims.”
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Higher priority?? What, they called dibbs?
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Worse record than us last year. Weaker teams get priority.
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Thanks
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Did some checking and found out that Steve and the Newark-Star (N.J.) Ledger were wrong.
As a vet ware wasn’t subject to waiver rules. He got offers from several teams and chose to go to Tampa Bay.
September 3rd, 2012 at 5:55 pm
Sweep The Leg. Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 5:51 pm
I’m not too worried about the team after this preseason, it’s just practice right?
One thing is obvious though, our backup o-line is dreadful.
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Exactly right. Overall depth is a concern and DA said as much. People like to say ‘well, what else is the coach going to say about the offense?’ or ‘what else is the coach going to say about the QB?’ but DA comes off as a straight shooter no-nonsense guy. He said depth was a big concern with no sugar coating and they went out & addressed it.
September 3rd, 2012 at 5:59 pm
The OL is a huge concern to me and I think it is a huge concern to McKenzie/Allen. We have ten OL on the 53 man roster.
September 3rd, 2012 at 6:00 pm
The Raiders will turn turn on the Offensive Juggernaught Momday.
September 3rd, 2012 at 6:03 pm
– The six primary cornerbacks that received playing time for the Raiders in 2011 no longer are on the 53-man roster — Stanford Routt, Chris Johnson, DeMarcus Van Dyke, Chimdi Chekwa, Joe Porter and Lito Sheppard.
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Well at least the new regime saw that trainwreck and fixed it.
September 3rd, 2012 at 6:03 pm
old raider fm. the 60s chking in.After the past 10 yrs its a plasure to say I AM A
RAIDER !! who knows whats in store for us, but I do belive we r going in the right direction.
September 3rd, 2012 at 6:15 pm
Went on down to Kanasa City
Kickin assez till both shoes were schitty.
September 3rd, 2012 at 6:26 pm
gentlemen start your kegerator’s! Nice to see some db depth. Still worried a out Spence and lb depth! Would like to see us sign Molten center from N.E. Waiver and maybe Hightower if they can pass physical, since I would like for wiz to teturn to lg for continuity? Glad we upgraded to blueray! To bad we didn’t pick up Vontae? All this talk about alligator arms aka Murphy is a joke! We at least got future concideration for Mr scary cat! So are game is next Monday right, yet the season strata Wednesday! Would a vets contract be guaranteed if we sign C Mop & Ad Plax & Rb Hightower this wed or thurs? Raider On brothers!
September 3rd, 2012 at 6:29 pm
Looks like KookyKell is drunk on the malt liquors again.
September 3rd, 2012 at 6:35 pm
DVD needs to change his name to Beta Max
September 3rd, 2012 at 6:38 pm
Sweep The Leg. Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 5:51 pm
I’m not too worried about the team after this preseason, it’s just practice right?
One thing is obvious though, our backup o-line is dreadful.
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You know what? It doesn’t help if our OC doesn’t help them out by recognizing all they are doing is going aggressively after our back field and refusing to call any plays to beat it. One screen play the entire game?
That’s the EXACT same thing Knapp did in 2008… if anyone remembers.
Our o line was horrible made worse by a moron that doesn’t know how to punish teams for over-aggressiveness into the back field.
I had flash backs… it almost made me puke.
September 3rd, 2012 at 6:39 pm
Hobed in Chi
Who did he run into?
Mabel. Of all the whores she was the boss.
She’d Fuk ya, suk ya, and jak you off.
September 3rd, 2012 at 6:40 pm
Why is it that most fans here dis players who have been on the team and either performed well or at least shown flashes while heaping praise on guys we pick up off the street who were cast away by other teams?
Jacoby Ford has taken over games for the Raiders and made some huge, explosive plays for us, yet you guys want him cut or demoted so far down the WR depth chart he doesn’t see the field. Same went for Louis Murphy who was our best WR his first two years in the league before injury derailed him in 2011. Kam Wimbley was our best edge pass rusher by far and we still don’t have a replacement for that role unless Ihenacho surprises. But people were partying when we cut him in order to save just a few mil against the cap. Some are posting that it’s on Carson Palmer to prove himself in Knapp’s system while Knapp gets a pass if his system isn’t tailored to Palmer’s strengths. People advocate cutting Richard Seymour even when they are aware his contract is fully guaranteed and that would serve absolutely no purpose other than to spite the All Pro DT who has gone to back to back Pro Bowls for the Raiders. Tommy Kelly, one of the best DTs in the NFL, if you know the game, is another guy members of the board want gone.
Then there’s the dancing on Al Davis’ grave contingent, dumping on the legendary, innovative, threetime Super Bowl winning,- Hall of Fame football man, spouting their ridiculous “In Reggie We Trust” slogans. Maybe McKenzie will be good or maybe he’ll go down as the Art Shell Part II of GMs. The jury is still out on that one.
I guess the combination of: what’s shiny and new, blind faith and wishful optimism is pretty darn powerful. Especially on this blog these days.
September 3rd, 2012 at 6:42 pm
Backstageatapuppetshow Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 4:28 pm
Love it!
Great Job Reggie McKenzie!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGdtVe75RL0&feature=g-all-u
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Thx for the post Backstage. Big Reg working the waiver wire got a good one!
September 3rd, 2012 at 6:43 pm
There’s 2 kinds of people Chris.
September 3rd, 2012 at 6:45 pm
Those with loaded guns and those that dig!
September 3rd, 2012 at 6:49 pm
The OL is a huge concern to me and I think it is a huge concern to McKenzie/Allen. We have ten OL on the 53 man roster.
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Our o-line was one of our few strengths last year. IIRC we were in the top five in sacks allowed, and had the NFL’s leading rusher until he got injured.
The players are nearly all the same… so if it suddenly becomes a concern… doesn’t the blame go to coaching?
I will drink the McKenzie Koolade with the best of them… but the Knapp hire was a head scratcher. He doesn’t seem to have any sense of the game besides mindlessly calling plays like a 10 year old on Madden.
If I was SD’s DC, I’d throw the HOUSE at the Raiders every play and see if Knapp is smart enough to make adjustments.
I have never seen it happen before, and Norv was around back then kicking our a** every game too..
September 3rd, 2012 at 6:50 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 5:55 pm
Sweep The Leg. Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 5:51 pm
I’m not too worried about the team after this preseason, it’s just practice right?
One thing is obvious though, our backup o-line is dreadful.
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Exactly right. Overall depth is a concern and DA said as much. People like to say ‘well, what else is the coach going to say about the offense?’ or ‘what else is the coach going to say about the QB?’ but DA comes off as a straight shooter no-nonsense guy. He said depth was a big concern with no sugar coating and they went out & addressed it.
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DA does not come off as a “straight shooter no-nonsense guy”. If he was you would of heard a show of concern about the starting QB(CP) playing like complete crap because he is not a west coast offense QB.
September 3rd, 2012 at 6:53 pm
Chris In NY, you are taking a comment here and there and trying to say that is the way majority feel.
Why?
September 3rd, 2012 at 6:56 pm
Chris, I can see what you are trying to get across. I see both sides of the fence. But we alsoust realize : Wimbley wasn’t that great besides the SD game. He was almost invisible.
Murphy was never the same. He regressed and would probably be towards the bottom of the current depth chart. Don’t get me wrong, I like the guy.
Same goes for Seymour, I’m a fan. But I also realize that he is long in the tooth and they need to start grooming replacements.
We’ll see after week 4 where this team and organization stands. Been a fan too long, seen it all. It will be exciting to see how this all turns out.
September 3rd, 2012 at 6:58 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 4:56 pm
Make no mistake, DVD’s ability to change direction fluidly is the thing that separates him from most DBs in this league period. Few other guys can flip their hips and track a receiver as well as DVD can.
The flaw in DVD’s game was everything else. Situational awareness, tackling, tracking the BALL and not just his man.
The physical skills were all there for DVD. But the mental skills were not. Can those mental skills be taught, and eventually developed? Sure. But any player who doesn’t have those is more of a liability on the field than players who have the mental aspect of the game down but not the prototypical physical makeup.
Bottom line is that DVD isn’t on the team anymore because the coaching staff simply couldn’t put him on the field without him being a liability. And BECAUSE it’s a thin position group, they couldn’t afford to keep a guy around anymore just because he might eventually be good.
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Excellent points. We need to rebuild this team with players who have good heads on their shoulders, who have an innate feel for the game, and are players first and raw athletes seconds.
September 3rd, 2012 at 6:59 pm
No doubt that Kam was pretty good when his hand was in the grass
But……If Rolando has decided to grow up and play football, this season’s LB crew could be better. Hard to tell.
A healthy Goethel vs Blackstock is one improvement.
Wheeler seems to be seeing red
Ihenacho has brains and good size
If Curry comes back great, but Miles should be fine until then.
Not sure about Clayton yet.
Only 5 LB’s on the 53. I don’t see a 3-4 scheme this year.
Added bonus: Stupar on the PS should be smart enough to add a few pounds and continue to develope.
September 3rd, 2012 at 7:02 pm
Chris in NY, I’ve been reading your posts for a couple years and what strikes me about you is that, while your loyalty is admirable, you bring a distinctive naivete about the reality of of things that the rest of of are long over. You wanna cling to the myth of the Raiders (long dead by the way), believe that players are actually “Raiders first” rather looking out for their own self interest, and that it’s still “us vs. them”, when in reality the NFL these days is a closed knit family of overpaid millionaires that mostly looks out for itself.
September 3rd, 2012 at 7:10 pm
Either Kell’s name has been hijacked, or he’s been drinking vodka/Red Bulls ALL DAY LONG.. lol
September 3rd, 2012 at 7:10 pm
New sheriff in town folks. Get used to it. Maybe we have a SB caliber team in 2-3 years.
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/id/47791/raiders-send-strong-message-at-cb
September 3rd, 2012 at 7:10 pm
Chris in NY,
Al Davis is to be respected and honored. Enough said.
As for the players you mentioned, Raider fans are tired of seeing highly paid players produce at medicore or worse levels.
My opinion on the players you mentioned – just my opinion.
Carson Palmer – I think Carson is going to have a good year actually. However, going with the WCO was a strategic decision by DA and Reggie. They are going to draft/select players that match the system. If Carson cannot execute Knapp’s offense, I doubt the leadership is going to wait around too long for a 33 yr old QB. For Carson, the time is now.
Jacoby Ford – A good player. Health issues keeping him from making a mark.
Louis Murphy – I like the player. However, he was behind Moore and DHB. We are talking about a 4th receiver, maybe 3rd. Injuries put him further behind.
Kam Wimbley – One of the “check cashers” and I am glad he’s gone. He would come up and have one monster game and maybe a play here or there. Guys getting his bank are supposed to be a factor in more games than not. This guy was non-factor most of the time….He will disappear just like Derick Burgess over time.
Tommy Kelly – He’s getting big money too. Although, he had a good year last year. But prior to last year, he was one of those check cashers. Too many games of being a non-factor but getting top 5 for his position money. I actually expect big things from him this year with scheme changes.
Seymour – Again, he hasn’t been performing as an elite DT. Stupid penalties and he too disappeared for long stretches in games.
September 3rd, 2012 at 7:15 pm
WE are stuck with Seymour’s contract. I agree with resting him in preseason and practice because if he does have anything left I would rather save it for the games that count. I think Reggie would like to have kept Wimbley but we were in salary cap hell and we just couldn’t afford to overpay him, and Wimbley refused to take any reduction. Whealer may not be as good a pass rusher, but is a much better linebacker overall. I thought the offense last year was just about half a beat off from being elite. I hope DA and Knapp know what they are doing with the scheme because if the offense doesn’t play well it won’t be for lack of talent. Good coaches design their scheme around their players strengths, and then adjust their schemes as they acquire players that fit their philosophies.
September 3rd, 2012 at 7:17 pm
My guess is that Chris in NY is an intelligent and well spoken young person. He adored Al Davis. He will not accept anyone else running the Raiders.
People die Chris, your day will come.
September 3rd, 2012 at 7:17 pm
[...] McClain says he’s not worried about possible suspension Whether Raiders middle linebacker Rolando McClain gets suspended for his offseason conviction on four misdemeanors from a gun-related incident last season is in the hands of NFL commissioner Roger Goodell. Raiders coach Dennis Allen and general manag… [...]
September 3rd, 2012 at 7:19 pm
Twocents,
Not saying it’s the majority. But it’s definitely a very large contingent saying some or all of those things. Just feels like there’s a good amount of disloyalty to the guys who have been here and made a decent impact or are good players in favor of the next new guy who gets exalted to unreasonable levels. I also feel like many follow the consensus of obnoxious national football media types who tend to have a pretty lame take on most teams and don’t have a nuanced understanding of the players, coaches and front office.
How many times have we already been forced to hear how Reggie McKenzie has this thing on the right track, either stating or implying the Raiders were hopeless with Al Davis. And that noise will only get louder if the Raiders win right away, even thoug they were well on their way to the postseason last year before DMC went down and we had to switch QBs on the fly.
If the Raiders win in 2012, the talking heads will say it’s because of Reggie McKenzie and not because of moves like …
- Finding a top LT in Round 3 from a D2 school.
- Landing incredibly explosive, talented players in mid/late rounds in Moore, Ford and Jones
- Having the boldness to draft DHB against all consensus opinion and make a bold trade for Seymour.
If the Raiders regress from back to back 8-8 seasons where they were clearly on an upward trajectory the talking heads will say it’s just that the place was such a mess and now Reggie McKenzie is here, getting things on track and it will take time to set things right, but that the Raiders are “doing things the right way now.”
I can see the inevitable narratives and it just kind of makes me sick how incorrect and disrespectful it’s going to be to Al and co., either way.
September 3rd, 2012 at 7:19 pm
Jacoby Ford has taken over games for the Raiders and made some huge, explosive plays for us, yet you guys want him cut or demoted so far down the WR depth chart he doesn’t see the field.
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Ford won us that Chiefs game and done little else.
The main thing I don’t like is his refusal to turn into defender on poor passes… which is DHB’s problem too. The difference is Ford is like 6 inches shorter than DHB.
I don’t get the people that have a hard one for Ford.
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Same went for Louis Murphy who was our best WR his first two years in the league before injury derailed him in 2011.
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Murphy was CLEARLY shell-shocked last year. He looked like he didn’t want anything to do with contact. What are you supposed to do with a WR like that?
I kinda agree with much of the rest you posted, especially about CP adapting to Knapp instead of the other way around. I remember 2008… Knapp doesn’t adapt to ANYTHING. He’s like a ten year old playing Madden.
People thinking he is the long term answer are riding completely on blind faith.
September 3rd, 2012 at 7:25 pm
Bueller!
Bueller?
Testing!
Bueller!
September 3rd, 2012 at 7:25 pm
I hope Murphy does play well, because I think we get a better draft pick if he does.
September 3rd, 2012 at 7:28 pm
What do ou think their plan is if McClain goes to the slammer? Goethel? Tollefson?
September 3rd, 2012 at 7:29 pm
Chris, sometimes I loved Al Davis and other times I was scratching my head over his antics. The man made his mark and that is enough for anyone.
September 3rd, 2012 at 7:39 pm
I think McClain’s lawyers will keep the case from going to trial until after the season, and any suspension would come after that. I doubt that his problems will affect his availability this year.
September 3rd, 2012 at 7:39 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 1:21 pm
Notice the A’s winning a ton since they demoted that slug Jemile Weeks.
Man he was awful, good for the A’s to not even call him up with the rest of the Sept call-ups.
I always told people on here, if his name was Jason Wells, nobody would have gave a lick about him.
But he was “Jemile” with cool hair, so everyone thought he would be great.
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stfu, he’ll be alright.
September 3rd, 2012 at 7:39 pm
McCheese is fine, wasn’t him who beat the guy up anyhow..
September 3rd, 2012 at 7:45 pm
If he goes to jury trial and gets convicted then I would think that he would end up with a suspension after any jail time he ends up spending, but if he is acquitted then I can’t see him getting a suspension.
September 3rd, 2012 at 7:54 pm
Seems like a funny system in Alabama. First you get tried by a judge, and if you don’t like the outcome, then you have the right to a jury trial. I guess it gives you two chances at an acquittal though.
September 3rd, 2012 at 7:54 pm
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Excellent points. We need to rebuild this team with players who have good heads on their shoulders, who have an innate feel for the game, and are players first and raw athletes seconds.
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And smart. One thing I noticed about the giants last season was they had smart intelligent players, gathering what I saw on TV.
And I saw an interview with Dave Wyman (former seahawk). He was babbling on about the fact the a 4-0 preseason for the birds didn’t sit well with him. Made him a little nervous. Imagine that. Maybe the former USC head coach has showed his hand and is now giving the other teams something to game plan around.
Things I hope for come Monday night:
-CP3 is still a happy camper wearing Silver and Black
-Denarius Moore is ready to go, but PLEASE, no punt returns.
-If we are stuck with the ZBS and WCO, we can punch it in from the 1 yard line.
And another preseason observation; Pryor has a ways to go, but he is about as legit as they get. Within a couple/few years, he will own the position. I have that much faith in him. He wants it, and eventually, he’ll be there. He’s on the right track. Palmer as his mentor, and they are not throwing him into the fire. Old scholl here. Let him learn, groom him, and he will be everything we hoped for.
September 3rd, 2012 at 7:55 pm
Very excited about Monday, but I realize that Rome wasn’t built in a day.
Having said that, I also realize that Raider fans will begin b tching at the beginning of the second quarter.
September 3rd, 2012 at 7:55 pm
raiderkoolaid Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 7:54 pm
Seems like a funny system in Alabama. First you get tried by a judge, and if you don’t like the outcome, then you have the right to a jury trial. I guess it gives you two chances at an acquittal though.
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In the old days they would just string you up.
September 3rd, 2012 at 7:58 pm
Hopefully we have played it close to the vest and haven’t tipped our hands on our best goal line plays.
September 3rd, 2012 at 8:00 pm
We need a big back to use on the goal line.
September 3rd, 2012 at 8:00 pm
Wassup Armond!
September 3rd, 2012 at 8:01 pm
Having said that, I also realize that Raider fans will begin b tching at the beginning of the second quarter.
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The b!tchin started 4 wks ago. Fans claiming Knapps offense doesn’t fit the players.
Who’s right? I don’t know. We’ll find out by the bye week.
September 3rd, 2012 at 8:04 pm
Bring back Zack Crockett. He was the best short yardage back I ever saw.
September 3rd, 2012 at 8:08 pm
put the big man in at the goal line: ReggieMac
September 3rd, 2012 at 8:21 pm
179.raiderkoolaid Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 8:04 pm
Bring back Zack Crockett. He was the best short yardage back I ever saw.
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Maybe for the Raiders. But I say Fridge Perry.
September 3rd, 2012 at 8:43 pm
Chris in NY Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 7:19 pm
Twocents,
Not saying it’s the majority. But it’s definitely a very large contingent saying some or all of those things. Just feels like there’s a good amount of disloyalty to the guys who have been here and made a decent impact or are good players in favor of the next new guy who gets exalted to unreasonable levels. I also feel like many follow the consensus of obnoxious national football media types who tend to have a pretty lame take on most teams and don’t have a nuanced understanding of the players, coaches and front office.
How many times have we already been forced to hear how Reggie McKenzie has this thing on the right track, either stating or implying the Raiders were hopeless with Al Davis. And that noise will only get louder if the Raiders win right away, even thoug they were well on their way to the postseason last year before DMC went down and we had to switch QBs on the fly.
If the Raiders win in 2012, the talking heads will say it’s because of Reggie McKenzie and not because of moves like …
– Finding a top LT in Round 3 from a D2 school.
– Landing incredibly explosive, talented players in mid/late rounds in Moore, Ford and Jones
– Having the boldness to draft DHB against all consensus opinion and make a bold trade for Seymour.
If the Raiders regress from back to back 8-8 seasons where they were clearly on an upward trajectory the talking heads will say it’s just that the place was such a mess and now Reggie McKenzie is here, getting things on track and it will take time to set things right, but that the Raiders are “doing things the right way now.”
I can see the inevitable narratives and it just kind of makes me sick how incorrect and disrespectful it’s going to be to Al and co., either way.
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I agree.
September 3rd, 2012 at 8:57 pm
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September 3rd, 2012 at 9:00 pm
“– Lest you think the Raiders are set at running back, consider a report from the Newark-Star (N.J.) Ledger that says the Raiders and Seattle Seahawks also put in waiver claims on former Giants running back D.J. Ware, who went to the Buccaneers because of a higher priority in terms of waiver claims.”
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There may be a new RB#3 soon
September 3rd, 2012 at 9:20 pm
raiderkoolaid Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 7:54 pm
Seems like a funny system in Alabama. First you get tried by a judge, and if you don’t like the outcome, then you have the right to a jury trial.
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If you have the $$$$. If not, which 99.99999% don’t, you are taking a conviction.
September 3rd, 2012 at 9:21 pm
If the OL does its’ job, there is no reason we should need a big back to punch the ball in on the goal line.
September 3rd, 2012 at 9:21 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 8:43 pm
Chris in NY Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 7:19 pm
Twocents,
Not saying it’s the majority. But it’s definitely a very large contingent saying some or all of those things. Just feels like there’s a good amount of disloyalty to the guys who have been here and made a decent impact or are good players in favor of the next new guy who gets exalted to unreasonable levels. I also feel like many follow the consensus of obnoxious national football media types who tend to have a pretty lame take on most teams and don’t have a nuanced understanding of the players, coaches and front office.
How many times have we already been forced to hear how Reggie McKenzie has this thing on the right track, either stating or implying the Raiders were hopeless with Al Davis. And that noise will only get louder if the Raiders win right away, even thoug they were well on their way to the postseason last year before DMC went down and we had to switch QBs on the fly.
If the Raiders win in 2012, the talking heads will say it’s because of Reggie McKenzie and not because of moves like …
– Finding a top LT in Round 3 from a D2 school.
– Landing incredibly explosive, talented players in mid/late rounds in Moore, Ford and Jones
– Having the boldness to draft DHB against all consensus opinion and make a bold trade for Seymour.
If the Raiders regress from back to back 8-8 seasons where they were clearly on an upward trajectory the talking heads will say it’s just that the place was such a mess and now Reggie McKenzie is here, getting things on track and it will take time to set things right, but that the Raiders are “doing things the right way now.”
I can see the inevitable narratives and it just kind of makes me sick how incorrect and disrespectful it’s going to be to Al and co., either way.
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I agree.
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That was perfectly written. It’s 100 % true.
It IS possible to have respect for Al Davis and STILL be 100 % behind the new regime.
September 3rd, 2012 at 9:22 pm
Carson Palmer should be able to run the ball in behind Wiz2 from the 1 yard line.
September 3rd, 2012 at 9:25 pm
Marcus allen was a better short yardage than zack c.
September 3rd, 2012 at 9:26 pm
I don’t know how many times I would want Carson throwing a shoulder into Dlinemen at the goal line. If Mcfadden and/or Goodson can’t get three feet when we really need it, we got big problems.
September 3rd, 2012 at 9:29 pm
No bloody intercepts the whole game, set a precedent for the season Flaming Red..
Yes i have had mutiple drinks.
September 3rd, 2012 at 9:31 pm
raiderkoolaid Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 8:04 pm
Bring back Zack Crockett. He was the best short yardage back I ever saw.
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I loved Zack.
They should build a statue to him.
September 3rd, 2012 at 9:33 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 9:21 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 8:43 pm
Chris in NY Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 7:19 pm
Twocents,
Not saying it’s the majority. But it’s definitely a very large contingent saying some or all of those things. Just feels like there’s a good amount of disloyalty to the guys who have been here and made a decent impact or are good players in favor of the next new guy who gets exalted to unreasonable levels. I also feel like many follow the consensus of obnoxious national football media types who tend to have a pretty lame take on most teams and don’t have a nuanced understanding of the players, coaches and front office.
How many times have we already been forced to hear how Reggie McKenzie has this thing on the right track, either stating or implying the Raiders were hopeless with Al Davis. And that noise will only get louder if the Raiders win right away, even thoug they were well on their way to the postseason last year before DMC went down and we had to switch QBs on the fly.
If the Raiders win in 2012, the talking heads will say it’s because of Reggie McKenzie and not because of moves like …
– Finding a top LT in Round 3 from a D2 school.
– Landing incredibly explosive, talented players in mid/late rounds in Moore, Ford and Jones
– Having the boldness to draft DHB against all consensus opinion and make a bold trade for Seymour.
If the Raiders regress from back to back 8-8 seasons where they were clearly on an upward trajectory the talking heads will say it’s just that the place was such a mess and now Reggie McKenzie is here, getting things on track and it will take time to set things right, but that the Raiders are “doing things the right way now.”
I can see the inevitable narratives and it just kind of makes me sick how incorrect and disrespectful it’s going to be to Al and co., either way.
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I agree.
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That was perfectly written. It’s 100 % true.
It IS possible to have respect for Al Davis and STILL be 100 % behind the new regime.
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Doesn’t matter who gets the credit….the same guy that gets the credit will be the same guy who takes the blame…..
Al Davis is gone…but will NEVER forgotten…
AL would want Reggie to do it his way…
I love AL DAVIS as much as anyone….but the man is gone…AL would want the Raiders to win….Al wouldn’t care what the pundits say…
September 3rd, 2012 at 9:36 pm
Blackmamba_20 Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 9:29 pm
No bloody intercepts the whole game, set a precedent for the season Flaming Red..
Yes i have had mutiple drinks.
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I am shocked…. Shocked!
September 3rd, 2012 at 9:38 pm
If it aint Raider football, then its all just a bunch of hogwash.
September 3rd, 2012 at 9:38 pm
Cheesepuff Macaroon Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 9:38 pm
If it aint Raider football, then its all just a bunch of hogwash.
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Amen
September 3rd, 2012 at 9:39 pm
Yeah this talk of the Raiders being a “hot, sick, mess” of garbage b4 Reggie is not accurate.
I’m happy for the new openness in the org. Kinda a big deal imo for the future. The new defensive philosophy is a nice change…There was a disconnect there with that. I don’t know if it was implementation and translation of Al Davis’s ideas…or just that it was an outdated mode of doing business defensively…but the D was not working.
That being said for all the talk of the horrific state of the franchise before Reggie, this was a team on the rise while Al was still in charge. The 16-16 record over the last 2 yrs. ..while not anything to throw a party over, was still good enough to rank the Raiders in the upper half of the league in regular season wins over that 2 yr. period.
This is NOT an expansion team Reggie is taking over, but one could argue a team on the precipice of a big breakthrough…as evidenced by the fact we were literally a defensive stop away from winning the division and hosting a playoff game at the O.Co….and playing a beat up Pittsburgh team? Might have won it.
Yes, there were 7 yrs. of hell; the worst stretch in franchise history, but it’s a team that is still only 9yrs. removed from an AFC championship in 2003.
I hope the Raiders open up a major can of whoop azz on the league this yr and realize Al will get no credit whatsoever for it…but if they do win it will be without a key contribution from alot of the guys our dearly departed “Lord Sidious” was responsible for bringing on.
Go Reggie
Go Raiders
September 3rd, 2012 at 9:39 pm
I’ll take it a step further, if it ain’t a RAIDER BLOG, it ain’t chit!
September 3rd, 2012 at 9:40 pm
I say if Reiggie can suit up, suit him up. All we need to do is punch it in from the 1.
September 3rd, 2012 at 9:41 pm
is 6 too 7 sackes being greedy on “Cry me a Rivers”
September 3rd, 2012 at 9:41 pm
*NOT WITHOUT key contribution.
September 3rd, 2012 at 9:42 pm
Reggie doesn’t get the credit if it works….Mark does….
Conversely, if it doesn’t work….Mark will get the blame….
September 3rd, 2012 at 9:45 pm
backstageatapuppetshow Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 9:39 pm
I’ll take it a step further, if it ain’t a RAIDER BLOG, it ain’t chit!
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Maybe i drunk too much of the kool aid, but fck it. This is the Raiders year. All else can eat shіt.
September 3rd, 2012 at 9:46 pm
It’d be funny to see Mark stalking the sidelines ala Jerry Jones with that big, happy go lucky smile on his face and that humorous hairdo.
Well…maybe not.
September 3rd, 2012 at 9:48 pm
Why does everyone hate on Mark and his haircut?
Mark, dressed in ALL White, is a stone COLD PIMP!
September 3rd, 2012 at 9:48 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 9:46 pm
It’d be funny to see Mark stalking the sidelines ala Jerry Jones with that big, happy go lucky smile on his face and that humorous hairdo.
Well…maybe not.
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He does that pre game. Dude is a celeb. He looks like a folk singer.
September 3rd, 2012 at 9:49 pm
I think Dennis Allen will get the credit if it works. Reggie isn’t handsome enough to be smart on television.
September 3rd, 2012 at 9:49 pm
Marks hair Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 9:25 pm
Marcus allen was a better short yardage than zack c.
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Marcus Allen was the best in the NFL at short yardage
September 3rd, 2012 at 9:49 pm
He inherited the best quality in his character that his father possessed…
He doesn’t care what anyone thinks!
September 3rd, 2012 at 9:50 pm
207.. thats. Cold.. but funny..lol
September 3rd, 2012 at 9:50 pm
Mark, dressed in ALL White, is a stone COLD PIMP!
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pwhahaha that was killer, a real lemonade popsocal outfit.
no stains !!
September 3rd, 2012 at 9:51 pm
Marcus Allen, Bo Jackson, Napoleon Kaufman…… Who had the best career avg yds per carry?
September 3rd, 2012 at 9:53 pm
Bo Jax – 5.4 ypc Nap 4.9 ypc Marcus – 4.1 ypc
September 3rd, 2012 at 9:55 pm
Darren McFadden 5.4 ypc career. Think about that, fellas.
September 3rd, 2012 at 9:56 pm
My Bad, Mcfadden 4.8 career. 5.4 last year. But still….
September 3rd, 2012 at 9:59 pm
Reggie MCKenzie’s Tuesday Checklist:
1) Get better in Secondary *done*
2) Get better at LB position
3) Find another RB. One that doesn’t fumble.
4) Meet with special team coaches
5) Find out what the fook is going on with Denarious
September 3rd, 2012 at 9:59 pm
Mcfadden has been ripping a decent run in every preseason game.. think about 4Q.. I cannot wait.. calling in sick boss
September 3rd, 2012 at 9:59 pm
In all sincerity, gotta say I love Mark’s haircut….reminds me of the funniest movie of ALL TIME…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GSXbgfKFWg
September 3rd, 2012 at 10:00 pm
DMC is hands down the most talented running back in football. I hope and pray the dude can play a complete season. It will be scary what this guy can do.
September 3rd, 2012 at 10:00 pm
Mark arrives in a limo for a Raider game, steps out dressed in a Raider long sleeve white shirt, faded levis, dirty white tennis shoes, to thousands of screamin girls and a throng of Raider fans, papparazzi all over the place, and he waves, signs a few autographs while holding his beer in the other hand, poses for a few shots, and is whisked off into the tunnell for the pregame. The dude is bigger than Justin Bieber and Madonna. All this because he owns the Raiders. This is most certainly the Raiders year.
September 3rd, 2012 at 10:02 pm
agreed JFB.
I watched the Jags game highlights from 2010 and it got me up on my feet. Captain Krik got his ankle broke and that wasnt even the best run
September 3rd, 2012 at 10:06 pm
Just Win Baby Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 10:00 pm
DMC is hands down the most talented running back in football. I hope and pray the dude can play a complete season. It will be scary what this guy can do.
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Not having Michael Bush is going to add to what McFadden brings to the table…this year…DMAC is being a vocal leader and is holding himself to an even higher standard…he isn’t going to get hurt….he is going to be putting on the hurtin’
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdB9qsN7UTI
Might be MVP if it goes down like it should….
September 3rd, 2012 at 10:09 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgjAyRS17to
Notice at 4:13 when mark loks at heer boobs. I love this guy.
September 3rd, 2012 at 10:10 pm
Test
Hi everyone.
Go Raiders!
Testing
Can I get a sound check please on 4?
Testing 1 2 3
4, can you hear me? Good
We got Shizzle in da ‘ouse baby!
(always wanted to say that)
test
Hi Everyone.
September 3rd, 2012 at 10:12 pm
Oakglen – Where ya been?
September 3rd, 2012 at 10:12 pm
Let’s do some math
Lee>Hanson>Chewka>DVD
Adams Hanson and Clayton = ST’s upgrade
We’re a better team, how much better? probably not much but i expect these new players to have a much bigger role than the ones who got cut would have had.
September 3rd, 2012 at 10:18 pm
Oakglen in the house!!! Except that’s the wrong spelling of oakglen. Funny how oakglen still gets more run in here than anyone other than Al Davis.
September 3rd, 2012 at 10:21 pm
We are better because of scheme alone. Regardless of the talent at cb, we will be better on D. We have to be.
September 3rd, 2012 at 10:21 pm
Yeah, that’s right. Two “n”S
September 3rd, 2012 at 10:23 pm
Seems unusual not to have all the usual night crew bs happening tonight.
September 3rd, 2012 at 10:25 pm
Marcus Allen played for 16 years, Think about THAT!
September 3rd, 2012 at 10:25 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 4:41 pm
At the age of one,
I was drinking Whiskey & Gin
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someone was drinking earlier today……
September 3rd, 2012 at 10:26 pm
its 3.25 wednesday, down under.. and works slow.
September 3rd, 2012 at 10:26 pm
backstageatapuppetshow Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 9:49 pm
He inherited the best quality in his character that his father possessed…
He doesn’t care what anyone thinks
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Nice observation…
BTW: I think his hairdo rules…
September 3rd, 2012 at 10:29 pm
Intrepid Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 10:25 pm
Marcus Allen played for 16 years, Think about THAT!
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That’s impressive.
Injury robbed us of Bo…I pray it doesn’t rob us of DMAC.
September 3rd, 2012 at 10:31 pm
Intrepid Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 10:25 pm
Marcus Allen played for 16 years, Think about THAT!
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Point taken. I’m just trying to say that DMC has more than just a little upside. No disrespect to Marcus Allen. He’s the reason I became a Raiders fan in the first place. 1982.
September 3rd, 2012 at 10:31 pm
The “Pitbull” is going to run wild this year….
September 3rd, 2012 at 10:32 pm
2nd that,DJ.
September 3rd, 2012 at 10:32 pm
With you 100% on DMC.
September 3rd, 2012 at 10:34 pm
Although my first Raiders jersey was #30. Mark VanEeghan. What was yours?
September 3rd, 2012 at 10:49 pm
Backstage, weren’t you the guy that was going on and on about the Raids not making changes/additions to the roster the night they originally got down to 53 ?
Don’t know if you were just playing devil’s advocate or being facetious – but there were quite a few posters here saying Reggie would be a fool not to look over the waiver wire and make moves that could help improve the roster – and you spent quite a bit of time disagreeing and saying the Raids should roll into 2012 with the roster as is.
Well, Reggie obviously didn’t see things the way you did.
Today, you’re here saying what a great move it was picking up Hanson.
What happened ?
September 3rd, 2012 at 10:51 pm
September 3rd, 2012 at 10:52 pm
Had a bunch of shirts (still do). No actual player jersey, at least that I remember. 1979 was a long time ago. Did make my own memorial ‘Tooz shirt upon his passing. RIP.
September 3rd, 2012 at 10:53 pm
Nothing happened….
Yes. I was the one who said all of those things regarding the waiver wire….
Yes. I also said I love the move today….
Glad you’re paying attention!
Reggie doesn’t need to see anything the way I do…just making sure the man does his job…so far….so good!
September 3rd, 2012 at 11:05 pm
“If you’re not prepared to be wrong, you will never come up with anything original” -Ken Robinson-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTAujby263s
September 3rd, 2012 at 11:05 pm
Reggie doesn’t need to see anything the way I do…just making sure the man does his job…so far….so good!
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Just making sure he does his job ?
That’s precisely what the debate was about the other night.
If he had listened to you, he wouldn’t have been doing his job.
Glad to see you’ve come to your senses.
September 3rd, 2012 at 11:09 pm
McFadden carried this team most recently. Now teams will have to respect the pass. This can be a real good offense. I’m glad we’re being overlooked by the pundits. It’ll make it that much sweeter if our Raids do reach their potential.
September 3rd, 2012 at 11:14 pm
Hopefully Reggie continue to do his job and finds a way to replace Goodson. There’s still an obvious need for a hammer in the backfield. Someone that can move the pile, gain some occasional yards, help carry the load – and not having the Nation holding it’s collective breath fearing a fumble.
Later, gents.
September 3rd, 2012 at 11:15 pm
Thanks Raiderman99…and you’re right…if he had listened to me….he wouldn’t have been doing his job…
Way ahead of you guys…ALL OF YOU!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdPb6lKzSY8
Goodnight
September 3rd, 2012 at 11:17 pm
In fact, this offense can be downright filthy if everyone is healthy and is being used to their potential. We’ll see what Knapp comes up with.
This glass of Kool-aid is on me. Drink up! 1 week till doomsday for SD. Rivers better start practicing turning his head to the left now . He won’t be able to hear any footsteps at the Coliseum on Monday.
September 3rd, 2012 at 11:20 pm
Donkey forum but funny pics of Rivers…
http://forums.denverbroncos.com/showthread.php?164893-Funny-picture-of-Philip-Rivers!
September 3rd, 2012 at 11:38 pm
23 new players and 2 who were hurt last year (shaugnessy and goethel). sounds like this raiders team will be different than last year’s. 13 newbies (plus the two injured guys) out of 24 on defense.
the offense was #9 in total offense last year w/o dmc and palmer playing together. it returns almost entirely this season. brisiel for satele a plus. myers for boss about even. schmitt for reece as a blocker a plus.
the horrible defense has replaced 2 LB’s and 2 CB’s plus they get shaugnessy back. almost half the defensive starters are different.
this team could be very good.
September 4th, 2012 at 12:17 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
People do realize, that our offense was VASTLY more awful last preseason than this preseason right?
First game against AZ, first team offense scored 3 points.
Next week against SF, 1st drive, 3 and out. Next drive, failed red zone drive, sacked on 4th down at the 3. Next drive, Soup sacked, fumbled, injured. Zero points.
Against NO, game 3, we scored 10 points in the half, same as our 3rd game this season.
Why the panic?
Last preseason, we went 0-4, gave up 100 points and scored 44.
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Uhm, maybe because in the 2011 pre-season we were bringing back a top 10 offensive system in both yards and points, that unit was a proven success.
This year it’s a different offensive system, with a different play-caller, the jury is still out on the 2012 version of the Raiders offense.
By the way, some guys need to make up your mind, at first the pre-season didn’t matter, Knapp wasn’t showing anything and that’s why we weren’t scoring….and now we’re comparing this pre-season stats to last year’s as proof that this year we’ll be better?.
And I’m not referring to JFB, he’s been supportive of Knapp’s offense for a while now and doesn’t back down from his stance, I give him credit for that and hope he’s right.
September 4th, 2012 at 12:17 am
Carson Palmer is only a yellow light in this offense. This team is built around DMC and his ability to move the ball. If he fails or is injured, the offense will fail without him. That is my opinion and I will stand by it. DMC will set this MFCKR off!
September 4th, 2012 at 12:28 am
And if you’ve never heard the song “Witch Wolf” by Styx, you should listen to it. F that Mr Roboto shiz.
September 4th, 2012 at 12:53 am
Styx is nice…but head to 6:42 of this video for some REAL TALK!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iohXJ63WtYk
September 4th, 2012 at 1:09 am
Take this shiz back, indeed.
September 4th, 2012 at 1:59 am
McClain has been found guilty by a judge but is appealing the verdict.
That means that the legal process isn’t over yet.
Goodell has no right to take action UNTIL the legal process is over since a jury could find McClain innocent.
If Goodell suspends McClain before the legal process is completed then Goodell is either a jackazz, a Raider-hater, or both.
September 4th, 2012 at 4:15 am
One question I got regarding the DVD release…
How lucky does Chekwa now think he was to be cut initially?
Did they have this in the plan all along? Chimdi on the practice squad and DVD eventually to be released?
Or, was this a major blunder in that they really thought DVD was better than Chimdi, and now DVD is gone.
I love the fact that we are trying to get better all the time, but I also like developing guys. Tough call.
September 4th, 2012 at 4:28 am
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
September 4th, 2012 at 1:59 am
McClain has been found guilty by a judge but is appealing the verdict.
That means that the legal process isn’t over yet.
Goodell has no right to take action UNTIL the legal process is over since a jury could find McClain innocent.
If Goodell suspends McClain before the legal process is completed then Goodell is either a jackazz, a Raider-hater, or both.
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True true and true….BUT
Goodell could suspend Ro without a conviction for the simple fact that Ro was even in a dicey situation. It’s happened before. Goodell has taken a lot of heat for it and may not be so quick to do it these days but the fact remains, he doesnt need a guilty verdict in order to crack the whip.
September 4th, 2012 at 4:29 am
Mark Sanchez (25) is banging Eva Longoria (37) , lol
September 4th, 2012 at 4:37 am
Good for Sanchez. But I hope he dont plan on dating the broad. If he does that, he will just be bringing a ton more ridiculous tabloid press on him.
I sympathize with the guy right now. The Shebow situation is not fair to him. But if he goes and dates Longoria, he’s a total F’n retard and I can no longer stick up for the clown.
September 4th, 2012 at 4:52 am
Twocents Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 7:17 pm
My guess is that Chris in NY is an intelligent and well spoken young person. He adored Al Davis. He will not accept anyone else running the Raiders.
People die Chris, your day will come.
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Chris in NY is one of the top 4 members of this blog IMO. As are you twocents. Both very intelligent.
September 4th, 2012 at 4:54 am
Van Dyke couldn’t make a tackle to save his life. Hoping to see a lot of Marcel Reece (did he even get a touch in any of these preseason games?) causing chaos and taking away even a little bit of the focus on McFadden…after all Reece did average 6+ ypc last year.
September 4th, 2012 at 5:07 am
Chris in NY is one of the top 4 members of this blog IMO. As are you twocents. Both very intelligent.
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Chris in NY is either dumb or troll. Loves Hue and hates Reggie. Chris and NY can kick the rocks.
September 4th, 2012 at 5:10 am
I think the main reason DVD is gone was his lack of coachability.
It’s get on board or GTFO with the new Reggime.
All of Al’s guys that have stuck around have bought in. The guys who arent here were either cap casualties that we wanted to keep or guys whom werent pulling their weight.
Look at Missile Mike for instance. He has bought in from day one and has never looked better and isnt going anywhere. Same with DHB. These are guys what previously were accused of only getting playing time because of AD. But the fact is, two coachs and one GM later they are still holding their positions.
The new Reggime has no favorites or biases. Expect Goodson to be gone if they can find a better replacement.
Reggie thinks we can go deep into the playoffs this year and he knows we must in order to re-negotiate deals at the end of this year otherwise we are going to see this team gutted. Only a winning season can keep this team together. Our cap issues have only just begun.
September 4th, 2012 at 5:11 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 4th, 2012 at 5:07 am
Chris in NY is one of the top 4 members of this blog IMO. As are you twocents. Both very intelligent.
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Chris in NY is either dumb or troll. Loves Hue and hates Reggie. Chris and NY can kick the rocks.
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He’s not a troll. I can guarantee that.
Ive never seen him say that he hates Reggie. I wouldnt classify him as a hater by any stretch.
September 4th, 2012 at 5:20 am
Can’t believe American Football starting tomorrow. Hurrah for America!
September 4th, 2012 at 5:36 am
Time will tell on DVD, his career may be over or he may play for another team.
But I will say this, I’m not on board with the move, I think it was premature to get rid of the kid and here’s why:
- For those who say “he wasn’t an NFL player”.
Wrong, facts and numbers are against you, no way to avoid them.
First of all, DVD actually started 4 games last year and went largely unnoticed, always a good sign for CB’s because if you’re hearing their names often, it usually means they’re getting torched.
I don’t recall anybody ripping DVD during his 4 starts and that was because he did a fine job for a rookie, yes he dropped a pick or two and missed a couple of tackles, but overall teams did not have much success when attacking him and that’s the most important thing for a CB, you know, not have opponents complete passes to his guy, coverage talent is hard to find, the rest can be developed.
Rookie CB’s get abused in the NFL on a yearly basis, QB’s lick their fingers when they spot one on the field and then usually pick on them all the time because often they struggle to adjust to this level, I watched Patrick Peterson get burned on a number of plays last year, but you know what?……..it did not happen to DVD, he was targeted and he did a good enough job that QB’s didn’t stay after him.
- Those are just my observations, you want some analysis from people who watch and grade every play individually?, here you go:
* Pro football focus: As a rookie last season, Van Dyke had a Raiders cornerback-best burn rate of 43.8, per Stats Inc., giving up 14 receptions on 32 targets for 167 yards, and a touchdown. DVD was also recognized for 4 passes defended.
* Pro football outsiders: On DVD as one their Top 25 NFL hidden prospects: Our game charting project shows him with only 4.6 adjusted yards per pass and a success rate of 67 percent. Those numbers are among the league’s best, but come with the small sample size caveat. In the past, small sample size charting numbers have picked out some soon-to-breakout stars (Cortland Finnegan) but also some busts. Van Dyke has the athletic talent to be a starting corner if he can work on his technique and discipline.
So, now that we have established that DVD, with all of his perceived flaws and by all accounts still very raw, actually started and played decent football in 4 games and saw action in many others, we can get that “DVD sucked” uhmm “argument” out of the way, in real NFL games he didn’t, in pre-seaon he kind of did for some resaon.
- Now I like the addition of Joselio Hanson, we needed a Slot CB badly, if it had come down to a Hanson vs DVD debate, I could see the logic behind dropping DVD who, make no mistake, I still consider a project, as opposed to a proven veteran but that was not the case.
At least it should not have been when Coye Francis gets a spot.
So my big beef is keeping Coye Francis over DVD.
Let’s see:
Coye Francis was drafted in 2009 by Cleveland and has played a grand total of 8 NFL games in 3 years since, obviously he’s never started one, the guy ended up the 2010 season in the UFL and was out of the NFL entirely in 2011, the kid has some talent, I´ll give him that, but he has shown nothing in games so far.
So when I see some guys saying stuff like “no more potential guys”, “we’re about production now” or something like that I wonder…………….where’s Francies production?, DVD has produced more in 1 year than this guy in 3 years since being drafted, there’s not an argument to be made here about production over potential.
And please, don’t give me the Special Teams stuff, first of all DVD played Special Teams last year, I just saw a clip of him covering a punt vs Houston and he was covering kicks vs Dallas in the 1st pre-season game, he may not be great at it but he’s willing to do it and I don’t recall him making any mistakes there.
Besides, if Francies was such a Special Teams standout, he would have never been out of the NFL (like he was for most of 2010 and the entire 2001 season).
- Now isn’t developing young, talented players a part of Coaching?.
Why not coach DVD up, why give up so soon, why not give him one more year?.
It can make a world of difference, if you don’t believe it I have a name for you Darrius Heyward-Bey.
September 4th, 2012 at 5:44 am
Hmmmmm……first Eva this week makes it public her fling with Sanchez, and then she is set to speak at the DNC in a day or two?
I am not part of the foil-hat crowd, but I don’t think that is a coinky-dink.
September 4th, 2012 at 5:47 am
I think the staff was looking for growth from DVD, and he regressed in THEIR opinion.
Didn’t play ST, and I remember the tweet from when DA ripped him a new one for doing some type of celebration after a play in practice.
The Reggie always talks about looking people in their eyes and what not. Maybe he didn’t like what he saw.
September 4th, 2012 at 5:47 am
Bob,
I agree with everything you said. But the one caveat at the end of your post is the reason why DVD isnt here anymore, he apparently wasnt coachable.
I dont doubt the kids talent, and yes he played well in games (in our old archaic system) but in the modern D, he wasnt getting it. That is the Reggime’s claim, or so we are left to infer.
September 4th, 2012 at 5:47 am
Raider Riff Says:
September 4th, 2012 at 4:15 am
One question I got regarding the DVD release…
How lucky does Chekwa now think he was to be cut initially?
Did they have this in the plan all along? Chimdi on the practice squad and DVD eventually to be released?
Or, was this a major blunder in that they really thought DVD was better than Chimdi, and now DVD is gone.
I love the fact that we are trying to get better all the time, but I also like developing guys. Tough call.
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My bet is they were planning on keeping DVD but since Joselios Hansen got released and we got our hands on him , DVD became expandable since he wasn’t going to do much in any other parts of our team like special teams
September 4th, 2012 at 5:48 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 4th, 2012 at 5:44 am
Hmmmmm……first Eva this week makes it public her fling with Sanchez, and then she is set to speak at the DNC in a day or two?
I am not part of the foil-hat crowd, but I don’t think that is a coinky-dink.
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Nothing is a coincidence.
September 4th, 2012 at 5:49 am
Besides, I am not one who thinks DVD is even going to get picked up in waivers, and if any team wants to pick him up, will do so after week 1. So if we really want to bring him back at any time, I am pretty sure he will be available.
September 4th, 2012 at 5:51 am
I believe DVD would have been a healthy inactive to start the season.
September 4th, 2012 at 5:52 am
When will we know if DVD has cleared waivers?
September 4th, 2012 at 5:53 am
Good morning Nation! Still beating the DVD horse eh?lol
September 4th, 2012 at 5:53 am
DVD was getting abused in Pre-season games by 2nd and 3rd stringers … He wasn’t taking good angles to the ball carriers most of the times and when he did he was not bringing down anybody…he may turn out to be a pretty good cornerback down the road, but we have to improve our team this year in all 3 phases ..if DVD had some kinda value on Special teams, you can bet we would have kept him over the other CB’s we signed
September 4th, 2012 at 5:56 am
I like this management… They will only keep players who are going to perform this year in one way or another …
September 4th, 2012 at 5:57 am
mcfadden20 Says:
DVD was getting abused in Pre-season games by 2nd and 3rd stringers.
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He also started 4 games last year and nobody abused him, I get that he looked bad in pre-season, he looked bad last pre-season as well but when his number was called in real games he showed up.
September 4th, 2012 at 5:59 am
mcfadden20 Says:
I like this management… They will only keep players who are going to perform this year in one way or another…
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I like them too, but please explain why do you expect Coye Francies to perform when he han’t in 3 years.
September 4th, 2012 at 5:59 am
DVD’s new name is Beta Max.
September 4th, 2012 at 6:00 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
September 4th, 2012 at 6:01 am
We need to stop worrying about the future too much , we have up and coming guys at many positions, WR, all of them under 26 RB Jones and McFadden under 25, TEs are young, OL is mostly young besides some veterans , DL is pretty young besides Kelly and Seymour, LB , we have Burris and McLain under 25.. We set at SS with Branch … We will def look for a long term CB Next year and find help at other positions
September 4th, 2012 at 6:02 am
Yes DVD played OK last season, his INT was a wobbler thrown right at him, but that was a fairly small sample size.
Give him credit for performing, but that is like saying we should have kept Joe Aska around because he ran for 100 yards in two consective games to end a season.
These guys know what to look for as far as long-term and short-term projections, and they aren’t always right, but they right more often than not.
September 4th, 2012 at 6:04 am
Listen, Reggie, DA and the rest of the organization made their call on DVD, I can live with it because I have high hopes for them, DVD is not a deal-breaker for me, I just think developing talent is a huge part of their job and DVD was worth keeping over Coye Francies.
A ton of people wanted DHB cut last year, we waited and it paid off, it’s not unreasonable to expect DVD to improve too.
September 4th, 2012 at 6:04 am
I like them too, but please explain why do you expect Coye Francies to perform when he han’t in 3 years.
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What is the reasonable expectations of what Coye Francis is going to be asked to do this season?
He probably will be inactive as well some gamedays.
Speaking of which, who do we think the 5 inactives are going to be in a week?
I think Ford for sure, one of these DB’s, maybe Gordon or Ausberry, probably Barksdale.
September 4th, 2012 at 6:05 am
Bob Marley Says:
September 4th, 2012 at 5:59 am
mcfadden20 Says:
I like this management… They will only keep players who are going to perform this year in one way or another…
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I like them too, but please explain why do you expect Coye Francies to perform when he han’t in 3 years.
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For one thing , he’s at bottom of the cb depth , he will barely be used on def.. His true value is on the special teams , he can return kicks plus he can be one of the kick and/or coverage guy..don’t tell me we can just put anybody out there .. Because we have sucked at that last year and sucked in Pre-season in kick coverage
September 4th, 2012 at 6:06 am
I think most people get a bad feeling when they see DVD go for a tackle, just praying that he doesn’t whiff by.
September 4th, 2012 at 6:08 am
This issue was beat to hell and back yesterday. DVD is a one trick pony, the guys brought in can play ST also, which was looking horrible in pre-season. I believe that is the main reason DVD is gone.
September 4th, 2012 at 6:09 am
NATION!
McClain’s not worried about his suspension and I’m not worried about the Chargers. They’re banged up all along the offensive line…right now some guy named Mike Harris, an undrafted rookie out of UCLA, is scheduled to start at left tackle. Shaughnessy should have his coming out party on national TV. And of course if Mathews is out, the decrepit Ronnie Brown is their primary back so running the ball will have minimal success.
Reggie did work on the secondary. Bartell, Spencer, Hanson and Lee may not be the most overpowering group, but I’ll take them as starters, nickel and dime guys for this season. They’re good enough to not get torched and that’ll do for now.
Raiders 37 – Chargers 19
September 4th, 2012 at 6:09 am
Bob Marley Says:
September 4th, 2012 at 6:04 am
Listen, Reggie, DA and the rest of the organization made their call on DVD, I can live with it because I have high hopes for them, DVD is not a deal-breaker for me, I just think developing talent is a huge part of their job and DVD was worth keeping over Coye Francies.
A ton of people wanted DHB cut last year, we waited and it paid off, it’s not unreasonable to expect DVD to improve too.
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Our special teams coverages sucked in this Pre-season some guys might not give u much on O and/or D but they’re money on special teams … They can be those guys who force a fumble or get a TD saving tackle , I believe if DvD was a good performer on special teams , they would have kept him instead of Francies
September 4th, 2012 at 6:10 am
Bottom of the roster, Special Team players are a dime a dozen, CB’s with coverage skills? hard to find.
September 4th, 2012 at 6:11 am
PA
I read something yesterday that Matthews was back at Dolts practice, hoping he doesn’t play though..
September 4th, 2012 at 6:11 am
294.Bob Marley Says:
September 4th, 2012 at 6:10 am
Bottom of the roster, Special Team players are a dime a dozen, CB’s with coverage skills? hard to find.
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DVD could mirror his man pretty well. Unfortunately what he could/would never do is turn his damn head to make the play. Instincts & awareness are hard to teach.
That said, I believe if Van Dyke played special teams, he’d still be a Raider. When you’re the 4th-6th CB on a roster, you’d better contribute in other ways.
September 4th, 2012 at 6:11 am
DVD is a one trick pony, the guys brought in can play ST also, which was looking horrible in pre-season. I believe that is the main reason DVD is gone.
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Yup, maybe DVD is on the roster right now if our ST’s didn’t blow so bad in the preseason.
September 4th, 2012 at 6:12 am
295.TxRaider210 Says:
September 4th, 2012 at 6:11 am
PA
I read something yesterday that Matthews was back at Dolts practice, hoping he doesn’t play though..
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Damn. still not overly worried though, this kid gets props without having done a single noteworthy thing in the league to date.
Tarver’s run D = lockdown!
September 4th, 2012 at 6:12 am
TxRaider210 Says:
This issue was beat to hell and back yesterday.
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Sorry man, but I wasn’t here yesterday and as DVD supporter, I had to say my piece and post 269 says it all.
September 4th, 2012 at 6:12 am
TxRaider210 Says:
September 4th, 2012 at 6:08 am
This issue was beat to hell and back yesterday. DVD is a one trick pony, the guys brought in can play ST also, which was looking horrible in pre-season. I believe that is the main reason DVD is gone.
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Exactly , most of these guys don’t put that phase of the game into consideration why a certain guy was kept over the other guy …our special teams and D cost us many games last year .. So why should we keep guys who won’t perform in both or either of them this year ?
September 4th, 2012 at 6:13 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 4th, 2012 at 6:11 am
DVD is a one trick pony, the guys brought in can play ST also, which was looking horrible in pre-season. I believe that is the main reason DVD is gone.
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Yup, maybe DVD is on the roster right now if our ST’s didn’t blow so bad in the preseason.
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Yeah he would be for sure, the kid has some talent but as PA mentioned he never makes plays on the ball.
September 4th, 2012 at 6:14 am
Bob Marley Says:
September 4th, 2012 at 5:57 am
mcfadden20 Says:
DVD was getting abused in Pre-season games by 2nd and 3rd stringers.
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He also started 4 games last year and nobody abused him, I get that he looked bad in pre-season, he looked bad last pre-season as well but when his number was called in real games he showed up.
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The new management wants its players to perform well ALL the time. Pulling an Allen Iverson (i.e. practice and preseason aren’t important) gets you nowhere.
September 4th, 2012 at 6:14 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 4th, 2012 at 5:59 am
DVD’s new name is Beta Max.
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What no LOLs? Come on guys! That was the funny! Maybe you too young to get reference.
September 4th, 2012 at 6:14 am
Love our D-Line their great but man that LB core and Secondary wow. Slowlando is a leader of nothing but missed plays and taking the wrong gap, hope he does get suspended and D plays much better.
GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!
September 4th, 2012 at 6:15 am
Bob Marley Says:
September 4th, 2012 at 6:12 am
TxRaider210 Says:
This issue was beat to hell and back yesterday.
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Sorry man, but I wasn’t here yesterday and as DVD supporter, I had to say my piece and post 269 says it all.
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You have valid points man, and I also think DVD has talent, just wished he was more diverse and ST ready.
September 4th, 2012 at 6:15 am
Klas,
I missed that somehow, I’ll give you a big LOL. Quality stuff right there.
September 4th, 2012 at 6:16 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 4th, 2012 at 6:11 am
DVD is a one trick pony, the guys brought in can play ST also, which was looking horrible in pre-season. I believe that is the main reason DVD is gone.
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Yup, maybe DVD is on the roster right now if our ST’s didn’t blow so bad in the preseason.
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Well said
September 4th, 2012 at 6:16 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 4th, 2012 at 6:14 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 4th, 2012 at 5:59 am
DVD’s new name is Beta Max.
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What no LOLs? Come on guys! That was the funny! Maybe you too young to get reference.
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LOL What’s good in the land of Trolls and Reindeer Klas?
September 4th, 2012 at 6:17 am
Bob Marley Says:
September 4th, 2012 at 6:04 am
Listen, Reggie, DA and the rest of the organization made their call on DVD, I can live with it because I have high hopes for them, DVD is not a deal-breaker for me, I just think developing talent is a huge part of their job and DVD was worth keeping over Coye Francies.
A ton of people wanted DHB cut last year, we waited and it paid off, it’s not unreasonable to expect DVD to improve too.
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I agree but a player has to be coachable to be developed. DHB is very coachable. DVD isnt. You cant put that on the coaches.
September 4th, 2012 at 6:17 am
Biggest surprise of cutdown time for me: no Dominique Hamilton on the practice squad. I thought he did well enough to at least warrant that.
September 4th, 2012 at 6:18 am
And as for the DVD = DHB arguments, remember that DHB became an adequate (not great) starting receiver in his third year. DVD was beginning his second. So you’re looking at burning a roster spot for an entire season in the hope that DVD could be a good corner in 2013. Also, remember that CB isn’t WR. You can keep a substandard wideout in your starting lineup and only hurt your offense a little. A substandard corner, on the other hand, will get you killed.
September 4th, 2012 at 6:20 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
September 4th, 2012 at 6:17 am
Biggest surprise of cutdown time for me: no Dominique Hamilton on the practice squad. I thought he did well enough to at least warrant that.
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That surprised a little as well. Guess Meatoga showed more upside or something.
September 4th, 2012 at 6:21 am
Backstageatapuppetshow Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 2:56 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
September 3rd, 2012 at 2:51 pm
Backstage,
To be clear, I am NOT a fan of the WCO. I never cared for it much, nor do I think it takes advantage of Carson Palmer’s skills.
Carson proved last year he can get this offense vertical and make big plays with the passing game. That is teh offense I want to see.
But we don’t get what we want. Hopefully Carson plays at a high standard with the dink and dunk offense we are going deploy. I also agree that DMAC should balance things out.
However, I stand by my words that Knapp is here for the long-term….at the least, he will get more chances to fail than those on the roster.
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Well Said.
I share your concerns regarding Palmer and his ability in this scheme.
However, maybe you and I are wrong. Carson is a smart guy, and he likes the scheme, so I have to have faith in him and in his ability to know what best suits him.
Just because he hasn’t succeeded in this scheme up to this point is no reason to think he cannot execute it….he hasn’t failed yet at it either.
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My observation is that Carson is not athletic enough to run Knapps WCO. Every successfull WCO that I remember had an athletic QB running it. Montana-49ers, Young-49ers, Rodgers-Packers, Vick-Eagles, Mcnabb-Eagles, our guy Gannon-Raiders, Favre-Packers, Favre-Vikings, Cunningham-Vikings. You must also remember that when we had Gannon, Gruden was our HC and he installed the WCO. Gannon was athletic enough to run it. I cannot remember all the coaches of the above mentioned teams,,,but I can gaurantee you that like Knapp they are from the Bill Walsh learning tree of WCO. And the important point is that those QB’s were athletic enough to get out the pocket, and still make accurate throws down the field on the move. Im not sure Palmer has that ability. For him to be successful Knapp must also run some traditional or standard stuff.
September 4th, 2012 at 6:23 am
JamesPlunkett Says:
September 4th, 2012 at 6:14 am
Love our D-Line their great but man that LB core and Secondary wow. Slowlando is a leader of nothing but missed plays and taking the wrong gap, hope he does get suspended and D plays much better.
GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!
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Our Linebackers and secondary will improve because we have DA and JT who are experts at those positions
September 4th, 2012 at 6:25 am
I THINK MONDAY EVENING IS KEY 4 THIS ORGANISATION IN SEVERAL ASPECTS.BEING A DIVISION GAME ASIDE,THE WHOLE NEW REGIME STARTING OFF WITH A WIN ON NATIONAL TV..AND MENTALY FOR THE TEAM TO START WITH A WIN WILL BE HUGE IMO..
September 4th, 2012 at 6:25 am
RaiderDuck Says:
And as for the DVD = DHB arguments, remember that DHB became an adequate (not great) starting receiver in his third year. DVD was beginning his second. So you’re looking at burning a roster spot for an entire season in the hope that DVD could be a good corner in 2013.
Also, remember that CB isn’t WR. You can keep a substandard wideout in your starting lineup and only hurt your offense a little. A substandard corner, on the other hand, will get you killed.
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What?.
DVD won’t see a 2nd season for us, there’s no telling how he would have fared.
Nobody says DVD should have been in the staring lineup.
DVD’s numbers in his 4 starts and part-time play last year were not sub-standard, look it up in post 269.
September 4th, 2012 at 6:27 am
RaiderDuck Says:
September 4th, 2012 at 6:18 am
And as for the DVD = DHB arguments, remember that DHB became an adequate (not great) starting receiver in his third year. DVD was beginning his second. So you’re looking at burning a roster spot for an entire season in the hope that DVD could be a good corner in 2013. Also, remember that CB isn’t WR. You can keep a substandard wideout in your starting lineup and only hurt your offense a little. A substandard corner, on the other hand, will get you killed.
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Best post of the night
September 4th, 2012 at 6:27 am
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Our Linebackers and secondary will improve because we have DA and JT who are experts at those positions
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Yep. I look at it this way: Miles Burris is a 4th round rookie the coaching staff likes enough to start.
There was no signing a veteran when Curry’s knees didn’t heal, no panic trade for another guy. As DA says, there’ll be growing pains, but if they trust the kid enough to start after 1 training camp then he can only get better under their tutelage.
Wheeler is awesome. To me, the defense depends on McClain. I saw a lot of good in the pre-season, but also a lot of bad. I have to assume Tarver is smart enough to scheme the defense to hide McClain’s weaknesses and highlight his strengths.
September 4th, 2012 at 6:28 am
RaiderDuck.
A substandard corner, on the other hand, will get you killed.
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Yes, and did DVD get us killed last year? you know he started 4 games and played in many others, he did not get us killed, he actually played very decent football for a raw rookie.
September 4th, 2012 at 6:33 am
319.Bob Marley Says:
September 4th, 2012 at 6:28 am
RaiderDuck.
A substandard corner, on the other hand, will get you killed.
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Yes, and did DVD get us killed last year? you know he started 4 games and played in many others, he did not get us killed, he actually played very decent football for a raw rookie.
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DVD was/is still raw. Right now he’s still more of an athlete playing football. That just doesn’t fit into the philosophy Reggie and Coach Allen have brought to the organization. You can agree or disagree with that thinking, but that’s the reality.
Think of it: right now, other than Terrelle Pryor (who can be safely stashed as 3rd string QB with no detriment to the team) can you name one guy on the roster who you’d describe as a “raw project” or “a guy with all the athletic gifts who just needs to put it together” or any of the other phrases we heard about a lot of Al Davis’s draft picks?
There’s maybe Bilukidi. That’s all I can come up with.
Basically Reggie and DA don’t want to have to develop long term projects. They want guys with a certain minimum level of *football* skills, not just atheltic ability. Compare and contrast Miles Burris and DVD, for instance.
September 4th, 2012 at 6:34 am
LOL What’s good in the land of Trolls and Reindeer Klas?
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Out of town for business. Just watching some good quality Swedish porn in hotel room.
September 4th, 2012 at 6:36 am
We’re sending a good message with this cuts ..perform now or find another team
September 4th, 2012 at 6:39 am
DVD just failed the eye test, plain and simple.
For all his “great” training camp practices he was reported to have, he still didn’t see the field until late in the games to start the preseason, and than didn’t even really play well.
Hopefully a well-earned lesson to those on here who LOOOOOOOOVE to overreact on practice tweets.
Jerry Mac and Corky, for all their brilliance, aren’t looking at the same things as the coaching staff.
September 4th, 2012 at 6:41 am
Bob Marley Says:
September 4th, 2012 at 6:28 am
RaiderDuck.
A substandard corner, on the other hand, will get you killed.
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Yes, and did DVD get us killed last year? you know he started 4 games and played in many others, he did not get us killed, he actually played very decent football for a raw rookie.
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But you can bet teams ran toward his side more because he can’t stick his nose against the run and can’t tackle any1 to save his life.. Are we trying to improve our team or trying to tell other teams .. Here we have DVD on this side so you can run on that side and get automatic 1st down ?
September 4th, 2012 at 6:41 am
Look guys, you can throw every argument out there against DVD, some are very valid, but the fact is he played and graded well as a rookie while Coye Francies was out of the NFL in 2011 and most of 2010.
September 4th, 2012 at 6:43 am
325.Bob Marley Says:
September 4th, 2012 at 6:41 am
Look guys, you can throw every argument out there against DVD, some are very valid, but the fact is he played and graded well as a rookie while Coye Francies was out of the NFL in 2011 and most of 2010.
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I’ll trust Reggie and Coach Allen’s judgment here more than Pro Football Outsiders or whoever, honestly.
September 4th, 2012 at 6:44 am
Klas trusts Dennis Allen’s judgement on DBs. He should know.
September 4th, 2012 at 6:44 am
Let’s talk about Willie Smith…good pickup. Feel much better about our o-line depth now in the event of a Barnes or Veldheer injury.
September 4th, 2012 at 6:45 am
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
September 4th, 2012 at 6:25 am
I THINK MONDAY EVENING IS KEY 4 THIS ORGANISATION IN SEVERAL ASPECTS.BEING A DIVISION GAME ASIDE,THE WHOLE NEW REGIME STARTING OFF WITH A WIN ON NATIONAL TV..AND MENTALY FOR THE TEAM TO START WITH A WIN WILL BE HUGE IMO..
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Co-sign Dirt
We may be stating to obvious but it is the key. Need a big win and a well coached and played game. Want a positive feeling when i shut off the T.V. this night. Not the we won but got lucky or looked like crap feeling. IMPORTANT!!
September 4th, 2012 at 6:46 am
No worries Dirt lot and Jesusraider…Phyllis is a dead (wo)man walking.
September 4th, 2012 at 6:47 am
I think it was a tough call to cut DVD, but Reggie and DA didn’t think they could get him up to speed, the type of play they needed on gameday to keep him. He was either going to step up his game or be let go because his special teams work sucked. And DVD could be a starter somewhere on another team that does have some extra room to develop him. His faults can be corrected and remember how he was tearing it up in camp. None of us were there to see what the beat reporters were saying about DVD making plays everywhere. I hope this cut wasn’t premature given there a number of other players that should have been more vulnerable. And I still think DVD could be a waiver wire gem for some team patient to develop him.
But I am very excited about acquiring an established nickel corner in Hansen and it’s a major upgrade to get him. It feels like a day one free agent signing, except at minimal cost and risk. I continue to trust the REGGIME.
September 4th, 2012 at 6:48 am
Expect a new player on the team every week , because every week is going to be a serious from now on , if a player who’s not ranked pretty high on our team mess up , you can bet he will be replaced with some one else the next week
September 4th, 2012 at 6:51 am
My observation is that Carson is not athletic enough to run Knapps WCO. Every successfull WCO that I remember had an athletic QB running it. Montana-49ers, Young-49ers, Rodgers-Packers, Vick-Eagles, Mcnabb-Eagles, our guy Gannon-Raiders, Favre-Packers, Favre-Vikings, Cunningham-Vikings. You must also remember that when we had Gannon, Gruden was our HC and he installed the WCO. Gannon was athletic enough to run it. I cannot remember all the coaches of the above mentioned teams,,,but I can gaurantee you that like Knapp they are from the Bill Walsh learning tree of WCO. And the important point is that those QB’s were athletic enough to get out the pocket, and still make accurate throws down the field on the move. Im not sure Palmer has that ability. For him to be successful Knapp must also run some traditional or standard stuff.
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My concern too. Why wouldn’t they build it to Palmers strength? When Pryor is ready, they can modify it to fit Pryor. However, TP will be versatile enough to run any system. Knapp needs a brighter light bulb upsatairs.
September 4th, 2012 at 6:52 am
I’ll trust Reggie and Coach Allen’s judgment here more than Pro Football Outsiders or whoever, honestly.
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Me too. Individual grades are overrated sometimes and in this case, DVD didn’t fit the scheme they were trying to run. He was a liability that opposing OC’s could scheme against. The fact that DVD had limited success in last year’s scheme is inapplicable to this new scheme. Perhaps DVD would still be around and not a liability if we had the old scheme still in place, but we dont. So using old grades based on old schemes of fired defensive coordinators is moot.
September 4th, 2012 at 6:54 am
Bob Marley Says:
September 4th, 2012 at 6:41 am
Look guys, you can throw every argument out there against DVD, some are very valid, but the fact is he played and graded well as a rookie while Coye Francies was out of the NFL in 2011 and most of 2010.
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But Coye Francies can help our special teams which was pretty bad in Pre-season … You want to just ignore special teams for some one who won’t contribute much on our team this year because he have potential to help us in the future ? Lmao
September 4th, 2012 at 6:55 am
McFadden 20 says:
But you can bet teams ran toward his side more because he can’t stick his nose against the run and can’t tackle any1 to save his life.. Are we trying to improve our team or trying to tell other teams .. Here we have DVD on this side so you can run on that side and get automatic 1st down?.
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Well, let’s look at the numbers buddy.
In the 4 games DVD started we gave up 70 rushing yards to the NFL’s leading rushing team Houston, then 65 to Cleveland, 139 to KC and 299 on the Denver debacle, that’s an average of 143 rushing yards with DVD starting, including 2 of the best performances of the year (Hou and Cle).
The rest of the games without DVD starting we gave up 133, so it’s just a 10 yard difference due mainly to the Denver game (playing without the much maligned McLain by the way).
September 4th, 2012 at 6:56 am
Special teams has been pretty bad and the end-of-the-roster guys who are depth need to contribute at a high level to justify their jobs. And they didn’t. Reggie McK went out and fortified the special teams and weeded out what needed to be weeded. Good job!
September 4th, 2012 at 6:57 am
Guest123 Says:
September 4th, 2012 at 6:52 am
I’ll trust Reggie and Coach Allen’s judgment here more than Pro Football Outsiders or whoever, honestly.
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Me too. Individual grades are overrated sometimes and in this case, DVD didn’t fit the scheme they were trying to run. He was a liability that opposing OC’s could scheme against. The fact that DVD had limited success in last year’s scheme is inapplicable to this new scheme. Perhaps DVD would still be around and not a liability if we had the old scheme still in place, but we dont. So using old grades based on old schemes of fired defensive coordinators is moot.
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Good post
September 4th, 2012 at 6:58 am
Guest123.
But I am very excited about acquiring an established nickel corner in Hansen and it’s a major upgrade to get him. It feels like a day one free agent signing, except at minimal cost and risk. I continue to trust the REGGIME.
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Me too, Hanson appears to be a very good pickup and we needed a Slot CB badly, my beef is not with the Hanson signing, it’s with keeping Coye Francis over DVD.
September 4th, 2012 at 7:00 am
McFadden 20.
But Coye Francies can help our special teams which was pretty bad in Pre-season … You want to just ignore special teams for some one who won’t contribute much on our team this year because he have potential to help us in the future ? Lmao.
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Lmao at Coye Francies being some kind of Special Teams savior….if he was such a Special Teams standout, why was he out of the League for almost the entire 2010 and 2011 seasons?…he could not even stick as a ST guy before.
September 4th, 2012 at 7:01 am
Marley,
I can agree with you that DVD is a better prospect than Francis. But in the immediate future, Francis brings more to the table than DVD. More versatile and shores up multiple needs while DVD is the definition of a “Scholarship” player. We may kick ourselves if he develops somewhere into an Asomugha type corner, but Reggie has to make those types of calls.
September 4th, 2012 at 7:03 am
Take Pat Lee, a major bust as 2nd Round CB who earned his keep by becoming a good Special Teams player for GB over the last 2 seasons, that’s a guy worth keeping…..Francies? not so sure, didn’t make it as CB and didn’t make it in ST’s either.
September 4th, 2012 at 7:03 am
Bob Marley Says:
September 4th, 2012 at 6:55 am
McFadden 20 says:
But you can bet teams ran toward his side more because he can’t stick his nose against the run and can’t tackle any1 to save his life.. Are we trying to improve our team or trying to tell other teams .. Here we have DVD on this side so you can run on that side and get automatic 1st down?.
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Well, let’s look at the numbers buddy.
In the 4 games DVD started we gave up 70 rushing yards to the NFL’s leading rushing team Houston, then 65 to Cleveland, 139 to KC and 299 on the Denver debacle, that’s an average of 143 rushing yards with DVD starting, including 2 of the best performances of the year (Hou and Cle).
The rest of the games without DVD starting we gave up 133, so it’s just a 10 yard difference due mainly to the Denver game (playing without the much maligned McLain by the way).
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But you can’t ignore the fact that he is a liability against the run and we’re trying to improve in that area .. You can’t ignore DVD pissed away his chance in Pre season against 2nd and 3rd stringers , you can’t ignore he can’t play special teams … So why again should Reg and company keep him over guys who can do something on D or in special teams
September 4th, 2012 at 7:05 am
I’m not so sure that Franies isn’t dangling at the end of the roster bubble, and upgraded at a moment’s notice when someone better comes along. It’s the cruel truth of life in the NFL. Reggie is going to be very active in flipping the roster and remolding it like a big blob of clay.
September 4th, 2012 at 7:07 am
Bob Marley Says:
September 4th, 2012 at 7:00 am
McFadden 20.
But Coye Francies can help our special teams which was pretty bad in Pre-season … You want to just ignore special teams for some one who won’t contribute much on our team this year because he have potential to help us in the future ? Lmao.
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Lmao at Coye Francies being some kind of Special Teams savior….if he was such a Special Teams standout, why was he out of the League for almost the entire 2010 and 2011 seasons?…he could not even stick as a ST guy before.
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Dude was unlucky with injuries and trouble with the law … But he can still contribute and stick his nose and is not shy from tackling … It doesn’t matter wether they kept DVD or Francies … They both weren’t going to play on D much but the fact is one could return kicks and can play special teams even if he’s not that good at it .. The other can’t do that at all
September 4th, 2012 at 7:08 am
Most important thought should be on our minds is second string RB. It seems everyone has forgotten he hasn’t played a whole season, yet! We have to get a real 2nd string up and coming back. There is no reason the raiders should have there season depend on darren. No reason
September 4th, 2012 at 7:09 am
McFadden 20.
So why again should Reg and company keep him over guys who can do something on D or in special teams?.
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I assume you’re talking about Francies because that’s the guy I’m focusing on, I have no beef with the others.
So what has Francies done in D or ST’s during his 8 NFL games in 3 years?…certainly not impress, otherwise he would have been able to keep a job.
September 4th, 2012 at 7:10 am
Guest123 Says:
September 4th, 2012 at 7:05 am
I’m not so sure that Franies isn’t dangling at the end of the roster bubble, and upgraded at a moment’s notice when someone better comes along. It’s the cruel truth of life in the NFL. Reggie is going to be very active in flipping the roster and remolding it like a big blob of clay.
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Good post , he’s going to be counted upon making plays in special teams , if he can’t do it .. They will find some one who will do better
September 4th, 2012 at 7:14 am
Bob Marley Says:
September 4th, 2012 at 7:09 am
McFadden 20.
So why again should Reg and company keep him over guys who can do something on D or in special teams?.
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I assume you’re talking about Francies because that’s the guy I’m focusing on, I have no beef with the others.
So what has Francies done in D or ST’s during his 8 NFL games in 3 years?…certainly not impress, otherwise he would have been able to keep a job.
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I don’t know his track record but Reg and DA kept him so they might have seen something in him , I’m just saying that he can contribute to our teams in some way or the other .. He might not be the best at it but he can still show something on the other hand , you can’t count on DVD to play on special tEams ..hes too weak for everything that comes with blocking and tackling
September 4th, 2012 at 7:16 am
Reggie is not infallable and will make mistakes. We always think we know more than the GM or that we are able to pick better guys for the team than they do, and sometimes we do…I know I do.
I wanted Adrian Peterson when he was for the taking..who’d we get…Huff? I can’t remember which yr. it was.
I wanted Crabtree over DHB…so did everyone else, but it looks like when the smoke clears…Al was right.
GM’s..even Reggie, aren’t perfect and it’s ok to question his moves…that’s what we do here all the time. That’s what happens on a blog like this.
I think Burris will turn out to be a great pick for instance.
September 4th, 2012 at 7:17 am
Ok then, moving on.
I read that some people expect Pat Lee to handle Slot CB and not Joselio Hanson, I don’t agree.
Pat Lee hasn’t even played Defense for GB, in 4 years he logged just 200 snaps, in 2011 he played just 21 snaps.
He’ll rock on ST’s and that’s good enough, let Hanson handle the Slot.
September 4th, 2012 at 7:18 am
Francies is being counted upon to return kicks as well, which DVD can’t do either , if he pisses away that opportunity they will simply just bring in some one who they think could do Better but u can bet they won’t just bring in Sumone who they can waste a roster spot on ,in hope of seeing that player become good next year
September 4th, 2012 at 7:20 am
I have not heard any “experts” give any valid reason why Burris was a stretch.
“He’s undersized” i’ve heard. Really? Ha.
He’s bigger that Harrison of Pitt. Lance Briggs of Chi. and many other top lb’s.
A little bit shorter than Clay Mathews I guess but not by much.
Size is not the issue with Burris. Solid pick.
September 4th, 2012 at 7:22 am
Bob Marley Says:
September 4th, 2012 at 7:17 am
Ok then, moving on.
I read that some people expect Pat Lee to handle Slot CB and not Joselio Hanson, I don’t agree.
Pat Lee hasn’t even played Defense for GB, in 4 years he logged just 200 snaps, in 2011 he played just 21 snaps.
He’ll rock on ST’s and that’s good enough, let Hanson handle the Slot.
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I didn’t hear his name much in Pre-season , which is a good thing for any CB .. He was close enough to make few plays on the ball though ..I think he’s a lock for slot or 4th but I feel better with Joselios controlling slot
September 4th, 2012 at 7:23 am
I’m out, nice talking to you fellas….check back tonight to see what followed….have a good one.
September 4th, 2012 at 7:23 am
Bob Marley, If Joselio was acquired few months earlier does that deal get talked about as one of the big acquisitions of the offseason for us?
September 4th, 2012 at 7:24 am
DJ Johnny Says:
September 4th, 2012 at 7:20 am
I have not heard any “experts” give any valid reason why Burris was a stretch.
“He’s undersized” i’ve heard. Really? Ha.
He’s bigger that Harrison of Pitt. Lance Briggs of Chi. and many other top lb’s.
A little bit shorter than Clay Mathews I guess but not by much.
Size is not the issue with Burris. Solid pick.
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This draft may turn out to be pretty good … our Undrafted pickups weren’t as bad either, I likes draft already , we will see how it turns out in the next 3 years
September 4th, 2012 at 7:24 am
post 350. I’m confused. Yes, I understand that Reggie will make his share of mistakes. But all those picks you mentioned were Al Davis picks. And Al Davis had his share of good picks as well. With a short draft list Reggie was able to get pretty much maxiumum return on investment by keeping all but one draft pick and that guy is going to develop on the practice squad. Not a bad haul at all, considering the multitude of high draft pick cuts out there on other teams.
September 4th, 2012 at 7:26 am
Bob Marley Says:
September 4th, 2012 at 7:23 am
I’m out, nice talking to you fellas….check back tonight to see what followed….have a good one.
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See you
September 4th, 2012 at 7:27 am
I agree with Marley on our starting slot corner. Pat Lee is caretaking the position along with Huff until Hansen gets a few playbook sessions and practices under his belt. He should be good to go as our starter very soon.
September 4th, 2012 at 7:28 am
Guest123 Says:
September 4th, 2012 at 7:24 am
post 350. I’m confused. Yes, I understand that Reggie will make his share of mistakes. But all those picks you mentioned were Al Davis picks. And Al Davis had his share of good picks as well. With a short draft list Reggie was able to get pretty much maxiumum return on investment by keeping all but one draft pick and that guy is going to develop on the practice squad. Not a bad haul at all, considering the multitude of high draft pick cuts out there on other teams.
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We need to give that guy raise who scout the Wide Receivers for us … Ford , Moore , Streater and Criner
September 4th, 2012 at 7:30 am
Guest123 Says:
September 4th, 2012 at 7:27 am
I agree with Marley on our starting slot corner. Pat Lee is caretaking the position along with Huff until Hansen gets a few playbook sessions and practices under his belt. He should be good to go as our starter very soon.
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Yeah we can’t forget about huff helping at CB in a pinch..I feel better about our secondary now
September 4th, 2012 at 7:33 am
DA is right , he wants the team to get better every day and I really think we’re getting better with every move in one way or the another
September 4th, 2012 at 7:34 am
“Recently signd offensive tackle Willie Smith started three games for the Washington Redskins last season. The Raiders were thrilled by the prospect of having a promising offensive lineman fall into their laps after the Redskins waived Smith Friday.
Athletic, long arms, comes from the same type of system, so the learning curve shouldn’t be that difficult,” Allen said. “He’s really an athletic talent at the tackle position.”
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One of the knocks on our OL depth has been lack of athleticism. I think this Smith guy is an upgrade to Barks who is a mystery why he’s still on the roster. ZBS requires long, atheletic big men who can shuffle side to side quickly and Smith is versatile on either side of the line. He was thrown in last year as a rookie UFDA and it doesn’t make much sense that Shanahan just gave up on him. But we can be happy that he did.
September 4th, 2012 at 7:35 am
Go Raiders !!
September 4th, 2012 at 7:36 am
Guest123 Says:
September 4th, 2012 at 7:34 am
“Recently signd offensive tackle Willie Smith started three games for the Washington Redskins last season. The Raiders were thrilled by the prospect of having a promising offensive lineman fall into their laps after the Redskins waived Smith Friday.
Athletic, long arms, comes from the same type of system, so the learning curve shouldn’t be that difficult,” Allen said. “He’s really an athletic talent at the tackle position.”
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One of the knocks on our OL depth has been lack of athleticism. I think this Smith guy is an upgrade to Barks who is a mystery why he’s still on the roster. ZBS requires long, atheletic big men who can shuffle side to side quickly and Smith is versatile on either side of the line. He was thrown in last year as a rookie UFDA and it doesn’t make much sense that Shanahan just gave up on him. But we can be happy that he did.
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We will move Barks too if/ when we find a better replacement
September 4th, 2012 at 7:39 am
We need to find a replacement for Goodson I like the kid , he can play special teams but we also need to find a better back up for McFadden
September 4th, 2012 at 7:40 am
McFadden20,
I’m feeling good about this secondary too. The D as a whole will get it done.
A soon as Wheeler signs that extension, the jersey will be on order!
September 4th, 2012 at 7:41 am
Taiwan Jones is our current back up and can play special teams but his injury history concerns me .
September 4th, 2012 at 7:43 am
I’m glad to hear that Reggie at least tried to get an upgrade at backup RB for DJ Ware who ended up awarded to Tampa. Shows that at least he’s trying and not sleeping on his roster. Reggie’s not satisfied with the RB’s on the roster and at the very least it sends a signal to Goodson to step up or else.
September 4th, 2012 at 7:45 am
The only concern i have about the O and Knapp is the dinking and dunking. Calling routes for 5 yards when we need 9.
I know the preseason, he’s not going to show his hand, but it does concern me.
For instance under 2 minutes for the Det game. He was dinking and dunking, taking his time getting plays called in. He should have been spreading the field and attacking (huury up O)! Again, just hoping he didn’t want to show that much.
I’m so pumped for the season opener! Wouldn’t it be insane to just down right dominate in prime time again?! Let’s do this!
September 4th, 2012 at 7:48 am
Deja Vu Says:
September 4th, 2012 at 7:40 am
McFadden20,
I’m feeling good about this secondary too. The D as a whole will get it done.
A soon as Wheeler signs that extension, the jersey will be on order!
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Wheeler looks really good so far , i like his energy, he really likes playing in this scheme .. He got the speed to cover TEs and Rbs outta the backfield .. He can blitz too .. Solid pickup
September 4th, 2012 at 7:51 am
Guest123 Says:
September 4th, 2012 at 7:43 am
I’m glad to hear that Reggie at least tried to get an upgrade at backup RB for DJ Ware who ended up awarded to Tampa. Shows that at least he’s trying and not sleeping on his roster. Reggie’s not satisfied with the RB’s on the roster and at the very least it sends a signal to Goodson to step up or else.
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It would have been awesome to get him but as long as McFadden stays healthy we should be fine
September 4th, 2012 at 7:53 am
Mcfadden20. Says:
September 4th, 2012 at 7:51 am
Guest123 Says:
September 4th, 2012 at 7:43 am
I’m glad to hear that Reggie at least tried to get an upgrade at backup RB for DJ Ware who ended up awarded to Tampa. Shows that at least he’s trying and not sleeping on his roster. Reggie’s not satisfied with the RB’s on the roster and at the very least it sends a signal to Goodson to step up or else.
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It would have been awesome to get him but as long as McFadden stays healthy we should be fine
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I hope McFadden goes over 2,000 rushing yards , over 600 yards receiving then I can be proud of my first Raiders jersey ever ..Go McFadden Lol
September 4th, 2012 at 7:55 am
I wonder if fans on other teams’ blogs spend so much time debating 3rd string project QBs, and marginal CBs who couldn’t even hold their starting spot in college who end up getting cut?
Go Raider Nation! Passion!
September 4th, 2012 at 7:57 am
What’s really exciting about this team is that it’s only a couple of upgrades away from becoming annual SUperbowl contenders ..and I mean it ..I’m not drinking kool-aid …
We have good young players at most positions … Just hope Palmer gives us a few good years .. We can draft a QB of the future next year and groom him Ala Rodgers .. We can drAft a Solid CB next year .. probably a solid back up for McFadden as well
September 4th, 2012 at 7:58 am
I know the only defense in the NFL that made Ryan Grant look good last year was ours, but does the guy have anything left?
I am worried about our RB situation.
DJ Ware would have been nice, but we missed on him. We should have picked up Benson….Reggie?!?!?!?!
September 4th, 2012 at 8:00 am
Dakota Says:
September 4th, 2012 at 7:55 am
I wonder if fans on other teams’ blogs spend so much time debating 3rd string project QBs, and marginal CBs who couldn’t even hold their starting spot in college who end up getting cut?
Go Raider Nation! Passion!
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So true man lol , and we can only allow 53 players .. If we can keep 70 or more players then we can keep these potential players on the team , but since all roster positions are valuable we can’t afford to keep someone who can’t play this year
September 4th, 2012 at 8:02 am
Dakota Says:
September 4th, 2012 at 7:58 am
I know the only defense in the NFL that made Ryan Grant look good last year was ours, but does the guy have anything left?
I am worried about our RB situation.
DJ Ware would have been nice, but we missed on him. We should have picked up Benson….Reggie?!?!?!?!
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We had interest in him but he said he went to Packers because he want to play for a SUperbowl not just 1 play off game .. f…. Him
September 4th, 2012 at 8:04 am
Ryan grant got nothing left, that’s why he went Niners to be their 3r or 4th rb
September 4th, 2012 at 8:04 am
Deja Vu Says:
September 4th, 2012 at 7:45 am
The only concern i have about the O and Knapp is the dinking and dunking. Calling routes for 5 yards when we need 9.
I know the preseason, he’s not going to show his hand, but it does concern me.
For instance under 2 minutes for the Det game. He was dinking and dunking, taking his time getting plays called in. He should have been spreading the field and attacking (huury up O)! Again, just hoping he didn’t want to show that much.
I’m so pumped for the season opener! Wouldn’t it be insane to just down right dominate in prime time again?! Let’s do this!
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Its a legit concern, because Knapp is extremely conservative…and past experience tells me he will not adjust and make the necessary adjustments, and force the opponents defense to make plays down the field. We have the weapons but the combination of Palmer running Knapps offense, tells me there will be a lot of INTS. Plamer is a PLAY-ACTION-FAKE QB. Not WCO type.
September 4th, 2012 at 8:05 am
Ryan Grant 6′1″, 222 lbs, only 29 years old, averaged 4.2 yards per carry last year…..why isn’t this guy a Raider yet? Or on some team like the Lions?
Reggie must know something about his health or his mental status.
September 4th, 2012 at 8:07 am
380.mcfadden20. Says:
September 4th, 2012 at 8:04 am
Ryan grant got nothing left, that’s why he went Niners to be their 3r or 4th rb
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Ryan Grant signed with the 49ers?
September 4th, 2012 at 8:08 am
Benson’s a gey bum. Didn’t want him then and don’t want him now or ever. He’s going to be a suckwad in GB.
September 4th, 2012 at 8:10 am
Ryan Brett Grant (born December 9, 1982) is a NFL running back who is currently a clerk at Payless Shoes in Aberdeen, South Dakota, coincidentally the same store that former NFL player Tyler Palko also works at. The store managers are John Earles, Josh Knox, Adam Blair and Jason Perdue who like lending a helping hand to sad NFL talent. He was originally signed by the New York Giants as an undrafted free agent in 2005 but was traded to the Packers shortly before the 2007 season in exchange for a future sixth-round draft pick. He played college football at Notre Dame, under head coaches Bob Davie and Tyrone Willingham, where he rushed for over 2,000 yards and 18 touchdowns.[1]
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From Ryan Grant’s WIKI page.
lol
September 4th, 2012 at 8:13 am
Ryan Ryan Ryan….you received a free ND education and you find yourself at Payless shoes in Aberdeen, SD?
Reggie, bail this kid out!
September 4th, 2012 at 8:24 am
Sorry gents, had to run for a bit. I’d like Hanson to play the slot against those smaller quicker WR’s, wouldn’t want a guy too tall covering them.imo
September 4th, 2012 at 8:25 am
Good morning gents,
Thank you RM for cutting DVD. Kid was a disaster and a lousy draft pick by Al D.
September 4th, 2012 at 8:25 am
If the 9ers got Grant I don’t care, they’re also smart enough to list Randy as a starting WR, too funny!
September 4th, 2012 at 8:25 am
Wow the game is In less than a week .. This is what we waited for all this time , this is what we argued for all summer long I can’t wait
September 4th, 2012 at 8:26 am
Grants not in sf.
September 4th, 2012 at 8:28 am
Guest123 Says:
September 4th, 2012 at 8:10 am
Ryan Brett Grant (born December 9, 1982) is a NFL running back who is currently a clerk at Payless Shoes in Aberdeen, South Dakota, coincidentally the same store that former NFL player Tyler Palko also works at. The store managers are John Earles, Josh Knox, Adam Blair and Jason Perdue who like lending a helping hand to sad NFL talent. He was originally signed by the New York Giants as an undrafted free agent in 2005 but was traded to the Packers shortly before the 2007 season in exchange for a future sixth-round draft pick. He played college football at Notre Dame, under head coaches Bob Davie and Tyrone Willingham, where he rushed for over 2,000 yards and 18 touchdowns.[1]
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From Ryan Grant’s WIKI page.
lol
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Roflmao
September 4th, 2012 at 8:29 am
If we sign a vet with injury probs it will be after sunday so his deal wont be guarenteed.
September 4th, 2012 at 8:30 am
Marks Hair Says:
September 4th, 2012 at 8:26 am
Grants not in sf.
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Might not b with them after the cuts but I’m pretty sure he did sign with them in off-season
September 4th, 2012 at 8:34 am
So reg replaced 13 guys on d.. and allen changed everything the d does.. i say good start.
September 4th, 2012 at 8:34 am
I’m really wondering what Is the real plan for T Pryor does the team really have confidence in him or will they get him to convert to another position ..I really want the kid to succeed and I like his work ethic
September 4th, 2012 at 8:34 am
Wouldn’t surprise me to see Willie Smith make more of an impact this year than Tony Bergstrom. The hope is for Bergstrom to eventually take over for Coop, but Smith is already leapfrogging both Barks and Bergs on depth chart for either outside tackle spot. Nice signing again there big REG!
September 4th, 2012 at 8:37 am
Great Morning Nation!
Blessed to be alive..
And to have my boy Joselio on the roster!!
September 4th, 2012 at 8:37 am
I agree with Bob M, and I said it yesterday. I think cutting DVD who has potential after one season and keeping C Francis who showed he has no potential after being in the league a few years is a mistake IMO.
September 4th, 2012 at 8:40 am
3 moves that I don’t agree with:
1- Hiring Knapp
2- Drafting the 26 YO rookie OG
3- cutting DVD
September 4th, 2012 at 8:40 am
Grants been a fa all summer. Your thinking of rock carwright.
September 4th, 2012 at 8:41 am
Raider O Says:
September 4th, 2012 at 8:40 am
3 moves that I don’t agree with:
1- Hiring Knapp
2- Drafting the 26 YO rookie OG
3- cutting DVD
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Who would you have drafted?
September 4th, 2012 at 8:42 am
Marks hair Says:
September 4th, 2012 at 8:40 am
Grants been a fa all summer. Your thinking of rock carwright.
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Grant said he has turned down 3, 1 year vet. min. deals..
Thats why he isnt signed, not too much to do with health.
September 4th, 2012 at 8:43 am
Carrying DVD on the 53 man roster was a luxury that Reggie could not afford. If the team was deeper and had fewer holes, than maybe he could keep him and attmept to coach him up. But they did an entire offseason, OTA, and camp evaluation with game footage and found his flaws to be too big and his potential too far into the future to hold any hope for him. He’s got NFL talent and could reach his potential, but too much of a project for a team that is preaching fundamentals and discipline and a need for ballhawks on defense.
September 4th, 2012 at 8:44 am
guest123 Says:
September 4th, 2012 at 8:43 am
Carrying DVD on the 53 man roster was a luxury that Reggie could not afford. If the team was deeper and had fewer holes, than maybe he could keep him and attmept to coach him up. But they did an entire offseason, OTA, and camp evaluation with game footage and found his flaws to be too big and his potential too far into the future to hold any hope for him. He’s got NFL talent and could reach his potential, but too much of a project for a team that is preaching fundamentals and discipline and a need for ballhawks on defense.
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Exactly.
Spot on.
September 4th, 2012 at 8:46 am
If bergs is a good player age doesnt matter. Its all about finding good players at that point in the draft.
September 4th, 2012 at 8:48 am
Raider O Says:
September 4th, 2012 at 8:40 am
3 moves that I don’t agree with:
1- Hiring Knapp
2- Drafting the 26 YO rookie OG
3- cutting DVD
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On the bright side the Buckeye Chekwa was kept on the PS…
September 4th, 2012 at 8:50 am
If bergs is a good player age doesnt matter. Its all about finding good players at that point in the draft.
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I agree. OL who are “mature” may actually be a good thing as their shelf life is limited anyway. I’m not a big fan of Bergs not because of his age, but because of his limited athleticism that’s needed in the ZBS. If his lateral quicks are as good as they say, he should be alright though. But he’s a bit of project though and that’s to be expected of a 4th round pick so no big issue with Reggie’s pick.
September 4th, 2012 at 8:50 am
what up NATION?
September 4th, 2012 at 8:52 am
Whut’s good Thec?
September 4th, 2012 at 8:53 am
I am not worried about the dink, and dunk.
Carson Palmer will TAKE what the defense gives him.
No 3 and outs, false starts by the oline, holding penalties and such.
we have the tools to do it.
move the chains…by any means.
September 4th, 2012 at 8:54 am
TxRaider210 Says:
September 4th, 2012 at 8:52 am
Whut’s good Thec?
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All is well Brother. Taking a break from “work”.
September 4th, 2012 at 8:55 am
Thec Says:
September 4th, 2012 at 8:53 am
I am not worried about the dink, and dunk.
Carson Palmer will TAKE what the defense gives him.
No 3 and outs, false starts by the oline, holding penalties and such.
we have the tools to do it.
move the chains…by any means.
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You’re correct man, and I don’t look for throws to be short of the 1st down marker in real games.
September 4th, 2012 at 8:57 am
Thec Says:
September 4th, 2012 at 8:54 am
TxRaider210 Says:
September 4th, 2012 at 8:52 am
Whut’s good Thec?
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All is well Brother. Taking a break from “work”.
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I hear that, less than a week until the front 7 destroys Rivers!
September 4th, 2012 at 8:58 am
On the bright side the Buckeye Chekwa was kept on the PS…
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Go Buckeyes!!
Go Roadrunners!!
Damn you Mich!!
September 4th, 2012 at 8:58 am
what i do not want to see on monday night is, a lot of Janakowski.
I want TD’s not Fg’s.
September 4th, 2012 at 8:58 am
I was talking football last night with my wife and explaining the turnover the regime and Al Davis passing. I told her about the scholarships and how Hue Jackson ran a loose ship under a dysfunctional franchise structure and headstrong ancient owner. And how we set the record for team penalties last year. And still we went 8-8. Then I mentioned how the penatlies have dropped off dramatically this preseason. She doesn’t know much about football, but thinks that by that logic, the Raiders should at the very least be in the playoffs this year. I agreed. Smart lady.
September 4th, 2012 at 8:59 am
Raider O Says:
September 4th, 2012 at 8:58 am
On the bright side the Buckeye Chekwa was kept on the PS…
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Go Buckeyes!!
Go Roadrunners!!
Damn you Mich!!
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LMAO!
Hey, give the Wolverines credit for stinking Mayweather out of his retirement fund!
September 4th, 2012 at 8:59 am
These guys probably shouldnt buy a house in the area..
Nix
Barksdale
Adams/Francies
Althought Nix would probably be put on the PS.
September 4th, 2012 at 8:59 am
I hear that, less than a week until the front 7 destroys Rivers!
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I have been thinking about this one since the draft.
If I could hate anyone, he would be in the top 3.
I want to see his head twisted off by the ShoBeast.
September 4th, 2012 at 9:00 am
Thec
Agreed man, they must convert in the redzone this year!
September 4th, 2012 at 9:00 am
Thec Says:
September 4th, 2012 at 8:58 am
what i do not want to see on monday night is, a lot of Janakowski.
I want TD’s not Fg’s.
Amen, Thec!
September 4th, 2012 at 9:01 am
Thec Says:
September 4th, 2012 at 8:59 am
I hear that, less than a week until the front 7 destroys Rivers!
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I have been thinking about this one since the draft.
If I could hate anyone, he would be in the top 3.
I want to see his head twisted off by the ShoBeast.
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Shonasty will handle that rookie LT they have, just wait and see.
September 4th, 2012 at 9:02 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
September 4th, 2012 at 8:59 am
These guys probably shouldnt buy a house in the area..
Nix
Barksdale
Adams/Francies
Althought Nix would probably be put on the PS.
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I picked LNIX to make the team as soon as we signed him as a UDFA….
He can be moved to the PS “IF” the team has its sights on someone else on the wave wire that can help the team now.
September 4th, 2012 at 9:02 am
Hwnrdr, whats up Brother? Looking forward to seeing the NATION on monday.
September 4th, 2012 at 9:02 am
Off to lunch, will return shortly
September 4th, 2012 at 9:03 am
Shonasty will handle that rookie LT they have, just wait and see.
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So let it be written, so let it be done.
September 4th, 2012 at 9:03 am
Ltr Tx
September 4th, 2012 at 9:04 am
Thec Says:
September 4th, 2012 at 9:02 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
September 4th, 2012 at 8:59 am
These guys probably shouldnt buy a house in the area..
Nix
Barksdale
Adams/Francies
Althought Nix would probably be put on the PS.
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I picked LNIX to make the team as soon as we signed him as a UDFA….
He can be moved to the PS “IF” the team has its sights on someone else on the wave wire that can help the team now.
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I like Nix, just doesnt make sense to have him on the roster right now.
Bergstrom is the backup G.. Parsons the backup C/G..
Would rather see another WR until our health returns at the position.
September 4th, 2012 at 9:05 am
I gotta roll…
ALL you guys have a great day.
1 NATION.
September 4th, 2012 at 9:06 am
See ya, God Bless.
September 4th, 2012 at 9:09 am
GOOD AFTERNOON NATION !!
and my GreenParty brothers !!
September 4th, 2012 at 9:10 am
When do they post starting line up ?
September 4th, 2012 at 9:10 am
Raider O Says:
September 4th, 2012 at 8:40 am
3 moves that I don’t agree with:
1- Hiring Knapp
2- Drafting the 26 YO rookie OG
3- cutting DVD
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Who would you have drafted?
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
I wanted Alameda Ta’amu.
September 4th, 2012 at 9:10 am
mcfadden20. Says:
September 4th, 2012 at 9:10 am
When do they post starting line up ?
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As late as possible id imagine.
The less info the opponent has, the better.
September 4th, 2012 at 9:11 am
Raider O Says:
September 4th, 2012 at 9:10 am
Raider O Says:
September 4th, 2012 at 8:40 am
3 moves that I don’t agree with:
1- Hiring Knapp
2- Drafting the 26 YO rookie OG
3- cutting DVD
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Who would you have drafted?
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I wanted Alameda Ta’amu.
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Nice, I wanted Brandon Harris..
September 4th, 2012 at 9:12 am
Wrong draft…lol, its too early for me.
September 4th, 2012 at 9:13 am
Later Thec.
Wassup Mike?
September 4th, 2012 at 9:14 am
Key of this game on Monday Night is controlling TOP.
We can’t afford to get into a shootout with the Chargers. For one, if don’t have a healthy Ford or Moore, any 4 WR sets would require either Reece or Aus. And Criner isn’t fully healthy either.
If we want to win, DMAC must overshadow Palmer and defense must rile P. Rivers early and often. We can’t trade blow for blow with them offensively.
September 4th, 2012 at 9:16 am
Thec Says:
September 4th, 2012 at 9:02 am
Hwnrdr, whats up Brother? Looking forward to seeing the NATION on monday.
Yup, can’t wait…
September 4th, 2012 at 9:16 am
Playoffs are within reAch if we can stay healthy
September 4th, 2012 at 9:18 am
guest123 Says:
September 4th, 2012 at 9:14 am
Key of this game on Monday Night is controlling TOP.
We can’t afford to get into a shootout with the Chargers. For one, if don’t have a healthy Ford or Moore, any 4 WR sets would require either Reece or Aus. And Criner isn’t fully healthy either.
If we want to win, DMAC must overshadow Palmer and defense must rile P. Rivers early and often. We can’t trade blow for blow with them offensively.
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Yep, good post man.
September 4th, 2012 at 9:25 am
422.hwnrdr Says:
September 4th, 2012 at 9:00 am
Thec Says:
September 4th, 2012 at 8:58 am
what i do not want to see on monday night is, a lot of Janakowski.
I want TD’s not Fg’s.
Amen, Thec!
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Unless he has a lot of touchbacks….
September 4th, 2012 at 9:29 am
I want to see a lot of Janikowski kicking extra points.
September 4th, 2012 at 9:32 am
Im feeling better since we trimmed all that fat from last yrs awful D.. especialy tommy boy bresnehan.
September 4th, 2012 at 9:33 am
The Dolts won’t be able to game plan really, they have no clue what the defense is going to show, I have a feeling it’ll be a long day for Phyllis.
September 4th, 2012 at 9:34 am
I apolgize for the whine, but it’s bad enough that I have to wait until 10 o’clock Monday Night to see the Raiders and don’t get to bed until close to 2 AM, but on top of that I have to suffer the indignity of ESPN talking heads blather on and on about the recently completed Sunday games featuring the Patriots, Packers, Giants, and Eagles while they neglect any color on play by play. It’s like the announcers are bored to be at the game and still thinking about their favorite east coast teams and east coast beat writer drivel. The game is better to be watched in mute with Greg Papa’s internet radio in the background. By the end of the game, the airhead ESPN announcers sigh, “glad that’s over, g’nite! Now Sportscenter!”.
September 4th, 2012 at 9:34 am
whats good your way Tx ?
September 4th, 2012 at 9:37 am
R8ER MIKE Says:
September 4th, 2012 at 9:34 am
whats good your way Tx ?
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Not much man, ready to see the Cowgirls get whooped tomorrow, get to see the sad faces here at work.lol
September 4th, 2012 at 9:38 am
TOP, eh????
A lot of punding DMcFad???????
I don’t know about that.
20 carries or less per game for 20.
Palmer is a top 10 QB, right?
Pass the ball and run up the score!
September 4th, 2012 at 9:40 am
Rejoice! We are ranked 26th in BSPN power rankings. The only other 8-8 team ranked in the bottom 10 is Arizona at 23. Lol. Gotta love the media hate.
September 4th, 2012 at 9:45 am
450.
We don’t have the horses at wideout to pass the ball and run up the score. Not yet anyway. Need to pound McFadden.
September 4th, 2012 at 9:45 am
The media will keep hating until we show them we should no longer be the subject of ridicule.
A couple of 8-8 seasons doesn’t erase a near decade of putrid football. Hell, last year we suffered a late season collapse and crapped a division title down our legs while setting a record for penalties. I doubt that went very far in changing people’s opinion’s about the Raiders.
Until will win our division and/or make the playoffs we will have to suffer through it.
September 4th, 2012 at 9:51 am
Not complaining, Dakota. I enjoy it and poke fun at it. Despite where we were 3 years ago or whatever streak of futility we had, we were 8-8 2 years straight with most of our weapons healthy to start the year. Their prognostication is ridiculous, but funny, and eventually sweet once we get rolling. Print that.
September 4th, 2012 at 9:53 am
But you know there is more behind the hate than just a decade of bad football. The Browns aren’t as hated and neither are the Jags. It’s an agenda of the East Coast Media to hate the Raiders and ridicule them and tease whenever possible. It stirs the ratings and they feed off ratings. They don’t even care about the Raiders but enough people hate them that it serves their purposes to stir the pot. We are a means to an end for the 4 letter network.
September 4th, 2012 at 9:55 am
Yeah, you cal slice it up 10 different ways and it still amounts to hate, but I like it. Haters will be kicked in the teeth this year.
September 4th, 2012 at 9:56 am
Well at least Vincent Brown isnt gonna be available to torch us this game.
My biggest concern was Eddie Royal, now with Hanson im not too concerned.
Hope he gets up to speed.
September 4th, 2012 at 9:56 am
What I Anna see is the command Palmer has of the huddle,his pre-snap reads,and how quick is decision making is….
He did well at checking us in & out of plays at the line
And if we fly to the ball on Dee and if we secure the tackle will going for the ball
Living in New Orleans and seeing a lot of saints game coach Alllen had the saints DB’s going for the strip everytime and turnovers force is the main reason the Saints won it all that year
1-Nation
UndaGod
September 4th, 2012 at 10:01 am
Ravens just released LT Bryant McKinnie in a cost cutting move.
September 4th, 2012 at 10:05 am
Guest123 Says:
September 4th, 2012 at 10:01 am
Ravens just released LT Bryant McKinnie in a cost cutting move.
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Hmm…hope SD doesn’t jump on this.
September 4th, 2012 at 10:07 am
The Big Banana Says:
September 4th, 2012 at 10:05 am
Guest123 Says:
September 4th, 2012 at 10:01 am
Ravens just released LT Bryant McKinnie in a cost cutting move.
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Hmm…hope SD doesn’t jump on this.
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Even they do, no biggie. Bringing in an LT less than a week before the game? False starts galore.
September 4th, 2012 at 10:08 am
RaiderDuck Says:
September 4th, 2012 at 10:07 am
The Big Banana Says:
September 4th, 2012 at 10:05 am
Guest123 Says:
September 4th, 2012 at 10:01 am
Ravens just released LT Bryant McKinnie in a cost cutting move.
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Hmm…hope SD doesn’t jump on this.
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Even they do, no biggie. Bringing in an LT less than a week before the game? False starts galore.
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Maybe Bellicheat will go into hoarding mode, just so the Dolts can’t sign him:)
September 4th, 2012 at 10:11 am
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September 4th, 2012 at 10:12 am
Janikowski, Moore and Ford not at practice today according to Corkran
September 4th, 2012 at 10:16 am
So maybe DHB and Streater start Monday?
September 4th, 2012 at 10:20 am
So maybe DHB and Streater start Monday?
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I think so. maybe.
September 4th, 2012 at 10:21 am
Klas has placed some bets. Ready to see money roll in, lol. Klas places 5 dollar parlays!
September 4th, 2012 at 10:23 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 4th, 2012 at 10:21 am
Klas has placed some bets. Ready to see money roll in, lol. Klas places 5 dollar parlays!
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Klas, in the states we call that Big Pimpin!
September 4th, 2012 at 10:25 am
Happy 231 years LA!
September 4th, 2012 at 10:25 am
Klas picks Steelers, Eagles, Patriots, Saints, and Bears to cover.
September 4th, 2012 at 10:26 am
i hope we pick up a rb……….i trust goodson not
September 4th, 2012 at 10:30 am
DAV,
I wanted Sean Spence from Miami, but he wasn’t available, so I wanted Ta’amu.
B Harris was a 2nd round pick as I remember.
September 4th, 2012 at 10:32 am
Btw, Brandon Harris was drafted in the 2011 draft, wasn’t he?
September 4th, 2012 at 10:34 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
September 4th, 2012 at 9:12 am
Wrong draft…lol, its too early for me.
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LOL
September 4th, 2012 at 10:35 am
Yo, y’all best listen to Ice Cube’s new Raider’s track, biotches!
http://www.pepsianthems.com/artists/ice-cube
September 4th, 2012 at 10:38 am
Klas has placed some bets. Ready to see money roll in, lol. Klas places 5 dollar parlays!
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Klas, in the states we call that Big Pimpin!
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LMFAO
September 4th, 2012 at 10:38 am
SOOOOO GREAT!!!!
http://www.pepsianthems.com/artists/ice-cube
My convertible Audi S5 with Harmon Kardon is bumping it all day for sure.
September 4th, 2012 at 10:39 am
I guess Ice Cube has proclaimed himself President of Raider Nation.
September 4th, 2012 at 10:39 am
September 4th, 2012 at 11:09 am
453.Dakota Says:
September 4th, 2012 at 9:45 am
The media will keep hating until we show them we should no longer be the subject of ridicule.
A couple of 8-8 seasons doesn’t erase a near decade of putrid football. Hell, last year we suffered a late season collapse and crapped a division title down our legs while setting a record for penalties. I doubt that went very far in changing people’s opinion’s about the Raiders.
Until will win our division and/or make the playoffs we will have to suffer through it.
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I think the Mexican media don´t hate the Raiders too much, they recongnize us as the bad guys, but they buy the philosofy and like it. 2 guys in ESPN in Spanish (one of them is a USA citizen) said a few days ago that the biggest surprise will be the Raiders and the Browns in the AFC.
September 4th, 2012 at 11:25 am
I think our front Seven have to destroy Rivers because I have no faith in our DBs yet! A good push up front can make up for an average secondary.