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Odds and ends from busy day

By Steve Corkran
Wednesday, September 5th, 2012 at 6:26 pm in Oakland Raiders.

The Raiders reportedly worked out tight end Fendi Onobun today, the same day they reportedly met with wide receviers Jabar Gaffney and Tiquan Underwood. The Buffalo Bills waived Onobun last week.

Onobun, 25, played three games for the St. Louis Rams in 2010, catching two passes for 15 yards. He played in one game for the Jacksonville Jaguars last season, without catching any passes. He also spent time with the Buffalo Bills in 2011.

– The Raiders said kicker Sebastian Janikowski was excused from practice Tuesday so that he could spend time with his wife and their newborn twin daughters.

– The Raiders changed Saturday’s practice to an evening affair as a means of better simulating the conditions for the regular-season opener.

Also, the practice will be moved from the team’s year-round facility in Alameda to the Coliseum, where the Raiders play the Chargers on Monday night.

Former coaches Hue Jackson and Tom Cable used a similar approach, to mixed results. Jackson changed the practices the week before last season’s opener in Denver to nighttime affairs, and the Raiders went to Denver and beat the Broncos.

– The Raiders reached injury settlements with tight end Tory Humphrey, defensive tackle Jamie Cumbie and offensive lineman Ed Wang before waiving them from the injured-reserve list.

Fullback Rashawn Jackson was waived from the injured reserve without an injury settlement.

Making these moves means the Raiders don’t have to count their 2012 base salaries toward their salary cap, which became mandatory Tuesday.

It’s interesting to note that the Raiders left punter Marquette King on the injured reserve. Punter Shane Lechler’s contract is up after this season.

– Quarterback Carson Palmer, running back Darren McFadden, defensive tackles Richard Seymour and Tommy Kelly and punter Shane Lechler were elected as captains for this year’s Raiders team.

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253 Responses to “Odds and ends from busy day”

  1. 92101_Raider Says:

    1st!!

  2. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Three different short yardage, 1 or 2 yards to go run plays from these teams, and each one lost yardage.

    3rd and 1 is almost a passing situation these days.

  3. 92101_Raider Says:

    Gonna be watching the game on Monday in a house full of Charger fans. I can’t wait to rub it in when Raiders win!!!

  4. Plunketthead Says:

    46.Blackholepriest Says:
    March 28th, 2008 at 10:39 pm
    He is the obvious choice to you guy’s unfortunately you wont be making that pick.

    Listen I like Mcfadden just not as much as you do. You guy’s think he’s capable of all kinds of things and I disagree I think he’s a speed back and that’s it.

    I want a lot of things but they knw what that team needs and if I knew what they were thinking I wouldn’t put it in here. Personally I like Ellis, Dorsey, Gholston, Long and the OT Long.

    McFadden is just not a dominant HB IMO and for my money there’s no way I draft him that high if he’s not.
    We have what I feel is a dominant HB in Mb and a great change of pace back in Fargas. As far as versatility MB is much more so than DMC, and he can pass as well as DMC. He’s just a much better player.

  5. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Personally I like Ellis, Dorsey, Gholston, Long and the OT Long.
    —-
    Ha ha! Priest also said Vick is better than Elway.

  6. Plunketthead Says:

    This page is full of good stuff but I imagine almost every page is
    http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2008/03/28/titans-sign-carr-to-offer-sheet/#comments

    465.Blackholepriest Says:
    March 29th, 2008 at 8:09 pm
    BOB if DMC were a great back and I mean a dominant back I would draft him in a heart beat.

    But IMO he is just an overhyped speed back. I’ll tell you someting else in terms of an evey down back I would take Fargas over him simply because he’s proven and runs extremely hard. DMC is all flash and fast, I don’t believe that he would holdup to the pounding yu take at that position. He’s tooo damn easy to bring down. That’s why his little highlight reel you NEVER see him take on defenders and win. He’s just running against the wind.

    Baby that is not the NFL……I’m sorry they will hand that kid his hat and coat and send him packing.

  7. Carl Weathers Says:

    Plunketthead Says:
    September 5th, 2012 at 6:35 pm
    This page is full of good stuff but I imagine almost every page is

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    My favourite page that gets pulled up from time to time is when Norco snapped!

  8. KoolKell Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    September 5th, 2012 at 6:31 pm

    Personally I like Ellis, Dorsey, Gholston, Long and the OT Long.
    —-
    Ha ha! Priest also said Vick is better than Elway.
    ——————
    At least he was a fan, and not a cross-posting troll thingy.

  9. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Kell, I am big Raider fan. Bigger than you. How was your nap?

  10. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    These 12 hour days at work are killing me..
    64 hours worked this week.. Almost time to go home and self medicate with some Pineapple Trainwreck

  11. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Man that old thread had a lot of guys whiffing (Terraping especially).

    About the only people that had that draft nailed was Raider81 and J Hill.

  12. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    I did find a pretty good Oatmeal Recipe on that Old thread… So glad we didnt draft Gholston

  13. KoolKell Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    September 5th, 2012 at 6:44 pm

    Kell, I am big Raider fan. Bigger than you. How was your nap?
    —————
    In your small mind, of course. That’s why you have to change your name so often.

  14. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Cowboys defense is not bad.

  15. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    September 5th, 2012 at 6:52 pm
    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    September 5th, 2012 at 6:44 pm

    Kell, I am big Raider fan. Bigger than you. How was your nap?
    —————
    In your small mind, of course. That’s why you have to change your name so often.
    —–
    My name is Klas and I am sexy. You are old and smell like prune juice.

  16. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Come on Cruz!

  17. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Feeling pretty good about starting Carson Palmer over Eli this week, right now.

  18. Marks hair Says:

    Bush cant block.. qb killer.

  19. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Slick Willy better hurry up and get on stage while it is halftime.

  20. The ghost of tatum Says:

    Plunketthead… you’re a third world bafoon if you honestly believe Dmac is simply a speed back. He’s a complete back with speed, power, moves, hands and blocking ability. When that man lowers his shoulders he knocks people back, and did you see the hat he laid on haloti ngata a few years back? He’s as physical as they come which is why hes often injured, wayyyyyy more than a speed back. Calling dmac simply a speed back proves you know nothing about the game of football proving all of your future opinions to be non valid.

  21. Plunketthead Says:

    Gee Ghost I might not be be very football smart but at least I can read. Whats your excuse?

  22. TxRaider210 Says:

    Geez KK melted down in one half of football, I hope a pigeon poops on the red corvette, and not the bird.

  23. Plunketthead Says:

    PS what is a bafoon?

  24. The ghost of tatum Says:

    My apologies plunketthead i realize you were just reposting dmac doubters of the past. Im the real bafoon. Lol

  25. TxRaider210 Says:

    Klas

    Thanks for beating the Turd-bird while I watched football, you da man!

  26. Missus Beeecham Says:

    HOLLA

    ooooh I just rolled a sexy turd. I may even put one on display at some tail gettin monday night.

    OOOOOH YEAH HES A SEXY TURD

  27. Plunketthead Says:

    Corvette? I thought KK owned a red hyundi

  28. Plunketthead Says:

    lol no problem ghost I hate when I do that

  29. TxRaider210 Says:

    I bet Kell got banned from roadways in 85 or so..

  30. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    TxRaider210 Says:
    September 5th, 2012 at 7:00 pm
    Klas

    Thanks for beating the Turd-bird while I watched football, you da man!
    —-
    No probs Tx. Klas is your wingman.

  31. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Kool Kell is a lot like Jim Lahey.

  32. Missus Beeecham Says:

    HOLLA HOOOOOOLA

    sexy terd is my newest. oooooohh sexy terd.

    U KNOW THIS BIOTCH CAN ROLL

  33. Plunketthead Says:

    Wheres Bill. I want to hear him. Fluke is on stage now. I bet she shows everyone her vulva like those radical girls that dressed up like vag’s

  34. TxRaider210 Says:

    Klas

    Romo only scored a brother 7 points, damn their Oline stinks, Eli will score late 4th.

  35. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    You can’t be half a gangster.

  36. DJ Johnny Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    September 5th, 2012 at 6:55 pm
    Feeling pretty good about starting Carson Palmer over Eli this week, right now.

    Carson Palmer is gonna be the Carson Palmer of 2005.

  37. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    TX, Victor Cruz letting me down.

  38. TxRaider210 Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    September 5th, 2012 at 7:04 pm

    Kool Kell is a lot like Jim Lahey.
    ———————
    Randy man Bobandy, I Am the Liquor!

  39. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    I bet Kell is Missus Beeecham.

  40. Marks hair Says:

    Seems like we always start the season last.

  41. TxRaider210 Says:

    Cruz droppin’ the rock man

  42. TxRaider210 Says:

    I like the D this week, the last game and just waiting to smack the opponent.

  43. Missus Beeecham Says:

    HEY HEY OH MY MY
    HOLLA JUST ROLLED A DUECE THAT IS FLY

    terd.

    word.

    HOLLA

  44. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    I think Giants come out rolling in second half.

  45. TxRaider210 Says:

    yep

  46. Carl Weathers Says:

    Congratulations Jano!

  47. Marks hair Says:

    If we lose this week i can play as my raiders anymore on madden.. they already have us ranked at the bottom.. my d cant stop anybody.

  48. Marks hair Says:

    Cant play not can play

  49. Just Fire Baby Says:

    LOL at this Fluke chick.

    A single chick from a wealthy family, dating a man with a 40 foot yacht, who is going to a prestigous university, without a family of her own or anything to worry about in life compared to 95% of the women in this country, is the voice for women’s rights?

    She doesn’t deserve to share the stage with Michelle.

  50. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    If, at any time prior to a sale being agreed, you feel that I am failing to provide the services I promise, you are free to cancel the listing without any cost to you.
    ——
    Kell, is this why you have no listings?

  51. qodrn1 Says:

    Don’t worry, Fluke has been dumped fro the speaker list.

  52. KoolKell Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    September 5th, 2012 at 7:14 pm

    LOL at this Fluke chick.

    A single chick from a wealthy family, dating a man with a 40 foot yacht, who is going to a prestigous university, without a family of her own or anything to worry about in life compared to 95% of the women in this country, is the voice for women’s rights?

    She doesn’t deserve to share the stage with Michelle.
    —————
    Nah, your boy Rush Limbaugh would know better, I guess.

  53. Plunketthead Says:

    Her claim to fame is her demand that the state pay for birth control pills for college students.

    And she is front and center of the national debate today as the world falls apart.

    Nice!

  54. qodrn1 Says:

    If the Raiders signed someone, who goes?

  55. Plunketthead Says:

    Ford maybe moore

  56. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    Barksdale Goes

  57. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Raiders probably cut CB if they sign someone.

  58. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Barksdale too.

  59. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Barksdale SHOULD go, but I am not sure who would.

    Got to think this Francis guy is about day-to-day these days, as far as his roster spot.

  60. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    That was really bad call.

  61. Intrepid Says:

    qodrn1 Says: If the Raiders signed someone, who goes?//////////////////Freed up 4 spots on injured reserve. Doesn’t answer your question, tho.

  62. Marks hair Says:

    Fuçk cruz! I got you starting bltch!

  63. KoolKell Says:

    Looking for attention Klas?

  64. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Denarious Moore has been gone for most of OTAs, all of training camp and is still missing time. Him and Jacoby Ford spending too much time in the tub.

    Hate to say it, but the Raiders are not going to be able to afford to wait for players to come back only to miss big chunks of the season.

    Setting ourselves again where a 1 week injury turns into 8 to 10 missed games

  65. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Kell, I thought you sold that house. Why it still listed on your page?

  66. wasbanned Says:

    Hagan back with Raiders

  67. Plunketthead Says:

    If Raiders sign Gaffney before opener, they’re on the hook for entire season’s salary. Wouldn’t paint optimistic outlook for Moore, Ford.
    by Jerrymcd via twitter

  68. wasbanned Says:

    Derek Hagan signs with Raiders according to his twitter account.

  69. wasbanned Says:

    @dhagan80: Now I have officially signed back with DA Raiders!!!!! Can’t wait to put that silver and black back on!!!! #Raiders

  70. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    September 5th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
    I get a kick out of people who don’t like Knapp because it isn’t “Raider” football (this is true; Raider football to me means leading the world in penalties and not making the playoffs, so I welcome the change) yet hate on Rolando as well.
    =============================================
    JFB, There was a time when Raider football was synonymous with stretching the field vertically and smashmouth offensive line play. Yes, we led the world in penalties, but we also won championships.

    I get that you want to win and welcome a change to a system or style that you think will accomplish that.

    What you want to do is ‘Just win, baby’. After all, that is our mantra and the bottom line.

    On that we’re probably all in agreement.

    Perhaps Knapp can redefine what ‘Raider’ ball is by helping bring a championship.

    The many years of losing has eroded the once proud renegade identity the Raids once enjoyed.

    The mystique is gone.

    All that remains is the memory of what ‘Raider’ ball once was.

    But make no mistake, there once was a ‘Raider’ brand of football and it was about as different as can be from the conservatism that I think Knapp will bring in 2012.

    I know you welcome the change and think it’s the way to winning, I don’t.

    Don’t even get me started on Slo-mania.

  71. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    SteveAlford21 Says:
    April 26th, 2010 at 10:39 pm
    What’s the difference between KoolKell and a large pizza?

    A large pizza can feed a family of four.
    —–LOL
    A large pizza also doesn’t smell like malt liquor and prune juice.

  72. Intrepid Says:

    wasbanned Says: Derek Hagan signs with Raiders according to his twitter account.//////////////Serious?

  73. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Wasbanned Says:
    September 5th, 2012 at 7:34 pm
    @dhagan80: Now I have officially signed back with DA Raiders!!!!! Can’t wait to put that silver and black back on!!!! #Raiders
    —-
    Retribution

  74. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Hagan!!!!!

    He was adapt as a gunner as well on punts.

    Hope the release Barks or Francis.

  75. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Reggie probably found Hagan’s phone number in Al’s old Rolodex when cleaning out office.

  76. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Moore and Ford better get back in it.

    Team will start getting used to you being gone and you STILL have to establish yourselves

  77. Just Fire Baby Says:

    What you want to do is ‘Just win, baby’. After all, that is our mantra and the bottom line.

    On that we’re probably all in agreement.

    ***************************

    Yup, and we are going to do it with Al’s last 1st round pick as a beast MLB, and an O-line he hand in building.

    Make no mistake, this team is going to try to be very physical, running the ball and beating up the QB, and will have success doing it.

    How much? We shall see.

  78. KoolKell Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    September 5th, 2012 at 7:30 pm

    Kell, I thought you sold that house. Why it still listed on your page?
    ———————
    Why don’t you get a life of your own douchebag?

  79. Carl Weathers Says:

    Welcome back Hagan!

    Another Al Davis draft pick will be out the door in Barksdale.

  80. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Deal go bad Kell?

  81. KoolKell Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    September 5th, 2012 at 7:37 pm

    Reggie probably found Hagan’s phone number in Al’s old Rolodex when cleaning out office.
    —————–
    Looking for attention with that silly shat? That your life.

  82. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    September 5th, 2012 at 7:42 pm
    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    September 5th, 2012 at 7:37 pm

    Reggie probably found Hagan’s phone number in Al’s old Rolodex when cleaning out office.
    —————–
    Looking for attention with that silly shat? That your life.
    —–
    Why you mad bro? You jealous because Klas has good time and enjoys his life?

  83. KoolKell Says:

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    September 5th, 2012 at 7:41 pm

    Deal go bad Kell?
    ————
    Nope. how about you Klaus?

  84. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Hagan stays healthy. Had a good preseason last year. Bring him back and get him on the field.

    Can’t wait for these guys in the tub forever.

  85. Mr. Heisman Lombardi Says:

    Romo looks good.

  86. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Kell you on the twitter? You be fun to follow.

  87. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Call me crazy, but once she went with the straight hair look, I always thought Chelsea was hot.

  88. KoolKell Says:

    Why you mad bro? You jealous because Klas has good time and enjoys his life?
    —————–
    Me jealous of you? Me Klas, me sexy? Really? Dumbass. Who are you? Jealous of what? If I wanted to be a silly azzed cross posting troll……..anybody can do that.

  89. Mr. Heisman Lombardi Says:

    On the other channel Clinton is knocking it out the park.

  90. KoolKell Says:

    Bill Clinton is killin it.

  91. Just Fire Baby Says:

    No coincidence that last years top 2 QB’s in 4th quarter QBR were the guy who won the Super Bowl and the guy who went 15-1 and lost to the guy who won the Super Bowl.

  92. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    Lots of speculation as to who goes now that Hagan is supposedly back.

    This will surprise, but I think it’s going to be Ausberry.

    Raids looking at Onobun is a clue. The staff isn’t happy with the TE crew we have. Raids can go with 2 TE’s until DMoore and Ford return. Reese can even fill in as pass catching TE for a while.

  93. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Wow, BO hired a bunch of Dem’s in his cabinet??

    You don’t say!!! What was he supposed to do, hire Hannity and Karl Rove?

    I don’t think Romney will get the same heap of praise if he hires Rick Perry and Newt Gingrich, lol.

  94. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Time for Romo to f*ck up.

  95. qodrn1 Says:

    Get the feeling the Raiders that play on Monday are going to be quite different from those who are on the team now….Hagan? What about Rock?

  96. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Wonder if Billy will bring up the reason the economy took off his last 3 years in office, was when he LOWERED the cap gains tax rate from 28 to 20%?

  97. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Giants looking bad.

  98. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    Dems are in trouble if they’re trying to convince America that B.O. has done a good job with the economy.

    Bill can talk til he’s blue in the face, B.O. has added trillions to the national debt and the economy is still in the crapper.

    Hard to deny that reality.

  99. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Jobs reports and unemployment numbers come out Friday.

    Will be an interesting bit of factual data to offset the rhetoric this week.

  100. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Hard to deny that reality.
    —-
    Come on Raiderman! The reality is that your election won’t even be close. 0bama will win easy.

  101. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    Tryone looked like DVD there.

  102. Mr Green Says:

    :mrgreen:

  103. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Bad start to season for Klas. Cruz sucks and I lose bet.

  104. TxRaider210 Says:

    Giants and Girls D look crappy

  105. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    Come on Raiderman! The reality is that your election won’t even be close. 0bama will win easy.
    ==================================================
    I think it will be close. B.O. probably wins. People are stupid and he’s got the media on his side.

    Who you voting for MR ?

    Don’t bother answering. Already know the answer, Gus.

  106. Just Win Baby Says:

    I thought the Giants were supposed to have the current model for good defense. I am not impressed with the defensive line whatsoever.

  107. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    CRUZ!!!!!!!

  108. Raid uh Max Says:

    Cruz dropped it again. I’m just saying. EYE!!!

  109. Charge my retread Says:

    Who wants to go to the charger blog ant troll them. Tell them how bad we’re gonna lick their balls. Bend over chargers cuz we gonna stick it where the sun don’t shine

  110. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Giants gave up a ton of passing yards last season as well.

  111. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Faux John Madden ‏@FauxJohnMadden
    Victor Cruz apparently coated his hands in salsa before the game.
    Expand
    Reply Retweet Favorite

  112. Raid uh Max Says:

    Bust

  113. KoolKell Says:

    The republican trickle down bs is not palatable at this time in America. Been there did that.

  114. Mr. Heisman Lombardi Says:

    Great game. As for Clinton, he got a hold of that one!

  115. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    If HUE was coaching Dallas, they’d be passing the ball now.

  116. Raidernationdave Says:

    ROFLMMFAO!

    ++++++++++++++

    Klas Tjorborn Says:
    September 5th, 2012 at 7:34 pm
    SteveAlford21 Says:
    April 26th, 2010 at 10:39 pm
    What’s the difference between KoolKell and a large pizza?

    A large pizza can feed a family of four.
    —–LOL
    A large pizza also doesn’t smell like malt liquor and prune juice.

  117. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Big-time 3rd and 1 play, each team has been getting stuffed when they tried to run it.

  118. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Teams just DON’T convert 3rd and 4th’s and short running the ball this day and age.

    Remember that, next time Knapp calls one that doesn’t work.

    The Cowboys are 0 and 4 at today!!!

  119. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Did the Giants sign DVD?

  120. morilla Says:

    Hagan is back? How about that, I was pulling for him last year. But then I seem to remember a certain someone not giving him playing time, then getting rid of him to bring in an old buddy.

  121. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    Glad I laid off this game. Liked the Giants.

  122. Intrepid Says:

    When the he11 did Romo get this good? I knew he was decent, but not this good.

  123. Mr Green Says:

    Not to worry. Mr Green says the Raidahs will still be meeting with the Giants in Nawleens.

  124. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    Teams just DON’T convert 3rd and 4th’s and short running the ball this day and age.

    Remember that, next time Knapp calls one that doesn’t work.
    ——————————————–
    If it doesn’t work, Knapp will call it.

  125. Just Fire Baby Says:

    When the he11 did Romo get this good?

    ***************************

    Check the Calendar.

    He does this every year. December is a different story.

  126. waklaboo Says:

    Derek Hagan ‏@dhagan80
    Now I have officially signed back with DA Raiders!!!!! Can’t wait to put that silver and black back on!!!! #Raiders
    Retweeted by Steve Corkran

    He’s back….

  127. Klas Tjorborn Says:

    Giants going to struggle this year.

  128. RaiderDuck Says:

    That might be the single best speech Bill Clinton has ever given, and he’s given a lot of good ones (no matter whether you like him or not).

  129. RaiderDuck Says:

    As for Hagan: Great pickup. Chris Hansen suggested on Twitter that instead of cutting someone, they might put Jacoby on the IR/DTR list.

  130. MistaBrown Says:

    Welcome back D Hagan and H Jackson feel free to go Fk yourself.

    #pr|ck

  131. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    morilla Says:
    September 5th, 2012 at 8:30 pm
    Hagan is back? How about that, I was pulling for him last year. But then I seem to remember a certain someone not giving him playing time, then getting rid of him to bring in an old buddy.
    ===================================================
    Exactly. And the team was worse off for that ridiculous decision to bring in Housh.

    Hagan will provide needed depth and a reliable player that will at least suit up on game day

  132. Raidernationdave Says:

    Glad I didn’t start Witten. 1 huge fantasy point!

  133. morilla Says:

    DHB, Moore ( hurry up dude…), Streater, Criner, Hagan. Not bad.

    I don’t want to give up on Ford, but I am having flashbacks of Schilens.

  134. Just Fire Baby Says:

    You could tell that Soup enjoyed the vet saavy of Hagan last year, and they were clicking pretty well last season to start off the year.

    Then Hue wasn’t getting enough attention and pulled the plug on that one.

  135. wasbanned Says:

    All the same media idiots who are are so sure the Raiders would finish last all said there was no way Dallas could beat the Giants tonight.

    I love when douchebags are exposed.

  136. MistaBrown Says:

    KK Chick Fil A, you have watched liberalsism/socialism/marxism make everything 10x worse the last 4 years and yet you continue to stick your head in your anus and wonder why you cant get no air.

    #dumbasrocks
    _____

    KoolKell Says:
    September 5th, 2012 at 8:19 pm

    The republican trickle down bs is not palatable at this time in America. Been there did that.

  137. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    morilla Says:
    September 5th, 2012 at 8:41 pm
    DHB, Moore ( hurry up dude…), Streater, Criner, Hagan. Not bad.

    I don’t want to give up on Ford, but I am having flashbacks of Schilens.
    ===================================================
    Missing 12 weeks due to a hamstring strain is Schilenish too

  138. morilla Says:

    SnB Offense Defense Specialteams Says:
    September 5th, 2012 at 8:44 pm
    morilla Says:
    September 5th, 2012 at 8:41 pm
    DHB, Moore ( hurry up dude…), Streater, Criner, Hagan. Not bad.

    I don’t want to give up on Ford, but I am having flashbacks of Schilens.
    ===================================================
    Missing 12 weeks due to a hamstring strain is Schilenish too
    —————–

    Very True

  139. RaiderDuck Says:

    Also, did or did not Clinton just mention George W. Bush more times than everybody at the GOP convention combined?

  140. Raidernationdave Says:

    I picked Los Gigantes. Oh, well.

  141. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    I hate to be hard on Moore and Ford. But these guys aren’t exactly Larry Fitzgerald or Calvin Johnson.

    I mean, they still are in the “prove it” phase. Missing an entire preseason is a lot to overcome.

    And they aren’t practicing this week either. No timing, no synergy and just mental reps.

    DHB has to come up.

    Streeter has an opportunity to take a job

  142. Raidernationdave Says:

    Can’t divide folks without a wedge. Never mind the two are best buds!

    ++++++++++++

    RaiderDuck Says:
    September 5th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
    Also, did or did not Clinton just mention George W. Bush more times than everybody at the GOP convention combined?

  143. Raidernationdave Says:

    141. I think what we are going to find is that Streater not only wants to play but he wants to be great. These other dudes I swear are just working for the check.

  144. morilla Says:

    Even if Moore could go on Monday, they should be hesitant to put him in. I cant see him being a difference maker with all the time he’s missed.

  145. Just Win Baby Says:

    They should put Ford on the PUP list and let him heal up properly. If Hagan blows it during the first 6 games, cut him when Ford is ready to come back.

  146. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Dallas had 13 penalties…..and won the game

  147. RaiderDuck Says:

    Just Win Baby Says:
    September 5th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
    They should put Ford on the PUP list and let him heal up properly. If Hagan blows it during the first 6 games, cut him when Ford is ready to come back.

    ============================================

    You can’t PUP someone once the season begins, but you CAN place him on the new IR/DTR (Injured Reserve/Designated to Return) list. He’d be eligible to comeback in week 8, I think. And they should do this with Ford.

  148. papertiger418 Says:

    Welcome back, Hagan! Good to see that a professional demeanor gets remembered every once in a while; nice move by Reggie on this one.

    As for tonight’s game, Romo tends to play well early in the season. He’ll remember that he’s Tony Romo soon enough.

  149. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    These receivers gotta go out and take yoga, ballet, drink water, stretch….do something to get more flexibility.

    Raiders been putting up with this for years now

  150. Raidernationdave Says:

    145. That might just work except that as a pass catcher Moore is much better than JFord.

    Although Moore is most likely not going to do much this season.

  151. Raidernationdave Says:

    147. Thumbs up

  152. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    morilla Says:
    September 5th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
    Even if Moore could go on Monday, they should be hesitant to put him in. I cant see him being a difference maker with all the time he’s missed.
    ====================================================
    You are right.

    How long is it going to take for him to become that difference maker he was in spots last year.

    Missing all that time is a setback..new offense etc…

  153. MistaBrown Says:

    Ford is about finished you can give him 4 weeks or 44 weeks it doesn’t matter. He gets tackled 1 time and he’s in a boot.

  154. morilla Says:

    SnB Offense Defense Specialteams Says:
    September 5th, 2012 at 8:55 pm
    These receivers gotta go out and take yoga, ballet, drink water, stretch….do something to get more flexibility.

    Raiders been putting up with this for years now
    ———————

    It seems that way huh? I’ve heard other teams with hammy issues, but it seems to be a permant fixture at the Raider facilities.. I remember at one point everyone was calling for new strength and conditioning coaches.

  155. Mr. Heisman Lombardi Says:

    Ford sucks. He is lucky to have a roster spot. If he can’t go, find someone who can.

  156. RaiderDuck Says:

    Mr. Heisman Lombardi Says:
    September 5th, 2012 at 9:03 pm
    Ford sucks. He is lucky to have a roster spot. If he can’t go, find someone who can.

    =============================================

    I wouldn’t say he sucks, but I’m starting to get a real Schilens vibe from the guy. Does he ever get healthy or not?

  157. hwnrdr Says:

    Good Evening Nation!!!
    Derek Hagan is tweeting that he is back with the Silver and Black

  158. hwnrdr Says:

    Speaking of Hammies…didn’t the Giants just lose another cornerback tonight due to a Hammy?

  159. PlunkforHOF Says:

    If Hagan rumor is true.. I like it.. plus Ford to temp IR makes sense.. some smart semi-pros on duty tonite.

    Wasnt B@uce a big Hagan guy?

  160. PlunkforHOF Says:

    btw.. Brien’s handle without the @ is still taboo. lol

  161. PlunkforHOF Says:

    Whats up HWN?

  162. hwnrdr Says:

    HEy Plunk…long time, bro…
    Yes, B@uce was a big Hagan guy…
    Who called it this morning? Thec?

  163. morilla Says:

    I just saw cork post that Hagans twitter account has been hacked before.

  164. Dakota Says:

    Laaaaaakers!

  165. hwnrdr Says:

    Morilla Says:
    September 5th, 2012 at 9:20 pm
    I just saw cork post that Hagans twitter account has been hacked before.

    Yeah, that’s true!

  166. PlunkforHOF Says:

    Not sure.. started drinking before I got in here.. but whoever thought of the Ford to IR as a roster spot I think is gonna be proved a semipro oracle.

  167. morilla Says:

    What happened when it was hacked? I missed that.

  168. hwnrdr Says:

    Wikipedia already has him back with The Raiders!

  169. PlunkforHOF Says:

    Cowboys better tonite than I thought they were.

  170. RaiderDuck Says:

    PlunkforHOF Says:
    September 5th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
    Not sure.. started drinking before I got in here.. but whoever thought of the Ford to IR as a roster spot I think is gonna be proved a semipro oracle.

    =============================================

    I originally mentioned it on here, but I got the idea from Chris “RaidersBlog” Hansen on Twitter.

  171. hwnrdr Says:

    Well, lets see when official news comes out…
    LOL, I hope Wikipedia didn’t update his page by a tweet…

  172. RaiderDuck Says:

    Hwnrdr Says:
    September 5th, 2012 at 9:24 pm
    Wikipedia already has him back with The Raiders!

    ===========================================

    We edit silent, but quickly.

  173. hwnrdr Says:

    PlunkforHOF Says:
    September 5th, 2012 at 9:24 pm
    Cowboys better tonite than I thought they were.

    Yeah, pretty good against a 4th string secondary…lol

  174. C-Bass Says:

    Is it possible that all the foot/leg injuries we get are from the shotty dirty field we’re still playing on?

  175. Cranium Gas Says:

    Is it possible that the ‘football’ is smaller this year because all the quarterbacks this year seem to have a better grip and they throw the ball better spiral kind. Or do quarterbacks now are just growing their hands bigger.

  176. C-Bass Says:

    Is that supposed to be a joke?

  177. DJ Johnny Says:

    The new cliche is to say “I know it’s a cliche, but…”

  178. hwnrdr Says:

    Oh well…good night Nation!!!

  179. RaiderRockstar Says:

    the Raiders reportedly had in for a visit veteran Jabar Gaffney today.

    the Raiders reportedly worked out tight end Fendi Onobun today

    ***

    sweet!

  180. DJ Johnny Says:

    hwnrdr Says:
    September 5th, 2012 at 9:27 pm
    PlunkforHOF Says:
    September 5th, 2012 at 9:24 pm
    Cowboys better tonite than I thought they were.

    Yeah, pretty good against a 4th string secondary…lol

    What do u mean?

  181. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Rockstar, this ones for you.
    bring back JLH !!!

    ***

    Agreed, Mike!

    co-signed even :)

  182. RaiderRockstar Says:

    The Raiders reached injury settlements with tight end Tory Humphrey, defensive tackle Jamie Cumbie and offensive lineman Ed Wang before waiving them from the injured-reserve list.

    Fullback Rashawn Jackson was waived from the injured reserve without an injury settlement.

    ***

    later dudes!

  183. DJ Johnny Says:

    Hagan does one thing that I like; he holds on to the ball.

    That’s a nice thing.

  184. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Congrats, Seabass!

    who is Tiquan Underwood?

    a special teams ace?

  185. Intrepid Says:

    Derek Hagan ‏@dhagan80 July 15

    To all my followers… My account was hacked… Would not send out no stupid advertising tweets!!!!

  186. Try Some Reality Says:

    SnB Offense Defense Specialteams Says:
    September 5th, 2012 at 8:41 pm
    morilla Says:
    September 5th, 2012 at 8:30 pm
    Hagan is back? How about that, I was pulling for him last year. But then I seem to remember a certain someone not giving him playing time, then getting rid of him to bring in an old buddy.
    ===================================================
    Exactly. And the team was worse off for that ridiculous decision to bring in Housh.

    =====================================

    I seem to remember a number of us not terribly happy about that move last year and getting flamed in here by 1 or 2 clueless posters. Yes, I remember it well.

  187. DJ Johnny Says:

    PlunkforHOF Says:
    September 5th, 2012 at 9:24 pm
    Cowboys better tonite than I thought they were.

    Yeah I know, but the Giants looked lifeless…no spunk or fire…or energy.

    Cowboys wanted revenge and Giants are all content with their SB and thought they could mail it in.

  188. Intrepid Says:

    It all looks legit. https://twitter.com/dhagan80

  189. DJ Johnny Says:

    So Hagan is NOT a Raider???

  190. DJ Johnny Says:

    I’m lost. Help me.

  191. Mr. Heisman Lombardi Says:

    Intrepid Says:
    September 5th, 2012 at 9:40 pm

    Derek Hagan ‏@dhagan80 July 15

    To all my followers… My account was hacked… Would not send out no stupid advertising tweets!!!!
    ===================================

    It must be the trolls from this blog who hacked Hagan.

  192. Try Some Reality Says:

    DJ Johnny Says:
    September 5th, 2012 at 9:43 pm

    I’m lost. Help me.

    =============================

    Referring to the post where he said his account was hacked? That happened in July. This seems to be legit.

  193. ZBS Apologist Says:

    If Knapp has a worried look on his face Monday night, we may be in trouble. If Knapp looks chipper, we’ll probably be ok.

  194. MiamiRaider78 Says:

    http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/3649/derek-hagan

    Never did understand why we let him go after he had a productive preaseason, last year.

    Welcome Back!

  195. DJ Johnny Says:

    Try Some Reality Says:
    September 5th, 2012 at 9:45 pm
    DJ Johnny Says:
    September 5th, 2012 at 9:43 pm

    I’m lost. Help me.

    =============================

    Referring to the post where he said his account was hacked? That happened in July. This seems to be legit.

    Thanks man.

    I’m glad he’s back…I was intrigued by Gaffney though.

  196. DJ Johnny Says:

    Why couldn’t Hagan make it with the Bills?

  197. Intrepid Says:

    DJ. use the link. https://twitter.com/corkonthenfl

  198. Intrepid Says:

    or https://twitter.com/dhagan80

  199. Intrepid Says:

    It’s not confirmed but seems likely to me.

  200. DJ Johnny Says:

    Thanks Intrepid…

  201. Intrepid Says:

    DJ Johnny Says: Why couldn’t Hagan make it with the Bills?////////That’s a good question. He’s pretty fast(4.45/40), pretty big(6′2) ,not very old(27). Maybe just a dimbulb decision like the one someone made here last year.

  202. DJ Johnny Says:

    201,…and he holds onto the ball. What are we missing?

  203. Try Some Reality Says:

    Too bad about Moore. He seems to like going up against the Chargers.

  204. Simon Says:

    woot on twins! Just kickin baby!

  205. RaiderRockstar Says:

    @silver

    you lucked out, punk

    I gambled by playing Nicks and lost. I told you I always start the wrong players on the wrong weeks

    somebody from my bench (Boldin or Rice) will rip it up in WK1

    print that :P

  206. DJ Johnny Says:

    …are the Bills that loaded at WR? I was perplexed as to why Hue dropped him last yr. Hagan was catching everything, and then? Gone.

  207. RaiderRockstar Says:

    nite gents

  208. 2romes Says:

    It just boggles me that new scheme the Raiders are running the tightend is a after though. The one cut and go, quarter back rollout, the tightend needs to be very active and versatile to make this work. I feel the Raiders have a player to do that but they should have been working his butt off already in games if they had confidence in him.

    I Think Reece and Dmac are going to be breathing heavy during the games but with a active catching tightend would take the seal off the edges and open up the running game and passing game.

  209. EMRaiders Says:

    Hagan is back?…. interesting move. I don’t remember, can he return kicks?

  210. RaiderDuck Says:

    DJ Johnny Says:
    September 5th, 2012 at 10:02 pm
    …are the Bills that loaded at WR? I was perplexed as to why Hue dropped him last yr. Hagan was catching everything, and then? Gone.

    =============================================

    Remember stuff like that the next time someone rhapsodizes about the coaching genius of Hue Jackson. Dude could be seriously whack at times.

  211. Twinkle Says:

    1Nation #1
    Holla All.
    Wondering what the fuss is over about bringing in a WR?
    Got a brand new system in place and someone is supposed to have it down pat in four days?
    Now a TE that’s been around the block a time or two I could understand.A hell of a lot of dough for Gafney.
    And Hagan wouldn’t know half the playbook in time.
    He got axed last time coz CP wanted a vet he knew not coz Hue wanted Houshyourmama.

  212. DJ Johnny Says:

    Is any other team adding this many players at this time of yr.?

  213. EMRaiders Says:

    CP wasn’t on the roster when Hagan got cut, I don’t think.

  214. DJ Johnny Says:

    211,

    I get that, but if he’s so good why isn’t he still a Bill?

  215. Twinkle Says:

    romes Says:
    September 5th, 2012 at 10:03 pm

    It just boggles me that new scheme the Raiders are running the tightend is a after though. The one cut and go, quarter back rollout, the tightend needs to be very active and versatile to make this work. I feel the Raiders have a player to do that but they should have been working his butt off already in games if they had confidence in him.

    I Think Reece and Dmac are going to be breathing heavy during the games but with a active catching tightend would take the seal off the edges and open up the running game and passing game.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Think you’ll see Marcel rolling wide and our TE blocking and DMac also out for a pass.All depends on the time the Oline gives CP.

  216. Twinkle Says:

    DJ Johnny Says:
    September 5th, 2012 at 10:08 pm

    211,

    I get that, but if he’s so good why isn’t he still a Bill?
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Believe you just answered your own question.

  217. RaiderDuck Says:

    EMRaiders Says:
    September 5th, 2012 at 10:07 pm
    CP wasn’t on the roster when Hagan got cut, I don’t think.

    ==========================================

    They overlapped by a couple of weeks.

    http://www.raiders.com/team/transactions.html

    11/02/2011 Waived WR Derek Hagan
    11/01/2011 Signed WR T.J. Houshmandzadeh
    10/18/2011 Acquired QB Carson Palmer via trade with Cincinnati in exchange for undisclosed draft choices

  218. 2romes Says:

    Twinkle Says:

    I am counting on it my man. The Raider offense needs to open up the offense they are running. The defense is always waiting for the back side run.

  219. Twinkle Says:

    DJ No other team is as shallow as us.If any of our vets go down we will be in the race for the first draft pick next year.Maybe we could trade down and give Jamarcus a
    call….wait,did I just say that?…Drink!!!

  220. MiamiRaider78 Says:

    D.A’s defense makes a difference

    Denver team sacks:

    2010 2011
    23 41

    Hope we can return to the top in sacks this year like we were in 2010.
    Go Raiders!

  221. Twinkle Says:

    Duck I don’t doubt you but that sure shot the floor out from under my ass.I used to have a memory.I swear to the goddess that it went the other way round…’Tis far better to remain silent etc….’

  222. backstageatapuppetshow Says:

    DA’d Defense? LOL

    Yeah, his name was Von Miller….and Dumervil didn’t play in 2010….

    so what’s your point MiamiRaider?

  223. backstageatapuppetshow Says:

    That’s 20 sacks for those 2 guys in 2011 and 0 in 2010.

  224. CODEBLACK2011 Says:

    hagan>criner

  225. Intrepid Says:

    EMRaiders Says: CP wasn’t on the roster when Hagan got cut, I don’t think.///////////////Hagan was signed by the Oakland Raiders on August 6, 2011. He was released on November 2, 2011. CP3 in mid october.

  226. MiamiRaider78 Says:

    Hopefully he can turn one of our LB’s or ends into a sack beast. Just adding some more koolaid to the water, thats all. lol

  227. alex7 Says:

    Predicted cowboys 30 giants 17.
    Not bad.

    Chargers 27. Raiders 20.

    Still a fan though but they’re better at te, wr, qb, lb, and overall D.
    We’re better at rb and the rest is a wash.

  228. backstageatapuppetshow Says:

    This is DA’s team…but probably Tarver’s defense….

    Just Sayin’

  229. Twinkle Says:

    2romes Says:
    September 5th, 2012 at 10:13 pm

    Twinkle Says:

    I am counting on it my man. The Raider offense needs to open up the offense they are running. The defense is always waiting for the back side run.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Knapp hasn’t shown Marcel to be even on the team in preseason.Put him in as FB on any down the world knows pass.DMac is the best WR RB Knapp has ever seen
    I’m betting DMac and Marcel will be the WR’s we are missing not Hagan or Gafney.

  230. RaiderDuck Says:

    Backstageatapuppetshow Says:
    September 5th, 2012 at 10:23 pm
    This is DA’s team…but probably Tarver’s defense….

    Just Sayin’

    =========================================

    No doubt the defensive schemes are a combination of their ideas.

  231. backstageatapuppetshow Says:

    No doubt they are a combination of more than that Duck…

    Nice Reply!

  232. Seymour Bush Says:

    RaiderDuck Says:
    September 5th, 2012 at 10:25 pm

    Backstageatapuppetshow Says:
    September 5th, 2012 at 10:23 pm
    This is DA’s team…but probably Tarver’s defense….

    Just Sayin’

    =========================================

    No doubt the defensive schemes are a combination of their ideas.
    ==========================================

    Probably one of the big reasons for the demise of DVD is the fact that Dennis Allen is known to be a very good coach of DB’s. If DA couldn’t coach him up, no other DB coaches in the league figured they could.

  233. xraided Says:

    no one is going to be a sack beast.

    however, i don’t doubt that DA had a lot of influence on that Bronco D last year(more than teboner did in any way) DA has the smarts to turn us arond. we need pressure around the edges to make the top of the league status in sacks again.

    the donkos boast a better D than us IMO… hopefully DMC will embarrass them like he usually does, so it won’t matter!

  234. MiamiRaider78 Says:

    RaiderDuck Says:
    September 5th, 2012 at 10:25 pm

    Backstageatapuppetshow Says:
    September 5th, 2012 at 10:23 pm
    This is DA’s team…but probably Tarver’s defense….

    Just Sayin’

    =========================================

    No doubt the defensive schemes are a combination of
    their ideas.

    =========================================
    Hope this is the case with Al Saunders and the offense. Would be awesome!

  235. xraided Says:

    Romo looked like a world beater tonight besides the 1 pick. i hope CP3 somewhat resembles him. beacause like Romo, we all know Carson is good for at least one bone headed throw that turns into points for the opposition every game. BUT, if he makes up for it later with 3 TDs, then nothing else matters. are our WR’s healthy yet? yeeesh.

  236. xraided Says:

    DA firmly believes in Knapp Miami.. and his ZBS and his WCO .. Saunders knows nothing of either and he hasn’t been a full on OC in many years. don’t hold you breath.

  237. Twinkle Says:

    alex7 Says:
    September 5th, 2012 at 10:22 pm

    Predicted cowboys 30 giants 17.
    Not bad.

    Chargers 27. Raiders 20.

    Still a fan though but they’re better at te, wr, qb, lb, and overall D.
    We’re better at rb and the rest is a wash.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    You are obviously not sold on the ‘new’ defense.
    Rivers may be in for a real bad night unless they can
    get both the Tackles blocked and their Rook Tackle can
    handle Shonasty and they develop a running game with
    whomever.As I see it they are pushing sh!t uphill.
    In the ‘Hole’ with no film to prep with I reckon Rivers will be lucky to see the half.

  238. DJ Johnny Says:

    Our D is paid more than Denver’s. Therefore we should be better.

    I’m jesting but i’m not.

  239. RaiderDebo Says:

    DJ Johnny Says:
    September 5th, 2012 at 9:41 pm
    PlunkforHOF Says:
    September 5th, 2012 at 9:24 pm
    Cowboys better tonite than I thought they were.

    Yeah I know, but the Giants looked lifeless…no spunk or fire…or energy.

    Cowboys wanted revenge and Giants are all content with their SB and thought they could mail it in.
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Huh??? What game were you watching? This game had nothing to do with the Giants lacking “spunk” or “fire”. The Dallas D was outstanding. The $50 million they spent on Carr looks like a bargain. Claiborne didn’t look too bad either. Amazing how those two players make this a whole new D. On the flip side, Romo and his receivers made mincemeat out of NY’s garbage corners. Better team won, period.

  240. Intrepid Says:

    xraided Says: DA firmly believes in Knapp Miami.. and his ZBS and his WCO .. Saunders knows nothing of either////////////////I’m finding that hard to believe.

  241. xraided Says:

    RaiderDuck Says:
    September 5th, 2012 at 10:25 pm
    Backstageatapuppetshow Says:
    September 5th, 2012 at 10:23 pm
    This is DA’s team…but probably Tarver’s defense….

    Just Sayin’

    =========================================

    No doubt the defensive schemes are a combination of their ideas.

    _______________________

    if it’s hard to stop the Doltz offense monday night with a missing top RB, 2 rookie OL(one of them covering Rivers’ blindside), with no more VJ(the other raider killer) or a healthy Gates… god help us.

  242. DJ Johnny Says:

    Palmer 32 td’s 12 int’s 3,800 yds.

    Manning (Peyton) 28 td’s 10 int’s 3,700 yds.

    Granted… those are 2005 numbers.

    Point is it’s in him…somewhere.

  243. backstageatapuppetshow Says:

    xraided Says:
    September 5th, 2012 at 10:32 pm

    DA firmly believes in Knapp Miami.. and his ZBS and his WCO .. Saunders knows nothing of either and he hasn’t been a full on OC in many years. don’t hold you breath.

    ____________________________________________________________

    I think part of the reason Allen brought in Knapp was his familiarity with the Raiders organization….that being said…I don’t think DA is going to have any issue’s with adjusting his coordinators if he feels it is necessary….

    I think Allen is a fiery guy….seen glimpses of it in pre season….

    He will not hesitate to make a move if things aren’t going the way they should…

  244. xraided Says:

    Saunders is a vertical passing game guy.

    when has he ever ran a WCO?

    maybe a ZBS at some point, but i’m pretty sure he’s about power blocking as well.

  245. backstageatapuppetshow Says:

    While we do not have speed pass rushers…..we do have power rushers….this helps against pocket passers….hurts us when their is a more mobile QB….Rivers is a pocket passer…

  246. Twinkle Says:

    xraided Says:
    September 5th, 2012 at 10:35 pm

    RaiderDuck Says:
    September 5th, 2012 at 10:25 pm
    Backstageatapuppetshow Says:
    September 5th, 2012 at 10:23 pm
    This is DA’s team…but probably Tarver’s defense….

    Just Sayin’

    =========================================

    No doubt the defensive schemes are a combination of their ideas.

    _______________________

    if it’s hard to stop the Doltz offense monday night with a missing top RB, 2 rookie OL(one of them covering Rivers’ blindside), with no more VJ(the other raider killer) or a healthy Gates… god help us.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Yes that’s what I was trying to say.More concise and without my verbosity.

  247. xraided Says:

    i have no doubht that DA is going to be a good HC and will make adjustments when needed. it just seems since he’s a defensive minded HC, that it’s only nature to hand the keys to the knappy nap state of mind O. RUN RUN RUN PUNT … we suffered through it once. if it isn’t working, one would hope DA would pull the plug. Knapp got demoted once, it can happen again.

    timing routes versus the vertical passing game from last yaers offense. we’ll see what it can do with 4 injured receivers, lol

  248. DJ Johnny Says:

    239,

    Didn’t mean to offend your favorite team there Debo but the NYG seemed lifeless…in their demeanor and the way they looked. It could have been they were more gassed. That was my honest impression. I don’t care either way…i don’t like either team so i have no emotional investment.

    Dallas was better tonight. Doesn’t make them a better team overall. When KC beat GB last yr did it mean they are the better team…period?

    You don’t have to be such a dik. Sorry I touched a nerve with your beloved cowboys.

  249. xraided Says:

    Twinkle,

    i bet we’ll be fine. it is only week 1. i’d rather end strong and start crappy like the NYG did last year! 9-7 wins the SB. anything is possible now! they got all their players healthy WHEN IT MATTERED at the end. they just kept their head above water throughout. remains to be seen if we can tread water without our stars in play!

  250. MiamiRaider78 Says:

    xraided Says:
    September 5th, 2012 at 10:32 pm

    DA firmly believes in Knapp Miami.. and his ZBS and his WCO .. Saunders knows nothing of either and he hasn’t been a full on OC in many years. don’t hold you breath.

    ======================
    I realized that when he hired Knapp but I never understood why we headed so far off of the path of what we did here last year. We were explosive on offensee (under the circumstances) and I thought for sure Al was kept to go over and maybe implement some of what worked here under Hue, to what we will do this season.

  251. Twinkle Says:

    xraided I think we may have been b/sing the league with our purebred WCO.Last time I looked CP didn’t conjure up memories of JoMo.For one CP can score from our own endzone.It’ll be some kind of hybrid….only a fool tries
    to make strawberry sodas with lemons.Zone or Power?Who cares?As long it gives us an edge.

  252. Twinkle Says:

    xraided Says:
    September 5th, 2012 at 10:43 pm

    Twinkle,

    i bet we’ll be fine. it is only week 1. i’d rather end strong and start crappy like the NYG did last year! 9-7 wins the SB. anything is possible now! they got all their players healthy WHEN IT MATTERED at the end. they just kept their head above water throughout. remains to be seen if we can tread water without our stars in play!
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    I do too.I just can’t help but remember all the baseball teams that said ‘if we could have only won a couple more at the beginning’.1-0 rips…0-1 means it has become a fourteen game season.9-7 is putrid….so were the gigantes…..cept when it mattered.Kind of dilutes the entire game when those losers make the playoffs and GB goes 15-1.

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