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	<title>Comments on: Bartell set to miss significant time, too</title>
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		<title>By: Dmac2008</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2012/09/11/bartell-set-to-miss-significant-time-too/comment-page-16/#comment-1038653</link>
		<dc:creator>Dmac2008</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 19:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: DJ Johnny</title>
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		<dc:creator>DJ Johnny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 18:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>750.Jaysohn Says: 
September 12th, 2012 at 11:00 am 
Actually they did show a shot of Goethel working on snapping on the sideline. And please let’s stop going crazy asking for Knapp to get fired already. What did you expect to happen with a rookie free agent and a journeymen possession guy as 2 of your top 3 wideouts??? I know we all want instant success but it’s going to take sometime to fix the mess the old man left behind.
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The &quot;out of whack&quot; contracts? Yes, but the only significant guys that were lost from an 8-8 team which was one defensive stop from the AFC West title are the leader in PI penalties (Routt) and a pass rusher who had ONE GAME where he stood out (Wimbley). Curry being out has nothing to do with anything &quot;the old man&quot; did.

We lost our TE (Boss) which could be indirectly attributed to &quot;the old man&quot; and him creating a bad cap situation that would not allow us to keep him, and we also lost Bush. If u wanna say that is &quot;the old man&#039;s&quot; fault then ok, but essentially this is the same team from last season.

THIS IS NOT A 3-13 EXPANSION TEAM Reggie inherited no matter how much you guys wanna exempt Reggie from any culpability for how this season turns out.

Geez. When are we going to expect more from who we have now and quit blaming Al Davis for everything.

We were 8-8 two yrs. in a row. NOT 3-13 and on the downslide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>750.Jaysohn Says:<br />
September 12th, 2012 at 11:00 am<br />
Actually they did show a shot of Goethel working on snapping on the sideline. And please let’s stop going crazy asking for Knapp to get fired already. What did you expect to happen with a rookie free agent and a journeymen possession guy as 2 of your top 3 wideouts??? I know we all want instant success but it’s going to take sometime to fix the mess the old man left behind.<br />
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The &#8220;out of whack&#8221; contracts? Yes, but the only significant guys that were lost from an 8-8 team which was one defensive stop from the AFC West title are the leader in PI penalties (Routt) and a pass rusher who had ONE GAME where he stood out (Wimbley). Curry being out has nothing to do with anything &#8220;the old man&#8221; did.</p>
<p>We lost our TE (Boss) which could be indirectly attributed to &#8220;the old man&#8221; and him creating a bad cap situation that would not allow us to keep him, and we also lost Bush. If u wanna say that is &#8220;the old man&#8217;s&#8221; fault then ok, but essentially this is the same team from last season.</p>
<p>THIS IS NOT A 3-13 EXPANSION TEAM Reggie inherited no matter how much you guys wanna exempt Reggie from any culpability for how this season turns out.</p>
<p>Geez. When are we going to expect more from who we have now and quit blaming Al Davis for everything.</p>
<p>We were 8-8 two yrs. in a row. NOT 3-13 and on the downslide.</p>
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		<title>By: DJ Johnny</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2012/09/11/bartell-set-to-miss-significant-time-too/comment-page-16/#comment-1038531</link>
		<dc:creator>DJ Johnny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 18:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arnchair,


I&#039;m wih ya but where are u seeing this criticism of Knapp in the media?

Are we misunderstanding you?  You seemed to be saying it already exists out there.</description>
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<p>I&#8217;m wih ya but where are u seeing this criticism of Knapp in the media?</p>
<p>Are we misunderstanding you?  You seemed to be saying it already exists out there.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaysohn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jaysohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 18:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually they did show a shot of Goethel working on snapping on the sideline. And please let&#039;s stop going crazy asking for Knapp to get fired already. What did you expect to happen with a rookie free agent and a journeymen possession guy as 2 of your top 3 wideouts???  I know we all want instant success but it&#039;s going to take sometime to fix the mess the old man left behind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually they did show a shot of Goethel working on snapping on the sideline. And please let&#8217;s stop going crazy asking for Knapp to get fired already. What did you expect to happen with a rookie free agent and a journeymen possession guy as 2 of your top 3 wideouts???  I know we all want instant success but it&#8217;s going to take sometime to fix the mess the old man left behind.</p>
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		<title>By: DJ Johnny</title>
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		<dc:creator>DJ Johnny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 17:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not advocating PANIC but it seems like kind of an attitude of &quot;we&#039;ll be fine, just get ready for Miami and all is good&quot;.

DA mentioned at his post game presser that Moore could&#039;ve played but he decided to keep him out cuz &quot;it&#039;s a long season&quot; and &quot;it&#039;s a marathon not a sprint&quot;.

I totally get that you don&#039;t wanna have a key guy risk severe injury by throwing him out there too soon....I do, but...I hope that DA realizes...and Palmer too (since he made the &quot;marathon&quot; comment as well) that this game against Miami is HUUUUUUGE...&quot;IF&quot; this team has playoff aspirations.

There is not time to talk about &quot;everythings fine... we&#039;ll be there in the end&quot; if you lose to Miami and you have Peyton Manning and the Pittsburgh waiting in the wings.

And let&#039;s be honest. If we can&#039;t beat SD at home in the &quot;New Era of Excellence&quot; debut in front of a packed house at O.Co. and can&#039;t beat Miami in a &quot;must win&quot; game, what are our chances of taking care of Manning and outsmarting Dick LeBeau?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not advocating PANIC but it seems like kind of an attitude of &#8220;we&#8217;ll be fine, just get ready for Miami and all is good&#8221;.</p>
<p>DA mentioned at his post game presser that Moore could&#8217;ve played but he decided to keep him out cuz &#8220;it&#8217;s a long season&#8221; and &#8220;it&#8217;s a marathon not a sprint&#8221;.</p>
<p>I totally get that you don&#8217;t wanna have a key guy risk severe injury by throwing him out there too soon&#8230;.I do, but&#8230;I hope that DA realizes&#8230;and Palmer too (since he made the &#8220;marathon&#8221; comment as well) that this game against Miami is HUUUUUUGE&#8230;&#8221;IF&#8221; this team has playoff aspirations.</p>
<p>There is not time to talk about &#8220;everythings fine&#8230; we&#8217;ll be there in the end&#8221; if you lose to Miami and you have Peyton Manning and the Pittsburgh waiting in the wings.</p>
<p>And let&#8217;s be honest. If we can&#8217;t beat SD at home in the &#8220;New Era of Excellence&#8221; debut in front of a packed house at O.Co. and can&#8217;t beat Miami in a &#8220;must win&#8221; game, what are our chances of taking care of Manning and outsmarting Dick LeBeau?</p>
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		<title>By: r8eray</title>
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		<dc:creator>r8eray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 17:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DennisAllensVisor Says: 
September 12th, 2012 at 10:37 am
Man, that Streater fumble was huge.


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Yeah it was...that drive was a TD drive!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DennisAllensVisor Says:<br />
September 12th, 2012 at 10:37 am<br />
Man, that Streater fumble was huge.</p>
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<p>Yeah it was&#8230;that drive was a TD drive!!</p>
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		<title>By: JT</title>
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		<dc:creator>JT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 17:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Knapps only relation to glory is that he worked in SF, under a Bill Walsh system, under Mariucci...

Other than that, he is a QB coach at most.

I wish the guy no ill feelings, but he has no business operating a modern offense vs these pressure defenses of nowadays</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Knapps only relation to glory is that he worked in SF, under a Bill Walsh system, under Mariucci&#8230;</p>
<p>Other than that, he is a QB coach at most.</p>
<p>I wish the guy no ill feelings, but he has no business operating a modern offense vs these pressure defenses of nowadays</p>
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		<title>By: Marks hair</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marks hair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 17:46:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I donk get these so called raider fans mocking other fans whith these the sky is falling taunts..  i get sick and have head and back pain when we lose..  dont mock me for being upset about us not being playoff calaber yet again.. you may not care if we stink. But some of us do!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I donk get these so called raider fans mocking other fans whith these the sky is falling taunts..  i get sick and have head and back pain when we lose..  dont mock me for being upset about us not being playoff calaber yet again.. you may not care if we stink. But some of us do!</p>
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		<title>By: Born with a Patch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Born with a Patch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 17:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SnB offense defense specialteams Says: 
September 12th, 2012 at 10:38 am

I also remember the duds in Green Bay and Miami as well.

+++++++++++++++++

Good point. But it didn&#039;t help when his QB was throwing into quadruple coverage. I was at the Green Bay game and Carson looked pathetic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SnB offense defense specialteams Says:<br />
September 12th, 2012 at 10:38 am</p>
<p>I also remember the duds in Green Bay and Miami as well.</p>
<p>+++++++++++++++++</p>
<p>Good point. But it didn&#8217;t help when his QB was throwing into quadruple coverage. I was at the Green Bay game and Carson looked pathetic.</p>
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		<title>By: RAIDERMAN99</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 17:43:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not a fan of KNAPP however, the sky is still blue, and in place.
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Of course the sky is still blue.

The problem is, it&#039;s covered with nasty looking clouds.

But even now, in the midst of a Krapp storm - we must keep our spirits up...

EVERY CLOUD HAS A SILVER AND BLACK LINING !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not a fan of KNAPP however, the sky is still blue, and in place.<br />
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Of course the sky is still blue.</p>
<p>The problem is, it&#8217;s covered with nasty looking clouds.</p>
<p>But even now, in the midst of a Krapp storm &#8211; we must keep our spirits up&#8230;</p>
<p>EVERY CLOUD HAS A SILVER AND BLACK LINING !</p>
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