Condo suffers concussion, Bartell having MRI, other notes
By Steve Corkran
Tuesday, September 11th, 2012 at 2:23 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Raiders coach Dennis Allen said long-snapper Jon Condo suffered a concussion and that Condo won’t play against the Miami Dolphins unless he gets cleared by doctors.
Until then, the plan is to decide whether to take a look at some of the free-agent long-snappers or give Travis Goethel another shot, if needed.
“We’ve obviously got some plans in place in case he’s not ready to play,” Allen said.
One of those is to give Goethel more meaningful practice time. Punter Shane Lechler said Goethel received “zero” snaps during full-team drills. Goethel said his snapping was limited to before full-team practices started.
To that end, Allen said he didn’t do a good enough job preparing Goethel for being thrust into a game. Goethel entered the game midway through the second quarter Monday night, and he bounced two snaps to Lechler, which resulted in aborted plays.
A third snap floated to Lechler, whose punt was blocked off his foot, with the Chargers winding up with the ball deep in Raiders territory.
“That falls on me,” Allen said in reference to Goethel not being better prepared. “I’ve got to do a better job of making sure we’re prepared for all those different situations. We practiced Travis snapping the ball but we could have probably done a better job of putting him in more live-type situations and giving him the opportunity to do it, kind of representing what he would do in a regular game.”
– Starting cornerback Ron Bartell suffered a shoulder injury Monday night. Allen said Bartell is undergoing an MRI today.
It’s unclear whether Bartell will be able to play against the Dolphins. If not, veteran Pat Lee is expected to start. Lee replaced Bartell against the Chargers.
“Hey, listen, we’ve got NFL football players on our roster and we expect them to go out and play like NFL players,” Allen said. “He went out and did a pretty good job last night against a pretty good group of receivers and a pretty good passing game.”
– With Jacoby Ford expected to miss a “significant” amount of time now that he is having foot surgery, Allen said it’s time to rethink whether the Raiders have enough firepower with the five wide receivers currently on the 53-man roster.
“We’re going to look at everybody that’s available, and if we feel like there’s somebody that can help us, give us a chance to be better and help this team win, then we’re going to do that,” Allen said.
Allen didn’t rule out the possibility of signing veteran wide receiver Chad Johnson.
“If he fits that category, then I wouldn’t rule anything out,” Allen said.
Johnson was waived by the Miami Dolphins in training camp. He played with Raiders quarterback Carson Palmer in Cincinnati from 2003-2010.
Allen also didn’t rule out the possibility of signing either Brandon Carswell or Travionte Session from the practice squad to take Ford’s spot.
– Running back Taiwan Jones fumbled the opening kick-off Monday night and later mishandled the toss on a reverse from fullback Marcel Reece — in fairness, Reece’s pitch wasn’t easy to handle.
Allen said that factored in to Jones not getting any touches in the run or passing game. It was believed that Jones secured the No. 2 spot, behind Darren McFadden. However, Mike Goodson got two carries Monday night.
– Allen said he was aware of the rule that permits the receiving team an untimed down if a game ends on a punt, with the kicking team touching the ball first.
However, he wasn’t aware of the fact that it was the Chargers that touched the ball first Monday night on the final play of the game. Hence, he didn’t plead his case with the officials.
“I knew the rule that if they touched the ball first that it was illegal touching, and we should’ve been awarded another play,” Allen said. “I wasn’t sure exactly who touched the ball first when it happened in the game, and it was later that I realized it was them that touched the ball first.”
– Allen said he is “very hopeful” that wide receiver Denarius Moore will be able to play Sunday against the Dolphins.
Allen contemplated using Moore against the Chargers. However, he opted against rushing him back after Moore missed more than a month with a hamstring injury.
– Center Stefen Wisniewski was active Monday night, yet Alex Parsons started at center. Allen said that competition remains open for the long-term starting job.
Wisniewski will receive more reps in practice this week in an attempt to get in football shape. Wisniewski missed all of the offseason workouts while recovering from shoulder surgery. He also played only one series in Oakland’s four exhibition games and practiced for two weeks before shutting it down with a calf injury.
– The Raiders made stopping the run a huge priority in the offseason. The initial returns are quite encouraging.
The Chargers called 19 run plays and netted only 34 yards. Yes, the Chargers were without lead back Ryan Mathews, but the Raiders still played well, by all accounts.
“It was good,” Allen said. “Our ability to stop the run a lot of times with six men, or seven men, in the box was a good thing. Our front, as well as our linebackers, did a nice job of understanding what the run fits were and understanding the schemes that they were getting. We got to continue to play the run that way.”
– Of all the things that could have went wrong for the Raiders, having trouble snapping the ball on punts wasn’t high on Allen’s list.
“I didn’t lay asleep at night dreaming about that, that’s for sure,” Allen said. “But that’s the NFL. Injuries happen. You’ve got to be prepred for just about anything. We’ll be more prepared for that next time it comes up.”
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September 11th, 2012 at 2:24 pm
September 11th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
I’ve never spread unmerited rumors.
Your choice to believe.
Moving along.
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Unless you have a link, a source, or some proof at this point to substantiate you’re claims, then suspending the conspiracy theory talk is prudent.
September 11th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
John David Booty Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
Bruce Campbell was a beast for Carolina all preseason and will probably be a starter for them for a few years, at least.
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This explains why he’s buried on the depth chart behind a 2011 UDFA…
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Not really.
Looks like you just did a quick google search without knowing much about the situation.
I actually watched Bruce play this preseason, did you? Did you also know that Byron Bell, the 2011 UDFA that you are referencing, is actually a good player and had already won the RT job last year? Did you also know that there was a battle all preseason, because Campbell was close to supplanting Bell as the starter?
Look, man, I like to WATCH football. I dont just come on blogs and say sh!t just to say it. I know thats popular on this blog, but thats not my forte. Get at me anytime you want to talk football.
September 11th, 2012 at 2:28 pm
FRY THE FISH!!!
IN REGGIE WE TRUST!!!
September 11th, 2012 at 2:28 pm
“Until then, the plan is to decide whether to take a look at some of the free-agent long-snappers or give Travis Goethel another shot, if needed.”
Good one, Steve.
September 11th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
Unless we come out of the next three weeks 2-2 we are DONE. That means beating Miami like we should, and then knocking of Pitt or Dungver.
Since i am going to be in Dungver for that game, you know which game I hope we win!
September 11th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
Nothing on Knapp yet? He has some explaining to do.
September 11th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
FIRE THE SPECIAL TEAMS COACH NOW!
GIVE CONDO A RAISE! CONDO FOR MVP!
September 11th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
Welcome to the stinkcapades! $10 bucks a beer!
September 11th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
Dakota Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
Unless we come out of the next three weeks 2-2 we are DONE. That means beating Miami like we should, and then knocking of Pitt or Dungver.
Since i am going to be in Dungver for that game, you know which game I hope we win!
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All 3 of those teams have a better D than the one we couldnt score against last night. MIA has one of the best run D’s in the league. Will not be a walk in the park, especially not with the game plan I saw last night.
September 11th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
I remember reading last year, Ford saying he thought Campbell was treated unfairly, or something of that nature.
September 11th, 2012 at 2:33 pm
Do you guys think in 20 years that game will be referred to as the ‘Condo’ game??
May have just concussed himself into Raider lore.
September 11th, 2012 at 2:33 pm
KrappyRat worrying about Ice Cupes mic turning off
Old fool probably tried to do the Lindy Hop in the aisles to his performance
Can’t keep an old sailor down, holla
September 11th, 2012 at 2:33 pm
Fire hoffman!!!!!!
September 11th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
Giants lost by 7 and Green Bay lost by 8. Wonder if their fans want to blow up those teams, players, and coaches?
September 11th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
SaintKaufman Says: Do you guys think in 20 years that game will be referred to as the ‘Condo’ game??////////////At the minimum. As in ‘Condo’ minimum.
September 11th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
Purvisman Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
Giants lost by 7 and Green Bay lost by 8. Wonder if their fans want to blow up those teams, players, and coaches?
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Those teams and those fans haven’t been miserable over the last 10 – 11 years, have they?
September 11th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
Expect a lot of passing next week as well. Miami has a serious run D. They can also pressure the QB so the game plan may be very similar to last night. Should be pretty effective and get us the win.
September 11th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
Knee slapper Purv!
September 11th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
Campbell was treated unfairly? Were we supposed to just roll with Boller for 10 weeks and kiss the season goodbye to keep insecure Jason Campbell happy?
September 11th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
I’ll say it again, it’s our OL.
Palmer said as much in his presser. SD was not giving up anything deep. We should have been able to run the ball and we stunk.
September 11th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
I remember reading last year, Ford saying he thought Campbell was treated unfairly, or something of that nature.
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Shh..
Your gonna be asked to provide a link.
September 11th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
Dakota SaysSince i am going to be in Dungver for that game, you know which game I hope we win!///////You’re hoping for both, if not all three.
September 11th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
Fire everyone after the first week of the season! That’ll solve everything! Then cut all of the players except the ones I like! Then trade for better players! Sign all the free agents, too!
September 11th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
You do not make wholesale changes to a team that improved to 8-8 the last two years, just like gruden when he improved the team to 8-8 you make a couple more moves.you do not get rid of a st coach who is doing well or place a good oc behind a guy who has never been good.if we correct those moves we still can be alright because the d was great and can be with help from the offense.no wonder they said hagan caught on to the offense so fast there were only 3 plays.
September 11th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
Anyway, Reece was given a 1 year extension.
Woopty-doo.
September 11th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
canadianraider Says:
cheers purvisman….we all have our opinion and i respect urs..but top 10 ??????
rodgers…brady….brees…newton…stafford…eli and peyton manning…romo(maybe)..rivers…big ben….ryan….schaub….cutler….flacco..and even a young rg3 and luck….all ahead of palmer…thats about 15 ahead of palmer…too much for the picks we gave up…thats my opinion////////Cheers back to you and I respect yours, also. If RG3 and Luck are in there because of potential and/or productive years left, then TPryor could be included and Peyton excluded. Romo, despite his play on Wednesday is less than a maybe. Cutler, Schaub, Ryan, Stafford, Newton? and more are in the mix but not demonstrably better. And that’s my opinion.
September 11th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
If we really want to get crazy, we should fire Hoffman and hire the special teams coach from the Steelers that was suddenly released this pre-season. That would get the fan base fired up. Knapp, for better or worse, is safe for the immediate future.
September 11th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
Fire everyone after the first week of the season! That’ll solve everything! Then cut all of the players except the ones I like! Then trade for better players! Sign all the free agents, too!
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Now your getting it! Just put one foot(in your mouth) in front of the other, and soon you’ll be drafting #1!
LOL! Sorry man, just popped in my head!
September 11th, 2012 at 2:40 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
Kneejerk reactions all over the place here. Very little in the way of real analysis or insight.
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Not Kneejerk. If the Raiders showed any ability to score in the preseason, maybe. But they’ve shown an inability to score, all preseason. Come out on the National TV opener, against a Div Rival, and can’t score.
September 11th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
Now your getting it! Just put one foot(in your mouth) in front of the other, and soon you’ll be drafting #1!
LOL! Sorry man, just popped in my head!
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#1 PICK = GENO SMITH IS A RAIDER, HE PLAYED ONE GOOD GAME WHICH MEANS HE IS THA BEST EVARRRRRRRR
September 11th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
The entire transition of the offense was handled improperly.
The majority of our weapons on offense including the QB were drafted using the Al Davis, vertical, stretch the field, power scheme philosophy.
We do not have the player personnel to fully implement what Knapp is trying to do!
Saunders should have been made the OC with Knapp as HIS adviser, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND!!!
Then Knapp’s plan could be slowly integrated over the next season or two as we acquire the best players to implement that scheme!
This entire thing was handled completely AZZ BACKWARDS from the start!!!
As a result…J Raider has started the OFFICIAL:
“FIRE”, “DEMOTE”, “RELIEVE OF PLAYCALLING DUTIES” GREG KNAPP” PETITION!!!
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September 11th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
KoolKell Says: Not Kneejerk. If the Raiders showed any ability to score in the preseason, maybe. But they’ve shown an inability to score, all preseason. Come out on the National TV opener, against a Div Rival, and can’t score.////////////That’s because of Al Davis’ outdated system, isn’t it?
September 11th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
Not Kneejerk. If the Raiders showed any ability to score in the preseason, maybe. But they’ve shown an inability to score, all preseason. Come out on the National TV opener, against a Div Rival, and can’t score.
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Demanding two coordinators be fired after week one is a kneejerk reaction.
September 11th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
Steve Corkran @CorkOnTheNFL
#Raiders defense tied for third against the run at 32 yards. Made stopping the run a massive priority in the offseason. Nice start.
September 11th, 2012 at 2:45 pm
YA,
They’ve wanted Knapp fired since…wait, when did they hire him?
September 11th, 2012 at 2:45 pm
Knapp was the OC is SF fron 01′ – 03′. they went #3 in scoring in 01′, 13th in scoring in 02′, and 9th in scoring in 03′
Knapp was OC in Atlanta from 04′ – 06′.
04′ Atl was 16th in scoring
05′ Atl was 14th in scoring
06′ Atl was 25th in scoring.\
Kanpp was OC in Oakland 07′ – 08′
07′ Oak was 23rd in scoring
08′ Oak was 29th in scoring
Knapp was OC in Seattle in 09′
09′ Sea was 25th in scoring
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/
September 11th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
YoungAmerican, we can’t both gang up on KK. What if everybody else joined in? Oh, wait…
September 11th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
We went fom the bed & breakfast offense
to the Nappy Time zzzzz offense
September 11th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
Eliminate one blocked punt, the Streater and Jones fumbles, and even a couple of the drops and you’re looking at a VASTLY different game. Those mistakes had nothing to do with the playcalling.
Could the playcalling have been better? Absolutely. Was the playcalling the main reason the Raiders lost? Not by a longshot.
September 11th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
I remember reading last year, Ford saying he thought Campbell was treated unfairly, or something of that nature.
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Shh..
Your gonna be asked to provide a link.
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Do either of you have a link, source, or other intel to substantiate the claims made by DAV???
If not it is ALL speculation.
September 11th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
Mr Green is sick about seeing his beloved Raidahs come down with and suffer with the malady called knappalittis fukkamea schiitoreah nobaginalessita assodumba whatthefukkagottatakaitauppatherear dammalittis. No schiitoreah
September 11th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
Not Kneejerk. If the Raiders showed any ability to score in the preseason, maybe. But they’ve shown an inability to score, all preseason. Come out on the National TV opener, against a Div Rival, and can’t score.
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Demanding two coordinators be fired after week one is a kneejerk reaction.
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Fair enough, but when will you be concerned?
September 11th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
Eliminate one blocked punt, the Streater and Jones fumbles, and even a couple of the drops and you’re looking at a VASTLY different game. Those mistakes had nothing to do with the playcalling.
Could the playcalling have been better? Absolutely. Was the playcalling the main reason the Raiders lost? Not by a longshot.
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Stop making sense.
They dont like it when you make statments that are rational.
September 11th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
What worries me is seeing McFadden’s body language after hitting a SD wall over and over again. He looked extremely frustrated and by the end of the 3rd Qtr looked very tired. Im afraid that if Knapp keeps abusing him the way he did yesterday McF won’t last long. That, and he might eventually check out and just wait for the year to be over so that he can go sign with someone else in the offseason.
Why not call plays that helps your best player do his best? I just don’t get it…
September 11th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
I said all preseason that I was expecting Dink & Dunk……, well guess what?
That’s not kneejerk. It’s not like we’ve never seen Knapp before.
September 11th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
Here’s what I like.
Tommy Kelly extends a SD drive TWICE? Sit down, big man. Bilukidi finished out the half in his place.
Jones fumbles a ball that hits him in the hands? He doesn’t see another offensive snap until late in the game.
Clayton makes a dumb personal foul penalty? He gets reamed out on the sideline by his coach.
This is what accountability looks like. Brand new thing for this young Raiders team. Takes time to build smart, responsible players, but this is a big aspect of it.
September 11th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
KoolKell Says: Purvisman says; Giants lost by 7 and Green Bay lost by 8. Wonder if their fans want to blow up those teams, players, and coaches?
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Those teams and those fans haven’t been miserable over the last 10 – 11 years, have they?///////////////HOW EXACTLY does that matter with what you are going to do going forward???
September 11th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
@YoungAmerican
FF Question, if you could pick up one or what order:
Cobb, McCluster, Stephen Hill or Streeter?
September 11th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
The entire transition of the offense was handled improperly.
The majority of our weapons on offense including the QB were drafted using the Al Davis, vertical, stretch the field, power scheme philosophy.
We do not have the player personnel to fully implement what Knapp is trying to do!
Saunders should have been made the OC with Knapp as HIS adviser, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND!!!
Then Knapp’s plan could be slowly integrated over the next season or two as we acquire the best players to implement that scheme!
This entire thing was handled completely AZZ BACKWARDS from the start!!!
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What concerns me is that our new GM and “bright” young head coach don’t even recognize that.
It’s just common sense. You’d think they would at least have THAT!
September 11th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
I think I just heard Terrell Owens phone ringing.
September 11th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 2:45 pm
Knapp was the OC is SF fron 01′ – 03′. they went #3 in scoring in 01′, 13th in scoring in 02′, and 9th in scoring in 03′
Knapp was OC in Atlanta from 04′ – 06′.
04′ Atl was 16th in scoring
05′ Atl was 14th in scoring
06′ Atl was 25th in scoring.\
Kanpp was OC in Oakland 07′ – 08′
07′ Oak was 23rd in scoring
08′ Oak was 29th in scoring
Knapp was OC in Seattle in 09′
09′ Sea was 25th in scoring
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/
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So it is clear to see that he has gotten worse by the year. So by those stats, we should be somewhere between 27th and 32nd in offense this year. Freaking Great.
September 11th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
Lol…game 1 huh…
September 11th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
@YoungAmerican
FF Question, if you could pick up one or what order:
Cobb, McCluster, Stephen Hill or Streeter?
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PPR?
Cobb, McCluster, Streeter, Hill.
Not PPR, you have the order right.
September 11th, 2012 at 2:53 pm
54.DennisAllensVisor Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
@YoungAmerican
FF Question, if you could pick up one or what order:
Cobb, McCluster, Stephen Hill or Streeter?
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PPR?
Cobb, McCluster, Streeter, Hill.
Not PPR, you have the order right.
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No PPR and thanks!
September 11th, 2012 at 2:53 pm
First post in a while, after yesterday I feel the need to vent.
First of all, I have never heard the Coliseum so loud, and it was very disheartening to hear it that quiet by the end. The crowd was completely taken out of the game by the 2nd quarter.
Secondly, the Chargers dropped 2 or 3 guys into deep zones the whole game, and Carson did not seem to trust his receivers enough to throw the ball into spots, thus he held on to the ball and checked down. Alot.
Thirdly, on the drive that Kelly jumped offsides twice, they also called us for defensive holding at the line of scrimmage. Correct me if I am wrong, but isn’t contact allowed w/in 5 yards?
Fourthly, the run defense was much better, players stayed in their gaps with the exception of the reverse, and it showed. Unfortunately the pass rush was nonexistent, and I think we all know that was the key to this game. Just look at the 2 matchups last year, getting to Rivers is how you beat SD.
McFadden seemed a lot more willing to run out of bounds, which is good, because he will get hurt touching the ball 28+ times every game.
People have been criticizing our lack of depth all offseason, and it really showed on our special teams last night. Rolling snaps, dropping kicks, blocked punts, it looked like freshman football.
All in all, a very worrisome debut, as most of the doubts about this team reared their ugly heads. I did think the pass protection was ok, Palmer held on to the ball a lot, and I really did not like how often we left a safety alone on Gates on 3rd down. He converted several key 3rd downs for them out of that matchup.
September 11th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
And if you Homers think you’re going to breeze into Miami, and everything is going to be hokey dokey…….Hope you’re right for a change.
September 11th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
Fair enough, but when will you be concerned?
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I’m already concerned. But it would be disingenuous of me to blame this loss on Knapp, no matter how unsatisfied I might be with him as a coordinator.
Knapp’s playcalling worked more times than not. Players need to finish.
Late in the game I would have liked to see more deep balls. But hard to throw a deep ball to a guy who isn’t open. Again – I’m waiting to reserve my judgement until GameRewind puts up the All-22 tape.
September 11th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
Yo Terrell,its Reggie Bottom lip.IS you still looking for a job?
September 11th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
JJ Watt says he got the Dolphins snap count from watching Hard Knocks.
September 11th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
Young American, I’m a big Bowie fan but don’t remember agreeing with you this much and seem to remember strongly disagreeing with you, but I don’t remember about what. However, you’re speaking the truth today.
September 11th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
Cobb has a lot of upside since he’s also being used at RB on third downs.
September 11th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
Correct me if I am wrong, but isn’t contact allowed w/in 5 yards?
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Not if the ball is in the air.
September 11th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
DAV
I just heard that, best believe our defenders will watch the game and how Watt played the snap.
September 11th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 2:45 pm
Knapp was the OC is SF fron 01′ – 03′. they went #3 in scoring in 01′, 13th in scoring in 02′, and 9th in scoring in 03′
Knapp was OC in Atlanta from 04′ – 06′.
04′ Atl was 16th in scoring
05′ Atl was 14th in scoring
06′ Atl was 25th in scoring.\
Kanpp was OC in Oakland 07′ – 08′
07′ Oak was 23rd in scoring
08′ Oak was 29th in scoring
Knapp was OC in Seattle in 09′
09′ Sea was 25th in scoring
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So Knapp road Steve’s offense in SF, and then rode Vick in Atlanta….but when he isn’t handed a good offense to destroy, or a team with a freak QB who ran all over the place, then he pretty much blows goats.
September 11th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
Correct me if I am wrong, but isn’t contact allowed w/in 5 yards?
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Not if the ball is in the air.
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I see. Still a frustrating call, as it was more of a throwaway by Rivers than anything, in a rare moment of Raider pressure on the QB.
September 11th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
TxRaider210 Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
DAV
I just heard that, best believe our defenders will watch the game and how Watt played the snap.
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Gotta think the Dolphins change it up.
September 11th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
Truth be told I haven’t seen a team look that out of sync, not prepared, with bone headed mistakes since Shell part 2, fkin pathetic
September 11th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
realtruraider Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
Truth be told I haven’t seen a team look that out of sync, not prepared, with bone headed mistakes since Shell part 2, fkin pathetic
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That’s absurd, and not close to accurate.
September 11th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
Knapp’s playcalling worked more times than not. Players need to finish.
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Yeah, they will move the ball between the 20’s, and settle for a field goal. After 10 minute drives.
Red Zone? forget it.
September 11th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
Keep in mind that nobody’s EVER called DA a shrinking violet. He may be 100% supportive of Knapp in public while tearing him a new one in private.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
Andre Carter worked out for Cardinals today.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
Man, Knapp rode Dmac like a govt mule. He aint gonna last.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
DAV
They will change the count for sure, but the rookie QB may struggle more if they change too much..
September 11th, 2012 at 3:01 pm
He hired that jackass,which makes him a jackass wich in turn makes reggie a jackass.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
which in turn makes you a jackass, doesn’t it?
September 11th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
You want to suck my what? Jackass.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
realtruraider Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
Truth be told I haven’t seen a team look that out of sync, not prepared, with bone headed mistakes since Shell part 2, fkin pathetic
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That’s absurd, and not close to accurate.
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Miami and Green Bay and San Diego last year?
September 11th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
Just how disappointing was last night? We wait all fuk’in year for the team to start anew and all we get is a lame offensive plan poorly implemented. I was leery of Knapp when he was announced as rejoining the team. Now I’m sure he doesn’t have a clue. He taken what was pretty good last year and destroyed it. He’s taking our one big weapon and is misusing and abusing him badly. We HAD a great o-line coach in here last year and they’ve replaced him with a coach and system that has failed here before badly. We bring on a potential elite QB gunslinger and tell him he can only shoot a .22. Our ST, which were fairly good last year had the coach replaced with new blood that is inept. We can’t seem to run a ST play without it being screwed up. Right now this team is a disaster. Yes, I know it’s only been one game but I can see backwards when it presents itself. Knapp and this offensive group of coaches have gutted our offense. Not only is it bad, it’s BORING! What a waste of talent.
On a positive note, our D did look much better even with the questionable new players that are in there. Kudos to the DC. You can also give DA some credit on that too. After all, he is a D minded HC and it showed. Too bad he doesn’t know squat about offense. Leaving Knapp in charge of our Offense will be our undoing. Reggie better step in quickly on the O side of things and make some coaching changes. IMO, we will NEVER be successful with Knapp at the controls. He’s failed here before & he’ll fail again. He’s NEVER been a successful OC anywhere else so why do they think he can do it now? That’s just dumb thinking. They need to replace Knapp with Saunders and go back to what works with our current personnel – Power Blocking. It may be too late to save this team this year. Too bad for us the fans, rebuilding always sucks. It’s actually worse than just losing, it’s embarrassing.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
Miami had 2 punt returns for 76 yards & a TD.
They had 6 kick returns for 155 yards.
We’re in trouble.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
realtruraider Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
Truth be told I haven’t seen a team look that out of sync, not prepared, with bone headed mistakes since Shell part 2, fkin pathetic
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That’s absurd, and not close to accurate.
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How the fk is it absurd? It was a complete schit fest. The Raiders teams I have watched the last few years never looked as lost as this team looked last night. THREE FKED UP PUNT SNAPS SAYS IT ALL. Plus the offense was hard to watch PERIOD
September 11th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
A lot of people trash the WCO and ZBS as schemes, which I think is very misguided.
My concern is more along the lines of how Knapp’s WCO meshes with some of the talent on the team. I actually think it’s a better fit for Palmer than a scheme that allows Palmer to take shots downfield, because that’s where he gets in trouble with turnovers. But his accuracy in the short/intermediate passing game is very good, and when he’s allowed to throw it to a spot he can be dangerous – he just has to trust that his receiver is going to be in that spot.
My concern is for players like DHB and Moore, who will have to be physical enough to get off jams at the LOS and still be in sync with Palmer timing-wise. If they can’t be precise with their routes from a timing standpoint, or at least manage to get body position on the defender, then a lot of the routes that WCO QBs rely on won’t be open. DHB and Moore both need to show more in this regard.
Barnes is a concern for me, as he has never been a very fleet-footed tackle – but now he’s going to be protecting Palmer on roll-outs? I also just don’t think Parsons is very good, but the Raiders had no choice here with Wiz missing so much time.
I like the TEs the Raiders have to work with – but why did it take Knapp so long to get them involved, and open up the middle of the field so that the WRs had more room to work outside the hashes?
Those are the questions I have. Will the players get better? Will Knapp adjust if they don’t? Those are the things that concern me more than assigning blame to any one coach or player.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
Knapp didnt destroy what we had last year.Reggie and Dennis Allen did that when they said they would hire Knapp.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
Here I was thinking the natl media was wrong about us and we know more than them and “this is a good team”… that can win the west, and it turns out we are actually worse than what the “experts” said.
SD is NOT even a very good team and we got our azzes kicked and looked like clowns doing it.
The only thing Reggie and DA have given us is more facetime on NFL ‘blooper’ videos.
Love that stern demeanor on DA’s face…yeah “we’re not gonna take this crap”.
You did.
Horrible debut for this bullschytt “new era of excellence”.
Sick of the org hyping up a team that can’t even come to play on MNF in front of a rabid packed house.
This team wasn’t ready for schytt…
“New Era” brings nothing but more misery and more “we’ll get better” cliches.
What’s so “new” about that? Not to mention “excellent”?
September 11th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
Dakota Says: then he pretty much blows goats./////Is that a Dakotaism? North or south?
September 11th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
realtruraider Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
realtruraider Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
Truth be told I haven’t seen a team look that out of sync, not prepared, with bone headed mistakes since Shell part 2, fkin pathetic
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That’s absurd, and not close to accurate.
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How the fk is it absurd? It was a complete schit fest. The Raiders teams I have watched the last few years never looked as lost as this team looked last night. THREE FKED UP PUNT SNAPS SAYS IT ALL. Plus the offense was hard to watch PERIOD
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You must have just started watching Raider football in the last 2 years.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
so… you guys drink the kool-aid, convince yourselves that we’re better than we really are…
then get angry when reality hits?
Kinda silly.
Like I said, we’ll be in the Matt Barkley running this year close to 6-10.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
#82. YOU LIKE the te’s we have.Figures.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
OK, let’s play this game. Let’s say Hue the genius was still here and SD played the exact same defense. When Palmer dropped back and continuously threw into double and triple coverage who would you guys want fired?? Hue or Palmer?
And yes, I know your out will be that Hue would have run the POWER BLOCKING SCHEME and everything would have been awesome and DMAC would have had 500 yards so Palmer would not have had to throw it but 3 times.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
#87 thats exactly what most of these weak minded morons did.I got called every name in the book when I told them they were dillusional.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
100PercentRaider Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
realtruraider Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
Truth be told I haven’t seen a team look that out of sync, not prepared, with bone headed mistakes since Shell part 2, fkin pathetic
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That’s absurd, and not close to accurate.
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Miami and Green Bay and San Diego last year?
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Different type of games, and no SD and Miami from last year wasn’t even close. Im just sayin from many aspects we just didn’t looked prepared and the coaches looked to be in over there head, The main two being KNAPP and the SPECIAL TEAMS COACH, Who the fk don’t we have a backup longsnapper?
September 11th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
The Chargers, on average, have had a top-6 defense the last 5 years.
They’re kinda good.
With no cap space, it was impossible to turn the team around in one season.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
Raiders barely tried to go deep.
San Diego’s linebackers keyed on McFadden runs and screens.
When Streater caught the pass and fumbled, th ere were 5-7 Chargers
September 11th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
#89 because we would have been able to run the ball effectivly with Hues Mcfadden.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:10 pm
#92 No,teams do it all the time,just not when they dont build on a top 10 offense and instead destroy it.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
We had more total yards, more rushing yards, more passing yards, fewer penalties, T.O.P. even..
But..yea… continue to over-react.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
I still think Tannehill throws a couple ducks this weekend, it’s up to our guys to grab them.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
Streater had a very rough first game. A UDFA rookie is going to make mistakes – Streater’s just came at the worst possible times.
He’s a good fit for the offense and I expect him to be a solid contributor going forward, but first he needs to learn to calm down and play like he did in practices.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
Purvisman Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
Giants lost by 7 and Green Bay lost by 8. Wonder if their fans want to blow up those teams, players, and coaches?
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The difference is those teams didn’t look like 3 Stooges and the Keystone Cops, losing.
All I ever hear is that it’s “fixable.” Yeah right.
Release Jacoby Ford now, and any other malingerers who want to sit around collecting wood splinters.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
No chad Johnson,done and done.
I want plaxico.
Also my dog is a better play caller than Knapp, unimaginative, and totally out of his league running an offense, there will be a revolt and Palmer heads that list, McFadden is pretty pissed too.
Linebackers again were fine, dline will not get better until we replace a couple of veterans…..guess which 2
I just don’t like the way the team competed especially offensively never ever looked like they could get control.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
Add Mr Green to the demand list to the no knapp time petition.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
RaiderDuck Says
Keep in mind that nobody’s EVER called DA a shrinking violet. He may be 100% supportive of Knapp in public while tearing him a new one in private.
///////Like that thought.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
Rational thoughts:
We need a right tackle. Barnes has been backup material for years.
We miss a healthy Wisnewski.
Our D is much-improved, particularly run D, due to zone and blitzes.
We miss Moore a lot.
Season will get better.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
Streater didn’t crumble after the fumble.
He made solid receptions, almost a couple of brilliant ones; sure handed catches for a touchdown and two point conversion.
Hagan a solid possession receiver;
Heyward-Bey okay;
With Moore, Raiders could have elite squad for years to come.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
After watching the game again one adjustment that I think would have helped is if Palmer took 1-2 more steps back in his drop. They were getting so much pressure nearly every play he had guys in his face a lot! Still threw some amazing passes.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
I seem to remember game 1 in Tenn 2 yrs ago( The Team stunk)And Game 1 last yr in Donktown ( won on a 63yrd Fg). Offense didn’t do very much either time… Just thinking …..me?.. Too soon for a judgement…
September 11th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
Dakota Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
Unless we come out of the next three weeks 2-2 we are DONE. That means beating Miami like we should, and then knocking of Pitt or Dungver.
Since i am going to be in Dungver for that game, you know which game I hope we win!
Dakota, where are your tix? I live inDenver and I will need as many Raider Homies as possible!!
I will be tailgating early like we do in Oaktown!!
September 11th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
alex7 Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
so… you guys drink the kool-aid, convince yourselves that we’re better than we really are…
then get angry when reality hits?
Kinda silly.
Like I said, we’ll be in the Matt Barkley running this year close to 6-10.
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I second that motion.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
Eliminate one blocked punt, the Streater and Jones fumbles, and even a couple of the drops and you’re looking at a VASTLY different game. Those mistakes had nothing to do with the playcalling.
Could the playcalling have been better? Absolutely. Was the playcalling the main reason the Raiders lost? Not by a longshot.
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your making good points YA but you are missing the main point. Last year we dominated SD in both games from an offensive standpoint with the Hue offense penalties and all. we took two steps back by firing Hue first of all then took one more back by hiring knapptime. This is why most fans are in a rage and imo your boy reggie mack is to blame because he tried to fix something that wasn’t broken. all Reggie had to do was hire a new DC and roll from there if that had been the case we SMASH sd and Mia too but now the offense is a great unknown and us fans are pissed about it because we had a dominant O in the making last year with a crap D now the D is holding up and it appears the O has taken a giant step back which means another wasted year for us and out of our star player (Dmac) career.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
SaintKaufman Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
After watching the game again one adjustment that I think would have helped is if Palmer took 1-2 more steps back in his drop. They were getting so much pressure nearly every play he had guys in his face a lot! Still threw some amazing passes.
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I think the lack of a deep drop helped the tackles with the edges.
You see what happened when the drops got deeper later in the game.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
You must have just started watching Raider football in the last 2 years.
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NO I have ben a die hard fan for 20 fkin years buddy, and I have ben one of the more positive posters on here, but maybe what I should of said is its the most dissapointing start/game of any coaching staff since Shell Part 2. I had much higher expectations for this coaching staff and now I have zero faith in them to put our players in the best situations to succeed. I am just really fkin heated right now because I had high hopes, not so much now, nothing will surprise me now.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:19 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
And if you Homers think you’re going to breeze into Miami, and everything is going to be hokey dokey
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as compared to honky dorey?
September 11th, 2012 at 3:19 pm
Our receivers will be fine, add plaxico even better, I feel bad for McFadden he will be worn down by game 3.
On a positive note I like tarver, and DA won’t take any crap, did you see how he went after Clayton after the personal foul.
And I agree with above that DA will have quite a talk with Knapp, notice in his conference some thoughts related to that, hope you read those.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:19 pm
After one frivin game.. this team is already in trouble.. what a disaster..
September 11th, 2012 at 3:19 pm
Well, I’ve had enough suicide talk for the day.
Raider Nation, and the chicken little’s too, God Bless.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:19 pm
I thought the same thing DAV.
Reckon that’s a problem that needs fixed and fast. Miami DE’s don’t mess around.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
Is Krapp going to be fired or stripped of his play calling duties anytime soon ?
NO.
That does not mean that people who are calling for his dismissal NOW are trolls or are wrong for doing so.
Truthfully, it’s probably too late to salvage the season by firing Krapp now. Realistically, the Raids would have to scrap Krapp’s ENTIRE system, as the problem goes deeper than just Krappy’s horrific play calling. His playbook SUCKS. Could they transition to, install, and effectively run Saunder’s famously thick playbook with good results in a reasonable amount of time ? Very doubtful.
Probably worth a try, as the 2012 season is doomed with Krapp as OC anyway – but the Raids are pretty much screwed either way.
I don’t mind being branded a troll for calling for Krapp’s dismissal. I said he should have never been hired to begin with and warned that a Krapp-storm was approaching throughout the pre-season and before yesterday’s debacle.
The great AL DAVIS said it was better to be right than consistent.
On the issue of Krapp, I’ve been consistent and I’ll be proven to be right as well.
He stinks and needs to go.
Before the season started I predicted a 7-9 record for the Raids.
I was being optimistic.
Krapp’s probably going to get DMAC killed. The defense will probably wear down from being on the field all day. There will be injuries (they’re unavoidable). This could get very very ugly in a hurry.
It’s a shame too, because this squad really isn’t that bad.
Am I being way too negative ? Perhaps. Only time will tell. But I’m not going to sugar coat things or be falsely optimistic. This ‘troll’ takes his Raiders seriously.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
Keep in mind that nobody’s EVER called DA a shrinking violet. He may be 100% supportive of Knapp in public while tearing him a new one in private.
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We can only hope so…
September 11th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
7-9… hue jack was a better coach….obviously.!!
September 11th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
To think we will beat the Broncos this year is ridiculous. Remember what they did to Big Ben during the Steelers’ last possession?
Why do you think they foisted DA on us? They jettisoned all inferior coaches during their 6 month re-build.
Elway must really be laughing now.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
alex7 Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
so… you guys drink the kool-aid, convince yourselves that we’re better than we really are…
then get angry when reality hits?
Kinda silly.
Like I said, we’ll be in the Matt Barkley running this year close to 6-10.
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With all respect that’s what we were led to believe…that we were better than this and it’s only human nature to have good expectations and be disappointed if and when they are not met. It happens all the time in many facets of life. UNLESS a person never expects any good to come from anywhere…which would be a pretty miserable existence..to never have any hope or belief that good things can happen.
Not trying to wax over philosophical about a sporting event, but i for one am disappointed. Isn’t the first time with these Raiders and won’t be the last i’m sure.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
The broncos..lol.. no ..imagine what the steelers will do to us..
September 11th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
How we could easily go 5-11…
at Dolphins = win (Reggie Bush will have 100 yds receiving)
vs Steelers = loss
at Broncos = loss
at Falcons = loss
vs Jaguars = win (tough game vs Jones-Drew and tough D)
at Chiefs = loss
vs Bucs = loss
at Ravens = loss
vs Saints = loss
at Bengals = win (no one will be surprised if we lose)
vs Browns = win (went toe to toe with Eagles)
vs Broncos = loss
vs Chiefs = win
at Panthers = loss
at Chargers = loss
September 11th, 2012 at 3:25 pm
Its obvious that this team is headed for greatness.
Last year last game same team same place and the defense stunk up the joint and we did not make the playoffs.
Well this year we shut them down and kicked butt. They are already scared thinking about the rematch in Raider home #2
A tweak here and a tweak there, get Moore healthy and the sky is the limit.
10-6 easily
September 11th, 2012 at 3:25 pm
alex7 Says: Like I said, we’ll be in the Matt Barkley running this year close to 6-10./////You a happy man, huh, Alex? Whiners took down the Pack.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:25 pm
AAAHHHHHHH!
Ok, glass is half full:
Played Great D
Penalty’s have gotten better
Can’t play any worse on Offense?
We will never have 3 bad snaps from the punt team.
Knapp is officially on watch. One more game of dink and dunk and Reggie will eat Knapp like a spring roll appetizer!!
September 11th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
RaiderNation
Be cool the end is not near
I repeat the end is not here
It was game one
It’s a marathon not a sprint
I thought we moved the ball pretty good the 1st 2nd & 4th
The 3rd we had a couple of miss throws miss communication between QB & WR which is expected in week 1
Ppl callin for coaches job wen they had no flim out on any team because no team really showed their hands in preason…coach are judged on a week to week bases on the adjustment they make!
So give the team a chance(yes knapp to) and see wut happens!!!
Cuz if the off. comes out and runs for 180 passes for 300 this week will be forgotten
Same as if the Dee. Comes and allow Reggie Bush to run lik he did last season they won’t be getting the same praise they are getting this week!!!
Not taking up for knapp but the fact that u know u probably won’t get off a punt I’m sure that handicaps the gameplan or change it
Cuz I sure that was even thought about during the week of preparation!!!
But it’s a week to week league and the ship has not sunk just hit a ruff current
Feel free to leave yall opinions,cus i know everyone has one!
OneNation
Unda God
September 11th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
I think the real issue is that not enough attention has been paid to ST issues (before condo bc) and having some folks that can catch the ball. Seems SD double teamed anyone who could catch an obv passing plays which most likely led to McFadden catches. I think the Offense will improve. Special teams? I don’t know. Sign Rock. Teach Pryor to long snap.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
We had more total yards, more rushing yards, more passing yards, fewer penalties, T.O.P. even..
But..yea… continue to over-react.
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Anyone watching that game knows it wasn’t even close. Our defense saved our @ss from being very embarrassed, Offense looked like a Knapp ran Offense, which is/has ben crap for years now.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
all Reggie had to do was hire a new DC and roll from there if that had been the case we SMASH sd and Mia too but now the offense is a great unknown and us fans are pissed about it because we had a dominant O in the making last year with a crap D now the D is holding up and it appears the O has taken a giant step back which means another wasted year for us and out of our star player (Dmac) career.
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Hue was not the right man for the job.
He wanted more power, not less. McKenzie needed a coach who was no-nonsense, straight-forward, where players know where they stand with the coach. He needed a coach who, first and foremost, would stress discipline and a business-like approach to the game. That wasn’t Hue’s MO.
Hue’s style probably fits with a few teams. But this was a team that needed a wholesale cultural shift, and Hue wasn’t going to provide that.
Now, would I have liked to see Saunders hired as the OC instead of Knapp? Definitely. I thought that would be best-case scenario for the offense. But Allen wanted Knapp, and a real GM lets his head coach choose his staff. Some players fit the WCO better than they did Hue’s offense. Others were a better fit for an Air Coryell-influenced offense.
Truthfully, there isn’t enough talent on the roster to suggest that turning the franchise around wasn’t going to be a 2-3 year project regardless. Even if Hue stayed, with the position the Raiders were in (especially from a financial standpoint) they weren’t going to be Superbowl contenders this season anyway. I still see an 8-8 team with a lot of maturing to do.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
T.O. fosho.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
All FA long snappers call Alameda.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
RaidersOne Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
Why do you think they foisted DA on us?
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Foisted? What color is the sun in your world?
September 11th, 2012 at 3:28 pm
I would rather have Cable then Hue
September 11th, 2012 at 3:29 pm
The Raiders could, but won’t, fire Knapp, out a sense of pride. Top brass could never admit they were wrong. I said before when Raiders played the Lions in pre-season Knapp was going to get DMAC hurt. And although I am no DMAC worshiper, and don’t see him as our salvation, he is an excellent back.
When Knapp scrunched up the lineman up on the goal line and tried to punch DMAC through, and when DMAC couldn’t penetrate the Lions defense, and Knapp was just standing there looking at his playbook, I knew he was a loser.
How about adding WR’s and spreading the Lions out dummy???? duhhhh?????
September 11th, 2012 at 3:29 pm
Purv
I just don’t freak out in here because I take the time to be honest about the team, not talk playoffs every year when we’re paper-thin at LB, RB, CB, and OL.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:30 pm
Later DAV
September 11th, 2012 at 3:30 pm
#130 Ok.so who cares about wins or losses then.Just so the “coach is a good fit”.See, this is why you get made fun of on a consistant basis.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
I didn’t like the flow or rhythm of the offense… not necessarily the plays themselves, but how they were executed.
They were in the huddle and then all this shifting, motion, changing around at the line for a 3 yard dump off.
Then it seemed like it took them an hour to snap the next play. Huddle up again for a while, WALK to the line of scrimmage. Motion, motion some more, move around in the backfield, empty the backfield, then throw another 3 yard dump off.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
Interesting timing.
If Mr. Davis lived one year longer, we get Hue O with new/decent D and playoffs.
If Mr. Davis died one year sooner, Mark Davis goes all-in for Harbaugh.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
Huejax took us to 8-8 with chuck bres and no dmac and cp3 off the couch but most don’t want to take that into account they just say “what about the penalties and and his inability to adjust after halftime”. Raiders have always won despite penalties it was proven in the Gruden era as well plus Hue was a rookie coach who entitled to make some mistakes but anyway on to MIA hope knapp can somehow step his game up a bit.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
Before you guys go too crazy, you have to check a bit of reality here: lst off the defense which has been a question mark for years played well. Very well. So, WAA HAPPENED?
Well, lst off we were driving on our lst drive, we were in rhythmn, SD was on it’s heels, we get an excellent completion to Streator who tries to fight with five Chargers and ends of losing the rock. Our next drive we are driving again, and Jones loses the rock on an end around, tries to run backwards and loses another ten yards. 2nd and 30.
Throw in three, not one, not two but THREE botched punts, and there is your game. But the Raiders did not play incredibly poorly.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
Plunketthead Says:
Well this year we shut them down and kicked butt. They are already scared thinking about the rematch in Raider home #2
A tweak here and a tweak there, get Moore healthy and the sky is the limit.
10-6 easily./////////////There you go.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:33 pm
September 11th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
Purvisman Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
Giants lost by 7 and Green Bay lost by 8. Wonder if their fans want to blow up those teams, players, and coaches?
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Those teams and those fans haven’t been miserable over the last 10 – 11 years, have they?
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Well, the manner of the loss, not the score… Opening kick off “Clank”….Promising drive ends “POW” fumble…Reverse “Boink, Boink, clank, scramble”…The punts “Lechler falling down all over the place”
THAT STUFF…..
September 11th, 2012 at 3:33 pm
alex7 Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 3:29 pm
Purv
I just don’t freak out in here because I take the time to be honest about the team, not talk playoffs every year when we’re paper-thin at LB, RB, CB, and OL.
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Every team is paper thin dude.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:34 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
RaidersOne Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
Why do you think they foisted DA on us?
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Foisted? What color is the sun in your world?
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You can call it what you want Ace, but between you and me, which team got the best HC ? Which team lost coaches who knew little about football at the NFL level and now retains competent winning coaches.
Which team has a head coach who seems to know little if anything, about anything?
Seems the Raiders ended up with the bottom feeders (again). In my book that is called “foisted.”
September 11th, 2012 at 3:35 pm
qodrn1 Says: All FA long snappers call Alameda.//////Rare commodity. Someone tell Bo.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
Funny how Bo hasn’t checked in with us today.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:37 pm
Imagine life without a pro-bowl LONG SNAPPER ! You just lived it yesterday!
September 11th, 2012 at 3:38 pm
Ppl callin for the deep passes but after last year SD wasn’t gonna give up nothing deep…note how soft the covarge was…
That’s why we seen so many check down!!!
September 11th, 2012 at 3:38 pm
Funny how Bo hasn’t checked in with us today.
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Because he feels like doo doo baby ! CCCCCCondo
September 11th, 2012 at 3:38 pm
no seymour,
the 49ers are definitely not paper thin at RB or LB.
The Bears are definitely not paper-thin at WR or RB.
The Texans and Ravens are deep at RB and LB.
The Chargers are deep at WR and DE.
We only have depth at DT. That’s it.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:38 pm
All the rose colored glasses wearers keep saying a lil tweak here, and a lil tweak there, n’ we’ll be 10 and 6.
The glaring weaknesses that appeared in preseason are now unhappily ensconced in the season. Nothing will change.
Woulda, coulda, shoulda, etc.: those are big if’s.
I personally feel outrage at having my time wasted by clowns. I also personally think the right committee of semi-pros from this blog could have administrated and fielded a better product than the Raiders’ brass.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:39 pm
OK all you Hue is an offensive genius lovers do you remember our opener last year? Campbell only had 105 yards in passing. McFad and Bush teamed up for 180 yards rushing and this was a against a Denver Defense that did not get better until later in the season.
Yes Yes I know we won then and lost in 2012 but the difference was we only lost one fumble and Denver had 2 fumbles lost and an interception. Having Jano kick a 63 yard FG at half ended up being the difference. As was the pattern last year, we only scored 7 points in the 2nd half and were out scored 17-7. We were lucky to hold on.
One scary note: we were good against the run on opening night however I think our run defense looked better last night while last year it might of been more of a scheme thing with Denver.
In terms of yards we were more productive against SD and this is with our #1 and #3 Recievers injured and without a true starting TE and missing a reliable BU running back that Denver had to prepare for.
Bottom line I wanted Saunders we got Knapp. I can live with Knapp for now and can reserve judgement. Knapp is not the reason we lost last night.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:40 pm
Wasbanned Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
I didn’t like the flow or rhythm of the offense… not necessarily the plays themselves, but how they were executed.
They were in the huddle and then all this shifting, motion, changing around at the line for a 3 yard dump off.
Then it seemed like it took them an hour to snap the next play. Huddle up again for a while, WALK to the line of scrimmage. Motion, motion some more, move around in the backfield, empty the backfield, then throw another 3 yard dump off.
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Exactly
September 11th, 2012 at 3:40 pm
I will be passing on some long snap secrets to Travis for next week . Hopefully he can adjust to being a starter , its tough !
September 11th, 2012 at 3:40 pm
Hue’s style probably fits with a few teams.
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Hue’s style was exactly what we needed Hue had confidece and a swagger something we haven’t had since gruden. DA wants ball control and Def (play not to lose) that’s what we don’t need Hue played to win and that IS the RAIDER WAY.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:40 pm
Raiders 8 carries for negative 3 yards in 2nd half. Just 2nd time ever negative yards rushing in 2nd half (-4 vs SD in 98)
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They are going to have make adjustments to this ZBS, for some reason DMC can’t get going in this scheme.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
Im still not recovered from this game. What a debacle.
My take on all the hotbed issues…
Knapp: game plan was solid, execution was mixed. But he’s gotta know when to turn up the wick. We may have only been by a TD for most of the game, but we were down a lot on momentum. Too many wasted plays when we should have been more aggressive. Not necessarily going deep, but just passing more.
CP3: looked great to me. Arm strength was solid.
Reece: holding out so long has resulted in what I feared, another year where we dont utilize this guys talents.
WR Core: Bring in Chad or Plax. We need someone that can draw some attention. Someone with some “spark”. I like Sessions and the rest of our guys, but they have no charisma. We need it right now. Badly. TO maybe?
Khalif Barnes: Khalif Barnes… enuff said.
Defense: Our LB’s were studs. Kelly killed us with his dumbass penalties.
This is a game we let get away. As usual. New regime, same story. Dumb penalties. Missed opportunities. Wasted talent. So much wasted talent. But as usual, the same old story which is “if only 2-3 plays had gone the other way, we dominate”. Im sick of living on that razor edge. This team needs to grow the F up already.
Im as mad at this team as Ive ever been right now. Just un-inspiring. Run DMC is so f’n good and tries so hard and the rest of the team dont put in the same effort. You can see who WANTS it and who dont. Our LB’s WANTED IT. Some other guys clearly didnt.
If Hue was here, we would be 1-0 right now. Im not saying Im jumping off the bandwagon or that I wish Hue was still here. Im just stating the obvious, we win that game easily with Hue at HC and Tarver at DC.
Just totally uninspired effort.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
RaidersOne Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 3:38 pm
All the rose colored glasses wearers keep saying a lil tweak here, and a lil tweak there, n’ we’ll be 10 and 6.
The glaring weaknesses that appeared in preseason are now unhappily ensconced in the season. Nothing will change.
Woulda, coulda, shoulda, etc.: those are big if’s.
I personally feel outrage at having my time wasted by clowns. I also personally think the right committee of semi-pros from this blog could have administrated and fielded a better product than the Raiders’ brass.
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Endorsed man, I also believe Semis>Knapp
September 11th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
JON CONDO FOR MVP!
September 11th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
alex7 Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 3:38 pm
no seymour,
the 49ers are definitely not paper thin at RB or LB.
The Bears are definitely not paper-thin at WR or RB.
The Texans and Ravens are deep at RB and LB.
The Chargers are deep at WR and DE.
We only have depth at DT. That’s it.
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But those teams are thin at other positions. That’s the nature of the new NFL.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
Instead of me responding to RaiderOne, how about if he just shuts the fvck up and goes back to his teams blog?
September 11th, 2012 at 3:42 pm
Al Saunders
65 years old.
Enjoys being a part-time NFL coach.
Would not enjoy the burden and toll of a full-time position.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:42 pm
RaidersOne Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
alex7 Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
so… you guys drink the kool-aid, convince yourselves that we’re better than we really are…
then get angry when reality hits?
Kinda silly.
Like I said, we’ll be in the Matt Barkley running this year close to 6-10.
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I second that motion.
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I 3rd it.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:43 pm
realtruraider Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
JON CONDO FOR MVP!
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Remember, Condo is also the snapper on Field Goals. Just imagine how insane this place would be if we had an 18 yard FG to win it and those snapping problems.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:43 pm
oakfoshow Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
Knapp didnt destroy what we had last year.Reggie and Dennis Allen did that when they said they would hire Knapp.
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Agreed. This is where the 2012 season turned for the worst. When the new guys in charge decided that our top 10 offense of the last 2 years, under Hue and Saunders wasnt what they wanted to see, and they’d rather re-build, when all that needed changing was the DEFENSIVE philosophy.
We had ZERO trouble moving the ball the last 2 years between Campbell and Palmer once they started rolling.
Yesterday’s stats say we moved the ball, but what did your eyes tell you? They told me that we had ZERO chance of putting the ball in the end zone when it counted. SD kept everything underneathe and we looked like the talentless Raiders of 3+ years ago. With these current better players.
This new offensive scheme is pathetic and its a pipe dream that it will improve with our current personel. It doesnt fit the QB, it doesnt fit the MVP calibur running back. The 2 most important players on the offense.
This was a terrible error on their part in making this change.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:43 pm
alex7 Says:
Purv
I just don’t freak out in here because I take the time to be honest about the team, not talk playoffs every year when we’re paper-thin at LB, RB, CB, and OL.
///////What does that have to do with your allegiances?
September 11th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
lol Seymour.
those teams have depth at MULTIPLE important positions. Exactly where are the 49ers, Ravens, Patriots, and Texans thin at? You can’t just make stuff up.
We have depth at DT. That’s it.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
I think with Carson’s pull as the starting QB, if he wanted Chad O he would have been here…
September 11th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
I gotta give you credit for something Raiderone..you made me laugh when you referred to another poster as ‘Ace’.
Thanks.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:45 pm
alex7 Says: If Mr. Davis died one year sooner, Mark Davis goes all-in for Harbaugh.///////////Hadn’t read that yet. case closed.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:45 pm
OK all you Hue is an offensive genius lovers do you remember our opener last year? Campbell only had 105 yards in passing. McFad and Bush teamed up for 180 yards rushing and this was a against a Denver Defense that did not get better until later in the season.
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DMC beasted out that game, I can only hope we see a game like that from him with Knapp and his ZBS is here. I won’t hold my breath though
September 11th, 2012 at 3:47 pm
well Purv, this might be over your head…
but it’s silly to question someone’s allegiance when they know a team inside-out, are honest about the strengths and weaknesses, remember what helped that team win in it’s recent glory years, and rationally tells fans what to expect and what is still needed.
Wannabe “thugs” wearing raider gear calling themselves fans and crying after a predictable loss…who put no effort into understanding how football and the NFL functions… those aren’t fans.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:47 pm
Alex7 Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
Interesting timing.
If Mr. Davis lived one year longer, we get Hue O with new/decent D and playoffs.
If Mr. Davis died one year sooner, Mark Davis goes all-in for Harbaugh.
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Both scenarios look better than what we got now. But just to play devils advocate….
AD lives one year longer…. we dont draft Burris. Who is a stud. Or Streater, who is legit. And we are stuck with Campbell still instead of CP3.
AD dies one year sooner….. we dont draft D17 or Wiz 2.0. We dont get CP3 probably either.
The bottom line is if we win, we arent second guessing everything right now. This team needs to wake the F up and realize the time is now. No more wasting games we should be winning. They laid a royal egg last night in front of a packed house against a weaker team.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:47 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
I think with Carson’s pull as the starting QB, if he wanted Chad O he would have been here…
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But he hadn’t experienced last night yet…
September 11th, 2012 at 3:48 pm
Hue’s style was exactly what we needed Hue had confidece and a swagger something we haven’t had since gruden. DA wants ball control and Def (play not to lose) that’s what we don’t need Hue played to win and that IS the RAIDER WAY.
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Swagger means exactly nothing without discipline. It’s like these fools who strike a pose after every tackle, even when the play resulted in a first down.
Dennis Allen wants a tough team that wears down their opponents by being smarter and more physical. Nothing wrong with that, as long as the players buy in. We know the defense has. Knapp’s side of the ball seems to be a work in progress.
The “RAIDER WAY” exists in your imagination. This franchise needs to adapt to how big boys play football in the modern NFL.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:49 pm
I tried to pass all those concussion tests but the doctor really did look like BATMAN !
September 11th, 2012 at 3:49 pm
Oh, and not playing MM34 on Gates was a major mistake and coaching blunder.
The coaches get a F all the way around. HC, DC, ST.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:49 pm
Raider Riff Says: Im still not recovered from this game. What a debacle./////////// Pronounced di-BOCK-al
September 11th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
alex7 Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
lol Seymour.
those teams have depth at MULTIPLE important positions. Exactly where are the 49ers, Ravens, Patriots, and Texans thin at? You can’t just make stuff up.
We have depth at DT. That’s it.
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Which team do you want me to break down for you?
September 11th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
Mark Davis was in a HURRY to disassociate everything on the team that was Al-ish.
Bye bye Hue, Chuck, “committment to excellence” banners, locking out media..
Mark also wanted a GM/coach that would handle the football stuff so he could stay out of the way.
Mark would have LOVED Harbaugh and gone all in on him, and we’d be a playoff team with Vic Fangio running our Ravens D.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
Look at the Whiners, possibly the deepest team in the league. Who’s their Q behind Smith? Kapearnick? He hasn’t played one NFL game. That can’t be good.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
We had more total yards, more rushing yards, more passing yards, fewer penalties, T.O.P. even..
But..yea… continue to over-react.
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I normally try to look at these kind of things to help me off a ledge when we lose games like last night.
And I stuck up for a lot of Palmer’s big games that we lost last season, like the Lions game and the final Chargers game. WHen he made lots of big plays but our defense was inept and couldnt make one single stop, so we lost.
But with the play calling last night and all the underneathe throws, that was the most empty 297 yard performance I have ever seen. And I am not blaming Carson, I am saying that my eyes told me that we COULD NOT push the ball down the field.
At least last season the offensive philosophy created multiple CHUNK plays and big time throws down the field. EVEN WHEN MOORE AND FORD MISSED 5 straight games and we had backups at WR. Remember this? Carson won 3 straight against Chargers, Bears and Vikings with injured guys!
In contrast, last night was a catch it and fall type of offense. ZERO YAC potential. Stagnant.
This is going to be a long season, because you cant realisitcal “fire” Knapp, or just appoint Saunders as OC and change back to another system. They are all in with this! They taught it all offseason to the players, the playbook, the reps in training camp. You cant pretend that didnt happen! There is no easy way out except improving at this scheme for the next 15 weeks. And I, for one, am extremely skeptical that CP3 can become the bootleg, rollout, on the run type passer that this offense requires. Hes just not that kind of QB. He is a surveyor type QB.
This is trying to force a square peg in a round hole.
This is depressing.
The offense wasnt broke. It didnt need fixing.
The defense did…
September 11th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
For everybody’s info.I was completly on board with Reggie,Palmer,and a defensive minded head coach.Until the decision to go with knapp and his scheme.Once I heard that,the bottom fell right out.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
KoolKell Says:
RaidersOne Says:
alex7 Says
so… you guys drink the kool-aid, convince yourselves that we’re better than we really are…
then get angry when reality hits?
Kinda silly.
Like I said, we’ll be in the Matt Barkley running this year close to 6-10.
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I second that motion.
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I 3rd it.
////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////KOOL KELL in alignment with 49er fans RaiderOne and Alex7. About time you came out, KK.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
Alex7 Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
Interesting timing.
If Mr. Davis lived one year longer, we get Hue O with new/decent D and playoffs.
If Mr. Davis died one year sooner, Mark Davis goes all-in for Harbaugh.
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Sorry Alex you don’t get good D if Davis lives longer no self respecting DC would work for AD at the end point. I know some did earlier in life but he got a rep as too much of a meddler especially after the Kiffin debacle and the Sapp comments about the red phone.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:54 pm
Purvisman Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
Instead of me responding to RaiderOne, how about if he just shuts the fvck up and goes back to his teams blog?
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Seems a shame that someone makes an allegation, and doesn’t state the facts to prove that allegation.
The least you could do is give your definition of “foisted”.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
Throw in three, not one, not two but THREE botched punts, and there is your game. But the Raiders did not play incredibly poorly.
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The defense did not play poorly at all.
The offense was horrific.
As for the punts being blocked – yes they cost the game, but the point is we were PUNTING.
Why were we punting ? Bcz we couldn’t convert.
And the way we failed to convert right before the first blocked punt…a two yard pass on 3rd and 3 !? Are you fcking kidding me ? Pathetic.
I don’t care how you slice it or rationalize it – scoring 6 pts isn’t going to cut it or win games.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
You know what, if Knapp keeps his job, at least let DA call the plays..geez
September 11th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
Tom Cable: were not losers anymore.
Hue: I will build the bully
Dennis Allen:
September 11th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
take your pick Seymour.
Patriots = 2 pro bowl TEs, two 1,000 WRs, 3 legit RBs, constantly solid O-line despite letting go pro-bowlers when they get expensive, multiple star LBers and secondary players…
We have ZERO star defensive backs, ZERO 1,000 yard receivers, ZERO complete TEs, one legit LB, ONE decent O-lineman…
yeah, exactly the same.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:57 pm
We are not in the Matt Barkley sweepstakes but I also think we will be hard pressed to do any better than 8-8 with our issues at TE,WR and general lack of depth as well as patch work CBs. I hope Tarver can work magic with the defense and keep us in games that CP3 can pull out with D Moore and MFad but that is more of a hope than an expectation.
Also a couple of our games last year – we were flat out lucky to be 8-8. Not as solid as the year before when we still at least had Miller and NA.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:57 pm
daraider09 Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
But with the play calling last night and all the underneathe throws, that was the most empty 297 yard performance I have ever seen. And I am not blaming Carson, I am saying that my eyes told me that we COULD NOT push the ball down the field.
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Dude our starting WR yesterday had 19, count em 19 catches last year. FOR TEMPLE!! Nothing against Streator but I don’t think he could put on an 81 jersey at the half and come back out as Tim Brown. And you can’t expect them to send him deep against Cason and Weddle time and time again.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
Anybody see Dennis allen laughing it up at the press conference. What a Fkn moron!What the fk is so funny? get this dickhead out of here.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
Alright, not trying to be too reactionary, and I still think we could win the division if we step up in the next 4 weeks, but if things snowball from here, I see a Reggie firesale coming by week 8 to get as many draft picks as he can for next week. This would also help improve our chances for a shot at the #1 pick. We do have some talent that other teams would be interested in. Here is who is see being available:
Seymour – we could get a high 3rd rounder for him
Kelly – he is a dumb ass, but he still has the talent to get us a 3rd or 4th
Huff – maybe a 5th rounder, but he’s clearly overpaid
McFadden – I know no one wants to see this, but it’s a contract year, and I would be terrified of giving him a huge, long term deal. I bet we could trade him to a team like Detroit or the Jets for a 2nd and 4th rounder. He’s clearly worth a 1st rounder, but the fact that you have to pay him next year lowers his value.
Thoughts?
September 11th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
Fire Steve Hoffman today! There is nothing special with what he has done to that unit. Bye bye. Knapp, there is a reason nobody wanted you as an OC, you’re just not a good game planner. Oh, and implement some power blocking schemes please? I have NO idea why someone would try to fix something that was not broken. Our blocking schemes worked prior to this season. (which was a mix of power and zone)
September 11th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
alex7 Says: well Purv, this might be over your head…Wannabe “thugs” wearing raider gear calling themselves fans ////////////Nope. Your allegiances aren’t going over anybody’s heads in here.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 3:40 pm
Hue’s style probably fits with a few teams.
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Hue’s style was exactly what we needed Hue had confidece and a swagger something we haven’t had since gruden. DA wants ball control and Def (play not to lose) that’s what we don’t need Hue played to win and that IS the RAIDER WAY.
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If these assessments are true, which I believe them to be, we are screwed. Playing NOT TO LOSE is a recipe for disaster in the NFL. And, it’s boring! Reminds me of a boxer who is great at jabbing but never throws the big right hand. He may win the match on points but he’ll never be known as a champion. More often than NT, he’s knocked on his ass with a big shot from the other guy. Match over.
Based on what I saw last night, we will not match well against Denver or any other team that can throw the ball. I think we’ll do well at stopping the run but our pass defense is at risk. PManning should be licking his chops thinking about playing us. He can get a quick 3 scores and then take he night off. I’m not seeing this offense as a high scoring unit. Dink & Dunk just wastes time and scores few points. And unfortunately, I don’t see us changing it anytime soon.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
Last night brought flashbacks of Gruden’s first game vs. KC…George was pummeled again and again…nothing went right.
Maybe something about the #3…
September 11th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
I said last week that Ford’s injury was more serious and yet tey refuse to call it what it is. LISFRANC stikes again. Thought that it could be cured by rest like DMAC. Wrong. Rookie mistakes by Coach Allen. Not having Goethel take real snaps is poor management.
September 11th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
Purvisman Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
KELL in alignment with 49er fans RaiderOne and Alex7. About time you came out, KK.
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Oooooooh shut up, dumbass.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:00 pm
JT Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
Tom Cable: were not losers anymore. (Yea we are now the wife beaters)
Hue: I will build the bully( Yea we will bully and set a penalty record and like a bully when confronted collapse in the 2nd half and lose games in the 4th QTR.
Dennis Allen: (Yet to be written after only one game for crien out loud)
September 11th, 2012 at 4:00 pm
alex7 Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
take your pick Seymour.
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Well, again, you are picking the probable final four teams. One thing that modern sports has taught us is players will flock to those teams for a chance at the dance. That goes without saying, (See Moss, Randy 2009-present)
September 11th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
Dennis Allen wants a tough team that wears down their opponents by being smarter and more physical.
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we don’t have a BAL S.F. type D to play that style of football and we did have a physical O LAST YEAR. Raiders have always had penalties and still won games. And what do you mean the RAIDER WAY doesn’t exist we want VERTICAL O with a power run game and a D that smacks you in the mouth. We had Half of that once again LAST YEAR with Hue. All we needed was a more modern scheme on D and we would be 1-0 now instead of talking about our offensive woes.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
My only criticism with Allen after week 1 is not having a worthwhile backup plan at LS.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
purv has some weird fetish talking about the 49ers in here…
September 11th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
JT Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
Bill Callahan: “We must be the dumbest team in America.”
Tom Cable: were not losers anymore.
Hue: I will build the bully
Dennis Allen: ?
September 11th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 3:57 pm
daraider09 Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
But with the play calling last night and all the underneathe throws, that was the most empty 297 yard performance I have ever seen. And I am not blaming Carson, I am saying that my eyes told me that we COULD NOT push the ball down the field.
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Dude our starting WR yesterday had 19, count em 19 catches last year. FOR TEMPLE!! Nothing against Streator but I don’t think he could put on an 81 jersey at the half and come back out as Tim Brown. And you can’t expect them to send him deep against Cason and Weddle time and time again.
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Did you read the whole post?
September 11th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
TxRaider210 Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
I still think Tannehill throws a couple ducks this weekend, it’s up to our guys to grab them.
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Had three passes tipped at the LOS and picked. Our lineman better have their hands up.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
I wouldnt say the offense was “horrific”. We just blew it. Every time. Streater’s fumble was exactly like DHBs in the Lions game last year. MOMENTUM KILLER.
Kelly’s offsides gave the dischargers 7 pts.
Same old crap.
Sign Plax, TO, or Chad. Now. We need a spark.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:03 pm
#196 I wanted to try to get a first for Mcfadden at this years draft and keep Bush.Better zoneblocking runner anyway.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:03 pm
…and what was with the blitz each and every 3rd down and pure man coverage…thought the days of man were gone?…3rd down was way too predictable
Did see one zone blitz with Shonasty dropping into the flat (shudder)…
September 11th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
RaidersOne Says: The least you could do is give your definition of “foisted”.////////// I wasn’t the one that foisted that word into our blog today. The least you could do is pay attention. And the most you could do to help is, LEAVE.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
to be fair, many teams don’t take the long-snapper position seriously enough, let alone the backup long-snapper position.
We just happened to the be team that got shafted by something that could have happened to any team, and has before (see: Chargers 2010 special team debacles).
September 11th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
Hue’s style was exactly what we needed Hue had confidece and a swagger something we haven’t had since gruden. DA wants ball control and Def (play not to lose) that’s what we don’t need Hue played to win and that IS the RAIDER WAY.
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Honestly Hue was a blowhard that had an AD messiah complex. If he is so awesome go buy an Andy Dalton Jersey and get the Orange and Black pinstripes. Sick of hearing about Hue. Raiders looked better under Cable and will probably be about same even though we are rebuilding this year.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
Texans are razor thin @ multiple positions including WR, OL, TE, RB.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
#208 Dennis Allen? Back to def.co. somewhere.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
I highly doubt DA liked taking the boos from the crowd last night, mostly after a crappy call by Knapp.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:05 pm
seymour
if it goes without saying, then don’t say ALL teams have similar paper-thin depth issues.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:05 pm
#216 Looked better under Cable. AHHHHHHHH HAAAAAAA
September 11th, 2012 at 4:08 pm
If Cable was still coach,he would have went home and whooped his wifes a$$ after that beatdown.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:08 pm
Raiders have always had penalties and still won games. And what do you mean the RAIDER WAY doesn’t exist we want VERTICAL O with a power run game and a D that smacks you in the mouth. We had Half of that once again LAST YEAR with Hue. All we needed was a more modern scheme on D and we would be 1-0 now instead of talking about our offensive woes.
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Always? How about the last 20 years. How have those undisciplined football teams worked out?
Funny, the last Raiders team that did anything was the only one whose offense resembled the one the Raiders are running now.
This isn’t Jack Tatum’s NFL anymore. Have to play smarter, have to be disciplined, and have to adapt. The teams that don’t are irrelevant.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:08 pm
Did you read the whole post?
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I did. And remember we have a COMPLETELY new staff here. Jackson at least knew what he had. Our guys here are learning what they have. And they don’t know until game conditions.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:08 pm
sigh Seymour Bush.
If you think having Foster, Tate, and Justin Forsett as running backs makes you razor thin at RB…
and an honorable-mention all-american as your backup TE to Owen Daniels a bad thing…
just stop already.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:08 pm
Daraider09 Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 3:57 pm
daraider09 Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
But with the play calling last night and all the underneathe throws, that was the most empty 297 yard performance I have ever seen. And I am not blaming Carson, I am saying that my eyes told me that we COULD NOT push the ball down the field.
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Dude our starting WR yesterday had 19, count em 19 catches last year. FOR TEMPLE!! Nothing against Streator but I don’t think he could put on an 81 jersey at the half and come back out as Tim Brown. And you can’t expect them to send him deep against Cason and Weddle time and time again.
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Did you read the whole post?
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There was a reason we couldnt go deep. SD was playing way off with the safeties. The middle was there for the taking all night long. Carson has to start using his TE more. Meyers gets open.
If CP3 starts forcing it deep like everyone wants, then he throws picks against that D and everyone is still flipping out. Its a no win situation.
The players HAVE TO execute. They look like a team that is still finding ways to lose. Indicative of a losing atmosphere. It’s going to take a while to wipe away the stench of ‘03-’09.
The players have to start believing. They have to start finding ways to win instead of finding ways to lose. Streaters fumble. Reece’s horrible lateral. The WR’s drops.
Losers find ways to lose even when they are supposed to win.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
Seymour Bush Says: Dude our starting WR yesterday had 19, count em 19 catches last year. FOR TEMPLE!! Nothing against Streator but I don’t think he could put on an 81 jersey at the half and come back out as Tim Brown. And you can’t expect them to send him deep against Cason and Weddle time and time again.///////////With ya, Seymour, but truth be told, DMAC had 13 receptions, more than any other receiver opening week. Interesting game plan that just didn’t work. Had it worked, everybody would be calling Knapp a genius.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
r8eray Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
JT Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
Bill Callahan: “We must be the dumbest team in America.”
Tom Cable: were not losers anymore.
Hue: I will build the bully
Dennis Allen: ?
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DA: I’ve got nice tits.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:10 pm
4 more than any other receiver.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:10 pm
99, stop that.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:11 pm
sigh Seymour Bush.
If you think having Foster, Tate, and Justin Forsett as running backs makes you razor thin at RB…
and an honorable-mention all-american as your backup TE to Owen Daniels a bad thing…
just stop already.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:11 pm
alex7 Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 3:42 pm
Al Saunders
65 years old.
Enjoys being a part-time NFL coach.
Would not enjoy the burden and toll of a full-time position.
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how the hell do you know this? are you related or his neighbor or what?
September 11th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
Raider Riff Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
I wouldnt say the offense was “horrific”. We just blew it. Every time. Streater’s fumble was exactly like DHBs in the Lions game last year. MOMENTUM KILLER.
Kelly’s offsides gave the dischargers 7 pts.
Same old crap.
Sign Plax, TO, or Chad. Now. We need a spark.
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You dont just sign someone because you’ve heard their name before.
You sign someone if he can help a team win, or improve a weakness.
TO and Chad can do neither of those this.
They are just washed up side show clowns. Their past talent is too great for them not to be on a team now. It is obvious they are done.
I am curious about Plex though. He is not as big of a clown (he had one blunder, not a career made of it) as those other two. And he serves a distinct purpose: Red Zone TD threat.
Its like when people say we are thin at RB, so sign Ryan Grant. YOU DONT SIGN A GUY BECAUSE YOU’VE HEARD HIS NAME BEFORE! Ryan Grant is talentless and injured. That is why no one is even giving him a sniff. Hes not that old, yet he’s not on an NFL roster. Curious isnt it? The answe is: he isn’t good at football. Just because he ran thru a few wide open lanes in GB over the years doesnt make him a competent back. He isnt explosive, never has been, and doesnt have a specific niche.
If we need to bring in a player or two, bring ones in who can actually serve a purpose to benefit the team.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
alex7 Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 4:08 pm
sigh Seymour Bush.
If you think having Foster, Tate, and Justin Forsett as running backs makes you razor thin at RB…
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Forsett has been waived by two teams. In the last few months. He is one tiny bump on the head away from retirement. I like Foster and Tate certainly. But two good backs in the NFL is exactly what I said. Razor thin.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:13 pm
Enter TERRELL OWENS.I can smell it.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:14 pm
Like the NFL.com article says, Why punt the ball on 4th & 2 inside Charger territory, when your long snapper is out?
September 11th, 2012 at 4:14 pm
Ive done enough Knapp bashing. He isnt going to get better, so Im just going to dead it for now. On the opposite end of the spectrum, I did want to add one thing. Jason Tarver is the best D-Co we have had in AGES. The Mad Chemist is going to be doing good things for us for a long time. The change in D is night and day from last year. Thats what a GOOD coordinator does.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:14 pm
purvisman Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
Seymour Bush Says: Dude our starting WR yesterday had 19, count em 19 catches last year. FOR TEMPLE!! Nothing against Streator but I don’t think he could put on an 81 jersey at the half and come back out as Tim Brown. And you can’t expect them to send him deep against Cason and Weddle time and time again.///////////With ya, Seymour, but truth be told, DMAC had 13 receptions, more than any other receiver opening week. Interesting game plan that just didn’t work. Had it worked, everybody would be calling Knapp a genius.
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The game plan was to put it in McFadden’s hands. Everyone saw this coming. No one else stepped up. Without a viable 2nd and 3rd threat on offense, this is not a workable plan week in and week out.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:14 pm
purvisman Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
Seymour Bush Says: Dude our starting WR yesterday had 19, count em 19 catches last year. FOR TEMPLE!! Nothing against Streator but I don’t think he could put on an 81 jersey at the half and come back out as Tim Brown. And you can’t expect them to send him deep against Cason and Weddle time and time again.
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With ya, Seymour, but truth be told, DMAC had 13 receptions, more than any other receiver opening week. Interesting game plan that just didn’t work. Had it worked, everybody would be calling Knapp a genius.
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It didn’t & he isn’t.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:14 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
My only criticism with Allen after week 1 is not having a worthwhile backup plan at LS.
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My criticism is that after the 2nd botched snap, you wake up and stop punting. It’s 4 down territory from there on out. It could not have been any worse.
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting new results… oh wait, were the Raiders.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 4:08 pm
Raiders have always had penalties and still won games. And what do you mean the RAIDER WAY doesn’t exist we want VERTICAL O with a power run game and a D that smacks you in the mouth. We had Half of that once again LAST YEAR with Hue. All we needed was a more modern scheme on D and we would be 1-0 now instead of talking about our offensive woes.
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Always? How about the last 20 years. How have those undisciplined football teams worked out?
Funny, the last Raiders team that did anything was the only one whose offense resembled the one the Raiders are running now.
This isn’t Jack Tatum’s NFL anymore. Have to play smarter, have to be disciplined, and have to adapt. The teams that don’t are irrelevant.
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This is an interesting post. AD used to be able to get better talent than others. He was smart and well connected and had his own scouting style. Before Free agency he aways ended up with freaks like Shell and Upshaw that were just like men playing against boys. Only the Steelers and a few other teams could even line up to them when clicking in the 70’s to early 80’s. After free agency and the cap and all that, his advantage went away other teams had elaborate systems and he fell behind. Only when we had Bo or under Gruden (+ after glow year) were we relevant after 1984.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
Always? How about the last 20
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I meant all the successful Raider teams YA this includes the Gruden era.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:16 pm
KoolKell Says: KELL in alignment with 49er fans RaiderOne and Alex7. About time you came out, KK.
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Oooooooh shut up, dumbass.////////////////Great comeback for a 9er.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:16 pm
Dont hear even 1% of all the STREATER,CRINOR,HAGEN fairy tail blsht I heard yesterday.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:18 pm
Criner,Hagan.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:18 pm
The entire transition of the offense was handled improperly.
The majority of our weapons on offense including the QB were drafted or acquired using the Al Davis, vertical, stretch the field, power scheme philosophy.
We do not have the player personnel to fully implement what Knapp is trying to do!
Saunders should have been made the OC with Knapp as HIS adviser, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND!!!
Then Knapp’s plan could be slowly integrated over the next season or two as we acquire the best players to implement that scheme!
This entire thing was handled completely AZZ BACKWARDS from the start!!!
As a result…J Raider has started the OFFICIAL:
“FIRE”, “DEMOTE”, “RELIEVE OF PLAYCALLING DUTIES” GREG KNAPP” PETITION!!!
Whatever language you prefer makes no difference to me!!!
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September 11th, 2012 at 4:19 pm
What difference does it make? They suck.And you were all over their sticks for days.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
jesusraiderjim Says:
alex7 Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 3:42 pm
Al Saunders
65 years old.
Enjoys being a part-time NFL coach.
Would not enjoy the burden and toll of a full-time position.
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how the hell do you know this? are you related or his neighbor or what?////////////////Alex7 has relations with many athletic types.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
Bottom line is that there were too many mistakes on otherwise perfectly executed plays to blame the loss exclusively on Knapp. Playcalling was far from perfect (and those who were expecting it to be must have a very selective memory of some of Hue’s games as a playcaller), but enough of what they did on offense worked. At some point the players have to learn to finish.
Next week, if the receivers catch most everything that comes their way and the running game is working – and the offense still stalls? Then we can start blaming Knapp. Again, I wasn’t thrilled with his hire, but that doesn’t mean I’m going to throw objectivity out the window.
Those who are calling for Dennis Allen and Reggie McKenzie’s heads after week one A) have an agenda and B) clearly don’t understand how successful football teams form good habits and a professional culture so that they can stay successful long-term.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:23 pm
After we lose to the Broncos, Steelers, Falcons, and Saints…
guys in here will start talking about Barkley vs. Tyler Wilson (ARK QB) vs D draft priorities and that might be the highlight of this rebuilding year.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
Raiders better win in MIA or we’re looking at 4-12
September 11th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
Rome wasn’t built in a day!
September 11th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
TxRaider210 Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
I highly doubt DA liked taking the boos from the crowd last night, mostly after a crappy call by Knapp.
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Agreed.
Im glad the crowd got on the team last nite. We dont have the patience for any more of the same crap. They need to put up and do so immediately. We’ve waited long enough.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
Bottom line is that there were too many mistakes on otherwise perfectly executed plays to blame the loss exclusively on Knapp. Playcalling was far from perfect (and those who were expecting it to be must have a very selective memory of some of Hue’s games as a playcaller), but enough of what they did on offense worked. At some point the players have to learn to finish.
Next week, if the receivers catch most everything that comes their way and the running game is working – and the offense still stalls? Then we can start blaming Knapp. Again, I wasn’t thrilled with his hire, but that doesn’t mean I’m going to throw objectivity out the window.
Those who are calling for Dennis Allen and Reggie McKenzie’s heads after week one A) have an agenda and B) clearly don’t understand how successful football teams form good habits and a professional culture so that they can stay successful long-term.
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FOR THE MOST PART WE AGREE YA. IMO REGGIE’S ONLY MISTAKE WAS FIRING HUE. BUT I WILL RESERVE JUDGEMENT ON KNAPPTIME AND THE O UNTIL AT LEAST WEEK 4.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
YoungAmerican, still talking sense.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
purv,
why does it matter HOW someone knows something, so long as he knows it?
Saunders would be a full-time OC by now if he wanted to. Of COURSE everyone knows he’s more competent for the job than former Texans’ QB coach Greg Knapp.
But he is obviously fine helping Hue last year and Knapp this year. He’s a California guy and is happy with his set-up.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
if this is a rebuilding year why not make some trades and get some draft picks.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
r8eray Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
JT Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
Bill Callahan: “We must be the dumbest team in America.”
Tom Cable: were not losers anymore.
Hue: I will build the bully
Dennis Allen: ?
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This is why Allen will succeed. He doesn’t say stupid sh*t.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
DA starts calling the plays, leads the Nation to 10-6 and the division, roll with Knapp maybe 6-10.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
To some people here, to be a true blur Raider fan, you have to like losing and excuses.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
Alex7 Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 4:23 pm
After we lose to the Broncos, Steelers, Falcons, and Saints…
guys in here will start talking about Barkley vs. Tyler Wilson (ARK QB) vs D draft priorities and that might be the highlight of this rebuilding year.
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Fight On!
Heisman For Barkley.
National Championship for The Mighty Trojans.
Oh, and Kiff is a better playcaller than Knapp. By far.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:28 pm
Rumor has it that Ford was in Cincinnati getting a pedicure with Hue last night.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
KrappyRat, the true blue Raider Troll
No one likes being a loser more!
Just keeping it real
September 11th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
YA and Dennis Allen’s visor are definitely some of the similarly rational non-kool-aid drinkers in here.
We’ve been for years balancing this blog out from the sugar-ladened hormonal pre-teens who predict playoffs every year.
We’re not popular.
But we’re right
September 11th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
Again – best part of having a real organizational structure is that there is accountability on the part of EVERYONE – GM, head coach, coordinators, position coaches. If Allen thinks Knapp’s playcalling or Hoffman’s unit were reasons the Raiders lost last night, they’re sure as s*** going to hear about it.
Again – this is a team with little depth, a LOT of youth, and much to learn about playing with discipline. Expect them to make mistakes – but also expect the coaches to take the necessary steps to correct those mistakes.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
Every year a whole group of posters make outlandish predictions prior to the first game, including kicking teams butts, winning the division, going deep in playoffs.
Then by half time of the first game, they switch their tune.
Some of you aren’t that bright, are you?
September 11th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
I’m out for now Nation.
PUT YOUR PANTS 2012!!!!!!11
September 11th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
Raider Riff Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
TxRaider210 Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
I highly doubt DA liked taking the boos from the crowd last night, mostly after a crappy call by Knapp.
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Agreed.
Im glad the crowd got on the team last nite. We dont have the patience for any more of the same crap. They need to put up and do so immediately. We’ve waited long enough.
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Yep, very bad look for DA, after his and Tarver’s D played well. They’d better change the look with Pitt at home, make a statement!
September 11th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
lol Manass
you mean like Murphy for a draft pick?
It’s not like teams are dying to trade draft picks for veterans, you know?
Mostly Davis did that (Seymour, Campbell, D. Hall)
September 11th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
To some people here, to be a true blur Raider fan, you have to like losing and excuses.
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And wat, to you, is a true blue Raider fan?
September 11th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
Dennis Allen will do well, maybe not this year though. losing the long snapper ruined his debut,no doubt. well get ready for Chad Johnson cuz he might be suiting up for sunday!!!
September 11th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
eastoaklandraider Says: FOR THE MOST PART WE AGREE YA. IMO REGGIE’S ONLY MISTAKE WAS FIRING HUE. BUT I WILL RESERVE JUDGEMENT ON KNAPPTIME AND THE O UNTIL AT LEAST WEEK 4////No,no,no. I’d take Hue back as OC in a heartbeat(not really, after whats gone down) and that’s all he ever should have been here. Him and pimp slap were actually a good combo but you know where Hue’s ego is going to take him. To the top or bust. Kinda admire that, just glad it’s not here.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
To some people here, to be a true blur Raider fan, you have to like losing and excuses.
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A lot of younger gen fans, myself included, that have actually only been alive long enough to know the Raiders as a losing culture. Could just be part of the mental conditioning at this point. There is probably some very sad psychology study in the waiting regarding Raiders fans born in 1980 or later, and a link to depression or other emotional disorders.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:33 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
I’m out for now Nation.
PUT YOUR PANTS 2012!!!!!!11
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Bad enough we’re laughed at for our play.
You can be colorful when you win. When you make dopey comments like the above, when you lose, badly?
September 11th, 2012 at 4:33 pm
Allen, being a defensive coach, certainly knows how repeated mistakes on offense and special teams puts a defense in a tough spot.
LOVE the way that the Raider defense responded.
Need more consistency from the guys who are supposed to be “playmakers” on offense.
Special teams looked BAD outside of Lechler and Jano. Needs to be addressed quickly.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
alex7 Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
lol Manass
you mean like Murphy for a draft pick?
It’s not like teams are dying to trade draft picks for veterans, you know?
Mostly Davis did that (Seymour, Campbell, D. Hall)
>well if we have to run this highly explosive horizontal WCO then maybe we could trade some of our :”burner” like MOORE and FORD and Maybe Mcfadden. those 3 players could net us a 2nd and 3rd.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
Piranha Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
Every year a whole group of posters make outlandish predictions prior to the first game, including kicking teams butts, winning the division, going deep in playoffs.
Then by half time of the first game, they switch their tune.
Some of you aren’t that bright, are you?
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LOL. Guys calling for blowout saying winning close game isn’t good enough. Five minutes into game guys saying season is over.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
Defense actually held up for the first time in 10 years.Allen has had an impact there.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
Before we all go too crazy just remember that none of these coaches have played with ANY of these players before. If the Raiders went three and out, three and out, three and out, three and out, three and out, maybe we could have this discussion but the offense for the most part moved the rock. Idiotic mistakes killed them.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
I’d take Hue back as OC in a heartbeat(not really, after whats gone down) and that’s all he ever should have been here. Him and pimp slap were actually a good combo but you know where Hue’s ego is going to take him. To the top or bust. Kinda admire that, just glad it’s not here.
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Straight up.
Didn’t mind Hue as a head coach for Al Davis’ Raiders. He was the best case scenario in that situation.
But Al is gone – the organization itself (if not the team) is building from the ground up. Needed more stability and more of a business-like approach than what Hue provided.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
John David Booty Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
To some people here, to be a true blur Raider fan, you have to like losing and excuses.
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A lot of younger gen fans, myself included, that have actually only been alive long enough to know the Raiders as a losing culture. Could just be part of the mental conditioning at this point. There is probably some very sad psychology study in the waiting regarding Raiders fans born in 1980 or later, and a link to depression or other emotional disorders.
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If you were at the game yesterday, I would completely concur. Seems like Raider fan was ready to turn on Palmer badly in the 2nd half.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:38 pm
If the Raiders went three and out, three and out, three and out, three and out, three and out, maybe we could have this discussion but the offense for the most part moved the rock. Idiotic mistakes killed them.
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Agreed.
And before someone brings up red zone efficiency, the Raiders weren’t in it very much at all because of poor execution on the part of several players.
They were in the red zone twice if I’m not mistaken – scored both times, and one was a TD.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:38 pm
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
Rome wasn’t built in a day!
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We are already passed that stage. That occurred back in the 70’s. We are best compared to current Rome. Rundown, bereft of needed talent & near bankrupt. We are in need of a human sacrifice at he games. Lets start with the ST coordinator.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:38 pm
Well gotta say I went into the game trying to be realistic in my expectations. After all we are essentially starting from scratch for the first time in a long time. That being said, I was crushed by the loss to the damn chargers. It sucks to lose to your rival on Monday night in your home.
But sadly this is reality right now. We will continue to get better and we’ll get there eventually but until then its gonna be a bumpy ride
GO RAIDERS
September 11th, 2012 at 4:40 pm
Step 1. Take a small amount of gasoline and apply to hair. (now for you youngsters, follow this part to the letter. Don’t want anyone getting hurt now do we?)
Step 2. Log on to Ibabuzz Raider Blog
Step 3. Light hair on fire
Step 4. Run around yelling how miserable you are and that the Raiders(your supposed preferred team) is ruining your life and that all coaches should be fired and all players cut.
Step 5. Rinse and repeat each week.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:40 pm
A lot of younger gen fans, myself included, that have actually only been alive long enough to know the Raiders as a losing culture. Could just be part of the mental conditioning at this point. There is probably some very sad psychology study in the waiting regarding Raiders fans born in 1980 or later, and a link to depression or other emotional disorders.
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Klas born in 1974. He remembers Raider in Super Bowls when little tike. Dad was fan and had swinging parties. When Klas get old enough to be fan team starts to suck it. Sometimes Klas blames self for all pain and suffering Raider Nation has to deal with. I know deep in my Nordic heart that Raiders will win the big one again someday. Just hoping Klas alive to see it.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
The game wasn’t even really sealed until the second punt block – and not even because of the score thanks to the defense. Simply because of the amount of time that was left after the Chargers kept getting the ball in Raider territory. Allowed them to use far too much of the clock in the 2nd half.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
It’s not like the Raiders got blown out, if not for some highlight blooper moments I think they could have made a game out of it. But I absolutely do not agree with Knapp that DMAC is a one man team, that sht’s gotta stop.
Now I have a question.
Someone earlier was talking about CP was calling his own plays on the TD drive and ignored Knapps play calling? I didn’t catch that.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
As A raider fan I dont even know when the rebuild started, if this a rebuild or if this is the “rebuilt” team. it’s been a 10 year blur of pain and suffering being a fan.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:44 pm
SaintKaufman Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 4:40 pm
Step 1. Take a small amount of gasoline and apply to hair. (now for you youngsters, follow this part to the letter. Don’t want anyone getting hurt now do we?)
Step 2. Log on to Ibabuzz Raider Blog
Step 3. Light hair on fire
Step 4. Run around yelling how miserable you are and that the Raiders(your supposed preferred team) is ruining your life and that all coaches should be fired and all players cut.
Step 5. Rinse and repeat each week.
>> how about you come up with something a little more creative that your friday foreplay routine
September 11th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
We shall overcome someday!
September 11th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
If you want to look at Raider draft targets on Saturdays this year:
OLB Barkevious Mingo LSU (freak pass-rush athlete with smarts)
OLB Jarvis Jones GEORGIA (emotional all-around stud, leader)
QB Tyler Wilson ARKANSAS
FS Eric Reid LSU
CB Dee Milliner BAMA
With the NFL trading deadline pushed back to week 8, if the Raiders are 2-6 (a real possibility), look for Oakland to sniff around 3rd to 4th round draft pick fliers for Palmer or Seymour.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
manassamauler Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
As A raider fan I dont even know when the rebuild started, if this a rebuild or if this is the “rebuilt” team. it’s been a 10 year blur of pain and suffering being a fan.
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It’s not a traditional rebuild because ever since the Superbowl, it seems like every year the team was blown up and restarted from scratch – new pieces, but always with Al’s philosophies on offense and defense.
Now the new management has to take the result of that – poor depth, overpaid players, bad cap situation, lack of draft picks – and COMPLETELY change the culture of the organization. Not an easy task at all, and certainly not one that’s going to occur within one season.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
LMAO Klas, they will win it again one day for the Nation!
September 11th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
still a classic!
September 11th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
It’s not a traditional rebuild because ever since the Superbowl, it seems like every year the team was blown up and restarted from scratch – new pieces, but always with Al’s philosophies on offense and defense.
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Al never blew up teams only coaches.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
OLB Barkevious Mingo LSU (freak pass-rush athlete with smarts)
OLB Jarvis Jones GEORGIA (emotional all-around stud, leader)
QB Tyler Wilson ARKANSAS
FS Eric Reid LSU
CB Dee Milliner BAMA
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I like all those players. I would add:
OLB Chase Thomas STANFORD (plenty of experience with Tarver)
QB Geno Smith
DE Bjoern Werner
September 11th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
To some people here, to be a true blur Raider fan, you have to like losing and excuses.
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I realize that the Raiders blow. I just choose to go into every game and season with a “we will beat them this time” attitude rather
then “we blow” “CP is a loser”
“fire knap” “if only they would do what I tell them” “etc, etc”
I just choose to be positive rather then being negative.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
raiders need corners,a linebacker that rushes the QB and probably 2 dlinemen, seymour and kelly are gone after this regardless. Draft will probably be about the D. new HC is all about that.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
Defense played good, but still didn’t get pressure on Rivers enough. Last years first game we held Denver to a very low yardage running game also. Than we know what followed, Im in a wait and see mode right now in regards to everything. No more biatching from me until after the Miami game, if we look the same on offense again I think we all can agree that we will have a rough season. Im hoping for the best and I have faith that DA won’t let Knapp sink this ship, he will get in his ear and tell him this offense is better and more explosive than this and he better start playin to our players strengths or else he will get replaced once again
September 11th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 4:40 pm
A lot of younger gen fans, myself included, that have actually only been alive long enough to know the Raiders as a losing culture. Could just be part of the mental conditioning at this point. There is probably some very sad psychology study in the waiting regarding Raiders fans born in 1980 or later, and a link to depression or other emotional disorders.
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Klas born in 1974. He remembers Raider in Super Bowls when little tike. Dad was fan and had swinging parties. When Klas get old enough to be fan team starts to suck it. Sometimes Klas blames self for all pain and suffering Raider Nation has to deal with. I know deep in my Nordic heart that Raiders will win the big one again someday. Just hoping Klas alive to see it.
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Now we know Klas. It’s all your fault. You are the one to blame. You became a fan & that was the start of the Raiders downsurge. Stop it Klas. You are killing us. Go admire Inga. LOL
September 11th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
Al never blew up teams only coaches.
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That’s what I mean. But there were a few years in the last two decades where he used free agency to make a lot of moves (either by addition or subtraction) that changed the makeup of the team. The result was always the same, though.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
Raider pass protection was pretty good until Barnes got tired in second half and said f*ck it.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
285.SaintKaufman Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 4:40 pm
Step 1. Take a small amount of gasoline and apply to hair. (now for you youngsters, follow this part to the letter. Don’t want anyone getting hurt now do we?)
Step 2. Log on to Ibabuzz Raider Blog
Step 3. Light hair on fire
Step 4. Run around yelling how miserable you are and that the Raiders(your supposed preferred team) is ruining your life and that all coaches should be fired and all players cut.
Step 5. Rinse and repeat each week.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
I’ve been plenty critical of Michael Huff in the past, but he played a very solid game last night.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
Plunkett
the early 2000s sure were fun. First and only time as a Raider fan I went into games expecting to win.
Gruden, Garner, and Gannon, x’s and o’s, penalties be danged.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
realtruraider Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
Defense played good, but still didn’t get pressure on Rivers enough. Last years first game we held Denver to a very low yardage running game also. Than we know what followed, Im in a wait and see mode right now in regards to everything. No more biatching from me until after the Miami game, if we look the same on offense again I think we all can agree that we will have a rough season. Im hoping for the best and I have faith that DA won’t let Knapp sink this ship, he will get in his ear and tell him this offense is better and more explosive than this and he better start playin to our players strengths or else he will get replaced once again
> yep ZERO pass rush.and the horizontal shuffle was a failure as well. need to mix in a few long bombs
September 11th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
B Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 4:40 pm
A lot of younger gen fans, myself included, that have actually only been alive long enough to know the Raiders as a losing culture. Could just be part of the mental conditioning at this point. There is probably some very sad psychology study in the waiting regarding Raiders fans born in 1980 or later, and a link to depression or other emotional disorders.
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Klas born in 1974. He remembers Raider in Super Bowls when little tike. Dad was fan and had swinging parties. When Klas get old enough to be fan team starts to suck it. Sometimes Klas blames self for all pain and suffering Raider Nation has to deal with. I know deep in my Nordic heart that Raiders will win the big one again someday. Just hoping Klas alive to see it.
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Now we know Klas. It’s all your fault. You are the one to blame. You became a fan & that was the start of the Raiders downsurge. Stop it Klas. You are killing us. Go admire Inga. LOL
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It is so true. First playoff game Klas watched was the 1985 loss to Patriots. Became real Raider fan in 1986 when team was 8-4 and unknown Randal Cunningham beat them after Marcus Allen fumbled in OT. Raiders lost last 4 games. The slide began.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
yeah YA
I kept saying that Huff would be one of our most improved this year finally playing under a legit system / DC. Guy is athletic as heck and all-around stud at Texas.
Just need some decent corners and pass-rush in our division with the stud QBs we face.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
realtruraider Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
Defense played good, but still didn’t get pressure on Rivers enough.
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Not NEAR enough pressure. Matt Shaughnessy, looking your way here!
September 11th, 2012 at 4:54 pm
The Raiders started off the game by making Rivers uncomfortable in the pocket. But after they gave up the ball in their own territory 3 times, they started to rely on the four-man pass rush so they could drop more players into coverage and keep SD out of the end zone – which worked.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:54 pm
Some truths: Old fool Kell fetches lunch for the real realtors in Alameda. Carson Palmer was washed up three yeers ago. Old man Kell is in debt up to his dumbo ears and lives off the government on disability. Dennis Allen wouldnt have been offered a coodinator job anywhere else but was targeted by Reggie because he was lied to about him by other NFL execs. KoolKell spends hours and hours and hours on this blog and has for several years, most of the time when hes drunk, and hasnt closed on a house in years. Reggie McKenzie is an illiterate dummy who doesnt know a good linebacker from a ball boy, but Mark hired him because he was lied to about him by other owners and execs. Old man Kell is thought of as a very disturbed old man my colleagues and they all know he leads a double life as a blog superstar. The Raiders will win two games all year, the place will be empty by medseason, in early 2013 they will announce they are relocating back to LA…old man Kell takes psyche meds due to his rage and anger issues and when hes drunk and on his meds we all can tell here…by the way, when hes drunk and on this blog he believes hes a big land owner in Europe. There babies, theres some truth for you…enjoy the year, and enjoy the laughs old fool Kell brings to your lives…take care.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:54 pm
Al blew up the best Raider D in years to bring Chuck Bresnahan back. John Marshall had them playing pretty well.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
alex7 Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
yeah YA
I kept saying that Huff would be one of our most improved this year finally playing under a legit system / DC. Guy is athletic as heck and all-around stud at Texas.
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Straight up.
I look forward to seeing the Raiders D in different situations, because I expect Tarver to have him rushing the passer more. He was very good at that under John Marshall.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
The game wasn’t even really sealed until the second punt block – and not even because of the score thanks to the defense. Simply because of the amount of time that was left after the Chargers kept getting the ball in Raider territory. Allowed them to use far too much of the clock in the 2nd. I cant stand this guys bllsht.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
Interesting looking at Raiders attendance in L.A. When team was 8-4, only 53,338 came to Eagles game. Biggest attendance of season was 90,153 against Broncos. Season finale against Colts was 41,349.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 4:54 pm
Al blew up the best Raider D in years to bring Chuck Bresnahan back. John Marshall had them playing pretty well.
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Haha see my post above. Completely agreed.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
RAIDERS 24
fish 13
It could happen
September 11th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1986_Los_Angeles_Raiders_season
1986 L.A. Raiders
September 11th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
Word
September 11th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
Man, Raider fans have seen some fugly slides and messed up season-enders.
Davis benching Marcus Allen? (”committment to my ego”) = Super Bowl runs over.
Mike White Raiders? Start 8-2. Finish 8-8. Ouch.
Napoleon M’s knee destroyed in the playoffs? Super Bowl season over.
Snow job.
SB.
Campbell injury after 4-2 start.
Lions and Chargers debacle late last season.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:59 pm
#321 dont forget bed and breakfast.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:59 pm
Klas
you see 1991 game vs 49ers? Ronnie Lott and Roger Craig as Raiders? 100,000+ at Coliseum. Wow.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:59 pm
sounds like nobody was prepared….least of the coach.
September 11th, 2012 at 4:59 pm
sounds like nobody was prepared….least of all the coach.
September 11th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
Alex7 Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 4:59 pm
Klas
you see 1991 game vs 49ers? Ronnie Lott and Roger Craig as Raiders? 100,000+ at Coliseum. Wow.
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Klas remembers that game.
September 11th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
They werent prepared for sht.
September 11th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
If the Raiders don’t trade for Palmer last season…
do they finish 5-11 and draft RGIII?
September 11th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
312.AmysInCharge Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 4:54 pm
Some truths: Old fool Kell fetches lunch for the real realtors in Alameda. Carson Palmer was washed up three yeers ago. Old man Kell is in debt up to his dumbo ears and lives off the government on disability. Dennis Allen wouldnt have been offered a coodinator job anywhere else but was targeted by Reggie because he was lied to about him by other NFL execs. KoolKell spends hours and hours and hours on this blog and has for several years, most of the time when hes drunk, and hasnt closed on a house in years. Reggie McKenzie is an illiterate dummy who doesnt know a good linebacker from a ball boy, but Mark hired him because he was lied to about him by other owners and execs. Old man Kell is thought of as a very disturbed old man my colleagues and they all know he leads a double life as a blog superstar. The Raiders will win two games all year, the place will be empty by medseason, in early 2013 they will announce they are relocating back to LA…old man Kell takes psyche meds due to his rage and anger issues and when hes drunk and on his meds we all can tell here…by the way, when hes drunk and on this blog he believes hes a big land owner in Europe. There babies, theres some truth for you…enjoy the year, and enjoy the laughs old fool Kell brings to your lives…take care.
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If only Al had made it ten more years. We would be talking SB right now and KK would still be a progressive flunkie
September 11th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
1988 season opener against Chargers: 39,029
WTF! That is why L.A. sucked balls.
September 11th, 2012 at 5:02 pm
Alex7 Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
If the Raiders don’t trade for Palmer last season…
do they finish 5-11 and draft RGIII?
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5-11 wouldn’t have been high enough. You want to fly to Cincy and yell at Hue, be my guest.
September 11th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
Alex7 Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
If the Raiders don’t trade for Palmer last season…
do they finish 5-11 and draft RGIII?
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What was record when JC went down? Don’t think they win another game with Boller at QB.
September 11th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
Plunketthead Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
312.AmysInCharge Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 4:54 pm
Some truths: Old fool Kell fetches lunch for the real realtors in Alameda. Carson Palmer was washed up three yeers ago. Old man Kell is in debt up to his dumbo ears and lives off the government on disability. Dennis Allen wouldnt have been offered a coodinator job anywhere else but was targeted by Reggie because he was lied to about him by other NFL execs. KoolKell spends hours and hours and hours on this blog and has for several years, most of the time when hes drunk, and hasnt closed on a house in years. Reggie McKenzie is an illiterate dummy who doesnt know a good linebacker from a ball boy, but Mark hired him because he was lied to about him by other owners and execs. Old man Kell is thought of as a very disturbed old man my colleagues and they all know he leads a double life as a blog superstar. The Raiders will win two games all year, the place will be empty by medseason, in early 2013 they will announce they are relocating back to LA…old man Kell takes psyche meds due to his rage and anger issues and when hes drunk and on his meds we all can tell here…by the way, when hes drunk and on this blog he believes hes a big land owner in Europe. There babies, theres some truth for you…enjoy the year, and enjoy the laughs old fool Kell brings to your lives…take care.
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If only Al had made it ten more years. We would be talking SB right now and KK would still be a progressive flunkie
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You people can blame me all you want…………don’t care.
September 11th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
AmysInCharge believes that Denver knew Al would pass and Reggie would take over, so they deliberately hired DA as their coordinator to mess with us.
September 11th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
Take a look in the mirror old Kell,…its not Als fault, you need to finally accept that. But we all know you wont. Sad old fool.
September 11th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
realtruraider Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
Defense played good, but still didn’t get pressure on Rivers enough. Last years first game we held Denver to a very low yardage running game also. Than we know what followed, Im in a wait and see mode right now in regards to everything. No more biatching from me until after the Miami game, if we look the same on offense again I think we all can agree that we will have a rough season. Im hoping for the best and I have faith that DA won’t let Knapp sink this ship, he will get in his ear and tell him this offense is better and more explosive than this and he better start playin to our players strengths or else he will get replaced once again
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I don’t see that happening until after week 4 when the season is already lost at 0-4 and we are the laughingstock of the league…once again.
The Raiders will make the stunning announcement that play calling duties have been taken away from Knapp in a desperate hope that the org. doesn’t lose the entire fan base.
The Raider implosion in the wake of Al Davis’s death and the lack of fan support due to the pathetic product on the field will lead to Mark Davis to seek greener pastures away from Oakland, and another city will welcome the Raiders with open arms and the franchise will be revitalized…finally.
September 11th, 2012 at 5:06 pm
Maybe Raiders move to Sweden?
September 11th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
Sorry Duck, not even close.
September 11th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
All right time for some soccer!!
Can the USA Raiders beat the Jamacian danksters?
September 11th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
alex7 Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
If the Raiders don’t trade for Palmer last season…
do they finish 5-11 and draft RGIII?
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I thought about this. No 2nd rounder would make it tough to beat the Redskins’ offer. I would have matched their 3 1st round picks, though. HUGE risk, but in my opinion totally worth it.
September 11th, 2012 at 5:08 pm
we were 4-2 when JC went down.
With Boller, if we honestly didn’t win another game (lol) 4-12 puts us at 5th overall pick, ahead of the Redskins (7th) who ended up trading up.
5-11 puts us right with the Redskins.
I supported the trade. Not often the Raiders have a legit shot at making the playoffs, and honestly mid 1st and mid 2nd isn’t THAT much for a starting NFL QB.
September 11th, 2012 at 5:08 pm
AmysInCharge Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
Take a look in the mirror old Kell,…its not Als fault, you need to finally accept that. But we all know you wont. Sad old fool.
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.???? Your personal problem are your problem.
September 11th, 2012 at 5:08 pm
AmysInCharge Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
Sorry Duck, not even close.
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You’re the one who said “No other team would hire DA as a coordinator,” yet ignore that he ALREADY WAS ONE when we hired him.
September 11th, 2012 at 5:08 pm
Cool they let the homeless sing the anthem but he has a broken mic. Figures, the homeless break everything
September 11th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
Anyone want to start the Barf for Barkley campaign?
September 11th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
Old Kell,…its not Als fault you are in the shape youre in,…ok?…take some personal responsibility for yourself, stop embarrassing yourself,..have some dignity old man.
September 11th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
Bartell broken left shoulder blade, out several weeks…95.7, says its on Williamson’s Blog.
September 11th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
Broncos (Tebow), Cardinals (Kolb), Bears (Cutler), Chiefs (Cassel), Dolphins (Tannehill) all gave up more or similar for QBs.
September 11th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
2 2nd rounders was the highest I would have gone for Palmer.
A 6th for Kyle Orton would be the backup plan, but then the Raiders would have had to find a solution at QB in 2011.
September 11th, 2012 at 5:11 pm
CB Ronald Bartell out for several weeks
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/id/48271/raiders-lose-cb-ronald-bartell-for-several-weeks
September 11th, 2012 at 5:11 pm
NFL wants to expand to Europe.
Mark isn’t happy with Oakland stadium.
Raiders to Sweden it is!
September 11th, 2012 at 5:11 pm
Pat Lee did a nice job last night. We’ll see how long he can keep that up. Joselio Hanson pickup just became huge.
September 11th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
alex7 Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
If the Raiders don’t trade for Palmer last season…
do they finish 5-11 and draft RGIII?
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I thought about this. No 2nd rounder would make it tough to beat the Redskins’ offer. I would have matched their 3 1st round picks, though. HUGE risk, but in my opinion totally worth it.
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Believe me I am a HUGE RGIII guy, but remember, no NFL DC has ANY tape on this guy. We won’t know how good he is for a few weeks if not years just yet. The same thing happened last year with Cam. His first four weeks he tore up the league. Then defenses began to catch up to him. Newton could only get 10 points against Tampon Bay in week one. That ain’t very good.
September 11th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
Wow, we are even weaker at CB and WR now after game one.
September 11th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 5:08 pm
AmysInCharge Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
Sorry Duck, not even close.
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You’re the one who said “No other team would hire DA as a coordinator,” yet ignore that he ALREADY WAS ONE when we hired him.
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Yes. That is false. Raiders have enuff issues and things to criticze them for than having to make up stuff.
DA was widely considered to be an up and comer by many teams although the widespread thought was it may be a few yrs. away yet that he would be a top HC prospect.
Let’s try to stick to stuff that really is messed up with the team and not make up things.
September 11th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
Jerry McDonald @Jerrymcd 15h
Used to have a guy who commented on Raiders blog who couldn’t believe club shelled out big bucks for Condo. He’s probably quiet tonight.
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Looking straight at you BSJ..Not as easy as it looks, is it?
I wasn’t a fan of Kraap during his first go around here. I was hoping it would be better now, with more talent to work with. So far, that has yet to be seen. Offense MUST do netter against Miami….
Special Teams is nothing but a hot steaming pile of horse manure..Might just well cost us a few more games..Over/under at 3…
September 11th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
Alex7 Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 5:11 pm
NFL wants to expand to Europe.
Mark isn’t happy with Oakland stadium.
Raiders to Sweden it is!
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Mark Davis look like Swede.
September 11th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
Its not Sweden the Raiders are moving to its LA,..thats a solid gold fact,..and besides, Old Kell owns all the land in Sweden and Kell wont sell any of it for a stadium.
September 11th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
AmysInCharge Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
Old Kell,…its not Als fault you are in the shape youre in,…ok?…take some personal responsibility for yourself, stop embarrassing yourself,..have some dignity old man.
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.????? Wtf are you talking about?
Take your problems some place else.. Not going to get into the dumbschit with you today. Maybe next week. Lol.
September 11th, 2012 at 5:15 pm
909RaiderLifer Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
Jerry McDonald @Jerrymcd 15h
Used to have a guy who commented on Raiders blog who couldn’t believe club shelled out big bucks for Condo. He’s probably quiet tonight.
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Looking straight at you BSJ..Not as easy as it looks, is it?
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That is the funny. Klas puts blame solely on BSJ. He put the bad joojoo on long snapper.
September 11th, 2012 at 5:15 pm
Btw, Al Davis is dead, and I didn’t kill him. Lol.
September 11th, 2012 at 5:15 pm
Oh come on old man, take your meds, have some ripple, we like that Kell better.
September 11th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
What I look forward to seeing next week vs Miami
1. score a TD when it counts, not garbage time.
2. Obviously playcalling, going vertical, maybe Moore being back will help with this.
3. DMC having atleast a 4 yard average when the game is over.
4. Defense playing tough against the run again
5. Defense getting pressure on the rook, don’t care how blitz or natural.
6. Special teams that looks like they have ben coached up
7. Most of all I want to see a fkin win.
September 11th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
Believe me I am a HUGE RGIII guy, but remember, no NFL DC has ANY tape on this guy. We won’t know how good he is for a few weeks if not years just yet. The same thing happened last year with Cam. His first four weeks he tore up the league. Then defenses began to catch up to him. Newton could only get 10 points against Tampon Bay in week one. That ain’t very good.
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Happens to every QB to a certain extent. Then it’s just a question as to how well that QB adjusts. Agreed, the jury is out on both Cam and RGIII (I actually wouldn’t have drafted Cam – said so in 2010), but in my opinion if you think a QB is “THE guy”, you can’t give up too much to go get him. Like I said, HUGE risk, but if you’re talking about a guy who might lead your team for the next 10+ years, you need to take that chance.
September 11th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
Al Davis never heard of you old man, thats what angers you, you spent decades angy at a man that never even knew you existed,..story of your life.
September 11th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
lol Barf for Barkley.
Reggie might trade top-10 pick if top-2 QBs are gone and load up on LB and OL.
September 11th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
Jerry McDonald @Jerrymcd 15h
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Ahahaha.
September 11th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
Looks like the Pat Lee and Joselio Hanson signings ARE huge. Lee is a good player. He played well in the Super Bowl.
September 11th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
Raiders still got time to dump Knapp and that crap scheme.
If the Broncos can change their O scheme in mid season to fit Tebow then the Raiders can change.
September 11th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
will DVD be activated from PS?
September 11th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
Jerry McDonald @Jerrymcd 15h
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Since when has Jerry been reading his own blog? I thought he had a ghost writer doing this for years.
September 11th, 2012 at 5:20 pm
alex7 Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
will DVD be activated from PS?
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You mean the squealers practice squad?
September 11th, 2012 at 5:21 pm
I thought the Raiders rushed all 11 at SD on the final play of the game.
Why would Allen say up there he wasn’t sure who touched the ball first? Can’t imagine any Raiders would even be near it.
September 11th, 2012 at 5:21 pm
Bartell out 4-6 weeks – Broken shoulder blade.
September 11th, 2012 at 5:21 pm
370.alex7 Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
will DVD be activated from PS?
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You mean Chekwa? DVD is on the Steelers…
September 11th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
Happens to every QB to a certain extent. Then it’s just a question as to how well that QB adjusts.
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Exactly. But sometimes DC’s can adjust and adjust and still never figure the Q out. (See Brady, Tom or Manning, Peyton/Eli)
September 11th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
ha, missed the dvd to steelers blockbuster.
chekwa then. OSU represent. Makes sense to give the youngsters a chance if we start 1-4.
September 11th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
Alex7 Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 5:11 pm
NFL wants to expand to Europe.
Mark isn’t happy with Oakland stadium.
Raiders to Sweden it is!
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Mark Davis look like Swede.
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Is that a Swedish meatball haircut that he has? Is that the IN-StYLE there Klas?
September 11th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
Oh and the bay area sport writers and commentators are a frickin joke.= Silence
Every damn Raider fan knows Knapp is Crap.
September 11th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 5:15 pm
Btw, Al Davis is dead, and I didn’t kill him. Lol.
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We don’t know that. You have a link?
September 11th, 2012 at 5:25 pm
Bartell, another bag of goods big dummy Reggie was sold,..the trouble with Reggie is hes just a stupid guy. No smarts. Counts on what others tell him as truth. But what hes told is baloney to screw him over and hes just not smart enough to see it. Hes flat out not GM material,…at best hes a scout, low level scout. Oh lets be real, hes like old Kell, coffee boy for executives.
September 11th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
AmysInCharge Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
Al Davis never heard of you old man, thats what angers you, you spent decades angy at a man that never even knew you existed,..story of your life.
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Fine, now maybe you could take a nap?
September 11th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
JB Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
Alex7 Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 5:11 pm
NFL wants to expand to Europe.
Mark isn’t happy with Oakland stadium.
Raiders to Sweden it is!
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Mark Davis look like Swede.
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Is that a Swedish meatball haircut that he has? Is that the IN-StYLE there Klas?
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It was 500 years ago.
September 11th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
Lol,..nap?…come on old timer, only guys like you need naps,..and viagra.
September 11th, 2012 at 5:30 pm
I think its time to update the Hitler video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8WNr86DhVM
September 11th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
#381 Your right,reggie bottom lip is a complete dumba$$.Not as dumb as some of these bloggers in here though.
September 11th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
Oakfoshow Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
#381 Your right,reggie bottom lip is a complete dumba$$.Not as dumb as some of these bloggers in here though.
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You mean like you?
September 11th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
Davidon Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 5:30 pm
I think its time to update the Hitler video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8WNr86DhVM
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Wow.
September 11th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
Well , i guess the trolls want into the convo now. Personal insults and wiener talk.
Later until the Semis come out.
September 11th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
#357: Funny as hell.
September 11th, 2012 at 5:45 pm
Pryor was one of our best offensive players in the preseason, and he is inactive.
Stupid.
September 11th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
I think in the wake of Al’s death that maybe a clean break from Oakland and a fresh start is what is needed.
Oakland deserves a winner…they have supported the team thru thick and thin, but at some point this may just need to be chalked up as a losing venture.
I’ve heard it said that Al’s first mistake was leaving Oakland…his second mistake was moving back.
If Raiders leave they get a fresh start with hopefully a new stadium and expanded fan base…and make more money. Then, Oakland tries to lure another franchise to town or gets an expansion team in, that the Bay Area can embrace and everybody’s happy.
The fans have stood by the Raiders thru all of the b.s and the Raiders continue to NOT return the favor. Oakland fans deserve better.
The team was on the right track with consecutive 8-8 seasons and were poised to make a serious run; until… Mark relies on the advice of an old former GM and a former HC to make the most critical decision he had to make in the wake of his Dad’s death; “Who will be my new GM?”Reggie then comes in and hires some no name DC who appears to be way over his head and comes in spouting the same bull poop every other coach has: ‘we’re gonna fix this and we’re gonna fix that’…whatever..but it’s gonna take a long time to clean up this mess he basically says.
Oakland Raiders don’t have alot of time to right this ship. Another 0-4 start is almost certain and a 3 win season almost assured by the looks of the product on the field. What does that translate to? MORE lost revenue, less fans at the game and a situation which almost forces Mark Davis to get the hell outta Dodge.
Maybe it’s for the best.
September 11th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
We are in rebuilding mode for at least 3 years … I say let Pryor get some snaps.
September 11th, 2012 at 5:55 pm
Pryor is one of the best runners I have ever seen.
September 11th, 2012 at 5:55 pm
Pretty depressing Raider8.
September 11th, 2012 at 5:56 pm
The most of you have truly jumped off into the deep end.
The Raiders should beat Miami and that will right the ship.
If they look bad with D. Moore out there, then we’ve got serious cause for concern. But yesterday was too many mistakes by too many guys on offense and special teams.
Defense came through…held in the red zone and were really good at filling gaps and tackling.
Raiders offense wakes up
Raiders 31
Miami 13
September 11th, 2012 at 5:58 pm
Hitler reacts to the firing of Hue Jackson
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTV7O7TVNh0
September 11th, 2012 at 5:58 pm
Pryor is one of the best runners I have ever seen
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He would better suit this offense . He can bootleg and run for it or he could sling it on the run . Carsons accuracy has been way off , maybe because of the receivers and timing… DMAC needs some kind of help out there!
September 11th, 2012 at 5:59 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 5:56 pm
The most of you have truly jumped off into the deep end.
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Good. It’s for the best. Maybe the Whiners or Cheats could use some new fans.
September 11th, 2012 at 5:59 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 5:56 pm
The most of you have truly jumped off into the deep end.
The Raiders should beat Miami and that will right the ship.
If they look bad with D. Moore out there, then we’ve got serious cause for concern. But yesterday was too many mistakes by too many guys on offense and special teams.
Defense came through…held in the red zone and were really good at filling gaps and tackling.
Raiders offense wakes up
Raiders 31
Miami 13
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I agree with most of this. I’m not sure we’re putting up 31 – not with Knapp and his lame offensive scheme. But we’re not destined to draft Barkley next year. We’re not headed for a 2-4 win season. It was a loss, and while it was a frustrating one, it was also just ONE GAME. We’re better than Miami and it will show. We’ll be okay..
September 11th, 2012 at 6:01 pm
Palmer was not the problem
September 11th, 2012 at 6:02 pm
If we can’t beat myhammy and their Rook QB then we suck B@lls …
September 11th, 2012 at 6:03 pm
Bartell and Ford out,
Who will Reggie sign?
Chekwa
Cooley
Hargrove
Psst…
Jerry McDonald referencing Bo on this blog who criticizes Condo for years,
I’m tellin ya Condo for Congress
September 11th, 2012 at 6:05 pm
new post trolls and beyotches
September 11th, 2012 at 6:06 pm
MonumentRaider Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 5:59 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 5:56 pm
The most of you have truly jumped off into the deep end.
The Raiders should beat Miami and that will right the ship.
If they look bad with D. Moore out there, then we’ve got serious cause for concern. But yesterday was too many mistakes by too many guys on offense and special teams.
Defense came through…held in the red zone and were really good at filling gaps and tackling.
Raiders offense wakes up
Raiders 31
Miami 13
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I agree with most of this. I’m not sure we’re putting up 31 – not with Knapp and his lame offensive scheme. But we’re not destined to draft Barkley next year. We’re not headed for a 2-4 win season. It was a loss, and while it was a frustrating one, it was also just ONE GAME. We’re better than Miami and it will show. We’ll be okay..-
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Yeah, “It’s just preseason”
Now, “It’s just the first game, ONE GAME” LOL
Raider fans have seen this before. Knapp needs to go before the season is wasted.
September 11th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
Raiders have been blown out by Miami last two years in a row, and with playoffs on the line.
September 11th, 2012 at 6:53 pm
i would like to sign the petition to publicly shame greg knapp…preferably by promoting Saunders to gameday playcaller.
September 11th, 2012 at 6:56 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 2:33 pm
KrappyRat worrying about Ice Cupes mic turning off
Old fool probably tried to do the Lindy Hop in the aisles to his performance
Can’t keep an old sailor down, holla
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KK was a sailor? Coast Guard perhaps?
September 11th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
John David Booty Says: A lot of younger gen fans, myself included, that have actually only been alive long enough to know the Raiders as a losing culture. Could just be part of the mental conditioning at this point. There is probably some very sad psychology study in the waiting regarding Raiders fans born in 1980 or later, and a link to depression or other emotional disorders./////Should of become a whiner fan or a fan of the patsy’s, like Kool Kell or RaiderOne or Alex7 and you’d feel so good about yourself you’d go to the
Raider blog and talk sh1t to make yourself feel even better. In other words, fvck yo
September 11th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
John David Booty Says:
Looks like you just did a quick google search without knowing much about the situation.
I actually watched Bruce play this preseason, did you?/////////////Yes. And the previous season. As did the coaches then:as did the coaches(different,this year) this year So what’s your point? Good luck, and god bless.
September 12th, 2012 at 3:17 am
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