Plenty of blame to go around in Raiders loss
By Steve Corkran
Tuesday, September 11th, 2012 at 12:10 am in Oakland Raiders.
In simplistic terms, it would be easy to blame the Raiders season-opening loss to the San Diego Chargers on an injury to long-snapper Jon Condo. In reality, there was plenty of blame to go around.
Defensive tackle Tommy Kelly jumped offsides twice on third-down plays that resulted in first downs with the 5-yard infractions. The Chargers parlayed the freebies into a touchdown-scoring drive.
Rookie wide receiver Rod Streater fumbled away the ball after gaining 8 yards on a third-and-four play from the Chargers 38-yard line. That cost the Raiders a shot at a touchdown and at least a field goal.
A delay of game cost the Raiders 5 yards on a drive at the end of the first half, with the Raiders forced to kick a field goal on a fouth-and-one play from inside the Chargers 2-yard line.
“We got to eliminate the self-inflicted wounds,” Raiders coach Dennis Allen said. “That’s the thing that has hurt us in the preseason and, obviously, it hurt us tonight. We have to find a way to get those things eliminated. Really, when you look at it, we did some good things in the game.”
Yet, those things weren’t enough to offset the bad things that surfaced, in part because of a head injury suffered by Condo early in the second quarter.
On three successive punts, Shane Lechler was unable to get off a punt in the second half.
On the first one, backup snapper Travis Goethel’s snap one-hopped Lechler, who was forced to run for his life. The Chargers parlayed that field-position swing into a field goal.
On the second one, Goethel’s snap floated back to Lechler, who had his punt blocked right off his foot. Another Chargers field goal ensued.
The capper came when Goethel three-hopped his snap to Lechler, who bobbled the ball, which the Chargers recovered in Raiders territory. Again, the Chargers turned their good fortune into another field goal.
“My hat’s off to him just for doing it,” Lechler said. “That (stuff) ain’t easy. He went out and did his best. That’s all you ask from a guy to get put in a situation like that.”
Allen said he had confidence in Goethel based on the way Goethel performed in practice.
“He’s worked on snapping the ball,” Allen said. “Actually he’s done a nice job in practice. It’s obviously a lot different when you get in a game-like situation. He was put in a tough situation and it hurt us.”
Goethel said he last long-snapped in a game back in high school. That was seven years ago or so. He said his practice time is limited to before full-team practices
When asked how many snaps Goethel gets during practice during a typical week, Lechler said: “Zero.”
Yet, there he was, the man on the spot when Condo went down.
How he got there is rather curious, too.
“(Allen) asked if I knew how to long snap, and I was the only one at camp that stood out,” Goethel said. “That’s kind of how I got put in there.”
Goethel said he is confident that he can get up to speed with more practice.
He might not get the opportunity.
“We’ll look at that tomorrow and we’ll find out what options we have available to us,” Allen said, “but we’ll make sure we have someone who can handle those duties.”
Condo’s status will be re-evaluated Tuesday, with an update provided at that time.
– Cornerback Ron Bartell allowed completions of 46 and 23 yards before he suffered shoulder and elbow injuries. He exited the game midway through the second quarter and missed the rest of the action.
Allen seemed more concerned about the shoulder. Again, an update won’t be forthcoming on Bartell’s status until Tuesday.
Veteran Pat Lee filled in for Bartell the rest of the way, and he appeared to do fine.
– Any concerns about kicker Sebastian Janikowski’s groin were allayed by his kicking a 51-yard field goal late in the first quarter. He added a 19-yarder at the end of the first half.
– Running back Darren McFadden caught 13 passes for 86 yards, one shy of former wide receiver Tim Brown’s franchise record (1997).
In all, quarterback Carson Palmer directed 18 of his 46 passes for McFadden. Overall, McFadden was the focal point on 33 of 64 offensive plays.
“We just go with the offense, however the offense is called that’s how we roll,” McFadden said. “You never know what to expect when you run into a football game, whether you’re going to get it this many times or however. We roll with the flow of the game.”
McFadden played in a regular-season game for the first time since last October, when he suffered a season-ending foot injury. By all accounts, he looked at full strength and quite capable of handling the sizable workload.
McFadden said he is confident that he can hold up for an entire season with this kind of workload.
“Oh, yeah, I don’t have a problem with it,” McFadden said. “I’m a ball player and that’s what they pay me to do, go out there and handle it like this. That’s what they pay me to do.”
– As expected, Allen said he opted against activating wide receiver Denarius Moore as a precautionary measure.
Moore returned to practice Thursday after missing a little more than a month with a hamstring injury. He showed no lingering effects from his injury, but Allen said all along that it would be a game-time decision.
“Any time you don’t have one of your better players, it’s something you have to try to work to overcome,” Allen said. “He was very close. He probably could have played in the game, but I chose not to play him because it’s a long season and we have 15 more of these games left to play. I wanted to make sure we had him healthy for the majority of the season.”
Moore’s absence necessitated Allen going with Streater as the starter opposite Darrius Heyward-Bey. It also meant significant playing time for veteran Derek Hagan, who was signed Thursday.
Streater and Hagan combined for eight receptions for 71 yards and a touchdown. Palmer targeted them 15 times combined.
Heyward-Bey caught three passes for 43 yards, but he wasn’t much of a factor. Rookie Juron Criner didn’t have any passes thrown his way.
Allen said Criner was limited more so because of the practice time he missed than the ankle injury that has hobbled him for more than a week.
– The Raiders held the Chargers rushing attack to 34 yards on 19 carries, excluding the kneel-down by quarterback Philip Rivers.
It’s worth noting that the Chargers were without lead back Ryan Mathews. Still, the Raiders played well against the run and forced the Chargers to become one-dimensional at times.
“Defensively, we played really pretty well,” Allen said. “There’s really a couple of plays. We gave up a big pass to (Robert) Meachem on a third-down situation and then we gave up a long drive there in the second quarter. ”
– Rivers completed 24 of 33 passes for 231 yards and one touchdown. He was sacked only once and didn’t have any passes intercepted.
“Their offensive line did a nice job of protecting tonight,” Allen said. “Philip did a nice job of retreating some in the pocket, buying himself some time and being able to throw the ball. He did that a couple of times when we had a chance maybe to get to him.
“Philip played well. He’s a good quarterback. We have a lot of respect for him and a lot of respect for the Chargers and the team that they are. They executed. They were better than us tonight.”
– Allen also praised the play of his own quarterback, Palmer.
With good reason, too. Palmer completed 32 of 46 passes for 297 yards and one touchdown, without any interceptions. He was sacked three times in the second half.
“Carson played well today,” Allen said. “Offensively, we were able to move the ball but we didn’t have a lot of points to show for it.”
For his part, Palmer said the Raiders hurt themselves too often.
“We stopped ourselves, especially in the first half,” Palmer said. “We had the fumble and then the drop (on the) reverse that we lost a lot of yardage on. Just kind of silly things that really slowed us down and put us in third-and-long situations. You can’t do that.”
– Linebackers Rolando McClain, Philip Wheeler and Miles Burris were all over the field for the Raiders on Monday night.
The trio combined for 22 tackles and played a key role in shutting down the Chargers running game.
Rivers said he was impressed by what he saw from the new-look Raiders defense.
“It’s certainly a different scheme,” Rivers said. “It’s more of a Denver scheme from last year. … It’s a good group. It’s a stout front seven and the guys in the secondary can really run. So, they certainly presented some challenges tonight.”
– A Raiders drive that bridged the first and second quarters came undone when fullback Marcel Reece took a hand-off from Palmer and flipped it to running back Taiwan Jones.
Reece’s flip sailed toward Jones’ head, and Jones was unable to get his hands on it before it bounced off his helmet and to the ground. By the time the play was over, Jones had lost 25 yards.
The Chargers scored their first touchdown on the ensuing drive, though they had to march 90 yards to get there. That’s the drive on which Kelly jumped offsides twice within a five-play span.
Allen said he didn’t consider benching Kelly for his gaffes. Kelly came out for a few plays, but it owed more to fatigue than anything.
“We don’t set hard line rules like that,” Allen said. “At the end of the day, we understand that we have to eliminate the penalties. We had six penalties for 35 yards in the game. Penalties weren’t what cost us the football game. It was the self-inflicted wounds of turning the ball over and giving them the ball at our end of the field.”
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September 11th, 2012 at 12:11 am
RAIDER NATION
September 11th, 2012 at 12:12 am
We will win next game.
September 11th, 2012 at 12:13 am
Bullshlt!!
September 11th, 2012 at 12:14 am
We better beat Miami or it’s going to be a long year.
September 11th, 2012 at 12:16 am
GREGORY KNAPP GTFOH!!! WE DON’T NEED YOU AND WE DON”T WANT YOU.
MOST OF THE RAIDER NATION NEVER WANTED YOU BACK IN THE FIRST PLACE, AND TODAY YOU JUST SHOWED THE ENTIRE COUNTRY THAT WE WERE RIGHT!!!
September 11th, 2012 at 12:16 am
46 passes at the los
September 11th, 2012 at 12:16 am
I can’t even read that BS right now, I will check back next week after a Raider win
September 11th, 2012 at 12:17 am
Zbs sucks ahole
September 11th, 2012 at 12:18 am
We never beat mia.. we never win back east.. ill be sick for months.. no playoffs again.
September 11th, 2012 at 12:18 am
cut the blocked punts out and maybe throw a pass more than 4 years once in a while.
September 11th, 2012 at 12:18 am
Blame goes to knapp,at least shell and Walsh were out of football for 15 years what is his excuse.
September 11th, 2012 at 12:21 am
No passrushers!!!!!!!!! Hello! This is the nfl… wtf.. no secondary either.. a zbs that e dont fit? FUÇK!!!!!!!!
September 11th, 2012 at 12:21 am
Our second best offensive player was inactive….Pryor.
Incredibly stupid move, Dennis.
September 11th, 2012 at 12:22 am
Someone has to explain to Knapp that although McFadden is the best player on offense, he isn’t the only one. Why not get Reece more involved? DHB on some slants if they are bracketing him? Looked like Myers was open quite a bit. Carson has the arm, you can look to go downfield on a play action since they were keying on DMAC.
September 11th, 2012 at 12:22 am
mcfadden20. Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 12:15 am
realtruraider Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 12:13 am
Fk PUT YOUR PANTS, I don’t want to hear or read thjat schit again after tonight
put me on that petition too
***** Mcfadden
September 11th, 2012 at 12:22 am
That truly sucked. It was a beautiful night in Oakland. With so many beautiful people having a great time at the Coliseum. And, the whole thing was just ruined by the garbage that we were subjected to on the field of play. AGAIN! I’ve gone through so many of these MNF home openers, just to walk out with the same feeling of utter letdown. I’m almost numb to it at this point. I knew it the minute Ice Cube’s mic went out, we were in for a long night.
September 11th, 2012 at 12:22 am
Palmer did a good job considering what he had to work with.
Hue was a better OC than Knapp is.
September 11th, 2012 at 12:22 am
Im feeling soo suicidey tonite
September 11th, 2012 at 12:23 am
Seriously tired of all those plays designed for yards after the catch. Get the ball to receivers down the field!
September 11th, 2012 at 12:23 am
One bright note…..I think we found a tight end.
September 11th, 2012 at 12:24 am
Put your pants is stupid!
September 11th, 2012 at 12:24 am
I repeat….Pryor is our second best offensive player.
Why was he inactive???
September 11th, 2012 at 12:24 am
Our te had what? 1 catch?
September 11th, 2012 at 12:25 am
Have to say that aside from Kelly’s stupid penalties, the D really showed up tonight. They were in bad field position all night and held them to FG’s. Rivers is a good QB so that was impressive. But the offense was supposed to be the bedrock of this team and thanks to Knapp they can’t turn it lose. No wonder Cable took play calling duties from him.
September 11th, 2012 at 12:25 am
If it is third and five, the receiver should run at least to the first down marker on his route.
– John Madden
September 11th, 2012 at 12:26 am
Put your pants is a stupid fuçking jinx!
September 11th, 2012 at 12:26 am
You guys know what’s going to happen this sunday right? Knapp is going to throw it deep every other play, he will not use McFadden, and Palmer will throw 3 Ints.
Laughable… but a real possibility. Then back to the dink and dunk the following week.
September 11th, 2012 at 12:27 am
Kirk Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 12:25 am
If it is third and five, the receiver should run at least to the first down marker on his route.
– John Madden
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Yeah that was ridiculous, as a player you have to know what depth you need to get to for the first down.
September 11th, 2012 at 12:27 am
18-do it.
September 11th, 2012 at 12:27 am
Im gonna go beat my kids!
September 11th, 2012 at 12:29 am
Getting Moore back will help, because they will have to choose to double him or DHB. Then maybe Knapp will try to go downfield to the guy with single coverage.
September 11th, 2012 at 12:30 am
Love my Raiders. But we are no playoff team. As predicted..
September 11th, 2012 at 12:30 am
He probably could have played in the game, but I chose not to play him because it’s a long season and we have 15 more of these games left to play. I wanted to make sure we had him healthy for the majority of the season.”
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Some of you guys where saying DMO should have played.
Week there you have it. The ORG makes the decision’s.
September 11th, 2012 at 12:31 am
Paging Tom Cable, can you give knapp’s jaw a hanson adjustment for us? Thanks.
September 11th, 2012 at 12:31 am
Marks Hair Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 12:27 am
Im gonna go beat my kids!
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Chill out. go have a cream soda. 15 games left.
September 11th, 2012 at 12:31 am
I still can’t believe they did not play Pryor.
He is the best runner I have seen here since Bo Jackson.
September 11th, 2012 at 12:31 am
Too many holes.. put your pants away
September 11th, 2012 at 12:31 am
its only week 2 but we all know this team can’t start 0-2, especially if they lose to the lowly dolphins with a rookie QB. holy fuk man THAT would be a new low point.Dolphins have been the consensus worst team in the AFC in opinion, better not lose that game.
September 11th, 2012 at 12:33 am
Tp will get some time this yr.. we could start 0-4
September 11th, 2012 at 12:33 am
Stringer Bell Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 12:29 am
Getting Moore back will help, because they will have to choose to double him or DHB. Then maybe Knapp will try to go downfield to the guy with single coverage.
> Yeah and how long until Moore goes down with another injury. INJURY PRONE
September 11th, 2012 at 12:33 am
I would force every team to spend time game planing for TP.
September 11th, 2012 at 12:33 am
I didn’t like the body language on offense either. It’s like the players didn’t believe in the play calling either.
September 11th, 2012 at 12:34 am
Marks hair Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 12:33 am
Tp will get some time this yr.. we could start 0-4
>> if we start 0-4 we’ll be seeing Pryor sooner rather than later.
September 11th, 2012 at 12:34 am
TP is an incredible talent.
Wake up, Dennis!!!
September 11th, 2012 at 12:34 am
Marks Hair Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 12:33 am
Tp will get some time this yr.. we could start 0-4
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I will bet you that we beat the brakes off mimi.
September 11th, 2012 at 12:34 am
34. Yup.. kill the zbs or get a smack in the mouth!
September 11th, 2012 at 12:35 am
Stringer Bell Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 12:33 am
I didn’t like the body language on offense either. It’s like the players didn’t believe in the play calling either.
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At the end of the game DMAC gave Palmer a w t f look.
September 11th, 2012 at 12:35 am
Stringer Bell. last time I am going to ask you. Are you still trying to have slim hit clay davis?
September 11th, 2012 at 12:35 am
Thec Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 12:34 am
Marks Hair Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 12:33 am
Tp will get some time this yr.. we could start 0-4
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I will bet you that we beat the brakes off mim
>> what have you seen in this offense to make you think that?
September 11th, 2012 at 12:35 am
They should put TP in to mix it up. I think DA is scared of QB controversy.
September 11th, 2012 at 12:35 am
say what you want about this meatless travesty, the chargers still, as always, suck wind that is released from the anus.
they think they something special because they beat the raiders tonight, but they still emit foul and repulsive body odor.
knowing condo was hurt, moore didnt play, and kelly had a couple of drive extending penalties, in my mind, take away those things and we win that game.
we can beat the dolphins if we can just score more points than they do.
September 11th, 2012 at 12:36 am
I dont bet against my team..
September 11th, 2012 at 12:36 am
I really don’t like Knapp.
September 11th, 2012 at 12:37 am
Fredrick Johnathan Bartholemew Flinstone ESQ Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 12:35 am
say what you want about this meatless travesty, the chargers still, as always, suck wind that is released from the anus.
they think they something special because they beat the raiders tonight, but they still emit foul and repulsive body odor.
knowing condo was hurt, moore didnt play, and kelly had a couple of drive extending penalties, in my mind, take away those things and we win that game.
we can beat the dolphins if we can just score more points than they do.
>> well we’ll have to beat them 10-7 because i don’t see the offense doing much at this point. hope they prove me wrong
September 11th, 2012 at 12:37 am
Also Shaughnessy was a let down against that rookie LT. I expected him to terrorize or at least force them to double. Not being able to pressure a QB like Rivers is trouble unless you have a lockdown secondary.
September 11th, 2012 at 12:37 am
If Condo doesn’t get hurt, I think we win.
September 11th, 2012 at 12:38 am
Pryor will be the quarterback by year’s end.
September 11th, 2012 at 12:38 am
51. You cant take away those things.. we lost. Bad.. it looked really really bad..
September 11th, 2012 at 12:38 am
Thec,I realize the org makes that decision but he sat out the end of last year with the hammy,the OTAs with the hammy,and all of training camp with it.There has to come a point where he has to at least attempt to practice and get on the field or he is of no value to the team.He is probably our best WR,but if he can NEVER get on the field,what good does he do us?
September 11th, 2012 at 12:40 am
Ive been saying this forever.. we have NO secondary or passrushers….
September 11th, 2012 at 12:40 am
and zero pass rush? so no we stop the run but CAN’T rush the passer? WTF, that will get you killed in todays Pass heavy NFL. better hit that QB hard and often
September 11th, 2012 at 12:40 am
We should at least have some packages for TP. And wtf was up with Taiwan Jones tonight.
September 11th, 2012 at 12:41 am
Screw you nut job professor. go hang on your niner sac for some feel good.
September 11th, 2012 at 12:42 am
Without jumping the snap tk and seymour cant get pressure… our de’s are run stoppers.. its a shltty mess
September 11th, 2012 at 12:42 am
Kirk Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 12:38 am
Pryor will be the quarterback by year’s end.
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That’s it.The insanity has no boundaries.
September 11th, 2012 at 12:43 am
4th and goal from the 1
Losing 13-3
Offense sputtering
Statement game. New era.
Nothing to lose.
Home crowd.
Aaaaand we kick a little field goal.
September 11th, 2012 at 12:43 am
Shltty!
September 11th, 2012 at 12:43 am
Purvisman Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 12:12 am
dr_robert Says:///Troll with no love of the Raiders. Knowledge of our history,yes. More than our knowledge of his teams history. Why is that rob_raider?
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i don’t really understand what u said here.
September 11th, 2012 at 12:44 am
I haven’t seen the game yet but some things stand out from Steve’s article.
-Carson Palmer threw 32 of 45 for 297 yards.
-There was a lot of self-inflicted wounds but you had to think there would be some with a new coach, new system, and a lot of new players.
-Someone on here kept wanting Al to fire Condo every year-I think maybe it was Dakota.
Now you know why Al Davis kept hiring Condo every year.
September 11th, 2012 at 12:44 am
defense is better off with a great pass rush and crap run D than the other way around nowadays.
September 11th, 2012 at 12:45 am
Welcome to the stinkcapades!!! 10 bucks a beer
September 11th, 2012 at 12:46 am
Thec Says: RAIDER NATION We will win next game.//////////That’s the spirit. My man!
September 11th, 2012 at 12:47 am
No. Its not
We’ve had solid pass rush with no run D last few years.
Averaged 28th ranked D and 5 wins a year.
Without all the special team nonsense, we hold rivers to 13 points.
September 11th, 2012 at 12:48 am
Go ahead jetwork. . Talk jets and donks all fuçking day.. they can win a fuçking game..
September 11th, 2012 at 12:49 am
Fire knapp.. and the teams coach..
September 11th, 2012 at 12:51 am
Kirk Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 12:21 am
Our second best offensive player was inactive….Pryor.
Incredibly stupid move, Dennis.
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wait, what?
September 11th, 2012 at 12:51 am
Put your stupid pants fuçked us!
September 11th, 2012 at 12:51 am
Kirk Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 12:23 am
One bright note…..I think we found a tight end.
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true dat
September 11th, 2012 at 12:51 am
Manassamauler Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 12:35 am
Thec Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 12:34 am
Marks Hair Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 12:33 am
Tp will get some time this yr.. we could start 0-4
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I will bet you that we beat the brakes off mim
>> what have you seen in this offense to make you think that?
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1. DMO will be playing.
2. JCRINER will be getting more reps.
3. Condo will be back from injury.
4. CP balled, and thew 0 ints, I expect a repeat performance.
5. DHB will get more looks, as DMO will pull coverage.
6. Team will learn from mistakes.
September 11th, 2012 at 12:51 am
you can’t win in a pass heavy league with no pass rush. chargers were never going to run the ball 40 times. nfl has changed in just the last 2-3 years. 3 5,000 yard passers last alone. better get a pass rush and quick.
September 11th, 2012 at 12:52 am
Marks Hair Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 12:24 am
Our te had what? 1 catch?
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5/65
September 11th, 2012 at 12:52 am
ENGLANDRAIDER Says: -Someone on here kept wanting Al to fire Condo every year-I think maybe it was Dakota.//////////// Bo Schembechler Jackson is otherwise a fairly sensible fan. Never appreciated Condo’s special teams play and for three years lobbied hard for the trading of Dmac for a cheese sandwich or less. But, he IS a Raider fan.
September 11th, 2012 at 12:53 am
Lefty12 Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 12:38 am
Thec,I realize the org makes that decision but he sat out the end of last year with the hammy,the OTAs with the hammy,and all of training camp with it.There has to come a point where he has to at least attempt to practice and get on the field or he is of no value to the team.He is probably our best WR,but if he can NEVER get on the field,what good does he do us?
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So Left, does the player say, Coach i want in, let me in?
Or does the ORG evaluate and say, you are not ready Son?
September 11th, 2012 at 12:53 am
Marks Hair Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 12:27 am
Im gonna go beat my kids!
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good idea
September 11th, 2012 at 12:53 am
Thec Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 12:51 am
Manassamauler Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 12:35 am
Thec Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 12:34 am
Marks Hair Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 12:33 am
Tp will get some time this yr.. we could start 0-4
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I will bet you that we beat the brakes off mim
>> what have you seen in this offense to make you think that?
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1. DMO will be playing.
2. JCRINER will be getting more reps.
3. Condo will be back from injury.
4. CP balled, and thew 0 ints, I expect a repeat performance.
5. DHB will get more looks, as DMO will pull coverage.
6. Team will learn from mistakes.
> you’re an optimistic person. good for you. palmer does get nice stats in this WCO isn’t it a waste of speed? 4.3 WRs running 3 yard routes.
September 11th, 2012 at 12:54 am
Manassamauler Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 12:51 am
you can’t win in a pass heavy league with no pass rush. chargers were never going to run the ball 40 times. nfl has changed in just the last 2-3 years. 3 5,000 yard passers last alone. better get a pass rush and quick.
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Chargers would have ran more if;
1. they had matthews
2. If they could however, we shut all that noise down.
September 11th, 2012 at 12:54 am
Manassamauler Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 12:51 am
you can’t win in a pass heavy league with no pass rush. chargers were never going to run the ball 40 times. nfl has changed in just the last 2-3 years. 3 5,000 yard passers last alone. better get a pass rush and quick.
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You can’t win with a Run Heavy predictable OC either.
They need to get rid of Knapp.
September 11th, 2012 at 12:56 am
I am not worried about the O. We get healthy, we will be fine. Not ready to jump ship, 15 games to play. This one is in the books, mimi is up next.
September 11th, 2012 at 12:57 am
Thec Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 12:54 am
Manassamauler Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 12:51 am
you can’t win in a pass heavy league with no pass rush. chargers were never going to run the ball 40 times. nfl has changed in just the last 2-3 years. 3 5,000 yard passers last alone. better get a pass rush and quick.
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Chargers would have ran more if;
1. they had matthews
2. If they could however, we shut all that noise down.
> Chargers haven’t been a running team since 2006. Rivers started to take it over after that. its been Gates and their WRs that have torched us since then. LT faded after 06.
September 11th, 2012 at 12:57 am
i heard it said once to not get too up about a victory and not to get too down about a loss. this was very disappointing but we could look very different next week. i have to see another one of these before i start going nuts.
September 11th, 2012 at 12:58 am
Who’s mimi?
September 11th, 2012 at 12:59 am
Burn it all!!!!
September 11th, 2012 at 12:59 am
Just joking Thec.
September 11th, 2012 at 1:00 am
Scortched earth!
September 11th, 2012 at 1:01 am
Anybody calmed down enough to tell me how we looked in the 2nd half?
September 11th, 2012 at 1:02 am
Like fagggs
September 11th, 2012 at 1:03 am
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Purvisman Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 12:12 am
dr_robert Says:///Troll with no love of the Raiders. Knowledge of our history,yes. More than our knowledge of his teams history. Why is that rob_raider?
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i don’t really understand what u said here.
September 11th, 2012 at 1:03 am
Chargers haven’t been a running team since 2006. Rivers started to take it over after that. its been Gates and their WRs that have torched us since then. LT faded after 06.
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Of course however, they do like to run a little bit more than they did tonite. The point I am making is, norv would have tried to run matthews more than he ran brown.
September 11th, 2012 at 1:03 am
J-Raider Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 12:04 am
The Official “Fire Greg Knapp” Petition
*J-Raider
*MonumentRaider
*EMRaiders
*JB
*Al_is_Theraiders
*Raiderimmortal
*DKnight007
*Marks Hair
*ArmChair
*Stringer Bell
*Ooo0ooO
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Let us please continue adding names to this list!!!
September 11th, 2012 at 1:04 am
I was vicadined and beered out and ready to enjoy it but got waylayed by a llama crisis and missed the entire 2nd half.
September 11th, 2012 at 1:04 am
I just returned a txt to my girl cuz… she said go chargers. I said FUÇK YOUR FACE!
September 11th, 2012 at 1:04 am
mimi = miami…Just take the a out.
September 11th, 2012 at 1:05 am
J-Raider Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 12:04 am
The Official “Fire Greg Knapp” Petition
*J-Raider
*MonumentRaider
*EMRaiders
*JB
*Al_is_Theraiders
*Raiderimmortal
*DKnight007
*Marks Hair
*ArmChair
*Stringer Bell
*Ooo0ooO
*RaidO
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Can we get this list to 100???
September 11th, 2012 at 1:05 am
mark’s hair–u have a way with the english language.
September 11th, 2012 at 1:05 am
Don’t think you’re really a fan rob_raider. Simple enough?
September 11th, 2012 at 1:05 am
based on what?
September 11th, 2012 at 1:06 am
there is no bigger raider fan than me
September 11th, 2012 at 1:07 am
Marks hair Says: Goood reply.
September 11th, 2012 at 1:07 am
Its not the end of the world guys. 15 more left.
We will win this Sunday, against any, and all odds.
1 NATION
September 11th, 2012 at 1:08 am
Im not fun when my boys lose.. FUÇK EVERYBODYS FACES RIGHT OFF!!!
September 11th, 2012 at 1:09 am
dr_robert Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 12:51 am
Kirk Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 12:21 am
Our second best offensive player was inactive….Pryor.
Incredibly stupid move, Dennis.
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wait, what?
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You heard me. Pryor is our second best offensive player.
I would find a way to get the ball in his hands. He is an incredible runner.
September 11th, 2012 at 1:09 am
586.2romes Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 12:48 am
In order for Knapp to come to terms of what is to be done he must address this one question. Can the Raiders establish a ruuning game from a zone blocking scheme he wanted to impliment. If he thinks so keep it. If he really is not dead set on it let it go because it will hinder the team future progress. Raiders fans know you have to get Reece more involved that is a given. But what I really feel Knapp and the others involved fail to see is in the zone blocking scheme there was a catching tightend waiting to devour the voids in the defense when mistakes were made. The Raiders tightend are rarely to take advantage of that. Meyers came alive abit at the end of the game to confirm that theory. The Raiders need to use EVERY player to their advantage on offense and that is what Hue was good at. Hue would have been great at the same thing with the Raiders on offense with one more year but he was let go. Knapp needs to stop being one step slower than everyone else he is going to face and DA needs to see that he gets the job done.
September 11th, 2012 at 1:10 am
Kirk Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 1:09 am
dr_robert Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 12:51 am
Kirk Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 12:21 am
Our second best offensive player was inactive….Pryor.
Incredibly stupid move, Dennis.
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wait, what?
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You heard me. Pryor is our second best offensive player.
I would find a way to get the ball in his hands. He is an incredible runner.
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well now ur talking about him as receiver.
September 11th, 2012 at 1:11 am
I’m borderline on Knapp and very glad Regie kept Saunders. Won’t commit ’till after mimi game.
September 11th, 2012 at 1:11 am
gonna be a long week boys. i’m gonna go watch a movie. 30 seconds or less. maybe it will be kinda funny.
September 11th, 2012 at 1:12 am
Marks hair Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 12:49 am
Fire knapp.. and the teams coach..
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Never have liked Knapp’s play calling including when he was here before and was replaced by that offensive master (sarcasm) Cable.
As I said, I haven’t watched the game yet but I’m sitting here looking at the stats and it says that Knapp had McFadden touching the ball 28 of 52 snaps from scrimmage.
It’s not too fuk’n hard to figure out what the dischargers did with that.
September 11th, 2012 at 1:13 am
Myers looked good at the end? Again, I missed 2nd half.
September 11th, 2012 at 1:13 am
The old guard is bitter. Of course they’ll hold the new guard to unrealistic standards. Anything less than instant gratification is a failure.
Week one: 14-22 L
8 point loss, 0-1. Blow it all up and start over. Heck, bring back Al! (impractical solutions)
Just the nature of regime change.
September 11th, 2012 at 1:14 am
Thec-83-I don’t know.I don’t know who is responsible for him not practicing-the org saying you need to rest or the player saying I can’t go yet.I do believe there comes a time when the org has to expect something in return for the roster spot a player is taking.
September 11th, 2012 at 1:14 am
Dr. Robert, not just a receiver, a runner and a QB also.
I think he will be better all around than Palmer.
September 11th, 2012 at 1:15 am
Anybody want advice from a self proclaimed whiner fan?
September 11th, 2012 at 1:16 am
We will be good in a few yrs
September 11th, 2012 at 1:17 am
no, Mark. This year. We lost a game, is all.
September 11th, 2012 at 1:18 am
Thec Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 1:07 am
Its not the end of the world guys. 15 more left.
We will win this Sunday, against any, and all odds.
1 NATIOn.
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You’re right Thec.
Bottom line is that we’re a rebuilding team with a new head coach, new system, new players, and a QB who hasn’t played that many games with the team.
People who were assuming Superbowl weren’t thinking. As I said, it’s pobably going to be around 8-8.
September 11th, 2012 at 1:18 am
Ill smoke 3 more joints and by 3am ill be calm enough to stop beating my wife and kids and try to sleep..
September 11th, 2012 at 1:18 am
We’re good now. Defense will end the year in top 10. We’ll have a long snapper next week. We’re not going to give any other team the opportunities we gave SD with those bad punt snaps, and we still held them to a FG in all of those situations.
September 11th, 2012 at 1:19 am
Hey, golden jew boy. You done rubbing ‘em out over the whiners?
September 11th, 2012 at 1:19 am
Marks Hair, it’s only a game.
Without the Condo injury we win.
September 11th, 2012 at 1:19 am
man fugg that b!tch azz rivers
September 11th, 2012 at 1:20 am
I predicted 7-9..
September 11th, 2012 at 1:20 am
Marks hair Says: Ill smoke 3 more joints and by 3am ill be calm enough to stop beating my wife and kids and try to sleep..//////What? You don’t have a dog?
September 11th, 2012 at 1:21 am
9-7. at worst.
September 11th, 2012 at 1:21 am
128. I dont see that..
September 11th, 2012 at 1:22 am
I love my dog
September 11th, 2012 at 1:23 am
purvisman = John Herrera
September 11th, 2012 at 1:24 am
Still mad cause Reggie tossed you out, John?
September 11th, 2012 at 1:24 am
Its only a game is for ladys bball.. my stomach hurts like a zbs!
September 11th, 2012 at 1:24 am
NoPassingZone Says:
September 10th, 2012 at 11:12 pm
2011 #1 Rushing Attack in the NFL until DMC went down.
2011 One of the most respected Offensive LineCoaches in the NFL. Transformed a rag-tag, misfit O-Line into an effective bully. Plays designed according to what McFadden liked to run.
Rookie Head Coach & GM come in and absolutely need to blow up EVERYTHING??? Even the things that are working? Dennis Allen needs/deserves absolute control that a Superbowl winning coaches demand? Was I the only one thinking that maybe this is a little too much to bite off in your first rodeo? Were all of you too giddy as you danced around Al’s grave gushing over every single move McKenzie made as tough he invented the game? Seems some of the moves were made solely to show how different they were from Al. Well it’s not working out so well, our line looked pathetic. Shoved around at the L.O.S. DMC stopped for zero to neg yardage more times than I care to remember. Still got the hard-on?
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all they had to do was revamp the defense and let saunders run the O. i cant stand that damn knapp. we need to hope that we get and stay healthy. hopefully our talent on offense will be enough to overcome the sh!tyness known as knapp.
September 11th, 2012 at 1:25 am
Nobody fires their OC after his first game, especially when there’s 3 failed punt snaps in that game. Give up, Herrera.
September 11th, 2012 at 1:25 am
Fire the shlt coaches!!
September 11th, 2012 at 1:25 am
Marks hair Says: I love my dog//////////That was funny.
September 11th, 2012 at 1:27 am
Fire!!!!
September 11th, 2012 at 1:27 am
Sully. Why did you respond to my golden jew boy post?
September 11th, 2012 at 1:28 am
Herrera, nobody fires their OC after his first game, and when there’s 3 failed punt snaps in that game. See if 7-11’s hiring. Mark’s not going to force Reggie’s hand and bring you back. You’re out. Chump.
September 11th, 2012 at 1:30 am
Herrera, scratch that. Even 7-11 wouldn’t hire you. You have no work ethic. You only know how to kiss Al Davis’s ass. And now that he’s dead, that pretty much leaves you with zero useful skills, doesn’t it? Go live with your mom. Knapp’s staying. So is Reggie. And Reggie’s not letting you near the building.
September 11th, 2012 at 1:34 am
Zbs will waste dmacs yr
September 11th, 2012 at 1:35 am
J-Raider Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 12:04 am
The Official “Fire Greg Knapp” Petition
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*EMRaiders
*JB
*Al_is_Theraiders
*Raiderimmortal
*DKnight007
*Marks Hair
*ArmChair
*Stringer Bell
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*RaidO
*Armond
September 11th, 2012 at 1:36 am
Dookey!!
September 11th, 2012 at 1:37 am
C’mon Sully. I asked previously and got no resopnse. Can you tell me , briefly, how the second half went down?
I was denied the pleasure of watching it.
September 11th, 2012 at 1:38 am
I’m starting to agree,Marks Hair.
September 11th, 2012 at 1:39 am
The defense looked remarkably better. The secondary was a little shaky at times and the pass rush didn’t pressure Rivers enough, but the run D was magnificent.
The bottom line is this…
Most of us said it from the beginning, but tonight it was proven true. There is nothing wrong with the zone blocking scheme and West Coast offense if you have the personnel to effectively implement it.
Our players are built for speed and down the field big plays. Mcfadden had the best start of his career in a POWER blocking scheme. We all saw that except Reggie and Co.
Retaining Saunders was the smartest decision made thus far…Give him the OC job, go back to a Power blocking scheme and utilize Marcel Reece like we did last season.
September 11th, 2012 at 1:41 am
If we still had last season’s offensive scheme with Saunders, along with the defense we saw tonight, we would be going to the AFC Championship game, hands down.
So far it looks like 1 step forward, 1.5 steps backwards!
September 11th, 2012 at 1:42 am
I was definitely proud of my last years MUP choice DHB’s sideline catch in the first half. looked good.
September 11th, 2012 at 1:43 am
One of the best games McFadden has had as a pro was his 1st game against KC running behind-you guessed it-the ZBS.
September 11th, 2012 at 1:46 am
lefty12 Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 1:43 am
One of the best games McFadden has had as a pro was his 1st game against KC running behind-you guessed it-the ZBS.
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True, but the best SERIES OF CONSECUTIVE BIG GAMES for Mcfadden, came after we switched to a Power Scheme, and the coaches asked Mcfadden what types of plays best suited his skill set.
We cannot ignore those facts!
September 11th, 2012 at 1:50 am
ArmChair GM Says: We cannot ignore those facts!/////////////We don’t. I fear Knapp might.
September 11th, 2012 at 1:51 am
Because he was hurt most of the time we ran the ZBS.Good backs are good no matter what scheme they run under and McFadden is a damn good back and will be fine.
September 11th, 2012 at 1:51 am
purvisman Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 1:50 am
ArmChair GM Says: We cannot ignore those facts!/////////////We don’t. I fear Knapp might.
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Knapp is more worthless than a used condom.
September 11th, 2012 at 1:54 am
lefty12 Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 1:51 am
Because he was hurt most of the time we ran the ZBS.Good backs are good no matter what scheme they run under and McFadden is a damn good back and will be fine.
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You are in denial. If that was the only factor, then why did the coaches feel the need to ask Mcfadden what plays best suited him? Followed by him leading the league in rushing immediately after that?
Yes Mcfadden is a good back. And he can have some good games occasionally using Zone blocking. But to truly maximize his talent, the plays we ran last year under Saunders need to be reimplemented!
September 11th, 2012 at 1:55 am
Our oline sucks in the zbs… it will hurt dmacs #s
September 11th, 2012 at 1:56 am
Fire knapp out of a cannon into the bay
September 11th, 2012 at 1:57 am
ArmChair GM Says: Knapp is more worthless than a used condom.////////How about wet toilet paper?
September 11th, 2012 at 1:59 am
I thought it was a good idea to ask him what plays he prefers to run.Wish they would do that now.But he can be just as successful in either system.
September 11th, 2012 at 2:14 am
Huejax doesn’t look so bad now huh? Lol is what hue is doing.
September 11th, 2012 at 2:27 am
i want to be on the fire knapp list
da and reggie need to sit down with palmer and dmac, you could tell
by their body language they were pissed as well
I’ve never seen dmac with that body language – he’s either going to get hurt or give up
September 11th, 2012 at 2:28 am
Hue was a good OC.
Also bat sh.. crazy.
September 11th, 2012 at 2:56 am
[...] Allen] asked if I knew how to long snap, and I was the only one at camp that stood out,” Goethel said. “That’s kind of how I got put in [...]
September 11th, 2012 at 3:12 am
[...] Allen] asked if I knew how to long snap, and I was the only one at camp that stood out,” Goethel said. “That’s kind of how I got put in [...]
September 11th, 2012 at 4:04 am
Hate waking up to an Oakland loss but what are you gona do? I had an funny feeling about this game as soon as Taiwan Jones fumbled the opening kickoff, he looked terrible out there and I feel sorry for McFadden. There’s no way he’s going to last the whole season with the dink donk pass every ball to the rb offense. The zone scheme just doesnt seem like its meant for the Raiders. I was impressed with the run defense and I think we have a new starter in Miles B. Aaron Curry probably just lost his spot at LB, bcuz Burris looks like a animal out there. The pass D just worries me to death,, Giardono still looks lost out there and I wasn’t impressed with Ron Bartell, not to mention he’s already hurt,,,, again. Still giving up big 3rd down plays and we still commit stupid penalties (Tommy Kelly) that result in extended drives which resulted in a TD,, see how that causes you to lose game? Props to the LBs,, they might be our strength ( I still hate McClain wearing that cb facemask,, nitpicking),,I just hate losing to the Chargers, but if we lose to the Dolphins I’ll be on suicide watch.
Raiders-24 Dolphins-13
September 11th, 2012 at 4:42 am
For the record, and because it’s been a social media rumor, DAllen asked about possible Ford surgery Saturday night. Said he knew nothing.
by Jerrymcd via twitter
2:08 AMWithout getting overly speculative, seems strange Raiders WR Jacoby Ford wasn’t present even though inactive.
by Jerrymcd via twitter
Here’s bottom line on Knapp’s offense _ it won’t be very good on nights they rush for 45 yards. Count on it. Balance is a necessity.
by Jerrymcd via twitter 1:59 AM
September 11th, 2012 at 4:58 am
I can’t dwell on this game painful as it was…the blunders snowballed .. The Chargers weren’t able to put the game away…. Lots of things can develope with 15 games left…. I’ll need to see how they rebound and I’m not about to start calling for a change in scheme or personal after 1 game… I’ve got faith in Allen and I’m sure he saw what we saw…..
September 11th, 2012 at 5:03 am
Ahhhh the great Hue Jackson again in here.
Remember his first game with us in Tennessee?
13 points, a pathetic 286 total yards, 4.1 YARDS PER PASS, 4.3 PER PLAY, 4 sacks, 2 turnovers on offense.
All worse than yesterday where it was:
14 points, 321 yards, 6 yards per pass, 4.7 per play, 3 sacks, 1 turnover.
Perspective people!!!
September 11th, 2012 at 5:12 am
If we want Knapp and our offense to be as productive as Hue’s was, HE IS AHEAD OF SCHEDULE.
September 11th, 2012 at 5:22 am
Been watching this game for over 30 years – never heard of an injury to a long snapper before.
BSJ must be going nuts.
September 11th, 2012 at 5:26 am
I think the O line is the problem and that o line will never be a bully let alone power block.
That second half = 4 man pass rush was blowing Raiders back. CP was pressured the whole game
DMAC needs to roid up. He was not breaking tackles.
This will get it started
It aint Knaps ZBS fault that mac cannot run
September 11th, 2012 at 5:28 am
WE did everything possible to get the ball in the hands of our star running back and he never went anywhere.
No Oline help & No WR help = a long season
September 11th, 2012 at 5:29 am
……..and let’s try to relax a little.
It’s the first game with a new Headcoach,with new position coaches,a lot of new players,a new gameplan, all being watched over by a new general manager and a new owner.
I hate losing but we have to give it time.
September 11th, 2012 at 5:35 am
Plunketthead Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 5:26 am
I think the O line is the problem and that o line will never be a bully let alone power block.
That second half = 4 man pass rush was blowing Raiders back. CP was pressured the whole game
I take that back. WE started off well. Things went well untill they realized DM was the only game in town
September 11th, 2012 at 5:40 am
Here’s what I don’t get….We drop 8 guys into coverage, and SD is still completing passes. Do we have NO blitz pkgs for safeties/corners? I mean, you have GOT to be kidding; we can’t cover A SOUL, and knowing this, why don’t we just send them after the QB???!!!
This is the kind of poor coaching that makes me completely insane. As does too many men in the huddle on a 4th and inches that leads to a disastrous punt. Spec Teams guy has got to go-if this is what he has in game 1, no way its getting better-I promise you that.
September 11th, 2012 at 5:42 am
Gio came in on a nice blitz and forced an incomplete pass on 3rd down once, and on one of the last throws to Gates, we sent like 7 people on the blitz.
September 11th, 2012 at 5:43 am
Klas with serious football hangover. Takes from last night:
Barnes has to go
Still need CB upgrade
Need pass rusher
ST coach suck ass
Meyers may be decent TE
Best Raider LBs since Reggie was playing LB
Knapp needs to open up and let Palmer run more no huddle
Bo Schembeckler Jackson is idiot
September 11th, 2012 at 5:44 am
Bo Schembeckler Jackson, Klas blames this loss on you for putting the bad joojoo on our long snapper.
September 11th, 2012 at 5:45 am
Klas also learned he need faster internet service. Very frustrating watching game that lags every 5 seconds.
September 11th, 2012 at 5:49 am
Neilb Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 5:29 am
……..and let’s try to relax a little.
It’s the first game with a new Headcoach,with new position coaches,a lot of new players,a new gameplan, all being watched over by a new general manager and a new owner.
I hate losing but we have to give it time.
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Excuse, Excuse, Excuse, Excuse, Excuse. You forgot that they had new jerseys too. Yeah that’s why we lost.
New Headcoach – that made no halftime adjustments, spent more time over with the DC than with Knapp. Almost as if he’s not engaged with the offense at all. I thought he was going to “manage the coaches”.
New Gameplan – you mean no gameplan, we have a zone blocking team that refuses to cut block, we abandoned the screen game, resorted to stupid trick plays (isn’t that what stunk about Cable and HuJax??) And made NO halftime adjustments.
New GM/Owner – really?? Our team owner/GM died last year we lost our best defensive player (note to Bartell — TAKE OFF THE #21!!! JERSEY) Our new GM can’t bring in a serviceable TE or a long snapper with any experience.
Next week, we face a team that just faced our exact offense and held Arian Foster to 80 yards on 26 carries. DA better right this ship now. He doesn’t have time. Miami will be a test to see how well DA can lead this team.
Until proven otherwise all we have done is replace a series of coaches that had no control over the defense with a new coach that is disinterested in the offense and special teams.
September 11th, 2012 at 5:51 am
New GM/Owner – really?? Our team owner/GM died last year we lost our best defensive player (note to Bartell — TAKE OFF THE #21!!! JERSEY) Our new GM can’t bring in a serviceable TE or a long snapper with any experience.
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Dude, we have best long snapper in football. I put blame on ST coach for not being prepared for injury.
September 11th, 2012 at 5:51 am
Raiders 17
Miami 10
September 11th, 2012 at 6:01 am
Good morning Nation. Rise and shine. Some of us are still bleary eyed but what can you do? Up and at ‘em!
Forget about the hangover. Man up.
September 11th, 2012 at 6:03 am
A few years ago, Condo would have stayed in the game with his concussion. Just sh*tty luck.
September 11th, 2012 at 6:04 am
Sorry,I forgot ’bout nike instead of reebok.
September 11th, 2012 at 6:04 am
7-9 says it all. Puntured my hopes for this year.
September 11th, 2012 at 6:05 am
The new coaches are learning,Give them time.
September 11th, 2012 at 6:05 am
“We just go with the offense, however the offense is called that’s how we roll,” McFadden said.
He doesn’t sound very convinced, does he?.
September 11th, 2012 at 6:06 am
CANNOT keep feeding McFadden the ball 30 times a game. That’s not an offensive gameplan. That’s suicide. Horrible playcalls throughout. Got to get others involved or the defense shadows DMC and suffocates him from getting space.
September 11th, 2012 at 6:08 am
No he doesn’t sound convinced. I’m sure McFadden’s fantasy owners were thrilled, but that’s not the recipe for winning football. Checkdown to McFadden, run, checkdown again a yard short, then punt. Then watch punt blocked or fumbled. ugh!!!
!@#$#@$@#$!!
September 11th, 2012 at 6:09 am
So who’s fault is it when on 3rd down, a receiver runs routes short of the first down marker?
I understand clear out routes and the susequent dumpoffs underneath.
It’s always the TEs and RBs who are NEVER past the marker coming out of their breaks.
September 11th, 2012 at 6:10 am
Oline didn’t look cohesive at all.
Much more concerned about the run blocking.
September 11th, 2012 at 6:11 am
Did we call any screens?
September 11th, 2012 at 6:11 am
The DB’s are allowing, almost goading the WR’s to run routes short of the sticks. Then they converge and take him down short. It’s all part of the plan. If the WR goes past the marker on his route, he’s gonna be in a dogfight because technically it’s still in the 5 yard area of allowed contact. 3rd and short passes are going to kill us if we don’t call plays downfield to a TE who can create space.
Lack of a legit TE is biting us in the butt hard.
September 11th, 2012 at 6:12 am
Bartell out already?
How much did we pay Branch again?
55 looked dominant!
September 11th, 2012 at 6:13 am
Defense played well enough to win the game, gotta give credit to DA and Tarver, that’s about it.
Props to Rolando McClain and Richard Seymour as well, glad we didn’t get rid of them like so many people wanted.
Miles Burris, nice job young man.
We all counted on the D harrasing Rivers all night long, that didn’t happen, we need to get much better, the blitz didn’t get to Rivers but overall the D was good enough.
September 11th, 2012 at 6:13 am
172….. Good perspective… Agree..
September 11th, 2012 at 6:14 am
Palmer had a very poor game and threw a couple of balls that could have been easily picked. He keeps throwing those off balance, back foot heaves trying to make a play. And it worked sometimes, but it’s too risky and he actually got away with his “gunslinger” throws. It could have been much much worse though.
September 11th, 2012 at 6:14 am
Lack of a TE????
Is that what you gou outta last night’s game?
September 11th, 2012 at 6:16 am
I thought Ausberry looked pretty good on the ONE pass thrown his way.
Myers looked good at the end of the game when his number finally got called.
September 11th, 2012 at 6:16 am
The defense did play well enough to win. But Tommy Kelly really ruined a lot of momentum with his dumb play. And then the special teams snafus just demoralized the group and they wore down. They didn’t seem as interested in taking down Phyllis Rivers as they were later, even when the game was in the early 4th quarter.
September 11th, 2012 at 6:17 am
That Tenn game last year was a stinker….had that same feeling last night… Hard to take, but it is what it is… Gotta get better ..
September 11th, 2012 at 6:17 am
Taiwan Jones is DVD on offense.
Goodson is CLEARLY the backup RB.
September 11th, 2012 at 6:18 am
Myers looked good in garbage time. That’s all that was. Inside a real gameplan with the game in doubt, he’s not getting those targets. Don’t believe the mirage.
September 11th, 2012 at 6:19 am
Kelly deserves a lot of heat.
TWICE on 3rd down on the SAME drive?????
SMH
September 11th, 2012 at 6:19 am
JFB.
You can spin it every way you want, but you can’t honestly be pleased with what you saw last night on Offense.
No running game, no challenging the Defense,poor pass blocking, we made it easy for SD’s Defense, all they needed to do was cover 10 yards down the field.
2 flags for 12 man on the field including a key 3rd and 1 after the great 3erd and 2 one yard pass to Myers, there was also a key delay of game, what he hell?.
September 11th, 2012 at 6:19 am
Definitely taking the under on the Raider/Miami game.
September 11th, 2012 at 6:19 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
Ahhhh the great Hue Jackson again in here.
Remember his first game with us in Tennessee?
All worse than yesterday
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Please stop being rational. This is now officially a “fire Knapp” forum.
Game summary: WRs that couldn’t get open, multiple missed deep throws, a negative 25 yard reverse, dropped passes, inconsistent blocking, three botched punts, a clueless kick returner, back-to-back offsides penalties, delay of game at the 2 yard line, etc.
Firing Knapp fixes all of that. LOL
September 11th, 2012 at 6:22 am
JFB.
You can spin it every way you want, but you can’t honestly be pleased with what you saw last night on Offense.
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Of course I am not pleased, things got very stale last night.
Just sick of hearing about how bad Knapp sucks, and providing some statistical perspective to compare how both the Knapp and Hue Jackson offensives started off.
Basically, about the same. In fact Hue got off to a worse start, and things didn’t look all that great at halftime of week 2 in 2010.
A month later we are scoring 50 in Denver.
A little perspective before everyone jumps off a bridge.
September 11th, 2012 at 6:23 am
Raiders lost last nights game because of INJURIES.
September 11th, 2012 at 6:24 am
Game summary: WRs that couldn’t get open, multiple missed deep throws, a negative 25 yard reverse, dropped passes, inconsistent blocking, three botched punts, a clueless kick returner, back-to-back offsides penalties, delay of game at the 2 yard line, etc.
Firing Knapp fixes all of that. LOL
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Bring back Shoop!!!
September 11th, 2012 at 6:24 am
Inside a real gameplan with the game in doubt, he’s not getting those targets.
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SD still had their starters in, and they were playing hard.
Open and making plays is open and making plays.
I’ll bet you 3 sees it differently and gained some confidence in Myers. You’ll see him get more looks early next week.
September 11th, 2012 at 6:24 am
Lol.. Agree… Step back from the ledge …. Don’t jump…… Just yet..
September 11th, 2012 at 6:25 am
But hey, it was one game, it’s a long season, build on the positives and move on.
September 11th, 2012 at 6:25 am
I am sure 2 years ago, Condo gets back in the game, half-cocked and executes the snaps in a slight fog.
But since all the former players can’t manage their money and bravado, they are suing the NFL and this is what we get, concussion “protocal”.
F U Jim McMahon!!!!
September 11th, 2012 at 6:25 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 6:23 am
Raiders lost last nights game because of INJURIES.
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Nope. They lost because they had no composure. Injuries HAPPEN TO EVERYONE. No one is immune. It’s how you react that tells about your character.
September 11th, 2012 at 6:26 am
RT
Dont forget streeters fumble that killed a drive.
We started off moving the ball
September 11th, 2012 at 6:26 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
Raiders lost last nights game because of INJURIES.
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For the most part. No question not having Moore and Ford, then losing Condo were the biggest factors. But those miscues like delay of game and that reverse have to be corrected too.
September 11th, 2012 at 6:28 am
Seems like Reggie was right abut Cedric Benson. He did nothing for Packers.
September 11th, 2012 at 6:29 am
Taiwan couldn’t have looked any more unimpressive, IMO. Bad body language, he looks small, not at all interested in taking a chance and take out a kick. In fact, he didn’t even field two of them, almost seeming afraid to even catch it.
Love the “he would have scored on the reverse” catcalls.
My money says better chance that he would have tripped on the dirt.
September 11th, 2012 at 6:29 am
The implosion in the 2nd half was discouraging to watch. Early in the 4th and it was only 19-6, but it felt so out of reach. I don’t know if this team feels confident in their ability to score a touchdown when they need to. They are good at driving to the redzone and securing the 3 points, but have no plan to consistently score in the red zone. I think Knapp deserves a good amount of heat for not preparing a gameplan that played to the strength of the defense. Was there ever any adjustments made? If so, I didn’t detect any.
September 11th, 2012 at 6:30 am
” In fact, he didn’t even field two of them”
And then he fielded that one at the 7 yard line? WTF?
September 11th, 2012 at 6:31 am
Tommy Kelly….didn’t back up his jawing a couple weeks back when he dissed Kolb.. ( Kolb was scared)… If your gonna throw smack like that you can jump offsides in key situations… Just fking dumb …
September 11th, 2012 at 6:31 am
Just Fire Baby:
Game summary: WRs that couldn’t get open, multiple missed deep throws, a negative 25 yard reverse, dropped passes, inconsistent blocking, three botched punts, a clueless kick returner, back-to-back offsides penalties, delay of game at the 2 yard line, etc.
Firing Knapp fixes all of that. LOL.
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Fact:
If Hue Jackson was coaching last night, most people would be placing the blame on him for all those blunders.
12 man on the field twice including a key 3rd and 1? a key delay of game at the goal line? not even a few reps for the back-up long snapper during the week?.
That and more would be on Hue, I guarantee it, but hey DA is a Rookie HC…..hmmm so was Hue.
I didn’t bring up Hue, you did, better move on there.
September 11th, 2012 at 6:32 am
Taiwan had a bad first game. You want perspective, and it’s one game out of 16. He’ll bounce back and be productive. keep the faith.
September 11th, 2012 at 6:33 am
55 looked dominant!
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Pretty fair argument to say he was maybe our best player yesterday.
Him, Palmer, Seymour would be my 3.
2nd half for Darren was unimpressive. First guy brought him down waaaaaay too often.
September 11th, 2012 at 6:34 am
Just to be clear, I stand behind DA.
September 11th, 2012 at 6:34 am
Why are we talking about a failed ex-HC who is now shuttling water buckets for Cincy corners who got roasted last night on Nat’l TV? Is he or what he does/did have any significance to this team? Hue? don’t care about him now.
September 11th, 2012 at 6:34 am
You want perspective, and it’s one game out of 16.
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It’s not really one game, he has never done anything of measure in the regular season, and doesn’t seem to be getting any closer to doing so.
September 11th, 2012 at 6:34 am
I’m out.
Later Raiders.
September 11th, 2012 at 6:34 am
So whats the news on Ford?
He was not at the game?
Did he have surgery?
Sounds like trouble unless Jacoby was just getting his grove on
September 11th, 2012 at 6:36 am
Wonder if Condo haters are going to still come in here and scream out to cut him.
September 11th, 2012 at 6:36 am
12 man on the field twice including a key 3rd and 1? a key delay of game at the goal line?
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ACtually I would have found room to blame Jason Campbell for that, lol.
Palmer has to have control of those situations and get the guys ready.
What did they call it for Pryor? “Huddle procedure”?
Why the F is this an issue for us?
September 11th, 2012 at 6:36 am
McFadden is not Jim Brown.
Those guys get paid too.
September 11th, 2012 at 6:37 am
It’s not really one game, he has never done anything of measure in the regular season, and doesn’t seem to be getting any closer to doing so.
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Last year was his rookie year. It’s not like he’s some old vet who never reached his potential. He’s still a pup.
September 11th, 2012 at 6:40 am
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/11/even-without-gaither-chargers-able-to-protect-rivers/
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Hmmmm, I gues beating up on “2nd string” LTs for for 4 sacks isn’t as easy as some of us thought.
September 11th, 2012 at 6:40 am
Not going to completely pile on Knapp …. BUT….
Didn’t like the gameplan.
Ausberry and Reece should have been WAY more invloved in the passing game. They should have both been on the field at the same time A LOT more.
Too much McFadden.
September 11th, 2012 at 6:41 am
2nd half for Darren was unimpressive. First guy brought him down waaaaaay too often.
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What didya expect? They leaned on him waaaaaay too often wouldn’t you say. As great as DMC is, especially with the defense sending dedicated shadowers on every play, he’ll wear down. He’s human.
September 11th, 2012 at 6:43 am
Taiwan Jones = DVD
COMPLETELY agree with the bad body language.
Won’t say any NFL player is scared or a puss….BUT…. don’t like RBs who always dance around and try and bounce things outside.
September 11th, 2012 at 6:44 am
Didn’t like the gameplan.
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Me neither. We should have been taking more shots downfield, even if that carried more risk of a low percentage throw. Checking down like that only encourages the defense to crowd the LOS and contain every play to short yards. Once we got down by 7 points, we needed to open it up there in the 3rd Qtr, but we kept dinking and dunking. Knapp never deviated from his script.
September 11th, 2012 at 6:44 am
The implosion in the 2nd half was discouraging to watch. Early in the 4th and it was only 19-6, but it felt so out of reach. I don’t know if this team feels confident in their ability to score a touchdown when they need to. They are good at driving to the redzone and securing the 3 points, but have no plan to consistently score in the red zone. I think Knapp deserves a good amount of heat for not preparing a gameplan that played to the strength of the defense. Was there ever any adjustments made? If so, I didn’t detect any.
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I think I’m more frustrated because I’d been of the few who said “Give Knapp a chance”. Everything I’ve read in here of people’s critiques of Knapp, I saw last night.
The mind numbing amout of check-downs to DMAC, all the short throws, on 3rd down; throwing the ball shy of the sticks….EVEN 3rd and FREAKIN 2…They throw a 1 YARD PASS. DAMNIT….
I didn’t feel like they had “Big Play capability”. You mentioned not having confidence to score when they need to. Maybe cause their new proceedure is a methodical 6-8 minute drive gaining 5 yds at a time. No more quick strike.
September 11th, 2012 at 6:45 am
They leaned on him waaaaaay too often wouldn’t you say.
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Absolutely they did.
But I am sure Darren would expect a better 2nd half performance from himself and so will I.
He has to break a tackle or two here and there. That one 3rd down play when Palmer threw it off his back foot in the flat changed the game.
Next play, blocked punt, pretty much game over.
September 11th, 2012 at 6:47 am
why is everyone talking about pryor starting over palmer…palmer wasnt the problem…we dont have any wrs or te…….of course special teams was the kicker in the game…no pun intended….all in all i have confidence in the new coaching staff and reggie..the players reggie brought in played great…he is playing with the hand that was given to him….what do u expect in an offense that started an undrafted wr and another that was signed on thursday….
September 11th, 2012 at 6:47 am
Firebaby
Who you gonna take with the #1 pick on the wire?
September 11th, 2012 at 6:49 am
Ouch!!!
Probably a defense better than the Saints, lol.
September 11th, 2012 at 6:50 am
They throw a 1 YARD PASS. DAMNIT….
I didn’t feel like they had “Big Play capability”. You mentioned not having confidence to score when they need to. Maybe cause their new proceedure is a methodical 6-8 minute drive gaining 5 yds at a time. No more quick strike.
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If the dinks and dunks work and lead to wins, I can adapt to the new philosophy. But they don’t work, so I’m not too happy. I’m from the generation of your dad’s Raiders and we believed in the quick strike offense that put fear into DB’s and scored on any given play. I miss that style. Al Davis football. I don’t care for this pansy-like conservative play, but I guess that’s the brand of football we will play so I’ll grind my teeth and wait.
September 11th, 2012 at 6:50 am
LIKE I SAID GREG KNAPPS OFFENSE SUCKS, IF HUE JACKSON would be running the offense whole different story, RAIDERS WOULD HAD WON.
September 11th, 2012 at 6:51 am
Nice to see that our coaches let the fate of the team ride on the shoulders of Condo. Horrible coaching last night, with the exception of defense.
September 11th, 2012 at 6:51 am
I just want to see how they respond Sunday in Miami…. And just hope this first game isn’t a trend… Also want to see how Allen deals with this …
September 11th, 2012 at 6:52 am
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
September 10th, 2012 at 7:52 am
The Raids demonstrated conclusively last year that they can move the ball and score against the Chargers.
The Charger defense does not figure to be significantly improved this year.
Besides MBush and JFord, the Raids bring back the same cast on offense tonight, that moved the ball effectively against SD last year. In fact, with a healthy DMAC, we should expect even better results.
If the Raids fail to move the ball and put up points tonight, that will be a very bad sign.
Yes, it’s only week 1, but we should be ready.
Hopefully, we will not be hearing any excuses from Greg Knapp and his supporters after the game tonight.
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Our worst fears realized.
Could smell the Krapp storm on the way yesterday morning.
There’s an odor to Krapp that’s unmistakable.
Smells like LOSING.
‘Plenty of blame to go around in Raiders loss’…
Strangely, Krapp isn’t even mentioned by Corky.
I’ll say it for you, Cork.
Krapp’s offense SUCKS.
Greg Krapp is going to doom the 2012 Raids, and tits Allen doesn’t get a pass for hiring the buffoon.
September 11th, 2012 at 6:53 am
Fuggetabout Hue. That’s looking in the rear view mirror and if he was worth a penny on the dollar of what he thought he was worth, he’d be an NFL GM right now instead of a asst secondary coach/waterboy. That’s reality and what the NFL truly thinks of Hue. Get over it, he sucks.
September 11th, 2012 at 6:54 am
Jfb. Pointedout Hues first game in tenn last yr…. Much like last night… I thinks that’s a good point ….
September 11th, 2012 at 6:54 am
It’s not like we NEVER took any chances down the field.
One throw to DHB, he runs a bad route and gets chewed out.
Another time deep to Streater on the sidelines, off his hands can’t come up with it.
September 11th, 2012 at 6:54 am
The Raiders lost because of Carson Palmer. Sure he’ll give you the stats, but again a loss. He doesn’t have that IT factor that you see with the truly elite and top of the line qbs that will put the team on their backs and lead no matter what the situation, making plays when it counts, he’s just a loser and that infects the team, just like winners infect teams the positive way.
Sure, the Raiders have a moron for an OC, and a rookie coach that was totally overwhelmed and out-coached by Nerd Turner, if that can be done. Of course, the D looked better, but the dolts were running Ronnie Brown, I mean this is not LT.
But, the kicker, no pun intended, continues to be the stupid players (TK) who will take a crap not once but twice in the same drive, and have no accountability whatsoever, and plenty of excuses.
Aren’t you sick and tired of the Raiders making excuses for piss-poor play, game preparation and in-game play-calling?
If this the beginning of a “new era of excellence,” then we’re in for a lot of trouble ahead, this looked to me like the same ol’ samo excrement.
And don’t set your sights too high for the ‘fins’ game, it’s dangerous to have any faith in this team. I mean, the ‘fins were crap the last two seasons and they still put the hurt on the Raiders.
Can somebody please put a sock on Romanowski?
September 11th, 2012 at 6:55 am
Agreed… Hue is gone… What ifs don’t count ..
September 11th, 2012 at 6:56 am
Nice post 258. Don’t agree with all of it, but a good take nonetheless.
September 11th, 2012 at 7:00 am
Never would believe that the loss of a longsnapper would cause a team to look so bad for so long….
Sign me up D. Allen..I can longsnap
September 11th, 2012 at 7:00 am
Listening to Bill Simmons podcast from yesterday with Lombardi. Both said last night’s game was huge for Raiders. A must win for franchise.
September 11th, 2012 at 7:01 am
Goethel having is 15 minutes of fame.
September 11th, 2012 at 7:02 am
I’m not throwing anyone under the bus just yet … . But I will take notice .. Game 1sucked… 15 to go… Gonna take the rest of today off… Y’all be good ..
September 11th, 2012 at 7:06 am
You just know teams are gonna focus even more on taking McFadden out of the game, bottle him up in the run game, let him catch 3 yard passes all night long.
The big question is how is Knapp going to adjust if teams contain McFadden and they will if we can’t come up with anything else.
Here’s hoping last night was an aberration, we were supposed to harrass Rivers all night long and it didn’t happen, we were supposed to dominate the ground game and it didn’t happen.
Next week we face Miami, they have our number but this year’s Dolphins are the weakest they’ve been in years, gotta have that one.
September 11th, 2012 at 7:07 am
They throw a 1 YARD PASS. DAMNIT….
I didn’t feel like they had “Big Play capability”. You mentioned not having confidence to score when they need to. Maybe cause their new proceedure is a methodical 6-8 minute drive gaining 5 yds at a time. No more quick strike.
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If the dinks and dunks work and lead to wins, I can adapt to the new philosophy. But they don’t work, so I’m not too happy. I’m from the generation of your dad’s Raiders and we believed in the quick strike offense that put fear into DB’s and scored on any given play. I miss that style. Al Davis football. I don’t care for this pansy-like conservative play, but I guess that’s the brand of football we will play so I’ll grind my teeth and wait
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That’s just it man, it WASN’T effective. Not to mention Palmer getting squireley and throwing the ball at DMAC’s feet, behind him, too high, making Streater do the one arm reach for the slap down.
Anytime you saw DMAC split out, I knew it was going to him, and so did SD obviously; he’d either get drilled as soon as he caught the ball, or it was batted down. DMAC can run routes; LET HIM.
I can’t just shrug this one off. It would be better if they got beat fair and square and just got out hustled/out played…But they didn’t look coheisive or like they got their Sh*t together. Too many “keystone Cops” moments that flashed me back to years past.
And Discipline?????……Psshhh
September 11th, 2012 at 7:10 am
You will NOT Rise to the level of your opposition;
You will FALL to the level of your Preparation.
-Chip Kelley
Oregon Ducks
September 11th, 2012 at 7:10 am
“While the focus was on Harris, Rivers said he was surprised that the Raiders didn’t do more to confuse him.
“I thought going into the game that Mike matched up with that guy [Raiders defensive end Matt Shaughnessy],” Rivers said, ”
So basically Shaughnessy got his ass beat last night by a rookie WTF!!!
September 11th, 2012 at 7:13 am
Making Goethel the goat is unfair, shows how stupid and simple minded national media is, the guy never practiced for it and Condo called the protection schemes, we were out on a limb when punting last night.
- By the way, shouldn’t we, after the 1st Goethel snap, just get the gunners inside to max-protect the punter so he can get kicks off???.
Just have Lechler kick it as far as he can, chances are those punts would have gone into the End Zone with no return or he could have just punted out of bounds, why didn’t we think about this?.
September 11th, 2012 at 7:15 am
Bob Marley Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 7:13 am
Making Goethel the goat is unfair, shows how stupid and simple minded national media is, the guy never practiced for it and Condo called the protection schemes, we were out on a limb when punting last night.
- By the way, shouldn’t we, after the 1st Goethel snap, just get the gunners inside to max-protect the punter so he can get kicks off???.
Just have Lechler kick it as far as he can, chances are those punts would have gone into the End Zone with no return or he could have just punted out of bounds, why didn’t we think about this?.
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No kidding man, good point. I’m placing the blame on Knapp and DA for last night, way too many blunders out there to compete with decent teams.
September 11th, 2012 at 7:17 am
It’s kinda BS, not completely, but kinda, how after the game Palmer said because the defense was playing back so much, the safety deep and the linebackers deeper than usual, that they ‘had to’ dunk so often.
There are many NFL teams with more firepower than the Raiders on offense, the defense playing as such, yet those offenses still pass aggressively, or at least more vertically, than how we played last night.
Every time Knapp is the OC of a team, that team struggles breaking the coverages, playing forever short and conservative. That’s more the truth, than simply the defense played back.
Unfortunately, this next month or two, before Knapp is stripped of play-calling, is going to be agony to watch. I’m excited to finally see our Raiders more professional and with a good D, but we’re seriously going to lose A LOT of games with Knapp as OC, prepare yourselves for a 1-5 type of start with extremely frustrating offense and low offensive stats if Knapp is OC’ing into week 7.
I’m not sure if DA/RM will be panicked enough early this their first season to strip Knapp of play-calling or something more drastic, firing Knapp and hiring someone else to be OC, but it’s patently obvious it’s what’s needed. Sure, keep the system/playbook, but we need someone else to do the play-calling, finding more creative plays in the book, more vertical stuff, and getting Pryor involved too.
September 11th, 2012 at 7:20 am
Not sure why nobody else on the team can LS or even seems to care to try.
Condo needs to walk in the teams meeting on Wednesday, slap his paycheck on the white board (which should be twice as much as everyone else in the room) and tell everyone they should go practice rifling a few through their legs after practice.
September 11th, 2012 at 7:20 am
* I meant less firepower, not more re post #271
September 11th, 2012 at 7:22 am
Bob Marley Says:
- By the way, shouldn’t we, after the 1st Goethel snap, just get the gunners inside to max-protect the punter so he can get kicks off???.
Just have Lechler kick it as far as he can, chances are those punts would have gone into the End Zone with no return or he could have just punted out of bounds, why didn’t we think about this?.
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No kidding man, good point. I’m placing the blame on Knapp and DA for last night, way too many blunders out there to compete with decent teams.
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I was saying it to my friends during the game, I think it would worked, Lechler would have boomed those balls 70 yards and/or kicked it out of bounds giving SD no chance to return.
September 11th, 2012 at 7:23 am
For years in here, I always heard we need to build a defense, and that defense wins championships, and we don’t need an elite QB, just a game manager like Trent Dilfer or Brad Johnson.
Well, careful what you wish for. This team and organization will be built around a tough D and a safe offense that doesn’t lose games, for years on end.
September 11th, 2012 at 7:24 am
I said it all game long, the right side of the DL was manhandled by an undrafted rookie free agent.
Both Shonasty and Tollefson looked weak against the rookie Harris, no sacks or hits by the DL on Phyllis. I get it that it was ‘nasty’s first game back, but Tollefson? Wasn’t Corky telling us Tollefson was all of that and more, man, he sure looked bad on that pass rush on the td pass to Floyd.
I wonder why is it that Wiz or Parsons, both centers, can’t or won’t long snap. Where was Wiz last night?
September 11th, 2012 at 7:26 am
Wow…. Knapp…..wow
1-Reece needs to be more involved. Brandon Meyer had 5 catches. 5 ! Reece had 2.
2- DHB is not a decoy. He led the team in catches and yards last season.
3- improve your play calling, or you are going to be demoted AGAIN!
Eff U Knapp!
September 11th, 2012 at 7:27 am
Get well soon Jerry “the King” Lawler who suffered a heart attack at an event in Montreal. Turned blue and fell out of his chair. Lawler, 62yrs old was revived after 20 minutes of cpr and cardio stimulation. Puts life in perspective.
September 11th, 2012 at 7:28 am
Yes we were good against the run which was a nice thing to see but we did not pressure the QB at all last night, Shaughnessy was up against a rookie, he should have got 2 or 3 sacks last night but he got handled.
I know the offense was boring as all hell to watch but if we don’t fumble the ball twice and Condo does not get injured we might have won that game. I said MIGHT!
September 11th, 2012 at 7:29 am
GG,
Hard to get Pryor involved when he is inactive.
September 11th, 2012 at 7:29 am
What happened last night? I guess the “pre-season” doesn’t matter crap was wrong!
We also was lose to Miami in Miami so now is the perfect time to reverse that trend. I bet we win next Sunaday as a good defense keeps you in the game on the road plus we should be D-Wow back.
Please god give us a W tomorrow, living here in Denver and everyone here is talking SB, I won’t be able to leave my house plus my 7 year old doesn’t want to wear his Raider jersey to school until they Win.
September 11th, 2012 at 7:30 am
can everyone know see how reggie royally effed up this team?
September 11th, 2012 at 7:32 am
CP3 needs to be more like PM18. Tell the OC to STFU and call your own plays. That’s what a leader does. That’s why he wears the C on his jersey. He gets paid a lot more than Knapp, so take matters into your own hand.
Speaking of Captains, TK = DTM (dead to me). I can’t take that bs any longer
September 11th, 2012 at 7:33 am
The long-snapping issue could have been solved, at least helped, by reeling in the gunners into a max-protect scheme so Lechler could get the punts off, it was penetration more than the bad snaps that doomed us.
Goethel could have just focused on snapping it right with more blocking help and even if he kept snapping ground balls, Lechler with 9 men blocking, would have had time to pick it up and boomed those kicks into the End Zone or out of bounds, no returns.
September 11th, 2012 at 7:34 am
on a positive note, I like Miles Burris. We may finally have a LB who can actually play the position. Not like Tyler Brayton/Grant Irons running around out there with a deer-in-headlights look
September 11th, 2012 at 7:34 am
J Hill Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 6:09 am
So who’s fault is it when on 3rd down, a receiver runs routes short of the first down marker?
I understand clear out routes and the susequent dumpoffs underneath.
It’s always the TEs and RBs who are NEVER past the marker coming out of their breaks.
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Whose fault do you think it is ?
Yeah, I’ll bet you want to blame the recievers, but that’s a bunch of Krapp.
I’m not going to sit here and tell you the rcvrs are blameless. They’re not.
But the bottom line is we saw the same exact Krapp several times in the pre-season.
It’s not like the semi’s here didn’t note it and criticize Krapp for it.
Doesn’t Krapp practice these plays and have the rcvrs make sure that they’re past the marker ?
Isn’t the OC responsible for making sure the players understand situations ?
What’s the freaking point of running a 2 yard route on 3rd and 3 ?
You mean to tell me that you don’t run a 5 yard route and provide for some margin of error ?
Who’s fault is it ?
It’s Krapp’s fault. It’s his offense. His scheme. His play calling.
I’ll tell you something else…
I can accept losing if I’m convinced the opposing team has better players.
I can’t accept losing because of bullspit coaching and coordinating.
And that’s precisely what went down last night.
Krapp is a POS. Same nonsense that we saw in the pre-season repeated now, when it counts.
Heard the bullKrapp excuse, he doesn’t want to ’show his hand’ in the pre-season.
Fk that noise. He’s got nothing to show, period.
Krapp is a waste of oxygen.
September 11th, 2012 at 7:34 am
has knapp been fired yet?
September 11th, 2012 at 7:35 am
Or maybe it wouldn’t have helped, but it was worth a shot.
September 11th, 2012 at 7:35 am
it was penetration more than the bad snaps that doomed us.
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That might be a bit of a stretch, being Shane couldn’t even handle one of them, and the other he needed to bobble just to corral it.
September 11th, 2012 at 7:36 am
Just win next week Raiders, we’ll go from there.
Later.
September 11th, 2012 at 7:36 am
Defense is improved but we need better CBs and a speedy pass rusher.
September 11th, 2012 at 7:36 am
Anytime DMAC has more targets then carries we are going to lose. DMAC is a running back not Wes Welker.
September 11th, 2012 at 7:37 am
exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 7:29 am
GG,
Hard to get Pryor involved when he is inactive.
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Yep I know, what I meant. Cant be involved if inactive. I bet even if he was active that we’d have seen the same thing…like how reece and ausberry etc were hardly utilized. Look, all up, Knapp is pathetic. It’s going to be incredibly frustrating from now till whenever DA/RM finally pull the plug on him…hope it’s very soon because the longer they delay the inevitable, the more ugly or frustrating losses we will endure.
September 11th, 2012 at 7:39 am
Mistakes, Mistakes , Mistakes!
We GAVE this game away withmistakes and a lack of execution…the Dink & Dunk is the norm until we get DMoore and Ford back to stretch the field, even though i’m not sure we’d throw it to them if they are open…
Liked seeing Burris flying around though.
September 11th, 2012 at 7:39 am
An edge pass-rusher has been lacking on this team for sometime.
We collapse the pocket well, but we don’t bring the heat off the edge, unless it is someone blitzing.
September 11th, 2012 at 7:40 am
#286 is completely right.
How many teams run a WCO or version of, yet you don’t see this issue of routes run shorter than the 1st down marker rear it’s head as much as it does in a Knapp offense.
September 11th, 2012 at 7:40 am
What’s up with Brian Robinksie? LEt go by the Jags…
September 11th, 2012 at 7:40 am
Where is BSJ? I want to know where to mail his Condo jersey to
September 11th, 2012 at 7:40 am
Watched the first series..glad I did’nt stay up to watch the rest.
September 11th, 2012 at 7:41 am
DA doesn’t sound like it’s any big deal that we lost. He doesn’t sound nearly as ticked as i’d hope.
“We did some good things”? How often do we hear that crap?
A loss is a loss and they add up fast…don’t tell me how good we are when I see different.
I don’t wanna be 0-4 and hear how “were making progress”.
Progress from consecutive 8-8 seasons means winning more games not getting better at institutuing some lame azz “play not to lose” offense.
September 11th, 2012 at 7:42 am
If we are looking to be as productive as our 2010 offense, through one game we have more points and yards than they did.
September 11th, 2012 at 7:43 am
For example, it’s pretty much the exact same system they’ve been using in Houston the last 2-3 years. You dont see the Texans suffering from this issue.
September 11th, 2012 at 7:44 am
I’m out. Catch up during the week. GRRR.
September 11th, 2012 at 7:45 am
Get an OC that doesn’t have his head jammed up his sphincter and you won’t have to worry about ’snaps’ as much.
I don’t think the snap for an extra-point is quite as difficult as one for a punt.
Unfortunately, with Greg Dirt Knapp running the O into the toilet we probably won’t be testing that theory any time soon.
Snap ?
I’m ready to fkng snap.
I’d like to snap Knapp’s neck.
I’ll settle for just canning his sorry azz.
September 11th, 2012 at 7:46 am
Davidon Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 7:40 am
Watched the first series..glad I did’nt stay up to watch the rest.
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NOT TRUE RAIDER FAN
September 11th, 2012 at 7:47 am
On a positive note I thought the D held up pretty well considering there back was against the wall on almost every SD possession. Still hurting on the back end. But not bad considering.
September 11th, 2012 at 7:47 am
The thing that suks is that we let bush go, we let murph and chaz go, but we replaced last years corners with what? A slow as spencer and an injury prone bartel….id take lito, cj and routt over these fools any day….al was always right speed kills
September 11th, 2012 at 7:48 am
DA needs to strip Knapp of all play calling duties and promote Al Saunders.
BTW….cut Condo!
September 11th, 2012 at 7:48 am
Get Al Saunders in there now. Should have made him OC for continuity. He at least knew what was working for the team last year and could build on it instead of having Knapp come in and tear it down. Knapp must go!
September 11th, 2012 at 7:49 am
I wonder if the Raider Nation on Twitter is ripping Knapp a new one?
September 11th, 2012 at 7:51 am
Raiders playing Money Ball. Just gonna have to deal with it until Al’s mess clears away. Raiders are playas on a budget.
September 11th, 2012 at 7:51 am
272.Just Fire Baby Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 7:20 am
Not sure why nobody else on the team can LS or even seems to care to try.
Condo needs to walk in the teams meeting on Wednesday, slap his paycheck on the white board (which should be twice as much as everyone else in the room) and tell everyone they should go practice rifling a few through their legs after practice.
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I don’t understand why they did not train or practice with another o-lineman how to long snap. Why not Parson’s or Wisniwski who is use to snapping the ball and than blocking. You try a LB at long snapping the ball? Where is the logic in that one?????
September 11th, 2012 at 7:51 am
Props to Streater for being a true team player. No spike of the ball on his first NFL TD. No emotion. He knew they were losing and didn’t make it about him.
September 11th, 2012 at 7:54 am
DA doesn’t sound like it’s any big deal that we lost. He doesn’t sound nearly as ticked as i’d hope.
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…and Hue Jackson got fired in large part because he ripped his team a new azzhole when the stunk it up in week 17.
September 11th, 2012 at 7:54 am
I am tired and grumpy….nothing like the Raiders to ruin my day.
fk sticks
Trade McFadden to a team that knows how to use him. Wasted talent like Randy Moss was when he was here. McFadden will not quit like Moss did, but he deserves to be on a better team.
I know Hue had to be put down like a rabid dog because his ego had exploded, but we didn’t have to dismantle last year’s offense, we could have kept that the same and just fixed the D.
DA made a major mistake in hiring Knapp and letting him talk us into the ZBS….this offense does not fit Palmer or McFadden.
September 11th, 2012 at 7:54 am
Props to Streater for being a true team player. No spike of the ball on his first NFL TD. No emotion. He knew they were losing and didn’t make it about him.
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On a similar note, it was very embarrassing to see some dilweed fans in the black hole mugging and smiling for the camera in the late 4th quarter when the stadium had half emptied out. There’s your Raider fan on display in front of the TV nation. Ridiculous.
September 11th, 2012 at 7:56 am
fire krappy already….dont wanna hear that bush bs “stay the course”
September 11th, 2012 at 7:56 am
You try a LB at long snapping the ball? Where is the logic in that one?????
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Are you not aware of what position Condo plays? Condo is a linebacker
September 11th, 2012 at 7:57 am
The org is way too conservative in the handling of personnel. DMo17 was practicing and looked good in media allowed session. Imagine if we had him in the starting lineup help spreading the CB’s out more. Holding him out was a mistake.
September 11th, 2012 at 7:58 am
wont watch tv or sports until next sat….effin suks
September 11th, 2012 at 7:59 am
It is amazing that the final score was only 22-14. The field position for the Chargers the whole game was perfect.
Defense did not play that bad with th eexception of bone head mistakes by Crack Head Kelly!!!
September 11th, 2012 at 7:59 am
zone defense….the fastest way to lose….
September 11th, 2012 at 8:00 am
Black hole fans mugging on Nat’l TV. “Look at me! I’m an idiot! My team is getting it’s butt kicked, and I’m grinning look a goofball in a monkey suit. Sweet! Did you get my good side? Go Raiders!”
September 11th, 2012 at 8:00 am
Tell you what’s most disturbing about this whole Krapp fiasco.
We’ve been there and done that before !
Once wasn’t enough with the POS ?
Enough to drive a fan insane.
Game 1 of 2012 flushed down the toilet by Greg Krapp.
Honorable mention to the half-azz ST coaches who were COMPLETELY unprepared in the event of Condo getting injured.
Tits Allen gets an F for his first game as HC, and more importantly, his decision to hire Krapp to begin with.
And Reggie, since you had veto power over the decision to hire Krapp – you’re on notice too.
September 11th, 2012 at 8:00 am
CJ Legend 34 Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 7:59 am
It is amazing that the final score was only 22-14. The field position for the Chargers the whole game was perfect.
Defense did not play that bad with th eexception of bone head mistakes by Crack Head Kelly!!!
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The defense deserves a medal for what they did.
September 11th, 2012 at 8:01 am
I used to joke that I don’t think the team gives our ST coach one of those security badges to get into the facility.
Now, I am not sure it is a joke. WTF are our guys doing out there?
Can’t fair catch a short punt, but will fair catch a long one at the 6 yard line. Seabass’s onside kick? Clear as day we never practice that. Our backup LS doesn’t even know how to long-snap? LMAO!! Can’t cover kickoffs or return them either.
September 11th, 2012 at 8:01 am
The Recap:
1) Get Tom Cable on the line! We need an OC
2) Need at least 1 WR, balls bouncing off everybody!
3) Where was Myers during the first 57 minutes of the game!!!?
4) Run D solid.
5) Pass Ruch, blah.
6) Someone other than Condo practice the long snap.
there we go, 15-1.
September 11th, 2012 at 8:01 am
lol at Reggie bothering to read a fan blog and worry about being “put on notice”. Nice one. lol
September 11th, 2012 at 8:02 am
DA made a major mistake in hiring Knapp and letting him talk us into the ZBS….this offense does not fit Palmer or McFadden.
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You could almost see McFadden thinking really???? Another underneath route!!!!
We had 45 yards rushing. You are so right on him not fitting into this offense.
Not to mention all the talk about having him last all season. How is that suppose to happen when he is getting the ball 20 times a game with his back to the defense?
September 11th, 2012 at 8:03 am
318.bcz24 Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 7:56 am
You try a LB at long snapping the ball? Where is the logic in that one?????
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Are you not aware of what position Condo plays? Condo is a linebacker
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I get you! But what I am saying is if you have not had time to practice years and years like Condo and you have a code red emergency. Why not put the ball in a players hand who is more use to snapping the ball between his legs like a CENTER!!!! Who cares if he can tackle if he can’t get the ball out the dirt!
September 11th, 2012 at 8:03 am
Please stop with the coaching complaints.
Some of you have been blaming coaches going back to Callahan. How many diiferent coaches do you want to try?
WAKE UP!!!!!
Our PLAYERS did not pressure Rivers.
Our PLAYERS did not snap the ball to our punter.
Our PLAYERS allowed Phillips to look like a Hall of Fame pass rusher.
Our PLAYERS dropped laterals.
Our PLAYERS jumped offsides.
Our PLAYERS committed pass interference.
Our PLAYERS fumbled the ball.
Please do not blame the coaches any more. We need better players. It will take time.
From here on out we will face bend but do not break defenses until our players EXECUTE BETTER. PLAYERS. PLAYERS!!!!!!!
September 11th, 2012 at 8:04 am
No doubt Reggie’s aware of exactly what went wrong and how to correct it.
No doubt DA’s reading Knapp the riot act about his playcalling.
No doubt Hoffman’s hearing it, too.
Relax, everyone. Five days from now is our “get well” game. We’ll be 1-1 with a much better idea of what needs additional tweaking and what doesn’t.
September 11th, 2012 at 8:05 am
One thing is for sure, Dmac did not look comfortable out there. Or am I seeing things?
September 11th, 2012 at 8:05 am
Just a terrible game. ALl the coaching staff should be ashamed of what they put on the field.
September 11th, 2012 at 8:05 am
Hoffman and Special Teams were the complete crap in preseason. What the hell is wrong? Hoffman has impressive resume. Is it because of all the new guys? I don’t know. WTF!
September 11th, 2012 at 8:06 am
RaiderDuck Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 8:00 am
CJ Legend 34 Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 7:59 am
It is amazing that the final score was only 22-14. The field position for the Chargers the whole game was perfect.
Defense did not play that bad with th eexception of bone head mistakes by Crack Head Kelly!!!
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The defense deserves a medal for what they did.
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You may want to raise your standards.
September 11th, 2012 at 8:06 am
Raiderbuck Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 8:05 am
Just a terrible game. ALl the coaching staff should be ashamed of what they put on the field.
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Disagree. The defensive coaching staff did quite well.
September 11th, 2012 at 8:06 am
I’ve been saying this warning all preseason long.
We don’t have any legit red zone receiving threats on this team. The TE’s are nonfactors, the WR’s inexperienced or not able. It’s DMC and a prayer.
I also predicted a ton of short FG opportunities. We will be one of the worst at scoring down low in the entire NFL if we don’t sign a legit red zone threat like Plaxico Burress. Or somebody. As it stands now, this is what you get for not being prepared.
September 11th, 2012 at 8:07 am
Raider O Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 8:06 am
RaiderDuck Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 8:00 am
CJ Legend 34 Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 7:59 am
It is amazing that the final score was only 22-14. The field position for the Chargers the whole game was perfect.
Defense did not play that bad with th eexception of bone head mistakes by Crack Head Kelly!!!
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The defense deserves a medal for what they did.
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You may want to raise your standards.
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Really? The SD offense had three straight possessions start already in field goal range, thanks to Goethel. The result? Three straight field goals. You can’t realistically ask for more from our D.
September 11th, 2012 at 8:08 am
Defense played very well. Gave up some passes to a very good QB. Chargers had great field position on most possessions. Only concern was lack of a pass rush.
September 11th, 2012 at 8:09 am
Can someone explain the onside kick at the end of the game? LOL, who drew that one up?
September 11th, 2012 at 8:09 am
Preseason doesn’t count!
It’s preseason!
Blah blah blah
So why are we having the same issues?
Some of you people are retarded!
September 11th, 2012 at 8:10 am
Where can I get a Hagan jersey? He did well for a short week of practice. Sad thing is he will be the first to get the AX if we need a player and our wide outs are healthy.
September 11th, 2012 at 8:10 am
The punt block is not on Goethel, its on Giordano, look at the replay.
September 11th, 2012 at 8:10 am
OK, let me try this…
Breathe in, breathe out.
Nice calm thoughts.
There you go.
Relax.
Ahhhhh. I feel much better now.
Old football adage – You’re rarely as good as you look in victory or as bad as you look in defeat.
Don’t overreact to a loss.
Arrrgggh. Screw it.
Ain’t no sense in sugar coating it.
Ain’t no sense in denying the obvious.
Gregory Krapp is going to torpedo the Raider ship and doom the 2012 season.
No, I’m not exaggerating.
September 11th, 2012 at 8:10 am
It’s frustrating knowing this season and last season we had a good football team that could win games. Only to have it derailed by horrible coaching. Bresnahan last year and Knapp this year
September 11th, 2012 at 8:10 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 8:05 am
Hoffman and Special Teams were the complete crap in preseason. What the hell is wrong? Hoffman has impressive resume. Is it because of all the new guys? I don’t know. WTF!
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Hoffman blows. Remember last year against KC when Condo figured out his (lack of) blocking scheme and we blocked two FGs?
September 11th, 2012 at 8:11 am
anyone else wonder why the lb didnt go for rivers arm when he threw the td pass to floyd?…i felt like he had a chance to create a fumble there…
September 11th, 2012 at 8:11 am
Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 8:10 am
The punt block is not on Goethel, its on Giordano, look at the replay.
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Did Gio miss the block or was he out of position. If he was out of position, that’s on the center — Goethel.
September 11th, 2012 at 8:12 am
341.Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 8:09 am
Can someone explain the onside kick at the end of the game? LOL, who drew that one up?
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Yeah. If it was Knapp drawing it up they would’ve kicked it deep.
September 11th, 2012 at 8:12 am
Get ready Miami. You too can fix what’s wrong when the Raider’s come to town.
September 11th, 2012 at 8:12 am
Goethel couldn’t snap a damnn, but the blocked punt did not come through his gap, Gio moved inside, didnt even see the kid that blocked the punt.
September 11th, 2012 at 8:13 am
Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 8:09 am
Can someone explain the onside kick at the end of the game? LOL, who drew that one up?
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The idea was to hit one of the front line guys for SD and have the ball bounce back to our guys. If you watch it again you can see the SD player jump over the ball
September 11th, 2012 at 8:13 am
333.morilla Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 8:05 am
One thing is for sure, Dmac did not look comfortable out there. Or am I seeing things?
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Hard to look comfortable when there are zero holes to run through or because defenders are on you before you even get the handoff. We know McFadden is a beast when used correctly….this offense does not suit him.
Good coaches tailor their offense around their best players….coaches like Knapp try and force their offense on players who do not fit.
All preseason Knapps’ offense looked weak. 1st game of the year it looks weak. His last time here it looked weak. Do some of you people get it yet? (not directed at you Morilla)
September 11th, 2012 at 8:14 am
Did Gio miss the block or was he out of position. If he was out of position, that’s on the center — Goethel.
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agreed. Goethel snapped a wobbly slow ball to Lechler and the velocity added just enough time for Lechler to be in trouble fast. It’s funny how the tiny mechanics of long snapping is so critical. That play is on Goethal. Not that we should continue to roast him. Clearly ST’s were unprepared.
September 11th, 2012 at 8:15 am
RaiderDuck Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 8:07 am
Raider O Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 8:06 am
RaiderDuck Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 8:00 am
CJ Legend 34 Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 7:59 am
It is amazing that the final score was only 22-14. The field position for the Chargers the whole game was perfect.
Defense did not play that bad with th eexception of bone head mistakes by Crack Head Kelly!!!
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The defense deserves a medal for what they did.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
You may want to raise your standards.
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Really? The SD offense had three straight possessions start already in field goal range, thanks to Goethel. The result? Three straight field goals. You can’t realistically ask for more from our D.
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Yes, really!
Philip rivers was 24/33, 1TD, 1sack, completed 70+% if his passes, and had a 102+ QB rating. That’s their best weapon on offense, and he played well.
How did our best weapon on offense do.
Like I said, raise your standards.
September 11th, 2012 at 8:15 am
The idea was to hit one of the front line guys for SD and have the ball bounce back to our guys. If you watch it again you can see the SD player jump over the ball.
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But why the ball on the gound? should have teed it and blown a canon ball at someone’s chest. how the hell are you going to hit the ball solid if its on the friggin ground?
September 11th, 2012 at 8:15 am
Anyone see the smirk on Norv’s face. At times he looked like he was about to laugh.
September 11th, 2012 at 8:16 am
332.RaiderDuck Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 8:04 am
No doubt Reggie’s aware of exactly what went wrong and how to correct it.
No doubt DA’s reading Knapp the riot act about his playcalling.
No doubt Hoffman’s hearing it, too.
Relax, everyone. Five days from now is our “get well” game. We’ll be 1-1 with a much better idea of what needs additional tweaking and what doesn’t.
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I have no reason to believe we’ll be 1-1 this time next week.
I have seen nothing to suggest that we will magically get better on offense and score td’s.
To win, you have to outscore your opponent.
Of course I HOPE we win Sunday but traditionally we never beat Miami..at home or especially on the road.
September 11th, 2012 at 8:17 am
Anyone see the smirk on Norv’s face. At times he looked like he was about to laugh.
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Can you blame him? We looked like a chinese fire drill on special teams.
September 11th, 2012 at 8:17 am
I am fairly certain that some of you did not watch the game!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The defense actually played well except they did not generate a pass rush. SD line and the UDFA played way better than expected. The secondary except for couple of plays actually played well. Rivers was dealing and when he plays that well we usually give up 30+ points although they do not have VJ anymore. I can not believe someone actually said bring in Routt, CJ and Lito (that is insane).
One person said the Raiders have not been that incompetent on offense since 2007. Hey did you guys see the KC or Maimi game last year!!! If you look at who we had starting at WR and TE Sid Giman or Bill Walsh would have issues!!! I mean you are working with a cut FA you picked up on Thursday as your thrid receiver and an UDFA as a starter. Honestly, our TE’s may not even make the roster on other teams. It was also disturbing that Reese was not really in sync maybe because he held back until he had a contract.
Our problem is two fold 1. Our special teams coach (not Knapp should be fired for having such an upprepared reserve as a long-snapper). 2. The Raiders have to have at least average WR’s and TE’s if they are going to be a top 15 offense. In spite of these issues the offense still out gained the Chargers. People always get enamored with their players but we do not have the personal on offense outside of McFadden and Palmer at the skill postions to really get something going. Not having Bush hurt! Look how the Bears used him in week 1 with Forte it really creates problems with defenses when you have to prepare for two backs with varying styles. With what we had at WR and TE they could dedicate a person to MFAD and DHB and then zone out the rest! We need more weapons.
September 11th, 2012 at 8:17 am
358.exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 8:15 am
Anyone see the smirk on Norv’s face. At times he looked like he was about to laugh.
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I think everyone outside of the Raider nation was laughing at us last night.
Sure we might beat Miami, but then we have Pitt and Denver. A 1-3 start and the season is finished.
September 11th, 2012 at 8:18 am
Re Knapp. Owe had an 8 play drive for 29 yards and a punt. 8 plays 29 yards! LOL, Al would have belted Knapp in the locker room.
September 11th, 2012 at 8:20 am
358.exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 8:15 am
Anyone see the smirk on Norv’s face. At times he looked like he was about to laugh.
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Yeah. Right now we’re back to the bungling, bumbling Raiders of 2009. The 8-8 teams of the past two yrs. look much better than this team.
We’re to being a joke and a laughingstock.
As mad as I was at Rich Gannon ranking us 26th in the power rankings…he was right. In fact, we are worse.
I have no faith whatsoever in this new regime right now at this moment.
That could change of course, but from where I sit RIGHT NOW…this team is as bad as Art Shell part deaux.
Defense looks to be a bit better, but losing is losing…
September 11th, 2012 at 8:21 am
1. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 8:15 am
The idea was to hit one of the front line guys for SD and have the ball bounce back to our guys. If you watch it again you can see the SD player jump over the ball.
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But why the ball on the gound? should have teed it and blown a canon ball at someone’s chest. how the hell are you going to hit the ball solid if its on the friggin ground?
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Low line drive. Just a good play by SD. Most guys arnt quick enough to get out of the way. I don’t like how they did it either. That’s just what they were trying to do.
September 11th, 2012 at 8:21 am
We need more weapons.
yep
September 11th, 2012 at 8:22 am
Pretty sure it’s been said.. But…
LONG SNAPPER’S ARE IMPORTANT!!!!!!!!!!
So please shut all the cut Condo crap.
September 11th, 2012 at 8:22 am
Yeah the bed and breakfast offense is actually looking pretty good right now. 17-step dropbacks and deep balls to Alvis Whitted
September 11th, 2012 at 8:22 am
what?
September 11th, 2012 at 8:23 am
I beleive everybody here owes me $50.00.I’ll take that now.
September 11th, 2012 at 8:23 am
Yeah, yeah. The offese suxs, we dont have receivers, need a TE and a backup long snaper, perhaps a return man, and a backup RB….tell you what, if the D plays like that all year we will be in every game, and might make the playoffs. look at Pitt, Baltimore, SF, built on solid D. Did our LBs look awesome or what?
September 11th, 2012 at 8:24 am
canadianraider Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 8:11 am
anyone else wonder why the lb didnt go for rivers arm when he threw the td pass to floyd?…i felt like he had a chance to create a fumble there…
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Rivers stepped up perfectly, Tollefson was at a bad angle after that..
September 11th, 2012 at 8:24 am
Got to have Moore and Ford out there. DHB can’t carry the load, he is what he is, and Streeter and Hagan are possession types.
Offensive line is a disappointment through week 1. They look bad in run blocking. Barnes is another holdover that is going to take time to replace.
Houston runs the same offense with Schaub, Foster, Johnson and Daniels. No reason why the Raiders can’t look like that soon. If CP, DMAC,DHB, Moore and Myers can’t run it they will be replaced.
RAiders will win next week. 31 – 13. Offense gets back on track and penalties come to a hault
September 11th, 2012 at 8:25 am
362.Dakota Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 8:17 am
358.exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 8:15 am
Anyone see the smirk on Norv’s face. At times he looked like he was about to laugh.
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I think everyone outside of the Raider nation was laughing at us last night.
Sure we might beat Miami, but then we have Pitt and Denver. A 1-3 start and the season is finished.
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I fear you’ll see a bumbling, bungling offense again with DMAC running around backwards and a defense too tired and taxed to hold on forever.
Gregg Knapps offense is a joke. Worst decision DA could possibly make.
September 11th, 2012 at 8:25 am
neilb Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 5:22 am
Been watching this game for over 30 years – never heard of an injury to a long snapper before.
BSJ must be going nuts.
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Well I have, thats why I’ve been #1 defender of Condo against BSJ…
try look up, Mike Bartrum…
September 11th, 2012 at 8:26 am
Reggie’s bottom lip says “sheeeeeeeeeet dat worked in Green Bay sheeeeeeeet drip drip drip”
September 11th, 2012 at 8:26 am
Turducken Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 8:22 am
Yeah the bed and breakfast offense is actually looking pretty good right now. 17-step dropbacks and deep balls to Alvis Whitted
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That is an idiotic post!!!! That was the worst offense in NFL history. Last night on the first real deployment of this offense system we outgained the Chargers with a cut FA wR and and UDFA WR starting week one because of injuries. Our TE’s would actually not make rosters and many other teams. Houston Runs this same offense. No one in their right mind runs the B and B offense besides the Raides since the 1970’s and the advent of zone blitzing.
September 11th, 2012 at 8:27 am
Say goodby to Knapp now,will be folding the teams laundry by week 7.
September 11th, 2012 at 8:28 am
Is there a fireGregKnappnow.com website up yet?
Can we get a white billboard over I-880 with just the website name up for signatures. Somebody please step up locally and work this.
September 11th, 2012 at 8:29 am
Run D was good, but SD’s o-line is not exactly supposed to be good, and their best RB didn’t play….Brown is ancient.
Pass D was okay, but not good. Almost zero pass rush.
I think we ran up against an offense that isn’t very good….Manning or Ben would have dropped 40 on us last night.
September 11th, 2012 at 8:29 am
guest123 Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 8:28 am
Is there a fireGregKnappnow.com website up yet?
Can we get a white billboard over I-880 with just the website name up for signatures. Somebody please step up locally and work this.
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is there a cut the rest of Als draft picks?
September 11th, 2012 at 8:29 am
At least we didn’t get smoked like Cinci. last night. If we had Wimbly he wouldn’t of made a difference, if we had routte, he wouldn’t of made a difference. Gawd damn I do miss our lock down cb NAMDI he would of put a cherry on top of this defense, time to activate chekwa since bartell got hurt already.
September 11th, 2012 at 8:29 am
The def started off VERY nice. After that long pass got completed they were never the same.
G Knapp, WTF
September 11th, 2012 at 8:30 am
Taiwan Jones, probably one of the stupidest players in NFL..
September 11th, 2012 at 8:30 am
It didnt take all the experts in here long to change their tune to “this offense sucks”.Did it. Reggie sucks,Allen sucks.
September 11th, 2012 at 8:30 am
1st and goal and we have no reliable TE for Palmer to go to. Move Reece there ASAP!
September 11th, 2012 at 8:31 am
Taiwan Jones, probably one of the stupidest players in NFL..
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nope. TK is stupider.
September 11th, 2012 at 8:32 am
Someone tell Knapp this aint Houston and #80 is not Andre Johnson… Man, Knapp must be a real schmoozer to get another shot at OC, first time was a disaster, even Gorilla Cable out played-called him.
September 11th, 2012 at 8:32 am
1960AutumnWind Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 8:26 am
Turducken Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 8:22 am
Yeah the bed and breakfast offense is actually looking pretty good right now. 17-step dropbacks and deep balls to Alvis Whitted
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That is an idiotic post!!!! That was the worst offense in NFL history. Last night on the first real deployment of this offense system we outgained the Chargers with a cut FA wR and and UDFA WR starting week one because of injuries. Our TE’s would actually not make rosters and many other teams. Houston Runs this same offense. No one in their right mind runs the B and B offense besides the Raides since the 1970’s and the advent of zone blitzing.
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its called sarcasm. obviously we need better weapons on the field. Moore woulda helped. But why didn’t we try any of those counter traps that McFasty gained 15 yds on in the preseason? those were good running plays
September 11th, 2012 at 8:32 am
Carson Palmer better get in DA’s and Knapps face about this lame azz offense.
He’s getting older and doesn’t have many seasons left. He talks about “winning” being the most important thing. He says he realizes he has alot of pressure to get this team winning.
With this stupid azz offense…the “Let’s play not to lose even if were down 2 td’s” offense, wins will NOT come.
You have to actually score pts. to win games. I don’t see ANY INDICATION that we will.
We can talk about this and that but my eyes nothing but pathetic lameness..and we are 0-1 becuz of it.
C’mon. An offense that gets a stud rb like DMAC 32 yds. on 15 carries?
September 11th, 2012 at 8:32 am
Well hopefully Reggie’s looking at picking up a free agent TE now that salaries are no longer guaranteed. Hope the wait to save a few quarters, nickels and dimes was worth it.
September 11th, 2012 at 8:33 am
Istrong defense will get this team into playoffs. Teams like Pittsburgh, baltimore, chicago, Denver and San Fran were able to get playoff berths through strong defense and a conservative offense.
Strong D will stop those soul crushing blowouts we’ve be subjected to over last 10 yrs. Defense will keep games close into 4th QTR. If D keeps this up, Raiders will challenge division.
Just need to adjust on offense and get receivers in the game and the o-line attacking.
Ill take strong D and avg O over the B.S I’ve seen this past decade. Also, start BENCHING guys like Kelly and the special team guy with personal foul for dumb penalties and miscues. Start looking for help for Barnes.
September 11th, 2012 at 8:33 am
Oakofshow must be Sullivan’s new anger puppet.
September 11th, 2012 at 8:33 am
Paul G. said it last night.Messed with an offense that didnt need to be messed with. Just like I told all yall!
September 11th, 2012 at 8:33 am
I’d imagine if you had Super Bowl asperations this season you are pretty floored right now.
I didnt, and im not shocked at the game.
September 11th, 2012 at 8:34 am
Also, Jacoby Ford not being at the game is VERY strange.
Did he have a secret surgery??
Beef with Allen??
September 11th, 2012 at 8:34 am
Shut up Klas,you are one of those idiots.Dont unpack,go home.Not welcome tresspasser.
September 11th, 2012 at 8:36 am
Keys to success:
1-Cross train new long-snapper
2-Put Knapp on plane to Cambodia
3-DA slap TK around a few times
4-Find a way to Rush the passer
5-Get Pryor involved!
September 11th, 2012 at 8:36 am
Barksdale
Nix
Adams
All 3 are cut candidates to bring a Vet in..
September 11th, 2012 at 8:37 am
oakfoshow Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 8:30 am
It didnt take all the experts in here long to change their tune to “this offense sucks”.Did it. Reggie sucks,Allen sucks.
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No tune changing…. Oak you did not predict muffed punts and even with all those problems they were still in the game. Bottom line like I said I have always been worried about our lack of depth and injuries. It bit us last night with WR play. One of the reasons CP3 checked down so much is the WRs were not open. Taht was alluded to a few times. Unfortunately BSPN does such a bad job of covering the game they did not show the coverages. When CP3 tried to throw to DHB though I noticed two guys always covering and noticed that single coverage was sufficient for Hagen and Streeter for the most part. I think a DE could cover our TE.
One thing is for sure, I had no idea that our 2nd string long snapper was so bad. Also I do not owe you $50 either. I also was suprised at our lack of pass rush with Gaiter out. Bottom line not so surprised that our offesne was not really that good with 2/3 of top WRs missing and the TE’s we have. With that poor of TE play we really need our best WRs
September 11th, 2012 at 8:37 am
Streater 19 catches in college. 4 critical drops in the NFL.Better then Murphy? AAAAAAAA HAAAAAAAA,buncha freekin morons around here.
September 11th, 2012 at 8:37 am
Oakfoshow Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 8:34 am
Shut up Klas,you are one of those idiots.Dont unpack,go home.Not welcome tresspasser.
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You are dumb ass negro.
September 11th, 2012 at 8:37 am
Dangit, it’s about WINNING…NOT getting more yds. than your opponent. Who freaking cares if we outgained SD. We LOST…badly…PERIOD!
If Reggie and DA are so stupid that they don’t see this Knapp offense is a pathetic joke than this org is in deep trouble.
As the losses pile up we’ll continue to hear how much progress we’re making and Knapp will continue to draw up 3 yd. pass plays to receivers who have guys draped all over them on 3rd and 9 an DA will tell us how good we truly are and how many positives we can take away from these embarrassing losses.
September 11th, 2012 at 8:37 am
Gotta think Andre Carter is on line 1, if healthy.
Cooley, at this point, looks like he is needed also.
September 11th, 2012 at 8:40 am
DJ Johnny Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 8:37 am
Dangit, it’s about WINNING…NOT getting more yds. than your opponent. Who freaking cares if we outgained SD. We LOST…badly…PERIOD!
If Reggie and DA are so stupid that they don’t see this Knapp offense is a pathetic joke than this org is in deep trouble.
As the losses pile up we’ll continue to hear how much progress we’re making and Knapp will continue to draw up 3 yd. pass plays to receivers who have guys draped all over them on 3rd and 9 an DA will tell us how good we truly are and how many positives we can take away from these embarrassing losses.
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No kidding man, let Saunders call the plays and give Knapp the boot, or we may be in for a long season..
September 11th, 2012 at 8:40 am
#400. covering up already.Longsnapper my A$$! 2 yards a carrie in this ZONEBLOCKING sceme that dowsnt work with this personale.
September 11th, 2012 at 8:40 am
Steve Slaton, would love to bring him in.
September 11th, 2012 at 8:41 am
The #7 overall receiver, taken over a pro-bowl DT needs to show his freekn worth. He’s SUPPOSED to be as good as a Dez Bryant or AJ Green. DHB needs to shine or else its time for him to kick rocks. Too many games as a non factor.
September 11th, 2012 at 8:42 am
402 I was right,you were wrong.Expect nothing less from a tresspasser.
September 11th, 2012 at 8:42 am
La Milicia Negra Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 8:29 am
guest123 Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 8:28 am
Is there a fireGregKnappnow.com website up yet?
Can we get a white billboard over I-880 with just the website name up for signatures. Somebody please step up locally and work this.
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is there a cut the rest of Als draft picks?
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Great idea!
Let’s cut DMAC, Moore, DHB, Ford, Veldheer, Wiz, McClain, Houston, Huff, etc…
September 11th, 2012 at 8:42 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 8:34 am
Also, Jacoby Ford not being at the game is VERY strange.
Did he have a secret surgery??
Beef with Allen??
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you of all people turning to speculation, and conspiracy theory’s?
JFORD was not seen at the game. Could he have possible been in the locker room???
September 11th, 2012 at 8:42 am
why didn’t we run the ball? its called COMMITMENT to the run for a reason
September 11th, 2012 at 8:42 am
sighn Plaxico.
September 11th, 2012 at 8:43 am
krapp blows. In the first half, on first downs, he called pass plays over run plays 11 to 3
September 11th, 2012 at 8:43 am
412 2 yards a carrie is why. Jeeez another one.
September 11th, 2012 at 8:44 am
Im not THAT guy, but…..BUT…
If we are going to be check down city…
Playaction…roll outs….
Umm..
Couldnt Pryor do that?……Better?….
September 11th, 2012 at 8:44 am
All you guys that said the LMURPHY trade was good, should be thinking again.
LMURPHY HAD NFL EXPERIENCE.
September 11th, 2012 at 8:44 am
[...] Plenty of blame to go around in Raiders loss – Surrounded by the Oakland … [...]
September 11th, 2012 at 8:45 am
Streater,Crinor,Hagen< Murphy. Nice move drippy lip. DUHHHHH
September 11th, 2012 at 8:46 am
Oh but Hue Jackson is a joke and we needed to clean house of guys like that.
Guys that put together top 10 offenses that actually score???
This “New Era” has started off with a resounding THUD.
As the losses, jokes and embarrassment pile up you will hear how we “are on the right track” but always remember that this was NOT an expansion team and don’t believe it when they tell you it was such a total mess that it’s gonna take all this time to “fix”.
We were 8-8 2 yrs. in a row with a young team…NOT 3-13.
September 11th, 2012 at 8:46 am
Thec Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 8:42 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 8:34 am
Also, Jacoby Ford not being at the game is VERY strange.
Did he have a secret surgery??
Beef with Allen??
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you of all people turning to speculation, and conspiracy theory’s?
JFORD was not seen at the game. Could he have possible been in the locker room???
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Wouldnt make sense..
He has been seen walking to the practices.. So he can stand.
So on gameday he’s not on the sideline??
Suggs was on the sideline for Baltimore..
Aaron Curry was on our sideline….
September 11th, 2012 at 8:46 am
Murphy trade was good. We don’t need him when healthy. Murph will be injured this year too.
September 11th, 2012 at 8:46 am
DJ Johnny Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 8:37 am
Dangit, it’s about WINNING…NOT getting more yds. than your opponent. Who freaking cares if we outgained SD. We LOST…badly…PERIOD!
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DJ
Looking at things like yards matters because you understand WHY YOU LOST. In this case we lost because of poor ST play and honestly our WR’s were not getting open (aka so many check downs). It matters because it looks like we might have better run defense this year and it is concerning that we only had one sack! If you want to get better you have to disect why you lost and go from there. Simply crying out to fire Knapp is not going to make it all better! We need to look at the real issues impacting this team. Positive things we can do is 1. Fire our 2nd string LS and get a FA that can snap and do other things it is not like Goethel is that valuable. (Remember this and sack the ST coach at seasons end) 2. Check avialble FAs for best TE available. 3. Hope and pray that Moore and Ford come back and if not look at best available WRs. 4. In light of Bartell consider looking around for another DB or bring back Checkwa. 5. Most of all put loss behind you and focus on beating Maimi. Remember Oakland sucked way worse than this when they played Maimi last year and they sucked even worse when they played KC at home last year. They still almost made the playoff in spite of all that.
September 11th, 2012 at 8:46 am
I’ll take that $50.00 now.
September 11th, 2012 at 8:47 am
MURPHY WANTED TO BE TRADED!!!!
HE WAS UNHAPPY HERE.
OK??!?!!
Move on.
September 11th, 2012 at 8:47 am
Thought Criner should have been in game last night. Could have used him in red zone.
September 11th, 2012 at 8:47 am
#422 still a moron. You foreiners never learn do ya?
September 11th, 2012 at 8:48 am
Oakfoshow Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 8:46 am
I’ll take that $50.00 now.
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You can take $50 and shove it up your ass biotch.
September 11th, 2012 at 8:48 am
425. no he was fine. Reggies just an idiot.
September 11th, 2012 at 8:49 am
Oak, this foreigner could kick yo ass any day biotch.
September 11th, 2012 at 8:49 am
DA and hoffman get an F for preparation, and attention to detail.
Contrary to BSJ’s and other;s comments regarding JCONDO, we see how important he is now.
We should have had someone practicing long snaps as a backup.
This should have been on the check list of things needed, contingency prep.
Coaching staff dropped the ball.
September 11th, 2012 at 8:49 am
go home yet?
September 11th, 2012 at 8:49 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 8:46 am
Murphy trade was good. We don’t need him when healthy. Murph will be injured this year too.
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Agreed! BTW how did Murphy do with Cam in their loss to TB??? Just wondering? I did not see him on the highlights and actually watched a lot of that game and did not see him. Murphy at this point in his carreer with his talent level was not the answer.
September 11th, 2012 at 8:50 am
Pass Rush is #1 priority.
Period.
September 11th, 2012 at 8:50 am
I think most folks agree Murphy didn’t WANT to be a Raider!! DAV said it best in post 425, move on!
September 11th, 2012 at 8:51 am
Any talk of “we’ll be fine” and “we’ll take care of Miami” is all based on nothing short of blind hope..not on anything else.
We have been given no visual evidence that this team can beat ANYBODY…
I’m sure were gonna win some games this yr….I hope at least, but I have seen NOTHING with my own eyes that tells me we can win a football game. Like I said, i’m sure we will, but right now from where I sit it’s hard to imagine us scoring more pts. than ANYBODY.
I guess I too have blind hope that it will happen a few times this yr.
September 11th, 2012 at 8:51 am
You cant woop shirt little tresspasser.
September 11th, 2012 at 8:52 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 8:47 am
MURPHY WANTED TO BE TRADED!!!!
HE WAS UNHAPPY HERE.
OK??!?!!
Move on.
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Based on what? the prospect of not getting any PT, or being pushed down the depth chart?
He was a vet, with NFL experience. Bad move in my opinion.
Learning experience for the org.
September 11th, 2012 at 8:52 am
And Rolando McClain.
Balled out.
*Salute*
September 11th, 2012 at 8:52 am
Thec Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 8:49 am
DA and hoffman get an F for preparation, and attention to detail.
Contrary to BSJ’s and other;s comments regarding JCONDO, we see how important he is now.
We should have had someone practicing long snaps as a backup.
This should have been on the check list of things needed, contingency prep.
Coaching staff dropped the ball.
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Yep, epic failure not having a back-up long snapper, probably cost the game last night..
September 11th, 2012 at 8:53 am
So now you’re going to tell me Louis Murphy can long-snap, block the DE, play TE, and play call? That Murphy is a darned nugget!
September 11th, 2012 at 8:53 am
#435 Most folks? Most folks on here are retarded including you and Dave.
September 11th, 2012 at 8:54 am
1960AutumnWind Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 8:49 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 8:46 am
Murphy trade was good. We don’t need him when healthy. Murph will be injured this year too.
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Agreed! BTW how did Murphy do with Cam in their loss to TB??? Just wondering? I did not see him on the highlights and actually watched a lot of that game and did not see him. Murphy at this point in his carreer with his talent level was not the answer.
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100% speculation.
LMURPHY 3-63yrds
September 11th, 2012 at 8:54 am
Thec Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 8:52 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 8:47 am
MURPHY WANTED TO BE TRADED!!!!
HE WAS UNHAPPY HERE.
OK??!?!!
Move on.
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Based on what? the prospect of not getting any PT, or being pushed down the depth chart?
He was a vet, with NFL experience. Bad move in my opinion.
Learning experience for the org.
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Yea.
He knew he was going to see his little play time decreased with the youngsters coming in. Wasnt happy.
People forget there was speculation he would be outright cut..
September 11th, 2012 at 8:54 am
Murphy can play wide receiver.Now shut up son.
September 11th, 2012 at 8:54 am
Oakofshow, how is weather in Sacramento?
September 11th, 2012 at 8:54 am
oakfoshow Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 8:53 am
#435 Most folks? Most folks on here are retarded including you and Dave.
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Too funny, coming from a weasel that everyone knows is about 15 years old. Eat a D1ck!
September 11th, 2012 at 8:55 am
Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 8:53 am
So now you’re going to tell me Louis Murphy can long-snap, block the DE, play TE, and play call? That Murphy is a darned nugget!
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You forgot the most important one, rush the passer.
September 11th, 2012 at 8:55 am
DJ Johnny Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 8:51 am
Any talk of “we’ll be fine” and “we’ll take care of Miami” is all based on nothing short of blind hope..not on anything else.
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Did you watch any of the Maimi game??? I assure you they looked far worse than the Raiders in all phases and their QB look tennative. Even though Raiders have not traditionally done well on that trip in past I think they are angry and will be focused and take it out on them (especially on defense). Raiders win 20-3.
September 11th, 2012 at 8:55 am
Dakota Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 8:13 am
333.morilla Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 8:05 am
One thing is for sure, Dmac did not look comfortable out there. Or am I seeing things?
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Hard to look comfortable when there are zero holes to run through or because defenders are on you before you even get the handoff. We know McFadden is a beast when used correctly….this offense does not suit him.
Good coaches tailor their offense around their best players….coaches like Knapp try and force their offense on players who do not fit.
All preseason Knapps’ offense looked weak. 1st game of the year it looks weak. His last time here it looked weak. Do some of you people get it yet? (not directed at you Morilla)
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Yeah, I agree. Dmac isn’t the type to have to take that split second and wait for the line to get into it’s zone then make his decision. He is a get the ball and go type of guy. ZBS is for specific type of runners. He looked out of sorts last night.
September 11th, 2012 at 8:55 am
I told you guys weeks and months ago, the BEST thing RM did was retain ASAUNDERS…
September 11th, 2012 at 8:55 am
he was cut b/c he was a 25-yr old cruising around with boner pills
September 11th, 2012 at 8:55 am
*traded
September 11th, 2012 at 8:56 am
Just admit you were all wrong and give me my fkn money.
September 11th, 2012 at 8:56 am
Mike Mitchell played 0 defensive snaps.
0..
Why is he on the team? Special Teams?..
September 11th, 2012 at 8:57 am
Murphy aint a Raider, now shut up daughter.
September 11th, 2012 at 8:57 am
Tx, how are you on this terrible morning? Klas feels like run over by snow mobile.
September 11th, 2012 at 8:57 am
447 15 yeard old was right,you and the tards made complete idiots out of themselves.
September 11th, 2012 at 8:57 am
oakfoshow Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 8:56 am
Just admit you were all wrong and give me my fkn money.
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If you ever learned to type or speak proper English, you might land a job, douchebag. Then maybe you wouldn’t need 50 bucks so bad.
September 11th, 2012 at 8:57 am
ea.
He knew he was going to see his little play time decreased with the youngsters coming in. Wasnt happy.
People forget there was speculation he would be outright cut..
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Speculation from whom???
Listen we can keep going in circles however, LMURPHY was a vet in this org, and had NFL experience.
NOTHING you or anyone else can say how he was treated, was good for this team.
September 11th, 2012 at 8:58 am
Criner played 2 snaps.
We rotated 3 WRs..
So their inability to get open, for the most part, could have been fatigue..
September 11th, 2012 at 8:58 am
TxRaider210 Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 8:54 am
oakfoshow Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 8:53 am
#435 Most folks? Most folks on here are retarded including you and Dave.
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Too funny, coming from a weasel that everyone knows is about 15 years old. Eat a D1ck!
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It is the truth. Oakofshow is Official Blog Dick Eater
September 11th, 2012 at 8:59 am
Klass feel like go home on big plane,no come back.
September 11th, 2012 at 8:59 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 8:57 am
Tx, how are you on this terrible morning? Klas feels like run over by snow mobile.
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Not feeling good about the the loss bro, but they will bounce back and beat Miami. DA needs to make some changes, hope he handles it right..
September 11th, 2012 at 8:59 am
Oakfoshow was correct.
September 11th, 2012 at 9:00 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 8:58 am
Criner played 2 snaps.
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Limited reps, and packages due to ankle injury.
September 11th, 2012 at 9:00 am
Oakfoshow Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 8:59 am
Oakfoshow was correct.
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Oakofshow likes to teat the dick.
September 11th, 2012 at 9:00 am
TxRaider210 Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 8:54 am
oakfoshow Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 8:53 am
#435 Most folks? Most folks on here are retarded including you and Dave.
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Too funny, coming from a weasel that everyone knows is about 15 years old. Eat a D1ck!
$$$$$$$$$$$
He is not a weasel. He is a Thuggish Ruggish gangsta from Compton.
September 11th, 2012 at 9:01 am
Oak, what is your favorite flavor of dick?
September 11th, 2012 at 9:01 am
oakfoshow Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 8:59 am
Oakfoshow was correct.
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You want a lil pat on the head, puppy dog? Maybe a Snausage?
September 11th, 2012 at 9:01 am
He is not a weasel. He is a Thuggish Ruggish gangsta from Compton.
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He is gangsta who likes to eat dick.
September 11th, 2012 at 9:02 am
Oakofshow needs his $50 so he can get some dicks to eat.
September 11th, 2012 at 9:02 am
Raider O Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 9:00 am
TxRaider210 Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 8:54 am
oakfoshow Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 8:53 am
#435 Most folks? Most folks on here are retarded including you and Dave.
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Too funny, coming from a weasel that everyone knows is about 15 years old. Eat a D1ck!
$$$$$$$$$$$
He is not a weasel. He is a Thuggish Ruggish gangsta from Compton.
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That explains the Ebonics and complete retardedness!
September 11th, 2012 at 9:03 am
#461 No,their inability to get open was that they are a rookie 5th round pick and an undrafted rookie who had 19, I SAY 19 catches in college and critical drops in the real game. Murphy a real receiver.Oakland staff a bunch of idiots.”I wanted my guy,duuhhhh drip”
September 11th, 2012 at 9:03 am
I believe it’s Allen who needs to get in both Palmer and Krapp’s face. Show me something under that visor DA.
I’ve never liked fatso Rat-to, but he posted this two-year old gem about Goethel.
Goethel claimed to be satisfied with the team’s decision, saying it was far better than being asked to switch to car dealer, casino greeter, or long snapper.
http://www.theonion.com/articles/player-drafted-at-linebacker-to-start-at-realtor,17356/
September 11th, 2012 at 9:03 am
451. Agree with you…Dennis Allen needs to take the clipboard away from Dirt Knapp and give it to Saunders.
September 11th, 2012 at 9:04 am
Thec Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 9:00 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 8:58 am
Criner played 2 snaps.
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Limited reps, and packages due to ankle injury.
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True, but he practiced and played all off-season up until last week.
Was full speed in pre-game drills.
September 11th, 2012 at 9:04 am
473 you both owe me a fifty.pay up losers
September 11th, 2012 at 9:04 am
Oakfoshow Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 8:45 am
Streater,Crinor,Hagen< Murphy. Nice move drippy lip. DUHHHHH
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You realize that Hagen and Streater EACH had more catches than your precious Murphy?
"People" like you are why abortion should always be legal.
September 11th, 2012 at 9:04 am
I am really disappointed in matt shaughnessy he went against a rookie all night and got spanked!
September 11th, 2012 at 9:05 am
DJ Johnny Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 8:51 am
Any talk of “we’ll be fine” and “we’ll take care of Miami” is all based on nothing short of blind hope..not on anything else.
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disagree 100%
The D played good, only thing we could have usage is a little more pressure however, the most important thing yesterday was FIELD POSITION.
The D held the disc, a very high powered offense to 1 TD.
Gave up 32 yards rushing.
Gave up under 300 yards of total offense.
The D is much improved, so based on that alone i like our chances.
September 11th, 2012 at 9:05 am
Klas is grumpy today. Has no more time for ebonics speaking gangsta who likes to eat the dick.
September 11th, 2012 at 9:06 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 9:04 am
I am really disappointed in matt shaughnessy he went against a rookie all night and got spanked!
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I was too, but I think we may have put too much stock in his ability.. Maybe?
He’s solid, but Pass Rush just might not be his strong suit…
Rust?.. IDK..
September 11th, 2012 at 9:07 am
The run D was great last night and the secondary looked pretty good with Bartell in there (I know he got burned deep) but once he was out it seemed like it was easier for Rivers to throw on us.
September 11th, 2012 at 9:07 am
TxRaider210 Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 9:02 am
Raider O Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 9:00 am
TxRaider210 Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 8:54 am
oakfoshow Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 8:53 am
#435 Most folks? Most folks on here are retarded including you and Dave.
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Too funny, coming from a weasel that everyone knows is about 15 years old. Eat a D1ck!
$$$$$$$$$$$
He is not a weasel. He is a Thuggish Ruggish gangsta from Compton.
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That explains the Ebonics and complete retardedness!
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Oakfoshow is not a gangster, and is most certainly not from Compton.
He’s a lily-white teenager from Toledo, Ohio who wears footie pajamas and pleasures himself to old Dr Dre CDs. His life’s passion is give a rimjob to Snoop.
September 11th, 2012 at 9:08 am
#475 Allen is dumber then both of them,hes the jerky who changed our top 10 offense to what we all saw last night.Knew it was gnna happen when I heard we were going with zone blocking and west coast. Take that fifty now.
September 11th, 2012 at 9:08 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 9:04 am
Thec Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 9:00 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 8:58 am
Criner played 2 snaps.
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Limited reps, and packages due to ankle injury.
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True, but he practiced and played all off-season up until last week.
Was full speed in pre-game drills.
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But was he apart of the game plan. DA said JCRINER, got limited reps, and limited packages based on his injury.
Full speed means in pre game means nada, if he was not part of the schematic design to beat the disc.
September 11th, 2012 at 9:08 am
Shonasty got only sack of game.
September 11th, 2012 at 9:08 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 9:05 am
Klas is grumpy today. Has no more time for ebonics speaking gangsta who likes to eat the dick.
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Then tries to fabricate a story about how everyone owes him money..lmao
September 11th, 2012 at 9:09 am
395.DennisAllensVisor Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 8:33 am
I’d imagine if you had Super Bowl asperations this season you are pretty floored right now.
I didnt, and im not shocked at the game.
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I had hopes of competing for the Division. That is not happening unless things change in a hurry. Al Saunders should have been named our OC, and the power blocking scheme should have remained. DA really messed up with the Knapp hiring and trusting what that guy said.
TO was right about Knapp….just like he was right about McNabb and Romo too lol.
September 11th, 2012 at 9:10 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 9:08 am
Shonasty got only sack of game.
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Due to pressure from Kelly forcing Rivers to step into him.
September 11th, 2012 at 9:10 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 9:07 am
The run D was great last night and the secondary looked pretty good with Bartell in there (I know he got burned deep) but once he was out it seemed like it was easier for Rivers to throw on us.
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I agree with that, the defense was the only thing that showed me what I expected to see last night.
September 11th, 2012 at 9:10 am
Blah Blah Blah. Learn football before you start makeing goofy predictions,and maybe I wouldnt be all over you like stink on sheeeit.Biotches.
September 11th, 2012 at 9:13 am
Where is that other idiot youngamerican? ya know,the one who kept telling us how smart he is.Not looking to smart now. he owes me a fifty to.Gnna go to his house and take it,and his wife.
September 11th, 2012 at 9:14 am
449.1960AutumnWind Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 8:55 am
DJ Johnny Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 8:51 am
Any talk of “we’ll be fine” and “we’ll take care of Miami” is all based on nothing short of blind hope..not on anything else.
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Did you watch any of the Maimi game??? I assure you they looked far worse than the Raiders in all phases and their QB look tennative. Even though Raiders have not traditionally done well on that trip in past I think they are angry and will be focused and take it out on them (especially on defense). Raiders win 20-3.
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I hope you’re right, but for me this is one of those i’ll believe it when I see it cases.
Raiders..no matter who they play, always seem to be team that will play down to their competition. They make bad teams look great.
I don’t know yet if I believe that the Raiders will be “angry” about this week cuz I don’t know what kind of coach DA really is.
His debut was pathetic display of ineptitude. Team looked unprepared and were still bumbling and bungling just like always…He hasn’t changed a damn thing from what I saw.
We have only the evidence of a real game being played and from that…it looks worse than before.
September 11th, 2012 at 9:14 am
489 I’ll fabricate an A$$ beating,you dont pay little man.
September 11th, 2012 at 9:14 am
ShoNasty is not a RDE.
Great at that position against the run, but he is FAR from a pass rusher.
Aaron Curry injury is killing us. Bet you dollars to donuts he would be rushing the passer from the edge if he was healthy.
Defense looked great gainst the run, but the edge rush and secondary are certainly a concern.
September 11th, 2012 at 9:15 am
Oakfoshow is not a gangster, and is most certainly not from Compton.
He’s a lily-white teenager from Toledo, Ohio who wears footie pajamas and pleasures himself to old Dr Dre CDs. His life’s passion is give a rimjob to Snoop.
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You mean Ann Arbor, Mich? Right?
September 11th, 2012 at 9:16 am
oakfoshow Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 9:14 am
489 I’ll fabricate an A$$ beating,you dont pay little man.
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Ooh internet gangster likes to make threats eh? Doesn’t get any lower than you pu$$y.
September 11th, 2012 at 9:16 am
My computer skills are lacking, Can someone PLEASE start a fire Knapp website? Seriously.
September 11th, 2012 at 9:16 am
raider o.your a fag.
September 11th, 2012 at 9:16 am
oakfoshow Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 9:13 am
Where is that other idiot youngamerican? ya know,the one who kept telling us how smart he is.Not looking to smart now. he owes me a fifty to.Gnna go to his house and take it,and his wife.
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Did you go to a special school to become such a GIANT A Hole or does it just comme naturally. STFU loser douche bag
September 11th, 2012 at 9:17 am
Flacco can do the no huddle, Let’s see what Palmer can do. You know right off the bat it is better than Knapp.
September 11th, 2012 at 9:17 am
99,
I hope you are as wrong about Knapp was you were about 55.
I’m going to give him one more game.
I happen to have my eyebrows raised at DA and 3 as well!!!
They PLANNED this all week. If DA, 3, and Saunders aren’t aggressively “suggesting” changes, the we are in trouble!
September 11th, 2012 at 9:18 am
Oak desperately needs 50 bucks, needs to buy his new house shoes and bus pass for the month.
September 11th, 2012 at 9:18 am
I love how all the little biotches that were talking up this offense is now feeling like morons,so what they do? Stick together and run the mouth.Figures.pzzy a$$ bches.
September 11th, 2012 at 9:19 am
You HAVE to run your routes PAST the 1st dn marker.
You HAVE to throw it to a rec that is PAST the 1st dn marker.
I agree with Charlie that these PLAYERS need to wake the eff up!!!!
September 11th, 2012 at 9:20 am
TxRaider210 Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 9:08 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 9:05 am
Klas is grumpy today. Has no more time for ebonics speaking gangsta who likes to eat the dick.
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Then tries to fabricate a story about how everyone owes him money..lmao
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How else is he going to continue pretending to be a Gangsta?
He needs money to buy gangsta gear and gold teeth.
Gangsta!!!
September 11th, 2012 at 9:20 am
Txraider 210.Not feeling to good about yourself right about now huh. Tell us all your prediction again for this offence? Rediculious idiot.
September 11th, 2012 at 9:21 am
I didn’t love running DMAC into the ground in 1st game.
Does anyone else think it is weird that the Raiders were so concerned with rushing DMO back but don’t blink an eye to over using DMAC?
September 11th, 2012 at 9:21 am
Another bright spot on the D is the linebackers. They were flying to the ball like I’ve never seen. Rolando is a different player, he looks more confident and quicker shooting his gaps. Burris is going to be good. He had one miscue I saw but for the most part he is super quick and a very, very good tackler.
September 11th, 2012 at 9:21 am
Gangster,gangster, gangster.that the best yall can come up with? Oh and who was right again?
September 11th, 2012 at 9:22 am
Oakfoshow Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 9:16 am
raider o.your a fag.
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No I’m not. Ask your mother.
September 11th, 2012 at 9:22 am
New respect for long snappers
September 11th, 2012 at 9:23 am
she said you were a fag.
September 11th, 2012 at 9:23 am
DA – F Attention to detail. No back up LS contingency.
GK – D
JT – A – Props to Tarver, and the D for keeping it close.
ST – F You mean we do not have someone as a LS backup?
We miss JFORD on KOR, TJ appears ???
September 11th, 2012 at 9:24 am
Look Fellas, The Saints Lost to the Freakin Washington Redskins..AT Home..On Opening Day….
The end of the world is not near.
Our longsnapper cost us the game along with that Complete Freakin Sh!Tfor Brains Tommy Kelly.
Were going to be ok.
September 11th, 2012 at 9:24 am
Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 9:16 am
My computer skills are lacking, Can someone PLEASE start a fire Knapp website? Seriously.
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Use the Google Blogger! It is free.
September 11th, 2012 at 9:25 am
Bottom line. DRIPPY killed our playoff hopes because he is over his head.Like most of you in here were when predited this offense to be a powerhouse.. $50.00?
September 11th, 2012 at 9:26 am
S Absolutely disgusted watching that wretched game .last night it is amazing how the raiders always look like a work in progress, crap play calling also killed me this team never looks in control ever. What the heck was with that hand off to McFadden for a loss of 11 yard’s, the play was insipid. Allen should have known that long snapper issues would arise, would have went on the 4th and 1, said before the punt team came out.
You take your most dynamic player and basically tell the other team ” he is getting the ball 75% of the time” so take your chances!
No pass rush, are you kidding me. I am sick of this same old story year after year!
I was willing to give Knapp a pass, no excuses you suck Knapp,!! Get out of the league.
Like our linebackers, but disappointed with this effort
Btw Chris berman is horrendous like someone calling a game on downers and living in 1976
September 11th, 2012 at 9:26 am
Tommy Kelly needs to donate his game check along with that C patch on his jersey. Captain dumba$$.
September 11th, 2012 at 9:26 am
JT – A – Props to Tarver, and the D for keeping it close.
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So DA gets no credit for the D???
Have to agree with you on the lack of backup LS.
Goethel said the question was raised in camp who could do it and no one else said a word. Should have been a roster prioriy then.
Is that the HC or GM though?
September 11th, 2012 at 9:26 am
Hey, I’ve been so busy slamming Krapp, I almost forgot to send out a big fk you to DHagan.
I’m 100% serious when I say this…
If I’m the head coach, any azzhole that dares to celebrate making a catch in the first quarter, and prances around like he just won the SB – is getting cut before he can finally get back to the huddle.
Act like you been there, azzclown. Get back to the fking huddle and be ready to do it again.
September 11th, 2012 at 9:27 am
Long snapper my dik.This offense sucks really bad.BY BY Knapp,and take Allen And Drippy with you.Dont forget half the peeps in this blog,All dumba$$es to.
September 11th, 2012 at 9:28 am
Maybe it was your sister. Go ask her.
September 11th, 2012 at 9:28 am
Btw Chris berman is horrendous like someone calling a game on downers and living in 1976
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Agreed however, 1976 was a great year. 76 Raiders NFL GOAT imo.
September 11th, 2012 at 9:28 am
Shauhnessy was virtually non-existent last night
September 11th, 2012 at 9:30 am
How can we get a pass rush when our hogs are tired, they were on the field all night, offence would go 3 and out all the time. There was no balance at all, I give our d props the score could of looked a lot worse , I mean those fags where on our side of the field and could only get 1 td, the rest fgs.
September 11th, 2012 at 9:30 am
If I’m the head coach, any azzhole that dares to celebrate making a catch in the first quarter, and prances around like he just won the SB – is getting cut before he can finally get back to the huddle.
Act like you been there, azzclown. Get back to the fking huddle and be ready to do it again.
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I was going bezerk after that play. He needs to act like a pro. Get up toss back to the zed, and keep it moving.
Time out for all the silly celebration stuff during the heat of battle.
September 11th, 2012 at 9:30 am
410.Raider O Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 8:42 am
La Milicia Negra Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 8:29 am
guest123 Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 8:28 am
Is there a fireGregKnappnow.com website up yet?
Can we get a white billboard over I-880 with just the website name up for signatures. Somebody please step up locally and work this.
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is there a cut the rest of Als draft picks?
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Great idea!
Let’s cut DMAC, Moore, DHB, Ford, Veldheer, Wiz, McClain, Houston, Huff, etc…
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LMN always manages to say something insanely stupid while he denigrates Al and the team.
September 11th, 2012 at 9:30 am
Goethel made Yahoo headlines!!
Lol…”NFL backup’s very embarrassing night”
September 11th, 2012 at 9:30 am
The troll’s stench is strong this morning.
September 11th, 2012 at 9:30 am
Gangsta pudding!
Gangsta pudding!
September 11th, 2012 at 9:31 am
Palmer ripped dhb on sidelines, best thing was Palmer can play period can we send Knapp to the play e we sent breshnehan? Think he is on devils island
September 11th, 2012 at 9:31 am
517.MikieG Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 9:24 am
Look Fellas, The Saints Lost to the Freakin Washington Redskins..AT Home..On Opening Day….
The end of the world is not near.
Our longsnapper cost us the game along with that Complete Freakin Sh!Tfor Brains Tommy Kelly.
Were going to be ok.
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The BIG difference is the Saints have a recent history of WINNING and not stumbling and bumbling…it makes to assume they will get back on track..For the Raiders? There is no reason to believe we will magically start winning football games.
I hope they do, but DA put out an ill-prepared mess out there.
Defensively? There is reason for some optimism. Offensively? None.
The scary thing is I don’t think SD is even that good, but we saw a scared, tentative, bungling Raider team out there and the punt sequences were inexcusable.
September 11th, 2012 at 9:31 am
Anyone else think Jon Condo last night looked a lot like that weird looking dude with the blue 3 piece suit and crazy eyes that shills for NFL fantasy football on NFL.com?
September 11th, 2012 at 9:31 am
411.Thec Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 8:42 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 8:34 am
Also, Jacoby Ford not being at the game is VERY strange.
Did he have a secret surgery??
Beef with Allen??
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you of all people turning to speculation, and conspiracy theory’s?
JFORD was not seen at the game. Could he have possible been in the locker room???
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Jerrymac started the “rumors”
September 11th, 2012 at 9:31 am
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 9:26 am
Hey, I’ve been so busy slamming Krapp, I almost forgot to send out a big fk you to DHagan.
I’m 100% serious when I say this…
If I’m the head coach, any azzhole that dares to celebrate making a catch in the first quarter, and prances around like he just won the SB – is getting cut before he can finally get back to the huddle.
Act like you been there, azzclown. Get back to the fking huddle and be ready to do it again.
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I hope your joking, Seriously, Hagan is the least of the teams worries! What’s the big deal with a guy getting the crowd pumped?
Relax
September 11th, 2012 at 9:32 am
Denarius has been hurt for 5 months. Jacoby gets hurt getting out of bed. Bartel sneezed so hard he separates his shoulder. Dmac gonna go down next after brushing his teeth. This is the most fragile team in the NFL.
September 11th, 2012 at 9:32 am
Good ole Tommy Kelly!
“Tommy Kelly jumped offsides twice on third-down plays…”
September 11th, 2012 at 9:32 am
guest123 Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 9:31 am
Anyone else think Jon Condo last night looked a lot like that weird looking dude with the blue 3 piece suit and crazy eyes that shills for NFL fantasy football on NFL.com?
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That was Goethel with the awesome beard, not Condo.
September 11th, 2012 at 9:32 am
You guys talking about Hagan???
September 11th, 2012 at 9:32 am
J Hill Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 9:26 am
JT – A – Props to Tarver, and the D for keeping it close.
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So DA gets no credit for the D???
Have to agree with you on the lack of backup LS.
Goethel said the question was raised in camp who could do it and no one else said a word. Should have been a roster prioriy then.
Is that the HC or GM though?
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That’s on the HC, and falls under contingency planning.
September 11th, 2012 at 9:33 am
Dumb question….
Why didn’t they just get one of the regular centers to snap for punts?
They snap for the shotgun.
September 11th, 2012 at 9:34 am
Nice end around on your 30 yard line. Taiwan Jones will not be on the offense for some time another all Davis whiff
September 11th, 2012 at 9:35 am
544 I thought the same thing, after the 2nd gaff I was saying why the hell not.
September 11th, 2012 at 9:35 am
I hear DHB is going on IR. He pulled his groin falling off the toilet seat.
September 11th, 2012 at 9:35 am
Kirk Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 9:33 am
Dumb question….
Why didn’t they just get one of the regular centers to snap for punts?
They snap for the shotgun.
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That’s on the HC, and falls under contingency planning.
September 11th, 2012 at 9:36 am
541,
thanks for that. I got them mixed up. Wow Goethel had this dazed look on his face. I thought he looked concussed. So I assumed it was Condo.
September 11th, 2012 at 9:36 am
Rich Gannon was right about this team.
I’m sick of hearing “well we did this ok”, or “we did that ok”…
WINNING games is all that matters. All the rest is just excuses and b.s.
September 11th, 2012 at 9:36 am
Charlie Says:
From here on out we will face bend but do not break defenses until our players EXECUTE BETTER. PLAYERS. PLAYERS!!!!!!!
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Someone else gets it.
September 11th, 2012 at 9:37 am
I am the new mayor of this blog! I’ll be makeing a list of who can leave soon.
September 11th, 2012 at 9:37 am
Fair catch on the 7 yd line?
Offsides on 3rd down twice on same drive.
STeams look horid.
Recievers not going past the sticks on 3rd down. Basic pee-wee football shvt gentlmen.
September 11th, 2012 at 9:37 am
Dumb question….
Why didn’t they just get one of the regular centers to snap for punts?
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I’ve asked that same dumb question for years.
Why can’t the backup C man those duties????
September 11th, 2012 at 9:37 am
Kirk Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 9:33 am
Dumb question….
Why didn’t they just get one of the regular centers to snap for punts?
They snap for the shotgun.
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You’re right, dumb question.
September 11th, 2012 at 9:37 am
One thing for sure regardless how the season goes, Reggie has everyone on alert eventually he will have the players he wants, next year will look quite different personnel wise, it is obvious
September 11th, 2012 at 9:38 am
Reggie, swallow your pride and get Hue in for OC!
September 11th, 2012 at 9:38 am
You guys arent serious right??
You STILL dont see that long snapping & regular snapping are night & day…. COME ON.
September 11th, 2012 at 9:39 am
556 reggie needs to put himself on alert.hes the duechbag that ruined this team.
September 11th, 2012 at 9:40 am
Been saying it for months now.
Best thing RM did, was to retain ASAUNDERS.
DA, GK, and ASAUNDERS need to have a “special meeting” today.
September 11th, 2012 at 9:41 am
Hill Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 9:37 am
Dumb question….
Why didn’t they just get one of the regular centers to snap for punts?
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I’ve asked that same dumb question for years.
Why can’t the backup C man those duties????
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Great idea.
This was DA first game as a head coach on any level. Mistakes will be made. The offense was lacking it’s two best receivers and its second best player….Pryor.
September 11th, 2012 at 9:41 am
The cut Condo, cut Lechler, cut Jano crowd is real quiet today…
September 11th, 2012 at 9:42 am
Question, is GK the only OCO in the NFL on the sidelines?
September 11th, 2012 at 9:42 am
Snapping the ball is snapping the ball.
A C should be able to handle ALL snapping duties!
September 11th, 2012 at 9:42 am
I’m a Lil worried bout the offensive scheme.
Dmac played better in huey offense. IMO
September 11th, 2012 at 9:42 am
Welcome to Oakland’s newest bed and breakfast.
I’m your gracious host, Greg Knapp.
Over easy or scrambled sir?
September 11th, 2012 at 9:42 am
oakfoshow Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 9:37 am
I am the new mayor of this blog! I’ll be makeing a list of who can leave soon.
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All in favor of leaving this Troll in purgatory and not responding to his posts, say EYE!
September 11th, 2012 at 9:43 am
Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 9:41 am
The cut Condo, cut Lechler, cut Jano crowd is real quiet today…
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Need to hop in the wayback machine, and see who else besides BSJ were advocating that we wack JCONDO.
September 11th, 2012 at 9:44 am
Raider O Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 9:30 am
Gangsta pudding!
Gangsta pudding!
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LMAO Gangsta pudding!
September 11th, 2012 at 9:45 am
I hope your joking, Seriously, Hagan is the least of the teams worries! What’s the big deal with a guy getting the crowd pumped?
Relax
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I’m not joking at all.
You are supposed to be a professional.
You made a catch for a first down.
Whoopdeedoo.
Cat was prancing around, hamming it up with that ‘look how great I am’ attention dance.
Surprised he could get back to the huddle in time for the next snap. Maybe next time it results in a delay of game. Or taunting penalty.
Catch didn’t win the game. Didn’t even lead to any points.
WTF was he celebrating ?
Amateur hour. Looked like a silly punk.
September 11th, 2012 at 9:45 am
Here’s to all you mutts that pissed & moaned because of Condo, to Lechler, to Jano.
You know who you are.
You’ll never take for granted a competent long-snapper ever again will you mutt?
September 11th, 2012 at 9:46 am
Maybe Knapp needs to get with al Saunders am use some of hue’s offense.
I never thought changing a top ten offense was a good plan.
But we will see I guess.
September 11th, 2012 at 9:50 am
That be correct
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Thec Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 9:35 am
That’s on the HC, and falls under contingency planning.
September 11th, 2012 at 9:51 am
What an embarressing loss last nite.Once again I have to endure the wrath of Raider Haters calling and texting me to find out WTH happened out there to “my boys” last nite….
September 11th, 2012 at 9:53 am
RaidingTexas Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 9:36 am
Charlie Says:
From here on out we will face bend but do not break defenses until our players EXECUTE BETTER. PLAYERS. PLAYERS!!!!!!!
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Someone else gets it.
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That would be the answer if we were talking about college football. In the NFL every player was a star somewhere. Players that fit the teams system and coaches that can adjust their system to emphasize their players strengths win games. Coaching is important. DA did not have elements of this team prepared to compete. He made it a point to emphasize that he was going to manage the coordinators. If he signed off on the offensive gameplan, the defensive gameplan or didn’t bring up any special teams concerns then he is responsible for this loss. If he didn’t make any adjustments at halftime then he is responsible. The players should be held accountable but DA should be held accountable also.
September 11th, 2012 at 9:59 am
Thec Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 9:42 am
Question, is GK the only OCO in the NFL on the sidelines?
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Dang Thec, every time I’m about to let up on the Krappster, someone brings up another reason to blast his sorry azz.
I don’t know if he’s the only one, but he’s one of the very few.
And I’ll tell you what – he’s got no fkng biz being on the sideline.
Heck, he’s got no fkng biz being the OC to begin with – but it’s ridiculous the way he stands there constantly looking over his play chart.
I swear he’s looking at his chart instead of watching what’s going on out there.
How many fking times do u need to look at that damned chart ?
Seriously, it should be MEMORIZED and known by heart by the time the game starts.
Looks like the doofus is looking through the list for a play that might work, instead of knowing what he wants to call and just sending the call in to CP.
Don’t even get me started on whether Krapp has installed a no-huddle at all. I DON’T THINK HE HAS.
FPOS.
September 11th, 2012 at 10:01 am
-Raider Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 12:04 am
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September 11th, 2012 at 10:02 am
-Raider Says:
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September 11th, 2012 at 10:03 am
578.DJ Johnny Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 10:02 am
-Raider Says:
September 11th, 2012 at 12:04 am
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Sorry, u correctly already had me on there.
September 11th, 2012 at 10:05 am
Here’s my take;
1.Effing Greg “take a nap’s” putrid offense.We have receivers that can stretch the field…why not do it once in a while Greg.You have to keep the defense honest by taking some shots.
2.Marcel Reece should be used at some point.Isn’t Reece “the matchup nightmare”? I guess Greg hasn’t realized this.
3.The “not so special teams” have been killing us all summer.Condo going down was just a sign of what was to come.Mr Special Teams coach,you better get it fixed real soon
4.Mr Nap,you ran the same plays to DMC…over and over and over again last night.THIS IS THE EFFIN NFL,NOT HIGH SCHOOL!! What do you think the Chargers were gonna do.
5.In closing,looking at our next 3 games is like a death row inmate looking at the electric chair…we cannot ever go to Miami and beat them.Then its Pittsburgh and Payton.WE ARE LOOKING AT AN 0-4 START!!!!!
Reggie if Huey was your friend maybe you could have talked him into taking a demotion to be the Off Coordinator….fix it or we are DOOMED!!!
September 11th, 2012 at 10:09 am
For me, this isn’t a Knapp issue. His system works, and eventually when they get the players they want in here, it’ll probably click. I’m just annoyed that we even had to start over again. I think we turned the corner a few years back and just needed to stay the course, not blow it all up. Tired of taking two steps back.
September 11th, 2012 at 10:14 am
New Era of Excellence??
I am so sick of all the hype and bullschytt…
Told we are this and that…and blahblahblahblah.
I love the Raiders..always will. Will never stop rooting for em, but I am soooo fed up with the b.s and looking like schytt when it comes to game time.
It’s like we’re always told how “Excellent” the org is..and then when they actually play, they look like a bunch of retarded keystone cops…and then…we’re told how “it’s gonna get fixed” blahblahblah.
SOOOOO SICK of all the damn talk. “Hey everybody…we’re losing better now”. “Ignore the scoreboard..THIS IS EXCELLENCE..Trust us”.
Oh..but Reggie and DA “are gonna fix this”.
Yeah..whatever.
September 11th, 2012 at 10:20 am
Don’t worry guys…It’s gonna get fixed. We really aren’t that bad…lotta good things to take from yet another humiliating embarrassment at the hands of a hated division rival…
I’ve got that stern look on my face and despite what you see on the field we are better.
NEW ERA of Excellence…couldn’t you guys tell?
Don’t worry about the wins and losses stuff..it’s unimportant.
WE ARE EXCELLENT!
September 11th, 2012 at 10:45 am
Yep…I Love My Raiders to the Bone but right now I’m speechless…I just don’t know what to say. We needed to win that division game. That was the worst I’ve ever seen the Raiders play. I’m a very positive person and right now I don’t know if we can defeat the Phins Sunday. We looked liked hot garbage last night. What’s a Man to do about his Raiders? I am baffled? What am I gonna do?
September 11th, 2012 at 10:50 am
Sooooo in a game with 4 TURNOVERS. You would think that that would be the main culprit.
September 11th, 2012 at 10:51 am
Keep in mind they mentioned how 4 TURNOVERS = catostropic mistakes that cannot happen.
September 11th, 2012 at 10:53 am
I could be wrong but I looked for him and didn’t see Wiz out there. He is our best interior lineman if he’s healthy he needs to be on the field. I don’t care how good his backup played preseason, it preseason. Having Wiz’s toughness and intelligence in the middle of our line would/will help both our run and pass game going forward i think. Also, Palmer needs to at least make throws deep to keep the defense honest, second half they loaded up on DMC. Palmer had a good stat line, I thought he played OK, needs to take more chance (having D Moore and Ford’s speed out there will help keep defenses honest). I thought playcalling was ok not great but definitely not terrible. I mean the one risk he took in the first half completely backfired for a 25 yd loss and that’s not his fault as the play was wide open if reece and jones connect thats a huge gain. After something like that happens its normal to get a little conservative. Definitely became one dimensional which is concerning but when we get our players back i think that will change. Anyone who says you can’t win in this league with a run heavy offense I personally believe is wrong because the Texans are run first (they actually run the exact same offense as us) and they are a favorite to win it all. Baltimore has been run first for many years and look how many wins they have. SF is run first and they are winning right now. Last yr before mcfadden got hurt we were run first and we were 5-2.
I honestly believe if Condo doesn’t get hurt we win this game. That was huge! not only because they had GREAT field position everytime, but that also meant we started from the 20 EVERY time and driving 80 yds in the NFL is not easy. Lechler’s the best punter in the league I have to believe if he’s able to get off those punts he switches the field position battle and that would have changed the whole game. I thought our defense played pretty much lights out. gave up a few big plays, but unlike years past, we didn’t let those big plays turn into TD’s (except once). to be put in the situation our D was put in today against a very potent offense and only give up one TD, that was impressive to me. Talk about the pass rush all you want, yes that is important, but what do ALL of the best defenses in the league have in common, they are all stout against the run. OUr defense was really stout against the run today. I saw a completely different Rolando McClain than the past two years. He was shooting gaps, smashing running backs at the line of scrimmage, very promising. as the article says our LB’s were ALL OVER THE FIELD today. Wheeler did a prettty good job on gates too, not great but pretty good. A lot of Gates plays came against our safeties (which isn’t good) but our LB’s were money tonight and if our D can play like this all season, I know our special teams isn’t gonna play that bad, it’s literally impossible, and our O will find a rhythm especially when we get our best players out there. We will be OK. there’s no reason to hit the PANIC/”let’s throw TP in the game” button. Calm down with all that. We ran a pretty conservative game plan and Palmer still almos tthrew for 300 yds without his #1 and #3 receivers, c’mon with all that bench palmer talk. It’s week one. I don’t think the panthers are talking about benchin Cam Newton right now and Palmer’s stats were better than his. It’s week 1 ppl. New Orleans and Green Bay both lost, I don’t think they are panicking right now. That’s just my thoughts on last night. Feel free to dissect and disagree.
-Season Ticket Holder since BIRTH (not kidding)..
September 11th, 2012 at 10:53 am
Also…. Knapp did stretch the field several times.
Wrs have to “catch” the ball
September 11th, 2012 at 10:54 am
I forgot, in past years a game like this would have been an absolute ROUTE. I’m talking 30-40 pt loss. the fact that we were in it and had a chance, an outside chance, but a chance to tie at the end says a lot about this years team i think…
September 11th, 2012 at 11:02 am
Good Morning/Afternoon Nation!!!
First off…F the dam OPD and the P Lot staff for f’ing up another opening ninght/day experience! Took 2 hours to get in yesterday…2 hours!!!
2nd of all…sorry to DMAC, and others because my phone was tweaking bad…received a bunch of VM’s but no missed calls, and I couldn’t call out!
(and then someone dropped a whole tray of meat)
After that, it was like the Keystone Cops out there for a bit! But, yes, in year’s past…that kind of game would have been more embarrassing!
I said it during the 3rd qtr that I could not believe that I wasted a day off…however, deep down, I would not give up a game day/night experience for anything!!!
With that said…GO RAIDERS (For Life and Beyond)!
September 11th, 2012 at 11:12 am
Defense WAS pretty stout. Phillys just threw perfect passes all game long. Offensive game plan was BUNK, and we can’t seem to just get IT together. We always look so unprepared and commentators can’t help but laugh. Dilfer and Berman went out of their way (I thought) to try and positively spin the Raiders play so far, but they ended up sharing chuckles after the half.
I was screaming at Streater to put 2 HANDS ON THE BALL, during that 1st drive……”BALL OUT”……GAWD DAMNIT! ! !
So it’s gonna be one of those games is it? and it was……
September 11th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
Not sure why we messed with an offense that was so potent at times last year. Put last years O on the field with this years D, we win a LOT of games. Knapp is a complete idiot. His playbook reminds me of Tecmo Bowl or something. Just give it to DMac every single time; no need to throw the ball down field. No need to run a 3+ yard route when it’s 3rd & 3; just run a 1/2 route and we’ll leave it up to our Special Teams (which is MISSING a key player!!) Speaking of ST’s, Steve Hoffman, if you’re not fired by now, you should be this time tomorrow. Our ST’s has underachieved up to this point and yesterday just brought it to light on national television. Dump Hoffman and Knapp ASAP (although i guess we’re stuck with Knapp meaning this season could be over before it even began)
September 11th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
@ hwnrdr
I was thinking the same thing last night…”I called off work,wasting a ’slick day’ for this?” Well at least I was at home and not at a bar spending more money.
Hope next week isnt this messy…
September 11th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
Hue had his flaws but his system was a much better fit for these players. They would have been better off sticking with Hue for another year and getting a new DC. Trying to cram this outdated “West Coast Offense” down everyones throat isnt going to work. Knapp has never been anything more than a mediocre OC, what made them think this time around would be any different?
September 13th, 2012 at 2:23 am
Going Back to Gregg Knapp’s Offense has always been a plan for disaster. If you remember the last time he was here this all feels a little familiar. Fire Him now! As you heard them say during the game he learned something new in Houston (they fixed his bad offense?). No they didn’t. Go back to blocking the way we know we can with the people we have. and let the coach we already have Al Saunders put a more appropriate offense in. At least one that is interesting to watch. This loss was all coaching. Lack of aggressive play calling. Allen has probably a lot to do with that being a defensive coach saying just don’t hurt us.His defense was much better but philip rivers passes were on the money.