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Plenty of blame to go around in Raiders loss

In simplistic terms, it would be easy to blame the Raiders season-opening loss to the San Diego Chargers on an injury to long-snapper Jon Condo. In reality, there was plenty of blame to go around.
Defensive tackle Tommy Kelly jumped offsides twice on third-down plays that resulted in first downs with the 5-yard infractions. The Chargers parlayed the freebies into a touchdown-scoring drive.
Rookie wide receiver Rod Streater fumbled away the ball after gaining 8 yards on a third-and-four play from the Chargers 38-yard line. That cost the Raiders a shot at a touchdown and at least a field goal.
A delay of game cost the Raiders 5 yards on a drive at the end of the first half, with the Raiders forced to kick a field goal on a fouth-and-one play from inside the Chargers 2-yard line.
“We got to eliminate the self-inflicted wounds,” Raiders coach Dennis Allen said. “That’s the thing that has hurt us in the preseason and, obviously, it hurt us tonight. We have to find a way to get those things eliminated. Really, when you look at it, we did some good things in the game.”
Yet, those things weren’t enough to offset the bad things that surfaced, in part because of a head injury suffered by Condo early in the second quarter.
On three successive punts, Shane Lechler was unable to get off a punt in the second half.
On the first one, backup snapper Travis Goethel’s snap one-hopped Lechler, who was forced to run for his life. The Chargers parlayed that field-position swing into a field goal.
On the second one, Goethel’s snap floated back to Lechler, who had his punt blocked right off his foot. Another Chargers field goal ensued.
The capper came when Goethel three-hopped his snap to Lechler, who bobbled the ball, which the Chargers recovered in Raiders territory. Again, the Chargers turned their good fortune into another field goal.
“My hat’s off to him just for doing it,” Lechler said. “That (stuff) ain’t easy. He went out and did his best. That’s all you ask from a guy to get put in a situation like that.”
Allen said he had confidence in Goethel based on the way Goethel performed in practice.
“He’s worked on snapping the ball,” Allen said. “Actually he’s done a nice job in practice. It’s obviously a lot different when you get in a game-like situation. He was put in a tough situation and it hurt us.”
Goethel said he last long-snapped in a game back in high school. That was seven years ago or so. He said his practice time is limited to before full-team practices
When asked how many snaps Goethel gets during practice during a typical week, Lechler said: “Zero.”
Yet, there he was, the man on the spot when Condo went down.
How he got there is rather curious, too.
“(Allen) asked if I knew how to long snap, and I was the only one at camp that stood out,” Goethel said. “That’s kind of how I got put in there.”
Goethel said he is confident that he can get up to speed with more practice.
He might not get the opportunity.
“We’ll look at that tomorrow and we’ll find out what options we have available to us,” Allen said, “but we’ll make sure we have someone who can handle those duties.”
Condo’s status will be re-evaluated Tuesday, with an update provided at that time.

– Cornerback Ron Bartell allowed completions of 46 and 23 yards before he suffered shoulder and elbow injuries. He exited the game midway through the second quarter and missed the rest of the action.
Allen seemed more concerned about the shoulder. Again, an update won’t be forthcoming on Bartell’s status until Tuesday.
Veteran Pat Lee filled in for Bartell the rest of the way, and he appeared to do fine.

– Any concerns about kicker Sebastian Janikowski’s groin were allayed by his kicking a 51-yard field goal late in the first quarter. He added a 19-yarder at the end of the first half.

– Running back Darren McFadden caught 13 passes for 86 yards, one shy of former wide receiver Tim Brown’s franchise record (1997).
In all, quarterback Carson Palmer directed 18 of his 46 passes for McFadden. Overall, McFadden was the focal point on 33 of 64 offensive plays.
“We just go with the offense, however the offense is called that’s how we roll,” McFadden said. “You never know what to expect when you run into a football game, whether you’re going to get it this many times or however. We roll with the flow of the game.”
McFadden played in a regular-season game for the first time since last October, when he suffered a season-ending foot injury. By all accounts, he looked at full strength and quite capable of handling the sizable workload.
McFadden said he is confident that he can hold up for an entire season with this kind of workload.
“Oh, yeah, I don’t have a problem with it,” McFadden said. “I’m a ball player and that’s what they pay me to do, go out there and handle it like this. That’s what they pay me to do.”

– As expected, Allen said he opted against activating wide receiver Denarius Moore as a precautionary measure.
Moore returned to practice Thursday after missing a little more than a month with a hamstring injury. He showed no lingering effects from his injury, but Allen said all along that it would be a game-time decision.
“Any time you don’t have one of your better players, it’s something you have to try to work to overcome,” Allen said. “He was very close. He probably could have played in the game, but I chose not to play him because it’s a long season and we have 15 more of these games left to play. I wanted to make sure we had him healthy for the majority of the season.”
Moore’s absence necessitated Allen going with Streater as the starter opposite Darrius Heyward-Bey. It also meant significant playing time for veteran Derek Hagan, who was signed Thursday.
Streater and Hagan combined for eight receptions for 71 yards and a touchdown. Palmer targeted them 15 times combined.
Heyward-Bey caught three passes for 43 yards, but he wasn’t much of a factor. Rookie Juron Criner didn’t have any passes thrown his way.
Allen said Criner was limited more so because of the practice time he missed than the ankle injury that has hobbled him for more than a week.

– The Raiders held the Chargers rushing attack to 34 yards on 19 carries, excluding the kneel-down by quarterback Philip Rivers.
It’s worth noting that the Chargers were without lead back Ryan Mathews. Still, the Raiders played well against the run and forced the Chargers to become one-dimensional at times.
“Defensively, we played really pretty well,” Allen said. “There’s really a couple of plays. We gave up a big pass to (Robert) Meachem on a third-down situation and then we gave up a long drive there in the second quarter. ”

– Rivers completed 24 of 33 passes for 231 yards and one touchdown. He was sacked only once and didn’t have any passes intercepted.
“Their offensive line did a nice job of protecting tonight,” Allen said. “Philip did a nice job of retreating some in the pocket, buying himself some time and being able to throw the ball. He did that a couple of times when we had a chance maybe to get to him.
“Philip played well. He’s a good quarterback. We have a lot of respect for him and a lot of respect for the Chargers and the team that they are. They executed. They were better than us tonight.”

– Allen also praised the play of his own quarterback, Palmer.
With good reason, too. Palmer completed 32 of 46 passes for 297 yards and one touchdown, without any interceptions. He was sacked three times in the second half.
“Carson played well today,” Allen said. “Offensively, we were able to move the ball but we didn’t have a lot of points to show for it.”
For his part, Palmer said the Raiders hurt themselves too often.
“We stopped ourselves, especially in the first half,” Palmer said. “We had the fumble and then the drop (on the) reverse that we lost a lot of yardage on. Just kind of silly things that really slowed us down and put us in third-and-long situations. You can’t do that.”

– Linebackers Rolando McClain, Philip Wheeler and Miles Burris were all over the field for the Raiders on Monday night.
The trio combined for 22 tackles and played a key role in shutting down the Chargers running game.
Rivers said he was impressed by what he saw from the new-look Raiders defense.
“It’s certainly a different scheme,” Rivers said. “It’s more of a Denver scheme from last year. … It’s a good group. It’s a stout front seven and the guys in the secondary can really run. So, they certainly presented some challenges tonight.”

– A Raiders drive that bridged the first and second quarters came undone when fullback Marcel Reece took a hand-off from Palmer and flipped it to running back Taiwan Jones.
Reece’s flip sailed toward Jones’ head, and Jones was unable to get his hands on it before it bounced off his helmet and to the ground. By the time the play was over, Jones had lost 25 yards.
The Chargers scored their first touchdown on the ensuing drive, though they had to march 90 yards to get there. That’s the drive on which Kelly jumped offsides twice within a five-play span.
Allen said he didn’t consider benching Kelly for his gaffes. Kelly came out for a few plays, but it owed more to fatigue than anything.
“We don’t set hard line rules like that,” Allen said. “At the end of the day, we understand that we have to eliminate the penalties. We had six penalties for 35 yards in the game. Penalties weren’t what cost us the football game. It was the self-inflicted wounds of turning the ball over and giving them the ball at our end of the field.”

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  • RaidingTexas

    Charlie Says:

    From here on out we will face bend but do not break defenses until our players EXECUTE BETTER. PLAYERS. PLAYERS!!!!!!!

    ————————————–

    Someone else gets it.

  • oakfoshow

    I am the new mayor of this blog! I’ll be makeing a list of who can leave soon.

  • jesusraiderjim

    Fair catch on the 7 yd line?

    Offsides on 3rd down twice on same drive.

    STeams look horid.

    Recievers not going past the sticks on 3rd down. Basic pee-wee football shvt gentlmen.

  • J Hill

    Dumb question….

    Why didn’t they just get one of the regular centers to snap for punts?

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    I’ve asked that same dumb question for years.

    Why can’t the backup C man those duties????

  • DennisAllensVisor

    Kirk Says:
    September 11th, 2012 at 9:33 am
    Dumb question….

    Why didn’t they just get one of the regular centers to snap for punts?

    They snap for the shotgun.

    —-

    You’re right, dumb question.

    :)

  • elraidmanhattan

    One thing for sure regardless how the season goes, Reggie has everyone on alert eventually he will have the players he wants, next year will look quite different personnel wise, it is obvious

  • http://profootballtalk.com Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush)

    Reggie, swallow your pride and get Hue in for OC!

  • DennisAllensVisor

    You guys arent serious right??

    You STILL dont see that long snapping & regular snapping are night & day…. COME ON.

  • oakfoshow

    556 reggie needs to put himself on alert.hes the duechbag that ruined this team.

  • Thec

    Been saying it for months now.

    Best thing RM did, was to retain ASAUNDERS.

    DA, GK, and ASAUNDERS need to have a “special meeting” today.

  • Kirk

    Hill Says:
    September 11th, 2012 at 9:37 am
    Dumb question….

    Why didn’t they just get one of the regular centers to snap for punts?

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    I’ve asked that same dumb question for years.

    Why can’t the backup C man those duties????

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    Great idea.

    This was DA first game as a head coach on any level. Mistakes will be made. The offense was lacking it’s two best receivers and its second best player….Pryor.

  • Lowdown_in_Beijing

    The cut Condo, cut Lechler, cut Jano crowd is real quiet today…

  • Thec

    Question, is GK the only OCO in the NFL on the sidelines?

  • J Hill

    Snapping the ball is snapping the ball.

    A C should be able to handle ALL snapping duties!

  • http://Www.bullycains.com r8dercain

    I’m a Lil worried bout the offensive scheme.
    Dmac played better in huey offense. IMO

  • http://profootballtalk.com Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush)

    Welcome to Oakland’s newest bed and breakfast.
    I’m your gracious host, Greg Knapp.
    Over easy or scrambled sir?

  • TxRaider210

    oakfoshow Says:
    September 11th, 2012 at 9:37 am
    I am the new mayor of this blog! I’ll be makeing a list of who can leave soon.

    ———————–
    All in favor of leaving this Troll in purgatory and not responding to his posts, say EYE!

  • Thec

    Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:
    September 11th, 2012 at 9:41 am
    The cut Condo, cut Lechler, cut Jano crowd is real quiet today…

    +++++++

    Need to hop in the wayback machine, and see who else besides BSJ were advocating that we wack JCONDO.

  • TxRaider210

    Raider O Says:
    September 11th, 2012 at 9:30 am
    Gangsta pudding!
    Gangsta pudding!

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    LMAO Gangsta pudding!

  • RAIDERMAN99

    I hope your joking, Seriously, Hagan is the least of the teams worries! What’s the big deal with a guy getting the crowd pumped?
    Relax
    ====================================================
    I’m not joking at all.

    You are supposed to be a professional.

    You made a catch for a first down.

    Whoopdeedoo.

    Cat was prancing around, hamming it up with that ‘look how great I am’ attention dance.

    Surprised he could get back to the huddle in time for the next snap. Maybe next time it results in a delay of game. Or taunting penalty.

    Catch didn’t win the game. Didn’t even lead to any points.

    WTF was he celebrating ?

    Amateur hour. Looked like a silly punk.

  • Raidernationdave

    Here’s to all you mutts that pissed & moaned because of Condo, to Lechler, to Jano.

    You know who you are.

    You’ll never take for granted a competent long-snapper ever again will you mutt?

  • http://Www.bullycains.com r8dercain

    Maybe Knapp needs to get with al Saunders am use some of hue’s offense.
    I never thought changing a top ten offense was a good plan.
    But we will see I guess.

  • Raidernationdave

    That be correct

    +++++

    Thec Says:
    September 11th, 2012 at 9:35 am

    That’s on the HC, and falls under contingency planning.

  • ravenaider

    What an embarressing loss last nite.Once again I have to endure the wrath of Raider Haters calling and texting me to find out WTH happened out there to “my boys” last nite….

  • DT42

    RaidingTexas Says:
    September 11th, 2012 at 9:36 am
    Charlie Says:

    From here on out we will face bend but do not break defenses until our players EXECUTE BETTER. PLAYERS. PLAYERS!!!!!!!

    ————————————–

    Someone else gets it.

    —————————–

    That would be the answer if we were talking about college football. In the NFL every player was a star somewhere. Players that fit the teams system and coaches that can adjust their system to emphasize their players strengths win games. Coaching is important. DA did not have elements of this team prepared to compete. He made it a point to emphasize that he was going to manage the coordinators. If he signed off on the offensive gameplan, the defensive gameplan or didn’t bring up any special teams concerns then he is responsible for this loss. If he didn’t make any adjustments at halftime then he is responsible. The players should be held accountable but DA should be held accountable also.

  • RAIDERMAN99

    Thec Says:
    September 11th, 2012 at 9:42 am
    Question, is GK the only OCO in the NFL on the sidelines?

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    Dang Thec, every time I’m about to let up on the Krappster, someone brings up another reason to blast his sorry azz.

    I don’t know if he’s the only one, but he’s one of the very few.

    And I’ll tell you what – he’s got no fkng biz being on the sideline.

    Heck, he’s got no fkng biz being the OC to begin with – but it’s ridiculous the way he stands there constantly looking over his play chart.

    I swear he’s looking at his chart instead of watching what’s going on out there.

    How many fking times do u need to look at that damned chart ?

    Seriously, it should be MEMORIZED and known by heart by the time the game starts.

    Looks like the doofus is looking through the list for a play that might work, instead of knowing what he wants to call and just sending the call in to CP.

    Don’t even get me started on whether Krapp has installed a no-huddle at all. I DON’T THINK HE HAS.

    FPOS.

  • ArmChair GM

    -Raider Says:
    September 11th, 2012 at 12:04 am

    The Official “Fire Greg Knapp” Petition

    *J-Raider
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    *JB
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    *Raiderimmortal
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  • DJ Johnny

    -Raider Says:
    September 11th, 2012 at 12:04 am

    The Official “Fire Greg Knapp” Petition

    *J-Raider
    *MonumentRaider
    *EMRaiders
    *JB
    *Al_is_Theraiders
    *Raiderimmortal
    *Elraidmanhattan

    *DKnight007
    *Marks Hair
    *ArmChair
    *Stringer Bell
    *Ooo0ooO
    *RaidO
    *Armond
    *Drray
    *RaiderDav
    *RaiderO
    *Raiderman99
    *R8eray
    *Dakota
    *DJ Johnny
    *Oakfoshow
    *Guest123
    *TxRaider210
    *Turducken
    *Johnnylama
    *Thec
    *Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush)
    *DJ Johnny

  • DJ Johnny

    578.DJ Johnny Says:
    September 11th, 2012 at 10:02 am
    -Raider Says:
    September 11th, 2012 at 12:04 am

    The Official “Fire Greg Knapp” Petition

    *J-Raider
    *MonumentRaider
    *EMRaiders
    *JB
    *Al_is_Theraiders
    *Raiderimmortal
    *Elraidmanhattan

    *DKnight007
    *Marks Hair
    *ArmChair
    *Stringer Bell
    *Ooo0ooO
    *RaidO
    *Armond
    *Drray
    *RaiderDav
    *RaiderO
    *Raiderman99
    *R8eray
    *Dakota
    *DJ Johnny
    *Oakfoshow
    *Guest123
    *TxRaider210
    *Turducken
    *Johnnylama
    *Thec
    *Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush)

    Sorry, u correctly already had me on there.

  • ravenaider

    Here’s my take;

    1.Effing Greg “take a nap’s” putrid offense.We have receivers that can stretch the field…why not do it once in a while Greg.You have to keep the defense honest by taking some shots.

    2.Marcel Reece should be used at some point.Isn’t Reece “the matchup nightmare”? I guess Greg hasn’t realized this.

    3.The “not so special teams” have been killing us all summer.Condo going down was just a sign of what was to come.Mr Special Teams coach,you better get it fixed real soon

    4.Mr Nap,you ran the same plays to DMC…over and over and over again last night.THIS IS THE EFFIN NFL,NOT HIGH SCHOOL!! What do you think the Chargers were gonna do.

    5.In closing,looking at our next 3 games is like a death row inmate looking at the electric chair…we cannot ever go to Miami and beat them.Then its Pittsburgh and Payton.WE ARE LOOKING AT AN 0-4 START!!!!!

    Reggie if Huey was your friend maybe you could have talked him into taking a demotion to be the Off Coordinator….fix it or we are DOOMED!!!

  • RaiderDebo

    For me, this isn’t a Knapp issue. His system works, and eventually when they get the players they want in here, it’ll probably click. I’m just annoyed that we even had to start over again. I think we turned the corner a few years back and just needed to stay the course, not blow it all up. Tired of taking two steps back.

  • DJ Johnny

    New Era of Excellence??

    I am so sick of all the hype and bullschytt…

    Told we are this and that…and blahblahblahblah.

    I love the Raiders..always will. Will never stop rooting for em, but I am soooo fed up with the b.s and looking like schytt when it comes to game time.

    It’s like we’re always told how “Excellent” the org is..and then when they actually play, they look like a bunch of retarded keystone cops…and then…we’re told how “it’s gonna get fixed” blahblahblah.

    SOOOOO SICK of all the damn talk. “Hey everybody…we’re losing better now”. “Ignore the scoreboard..THIS IS EXCELLENCE..Trust us”.

    Oh..but Reggie and DA “are gonna fix this”.

    Yeah..whatever.

  • DJ Johnny

    Don’t worry guys…It’s gonna get fixed. We really aren’t that bad…lotta good things to take from yet another humiliating embarrassment at the hands of a hated division rival…

    I’ve got that stern look on my face and despite what you see on the field we are better.

    NEW ERA of Excellence…couldn’t you guys tell?

    Don’t worry about the wins and losses stuff..it’s unimportant.

    WE ARE EXCELLENT!

  • http://InsidetheOaklandRaiders Goldie7

    Yep…I Love My Raiders to the Bone but right now I’m speechless…I just don’t know what to say. We needed to win that division game. That was the worst I’ve ever seen the Raiders play. I’m a very positive person and right now I don’t know if we can defeat the Phins Sunday. We looked liked hot garbage last night. What’s a Man to do about his Raiders? I am baffled? What am I gonna do?

  • 8RaiderReign8

    Sooooo in a game with 4 TURNOVERS. You would think that that would be the main culprit.

  • 8RaiderReign8

    Keep in mind they mentioned how 4 TURNOVERS = catostropic mistakes that cannot happen.

  • NGRaiderfan

    I could be wrong but I looked for him and didn’t see Wiz out there. He is our best interior lineman if he’s healthy he needs to be on the field. I don’t care how good his backup played preseason, it preseason. Having Wiz’s toughness and intelligence in the middle of our line would/will help both our run and pass game going forward i think. Also, Palmer needs to at least make throws deep to keep the defense honest, second half they loaded up on DMC. Palmer had a good stat line, I thought he played OK, needs to take more chance (having D Moore and Ford’s speed out there will help keep defenses honest). I thought playcalling was ok not great but definitely not terrible. I mean the one risk he took in the first half completely backfired for a 25 yd loss and that’s not his fault as the play was wide open if reece and jones connect thats a huge gain. After something like that happens its normal to get a little conservative. Definitely became one dimensional which is concerning but when we get our players back i think that will change. Anyone who says you can’t win in this league with a run heavy offense I personally believe is wrong because the Texans are run first (they actually run the exact same offense as us) and they are a favorite to win it all. Baltimore has been run first for many years and look how many wins they have. SF is run first and they are winning right now. Last yr before mcfadden got hurt we were run first and we were 5-2.
    I honestly believe if Condo doesn’t get hurt we win this game. That was huge! not only because they had GREAT field position everytime, but that also meant we started from the 20 EVERY time and driving 80 yds in the NFL is not easy. Lechler’s the best punter in the league I have to believe if he’s able to get off those punts he switches the field position battle and that would have changed the whole game. I thought our defense played pretty much lights out. gave up a few big plays, but unlike years past, we didn’t let those big plays turn into TD’s (except once). to be put in the situation our D was put in today against a very potent offense and only give up one TD, that was impressive to me. Talk about the pass rush all you want, yes that is important, but what do ALL of the best defenses in the league have in common, they are all stout against the run. OUr defense was really stout against the run today. I saw a completely different Rolando McClain than the past two years. He was shooting gaps, smashing running backs at the line of scrimmage, very promising. as the article says our LB’s were ALL OVER THE FIELD today. Wheeler did a prettty good job on gates too, not great but pretty good. A lot of Gates plays came against our safeties (which isn’t good) but our LB’s were money tonight and if our D can play like this all season, I know our special teams isn’t gonna play that bad, it’s literally impossible, and our O will find a rhythm especially when we get our best players out there. We will be OK. there’s no reason to hit the PANIC/”let’s throw TP in the game” button. Calm down with all that. We ran a pretty conservative game plan and Palmer still almos tthrew for 300 yds without his #1 and #3 receivers, c’mon with all that bench palmer talk. It’s week one. I don’t think the panthers are talking about benchin Cam Newton right now and Palmer’s stats were better than his. It’s week 1 ppl. New Orleans and Green Bay both lost, I don’t think they are panicking right now. That’s just my thoughts on last night. Feel free to dissect and disagree.

    -Season Ticket Holder since BIRTH (not kidding)..

  • 8RaiderReign8

    Also…. Knapp did stretch the field several times.

    Wrs have to “catch” the ball

  • NGRaiderfan

    I forgot, in past years a game like this would have been an absolute ROUTE. I’m talking 30-40 pt loss. the fact that we were in it and had a chance, an outside chance, but a chance to tie at the end says a lot about this years team i think…

  • hwnrdr

    Good Morning/Afternoon Nation!!!
    First off…F the dam OPD and the P Lot staff for f’ing up another opening ninght/day experience! Took 2 hours to get in yesterday…2 hours!!!
    2nd of all…sorry to DMAC, and others because my phone was tweaking bad…received a bunch of VM’s but no missed calls, and I couldn’t call out!
    (and then someone dropped a whole tray of meat)
    After that, it was like the Keystone Cops out there for a bit! But, yes, in year’s past…that kind of game would have been more embarrassing!
    I said it during the 3rd qtr that I could not believe that I wasted a day off…however, deep down, I would not give up a game day/night experience for anything!!!
    With that said…GO RAIDERS (For Life and Beyond)!

  • theghostronin79

    Defense WAS pretty stout. Phillys just threw perfect passes all game long. Offensive game plan was BUNK, and we can’t seem to just get IT together. We always look so unprepared and commentators can’t help but laugh. Dilfer and Berman went out of their way (I thought) to try and positively spin the Raiders play so far, but they ended up sharing chuckles after the half.

    I was screaming at Streater to put 2 HANDS ON THE BALL, during that 1st drive……”BALL OUT”……GAWD DAMNIT! ! !
    So it’s gonna be one of those games is it? and it was……

  • ra8dersfan

    Not sure why we messed with an offense that was so potent at times last year. Put last years O on the field with this years D, we win a LOT of games. Knapp is a complete idiot. His playbook reminds me of Tecmo Bowl or something. Just give it to DMac every single time; no need to throw the ball down field. No need to run a 3+ yard route when it’s 3rd & 3; just run a 1/2 route and we’ll leave it up to our Special Teams (which is MISSING a key player!!) Speaking of ST’s, Steve Hoffman, if you’re not fired by now, you should be this time tomorrow. Our ST’s has underachieved up to this point and yesterday just brought it to light on national television. Dump Hoffman and Knapp ASAP (although i guess we’re stuck with Knapp meaning this season could be over before it even began)

  • ravenaider

    @ hwnrdr

    I was thinking the same thing last night…”I called off work,wasting a ‘slick day’ for this?” Well at least I was at home and not at a bar spending more money.

    Hope next week isnt this messy…

  • GhostToMost

    Hue had his flaws but his system was a much better fit for these players. They would have been better off sticking with Hue for another year and getting a new DC. Trying to cram this outdated “West Coast Offense” down everyones throat isnt going to work. Knapp has never been anything more than a mediocre OC, what made them think this time around would be any different?

  • rackawana

    Going Back to Gregg Knapp’s Offense has always been a plan for disaster. If you remember the last time he was here this all feels a little familiar. Fire Him now! As you heard them say during the game he learned something new in Houston (they fixed his bad offense?). No they didn’t. Go back to blocking the way we know we can with the people we have. and let the coach we already have Al Saunders put a more appropriate offense in. At least one that is interesting to watch. This loss was all coaching. Lack of aggressive play calling. Allen has probably a lot to do with that being a defensive coach saying just don’t hurt us.His defense was much better but philip rivers passes were on the money.