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		<title>By: Grrrrrrr</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 22:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DJ Johnny Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 12:51 pm

You guys say “rebuilding” to exempt Reggie from any responsibility if the 8-8 team he took over does not do anything this yr.

Shoot, he’s got a free pass w/ u guys.

Does it make u feel better to say we’re “rebuilding” cuz it eases the sting of losing?

Why is everyone so quick to absolve the new regime from any responsibility of taking this team to the playoffs when they were so close last yr.?

Must be nice for Reggie to not have to worry about any expectations from the fan base.

“Awww Reggie, we understand…Al Davis left you with such a mess with those 2 consecutive 8-8 seasons. After all, you had to get rid of a few unproductive players and all. Yeah we know you still have the best running back in the league and your all pro DE and MOST ALL of the same starters who were a defensive stop away from the division…We feel for you Reg. Al Davis left you with nothing but crap. You don’t have to worry about us giving you any pressure”.

Where was all the understanding when Hue Jackson as 1st yr. head coach had his QB go down as well as his best player and top receivers…and was left with a crappy DC that he did not have the luxury of choosing, and yet he STILL managed 8-8?

“It’s ok Reggie..you are rebuilding that horrific mess of a team”.

Yeah, what a “mess” he’s inherited.

Reggie loves u guys cuz u don’t expect schytt from him.
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You&#039;re not really inheriting an 8-8 team if you have to cut several of your best players to get under the cap.  Routt and Wimbley aren&#039;t pro bowl players, but they were top10 on the Raiders. Hue managed 8-8 partially because the division was incredibly weak last year (Also because he is a very good OC).

As much as I love them, this team has two very good kickers, one great RB who is often injured, a couple of above average starters and absolutely no depth at most positions (e.g. QB, RB, OL, TE, LB, CB).  Added to that are first-time HC and DC, and a journeyman OC (although I think Knapp takes more criticism than he deserves).

Frankly, I think the team needs to be blown up.  I&#039;d trade anyone over 25 for picks and start fresh... BTW, why do think every new player is on a 1y deal?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DJ Johnny Says:<br />
September 12th, 2012 at 12:51 pm</p>
<p>You guys say “rebuilding” to exempt Reggie from any responsibility if the 8-8 team he took over does not do anything this yr.</p>
<p>Shoot, he’s got a free pass w/ u guys.</p>
<p>Does it make u feel better to say we’re “rebuilding” cuz it eases the sting of losing?</p>
<p>Why is everyone so quick to absolve the new regime from any responsibility of taking this team to the playoffs when they were so close last yr.?</p>
<p>Must be nice for Reggie to not have to worry about any expectations from the fan base.</p>
<p>“Awww Reggie, we understand…Al Davis left you with such a mess with those 2 consecutive 8-8 seasons. After all, you had to get rid of a few unproductive players and all. Yeah we know you still have the best running back in the league and your all pro DE and MOST ALL of the same starters who were a defensive stop away from the division…We feel for you Reg. Al Davis left you with nothing but crap. You don’t have to worry about us giving you any pressure”.</p>
<p>Where was all the understanding when Hue Jackson as 1st yr. head coach had his QB go down as well as his best player and top receivers…and was left with a crappy DC that he did not have the luxury of choosing, and yet he STILL managed 8-8?</p>
<p>“It’s ok Reggie..you are rebuilding that horrific mess of a team”.</p>
<p>Yeah, what a “mess” he’s inherited.</p>
<p>Reggie loves u guys cuz u don’t expect schytt from him.<br />
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You&#8217;re not really inheriting an 8-8 team if you have to cut several of your best players to get under the cap.  Routt and Wimbley aren&#8217;t pro bowl players, but they were top10 on the Raiders. Hue managed 8-8 partially because the division was incredibly weak last year (Also because he is a very good OC).</p>
<p>As much as I love them, this team has two very good kickers, one great RB who is often injured, a couple of above average starters and absolutely no depth at most positions (e.g. QB, RB, OL, TE, LB, CB).  Added to that are first-time HC and DC, and a journeyman OC (although I think Knapp takes more criticism than he deserves).</p>
<p>Frankly, I think the team needs to be blown up.  I&#8217;d trade anyone over 25 for picks and start fresh&#8230; BTW, why do think every new player is on a 1y deal?</p>
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		<title>By: purvisman</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 21:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: DJ Johnny</title>
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		<dc:creator>DJ Johnny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 19:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys say &quot;rebuilding&quot; to exempt Reggie from any responsibility if the 8-8 team he took over does not do anything this yr.

Shoot, he&#039;s got a free pass w/ u guys.

Does it make u feel better to say we&#039;re &quot;rebuilding&quot; cuz it eases the sting of losing?

Why is everyone so quick to absolve the new regime from any responsibility of taking this team to the playoffs when they were so close last yr.?

Must be nice for Reggie to not have to worry about any expectations from the fan base.

&quot;Awww Reggie, we understand...Al Davis left you with such a mess with those 2 consecutive 8-8 seasons.  After all, you had to get rid of a few unproductive players and all. Yeah we know you still have the best running back in the league and your all pro DE and MOST ALL of the same starters who were a defensive stop away from the division...We feel for you Reg.  Al Davis left you with nothing but crap. You don&#039;t have to worry about us giving you any pressure&quot;.

Where was all the understanding when Hue Jackson as 1st yr. head coach had his QB go down as well as his best player and top receivers...and was left with a crappy DC that he did not have the luxury of choosing, and yet he STILL managed 8-8?

&quot;It&#039;s ok Reggie..you are rebuilding that horrific mess of a team&quot;.

Yeah, what a &quot;mess&quot; he&#039;s inherited.

Reggie loves u guys cuz u don&#039;t expect schytt from him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys say &#8220;rebuilding&#8221; to exempt Reggie from any responsibility if the 8-8 team he took over does not do anything this yr.</p>
<p>Shoot, he&#8217;s got a free pass w/ u guys.</p>
<p>Does it make u feel better to say we&#8217;re &#8220;rebuilding&#8221; cuz it eases the sting of losing?</p>
<p>Why is everyone so quick to absolve the new regime from any responsibility of taking this team to the playoffs when they were so close last yr.?</p>
<p>Must be nice for Reggie to not have to worry about any expectations from the fan base.</p>
<p>&#8220;Awww Reggie, we understand&#8230;Al Davis left you with such a mess with those 2 consecutive 8-8 seasons.  After all, you had to get rid of a few unproductive players and all. Yeah we know you still have the best running back in the league and your all pro DE and MOST ALL of the same starters who were a defensive stop away from the division&#8230;We feel for you Reg.  Al Davis left you with nothing but crap. You don&#8217;t have to worry about us giving you any pressure&#8221;.</p>
<p>Where was all the understanding when Hue Jackson as 1st yr. head coach had his QB go down as well as his best player and top receivers&#8230;and was left with a crappy DC that he did not have the luxury of choosing, and yet he STILL managed 8-8?</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s ok Reggie..you are rebuilding that horrific mess of a team&#8221;.</p>
<p>Yeah, what a &#8220;mess&#8221; he&#8217;s inherited.</p>
<p>Reggie loves u guys cuz u don&#8217;t expect schytt from him.</p>
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		<title>By: MaddenRaiderisadouchebag</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 19:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SnB Offense Defense Specialteams Says: 
September 12th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
You guys have no concept of pay for production.

Wimbley was just a guy. Period.

LOL.

Raiders didn’t miss a beat. I will trade all the “speed &amp; finesse” for someone that just makes plays….like playing his gap and making crisp clean tackles.

He was paid like Demarcus Ware. Give me a break with this revisionism B.S.

Wimbley was a check casher. When someone asked “Give me the top pass rushers” Wimbley was not the 1st name off the list.

Pay for performance. If he wanted to stay at the cap friendly number Reggie GAVE him…then fine….Wimbley is a niche player.

They shoulda re-signed Trevor Scott and they would have gotten the same production

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You apparently have no concept of winning football games. After a QB, the next best thing you can get is a pass-rusher. I could care less about what he is paid. I&#039;d rather have his overpaid salary than Briesel any day of the week. And you still refuse the sight that everyone from last year has played BETTER in this scheme.

Trevor Scott has less sacks in his career than Wimbley had his rookie year.
 
But hey, if we are going by &quot;pay by production&quot; Knapp should be collecting minimum wage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SnB Offense Defense Specialteams Says:<br />
September 12th, 2012 at 12:00 pm<br />
You guys have no concept of pay for production.</p>
<p>Wimbley was just a guy. Period.</p>
<p>LOL.</p>
<p>Raiders didn’t miss a beat. I will trade all the “speed &amp; finesse” for someone that just makes plays….like playing his gap and making crisp clean tackles.</p>
<p>He was paid like Demarcus Ware. Give me a break with this revisionism B.S.</p>
<p>Wimbley was a check casher. When someone asked “Give me the top pass rushers” Wimbley was not the 1st name off the list.</p>
<p>Pay for performance. If he wanted to stay at the cap friendly number Reggie GAVE him…then fine….Wimbley is a niche player.</p>
<p>They shoulda re-signed Trevor Scott and they would have gotten the same production</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>You apparently have no concept of winning football games. After a QB, the next best thing you can get is a pass-rusher. I could care less about what he is paid. I&#8217;d rather have his overpaid salary than Briesel any day of the week. And you still refuse the sight that everyone from last year has played BETTER in this scheme.</p>
<p>Trevor Scott has less sacks in his career than Wimbley had his rookie year.</p>
<p>But hey, if we are going by &#8220;pay by production&#8221; Knapp should be collecting minimum wage.</p>
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		<title>By: MaddenRaiderisadouchebag</title>
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		<dc:creator>MaddenRaiderisadouchebag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 19:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RaiderDebo Says: 
September 12th, 2012 at 11:56 am
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 11:17 am
Wimbley is the quintessential 1-game wonder. We coulda used him against a UFA LT…unfortunately that would be all from him for the rest of the season.
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Absolute garbage.

Criticize KW for being weak against the run and poor in pass coverage, all you want. Those are valid critiques.

Guy was the best pass rusher on the team and applied plenty of pressures even if his sack numbers were down last season.

Busted his ass and always hustled.

That ‘one game wonder’ stuff is only repeated by people that don’t know jacksht about the game.
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Damn good post! Wimbley is a badass! The sheep that think we got a better player in Wheeler to “replace” him have absolutely no clue what they’re talking about. We needed a body at OLB and picked the dude up off the street. For the stat geeks, Wimbley gets killed on this board because 4 of his 7 sacks last year came in one game against a “backup” LT (anybody on our team replicate that performance on Monday night against the rookie, UDFA, “backup” LT for SD??). Wheeler has been in the league since 2008 and has 2.5 sacks and ZERO interceptions in his entire career!! There are clowns on this board who have actually called Wheeler an upgrade!! Hilarious!

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agreed, I like Wheeler, but he is a coverage LB. Wimbley should be a pass-rushing DE. End of story....And he also had 1 sack post-Breshnahan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RaiderDebo Says:<br />
September 12th, 2012 at 11:56 am<br />
RAIDERMAN99 Says:<br />
September 12th, 2012 at 11:17 am<br />
Wimbley is the quintessential 1-game wonder. We coulda used him against a UFA LT…unfortunately that would be all from him for the rest of the season.<br />
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Absolute garbage.</p>
<p>Criticize KW for being weak against the run and poor in pass coverage, all you want. Those are valid critiques.</p>
<p>Guy was the best pass rusher on the team and applied plenty of pressures even if his sack numbers were down last season.</p>
<p>Busted his ass and always hustled.</p>
<p>That ‘one game wonder’ stuff is only repeated by people that don’t know jacksht about the game.<br />
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<p>Damn good post! Wimbley is a badass! The sheep that think we got a better player in Wheeler to “replace” him have absolutely no clue what they’re talking about. We needed a body at OLB and picked the dude up off the street. For the stat geeks, Wimbley gets killed on this board because 4 of his 7 sacks last year came in one game against a “backup” LT (anybody on our team replicate that performance on Monday night against the rookie, UDFA, “backup” LT for SD??). Wheeler has been in the league since 2008 and has 2.5 sacks and ZERO interceptions in his entire career!! There are clowns on this board who have actually called Wheeler an upgrade!! Hilarious!</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>agreed, I like Wheeler, but he is a coverage LB. Wimbley should be a pass-rushing DE. End of story&#8230;.And he also had 1 sack post-Breshnahan.</p>
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		<title>By: DEATHROW 55</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 19:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know Knapp didn&#039;t go to DMAC  and ask our best weapon what&#039;s  your favorite running plays like hue did.  So it&#039;s not Dmac it&#039;s the offensive scheme and I think every raider fan with football knowledge can come up with conclusion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know Knapp didn&#8217;t go to DMAC  and ask our best weapon what&#8217;s  your favorite running plays like hue did.  So it&#8217;s not Dmac it&#8217;s the offensive scheme and I think every raider fan with football knowledge can come up with conclusion.</p>
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		<title>By: Seymour Bush</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 19:01:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KoolKell Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 11:13 am

Yeah, but every year, the last 10 years, Homers are telling us to shut up and be patient.
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I don&#039;t know if I could have an absolute meltdown and advocate the entire team and org walk the plank after week one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KoolKell Says:<br />
September 12th, 2012 at 11:13 am</p>
<p>Yeah, but every year, the last 10 years, Homers are telling us to shut up and be patient.<br />
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<p>I don&#8217;t know if I could have an absolute meltdown and advocate the entire team and org walk the plank after week one.</p>
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		<title>By: RaiderDuck</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 19:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It depends on what you want your OLB to do. If you want a pass rush, Wimbley&#039;s better. If you want your OLB to play the run or cover people, it&#039;s not even close: Wheeler by a mile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It depends on what you want your OLB to do. If you want a pass rush, Wimbley&#8217;s better. If you want your OLB to play the run or cover people, it&#8217;s not even close: Wheeler by a mile.</p>
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		<title>By: SnB offense defense specialteams</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 19:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys have no concept of pay for production.

Wimbley was just a guy.  Period.

LOL.

Raiders didn&#039;t miss a beat.  I will trade all the &quot;speed &amp; finesse&quot; for someone that just makes plays....like playing his gap and making crisp clean tackles.

He was paid like Demarcus Ware.  Give me a break with this revisionism B.S.

Wimbley was a check casher.  When someone asked &quot;Give me the top pass rushers&quot; Wimbley was not the 1st name off the list.

Pay for performance.   If he wanted to stay at the cap friendly number Reggie GAVE him...then fine....Wimbley is a niche player.

They shoulda re-signed Trevor Scott and they would have gotten the same production</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys have no concept of pay for production.</p>
<p>Wimbley was just a guy.  Period.</p>
<p>LOL.</p>
<p>Raiders didn&#8217;t miss a beat.  I will trade all the &#8220;speed &amp; finesse&#8221; for someone that just makes plays&#8230;.like playing his gap and making crisp clean tackles.</p>
<p>He was paid like Demarcus Ware.  Give me a break with this revisionism B.S.</p>
<p>Wimbley was a check casher.  When someone asked &#8220;Give me the top pass rushers&#8221; Wimbley was not the 1st name off the list.</p>
<p>Pay for performance.   If he wanted to stay at the cap friendly number Reggie GAVE him&#8230;then fine&#8230;.Wimbley is a niche player.</p>
<p>They shoulda re-signed Trevor Scott and they would have gotten the same production</p>
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		<title>By: RAIDERMAN99</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 18:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t think Slo had as great a game against SD as the Slo-maniacs are proclaiming, but I think he was solid.

One thing that was evident was that he was fully in charge of the defense. Was impressed by the way he was barking Tarver&#039;s allignments and leading the D between plays.

Nice job by 55.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t think Slo had as great a game against SD as the Slo-maniacs are proclaiming, but I think he was solid.</p>
<p>One thing that was evident was that he was fully in charge of the defense. Was impressed by the way he was barking Tarver&#8217;s allignments and leading the D between plays.</p>
<p>Nice job by 55.</p>
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