Raiders sign long-snapper among six roster moves
By Steve Corkran
Wednesday, September 12th, 2012 at 12:57 pm in Oakland Raiders.
The Raiders signed long-snapper Nick Guess, cornerback Coye Francies and defensive lineman Brandon Bair to their practice squad Wednesday.
In turn, they released wide receiver Brandon Carswell, defensive tackle Vaughn Meatoga and linebacker Nathan Stupar from their practice squad.
It’s possible that the Raiders will wait until later in the week, when they have a better gauge on the status of regular long-snapper Jon Condo (concussion), to decide whether to sign Guess to their 53-man roster.
Guess was released by the San Diego Chargers on Aug. 27, when the Chargers pared their roster to 75 players. He is from the University of Tennessee.
More later, once we speak with coach Dennis Allen after practice.
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September 12th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
PS got better today, in my opinion.
I like Bair a lot. Solid developmental 3-4 DE prospect.
September 12th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
Sign Knapp to PS
September 12th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
Klas Nation 2012 representing!
September 12th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
turd
September 12th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
67.ArmChair GM Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 11:15 am
Goldie7 Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 10:56 am
AC GM….I’m giving Knapps one more chance Sunday….if we lose Sunday you can add me to the list. I’m trying to give him 1 more chance…it’s killin me though.
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I respect your opinion Goldie. I just keep thinking back to last year. What if Bresnehan had been replaced right after his debacle in Buffalo???
Our season might very well have had a story book ending!
8-8 will not win the division this year with Peyton Manning looking like Superman again in Denver.
We were Top 10 in scoring last season…without Mcfadden!
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Yep….I totally agree with ya AC GM…100%. Sorry about delay…I was away from my computer.
September 12th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
Thanks for all updates Cork!
September 12th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
What if Bresnehan had been replaced right after his debacle in Buffalo???
Our season might very well have had a story book ending!
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This is the reasoning of someone who doesn’t understand what they’re talking about.
September 12th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
Busy day….thanks Steve!
September 12th, 2012 at 1:06 pm
MaddenRaiderisadouchebag Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 12:59 pm
Nobody had less rushing yards than the Giants last year. Green Bay was 24th the year before. In 2009, The Saints had a top 10 attack that was fueled by their passing attack which was higher. The Steelers were 23rd in rushing yards in 2008. You still think it’s the most important thing on defense is to stop the run in today’s NFL?
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Yes. Teams will take what you give them, and passing is risky. If you give them 5 yards a carry, they’ll happily run it up the gut game after game on you. These teams developed their great passing offenses BECAUSE so many teams were loading up against the run. Doesn’t mean they won’t run it if we let them.
September 12th, 2012 at 1:06 pm
I got a trade proposal:
He wants CJ2K I get Brandon Marshall
September 12th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
Raider Nation is blue / oh what’s a Cholo to do / his team plays like crap / they can’t make a long snap / and Greg Knapp’s offense is meh
September 12th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
PM PARTY PATROL N THE HIZZY
Yo just started watching The Dictator on the 91′ plasma. I’d let Anna Farris ride the Beeech Lawg even with that bowl cut.
Don’t excited, KrappyRat. This does NOT open the door for KrappyWife.
Just keeping it real
September 12th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
I knew we were in trouble the moment we agreed to Knapp as OC. Most of you did. The chances we ditch him and implement a new system are next to none right? Or can Saunders tweek it a little and adapt it to our offensive personnel?
September 12th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
Im thinkin those ‘Knapp is Krap’ bumper stickers and t-shirts might be a hot item now too! I guess I’d better get to work…
September 12th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
10.r8eray Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 1:06 pm
I got a trade proposal:
He wants CJ2K I get Brandon Marshall
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I would do it. What are your other backs? Did you see Cutler is locked on Marshall almost every play passing play.
September 12th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
PM PARTY PATROL N THE HIZZY
Yo just started watching The Dictator on the 91′ plasma. I’d let Anna Farris ride the Beeech Lawg even with that bowl cut.
Don’t excited, KrappyRat. This does NOT open the door for KrappyWife.
Just keeping it real
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ouch
September 12th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
Meanwhile, the Duck-Raider connection is renewed, and we see if the #3 ranked long-snapper in the draft is any good.
September 12th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
Raider4Life209 Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
I knew we were in trouble the moment we agreed to Knapp as OC. Most of you did. The chances we ditch him and implement a new system are next to none right? Or can Saunders tweek it a little and adapt it to our offensive personnel?
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I would hope Saunders has some input on the gameplan this week. Dennis Allen should INSIST we get more aggressive in our play-calling after Monday night. Saunders has a wealth of knowledge that Knapp should utilize.
September 12th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
the passing game/knapps offense/DHB/CP will look MUCH better with DMoore is back to being DMoore
September 12th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
Yesterday was Pretty shocking to hear guys like Romo and Rod Woodson even papa saying how this system doesnt fit these offensive players. Woodson said he saw DMAC upclose last year and he is a Champ but the ZBS doesnt fit him. Romo said Dmac is a north south runner and is a tack stud.. he needs to find the hole and go.. not this cut back and change zbs. Papa agreed and said Mr. Davis didnt like it at all.
Woodson said players love habit so its gonna take a while for them to change to this system. Im willing to give Knapp one more chance go air it deep this week.
September 12th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
Romo said dmac is a Track stud *
September 12th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
Guys that know me, know I am not a combative poster but I’m having trouble understanding this.
You guys say “rebuilding” to exempt Reggie from any responsibility if the 8-8 team he took over does not do anything this yr.
Shoot, he’s got a free pass w/ u guys.
Why is everyone so quick to absolve the new regime from any responsibility of taking this team to the playoffs when they were so close last yr.?
Must be nice for Reggie to not have to worry about any expectations from the fan base.
“Awww Reggie, we understand…Al Davis left you with such a mess with those 2 consecutive 8-8 seasons. After all, you had to get rid of a few unproductive players and all. Yeah we know you still have the best running back in the league and your all pro DE and MOST ALL of the same starters who were a defensive stop away from the division…We feel for you Reg. Al Davis left you with nothing but crap. You don’t have to worry about us giving you any pressure”.
Where was all the understanding when Hue Jackson as 1st yr. head coach had his QB go down as well as his best player and top receivers…and was left with a crappy DC that he did not have the luxury of choosing, and yet he STILL managed 8-8?
“It’s ok Reggie..you are rebuilding that horrific mess of a team”.
Yeah, what a “mess” he’s inherited.
Reggie loves u guys cuz u don’t expect schytt from him.
September 12th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
monday nights debacle was karma for all the bloggers ridiculing the importance of Condo
September 12th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
lmfao!
Tripucka got a little over excited me thinks, the dope must have seen the punt snapping debacle on his tee vee and figured he already had the job.
September 12th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
inonewordraider Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
monday nights debacle was karma for all the bloggers ridiculing the importance of Condo
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I’m looking straight at you BSJ, you no show.
September 12th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
R8drinOK Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
Raider4Life209 Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
I knew we were in trouble the moment we agreed to Knapp as OC. Most of you did. The chances we ditch him and implement a new system are next to none right? Or can Saunders tweek it a little and adapt it to our offensive personnel?
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I would hope Saunders has some input on the gameplan this week. Dennis Allen should INSIST we get more aggressive in our play-calling after Monday night. Saunders has a wealth of knowledge that Knapp should utilize.
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I assumed that was the reason they kept Saunders around. Now my assumption has changed to hope.
September 12th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
Week 2 will tell alot about how the rest of this season will playout IMO
September 12th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
The Cowboys just signed LeQuan Lewis…we waived him Aug. 24. The Jets signed Lewis to their practice squad Sept. 5 and was released Sept. 11. The Cowboys are saying….they found a pro bowler CB. I thought Reggie said he wouldn’t waive players that could one day be pro bowlers. I dunno Man….I dunno.
September 12th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
DJ Johnny,
Reggie and company know they have to win soon. But the reality of the situation is that anytime you change the management…you are going to get change in the system.
Reggie came from the Green Bay system, so he’s going to probably take what he learned their and put his spin on it. But it means WCO and developing talent to fit that system and getting coaches that believe it.
He doesn’t have forever, but I bet he’s got 3 to 4 years to show something.
The past is irrelevant. Reggie is not going to tie himself to someone elses plan.
I am sure he shared this with Mark and others during hiring process.
If Mark wanted to continue Al Davis and Hue Jackson’s program, Mark would have hired a GM that would work well with Hue.
But he didn’t.
September 12th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
10.r8eray Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 1:06 pm
I got a trade proposal:
He wants CJ2K I get Brandon Marshall
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I would do it. What are your other backs? Did you see Cutler is locked on Marshall almost every play passing play.
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I’m loaded…it’s a 10 team league PPR.
I had the 9th overall pick and came up on DMC in the 1st, CJ in the 2nd and AP in the 3rd!
September 12th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
Why is everyone so quick to absolve the new regime from any responsibility of taking this team to the playoffs when they were so close last yr.?
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We were only “close” last year because our division was a hot flipping mess.
We were nowhere close to a Wild Card. We needed to win only 2 of the last 5 games of the season, or the two homes games left on scheudle, and we went 1-4.
September 12th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
Guys that know me, know I am not a combative poster but I’m having trouble understanding this.
You guys say “rebuilding” to exempt Reggie from any responsibility if the 8-8 team he took over does not do anything this yr.
Shoot, he’s got a free pass w/ u guys.
Why is everyone so quick to absolve the new regime from any responsibility of taking this team to the playoffs when they were so close last yr.?
Must be nice for Reggie to not have to worry about any expectations from the fan base.
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There’s a certain type/group of fans in here, who won’t hold anybody accountable for the Raiders performances on Sundays, EXCEPT, other fans, media commentators, Warren Sapp, Rich Gannon. Never the Raiders themselves.
September 12th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
Goldie7 Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
The Cowboys just signed LeQuan Lewis…we waived him Aug. 24. The Jets signed Lewis to their practice squad Sept. 5 and was released Sept. 11. The Cowboys are saying….they found a pro bowler CB. I thought Reggie said he wouldn’t waive players that could one day be pro bowlers. I dunno Man….I dunno.
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Riiiight. He’s a Pro Bowl corner…who was cut by two teams in as many weeks.
September 12th, 2012 at 1:28 pm
12.The Beeech Dawg Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
PM PARTY PATROL N THE HIZZY
Yo just started watching The Dictator on the 91′ plasma. I’d let Anna Farris ride the Beeech Lawg even with that bowl cut.
Don’t excited, KrappyRat. This does NOT open the door for KrappyWife.
Just keeping it real
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Hey Beeech that’s a large tv Man…is it 3D too?
September 12th, 2012 at 1:28 pm
There’s a certain type/group of fans in here, who won’t hold anybody accountable for the Raiders performances on Sundays, EXCEPT, other fans, media commentators, Warren Sapp, Rich Gannon. Never the Raiders themselves.
Year after year after fking year.
September 12th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
Raider4Life209 Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
R8drinOK Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
Raider4Life209 Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
I knew we were in trouble the moment we agreed to Knapp as OC. Most of you did. The chances we ditch him and implement a new system are next to none right? Or can Saunders tweek it a little and adapt it to our offensive personnel?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I would hope Saunders has some input on the gameplan this week. Dennis Allen should INSIST we get more aggressive in our play-calling after Monday night. Saunders has a wealth of knowledge that Knapp should utilize.
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I assumed that was the reason they kept Saunders around. Now my assumption has changed to hope.
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Dennis Allen isn’t stupid, no way we see a repeat of Monday. When he was with the Saint’s his secondary practiced against Drew Brees for crying out loud. He knows you can’t win being ultra conservative.
September 12th, 2012 at 1:30 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
Guys that know me, know I am not a combative poster but I’m having trouble understanding this.
You guys say “rebuilding” to exempt Reggie from any responsibility if the 8-8 team he took over does not do anything this yr.
Shoot, he’s got a free pass w/ u guys.
Why is everyone so quick to absolve the new regime from any responsibility of taking this team to the playoffs when they were so close last yr.?
Must be nice for Reggie to not have to worry about any expectations from the fan base.
“Awww Reggie, we understand…Al Davis left you with such a mess with those 2 consecutive 8-8 seasons. After all, you had to get rid of a few unproductive players and all. Yeah we know you still have the best running back in the league and your all pro DE and MOST ALL of the same starters who were a defensive stop away from the division…We feel for you Reg. Al Davis left you with nothing but crap. You don’t have to worry about us giving you any pressure”.
Where was all the understanding when Hue Jackson as 1st yr. head coach had his QB go down as well as his best player and top receivers…and was left with a crappy DC that he did not have the luxury of choosing, and yet he STILL managed 8-8?
“It’s ok Reggie..you are rebuilding that horrific mess of a team”.
Yeah, what a “mess” he’s inherited.
Reggie loves u guys cuz u don’t expect schytt from him.
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He’s not getting absolved of anything. We’re just not the kind of short-sighted simpletons who think the solution to losing ONE GAME is firing two coordinators. We’re not like children who can’t wait until Christmas morning, and want Reggie to transform the Raiders into a contender NOW NOW NOW because quite frankly, they weren’t even contenders before.
Moreover, we know what it takes to actually build a franchise. The Raiders had to shed over $20 million in salary, which resulted in contributors like Routt, Wimbley, Bush, Boss, and Satele leaving. They had to change the culture entirely, starting with ingraining in these players the kind of discipline it takes to be successful in the NFL – and for many of these players, this was the first time they’ve been exposed to that.
McKenzie had to hire a head coach that could get that message across effectively – and since he operates as a real GM does, he let the head coach choose assistants that he thought he could work with.
This is a project, and not an easy one.
I get it, you’re sick of the Raiders losing. We ALL are. But this is how a real franchise operates. It’s going to take a while to set this team up so they can be successful long-term, not just for one or two years.
The state the organization was before McKenzie took over was not sustainable in any way, nor was Hue Jackson qualified to make sense of that mess.
September 12th, 2012 at 1:30 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
Week 2 will tell alot about how the rest of this season will playout IMO
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Against Miami??? Really?? Maybe Wk 3 vs Pittsburgh or Wk 4 @ Denver, but not Miami
September 12th, 2012 at 1:31 pm
Man im just tired of having players that make the same mistakes. Kelly keeping those drives going. I remember last year we had the pats on a 3 n out.. and Kelly i believe jumps offsides or might have been seymour.
Either way it extends the drive.. and Brady goes for 7 down the field. SMH
September 12th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
More truth from YoungAmerican post 37
September 12th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
33.RaiderDuck Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
Goldie7 Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
The Cowboys just signed LeQuan Lewis…we waived him Aug. 24. The Jets signed Lewis to their practice squad Sept. 5 and was released Sept. 11. The Cowboys are saying….they found a pro bowler CB. I thought Reggie said he wouldn’t waive players that could one day be pro bowlers. I dunno Man….I dunno.
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Riiiight. He’s a Pro Bowl corner…who was cut by two teams in as many weeks.
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Duck, the Cowboys fans are saying Lequan wasn’t given a chance and he will fit superbly in Rob Ryans D. Cowboys fans are also asking…didn’t we need help on Special Teams? lol
September 12th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
Against Miami??? Really?? Maybe Wk 3 vs Pittsburgh or Wk 4 @ Denver, but not Miami
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Yes the reason I say that is because we are going up against a team that is in somewhat a rebuild mode as well. Rookie qb. If the raiders dont play well.. what makes you think we are gonna go against Ptt, falcons, broncos etc. We have had one week to look at game film. So if you dont notice some changes on the offense like taking shots down field.. not dinkin / stinking then it most likely wont change.
September 12th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
I feel like the coaches are idiots. If u know a scheme doesn’t fit a guy especially ur best player. Then u build ur team around what that guy does best. Why in the heell would we hire Knapp
Use his ZBS knowing it doesn’t fit.
“If it doesn’t fit u must acquit” the ZBS scheme
Huey is laughing his arse off rite now.
Dumbest move made so far by New regime.
How can one man be so ass backwards
September 12th, 2012 at 1:34 pm
R8drinOK Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
Raider4Life209 Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
R8drinOK Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
Raider4Life209 Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
I knew we were in trouble the moment we agreed to Knapp as OC. Most of you did. The chances we ditch him and implement a new system are next to none right? Or can Saunders tweek it a little and adapt it to our offensive personnel?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I would hope Saunders has some input on the gameplan this week. Dennis Allen should INSIST we get more aggressive in our play-calling after Monday night. Saunders has a wealth of knowledge that Knapp should utilize.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I assumed that was the reason they kept Saunders around. Now my assumption has changed to hope.
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Dennis Allen isn’t stupid, no way we see a repeat of Monday. When he was with the Saint’s his secondary practiced against Drew Brees for crying out loud. He knows you can’t win being ultra conservative.
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Monday Night was embarrassing to say the least…for the Nation as a whole. I hope you’re right, ’cause somethings gotta change—and fast.
September 12th, 2012 at 1:34 pm
The 91 incher has 3D capabilities but the Beeech Dawg hates wearing shades unless they’re Pradas
I watched Avatar with the regular movie glasses and my nads ached for a week
Can’t afford to let the ladies down, if you know what I am talking about*
*I’m talking about using my weiner and nads to perform intercourse on them
September 12th, 2012 at 1:34 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 1:31 pm
Man im just tired of having players that make the same mistakes. Kelly keeping those drives going. I remember last year we had the pats on a 3 n out.. and Kelly i believe jumps offsides or might have been seymour.
Either way it extends the drive.. and Brady goes for 7 down the field. SMH
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Seymour had an inexplicable late hit and slam into the turf on Tom Brady that took a 3rd and forever into an auto 1st down.
DA and company will 1st take snaps away from penalites and dumb miscues (see Taiwan Jones), then if they still don’t get it…they will put them on the road
September 12th, 2012 at 1:34 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 1:28 pm
There’s a certain type/group of fans in here, who won’t hold anybody accountable for the Raiders performances on Sundays, EXCEPT, other fans, media commentators, Warren Sapp, Rich Gannon. Never the Raiders themselves.
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As opposed to you the last 5 years on here, who wouldn’t hold anybody accountable other than Al Davis.
September 12th, 2012 at 1:35 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 1:30 pm
He’s not getting absolved of anything. We’re just not the kind of short-sighted simpletons who think the solution to losing ONE GAME is firing two coordinators. We’re not like children who can’t wait until Christmas morning, and want Reggie to transform the Raiders into a contender NOW NOW NOW because quite frankly, they weren’t even contenders before.
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Childish simpletons? really?
September 12th, 2012 at 1:35 pm
Nation willing to give Reggie and Allen a break because they are real GM and coach. We haven’t had that in a while. It is like scrapping your broke down 1981 Honda in exchange for a new 2012 Hyundai.
September 12th, 2012 at 1:35 pm
I don’t understand this notion Hue is laughing his azz off.
In case you didn’t see it, his DB’s he was hired on to coach, failed more miserably than our offense did on Monday.
September 12th, 2012 at 1:36 pm
Childish simpletons? really?
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When people are calling for the heads of the entire organization over one loss? That’s exactly what it is.
September 12th, 2012 at 1:36 pm
I’m new here, so sorry for the long reposts…do I just trim the convo down? Is that how you semi’s do it?
September 12th, 2012 at 1:36 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 1:30 pm
He’s not getting absolved of anything. We’re just not the kind of short-sighted simpletons who think the solution to losing ONE GAME is firing two coordinators.
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Who in here advocates firing 2 coordinators?
September 12th, 2012 at 1:36 pm
Man im just tired of having players that make the same mistakes. Kelly keeping those drives going. I remember last year we had the pats on a 3 n out.. and Kelly i believe jumps offsides or might have been seymour.
Either way it extends the drive.. and Brady goes for 7 down the field. SMH
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Remember during the fan day attendance during camp? Kelly was getting heckled by onlookers because he was jumping offsides at practice?
When questioned, DA said he never considered benching TK during the game…..HUH? I guess Tommy’s just gonna NOT do it anymore. He’ll just get discipline on Wednesday. Same trends, same mistakes….. DA said it all when he defined “insanity”
September 12th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
Huey is laughing his arse off rite now.
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Nope, he is currently watching the footwork of some 2nd string cornerback of the Bengals
September 12th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 1:36 pm
Childish simpletons? really?
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When people are calling for the heads of the entire organization over one loss? That’s exactly what it is.
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Its cause they care more about the Raiders, and are just bigger Raider fans than us YA..
*wanking motion*
September 12th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 1:36 pm
Childish simpletons? really?
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When people are calling for the heads of the entire organization over one loss? That’s exactly what it is.
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Name ONE poster advocating that?
September 12th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
Who in here advocates firing 2 coordinators?
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Did you see the posts from last night? Night crowd keeps getting dumber, I guess.
Armchair GM’s still up to it this morning, among others.
September 12th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
Didn’t we have a Sunday afternoon game against Green Bay last year, that probably had higher rating than a game that started at 10:30 PM EST on a Monday, that we embarassed ourselves much more so than Monday night?
At least we competed on Monday. We flat mailed it in at times last year.
September 12th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
Bring hue back as OC. This yr. Like by the next game. Let him call plays an we will be top five in every phase of the game. Long ad we stick with Knapp azz we will struggle
Print that!!
September 12th, 2012 at 1:39 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
Against Miami??? Really?? Maybe Wk 3 vs Pittsburgh or Wk 4 @ Denver, but not Miami
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Yes the reason I say that is because we are going up against a team that is in somewhat a rebuild mode as well. Rookie qb. If the raiders dont play well.. what makes you think we are gonna go against Ptt, falcons, broncos etc. We have had one week to look at game film. So if you dont notice some changes on the offense like taking shots down field.. not dinkin / stinking then it most likely wont change.
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Touché…you have a point I suppose. I just felt that I wouldn’t be impressed with a win in Miami being that it seems like a given, but when you put it that way, it makes sense.
September 12th, 2012 at 1:39 pm
Dj. Whos our all pro de?? Id like to see him play
September 12th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
Ahhhh shuck…put me on the that list AC GM. I’m not waiting. Darn.
September 12th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
Chris in NY, ArmChair, RaidO, Debo, DKnight… I could go on.
September 12th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
This is right about the time where KrappyRat wets himself, takes a quick nap in the kiddie pool, then heads off in the wrong direction for the gym
Poor old fool deserves a break, he’s had a long, rough day of blogging
Just keeping it real Beeech Diggity Style (patent pending on that sweet phrase)
September 12th, 2012 at 1:41 pm
honestly reggie is gonna build this org back up. Just sucks for him because the Raiders have been losing for a long azz time. So when we see Knapps candy azz calling plays it brings us back to that 07 time.
Bottom line is yes its just one game on monday. But us Raider fans are tired of losing and not using our players to full use.
September 12th, 2012 at 1:41 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
Didn’t we have a Sunday afternoon game against Green Bay last year, that probably had higher rating than a game that started at 10:30 PM EST on a Monday, that we embarassed ourselves much more so than Monday night?
At least we competed on Monday. We flat mailed it in at times last year.
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The Raiders were sometihng like 7-5 going to Green Bay who was leading. Resurgence of Raiders and the Carson buzz vs. an old school franchise like Green BAy.
The Raiders mailed it in by then. Getting absolutely creamated on tv and embarassing themselves to no end.
Then followed up the next week with anoher epic fail against Miami….then somewhere in there was the Tebow resurrection
September 12th, 2012 at 1:41 pm
Thursday, September 13, 2012, 7 pm-10:30pm
SaveOaklandSports Celebration & Inaugural Fundraiser
Ricky’s Sports Theatre and Grill, 15028 Hesperian Boulevard, San Leandro. Fundraiser for stadium construction and/or community projects for Oakland sports teams. Tickets and information:www.saveoaklandsports.org.
Former Raiders John Vella, Kenny Shedd, & Sam Williams will be in attendence. Raffle Prizes include Raiders & A’s game tickets, rounds of golf @ Lake Chabot, Metero, & Sequoia golf courses in Oakland, wines, free meals @ Oakland & San Leandro restrants, Free night stays & 7 days of parking @ Hotels near the Oakland Air Port & lots of Raiders Gear! Guest Speakers & a DJ. Watch Thursday Night Football & support Save Oakland Sports @ Ricky’s Sports Theatre and Grill tomorrow night!
September 12th, 2012 at 1:41 pm
45.The Beeech Dawg Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 1:34 pm
The 91 incher has 3D capabilities but the Beeech Dawg hates wearing shades unless they’re Pradas
I watched Avatar with the regular movie glasses and my nads ached for a week
Can’t afford to let the ladies down, if you know what I am talking about*
*I’m talking about using my weiner and nads to perform intercourse on them
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Whut? lol
September 12th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
As far as the dink and dunk, I think that was more on Palmer read’s than Knapp play-calling.
If everybody were running short routes, than you would have seen them in the picture when we dumped it off to McFadden, but almost everytime he was the only Raider within 10 yards.
Palmer tried to go deep twice by my count, and DHB ran the wrong route and STreater dropped the other.
September 12th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
There’s a certain type/group of fans in here, who won’t hold anybody accountable for the Raiders performances on Sundays, EXCEPT, other fans, media commentators, Warren Sapp, Rich Gannon. Never the Oakland Raiders themselves.
Year after year after fking year.
September 12th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
r8dercain Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
Bring hue back as OC. This yr.
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More posts from people who don’t understand how successful organizations got there.
Hint: it doesn’t happen by firing coordinators and scrapping schemes after one loss.
September 12th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
38.Raider4Life209 Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 1:30 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
Week 2 will tell alot about how the rest of this season will playout IMO
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Against Miami??? Really?? Maybe Wk 3 vs Pittsburgh or Wk 4 @ Denver, but not Miami
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I appreciate this post, but the reason Miami is such a determining factor in how the season plays out is IF we lose this game we’re 0-2 with Pittsburgh and Denver waiting in the wings.
What chance do u think we have of beating either of them if we can’t take care of Miami?
We will be big underdogs in both Pitt and Denver games and rightfully so.
Lose to Miami and we almost certainly are looking at 0-4 and the season is lost.
Now, on the flip, if we DO beat Miami and lose to Pitt and Denver, then 1-3 still has us with a chance…in a way.
So it really comes down to this: Lose to Miami and we are toast for this season..imo.
September 12th, 2012 at 1:43 pm
Not saying hue is the answer to all BUT his scheme worked better
That we know for sure!!
Defense is better so if we kept the same offense I feel like we would be 1-0
Argue me that point. Fellow bloggers
September 12th, 2012 at 1:43 pm
I advocate firing or demoting 2 cordinators…. but not cause of one game… knapps a bad choice. And hoffmans just bad..
September 12th, 2012 at 1:44 pm
Glad to see that brought Coye back…if that kid gets another shot, I’m sure he’ll make the most of it. Solid player; just a knucklehead…
September 12th, 2012 at 1:44 pm
*they brought
September 12th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
There’s a certain type/group of fans in here, who think they’re smarter than everyone else, who won’t hold anybody accountable for the Raiders performances on Sundays, EXCEPT, other fans, media commentators, Warren Sapp, Rich Gannon. Never the Oakland Raiders themselves.
Year after year after fking year.
September 12th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
Defense is better so if we kept the same offense I feel like we would be 1-0
Argue me that point. Fellow bloggers
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Easy.
With Hue as HC, we would not have had access to top-flight up and coming Defensive minded guys like Tarver and DA.
Hue would have brought in the DC equivalent of TJ Houshwhatever or Carson Palmer. Some over-the-hill guy he has been buddies with somewhere else.
September 12th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
Marks hair Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 1:43 pm
I advocate firing or demoting 2 cordinators…. but not cause of one game… knapps a bad choice. And hoffmans just bad..
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Name one team who fired two coordinators mid-season (or for that matter, after ONE GAME), and ended the season with a winning record?
Teams work their butts off to implement schemes in the offseason. Should they just hire someone new and figure it out as they go along? Sounds like one hell of a plan right there.
September 12th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
More posts from people who don’t understand how successful organizations got there.
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There’s a certain type/group of fans in here, who think they’re smarter than everyone else, who won’t hold anybody accountable for the Raiders performances on Sundays, EXCEPT, other fans, media commentators, Warren Sapp, Rich Gannon. Never the Oakland Raiders themselves.
Year after year after fking year.
September 12th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
Last time we pulled the plug on Knapp calling plays mid-season, didn’t we get statistical worse the rest of the season?
September 12th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
DJ. Whos the allpro de on our team? Did young seymour pop out of a time machine?
September 12th, 2012 at 1:48 pm
Is TJ Housh still in the league?
September 12th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
80. Let saunders adjust our offense. He isnt new
Let a cheerleader coach the teams… anybody could do better
September 12th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
There’s a certain type/group of fans in here, who think they’re smarter than everyone else, who won’t hold anybody accountable for the Raiders performances on Sundays, EXCEPT, other fans, media commentators, Warren Sapp, Rich Gannon. Never the Oakland Raiders themselves.
Year after year after fking year.
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Kell, you’ve seen me post enough to see specifically who I’ve been critical of on this team, year after year. Players and coaches and owner/GMs alike. Don’t be a clown.
September 12th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
Raider4Life209 Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 1:34 pm
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I would hope Saunders has some input on the gameplan this week. Dennis Allen should INSIST we get more aggressive in our play-calling after Monday night. Saunders has a wealth of knowledge that Knapp should utilize.
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I assumed that was the reason they kept Saunders around. Now my assumption has changed to hope.
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Dennis Allen isn’t stupid, no way we see a repeat of Monday. When he was with the Saint’s his secondary practiced against Drew Brees for crying out loud. He knows you can’t win being ultra conservative.
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Monday Night was embarrassing to say the least…for the Nation as a whole. I hope you’re right, ’cause somethings gotta change—and fast.
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I hear ya man…having Wiz and DMoore will help as well.
September 12th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 1:48 pm
Is TJ Housh still in the league?
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Not until Hue Jackson gets another HC job.
September 12th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
There’s a certain type/group of old goat in here, who keeps posting the same lame post over and over again, all while trying to troll politics, international travel, or his own shiny red corvette.
Year after year after fking year.
September 12th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
Young American
Have u ever heard the saying. If it ain’t broke don’t fix it.
I’m fully aware of how good orgs got there. Not by fixing what aint broke.
I’m willing to ser what Knapp can’t do. But I already saw it before
An the best offensive player sucked in this scheme already.
Or are u a new booty “young’ kid who probably has only been watching football with an understanding for a few yrs now.
Me I’m an OG. Bern around for a very long time. An IMO
There was no need to change the offensive scheme. PERIOD
September 12th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
82. Replaced by cable?
September 12th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
72.YoungAmerican Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
r8dercain Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
Bring hue back as OC. This yr.
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More posts from people who don’t understand how successful organizations got there.
Hint: it doesn’t happen by firing coordinators and scrapping schemes after one loss.
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..but….good organizations don’t shy away from making the bold decisions that need to be made when it’s obvious things they are doing aren’t working.
Knapp was a mistake from the start. A horrible one.
I don’t think it is out of order to keep the guy as the OC but…give playcalling duties to the more experienced Saunders.
Knapp does not have a great history of success in which to merit unyielding trust.
Saunders is on staff right now. What is wrong with utilizing him more?
September 12th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
Hey old Kell,…instead of the high blood pressure meds and Viagra you take hourly, I think maybe you poppin too many thorazines by mistake,…unless you meant to repost that same bit every ten minutes,..get well soon old fool.
September 12th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
Listen we can complain all day every day Knapp is going nowhere, they will not dump him until e d of season if at all, so stop it!
I personally made my feelings known, it was a poorly called game, Knapp was out coached.
I want to see some vertical stuff thrown in, even in Houston Andre Johnson had vertical plays his way.
I still think we should sign plaxico
Ir ford
Ir bartell or just flat cut him with injury settlement
No chad Johnson, he is done
September 12th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
Kell, you’ve seen me post enough to see specifically who I’ve been critical of on this team, year after year. Players and coaches and owner/GMs alike. Don’t be a clown.
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You’re the one being a clown. Generalizing critics of game 1, Knapps scheme & playcalling want to fire both coordinators.
September 12th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
Its a moneyball season to tide us over while we rebuild….
September 12th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
82. Replaced by cable?
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Grass isn’t alwasy greener is it?
If DA hired Knapp to begin with, whose to say he wouldn’t replace him with someone worse?
September 12th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
Do you know what this place will be like if we lose on sun?? lol
September 12th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
83.Marks hair Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
DJ. Whos the allpro de on our team? Did young seymour pop out of a time machine?
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He DID make the pro bowl last yr.
I’ve been on Seymour myself so i’m not gonna defend him as this world beater. Just saying that this team is not devoid of some talented players.
September 12th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
September 10th, 2012 at 5:20 pm
Hope our special teams is ready tonight, wouldn’t want that being the cause of us getting behind or losing the game. Momentum killer as well…
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One of my last couple of posts leading up to the game. Although I would have liked to see more of a pass rush, our defense played well and kept us in the game. Offense wasn’t even vanilla, it was bland…Most of the posters in here would have put up more points if they were the offensive coordinator.
Still love my Raiders.
September 12th, 2012 at 1:55 pm
Hue probably had to go. But his scheme should have stayed. Just like they did in SF
Fired singletary but kept his scheme.
September 12th, 2012 at 1:55 pm
r8dercain Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
Young American
Have u ever heard the saying. If it ain’t broke don’t fix it.
I’m fully aware of how good orgs got there. Not by fixing what aint broke.
I’m willing to ser what Knapp can’t do. But I already saw it before
An the best offensive player sucked in this scheme already.
Or are u a new booty “young’ kid who probably has only been watching football with an understanding for a few yrs now.
Me I’m an OG. Bern around for a very long time. An IMO
There was no need to change the offensive scheme. PERIOD
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But there was a need for a new GM, and thus a coaching change.
Would I have liked to see Saunders as the OC? Sure. But that’s not my call, and that’s not McKenzie’s call. It’s Dennis Allen’s. He’s the head coach, and real organizations let the head coaches choose their staff.
If Knapp doesn’t get the job done, he’ll be out of here. But tell me – when has a coordinator been fired and his scheme scrapped mid-season, and the team ended with a winning record?
September 12th, 2012 at 1:55 pm
YA,
Always enjoy reading your posts, mayne!
Don’t always agree with you, but your points are solid.
September 12th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
You’re the one being a clown. Generalizing critics of game 1, Knapps scheme & playcalling want to fire both coordinators.
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I already specifically named several posters who are advocating that.
September 12th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
J Hill Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 1:55 pm
YA,
Always enjoy reading your posts, mayne!
Don’t always agree with you, but your points are solid.
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Likewise, J.
September 12th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
38.Raider4Life209 Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 1:30 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
Week 2 will tell alot about how the rest of this season will playout IMO
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Against Miami??? Really?? Maybe Wk 3 vs Pittsburgh or Wk 4 @ Denver, but not Miami
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I appreciate this post, but the reason Miami is such a determining factor in how the season plays out is IF we lose this game we’re 0-2 with Pittsburgh and Denver waiting in the wings.
What chance do u think we have of beating either of them if we can’t take care of Miami?
We will be big underdogs in both Pitt and Denver games and rightfully so.
Lose to Miami and we almost certainly are looking at 0-4 and the season is lost.
Now, on the flip, if we DO beat Miami and lose to Pitt and Denver, then 1-3 still has us with a chance…in a way.
So it really comes down to this: Lose to Miami and we are toast for this season..imo.
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Yes, as I said before, I guess I figured Miami seems like a given, and thought a win vs. Steelers or Denver would be more telling. But you’re both right…A loss this weekend would prove deadly.
September 12th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
There’s a certain type/group of fans in here, who lecture “lesser” Raider fans on patience for the last frigging decade.
As if the Fans here haven’t obviously shown their patience over the last 10 years.
September 12th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
Good to see the staff getting along!!!!
September 12th, 2012 at 1:58 pm
Amy’s in Charge,
Were you serious about the move out of Oakland in your earlier post?
I found it to be an interesting post and was not sure if you were just messin’ with us or you were serious.
September 12th, 2012 at 1:58 pm
JFB,
Cable was, and still is your guy, lol.
Tell me, was it the bowling shirt that got you on his team?
September 12th, 2012 at 1:58 pm
Sad old Kell,..in here, day after day, year after year,..cant let go of his old man anger and bitterness,…pretending to be a realtor…are you aware old Kell that we get enjoyment out of your misery?…please keep it up.
September 12th, 2012 at 1:58 pm
I think the only real talent we have is dmac… i dont count kickers. As good as jano is sf has gotten better kickers off the scrap heap
September 12th, 2012 at 1:58 pm
Wher BSJ at?
September 12th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
He’s not getting absolved of anything. We’re just not the kind of short-sighted simpletons who think the solution to losing ONE GAME is firing two coordinators. We’re not like children who can’t wait until Christmas morning, and want Reggie to transform the Raiders into a contender NOW NOW NOW because quite frankly, they weren’t even contenders before.
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OK. But here’s something you should know.
There were many here who criticized the Knapp hiring when it occured. There are many here who don’t want Knapp canned solely bcz of what went down Mon nite. They’re basing the call for his dismissal based on his previous performances and history. The Mon night game merely served to verify what they’ve been saying for a long time now.
You also might want to consider that in a few weeks you’ll be convinced that the ’simpletons’ were correct all along and that Knapp needs to go.
In that case, you’ll only be a little ’slower’ in reaching the same conclusion that the ’simpletons’ came to quite a while ago – so what would that make you ?
September 12th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
AmysInCharge Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
Hey old Kell,
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If you want to talk to me, call me by my name, and leave the personal schit out of it.
September 12th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
John, I only post facts, and if you dont think theyre heading back to LA youre in denial,..they already know theyre out of here, as I do.
September 12th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
There’s a certain type/group of fans in here, who lecture “lesser” Raider fans on patience for the last frigging decade.
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I seem to see it the other way around.
Those with a more longer term focus and patience right now, are getting heckled by the immediate results crowd, who want to puff out their chest and say they are an “OG” and been around a long time, and they “care more than us apparently”.
September 12th, 2012 at 2:00 pm
Old Kell,..you making demands?…lmao,..nobody takes orders from an old fool like you.
September 12th, 2012 at 2:01 pm
Tell me, was it the bowling shirt that got you on his team?
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I was not a fan of the bowling shirt, at least the untucked bowling shirt, but the post draft victory parade in Hawaiin shirts was awesome!!!
September 12th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
AmysInCharge Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
Hey old Kell,
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If you want to talk to me, call me by my name, and leave the personal schit out of it.
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Norco, you better use the old goat’s real name and not some mean one
Or he might call you a bootlicker, handfker, etc.
September 12th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
Kell,
Why do you have to get all defensive when someone disagrees with you?
I could see you getting defensive while I was reading through this thread, lol.
SO WHAT if YA was talking about you???? It’s not like he went on some name calling rant.
Funny part about it is you took offense to something you KNOW you didn’t say. OBVIOUSLY he wasn’t even talking to/about you, lol.
September 12th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
I’m a true fan probably invested more time an money in the raiders than most of u. Being that I’ve been a season tix holder for 16 yrs now. In sec 204
So ya I have the rite to my opinion. An I think Knapp was not a good choice. Changing the whole offense was a mistake. An other critics will agree
September 12th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
r8dercain Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 1:55 pm
Hue probably had to go. But his scheme should have stayed. Just like they did in SF
Fired singletary but kept his scheme.
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Really??
WOW.
September 12th, 2012 at 2:03 pm
You also might want to consider that in a few weeks you’ll be convinced that the ’simpletons’ were correct all along and that Knapp needs to go.
In that case, you’ll only be a little ’slower’ in reaching the same conclusion that the ’simpletons’ came to quite a while ago – so what would that make you ?
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I’ve never been sold on Knapp. I know full well what he did the first time around. And as I’ve said before, I don’t think Moore and DHB are good fits for a West Coast passing game.
But booting Knapp to the curb mid-season isn’t going to make the team any better. And it certainly isn’t a good idea after one game. Hurts morale, destroys the basis for everything the team had worked on thus far, and sends a bad message to any coach the Raiders might be looking to hire as a replacement.
September 12th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
I seem to see it the other way around.
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LMFAO
I was thinking the same thing.
September 12th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
Being that I’ve been a season tix holder for 16 yrs now. In sec 204
So ya I have the rite to my opinion.
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You absolutely have the right to your opinion, and I encourage you to voice it.
But whether you sit in section 204, live in the 204 area code or are 204 months old, doesn’t mean a rip.
September 12th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
Now, if Knapp’s presence alone starts hurting team morale – arguments with players, benching guys who are performing well because of his ego – ie Todd Haley s*** – then I can see cutting ties with him early on.
At this point? Makes no sense for the team. Would be a decision based solely on emotions, which is why the team obviously hasn’t gone that route.
September 12th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
106,
RFL, I got ya. I think we’re on the same page.
September 12th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
SO who on Miami’s D do we have to look out for ? Wake ? Dont know anyone else …
September 12th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
AmysInCharge Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
John, I only post facts, and if you dont think theyre heading back to LA youre in denial,..they already know theyre out of here, as I do.
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Please explain this fact to Brain the Genital
Poor fella always throws a tantrum whenever I lecture him on this
HOLLA
September 12th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
We are the flying dmacs… try a system that fits.. dummy
September 12th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
Lisfrac injury for Ford.
September 12th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
I think Knapp is going to start magically looking “smarter” with an NFL quality center and WR’s playing.
Just a hunch
September 12th, 2012 at 2:08 pm
“We were so close last year.” Really?
When I watched the elite teams last year and then had to suffer through a Raider game, I never thought we were close.
September 12th, 2012 at 2:08 pm
Got a lot of gruff for wanting to trade Jacoby this offseason.
Having a 4th round pick next year in his place looks mighty sweet right now.
September 12th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
Ok JFB
If u think knapps offensive play calling is was or ever will work than u have lost major credibility with me bro. There’s few I respect on here an u were one.
Tell me that hue scheme didn’t work better?
Look if DMAC had success under a different OC than admit it.
I can only hope that knapps playcalling gets better. I’m just tired of it being one thing gets fixed an then the other breaksdown sorry I care.
September 12th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
@YoungAmerican
Is McFadden a good fit for the ZBS?
September 12th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
McFadden is a good fit in any scheme.
September 12th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
Its about the plays you call in that scheme.. The lineman executing their blocks..
September 12th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
If u think knapps offensive play calling is was or ever will work than u have lost major credibility with me bro. There’s few I respect on here an u were one.
Tell me that hue scheme didn’t work better?
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It’s only been one game!!! I will let you know at the end of the season.
BTW, Hue’s first game as an OC with us, produced less points, yards, yards per play, and yards per pass than Monday night.
September 12th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
@YoungAmerican
Is McFadden a good fit for the ZBS?
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Hard to say. I don’t see any reason why he can’t be a “one cut and go” type guy. Seems like he has enough talent to flourish in any system.
People point to his poor output on the ground on Monday as evidence he’s not a good fit, but the Raiders really didn’t have much of an opportunity to lean on their running game. The turnovers took the running game out of the equation, and SD is a very good run defense. It’s not like good run defenses didn’t limit McFadden last year, too.
But McFadden’s production in the passing game is pretty promising to me. Makes me think that even if the Raiders are facing good run defenses, they can still find a way to get McFadden involved.
Not sure what to expect v.s. Miami, though. He’s never done well against those Dolphins defenses.
September 12th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
139.DennisAllensVisor Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
Its about the plays you call in that scheme.. The lineman executing their blocks..
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You no why I asked, “experts” are now coming out saying he is not…
September 12th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
I’m done talking to people who enjoy losing. Losing is for losers
September 12th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
These lineman are gonna take a while to get use to the ZBS.. could take all season.. Dmac will not be as an effective runner for that reason alone
Is Veldhere a ZB Linenan? is Wiz? Papa who i respect doesnt quite see it.
September 12th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
116.AmysInCharge Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
John, I only post facts, and if you dont think theyre heading back to LA youre in denial,..they already know theyre out of here, as I do.
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You hadn’t mentioned LA as the destination in your original post.
I’m not refuting what you’re saying.
Are u at liberty to say how you know this to be true?
September 12th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
SBreport @SBreport
Jacoby Ford suffered Lisfranc injury just like McFadden last year.
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September 12th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
Sign Plaxico .. put ford on IR.. and lets roll with some VETS!
Guys who have been there and done it all before.
September 12th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
Hopefully Allen doesn’t spend the year Jacoby will be back any week now.
September 12th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
Yo, working on a hot new dance move to go along with my upcoming mega-hit “Bummer Summer”
This jam will hit the airwaves next year and be 2013’s Call Me Maybe
For the dance you gotta be in a swim trunk or jock strap with the crotch cut out
When the song starts, dip your nads once in the jacuzzi, then dip your weiner twice into an ice cold pitcher of margaritas. Then repeat x20 (with a huge smile for the cameras)
Homies will doing this in every club in South Beach, HOLLA
September 12th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
134.Twocents Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 2:08 pm
“We were so close last year.” Really?
When I watched the elite teams last year and then had to suffer through a Raider game, I never thought we were close.
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When I say “close” i’m referring to being a playoff team.
September 12th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
Jacoby Ford = Chad Shillens
or
Jacoby ford = JLH ?
September 12th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
All preseason the Raider can’t score.
-Chorus: “its only preseason, who care’s about preseason”
Game One, the Raiders can’t score.
-Chorus: ” its only the first game, it’s only the first game.
September 12th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
“Bummer Summer”
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Can I get a sample verse Beeech ?
September 12th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
Beeech,
If we don’t have a jacuzzi readily available will a pitcher of beer suffice?
September 12th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
John, I was told, and you will be too, about one day after we lose the last game in San Diego. By the way that loss will round the year out at 2-14.
September 12th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
R8ercain,
Look man, I wasn’t trying to attack you personally, I just have a hard time excepting the I’m a bigger fan than you attitude some on here have. Especially when backing it up with the “I go to the games” theory.
Back when I lived in NorCal, I once went to EVERY SINGLE GAME most up on Mt. Davis, from 98-03. Even some preseason games. All the postseason games.
I would often drive into Livermore from Chico, with $12, enough to get 2 beers and hopefully mooch off my uncles Bart Pass and hopefully have enough gas in the Geo Prizm to make it home to Chico.
I wasn’t a bigger fan at that time, than I am now, simply because I went to the games. In fact I would say I am probably much more knowledgeable now than I was then.
September 12th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
There’s a certain type/group of old goat in here, who keeps posting the same lame post over and over again, all while trying to troll politics, international travel, or his own shiny red corvette.
Year after year after fking year.
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LOL! “hello kettle. i’m the pot. ur black.”
“keeps posting the same lame post over and over again”—umm, yessssssss.
sounds like someone we know (unfortunately).
the first time u post about the raiders in this raiders blog, will be the first time ever.
now, try to come back with a lame response that isn’t COMPLETELY predictable. i’m gonna guess it has the words “minion”, “meltdown”, and “slap” in it. also, something completely outdated like “holla”, “keeping it real”, and “hizzie”.
ur priceless.
oh yeah, make sure u say something about me crying in the arms of someone else. by the way, i never have a clue who ur talking about. krappyrat? diapers? the genital? make some sense JUST ONCE!
September 12th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 1:36 pm
Childish simpletons? really?
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When people are calling for the heads of the entire organization over one loss? That’s exactly what it is.
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Name ONE poster advocating that?
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KoolKell Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
There’s a certain type/group of fans in here, who think they’re smarter than everyone else, who won’t hold anybody accountable for the Raiders performances on Sundays, EXCEPT, other fans, media commentators, Warren Sapp, Rich Gannon. Never the Oakland Raiders themselves.
Year after year after fking year.
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Krappy going into melt down mode.
Reread the posts you senile old goat, plenty in here calling for the canning of the Special teams coordinator and the Offensive coordinator.
I swear you get dumber every day.
September 12th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
There is no difference between letting the numbers speak for themselves when it comes to Knapp and our Raiders. Knapp has a history of sucking and so do the Raiders the past 10 years? I keep wanting to forget…
So again, no difference between us and the the media; Knapp and his offensive rankings in the past, haven’t sold anyone as to why he should be thought of as someone that will improve our offense. I see why one can conclude that we would suck again and why the media never gives us credit…
My little meltdown. =)
September 12th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
The ZBS looks weak.
Palmer played well enough to win. The pass before the half almost picked was bad, he should have found Hagan for TD before half there. Would have been big. Overall tho you could tell Palmer wasn’t forcing the same throws as usual.
Taiwan Jones fumble was a BAD bad bad turining point.
and the TWO blocked punts.
Overall Pat Lee looked bad and the loss of Bartell is not good.
Heck, I even seen a few bad yellow flags out there.
No excuses against the fins. NONE. 0-2 would be danger with our schedule.
POSITIVES:
WHEELER
SEYMOUR, RUN D.
JANIKOWSKI
and I thought Meyers looked serviceable.
September 12th, 2012 at 2:24 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 2:03 pm
I’ve never been sold on Knapp. I know full well what he did the first time around. And as I’ve said before, I don’t think Moore and DHB are good fits for a West Coast passing game.
But booting Knapp to the curb mid-season isn’t going to make the team any better. And it certainly isn’t a good idea after one game. Hurts morale, destroys the basis for everything the team had worked on thus far, and sends a bad message to any coach the Raiders might be looking to hire as a replacement.
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Coaches aren’t complete morons. I doubt any coach around the league would have a problem working with this offense and taking over for Knapp seeing how he is a complete joke, not to mention would ADJUST their system like Hue did for the players. And no, we should not be looking for players to fit Knapp’s system since his system sucks.
Dennis Allen’s book is too soon to be written, but he fu**ed up BIG time when he scrapped the offense & hired Knapp.
September 12th, 2012 at 2:24 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
Yo, working on a hot new dance move to go along with my upcoming mega-hit “Bummer Summer”
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u mean this summer, when u were absent from the blog for two weeks b/c u were in jail?
hahahahhahahahaha!!!!!!!! those were the BEST two weeks this blog ever had! bet u got raped in jail, although it doesn’t really count as rape when u ask for it and love it.
September 12th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
I’ve never been sold on Knapp. I know full well what he did the first time around. And as I’ve said before, I don’t think Moore and DHB are good fits for a West Coast passing game.
But booting Knapp to the curb mid-season isn’t going to make the team any better. And it certainly isn’t a good idea after one game. Hurts morale, destroys the basis for everything the team had worked on thus far, and sends a bad message to any coach the Raiders might be looking to hire as a replacement.
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Fair enough. So your position is that the Raids should stick with Knapp until at least when ? Game 10 ? The entire year ? Makes sense, don’t want to act rashly, but keep in mind it’s a decision that could backfire if the offense continues to languish.
And since you don’t seem to like Knapp or feel that he runs a scheme conducive to some of our personnel, what makes you think that replacing him isn’t going to make the team better ?
The ‘morale’ argument can just as easily be made in the other direction. Perhaps a team that doesn’t believe in Knapp, anymore than you apparently do, would have their morale bolstered by his dismissal.
I wouldn’t worry too much about alienating a prospective OC due to Knapp’s dismissal. I’m pretty sure the Raids can find an eager and well qualified applicant to replace him. It’s a nice high paying gig.
September 12th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
Vic Tafur @VicTafur
Nick Guess beat out five other long snappers in 7 a.m. tryout this morning
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Holla!
September 12th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
Knapp had no excuses this week with Moore in the 1st team.
reece, moore, dmc, dhb, meyers is good enough for miami
September 12th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
I don’t think Moore and DHB are good fits for a West Coast passing game.
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I am interested to see how they use Moore. Hopefully it isn’t just to replace what Streater is doing, because that would not be a good fit.
I think DHB is a good fit in a WCO however, because of his YAC ability, and severe inability to catch passes thrown down the field.
September 12th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
oh klas. don’t go the beeech way. it only leads to retardation.
September 12th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
dr_robert Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 2:24 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
Yo, working on a hot new dance move to go along with my upcoming mega-hit “Bummer Summer”
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u mean this summer, when u were absent from the blog for two weeks b/c u were in jail?
hahahahhahahahaha!!!!!!!! those were the BEST two weeks this blog ever had! bet u got raped in jail, although it doesn’t really count as rape when u ask for it and love it.
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the butt hurt is strong in this one,,,,,,,,,
September 12th, 2012 at 2:28 pm
oh that’s the perfect name for beeech’s pitiful poop party or whatever he calls it.
the retardation nation!
September 12th, 2012 at 2:28 pm
164.Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
Vic Tafur @VicTafur
Nick Guess beat out five other long snappers in 7 a.m. tryout this morning
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Holla!
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Hopefully they had them snapping from 2nd base…
September 12th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
Dr_robert Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
oh klas. don’t go the beeech way. it only leads to retardation.
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Klas promises not to go full retard like Beeech.
September 12th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
Coaches aren’t complete morons. I doubt any coach around the league would have a problem working with this offense and taking over for Knapp seeing how he is a complete joke, not to mention would ADJUST their system like Hue did for the players. And no, we should not be looking for players to fit Knapp’s system since his system sucks.
Dennis Allen’s book is too soon to be written, but he fu**ed up BIG time when he scrapped the offense & hired Knapp.
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You don’t think it sends a bad message to fire a coordinator after one poor performance by his offense? It makes the team management look like amateurs – it makes them look like overly emotional fans who make rash decisions. It’s the same reason coordinators didn’t want to work under Al Davis – they don’t want someone who is going to fire or demote them after one gameplan doesn’t go as expected.
So again – you want a coach to come in MID-SEASON and implement a brand new scheme? That has to be a joke, right?
September 12th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
Knapp’s system is fine. It’s his playcalling that sucks @$$. Pure idiocy.
September 12th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
http://6thfloor.blogs.nytimes.com/
which one of you wrote this?
September 12th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
Nathan Stupar @thenastynate54
Got released but my God knows what he’s doing and where he’s taking me. I walk by faith not by sight.
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Good for you. God wants you to sell insurance.
September 12th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
Let Saunders call plays.
September 12th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
I am interested to see how they use Moore. Hopefully it isn’t just to replace what Streater is doing, because that would not be a good fit.
I think DHB is a good fit in a WCO however, because of his YAC ability, and severe inability to catch passes thrown down the field.
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Agreed on the first point.
I would prefer seeing DHB in the slot more. I don’t think he’s quite physical enough or refined in his timing to win his matchups outside the hashes consistently. Still seems to have a problem getting body position on defenders. Definitely needs to see more plays that allow him to work in open space.
September 12th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
Last thing we should do, if we want to avoid any poor decision making links of the past, is to fire someone now.
Demoting someone, I can live with.
September 12th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
Nob Raider – the newly crowned Blog Punching Bag – spends half his post telling everyone how scared he is of my reply.
Classic minion, keep the hits coming
DJ – beer will definitely work, but you gotta drink it after the dance is over
Here’s a quick verse (this will be over an insane bass line and huge drum solo):
BUMMER SUMMER
Man, the beach is packed, just too many lines
And I’ve had intercourse only 14 times
Whatever brahs, I’m going straight to the club
‘Cause when the girls start dancing, I’ll pop a huge chub
STRAIGHT OUTTA THE BEEEECH PAD
September 12th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
Most of us were also against the Bresnahan hiring last year. For the same reasons: The Defense wasn’t broke, and we’d seen that guy before, and weren’t impressed.
September 12th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
Man it sucks but Knappy is not going anywhere. Knapp was a little hesitant about coming back to Oakland.. cuz he knew he sucked up the place last time. Allen had to convince him.. and the actually paid more just to get him here.
Knapp just doesnt know what to do with all this talent imo. He better figure it out by sunday.. or this season will be wasted.
September 12th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
I would prefer seeing DHB in the slot more.
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Wouldn’t this be good for the run game also? As he is a good blocker?
September 12th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
Wouldn’t this be good for the run game also? As he is a good blocker?
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I would agree, yeah.
September 12th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
Dhb in the slot would be nice. Plaxico on the outside.. DMO out wide.. thats a good rotation
September 12th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
Sign Plaxico .. put ford on IR.. and lets roll with some VETS!
Guys who have been there and done it all before
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even though i think streater and dhb will be solid possession guys with YAC ability in this O, i like plax for the redzone. Criner needs to get some run and alongside Moore, be the deep threat
September 12th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
Anybody see the play Bartell got hurt on? I remember reading the article last week about Wheeler’s penchant for friendly fire, and could’ve swore he took out Bartell on a play but wasn’t sure. If anyone can take a look and satisfy my curiosity it would be greatly appreciated.
Side Note: Yeah I was disappointed with our performance, but I’m trying to remain positive.
Positives:
-Best game I’ve seen from McClain as a Raider. He was in the right gap more often than not and I thought he worked well with Burris and the ends. Had some good tackles too and also forced the ball carrier into other defenders several times. I was a big critic of his last season so I gotta give credit where its due. I was watching him alot too on Monday
-Thought S. Spencer looked pretty good
-Burris exceeded my expectations for a rookie starting LB. Only one game, but its a foundation to build on.
- Lechler isn’t in a wheelchair, which is what I was expecting after that flip on the blocked punt
-Defense has potential. If our defense continues to get better and plays like it did on Monday, we will be alright even with Knapp’s dink and dunk scheme
September 12th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
Is it me or have Condo’s snaps been high a lot lately?..
September 12th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
Nathan Stupar @thenastynate54
Got released but my God knows what he’s doing and where he’s taking me. I walk by faith not by sight.
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Good for you. God wants you to sell insurance.
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Nathan Stupar @thenastynate54
They confronted me in the day of my disaster, but the LORD was my support. Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for you are with me; your rod and your staff, they comfort me.
Sweeeet Jesus!!!
September 12th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
Good for you. God wants you to sell insurance.
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haha the klas man
September 12th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
“Goethel had not snapped in a game since high school and did only “limited work” before practice, as team officials gingerly put it. The result? He bounced his first snap to punter Shane Lechler, who was summarily crushed by defenders. Lechler moved up a few steps for attempt No. 2 — and had his punt blocked. Goethel’s third try never left the ground. It just rolled to Lechler.
Three botched snaps in a row!
Even given the Olympian standards of ineptitude my Raiders have established, this has to rank as pure, unprecedented genius.”
LMFAO!
September 12th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
Nathan Stupar @thenastynate54
Got released but my God knows what he’s doing and where he’s taking me. I walk by faith not by sight.
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Good for you. God wants you to sell insurance.
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Classy.
September 12th, 2012 at 2:40 pm
Vic Tafur @VicTafur
People asking me about Raiders adding a WR … Moore is back and Criner will play more, and Allen said they’re good with five guys
September 12th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
-Best game I’ve seen from McClain as a Raider. He was in the right gap more often than not and I thought he worked well with Burris and the ends. Had some good tackles too and also forced the ball carrier into other defenders several times. I was a big critic of his last season so I gotta give credit where its due. I was watching him alot too on Monday
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lets see how he does now that he is dinged, as he was most of last year
September 12th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
Vic Tafur @VicTafur
People asking me about Raiders adding a WR … Moore is back and Criner will play more, and Allen said they’re good with five guys
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Don’t know why Knapp didn’t use Criner in the red zone.
September 12th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
Best game I’ve seen from McClain as a Raider
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good call, and good call on lechler not being hurt. gotta agree with the guys who rather have wheeler play lb than wimbley in a 4-3, in a 3-4 wimbley hands down but minus a 3rd down specilist ala trevor scott year one or chris clemmons last year as raider, our front seven finally looks how a front seven should look
September 12th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
Goethel’s third try never left the ground. It just rolled to Lechler.
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Call me crazy, but the only time you do something the 3rd time worse than the previous two times, is if you are scared and self-doubting yourself.
I guess the tough-guy beard doesn’t help with a cool hand in the face of adversity.
September 12th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
Nathan Stupar @thenastynate54
Got released but my God knows what he’s doing and where he’s taking me. I walk by faith not by sight.
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Good for you. God wants you to sell insurance.
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Classy.
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Don’t you mean Klassy!
September 12th, 2012 at 2:45 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
You don’t think it sends a bad message to fire a coordinator after one poor performance by his offense? It makes the team management look like amateurs – it makes them look like overly emotional fans who make rash decisions. It’s the same reason coordinators didn’t want to work under Al Davis – they don’t want someone who is going to fire or demote them after one gameplan doesn’t go as expected.
So again – you want a coach to come in MID-SEASON and implement a brand new scheme? That has to be a joke, right?
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Now you are re-writing history. Since when did Al fire someone after “one” game plan? I do remember Ed Donatell getting fired as DC from the Packers after a playoff game for allowing that 3rd & forever play against the Eagles. Clancy Pendergast was fired less than a week after Arizona went to the SuperBowl.
And no, I don’t want an OC to come in here mid-season. There is ALREADY a coordinator on staff that could & should of took over for Hue.
September 12th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
I don’t want to see the play calling we saw against the Chargers, rear it’s ugly head up again, against the Dolphins. If this happens the thought of D.A not knowing wtf he’s doing, might start plaguing my thoughts. There has to be a plan for everything and just like there wasn’t one for the long snapper, I’m hoping there actually is one if our poor offense outings since preseason, continue.
September 12th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
Got to give Knapp at least 4 games. If they can’t score, then can his greasy ass.
September 12th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
Now you are re-writing history. Since when did Al fire someone after “one” game plan?
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Forced Rob Ryan to scrap the 3-4.
September 12th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
In this case, preseason was a preview of what our offense was going to do.
September 12th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
Nathan Stupar @thenastynate54
Got released but my God knows what he’s doing and where he’s taking me. I walk by faith not by sight.
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Good for you. God wants you to sell insurance.
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Classy.
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Don’t you mean Klassy!
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atta boy klas! u can start coming up with all kinds of puns, like greg kihn used to with all his albums. kihntagious, kihnspiracy, etc.
by the way, the doctor is in the house.
September 12th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
Best game I’ve seen from McClain as a Raider
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that says a lot, since, after making a couple really nice plays early, he ended up with 5 total tackles. dude disappeared like a coward.
September 12th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
LMAO, this guy has a blog dedicated to long snappers:
http://longsnap.com/
September 12th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
Dr_robert Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
Nathan Stupar @thenastynate54
Got released but my God knows what he’s doing and where he’s taking me. I walk by faith not by sight.
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Good for you. God wants you to sell insurance.
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Classy.
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Don’t you mean Klassy!
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atta boy klas! u can start coming up with all kinds of puns, like greg kihn used to with all his albums. kihntagious, kihnspiracy, etc.
by the way, the doctor is in the house.
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Hey Doctor, I think you need to examine some of these guys for cases of Klasstrophobia.
September 12th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
Did anyone else notice that our so called boot leg heavy wco was almost comletely devoid of boot legs and roll outs?
This is a function of not hvaing the right personel for your offense.
Please believe that big mack wants a guy like arron rogers or RGIII type of wco, and not that crap we saw on monday night.
ALL HOLD OVERS ARE HEREBY ON NOTICE AND PLAYING FOR THEIR ROSTER SPOT IN 2013
September 12th, 2012 at 2:53 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
Forced Rob Ryan to scrap the 3-4.
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And after what game was that? I do remember him trying to put Tyler Brayton & Granto Irons in the 3/4 though. As matter of fact, how was the 3/4 looking at that time? About as smart as Knapp putting DMC & Palmer in a offense that is completely opposite of what they do best.
But I get your point, now that Al is gone, we can hire attractive candidates like Steve Hoffman & Greg Knapp. Thanks for avoiding my other points though about Donatell & Clancy.
September 12th, 2012 at 2:53 pm
Didn’t have many doubts that RGIII would do well in the pros. Had a slight concern he might take a few hits moving around and he doesn’t have great size.
But I gotta say, I can’t believe how good he looked.
That one play in particular where Shanarat had him rolling to the left – and he is confronted with a LB – sidesteps him by quickly stopping and moving back to his right – and then scans the field and throws a dart all the way up the right sideline – was incredibly difficult and RGIII made it look easy.
Just a great play that will destroy any defense.
Definitely a wow moment.
September 12th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
Dr_robert Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
now, try to come back with a lame response that isn’t COMPLETELY predictable. i’m gonna guess it has the words “minion”, “meltdown”, and “slap” in it. also, something completely outdated like “holla”, “keeping it real”, and “hizzie”.
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The Beeech Dawg Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
Classic minion, keep the hits coming
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like fuking clockwork! LOL! he’s like a gross, moldy, old windup doll. but he keeps pulling his own string.
September 12th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
Reading your posts gives me Klasahrea.
September 12th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
LMAO, this guy has a blog dedicated to long snappers:
http://longsnap.com/
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aww, that’s cute. i bet it was started by his dad.
September 12th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
I went to the Halloween day game in San Diego in 2004, and I think that was part of the 3-4 experiment.
Brees light us up for close to 50 points if I remember correctly.
September 12th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
You all remember when KoolKell was banned and had to post over at PFT? Here are some of the classics from his days of exile:
KoolKell says:
May 4, 2010 6:24 PM
Also on that Outside The Lines show was a scorching assessment of Al Davis’s 29-83 record as GM these last 7 years.
The Raiders problems begin and end with Al Davis.
A.B. Paine II says:
May 4, 2010 6:49 PM
KoolKell, why did you leave Jerry’s blog? We miss you. In fact, we just declared May 4th KoolKell day. Come back!
KoolKell says:
May 4, 2010 8:17 PM
Jerry’s Blog Commrades,
I read the tribute for me there today. I just want to let you know that I was banned for posting Richochet’s address. Richochet was stalking and calling me using a blocked number for over 6 weeks. I finally had enough and had some people trap his calls and found out his identity.
Maybe some of you could ask Jerry about this.
Thanks, KoolKell
P.S. Don’t let those bullies over there get away with sH*t, peace.
September 12th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
Knapp should use the Ask Madden feature to call his plays …
September 12th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
Steve Corkran @CorkOnTheNFL
Denarius Moore is practicing. Coach Allen said he is very hopeful that Moore will play Sunday. ///////////Aren’t we all.
September 12th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
MaddenRaiderisadouchebag Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 2:53 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
Forced Rob Ryan to scrap the 3-4.
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And after what game was that? I do remember him trying to put Tyler Brayton & Granto Irons in the 3/4 though. As matter of fact, how was the 3/4 looking at that time? About as smart as Knapp putting DMC & Palmer in a offense that is completely opposite of what they do best.
But I get your point, now that Al is gone, we can hire attractive candidates like Steve Hoffman & Greg Knapp. Thanks for avoiding my other points though about Donatell & Clancy.
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After the first game, if I remember correctly. Sure, Brayton and Irons weren’t Harrison and Woodley. But did the defense improve after Al forced Rob Ryan to change his scheme? The record suggests otherwise.
With Donatell and Pendergast, those are entirely different situations. They were fired after the season, not one game into it.
September 12th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
Dr_robert Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
Nathan Stupar @thenastynate54
Got released but my God knows what he’s doing and where he’s taking me. I walk by faith not by sight.
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Good for you. God wants you to sell insurance.
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Classy.
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Don’t you mean Klassy!
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atta boy klas! u can start coming up with all kinds of puns, like greg kihn used to with all his albums. kihntagious, kihnspiracy, etc.
by the way, the doctor is in the house.
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Hey Doctor, I think you need to examine some of these guys for cases of Klasstrophobia.
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perfect! now take two klaspirins and a klas of water and call me in the morning.
September 12th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
Brees light us up for close to 50 points if I remember correctly.
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God, am I glad that guy isn’t in San Diego anymore.
September 12th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
I went to the Halloween day game in San Diego in 2004, and I think that was part of the 3-4 experiment.
Brees light us up for close to 50 points if I remember correctly.
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LOL! Well there you go. If something isn’t working, scrap it. I can’t imagine what Al would have said to Knapp on Tuesday morning. LOL!
September 12th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
Definitely a wow moment.
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That’s what a top pick is supposed to look like, even if they just “flash” from time to time.
That’s why I always debate/argue, that Jamarcus wasn’t really all that talented to begin with.
He had a strong arm, but did he even have the strongest arm? Maybe, but if so not by much.
Meanwhile, he was slow, average athletically, awful accuracy, and no touch on his intermediate throws. Those are all “skills” that he didn’t possess much of.
September 12th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
Haven’t been here for quite a while. We off suicide watch yet?
September 12th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
I forgot about that Halloween game. Ugly, ugly, ugly.
September 12th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
perfect! now take two klaspirins and a klas of water and call me in the morning.
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Good one Dr.!
September 12th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
You all remember when KoolKell was banned and had to post over at PFT? Here are some of the classics from his days of exile:
KoolKell says:
May 4, 2010 6:24 PM
Also on that Outside The Lines show was a scorching assessment of Al Davis’s 29-83 record as GM these last 7 years.
The Raiders problems begin and end with Al Davis.
A.B. Paine II says:
May 4, 2010 6:49 PM
KoolKell, why did you leave Jerry’s blog? We miss you. In fact, we just declared May 4th KoolKell day. Come back!
KoolKell says:
May 4, 2010 8:17 PM
Jerry’s Blog Commrades,
I read the tribute for me there today. I just want to let you know that I was banned for posting Richochet’s address. Richochet was stalking and calling me using a blocked number for over 6 weeks. I finally had enough and had some people trap his calls and found out his identity.
Maybe some of you could ask Jerry about this.
Thanks, KoolKell
P.S. Don’t let those bullies over there get away with sH*t, peace.
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could this all end up like tupac and biggie? a blog war gone awry? can’t we all get along?
September 12th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
Where is Tx at?
September 12th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
Interesting Tweet Gutierrez just tweeted…
In reference to the Ford/Campbell dynamic I was called a liar over.
September 12th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
Knapp is this years version of Bresnahan! tsk
Pryor will be starter by week 10
September 12th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
In this case, preseason was a preview of what our offense was going to do.
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Always is.
September 12th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
YoungAmerican Says: Pendergast///////////Who the he11 was that? that’s my mom’s maiden name.
September 12th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 2:53 pm
Didn’t have many doubts that RGIII would do well in the pros. Had a slight concern he might take a few hits moving around and he doesn’t have great size.
But I gotta say, I can’t believe how good he looked.
That one play in particular where Shanarat had him rolling to the left – and he is confronted with a LB – sidesteps him by quickly stopping and moving back to his right – and then scans the field and throws a dart all the way up the right sideline – was incredibly difficult and RGIII made it look easy.
Just a great play that will destroy any defense.
Definitely a wow moment.
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looked like baylor vs oklohoma
i knew he would be that good, he will end up being the greatest players Shannan has ever coached, and the best player in redskin history if he stays healthy
RGII = ONCE IN A GENERATION TALENT AND THE WAVE OF THE FUTURE
September 12th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
http://deadspin.com/5942608/some-fantastic-photos-of-a-fan-fight-at-the-raiders-game/gallery/1
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guys see this yet?
September 12th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
did someone call for a doctor?
September 12th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
That game had Warren Sapp screaming at Norv on the sidelines, Kerry Collins was throwing picks, Charger fans were screaming “Raiders Suck” and I was with a chick I hooked up with in college, who lured me down to San Diego with the carrot of attending a Raider game, but the plans to make me sleep on the couch.
Great times!!!!!
September 12th, 2012 at 3:01 pm
Purvisman Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
Haven’t been here for quite a while. We off suicide watch yet?
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Hard to say. A bunch of people want Reggie to fire Knapp after one game.
September 12th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
No we want reggie.. just people are tired of knapp because they knew the outcome back in August. Monday was just confirmation
September 12th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
In this case, preseason was a preview of what our offense was going to do.
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Always is.
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u mean watching colin miller and kevin haslam block for lonyae miller was a preview for our offense? wow. did not know that.
September 12th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/gameon/post/2012/09/12/raiders-fight-punch/70000197/1
September 12th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
Tommy Kelly’s offsides=F%&k yo couch, f&%k yo couch, Coach.
September 12th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
he will end up being the greatest players Shannan has ever coached, and the best player in redskin history if he stays healthy
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SMH
Can you just let the kids play and let things fall where they do?
Greatest Redskin ever? Greatest player Shanahan ever coached?
After ONE GAME!!!!
Heaven forbid he actual wins a playoff game or two, you might claim him to be the greatest human since Jesus Christ.
September 12th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
Definitely a wow moment.
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That’s what a top pick is supposed to look like, even if they just “flash” from time to time.
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please what top rooki8e pick comes in and makes that play? manning brees brady?
No RGIII is unique, and you said he wouldnt make it couldnt take snaps from center or throw from the pocket
BWHWHAHAHAHAHAHA
September 12th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 2:53 pm
Definitely a wow moment.
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Seriously? you’re going to throw out a Tim Gunn line on a Raider blog?
;-}
September 12th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
After the first game, if I remember correctly. Sure, Brayton and Irons weren’t Harrison and Woodley. But did the defense improve after Al forced Rob Ryan to change his scheme? The record suggests otherwise.
With Donatell and Pendergast, those are entirely different situations. They were fired after the season, not one game into it.
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SO do you remember how great the 3/4 was looking? BTW, that was Ryan’s first gig as a coordinator, we didn’t have the advantage like we do now with Greg Knapp, where we have seen him consistently suck.
Your words were that Al would fire or demote a guy after one game plan and you use Ryan as an example who KEPT his job….Whoppety do that Donatell was fired after the season. It was because of ONE play he got fired. And Clancy was fired less than a week after his team went to the Super Bowl. I guess it is only unacceptable when Al made a rash decision.
September 12th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
Thank you
Duck, I was here last night and didn’t we wanna fire Knapp after half time? Or shortly after we hired him.?
September 12th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
239.MiamiRaider78 Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
Tommy Kelly’s offsides=F%&k yo couch, f&%k yo couch, Coach.
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Rather have Kelly jumping offsides, than 12 men in the huddle…
September 12th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
That game had Warren Sapp screaming at Norv on the sidelines, Kerry Collins was throwing picks, Charger fans were screaming “Raiders Suck” and I was with a chick I hooked up with in college, who lured me down to San Diego with the carrot of attending a Raider game, but the plans to make me sleep on the couch.
Great times!!!!!
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Memories, eh? Sounds like you had a wonderful night…
September 12th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
Seriously? you’re going to throw out a Tim Gunn line on a Raider blog?
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Who is Tim Gunn?
September 12th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 2:53 pm
Didn’t have many doubts that RGIII would do well in the pros. Had a slight concern he might take a few hits moving around and he doesn’t have great size.
But I gotta say, I can’t believe how good he looked.
That one play in particular where Shanarat had him rolling to the left – and he is confronted with a LB – sidesteps him by quickly stopping and moving back to his right – and then scans the field and throws a dart all the way up the right sideline – was incredibly difficult and RGIII made it look easy.
Just a great play that will destroy any defense.
Definitely a wow moment.
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looked like baylor vs oklohoma
i knew he would be that good, he will end up being the greatest players Shannan has ever coached, and the best player in redskin history if he stays healthy
RGII = ONCE IN A GENERATION TALENT AND THE WAVE OF THE FUTURE
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wait. i thought there were a ton before him. like russell, campbell, akili smith, etc.
did u just say after watching one game that he will be the best redskin ever? john riggins, joe theisman, art monk, sammy baugh, darrell green, russ grimm, sonny jurgensen, mark may.
really? after one game? cmon kid. calm down.
September 12th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
Wasn’t it Ford who dissed Carson when he invited receivers to his house for Monday Night Football?
September 12th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
239.MiamiRaider78 Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
Tommy Kelly’s offsides=F%&k yo couch, f&%k yo couch, Coach.
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Rather have Kelly jumping offsides, than 12 men in the huddle…
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I rather have none of the pre snap penalties.
September 12th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
u mean watching colin miller and kevin haslam block for lonyae miller was a preview for our offense? wow. did not know that.
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Wow, didn’t know those were the only 2 players that played in the preseason.
September 12th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
dr_robert Says: In this case, preseason was a preview of what our offense was going to do.u mean watching colin miller and kevin haslam block for lonyae miller was a preview for our offense? wow. did not know that.///////////////// Rob_Raider, don’t beat up on kell, he just misspeaks most every time he posts, these days.
September 12th, 2012 at 3:10 pm
Perfect timing.
September 12th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
inonewordraider Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
http://deadspin.com/5942608/some-fantastic-photos-of-a-fan-fight-at-the-raiders-game/gallery/1
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guys see this yet?
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Long gets drilled right in the mug, but the chick swinging the cuff at the sheriff is hilarious.
September 12th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
rgIII definitely suprised me and impressed me also like what i see out of wilson. but fu#k anyone who’s not a Raider
September 12th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 2:53 pm
i knew he would be that good, he will end up being the greatest players Shannan has ever coached
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didn’t shanahan coach elway? u need to calm down. ur too excited. ur gonna cream ur pants from thinking of a black qb doing well. don’t even start thinking of cam newton, warren moon, randall cunning……oh boy, i think u just died.
September 12th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
Those were some nice fight photos and videos.
September 12th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
GHOST RAIDER Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
Seriously? you’re going to throw out a Tim Gunn line on a Raider blog?
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Who is Tim Gunn?
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google is your friend,,
September 12th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
250.MiamiRaider78 Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
239.MiamiRaider78 Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
Tommy Kelly’s offsides=F%&k yo couch, f&%k yo couch, Coach.
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Rather have Kelly jumping offsides, than 12 men in the huddle…
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I rather have none of the pre snap penalties.
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Too True, I do wonder if Kelly realizes teams are now onto him and mixing up the snap count to draw him offsides?
September 12th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
he will end up being the greatest players Shannan has ever coached, and the best player in redskin history if he stays healthy
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SMH
Can you just let the kids play and let things fall where they do?
Greatest Redskin ever? Greatest player Shanahan ever coached?
After ONE GAME!!!!
Heaven forbid he actual wins a playoff game or two, you might claim him to be the greatest human since Jesus Christ.
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Greatest Redskin ever? don’t know about that. I will tell you what I do know tho, and that is the league will catch up with these players. Rarely do they not. No one had ANY tape of RGIII. Wait til the 5th or 6th game and let’s see what happens. The exact same thing happened to Cam last year. The lst four games he tore sh** up. Then the league caught up to him. To start this year, he got 10 points Against a not very good Tampon Bay. That ain’t very good.
September 12th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
I dont care what system we run as long as we are scoring touchdowns and not racking up meaningless yards for stats
September 12th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
Purvisman Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
dr_robert Says: In this case, preseason was a preview of what our offense was going to do.u mean watching colin miller and kevin haslam block for lonyae miller was a preview for our offense? wow. did not know that.///////////////// Rob_Raider, don’t beat up on kell, he just misspeaks most every time he posts, these days.
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i’m a doctor now. i’m trying to help. but sometimes, these excitable types refuse treatment.
September 12th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
Whats A Drexl? Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
GHOST RAIDER Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
Seriously? you’re going to throw out a Tim Gunn line on a Raider blog?
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Who is Tim Gunn?
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google is your friend,,
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Tim Gunn is Klas favorite fashion consultant.
September 12th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
Whats a Drexl? Says:Long gets drilled right in the mug, but the chick swinging the cuff at the sheriff is hilarious.///////////She could be my girl freind anytime. Love that kind of attitude.
September 12th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
those security guards were top notch
September 12th, 2012 at 3:19 pm
Do we have a light fast zbs oline? NO!!!!!!
Can dmac run without blocking? NO!!!!
Quit being dumb.
Trash the zbs
September 12th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
dr_robert Says: didn’t shanahan coach elway? u need to calm down. ur too excited. ur gonna cream ur pants from thinking of a black qb doing well. don’t even start thinking of cam newton, warren moon, randall cunning……oh boy, i think u just died.//////////////////Forgot Doug Williams, played for Washington, also. I bet heavily on that white boy Elway.
September 12th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
In that Superbowl.
September 12th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
Nob Minion, tell my Blog Brahs again how you’re done talking to me.
And then immediately start talking to me. For the 5th time.
One of my favorite Nob flame-outs, holla
September 12th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
Guys that know me, know I am not a combative poster but I’m having trouble understanding this.
You guys say “rebuilding” to exempt Reggie from any responsibility if the 8-8 team he took over does not do anything this yr.
Shoot, he’s got a free pass w/ u guys.
Why is everyone so quick to absolve the new regime from any responsibility of taking this team to the playoffs when they were so close last yr.?
Must be nice for Reggie to not have to worry about any expectations from the fan base.
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There’s a certain type/group of fans in here, who won’t hold anybody accountable for the Raiders performances on Sundays, EXCEPT, other fans, media commentators, Warren Sapp, Rich Gannon. Never the Raiders themselves.
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please, don’t even put Warren Sapp and Raider in the same conversation.
September 12th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
Do we have a light fast zbs oline? NO!!!!!!
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Carlisle-Wiz-Briesel has to be the lightest or oe of the lightest interior lines of the NFL.
September 12th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
Up 10 zip until 2nd quarter and Williams accounted for 5 FIVE 5 touchdowns in the second quarter? in the fvcking superbowl.
September 12th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
LMFAO
John Madden: Robert Griffin III is “a Tim Tebow that can pass”
September 12th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
271.Just Fire Baby Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
Do we have a light fast zbs oline? NO!!!!!!
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Carlisle-Wiz-Briesel has to be the lightest or oe of the lightest interior lines of the NFL.
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Is it just Barnes that doesn’t it the ZBS? Thought that Cable drafted Veldheer for the ZBS…
September 12th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
What happened to my Pendergast query?
September 12th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
Nob Minion, tell my Blog Brahs again how you’re done talking to me.
And then immediately start talking to me. For the 5th time.
One of my favorite Nob flame-outs, holla
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oh no! i’m “flaming out”! ahhhh!!! not dure what that means but it doesn’t sound good.
and he “holla-d”. that must mean he’s up on all the street slang…..from 1994.
September 12th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
Anybody see me shoo the golden jew-aka sully last night? kinda cool.
September 12th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
Purvisman Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
dr_robert Says: didn’t shanahan coach elway? u need to calm down. ur too excited. ur gonna cream ur pants from thinking of a black qb doing well. don’t even start thinking of cam newton, warren moon, randall cunning……oh boy, i think u just died.//////////////////Forgot Doug Williams, played for Washington, also. I bet heavily on that white boy Elway.
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rg3 looked good. but he will be lucky if he matches doug williams’ career. i’m not saying he won’t be better, but i saw vince evans have a really good game once.
September 12th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
Carlisle is slow as shlt…
Briesel stinks
Wiz is competing with a shlt C… and he’s a big guy..
Trash the zbs!
September 12th, 2012 at 3:28 pm
John Madden and Ammo for Mistic…
“This is probably early, too stupid, too soon,” John Madden told the KCBS morning crew, but “I was watching him and I said ‘RGIII is the best player in the NFL.’”
Redskins coach Mike Shanahan’s game plan relied on the read-option Griffin played in high school and mastered in college at Baylor.
“I think that whole idea is the reason that more young quarterbacks can come in and not only play early, but play well early and win,” the former coach said. “He reminded me a lot of a Tim Tebow that could pass…He may hand the ball to the runner, he may keep the ball and run himself or he may keep the ball, run himself and then throw it. It really puts the defense in a place and make them stay in place.”
September 12th, 2012 at 3:28 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
Do we have a light fast zbs oline? NO!!!!!!
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Carlisle-Wiz-Briesel has to be the lightest or oe of the lightest interior lines of the NFL.
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Those guys all go 300. Wiz goes about 310 I think.
September 12th, 2012 at 3:28 pm
carlisle wasn’t the problem. i saw veldheer struggle. i saw brisiel and barnes struggle. don’t recall seeing parsons get knocked around that much. but the whole line was bad.
September 12th, 2012 at 3:30 pm
The All 22 footage is available.
Parsons getting man handled.
September 12th, 2012 at 3:30 pm
RG3 and vince evans??? Hahaha
Come on… the kid looks great
September 12th, 2012 at 3:30 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 3:28 pm
John Madden and Ammo for Mistic…
“This is probably early, too stupid, too soon,” John Madden told the KCBS morning crew, but “I was watching him and I said ‘RGIII is the best player in the NFL.’”
Redskins coach Mike Shanahan’s game plan relied on the read-option Griffin played in high school and mastered in college at Baylor.
“I think that whole idea is the reason that more young quarterbacks can come in and not only play early, but play well early and win,” the former coach said. “He reminded me a lot of a Tim Tebow that could pass…He may hand the ball to the runner, he may keep the ball and run himself or he may keep the ball, run himself and then throw it. It really puts the defense in a place and make them stay in place.”
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mistic is dead. he couldn’t take it. but he wouldn’t take the word of a cracker would he?
September 12th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
Your words were that Al would fire or demote a guy after one game plan and you use Ryan as an example who KEPT his job….Whoppety do that Donatell was fired after the season. It was because of ONE play he got fired. And Clancy was fired less than a week after his team went to the Super Bowl. I guess it is only unacceptable when Al made a rash decision.
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How do you know it was because of one play, and not the body of work they had put together that season? Even if it was because of one play, those organizations at least waited until the season was over. No proof that it was a “rash” decision.
In my mind, telling a coordinator that he can no longer run his scheme of choice makes him a coordinator in title only. Completely undermines his job as a coach. Bad for morale. Bad for everything the team had worked on to that point.
September 12th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
Parsons briesel cc and barnes got pwnd on monday.. deer was just ok
September 12th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
dr_robert Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 3:28 pm
carlisle wasn’t the problem. i saw veldheer struggle. i saw brisiel and barnes struggle. don’t recall seeing parsons get knocked around that much. but the whole line was bad.
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I don’t know if I would say the whole line was bad. Let’s say you are John Pagano and you key your defense on one player. Is it D. Hagan, DHB, Streator, Myers or Darren McFadden? Which one would you key?
September 12th, 2012 at 3:33 pm
Dr_robert Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
Best game I’ve seen from McClain as a Raider
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that says a lot, since, after making a couple really nice plays early, he ended up with 5 total tackles. dude disappeared like a coward.
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San Diego had 32 yds rushing, are you saying McClain gets no credit for that? You don’t have to make the actual tackle to make the play. That’s why you have teammates, and you work together, it called cohesiveness. Something I didn’t see alot of last year. Stats and box scores don’t always tell the whole story. Just my opinion, I’m not even a big fan of McClain, I just thought he made alot of plays Monday night, even if the stat line doesnt show it
September 12th, 2012 at 3:33 pm
The list of bad black quarterbacks is not as long as the list of bad white quarterbacks because we haven’t provided them the opportunity to fail historically. The statistics will even out going forward as both groups are given an equal chance to fail or succeed. And I’m reasonably sure the numbers will balance out.
September 12th, 2012 at 3:33 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
Nob Minion, tell my Blog Brahs again how you’re done talking to me.
And then immediately start talking to me. For the 5th time.
One of my favorite Nob flame-outs, holla
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i can’t help myself. i really love stomping on ur head. careful or i’ll post ur yelp reviews for ur “part boat” again. u usually hide for a while after that. now go beat off in the corner to nsync. and say holla.
September 12th, 2012 at 3:34 pm
I don’t know if I would say the whole line was bad. Let’s say you are John Pagano and you key your defense on one player. Is it D. Hagan, DHB, Streator, Myers or Darren McFadden? Which one would you key?
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Bruce Gradkowski ???
September 12th, 2012 at 3:34 pm
Wow. There’s something racist about that remark, but I can’t figure out what.
September 12th, 2012 at 3:35 pm
Firing Knapp or takin away his play callin is the same thing to me, I think thats how most people feel that are on the fire Knapp wagon, like me. I doubt we actually fire him, but I have no doubt if he calls a schitty game the next couple weeks he will not be calling plays anymore. We are lucky to have Saunders on staff, he knows these players and what they are good at, probably more so than Knapp. I hope Knapp can get his head out of his @ss and call a damn good come Sunday and the offense can get on a roll from there.
September 12th, 2012 at 3:35 pm
That’s what a top pick is supposed to look like, even if they just “flash” from time to time.
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Sure, that’s what a top pick should look like. But we all know many don’t.
Of course, one game isn’t enough to proclaim RGIII will definitely be another Elway or an all-time great.
But what was so impressive about that ‘flash’ on the one particular play I referenced was that RGIII in baseball terms (which I know you love) would be a 5 tool player.
It was a great demonstration of speed, elusiveness, field awareness, poise – and to me, most impressive of all, was the great arm strength and accuracy on the most difficult cross field throw a QB is asked to make.
I don’t know who Tim Gunn is, nor do I give a sht, but that was a wow moment that really stood out to me.
September 12th, 2012 at 3:35 pm
Think that Hagen will have a big game this week?
September 12th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
Steve Corkran @CorkOnTheNFL
#Raiders QB Carson Palmer said WR Denarius Moore “looked like Denarius of old. He made a couple phenomenal catches” in practice today.
September 12th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
Veldheer was the only offensive lineman who did his job on Monday night.
Pass protection wasn’t bad outside of Barnes and a couple plays from Brisiel, but Parsons in particular was getting destroyed in the run game.
September 12th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
Roosters In The Hen House Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 3:33 pm
Dr_robert Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
Best game I’ve seen from McClain as a Raider
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that says a lot, since, after making a couple really nice plays early, he ended up with 5 total tackles. dude disappeared like a coward.
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San Diego had 32 yds rushing, are you saying McClain gets no credit for that? You don’t have to make the actual tackle to make the play. That’s why you have teammates, and you work together, it called cohesiveness. Something I didn’t see alot of last year. Stats and box scores don’t always tell the whole story. Just my opinion, I’m not even a big fan of McClain, I just thought he made alot of plays Monday night, even if the stat line doesnt show it
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mcclain 5 tackles
burris 9 tackles
wheeler 8 tackles
just keep watching. good players make plays. they don’t take credit for being on the field when other players make plays.
September 12th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
DutchRaider77 Says: Think that Hagen will have a big game this week?/////////Yes, I do.
September 12th, 2012 at 3:38 pm
Man, I can’t keep up with you guys. You’re posting while I’m composing, i’m outta here.
September 12th, 2012 at 3:38 pm
Purvisman Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 3:33 pm
The list of bad black quarterbacks is not as long as the list of bad white quarterbacks because we haven’t provided them the opportunity to fail historically. The statistics will even out going forward as both groups are given an equal chance to fail or succeed. And I’m reasonably sure the numbers will balance out.
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yeah, i like black qb’s…when they’re good. i actually couldn’t care less about black or white.
September 12th, 2012 at 3:38 pm
Why would knapp get better? Has been good at making mid game or even mid season adjustments before??? No??? Demote\ fire him…..
September 12th, 2012 at 3:38 pm
Think that Hagen will have a big game this week?
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He looked good in the first half getting a couple first downs. Hopefully we can have more 3rd and shorts instead of 3rd and 35 …
September 12th, 2012 at 3:39 pm
Nob Raider, pretty please post that hilarious party boat review you found on yelp
We always get a kick out of that one
And while you’re at it, for me and my Blog Brahs, post your losing rap again
Oh man, this is like waiting for Christmas
Living up to your new “Blog Punching Bag” title, minion, love it!
WRECKS N EFFECT
September 12th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
Our O-line gave up the fewest sacks in the league last year……….
September 12th, 2012 at 3:42 pm
306. Before we messed it up….
September 12th, 2012 at 3:42 pm
Marks hair Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 3:38 pm
Why would knapp get better?
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Because you are adding Dmoore arguably your best offensive player, and because your Oline has played one game together, and because D Hagan had all of three days of practice with the ones. Those things would make any coach better.
September 12th, 2012 at 3:42 pm
What do you guys think of this trade?
Brees & Fitzgerald
for
Cutler, Jordy & Alfred Morris
September 12th, 2012 at 3:43 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 3:35 pm
Think that Hagen will have a big game this week?
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haygenn is the best WR ever
September 12th, 2012 at 3:43 pm
mcclain 5 tackles
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Didn’t he have ZERO in the opener last year? Zero? How does a Middle Lineback have No tackles?
September 12th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
Sure would like to have the Dmac/Bush Tandem this year.
September 12th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
309.DennisAllensVisor Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 3:42 pm
What do you guys think of this trade?
Brees & Fitzgerald
for
Cutler, Jordy & Alfred Morris
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Are you getting the Cutler or giving?
September 12th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
Our O-line gave up the fewest sacks in the league last year……….
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That’s because Palmer had already thrown it to the other team before the Pass rush could get there.
September 12th, 2012 at 3:45 pm
Dmoore… had 35 catches last yr… dmac had 13 last nite… im willing to argue that dmac is our best player…
September 12th, 2012 at 3:45 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
309.DennisAllensVisor Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 3:42 pm
What do you guys think of this trade?
Brees & Fitzgerald
for
Cutler, Jordy & Alfred Morris
__________________________________________________
Are you getting the Cutler or giving?
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Im getting Breez/Fitz
September 12th, 2012 at 3:45 pm
Dr_robert Says:
mcclain 5 tackles
burris 9 tackles
wheeler 8 tackles
just keep watching. good players make plays. they don’t take credit for being on the field when other players make plays.
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Ok, I’ll keep watching, thanks.
Kirk Morrison used to have a bunch of 10-15 tackle games. Only problem was they were all 7-10 yds downfield and the D gave up over 200 yds rushing. That’s my point, certain stats don’t always tell the whole story. Give me some actual examples of McClain making bad plays, not just stat lines, they don’t mean jack to me. Kirk Morrison was a FF stud, on the gridiron, not so much. I’m a Raiders fan, I want all our players to do good, I’m not gonna hate unless they give me a reason to. I hope McClain can follow it up with another solid performance.
September 12th, 2012 at 3:45 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 3:39 pm
Nob Raider, pretty please post that hilarious party boat review you found on yelp
We always get a kick out of that one
And while you’re at it, for me and my Blog Brahs, post your losing rap again
Oh man, this is like waiting for Christmas
Living up to your new “Blog Punching Bag” title, minion, love it!
WRECKS N EFFECT
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hey it’s ur boat man. i love the part about how u serve wings and dominoes pizza as ur buffet. u really are a playa.
ur raps are some of the most ridiculous displays non-musical ability i’ve ver seen. truly hard to sit thru.
wrecks and effects. probably the finest display of ur lameness. not only do u name ur “album” after a group from 1992 and hope no one recognizes it, but u pick a one-hit wonder that sucked.
ur like if screech from saved by the bell got into a time machine, and then also turned out to be into s&m and got really excited about saying “minion”.
why don’t u admit ur into s&m, sickie?
September 12th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
310.raiderinparadise Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 3:43 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 3:35 pm
Think that Hagen will have a big game this week?
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haygenn is the best WR ever
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Clarify, big game for a 3rd/4th receiver. Seems like Palmer is pretty comfortable throwing him the ball and another week to prepare…
September 12th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
GHOST RAIDER Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
Our O-line gave up the fewest sacks in the league last year……….
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That’s because Palmer had already thrown it to the other team before the Pass rush could get there.
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Well……that’s another argument. Lol.
September 12th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
Old Kell you should have told Reggie not to let Bush go, that lard butt and you speak the same language, youre both uneducated dummies who equate hangin in the barber shop to hangin at the library at Yale.
September 12th, 2012 at 3:47 pm
Fitz having no QB scares me though..
Jordy is tough to give up.
September 12th, 2012 at 3:47 pm
PM PARTY POSSE N FULL EFFECT
Brahs, we all know by now that Klas is really Albert Bigelo Puss’s newest super gay sock puppet
There is ALSO strong suspicion that Nob Minion is actually one of Peemore Bust’s legion of puppets
How else do you explain him having the most epic meltdown in blog history and stealing Peemore’s “Blog Punching Bag” belt?
Plus that weak “You’ve been in prison for the last 2 weeks so the blog has been awesome” dud had Peemore’s clammy hands all over it
Think about it, Blog Brohams. And smoke a phat spliff with the Beeeech Diggity Dawg
RUFF RUFF GRRRRR MEOW
September 12th, 2012 at 3:49 pm
Roosters In The Hen House Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 3:45 pm
Dr_robert Says:
mcclain 5 tackles
burris 9 tackles
wheeler 8 tackles
just keep watching. good players make plays. they don’t take credit for being on the field when other players make plays.
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Ok, I’ll keep watching, thanks.
Kirk Morrison used to have a bunch of 10-15 tackle games. Only problem was they were all 7-10 yds downfield and the D gave up over 200 yds rushing. That’s my point, certain stats don’t always tell the whole story. Give me some actual examples of McClain making bad plays, not just stat lines, they don’t mean jack to me. Kirk Morrison was a FF stud, on the gridiron, not so much. I’m a Raiders fan, I want all our players to do good, I’m not gonna hate unless they give me a reason to. I hope McClain can follow it up with another solid performance.
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kirk morrison was actually pretty good. he got the blame but it was thomas howard and the other LB’s fault. mcclain is a puzz and rarely attacks. just wait and see when he loses his job at the end of the year. and NO ONE gives him a starting job.
it’s really simple. a good MLB is in the middle of the field with a d-line tying up blockers in front of him. he should make LOTS of tackles sideline to sideline. mcclain isn’t very invlolved, meaning he gets blocked successfully a LOT.
September 12th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
Expect the offense to be more vertical Sunday, count on it .
And McClain did look good Monday, I said the linebackers were fine, but we had no push up front rivers had all the time he needed except for first series.
I felt when we were behind the play calling stunk!!
September 12th, 2012 at 3:51 pm
Morrison made tackles but he was not dominant!
Howard was more effective, but again the system and scheme stunk!
September 12th, 2012 at 3:51 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
310.raiderinparadise Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 3:43 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 3:35 pm
Think that Hagen will have a big game this week?
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haygenn is the best WR ever
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Clarify, big game for a 3rd/4th receiver. Seems like Palmer is pretty comfortable throwing him the ball and another week to prepare…
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Well … not sold on that … I think Moore and DHb will start with Criner/Streater … Hagan will get some special teams work and see the field less this game.
September 12th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
Beeech is so jealous of Klas new found fame.
September 12th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
322.DennisAllensVisor Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 3:47 pm
Fitz having no QB scares me though..
Jordy is tough to give up.
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I was just looking at AZ’s schedule…some pretty tough defenses with down-right scary QB play.
September 12th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
The entire transition of the offense was handled improperly.
The majority of our weapons on offense including the QB were drafted or acquired using the Al Davis, vertical, stretch the field, power scheme philosophy.
We do not have the player personnel to fully implement what Knapp is trying to do!
Saunders should have been made the OC with Knapp as HIS adviser, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND!!!
Then Knapp’s plan could be slowly integrated over the next season or two as we acquire the best players to implement that scheme!
This entire thing was handled completely AZZ BACKWARDS from the start!!!
As a result…J Raider has started the OFFICIAL:
“FIRE”, “DEMOTE”, “RELIEVE OF PLAYCALLING DUTIES” GREG KNAPP” PETITION!!!
Whatever language you prefer makes no difference to me!!!
*J-Raider
*MonumentRaider
*EMRaiders
*JB
*Al_is_Theraiders
*Raiderimmortal
*Elraidmanhattan
*DKnight007
*Marks Hair
*ArmChairGM
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*RaidO
*Armond
*Drray
*RaiderDav
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*Raiderman99
*R8eray
*Dakota
*DJ Johnny
*Oakfoshow
*Guest123
*TxRaider210
*Turducken
*Johnnylama
*Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush)
*RaiderDuck
*DutchRaider77
*exlaraiderseasonticketholder
*The Big Banana
*Walrushooker
*Klas Tjorborn
*IndianaRaider
*bigfoot
*DKnight007
*DMAC
*JT
*NYRaider
*JohnnyRaider
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*R8er Mike
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*Dan78
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REINSTATE AL SAUNDERS AS THE PRIMARY PLAY CALLER AND REASSIGN GREG KNAPP TO QB COACH TO HELP TERRELLE PRYOR DEVELOP!!
THIS IS THE MOST LOGICAL THING TO GET OPTIMUM PERFORMANCE FROM OUR PLAYERS AND STILL HAVE A CHANCE TO WIN THE DIVISION!!!
September 12th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
biachi, biachi, biachi, you have now gone into Jamista Clown paranoid schizophrenia territory. I am Raider Rob? I mean weed makes people paranoid, but you have gone over the edge. You might want to put down the ganj, go to the hospital and check yourself in. Finally. And while you are doing that, we will create your award for Most Boring Blog Personality. Along with a spiffy certificate, you win a $5 gift certificate to the Olive Garden salad bar. Congrats!
September 12th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
Thinking about getting a Knapp jersey, what number should it be?
September 12th, 2012 at 3:54 pm
The Beeech Dawg Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 3:47 pm
PM PARTY POSSE N FULL EFFECT
Brahs, we all know by now that Klas is really Albert Bigelo Puss’s newest super gay sock puppet
There is ALSO strong suspicion that Nob Minion is actually one of Peemore Bust’s legion of puppets
How else do you explain him having the most epic meltdown in blog history and stealing Peemore’s “Blog Punching Bag” belt?
Plus that weak “You’ve been in prison for the last 2 weeks so the blog has been awesome” dud had Peemore’s clammy hands all over it
Think about it, Blog Brohams. And smoke a phat spliff with the Beeeech Diggity Dawg
RUFF RUFF GRRRRR MEOW
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aww. he’s trying really hard to get the blog to like him now. that’s cute.
for some reason, he thinks if he can tie me in to someone he thinks the blog doesn’t like, he can get them to not like me too.
meltdown–haha–oh no, i’m melting, i’m melting, what a cruel world. just cuz u say it doesn’t make it so, nimrod.
and poor klas–now beeech doesn’t like u. poor guy.
September 12th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
Welcome to the stinkcapades!!! Staaarring greeeegg knapp!!!!
September 12th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 3:45 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
309.DennisAllensVisor Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 3:42 pm
What do you guys think of this trade?
Brees & Fitzgerald
for
Cutler, Jordy & Alfred Morris
__________________________________________________
Are you getting the Cutler or giving?
—-
Im getting Breez/Fitz
=========
Fitz has no QB and Breez is playing ok…on the other hand Cutler is playing like his old self with Marshall and Jordy will be #1 by end of season.
Do it!
September 12th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
Beeech is so jealous of Klas new found fame.
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LOL!
September 12th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
Chad Johnson charged with domestic violence in Florida…chad Johnson will not be a raider, I think that is profoundly clear.
September 12th, 2012 at 4:00 pm
Thinking about getting a Knapp jersey, what number should it be?
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It should be 0 for the amount of Td’s his offense scores …
September 12th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
I see I touched a nerve. I am positive RGIII will be the best player in redskin history & is head & shoulders a better player than elway & young at this stage in their careers. Not only is far far more talented, but he also is better at reading defense, manipulating defense,calling audibles, and is far more accurate & polished in the pocket. Any athletic comparison to elway & young would be beyond laughable.
I am not basing this on 1 game like many on this blog that have yet to have actually see him play, I watched nearly every snap he has taken as a collegiate & pro.
Madden is right & I wish we could get a guy like that to take our offense into the new football paradigm
September 12th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
elraidmanhattan Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
Thinking about getting a Knapp jersey, what number should it be?
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2.2 as in RUN DMC’s avg per rush
September 12th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
New post bishes
September 12th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
favorite lame thing about beeech (of MANY):
he says he’s putting together a reggae band and he comes up with RASTA GANJA. LOL! i mean he shoulda just called it WEED DREADLOCKS. come up with two words that are highly associated with reggae and use them. very impressive originality.
how about MARLEY SPLIFF?
or JAMAICAN HIGH? oh wait, that could be a great movie title about a couple kids who move to kingston and go to high school there.
September 12th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
Elraidmanhattan Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
Thinking about getting a Knapp jersey, what number should it be?
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Klas would say 00, but that would be insult to Jim Otto. Can you put letters on it. How bout ZZZZ
September 12th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
DAV – LMAO sell insurance… LOL
September 12th, 2012 at 4:05 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 12th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
I am positive RGIII will be the best player in redskin history & is head & shoulders a better player than elway & young at this stage in their careers. Not only is far far more talented, but he also is better at reading defense, manipulating defense,calling audibles, and is far more accurate & polished in the pocket. Any athletic comparison to elway & young would be beyond laughable.
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oh my lord, u have drank the kool-aid on rg3. u MUST CALM DOWN! u have rg3 in the HOF already. who cares about baylor? college performance means nothing. he looked very good. but for crying out loud.
September 12th, 2012 at 5:25 pm
I,m back. What did I miss.