Raiders prepare for Miami heat
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, September 13th, 2012 at 12:00 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Thursday’s noon post . . .
When the Raiders took the field for practice Thursday it was a breezy day with temperatures inching into the 60s.
In other words, nothing to prepare them for the cauldron of heat and humidity that awaits them Sunday in Miami. The Dolphins, of course choose to wear white, meaning the Raiders will be in their heat-retaining black jerseys.
The forecast is for temperatures in the mid-80s, humidity in the 70 percent range and a chance of thunderstorms.
There is little the Raiders can do about except hydrate and maybe substitute a little more if possible.
In the opener each member of the starting defensive line played more than 40 snaps _ right end Matt Shaughnessy (48), defensive tackles Tommy Kelly (46) and Richard Seymour (42) and left end Lamarr Houston (46).
The main reserves, end Dave Tollefson and tackle Desmond Bryant, had 24 and 16 respectively. The Raiders are likely to increase their snaps and reduce those of the starters, while also using rookie Christo Bilukidi, who had nine snaps against San Diego.
“Obviously when you really take into account the Miami heat, we’re going to have to do a good job with our rotation and keeping those guys fresh and keeping them where they’ll be at their best in the fourth quarter,’’ coach Dennis Allen said.
The Raiders, particularly those from southern home towns, aren’t wasting a lot of time worrying about the heat.
“Man, I’m from Jackson, Mississippi,’’ Kelly said. “I’ll be all right.’’
Middle linebacker Rolando McClain, from Decatur, Ala., wasn’t overly concerned, either.
“It’s just hot. It’s not like you died or anything,’’ McClain said. “It’s just a little sun. Drink some water, you’ll be fine.’’
– McClain, who missed practice Wednesday with an ankle injury, was on the field and going through drills, as was Taiwan Jones, who sat out the previous day with a rib injury.
– Stefen Wisniewski opened with the first team for the second straight day during group drills.
– Wide receiver Denarius Moore apparently bounced back without any issues a day after quarterback Carson Palmer said he made some “phenomenal’’ catches.
– Practice squad long-snapper Nick Guess was working on field goal snaps on the far field with holder Shane Lechler and place kicker Sebastian Janikowski. Jon Condo, recovering from a concussion, was leaving the facility as practice began.
– After a review of the coaches tape, rookie linebacker Miles Burris had his number of tackles increase from nine to 12.
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September 13th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
Humidity Busters
September 13th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
Nice job burris
September 13th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
Fire 2 coaches
September 13th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
Miami- 34
Oakland- 6
(from previous post)
The Raiders without doubt will be 0-4 at the bye, and you can bet it wont be Palmer starting the Falcons game,…When the Raiders head to LA you can bet the new majority owners wont keep that big dummy Reggie around. When you look at it the way I do, going 1-15 isnt so bad. I see nothing wrong with supporting the Niners, I am a huge Harbaugh fan and I hope they win it all this year, and I see no reason why they wont, they are easily the best team in the NFL…so join me, support Harbaugh, its real football over there, not what the Raiders are doing, which is laying down. Having lunch today in a cool spot in Placerville, Cosmic Cafe,…take care now.
September 13th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
Palmer had 46 pass attempts, 2 were over 20yds. None completed.
September 13th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
Out of a cannon
September 13th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
Oh I dont believe you Kell, lets see the link.
September 13th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
Please dont play football like you have bagina’s on sunday.. thanx
September 13th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
Palmer had 46 pass attempts, 2 were over 20yds. None completed.
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Krappy Rat, how many times will you post this informative sentence today?
Vegas has the line at 8-11
September 13th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
Will Lebron be starting at TE?
September 13th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
We will have 200 yards rushing on Sunday.
September 13th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
Palmer had 46 pass attempts, 2 were over 20yds. None were completed.
September 13th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
LOL…..I think we got the message 4 posts previously KK
September 13th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
Hey dont hassle old man Kell today, he got a new Ipad, hes trying to blog from the barber shop and all his cronies are trying to assist him but they all think its an Etch A Sketch.
September 13th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
Excellent work Krappy, keep it up, 5 more times and I’m in the money.
September 13th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
200yds rushing? Are we gonna run to the team bus or something?
September 13th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
Well, well, well … the good ol’ MIA game … the game I have looked at our recent schedules every year and chalked it up as a win and its always a let-down game.
Time to slap this team around and get to 1-1 before two tough games in Pitt and Denver.
September 13th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
Palmer attempted 46 passes, 2 were over 20yds. None were completed.
September 13th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
Old man Kell attempted 46 different ways to achieve an erection,..none was completed.
September 13th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
Pit dungver and atl are going to rape our b-holes
September 13th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
We are going to carry a big lead into the 4th quarter and amass a bunch of end of game rushing totals.
We will have one of those crazy 40+ carry games from the team.
September 13th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
AmysInCharge Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
Old man Kell attempted 46 different ways to achieve an erection,..none was completed.
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Sorry, I couldn’t get it up for you, but, I wasn’t attracted.
September 13th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
Go ahead and focus your attention on Burris and his tackles…and never mind that he was the culprit responsible for the blocked punt…not blocking the man to his inside (#88)….
If you watch the film….he didn’t block him on Goethel’s first snap as well…..if it had been a good snap….would have also been blocked…..
In a way…Goethel’s first snap saved a possible touchdown….since Burris obviously received no proper coaching….prior to or even during the game to make an adjustment….
I blame the Special Teams Coordinator….not Burris….
Either way, Coach Hoffman shouldn’t have a job…..
Good ole’ boy system isn’t going to work fella’s….
And as I said before……no pressure this week Coach!
September 13th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
As long as we keep LeBron out of the paint and stop the fast break, we have a chance.
September 13th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
AmysInCharge Says: September 13th, 2012 at 12:07 pmMiami- 34Oakland- 6(from previous post)The Raiders without doubt will be 0-4 at the bye, and you can bet it wont be Palmer starting the Falcons game,…When the Raiders head to LA you can bet the new majority owners wont keep that big dummy Reggie around. When you look at it the way I do, going 1-15 isnt so bad. I see nothing wrong with supporting the Niners, I am a huge Harbaugh fan and I hope they win it all this year, and I see no reason why they wont, they are easily the best team in the NFL…so join me, support Harbaugh, its real football over there, not what the Raiders are doing, which is laying down. Having lunch today in a cool spot in Placerville, Cosmic Cafe,…take care now.
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Eff the niners you are a freaking loser, go kick rocks at a San Francisco gay bar it can be your favorite 1 for all I care
September 13th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
It’s early in the season but Miami is a must win. No doubt about that.
September 13th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
AmysInCharge Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
Old man Kell attempted 46 different ways to achieve an erection,..none was completed.
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Sorry, I couldn’t get it up for you, but, I wasn’t attracted.
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At least you gave it the good ole Krappy Rat try. Maybe next time, eh geezer?
September 13th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
With the new coach, 4-4 and I will be happy. It’s what we do in the 2nd half of the season that matters to me.
September 13th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
Harbaugh has never won anything in his life and he never will…..both rothers wont
September 13th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
16 game schedule, and Manning with Denver …. 10-11 of our games are a must win.
8 or 9 this year won’t help. This team needs to improve weekly and get healthy.
September 13th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
Alexis smith will choke in the end as always…..all smoke and mirrors right now
September 13th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
Oh come now Bossman, why on Earth go through yet another loser of a season when just over the bridge theres real football, not to mention they have already clinched the west and home field advantage,..come on over for good times and success, leave the losing and misery behind.
September 13th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
Bossman, Alex Smith has played the Raiders twice, 2-0…next question.
September 13th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
We just got to find a way to hover around .500 by Thanksgiving weekend.
From there go on a 3-4 game winning streak and we are right in the thick of things, playing our best ball at the end of the season.
September 13th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
30. Yup said it since they signed egghead.. we need 10 to 11 wins minimum.
September 13th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
I love the fact that Al Davis is and was so ahead of the curve. His final draft pick is the guy im dying to see. Terrell pryor is a qb that has a very high ceiling as a play maker and in the right offense will could be a dynamic force. he was able to move knapps offense and make it far more explosive then the other qb on the team, and i believe it is because his athleticism dictates a certain reaction from the defense i this offense, and is clearly a notch higher than most guys trying to stop him
I think we need to follow along with other teams are now doing. pryor like RGIII and Newton would thrive in a spread shotgun heavy attack. His skill set would work very well with the zone runnig scheme as we saw in the pre season, because he is always a threat to keep the ball on p[lay fakes. he has the speed to make it happen with his feet, he can also set up and deliver an accurate pass out of the pocket. Most encouraging was his patience and his ability to go through reads in the pocket and pick out the single coverage, even while being blitzed to death behind a o line full of back ups amp camp fodder.
I hope D.A and BIg MCK are paying close attention to what happens in carolina and washington this year.
lets scrap this 1990’s version of the wco, gary kubiak and matt shcaubb wanna be stuff, and move into the new football paradigm. our offense is clearly behind the times and chock full of miscast misfits for this scheme.
That being said though it should be noted that carson played his best game as a raider last week, and he does did look competent in this offense. I still though think there is an entire world of possibilities in the new versions of the wco that we simply will never get to se with palmer running the show.
Still though palmer and what we have now should be more than enough to beat miami, tanny hill is over matched. This game will be about turn overs and defense.
September 13th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
boss01 Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
Harbaugh has never won anything in his life and he never will…..both rothers wont
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That’s pathetic … they both won their divisions last year and both lost in NFC/AFC chapionships games off fluke reasons.
I would take either coach in a heartbeat.
September 13th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
Are you freakin serious??? Mid 80’s with 70% Humidity? Thats a freakin cold front compared to how how it COULD be down there. Try 98 degrees and 95% humidity.
They are going to be fine. Jesus. Can we drop the “Heat” talk now? Jesus.
September 13th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 11:56 am
@Raider Riff
You weren’t disappointed that Reece wasn’t more involved in the passing game? Heck with all the receivers down, I wouldn’t minded seeing DMAC, Reece and the Beer Truck (for blocking) all on the field at the same time…
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I was disappointed. But that is on Reece. He held out and came into the fold late. I said it while he was holding out and it looks to be true.
But Reece not being involved wasnt the problem. We had our chances to win easy. The players did not execute.
September 13th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
Only NorcoAmy would believe a 1-0 team has “clinched home field.” Also, even if your “sources” were correct, why wouldn’t the new owners keep Reggie? We’re in year one of a total rebuild and it’s coming along nicely, if not without growing pains.
September 13th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
All I know is that this Hamptonn Inn in Taos better have the NFL network.
You would generally assume something like that, but than we are talking about New Mexico here.
September 13th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
In other words, nothing to prepare them for the cauldron of heat and humidity that awaits them Sunday in Miami.
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You have GOT to be kidding me. COULDRON OF HEAT????!?!
LMFAO! Jerry Come on Man!
September 13th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
Becuase Duckie, Mark didnt do his research, he was lied to about Reggie and he bought it,..interviewed nobody else for GM job,…the rest of the league is laughing that the Raiders have a big fat baffoon as a GM,…ever hear him talk?…retarded is putting it nicely.
September 13th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
I hope D.A and BIg MCK are paying close attention to what happens in carolina and washington this year.
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Me too, as both teams will probably finish dead last in their division.
September 13th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
10-6 season is a MUST.
September 13th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
Didnt reece miss like one practice all camp? I didnt get why we werent faking to dmac and tossing reece screens more..
September 13th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
80 degrees 80% humidty is hot!
September 13th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
Marks Hair Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 11:48 am
Riff. The point to a fire sale is to get worse. To get the top pick a couple of yrs in a row.. and to collect as many other picks as you can. As i said its all about a franchise qb and a passrush..
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Ok. I get the passrush concern. Because, straight up, Shonasty got owned Monday Nite. He owes us big for not delivering.
But QB? QB’s are not drafted, they are developed. So whether we tank or not, we have to develop a QB. They can be found in any round of the draft.
Furthermore, we have one on the team. That has a few of the intangibles of a GREAT QB.
- Hard Work
- Composure
- Durability
- Charisma/Leadership
He’s also missing a few rather important things…
- Accuracy
- Some mechanics such as footwork and throwing motion
- Football IQ and experience
If were going to develop a new QB, why not go with him? Why tank a season just to draft a guy that out of the box, wont be any better.
Tanking to get a D-Lineman may make sense. But at the hypothetical 0-5 you suggested, we might not need a fire sale to do so.
September 13th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
I hope D.A and BIg MCK are paying close attention to what happens in carolina and washington this year.
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Me too, as both teams will probably finish dead last in their division.
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You hope, of course.
September 13th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
PALMER needs a run game to set-up his strength … throwing the deep ball.
I thought Palmer looked more polished, couple mistakes, but all QB’s make them, especially with 0 run game, he could of imploded, but he was taking what the defense gave him.
MIA’s D is a diff scheme and talent base … OAK should be able to get the wheels going on the ground.
September 13th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
September 13th, 2012 at 12:31 pmboss01 Says:September 13th, 2012 at 12:26 pmHarbaugh has never won anything in his life and he never will…..both rothers wont——–That’s pathetic … they both won their divisions last year and both lost in NFC/AFC chapionships games off fluke reasons.I would take either coach in a heartbeat.
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Pathetic? And what happened in those games? Their teams choked plus both inherited great defenses so they dont even deserve credit for those division titles and go root for them….thats where all the gay fans go root
September 13th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
AmysInCharge Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
Becuase Duckie, Mark didnt do his research, he was lied to about Reggie and he bought it,..interviewed nobody else for GM job,…the rest of the league is laughing that the Raiders have a big fat baffoon as a GM,…ever hear him talk?…retarded is putting it nicely.
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Riiiiiiight. That’s why Green Bay had Reggie as their #2 guy behind Ted Thompson for YEARS and why Chicago was (rumor has it) going to straight-up offer Reggie the job without even an interview as soon as she showed up to their offices (which is why Mark hired him on the spot).
BTW, aren’t you the same guy who once posted that Al had it in his will that the team would be renamed, so “The Raiders will die with him?” Other than your admittedly correct JaMarcus prognostication, you ain’t exactly batting 1000.
September 13th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
We just got to find a way to hover around .500 by Thanksgiving weekend.
From there go on a 3-4 game winning streak and we are right in the thick of things, playing our best ball at the end of the season.
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Agreed. But it wont be possible if we keep giving up games we are supposed to win (SanDiusky)
We now MUST win a game we all thought we might lose to get back on track. I dont see that happening if we cant beat the snot out of the Fins.
September 13th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
AmysInCharge Says: September 13th, 2012 at 12:29 pmBossman, Alex Smith has played the Raiders twice, 2-0…next question.
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Yeah against jamarcus and mclown……plus he didnt beat anyone….its the defense the credit goes to and frank gore
September 13th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
After a review of the coaches tape, rookie linebacker Miles Burris had his number of tackles increase from nine to 12.//////////That’s a Wow!
September 13th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
@Mistic1
Cam is good, but why put the whole game on his sholders? Carolina ran the ball like 6-7 times? They have good backs…
September 13th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
Lol, ya, the Bears were going to make Big Dummy their GM,..thats what Reggies agent told Mark anyway. No never said anything about renaming the team, not me.
September 13th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
Boss01 Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
AmysInCharge Says: September 13th, 2012 at 12:29 pmBossman, Alex Smith has played the Raiders twice, 2-0…next question.
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Yeah against jamarcus and mclown……plus he didnt beat anyone….its the defense the credit goes to and frank gore
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Yeah, the credit should go to our D. For giving up that game like they have in so many others.
September 13th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
Ok, Bossman, but if you dont think Smith is better then all the Raiders qb`s combined youre just in denial because you hate Smith, but hes far and away better then anyone on Oaklands roster,…I think hes awesome, and yep he beat the Raiders twice.
September 13th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
I am suprised that so many semis are picking the Raiders to beat the fins.
In years past the vibe would be more negative. Maybe its just me.
September 13th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
Anyway, heading back up to Meeks Bay,…hey if the Niners and Raiders played this year it would be like,..oh,… 48-3,…print that kiddies, Im real,..cya!
September 13th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
AmysInCharge Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
Miami- 34
Oakland- 6
(from previous post)
The Raiders without doubt will be 0-4 at the bye, and you can bet it wont be Palmer starting the Falcons game,…When the Raiders head to LA you can bet the new majority owners wont keep that big dummy Reggie around. When you look at it the way I do, going 1-15 isnt so bad. I see nothing wrong with supporting the Niners, I am a huge Harbaugh fan and I hope they win it all this year, and I see no reason why they wont, they are easily the best team in the NFL…so join me, support Harbaugh, its real football over there, not what the Raiders are doing, which is laying down. Having lunch today in a cool spot in Placerville, Cosmic Cafe,…take care now.
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You were credible until this post.
The Raiders are not “laying down”. I know for a fact that Reggie thinks we are deep-in-the-playoffs good. Im baffled as to why you are saying the org is laying down.
Go support the Niners if you want.
No true Raider fan wants to see the Niners do anything but finish 0-16
September 13th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
Someones poodle’s are going to madder then wet cats if bossman switches teams
September 13th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
I think qbs are drafted way more often than developed.. most greats show early.. most greats come from the first rd.. especially recently. And with the new cba qbs will continue to get drafted high.. i like cp3. But it can only last a few yrs.. we arent close
September 13th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
boss01 Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
September 13th, 2012 at 12:31 pmboss01 Says:September 13th, 2012 at 12:26 pmHarbaugh has never won anything in his life and he never will…..both rothers wont——–That’s pathetic … they both won their divisions last year and both lost in NFC/AFC chapionships games off fluke reasons.I would take either coach in a heartbeat.
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Pathetic? And what happened in those games? Their teams choked plus both inherited great defenses so they dont even deserve credit for those division titles and go root for them….thats where all the gay fans go root
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Right you are brilliant … I guess you left out the fact that Harabaugh made Alex Smith look like a good QB (pro bowl)… and by the way SF had that good defense for years and never won anything.
gay fans? Your shallow minded. what an idiot.
Your an embarrassment to raider fans, you prob wear a faded RUSSELL jersey on your moms couch and yell at your TV for John Madden to be coach again.
Harabaugh … either one is a proven winning coach.
We haven’t had a winning season in 10 years? you ok with that? Or do you just focus on calling 49er fans gay? because SF is 100% gay people right? OAK has been a joke, complete joke … set records for penalties, 11 loss seasons, new coach every year, draft busts, and you really think about calling out teams with success?
Whatta hater.
September 13th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
Plunketthead Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
I am suprised that so many semis are picking the Raiders to beat the fins.
In years past the vibe would be more negative. Maybe its just me.
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I dunno if any of us are saying that. We are just saying it is a MUST WIN.
0-2 and the season is down the drain and nobody wants to see that, well, maybe AmysInCharge does.
September 13th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
@Mistic1
Cam is good, but why put the whole game on his sholders? Carolina ran the ball like 6-7 times? They have good backs…
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10 yards total rushing, three sacks, Cam wont last the season if that mess doesn’t clean up asap.
September 13th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
Throwing away a yr sure helped Indianapolis.
September 13th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
stop hating movement 2012 lol
September 13th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says: move into the new football paradigm//////////////// Don’t often agree with what you say, Mistic1, but I’ve always liked the way you say it.
September 13th, 2012 at 12:53 pm
beat Miami, KC, Jags and take 1 from Pitt, ATL, and Den. 2nd half, beat Cin, Tampa, Cle, KC, Carolina, and take 1 from Den, SD, NO, or Bal.
There’s your 10-6.
September 13th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
Houston averaged less than 3.0 yds per carry against Miami’s front..I dont think 200yds rushing is how we win this one..Defense needs to hold them..Offense needs to MAKE PLAYS!!!
September 13th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
Marks Hair Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
I think qbs are drafted way more often than developed.. most greats show early.. most greats come from the first rd.. especially recently. And with the new cba qbs will continue to get drafted high.. i like cp3. But it can only last a few yrs.. we arent close
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The statistics show otherwise.
A QB has to come into the right system, not get his bell rung and be shell shocked, have stability in the front office and coaching ranks, and have a line to protect him.
The new rules of protecting a QB make the learning curve a little faster. The rules with WR’s make the passing lanes open just a little more.
But there have been VERY few QB’s that have ever not needed significant development. Marino and Elway come to mind. Manning more recently. Brees was damn polished out of college.
If you are going to use Flacco (great team), Ryan (another very stable franchise), Newton (still has a lot of growth to go), or Sanchez (great team) as examples of QB’s that were “drafted” and not developed, then you are not giving those teams that drafted them nearly enough credit.
RG3 walked into a good situation with Shannacrap. Luck is taking major lumps right now. And Wilson looks good but lets see where he is in a couple years, Pete Carrol might not be around long enough to develop the kid.
Look at my list of “ELITE” QB’S and tell me which of those guys werent developed? Rogers. Eli. Brady.
September 13th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
And aren’t there a bunch of new faces in here? Do I need a cheat sheet? Or, heaven forbid, have to read all the posts?
September 13th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
Good job finding that Burris kid, Reggie. I’ll give you that one.
September 13th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
Marks Hair Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
Throwing away a yr sure helped Indianapolis.
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Only if Luck survives the rebuild process.
The Bills learned that the hard way with that QB that was with us briefly last year (I forget his name, played at Stanford I think). He was a VERY good QB. Took too many hits and got permanent happy feet.
September 13th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
Raider Riff Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
The Bills learned that the hard way with that QB that was with us briefly last year (I forget his name, played at Stanford I think). He was a VERY good QB. Took too many hits and got permanent happy feet.
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Trent “Captain Checkdown” Edwards.
September 13th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
Raider Riff , dead on. Elway got seriously abused and especially by us during his first couple of years. Don’t remember Marino needing that much break in.
September 13th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
Aig-Raiders Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 12:53 pm
beat Miami, KC, Jags and take 1 from Pitt, ATL, and Den. 2nd half, beat Cin, Tampa, Cle, KC, Carolina, and take 1 from Den, SD, NO, or Bal.
There’s your 10-6.
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Maybe Im making too big a deal about the Monday Nite loss, that was maybe largely due to the loss of Condo. Maybe 10-6 is still possible if we limp past the Fins.
I need Sunday to come fast.
September 13th, 2012 at 12:59 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
Raider Riff Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
The Bills learned that the hard way with that QB that was with us briefly last year (I forget his name, played at Stanford I think). He was a VERY good QB. Took too many hits and got permanent happy feet.
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Trent “Captain Checkdown” Edwards.
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Thats right. He had very good potential. Too many hits too young.
September 13th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
Has anyone mentioned what sort of contract the coaches are working under? I hope they are 3 years with a 4th year option.
I would love to see some stability for a change and Mark seems to be the man who can deliver.
TP might stick around for a longtime as well if DA and Knapple believe he is a good fit for the system they are installing here.
September 13th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
Take a look at Rothlisberger, he came onto a team that only passed the ball 12 times a game his rookie year. They went 15-1.
Even he had a learning curve.
If were going to develop a guy, we might as well develop TP. No use in wasting a draft pick on another QB and starting over. He has the work ethic to be great, that is enough for me.
If we get a high pick, I want a game changing DE or a franchise O-Lineman. There doesnt look to be any Larry Fitz’s or Megatrons in the draft so I’ll pass on WR for now.
September 13th, 2012 at 1:03 pm
Had Rothlisberger been drafted by us instead, he’d probably be out of the league right now.
September 13th, 2012 at 1:03 pm
We can still go 15-1 RRRAAAAIIIDDDERRRSSSSS!!!!!
September 13th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
Ely and rogers were 1st rd picks.. like i said.. ely also started out pretty well.. brady was a late rd gem… very rare also did well early though.. most top qbs come out of the first rd.. and all qbs need some devolopement.. im not saying they dont.. most great passrushers come early too..
September 13th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
15-1!!!!!
15-1!!!!!
15-1!!!!!
15-1!!!!!
September 13th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
Dang Rachael is looking mighty fine today
September 13th, 2012 at 1:06 pm
Plunketthead Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
Has anyone mentioned what sort of contract the coaches are working under? I hope they are 3 years with a 4th year option.
I would love to see some stability for a change and Mark seems to be the man who can deliver.
TP might stick around for a longtime as well if DA and Knapple believe he is a good fit for the system they are installing here.
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I believe that Mark wants stability too. He will stick with Reggie until Reggie is too stubborn to switch HC’s if the need to do so is there. And I think Reggie will stick with DA so long as DA is willing to dump any OC or DC that isnt getting the job done.
Whether they all believe in TP or not is a mystery. The kid is still here, and I think that has 99% to do with his work ethic.
We’ll know going into next season how they really feel about him if they give him a shot to earn the #2 spot. He needs reps, we saw how much better he gets when he gets the reps. Time will tell how the coaches/GM feel.
September 13th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
Plunketthead Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
I am suprised that so many semis are picking the Raiders to beat the fins.
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I am surprised the Raiders are currently favored by 3, considering how poorly they have played in Miami in recent years. The Fins must be in pretty bad shape
September 13th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
Right now the best case scenario for the season as I see it:
SD – Loss
@MIA – Win
PIT – Loss
@DEN – Loss
@ATL – Loss
JAX – Win
@KC – Loss
TB – Win
@BAL – Loss
NO – Loss
@CIN – Win
CLE – Win
DEN – Win
KC – Win
@CAR – Win
@SD – Win
9-7, end the season on a nice winning streak, maybe sneak a Wild Card if other teams collapse and go with good momentum into the offseason and next year.
Keep in mind of course, that’s the best case scenario, but I don’t think it’s necessarily outside the realm of possibility
September 13th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
Im looking at a rebuilding team… why not scrap all the parts that dont fit our vision? Why wait?
September 13th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
Man I was watching Hue jacksons week 17 post game monday press conference.. wow Hue seemed like he was gonna have a plan coming into this off season. I would have really liked to see how he would have got this team back on track. Was talking about what they needed to in the off season.. the players he wanted to bring in.
I see where he went wrong… he talked about he hoped the org would let do what he had to do.. now that he coached for a year he had a an idea who he wanted. Said if they didnt let him then he didnt need to be here. MAN what could have been smh
September 13th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
We’re sweeping KC this year. They’re going to fall off harder than people think.
September 13th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
there are not a lot of completely dominant teams out there. Maybe the Whiners and the Ravens. And they are one injury away from being mediocre. Raiders can still win it all!!
September 13th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
Damn, Intrade has 0bama up to 64%
http://www.intrade.com/v4/markets/contract/?contractId=743474
September 13th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
So i finally had time to sit down and watch coaches film on nfl game rewind and i thought I’d share my thoughts.
Most obvious is that alex parsons got abused. Constantly getting pushed back, missing blocks at the second level. His pass protection is ok, missed a few blocks, but his man was constantly making the tackle on runs.
Carlisle got abused in the second half in the run game,
Heyward bey butchered that seam route that carson was pissed about. Its a touchdown if he just keeps running.
Matt Giordano did not get pushed on that touchdown pass that he complained to the ref about.
Carson was constantly checking down to McFadden while crossing routes were just coming open. Several times it was because he was pressured, but others he was just rushing.
On Defense, McClain played good, as did Huff. Branch had cover issues though,
The flat was open all night which resulted in short passes becoming 8 yard gains.
For the most part the defense was good.
Regarding the playbook, the route combinations are very basic. I saw no creativity.
I hate the zone blocking scheme but im willing to admit that the o-line blocked like crap. Hopefully wiz can start and make a difference.
In all its just one game but if the o line doesnt step up and give carson confidence while standing back there, this will be a long season.
September 13th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
The Raiders have a playoff caliber defense, even tho the CB position is so bad and thin, the back end and from 7 are very good.
The offense was playoff caliber last year even thru a rash of bad injuries. The season is on Knapp and the o-line in the ZBS scheme.
Face it.
September 13th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
We dont usually win back east.. 10-6 seems wishfull
September 13th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
Man hue was talking about the goal was to win a championship and to get better then average. Its gonna take a while for some fans to get over hue now.. Especially after watching KNAPPY in action.. if they dont show something this sun its gonna suck
September 13th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
Marks Hair Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
Ely and rogers were 1st rd picks.. like i said.. ely also started out pretty well.. brady was a late rd gem… very rare also did well early though.. most top qbs come out of the first rd.. and all qbs need some devolopement.. im not saying they dont.. most great passrushers come early too..
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Most top QB’s do not come out of the 1st round. I dont have the numbers in front of me but I remember it being broken down on the radio once and it was found that draft status has no bearing on how you end up in your career. Too many variables. The biggest one being that if a team drafts you high in the first round, its probably because they suck, and so the odds of your success are pretty slim.
Good teams can find a QB at any point in the draft and develop them.
If Aaron Rogers or Eli Manning get drafted by the Raiders, we can safely say that they would not both be wearing SuperBowl rings right now.
September 13th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
Man I was watching Hue jacksons week 17 post game monday press conference.. wow Hue seemed like he was gonna have a plan coming into this off season.
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What plan was that do you think? Not play .200 ball to end the season?
September 13th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
SR
Good point. The fins must be horrible and stopping the run last week was a fluke.
I hope so because as everyone knows, we have the same playbook
Gary Kubiak brought it with him when he left the mules and he got it from the nastyrat.
September 13th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
Palmer attempted 46 passes, 2 were over 20yds. None were completed.
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Yup, both were dropped.
on the same types of throws down the field that Rivers can trust the likes of Gates and Floyd to pull in.
STRONG HANDS and the will to win the 1-1 battle with the defender when it is asked of them.
Our receivers lack that. DHB has done that ONCE in his career. In the preseason game VS the Lions this year.
I liked his improvement last year, but for the most part, he doesnt make any difficult plays. only the straightforward catches when no one is prying at his hands or making it difficult to catch the ball.
Palmer needs to find out who he can trust. Guys he can throw it to even when they’re covered along the sidelines, etc. Rivers makes those throws 5+ times per game to his big receivers…because he TRUSTS their ability to pull the ball down even with a corner hanging on their hip. Those throws can easily be picks, instead they’re elite offensive CHUNK plays more times than not.
September 13th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
Still don’t understand how some fear the upcoming Manning years in Denver when he is pushing 37 years of age and writing off Palmer as waning or over the hill at age 32. Several years left to mentor TPryor if that’s our future, and lead us to the promised land. Knapp be dammed.
September 13th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
Marks Hair Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
Im looking at a rebuilding team… why not scrap all the parts that dont fit our vision? Why wait?
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You may be right.
But Reggie feels otherwise.
As do most smart prognosticators. Dilfer said that we have a VERY high ceiling and very low floor. He didnt know where we’d end up and felt like it wouldnt be a surprise either way.
September 13th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
100. Id go find those #s.. and make sure theyre from the last 15 yrs..
September 13th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
Raiderinparadise Says: September 13th, 2012 at 12:47 pmboss01 Says:September 13th, 2012 at 12:39 pmSeptember 13th, 2012 at 12:31 pmboss01 Says:September 13th, 2012 at 12:26 pmHarbaugh has never won anything in his life and he never will…..both rothers wont——–That’s pathetic … they both won their divisions last year and both lost in NFC/AFC chapionships games off fluke reasons.I would take either coach in a heartbeat.————–Pathetic? And what happened in those games? Their teams choked plus both inherited great defenses so they dont even deserve credit for those division titles and go root for them….thats where all the gay fans go root——-Right you are brilliant … I guess you left out the fact that Harabaugh made Alex Smith look like a good QB (pro bowl)… and by the way SF had that good defense for years and never won anything.gay fans? Your shallow minded. what an idiot.Your an embarrassment to raider fans, you prob wear a faded RUSSELL jersey on your moms couch and yell at your TV for John Madden to be coach again.Harabaugh … either one is a proven winning coach.We haven’t had a winning season in 10 years? you ok with that? Or do you just focus on calling 49er fans gay? because SF is 100% gay people right? OAK has been a joke, complete joke … set records for penalties, 11 loss seasons, new coach every year, draft busts, and you really think about calling out teams with success?Whatta hater.
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Success? Dont be dilusional…..I know you are on the loser harbaughs jocks because you are gay. So go root for your loser niners and while youre at it dont post in a raider blog for this is a true raider fan blog….we do not accept gay losers with handles that include the word paradise….plenty of niner blogs to discuss the niners choking in the end
September 13th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
Dilfers a goof..
September 13th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
Daraider09 Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
Palmer attempted 46 passes, 2 were over 20yds. None were completed.
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Yup, both were dropped.
on the same types of throws down the field that Rivers can trust the likes of Gates and Floyd to pull in.
STRONG HANDS and the will to win the 1-1 battle with the defender when it is asked of them.
Our receivers lack that. DHB has done that ONCE in his career. In the preseason game VS the Lions this year.
I liked his improvement last year, but for the most part, he doesnt make any difficult plays. only the straightforward catches when no one is prying at his hands or making it difficult to catch the ball.
Palmer needs to find out who he can trust. Guys he can throw it to even when they’re covered along the sidelines, etc. Rivers makes those throws 5+ times per game to his big receivers…because he TRUSTS their ability to pull the ball down even with a corner hanging on their hip. Those throws can easily be picks, instead they’re elite offensive CHUNK plays more times than not.
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The ‘”Will to win” is sorely missed on our WR corps. D17 has it. Streater might. But so far, nobody else does.
I love DHB but he had a prime chance to make a case to be a legit #1 when he got that deep ball thrown his way. D17 comes down with that ball, just like he did against SanDiusky the last time and Buffalo early last year. DHB didnt, just like he didnt against the Chargers last year and the Lions last year.
It’s put up or shut up time in MIami.
September 13th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
Palmer attempted 46 passes, 2 were over 20yds. None were completed.////////////////////////Who you bichen about KK? Palmer, Knapp, or the receivers? ’cause you’re always bichen about something. When you’re not sharing the new york times with us.
September 13th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
Marks Hair Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
Dilfers a goof..
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Really? Dude, youre smarter than that.
Dilfer has an extremely high football IQ. If you think he doesnt know what he’s talking about, you might want to check your credentials.
September 13th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
Plunketthead Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
Has anyone mentioned what sort of contract the coaches are working under? I hope they are 3 years with a 4th year option.
I would love to see some stability for a change and Mark seems to be the man who can deliver.
TP might stick around for a longtime as well if DA and Knapple believe he is a good fit for the system they are installing here.
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DA’s got a four-year deal. The assistants (except maybe for Saunders) probably have the standard NFL two-year deals.
September 13th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
NEW!~ 090-13-12: IS KNAPP A SLAVE TO THE SYSTEM?
“Combat is highly fluid and subject to change at a
moments notice. Adapt or Perish.”
http://www.raidernationstation.com/2012_regular_season
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All the talk about hybrid this hybrid that. None of it worth much if the weapons are mis-used or worse never unleased…
September 13th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
How many starting qbs were not 1st round picks?
September 13th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
Well first hue was gonna pick his D Cord the guy he wanted in the first place. He was stuck with alot of coaches and Bresnhahan. I will give him that. 525 yard of offense the last week of season.
His last month of football he was without FORD, DMOORE, AND DMAC .. he never had all these guys on the field at once was still able to move the ball. Time will tell if it was the right move getting rid of Hue.
September 13th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
Ive met dilfer hes goofy.. and now hes on tv.. tv heads are goofy.. and he said i wouldnt be surprise either way? Thats not a prediction…
September 13th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
4.AmysInCharge Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
Miami- 34
Oakland- 6
(from previous post)
The Raiders without doubt will be 0-4 at the bye, and you can bet it wont be Palmer starting the Falcons game,…When the Raiders head to LA you can bet the new majority owners wont keep that big dummy Reggie around. When you look at it the way I do, going 1-15 isnt so bad. I see nothing wrong with supporting the Niners, I am a huge Harbaugh fan and I hope they win it all this year, and I see no reason why they wont, they are easily the best team in the NFL…so join me, support Harbaugh, its real football over there, not what the Raiders are doing, which is laying down. Having lunch today in a cool spot in Placerville, Cosmic Cafe,…take care now.
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lol ok, Who are you? If you’re a 49er fan….why are you on a Raiders blog? Are you friends with Albert B Paine?
September 13th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
Palmer attempted 46 passes, 2 were over 20yds. None were completed.
Whether those 2 were dropped or not. 46 attempts only 2 over 20 yds?
Of course there’s no room to run, or run after catch.
September 13th, 2012 at 1:25 pm
Mr. Heisman Lombardi Says:
there are not a lot of completely dominant teams out there. Maybe the Whiners and the Ravens. And they are one injury away from being mediocre. Raiders can still win it all!!//////////////Can’t say a team is dominant after week one. Or call Dallas dominant and I’m not willing to do that. He11, the Raiders “D” was dominant against one of the so called offensive powerhouses.
September 13th, 2012 at 1:25 pm
114.Marks hair Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
How many starting qbs were not 1st round picks?
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Ryan Fitzpatrick
Tom Brady
Andy Dalton
Matt Schaub
Matt Cassel
Tony Romo
Drew Brees
Kevin Kolb
Russell Wilson
9/32…that’s off the top of my head; I may have missed somebody
September 13th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
Palmer attempted 46 passes, 2 were over 20yds. None were completed.
Whether those 2 were dropped or not. 46 attempts only 2 over 20 yds?
Of course there’s no room to run, or run after the Dink.
September 13th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
DHB is fine..the coverage will be different on him when Moore is out there..DHB isn’t a guy like Moore, hes a big target who can run the deep in cut/out cut route (Deep out/deep in/deep curl)..He needs to get the ball in space..Moore will make the big plays in the end zone in coverage..On a good day DHB can too I think..I dont like how we are using him though (Knapp lining him up in the slot??)..That’s not him..That should be streater
September 13th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
Marks Hair Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
How many starting qbs were not 1st round picks?
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Wilson with the Seahawks (3rd)
Skelton with the Cardinals (5th)
Brees with the Saints (2nd)
Romo with the Cowboys (UDFA)
Cassel with the Chiefs (7th)
Dalton with the Bengals (2nd)
Schaub with the Texans (3rd)
Fitzpatrick with the Bills (7th)
Brady with the Patriots (6th)
So 9 out of 32, or a little over 1/4.
September 13th, 2012 at 1:30 pm
Starters who were 1st rounders:
Ryan Tannehill
Mark Sanchez
Andrew Luck
Blaine Gabbert
Jake Locker
Joe Flacco
Brandon Weeden
Ben Roethlisberger
Peyton Manning
Carson Palmer
Philip Rivers
Eli Manning
Michael Vick
RGIII
Matt Ryan
Cam Newton
Josh Freeman
Jay Cutler
Matt Stafford
Aaron Rodgers
Christian Ponder
Alex Smith
Sam Bradford
23/32 NFL starting QBs are 1st round picks. That’s roughly 72%. I think the whole “find a QB in rounds 2-6 and coach him up” thing is WAY overrated.
Tom Brady is the exception, not the rule
September 13th, 2012 at 1:31 pm
Marks Hair Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
100. Id go find those #s.. and make sure theyre from the last 15 yrs..
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It was on ESPN radio.
But lets look at the current crop of top QBs.
Brady – developed, not drafted
Maning – drafted (stable franchise)
Eli – developed
Rogers – developed, not drafted
Rivers – drafted but lets see, Norv is known as a GREAT QB developer hmmm
Cutler – drafted. But couldnt stay with his original team
Rothlisberger – developed
Stafford – drafted (anyone that can succeed in Detroit is a stud)
Romo – developed
Vick – Free Agent pickup, still figuring the QB position out
Lets look at Superbowl QBs the last 10 years…
Eli – developed
Brady – developed, late pick
Rogers – developed
Rothlisberger – developed
Brees – drafted
Peyton – drafted
Sexy Rexy – uggh
Warner – developed, late pick
Hasselbeck – developed, late pick
McNabb – definitely developed as evidence by him and every other QB that leaves Andy Reids system and tanks
Gannon – developed, late pick
Brad Johnson – developed
September 13th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
Marks Hair Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
How many starting qbs were not 1st round picks?
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Wilson with the Seahawks (3rd)
Skelton with the Cardinals (5th)
Brees with the Saints (2nd)
Romo with the Cowboys (UDFA)
Cassel with the Chiefs (7th)
Dalton with the Bengals (2nd)
Schaub with the Texans (3rd)
Fitzpatrick with the Bills (7th)
Brady with the Patriots (6th)
So 9 out of 32, or a little over 1/4.
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And the rest by and large walked into perfect situations.
The list of guys who could succeed anywhere no matter what takes one hand to count.
September 13th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
I think the key to our offense is finding a way to use M.Reece more..hes got the best hands on our team IMO..line HIM up in the slot/at TE!!
September 13th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
AmysInCharge Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
Old man Kell attempted 46 different ways to achieve an erection,..none was completed.
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Sorry, I couldn’t get it up for you, but, I wasn’t attracted.
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We’ve seen your wife.
Something tells me you insist on the light being out.
September 13th, 2012 at 1:34 pm
There are currently 6 active starters who have won Super Bowls:
Drew Brees
Tom Brady
Ben Roethlisberger
Peyton Manning
Eli Manning
Aaron Rodgers
2/3rds of them were taken in the 1st round.
Unless you get VERY lucky or have a VERY good QB coach/offensive co-ordinator, the 1st round is the place to try to get your QB.
September 13th, 2012 at 1:35 pm
Marks Hair Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
Ive met dilfer hes goofy.. and now hes on tv.. tv heads are goofy.. and he said i wouldnt be surprise either way? Thats not a prediction…
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You were implying that he doesnt know what he’s talking about. He may be goofy in your opinion but he knows football.
He was asked to give a prediction on our team and he said we were one of those rare teams that could go in either direction due to our lack of depth. He felt we had the talent to go far, IF we were indeed really going to stop shooting ourselves in the foot. Monday Nights game probably cemented his stance.
September 13th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
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September 13th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
SilverNBlackPA Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 1:34 pm
There are currently 6 active starters who have won Super Bowls:
Drew Brees
Tom Brady
Ben Roethlisberger
Peyton Manning
Eli Manning
Aaron Rodgers
2/3rds of them were taken in the 1st round.
Unless you get VERY lucky or have a VERY good QB coach/offensive co-ordinator, the 1st round is the place to try to get your QB.
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Only two of those guys would have succeeded no matter where he was drafted. Brees and Peyton.
The rest walked into solid orgs. As yourself if the other 4 would have won had they been drafted by Oakland during Al’s later years? Be honest.
September 13th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
Jerry, U are the best! Raider fans are lucky to have you! Missed during the 49ers stint but don’t tell Steve, we love him too though!
September 13th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
I live near Philly, I drink at CHicky and Petes on Roosevelt blvd, the bartender/(7man touch league ref i QB in) knows rich gannon and has for years, they grew up together..He said Gannon loves talkin bout his highschool/college games! When someone brings up the Raiders he dosnt talk about it..ernie(the ref) asked him bout Barret RObbins and the superbowl, Gannon just said “dont wana talk about it”..no wonder he retired a Viking..Davis treated him like garbage
September 13th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
boss01 Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
Raiderinparadise Says: September 13th, 2012 at 12:47 pmboss01 Says:September 13th, 2012 at 12:39 pmSeptember 13th, 2012 at 12:31 pmboss01 Says:September 13th, 2012 at 12:26 pmHarbaugh has never won anything in his life and he never will…..both rothers wont——–That’s pathetic … they both won their divisions last year and both lost in NFC/AFC chapionships games off fluke reasons.I would take either coach in a heartbeat.————–Pathetic? And what happened in those games? Their teams choked plus both inherited great defenses so they dont even deserve credit for those division titles and go root for them….thats where all the gay fans go root——-Right you are brilliant … I guess you left out the fact that Harabaugh made Alex Smith look like a good QB (pro bowl)… and by the way SF had that good defense for years and never won anything.gay fans? Your shallow minded. what an idiot.Your an embarrassment to raider fans, you prob wear a faded RUSSELL jersey on your moms couch and yell at your TV for John Madden to be coach again.Harabaugh … either one is a proven winning coach.We haven’t had a winning season in 10 years? you ok with that? Or do you just focus on calling 49er fans gay? because SF is 100% gay people right? OAK has been a joke, complete joke … set records for penalties, 11 loss seasons, new coach every year, draft busts, and you really think about calling out teams with success?Whatta hater.
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Success? Dont be dilusional…..I know you are on the loser harbaughs jocks because you are gay. So go root for your loser niners and while youre at it dont post in a raider blog for this is a true raider fan blog….we do not accept gay losers with handles that include the word paradise….plenty of niner blogs to discuss the niners choking in the end
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You are a true idiot. I will just ignore your pathetic comments … your mom should have swallowed you, then you wouldn’t live such a life of confusion of why you are gay and have to fight it daily.
Im a true fan was at the game MNF while you were at home jerking off.
You say the 49ers are chokers … I hate them … but we haven’t made the playoffs in 10 years and haven’t had a winning season. gain some perspective, even tho your stupid and won’t make any sense of real life … just be the loser you are. You aren’t a true raider fan if your calling for losing over getting better.
September 13th, 2012 at 1:39 pm
How many starting qbs were not 1st round picks?
-Brady
-Brees
-Matt Schaub
-Ryan Fitz
-Matt Cassell
-Tony Romo
-Russell Wilson
-Kevin Kolb/John Skelton
September 13th, 2012 at 1:39 pm
Now its time to take a look at some of the most exciting qb’s in the pipeline coming up through the college ranks my qb watch list. my ghguys are tearing it up so far this year. there are a couple of new guys that have caught my eye and will be worth watching over the next few years as well.
1. sr EJ manual: 27 / 35349 yds 77.1cmp% 9.97 ypa 61 lng 4td 1 int 92.9 qb rating
rushing 5 att 38 yds 7.6 ypc
2.) soph terrence owens: 36/63 434yds 57.1cmp% 6.89ypa 59lng 5 td 0 int 141.2 qb rating
rushing: 20 att 93 yds 4.7 ypc 13lng
3.) jr Logan thomas: 36/61 442 yds 59.0cmp% 7.25 ypa 42lng 4td 0int 141.5 qb rating
4.)sr geno smith: 32/36 323 yds 88.9cmp% 8.97ypa 52lng 4td 0int 200.9 qb rating
rushing: 8 att 65 yda 8.1 ypc 28 lng 1td
(geno smith is the best pure passer in the draft and unlike what some morons have tried to sell us on he is a very athletic runner as well)
5.)soph teddy bridgewater: 49/60 576yds 81.7cmp% 9.60ypa 55lng 2td 0int 173.3 qb rating
6.) soph braxton miller: 32/48 362yds 66.7cmp% 7.54ypa 44lng 3td 1int 146.5 qb rating
rushing: 44 att 302 yds 6.9ypc 65lng 4td
7.) fr brett hundly: 42/61 507yds 68.9cmp% 8.31ypa 49lng 6td 1 int 167.8 qb rating
rushing: 19 att 121 yds 6.4 ypc 72 lng 1td
all of these guys are dual threat qbs that can throw the ball well. If you notice the completion percentages and ratings on some of these guys it is like video game numbers.
Even though a couple of the guys on this list dont have huge rushing stats, it is only because they are so good at passing that they rarely run other than to escape pressure and throw the ball. Much like the geno smith thing, they feel they need to prove that they can throw so they hesitate to run. Dont let that fool you these guys can run too. Hint watch them play
September 13th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
Your guys logic is flawed. Just because most starting QB’s are 1st rounders, doesnt mean being a 1st rounder means your likelyhood of succeeding is increased. The logic doesnt go both ways.
You have to take into account that QB’s drafted in the 1st round are given a much bigger leash than even the coaches that drafted them because of their perceived value, Alex Smith is a case in point.
Once he got stable coaching around him, he was able to flourish. Without good coaching he has looked like a bust.
If we cant win and make the playoffs with Palmer we certainly arent going to be able to develop some new rookie to save things, no matter where he is drafted.
September 13th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
KK wrote:
Palmer attempted 46 passes, 2 were over 20yds. None were completed.
Whether those 2 were dropped or not. 46 attempts only 2 over 20 yds?
Of course there’s no room to run, or run after the Dink.
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Knapp to conservative and the dink dunk completely wastes Raiders current weapons! Grr!
Have a gr8 day!
September 13th, 2012 at 1:41 pm
I also partied with R. Streater at Temple parties, he was a real cool dude..
September 13th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
I hope D.A and BIg MCK are paying close attention to what happens in carolina and washington this year.
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Me too, as both teams will probably finish dead last in their division.
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Umm i dont know if you know this but both offenses are state of the art, and have dynamic qbs the likes of which have never been seen in pro football. Both play for flawed teams, but are truly guys that you can build championship teams around.
Both employ qbs THAT YOU SAID WOULD FLOP, BRIGHT BOY.
September 13th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
Mistic,
We don’t agree on much, but I’m with you on Geno Smith. Love that kid.
Don’t sleep on Aaron Murray out of Georgia either.
September 13th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
-DA is supposed to be the guy that makes us disciplined
-looks like we might be able to finally stop the run, too bad only a handful of teams still run the ball
September 13th, 2012 at 1:43 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
Palmer attempted 46 passes, 2 were over 20yds. None were completed.
Whether those 2 were dropped or not. 46 attempts only 2 over 20 yds?
Of course there’s no room to run, or run after the Dink.
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WOW, so true Kell. Just think we have ben one of the most explosive teams going over 20 yards the last couple years. Lets hope we start taking more shots downfield soon, regardless if we complete them have to keep the D honest, but this has ben how Knapp has called games for so long, not sure he has it in him to change. All we can do now is hope.
September 13th, 2012 at 1:43 pm
Every person that has ever done heroin, also tried pot.
Not every person that tries pot is going to automatically do heroin. In fact, it doesnt increase their odds in the slightest.
Making sense?
September 13th, 2012 at 1:44 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
I hope D.A and BIg MCK are paying close attention to what happens in carolina and washington this year.
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Me too, as both teams will probably finish dead last in their division.
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Umm i dont know if you know this but both offenses are state of the art, and have dynamic qbs the likes of which have never been seen in pro football. Both play for flawed teams, but are truly guys that you can build championship teams around.
Both employ qbs THAT YOU SAID WOULD FLOP, BRIGHT BOY.
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It’s a racial thing with him.
September 13th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
RealtruRauder,
Yeah, it will be interesting to see if Knapp changes with D. Moore in the lineup. I doubt it, but we’ll see.
September 13th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
@Mistic1
Cam is good, but why put the whole game on his sholders? Carolina ran the ball like 6-7 times? They have good backs…
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the offensive line was the worst in football last weekend, them and seattle had jail breaks on nearly every snap. They were manhandled in the run game and newton was runnig for his life as mccoy was penetrating the heart of the oline routinely.
i also felt they were a bit impatient cam and the coaching staff trying to force the deep pass against a bend dont break defense style designed to take away the explosive plays down field. Cam will need to be more patient. he also was unable to step into his throws much of the game with mccoy in hs face this threw his mechanics off for about a 6 minute stretch in the game and it proved to be thier undoing
September 13th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
I hope D.A and BIg MCK are paying close attention to what happens in carolina and washington this year.
**********************************
Me too, as both teams will probably finish dead last in their division.
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Umm i dont know if you know this but both offenses are state of the art, and have dynamic qbs the likes of which have never been seen in pro football. Both play for flawed teams, but are truly guys that you can build championship teams around.
Both employ qbs THAT YOU SAID WOULD FLOP, BRIGHT BOY.
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Hahaha. State of the art? Not by a long shot.
They run an exotic college offense. Which is the equivalent of a really weak NFL scheme. Its so they can get used to the speed of the game.
Its a smart move to bring them along. But eventually they will need to put their big boy pants on. Brady runs a exotic offense, RG3, not even close to the same football IQ.
September 13th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 30th, 2011 at 11:01 pm
I told you guys. I’m now as much a Niner fan as I am a Raider fan.
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Sullivan44 Says:
November 6th, 2011 at 4:34 pm
I am not a Raider fan anymore, and not sure I ever was one. I more enjoyed the idea the team might look good some day, but I can’t be associated with these losers. My Niner hat looks better and better. See you losers later.
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AmysInCharge Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
The Raiders without doubt will be 0-4 at the bye… When you look at it the way I do, going 1-15 isnt so bad.
I see nothing wrong with supporting the Niners, I am a huge Harbaugh fan and I hope they win it all this year, and I see no reason why they wont.
They are easily the best team in the NFL…so join me, support Harbaugh, its real football over there, not what the Raiders are doing, which is laying down.
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It is beyond clear that AmysInCharge is just Sullivan44/MaddenRaider in another one of his cross posting, multiple personality disorder, schizophrenic, demented outbursts again.
Please do not feed the animals.
September 13th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
@Mistic1
Cam is good, but why put the whole game on his sholders? Carolina ran the ball like 6-7 times? They have good backs…
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the offensive line was the worst in football last weekend, them and seattle had jail breaks on nearly every snap. They were manhandled in the run game and newton was runnig for his life as mccoy was penetrating the heart of the oline routinely.
i also felt they were a bit impatient cam and the coaching staff trying to force the deep pass against a bend dont break defense style designed to take away the explosive plays down field. Cam will need to be more patient. he also was unable to step into his throws much of the game with mccoy in hs face this threw his mechanics off for about a 6 minute stretch in the game and it proved to be thier undoing
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Same thing that happened to Palmer..Parsons was getting beat on nearly every play!!
September 13th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
@Mistic1
That’s crazy, last year they were gushing how good Carolina’s O-Line was, guess things can change pretty quick…Carolina has a lot of High picks on their o-line.
September 13th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
Please do not feed the animals.
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Go away Amy, bring out Klas! Everyone loves Klas, well compared to Amy!
September 13th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
Maybe Carolina should unleash the beast Campbell, lol
September 13th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
@Mistic1
That’s crazy, last year they were gushing how good Carolina’s O-Line was, guess things can change pretty quick…Carolina has a lot of High picks on their o-line.
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Cams learning.
Teams are game planning for him.
His playbook doubled in size and difficulty.
It just a normal sophmore slump. The kid should be fine but lets not expect miracles this season.
September 13th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
Raider Riff Says:
Every person that has ever done heroin, also tried pot.
Not every person that tries pot is going to automatically do heroin. In fact, it doesnt increase their odds in the slightest.
//////////////////////////Going old school.
September 13th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
Almost every drug user was breast fed. It;s called causality, people.
September 13th, 2012 at 1:58 pm
Fkin 49er troll on a Raider blog acting like he is/was a Raider fan. If he’s for real and he thinks in his head he ever was a Raider fan, well than that biatch needs help because he has never ever really ben a Tru Raider fan, just a fkin bandwagon phony
September 13th, 2012 at 1:58 pm
Raider Riff Says:
Every person that has ever done heroin, also tried pot.
Not every person that tries pot is going to automatically do heroin. In fact, it doesnt increase their odds in the slightest.
==========================
Because you, and your friends do both, doesn’t mean every person who’s tried H tries weed.
Stupid statement.
September 13th, 2012 at 1:58 pm
Oh, he11, everybody here knows amy is one of the sock puppet army.
September 13th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
Raider Riff Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
I hope D.A and BIg MCK are paying close attention to what happens in carolina and washington this year.
**********************************
Me too, as both teams will probably finish dead last in their division.
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Umm i dont know if you know this but both offenses are state of the art, and have dynamic qbs the likes of which have never been seen in pro football. Both play for flawed teams, but are truly guys that you can build championship teams around.
Both employ qbs THAT YOU SAID WOULD FLOP, BRIGHT BOY.
—————
Hahaha. State of the art? Not by a long shot.
They run an exotic college offense. Which is the equivalent of a really weak NFL scheme. Its so they can get used to the speed of the game.
Its a smart move to bring them along. But eventually they will need to put their big boy pants on. Brady runs a exotic offense, RG3, not even close to the same football IQ.
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did you watch them play on sunday becauase it doesnt match what you are saying at all.
RGIII was running shanahans wco, the same shotgun version that elway and plummer used. The big difference is the college/ baylor scheme that shanahan has blended with it. hevy on zone runs and quick short passing to set up deep strikes I formation, shotgun roll out, zone reads, bootlegs, pistol formation, and attacking every area on the field through the air. ther are motions and play fakes on every snap. Im sorry but this is an offense that has never been seen in the pros.
newtons offense is also a blend of the college spread option only it is blended with a vertical passing game and power running. deep 5-7 step drops, seam heavy attack based on play action. lots of motion, zone reads, qb draws, pistol formations, shotguns and misdirection.
NO ONE HAS EVER DONE THIS IN THE NFL BEFORE THESE TWO.
i know it bothers some people but they are breaking new ground, and we can to with pryor
September 13th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
Purvisman Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
Raider Riff Says:
Every person that has ever done heroin, also tried pot.
Not every person that tries pot is going to automatically do heroin. In fact, it doesnt increase their odds in the slightest.
//////////////////////////Going old school.
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Ya gotta sometimes around here. It can be like 3rd grade and teaching arithmatic all over again.
Guys think that because most QB’s are taken in the first round that that is where we need to look to fix this org.
They never consider the variables. Such as the fact that a QB is the kind of pick that is sexy and buys GMs time with owners. Sells tickets. Gets talk radio going. It is more often than not, not the answer to the problem.
GM’s rarely get the chance to think 5 years down the road. They are thinking about keeping their job by this time next year.
Just way too many variables in place to assume that our odds of developing a 1st rounder to end up like Aaron Rogers are any good if we cant make waves with Palmer playing the way he did Monday Nite.
September 13th, 2012 at 2:00 pm
Patch,
you know someone that tried heroin but never smoked pot? You?
September 13th, 2012 at 2:01 pm
Patch Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 1:58 pm
Raider Riff Says:
Every person that has ever done heroin, also tried pot.
Not every person that tries pot is going to automatically do heroin. In fact, it doesnt increase their odds in the slightest.
==========================
Because you, and your friends do both, doesn’t mean every person who’s tried H tries weed.
Stupid statement.
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It went way over your head.
September 13th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
145.Raider Riff Says:
Every person that has ever done heroin,
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You got some?
September 13th, 2012 at 2:03 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
80 degrees 80% humidty is hot!
+++++++++
No Kell, its not…
It is if you are trying to sleep at night.
Ill give you 90 degrees with 80-90% Humidity, but 80? No way. My Aunt wouldn’t even let us get into the pool when we were kids if it wasn’t 81 degrees out….
September 13th, 2012 at 2:03 pm
Raider Riff Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
@Mistic1
That’s crazy, last year they were gushing how good Carolina’s O-Line was, guess things can change pretty quick…Carolina has a lot of High picks on their o-line.
————
Cams learning.
Teams are game planning for him.
His playbook doubled in size and difficulty.
It just a normal sophmore slump. The kid should be fine but lets not expect miracles this season.
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i watched the game and cam was on fire through the first half of the game. they could not run the ball and lost the time of possession battle while falling behind. the panthers abandoned the run and went almost exclusively with deep drop deep passing and were very impatient. the o line was awful.
I dont think this was a sophmore slump, just a painful lesson for the young qb and panther team. it also exposed the o line as an area that needs major attention. cam really struggled for about 4 minutes on back to back possessions forcing the ball. he is fine
September 13th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says: I’m sorry but this is an offense that has never been seen in the pros.//////////////I’m having a real hard time with this concept. All 32 teams over the history of the NFL paying big bucks to hacks that don’t even understand the college game? C’mon man!
September 13th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
Raider Riff Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
I hope D.A and BIg MCK are paying close attention to what happens in carolina and washington this year.
**********************************
Me too, as both teams will probably finish dead last in their division.
===================
Umm i dont know if you know this but both offenses are state of the art, and have dynamic qbs the likes of which have never been seen in pro football. Both play for flawed teams, but are truly guys that you can build championship teams around.
Both employ qbs THAT YOU SAID WOULD FLOP, BRIGHT BOY.
—————
Hahaha. State of the art? Not by a long shot.
They run an exotic college offense. Which is the equivalent of a really weak NFL scheme. Its so they can get used to the speed of the game.
Its a smart move to bring them along. But eventually they will need to put their big boy pants on. Brady runs a exotic offense, RG3, not even close to the same football IQ.
====================
did you watch them play on sunday becauase it doesnt match what you are saying at all.
RGIII was running shanahans wco, the same shotgun version that elway and plummer used. The big difference is the college/ baylor scheme that shanahan has blended with it. hevy on zone runs and quick short passing to set up deep strikes I formation, shotgun roll out, zone reads, bootlegs, pistol formation, and attacking every area on the field through the air. ther are motions and play fakes on every snap. Im sorry but this is an offense that has never been seen in the pros.
newtons offense is also a blend of the college spread option only it is blended with a vertical passing game and power running. deep 5-7 step drops, seam heavy attack based on play action. lots of motion, zone reads, qb draws, pistol formations, shotguns and misdirection.
NO ONE HAS EVER DONE THIS IN THE NFL BEFORE THESE TWO.
i know it bothers some people but they are breaking new ground, and we can to with pryor
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The only new ground that is being broken is that a coach was finally given the leeway to dumb down the playbook in order to give his QB’s the best chance to succeed.
It’s a good way to go, dont get me wrong. But it is far from exotic or state of the art. And it is far from proven to be playoff caliber or even SuperBowl caliber.
If those teams want to get to the dance, eventually their systems are going to evolve into something more “grown up”.
I think Cam will make it there. Im unsure about RG3. He has all the intangibles. But I dont think his body will hold up. Ive watched two of his games now and he takes a ton of punishment. It wont last. Im a believer in what Vick can do but he is the same problem, takes too much abuse to be consistently in the lineup for his team.
September 13th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
I find something funny. People kept saying that we weren’t able to run the ball because they were “stacking the box”.
Then say we couldn’t throw deep because they had “2 safeties deep”.
That’s why we kept “dinking and dunking” and why we ran so ineffectively.
But, unless I’m totally a mathmatical moron, that is physically impossible to stack the box while keeping 2 safeties deep.
Our offense just isn’t clicking, and we try to blame it on “that they were taking away the deep pass with 2 deep safeties” when asked about all the dink and dunk and lack of any movement through the air.
Then say “they stacked the box” when explaining why the running game was soooooooooo ineffectual.
But, just look and plain and simple it’s impossible to “stack the box” if they really kept 2 deep.
September 13th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
Raider Riff Says: It went way over your head.///////He’s probably doing one or the other.
September 13th, 2012 at 2:08 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 2:03 pm
Raider Riff Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
@Mistic1
That’s crazy, last year they were gushing how good Carolina’s O-Line was, guess things can change pretty quick…Carolina has a lot of High picks on their o-line.
————
Cams learning.
Teams are game planning for him.
His playbook doubled in size and difficulty.
It just a normal sophmore slump. The kid should be fine but lets not expect miracles this season.
=============
i watched the game and cam was on fire through the first half of the game. they could not run the ball and lost the time of possession battle while falling behind. the panthers abandoned the run and went almost exclusively with deep drop deep passing and were very impatient. the o line was awful.
I dont think this was a sophmore slump, just a painful lesson for the young qb and panther team. it also exposed the o line as an area that needs major attention. cam really struggled for about 4 minutes on back to back possessions forcing the ball. he is fine
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Cam made the same mental errors in this game he was known for last year.
If he’s playing at the same level as last year, but with a more expanded playbook, that is major progress.
I never said he “wasnt fine”.
Was the o-line awful or was Cam not calling the right plays at the line? Unless you are in the film room, you have no idea who was really at fault.
September 13th, 2012 at 2:08 pm
129.SilverNBlackPA Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 1:34 pm
There are currently 6 active starters who have won Super Bowls:
Drew Brees
Tom Brady
Ben Roethlisberger
Peyton Manning
Eli Manning
Aaron Rodgers
2/3rds of them were taken in the 1st round.
Unless you get VERY lucky or have a VERY good QB coach/offensive co-ordinator, the 1st round is the place to try to get your QB.
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That’s where Palmer came from originally.
Peyton is 36 and no one talks about him being on his last legs…At 32 IF Palmer can keep up decent play there’s no reason why he couldn’t play till 38.
September 13th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
lol realtrue
the beast
September 13th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
Me, I’m on a new drug. It’s called PBR. Liking it so far.
September 13th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
I’m on a new drug called sobriety.
Not all it is cracked up to be.
September 13th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
DJ Johnny Says: Peyton is 36 and no one talks about him being on his last legs…At 32 IF Palmer can keep up decent play there’s no reason why he couldn’t play till 38.///////That’s what I said!
but we’re usually on the same page DJ.
September 13th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
I had my first drink of booze in about 3 months on Monday. Getting buzzed by yourself just doesn’t really do it anymore for me.
I will probably watch my first Raider game, bone azz dry sober on Sunday, for the first time in 15 years.
September 13th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
Raiderzmaverick Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
I find something funny. People kept saying that we weren’t able to run the ball because they were “stacking the box”.
Then say we couldn’t throw deep because they had “2 safeties deep”.
That’s why we kept “dinking and dunking” and why we ran so ineffectively.
But, unless I’m totally a mathmatical moron, that is physically impossible to stack the box while keeping 2 safeties deep.
Our offense just isn’t clicking, and we try to blame it on “that they were taking away the deep pass with 2 deep safeties” when asked about all the dink and dunk and lack of any movement through the air.
Then say “they stacked the box” when explaining why the running game was soooooooooo ineffectual.
But, just look and plain and simple it’s impossible to “stack the box” if they really kept 2 deep.
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2 safeties were deep.
CB’s were playing tight and turning and running with any deep routes.
LBs were all up in the box.
The middle was left open and it was exploited every time except for when the O-Line waved the defenders by or when Streater was fumbling.
What is so hard to understand?
CP3 missed Meyers open on two plays but that was it. And when the WR’s were able to get behind the CB’s Palmer let it rip and the WR’s couldnt come down with the ball.
If CP3 forces it he throws picks and gets boo’d off the stage. If he takes what the D is giving him then Knapp is a tool for not opening up the offense.
We played from behind way too much to expect us to run the ball 30 times. Its not rocket science.
September 13th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
#170,
Yeah Maverick. Guess what? Teams are going to try and beat u anyway they can. If they take away the Palmer deep ball then u have to beat them underneath and short…Rodgers does it all the time. He toys with defenses.
He’ll dink and dunk you right into the endzone…and if u try and take that away… he’ll burn you deep with Jennings, Driver and Jordy Nelson.
DHB was disappointment Mon nite. He ran the wrong route on that Palmer deep ball and apparently could not get seperation.
What sucks is SD decided what THEY wanted to do…and did it. We had no answer for it.
September 13th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
Or maybe we can get a hurricane warning for the game and push back kickoff 3 hours, than I might pick up the sauce, lol.
September 13th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
The reason 1st rd qbs do better on average is because they showed the gms something… thats why they get developed.. a later pick like brady or wilson has to prove it during practice… so yes you will find more sucsessfull qbs in rd 1.. the gms are all fighting for qbs and its rare when studs slip bye..
September 13th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
San Diego surprised the Raiders by playing what wide receiver Rod Streater called a “bail” technique. Defensive backs came up as if they would play press coverage, then suddenly dropped off 15 or 20 yards, cutting off all deep routes.
Shouldn’t we have run 10 yd routes then for automatic first downs? Tells you how bad the team will be this year when they can’t adjust to a team dropping off 15-20yds at the snap. Long year for the Raiders… Just saying..
September 13th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
175.purvisman Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
Me, I’m on a new drug. It’s called PBR. Liking it so far.
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What PBR was voted best beer in America…cough, cough in 1893.
September 13th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
I’m on a new drug called sobriety.
Not all it is cracked up to be.
///////////////////It can be. Tried it before and will again. Sometimes you have to. Sometimes you don’t. I’m lucky right now to be in the second group.
September 13th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
Vic Tafur @VicTafur
Still no decision on @Raiders starting center — Knapp says Wisniewski better run blocker and Parsons better at pass protection
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Really Knapp, really?! You might as well send an e-mail to the dolphins d-coord.
September 13th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
177.purvisman Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
DJ Johnny Says: Peyton is 36 and no one talks about him being on his last legs…At 32 IF Palmer can keep up decent play there’s no reason why he couldn’t play till 38.///////That’s what I said!
but we’re usually on the same page DJ.
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Yeah, I think we’re both psycho Raider fans…although I think I may get a little more weird than you do seeing as you have to talk me off the ledge at times.
September 13th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
Maybe it is vice versa and it is some stealth subterfuge from Knapp
September 13th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
Quitting drinking is not so bad after you get use to it. God willing and the PBR ads dont tempt me I will have 20 years in nov
Besides you can always try marijuana maintence with some hillbilly herion now and then
September 13th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
DutchRaider77 Says: What PBR was voted best beer in America…cough, cough in 1893.//////////////Not a ‘playa’, going for quantity over quality. You wanna talk microbrews, you just met your match.
September 13th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
PFF ranked Wiz’s season ending game at center against San Diego as one of the worst games a center played all year.
I would rather keep Parson in there, and put Wiz back at guard, and get Briesel the heck out of there.
September 13th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
Marks Hair Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
The reason 1st rd qbs do better on average is because they showed the gms something… thats why they get developed.. a later pick like brady or wilson has to prove it during practice… so yes you will find more sucsessfull qbs in rd 1.. the gms are all fighting for qbs and its rare when studs slip bye..
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List all the 1st rd QBs that didnt make it.
It’s longer than the list of guys who did.
September 13th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
with some hillbilly herion now and then
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That stuff makes my face itch, I don’t like it
September 13th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
People shouldn’t set their high hopes for the Raiders to win in Miami. The ‘fins were playing the texs tight in the first quarter until the game got away from them late in the first half.
You’re correct to say that Tanny Hill is probably years away and should be easy pickings, however their defense can be tough, and the Raiders are well known to not to play or travel well to the eastern time zone.
The Raiders are in no-win situation even if they get a win because people will say it was against a piss-poor team, and if they should lose, I’m sure the fire-Krappy list will circle Lake Merritt by next Monday.
September 13th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
Com on J Mac this is all you can muster? We fans need some kool iad or some unbiased truth from our main man i.e; YOU Jer
September 13th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
#170,
Yeah Maverick. Guess what? Teams are going to try and beat u anyway they can. If they take away the Palmer deep ball then u have to beat them underneath and short…Rodgers does it all the time. He toys with defenses.
He’ll dink and dunk you right into the endzone…and if u try and take that away… he’ll burn you deep with Jennings, Driver and Jordy Nelson.
DHB was disappointment Mon nite. He ran the wrong route on that Palmer deep ball and apparently could not get seperation.
What sucks is SD decided what THEY wanted to do…and did it. We had no answer for it.
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Exactly.
SanDiusky was banking on the fact that CP3 wouldnt be disciplined enough to keep from going deep. They knew we wanted to go deep and they thought CP3 would fire away and toss up picks.
September 13th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
Parsons got pwnd
September 13th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
Well in our divison we have two #1 overall QB’s and Rivers was #3 overall I think.
And Cassel is the odd man out……and right in lockstep easily the worst of the bunch as well.
September 13th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
183.gtown1_sj Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
San Diego surprised the Raiders by playing what wide receiver Rod Streater called a “bail” technique. Defensive backs came up as if they would play press coverage, then suddenly dropped off 15 or 20 yards, cutting off all deep routes.
Shouldn’t we have run 10 yd routes then for automatic first downs? Tells you how bad the team will be this year when they can’t adjust to a team dropping off 15-20yds at the snap. Long year for the Raiders… Just saying..
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…and isn’t that something Palmer should notice…at least as a trend?
They should have planned that if they do the bail thing..then cut back and i’ll hit you short.
September 13th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
PFF ranked Wiz’s season ending game at center against San Diego as one of the worst games a center played all year.
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And he was playing with a torn labrum, which HAD to affect both his strength and leverage.
September 13th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
PFF ranked Wiz’s season ending game at center against San Diego as one of the worst games a center played all year.
I would rather keep Parson in there, and put Wiz back at guard, and get Briesel the heck out of there.
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Veldheer and Wiz anchoring the left side seemed to work really good last year. If you feel Parsons is good enough, then I see no reason Wiz shouldnt give up the C position and move to G.
I dont know if Briesel is the problem. You tell me. All I know is that Barns went back to being his old self last game.
September 13th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
List all the non 1st rounders that washed out….
September 13th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
Amazing, Wiz was a focal point of the line last season, now under the ZBS he seems about as good as Satele.
September 13th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
Let me get this straight Plunketthead. You quit drinking 20 years ago but smoke a bit and I don’t know what you do with hillbilly heroin. And you will have twenty years of what, exactly in Nov.? Don’t get me wrong and more power to you.
September 13th, 2012 at 2:24 pm
Thats why you double down with some somas = HH.
It will stop the itch, might stop your heart too though.
Best stay away
September 13th, 2012 at 2:24 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
183.gtown1_sj Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
San Diego surprised the Raiders by playing what wide receiver Rod Streater called a “bail” technique. Defensive backs came up as if they would play press coverage, then suddenly dropped off 15 or 20 yards, cutting off all deep routes.
Shouldn’t we have run 10 yd routes then for automatic first downs? Tells you how bad the team will be this year when they can’t adjust to a team dropping off 15-20yds at the snap. Long year for the Raiders… Just saying..
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…and isn’t that something Palmer should notice…at least as a trend?
They should have planned that if they do the bail thing..then cut back and i’ll hit you short.
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Ummm…. that is exactly what Palmer and Hagen were doing. And DHB on his hitch routes.
The adjustments were made. I dont know what you guys are complaining about.
We got them to creep up twice and when they did, we went deep and the WR’s couldnt make the plays.
September 13th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
with some hillbilly herion now and then
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That stuff makes my face itch, I don’t like it////////////////////////////////What is hillbilly heroin?
September 13th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
Shouldn’t we have run 10 yd routes then for automatic first downs? Tells you how bad the team will be this year when they can’t adjust to a team dropping off 15-20yds at the snap. Long year for the Raiders… Just saying..
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that is what i was thinking erlier. Seems like the come back route should have been open all night long
September 13th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
I hear Palmer and Streator talk about what SD did to take away what we wanted to do and it alomost sounds like they are acting hopeless about it.
“Well they did this and that so we couldn’t do what we really wanted”.
Welcome to the NFL.
You have to adjust on the fly. That’s what Peyton does.
September 13th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
Passing game on MNF, SD set-up a chess match and we missed out on the big peices.
September 13th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
Marks Hair Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
List all the non 1st rounders that washed out….
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Dude, I dont have that much time.
If you dont get it, you dont get it. IDK what else to say. Im willing to bow out now because if I have to look up every 1st round pick that failed just to prove a point (that you might still argue after the fact) then it just isnt worth it.
All but a very few QBs who are good in this league walked into good situations and were developed, no matte where they are drafted. And if we cant win with Palmer, then we wont be able to win with Luck, or RG3, or Cam Newton, or the next big thing. If you dont get that, then I cant help you.
September 13th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
Purvis I dont know anything about sobriety if thats what you mean. However I hit my knees and asked God to help me quit drinking almost 20 years ago.
September 13th, 2012 at 2:28 pm
We played pawns all night on offense.
September 13th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
The buzz on the dolts’ talk radio down here in SoCal is that Nerd Turner outsmarted the Raiders coaching staff, both defensively and offensively. The Raiders helped and did their own damage, though, on just about every facet of the game.
September 13th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
Googled it and now I know. Back went out sunday and I found a bottle of Vicadin and took 6 or7 a day sunday and monday and it really helped with the pain but I got all itchy, too. That’s the hillbillys hillbillys heroin.
September 13th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
And he was playing with a torn labrum, which HAD to affect both his strength and leverage.
Back in high school and Junior college I knew a guy that played with a torn LABIA is that similar? Is that what our WR’s are suffering from?
September 13th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
new post
September 13th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
Well, looks like no happy announcements coming from Raiderland.
Not even any disappointment in the SD game?
No vow to get better?
Still irritated at DA’s over the top praise of a bitter rival and their QB “Philip” as well as all the respect and admiration of “the Charger organization”.
What the hell is THAT?
C’mon man.
September 13th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
Zopi Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
The buzz on the dolts’ talk radio down here in SoCal is that Nerd Turner outsmarted the Raiders coaching staff, both defensively and offensively. The Raiders helped and did their own damage, though, on just about every facet of the game.
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I wouldnt say he outsmarted us. Us losing our long snapper does not mean Norv outsmarted us. Dont listen to the homers in SoCal.
Norv had a solid plan. He worked with what he had. We had a equally solid plan and a ton more talent. We didnt execute, lost the turnover battle, and we lost a major special teams cog. End of story.
September 13th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
Maybe DA is hoping HE will be the next man up to replace Norv.
September 13th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
Slang for the prescription painkiller Oxycontin, which happens to be very popular with rural white males.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hillbilly%20heroin
September 13th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
Plunketthead Says: Purvis I dont know anything about sobriety if thats what you mean. However I hit my knees and asked God to help me quit drinking almost 20 years ago.////////////Meant no disrespect whatsoever, thought you were still availing yourself of painkillers of one sort or the other and was commenting on that. If you and god are working it out, than more power to you and keep on Raidering on.
September 13th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
I thought when Palmer was brought that we would see more deep balls the likes of which we havent seen since the snake days….now after 10 games, I see more check downs than mclown and JC ever threw….heck JC is a gun slinger compared to CP3 right now….he has lost his ballz or his mojo either way he has not lived up to what was given up in return….this is not the same guy from 09…not ready togive up just yet but he better pick it up and start acting like a real QB starting sunday or else people need to start the Pryor chants ala Tebow