WR Ford’s season might be over
By Steve Corkran
Thursday, September 13th, 2012 at 2:24 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Raiders coach Dennis Allen said Thursday afternoon that there’s a “strong possibility” that wide reciever Jacoby Ford will be placed on season-ending injured reserve.
A new rule permits teams to designate one player on injured reserve for return at some point in the season. However, Allen said if Ford goes on injured reserve, it won’t be under the new designation.
Therefore, the Raiders face the prospect of playing the entire 2012 season without Ford, who is one of their most explosive receivers, as well as their kick returner.
Ford suffered a left foot injury at the end of a reception against the Arizona Cardinals on Aug. 17 in an exhibition game. He did not practice or play in a game after the injury. He underwent surgery in North Carolina on Tuesday.
Allen said Ford’s injury is the dreaded Lisfranc injury, which has been known to sideline players for lengthy periods and be difficult to rebound from.
Running back Darren McFadden said as much Wednesday, ever mindful of his bout with a similar injury last season.
For now, the Raiders have five receivers on their 53-man roster — Darrius Heyward-Bey, Denarius Moore, Derek Hagan, Juron Criner and Rod Streater.
Allen didn’t rule out the possibility of signing a free agent or promoting a receiver from the practice squad.
– In other news, middle linebacker Rolando McClain (ankle) and running back Taiwan Jones (ribs) practiced in a limited capacity Thursday. They missed practice the day before.
Criner (ankle), defensive tackle Richard Seymour (knee), center Alex Parsons (shoulder) and Moore (hamstring) also were limited.
– Allen said long-snapper Jon Condo (concussion) is “feeling better” and will accompany the Raiders to Miami. Condo will play, too, if he is cleared by team doctors.
If Condo can’t play, the Raiders are expected to sign Nick Guess from the practice squad to fill in for Condo as the long-snapper.
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September 13th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
Tsk tsk
September 13th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
September 13th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
#3
September 13th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
Shut the door! Klas #4
September 13th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
I guess Ford is done. Wouldn’t be surprised if he is not on the roster next year.
September 13th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
Raider Riff Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
Zopi Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
The buzz on the dolts’ talk radio down here in SoCal is that Nerd Turner outsmarted the Raiders coaching staff, both defensively and offensively. The Raiders helped and did their own damage, though, on just about every facet of the game.
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I wouldnt say he outsmarted us. Us losing our long snapper does not mean Norv outsmarted us. Dont listen to the homers in SoCal.
Norv had a solid plan. He worked with what he had. We had a equally solid plan and a ton more talent. We didnt execute, lost the turnover battle, and we lost a major special teams cog. End of story.
September 13th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
Shut the door! Klas #4
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Klassic!!!!
September 13th, 2012 at 2:33 pm
This is news? A semi posted the recovery time for that injury yesterday. It is official now. Good lookin out Jer!
September 13th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
Well, looks like no happy announcements coming from Raiderland.
Not even any disappointment in the SD game?
No vow to get better?
Still irritated at DA’s over the top praise of a bitter rival and their QB “Philip” as well as all the respect and admiration of “the Charger organization”.
What the hell is THAT?
C’mon man.
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Do you really believe that?
I for one am refreshed to not hear any BS rhetoric coming from the org. Ive heard enough crap about this “new era of excellence” but same old mistakes.
I got a sneaking suspicion that about midway thru the first quarter the DA already knew what he was going to tell the team this week, and I doubt it was pretty. From the 2nd Qtr on you can see a NOTICEABLE change in the DAs demeanor. As if to say that he knew the outcome of the came and he couldnt wait to rip the players a new one come practice.
I also appreciate that he isnt doing it in the media. It makes it that much more effective.
This is all speculation on my part. Just my opinion of what I think (and hope) he is doing, and why Im ok without and BS in the press.
September 13th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
So…who do we have on the PS that can come in and do well for our receiver group? Unless one of them is a Arian Foster type, I’m guessing none!
September 13th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
Plaxico Burress.
Red Zone specialist … big target for CP3.
September 13th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
Plunketthead Says: Purvis I dont know anything about sobriety if thats what you mean. However I hit my knees and asked God to help me quit drinking almost 20 years ago.////////////Meant no disrespect whatsoever, thought you were still availing yourself of painkillers of one sort or the other and was commenting on that. If you and god are working it out, than more power to you and keep on Raidering on.
September 13th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
Save the new IR spot for DMC incase he goes down at some point. Smart move.
September 13th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
Slang for the prescription painkiller Oxycontin, which happens to be very popular with rural white males.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hillbilly%20heroin
September 13th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
Time to sign a washed up receiver
September 13th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
I could care less how DA spins it to the media. I hope he is getting in players and coaches grills and reiterating the fact that what we are doing is not gonna cut it!!!
September 13th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
Hwnrdr Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
So…who do we have on the PS that can come in and do well for our receiver group? Unless one of them is a Arian Foster type, I’m guessing none!
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I liked the way Sessions gets open and the way he catches the ball.
But if we are serious about the playoffs, we go get TO or Plax. (Knapp probably wants no part in TO)
September 13th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
Raider Riff Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
Save the new IR spot for DMC incase he goes down at some point. Smart move.
I agree Riff!
September 13th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
Hue just recommended a fellow by the name TJ Whosyoursomething!!!!!
September 13th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
You’re right about TO in regards to Knapp! That sideline bashing was classic. But if TO knew than…
September 13th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
raiderinparadise Says:
Plaxico Burress.
Red Zone specialist … big target for CP3.
///////////////////////Not sure I like you but I’ve been lobbying for Plaxico since before he got out of jail. Or prison. If there’s a difference
September 13th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
The special teams look soooooo bad. Return games primarily.
September 13th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
You’re a great young Man Jacoby Ford…I pray you will recover soon. We need to sign Plax or Chad or somebody. We need more depth in our WRs position. No doubt about it. Thanks for thee update Cork!
September 13th, 2012 at 2:40 pm
Dan78 Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
Time to sign a washed up receiver
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I don’t care if he smells like the shvt house on a tuna boat as long as he can catch in the red zone.
Washing is optional
September 13th, 2012 at 2:40 pm
Dan78 Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
Hue just recommended a fellow by the name TJ Whosyoursomething!!!!!
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Whose got the Housh? Baby, baby! Whose got the only sweetest thing in the world. Lets get real, lets get heavy, till the water breaks the levy. Whose got the Housh, whose go the Housh?
September 13th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
here is to hoping that the return of Dmoore will result in more room to work for our other speed challenged wrs. seems to me Dmoor is our only wr capable of running a legit deep route. DHB routes are so stiff and robotic while Dmoore is very fluid in his movements thus Dmoore being our only true deep threat. With DMC and Dmoore garnering most of the attention from opposing def maybe this will open up some space for streat and Hagan to actually be able to get YAC.
September 13th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
Levi Damien @LeviDamien
RT @VicTafur: Raiders first: Merle Haggard playing in locker room courtesy of Dave Tollefson — Some players weren’t liking rap being played
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PpAQiImb18
LOL
September 13th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
Raider Riff Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
SilverNBlackPA Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 1:34 pm
There are currently 6 active starters who have won Super Bowls:
Drew Brees
Tom Brady
Ben Roethlisberger
Peyton Manning
Eli Manning
Aaron Rodgers
2/3rds of them were taken in the 1st round.
Unless you get VERY lucky or have a VERY good QB coach/offensive co-ordinator, the 1st round is the place to try to get your QB.
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Only two of those guys would have succeeded no matter where he was drafted. Brees and Peyton.
The rest walked into solid orgs. As yourself if the other 4 would have won had they been drafted by Oakland during Al’s later years? Be honest.
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None of them would have succeeded here. John Ewlay and Eli had the right idea and controlled their own destiny.
September 13th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
Riff for like the 3rd time…NEVER said qbs dont need to be developed…
Not sure where you got that… my point was qb and passrushers, mostly de are the most important positions to find an allpro… and the best way to get those guys is to take one before the other teams do.. in the draft..
September 13th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
Dear AL DAVIS,
Are the “Good Times Really Over”?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFHJ41ktt3Q
September 13th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
purvisman Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
raiderinparadise Says:
Plaxico Burress.
Red Zone specialist … big target for CP3.
///////////////////////Not sure I like you but I’ve been lobbying for Plaxico since before he got out of jail. Or prison. If there’s a difference
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Not sure you like me? Thats blog life.
Well PLAX would instantly be the biggest WR or TE on our roster. He is long armed and wins jump balls with ease in the endzone. I think he would be a good fit, obiviously not an everydown WR on our squad BUT a great contributor in the red zone, comes cheap, season already in play so no $ guaranteed, and he already ate his humble pie … bring em on.
September 13th, 2012 at 2:45 pm
Would one of you guys get the Plax message to Reg and DA please? Like yesterday.
September 13th, 2012 at 2:45 pm
Then I really think if DA and REG dont want to add a WR, then they HAVE to find a #1 DB … a diamond in the rough, somehow some way.
Pat Lee and Shawntae Spencer? wow ….. neither would start on any other roster in the league.
September 13th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
Purvis thanks and I still take PK
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I always thought you had to mix muscle relaxers with painkillers to get hillbilly herion.
You learn something everyday
September 13th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
Hwnrdr Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
You’re right about TO in regards to Knapp! That sideline bashing was classic. But if TO knew than…
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TO was a prick back then. And Knapp has the kind of look and personality that just makes him easy to hate and want to punch. Read this blog and you’ll see. I mean, I get it to a degree, he just looks like he’s easy to pick on.
Some players dont mesh with certain coaches. Jerry Rice felt Norv Turner was a complete moron and wanted no part in him. So did Randy Moss. Sapp also thought he was a idiot. But Norv has never lost the SanDiusky locker room (but he hasnt had players of that winning caliber either).
It’s tough to say who is really at fault in those circumstances. Sometimes its just the pressure of the job getting the best of people.
September 13th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
Nice pic of 55 holdin his ball sack. Nothing shouts classy like grabbin the sack. Jesus grow up!
September 13th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
Wonder how much the play book was limited this past weekend due to the WR situation and needing to rely on Hagan. How much could he have realistically picked up in less than a week?
September 13th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
Sad to see ford done for the year as he was one of our most explosive weapons along with dmoore and dmc. I think ford was gonna be in for a big season as he is one of the few players who fit the wco.
September 13th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
Again, if the Raiders make first downs and move the chains, there wouldn’t be a need for punting. The fact is that, as just everyone here agrees, the Raiders coaches prepared a terrible offensive plan and scheme that was stopped by the dolts defensive adjustments in the second half, and the Raiders coaches didn’t adjust their scheme forcing the punts and the collapse of the game/
September 13th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
Marks Hair Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
Riff for like the 3rd time…NEVER said qbs dont need to be developed…
Not sure where you got that… my point was qb and passrushers, mostly de are the most important positions to find an allpro… and the best way to get those guys is to take one before the other teams do.. in the draft..
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I got that impression because you ignored my questions about developing TP. He’s got as good a chance as any to be a good QB if developed. He certainly has the work ethic and that is the single most important quality.
I agree, a DE is the way to go in the first round. It’s usually a safer bet than most. And maybe like you, I feel the DE is the most important position on the field.
September 13th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
Ford is a loss … but the team can’t cry over it. If d Moore is healthy with DHB and Streater …. with Haagan/Criner learning over the season we can make it.
Reece can beat LB’s and DMC …. Meyers actually looks more serviceable than I thought.
Run game sets up the pass … expecially for Palmers skill set.
September 13th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
Best line from the song…while applies to this title’s BLOG:
“Make a FORD and a Chevy that will still last ten years like it should”
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Our FORD (Jacoby) lasted about only 2 seasons….and only 24 games….
Are the Good Times Really Over?
September 13th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
Reece can beat LB’s and DMC …. Meyers actually looks more serviceable than I thought.
Run game sets up the pass … expecially for Palmers skill set.
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You Can Dooooooooo It
September 13th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
Rather have T.O. then plax
September 13th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
The Big Banana Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
Wonder how much the play book was limited this past weekend due to the WR situation and needing to rely on Hagan. How much could he have realistically picked up in less than a week?
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How much was it limited? Not nearly as much as we were limited by the existing WR’s inability to make the big play when needed.
Their guys made the big plays when it counted. Ours didnt.
Stop blaming the coaches on this one.
September 13th, 2012 at 2:53 pm
r8dercain Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
Rather have T.O. then plax
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Sign both of them!
September 13th, 2012 at 2:53 pm
Ford is a big loss believe it or not, we lost our explosive slot guy and or best KR by far. Next man up, no one on the street will help us much imo, Criner is a younger version of what Plax is now. I don’t think Criner played but a couple plays Monday because of his ankle, he should see some more play in the redzone if healthy
September 13th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
Marks Hair Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
Riff for like the 3rd time…NEVER said qbs dont need to be developed…
Not sure where you got that… my point was qb and passrushers, mostly de are the most important positions to find an allpro… and the best way to get those guys is to take one before the other teams do.. in the draft..
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I got that impression because you ignored my questions about developing TP. He’s got as good a chance as any to be a good QB if developed. He certainly has the work ethic and that is the single most important quality.
I agree, a DE is the way to go in the first round. It’s usually a safer bet than most. And maybe like you, I feel the DE is the most important position on the field.
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Also, for the umpteenth time, if we cant do well with Palmer, then what makes you think we can develop a young QB?
Palmer is the perfect person to have while we develop TP. It’s a very good situation at QB for us. Drafting a QB is not a priority.
September 13th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
Country Girl Shake it for me now shake it for me now shake it for me. That is what needs to happen
Lets Go Fella’s! We got this! RAIDERS
September 13th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
World’s Ugliest Woman? Klas would do her.
http://shine.yahoo.com/beauty/lessons-worlds-ugliest-woman-stop-staring-start-learning-184400606.html
September 13th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
Maybe we should trade a pick for Mike Wallace.
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I dont think RE-Mac likes to trade his picks
September 13th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
Realtruraider Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 2:53 pm
Ford is a big loss believe it or not, we lost our explosive slot guy and or best KR by far. Next man up, no one on the street will help us much imo, Criner is a younger version of what Plax is now. I don’t think Criner played but a couple plays Monday because of his ankle, he should see some more play in the redzone if healthy
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I agree. Losing Ford hurts.
And I also agree that Criner might be the answer in the red zone. Lord knows he can make the difficult catch.
I think we need our TE play to be better in the red zone above anything else.
September 13th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
zopi Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
Again, if the Raiders make first downs and move the chains, there wouldn’t be a need for punting. The fact is that, as just everyone here agrees, the Raiders coaches prepared a terrible offensive plan and scheme that was stopped by the dolts defensive adjustments in the second half, and the Raiders coaches didn’t adjust their scheme forcing the punts and the collapse of the game/
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John Pagano did a very good job against us. 6 points in the lst half is not going to cut it. And Norphus basically made a big play every time he had to. And special teams were a disaster. Sounds like we got outcoached to me…..
September 13th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
Missed your tp question.. yeah he’s the perfect type to develope.. first rd talent . 3rd rd work ethic.. Carson just played his best game as a raider imo.. so obiously i want passrushers right now.. but i do think qb is most important followed by de..
September 13th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
Streeter minus a fumble did his job.
DHB will bounce back.
Moore is has uneleievable jump ball ability, and reverse runs, makes people miss and can flat-out blow past coverage at least 1 time a game for a 50+ yarder, that and he opens it up underneath foe the rest.
You could argure that Moore is the most important peice to our WR corps moving forward now. DHB is best underneath and over the middle … Streater is a possession WR … Hagan same … Criner seems balanced but unexperienced …. Moore is key.
September 13th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
Taiwan looks bad returning but … the blocking was horrific.
September 13th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
What happened to that Tampoon Bay receiver? Did he sign with anyone?
September 13th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
I’m on a new drug called sobriety.
Not all it is cracked up to be.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Tell me about it. Never again.
I love weed!
September 13th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
here is to hoping that the return of Dmoore will result in more room to work for our other speed challenged wrs. seems to me Dmoor is our only wr capable of running a legit deep route. DHB routes are so stiff and robotic while Dmoore is very fluid in his movements thus Dmoore being our only true deep threat. With DMC and Dmoore garnering most of the attention from opposing def maybe this will open up some space for streat and Hagan to actually be able to get YAC.
September 13th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
Levi Damien @LeviDamien
RT @VicTafur: Raiders first: Merle Haggard playing in locker room courtesy of Dave Tollefson — Some players weren’t liking rap being played
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Safe to say Tollefson is making a statement…..that or he just doesn’t like ICE CUBE performing a concert before a BIG GAME on MONDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL….
But hey, what do I know?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzeZhCt5PVA
The Raiders wanna go CORPORATE….
You we have our result!
September 13th, 2012 at 3:01 pm
raiderinparadise Says: Not sure you like me? Thats blog life.
Well PLAX would instantly be the biggest WR or TE on our roster. He is long armed and wins jump balls with ease in the endzone. I think he would be a good fit, obiviously not an everydown WR on our squad BUT a great contributor in the red zone, comes cheap, season already in play so no $ guaranteed, and he already ate his humble pie … bring em on./////////////////////Agree all the way.
September 13th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
here is to hoping that the return of Dmoore will result in more room to work for our other speed challenged wrs. seems to me Dmoor is our only wr capable of running a legit deep route. DHB routes are so stiff and robotic while Dmoore is very fluid in his movements thus Dmoore being our only true deep threat. With DMC and Dmoore garnering most of the attention from opposing def maybe this will open up some space for streat and Hagan to actually be able to get YAC.
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100% agree.
Moore means better success for DHB and Streater, CP3 and even the run game.
September 13th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
raiderinparadise Says: You do know your short handle in here is RIP don’t you?
September 13th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
Riff, how is wondering how much the play book was limited due to injuries and new players blaming the coaches? It is what it is. Injuries suck and was just wondering how dumbed down it was because of it.
September 13th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
*Off topic:
I guess the American people aren’t as stupid as Romney figured. BrownStains excluded of course. Lol
God bless America.
September 13th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
zopi Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
Again, if the Raiders make first downs and move the chains, there wouldn’t be a need for punting. The fact is that, as just everyone here agrees, the Raiders coaches prepared a terrible offensive plan and scheme that was stopped by the dolts defensive adjustments in the second half, and the Raiders coaches didn’t adjust their scheme forcing the punts and the collapse of the game/
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John Pagano did a very good job against us. 6 points in the lst half is not going to cut it. And Norphus basically made a big play every time he had to. And special teams were a disaster. Sounds like we got outcoached to me…..
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Those 6 points had nothing to do with SanDiusky’s coaching.
Streater & Reece fumbled and Tommy Kelly couldnt keep it in his pants.
Our gameplan was more than solid and our talent on paper is hand over fist better than SanDiusky.
THE PLAYERS HAVE TO MAKE PLAYS!
SanDusky’s players made plays when it counted, we didnt. End of story.
September 13th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
RT @VicTafur: Raiders first: Merle Haggard playing in locker room courtesy of Dave Tollefson — Some players weren’t liking rap being played////////////See, now that’s funny.
September 13th, 2012 at 3:10 pm
The Big Banana Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
Riff, how is wondering how much the play book was limited due to injuries and new players blaming the coaches? It is what it is. Injuries suck and was just wondering how dumbed down it was because of it.
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Sorry. I just got carried away. Most here want to blame anyone and everyone except for the people paid to make plays and I lumped you in there.
It didnt look like the playbook was limited at all. I mean, we realistically could have blown them out of the water so that tells me the playbook was fine. We didnt look limited by our playcalling at all to me.
By all accounts Hagen is a really hard worker and studies hard. If he didnt know his stuff then Criner would have played more dont you think?
September 13th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
Purvisman Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
RT @VicTafur: Raiders first: Merle Haggard playing in locker room courtesy of Dave Tollefson — Some players weren’t liking rap being played////////////See, now that’s funny.
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isn’t that why headphones were made?
September 13th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
I think the put your pants ppl jinxed us..
September 13th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
r8dercain Says:
Rather have T.O. then plax
////////////////Why? And by that I mean why in the he11 could you even type that? Let alone hit the submit coment button?
September 13th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
lost an ‘m’. there.
September 13th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
purvisman Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
raiderinparadise Says: You do know your short handle in here is RIP don’t you?
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Thank you for informing me! Now that I know I can talk more like an idot to garner some respect around here and fit in with 75% of this blog. RIP is sucha cool short handle …thank you perves_on_men we call you FAG
September 13th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
LoL
September 13th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
I think the put your pants ppl jinxed us..
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Trolls
September 13th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
Why don’t one of you semi’s get a press pass and go ask the coaches some tough questions? Let jer get ya in a show you the ropes? That would be epic.
September 13th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
SanDusky’s players made plays when it counted, we didnt. End of story.
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I have been saying that for years. The game plan against the Raiders for 10 years has been keep the game close and the Raiders will make a crucial mistake to end it. Once again, that’s what happened.
September 13th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
KoolKell Says: God bless America.//////////KK’s account got hacked.
September 13th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
Marks Hair Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
I think the put your pants ppl jinxed us..
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jinx sminx PUT YOUR PANTS!!!
September 13th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
KK, PUT YOUR PANTS
September 13th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
Nice One Two Eastoak.
September 13th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
Riff, wasn’t Criner ailing too? I thought he was limited in practice, or did they say he was a go? If so, yes, you make a good point and they would’ve gone with him if they felt it was an issue.
September 13th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
purvisman Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says: I’m sorry but this is an offense that has never been seen in the pros.//////////////I’m having a real hard time with this concept. All 32 teams over the history of the NFL paying big bucks to hacks that don’t even understand the college game? C’mon man!
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name another team outside of the last two years that has done what we have seen the redskins and carolina?
No one they are doing sopmething that has not been done in the pro game these are two new offenses, but dont take my word for it ask trent dilfer
September 13th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
Marks Hair Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
I think the put your pants ppl jinxed us..
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It is only the lamest thing I have seen in the blog. It was funny the first day (if you were drunk or stoned, maybe) but it did not work fire the saying like you wanna fire Knapp
September 13th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
PUT YOUR LINEN PANTS FOR MIA!!!
September 13th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
I think the put your pants ppl jinxed us..
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Trolls
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You jink us every week with your Debbie Downer vibe.
September 13th, 2012 at 3:19 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
SanDusky’s players made plays when it counted, we didnt. End of story.
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I have been saying that for years. The game plan against the Raiders for 10 years has been keep the game close and the Raiders will make a crucial mistake to end it. Once again, that’s what happened.
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And that is indicative of a losing atmosphere. Winners find ways to win. Losers find ways to jump offsides on 3rd and short in critical situations.
In the past 10 years, sometimes (mostly) it was on the coaches or ownership, sometimes it was on the players. But on Monday it was 100% on the players. They found a way to lose because we have a losing atmosphere in the locker room now just like we’ve had ever since Gannon got hurt. It’s like a cancer. It’s tough to shake. It usually takes a season or two.
We were hoping we could turn it around quickly now, but clearly we havent yet.
September 13th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
You jink us every week with your Debbie Downer vibe.
lotta talk about pills today Hillbilly Heroin now downers WTF?
September 13th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
One of the reasons I became a RAIDER fanatic was due to the fact they reminded me so much of The New Zealand “ALL BLACKS” Rugby team. These guys are just like our “OLD RAIDERS” playing a fast, intimidating, smash mouth style of game, and no matter what corner of the globe they were playing in they always wore their “ALL BLACK” gear, and they were playing offense/defense for a full 80 minutes. So please my Oakland Raiders, please don’t act like candy ass*s on Sunday because you’ve got to wear your black jerseys. Be proud of that fact and go out and kick the carp out of the fins, suck it up!
September 13th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
The Big Banana Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
Riff, wasn’t Criner ailing too? I thought he was limited in practice, or did they say he was a go? If so, yes, you make a good point and they would’ve gone with him if they felt it was an issue.
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Criner was limited in practice, but that was because they wanted to save his ankle.
He suited up and played, which meant he was good to go. Hagen is just more of a sure thing. The guy is a consumate pro.
September 13th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
We jinxed ourselves by firing Huejax now its biting us in the ass. All Hue bashers are now getting what they deserve to bad I gotta suffer with you.
September 13th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
just drink some more water and gatorade and man the fvck up. No excuses
September 13th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
89. The home team chooses colors or whites. Most chose colors.. pretty sure we’ll be in white sunday.
September 13th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
Raider Riff Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 2:05 pmMistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
I hope D.A and BIg MCK are paying close attention to what happens in carolina and washington this year.
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Me too, as both teams will probably finish dead last in their division.
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Umm i dont know if you know this but both offenses are state of the art, and have dynamic qbs the likes of which have never been seen in pro football. Both play for flawed teams, but are truly guys that you can build championship teams around.
Both employ qbs THAT YOU SAID WOULD FLOP, BRIGHT BOY.
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did you watch them play on sunday becauase it doesnt match what you are saying at all.
RGIII was running shanahans wco, the same shotgun version that elway and plummer used. The big difference is the college/ baylor scheme that shanahan has blended with it. hevy on zone runs and quick short passing to set up deep strikes I formation, shotgun roll out, zone reads, bootlegs, pistol formation, and attacking every area on the field through the air. ther are motions and play fakes on every snap. Im sorry but this is an offense that has never been seen in the pros.
newtons offense is also a blend of the college spread option only it is blended with a vertical passing game and power running. deep 5-7 step drops, seam heavy attack based on play action. lots of motion, zone reads, qb draws, pistol formations, shotguns and misdirection.
NO ONE HAS EVER DONE THIS IN THE NFL BEFORE THESE TWO.
i know it bothers some people but they are breaking new ground, and we can to with pryor
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The only new ground that is being broken is that a coach was finally given the leeway to dumb down the playbook in order to give his QB’s the best chance to succeed.
It’s a good way to go, dont get me wrong. But it is far from exotic or state of the art. And it is far from proven to be playoff caliber or even SuperBowl caliber.
If those teams want to get to the dance, eventually their systems are going to evolve into something more “grown up”.
I think Cam will make it there. Im unsure about RG3. He has all the intangibles. But I dont think his body will hold up. Ive watched two of his games now and he takes a ton of punishment. It wont last. Im a believer in what Vick can do but he is the same problem, takes too much abuse to be consistently in the lineup for his team.
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not sure why it bothers people so much to admit that this has never been done in THE NFL. Same question for you, what team outside fo washington and carolina have employed such a heavyily influnced spread option offense and blended them with conventional wco or vertical passing?
Simple nobody. the fact that this is new TO THE NFL, means RGIII and cam are trail blazing a new era of qb play in the pro game.
anybody that tries to comare vick and RGIII dont really understand what they are seeing. RgIII does not take the punishment that vick takes, and is a much more polished passer as a rookie.
The offenses have not been dumbed down they have been augmented to new hieghts and that is why cam set records and turned in the greatest rookie qb season in the 90 year history of nfl football. teams cant defend it. If it wee dumbed down as you put it why are they so prolific in their young careers?
September 13th, 2012 at 3:25 pm
Called this a few days ago… No surprises there. Ford is just a faster Chaz
September 13th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
Marks Hair Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
89. The home team chooses colors or whites. Most chose colors.. pretty sure we’ll be in white sunday.
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Miami always chooses their whites early in the year. Especially against us they always have.
September 13th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
Marks Hair Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
89. The home team chooses colors or whites. Most chose colors.. pretty sure we’ll be in white sunday.
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who is the genius who posted this. They always make us wear black when we go to MIA. Must be one of you casual fans
September 13th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
Id compare rg3 to a rogers with vick mobility.. little smaller than rogers
September 13th, 2012 at 3:28 pm
Sorry Mark, but if the fins coach has any common sense he’ll have our boys wearing black in that heat and humidity, sure as hell I would! However, our guys have got to go out there and not let it bother them, act as if it really is no big deal and beat the living carp out o’ them fins.
September 13th, 2012 at 3:29 pm
I just cant remember.. im smoking weed.. but thanks for being mean east..
September 13th, 2012 at 3:30 pm
how big is RGlll I just assumed he was a bigger guy
September 13th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
We jinxed ourselves by firing Huejax now its biting us in the ass. All Hue bashers are now getting what they deserve to bad I gotta suffer with you.
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In the days when Mark Davis’ haircut was in style, Hue would have been beheaded for treason. Hue Jack is lucky he has job.
September 13th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
RGIII is a modern day aaron brooks
September 13th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
not sure why it bothers people so much to admit that this has never been done in THE NFL. Same question for you, what team outside fo washington and carolina have employed such a heavyily influnced spread option offense and blended them with conventional wco or vertical passing?
Simple nobody. the fact that this is new TO THE NFL, means RGIII and cam are trail blazing a new era of qb play in the pro game.
anybody that tries to comare vick and RGIII dont really understand what they are seeing. RgIII does not take the punishment that vick takes, and is a much more polished passer as a rookie.
The offenses have not been dumbed down they have been augmented to new hieghts and that is why cam set records and turned in the greatest rookie qb season in the 90 year history of nfl football. teams cant defend it. If it wee dumbed down as you put it why are they so prolific in their young careers?
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They are so prolific in their young careers because QB’s cant be hit and WRs cant be touched.
Plus, there was no offseason last year so Cam had an advantage over the defenses, which are extremely complex these days. He’s got a rude awakening coming this year.
Mistic, Im sure their is a black QB forum you can go find where you and other racists can prop your guys up. Or better yet, go to a Redskins forum. Because we dont care. You keep bringing up this crap and it has nothing to do with us except for the very small fact that we have a black QB as our emergency QB.
It has nothing to do with the topics any of us are discussing. Go chat on the NAACP forums or something. Until your dumbed down college offense actually can win a division championships, we just dont care.
September 13th, 2012 at 3:33 pm
aaron brooks and akili smith were just 10-15 years too early lol
September 13th, 2012 at 3:34 pm
guys open your mind, your eyes and get with the times.
If you are paying attention there are more young athletic qbs starting in the nfl than ever in its history
gabbert, luck, ponder, smith, * then the freakishly athletic group vick, newton, rgIII, & wilson.
This is the new trend and denial of this fact is fool hearty. Not only are there more athletic starters but there also a plethora of number two guys that fit this mold waitng in the wings. in fact some teams have thier top 2 qbs in this exact mold.
Do people have a problem with the fact that the most athletic guys look nothing like the old model physically?
September 13th, 2012 at 3:34 pm
6′2
September 13th, 2012 at 3:34 pm
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
We jinxed ourselves by firing Huejax now its biting us in the ass. All Hue bashers are now getting what they deserve to bad I gotta suffer with you.
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In the days when Mark Davis’ haircut was in style, Hue would have been beheaded for treason. Hue Jack is lucky he has job.
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HUEJAX is somewhere watching the SD game over an over laughing his ass off
September 13th, 2012 at 3:35 pm
Raiderinparadise Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
RGIII is a modern day aaron brooks
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He’s a lot better than Brooks.
Heck, I loved Brooks when he was with New Orleans. Back when he actually cared.
Such a different player when he was with us. Such a shame. The bed-n-breakfast offense didnt help matters Im sure.
September 13th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
Raider Riff Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 3:19 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
SanDusky’s players made plays when it counted, we didnt. End of story.
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I have been saying that for years. The game plan against the Raiders for 10 years has been keep the game close and the Raiders will make a crucial mistake to end it. Once again, that’s what happened.
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And that is indicative of a losing atmosphere. Winners find ways to win. Losers find ways to jump offsides on 3rd and short in critical situations.
In the past 10 years, sometimes (mostly) it was on the coaches or ownership, sometimes it was on the players. But on Monday it was 100% on the players. They found a way to lose because we have a losing atmosphere in the locker room now just like we’ve had ever since Gannon got hurt. It’s like a cancer. It’s tough to shake. It usually takes a season or two.
We were hoping we could turn it around quickly now, but clearly we havent yet.
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Completely agree. My only difference is over the last ten years I have put it completely on the players. They just did NOT make the plays when they needed. It seems like other teams can turn it up a notch and we don’t. I thought I saw some of that again on Monday night. The second half SD turned it up on the LOS, we didn’t.
September 13th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
Raider Riff Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
Mistic, Im sure their is a black QB forum you can go find where you and other racists can prop your guys up. Or better yet, go to a Redskins forum. Because we dont care. You keep bringing up this crap and it has nothing to do with us except for the very small fact that we have a black QB as our emergency QB.
It has nothing to do with the topics any of us are discussing. Go chat on the NAACP forums or something. Until your dumbed down college offense actually can win a division championships, we just dont care.
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Wow, it’s never far from the surface, is it?
September 13th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
Code rampage if we lose!!
September 13th, 2012 at 3:37 pm
HUEJAX is somewhere watching the SD game over an over laughing his ass off
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Jackson is lucky to have a job in the league. And the way the Bunghole defense got torched by Flacco Monday, he may not have one much longer.
September 13th, 2012 at 3:37 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 3:34 pm
guys open your mind, your eyes and get with the times.
If you are paying attention there are more young athletic qbs starting in the nfl than ever in its history
gabbert, luck, ponder, smith, * then the freakishly athletic group vick, newton, rgIII, & wilson.
This is the new trend and denial of this fact is fool hearty. Not only are there more athletic starters but there also a plethora of number two guys that fit this mold waitng in the wings. in fact some teams have thier top 2 qbs in this exact mold.
Do people have a problem with the fact that the most athletic guys look nothing like the old model physically?
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People have a problem with the fact that these new guys cant stay healthy. And they generally can grasp the basic mental aspects of the QB position, largely due to a poor college coaching experience (not their skin color).
Why dont you list Tebow in your list of freakish athletes? Got a problem with white QB’s who are gay?
September 13th, 2012 at 3:37 pm
Is plax being blackballed? is shockey being blackballed? why not pick them both up?
fords injury can be a blessing in disguise if we pick up plax. as a receiver we already have a better version in ford. dhb and streater possesion guys. moore and criner deep threat. plax the redzone/makes up for not having a big time TE
September 13th, 2012 at 3:38 pm
better version in moore
September 13th, 2012 at 3:38 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
Raider Riff Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
Mistic, Im sure their is a black QB forum you can go find where you and other racists can prop your guys up. Or better yet, go to a Redskins forum. Because we dont care. You keep bringing up this crap and it has nothing to do with us except for the very small fact that we have a black QB as our emergency QB.
It has nothing to do with the topics any of us are discussing. Go chat on the NAACP forums or something. Until your dumbed down college offense actually can win a division championships, we just dont care.
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Wow, it’s never far from the surface, is it?
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Not with you and mistic.
Dont act like I didnt see your comment about white rural people and oxycotins. That was about as stupid as me saying that blacks are more prone to use crack.
September 13th, 2012 at 3:39 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
Raider Riff Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
Mistic, Im sure their is a black QB forum you can go find where you and other racists can prop your guys up. Or better yet, go to a Redskins forum. Because we dont care. You keep bringing up this crap and it has nothing to do with us except for the very small fact that we have a black QB as our emergency QB.
It has nothing to do with the topics any of us are discussing. Go chat on the NAACP forums or something. Until your dumbed down college offense actually can win a division championships, we just dont care.
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Wow, it’s never far from the surface, is it?
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maybe you didnt mean to Riff or maybe you did but you are the one who sounds like a racist with those comments
September 13th, 2012 at 3:39 pm
HUEJAX is somewhere watching the SD game over an over laughing his ass off
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Highly doubt that given his team was spanked thoroughly.
September 13th, 2012 at 3:40 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
I think the put your pants ppl jinxed us..
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Trolls
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How come every time you get slapped around, you claim they’re trolls?
If not that, you call them racist.
Seems your whole life is a senior moment.
September 13th, 2012 at 3:40 pm
I have no idea just who this Liz Franc tramp is. But, I sure hope that the Raider playas would quit messing around with her. That ho is bad ju ju…..
Get well Jacoby, see ya next year….
September 13th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
Inonewordraider Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 3:37 pm
Is plax being blackballed? is shockey being blackballed? why not pick them both up?
fords injury can be a blessing in disguise if we pick up plax. as a receiver we already have a better version in ford. dhb and streater possesion guys. moore and criner deep threat. plax the redzone/makes up for not having a big time TE
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Plax may be an insurance risk. Guys like TO and Plax often wont get deals late into their careers due to the insurance premiums that come with a player with their history or age.
There is a reason why most players are out of the league by year 4. Pension and insurance costs.
Shockey is being blackballed for being one of the snitches in the bounty case.
September 13th, 2012 at 3:42 pm
Raider Riff Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
not sure why it bothers people so much to admit that this has never been done in THE NFL. Same question for you, what team outside fo washington and carolina have employed such a heavyily influnced spread option offense and blended them with conventional wco or vertical passing?
Simple nobody. the fact that this is new TO THE NFL, means RGIII and cam are trail blazing a new era of qb play in the pro game.
anybody that tries to comare vick and RGIII dont really understand what they are seeing. RgIII does not take the punishment that vick takes, and is a much more polished passer as a rookie.
The offenses have not been dumbed down they have been augmented to new hieghts and that is why cam set records and turned in the greatest rookie qb season in the 90 year history of nfl football. teams cant defend it. If it wee dumbed down as you put it why are they so prolific in their young careers?
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They are so prolific in their young careers because QB’s cant be hit and WRs cant be touched.
Plus, there was no offseason last year so Cam had an advantage over the defenses, which are extremely complex these days. He’s got a rude awakening coming this year.
Mistic, Im sure their is a black QB forum you can go find where you and other racists can prop your guys up. Or better yet, go to a Redskins forum. Because we dont care. You keep bringing up this crap and it has nothing to do with us except for the very small fact that we have a black QB as our emergency QB.
It has nothing to do with the topics any of us are discussing. Go chat on the NAACP forums or something. Until your dumbed down college offense actually can win a division championships, we just dont care.
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did you really just say that Cam was successful “because ther was no camp” last year?!?!?!
My friend time has proven beyond the shadow of a doubt that qbs’ especially need camp to get thier games together but also to get the entire offense in synch. Plenty of qb’s struggled last year because of missing camp, plenty have struggled historically after hold outs or injuries. that is the single most ridiculous argument I have ever seen here.
secondly it isnt my fault that the nfl is shifting further and further to the mobile qb, and it isnt my fault that black qb’s are now being viewd in the draft room as being on par or superior to their whit counterparts in the new era.
I think the fact that they are black bothers you because you have a problem with black people in general. you are ok with black men blocking catching and running, but you dont like to see a black man lead.
go wash your hood and leave this trash off the board so the rest of us can talk football
September 13th, 2012 at 3:42 pm
Jacoby Ford surely has enough money to visit the worlds best foot specialist …. Rex Ryan.
September 13th, 2012 at 3:43 pm
Inonewordraider Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 3:37 pm
Is plax being blackballed? is shockey being blackballed? why not pick them both up?
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Totally forgot about Shockey.
September 13th, 2012 at 3:43 pm
The NFL figured out Cam Newton. He lost four of five games and finished the year with a flourish. Except in that flourish he only beat Indy (who finished 2-14) Tampon Bay twice (who ended 4-12) and a Houston team that started a third string rookie. He also lost the opener to that same 4-12 Tampon Bay team. The league has a way of figuring players out. Once you have been successful in the league for a while, you can talk.
September 13th, 2012 at 3:43 pm
vicks never been very good although he’s exciting. luck and rodgers very athletic qb’s. freeman drop back qb. rgIII Wilson and Cam can be special, but let’s wait till they win some rings.
September 13th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 3:39 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
Raider Riff Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
Mistic, Im sure their is a black QB forum you can go find where you and other racists can prop your guys up. Or better yet, go to a Redskins forum. Because we dont care. You keep bringing up this crap and it has nothing to do with us except for the very small fact that we have a black QB as our emergency QB.
It has nothing to do with the topics any of us are discussing. Go chat on the NAACP forums or something. Until your dumbed down college offense actually can win a division championships, we just dont care.
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Wow, it’s never far from the surface, is it?
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maybe you didnt mean to Riff or maybe you did but you are the one who sounds like a racist with those comments
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How so? Im just giving him what he wants. He only wants to talk about black QBs. I could care less what color their skin is. You cant say the same about Mistic, otherwise he’d be calling for Tebow as well.
September 13th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 3:37 pm
HUEJAX is somewhere watching the SD game over an over laughing his ass off
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Jackson is lucky to have a job in the league. And the way the Bunghole defense got torched by Flacco Monday, he may not have one much longer.
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is that the best you can do? he turned our trash O around in one season thus Huejax laughing his ass off after he tivo’ed the game and while we sit here and whine about our offense (again)
September 13th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 3:37 pm
HUEJAX is somewhere watching the SD game over an over laughing his ass off
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Jackson is lucky to have a job in the league. And the way the Bunghole defense got torched by Flacco Monday, he may not have one much longer.
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is that the best you can do? he turned our trash O around in one season thus Huejax laughing his ass off after he tivo’ed the game and while we sit here and whine about our offense (again)
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I’m not whining about our offense? Are you?
September 13th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
Raider Riff Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 3:37 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 3:34 pm
guys open your mind, your eyes and get with the times.
If you are paying attention there are more young athletic qbs starting in the nfl than ever in its history
gabbert, luck, ponder, smith, * then the freakishly athletic group vick, newton, rgIII, & wilson.
This is the new trend and denial of this fact is fool hearty. Not only are there more athletic starters but there also a plethora of number two guys that fit this mold waitng in the wings. in fact some teams have thier top 2 qbs in this exact mold.
Do people have a problem with the fact that the most athletic guys look nothing like the old model physically?
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People have a problem with the fact that these new guys cant stay healthy. And they generally can grasp the basic mental aspects of the QB position, largely due to a poor college coaching experience (not their skin color).
Why dont you list Tebow in your list of freakish athletes? Got a problem with white QB’s who are gay?
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More poorly thought out drivel
palmer, manning, romo, stafford, bradford, brady
all have missed significant time with injuries.
these guys are not mobile, and mobile qbs dont corner the market on injuries
are you awake over there
September 13th, 2012 at 3:47 pm
Good riddance to Ford. He is a loser anyway. He under-performed in the pre-season making mistake after mistake.
Sometimes certain people shine brightly at first and their star dims. That is the case with Ford.
We don’t need him at all. He should be cut, along with Moore and Jones if they can’t stay healthy.
If those two morons, Moore and Jones tweak their “lil” hammies in Miami I would send them down the road so fast their heads would spin.
September 13th, 2012 at 3:48 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
did you really just say that Cam was successful “because ther was no camp” last year?!?!?!
My friend time has proven beyond the shadow of a doubt that qbs’ especially need camp to get thier games together but also to get the entire offense in synch. Plenty of qb’s struggled last year because of missing camp, plenty have struggled historically after hold outs or injuries. that is the single most ridiculous argument I have ever seen here.
secondly it isnt my fault that the nfl is shifting further and further to the mobile qb, and it isnt my fault that black qb’s are now being viewd in the draft room as being on par or superior to their whit counterparts in the new era.
I think the fact that they are black bothers you because you have a problem with black people in general. you are ok with black men blocking catching and running, but you dont like to see a black man lead.
go wash your hood and leave this trash off the board so the rest of us can talk football
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Its well known that the defenses got hurt by the lockout more than the offenses.
I dont care what color a QB is. You are the one that wants to constantly have a discussion about black athletic QBs, not white ones, just black ones. And I say I dont give a rats a55. None of them are Raiders. So who the F cares? Only you.
If I had a problem with black QB’s I wouldnt be pushing for TP. But I am pushing for him. So try again.
September 13th, 2012 at 3:48 pm
Mistic, did you really say RGIII was best player Shanahan ever coached? That’s a joke!
September 13th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
@Mistic1
Romo isn’t mobile? That dude can move in the pocket…
September 13th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 3:43 pm
The NFL figured out Cam Newton. He lost four of five games and finished the year with a flourish. Except in that flourish he only beat Indy (who finished 2-14) Tampon Bay twice (who ended 4-12) and a Houston team that started a third string rookie. He also lost the opener to that same 4-12 Tampon Bay team. The league has a way of figuring players out. Once you have been successful in the league for a while, you can talk.
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the league did not “catch up to newton”. the panthers were an awful team that went 2-14 before cam got there. Cam as a rookie played with the same guys that went 2-14 and increased the wins by four games. the panthers defense was nearly as bad as oakland last year. the panthers were one of the leaders in blown 4th quarter leads last year with multiple come from ahead loses.
September 13th, 2012 at 3:51 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 3:37 pm
HUEJAX is somewhere watching the SD game over an over laughing his ass off
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Jackson is lucky to have a job in the league. And the way the Bunghole defense got torched by Flacco Monday, he may not have one much longer.
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is that the best you can do? he turned our trash O around in one season thus Huejax laughing his ass off after he tivo’ed the game and while we sit here and whine about our offense (again)
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He didn’t turn our offense around in one season and if he is sitting around watching our game while his defense gets absolutely torched, he should get fired again. And BTW, he wasn’t watching our game, he was getting his nails done.
September 13th, 2012 at 3:51 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
More poorly thought out drivel
palmer, manning, romo, stafford, bradford, brady
all have missed significant time with injuries.
these guys are not mobile, and mobile qbs dont corner the market on injuries
are you awake over there
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Having fun yet troll? Sooner or later tho you might want to wonder who is trolling who here? For all we know you are just some white dude looking to get other whites mad at black people. Nice try.
But to answer your question, when you build a offense around a pocket QB, it is easy to have a 2nd string pocket QB. It is impossible to have a Mike Vick clone as your #2 guy and thus the whole rythmn of your offense changes when Vick is out. Its a coaching nightmare.
Im not against the new style QB. Im just against hearing about it every 5 minutes from you. Nobody here cares.
September 13th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
cmon fire krappy already….
September 13th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
@Mistic1
Romo isn’t mobile? That dude can move in the pocket…
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romo is another mobile qb
This is a new day as i can clearly remember the day when you would have maybe one or 2 guys that fit that mold, now the league is filled with them
it isnt a black white thing at all
September 13th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
Carson Palmer is both Black & Silver … and on the road White … diverse mixture.
September 13th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
the league did not “catch up to newton”. the panthers were an awful team that went 2-14 before cam got there.
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That “awful” team won 12 games two years before Newton got there. They can’t be that bad.
September 13th, 2012 at 3:54 pm
Raider Riff Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 3:51 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
More poorly thought out drivel
palmer, manning, romo, stafford, bradford, brady
all have missed significant time with injuries.
these guys are not mobile, and mobile qbs dont corner the market on injuries
are you awake over there
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Having fun yet troll? Sooner or later tho you might want to wonder who is trolling who here? For all we know you are just some white dude looking to get other whites mad at black people. Nice try.
But to answer your question, when you build a offense around a pocket QB, it is easy to have a 2nd string pocket QB. It is impossible to have a Mike Vick clone as your #2 guy and thus the whole rythmn of your offense changes when Vick is out. Its a coaching nightmare.
Im not against the new style QB. Im just against hearing about it every 5 minutes from you. Nobody here cares.
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you made a fool of yourself trying to make it about race.
romo, luck, gabbert, ponder are not black…what planet are you on
September 13th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
@Mistic1
Romo isn’t mobile? That dude can move in the pocket…
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And all the guys he listed have only been hurt once in their careers that cost them significant time.
Vick has been hurt every single season. It will be the same for RG3 and Wilson.
Cam is big enough to take the abuse, as is TP. But they are much harder of a QB to find. Most new style QB’s are of the smaller frame variety.
September 13th, 2012 at 3:57 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
it isnt a black white thing at all
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Then why do you care? Why do you only post about Wilson, RG3, and Newton?
Why dont you post about Tebow, a guy who has actually won stuff?
Why do you post here about topics that have nothing to do with the Raiders?
September 13th, 2012 at 4:00 pm
Tebow doesnt belong with those group of qbs neither does luck. hate to have to say it but im going to. White people are not very athletic and thats in all three major sports at the athletic demanding positions and what I mean by that is positions like wr rb db baseball CF basket ball SG PG you would be hard pressed to find any white player that you can say is better than a black player at any of those positions.
September 13th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
Riff, Mistic actually blamed Russel Wilson’s bad game on Tom Cable’s O-Line.
September 13th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
romo, luck, gabbert, ponder are not black…what planet are you on
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Im talking to an ignorant fool, so Planet of the Apes apparently.
I dont here you ever post about Romo, Luck, Gabbert, or Ponder. All of which, I might add, arent even close to being considered mobile running QBs of the same mold as Wilson, Vick, and RG3.
September 13th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
the league did not “catch up to newton”. the panthers were an awful team that went 2-14 before cam got there.
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That “awful” team won 12 games two years before Newton got there. They can’t be that bad.
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john fox was fired and they went full rebuild last year. Didnt you know that? that was an awful team that cam improved with his other wordly talent.
I know you didnt thik he could do it but i want to direct your attention to the record books.
brady, manning, marino, montana, young, staubach, elway, unitas, baugh, farve, rodgers, brees, ALONG WITH EVERY OTHER QB THAT HAS EVER PLAYED IN THE NFL THROUGHOUT ITS MORE THAN 90 YEAR HISTORY IS LOOKING UP TO CAM IN THE RECORD BOOKS!!!
what are you saying?
this directly contradicts your take about him not being a pocket passer, or the league catching up to him or him some how being over rated.
score board bra, thank for playing
September 13th, 2012 at 4:03 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 4:00 pm
Tebow doesnt belong with those group of qbs neither does luck. hate to have to say it but im going to. White people are not very athletic and thats in all three major sports at the athletic demanding positions and what I mean by that is positions like wr rb db baseball CF basket ball SG PG you would be hard pressed to find any white player that you can say is better than a black player at any of those positions.
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A white players problem isnt typically his athletic ability.
The biggest thing holding white players back is that they usually dont have the fortitude to endure the rigors of professional sports.
There is a lot more on the line for the black athlete. They put in the effort as if their lives depend on it, because to some degree, its true. Sports are one of the only “ways out” that society provide so they play with that motivating them.
September 13th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
Were Fran Tarkenton, Roger Starbach, Terry Bradshaw Steve Young, Jim Mcmahon and Doug Flutie scrambling QBs? All these QBs careers lasted long enough….maybe Doug’s didn’t last as long.
September 13th, 2012 at 4:05 pm
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
Riff, Mistic actually blamed Russel Wilson’s bad game on Tom Cable’s O-Line.
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I didnt think Wilson had a bad game. Played pretty dang well for a rookie. And he made the perfect throw to win the game. Not much more you can ask from a QB of any experience. The WR didnt make the play. Typical Braylon Edwards, hands of stone.
September 13th, 2012 at 4:05 pm
score board bra, thank for playing
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Uh no guy, I don’t think you take a 12-4 team and go full rebuild mode unless you are a knuckledead. You get rid of the coach. Which they did. And like I posted, Newton only beat the very bottom rung of the league last year at the end. You know why? Not because of his “other worldly” talent, but because he played on a team that went 12-4 before he got there. And they could beat cellar dwellers. And just an FYI, I like Newton. I like him a lot, but again, I don’t think his bust in Canton should be unveiled just yet. But thanks again for proving my point.
September 13th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
World’s Ugliest Woman? Klas would do her.
http://shine.yahoo.com/beauty/lessons-worlds-ugliest-woman-stop-staring-start-learning-184400606.html
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Stand in line Klas…She is smokin hot.
September 13th, 2012 at 4:08 pm
I didnt think Wilson had a bad game. Played pretty dang well for a rookie. And he made the perfect throw to win the game. Not much more you can ask from a QB of any experience. The WR didnt make the play. Typical Braylon Edwards, hands of stone.
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You lose to Cardinals, you had bad game.
September 13th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
Marks Hair Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
89. The home team chooses colors or whites. Most chose colors.. pretty sure we’ll be in white sunday.
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who is the genius who posted this. They always make us wear black when we go to MIA. Must be one of you casual fans
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Exactly….fish think its gives them some kind of edge because black jerseys are warmer
September 13th, 2012 at 4:10 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 4:00 pm
Tebow doesnt belong with those group of qbs neither does luck. hate to have to say it but im going to. White people are not very athletic and thats in all three major sports at the athletic demanding positions and what I mean by that is positions like wr rb db baseball CF basket ball SG PG you would be hard pressed to find any white player that you can say is better than a black player at any of those positions.
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Also, the two best PG’s of the last 10 years (Kidd & Nash) are either very unathletic (Kidd) or white (Nash).
The most important muscle in the game is heart. Most suburban white kids dont have it.
September 13th, 2012 at 4:11 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 3:51 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 3:37 pm
HUEJAX is somewhere watching the SD game over an over laughing his ass off
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Jackson is lucky to have a job in the league. And the way the Bunghole defense got torched by Flacco Monday, he may not have one much longer.
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is that the best you can do? he turned our trash O around in one season thus Huejax laughing his ass off after he tivo’ed the game and while we sit here and whine about our offense (again)
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He didn’t turn our offense around in one season and if he is sitting around watching our game while his defense gets absolutely torched, he should get fired again. And BTW, he wasn’t watching our game, he was getting his nails done.
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dont know what you were watching but all I know is when Hue took over the O we actually looked like an offense and now thats he gone were back to struggling thus once again Hue laughing his ass off. and why is Hue A know offensive guy coaching D just like the eagles having an oline coach as a dcoord last year. dumbasses.
September 13th, 2012 at 4:11 pm
Raider Riff Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 3:57 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
it isnt a black white thing at all
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Then why do you care? Why do you only post about Wilson, RG3, and Newton?
Why dont you post about Tebow, a guy who has actually won stuff?
Why do you post here about topics that have nothing to do with the Raiders?
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you shouldnt make comments with out having knowledge it makes you out to be a fool. why do i care?
1. RGIII cam and wilson were my 3 favorite qbs in college over the last 2 years. i predicted they would all do well in the nfl, if coaches would allow them to play their game and change the offense. i was right so far. many said they would never make it and if they did they would flop or be career back ups.
2. i did post about tebow last year. i commented that the offense that they ran for tebow was disproving the myths about option offense being ineffective in the nfl. i thanked tebow because even as a severely limited passer he was opening the door for other qbs that were though of as athletes playing qb. i also said that other teams should emulate the broncos and incorporate the spread option in the pros. i wondered out loud what it would have been like in years past if others had the same opportunities tebow had, having an offense especially built for him based on the option concept. guys like tommie frazier and kordell stewart. i mentioned that i would like to see the raiders do something simlar for pryor
3. this is about the raiders because we also have a dynamic mobile qb waiting in the wings. he is aguy i believe can take our stale 1990’s version wco and launch it into the space age, much like rgIII and cam
September 13th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 4:08 pm
I didnt think Wilson had a bad game. Played pretty dang well for a rookie. And he made the perfect throw to win the game. Not much more you can ask from a QB of any experience. The WR didnt make the play. Typical Braylon Edwards, hands of stone.
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You lose to Cardinals, you had bad game.
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Cardinals have what looks to be an above average defense. For a rookie to keep them in the game to the end, and give them a shot at winning, says a lot.
September 13th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
Remember, I had to watch the seattle game Klas. My gf is a fan.
September 13th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
Bring in carter and plax
September 13th, 2012 at 4:13 pm
its genetics associated with racial background … black people have more fast twitch muscles. FACT.
September 13th, 2012 at 4:13 pm
Raider Riff Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
romo, luck, gabbert, ponder are not black…what planet are you on
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Im talking to an ignorant fool, so Planet of the Apes apparently.
I dont here you ever post about Romo, Luck, Gabbert, or Ponder. All of which, I might add, arent even close to being considered mobile running QBs of the same mold as Wilson, Vick, and RG3.
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you cant read either apperntly
I listed gabbert ponder and luck as being mobile, then made another category for vick newton and rgIII i will ad pryor to this mix as well, freakish athletes that can out run a defense for 60-70-80- yards at atime
September 13th, 2012 at 4:14 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 4:11 pm
Raider Riff Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 3:57 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
it isnt a black white thing at all
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Then why do you care? Why do you only post about Wilson, RG3, and Newton?
Why dont you post about Tebow, a guy who has actually won stuff?
Why do you post here about topics that have nothing to do with the Raiders?
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you shouldnt make comments with out having knowledge it makes you out to be a fool. why do i care?
1. RGIII cam and wilson were my 3 favorite qbs in college over the last 2 years. i predicted they would all do well in the nfl, if coaches would allow them to play their game and change the offense. i was right so far. many said they would never make it and if they did they would flop or be career back ups.
2. i did post about tebow last year. i commented that the offense that they ran for tebow was disproving the myths about option offense being ineffective in the nfl. i thanked tebow because even as a severely limited passer he was opening the door for other qbs that were though of as athletes playing qb. i also said that other teams should emulate the broncos and incorporate the spread option in the pros. i wondered out loud what it would have been like in years past if others had the same opportunities tebow had, having an offense especially built for him based on the option concept. guys like tommie frazier and kordell stewart. i mentioned that i would like to see the raiders do something simlar for pryor
3. this is about the raiders because we also have a dynamic mobile qb waiting in the wings. he is aguy i believe can take our stale 1990’s version wco and launch it into the space age, much like rgIII and cam
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Fair enough.
Then save the rhetoric for when we are actually talking about TP. Heck I think you’ll find that a lot of semi’s here agree with you about the kid.
But the constant reminders that come from out of the blue do your cause more harm than good.
September 13th, 2012 at 4:14 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
World’s Ugliest Woman? Klas would do her.
http://shine.yahoo.com/beauty/lessons-worlds-ugliest-woman-stop-staring-start-learning-184400606.html
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Stand in line Klas…She is smokin hot.
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What I mean by that is I want to roll her up and smoke her.
September 13th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
the real cp3 and derron williams are better than Nash sorry. and earlier in their careers took nash awhile to get it dont debate me on stuff like this please for you sake
September 13th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
*your
September 13th, 2012 at 4:17 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 4:05 pm
score board bra, thank for playing
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Uh no guy, I don’t think you take a 12-4 team and go full rebuild mode unless you are a knuckledead. You get rid of the coach. Which they did. And like I posted, Newton only beat the very bottom rung of the league last year at the end. You know why? Not because of his “other worldly” talent, but because he played on a team that went 12-4 before he got there. And they could beat cellar dwellers. And just an FYI, I like Newton. I like him a lot, but again, I don’t think his bust in Canton should be unveiled just yet. But thanks again for proving my point.
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John fox
2008 12-4
2009 8-8
2010 2-14 fired
enter cam newton ron rivera and full rebuild
here is the link http:
//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Fox_%28American_football%29#Carolina_Panthers
NEXT
September 13th, 2012 at 4:17 pm
I just never considered 80 degrees hot.. didnt cross my mind.. but like i said i was smoking a joint
September 13th, 2012 at 4:18 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 4:17 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 4:05 pm
score board bra, thank for playing
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Uh no guy, I don’t think you take a 12-4 team and go full rebuild mode unless you are a knuckledead. You get rid of the coach. Which they did. And like I posted, Newton only beat the very bottom rung of the league last year at the end. You know why? Not because of his “other worldly” talent, but because he played on a team that went 12-4 before he got there. And they could beat cellar dwellers. And just an FYI, I like Newton. I like him a lot, but again, I don’t think his bust in Canton should be unveiled just yet. But thanks again for proving my point.
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John fox
2008 12-4
2009 8-8
2010 2-14 fired
enter cam newton ron rivera and full rebuild
here is the link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Fox_%28American_football%29#Carolina_Panthers
NEXT!!!!!
September 13th, 2012 at 4:18 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
now thats he gone were back to struggling
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How is our O struggling due to the system?
How is it the systems fault that our WRs and TE couldnt catch passes in the endzone in the preseason?
How is it the systems fault that Streater fumbled?
How is it the systems fault that Reece fumbled on a very HueJax-type play?
How is it the systems fault that D17 is hurt and we have no WRs that are playmakers?
How is it the systems fault that Condo got hurt thus killing us in the field position game and spotting them 9 points?
Just answer the questions. No BS rhetoric. I want specific answers.
September 13th, 2012 at 4:19 pm
Raider Riff Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
Remember, I had to watch the seattle game Klas. My gf is a fan.
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That’s right. I’m sorry.
September 13th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
AmysInCharge Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
Miami- 34
Oakland- 6
(from previous post)
The Raiders without doubt will be 0-4 at the bye, and you can bet it wont be Palmer starting the Falcons game,…When the Raiders head to LA you can bet the new majority owners wont keep that big dummy Reggie around. When you look at it the way I do, going 1-15 isnt so bad. I see nothing wrong with supporting the Niners, I am a huge Harbaugh fan and I hope they win it all this year, and I see no reason why they wont, they are easily the best team in the NFL…so join me, support Harbaugh, its real football over there, not what the Raiders are doing, which is laying down. Having lunch today in a cool spot in Placerville, Cosmic Cafe,…take care now
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Man this dud is a Bia bia jumping ships after one loss. If someone know who he is punch him im the face, i would say in the nuts but he probably dont have any.
September 13th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
Marks Hair Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 4:17 pm
I just never considered 80 degrees hot.. didnt cross my mind.. but like i said i was smoking a joint
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80 is cold for me. But you throw in 80%+ humidity and its pretty bad.
I competed in 127 degree temps before and was fine because it was a dry heat. Humidity is a killer.
September 13th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
the real cp3 and derron williams are better than Nash sorry. and earlier in their careers took nash awhile to get it dont debate me on stuff like this please for you sake
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They have how many combined MVPs to Nash’s 2 (arguably 3)?
Case closed.
September 13th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
Fired Knapp yet?
September 13th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
enter cam newton ron rivera and full rebuild
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This year their projected starters: WR Steve Smith, their Oline, RB DeAngelo Williams, FB Mike Tolbert, entire secondary, LB corp and half their defensive line are all holdovers. They traded for Greg Olsen, drafted Lafell, and brought in two Dlinemen. So two receivers, two linemen and a guard? I would NOT call that a full rebuild.
September 13th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
Team is going no where until that happens
September 13th, 2012 at 4:23 pm
Raider Riff Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 4:14 pm
Raider Riff Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 3:57 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
it isnt a black white thing at all
you shouldnt make comments with out having knowledge it makes you out to be a fool. why do i care?
1. RGIII cam and wilson were my 3 favorite qbs in college over the last 2 years. i predicted they would all do well in the nfl, if coaches would allow them to play their game and change the offense. i was right so far. many said they would never make it and if they did they would flop or be career back ups.
2. i did post about tebow last year. i commented that the offense that they ran for tebow was disproving the myths about option offense being ineffective in the nfl. i thanked tebow because even as a severely limited passer he was opening the door for other qbs that were though of as athletes playing qb. i also said that other teams should emulate the broncos and incorporate the spread option in the pros. i wondered out loud what it would have been like in years past if others had the same opportunities tebow had, having an offense especially built for him based on the option concept. guys like tommie frazier and kordell stewart. i mentioned that i would like to see the raiders do something simlar for pryor
3. this is about the raiders because we also have a dynamic mobile qb waiting in the wings. he is aguy i believe can take our stale 1990’s version wco and launch it into the space age, much like rgIII and cam
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Fair enough.
Then save the rhetoric for when we are actually talking about TP. Heck I think you’ll find that a lot of semi’s here agree with you about the kid.
But the constant reminders that come from out of the blue do your cause more harm than good.
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NEWS FLASH this isnt 1555 and i dont need approval from you or permission to discuss qbs, black white or otherwise.
I dont know what you mean by rhetoric, again you are implying something racial and i am talking offensive football strategy, and the changing landscape and thought process in the nfl draft rooms.
you have embarrassed your self, and now would be a good time to go get your gasoline so you wont be late to your cross burning tonight cave man
September 13th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
Re: Ford
I just don’t get it. He ended the season with the injury. Why didn’t he just have surgery then.
September 13th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
TerrapinRaider Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
Team is going no where until that happens
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You act like we were going anywhere in the years previous. Where you been since ‘03? Our problems have been going on with or without Knapp. But go ahead, keep blaming the easy target.
September 13th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
enter cam newton ron rivera and full rebuild
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This year their projected starters: WR Steve Smith, their Oline, RB DeAngelo Williams, FB Mike Tolbert, entire secondary, LB corp and half their defensive line are all holdovers. They traded for Greg Olsen, drafted Lafell, and brought in two Dlinemen. So two receivers, two linemen and a guard? I would NOT call that a full rebuild.
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last year was a full rebuild, new coaches new schemes and new starting qb
do you need to see fox’s record again? fox in his last 2 years finished 8-8 then 2-14. he was fired as a result and the team did a rebuild last year
wow
September 13th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
Hue would have had a fake punt dialed up.
September 13th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
NEWS FLASH this isnt 1555 and i dont need approval from you or permission to discuss qbs, black white or otherwise.
I dont know what you mean by rhetoric, again you are implying something racial and i am talking offensive football strategy, and the changing landscape and thought process in the nfl draft rooms.
you have embarrassed your self, and now would be a good time to go get your gasoline so you wont be late to your cross burning tonight cave man
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I like messing with you. See, its not fun when the troll gets trolled is it?
And yeah, you do need my permission to speak. I give you permission to reply to this post, because Im having so much fun pissing you off.
September 13th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
Hahahahaha…. you fed him and fed him then BAM!! cross burning caveman..lol
September 13th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
I hope we build an offense for pryor because this offense we are watching now is simply a dog with fleas that will not hunt
September 13th, 2012 at 4:28 pm
Raider Riff Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
TerrapinRaider Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
Team is going no where until that happens
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You act like we were going anywhere in the years previous. Where you been since ‘03? Our problems have been going on with or without Knapp. But go ahead, keep blaming the easy target.
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Does this mean you’re OK with Knapp??
September 13th, 2012 at 4:28 pm
Hue wasnt perfect but he would scraped the punt team..
September 13th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
Raider Riff Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
NEWS FLASH this isnt 1555 and i dont need approval from you or permission to discuss qbs, black white or otherwise.
I dont know what you mean by rhetoric, again you are implying something racial and i am talking offensive football strategy, and the changing landscape and thought process in the nfl draft rooms.
you have embarrassed your self, and now would be a good time to go get your gasoline so you wont be late to your cross burning tonight cave man
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I like messing with you. See, its not fun when the troll gets trolled is it?
And yeah, you do need my permission to speak. I give you permission to reply to this post, because Im having so much fun pissing you off.
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actually i find that exposing your cavernous lack of football knowledge quite comical
September 13th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
Riff,
In regard to my comments on DA’s presser i wasn’t saying he should be like Ditka or Rex Ryan. The problem I had was his over the top praise of SD.
What point is it to say “I just wanna say we have enormous respect for the Chargers organization”. What’s the point? He could just as easily say “SD has a good ball club and we just got beat tonight”. Or something similar. Then the talk of “Philip” this and “Philip” that..?
I can appreciate DA’s being even keeled and all that and not calling guys out but “enormous respect for the Chargers organization”?
I’m perplexed as to what is behind that cuz he made a special point of emphasis on that.
September 13th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
Raider Riff Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 4:18 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
now thats he gone were back to struggling
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How is our O struggling due to the system? because we dominated SD offensively both games with Hue at the helm without Dmac
How is it the systems fault that our WRs and TE couldnt catch passes in the endzone in the preseason? are we talkn bout practice?
How is it the systems fault that Streater fumbled? legit
How is it the systems fault that Reece fumbled on a very HueJax-type play? legit
How is it the systems fault that D17 is hurt and we have no WRs that are playmakers? Hue did and without the biggest playmaker in Dmac
How is it the systems fault that Condo got hurt thus killing us in the field position game and spotting them 9 points? legit
Just answer the questions. No BS rhetoric. I want specific answers.
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bottom line is Hue accoplished more with less in his two seasons running this O and did it for the mosy part without Dmac No offseason really as a rookie head coach and still had us on the brink of playoffs and with bres in the way the entire time. I’m gonna give knapp a few more weeks but so far all I saw was stink and stunk offense.
September 13th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
last year was a full rebuild, new coaches new schemes and new starting qb
do you need to see fox’s record again? fox in his last 2 years finished 8-8 then 2-14. he was fired as a result and the team did a rebuild last year
wow
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They are running the same even defense that Fox ran. Sure they brought in new coaches, new systems and a new Q, but basically Cam Newton inherited a good team. Not like Sam Bradford or the one Carson Palmer inherited ten years ago. In fact it is hard to find teams that bad for that long.
September 13th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
TerrapinRaider Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 4:28 pm
Raider Riff Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
TerrapinRaider Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
Team is going no where until that happens
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You act like we were going anywhere in the years previous. Where you been since ‘03? Our problems have been going on with or without Knapp. But go ahead, keep blaming the easy target.
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Does this mean you’re OK with Knapp??
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Was I ok with the hiring? No.
Did I think we needed to change passing and running schemes? No.
Has he done a good job? Yes.
He’s made good calls. This offense may not play to Palmers strengths but it didnt turn him into a dog either. He put a 95 passer rating, enough said.
What Im not ok with is dumb fumbles and dropped passes and offsides penalties on 3rd and short and their not being a contingency plan for if our long snapper goes down.
September 13th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
I love this nfl its serious fun guy.. great suit
September 13th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
Mystic,
Just own up to it.
Why would you..on a Raiders blog take the time to write multiple posts about the Viking QB situation.
You went on this comparative analysis of Joe Webb vs. Christian Ponder. WHY??? and why the hell would we care?
Just be honest as to why you’re doing that.
September 13th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
Knapp may or may not be a problem…
But the dude can’t be blamed for the fumble on a first down. The special teams 3 catastrophic plays. The Kelly 3rd-down double-up, the dropped passes again and again.
Out the gate our Offense was rolling until Streater fumbled.
In the second half we were playing from behind and took a lot of plays out of offense. At that point the dolts D was pinning its ears back and zeroing in on Palmer.
I’m not saying Knapp is not a suspect…but that game was not on him
September 13th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
Raider Riff Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 4:18 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
now thats he gone were back to struggling
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How is our O struggling due to the system? because we dominated SD offensively both games with Hue at the helm without Dmac
How is it the systems fault that our WRs and TE couldnt catch passes in the endzone in the preseason? are we talkn bout practice?
How is it the systems fault that Streater fumbled? legit
How is it the systems fault that Reece fumbled on a very HueJax-type play? legit
How is it the systems fault that D17 is hurt and we have no WRs that are playmakers? Hue did and without the biggest playmaker in Dmac
How is it the systems fault that Condo got hurt thus killing us in the field position game and spotting them 9 points? legit
Just answer the questions. No BS rhetoric. I want specific answers.
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bottom line is Hue accoplished more with less in his two seasons running this O and did it for the mosy part without Dmac No offseason really as a rookie head coach and still had us on the brink of playoffs and with bres in the way the entire time. I’m gonna give knapp a few more weeks but so far all I saw was stink and stunk offense.
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Why wont you answer the questions?
September 13th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
Raidertalk Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
Knapp may or may not be a problem…
But the dude can’t be blamed for the fumble on a first down. The special teams 3 catastrophic plays. The Kelly 3rd-down double-up, the dropped passes again and again.
Out the gate our Offense was rolling until Streater fumbled.
In the second half we were playing from behind and took a lot of plays out of offense. At that point the dolts D was pinning its ears back and zeroing in on Palmer.
I’m not saying Knapp is not a suspect…but that game was not on him
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This is what Ive been saying the past 6 hours.
September 13th, 2012 at 4:38 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
Raider Riff Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
NEWS FLASH this isnt 1555 and i dont need approval from you or permission to discuss qbs, black white or otherwise.
I dont know what you mean by rhetoric, again you are implying something racial and i am talking offensive football strategy, and the changing landscape and thought process in the nfl draft rooms.
you have embarrassed your self, and now would be a good time to go get your gasoline so you wont be late to your cross burning tonight cave man
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I like messing with you. See, its not fun when the troll gets trolled is it?
And yeah, you do need my permission to speak. I give you permission to reply to this post, because Im having so much fun pissing you off.
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actually i find that exposing your cavernous lack of football knowledge quite comical
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I give you permission to continue with more non-Raider related rhetoric.
I also give you permission to go look up the definition of “rhetoric” and the contexts for which it is used.
September 13th, 2012 at 4:38 pm
This is quite simple. Reggie f’kd up. Ego or whatever. He fk’d up. This was a ‘easy’ fix so to say. Keep Hue Jax, keep the high powered offense in place and fix the defense – then we would be golden. Playoffs starring at us. And with this defense playing like it played vs SD, it the definitely solution.
Now I’m not naive to not assume that DA is not part of that fix on defense. Therefore, I give Reggie the credit he deserves for that hire.
If he really wanted to bring in his guy, then OK, lose Hue Jax (which I think was the wrong move); and promote Al Saunders to full OC duties. That way you still keep the O intact and you can still fix the D as you have.
But those numbnuts hired Gregg ‘dink-n-dunk’ Knapp. WCO is all its glory with ZBS to boot. We would take on a whole revamping of the entire offense (the best part of our season last year, an offense that was once in the top 10 of the league) to something that does not fit the skill set of the players in place NOR THE INTEREST OF THE FANS!!! Raiders do not like this kind of football. Never have. Never will. The sooner that realize this the better.
September 13th, 2012 at 4:38 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
last year was a full rebuild, new coaches new schemes and new starting qb
do you need to see fox’s record again? fox in his last 2 years finished 8-8 then 2-14. he was fired as a result and the team did a rebuild last year
wow
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They are running the same even defense that Fox ran. Sure they brought in new coaches, new systems and a new Q, but basically Cam Newton inherited a good team.
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a hard head makes a soft ass….
2009 8-8
2010 -214
how is this inheriting a good team? I have never heard of a “good” 2-14 team.
im afraid history and reality simply do not agree with you.
laughable
September 13th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
Riff,
In regard to my comments on DA’s presser i wasn’t saying he should be like Ditka or Rex Ryan. The problem I had was his over the top praise of SD.
What point is it to say “I just wanna say we have enormous respect for the Chargers organization”. What’s the point? He could just as easily say “SD has a good ball club and we just got beat tonight”. Or something similar. Then the talk of “Philip” this and “Philip” that..?
I can appreciate DA’s being even keeled and all that and not calling guys out but “enormous respect for the Chargers organization”?
I’m perplexed as to what is behind that cuz he made a special point of emphasis on that.
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Fair enough.
September 13th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Raider Riff Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
the real cp3 and derron williams are better than Nash sorry. and earlier in their careers took nash awhile to get it dont debate me on stuff like this please for you sake
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They have how many combined MVPs to Nash’s 2 (arguably 3)?
Case closed.
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Debate is who is the better more athletic player not who won MVP’S which Nash didn’t deserve imo and nash would get killed by CP3 or Derron Williams you know that and if you dont your just another casual fan pretending that you know about sports.
September 13th, 2012 at 4:40 pm
I said 2 weeks ago Ford was going on IR. I think this team needs to seriously consider Burress. He won’t move us up and down the field, but he WILL be the red zone receiving threat this team desperately needs. None of our current receivers or TEs is competent in this skill.
September 13th, 2012 at 4:40 pm
I’ve heard the defintion of “troll” as someone who is INTENTIONALLY making statements or ascertations with the purpose of “INCITING”.
September 13th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
TerrapinRaider Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 4:38 pm
This is quite simple. Reggie f’kd up. Ego or whatever. He fk’d up. This was a ‘easy’ fix so to say. Keep Hue Jax, keep the high powered offense in place and fix the defense – then we would be golden. Playoffs starring at us. And with this defense playing like it played vs SD, it the definitely solution.
Now I’m not naive to not assume that DA is not part of that fix on defense. Therefore, I give Reggie the credit he deserves for that hire.
If he really wanted to bring in his guy, then OK, lose Hue Jax (which I think was the wrong move); and promote Al Saunders to full OC duties. That way you still keep the O intact and you can still fix the D as you have.
But those numbnuts hired Gregg ‘dink-n-dunk’ Knapp. WCO is all its glory with ZBS to boot. We would take on a whole revamping of the entire offense (the best part of our season last year, an offense that was once in the top 10 of the league) to something that does not fit the skill set of the players in place NOR THE INTEREST OF THE FANS!!! Raiders do not like this kind of football. Never have. Never will. The sooner that realize this the better.
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Mark Davis demanded that Reggie bring in his own guy. So, nice try, but come again.
September 13th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
On the upside the D looked much improved…
I’cant recall a time since about ten years or so, when our Defense had to defend HORRIBLE field position , thru blocked punts etc., and STOPPED the opposing team to just field goals like that…
Recently those possessions would have mostly been touchdowns by the opposing team
September 13th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
Knapp called a somewhat decent game, play to DMAC’s strengths and go for the Marker on 3rd downs, not 1 yard dinks! He fixes this soon, he may call some winners.
September 13th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
I would have liked to see reece used more on screens away from dmac. Sd was playing very agressive. Or even another pa roll out or 2..
September 13th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
A white players problem isnt typically his athletic ability.
The biggest thing holding white players back is that they usually dont have the fortitude to endure the rigors of professional sports.
There is a lot more on the line for the black athlete. They put in the effort as if their lives depend on it, because to some degree, its true. Sports are one of the only “ways out” that society provide so they play with that motivating them.
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so then do you not see too many latinos in the nfl or nba because of height/weight? They’re as hungry as any any colored athlete just look at lower weights in boxing and baseball.
September 13th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
I would have no issues with Knapp leaving for Saunders at OC, but if he wins big this weekend, I could watch more of his play-calling.imo
September 13th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
You guys look too much into the coaches daily interviews. Who cares what he said about the Chargers. He will NEVER hate the Chargers like we do. He will NEVER have a 30+ year hatred of a division rival… get over it. DA is never going to say something unprofessional in an interview, and never gonna say something that could be bulletin board fodder for them later in the year
September 13th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
kobe should have won both mvps nash got plus dirks
September 13th, 2012 at 4:44 pm
Raider Riff Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
Raider Riff Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 4:18 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
now thats he gone were back to struggling
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How is our O struggling due to the system? because we dominated SD offensively both games with Hue at the helm without Dmac
How is it the systems fault that our WRs and TE couldnt catch passes in the endzone in the preseason? are we talkn bout practice?
How is it the systems fault that Streater fumbled? legit
How is it the systems fault that Reece fumbled on a very HueJax-type play? legit
How is it the systems fault that D17 is hurt and we have no WRs that are playmakers? Hue did and without the biggest playmaker in Dmac
How is it the systems fault that Condo got hurt thus killing us in the field position game and spotting them 9 points? legit
Just answer the questions. No BS rhetoric. I want specific answers.
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bottom line is Hue accoplished more with less in his two seasons running this O and did it for the mosy part without Dmac No offseason really as a rookie head coach and still had us on the brink of playoffs and with bres in the way the entire time. I’m gonna give knapp a few more weeks but so far all I saw was stink and stunk offense.
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Why wont you answer the questions?
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I did
September 13th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Raider Riff Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
the real cp3 and derron williams are better than Nash sorry. and earlier in their careers took nash awhile to get it dont debate me on stuff like this please for you sake
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They have how many combined MVPs to Nash’s 2 (arguably 3)?
Case closed.
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Debate is who is the better more athletic player not who won MVP’S which Nash didn’t deserve imo and nash would get killed by CP3 or Derron Williams you know that and if you dont your just another casual fan pretending that you know about sports.
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You didnt catch the debate. Someone was saying that PG’s have to be athletic. I listed the two best ones and they are far from athletically superior by any definition.
The fact that you think Nash didnt deserve his MVPs says it all. CP3 and Derron havent accomplished half of what Nash has in his career. Ignore that all you want.
You can have the last word, I really dont care. Im not here to debate BBall.
And no, Im not a casual fan. I used to go on recruiting trips and evaluate players. Let me know when you got paid to do that and then we’ll talk.
September 13th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
No way Reggie should have kept the Hue Jack. Neither he nor Mark Davis felt comfortable with the guy. If Hue so great, how come he have no Offensive Coordinator job?
September 13th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
Inonewordraider Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
A white players problem isnt typically his athletic ability.
The biggest thing holding white players back is that they usually dont have the fortitude to endure the rigors of professional sports.
There is a lot more on the line for the black athlete. They put in the effort as if their lives depend on it, because to some degree, its true. Sports are one of the only “ways out” that society provide so they play with that motivating them.
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so then do you not see too many latinos in the nfl or nba because of height/weight? They’re as hungry as any any colored athlete just look at lower weights in boxing and baseball.
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That is a good theory.
What I was posting I may agree with, but I wasnt shooting from the hip. Lots of reading and sports psychology. The subject of latino’s in sports is not as prevalent. So I cant say with the same amount of certainty why we dont see as many in the NBA or NFL.
September 13th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
In my always dead on opinion, Big Dummy hastily canned Hue,…Hue should have been given another year,..but noooooo, Big Dummy had to make a statement,…what he in fact did was crush a really thriving offense that with a healthy DMC in 2012 would have only improved…so now Big Dummy has set the Raiders back years,…hiring an OC that is a complete failure,..we all know Houstons O was ran by Kubiak,…Big Dummy should be fired now, but he wont,…because Mark is too wrapped up in finalizing details on the LA move, which is for sure a done deal…but once he gets to LA Big Dummy is gone,..Mark likely will bring in Holmgren and Gruden,..which is of course a grand slam!!!!…anyway kiddies, in the meantime, enjoy our old friend Harbaugh take the Niners to New Orleans and crush Tom Brady!!!
September 13th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
Good evening all Nation and Green Party!
Klas, Texas getting rain big show style, feels like getting shot with pellets on a motor-bike.
September 13th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
how is this inheriting a good team? I have never heard of a “good” 2-14 team.
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If a team is 10-6, 10-6, and then 2-14 they are most likely not a bad team. Most likely they had a bad year. Carolina was 12-4, 8-8, 2-14 and got the overall number one. They still had most of the players from that 12-4 team. And they have continued to keep those same players. So either two very successful NFL administrations agree with me, or maybe you should quit your day job and come into the league and earn some money.
September 13th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
Raider Riff Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
Was I ok with the hiring? No.
Did I think we needed to change passing and running schemes? No.
Has he done a good job? Yes.
He’s made good calls. This offense may not play to Palmers strengths but it didnt turn him into a dog either. He put a 95 passer rating, enough said.
What Im not ok with is dumb fumbles and dropped passes and offsides penalties on 3rd and short and their not being a contingency plan for if our long snapper goes down.
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OK, fair enough. Except, I would completely disagree wih the notion that Knapp has done a good job. It was brutal watching that offense vs SD. DMC only averaged 2+ypc. Thats atrocious for a player of his caliber. And they kept at it regardless of the sitution! That is all I need to see to know what Knapp would be all about given full reign over the O. The only way he changes is if someone forces him to. And even then it won’t be enough to win or satisfy the Raiders loyal fans. Just as it was not enough his last stint here when he certainly faced pressure from Cable and Al. It was not enough then and it wont be enough now. It was a terrible hire.
September 13th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
why cant Riff admit that Huejax had us on the doorstep of playoffs witout a full offseason,JC going down,Dmac going down,Dmoore going down,Ford going down, getting Carson off the couch, and a chuck Bresnahan run Def. despite all that Hue had us 15 mins away from hosting Pitt. but I guess all that means nothing to you casual fans.
September 13th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
I will take this team over Hue’s 100%. I will take the disciplined team that had 6 penalties for 35 yards and only gave up 235 yards of total offense. Im not a fan of Knapps offense, but they are going to improve. Dmac is not going to be held to 35 yards rushing every week. Listen, we saw exactly what Hue Jacksons top 10 offense was capable of 2 years in a row, and it could NOT overcome a bottom 3 defense and all the penalties. I think this team is capable of MUCH more with the discipline and improved defense than vice versa.
September 13th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
Hopefully the game in Miami gives us a chance to really look at this offense without all of other mistakes shooting us in the foot, then I can evaluate Knapp a little more.
Not saying my fellow Raids fan jump the gun, but I do remember people booing that Quarterback, and yelling for the rookie J-something to come…
September 13th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 4:44 pm
Raider Riff Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
Raider Riff Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 4:18 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
now thats he gone were back to struggling
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How is our O struggling due to the system? because we dominated SD offensively both games with Hue at the helm without Dmac (we also had a WR that made plays in D17)
How is it the systems fault that our WRs and TE couldnt catch passes in the endzone in the preseason? are we talkn bout practice? (you were when saying Knapps offense isnt delivering)
How is it the systems fault that Streater fumbled? legit
How is it the systems fault that Reece fumbled on a very HueJax-type play? legit
How is it the systems fault that D17 is hurt and we have no WRs that are playmakers? Hue did and without the biggest playmaker in Dmac (and so did Knapp on Monday Nite. He put us in positions to score, the WRs did not deliver)
How is it the systems fault that Condo got hurt thus killing us in the field position game and spotting them 9 points? legit
Just answer the questions. No BS rhetoric. I want specific answers.
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bottom line is Hue accoplished more with less in his two seasons running this O and did it for the mosy part without Dmac No offseason really as a rookie head coach and still had us on the brink of playoffs and with bres in the way the entire time. I’m gonna give knapp a few more weeks but so far all I saw was stink and stunk offense.
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Why wont you answer the questions?
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I did
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Oops. Sorry, I missed it.
See my answers in parenthesis.
There are a lot of things you find “legit”. Therefore, lets ease off on the Knapp hate. He isnt the biggest problem and I think you know that.
September 13th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
Reggie said NO interest in Plax, TO or Chad.
September 13th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
breaking news Ford could be out for season. didn’t see that comin. come on Jer give us something to sink our fangs into.
September 13th, 2012 at 4:54 pm
TxRaider210 Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
Reggie said NO interest in Plax, TO or Chad.
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Ford wasn’t injured on his way to IR when he said that.
September 13th, 2012 at 4:54 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
why cant Riff admit that Huejax had us on the doorstep of playoffs witout a full offseason,JC going down,Dmac going down,Dmoore going down,Ford going down, getting Carson off the couch, and a chuck Bresnahan run Def. despite all that Hue had us 15 mins away from hosting Pitt. but I guess all that means nothing to you casual fans.
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You mustve missed my earlier posts.
I wasnt in favor of getting rid of Hue. But Hue did that to himself. And it has nothing to do with Knapp. That is the connection you guys are making that makes no sense.
Hue got himself fired. Knapp didnt push him out.
September 13th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
raidertalk Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
Knapp may or may not be a problem…
But the dude can’t be blamed for the fumble on a first down. The special teams 3 catastrophic plays. The Kelly 3rd-down double-up, the dropped passes again and again.
Out the gate our Offense was rolling until Streater fumbled.
In the second half we were playing from behind and took a lot of plays out of offense. At that point the dolts D was pinning its ears back and zeroing in on Palmer.
I’m not saying Knapp is not a suspect…but that game was not on him
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I disagree Raidertalk. I believe it was primarily on Knapp, overwhelmingly on Knapp and if you want to move up the food chain you look at DA then Reggie. But it is Knapp in my book (80% Knapp). What lots of ppl miss is that this is an ultimate team sport. If one area is not doing its job it cause issues all over. If Knapp’s offense could push the ball down field, Condo and STs would not be in the same situation having to punt in our territory. Maybe he would not have gotten injured. So on and so forth. We were punting too damn much from our endzone and our defense was on the field too damn much which could have resulted in an injury there. Luckily it did not. Its all connected. Right now, Knapp is at the center of it for me.
September 13th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
That was just tweeted by Tafur, I think Reg said it again.
September 13th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
Condo got hurt on our FIRST punt.
September 13th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
TerrapinRaider Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
Raider Riff Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
Was I ok with the hiring? No.
Did I think we needed to change passing and running schemes? No.
Has he done a good job? Yes.
He’s made good calls. This offense may not play to Palmers strengths but it didnt turn him into a dog either. He put a 95 passer rating, enough said.
What Im not ok with is dumb fumbles and dropped passes and offsides penalties on 3rd and short and their not being a contingency plan for if our long snapper goes down.
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OK, fair enough. Except, I would completely disagree wih the notion that Knapp has done a good job. It was brutal watching that offense vs SD. DMC only averaged 2+ypc. Thats atrocious for a player of his caliber. And they kept at it regardless of the sitution! That is all I need to see to know what Knapp would be all about given full reign over the O. The only way he changes is if someone forces him to. And even then it won’t be enough to win or satisfy the Raiders loyal fans. Just as it was not enough his last stint here when he certainly faced pressure from Cable and Al. It was not enough then and it wont be enough now. It was a terrible hire.\
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But you dont see how your opinion, like most of the Knapp haters, looks like you have a biased agenda?
Hoffman has sucked all preseason and then we go into the first game with no backup plan for the long snapper, yet you barely hear half the hate of him that you do Knapp.
If we have a backup plan for the long snapper, then we probably win despite the dropped passes, fumbles, and stupid offsides.
You guys should be calling for the firing of Hoffman and bringing back Fassel. That is actually do-able I think. And it is currently the REAL problem.
September 13th, 2012 at 5:02 pm
Another thing ignored by the blind Knapp hatred, SD and Phillip dominate TOP. They held the ball for 9 minutes straight after TJones 25 yard fumble gaffe (not a bad call by Knapp, if that exchange is made Jones gets a good deal of positive yards, maybe scores with his speed, SD totally bit). We got the ball back, and again drove right down the field, and got jobbed by the refs and had to kick a FG from the 1.5 yard line instead of having 1st down and a chance to punch it in from the 1. Second half we went for our 2nd punt and thats when the nightmare started, and we couldn’t dig out from there.
September 13th, 2012 at 5:02 pm
This team began under a bad sign and I predict they will go 1/15.
It’s just a feeling I had watching Knapp sweat and grind while his offense blew up.
September 13th, 2012 at 5:02 pm
Raider Riff Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Raider Riff Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
the real cp3 and derron williams are better than Nash sorry. and earlier in their careers took nash awhile to get it dont debate me on stuff like this please for you sake
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They have how many combined MVPs to Nash’s 2 (arguably 3)?
Case closed.
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Debate is who is the better more athletic player not who won MVP’S which Nash didn’t deserve imo and nash would get killed by CP3 or Derron Williams you know that and if you dont your just another casual fan pretending that you know about sports.
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You didnt catch the debate. Someone was saying that PG’s have to be athletic. I listed the two best ones and they are far from athletically superior by any definition.
The fact that you think Nash didnt deserve his MVPs says it all. CP3 and Derron havent accomplished half of what Nash has in his career. Ignore that all you want.
You can have the last word, I really dont care. Im not here to debate BBall.
And no, Im not a casual fan. I used to go on recruiting trips and evaluate players. Let me know when you got paid to do that and then we’ll talk.
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BTW Kidd is black and it took Nash a few years to get to the level he got(remember his first stint in PHX) plus he had a young healthy amare to dump it to while CP3 and Derron came into the league on fire. and the reason he didnt deserve MVP’S is Shaq and Lebron had better seasons. you sound like a casual fan to me as you dismiss Nashes early years when most were calling him a bust. and to think somebody let YOU evaluate talent lol for who? some bum ass college that nobody heard of c’mon Riff.
September 13th, 2012 at 5:02 pm
Keeping Hue was never an option. How many new GM’s keep the previous HC? Doesn’t happen folks. Plus Reggie said he wanted to bring in “his guy.”
I was one last year that wanted HueJax to get one more year, especially with Dmac coming back.
It’s a mute point and when we win on Sunday, we are 1-1 and everything will be ok….
September 13th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
OK that did it. I am sick and tired of Hue did this and Hue did that and I wish Hue this and Hue that.
Hue would never have done as well as he did if it was not for
TOM CABLE.
Pimp hand straightened out the horrible Oline. Tom salvaged gaterarm somewhat. We were bad for years but Tom performed his magic.
Hue would have failed bigtime if not for Tom cleaning all the barnavles off the hull and setting new sails.
Tom pimp hand Cable > Hue the pimp Jackson
September 13th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
No one has a back up plan in game for the long snapper. Did you guys see what happened this week in the NFL? How many teams looked for back up long snappers, because NO ONE had a contingency plan for that type of situation. The long snapper is on the field for 6-8 plays a game, very little chance of injury. Condo hasn’t missed a snap since he got into the league
September 13th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
I thought Fassel went to the Rams?
September 13th, 2012 at 5:06 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
how is this inheriting a good team? I have never heard of a “good” 2-14 team.
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If a team is 10-6, 10-6, and then 2-14 they are most likely not a bad team. Most likely they had a bad year. Carolina was 12-4, 8-8, 2-14 and got the overall number one. They still had most of the players from that 12-4 team. And they have continued to keep those same players. So either two very successful NFL administrations agree with me, or maybe you should quit your day job and come into the league and earn some money.
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you should give it a rest
they clearly were trending i the wrong direction 8-8 2-14 the next
no one in their right mind will accept your argument that a 2-14 team is any where near good.
we know that the nfl does not view things the way you do, which is why fox was fired and the team turned over.
2-14 = bad team
smh
September 13th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
condo plays ST coverage too, concussion risk.imo
September 13th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
10-6 Baby Yeauh!
September 13th, 2012 at 5:08 pm
Hue Jack City is gone guys…some hate him, some love him…his big mouth got him in trouble after Jan 1st! And Reggie wanted his guy as previously stated. Yes, he got us on the brink of hosting Pitt, but that was also because KC beat Denver (7-0). But even then, we never had the chance especially since Rivers kept marching down the field!
September 13th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
Bcz24 Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
No one has a back up plan in game for the long snapper. Did you guys see what happened this week in the NFL? How many teams looked for back up long snappers, because NO ONE had a contingency plan for that type of situation. The long snapper is on the field for 6-8 plays a game, very little chance of injury. Condo hasn’t missed a snap since he got into the league
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We used to have a backup plan, it was Zack Miller.
We should have had a backup plan. It was stupid not to. And by far the biggest coaching blunder of the game.
September 13th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
Raider Riff Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 4:54 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
why cant Riff admit that Huejax had us on the doorstep of playoffs witout a full offseason,JC going down,Dmac going down,Dmoore going down,Ford going down, getting Carson off the couch, and a chuck Bresnahan run Def. despite all that Hue had us 15 mins away from hosting Pitt. but I guess all that means nothing to you casual fans.
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You mustve missed my earlier posts.
I wasnt in favor of getting rid of Hue. But Hue did that to himself. And it has nothing to do with Knapp. That is the connection you guys are making that makes no sense.
Hue got himself fired. Knapp didnt push him out.
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if hue doesnt get fired knapp isnt hired thats how it relates simple.
September 13th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
I am a bear fan tonight. Cutler/Bush
Funny how FF makes watching football a completely different experiance.
I have hated the crackboys and every thing about but get Romo on my team and I am rooting for him but for the boys to lose
FF has been like a golden egg laying goose for the NFLbrand. Lots of free advertising
September 13th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
Hopefully we don’t take a Knapp again Sunday.
September 13th, 2012 at 5:11 pm
Hawaiian, I think he’s coaching the team here in Vegas!
UFL LOKOS!
September 13th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
Bcz24 Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 5:02 pm
Another thing ignored by the blind Knapp hatred, SD and Phillip dominate TOP. They held the ball for 9 minutes straight after TJones 25 yard fumble gaffe (not a bad call by Knapp, if that exchange is made Jones gets a good deal of positive yards, maybe scores with his speed, SD totally bit). We got the ball back, and again drove right down the field, and got jobbed by the refs and had to kick a FG from the 1.5 yard line instead of having 1st down and a chance to punch it in from the 1. Second half we went for our 2nd punt and thats when the nightmare started, and we couldn’t dig out from there.
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This is too rational for the Knapp haters.
Im going to call it a nite. Its 2am here.
Oh and Mistic, you have my permission to continue posting about your favorite teams, Carolina and the Redskins.
September 13th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
Ok, EastOakland…Hue got power hungry after Al passed. Do you think that him and Reggie would have gotten along? It may have been Al/Lance again…that was embarrassing!
September 13th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
And it begins
September 13th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
R8eray Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 5:11 pm
Hawaiian, I think he’s coaching the team here in Vegas!
UFL LOKOS!
Fassel? Seriously?
September 13th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
they clearly were trending i the wrong direction 8-8 2-14 the next
no one in their right mind will accept your argument that a 2-14 team is any where near good.
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Then why did two administrations keep 90% of that team? Tell me.
September 13th, 2012 at 5:15 pm
Plunketthead Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
OK that did it. I am sick and tired of Hue did this and Hue did that and I wish Hue this and Hue that.
Hue would never have done as well as he did if it was not for
TOM CABLE.
Pimp hand straightened out the horrible Oline. Tom salvaged gaterarm somewhat. We were bad for years but Tom performed his magic.
Hue would have failed bigtime if not for Tom cleaning all the barnavles off the hull and setting new sails.
Tom pimp hand Cable < Hue the pimp Jackson
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Tom did a good job with the line I will admit that but when Hue took over he scraped the ZBS and went to a power game and what do ya know Dmac was on his way to a career season. did you forget that Plunk.
September 13th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
Raider Riff Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 4:54 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
why cant Riff admit that Huejax had us on the doorstep of playoffs witout a full offseason,JC going down,Dmac going down,Dmoore going down,Ford going down, getting Carson off the couch, and a chuck Bresnahan run Def. despite all that Hue had us 15 mins away from hosting Pitt. but I guess all that means nothing to you casual fans.
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You mustve missed my earlier posts.
I wasnt in favor of getting rid of Hue. But Hue did that to himself. And it has nothing to do with Knapp. That is the connection you guys are making that makes no sense.
Hue got himself fired. Knapp didnt push him out.
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if hue doesnt get fired knapp isnt hired thats how it relates simple.
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Correction…
If Hue doesnt get HIMSELF fired, then Knapp doesnt get hired.
Or better yet, why should you or anyone else blame Knapp for Hue getting fired? Especially when Knapp has done a fine job.
You guys were complaining after the preseason game where we put up 500 yards of offense. Nothing Knapp does will make you happy.
There were idiots who boo’d Gannon back in the day also so I shouldnt be surprised.
Carry on.
September 13th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
Not going to waste my time arguing about the back up long snapper. It sucks, it cost us a game, but I am not going to hold our coaching staff to any less because of it. If anything, I will say they shouldn’t have kept trying to punt. After the first botched snap they should have lined Lechler up at QB on 4th down, had Parsons shotgun snap it to him, and had him pooch punting. Hind sight is always 20/20 though, I think too much emphasis is being placed on something that happens to a football team about as frequently as lightning striking the goal post during a game.
September 13th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
Tom did a good job with the line I will admit that but when Hue took over he scraped the ZBS and went to a power game and what do ya know Dmac was on his way to a career season. did you forget that Plunk.
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Dmacs CAREER best year was under Cables ZBS.
September 13th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
Bcz24 Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
Not going to waste my time arguing about the back up long snapper. It sucks, it cost us a game, but I am not going to hold our coaching staff to any less because of it. If anything, I will say they shouldn’t have kept trying to punt. After the first botched snap they should have lined Lechler up at QB on 4th down, had Parsons shotgun snap it to him, and had him pooch punting. Hind sight is always 20/20 though, I think too much emphasis is being placed on something that happens to a football team about as frequently as lightning striking the goal post during a game.
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Agreed 100%. After the first one I knew the rest would be bad.
September 13th, 2012 at 5:20 pm
What up Nation!?!
One thing that I noticed and wasn’t too fond of was; wr’s running routes 2-3yds short of the first down marker, on 3rd down.
No mas porfavor!
Gracias
September 13th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
Hwnrdr Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
Ok, EastOakland…Hue got power hungry after Al passed. Do you think that him and Reggie would have gotten along? It may have been Al/Lance again…that was embarrassing!
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Yes I believe it would have worked because Hue would had to fall in line and just coach the team but he was never given the opportunity just because he didnt get the Gm job doesnt mean he would have cried about it and let it affect his performance as coach but now its KNAPPTIME so REGGIE and all HUE haters are getting what they asked for.
September 13th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
hwnrdr Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
Ok, EastOakland…Hue got power hungry after Al passed. Do you think that him and Reggie would have gotten along? It may have been Al/Lance again…that was embarrassing!
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bingo, he also screwed up with the palmer trade and throwing the team and coaches under the bus after loosing. he showed a duplicitous nature and couldnt be trusted to go along with the program
hu jack played his self right out of a job
too bad no question that he knows offense and can x & o with the best of them
He dmac jc and dhb really had something sweet going and delivered the best football we have seen since our sb run
September 13th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
Not having a Back Up to the Long Snapper Position was THE Mistake of the night… the fact that we previously HAD a back up at that position says it isn’t so rare to have someone available with a little practice. But i agree, that we should have ditched the punting and gone for it on 4th down.
DA just may be in over is head here…
getting this roster in line may not be the job for a 1st time HC.
September 13th, 2012 at 5:25 pm
Bcz24 Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
Tom did a good job with the line I will admit that but when Hue took over he scraped the ZBS and went to a power game and what do ya know Dmac was on his way to a career season. did you forget that Plunk.
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Dmacs CAREER best year was under Cables ZBS.
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C’mon another casual fan I see. if Dmac stays healthy last year he would have been close to 2000 yards rushing.
September 13th, 2012 at 5:25 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
they clearly were trending i the wrong direction 8-8 2-14 the next
no one in their right mind will accept your argument that a 2-14 team is any where near good.
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Then why did two administrations keep 90% of that team? Tell me.
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please stop trying to sell me on the notion that a team that is 8-8 then 2-14 the following year is a good team.
please tell me where you get 90% from
September 13th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
The 3 botched POunts and the two fumbles equals 5 turnovers…Not the kind of disciplined game we’ve been promised. Especailly all the lip service about DA’s Great ‘Game Management’ skills, he looked a little bug eyed at times…
September 13th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
I miss Bob Wylie and his stories about magic tricks.
September 13th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
I never said I hated Hue. If he would have done what you said, that would have been awesome to watch no doubt. But, it is what it is! And I never said Knapp needed to be fired right now, just that he needs to learn how to use his weapons because I don’t think he had that much fire power before! But, if Cable can take away Knapp’s play calling…??? I liked the idea of having Saunders be more involved!
September 13th, 2012 at 5:30 pm
C’mon another casual fan I see. if Dmac stays healthy last year he would have been close to 2000 yards rushing.
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If my aunt had nuts she’d be my uncle…
September 13th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
I dunno what is going on with DMAC running best when he runs the plays or way he wants.
This is not pop warner. Dmac needs to be able to run hard and DA?Knap?Reg must believe he can of they would not have set him up for failure.
I dont buy the Hue asked me what I wanted and I dont run well unless its in the system I like
Nonsense if you ask me
September 13th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
please tell me where you get 90% from
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From the roster. You are claiming that Rivera went in and blew the roster up. I told you two years before Newton got there they were a 12-4 team. The roster today is packed with the same players as that 12-4 team. They only added a WR, traded for Greg Olsen, and a couple of linemen. The secondary is the same. Newton inherited a good team. Sam Bradford did not. Cleveland has been bad for years. Those are bad teams. Either Carolina had a bad year, or more likely they just got tired of John Fox.
September 13th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
Raider Riff Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
Raider Riff Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 4:54 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
why cant Riff admit that Huejax had us on the doorstep of playoffs witout a full offseason,JC going down,Dmac going down,Dmoore going down,Ford going down, getting Carson off the couch, and a chuck Bresnahan run Def. despite all that Hue had us 15 mins away from hosting Pitt. but I guess all that means nothing to you casual fans.
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You mustve missed my earlier posts.
I wasnt in favor of getting rid of Hue. But Hue did that to himself. And it has nothing to do with Knapp. That is the connection you guys are making that makes no sense.
Hue got himself fired. Knapp didnt push him out.
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if hue doesnt get fired knapp isnt hired thats how it relates simple.
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Correction…
If Hue doesnt get HIMSELF fired, then Knapp doesnt get hired.
Or better yet, why should you or anyone else blame Knapp for Hue getting fired? Especially when Knapp has done a fine job.
You guys were complaining after the preseason game where we put up 500 yards of offense. Nothing Knapp does will make you happy.
There were idiots who boo’d Gannon back in the day also so I shouldnt be surprised.
Carry on.
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I dont blame Hue for that as it makes no sense that dec is on Reggie and DA.
September 13th, 2012 at 5:35 pm
I’m with Klas, stupid Debby Downers
September 13th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
Both Packers and Bears starting off shaky.
September 13th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
Hue had that end of year rant after we lost. I agree with that somewhat. He should have kept it in doors and he should have done that a lot earlier! CP3 threw for 417 yards and 2 TDs that day. I agree, it wasn’t him, it was Breshnawhatever his name is…but how do we know that after that rant, Mark didn’t tell Reggie (after he hired him of course) to get rid of Hue?
September 13th, 2012 at 5:37 pm
peace fellas. i will leave you with this.
palmer looked the best he ever has in silver and black only 2 throws i thought were poor decisions.
Lets hope he can continue taking what the defense gives vs miami. aptient palmer throwing underneath is far better than the plamer winging it all over the field
just remain patient lay solid defense adn let miamis rookie qb make all of the mistakes
September 13th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
Anyways, point is…it is what it is. We are never gonna ever agree on everything. I hope we are not looking at another wasted season, but time will tell. Let’s see how the boys do this Sunday!!!
September 13th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
Hue Jackson is the Bengals secondary coach now (how good did THEY look…) who the eff cares. 16 teams lost last week… it aint the end of the world, just the end of week 1.
September 13th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
Klas-trophobic?
September 13th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
Bcz24 Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
Hue Jackson is the Bengals secondary coach now (how good did THEY look…) who the eff cares. 16 teams lost last week… it aint the end of the world, just the end of week 1.
Agreed! How you doing Bcz?
September 13th, 2012 at 5:42 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 5:37 pm
peace fellas. i will leave you with this.
just remain patient lay solid defense adn let miamis rookie qb make all of the mistakes
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Good plan. My only point is don’t underestimate the players and coaches of the NFL. Especially those trying to smash you. Rarely if ever, has anyone come in and ascended the throne of magnifiscence in the league and not come back down to Earth.
September 13th, 2012 at 5:42 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
Klas-trophobic?
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Some cats on this blog are Klastrophobic.
September 13th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
What the hell is wrong with Packers?
September 13th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
I posted the highlights from NFL.com of 3 games from 2010 (Jaguars, both Donkeys games), all showing D-Mac breaking long runs IN OBVIOUS ZBS blocking plays.
2010 was a zone blocking team. That’s why Hue came into 2011 TALKING ABOUT SWITCHING to a power-blocking scheme.
Why is this so hard to understand?
September 13th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
All streaks come to an end.
I believe we bounce back and beat Miami.
Raiders-21
Fins- 17
September 13th, 2012 at 5:45 pm
Knapp
September 13th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
As I always said, Jacoby should have been traded, for whatever we could have got (I think around draft time it could have been around a 4th rounder).
Can’t rely on oft-injured 5′8 WR’s.
September 13th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
Hwnrdr Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
Hue had that end of year rant after we lost. I agree with that somewhat. He should have kept it in doors and he should have done that a lot earlier! CP3 threw for 417 yards and 2 TDs that day. I agree, it wasn’t him, it was Breshnawhatever his name is…but how do we know that after that rant, Mark didn’t tell Reggie (after he hired him of course) to get rid of Hue?
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I think players get paid too much money not to be able to handle a lil criticism from the coach whether it be in house or in front of the media they dont mind when they get the praise PUT YOUR PANTS suck it up and perform if you cant and you get exposed to the world just go look at you bank account and you will feel better.
September 13th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
As it turned out, Jacoby Ford was no better than JLH.
September 13th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
Klas started Rodgers in one league and Cutler in the other. Not looking good so far.
September 13th, 2012 at 5:49 pm
I think players get paid too much money not to be able to handle a lil criticism from the coach whether it be in house or in front of the media
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Dude, he did it AFTER THE SEASON ENDED.
If he would have done that rant after the epic flops in Green Bay or Miami, it would have been well recieved and worthwhile.
But by waiting for the season to end, was a clear orchestrated tactic to absolve himself of any blame.
September 13th, 2012 at 5:49 pm
But…Higgins had a mean back flip
September 13th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
As it turned out, Jacoby Ford was no better than JLH.
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Sad…..but true.
September 13th, 2012 at 5:51 pm
Hue for president
Nnamdi for vice.
September 13th, 2012 at 5:51 pm
What up Hwnrdr… long time. Trying to talk some of the bloggers of the proverbial cliff after week 1…
September 13th, 2012 at 5:51 pm
this blog has turned into doom and gloom
September 13th, 2012 at 5:53 pm
Its always doom and gloom after a loss… when we win next week it will be stop 1 on the way to the super bowl.
September 13th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
I’m not writing the season off.
I believe Peyton will have a great 1st half of the season and then be gone by week 10.
Chargers aint sh!t.
Cheifs will rebound.
September 13th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
Packers and Bears offense making Klas feel a lot better about Raiders offense. Jordy Nelson with two wide open drops. Cutler can’t complete pass. Both QBs getting sacked a lot.
September 13th, 2012 at 5:55 pm
Anyone down to play some football? I’ll be at the park
September 13th, 2012 at 5:55 pm
bcz24 Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 5:53 pm
Its always doom and gloom after a loss… when we win next week it will be stop 1 on the way to the super bowl.
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I hear ya.
I thought things would start looking up this late in the week.
September 13th, 2012 at 5:56 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 5:49 pm
I think players get paid too much money not to be able to handle a lil criticism from the coach whether it be in house or in front of the media
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Dude, he did it AFTER THE SEASON ENDED.
If he would have done that rant after the epic flops in Green Bay or Miami, it would have been well recieved and worthwhile.
But by waiting for the season to end, was a clear orchestrated tactic to absolve himself of any blame.
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doesnt matter when he did it. He clearly had a part in it and he said through the season that HE had to be better and after an epic loss like that to end the season the players deserved all that they got. and obviously it didnt work dumb penalties still an issue in first game as well as costly turnovers.
September 13th, 2012 at 5:56 pm
MaxtallicA Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 5:55 pm
Anyone down to play some football? I’ll be at the park
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I’ll bring my 20 year old Raider hutch lol
September 13th, 2012 at 5:56 pm
I believe we will be a 7-8 win team, said it all along. No playoffs this year, and even if we made it we aren’t ready and will get bounced quickly. Don’t have the depth yet. This is NOT Al Davis’ team anymore. There is a plan, a direction. Chemistry will be built, it will not happen over night, but the phoenix WILL rise from the ashes.
September 13th, 2012 at 5:56 pm
Hue guys need to stop!
September 13th, 2012 at 5:58 pm
Both these teams have awful O-lines.
September 13th, 2012 at 5:58 pm
It is time to start looking forward to kicking Miami. Instead of Monday Night, and Hue Joke-son.
September 13th, 2012 at 5:59 pm
Penalties an issue? We had 6 penalties for 35 yards. Tk’s 2 penalties gave them opportune first downs on 1 drive, but neither cost us the game. Penalties were not a problem at all. We averaged 10 penalties for over 100 yards PER GAME last year. Stanford Routt gave up a 35 yard penalty EVERY GAME. 6 penalties with trigger happy replacement refs is pretty much outstanding.
September 13th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
I for one wont feel better if we beat MIA by the skin of our teeth. ESP going against a rookie QB.
September 13th, 2012 at 6:01 pm
doesnt matter when he did it.
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Of course it does, don’t be ridiculous.
September 13th, 2012 at 6:01 pm
A 1 point win counts exactly the same as a 40 point win.
September 13th, 2012 at 6:02 pm
I FIRMLY believe if we could have retained some of the pieces lost in free agency as well as retaining Huge action we would be a 10 win playoff team this year-no joke!
instead we will be a 6 win team.
I understand that Hue and Big Reg likely could not co exist but it still sucks imo.
Next year I see 10 wins
We will take our lumps this year but overall be respecatable.
September 13th, 2012 at 6:03 pm
Note to Raiders Defensive Linemen:
When rushing Fannehill try getting those hands up in the passing lanes for batted balls. He had any issue with this against the Texans and it cause two interceptions I think…
DO IT!
September 13th, 2012 at 6:03 pm
Hwnrdr Says:
how do we know that after that rant, Mark didn’t tell Reggie (after he hired him of course) to get rid of Hue?
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Corky has alluded to as much. He has hinted that Mark told Reggie that Hue had to go and his hiring was contingent upon that. Reggie had no say in the matter.
We’re lucky Amy Trask is still here to be honest.
The Hue love-fest is so funny. We were an undisciplined joke. Inconsistent. And equally as frustrating as we are now. A lot of revisionist history going on here simply because people dont like Knapp.
The fact is, if you are hating Knapp right now, you have an agenda and are not being objective.
September 13th, 2012 at 6:04 pm
Caused*
September 13th, 2012 at 6:04 pm
Curious, the 2010 team was much better than 2011, blowing some teams out and going 6-0 in the division. The offense was much better as well.
How come nobody says they wish we kept Cable at HC and Hue at OC?
September 13th, 2012 at 6:05 pm
JFB can happily cite numerous flaws in Hues offensive scheme
September 13th, 2012 at 6:07 pm
Bcz24 Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 5:59 pm
Penalties an issue? We had 6 penalties for 35 yards. Tk’s 2 penalties gave them opportune first downs on 1 drive, but neither cost us the game. Penalties were not a problem at all. We averaged 10 penalties for over 100 yards PER GAME last year. Stanford Routt gave up a 35 yard penalty EVERY GAME. 6 penalties with trigger happy replacement refs is pretty much outstanding.
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I agree with everything youve said, but we had similar penalties last year as this game. We were always good for 5-6 dumb penalties and 5-6 Pete Rozelle specials.
The replacement refs never got the memo. We havent gotten any perfectly timed BS momentum killing penalties this year but give it time. The real refs will eventually come back and so will the bias.
We still have work to do in the penalty department. We have to eliminate our own dumb ones so that we will end each game with only the prerequisite league specials.
September 13th, 2012 at 6:08 pm
Anyone who reads my posts know I am and always will be consistent with my opinions.
I am not delusional with Hue and his flaws but at the same time I liked what he brought to the table and believed he could overcome his flaws. He was a rookie HC afterall.
Anyways, it is all moot and I am all in with our B cup coach and am always 100% behind the Raiders on game day regrdless.
September 13th, 2012 at 6:09 pm
im out nation good chatting with you all.
September 13th, 2012 at 6:10 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 6:04 pm
Curious, the 2010 team was much better than 2011, blowing some teams out and going 6-0 in the division. The offense was much better as well.
How come nobody says they wish we kept Cable at HC and Hue at OC?
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I was, ecspecialy to keep things consistent.
September 13th, 2012 at 6:11 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
As it turned out, Jacoby Ford was no better than JLH.
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Sad…..but true.
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Right that KC game at home in 2010 was vintage JLH.
September 13th, 2012 at 6:12 pm
Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 6:10 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 6:04 pm
Curious, the 2010 team was much better than 2011, blowing some teams out and going 6-0 in the division. The offense was much better as well.
How come nobody says they wish we kept Cable at HC and Hue at OC?
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I was, ecspecialy to keep things consistent.
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That’s what I wanted to
September 13th, 2012 at 6:14 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 6:04 pm
Curious, the 2010 team was much better than 2011, blowing some teams out and going 6-0 in the division. The offense was much better as well.
How come nobody says they wish we kept Cable at HC and Hue at OC?
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Easy. The 2010 was Hue’s team. Al basically said so during Hue’s introductory press confernce when he mocked Cable for not being accountable. Cable was a Raiderette. Hue had back-to-back 8-8 years to start his Raider career just like Gruden.
September 13th, 2012 at 6:14 pm
Klas gonna get screwed in fantasy leagues this week
September 13th, 2012 at 6:16 pm
I’m e sure once the Bungles fire Lewis, they’ll replace him with Jackson…it’s the Bungle thing to do.
September 13th, 2012 at 6:17 pm
Easy. The 2010 was Hue’s team.
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So it was Hue than, that benched Campbell for Gradkowski multiple times?
September 13th, 2012 at 6:17 pm
Palmer attempted 46 passes, 2 were over 20yds. None were completed.
September 13th, 2012 at 6:18 pm
I have Cutler tonite, so far not so good.
September 13th, 2012 at 6:18 pm
Muuuuurrrrrrr
September 13th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
Raider Riff Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 6:03 pm
Hwnrdr Says:
how do we know that after that rant, Mark didn’t tell Reggie (after he hired him of course) to get rid of Hue?
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Corky has alluded to as much. He has hinted that Mark told Reggie that Hue had to go and his hiring was contingent upon that. Reggie had no say in the matter.
We’re lucky Amy Trask is still here to be honest.
The Hue love-fest is so funny. We were an undisciplined joke. Inconsistent. And equally as frustrating as we are now. A lot of revisionist history going on here simply because people dont like Knapp.
The fact is, if you are hating Knapp right now, you have an agenda and are not being objective.
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Dude give me a break, we still had dumbass offsides penalties, and our coach,as he admitted, didn’t have a plan for Condo and we had 3 punts we couldn’t execute. Not to mention, these refs aren’t CONDITIONED like the other ones to call crap on us, plus Al is dead.
The only agenda I have is making sure a POS coordinator like Knapp is never on this team. You keep giving this bullish!t “players have to execute” line. For 3/4 of his OC career, players have NOT executed for this retard, plus he could always move the ball & never FU**king score. Until the NFL changes the rules and scores games by TOP & yardage totals, he will be as worthless as an azzhole on my elbow. I’m so sorry you consider my studying of history and coming to deduction that this guy fu**ing sucks as an OC as an “agenda.”.
September 13th, 2012 at 6:20 pm
Packer and Bear offenses look worse than Raiders tonight
September 13th, 2012 at 6:20 pm
I am eager to see Alshon Jeffrey play.
I really liked him in college, and was amazed he fell so far in the draft.
He went out weekly in the SEC, and was at times the best player on the field.
September 13th, 2012 at 6:23 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 6:20 pm
I am eager to see Alshon Jeffrey play.
I really liked him in college, and was amazed he fell so far in the draft.
He went out weekly in the SEC, and was at times the best player on the field.
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I’m in a keeper league, I have him on my bench.
September 13th, 2012 at 6:23 pm
Can’t execute without time to throw…Bears line is weak.
September 13th, 2012 at 6:24 pm
Jamarcus Webb, LT for the Bears, allowed more sacks than any other LT last season and also had the most penalties of any player in the NFL.
Why on Earth does he still have a job?
September 13th, 2012 at 6:24 pm
this game blows
September 13th, 2012 at 6:25 pm
Another Jamarcus epic fail.
September 13th, 2012 at 6:25 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 6:24 pm
Jamarcus Webb, LT for the Bears, allowed more sacks than any other LT last season and also had the most penalties of any player in the NFL.
Why on Earth does he still have a job?
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Because he has a likeable 1st name?
September 13th, 2012 at 6:26 pm
BTW, Veldheer had the 2nd most penalties of all O-lineman
September 13th, 2012 at 6:27 pm
Is Greg Knapp calling plays for Chi and GB, or what?
September 13th, 2012 at 6:28 pm
Jamarcus Webb, LT for the Bears, allowed more sacks than any other LT last season and also had the most penalties of any player in the NFL.
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Because he was pretty damn effective the other 94% of the snaps he was on the field?
September 13th, 2012 at 6:29 pm
A good sign for the next home game…
Greg, time to take a dirt Knapp
September 13th, 2012 at 6:29 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 6:17 pm
Easy. The 2010 was Hue’s team.
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So it was Hue than, that benched Campbell for Gradkowski multiple times?
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Hue said it was his idea to bench Campbell for Grads in the St Louis game.
September 13th, 2012 at 6:29 pm
Ahhh Benson.
September 13th, 2012 at 6:32 pm
Cobb…Another sleeper marinating on my bench
September 13th, 2012 at 6:33 pm
hahah same here
September 13th, 2012 at 6:34 pm
Irish coffee and pedicures.
September 13th, 2012 at 6:34 pm
yo anybody down to create a fantasy league for this blog??
September 13th, 2012 at 6:34 pm
Mani-pedi’s morilla..mani-pedis
September 13th, 2012 at 6:36 pm
Henry Melton, per SI, had the best QB pressure % of any defensive player in the league.
September 13th, 2012 at 6:37 pm
MaddenRaiderisadouchebag Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 6:29 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 6:17 pm
Easy. The 2010 was Hue’s team.
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So it was Hue than, that benched Campbell for Gradkowski multiple times?
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Hue said it was his idea to bench Campbell for Grads in the St Louis game.
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Hue washired by Davis and answered to him, not Cable. Poor Cable got his ass castrated by his boss and had his checks garnished for good measure. That’s not a head coach. Hue’s show period.
September 13th, 2012 at 6:37 pm
Not hard to believe when he plays between Peppers and Idoneje
September 13th, 2012 at 6:38 pm
Cable just got to take credit for firing JaMarshmallow.
September 13th, 2012 at 6:39 pm
Jimmyball12 Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 6:34 pm
Mani-pedi’s morilla..mani-pedis
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Hahaha, I forgot the horrible suits too.
September 13th, 2012 at 6:39 pm
night all
September 13th, 2012 at 6:40 pm
C R E A T I V E
September 13th, 2012 at 6:40 pm
I think the holder has more FF points than Rodgers right now.
September 13th, 2012 at 6:41 pm
Is Greg Knapp calling plays for Chi and GB, or what?
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Ewwww and Jhill hits Knapp below the belt. Knapp being attended to in his corner.
September 13th, 2012 at 6:41 pm
Don’t forget about the newest edition of US Weekly to go with your mani-pedi
September 13th, 2012 at 6:43 pm
BTW, it’s fair to say that if Davis didn’t hire Hue, we wouldn’t have even consider extending Cable’s contract right?
September 13th, 2012 at 6:44 pm
Jimmyball12 Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 6:34 pm
Mani-pedi’s morilla..mani-pedis
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Hahaha, I forgot the horrible suits too.
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Lets not make fun of Hue too bad man, he gave us more excitement then we had for a whole decade..god knows we could use his creativity this season.. shoulda kept him!!!……
September 13th, 2012 at 6:45 pm
Casey Heyward, that’s who I had for us in our draft wish list.
He didn’t last into the 3rd round though.
September 13th, 2012 at 6:49 pm
Campbell might get his chance yet.
September 13th, 2012 at 6:50 pm
So JFB,
Cutler is the best QB in the league?
September 13th, 2012 at 6:52 pm
When did I say he was the best QB in the league?
I do like him though, other than his piss-poor body language.
September 13th, 2012 at 6:53 pm
Was it best arm in the league?
September 13th, 2012 at 6:55 pm
Palmer and Cutler have thrown over 140 interceptions in their last 4 seasons where they started each game.
Damn.
September 13th, 2012 at 6:57 pm
Everyones hero Peyton Manning has thrown the exact same amount of ints in his last 2 seasons as palmer in his last 2 full (not counting last year)
September 13th, 2012 at 6:59 pm
He has one of them, but if you were to ask me who could wind up and throw the ball the furthest, I would go with Flacco.
September 13th, 2012 at 7:02 pm
Allen said long-snapper Jon Condo (concussion) is “feeling better” and will accompany the Raiders to Miami. Condo will play, too, if he is cleared by team doctors.
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where is semi-pro blogger DMAC?
CODE CONDO, SUCKAS!
September 13th, 2012 at 7:03 pm
Ford to I.R.
thank you Reggie & Dennis!!
September 13th, 2012 at 7:03 pm
Anyone remember the QB contest they use to broadcast on NBC?
I still remember when Jay Schroeder tossed it 72 yds in the long throw.
September 13th, 2012 at 7:05 pm
What up Rock, long time no see. I predicted ford to IR 2 weeks ago. This is not news… Did you mail BSJ his Condo jersey yet?
September 13th, 2012 at 7:05 pm
you know Al Davis & Hue Jackson would have waited until Week 16 or 17 to place Ford on injured reserve, effectively killing a roster spot for 15 weeks or so
sleepy dwarf #12 was a menace to victory anyways
[I owe BSJ $5 for stealing his line]
September 13th, 2012 at 7:06 pm
Good call RRS.
How you been man?
September 13th, 2012 at 7:07 pm
bcz24 Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 6:57 pm
Everyones hero Peyton Manning has thrown the exact same amount of ints in his last 2 seasons as palmer in his last 2 full (not counting last year)
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Interesting…
Peyton always seemed like a real tall guy to me…. taller than Palmer..Both 6′5.
Do u have the rest of the stat comparisons handy?
Just curious.
September 13th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
Sorry, watching the game…nice fake FG, but that int was, well, not enough evidence!
September 13th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 7:03 pm
Anyone remember the QB contest they use to broadcast on NBC?
I still remember when Jay Schroeder tossed it 72 yds in the long throw.
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Yeah didn’t Hostetler win that QB competition…Alexander Wright & James Jett won the fastest man competitions.
September 13th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
Rockstar! What’s up man?
September 13th, 2012 at 7:09 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 7:05 pm
you know Al Davis & Hue Jackson would have waited until Week 16 or 17 to place Ford on injured reserve, effectively killing a roster spot for 15 weeks or so
sleepy dwarf #12 was a menace to victory anyways
[I owe BSJ $5 for stealing his line]
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I’m not ready to give Reggie or DA any credit as being better than anything Al Davis did or didn’t do…UNTIL they win a football game….
September 13th, 2012 at 7:11 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 6:40 pm
I think the holder has more FF points than Rodgers right now.
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Packers “D” has more points than Rodgers right now!
September 13th, 2012 at 7:13 pm
Do u have the rest of the stat comparisons handy?
Just curious.
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I dont, sorry
September 13th, 2012 at 7:15 pm
MaddenRaiderisadouchebag Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 7:03 pm
Anyone remember the QB contest they use to broadcast on NBC?
I still remember when Jay Schroeder tossed it 72 yds in the long throw.
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Yeah didn’t Hostetler win that QB competition…Alexander Wright & James Jett won the fastest man competitions.
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Boy, we’ve had some burners on this team throughout the years.
September 13th, 2012 at 7:16 pm
I don’t care if my HC comes out there wearing a dress and a leather mask over his face as long as he wins football games.
September 13th, 2012 at 7:18 pm
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Yeah didn’t Hostetler win that QB competition…Alexander Wright & James Jett won the fastest man competitions.
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Greatest Berman nickname – Alexander “If loving you is wrong..i don’t wanna be..” Wright.
September 13th, 2012 at 7:20 pm
http://www.freepriesttjnow.org
September 13th, 2012 at 7:21 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 7:18 pm
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Yeah didn’t Hostetler win that QB competition…Alexander Wright & James Jett won the fastest man competitions.
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Greatest Berman nickname – Alexander “If loving you is wrong..i don’t wanna be..” Wright.
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Jeff “Mick” Jaeger…ok that wasn’t as good.
September 13th, 2012 at 7:22 pm
389,
Ha…I forgot about that one.
September 13th, 2012 at 7:23 pm
Did we ever have the Rocket and the Jett out on the field at the same time?
September 13th, 2012 at 7:24 pm
You know..I had no problem with Berman’s broadcast. I had heard he was a “hater” but never really saw that in him.
In fact he seemed to border on being a Raider homer during the game.
September 13th, 2012 at 7:24 pm
i wish we could go back and see how many of those 9-7/8-8 teams we had from 85 to 94 were only one or two penalties/plays away from making it to the playoffs..and perhaps winning the afc…we always had mad talent..if dokie williams doesnt drop that mark wilson pass on 4th and 20 against the Pats in 85 we may have been in the SB…(not to mention the B.S holding call the play b4 when Allen took a dump down pass 30 yds to get into FG range)…the refs loved screwin us didnt they??
September 13th, 2012 at 7:24 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 7:23 pm
Did we ever have the Rocket and the Jett out on the field at the same time?
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1994 was their first year together I believe
September 13th, 2012 at 7:26 pm
…the refs loved screwin us didnt they??
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yes they did, don’t worry it won’t be as bad now since they hated Al so much for not blowing the power dons like the Rooney”s, Kraft’s, Bowlen’s of the league.
September 13th, 2012 at 7:27 pm
Cranberry Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 7:20 pm
http://www.freepriesttjnow.org
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If you know priest tell him to come back. I didn’t always agree with him but i liked the back and forth.
Whatever happened to him? Is he in some prison camp outside of Hanoi?
September 13th, 2012 at 7:29 pm
MaddenRaiderisadouchebag Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 7:26 pm
…the refs loved screwin us didnt they??
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yes they did, don’t worry it won’t be as bad now since they hated Al so much for not blowing the power dons like the Rooney”s, Kraft’s, Bowlen’s of the league.
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Couldnt agree with you more,,F*** all of them..We had the talent to win it every one of those forgotten years of the mid 80’s/90’s..Gruden was right after the tuck rule game “They’re never gona let you guys win”..couldnt be more true..
September 13th, 2012 at 7:29 pm
Found on road dead.
Was nice knowing you Jacoby, it was never meant to be. Walmart or In N Out burger are always looking for quality individuals.
September 13th, 2012 at 7:32 pm
no matter what they didnt wana let Al win..if only he acted the part of a spineless pu**y like craft and the roonie family..then maybe some of those holdings/illegal contacts wouldnt have been called..SADLY..the last two years IMHO were AL’s last two shots to win it..one game/penalty here and there and were lookin at a playoff birth in ‘10 and/or ‘11…
September 13th, 2012 at 7:34 pm
those team would have been classic AL teams..nasty front 4..speedster WR’s and Big armed Qb’s…woulda been cool to see Jacoby run back a TD in a playoff game..im guessing he’s probly seen his last days with us..frigin pitty i loved that guy
September 13th, 2012 at 7:34 pm
I hope the new ref’s stay. Even if they miss a call here or there, or gives a team an extra time out. lol Break the lineage of Raider hating refs.
September 13th, 2012 at 7:35 pm
Nooooooooooooooo!!!!! Forte!!!!!!!
September 13th, 2012 at 7:36 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 7:34 pm
I hope the new ref’s stay. Even if they miss a call here or there, or gives a team an extra time out. lol Break the lineage of Raider hating refs.
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Was thinkin the same thing..our DB’s could use some help..
September 13th, 2012 at 7:37 pm
MIke Bush as the Primary Back…
let’s see how this goes.
September 13th, 2012 at 7:43 pm
wish we kept him man…i had a dream the other night..i dreamed we let Boller finish out the year last year and we went 5-11..i dreamed we had our 1st rd picks and kept Campbell/bush/wimbley…with this same system now..how sick would we be..???
September 13th, 2012 at 7:48 pm
MistaBrown Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 7:29 pm
Found on road dead.
Was nice knowing you Jacoby, it was never meant to be. Walmart or In N Out burger are always looking for quality individuals.
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He’d burn himself in the fryer.
September 13th, 2012 at 7:52 pm
I dont think Jacoby ever rebounded after JCampbell went down and eventually left..Campbell/Heyward-bay/jacoby were tight
September 13th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
Sup guys,
What would you give up in a trade for a legitimate starting CB, if the Raiders needed to do it?
September 13th, 2012 at 7:54 pm
Unfortunate to hear any football player lose a season to injury. Especially when you are trying to establish yourself…Best wishes to Jacoby Ford.
I believe the next time you see Ford in a jersey, it will not be a Raider jersey. Ford goes the way of JLH and other 1 hit (err year) wonders.
The Raiders have to seriously address their training and conditioning methods. These injuries are debilitating. Always hitting the field with one arm tied behind the back.
September 13th, 2012 at 7:59 pm
You guys realize bush being here would be a bad thing. He’s cursed. Where ever he goes the starting back goes down. It’s a proven fact.
September 13th, 2012 at 7:59 pm
One could only imagine a season where DMC/DMOOR/JFORD where healthy all year TOGETHER..ehhhh i guess we will never know..
September 13th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
q: Coach Allen, what kind of preparation is the club making in regard to the game against Miami?
DA: First and foremost I wanna congratulate the Chargers. They are a tremendous organization. Well run from top to bottom. They are a well coached team with some great players, and really that’s a credit to the front office people from the Owner to the President, to the General Manager. Listen, San Diego is a great city with great fans who know the game and I see only great things for this organization moving forward. They gave us all we could handle and then some Mon night.
g. That’s nice. How do you handle Miami’s front seven.
DA: Well, after you’ve just played a superior opponent like Philip and the Chargers, it gets u ready for a team like Miami. Philly did everything the right way…as he always does, and that helps to prepare for a team like Miami. When I was fishing with Phil last week he told me that Miami is a good team and to watch out for them. Well, Philip being the superior QB he is..well, you listen to that kind of guy. There’s no doubt that Phil is a hall of famer..hands down, no questions asked…so I listen to him…especially since he comes from such a superior organization like the San Diego Chargers. We kind of look to the Chargers as a blueprint for what Reggie and I want to accomplish here in Oakland. It’ll take awhile to get up to their level of excellence but like I say, you just wanna get better everyday and someday we may get there.
q. Thanks Coach.
September 13th, 2012 at 8:05 pm
“…especially with your number one going down,” Raiders GM, Reggie McKenzie on the record stating Denarius Moore is the Raiders number 1 wide receiver.
The most important statement of the transcript.
September 13th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
Well, one thing for sure is that it’s highly unlikely that our special team will suffer another meltdown. Defense played well but Knapp needs to be more of an aggressive play caller and DMAC needs yds in chunks.
September 13th, 2012 at 8:12 pm
I dont wana be some pu**y foot soft organization! I wana be the Raiders..Were never gona have that kinf of mantra again..the sad part is we could have stayed the old raiders while also adapting to SOME of the nuances in the modern game (Basically what Hue was trying to do)..WE were there too!!!!! We were frigin there!!!!
September 13th, 2012 at 8:14 pm
MistaBrown Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 7:29 pm
Found on road dead.
Was nice knowing you Jacoby, it was never meant to be. Walmart or In N Out burger are always looking for quality individuals.
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If only you had an GED, BrownStains, you could get a job, too.
September 13th, 2012 at 8:14 pm
Bears better fire the OC.
September 13th, 2012 at 8:15 pm
DJ
You do know most all coaches show some respect to the team that just beat them, they always say they are a good team and will say certain players like a good QB is good and what not. This is very much normal, I think your off base on this on.
September 13th, 2012 at 8:15 pm
I thought that would be a better game but one team did not show up.
September 13th, 2012 at 8:16 pm
Cutler is such a punk.
September 13th, 2012 at 8:17 pm
BEARS system not built to come from behind..maybe last year with Martz..
September 13th, 2012 at 8:18 pm
Plunketthead Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 8:14 pm
Bears better fire the OC.
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I was thinking the same thing. The life of an OC is week to week listening to the crew in here
September 13th, 2012 at 8:18 pm
C’MON throw to B Marsh man
September 13th, 2012 at 8:18 pm
Bears making Klas feel lot better about Raiders.
September 13th, 2012 at 8:18 pm
Bears atleast try to take shots unlike……
September 13th, 2012 at 8:19 pm
This game is fantasy nightmare.
September 13th, 2012 at 8:19 pm
“Cutler is such a punk.”
I agree 100% total doucher
September 13th, 2012 at 8:19 pm
Cant throw to Bmarsh if you got peppers and surfer boy in your face every play….looked like us monday night…….Any body else notice the bad offensive line play against SD???? Even veldheer was gettn kinda beat
September 13th, 2012 at 8:20 pm
So far my prediction of Burris being top 5 in rookie tackles looks good…DROY? I like the way he plays.
September 13th, 2012 at 8:21 pm
B Marsh should of had a TD but he dropped the damn thing.
September 13th, 2012 at 8:24 pm
I had Forte and B Marsh, not a good week
September 13th, 2012 at 8:25 pm
realtruraider Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 8:15 pm
DJ
You do know most all coaches show some respect to the team that just beat them, they always say they are a good team and will say certain players like a good QB is good and what not. This is very much normal, I think your off base on this on.
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I know i’m making way more out of it than what I should. Just having a little fun with it.
September 13th, 2012 at 8:25 pm
…i do think he was too over the top with it though.
September 13th, 2012 at 8:26 pm
I have Crosby (Kicker) lots of FF points
September 13th, 2012 at 8:27 pm
Klas Rodgers in one league and Cutler in the other. Also started Jeffrey!
September 13th, 2012 at 8:27 pm
Lots of fighting like Raiders vs. Broncos game.
September 13th, 2012 at 8:29 pm
Cutler loves holding on to that ball.
September 13th, 2012 at 8:31 pm
Burris front runner in my book for AFC defensive rookie of the year.
September 13th, 2012 at 8:32 pm
Should of had the GB defense this week.
September 13th, 2012 at 8:32 pm
cutler might just not be as good as advertised…without a GRADE A defense what would he really be??
September 13th, 2012 at 8:35 pm
Nice and calm in the gaza strip of blogs tonight.
September 13th, 2012 at 8:36 pm
Who would of guessed GB defense would look like this after last week? Just maybe the Raiders offense will look alot better and we will all forget about ever doubting Knapp
September 13th, 2012 at 8:36 pm
Question to our GM:
“Before Chargers game, did you have that sense of, OK, this is my team, I’m a general manager and this is my first game? Or do you not think like that?”
Reggie McKenzie:
“I tried not to think like that. Then when you have some of your buddies around the league saying, `This is your first one,’ and I’m like, OK. Some of your friends and family and some of my road scouts, I get a text from Zack (Crockett) or my brother, or Mickey (Marvin). Just win, baby. It’s your first one, let’s get it. So you can’t help but think about it a little bit. You go out there, they got the Black Hole, they’re cheering you on. You kind of grasp it all, kind of savor the moment, and the hype of Monday night, too. So, yeah, I kind of got fired up, got excited. But once it kicks off, you focus on the game, seeing how the guys on play.”
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The way he should have responded….
“I look at it as OUR first GAME together….I look at it as OUR first opportunity to showcase all the hard work and long hours we have put in to make this TEAM what it can and must become…”
September 13th, 2012 at 8:40 pm
Bears gave up TWO 1st rounders, a 3rd AND Kyle Orton for Cutler.
Raiders give up a 1st and 2nd for Palmer.
Nobody ever talks about what the Bears gave up for Cutler.
September 13th, 2012 at 8:41 pm
” Your never as good as you think you are and your never as bad”
September 13th, 2012 at 8:43 pm
” Your never as good as you think you are and your never as bad”
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Of course the opposite could also be true….
“You are as good as you think you are and you are also as bad….”
Just Sayin’
September 13th, 2012 at 8:43 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
q: Coach Allen, what kind of preparation is the club making in regard to the game against Miami?
DA: First and foremost I wanna congratulate the Chargers. They are a tremendous organization. Well run from top to bottom. They are a well coached team with some great players, and really that’s a credit to the front office people from the Owner to the President, to the General Manager. Listen, San Diego is a great city with great fans who know the game and I see only great things for this organization moving forward. They gave us all we could handle and then some Mon night.
g. That’s nice. How do you handle Miami’s front seven.
DA: Well, after you’ve just played a superior opponent like Philip and the Chargers, it gets u ready for a team like Miami. Philly did everything the right way…as he always does, and that helps to prepare for a team like Miami. When I was fishing with Phil last week he told me that Miami is a good team and to watch out for them. Well, Philip being the superior QB he is..well, you listen to that kind of guy. There’s no doubt that Phil is a hall of famer..hands down, no questions asked…so I listen to him…especially since he comes from such a superior organization like the San Diego Chargers. We kind of look to the Chargers as a blueprint for what Reggie and I want to accomplish here in Oakland. It’ll take awhile to get up to their level of excellence but like I say, you just wanna get better everyday and someday we may get there.
q. Thanks Coach.
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Woulda rather heard allen say he was pissed about losin and they were going to get it right with a helluva week of practice. No need to lick charger balls just becuz they handed you your ass.
Allen: Hell yeah I’m pissed and the first thing I’m gonna do after I’m done talkin to you is go rip some ass in half. Now where is Knapp? Goodnite.
September 13th, 2012 at 8:44 pm
Yes it could
September 13th, 2012 at 8:44 pm
good point DJ..Raiders 34 Fins 9..GOOOOO RAIDERS!!!!
September 13th, 2012 at 8:45 pm
Why think in negatives?
or
Why not think in negatives?
September 13th, 2012 at 8:50 pm
I would like to see Burris turn into our beast speed rusher like a Matthews
September 13th, 2012 at 8:50 pm
Some of you might find this article useful, “How to Argue on the Internet Without Becoming a Troll”
http://lifehacker.com/5943083/how-to-argue-on-the-internet-without-becoming-a-troll
September 13th, 2012 at 8:50 pm
We can put to rest the talk about WR’s use to was its.
http://blog.sfgate.com/raiders/2012/09/13/mckenzie-says-raiders-have-no-interest-in-burress-johnson-or-owens/
September 13th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
Stay Positive ya’ll, time to move on from the Monday nighter and look forward to Sunday
September 13th, 2012 at 8:52 pm
jimmyball12 Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 7:52 pm
I dont think Jacoby ever rebounded after JCampbell went down and eventually left..Campbell/Heyward-bay/jacoby were tight
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The Oakland Raiders haven’t rebounded since JC went down.
September 13th, 2012 at 8:55 pm
Question for our GM:
Could you and should you have had another long snapper prepared? Or is that just an unforeseen circumstance …
Reggie McKenzie’s response:
Well, it’s unforeseen. You try a couple of guys that you have in practice and of course the best one was Travis. It was just unfortunate that it didn’t work out as good as you would have hoped. You knew he wasn’t going to be the type of snapper that does it for a living but that he could get it back there and do it ok. Games are different. … I don’t think any team has ever kept two-snapper only guys. … Hopefully that’s a once in a lifetime deal.
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How he should have responded.
“It’s my job to have this team prepared for the unforeseen. That’s why I get paid the big bucks. I gotta go, this interview is over….I need to get to work and figure out when and where the next unforeseen moment might come….cause if I don’t….Mark is gonna have to replace me”
September 13th, 2012 at 8:58 pm
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 8:50 pm
Some of you might find this article useful, “How to Argue on the Internet Without Becoming a Troll”
http://lifehacker.com/5943083/how-to-argue-on-the-internet-without-becoming-a-troll
Great link, but written by a semi-pro (as descibed, he was never a master debater)
. Why would you want to argue with a troll anyways? It’s just a waste of time.
September 13th, 2012 at 8:58 pm
Relax, everyone. Less than three days from now, we’ll be celebrating a win over Miami, the Raiders will be 1-1, and AmysInCharge, OakfoShow and Al_is_theraiders will all be sobbing into their pillows.
September 13th, 2012 at 9:02 pm
And I’ll be bringing up how it isn’t to far fetched to think that we can beat an old withering Pittsburgh team in Oakland..
September 13th, 2012 at 9:02 pm
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 8:50 pm
Some of you might find this article useful, “How to Argue on the Internet Without Becoming a Troll”
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Klas, here is a great link for you:
http://trolls.com
September 13th, 2012 at 9:03 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 8:40 pm
Bears gave up TWO 1st rounders, a 3rd AND Kyle Orton for Cutler.
Raiders give up a 1st and 2nd for Palmer.
Nobody ever talks about what the Bears gave up for Cutler.
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Check the age of the QBs….
September 13th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
Raiders can beat Miami if Knapp is placed on the MUP (mentally unable to perform) list.
September 13th, 2012 at 9:23 pm
i hope they do win goose, i mean duck. But if they dont will you admit that zbs with a west coast offense and third rate recievers dont add up? zone coverage with slow and injury prone cbs are dumb idea? of course not because youre a whiner fan…
September 13th, 2012 at 9:26 pm
hmm another week i can use to prove to idiots that drafting a QB(arron rodgers) with the 4th pick of the draft is utterly retarded..”oh wait! its a QB league”!!! OH REALLY!!!? anybody can throw for 300 yds now days..its a passing league! ppl are so dumb
September 13th, 2012 at 9:29 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 9:03 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 8:40 pm
Bears gave up TWO 1st rounders, a 3rd AND Kyle Orton for Cutler.
Raiders give up a 1st and 2nd for Palmer.
Nobody ever talks about what the Bears gave up for Cutler.
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Check the age of the QBs….
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There is only a four year difference and frankly, Cutler blows.
September 13th, 2012 at 9:35 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 9:23 pm
i hope they do win goose, i mean duck. But if they dont will you admit that zbs with a west coast offense and third rate recievers dont add up? zone coverage with slow and injury prone cbs are dumb idea? of course not because youre a whiner fan…
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Eating the lead paint chips again? I’ve never rooted for the Niners in my life, and don’t plan to start now.
September 13th, 2012 at 9:36 pm
Who would we want on our squad right now? Cutler or Palmer straight up..
September 13th, 2012 at 9:37 pm
keep telling yourself that…if it looks like a duck…
September 13th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
YO DUDES, CHECK THIS OUT
missus b hasnt dropped a duece since the raidas lost and i ain’t gonna drop one til they win. so if the lose it looks like i won’t be duecin for two weeks. but i got a doozie in the oven and needs to drop so the raidas better win or i will need a tow truck to get that one out. if they don’t win by the bye week i am gonna have one big gut
HOLLA
September 13th, 2012 at 9:39 pm
Someone want to break down the dolphins for us and how to beat them?
September 13th, 2012 at 9:39 pm
jimmyball12 Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 9:36 pm
Who would we want on our squad right now? Cutler or Palmer straight up..
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Palmer. By a long shot.
September 13th, 2012 at 9:42 pm
Raider Riff Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
Raider Riff Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
Zopi Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
The buzz on the dolts’ talk radio down here in SoCal is that Nerd Turner outsmarted the Raiders coaching staff, both defensively and offensively. The Raiders helped and did their own damage, though, on just about every facet of the game.
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I wouldnt say he outsmarted us. Us losing our long snapper does not mean Norv outsmarted us. Dont listen to the homers in SoCal.
Norv had a solid plan. He worked with what he had. We had a equally solid plan and a ton more talent. We didnt execute, lost the turnover battle, and we lost a major special teams cog. End of story.
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The SoCal homers are just that – San Diego only managed FG’s and If the Raiders wouldn’t have lost long-snapper Jon Condo to an in-game head injury, Oakland may very well have topped the sluggish Chargers. The injury thing is worrisome, and will have the team forced to spend more this and next year, however.
September 13th, 2012 at 9:46 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 9:39 pm
Someone want to break down the dolphins for us and how to beat them?
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Its going to be very hard. The Texans averaged only 2 yards a carry and on one of the TDs in the redzone Arian Foster barely got broke the plane of the endzone – Nolan is one of the best d-coordinators around. They can eat the ZBS for lunch. The Raiders have a short week, and the miscues mean they have to be even more 0ne dimensional because they flub gadget plays.
Miami will be without Vontae Davis and their receivers are horrible, but its an even match because our DBs are average, too. – look for a knock down drag out that could come down to a fumble or a botched special team or interception for the victory on either side.
Be wary of officiating, too. I think its a must win with Pittsburgh and a suddenly very confident Denver on the horizon.
September 13th, 2012 at 9:46 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 9:39 pm
Someone want to break down the dolphins for us and how to beat them?
they have to win so i can drop a duece holla
September 13th, 2012 at 9:47 pm
The Fish are doing a very good job of getting Reggie Bush into space. That is the lst point of contain. Hartline is their best receiver. Take Reggie Bush out of the game and they are going to be in trouble. Altho you cannot let special teams kill you, and the fish ST’s are good.
September 13th, 2012 at 9:49 pm
Dolphins break down: 1) Pass rush has to get to Tannehill early and often, and they MUST produce turnovers!!!
2) Special teams cant put us at our own 12yd line to start every drive, and we can’t put them at our 45 every drive(if you look at the SD game it was really just a field position battle), maybe T.jones can run one back and redeem himself!!
3) Palmer needs to be conservative like he was last week, depend on his running game and defense to make plays. Running will be tough, Miami’s front 4 is as good as they come.ALSO!! WE NEED TO ESTABLISH SOME TYPE of passing game early on!!! That will open up the run game and play action!!
4) DHB has to make plays period, If palmer can get protection, I like our WR’s over their secondary.
5) Sea bass must be clutch..got a feeling..
6) Overall: We cant put Palmer in catch up mode early on! Our RUN DEFENSE (like last week) has to take away their run, without a run game i don’t see how we can lose to tannehill..Get up on them early, pound the rock, then kill em with play-action!! Oh yeah one more thing….Knapp….Screens to REECE/DMAC/JONES please..
September 13th, 2012 at 9:51 pm
RaiderSam Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 9:46 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 9:39 pm
Someone want to break down the dolphins for us and how to beat them?
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Its going to be very hard. The Texans averaged only 2 yards a carry and on one of the TDs in the redzone Arian Foster barely got broke the plane of the endzone – Nolan is one of the best d-coordinators around. They can eat the ZBS for lunch. The Raiders have a short week, and the miscues mean they have to be even more 0ne dimensional because they flub gadget plays.
Miami will be without Vontae Davis and their receivers are horrible, but its an even match because our DBs are average, too. – look for a knock down drag out that could come down to a fumble or a botched special team or interception for the victory on either side.
Be wary of officiating, too. I think its a must win with Pittsburgh and a suddenly very confident Denver on the horizon.
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Very good. Coyle is their DC tho not Nolan anymore. Mike is over in the ATL. This is a very very good Fish defense. They are disciplined and they get after it. That game against the Texans was much closer than the score indicates. Koa Misi has been a house wrecker. They are now playing an even front, which is a change for them. offensively, this is going to be a challenge for us.
September 13th, 2012 at 9:51 pm
And dont let them establish the sweep game..they’re gona try and spread out our big D-line and tire them out..gotta take that away..gotta take away bush
September 13th, 2012 at 9:52 pm
Hou scored all of their TDs on short drives after turnovers v. Mia last week. Mia returned a punt for TD & held Foster to 3yds/carry. Raiders will have a short week and a long trip.
This will not be an easy win. They will have to improve in many areas to secure a win Sun.
force turnovers
score TDs
run more effectively
make plays on special teams
September 13th, 2012 at 9:54 pm
The key will be our D. No doubt Tarver will throw a TON of looks and disguised coverages at Tannehill (who has very little experience as a pro-set QB). Combine that with our suddenly stout run defense, and we might pitch a shutout.
On offense, Knapp will no doubt open it up. Palmer will quickly remember why Moore is his favorite target, and this will open running lanes for DMAC.
Prediction: Raiders 27, Dolphins 10 (including a garbage time Dolphins TD).
September 13th, 2012 at 9:54 pm
Raiders 17
phins 3
September 13th, 2012 at 9:59 pm
Sure hope it turns out that way..but with us its never easy..
September 13th, 2012 at 10:02 pm
jesusraiderjim Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
Nice pic of 55 holdin his ball sack. Nothing shouts classy like grabbin the sack. Jesus grow up!
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dude, honestly who gives a sh!t
September 13th, 2012 at 10:02 pm
well, dam, not much to argue with here and a lot to agree with. I can live with that.
September 13th, 2012 at 10:03 pm
we need to open it up early and avoid momentum killers for our Offense..The streater fumble changed the whole game, that drive seemed scripted and well done by Knapp, he needs to script another good one to start 7-0 and put tannehill in catch up mode, then its sack/pic city..lol would love to see pat lee with a pic in this one..
September 13th, 2012 at 10:03 pm
Andre Johnson had big numbers though. A WR must come up big. I’d like to see DHB make some big plays in these next 3 games while D. Wow gets his lungs back in shape. Streater, Hagan and the TEs can keep the chains moving. Maybe DMc can get down to 35-40% of the offense this week. I want to see him play in Jan.
September 13th, 2012 at 10:03 pm
sorry I came in just after burn 209.
September 13th, 2012 at 10:08 pm
It was good to see Streater respond well after that fumble. He protected the ball perfectly each time he caught the ball after that costly mistake.
Taiwan on the other hand… & David Wilson for the Giants last Wed too
September 13th, 2012 at 10:08 pm
Honestly fellas..now..Dmoore needs to be our guy for the future..He’s the only one left hahaha..i thought ford was it too..but moore really gotta be it..the next cliff branch
September 13th, 2012 at 10:11 pm
We are going to have to target Jimmy Wilson and prove he doesn’t belong as a cover corner in the league. Sean Smith has proven he does belong. The Fish safeties might be vulnerable, but there front seven is pretty bullet proof.
September 13th, 2012 at 10:13 pm
6) Overall: We cant put Palmer in catch up mode early on! Our RUN DEFENSE (like last week) has to take away their run, without a run game i don’t see how we can lose to tannehill..Get up on them early, pound the rock, then kill em with play-action!! Oh yeah one more thing….Knapp….Screens to REECE/DMAC/JONES please..
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Well done!
September 13th, 2012 at 10:13 pm
Not much time tonight babies,..heres my score prediction,…might have changed a bit since last time,..but this prediction will be real friggin close…Iv studied up on it babies,…I can assure you my score prediction will be the closest…ok, here we go…
Mia-34
Oak-6
Heres my icing on the cake as far as a subplot for this game,…it will be Miami`s only win of the year…by the way I will be at Candlestick Sunday night,..it will be one heck of a scene,…I was at the Raiders opener as you all know,..row one…it was like the morgue…hear ye hear ye hear ye,…the clock is ticking on Big Dummy,…that idiot will survive the year but come January, Big Dummy, and that clueless Allen will not make the trip to LA,…as far as Knapp goes, he will be in LA next year,..Kifins QB coach…nighty night!
September 13th, 2012 at 10:14 pm
I wish we had more than just inside/outside zone…it’s like having sasha grey as your girlfriend and just going missionary with no oral/anal involved..it’s just wrong..
September 13th, 2012 at 10:25 pm
Thec Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 8:50 pm
http://blog.sfgate.com/raiders/2012/09/13/mckenzie-says-raiders-have-no-interest-in-burress-johnson-or-owens/
Regarding the current WRs
“It starts with a foundation and you have to have the guys around long enough to develop and see that development,” McKenzie said.
Hagan will only be 28 soon. I hope this unit stays together for a while. D.Wow will have to be that clear #1 beast though. Ausberry has to be a legit red zone threat by week 12 or a new athletic TE will be on the wish list
September 13th, 2012 at 10:28 pm
prediction…
Raiders 17 – 16 mia
Seabass to the rescue.
As I’ve stated
2-2 (1-1)
is a good start going into the bye week
even with ugly wins… & Im out
September 13th, 2012 at 11:06 pm
Fins 28 / Oakland 10
September 13th, 2012 at 11:11 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 10:13 pm
6) Overall: We cant put Palmer in catch up mode early on! Our RUN DEFENSE (like last week) has to take away their run, without a run game i don’t see how we can lose to tannehill..Get up on them early, pound the rock, then kill em with play-action!! Oh yeah one more thing….Knapp….Screens to REECE/DMAC/JONES please..
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Lol, who would even write such drivel? Raiders can’t tell their azzes from their helmets, and we are supposed to do all that, just like we were supposed to handle SD.
September 13th, 2012 at 11:13 pm
jimmyball12 Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 10:08 pm
Honestly fellas..now..Dmoore needs to be our guy for the future..He’s the only one left hahaha..i thought ford was it too..but moore really gotta be it..the next cliff branch
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Hmmmmmm………we have to get Moore’s narrow butt off the pine before that happens: a gargantuan task!
September 13th, 2012 at 11:15 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 10:11 pm
We are going to have to target Jimmy Wilson and prove he doesn’t belong as a cover corner in the league. Sean Smith has proven he does belong. The Fish safeties might be vulnerable, but there front seven is pretty bullet proof.
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Oh yeah we have to prove up Jimmy Wilson doesn’t belong in the NFL. Hmmmmmmm…..I thought we were going to do that to Philip Rivers.
We be lucky just to complete a long snap: one step at a time.
September 13th, 2012 at 11:17 pm
Raider J Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 10:03 pm
Andre Johnson had big numbers though. A WR must come up big. I’d like to see DHB make some big plays in these next 3 games while D. Wow gets his lungs back in shape. Streater, Hagan and the TEs can keep the chains moving. Maybe DMc can get down to 35-40% of the offense this week. I want to see him play in Jan.
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Good luck accomplishing that!
September 13th, 2012 at 11:19 pm
jimmyball12 Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 10:03 pm
we need to open it up early and avoid momentum killers for our Offense..The streater fumble changed the whole game, that drive seemed scripted and well done by Knapp, he needs to script another good one to start 7-0 and put tannehill in catch up mode, then its sack/pic city..lol would love to see pat lee with a pic in this one..
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Knapp, covered in a cold sweat, hiding in his papers and gamebook on the sidelines: Oh yeah, he’ll put together a GREAT scoring drive.
September 13th, 2012 at 11:21 pm
jesusraiderjim Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
Nice pic of 55 holdin his ball sack. Nothing shouts classy like grabbin the sack. Jesus grow up!
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Surprised he didn’t suck himself off; it’s about all he’s good for!
September 13th, 2012 at 11:23 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 9:54 pm
The key will be our D. No doubt Tarver will throw a TON of looks and disguised coverages at Tannehill (who has very little experience as a pro-set QB). Combine that with our suddenly stout run defense, and we might pitch a shutout.
On offense, Knapp will no doubt open it up. Palmer will quickly remember why Moore is his favorite target, and this will open running lanes for DMAC.
Prediction: Raiders 27, Dolphins 10 (including a garbage time Dolphins TD).
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Dude is high on LSD to think any of that will happen. Don’t you have something more creative to do than devise and post crap like that??
September 13th, 2012 at 11:24 pm
The Jerry Mac interview with Reggie is fascinating.
September 13th, 2012 at 11:31 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 11:24 pm
The Jerry Mac interview with Reggie is fascinating.
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Fascinating?
Please explain….
September 13th, 2012 at 11:38 pm
He talks about the pros and cons of the scheme. Look it up.
September 13th, 2012 at 11:42 pm
I’ve read it…although I didn’t find it fascinating…..I would describe it as disappointing….
September 13th, 2012 at 11:44 pm
The fact that he felt it was necessary to speak to the media in any capacity regarding anything whatsoever speaks volumes in my opinion.
September 13th, 2012 at 11:48 pm
“The true genius shudders at incompleteness – and usually prefers silence to saying something which is not everything it should be.”
-Poe-
September 13th, 2012 at 11:55 pm
If Mr Davis was alive he would pull Reggie into his office and say…..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5m4jpUyb-g
September 13th, 2012 at 11:59 pm
Knapp sold Reggie a bill of goods regarding the scheme same as a used car salesman sells someone a car with the odometer turned over once.
Now Reggie is so far into it he can’t back out. He has plenty of praise for it in the interview with Jerry. Of course Jerry has no balls and won’t ask any tough questions since there will be no interviews if he does.
I hate it when a GM lies right to our faces same as the head coach. Hue did it too.
I suppose they think we are idiots and will keep shelling out hundreds of dollars for tickets, Raider memorabilia/gear no matter what kind of product they churn out.
It’s no way to have a new stadium built.
September 14th, 2012 at 12:03 am
The ZBS WILL WORK IT takes aLot of time guys
September 14th, 2012 at 12:07 am
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I have no PERSONAL vendetta against Greg Knapp. He may have helped an old lady cross the street yesterday. He may bake pies for elderly people in the hospital. My gripe with him is purely PROFESSIONAL!
The entire transition of the offense was handled improperly.
The majority of our weapons on offense including the QB were drafted or acquired using the Al Davis, vertical, stretch the field, power scheme philosophy.
We do not have the player personnel to fully implement what Knapp is trying to do!
Saunders should have been made the OC with Knapp as HIS adviser, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND!!!
Then Knapp’s plan could be slowly integrated over the next season or two as we acquire the best players to implement that scheme!
This entire thing was handled completely AZZ BACKWARDS from the start!!!
Make Al Saunders the primary play caller and reassign Greg Knapp to QB coach to help Terrelle Pryor develop!!
This is the most logical thing to do to get optimum performance from our players, preserve team continuity, and still have a chance to win the division!!!
September 14th, 2012 at 12:42 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
We jinxed ourselves by firing Huejax now its biting us in the ass. All Hue bashers are now getting what they deserve to bad I gotta suffer with you.
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In the days when Mark Davis’ haircut was in style, Hue would have been beheaded for treason. Hue Jack is lucky he has job.
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i still refer to him as markus davicus
September 14th, 2012 at 12:49 am
makus davicus looks like a guy i’ve seen hanging outside of a tavern smoking a cig.
September 14th, 2012 at 1:00 am
by the way, u heard it here first. ford will be put on the IR and franzies will be activated by sunday. in one move, they help with CB depth and KO return. when asked about kick return, DA replid that they had goodson and franzies ready. that’s a practice squad player he’s saying is ready. so, there u go.
September 14th, 2012 at 1:27 am
Jimmyball12 Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 7:24 pm
i wish we could go back and see how many of those 9-7/8-8 teams we had from 85 to 94 were only one or two penalties/plays away from making it to the playoffs..and perhaps winning the afc…we always had mad talent..if dokie williams doesnt drop that mark wilson pass on 4th and 20 against the Pats in 85 we may have been in the SB…(not to mention the B.S holding call the play b4 when Allen took a dump down pass 30 yds to get into FG range)…the refs loved screwin us didnt they??
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The refs cost us a ton of wins over the years.
It’s no wonder our players expect and find ways to lose.
September 14th, 2012 at 1:30 am
MaddenRaiderisadouchebag Says:
The only agenda I have is making sure a POS coordinator like Knapp is never on this team. You keep giving this bullish!t “players have to execute” line. For 3/4 of his OC career, players have NOT executed for this retard, plus he could always move the ball & never FU**king score. Until the NFL changes the rules and scores games by TOP & yardage totals, he will be as worthless as an azzhole on my elbow. I’m so sorry you consider my studying of history and coming to deduction that this guy fu**ing sucks as an OC as an “agenda.”.
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Yeah, another agenda post. Way to ignore the facts.
How was Knapps offense when he had Vick in Atlanta? oh yeah, wasnt that back when Vick ADMITS to not studying the playbook? Lets lynch Knapp for that.
And lets totally hold Knapp responsible for his first stint here where we had the talent of of a JC squad.
But lets not give Knapp ANY credit for the fact that OUR PLAYERS and a long snapper injury cost us the game on Monday Night.
No amount of play-calling will make up for players that cant deliver the goods.
September 14th, 2012 at 1:45 am
Raider Riff Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 1:30 am
Yeah, another agenda post. Way to ignore the facts.
How was Knapps offense when he had Vick in Atlanta? oh yeah, wasnt that back when Vick ADMITS to not studying the playbook? Lets lynch Knapp for that.
And lets totally hold Knapp responsible for his first stint here where we had the talent of of a JC squad.
But lets not give Knapp ANY credit for the fact that OUR PLAYERS and a long snapper injury cost us the game on Monday Night.
No amount of play-calling will make up for players that cant deliver the goods.
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He totally ignored the tight end Brandon Myers for 95% of the game. He completely ignored Marcel Reece and very poorly and ineffectively used Darren Mcfadden.
Even Mcfadden was visibly frustrated and was exhibiting body language that I have NEVER seen from him on the football field before.
What more do you need to see? Mcfadden injured by week 3? Our defense worn out because they are on the field too much due to a lack of consistent offensive production?
September 14th, 2012 at 1:48 am
Raider Riff Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 1:30 am
Yeah, another agenda post. Way to ignore the facts.
How was Knapps offense when he had Vick in Atlanta? oh yeah, wasnt that back when Vick ADMITS to not studying the playbook? Lets lynch Knapp for that.
And lets totally hold Knapp responsible for his first stint here where we had the talent of of a JC squad.
But lets not give Knapp ANY credit for the fact that OUR PLAYERS and a long snapper injury cost us the game on Monday Night.
No amount of play-calling will make up for players that cant deliver the goods.
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Oh I see….Let’s just wait and see. Just like we waited for Bresnehan after the Buffalo game. And then again after the Detroit game. And in several more games after that.
I don’t need to see anymore. The defense has caught up to respectability. The offense has regressed. If you don’t call a 2.1 yard average for a HEALTHY Mcfadden a complete REGRESSION, then I don’t know what to tell you.
And it ain’t like the Chargers have the Ravens or 49ers defense against the run either!
September 14th, 2012 at 1:52 am
ArmChair GM Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 1:45 am
Raider Riff Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 1:30 am
Yeah, another agenda post. Way to ignore the facts.
How was Knapps offense when he had Vick in Atlanta? oh yeah, wasnt that back when Vick ADMITS to not studying the playbook? Lets lynch Knapp for that.
And lets totally hold Knapp responsible for his first stint here where we had the talent of of a JC squad.
But lets not give Knapp ANY credit for the fact that OUR PLAYERS and a long snapper injury cost us the game on Monday Night.
No amount of play-calling will make up for players that cant deliver the goods.
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He totally ignored the tight end Brandon Myers for 95% of the game. He completely ignored Marcel Reece and very poorly and ineffectively used Darren Mcfadden.
Even Mcfadden was visibly frustrated and was exhibiting body language that I have NEVER seen from him on the football field before.
What more do you need to see? Mcfadden injured by week 3? Our defense worn out because they are on the field too much due to a lack of consistent offensive production?
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He didnt ignore Meyers. CP3 missed Meyers open on a couple plays. CP3 has a tendency to go with who he knows and he was feeling it with Streater and sorta zero’ing in on him. But Meyers was getting open, CP3 just missed looking his way. NOT KNAPPS FAULT.
Marcel Reece couldnt handle a simple toss on a reverse and missed significant OTA time of when the offense and special packages were installed. His fault. And NOT THE REASON WE LOST THE GAME.
The right plays were being called for the situations. Players were fumbling, jumping offsides, not blocking, and dropping game changing passes. That would happen no matter who was the OC.
But keep ignoring that. It’s what people with an agenda do.
Im NOT a Knapp fan but I have two sets of eyes and know when a coach is calling the right plays.
September 14th, 2012 at 1:56 am
ArmChair GM Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 1:48 am
Raider Riff Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 1:30 am
Yeah, another agenda post. Way to ignore the facts.
How was Knapps offense when he had Vick in Atlanta? oh yeah, wasnt that back when Vick ADMITS to not studying the playbook? Lets lynch Knapp for that.
And lets totally hold Knapp responsible for his first stint here where we had the talent of of a JC squad.
But lets not give Knapp ANY credit for the fact that OUR PLAYERS and a long snapper injury cost us the game on Monday Night.
No amount of play-calling will make up for players that cant deliver the goods.
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Oh I see….Let’s just wait and see. Just like we waited for Bresnehan after the Buffalo game. And then again after the Detroit game. And in several more games after that.
I don’t need to see anymore. The defense has caught up to respectability. The offense has regressed. If you don’t call a 2.1 yard average for a HEALTHY Mcfadden a complete REGRESSION, then I don’t know what to tell you.
And it ain’t like the Chargers have the Ravens or 49ers defense against the run either!
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Bres was the problem. No doubt. His/Al’s scheme sucked. Tarver is proving that right now.
But our offense has not regressed. Our players still make the same dumb mistakes. If DHB doesnt fumble against the Lions, we win that game. If McFadden doesnt fumble against Buffalo, we win that game.
We continually shoot ourselves in the feet. Stop placing the blame on coach’s when you dont have the slightest credentials to be evaluating their play calling.
You guys seriously forget just how frustrating Hue was at times.
The Chargers suck! Of course they arent the Ravens or 49ers. Which is why if Streater holds onto the ball, Kelly stays onsides, and Condo doesnt get hurt, we win in a landslide. Those were all preventable mistakes on our part that had NOTHING TO DO WITH OUR OC.
September 14th, 2012 at 2:05 am
It’s just amazing that Streater cost us a minimum of 3, Kelly gave them 7, and special teams spotted the dischargers 9 for a total of a 19 pt swing.
But that is somehow Knapps fault.
September 14th, 2012 at 2:07 am
u guys apparently need the good doctor to say it how it is. forget about knapp getting fired. won’t happen. not for now anyway. it would take 4 horrendous games for him to be stripped of his playcalling duties. the raiders as an organization have committed to these coaches and schemes.
as for my opinion, i do feel the playcalling lacked adjustments. he seemed to keep calling the same plays as if there were only a few available. but i need to see more.
the wr corp was missing one of it’s good players, and the o-line was porous. we’ll see if the addition of moore and wiz, and a week of “fixing things” will help.
i was disappointed for sure. but perhaps we have to give some credit to the chargers for playing well. their defense seemed to be doing the right things to stop mcfadden and the deep throws, and got a lot pressure on the pocket.
September 14th, 2012 at 2:41 am
The keys to beating the Fins as I see it:
- Win the turnover battle (we didnt do this against SD)
- Mistake free ST play (we didnt do this against SD)
- No stupid penalties on 3rd down (we didnt do this against SD)
We do those three things and we will win, just like we should’ve against the dischargers.
September 14th, 2012 at 3:03 am
Additional keys worth noting…
- Continued stellar LB play
- Continued stellar CP3 play
- Continued DMC health
Keys to a blowout win…all of the above plus:
- Better O-Line play in the run game
- Continued solid O-Line play like we saw in the first half
- WR’s making big time plays
- CP3 use his TE a bit more
September 14th, 2012 at 3:42 am
Riff, you can add: get Reece more touches in the passing game.
September 14th, 2012 at 3:58 am
I’m not ready to give Reggie or DA any credit as being better than anything Al Davis did or didn’t do…UNTIL they win a football game….
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@DJG
so..Sunday, then?
September 14th, 2012 at 4:04 am
Bcz, Jhill, Hwnrdr & Mike ::
whats up gents?
thanks for the shout outs. I’ve been doing well. Just working hard trying to make a bigger impression
rumor has it, we may hire for that Supervisor position next month and i’m cerainly in the running. I was blogging during the SD game
Miss you guys. Hope you’re all doing well
Predictions??
Dirty Pirates 10
Tuna 3
September 14th, 2012 at 4:09 am
I called it this offseason ..
Benson isn’t just better than Goodson, he’s better than Bush!
September 14th, 2012 at 4:26 am
GM: No Plaxico Burress, Chad Johnson, T.O. for Raiders
By Gregg Rosenthal
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000062008/article/raiders-gm-we-wont-sign-plaxico-chad-or-to?module=HP11_headline_stack
have a great day fellers!
September 14th, 2012 at 4:33 am
Carl Weathers Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 3:42 am
Riff, you can add: get Reece more touches in the passing game.
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I would but Im not sure it is necessary or even possible. Reece missed enough of the offseason to where it might be a few more games before his special packages are installed, if at all.
September 14th, 2012 at 4:54 am
Actually, I may have mispoke a little. While there werent any SPECIFIC plays designed for Reece, he was heavily involved in the passing game.
Im watching the game right now for the 4th time, the coachs tape, endzone footage. And Im noticing that Reece was open on a few passing routes. Just like I noticed earlier that Meyers was.
CP3 was just zero’d in on his WRs early. He hit all of them on the opening drive. Even on the plays where he didnt go Reece or Meyers way, he still hit other wide open WR’s.
SanDiusky had no answer for our passing game. Not from what Im seeing on this film.
September 14th, 2012 at 4:54 am
Pretty epic meltdown by Cutler last night. He was throwing pics like Lindsay gets DUIs. Hitting his LT and yelling at him. Kicking Woodson, and he was getting sacked like a bag of potatoes.
September 14th, 2012 at 5:01 am
Whats the O/U on number of games before Mistic calls for Jason Campbell to start over Cutler?
September 14th, 2012 at 5:05 am
Raider Riff Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 2:41 am
The keys to beating the Fins as I see it:
- Win the turnover battle (we didnt do this against SD)
- Mistake free ST play (we didnt do this against SD)
- No stupid penalties on 3rd down (we didnt do this against SD)
We do those three things and we will win, just like we should’ve against the dischargers.
Additional keys worth noting…
- Continued stellar LB play
- Continued stellar CP3 play
- Continued DMC health
Keys to a blowout win…all of the above plus:
- Better O-Line play in the run game
- Continued solid O-Line play like we saw in the first half
- WR’s making big time plays
- CP3 use his TE a bit more
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Players that need to have “bounce-back” games and show us something positive
- Khalif Barnes
- Tommy Kelly
- DHB (make the big play son)
- Jones (settle down)
- Reece (do your job)
- Sho-nasty (show up)
- Houston (make just one impact play)
September 14th, 2012 at 5:16 am
I have always liked putzhead a little bit. I have even plunkdicted that he would be a Raider someday. But after last night I hope he never becomes a Raider.
That was sad, but so was the packers. The entire game sucked. The plauers are getting away with stuff that makes the other side mad and players are both sides were acting bad and getting in refs faces. The regular refs would have tossed some players last night
Lots of disrespect there. Made for a sad affair IMO unless I am blowing it out of proportion.
Did anyone else see what I saw?
September 14th, 2012 at 5:21 am
The bears are a dam good team and they just imploded everywhere. Makes our game last week look great by comparision.
Just more proof that last week was a fluke.
Raiders will come back strong Sunday
September 14th, 2012 at 5:27 am
Gotta do more then get the ball to our playmaker.
Was that the most touches DMAC has had in a game? He got the ball all over the field, in the air and on the ground.
Only problem is they were able to key on him and shut him down. I hope to never see that again.
Look for Moore to make all the diff in the world opening up DMAC to knapple the fins to death
September 14th, 2012 at 5:35 am
Plunketthead Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 5:21 am
The bears are a dam good team and they just imploded everywhere. Makes our game last week look great by comparision.
Just more proof that last week was a fluke.
Raiders will come back strong Sunday
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I hope youre right. Our division might not be better than in any of the past couple years.
But at some point we gotta stop banking on 9-7 backing us in.
But your point is valid, everyone was ready to hand the Bears the NFC title after week 1 against a really really bad Indy squad. Now look at them.
What they say is right, misery loves company. I do feel a little better knowing that all of Chi-town is as miserable as we are at the moment.
September 14th, 2012 at 5:37 am
Plunketthead Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 5:16 am
I have always liked putzhead a little bit. I have even plunkdicted that he would be a Raider someday. But after last night I hope he never becomes a Raider.
That was sad, but so was the packers. The entire game sucked. The plauers are getting away with stuff that makes the other side mad and players are both sides were acting bad and getting in refs faces. The regular refs would have tossed some players last night
Lots of disrespect there. Made for a sad affair IMO unless I am blowing it out of proportion.
Did anyone else see what I saw?
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Yeah, I’ve seen a lot of plays that would have been flagged with regular refs.
September 14th, 2012 at 5:41 am
RGII is still available in Klas 6 team league. Can’t wait to cut Cutler and pick him up.
September 14th, 2012 at 5:46 am
Players were in the refs faces most of the game. I should have made myself clear on that as the part of disrespect.
Argueing calls, pointing fingers, pushing each other into the refs, getting in refs faces, etc.
They need to learn to clean that up quick, cant let the players push them around
September 14th, 2012 at 5:47 am
If Marshall catches that pass in the end zone, I think it is a different game.
September 14th, 2012 at 5:49 am
Mayak was calling that implosion all night!! I think the bears must have knew something about cutler when they brought in JCampbell..With a running game and that defense..Campbell actually fits that team better!!
September 14th, 2012 at 6:01 am
Keys to Sunday is to do just what the chargers did to us, focus on Reggie Bush. Lock in on and shut down their best player and Jano could kick FG’s all day, we should still win.
September 14th, 2012 at 6:12 am
GB vs CHI was similar to our divisional game on Monday..^ the marshall catch/streater fumble kinda are the same thing..CHI like us was in the game for a while..ugly game
September 14th, 2012 at 6:16 am
That Reggie interview was fairly interesting.
He didn’t seem to think Plax, TO or Ocho could even help the team, and especially for more than one year.
Interesting take on the ZBS as well. Says defensive players “hate” playing against it, and that we still run some player plays in between the stretch, ZBS stuff.
September 14th, 2012 at 6:20 am
And you can read between the lines on his take on DVD.
Said he had tons of talent, but felt like going another direction. Basically, DVD is a dumbazz he didn’t feel like baby-sitting.
September 14th, 2012 at 6:21 am
549.Just Fire Baby Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 6:20 am
And you can read between the lines on his take on DVD.
Said he had tons of talent, but felt like going another direction. Basically, DVD is a dumbazz he didn’t feel like baby-sitting.
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Breath of fresh air. Too much babysitting over the years.
Mornin’ Nation
September 14th, 2012 at 6:22 am
535.Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 5:01 am
Whats the O/U on number of games before Mistic calls for Jason Campbell to start over Cutler?
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The first time he shows up today he’ll say something about it
September 14th, 2012 at 6:23 am
Jimmyball12 Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 5:49 am
Mayak was calling that implosion all night!! I think the bears must have knew something about cutler when they brought in JCampbell..With a running game and that defense..Campbell actually fits that team better!!
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Cutler is VERY good.
Chicago has one of the worst O-Lines in football. Their GM neglected it for years. That org in general has never known how to take care of a QB and it is showing once again.
I said they’d only go as far as their O-Line would take them and so far, my preseason analysis is correct.
September 14th, 2012 at 6:24 am
Where is the guy that was telling me Hanson would be the starter ahead of Pat Lee?
Where are you????????
September 14th, 2012 at 6:24 am
RRS,
Go get that supervisor position, mayne. Then since you’ll be the boss you can come back and hang out with the semis again
September 14th, 2012 at 6:28 am
Morning Nation!!
Just read a USA today article that Reggie says NO to signing Plax, Ocho, or TO.
It’s Reggie’s way or the highway…..
September 14th, 2012 at 6:29 am
The Bears O-line has been awful for years, and they managed to host a NFC championship game.
Of course……the QB got killed and hurt in that game, lol.
September 14th, 2012 at 6:30 am
Was very impressed by Packer defense last night.
September 14th, 2012 at 6:34 am
Not sure why it is such news that The Reggie is saying no to those 3 clowns.
The WHOLE LEAGUE is saying no to them.
September 14th, 2012 at 6:38 am
GOOD MORNING NATION !!
and my GreenParty brothers !!
September 14th, 2012 at 6:38 am
Packers O-line isn’t so hot either.
They got a 5th round pick at LT who looks overwhelmed a lot of the time.
September 14th, 2012 at 6:40 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Happy Aloha Friday! Funny is that this is only my first full day at work this week and off to another weekend!
September 14th, 2012 at 6:40 am
Raider Riff Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 6:23 am
Jimmyball12 Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 5:49 am
Mayak was calling that implosion all night!! I think the bears must have knew something about cutler when they brought in JCampbell..With a running game and that defense..Campbell actually fits that team better!!
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Cutler is VERY good.
Chicago has one of the worst O-Lines in football. Their GM neglected it for years. That org in general has never known how to take care of a QB and it is showing once again.
I said they’d only go as far as their O-Line would take them and so far, my preseason analysis is correct.
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You’re right, their O-line is atrocious! Ours was at one time too, Campbell is an underrated runner with deceptive speed. IMO I think he is a better fit for them right now, but I do agree 100% with you. Campbell is built for a conservative team with a good defense.
September 14th, 2012 at 6:40 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 6:38 am
Packers O-line isn’t so hot either.
They got a 5th round pick at LT who looks overwhelmed a lot of the time.
Yeah, Rodgers did get sacked 5 times as well!
September 14th, 2012 at 6:42 am
Funniest line of the night…
When asked if he knew that he would have tis kind of night, Jay Cutler says, “Yeah, I dream of getting sacked 7 times and throwing 4 picks”…LOL
September 14th, 2012 at 6:43 am
Cutler must have forgot to take his insulin..poor guy
September 14th, 2012 at 6:45 am
Some more interesting Reggie quotes:
“Corner is one of those deals where some guys want to take chances and try and make a play and do something outside of the defense, and that’s something we don’t want them to do.”
In other words, don’t expect to see any Asante Samuel or DeAngelo Hall types brought in while Reggie is in charge. No gamblers. Stick with your man/cover your zone.
RE: the ZBS “If they continue to work at execution it’ll be fine. It’s not a simple scheme”
Translation: they’re new to this and should get better as the season progresses.
I feel a little better after reading that. Of course I’ll feel a LOT better after I actually see progress.
September 14th, 2012 at 7:00 am
Some really good matchups this weekend aside from the 2 primetime games. 2 upsets I may lay some coin on:
I like Carolina to beat the Saints. N.O. couldn’t contain RG3 and I expect the same trouble with Cam along with their run game they should bounce back big against that soft D.
The chefs are in a real good spot here with players returning to the lineup and the Bills losing top RB & #2 WR. They did well to keep up with Atl for the first 35 minutes and the Bills are just a 6-10 team with a larger payroll and now an injured offense.
Parlay these 2 with the Raiders and that’s a nice payday!
September 14th, 2012 at 7:10 am
Are the Lakers playing yet?
September 14th, 2012 at 7:24 am
So we possibly get back DMoore this week.
If DMoore starts, we have a reliable (with the exception of his fumble) guy in Streater and Hagan soaking up the playbook and learning much more, where does DHB fit in?
I think Hagan will get more playing time and Streater deserves to get plenty of snaps.
DHB should be used at what he does best. Bubble screens, reverse, curls/hooks and anything underneath. Use that big body to shield the defender.
I’m interested to see how Knapp uses all 4 of these guys when all available.
The entire load should not be on McFaddens shoulders. Knapp needs to get creative with these wr’s.
September 14th, 2012 at 7:28 am
I hope we see more 3wr sets sunday, DHB MOORE STREATER/HAGAN..take a guy out of the box, help out dmac
September 14th, 2012 at 7:32 am
I said this before but Ford’s season is certainly over. That surgery requires the patient to be off of their feet for 6 to 12 weeks. There is zero chance that he will be back this year after not putting weight on that foot for that long and then trying to get back into football shape.
September 14th, 2012 at 7:42 am
its a damn shame we never will have Palmer/dmc/dhb/ford/moore/reece all on the field at the same time, that was my dream! And i thought this year was it!!!! Get better Jacoby!!
September 14th, 2012 at 7:45 am
Raider Riff Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 6:23 am
Jimmyball12 Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 5:49 am
Mayak was calling that implosion all night!! I think the bears must have knew something about cutler when they brought in JCampbell..With a running game and that defense..Campbell actually fits that team better!!
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Cutler is VERY good.
Chicago has one of the worst O-Lines in football. Their GM neglected it for years. That org in general has never known how to take care of a QB and it is showing once again.
I said they’d only go as far as their O-Line would take them and so far, my preseason analysis is correct.
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I don’t know if it’s entirely fair to say they have neglected the O-Line all these yrs.
They DID draft Chris Williams in the first rd. Turned out to be a bust and they have made a few moves, but you’re right..not much in the last few yrs.
I just think they arent that great at judging oline talent.
They know they need to protect Cutler and I think they “feel” they are doing that…
After last night…i’m sure they realize they haven’t done enough.
September 14th, 2012 at 7:49 am
I’m interested to see how Knapp uses all 4 of these guys when all available.
The entire load should not be on McFaddens shoulders. Knapp needs to get creative with these wr’s.
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Haven’t you heard?
Knapp is doing a great job, and you should blame the players for our lack of scoring.
You People…..
LOL
September 14th, 2012 at 7:50 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 6:34 am
Not sure why it is such news that The Reggie is saying no to those 3 clowns.
The WHOLE LEAGUE is saying no to them.
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Old habits die hard. If AD was still here we’d already have two of these three signed.
We’re not used to wise spending.
September 14th, 2012 at 7:50 am
I bet Cork is soaking up all this Bear talk this fine Friday morning. Ahhhhh yes
September 14th, 2012 at 7:51 am
Oh my. Chicago sports radio this morning just roasting Cutler and the Bears…
It went from ” Super Bowl here we come” after last wk. to “we’re in big trouble” today.
That’s how this league is and u guys know this. Each game carries so much importance no matter what your record is. Even if you’re 10-4 and clinched a playoff spot, you’re fighting for a bye or home field.
Raiders are in a true MUST WIN situation. If we go 0-2 with Pitt. Den. and ATl. coming up? We’re essentially done.
Huuuuge game in Miami. Raiders put themselves in this spot by farting away the SD game. EACH GAME in this league…the way it’s set up is just huge.
September 14th, 2012 at 7:53 am
Jimmyball12 Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 6:40 am
Raider Riff Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 6:23 am
Jimmyball12 Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 5:49 am
Mayak was calling that implosion all night!! I think the bears must have knew something about cutler when they brought in JCampbell..With a running game and that defense..Campbell actually fits that team better!!
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Cutler is VERY good.
Chicago has one of the worst O-Lines in football. Their GM neglected it for years. That org in general has never known how to take care of a QB and it is showing once again.
I said they’d only go as far as their O-Line would take them and so far, my preseason analysis is correct.
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You’re right, their O-line is atrocious! Ours was at one time too, Campbell is an underrated runner with deceptive speed. IMO I think he is a better fit for them right now, but I do agree 100% with you. Campbell is built for a conservative team with a good defense.
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Campbell is NOT a better fit for them right now, or ever.
Campbell, like Kerry Collins needs an superior O-Line to be effective. So he can sit back and survey the field and have 8 seconds for his ultra slow wind up and release.
If your O-Line is poor, the quickness in which you can ge the ball from your hip into the air is paramount. Cutler has one of the fastest releases in the game, its his only saving grace with that team.
Campbell would get killed in no time just like he did with us.
September 14th, 2012 at 7:55 am
Why does it have to be one or the other (coaches/players) to get the blame?
Don’t they all deserve it? Knapp needs to do better, STreater needs to not fumble, DHB needs to run the right route, McFadden needs to break more tackles than he did Monday, Jones needs to sack up, and our O-line needs to pass protect better.
I am sure Knapp didn’t dial up a play that asks for Barnes to let his man blow right past him.
September 14th, 2012 at 7:55 am
Johnny,
As far as this Miami game being HUGE, I dunno about that. After last Monday’s humiliating loss to a lesser team on national TV, it’s hard to sip the koolaid. It’s got no sugar in it all. Just tastes like schit now. Sorry, I got nuthin. Hope and change…hope and change baby.
September 14th, 2012 at 7:57 am
DJ Johnny Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 7:51 am
Oh my. Chicago sports radio this morning just roasting Cutler and the Bears…
It went from ” Super Bowl here we come” after last wk. to “we’re in big trouble” today.
That’s how this league is and u guys know this. Each game carries so much importance no matter what your record is. Even if you’re 10-4 and clinched a playoff spot, you’re fighting for a bye or home field.
Raiders are in a true MUST WIN situation. If we go 0-2 with Pitt. Den. and ATl. coming up? We’re essentially done.
Huuuuge game in Miami. Raiders put themselves in this spot by farting away the SD game. EACH GAME in this league…the way it’s set up is just huge.
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Word.
And the Bears are in a much more difficult division than us.
They can afford to split their series with the Pack tho. Unlike us who needed to sweep SanDusky.
I dont think its so much the fact that they lost, its how they lost. They got embarrassed. We got embarrassed but their situation is slightly different than our situation.
September 14th, 2012 at 7:58 am
Same with this Goethel LS thing.
Just because the coaches failed to let him practice it during actual practice, what he just can say screw it and never do it?
What if Pryor came into the game and needed a half to warm up, because he hasn’t actually thrown a football in months, because he didn’t get any practice reps?
Ridiculous!!!!
September 14th, 2012 at 8:00 am
Until they announce that Knapp is stripped of playcalling and let Saunders rule the offense, I’m convinced we will be playing to 50% of our max throttle. We’ll be dumbing down our entire offense to a potential ceiling of 20 points per game and crossing our fingers that the defense can play lights out every game.
September 14th, 2012 at 8:01 am
I overestimated our team this yr. When i actually looked at the schedule and see who we have to be better than…man..it’s tough.
We could actually have a pretty good team and STILL go 9-7 8-8 with the level of competition.
We have to beat some really good teams to make the playoffs. If we do make it, it means we really earned it.
It starts with Miami. I wish I could share some of the blog’s optimism in regard to going into a place we rarely win, against a team we rarely beat.
Makes me nervous even watching this game Sunday.
September 14th, 2012 at 8:02 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 7:55 am
Why does it have to be one or the other (coaches/players) to get the blame?
Don’t they all deserve it? Knapp needs to do better, STreater needs to not fumble, DHB needs to run the right route, McFadden needs to break more tackles than he did Monday, Jones needs to sack up, and our O-line needs to pass protect better.
I am sure Knapp didn’t dial up a play that asks for Barnes to let his man blow right past him.
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Because everything you just listed was something the players screwed up.
Ive watched the game 4 times now. Watch it again and tell me you still think Knapp or any of the other coaches could have done anything differently.
Im tired of listing all the mistakes our guys made that cost us the game. You know what they are. Its easy for us to see where the players fumbled, jumped offsides, or dropped passes.
It’s pretty hard for any of us to critique the playcalling when we’re here and they are getting paid to do their job. This isnt even close to the Chucky B situation. Most on this blog have never even played let alone coached. They got no insight or credentials to be critiquing the playcalling when their are so many OBVIOUS mistakes the players made.
September 14th, 2012 at 8:02 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 7:55 am
Why does it have to be one or the other (coaches/players) to get the blame?
Don’t they all deserve it? Knapp needs to do better, STreater needs to not fumble, DHB needs to run the right route, McFadden needs to break more tackles than he did Monday, Jones needs to sack up, and our O-line needs to pass protect better.
I am sure Knapp didn’t dial up a play that asks for Barnes to let his man blow right past him.
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Players made mistakes, but you CAN’T blame the players for Knapp’s issues with scoring on 4 different teams.
ATL
Oak
Seattle
Oak
September 14th, 2012 at 8:03 am
Ill prepared players, sloppy penalties, mental mistakes, bad in-game management and playcalling.
The more things change the more they stay the same. Welcome your new bosses, same as the old ones. I was actually thinking this would all change. Buying the change to accountability credo of the new REGGIME.
How is Allen not accountable for making damn sure that we have a credible backup LS in place? That was a deer-in-the-headlights moment for the rookie coach. Norv Turner even feels sorry for him.
September 14th, 2012 at 8:06 am
But WTF do I know.. I never player college football and I don’t coach football.
Mental ability has nothing to do with it, and it’s all about experience.
A dumb bastard who played football because he runs fast knows more about it than a smart fan who has been watching it for decades.
September 14th, 2012 at 8:07 am
DJ Johnny Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 8:01 am
I overestimated our team this yr. When i actually looked at the schedule and see who we have to be better than…man..it’s tough.
We could actually have a pretty good team and STILL go 9-7 8-8 with the level of competition.
We have to beat some really good teams to make the playoffs. If we do make it, it means we really earned it.
It starts with Miami. I wish I could share some of the blog’s optimism in regard to going into a place we rarely win, against a team we rarely beat.
Makes me nervous even watching this game Sunday.
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Now you are starting to see why I was freaking out yesterday. We were looking at 10-6 if we did everything right.
We cannot afford to lose games we are supposed to win. We already needed to win at least 2 of the 4 50-50 games this year.
Now we have to win a game we were supposed to lose. Take your pick.
Yeah, we should be nervous. We could be looking at season-over by the end of week two. We lose to the Fins and 0-5 here we come, game over. Full blog meltdown. Someone probably jumps off the bay bridge. The stadium is back to 1/3 capacity and the Raiders are moving to Los Angeles.
We have no margin for error right now.
September 14th, 2012 at 8:08 am
Raider O Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 8:02 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 7:55 am
Why does it have to be one or the other (coaches/players) to get the blame?
Don’t they all deserve it? Knapp needs to do better, STreater needs to not fumble, DHB needs to run the right route, McFadden needs to break more tackles than he did Monday, Jones needs to sack up, and our O-line needs to pass protect better.
I am sure Knapp didn’t dial up a play that asks for Barnes to let his man blow right past him.
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Players made mistakes, but you CAN’T blame the players for Knapp’s issues with scoring on 4 different teams.
ATL
Oak
Seattle
Oak
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ATL – Vick refused to study
Oak – We were a dumpster fire
Seattle – Tavarius Jackson
Oak – Ive already listed our numerous player mistakes.
September 14th, 2012 at 8:10 am
Raider O Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 8:06 am
But WTF do I know.. I never player college football and I don’t coach football.
Mental ability has nothing to do with it, and it’s all about experience.
A dumb bastard who played football because he runs fast knows more about it than a smart fan who has been watching it for decades.
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You have no problem listed your slanted view of Knapps alleged failures.
Now list your resume. What makes you such a football expert? Because youve watched decades of football? hahahahahahahaha. That is like saying you could run a TV network because you watch a lot of sitcoms.
September 14th, 2012 at 8:12 am
I wonder about Mark Davis’s motivation to this team. He inherited it, never having to work to build it or suffer thru the growing pains. This franchise was all of Al Davis’s lifeblood. He had a passion for his team. He poured his life into it. What does Mark have invested in it? Nothing. Nada. Zilch. He got a free sack of Monopoly money that fell out of the sky. He never had to sweat the details of understand the business. So it’s fair to call into question if he is ambivalent to even constructing a team the way his father did, with an out-and-out goal of being Champions. I don’t think that’s his goal. Just making money, tending the franchise till a good enough offer is on the table and he can cart away his dough and retire fat and lazy somewhere.
I know from personal experience how some businesses just fold up and vanish soon after the primary business developer passes away. Inheritance gets sent down, but nobody wants to work anymore to keep it running. People just want their payday, even if it’s pennies on the dollar. Anything to avoid having to get down and use some elbow grease.
September 14th, 2012 at 8:14 am
but you CAN’T blame the players for Knapp’s issues with scoring on 4 different teams.
ATL
Oak
Seattle
Oak
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I can’t blame Jamarcus for Knapp’s issue last time he was here?
Like Hell I can’t!!!!!!!
September 14th, 2012 at 8:15 am
I am pretty sure, everyone involved in the offense, from the staff to the players, looked in the mirror on Tuesday and realized they have to do better.
September 14th, 2012 at 8:16 am
Like I said before, only an ignorant monkey blames the talent/ players on 4 different teams and not the coach.
I guess you can teach/ coach football but you can’t teach logic and common sense
September 14th, 2012 at 8:17 am
4 different teams O?
So this season is already lumped in AFTER 1 GAME??
September 14th, 2012 at 8:19 am
Guest123 Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 8:12 am
I wonder about Mark Davis’s motivation to this team. He inherited it, never having to work to build it or suffer thru the growing pains. This franchise was all of Al Davis’s lifeblood. He had a passion for his team. He poured his life into it. What does Mark have invested in it? Nothing. Nada. Zilch.
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Mark’s NOT heavily emotionally invested in football. So he’s doing what he’s supposed to under the circumstances: bring in a solid football mind (Reggie Mac) and let HIM run the team. Nothing wrong with that at all.
September 14th, 2012 at 8:20 am
Guest123 Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 8:12 am
I wonder about Mark Davis’s motivation to this team. He inherited it, never having to work to build it or suffer thru the growing pains. This franchise was all of Al Davis’s lifeblood. He had a passion for his team. He poured his life into it. What does Mark have invested in it? Nothing. Nada. Zilch. He got a free sack of Monopoly money that fell out of the sky. He never had to sweat the details of understand the business. So it’s fair to call into question if he is ambivalent to even constructing a team the way his father did, with an out-and-out goal of being Champions. I don’t think that’s his goal. Just making money, tending the franchise till a good enough offer is on the table and he can cart away his dough and retire fat and lazy somewhere.
I know from personal experience how some businesses just fold up and vanish soon after the primary business developer passes away. Inheritance gets sent down, but nobody wants to work anymore to keep it running. People just want their payday, even if it’s pennies on the dollar. Anything to avoid having to get down and use some elbow grease.
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Lets not jump on Mark yet.
He knows what he cant do, he went and spoke to people who do care about the Raiders. People who did sacrifice for this org. And they recommended Reggie. And so he put the keys of the car in his hands.
I know its hard for us to accept things being run like a real org. I loved the Al way (when it worked) too. But we have to move on, there will never be another Al Davis.
Just because Mark isnt meddling doesnt mean he doesnt care.
And Reggie isnt tanking this year. In private circles he’s said that he feels we can go far with this squad. He’s as surprised as we are that we lost to SanDusky the way we did.
September 14th, 2012 at 8:21 am
we should be nervous. We could be looking at season-over by the end of week two. We lose to the Fins and 0-5 here we come, game over. Full blog meltdown. Someone probably jumps off the bay bridge. The stadium is back to 1/3 capacity and the Raiders are moving to Los Angeles.
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Somehow, I don’t think Mark Davis is that much worried about moving to LA. If he’s even part of that move. He doesn’t have anything invested and pragmatically can take the best offer and cut and run. I wouldn’t blame him. I don’t even think he’s a fan.
September 14th, 2012 at 8:21 am
Cont….
We end up 0-5 and Reggies tune will change. But make no mistake, we did not go into this year with the intentions of not going deep into the playoffs.
September 14th, 2012 at 8:22 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 8:14 am
but you CAN’T blame the players for Knapp’s issues with scoring on 4 different teams.
ATL
Oak
Seattle
Oak
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I can’t blame Jamarcus for Knapp’s issue last time he was here?
Like Hell I can’t!!!!!!!
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Ok blame Jabustus. Do you blame Vick too? What about Matt Hasselbeck, do you blame him too? Do you blame CP?
You knows trends/ patterns and you ignore it. 4 different teams!!
September 14th, 2012 at 8:23 am
Looks like the Mike Bush insurance policy is going to come into play sooner rather than later for Da’Bears.
September 14th, 2012 at 8:25 am
Sd played mostly 2 deep.. we should have had success pounding the ball off tackle and up the middle.. maybe pull down a safety and then spread the field deep… thought we ran that outside zone too much.. their lbs and corners were playing very aggressive. Maybe a couple screens to reece on a misdirect away from dmac.. too many planned passes to wrs at or near the los for my taste. Still not a knapp fan…
September 14th, 2012 at 8:26 am
Riff,
I’ll volunteer that I’ve never played college football like you, but I have built a business from nothing to something substantial. And walked away from it for family reasons. When my mom passed, I got a small chunk of it, but the operating piece was left to my siblings and they didn’t last 3 years to completely scuttle it and sell it off for parts.
Maybe I am misreading Mark Davis, but I see this from a different point of view. I know what it’s like to pour yourself into something, not knowing if it will even pay off, but do it anyway. Sacrificing everything with a passion to succeed. And seeing it all stripped and sold away is still a gut punch. I’d hate to see Mark do that, but it wouldn’t surprise me.
September 14th, 2012 at 8:26 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 8:17 am
4 different teams O?
So this season is already lumped in AFTER 1 GAME??
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4 preseason games and 1 regular season game. Same issue for years, so it’s not a new issue. It’s not rocket science!
September 14th, 2012 at 8:26 am
Raider Riff Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 8:21 am
Cont….
We end up 0-5 and Reggies tune will change. But make no mistake, we did not go into this year with the intentions of not going deep into the playoffs.
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If we go 0-5 (and I don’t believe we will, but just for the sake of argument), you’d probably see TP starting with a bunch of the younger guys as well. Might as well see who’s got it and who doesn’t.
September 14th, 2012 at 8:28 am
Yeah I agree…we lose Sunday and its possible 0-5 here we come. Remember we lost 4 in a row to teams we probably shouldn’t have lost to in 2002 and everyone wrote us off after a strong 4-0 start. We all know how that turned out.
Yes we had possibly a better team that year but hey…Any Given Sunday!!!
September 14th, 2012 at 8:29 am
Same story last nite.. wanna beat good qbs & teams? Bring a passrush
September 14th, 2012 at 8:30 am
Guest123 Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 8:26 am
Riff,
I’ll volunteer that I’ve never played college football like you, but I have built a business from nothing to something substantial.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
A guy who played college football who is not happy with Knapp’s play calling?!
Interesting!!
LOL
September 14th, 2012 at 8:32 am
2-2 after four weeks is very likely, and I wouldn’t rule out 3-1 if Manning’s neck starts giving him problems again. Pitt looked VERY flat last Sunday night, and they won’t see us as a threat, either.
September 14th, 2012 at 8:34 am
Raider O Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 8:30 am
Guest123 Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 8:26 am
Riff,
I’ll volunteer that I’ve never played college football like you, but I have built a business from nothing to something substantial.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
A guy who played college football who is not happy with Knapp’s play calling?!
Interesting!!
LOL
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Never* played
September 14th, 2012 at 8:35 am
Marks Hair Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 8:25 am
Sd played mostly 2 deep.. we should have had success pounding the ball off tackle and up the middle.. maybe pull down a safety and then spread the field deep… thought we ran that outside zone too much.. their lbs and corners were playing very aggressive. Maybe a couple screens to reece on a misdirect away from dmac.. too many planned passes to wrs at or near the los for my taste. Still not a knapp fan…
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How many times have you watched the game?
We ran 3 screens in the fist two drives. They started to sniff them out. Like you said, the CBs and LBs were playing too aggressive.
The middle was there for the taking and while it was working, DMC was getting running lanes.
Once we started making mistakes, everything changed for the worse.
And we did get them to bring down a safety. When they did, DHB ran the wrong route and we missed an easy chance at a TD pass deep down the middle.
Seriously, I’d love to sit and watch a game with some of you and actually listen to you try and defend the players on the bone head plays.
September 14th, 2012 at 8:35 am
Guest,
Don’t forget to post your credentials.
LOL
You People are funny.
September 14th, 2012 at 8:36 am
Shaunessy better get bit by a radioactive spider if we wanna do better than 1-4.
September 14th, 2012 at 8:36 am
Raider O Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 8:26 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 8:17 am
4 different teams O?
So this season is already lumped in AFTER 1 GAME??
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4 preseason games and 1 regular season game. Same issue for years, so it’s not a new issue. It’s not rocket science!
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4 preseason games. 3 dropped passes in the end zone. Keep the blinders on.
September 14th, 2012 at 8:37 am
Hey Riff, if you’re gonna defend Knapp by saying he didn’t have the players, then what do you think of Hue as an OC, putting together the 6th highest scoring offense in the league with Jason Campbell at QB(his first year with the team), DHB & Murphy at WR’s, Miller at TE, DMC at RB.
I mean DMC is the only real stud of the bunch, and Miller is a real good player, but do you see any REAL talent, especially at the QB position.
September 14th, 2012 at 8:38 am
Don’t forget to post your credentials.
LOL
You People are funny.
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What credentials? Did I say I had any? You should re-read my post.
September 14th, 2012 at 8:38 am
I hope they don’t run that bubble screen to D-Mac again.
Those screens are tough when you are throwing to a guy the D is keying on.
Throw those to Reece, or Moore, or even Criner maybe.
That was nearly a pick 6, and McFadden got flattened.
September 14th, 2012 at 8:39 am
Vegas,
That’s like saying there were reasons for the bubble to burst. Bad loans, banks being greedy, etc…
The result is the same. There is always a bubble and the bubble will burst. That’s a fact.
September 14th, 2012 at 8:39 am
Guest123 Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 8:26 am
Riff,
I’ll volunteer that I’ve never played college football like you, but I have built a business from nothing to something substantial. And walked away from it for family reasons. When my mom passed, I got a small chunk of it, but the operating piece was left to my siblings and they didn’t last 3 years to completely scuttle it and sell it off for parts.
Maybe I am misreading Mark Davis, but I see this from a different point of view. I know what it’s like to pour yourself into something, not knowing if it will even pay off, but do it anyway. Sacrificing everything with a passion to succeed. And seeing it all stripped and sold away is still a gut punch. I’d hate to see Mark do that, but it wouldn’t surprise me.
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Your take on people who inherit things is spot on. I wasnt questioning that. I just dont think Mark fits that mold.
I have siblings that did the exact same thing with their inheritances. Most inheritors are worthless. My older sisters cant wait for my step dad (their father) to die.
September 14th, 2012 at 8:39 am
Im not defending the players. But like you said.. when we ran up the middle a play open up for dhb… then we went away from it.. started dinking it.. stared giving up sacks..
September 14th, 2012 at 8:41 am
Jesus H Christ, you gonads are still on Knapp? Look, you have a BRAND NEW offensive line that never played together. 3 new parts! A Q and RB that NEVER played an NFL game together! 2 new starting WR’s, one that NEVER PLAYED an NFL game before and another who came in with 3 days of practice! AND if that’s not enough, you have brand new coaches and scheme! What the fook did any of you think was going to happen? The Raiders were instantly going to turn into the 07 Patriots? Let’s get ready for Miami.
September 14th, 2012 at 8:41 am
And i said screens to reece. Fake to dmac go to reece
September 14th, 2012 at 8:43 am
Guest123 Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 8:38 am
Don’t forget to post your credentials.
LOL
You People are funny.
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What credentials? Did I say I had any? You should re-read my post.
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You don’t have any, and according to Riff, we need to post our credentials before we post our opinions in football. “Most on this blog have never even played let alone coached. They got no insight or credentials to be critiquing the playcalling when their are so many OBVIOUS mistakes the players made.”
September 14th, 2012 at 8:44 am
On*
September 14th, 2012 at 8:45 am
MaddenRaiderisadouchebag Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 8:37 am
Hey Riff, if you’re gonna defend Knapp by saying he didn’t have the players, then what do you think of Hue as an OC, putting together the 6th highest scoring offense in the league with Jason Campbell at QB(his first year with the team), DHB & Murphy at WR’s, Miller at TE, DMC at RB.
I mean DMC is the only real stud of the bunch, and Miller is a real good player, but do you see any REAL talent, especially at the QB position.
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Ive already said a million times what I thought of Hue as a OC. He’s one of the best. And alongside Norv Turner, they are the two best in-game play callers in the NFL currently.
Knapp is a step down in the in-game play calling dept, but that doesnt mean he is incompetent. He’s just not as good as Hue, WHO IS EXCELLENT at playcalling.
I thought what Hue was able to do with our team was exceptional. But there was a reason he couldnt wait to dump Campbell.
Hue’s problems werent playcalling or scheme. They were in-game management and politics in the media. He f’d up and got himself fired. His messiah complex with Al surely didnt help things with Mark.
But none of that has anything to do with Knapp. And Knapp didnt have anything to do with why Reece fumbled, Streater fumbled, Kelly jumped offsides, 3 dropped TD passes in the preseason, Condo getting hurt, and DHB running the wrong route.
We should have won the game easily without any injuries. Won it close with Condo going down.
Im not a Knapp fan. Im not a Hue hater. I just cant ignore the obvious, he hasnt been our problem thus far.
September 14th, 2012 at 8:45 am
Pro Football Focus:
“Khalif Barnes struggled last week in pass protection against San Diego (-2.8 pass block), and yielded a sack and four hurries. It was Barnes’ worst pass-blocking grade since late in the 2008 season when he was with Jacksonville. His task doesn’t get any easier this week as he matches up against Miami’s best defensive player, Cameron Wake.”
Knapp better chip Wake all day.
September 14th, 2012 at 8:46 am
Riff.
We have played SD in 3 of our last 9 games, in fact we played our last 2 games vs them, we averaged 504 yards and 25 ppg in 2011, 321 yards and 1 TD with one minute left with SD protecting a 16 point lead on MNF.
What changed?.
Both teams changed Coordinators, SD on Defense, Raiders on Offense.
And we had months to prepare for this game, we had recent tape on how to attack SD and we had McFadden, we should have won this game but we were outcoached.
September 14th, 2012 at 8:48 am
610.RaiderDuck Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 8:32 am
2-2 after four weeks is very likely, and I wouldn’t rule out 3-1 if Manning’s neck starts giving him problems again. Pitt looked VERY flat last Sunday night, and they won’t see us as a threat, either.
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Seriously Duck? I like your optimism but the way this team looked Monday i’d say it’s impossible.
You can’t win in this league playing the way they played Mon Nite.
You evidently are banking on the team improving over Mon. nite. but we have “evidence” to suggest they will. Just hope.
It just seems like once they “fix” one thing, they find some other ingenius way of fing up the game.
I’m big time down on this team. They are gonna have to show me so I can see with my own eyes they are a decent team, and it’s gonna take more than “decent” to beat Pitt. Den. and/or Atl. Heck, they are gonna have to improve light yrs. over Mon. nite just to beat Miami.
I love the Raiders and will root for them till the day I die, but I need to SEE something.
September 14th, 2012 at 8:49 am
Ive already said a million times what I thought of Hue as a OC. He’s one of the best. And alongside Norv Turner, they are the two best in-game play callers in the NFL currently.
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Maybe you should post your credentials.
LMAO
September 14th, 2012 at 8:49 am
So far Big Dummy`s contribution to the season,..he let Bush go, failed to sign Benson,…its bad now, wait in two weeks when DMC goes down for the year so he can join Ford in the Playstation room, and Palmer has to hand off to Goodson,..omg disaster…and I assure you Big Dummy isnt done making stupid decisions, he cant help it, hes Big Dummy!!!!
September 14th, 2012 at 8:49 am
Marks Hair Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 8:39 am
Im not defending the players. But like you said.. when we ran up the middle a play open up for dhb… then we went away from it.. started dinking it.. stared giving up sacks..
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We went away from it because immediately after we missed that opportunity and the other two (Streater and DHBs other non-catch), SanDiusky backed off again and invited us to pass over the middle.
CP3 was great but he missed Meyers getting open a LOT over the course of the game.
If we force the ball deep like so many here wanted, CP3 ends up with a bunch of picks and he’s getting eaten alive and Knapp is still getting blasted.
Go re-watch the game. We sent players deep to stretch the field on nearly every passing down. Either the O-Line broke down, players ran the wrong routes, dropped the passes, or the Safeties played too deep.
Our deep playmaker in D17 was on the sidelines. What else did we have to work with?
I’ll say it again, Streater doesnt fumble and we go up either 10-0 or 14-0 and the game finishes out completely differently.
September 14th, 2012 at 8:51 am
Bob Marley Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 8:46 am
Riff.
We have played SD in 3 of our last 9 games, in fact we played our last 2 games vs them, we averaged 504 yards and 25 ppg in 2011, 321 yards and 1 TD with one minute left with SD protecting a 16 point lead on MNF.
What changed?.
Both teams changed Coordinators, SD on Defense, Raiders on Offense.
And we had months to prepare for this game, we had recent tape on how to attack SD and we had McFadden, we should have won this game but we were outcoached.
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Explain how we were outcoached while leaving out our players HUGE mistakes and the loss of our long snapper. You cant do it.
Youre normally one of the best on this blog Bob but if you think we were outcoached, you really need to watch the game 3 or 4 more times.
September 14th, 2012 at 8:51 am
we should have won this game but we were outcoached.
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Truth. And not just Knapp. Allen was outcoached by Norv. The staff was unprepared to exectute the gameplan, and didn’t answer the bell when the chips were down and countermeasures needed to be taken. Allen got caught with his pants down and his lack of attention to detail showed. Coaching staff grade: F
September 14th, 2012 at 8:52 am
Seymour Bush Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 8:41 am
Jesus H Christ, you gonads are still on Knapp? Look, you have a BRAND NEW offensive line that never played together. 3 new parts! A Q and RB that NEVER played an NFL game together! 2 new starting WR’s, one that NEVER PLAYED an NFL game before and another who came in with 3 days of practice! AND if that’s not enough, you have brand new coaches and scheme! What the fook did any of you think was going to happen? The Raiders were instantly going to turn into the 07 Patriots? Let’s get ready for Miami.
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I didn’t expect the 07 Patriots offense, I expected our HC to not scrap an offense that was having success & on the verge of being a juggernaut with getting DMC back & our WR’s another year in the offense. Whatever you think of WHAT the reason for Knapp’s failures(like Riff points to), the bottom line is that he has NOT succeeded in nearly all of his OC jobs.
But hey, at least Knapp is better at making DMC ineffective than Dennis Allen was.
September 14th, 2012 at 8:54 am
One of the best OCs in the league is working as an assistant DB and STs coach?
September 14th, 2012 at 8:55 am
Bob Marley Says:
What changed?.
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Here’s what changed. When we won on Thursday nite football last year, D17 made the big time catches that DHB and Streater didnt.
We didnt lose the turnover battle.
We didnt lose our long snapper.
Tommy Kelly wasnt jumping offsides on MULTIPLE 3rd downs of the same drive.
I’ll say it again and I want you to answer how this is getting outcoached……
Streaters fumble cost us 3 pts. Kellys offsides gave them 7. Losing Condo spotted them 9. That is a 19 point swing but you see that as outcoached? WHAT COACH IN THE LEAGUE IS SUPPOSED TO HAVE A GAMEPLAN FOR THOSE SORT OF NUMBERS?
September 14th, 2012 at 8:55 am
Riff.
And if SD was playing 2 deep and taking away the deep ball, you are supposed to run it up their gut and force them to bring a Safety neal the LOS, you watched the game 4 times…..honest question, what adjustments did we make to counter SD’s coverage?.
September 14th, 2012 at 8:56 am
Guest123 Says:
The staff was unprepared to exectute the gameplan,
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Ummmm, players execute gameplans, not coaches.
September 14th, 2012 at 8:56 am
Raider Riff Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 8:45 am
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Ive already said a million times what I thought of Hue as a OC. He’s one of the best. And alongside Norv Turner, they are the two best in-game play callers in the NFL currently.
Knapp is a step down in the in-game play calling dept, but that doesnt mean he is incompetent. He’s just not as good as Hue, WHO IS EXCELLENT at playcalling.
I thought what Hue was able to do with our team was exceptional. But there was a reason he couldnt wait to dump Campbell.
Hue’s problems werent playcalling or scheme. They were in-game management and politics in the media. He f’d up and got himself fired. His messiah complex with Al surely didnt help things with Mark.
But none of that has anything to do with Knapp. And Knapp didnt have anything to do with why Reece fumbled, Streater fumbled, Kelly jumped offsides, 3 dropped TD passes in the preseason, Condo getting hurt, and DHB running the wrong route.
We should have won the game easily without any injuries. Won it close with Condo going down.
Im not a Knapp fan. Im not a Hue hater. I just cant ignore the obvious, he hasnt been our problem thus far.
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You think Knapp is good at in-game adjustments?…Just curious if would you describe the talent that year (2010) on offense as JV…And you’re wrong, Hue does has something to do with Knapp. It shows that these players can be successful and the offense can be lethal. It also says something about our head coach for not wanting to continue that scheme doesn’t it?
September 14th, 2012 at 8:57 am
Bob Marley Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 8:55 am
Riff.
And if SD was playing 2 deep and taking away the deep ball, you are supposed to run it up their gut and force them to bring a Safety neal the LOS, you watched the game 4 times…..honest question, what adjustments did we make to counter SD’s coverage?.
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Thank you Rasta man!
September 14th, 2012 at 8:58 am
Scoreboard is all that matters. It is all that anyone values ultimately.
We can out stat every team in the league but if we don’t get the W it’s all for naught.
I hope the coahes…and Reggie…whomever…are thinking in terms of “what plays..what schemes..what approach…which players are we gonna put out there” that will give us a win on Sunday.
If it means dropping dearly held “ideas” about how an offens should be run….then make the gutsy decision to make that change.
What I mean is I hope they do not hold to some “scheme” and take a “stay the course no matter what” attitude…IF there is an option to implement something else.
We can’t afford to throw away any more games thinking everything will come around eventually…Eventually will never come, and if it does it will be way too late.
Each game in this league is HUUUUGE. That’s IF they truly feel they have a shot at the playoffs this yr.
If they don’t..then I guess what the hell let’s experiment with different things and if it means this is a dress rehearsel for next yr. then we just have to grin and bear it.
September 14th, 2012 at 8:58 am
Your always missing my point riff…. run up the middle against a 2 deep d… dont give up and start running that zone stretch crap… pull down the safties. THEN stretch the field deep.. we stopped pounding it… didnt really establish the run.. of course they invited us to dump it over the middle…. so did tampa bay once. We should have pounded it all day… and worked off of that… get it?
September 14th, 2012 at 8:59 am
Raider Riff Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 8:55 am
Bob Marley Says:
What changed?.
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Here’s what changed. When we won on Thursday nite football last year, D17 made the big time catches that DHB and Streater didnt.
We didnt lose the turnover battle.
We didnt lose our long snapper.
Tommy Kelly wasnt jumping offsides on MULTIPLE 3rd downs of the same drive.
I’ll say it again and I want you to answer how this is getting outcoached……
Streaters fumble cost us 3 pts. Kellys offsides gave them 7. Losing Condo spotted them 9. That is a 19 point swing but you see that as outcoached? WHAT COACH IN THE LEAGUE IS SUPPOSED TO HAVE A GAMEPLAN FOR THOSE SORT OF NUMBERS?
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You forgot that we had a pass rusher that Thursday night game that could beat an undrafted rookie.
September 14th, 2012 at 8:59 am
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/13/ervin-mckinness-driving-drunk-tweet-yolo-dies-car-crash-dui-_n_1880348.html
Meanwhile, some thug rapper named “Inkyy” tweeted a couple of weeks back about driving 120 mph while drunk. A few minutes later, this gentleman did the human gene pool an immeasurable service by permanently removing himself from it when he wrecked his car.
Unfortunately, the three other people in the car with him also died.
September 14th, 2012 at 8:59 am
This is unreal.
Bob Marley Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 8:55 am
Riff.
And if SD was playing 2 deep and taking away the deep ball, you are supposed to run it up their gut and force them to bring a Safety neal the LOS, you watched the game 4 times…..honest question, what adjustments did we make to counter SD’s coverage?.
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We were passing over the soft middle. The LB’s were playing the run aggressive all night.
How many times must this be spelled out? Maybe you missed my earlier posts, I dont expect you to read all the drivel. But c’mon Bob. You are smarter than this. There are plenty of vids up where the players and coaches explain exactly what SD was doing and how we adjusted.
The 19 point swing kiled us. How is that so hard to accept?
September 14th, 2012 at 9:00 am
MaddenRaiderisadouchebag Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 8:59 am
Raider Riff Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 8:55 am
Bob Marley Says:
What changed?.
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Here’s what changed. When we won on Thursday nite football last year, D17 made the big time catches that DHB and Streater didnt.
We didnt lose the turnover battle.
We didnt lose our long snapper.
Tommy Kelly wasnt jumping offsides on MULTIPLE 3rd downs of the same drive.
I’ll say it again and I want you to answer how this is getting outcoached……
Streaters fumble cost us 3 pts. Kellys offsides gave them 7. Losing Condo spotted them 9. That is a 19 point swing but you see that as outcoached? WHAT COACH IN THE LEAGUE IS SUPPOSED TO HAVE A GAMEPLAN FOR THOSE SORT OF NUMBERS?
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You forgot that we had a pass rusher that Thursday night game that could beat an undrafted rookie.
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Exactly.
September 14th, 2012 at 9:00 am
DJ Johnny Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 8:58 am
Scoreboard is all that matters. It is all that anyone values ultimately.
We can out stat every team in the league but if we don’t get the W it’s all for naught.
I hope the coahes…and Reggie…whomever…are thinking in terms of “what plays..what schemes..what approach…which players are we gonna put out there” that will give us a win on Sunday.
If it means dropping dearly held “ideas” about how an offens should be run….then make the gutsy decision to make that change.
What I mean is I hope they do not hold to some “scheme” and take a “stay the course no matter what” attitude…IF there is an option to implement something else.
We can’t afford to throw away any more games thinking everything will come around eventually…Eventually will never come, and if it does it will be way too late.
Each game in this league is HUUUUGE. That’s IF they truly feel they have a shot at the playoffs this yr.
If they don’t..then I guess what the hell let’s experiment with different things and if it means this is a dress rehearsel for next yr. then we just have to grin and bear it.
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nice post dude, especially when you have been 8-8 the last 2 years.
September 14th, 2012 at 9:02 am
I think the case for being “outcoached” comes into play when during the postgame Palmer was talking how they took away the deep balls and seemed to take a defeatest tone like “oh well, we just couldn’t do anything since they did that”.
As Raiders fans how sick are we of hearing “We just didn’t get it done”?
September 14th, 2012 at 9:02 am
The Knapp version of the WCO and ZBS seems like one that kind of stacks off of things. For instance, I am sure the plan was to run that reverse early to Taiwan, NOT LOSE 25 yards, and than run various fakes and things off that motion. Same with the play-action, bootleg stuff. Same looks, various actual plays that look the same.
The issue at hand is if you can’t get out of 2nd gear, like us on Monday, you can’t rely on that deception and what not, and you get that result.
Wait until the 2nd half of this Miami game, and we are going to slaughter them, as we will be able to use some of that stuff.
Raiders 34 Land Sharks 3
September 14th, 2012 at 9:03 am
Credentials: 33 yo, 6′1″, 245lbs, 1 year high school football, 3 years high school basketball, Raider fan since 1988.
I think that there are a lot of ‘Chicken Littles’ in here. Fire Knapp? Cut Jacoby? Cut ties with Mark Davis? RG3>CP3?
Easy guys. I’m not happy about the result of last week’s game either but the sky is not falling . . .
yet.
September 14th, 2012 at 9:03 am
Big Dummy could have hired a proven coach, older dude, experienced,..but no, Big Dummy went and found a guy that nobody else would consider for anything other then a postion coach job,..he sucked as Denvers D coodinator, but sucked at it bad enough to impress Big Dummy.
September 14th, 2012 at 9:03 am
643. Gotta go gents
September 14th, 2012 at 9:03 am
Marks Hair Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 8:58 am
Your always missing my point riff…. run up the middle against a 2 deep d… dont give up and start running that zone stretch crap… pull down the safties. THEN stretch the field deep.. we stopped pounding it… didnt really establish the run.. of course they invited us to dump it over the middle…. so did tampa bay once. We should have pounded it all day… and worked off of that… get it?
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LB’s were stacking the run. Thats why it was so easy to throw over the middle.
Go rewatch the game. Endzone coaches film. Every time we dropped back in the first half, CP3 had his pick on who to throw too.
Once we got behind, they no longer had to respect the run anymore. DE’s pinned their ears back, and LBs werent as aggressive.
It’s all on tape. This isnt opinion. Just go re-watch it.
September 14th, 2012 at 9:04 am
648,
Are u saying that becuz we were 8-8 last 2 yrs. we should be in a situation to take it to the next level? Not sure what u meant.
September 14th, 2012 at 9:05 am
Is it Sunday yet???
September 14th, 2012 at 9:06 am
And I see NorcoAmy is back.
Remember, folks: Norco hates Reggie for one and ONLY one reason: He’s the Raiders GM.
If Polian were our GM, Norco would hate him and ask we didn’t get Reggie.
Same thing with DA: If we’d hired any other coach, Norco would be hating him and asking why we didn’t hire a bright young assistant like Dennis Allen.
September 14th, 2012 at 9:09 am
MaddenRaiderisadouchebag Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 8:56 am
Raider Riff Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 8:45 am
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Ive already said a million times what I thought of Hue as a OC. He’s one of the best. And alongside Norv Turner, they are the two best in-game play callers in the NFL currently.
Knapp is a step down in the in-game play calling dept, but that doesnt mean he is incompetent. He’s just not as good as Hue, WHO IS EXCELLENT at playcalling.
I thought what Hue was able to do with our team was exceptional. But there was a reason he couldnt wait to dump Campbell.
Hue’s problems werent playcalling or scheme. They were in-game management and politics in the media. He f’d up and got himself fired. His messiah complex with Al surely didnt help things with Mark.
But none of that has anything to do with Knapp. And Knapp didnt have anything to do with why Reece fumbled, Streater fumbled, Kelly jumped offsides, 3 dropped TD passes in the preseason, Condo getting hurt, and DHB running the wrong route.
We should have won the game easily without any injuries. Won it close with Condo going down.
Im not a Knapp fan. Im not a Hue hater. I just cant ignore the obvious, he hasnt been our problem thus far.
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You think Knapp is good at in-game adjustments?…Just curious if would you describe the talent that year (2010) on offense as JV…And you’re wrong, Hue does has something to do with Knapp. It shows that these players can be successful and the offense can be lethal. It also says something about our head coach for not wanting to continue that scheme doesn’t it?
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So far, Ive seen Knapp make the right calls on our in-game adjustments. I would have preferred more tempo, but regardless, NOTHING is going to overcome the 19 pt swing that you all so conveniently want to ignore.
The thing you have to understand is that most of the times, both opposing coaches call the right calls for the moment. The NFL is ultra conservative. This isnt Madden on the XBox where you can easily catch some punk kid trying to do all out blitzs every down.
9 times out of 10 the outcome of a play is determined by the execution of the players. Fatigue, mental mistakes, pressure, talent, etc all play a factor.
You set your scheme and gameplan up for what your talent is capable of. But if they dont deliver, youre going to look poor, it doesnt matter who you are.
As for your last question, why didnt we keep our old system? I dunno. I would have preferred it. But in that old system, if we were dropping TD passes, running the wrong routes, jumping offsides, and our Long Snapper was going down, we would lose also.
Stop ignoring the obvious. The 19 point swing killed us.
September 14th, 2012 at 9:10 am
Bob Marley Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 8:55 am
Riff.
And if SD was playing 2 deep and taking away the deep ball, you are supposed to run it up their gut and force them to bring a Safety neal the LOS, you watched the game 4 times…..honest question, what adjustments did we make to counter SD’s coverage?.
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Did you play college football?
September 14th, 2012 at 9:13 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 9:02 am
The Knapp version of the WCO and ZBS seems like one that kind of stacks off of things. For instance, I am sure the plan was to run that reverse early to Taiwan, NOT LOSE 25 yards, and than run various fakes and things off that motion. Same with the play-action, bootleg stuff. Same looks, various actual plays that look the same.
The issue at hand is if you can’t get out of 2nd gear, like us on Monday, you can’t rely on that deception and what not, and you get that result.
Wait until the 2nd half of this Miami game, and we are going to slaughter them, as we will be able to use some of that stuff.
Raiders 34 Land Sharks 3
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Nice post.
Yeah, youre intuition is right. ALL schemes stack.
That is why you will hear players and coaches say that despite coming into a game prepared, but circumstances can change the direction drastically.
No team that give up a 19 pt swing like we did, by shooting ourselves in the feet, is going to overcome it.
If we cant execute a simple reverse. We got bigger issues than our scheme.
September 14th, 2012 at 9:15 am
655…It’s more about you saying every game is huge…We have found that out last 2 years. Especially in Miami last year & Jax the year before. When you are 8-8 for 2 years, I would expect us to be able to, AT least, be near that record this year.
September 14th, 2012 at 9:16 am
Branden.w Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 9:03 am
Credentials: 33 yo, 6′1″, 245lbs, 1 year high school football, 3 years high school basketball, Raider fan since 1988.
I think that there are a lot of ‘Chicken Littles’ in here. Fire Knapp? Cut Jacoby? Cut ties with Mark Davis? RG3>CP3?
Easy guys. I’m not happy about the result of last week’s game either but the sky is not falling . . .
yet.
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LOL college football?
I year of HS football
September 14th, 2012 at 9:16 am
Raider O Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 9:10 am
Bob Marley Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 8:55 am
Riff.
And if SD was playing 2 deep and taking away the deep ball, you are supposed to run it up their gut and force them to bring a Safety neal the LOS, you watched the game 4 times…..honest question, what adjustments did we make to counter SD’s coverage?.
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Did you play college football?
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You dont have to have played college football to have an opinion. But if youve never been in the film room, youre going to sound stupid and say things like it was Taiwan Jones’ fault on the reverse.
This is elementary stuff.
Youre not stupid if you never played the game. But you are stupid if you argue with people that have. Sports are a science. This isnt religion where we can debate for hours on end without any proof.
Gametape. 19 pt swing that was our own doing. Nothing more too it than that.
September 14th, 2012 at 9:17 am
Riff, do you think in Hue’s offense the players “executed” better than in Knapp’s offense? And subsequently do you think the players in Tarver’s defense are “executing” better in Bresnahan’s defense?
September 14th, 2012 at 9:17 am
I’m gonna throw out an optimistic post despite all evidence that we can actually do this, but…IF we can find a way to scrape a W out of Miami THEN we will have a little bit of momentum going into the Pitt. game.
I don’t give us any advantage being at home against them. Fo whatever reason, it almost seems like the opposing teams get more fired up against us in the “Black Hole” as they call it.
It’s almost like we pizz em off so much with the taunting and everything that it makes these teams take it to another level cuz they want so badly to shut us up or something. That’s just a thought..i don’t know.
It all hinges on having a little bit of momentum from the Miami game..and some confidence.
If we happen to beat Pittsburgh at home than we go into Denver with the confidence we can beat them too.
It all hinges on Miami.
September 14th, 2012 at 9:21 am
Taiwan jones and the reverse?
Wrong guy Mr. I played college football so don’t argue with me. I never said anything about the reverse. Knapp is the issue.
Btw, do you realize there are a lot of people who are involved in sports who never played sports their entire life?
September 14th, 2012 at 9:25 am
Riffster.
Calm down buddy, I enjoy your stuff as well and I’m fine if we don’t agree on some of it, at leat you make a good case.
So, it boild down to this, you’re putting monday’s loss on the players because Knapp had a briliant gameplan and adjusted accordingly to what SD threw at us, we just failed to execute, 4 or 5 plays decided this game.
I’ll take your word for it because I don’t plan on watching that debacle again and obviously the Long-Snapping thing should be out of the equation for good.
September 14th, 2012 at 9:25 am
I just hope we have something good happen in Miami. We need it.
In my humble opinion..we deserve it.
No more “We just didn’t get it done”.
September 14th, 2012 at 9:26 am
“Sports are a science”
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Interesting.
JaBustus is a scientist?
What about LT? Was he a scientist on Crack? lol
September 14th, 2012 at 9:29 am
MaddenRaiderisadouchebag Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 9:17 am
Riff, do you think in Hue’s offense the players “executed” better than in Knapp’s offense? And subsequently do you think the players in Tarver’s defense are “executing” better in Bresnahan’s defense?
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D17 executed. He made BIG TIME catches that we havent seen in a decade.
When Ford was in their making BIG TIME catches, we won games.
When DHB was making BIG TIME plays like he did against Detroit, we started to dominate the game. When he couldnt make the catch in the endzone late, we lost.
As for Bresh, Ive already said my piece on that. That was a unique situation. Weve had talent on D for the last 10 years but we were running a archaic system that put players in horrible positions and set them up to fail.
Nobody in the league is accusing Knapp of that. You cannot equate Rolando covering Megatron to Streater fumbling and Kelly jumping offsides.
But back to your original point, our players cost us plenty of games with Hue as well. DMC fumbling in Buffalo when JC had us ROLLING. Remember that? Jacoby fumbling against Denver on a long gain, remember that? Hue had to deal with similar issues. But he usually had a healthy D17. Knapp hasnt yet.
And lets not forget, Marshall tried running a semi-modern D and our defense let him down also. We had some really bad LB play back then. We got rid of the “athletes” and got guys with high football IQ’s and it has changed our entire D so far. We are playing with the WORST CB tandem our org has ever had and yet we look like a really good D. That says our personel has gotten a lot better at LB and also shows just how bad Al Davis’s defense was.
September 14th, 2012 at 9:32 am
Chris Steuber @ChrisSteuber
I’m told scouts from #49ers, #Eagles & #Raiders will attend #JamesMadison, #WestVirginia game on Saturday. #NFLDraft #NFL
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Geno Smith?
September 14th, 2012 at 9:33 am
Chris Steuber @ChrisSteuber
I’m told scouts from #Jaguars, #Jets, #Raiders & #Ravens will attend #BYU, #Utah game on Saturday.
September 14th, 2012 at 9:33 am
Raider Riff Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
The Big Banana Says:
September 13th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
Wonder how much the play book was limited this past weekend due to the WR situation and needing to rely on Hagan. How much could he have realistically picked up in less than a week?
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How much was it limited? Not nearly as much as we were limited by the existing WR’s inability to make the big play when needed.
Their guys made the big plays when it counted. Ours didnt.
Stop blaming the coaches on this one.
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That’s BS. Take an above average Coordinator – or take Hue Jackson (who I don’t overly love), but give him the offense we had in week 1 – and it would’ve SCORED!
Those players are threats. They’re NOT comfortable with the scheme yet. You say “aaah, it takes a while to get used to…” NO IT DOESN’T! Good coordinators get the scheme to fit the player’s strength. Look at our defense. Most of the had a idiotic defensive scheme for YEARS. It didn’t take LONG with “adjustment periods” for them to be able to play and stop the run.
That’s because we have a good DC (and our HC also is much more familar with it).
Our OC tries to bend all the players to his scheme and they are’t comfortable.
The players ALWAYS say that it’s their fault. Look at how BAD our d-line looked against teh run last year. Same players, suddenly we’re looking good. A LOT has to do with scheme, and strengthening strong points at what the players do well, and minimizing the weaknesses.
September 14th, 2012 at 9:33 am
So, it boild down to this, you’re putting monday’s loss on the players because Knapp had a briliant gameplan and adjusted accordingly to what SD threw at us, we just failed to execute, 4 or 5 plays decided this game.
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I hope the players execute on Sunday, or I’m going to blame Knapp again.
Damn Knapp! Is he from Mich?
September 14th, 2012 at 9:34 am
Raider O Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 9:21 am
Taiwan jones and the reverse?
Wrong guy Mr. I played college football so don’t argue with me. I never said anything about the reverse. Knapp is the issue.
Btw, do you realize there are a lot of people who are involved in sports who never played sports their entire life?
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You do realize that my original statement about having played the game, was directly in reference to twocent’s and others assertion that T Jones was at fault. Its like blaming the holder for a bad snap. It was ridiculous to suggest. I corrected him and others and you have just ran with it.
Yeah, there are people who have never played and can be fine coaches. You are not one of those are you? Are you coaching at the college level? Do you work in pro sports? My point with you and some others was that how are you so quick to judge a pro OC when our players faults are so obvious. If you are going to ignore the 19 pt swing, you either have an agenda or are blind.
Youre not dumb O. You just are frustrated and Knapp is an easy target. And you hate losing an argument and will fight to the death.
I knew when I was defending Knapp it wouldnt be a popular stance here. But Im not here to make friends. I watch the games multiple times and as the week progresses and my emotions settle, the evidence becomes more and more obvious by the 3rd time you live thru that debacle of a game.
19 pt swing dude. 19 points. 19 points no coach can overcome.
September 14th, 2012 at 9:36 am
Raider Riff Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 9:29 am
MaddenRaiderisadouchebag Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 9:17 am
Riff, do you think in Hue’s offense the players “executed” better than in Knapp’s offense? And subsequently do you think the players in Tarver’s defense are “executing” better in Bresnahan’s defense?
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D17 executed. He made BIG TIME catches that we havent seen in a decade.
When Ford was in their making BIG TIME catches, we won games.
When DHB was making BIG TIME plays like he did against Detroit, we started to dominate the game. When he couldnt make the catch in the endzone late, we lost.
As for Bresh, Ive already said my piece on that. That was a unique situation. Weve had talent on D for the last 10 years but we were running a archaic system that put players in horrible positions and set them up to fail.
Nobody in the league is accusing Knapp of that. You cannot equate Rolando covering Megatron to Streater fumbling and Kelly jumping offsides.
But back to your original point, our players cost us plenty of games with Hue as well. DMC fumbling in Buffalo when JC had us ROLLING. Remember that? Jacoby fumbling against Denver on a long gain, remember that? Hue had to deal with similar issues. But he usually had a healthy D17. Knapp hasnt yet.
And lets not forget, Marshall tried running a semi-modern D and our defense let him down also. We had some really bad LB play back then. We got rid of the “athletes” and got guys with high football IQ’s and it has changed our entire D so far. We are playing with the WORST CB tandem our org has ever had and yet we look like a really good D. That says our personel has gotten a lot better at LB and also shows just how bad Al Davis’s defense was.
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Not only Ford. Look at it – we had games that Reese exploded. It played well to them, and they executed better. Even having back-ups in across the board they “executed” a lot better.
September 14th, 2012 at 9:38 am
whos the next fumblitis player reggie is bringing in now?
September 14th, 2012 at 9:39 am
Nobody has answered my question by the way, don’t we have a former punter or ST coach here?.
Shouldn’t we have reeled in the gunners into a max-protect scheme after we botched our 1st punt?.
I mean, get 10 guys blocking and forming a wall in front of Lechle, let Goethel worry only about the snap and not getting up to block, have Lechler kick it as far as he can, probably landing in the end zone or just directional kicks out of bounds so SD didn’t have a chance at returning them, you know just make sure he got the punt off.
Is that something that could have worked? even with the low snaps Lechler was able to pick them up, it’s not like they were sailing over his head and he had no chance to even get his hands on them.
Not trying to beat a dead horse but I wondered about it during the game and I still can’t get it out of my head.
September 14th, 2012 at 9:41 am
Bob Marley Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 9:25 am
Riffster.
Calm down buddy, I enjoy your stuff as well and I’m fine if we don’t agree on some of it, at leat you make a good case.
So, it boild down to this, you’re putting monday’s loss on the players because Knapp had a briliant gameplan and adjusted accordingly to what SD threw at us, we just failed to execute, 4 or 5 plays decided this game.
I’ll take your word for it because I don’t plan on watching that debacle again and obviously the Long-Snapping thing should be out of the equation for good.
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Im calm Bob. I just have never once heard you have a wrong take on here til now. You, twocents, YougAmerican, and Chris from NY are normally 100% right. So forgive me for getting frustrated when I see one of the more respected semi’s completely miss the boat on this one.
You wrote:
“So, it boild down to this, you’re putting monday’s loss on the players because Knapp had a briliant gameplan and adjusted accordingly to what SD threw at us, we just failed to execute, 4 or 5 plays decided this game.
I’ll take your word for it because I don’t plan on watching that debacle again and obviously the Long-Snapping thing should be out of the equation for good.”
Yeah, but it was more than 4 or 5 plays. But you get the point.
Seriously, watching the game again is therapeutic believe it or not. It puts it all into perspective and at the very least allows you to direct the frustration where it belongs.
You’ll also be in line a lot more with the coaches and GM because you are seeing similar to what they see. Although, they will probably watch the game twice as many times as you and me and from a much deeper knowledge base.
September 14th, 2012 at 9:44 am
Riff,
Who do you ignore the facts/ Knapp’s record? He had 2 good years (scoring), and had a top 10 offense, but the rest of his 9 year career as OC is below avg- avg with 3 different teams. It’s well documented that Knapp’s offenses had issues with scoring since he was in ATL. Why do you ignore that? I never said the players are blame free, but good coordinators/ play callers adjust to overcome a lot of things including poor talent or mistakes. Ex: Miami and the wildcat offense, and Denver/ Tebow last year.
September 14th, 2012 at 9:45 am
For years, everyone in here screamed that we need to “build the lines” and we can win with a good D and Trent Dilfer at QB, or something like that.
Well, here it is, at its infancy.
September 14th, 2012 at 9:47 am
Why*
September 14th, 2012 at 9:48 am
Shouldn’t we have reeled in the gunners into a max-protect scheme after we botched our 1st punt?.
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Yup, should have went max protect and told Shane to kick 40 yards than OOB.
Again, I question whether we give the ST coach a security badge to get into the facility, because we just seem to run around completely lost on ST.
September 14th, 2012 at 9:50 am
662.Raider O Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 9:16 am
Branden.w Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 9:03 am
Credentials: 33 yo, 6′1″, 245lbs, 1 year high school football, 3 years high school basketball, Raider fan since 1988.
I think that there are a lot of ‘Chicken Littles’ in here. Fire Knapp? Cut Jacoby? Cut ties with Mark Davis? RG3>CP3?
Easy guys. I’m not happy about the result of last week’s game either but the sky is not falling . . .
yet.
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LOL college football?
I year of HS football
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Freshman year of High School so that makes me an expert.
September 14th, 2012 at 9:51 am
They should update those Raider scouts in attendance to include the New Mexico-Boise State I am going to in 2 weeks.
September 14th, 2012 at 9:52 am
I played JuCo baseball, so you azzhats better stand down on the ‘ol stickball!!!!!
September 14th, 2012 at 9:55 am
Oh and I forgot lunch-time pickup basketball veteran of 10 years.
September 14th, 2012 at 9:56 am
Freshman year of High School so that makes me an expert.
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LOL
Good enough to talk football, but there are people here who played college football (joking), so you Sir are not an expert.
September 14th, 2012 at 9:58 am
My first year at Butte, I roomed with 2 football players from my HS, and I am pretty confident I knew more about football than they did.
September 14th, 2012 at 9:59 am
688.Raider O Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 9:56 am
Freshman year of High School so that makes me an expert.
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LOL
Good enough to talk football, but there are people here who played college football (joking), so you Sir are not an expert.
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Not even with the 10 years of experience shooting hoops at the 24 hour fitness at lunchtime?
September 14th, 2012 at 9:59 am
Raider O Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 9:44 am
Riff,
Who do you ignore the facts/ Knapp’s record? He had 2 good years (scoring), and had a top 10 offense, but the rest of his 9 year career as OC is below avg- avg with 3 different teams. It’s well documented that Knapp’s offenses had issues with scoring since he was in ATL. Why do you ignore that? I never said the players are blame free, but good coordinators/ play callers adjust to overcome a lot of things including poor talent or mistakes. Ex: Miami and the wildcat offense, and Denver/ Tebow last year.
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Still got the blinders on I see.
Because I look at the entire situation with Knapp. I just dont make blanket statements. Evaluate each one of his previous situations and you will see that he wasnt the problem. If you think Tavarius Jackson and a stoned out Vick were not the problem, then so be it, just say so.
There is a reason Knapp keeps getting hired. But none of that matters.
Our players are responsible for a 19 pt swing. And you think that Knapp was supposed to overcome that with gimmicks. There is no in-game adjustment for the mistakes we made and then losing our long snapper.
September 14th, 2012 at 10:01 am
I played HS soccer and I was in a club in Jordan, so LMN shouldn’t argue/ debate soccer with me. I’m an expert!
I’m joking LMN.
September 14th, 2012 at 10:05 am
Raider O Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 9:44 am
Riff,
Who do you ignore the facts/ Knapp’s record? He had 2 good years (scoring), and had a top 10 offense, but the rest of his 9 year career as OC is below avg- avg with 3 different teams. It’s well documented that Knapp’s offenses had issues with scoring since he was in ATL. Why do you ignore that? I never said the players are blame free, but good coordinators/ play callers adjust to overcome a lot of things including poor talent or mistakes. Ex: Miami and the wildcat offense, and Denver/ Tebow last year.
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This is so ridiculous I have to post it again. I completely missed it the first time.
“Good play callers adjust to overcome mistakes by using the wildcat and Tebow.” Wow. That was the dumbest thing you have ever posted.
We didnt need to adjust. We needed to execute. It was there for the taking yet we continually shot ourselves in the foot all night long. No amount of adjusting can compensate for the mistakes we were making.
O, youre arguing just for the sake of arguing at this point. There is no way you are this dense.
September 14th, 2012 at 10:09 am
Our players are responsible for a 19 pt swing. And you think that Knapp was supposed to overcome that with gimmicks. There is no in-game adjustment for the mistakes we made and then losing our long snapper.
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I never said he was the only one responsible. I said DA, Hoffman, and the players share the responsibility too. Don’t forget that we were punting for a reason. I hope you are right, I want my team to win and score points, but I don’t think Knapp is the guy. We kept Saunders and gave him an extension for a reason too.
September 14th, 2012 at 10:09 am
Its so funny how you guys blame Knapp for when our guys fumble, jump offsides, drop passes, long snapper gets injured, and WRs run the wrong routes.
Your agenda has been exposed.
September 14th, 2012 at 10:11 am
We’ve been here before, gents. We’ll win this weekend and a ‘Stay of Execution’ will be granted to Coach Knapp by the posters on this blog . . . until we lose again. Then the town folk will return with their pickaxes, pitchforks and torches in anticipation of his public beheading.
September 14th, 2012 at 10:12 am
“Good play callers adjust to overcome mistakes by using the wildcat and Tebow.”
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I said that?
Wow
I’m done arguing with you.
September 14th, 2012 at 10:14 am
Raider O Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 10:09 am
Our players are responsible for a 19 pt swing. And you think that Knapp was supposed to overcome that with gimmicks. There is no in-game adjustment for the mistakes we made and then losing our long snapper.
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I never said he was the only one responsible. I said DA, Hoffman, and the players share the responsibility too. Don’t forget that we were punting for a reason. I hope you are right, I want my team to win and score points, but I don’t think Knapp is the guy. We kept Saunders and gave him an extension for a reason too.
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How is it DA’s fault Kelly jumped offsides? Or any of the other mistakes we made. Im not going to list them again, you ignore them anyways.
Hoffman – that guy is a joke. No doubt. He should be really worried abou this job right now. But you dont see everyone piling on him, they pile on the guy that is easy to pick on in Knapp.
You may not think Knapp is the guy, I may not think he is either. But NOBODY is the guy that can control if the players show up on national TV. D17 is a game. DMC is a gamer, CP3 is a gamer. These guys show up when it counts. Heck, even Jacoby does.
Other players tho find a way to lose. Time and time again. Im sick of it. Al is gone. There are no more excuses. People around the league think we have a VERY good coaching staff as a whole. I respect their opinions. It’s time our “athletes” get on the same page as CP3 and co and start delivering to their potential.
Every one of our mistakes was stupid and preventable. We dont make those mistakes and we overcome the loss of Condo in a close game.
September 14th, 2012 at 10:16 am
Agenda?!
You People are funny.
September 14th, 2012 at 10:16 am
Raider Riff Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 9:59 am
Still got the blinders on I see.
Because I look at the entire situation with Knapp. I just dont make blanket statements. Evaluate each one of his previous situations and you will see that he wasnt the problem. If you think Tavarius Jackson and a stoned out Vick were not the problem, then so be it, just say so.
There is a reason Knapp keeps getting hired. But none of that matters.
Our players are responsible for a 19 pt swing. And you think that Knapp was supposed to overcome that with gimmicks. There is no in-game adjustment for the mistakes we made and then losing our long snapper.
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I think you are the one with blinders dude. Tavarius NEVER played for Knapp. He had Hassleback. Let me guess he didn’t execute either. And if Vick was so bad & not professional, then why didn’t they bench him. Unless the owner MANDATED that Vick play.
You keep harping the “Knapp keeps getting a job” line. Well, guess what Jim Mora kept hiring his dumbarse to be an OC. Before Allen, Kiffin was the last person to give him an OC job. And, like you told me yesterday with Walsh & Bresnahan, those 2 guys don’t have jobs in the league do they?
I wouldn’t classify this as a ringing endorsement of his credentials.
September 14th, 2012 at 10:16 am
What is with these lisfranc injuries?…Could it possibly be the fancy new style cleats the players wear?…I don’t recall ever hearing about this injury until this decade.
September 14th, 2012 at 10:17 am
How is it DA’s fault Kelly jumped offsides?
I always wondered how, if you’re looking at the ball, how do you jump offside?
So…would that be on DA? Discipline?
September 14th, 2012 at 10:17 am
I used to play pick-up hoops in the sweltering summertime heat in Vegas for years.
I tried to play maybe a year ago after a few years off, and I thought I was about to go Korey Stringer right on the court.
No more of that.
September 14th, 2012 at 10:17 am
I want to WIN. That’s my agenda.
September 14th, 2012 at 10:18 am
SanDiusky was the team that was supposed to adjust. They couldnt stop us.
But before we made them adjust, we coughed up the ball.
And before we made them punt, we kept giving them 3rd down conversions with stupid penalties.
And then when we could have made them not so aggressive with our run game by utilizing a perfectly timed reverse that would have caused their LBs to back off DMC, we botched a simple toss.
And when we finally made them adjust, the WR’s didnt take advantage of the deep threat that became available.
We have the superior talent. Which meant we had more scheme options. It was our duty to dictate. And we were until we had dumb mistakes.
September 14th, 2012 at 10:20 am
Raider O Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 10:17 am
I want to WIN. That’s my agenda.
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Me too.
What I dont want is a magic show. I dont expect to turn the ball over practically 5 times and expect Knapp to pull a win out of his a55.
Winning requires players to not do stupid things.
September 14th, 2012 at 10:20 am
Hwnrdr Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 10:17 am
How is it DA’s fault Kelly jumped offsides?
I always wondered how, if you’re looking at the ball, how do you jump offside?
So…would that be on DA? Discipline?
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A HC who doesn’t know he doesn’t have a legit backup LS, or a backup who didn’t practice? Should we blame Goethel?
September 14th, 2012 at 10:22 am
It’s crazy that every year we keep drafting these WR’s, they look good to great for a year or so……and we sit today without any real NFL quality at WR.
September 14th, 2012 at 10:22 am
Hwnrdr Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 10:17 am
How is it DA’s fault Kelly jumped offsides?
I always wondered how, if you’re looking at the ball, how do you jump offside?
So…would that be on DA? Discipline?
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If DA continues to let it happen, yeah, its on him.
Kellys offsides problem was evident in camp. Now he’s doing it in the game.
Should Kelly be blaming DA for not benching him? Nope. He needs to blame himself. Just like we need to hold Kelly accountable. He’s a big boy, he can take it. And if he cant, GTFO.
No more dummies on this team. Its time to show up when it matters most. Not wilt under the bright lights.
September 14th, 2012 at 10:23 am
TK was having the same issue in TC, and they should know about it because he had the the same issues last year too.
September 14th, 2012 at 10:25 am
How is it DA’s fault Kelly jumped offsides?
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Hmmmm, I am thinking at the point Kelly isn’t really good at anticipating the QBs snap count, seems like the dude is always getting burned. Maybe the coach should tell him to go off the movement of the ball, instead of trying to figure out the QBs candance (sic).
Inmates should not run the Asylum…coaches need to coach the players. Get sick of hearing that it is not the coaches fault if the players are not excuting the plays.
September 14th, 2012 at 10:25 am
Raider O Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 10:20 am
Hwnrdr Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 10:17 am
How is it DA’s fault Kelly jumped offsides?
I always wondered how, if you’re looking at the ball, how do you jump offside?
So…would that be on DA? Discipline?
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A HC who doesn’t know he doesn’t have a legit backup LS, or a backup who didn’t practice? Should we blame Goethel?
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By all accounts, Goethel did a fine enough job in practice during his minute amount of reps to satisfy the coaches.
I guarantee he wasnt rolling em in back then.
But then, under the lights on Monday Night, he buckled under the pressure.
But by that point, the game was already out of hand. We werent going to overcome the loss of Condo after we spotted them 10 points with Streaters f-up and Kelly’s incompetence. To expect otherwise is asinine.
September 14th, 2012 at 10:26 am
da abd reggie need to be held accountable for their mistakes….no honeymoons in oakland
September 14th, 2012 at 10:26 am
Inmates should not run the Asylum…coaches need to coach the players. Get sick of hearing that it is not the coaches fault if the players are not excuting the plays.
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Thank You!
September 14th, 2012 at 10:27 am
DutchRaider77 Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 10:25 am
How is it DA’s fault Kelly jumped offsides?
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Hmmmm, I am thinking at the point Kelly isn’t really good at anticipating the QBs snap count, seems like the dude is always getting burned. Maybe the coach should tell him to go off the movement of the ball, instead of trying to figure out the QBs candance (sic).
Inmates should not run the Asylum…coaches need to coach the players. Get sick of hearing that it is not the coaches fault if the players are not excuting the plays.
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When has it ever been the players fault with our org? Its ALWAYS been on the coaches with Al in charge.
We’ve never had accountability. It’s always the refs, the league, Denvers dirty blocking scheme, and someone else. Sometimes its warranted, sometimes its not.
This one was on the players.
September 14th, 2012 at 10:28 am
Yep,
go back to JLH before he got alligator arms with that knockout blow to Weddle. Then glass Schilens, then it was Murphy who also got alligator armitis and a trail of injuries. Then it was Ford. Then it was Moore with the hammy. Then it was Criner and the ankle. Now it’s Ford again, and I doubt he’ll ever be a player for the Silver and Black. By then the org will have processed him out like they did Schilens and Murph.
So the only 2 who have held up without a scratch are DHB and Streater. But really it’s just DHB. For all the crap we give him, he’s made of iron. We need more WR’s like him. I think Streater is the body type that will stand up to punishment but we’ll have to wait and see.
Good and fair observation that Raider WR’s are made of glass in general.
September 14th, 2012 at 10:29 am
Ya, coaches should coach the players.
If a player needs to be coached into knowing not to jump offsides on 3rd and short, he aint much of a player.
This is so funny. “Kelly wasnt coached enough”. Only a loser finds a way to screw up TWICE the SAME WAY on the SAME DRIVE!
Oh, but nobody told him not to do it. Classic.
September 14th, 2012 at 10:29 am
streater fumbles…
September 14th, 2012 at 10:29 am
You value the LS position that you dedicated a roster spot for it and you have the highest paid LS in the league, and you don’t make sure you have a capable backup?
September 14th, 2012 at 10:31 am
But really it’s just DHB. For all the crap we give him, he’s made of iron.
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The man had his head ripped sideways, was taken off on a stretcher and played the next week.
Pretty impressive.
September 14th, 2012 at 10:31 am
Morning/afternoon peoples!
September 14th, 2012 at 10:32 am
DutchRaider77 Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 10:25 am
How is it DA’s fault Kelly jumped offsides?
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Hmmmm, I am thinking at the point Kelly isn’t really good at anticipating the QBs snap count, seems like the dude is always getting burned. Maybe the coach should tell him to go off the movement of the ball, instead of trying to figure out the QBs candance (sic).
Inmates should not run the Asylum…coaches need to coach the players. Get sick of hearing that it is not the coaches fault if the players are not excuting the plays.
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YOU REALLY THINK NOBODY HAS EVER TOLD KELLY TO GO OFF THE BALL?
It was a big story during camp. That exact thing.
By letting the dummies off the hook for their lack of execution, you are letting the inmates run the asylum.
What happened to IQ’s in this place?
September 14th, 2012 at 10:32 am
At this stage, I don’t think you can say TK is “having issues” or “had issues” in camp with jumping offsides.
It IS an issue, like permanately with this dude.
September 14th, 2012 at 10:33 am
When has it ever been the players fault with our org? Its ALWAYS been on the coaches with Al in charge.
We’ve never had accountability. It’s always the refs, the league, Denvers dirty blocking scheme, and someone else. Sometimes its warranted, sometimes its not.
This one was on the players
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I would say it was the opposite in the Davis era, the coaches did not have the power to hold the players accountable. The players did not have to listen to the coach, Davis dictated who played, for the most part.
September 14th, 2012 at 10:33 am
That Streater fumble was pretty mucch a bang-bang play. Should he have tucked the ball under and gone down on first contact? Hindsight says yes obviously. But how many times has a player make a great play by stretching out for the extra yard of space? The space looked like it was there for the taking, but he needs to learn and remember he’s still just a rookie. He needs to learn that the defensive players are taught to tackle the football, punch it, stab it, get to it any way possible. He leared a valuable lesson, and I don’t think Streater is going to be having fumbling issues going forward.
September 14th, 2012 at 10:34 am
Raider O Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 10:29 am
You value the LS position that you dedicated a roster spot for it and you have the highest paid LS in the league, and you don’t make sure you have a capable backup?
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Who says they didnt make sure they had a backup? Do you watch the interviews or just pull opinions out of your a55?
DA said that Goethel was fine in camp.
He buckled under the lights. Players choke, it happens. Not everyone can deliver when it counts. It’s time to weed those guys out.
September 14th, 2012 at 10:35 am
TK is an idiot!
Needs a brain transplant.
September 14th, 2012 at 10:35 am
DutchRaider77 Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 10:33 am
When has it ever been the players fault with our org? Its ALWAYS been on the coaches with Al in charge.
We’ve never had accountability. It’s always the refs, the league, Denvers dirty blocking scheme, and someone else. Sometimes its warranted, sometimes its not.
This one was on the players
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I would say it was the opposite in the Davis era, the coaches did not have the power to hold the players accountable. The players did not have to listen to the coach, Davis dictated who played, for the most part.
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And then he fired and blamed the coaches when things went wrong. Absolving the players of any wrong doing.
September 14th, 2012 at 10:36 am
No more dummies on this team. Its time to show up when it matters most. Not wilt under the bright lights.
Agreed!
September 14th, 2012 at 10:36 am
Good morning Green Party President.
September 14th, 2012 at 10:37 am
Guest123 Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 10:33 am
That Streater fumble was pretty mucch a bang-bang play. Should he have tucked the ball under and gone down on first contact? Hindsight says yes obviously. But how many times has a player make a great play by stretching out for the extra yard of space? The space looked like it was there for the taking, but he needs to learn and remember he’s still just a rookie. He needs to learn that the defensive players are taught to tackle the football, punch it, stab it, get to it any way possible. He leared a valuable lesson, and I don’t think Streater is going to be having fumbling issues going forward.
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I dont think it will be a problem going forward either. It was an honest mistake. It happens. Oh well.
It only cost us 3.
But when it is coupled with Kelly spotting them 7 and then Reece messing up that reverse. It all adds up to a chit-sandwich that is bound to catch up to you and cost you a game.
September 14th, 2012 at 10:39 am
T. Kelly jumps off side while the Raiders have the opposition pinned down and keeps the drive alive.
This is a simulation only!
Question: Dennis Allen are there any reprecussions for players that continually rack up penalties at crucial time of the game?
Answer: NO.
Question: Did you think of taking him out because of this type of penalties? Do you feel the defense get overtaxed by being left on the field too long do to the lack of discipline of T. Kelly much to often
Answer: No. I feel T.Kelly can make up for any undisciplined errors throughtout games by his continual, exceptional play on the field. Next question.
Head coach DA and change in culture? Where is it!
September 14th, 2012 at 10:40 am
Raider O Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 10:36 am
Good morning Green Party President.
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Yo wassup?!
Whats happening to our members?
We need to get out schit together quick, if you guys want me realected.
September 14th, 2012 at 10:40 am
Allen said he had confidence in Goethel based on the way Goethel performed in practice.
“He’s worked on snapping the ball,” Allen said. “Actually he’s done a nice job in practice. It’s obviously a lot different when you get in a game-like situation. He was put in a tough situation and it hurt us.”
Goethel said he last long-snapped in a game back in high school. That was seven years ago or so. He said his practice time is limited to before full-team practices
When asked how many snaps Goethel gets during practice during a typical week, Lechler said: “Zero.”
Yet, there he was, the man on the spot when Condo went down.
How he got there is rather curious, too.
“(Allen) asked if I knew how to long snap, and I was the only one at camp that stood out,” Goethel said. “That’s kind of how I got put in there.”
From a previous thread.
Zero!!!
September 14th, 2012 at 10:40 am
I’ll be back peeps
September 14th, 2012 at 10:41 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 10:32 am
At this stage, I don’t think you can say TK is “having issues” or “had issues” in camp with jumping offsides.
It IS an issue, like permanately with this dude.
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As far as Im concerned, he does it again this week and we cut him. Send a strong message that this chit isnt going to be tolerated anymore.
Wake these guys up out of the fog they are in.
He’s a REALLY talented player that can produce. But if he’s giving up 3rd and short conversions on a routine basis, he could be the second coming of Howie Long and he’s still no good to us.
Our standards have become so freaking low. Guys like Greg Towsend and Howie never did this stupid stuff. Tim Brown ran the right routes and caught the damn ball. Cliff Branch made the big play when it counted. We deserve better than what we got from our players on Monday.
September 14th, 2012 at 10:41 am
Riff.
“Im calm Bob. I just have never once heard you have a wrong take on here til now. You, twocents, YougAmerican, and Chris from NY are normally 100% right. So forgive me for getting frustrated when I see one of the more respected semi’s completely miss the boat on this one.”
- First of all, I’ve had plenty of wrong takes over the years!.
But seriously, I don’t think we “completely missed the boat on this one”.
It’s one thing to concede the long-snapping issue was a huge factor, probably the biggest when you consider the Coaching Staff did NOTHING about it, bu that’s called bad coaching my fiend.
And I don’t mean not having a back-up plan for Condo coming out of the game, I mean not adjusting protection schemes accordingly when you just lost the guy who calls them, what where they thinking?.
- I’m also talking about getting a delay of game penalty when facing a 3rd and 10 at SD’s 11 yard line.
- I’m also talking about the first 3rd quarter drive where we were facing a 1st and 5 at our own 49 yard line and we could not convert on 3 downs, then deciding to go for it and getting called for having 12 men on the field, bringing up the Punt unit and watching the debacle start.
- I’m also talking about the second drive in the 3rd quarter, where we were facing a 2nd down and 3 and could not convert.
- I’m also talking about our 3rd drive in the third quarter where actually lost 3 yards after McFaden got tackled behind the LOS on first down and 2 short incompletions to McFaden followed.
We lost the game right there because the offense stalled and failed to convert and we could not punt.
September 14th, 2012 at 10:43 am
da is unprepared, ignorant or worse lying….
September 14th, 2012 at 10:47 am
I don’t expect BigMac to come out and blow Krappy away, especially on record, and will defend the scheme, although most of us in this blog and others can see that the failure of the Krappy system precedes his previous stint with the Raiders and with other teams.
Also, I don’t expect BigMac to tell us the truth about the financial troubles that the Raiders have, thus not signing first-tier premier players, only signing second and third tier players for the one-year minimum.
So with all of that said, it’s easy to see that BigMac doesn’t have high expectations for his first year here, and that for all intents and purposes this is a rebuilding year and a work-in-progress.
September 14th, 2012 at 10:47 am
YOU REALLY THINK NOBODY HAS EVER TOLD KELLY TO GO OFF THE BALL?
It was a big story during camp. That exact thing.
By letting the dummies off the hook for their lack of execution, you are letting the inmates run the asylum.
What happened to IQ’s in this place?
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Did you see the story how Watt had learned the Dolphins snap count from watching HardNocks? That Watt was rushing the passer using the QB candence, not going off the motion of the ball? Some players can do this and are good at it, Tommy Kelly doesn’t seem to be one of these guys. Maybe you are right, someone did tell him this in camp and he ignored it and is doing it his OWN way. So what then? This is not the coaches job to step in and fix this?
September 14th, 2012 at 10:49 am
Since McFadden’s injury proneness earned him the nickname “McFragile” what do we call Ford now?
September 14th, 2012 at 10:49 am
Players in the NFL MAKE PLAYS!!! No room for excuses and feel-good statements! Coaches need to perform as much as the players week-to-week! Let’s get on with business and quit this “I’ll show up on Sunday for a paycheck Krap that has existed too Fuc**n long!
September 14th, 2012 at 10:49 am
Alright gents,
Im out for the night. Gonna go play some pickup basketball.
Relieve some stress.
Have a good one. Even you O, you stubborn prick you. hahaha.
September 14th, 2012 at 10:51 am
Since McFadden’s injury proneness earned him the nickname “McFragile” what do we call Ford now?
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You can call him an ex-Raider. Doubt he ever suits up with the S&B again. By the time he’s ready, the regime will have moved on.
September 14th, 2012 at 10:51 am
Reggie said he dont think Plax could help us.Stupid fkn bastrd.
September 14th, 2012 at 10:52 am
DMAC,
You are not getting elected.
We need a guy who shows up. ODB wasn’t born abroad, so I’m going to vote for him.
Long Live The ODB!
September 14th, 2012 at 10:52 am
There are no excuses for Kelly’s penalties, some people here said the G was moving on both plays but that’s irrelevant because of Kelly’s history, the thing is after his two 3rd down flags kept that drive alive, SD was still only at their 41 yard line, they marched down the field for 59 yards and converted on 3rd and 5 and 3rd and 6 before scoring their TD, Kelly did not “spot them 7 points” Riffster, that’s stretching it.
September 14th, 2012 at 10:53 am
but they should have high expectations, this team was way too close
September 14th, 2012 at 10:54 am
Good night Riff.
September 14th, 2012 at 10:54 am
Plax Burress is just what the Rx ordered. Big tall redzone target with good hands. It’s the difference from driving deep into enemy territory and settling for 3 and expecting to come away with 7 points consistently. And he’s still out there. WTF is wrong with this picture? Ford is done, so we need the scoring option and we don’t have it.
September 14th, 2012 at 10:55 am
Zopi Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 10:47 am
I don’t expect BigMac to come out and blow Krappy away, especially on record, and will defend the scheme, although most of us in this blog and others can see that the failure of the Krappy system precedes his previous stint with the Raiders and with other teams.
Also, I don’t expect BigMac to tell us the truth about the financial troubles that the Raiders have, thus not signing first-tier premier players, only signing second and third tier players for the one-year minimum.
So with all of that said, it’s easy to see that BigMac doesn’t have high expectations for his first year here, and that for all intents and purposes this is a rebuilding year and a work-in-progress.
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True, but I disagree with the last statement. Mike Haynes said during the Las Vegas party for Al this past summer that Reggie told him we should be competing for the playoffs & that if Reggie is the type of guy that if he tells you something, he believes it.
September 14th, 2012 at 10:56 am
Mr. I played college football so don’t argue with me.
September 14th, 2012 at 10:58 am
Bob,
I hear what you are saying that SD still had 60 yards to go for the TD. But the defense was demoralized to give them a fresh set of downs not once but twice. There is a mental aspect to those types of plays. Shoulders start to sag, body language isn’t as aggressive. It didn’t help matters when TK was taken out and left to stew on the sidelines. It destroyed a lot of positive momentum the defense was showing early on. And it seemed to put some life into Rivers eyes seeing the letdown.
September 14th, 2012 at 10:59 am
krappys offense is a mental letdown….
September 14th, 2012 at 11:00 am
Will be in Oaktown for the Pitts game next week! Don’t wanna go see a 0-2 team take on the Squeelers! Win the damm Miami game this week and let’s take on whoever the f**k we play damm it!!!
September 14th, 2012 at 11:01 am
Man, I sure hope the Krapp apologists and supporters are right.
I don’t think I can take a return to having to rely on the defense to nearly pitch a shut-out in order to have a shot at winning.
I know a boring, ineffective offense when I see one. All the rationalizing and BS in the world isn’t going to convince me my eyes are wrong.
Krapp doesn’t have much time to get this thing turned around.
If this offense continues to languish while the losses mount, this whole thing will unravel in a hurry.
And if Tits Allen loses control of the locker room due to players rebelling over his hand picked OC, Knapp will not only have doomed the 2012 Raider season but also put in jeopardy the job of the guy who hired him.
Raids better show they can score some points. Not in a few weeks. Now.
September 14th, 2012 at 11:03 am
i played pop warner, i noes futballs!
puteth thy pants!
September 14th, 2012 at 11:03 am
guest123 Says:
Bob,
I hear what you are saying that SD still had 60 yards to go for the TD. But the defense was demoralized to give them a fresh set of downs not once but twice. There is a mental aspect to those types of plays. Shoulders start to sag, body language isn’t as aggressive. It didn’t help matters when TK was taken out and left to stew on the sidelines. It destroyed a lot of positive momentum the defense was showing early on. And it seemed to put some life into Rivers eyes seeing the letdown.
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Definitely Guest, you speak the truth, not making excuses for the guy, but the rest of the Defense and the Coaches still had no answer for what followed…I’m only mentioning this because The Riff keeps saying TK spotted them 7 points and that’s a major stretch.
September 14th, 2012 at 11:07 am
Raider O Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 10:52 am
DMAC,
You are not getting elected.
We need a guy who shows up. ODB wasn’t born abroad, so I’m going to vote for him.
Long Live The ODB!
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You damn back stabber!
You don’t get to vote anyways. (you stopped smoking)
lol
September 14th, 2012 at 11:07 am
Raiders MLB Rolando McClain is “coming off what might be his best NFL game,” according to the Contra Costa Times.
Pro Football Focus wrote that McClain “had perhaps the most dominant performance against the run of any linebacker in Week 1.” The box score of seven tackles with five unassisted doesn’t tell the whole story. McClain got off blocks, filled gaps and aligned a defense that shut down the Chargers’ ground attack.
Sorry, Rolando. I didn’t even notice your superb performance (no sarcasm intended), I was too busy beating my head against the wall watching TK jump offsides and Goethel snap grounders to Lechler like he plays 3rd base for the A’s. Congrats Ro!
September 14th, 2012 at 11:09 am
Who backs up Lee and Spencer?
September 14th, 2012 at 11:10 am
“There is a mental aspect to those types of plays. Shoulders start to sag, body language isn’t as aggressive. ”
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Like we see with the Knapp-time offense.
September 14th, 2012 at 11:11 am
Romac needs to show up ever game. Not just one. He did look very good last week. Now we need that consistency.
September 14th, 2012 at 11:11 am
Players make mistakes in every game and for every team, a huge part of coaching is minimizing their impact and overcoming those mistakes, when you fail to score a TD until there’s 1 minute left and the opponent is trading yards for time, it’s a total team failure, coaches and players should be held accountable.
September 14th, 2012 at 11:11 am
DMAC Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 11:11 am
Romac needs to show up ever game. Not just one. He did look very good last week. Now we need that consistency.
Exactly!!!
September 14th, 2012 at 11:12 am
Mutiny in the Raider blog! We need Sunday to come fast. We will know more after the 2nd game.
September 14th, 2012 at 11:14 am
Bob Marley Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 11:11 am
Players make mistakes in every game and for every team, a huge part of coaching is minimizing their impact and overcoming those mistakes, when you fail to score a TD until there’s 1 minute left and the opponent is trading yards for time, it’s a total team failure, coaches and players should be held accountable.
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That’s it right there! Marley gets it.
September 14th, 2012 at 11:15 am
Never been a fan of Knapp, but I’ll wait a few more games to judge him thus far.
We’ll run the rock much better w/ Wiz in there.
+ CP3’s fav target hits the field also.
2 difference makers.
September 14th, 2012 at 11:17 am
I recall many people saying McClain was garbage and should have been cut in the off-season.
September 14th, 2012 at 11:18 am
Bob Marley Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 11:17 am
I recall many people saying McClain was garbage and should have been cut in the off-season.
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Not I
September 14th, 2012 at 11:19 am
Raiders OC Gregg Knapp made it clear that Denarius Moore’s (hamstring) snaps would be monitored at Miami in Week 2.
Moore will play after a second straight limited practice on Thursday, but he’s a shaky fantasy starter as more than a flex option. “You’ve got to manage him because he’s been out for so long,” Knapp said. “You try and give him a chance to win critical situations, third downs, red zone, certain first and second downs also.” Interestingly enough, GM Reggie McKenzie referred to Moore — not Darrius Heyward-Bey — as his “No. 1 guy” at receiver on Thursday.
Related: Darrius Heyward-Bey
Source: Contra Costa Times
September 14th, 2012 at 11:20 am
Twinkle toes looked pretty good last night.
Still can’t block for schit though.
September 14th, 2012 at 11:21 am
Dolphins rookie RB Lamar Miller is expected to be active this week with Daniel Thomas (concussion) in doubt.
Still a liability in pass protection, Miller was a healthy scratch in the opener. While we like his long-term potential, Miller will likely split backup duties with Jorvorskie Lane and Marcus Thigpen versus the Raiders.
Source: Miami Herald
September 14th, 2012 at 11:22 am
What up Banana, DMAC, Marley – - Nice to see some level heads instead of some of the more common dwellers on the blog.
September 14th, 2012 at 11:22 am
Wassup wit it
September 14th, 2012 at 11:23 am
DMAC.
I don’t even remember who they were, but there many, just messing with them, it’s all good.
A few of us wanted to see what he could do under DA-Tarver and JFB was McClain’s # 1 supporter.
September 14th, 2012 at 11:23 am
Bob Marley Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 11:11 am
Players make mistakes in every game and for every team, a huge part of coaching is minimizing their impact and overcoming those mistakes, when you fail to score a TD until there’s 1 minute left and the opponent is trading yards for time, it’s a total team failure, coaches and players should be held accountable.
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Exactly.
Well said Bob as usuall.
September 14th, 2012 at 11:24 am
Let’s stop the Knapp hating and start the Cockring hating. I need another post. I need my Raider fix.
September 14th, 2012 at 11:25 am
Bob Marley Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 11:23 am
DMAC.
I don’t even remember who they were, but there many, just messing with them, it’s all good.
A few of us wanted to see what he could do under DA-Tarver and JFB was McClain’s # 1 supporter.
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Just go back and read any post regarding McClain. That’s all you need
September 14th, 2012 at 11:25 am
Bob Marley Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 11:23 am
DMAC.
I don’t even remember who they were, but there many, just messing with them, it’s all good.
A few of us wanted to see what he could do under DA-Tarver and JFB was McClain’s # 1 supporter.
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You aint never lied
September 14th, 2012 at 11:25 am
Fire hoffman & knapp out of a cannon!
September 14th, 2012 at 11:25 am
Words of wisdom from the NFL’s best Offensive coordinator
http://www.raiders.com/media-vault/videos/Greg-Knapp-Thursday/af1897e6-79ff-49a7-8ede-7988ea2dde02
September 14th, 2012 at 11:27 am
What up, RaiderReign. Can’t wait for Sunday morning.
September 14th, 2012 at 11:31 am
I was in the McClain is horrible crowd.
It took a coaching change for him to bring hiz azz to camp in shape?
I am glad he has looked better. If he can string togather a few more games he may lose the McCheese moniker.
September 14th, 2012 at 11:32 am
I cannot put my finger on it however, Knapp looks slippery….
September 14th, 2012 at 11:34 am
761 anyone?
September 14th, 2012 at 11:35 am
Huff, and mitchell…lol
September 14th, 2012 at 11:35 am
I was down on McClain at times but never wanted him cut. Enjoyed some of the McClain koolaid from JFB this offseason and I even got behind the Death Ro nickname someone here came up with.
September 14th, 2012 at 11:36 am
Hanson, and Adams
September 14th, 2012 at 11:36 am
Thec Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 11:35 am
Huff, and mitchell…lol
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“Someone please call 9-1-1″
September 14th, 2012 at 11:36 am
DMAC,
good day GreenParty prez !!!
September 14th, 2012 at 11:37 am
The Big Banana Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 11:27 am
What up, RaiderReign. Can’t wait for Sunday morning.
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Yeah… All this talk is great for the week, but Sunday is really all that matters.
Thanks Thec for the Knapp video. Just shows how little people on the blog really know.
September 14th, 2012 at 11:37 am
Knapps offenses always seem to argue and poorly execute. And i think hoffmans a soccer coach.
September 14th, 2012 at 11:37 am
I think Hanson is strictly a nickel back.
I forgot about Adams.
September 14th, 2012 at 11:37 am
DMAC Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 11:36 am
Thec Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 11:35 am
Huff, and mitchell…lol
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“Someone please call 9-1-1″
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ROFLMAO…Or Napa state, which ever you prefer…
September 14th, 2012 at 11:38 am
Where did Bones wind up?
September 14th, 2012 at 11:38 am
R8ER MIKE Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 11:36 am
DMAC,
good day GreenParty prez !!!
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What up ODB!
Not 2 many post from my playuh patna ODB.
Either you’ve been working hard or puffing hard?
September 14th, 2012 at 11:38 am
Javon Ringer (elbow, out) revealed that he could have lost his arm had doctors not gotten his elbow infection under control.
Ringer was lucky the Titans caught this quickly. He’s been ruled out for Week 2, but could have lost his career if they hadn’t detected the infection in his left arm sooner. Ringer’s timetable to return to action remains uncertain. Source: Jim Wyatt on Twitter
Holy crap! Just when you think your having a bad day. . .
September 14th, 2012 at 11:39 am
On the D-chart, they have hanson backing up both CB positions. He could play in a pinch if someone goes down.
If thats the case then you will be calling 9-1-1.
September 14th, 2012 at 11:41 am
Too funny, no one wanted to hear this when i said it. I told you EVERYONE IS ON A ONE YEAR TRY OUT!!!! Everyone will need to earn their spot for 2013, and it sounds as if big mck is in full rebuild mode and will cast out the hold overs that dont cut the mustard regardless of resume, hype, or contract size!!! YYYYEEEEEESSSS!!!!!
3 guys I think on offense that need huge years or they may not stick.
Dmac and ford, they must prove they are durable and can be relied upon, Ford may e gone for the year and may have seen his last snap as a raider. he has very little trade value, because he has not stayed healthy as a pro and he couldnt stay healthy in college either. Kick returners dont usally bring major value in trades, unless thier names are dion sanders, and eric metcalf. dmac is the same, the best in the nfl when healthy but when is that ever the case? Dmac i beleive he still has decent trade value because someone will hope they can find a way to keep him healthy, worth more of a risk than trading for a kick returner number 3-4 wr.
Palmer is another holdover that is on the hot seat. he cooled it off some on sunday, but he isnt out of the woods by any stretch. Will palmer play the steady patient jason campbell like methodical turn over free ball he played on monday? i hope so, that was the best he has been over the last 2 years. For all the talk about how great his deep ball is it hasnt been any better than what we got in 2011, hit and miss. This so called great deep ball skill has been devalued in the new offense, and he has been far better throwing under neath.
Palmer may have revived a little trade value on monday as well, so his stock is higher than it has been since the first time he wore a raider uniform. If he lays an egg vs the fins a team we should beat it will be a disaster, and could be the beginning of the end for him here.
dont believe me? Well take big mck’s word for it then
Q: Are you looking at guys, so many of them on one-year contracts, to prove themselves?
McKenzie:There’s a constant evaluation. I’m evaluating the game and sometimes I isolate on certain one-on-one situations or stuff like that. Mostly it’s just evaluating the game. The next morning, evaluating the tape, seeing if players are coming to play.
September 14th, 2012 at 11:41 am
Thec Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 11:39 am
On the D-chart, they have hanson backing up both CB positions. He could play in a pinch if someone goes down.
If thats the case then you will be calling 9-1-1.
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Before dialing 9-1-1, I’ll try a microphone Chekwa
September 14th, 2012 at 11:41 am
2013
DE CB TE
September 14th, 2012 at 11:43 am
forgot about Chekwa…Could raise him up.
September 14th, 2012 at 11:45 am
798.branden.w Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 11:38 am
Javon Ringer (elbow, out) revealed that he could have lost his arm had doctors not gotten his elbow infection under control.
Ringer was lucky the Titans caught this quickly. He’s been ruled out for Week 2, but could have lost his career if they hadn’t detected the infection in his left arm sooner. Ringer’s timetable to return to action remains uncertain. Source: Jim Wyatt on Twitter
Holy crap! Just when you think your having a bad day. . .
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How about a little Friday Raider Trivia? As I cannot remember the answer, it will be fun…Who was the one-eyed (blind in one eye) Raider RB/FB?
September 14th, 2012 at 11:46 am
u guys apparently need the good doctor to say it how it is. forget about knapp getting fired. won’t happen. not for now anyway. it would take 4 horrendous games for him to be stripped of his playcalling duties. the raiders as an organization have committed to these coaches and schemes.
as for my opinion, i do feel the playcalling lacked adjustments. he seemed to keep calling the same plays as if there were only a few available. but i need to see more.
the wr corp was missing one of it’s good players, and the o-line was porous. we’ll see if the addition of moore and wiz, and a week of “fixing things” will help.
i was disappointed for sure. but perhaps we have to give some credit to the chargers for playing well. their defense seemed to be doing the right things to stop mcfadden and the deep throws, and got a lot pressure on the pocket.
September 14th, 2012 at 11:46 am
makus davicus looks like a guy i’ve seen hanging outside of a tavern smoking a cig.
September 14th, 2012 at 11:47 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 11:41 am
Too funny, no one wanted to hear this when i said it. I told you EVERYONE IS ON A ONE YEAR TRY OUT!!!! Everyone will need to earn their spot for 2013, and it sounds as if big mck is in full rebuild mode and will cast out the hold overs that dont cut the mustard regardless of resume, hype, or contract size!!! YYYYEEEEEESSSS!!!!!
3 guys I think on offense that need huge years or they may not stick.
Dmac and ford, they must prove they are durable and can be relied upon, Ford may e gone for the year and may have seen his last snap as a raider. he has very little trade value, because he has not stayed healthy as a pro and he couldnt stay healthy in college either. Kick returners dont usally bring major value in trades, unless thier names are dion sanders, and eric metcalf. dmac is the same, the best in the nfl when healthy but when is that ever the case? Dmac i beleive he still has decent trade value because someone will hope they can find a way to keep him healthy, worth more of a risk than trading for a kick returner number 3-4 wr.
Palmer is another holdover that is on the hot seat. he cooled it off some on sunday, but he isnt out of the woods by any stretch. Will palmer play the steady patient jason campbell like methodical turn over free ball he played on monday? i hope so, that was the best he has been over the last 2 years. For all the talk about how great his deep ball is it hasnt been any better than what we got in 2011, hit and miss. This so called great deep ball skill has been devalued in the new offense, and he has been far better throwing under neath.
Palmer may have revived a little trade value on monday as well, so his stock is higher than it has been since the first time he wore a raider uniform. If he lays an egg vs the fins a team we should beat it will be a disaster, and could be the beginning of the end for him here.
dont believe me? Well take big mck’s word for it then
Q: Are you looking at guys, so many of them on one-year contracts, to prove themselves?
McKenzie:There’s a constant evaluation. I’m evaluating the game and sometimes I isolate on certain one-on-one situations or stuff like that. Mostly it’s just evaluating the game. The next morning, evaluating the tape, seeing if players are coming to play.
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That’s great so Mike Goodson & Biesel are safe then right? Why keep talented players around?
September 14th, 2012 at 11:47 am
How about a little Friday Raider Trivia? As I cannot remember the answer, it will be fun…Who was the one-eyed (blind in one eye) Raider RB/FB?
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Easy $$$
Joe Aska
September 14th, 2012 at 11:47 am
Just last nite we saw gb attack a 2 deep d with runs between the tackles to open up some deep shots… dink and dunk will not bring those safeties down… our game was like the tampa bay sb without 5 interceptions…
September 14th, 2012 at 11:48 am
Raider Riff took me to task for saying “While Reece could have given Jones a better feed, Jones definitely took his eyes off the ball.”
So I went back and watched the replay.
After further review….I have reversed my decision.
It is not clear that Jones took his eyes off the ball and I happily place all the blame on Reece.
September 14th, 2012 at 11:48 am
JOE ASKA..
September 14th, 2012 at 11:48 am
How about a little Friday Raider Trivia? As I cannot remember the answer, it will be fun…Who was the one-eyed (blind in one eye) Raider RB/FB?
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I’m gonna guess . . . BeechDawg
He’s always on here talking about his one-eyed fullback.
September 14th, 2012 at 11:48 am
DMAC Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 11:38 am
R8ER MIKE Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 11:36 am
DMAC,
good day GreenParty prez !!!
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What up ODB!
Not 2 many post from my playuh patna ODB.
Either you’ve been working hard or puffing hard?
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a lot of both sir !!
like they say, if you wanna play like a sport, you gotta pay like a sport !!
September 14th, 2012 at 11:48 am
Gotta run peoples
No worries Sunday. We win!
Go A’s!
Go Dubs!
Go Cal Bears! (fire Tedford)
Go Raiders!
Ya’ll have a solid weekend
September 14th, 2012 at 11:51 am
The emergence of romac has been sudden but not entirely unexpected. Romac is a classic raider case, in that he was drafted with unbelievable talent, and simply has not produced. I guy that was so talented that he may not have had to work very hard in college. he found out quickly though that failure to work in the nfl means you are going to have your lunch eaten by hungrier players week after week.
Romac’s refusal to acknowledge the learning curve in the nfl as rookie was a clear warning sign that he would be a bit like darrel russel. only russell made an immediate impact and then badly faded, as he began to be less and less dedicated.
I believe romacs failure was a direct reflection of the coaching staff, and the lack of accountability fostered by a coddling owner that loved his players over coaches, and would let the in,mates run the asylum.
suddenly romac has bought in? yes because he is a hold over that sorely under performed, and big mck has made it clear, get your act together or else.
This makes me wonder about all f the super talented players we have had that have grossly loafed about slogging form week to week losing at every turn. how many wins would we have had if Davis had cracked the whip and allowed his coaches to do the same. Davis was from an era where players policed themselves, this day an age you need the coach to police the players as well.
i really like what big mck is doing
September 14th, 2012 at 11:51 am
Bob Marley Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 11:17 am
I recall many people saying McClain was garbage and should have been cut in the off-season.
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Half of them have changed their names by now.
September 14th, 2012 at 11:52 am
DMAC..
be safe Prez !!
GreenParty rules !!
September 14th, 2012 at 11:56 am
KoolKell Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 11:51 am
Bob Marley Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 11:17 am
I recall many people saying McClain was garbage and should have been cut in the off-season.
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Half of them have changed their names by now.
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i said he was garbage and he has been. i knew he would need one more chance before a decision could be made. however, i am not on the bandwagon. i know what i know. he has not become a stud yet. he made some nice plays. it’s a promising start. but he is far from there yet, and in my opinion, still behind burris and wheeler. get more tackles, make more plays, be an actual stud instead of a potential one, and then i’ll believe.
September 14th, 2012 at 11:57 am
Micheal Bush gained 54 yds in 12 carries after Forte went down last night.
If we had retained Bush and had the tandem lined up DMAC/Bush, finesse and power running to form the basis of our offense we would have dominated SD. SD could never stop both DMAC and Bush. Combine that with power blocking and long passes, we could send crap-azz Jones across the middle as a pass catcher, WCO style, to get out on the flats and into space, to bust off several big runs.
Of course the brilliant posters here claim that RB’s like Bush are “a dime a dozen”, a false claim that has been aptly demonstrated.
So now instead of an anchored quick strike offense we have the dink n’ dunk where players strengths are not taken into account at all, while Knapp is sweating bullets with his nose stuck in a truncated play book on the side lines, trying to shed the nightmare.
No adaptation, no adjustment, just keep playing like the paper says while everything blows sky-high.
Big, dumb Reggie is married to the scheme also, according to his own interview yesterday.
Okay big Reg, get as stupid as you want, since soon we’ll be 0/5. But then again maybe your real plan is to go 0/16, reap the benefits of next year’s draft, and almost entirely dump every one and everything, to start completely anew.
September 14th, 2012 at 11:57 am
Just saw that both Maclin and Jackson are hurt (both are a game time decision)…Vick might be leaving the field on a strechter.
September 14th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
Bengals WLB Thomas Howard is out for the season after tearing his ACL in Wednesday’s practice.
It’s a huge loss for Mike Zimmer’s defense. Howard was the Bengals’ leading tackler last season and their best defender at Baltimore in Week 1, playing all 62 snaps. Core special teamer Dan Skuta is top candidate to take over on the weak side. The 29-year-old Howard was in the final season of a two-year, $6.5 million contract. Source: Joe Reedy on Twitter
I was glad to see the guy get another chance. Sucks for the Bengals.
September 14th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
jay cutler …… BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
that guy stinks. he is terribly over hyped. he throws a million tds, and for a million yrads, but counters that with a million int’s. he has the same issue that our guy has. Forcing the ball and wilting under pressure from the defense.
The difference is palmer seemed to purposely, wisely dial it down and try to play within a ball management style, and protect the ball. he lost patience on 2 throws that could have been picked, and if they were i would have been all over him for it. Cutler needs to do the same, or he could be out of a job soon
Palmer and cutler are almost the same guy
September 14th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
this just in! it’s only been one fuking game!
September 14th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 11:51 am
Bob Marley Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 11:17 am
I recall many people saying McClain was garbage and should have been cut in the off-season.
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Half of them have changed their names by now.
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I still think McClain is garbage and I haven’t changed my name.
By all accounts SD is a second tier team to the extent that that barely beat the Raiders, who are as inept and stupid as they come.
I say line fool McClain up against the Steelers, Broncos, Ravens etc. and see how well he does. If he eats up those teams and comes in with an uber-performance for the season, then he will be judged as fully performing.
September 14th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Players do make mistakes.The difference should be not the same player and the same mistakes.
September 14th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
Still can’t believe we cut Tom Howard in favor or Groves.
September 14th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
RaidersOne Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
…the Raiders, who are as inept and stupid as they come.
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hey, they’re like you! no wonder u spend ur life here.
September 14th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
RaidersOne Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 11:57 am
Micheal Bush gained 54 yds in 12 carries after Forte went down last night.
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It was 14 carries for 54 yards, which works out to 3.9 yards/carry. And that will go significantly if Forte is out and Bush has to carry the load for an extended period.
September 14th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
Yeah, Jay Cutler was lucky he only threw 4 picks…
September 14th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
826.J Hill Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
Still can’t believe we cut Tom Howard in favor or Groves.
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And he was in a contract year too. Cue the ‘Price is Right’ wa-wa music.
September 14th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
I dont know how some of you handle losing the way you do… i just barely stoped beating my kids this morning… and my wifes not in the clear till we win..
September 14th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
Cutler is much worse than CP3. It’s in Cutler’s nature and is his character to be a jackass. He can do very well but soon enough he’ll sabotage his own performance, for instance, as he did in last night’s game, by throwing 4 interceptions.
Normally he doesn’t show his dis-abilities this quickly in the season and plays well the first 6 to 8 games. Culter’s particular talent is blowing up during a critical game, usually with a major injury such as a hangnail pull.
CP3 on the other hand is even tempered and could probably do okay if the material components of the team were competent and in place. Unfortunately, that hasn’t occurred yet for CP3.
September 14th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
dr_robert Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
RaidersOne Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
…the Raiders, who are as inept and stupid as they come.
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hey, they’re like you! no wonder u spend ur life here.
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I see you were here before me this morning, and you wouldn’t know that I spend my whole life here, unless you spent your whole life here too.
For me, I take a long lunch and comment while doing so.
September 14th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
people are so upset about knapp, but what they dont realize is that THIS IS A REBUILD YEAR,
There is a plan in place which is the zbs wco, that will not go away or be altered. in fact it is incumbent upon the players to prove they can fit as the roster will continue to be turned over next off season, finding guys that fit with this current plan.
In fact it would make no sense to try and fit the offense around the strengths of this current group. why?
That would set back the overall plan and retard the development of guys that my be able to fit into the new scheme. it is far better to turn the page take your lumps and turn over the roster. this way you have a clear direction and better evaluate players.
I really like what big mck is doing.
September 14th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
834.. i understand whats happening.. i just dont like rebuilding.
September 14th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
It was 14 carries for 54 yards, which works out to 3.9 yards/carry.
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Almost twice what Dmac picked up.
September 14th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
This was a years for addition not subtraction. One more game and The Raiders are above par.A fews more players and a DC wins a fews more games. The is the Map I was looking for. Now The Raiders are rerouted and lost there GPS.
September 14th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
Let’s stop the Knapp hating and start the Cockring hating
Cockring? Are you serious. The blog is no place for that kind of talk for cryin out loud. LMAO
September 14th, 2012 at 3:10 pm
Bob Marley Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 10:41 am
Riff.
“Im calm Bob. I just have never once heard you have a wrong take on here til now. You, twocents, YougAmerican, and Chris from NY are normally 100% right. So forgive me for getting frustrated when I see one of the more respected semi’s completely miss the boat on this one.”
- First of all, I’ve had plenty of wrong takes over the years!.
But seriously, I don’t think we “completely missed the boat on this one”.
It’s one thing to concede the long-snapping issue was a huge factor, probably the biggest when you consider the Coaching Staff did NOTHING about it, bu that’s called bad coaching my fiend.
And I don’t mean not having a back-up plan for Condo coming out of the game, I mean not adjusting protection schemes accordingly when you just lost the guy who calls them, what where they thinking?.
- I’m also talking about getting a delay of game penalty when facing a 3rd and 10 at SD’s 11 yard line.
- I’m also talking about the first 3rd quarter drive where we were facing a 1st and 5 at our own 49 yard line and we could not convert on 3 downs, then deciding to go for it and getting called for having 12 men on the field, bringing up the Punt unit and watching the debacle start.
- I’m also talking about the second drive in the 3rd quarter, where we were facing a 2nd down and 3 and could not convert.
- I’m also talking about our 3rd drive in the third quarter where actually lost 3 yards after McFaden got tackled behind the LOS on first down and 2 short incompletions to McFaden followed.
We lost the game right there because the offense stalled and failed to convert and we could not punt.
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The lack of adjustments after we lost Condo in the punting game were definitely a coaching blunder. You are right there. But the damage was already done.
And just becasue they screwed that up, doesnt mean Knapp had a crappy gameplan like so many here want to believe.
All those other coach issues you said are minor compared to the HUGE mistakes our players made. Our coaches should not be taking the heat here. Im not nit-picking. This was big mistakes by our players that swung things 19 points, not little stuff that cost us one or two conversions.
You list every conversion as if Knapp was supposed to run the plays himself and never not convert a 3rd down. You are stretching things and looking for the slightest reason to blame the staff.
I really wish I could sit and watch the game with you and we could go over it in person. When you watch then endzone film, its not hard to break down every single play.
September 14th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
Twocents Says:
September 14th, 2012 at 11:48 am
Raider Riff took me to task for saying “While Reece could have given Jones a better feed, Jones definitely took his eyes off the ball.”
So I went back and watched the replay.
After further review….I have reversed my decision.
It is not clear that Jones took his eyes off the ball and I happily place all the blame on Reece.
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My “taking you to task” wasnt meant to be personal. I apologize if it came off that way. There was a lot of frustration boiling over. Your one of my favorite semis twocents.
It takes a real intelligent person to come back here, admit you went and checked the replay, and were wrong.
Were all wrong once in a while. We’re only stupid when were too stubborn to admit it.