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Raiders make four moves

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Saturday, September 15th, 2012 at 2:59 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Press release Saturday afternoon from the Raiders . . .
The Oakland Raiders have made four roster moves prior to their Week 2 contest at Miami Sunday.

The team on Saturday promoted both cornerback Coye Francies and long-snapper Nick Guess from the team’s practice squad, placed wide receiver Jacoby Ford on season-ending reserve/injured, and placed cornerback Ron Bartell on the NFL’s new reserve/injured list that allows him to return later this year.

Francies (fran-SEES), claimed by the Raiders off waivers prior to the final preseason game and waived on Sept. 6, was added to the practice squad on Wednesday. The 6-foot-1, 195-pound Francies played in eight games with the Cleveland Browns from 2009-10 and spent training camp with the Seattle Seahawks this season.

Guess was also signed to the Raiders’ practice squad on Wednesday. The 6-foot-2, 245-pound rookie was in training camp with the San Diego Chargers after signing this offseason as a non-drafted free agent out of Tennessee.

Ford, who injured his foot in a preseason contest at Arizona Aug. 17, underwent surgery on Tuesday. Bartell fractured his shoulder blade in the first half of Monday’s season-opener vs. San Diego.

Bartell under the new NFL rule is allowed to return to practice Oct. 27 and could play as early as Nov. 11 at Baltimore. Each team now is allowed to designate one player with a major injury, defined as a setback that keeps that player from practicing or playing for at least six weeks from the date it occurred, as eligible for reactivation later in the same season.

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  • Dakota

    ND baby!

  • Try Some Reality

    And Dmac rushes for over 100 yds

    =================================

    Agree. I need to see a 100-yard game from McFadden tomorrow.

  • VaRaiderNation

    Try Some Reality Says:
    September 15th, 2012 at 9:07 pm
    And Dmac rushes for over 100 yds

    =================================

    Agree. I need to see a 100-yard game from McFadden tomorrow.
    _______________________

    I think in spite of knapp, we will see dmac light it up quite a few times this year, just needs to stay healthy.

  • Barry_McKockiner

    OAK 27~MIA 24

  • VaRaiderNation

    Barry_McKockiner Says:
    September 15th, 2012 at 9:15 pm
    OAK 27~MIA 24
    _________________

    Give our D some credit bro, tannehill and bush aint putting up 24 on us. The Raider D is gonna get nasty and knock some faces off tommorow.

  • qodrn1

    Raider Prediction Board

    Dedicated to Al Davis, Raider duct tape (boy does it hold) and the Coliseum rodents

    Week 1: Alex7: Chargers 27 Raiders 20 (22/14)

    Carl Weathers: Raiders 19-9
    cheese puff: Oakland Raiders 51 Miami Dolphins 10
    Dakota: 21-10 raiders
    davidon: Fins 20 Raiders 17
    EMRaiders: OAK 24 MIA 13
    Mr Green: Raidahs 38 dolphins 3
    Just Fire Baby: Raiders 34 Land Sharks 3
    Klas Tjorborn: after close win over Miami,
    Raiders 30, Steelers 21 (?)
    Marks hair: Go Dogs! 21-0
    mcfadden20: Raiders 27-13 Dolphins
    MEX_GHOST: Raiders 26…..vs…..Miami 17
    MiamiRaider78: Raiders 23 Ballphins 14
    neilb: Raiders 20 – 10.
    nwr8r: Raiders 17, Poke 6
    PlunkforHOF: My beloved Raiders 17 Bottom feeders 6
    qodrn: Raiders 28 Miami 14
    RaiderDuck: Raiders, 27-10
    RAIDERMAN99: Fins 23 Raids 6
    raiderinparadise: Jon Condo plays we win: 48-13
    Jon Condo doesn’t play: 31-14
    RaiderRetribution: Raiders 31 Miami 0
    realtruraider: Raiders 15 Fins 9 The field goal game
    SilverNBlackPA: Raiders 23 – Dolphins 16

  • ArmChair GM

    Read this article guys. All you clowns that said that our collective voice is NOT being heard…this just shows how wrong you are!

    Monte Poole dedicates an entire article to the Raider Nation’s scathing indictment of Greg Knapp’s pathetic offense!

    http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders/ci_21553802/monte-poole-struggling-offense-not-sitting-well-raider

  • Just Fire Baby

    HAHAHAHAHHAH!!!

    Eat it Lance!!

  • Just Fire Baby

    The only difference between Matt Barkley and John David Booty, is that Barkley is throwing to one of the best collegiate 1-2 punches at WR I can remember seeing.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Another day, another A’s and Giants win.

    Bay Area right now is the king of baseball in my eyes, and realistically another Bay Bridge WS is not that far-fetched.

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Plunketthead Says:
    September 15th, 2012 at 8:12 pm
    Raider 99

    Great job defending Israel
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Really?
    You/ we are defending Israel! Do you have free insurance? They do.
    Stop being ignorant!

  • eastoaklandraider

    Raider Prediction Board

    Dedicated to Al Davis, Raider duct tape (boy does it hold) and the Coliseum rodents

    Week 1: Alex7: Chargers 27 Raiders 20 (22/14)

    Carl Weathers: Raiders 19-9
    cheese puff: Oakland Raiders 51 Miami Dolphins 10
    Dakota: 21-10 raiders
    davidon: Fins 20 Raiders 17
    EMRaiders: OAK 24 MIA 13
    Mr Green: Raidahs 38 dolphins 3
    Just Fire Baby: Raiders 34 Land Sharks 3
    Klas Tjorborn: after close win over Miami,
    Raiders 30, Steelers 21 (?)
    Marks hair: Go Dogs! 21-0
    mcfadden20: Raiders 27-13 Dolphins
    MEX_GHOST: Raiders 26…..vs…..Miami 17
    MiamiRaider78: Raiders 23 Ballphins 14
    neilb: Raiders 20 – 10.
    nwr8r: Raiders 17, Poke 6
    PlunkforHOF: My beloved Raiders 17 Bottom feeders 6
    qodrn: Raiders 28 Miami 14
    RaiderDuck: Raiders, 27-10
    RAIDERMAN99: Fins 23 Raids 6
    raiderinparadise: Jon Condo plays we win: 48-13
    Jon Condo doesn’t play: 31-14
    RaiderRetribution: Raiders 31 Miami 0
    realtruraider: Raiders 15 Fins 9 The field goal game
    SilverNBlackPA: Raiders 23 – Dolphins 16
    Eastoaklamdraider: Raiders 27-Dolphins 13

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    USC lost to Stanford again?
    LMAO

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Raiders 16
    Mia 13

  • VaRaiderNation

    Raider Prediction Board

    Dedicated to Al Davis, Raider duct tape (boy does it hold) and the Coliseum rodents

    Week 1: Alex7: Chargers 27 Raiders 20 (22/14)

    Carl Weathers: Raiders 19-9
    cheese puff: Oakland Raiders 51 Miami Dolphins 10
    Dakota: 21-10 raiders
    davidon: Fins 20 Raiders 17
    EMRaiders: OAK 24 MIA 13
    Mr Green: Raidahs 38 dolphins 3
    Just Fire Baby: Raiders 34 Land Sharks 3
    Klas Tjorborn: after close win over Miami,
    Raiders 30, Steelers 21 (?)
    Marks hair: Go Dogs! 21-0
    mcfadden20: Raiders 27-13 Dolphins
    MEX_GHOST: Raiders 26…..vs…..Miami 17
    MiamiRaider78: Raiders 23 Ballphins 14
    neilb: Raiders 20 – 10.
    nwr8r: Raiders 17, Poke 6
    PlunkforHOF: My beloved Raiders 17 Bottom feeders 6
    qodrn: Raiders 28 Miami 14
    RaiderDuck: Raiders, 27-10
    RAIDERMAN99: Fins 23 Raids 6
    raiderinparadise: Jon Condo plays we win: 48-13
    Jon Condo doesn’t play: 31-14
    RaiderRetribution: Raiders 31 Miami 0
    realtruraider: Raiders 15 Fins 9 The field goal game
    SilverNBlackPA: Raiders 23 – Dolphins 16
    Eastoaklamdraider: Raiders 27-Dolphins 13
    VaRaiderNation: Raiders 17- Dolphins 6

  • PlunkforHOF

    Evening Raider fans! I have to be at stinking work when we kick off tomorrow, hopefully will see the 2nd half, where I hope to be delighted that we will be leading 10-0. Really excited to see the return of DeGnarlious. Go Raiders!

    CODE BLACK

  • DJ Johnny

    RAIDERMAN99 Says:
    September 15th, 2012 at 8:55 pm
    Our Oline will be better with Wiz back in the middle.

    Look for Streaterto be much better this game.

    Having D Wow back is going to be HUGE.

    Palmer will look for the TEs earlier this week.
    ================================================
    So no excuses for the Raids not putting up points, right ?

    No. Didn’t you hear Knapp? ‘Patience…it’s gonna take some time’.

    What great sin did I commit that a big part of my sports happiness revolves around Gregg freaking Knapp?

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Plunketthead Says:
    September 15th, 2012 at 8:12 pm
    Raider 99

    Great job defending Israel
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    I dont know if I should be mad at you or feel sorry for you. Keep defending Israel with your taxes. Give them your taxes, so they can kill more kids and have free health insurance.
    Do you have free insurance? So you don’t have free insurance but you can afford to support another country with free insurance?!
    Maybe you people deserve this crap.

  • Tailgate BBQ Extraordinaire

    I’m new here. Long time listener, first time caller. If the raiders lose to the bung hole surfers I’m going to go on a ice cream eating binge.

  • VaRaiderNation

    Im out Nation. We are gonna take this thing tomorrow, look for a strong performance from our defense. Better execution from our offense, and, in a perfect world, more creative playcalling from knapp. Dmac will get the first of many 100 yd rushing games this season. Barring another special teams nightmare, we win this thing and look pretty damn good doing it. Raiders 17- Dolphins 6 JUST WIN BABY!!!

  • Tailgate BBQ Extraordinaire

    Memo to USC: I feel your pain man. I feel your pain.

  • purvisman

    28-13 RAIDERS!!

  • purvisman

    Raider Prediction Board

    Dedicated to Al Davis, Raider duct tape (boy does it hold) and the Coliseum rodents

    Week 1: Alex7: Chargers 27 Raiders 20 (22/14)

    Carl Weathers: Raiders 19-9
    cheese puff: Oakland Raiders 51 Miami Dolphins 10
    Dakota: 21-10 raiders
    davidon: Fins 20 Raiders 17
    EMRaiders: OAK 24 MIA 13
    Mr Green: Raidahs 38 dolphins 3
    Just Fire Baby: Raiders 34 Land Sharks 3
    Klas Tjorborn: after close win over Miami,
    Raiders 30, Steelers 21 (?)
    Marks hair: Go Dogs! 21-0
    mcfadden20: Raiders 27-13 Dolphins
    MEX_GHOST: Raiders 26…..vs…..Miami 17
    MiamiRaider78: Raiders 23 Ballphins 14
    neilb: Raiders 20 – 10.
    nwr8r: Raiders 17, Poke 6
    PlunkforHOF: My beloved Raiders 17 Bottom feeders 6
    qodrn: Raiders 28 Miami 14
    RaiderDuck: Raiders, 27-10
    RAIDERMAN99: Fins 23 Raids 6
    raiderinparadise: Jon Condo plays we win: 48-13
    Jon Condo doesn’t play: 31-14
    RaiderRetribution: Raiders 31 Miami 0
    realtruraider: Raiders 15 Fins 9 The field goal game
    SilverNBlackPA: Raiders 23 – Dolphins 16
    Eastoaklamdraider: Raiders 27-Dolphins 13
    VaRaiderNation: Raiders 17- Dolphins 6 Purvisman: 28-13 RAIDERS!!

  • purvisman

    I’ll get this. Raider Prediction Board

    Dedicated to Al Davis, Raider duct tape (boy does it hold) and the Coliseum rodents

    Week 1: Alex7: Chargers 27 Raiders 20 (22/14)

    Carl Weathers: Raiders 19-9
    cheese puff: Oakland Raiders 51 Miami Dolphins 10
    Dakota: 21-10 raiders
    davidon: Fins 20 Raiders 17
    EMRaiders: OAK 24 MIA 13
    Mr Green: Raidahs 38 dolphins 3
    Just Fire Baby: Raiders 34 Land Sharks 3
    Klas Tjorborn: after close win over Miami,
    Raiders 30, Steelers 21 (?)
    Marks hair: Go Dogs! 21-0
    mcfadden20: Raiders 27-13 Dolphins
    MEX_GHOST: Raiders 26…..vs…..Miami 17
    MiamiRaider78: Raiders 23 Ballphins 14
    neilb: Raiders 20 – 10.
    nwr8r: Raiders 17, Poke 6
    PlunkforHOF: My beloved Raiders 17 Bottom feeders 6
    qodrn: Raiders 28 Miami 14
    RaiderDuck: Raiders, 27-10
    RAIDERMAN99: Fins 23 Raids 6
    raiderinparadise: Jon Condo plays we win: 48-13
    Jon Condo doesn’t play: 31-14
    RaiderRetribution: Raiders 31 Miami 0
    realtruraider: Raiders 15 Fins 9 The field goal game
    SilverNBlackPA: Raiders 23 – Dolphins 16
    Eastoaklamdraider: Raiders 27-Dolphins 13
    VaRaiderNation: Raiders 17- Dolphins 6 Purvisman: 28-13 RAIDERS!!

  • purvisman

    Maybe not.

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    U.S. Aid to Israel: What U.S. Taxpayer Should Know
    by Tom Malthaner

    This morning as I was walking down Shuhada Street in Hebron, I saw graffiti marking the newly painted storefronts and awnings. Although three months past schedule and 100 percent over budget, the renovation of Shuhada Street was finally completed this week. The project manager said the reason for the delay and cost overruns was the sabotage of the project by the Israeli settlers of the Beit Hadassah settlement complex in Hebron. They broke the street lights, stoned project workers, shot out the windows of bulldozers and other heavy equipment with pellet guns, broke paving stones before they were laid and now have defaced again the homes and shops of Palestinians with graffiti. The settlers did not want Shuhada St. opened to Palestinian traffic as was agreed to under Oslo 2. This renovation project is paid for by USAID funds and it makes me angry that my tax dollars have paid for improvements that have been destroyed by the settlers.
    Most Americans are not aware how much of their tax revenue our government sends to Israel. For the fiscal year ending in September 30, 1997, the U.S. has given Israel $6.72 billion: $6.194 billion falls under Israel’s foreign aid allotment and $526 million comes from agencies such as the Department of Commerce, the U.S. Information Agency and the Pentagon. The $6.72 billion figure does not include loan guarantees and annual compound interest totalling $3.122 billion the U.S. pays on money borrowed to give to Israel. It does not include the cost to U.S. taxpayers of IRS tax exemptions that donors can claim when they donate money to Israeli charities. (Donors claim approximately $1 billion in Federal tax deductions annually. This ultimately costs other U.S. tax payers $280 million to $390 million.)
    When grant, loans, interest and tax deductions are added together for the fiscal year ending in September 30, 1997, our special relationship with Israel cost U.S. taxpayers over $10 billion.
    Since 1949 the U.S. has given Israel a total of $83.205 billion. The interest costs borne by U.S. tax payers on behalf of Israel are $49.937 billion, thus making the total amount of aid given to Israel since 1949 $133.132 billion. This may mean that U.S. government has given more federal aid to the average Israeli citizen in a given year than it has given to the average American citizen.
    I am angry when I see Israeli settlers from Hebron destroy improvements made to Shuhada Street with my tax money. Also, it angers me that my government is giving over $10 billion to a country that is more prosperous than most of the other countries in the world and uses much of its money for strengthening its military and the oppression of the Palestinian people.

  • DJ Johnny

    I can’t shake the feeling now that the Raiders don’t have winning is their primary objective this yr.

    Just the way Knapp talks and DA talks and what Reggie is saying…DA didn’t even say he was disappointed at his presser.

    It almost looks like they are more concerned about setting up this new “system” and if we win…well fine, if we lose…well ‘how is the system coming along’?

    It doesn’t make sense to me…but that’s the vibe i’m getting. I’m sick of fighting it.

    The reason they signed Branch is he’s one of the guys they see in the future here. I don’t get Seymour still being here though. DMAC is part of the future and there are some others.

    Like I said, it doesn’t make sense to me but that’s what I think is going down.

  • Try Some Reality

    What great sin did I commit that a big part of my sports happiness revolves around Gregg freaking Knapp?

    ==============================================

    LOL.

  • General Giant Johnson

    Gentlemen, we gotta win this thing tomorrow. We need to grab this thing by the balls and show the dolphins who’s wearin the pants. We will not be defeated.

  • Try Some Reality

    DJ, keep your head up bro. If they weren’t so concerned about winning this year, they would have parlayed some of their proven vets/stars for future draft picks. They didn’t. Heck, they have even said they feel the team can compete now. Mark Davis also said as much. I think the expectation is definitely to win now while setting themselves up for future success as well. I think we’re used to a balls-to-the-wall style from Al Davis. The new regime is trying to make sure we don’t mortgage the future for a risky gamble now.

  • DJ Johnny

    I’m a fan of Carson Palmer and honestly, if i were him..i would get the hell out of here.

    While DA and Knapp are dicking around with installing this “new system” Palmer is gonna be straddled with a team that is going nowhere and a management that is just fine with it.

    Palmer doesn’t have much more time to leave a mark; which he undoubtedly would like to do. How he can’t see the writing on the wall is perplexing, but he would do well to try and be available for a different team that cares most about winning NOW.

    Maybe he’s just settling for what’s going on cuz there really is nothing else out there for him…I don’t know.

  • eastoaklandraider

    I guess Oregon is our best shot yet again to bring National title out of SEC
    I live in Alabama and man am I tired of all this SEC-talk USC is now out of the pic but Oregon has a shot if they can beat SC an stanford and finish undefeated.

  • hendu

    DJ,like some of youre posts, what a friggen WHINER! 381,get a grip,let the game play out,Raiders win, great!If they lose,bring Pitt in next, deal with them at Home….

  • DJ Johnny

    Hendu,

    How is that whining? I don’t that’s the correct term.

    What i’m doing is the exact opposite. I’ve just come to the conclusion that winning is NOT the primary goal of this new regime RIGHT NOW. I guess i’m disappointed in that fact…yes.

    If u see some of my posts I was doing a hell of a lot more whining about SD and what went down. Who wasn’t?

    I’ve actually come to a sort of acceptance with what the objective is with the new regime.

    As far as dealing with Pitt at home? Just like we “dealt with’ SD? We don’t have home field advantage.

    No. I’m not ok with winning not being the primary objective, but what choice do we have?

  • MonumentRaider

    Raider Prediction Board

    Dedicated to Al Davis, Raider duct tape (boy does it hold) and the Coliseum rodents

    Week 1: Alex7: Chargers 27 Raiders 20 (22/14)

    Carl Weathers: Raiders 19-9
    cheese puff: Oakland Raiders 51 Miami Dolphins 10
    Dakota: 21-10 raiders
    davidon: Fins 20 Raiders 17
    EMRaiders: OAK 24 MIA 13
    Mr Green: Raidahs 38 dolphins 3
    Just Fire Baby: Raiders 34 Land Sharks 3
    Klas Tjorborn: after close win over Miami,
    Raiders 30, Steelers 21 (?)
    Marks hair: Go Dogs! 21-0
    mcfadden20: Raiders 27-13 Dolphins
    MEX_GHOST: Raiders 26…..vs…..Miami 17
    MiamiRaider78: Raiders 23 Ballphins 14
    neilb: Raiders 20 – 10.
    nwr8r: Raiders 17, Poke 6
    PlunkforHOF: My beloved Raiders 17 Bottom feeders 6
    qodrn: Raiders 28 Miami 14
    RaiderDuck: Raiders, 27-10
    RAIDERMAN99: Fins 23 Raids 6
    raiderinparadise: Jon Condo plays we win: 48-13
    Jon Condo doesn’t play: 31-14
    RaiderRetribution: Raiders 31 Miami 0
    realtruraider: Raiders 15 Fins 9 The field goal game
    SilverNBlackPA: Raiders 23 – Dolphins 16
    Eastoaklamdraider: Raiders 27-Dolphins 13
    VaRaiderNation: Raiders 17- Dolphins 6
    MonumentRaider: Raiders 27 – Dolphins 24

  • DJ Johnny

    Try some reality,

    I appreciate what you’re saying and for trying to pick up a downtrodden fan but …

    I don’t beleieve that’s true. Yes, i think they would “prefer” to win games, i just don’t think that is the primary objective. I really don’t.

    Of course they’d “rather” win…I believe that.

  • hendu

    384,RELAX,have a beer or whatever.One game has been played, You feel BAD for Palmer? Please,I think 16 teams lost week one,enjoy the GAME tomorrow, RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • r8eray

    20-13 Dolphins

    I’m jumping all over the Dolphins +MLB!!

    Don’t know how the Raiders are favorites going East?

  • hendu

    388, Wish I could take Youre money,maybe at a tailgate?

  • Violent Hands

    No-huddle EARLY and gas this defence in the heat

  • IndianaRaider

    miami 23 – oakland 20

  • r8eray

    Hendu, I would love for the Raiders to prove me wrong…but we aint winning sh1t until Knapp gets his head out his @$$!!

    Usually I try to use reverse psychology on game day so the Raiders could win!!

    Let’s see if it works!

    ;)

  • RAIDERMAN99

    I see RaiderO is still busy with his ‘Palestinian’ propaganda.

    RaiderO knows full well there is no such thing as a ‘Palestinian’.

    That’s bcz there was never a nation of Palestine.

    It’s the greatest fraud ever perpetrated.

    RaiderO can not tell you when this phony nation of Palestine came into being or when it stopped existing. Hw can’t tell you what borders it had. Can’t name a king, president, or prime minister for his imaginary nation of Palestine. Can’t tell you what currency it used. Where it ever had an embassy. What type of government it had.

    That’s bcz it never existed and O knows it.

    But don’t take my word for it – listen to a ‘Palestinian’ in a rare moment of honesty:

    In an interview with the Dutch newspaper,Amsterdam-based newspaper “Dagblad de Verdieping Trouw”, March 31, 1977, PLO executive committee member Zahir Muhsein said: “The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people. Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem.”

    RaiderO you seem like a decent enough fellow that could accept the existence of Israel and live in peace. Why do you insist on repeating the same old ‘Palestinian’ lie ad infintum ? Stop parroting the Islamofascist lie.

    O, we both know you’re not a Palestinian. You’re definitely an Arab. You might be Jordanian.

    If you insist om wanting to be a ‘Palestinian’, then move back to Jordan, depose the Hashemite king, and rename that nation Palestine. Then, you can accurately claim you’re Palestinian. Your identity crisis will be over.

    And once that’s accomplished maybe you can convince your fellow countrymen to stop celebrating the 9/11 atrocities, quit admiring the OBL/Al Queda Islamofascists and constantly dreaming about destroying the ‘great and little satan’.

    You’ll be much happier. We all will be.

    Forget about destroying little Israel. That’s not going to happen without your own destruction. You don’t want to mess with the Dar al Harb bull, or you will get his horns. Flying carpets will not shoot down F-15′s and 22′s. Choose instead to live a long, healthy, happy and productive life.

    The choice is yours.

  • JB

    Tomorrow is Knapp’s judgement day – at least by the fan base. If he loses, everybody will be screaming for his head. If he doesn’t win convincingly, his head will still be in jeopardy. If he wins big time, the patience he’s been asking for will be granted. In a sense, even though it is really how the actual players execute, if the fan base is not satisfied with the game’s results, SCHIT WILL HIT THE FAN. Reggie & DA may not respond to the fans but the fans will let them hear them by NOT attending future games. Blacked out games are not good for business & Raider management knows that.

    I personally do NOT have confidence in Knapp. I thought all along that Saunders should have been named OC if for no other reason of consistency. Reggie & A thought differently. I just hope DA’s friendship with Knapp doesn’t come back & bite him in the a$$. Tomorrow will tell.

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    99,

    I never insulted Jews or Israelis, so let’s not use insults.

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Are you familiar with the Ottoman Empire? I read a few posts from you that mentioned Balfour promise.
    Tell me this, when was the last time Jews/ Israelis ruled that area before the 20th century?

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    99,

    Are you an American? I’m Arab/ American (my parents were immigrants who were naturalized citizens). They immigrated from Palestine, not from Jordan.
    The new countries, borders, and names to the area were given after the end of ottoman empire/ arabic revolt/ Balfour promise.
    My point as an American is we should focus on us more and not support other countries with their wars regardless of who they are (Palestine or Israel) when we don’t have free health and free upper level education.
    Don’t they have free health in Israel? Why should we support a country that has free health when we tell our people we can’t afford to have free health and education unless we increase our taxes?

  • raidertbone

    RE 385:
    Here’s my prediction: Raiders 26, Dolphins 17

  • http://raiderchaos.blogspot.com RaiderChaos
  • qodrn1

    Raider Prediction Board

    Dedicated to Al Davis, Raider duct tape (boy does it hold) and the Coliseum rodents

    Week 1: Alex7: Chargers 27 Raiders 20 (22/14)

    Barry_McKockiner: OAK 27~MIA 24
    Carl Weathers: Raiders 19-9
    cheese puff: Oakland Raiders 51 Miami Dolphins 10
    Dakota: 21-10 raiders
    davidon: Fins 20 Raiders 17
    Eastoaklamdraider: Raiders 27-Dolphins 13
    EMRaiders: OAK 24 MIA 13
    Mr Green: Raidahs 38 dolphins 3
    IndianaRaider: miami 23 – oakland 20
    Just Fire Baby: Raiders 34 Land Sharks 3
    Klas Tjorborn: after close win over Miami,
    Raiders 30, Steelers 21 (?)
    mcfadden20: Raiders 27-13 Dolphins
    MEX_GHOST: Raiders 26…..vs…..Miami 17
    MiamiRaider78: Raiders 23 Ballphins 14
    MonumentRaider: OAK-27 MIA-24
    neilb: Raiders 20 – 10.
    nwr8r: Raiders 17, Poke 6
    PlunkforHOF: My beloved Raiders 17 Bottom feeders 6
    purvisman: 28-13 RAIDERS!!
    qodrn: Raiders 28 Miami 14
    r8eray: 20-13 Dolphins
    RaiderDuck: Raiders, 27-10
    RAIDERMAN99: Fins 23 Raids 6
    Raider O: Raiders 16 Mia 13
    raiderinparadise: Jon Condo plays we win: 48-13
    Jon Condo doesn’t play: 31-14
    RaiderRetribution: Raiders 31 Miami 0
    raidertbone: Raiders 26, Dolphins 17
    realtruraider: Raiders 15 Fins 9 The field goal game
    SilverNBlackPA: Raiders 23 – Dolphins 16
    VaRaiderNation: Raiders 17 Fins 6