It’s Raiders deja vu in Miami
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Sunday, September 16th, 2012 at 8:53 pm in Oakland Raiders.
In the interest of full disclosure, I didn’t make the trip to Miami today, instead spending Saturday and Sunday getting my daughter moved in to her dorm for her freshman year in college.
About the time we were leaving campus, Greg Papa informed us on the radio the Raiders led 10-7. By the time I got home, Reggie Bush had broken loose for scoring runs of 29 and 64 yards and Miami had the game well in hand. (I had the game on my DVR, and caught most of what I missed).
Looked a lot like last year’s debacle in Miami, where the Raiders trailed 34-0 after threee quarters and were barely competitive under Hue Jackson.
Or the one before that in Oakland under Tom Cable, where the Raiders lost 33-17. Or even a little like the one two years earlier in Miami, where the Raiders stayed within 17-15 in terms of the final score but were pushed around physically.
In those four games, Miami has rushed for 880 yards, averaged 5.1 yards per carry, and has nine rushing touchdowns. The Raiders have 155 yards rushing in those games, with a 2.5 average, and zero rushing touchdowns.
The Raiders’ zone scheme is incurring the wrath of the fan base and not without justification. Darren McFadden has 26 rushes for 54 yards in two games. Say what you will about Hue Jackson, but he was the one who rebuilt McFadden’s confidence and got him going. Greg Knapp has a lot of work to do in that regard.
Pretty much every objective the Raiders set out to to meet was a dramatic failure. They failed to run the ball and stop the run. Reggie Bush got 11 yards the first time he carried the ball, and had 133 yards on his last 12 carries.
Holding penalties negated 36 and 24 yards punt returns by Phillip Adams.
The Raiders failed to take the ball away. When they had a key red zone possesion at the end of the first half, they had to settle for a 25-yard field goal by Sebastian Janikowski.
With Ron Bartell on the short-term injured reserve list until Oct. 27 at the earliest, rookie quarterback Ryan Tannehill first went at Pat Lee and then Joselio Hanson, with Hartline catching nine passes after never before having more than five.
With run-stingy Pittsburgh up next in Oakland, followed by Denver and Peyton Manning in Denver, there are very few reasons to suspect the Raiders will be anything other than 0-4 at the quarter turn based on the first two games of the season.
Some additional opinion and observation . . .
– Here is columinst Monte Poole’s take _ and it’s pretty bleak _ on the outlook for the Raiders in 2012 . .
– Monte’s column on offensive coordinator Greg Knapp, which ran the morning game, looks especially relevant now . . .
– Here is Steve Corkran’s on-site account of the Raiders’ second-half fade in Miami . . .
– Here is Steve Corkran’s notebook from Miami . . . missed tackles on defense, and don’t hold your breath for dumping the zone blocking scheme . . .
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September 16th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
IN ONE OFFSEASON, UNDER GREG KNAPP’S SCHEME, DARREN MCFADDEN HAS GONE FROM BEING THE BEST BACK IN THE LEAGUE TO BEING ARGUABLY THE WORST!!! HE IS AVERAGING LESS THAT 2 YDS A CARRY!!!
The entire transition of the offense was handled improperly!
The majority of our weapons on offense including the QB were drafted or acquired using the Al Davis, vertical, stretch the field, power scheme philosophy.
We do not have the player personnel to fully implement what Knapp is trying to do!
This entire thing was handled completely AZZ BACKWARDS from the start!!!
Make Al Saunders the OC and reassign Greg Knapp to QB coach to help Terrelle Pryor develop!!
This is the most logical thing to do to get optimum performance from our players, preserve team continuity, and still have a chance to win the division!!!
As a result…
J Raider has started the OFFICIAL:
“FIRE”, “DEMOTE”, “RELIEVE OF PLAYCALLING DUTIES” GREG KNAPP” PETITION!!!
Whatever language you prefer makes no difference to me!!!
*J-Raider
*MonumentRaider
*EMRaiders
*JB
*Al_is_Theraiders
*Raiderimmortal
*Elraidmanhattan
*DKnight007
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*ArmChairGM
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*Klas Tjorborn
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*DMAC
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*JohnnyRaider
*eastoaklandraider
*gtown1_sj
*El Gato Negro
*R8er Mike
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*Dan78
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*chuck
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*poprox13
*davidon
*GroundRaider4805
IT’S TIME TO LEAD A REVOLT AROUND HERE THE LIKES OF WHICH WE HAVEN’T SEEN SINCE PAUL REVERE AND GEORGE WASHINGTON!!!
September 16th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
2 for the money
September 16th, 2012 at 8:55 pm
3rd eye
September 16th, 2012 at 8:55 pm
4th down once again
September 16th, 2012 at 8:55 pm
I got five on it
September 16th, 2012 at 8:55 pm
Fire those two stupid azzholes!
September 16th, 2012 at 8:55 pm
Looked a lot like last year’s debacle in Miami, where the Raiders trailed 34-0 after threee quarters and were barely competitive under Hue Jackson.
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LOL!!!
So this game was an improvement from last years showing in Miami.
September 16th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
Again, where was the pass rush? Sure the DB’s are gonna get torched when you have all day to throw.
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I didn’t get to watch most of the 2nd half, but there seemed to be plenty of pass rush in the 1st half. Maybe the Bush runs slowed down the rush or something, I don’t know it sounds like the whole damn defense and offense just gave up after that Bush run.
September 16th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
We look like a bunch of homies after work trying to play some football!
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LOL
September 16th, 2012 at 8:57 pm
“The Raiders’ zone scheme is incurring the wrath of the fan base and not without justification. Darren McFadden has 26 rushes for 54 yards in two games…
Say what you will about Hue Jackson, but he was the one who rebuilt McFadden’s confidence and got him going.”
That’s a direct quote from Steve Corkran…
September 16th, 2012 at 9:00 pm
34-0 after 3 quarters last year?
I forgot it was that bad.
Just like we will all forgot about all this noise when we have a stable top-tier franchise in 2-3 years.
September 16th, 2012 at 9:01 pm
Hue was the biggest factor in DMC success after his first 2 lackluster years in the ZBS. DMC even said it not long after Hue got here, now he has to say he is fine with the ZBS, but thats not true, probably could youtube DMC talkin about how Hue changing the scheme helped him alot become a good RB in the NFL
September 16th, 2012 at 9:03 pm
Somebody shlt in knapps cereal.. please!
September 16th, 2012 at 9:03 pm
No Deja Vue has stripper and poles, and fruit juice!!
September 16th, 2012 at 9:03 pm
probably could youtube DMC talkin about how Hue changing the scheme helped him alot become a good RB in the NFL
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I can show you youtube videos of him breaking long runs in 2010, on clear ZBS runs.
September 16th, 2012 at 9:04 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 9:01 pm
The Raiders are converting 22% of 3rd downs. 31st in the NFL
September 16th, 2012 at 9:04 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 9:03 pm
They can’t convert 3rd downs, and can’t score in the Red Zone.
September 16th, 2012 at 9:04 pm
#9 on offense last year…#9! now? crazy only stupidity can ruin that…
September 16th, 2012 at 9:05 pm
“What if this is as good as it gets?”"What if this is as good as it gets?”
September 16th, 2012 at 9:05 pm
16. Knapp
September 16th, 2012 at 9:05 pm
Best thing in pro sports is to be really good or really bad.
Being stuck in the middle does you no good.
Look at the Colts, they have been awful like twice in 15 years, and got two franchise QB’s out of it.
We blew our chance at it in 2007.
September 16th, 2012 at 9:06 pm
Sign me for the Fire Knapp Petition. I knew once I heard he was hired on as the OC, this team was Eff’d. He made DMC look like a bust. Raiders couldn’t score points last time he was here and they can’t score now. 1 touchdown a game is not gonna cut it and if the the D can’t get off the field they aren’t gonna be much of factor either.
September 16th, 2012 at 9:06 pm
Raider season is finished RIGHT NOW. next 3 opponents: Steelers, Bronocs and Falcons. raiders WILL be 0-5. then we’ll just “suck for barkley”. better hope he can play man. wonder how long palmer will last getting face planted on every throw.
September 16th, 2012 at 9:06 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
IN ONE OFFSEASON, UNDER GREG KNAPP’S SCHEME, DARREN MCFADDEN HAS GONE FROM BEING THE BEST BACK IN THE LEAGUE TO BEING ARGUABLY THE WORST!!! HE IS AVERAGING LESS THAT 2 YDS A CARRY!!!
The entire transition of the offense was handled improperly!
The majority of our weapons on offense including the QB were drafted or acquired using the Al Davis, vertical, stretch the field, power scheme philosophy.
We do not have the player personnel to fully implement what Knapp is trying to do!
This entire thing was handled completely AZZ BACKWARDS from the start!!!
Make Al Saunders the OC and reassign Greg Knapp to QB coach to help Terrelle Pryor develop!!
This is the most logical thing to do to get optimum performance from our players, preserve team continuity, and still have a chance to win the division!!!
As a result…
J Raider has started the OFFICIAL:
“FIRE”, “DEMOTE”, “RELIEVE OF PLAYCALLING DUTIES” GREG KNAPP” PETITION!!!
Whatever language you prefer makes no difference to me!!!
*Dhidee99
*J-Raider
*MonumentRaider
*EMRaiders
*JB
*Al_is_Theraiders
*Raiderimmortal
*Elraidmanhattan
*DKnight007
*Marks Hair
*ArmChairGM
*Stringer Bell
*Ooo0ooO
*RaidO
*Armond
*Drray
*RaiderDav
*RaiderO
*Raiderman99
*R8eray
*Dakota
*DJ Johnny
*Oakfoshow
*Guest123
*TxRaider210
*Turducken
*Johnnylama
*Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush)
*RaiderDuck
*DutchRaider77
*exlaraiderseasonticketholder
*The Big Banana
*Walrushooker
*Klas Tjorborn
*IndianaRaider
*bigfoot
*DKnight007
*DMAC
*JT
*NYRaider
*JohnnyRaider
*eastoaklandraider
*gtown1_sj
*El Gato Negro
*R8er Mike
*Raiderbuck
*Dan78
*daraider09
*realtruraider
*chuck
*nwr8r
*boss01
*Mr Green
*CODEBLACK2011
*303Raider
*redshirt
*94720Raider
*RaidersOne
*Raider2DaHeart
*zopi
*ddwight
*PapaRaider
*poprox13
*davidon
*GroundRaider4805
IT’S TIME TO LEAD A REVOLT AROUND HERE THE LIKES OF WHICH WE HAVEN’T SEEN SINCE PAUL REVERE AND GEORGE WASHINGTON!!!
September 16th, 2012 at 9:07 pm
“if i have a player that does a, b, c. then i better make sure he does a, b, c…” neal on the coaching decisions…
September 16th, 2012 at 9:07 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 9:05 pm
Best thing in pro sports is to be really good or really bad.
Being stuck in the middle does you no good.
Look at the Colts, they have been awful like twice in 15 years, and got two franchise QB’s out of it.
We blew our chance at it in 2007.
>> we passed on CALVIN JOHNSON that year. worst AD pick of all time. MEGATRON will be GOAT
September 16th, 2012 at 9:07 pm
#9 on offense last year…#9! now? crazy only stupidity can ruin that…
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Dude, that is yards not points (where we were 16th).
Yards on the most meaningless stats in the NFL right now.
Want proof? Raiders have the #5 ranked passing offense in the RIGHT NOW.
September 16th, 2012 at 9:07 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 9:03 pm
probably could youtube DMC talkin about how Hue changing the scheme helped him alot become a good RB in the NFL
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I can show you youtube videos of him breaking long runs in 2010, on clear ZBS runs.
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I would sure hope so, he was in the ZBS for 2 years, he should have a couple highlights running in that scheme, just not near how many he has running in the power
September 16th, 2012 at 9:07 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
IN ONE OFFSEASON, UNDER GREG KNAPP’S SCHEME, DARREN MCFADDEN HAS GONE FROM BEING THE BEST BACK IN THE LEAGUE TO BEING ARGUABLY THE WORST!!! HE IS AVERAGING LESS THAT 2 YDS A CARRY!!!
The entire transition of the offense was handled improperly!
The majority of our weapons on offense including the QB were drafted or acquired using the Al Davis, vertical, stretch the field, power scheme philosophy.
We do not have the player personnel to fully implement what Knapp is trying to do!
This entire thing was handled completely AZZ BACKWARDS from the start!!!
Make Al Saunders the OC and reassign Greg Knapp to QB coach to help Terrelle Pryor develop!!
This is the most logical thing to do to get optimum performance from our players, preserve team continuity, and still have a chance to win the division!!!
As a result…
J Raider has started the OFFICIAL:
“FIRE”, “DEMOTE”, “RELIEVE OF PLAYCALLING DUTIES” GREG KNAPP” PETITION!!!
Whatever language you prefer makes no difference to me!!!
*J-Raider
*MonumentRaider
*EMRaiders
*JB
*Al_is_Theraiders
*Raiderimmortal
*Elraidmanhattan
*DKnight007
*Marks Hair
*ArmChairGM
*Stringer Bell
*Ooo0ooO
*RaidO
*Armond
*Drray
*RaiderDav
*RaiderO
*Raiderman99
*R8eray
*Dakota
*DJ Johnny
*Oakfoshow
*Guest123
*TxRaider210
*Turducken
*Johnnylama
*Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush)
*RaiderDuck
*DutchRaider77
*exlaraiderseasonticketholder
*The Big Banana
*Walrushooker
*Klas Tjorborn
*IndianaRaider
*bigfoot
*DKnight007
*DMAC
*JT
*NYRaider
*JohnnyRaider
*eastoaklandraider
*gtown1_sj
*El Gato Negro
*R8er Mike
*Raiderbuck
*Dan78
*daraider09
*realtruraider
*chuck
*nwr8r
*boss01
*Mr Green
*CODEBLACK2011
*303Raider
*redshirt
*94720Raider
*RaidersOne
*Raider2DaHeart
*zopi
*ddwight
*PapaRaider
*poprox13
*davidon
*GroundRaider4805
IT’S TIME TO LEAD A REVOLT AROUND HERE THE LIKES OF WHICH WE HAVEN’T SEEN SINCE PAUL REVERE AND GEORGE WASHINGTON!!!
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Agreed!
Add me to this list, if I’m already not on it!
Should have kept Hue or at least kept Saunders as OC and have maintain offensive continuity from least year!
McK screws up by getting rid of Hue and then DA screws up by hiring Knapp to change the whole offense when it didn’t need to be changed from the last two years of being good.
What a joke!
September 16th, 2012 at 9:07 pm
“What if this is as good as it gets?”when Jack Nicholsen says it it takes on a whole new meaning.
September 16th, 2012 at 9:08 pm
Why am I already looking at the 2013 Draft????
September 16th, 2012 at 9:08 pm
romo…dmc is a power runner not an east and west runner…
September 16th, 2012 at 9:09 pm
It’s pretty obvious that Knapp can’t make adjustments when needed.
Hue and Saunders offense could make adjustments really quick!
September 16th, 2012 at 9:09 pm
Knapp is a dummy
September 16th, 2012 at 9:09 pm
JFB
Josh Dubow@JoshDubowAP
1 of every 15 runs for McFadden under HueJax went for 20+ yards. One of every 49 his other three seasons
NEXT!!!
September 16th, 2012 at 9:09 pm
Yards per game, lol.
Here’s your top 5 passing teams per YPG right now.
Giants
Lions
Eagles
Saints
Raiders (actually tied with the Saints)
September 16th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
Start the ban dont go to the games!! I have tickets, i dont want to go!!
September 16th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
who is the worst running offense this season?
September 16th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
Dhidee99 Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 9:08 pm
Why am I already looking at the 2013 Draft????
>> because you know whats up. “sucking for Barkley” officially starts after the Falcons game.
September 16th, 2012 at 9:11 pm
IN ONE OFFSEASON, UNDER GREG KNAPP’S SCHEME, DARREN MCFADDEN HAS GONE FROM BEING THE BEST BACK IN THE LEAGUE TO BEING ARGUABLY THE WORST!!! HE IS AVERAGING LESS THAT 2 YDS A CARRY!!!
The majority of our weapons on offense including the QB were drafted or acquired using the Al Davis, vertical, stretch the field, power scheme philosophy.
We do not have the player personnel to fully implement what Knapp is trying to do!
This entire thing was handled completely AZZ BACKWARDS from the start!!!
Make Al Saunders the OC and reassign Greg Knapp to QB coach to help Terrelle Pryor develop!!
We have to send the UNITED message that Dennis Allen and Greg Knapp’s CRONYISM and misplaced EGOTISM, is NOT more valuable than the PASSION, LOVE, and SUPPORT of the RAIDER NATION!!!
As a result…
J Raider started the OFFICIAL:
“FIRE”, “DEMOTE”, “RELIEVE OF PLAYCALLING DUTIES” GREG KNAPP” PETITION!!!
Whatever language you prefer makes no difference to me!!!
*J-Raider
*MonumentRaider
*EMRaiders
*JB
*Al_is_Theraiders
*Raiderimmortal
*Elraidmanhattan
*DKnight007
*Marks Hair
*ArmChairGM
*Stringer Bell
*Ooo0ooO
*RaidO
*Armond
*Drray
*RaiderDav
*RaiderO
*Raiderman99
*R8eray
*Dakota
*DJ Johnny
*Oakfoshow
*Guest123
*TxRaider210
*Turducken
*Johnnylama
*Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush)
*RaiderDuck
*DutchRaider77
*exlaraiderseasonticketholder
*The Big Banana
*Walrushooker
*Klas Tjorborn
*IndianaRaider
*bigfoot
*DKnight007
*DMAC
*JT
*NYRaider
*JohnnyRaider
*eastoaklandraider
*gtown1_sj
*El Gato Negro
*R8er Mike
*Raiderbuck
*Dan78
*daraider09
*realtruraider
*chuck
*nwr8r
*boss01
*Mr Green
*CODEBLACK2011
*303Raider
*redshirt
*94720Raider
*RaidersOne
*Raider2DaHeart
*zopi
*ddwight
*PapaRaider
*poprox13
*davidon
*GroundRaider4805
*Rooch
IT’S TIME TO LEAD A REVOLT AROUND HERE THE LIKES OF WHICH WE HAVEN’T SEEN SINCE PAUL REVERE AND GEORGE WASHINGTON!!!
September 16th, 2012 at 9:11 pm
Dhidee99 Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 9:08 pm
Why am I already looking at the 2013 Draft????
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I was too….it’s sad!
Where are those idiots that wanted Hue Jackson fired again??
DA and his boy Knapp look like deers in the headlights out there on the sidelines.
DA has no energy…at least Hue had energy galore and was all over the sidelines.
September 16th, 2012 at 9:11 pm
who is the worst running offense this season?
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Tennesse Titans
September 16th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
All them yards between the 20s, what a shame
September 16th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
Sucking for Barkley??
Can you imagine Barkley in this Knapp offense??
Terrible!
September 16th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
da sounds like some backwoods catfish fisher…
September 16th, 2012 at 9:13 pm
No more USC players please!
September 16th, 2012 at 9:13 pm
7 games in and it is what it is this offense is horrid
This run game dont work for us. BTW I would have rather had DVD getting burnt then other teams cast offs
September 16th, 2012 at 9:13 pm
1370.Goldie7 Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 9:09 pm
859.RaiderLen Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 4:19 pm
Goldie7 Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
With all being said…I’m just angry right now. I don’t know what’s gonna happen to my Raiders next. I just don’t know what to think. Will we go without a win? I just want the Raiders to be dominate again. Then thay bring P. Manning over to our division. Whew…when will things go in the Raiders favor?
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Please.
Stop the hyper ventilation and take a pill.
If they crash and burn this season will you go out and hang yourself?
I hope not.
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Don’t be stupid…Old Man. Why would I hang myself over football? Get real dude! There are millions of dedicated Raiders that feel the way I do and you choose me to reply to. Get over it Len! The Raiders suck, stink and suck some more but I’m still cheering for them.
September 16th, 2012 at 9:13 pm
were are the raiders?
September 16th, 2012 at 9:13 pm
I was at the game Monday you know what we were loud!! Our team still played like dookie!!
September 16th, 2012 at 9:13 pm
Actually the Lions stat was only after 1 game, so by yards per game, the Raiders are the #4 ranked passing offense and #15 ranked total offense.
But 30th in scoring.
See how stupid quoting yards per game looks? So stop with the #9 ranked offense from last season!!!
16th in points. That’s what counts.
September 16th, 2012 at 9:13 pm
Why didn’t anyone say…New post? lol
September 16th, 2012 at 9:14 pm
DKnight007 Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 9:11 pm
Dhidee99 Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 9:08 pm
Why am I already looking at the 2013 Draft????
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I was too….it’s sad!
Where are those idiots that wanted Hue Jackson fired again??
DA and his boy Knapp look like deers in the headlights out there on the sidelines.
DA has no energy…at least Hue had energy galore and was all over the sidelines.
>> Hue Jackson sucked. 163 penalties, no displine and a joke of D. HUE was a supernova and couldn’t last.what we see now is the fact that the OC needs to go OR its time for a firesale. will probably have a firesale regardless.
September 16th, 2012 at 9:14 pm
Trade everybody.. i want the top pick
September 16th, 2012 at 9:15 pm
i thought wins and losses are what counts…
September 16th, 2012 at 9:15 pm
I don’t think Knapps play calling was great or even good, but e did not give up 35 points on defense, and he should of cored more points and argghhhhhhhhh..
September 16th, 2012 at 9:15 pm
DKnight007 Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
Sucking for Barkley??
Can you imagine Barkley in this Knapp offense??
Terrible!
>> i can imagine a 1-15 record and the Raiders picking him #1 overall. might as well get ready, who can overtake him as #1 QB prospect? i have no idea
September 16th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
2010 Raiders offense through 2 games = 29 points
2012 Raiders offense through 2 games = 27 points
September 16th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
purvisman Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 9:15 pm
I don’t think Knapps play calling was great or even good, but e did not give up 35 points on defense, and he should of cored more points and argghhhhhhhhh..
>> offense needs to sustain drives, the did not. Knapp def contributed to the 35 point ass beating
September 16th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
Hue was a good oc.. al should have left him there
September 16th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
Add me to the replace Gregg knapp list. EYE!!!
September 16th, 2012 at 9:17 pm
wins and losses…
September 16th, 2012 at 9:17 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
2010 Raiders offense through 2 games = 29 points
2012 Raiders offense through 2 games = 27 points
>> did the 201o raiders start 0-5? because this one has about a 99% chance.
September 16th, 2012 at 9:17 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says: i thought wins and losses are what counts…//////////////////////////well we knew we were gonna lose at least 2 games and maybe we won’tlose anymore!
September 16th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
Armchair…I’ve said at least 5 times between Friday and today to put me on the list. Thans Man.
September 16th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
16th in points. That’s what counts.
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I would say thats still pretty good considering every thing that happened last year
16th > 30th
September 16th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
what happened to 2011?
September 16th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
Thanks Man
September 16th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
We made the playoffs, what 3 of the last 18 years or something like that?
We always hoped it was one step back for two steps forward, but that never happened.
I am willing to see this process out. Couldn’t be really any worse.
September 16th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
Ok, been checking upon this site for about 3 years now and finally had to make an account to respond to the reactions of some fans…
Calling for Knapp to be fired I can understand and even agree with. Our offense has taken a turn for the worst and seems to have lost the capability of the Big Play.
Calling for Palmer to be pulled… ehhh I disagree with. He might not be playing very good, but I don’t think Pryor would be the missing puzzle piece to turn our offense around. At least not yet, he still has a lot to learn.
BUTTT….
Calling for Dennis Allen to be fired right here and now after 2 games, is absolutely rediculous. All Raider fans should realize that STABILITY has been one of the main things this franchise has needed and missed throughout this last decade. Its because we decide to hire a new coach each of the last two years that we have been unable to grow and turn into a winning team. How can you get better when your starting from scratch every year??
Has Dennis Allen been great or even that good so far? Not particularly. Defense seems to be somewhat improved at times maybe. But starting over AGAIN with a new head coach??? That would be inzane. Just would set us back yet again. Dennis Allen needs at least two full years before we can reach a true opinion on his coaching abilities.
Anyways… thats my rant for the day
Rebound verse Pit?? Maybe???
September 16th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
I like geno smith. No on barkley
September 16th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
but losses 2/2 …to the dolphins!
September 16th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
Fire Knapp, Can we protest in front of the Raider building. I want a refund for my season tickets as long as he is OC
September 16th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
C’mon….. say it with me ………… RAIDDERRSSSSSS.
September 16th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
Man I wish we could have hit Jim Harbaugh when we had the chance
September 16th, 2012 at 9:20 pm
what happened to 2011?
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We actually scored more points in 2010, and started the year off just as crappily through 2 games as we are now.
September 16th, 2012 at 9:20 pm
You can say it. Try again…….. RRRAAAIIIIDDDDEEERRRSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!
September 16th, 2012 at 9:20 pm
Marks hair Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 9:14 pm
Trade everybody.. i want the top pick
>> defense will def be a lot different next year, no more HUFF, Seymour or Kelly,complete rebuild there.Offense will have a new QB. you would think that moore, reese and DHB are safe? Mcfadden could EASILY be traded for a 2nd rounder. don’t be surprised. I like MOORE and DHB though, WR core of the future IMO.
September 16th, 2012 at 9:20 pm
dennis allen sugarcoating for 5/6 post game pressers…
September 16th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
I can’t wait till we play Pittsburg, we are going to totally dominate them. EYE!!!
September 16th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
what about wins and losses jfb?
September 16th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
IF you cannot than you are a puzzy crap Raider fan and nobody cares.
September 16th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
Welcome Aboard Hopeful…really glad to meet you. This is one crazy place as you already know.
September 16th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
who ever said we would never have a winning season until al davis dies..guess what he is dead and the Raiders still suck………How embarrassing…..
we will go 0-16..put a fork in it we are done…..
September 16th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
MaxtallicA Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
I can’t wait till we play Pittsburg, we are going to totally dominate them. EYE!!!
/////////// He gets it!!
September 16th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
if reggie gets the first pick he will get an effort player…lol
September 16th, 2012 at 9:24 pm
we’ll get to see pryor after the ATL game. who knows maybe he’ll light a fire, might get to skip barkley
September 16th, 2012 at 9:24 pm
what about wins and losses jfb?
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What about them?
Didn’t we start 2010 1-3, against 4 pretty crappy teams?
If people are willing to through a parade for going 8-8 be my guest.
I would rather be 4-12 honestly and get the draft pick honestly.
September 16th, 2012 at 9:25 pm
Trust me, we are going to come out strong against the steelers. We will win that one for sure. You’ll see, you’ll be sorry
September 16th, 2012 at 9:25 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
if reggie gets the first pick he will get an effort player…lol
> I can be an effort player too!!
September 16th, 2012 at 9:25 pm
84.r8rfan Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
who ever said we would never have a winning season until al davis dies..guess what he is dead and the Raiders still suck………How embarrassing…..
we will go 0-16..put a fork in it we are done…..
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Turtle head Al Michaels said. Ole jerk. He shouldn’t have said that. That was cruel!
September 16th, 2012 at 9:25 pm
zone defense sux as bad as zbs…
September 16th, 2012 at 9:25 pm
your picked manassa!
September 16th, 2012 at 9:26 pm
I’m not calling for DA’s removal but as long as Knapp is his OC I’m quikly losing faith in him also. DA is a manager and in that position sometimes you got to fire or releave people of there duties where is that guy who knock out Knapps best friend make him raider security for coaches and assign him to Greg Knapp
September 16th, 2012 at 9:26 pm
Lets make some trades and start tp so we can get the top pick..
September 16th, 2012 at 9:26 pm
jfb one more win than this year…
September 16th, 2012 at 9:27 pm
MaxtallicA Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 9:25 pm
Trust me, we are going to come out strong against the steelers. We will win that one for sure. You’ll see, you’ll be sorry
>> I’ve got to be honest why do you think the raiders will win that game? if they were 2-0 right now they’d still struggle with PIT. sorry man but the Raiders aren’t beating that team. raiders will probably keep it close for a while but in the end…. and uh i won
‘t be sorry i’m just honest .
September 16th, 2012 at 9:27 pm
EYE!!!!!
September 16th, 2012 at 9:28 pm
Enough bullshlt.. fire hoffman and knapp!
September 16th, 2012 at 9:28 pm
I’m still sporting my black satin Raiders jacket. Even if we do stink like hot garbage.
September 16th, 2012 at 9:28 pm
Don’t get me wrong… we sucked today and I blame Knapp for a lot but our defesne sucked too.
September 16th, 2012 at 9:28 pm
8-8 with a chance at the playoffs in the last game of season? Yes, give me that any year over watching schitty game play week after week and going 4-12. Not sure who the fk would want to sit through a schitty season over a competitive one
September 16th, 2012 at 9:29 pm
we’ll be seeing Pryor soon. I hope he can play. Raiders should use that 1st overall pick on the biggest meanest defensive player they can find
September 16th, 2012 at 9:29 pm
Pitsburg will pass for 350yds. At least
September 16th, 2012 at 9:29 pm
Why on earth would we draft Barkley?????
Anything other than trading down would be a HUGE mistake.
We need 2 OGs, 2 CBs, and a OLB to rush the passer when we go 3-4.
September 16th, 2012 at 9:29 pm
MaxtallicA Says:EYE!!!!!///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////Forgot about that.I!
September 16th, 2012 at 9:30 pm
Pryor time!!!!
September 16th, 2012 at 9:30 pm
Jason Campbell getting hurt set the franchise back
September 16th, 2012 at 9:30 pm
Marks hair Says: Pitsburg will pass for 350yds. At least/////////////////////////////////And lose.
September 16th, 2012 at 9:30 pm
There is absolutely NO WAY to sugar coat that. That was horrible. The number one thing to me is Dennis Allen told all of us that he wanted to see improvement week by week. That is all I wanted to see. Football teams normally improve the most between weeks one and two and that is basically at every level. Not only did we NOT improve, we regressed in basically EVERY area, starting with the coaching and continuing through to each and every unit on the field.
September 16th, 2012 at 9:30 pm
We can’t even score a TD at 1st and goal…how can we defeat the Steelers? We are not together…we look a hot mess and that’s coming from true love.
September 16th, 2012 at 9:30 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 9:24 pm
what about wins and losses jfb?
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What about them?
Didn’t we start 2010 1-3, against 4 pretty crappy teams?
If people are willing to through a parade for going 8-8 be my guest.
I would rather be 4-12 honestly and get the draft pick honestly.
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So we were dishonestly 8-8 two years in a row? What does that even mean?
And are you indirectly praising Hue Jackson for getting a 4-12 team to 8-8?
September 16th, 2012 at 9:31 pm
Trust me, we are going to come out strong against the steelers. We will win that one for sure. You’ll see, you’ll be sorry
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Not sure any Raider would be sorry, just very suprised and happy
September 16th, 2012 at 9:31 pm
J Hill Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 9:29 pm
Why on earth would we draft Barkley?????
Anything other than trading down would be a HUGE mistake.
We need 2 OGs, 2 CBs, and a OLB to rush the passer when we go 3-4.
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Also add an NT, QB, RB, and WR to the list too
September 16th, 2012 at 9:31 pm
oh yeah
September 16th, 2012 at 9:31 pm
J Hill Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 9:29 pm
Why on earth would we draft Barkley?????
Anything other than trading down would be a HUGE mistake.
We need 2 OGs, 2 CBs, and a OLB to rush the passer when we go 3-4.
>> no man you need a new FACE of the franchise, and it should be on defense. find a leader and fill the holes in later
September 16th, 2012 at 9:32 pm
IN ONE OFFSEASON, UNDER GREG KNAPP’S SCHEME, DARREN MCFADDEN HAS GONE FROM BEING THE BEST BACK IN THE LEAGUE TO BEING ARGUABLY THE WORST!!! HE IS AVERAGING LESS THAT 2 YDS A CARRY!!!
The majority of our weapons on offense including the QB were drafted or acquired using the Al Davis, vertical, stretch the field, power scheme philosophy.
We do not have the player personnel to fully implement what Knapp is trying to do!
This entire thing was handled completely AZZ BACKWARDS from the start!!!
Make Al Saunders the OC and reassign Greg Knapp to QB coach to help Terrelle Pryor develop!!
We have to send the UNITED message that Dennis Allen and Greg Knapp’s CRONYISM and misplaced EGOTISM, is NOT more valuable than the PASSION, LOVE, and SUPPORT of the RAIDER NATION!!!
As a result…
J Raider started the OFFICIAL:
“FIRE”, “DEMOTE”, “RELIEVE OF PLAYCALLING DUTIES” GREG KNAPP” PETITION!!!
Whatever language you prefer makes no difference to me!!!
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IT’S TIME TO LEAD A REVOLT AROUND HERE THE LIKES OF WHICH WE HAVEN’T SEEN SINCE PAUL REVERE AND GEORGE WASHINGTON!!!
September 16th, 2012 at 9:32 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says: Jason Campbell getting hurt set the franchise back/////////////////// GeeUYa think? That being said????????????
September 16th, 2012 at 9:32 pm
Need a replacement for DHB really bad.
He is just a guy out there
September 16th, 2012 at 9:33 pm
Goldie7 Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 9:30 pm
We can’t even score a TD at 1st and goal…how can we defeat the Steelers? We are not together…we look a hot mess and that’s coming from true love.
>> i can’t fathom how we could beat PIT. i just can’t. they will kill us. maybe if rothburger,wallace,the running back and the oline all get sick and they take flyers on guys off of the street. steelers will kill OAK by 2 tds.
September 16th, 2012 at 9:33 pm
Because we have been game planning for the steelers for a week now, obviously we saw the dolphins game tape for week one and said eff it, let’s game plan for the steelers, these guys suck, there is no way we can lose this one hahaha hahaha hahaha, do we never game planned for the dolphins, that’s the only explanation. How else could you explain the loss?
September 16th, 2012 at 9:34 pm
Every time somebody asks to be added to the “Fire”, “Replace”, “Demote”, Greg Knapp petition list, I revise it and repost it!
If you don’t like it, scroll past it, or go Hari Kari yourself. That’s how I feel about the situation!
Win, Lose Or Tie, Oakland Raider Til I Die!!!!
September 16th, 2012 at 9:34 pm
Raiders gotta clean these players out of here.
Even if the scheme suks….still make tackles, hit holes, create holes, hit receivers and make catches
September 16th, 2012 at 9:35 pm
Chris in NY Says:
So we were dishonestly 8-8 two years in a row? What does that even mean?
And are you indirectly praising Hue Jackson for getting a 4-12 team to 8-8?/////////////////////////////////////////And weren’t we with pimp slap??
September 16th, 2012 at 9:35 pm
MaxtallicA Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 9:33 pm
Because we have been game planning for the steelers for a week now, obviously we saw the dolphins game tape for week one and said eff it, let’s game plan for the steelers, these guys suck, there is no way we can lose this one hahaha hahaha hahaha, do we never game planned for the dolphins, that’s the only explanation. How else could you explain the loss?
>> yes, the players on defense are not very good and the OC is worse
September 16th, 2012 at 9:35 pm
Finally….I’m on the list. I tried to give Knapp a benefit of the doubt…nope not this time. I’m pretty sure Knapp is good people outside of the Raiders and this is nothing personal but my Raiders must perform better.
September 16th, 2012 at 9:35 pm
Purvisman,
That trade for Carson Palmer was one of the WORST football decisions in sports history
September 16th, 2012 at 9:35 pm
For the guys that are saying “in 2-3 yrs. this team will be challenging for the playoffs” what evidence do u have for this assertion?
With Reggie and DA in charge? What have they done outside of taking an 8-8 team and turning it into….THIS?
I guess if we have a competent GM and HC by then we WILL challenge.
September 16th, 2012 at 9:36 pm
need to find ray Lewis in the draft
September 16th, 2012 at 9:36 pm
manassamauler Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 9:33 pm
Goldie7 Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 9:30 pm
We can’t even score a TD at 1st and goal…how can we defeat the Steelers? We are not together…we look a hot mess and that’s coming from true love.
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That line of horse manure by Dennis Allen about the Offense needing better field position was almost believable….
UNTIL, Adams ran the punt all the way to the opposing 25 yard line, and Knapp still couldn’t devise a proper play to get into the end zone!
September 16th, 2012 at 9:36 pm
You see you’ll be sorry
September 16th, 2012 at 9:36 pm
So delusional to hear Shaugnassy say ‘we’re the more talented team’ when we just got WHOOPED by that team… Can’t say I agree with his assessment.
You ARE what your record says you are.
We are a winless team with seemingly no plan for success.
September 16th, 2012 at 9:36 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 9:35 pm
Purvisman,
That trade for Carson Palmer was one of the WORST football decisions in sports history
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You’re not seriously gonna blame Palmer for this crap are you?
September 16th, 2012 at 9:37 pm
Naw Goldie i had some stuff 860-1300 you would of appreciated!
September 16th, 2012 at 9:37 pm
loronzo neal…”you cant play basketball on the grass and win consistantly”
September 16th, 2012 at 9:37 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 9:32 pm
Need a replacement for DHB really bad.
He is just a guy out there
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C’MON you can say that about everybody on offense, its crazy what a schitty OC can do
September 16th, 2012 at 9:37 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 9:35 pm
Purvisman,
That trade for Carson Palmer was one of the WORST football decisions in sports history
>> yep and people here still think Hue should be HC. unreal, HUE was a MORON, complete MORON as a HC.
September 16th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
This sucks, we are already talking about the draft in Sept., FIRE KNAPP NOW!!!!
September 16th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
Guys like Ed Reed make plays….Vernon Davis makes plays….and even this RGIII guy.
Raiders just treat each week like its bullshhhh
September 16th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
GREG KNAPP IS ON THE VERGE OF LITERALLY KILLING DARREN MCFADDEN’S CAREER WITH THE RAIDERS.
MIND YOU MCFADDEN, EVEN WITH HIS CONSTANT INJURIES, WAS PICKED BY HIS PEERS AS ONE OF THE 100 BEST PLAYERS IN THE ENTIRE NFL.
GREG KNAPP IS HELL BENT ON MAKING SURE THAT HE GETS REMOVED FROM THAT LIST THIS SEASON!!!
September 16th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
Also add an NT, QB, RB, and WR to the list too
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Seymour will be gone next year. Houston will move inside and ShoNasty will go back to LDE.
Need to see what we have in Pryor
Goodson is the real deal. Is 20 a free agent net year?
WR position has enough youth with Moore, Streater, and Criner.
September 16th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
with D as head coach we’ll take the best defensive player in the first round, unless Pryor REALLY sucks
September 16th, 2012 at 9:39 pm
purvisman Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 9:35 pm
Chris in NY Says:
So we were dishonestly 8-8 two years in a row? What does that even mean?
And are you indirectly praising Hue Jackson for getting a 4-12 team to 8-8?/////////////////////////////////////////And weren’t we with pimp slap??
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Depends how you look at it. We were 9-19 with the pimpslap before Hue’s arrival resurrected a long awful offense and helped us to 8-8 in Cable’s final season.
September 16th, 2012 at 9:39 pm
120.manassamauler Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 9:33 pm
Goldie7 Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 9:30 pm
We can’t even score a TD at 1st and goal…how can we defeat the Steelers? We are not together…we look a hot mess and that’s coming from true love.
>> i can’t fathom how we could beat PIT. i just can’t. they will kill us. maybe if rothburger,wallace,the running back and the oline all get sick and they take flyers on guys off of the street. steelers will kill OAK by 2 tds.
lol…just imagine when we play bobble head Manning
and his crew. What should we do watch the game anyway and hope for the best?
September 16th, 2012 at 9:39 pm
Gruden!!! At least i enjoyed him chewing out the players!
September 16th, 2012 at 9:39 pm
Can we add hoffman when we fire/demote knapp? He sucks too
September 16th, 2012 at 9:39 pm
Steelers aren’t that good really
September 16th, 2012 at 9:40 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 9:36 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 9:35 pm
Purvisman,
That trade for Carson Palmer was one of the WORST football decisions in sports history
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You’re not seriously gonna blame Palmer for this crap are you?
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One of the things that Raider fans have to change is their standards.
Carson is “supposed” to be an elite QB. Especially at 33 freekn years old.
He is supposed to be able to put the team on his back.
I just see a guy out there….you might as well throw Leinart out there and save the coin.
September 16th, 2012 at 9:40 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 9:30 pm
There is absolutely NO WAY to sugar coat that. That was horrible. The number one thing to me is Dennis Allen told all of us that he wanted to see improvement week by week. That is all I wanted to see. Football teams normally improve the most between weeks one and two and that is basically at every level. Not only did we NOT improve, we regressed in basically EVERY area, starting with the coaching and continuing through to each and every unit on the field.
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Yeah, and THAT’S the management that will get us to the promised land in 2-3 yrs.? Yeah right.
September 16th, 2012 at 9:40 pm
Just finished watching SF v Lions: great game.
Concerning the Raiders, they have mostly talentless players and coaches, a has been, washed up old QB who couldn’t lead an alligator into a swamp, and most importantly lack anyone who knows how to play football in the NFL level.
This includes the big, ugly, red haired freckled faced GM.
September 16th, 2012 at 9:40 pm
I’m aboard the Knapp is Crapp train!
A lot of things had me shaking my head in this game!
Why didn’t the D-Cord. adjust on Hartline?
1st game DMC was the “go to guy” run/pass, this game Knapp abandoned him!???
For myself, I noticed we threw to Gordon TE who imo is a lil slower than Meyers&Ausberry. I would use Gordon primarily as a blocker & ST but on occasion throw to him. Meyers/Ausberry primary receiving TE!-No adjustments on that! Dint think Gordon even caught a pass?
Palmer missed way too many passes!
September 16th, 2012 at 9:41 pm
bright note..]Shonasty performed well today…nice hit on the rookie QB.
September 16th, 2012 at 9:41 pm
manassamauler Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 9:36 pm
need to find ray Lewis in the draft
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Uhh, no problem?
Thank God Reggie is a genius.
September 16th, 2012 at 9:41 pm
I will be surprised if DMac makes it to the break!
September 16th, 2012 at 9:41 pm
dmc can score from anywhere on the field….unless krappy uses him
September 16th, 2012 at 9:42 pm
148,
I’d like to see how ANY qb would do with no line a 2 ypc running game, and an inept OC calling plays.
Not too good.
September 16th, 2012 at 9:42 pm
Hue did not suck!
He had the offense rolling and all he needed was a better defensive coordinator with a legit scheme and he needed to work on the penalties.
Under DA this team is still making penalties and the offense has now regressed and sucks now.
Our talented players on offense are being wasted with this crappy Knapp ZBS unimaginative and weak offensive system.
September 16th, 2012 at 9:42 pm
Really
September 16th, 2012 at 9:43 pm
As a dedicated fan….I’m looking for explanations some time soon this week. I need answers.
September 16th, 2012 at 9:44 pm
Raiders really need to strip the Davis family from a controlling position in the partnership.
Otherwise all will be lost.
Repeat these words: the Davis family does not own the Raiders – the partnership does. Under the law Davis’ can be forced to divest their ownership interest in the Raiders and be held personally liable for intentional or negligent acts incurred by the Davis family.
Wash away the taint!
September 16th, 2012 at 9:44 pm
We could beat Pitt. Heck, that was one of our two wins under The Hat Part II, and that season was probably the worst professional football team I’ve seen in my life.
But there’s no reason to expect such a win.
September 16th, 2012 at 9:44 pm
J Hill Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
Also add an NT, QB, RB, and WR to the list too
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Seymour will be gone next year. Houston will move inside and ShoNasty will go back to LDE.
Need to see what we have in Pryor
Goodson is the real deal. Is 20 a free agent net year?
WR position has enough youth with Moore, Streater, and Criner
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I’ll give you Houston…
Goodson is not the real deal. Need a zone runner. DMAC will be traded this year. DMAC will get disgruntled and Knapp and Co will want “their” guy.
Pryor? Assumes he plays this year or even that the coaches really like him…which I don’t think they do.
WR = DHB has to be replaced. Streeter and Hagan arent the guys to do it
September 16th, 2012 at 9:45 pm
ZBS is JUNK, for this team. What a waste of talent,POWER,POWER,POWER is the way, GN Should step aside,puzzy play caller,IMO
September 16th, 2012 at 9:45 pm
Where’s the list to Fire Knapp and the ZBS system & how many are on it now?
Seems as though the reporters are picking up what we are putting down regarding our current state of affairs. Changes need to be made now. If DA is smart, he’ll make changes. If not, he can get fired too!
September 16th, 2012 at 9:45 pm
This is what happens when you have cronyism within an organization. FIRE KNAPP!! KNAPP and DA are good friends. Reggie should of known better than to take KNAPP.
September 16th, 2012 at 9:45 pm
Were gonna Do everything possible to keep darrem McFadden healthy by trying to use him in different capacities to conserve him!! Whoopedy whoop woop!! The BS is coming to the Surface fast! Once Hue’s BS floated the team quit!! We saw the Defense quit today!!
September 16th, 2012 at 9:46 pm
its too stupid in here ….
September 16th, 2012 at 9:47 pm
No matter how it gets spun,
You are what your record says you are,
And right now we are a winless team that is playing
Without much urgency, pace or passion.
Something is wrong, and it seems like a fix isn’t forthcoming.
September 16th, 2012 at 9:47 pm
For all those in Oakland I hope the fans are voicing their dipleasure on the radio and other media. FIRE KNAPP!!!
September 16th, 2012 at 9:47 pm
Cronyism is what ruins teams.
Head coaches need to start hiring the best possible candidates as assistan coaches and coordinators and not hire their friends as coaches who suck!
September 16th, 2012 at 9:47 pm
A huge buch of shlt!!
September 16th, 2012 at 9:47 pm
Remember when Jamarcus was at the press conference answering questions in a fur jacket? I knew what had problems the moment I saw him decked out in a fur and had not accomplished anything in the NFL.
September 16th, 2012 at 9:48 pm
Too much coin being paid out to lose to the Dolphins
September 16th, 2012 at 9:48 pm
Our ST is atrocious as well. They kept putting the offense in bad field position. Anyone else notice that Miami’s gunners were always running free and it was all on Adams to make them miss? Going the other way, Miami always had ours blocked and were able to get positive yardage. And will Hoffman tell them to stop fielding punts inside the 5 yard line. They also came close to blocking Shane a few times. Hoffman needs to go as well.
September 16th, 2012 at 9:48 pm
Chris in NY Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 9:44 pm
We could beat Pitt. Heck, that was one of our two wins under The Hat Part II, and that season was probably the worst professional football team I’ve seen in my life.
But there’s no reason to expect such a win.
>> rothlesburger is going to have fun with our non existent pass rush and Junior College corners. this could be a historic ass whoopin.if its not its because OAK is playing for their season ans their coach
September 16th, 2012 at 9:49 pm
Chris in NY Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 9:44 pm
We could beat Pitt. Heck, that was one of our two wins under The Hat Part II, and that season was probably the worst professional football team I’ve seen in my life.
But there’s no reason to expect such a win.
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we could beat our meat too. Which one is more likely to happen? We are NOT going to beat anyone with Knapp at the controls & while using the ZBS. We should just save the effort & mail it in. Our locker room will soon be at a point of no return for this year unless changes are made. DA had better step up & make the changes necessary to turn this turd around.
September 16th, 2012 at 9:49 pm
160, STFU,Raiders dont need anything but POWER Football,imo…
September 16th, 2012 at 9:49 pm
J Hill Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
… Goodson is the real deal. Is 20 a free agent net year?
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Need to disagree with you here. Goodson caught one swing pass where he was uncovered and then ran down the field untouched for a TD. He ran the ball one time for -6 yards.
I basically could’ve done what he did tdoay.
September 16th, 2012 at 9:49 pm
Stringer Bell Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 9:48 pm
Our ST is atrocious as well. They kept putting the offense in bad field position. Anyone else notice that Miami’s gunners were always running free and it was all on Adams to make them miss? Going the other way, Miami always had ours blocked and were able to get positive yardage. And will Hoffman tell them to stop fielding punts inside the 5 yard line. They also came close to blocking Shane a few times. Hoffman needs to go as well
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Oh yeah….Raiders special teams and offense has REGRESSED from the last two years and now they are inept and suck!
September 16th, 2012 at 9:49 pm
Stringer Bell Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 9:48 pm
Our ST is atrocious as well. They kept putting the offense in bad field position. Anyone else notice that Miami’s gunners were always running free and it was all on Adams to make them miss? Going the other way, Miami always had ours blocked and were able to get positive yardage. And will Hoffman tell them to stop fielding punts inside the 5 yard line. They also came close to blocking Shane a few times. Hoffman needs to go as well.
>> oh yeah the ST is the worst unit. they should hire me as ST coach i can’t do worse.
September 16th, 2012 at 9:50 pm
Mark Sanchez isn’t too bright. We will win the steelers. Want to bet? EYE!!!
September 16th, 2012 at 9:51 pm
please add me to the fire knapp list
September 16th, 2012 at 9:51 pm
They stink and i hate um!! Raider power!
September 16th, 2012 at 9:51 pm
Where are the IDIOTS who wanted Hue Jackson fired again??
This what you get when you make dumb overzealous decisions.
You get a team on the verge of making the playoffs the last two years and being competitive within the division to regressing and sucking again!
September 16th, 2012 at 9:51 pm
also add me to the fire Knapp list
September 16th, 2012 at 9:51 pm
IF/when we lose to PIT we should start a “start Terrell Pryor” petition too.
September 16th, 2012 at 9:52 pm
Knapp is Krapp, u kno I’m on the list…
DA has to light a fire under this team and his coaching staff,
Cause what’s going on isn’t gonna cut it.
Illegal blocks on back to back pint returns?
Fielding punts inside the 10? Twice?
Poor coaching leads to poor execution.
The message isn’t getting heard, and that’s on the coaches…
September 16th, 2012 at 9:52 pm
Gradkowski beat the steelers
September 16th, 2012 at 9:52 pm
Oh well everyone back to work! We suck! No sense worrying about it anymore!
September 16th, 2012 at 9:53 pm
Knapp and hoffman eat cocks..
September 16th, 2012 at 9:53 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 9:32 pm
Need a replacement for DHB really bad.
He is just a guy out there
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DHB is a force fed crap azz who barely ranks above McClain (and that isn’t saying much).
I have heard the moronic worshipers wax on and on regarding the greatness of DHB judging him to be heads and tails above Crabtree.
I’ll tell you here and now that’s a bunch of nonsense. Crabtree converted 4 first downs on the 49′ers final drive tonight, which enabled them to beat the Lions.
Crabtree may have a bad attitude, but I would rather have him with forever and day than jackazz DHB.
And btw, dump taiwan jones now with his “lil” rib injury.
September 16th, 2012 at 9:53 pm
HUE JACKSOn sucked. 163 penalties, 3rd worst defense in raider history AND he traded a 1st and 2nd round pick for his BOY carson Palmer. HUE was a joke as HC, a complete MORON as HC. as OC hue has scruples, as head coach he was a joke.
September 16th, 2012 at 9:54 pm
TK, Seymour, DHB, Huff, Barnes, Palmer,a WCO’d DMAC, Branch, Bartell, Spencer, Lee, Carlisle, Biesel, Taiwan Jones…
Time to step
September 16th, 2012 at 9:54 pm
This team will be lucky to win 4 games this year.
How sad!
September 16th, 2012 at 9:54 pm
I too have lost my patience w DA.
Everyone on this board plus every beat writer and reporter covering this team is saying the SAME thing that Raiders don’t have a zbs players to make this work. And yet the only two guys responsible for that decision DA and Knapp are SAYING otherwise.
It will be UGLY at the stadium next week when fans turn on those two guys. UGLY!
And they fully deserve it.
I’m so glad Jim Harbaugh proved that it should not take four years for a HC to turn a team around. Therefor DA could not and should not try to hide under his “let’s get better one day at a time crap!”
September 16th, 2012 at 9:54 pm
Remember when Jamarcus was at the press conference answering questions in a fur jacket? I knew what had problems the moment I saw him decked out in a fur and had not accomplished anything in the NFL.
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my bad…I meant to say post game press conference and I knew we had problems. lol
September 16th, 2012 at 9:54 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 9:40 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 9:36 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 9:35 pm
Purvisman,
That trade for Carson Palmer was one of the WORST football decisions in sports history
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You’re not seriously gonna blame Palmer for this crap are you?
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One of the things that Raider fans have to change is their standards.
Carson is “supposed” to be an elite QB. Especially at 33 freekn years old.
He is supposed to be able to put the team on his back.
I just see a guy out there….you might as well throw Leinart out there and save the coin.
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See, this is crazy talk. Palmer has played incredibly well for us since he got here. The guy who I now realize is a BIG problem is McFadden. McFadden did little if anything for his lst 2 years, had a good third of a season last year and then disappeared again with an injury. This year he has been TERRIBLE. And watch him. He takes a two yard dive each carry. We put in Mike Goodson for one play, and Goodson goes 60 yards to the house. Then we bring back McFadden who does NOTHING! It is becoming PAINFULLY apparent that MCFadden loves the big checks, the big houses, the baby momma’s, and sitting around watching others play the game.
September 16th, 2012 at 9:55 pm
Terrell Pryor= young, talented and hungry. start him.
September 16th, 2012 at 9:55 pm
Chris,
Goodson IS a really good player.
Has the same issues as DMac running behind this HORRIFIC Oline.
Do you recall that play?
It was another lateral run where the DT was 3 yd in the backfield, lol.
September 16th, 2012 at 9:55 pm
I wipe with your playsheet knapp
September 16th, 2012 at 9:55 pm
MaxtallicA,
The Steelers will kick our azzes from here to Sunday next week. Want to bet a $1000 on it ??? EYE!!!!
September 16th, 2012 at 9:55 pm
Dhidee99 Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 9:06 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
IN ONE OFFSEASON, UNDER GREG KNAPP’S SCHEME, DARREN MCFADDEN HAS GONE FROM BEING THE BEST BACK IN THE LEAGUE TO BEING ARGUABLY THE WORST!!! HE IS AVERAGING LESS THAT 2 YDS A CARRY!!!
The entire transition of the offense was handled improperly!
The majority of our weapons on offense including the QB were drafted or acquired using the Al Davis, vertical, stretch the field, power scheme philosophy.
We do not have the player personnel to fully implement what Knapp is trying to do!
This entire thing was handled completely AZZ BACKWARDS from the start!!!
Make Al Saunders the OC and reassign Greg Knapp to QB coach to help Terrelle Pryor develop!!
This is the most logical thing to do to get optimum performance from our players, preserve team continuity, and still have a chance to win the division!!!
As a result…
J Raider has started the OFFICIAL:
“FIRE”, “DEMOTE”, “RELIEVE OF PLAYCALLING DUTIES” GREG KNAPP” PETITION!!!
Whatever language you prefer makes no difference to me!!!
*Dhidee99
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September 16th, 2012 at 9:55 pm
I knew Knapp would fail to call any good plays that would score a TD before half time and that was very important to get accomplished and Knapp predictably FAILED!
DMC catching the ball at the 3 wouldn’t of mattered, cause Knapp would have screwed it up from the 3 yard line anyways.
September 16th, 2012 at 9:56 pm
1-2 Baby!!!!
September 16th, 2012 at 9:57 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 9:54 pm
TK, Seymour, DHB, Huff, Barnes, Palmer,a WCO’d DMAC, Branch, Bartell, Spencer, Lee, Carlisle, Biesel, Taiwan Jones…
Time to step
>> into the unemployment line.(minus DHB,DMAC(maybe) Branch and TJ IMO
September 16th, 2012 at 9:57 pm
Kelly just restructured. Can’t see the ole vet going anywhere.
Same with Branch and his new contract, wouldn’t you say.
Is DMac a FA???
I could see everyone else on your list not being here next year.
September 16th, 2012 at 9:57 pm
And why aren’t we seeing Pryor being used in red zone situations like Cam and Griffin are being used in Carline and Wash??
Reece is signed to an extension and Knapp doesn’t even know how to use him!
What a joke!
September 16th, 2012 at 9:57 pm
DKnight007 Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 9:51 pm
Where are the IDIOTS who wanted Hue Jackson fired again??
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Why can’t we just have a competent and real head coach.
Hue’s teams looked just like today down the stretch….stop the revisioninst thinking.
THe Raiders have been CURSED with horrendous coaching and so called playmakers over the last 10 years….
September 16th, 2012 at 9:58 pm
DMAC got lucky last yr with the cellar dwellers: jets and bronco and ran over them. A 5 yr old could have done the same thing.
When it comes to playing the top tier teams he’s mediocre at best.
I have been saying that for the past year.
September 16th, 2012 at 9:58 pm
JHill,
I just don’t see any reason to get excited about Goodson. I don’t see it. I see an average back with fumble problems. That TD today was purely the result of blown coverage by the Dolphins and good down field blocking.
September 16th, 2012 at 9:58 pm
Raiders need a Power Plan, screw ZBS. Now,cuz right now we are JUNK, We all know it. DMac has no chance with ZBS, get back to smash mouth Football…….
September 16th, 2012 at 9:59 pm
1-15! Sad, now i feel were as bad as everyone says we are!
September 16th, 2012 at 9:59 pm
DKnight007 Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 9:51 pm
Where are the IDIOTS who wanted Hue Jackson fired again??
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Why are we talking about HUE JACKSON?? Hue Jackson lost the team. Hue Jackson went played .200 ball to end the season. Hue Jackson went what, half the season without scoring any second half points? Hue Jackson didn’t get a sniff from ANY OTHER TEAM IN THE LEAGUE. And some of you a crying for Hue jackson?? You are losing your cred, man.
September 16th, 2012 at 9:59 pm
Heck…Greg Papa could coach the Raiders better than what we have right now….and he would have us believing in something. Right now we have nothing to look forward too. I’m not use to that.
September 16th, 2012 at 9:59 pm
The fix is obvious:
• Demote Knapp to QB asst. coach – let him work with & develop Pryor as a QB.
• Move Al Saunders to OC and have him call plays. Let Saunders run the Offense entirely.
• Switch back to Power Blocking
• Bench Brisel & replace him with a Power blocking Guard.
• Demote or fire Steve Hoffman, ST Coord.
• Demote or fire Frank Pollack, O-line coach
• Rehire Wylie, last year’s O-line coach
• Rehire Wiz 1.0 to help Wylie
• DA to spend majority of time with Defense & Special Teams.
This is my action plan based on what I’ve seen so far. I approve this plan – JB
September 16th, 2012 at 10:00 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 9:57 pm
DKnight007 Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 9:51 pm
Where are the IDIOTS who wanted Hue Jackson fired again??
==================================================
Why can’t we just have a competent and real head coach.
Hue’s teams looked just like today down the stretch….stop the revisioninst thinking.
THe Raiders have been CURSED with horrendous coaching and so called playmakers over the last 10 years….
^^^^^^^^
All Hue needed was a LEGIT defensive coordinator and to work on the penalty issue this Raider team would have competed for division this year.
But noooooo…they had to start from scratch and all over again and waste the last two years of development.
Now it’s back to ugly football again and these players get tired of constant turnover.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:00 pm
I think Al Davis would kick Mark Davis’s ass right now!
September 16th, 2012 at 10:01 pm
Pissed
September 16th, 2012 at 10:02 pm
Just saw a Raider promo on CSN…
Just hearing Reggie Hack and DA talk makes my skin crawl…
The players still believe that we are better than the Dolphins,
Who just took pummeled us into submission.
What a freaking joke these guys are playing on themselves.
Hell, Regis Philin could have out coached our staff today.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:02 pm
Mcfadden is a beast, BUT the oline can’t block anymore. Dmac is gonna be due for a new contract soon too. will need to decide on him soon
September 16th, 2012 at 10:02 pm
The only act that will bring action is to boycott Raiders games.
Would I buy a computer if it didn’t work, and just put up with it??
Professional football games are a product, and the Raiders produce consistently a defective product.
Tar and feather our big ugly freckled face red haired GM, our skinny ugly spawn of AD, one Mark Davis, complete with red hair and stupid bowl cut, AD, Knapp, Tarver – the whole crew – and run them out of town.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:03 pm
This is good. This is the first step to the return of JON GRUDEN!!!! You heard it hear first. I guarantee it.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:04 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 9:59 pm
DKnight007 Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 9:51 pm
Where are the IDIOTS who wanted Hue Jackson fired again??
============================================
Why are we talking about HUE JACKSON?? Hue Jackson lost the team. Hue Jackson went played .200 ball to end the season. Hue Jackson went what, half the season without scoring any second half points? Hue Jackson didn’t get a sniff from ANY OTHER TEAM IN THE LEAGUE. And some of you a crying for Hue jackson?? You are losing your cred, man
^^^^^^^^
LOL…..Hue had us 1 game from the playoffs without DMC and with Al dying and with Campbell getting hurt mid season and despite having a crappy defensive coordinator like Chuck B.
Hue deserved another year because of all the crazy adversity he went through in his first year as head coach nonetheless.
The people who wanted Hue Jackson fired ended up being WRONG!!
Admit it and then some of you Hue haters may earn you credibility back!
September 16th, 2012 at 10:04 pm
Manassamauler Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 9:31 pm
J Hill Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 9:29 pm
Why on earth would we draft Barkley?????
Anything other than trading down would be a HUGE mistake.
We need 2 OGs, 2 CBs, and a OLB to rush the passer when we go 3-4.
>> no man you need a new FACE of the franchise, and it should be on defense. find a leader and fill the holes in later
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I dont think a new face is coming in this draft. A lot of juniors IF they decide to come out. – have to hope the team grows from week-to-week and they do something about making adjustments – how much input does Saunders have
September 16th, 2012 at 10:05 pm
IN ONE OFFSEASON, UNDER GREG KNAPP’S SCHEME, DARREN MCFADDEN HAS GONE FROM BEING THE BEST BACK IN THE LEAGUE TO BEING ARGUABLY THE WORST!!! HE IS AVERAGING LESS THAT 2 YDS A CARRY!!!
The majority of our weapons on offense including the QB were drafted or acquired using the Al Davis, vertical, stretch the field, power scheme philosophy.
We do not have the player personnel to fully implement what Knapp is trying to do!
This entire thing was handled completely AZZ BACKWARDS from the start!!!
Make Al Saunders the OC and reassign Greg Knapp to QB coach to help Terrelle Pryor develop!!
We have to send the UNITED message that Dennis Allen and Greg Knapp’s CRONYISM and misplaced EGOTISM, is NOT more valuable than the PASSION, LOVE, and SUPPORT of the RAIDER NATION!!!
As a result…
J Raider started the OFFICIAL:
“FIRE”, “DEMOTE”, “RELIEVE OF PLAYCALLING DUTIES” GREG KNAPP” PETITION!!!
Whatever language you prefer makes no difference to me!!!
*J-Raider
*MonumentRaider
*EMRaiders
*JB
*Al_is_Theraiders
*Raiderimmortal
*Elraidmanhattan
*DKnight007
*Marks Hair
*ArmChairGM
*Stringer Bell
*Ooo0ooO
*RaidO
*Armond
*Drray
*RaiderDav
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*zopi
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*poprox13
*davidon
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*Rooch
*MaxtallicA
*Goldie7
*RaiderHopeful18
*Dhidee99
*CutStryker
*Hendu
*Devilr8er
IT’S TIME TO LEAD A REVOLT AROUND HERE THE LIKES OF WHICH WE HAVEN’T SEEN SINCE PAUL REVERE AND GEORGE WASHINGTON!!!
September 16th, 2012 at 10:05 pm
JB Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 9:59 pm
The fix is obvious:
• Demote Knapp to QB asst. coach – let him work with & develop Pryor as a QB.
• Move Al Saunders to OC and have him call plays. Let Saunders run the Offense entirely.
• Switch back to Power Blocking
• Bench Brisel & replace him with a Power blocking Guard.
• Demote or fire Steve Hoffman, ST Coord.
• Demote or fire Frank Pollack, O-line coach
• Rehire Wylie, last year’s O-line coach
• Rehire Wiz 1.0 to help Wylie
• DA to spend majority of time with Defense & Special Teams.
This is my action plan based on what I’ve seen so far. I approve this plan – JB
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Not a bad plan. Just remember the following addition: take our big, ugly, red haired, freckled face GM, bust him upside with an ax handle, tar and feather him, and drop him off at the city limits.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:05 pm
RaiderDanny Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:00 pm
I think Al Davis would kick Mark Davis’s ass right now!
^^^^^^^^^
He would have! Old man Al is rolling in his grave when Hue was fired and DA hired and then especially when Knapp was hired as OC!
Ugh!
September 16th, 2012 at 10:06 pm
MaxtallicA Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:03 pm
This is good. This is the first step to the return of JON GRUDEN!!!! You heard it hear first. I guarantee it.
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That would be good for the fan base and the attitude of the team – if he gets the proper staff…his thing was he never quite had a QB in Tampa, then had too many.
It be a nice thought…but an expensive one.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:06 pm
this team should find a leader on defense. would be a welcome change to an NFL caliber defense in OAK.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:06 pm
Unfortunately there won’t be any coaching changes this year. We are going to have to ride this out. I doubt Reggie gets rid of DA unless they go 0-16 (which is very hard to do, even the B&B Raiders won 2 games). If Knapp goes, it will be during the offseason and DA will be the one that has to make that call.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:06 pm
Chris,
Keep in mind we are talking about a backup RB in Goodson. He’s a good player. Good compliment to DMac.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:06 pm
Boycott all Raiders home games. They are ripping us off.
Dump Reggie tomorrow!
September 16th, 2012 at 10:07 pm
DKnight007 Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:04 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 9:59 pm
DKnight007 Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 9:51 pm
Where are the IDIOTS who wanted Hue Jackson fired again??
============================================
Why are we talking about HUE JACKSON?? Hue Jackson lost the team. Hue Jackson went played .200 ball to end the season. Hue Jackson went what, half the season without scoring any second half points? Hue Jackson didn’t get a sniff from ANY OTHER TEAM IN THE LEAGUE. And some of you a crying for Hue jackson?? You are losing your cred, man
^^^^^^^^
LOL…..Hue had us 1 game from the playoffs without DMC and with Al dying and with Campbell getting hurt mid season and despite having a crappy defensive coordinator like Chuck B.
Hue deserved another year because of all the crazy adversity he went through in his first year as head coach nonetheless.
The people who wanted Hue Jackson fired ended up being WRONG!!
Admit it and then some of you Hue haters may earn you credibility back!
>> AND HUES
September 16th, 2012 at 10:07 pm
RaidersOne Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:05 pm
JB Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 9:59 pm
The fix is obvious:
• Demote Knapp to QB asst. coach – let him work with & develop Pryor as a QB.
• Move Al Saunders to OC and have him call plays. Let Saunders run the Offense entirely.
• Switch back to Power Blocking
• Bench Brisel & replace him with a Power blocking Guard.
• Demote or fire Steve Hoffman, ST Coord.
• Demote or fire Frank Pollack, O-line coach
• Rehire Wylie, last year’s O-line coach
• Rehire Wiz 1.0 to help Wylie
• DA to spend majority of time with Defense & Special Teams.
This is my action plan based on what I’ve seen so far. I approve this plan – JB
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Why didnt they keep Wylie in the first place. And yes, Niners were excellent – THATS how you open up a season at home.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:07 pm
Admit it and then some of you Hue haters may earn you credibility back!
==========================================
Unfortunately, we could go with what some Raider fans believe, or the people that actually run teams in the NFL. They seem to side with me. I will stay with them. They have cred.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:07 pm
JB Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 9:59 pm
The fix is obvious:
• Demote Knapp to QB asst. coach – let him work with & develop Pryor as a QB.
• Move Al Saunders to OC and have him call plays. Let Saunders run the Offense entirely.
• Switch back to Power Blocking
• Bench Brisel & replace him with a Power blocking Guard.
• Demote or fire Steve Hoffman, ST Coord.
• Demote or fire Frank Pollack, O-line coach
• Rehire Wylie, last year’s O-line coach
• Rehire Wiz 1.0 to help Wylie
• DA to spend majority of time with Defense & Special Teams.
This is my action plan based on what I’ve seen so far. I approve this plan – JB
_______________________________________________________
AS usual, we see eye to eye JB. Good post!
September 16th, 2012 at 10:08 pm
this team should find a leader on defense. would be a welcome change to an NFL caliber defense in OAK.
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Agreed, if we had a real leader on D it would go a long way in having guys accountable and call them out for folding like lawn chairs year after year. Ray Lewis would never stand for this crap.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:09 pm
manassamauler Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:07 pm
DKnight007 Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:04 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 9:59 pm
DKnight007 Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 9:51 pm
Where are the IDIOTS who wanted Hue Jackson fired again??
============================================
Why are we talking about HUE JACKSON?? Hue Jackson lost the team. Hue Jackson went played .200 ball to end the season. Hue Jackson went what, half the season without scoring any second half points? Hue Jackson didn’t get a sniff from ANY OTHER TEAM IN THE LEAGUE. And some of you a crying for Hue jackson?? You are losing your cred, man
^^^^^^^^
LOL…..Hue had us 1 game from the playoffs without DMC and with Al dying and with Campbell getting hurt mid season and despite having a crappy defensive coordinator like Chuck B.
Hue deserved another year because of all the crazy adversity he went through in his first year as head coach nonetheless.
The people who wanted Hue Jackson fired ended up being WRONG!!
Admit it and then some of you Hue haters may earn you credibility back!
>> AND HUES
>> hUES TEAM CHOKED EVERY TIME IT MATTERED. it was a horribly coached team. the losses to the lions and chargers were ridiculous. Hues Jackson deserved to b fired. he should have stayed OC. hue was never HC material.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:09 pm
The fix is obvious:
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One thing I saw today was McClain unfortunately reverted back to being McClain. And then we had no corners out there. No pass defense and no run defense is not going to win many games. Personally, that’s where I would start.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:10 pm
Aye!
September 16th, 2012 at 10:11 pm
Put me on that list armchair. Thus crap pisses me off and ruins my weekend.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:11 pm
Stringer Bell Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:08 pm
this team should find a leader on defense. would be a welcome change to an NFL caliber defense in OAK.
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Agreed, if we had a real leader on D it would go a long way in having guys accountable and call them out for folding like lawn chairs year after year. Ray Lewis would never stand for this crap.
>> well seymour and kelly are gone, huff too IMO. McClain isn’t the Real McCoy. don’t know who they should get, should a MLB IMO or a FS.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:13 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:07 pm
Admit it and then some of you Hue haters may earn you credibility back!
==========================================
Unfortunately, we could go with what some Raider fans believe, or the people that actually run teams in the NFL. They seem to side with me. I will stay with them. They have cred.
^^^^^^^^
Stubborness and stupidity is not a good mix.
Let’s how credible you and they are after this Raider team wins 3 games and shows a terrible regression from the last two years.
It’s all about WINNING bruh!
September 16th, 2012 at 10:13 pm
Make sure to sign me to the petition!
Knapp is Crapp!
September 16th, 2012 at 10:13 pm
Get Gruden!! A must! Keep Tarver! Get rid of Seymour-waste of money!! Get Wylie and Jon Fassel out the arena league for special teams! Huff,Branch,Mitchell,all the corners cut!!
September 16th, 2012 at 10:14 pm
IN ONE OFFSEASON, UNDER GREG KNAPP’S SCHEME, DARREN MCFADDEN HAS GONE FROM BEING THE BEST BACK IN THE LEAGUE TO BEING ARGUABLY THE WORST!!! HE IS AVERAGING LESS THAT 2 YDS A CARRY!!!
The majority of our weapons on offense including the QB were drafted or acquired using the Al Davis, vertical, stretch the field, power scheme philosophy.
We do not have the player personnel to fully implement what Knapp is trying to do!
This entire thing was handled completely AZZ BACKWARDS from the start!!!
Make Al Saunders the OC and reassign Greg Knapp to QB coach to help Terrelle Pryor develop!!
We have to send the UNITED message that Dennis Allen and Greg Knapp’s CRONYISM and misplaced EGOTISM, is NOT more valuable than the PASSION, LOVE, and SUPPORT of the RAIDER NATION!!!
As a result…
J Raider started the OFFICIAL:
“FIRE”, “DEMOTE”, “RELIEVE OF PLAYCALLING DUTIES” GREG KNAPP” PETITION!!!
Whatever language you prefer makes no difference to me!!!
*J-Raider
*MonumentRaider
*EMRaiders
*JB
*Al_is_Theraiders
*Raiderimmortal
*Elraidmanhattan
*DKnight007
*Marks Hair
*ArmChairGM
*Stringer Bell
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IT’S TIME TO LEAD A REVOLT AROUND HERE THE LIKES OF WHICH WE HAVEN’T SEEN SINCE PAUL REVERE AND GEORGE WASHINGTON!!!
September 16th, 2012 at 10:14 pm
i picked OAK to finish 7-9 this year and i was foolish. i didn’t expect dennis allen to lead this team to the playoffs this year. but Knapp’ slowffense and the Special ED teams have been JC level.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:14 pm
Eye!!!!!?
September 16th, 2012 at 10:14 pm
It would be hard to put this on McClain, the defense as a whole just fell apart in the 2nd half, very similar to last years 2nd game in Buffalo which was also on the eastcoast coming off a short week. The D looked good the 1st half in both games than the wheels just fell off in the 2nd half
September 16th, 2012 at 10:14 pm
Raider Sam
Wylie is a power blocking O-line coach. DA wanted his golfing buddy, Knapp & his ZBS philosophy so they got Pollard, a Texas ZBS O-line coach. Pollard also brought Brisel, a ZBS Guard from Texas. He was our big FA acquisition this year. So far he sucks too! Wiz 1.0 probably left because he could see what was coming & didn’t want to be part of it. Can’t say I blame him either.
BTW, Wylie is available & not under contract to any other team. Last year’s O-line was top 5 and that was with Satele who was a real weak link.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:15 pm
DKnight007 Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:13 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:07 pm
Admit it and then some of you Hue haters may earn you credibility back!
==========================================
Unfortunately, we could go with what some Raider fans believe, or the people that actually run teams in the NFL. They seem to side with me. I will stay with them. They have cred.
^^^^^^^^
Stubborness and stupidity is not a good mix.
Let’s how credible you and they are after this Raider team wins 3 games and shows a terrible regression from the last two years.
It’s all about WINNING bruh!
> why didn’t HUE At least get an OC job?
September 16th, 2012 at 10:15 pm
manassamauler Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:09 pm
manassamauler Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:07 pm
DKnight007 Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:04 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 9:59 pm
DKnight007 Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 9:51 pm
Where are the IDIOTS who wanted Hue Jackson fired again??
============================================
Why are we talking about HUE JACKSON?? Hue Jackson lost the team. Hue Jackson went played .200 ball to end the season. Hue Jackson went what, half the season without scoring any second half points? Hue Jackson didn’t get a sniff from ANY OTHER TEAM IN THE LEAGUE. And some of you a crying for Hue jackson?? You are losing your cred, man
^^^^^^^^
LOL…..Hue had us 1 game from the playoffs without DMC and with Al dying and with Campbell getting hurt mid season and despite having a crappy defensive coordinator like Chuck B.
Hue deserved another year because of all the crazy adversity he went through in his first year as head coach nonetheless.
The people who wanted Hue Jackson fired ended up being WRONG!!
Admit it and then some of you Hue haters may earn you credibility back!
>> AND HUES
>> hUES TEAM CHOKED EVERY TIME IT MATTERED. it was a horribly coached team. the losses to the lions and chargers were ridiculous. Hues Jackson deserved to b fired. he should have stayed OC. hue was never HC material.
^^^^^^^^^
You have zero credibility.
Most of the problems that occurred were on the defensive side of the ball last year. If they had a real DC and real defensive scheme the team would have made the playoffs….PERIOD!
September 16th, 2012 at 10:15 pm
Thank god for 2 long snappers!!
September 16th, 2012 at 10:16 pm
realtruraider Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:14 pm
It would be hard to put this on McClain, the defense as a whole just fell apart in the 2nd half, very similar to last years 2nd game in Buffalo which was also on the eastcoast coming off a short week. The D looked good the 1st half in both games than the wheels just fell off in the 2nd half
> McClain has talent but he’s not leading anybody. i wanna see an MLB who levels people man. i dont see it.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:16 pm
Doing good Reggie!
September 16th, 2012 at 10:17 pm
manassamauler Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:15 pm
DKnight007 Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:13 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:07 pm
Admit it and then some of you Hue haters may earn you credibility back!
==========================================
Unfortunately, we could go with what some Raider fans believe, or the people that actually run teams in the NFL. They seem to side with me. I will stay with them. They have cred.
^^^^^^^^
Stubborness and stupidity is not a good mix.
Let’s how credible you and they are after this Raider team wins 3 games and shows a terrible regression from the last two years.
It’s all about WINNING bruh!
> why didn’t HUE At least get an OC job?
^^^^^^^^
Cause head coaches were afraid he would be too good and he would go for their job.
Obvious. They didn’t want Hue to have too much power.
Hue will be an OC next year somewhere.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:17 pm
DKnight007 Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:13 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:07 pm
Admit it and then some of you Hue haters may earn you credibility back!
==========================================
Unfortunately, we could go with what some Raider fans believe, or the people that actually run teams in the NFL. They seem to side with me. I will stay with them. They have cred.
^^^^^^^^
Stubborness and stupidity is not a good mix.
Let’s how credible you and they are after this Raider team wins 3 games and shows a terrible regression from the last two years.
It’s all about WINNING bruh!
==============================================
Bruh I would completely agree with you if say Tampon Bay picked up Jackson and he put a 45 spot on the Whiner defense, and then 60 on Baltimore. I would be the lst to admit maybe we shouldn’t have bounced him. But the only reason he is even in the league is because Marvin Lewis is his friend. And as a DB coach his units have gotten TORCHED! Two weeks in a row. And I mean TORCHED.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:18 pm
I would take Hue as Raider head coach over this DA and Knapp crap any day of the week!
September 16th, 2012 at 10:18 pm
With the #2 pick the Raiders select….
September 16th, 2012 at 10:18 pm
Knapp and the Hoff need to walk the plank, AYE!!!
September 16th, 2012 at 10:19 pm
DKnight007 Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:15 pm
manassamauler Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:09 pm
manassamauler Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:07 pm
DKnight007 Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:04 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 9:59 pm
DKnight007 Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 9:51 pm
Where are the IDIOTS who wanted Hue Jackson fired again??
============================================
Why are we talking about HUE JACKSON?? Hue Jackson lost the team. Hue Jackson went played .200 ball to end the season. Hue Jackson went what, half the season without scoring any second half points? Hue Jackson didn’t get a sniff from ANY OTHER TEAM IN THE LEAGUE. And some of you a crying for Hue jackson?? You are losing your cred, man
^^^^^^^^
LOL…..Hue had us 1 game from the playoffs without DMC and with Al dying and with Campbell getting hurt mid season and despite having a crappy defensive coordinator like Chuck B.
Hue deserved another year because of all the crazy adversity he went through in his first year as head coach nonetheless.
The people who wanted Hue Jackson fired ended up being WRONG!!
Admit it and then some of you Hue haters may earn you credibility back!
>> AND HUES
>> hUES TEAM CHOKED EVERY TIME IT MATTERED. it was a horribly coached team. the losses to the lions and chargers were ridiculous. Hues Jackson deserved to b fired. he should have stayed OC. hue was never HC material.
^^^^^^^^^
You have zero credibility.
Most of the problems that occurred were on the defensive side of the ball last year. If they had a real DC and real defensive scheme the team would have made the playoffs….PERIOD!
>> my credibility is as good as anyone else’s here. HUE was HC, defense fell under his responsibility. i have watched the raiders for 25 years now. Hue had BETTER players on D last year. he had a REAL pass rusher in Wimbley and a younger seymour and kelly. Hues team choked when it mattered and thats on HUE. why didn’t hue AT least get an OC job if he was the next John Madden?
September 16th, 2012 at 10:19 pm
The ZBS doesn’t work with DMAC because he is straight ahead speed, not lateral speed.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:19 pm
Obviously getting rid of the ZBS can’t and won’t happen. But they can at least implement 5 or 6 runs that don’t utilize the ZBS. Its not that hard. And if the ZBS eventually works (as the coaches claim it will), then at least the first half of the season wasnt wasted on this crap. I dont mind the pass game too much, but it will never improve without some sort of a run game.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:21 pm
realtruraider Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:14 pm
It would be hard to put this on McClain, the defense as a whole just fell apart in the 2nd half, very similar to last years 2nd game in Buffalo which was also on the eastcoast coming off a short week. The D looked good the 1st half in both games than the wheels just fell off in the 2nd half
==========================================
I wouldn’t put it ALL on McClain certainly. But McClain really did not do a lot out there. They came right down the field and scored their lst possession. And then scorched us for almost 300 yards on the ground. The lst half the safeties were the ones making the tackles. That means the LB’s are not doing their jobs.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:21 pm
Draft tracker
round DT/NT
1 – Johnathan Hankins, Ohio St.
1 – Star Loutulelei, Utah
1-John Jenkins, DT, Georgia
2-Sylvester Williams, N.Carolina
3Everett Dawkins, DT, Florida St.
3Abry Jones, DT, Georgia
4-6William Campbell, DT, Michigan
4-6Jordan Hill, DT, Penn St.
corners
1-Terry Hawthorne, CB, Illinois
2 – David Amerson, CB, N.Carolina St.
2Xavier Rhodes, CB, Florida St.
3-Jordan Poyer, CB, Oregon St
4-6 Blidi Wreh-Wilson, CB, U.Conn
4-6 Desmond Trufant, CB, Washington
pass rush OLB/DE
1-Manti Te’o, ILB, Notre Dame
1 – Barkevious Mingo, OLB, LSU
1 – Jarvis Jones, Georgia
2 Jelani Jenkins, OLB, Florida
2-3 – CJ Mosely, OLB,
2-3 – Chase Thomas, Stanford
3-Devin Taylor, DE, S.Carolina or M.Buchanan, Illinois
4-6-Cornelius Washington, OLB, Georgia
4-6DeVonte Holloman, South Carolina
offensive line
1 – Barrett Jones, Alabama
2-3-Rick Wagner, OT, Wisconsin,
Jonathan Cooper, G, N.Carolina
4-6-Alex Hurst, OT, LSU
4-6 Seantrel Henderson, OT, Miami
4-Alvin Bailey, OG, Arkansas
5-Gabe Jackson, OG, Miss. St.
5-7James Hurst, OT, N.Carolina
RB
1-Marcus Lattimore, Southern Carolina
2 – Montee Ball, Wisconsin
2Johnathan Franklin, RB, UCLA
3-Christine Michael, RB, Tex A&M
4-6Stepfan Taylor, RB, Stanford
5-7DJ Harper, RB, Boise St.
6Ronnie Wingo, RB, Arkansas
WR
1 – Keenan Allen, WR, Cal
1 – Robert Woods, WR, Southern Cal
1-Justin Hunter, WR, Tennessee
2-Cordarrelle Patterson, WR, Tennessee
3-5-Josh Boyce, WR, TCU
3-6Aaron Mellette, WR , Elon
5-6Keenan Davis, WR, Iowa
safety – Michael Huff surely gone after this year
1 – T.J. McDonald, USC
2 – Kenny Vaccaro, Texas
2-3 Robert Lester, Alabama
3-Bacarri Rambo, FS, Gerogia
3-6D.J. Swearinger, S.Carolina
4-6Duke Williams, S, Nevada
4-6 Rontez Miles, S, Cal (PA)
6Brynden Trawick, S, Troy
7Ray-Ray Armstrong, S, Miami
FA’s coming on next post
September 16th, 2012 at 10:21 pm
RaiderDanny Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:18 pm
With the #2 pick the Raiders select….
>> a defensive leader with fire who likes to and can tackle
September 16th, 2012 at 10:21 pm
If “Bones” Fassell is available we should bring him back as ST Coordinator. He did a great job last year.
It’s just stupid to fix things that weren’t broken. DA, you screwed up and made some bad choices. You can redeem yourself by removing Knapp & firing Hoffman. Anything short of that is not acceptable. Fix it or get thrown out with the trash yourself.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:22 pm
manassamauler Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:21 pm
RaiderDanny Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:18 pm
With the #2 pick the Raiders select….
>> a defensive leader with fire who likes to and can tackle
^^^^^^^^^
OLB Jarvis Jones!
September 16th, 2012 at 10:23 pm
@raidersam
>> how about the best pass rushing OLB, i could live with that as a 1st round pick
September 16th, 2012 at 10:23 pm
Most of the problems that occurred were on the defensive side of the ball last year. If they had a real DC and real defensive scheme the team would have made the playoffs….PERIOD!
>> my credibility is as good as anyone else’s here. HUE was HC, defense fell under his responsibility.
=========================================
lst off, as I said, Hue went what 5 or 6 whole games without scoring any second half points. That is TERRIBLE. 2ndly, as this guy says, the defense is also his responsibility. When I brought that up last year, the Jackson apologists all posted that Hue is an offensive specialist. Right. That’s why he is coaching DB’s this year. And his units are still getting toasted.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:23 pm
Josh Dubow@JoshDubowAP
1 of every 15 runs for McFadden under HueJax went for 20+ yards. One of every 49 his other three seasons
—————————————————–
Can DMC get back to form without Huebert? Stay tuned as the Raiders turn.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:24 pm
SILVER & BLACK TILL I DIE!! BUT IF I WATCH ANYMORE OF THE NEW ERA I WILL CRY!!
September 16th, 2012 at 10:24 pm
JB Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:21 pm
If “Bones” Fassell is available we should bring him back as ST Coordinator. He did a great job last year.
It’s just stupid to fix things that weren’t broken. DA, you screwed up and made some bad choices. You can redeem yourself by removing Knapp & firing Hoffman. Anything short of that is not acceptable. Fix it or get thrown out with the trash yourself.
^^^^^^^^^^
Exactly. Trying to fix things that were not broken has ruined the strength of the team that past two years on offense and special teams.
McK and DA showing decisions they made were mistakes.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:25 pm
Hard to keep my kids Raider fans when were losing all the time!!
September 16th, 2012 at 10:25 pm
Seymour Bush 270
Hue is a pimp. He deserved to be clocked by an ax handle, tarred and feathered and run out of town.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:25 pm
Relax, bend over, and enjoy the ride it’s going to be a long season my fellow Raider fans.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:26 pm
Jarvis JONES!!! oh fuk yeah. if this season goes they way it looks like it will, we’ll have that leader on defense and a heisman candiate/best defensive player to boot.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:27 pm
2 games in the season and we’re talking draft picks.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:27 pm
Btw, the 48′ers handled Megatron. He mainly looked like a child playing men.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:28 pm
I wouldn’t put it ALL on McClain certainly. But McClain really did not do a lot out there. They came right down the field and scored their lst possession. And then scorched us for almost 300 yards on the ground. The lst half the safeties were the ones making the tackles. That means the LB’s are not doing their jobs.
——————————————————
After the first series the defense played pretty damn good in the 1st half, yes even the LBs, we were also getting alot of pressure on that rook QB. Than the 2nd half was horrible for every defensive player out there
September 16th, 2012 at 10:28 pm
Bigsnow81 Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:27 pm
2 games in the season and we’re talking draft picks.
====================
Any thing better to talk about it? It damn sure wasnt the game we saw in Miami.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:29 pm
Oh hey, thanks man-ass! Lol
September 16th, 2012 at 10:29 pm
RaidersOne Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:27 pm
Btw, the 48′ers handled Megatron. He mainly looked like a child playing men.
>> yeah megatron was THE FOCUS of the best defense in the NFL in their stadium and still had 8 catches for 94 yards. raiders passed on that guy.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:29 pm
I only watch one game a week… The Raider game.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:29 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:23 pm
Most of the problems that occurred were on the defensive side of the ball last year. If they had a real DC and real defensive scheme the team would have made the playoffs….PERIOD!
>> my credibility is as good as anyone else’s here. HUE was HC, defense fell under his responsibility.
=========================================
lst off, as I said, Hue went what 5 or 6 whole games without scoring any second half points. That is TERRIBLE. 2ndly, as this guy says, the defense is also his responsibility. When I brought that up last year, the Jackson apologists all posted that Hue is an offensive specialist. Right. That’s why he is coaching DB’s this year. And his units are still getting toasted.
^^^^^^^^
Your insane bro!
You forget, the we had no QB for basically 3 games (Boller sucked and Palmer had to learn on the fly) and no DMC for half of season and Ford was out most of year also, as well as Jones and Moore was nicked also.
If we had any DEFENSE last year we would have made playoffs! All this despite being heavily penalized as well and the team was still 1 stinkin game from playoffs.
Your not smart enough to see that?
Your hate for Hue is blinding you buddy.
Let it go buddy. The Hue haters who wanted him fired were WRONG….period!
September 16th, 2012 at 10:29 pm
Tarver is the best & only thing DA has done for this team so far. DA needs to know that you don’t have to stick with a bad decision. Making changes that are necessary is a head coach thing to do. Show us you’ve got the stones to get this ship righted.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:30 pm
RaiderDanny Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:29 pm
Oh hey, thanks man-ass! Lol
>> you wanna see a pic of my ass dude?
September 16th, 2012 at 10:30 pm
Calvin Johnson was a physical freak like Al loved to.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:30 pm
RaiderDanny Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:18 pm
With the #2 pick the Raiders select….
>> a defensive leader with fire who likes to and can tackle
========
Yeah, Jarvis Jones…and I forgot to add Barkevious Mingo. In fact, i wonder if Tyrann Mathieu is eligible for the draft after his rehab stint – he’d be able to cover Brian Hartline, i’m sure, and he can return kicks.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:31 pm
Keep your picture’s to yourself dude.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:31 pm
RaidersOne Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:25 pm
Seymour Bush 270
Hue is a pimp. He deserved to be clocked by an ax handle, tarred and feathered and run out of town.
^^^^^^^
Hue made this team competitive. He deserved one more year.
Mistake not to give it to him and now the team SUCKS….AGAIN!
September 16th, 2012 at 10:31 pm
bigsnow81 Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:30 pm
Calvin Johnson was a physical freak like Al loved to.
>> worst AD pick that year. CJ is Randy moss with balls
September 16th, 2012 at 10:31 pm
Lol, na im cool!! Just caught the name! Lol
September 16th, 2012 at 10:31 pm
If DA thinks it’s tough playing on the road,
wait until next week when he’s getting booed at home by not only the Steeler fans,
But all the disgruntled Raider fans that are pizzed at the product he’s producing.
He’s going to learn quickly how impatient this fan base is…
September 16th, 2012 at 10:32 pm
Manassamauler Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:29 pm
RaidersOne Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:27 pm
Btw, the 48′ers handled Megatron. He mainly looked like a child playing men.
>> yeah megatron was THE FOCUS of the best defense in the NFL in their stadium and still had 8 catches for 94 yards. raiders passed on that guy.
=========
They sure did, didnt they? I remember Kiffin wanted him, and to sign Jeff Garcia, then take Trent Edwards later…. oh well.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:32 pm
You don’t draft defense #2.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:32 pm
DKnight007 Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:31 pm
RaidersOne Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:25 pm
Seymour Bush 270
Hue is a pimp. He deserved to be clocked by an ax handle, tarred and feathered and run out of town.
^^^^^^^
Hue made this team competitive. He deserved one more year.
Mistake not to give it to him and now the team SUCKS….AGAIN!
>> cable was better than Hue.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:33 pm
bigsnow81 Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:32 pm
You don’t draft defense #2.
>> hmmm i think the Raiders should make an exception.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:33 pm
How do you know what Kiffin wanted?
September 16th, 2012 at 10:33 pm
RaiderDanny Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:24 pm
SILVER & BLACK TILL I DIE!! BUT IF I WATCH ANYMORE OF THE NEW ERA I WILL CRY!!
========
LOL!!
sad, but true.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:33 pm
manassamauler,
we passed on Megatron ? figures. he may have had 10 catches but DMAC had 12 during the opener…..for all the good it did us.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:33 pm
Bigsnow81 Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:33 pm
How do you know what Kiffin wanted?
===========
He sure as hell DIDNT want JaMarcus Russell.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:34 pm
I know I wanted Calvin Johnson drafted. 6′4″ 235 lbs. and runs a 4.34 forty.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:34 pm
bigsnow81 Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:33 pm
How do you know what Kiffin wanted?
>> this was leaked years ago. AND kiffin actually had common sense, was just into himself and used AD as a stepping stone to where he is now. Kiffin was a smart motherfuka
September 16th, 2012 at 10:35 pm
RaiderSam Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:33 pm
Bigsnow81 Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:33 pm
How do you know what Kiffin wanted?
===========
He sure as hell DIDNT want JaMarcus Russell.
==========
AND passed on Adrian Peterson – lest we forget
September 16th, 2012 at 10:35 pm
Big black and slower than eva… JaMarcus Russell.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:35 pm
bigsnow81 Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:34 pm
I know I wanted Calvin Johnson drafted. 6′4″ 235 lbs. and runs a 4.34 forty.
>> with great hand and HEART. Megatron can be GOAT, but hey we drafted the 300 pound purple drankster
September 16th, 2012 at 10:36 pm
Manassamauler Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:34 pm
bigsnow81 Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:33 pm
How do you know what Kiffin wanted?
>> this was leaked years ago. AND kiffin actually had common sense, was just into himself and used AD as a stepping stone to where he is now. Kiffin was a smart motherfuka
========
^^
What he said.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:36 pm
That was a great draft… Except for my team.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:36 pm
Whats up with Criner?
September 16th, 2012 at 10:37 pm
RaiderSam Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:35 pm
RaiderSam Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:33 pm
Bigsnow81 Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:33 pm
How do you know what Kiffin wanted?
===========
He sure as hell DIDNT want JaMarcus Russell.
==========
AND passed on Adrian Peterson – lest we forget
>> yep him too. but CJ was projected 1 or 2. crazy to pass on that talent. worst pick in raider history that i remember
September 16th, 2012 at 10:37 pm
cable was better than Hue
================================
Much better.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:38 pm
manassamauler Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:32 pm
DKnight007 Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:31 pm
RaidersOne Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:25 pm
Seymour Bush 270
Hue is a pimp. He deserved to be clocked by an ax handle, tarred and feathered and run out of town.
^^^^^^^
Hue made this team competitive. He deserved one more year.
Mistake not to give it to him and now the team SUCKS….AGAIN!
>> cable was better than Hue.
^^^^^^^^
Mistake to let him go also. It would have been best to keep Cable as HC and Hue as his OC.
Al blew it there also.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:38 pm
This sucks, ruined my day. Reggie Bush only looks explosive versus the Raiders.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:38 pm
RaiderDanny Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:36 pm
Whats up with Criner?
=========================================
Not practicing. You don’t practice, you don’t play under this regime. Can’t argue with that I guess.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:38 pm
Met Bergstrom at Raider Image those are my twin boys on Raiders.com with him! Not really a big dude! Gotta fill out some more!
September 16th, 2012 at 10:40 pm
We’re all gonna die!
September 16th, 2012 at 10:40 pm
#2 you draft a QB, a great WR or a great RB. Maybe a stud DE also.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:41 pm
DKnight007 Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:38 pm
manassamauler Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:32 pm
DKnight007 Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:31 pm
RaidersOne Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:25 pm
Seymour Bush 270
Hue is a pimp. He deserved to be clocked by an ax handle, tarred and feathered and run out of town.
^^^^^^^
Hue made this team competitive. He deserved one more year.
Mistake not to give it to him and now the team SUCKS….AGAIN!
>> cable was better than Hue.
^^^^^^^^
Mistake to let him go also. It would have been best to keep Cable as HC and Hue as his OC.
Al blew it there also.
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You can always second guess a deadman – what to do now?
Will Allen lose this locker room?
September 16th, 2012 at 10:42 pm
So we would of drafted Johnson and had Garcia throwing to him for a year and than Edwards? Doesn’t excite me to much really, the Lions did go 0-16 with him and actually thats the man reason they are good now because they ended up drafting a QB with there 1st pick. Don’t get me wrong I would of loved to draft Johnson or for that matter anybody over Russel, but the QB situation had to be addressed so we did what most teams do with the 1st pick and drafted the best one.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:43 pm
RaidersOne Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:33 pm
manassamauler,
we passed on Megatron ? figures. he may have had 10 catches but DMAC had 12 during the opener…..for all the good it did us.
>. come one man is that a serious response? did you see what Cj did to us last year? had over 200 yards and beat us practically by himself. when we say McClain can’t cover the pass, we point to a megatron catch to illustrate that fact. megatron is a game changer and is 6 4″ and very fast and can catch a 60 yard pass in triple coverage with 2 broken arms. will be GOAT by the time hes done.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:43 pm
The season is over before it even began.
Sad!
This team was so close the last two years, and not it is all screwed up again and gone to waste.
What a joke!
I’m calling it now….Stanford head coach David Shaw will be next Raiders Head Coach in two more years after there is zero improvement after 3 years with Allen!
September 16th, 2012 at 10:44 pm
Bring back Art Shell! J/k getting tired
September 16th, 2012 at 10:45 pm
DKnight007 Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:40 pm
#2 you draft a QB, a great WR or a great RB. Maybe a stud DE also.
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Only ranked QB in top 10 – is Barkley, then Arkansas’ Wilson, and Gino Smith WAY down in 25.
Supposedly this is a DT and Pass rush and corner heavy draft – but a LOT of juniors are filling out this draft, so were talking raw prospects.
I say get as much as you can. Fire sale by midseason and start looking beyond Knapp. I m not saying deal McFadden, though. They have to know better at this stage…but McFadden might just check out on this regime altogether.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:45 pm
Are we sure that the Broncos didn’t just dump our head coach on us?
September 16th, 2012 at 10:45 pm
Fkin hindsight, your goin to beat your head against the wall as would many GMs if you look back at drafts and think about what could of ben
September 16th, 2012 at 10:45 pm
realtruraider Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:42 pm
So we would of drafted Johnson and had Garcia throwing to him for a year and than Edwards? Doesn’t excite me to much really, the Lions did go 0-16 with him and actually thats the man reason they are good now because they ended up drafting a QB with there 1st pick. Don’t get me wrong I would of loved to draft Johnson or for that matter anybody over Russel, but the QB situation had to be addressed so we did what most teams do with the 1st pick and drafted the best one.
>> why draft a Qb with weight problems who had no work ethic? these were not secrets. AD was hard headed and wouldn’t listen to reason. besides russell spent his college career throwing jump balls to Bowe. stupid pick, kiffin knew it, most people did.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:46 pm
RaiderSam Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:41 pm
DKnight007 Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:38 pm
manassamauler Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:32 pm
DKnight007 Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:31 pm
RaidersOne Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:25 pm
Seymour Bush 270
Hue is a pimp. He deserved to be clocked by an ax handle, tarred and feathered and run out of town.
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Hue made this team competitive. He deserved one more year.
Mistake not to give it to him and now the team SUCKS….AGAIN!
>> cable was better than Hue.
^^^^^^^^
Mistake to let him go also. It would have been best to keep Cable as HC and Hue as his OC.
Al blew it there also.
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You can always second guess a deadman – what to do now?
Will Allen lose this locker room?
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Allen is too young. DA and especially Knapp will lose the locker room when the losses keep mounting (that is what happens when teams lose games) and most of high priced vets like Seymour and Huff are gone after this year anyway.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:46 pm
DKnight007 Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:43 pm
The season is over before it even began.
Sad!
This team was so close the last two years, and not it is all screwed up again and gone to waste.
What a joke!
I’m calling it now….Stanford head coach David Shaw will be next Raiders Head Coach in two more years after there is zero improvement after 3 years with Allen!
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Bring back Gruden or someone established – you already have seen what Jeff Fisher has been able to do, once they can protect the QB and believe in the system
September 16th, 2012 at 10:46 pm
David Shaw/ Willie Shaw love them both! But aint gonna get Palmer past 5yds??
September 16th, 2012 at 10:46 pm
http://www.freepriesttjnow.org
September 16th, 2012 at 10:47 pm
RaidersOne Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:25 pm
Seymour Bush 270
Hue is a pimp. He deserved to be clocked by an ax handle, tarred and feathered and run out of town.
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Hue made this team competitive. He deserved one more year.
Mistake not to give it to him and now the team SUCKS….AGAIN!
>> cable was better than Hue.
^^^^^^^^
Mistake to let him go also. It would have been best to keep Cable as HC and Hue as his OC.
Al blew it there also.
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You can always second guess a deadman – what to do now?
Will Allen lose this locker room?
^^^^^^^
Allen is too young. DA and especially Knapp will lose the locker room when the losses keep mounting (that is what happens when teams lose games) and most of high priced vets like Seymour and Huff are gone after this year anyway.
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Agreed. McFadden, too? Trade value would be very high, but I just think theres so much potential there.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:47 pm
if OAK gets embarrassed by the Steelers i could see Pryor being thrown in more. If we’re 0-3 i can’t see any reason to not start him.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:48 pm
http://www.bringhueback.org/andthepimphandcable/andmakesaunderstheOC
September 16th, 2012 at 10:48 pm
RaiderSam Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:47 pm
RaidersOne Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:25 pm
Seymour Bush 270
Hue is a pimp. He deserved to be clocked by an ax handle, tarred and feathered and run out of town.
^^^^^^^
Hue made this team competitive. He deserved one more year.
Mistake not to give it to him and now the team SUCKS….AGAIN!
>> cable was better than Hue.
^^^^^^^^
Mistake to let him go also. It would have been best to keep Cable as HC and Hue as his OC.
Al blew it there also.
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You can always second guess a deadman – what to do now?
Will Allen lose this locker room?
^^^^^^^
Allen is too young. DA and especially Knapp will lose the locker room when the losses keep mounting (that is what happens when teams lose games) and most of high priced vets like Seymour and Huff are gone after this year anyway.
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Agreed. McFadden, too? Trade value would be very high, but I just think theres so much potential there.
>> Mcfadden gets that 2nd round pick back that HUE pissed down the Drain on Palmer
September 16th, 2012 at 10:48 pm
If McK wanted to fire Hue, then he should have hired a vet Bay Area guy like Del Rio as head coach, since he commands the locker room and was a Raider fan growing up and he probably would have kept Saunders as his OC.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:49 pm
we are still adjusting to the system on both sides for the most part ..but I think our main priority for this week should be to find a# 2 CB , and find a way to get McFadden going … I think if our receivers stay healthy , our passing O should be fine …Even thOugh our Run D was disastrous today I’m still not concerne about it as much as I’m concerned about our pass rush and pass D … Our penalties are down … Save for a few special teams blunders ..we did good job for the most part in that phase …. Just find a way to get McFadden going then this O will have night and day Difference
September 16th, 2012 at 10:49 pm
manassamauler Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:48 pm
RaiderSam Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:47 pm
RaidersOne Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:25 pm
Seymour Bush 270
Hue is a pimp. He deserved to be clocked by an ax handle, tarred and feathered and run out of town.
^^^^^^^
Hue made this team competitive. He deserved one more year.
Mistake not to give it to him and now the team SUCKS….AGAIN!
>> cable was better than Hue.
^^^^^^^^
Mistake to let him go also. It would have been best to keep Cable as HC and Hue as his OC.
Al blew it there also.
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You can always second guess a deadman – what to do now?
Will Allen lose this locker room?
^^^^^^^
Allen is too young. DA and especially Knapp will lose the locker room when the losses keep mounting (that is what happens when teams lose games) and most of high priced vets like Seymour and Huff are gone after this year anyway.
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Agreed. McFadden, too? Trade value would be very high, but I just think theres so much potential there.
>> Mcfadden gets that 2nd round pick back that HUE pissed down the Drain on Palmer
^^^^^^^^
Like that 2nd rounder would be star huh?? haha
September 16th, 2012 at 10:49 pm
It’s Raiders deja vu in Miami
http://www.hell_its_dejavu_for_the_2012_season.org
September 16th, 2012 at 10:50 pm
Qodrn1 Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:45 pm
Are we sure that the Broncos didn’t just dump our head coach on us?
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Wolf and Madden signed of McKenzie
McKenzie was given latitude by Davis to pick his coach and staff
McKenzie picked Allen (Allen had the backing and rep of a lot throughout the league) – I think only Pete Charmichael Jr. and one other guy interviewed… Winston Moss? Darren Perry? Im not sure.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:50 pm
“the greatest trade in history” come on mannnnnnnnnnnn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 16th, 2012 at 10:50 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:49 pm
we are still adjusting to the system on both sides for the most part ..but I think our main priority for this week should be to find a# 2 CB , and find a way to get McFadden going … I think if our receivers stay healthy , our passing O should be fine …Even thOugh our Run D was disastrous today I’m still not concerne about it as much as I’m concerned about our pass rush and pass D … Our penalties are down … Save for a few special teams blunders ..we did good job for the most part in that phase …. Just find a way to get McFadden going then this O will have night and day Difference
^^^^^^^^^
A new “system” that should have NEVER been implemented in the first place….especially on offense and special teams.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:50 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:37 pm
cable was better than Hue
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Much better.
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Better at what? sure the heck wasn’t coaching. Maybe better at beating his girl and picking out hookers though. The damn O-line sucked with him here and that was his specialty, Wiley and Wiz fixed his mess really quick.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:50 pm
Its so early in the season, and we suck so bad! Something exciting gonna happen this season! Dont know what but thats how i see it!
September 16th, 2012 at 10:50 pm
September 16th, 2012 at 10:47 pm
RaidersOne Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:25 pm
Seymour Bush 270
Hue is a pimp. He deserved to be clocked by an ax handle, tarred and feathered and run out of town.
^^^^^^^
Hue made this team competitive. He deserved one more year.
Mistake not to give it to him and now the team SUCKS….AGAIN!
>> cable was better than Hue.
^^^^^^^^
Mistake to let him go also. It would have been best to keep Cable as HC and Hue as his OC.
Al blew it there also.
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You can always second guess a deadman – what to do now?
Will Allen lose this locker room?
^^^^^^^
Allen is too young. DA and especially Knapp will lose the locker room when the losses keep mounting (that is what happens when teams lose games) and most of high priced vets like Seymour and Huff are gone after this year anyway.
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Agreed. McFadden, too? Trade value would be very high, but I just think theres so much potential there.
>> Mcfadden gets that 2nd round pick back that HUE pissed down the Drain on Palmer
^^^^^^^^
Like that 2nd rounder would be star huh?? haha
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Marques Colston was a 7th
Courtland Finnegan was a 7th
and TE Jimmy Graham was a 4th
all depends on who the pick is
September 16th, 2012 at 10:52 pm
I pegged this as a losing season. penalties have gone down already. ALLEN will be a good HC, hes blue collar and isn’t a megaphone
September 16th, 2012 at 10:52 pm
manassamauler Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:50 pm
“the greatest trade in history” come on mannnnnnnnnnnn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
^^^^^^^^
Too bad he wasn’t around to see how good his trade would have worked out.
Another blunder by McK.
Should have given Hue a whole full year to work with Palmer.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:52 pm
What Hue understood was how to maximize the talent he had with that offense.
He was full of a lot of hot air, but he turned us around from one of the worst offenses in the league to innovative, exciting and keeping us in games when our Defense was HORRIBLE.
IF we had kept him and gave a good DC then we wouldn’t be 2-0.
Fine.
But, I’m all about Knapp needing to change his think and get this offense to SCORE.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:52 pm
DKnight007 Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:50 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:49 pm
we are still adjusting to the system on both sides for the most part ..but I think our main priority for this week should be to find a# 2 CB , and find a way to get McFadden going … I think if our receivers stay healthy , our passing O should be fine …Even thOugh our Run D was disastrous today I’m still not concerne about it as much as I’m concerned about our pass rush and pass D … Our penalties are down … Save for a few special teams blunders ..we did good job for the most part in that phase …. Just find a way to get McFadden going then this O will have night and day Difference
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A new “system” that should have NEVER been implemented in the first place….especially on offense and special teams.
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If the “system” doesnt work, the coach re-preaches it, and the players arent buying in. If its this early into the season – the twitter chat will start, and Allen is done.
On the other hand, if his guys rally around him, and he has that special make up that gets guys to fight for him, thats another thing altogether….
September 16th, 2012 at 10:52 pm
RaiderDanny Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:50 pm
Its so early in the season, and we suck so bad! Something exciting gonna happen this season! Dont know what but thats how i see it!
>> Terrell Pryor is gonna happen. i just know it.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:52 pm
Gruden would love to have Palmer
September 16th, 2012 at 10:53 pm
Josh Dubow @JoshDubowAP
1 of every 15 runs for McFadden under HueJax went for 20+ yards. One of every 49 his other three seasons.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:53 pm
manassamauler Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:52 pm
I pegged this as a losing season. penalties have gone down already. ALLEN will be a good HC, hes blue collar and isn’t a megaphone
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Whatever.
I would rather win games making 8-10 penalties a game ahead of losing and making 5 penalties a game.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:53 pm
RaiderDanny Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:52 pm
Gruden would love to have Palmer
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He could work with Palmer, but could the ego clash with McKenzie, would they have enough money? etc. etc.
Pryor could be a spark, though.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:53 pm
raiderzmaverick Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:52 pm
What Hue understood was how to maximize the talent he had with that offense.
He was full of a lot of hot air, but he turned us around from one of the worst offenses in the league to innovative, exciting and keeping us in games when our Defense was HORRIBLE.
IF we had kept him and gave a good DC then we wouldn’t be 2-0.
Fine.
But, I’m all about Knapp needing to change his think and get this offense to SCORE.
> wasn’t it tom cable who turned around the OLINE and running game first? seems like cable deserves as much credit
September 16th, 2012 at 10:54 pm
Pryor is NOT going to happen. Knapp and DA are way too conservative to try something dramatic like that.
Plus, it ain’t the passing offense that’s not moving. It’s the player people called the #1 in the NFL if healthy that’s NOT comfortable in this scheme obviously.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:54 pm
raiderzmaverick Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:53 pm
Josh Dubow @JoshDubowAP
1 of every 15 runs for McFadden under HueJax went for 20+ yards. One of every 49 his other three seasons.
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Yuuuuuup!
September 16th, 2012 at 10:54 pm
Thats what i think, Pryor gonna take off!
September 16th, 2012 at 10:54 pm
manassamauler Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:53 pm
raiderzmaverick Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:52 pm
What Hue understood was how to maximize the talent he had with that offense.
He was full of a lot of hot air, but he turned us around from one of the worst offenses in the league to innovative, exciting and keeping us in games when our Defense was HORRIBLE.
IF we had kept him and gave a good DC then we wouldn’t be 2-0.
Fine.
But, I’m all about Knapp needing to change his think and get this offense to SCORE.
> wasn’t it tom cable who turned around the OLINE and running game first? seems like cable deserves as much credit
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Nah, look when McFadden really did well. It’s the 2 years the Hue was there, and when he took over OC, the zone scheme went out the door.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:54 pm
DKnight007 Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:53 pm
manassamauler Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:52 pm
I pegged this as a losing season. penalties have gone down already. ALLEN will be a good HC, hes blue collar and isn’t a megaphone
^^^^^^^^^^
Whatever.
I would rather win games making 8-10 penalties a game ahead of losing and making 5 penalties a game.
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Its primed to be an offense to compliment a dominant defense, not a defense that is still developing – you have to score points and not turn the ball over – we arent doing either.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:55 pm
if OAK falls to 0-3 a start Terrell Pryor petition needs to start. young talented and hungry man.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:55 pm
manassamauler Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:53 pm
raiderzmaverick Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:52 pm
What Hue understood was how to maximize the talent he had with that offense.
He was full of a lot of hot air, but he turned us around from one of the worst offenses in the league to innovative, exciting and keeping us in games when our Defense was HORRIBLE.
IF we had kept him and gave a good DC then we wouldn’t be 2-0.
Fine.
But, I’m all about Knapp needing to change his think and get this offense to SCORE.
> wasn’t it tom cable who turned around the OLINE and running game first? seems like cable deserves as much credit
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Nope. When Hue was hired as OC, he changed the blocking system and moved away from running zone all the time.
Cable was allowed to work more with the OLinemen on technique also.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:56 pm
Manassamauler Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:53 pm
raiderzmaverick Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:52 pm
What Hue understood was how to maximize the talent he had with that offense.
He was full of a lot of hot air, but he turned us around from one of the worst offenses in the league to innovative, exciting and keeping us in games when our Defense was HORRIBLE.
IF we had kept him and gave a good DC then we wouldn’t be 2-0.
Fine.
But, I’m all about Knapp needing to change his think and get this offense to SCORE.
> wasn’t it tom cable who turned around the OLINE and running game first? seems like cable deserves as much credit
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Shouldve kept Cable AND Jackson, done.
but…water under the bridge now.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:56 pm
Next point of evidence:
in 2 years with HueJax calling plays for #Raiders, McFadden had 5.3 ypc; with anyone else it’s 3.7.
Those other years were ZBS. He’s NOT comfortable in this scheme. Neither are our best weapons at QB or WR.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:57 pm
raiderzmaverick Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:54 pm
manassamauler Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:53 pm
raiderzmaverick Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:52 pm
What Hue understood was how to maximize the talent he had with that offense.
He was full of a lot of hot air, but he turned us around from one of the worst offenses in the league to innovative, exciting and keeping us in games when our Defense was HORRIBLE.
IF we had kept him and gave a good DC then we wouldn’t be 2-0.
Fine.
But, I’m all about Knapp needing to change his think and get this offense to SCORE.
> wasn’t it tom cable who turned around the OLINE and running game first? seems like cable deserves as much credit
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Nah, look when McFadden really did well. It’s the 2 years the Hue was there, and when he took over OC, the zone scheme went out the door
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Exactly!
Hue knew how to maximize the talent on offense.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:57 pm
either way, HUE had talent as OC but was a complete failure as HC. thats all i can say about that.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:57 pm
The Autumn Wind is Raider, Pilaging for fun, he knock you down and upside down and laugh when he’s conquered and WON!!
September 16th, 2012 at 10:57 pm
RaiderSam Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:56 pm
Manassamauler Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:53 pm
raiderzmaverick Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:52 pm
What Hue understood was how to maximize the talent he had with that offense.
He was full of a lot of hot air, but he turned us around from one of the worst offenses in the league to innovative, exciting and keeping us in games when our Defense was HORRIBLE.
IF we had kept him and gave a good DC then we wouldn’t be 2-0.
Fine.
But, I’m all about Knapp needing to change his think and get this offense to SCORE.
> wasn’t it tom cable who turned around the OLINE and running game first? seems like cable deserves as much credit
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Shouldve kept Cable AND Jackson, done.
but…water under the bridge now.
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I was fighting for Cable at the time too, but looking at it, it was Jackson who turned things around. His 2 years here we went from doghouse to 8-8 with the worst DC in the league.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:57 pm
A new “system” that should have NEVER been implemented in the first place….especially on offense and special teams.
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http://www.its_a_damn_mystery_why_he_did_that_and_its_bs.org
September 16th, 2012 at 10:57 pm
raiderzmaverick Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:56 pm
Next point of evidence:
in 2 years with HueJax calling plays for #Raiders, McFadden had 5.3 ypc; with anyone else it’s 3.7.
Those other years were ZBS. He’s NOT comfortable in this scheme. Neither are our best weapons at QB or WR.
>> so Hue should have been OC, i concur
September 16th, 2012 at 10:58 pm
Manassamauler Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:55 pm
if OAK falls to 0-3 a start Terrell Pryor petition needs to start. young talented and hungry man.
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Thats almost conceding the season. He’ll be flashing on some plays…running backwards and throwin picks on others.
If its a Tebow-Time thing…well, we’ll see. Its something they havent had here in a LONG time, an electrifying player at QB that could light it up – IF you have an imaginative OC.
Knapp? Imaginative? fugghetitabout it!!!
September 16th, 2012 at 10:58 pm
manassamauler Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:57 pm
either way, HUE had talent as OC but was a complete failure as HC. thats all i can say about that.
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8-8 with no input into the defense at all isn’t a failure. It’s amazing he made it to that point honestly. Look at what the other 4 HCs did before him.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:58 pm
We are on our way back … Chill ladies ..we’re getting better day by day …you guys want to jump off the ship already then go ahead but I’m really confident our team is going to be back on top before it’s all said and done .. Some teams just don’t start that fast … 0-2 is nothin .. We can pull out of it
September 16th, 2012 at 10:58 pm
Knapp is an idiot of course.
Why isn’t he putting Pryor in at shotgun in red zone packages and having run like what Caroline and Wash is doing with Cam and RG3??
Idiot Knapp!!
September 16th, 2012 at 10:58 pm
want to see Terrell Pryor go into Denver and torch that defense.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:59 pm
And Allen is an idiot for not telling Knapp to use Pryors’ legs as a weapon!
September 16th, 2012 at 10:59 pm
realtruraider Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:50 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:37 pm
cable was better than Hue
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Much better.
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Better at what? sure the heck wasn’t coaching.
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Cable took over a franchise in complete utter disarray. He won five games his lst year, 8 his second including being undefeated in the division. Jackson took over that franchise with a lot of momentum and lost four of his last five. A coinflip in KC saved him from losing 5 of his last 5. Jackson couldn’t coach his ass out of a paper bag. Let’s be honest.
September 16th, 2012 at 10:59 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:58 pm
We are on our way back … Chill ladies ..we’re getting better day by day …you guys want to jump off the ship already then go ahead but I’m really confident our team is going to be back on top before it’s all said and done .. Some teams just don’t start that fast … 0-2 is nothin .. We can pull out of it
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LOL!!
September 16th, 2012 at 11:00 pm
cfadden20. Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:58 pm
We are on our way back … Chill ladies ..we’re getting better day by day …you guys want to jump off the ship already then go ahead but I’m really confident our team is going to be back on top before it’s all said and done .. Some teams just don’t start that fast … 0-2 is nothin .. We can pull out of it
>> um no, 0-2 teams almost never pull out of it(make the playoffs) and this team is lacking talent, to put it nicely.
September 16th, 2012 at 11:00 pm
Raiderzmaverick Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:57 pm
RaiderSam Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:56 pm
Manassamauler Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:53 pm
raiderzmaverick Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:52 pm
What Hue understood was how to maximize the talent he had with that offense.
He was full of a lot of hot air, but he turned us around from one of the worst offenses in the league to innovative, exciting and keeping us in games when our Defense was HORRIBLE.
IF we had kept him and gave a good DC then we wouldn’t be 2-0.
Fine.
But, I’m all about Knapp needing to change his think and get this offense to SCORE.
> wasn’t it tom cable who turned around the OLINE and running game first? seems like cable deserves as much credit
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Shouldve kept Cable AND Jackson, done.
but…water under the bridge now.
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I was fighting for Cable at the time too, but looking at it, it was Jackson who turned things around. His 2 years here we went from doghouse to 8-8 with the worst DC in the league.
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Top 10 offense, and it appeared San Diego was no longer a problem..then that FINAL game. – I mean it was win and IN.
Did that team QUIT on Hue is the question or was the DC ineffective? Did the players mail it in after a gutsy win on the road in KC?
Have to get a coach that inspires more mental toughness and pride the way Singletary-Harbaugh did in the transition that coaching staff made…
September 16th, 2012 at 11:00 pm
Thoughts on Branch?
I personally don’t care for him!
September 16th, 2012 at 11:01 pm
http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders/ci_21553801/monte-poole-struggling-offense-not-sitting-well-raider
…and this was BEFORE the Miami game…what’s ya think now?
September 16th, 2012 at 11:01 pm
> wasn’t it tom cable who turned around the OLINE and running game first? seems like cable deserves as much credit
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NO and the OLINE sucked when Cable was here, yes even in 2010
September 16th, 2012 at 11:01 pm
DKnight007 Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:58 pm
Knapp is an idiot of course.
Why isn’t he putting Pryor in at shotgun in red zone packages and having run like what Caroline and Wash is doing with Cam and RG3??
Idiot Knapp!!
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This is a passing league. You would just put 11 guys up and make Pryor beat your with his arm, which does not seem to be a possibility at this point. Why subject Pryor to that kind of beating?
September 16th, 2012 at 11:01 pm
CutStryker Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 11:00 pm
Thoughts on Branch?
I personally don’t care for him!
>> Branch is that great player that we never actually see make any game changing plays!! the Ed Reed without the INTS or fumbles. but TB is an “effort” guy.
September 16th, 2012 at 11:02 pm
Manassamauler Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 11:00 pm
cfadden20. Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:58 pm
We are on our way back … Chill ladies ..we’re getting better day by day …you guys want to jump off the ship already then go ahead but I’m really confident our team is going to be back on top before it’s all said and done .. Some teams just don’t start that fast … 0-2 is nothin .. We can pull out of it
>> um no, 0-2 teams almost never pull out of it(make the playoffs) and this team is lacking talent, to put it nicely.
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The “talent” missed was – Wimbley , Routt (toasted in KC regularly), Satele (injured at times), J.Campbell (injured for season), Michael Bush (great in some games, non-factor in others)
Were they talented to begin with or overachieving sometimes and underachieving other times?
September 16th, 2012 at 11:02 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:59 pm
realtruraider Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:50 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:37 pm
cable was better than Hue
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Much better.
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Better at what? sure the heck wasn’t coaching.
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Cable took over a franchise in complete utter disarray. He won five games his lst year, 8 his second including being undefeated in the division. Jackson took over that franchise with a lot of momentum and lost four of his last five. A coinflip in KC saved him from losing 5 of his last 5. Jackson couldn’t coach his ass out of a paper bag. Let’s be honest.
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You also forget Hue lost his starting QB in Campbell and best offensive weapon in DMC of for half the season and Moore was out, as well as Ford and Jones and he had a crappy Chuck B as his DC and his owner/GM old man Al died on him.
Plenty of adversity to overcome as a first year head coach huh and he still had the team 1 game away from playoffs.
You hate Hue with a passion and that has clouded your judgment.
Firing Hue was mistake and you and others were wrong!
LOL!
September 16th, 2012 at 11:03 pm
Cable took over a franchise in complete utter disarray. He won five games his lst year, 8 his second including being undefeated in the division. Jackson took over that franchise with a lot of momentum and lost four of his last five. A coinflip in KC saved him from losing 5 of his last 5. Jackson couldn’t coach his ass out of a paper bag. Let’s be honest
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Oh please, lets really be honest, Cable would of never came close to an 8-8 season without Hue, thats a fact
September 16th, 2012 at 11:03 pm
Criner got 122yds from 2 TP passes
September 16th, 2012 at 11:03 pm
Manassamauler Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 11:01 pm
CutStryker Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 11:00 pm
Thoughts on Branch?
I personally don’t care for him!
>> Branch is that great player that we never actually see make any game changing plays!! the Ed Reed without the INTS or fumbles. but TB is an “effort” guy.
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exactly – some good plays, but like Michael Huff was still able to get a contract extension, because there was nobody else better on the roster and nobody wanted to pony up for Bernard Pollard a couple of years ago or LaRon Landry this year
September 16th, 2012 at 11:04 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 11:01 pm
DKnight007 Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:58 pm
Knapp is an idiot of course.
Why isn’t he putting Pryor in at shotgun in red zone packages and having run like what Caroline and Wash is doing with Cam and RG3??
Idiot Knapp!!
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This is a passing league. You would just put 11 guys up and make Pryor beat your with his arm, which does not seem to be a possibility at this point. Why subject Pryor to that kind of beating?
>> somebody has to get beat. Palmer is getting clocked on every pass. we need to see if Pryor has anything. a QB that can run changes things. if the Raiders fall to 0-3 Pryor should get some looks, and after we’re 0-5 he should start.
September 16th, 2012 at 11:04 pm
Branch lost outside contain on that Bush run to the outside for a TD!
Only Bush would show he can break tackles on a Raider defense but no other D in the league.
Sad!
September 16th, 2012 at 11:04 pm
People be patient. 0-2 does not make a season. Despite no evidence that this system will work, lets reserve judgement til the season is over. It might take years and still won’t work, but hey, hear me out. 0-2 does not make a season. We look awful, clueless and disarrayed, but again, 0-2 does not make a season. If we go 0-16, maybe 1-15, heck, there is always next year. Everyone wants to eat their cake, but the NFL is tough. Very competetive. Somebody has to lose. But like I say, 0-2 is not a season. We have Pittsburgh next week, and then Denver. And then we get the bye. Now that is going to be fun. So hang tight people, 0-2 does not make a season. Later.
September 16th, 2012 at 11:04 pm
You also forget Hue lost his starting QB in Campbell
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You forget that Cable’s Q was Jamarcus. His backup was Gradkowski. His RB was Fargas, and his left tackle was mario Henderson. Just imagine what Cable could have done with Dmac and Campbell. And Carson.
September 16th, 2012 at 11:05 pm
DKnight007 Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:50 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:49 pm
we are still adjusting to the system on both sides for the most part ..but I think our main priority for this week should be to find a# 2 CB , and find a way to get McFadden going … I think if our receivers stay healthy , our passing O should be fine …Even thOugh our Run D was disastrous today I’m still not concerne about it as much as I’m concerned about our pass rush and pass D … Our penalties are down … Save for a few special teams blunders ..we did good job for the most part in that phase …. Just find a way to get McFadden going then this O will have night and day Difference
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A new “system” that should have NEVER been implemented in the first place….especially on offense and special teams.
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Early returns aren’t really looking good but I think we would get better on O with each passing day.. Its not piece of cake every time you switch to a new system … Besides McFadden not getting going early there are still some positives to take out of this O ..Palmers turnovers are down but he need to do a better job …he missed some wide open targets … Didn’t make good choices a few other times …But we should get better as the season goes on and our blocking would get better too
September 16th, 2012 at 11:05 pm
realtruraider Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 11:03 pm
Cable took over a franchise in complete utter disarray. He won five games his lst year, 8 his second including being undefeated in the division. Jackson took over that franchise with a lot of momentum and lost four of his last five. A coinflip in KC saved him from losing 5 of his last 5. Jackson couldn’t coach his ass out of a paper bag. Let’s be honest
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Oh please, lets really be honest, Cable would of never came close to an 8-8 season without Hue, thats a fact
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Exactly. Hue haters are dumb!
September 16th, 2012 at 11:05 pm
Alright FAMILY good night from the Westside!
September 16th, 2012 at 11:06 pm
Good analogy on Branch….I think!
I look at it this way…he’s not a baller!!!
September 16th, 2012 at 11:06 pm
0-2 teams make the playoffs 12% of time.
September 16th, 2012 at 11:06 pm
I would of liked to keep pimp slap as HC and Huebris as OC and Al Davis as as GMand any defensive warrior th
September 16th, 2012 at 11:06 pm
RaiderDanny Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 11:05 pm
Alright FAMILY good night from the Westside!
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Good Night.
1 NATION (under duress)
September 16th, 2012 at 11:07 pm
CutStryker Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 11:06 pm
Good analogy on Branch….I think!
I look at it this way…he’s not a baller!!
Branch is s starter because we dont have a baller.
September 16th, 2012 at 11:07 pm
manassamauler Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 11:04 pm
>> somebody has to get beat. Palmer is getting clocked on every pass. we need to see if Pryor has anything. a QB that can run changes things. if the Raiders fall to 0-3 Pryor should get some looks, and after we’re 0-5 he should start.
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The biggest mistake you can make is putting in there before he is ready. That could ruin him, and it has ruined a LOT of players before him. Personally I would not put him out there until he is ready. Or much later in the season when you might want to see what you have in him.
September 16th, 2012 at 11:07 pm
The season is over….deal with it now fellas.
It’s going to get uglier before it gets better, that is for damn sure.
It’s sad!
September 16th, 2012 at 11:08 pm
♪♫♪♫♪♫ Turn out the light, the party’s ove…♪♫♪♫♪
September 16th, 2012 at 11:08 pm
purvisman Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 11:06 pm
I would of liked to keep pimp slap as HC and Huebris as OC and Al Davis as as GMand any defensive warrior th
///////////////////Oh well!
September 16th, 2012 at 11:08 pm
DKnight007 Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 11:05 pm
realtruraider Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 11:03 pm
Cable took over a franchise in complete utter disarray. He won five games his lst year, 8 his second including being undefeated in the division. Jackson took over that franchise with a lot of momentum and lost four of his last five. A coinflip in KC saved him from losing 5 of his last 5. Jackson couldn’t coach his ass out of a paper bag. Let’s be honest
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Oh please, lets really be honest, Cable would of never came close to an 8-8 season without Hue, thats a fact
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Exactly. Hue haters are dumb!
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That’s why Tom Cable is the Assistant Head Coach of a 2-0 team and Jackson is barely hanging on in the league. Because somehow you guys know more than NFL people. You should quit your jobs and go apply to be a GM somewhere. smh.
September 16th, 2012 at 11:08 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 11:07 pm
manassamauler Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 11:04 pm
>> somebody has to get beat. Palmer is getting clocked on every pass. we need to see if Pryor has anything. a QB that can run changes things. if the Raiders fall to 0-3 Pryor should get some looks, and after we’re 0-5 he should start.
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The biggest mistake you can make is putting in there before he is ready. That could ruin him, and it has ruined a LOT of players before him. Personally I would not put him out there until he is ready. Or much later in the season when you might want to see what you have in him.
>> how will you know he is ready” you trust KNAPP to figure that out? Pryor can play, young talented and hungry, thats all you need. he’s hungry with something to prove and the talent to prove it.
September 16th, 2012 at 11:09 pm
Dandy Don Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 11:08 pm
♪♫♪♫♪♫ Turn out the light, the party’s ove…♪♫♪♫♪
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Hilarious.
September 16th, 2012 at 11:09 pm
DKnight007 Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 11:07 pm
The season is over….deal with it now fellas.
It’s going to get uglier before it gets better, that is for damn sure.
It’s sad!
♪♫♪♫♪♫♫♫♪♫♪♪♪♫♪♪♫♪♫♪♫♫♫♪♫♪♪♪♫♪♪♫♪♫♪♫♫♫♪♫♪♪♪♫♪
Word!
September 16th, 2012 at 11:10 pm
DKnight007 Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 11:07 pm
The season is over….deal with it now fellas.
It’s going to get uglier before it gets better, that is for damn sure.
It’s sad!
>> Ok man, are you on the start Terrell Pryor bandwagon yet? i wanna see what this talented and HUNGRY kid with a chip in his shoulder can do. if we fall to 0-3 i say start him.
September 16th, 2012 at 11:10 pm
Josh Dubow @JoshDubowAP
#Raiders 68 yds rushing this season. Lowest 2-game total since ‘03 is 77 vs Pit/Mia in 2010
September 16th, 2012 at 11:10 pm
0-16 Baby! 0-16 And I’m bein generous.
September 16th, 2012 at 11:11 pm
how will you know he is ready” you trust KNAPP to figure that out? Pryor can play, young talented and hungry, thats all you need. he’s hungry with something to prove and the talent to prove it.
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Remember, you didn’t see him against NFL starters. You saw him against scrubs and third teamers. He SHOULD dominate those guys and he did. But playing against the ones is completely different.
September 16th, 2012 at 11:11 pm
If we start pryor we’re gonna have to get creative to make good use of him.
Knapp can’t think outside his box at all.
Bad idea.
September 16th, 2012 at 11:11 pm
GK OC Oakland Raiders Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 11:04 pm
People be patient. 0-2 does not make a season. Despite no evidence that this system will work, lets reserve judgement til the season is over. It might take years and still won’t work, but hey, hear me out. 0-2 does not make a season. We look awful, clueless and disarrayed, but again, 0-2 does not make a season. If we go 0-16, maybe 1-15, heck, there is always next year. Everyone wants to eat their cake, but the NFL is tough. Very competetive. Somebody has to lose. But like I say, 0-2 is not a season. We have Pittsburgh next week, and then Denver. And then we get the bye. Now that is going to be fun. So hang tight people, 0-2 does not make a season. Later.
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)) and it’s going to feel even better when we start winning after this miserable starts ..chilax
Thank you …some teams like SanDiego who looks good so far will cool down and some other teams who are not looking good will pick up ..0-2 isn’t really that bad …both of our games were winnable ..penalties are down..special teams looking good … D and O would get better
September 16th, 2012 at 11:11 pm
The only solution to salvage this season is to make Saunders the OC. Only solution.
September 16th, 2012 at 11:12 pm
GK OC Oakland Raiders Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 11:04 pm
People be patient. 0-2 does not make a season. Despite no evidence that this system will work, lets reserve judgement til the season is over. It might take years and still won’t work, but hey, hear me out. 0-2 does not make a season. We look awful, clueless and disarrayed, but again, 0-2 does not make a season. If we go 0-16, maybe 1-15, heck, there is always next year. Everyone wants to eat their cake, but the NFL is tough. Very competetive. Somebody has to lose. But like I say, 0-2 is not a season. We have Pittsburgh next week, and then Denver. And then we get the bye. Now that is going to be fun. So hang tight people, 0-2 does not make a season. Later.
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Sorry bro. But this is clearly the worst and most depressing motivational speech I have ever encountered in my life…
September 16th, 2012 at 11:12 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 11:08 pm
DKnight007 Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 11:05 pm
realtruraider Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 11:03 pm
Cable took over a franchise in complete utter disarray. He won five games his lst year, 8 his second including being undefeated in the division. Jackson took over that franchise with a lot of momentum and lost four of his last five. A coinflip in KC saved him from losing 5 of his last 5. Jackson couldn’t coach his ass out of a paper bag. Let’s be honest
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Oh please, lets really be honest, Cable would of never came close to an 8-8 season without Hue, thats a fact
^^^^^^^^^
Exactly. Hue haters are dumb!
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That’s why Tom Cable is the Assistant Head Coach of a 2-0 team and Jackson is barely hanging on in the league. Because somehow you guys know more than NFL people. You should quit your jobs and go apply to be a GM somewhere. smh.
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Just wasnt in the cards. al overlording two different personalities, and a lot of people were saying Jackson was undermining cable and positioning himself for a HC gig. Then he got it, got some wins and began making too many “GM” moves.
Jackson did it to himself, then Davis got into the act by putting “his brand” on the team. More egos and “my system” types instead of instilling team work. A lot of guys got ran out and they were good coaches – Woodson, Wiz 1.0, etc.
September 16th, 2012 at 11:13 pm
0-2 teams make the playoffs 12% of the time, 0-3 team hasn’t made the playoffs since 2000. start Pryor
September 16th, 2012 at 11:13 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 11:04 pm
You also forget Hue lost his starting QB in Campbell
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You forget that Cable’s Q was Jamarcus. His backup was Gradkowski. His RB was Fargas, and his left tackle was mario Henderson. Just imagine what Cable could have done with Dmac and Campbell. And Carson.
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Hue’s first season was with 2 new QBs Campbell & Gradkowski. Not a lot to play with (back-ups at best) but still a top 10 offense in the league.
September 16th, 2012 at 11:14 pm
So if and when we trash the steelers and donkeys The naysayers will be gone? Not likely ,they never leave and I’m not just talking abut raidebrone.
September 16th, 2012 at 11:14 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 11:11 pm
GK OC Oakland Raiders Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 11:04 pm
People be patient. 0-2 does not make a season. Despite no evidence that this system will work, lets reserve judgement til the season is over. It might take years and still won’t work, but hey, hear me out. 0-2 does not make a season. We look awful, clueless and disarrayed, but again, 0-2 does not make a season. If we go 0-16, maybe 1-15, heck, there is always next year. Everyone wants to eat their cake, but the NFL is tough. Very competetive. Somebody has to lose. But like I say, 0-2 is not a season. We have Pittsburgh next week, and then Denver. And then we get the bye. Now that is going to be fun. So hang tight people, 0-2 does not make a season. Later.
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Thank you …some teams like SanDiego who looks good so far will cool down and some other teams who are not looking good will pick up ..0-2 isn’t really that bad …both of our games were winnable ..penalties are down..special teams looking good … D and O would get better )) and it’s going to feel even better when we start winning after this miserable starts ..chilax
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I’d buy in, except for one thing – we’ve seen this before with Knapp. Then they blew him out, and then the offense picked up…well, as much as it could with JaMarcus leading it…then cable took the team and 8-8, etc.
September 16th, 2012 at 11:14 pm
Purvisman Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 11:14 pm
So if and when we trash the steelers and donkeys The naysayers will be gone? Not likely ,they never leave and I’m not just talking abut raidebrone.
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OK, see you AFTER WE TRASH THE STEELERS AND BRONCOS.
September 16th, 2012 at 11:14 pm
Dandy Don Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 11:11 pm
The only solution to salvage this season is to make Saunders the OC. Only solution.
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Amen! And then bring back Wylie and Fassel to coach the O-line and Special Teams!
But Allen and Knapp’s newly founded company,
Cronyism & Egotism Inc. won’t allow for that kind of logical adjustment to save our season.
September 16th, 2012 at 11:15 pm
Manassamauler Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 11:13 pm
0-2 teams make the playoffs 12% of the time, 0-3 team hasn’t made the playoffs since 2000. start Pryor
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Yeah activate him, deactivate Leinart and see how CP3 performs…its getting close to the time that the running factor forces teams out of comfort zones.
September 16th, 2012 at 11:17 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 11:14 pm
Dandy Don Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 11:11 pm
The only solution to salvage this season is to make Saunders the OC. Only solution.
______________________________________________________
Amen! And then bring back Wylie and Fassel to coach the O-line and Special Teams!
But Allen and Knapp’s newly founded company,
Cronyism & Egotism Inc. won’t allow for that kind of logical adjustment to save our season.
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I think its what message it sends to the other players – this coach will bail on the guy this soon? etc.
Egotism is sticking with something , no matter how much its obviously not working, and selling guys on the system, even though its not working – thats when players start tuning you out.
September 16th, 2012 at 11:17 pm
RaiderSam Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 11:12 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 11:08 pm
DKnight007 Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 11:05 pm
realtruraider Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 11:03 pm
Cable took over a franchise in complete utter disarray. He won five games his lst year, 8 his second including being undefeated in the division. Jackson took over that franchise with a lot of momentum and lost four of his last five. A coinflip in KC saved him from losing 5 of his last 5. Jackson couldn’t coach his ass out of a paper bag. Let’s be honest
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Oh please, lets really be honest, Cable would of never came close to an 8-8 season without Hue, thats a fact
^^^^^^^^^
Exactly. Hue haters are dumb!
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That’s why Tom Cable is the Assistant Head Coach of a 2-0 team and Jackson is barely hanging on in the league. Because somehow you guys know more than NFL people. You should quit your jobs and go apply to be a GM somewhere. smh.
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Just wasnt in the cards. al overlording two different personalities, and a lot of people were saying Jackson was undermining cable and positioning himself for a HC gig. Then he got it, got some wins and began making too many “GM” moves.
Jackson did it to himself, then Davis got into the act by putting “his brand” on the team. More egos and “my system” types instead of instilling team work. A lot of guys got ran out and they were good coaches – Woodson, Wiz 1.0, etc.
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Frankly, I don’t think this is it at all. Cable was 8-8, winning 2 of his last 3 and 3 of his last 5. Only Peyton Manning coming back on him in the 4th quarter kept him from going 4-1 to end his tenure, including 6-0 in the division. Jackson took all that mo, and ended 1-4, 3-3 in the division. And was getting blown out at the end. There is no comparison.
September 16th, 2012 at 11:17 pm
Not sure you can call them naysayers anymore the season has started and its looking more like factsayers
September 16th, 2012 at 11:18 pm
We all have seen this story before and Knapp will have a job for the foreseeable future. The sad thing is that most knowledgeable fans understand that you must have a decent running game to complement the QB’s passing attack. If I were the OC and had a DMC, I would pound the rock early and often to set up my passing attack. Why the eff is Knapp doing things backwards? I see no rhythm or flow with the offense and that’s why we saw time of possession dominated by the Dolphins. On top of that, why did we eliminate our 6 corners from last season to replace them with even worse corners? On top of that, Jacoby the loser Ford gets hurt in August, and we can’t find a return man to save our lives! It really feels like this franchise has a dark cloud that just follows it everywhere it goes. It is a damn shame!
September 16th, 2012 at 11:18 pm
can we fukin stop talkin about if this guy was here if that guy was here we would have been this much good or that much good .. You guys need to look at the reality , If those guys were really that good.. They wouldn’t be position coaches at this point..at least Knapp still gets coordinator jobs here and there… Maybe his Offense keeps TOs down ..I don’t know there must still be something in him that entice coaches to hire him as the coordinator …we should have scored more this game ..some blame falls on Palmer he either missed some wide open targets and some times ignored them for a bigger strike … Beside our so called O.Co short comings and horrible line play..which falls on the Line Coach ..we were in position to put points on board ..
September 16th, 2012 at 11:18 pm
FIRE Knapp and let a monkey call the plays, at least the monkey would be more entertaining than the bullsh!t we see from Knapp.
September 16th, 2012 at 11:20 pm
I agree on making Saunders the OC and bringing back Wylie
September 16th, 2012 at 11:21 pm
Hue’s first season was with 2 new QBs Campbell & Gradkowski. Not a lot to play with (back-ups at best) but still a top 10 offense in the league.
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You can’t compare the personnel Cable had and the personnel that Jackson had. Jackson had INFINITELY better players. As I pointed out, Cables starting Q, starting RB, starting LT and starting RT three years later are all out of the league. How can you compare that?
September 16th, 2012 at 11:21 pm
RaiderSam Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 11:17 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 11:14 pm
Dandy Don Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 11:11 pm
The only solution to salvage this season is to make Saunders the OC. Only solution.
______________________________________________________
Amen! And then bring back Wylie and Fassel to coach the O-line and Special Teams!
But Allen and Knapp’s newly founded company,
Cronyism & Egotism Inc. won’t allow for that kind of logical adjustment to save our season.
=============
I think its what message it sends to the other players – this coach will bail on the guy this soon? etc.
Egotism is sticking with something , no matter how much its obviously not working, and selling guys on the system, even though its not working – thats when players start tuning you out.
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This is what we have to keep in mind…
Al Saunders is still on staff! I’m sure the team remembers how much success the offense had with him as offensive coordinator last year in contrast with the deplorable condition it is in now!
And what did Knapp do to EARN the Coaching job over Saunders? NOTHING, other than being friends with Dennis Allen!
That is Cronyism, and that is why you see such blatant, negative, body language from several players on the field already this year!
September 16th, 2012 at 11:21 pm
Just a damn cryin shame. zbs dont work. not with this group. This group is ballers being force fed a system not tailored to their strengths. How much BS can you feed somebody.
Be patient it will work with the right personel? Aint buyin it.
Make it work with who you got. Adapt to their strengths.
September 16th, 2012 at 11:22 pm
Fvckyoupurvisman Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 11:06 pm
I would of liked to keep pimp slap as HC and Huebris as OC and Al Davis as as GMand any defensive warrior th
///////////////////Oh well!
September 16th, 2012 at 11:22 pm
Hue was a good OC and should have stayed as an OC.
Cable was an alright HC, but he wasn’t going to take the team to the next level.
Best case scenario would have been Hue running the offense last year, a legit DC running the defense, and a HC who was all about proper decision making and discipline.
Unfortunately Hue was probably promised the HC job and Al was far too in love with his own style of defense and hired a puppet DC. Hue was in over his head in the beginning, and then was REALLY in over his head when his entire offence got hurt and Al passed.
September 16th, 2012 at 11:23 pm
Knapp was a qb coach the last couple years, he probably should still be one.
September 16th, 2012 at 11:23 pm
Maybe we should fire our Oline coach ..O lines been pushed back in both of the games so far …move CC back to RG …start Parsons at C and move Wiz back to guard …give one of the back ups the chance to win RT job …if freaking scrubs can look good in ZBS then there should be no chance McFadden shouldn’t look good in this ..it’s all the fault of the O line coach this all falls on him
September 16th, 2012 at 11:24 pm
Carson Palmer will play unless he gets injured. I feel bad for the guy, but at the same time, he is not performing as we expected. He is on par with an Alex Smith, and that does nothing for a team with a heartless defense.
September 16th, 2012 at 11:24 pm
IN ONE OFFSEASON, UNDER GREG KNAPP’S SCHEME, DARREN MCFADDEN HAS GONE FROM BEING THE BEST BACK IN THE LEAGUE TO BEING ARGUABLY THE WORST!!! HE IS AVERAGING LESS THAT 2 YDS A CARRY!!!
The majority of our weapons on offense including the QB were drafted or acquired using the Al Davis, vertical, stretch the field, power scheme philosophy.
We do not have the player personnel to fully implement what Knapp is trying to do!
This entire thing was handled completely AZZ BACKWARDS from the start!!!
Make Al Saunders the OC and reassign Greg Knapp to QB coach to help Terrelle Pryor develop!!
We have to send the UNITED message that Dennis Allen and Greg Knapp’s CRONYISM and misplaced EGOTISM, is NOT more valuable than the PASSION, LOVE, and SUPPORT of the RAIDER NATION!!!
As a result…
J Raider started the OFFICIAL:
“FIRE”, “DEMOTE”, “RELIEVE OF PLAYCALLING DUTIES” GREG KNAPP” PETITION!!!
Whatever language you prefer makes no difference to me!!!
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IT’S TIME TO LEAD A REVOLT AROUND HERE THE LIKES OF WHICH WE HAVEN’T SEEN SINCE PAUL REVERE AND GEORGE WASHINGTON!!!
September 16th, 2012 at 11:26 pm
Okay I sign
September 16th, 2012 at 11:27 pm
Maybe we just don’t have a good Oline coach or they miss another assistant .I dont know how much diff original wiz would have made on the Oline but I still wish he was with the team ..they could hAve played with his mean streak
September 16th, 2012 at 11:27 pm
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 7:56 am
Klas is done following Arron Curry on twitter. Tired of all his Jesus freak bull sh*t. Probably never play for Raiders again anyways.
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Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
Jesus H Christ!
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see, i knew u liked Him! He is nice guy.
September 16th, 2012 at 11:27 pm
Knapp and OLINE coach go hand and hand man. When Knapp goes at the end of the year so will the OLINE coach he bought with him from the Texans
September 16th, 2012 at 11:28 pm
come one people, the season is NOT salvageable. salvaging a season means MAKING THE PLAYOFFS. this team won’t. if/when the steelers beat us it’s officially over. lets move on. start pryor and cut some dead weight. get some draft picks and rebuild
September 16th, 2012 at 11:28 pm
I say fire Oline coach
September 16th, 2012 at 11:28 pm
The main difference with the play of this team is the complete flop of this O-Line. Everything else is pretty much the same.
September 16th, 2012 at 11:29 pm
IN ONE OFFSEASON, UNDER GREG KNAPP’S SCHEME, DARREN MCFADDEN HAS GONE FROM BEING THE BEST BACK IN THE LEAGUE TO BEING ARGUABLY THE WORST!!! HE IS AVERAGING LESS THAT 2 YDS A CARRY!!!
The majority of our weapons on offense including the QB were drafted or acquired using the Al Davis, vertical, stretch the field, power scheme philosophy.
We do not have the player personnel to fully implement what Knapp is trying to do!
This entire thing was handled completely AZZ BACKWARDS from the start!!!
Make Al Saunders the OC and reassign Greg Knapp to QB coach to help Terrelle Pryor develop!!
We have to send the UNITED message that Dennis Allen and Greg Knapp’s CRONYISM and misplaced EGOTISM, is NOT more valuable than the PASSION, LOVE, and SUPPORT of the RAIDER NATION!!!
As a result…
J Raider started the OFFICIAL:
“FIRE”, “DEMOTE”, “RELIEVE OF PLAYCALLING DUTIES” GREG KNAPP” PETITION!!!
Whatever language you prefer makes no difference to me!!!
*J-Raider
*MonumentRaider
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*Al_is_Theraiders
*Raiderimmortal
*Elraidmanhattan
*DKnight007
*Marks Hair
*ArmChairGM
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IT’S TIME TO LEAD A REVOLT AROUND HERE THE LIKES OF WHICH WE HAVEN’T SEEN SINCE PAUL REVERE AND GEORGE WASHINGTON!!!
September 16th, 2012 at 11:29 pm
Your bad and you should feel bad!!!!
September 16th, 2012 at 11:30 pm
J Raider, add me to the list. Knapp did nothing today to convince me he understands how to use a top notch running back.
September 16th, 2012 at 11:30 pm
beach Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 11:24 pm
Carson Palmer will play unless he gets injured. I feel bad for the guy, but at the same time, he is not performing as we expected. He is on par with an Alex Smith, and that does nothing for a team with a heartless defense.
>> WHY should palmer play out the string when the season is lost? we have a young talent sitting there. raider fans should find out what Pryor can do. I’d rather go 1-15 with pryor than 3-13 with palmer.
September 16th, 2012 at 11:30 pm
IN ONE OFFSEASON, UNDER GREG KNAPP’S SCHEME, DARREN MCFADDEN HAS GONE FROM BEING THE BEST BACK IN THE LEAGUE TO BEING ARGUABLY THE WORST!!! HE IS AVERAGING LESS THAT 2 YDS A CARRY!!!
The majority of our weapons on offense including the QB were drafted or acquired using the Al Davis, vertical, stretch the field, power scheme philosophy.
We do not have the player personnel to fully implement what Knapp is trying to do!
This entire thing was handled completely AZZ BACKWARDS from the start!!!
Make Al Saunders the OC and reassign Greg Knapp to QB coach to help Terrelle Pryor develop!!
We have to send the UNITED message that Dennis Allen and Greg Knapp’s CRONYISM and misplaced EGOTISM, is NOT more valuable than the PASSION, LOVE, and SUPPORT of the RAIDER NATION!!!
As a result…
J Raider started the OFFICIAL:
“FIRE”, “DEMOTE”, “RELIEVE OF PLAYCALLING DUTIES” GREG KNAPP” PETITION!!!
Whatever language you prefer makes no difference to me!!!
*J-Raider
*MonumentRaider
*EMRaiders
*JB
*Al_is_Theraiders
*Raiderimmortal
*Elraidmanhattan
*DKnight007
*Marks Hair
*ArmChairGM
*Stringer Bell
*Ooo0ooO
*RaidO
*Armond
*Drray
*RaiderDav
*RaiderO
*Raiderman99
*R8eray
*Dakota
*DJ Johnny
*Oakfoshow
*Guest123
*TxRaider210
*Turducken
*Johnnylama
*Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush)
*RaiderDuck
*DutchRaider77
*exlaraiderseasonticketholder
*The Big Banana
*Walrushooker
*Klas Tjorborn
*IndianaRaider
*bigfoot
*DKnight007
*DMAC
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*JohnnyRaider
*eastoaklandraider
*gtown1_sj
*El Gato Negro
*R8er Mike
*Raiderbuck
*Dan78
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*realtruraider
*chuck
*nwr8r
*boss01
*Mr Green
*CODEBLACK2011
*303Raider
*redshirt
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*zopi
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*PapaRaider
*poprox13
*davidon
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*Dhidee99
*CutStryker
*Hendu
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*THE BLACKHOLE
*youngtex47
*rediaR
*Method To My Madness
*Beach
IT’S TIME TO LEAD A REVOLT AROUND HERE THE LIKES OF WHICH WE HAVEN’T SEEN SINCE PAUL REVERE AND GEORGE WASHINGTON!!!
September 16th, 2012 at 11:30 pm
Maybe it will take some time for the Oline to get these sh1t together ..don’t forget we have some players playing out of their normal positions ..can’t blame Knapp’s Playbook when the O line is not getting Any work done…I miss Wiley ..the whole O line liked that guy
September 16th, 2012 at 11:31 pm
Colts, Rams, Dolphins and Bucs are breaking in new systems with new Head Coaches and Offensive Coordinators, just like us.
2012 Colts: 22 ppg, up from 15.2 in 2011
2012 Rams: 27 ppg, up from 12.1 in 2011
2012 Bucs: 25 ppg, up from 17.9 in 2011
2012 Dolphins: 22.5 ppg, up from 20.6 in 2011
- Oakland Raiders: 13.5, down from 22.4 in 2011.
“It’s gonna take some time”, better hurry up.
September 16th, 2012 at 11:31 pm
1st, Krapper feeds DMC like every play then he abandoned him against Miami. Doesn’t use Reece a hell of a lot! Dnt kno wht this guy is thinking?! I personally would use Pryor in some capacity, to not is just ignorant! The kid has a lot of upside, spread O, WildCat, decoy..something! These coaches and cords aren’t giving us the best chance to win..period!
RM is either trying to deliberately lose or is giving the benefit of the doubt! If there isn’t some adjustment after this game, I’ll be convinced RM is tanking on the RAIDERS!!!
September 16th, 2012 at 11:31 pm
manassamauler Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 11:30 pm
beach Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 11:24 pm
Carson Palmer will play unless he gets injured. I feel bad for the guy, but at the same time, he is not performing as we expected. He is on par with an Alex Smith, and that does nothing for a team with a heartless defense.
>> WHY should palmer play out the string when the season is lost?
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Palmer is completing 60% of his passes 2TD’s to one pick for an 84 QB rating. McFadden is averaging 2 yds per carry. I think you guys are focusing on the wrong player.
September 16th, 2012 at 11:32 pm
our O would go as far as the Oline would take us
September 16th, 2012 at 11:32 pm
Positive note: I like Ausberry again. He’s made a few plays when in the game. If Carson wanted to throw to a double covered TE all of the time I’d feel much better if it was him instead of Gordon.
Positive note #2: Goodson didn’t fumble!
September 16th, 2012 at 11:33 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 11:31 pm
manassamauler Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 11:30 pm
beach Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 11:24 pm
Carson Palmer will play unless he gets injured. I feel bad for the guy, but at the same time, he is not performing as we expected. He is on par with an Alex Smith, and that does nothing for a team with a heartless defense.
>> WHY should palmer play out the string when the season is lost?
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Palmer is completing 60% of his passes 2TD’s to one pick for an 84 QB rating. McFadden is averaging 2 yds per carry. I think you guys are focusing on the wrong player.
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>> why did we draft Pryor? season is already lost. it doesn’t matter what stats Palmer puts up, hes not the future. we need to find out if we have a future with Pryor.
September 16th, 2012 at 11:34 pm
Palmer isn’t really the problem, but he also isn’t the solution.
September 16th, 2012 at 11:34 pm
palmer is the problem ? hah. HaH!.
September 16th, 2012 at 11:34 pm
I am so sorry Mr. Al Davis for what has become of your beloved team.
Not because we lost because we have had bad teams before.
But because for the first time in our existence, I can honestly say that we have lost our IDENTITY!
We have lost that arrogant swagger that made us unique, and now look like any other hapless, awful NFL bottom dweller.
No identity, no personality. I think that is what hurts me the most!
Thanks Reggie Mckenzie and Dennis Allen…smh
September 16th, 2012 at 11:35 pm
Bob Marley Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 11:31 pm
Colts, Rams, Dolphins and Bucs are breaking in new systems with new Head Coaches and Offensive Coordinators, just like us.
2012 Colts: 22 ppg, up from 15.2 in 2011
2012 Rams: 27 ppg, up from 12.1 in 2011
2012 Bucs: 25 ppg, up from 17.9 in 2011
2012 Dolphins: 22.5 ppg, up from 20.6 in 2011
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Every one of those teams are running the ball much better than we are. I would like to see what happens if Goodson is the starting RB.
September 16th, 2012 at 11:35 pm
Only problem I have with knapp is that running on every second and 10 play and getting only a yard out of it.. Why can’t they just dink and dunk all the way and only run on 1st down atleast that way our 3rd downs would be manageable instead of being 3rd and 8 and so n so after getting stuffed on 2nd and 10 running play like 10 times
September 16th, 2012 at 11:35 pm
I tried to simulate the steelers raiders game on madden.. but it just shows the steelers raping our azzes.. will that really happen?
September 16th, 2012 at 11:35 pm
CutStryker Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 11:31 pm
1st, Krapper feeds DMC like every play then he abandoned him against Miami. Doesn’t use Reece a hell of a lot! Dnt kno wht this guy is thinking?! I personally would use Pryor in some capacity, to not is just ignorant! The kid has a lot of upside, spread O, WildCat, decoy..something! These coaches and cords aren’t giving us the best chance to win..period!
RM is either trying to deliberately lose or is giving the benefit of the doubt! If there isn’t some adjustment after this game, I’ll be convinced RM is tanking on the RAIDERS!!!
>>> Reese,Moore,DHB,WIZ,Veldheer are keepers. rest of this OFFENSE is on thin ice. DMAC mostly because of the scheme and his 2nd round pick value. and injury history and soon to be at contract NEG stage.
September 16th, 2012 at 11:36 pm
Wrong backward Raider.
September 16th, 2012 at 11:36 pm
the good:
1) palmer is playing great, even when he has to throw off his back foot.
2) dhb has good hands now. moore played well.
3) goodson is good, like i’ve said for a while now.
4) myers is pretty good TE.
5) wheeler gets after it.
the bad:
1) o-line still not creating lanes. still getting pushed backwards from pass rush.
2) play calling is suspect. success with reece, dhb, goodson, ausberry, but they don’t go back to them enuff.
3) d-line only knows bull rush. 2 sacks in 2 games.
4) no turnovers? wow.
the ugly:
1) cb’s are all rejects and the two best of those are hurt. gulp.
2) dmc looks bad. tentative and not explosive. the new chris johnson (titans version)
3) mcclain is fuking HORRIBLE! 2 tackles from the MLB? i watched him play patty cake and avoid contact all game. sometimes didn’t have a clue where the ball was. was looking the other way many times while everyone else tried to make tackle. HE SUCKS, HE SUCKS, HE SUCKS!!!
September 16th, 2012 at 11:37 pm
2nd and 10? Time to stretch run for a loss!!!!!
September 16th, 2012 at 11:37 pm
why did we draft Pryor?
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Pryor was certainly drafted as a developmental player. Davis had the tendency to saddle his coaching staffs with those kind of players, which in the modern NFL is so difficult to win and coach, developing very raw prospects normally is an extreme hinderance. Remember, Pryor did not play AT ALL last year, and has had very limited work this year. To throw him out there right now would be all but disastrous on multiple levels I
September 16th, 2012 at 11:37 pm
I hate Knapps play calling that’s not the point.
September 16th, 2012 at 11:38 pm
purvisman Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 11:34 pm
palmer is the problem ? hah. HaH!.
>> what future is there with Palmer? he’s not what he was and what he was wasn’t even top 5 talent. he’s good but he’s not going to solve this. no point in starting him after next week if we lose. we should see what pryor has. would you rather go 1-15 with Pryor and see what he can do or go 3-13 with palmer and still not know .
September 16th, 2012 at 11:38 pm
I’m in agreement that Al Saunders is talent being wasted as a “quality control” coach.
I agre he should replace Knapp as the OC.
But saying that this team is done. When they emerge from their 0-5 start this team will mutiny. Guys will “throw in the towell” & play not to get injured as they prepare for another NFL destination in 2013.
We’ve been here before, folks. Doesn’t matter who runs what sort of offensive system if you can’t block guys you can’t run the ball. This is a run first team & they are complete failures in this department.
They have NO NFL caliber cornerbacks. Branch & Huff are better @ covering receivers than Spencer & Lee. They expected a now injury prone Ron Bartell to be a difference maker?
I wonder what the fate of Aso would have been if Al had thrown the money in his direction instead of Stanford Routt. My only solace @ this point is the fact the Chefs have looked just as woeful as the Faiders to this point. Boss leaving the game with a concussion, well, don’t wish misfortune upon anyone but, well, his badmouthing of the Raiders after he left was just poor taste. Routt will sample the same soon.
So, onto next week’s excuses:
(1 The Steelers are a playoff caliber team. We aspire to that level (when we relocate to LA). . .
(2 Rome wasn’t built in a day. We’re still adjusting to the new offensive schemes & blocking patterns & the Steelers are great against the run.
(3 Our WR injury concerns still have us behind the “8″ ball, thus we are still behind the learning curve.
(4 Cornerback injuries have robbed us of continuity in covering NFL caliber WR’s. . .
Did I miss anything? At this point I don’t factor in any further posts this season. Just a waste of time following the Raiders in 2012. If they win TWO GAMES I will be surprised. The talent gap between the Raiders & teams competing @ the mediocre (8-8, folks) level is as wide as the Grand Canyon. . .and widening as Reggie scours the waiver wires in quest of a tanelt upgrade. That’s what this year’s Raider legacy is left to. . .
September 16th, 2012 at 11:38 pm
456. Nice stat post it all week
September 16th, 2012 at 11:39 pm
To throw him out there right now would be all but disastrous on multiple levels I would think. (Is how that should have read.)
September 16th, 2012 at 11:39 pm
just watched highlights of the day’s game on the nfl network. it’s an hour and a half long show. the raiders game was on for 30 seconds. wtf!
September 16th, 2012 at 11:40 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 11:37 pm
why did we draft Pryor?
====================================
Pryor was certainly drafted as a developmental player. Davis had the tendency to saddle his coaching staffs with those kind of players, which in the modern NFL is so difficult to win and coach, developing very raw prospects normally is an extreme hinderance. Remember, Pryor did not play AT ALL last year, and has had very limited work this year. To throw him out there right now would be all but disastrous on multiple levels I
>> what work did cam newton get last year before the season started? i know Pryor is as highly touted but leaving Palmer in there to win 3 games this year is pointless.
September 16th, 2012 at 11:40 pm
Play tp!! I want the 1st pick!
September 16th, 2012 at 11:40 pm
Did anybody file a “missing person” report on Dick Seymour? Has anybody seen him?
September 16th, 2012 at 11:41 pm
2nd and ten anybody? anybody? how about we run it? with DMC Oh you knew that? gosh I wonder if they they did?
September 16th, 2012 at 11:42 pm
Fck pryor. That is not the answer.
September 16th, 2012 at 11:42 pm
I see Seymour retiring very soon due to bad wheels & overgrown teeth. This is his last year in the NFL.
September 16th, 2012 at 11:42 pm
Bob Marley Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 11:31 pm
Colts, Rams, Dolphins and Bucs are breaking in new systems with new Head Coaches and Offensive Coordinators, just like us.
2012 Colts: 22 ppg, up from 15.2 in 2011
2012 Rams: 27 ppg, up from 12.1 in 2011
2012 Bucs: 25 ppg, up from 17.9 in 2011
2012 Dolphins: 22.5 ppg, up from 20.6 in 2011
- Oakland Raiders: 13.5, down from 22.4 in 2011.
“It’s gonna take some time”, better hurry up.
==============================================
Then there’s Harbaugh making the whiners an instant competitor in his first year.
Folks can spin it any way they like, but the evidence all points to a complete failure by the new coaching staff.
September 16th, 2012 at 11:42 pm
bottom line for me: go 1-15 with Pryor, see what he can do AND get the 1st overall pick OR go 3-13/4-12 with palmer and miss out on the top prospect, whether it be offense or defense
September 16th, 2012 at 11:43 pm
OL.
We have 1 new player who is supposed to be a system specialist, Wiz played some C last year and shined, Carslile switched sides, not such a huge deal.
Besides….
The Raiders could have brought back the 2010-2011 unit intact if they had re-sgned C Samson Satele instead of spending good money on Mike Brisiel, pushing Carlisle into LG and Wiz into C.
You know the same OL that sprung the 7th ranked rushing attack and allowed just 25 sacks.
And our current starters are all the athletic type who supposedely fit the ZBS, even Barnes is agile for a RT.
September 16th, 2012 at 11:43 pm
Seymour has been done since early last season
September 16th, 2012 at 11:43 pm
Knapps a fuçking curse!! He works for sf.
September 16th, 2012 at 11:44 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 11:39 pm
To throw him out there right now would be all but disastrous on multiple levels I would think. (Is how that should have read.)
///////////////That’s what I meant/.
September 16th, 2012 at 11:45 pm
throwing palmer out there to win 4 games this year is pointless on multiple levels.
September 16th, 2012 at 11:46 pm
488. You mean when he committed 2 personal fouls vs. New England on the first drive of the game? I cannot stand Dick Seymour.
September 16th, 2012 at 11:46 pm
We’re gonna make pits look like sb winners… fuçk you hoffman &knapp!!
September 16th, 2012 at 11:46 pm
lets trade palmer for jason cambell
September 16th, 2012 at 11:48 pm
Seymour Bush.
“Bob Marley Says:
Colts, Rams, Dolphins and Bucs are breaking in new systems with new Head Coaches and Offensive Coordinators, just like us.
2012 Colts: 22 ppg, up from 15.2 in 2011
2012 Rams: 27 ppg, up from 12.1 in 2011
2012 Bucs: 25 ppg, up from 17.9 in 2011
2012 Dolphins: 22.5 ppg, up from 20.6 in 2011.”
===========================================
Every one of those teams are running the ball much better than we are. I would like to see what happens if Goodson is the starting RB.
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Seymour buddy, you think playing Goodson over McFadden could be the solution?.
September 16th, 2012 at 11:49 pm
Marks hair Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 11:46 pm
We’re gonna make pits look like sb winners… fuçk you hoffman &knapp!!
>> i actually think this will be the super bowl for the Raiders this year. which means that we’ll hang around until the 2nd half with a top team and then reality will settle in.
September 16th, 2012 at 11:49 pm
Manassa, I will have to disagree with you. Maybe Carson can be trade bait if he continues to play well, while the rest of the team looks like doo doo!
September 16th, 2012 at 11:50 pm
Fuçk you knapp!! Eat a bag of dicks!
September 16th, 2012 at 11:50 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 11:42 pm
Bob Marley Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 11:31 pm
Colts, Rams, Dolphins and Bucs are breaking in new systems with new Head Coaches and Offensive Coordinators, just like us.
2012 Colts: 22 ppg, up from 15.2 in 2011
2012 Rams: 27 ppg, up from 12.1 in 2011
2012 Bucs: 25 ppg, up from 17.9 in 2011
2012 Dolphins: 22.5 ppg, up from 20.6 in 2011
- Oakland Raiders: 13.5, down from 22.4 in 2011.
“It’s gonna take some time”, better hurry up.
==============================================
Then there’s Harbaugh making the whiners an instant competitor in his first year.
Folks can spin it any way they like, but the evidence all points to a complete failure by the new coaching staff.
================
Harbaugh already had a top flight ILB in Patrick Willis, and good run defender in Justin Smith and allowed Alex Smith to flourish by BELIEVING in him.
The complete failure was not recognizing that this ZBS doesnt fit with McFadden’s skill set, nor is Palmer compatible with getting outside of the pocket.
September 16th, 2012 at 11:51 pm
beach Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 11:49 pm
Manassa, I will have to disagree with you. Maybe Carson can be trade bait if he continues to play well, while the rest of the team looks like doo doo!
>> what can a 33 year old Qb get you? we could get 2 first round picks if HUE JACKSON got another HC gig by then, other than that we’ll get jack
September 16th, 2012 at 11:51 pm
Armchair…sign me up.
Thought i was on the list,
but my Knapp is Krapp comment might have gotten sensored.
September 16th, 2012 at 11:52 pm
will the Raiders score a TD next week?
September 16th, 2012 at 11:52 pm
IN ONE OFF SEASON, UNDER GREG KNAPP’S SCHEME, DARREN MCFADDEN HAS GONE FROM BEING THE BEST BACK IN THE LEAGUE TO BEING ARGUABLY THE WORST!!! HE IS AVERAGING LESS THAT 2 YDS A CARRY!!!
The majority of our weapons on offense including the QB were drafted or acquired using the Al Davis, vertical, stretch the field, power scheme philosophy.
We do not have the player personnel to fully implement what Knapp is trying to do!
This entire thing was handled completely AZZ BACKWARDS from the start!!!
Make Al Saunders the OC and reassign Greg Knapp to QB coach to help Terrelle Pryor develop!!
We have to send the UNITED message that Dennis Allen and Greg Knapp’s CRONYISM and misplaced EGOTISM, is NOT more valuable than the PASSION, LOVE, and SUPPORT of the RAIDER NATION!!!
As a result…
J Raider started the OFFICIAL:
“FIRE”, “DEMOTE”, “RELIEVE OF PLAY CALLING DUTIES” GREG KNAPP” PETITION!!!
Whatever language you prefer makes no difference to me!!!
*J-Raider
*MonumentRaider
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*JB
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*Elraidmanhattan
*DKnight007
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IT’S TIME TO LEAD A REVOLT AROUND HERE THE LIKES OF WHICH WE HAVEN’T SEEN SINCE PAUL REVERE AND GEORGE WASHINGTON!!!
September 16th, 2012 at 11:52 pm
Smoke some cock you chump!
September 16th, 2012 at 11:52 pm
Manassamauler Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 11:40 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 11:37 pm
why did we draft Pryor?
====================================
Pryor was certainly drafted as a developmental player. Davis had the tendency to saddle his coaching staffs with those kind of players, which in the modern NFL is so difficult to win and coach, developing very raw prospects normally is an extreme hinderance. Remember, Pryor did not play AT ALL last year, and has had very limited work this year. To throw him out there right now would be all but disastrous on multiple levels I
>> what work did cam newton get last year before the season started? i know Pryor is as highly touted but leaving Palmer in there to win 3 games this year is pointless.
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If Palmer keeps getting sacked, we’ll find out sooner than later about Pryor
September 16th, 2012 at 11:54 pm
Dirty conjob!
September 16th, 2012 at 11:54 pm
We have to send a UNITED message that Dennis Allen and Greg Knapp’s CRONYISM and misplaced EGOTISM, is NOT more valuable than the PASSION, LOVE, and SUPPORT of the RAIDER NATION!!!
As a result…
J Raider started the OFFICIAL:
“FIRE”, “DEMOTE”, “RELIEVE OF PLAY CALLING DUTIES” GREG KNAPP” PETITION!!!
Whatever language you prefer makes no difference to me!!!
*J-Raider
*MonumentRaider
*EMRaiders
*JB
*Al_is_Theraiders
*Raiderimmortal
*Elraidmanhattan
*DKnight007
*Marks Hair
*ArmChairGM
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*Guest123
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*VanHeathen30
IT’S TIME TO LEAD A REVOLT AROUND HERE THE LIKES OF WHICH WE HAVEN’T SEEN SINCE PAUL REVERE AND GEORGE WASHINGTON!!!
September 16th, 2012 at 11:54 pm
Good night, see you guys in the morning.
September 16th, 2012 at 11:54 pm
manassamauler Says:
lets trade palmer for jason cambell
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If you don’t want to win now. sounds dumb at this point but you’d rather be a bear fan?
September 16th, 2012 at 11:55 pm
Palmer is getting leveled constantly. he makes throws while running backwards.
September 16th, 2012 at 11:55 pm
How about if I just say shut up and let it go at that?
September 16th, 2012 at 11:56 pm
Its an old fashion conjob!!
September 16th, 2012 at 11:56 pm
For the sake of curiosity….
Does anybody actually think Greg Knapp is the best OC for the Raiders this season. I’d like to see that list too. I’ll start it off,lol.
The Official, I SUPPORT GREG KNAPP LIST:
*Raider Riff
*Seymour Bush
*Sullivan44
September 16th, 2012 at 11:57 pm
purvisman Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 11:55 pm
How about if I just say shut up and let it go at that?
>>> how about you drink a little more and pass out?
September 16th, 2012 at 11:57 pm
manassamauler Says:
Palmer is getting leveled constantly. he makes throws while running backward/////////////////He should block for himself better.
September 16th, 2012 at 11:58 pm
Throw that dumb bltch knapp off the plane!!
September 16th, 2012 at 11:58 pm
If Palmer goes down,
it’ll take about 1 game before Leinart hits the IR.
Dude is made of glass and not able to avoid getting whacked. TP would have to play.
September 16th, 2012 at 11:58 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 11:56 pm
For the sake of curiosity….
Does anybody actually think Greg Knapp is the best OC for the Raiders this season. I’d like to see that list too. I’ll start it off,lol.
The Official, I SUPPORT GREG KNAPP LIST:
*Raider Riff
*Seymour Bush
*Sullivan44
>>> ONLY positives about knapps offense have been fewer penalties and fewer turnovers. BUT its harder to turn the ball over when you just check it down 3 yards every pass play.
September 16th, 2012 at 11:58 pm
Because I’m the one making sense and you are not.
September 16th, 2012 at 11:59 pm
Palmer throws leaning backwards a lot. wont even step up and throw because he’ll lose his ribs.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:00 am
purvisman Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 11:58 pm
Because I’m the one making sense and you are not.
>> that’s what drunk people always say
September 17th, 2012 at 12:00 am
I wouldnt be so pizzed about the wco if we at least kept the power blocking..
September 17th, 2012 at 12:01 am
Dam, got me again, ully. You’re good..
September 17th, 2012 at 12:01 am
Dam, got me again,S ully. You’re good..
September 17th, 2012 at 12:02 am
-1 yard rushing in the 2nd hlf tells it all…PATHETIC!
BTW: how can a team get any traction on a new blocking scheme that they can’t practice because of the cut blocks? not a very easy transition with that caveat…
DA looked pizzed when asked about it at his post game presser…can’t wait to watch his head explode tomorrow.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:02 am
Dam, got me again, Sully. You’re good..
September 17th, 2012 at 12:02 am
There it is..
September 17th, 2012 at 12:03 am
i just don’t want to see McFadden wasted like this. the guy is running 30 yards sideways to pick up 2 yards in Crapps “system”. Crap has shut down the most explosive RB in the league.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:03 am
If darknight007 gets to be on the list twice i wanna be on again too!! Fuçk you knapp!!
September 17th, 2012 at 12:05 am
Fuçking dork!! Killed our yr you fag!
September 17th, 2012 at 12:05 am
Yea, everybody says DA looked puzzled or out of sorts . Did NOT see that myself. It is a crap observation.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:07 am
manassamauler Says: i just don’t want to see McFadden wasted like this. the guy is running 30 yards sideways to pick up 2 yards in Crapps “system”. Crap has shut down the most explosive RB in the league.///////////////////////////////Not gonna argue.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:07 am
LOUD NOISES!!!!!!!
September 17th, 2012 at 12:08 am
DA…your team has lost to teams coached by Norval Turner and Regis Philbin.
Not a very illustrious start to your HC career…
September 17th, 2012 at 12:10 am
Marks hair Says: Fuçking dork!! Killed our yr you fag!//////////////How you really feel about this, hair? I tend to agree..by the way
September 17th, 2012 at 12:12 am
Crap has shut down the most explosive RB in the league.//////////////////bears repeating.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:12 am
Crap has shut down the most explosive RB in the league. Really bears repeating.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:20 am
“FIRE”, “DEMOTE”, “RELIEVE OF PLAY CALLING DUTIES” GREG KNAPP” PETITION!!!
September 17th, 2012 at 12:27 am
We have to send a UNITED message that Dennis Allen and Greg Knapp’s CRONYISM and misplaced EGOTISM, is NOT more valuable than the PASSION, LOVE, and SUPPORT of the RAIDER NATION!!!
As a result…
J Raider started the OFFICIAL:
“FIRE”, “DEMOTE”, “RELIEVE OF PLAY CALLING DUTIES” GREG KNAPP” PETITION!!!
Whatever language you prefer makes no difference to me!!!
*J-Raider
*MonumentRaider
*EMRaiders
*JB
*Al_is_Theraiders
*Raiderimmortal
*Elraidmanhattan
*DKnight007
*Marks Hair
*ArmChairGM
*Stringer Bell
*Ooo0ooO
*RaidO
*Armond
*Drray
*RaiderDav
*RaiderO
*Raiderman99
*R8eray
*Dakota
*DJ Johnny
*Oakfoshow
*Guest123
*TxRaider210
*Turducken
*Johnnylama
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*RaiderDuck
*DutchRaider77
*exlaraiderseasonticketholder
*The Big Banana
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*Klas Tjorborn
*IndianaRaider
*bigfoot
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*DMAC
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*JohnnyRaider
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*gtown1_sj
*El Gato Negro
*R8er Mike
*Raiderbuck
*Dan78
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*boss01
*Mr Green
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*303Raider
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*poprox13
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*rediaR
*Method To My Madness
*Beach
*antispy3
*VanHeathen30
IT’S TIME TO LEAD A REVOLT AROUND HERE THE LIKES OF WHICH WE HAVEN’T SEEN SINCE PAUL REVERE AND GEORGE WASHINGTON!!!
September 17th, 2012 at 12:35 am
Fuçk your stupid face knapp!
September 17th, 2012 at 12:37 am
The Raiders at (-30) currently have the the third worst point differential in the whole NFL ahead of only Tennessee (-49) and Kansas City (-34).
September 17th, 2012 at 12:39 am
It is obvious that we need to Draft Matt Barkley, trade DMAC for Mark Sanchez, and sign Cassell in order to have every modern quarterback that USC has ever produced!
September 17th, 2012 at 12:40 am
IN ONE OFFSEASON, UNDER GREG KNAPP’S SCHEME, DARREN MCFADDEN HAS GONE FROM BEING THE BEST BACK IN THE LEAGUE TO BEING ARGUABLY THE WORST!!! HE IS AVERAGING LESS THAT 2 YDS A CARRY!!!
We have to send a UNITED message that Dennis Allen and Greg Knapp’s CRONYISM and misplaced EGOTISM, is NOT more valuable than the PASSION, LOVE, and SUPPORT of the RAIDER NATION!!!
As a result…
J Raider started the OFFICIAL:
“FIRE”, “DEMOTE”, “RELIEVE OF PLAY CALLING DUTIES” GREG KNAPP” PETITION!!!
Whatever language you prefer makes no difference to me!!!
*J-Raider
*MonumentRaider
*EMRaiders
*JB
*Al_is_Theraiders
*Raiderimmortal
*Elraidmanhattan
*DKnight007
*Marks Hair
*ArmChairGM
*Stringer Bell
*Ooo0ooO
*RaidO
*Armond
*Drray
*RaiderDav
*RaiderO
*Raiderman99
*R8eray
*Dakota
*DJ Johnny
*Oakfoshow
*Guest123
*TxRaider210
*Turducken
*Johnnylama
*Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush)
*RaiderDuck
*DutchRaider77
*exlaraiderseasonticketholder
*The Big Banana
*Walrushooker
*Klas Tjorborn
*IndianaRaider
*bigfoot
*SouthTexasRaider
*DMAC
*JT
*NYRaider
*JohnnyRaider
*eastoaklandraider
*gtown1_sj
*El Gato Negro
*R8er Mike
*Raiderbuck
*Dan78
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*chuck
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*boss01
*Mr Green
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*Dhidee99
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September 17th, 2012 at 12:40 am
While drafting none of the USC Olinemen that protected them
September 17th, 2012 at 12:43 am
horrible playcalling!
the offense is just horse schit! cant gain more than 3 fahqin yards on a run play??!!??
this season is gonna blow!
September 17th, 2012 at 12:47 am
I am definetly leaning toward firing Knapp…but I’m gonna wait to join the list. I think we gotta wait this one out to, at the very least, the first quarter of the season.
The Defense has given up 57 points.
I need more of a sample size before I give him the pink slip
September 17th, 2012 at 12:48 am
put me on the list armchair,Da pay attention,
knapp is crap!
September 17th, 2012 at 12:54 am
raidertalk SaysThe Raiders at (-30) currently have the the third worst point differential in the whole NFL ahead of only Tennessee (-49) and Kansas City (-34)///////////////////////////////There is always a positive.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:58 am
purvisman Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 12:54 am
raidertalk SaysThe Raiders at (-30) currently have the the third worst point differential in the whole NFL ahead of only Tennessee (-49) and Kansas City (-34)///////////////////////////////There is always a positive.
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We could kick their ass right now!Lol
September 17th, 2012 at 1:00 am
I remember my fellow Nationers booing that “game manager” QB Mcown, in favor of some guy with a J in his name to start after holding out his rookie season…
That whole ordeal taught me the important life leason of patience…lol
September 17th, 2012 at 1:03 am
Gotta agree with Bob about the line too,on paper looks upgraded but in reality it does’nt so far anyway.
September 17th, 2012 at 1:08 am
IN ONE OFFSEASON, UNDER GREG KNAPP’S SCHEME, DARREN MCFADDEN HAS GONE FROM BEING THE BEST BACK IN THE LEAGUE TO BEING ARGUABLY THE WORST!!! HE IS AVERAGING LESS THAT 2 YDS A CARRY!!!
We have to send a UNITED message that Dennis Allen and Greg Knapp’s CRONYISM and misplaced EGOTISM, is NOT more valuable than the PASSION, LOVE, and SUPPORT of the RAIDER NATION!!!
As a result…
J Raider started the OFFICIAL:
“FIRE”, “DEMOTE”, “RELIEVE OF PLAY CALLING DUTIES” GREG KNAPP” PETITION!!!
Whatever language you prefer makes no difference to me!!!
*J-Raider
*MonumentRaider
*EMRaiders
*JB
*Al_is_Theraiders
*Raiderimmortal
*Elraidmanhattan
*DKnight007
*Marks Hair
*ArmChairGM
*Stringer Bell
*Ooo0ooO
*RaidO
*Armond
*Drray
*RaiderDav
*RaiderO
*Raiderman99
*R8eray
*Dakota
*DJ Johnny
*Oakfoshow
*Guest123
*TxRaider210
*Turducken
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*mac
IT’S TIME TO LEAD A REVOLT AROUND HERE THE LIKES OF WHICH WE HAVEN’T SEEN SINCE PAUL REVERE AND GEORGE WASHINGTON!!!
September 17th, 2012 at 1:11 am
raidertalk Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 1:00 am
I remember my fellow Nationers booing that “game manager” QB Mcown, in favor of some guy with a J in his name to start after holding out his rookie season…
That whole ordeal taught me the important life leason of patience…lol
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The difference between that time and now is this:
We had no idea what Jamarcus Russell would be in the NFL. It was all speculation.
In this case we are not asking Greg Knapp to be replaced with an unknown, unproven commodity.
We are asking that he be replaced with Al Saunders, who was very successful last year and taught a scheme that Darren Mcfadden thrived in!
Totally different than the scenario that you referred to.
September 17th, 2012 at 1:12 am
Found a very interesting article, especially the paragraph im posting. Never heard of this guy and don’t know his credentials:
The Arizona Cardinal game saw the Raiders struggling to score 11 points in the first half with two of the points coming from a defensive safety. Greg Knapp has brought with him the zone blocking scheme for runs and during the game Carson Palmer wasn’t given a lot of freedom to call plays at the line of scrimmage. When the defense showed run blitzes, Knapp and Palmer didn’t call out of the play allowing the Cardinals defense to gang up on the running back. I don’t know how any running back can get any positive yardage when the opposing team knows exactly what you are going to run and you don’t try to change the play when you realize they know what you are doing. Steve Wisniewski recently quit as an assistant offensive line coach for the Raiders and most likely it was due to disagreements with Greg Knapp on how the offensive line needs to be run.
http://thepenaltyflagblog.com/raiders-offense-misses-hue-jackson
September 17th, 2012 at 1:14 am
raidertalk Says: That whole ordeal taught me the important life leason of patience…lol///////////////////////Patience /My dad tried to teach me that but he knew I was a natural born fisherman.
September 17th, 2012 at 1:17 am
To completely throw away what was working, in order to try and force feed the players a new system that clearly ISN’T working, makes no sense at all.
I hate to bring his name up…but to quote Randy Moss during his time here…
“There’s something fishy going on” in Alameda.
September 17th, 2012 at 1:17 am
ArmChair GM Says: We are asking that he be replaced with Al Saunders, who was very successful last year and taught a scheme that Darren Mcfadden thrived in!////////////////////Don’t know who you are responding to but I have to agree.
September 17th, 2012 at 1:19 am
My question is: What ever happened to that 7 million in cap space that we had? Did we use it all on that bakc up snapper Guess?
hhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmm…
September 17th, 2012 at 1:20 am
purvisman Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 1:17 am
ArmChair GM Says: We are asking that he be replaced with Al Saunders, who was very successful last year and taught a scheme that Darren Mcfadden thrived in!////////////////////Don’t know who you are responding to but I have to agree.
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I’m responding to Raidertalk who was comparing our fervor to replace Knapp with Saunders to the past, when several people wanted to replace Josh McCown with Jamarcus Russell.
I was explaining to him that the two situations are completely different. Not even close to being similar.
September 17th, 2012 at 1:21 am
“There’s something fishy going on.”
-Randy Moss when he was a Raider…
Never been more true than now…
September 17th, 2012 at 1:27 am
ArmChair, gotta agree that it looks like chit after two games, but after being a fan for years and years, I kinda feel like lets see if there can be progress down the line this season. I’ve grown tired of the revolving door at coach.
Also who knows maybe the Organization and/or Russell would have benefitted long term if he would have sat the bench that first year.
September 17th, 2012 at 1:32 am
I mean, Al Saunders might have to move in at some point if there is no improvment, but in reality what would that look like?
Would he
A) take over the play calling under this offensive scheme?
B) Have the offense do an in-season “about-face” and throw out the playbook, to replace it with Hue Jackson’s old book?
C) Bring his own play book in season?
The problem is that there are some new playas that don’t know Hue’s Book and they’ve been practicing Knapp’s book all year. There would have to be some issues there no?
September 17th, 2012 at 1:39 am
raidertalk Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 1:32 am
I mean, Al Saunders might have to move in at some point if there is no improvment, but in reality what would that look like?
Would he
A) take over the play calling under this offensive scheme?
B) Have the offense do an in-season “about-face” and throw out the playbook, to replace it with Hue Jackson’s old book?
C) Bring his own play book in season?
The problem is that there are some new playas that don’t know Hue’s Book and they’ve been practicing Knapp’s book all year. There would have to be some issues there no?
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I disagree. One of the main points of contention and jaw dropping disbelief about this whole situation is that the team is essentially the SAME as last season…
The O-line….Veldheer, Carlisle, Barksdale, Barnes, Wiz2 all started last year.
Mcfadden is healthy and flourished under that scheme. Denarius Moore and even DHB did well in that scheme.
That is what makes the current situation so sickening.
Let Saunders call the plays, bring back Wylie to coach the O-line and bring back Fassel on special teams…
What’s the worst that could happen…We lose a game???
Well we’re doing that anyway and in epic, embarrassing, form.
September 17th, 2012 at 1:44 am
So you guys expect us to get worse as the season goes along ??
September 17th, 2012 at 1:49 am
What the flip was the defense thinking? They couldn’t stop a cold! The beginning of the end as basement dwellers for this season. Time to fire the staff! At least HueJack had a better start then this clown! Get rid of Palmer and Leinart, now!! I’ve talked to several fans here in the DMV area, what a waste! Give it up for SPUDS, what a disaster in the making as GM!!! Win, not lose, dummy!
September 17th, 2012 at 2:15 am
I think someone needs to get our o-line on Adderall; fix the lack of focus and intensity in the trenches and booyah! 10-6
September 17th, 2012 at 2:33 am
McFadden is the best player on this team, we they better start blocking for him to run. I though we will be having the Texans potent offense.
The defense was atrocius yesterday: missed tackles, poor coverage, lack of pressure of the QB,… the DBs… no comment. I am very worried about our CB situation: Lee and Hanson couldnt do the job yesterday.
The missed tackles in their TE and R.Bush TDs sucked, your starting MLB and 8th overall draft pick CANNOT MISS THAT TACKLES!!!!!
September 17th, 2012 at 2:39 am
mcfadden20. Says:
So you guys expect us to get worse as the season goes along ??//////Went to see Jesse the jet Hester that we drafted instead of a slow wide receiver Al had his eye on name Jerry Rice,but Al would not have drafted a Jerry Rice cause he wasn’t a workout warrior. WRONG Al wanted Rice very much.
September 17th, 2012 at 2:42 am
papertiger418 Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 2:15 am
I think someone needs to get our o-line on Adderall; fix the lack of focus and intensity in the trenches and booyah! 10-6////////////////////////You on drugs?
September 17th, 2012 at 2:51 am
A punk on an attention deficit drug that couldn’t field his moms purse going down the street is recommending plays.
September 17th, 2012 at 2:55 am
Oh sch1t MR Sully is that you? Adderall? we will do our best to get it to you and Klas too
September 17th, 2012 at 3:05 am
papertiger418 Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 2:15 am
I think someone needs to get our o-line on Adderall; fix the lack of focus and intensity in the trenches and booyah! 10-6Just wanted to have it regj[istred as parrt of rhe sock puppet ae\rmy
September 17th, 2012 at 3:07 am
Good play MR ut most of it came through.
September 17th, 2012 at 3:12 am
That was an absymal mess.
-Special teams put the offense around the 5/10/15 on a regular basis.
-Palmer overthrew a few but he was running for his life most of the time and there were a few passes that hit receivers in the hand. If it hits you in the hands, you’re supposed to catch it.
-Damn near threw my bottle of beer at the tv on that first Miami drive since the defense appeared to be taking a nap. It was highly noticable that on the second Miami drive Seymour sat on the bench and the defense played better.
-The secondary is a joke.
Three things of many:
1. You don’t go through the pre-season with one center, use him in game one, and then switch centers for game two unless the guy is injured. It takes time for offensive lines to jell and the line that we had in pre-season got just two penalties.
2. I didn’t like Knapp’s play calling in 2007/08 and I still don’t fuk’n well like it. If you recall, Al actually went along with Cable replacing Knapp on play calling when he was here before. That has to tell us something.
3. A lot of the people coming on here screaming the sky is falling are the people who liked to think that we were superbowl bound. That’s kind of hard to do when you are in a rebuilding year with a new GM, new HC, new OC, new DC, and a relatively new QB.
September 17th, 2012 at 3:36 am
Dennis Allen is a b!tch knapp is a pvssy and this team is garbage. I’m done wasting time and energy on a sh!t football team. I didn’t like Allen from his inaugural presser, two times he was asked about his character and both times he had a tell like he doubted his answer. Go back and look if anyone cares. Fvck you Allen and knapp I can’t cheer for a team with such pathetic coaches in place.
September 17th, 2012 at 4:02 am
Like it or not, Knapp won’t be getting fired anytime soon.
No sense looking back, we have to move forward. The running game is the #1 problem with this team, with coaching adjustments, especially on defense, being #2.
We can beat Pittsburgh, they aren’t what they used to be.
September 17th, 2012 at 4:23 am
Khalif Barnes (groin injury)
Shawntae Spencer (sprained foot)
Ouch!!
I guess if there are any positives to take from this game, it’s that Adams is a solid punt returner & Goodson is our version of Darren Sproles
nice to have DMo17 & Condo back!
September 17th, 2012 at 4:26 am
Who in league is the best at a Red Zone offense? Run their tapes Knapp and see what they do, how they do it. Repeat as necessary!
September 17th, 2012 at 4:45 am
0-2 with Pittsburgh next,, what are the chances they put DVD in the game to make one of those revenge plays against us to rub salt in the wound? I’d take DVD over Hanson or Lee any day. These corners in Oakland give 12yd cushions for opposing Wrs.
No need to talk about how bad knapps zbs is anymore. Sundays game against Miami said everything that could possibly be said. Shall we start talking about April’s draft or should we wait a few more games?
September 17th, 2012 at 4:58 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 9:05 pm
Best thing in pro sports is to be really good or really bad.
Being stuck in the middle does you no good.
Look at the Colts, they have been awful like twice in 15 years, and got two franchise QB’s out of it.
We blew our chance at it in 2007.
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That’s crap. Maybe it’s harder when you don’t have that coveted number 1 pick that you HOPE will work out. But you can rise from mediocrity to greatness. Gruden did it before he was traded for a bag of balls and Hue may have done the same, if Al didn’t screw it up first. We probably should have been 10 and 6 last year.
So what r we stuck w now? A triumvirate of yahoos that wanna blow it up so they can fit our square peg players into their round hole schemes. Awesome. Just what we need. Rebuilding disguised as retooling. I feel cheated and lie to and ripped off. How much pain and humiliation r we suppose to take?
September 17th, 2012 at 4:59 am
Oh, an add me to the petition, for whatever that is worth. I doubt the triumvirate of yahoos will give a sh!t what we have to say. They r all SO FRIGGIN SMART!
September 17th, 2012 at 5:01 am
Had to stop drinking my beer after just 2 yesterday…. The Game and beer wasn’t a good mix yesterday….been at this a longtime … Hoping for an epic turnaround … Sigh….. Again…
September 17th, 2012 at 5:01 am
Raiderbuck Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 4:26 am
Who in league is the best at a Red Zone offense? Run their tapes Knapp and see what they do, how they do it. Repeat as necessary!
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They have players that make plays when given the opportunity.
This blog is home to officially the dumbest fans in sports. Im convinced.
You guys are so trained in the Al Davis way.
Reggie is to blame because he didnt mortgage the future even more and go sign another bust free agent.
The coaching staff is to blame because our players once again showed no heart and folded in the second half.
NONE of you are qualified to judge talent or break down a defense, yet you think you can just by looking at the raw numbers. If youre one of those people, consider yourself stupid as FVCK. Think about it again, you are literally judging people in a position that you have never done yourself and dont have the slightest clue on. That is the definition of stupidity.
The bottom line is that they made plays when put into position too. We found ways to drop passes in the red zone. Yet some of you want a system designed where DMC doesnt have to catch that ball and the OLine doesnt have to block for him the rest of the game.
Reggie Bush runs a 64 yard TD. The Dolphins dont commit a stupid penalty. We run two huge punts back, and our guys get called for penalties and its brought back. That is the difference between a winner and a loser. If you cant see that, you are dumb as hell.
Our players find ways to lose. Always have and always will until we turn over a new leaf.
The average so-called Raider fan here would rather lose the Raider way, then win by any means necessary.
The Raider way constitutes 40 yard bombs on first down and lord knows what other magic you guys expect out of our limited roster.
Sorry, this is the NFL. That crap doesnt work anymore.
Palmer isnt blaming the system. DMC isnt blaming the system. Yet you guys are. So if you disagree with DMC, you are dumb as FVCK.
The OLine is not doing their job. Its not because they are not capapble (tho that is debatable) it is because they are just getting beat off the ball like a bunch of pu55ies.
Teams know our OLine has no push. They will continue to key in on DMC. They will continue to give us the pass. And if we continue to drop passes and make mistakes, we will find ourselves down in the 2nd half where we will be in pass-only situations. And then our OLine really goes to work in trying to get Palmer killed.
But go ahead and blame a system you arent qualified to pick apart. If what Im saying here pisses you off, it is because the truth hurts.
Im done with this blog. I dont mind being around idiots. But this place takes it to another level. If I continue to sit here and try to convert the stubborn and dumb into educated and informed, then Im a idiot no different than the rest of you.
This transition to respectability is going to be tough for a lot of you to deal with. You think our 8-8 team last year should have been 10-6 when we easily could have been 4-12. I feel everyones pain. Im hurting just like the rest of you. But you wont see me boo’ing my coaching staff and causing a player revolt. We’ve tried that in years past and that got us what? Nothing.
Its time the players look themselves in the mirror and decide who they are.
They watch the film. And it doesnt lie. They know the mistakes they are making. The coaches are pointing it out. And for the first time in their careers, they dont have daddy Al to run too.
This team can turn it around at any point it wants. And it will. When it finally realizes Al is gone. They havent realized it. You guys still live in denial as well.
I hope Reggie stays the course and doesnt buckle to you jackals that plan on boo’ing our team off the field against Pitt. Cause Im sick of the losing attitudes. Im sick of Tommy Kelly whining about not knowing what happened. You know damn well what happened fat-boy. Your mates made Reggie Bush look like Earl Campbell on his first TD run. Your D-Line got just one sack on a rookie QB that wont win 4 games total this year. Our LBs were out of place and let them walk down our throats on the opening drive.
Cant convert on 3rd down? That is because on 3rd & 7, DHB runs a 5 yard route. And instead of just falling forward and easily picking up the next 6 feet needed, he dances around and two guys have the time to swarm him.
Lose field position, lose the turnover battle, and lose the penalty battle and you will never win more than you lose. Those are all player mistakes.
But keep ignoring it. Al did. So you will. It is what you are all conditioned to do so you will continue to do so. Boo our team and make the home field an away game and see just how fast Mark moves the Raiders to LA. Give him a reason to commit the treason, and he will do it.
Knuckleheads. All of you. But look at me, Im expecting a smarter player and smarter fanbase. I must not have been paying attention the last 30 years.
September 17th, 2012 at 5:10 am
Good morning losers. We are the losers of the world.
September 17th, 2012 at 5:14 am
Morning Klas. I’ll chat with you for a few, then I gotta run.
September 17th, 2012 at 5:16 am
Nice post Riff. Tell it like it is.
September 17th, 2012 at 5:17 am
Raiders gonna have to get rid of some more players before they get better.
September 17th, 2012 at 5:20 am
Reggie getting real chance to evaluate players now. Probably not liking what he sees.
September 17th, 2012 at 5:41 am
Absolutely shocking how badly the offense has regressed.
It’s truly hard to believe.
3 points in the 2nd half. SMH.
Greg Knapp has no business being an OC.
There were 3 prime examples of his incompetence today.
I’m talking about the THREE times the Raids wound up passing short of the first down marker on third down.
It’s the same crap from Knapp over and over and over.
The first instance to DHB was pretty bad,(at least he had a shot for getting the first) but the one that really ticked me off was this:
3-10-OAK20 (14:17) C.Palmer pass short left to B.Myers to OAK 24 for 4 yards (K.Dansby).
If you guys remember, this is almost the same exact play that gained 2 yards on 3rd and 3 against SD immediately preceding the first blocked punt.
Not even CLOSE to succeeding. A fckng 4 yard pass on 3rd and 10.
Absolute futility and inexcusable.
This came on the Raid first posession of the 2nd half.
You could have turned off your TV right then.
Can’t win games if you can’t score points – and you won’t score points if you run plays that have NO CHANCE of gaining a first down or sustaining a drive.
This isn’t anything new with Knapp. We’ve seen it over and over. It’s why he’s a POS OC and a loser.
Hard to believe we’re stuck with this turkey considering his track record and the fact that we already had to shtcan him once before.
As ticked off and disappointed as I am, I’ll still be here next week and hoping to knock the snot out of the Mules the week after that.
Ain’t throwing in the towel no matter how bad things look.
September 17th, 2012 at 5:44 am
RM99,
Are these your buddies?
http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/07/07/circumcision-ritual-under-fire-in-new-york-due-to-risk-of-herpes-infection/
September 17th, 2012 at 5:49 am
Build a Bully / and Put Your Pants / Code Black coming / Raiders got no chance
September 17th, 2012 at 5:50 am
JFB, you up yet in NM, brother ?
Wanted to know if the Slo-mania is still in full force.
Noticed some real bad stuff from your boy yesterday.
Saw a pretty pathetic WHIFF again…followed by another JOG a little later.
The JOG might be explainable dur to being gassed and Slo wasn’t going to catch the RB from behind–but there was a noticeable lack of effort and ‘quit’ on the play.
Am I wrong? Your thoughts ?
September 17th, 2012 at 5:55 am
Was it the Reggie Bush run on the jog?
Guy took out his legs, and he had no chance on the play, but when Slo jogs, it just looks reallly bad.
The whiff was on the TD pass, probably just delayed the inevitable. Tough play in space, but you would like to see the tackle made.
Slo-Mania is still in effect, he just got a chair to the head when the refs weren’t looking.
September 17th, 2012 at 5:57 am
Our offense (when moving obviously) does look polished and clean IMHO..I Think Knapp called a better game than against SD..He dialed up some vertical stuff (deep ins/curls/corners) that I really liked, and it resembled last year. And then…our drive gets killed and this is how..1) Incomplete pass 2nd & 10…Outside Zone right loss of 5 3&15…Miami blitzes palmer has no time dumps it down to a TE and they get 8..Punt Time..How do we fix this problem guys?? Does our O-line suck that bad? Because in the beginning of the year i really thought the O-line was one of our strengths but they’re getting pushed around!………..No big deal though..When looking at the schedule when it came out i said our first win would be against Pitt at home..hopefully we can TACKLE for 60 mintues!! Pat lee screwed us on the first Reggie TD RUN!! WE MUST TACKLE EVERY PLAY!!!!EVERY PLAY!!
September 17th, 2012 at 5:59 am
583.
I agree about the players. Don’t let them off the hook. They absolutely r not executing. And they of course r primarily to blame. They gave up yesterday. Seen it before and probably see it again.
And I’m willing to ride w Reggie and DA, said it in an earlier post, we don’t have a choice and certainly don’t make those decisions. But the rest of it smells like a ‘good ole boy’ setup. I still feel lied to, and cheated, by the players and the coaches. Why blow up the offense by bringing in knapp? Why blow up the special teams, our lone bright spot for a decade? And why push square peg players into round hole schemes when we have no money and r still short on draft picks to get the players we want to fit the scheme?
I am certainly not qualified to break down defenses and offensive schemes. I coach a lot of sports, but never football. But I’ve been around long enough to know two things.
1. You don’t have to fix what isn’t broken in a wholesale manner unless you r willing to risk complete disaster. And that seems like what we might have.
2.And your schemes need to fit your players, not the other way around. You can change the schemes, you can’t change ALL the players. Ask John Fox. Won with an inept QB last year by tailoring the scheme to the ineptness. Will win again this year, albeit with an obviously better QB, bringin in Peyton’s no huddle and all the other stuff. Broncos have had 3 “schemes” in two years and they look just fine.
September 17th, 2012 at 6:00 am
Riff, please don’t bother addressing me. You’re simply not worth my time. You don’t know anything about football and you know even less about most other aspects of life.
Just keep sticking your nose up Knapp’s anus and basking in the glory of your arrogance and ignorance.
That’s really all you bring to this forum.
September 17th, 2012 at 6:02 am
I have been saying this since 2003. We have neglected our lines in the draft and we have paid the price.
When I say neglected, I mean that we have not invested first and second round picks in the lines any where near enough to be competitive.
The game is won/lost on the line of scrimmage. End of discussion.
Reggie will use this strategy but it will take time.
There is a reason Dennis Allen has a four year contract.
Lets review relative to real NFL caliber competition:
Veldheer: C+ and getting better
Carlisle: D way past his prime.
Wiz: C Injuries have hampered development
Brisiel: C Do you think Houston lets a good player walk?
Barnes: D Remember how we got him? See Brisiel comment
Houston: C and developing
Seymour: D Nothing left. Bad deal. See Brisiel comment
Tolleffson: C Do you think the Giants let a good player walk?
Shaugnessy: C One dimensional
Kelly: D poor value relative to salary. Inconsistent
Until the line mess gets fixed, you can not properly evaluate the rest of our team. The way we have had to scramble at the cut down date to get players let’s you know how bad we are. Long way to go.
September 17th, 2012 at 6:03 am
Mornin’ a.m. crew.
Lots to talk about today and none of it good.
September 17th, 2012 at 6:05 am
My issue with Knapp is his complete lack of imagination.
No packages for Pryor. Reece is barely used except as a traditional fullback. Etc etc etc.
September 17th, 2012 at 6:06 am
The whiff was on the TD pass, probably just delayed the inevitable. Tough play in space, but you would like to see the tackle made.
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McClain’s been better this year, but this is the guy who couldn’t tackle Matthew Stafford in space. If you can’t do that, I’m not sure you can tackle anyone in the open field.
September 17th, 2012 at 6:06 am
Charlie Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 6:02 am
I have been saying this since 2003. We have neglected our lines in the draft and we have paid the price.
When I say neglected, I mean that we have not invested first and second round picks in the lines any where near enough to be competitive.
The game is won/lost on the line of scrimmage. End of discussion.
Reggie will use this strategy but it will take time.
There is a reason Dennis Allen has a four year contract.
Lets review relative to real NFL caliber competition:
Veldheer: C+ and getting better
Carlisle: D way past his prime.
Wiz: C Injuries have hampered development
Brisiel: C Do you think Houston lets a good player walk?
Barnes: D Remember how we got him? See Brisiel comment
Houston: C and developing
Seymour: D Nothing left. Bad deal. See Brisiel comment
Tolleffson: C Do you think the Giants let a good player walk?
Shaugnessy: C One dimensional
Kelly: D poor value relative to salary. Inconsistent
Until the line mess gets fixed, you can not properly evaluate the rest of our team. The way we have had to scramble at the cut down date to get players let’s you know how bad we are. Long way to go.
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My thoughts exactly, we wouldn’t be talking about how bad knapp is if we had guys who could run the scheme…Samson Satele and Gallery come back!!! LOL
September 17th, 2012 at 6:07 am
RM99,
Youre a degenerate gambler that condones the sucking off of little boys.
If I was someone you liked or respected, I’d have serious doubts about myself.
September 17th, 2012 at 6:08 am
Not sure if it was RBush, but he turned the corner and was going up the right sideline. Slo had no chance of catching him, but he didn’t even try. The jog and quit was plain to see.
Don’t know how he whiffed so badly on the TD pass. Not like the TE put any sort of move on. He was almost stationary when he made the catch. Slo didn’t even touch him.
September 17th, 2012 at 6:09 am
I’m a big Richard Seymour fan, but that bum knee of his has ended his usefulness. If a DT–particularly one that rushes the passer primarily–can’t fire off the snap, then he’s useless.
Weak free agent crop coming up to fill any holes too. Reggie and the scouts can’t afford to make a single misstep in the upcoming 2 or 3 drafts.
Gonna be a long few seasons.
September 17th, 2012 at 6:09 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 6:05 am
My issue with Knapp is his complete lack of imagination.
No packages for Pryor. Reece is barely used except as a traditional fullback. Etc etc etc.
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Yep, we need more gimmick packages. That’ll fix things.
September 17th, 2012 at 6:09 am
Sign me uP for the fire knapp petition please. Pat lee exposed as I call a few days ago. This “team” is terrible.
September 17th, 2012 at 6:09 am
Raider Riff Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 5:01 am
Raiderbuck Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 4:26 am
Who in league is the best at a Red Zone offense? Run their tapes Knapp and see what they do, how they do it. Repeat as necessary!
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They have players that make plays when given the opportunity.
This blog is home to officially the dumbest fans in sports. Im convinced.
You guys are so trained in the Al Davis way.
Reggie is to blame because he didnt mortgage the future even more and go sign another bust free agent.
The coaching staff is to blame because our players once again showed no heart and folded in the second half.
NONE of you are qualified to judge talent or break down a defense, yet you think you can just by looking at the raw numbers. If youre one of those people, consider yourself stupid as FVCK. Think about it again, you are literally judging people in a position that you have never done yourself and dont have the slightest clue on. That is the definition of stupidity.
The bottom line is that they made plays when put into position too. We found ways to drop passes in the red zone. Yet some of you want a system designed where DMC doesnt have to catch that ball and the OLine doesnt have to block for him the rest of the game.
Reggie Bush runs a 64 yard TD. The Dolphins dont commit a stupid penalty. We run two huge punts back, and our guys get called for penalties and its brought back. That is the difference between a winner and a loser. If you cant see that, you are dumb as hell.
Our players find ways to lose. Always have and always will until we turn over a new leaf.
The average so-called Raider fan here would rather lose the Raider way, then win by any means necessary.
The Raider way constitutes 40 yard bombs on first down and lord knows what other magic you guys expect out of our limited roster.
Sorry, this is the NFL. That crap doesnt work anymore.
Palmer isnt blaming the system. DMC isnt blaming the system. Yet you guys are. So if you disagree with DMC, you are dumb as FVCK.
The OLine is not doing their job. Its not because they are not capapble (tho that is debatable) it is because they are just getting beat off the ball like a bunch of pu55ies.
Teams know our OLine has no push. They will continue to key in on DMC. They will continue to give us the pass. And if we continue to drop passes and make mistakes, we will find ourselves down in the 2nd half where we will be in pass-only situations. And then our OLine really goes to work in trying to get Palmer killed.
But go ahead and blame a system you arent qualified to pick apart. If what Im saying here pisses you off, it is because the truth hurts.
Im done with this blog. I dont mind being around idiots. But this place takes it to another level. If I continue to sit here and try to convert the stubborn and dumb into educated and informed, then Im a idiot no different than the rest of you.
This transition to respectability is going to be tough for a lot of you to deal with. You think our 8-8 team last year should have been 10-6 when we easily could have been 4-12. I feel everyones pain. Im hurting just like the rest of you. But you wont see me boo’ing my coaching staff and causing a player revolt. We’ve tried that in years past and that got us what? Nothing.
Its time the players look themselves in the mirror and decide who they are.
They watch the film. And it doesnt lie. They know the mistakes they are making. The coaches are pointing it out. And for the first time in their careers, they dont have daddy Al to run too.
This team can turn it around at any point it wants. And it will. When it finally realizes Al is gone. They havent realized it. You guys still live in denial as well.
I hope Reggie stays the course and doesnt buckle to you jackals that plan on boo’ing our team off the field against Pitt. Cause Im sick of the losing attitudes. Im sick of Tommy Kelly whining about not knowing what happened. You know damn well what happened fat-boy. Your mates made Reggie Bush look like Earl Campbell on his first TD run. Your D-Line got just one sack on a rookie QB that wont win 4 games total this year. Our LBs were out of place and let them walk down our throats on the opening drive.
Cant convert on 3rd down? That is because on 3rd & 7, DHB runs a 5 yard route. And instead of just falling forward and easily picking up the next 6 feet needed, he dances around and two guys have the time to swarm him.
Lose field position, lose the turnover battle, and lose the penalty battle and you will never win more than you lose. Those are all player mistakes.
But keep ignoring it. Al did. So you will. It is what you are all conditioned to do so you will continue to do so. Boo our team and make the home field an away game and see just how fast Mark moves the Raiders to LA. Give him a reason to commit the treason, and he will do it.
Knuckleheads. All of you. But look at me, Im expecting a smarter player and smarter fanbase. I must not have been paying attention the last 30 years.
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I think you may need to look in the mirror..how do you know for sure DHB ran a 5 yd out on 3rd and 7 bc maybe thats called for in Knapps system. It doesnt take a brain surgeon or even a nfl coach to see that Dmac is a shell of himself in Knapps system. Dmac is not effective in the ZBS , but we did not hire a staff who was willing to try to use a system that dmac shines in. that is their choice and we as fans get to voice our approval or disapproval at the results. Reggie brought in 22 new faces and according to many of his supporters it was going to change the culture. It doesnt look any better to me and as a loyal fan here is what i have had to endure and I will not blindly trust in a non proven gm.
Reggie cuts Wimbley after not convincing him to restructure, Wimbley was our only speed rusher and Reggie did not replace his speed on the edge which has hurt us. Reggie in a very deep FA market for cbs brings in bartell who has injury issues and hasnt had an int since 2008 and spencer whoi hasnt had more than 4 ints ina yr doing his 9 years. Bartell is already on the shelf for half a season and the other clowns Reggie got cheap just got torched by a rookie QB who is not that good. Reggie also is the gm who didnt have a back up long snapper on the roster. How did they work out. Reggie is also the gm who got rid of chaz and murphy and did nothing when Moore and Ford were out almost the entire preseason and we were force to start an undrafted WR, who set the tone for the first game by fumbling in SD territory.
Its one thing to come in here and say Reggie has made mistakes and give him a chance. but too call everyone an idiot who sees the obvious: Knapp remains a loser as an OC and under Reggie’s guidance this previous 8-8 team has not only taken a step back but looks like a 2-14 team.
September 17th, 2012 at 6:09 am
we beat pitt in the coliseum sunday we can still go 7-9/8-8
September 17th, 2012 at 6:09 am
My issue with Knapp is his complete lack of imagination.
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Yup, I have zero issues with the ZBS. In fact, you look at some of the pass plays in the 2nd half, where we ran off PA, the defense is selling so hard on stopping the run, Palmer wouldn’t have anyone NEAR him in the pocket.
But no reverses, no quick throws to WR’s or Reece, but plenty of quick throws to our Gordon and Myers. Not much misdirection if any at all. No TP in goalline sets or in general.
I hope he doesn’t think he is going to stretch-play Pittsburgh to death, lol.
September 17th, 2012 at 6:11 am
Offense:
Terrelle Pryor
Jared Veldheer
Stefen Wisniewski
Denarius Moore
Darrius Heyward-Bey
Darren McFadden
Marcel Reece
Defense:
Lamarr Houston
Matt Shaughnessy
Desmond Bryant
Phil Wheeler
Miles Burris
The above are the list of non-rookies I think are worth keeping and trying to build a team around. Everyone else needs traded/cut at the end of the year.
If you’re gonna blow it up, then blow it up.
September 17th, 2012 at 6:11 am
The Raiders’ zone scheme is incurring the wrath of the fan base and not without justification. Darren McFadden has 26 rushes for 54 yards in two games. Say what you will about Hue Jackson, but he was the one who rebuilt McFadden’s confidence and got him going. Greg Knapp has a lot of work to do in that regard.
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You know we’re in trouble with Knapp when even Jerry Mac is going in on him.
September 17th, 2012 at 6:13 am
Tollefson has more QB hurries (3) than Wimbley (2) right now, and is behind Wimbley by .5 of a sack.
September 17th, 2012 at 6:13 am
Gregg Knapp sucks, theres no way around it. The system was working last year considering we lost dmc, a qb with no camp and the great al davis. So what does this dumbfvck do? Changes it! Lets go back to the very system, that i got fired for running so bad the first time i was here. Not saying zbs dosnt work, im saying it dont work with this roster and more importantly this idiot knapp. I truely hate the fvcking stealers ,but in saying that when they hired mike tomlin who is a 4-3 guy, did he come in and say ” sorry d.lebeau i know your system is working but, were going to switch anyway” fvck u knapp i hope u burn in hell phaggot
September 17th, 2012 at 6:14 am
Where the hell was Seymore and Kelly? Sho’Nasty showed up for a bit, then they keyed on him and he disappeared. It should have freed someone else on the line. Seymore and Kelly make WAY too much money.
September 17th, 2012 at 6:15 am
I hope he doesn’t think he is going to stretch-play Pittsburgh to death, lol.
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I watched Cable try to make that happen live in the 2010 Heinz Field Horror Show. Top 3 worst day as a Raiders fan. It’ll be the same result again.
Useful point about having no one near Palmer too. Palmer’s had some pretty good protection, Barnes’s meltdown late in the game against SD notwithstanding.
September 17th, 2012 at 6:16 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 6:09 am
My issue with Knapp is his complete lack of imagination.
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Yup, I have zero issues with the ZBS. In fact, you look at some of the pass plays in the 2nd half, where we ran off PA, the defense is selling so hard on stopping the run, Palmer wouldn’t have anyone NEAR him in the pocket.
But no reverses, no quick throws to WR’s or Reece, but plenty of quick throws to our Gordon and Myers. Not much misdirection if any at all. No TP in goalline sets or in general.
I hope he doesn’t think he is going to stretch-play Pittsburgh to death, lol.
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No reverses? I wonder why.
No quick passes to the WRs? Um, what about the one to DHB where he got shoe string tackled instead of taking it to the house.
September 17th, 2012 at 6:16 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 6:11 am
Offense:
Terrelle Pryor
Jared Veldheer
Stefen Wisniewski
Denarius Moore
Darrius Heyward-Bey
Darren McFadden
Marcel Reece
Defense:
Lamarr Houston
Matt Shaughnessy
Desmond Bryant
Phil Wheeler
Miles Burris
The above are the list of non-rookies I think are worth keeping and trying to build a team around. Everyone else needs traded/cut at the end of the year.
If you’re gonna blow it up, then blow it up.
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Spot on.
September 17th, 2012 at 6:18 am
Sure the ZBS ‘CAN’ work. The issue that needs to be addressed is why it ISN’T working for us.
Wrong personnel ? Wrong teachers ? Combination of both ?
Bottom line is it’s NOT working.
We’re not scoring and it doesn’t look likely to turn around.
Something’s got to give. Can’t continue on this way.
September 17th, 2012 at 6:18 am
LOL, Riff, we agree on something!
September 17th, 2012 at 6:19 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 6:11 am
Offense:
Terrelle Pryor
Jared Veldheer
Stefen Wisniewski
Denarius Moore
Darrius Heyward-Bey
Darren McFadden
Marcel Reece
Defense:
Lamarr Houston
Matt Shaughnessy
Desmond Bryant
Phil Wheeler
Miles Burris
The above are the list of non-rookies I think are worth keeping and trying to build a team around. Everyone else needs traded/cut at the end of the year.
If you’re gonna blow it up, then blow it up.
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Good point, blow it the F up..However, i think DA and RM will trade DMAC after this season..We’ll pick up or draft some no name to run the ZBS..thats what it was meant for anyway, mediocre RBS to do great…I just dont know how it works!!! We better keep passing cuz running the ball is almost a 2yd waste at this point..
September 17th, 2012 at 6:21 am
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 6:18 am
Sure the ZBS ‘CAN’ work. The issue that needs to be addressed is why it ISN’T working for us.
Wrong personnel ? Wrong teachers ? Combination of both ?
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Both.
Big issue right now is guards in terms of personnel. Carlisle is FINISHED. Brisiel has been a horrible bust of a FA signing. Veldheer & Wiz are good enough to run any scheme. Barnes is Barnes and I hope he can be upgraded.
As for coaching, Frank Pollack looks like a disaster so far. Enough has been said about Knapp.
As JFB says, the ZBS can and does work. I just think Knapp and Pollack are not the guys to run it here and Carlisle and Brisiel are more hindrance than help at this point.
September 17th, 2012 at 6:22 am
Hahah, just realized I listed Burris as a non-rookie. Whatever, point still stands. Keep him too!
DA was right, he’s a work in progress. But one that’s headed in the right direction
September 17th, 2012 at 6:23 am
Raiderman99, are you really pedophile like Riff says?
September 17th, 2012 at 6:23 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 6:23 am
Raiderman99, are you really pedophile like Riff says?
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I didnt say he was one. I said he condones it.
September 17th, 2012 at 6:24 am
We’ll pick up or draft some no name to run the ZBS..thats what it was meant for anyway, mediocre RBS to do great
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Good point.
How many no-name d!ckhead RBs did the Shanarat transform into 1000 yard rushers with the ZBS. And he looks to be doing it again in Washington with some guy named Alfred Morris. Who? Exactly.
Smartest thing Arian Foster ever did was re-up in Houston. Not sure he’d be half as good elsewhere.
September 17th, 2012 at 6:24 am
http://www.raiders.com/media-vault/videos/Raiders-Introduce-Allen-as-Head-Coach/c66de533-4a49-46de-9a82-32c9a28cd1c6
Go to 26:50 and see Allen show his “tell” like a bad poker player. I mentioned it here at the time but forgot about it over the summer and after LOTS of kool aid.
Allen is a weasel and I don’t like him or his bum buddy krapp.
September 17th, 2012 at 6:25 am
Good Morning Nation!
What a very bad day for Oakland yesterday!
September 17th, 2012 at 6:25 am
I can’t figure Shaughnessy out.
He was absolutely ineffective against a no-name UDFA rookie against SD.
Yet going up against one of the game’s best left tackles in Jake Long he had 4 tackles, 1 sack, 2 TFL and a QB hit.
September 17th, 2012 at 6:26 am
IN ONE OFFSEASON, UNDER GREG KNAPP’S SCHEME, DARREN MCFADDEN HAS GONE FROM BEING THE BEST BACK IN THE LEAGUE TO BEING ARGUABLY THE WORST!!! HE IS AVERAGING LESS THAT 2 YDS A CARRY!!!
We have to send a UNITED message that Dennis Allen and Greg Knapp’s CRONYISM and misplaced EGOTISM, is NOT more valuable than the PASSION, LOVE, and SUPPORT of the RAIDER NATION!!!
As a result…
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IT’S TIME TO LEAD A REVOLT AROUND HERE THE LIKES OF WHICH WE HAVEN’T SEEN SINCE PAUL REVERE AND GEORGE WASHINGTON!!!
September 17th, 2012 at 6:27 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 6:24 am
We’ll pick up or draft some no name to run the ZBS..thats what it was meant for anyway, mediocre RBS to do great
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Good point.
How many no-name d!ckhead RBs did the Shanarat transform into 1000 yard rushers with the ZBS. And he looks to be doing it again in Washington with some guy named Alfred Morris. Who? Exactly.
Smartest thing Arian Foster ever did was re-up in Houston. Not sure he’d be half as good elsewhere.
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DMC is a ZBS RB. Its what he came from in college.
The problem is likely with our guards as you pointed out. They have to buck up. Maybe they cant.
Switching to a power scheme wont help. We go power and the defense will be allowed to do more with their LBs in the way of protecting the pass.
We have to execute in the passing game and make them back off the run. Until then, our guards are going to continue to be overmatched.
September 17th, 2012 at 6:27 am
Raider Riff Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 6:23 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 6:23 am
Raiderman99, are you really pedophile like Riff says?
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I didnt say he was one. I said he condones it.
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Oh, ok.
September 17th, 2012 at 6:28 am
Calling gregg knapp ,please report to the fanbase for your ‘ hotboxing’
September 17th, 2012 at 6:29 am
I just dont understand why we have to be ZBS exclusively!!!! Mix it up! Whats the point dammit!! There is no word in the book that can describe this amount of frustration! And to RAIDERRIFF I do agree with you to a point! Have we started one drive at our own 40 or better this year?! Every drive we start is at our own 10!!!! And that is the penalties and players..Like HUGH SAID AT THE END OF THE YEAR (and throughout the year) there comes a time when a group of men have to say NO MORE! It’s up to the players to tackle REGGIE BUSH at the line (Pat lee) when you have a clean shot at his 5′10 190lb a$$!! OUR DEFENSE CAN NOT PLAY A 60 MINUTE GAME PERIOD!! AND THATS WHY WE WONT WIN UNTIL WE HAVE GUYS THAT ARE HUNGRY!!
September 17th, 2012 at 6:29 am
This is one of the most, if not “THE” most, bland, vanilla, boring, heartless Offenses I have ever seen. No imagination what so ever, I actually forgot why I hated Knapp so much and now i remember why.
We have so many playmakers and this joker doesn’t have the brains to get them all involved.
This Offense is a complete joke, I’d be surprised if we won 1 game this year.
September 17th, 2012 at 6:30 am
I bet if DMac was running in Packer ZBS he would tear up the league.
September 17th, 2012 at 6:30 am
Jimmyball12 Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 6:29 am
I just dont understand why we have to be ZBS exclusively!!!! Mix it up! Whats the point dammit!! There is no word in the book that can describe this amount of frustration! And to RAIDERRIFF I do agree with you to a point! Have we started one drive at our own 40 or better this year?! Every drive we start is at our own 10!!!! And that is the penalties and players..Like HUGH SAID AT THE END OF THE YEAR (and throughout the year) there comes a time when a group of men have to say NO MORE! It’s up to the players to tackle REGGIE BUSH at the line (Pat lee) when you have a clean shot at his 5′10 190lb a$$!! OUR DEFENSE CAN NOT PLAY A 60 MINUTE GAME PERIOD!! AND THATS WHY WE WONT WIN UNTIL WE HAVE GUYS THAT ARE HUNGRY!!
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Our average start yesterday was from our own 13 yard line. I cant remember if that was just the first half or the whole game. But it wasnt good regardless.
September 17th, 2012 at 6:31 am
What up NATION?
September 17th, 2012 at 6:31 am
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 6:30 am
I bet if DMac was running in Packer ZBS he would tear up the league.
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That is because Rogers rarely misses throws and their WRs dont fvck up.
Palmer missed some gimmes yesterday that would have changed the game. Im not hating on the guy, but he had a off day.
September 17th, 2012 at 6:32 am
It’s gonna be a long haul of a season boys, buckle up… it’s going to get real rocky.
I bet Hue is laughing his arse off right about now.
What a joke.
September 17th, 2012 at 6:32 am
If McFadden continues to play like he is, whether his fault or not, there will be little value for him in a trade.
Is there any RB’s that have been traded lately, for any value?
Hell, Marshall Faulk was fresh off a 2,000 yards for scrimmage season, missed 1 game in 5 years, and was traded for a mid 2nd rounder.
September 17th, 2012 at 6:32 am
Carson Palmer = Jeff George
Good Stats no results
September 17th, 2012 at 6:32 am
FIRE GREG KNAPP!
September 17th, 2012 at 6:33 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 6:25 am
I can’t figure out.
He was absolutely ineffective against a no-name UDFA rookie against SD.
Yet going up against one of the game’s best left tackles in Jake Long he had 4 tackles, 1 sack, 2 TFL and a QB hit.
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Shaughnessy, had not seen real action after being injured for the better part of last year.
He has not played a lot of football.
He is starting to get his game legs under him.
He will continue to improve.
September 17th, 2012 at 6:33 am
RaiderRif: Way to call it like it is! I’ll add just one thing that should be added to your list: DA needs to make these players responsible for dumb plays. Last week TK makes two stupid plays that put points on the board for the Chargers and he’s taken out for a handful of plays, you know what sit him for the rest of the half. The only thing you have any control of with these primadonnas is their playing time, so use the stick effectively and send them the right message: get it together or go collect splinters in your butt. RR you need to keep blogging in here to balance all the knuckleheads that are on here all day long.
September 17th, 2012 at 6:33 am
I see you are still blaming the players and ignoring history/ facts.
Good luck with that.
I wonder why a few people here predicted a low scoring offense when we hired Knapp? They must have special pshycic powers.
Monkeys!
September 17th, 2012 at 6:33 am
Thec Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 6:31 am
What up NATION?
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Hey Thec.
Give us something encouraging this morning please.
September 17th, 2012 at 6:33 am
Riff and Jimmyball have raised the point but it bears repeating: Hoffman’s special teams is KILLING the Raiders. Hard for any team and any scheme to win when starting at their own 25 seems like a big deal.
On the bright side, Philip Adams just might be a keeper as a returner.
September 17th, 2012 at 6:33 am
Just Fire Baby, whats good Bruh. I should not have let you pick the game however, congrats on getting square.
September 17th, 2012 at 6:34 am
Nyraider Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 6:32 am
Carson Palmer = Jeff George
Good Stats no results
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Jeff George could read D’s as good as any in league history. And there wasnt a throw he couldnt make.
His problem was leadership. CP3 doesnt have a leadership problem, yet. He needs to grab his guys by the facemask and lay into them tho.
September 17th, 2012 at 6:35 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 6:33 am
Riff and Jimmyball have raised the point but it bears repeating: Hoffman’s special teams is KILLING the Raiders. Hard for any team and any scheme to win when starting at their own 25 seems like a big deal.
On the bright side, Philip Adams just might be a keeper as a returner.
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Hoffman had a bounce back game. Those two holding plays were huge in killing our field position. I dont know if I want to blame Hoffman for the holds.
September 17th, 2012 at 6:36 am
Riff and Jimmyball have raised the point but it bears repeating: Hoffman’s special teams is KILLING the Raiders. Hard for any team and any scheme to win when starting at their own 25 seems like a big deal.
On the bright side, Philip Adams just might be a keeper as a returner.
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Adams catching the ball at the 2 and fair catching at the 5 is part of the problem
September 17th, 2012 at 6:36 am
Raiderjhawk Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 6:32 am
FIRE GREG KNAPP!
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
It’s not his fault! He had bad talent/ players on 4 different teams. Blame them!
September 17th, 2012 at 6:36 am
Adams catching the ball at the 2 and fair catching at the 5 is part of the problem
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Coach him out of those bonehead mistakes. That comes with experience.
September 17th, 2012 at 6:37 am
DJ Johnny Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 6:33 am
Thec Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 6:31 am
What up NATION?
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Hey Thec.
Give us something encouraging this morning please.
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whats good Bretheren??? We have 14 games to go. I for one am not in panic mode.
Team has some issues however, they can be corrected if the coaching staff is willing to do so.
Coaches have to coach, put the team in a postion to be successful.
Players have to execute.
This team has not mailed it in.
I expect we will see a much better showing this week.
September 17th, 2012 at 6:38 am
Season basically over after just two weeks. Now it’s time to pick my “other” teams to watch. We’ve all been there…every yr. I hate to use the term “root” for but you guys know what I mean. Like when u have to pick a team you’d rather see win in the SB each yr.?
It ususally is me rooting “against” certain teams than “for” others.
September 17th, 2012 at 6:38 am
Raider Riff Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 6:34 am
Nyraider Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 6:32 am
Carson Palmer = Jeff George
Good Stats no results
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Jeff George could read D’s as good as any in league history. And there wasnt a throw he couldnt make.
His problem was leadership. CP3 doesnt have a leadership problem, yet. He needs to grab his guys by the facemask and lay into them tho.
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really …Jeff George had a horrible W-L percentage..he was all ARM no substance..
September 17th, 2012 at 6:39 am
3-10-OAK20 (14:17) C.Palmer pass short left to B.Myers to OAK 24 for 4 yards (K.Dansby).
The genius of Greg Knapp !!
Read it again, gents :
3-10-OAK20 (14:17) C.Palmer pass short left to B.Myers to OAK 24 for 4 yards (K.Dansby).
JHill made an intereting comment regarding Krapp’s insistence on throwing short of the chains on 3rd down and hoping that YAC will get the first down.
JHill said that throwing short of the sticks happens alot in the NFL. He said the difference is other teams and players are making plays after the catch.
JHill is a sharp guy and he’s correct about this.
What makes Knapp’s decision to throw short of the chains in this instance inexcusable, is that he’s asking BMyers to gain YAC when he’s not even moving vertically when the catch is made. There is no fcking way in the world that’s going to work.
Not a chance in the world. Might as well just punt on third down.
That’s why Greg Knapp is a POS OC and anyone defending his play calling is absolutely clueless.
This is a completely different issue than the ZBS debate.
3-10-OAK20 (14:17) C.Palmer pass short left to B.Myers to OAK 24 for 4 yards (K.Dansby).
Unfkngblvble. You can NOT win with play calls like this. End of story.
September 17th, 2012 at 6:39 am
Thec,
You could have optioned to another game I guess, but that was the closest matchup of the afternoon games, IMO.
LOL at that Morgan kid rifling the ball at Finnegan. What a moron
September 17th, 2012 at 6:40 am
I do not beleive the season is over.
14 games left, anything can happen over that period.
September 17th, 2012 at 6:41 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 6:39 am
Thec,
You could have optioned to another game I guess, but that was the closest matchup of the afternoon games, IMO.
LOL at that Morgan kid rifling the ball at Finnegan. What a moron
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that was a Raider move for sure…lol
Good call on you’re part, again congrats.
September 17th, 2012 at 6:41 am
Give us something encouraging this morning please.
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We scored I think 6 points through 2 games in 2006, were the worst Raider team in NFL history, and beat the Steelers at home with Andrew Walter.
Of course the offense was miserable that day as well, and got 4 or 5 INT’s.
September 17th, 2012 at 6:43 am
Raider Riff Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 6:30 am
Jimmyball12 Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 6:29 am
I just dont understand why we have to be ZBS exclusively!!!! Mix it up! Whats the point dammit!! There is no word in the book that can describe this amount of frustration! And to RAIDERRIFF I do agree with you to a point! Have we started one drive at our own 40 or better this year?! Every drive we start is at our own 10!!!! And that is the penalties and players..Like HUGH SAID AT THE END OF THE YEAR (and throughout the year) there comes a time when a group of men have to say NO MORE! It’s up to the players to tackle REGGIE BUSH at the line (Pat lee) when you have a clean shot at his 5′10 190lb a$$!! OUR DEFENSE CAN NOT PLAY A 60 MINUTE GAME PERIOD!! AND THATS WHY WE WONT WIN UNTIL WE HAVE GUYS THAT ARE HUNGRY!!
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Our average start yesterday was from our own 13 yard line. I cant remember if that was just the first half or the whole game. But it wasnt good regardless.
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Agreed! We were in the game until LEE(who really did cost us the game smh) missed an easy tackle on Reggie bush(which started a domino of missed tackles by huff/branch?Mcclain?)…With all the crap we have been talking about knapp, this offense is just a few plays off..the passing game is better now, it’s not doing the job inside the 20’s BUT..from the SD game to MIA game the passing game got better/more confident..I was happy with how aggressive knapp was being…PALMER MISSED THAT SKINNY POST TO DMOORE THAT COULD HAVE BEEN 6..(ouch)..but the common denominator in this whole thing RRIFF is that WE CANT RUN THE BALLLLLLLL!!!! I’m not saying that DMAC isnt a square peg in a round whole with the ZBS butt..knapps gotta know what he has!! JUST ASK DMAC WHAT HE LIKES TO RUN AND RUN IT!!!!!Of course you can mix in ZBS but dammit it kills drives!! It’s either a 2 yd run or a blown up 6 yd loss!! I hate the idea of going lateral to get yds i hate it!! Send DMAC up the gut, he gets passed the 2nd level makes a cut to the outside and its over!! Just watch the tape of what HUE did(hue mixed ZBS in with his power stuff)…….Hopefully they prove me wrong next week against PITT, but I highly doubt it. Pitt will eat up the ZBS….I just hope DMOORE/DHB can make enough plays for us early on to MAAAAYBE pull some guys out of the box for DMAC..
September 17th, 2012 at 6:43 am
Guys. The reason it looks like we are inconsistent is because we face injured or undermanned opposing lines that occasionally make us look good and allow some guys to pad stats.
My post on 597 IS the problem.
When we face solid NFL lines we get crushed. Embarrassed. End of mystery.
Until the lines get fixed everything else is BS.
Sorry for the reality check.
September 17th, 2012 at 6:44 am
Thec, Thanks, but why do we see the same “issues’ we’ve seen for years? The lack of tackling…not stopping the run despite change of schemes and new DC etc.?
Tyvon Branch sure as hel does not look like pro bowl prospect either.
DA said team will get “a little better each day”. They regressed from week 1.
September 17th, 2012 at 6:44 am
DJ Johnny Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 6:38 am
Season basically over after just two weeks. Now it’s time to pick my “other” teams to watch. We’ve all been there…every yr. I hate to use the term “root” for but you guys know what I mean. Like when u have to pick a team you’d rather see win in the SB each yr.?
It ususally is me rooting “against” certain teams than “for” others.
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Have fun watching other teams. But be careful, it will show you what a real team is supposed to look like. You’ll come back to the Raiders expecting a lot more out of our “athletes”.
September 17th, 2012 at 6:45 am
Summary of thoughts on Knapp’s situation:
Many–most–of us might want him fired. Realistically, though, that’s a conversation for the offseason. He’s not going anywhere for the next 14 games.
Look at it this way: through OTAs, minicamps, training camps and game week practices, the team has had Knapp’s system drilled into their heads. They’ve only been working with his philosophy. They know his plays and his terminology.
Does anyone really think it’s possible to toss Knapp out on his ear and install Saunders? Let’s say you do it after the Denver game. Could a whole team really learn a new philosophy/new plays/new terminology in 2 weeks then travel on the road to play a tough Atlanta team and NOT encounter disaster?
Stripping Knapp of his playcalling duties is a less extreme option but I’m not sure that’d do either. Cable was an offensive guy and could call his own plays. Allen is a defensive guy. Saunders isn’t a ZBS/WCO guy so I really don’t think he’d be an effective play calling strategist.
Take a deep breath and face facts, Nation: Greg Knapp is the guy this season. Allen hired him. Allen belives in the ZBS/WCO. McKenzie has made it clear the head coach has full authority over his assistants. Mark Davis isn’t a hands on owner like his dad. There’s simply no one who CAN fire Knapp who WILL do so.
I don’t like it, but as John Adams once said “facts are stubborn things.” Letting Knapp go now would just make things worse.
Now, if it’s January and the team has limped to a 5-11 finish….then bring me your Fire Knapp petition. I’ll sign it 12 times.
September 17th, 2012 at 6:46 am
Good news with TK restructuring we approx 3mil under cap..not that reggie has any plans to use it on a cb who does give 12-15 yrds of cushion or a WR who can actually make a catch in the redzone. It all goes to Mark Davis so he can now get a haircut
September 17th, 2012 at 6:48 am
not that reggie has any plans to use it on a cb who does give 12-15 yrds of cushion or a WR who can actually make a catch in the redzone.
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Who would you suggest? There is no one out there worth a damn anymore.
September 17th, 2012 at 6:48 am
Nyraider Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 6:38 am
Raider Riff Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 6:34 am
Nyraider Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 6:32 am
Carson Palmer = Jeff George
Good Stats no results
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Jeff George could read D’s as good as any in league history. And there wasnt a throw he couldnt make.
His problem was leadership. CP3 doesnt have a leadership problem, yet. He needs to grab his guys by the facemask and lay into them tho.
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really …Jeff George had a horrible W-L percentage..he was all ARM no substance..
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There was more to him than his arm. I just told you what his strengths were.
His weakness though was a major one. Leadership is about as important as it gets as a QB.
September 17th, 2012 at 6:48 am
Charlie Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 6:43 am
Guys. The reason it looks like we are inconsistent is because we face injured or undermanned opposing lines that occasionally make us look good and allow some guys to pad stats.
My post on 597 IS the problem.
When we face solid NFL lines we get crushed. Embarrassed. End of mystery.
Until the lines get fixed everything else is BS.
Sorry for the reality check.
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Yeah..pretty much
September 17th, 2012 at 6:49 am
There is no firing your OC after 2 games, or even 8 games, unless we want to revert back to the days when Steve fkn Sarkisian told us to piss off.
September 17th, 2012 at 6:49 am
There was more to him than his arm. I just told you what his strengths were.
His weakness though was a major one. Leadership is about as important as it gets as a QB.
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Jay Cutler is the new Jeff George. The parallels are striking.
Million dollar arm, ten cent head.
September 17th, 2012 at 6:50 am
Nyraider Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 6:46 am
Good news with TK restructuring we approx 3mil under cap..not that reggie has any plans to use it on a cb who does give 12-15 yrds of cushion or a WR who can actually make a catch in the redzone. It all goes to Mark Davis so he can now get a haircut
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Those cushions were unacceptable. Especially when we are blitzing and the CBs know its coming out hot. That is when they should be licking their chops at an INT opportunity.
September 17th, 2012 at 6:50 am
671.Just Fire Baby Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 6:49 am
There is no firing your OC after 2 games, or even 8 games, unless we want to revert back to the days when Steve fkn Sarkisian told us to piss off.
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Egg-zactly.
September 17th, 2012 at 6:51 am
Each week is a new WAR. Each WAR an opponent is diffrent.
The coaches create a new design or schematic for that particular WAR.
The coaches have the opportunity to IMPLEMENT NEW design plans to ENHANCE the effectiveness of the WAR plans.
“IF” something has not worked in the previous weeks, the coaches have the chanes to IMPROVE, and CORRECT the problems.
The coaches need to be willing to make changes and not be locked into a specific attack philosophy.
In addition to the attack philosohy, the coaches need to CHANGE the schemactic to bettter suite the players.
Example, as predicted, teams are mitigaing DMAC at the POA. Moreover DMAC has also DRAW a shadow usually its the best LB on the oppostions team. Superman, the mythical figure will not be effective going against an 8 man front.
As a coach and WAR planner, I need to understand this, and create a PLAN that will take advantage of the fact that my WR’s will be covered 1 on 1. I need to design a WAR plan that counters the mitigation of DMAC.
Can the Raids current coaching staff do this?
Are the coaches stuck in a “specific system”?
Are the Warriors, smart enough to execute the system?
Are the players tough enough to play in the system?
We have 14 games left…
Can the players on the Raids ex
September 17th, 2012 at 6:52 am
Riff,
I already watch alot of other games and am big football fan in general, just don’t know which teams i’d rather see win than others.
Usually New England is top of list of teams I want to see lose…Pittsburgh always up there with ‘em…any afc west teams…
Sick of seeing everyone else have all the fun…dangit we deserve something good to happen for us, we really do.
September 17th, 2012 at 6:53 am
Colts, Rams, Dolphins and Bucs are breaking in new systems with new Head Coaches and Offensive Coordinators, just like us.
2012 Colts: 22 ppg, up from 15.2 in 2011
2012 Rams: 27 ppg, up from 12.1 in 2011
2012 Bucs: 25 ppg, up from 17.9 in 2011
2012 Dolphins: 22.5 ppg, up from 20.6 in 2011
- Oakland Raiders: 13.5, down from 22.4 in 2011.
“It’s gonna take some time”, better hurry up.
Miami is an interesting case because they are making a similar transition by switching to Joe Philbin’s ZBS-WCO attack from Tony Sparano’s man blocking scheme, their OL are big, powerful and not exactly well suited for the system (except for the rookie RT) but they are averaging 5.5 yards per carry, feeding off the ground game and put a beating on us……….do they have better coaching?.
- OL.
We have 1 new player, our big Free-Agent signing, who is supposed to be a system specialist, Wiz played some C last year and shined, Carslile switched sides, not such a huge deal as to derail the entire unit.
Besides….
The Raiders could have brought back the 2010-2011 unit intact if they had re-sgned C Samson Satele instead of spending good money on Mike Brisiel, pushing Carlisle into LG and Wiz into C.
You know the same OL that sprung the 7th ranked rushing attack and allowed just 25 sacks in 2011.
And our current starters are all the athletic type who supposedely fit the ZBS, even Barnes can be considered agile for a RT, if anything this group of OL with the exception of Barnes are better suited for a ZBS blocking scheme, yet we are averaging 34 yards per game, down from 132 in 2011.
September 17th, 2012 at 6:53 am
DJ Johnny Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 6:44 am
Thec, Thanks, but why do we see the same “issues’ we’ve seen for years? The lack of tackling…not stopping the run despite change of schemes and new DC etc.?
Tyvon Branch sure as hel does not look like pro bowl prospect either.
DA said team will get “a little better each day”. They regressed from week 1.
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Same players = Same issues.
It’s gut check time, and Im not talking about Reggie. It’s time these guys realize Al aint coming back.
TP aint waiting for Al to throw him in the game, he’s been working his butt off.
Some of these other guys still dont realize that their potential isnt enough anymore.
September 17th, 2012 at 6:53 am
The Steelers have a HELL of a good WR trio in Mike Wallace, Antonio Brown and Emmanuel Sanders. They have a QB who excels at escaping pressure, which has been lacking anyway the past two weeks.
The Raiders have no secondary. No CBs at least.
It’s gall and wormwood for me to say it, but this game will get REALLY ugly REALLY fast.
Steelers 45 – Raiders 10
Man I hated typing that.
September 17th, 2012 at 6:54 am
Raider Riff Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 6:48 am
Nyraider Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 6:38 am
Raider Riff Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 6:34 am
Nyraider Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 6:32 am
Carson Palmer = Jeff George
Good Stats no results
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Jeff George could read D’s as good as any in league history. And there wasnt a throw he couldnt make.
His problem was leadership. CP3 doesnt have a leadership problem, yet. He needs to grab his guys by the facemask and lay into them tho.
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really …Jeff George had a horrible W-L percentage..he was all ARM no substance..
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There was more to him than his arm. I just told you what his strengths were.
His weakness though was a major one. Leadership is about as important as it gets as a QB.
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yeah his career passer rating of 80 or his 154 tds to 114 ints really support that leadership was what held him back ..you said he was as good as anyone reading defenses..crazy thought
September 17th, 2012 at 6:54 am
DJ Johnny Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 6:44 am
Thec, Thanks, but why do we see the same “issues’ we’ve seen for years? The lack of tackling…not stopping the run despite change of schemes and new DC etc.?
Tyvon Branch sure as hel does not look like pro bowl prospect either.
DA said team will get “a little better each day”. They regressed from week 1.
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This is going to sound like a sissy cope out. I even hate going here however, the Semi’s mentioned it.
Traveling back east, could be an issue.
They seemed lethargic and tired. I even heard a story on the Radio where one of the players could not sleep.
This is a flim flam excuse in my opinion however, whoever schdules us to play in mimi every season does us ZERO favors. Team clearly looks tired going into the second half.
September 17th, 2012 at 6:55 am
Wiz played some C last year and shined
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I don’t know about that, he graded out very poorly as a C according to PFF, however graded very high as a G.
I still think he should anchor our guard position for years to come, and find another center.
September 17th, 2012 at 6:57 am
This is going to sound like a sissy cope out. I even hate going here however, the Semi’s mentioned it.
Traveling back east, could be an issue.
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Don’t do it Thec!!!
Last year, WC teams in those conditions had a winning record (49ers were 4-0) and the Cardinals just went in and beat the Pats.
September 17th, 2012 at 6:57 am
http://www.raiders.com/media-vault/videos/Raiders-Introduce-Allen-as-Head-Coach/c66de533-4a49-46de-9a82-32c9a28cd1c6
Watching Allen on the sidelines yesterday reminded me of something I noticed at his inaugural presser. I don’t like the calls he makes or doesn’t make. And use that fvckin red flag, wuss.
Go to 26:50 and see Allen show his “tell” like a bad poker player. I mentioned it here at the time but forgot about it over the summer and after LOTS of kool aid.
Allen is a weasel and I don’t like him or his bum buddy krapp.
September 17th, 2012 at 6:57 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 6:50 am
671.Just Fire Baby Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 6:49 am
There is no firing your OC after 2 games, or even 8 games, unless we want to revert back to the days when Steve fkn Sarkisian told us to piss off.
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Egg-zactly.
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That is one of the reasons I was for keeping Hue after last season. We get away with that one due to the “new era”.
Here’s a good ?: How long will Hue Jackson be the Raider coach with best win % since Gruden?
DA is already 2 in the hole.
September 17th, 2012 at 6:58 am
Thec Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 6:51 am
Each week is a new WAR. Each WAR an opponent is diffrent.
The coaches create a new design or schematic for that particular WAR.
The coaches have the opportunity to IMPLEMENT NEW design plans to ENHANCE the effectiveness of the WAR plans.
“IF” something has not worked in the previous weeks, the coaches have the chanes to IMPROVE, and CORRECT the problems.
The coaches need to be willing to make changes and not be locked into a specific attack philosophy.
In addition to the attack philosohy, the coaches need to CHANGE the schemactic to bettter suite the players.
Example, as predicted, teams are mitigaing DMAC at the POA. Moreover DMAC has also DRAW a shadow usually its the best LB on the oppostions team. Superman, the mythical figure will not be effective going against an 8 man front.
As a coach and WAR planner, I need to understand this, and create a PLAN that will take advantage of the fact that my WR’s will be covered 1 on 1. I need to design a WAR plan that counters the mitigation of DMAC.
Can the Raids current coaching staff do this?
Are the coaches stuck in a “specific system”?
Are the Warriors, smart enough to execute the system?
Are the players tough enough to play in the system?
We have 14 games left…
Can the players on the Raids ex
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If you keep changing the scheme in a effort to make up for players who dont show up, you will forever chase your tail.
The scheme is working. WRs are running lazy routes and Palmer missed them when they were wide open, twice to Moore yesterday. DMC has to catch the ball and walk into the endzone. LBs have to fill their gaps. DBs have to make simple tackles.
Their is no “better scheme” for missing a tackle.
September 17th, 2012 at 6:59 am
Did most of us have the expectations that we would atomatically be better after replacing the last regime?
Did some of expect, a turnaround like we saw wih the other team in the bay?
I would imagine that I may have overestimated this team.
We have 14 games to find out.
Not time to jump off any bridge or over pass near you.
We have 14 games left.
September 17th, 2012 at 6:59 am
East Coast teams had a worse record coming out West for afternoon games, than vice versa.
And we are talking about the Raiders, Chargers, 49ers, Seachickens and Cardinals as our West Coast representatives.
Not exactly the “heart of the lineup” of the NFL.
September 17th, 2012 at 7:00 am
Thec Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 6:40 am
I do not beleive the season is over.
14 games left, anything can happen over that period.
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The season isn’t over. Far from it.
It’s possible the Raids can turn it around. I know they can play better.
Been watching this game too long to write them off just yet.
Honestly, with Krapp around I don’t see things getting much better, but I sure as hell will be watching every game anyway and hoping.
September 17th, 2012 at 7:01 am
CODE FIRE KNAPP
September 17th, 2012 at 7:02 am
Tebow came in on the wildcast yesterday against Pitt and immediately ripped off a 20 yard run.
Pryor needs some packages this week. Him in shotgun and barreling into the line can’t be much worse than what we have seen.
Hell, we may pick up 4 yards on 1st down, for once.
September 17th, 2012 at 7:02 am
What turned the game yesterday…Palmer took 2 seconds too long to get the ball to DMAC. Yes, he still should have caught that, but 2 seconds earlier, DMAC would have been in for a score (in my opinion). Even the announcer said that. And then that whiff on missing an open D Moore that could have easily been 6…
I don’t know why but the D always deflates in the East Coast, but I agree, that is BS!!!
September 17th, 2012 at 7:02 am
Thec Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 6:51 am
Each week is a new WAR. Each WAR an opponent is diffrent.
The coaches create a new design or schematic for that particular WAR.
The coaches have the opportunity to IMPLEMENT NEW design plans to ENHANCE the effectiveness of the WAR plans.
“IF” something has not worked in the previous weeks, the coaches have the chanes to IMPROVE, and CORRECT the problems.
The coaches need to be willing to make changes and not be locked into a specific attack philosophy.
In addition to the attack philosohy, the coaches need to CHANGE the schemactic to bettter suite the players.
Example, as predicted, teams are mitigaing DMAC at the POA. Moreover DMAC has also DRAW a shadow usually its the best LB on the oppostions team. Superman, the mythical figure will not be effective going against an 8 man front.
As a coach and WAR planner, I need to understand this, and create a PLAN that will take advantage of the fact that my WR’s will be covered 1 on 1. I need to design a WAR plan that counters the mitigation of DMAC.
Can the Raids current coaching staff do this?
Are the coaches stuck in a “specific system”?
Are the Warriors, smart enough to execute the system?
Are the players tough enough to play in the system?
We have 14 games left…
Can the players on the Raids ex
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We should try and do what peyton did to Pitt, keep there D on the field..But i have a bad feeling the predictable zbs/wco will be bagged lunch for the steelers and polymalu…There is to many dang problems on this team to only point out one..but if PITT gets up early on us and stops our run (which seems to be pretty easy as of lately)…It may get ugly if palmer has to throw over 50times against that pitt pass rush….i dont want this to sound premature..but pryor might make an appearance in this game if it gets out of hand..
September 17th, 2012 at 7:03 am
If you keep changing the scheme in a effort to make up for players who dont show up, you will forever chase your tail.
The scheme is working. WRs are running lazy routes and Palmer missed them when they were wide open, twice to Moore yesterday. DMC has to catch the ball and walk into the endzone. LBs have to fill their gaps. DBs have to make simple tackles.
Their is no “better scheme” for missing a tackle.
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First off I am not on board with firing Knapp as we committed to him, even though I do not belive he is very good.
Each game requires a new design as you know.
I am not suggesting a whole sale scheatic change however, we are not running the ball well at all.
Now is this a player issue, or a design issue.
what I am saying is, these coaches are SMART enough to
desigh something that will mitigate 8 in the box.
September 17th, 2012 at 7:04 am
Nyraider Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 6:54 am
Raider Riff Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 6:48 am
Nyraider Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 6:38 am
Raider Riff Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 6:34 am
Nyraider Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 6:32 am
Carson Palmer = Jeff George
Good Stats no results
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Jeff George could read D’s as good as any in league history. And there wasnt a throw he couldnt make.
His problem was leadership. CP3 doesnt have a leadership problem, yet. He needs to grab his guys by the facemask and lay into them tho.
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really …Jeff George had a horrible W-L percentage..he was all ARM no substance..
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There was more to him than his arm. I just told you what his strengths were.
His weakness though was a major one. Leadership is about as important as it gets as a QB.
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yeah his career passer rating of 80 or his 154 tds to 114 ints really support that leadership was what held him back ..you said he was as good as anyone reading defenses..crazy thought
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It doesnt matter to me what you THINK. Go look up numbers to support your BELIEF.
I’ll continue to go by what Ive heard coaches say. Which is that George was VERY good at reading defenses.
Marinovich could break down a D in his sleep as well. We know how that turned out.
There is a lot more to being a winning QB than reading a D and having a rocket arm. Your numbers show that George was an average QB. And I agree, he was. The whole reason I commented was because you made the comparison to CP3 and I had to correct you in that their issues are not the same.
September 17th, 2012 at 7:04 am
JFB.
On Wiz…
I still think he should anchor our guard position for years to come, and find another center.
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Ok, then we should have brought Satele back, keep Wiz at LG and Carlisle at RG, Satele was a scheme fit and would have been cheaper than Brisiel, right?.
September 17th, 2012 at 7:06 am
D-Mac had 7 passes thrown to him, was credited with 3 drops, and one of his 2 catches resulted in him Franco Harrising it OOB 3 yards short of the sticks.
September 17th, 2012 at 7:07 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 6:59 am
East Coast teams had a worse record coming out West for afternoon games, than vice versa.
And we are talking about the Raiders, Chargers, 49ers, Seachickens and Cardinals as our West Coast representatives.
Not exactly the “heart of the lineup” of the NFL.
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Traveling west is easier than traveling east. IDK exactly why but its a phenomenon that has something to do with the human body, sleep patterns and whatnot.
I used to travel a lot back and forth from Europe and the USA to compete. It was easier for the Europeans to come to America than the Americans to go to Europe. Its always been that way.
Changing only two time zones shouldnt be that big a deal tho. The normal threshold is 3 time zones. They are just now starting to figure it out in sports like MMA.
September 17th, 2012 at 7:07 am
Lorenzo Neal was livid on the Raiders post-game because of the 1-12 on 3rd down conversions. Romo, as well, was fuming over the waste of Dmac’s running talent under Krappy’s inept system.
However, just like HueSux, as head coach, was responsible for the entire team (defense and special teams), so it’s Allen responsible for the Krappy debacle. And in turn, so it’s RegMac because he was given free rein to rebuild the organization in his own image, just like everything was Mr. Davis’ fault, so it’s RegMac to be hold accountable. Can’t really blame Mark Davis, as he seems to be just along for the ride.
Give them time? Patience? I don’t have any left, and by the way 99% of the Raider Nation is reacting, I don’t believe there is much left.
Were most of us overly confident? Overly hopeful?
IMO, I knew the Raiders were not going far with Palmer mainly because he is just the loser with the golden arm, an over-hyped overpaid loser with zero credibility and accountability, and more than anything with a lack of proven leadership skills, one who rather run and hide. As I suspected when HueSux signed this loser, that it wouldn’t be surprising if the Raiders turned into the west coast bungles, were everything that could go wrong does. Carson has the power to infect the loser jinx, just the way he is, just like some players just seem to infect team with winning attitudes.
However, the Nation is also overly masochist, most of us will continue to bleed for this organization no matter how much we get screwed, and just wait, there will be many of you in this blog who will predict beating Pitt on Sunday.
September 17th, 2012 at 7:07 am
Example of a simple WAR plan change;
Design packages for the following Players;
REECE
CRINER
TPRYOR
TJONES
Make the oppostion plan for the whole as it is been proven with the current schematic, you take away DMAC the team will struggle to put points up.
September 17th, 2012 at 7:08 am
An another note…
1st qtr, Reggie had 33 yards rushing
2nd qtr, Reggie had 2 yards rushing,
Then the second half came…WTF?
The first drive by Tannehill looked like it was gonna be a long day, then the D settled down and forced them to punt lke what? 6 times?
Then the second half came!
I know 14-10, in the 3rd is not panic mode, but I knew once Reggie somehow broke 4 tackles to run in for a 23 yard TD, that was it!!!
September 17th, 2012 at 7:08 am
The passing game looked better yesterday, there were some nice plays but not being able to run the ball is killing us and that was supposed to be Knapp’s biggest selling point, a top-notch run game was the least we expected from the guy.
September 17th, 2012 at 7:08 am
Bob,
Never got the Satele hate in here, guess people didn’t like the head-bobbing or something (he stills does it in Indy).
He was about as good as they come in the screen game, and screens were a major part of our offense the last few years.
September 17th, 2012 at 7:08 am
When those psychic people started talking about Knapp and his issues, the monkeys told them Knapp never had this much talent sincAshe was in SF, and now the Monkeys want to Blame the talent/ players!
Effin Monkeys!
September 17th, 2012 at 7:09 am
Thec Says:
Now is this a player issue, or a design issue.
what I am saying is, these coaches are SMART enough to
desigh something that will mitigate 8 in the box.
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When watching the tape, Im seeing a player issue.
As for mitigating 8 in the box, we have to get the pass game working. The players arent executing in this area. And then in the 2nd half when it becomes known passing situations, it only gets worse because our OLine cant hold up even when they have numbers in their favor.
September 17th, 2012 at 7:10 am
3-10-OAK20 (14:17) C.Palmer pass short left to B.Myers to OAK 24 for 4 yards (K.Dansby).
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Can’t win with this Krapp.
No way, no how.
September 17th, 2012 at 7:11 am
Bob Marley Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 7:08 am
The passing game looked better yesterday, there were some nice plays but not being able to run the ball is killing us and that was supposed to be Knapp’s biggest selling point, a top-notch run game was the least we expected from the guy.
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Our passing game looks good, but it is highly inconsistent. Sometimes we pass protect, other times we dont.
We drive all the way in and then DMC and Palmer mess up what should have been a TD.
We have opportunities to force the D to change their scheme but we dont do it.
The jig is up. Teams know that they can just leave 7 in the box consistently and we cannot pass consistently enough to hurt them for it.
It will be the same next week. Guaranteed. Pitt is licking their chops.
September 17th, 2012 at 7:11 am
Has Knapp ever turned something around. Some of us knew right away when Knapp was hired it was a mistake. Others needed a few preseason games, some needed 2 games into the season, some of you need an entire year that results in 4 or 5 wins. Bottom line when January rolls around we can all look back to the day when we lost to the dolphins which ended our season. Reggie took a team that went 8-8 and had a chance to go to the playoffs, replaced 22 guys , and brought in his guys as coaches. the results are his results and my biggest fear is reggie will keep knapp around for another year. With respect to this year in the next 3 games our best chance for a win is at home against pitt, no way manning or Miller dont eat up reggies low priced Cbs. 1-4 or 0-5 is not good enough and the reality of the situation is Reggie and his crew give me no confidence that they are the guys who can turn this around.
September 17th, 2012 at 7:12 am
3-10-OAK20 (14:17) C.Palmer pass short left to B.Myers to OAK 24 for 4 yards (K.Dansby).
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Sure way to LOSE the war.
September 17th, 2012 at 7:13 am
3-10-OAK20 (14:17) C.Palmer pass short left to B.Myers to OAK 24 for 4 yards (K.Dansby).
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Oscar Meyers pattern should have been for more that the first down.
A check down, should get me at least to the sticks.
Is this a design issue, or player issue.
September 17th, 2012 at 7:13 am
Who was that poster that always siad, hey…14-2 is still out there…
September 17th, 2012 at 7:14 am
Example of a simple WAR plan change;
Design packages for the following Players;
REECE
CRINER
TPRYOR
TJONES
AUSBERRY
September 17th, 2012 at 7:14 am
3-10-OAK20 (14:17) C.Palmer pass short left to B.Myers to OAK 24 for 4 yards (K.Dansby).
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Krappy waving the white flag of SURRENDER.
September 17th, 2012 at 7:15 am
Thec Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 7:07 am
Example of a simple WAR plan change;
Design packages for the following Players;
REECE
CRINER
TPRYOR
TJONES
Make the oppostion plan for the whole as it is been proven with the current schematic, you take away DMAC the team will struggle to put points up.
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REECE – didnt show up for OTAs when he had every reason to be there
CRINER – hurt
TPRYOR – really?
TJONES – hurt
Keep beating that war drum. More special gimmick plays is definitely what we need. Especially when we cannot even execute the basic stuff.
4 guys had a chance to tackle Bush on his first TD. But that isnt enough apparently. Tarver should have called a “different special scheme”.
Fvcking idiots man. Seriously. We have the lowest standards for our players in the NFL.
September 17th, 2012 at 7:15 am
DAMN……I really miss AL DAVIS now.
September 17th, 2012 at 7:16 am
“can you imagine what Knapp can do with our offense and talent, he will have an elite RB, solid PB vet QB, fast and capable WRs, and Reece…. He will score 30+ points every game….”
- we scored 27 points in 2 games!!!
“it’s only preseason”
- same issues!!
Effin Monkeys!!
September 17th, 2012 at 7:16 am
Raider Riff Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 7:04 am
Nyraider Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 6:54 am
Raider Riff Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 6:48 am
Nyraider Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 6:38 am
Raider Riff Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 6:34 am
Nyraider Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 6:32 am
Carson Palmer = Jeff George
Good Stats no results
——-
Jeff George could read D’s as good as any in league history. And there wasnt a throw he couldnt make.
His problem was leadership. CP3 doesnt have a leadership problem, yet. He needs to grab his guys by the facemask and lay into them tho.
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really …Jeff George had a horrible W-L percentage..he was all ARM no substance..
——————–
There was more to him than his arm. I just told you what his strengths were.
His weakness though was a major one. Leadership is about as important as it gets as a QB.
—————————————
yeah his career passer rating of 80 or his 154 tds to 114 ints really support that leadership was what held him back ..you said he was as good as anyone reading defenses..crazy thought
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It doesnt matter to me what you THINK. Go look up numbers to support your BELIEF.
I’ll continue to go by what Ive heard coaches say. Which is that George was VERY good at reading defenses.
Marinovich could break down a D in his sleep as well. We know how that turned out.
There is a lot more to being a winning QB than reading a D and having a rocket arm. Your numbers show that George was an average QB. And I agree, he was. The whole reason I commented was because you made the comparison to CP3 and I had to correct you in that their issues are not the same.
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go back and read the post..my comment was they both dont generate results..that is an accurate comparision. I didnt comment on their issues EXCEPT that they both dont get results.
September 17th, 2012 at 7:16 am
99,
Myers isn’t the ONLY guy running the route on that play, if anyone is surrending wouldn’t it be the QB taking the quick check-down?
September 17th, 2012 at 7:16 am
Thec Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 7:13 am
3-10-OAK20 (14:17) C.Palmer pass short left to B.Myers to OAK 24 for 4 yards (K.Dansby).
===============================================
Oscar Meyers pattern should have been for more that the first down.
A check down, should get me at least to the sticks.
Is this a design issue, or player issue.
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Its called a hot read. When your OLine cant block, you dont have time to “check it down” to a 10 yard route.
Not a scheme issue. Its a chitty O-Line issue.
September 17th, 2012 at 7:17 am
3-10-OAK20 (14:17) C.Palmer pass short left to B.Myers to OAK 24 for 4 yards (K.Dansby).
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Might as well just punt on 3rd, with sht like this.
September 17th, 2012 at 7:17 am
Sink or Swim.
Either the players get the system or the Raiders will have their 1st true rebuilding ever. And rebuilding efforts are no guarantee…
As an earlier poster said, the WCO isn’t going anywhere…I never understood why everyone wants to just copy the same ole same ole.
But just like I couldn’t tell Al Davis what to do, I doubt I have any pull with Reggie and company.
Buckle your seatbelts. Its a combnation of bad decisions in the past, overpaid players, stubborn coaches and direction.
I’ll still watch….it is what it is.
Lesson learned though….no more reliance on broke down QBs no one else wants!!!!!!!!
You can lose with TP for a tenth of the cost
September 17th, 2012 at 7:17 am
Looking back, we signed Bartell to a 1 year 3 million deal, Denver signed the younger Tracy Porter to a 1 year 4 million deal, maybe we should have thrown a little more money at him, hope the DA connection was enough to lure him here.
On the other hand, Shawntae Spencer was doing well, too bad he got nicked up, hope he can make it back for Pitt.
September 17th, 2012 at 7:17 am
Surprises of the day yesterday:
Arizona goes to NE and beats them (although, didn’t their kicker miss the FG that shoudl have won it yesterday)
St. Louis Rams, after a fumble return for a TD to start the game, came back and beat RGIII and the Redskins.
NY Giants came back from being down 27-13 to win the game.
Biggest Surprise…New Orleans Saints are also 0-2!
September 17th, 2012 at 7:17 am
DHB should be benched. He provides nothing in the pass game
September 17th, 2012 at 7:18 am
Moore is a solid receiver with promise because he finds a way to get open…even though Carson and his elite arm can’t hit him
September 17th, 2012 at 7:18 am
Gut check….if you can’t find a way to get DMAC yards…you have problems as a coaching professional.
September 17th, 2012 at 7:19 am
We lost to Miami, friggin Miami the team that tried there hardest to fold this season. Un-fvckin-believable!!
September 17th, 2012 at 7:19 am
3-10-OAK20 (14:17) C.Palmer pass short left to B.Myers to OAK 24 for 4 yards (K.Dansby).
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Didn’t we see this same sht play fail on 3rd and 3 against SD ?
September 17th, 2012 at 7:19 am
Nyraider Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 7:11 am
Has Knapp ever turned something around. Some of us knew right away when Knapp was hired it was a mistake. Others needed a few preseason games, some needed 2 games into the season, some of you need an entire year that results in 4 or 5 wins. Bottom line when January rolls around we can all look back to the day when we lost to the dolphins which ended our season. Reggie took a team that went 8-8 and had a chance to go to the playoffs, replaced 22 guys , and brought in his guys as coaches. the results are his results and my biggest fear is reggie will keep knapp around for another year. With respect to this year in the next 3 games our best chance for a win is at home against pitt, no way manning or Miller dont eat up reggies low priced Cbs. 1-4 or 0-5 is not good enough and the reality of the situation is Reggie and his crew give me no confidence that they are the guys who can turn this around.
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I see. So you have confidence in the old way of doing things that worked so spectacularly for the last 30 years.
Again, lowest standards in the NFL.
Our fans would rather lose the Raider way than finally rebuild this thing in to a modern franchise.
September 17th, 2012 at 7:19 am
Thec Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 7:13 am
3-10-OAK20 (14:17) C.Palmer pass short left to B.Myers to OAK 24 for 4 yards (K.Dansby).
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Oscar Meyers pattern should have been for more that the first down.
A check down, should get me at least to the sticks.
Is this a design issue, or player issue.
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It’s an offensive line not giving CP3 enough time issue..when the pass rush is directly in your face on every third and 10 because you have no protection, dumping it down for 4 yds is better than throwing it up for grabs ..Il take the punt over the pic 6..its the o-line fellas, they just aren’t very good..
September 17th, 2012 at 7:19 am
Losing to Miami like that…really lost me
September 17th, 2012 at 7:20 am
726,
Good point. Alot of coaches would LOVE to have a weapon like that and this “scheme” canonly get him 2 yds. a carry?
Gimme break.
September 17th, 2012 at 7:20 am
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REECE – didnt show up for OTAs when he had every reason to be there
CRINER – hurt
TPRYOR – really?
TJONES – hurt
Keep beating that war drum. More special gimmick plays is definitely what we need. Especially when we cannot even execute the basic stuff.
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REECE is a weopon, and should be getting more run.
Him missing OTA’s is not a valid excuse to him not being on the field.
Is CRINER still hurt?
Not advocating special gimmicks. I would however, force a team to spend time scheming for TPRYOR.
TJONES hurt? However, did he suit up??? I heard his name called on SP teams, was that a mirage?
If so this is also an issue. Players in the dog house for making mistakes.
September 17th, 2012 at 7:20 am
Everyone hated it during the preseason, but an occasional draw on these 3rd and 7+ plays would be a welcome relief to these teams sending 6-7 guys at the QB and throwing all our passes on a backpedal.
I would rather pine my hops to converting a 3rd and 7 with Darren running the ball, rather than him in blitz pickup.
September 17th, 2012 at 7:21 am
Bob Marley Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 7:17 am
Looking back, we signed Bartell to a 1 year 3 million deal, Denver signed the younger Tracy Porter to a 1 year 4 million deal, maybe we should have thrown a little more money at him, hope the DA connection was enough to lure him here.
On the other hand, Shawntae Spencer was doing well, too bad he got nicked up, hope he can make it back for Pitt.
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This is the first criticism of Reggies off-season moves that makes sense.
Tho, their might be a very specific reason (Manning) that Porter gave them the discount he did.
September 17th, 2012 at 7:21 am
3-10-OAK20 (14:17) C.Palmer pass short left to B.Myers to OAK 24 for 4 yards (K.Dansby).
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And we’re wondering why we can’t convert a 3rd down ?
September 17th, 2012 at 7:22 am
724.SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 7:17 am
DHB should be benched. He provides nothing in the pass game
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Yep, he’s only the leading WR on the team.
Of note: when Brandon Myers is your leading pass catcher after 2 games, something is wrong.
September 17th, 2012 at 7:23 am
Raider Riff Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 7:19 am
Nyraider Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 7:11 am
Has Knapp ever turned something around. Some of us knew right away when Knapp was hired it was a mistake. Others needed a few preseason games, some needed 2 games into the season, some of you need an entire year that results in 4 or 5 wins. Bottom line when January rolls around we can all look back to the day when we lost to the dolphins which ended our season. Reggie took a team that went 8-8 and had a chance to go to the playoffs, replaced 22 guys , and brought in his guys as coaches. the results are his results and my biggest fear is reggie will keep knapp around for another year. With respect to this year in the next 3 games our best chance for a win is at home against pitt, no way manning or Miller dont eat up reggies low priced Cbs. 1-4 or 0-5 is not good enough and the reality of the situation is Reggie and his crew give me no confidence that they are the guys who can turn this around.
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I see. So you have confidence in the old way of doing things that worked so spectacularly for the last 30 years.
Again, lowest standards in the NFL.
Our fans would rather lose the Raider way than finally rebuild this thing in to a modern franchise.
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your a clown, where did i say i wanted the old way of doing things.
September 17th, 2012 at 7:23 am
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 7:21 am
3-10-OAK20 (14:17) C.Palmer pass short left to B.Myers to OAK 24 for 4 yards (K.Dansby).
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And we’re wondering why we can’t convert a 3rd down ?
You know one thing from Knapp that stays teh same also…1st and 10, pass falls incomplete.
2nd and 10, run for a yard or 2. Suddenly, we’re in 3rd and long!
September 17th, 2012 at 7:24 am
3-10-OAK20 (14:17) C.Palmer pass short left to B.Myers to OAK 24 for 4 yards (K.Dansby).
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There are still fools defending Krapp’s play calling ?
Really ?
September 17th, 2012 at 7:24 am
Thec Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 7:20 am
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REECE – didnt show up for OTAs when he had every reason to be there
CRINER – hurt
TPRYOR – really?
TJONES – hurt
Keep beating that war drum. More special gimmick plays is definitely what we need. Especially when we cannot even execute the basic stuff.
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REECE is a weopon, and should be getting more run.
Him missing OTA’s is not a valid excuse to him not being on the field.
Is CRINER still hurt?
Not advocating special gimmicks. I would however, force a team to spend time scheming for TPRYOR.
TJONES hurt? However, did he suit up??? I heard his name called on SP teams, was that a mirage?
If so this is also an issue. Players in the dog house for making mistakes.
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What is his valid reason for missing OTAs? Why do you absolve him of any wrong doing when he was holding out for something he could NEVER win. All it did was hurt us.
Criner was inactive. Still healing.
TJones was playing hurt, and got more hurt playing special teams.
Nobody is going to scheme for Pryor. No real DC in the league is going to scheme for him. This isnt Madden on XBox. They will continue to stack the box because we cant pass protect and cant run routes and cant catch. Its that simple.
September 17th, 2012 at 7:24 am
reggie and kiffin part 2 still around? what about krapp? Dammm thought it was a nightmare…
September 17th, 2012 at 7:25 am
DJ Johnny Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 7:20 am
726,
Good point. Alot of coaches would LOVE to have a weapon like that and this “scheme” canonly get him 2 yds. a carry?
Gimme break.
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DMACs career is going to follow Marshall Faulk’s trajectory….sadly, like Marshall, he will shine with a 2nd team
September 17th, 2012 at 7:26 am
3-10-OAK20 (14:17) C.Palmer pass short left to B.Myers to OAK 24 for 4 yards (K.Dansby).
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We’re lucky to have scored 3 pts in the 2nd half yesterday.
September 17th, 2012 at 7:26 am
I gotta run.
We have pitt at home.
I want to see some improvement over last weeks debacle.
We have 14 WARS left, will take them 1 at a time.
1 NATION
September 17th, 2012 at 7:27 am
Faulk was a lot better in Indy than McFadden has been here.
September 17th, 2012 at 7:27 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 7:22 am
724.SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 7:17 am
DHB should be benched. He provides nothing in the pass game
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Yep, he’s only the leading WR on the team.
Of note: when Brandon Myers is your leading pass catcher after 2 games, something is wrong.
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Not saying much with Moore missing week 1, DMAC get 100 catches and Streeter and Hagan gettign their feet under them.
Where’s DHB? What big plays is he making…is he finding spots to get open…is he physical out there…what the hell does he do?
September 17th, 2012 at 7:28 am
3-10-OAK20 (14:17) C.Palmer pass short left to B.Myers to OAK 24 for 4 yards (K.Dansby).
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Your Honor, I rest my case.
September 17th, 2012 at 7:29 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 7:27 am
Faulk was a lot better in Indy than McFadden has been here.
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True….
If the Raiders are going to rebuild…then do it all the way.
Get “their” guys in there and tell the fan base to buckle its seatbelt.
Let’s just get on with it if the current player/coach combination doesn’t work.
And for all you posters out there….THE COACHES AREN’T GOING ANYWHERE!
September 17th, 2012 at 7:29 am
Al Davis’s corpus lies a’rotting in his grave
Spinnin’ like a top as the Raiders gag and cave
The Nation whines again “Oh God-the season cant be saved!”
And the losing goes on and on……
September 17th, 2012 at 7:30 am
If Reggie didn’t think he could win with the core of this team, he should have made his move this year, get rid of every high salary vet, cut them, give them away for low draft picks, spent the season in salary cap hell and keep just the guys playing on rookie coantracts, fill out the roster with undrafted Free Agents and other team cast-offs who would play for the vetearn minimum, go full rebuld, win 1 game or 2 whatever, at least we would know what we were doing.
Most of us would have been ok with it, just start over if you think you can’t compete with the core of this team (debatable) instead we’re in limbo right now.
September 17th, 2012 at 7:30 am
Faulk through 5 season in Indy missed 3 games (sorry I said one earlier) made 3 Pro Bowls, rushed for 1,000 yards 4 of the 5 years, had 54 total TD’s, and had an amazing 2,200 yards from scrimmage his last season there.
And still only got a 2nd rounder for him in a trade.
McFadden probably couldn’t fetch us a 2015 3rd rounder right now.
September 17th, 2012 at 7:31 am
what the heck have streater and hagan done? this is a prime example of how reggie destroyed this team…neither of those guys can get any seperation…lbs can keep up with them…
September 17th, 2012 at 7:31 am
Anybody smile when they saw the end of the AZ and NE game, ha ha,
September 17th, 2012 at 7:32 am
Nyraider Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 7:23 am
Raider Riff Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 7:19 am
Nyraider Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 7:11 am
Has Knapp ever turned something around. Some of us knew right away when Knapp was hired it was a mistake. Others needed a few preseason games, some needed 2 games into the season, some of you need an entire year that results in 4 or 5 wins. Bottom line when January rolls around we can all look back to the day when we lost to the dolphins which ended our season. Reggie took a team that went 8-8 and had a chance to go to the playoffs, replaced 22 guys , and brought in his guys as coaches. the results are his results and my biggest fear is reggie will keep knapp around for another year. With respect to this year in the next 3 games our best chance for a win is at home against pitt, no way manning or Miller dont eat up reggies low priced Cbs. 1-4 or 0-5 is not good enough and the reality of the situation is Reggie and his crew give me no confidence that they are the guys who can turn this around.
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I see. So you have confidence in the old way of doing things that worked so spectacularly for the last 30 years.
Again, lowest standards in the NFL.
Our fans would rather lose the Raider way than finally rebuild this thing in to a modern franchise.
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your a clown, where did i say i wanted the old way of doing things.
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The moment you start blaming the coaching staff, something you are not even remotely qualified to do, instead of blaming the players for obvious errors (penalties, lazy routes, dropped passes, missed tackles, missed blocks) then you are advocating the old way.
September 17th, 2012 at 7:32 am
It is frustrating to see offenses led by ROOKIE Qbs move the ball down the field and this Raider offense looks so inept with a veteran O-Line, Veteran QB, Veteran RB and “experienced” receivers in DHB
Pitiful – what a waste of an offseason
September 17th, 2012 at 7:33 am
3-10-OAK20 (14:17) C.Palmer pass short left to B.Myers to OAK 24 for 4 yards (K.Dansby).
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This court hereby finds the defendent Gregry (no ‘o’) Kanapp GUILTY of gross incompetence and negligence.
I order the Nation Jury to convene and determine the penalty, up to and including LETHAL INJECTION.
September 17th, 2012 at 7:33 am
Bob Marley Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 7:30 am
If Reggie didn’t think he could win with the core of this team, he should have made his move this year, get rid of every high salary vet, cut them, give them away for low draft picks, spent the season in salary cap hell and keep just the guys playing on rookie coantracts, fill out the roster with undrafted Free Agents and other team cast-offs who would play for the vetearn minimum, go full rebuld, win 1 game or 2 whatever, at least we would know what we were doing.
Most of us would have been ok with it, just start over if you think you can’t compete with the core of this team (debatable) instead we’re in limbo right now.
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He thought we could win. He was telling people that in private. He isnt the type to come out and say it publicly.
September 17th, 2012 at 7:34 am
Bob Marley Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 7:30 am
If Reggie didn’t think he could win with the core of this team, he should have made his move this year, get rid of every high salary vet, cut them, give them away for low draft picks, spent the season in salary cap hell and keep just the guys playing on rookie coantracts, fill out the roster with undrafted Free Agents and other team cast-offs who would play for the vetearn minimum, go full rebuld, win 1 game or 2 whatever, at least we would know what we were doing.
Most of us would have been ok with it, just start over if you think you can’t compete with the core of this team (debatable) instead we’re in limbo right now
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I agree with this statment 100%. If they thought the team was going to be this bad, then clean house.
Losing while paying $100 is better than losing while paying out $1000000000!
September 17th, 2012 at 7:34 am
So who are we going to pick with the number one overall choice in next years draft?
Make no mistake, this is the worst team in the league. If you think we could beat the Rams or the Browns right now, your just plain crazy. They are putting up fights in games….we are just getting beat down and destroyed like a screen door in a hurricane..
Seriously…who’s going to be the Number One overall Next year?
September 17th, 2012 at 7:35 am
I’m liken that Ausberry, he straight bitccch slapped Dansby on his crusty arsss, get off me boy is what that play looked like.
September 17th, 2012 at 7:35 am
I think the real issue is we have an O-line that was designed to power man block, not zone block (with the exception of Brisel) and these guys are simply out of their element, kinda like putting 4-3 Lbs in a 3-4 scheme. I don’t have a problem with the west coast offensive scheme, what I DO have a problem with is the blocking scheme (zbs) and it appears that people are confusing the blocking scheme as the overall offensive philosophy. We ran a West coast O under Gruden but I don’t recall him using a ZBS, I could be wrong but I don’t recall it. A lot of these dink donk passes are a result of CP3 having to get rid of the ball urgently which also explains some (not all) of the throws into double and triple coverage.
NEWS FLASH; Knapp was NOT the OC in Houston, he was the Qb coach, so the Texans offensive success came from Kubiak,,,please understand that. Knapp has been pretty much unsuccessful as an OC everywhere he’s been, (T.O.can tell you that) so for those few who are actually defending him,, that’s your right to do so but slow down on the elementary insults on those who are convinced that Knapp was a repeated mistake.
DA doesn’t get a pass either because he was supposed to fix this Defense which still appears to be broken,,, didn’t see any kinda fire in him which was a lil disturbing,,, maybe he’s just calm under pressure,,,, MAYBE. The only one who showed an ounce of emotion yesterday was Tarver. He seems to really care about playing up to standards so hopefully it’ll start to sink in with the players, because if not Tarver will either have a head full of grey hairs or he’ll be bald by the end of the season. Sidenote: Mark Davis won’t be moving the Team to L.A. because of some boo birds so let’s stop being insane,, he wants a new stadium,, the end.
We’ll see what kinda attitude this team has come Sunday,,, one win can change things but if the O-line continues to “zone block” the way they have been, and the corners continues to give 9-10yrd cushions we will be in a world of trouble,,, a zone in which we’ve spent the last 10yrs in.
September 17th, 2012 at 7:36 am
Raider Riff Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 7:33 am
Bob Marley Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 7:30 am
If Reggie didn’t think he could win with the core of this team, he should have made his move this year, get rid of every high salary vet, cut them, give them away for low draft picks, spent the season in salary cap hell and keep just the guys playing on rookie coantracts, fill out the roster with undrafted Free Agents and other team cast-offs who would play for the vetearn minimum, go full rebuld, win 1 game or 2 whatever, at least we would know what we were doing.
Most of us would have been ok with it, just start over if you think you can’t compete with the core of this team (debatable) instead we’re in limbo right now.
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He thought we could win. He was telling people that in private. He isnt the type to come out and say it publicly.
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I know he did, the plan isn’t working so far.
September 17th, 2012 at 7:36 am
This game yesterday was just like the Green BAy and Miami games last year.
Team is not competitive with a VET cast.
Might as well give them until week 4….but if they are 0-4…I want a total sterilization of the roster.
Anyone over 30 yrs old should dispatched with immediate effect
September 17th, 2012 at 7:37 am
Sign me up for the dump Knapp petition…I posted before pre-season that we should be running a “greatest show on turf” style vertical offense with our QB and speed at the skill positions…Krapp is trying to fit square pegs into round holes with his dink and dunk west coast offense…and changing the blocking scheme is sure working wonderfully eh?…Seem to recall us being one of the top rushing teams when DMAC was healthy last year…Our vertical passing game also kept safeties back, opening up the run…We just lost two of the most “winnable” games on our schedule…4 – 12 here we come.
September 17th, 2012 at 7:37 am
I’m pretty sure when we play the Chiefs and Browns at home we will be favored, lol.
September 17th, 2012 at 7:37 am
Gotta go, check back later or tomorrow, have a good one.
September 17th, 2012 at 7:38 am
MikieG Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 7:34 am
So who are we going to pick with the number one overall choice in next years draft?
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The best player available that rates in the WCO/ZBS or the defensive scheme
September 17th, 2012 at 7:40 am
reggie will take the first undersized, slow overachieving “effort” player….
September 17th, 2012 at 7:40 am
We will be drafting a DB or a edge rusher with our top pick in the draft.
Defensive GM, defensive HC, major defensive issues.
Maybe a QB in the 2nd round, if Pryor is not in the future for the org.
Lineman, with a ZBS system, won’t be a point of emphasis until the mid to late rounds.
September 17th, 2012 at 7:40 am
Oakland 24 Pittsburgh 23…lol…how you like that boys? The Monday morning optimism has already struck..Here is my explanation:
1) The passing game has improved from game to game, and knapp is getting more aggressive with his calls. We are a pass first ball club now that teams know we can’t run if they stack the box. Palmer’s gona throw for 350 and a pair of TD’s.
2) Pittsburgh’s secondary is suspect, DMOORE played good for the first time being back, him and DHB gona have a break out.
3) Were gona have a break in special teams..im calling it. Maybe a return TD.
4) Our Defense plays a 60 minute game even after being burned by Wallace early on.
5) Were home, were 0-2, its do or die, TK and Seymour play pissed off and inspire the rest of the D…
?) We are due for a TURNOVER ON DEFENSE!!!! Maybe we get it in the fourth quarter when it matters…
September 17th, 2012 at 7:41 am
If we drafted bergstrom with out 1st pick why the hell ain’t he playin, we could of got a nt/dt or a olb pass rusher who could be starting and contributing like Burris!!
September 17th, 2012 at 7:42 am
Well at least we look like we got the better end of the Goodson-Campbell trade.
That slug is still inactive on gamedays in Carolina.
September 17th, 2012 at 7:42 am
Looking back, we signed Bartell to a 1 year 3 million deal, Denver signed the younger Tracy Porter to a 1 year 4 million deal, maybe we should have thrown a little more money at him, hope the DA connection was enough to lure him here.
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Portet!!!!
September 17th, 2012 at 7:43 am
I’m pretty sure when we play the Chiefs and Browns at home we will be favored, lol.
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Raids 3-18-1 ATS past 20 games as a favorite.
Load up and just fire, baby !
September 17th, 2012 at 7:43 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 7:40 am
We will be drafting a DB or a edge rusher with our top pick in the draft.
Defensive GM, defensive HC, major defensive issues.
Maybe a QB in the 2nd round, if Pryor is not in the future for the org.
Lineman, with a ZBS system, won’t be a point of emphasis until the mid to late rounds.
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It will have to be a 3rd rounder.
No 2nd rounder available because of last year’s interim GM
September 17th, 2012 at 7:44 am
Raider Riff Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 7:32 am
Nyraider Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 7:23 am
Raider Riff Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 7:19 am
Nyraider Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 7:11 am
Has Knapp ever turned something around. Some of us knew right away when Knapp was hired it was a mistake. Others needed a few preseason games, some needed 2 games into the season, some of you need an entire year that results in 4 or 5 wins. Bottom line when January rolls around we can all look back to the day when we lost to the dolphins which ended our season. Reggie took a team that went 8-8 and had a chance to go to the playoffs, replaced 22 guys , and brought in his guys as coaches. the results are his results and my biggest fear is reggie will keep knapp around for another year. With respect to this year in the next 3 games our best chance for a win is at home against pitt, no way manning or Miller dont eat up reggies low priced Cbs. 1-4 or 0-5 is not good enough and the reality of the situation is Reggie and his crew give me no confidence that they are the guys who can turn this around.
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I see. So you have confidence in the old way of doing things that worked so spectacularly for the last 30 years.
Again, lowest standards in the NFL.
Our fans would rather lose the Raider way than finally rebuild this thing in to a modern franchise.
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your a clown, where did i say i wanted the old way of doing things.
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The moment you start blaming the coaching staff, something you are not even remotely qualified to do, instead of blaming the players for obvious errors (penalties, lazy routes, dropped passes, missed tackles, missed blocks) then you are advocating the old way.
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well see how the season goes and how the coaches “coach em up” ..your Jeff George mancrush is probably the funniest thing ive read in awhile. yeah hes one of the best all time at reading defenses..keep posting cause i can tell how qualified you are to give good opinions…
September 17th, 2012 at 7:45 am
Its just pathetic to see Andrew Luck, RGIII and Russell Wilson execute their offenses against better competition and show competence…and in some ways excellence.
We have an ELITE QB and can’t sustain a doggone drive.
September 17th, 2012 at 7:46 am
Bob Marley Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 7:36 am
Raider Riff Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 7:33 am
Bob Marley Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 7:30 am
If Reggie didn’t think he could win with the core of this team, he should have made his move this year, get rid of every high salary vet, cut them, give them away for low draft picks, spent the season in salary cap hell and keep just the guys playing on rookie coantracts, fill out the roster with undrafted Free Agents and other team cast-offs who would play for the vetearn minimum, go full rebuld, win 1 game or 2 whatever, at least we would know what we were doing.
Most of us would have been ok with it, just start over if you think you can’t compete with the core of this team (debatable) instead we’re in limbo right now.
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He thought we could win. He was telling people that in private. He isnt the type to come out and say it publicly.
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I know he did, the plan isn’t working so far.
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Its giving him a chance to see who is made for the NFL and who isnt. I guess that is lemonade out of lemons cause yeah, we’re not as good as any of us thought, including him.
September 17th, 2012 at 7:46 am
It will have to be a 3rd rounder.
No 2nd rounder available because of last year’s interim GM
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Ah yes that is right.
Well, my hopes for Aaron Murray have been dashed, not picking him that early in the first round.
September 17th, 2012 at 7:47 am
Raids 3-18-1 ATS past 22 games as a favorite.
A meager $100 wager against the Raids in these games would have netted you a cool $1470.
Lots of diet rootbeer, my friend
September 17th, 2012 at 7:48 am
I see where everything is going….the anger and reality of the situation is setting in.
It will be helpful if the Raiders show in real ways that the rebuilding is about to begin.
Again, after week 4, provided the team can’t turn this around, the Raiders should go with wholesale changes
September 17th, 2012 at 7:48 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 7:42 am
Well at least we look like we got the better end of the Goodson-Campbell trade.
That slug is still inactive on gamedays in Carolina.
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Same with our 26 YO rookie OG. He is inactive on gamedays.
I was wrong about Goodson (so far). He is playing well, and he didn’t fumble.
September 17th, 2012 at 7:51 am
Same with our 26 YO rookie OG. He is inactive on gamedays.
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Not sure why either, with Briesel pooping the bed like he is.
We need to start planning on rotating these guys in for a series or so.
September 17th, 2012 at 7:51 am
#778: Injuries at WR didn’t help but it’s largely Knapp’s fault for changing the whole offensive system so drastically…Offense wasn’t our problem last year…Defense was.
September 17th, 2012 at 7:51 am
Haven’t looked at the lines yet JFB..
What do you make the Squeelers ?
-7 sounds about right.
Raids will get no respect after yesterday.
September 17th, 2012 at 7:51 am
Well, that’s that. I didn’t know how I was going to tell my Dad that I didn’t want to waste $ on this years team for our annual Raider game. It was going to be the Saints. He just emailed me and said yesterday was a joke. That we should call it off. An he is OG, there from the start of the franchise.
September 17th, 2012 at 7:52 am
Raider O Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 7:48 am
Same with our 26 YO rookie OG. He is inactive on gamedays.
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Simple explanation: The Raiders (like most teams) are only activating seven linemen on gameday, which obviously means only two backups. So one (Smith) will be the backup tackle, and the other (Parsons) will need to back up at guard AND center.
If Bergstrom were starting at LG right, Carlisle would be inactive on gamedays.
September 17th, 2012 at 7:52 am
*right now
September 17th, 2012 at 7:53 am
I wonder how the running back you all call “twinkle toes” would do in a system that emphasizes patience before hitting the right lane?
September 17th, 2012 at 7:54 am
Players to rebuild around:
-Offense:
DMAC
Reece
Moore
DHB
Veldheer
Wiz
Criner/ Streater
Ausberry/ Gordon
TP
TJ
-Defense:
Shaughnessy
Houston
Bryant
McClain
Burris
September 17th, 2012 at 7:54 am
If Bergstrom were starting at LG right, Carlisle would be inactive on gamedays.
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The sooner this happens, the better. Bergstrom needs to step up right now.
September 17th, 2012 at 7:54 am
The whole world is asking what did reg da and knapp do to make this team so bad so fast..
September 17th, 2012 at 7:56 am
CanuckRaider Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 7:51 am
#778: Injuries at WR didn’t help but it’s largely Knapp’s fault for changing the whole offensive system so drastically…Offense wasn’t our problem last year…Defense was.
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Even if the offense was radically changed, those rookies were learning new systems too.
I am just tired of this stuff man.
The vets have two weeks to show life. If they fail, they should go to the bench, the whole lot of them
September 17th, 2012 at 7:56 am
During training camp Michael Huff was saying how much he was looking forward to not having to play in Al’s mandatory defensive scheme. He said that this year would finally be different because Al was gone. Hey Huff…..it doesn’t seem to matter what scheme you idiots play in you still suck. Stop blaming Al for you and your boys being a bunch of lazy, overpaid, underachieving, worthless pieces of sh&t.
September 17th, 2012 at 7:56 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 7:54 am
If Bergstrom were starting at LG right, Carlisle would be inactive on gamedays.
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The sooner this happens, the better. Bergstrom needs to step up right now.
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Agreed. If we’re 0-4 at the bye, Reggie and DA may institute a wholesale youth movement.
September 17th, 2012 at 7:57 am
DHB can go
September 17th, 2012 at 7:58 am
losing seasons from 2003-2012 lol and the rebuilding begins now….lol..Makes me think those two 8-8 seasons were our window..two gimme games we lost in each of those seasons cost us playoffs..if they weren’t completely old and tired then..TK and SEYMOUR are done now..and so is our window..I still however, believe that we can still go 8-8 and complete the trio of 8-8 seasons…if the last two seasons were seasons hoping for that 9-7/10-6 finish..this year is the season im hoping for 8-8..maybe well get lucky and go 7-9..lol..i just wana have fun watching my team fellas..winning 7 or eight games and having some kind of outside playoff hope is worth it..i wont lose sleep over it
September 17th, 2012 at 7:58 am
Wishbone Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 7:56 am
During training camp Michael Huff was saying how much he was looking forward to not having to play in Al’s mandatory defensive scheme. He said that this year would finally be different because Al was gone. Hey Huff…..it doesn’t seem to matter what scheme you idiots play in you still suck. Stop blaming Al for you and your boys being a bunch of lazy, overpaid, underachieving, worthless pieces of sh&t.
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Amen
September 17th, 2012 at 7:59 am
Agreed. If we’re 0-4 at the bye, Reggie and DA may institute a wholesale youth movement.
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That’d be fine by me if we are (as looks probable) 0-4 at the bye.
Bergstrom in at LG, Willie Smith at RT, Bilukidi & Bryant as starting DTs, Pryor at QB.
Let ‘em learn and see what we got.
September 17th, 2012 at 8:00 am
I hope knapp see how hard it is for defenses to play the zone read and put a T Pryor package in there…
I mean look at Cam Newton and RGIII the fact that the defense has 2 respect the RB 1st then the runnning QB 2nd in hopes he doesn’t drop back and and hit a Wr now that’s a lot for a defensive player to diagnosis!
I not sayin T Pryor is those guys but he his the same talent and I’m sure he can make plays
See Tebow in Denver last season if u think it can’t be successful !!!
September 17th, 2012 at 8:01 am
only one thing to say ladies and gentleman, “GO A’s!!!”
September 17th, 2012 at 8:01 am
CanuckRaider Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 7:51 am
#778: Injuries at WR didn’t help but it’s largely Knapp’s fault for changing the whole offensive system so drastically…Offense wasn’t our problem last year…Defense was.
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Defense and offense are a problem now, but don’t Blame the OC. Blame the same players who were here last season.
September 17th, 2012 at 8:01 am
Trade everybody now…. the team has decided that knapp and his system is important than our offensive roster and winning games this season…. bad decision. Not an oc to build around.
September 17th, 2012 at 8:02 am
Michael Huff should praise Al Davis. For without Al’s belief in Huff, he would be out of the league or maybe a reserve he certainly wouldn’t have gotten a 2nd payday
September 17th, 2012 at 8:05 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 7:59 am
Agreed. If we’re 0-4 at the bye, Reggie and DA may institute a wholesale youth movement.
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That’d be fine by me if we are (as looks probable) 0-4 at the bye.
Bergstrom in at LG, Willie Smith at RT, Bilukidi & Bryant as starting DTs, Pryor at QB.
Let ‘em learn and see what we got.
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Yep. 0-4 and its TP time. Might as well make things interesting. No other logical reason than that.
2-2 and it means the light bulb finally came on. It will at some point. Sooner or later these guys are going to realize that Al is gone and that the pay checks are going to dry up. No other team is going to want this garbage.
Losing is a cancer and it is hard to shake. Winning teams sometimes win games they should lose just because of the locker room culture. That used to be us, a LONG time ago.
Someone on this team needs to step up and be a leader. Vocally & physically in the locker room. A straight up dressing down of the guys not cutting it. Right now, we dont have that vocal leader yet. DMC tries to show by example, so does Ro. Carson has to show more fire and start going all Cutler on some of these guys not pulling their weight.
But if that dont happen, it will be 0-4 and then reality will really set in for these bums.
September 17th, 2012 at 8:05 am
Bob Marley Says:September 16th, 2012 at 11:31 pmColts, Rams, Dolphins and Bucs are breaking in new systems with new Head Coaches and Offensive Coordinators, just like us.2012 Colts: 22 ppg, up from 15.2 in 20112012 Rams: 27 ppg, up from 12.1 in 20112012 Bucs: 25 ppg, up from 17.9 in 20112012 Dolphins: 22.5 ppg, up from 20.6 in 2011- Oakland Raiders: 13.5, down from 22.4 in 2011.
September 17th, 2012 at 8:06 am
I feel bad for DMAC. He’s a warrior and a competitor. It’s gotta wear on him mentally, to be receiving the hand off, and consistently run straight into a wall every damn time. Even on the perimeter runs, he’s got like 4 defenders in persuit with maybe ONE blocker. What the hell is he supposed to do?
LUNGE forward and maximize the run. 2 yards IS a good gain with that crap. You can tell it’s bringin him down, he dropped that would be TD. He makes mistakes when frusterated.
September 17th, 2012 at 8:07 am
Time has come to dump the dead weight (Seymour, Kelly, Houston, Curry, Huff), trade the few pieces of worth (Dmac & Palmer), let the young guys play out the season, draft well and look for quality free agents. You look at Mark & Reggie side by side and they are president and CEO of the idiot club. Bozo the clown and Reggie da pooh. If Hue wasn’t so hubris things would be different, but I bet you he was sippin on an Irish coffee watching the highlights.
September 17th, 2012 at 8:07 am
The whole world is asking what did reg da and knapp do to make this team so bad so fast..
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I know one way it can get better fast.
Shtcan Knapp.
And if Tits don’t like it, he can take a hike too.
Not going to happen though.
September 17th, 2012 at 8:08 am
This O-Line had been a top 5 rushing O Line over the last few years under Cable and Hue.
Why change the one thing that has been working for you?
All is not lost we need Al Saunders to take over this offense and continue to work on the D and we can get back to 8-8 maybe.
September 17th, 2012 at 8:09 am
#794: We’re all getting tired of this SnB…We are now officially in rebuild mode…What pisses me off is that the offense didn’t need to be drastically changed…Knapp has sacrificed the early part of our schedule to install “his” system…Well, guess what?…We’re just about done as far as playoff aspirations already…Just as we head into the meat and potatoes part of the schedule.
September 17th, 2012 at 8:11 am
MHuff = the invisible man.
Only time you ntice #24 is when you see him trailing the opposition into the end zone.
Big mouth, but never a big play.
A real turd even in a real defense.
September 17th, 2012 at 8:12 am
Hue Jackson had a #9 ranked offense with McFadden out 8 games and 2 different starting QB’s.
Anything less is complete and utter failure!
September 17th, 2012 at 8:14 am
Greg Papa has always been very concerned since Knapp has been hired on 95.7 FM the Game. When we had Al Saunders on the staff and who’s one of the best off minds that suits our personnel, I really don’t know why we had to get a retread like Knapp. Can the press guys do me a favor? The next time Knapp mentions “chess pieces or chess match etc”, can the press guys ask him to cut the BS.
One thing I clearly remember Saunders mentioning last year is when we enter red zone, you’ve to be able to run the ball. Unfortunately with this offense as seen from the preseason, we can’t run the ball and we are very good at moving the ball between the 20s. So these stats that Palmer is having is BS at best.
This season’s done. If we get 4-5 wins, we should be lucky. I still have 7 games to go to at the Coliseum and while this Sunday is a sell out, I am sure it’ll be a ghost town of max 40K in attendance from Oct unless a miracle happens in the next 3 weeks. Very sad to see a team that was so close to the playoffs last year to now being in contention for a top 5 pick.
September 17th, 2012 at 8:15 am
Listen to the players.. all IS lost… they feel like the work and the practice is great but on sunday we stink.. its clear theyve lost confidence in the coaches and the effort has started to decline.. they know they were only a play away from a home playoff game… now they just want the season over..
September 17th, 2012 at 8:15 am
So we have the same lazy tackling, can’t stop the big play defense we’ve always had.
I thought DA was supposed to infuse discipline and accountability etc.
Penalties are down…whoopdee freaking doo.
You either win or you lose…
So far, this new regime is nothing but a total failure.
September 17th, 2012 at 8:16 am
If you could press a button that would guarantee that the Raids win the SB for the next 10 years straight, but by touching the button you would die – what would you do ?
I’d pick up Knapp and slam his pointy little head into the button.
September 17th, 2012 at 8:16 am
Yeah the playoffs are out of the question with this team this year.
We need to save face and try to get to 8-8.
We were 8-8 last year anything less than that is is FAILURE!
September 17th, 2012 at 8:17 am
At first I wanted to give the new coach and staff a chance . But after seeing that display of poor play I can’t. They simply look like schit DA is all talk with his crappy philosophy. If some things wrong fix it , right ? Well this offense is terrible and Knapp is making Mcfadden look like a MCdouble . Knapp stubborn ass will continue with his crappy plays and blame the players until we are 0-16 . He will Probaly bench Palmer for Leinart soon since he is that fckin STUPID !
September 17th, 2012 at 8:17 am
riff
I have been reading your posts and have a question? You keep saying its the players not the coaching, in saying that, were you upset we let bresnahan walk?
September 17th, 2012 at 8:18 am
The more I think the more worried I am about the CBs.
Pat Lee made Ryan Tannehill look like Peyton Manning. Joselio Hanson was forced to the outside and he’s nothing but a slot guy. Did the Dolphins throw at Spencer even once? I know they didn’t in the 1st half.
The list of CBs out there is thin.
They could bring up Chekwa off the practice squad.
Chris Carr and Syd’Quan Thompson are the only two free agents really worth a look.
Isaiah Frey, a 6th round rookie out of Nebraska is on the Bears practice squad. Greg McCoy, a 7th round rookie out of TCU is on Arizona’s. Those are the only CBs on practice squads worth a look. Don’t know how good they’d be…they certainly can’t be worse though.
Only problem is when you sign a player off another team’s practice squad you have to keep them on your 53 man the whole season. So if they suck, they’d just be eating up a spot.
Bring up Chekwa and sign Carr and Thompson is my call. Waive Lee and Francies.
Spencer
Carr
Hanson
Chekwa
Thompson
Adams
Play Huff at corner more.
That’s the best solution for the CB situation I can find right now.
September 17th, 2012 at 8:18 am
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September 17th, 2012 at 8:18 am
A question for Krapp: Why weren’t we running an uptempo no-huddle to wear down Miami’s defense in the heat and humidity?…I was asking myself this all game.
September 17th, 2012 at 8:19 am
So far, this new regime is nothing but a total failure.
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Two games in, man. Two awful schitty games, yes, but two games in.
What would you do? Fire Reggie and DA and start all over again? And then when the next GM/coach start out 0-2?
September 17th, 2012 at 8:20 am
“This season’s done. If we get 4-5 wins, we should be lucky. I still have 7 games to go to at the Coliseum and while this Sunday is a sell out, I am sure it’ll be a ghost town of max 40K in attendance from Oct unless a miracle happens in the next 3 weeks. Very sad to see a team that was so close to the playoffs last year to now being in contention for a top 5 pick.”
I agree with you here we went from a team that was one game away from the playoffs to a cellar dweller!!
September 17th, 2012 at 8:20 am
#822: Lee and Hanson made Hartline look like Megatron…Played like scared rabbits.
September 17th, 2012 at 8:20 am
824.CanuckRaider Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 8:18 am
A question for Krapp: Why weren’t we running an uptempo no-huddle to wear down Miami’s defense in the heat and humidity?…I was asking myself this all game.
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A VERY good question. Papa said 2 or 3 times on the radio that Palmer LOVES the no-huddle and it’s his favorite to run.
Guess who calls the plays during the no-huddle too? THE QUARTERBACK.
Is Knapp refusing to run the no-huddle because he doesn’t want anyone calling plays but himself?
September 17th, 2012 at 8:21 am
Allen and knapp must be buddies from their time in atlanta.. thats all i can figure.. only an idiot would try to polish that turd.. fuçking joke.. the worst part is our offense is talened and young… but they ALL have to go. Just to suit gregry knapp.. FUÇK YOU KNAPP!!! YOU TOO HOFFMAN YOU BUM!
September 17th, 2012 at 8:23 am
A question for Krapp: Why weren’t we running an uptempo no-huddle to wear down Miami’s defense in the heat and humidity?…I was asking myself this all game.
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Cause he is a idiot turd sandwhich who does not like to game plan using his players strengths. Fck DA FCK KNapp and right now fck Reg MAC and his crappy as decision making …
September 17th, 2012 at 8:23 am
Knapp needs to be hanged. Dennis Allen too for hiring that piece of trash that has sucked everywhere he ever went.
September 17th, 2012 at 8:24 am
828: Damn good question…and Miami wouldn’t have been able to do likewise with a rookie QB…Carson looked great running it last year.
September 17th, 2012 at 8:24 am
811.Silverandblack666 Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 8:08 am
This O-Line had been a top 5 rushing O Line over the last few years under Cable and Hue.
Why change the one thing that has been working for you?
All is not lost we need Al Saunders to take over this offense and continue to work on the D and we can get back to 8-8 maybe.
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If we are depending on Al Saunders to take over the offense as our reason for any hope and saving the season than we are in fact done.
DA is going to staunchly, proudly and ignorantly stick to this b.s way of doing things.
You’d think a 1st yr. HC would want to make a mark and actually have winning games as his first priority…not with this guy.
He is going to defiantly stick to something that isn’t working and be inflexible, even in the face of the whole world knowing it’s the wrong thing to do.
When coaches are defiant like that the only thing that exonerates them is the scoreboard. He doesn’t have that to point to so he’s just gonna fallback on “i’ve seen it work”. Fine, but not here numbnutz.
I have no faith in this new era of excrement. Until they show me they can win a freaking ball game I will remain unimpressed and doubtful.
September 17th, 2012 at 8:25 am
DA and RM need to admit they made a mistake and let Al Saunders run this offense so DA can focus on fixing the D.
I have to say I was very impressed with Bartell and Spencer is a really good tackler, it was obvious last week when Bartell went down all the sudden Rivers could throw anywhere.
September 17th, 2012 at 8:26 am
Theres 3 posters that want to keep krapp.. short list.. bum
September 17th, 2012 at 8:26 am
Is Knapp really that bad? I was willing to have an open mind, but after that debacle, I have the same feelings I had to Hue after the Packer/Dolphin games last year.
Bad is bad. Beatings like that followed by more losing is just garbage coaching, horrible players and lousy direction.
Even with Knapp, there is no reason why a vet QB, vet RB and Vet WR (DHB) with a vet O-Line and DMoore that the offense is not competent to sustain a couple of drives.
Hell, those rooks in Miami, Washington, Indy and Seattle learned enough to execute a COMPETENT offense.
Those guys, Knapp and the players, with the exception of DMoore are junk here. Just step up!
Defense, too much dead weight
September 17th, 2012 at 8:26 am
Bunk Moorland Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 8:17 am
riff
I have been reading your posts and have a question? You keep saying its the players not the coaching, in saying that, were you upset we let bresnahan walk?
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Nope. But if youre really reading my posts you know that I feel that was a completely different situation than what we are doing now.
Bres had RoMac covering Megatron. End of debate there. I havent seen any sort of major blunder like that by our current staff. Just major blunders by the players.
Chris Johnson is having issues too. I didnt know he had it in him but he’s taking control and calling out his fellow players.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000063315/article/chris-johnson-frustrated-by-tennessee-titans-offense
Lets see who gets results first. The guys who look in the mirror or the guys who point the finger at the system.
September 17th, 2012 at 8:27 am
Ice cube the douchbag is on first take being stupid.
Lots of ands, buts, you knows, uummmm, etc.
His bottom line on what is wrong with the team =
The players dont have heart or passion and the coaches have to find a way to get the players to play harder.
I thought he was a little brighter, he is a low beam
September 17th, 2012 at 8:28 am
Marks Hair Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 8:26 am
Theres 3 posters that want to keep krapp.. short list.. bum
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“Even if you are a minority of one, the truth is the truth.” Mahatma Gandhi
Proving what a bunch of idiots you all are.
September 17th, 2012 at 8:28 am
New era of excrement
September 17th, 2012 at 8:28 am
Raiders still had a chance ..Palmer missing some wide open targets and Pat Lee allowing the same hook route over and over cost us the game ..our D was fatigued in the 2nd half and the O needed To stay on the field longer but no they just hate to sh17 the bed and Lee had to make sure he played 20 yards of the receiver so they could easily complete the same hook route again and again on 3rd and 10 ,3rd and 8 ..etc
September 17th, 2012 at 8:28 am
I lost all faith in Dennis the menace.He acts like he wants this team to be a contender but all his moves like hiring Knapp and changing the offense says the opposite. He rather do things his way even if its wrong and not working. Doing things your way even though it does not work is INSANE ! Oh and FCK Knapp too!
September 17th, 2012 at 8:29 am
we’ll get matt barkley, and he’ll suck, and we’ll suck for another decade
September 17th, 2012 at 8:29 am
You can’t put Saunders in. It takes months to install an offense. Mid-season is too late
At best you could have him call the plays or maybe DeFillipo.
DA is 100% dedicated to Knapp…they will build the offense (as another poster said) around the O.C and not around DMAC.
It is what it is
September 17th, 2012 at 8:29 am
Jim Harbaugh had zero NFL head coaching experience when he took over the 49ers and they almost won th NFC championship game. We get stuck with Dennis Allen and the POS Greg Knapp… if we can’t beat the sorry ass Dolphins… who can we beat?
September 17th, 2012 at 8:29 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 8:20 am
824.CanuckRaider Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 8:18 am
A question for Krapp: Why weren’t we running an uptempo no-huddle to wear down Miami’s defense in the heat and humidity?…I was asking myself this all game.
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A VERY good question. Papa said 2 or 3 times on the radio that Palmer LOVES the no-huddle and it’s his favorite to run.
Guess who calls the plays during the no-huddle too? THE QUARTERBACK.
Is Knapp refusing to run the no-huddle because he doesn’t want anyone calling plays but himself?
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Were not running the no huddle because currently our guys cant run solid routes with a huddle. It will only get worse when we hurry things up.
September 17th, 2012 at 8:30 am
SnB Offense Defense Specialteams Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 8:29 am
You can’t put Saunders in. It takes months to install an offense. Mid-season is too late
At best you could have him call the plays or maybe DeFillipo.
DA is 100% dedicated to Knapp…they will build the offense (as another poster said) around the O.C and not around DMAC.
It is what it is
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Every single person calling for a midseason scheme change is a huge idiot.
September 17th, 2012 at 8:31 am
GOOD MORNING NATION
and my GreenParty brothers !!!!
September 17th, 2012 at 8:32 am
How did Knapp even get the OC job? He wasn’t the OC in Houston. He was only the QB coach. Why would they change the offense so radically when it was solid last year even with the injuries? DA is supposed to be some defensive guru, but instead it’s exactly the same because some core players and schemes. Biggest difference in the defense is only dbs who shouldn’t even be in the league. Don’t see this team being better than 3-13.
September 17th, 2012 at 8:32 am
mcfadden20. Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 8:28 am
Raiders still had a chance ..Palmer missing some wide open targets
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Can’t have that! And he missed several open targets that would have led to big plays.
You are right though…Raiders still have a chance. They have to dig deep and think about whether they care about their future careers (cause for many of them this is the last stop) and what they think of their legacy.
A lot of these guys are close to having to “work” for a living
September 17th, 2012 at 8:32 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 8:25 am
DA and RM need to admit they made a mistake and let Al Saunders run this offense so DA can focus on fixing the D.
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DA has no nuts that is why he hired Knapp as his OC. Matches his personality and coaching style.
September 17th, 2012 at 8:32 am
dmac didn’t help by dropping a thousand passes
September 17th, 2012 at 8:33 am
Its ok riff.. your cant learn what you havent done yourself.. its common among jocks..(dumb) but try to understand that some of us can learn through observation…. we knew this wouldnt work before it began…
September 17th, 2012 at 8:33 am
Reggie says he talks to Mark every other day. I wonder what Mark thinks of this. Does he care about winning this year?
Is he giving Reggie a hard time about this horrible start? And what is Reggie telling Mark?
I’d be interested to know how much Mark cares about winning this yr.
If he had a problem with Hue not closing the deal on getting to the playoffs then he sure as heck can’t like what he’s seeing right now.
I have no idea if Mark even watches the games to be honest.
September 17th, 2012 at 8:35 am
I have never seen anybody been unable to cover the same route over and over in the same game and easily allowed a completetion on 3rd down …never ever in my life seen that
September 17th, 2012 at 8:35 am
I wish the rams hired Allen after they had interviewed him for their HC opening. Maybe we could have had Jeff Fisher.
September 17th, 2012 at 8:36 am
Plunketthead Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 8:27 am
Ice cube the douchbag is on first take being stupid.
Lots of ands, buts, you knows, uummmm, etc.
His bottom line on what is wrong with the team =
The players dont have heart or passion and the coaches have to find a way to get the players to play harder.
I thought he was a little brighter, he is a low beam
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I really wish he’d root for another team.
Guy is a talentless simpleton and I resent my Raiders being associated with him.
September 17th, 2012 at 8:36 am
Marks Hair Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 8:33 am
Its ok riff.. your cant learn what you havent done yourself.. its common among jocks..(dumb) but try to understand that some of us can learn through observation…. we knew this wouldnt work before it began…
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Youre trying to observe a scheme and language that you have no clue how to speak.
You dont need to be able to run a 4.3 to know that a receiver is running a lazy route and dropping balls.
Stick to evaluating what you can legitimately evaluate. Otherwise, send your credentials into Reggie. If you know what youre talking about, he’ll hire you.
September 17th, 2012 at 8:36 am
its not knapp or allen completely fellas..guys gota F’in tackle!!!!
September 17th, 2012 at 8:38 am
Its a complete waste of a yr…. thats all on reg & the coaching staff
September 17th, 2012 at 8:38 am
Mcfadden20. Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 8:35 am
I have never seen anybody been unable to cover the same route over and over in the same game and easily allowed a completetion on 3rd down …never ever in my life seen that
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That was maddening. I have no idea why we were playing off so much. I know we got poor CBs, but they have poor WRs. It should have been an even matchup. It wasnt.
But even when the players are in position to make the play, our DBs miss four straight tackles and let Reggie walk into the endzone. So go figure.
September 17th, 2012 at 8:38 am
#846: If that’s the case it falls on Krapp and he who hired him…We ran a good no-huddle last year…We could also run the ball…What do we do now?…Use draft picks to bring in west coast style offensive players instead of shoring up our defensive weaknesses?…Total rebuild where shoring up was all that was needed.
September 17th, 2012 at 8:39 am
“Even if you are a minority of one, the truth is the truth.” Mahatma Gandhi
Proving what a bunch of idiots you all are.
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Assuming you are part of an intelligent minority who knows the truth, or it could you are part of the minority because you lack common sense and logic, and what you are saying is too ignorant that the majority of people can’t agree with your ignorant ideas.
September 17th, 2012 at 8:39 am
I am at peace with the team. I accept each week as a chance to win and although I feel a little ill during games, I quickly recover and all is well after a nights rest.
I knew that when Al passed, the Raiders would never again be the same team so my expectations were not as high as many who felt Al was the devil and him dieing would cure all our ills and we would once again win SB’s
The Raiders were (IMHO) a below 500 team last year, same with the year before when we went 8-8 under pimphand. Last years team was terrible, we looked awful most the time.
Last years Raiders lost 4 of their last five games getting blown out in most. We were lucky to beat the Bears and we just barely beat a real weak KC team.
Bottom line = last years team was not anywhere near a playoff team, especially in the last half.
September 17th, 2012 at 8:39 am
From Allen’s inaugural presser:
Q: Is Saunders in the mix?
Allen: The type of OC I’m looking for is really, at the end of the day, the same things I talked about offensively and what we want to do. We want to be a up-tempo offense that can run the ball and be explosive in the passing game. So those are the things that we’re looking for, for guys that can get that accomplished. Al Saunders is a guy that is under contract with us right now. Again, we’re exploring all our opportunities … err our avenues, excuse me, as far as what we’re going to do there.
Up tempo offense that can run the ball and be explosive in the passing game. FAIL, FAIL, FAIL!
September 17th, 2012 at 8:40 am
Raider Riff Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 8:26 am
Bunk Moorland Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 8:17 am
riff
I have been reading your posts and have a question? You keep saying its the players not the coaching, in saying that, were you upset we let bresnahan walk?
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Nope. But if youre really reading my posts you know that I feel that was a completely different situation than what we are doing now.
Bres had RoMac covering Megatron. End of debate there. I havent seen any sort of major blunder like that by our current staff. Just major blunders by the players.
Chris Johnson is having issues too. I didnt know he had it in him but he’s taking control and calling out his fellow players.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000063315/article/chris-johnson-frustrated-by-tennessee-titans-offense
Lets see who gets results first. The guys who look in the mirror or the guys who point the finger at the system.——————————————————————————————————-
so a screen pass to goodson for 64 yard touchdown and never running that play again is not a blunder?
September 17th, 2012 at 8:41 am
Raider O Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 8:39 am
“Even if you are a minority of one, the truth is the truth.” Mahatma Gandhi
Proving what a bunch of idiots you all are.
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Assuming you are part of an intelligent minority who knows the truth, or it could you are part of the minority because you lack common sense and logic, and what you are saying is too ignorant that the majority of people can’t agree with your ignorant ideas.
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The majority are idiots. Its been proven throughout human history.
Pick the underdog every time and you’ll be right more often than wrong. There is a reason the favorites are favored, its called public opinion.
September 17th, 2012 at 8:41 am
palmer has to stop throwing high to open receivers too..o-lines gotta create cut back lanes, and defense has to tackle..plain and simple
September 17th, 2012 at 8:42 am
Bunk Moorland Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 8:40 am
Raider Riff Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 8:26 am
Bunk Moorland Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 8:17 am
riff
I have been reading your posts and have a question? You keep saying its the players not the coaching, in saying that, were you upset we let bresnahan walk?
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Nope. But if youre really reading my posts you know that I feel that was a completely different situation than what we are doing now.
Bres had RoMac covering Megatron. End of debate there. I havent seen any sort of major blunder like that by our current staff. Just major blunders by the players.
Chris Johnson is having issues too. I didnt know he had it in him but he’s taking control and calling out his fellow players.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000063315/article/chris-johnson-frustrated-by-tennessee-titans-offense
Lets see who gets results first. The guys who look in the mirror or the guys who point the finger at the system.——————————————————————————————————-
so a screen pass to goodson for 64 yard touchdown and never running that play again is not a blunder?
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We tried two other screens.
Once DHB got shoe string tackled. On another the Dolphins sniffed it out. I think there may have been a third they sniffed out but Im not 100% on that. I’ll have to watch the game a few more times.
September 17th, 2012 at 8:43 am
jimmyball12 Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 8:41 am
palmer has to stop throwing high to open receivers too..
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Yes, Palmer isnt very accurate at all…not for the money and draft picks
September 17th, 2012 at 8:43 am
Could be*
September 17th, 2012 at 8:43 am
What also happened was Reg took his precious time to hire a freaking coach and by the time he hired DA all the good coordinators were gone too ..I think they just did this Knapp hiring just it was almost draft time …But if his O keeps TOs down and we play physical football on both sides and limit TOs then it’s a good hire..but we barely get 2 yards off a pop and our freaking play selection sucks..he had to freaking call a run on every second and long so thAt we can only get a yard out of it and put Palmer in a bigger hole to get a first down on 3rd down ?
September 17th, 2012 at 8:44 am
That was maddening. I have no idea why we were playing off so much. I know we got poor CBs, but they have poor WRs. It should have been an even matchup. It wasnt.
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Dennis Allen style of D. Let them catch and then try to steal it.
September 17th, 2012 at 8:44 am
“You can’t put Saunders in. It takes months to install an offense. Mid-season is too late
At best you could have him call the plays or maybe DeFillipo.
DA is 100% dedicated to Knapp…they will build the offense (as another poster said) around the O.C and not around DMAC.
It is what it is”
Good post
September 17th, 2012 at 8:44 am
Raider Riff Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 8:26 am
Bunk Moorland Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 8:17 am
riff
I have been reading your posts and have a question? You keep saying its the players not the coaching, in saying that, were you upset we let bresnahan walk?
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Nope. But if youre really reading my posts you know that I feel that was a completely different situation than what we are doing now.
Bres had RoMac covering Megatron. End of debate there. I havent seen any sort of major blunder like that by our current staff. Just major blunders by the players.
Chris Johnson is having issues too. I didnt know he had it in him but he’s taking control and calling out his fellow players.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000063315/article/chris-johnson-frustrated-by-tennessee-titans-offense
Lets see who gets results first. The guys who look in the mirror or the guys who point the finger at the system.——————————————————————————————————-
after seeing what wiz can do at left gaurd and moving him to center, thats not a blunder?
September 17th, 2012 at 8:44 am
#867: That’s a pretty egotistical viewpoint Riff…Brings to mind a self-styled “genius” I know who lives in a cheap hotel room above a bar.
September 17th, 2012 at 8:44 am
CanuckRaider Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 8:38 am
#846: If that’s the case it falls on Krapp and he who hired him…We ran a good no-huddle last year…We could also run the ball…What do we do now?…Use draft picks to bring in west coast style offensive players instead of shoring up our defensive weaknesses?…Total rebuild where shoring up was all that was needed.
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We went 1-4 down the stretch. We were not that good. We are not that good.
We lost early games we should have won. We won games when we didnt shoot ourselves in the feet. We’d win games this year if we didnt shoot ourselves in the feet.
September 17th, 2012 at 8:44 am
I would have expected DHB and Palmer to be tightly in synch given they have all that time together.
DHB should be moved into the slot
September 17th, 2012 at 8:45 am
CanuckRaider Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 8:44 am
#867: That’s a pretty egotistical viewpoint Riff…Brings to mind a self-styled “genius” I know who lives in a cheap hotel room above a bar.
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Its not egotistical. Its a fact. Check the records. Bet against the favorite in the NFL and you’ll win 60% of the time.
The mob is fickle.
September 17th, 2012 at 8:46 am
screen to goodson not the wr.
September 17th, 2012 at 8:46 am
What about how our defensive schemes were supposed to confuse other teams and be improved?..and then they get shellacked by a team that was “supposed” to be the worst in the AFC.
Gannon was wrong about us. We aren’t the 6th worst… we are THE WORST…until proven otherwise.
Don’t worry, DA “has seen it work”. Yeah and i’ve seen good teams win Super Bowls…doesn’t mean we will.
September 17th, 2012 at 8:48 am
Dakota and marks hair, at least we have the Lake show to look forward too. Damn I was thinking about gettin the Sunday ticket but I don’t know if I want to.
September 17th, 2012 at 8:48 am
Bunk Moorland Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 8:46 am
screen to goodson not the wr.
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Screen to DMC but he dropped it.
Palmer could have audibled at any time to a screen when he saw the blitz coming. He didnt do one audible yesterday. Reminded me of JC. Palmer had a bad day.
September 17th, 2012 at 8:48 am
I imagine Dmac leaving the Raiders and having a great career running in a system that fits him … FCK DA and Knapp and Reg Mac … They all don’t know sh!T
September 17th, 2012 at 8:49 am
#877: With the exception of the Miami debacle last year, which was a total team collapse, it was our defense that cost us those games…The offense was fine against Detroit and San Diego.
September 17th, 2012 at 8:49 am
Palmer my man has TO connect with wide open receivers and we can’t call run plays ever again on 2nd and long ..please stop that sh1t already
September 17th, 2012 at 8:49 am
Qodrn1 Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 10:51 am
Raider Prediction Board
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Week 1: Alex7: Chargers 27 Raiders 20 (22/14)
Barry_McKockiner: OAK 27~MIA 24
Carl Weathers: Raiders 19-9
cheese puff: Oakland Raiders 51 Miami Dolphins 10
Dakota: 21-10 raiders
davidon: Fins 20 Raiders 17
Eastoaklamdraider: Raiders 27-Dolphins 13
EMRaiders: OAK 24 MIA 13
Mr Green: Raidahs 38 dolphins 3
IndianaRaider: miami 23 – oakland 20
Just Fire Baby: Raiders 34 Land Sharks 3
Klas Tjorborn: after close win over Miami,
Raiders 30, Steelers 21 (?)
mcfadden20: Raiders 27-13 Dolphins
MEX_GHOST: Raiders 26…..vs…..Miami 17
MiamiRaider78: Raiders 23 Ballphins 14
MonumentRaider: OAK-27 MIA-24
neilb: Raiders 20 – 10.
nwr8r: Raiders 17, Poke 6
PlunkforHOF: My beloved Raiders 17 Bottom feeders 6
purvisman: 28-13 RAIDERS!!
qodrn: Raiders 28 Miami 14
r8eray: 20-13 Dolphins
RaiderDuck: Raiders, 27-10
RAIDERMAN99: Fins 23 Raids 6
Raider O: Raiders 16 Mia 13
raiderinparadise: Jon Condo plays we win: 48-13
Jon Condo doesn’t play: 31-14
RaiderRetribution: Raiders 31 Miami 0
raidertbone: Raiders 26, Dolphins 17
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I think I won!
September 17th, 2012 at 8:50 am
Does anybody think DHB is one the top 15 WRs in the league? Or just that he is paid like one…
I don’t hate the guy, but he is taking up resources (Cap space) that could have brought in another playmaker or kept a playmaker…$+8M Cap
BTW, I feel the same way about Palmer…$+11M Cap
September 17th, 2012 at 8:52 am
No explosive plays no running game.. just one lucky uncovered backup running back…
September 17th, 2012 at 8:53 am
CanuckRaider Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 8:49 am
#877: With the exception of the Miami debacle last year, which was a total team collapse, it was our defense that cost us those games…The offense was fine against Detroit and San Diego.
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Sure, the D sucked too.
But stop acting like Hue had us as world beaters. His players made the same dumb critical errors. Look at every game we lost. The offense made mistakes at critical junctures. Ive already listed them all.
But keep remembering it the way you want too.
September 17th, 2012 at 8:53 am
Its not egotistical. Its a fact. Check the records. Bet against the favorite in the NFL and you’ll win 60% of the time.
The mob is fickle.
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Yeah, I am sure that the line had nothing to do with a short week, flying all the way across the county for a early game and the team has to wear their black Jerseys…thanks NFL. You guys gave us the short stick…and we poked ourselves in the eye with it.
September 17th, 2012 at 8:53 am
Hindsight is always 20/20 but I think DA should have called a TO on that 3rd and 1 play no huddle play where Reg scored … We were winning the game… N could have been just tied if they stopped them to a fg
September 17th, 2012 at 8:53 am
And with the 1st pick of the 2013 NFL Draft the Oakland Raiders select…?
September 17th, 2012 at 8:55 am
The majority are idiots. Its been proven throughout human history.
Pick the underdog every time and you’ll be right more often than wrong. There is a reason the favorites are favored, its called public opinion.
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According to human history every majority has been wrong, and only the minorities knew the truth?
Interesting.
September 17th, 2012 at 8:56 am
@Raider Riff
So what is wrong with the running game?
We need to send the O-Line to a ropes course?
September 17th, 2012 at 8:56 am
#890: What I’m remembering are facts…Hue did make some dumb decisions but my point holds up to scrutiny…Check our offensive stats and rankings…Now look at same for our first two games this year…Facts don’t lie Riff.
September 17th, 2012 at 8:56 am
DutchRaider77 Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 8:50 am
Does anybody think DHB is one the top 15 WRs in the league? Or just that he is paid like one…
I don’t hate the guy, but he is taking up resources (Cap space) that could have brought in another playmaker or kept a playmaker…$+8M Cap
BTW, I feel the same way about Palmer…$+11M Cap
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That’s $19MM for a receiver that looks good on paper and an elite QB that isn’t good enough to put the team on his back.
A lot of talent could be had/retained for $19MM
September 17th, 2012 at 8:57 am
Mcfadden20. Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 8:53 am
Hindsight is always 20/20 but I think DA should have called a TO on that 3rd and 1 play no huddle play where Reg scored … We were winning the game… N could have been just tied if they stopped them to a fg
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A time out doesnt make it so your team all of a sudden knows how to seal an edge or take a good angle on a runner.
We’ve seen this so many times before. We have to look at the one constant left, the players.
September 17th, 2012 at 8:57 am
Hue’s offense disappeared in 2nd halfs and his teams looked awful agaist Green Bay, Miami and Kansas City.
Glad Hue is gone
September 17th, 2012 at 8:57 am
Go Lakers… thats how you run a team. Build around your stars dummies.
September 17th, 2012 at 8:58 am
we will be fine though ..DA is a rookie coach ,we’re with him atleast 3 years ..rem Belichic wasn’t this master genius with Cleveland either and other coaches that didn’t get started on the right foot .. Not all coaches get to come into a perfect situation Ala Harbaugh Niners where the D is set and just get it to improve a little bit more and they can play a physical style game on both sides and limit TOs and just win
September 17th, 2012 at 8:58 am
#899: I’m glad Hue is gone too…Hiring Krapp was a big mistake though.
September 17th, 2012 at 8:58 am
CanuckRaider Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 8:56 am
#890: What I’m remembering are facts…Hue did make some dumb decisions but my point holds up to scrutiny…Check our offensive stats and rankings…Now look at same for our first two games this year…Facts don’t lie Riff.
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1-4
Players that choke.
Those are the facts.
September 17th, 2012 at 8:59 am
Raiders 24 Steelers 23
September 17th, 2012 at 9:01 am
CanuckRaider Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 8:58 am
#899: I’m glad Hue is gone too…Hiring Krapp was a big mistake though.
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Agreed….still not completely understanding why it HAD to be Knapp…but oh well
September 17th, 2012 at 9:02 am
#903: Yes…Defensive players that choked or were put in stupid positions by an anachronistic scheme…Thank you.
September 17th, 2012 at 9:02 am
I believe we are in good hands … N I believe we hired DA little too late to bring In a better OC .. All the good ones were taken by that time … Knapp just need to stop calling that run play on 2nd an long an just get us into a manageable 3rd downs n we will be fine I think
September 17th, 2012 at 9:03 am
That’s $19MM for a receiver that looks good on paper and an elite QB that isn’t good enough to put the team on his back.
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How is Palmer ELITE again ? Don’t you have to be a WINNER to be elite . If by Elite you mean a guy who can throw for yards and not score…
September 17th, 2012 at 9:04 am
And to think I laughed at all the experts predicting us to finish amongst the bottom 5-10. Turns out they were being generous based on what we’ve seen so far. SMH
September 17th, 2012 at 9:04 am
Week 3 BOLD prediction:
Palmer goes down and Leinart leads the Raiders to their 1st win
DMC rushes over 100 + TD
Moore +100 receiving + TD
Meyer +70 receiving + TD
September 17th, 2012 at 9:04 am
Steelers 34 Knappers 9
September 17th, 2012 at 9:04 am
Realistically we are looking at 0-5.
We are a VERY BAD team with bad coaching.
If we get pummelled by the likes of Miami and have a defense that quits trying after 6 quarters into the season?
What the heck u think Pittsburgh Denver and Atlanta are gonna do to us?
Does Mark care about any of this?
September 17th, 2012 at 9:05 am
DutchRaider77 Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 8:56 am
@Raider Riff
So what is wrong with the running game?
We need to send the O-Line to a ropes course?
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Ive broken it down for you guys a million times. Go look at the posts previewing the game yesterday.
The problem is that their is 7 or 8 in the box on every play. That is the problem with the run.
The other problem is that when we try and make them pay for it, we drop passes or run chitty routes. Our guys cant sustain solid play. Once we do that, then we can actually start looking at the personell of our OLine and determine if they are the problem.
I think some of em may be. But until our WRs and QB start making the easy plays in the first half, I cant lay it all on the O-Line in the 2nd half. It’s tough to pass in known passing situations. But then again, even when we leave a RB in and it is 6 of us against 5 blitzers, they blow us up so it is what it is.
Palmer made a good throw to DHB in the endzone yesterday. Its a throw any good WR wants in that situation. Just him and the CB, one on one. DHB didnt even get a hand on the ball. Those are the plays winners make, and losers squander.
September 17th, 2012 at 9:05 am
CanuckRaider Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 8:56 am
#890: What I’m remembering are facts…Hue did make some dumb decisions but my point holds up to scrutiny…Check our offensive stats and rankings…Now look at same for our first two games this year…Facts don’t lie Riff.
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Dude, I like Riff, but you are wasting your time. He decided to ignore history and the facts, and he wants to blame the same players who were here last season. The same players he used for an excuse why Knapp will be successful in Oak regardless of his record as OC.
September 17th, 2012 at 9:05 am
910 too early to laugh this hard …
September 17th, 2012 at 9:06 am
We were always trying to get a first down from 3rd and longs that just not a good way to play the game … Just get a little short pass on 2nd so TE 3rd down is manageable .. Take deep shots only on 1st down or if we are at 2nd and less than 5 yards to go ..
September 17th, 2012 at 9:06 am
Like I said before, is it gonna take watching Leno make jokes about us on the “Tonight Show” to get this org. ticked off that we are now a laughingstock????? AGAIN???
September 17th, 2012 at 9:06 am
You build around your starsto win now…. Our around a system for long term plans… since we’re not going to use our best players strengths, we should be rebuilding… this is a waste…. its the worst posible scenario..
September 17th, 2012 at 9:08 am
hwnrdr Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 7:23 am
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 7:21 am
3-10-OAK20 (14:17) C.Palmer pass short left to B.Myers to OAK 24 for 4 yards (K.Dansby).
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And we’re wondering why we can’t convert a 3rd down ?
You know one thing from Knapp that stays teh same also…1st and 10, pass falls incomplete.
2nd and 10, run for a yard or 2. Suddenly, we’re in 3rd and long!
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This is my issue. It is the same ol same ol evrytime. I know DA is a defensive minded coach, but surely he can see this is happening can’t he?
This is not putting your players in a position to succeed.
the players are making alot of mistakes. I just do not think we have a sense of urgency that I was expecting tough talk DA to get out of this team!
September 17th, 2012 at 9:08 am
@Raider Riff
Thanks…did it look to you like D. Moore was starring down Palmer on that missed throw?
September 17th, 2012 at 9:08 am
Is Palmer supposed to perform magic out there? Kinda hard to win/score with D-linemen in your face every play and the running game getting stuffed. I’d say he’s doing a good job considering the circumstances.
September 17th, 2012 at 9:09 am
Does Mark care about any of this?
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I think I blame Mark the most . He wanted to change every thing and distance himself from his father that it fcked up the offense . He made a bad choice in hiring Mckenzie and Mck made a bad choice in hiring DA and so on ….
September 17th, 2012 at 9:09 am
7 in the box… 5 oline..1te…1fb….=7 you can run all day on 7 man fronts!!!
September 17th, 2012 at 9:09 am
#915: Hear ya O…Maybe it’s the seagulls’ fault…Lol.
September 17th, 2012 at 9:09 am
I wonder if the management is even gonna try to do anything different for Pittsburgh.
Isn’t part of being a good coach..or organization, that you make adjustments when u see something isn’t working?
This loss to Miami…getting pummelled like that has got to set off alarms..right?
You’d think so. Or…is it “let’s not panic..it’s only two games. We need to stay the course with this”.
September 17th, 2012 at 9:10 am
Even if we can’t get the running game going ..I believe we have a QB who can still take us to the end zone with better play calls and if u give him manageable 3rd downs ..jus my opinion
September 17th, 2012 at 9:10 am
Raider O Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 9:05 am
CanuckRaider Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 8:56 am
#890: What I’m remembering are facts…Hue did make some dumb decisions but my point holds up to scrutiny…Check our offensive stats and rankings…Now look at same for our first two games this year…Facts don’t lie Riff.
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Dude, I like Riff, but you are wasting your time. He decided to ignore history and the facts, and he wants to blame the same players who were here last season. The same players he used for an excuse why Knapp will be successful in Oak regardless of his record as OC.
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Ignoring history is doing the same thing weve always done, which is to blame the coaches. 30+ years of it.
Al fired Flores
Al fired Shanahan
Al traded Gruden
Al hired and fired the rest
Keep ignoring history and the facts.
He gave Hue two chances to improve this team and his offense went 8-8 twice. But you think the 3rd time would have been the charm. Not the 3rd, or the 30th. But its the Raider way.
September 17th, 2012 at 9:10 am
#1: ArmChair GM: Add me to the list. I have been a Raiders fan for going on 30 years but I refuse to spend any more time watching Knapp take a top 10 offense and turn it into garbage. It is not worth it. I have tickets to two games and I am thinking about just throwing them away – I would sell them (if someone would be dumb enough to buy them) but I don’t want anyone sitting in those seats during the games. What a shame. Knapp and Allen have taken what was an exciting team last year, finally on the turn around, and killed it. Enough is enough.
September 17th, 2012 at 9:11 am
Is Palmer supposed to perform magic out there? Kinda hard to win/score with D-linemen in your face every play and the running game getting stuffed. I’d say he’s doing a good job considering the circumstances.
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Excuses ,Excuses he lost to a ROOKIE QB and a crappy team . But he does have crappy Knappy calling plays so that is a valid excuse…
September 17th, 2012 at 9:11 am
#922: Agreed Banana…CP is not the problem…Most of us know who is.
September 17th, 2012 at 9:11 am
Gotta admit…not really looking forward to going to the game this weekend. So sad…
September 17th, 2012 at 9:11 am
7 in the box is the norm. 4 DL and 3 LBs or 3 DL and 4 LBs.
September 17th, 2012 at 9:11 am
We are not built for zbs!!!! Its knapp or most of our players…..
September 17th, 2012 at 9:12 am
How can anyone defend Knapp and this system when u are at your own 20 on 3rd and 10 and u throw a 4 yd. pass to a guy who has someone draped all over him.
THAT is the recipe for success?
Oh, but I guess this staunch Miami D wouldn’t allow it..just like SD’s “Raven like’ defense.
Pathetic.
September 17th, 2012 at 9:13 am
Jus freaking dink and dunk all the freaking way with only running 10% and occasional deep pass… Gruden and Gannon made a living out of it … Why can’t we ?
September 17th, 2012 at 9:14 am
Again: the problem is not Knapp. The problem is Frank Pollack. How can we judge Knapp’s playcalling when Palmer’s rushing every throw and no running lanes are ever open?
September 17th, 2012 at 9:14 am
Canuck,
Damn Seagulls!!
lol
September 17th, 2012 at 9:15 am
930.CanuckRaider Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 9:11 am
#922: Agreed Banana…CP is not the problem…Most of us know who is.
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Yes I agree, but Palmer is making +$11M, wouldn’t it be nice if he was making +$8M and we had +$3M to spread over some other contracts and have better playmakers? Maybe a legit RT would be nice that fits the scheme?
September 17th, 2012 at 9:17 am
You guys think Hue was bad?
He’s gonna look like Lombardi after a few more weeks of getting ZERO wins and hearing every excuse, cliche in the book.
Then…who will be the snake oil salesman or “pimp”?
Talk about being sold a bill of goods.
At least Hue was competitive and had us in it all the way to the end.
Hue never had us out of it by the end of week 2 as these jokers have.
Ohhh, but Hue “sucked”. What does that make this pos new era of garbage?
September 17th, 2012 at 9:18 am
RaiderDuck Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 9:14 am
Again: the problem is not Knapp. The problem is Frank Pollack. How can we judge Knapp’s playcalling when Palmer’s rushing every throw and no running lanes are ever open?
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Riff is Mr. I played college football so don’t argue with me, so what’s your excuse for ignoring history and the facts?
I like reading your posts, I don’t agree with a lot of things (religion, God, etc), but I do respect your opinion. I can’t understand your point.
Do we have issues with scoring?
Did we have the same issues the last 2 years?
Does knapp have issues with scoring?
It’s not rocket science!
September 17th, 2012 at 9:19 am
“Bet against the favorite in the NFL and you’ll win 60% of the time.”
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Anybody that wagers on the NFL knows the above statement is utter BS.
September 17th, 2012 at 9:20 am
DJ Johnny Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 9:12 am
How can anyone defend Knapp and this system when u are at your own 20 on 3rd and 10 and u throw a 4 yd. pass to a guy who has someone draped all over him.
THAT is the recipe for success?
Oh, but I guess this staunch Miami D wouldn’t allow it..just like SD’s “Raven like’ defense.
Pathetic.
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3rd and longs are just not easy to convert no matter who’s calling the plays .. I have problem with what the eff is he calling on 1st and 2nd downs that put us in a hole to try to get more than 7 yards every 3rd down … I hate that freaking run plays on 2nd and 10 That only gained a yard … Also I been defending Palmer ever since he came here but some of The blame also falls on him .. He tends to look for a deep strike on most of the 1st downs ..there were some wide open receivers on some 1st downs but the guy wanted some one open deep and the result was incompletetion 2nd and 10 coming ..1 yard run on second and 10 now it’s 3nd long .. If we can stop doing that stuff .. We can be ok
September 17th, 2012 at 9:21 am
Ooooh, but we are supposed to have “patience” and “faith” in a guy who commandeered that great Denver D that skyrocketed to a 20th overall ranking?
But we can all take solace when he says he’s “seen it work”.
September 17th, 2012 at 9:21 am
CP is by far the best option we have at QB…TP isn’t ready and might never be…Leinhart has only looked decent briefly with a team with a great running game and defense…There is no one else out there worth considering.
September 17th, 2012 at 9:21 am
“Is Palmer supposed to perform magic out there? Kinda hard to win/score with D-linemen in your face every play and the running game getting stuffed. I’d say he’s doing a good job considering the circumstances.”
The QB’s on the teams we play seem to have all day back there to survey the field and find an open guy and Palmer has about 2 seconds before someone is in his face, similarly McFadden has no running lanes.
Do we miss Cable? No but at least we had a respectable O-Line when he was here!
September 17th, 2012 at 9:21 am
GHOST RAIDER Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 9:05 am
910 too early to laugh this hard …
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Just trying to be optimistic….sad when the only thing you look forward to on weekends is your Fantasy Football Team!
SMH!
September 17th, 2012 at 9:21 am
Who would you rather have as coach ?
Art Shell 2.0
Lard Kiffin
Dennis Allen
Snake Oil Salesman ????
September 17th, 2012 at 9:23 am
No pass rush + no running game = can’t win games.
For the second week in a row, the pressure disappeared in the second half.
The offense starts stalling, and a close game quickly gets out of hand.
The offensive linemen are just not getting to the second level in the running game. No push whatsoever. Maybe they need to “gel” but I’ve been worried about that unit all offseason. Looks as ugly in real life as it does on paper. Not worried about the zone blocking scheme, because many teams run it and run it well – my concern is about the execution first, and if the execution doesn’t noticeably improve over the next couple weeks then the concern needs to be with the coaching.
The lack of talent on both sides of the ball became visible yesterday, but mostly on the defensive side. McClain’s only impact was a missed tackle that led to a TD. Burris and Wheeler look like keepers, but I have my doubts that McClain is in the Raiders’ plans going forward.
Obviously the Raiders have nothing at CB, which will need to be remedied very soon. Hanson isn’t a fit on the outside, Lee is a sub-package guy, and while Spencer is a plus run defender (especially for a DB), he’s shaky at best in coverage. Huff got exposed too, after a solid game against San Diego.
The Raiders are showing their age at DT, something I mentioned would happen before the season. Seymour and Kelly aren’t going to hold up if they have to be on the field as much as the defense was. The Raiders used plenty of the 3-4, and while Houston and Bryant look the part at 5-tech DE (still not convinced about Shaughnessy in that role), 3-4 DEs are only as good as the NT between them. Bilukidi is raw, and Kelly is taken out in one-on-one matchups too easily. The edge containment will always fail when the offense can take your NT out with one blocker, and commit the others to blocking outside.
And for the second straight week, I have to worry about the WR group and their ability to be physical at the LOS and maintain their timing enough to run a precise route in sync with their QB. Too many times I saw the Raider WRs getting out-muscled to the ball. The WR group simply didn’t put up enough of a fight getting to the ball while it is in the air.
The TE group is more polished than expected, but with no WRs and no running game that doesn’t mean much.
Quite simply not enough talent on this roster to be competitive, regardless of the scheme. But once again, the special teams struggled and Knapp’s halftime adjustments were non-existent. With that said – no, Knapp is not going to be fired two games into the season. No, having Saunders calling plays is not a remedy to this problem. However judging by Allen’s comments, seems like Hoffman is already on the hot seat.
September 17th, 2012 at 9:23 am
Some people talking about Carson Palmer throwing for 375 yards. All he is doing is padding his stats with these dink and dunk passes. How about throwing for some touchdowns. I would rather see him throw for 175 yards as long as he can throw for 3 touchdowns. No more USC quarterbacks please!! They are no winners on the NFL level and the Raiiders have two on their roster.
September 17th, 2012 at 9:23 am
941.. i know .. he just says stuff and its fact…
September 17th, 2012 at 9:24 am
The Raiders were 1/12 on third down conversions. As in the game against the Chargers, they didn’t even really try to get the number of yards they needed on third down. Third and seven and Palmer would throw a little dunk pass for three yards. Garbage. Total garbage.
September 17th, 2012 at 9:24 am
Hue has the best winning % of any Raider coach since Gruden.
It’s gonna stay that way for a long time as DA piles up the embarrassing losses.
September 17th, 2012 at 9:25 am
Sup Nation?
September 17th, 2012 at 9:25 am
CP is a good vet QB, and DMAC is a great RB when he is healthy.
Turned a Ferrari into a fiat!
Damn you Knapp.
September 17th, 2012 at 9:25 am
Carson Palmer is the least of the Raiders’ problems right now. But if the team keeps performing this way, you’d better believe the Raiders will be looking for a transcendent talent at the QB position since they’ll likely have one of the first four picks.
September 17th, 2012 at 9:26 am
Guys stop talking about Hue already it’s clear Mark Davis made the call to
Fire him after his post conference … And we had to go a different direction and no Hue wasn’t going to Come as a OC … But he was just ok coach .. Yah he did had our O doing some good things but his overall coaching ,his 2nd half adjustments sucked jus plain and simple .. We jus hired DA too late and he didn’t have many options left
September 17th, 2012 at 9:26 am
I’m not saying to fire DA…you made your bed and now have to lie in it..and it looks really bad to fire aHC every freaking yr. but I hope they are talking about something other than “let’s stay the course gentlemen..no change is necessary…things will just magically click next week against Pittsburgh”.
Just the thought that we even have a freaking chance in hell of beating Pittsburgh is laughable with this joke of a staff and a group of players who have already basically quit on the team.
September 17th, 2012 at 9:27 am
“RAIDERMAN99 Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 9:19 am
“Bet against the favorite in the NFL and you’ll win 60% of the time.”
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Anybody that wagers on the NFL knows the above statement is utter BS.”
I was waiting for someone else to say something I didn’t want to be the only gambler online now.
Yesterday I had Baltimore at +2 and Houston at -7 as a 2 team parlay and I also parlayed Pitt -4.5 with Denver at +3 tonight.
If it was as simple as taking the favorite and winning 2/3 of my bets I would be retired right now living off my NFL betting profits.
September 17th, 2012 at 9:27 am
Miami’s opening drive was a microcosm of how our entire season is going to go.
I was one of the ones who went ballistic when we fired Hue..I had seen enough of the past decade to know we were on to something offensively, and that Hue hated our defense and would have brought someone in to fix it. There wasn’t a doggam thing wrong with that offense last year.
Reggie Blew it up.
This is HIS fVcking mess.
Look around the league men, look at the other games, NOBODY, and I mean NOBODY looks as bad as we do. This is the worst offense since 2006…and it didn’t need to be. We could have kept Hue, tweaked the D, and won both of these games we just lost. I have NO DOUBT that with HUE we would be 2-0 right now. Mani-Pedi’s and all.
Same old SH!TTY Raiders…
September 17th, 2012 at 9:27 am
I was hoping not to have to deal with a loss to the Dolphins after coming back from Buffalo and watching the Chiefs get spanked. We may suck but the Chiefs just might be worse.
Oh yeah, and I’m still all for demoting Knapp asap.
September 17th, 2012 at 9:27 am
YA,
You were right dude. 5-11 and a top 10 pick is a possibility.
I’m not sold on Barkley.
September 17th, 2012 at 9:29 am
Raiders’ identity power and speed.
Raiders’ needs: Cornerback, Pass Rusher.
Raiders will draft Georgia QB, Murray; would actually be a great draft pick.
September 17th, 2012 at 9:31 am
I knew something was up when Wiz left the team out of the blue to spend more time with his family. I get it now. This is not the Raiders family of old. Nor it is a good coaching staff, focused on utilizing schemes that fit the personnel. I hate to say it, but good call Wiz. I wouldn’t want to spend a full football season around this bunch of losers either.
September 17th, 2012 at 9:31 am
Raider O Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 9:27 am
YA,
You were right dude. 5-11 and a top 10 pick is a possibility.
I’m not sold on Barkley.
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Raiders scouts were at the WVU game, so you have to think they’re going to give Geno Smith a long look.
September 17th, 2012 at 9:31 am
961.Raider O Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 9:27 am
YA,
You were right dude. 5-11 and a top 10 pick is a possibility.
I’m not sold on Barkley.
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Barkley is a disaster waiting to happen.
Trade down and get Aaron Murray or Geno Smith if QB is the way to go.
September 17th, 2012 at 9:31 am
I don’t think I can take 3 more years of DA and Knapster …
September 17th, 2012 at 9:32 am
only 2 blind posters in here in love with krappy…
September 17th, 2012 at 9:32 am
Good morning kids, did ya all survive the night?…how ya like the new GM?…was getting one all you hoped for?…you all thrilled the new HC was allowed to hire his own staff?…good with that?…you all cool that new GM let the new HC scrap that exciting offense Hue put together?….isnt it great to now have a team run like everyone else?…got a GM, HC gets to hire his own staff,…oh baby its great to finally be like everyone else,…enjoy 1-15 this year,..2-14 next year,…1-15 the year after that,…long live the bootlickers, we were right,…have a nice day.
September 17th, 2012 at 9:32 am
How were we supposed to get any sacks when Mr.Pat Lee played 20 yards off the receiver on 3rd and longs ..Tannehill completed more than 70% of his passes on the same hook route to this slow white dude
September 17th, 2012 at 9:33 am
At this point, the Raiders’ biggest needs are:
Rush OLB/DE
CB
Offensive playmakers – WR, RB, or even QB
September 17th, 2012 at 9:33 am
Joke of a “team” the Raiders have this year. Overpaid Bums. CODE FIRE KNAPP
September 17th, 2012 at 9:33 am
wiz took a good look at this krapp and said see ya …this is for losers
September 17th, 2012 at 9:33 am
mcfadden20. Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 9:32 am
How were we supposed to get any sacks when Mr.Pat Lee played 20 yards off the receiver on 3rd and longs .
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That was maddening. Saw every third down conversion coming from a mile away. Dumb.
September 17th, 2012 at 9:33 am
GHOST RAIDER Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 8:28 am
I lost all faith in Dennis the menace.He acts like he wants this team to be a contender but all his moves like hiring Knapp and changing the offense says the opposite. He rather do things his way even if its wrong and not working. Doing things your way even though it does not work is INSANE ! Oh and FCK Knapp too!
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Eh…this observation could be made about any of the past 20 years more or less. We had 20 odd years of Al’s inept ways, and now just two games with a struggling new regime that still has time to make adjustments, and probably will.
September 17th, 2012 at 9:36 am
MikieG Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 9:27 am
Miami’s opening drive was a microcosm of how our entire season is going to go.
I was one of the ones who went ballistic when we fired Hue..I had seen enough of the past decade to know we were on to something offensively, and that Hue hated our defense and would have brought someone in to fix it. There wasn’t a doggam thing wrong with that offense last year.
Reggie Blew it up.
This is HIS fVcking mess.
Look around the league men, look at the other games, NOBODY, and I mean NOBODY looks as bad as we do. This is the worst offense since 2006…and it didn’t need to be. We could have kept Hue, tweaked the D, and won both of these games we just lost. I have NO DOUBT that with HUE we would be 2-0 right now. Mani-Pedi’s and all.
Same old SH!TTY Raiders…
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Wow didn’t Hue said that Mark Davis made the call to fire him?
September 17th, 2012 at 9:36 am
but soooo many in here were glad routt left…plain crazy
September 17th, 2012 at 9:36 am
No more USC quarterbacks!!!!!!!!!!!! Check their history in the NFL.
September 17th, 2012 at 9:37 am
Passing game is doing ok, but we lack a running game and we do have the best rb in the league, so the problem lays on the scheme, it doesn’t work, it’s not going to get better obviously so abandon that it or the dumbazz who’s calling plays.
September 17th, 2012 at 9:37 am
Nice post YoungAmerican!
I can be a little hard on the OC at times because of the 2007 memories, but until we get penetration up front there is no telling what the O truly looks like or we have no way of knowing what this offense can do.
September 17th, 2012 at 9:38 am
Mark didnt can Hue, it was all Reggie, 100%,…Trask hated it, still does.
September 17th, 2012 at 9:38 am
973.YoungAmerican Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 9:33 am
mcfadden20. Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 9:32 am
How were we supposed to get any sacks when Mr.Pat Lee played 20 yards off the receiver on 3rd and longs .
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That was maddening. Saw every third down conversion coming from a mile away. Dumb.
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Kinda funny if you think about it, Raider fans around the country all screaming at the TV at once on 3rd down..knowing what is coming, yet it seems the Raider defensive player and coach did not…
September 17th, 2012 at 9:39 am
For the guys predicting we can get 5 wins…
do you really think there are 5 teams on the schedule we can beat?
September 17th, 2012 at 9:39 am
Put Me On The List That Says Knapp Should Be Punched in the Throat
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ArmChair GM Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
IN ONE OFFSEASON, UNDER GREG KNAPP’S SCHEME, DARREN MCFADDEN HAS GONE FROM BEING THE BEST BACK IN THE LEAGUE TO BEING ARGUABLY THE WORST!!! HE IS AVERAGING LESS THAT 2 YDS A CARRY!!!
The entire transition of the offense was handled improperly!
The majority of our weapons on offense including the QB were drafted or acquired using the Al Davis, vertical, stretch the field, power scheme philosophy.
We do not have the player personnel to fully implement what Knapp is trying to do!
This entire thing was handled completely AZZ BACKWARDS from the start!!!
Make Al Saunders the OC and reassign Greg Knapp to QB coach to help Terrelle Pryor develop!!
This is the most logical thing to do to get optimum performance from our players, preserve team continuity, and still have a chance to win the division!!!
As a result…
J Raider has started the OFFICIAL:
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IT’S TIME TO LEAD A REVOLT AROUND HERE THE LIKES OF WHICH WE HAVEN’T SEEN SINCE PAUL REVERE AND GEORGE WASHINGTON!!!
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September 17th, 2012 at 9:40 am
YoungAmerican Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 9:33 am
mcfadden20. Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 9:32 am
How were we supposed to get any sacks when Mr.Pat Lee played 20 yards off the receiver on 3rd and longs .
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That was maddening. Saw every third down conversion coming from a mile away. Dumb.
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We made Tannehil look better than he is and instilled some confidence him when we allowed him to convert the same hook route again and again …I mean get on the receivers face and make the work to get open and make Tannehil nervous but no let’s play 20 yards off the receiver then maybe the QB might get too excited because his receiver is wide open and he will over throw him every time
September 17th, 2012 at 9:40 am
the only hope is amy sees the empty stadium talks some sense into mark and he cans reggie da and krappy while flicking his hair to the side…
September 17th, 2012 at 9:41 am
Already on 95.7 The Game they were talking about “Laying Flat For Matt”"…… I myself want nothing to do with Barkley and would rather have Geno Smith
September 17th, 2012 at 9:41 am
Bills visit Niners,..Steelers come to Oakland,.. 3-0, 0-3,..have a nice day.
September 17th, 2012 at 9:41 am
where are the routt haters?
September 17th, 2012 at 9:41 am
YoungAmerican Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 9:31 am
Raider O Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 9:27 am
YA,
You were right dude. 5-11 and a top 10 pick is a possibility.
I’m not sold on Barkley.
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Raiders scouts were at the WVU game, so you have to think they’re going to give Geno Smith a long look.
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I told you I’m not a fan of drafting a QB in the 1st when I can still get production from CP, which will give us enough time to evaluate the QB situation before I make that decision.
You were right so far, so you it’s a possible you are right about lacking real talent and a need to rebuild starting with the QB position.
I think we should draft DE, CB, RT, and depth. We should be able to sign a few solid FAs, and the team can compete at a high level.
We have a good core IMO.
September 17th, 2012 at 9:41 am
Al Saunders is still on staff so DA need to fire Knapp and have Saunders call the plays. Get back to that power blocking scheme and get some points on the board.
September 17th, 2012 at 9:42 am
Someone needs to tell ‘Mark the Mullet” that 1-15 teams don’t get New Stadiums and the LA market doesn’t want a losing franchise…unless he sells to AIG for peanuts, which is very possible based on his lack of due dilligence when hiring a GM.
September 17th, 2012 at 9:42 am
“At this point, the Raiders’ biggest needs are:
Rush OLB/DE
CB
Offensive playmakers – WR, RB, or even QB”
I agree with the OLB/DE CB
I disagree with the WR RB QB….because we cant tell how good they are right now the O-Line is not giving McFadden any lanes to ruin through or giving Palmer more than 2 seconds to throw the ball.
September 17th, 2012 at 9:43 am
do you really think there are 5 teams on the schedule we can beat?
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Can we play ourselves 5 times ???
September 17th, 2012 at 9:43 am
Reggie and DA are going to be here for a couple years so If I was you guys I’d invest in alot of Drugs and Booze because this team is going to get torn apart in the offseason.
September 17th, 2012 at 9:43 am
Al_is_theraiders Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 9:36 am
but soooo many in here were glad routt left…plain crazy
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IMO Bartell is better than him , but unfortunately he’s injury prone and we had to start this career backups
September 17th, 2012 at 9:44 am
cmon someone out there was glad routt left…
September 17th, 2012 at 9:44 am
As I recall in 2010 this offense was top 5 and in 2011 it was top 10 with no mcfadden….that tells you all you need to know….knapp has turned chicken salad into chicken schitt
September 17th, 2012 at 9:44 am
So it’s possible you ……
Sorry.
September 17th, 2012 at 9:45 am
geez this offense is horrible to watch, you just get relief if they get a 1st down, no creativity whatsoever from that mor KRAPP, fire him now
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September 17th, 2012 at 9:45 am
bartell cant stay on the field…how is that better?
September 17th, 2012 at 9:45 am
September 17th, 2012 at 9:45 am
Odds of Reggie firing Knapp anytime soon ?
Slim to none.
Odds that the great Al Davis, RIP, would be getting the overhead projector ready for Krappy ?
Almost 100%
Excuse me for borrowing from you Raider O,
I miss Al.
September 17th, 2012 at 9:46 am
http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii195/davpdesign/Greg_Knapp.jpg
September 17th, 2012 at 9:46 am
Still dont think this is a rebuild?
The defense was exposed, not the scheme, but the inconsistent ways of the players. Missed tackles were the most disappointing aspect. we already knew that or corners need to be hidden because they are not very good. We thought that tackling and effort had improved, along with the scheme. so for all of the talk about al davis and his ancient schemes we have been slapped in the head with the ugly truth, the players are not very good. every team for the rest of the year will attack the soft underbelly of our secondary. every team will believe that our defense will pack it in a bit early like they did on sunday.
several guys dug themselves a hole on sunday and many will not make it out of the hole in time to secure a roster spot in 2013.
We have rapidly turned into the laughingstock of the nfl again. From the doorstep of the playoffs at 6-2 and the division lead, to 0-2 and already out of the playoff hunt.
Blow it up reggie
September 17th, 2012 at 9:47 am
Mark Davis hates football, always has. Has no interest in the Raiders thats why he hired first guy he talked to to be his GM,…he couldnt care less about the Raiders being the worst team in the league. Hes selling the team and its being relocated back to LA,…Al Davis always knew his son was a total loser…people in the organization know hes a total loser,…I met Mark in Miami last year, walked away with impression he was a clueless dude that inherited a team he didnt deserve. Its a shame Al had no other kids.
September 17th, 2012 at 9:47 am
Pat Lee should be cut ASAP ..what does this guy run 5.6 40? Who freaking plays 20 yards off the receiver and allow the same completion to this slow white dude…Tannehil didn’t make any other throw
September 17th, 2012 at 9:47 am
AmysInCharge Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 9:38 am
Mark didnt can Hue, it was all Reggie, 100%,…Trask hated it, still does.
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No, it was Mark who fired Hue (check Corkran’s chats and whatnot). And Reggie’s in it for the long haul.
September 17th, 2012 at 9:49 am
Promote Chekwa ..he can’t do worse than P Lee right?
September 17th, 2012 at 9:49 am
Lol,.ok Duckie, if Corkran said so. LMAO
September 17th, 2012 at 9:51 am
“At this point, the Raiders’ biggest needs are:
Rush OLB/DE
CB
Offensive playmakers – WR, RB, or even QB”
I agree with the OLB/DE CB
I disagree with the WR RB QB….because we cant tell how good they are right now the O-Line is not giving McFadden any lanes to ruin through or giving Palmer more than 2 seconds to throw the ball.
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Exactly right. The line is getting mauled.
September 17th, 2012 at 9:51 am
Promote Chekwa…
September 17th, 2012 at 9:51 am
if cork say it well ok than…lol
September 17th, 2012 at 9:52 am
Include me on the take-out Knapp list! The dude never had it and never will!
September 17th, 2012 at 9:52 am
99,
I miss AL too.
Not a fan of what he did the last decade, but I agree the man will not tolerate this BS.
September 17th, 2012 at 9:53 am
AmysInCharge Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 9:49 am
Lol,.ok Duckie, if Corkran said so. LMAO
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Considering that he’s personally talked to Mark and Reggie and you haven’t, who would be more reliable?
September 17th, 2012 at 9:53 am
Everyone keeps saying we had the 9th ranked offense last year, but that was just in total yards per game. An overall meaningless stat. We are 16th in total ypg right now, and I would say we are the worst team in the NFL, hands down.
September 17th, 2012 at 9:53 am
Like i’ve said, we won’t win until we run block. PERIOD.
September 17th, 2012 at 9:54 am
still no reasoning for getting rid if routt..yes he had penalties but he was aggressive, hanson/lee are too scared to cover…spencer is slower than molasses, bartell gets hurt faster than a raider foot….
September 17th, 2012 at 9:54 am
Didn’t someone here say Lee was better than Bartell?
September 17th, 2012 at 9:55 am
Omg did you guys actually see that fool say because Corkran said so?…easily funniest post this blogs ever seen. Omg.
September 17th, 2012 at 9:55 am
Trask hated it, still does.
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Link, Source? No such thing exists. Amy may or may not have liked getting rid of Hue, but she would never say that publicly
September 17th, 2012 at 9:55 am
and if reggie wanted you to believe a lie who better than cork to spread it?
September 17th, 2012 at 9:58 am
RaiderReggie Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 9:36 am
No more USC quarterbacks!!!!!!!!!!!! Check their history in the NFL.
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The same could be said for Michigan QBs…until a little known 6th round pick named Thomas Brady was drafted.
The school the player attends doesnt make a difference.
Its what’s between the ears that matters. Every individual is different.
Besides, I would argue that our current starting QB is the best of the USC QBs.
Marching a top of the league Cinncinnatti passing attack into the 2005 playoffs, only to have his knee blown out on the 2nd play of the game vs the Steelers…also being heavily favored in that game by the way.
Carson was all he was hyped up to be…injury and garbage Cinncinnatti circumstance have led to him having a pedestrian career since that promising start.
The point I’m making is I wouldnt look away from Barkley just because he attends USC. If he has the makeup, he has the makeup. Thats what should be evaluated. Not the school he attends and their history. Just him and his skills.
September 17th, 2012 at 9:58 am
Bcz24 Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 9:53 am
Everyone keeps saying we had the 9th ranked offense last year, but that was just in total yards per game. An overall meaningless stat. We are 16th in total ypg right now, and I would say we are the worst team in the NFL, hands down.
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Most I’d us know that, but 16th is better than 31st.
I miss being avg. I miss 16th!!
31st in scoring?!?!?!?
Eff you Knapp!
Turned a Ferrari into a fiat!!!
September 17th, 2012 at 9:58 am
24,..I never said she said it publicly,..maybe go reread my entry. And I dont do links,…talk to that old man that pretends to be a realtor.
September 17th, 2012 at 9:58 am
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September 17th, 2012 at 9:59 am
WTF is Ice Cube doing on ESPN talkingabout Raider Football…DudeNEVER played a down of football, and he’s the guy that they interview? What a joke!
That song he made is OK,but his “President of the Raider Nation” crap is a joke.
Guy comes to one game a year,
yet claims to love the team.
Message to Pube… take off the Wig, stop embarassing yourself in the Coors Ads, BUY a Luxury Box for the Season and pay respect to the Nations real leaders, the folks laying down their hard earned cash for seats in the Coliseum every sunday…
September 17th, 2012 at 9:59 am
Al_is_theraiders Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 9:55 am
and if reggie wanted you to believe a lie who better than cork to spread it?
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Because if he HAD lied about it, we could have expected a public statement from Mark denying he had anything to due with Hue’s ouster. Instead…crickets.
September 17th, 2012 at 9:59 am
“Everyone keeps saying we had the 9th ranked offense last year, ”
Whats so amazing about that is we only had McFadden for 8 games and had 3 different starting QB’s…. that’s why being 9th is a big deal we did it under horrible circumstances.
September 17th, 2012 at 10:00 am
In the NFL players make plays! DHB has been fu***n bust and Palmer goes to him anyway! Raiders = No NFL Players! Lame!
September 17th, 2012 at 10:00 am
RaiderDuck Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 9:53 am
AmysInCharge Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 9:49 am
Lol,.ok Duckie, if Corkran said so. LMAO
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Considering that he’s personally talked to Mark and Reggie and you haven’t, who would be more reliable?
Funny guys…here’s the thing…
Many may not like Bob or Bri@n but many, many times they have been right!
I hate it when B comes to my sec during the game and tells me we’e gonna lose…I think only one time last year we acually pulled it off.
As for Bob, he does talk to Mrs Trask. You guys can believe that or not….up to you!
September 17th, 2012 at 10:00 am
They had terrible starting field position all day. When the Defense got DRIVEN down the field on the last 2 posessions, and the game is STILL within reach……Why punt the ball on 4th and short? You think the D is gonna miraculously step up and get you a stop?
To me, punting in the 4th, when the game is still in reach, when you NEED a spark, and your D has been getting owned….IS giving up. DA just told the whole team “we’re taking a knee”. Who knows man.
The Dolphins went ahead and scored twice more.
September 17th, 2012 at 10:01 am
Hwnrdr Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 10:00 am
RaiderDuck Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 9:53 am
AmysInCharge Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 9:49 am
Lol,.ok Duckie, if Corkran said so. LMAO
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Considering that he’s personally talked to Mark and Reggie and you haven’t, who would be more reliable?
Funny guys…here’s the thing…
Many may not like Bob or Bri@n but many, many times they have been right!
I hate it when B comes to my sec during the game and tells me we’e gonna lose…I think only one time last year we acually pulled it off.
As for Bob, he does talk to Mrs Trask. You guys can believe that or not….up to you!
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We already ready know NorcoAmy is a liar, so we can’t believe ANYTHING he says. We just can’t.
September 17th, 2012 at 10:01 am
you think mark knows he has been lied to yet duck? dude..listen to yourself…
September 17th, 2012 at 10:01 am
Mich QBs?!?
Damn you Mich!! And your QBs!
Go Buckeyes! Fear the NUT/(fruit) MFers!
September 17th, 2012 at 10:02 am
Ice Cube does go to more than one game a year…seen him like 4 times last year! Ok, maybe 3!
September 17th, 2012 at 10:03 am
Omg Duckie, you keep sinking, abort this silly line dude, you will never recover from your morning of stupidity,..might want to take some time away from here and gather yourself,..its what Corkran would want. LMAO
September 17th, 2012 at 10:03 am
Sorry but you guys still don’t get it talking about Hue Jackson, Reggie, Mark, DA and our lousy players.
We have to go to a higher level, to the partnership. The other partners/investors have to clean house and divorce this club from the Davis family.
You hear that this was attempted already when AD was alive and it is true, however, that is when AD was rife with cash from suing the NFL and showering minority partners with green. With that amount of funds available AD could not be beat.
Now that AD is gone and the organization is 31st in the league in value and revenue production, Davis family has lost some of their leverage.
In any business entity whether corp, partnership, LLC, limited partnership, the majority interest holder cannot oppress the minority. This means that intentional and negligent actions by AD and now by Mark over the past 10 yrs must have been done for 1) the good of the majority and minority partners alike; and 2)have been done with the rational belief that they were in the best interest of the club and both majority and minority interest holders.
In other words AD, and now Mark, can’t do anything he wants without answering to the minority shareholders, and if he does the Davis’ can be held personally liable for their actions.
I contend that an average prudent person in Mark’s position could not reasonably or rationally believe that he/she has done what was in the best interest of the club and all minority shareholders.
Look deeper than these dumb coaches and GM’s etc, and ascertain the root of the problem. The Davis’ are no longer fit to control this club.
The best thing is to oust them, sweep out all personnel and players, cobble this season together the best they can using TP at QB, and testing various youngsters.
How can Reggie and DA be allowed to retain their posts when they have made grievous errors, especially hiring a proven under performer like Knapp? It is ridiculous.
If the stadium is basically empty of fans on game day the minority will be forced to act as the revenue stream decreases.
I say cast a bronze statue of AD, place in front of the coliseum, while sweeping out the Davis family and washing away AD’s taint.
September 17th, 2012 at 10:04 am
Meanwhile, I see Oakfoshow hasn’t posted yet. I’ll simulate one of his posts:
(Ahem)
BLAH BLAH BLAH REGGIE SUX YADDA YADDA YADDA DRIPPY LIP YAMMER YAMMER YAMMER HUE IS GOD-CAKES.
September 17th, 2012 at 10:05 am
Liston up Dennis Allen!! Let Al Saunders call the plays!!!
September 17th, 2012 at 10:05 am
Lol, cant stop laughing at poor Duckie,..gotta run though,…hey Duckie, thanks for the laughs dude,…hey Duckie, why not ask Corkran the mega lotto numbers this week, I know he has them,..cya.
September 17th, 2012 at 10:05 am
As for Bob, he does talk to Mrs Trask. You guys can believe that or not….up to you!
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Hwnrdr,
I know she does a lot of charity work including talking to special kids.
I have not forgot about that email, but I’m still doing my research.
September 17th, 2012 at 10:06 am
bcz24 Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 9:53 am
Everyone keeps saying we had the 9th ranked offense last year, but that was just in total yards per game. An overall meaningless stat. We are 16th in total ypg right now, and I would say we are the worst team in the NFL, hands down.
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It was a completely different feel though.
Last year (and 2010 for that matter), the YPG showed how well we moved the ball. The only reason why we were 16th in scoring was because of injuries. In 2010 we were 6th in PPG, with careful Campbell as QB!!! The difference? DMC healthy for 13 games.
Hue’s offense was way more explosive than this. We could score and were always a threat to score.
I agree that YPC this year is meaningless. But it is different. I mean when our offense is on the field here for the first 2 weeks, do they pass the eye test? To me it looks like they have no chance at scoring a touchdown.
Whereas the past 2 years, I felt like we had a chance to score a TD any possession.
Theres a difference. What does your eyes tell you when you watch this offense, VS Hue’s offense of the past 2 seasons? Its not even close.
Palmer’s big yardage numebers meant something last year. They were chunk throws down the field. Big plays. This year so far? He only has good yardage numbers because they cant run and he has to throw it 45 times a game. Its just not the same. Yards per attempt way down, yards per completion way down. This change to zone blocking is a self inflicted UNNECCESSARY wound the new regime has brought upon itself.
Change on offense just was not needed.
Only change on defense was needed.
And by the way, I am not saying I wish Hue was still here. I just wish they had kept his offensive principals and made Al Saunders OC.
This change is so frustrating and unneccessary.
September 17th, 2012 at 10:07 am
I feel so fu***n depressed having been laid by Miami and going to see the Pitt game on Sunday! New season 0-2 and the wheels are coming off! New Era of Excellece my ass!!
September 17th, 2012 at 10:07 am
here is duck…”reggie is king of the world…lets put burris at cb, move chekwa to de and give krappy a raise. reggie is golden”
September 17th, 2012 at 10:08 am
As for the offense, it isnt much better.
Follow me on this for a second, last year our offense was very good. The offense was explosive but it could also grind up the defense with power. We had an uptempo system and our execution was crisp. In fact our team at that point was clearly on the rise and only being dragged down by our terrible defense. ever since the Cleveland browns game this team has been one of the worst in the nfl. INstead of our team continuing to improve we are now disintegrating.
I do believe hu jack made one of the biggest mistakes in football history, trading for palmer.
1. it destroyed effectively dismantled the team, removing its back bone and leader, fracturing the locker room. Palmer has clearly struggled with losing, and his sideline tantrums are causing players to roll their eyes.
2. This trade may have been a key factor in hu jack losing his job. not only did it paint the raiders into a corner as an all or nothing bet the house type of drunken poker gamble, but the reward was never going to be what hu jack thought a super bowl qb or team. but the terms of the trade are as if we had acquired a manning or brady or brees. So far it adds up like a complete fleece job by brown and the bungles.
3.This trade exposed hu jack as a power hungry mike martz personality, with a duplicitous nature. Suddenly not only did media and fans have a reason to distrust hu, but so did the locker room and front office.
4. hu was fired and a totally new regime, philosophy and schemes are put into place. This left us with a mismatched hodg podge of players that are no where near a fit for what we are trying to do.
I only wonder what would have been if hu had just taken my advice. Ride out the season with boller, take your lumps and develop your drafted players. he would always have been able to survive based on the fact that he lost his starting qb, and rb. He could have come back this year with a healthy offense, continuity, and a new defensive coordinator.
damn we were so close…….
September 17th, 2012 at 10:08 am
Walking into work today and hearing it from Buc fans telling me that the Raiders suck. And I got nothing. Nothing to say, except nod my head in agreement. Pretty sad day when a doormat team can talk ish at you.
“yeah they suck, I can’t defend them. Bad coaching, bad draft picks, bad talent, bad management. A lot of players on the team are UFL or practice squad guys. Yeah we suck. 2-14 here we come.”
The dude looks over at me like he senses I’m gonna breakdown and tries to console me. All I can do is laugh, “I don’t want the pity dude. What can you do?”
SMH
September 17th, 2012 at 10:08 am
RaidersOne Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 10:03 am
We have to go to a higher level, to the partnership. The other partners/investors have to clean house and divorce this club from the Davis family.
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How many sockpuppets do you have? We know about Al D. Davis, Hardline, and (I think) that EastBay guy.
September 17th, 2012 at 10:09 am
Raider One:
great post!
We are all realizing why Mark was hiding in the shadows of the building all these years…
September 17th, 2012 at 10:09 am
Al_is_theraiders Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 10:07 am
here is duck…”reggie is king of the world…lets put burris at cb, move chekwa to de and give krappy a raise. reggie is golden”
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When did I say any of that, or anything resembling it?
No matter. We already know you’re a liar.
September 17th, 2012 at 10:11 am
AmysInCharge: The guy who insisted last January that nobody was moving to LA for decades, and who now insists that a deal’s already been signed.
So were you lying then, or are you lying now?
September 17th, 2012 at 10:11 am
We are not playing aggressive like our coach told us
September 17th, 2012 at 10:13 am
yep like when i said letting go of routt was a mistake, zone covg suks and the zbs makes little girls out of linemen…
September 17th, 2012 at 10:13 am
guest123 Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 10:08 am
Walking into work today and hearing it from Buc fans telling me that the Raiders suck. And I got nothing. Nothing to say, except nod my head in agreement. Pretty sad day when a doormat team can talk ish at you
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I live in Pittsburgh. It’s 1 pm on a Monday here and I’m already hearing sch!t talk from friends and co-workers. And, like you, I got nothing to say in reply.
Roethlisberger has said he’d skip a game to be with his wife when their child was born. Unless she goes into labor Saturday, we’re screwed. It’ll be 28-3 by halftime.
Steelers 45 – Raiders 10
September 17th, 2012 at 10:14 am
I hate to see Darren McFadden’s prime years wasted like this. With all that skill running schemes developed by the brain of a turnip. For his sake, it’d be better if he was traded for a draft pick and let him hope to be a champion one day.
2 games in and already to blow this thing up. What’s the point in a late season improvement only to play the spoiler? We need to do our few star players a favor and put them in positions to succeed. Lord knows our coaching does not have the acumen to understand how to maximize their potential. Let someone else turn DMAC into a hall of famer. He’s only 25 yo, and lots of great football left in him.
September 17th, 2012 at 10:14 am
” Palmer has clearly struggled with losing, and his sideline tantrums are causing players to roll their eyes.”
Now you are just making stuff up Mystic1…..Palmer is not the problem….our O-Line is not creating any passing lanes or running lanes.
September 17th, 2012 at 10:14 am
Miami was prepared for the Raiders because they played Houston last week and Greg Knapp brought the same plays from Houston and incorporated them into the Raiders playbook. Its like Miami was playing the same team back to back.
September 17th, 2012 at 10:14 am
Raider O Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 9:52 am
99,
I miss AL too.
Not a fan of what he did the last decade, but I agree the man will not tolerate this BS.
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Yup, there’s no denying Al made some terrible mistakes.
The last decade speaks for itself. I don’t know if the old man would have gotten the Raids all the way back, but I had the feeling we were on the right track.
One thing I’m sure of, Al wouldn’t tolerate Knapp’s obvious incompetence for long.
Reggie isn’t going to make the necessary change during the season. He doesn’t have the stones or want to be second guessed.
I’ll always be a Raider fan. However, if the offense continues to do nothing this year and Knapp is back in 2013, I might not even watch the games anymore. Don’t need the aggravation.
September 17th, 2012 at 10:15 am
Coulditbe that mark is counting ona horrible rebuilding year,
a top 3 pick with a chance to get USC Hero Barklay,
and then a glorious return to a a New Stadium in LA?
If that is his plan,he’s got the 1st part right about the Horrible rebuilding year…
September 17th, 2012 at 10:16 am
I hope the Falcons kill the broncos!!!! I can’t stand them…
September 17th, 2012 at 10:16 am
We have the same o-line from last year, however, we are running a different scheme. Thats of of the major problems on offense.
September 17th, 2012 at 10:16 am
P Lee is dumber than rock or maybe Jamarcus 8 completions to this dude slow as snail on same curl or hook whatever u Want to call it ) route
September 17th, 2012 at 10:17 am
Miami is a suckwad team and I put their ceiling at 5 wins. And they just crushed us in all 3 phases. That’s the barometer of just how bad we are.
2-14? First pick overall. Likely I think.
September 17th, 2012 at 10:18 am
Well time to start the countdown on when we will see a qb change.
To be fair palmer is playing much better than i thought he would, however with each loss he gets closer and closer to the end of his career as a raider. we have seen several times over the year where the incumbent qb is a veteran that is being questioned, yet he plays decent or solid football. yet the team loses until they are out of the playoff chase, and the young prospect gets the nod down the stretch.
Does anyone think that this team can win more than 1 of these next 3 games? Winning 1 of the next 3 games is bet that i wouldnt take, but being generous you still are looking at a 1-4 start.
The question is how many losses before you pull the plug on palmer and roll with the youngster?
September 17th, 2012 at 10:18 am
FWIW, Lee looked OK in game 1. Yesterday was when his weaknesses were exposed (AND HOW).
September 17th, 2012 at 10:18 am
So funny how everyone was saying that Al Davis Scheme was the issue on defense even Huff came out in an article saying as much…..WELL HUFF!!! What the deal man I thought this new scheme lets you be yourself, apparently being yourself is being a crappy player.
September 17th, 2012 at 10:19 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 10:18 am
Well time to start the countdown on when we will see a qb change.
To be fair palmer is playing much better than i thought he would, however with each loss he gets closer and closer to the end of his career as a raider. we have seen several times over the year where the incumbent qb is a veteran that is being questioned, yet he plays decent or solid football. yet the team loses until they are out of the playoff chase, and the young prospect gets the nod down the stretch.
Does anyone think that this team can win more than 1 of these next 3 games? Winning 1 of the next 3 games is bet that i wouldnt take, but being generous you still are looking at a 1-4 start.
The question is how many losses before you pull the plug on palmer and roll with the youngster?
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The bye week would be the logical place. IF Reggie and DA decide to go Youth Movement, that would be the time.
September 17th, 2012 at 10:20 am
“The question is how many losses before you pull the plug on palmer and roll with the youngster?”
The answer is when the youngster is ready and he is clearly not ready yet.
September 17th, 2012 at 10:21 am
Can’t wait for the 1 o clock presser…
DA had better get his ‘Poker Face’on,
or that lower lip curl is going to become a full ‘Meth Mouth’…he’ll have ’shrunken apple face’by the end of his 1st year at this rate…
He’s got some hard yards ahead of him at this point.
September 17th, 2012 at 10:21 am
duck we’ll wait till cork says its time…
September 17th, 2012 at 10:21 am
I remember when were all mad that SI writer Don Banks predicted Palmer would get benched for TP in October. Looks like WE were the idiots there.
September 17th, 2012 at 10:21 am
But I expect some improvement in our day week to week and I think we will be alright with who we have ..n I mean just average to above average this year and we will be a above average to good next year and we will be beast the following years
September 17th, 2012 at 10:23 am
I told you I’m not a fan of drafting a QB in the 1st when I can still get production from CP, which will give us enough time to evaluate the QB situation before I make that decision.
You were right so far, so you it’s a possible you are right about lacking real talent and a need to rebuild starting with the QB position.
I think we should draft DE, CB, RT, and depth. We should be able to sign a few solid FAs, and the team can compete at a high level.
We have a good core IMO.
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I think when you have a 32-year-old QB whose skill set has probably peaked, and you’re picking in the top 5, you have to look at a QB if you think he’s the kind of player who can make your entire team better. That’s what I mean by “transcendent talent”.
I like Palmer fine, and in the right situation I think he has as good a skill set as any pocket passer in the league. But I don’t see him as the kind of player who takes a team on his shoulders and makes chicken salad out of chicken s***.
But again, this is if the Raiders do indeed end the season with a top 5 pick. If they end with a pick between 10 and 17, I doubt there will be a top QB prospect still available – at least not a guy who is an immediate impact player at that position.
Bottom line is that on offense, the Raiders still don’t have one single player who is capable of dominating a game. They have a few nice pieces (when they’re healthy), but that’s it.
September 17th, 2012 at 10:23 am
Maybe Al was right all along in his micro-control of all things Raiders. He kept everyone on a tight leash to keep them from stepping on themselves. DA is overwhelmed and not ready for this level. I bet Al would have corrected a few things by now and have DA’s ears burning. But Reggie is going to sit back and watch this thing implode. Because patience is all about where its at in the new REGGIME. But we all know that AL would have had none of it. Al hated losing. I don’t see anyone in the new REGGIME that really hates losing. It’s all moneyball managment with an eye 3 years from now.
September 17th, 2012 at 10:24 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 10:14 am
” Palmer has clearly struggled with losing, and his sideline tantrums are causing players to roll their eyes.”
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Palmer is 4-8 as a starter here.
he has been in side line shouting matches with hu jack, last year in kc after his own blunder. This year he has been seen yelling at knapp and dhb.
You dont get to do that unless you have super bowl rings and mvp trophies. You cant do that when you are 4-8 and have thrown 17 picks in 11 starts
September 17th, 2012 at 10:25 am
One thing I’m sure of, Al wouldn’t tolerate Knapp’s obvious incompetence for long.
Reggie isn’t going to make the necessary change during the season. He doesn’t have the stones or want to be second guessed.
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Again – name one team that changed their offensive coordinator during the season and ended with a winning record.
That’s why Reggie won’t replace Knapp mid-season – because it won’t help.
September 17th, 2012 at 10:26 am
We are getting DESTROYED inthe trenches on both side of the ball…never gonna win like this.
Watch our pass rushers all run into the same space,time after time.
On Reggies first TD, they were dog piled on each other like the ball was under the pile..
September 17th, 2012 at 10:26 am
Al_is_theraiders Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 10:21 am
duck we’ll wait till cork says its time…
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If you think Cork doesn’t tell the truth with his reporting, why do you even come here? This is a serious question. I know Limbaugh (for instance) lie like a cheap rug, so I don’t go to his forums and I don’t read his website.
September 17th, 2012 at 10:27 am
Again – name one team that changed their offensive coordinator during the season and ended with a winning record.
That’s why Reggie won’t replace Knapp mid-season – because it won’t help.
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That’s sort of like you have just been informed you got cancer, but are told you have a 1 in 4 chance of beating it with chemo, but refuse because the odds are too long.
September 17th, 2012 at 10:27 am
Guest123 Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 10:23 am
Maybe Al was right all along in his micro-control of all things Raiders. He kept everyone on a tight leash to keep them from stepping on themselves. DA is overwhelmed and not ready for this level. I bet Al would have corrected a few things by now and have DA’s ears burning. But Reggie is going to sit back and watch this thing implode. Because patience is all about where its at in the new REGGIME. But we all know that AL would have had none of it. Al hated losing. I don’t see anyone in the new REGGIME that really hates losing. It’s all moneyball managment with an eye 3 years from now.
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No, Al was not right with his micro-managing style. If he had been right, we wouldn’t have suffered through seven straight 11-loss seasons.
September 17th, 2012 at 10:28 am
And for all you posters out there….THE COACHES AREN’T GOING ANYWHERE!
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LOL, don’t be so sure of that. Knapp will no doubt be out of here if he can’t put up points with this offense.
September 17th, 2012 at 10:29 am
We just got the bad end of schedule .. Play freaking SD on a Monday night and go to Miami of all the places on a short week … I think we will be fine ..still looked better on the O side .. No stupid fumbles or dumb miscues …just need to call better plays , Oline should only get better as we move along … McFadden will get going … Like I said before there is no way McFadden can’t be good in this scheme if scrubs can get 1,000 yards in ZBS .. No freak1n way he can’t succe3d … Once we stop pass blocking and run blocking Better along with getting better on D we will be fine … You guys need to chilax
September 17th, 2012 at 10:29 am
Morning/afternoon peoples!
Only 2 games so far, but it may be a long season fellas.
September 17th, 2012 at 10:31 am
“Palmer is 4-8 as a starter here.”
4-7 stop it!
Its not Palmer’s fault we look like crap out there.
Our offense cannot execute at the most basic level and your solution is to put in a rookie 3rd string QB?
Come on man!!
September 17th, 2012 at 10:31 am
Bring in Plax! We are sorley missing that big red zone target.
September 17th, 2012 at 10:31 am
RaiderDuck Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 10:08 am
RaidersOne Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 10:03 am
We have to go to a higher level, to the partnership. The other partners/investors have to clean house and divorce this club from the Davis family.
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How many sockpuppets do you have? We know about Al D. Davis, Hardline, and (I think) that EastBay guy.
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RaiderDuck,
AL D. Davis was banned for utter disrespect to club, owners and staff. Subsequently Hardline handle was messed up between screenname and password and I was instructed to pick a new screenname, which I did.
EastBay guy…..don’t know the screenname and never heard of it.
Any other questions?
September 17th, 2012 at 10:32 am
Start ^^^^ not stop
September 17th, 2012 at 10:32 am
That’s sort of like you have just been informed you got cancer, but are told you have a 1 in 4 chance of beating it with chemo, but refuse because the odds are too long.
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It has nothing to do with the “odds”. It has to do with the fact that the team has spent an entire offseason learning a system, learning how to executive a certain style of play. Making a change mid-season involves going back to the drawing board. It destroys consistency. It means that the team has to learn a new style of play on the fly instead of having the time it takes to properly implement an offense. That’s why you never see a team who fired or demoted their offensive coordinator mid-season in the playoffs – because it just adds an entirely new set of problems.
September 17th, 2012 at 10:32 am
What were we on 3rd downs?
2-12????
September 17th, 2012 at 10:32 am
I know where Norco is coming from. I said a long time ago that it wont be the same without Al.
Now we are just one of 32, nothing special other then history and the name.
No proof that this owner or any future owner will want to win more then he wants to make money or sell the team or use it for a springboard or use it to run for office or whatever else.
The reason why Al never hired a GM is because he knows that 90% of them are clueless and the others get lucky now and then.
Same with most coaches.
Two questions
1)Name 5 sure fire no miss head coaches we can hire
2) Do the same with GM’s
September 17th, 2012 at 10:33 am
Lets at least get a running game established before throwing the young man to the wolves so he can have a chance at success.
September 17th, 2012 at 10:33 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 10:31 am
“Palmer is 4-8 as a starter here.”
4-7 stop it!
Its not Palmer’s fault we look like crap out there.
Our offense cannot execute at the most basic level and your solution is to put in a rookie 3rd string QB?
Come on man!!
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It’s not a matter of whether CP is performing (he is). BUT if this season is unsalvageable, then maybe it’s time to see IF Pryor is our QB of the future or not. If he is, GREAT! If not, Reggie will know to look for one (probably via the draft) in the offseason.
September 17th, 2012 at 10:34 am
Let’s chilax ladies just 2 games in with new everything .. We are only going to get better as the season goes along … Let’s not keep crying over this 0-2 start… I’m positive that we will be playing good all around games from here on out
September 17th, 2012 at 10:34 am
Chillax?
LMAO
Who cares if McFadden gets to 1000 yards. Scrub losers like Cedric Benson did it 3 years in a row. Over 16 games, that’s an avg of 60 or so yards a game. Big F’n deal. Who cares if Palmer throws for 300 yards a game? If he can’t convert short fields in the red zone to TD’s what good are boatloads of yardage between the 20’s?
I swear, I don’t get the fascination with stats. Must be fantasy football’s influence. Scores are all that matter.
September 17th, 2012 at 10:34 am
Mistic #1046,
Excellent summary. The CP deal was the beginning of the end and was a fools errand.
Boller should have been the QB and he should have been prepared…not completely helpless.
September 17th, 2012 at 10:35 am
I was always an Al bootlicker because I knew it would never be the same without him. The magic is no more. Al was the main reason I became a fan.
I like rebelling and Al was a rebelling fool
I miss him
September 17th, 2012 at 10:35 am
Some notable Corkyisms…
DHB is the 6th best WR on the team.
Raids would destroy SD week 17.
Can’t even remember the name of the punt returner that was a ‘lock’ to make the roster.
Travis Ivy was his pick to make an impact at NT.
Corky’s player ratings and predictions just don’t have much credibility anymore.
However, I do believe that it was Mark Davis’ call to fire Hue. Mark knew he was going to bring in a GM and felt that Hue was going to make the organizational restructure difficult and had challenged his authority.
September 17th, 2012 at 10:35 am
Plunketthead Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 10:32 am
Two questions
1)Name 5 sure fire no miss head coaches we can hire
2) Do the same with GM’s
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Third question: Name any quality GM or head coach who would come here if we fired everyone now. (Hint: There are none).
You may or may not like what Reggie is doing, but the man will run the Raiders until the next presidential election, at least.
September 17th, 2012 at 10:36 am
YoungAmerican Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 10:25 am
One thing I’m sure of, Al wouldn’t tolerate Knapp’s obvious incompetence for long.
Reggie isn’t going to make the necessary change during the season. He doesn’t have the stones or want to be second guessed.
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Again – name one team that changed their offensive coordinator during the season and ended with a winning record.
That’s why Reggie won’t replace Knapp mid-season – because it won’t help.
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Don’t we have Al Saunders as our Senior Offensive Assistant?
Let him start calling plays…very similar playbook to Hue’s!
September 17th, 2012 at 10:36 am
Last year we ran both power and little zone. Why can’t we do both again this season? We need to dial in certain run plays that DMAC likes to run.
Knapp is a joke. Still hasn’t utilized Reece.
We need to be able to run the ball, orr its going to be a long season.
September 17th, 2012 at 10:37 am
The question is how many losses before you pull the plug on palmer and roll with the youngster?
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0-4, go with Pryor.
2-2, stick with Palmer
1-3…Palmer gets the Atlanta game. Win, stick with him. Lose, Pryor gets the Jaguars the week following.
September 17th, 2012 at 10:37 am
YoungAmerican Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 10:32 am
That’s sort of like you have just been informed you got cancer, but are told you have a 1 in 4 chance of beating it with chemo, but refuse because the odds are too long.
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It has nothing to do with the “odds”. It has to do with the fact that the team has spent an entire offseason learning a system, learning how to executive a certain style of play. Making a change mid-season involves going back to the drawing board. It destroys consistency. It means that the team has to learn a new style of play on the fly instead of having the time it takes to properly implement an offense. That’s why you never see a team who fired or demoted their offensive coordinator mid-season in the playoffs – because it just adds an entirely new set of problems.
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Well thought out and reasonable reply. Now what’s the downside of blowing it up and attempting to re-charge the game plan? Remember when Tom Cable stripped Knapp and it didn’t translate into wins, but it did restore confidence. It righted the morale. This team needs a morale boost right now. If it’s going into the toilet anyway, what’s the risk here? What’s the worst that could happen?
September 17th, 2012 at 10:37 am
We might not win next week either but like DA said we just need to keep getting better every day and look for a better performance next week
September 17th, 2012 at 10:37 am
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 10:35 am
Some notable Corkyisms…
DHB is the 6th best WR on the team.
Raids would destroy SD week 17.
Can’t even remember the name of the punt returner that was a ‘lock’ to make the roster.
Travis Ivy was his pick to make an impact at NT.
Corky’s player ratings and predictions just don’t have much credibility anymore.
However, I do believe that it was Mark Davis’ call to fire Hue. Mark knew he was going to bring in a GM and felt that Hue was going to make the organizational restructure difficult and had challenged his authority.
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You’re thinking of Roscoe *Hands of Butter” Parrish.
Also, Cork reporting what went down with Hue has nothing to do with predicting. This is about Reggie (and maybe Mark) telling him “This is what happened.” Way different.
September 17th, 2012 at 10:38 am
“I was always an Al bootlicker because I knew it would never be the same without him. The magic is no more. Al was the main reason I became a fan.
I like rebelling and Al was a rebelling fool
I miss him ”
Agreed!
September 17th, 2012 at 10:39 am
-forget the stats, palmer missfired way too many
-arian works the zbs, mcfadden needs to figure it out
-Pat lee sucks
-our d gave up, reggie bush breaking tackles, really?
players need to be held accountable
Palmer and Mcfadden figure it out
P Lee needs to sit
D needs to step the fu#k up
September 17th, 2012 at 10:40 am
That was Reggies 6th straight game with over 100 yards rushing.
I think the fins are a better team then most think and the Raider shave been hanging by a thread for years.
It will take a total house cleaning because nobody could ever do what Al did in robbing peter to pay paul with contracts
So this move is best for the team in the long run,.
Bets to accept it or move on like norc did. I can accept it and still root for underdogs like the Athletics or the Arizona Cardinals = won 9 of last 12 games
September 17th, 2012 at 10:40 am
However, I do believe that it was Mark Davis’ call to fire Hue. Mark knew he was going to bring in a GM and felt that Hue was going to make the organizational restructure difficult and had challenged his authority.
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According to Cork, Davis talked with Hue at the end of the season, basically giving him a chance to just say “hey, man, I was emotional at my last press conference, I’m sorry, let’s go.” But, Hue basically hung himself and repeated what he said in his last presser about wanting more authority to run the show. And that was that.
MD probably told Reggie that it was ultimately his (Reggie’s) call, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he let McKenzie know his feelings in the matter and strongly hinted it would be wise to give Hubert the axe.
September 17th, 2012 at 10:41 am
I keep it real.
I picked Branch to be in a pro bowl appearance this season under this new D scheme.
Boy was I WRONG!
Dude looks horrible out there right now.
What the hell has Huff done??
September 17th, 2012 at 10:42 am
Bingo Duck!
Third question: Name any quality GM or head coach who would come here if we fired everyone now. (Hint: There are none).
You may or may not like what Reggie is doing, but the man will run the Raiders until the next presidential election, at least.
September 17th, 2012 at 10:42 am
Well thought out and reasonable reply. Now what’s the downside of blowing it up and attempting to re-charge the game plan? Remember when Tom Cable stripped Knapp and it didn’t translate into wins, but it did restore confidence. It righted the morale. This team needs a morale boost right now. If it’s going into the toilet anyway, what’s the risk here? What’s the worst that could happen?
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The worst that could happen is that it does the opposite – it destroys morale. The players who take pride in learning something and getting better at it and improving their consistency will take abandoning the OC as a sign that they’ve failed, and the season is over and that the coaches are going to kick them to the curb at a moment’s notice. They know how much work they’ve put into learning this system, and it could be very detrimental to the team to essentially tell them “all your work was for nothing, we’ve lost a few games and now we’re going in another direction”.
September 17th, 2012 at 10:42 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 10:31 am
“Palmer is 4-8 as a starter here.”
4-7 stop it!
Its not Palmer’s fault we look like crap out there.
Our offense cannot execute at the most basic level and your solution is to put in a rookie 3rd string QB?
Come on man!!
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Dont get emotional, but yes palmer is 4-7 as he didnt start the first game he played in. Thst is not very good.
Palmer is playing as well as he can, but it isnt good enough.
The problem isnt palmers numbers its his lack of certain skill for this scheme.
Carson palmer can not, does not, will not ever be able to threaten the edge on boot legs. this knee caps our offense. if the qb cant threaten the edge than the defense can fly to the ball and complete sell out to the run in the stretch game. this is why dmac cant get going. The defense sees the stretch and goes 100 % to the ball knowing palmer will not fake it and roll out with the ball.
lastly palmer has not been a leader, at least hasnt led to winning. this tem is gutless, and palmer does not inspire.
September 17th, 2012 at 10:42 am
-forget the stats, palmer missfired way too many
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waaay 2 many.
The one he missed to Moore was crucial.
Moore was in stride already w/ no safety help. If CP3 hits him he may of took it to the house.
September 17th, 2012 at 10:43 am
RaidersOne Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 10:31 am
AL D. Davis was banned for utter disrespect to club, owners and staff. Subsequently Hardline handle was messed up between screenname and password and I was instructed to pick a new screenname, which I did.
EastBay guy…..don’t know the screenname and never heard of it.
Any other questions?
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Maybe it wasn’t EastBay, but somebody else. I always know it’s you, because nobody else writes long posts discussing fiduciary duties amongst general partners in sports franchises.
September 17th, 2012 at 10:43 am
Don’t we have Al Saunders as our Senior Offensive Assistant?
Let him start calling plays…very similar playbook to Hue’s!
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But a very different playbook compared to the one this team has spent all offseason learning.
September 17th, 2012 at 10:44 am
I can’t stop laughing at people who act like we shouldve kept Routt. The Chiefs got destroyed by Buffalo, and they look just as bad as the Raiders, what they shouldve done is made a better offer to Tracey Porter. I can live with Spencer, for we need a veteran Cb anyways but Porter is just head n shoulders better than what we have in Lee and Hanson. Quick question; did we even blitz yesterday or was the blitzing so bad that it just looked like they weren’t blitzing at all?
September 17th, 2012 at 10:44 am
They ran over the Raiders like a Bus squishing squirrels going down the turnpike.
Vic Tafur.
September 17th, 2012 at 10:45 am
Isn’t that in 2 months?
September 17th, 2012 at 10:45 am
how much $ did we pay tyvon to not keep contain on the long reggie bush td? who get’s the blame for not having safety help or sliding spencer over to hartline?
September 17th, 2012 at 10:45 am
So this move is best for the team in the long run,.
Bets to accept it or move on like norc did. I can accept it and still root for underdogs like the Athletics or the Arizona Cardinals = won 9 of last 12 games
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That’s not the Al Davis way. I for one don’t endorse or embrace losing to win later. Because there is no guarantees in life. Even when you have the #1 overall choice, you could still screw it up and get a JaMarcus Russell instead of a Calvin Johnson. You could turn into that team nobody wants to go to unless its for a fat contract. We’ve been thru this before. Losing has no redeeming value. It just beats you down and before long, you come to accept it and become numb to it. I hate losing and I can’t understand people who are indifferent to it. Just can’t fathom that mindset. As a way of life, it’s a total fail.
September 17th, 2012 at 10:46 am
CP is talented but doesnt seem to make the important play. At one point he was 1 for 11 on third down conversions. He waited too long to throw the swing to DMAC who should of caught it anyway. I felt the turning point was 3rd and 6 from our 6 , he missed Dmoore on a wide open slant that at a minimum would have put us at our 35yd line or even better if moore breaks a tackle. Instead we punt from the end zone and miami gets it at the 40 and scores the TD to take the lead. Palmer had good stats , only 1 int, but doesnt have the knack to make the important play.
At this point, the combination of reggie tearing apart our Oline combined with Knapps system DMAC is a shell of himself. I dont get why there arent 4 to 5 power blocking plays suited for DMACs style. This is a typical example of a coach having more confidence in his system than balancing the needs of his star. Knapp has failed long term and has yet to show me 1 thing to believe he can lead this offense.
September 17th, 2012 at 10:47 am
The Cards are a good team to emulate in the way they have rolled with Wisenhunt. The best thing to happen is for DA to stay here for at least four year.
I bet Mark & reggie have agreed an that if nothing else. The team has to have some long term stability and they have to start treating coaches right in order to have a shot at a top HC like Duck said
Stick with Reg and the DA. Just suck it up and find another way to let out your fustrations on Sundays
September 17th, 2012 at 10:49 am
F*ck this is really depressing asking for rookie head coaches head after 2 games , fire the GM , bring back Hue ..we could have drafted this or that player … We could have done this or that … You guys just want a rookie coach to go on to a fast start or other wise he’s not good ? Wasn’t Belichick scrub in Cleveland .. Imagine if NE never hired him… Imagine if colts had cut Peyton manning after his first year .. Like I said 2 games isn’t that big of a deal let’s atleast wait until 25% of the schedule is played and ask for Knapp’s head..this is freaking brand new situation ..yes they could have brought a better OC but no body else was available …yes we could have kept Hue for his O and brought in a new D coordinator but M Davis made the call to fire the whole team and start from the ground …thus is no different than P Mannings first season ..we are going to struggle but I believe we will really be good with this staff..maybe minus knapp after it’s all said and done
September 17th, 2012 at 10:50 am
The worst that could happen is that it does the opposite – it destroys morale. The players who take pride in learning something and getting better at it and improving their consistency will take abandoning the OC as a sign that they’ve failed, and the season is over and that the coaches are going to kick them to the curb at a moment’s notice. They know how much work they’ve put into learning this system, and it could be very detrimental to the team to essentially tell them “all your work was for nothing, we’ve lost a few games and now we’re going in another direction”.
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Sorry if this bruises the tender egos of those players who feel like they have failed their coaches. But some guys need to be on notice anyway for their jobs. Next year, I expect as much or more turnover to the roster as this year. If all their work they put in…hard work produces a payoff of complete second half meltdowns, it’s time to question just how hard they are working. At some point, maybe when the team is 1-7 at the halfway point, they will all be playing for a paycheck anyway. I’ll not feel sorry for their bruised egos then.
September 17th, 2012 at 10:51 am
It might have been Art Shell who said it…I can’t remember, but when talking about the Zone Blocking Scheme he said something along the lines of: “I don’t like to give up ground in order to make up ground”
ZBS require you to take a step back in order to take two steps forward, which with our offensive line is just impossible. Were not blowing teams off the ball like we used to 2 years ago…were taking a step back and laterally, then trying to blow up field, and by then the DL has blown up the play. We saw this with McFadden on his first go around with the ZBS…when we had Cable, a renown GURU of Zone Blocking…
Did I just take a time machine back to 2007?
September 17th, 2012 at 10:51 am
Pryor will not take a meaningful snap this year. If our offense can’t get out of its own way with Palmer, a seasoned vet, whats gonna happen with Pryor? Are they suddenly going to open holes for Mcfadden? Are the receivers suddenly going to run crisp routes and beat coverages and get open? Is our oline finally going to start blocking? The only reason to put pryor would be to prove to you fans that he cant play in the NFL. To justify his dismissal from the team. Put him out there and he gets smeared, his confidence is broken, and he gets released at the end of the year.
September 17th, 2012 at 10:52 am
Guest
I am sorry to hear that. It must cause lots of problems over the past decade and I hope it does not continue.
I am more relaxed and willing to accept the fact that the Raiders blow. It must come from saying the serenity thread a few hundred times
September 17th, 2012 at 10:52 am
“Carson palmer can not, does not, will not ever be able to threaten the edge on boot legs.”
And Peyton Manning does?
Look its obvious that Palmer has no time back there in the pocket when you see Rivers and The Rookie in Miami had all the time they needed in the pocket to survey the field and look at many WR’s.
You cant judge Palmer’s play thus far when he has not had any protection and putting a 3rd sting QB in there is only going to hurt TP6 confidence at least get a running game going and some pass protection for the guy before throwing him in there.
September 17th, 2012 at 10:53 am
This blog serves as a confessional right now ….
Huff sucks.
coverage is awful, hartline caught 8 yard outs routinley.
Rolando about heat “drink some water, you’ll be ok” he was jogging around after ball carriers all day getting scorched.
o-line …. i dont care what scheme it is anymore, they don’t take the fight to the opposition, they just go through the motions.
drumroll please….
GREAT POSITIVE … imo ….
Carson Palmer, been a great leader, out there battling, not complaining, getting that ball out depsite one dimensional offense. Moore had some flashes back with him.
I think Palmer has gained a lot of repsoect from me through 2 games.
Besides that ….. we will start 0-5
September 17th, 2012 at 10:53 am
CP is talented but doesnt seem to make the important play
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I think you hit the nail on the head
September 17th, 2012 at 10:53 am
mcfadden20. Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 10:49 am
F*ck this is really depressing asking for rookie head coaches head after 2 games , fire the GM , bring back Hue ..we could have drafted this or that player … We could have done this or that … You guys just want a rookie coach to go on to a fast start or other wise he’s not good ? Wasn’t Belichick scrub in Cleveland .. Imagine if NE never hired him… Imagine if colts had cut Peyton manning after his first year .. Like I said 2 games isn’t that big of a deal let’s atleast wait until 25% of the schedule is played and ask for Knapp’s head..this is freaking brand new situation ..yes they could have brought a better OC but no body else was available …yes we could have kept Hue for his O and brought in a new D coordinator but M Davis made the call to fire the whole team and start from the ground …thus is no different than P Mannings first season ..we are going to struggle but I believe we will really be good with this staff..maybe minus knapp after it’s all said and done
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Im not asking for anything other than a sign of LIFE? Some sort of TOUGHNESS, some sort of willingness to not lay down..some sort of innovation, some sort of PULSE—
This team, this year, has shown NOTHING–NOTHING at ALL!
September 17th, 2012 at 10:53 am
WHERE IS THE JUGGERNAUT?????????
leading up to this game going back to las year all i read here was “palmer didnt have dmac” palmer didnt have moore”. well now what is the reason for our flop job?
Dmac and moore supposedly our best wr were in the game and palmer completed 50% of his passes and was abysmal ojn 3rd down.
All we heard was about how good palmer is throwing deep and thats why we had to dump his predecessor. i dont see the deep game that people tried to sell me on, in fact we were far better last year.
Palmer trade is looking like a major bust, he will need to win a game over these next 3 or he might find himself carrying a clip board.
September 17th, 2012 at 10:55 am
Plunkett,
I know what you mean though. It’s not lost on me. When asked how my team did, I tell my wife, “Raiders suck!” and she looks at me like I’m blaspheming and asks me if I want to buy a Peyton Manning jersey. I don’t want to accept it. Outwardly I try not to show that I care, but I’m lying.
September 17th, 2012 at 10:56 am
“Bcz24 Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 10:51 am
Pryor will not take a meaningful snap this year. If our offense can’t get out of its own way with Palmer, a seasoned vet, whats gonna happen with Pryor? Are they suddenly going to open holes for Mcfadden? Are the receivers suddenly going to run crisp routes and beat coverages and get open? Is our oline finally going to start blocking? The only reason to put pryor would be to prove to you fans that he cant play in the NFL. To justify his dismissal from the team. Put him out there and he gets smeared, his confidence is broken, and he gets released at the end of the year.”
Thank you!!!
Read this post Mystic1
September 17th, 2012 at 10:56 am
I can see us playing a pretty good game against Pittsburgh and getting an upset and you guys would be here celebrating like we just won the SUperbowl and all will be forgotten
September 17th, 2012 at 10:57 am
Plunketthead Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 10:35 am
I was always an Al bootlicker because I knew it would never be the same without him. The magic is no more. Al was the main reason I became a fan.
I like rebelling and Al was a rebelling fool
I miss him
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Yup. Just ain’t the same without the old man.
I know Young American disagrees with the idea of ‘RAIDER FOOTBALL’.
I saw it. I loved it. I won’t forget it.
What we’re seeing now isn’t RAIDER FOOTBALL.
It’s not just that we’re losing.
It’s the style of play. Boring.
It’s not being unique in the way we operate.
About all that’s the same is the uniforms.
September 17th, 2012 at 10:57 am
knapp still the whipping boy but with no run established we’re easy to defend no matter the scheme or plays called. smart coach implements some power blocking because it’s worked for us but we must realize that zbs is tough defense against so let’s hope mcfadden can figure it out
September 17th, 2012 at 10:58 am
thanks for trying to spike the koolaid with honey, but it’s already got plenty of cyanide to do the job.
September 17th, 2012 at 10:58 am
bcz24 Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 10:51 am
Pryor will not take a meaningful snap this year. If our offense can’t get out of its own way with Palmer, a seasoned vet, whats gonna happen with Pryor?
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This isnt the point at all, it isnt about pryor saving the season.
When we are out of contention ( no team that started 0-2 made the playoffs last year), there will be no need to keep playing palmer at the end of the year. The team will go into full evaluation mode and you will see several young players get an increase in playing time. pryor will and should be a part of that group. we dont need to go into 2013 without knowing what this kid is about, good or bad. we will need to know if we need to draft a qb
September 17th, 2012 at 10:59 am
Palmer trade was a disaster because he is in his early-30s and not in his mid to late 20s.
There is no more upside with CP….more likely downside.
Two top picks….because Hue was a terrible GM and decision maker.
As for Stanford Routt? My question to you all is this:
Is a CB that is the most penalized in the league worh $11MM?
Decisions like that is why we have guys named Pat Lee and Khalif Barnes in the starting lineup
September 17th, 2012 at 10:59 am
Bcz24 Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 10:51 am
Pryor will not take a meaningful snap this year. If our offense can’t get out of its own way with Palmer, a seasoned vet, whats gonna happen with Pryor? Are they suddenly going to open holes for Mcfadden? Are the receivers suddenly going to run crisp routes and beat coverages and get open? Is our oline finally going to start blocking? The only reason to put pryor would be to prove to you fans that he cant play in the NFL. To justify his dismissal from the team. Put him out there and he gets smeared, his confidence is broken, and he gets released at the end of the year.
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Spoken like someone who knows what they are talking about.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:00 am
At some point, have to see where Pryor is at before making a potential long-term investment in the draft
September 17th, 2012 at 11:01 am
What we’re seeing now isn’t RAIDER FOOTBALL.
It’s not just that we’re losing.
It’s the style of play. Boring.
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Could not agree more. Downfield shots, vertical passing game. Natural 4 man pressure. Big plays. The opposite of boring. That is RAIDER FOOTBALL.
This style of play lulls even the teams beating us to sleep.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:02 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 10:52 am
“Carson palmer can not, does not, will not ever be able to threaten the edge on boot legs.”
And Peyton Manning does?
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manning? superbowl winning 3 time mvp manning? never compare these two.
manning doesnt run the offense we run, he doesnt need to threaten the edge. The qb must be able to threaten the edge.
In fact the dolfins beat us using the scheme we are trying to get to. tannyhill was able to threaten the egde on bootlegs, and it opened gaping holes for bush and passing lanes. tannyhill was better in the wco than palmer yesterday. so was wilson, so was griffin.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:02 am
Charlie weis,crennel and McDaniel all coach under a great coach but they never became one,so just because reggie was under a great gm doesn’t mean he will be one.this same team that was young and going upward is about to crash and burn.we could have kept the young cb we had instead of some never beens.al would have kept everyone and brought in Mario Williams but Reggie doesn’t even understand the cap.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:02 am
The team will go into full evaluation mode and you will see several young players get an increase in playing time. pryor will and should be a part of that group. we dont need to go into 2013 without knowing what this kid is about, good or bad. we will need to know if we need to draft a qb
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Exactly.
Mistic and I are agreeing a lot lately. The Mayans may be right.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:03 am
September 17th, 2012 at 10:17 am
Miami is a suckwad team and I put their ceiling at 5 wins. And they just crushed us in all 3 phases. That’s the barometer of just how bad we are.
2-14? First pick overall. Likely I think.
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I think it’s worse because, in the Russell years and just prior to that, we KNEW we were screwed from game 1. Balls littering the ground in 7 on 7 in training camp. I at least, expected “the suck”
This year, maybe I’m a fool….It feels like standing at the alter and wondering “Where the Fu*k is my girl?” Everyone looking around wondering the same thing. She’s gone…..Bailed
I sure feel like a fuc*n FOOL.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:03 am
MikieG Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 10:53 am
mcfadden20. Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 10:49 am
F*ck this is really depressing asking for rookie head coaches head after 2 games , fire the GM , bring back Hue ..we could have drafted this or that player … We could have done this or that … You guys just want a rookie coach to go on to a fast start or other wise he’s not good ? Wasn’t Belichick scrub in Cleveland .. Imagine if NE never hired him… Imagine if colts had cut Peyton manning after his first year .. Like I said 2 games isn’t that big of a deal let’s atleast wait until 25% of the schedule is played and ask for Knapp’s head..this is freaking brand new situation ..yes they could have brought a better OC but no body else was available …yes we could have kept Hue for his O and brought in a new D coordinator but M Davis made the call to fire the whole team and start from the ground …thus is no different than P Mannings first season ..we are going to struggle but I believe we will really be good with this staff..maybe minus knapp after it’s all said and done
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Im not asking for anything other than a sign of LIFE? Some sort of TOUGHNESS, some sort of willingness to not lay down..some sort of innovation, some sort of PULSE—
This team, this year, has shown NOTHING–NOTHING at ALL!
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The reason is this team looks like it could have used some extra month of training .. This team looks like it needs to play together a few more weeks without major injuries to do something Positive …
September 17th, 2012 at 11:03 am
To be fair, Mistic…I don’t think tannehill would have done anything with our line yesterday!
September 17th, 2012 at 11:03 am
Chances we beat PITT?
Anyone? The way I saw Dwyer run over jets defenders makes me realize he will steamroll us.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:05 am
hwnrdr Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:03 am
To be fair, Mistic…I don’t think tannehill would have done anything with our line yesterday!
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On that note … MIA defense was a violent pass rush they barley had single high safeties, they brought the house and made us one dimensional…. I thought our new d-coord / coach was inventive like this?
September 17th, 2012 at 11:06 am
raiderinparadise Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:03 am
Chances we beat PITT?
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1 in 100.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:06 am
Raiderinparadise Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:03 am
Chances we beat PITT?
Anyone? The way I saw Dwyer run over jets defenders makes me realize he will steamroll us.
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Who knows? After yesterday’s awful second half, I’m going into next week’s game with zero expectations.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:06 am
Raider O Says:
Riff is Mr. I played college football so don’t argue with me
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I dont know more than you because I played college ball. I played college ball because I know more than you.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:06 am
Pitt -4. Money in the bank
September 17th, 2012 at 11:07 am
My fellow long-suffering fans, f*% Hue. He is history. Let’s focus on the now. Why is it that the once fearsome Raiders have become toothless boasters who can’t do basic football like TACKLE, cover, block, etc..? Forget about win/loss for a second. What happened to the pride? I saw a listless, badly coached team yesterday. That was NOT Raider football. How do we get THAT back?? Let’s start there.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:07 am
TannEhil didn’t do anything yesterday .. We could have shut them down if we had atleast an average CB playing instead of P Lee … This guy bailed Miami out of every 3rd down imaginable
September 17th, 2012 at 11:08 am
If we start 0-5 and if the organization (coaching and GM) are commited to this style of offense,
Im going to say it, trade McFadden while he’s hot for picks.
It will take McFadden a few years to get comfortable with only a few great years left. He does not thrive in the ZBS system. He looks lost trying to hit the openings. Here are some numbers that support this:
Average Yards Rushing per Game:
2008: 38 rushing yards per game (13 games played)(zbs)
2009: 30 rushing yards per game (12 games played)(zbs)
2010: 89 rushing yards per game (13 games played)(Hue)
2011: 87 rushing yards per game (7 games played)(Hue)
Thats roughly a 67% drop off!
Hue Jackson said it best, Im going to bring a offense that best suits my players. McFadden came from a power run game at Arkansas. Bottom line, that’s his perference and he thrives in it.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:08 am
The ONLY positive is that 20 teams will be 1-1 after week 2 …. most ever in NFL history.
If somehow oakland can shock pitt and den and no way we can beat atlanta …. 2-3 would be decent looking at the easier back half schedule.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:08 am
I think it’s worse because, in the Russell years and just prior to that, we KNEW we were screwed from game 1. Balls littering the ground in 7 on 7 in training camp. I at least, expected “the suck”
This year, maybe I’m a fool….It feels like standing at the alter and wondering “Where the Fu*k is my girl?” Everyone looking around wondering the same thing. She’s gone…..Bailed
I sure feel like a fuc*n FOOL.
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You and me both. This year, for the first time ever I got a Raiders jersey. (well my wife bought it for my birthday). It was a white Carson Palmer #3 jersey. I was sipping the koolaid bro. And the excitement of the “New Era of Excellence” is just a new era of excrement. sad
September 17th, 2012 at 11:09 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:06 am
raiderinparadise Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:03 am
Chances we beat PITT?
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1 in 100.
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So we have a chance?
September 17th, 2012 at 11:09 am
Carl Weathers Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:06 am
Pitt -4. Money in the bank
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Get your money on the table fast cuz that line is gonna move.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:09 am
hwnrdr Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:03 am
To be fair, Mistic…I don’t think tannehill would have done anything with our line yesterday!
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our line is not very good that is obvious. yet another reason palmer’s time is running out. Bootlegs slow down the pass rush. Play actions on stretch plays and misdirection slow down the pass rush. If your qb is stiff as a card board cut out you will have issues.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:10 am
Bullshlt!!!!!!
September 17th, 2012 at 11:10 am
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
About all that’s the same is the uniforms.
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And the losing. Keep holding on to your “vertical passing game”. You know, the one that had JC tossing 45 yard bombs 8 yds out of bounds.
Go blow another infant baby RM99.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:11 am
when we’re getting beat down sunday and all those pitt fans start talking schit, it could get ugly
September 17th, 2012 at 11:11 am
and the flags … wow … penalties are off the chain again.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:11 am
Let’s just say we are still in Pre-season mode ? And our real season begins against steelers ??
September 17th, 2012 at 11:12 am
Javier Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:08 am
If we start 0-5 and if the organization (coaching and GM) are commited to this style of offense,
Im going to say it, trade McFadden while he’s hot for picks.
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There’s also still a perception around the league that he’s an elite back. These past two games has proven that not to be true.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:15 am
Burn it all down!!!! We got knapp! Why build around dmac and dmoore?? We got KNAPP!! Weeeee!!! What a rush!!
September 17th, 2012 at 11:15 am
Javier Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:08 am
If we start 0-5 and if the organization (coaching and GM) are commited to this style of offense,
Im going to say it, trade McFadden while he’s hot for picks.
It will take McFadden a few years to get comfortable with only a few great years left. He does not thrive in the ZBS system. He looks lost trying to hit the openings. Here are some numbers that support this:
Average Yards Rushing per Game:
2008: 38 rushing yards per game (13 games played)(zbs)
2009: 30 rushing yards per game (12 games played)(zbs)
2010: 89 rushing yards per game (13 games played)(Hue)
2011: 87 rushing yards per game (7 games played)(Hue)
Thats roughly a 67% drop off!
Hue Jackson said it best, Im going to bring a offense that best suits my players. McFadden came from a power run game at Arkansas. Bottom line, that’s his perference and he thrives in it.
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McFadden came from a ZBS at Arkansas.
More idiots join this blog every day.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:15 am
Meanwhile russel wilson took apart the cowboys yesterday. The seahwks used wco scheme but their passing was dep in the seams. wilsons ability the threaten the edge or run the qb draw kept the cowboys hesitant the entire game, and wilson toyed with them.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:15 am
You and me both. This year, for the first time ever I got a Raiders jersey. (well my wife bought it for my birthday). It was a white Carson Palmer #3 jersey. I was sipping the koolaid bro. And the excitement of the “New Era of Excellence” is just a new era of excrement. sad
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I don’t even know what to get excited about anymore. Lot of good points in these posts….I like Riff’s arguments about players executing and not capitalizing on opportunities, but at the same time, scheme has GOT to play somewhat of a factor. We have alot of the same players that seemingly produced at a higher level last year. I realize that momentum is everything…And this team isn’t mentally tough enough to keep fighting when they face adversity early in games. Look at Stanford / USC Saturday. I don’t think Stanford is all that impressive offensively…But they never quit FIGHTING. That was a victory of pure grit and determination when USC clearly had the superior players.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:16 am
On a positive note…
Spencer played very well again, but got hurt.
Is it time to give microphone Checwa a shot?
September 17th, 2012 at 11:16 am
Per ESPN:
“After an 0 – 2 start, Al Davis has fired Head Coach Dennis Allen and promoted offensive coordinator Greg Knapp to interim Head Coach.”
September 17th, 2012 at 11:18 am
Theghostronin79 Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:15 am
You and me both. This year, for the first time ever I got a Raiders jersey. (well my wife bought it for my birthday). It was a white Carson Palmer #3 jersey. I was sipping the koolaid bro. And the excitement of the “New Era of Excellence” is just a new era of excrement. sad
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I don’t even know what to get excited about anymore. Lot of good points in these posts….I like Riff’s arguments about players executing and not capitalizing on opportunities, but at the same time, scheme has GOT to play somewhat of a factor. We have alot of the same players that seemingly produced at a higher level last year. I realize that momentum is everything…And this team isn’t mentally tough enough to keep fighting when they face adversity early in games. Look at Stanford / USC Saturday. I don’t think Stanford is all that impressive offensively…But they never quit FIGHTING. That was a victory of pure grit and determination when USC clearly had the superior players.
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Stop acting like we were a winning football team in any of the past decade. We werent.
We’ve changed schemes a bunch of times and it got us the same results every time. Losing.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:18 am
our line is not very good that is obvious. yet another reason palmer’s time is running out. Bootlegs slow down the pass rush. Play actions on stretch plays and misdirection slow down the pass rush. If your qb is stiff as a card board cut out you will have issues.
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So Pryor would be perfect for this scheme then …
September 17th, 2012 at 11:18 am
I heard that Knapp is baffled, everything looks so good in practice when they go #1Defense v. #1 Offense? Considering we have a top 5 defense what could be the problem? I blame it on the black Jerseys and Miami drugged our water…
September 17th, 2012 at 11:19 am
Raider Riff Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:06 am
Raider O Says:
Riff is Mr. I played college football so don’t argue with me
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I dont know more than you because I played college ball. I played college ball because I know more than you.
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The way you talked i thought you had to be a former NFL something..Didnt realize your one of those angry guys who didnt make..The good news is you’ll always have your claim that Jeff George was one of the best ever at reading defenses..LMAO ..
September 17th, 2012 at 11:19 am
Theghostronin79 Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:15 am
You and me both. This year, for the first time ever I got a Raiders jersey. (well my wife bought it for my birthday). It was a white Carson Palmer #3 jersey. I was sipping the koolaid bro. And the excitement of the “New Era of Excellence” is just a new era of excrement. sad
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I don’t even know what to get excited about anymore. Lot of good points in these posts….I like Riff’s arguments about players executing and not capitalizing on opportunities, but at the same time, scheme has GOT to play somewhat of a factor. We have alot of the same players that seemingly produced at a higher level last year. I realize that momentum is everything…And this team isn’t mentally tough enough to keep fighting when they face adversity early in games. Look at Stanford / USC Saturday. I don’t think Stanford is all that impressive offensively…But they never quit FIGHTING. That was a victory of pure grit and determination when USC clearly had the superior players.
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Scheme isnt going to fix stupid. Stupid penalties. Stupid turnovers. Stupid missed tackles.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:19 am
Cam newton is completely redefining offensive football.
cam newton ran spread option football yesterday and was unstoppable. he was just bigger faster better than everyone on the field. His o line played much better, and i thnk the option game really helped them out. you literally can see the defenders taking false steps, and waiting on their heels when cam is with ball in hand. The ball fakes derailed the defensive scheme, and he hammered the saints into submission.
I think pryor can do something similar
September 17th, 2012 at 11:20 am
Rem last year there were some teams that looked so horrible we predicted them to finish 0-16 like Kc Chiefs and Den Broncos ..then they started to play well and ended up with decent standings ..let’s just hope that’s the case and this 2 games were get to know and feel each other kinda games .. And we will upset the Steelers ..rem last year GB lost to the KC Chiefs and it was their only loss of the season ..we can beat Pittsburgh too anything is possible ..rem last week Pitts looked so bad Losing against Den ,Jets looked so good beating buffalo ..guess what Buffalo put an a$s whooping on KC …Pitts whooped Jets …Atlanta is going to whoop Den tonight…so the moral of the story is it’s any different Sunday anything can happen ..teams can look absolutely horrible one week and can go on to next week and look like world beaters or the vice versa
September 17th, 2012 at 11:21 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:19 am
Cam newton is completely redefining offensive football.
cam newton ran spread option football yesterday and was unstoppable. he was just bigger faster better than everyone on the field. His o line played much better, and i thnk the option game really helped them out. you literally can see the defenders taking false steps, and waiting on their heels when cam is with ball in hand. The ball fakes derailed the defensive scheme, and he hammered the saints into submission.
I think pryor can do something similar
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Don’t know that Pryor has Newton’s accuracy.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:21 am
GHOST RAIDER Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:18 am
our line is not very good that is obvious. yet another reason palmer’s time is running out. Bootlegs slow down the pass rush. Play actions on stretch plays and misdirection slow down the pass rush. If your qb is stiff as a card board cut out you will have issues.
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So Pryor would be perfect for this scheme then …
YES!
September 17th, 2012 at 11:21 am
DutchRaider77 Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:18 am
I heard that Knapp is baffled, everything looks so good in practice when they go #1Defense v. #1 Offense? Considering we have a top 5 defense what could be the problem? I blame it on the black Jerseys and Miami drugged our water…
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We have losers. Guys who cant deliver in the clutch. Guys who have chances and miss them. DHB had a chance at two TDs yesterday and didnt come close.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:21 am
What a Riff off, Knapp is on of the highest paid OCs in the NFL smh
September 17th, 2012 at 11:22 am
Nyraider Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:19 am
Raider Riff Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:06 am
Raider O Says:
Riff is Mr. I played college football so don’t argue with me
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I dont know more than you because I played college ball. I played college ball because I know more than you.
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The way you talked i thought you had to be a former NFL something..Didnt realize your one of those angry guys who didnt make..The good news is you’ll always have your claim that Jeff George was one of the best ever at reading defenses..LMAO ..
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Its not my claim. Its the claim of his former coaches. Nice try though.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:22 am
Is it time to give MM a shot at the SS position? (Branch has played horrible)
Is it time to give Gio a shot at starting the FS position? (Huffy hasn’t done schit!)
I think its time to start Bryant over D!ck Seymour!
September 17th, 2012 at 11:23 am
Don’t know that Pryor has Newton’s accuracy
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not even close
September 17th, 2012 at 11:23 am
Too bad these same players Riff has issues with are on tape makin plays in a different scheme the last couple years
September 17th, 2012 at 11:24 am
Stop acting like we were a winning football team in any of the past decade. We werent.
We’ve changed schemes a bunch of times and it got us the same results every time. Losing.
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I just don’t know what to think man. I can see what’s happening and that’s what’s making me crazy. I agree with almost everything you gotta say. When guys start excelling and playing better, then start regressing, I don’t know what to think. I never thought we were “Good”, but I thought we were moving in the “right” direction. Now it looks bleak again.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:24 am
DMAC Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:22 am
I think its time to start Bryant over D!ck Seymour!
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Possibly. Our run defense is noticeably worse when Kelly and Seymour are together in the middle.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:24 am
Is it time to give MM a shot at the SS position? (Branch has played horrible)
Is it time to give Gio a shot at starting the FS position? (Huffy hasn’t done schit!)
I think its time to start Bryant over D!ck Seymour
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3 interesting takes, definitely think bryant shold be playing more if not ahead of seymour
September 17th, 2012 at 11:24 am
So I checked out about 5 Mock Drafts today just to see what most people are thinking and almost every Mock Draft I’ve seen has us taking a QB… I see people giving us picks anywhere from 1-10 and still most of them are predicting a New QB for the Silver and Black. Only exception is Walter Football predicting a DE/OLB. Reggie is rebuilding this team from the ground up and wasnt able to have the picks he wanted to start this year so he plugged holes with what ever he could find. I now expect with us stumbling in to the season and having a very difficult schedule that Mckenzie will get the chance to hand pick his own QB and start from the ground up. Were in for a long ride and all we can really do is hold on and ride it out
September 17th, 2012 at 11:25 am
Pryor will never get a shot here with dumb@ss DA and even dumber Greg Knapp running things. They are to STUPID to try anything that will help the players succeed. I wonder who’s dumber Reg Mac, DA , or Knapp ? Its Knapp…
September 17th, 2012 at 11:26 am
Pitt -4. Money in the bank
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It’s only 4 ??
Thought we’d be getting 7.
I think the Raids can be competitive in this one. I know they can play better than they did in Miami.
Sanchez stinks and yet the Jets were in that game most of the way. I got the feeling the squeeler defense isn’t what it used to be and a better passing attack might have beat them.
BRoth figures to absolutely torch the Raid secondary though.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:26 am
Well…….
On another positive note…….
Shonasty is still nasty and looks fully recovered from his surgery.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:27 am
We Need to do bunch of sh1t Better on both sides of the field but especially on O .. R and P block better ,, pass better , catch better … Call better plays .. Execute better etc etc and I think this Is not just Knapp’s fault .. We need receivers healthy every week can’t have Palmer throwing to a new starting WR every week and he need to just hit anybody he sees open in red zone .. For example had he dumped down that pass to McFadden in that one drive McFadden might have scored or atleast gotten more closer to the goal line … We just need to execute better
September 17th, 2012 at 11:27 am
The spread’s 4?
I had it pegged at about 20…
September 17th, 2012 at 11:27 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:15 am
Meanwhile russel wilson took apart the cowboys yesterday. The seahwks used wco scheme but their passing was dep in the seams. wilsons ability the threaten the edge or run the qb draw kept the cowboys hesitant the entire game, and wilson toyed with them.
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Yeah. His 151 yds. passing is close to being a new record.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:27 am
Raider Riff Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 6:34 am
Nyraider Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 6:32 am
Carson Palmer = Jeff George
Good Stats no results
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Jeff George could read D’s as good as any in league history. And there wasnt a throw he couldnt make.
His problem was leadership. CP3 doesnt have a leadership problem, yet. He needs to grab his guys by the facemask and lay into them tho.
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Here ya go Riff, guess they didnt teach you at your college when you type something its actually your opinion, …
September 17th, 2012 at 11:27 am
1170.Marks hair Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:15 am
Burn it all down!!!! We got knapp! Why build around dmac and dmoore?? We got KNAPP!! Weeeee!!! What a rush!!
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This is kinda how I feel about having Mike Brown as the HC of the Lakers….I feel pretty good about the players the Lakers picked up this offseason, but in the back of my mind I know Brown will never lead a team to a title….with Knapp, I knew the offense would take a major hit. I had hoped that Knapp learned a thing or two while washing jock straps in Houston, but obviously he did not.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:28 am
Its not that hard to mix in a few power running plays that DMAC prefers to run.
Get it done Knapp!!!
September 17th, 2012 at 11:28 am
Is it just me or was this loss easier to stomach than the loss to SD? Don’t get me wrong because I HATE losing but the SD loss f’ed me up longer than this one. Maybe it was all the Sharter fans talking shiznit before the game and then rubbing it in my face afterwards. Maybe it was because this one wasn’t even close. Although now that I’m typing this, I’m getting more upset. I was one of the ones that said it was too early to start the public executions but you can sign me up. Greg Knapp . . . OFF WITH HIS HEAD!!!
September 17th, 2012 at 11:28 am
Realtruraider Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:23 am
Too bad these same players Riff has issues with are on tape makin plays in a different scheme the last couple years
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Oh yeah, I forgot how many times we made the playoffs the last few seasons. My bad.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:28 am
Cam newton is completely redefining offensive football.
cam newton ran spread option football yesterday and was unstoppable. he was just bigger faster better than everyone on the field. His o line played much better, and i thnk the option game really helped them out. you literally can see the defenders taking false steps, and waiting on their heels when cam is with ball in hand. The ball fakes derailed the defensive scheme, and he hammered the saints into submission.
I think pryor can do something similar
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We don’t have a creative OC to even think about using Pryor in any situation, the Krapp can’t even put a player like DMC in the right situation to succeed, let alone a player like Pryor
September 17th, 2012 at 11:29 am
@Raider Riff
Jeff George=Jay Cutler?
September 17th, 2012 at 11:30 am
A few of us in here told the rest of you that Branch was overrated, and I certainly did not think he should have been given a long-term contract. I just hope Reggie made that contract one that we can terminate without too much trouble.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:30 am
Theghostronin79 Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:24 am
Stop acting like we were a winning football team in any of the past decade. We werent.
We’ve changed schemes a bunch of times and it got us the same results every time. Losing.
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I just don’t know what to think man. I can see what’s happening and that’s what’s making me crazy. I agree with almost everything you gotta say. When guys start excelling and playing better, then start regressing, I don’t know what to think. I never thought we were “Good”, but I thought we were moving in the “right” direction. Now it looks bleak again.
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Im as frustrated as you bro.
I had high hopes for these guys. I really thought a modern D scheme would change things. But as evidence by Bush’s first TD run yesterday, we havent changed at all.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:31 am
RaiderDuck Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:21 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:19 am
Cam newton is completely redefining offensive football.
cam newton ran spread option football yesterday and was unstoppable. he was just bigger faster better than everyone on the field. His o line played much better, and i thnk the option game really helped them out. you literally can see the defenders taking false steps, and waiting on their heels when cam is with ball in hand. The ball fakes derailed the defensive scheme, and he hammered the saints into submission.
I think pryor can do something similar
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Don’t know that Pryor has Newton’s accuracy.
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He doesnt, but it is a lot better than what he gets credit for. he improved with every snap in the pre season and seemd to be getting more and more comfrtable.
he doesnt have to be as good as cam or RGIII but he will be a unique playuer that teams cant prepare for.
This is what made tebow dangerous last year. this is why RgIII and newton will tear it up this year.
You simply cant truly prepare for thier unque styles or thier offense.
a liitle shotgun / pistol with some option and misdirection and you will see tp making defenders look foolish.
pryor is at his best when he is ball faking with play action. If you run the zone in one direction but pryor is a threat to keep it gong the other way on boot legs, the defense must wait before they can react or the risk guessing wrong and being caught out of position. this is how he exploded for the best performance of any of our qbs in the pre season.
the countdown is on
September 17th, 2012 at 11:31 am
I can live w/ the 1st half, but WTF happened in the 2nd?
Fatigue?
Out coached?
Gave up?
Unprepared?
Time zone?
September 17th, 2012 at 11:32 am
Raider Riff Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:28 am
Realtruraider Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:23 am
Too bad these same players Riff has issues with are on tape makin plays in a different scheme the last couple years
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Oh yeah, I forgot how many times we made the playoffs the last few seasons. My bad.
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If you really knew anything about NFL Football, you would know the DC was the main problem last year, plus injuries etc to our top players on offense didn’t help. Now our biggest issue is the OC OBVIOUSLY so far, you cannot argue this, it makes you look silly
September 17th, 2012 at 11:32 am
1208.Dakota Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:30 am
A few of us in here told the rest of you that Branch was overrated, and I certainly did not think he should have been given a long-term contract. I just hope Reggie made that contract one that we can terminate without too much trouble.
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17 million in guaranteed money. That won’t all be paid until the end of the 3rd season.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:32 am
We havent done a good job in a lot of areas ..just need to keep improving
September 17th, 2012 at 11:33 am
1211.DMAC Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:31 am
I can live w/ the 1st half, but WTF happened in the 2nd?
Fatigue?
Out coached?
Gave up?
Unprepared?
Time zone?
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yes.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:33 am
Oh and Slowlando McLazy made an appearance again yesterday….missed tackles and jogging behind plays while his teammates sprinted after the ball….is that the type of leader the Raiders wanted him to be?
September 17th, 2012 at 11:33 am
Knapp can’t even find a way to utilize Reece’s skills.
I saw Reece on the bench sitting next to DMAC. He clearly looked frustrated and pissed the fk off!
September 17th, 2012 at 11:33 am
-personell wise missing a cb and an edge rusher
-i see people open on o short and deep
-the d shows signs of being solid then gives up 35
we’re at least average if we establish the run and d competes the whole game
September 17th, 2012 at 11:33 am
a liitle shotgun / pistol with some option and misdirection and you will see tp making defenders look foolish.
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Knapp run a pistol formation? Hahahah, I wish, dude.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:34 am
DutchRaider77 Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:29 am
@Raider Riff
Jeff George=Jay Cutler?
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I havent heard that yet. From all accounts, Jay’s players typically like him.
Georges teammates always hated him. Even back in college. The guy was just a grade A prick.
Cutler just seems a lil immature. Im not so quick to throw the guy under the bus yet. Chicago is not a very good org or city to play for. They dont have a good track record with QBs.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:34 am
Is Knapp to stupid or too arrogant to scheme his play calling to help our star players succeed?
September 17th, 2012 at 11:35 am
1221.GHOST RAIDER Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:34 am
Is Knapp to stupid or too arrogant to scheme his play calling to help our star players succeed?
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Or?
*And* is the correct word there.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:35 am
1208.Dakota Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:30 am
A few of us in here told the rest of you that Branch was overrated, and I certainly did not think he should have been given a long-term contract. I just hope Reggie made that contract one that we can terminate without too much trouble.
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Boy was I WRONG!!!
September 17th, 2012 at 11:36 am
Mistic1
If you really want Pryor to have a chance in the NFL, you should hope and pray he doesn’t touch the field this season. Between Knapp’s playcalling, and the what Knapp has done to the offensive line, Pryor would come out of the year with serious damage to both his body and his confidence. You should hope that he gets a chance with a new OC next year.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:36 am
WE NEED TO ESTABLISH THE RUN!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 17th, 2012 at 11:37 am
Raider Riff Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:30 am
Theghostronin79 Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:24 am
Stop acting like we were a winning football team in any of the past decade. We werent.
We’ve changed schemes a bunch of times and it got us the same results every time. Losing.
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I just don’t know what to think man. I can see what’s happening and that’s what’s making me crazy. I agree with almost everything you gotta say. When guys start excelling and playing better, then start regressing, I don’t know what to think. I never thought we were “Good”, but I thought we were moving in the “right” direction. Now it looks bleak again.
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Im as frustrated as you bro.
I had high hopes for these guys. I really thought a modern D scheme would change things. But as evidence by Bush’s first TD run yesterday, we havent changed at all.
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Relax we have a new Coordinator in place.. Dick Lebue (sp) didn’t look like a HOF coordinator his first couple of games
September 17th, 2012 at 11:37 am
DMAC Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:31 am
I can live w/ the 1st half, but WTF happened in the 2nd?
Fatigue?
Out coached?
Gave up?
Unprepared?
Time zone?
Exactly my thoughts yesterday!
September 17th, 2012 at 11:37 am
Here’s the one hope the Raiders have against Pittsburgh: it looks to be an easy game for them and then a bye afterward, followed by a game against Philly. They may be looking way past us and be primed to be caught by surprise. They’ve been susceptible to this kind of thing under Tomlin.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:37 am
Realtruraider Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:32 am
Raider Riff Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:28 am
Realtruraider Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:23 am
Too bad these same players Riff has issues with are on tape makin plays in a different scheme the last couple years
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Oh yeah, I forgot how many times we made the playoffs the last few seasons. My bad.
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If you really knew anything about NFL Football, you would know the DC was the main problem last year, plus injuries etc to our top players on offense didn’t help. Now our biggest issue is the OC OBVIOUSLY so far, you cannot argue this, it makes you look silly
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Our DC was a problem, but so was our players. Yesterday proved that.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:39 am
Mcfadden20. Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:37 am
Raider Riff Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:30 am
Theghostronin79 Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:24 am
Stop acting like we were a winning football team in any of the past decade. We werent.
We’ve changed schemes a bunch of times and it got us the same results every time. Losing.
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I just don’t know what to think man. I can see what’s happening and that’s what’s making me crazy. I agree with almost everything you gotta say. When guys start excelling and playing better, then start regressing, I don’t know what to think. I never thought we were “Good”, but I thought we were moving in the “right” direction. Now it looks bleak again.
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Im as frustrated as you bro.
I had high hopes for these guys. I really thought a modern D scheme would change things. But as evidence by Bush’s first TD run yesterday, we havent changed at all.
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Relax we have a new Coordinator in place.. Dick Lebue (sp) didn’t look like a HOF coordinator his first couple of games
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Im a believer in Tarver. I like what he’s doing.
I just cant defend our players anymore. Reggies first TD was classic loserville. Mitchell wiffed, then 3 guys got bowled over by a scat back.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:39 am
ZBS blows! so does knapp!
its gonna be a long FAHQIN season thanx to this idiot!
September 17th, 2012 at 11:39 am
DMAC Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:35 am
1208.Dakota Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:30 am
A few of us in here told the rest of you that Branch was overrated, and I certainly did not think he should have been given a long-term contract. I just hope Reggie made that contract one that we can terminate without too much trouble.
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Boy was I WRONG!!!
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Wow after 2 games in new scheme..
September 17th, 2012 at 11:40 am
Text message transcript:
Hue: Reggie ol buddy ol pal … sorry about the 0-2 start and 2ypc avg in the run game. Hey, I been thinkin … whatta ya say we both just forget about your terminating me and lets build this bully! I still have my playbook ready to go in full swing.
Reggie: Ok, I will give Knapp one more shot against Pitt. I will call you Monday morning.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:40 am
1231.SouthTexasRaider Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:39 am
ZBS blows! so does knapp!
its gonna be a long FAHQIN season thanx to this idiot!
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STR speaks the trueffffff!
September 17th, 2012 at 11:40 am
Knapp will do nothing to change his style of football, in all the years of demotions and failure he has yet to learn how to call plays. shame on our upper staff for hiring this dude and not looking at his track record. the dude flat out sucks along with most of our players on D.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:41 am
mcfadden20. Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:39 am
DMAC Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:35 am
1208.Dakota Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:30 am
A few of us in here told the rest of you that Branch was overrated, and I certainly did not think he should have been given a long-term contract. I just hope Reggie made that contract one that we can terminate without too much trouble.
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Boy was I WRONG!!!
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Wow after 2 games in new scheme..
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Letting a RB get to edge is not scheme. Branch took a horrible angle and it cost us 6.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:41 am
branden.w Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:28 am
Is it just me or was this loss easier to stomach than the loss to SD? Don’t get me wrong because I HATE losing but the SD loss f’ed me up longer than this one. Maybe it was all the Sharter fans talking shiznit before the game and then rubbing it in my face afterwards. Maybe it was because this one wasn’t even close. Although now that I’m typing this, I’m getting more upset. I was one of the ones that said it was too early to start the public executions but you can sign me up. Greg Knapp . . . OFF WITH HIS HEAD!!!
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No it was/is easier to stomach because last week was the 1st game and most of us still thought Knapp was saving his best playcalling for that 1st game, but we all saw the same damn thing we saw in preseason, so most of us already made up our mind on the Krapp offense and myself said I was in a wait and see mode on the whole team including the D which looked good last week, I mean the D looked good in last years 1st game also, allowing similar stats on run D etc as this years home opener. I almost expected this, so it didn’t hurt near as bad.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:41 am
Im a believer in Tarver. I like what he’s doing.
I just cant defend our players anymore. Reggies first TD was classic loserville. Mitchell wiffed, then 3 guys got bowled over by a scat back.
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Yup
September 17th, 2012 at 11:41 am
Raiderinparadise Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:40 am
Text message transcript:
Hue: Reggie ol buddy ol pal … sorry about the 0-2 start and 2ypc avg in the run game. Hey, I been thinkin … whatta ya say we both just forget about your terminating me and lets build this bully! I still have my playbook ready to go in full swing.
Reggie: Ok, I will give Knapp one more shot against Pitt. I will call you Monday morning.
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Yep. That is how all the other winning franchises do things.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:42 am
DJ Johnny Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:27 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:15 am
Meanwhile russel wilson took apart the cowboys yesterday. The seahwks used wco scheme but their passing was dep in the seams. wilsons ability the threaten the edge or run the qb draw kept the cowboys hesitant the entire game, and wilson toyed with them.
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Yeah. His 151 yds. passing is close to being a new record.
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why comment on this if you didnt see the game?
It isnt the passing yards, it is the overall efficiency. The main thing the wco demands of the qb is solid decision making and efficiency.
15 cmp 20 att 151 yds 75.0 cmp%
7.55 ypa 1 td 0 int - 112.7 qb rate
you must be one of those guys that would rather have the qb throw for 371 yards while completing 50% of his passes in a loss
September 17th, 2012 at 11:42 am
DMAC Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:41 am
mcfadden20. Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:39 am
DMAC Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:35 am
1208.Dakota Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:30 am
A few of us in here told the rest of you that Branch was overrated, and I certainly did not think he should have been given a long-term contract. I just hope Reggie made that contract one that we can terminate without too much trouble.
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Boy was I WRONG!!!
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Wow after 2 games in new scheme..
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Letting a RB get to edge is not scheme. Branch took a horrible angle and it cost us 6.
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Bingo. Somebody was watching.
Im not saying Branch sucks outright. He just sucked yesterday.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:42 am
How in the FAHQ can sorry knapp not know or feel his stupid @ss bullschit scheme isnt working!
cant even practice it right cause you cant cut block your own defense?????
HOW IN THE FAHQ ARE WE SUPPPOSE TO GET BETTER IF YOU CANT EVEN SEE WHATS BROKEN TO FIX IT???!!!!???
this is a sorry offense to watch!
PISSED!
September 17th, 2012 at 11:42 am
I just cant defend our players anymore. Reggies first TD was classic loserville. Mitchell wiffed, then 3 guys got bowled over by a scat back.
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Thought I saw another Mitchell whiff on Reggie Bush…other than that did MM play a good game? Saw some posters were actually calling for him to start?
September 17th, 2012 at 11:42 am
1232.mcfadden20. Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:39 am
DMAC Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:35 am
1208.Dakota Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:30 am
A few of us in here told the rest of you that Branch was overrated, and I certainly did not think he should have been given a long-term contract. I just hope Reggie made that contract one that we can terminate without too much trouble.
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Boy was I WRONG!!!
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Wow after 2 games in new scheme..
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No, Branch has sucked EVERY YEAR HE HAS PLAYED until last year….supposedly…..even though I seem to have watched his running around with his hands up looking confused and blaming everyone else in the secondary routine last year too….
September 17th, 2012 at 11:43 am
With all due respect, you can’t call someone stupid and use the wrong ‘to’ in the same sentence.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:43 am
Cut Seymour now. This from Vic Tafur on Twitter:
“Vic Tafur @VicTafur
Richard Seymour asked what he might say to fans, to give them hope … “Not a whole lot, based on that performance,” Seymour said, glumly.”
That’s the loser mentality Reggie and Coach Allen need to fumigate. Can’t have that sch!t, ESPECIALLY from a veteran “leader”.
Granted, I don’t disagree with what Seymour is saying, but I’m just a fan not one of the locker room vets.
Get him out.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:43 am
Until.
We.
Run.
Block.
We.
Will.
Lose.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:43 am
Javier Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:08 am
If we start 0-5 and if the organization (coaching and GM) are commited to this style of offense,
Im going to say it, trade McFadden while he’s hot for picks.
It will take McFadden a few years to get comfortable with only a few great years left. He does not thrive in the ZBS system. He looks lost trying to hit the openings. Here are some numbers that support this:
Average Yards Rushing per Game:
2008: 38 rushing yards per game (13 games played)(zbs)
2009: 30 rushing yards per game (12 games played)(zbs)
2010: 89 rushing yards per game (13 games played)(Hue)
2011: 87 rushing yards per game (7 games played)(Hue)
Thats roughly a 67% drop off!
Hue Jackson said it best, Im going to bring a offense that best suits my players. McFadden came from a power run game at Arkansas. Bottom line, that’s his perference and he thrives in it.
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McFadden came from a ZBS at Arkansas.
More idiots join this blog every day.
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Wildcat does not = ZBS dumb$**!
September 17th, 2012 at 11:43 am
Well…….
At least I kicked some ass in FF.
(Thanx to b!tch ass Reggie lol)
Later peoples!
Go A’s!
Go Dubs!
Go Cal Bears! (fire Tedford)
Go Raiders!
September 17th, 2012 at 11:44 am
Our team was fatigued in 2nd half … We need to get to freaking east coast games ASAp not on friday or saturday ..let’s get the on Thursday or Wed or heck just go their after The game is done
September 17th, 2012 at 11:45 am
I find Seymour’s honesty refreshing actually.
Better than some sport’s cliche or rhetoric.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:45 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
you must be one of those guys that would rather have the qb throw for 371 yards while completing 50% of his passes in a loss
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You just described the typical Raider fan. They want all go routes on 1st down every drive. And if that doesnt result in a TD. Then they want that other magic play that all good OCs just keep in their back pocket and save for only when things get rough. Its a magic play that is so “creative” no defense can stop and no offensive player can screw up.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:46 am
1251.DennisAllensVisor Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:45 am
I find Seymour’s honesty refreshing actually.
Better than some sport’s cliche or rhetoric.
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He’s absolutely right, but he just can’t display that attitude. That’s the “losing is a foregone conclusion” mentality that’s been killing us (among other things) for eyars now.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:46 am
Huebert on blocked # prank call to Reggie “Looks like your building a fuzzy kitten over there! hahhahahaha”
September 17th, 2012 at 11:46 am
1167.raiderinparadise Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:11 am
and the flags … wow … penalties are off the chain again.
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Nah, penalties are the 1 thing that DA actually has corrected. 11 penalties so far, only 72 yards total. That is a 50% reduction for penalties and almost a 70% reduction in penalty yards, but I guess nothing short of 0 penalties is acceptable from day 1 around these parts.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:46 am
Raider Riff Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:34 am
DutchRaider77 Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:29 am
@Raider Riff
Jeff George=Jay Cutler?
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I havent heard that yet. From all accounts, Jay’s players typically like him.
Georges teammates always hated him. Even back in college. The guy was just a grade A prick.
Cutler just seems a lil immature. Im not so quick to throw the guy under the bus yet. Chicago is not a very good org or city to play for. They dont have a good track record with QBs.
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cutler better pull his head out or it will be jc time in chi town
cutler is a locker room cancer and diva very much a carson palmer jr
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000062292/article/jay-cutlers-attitude-criticized-by-exchicago-bear
September 17th, 2012 at 11:47 am
1242.SouthTexasRaider Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:42 am
How in the FAHQ can sorry knapp not know or feel his stupid @ss bullschit scheme isnt working!
cant even practice it right cause you cant cut block your own defense?????
HOW IN THE FAHQ ARE WE SUPPPOSE TO GET BETTER IF YOU CANT EVEN SEE WHATS BROKEN TO FIX IT???!!!!???
this is a sorry offense to watch!
PISSED!
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The dude has no answers. According to the stats I have seen posted in here every time he has been an OC his team has gotten worse each year….he is like Tom Cable….deer in headlights! No answers! Just keep on doing the same schyt and expecting different results.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:47 am
B. Hartline-9rec, 111yds-It’s Brian Hartline, damn it.
Bush-Can’t have a poor tackling day against him, he’s an explosive back that ran for 1,000+ yds, 5 ypc, long 76TD,yds in 2011.
Got to wonder what Tarver was thinking in not adjusting the defense to help out with the coverage. Poor tackling, reminds me that their giving up…just the way I see it.
Can’t believe the “great regression” is occurring again. This love/hate relationship is driving me nut’s, I need some stability. lol
September 17th, 2012 at 11:48 am
DutchRaider77 Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:42 am
I just cant defend our players anymore. Reggies first TD was classic loserville. Mitchell wiffed, then 3 guys got bowled over by a scat back.
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Thought I saw another Mitchell whiff on Reggie Bush…other than that did MM play a good game? Saw some posters were actually calling for him to start?
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I dunno. I gotta watch the game again. I’ll watch it once more regular and twice with the endzone coaches tape and then I will be able to give you more specifics.
Stuff really starts to get evident after the 3rd time of watching a game.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:48 am
Hearing Carson say after the game that we can’t get our O-Line dialed beacause we can’t practice cut blocking “…
Makes me wonder how in the hell we can EVER get right,or even a proper assesment of our talent when we can’t even SIMULATE a real game experience…
At this pace, it will be years before this thing gels.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:49 am
We will play better next week
September 17th, 2012 at 11:49 am
Hmmmmmm…….seems the 49′ers have a pretty good running game under their power blocking scheme.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:49 am
DMAC Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:36 am
WE NEED TO ESTABLISH THE RUN!!!!!!!!!!!!
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cant the stretch lay is the basis for the entire run game, it wont work with our an effective boot leg
dmac and palmer together were touted as the super duo instant offense,
in fact they are oil and water
September 17th, 2012 at 11:50 am
OK Riff…i’ll bite.
How do YOU get the coaches tape?
What about the elusive 22 tapes that shows the whole field of play?
September 17th, 2012 at 11:50 am
Hue and Cable guy are laughing and saying to themselves, “i knew that was gonna happen in that moronic scheme with the players at hand”
September 17th, 2012 at 11:50 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:46 am
1251.DennisAllensVisor Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:45 am
I find Seymour’s honesty refreshing actually.
Better than some sport’s cliche or rhetoric.
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He’s absolutely right, but he just can’t display that attitude. That’s the “losing is a foregone conclusion” mentality that’s been killing us (among other things) for eyars now.
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For sure.
Cant be too damaging at this point, though. LOL.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:50 am
Bcz24 Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:46 am
1167.raiderinparadise Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:11 am
and the flags … wow … penalties are off the chain again.
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Nah, penalties are the 1 thing that DA actually has corrected. 11 penalties so far, only 72 yards total. That is a 50% reduction for penalties and almost a 70% reduction in penalty yards, but I guess nothing short of 0 penalties is acceptable from day 1 around these parts.
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Chalk that up to the replacement refs. Theyre only calling the legitimate ones. The Pete-Rozelle-Specials wont come into play until we look ready to win a game.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:51 am
guest123 Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 10:23 am
Maybe Al was right all along in his micro-control of all things Raiders. He kept everyone on a tight leash to keep them from stepping on themselves. DA is overwhelmed and not ready for this level. I bet Al would have corrected a few things by now and have DA’s ears burning. But Reggie is going to sit back and watch this thing implode. Because patience is all about where its at in the new REGGIME. But we all know that AL would have had none of it. Al hated losing. I don’t see anyone in the new REGGIME that really hates losing. It’s all moneyball managment with an eye 3 years from now.
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And we all see how well that worked out for the past two decades. Two games is not enough to evaluate anything yet.
At least we know who’s accountable now. We know Allen and Knapp are doing exactly what they want to do, with little interference from either Mark Davis or Reggie. They can be judged fairly and square on their merits.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:51 am
they want that other magic play that all good OCs just keep in their back pocket and save for only when things get rough. Its a magic play that is so “creative” no defense can stop and no offensive player can screw up.
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Not asking for magic tricks. But is it too much to ask for more plays involving Marcel Reece split out wide taking advantage of mismatches?
September 17th, 2012 at 11:51 am
We have to beat PITT at home, it would do a # for the fans, the players, everything.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:51 am
RaidersOne Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:49 am
Hmmmmmm…….seems the 49′ers have a pretty good running game under their power blocking scheme.
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And the Texans have a better running game under their ZBS, what’s your point sir?
September 17th, 2012 at 11:52 am
VanHeathen30 Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:48 am
Hearing Carson say after the game that we can’t get our O-Line dialed beacause we can’t practice cut blocking “…
Makes me wonder how in the hell we can EVER get right,or even a proper assesment of our talent when we can’t even SIMULATE a real game experience…
At this pace, it will be years before this thing gels.
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Let’s just hope we are improved in that area next week and some how win the game
September 17th, 2012 at 11:52 am
raiderinparadise Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:51 am
We have to beat PITT at home, it would do a # for the fans, the players, everything.
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If we cant cover Brian Hartline & Devone Bess, I have nothing inside of me that thinks we have a chance against Antonio Brown & Mike Wallace.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:52 am
VanHeathen30 Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:50 am
OK Riff…i’ll bite.
How do YOU get the coaches tape?
What about the elusive 22 tapes that shows the whole field of play?
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Its available on NFL.com if you buy the package. Gives you every play with the endzone cam.
I sit and watch every play at least twice. So if you count that, I probably watch the game 6 times in total.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:52 am
Raider Riff Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:34 am
DutchRaider77 Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:29 am
@Raider Riff
Jeff George=Jay Cutler?
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I havent heard that yet. From all accounts, Jay’s players typically like him.
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Obviously you aren’t as well informed as you think you are.
Bears fear a potential Cutler mutiny
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/14/bears-fear-a-potential-cutler-mutiny/
September 17th, 2012 at 11:52 am
Oh and Slowlando McLazy made an appearance again yesterday….missed tackles and jogging behind plays while his teammates sprinted after the ball.
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Obviously due to not drinking enough water.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:53 am
Raiderinparadise Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:46 am
Huebert on blocked # prank call to Reggie “Looks like your building a fuzzy kitten over there! hahhahahaha”
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Given that Hue’s team lost by more points in Miami last year, he wouldn’t exactly be in a position to say ANYTHING, thankyouverymuch.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:53 am
“Vic Tafur @VicTafur
Richard Seymour asked what he might say to fans, to give them hope … “Not a whole lot, based on that performance,” Seymour said, glumly.”
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WTF is he suppose to say? After a game like that when the whole team looked horrible WTF do you want to hear as a fan to give us hope? An excuse? Im not sure what response would of made you feel better about this team. He spoke the truth, nothing to give us false hope after that performance.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:54 am
The ZBS is prob the worst scheme agaist PITT’s D lol
I am a fan, I am disgusted, but I haven;t tapped-out ….
I know if we click more in the run game, and if Denarius Moore gets more snaps this week and Myers keeps it up I think we can beat PITT.
I honestly think MIA o-line is better than PITTS
September 17th, 2012 at 11:54 am
Who cares about the Bears and their problems? Don’t we have enough to worry about with the Raiders?
September 17th, 2012 at 11:55 am
VanHeathen30 Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:48 am
Hearing Carson say after the game that we can’t get our O-Line dialed beacause we can’t practice cut blocking “…
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PALMER STOP THE EXCUSES ALREADY!!!!!
Just say we sucked and we have to improve, damn can this dude ever take responsibility?
Palmer has been a severe leadership downgrade
September 17th, 2012 at 11:55 am
Guest123 Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:51 am
they want that other magic play that all good OCs just keep in their back pocket and save for only when things get rough. Its a magic play that is so “creative” no defense can stop and no offensive player can screw up.
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Not asking for magic tricks. But is it too much to ask for more plays involving Marcel Reece split out wide taking advantage of mismatches?
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They have em in there. No special packages thanks to Reece’s stupid self induced hold out, but if you want him in the passng game, go rewatch the last two games. Hes there.
He draws attention too. Which is why you will often you will see Palmer have to go away from him. But since the play isnt designed for them, the other WRs are usually running sloppy routes.
Re-watch the game with some objectivity. It does wonders.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:55 am
Raider Riff Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 8:36 am
Marks Hair Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 8:33 am
Its ok riff.. your cant learn what you havent done yourself.. its common among jocks..(dumb) but try to understand that some of us can learn through observation…. we knew this wouldnt work before it began…
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Youre trying to observe a scheme and language that you have no clue how to speak.
You dont need to be able to run a 4.3 to know that a receiver is running a lazy route and dropping balls.
Stick to evaluating what you can legitimately evaluate. Otherwise, send your credentials into Reggie. If you know what youre talking about, he’ll hire you.
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This is not Rocket science. Its quite obvious this scheme doesn’t work for our O. You don’t go from an explosive O with Dmac and DHB having career years to the current futile O we have now and in this game their are no excuses like people had for the SD game “oh this guy did this this guy did that oh the ST” NO THIS SCHEME DOESN’T WORK FOR US PERIOD. And with the way we couldn’t cover the pass to ONE SIDE all day long to some scrub WR Hartline makes me think Tarver is not that great either.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:56 am
Both systems (Blocking) have been successful but it depends on having the right personnel to execute. Forcing a system upon players that have proven to be successful in another, after going through a coaching carrousel is dumb.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:56 am
There’s no way we’re beating Pittsburgh. None. Zero. Zip. Nada. Well, okay, like I said earlier, maybe a 1 in 100 chance on the “any given Sunday/that’s why they play the game” theory.
Even if the Raiders offense suddenly gels, Wallace, Brown and Sanders will tear the depleted secondary to pieces.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:56 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:52 am
raiderinparadise Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:51 am
We have to beat PITT at home, it would do a # for the fans, the players, everything.
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If we cant cover Brian Hartline & Devone Bess, I have nothing inside of me that thinks we have a chance against Antonio Brown & Mike Wallace.
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If P Lee played 20 yards off of Hartlin3, look for him to be 40 yards off the receiver next week like we’re going to defend a hail Mary or something
September 17th, 2012 at 11:56 am
Given that Hue’s team lost by more points in Miami last year, he wouldn’t exactly be in a position to say ANYTHING, thankyouverymuch.
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Yeah… by 1 point more.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:56 am
1278.realtruraider Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:53 am
“Vic Tafur @VicTafur
Richard Seymour asked what he might say to fans, to give them hope … “Not a whole lot, based on that performance,” Seymour said, glumly.”
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WTF is he suppose to say? After a game like that when the whole team looked horrible WTF do you want to hear as a fan to give us hope? An excuse? Im not sure what response would of made you feel better about this team. He spoke the truth, nothing to give us false hope after that performance.
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I agree, I would rather hear the truth than be shoveled a load of manure (Kirk Morrison), or see players place blame elsewhere (J. Russell).
September 17th, 2012 at 11:57 am
Its available on NFL.com if you buy the package. Gives you every play with the endzone cam.
I sit and watch every play at least twice. So if you count that, I probably watch the game 6 times in total.
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Yes its good stuff, but if you don’t know the plays being ran you can’t know if players are running wrong routes etc. like you claim on here
September 17th, 2012 at 11:57 am
September 17th, 2012 at 11:55 am
Raider Riff Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 8:36 am
Marks Hair Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 8:33 am
Its ok riff.. your cant learn what you havent done yourself.. its common among jocks..(dumb) but try to understand that some of us can learn through observation…. we knew this wouldnt work before it began…
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Youre trying to observe a scheme and language that you have no clue how to speak.
You dont need to be able to run a 4.3 to know that a receiver is running a lazy route and dropping balls.
Stick to evaluating what you can legitimately evaluate. Otherwise, send your credentials into Reggie. If you know what youre talking about, he’ll hire you.
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This is not Rocket science. Its quite obvious this scheme doesn’t work for our O. You don’t go from an explosive O with Dmac and DHB having career years to the current futile O we have now and in this game their are no excuses like people had for the SD game “oh this guy did this this guy did that oh the ST” NO THIS SCHEME DOESN’T WORK FOR US PERIOD. And with the way we couldn’t cover the pass to ONE SIDE all day long to some scrub WR Hartline makes me think Tarver is not that great either.
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Yeah, we were so explosive. A WR that finally gets 900 yds is really something to be excited about. Glad to see you have the bar set so low. Your kids must really excel with their 2.0 GPAs in school.
We were only explosive last year when we made plays. We were throwing away games when DHB and DMC were fumbling at critical junctures.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:58 am
Riff:
thanks for the info, going to look into hooking that up. Be nice to be able to see the whole field of play.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:58 am
Realtruraider Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:57 am
Its available on NFL.com if you buy the package. Gives you every play with the endzone cam.
I sit and watch every play at least twice. So if you count that, I probably watch the game 6 times in total.
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Yes its good stuff, but if you don’t know the plays being ran you can’t know if players are running wrong routes etc. like you claim on here
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When you see Palmer laying into a receiver after the play, you know he ran the wrong route.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:58 am
“THERE IS NO TOMORROW!”— Apollo Creed
September 17th, 2012 at 11:58 am
POST-1280,EXACTLY..
September 17th, 2012 at 11:58 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:51 am
RaidersOne Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:49 am
Hmmmmmm…….seems the 49′ers have a pretty good running game under their power blocking scheme.
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And the Texans have a better running game under their ZBS, what’s your point sir?
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My point is, use whatever works. Raiders should have backed off the ZBS after the first loss and returned to what scheme works best for us.
You don’t need to be an offensive genius to figure that one out.
September 17th, 2012 at 11:59 am
I agree, I would rather hear the truth than be shoveled a load of manure (Kirk Morrison),
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Give me the load of manure. “We’re gonna get this thing worked out, blah blah blah”
Saying that publicly tells me he’s quit.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
Even though our chances look bleak next week ..I’m still going to give DA and company benefit of the doubt ..I hope they can get this team to play really well
September 17th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
So its only happened one time, ok
September 17th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
Look at the bright side; at least Condo showed up and snapped well!
September 17th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
Pat Lee & Joselio Hanson are slot CBs.
Asking them to play outside for long periods is unfair.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
Pretty Rick Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 7:35 am
I think the real issue is we have an O-line that was designed to power man block, not zone block (with the exception of Brisel) and these guys are simply out of their element, kinda like putting 4-3 Lbs in a 3-4 scheme.
I don’t have a problem with the west coast offensive scheme, what I DO have a problem with is the blocking scheme (zbs) and it appears that people are confusing the blocking scheme as the overall offensive philosophy. W
e ran a West coast O under Gruden but I don’t recall him using a ZBS, I could be wrong but I don’t recall it. A lot of these dink donk passes are a result of CP3 having to get rid of the ball urgently which also explains some (not all) of the throws into double and triple coverage.
NEWS FLASH; Knapp was NOT the OC in Houston, he was the Qb coach, so the Texans offensive success came from Kubiak,,,please understand that.
Knapp has been pretty much unsuccessful as an OC everywhere he’s been, (T.O.can tell you that) so for those few who are actually defending him,, that’s your right to do so but slow down on the elementary insults on those who are convinced that Knapp was a repeated mistake.
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Pretty Rick-
Your above post is far too intelligent and logical for several of the Knapp supporting clowns on this blog. I applaud your efforts, but some people cannot comprehend simple things like this.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
Cut Lee, Francise and Guess.
Sign Chris Carr, Syd’Quan Thompson and promote Chekwa.
Corner depth the next two weeks:
Spencer
Carr
Hanson
Chekwa
Thompson
Adams
September 17th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Realtruraider Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
So its only happened one time, ok
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It cost us a TD against San Diego. And had it worked, they would have had to finally respect our passing game.
It was a big deal.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Dakota Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
Look at the bright side; at least Condo showed up and snapped well!
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Actually, he didn’t snap that well. Lechler had to jump up to grab a couple of ‘em.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Our team is buying into Whatever DA is selling them ..penalties are down … Palmers ints are down … We didn’t see any fumbles or any reverse miscues … With each ad every day , we’re going to become really good
September 17th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
I wouldn’t be surprised if the Raiders end up beating either the Steelers or Bronc-hoes. We always go through these odd spells where we can lose to a shet tee team and beat a good one. lol
September 17th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
1304.RaiderDuck Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Dakota Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
Look at the bright side; at least Condo showed up and snapped well!
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Actually, he didn’t snap that well. Lechler had to jump up to grab a couple of ‘em.
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Well fine, then at least we know Lechler has been working on his vert! Bright side baby!
September 17th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
raiderinparadise Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:54 am
The ZBS is prob the worst scheme agaist PITT’s D lol
I am a fan, I am disgusted, but I haven;t tapped-out ….
I know if we click more in the run game, and if Denarius Moore gets more snaps this week and Myers keeps it up I think we can beat PITT.
I honestly think MIA o-line is better than PITTS
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The optimism is great and all but were not beating pitt don’t set yourself up for more disappointment. If we can’t cover Hartline we sure as hell can’t cover Wallace Sanders and brown and not to mention their D.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
Richard Seymour asked what he might say to fans, to give them hope … “I’m gonna break my foot off on Krapp’s ass and then retire,” Seymour said, glumly.”
September 17th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
RaidersOne Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:58 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:51 am
RaidersOne Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:49 am
Hmmmmmm…….seems the 49′ers have a pretty good running game under their power blocking scheme.
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And the Texans have a better running game under their ZBS, what’s your point sir?
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My point is, use whatever works. Raiders should have backed off the ZBS after the first loss and returned to what scheme works best for us.
You don’t need to be an offensive genius to figure that one out.
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You also don’t have to be a genius to understand how hard and next to impossible that is to scrap something that you built your whole offense on all off-season…in the middle of a season.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
Our Run D might have looked really bad yesterday but I think it had more to do with fatigue and other factors ..I think we have really turned the corner .. Our run D isn’t as bad ..week 1 wasn’t fluke … Just need to get better at pass rush and pass D and the O line play … DA said it right .. They need to just keep getting better with each and everyday
September 17th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Our team is buying into Whatever DA is selling them ..penalties are down … Palmers ints are down … We didn’t see any fumbles or any reverse miscues … With each ad every day , we’re going to become really good
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Theyre buying in. They just arent delivering.
As for the no penalties, chalk that up to the replacement refs. Theyre only calling the legitimate ones. The Pete-Rozelle-Specials wont come into play until we look ready to win a game.
I dont think our penalty issue is solved at all.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
Chris Carr better be on a plane to Oakland for a workout.
I know he is working out for SD.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
The Pete-Rozelle-Specials wont come into play until we look ready to win a game.
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hahahahahahahahaha…..Agreed.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
If Lee and Hanson are the starting corners against Pitt I have a hard time seeing us stopping them from scoring over 14 points, thats what we will have to hold them to if we want a win. This offense is stuck in Knapp time and it doesn’t look like it will wake up anytime soon, let alone against a defense like Pitt. I would like to see the no huddle ran alot, give CP the chance to call his own plays, thats our only hope folks
September 17th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
RaidersOne Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:58 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:51 am
RaidersOne Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:49 am
Hmmmmmm…….seems the 49′ers have a pretty good running game under their power blocking scheme.
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And the Texans have a better running game under their ZBS, what’s your point sir?
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My point is, use whatever works. Raiders should have backed off the ZBS after the first loss and returned to what scheme works best for us.
You don’t need to be an offensive genius to figure that one out.
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You also don’t have to be a genius to understand how hard and next to impossible that is to scrap something that you built your whole offense on all off-season…in the middle of a season.
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Exactly , we can fire him and promote some one else to call plays but no way in hell we can freaking change schemes while in the season
September 17th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
You also don’t have to be a genius to understand how hard and next to impossible that is to scrap something that you built your whole offense on all off-season…in the middle of a season.
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I think guys beleive we can flip the swithc on this during the bye, and zap, like wow…
we have implemented a whole new schematic.
considering it took, mini camp, OTA’s, training camp, and presea.
Like it or not we are going to ride with KNAPP.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
I wouldn’t have a problem with Palmer throwing Knapp under the bus…I would!
September 17th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
S’up Nation, long time reader(both artciles and comments)First time poster, however I felt I must join as I’m in desperate need of a support group. The 1st 2 weeks of the season have been impossible to swallow, whcih I know countless fans can attest. So I just wanted to spend my 2 cents!
-First of all, I completely agree that the OC duties should be relinquished yesterday, with Saunders taking over. But this should happen this week, otherwise, not at all. It just makes no sense to have wasted all training camp and preseason installing the scheme to abandon it at this point. I will also say the petition here to fire Knapp, while is the right idea, lets be real, it is completley laughable. There are more staff members pushing papers in the orginization then names on your petition.
-The “Mad Chemist” Tarver- While I was sipping the Kool-aid coming into the seasonon with this guy, and even still a bit after week 1. The Fish game, has me truly wondering now. Brian Hartline, put up carrer numbers running one route in the route tree. The apperently unstoppable Hitch route. If anyone wants to adopt a nickname based on their education. This basic football play should have been shutdown, if not after the first completion, surely by the second. Completely unacceptable. I predict Miami will try it again next week, only to have either Revis or Cromartie take on to the house. Which…
-Cornerplay- Atrocious. I had expected as much, but even worse is Reggie bringing in “his guys” to develop here, and them seriously looking as if they don’t belong in the league. Again, 9 exact routes for career numbers by that bum Hartline. His damn smile during the game nearly forced me to kill myself. At this point anyone could be developed at a similar rate, and yes. This includes Al’s picks of Chekwa and DVD who I have seen perform better. Hell, Chris Johnson has played better. I wouldn’t mind while the Raiders are trolling the waiver wire this week to see Cliff Harris added. Atleast he has big play potential hidden in there somewhere, and also has explosive kick return skills in there too hidden away. If we’re going to be expirimenting at the position, pick this guy up and see if you can get him to play.
-Defense in general lacks Raider mystique, fire, and bully attitude. I had seen it the first 2 series of the Chargers game, and has gone MIA since.
-CP3 not the problem! period.
-DMAC, is obviously playing in a manner that is designed to keep him healthy. Yesterday he had a play down the sideline in which at the end, he ran out of bounds. Dmac last year would have cut it back inside and at the least put his hat on a defender. Hard to decide on his approach, I loved his violent runs last year, but understand he needs to be on the field. He will go stronger I can only believe, if he stays healthy.
-Marcel Reese, You guys remember him? A “mismatch nightmare on the field” I agree!! So WTF?
So much more to say, but will have to slowly digest it before I can put it into words, for now I look forward to the typical Tuesday coaching staff lip service. But my ultimate bottom line, two years of 8-8 and pretty decent offense has digressed to these opening two weeks. There was no need to label this a rebuilding year until the new management, and coaching staff has force fed it upon us. SMH!
September 17th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
It’s interesting how teams with arguably equal or less talent have a new coaching staff and roster changes yet they have managed to win a game.
Tampa, Miami, Indy, stl. These teams sucked BIG time last year and they overhauled the staff and this year they have been competitive both games and actually won a game.
I never liked knapp and I don’t think I like Allen from what I’ve seen so far. He deserves the year to prove he can improve this team and his own coaching but I really don’t like his decision’s to go FG or not go for it on 4th down a couple times(especially game one with our punting troubles). He seems passive, much like a Raheem Morris coach.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
Thec Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
You also don’t have to be a genius to understand how hard and next to impossible that is to scrap something that you built your whole offense on all off-season…in the middle of a season.
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I think guys beleive we can flip the swithc on this during the bye, and zap, like wow…
we have implemented a whole new schematic.
considering it took, mini camp, OTA’s, training camp, and presea.
Like it or not we are going to ride with KNAPP.
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Exactly.
Have better odds & more realistic to just hope the execution improves.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
Knapp is here to rebuild the Raiders’ offense. This rebuild may or may not involve some of the players that were effective in recent years. If Reggie McKenzie wanted to continue football operations as they were before he took over, he probably would have kept Hue Jackson. It’s obvious to me that he wants the primary focus on offense to be ball control and consistency.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
Raider Riff Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Our team is buying into Whatever DA is selling them ..penalties are down … Palmers ints are down … We didn’t see any fumbles or any reverse miscues … With each ad every day , we’re going to become really good
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Theyre buying in. They just arent delivering.
As for the no penalties, chalk that up to the replacement refs. Theyre only calling the legitimate ones. The Pete-Rozelle-Specials wont come into play until we look ready to win a game.
I dont think our penalty issue is solved at all.
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We didnt see usual offside ,and false start penalties .,, pI and holding stuffs goin to happen here and there but you can’t shoot ur self in the foot before the snap … So we are def improved in that area
September 17th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
..I think we have really turned the corner ..
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i agree we have turned the corner at loser ville, and major trade bust blvd
we were the worst team in football yesterday
September 17th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
Have better odds & more realistic to just hope the execution improves.
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Oline needs to start executing…Culprit no 1.
KNAPP needs to incorporate ALL weopons in the schematic.
NO REASON WHY REECE IS NOT A PROMINATE FEATURE.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
Like it or not we are going to ride with KNAPP.
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Now that’s a cheerful thought.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
Theyre buying in. They just arent delivering.
As for the no penalties, chalk that up to the replacement refs. Theyre only calling the legitimate ones. The Pete-Rozelle-Specials wont come into play until we look ready to win a game.
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Thats a crap excuse. You can’t find 5 penalties on film last year that weren’t legitimate. Ticky-tacky maybe, might other teams get away with it? Maybe. But you can’t say they aren’t legitimate.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
we were the worst team in football yesterday
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Can’t argue with that point.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
We need any To sign any cornerback available atleast it will lit a little bit of fire Under our players to perform better … Just keep signing baby
September 17th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
Anyone cut or fired yet?
September 17th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
I have to be honest, I’m really tired of all the talk about McFadden being “one of the most explosive players in the league”, only for the first defender near him to take him down. He’s supposed to be this Marshall Faulk type of player for us. He doesn’t make any juke moves. He just goes down on first contact.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
Thec,
I think guys beleive we can flip the swithc on this during the bye, and zap, like wow…
we have implemented a whole new schematic.
considering it took, mini camp, OTA’s, training camp, and presea.
Like it or not we are going to ride with KNAPP.
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With all due respect, I said “back off” the ZBS, not completely chuck it. As I understand it almost all teams use the ZBS or a combination of it with power blocking.
Almost all the offense knows and is adept at the power blocking scheme. Return to it, mainly implemented by the ZBS. It is not an impossible task. The only reason it’s impossible is because the staff are too stubborn to admit they made an error bringing on the ZBS exclusively.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
I think gonna download that game where we hung 59 points on Denver. I need to see some raider domination with players from this era.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
JERRY MCDONALD……..
PLEASE ANSWER FOR YOURT INSTANT UPGRADE THEORY!!!!
PLEASE ANSWER FOR YOUR SUPER DUO ARTICLE!!!!!!!
THE TRADE IS A FLOP, AND PALMER HAS NOT DELIVERED WHAT YOU AND 90% OF THIS BOARD CLAIMED HE WOULD!!!!!
September 17th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
When your down on the mat and you cant fight anymore your gonna here a little whisper in your ear “GET UUUPP YOU SON OF A BYYYYTCH, CUZ RAIDER NATION LOVES YA!!!”
September 17th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
go for it on 4th down a couple times(especially game one with our punting troubles). He seems passive, much like a Raheem Morris coach.
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DA said himself that they had no plans to punt again after goethel rolled the first 1 to Lechler, but you don’t “go for it” on 4th and 21 from your own 30. That’s just stupid football.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
..I think we have really turned the corner ..
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i agree we have turned the corner at loser ville, and major trade bust blvd
we were the worst team in football yesterday
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I’m talking about some aspects of the game we have turned the corner , we’re not turning the ball over … We are not committing the stupid penalties , I think as the season goes along we will see them improve in all the other areas as well
September 17th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
How anyone can watch the game and not see that the root of our problems is the run blocking.. amazing.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
Palmer is not the major issue here. So WTF are you screaming about anyway?
September 17th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
I have to be honest, I’m really tired of all the talk about McFadden being “one of the most explosive players in the league”, only for the first defender near him to take him down. He’s supposed to be this Marshall Faulk type of player for us. He doesn’t make any juke moves. He just goes down on first contact.
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I said it for yrs: DMAC got lucky with the jets and broncos when they were bottom feeds and racked up tremendous yardage. Other than those two games he’s done little. That doesn’t mean he’s not an excellent back, it just means he is not great, and certainly not one of the best in the league.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
Like it or not we are going to ride with KNAPP.
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Now that’s a cheerful thought.
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I know that sucks however, doubt we can change horses in the middle of the stream.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
bottom feeders*
September 17th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
BTw, the offense is trying to go deep. That’s why Palmer keeps checking down. There’s nobody open. Defenses are still expecting the Raiders’ long ball. Knapp is actually trying to go deep more than he should. As always, both defenses we’ve faced this year are giving us the short routes. I only wish Knapp was running a WCO. It seems right now he’s trying to appease the Davis admirers in upstairs and in the stands by trying to find something downfield. Palmer evidently refuses to be a martyr for this philosophy by throwing pics so he checks down. That’s what’s happening on offense.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:25 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
How anyone can watch the game and not see that the root of our problems is the run blocking.. amazing.
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Truth. It certainly isn’t Carson Palmer like some guys in here would have you believe.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:25 pm
1321.DennisAllensVisor Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
Thec Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
You also don’t have to be a genius to understand how hard and next to impossible that is to scrap something that you built your whole offense on all off-season…in the middle of a season.
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I think guys beleive we can flip the swithc on this during the bye, and zap, like wow…
we have implemented a whole new schematic.
considering it took, mini camp, OTA’s, training camp, and presea.
Like it or not we are going to ride with KNAPP.
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Exactly.
Have better odds & more realistic to just hope the execution improves.
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I think they could change back in a hurry. The only o-lineman who wasn’t on the team last season was Briseil or whatever the fk his name is. They ran it all of the past two seasons, so in theory they should be able to switch back with no problem.
I do not think changing the running plays would be very difficult.
That being said, Dennis Allen and Knapp have chosen to hang themselves.
I wanted a GM and HC who were all on the same page and who all ran one system and got the right players to fit that system….so I guess I got what I asked for….Reggie just didn’t have enough ammo to get all the players the coach needs….not that Knapp could do anything with them anyhow….
Hiring Knapp has doomed Allen and may very well doom Reggie too. SMH….you are only as strong as your weakest link right?
September 17th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
JERRY MCDONALD……..
PLEASE ANSWER FOR YOURT INSTANT UPGRADE THEORY!!!!
PLEASE ANSWER FOR YOUR SUPER DUO ARTICLE!!!!!!!
THE TRADE IS A FLOP, AND PALMER HAS NOT DELIVERED WHAT YOU AND 90% OF THIS BOARD CLAIMED HE WOULD!!!!!
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Oh please you’re back again with Palmer sh1t ..I agree he’s not totally lighting the D on fire and also missing some open targets and choosing not to go to the right receiver some other times ..but he’s not turning the ball over and he’s doing a good enough job with no pass protection and The running game only averaging 1.5 yards per carry
September 17th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
How anyone can watch the game and not see that the root of our problems is the run blocking.. amazing.
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The one facet of the game I thought we’d excel at with a healthy DMAC. Can’t sell a play action pass if you can’t run the ball.
If it’s not one thing, it’s another and until we clean up all three phases of the game, we’ll play the way we do and end up with a top 10 draft pick.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
at least the chiefs vs raiders gamnes will be an even match lmao
September 17th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
Sullivan44, has anyone told you that you have one of brightest football minds on this blog?
September 17th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
Dakota,
You think Mark Davis is only going to give Reggie one year?
September 17th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
Raider Riff Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 11:57 am
September 17th, 2012 at 11:55 am
Raider Riff Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 8:36 am
Marks Hair Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 8:33 am
Its ok riff.. your cant learn what you havent done yourself.. its common among jocks..(dumb) but try to understand that some of us can learn through observation…. we knew this wouldnt work before it began…
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Youre trying to observe a scheme and language that you have no clue how to speak.
You dont need to be able to run a 4.3 to know that a receiver is running a lazy route and dropping balls.
Stick to evaluating what you can legitimately evaluate. Otherwise, send your credentials into Reggie. If you know what youre talking about, he’ll hire you.
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This is not Rocket science. Its quite obvious this scheme doesn’t work for our O. You don’t go from an explosive O with Dmac and DHB having career years to the current futile O we have now and in this game their are no excuses like people had for the SD game “oh this guy did this this guy did that oh the ST” NO THIS SCHEME DOESN’T WORK FOR US PERIOD. And with the way we couldn’t cover the pass to ONE SIDE all day long to some scrub WR Hartline makes me think Tarver is not that great either.
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Yeah, we were so explosive. A WR that finally gets 900 yds is really something to be excited about. Glad to see you have the bar set so low. Your kids must really excel with their 2.0 GPAs in school.
We were only explosive last year when we made plays. We were throwing away games when DHB and DMC were fumbling at critical junctures
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I see your sports acumen is pretty low Riff DHB had a career year and YES 900 yards is good for him but you are so slow you didn’t realize I sais Explosive O meaning TEAM not one person. You fail to realize everything we want now we had last year Reece was involved Dwow was playing great when he wasn’t hurt. But once again you are so slow riff that you say the O threw away games when in fact the D gave away games remeber riff? The Den game the Det game the Buff game and the finale SD game. We could easily been 12-4 if not for the D not the O get a clue riff and step your sports knowledge up and stop trying to defend this crap scheme it makes you look like you don’t knw shcit or maybe you don’t.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
Wow A’s Playoff Tickets are already selling out just picked up 4 in section 125
September 17th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
DA said himself that they had no plans to punt again after goethel rolled the first 1 to Lechler, but you don’t “go for it” on 4th and 21 from your own 30. That’s just stupid football.
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Obviously. I thought we were near midfield at one point, trailing and we attempted a punt. Either way, his decision to kick a FG before both first halves were weak. Both 2nd halves have produced worse O & D and the opposition has been much better.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
Suppose we’ll be blacked out this week.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
We need better play from our O line and better execution from players and better play calls at the right times from coaches…
September 17th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
RaidersOne Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
I have to be honest, I’m really tired of all the talk about McFadden being “one of the most explosive players in the league”, only for the first defender near him to take him down. He’s supposed to be this Marshall Faulk type of player for us. He doesn’t make any juke moves. He just goes down on first contact.
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I said it for yrs: DMAC got lucky with the jets and broncos when they were bottom feeds and racked up tremendous yardage. Other than those two games he’s done little. That doesn’t mean he’s not an excellent back, it just means he is not great, and certainly not one of the best in the league.
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Josh Dubow@JoshDubowAP
1 of every 15 runs for McFadden under HueJax went for 20+ yards. One of every 49 his other three seasons
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Now thats pretty damn explosive, when he is in the right system he is by far the most explosive player in the league PERIOD
September 17th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
“You can’t put Saunders in. It takes months to install an offense. Mid-season is too late
At best you could have him call the plays or maybe DeFillipo.
DA is 100% dedicated to Knapp…they will build the offense (as another poster said) around the O.C and not around DMAC.
It is what it is”
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So using your logic…
If we stop using a system that doesn’t work for our players, including our star players(like Mcfadden who have been picked BY HIS PEERS, as one of the top 100 players in the entire league), we might lose.
Um too late for that, we are losing anyway and the team is already mentally checking out and quitting on the field.
Your argument makes very little sense.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
Let’s Just say We need better execution from our team this week
September 17th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
Our line does suck, too. That’s why I think Mark is going to give this system at least a couple of years, if not 3 or more. Remember that McKenzie was recommended by Ron Wolf. Mark grew up watching Ron and his dad build champions. And Reggie McKenzie is the guy that Ron blessed.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
I believe this game has already made the 85% rule, but more than likely due to Steeler fans
September 17th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
I agree with Mistic’s critique of Carson Palmer.
CP is supposed to be able to carry the team. Eli Manning did this yesterday…team down and he figures it out and hangs 40….even though Bradshaw goes out.
Rookie QBs, who also have had to learn new systems, scoring points and in RGIII, Wilson and Luck..a bunch of points.
CP can’t even sustain a doggone drive
September 17th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
The stretch play that the Houston offense is built off isnt a possibility for Knapp to call right now with the way our OLINE are executing.
That’s huge.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
And when the defense loads the box 8-9 deep and sellls out to stop the run and you start missing open receivers and can’t win 1-1 match ups.
You’ve got junk!
September 17th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
Mentally checking out and quitting in the field after 2 weeks ? Lmao where you guys come up with this kinda chit from?
September 17th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
I know more STeler fans attending the game then I do Raider Fans thats pretty sad
September 17th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
If CP weren’t getting $12MM AND the team didn’t lose a 1st and 2nd….then maybe a different tune.
I am not a fan of the WCO at all….but its not so bad that the team can’t sustain a goshdarn drive.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
*Steeler
September 17th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
JERRY MCDONALD……..
PLEASE ANSWER FOR YOURT INSTANT UPGRADE THEORY!!!!
PLEASE ANSWER FOR YOUR SUPER DUO ARTICLE!!!!!!!
THE TRADE IS A FLOP, AND PALMER HAS NOT DELIVERED WHAT YOU AND 90% OF THIS BOARD CLAIMED HE WOULD!!!!!
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Oh please you’re back again with Palmer sh1t ..I agree he’s not totally lighting the D on fire and also missing some open targets and choosing not to go to the right receiver some other times ..but he’s not turning the ball over and he’s doing a good enough job with no pass protection and The running game only averaging 1.5 yards per carry
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Ha!
Plamer is terribly inefficient and that is death in the wco.
he has been atrocious on 3rd down (we used to get really good 3rd down play) with a 71 rating and not very good in the second half with a 73 rating.
again these are areas where we excelled last season at 6-2
Are you telling me there is no correlation between carson taking the reigns and our team quickly becoming one of the worst teams in football?
he is 4-7 as a starter here, and we have been the worst team in the nfl while he ahas been at the helm.
What impact has he had on this team that can be measured with wins?????
please spare me
September 17th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
Now in Carson’s defense….he has DHB as a primary receiver. DHB can’t run routes very well, rarely wins 1-1 matchups and is invisible in the red zone
September 17th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
1350.Sullivan44 Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
Dakota,
You think Mark Davis is only going to give Reggie one year?
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No, of course not, but I think that if Reggie allows Allen to keep Knapp around for the next couple of seasons, then the Raiders’ record will dictate that a change needs to be made at the top….I wanted Reggie to allow the HC to pick his guys….I just didn’t think Reggie would allow Allen to make such a major blunder in hiring a proven loser like Knapp. It is like raising a child, sometimes when you see a kid making a big mistake, you need to take them aside and give them some fatherly advice without dictating to them. Reggie needed to somehow prevent the Knapp hiring without offending his new HC.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
On the field^^^^^*****
September 17th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
Gentlemen, in a few years pocket passing quarterbacks are going to be a thing of the past. Look at all of the rookie quarterbacks; RG3, Russell Wilson, Tannehill. These guys can move they are not statues. Defensive linemen are getting bigger and faster. They are much quicker than offensive linemen. Thats the reason quarterbacks are going to need to be more mobile in the future. When the pocket collaspe during thr pre-season against the Detroit Lions, Terelle Pryor took off.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
You guys wanna do what almost every other fan base does when things are going south…BLAME THE QB!
I don’t deny it’s possible that Pryor could give the team a spark but Palmer..while not pefect by any stretch…is on pace for 5,600 yds. passing..has thrown more td’s than int’s, with a porous line and no run support…AND receivers dropping passes that could/should be td’s.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
@eastoaklandraider & SnB offense defense specialteams
DHB > Cruz and Nicks?
At 1-32, what would you rate DHB?
September 17th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
i think everything will work for our O when the lame @ss zone blocking schit is replaced.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
Our defense was stingy until the 3rd quarter, when they were obviously fatigued. If we could just generate a little more offense, we’re a playoff caliber team. Just like that. Our defense just needs a little more rest, and they can keep any game from getting away from us. Coaches aren’t going anywhere. So, practical solutions: Probably too soon to can Palmer. But McFadden? When I think of Goodson’s TD yesterday….
September 17th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
The New Era of Excellence
September 17th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
“The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and getting the same(negative)results…”
-Albert Einstein
So after we have seen that the current scheme under Greg Knapp, is not working, did not work the last time he was here, and did not work for any other team in recent history under Greg Knapp, somehow there are some still demanding that we continue on this path.
So basically, according to Albert Einstein,
Reggie Mckenzie
Dennis Allen
Greg Knapp
Raider Riff
Raider Duck
&
Sullivan 44
ARE ALL INSANE!
Thank you. Please, carry on as you were.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
RaidersOne Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
Thec,
I think guys beleive we can flip the swithc on this during the bye, and zap, like wow…
we have implemented a whole new schematic.
considering it took, mini camp, OTA’s, training camp, and presea.
Like it or not we are going to ride with KNAPP.
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With all due respect, I said “back off” the ZBS, not completely chuck it. As I understand it almost all teams use the ZBS or a combination of it with power blocking.
Almost all the offense knows and is adept at the power blocking scheme. Return to it, mainly implemented by the ZBS. It is not an impossible task. The only reason it’s impossible is because the staff are too stubborn to admit they made an error bringing on the ZBS exclusively.
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Was not point at you with my comment Bruh. the above post is solid, imo….
September 17th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
Zone blocking did not work the first time Greg Knapp was here. Why does he think it’s going to work now. Coaching 101: Identify you players’ strength, then play to there strength. Hue, Knew he had a Ferrari (McFadden) and he knew how to drive it. Greg thinks he driving an 18-wheeler.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
I will say I wish Palmer would show some “in your face” stuff with this team…rally the troops as it were.
You see that kind of stuff with Brees, Brady and other “elite” QB’s.
I’m not saying go Cutler on everybody…Cutler doesn’t “rally the troops” but i’d like to see him start really “leading” this team.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
Dakota,
You think Mark Davis is only going to give Reggie one year?
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Multiply that by four.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
Considering what we’ve seen thus far this season, what do we miss out on if we start Goodson over McFadden? If anything, we only improve.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
Pretty Rick Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 7:35 am
I think the real issue is we have an O-line that was designed to power man block, not zone block (with the exception of Brisel) and these guys are simply out of their element, kinda like putting 4-3 Lbs in a 3-4 scheme.
I don’t have a problem with the west coast offensive scheme, what I DO have a problem with is the blocking scheme (zbs) and it appears that people are confusing the blocking scheme as the overall offensive philosophy.
We ran a West coast O under Gruden but I don’t recall him using a ZBS, I could be wrong but I don’t recall it.
A lot of these dink donk passes are a result of CP3 having to get rid of the ball urgently which also explains some (not all) of the throws into double and triple coverage.
NEWS FLASH; Knapp was NOT the OC in Houston, he was the Qb coach, so the Texans offensive success came from Kubiak,,,please understand that.
Knapp has been pretty much unsuccessful as an OC everywhere he’s been, (T.O.can tell you that) so for those few who are actually defending him,, that’s your right to do so but slow down on the elementary insults on those who are convinced that Knapp was a repeated mistake.
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Best post of the day.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
Saunders should have been on since January, period. This looks like a 4-12 team with a lame ass offense that is boring to watch. In a pass happy league we are running and dinking and dunking wit the worst of them.
I hope I get to see Atlanta beat dingver tonight, that’ll cheer me up.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
DA is just a mirage, in this crazy town called raiders, hes just a ‘guy’ being outcoached each by the likes of Turner & Philbin
September 17th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
1362.DennisAllensVisor Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
The stretch play that the Houston offense is built off isnt a possibility for Knapp to call right now with the way our OLINE are executing.
That’s huge.
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Keep in mind, Knapp had nothing to do with creating Houston’s offense. Usually watching someone else succeed does not mean that you will be able to reproduce it and have success.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
Considering what we’ve seen thus far this season, what do we miss out on if we start Goodson over McFadden? If anything, we only improve.
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The o-line has to open their holes consistently. Having said that, Goodson may be a better ZBS back. ZBS requires the backs to hit the hole WHEN THEY’RE SUPPOSED TO. The few times a decent hole was opened yesterday, DMac didn’t do that.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
Trade Dmac for a couple of draft picks and RB before trade deadline.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
Klas Tjorborn Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
Trade Dmac for a couple of draft picks and RB before trade deadline.
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Maybe to the Packers. 2nd and 3rd rounder and Starks.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
Dakota Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
1362.DennisAllensVisor Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
The stretch play that the Houston offense is built off isnt a possibility for Knapp to call right now with the way our OLINE are executing.
That’s huge.
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Keep in mind, Knapp had nothing to do with creating Houston’s offense. Usually watching someone else succeed does not mean that you will be able to reproduce it and have success.
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Yea, but that has nothing to do with the fact that we are ‘attempting’ to run the Houston offense.
And the stretch is a huge play.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
You guys wanna do what almost every other fan base does when things are going south…BLAME THE QB!
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Typical fan reaction, especially if you don’t know or don’t care to know much about the game. Just blame the QB.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
I was finally glad to see McFadden break out of his slump yesterday. Here I was, thinking he was overrated, wondering why he can’t seem to shake so much as the first defender near him. It was something else to see DMac trotting down that sideline for a score. THAT’S the DMac we’ve expected all along, I thought. Then I realized…it was Mike Goodson.
You tell me.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
Dakota Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
1362.DennisAllensVisor Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
The stretch play that the Houston offense is built off isnt a possibility for Knapp to call right now with the way our OLINE are executing.
That’s huge.
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Keep in mind, Knapp had nothing to do with creating Houston’s offense. Usually watching someone else succeed does not mean that you will be able to reproduce it and have success.
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Just like Reggie in GB
September 17th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
silverbones Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
Zone blocking did not work the first time Greg Knapp was here. Why does he think it’s going to work now. Coaching 101: Identify you players’ strength, then play to there strength. Hue, Knew he had a Ferrari (McFadden) and he knew how to drive it. Greg thinks he driving an 18-wheeler.
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SilverBones-
Please do not attempt to use logic and common sense when posting here. Many posters here in this blog only read and comprehend at a pre-school level.
Unless it has accompanying scratch and sniff pictures, they will not understand simple logic such as this.
I appreciate it though. Just thought I would save you some time.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
The New Era of Excellence looks the same under Knapp/Allen as the bed and breakfast offense.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
Seems like MLLET Mark is trying to rebuild the team here n Oakland, and then once they are ready to compete, he’ll relocate them to LA, or sell them for more $ based on the potential. Of course he’ll spin it that they can’t compete in Oakland do to the poor attendance, which will happen because of the teams struggles and he can go back into obscurity where he doesn’t have to be bothered with this football stuff.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
Duck,
So, Goodson is a better back for Knapp’s system, THE RAIDERS’ current system. Well then…
September 17th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
You guys wanna do what almost every other fan base does when things are going south…BLAME THE QB!
I don’t deny it’s possible that Pryor could give the team a spark but Palmer..while not pefect by any stretch…is on pace for 5,600 yds. passing..has thrown more td’s than int’s, with a porous line and no run support…AND receivers dropping passes that could/should be td’s.
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dont make excuses
when we had a qb that posted lesser stats, but was winning everyone wanted him gone.
Now you have a qb throwing for a million yards and we are losing, but the fans are okay with that?
fanatsy football has killed the idea of having intelligent dialogue about performance of players
September 17th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
silverbones Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
Zone blocking did not work the first time Greg Knapp was here. Why does he think it’s going to work now. Coaching 101: Identify you players’ strength, then play to there strength. Hue, Knew he had a Ferrari (McFadden) and he knew how to drive it. Greg thinks he driving an 18 wheeler.
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Amen!!!!
September 17th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
70.RaiderHopeful18 Says:
September 16th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
Ok, been checking upon this site for about 3 years now and finally had to make an account to respond to the reactions of some fans…
Calling for Knapp to be fired I can understand and even agree with. Our offense has taken a turn for the worst and seems to have lost the capability of the Big Play.
Calling for Palmer to be pulled… ehhh I disagree with. He might not be playing very good, but I don’t think Pryor would be the missing puzzle piece to turn our offense around. At least not yet, he still has a lot to learn.
BUTTT….
Calling for Dennis Allen to be fired right here and now after 2 games, is absolutely rediculous. All Raider fans should realize that STABILITY has been one of the main things this franchise has needed and missed throughout this last decade. Its because we decide to hire a new coach each of the last two years that we have been unable to grow and turn into a winning team. How can you get better when your starting from scratch every year??
Has Dennis Allen been great or even that good so far? Not particularly. Defense seems to be somewhat improved at times maybe. But starting over AGAIN with a new head coach??? That would be inzane. Just would set us back yet again. Dennis Allen needs at least two full years before we can reach a true opinion on his coaching abilities.
Anyways… thats my rant for the day
I agree with mostly all of this post and the firing of Knapp But they both needs to be fired,honetly.
Here why…
Hes too young and McKenzie knows it, he looks like a deer in head lights everytime the camera went to his face. D.Al is not Al.D because you dont start your season knowing you made No major pick ups all off-season, you dont start a PRIMETIME game on MNF with rookie wideouts and you certainly dont lose your snapper and have no plan of anykind. This needs to be a witch hunt RAIDER NATION has put up with losing for too long, we finally have some respectability with Hue Jackson and just like that GONE! Same with Gruden we lose our ticket to respectability everytime…smh It pisses me off that we will be 0-5 soon(thank McKenzie) At the same week last year we was sittin pretty atop of the AL West. Its time to come to gether as fans like no other and get these idiots canned, better yet We want HUE…We WANT HUE… We WANT HUE!!!
September 17th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
Duck,
So, Goodson is a better back for Knapp’s system, THE RAIDERS’ current system. Well then…
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He may be, the same way that Fargas was a better fit last time around.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
I see McFadden getting relegated to second string at some point mid season, possibly traded. Let Goodson break another one like he did yesterday, while McFadden just sits there and continues to just lunge into the first defender that engages him.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
IN ONE OFFSEASON, UNDER GREG KNAPP’S SCHEME, DARREN MCFADDEN HAS GONE FROM BEING THE BEST BACK IN THE LEAGUE TO BEING ARGUABLY THE WORST!!! HE IS AVERAGING LESS THAT 2 YDS A CARRY!!!
We have to send a UNITED message that Dennis Allen and Greg Knapp’s CRONYISM and misplaced EGOTISM, is NOT more valuable than the PASSION, LOVE, and SUPPORT of the RAIDER NATION!!!
F YOUR STUBBORN EGOS, DENNIS ALLEN AND GREG KNAPP…DO WHAT IS BEST FOR OUR PLAYERS AND OUR TEAM!!!
As a result…
J Raider started the OFFICIAL:
“FIRE”, “DEMOTE”, “RELIEVE OF PLAY CALLING DUTIES” GREG KNAPP” PETITION!!!
Whatever language you prefer makes no difference to me!!!
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IT’S TIME TO LEAD A REVOLT AROUND HERE THE LIKES OF WHICH WE HAVEN’T SEEN SINCE PAUL REVERE AND GEORGE WASHINGTON!!!
September 17th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
I was one of the first posters here to identify Knapp as a fluke hire.
Now I will reveal the other fluke hire: Dennis Allen.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
Ryan Grant & Slaton working out in Detroit.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
DA comes off like a mid-range college coach. His accent, the “way” he speaks, his style. Most importantly, the RESULTS.
People rip on Hue and his pedicures but i’ve said before that I don’t care if our HC wears a flowery dress and sports a wierd, zippered up leather mask…as long as he wins games.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
MR
Bring back Klas, you make him seem like he actually knows something about football, unlike yourself and your outrageous takes, All for a response
September 17th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
Okay, there’s one team I can think of that runs a man blocking scheme and is in need of a stud RB….the New York Jets. Right now, Revis is on the shelf but when he gets back healthy, what about this:
Darren McFadden to the Jets for CB Kyle Wilson and a 2nd round pick.
Then sign free agent RBs Ryan Grant and Tim Hightower. Both are obviously unemployed for a reason but both have excelled in the ZBS before and can at least get us through to next year
September 17th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
McFadden seems to have lost his fight. So has Carson. I see both of them gone after this season. Get players that fit the new system we’ll be using for probably the better part of the coming decade.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
Al Saunders if a quality control assistant? offenseive assistant? …. Wheres the accountability from Knapp? He seems to have excuses everytime about the ZBS and the deep ball being gone.
I swear I agree with most of you about everything …. but any Palmer haters … sorry the trade was onvioulsy awful but he is making some great throws out there, not perfect by any means but he is good enough to win games. I like his passing with Brandon Meyers. and Moore.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
If Reggie won’t fire Knapp maybe B can kneecap him.
There’s always hope.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
JERRY MCDONALD……..
PLEASE ANSWER FOR YOURT INSTANT UPGRADE THEORY!!!!
PLEASE ANSWER FOR YOUR SUPER DUO ARTICLE!!!!!!!
THE TRADE IS A FLOP, AND PALMER HAS NOT DELIVERED WHAT YOU AND 90% OF THIS BOARD CLAIMED HE WOULD!!!!!
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Oh please you’re back again with Palmer sh1t ..I agree he’s not totally lighting the D on fire and also missing some open targets and choosing not to go to the right receiver some other times ..but he’s not turning the ball over and he’s doing a good enough job with no pass protection and The running game only averaging 1.5 yards per carry
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Ha!
Plamer is terribly inefficient and that is death in the wco.
he has been atrocious on 3rd down (we used to get really good 3rd down play) with a 71 rating and not very good in the second half with a 73 rating.
again these are areas where we excelled last season at 6-2
Are you telling me there is no correlation between carson taking the reigns and our team quickly becoming one of the worst teams in football?
he is 4-7 as a starter here, and we have been the worst team in the nfl while he ahas been at the helm.
What impact has he had on this team that can be measured with wins?????
please spare me
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Look it took him atleAst 3 weeks to get in synch with system last year and then there were no reason for us to lose some games like that Detroit 1..He did well in SD game in which our D played with no heart and didn’t make them punt even once in the gAme..those are 2 losses that should have wins and that with Decling play of OL and declining play of Michael bush as the season went on …for this year.. Do you honestly think Palmer is getting Any time in the pocket or is getting help from McFadden ? and those 3rd downs were not like 3rd and 2 or 3 yards to go …they were like 3rd and 9 or 10 yards to go ..and imagine trying to get a first down with those situations behind our PassBlocking… But I do blame him for some plays ..he could have done better but also Knapp didn’t do him a favor by calling better plays ..I saw like 6 or 7 times they ran on 2nd and 10 and gained no more than 2 yards … But overall he has not been that bad..he has been getting ball out of his hands pretty quick with pressure coming at his face
September 17th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
realtruraider,
Did I offend you? Has McFadden not flat out sucked next to Mike Goodson this year? I’m sorry you blew 2 bills on your McFadden authentic jersey. But he’s gone.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
silverbones Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
Zone blocking did not work the first time Greg Knapp was here. Why does he think it’s going to work now. Coaching 101: Identify you players’ strength, then play to there strength. Hue, Knew he had a Ferrari (McFadden) and he knew how to drive it. Greg thinks he driving an 18-wheeler.
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SilverBones-
Please do not attempt to use logic and common sense when posting here. Many posters here in this blog only read and comprehend at a pre-school level.
Unless it has accompanying scratch and sniff pictures, they will not understand simple logic such as this.
I appreciate it though. Just thought I would save you some time.
Exactly what I was thinking!
September 17th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
Hue may have been a bullshlt artist but that’s man knows offense.
Why would Allen pick a first time DC for a D that struggled terribly and then a proven slug as his OC? I’m sure are plenty of up & coming QB or OL coaches that he could have hired.
I had plans on going to Baltimore to see them play there, not a chance I’m going now. Fvck knapp.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
Palmer is not the problem. He threw for 373 yards yesterday.
The o-line’s miserable blocking is the problem. Until they start blocking well, Knapp gets an Incomplete.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
All I want out of McFadden is for him to at least play as well as his backup. I don’t expect much else.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
McFadden Average Yards Rushing per Game:
2008: 38 rushing yards per game (13 games played)(zbs)
2009: 30 rushing yards per game (12 games played)(zbs)
2010: 89 rushing yards per game (13 games played)(Hue)
2011: 87 rushing yards per game (7 games played)(Hue)
Thats roughly a 67% drop off!
Hue Jackson said it best, Im going to bring a offense that best suits my players.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
Nothing wrong with the players! Except for the DBs! Everyone else is fine! This is COACHING head to toe!! Tarver is the lone exception, because the DBs suck! All Coaching in ALL aspects!!!
September 17th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
DA, he aint no better that Norv Turner, that should scare everybody.
DA hired Knapp. Case closed.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
Duck, Palmer was 24 for 48 yesterday. Most of the guys he hit were wide open. His 24 INCs were ugly, errant throws for the most part.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
I just want McFadden to play as good as his backup. Is that asking for too much?
September 17th, 2012 at 12:53 pm
SilverNBlackPA Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
Okay, there’s one team I can think of that runs a man blocking scheme and is in need of a stud RB….the New York Jets. Right now, Revis is on the shelf but when he gets back healthy, what about this:
Darren McFadden to the Jets for CB Kyle Wilson and a 2nd round pick.
Then sign free agent RBs Ryan Grant and Tim Hightower. Both are obviously unemployed for a reason but both have excelled in the ZBS before and can at least get us through to next year
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Wouldn’t surprise me at all.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:53 pm
True raider fans here that know football, know that this current product on the field is just refried trash…
September 17th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
Wonder after Palmer lobbed the ball up to DHB in the end zone for a 50-50 which DHB didnt come close to catching if he thought i agree with reggie that Plax couldnt help us
September 17th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
Reggie, why has the offensive transition taken such a toll on Darren McFadden’s production? Is it change by any means necessary, even if it’s at the risk of not giving your best player an opportunity to succeed on the field?
That would be my question to Reggie.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
I have an idea:
Have McFadden and Goodson switch jerseys. Everyone’s happy. We finally have an explosive half back, and fans who shelled a couple hundred on a McFadden jersey don’t have to feel like they wasted their money. You’re welcome!
September 17th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
And all this talk of, ‘it will take time’ and ‘al davis left a mess’, is just pure rethoric BS.
In this current NFL, its a win now league, and teams do it… excet Da Raiderssss
September 17th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
The Raiders do actually have a pretty large fan base that is generally pretty ticked off right now.
Every fan base in the league expresses their displeasure when things go south…but I really don’t think Raider management gives a schytt.
They don’t need to change play calling duties or acquire players just to appease an angry fan base…they need to do it so they can win ball games. That’s all Raider fans (for the most part) care about.
IMO Raider fans are just fine if we win games running Owen Schmitt on every play…as long as we win.
This losing stuff is just so freaking old now…it was old before and it doesn’t make alot of people any happier knowing that MAYBE in 2-3 yrs we MIGHT be contending.
It’s just freaking demoralizing to be out of it when the season started less than 2 weeks ago.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
The problem with the three stooges is the only one with actual experience with doing his job is Knapp. and he has always sucked at it..
September 17th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
You guys wanna do what almost every other fan base does when things are going south…BLAME THE QB!
I don’t deny it’s possible that Pryor could give the team a spark but Palmer..while not pefect by any stretch…is on pace for 5,600 yds. passing..has thrown more td’s than int’s, with a porous line and no run support…AND receivers dropping passes that could/should be td’s.
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dont make excuses
when we had a qb that posted lesser stats, but was winning everyone wanted him gone.
Now you have a qb throwing for a million yards and we are losing, but the fans are okay with that?
fanatsy football has killed the idea of having intelligent dialogue about performance of players
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Thing is our Running games was the best last year and our passing game was below average to average at best …and our O line was really good until the end of the year … This year our Passing is average to above average but we’re really horrible in other phases like Run blocking and Pass blocking and Running, along with horrible play calling … Now you do the math..
September 17th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
realtruraider,
Did I offend you? Has McFadden not flat out sucked next to Mike Goodson this year? I’m sorry you blew 2 bills on your McFadden authentic jersey. But he’s gone.
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No, but your funny. You know damn well Goodson ain’t half the back as DMC. How many yards did Goody have on the ground? he caught a swing pass and ran down the damn sideline man lol. He hasn’t done schit running the ball either, its the damn ZBS and our OLine, they are not getting this system and I blame that on Knapp and the Oline coach, obviously not good teachers
September 17th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
CP is a 50% thrower….garbage time stats.
Why is it crazy to expect the passing game to step up and drive the team.
When many of you were making excuses for the p*ss poor run defenses of the past, you all lectured me about being a passing league….well defenses are slamming our run game…where the hell is the pass game.
Again, the new system and a full offseason is no more than what a rookie had to put up with entering the league…not too mention Pittsburgh getting Haley this year,
WE CANT EVEN SUSTAIN ONE DRIVE MAN!
Hey Reggie, they go 0-4 — Clean house man!
September 17th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
Carl Weathers Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
Why would Allen pick a first time DC for a D that struggled terribly and then a proven slug as his OC? I’m sure are plenty of up & coming QB or OL coaches that he could have hired.
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DA hired Tarver because his first two or three DC choices were barred by other teams from coming here.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:59 pm
DMac is not the type of runner that excels at shaking first contact at the line. His best runs are off tackle and in space which allow his moves to break big runs. Trying to go middle and off the guards is futile. Even yesterday when trying to set the edge the whole line was a clustertruck of penetration to either side. That’s what you get with the ZBS. You can’t set edges when you dont have a designated assignment. This line just isn’t ready yet.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:59 pm
Anyone who believes that a first year coach can’t come in and make a contender needs only look at Jim Harbaugh.
The Niners are winning because even though their record was DEPLORABLE for several years, they identified their strength which was the defense and KEPT WHAT WAS WORKING.
Last year our OFFENSE WAS WORKING, considering all the injuries to key players, QB, RB, WR.
There was no need for Dennis Allen to come in and completely overhaul the offense. All he needed to do was keep adding pieces to it, while spending most of the time addressing our deplorable DEFENSE that kept us out of the playoffs last year.
Again, common sense to everyone except Allen, Knapp, and the scratch and sniff posters here.
September 17th, 2012 at 12:59 pm
1434.SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
Hey Reggie, they go 0-4 — Clean house man!
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Really? Who says that Reggie si going a good job. I can see a mess coming up for the raiders, similar to waht Detroit went trough when Matt Millen was their GM…
Reggie, being a ex LB, like Millen, sucks azzz
September 17th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
JT…
Carl Weathers Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 6:57 am
http://www.raiders.com/media-vault/videos/Raiders-Introduce-Allen-as-Head-Coach/c66de533-4a49-46de-9a82-32c9a28cd1c6
Watching Allen on the sidelines yesterday reminded me of something I noticed at his inaugural presser. I don’t like the calls he makes or doesn’t make. And use that fvckin red flag, wuss.
Go to 26:50 and see Allen show his “tell” like a bad poker player. I mentioned it here at the time but forgot about it over the summer and after LOTS of kool aid.
Allen is a weasel and I don’t like him or his bum buddy krapp.
September 17th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
Press Conference just starting right now…Comcast Sports.
September 17th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
Duck,
So, Goodson is a better back for Knapp’s system, THE RAIDERS’ current system. Well then…
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While there isn’t anything wrong with a ZBS per se, our offensive line has been poor. All that being said, McFadden has played poorly. He played poorly his lst two years in the league as well. The ZBS should be an excellent match for his skills. In fact it is proven around the league that you can plug in ANY back into that system and they flourish. So, why hasn’t McFadden? But then again, McFadden looked pretty poor in the passing game as well. Maybe there is the problem.
September 17th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
Darren McFadden to the Jets for CB Kyle Wilson and a 2nd round pick.
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Somebody is smoking crack. Would NEVER happen.
Understand the urgency. BUT That would occur later in the season, in the “giving-up” phase of the year and if the JETS are contenders.
Until then, if somehow the run game gets rolling with DMAC, this team can take off.
September 17th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
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Wouldn’t surprise me at all.
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Do you think it’s a good idea, SnB? Would you do it?
September 17th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
nyraider Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
The problem with the three stooges is the only one with actual experience with doing his job is Knapp. and he has always sucked at it..
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Another brilliant post!
September 17th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
JT Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 12:59 pm
Reggie, being a ex LB, like Millen, sucks azzz
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You are aware that “former Broadcaster” and “former Director of Football Operations for the Packers” are two radically different job titles, right?
September 17th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
First poster here to tell like it is:
REGIE MAC = MAT MILLEN
there it is ladies and gents…
September 17th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
No excuses. This offense flat out sucks under Knapp. Thats all there is to it. You know the problem. Fix it.
September 17th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
September 17th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
Darren McFadden to the Jets for CB Kyle Wilson and a 2nd round pick.
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Somebody is smoking crack. Would NEVER happen.
Understand the urgency. BUT That would occur later in the season, in the “giving-up” phase of the year and if the JETS are contenders.
Until then, if somehow the run game gets rolling with DMAC, this team can take off.
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What if the team is 0-4 going into the bye? When do you pull the trigger?
September 17th, 2012 at 1:03 pm
JT,
Its all a big roll of the dice. The Raiders could become perpetual rebuilders like St Louis, Arizona and Cleveland.
But riding out and paying big money for older guys that cant/wont step up and make a play makes no sense either
September 17th, 2012 at 1:03 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
Duck,
So, Goodson is a better back for Knapp’s system, THE RAIDERS’ current system. Well then…
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While there isn’t anything wrong with a ZBS per se, our offensive line has been poor. All that being said, McFadden has played poorly. He played poorly his lst two years in the league as well. The ZBS should be an excellent match for his skills. In fact it is proven around the league that you can plug in ANY back into that system and they flourish. So, why hasn’t McFadden? But then again, McFadden looked pretty poor in the passing game as well. Maybe there is the problem.
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So now you stooges latest argument is that Mcfadden sucks???
Forget that he was one of the top 100 players in the league last season.
Where was Knapp ranked on the list of top Coaches?
You guys are sadder than I realized.
September 17th, 2012 at 1:03 pm
Just for fun lets take a look at 2 other wco with qbs learning a new scheme, then compare them to the raiders.
CARSON PALMER: 56/94 59.6CMP % 670 YRD
7.13 YPA 2TD 64 LNG 1INT 84.1 QB RATE
RUSHING: 2 ATT 7 YDS 3.5YPC O FIRST DOWNS
RUSSEL WILSON: 33/54 304 YDS 61.1,CMP% 5.63 YPA 2 TD 27 LNG 1 INT 81.1 QB RATE
RUSHING: 12 ATT 48 YDS 4.0 YPC 14 LNG 4 FIRST DOWNS
RGIII: 39/55 526 YDS 70.9CMP% 9.56 YPA 3 TD 88 LNG 1 INT 111.6 RATING
RUSHING: 20 ATT 124 YDS 6.2 YPC 15 LNG 2 TDS
7 FIRST DOWNS
You dont see a problem here? the redskins have decent play makers but the top weapon garcon did not play yesterday and only played the first half last week.
Wilson has noone outside of rice to throw to and he has been over rated for years.
all three are learning a new offense but wilson and griffin are rookies. They both have a higher completion percentage. they both have picked up first downs with their feet. both have a win under thier belt, and we have a much more talented offense.
Sorry their is no excuse for carson this time. he has had a full off season, he has the entire playbook, he has had dmac he has had moore.
he has not had the wins
September 17th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
You know why u dont here anything today?? Azz chewing! All azz chewing!!
September 17th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
Pretty Rick Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 7:35 am
I think the real issue is we have an O-line that was designed to power man block, not zone block (with the exception of Brisel) and these guys are simply out of their element, kinda like putting 4-3 Lbs in a 3-4 scheme.
I don’t have a problem with the west coast offensive scheme, what I DO have a problem with is the blocking scheme (zbs) and it appears that people are confusing the blocking scheme as the overall offensive philosophy.
We ran a West coast O under Gruden but I don’t recall him using a ZBS, I could be wrong but I don’t recall it.
A lot of these dink donk passes are a result of CP3 having to get rid of the ball urgently which also explains some (not all) of the throws into double and triple coverage.
NEWS FLASH; Knapp was NOT the OC in Houston, he was the Qb coach, so the Texans offensive success came from Kubiak,,,please understand that.
Knapp has been pretty much unsuccessful as an OC everywhere he’s been, (T.O.can tell you that) so for those few who are actually defending him,, that’s your right to do so but slow down on the elementary insults on those who are convinced that Knapp was a repeated mistake.
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this speaks what we ALL think
September 17th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
JT Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 12:59 pm
1434.SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
Hey Reggie, they go 0-4 — Clean house man!
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He already did , 22-25 new players on the roster and most of them suc..in reggie we trust..lol
September 17th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
Fix it
September 17th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
SilverNBlackPA Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
September 17th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
Darren McFadden to the Jets for CB Kyle Wilson and a 2nd round pick.
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Somebody is smoking crack. Would NEVER happen.
Understand the urgency. BUT That would occur later in the season, in the “giving-up” phase of the year and if the JETS are contenders.
Until then, if somehow the run game gets rolling with DMAC, this team can take off.
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What if the team is 0-4 going into the bye? When do you pull the trigger?
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I think Reggie would see that, but the jets or another team would have to show mutual interest.
Face it. McFadden explodes for one game … say this weekend, and the offense gains balance and puts up a W against a good PITT team, then everyting is silenced.
Game results will tell.
September 17th, 2012 at 1:06 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
I see McFadden getting relegated to second string at some point mid season, possibly traded. Let Goodson break another one like he did yesterday, while McFadden just sits there and continues to just lunge into the first defender that engages him.
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Are these repetitive comments about DMC some kind of twisted practical joke. Or is your football IQ really that low?
Goodson takes a screen pass that was well blocked (DHB got away with a hold by the way) to the house by running in a straight line and now he’s better than McFadden?
This is beyond comical.
September 17th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
1439.Carl Weathers Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
JT…
Carl Weathers Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 6:57 am
http://www.raiders.com/media-vault/videos/Raiders-Introduce-Allen-as-Head-Coach/c66de533-4a49-46de-9a82-32c9a28cd1c6
Watching Allen on the sidelines yesterday reminded me of something I noticed at his inaugural presser. I don’t like the calls he makes or doesn’t make. And use that fvckin red flag, wuss.
Go to 26:50 and see Allen show his “tell” like a bad poker player. I mentioned it here at the time but forgot about it over the summer and after LOTS of kool aid.
Allen is a weasel and I don’t like him or his bum buddy krapp.
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First Knapp was the obvious weakest link, now its DA and his being outached by lesser guys like Turner & Philbin…. next up: reggie Mac = matt millen.
September 17th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 1:03 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
Duck,
So, Goodson is a better back for Knapp’s system, THE RAIDERS’ current system. Well then…
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While there isn’t anything wrong with a ZBS per se, our offensive line has been poor. All that being said, McFadden has played poorly. He played poorly his lst two years in the league as well. The ZBS should be an excellent match for his skills. In fact it is proven around the league that you can plug in ANY back into that system and they flourish. So, why hasn’t McFadden? But then again, McFadden looked pretty poor in the passing game as well. Maybe there is the problem.
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So now you stooges latest argument is that Mcfadden sucks???
Forget that he was one of the top 100 players in the league last season.
Where was Knapp ranked on the list of top Coaches?
You guys are sadder than I realized.
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Don’t put words in my mouth. I never said Knapp was anything. There was NOTHING about yesterday that was not horrible. But McFadden has looked awful out there. And not just running the ball.
September 17th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
SilverNBlackPA Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
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Wouldn’t surprise me at all.
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Do you think it’s a good idea, SnB? Would you do it?
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My instinct hates it because DMAC is a special player.
But reality is that the offense will be built around whatever vision Knapp and DA have. If they can’t get DMAC to 100 yards between now and week 5…then better to go get value and fill some other gaps.
By the time this Raider outfit gets its shhhh together, DMAC will be at a different stage in his career
September 17th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
Name a RB in the NFL that can run thru 8 man fronts?
September 17th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
NO….The real issue is not the O-line or The D-line nor our sorry offense or our corners and deffinately not our running back. Its a GM came in and wrecked somthing that was working. You build your team to there strengths come on… fuk yu R.M. and your lap dogs too.
September 17th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 1:03 pm
So now you stooges latest argument is that Mcfadden sucks???
Forget that he was one of the top 100 players in the league last season.
Where was Knapp ranked on the list of top Coaches?
You guys are sadder than I realized.
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Through two games, he’s come up very small.
I’m not saying he sucks. Not saying that at all. What I AM saying is he’s obviously not an elite back, but rather a system back. This may not be the right system for him.
September 17th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
Thec Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
Name a RB in the NFL that can run thru 8 man fronts?
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Also factor in the Oline is getting zero Push, or getting pushed into the backfield.
September 17th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
What was Reggie Mac pedigree? being in GB? who did he picks over there?…
Mat Millen was the same, being a TV anouncer, he looked someone with knolewdge, and ex NFL lb, but it aint always like that…
Regie Mac = Matt Millen
September 17th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
Knapp is a decent QB coach. He proved that in Houston. He just shouldn’t be trusted to call plays. Our offense looks a lot like the Jamarcus Russell offense…
Knapp should be Pryor’s mentor, and nothing more.
Saunders should call plays.
September 17th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
If the Raiders really do want a empty stadium so they can move to La La, then trading DMC is what they will do, he is the star of this team and one of the only bright spots that brings in fans to give us hope. He hasn’t ran the ball well, but that was expected in the ZBS, he caught 13 passes in the opener and was the only player on the damn field that could do schit even with being hand cuffed by schitty Oline play a scheme. These players on the Oline are not well prepared, that falls on coaching, we know they can thrive in a power scheme, its on tape from last year.
September 17th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
Sorry if this bruises the tender egos of those players who feel like they have failed their coaches. But some guys need to be on notice anyway for their jobs. Next year, I expect as much or more turnover to the roster as this year. If all their work they put in…hard work produces a payoff of complete second half meltdowns, it’s time to question just how hard they are working. At some point, maybe when the team is 1-7 at the halfway point, they will all be playing for a paycheck anyway. I’ll not feel sorry for their bruised egos then.
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But if you’re advocating a solution that helps the Raiders in the short-term, that isn’t one.
I have no problem with cutting ties with many players or coaches on this roster after the season if the performances don’t improve.
At this point? Throwing an entire offseason of work away doesn’t do anything but effectively end the Raiders’ season. It’s also bad for the evaluation process because you can’t get an accurate read on players who are learning new plays from a new playcaller on the job while most teams are in mid-season form.
September 17th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
1429.JT Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
And all this talk of, ‘it will take time’ and ‘al davis left a mess’, is just pure rethoric BS.
In this current NFL, its a win now league, and teams do it… excet Da Raiderssss
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I agree. All we ever get is just bullschytt and excuses. I’m a fan so I don’t have to adhere to some professional fan code in regard to how I enjoy or not enjoy the games.
Meatball fan? Fine. Bite me. It’s not my job to comport myself in a sound reasonable manner. I have a job already where I have to behave like that.
In my mind we’ve all been patient enough with this b.s.
MAYBE we’ll be good in what? 3-5 yrs. some are saying? But…there is no guarantee we’ll even be any better by then or not.
You think we could’ve used Plaxico in the red zone this week? Reggie seems to think we don’t need him..or ANYBODY else. We’re just fine.
September 17th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
Tampa Bay looked pretty awsome against the Champs yesterday with rookie Coach from Syracuse
September 17th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
1463.RaiderDuck Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 1:03 pm
So now you stooges latest argument is that Mcfadden sucks???
Forget that he was one of the top 100 players in the league last season.
Where was Knapp ranked on the list of top Coaches?
You guys are sadder than I realized.
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Through two games, he’s come up very small.
I’m not saying he sucks. Not saying that at all. What I AM saying is he’s obviously not an elite back, but rather a system back. This may not be the right system for him.
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DMac is an elite back. Get over it. Its just that Knapp is not an elite human being, much less a coach.
September 17th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
Through two games, he’s come up very small.
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through 2 games teams have done exactly what I predicted…Stack the box with 8 man fronts…
DMAC has nada holes to run through.
5 on 8, or even 6 on 8 Raids lose every time.
September 17th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
Look it took him atleAst 3 weeks to get in synch with system last year and then there were no reason for us to lose some games like that Detroit 1..He did well in SD game in which our D played with no heart and didn’t make them punt even once in the gAme..those are 2 losses that should have wins and that with Decling play of OL and declining play of Michael bush as the season went on …for this year.. Do you honestly think Palmer is getting Any time in the pocket or is getting help from McFadden ? and those 3rd downs were not like 3rd and 2 or 3 yards to go …they were like 3rd and 9 or 10 yards to go ..and imagine trying to get a first down with those situations behind our PassBlocking… But I do blame him for some plays ..he could have done better but also Knapp didn’t do him a favor by calling better plays ..I saw like 6 or 7 times they ran on 2nd and 10 and gained no more than 2 yards … But overall he has not been that bad..he has been getting ball out of his hands pretty quick with pressure coming at his face
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i have lost count of the excuses in this post, im sure you will continue making them no matter what happens.
Why is it always someone elses fault that plamer didnt lead to wins? In fact he led a come from ahead flop job yesterday. he has been awful on 3rd down, meaning we are not scoring and lechlers leg will fall off from over use.
last year the excuse was the defense, but some how we manged to be 6-2 with the same awful defense earlier that season.
The it was he didnt have an off season and learning an offense. Well he had the entire offense with the playbook this year.
Then it was he didnt play with dmac and dmoore was nicked. dont look now but the offense has been putrid with them both in the line up.
Damn bra, if palmer pissed his pants it would be his pants fault for not getting out of the way.
September 17th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
JT Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
DMac is an elite back. Get over it. Its just that Knapp is not an elite human being, much less a coach.
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An elite back averages more than two yards/carry, even with a substandard line.
September 17th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
An elite back averages more than two yards/carry, even with a substandard line.
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Is Chris Johnson with the titans elite?
September 17th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
Thec Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
Name a RB in the NFL that can run thru 8 man fronts?
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Really? You don’t think DMC ever ran through, around and by 8 man fronts on the regular the last 2 years? He always faced 8 man fronts, he had B Grad and Soup as his QB and for the most part unknown WRs. This is not new for him, what is new is the Damn ZBS and these damn Oline not understanding the scheme.
September 17th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
JT Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
Regie Mac = Matt Millen
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And you’re basing this on…TWO regular season games???
Reggie will run this team for years. Get over it.
September 17th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
Josh Dubow@JoshDubowAP
1 of every 15 runs for McFadden under HueJax went for 20+ yards. One of every 49 his other three seasons
September 17th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
Thec Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
An elite back averages more than two yards/carry, even with a substandard line.
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Is Chris Johnson with the titans elite?
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Not this year, he ain’t.
September 17th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
DMAC has no where to run. It has nothing to do with if he is “elite” or not.
September 17th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
1474.RaiderDuck Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
JT Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
DMac is an elite back. Get over it. Its just that Knapp is not an elite human being, much less a coach.
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An elite back averages more than two yards/carry, even with a substandard line.
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Really? Did you not see elite backs get shut out like LT when elite coaches left, like Shotenheimer in SD?…
…its the coaching. simp,e as that.
Al Davis said it. And he was right.
September 17th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
Not this year, he ain’t.
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Why not? Is it him, or his oline?
September 17th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
How can you even begin to try and judge a GM’s tenure on 2 games? He has 1 draft to his name, with the first pick being 97th overall… he had ZERO cap to work with and had to cut a lot of players (40% roster turnover from last year). He inherited a paper tiger that folded under pressure the last 2 years, and he gets 2 GAMES to turn it around? Seriously, you guys say the dumbest sh1t sometimes.
September 17th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
YA,
Judging by our 0-2 record, against teams we could’ve/shouuld’ve beat, and with the schedule getting as brutal as it can be, the season is already effectively over.
I accept that as a truth. I don’t like it, but “it is what it is” as they say.
I would just like something…ANYTHING resembling some good news about ANYTHING.
Too much to ask for apparently and we have to suffer through yet another hapless season complete with all the jokes, 32nd ranked “power ranking”, half filled O.CO and everything that goes with being one of..if not THE worst teams in the league.
That’s ok…MAYBE in 3-5 yrs. we’ll turn this thing around.
September 17th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
Reggie has done a poor job IMO, he can redeem himself alittle if he kept saunders around bc he knew knapp was a loser. We cant change everything by getting rid of Knapp, but maybe saunders can add 4 or 5 power running plays and get Dmac focused on breaking through the secondary not looking for the first hole. DMAC isnt a ZBS running back imo and works better where he knows the hole will be, runs through it at 100% speed and then trys to make a guy miss. I knew things werent good when Wiz left
September 17th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
If the defense is packing 8 and 9 in the box…DHB should be killing it outside.
DMoore was gettign open but CArson kept missing him eihter throwing behind or over his head.
THere is no excuse for this team to not be ripping the opponent trying to contain DMAC.
Total lack of execution and imagination
September 17th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
When I heard the new Raid HC was the mule defensive coordinator, I was already skeptical.
When I heard he hired Gregry (no ‘o’) Knapp as OC, I really started to worry.
2 weeks into the season, my skepticism and worries haven’t been dispelled. On the contrary, they’ve been heightened.
Now I’m just wondering if Tits Allen will survive the 4 wins or less season that appears likely.
Have a feeling he will. Wouldn’t surprise me if the Raids go 2-14 and Tits and Krapp are both back in 2013.
New Era of Excellence !
September 17th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
TIME TO RECTIFY, BEEEECH DAWG STYLE
Brahs, the BAD NEWS is the Raiders are as wack as the Shell years
The GOOD NEWS is my new fragrance, CERTIFIED PLATINUM by BEEECH DAWG can fix everything
Everyone BLOG TOGETHER and spritz a healthy dose of CP on your nads, abs and dode for the next game
If every Blog Dork, Dweeb and Goober is fully “Certified” we’re guaranteed to only lose by 14
But we’re also guaranteed to score with wasted strippers or the fantastic MiLF of your dreams.
Call that a comeback, whut
GETTIN’ STRAIGHT FIZZLE WITH IT
September 17th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
JT Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
Really? Did you not see elite backs get shut out like LT when elite coaches left, like Shotenheimer in SD?…
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LT’s worst year (2009), he still averaged 3.3 YPC. DMAC’s way below that.
September 17th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
JT Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
What was Reggie Mac pedigree? being in GB? who did he picks over there?…
Mat Millen was the same, being a TV anouncer, he looked someone with knolewdge, and ex NFL lb, but it aint always like that…
Regie Mac = Matt Millen
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Seriously?
McKenzie worked in the front office in Green Bay under Ron Wolf and then Ted Thompson for the better part of two decades. Millen had no such front office experience.
You act as though Reggie signed all these new players to long-term deals. Outside of Brisiel, the players McKenzie brought in are on one-year “prove it” contracts.
September 17th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
1477.RaiderDuck Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
JT Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
Regie Mac = Matt Millen
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And you’re basing this on…TWO regular season games???
Reggie will run this team for years. Get over it.
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Im basing it on his questionable hires, Allen… Knapp. His purgin of the scouting dept. His players drafted… Bilukdi/Crawford? Really?… Im basing it on what players did HE pick in GB as a perssonel guy?
September 17th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
Bcz24 Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
How can you even begin to try and judge a GM’s tenure on 2 games? He has 1 draft to his name, with the first pick being 97th overall… he had ZERO cap to work with and had to cut a lot of players (40% roster turnover from last year). He inherited a paper tiger that folded under pressure the last 2 years, and he gets 2 GAMES to turn it around? Seriously, you guys say the dumbest sh1t sometimes.
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Seconded.
September 17th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
Thec Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
Name a RB in the NFL that can run thru 8 man fronts?
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Easy, Reggie Bush, just yesterday
September 17th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
Have a feeling he will. Wouldn’t surprise me if the Raids go 2-14 and Tits and Krapp are both back in 2013
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To save his own soul, he would exorcise Knapp.
September 17th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
JT Says:
September 17th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
DMac is an elite back. Get over it. Its just that Knapp is not an elite human being, much less a coach.
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An elite back averages more than two yards/carry, even with a substandard line.
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An elite back can carry a team like an elite Q. Like Barry Sanders or Walter Payton or Frank Gore or Adrian Peterson. 2.1 yards per rush means 3 and out, 3 and out.
September 17th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
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